The Joe Rogan Experience - #632 - Les Stroud

Episode Date: April 3, 2015

Les Stroud is a Canadian musician, filmmaker, and survival expert best known as the creator, writer, producer, director, cameraman and host of the television series Survivorman. New episodes of Surivo...rman begin airing on The Science Channel in April.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're live? Jesus Christ man, I'm tweeting. You stream dot TV forward slash J O E R O G A N. Boom. Tweet. Fresh from making Bigfoot his bitch. Ladies and gentlemen, Les Stroud. What's up buddy? Hey Joseph. Fun seeing you tonight man. What the hell are you doing? I know. I'm like, you just got off stage at the Comedy Store. Yeah. Which I couldn't believe you were there and I was here.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I was like, ah, ah. Perfect. So I was like, yeah. David Spade, Amy Shuler. It's like a stellar lot. And then you totally brought your engineers. I was like, what? Were these guys sleeping?
Starting point is 00:00:40 No, Brian was at the store, too. Brian was at the store. And Jamie, I told him today that you were going to come by. I alerted him this afternoon that we had worked out accommodations and here we are. You got energy, man. Dude! Well, you're flying tomorrow morning, too, right?
Starting point is 00:00:56 I do what I like to do. If you do what you like to do, you got energy. I know, and both my cameraman and my film producer, they're completely my bitches now because they're not here. And they're like the biggest fan of you. And I'm like, so you're going, what, to bed? And they're going to bed now.
Starting point is 00:01:11 They're going to bed at the Sheridan. It's like, okay, well, you're pussies. I'm going to go hang with y'all. Sleep is for the weak sometimes. Sometimes it's good. It's a good idea to get sleep. It's a renewable resource. That's what you got to recognize.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And if you have an opportunity to do some shit that you probably couldn't do except if you Stayed awake you got to stay awake If you don't stay away, you're not willing to suffer You can't suffer a little if you can't pull an all-nighter you don't get all-nighter memories. That's right That's right. I got some all-nighter memories from when I was in high school van sleeping sleeping man when you Know I'm sleeping. I know I'm getting getting freaking older, and I'm still like, okay, I want to sleep less. Actually, you do sleep less when you get older. The testosterone's not flowing as much, and you can't do that, like, sleep until noon shit anymore.
Starting point is 00:01:53 You can't do that as you get older. Which, in the end, is a cool thing, because you can hang out longer. You're just older. You can, but you can also get up at 8 o'clock in the morning, jerk off, and go right back to sleep. That works, too. That does work. You can sleep. You just got to fucking make sure you schedule it.
Starting point is 00:02:11 You got to wake up. As long as you wake up hard, then you know you're still alive. Not necessarily. It might mean you just have to pee. Pee boners are the best, though. That's the best fuck boner. The pee on. They're useless.
Starting point is 00:02:23 You barely feel them. Whose dick is this? You can't really use them, actually, either, can you? You can, but you That's the best fuck boner. The peon. They're useless. They're like, you barely feel them. Like, who is, whose dick is this? Yeah, you can't really use them, actually, either, can you? You can, but you can't use them the same way. I know, it's not the same, though. The cum doesn't want to come through the piece. It usually lasts longer, I guess. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It's a very eloquent way of expressing it. It's a technique. This, this, fuck, we started at the bottom on this interview. We're drinking. We just got back from the comedy store. It's one o'clock in the, it's almost one, 1230 in the morning. We're drinking. We just got back from the comedy store. It's one o'clock in the morning. It's almost one. Twelve thirty in the morning. It's late. Last time I was with you, it was like ten a.m.
Starting point is 00:02:50 but it was all dark inside and we had a beer. Was it only ten a.m.? It was like ten a.m. in the morning. But this is way more realistic. This is better. Well, I like doing them different times. I think it's good to do them during the day sometimes but it's also good to do it at
Starting point is 00:03:05 night sometimes. Especially, like, we've never done it, like, live, like, leaving the comedy store and coming here. But that's, it's a move to do. I mean, why not? It's a first. We own this joint. We can just come in anytime we want.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Why not? It's like cutting an album, man. Fuck yeah! Neil Young used to only do everything after midnight. Of course he did! He probably did it naked, too. Probably, you know, back then before TMZ, probably everybody was on acid. Just record it.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Stuff that sucks, throw it away. I just don't want to picture Neil Young naked at this moment. Why not? Just open up. They usually have strippers, though, at these recording studios late at night. Yeah, it's not just all dudes. Why are they not? So where are they now?
Starting point is 00:03:42 You don't want to. Fuck up the dynamic. Good set tonight. Thanks are they not it was aware they now you don't want to fuck up the dynamic Good set tonight. That was that was awesome I was telling I was telling Joe I was I was texting at one point because I was listening I was listening on Comedy Central because I'm just addicted to stand-up comedy So tonight for me was awesomeness was just going and seeing like all those all those great comedians And I texted him and I realized you know how like some comedians have like a shtick right like the most obvious was like jeff foxworthy with his you might be a redneck stuff and
Starting point is 00:04:09 and all that and with joe you were nailing into this stuff and i and i was listening i thought he's got a riff thing that he does there on analogies i was calling and i started calling the rogue analogy because it's like you just like it like, well, you know when you get up in the morning, and it's like an elephant giving you a blowjob through a straw. And you're sitting there going, actually, that is kind of like an elephant giving you a blowjob through a straw. I did not have a joke about an elephant giving you a blowjob through a straw. This is bad paraphrasing, ladies and gentlemen, from a drunk man. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:04:41 How dare you? But you got the analogy down. You do that. I'm not doing like the Joan Rivers post-smoke-up-your-assing. It's like, shit, you got that down. And you, I mean, because I'm a stand-up comedian, just, I love it because I suck at it. I could never do it. It scares the crap out of me.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I couldn't tell the joke to save myself. But listening to you do that and listening to you go into those analogies, it's like, I'm going, oh, shit, man. That's right. That is like that. And it is like an elephant. oh shit man that's right that is like that and it is like an elephant giving a blowjob to his truck i think pretty much anybody's ever made anybody laugh can do stand-up it's just a matter of do you want to do it if you wanted to do it
Starting point is 00:05:14 take a long fucking time but we all know guys who sucked at it in the beginning and but they were just such fans of comedy they just kept chipping away until eventually they figured it out and now they're like legit stand-ups. It happens. I figure you're 15 minutes out there. I just did 90 minute sets in LA and Vegas with my music, with my concert, right? And I did these concerts and it was great. We kicked ass.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I figure my 90 minutes is barely as tough as your 15 minutes in stand-up comedy. It's just different, man. If you put the kind of time that you've put to searching for Bigfoot and writing music into stand-up comedy, you would be really good at it.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, but I'm not going to try. Dude, how many more Bigfoot shows are you going to do before you catch this motherfucker? Who says I don't already have them, man? Because you already told me. You already told me. Come on, man. It's really, it's really, man, it's a bizarre thing to be part of all of that and what's going on. And how I ended up in this position is because there's so much bullshit in the field.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Like there's the nonsense that gets put out with, you know, you've got a show where you're trying to find Bigfoot. And you've got to crank out 13 episodes, so you need to invent these crazy stories and silly stories and stupid stories, and nothing much is going on. Nothing much. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Nothing. And I come along, and I'm like, okay, Len, you know what? I'll just talk to these dudes who are into Bigfoot, and you say he's there, you got him in a field, you're doing it, okay, take me there. And I'll tell you what, leave me there in the field overnight. Let's just see what the hell happens. And so I approach it. I did six shows this year.
Starting point is 00:06:51 First one premiered last night. We were talking about this before the show aired, but I bear as repeating, you might have invented the selfie. Yeah, I know. You might have. I was on the vanguard of... It's very borderline because you did a lot of shows where it was just you alone in the woods with a camera pointed at yourself. And you had the lens, you know, like if you look at those little video cameras that Les used,
Starting point is 00:07:16 you know, they have that viewer that you could look at you, or you could turn the camera towards you and flip the viewer around, and you could see what you're filming when you're filming yourself, which is like a selfie. So you might have been. It was a video selfie. Nobody was doing it. You were the first guy. You were the first selfie guy. The thing I did what nobody else was doing was I put it on television, international broadcast TV.
Starting point is 00:07:36 That's the whole thing. It's one thing to do it. It's another thing to base a whole freaking show on it. Way worse than that. You did it by yourself in the fucking woods. You did it in Africa. You did it by yourself in the fucking woods. You did it in Africa. You did it in the jungle. You did it in the swamps. You did it in the desert.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Just you. Not like that fucking English guy sleeping in hotel. We don't even say his name on this show. That English fuck sleeping pretending to fall down ice slides. Johnny Appleseed. That guy slides. Johnny Appleseed. That guy, that Johnny Appleseed fuck.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Oh, man, I could go so far in that story. Don't even bother. You're right. Because it gives credibility to shit. I heard that that guy only exists because you weren't willing to fake shit. That's right. You weren't willing to fake shit. The producers wanted to fake shit.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And they said, okay, we'll get Johnny Appleseed to fake some shit. With an English accent. Here I am swinging from vine to vine Looking for snakes. I will eat them bitch. You ain't any snakes You're gonna eat filet mignon at the four seasons you fuck. There's a van waiting to pick you up It's air-conditioned you got off all over you you're sleeping in fine linen Fine linen you fuck he was very pretty, though. He was very pretty. He's still very pretty. You're beautiful, too, man.
Starting point is 00:08:47 You've got character. You've got a different kind of pretty going on. Yeah, it was messed up. I got asked over a long time. And like I said, I never put it down on the networks. I'm still good with the networks, and networks are great. Networks can suck my dick. How about that?
Starting point is 00:09:02 All of them. It comes down to one person. It's always one person though right it's one it's one ass that's just like oh now we need you to crank out a bunch of these i actually got asked i actually got one producer asked when they said no one will ever know oh and i went yeah they will yeah they and i'll know and that's i said no no no and along comes the bullshit after yeah well it's not their fault it's like that's what said no no no and along comes The bullshit after yeah, well, it's not their fault It's like that's what they do on every other show what they do is these artificial scenarios even with its pawn
Starting point is 00:09:33 Wars or fucking storage wars or oh we got to get this car finished by Friday man No, you don't you don't you don't to get this car you do whatever the fuck you want to do You don't. You don't have to get this car. You can do whatever the fuck you want to do. I thought, I remember the last podcast. I remember you said you loved reality TV. You thought, and I said, I hate reality TV.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And I thought, that's not John. Did I say that? You did, man. I did, man. Yeah. That's totally you. Have you two sure? I didn't say that. You did.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I love road rules. He's mocking you. He's mocking me because he knows me better than you. Have you two sure? I didn't say that. You did. He's mocking you. He's mocking me because he knows me better than you. I don't love reality shows. I like some shows. Like Life Below Zero, that's a dope show. That's a legit show. That show they don't fuck around with.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I was liking that Alaska Last Frontier show until I saw this fucking bear eating a filleted salmon. I'm like, oh, you're baiting the bears, you assholes. All that stuff's set up. I mean, a lot of them. Life Below Zero's not set up.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I know that for a fact. That's not. I don't know the show. I had this woman, Sue Akins, on the show who lives up there 200 miles above
Starting point is 00:10:39 the Arctic Circle. That bitch is gangster as fuck. She lives up there by herself. She got attacked by a bear. She got fucked up and broke her hip, bit into her skull, fucked her up, broke her leg. She went back and
Starting point is 00:10:52 shot that bear and ate it. That bitch doesn't give a fuck. She's 51 years old. She's a grandmother. She smokes cigarettes every day. She drinks whiskey and she lives by herself in a tent because you can't have permanent structures like that lady's 100 legit okay there's that show's legit there's a few of those shows where
Starting point is 00:11:11 those people live in such bizarre lives you don't have to set up some oh we need to get water we gotta figure out how to make this pump work again like that's all stage shit they'll pretend something's broken so they have to fix it so they have some solution to some drama that comes up. But if you live in a harsh enough environment, you don't have to invent the drama. And that's what you did. What you did, you were the first motherfucker who went out there. You really were starving. You would see you on day one, and then you would see you five days later.
Starting point is 00:11:39 You looked like shit. Like, you couldn't fake that. You were dehydrated. You were shrinking. You would talk about it. You couldn't sleep. You had bugs crawling't fake that. You were dehydrated. You were shrinking. You would talk about it. You couldn't sleep. You had bugs crawling all over you, rats running across your fucking sleeping quarters. Dude, you really did it.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And you did it by yourself. It's so much different than what these fucking people are doing. What these people are doing is they're baby fucking us. They're feeding us a spoonful of shit. To me, they're making a mockery of something. Tommy Appleseed, that fucker! Before Survivorman, there was no survival genre. There wasn't.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And now, the plethora of shows. I just watched one where there was, let's just say, dual people surviving. What are you saying? What are you saying? That show, too? It was hard to watch. I like how that dude walks around barefoot. I know one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:12:31 No, that guy's long gone. He's gone. Was he the real guy? No, he wasn't legit either? How about if you're going to go barefoot, okay, how about this? No tools, you fuck. You won't even wear shoes? How dare you?
Starting point is 00:12:43 How dare you treat me like such fucking ignorance? You don't have shoes on? Well, what if you don't have shoes? What if you don't have matches, you fuck? How about you don't have a cell phone or a GPS? What if the director's not going to say cut and you go back to your hotel room after this? What if you're still out there? Like the one I was watching the other night that led into my show.
Starting point is 00:13:01 There was a story like, what will they do next? And you look and they're crawling out of the snow shelter in the morning looking like they just had a shower. And just pressed their clothing. It's like, you know what? I've been there. You don't look like that after a night in the freaking snow. You look like hell. And they're all nice and clean.
Starting point is 00:13:17 The beard's trimmed and everything's good. It's like The Walking Dead. That girl with the dark hair. She's hot as fuck. No matter what. She never has zits. I'd love to do a cameo on that show. She has like perfectly placed mud.
Starting point is 00:13:30 We have an in. We know Josh McDermott. He's the fake scientist. He's a good friend. I'm in. I'm in. Tell him. I'm caught up now.
Starting point is 00:13:37 That show is so great. Jesus Christ, that's good. I do everything through like my son. I just wait and he'll just pick a show and it's like The Walking Dead is one of those shows. We got this big screen at home. I sat down beside everything through like my son. I just wait and he'll just like pick a show and it's like I'm the walking dead It's one of those shows we got this big screen at home and I Set down beside him for like a moment. Oh, what are you watching and like three hours later? I've been watching walking down like oh shit. This is awesome Binge-walking ism shit that just didn't exist in our time. No never binge-watched a show you couldn't do it
Starting point is 00:14:01 This is a new phenomenon people getting bulging discs and shit in their back. They're sitting for 20 hours People go to the hospital if the fucking get massages People are jacked up man. Just from binge watching. No god bless science channel. They're putting Survivor Man marathons on well They'll be like eight hours of Survivor Man shows and I'll get postings from people's that they watched all of them I'm just like wow How did you go from doing Survivorman to Survivorman Bigfoot now you told a story on our show that I've repeated ad nauseum Because the fascinating story about your first experience with something that you couldn't explain you were in Alaska He flew in very remote location and you heard something that sounded like a primate. Some bipedal primate.
Starting point is 00:14:46 You know what? The bottom line was I thought, okay, who's the one person that can you could take and drop in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of a Bigfoot hotspot and leave them alone to see what happens? Well, Survivorman. It has to be you. It's gotta be me.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It's not me. So I said, fuck, let's do it. I'll do it. And then I'll go after the, like, because I know you hate one of the dudes that I went out with, Todd Standing. I don't hate him. I don't know him. But I know bullshit when I see bullshit. Right. Well, listen, for the folks at home.
Starting point is 00:15:16 So I'm calling the bullshit. Let me show an image. Let's show an image, Jamie. Pull up this image. This is a close-up of a Bigfoot, and I'm doing air quotes. A Bigfoot. You got this, Jamie? Pull that shit up.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Show the people. Right, right, right. This is a close-up. This dude just got a Bigfoot to stand still. He's the only guy in history. Got a Bigfoot. And he's got two other shots like that. So the question I ask you is, the cool part is...
Starting point is 00:15:44 Look how bad that looks. Look how perfectly trimmed hair. Now, why does it look totally different in that picture than the other picture? I get it. I see what you're doing. What is that? What? Okay, but let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Just for a second, look at it. Okay, now, what if... Oh, gee, don't you what if me, you fuck. What if we're full of shit and it's real? No, we're not, and that's not... You don't know that. Yeah, you know why because every animal that lives every fucking animal that lives looks like that animal no animals look like a person in a fucking animal costume when you see something that looks like a person in an animal costume it's a person in an
Starting point is 00:16:21 animal costume it's occam's razor or it's's a Bigfoot. Nope. It's 2015. That is some shitty fucking special effects. That is a dude in a monkey suit 100%. 100%. Or CGI. Or CGI. First of all, what animal that's hairy ever has its hair matted down like that? Like it's combed.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I was about to say the exact same thing, Joe. Stupid ass fucking costume. That thing's got Aquanet on it. Yeah. Its hair is sprayed in place. He's working on a fast food joint. Dude, that looks so stupid. The idea that that could possibly be Bigfoot, that's 100% a human being. You know why? Because it has human being dimensions to its face you look at a gorilla you look at a chimp you look at an orangutan they have a different facial structure a hundred percent different that's a human facial structure absolutely the ratio between the nose and the eyes and the lips and the mouth that's that's a hundred percent a human being that's a shitty ass fucking mask dr joseph I am a scientist. Okay, let me do this for you. Let me do this for you.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Okay. Don't you whatever me. Okay. Okay. So let's call it the scale of believability. Okay. Okay. That's a zero.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Zero. All right. So at this point, let's forget anybody who thinks they don't exist at all. Let's just jump over. Jamie, is that a zero? What is that? Is that a zero? Yeah. It's a zero. You were hesitant. You were hesitant thinks they don't exist at all. Let's just jump over zero. What is that? Is that a zero? It's a zero Zero is like
Starting point is 00:17:57 100% Bigfoot I give him a raise Come on Jimmy come on, you know, that's not Bigfoot You left right if you left out, you know, that's not Bigfoot. You, Les Stroud. But what if? You, Les Stroud, you know that's not Bigfoot. Okay, let me go back to what I was saying. Let's just, come on, be honest. If you had to bet your beautiful son over there,
Starting point is 00:18:14 if you had to bet his life, is whether or not that's Bigfoot or not. It's not Bigfoot. It's a goddamn monkey suit. That's not tough at all. That's a tough one. That's not even a little tough. He does not love you.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Why is Bigfoot standing still, staring at a fucking camera? Isn't the whole Bigfoot lore? Because I saw the shit leading up to this. I saw the other footage. Oh, you saw the footage leading up to this. Right, but you weren't there.
Starting point is 00:18:37 No, of course. This fucking guy you're hanging out with. No, I'm not hanging out with him. Believe me. You got rid of him? Let me hang out with so many of them now, and it's the whole shit. That's what I want to get at. Okay. Okay, so let's just pretend. Forget the people who don't think it exists at all.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Let's go to those who think that it does. This is the biggest problem. You get this scale of believability. On the left side of the scale, you've got Gigantopithecus. It's a big, upright walking ape. It's the missing link. Well, how about you've got Jane Goodall? On the left side of the scale, you've got Jane Goodall who believes it's real.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Right. Okay. Exactly. As an ape. As a species. Yes. Neanderthal, maybe slightly humanoid. You keep coming towards the center of the scale.
Starting point is 00:19:13 It's like, oh, it's really stealthy. It's got certain abilities. And you keep coming close to the middle of the scale. It's got tons of incredible intelligence and everything. Okay. Now you hit the middle of the scale. Okay. On the far right of the scale.
Starting point is 00:19:25 It's always the far right that fucks everything up. I know. The far right. It does.. Okay. On the far right of the scale. It's always the far right that fucks everything up. I know, the far right. It does! Because you know what the far right of the scale is? What? Aliens. That's an alien? Aliens.
Starting point is 00:19:33 So then you go to, and on the far right, it's like paranormal, cloakability, fifth dimensional, vibrational control, all sorts of shit like that. They can control cameras. So the crazy, yeah, they can control electronics. They can do infrasound and screw you up like a lion or a tiger. The craziest part is the argument is not between those who don't think it's real and those who do. It's within the scope of all the people who think it is real.
Starting point is 00:19:55 That argument is insane. Like the backstabbing and the fighting, it's like, no, and all the ape believers don't want any of the paranormal believers to say anything because they're all whacked and screwed up and we don't want them and all the paranormal believers don't want they're going to ape believers saying well you're all closed-minded you're not open to the fact that it does this and it does that and it's this big cesspool of argumentative shit going on wwf yeah so it's exactly like ww. It is a lot. It's E now. You know what that stands for?
Starting point is 00:20:27 WWF is like the 90s. WWF stands for like, what the fuck? What the fuck? So that's... And what I did, I dove right into that scale. Right. And landed myself on the land, out in the bush with all these different people. And you just tried to be as objective as possible.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah, what I said is, don't make me your poster boy. I don't want to be your poster boy for ape boy. I don't want to be your poster boy for ape believers. I don't want to be your poster boy for alien believers. Just put me out there and show me what you got. Let's back this up. For people who don't know, like, you're like, what? Bigfoot? Gigantopithecus? What the fuck is Gigantopithecus? Gigantopithecus is a real
Starting point is 00:20:58 animal that absolutely did exist. They only have a few bones, and they found it in an apothecary shop in China in the early 1900s. Some guy found some teeth that he knew were not any known primate. And then he said, where did you get these teeth?
Starting point is 00:21:14 The people that run the apothecary shop lead him to this area. They do a dig. They find some jaw bones that indicate that this animal was most likely a bipedal primate, although that's under some dispute. So what this means is there was something that was somehow or another related to other
Starting point is 00:21:31 primates. They think it might have been in the orangutan family, but this is a bipedal, enormous animal that absolutely existed at the very latest 100,000 years ago. It could have been earlier, but they know 100,000 years ago, that thing was alive. So 100,000 years ago, which there were 100% human beings at the time, there was a fucking 8 to 10 foot tall, gigantic, bipedal ape, which is Bigfoot. I mean, it's a real fucking animal. I can add one tidbit to that is the fact that if it doesn't, if it's extinct, it's the only primate from that era that is extinct.
Starting point is 00:22:13 All the rest are still alive. That's not totally true. Because that Flores man, that hobbit man on the island of Flores, that little thing is dead. And that thing lived closer to today. They have bones from that little fucker that was like 13,000 years ago. How do you know it's dead? That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I mean, they all ran pendek. And that's what everybody's saying is, how do you know they're extinct? How do you know they're so intelligent they're just hid in the vast forests of North America? Well, that's a legit question, because if you go out to the forest, you know what you don't find? Scientists. You don't fucking find scientists everywhere surveying every inch of the land it is quite possible like you know there's always these weird animals they find like that vampire deer that
Starting point is 00:22:55 lives in vietnam like what the fuck is this they have some fang deer like like they talked about it like villagers to talk about and they like yeah, you found a fanged deer Okay, good luck with that, but they really did find this goddamn thing see if you pull that up Jamie fanged deer I think of Vietnam this is like there's a mythical animal as a giant gigantic chip ends chimpanzee They found as well. Yeah, the bondo ape. That's a real animal as real, but it was no now It was logical until they found it the giant squid Mythological until they found it just stories and not the whole thing that happens with cryptozoology It was that's up with just a story It's a deer with fangs right what the fuck is that now if I'd said to you before they discovered it
Starting point is 00:23:37 You know that there's a deer with fans a vampire deer yeah, and you said not a chance man They didn't find one of them. No, there's a beautiful well, it's a very densely populated, or densely wooded area, but they know there's a family of them living there. It's not just one. They've observed more than one of these weird deer. And the chimps, the Bondo chimps, they have photographs of them. They have tissue samples. They have hair.
Starting point is 00:24:01 They have photographs of dead ones. They're huge. Yeah, they know for sure that's a real animal. And it's different. It has a crest on its forehead. They have skulls, a full intact skull of a recently dead animal. And there's a crest on its forehead like a gorilla, which chimps don't have. So it's really confusing.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Which takes it out of cryptozoology and into current scientific study. Yeah. That's a real animal. I mean, they have photos of it. They have videos of it. They have scientists that have gone down there and seen it. Carl Armand, he's a real animal. I mean, they have photos of it. They have videos of it. They have scientists that have gone down there and seen it. Carl Armand, he's a Swiss wildlife photographer. He started being obsessed with it, I believe, in 96.
Starting point is 00:24:32 He started going down there to the Congo. But it's in this really deep, deep, deep. The Congo is giant. It's like almost as wide as the entire United States. And it's just dense jungle. Like, good fucking luck finding what's in there. And that's what you got with Bigfoot.
Starting point is 00:24:49 It's the same difference. People aren't going. And then those who are saying they see them or whatever, they're doctors, they're lawyers, they're conservation officers, they're hunters, they're anglers, they're hikers. They're not all whack jobs. They're not all whack jobs. And you're the one guy when everyone goes, oh, you know, it's all bullshit.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I go, damn, I think Les knows some shit. You know, when you say that you heard something that sounded like a gorilla and it's in the woods, it's possible. Like, who the fuck sees a wolverine? Okay? Good luck finding a wolverine. You could wander around the woods your whole life and never see a wolverine. Never see a dead one. But they're out there.
Starting point is 00:25:27 We know they're out there. You take whatever that is and lessen its population by 90%. Now you have 10% of that population. And it's smart. And it's elusive. Exactly. 60,000 black bears in Ontario. I've never seen a black bear skeleton. Yeah. Oh, where's the bones?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Well, 60,000 black bears. Never see a black bear. You don't see's the bones you know well 60,000 black bears never see a black bear you don't see predator bones yeah bears don't eat a bear skeleton so now if you've got let's let's say there's 8,000 sasquatch in Ontario and they're secret and they're they're elusive and they're intelligent they're smart and they bury their bones it's not gonna I say it's not a difficult I don't say 8,000. If there's any of them, That's the thing. I think if there's any, there's like,
Starting point is 00:26:08 there's 8,000. You really think there's that? I don't think there's that. There has to be. I think there's one dude. That was one thing I pointed out on the show. I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:16 let's get past that. hair do. Look at you. It's one guy. You went through the trees. He's riding Loch Ness. That's bullshit though. Okay, that what we saw.
Starting point is 00:26:23 If there is a Bigfoot, that's not it. That's bullshit. No. It's 100% Ness. That's bullshit, though. Okay, that what we saw. If there is a Bigfoot, that's not it. That's bullshit. No. It's 100% bullshit. That guy's a liar. And it's unfortunate because people like that, these people that want to make shit up, they confuse the fuck out of everybody who wants to believe. I think it's also confusing that you're using the word Bigfoot when that's not really what it is.
Starting point is 00:26:41 It's more like finding another one of these big apes eight Yeah, you know and finding a gigantopithecus How do you know that because putting the what the original guy that made the Bigfoot name or whatever this big monster is didn't they? Already find out that it was fake through the whole thing. Well, no that guy didn't make the name No, that's the thing. That's the you're talking about the Patterson footage Which is no no Bigfoot came from way turning over the construction equipment and all the tracks that were found, and that there was a fake guy who came out and said... But when you look at what was done there,
Starting point is 00:27:11 the faker... See, there's a problem. When the fakers are faking, you know what I'm saying? Like, someone goes, oh, I did that hoax. That was all me. It's like, no, it wasn't, man. You were drunk in Wisconsin at the time. It had nothing to do with you. But guys come out and claim to do the... And now that really messes up the water because now you've got someone who's really
Starting point is 00:27:27 just trying to find out and the hoaxers are hoaxing themselves. And they didn't actually hoax it. And that's the stuff that's messed up. So the first thing that guy, people point back to that, I can't remember the guy's name, who had the tracks to show, here's his wooden tracks.
Starting point is 00:27:43 He says, I did those tracks in that time in the 50s. Actually, he didn't. And he couldn't have pulled off what they found. Like, you would have needed 20 men and major machines and a big conspiracy just to make a bunch of tracks going up into the bush. It's not realistic. That's what I'm about a lot is the whole thing is, well, it's a hoax. It's a hoax. It's a person.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It's a hoax. Hang on a second How many people are out in the woods? Dedicating their life to sticking a frickin track in the mud in the middle of nowhere in the Sierra Nevadas or the Rocky Mountains They're not doing it. Nobody's got time for that shit. You know better a better argument I think is that the Native Americans had over 200 different names for this thing, right? That's what's more interesting to me because they don't really have a lot of The better argument, I think, is that the Native Americans had over 200 different names for this thing. Right. That's what's more interesting to me because they don't really have a lot of mythological animals in the Native American lore. There's not a lot of fake animals.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I mean, there's a few things that they believe in. They had some weird gods that they worshipped and, you know, they believed they could dance and make it rain. Thunderbirds. Yeah. But, you know, the Thunderbirds thing is a weird one, too, man, because we know that there were certain species of bird that were enormous that went extinct. We also know there's a thing called the Terror Bird that lived before the last ice age went away. I believe they got them down to like 10,000 plus years ago. So it was like you're talking about the Pleistocene, right?
Starting point is 00:29:04 You're talking about when the saber-toothed tigers existed. Giant sloth. Yeah, woolly mammoths. Well, they had this fucking bird, this giant seven-foot-tall bird that was, like, predatory, that would run around. And there's one of them called the Shoebill that lives in the Congo that they think was, like, have you ever seen that thing? No, not the Shoebill.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Oh, Christ, you've got to see this fucking thing. This is a, what a creepy-ass bird. It's called a shoe bill. It's a five-foot-tall prehistoric bird with a giant face, like a fucking hatchet in its face. It's got this giant, like, huge bill, and it's like, it catches fish. There's this crazy
Starting point is 00:29:40 BBC documentary they did in the Congo. Look at that goddamn thing. There's better ones of it, though. Oh, that's like a dick. there's better ones of it though dick there's better ones of it there's a pull up I'm pretty sure it's shoe bill shoe bill bird Africa there is it there below that that one right there below it yeah that one no no all the way yeah I see the great one middle the way it was jacking that bird yeah that one that you were just clicking on that fucking thing. Look at that thing. Make that bigger, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Look at that goddamn creepy-ass animal. That's a duck. Yeah, it's killing a duck. You hate ducks. Now, go back, and there's another one in that series of images. Right below that, where you see that thing face-on. Look at that, where it's looking at you head-on, where you see its bill. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:30:21 What a creepy fuck that is. That's a real bird. What a creepy fuck that is. That's a real bird. What a creepy goddamn dinosaur. That thing's five feet tall and it walks around like a fucking, like a fake animal. It's like Dark Crystal. And it jacks things in the water.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It's a horrible looking monster. You already tapped into something you're really super right about. The whole Native American perspective on Bigfoot and all that. If you go up into Winnipeg, and I was up there with them up there, they've got their seven teachings and stuff, and they're
Starting point is 00:30:49 based on the raven and the wolf and the fox and the bear. And right in the middle is Sabe, Bigfoot, and then the eagle and the otter. It's just like, it's not like, oh yeah, and there's a thunderbird, there's a mythological this, no, no. it's just seven normal animals.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And in that span of seven normal animals, right in the middle is Bigfoot, what they consider to be a normal species that's there. They don't make the difference, they don't differentiate. Right now there's someone on the subway going, fuck you, Joe Rogan, I'm shutting this podcast off. Listen to me, man. We're not saying that Bigfoot's real. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that goddamn animal was definitely real. We don't know if it's real.
Starting point is 00:31:31 What are you saying? But we know that goddamn animal, that Gigantopithecus was real, and here's where it's crazy. It was real in the exact area we absolutely know the human beings migrated from. They migrated from Asia across the Bering Strait when it was a landmass where you can cross it walking. They came to North America. And where an animal like that would exist would be in the heavily dense forest of the Pacific Northwest, which is exactly where they would come across.
Starting point is 00:32:01 They would come across through Alaska to the Pacific Northwest. And that's where you hear come across. They would come across through Alaska, to the Pacific Northwest, and that's where you hear about them. It doesn't make sense that you would have a real animal that lived in a real place that you absolutely know existed, coexisted with human beings that were just like you and I. We have been in this form, essentially, the scientists believe, for 250,000 plus years. So 100,000 years ago, they know this thing lived, and they know it lived where people were walking around, and they were walking all the way to America. So the question is, are they still there? That's the question. One other thing, another question I'd like to ask, what do you do with someone who you respect, you admire, they're normal, they're sane. And then they say to you, look, man, I don't care what you think.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I'm just telling you what I saw. And I know what I saw. And that happens a thousand freaking times. People do drugs. People have episodes. People have delusional mass delusion. They have like psychotic episodes. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah. Or not. Or not. Or they want you to love them, so they just want to talk about Bigfoot. You go, really, man?
Starting point is 00:33:08 We gotta go over Mike's house and tell us about Bigfoot. These are people with nothing to gain, lots to lose, no money to make. In fact,
Starting point is 00:33:15 half the time you can't even drag the story out of them. Like, okay, fine. Please. That's like girls who don't pretend they don't want to fuck.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I have a couple crazy ex-girlfriends that will tell you some stories. I've never actually done this before. You don't want to fuck. I have a couple of crazy ex-girlfriends that will tell you some stories. I've never actually done this before. I can't believe I'm doing this. How do you know how to do that with my ass? They know things.
Starting point is 00:33:34 They've been there. They're liars. This guy's a Bigfoot liar. I told you, he's king of the analogy. Listen, man, I think it's entirely possible that there is an undiscovered primate. You're fascinated by this. You were supposed to come out with me, though. Yeah, not pussied out. I just wanted to see, give you some time on your own, see if you found it. And then if you didn't, I confirm my suspicions.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Here's the problem, man. These guys that go looking for it, they're almost all full of shit. And a lot of them are nice guys but they're true believers they're true believers in a sense where they're not looking at things rationally they're not looking
Starting point is 00:34:12 at things objectively right and so that's what I do with Survivorman Bigfoot I almost called him Survivorman bullshit you almost did
Starting point is 00:34:20 that's Freud that's the Guinness talking Guinness will pull it out of your lad he'll pull will pull it out of your lad. It'll pull the truth right out of your bones. So that's what I'm doing with Survivorman Bigfoot. Bigfoot. As I'm saying, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Alright. Okay. You've got Bigfoot and some alien spaceships. Leave me in that valley overnight, couple nights, let's see what happens. You've got Gigantopithecus and a herd of 12 of them. Okay, leave me in the valley Let me know. Let's cut to the short and curlies What what have you seen? What is the craziest shit that you've seen?
Starting point is 00:34:55 What is the one thing you've seen that you think you could bring up? You get it you're gonna have to watch the episode fuck out of here, dude I'm not gonna all right. So on on one of the not gonna. Alright, so on one of the episodes. Alright, so here. Alright, on one of the episodes. I'm gonna have to light a joint. I can't believe you said that. Alright, I'm gonna tell you. So you don't have to watch the episode. Okay, so spoiler alert on the episode. You watch the episode where I'm gonna go up to the top of the
Starting point is 00:35:16 mountain and radio. And that night. Everybody, here's a spoiler alert. Finding Bigfoot ain't finding shit. There's a spoiler alert. If I had for you the definitive footage, here it is. Obviously, by now, I would have done a press conference. Exactly. That's why that footage is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Right. Here, eat that. Take a hit of that. It'll tell you the truth. It'll talk to you. When you're surviving, couldn't you just wrap up food in plastic and then eat it and then poop it out and eat it later? Like, untick the plastic off and eat it. What?
Starting point is 00:35:48 What? Jesus Christ. It seems like it could work. That's a technique I've never thought of. I mean, if you're going to be, like, on your own for five days, you could eat a bunch of food but wrap it up in plastic and then later poop it out and then untake it out. But then how would you get the nutrients from the food in the first place? Wait a minute. What is this poop it out?
Starting point is 00:36:03 I don't understand. You eat it and then you poop it out. Meaning like before you leave for your trip, go get stuffed like you lost a market or something. Don't ruin this conversation. Don't ruin this where you're pulling thought out ideas. And then eat a bunch of plastic. Don't tell him. Stop.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Can't tell a guy to eat his poop. No, no, no. I'm not saying he poop. I'm saying like eat like a big meal before you're about to leave. Johnny Appleseed would eat his own poop. Yeah, it's called Second Harvest. That's what Native Americans call it. Then maybe take a bunch of protein bars, wrap them up in plastic, eat it, and then poop it out in a couple days.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Then unwrap the plastic, then eat it. What kind of shit are you taking? You really think a fucking whole protein bar in plastic can make it through your digestive tract? You're going to die. Why would I just carry the bars in my backpack and just eat them three days later? That is the poorest understanding of the human digestive tract
Starting point is 00:36:51 ever exhibited on a podcast. I was trying to figure out what you were saying. I thought you were saying eating poop. You're not talking about a little baggie of heroin that a drug mule swallows. Right, that's what I was thinking. That's not going to make you survive. You'll get another hour's worth of energy
Starting point is 00:37:03 from that little heroin bag. What about petite fillets? Eight ounces plastic you're gonna die people get diverticulitis cuz they get a fucking water That's a big freaking word diverticulitis. I guess mayonnaise. That's like a sign. No I said word but well Brock Lesnar went from the UFC got but divertic Had a serious operation when they removed 12 inches of his colon. I found out about it. I looked into it. And I thought it was just because of eating meat.
Starting point is 00:37:31 But Anthony Bourdain informed me that you could eat a seed. Like you get like a sunflower seed or something stuck inside your tract, your digestive tract. And it starts an abscess and you get sick. Yeah, you can die from a fucking seed getting stuck. He's like, all kinds of stuff gets stuck in there. So it's not necessarily just protein. There's also contributed genetic factors. Anthony Bourdain is like a GI tract doctor now.
Starting point is 00:37:54 You can't eat a petite filet mignon and shit it out in the woods, son. That's all I'm saying. You got to have to have a better strategy than that. That's the worst way to cheat ever. I guess I was thinking Survivor Island, like trying to find a way to cheat. You can't. You can't cheat. Just carry it in your backpack.
Starting point is 00:38:08 You look like you're pregnant if you had enough food for a day. All this food packed up in your body. What kind of calorie consumption are you thinking you're going to have? You know, are you going to go on a diet? That's one thing you could do. You can get fat as fuck
Starting point is 00:38:21 and then go out there and just live off your fat for a few days. That would actually work. would do it it's I never ever on all the Survivor Man shows I never ever prepared for the show by either trying to trim down and making my stomach smaller or by bulking up and having all the extra I was figure well then that's not even realistic either whenever I start something it's got to be like I just you know was going somewhere else and got lost you too honest for television we can't use you
Starting point is 00:38:43 anymore I know that's We can't use you anymore. I know. We can't use you here at the super pseudo-science channel. You have no idea what you just said. I mean, that is one of my... I've been told before, no, Les, that's a bit too earnest. I'm like, oh, God, you killed me. Okay, now let's get back to the short and curlies. What have you seen? What have you seen?
Starting point is 00:38:59 So on the top of the mountain in Radium... Radium? Where's that? Radium Springs, British Columbia. First time in my life ever. That's a big area right big highlight high side it's a small area but bigger for the sightings yeah first time ever first of all i've never i've never claimed this i saw big freaking lights in the sky i couldn't explain i'm like looking going what the and i'm there they are just the whole classic ufo thing i was like what the i And I'm, there they are. Just the whole classic UFO thing.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I was like, what the? I've never seen anything like that. I don't claim anything like that. This is while you were filming the show. So this is while I'm on the top of the mountain while I'm filming the show. I'm looking at the big, these big ass lights, way bigger. If it was a plane, it was bigger than the Concorde. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And they just hovered there. And they're gone like that. Just gone. Then that same night That's mother shit happened I woke up and I swear I was in my mummy sleeping bag and I swear something was sitting on top of me and I couldn't move I tried to move and wasn't like you know you wake up in a half half dream arm You were sleeping on it's like all frozen in like ah shit a wolf's eating my arm
Starting point is 00:39:58 No, this is like the arm on top who the fuck has James got wolves eating their arms Don't you sleep in the woods alone too much, man. That's what you dream about. I never dreamed about getting eaten by a wolf. No, I'd say you gotta come on and do one of these shows with me. You'll dream about wolves eating your arms. Damn. Hopefully, no. I don't want that dream. It's not a good dream, man.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Yeah, the problem is that actually can happen if things go horribly wrong. A wolf can eat your arm. Have you ever been surrounded by wolves while you're out there? I have. Yes, I have. Yeah? Yep. I've had them. I can see them.
Starting point is 00:40:27 There's one. There's another. And what were they doing? They were checking you out? Following, checking you out. It happens. They check you out as a pack. And you're by yourself.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It's scary. How many did you see? You know what? Better than that, not even a week ago today, I had to spend the majority of the night in a tree because it was a, literally, I'm not sensationalizing this this was a man-eating tart tiger down below me on the ground what? Less than a week ago. We're what India. Oh my god I did I did my first Survivor Man shoot in India fuck are you doing fuck that noise? Oh my god? Where what were you like in the Sundarbans?
Starting point is 00:41:05 I was up in the Jim Corbett Park area, northern India, north of Delhi, about a five-hour drive north of Delhi, and into the forest there. And I was like, you know, this area's not that bad. That's when I got there. After I was there,
Starting point is 00:41:22 I was told that I was dropped in the densest population of tigers in the world. Royal Bengal tiger. Densest population in the world. And then she says to me, this is the madam. And she goes, well, and then the one tiger we have has killed 21 people this year so far. But it's okay. She only recently started eating the corpses.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. And they told me this after I got out. And then I saw a tiger on the first night on the second night I heard it growl I had to go up into a tree and I spent the majority of the night and it's all filmed like I'm filming myself for Survivor Man I got the whole selfie thing going on and I'm like alright
Starting point is 00:41:55 and I had to like pull my camera up with a rope and I'm holding the camera and I'm like you slept in the tree? I didn't sleep I just sat and waited and waited see that to me is so much more interesting than that bullshit monkey fake thing. That's real shit. And Bigfoot, yeah. That's real shit. I mean, that's a real animal.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I mean, if there was a Bigfoot and there was also a tiger, okay? If these absolutely were real things. I put that up on my Twitter the other day. That's a classic video. Somebody tweeted it to me and it just... It's the one thing I'm the most afraid of actually is tigers. Show that again, Jamie. This is a video. We're looking at
Starting point is 00:42:31 folks who are just listening to this. There's a crazy video of this tiger flying through the air and attacking this guy who's on this elephant. He's sitting on the top of the elephant and the tiger just decides fuck this dude and he's sitting on the top of the elephant, and the tiger just decides fuck this dude, and he jumps up through the air,
Starting point is 00:42:48 flies. It's lucky he didn't get gored by the bull elephant with the tusks. Well, the elephant didn't want to have nothing to do with that fucking cat. But the guy got fucked up. When that thing claws his arm, it tore his arm apart. Those are razor blades at the end
Starting point is 00:43:04 of a super powerful predator. That's what was basically 70 yards away from me. Dude, what the fuck, man? I can't believe you didn't fully research this. I know. I thought I did. That's like one of the worst fucking camping ideas ever.
Starting point is 00:43:20 When you go to India, you renegotiate everything you do every hour. Every hour is a new renegotiation. Really? How so? We're going to have, like,negotiate everything you do every hour. Every hour is a new renegotiation. Really? How so? No, we're going to have, like, this person's going to be there. They're going to lead you in an hour later.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So this person's not here, but we're going to, my buddy, my cousin's going to lead you in an hour later. My cousin couldn't make it. And when you get, you're not allowed to go in anyway because the government says, hey, just like every hour was going like that. So get this. I go out. They probably think you're crazy they do think you're nuts so i went out to do my first night of survivor man alone i'm out in the jungle i'm out there and i'm i'm like i'm filming myself like all right you know what i'm gonna have to do is i'm probably gonna stay here and stay here for the night sort of thing get a fire going i'm
Starting point is 00:44:00 doing the whole thing and i hear some noise and i and i i go back about four or five hundred yards and and in the middle of the jungle the the fucking forest 50 people show up and have a lord shiva rave and all of a sudden i hear and i'm literally so i'm in the middle of the forest surviving right now wow it was the most bizarre thing and it turns out this one time of the whole year in this remote little place where there's this stone in the forest it's the lord shiva stone all these people like 50 people on motorcycles showed up and i'm like so i'm gonna i'm gonna walk deeper that way because there's tigers
Starting point is 00:44:46 and at least they're quiet and you know what's really bizarre is that there's a big push to save the tiger in india there's a big push to make sure that the murderers of humans have healthy populations we're scared we don't want them to go away nah come on come on. It's weird. It's weird. I'm not saying that we should encourage extinction, because they are, even though they're terrifying and they're predatory and they're dangerous, they're a beautiful, amazing life form. I mean, I don't want tigers to go extinct. I don't want to be anywhere near them, but I don't want them to go extinct, because I think they're fascinating.
Starting point is 00:45:22 They're great. They're fascinating. But you don't go camping where they eat. Come on. See, you just know. That's the thing. It's like, you've got to allow the tiger to be the tiger. If you go and you sleep in an area that's rich
Starting point is 00:45:36 with polar bears or tigers and you have a tiger or polar bear problem, right? It's like, well, why am I having this issue with polar bears? Because you're sleeping in polar bear territory, idiot. It's their world.'s an issue there's an area in uh the india called the sundarbans and there's an issue with the water because the water is like got too much salt in it so the animals are irritated all the time and there's a lot of typhoons in that area so a lot of people die and they get washed into the river and the tigers develop a taste for human flesh
Starting point is 00:46:04 so it's one of the rare places where they're actively hunting people on a regular basis in the last 200 years it's not that rare no it's not rare at all i just got i said i just got back from india less than five six days ago it's not the tiger attacks are normal super common they're normal so they're their way of life they're thinking about what life is. It's so different than ours. At any moment, they get snatched away by a monster. At any moment, you're walking from a lake or a river to your family in a hut, and you hear a twig snap, and you turn, and you see this 800-pound thing already in the air on its way to you.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And you know that's a wrap, son. Giddy-biddy-biddy. That's all, folks. That's life in the bush and life You feel that fucking blade slice into your jugular Crushed down on your vertebrae. I'd wear do Vertibly yeah, he said up a new word. That's a vertebrae. God's blade Bray now is not the time for grammar God splayed Bray now's not the time for grammar
Starting point is 00:47:10 We're singing you can do someone correct their grammar you slept in a fucking tree you stayed up there in a tree no When do you feel confident enough to climb down? Fuck all right, so you know why I knew the tiger was there the monkeys started going crazy the peacocks started going crazy They all they all react They're all like holy shit, and then all the monkeys go up high. And they're like, wah, wah, wah. And you know. And you're looking. And you know.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Nothing's going on over there. And there's a tiger slowly moving through. You don't hear any twigs snap for a tiger. Do you see it? I saw it, yeah. I saw it. On the night before, I saw it go across the field. That night, I didn't see it.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I heard it growl, which was even scarier. Oh, my God. The monkeys all saw it. They were all, so now you get it. And you have to be at, which was even scarier. Oh, my God. The monkeys all saw it. They all saw it. And you have to be at least 12 feet up the tree because they can jump and kind of reach up to 12 feet. Oh, my God. Yeah, there's a video of them. It's messed up.
Starting point is 00:47:55 There's a video of them attacking some meat. They hold it up in the air, and the tigers leap up to get it. And you watch it. You're like, what? Is that possible? They can really pull that video up, Jamie. It's the most ridiculous video. There's this guy.
Starting point is 00:48:09 He holds this meat up. And this tiger just does something that you just go, oh. I kind of like, I never internalized what it looks like when they jump 12 feet in the air. Like, watch this. They hold this meat up. Look at this thing. This thing fucking flies. And grab.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Its head is like 14 feet in the air. That's why it climbed at least 12 feet up the tree. Oh, my God. Watch that again. That's insane. That animal is just, what it can do with its body to kill things. I mean, that's what it's designed for. But the fact that they're sitting there, these two giant cats are sitting there watching this person feed them.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Like, what kind of bizarro world is that? That's just habituation. They're fenced in, and this guy is holding this thing in a crane up in the air, and the tiger jumps up and grabs it. It's insane. They're powerful, man. Fuck! Now, you don't have weapons and you can't no no i mean there was an area i was in and uh they used the force they
Starting point is 00:49:12 of course force is always there they wouldn't let me go into an area with an armed guard armed guard i was like dude i'm like survivor man i gotta go out i gotta do this thing and i gotta be alone we will not let you we're not gonna let you do that and And I wasn't allowed to to be out there without it without an armed guard So they had landers like maybe half a half a maybe a quarter mile away Was like actually pair of armed guards on either side of a mile. I know wack is gone Bitch you gotta be like three feet away I'm thinking this thing 75 yards from me and it pounces on me, how fast is it going to get here?
Starting point is 00:49:48 A quarter of a mile is a long time. It takes a long time to get on foot from a quarter of a mile. It does, yeah. How fast can you run a mile? Like a really fast mile is like a four-minute mile, right? That's like the thing that no one thought you could ever do. So one-fourth of that is a minute. So stop and think about that. Yeah, but just stop and think about a minute of running.
Starting point is 00:50:08 That's what it is. If you're like the fastest guy ever, you run for a minute to get to you. What the fuck a tiger can do to you in 59, 58, 57, 56, 55? You're fucking torn to charades. It's like you with a roach. Like, literally as ferocious as you would tear a roach's body apart, that's what a tiger could do to you. It's insane. They're powerful.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And you're sleeping above, or hanging out in a tree above it. Yeah, and of course, you know, I'm going to give a super shout out to the fact that they're actually 30% increasing in population in this one area Which is phenomenal because they are beautiful. It's awesome. I think there's enough powerful beautiful now I mean more of them and make sure they fuck We need more actually need more of them Jesus Yeah, seems like there's more Bigfoot than there are than there are Tigers Oh, well, I don't know about that because I've seen a tiger. I've seen it with my own eyes at the zoo.
Starting point is 00:51:13 You and this Bigfoot thing. What if they dropped off one tiger a year in Los Angeles, but they don't tell you where it's at? Well, they kind of have mountain lions wandering around. They usually don't fuck anybody up. I got to get this guy out in the bush. No, you need to have some shit that's not fake, like that guy with his monkey face. Well, you know my shit's not fake. Your shit is not fake.
Starting point is 00:51:36 You wouldn't fake anything. Remember I texted you. I'm shooting the Bigfoot shows. You want to come out? I was tempted. I would find the spot. I said, this is where they say all this shit happens. We'd go.
Starting point is 00:51:47 We'd sit up. We'd sit by the fire with a case of Guinness, and we'd drink, and we'd keep the fire going. Stay up all night. And then in the morning, it's like, that 3 o'clock in the morning shit was insane. Or, well, that was nothing. We had told a lot of stories, and now I'm really tired.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Yeah, I get it, man. I just hate feeling like an asshole and if I was out there wandering around looking for Bigfoot I found nothing I'd be like I've been at home with my kids I could have been writing jokes I could have been working out I could have been you know doing something smart yeah how about like Survivor Man Myrtle Beach we're trying to find bikers can we find them survivor man spring break it'd be like in a bar trying to build shelters out of bar stools again what is it that we need to find this fucking thing like if you really stop and think about like how amazing killer whales are and we know
Starting point is 00:52:40 that they're a real animal that you can go observe they speak in this crazy crazy language that they don't understand, that we don't understand, rather. They have these families. They stay with these pods for life. They're very close to each other. They have different dialects. They start observing the sounds that one group makes, and it's different from the sounds another group in another part of the world makes. They're amazing. They're way more fat.
Starting point is 00:53:03 They kill sharks, man. They kill dolphins. they kill dolphins they eat dolphins like they're ruthless but they're also beautiful and they're really fucking smart they're really smart like in a weird crazy way that just doesn't jive with our idea of you know like oh he doesn't know how to play poker fuck him you know he doesn't know how to play poker. Fuck him. You know, he doesn't know how to drive a car. He's a pussy. He's an idiot. You know, they have some weird, crazy life in the ocean intelligence. They have intelligence where it's applicable in their environment. They don't need to know how to type. Okay?
Starting point is 00:53:36 They don't know how to speak Spanish. They don't have to. No one's Spanish underwater. They speak dolphin. They speak whale. They know all that shit. So why Bigfoot? Yeah, but Bigfoot is like, if he was real, he's like, what is he doing?
Starting point is 00:53:46 He's knocking on wood and shit. Hanging out there hiding his shit. Digging holes. Hiding his logs. No one can find Bigfoot shit. You can find bear shit. You won't find bear bodies. But if you tell me you don't find bear shit, it's because you're in a place that doesn't have any bear.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Right? Where's the Bigfoot shit? He's burying it, man. That's his big a place that doesn't have any bear. Right? Where's the Bigfoot shit? He's burying it, man. That's his big trick. He doesn't save surfers. He doesn't, you know, kill... Have you ever seen, like, a killer whale demonstrate to its young how to kill
Starting point is 00:54:16 a seal? They show them how to kill it. They get them up on ice shelves, they tip the ice shelves and have them slide down. How do you know Bigfoot's not taking his young out? I don't know that he's not, but we don't have any footage. We have no evidence. Not sure. But we have all this evidence of these amazing killer whales that, not only that, they're
Starting point is 00:54:34 smart as shit and they know we killed them. They know we killed them and they still talk to us. They know we killed them. They have to know by now. If they really communicate and they can express I mean they might not totally get it or their concept of life and death might be really weird like way different than ours is I mean it's it's real possible but they're so nice to us like killer whales don't kill people they're not attacking surfers they're not fighting back because they found out that
Starting point is 00:55:02 they got this thing and see no the ones that are in SeaWorld fight back no no no one's out there while people has been some rogue stories for sure a bunch of bullies who got chest bumped by a big fucking killer whale nobody got eaten nobody came back with no legs that's it's not what they do you know and that's an amazing real-life animal. And if we found out that Bigfoot was real, and we go, oh, wow, it's like a big orangutan, but it walks on two legs, that ain't shit compared to a killer whale.
Starting point is 00:55:33 It's not shit. It's not shit. It's a wood-knocking asshole who hides his shit. That's what it is. It's a good point. What you're basically saying is, you're wasting your time up there in the woods? No.
Starting point is 00:55:44 With a guy who's wearing a rubber mask okay could be Let's have a girl Bigfoot with like Bigfoot titties on your season finale The Patterson footage that's what it is. It's a female. Yeah, it's so real. It's got titties. Do you not know about? Bigfoot come to me like these these Bigfoot erotica novels that were published on amazon.com Okay, come to Bigfoot. I think it's called come to Bigfoot erotica novels that were published on Amazon.com. Yeah. Come to Bigfoot. I think it's called Come to Bigfoot. Jamie C.V. had pulled up this title. It became a huge bestseller.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Apparently, in this PC world that we live in, in this weird world of sanitized language and social justice warriors, there's still women out there that want to get fucked by the biggest monkey they can find. Hair fetish, man. It's not a hair fetish. It's a primate fetish. They want to get gorilla fucked by something that doesn't even speak their language. And there's women
Starting point is 00:56:36 that are into this idea of erotica. Obviously, totally in the fantasy. I'm not saying they really want to get fucked by these guys. But I'm saying in the fantasies,'m not saying they really want to get fucked by these guys. But I'm saying... They're most... But in the fantasies, man, these things sell. So there's women that have a fantasy of actually getting fucked by a Sasquatch, by a giant, just like it's overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:56:55 It just takes you. There's women who have this. They actually have a fantasy of getting fucked by something that can't talk to them. It doesn't have any morals. It doesn't have any ethics what's even better for big foot come for big foot Virginia Wade you're awesome I love I hope it's I hope it's parody I'm but I hope it's not too I hope it's not man I realize stories look man we don't know look this shit that guys like the girls can't figure out
Starting point is 00:57:27 Why should we be able to figure out to the swim women that really want to get fucked by Bigfoot? I mean, but if it's only ten of them What if there's a lot of women that are listening right now you fucking asshole you don't understand women women don't want to get fucked No, this is my friend. You don't want I all said sweetie, you don't want to get fucked by Bigfoot. I'm arguing with a person who's not even real. You don't want to get fucked by Bigfoot, but there's women that do, or at least they want to read about it. It might not be, look, there's some guys that are into dressing like mascots and having sex with other men. That's a real thing, okay?
Starting point is 00:58:02 There's some people that are going to be into getting fucked by Bigfoot. It's not a bad thing, god damn it. Mrs. Anderson from Harry and the Andersons. Yeah. Well, look at that. The thing was living with the family. How do you think that thing was going to go down? Exactly. How long is he going to tolerate that guy just banging that chick? Is someone going to bring in a female Bigfoot
Starting point is 00:58:19 to satisfy him? Do we have rub maps for Bigfoot? Yeah. Same thing. There's no... Yeah. If you're going rub maps for Bigfoot? Same story. Yeah, same thing. There's no... Yeah, if you're gonna have a Bigfoot, you better find a fucking female Bigfoot
Starting point is 00:58:30 for him. Because otherwise, the reason why he's come down to the village is he's tired of looking for females. Hey man,
Starting point is 00:58:35 you already alluded to the whole Native American thing and there are lots of stories in Native American lore of the Native women being scooped up.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Mm-hmm. Picked up. And then there's a lot of dudes that don't want to admit their chick ran off with another dude, so they make up some shit about Bigfoot stealing their woman. Because this is the manliest man around. Like, how could she? Look at my
Starting point is 00:58:53 most offensive Native American accent. How could she go off with other men? Must be Sasquatch. Must be Bigfoot. Come down, fuck my woman. Because no man can compete with my hog. That's probably what happened. That's probably some excuses.
Starting point is 00:59:08 It would have sounded like that. It's like a fish story. You know? Dude. I had it at the boat. It was at least 100 pounds bigger than the world record. At least. I'm not exaggerating.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I had her in my teepee. Yeah. No, seriously. Bro, bro. Bigfoot. Bigfoot stole her from the tip of my dick. My dick touched her clit, and then she shot out like she was in the Matrix, like she was attached to rubber bands.
Starting point is 00:59:34 She went flying through the air, and Bigfoot grabbed her. Only you could have taken this to this place. It was on this place. Because this is a place of fantasy. Because until there's a photo of bigfoot until there's dna that makes sense i had that guy todd disotel who's a biologist from the um i think uh nyu so i think it's nyu um he's in new york city very very brilliant guy and he was also on that spike show where they went with dean kane he went looking for bigfoot i didn't watch that show the
Starting point is 01:00:02 bounty i can't watch them anymore. But talking to that dude, he's like, no one's brought in anything, man. There's not one piece of DNA. And he explained how all this stuff gets contaminated. Like, when you have someone pick something up
Starting point is 01:00:15 and they put it in a bag and they hand it to someone, oh, it's some sort of human DNA. You can't do that because someone touched it. And when people touch things, you leave DNA on shit. You know, when your sweaty ass picks up some hairs in the woods and you drop them into a...
Starting point is 01:00:30 You're not supposed to touch that with your body. If you do, you've contaminated it. You should have rubber gloves on. You should have tongs. And you should have a direct chain of custody between touching that fucking thing and it being in a laboratory being analyzed. And if you don't, your studies are bullshit. and this guy explained this to me in no uncertain terms and when you look at it that way you go Okay, that means none of its real like not no one's found anything. They've never found a bone They've never found a piece of hair. They've never found Bigfoot shit
Starting point is 01:00:59 They never found one thing that you could say this makes Bigfoot a real animal. So all you're going on is stories, and all you're going on is the knowledge that an animal like that used to exist, and the knowledge that they found another unknown primate on the island of Flores that was only 10,000 plus years ago. I think like maybe 13,000 years ago. It's in that range, which is incredibly recent. Like really, really, really recent for a three foot tall little monkey person, you know, that used tools but had a small brain. Like, can you imagine those things were running around today?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Weird little freaky fucking half monkey people. That'd be cool. Oh, it'd be so scary though. They'd probably steal your baby and eat it. Such a fetish to fuck though. Ooh, you would fuck it, wouldn't you? Yes. Come for tiny Sasquatch Hobbit people.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Come for the orang pendek. That doesn't have the same sort of rhyme to it. No, it doesn't. Have you ever fucked an animal before you ate it? Hey, easy, dude. Before what? Before you ate it? You didn't see that?
Starting point is 01:01:59 The outtakes? That's not... Listen, this is not appropriate. You're alone in the woods. No one's looking. This sounds like a confession. Honestly, that's what listen this is not appropriate alone in the woods no one's looking this sounds like a confession honestly that's what i'm thinking let's get back to bigfoot okay what is the one thing you've done the show or you had your experience outside the show and then you went and did the show what is the one thing while you were on the show that really gave you pause it really made you think we were videototaping on a trigger motion,
Starting point is 01:02:26 a motion-triggered camera, had this all set up, put bait out for Bigfoot. Like a trail cam type thing? Trail cam. Put bait out and watched from one clip to the next clip, the bait, all of it, two chocolate bars and an apple, in a wild frame field, disappear. Just disappear.
Starting point is 01:02:50 It's on the show. I have no answer for that whatsoever. A mouse would have set, this is really sensitive half-second triggers, a mouse would have set that off. And besides, it had like many, many feet. Can it be paused? Oh, I pause it in the show. I pause it in the show. Can it be paused? Like could someone walk up to it and shut its operation off momentarily?
Starting point is 01:03:10 Go over there, grab the candy bar, walk out of frame, and then turn it back on? That's not possible? No, it's not possible. Why isn't it possible? It doesn't work that way? Because I was alone. I was on the top of a mountain. I'm not saying...
Starting point is 01:03:22 And on top of that... I mean, is it possible in this circumstance i mean is it possible with the operation of that trail because what happens is no it's not it's not because to to turn the camera off right you have to open it up the second you move it you're now being filmed okay i had another scene uh where a black bear actually came and took my took my camera and it's all on camera you You see his mouth biting the lens. You see him pull the camera off the tree as he's walking. You kind of see the area of his limb just moving as he's walking.
Starting point is 01:03:53 And a lot of those you can set up to send the data to Wi-Fi, right? You can, actually, yeah. And some of them will send you text messages when they have images, when they see something, they see movement. They'll send you a text message that alerts you that you have movement on your cameras. So you didn't get any of those readings, but you did get the candy bars disappearing. Disappearing. Do you think the bright lights in the sky stole your candy?
Starting point is 01:04:14 I don't know. Maybe. What do you think happened, for real? For real, I haven't got a freaking clue. Is it infrared camera? Yes, it is. got a freaking clue is it infrared camera yes it is it's so it would be a crazy coincidence if the camera malfunctioned at the exact moment that someone came along and stole the candy that doesn't that's impossible it's impossible but is there a way it's on the top of a mountain right but if say some hoaxer dude knew you were going and was slick about it and was like real like stealthy. Not possible.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Most likely not possible. Most likely. But is it possible, is there a device that you could use that would freeze the operation of the camera? Is there some sort of a magnetic field that you could maybe generate, like something powerful that would cause it to disrupt momentarily enough where you could run over and grab the candy? If you were Bigfoot.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Only if you're Bigfoot? How. Only if you're Bigfoot? How come only if you're Bigfoot? Not only. I didn't say only. Okay. If you're Bigfoot. I said if you're Bigfoot. Well, that means that's the answer. At the end of the show, when I wrap it up, I say, I don't have an answer for this.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Right. The skeptics would say everything fell off the branches and out of the field of view before the camera could register the falling Even though they were stuck on things upright like this and it's infrared. Oh wait a minute. Wait a minute They were hanging they weren't just sitting down. They were stuck on this branches Okay, would a camera be sensitive enough to depict? Could you catch that if a candy bar fell off a branch? It seems like not a large enough object to trigger.
Starting point is 01:05:46 If it fell off on its own, I think it could potentially fall out of frame. The problem is these things were all stuck and lodged. There was zero wind. But yeah, but isn't it more likely that gravity pulled them down to the ground than that Bigfoot's invisible and knows how to shut off cameras?
Starting point is 01:06:02 Oh. That's an interesting question. What am I, a scientist? Yes, you are. Yes, is the answer to that. I think I need a lab coat. That's more likely, right? Actually, who can answer that question? More likely. Probably a scientist.
Starting point is 01:06:13 More likely? Or someone who's not. What probability are they measuring? More likely. Who the hell knows? What's more likely is what we know exists. Something called gravity. We know that that's a real thing.
Starting point is 01:06:25 We know something's hanging on a tree. Look, I've set up things thinking they're going to be there until the end of time. I came back a week later, they were gone. Crazy how things like that happen. Gravity always wins. And that's possible. Gravity works on tits. It works on balls.
Starting point is 01:06:38 It works on candy bars falling off of trees. Nobody wins. Gravity always wins. is falling off of trees. Nobody wins. Gravity always wins. So, I would think that if it's between
Starting point is 01:06:45 gravity and an unknown monkey, I'm gonna go with gravity. I hope you watch the show. Well, definitely watch it now. You gotta see it. But it sounds crazy, though.
Starting point is 01:06:57 It's just like, that's it. It is crazy. But that's it. It got messed up. Just candy bars disappearing, that's the number one thing. It is possible.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Did you try to recreate? Did you, like, try to set some candy bars up and, up and put a time lapse on them or put the trail cam on them, rather, and see if you could recreate it? And you weren't able to recreate it? Because it didn't fall. No. Did you try to make it fall, like put it up real flimsy and then knock them down and see if the camera picks it up? No. That's what I would have done.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Because if the camera didn't pick it up, I'd go, well, there fell right but was it there but then again it fell from what i mean it'd be like if i put that there you tell me what the odds are of this falling off of this table before tomorrow morning well that's different that's like setting it on a stump right like setting it was this the the analogy of the comparison the same. They were firmly put in places where they wouldn't just fall. Right. So they were put in places or they were hanging? Put in places. Okay. I'm confused. I thought you were saying they were hanging from a tree.
Starting point is 01:07:55 No. Would you pick that? No, you said hanging. I never said that. I'm sorry. I thought you said they dropped out of frame. They did. I was thinking you said they were stuck in place. I thought you meant like they were stuck in a branch or something like one one apple was like like there's the branch stuck in the apples like this okay okay so it was but it was stuck inside the
Starting point is 01:08:15 branch but it was still like hanging in the air like the branch it was the apple was hanging in the air no no i would say no to that no no. Was it on the ground? No, it was 15 feet up. Okay, but in the branch 15 feet up, I don't want to get bogged down in semantics. People go, what's the point? If it was in the air, it's 15 feet above the ground, right? And the apple
Starting point is 01:08:37 stuck on the branch. It could conceivably have fallen off. It's nothing like being on this table. Being on this table is 100% likely that If you put this lighter here in 24 hours as long as we don't have an earthquake the lighter at least would be splitting hairs But I'll give you that that's not splitting hairs at all We're talking about something that could fall from gravity versus something that absolutely cannot move unless some interfering force comes along No, okay. Well the two chocolate bar ferocious wind right an earthquake the chocolate bars
Starting point is 01:09:05 No, this is the same the chocolate bars were sitting here in the middle of table. There was okay So there was okay the apple was stuck on a tree branches this big And the chocolate bar sitting right like that right nice and like not going anywhere Okay, so for folks who he's making his hand like about 16 inches. Yeah Okay, so for folks who, he's making his hand like about 16 inches. That's my dick. About Brian's dick. And inside he puts a pen, which is my dick.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Small pen. Baby, black. It's a happy dick, though. It's nothing to brag about. So, okay. So, that little tiny baby dick in between a little space, that's where you dropped a candy bar, correct? Mm-hmm. So, the apple stuck in a tree about 15 feet off the ground. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Two candy bars. The candy bars. Now, what part of the world- Who calls it a candy bar anymore, anyway? I do. I live in America. That's right. We refer to it as candy bars.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Candy bars. Wait, what are they called? Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Chocolate? No, it's a candy bar. He's just trying to confuse us, man. We got him on the run here.
Starting point is 01:10:03 And apples dry out really fast. Have you ever let an apple out? Like, if it has a little cut, it turns brown candy bar. He's just trying to confuse us, man. We got him on the run here. And apples dry out really fast. Have you ever let an apple out? Like if it has a little cut, it turns brown. Stop with your logic and your science. Just stop. It was almost sound. There's mysticism to be uncovered here. Now, the candy bars, you left them on the log.
Starting point is 01:10:20 So the candy bar is represented by the baby dick, right? And so this is flat. It's sitting on a flat surface. What kind of an area are we looking at? Are we looking at like a heavily wooded area? Is that what it's like? No, the top of the mountain, sparse trees, rocks. Rodents?
Starting point is 01:10:35 You got rodents up there? Rodents for sure. Right. Wouldn't it be likely that maybe a rodent is small enough that it could grab that candy bar and maybe the trail camera is set up for like game Probably set up for something that triggers its its camera sensors No, in fact it we showed it with a testing that it actually triggers with dust in the air So it just always be on right?
Starting point is 01:11:01 You remember those scenes in Twilight where the sunlight is cutting through the trees and you see all the dust in the air, all the glistening stuff and shit and birds? So it'd be a constant, like, flash. It'd be like a movie, basically. That's what it would be. It was constantly... You could run it together, like stop animation. Just nothing would stop.
Starting point is 01:11:21 It would keep moving. So it could pick up dust. All right, so my rodent theory doesn't work. But I know where you're going with this. No, no. I agree. My theory is the rodent theory. That's the only one that makes sense to me.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Unless Bigfoot can fuck with cameras and make them stop. Right. Is that what you were implying? That's what I was implying. Really? For real? For real. I was implying.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Okay. I didn't say that's what it was. But you will. I was implying the possibility. You will put say that's what it was. But you will... I was implying the possibility. You will put that in your what if folder. What if? Because that's... That's what...
Starting point is 01:11:54 This better be good. Fuck. Bigfoot's aliens. I'm not even going in. I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry. I'm not telling you. Come on, we got to joke around.
Starting point is 01:12:02 We're drinking. We have a little Guinness, a little marijuana. We're talking Bigfoot. You can't take this seriously. Sorry. So if it is possible that this animal exhibits some strange power over electronics, that would explain a lot of things, right? It would explain a lot of shit.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Like, how come there's no pictures of Bigfoot? Funny thing. Funny thing. We found out that it knows how to stop cameras. It's smart enough to figure out how to stop cameras. Not smart enough for pants or shoes or any cool shit. No cell phones. Driving a car.
Starting point is 01:12:39 No Bigfoot TV. But they figured out how to stop cameras because that fucking camera is a problem. As soon as man invented a camera, they saw it and were like, we've got to figure out how to mess with that. We've got to get a radio shack. And we've got to screech. It's the howls. The howls kill the camera.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Did you do the howling? That was a big, of course. Like the hoop? The hoop? How does anybody know what it sounds like? That's what I said. How do you even know what you're saying? You'd be like pissing. You'd say, oh man, dudes, you guys are ugly. You does anybody know what it sounds like that's what I said I don't even know what you're saying. Yeah, like pissing you say oh, man dudes. You guys are ugly You don't know what you're saying you calling for some dick
Starting point is 01:13:11 That's the worst you get there. He thinks you're a dick tease just beats a shit I hope a horny Bigfoot wasting his time. It's like you don't want to be a fake Bigfoot tinder. I'm saying Tinder Bigfoot because yeah yeah that's what they use to kids today the kids today bigfoot bigfoot could just be people from the future fucking with us easily easily much more likely than bigfoot yeah i think time travel is more believable what's more believable is that aliens went back in time grab grabbed the Gigantopithecus, and just drop it off periodically in the woods to fuck with people. That's more likely than a large,
Starting point is 01:13:50 more than tigers, population of Gigantopithecus running through the woods. You're going to love this one. It gets even better. On another occasion, it was all about the potential of it being the nephron from the Bible,
Starting point is 01:14:02 Genesis chapter 6. Oh, chapter 6. As long as you number the chapters, it gives a lot of credence to words. That sounds authoritative. potential of it being the nephron from the bible genesis chapter six the great man of renege you number the chapters it gives a lot of credence to words it sounds authoritative so there you go that's the stuff you start hearing and seeing oh and over and over again it's bizarre it's a slippery slope there easily could have been large people at one point in time i mean there's large people today the idea that this has never happened before you never had shaquille o'neal's before you never had that guy from china what's his what's the guy's name gigantic gigantic basketball player yeah i mean thank you guys are
Starting point is 01:14:35 giant he's so fucking tall he's taller than shaquille o'neal like 7 10 7 11 or something how tall is he jamie yeah 7'7". What the fuck? So that guy exists today. It's very likely that at one point in time in history, there was a batch of those people. There was a lot of them. It's so possible. We vary a lot, and we're not genetically that much different than people that lived 50,000 plus years ago. So you're talking about the Bible, which was maybe written somewhere around like four or five
Starting point is 01:15:06 thousand years ago and i think the dead sea scrolls i think they got that to like was that like five thousand years whatever it is so it's anywhere it's between like what we have today 2015 and the last like whatever thousand years it's super possible that there was a group of huge fucking yao mings running around back then totally possible that's was a group of huge fucking Yao Ming's running around back then. Totally possible. That's the same genes. I mean, they probably have more access to protein and food today, but if they lived in a really rich source, you know as well as anybody that any bear that lives in an area where there's a lot of salmon, look how tall that guy is.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Oh, my God. Who's that guy? Is that the newest giant? Yeah, he's 7'5". He's a college player now. Mama do MGI or something like that. Oh, my God. He's still growing. Yeah, he's only like 19 Jesus fucking Christ Now imagine if you're as short as me
Starting point is 01:15:54 I'm 5 8 and I stumbled through them by the way back in like the Civil War days Those guys were smaller than me those guys were tiny Let's have an average size of a grown man in the Civil War was like 135 pounds. They were these tiny little people that didn't get a lot of food. Voyageurs were the same. They used to carry like 100 pounds on their back. Man, if you found a guy like this, if you went to some place and you saw people like this, and you got in a boat and sailed across the sea and landed on an island that was filled with legit giants,
Starting point is 01:16:24 God damn, you'd have some stories I Think that makes more sense in Bigfoot The Nephilim So the best thing you saw was nothing The best thing you saw was shit disappearing best thing I saw yeah was shit just pretty shit disappearing But what about sounds? Did you hear anything? Did you hear any moans or any grunts or anything? Same as before,
Starting point is 01:16:50 the odd, you know, whoop! But what the hell is that? That could be a bird, right? That could be a raven. Frog. Could be a frog, could be anything. Frogs don't whoop. Frogs make a lot of crazy noises. They do. Do they whoop? Yeah, they make a sound like that for sure. They scream. What was the sound that you heard when you were in your tent? You heard a Sas of crazy noises. They do. Do they whoop? Yeah, they make it sound like that for sure. They scream.
Starting point is 01:17:06 What was the sound that you heard when you were in your tent? You heard a Sasquatch sound. So you're talking about the Survivor Man in Alaska show. Yes. What does it sound like? Well, first of all, picture the scene. I'm there.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Let me take my pants off. Middle of nowhere. Oh, sorry. Do you want... There should be some hand cream over there. I don't need that shit. I dry jack. I'm a man. I don't want to be dependent on lotion like some pussy. That's why I don't need that shit. I drive a dry Jack my man
Starting point is 01:17:31 I'll be dependent on lotion like some pussy it took so I don't take pain pills like a bus split second They just go downhill Down the hill it's got way better Okay, sorry, so picture this scene middle of nowhere Alaska and coast by myself. What do I smell like? lavender Alaska and coast by myself what do I smell like lavender lavender sorry okay middle of nowhere
Starting point is 01:17:50 Alaska coast I'm sorry I wanted to and I'm filming a scene a survivor man scene blah blah blah just big in the grass bed or something and then all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:17:57 I the trees 50 yards away at about a 10 foot 12 foot height just start like
Starting point is 01:18:04 shaking just going crazy and then i hear a great ape like that only way way way way way louder deeper right goes right through your body when it's done the problem is i'm in alaska so unless there's an escaped great ape from the zoo, what the hell is that? Because bears don't do that. The skeptics would say that the bear, you just ran across a bear that made some unusual noises. Five times in a row, and then when
Starting point is 01:18:33 he left, five times in a row, and then when he left, the whole forest just erupted with breaking trees as it ran away. I don't know many bears that do that. Hence my question. What was that? Wish I knew.
Starting point is 01:18:49 These people think it's Bigfoot. I'm gonna go find it. Indian rave. No, there's no way whatsoever that you were asleep before this happened. Oh, it was 2 o'clock in the afternoon. 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Roughly. So you had more than one experience, right? Because there was another one when you went for your camera and it ran off, right?
Starting point is 01:19:07 No, that was that one. That was that one. I thought that was at night. Did I screw it up? I'm going to screw it up in my own head. Midday. Okay, so when you didn't see anything, you just heard it. Didn't see anything.
Starting point is 01:19:17 You just heard it. To this day, I haven't seen anything. So I can't claim anything. I haven't seen it. That's what I keep saying. Show it to me. That's a fucked up thing about people telling you stories.
Starting point is 01:19:28 I had it in my head that this was a story at night time. I had it in my head that you were in your tent and that this thing came out at night time and made all this noise
Starting point is 01:19:36 and then you went for your camera and it ran off. You wanted it to be more like that. Yeah, I wanted it to be spookier. I didn't have a tent. Night time scares me.
Starting point is 01:19:42 And it was midday. No tent, midday. It was a Survivorman thing. Have you ever seen something where you're like, that might be Bigfoot? Never seen anything? No. Nothing? No.
Starting point is 01:19:54 That's why I want to know. Finding schizophrenia. I don't think it's schizophrenia. I don't think it's schizophrenia. I think here's a problem. Heightened states. Okay? Heightened states of fear.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Heightened states of alienation. Unusual states of the mind. Which would definitely coincide with being alone in Alaska by yourself. With like a fucking bottle opener. And a roll of duct tape and a condom. I mean, that's what you have when you go to these fucking places. You go and you bring like a bag of shit that you might ordinarily have on you if something went horribly wrong and you found yourself in these places. And then you figure out a way to survive. That's a heightened state, right?
Starting point is 01:20:43 So anything that happens is going to be suspect yeah there was just like some stuff going on in your brain man your brain is protecting you from all sorts of weird possibilities bears and predators who knows what the fuck is out there and people find a fucking person in the middle of nowhere like that that's that might be the most dangerous shit you come across yeah that's freaky i've run across people motherfucker out there you know some crazy unabomber ted kaczynski type character that's scarier than the tigers way scarier than the tigers a guy living by himself if you went in deep deep deep deep deep into the woods like miles and miles in hours and hours of, and you found a cabin, you better not knock on that fucking door. You just better not.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Who's this guy? Why is he out here with no one around him? That guy's crazy. That might be the scariest thing you could ever find in the woods, a person who lives in the woods. Yeah, I totally agree. I've always said that. People go on about the romanticism of some dude living out in the bush by himself for 35 years.
Starting point is 01:21:44 I was like, is like he's nuts guys an asshole Guaranteed he's gonna live where there's no people what an asshole people are my favorite thing I love people why would you live where there's no people? What kind of a piece of shit wants to live in a woodshed in the middle of nowhere? Somebody wants to blow everybody up it's like that ted kaczynski guy that's how he lived guy was a professor at berkeley decided to just move to the woods that was his house look at that that's scary fuck yeah man you see that
Starting point is 01:22:16 thing light it on fire that's scary take your chances take your chances escaping from the flames light that house on fire. Fuck that guy. Looks like Ohio. By the way, I don't mean that. If you're listening to this podcast right now in a tiny little shed in the middle of nowhere, this will always be my dream, man. You're shitting on my dream. I don't really mean that.
Starting point is 01:22:36 I'm just talking. Relax. Relax. There's a sweet backpedal going on there. But it's true. If you do live in the woods like that, there's a high possibility that you might be fucking crazy. Or hiding from the law. Yeah. Or hiding from the law.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Actually, when you see people been out there for a long, even if they didn't start out crazy, you go bush. Right. Now, tell me this. Do you take that in consideration when you think about this experience? Like, you're like, man, did I fuck this up in my head? Did I have no reference point because I was alone for too long out there? in my head did i have no reference point because i was alone for too long out there and did i just give myself some sort of a jolt like an extra emotional charge to my memory that may have distorted it and as i repeated it over and over again in my memory i might have twisted it a little bit and jumped it up or moved it side to side or are you rock solid that that's exactly what happened absolutely Absolutely option one.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I haven't got a freaking clue. I could have been messed up. Absolutely agree with you. I question all of those experiences I have when I'm out there. That's very honest of you. Come on, man. That's very honest of you. I think that was a raven.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I think that was a squirrel. That's a track I can't account for. Those branches are just broken because of snow load. These ones aren't broken because of snow load. Just like that, I don't have a freaking clue. I could be just mumbling. And that was probably a freaky experience. But was that as freaky as being above the tiger?
Starting point is 01:23:55 What was more freaky? Being above the tiger. Yeah, I would imagine, right? Because this is real. It's as real as it gets. Yeah, it's a confirmed animal. Confirmed kills people. Yeah. I's a confirmed animal. Yeah confirmed kills people Yeah, I was gonna say earlier with that place the Sunda bands. They've killed
Starting point is 01:24:09 300,000 people in the last 200 years Tigers are responsible for three hundred thousand confirmed deaths. That's insane a lot That is a crazy number like you you you you research that I were Listen to that in a documentary and And I'm like, that can't be true. So then I went and I Googled all these different sources. And that's essentially the number somewhere around there. Somewhere between two and three hundred thousand. That's fucking insane, man.
Starting point is 01:24:36 That's insane. Even if it's like, okay, 200 years. Even if it's 200,000. Think about how many fucking people that is. They're getting jacked by tigers. That's a fucking pile of people, man. If you're a pile of 200,000
Starting point is 01:24:54 people, oh my god, that's terrifying. That's a thousand a year. Tigers, hippos. That's three a day. Water buffalo. Dude, that's three a day, right? A thousand a year. It's like three a day.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Or close to it. In that neighborhood. Two to three a day. Every fucking day. For 200 years. Oh my God. Oh my God. Like, fuck the wolf man.
Starting point is 01:25:20 You know? Fuck Bigfoot. Tigers. That's real. What a crazy animal man and we're like working really hard to make sure they stay alive so you can keep eating those Indians fuck man Indians have to be the nicest people ever they know the Tigers are gonna eat them and they still want to make sure their population's healthy. Wow. They must be the nicest people ever.
Starting point is 01:25:49 They are really nice people. They must be. Ones I know, yeah. I mean, that's the only way it makes sense. They actually fought very hard to make sure that the tigers are kept very safe and everything works out. That's amazing. Is that why they worship cows and let cows walk around the streets so that they are like bait? I couldn't figure out that one at all.
Starting point is 01:26:07 That's actually smart. That's actually smart. And let cows like walk around the street so that they are like bait. I couldn't figure out Smart cows are ways you to get them people with guns Get away from me The the whole thing is bananas the the fact that they starve But they won't eat the cows and then the fact that they want the how did they develop this unusual? perspective new Pot grows in profuse amounts all over the roads everywhere. Yeah, you can get it down the street
Starting point is 01:26:30 at a store. They weigh it for you, they measure it. You don't have to go to fucking India and pluck it. I'm talking about you pull up into your driveway and on either side of your driveway is like a field of pot. It's bizarre. How much pot do you need to grow it indoors and I can't get rid of it? I'm trying to hand it out to people. A quarter lasts me a week.
Starting point is 01:26:45 It's everywhere. Jesus Christ. You don't need pot to be growing everywhere. Come to India. Avoid the tigers, but stay for the weed. There's weed everywhere, man. This is California. You don't have to go to India for weed.
Starting point is 01:26:57 That's ridiculous. That's a poor plan. Go for the people. I would really love to experience like what it's like to talk to a real guru i know i goof on a lot of those dudes those those yogis and those what's a real guru i don't know man i think like all things there's got to be someone that's doing it right it's probably insanely difficult to be like a real yogi, like a real master who's really like a sadhu, some dude who just smokes hash all day and meditates and goes into poses.
Starting point is 01:27:35 I was with a sadhu in India last week. Well, that's what they do, right? It was intense. It was went and yeah. I would like to talk to one of those real dudes who's really out there doing it. He's not doing publicity tours or trying to sell books. He doesn't have a podcast. He's just out there smoking hash and stretching So what do you think about that guy who's living off? Nothing no food. No water is bullshit 100% Okay. It's a bullshit artist. Yeah, that guy's nuts
Starting point is 01:28:00 That's why you know about him the reason why you know about him. He's telling me I don't do it I don't drink, I just take in the sun. Fuck out of here. Shut up. I went to this guy's office to film an episode of the sci-fi show, and as I walked in, the thing that he supposedly could do turned out to be bullshit. But as we walked in, he has this picture of this Indian guy, this man from India, and he has white paint all over his face.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And he has no shirt on. He's like this weird dress. He's wearing these weird clothes he's dressed in. And I say, who's that guy? He goes, oh, well, he has actually achieved the highest state of enlightenment, and he has existed without water or food for the past 13 years. I go, no, he hasn't. No, he hasn't. Why is he fat? He's still fat?
Starting point is 01:28:48 He's still fat and he doesn't eat and he doesn't... Get the fuck out of here, man. And then I was like, I can't believe I'm at this guy's office. I'm going to listen to some bullshit thing. You can't say a guy has lived without food for 13 years. Put that motherfucker in one of those David Blaine boxes and let's watch him.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Let's watch him for a few years. Come on. Let me see how long it takes before you starve to death, you fuckhead. You can't just say that. Did you hear about the Aghoris? You ever read about the Aghoris? What is that? In India?
Starting point is 01:29:15 In India? These are the high, enlightened, next level from sadhus sort of thing, and they live off eating the dead people that are in the ganges ganga river oh my god they'll go down and they'll they'll eat the bodies just google a gory google a gory and a g a gh or I think and and the and they they practice necrophilia oh my god yeah they fuck the dead bodies they do oh and this is part of all the sort of states of enlightenment they're in they practice necrophilia. Oh my God. Yeah. They fuck the dead bodies? They do. Oh my God. And this is part of all
Starting point is 01:29:46 the sort of states of enlightenment. They're in the eat excrement. They eat, they'll drink urine. Oh my God. They just live this way. The rule of their thumb is accept the unacceptable.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Wow. It's insane. So they're just trying to smash taboos and... They're there right now, today. Yeah, well it's all about connecting with Shiva
Starting point is 01:30:03 and if you do this you're denying the self and blah, blah, blah, intense cannibal monks of varanasi yeah indian tribe that's a freaky place to go let's drink from skulls and live among the dead and that's not like a fun headline they do it they're there and they do it did you encounter these people i saw one sort of walking through the street kind of thing. I mean... What the fuck, man? They eat the dead?
Starting point is 01:30:28 They eat the dead. And that's a natural practice for them? Yeah. And what's the thought behind it? That they're taking in the worst of the sins of all and that sort of they can connect with Shiva much stronger because of that. Because it's not affecting them. What are they wearing all over them? Is that white paint?
Starting point is 01:30:46 Ash. Ash from the dead bodies. Oh, my God. So they take the ash from the dead bodies and they smear it all over themselves? Yeah, while they're finishing off the leg bone. Oh, my God. It's intense. And then they just meditate and they do yoga.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Yeah. What in the fuck? Yeah. Jesus Christ. That guy's got like Blood in his beard Is that what that is Maybe
Starting point is 01:31:08 Maybe Ah Artifact of the camera Shitty Joe when they ate people In Walking Dead Don't Don't lie
Starting point is 01:31:15 That made you a little hungry For steak though right When they were just Chewing that big Piece of meat It looked good No It looked like
Starting point is 01:31:22 Like he was eating Something that wasn't a person Right Maybe A person is good Yeah Hollywood special effects People supposedly It looked good. No, it looked like he was eating something that wasn't a person. Right. Maybe a person is good. Yeah. Hollywood special effects. People supposedly taste like pig.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Cannibals would call them long pig. Long pig is an expression for human meat. Apparently, we taste a lot like pigs, which is really weird, man. It's really weird. Cannibalism freaks people out, rightly so. Seeing that that that was a very bizarre video or a very bizarre series of images Looking at those people knowing those people have eaten bodies Yeah, there's something about looking at someone that you know eats bodies Yeah And they don't eat bodies because they're in a plane crash and they have to do it to survive the bodies because that's just what
Starting point is 01:32:01 they Is that they kill? No. No. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. In fact, people come to them to be healed. What's their breath like? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Must be insanely bad. Do they brush? Floss? Anything? Well, if they floss. They use human hair. Exactly. They floss with human hair.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Now, these people that they get from the river, they're human hair exactly now these people that like they get from the the river that they're people that drowned or something like that you know you know how they um they always cremate their dead down by the river and then they let and then they let them they leave them floating along in a in a oh wait what is this sort of thing said to collect these remains use them for spiritual enlightenment wearing costumes. Oh Wearing the corpses consuming them or building altars from them what? Parading up dead bodies in the street. Oh my god. They wear the corpses wear them like what tie them to their body What see if you can find something with dudes wearing one of the corpses that's pretty sick. Oh
Starting point is 01:33:06 That was weird man just seeing them walk down with that body knowing they they have like little rituals they do with their bodies oh what we do is weird too right how's embalming any fucking less creepy than that embalming's creepy it's super creepy yeah i'd rather be burned or blown up. It'd be cool to be blown up. Joey Diaz had a friend, and they knew someone who died, like a young lady. And the parents showed up at the funeral parlor, and the guy came back from doing something with the body, and he was sweaty, and he was out of breath. And they were thinking that this guy might have fucked their dead daughter like this is a possibility i'm pretty sure joey told me this story and they saw this guy sweating and heaving and there was this weird feeling in the air and then they found that out a few times there's been quite a few times her guys got
Starting point is 01:34:00 busted doing that oh it happens a lot oh my, my God, it must. It must. Especially with people that are really fucked up in the head, and then on top of being fucked up in the head, they somehow or another get a job where they have access to dead bodies. They get super comfortable around being around dead bodies. And you just look at this warm tit from some chick who got shot in the head five hours ago. This is a fucker. Yeah, you get seen from a Tarantino movie.
Starting point is 01:34:28 God damn, man. That's people, man. There's a lot of people out there that are like that. Messed up. But to see that, man, to see that there's a whole culture based on it, somehow or another... That was bizarre. And there is a whole culture based on it.
Starting point is 01:34:41 It's not like there's three people. There's, like, lots of them. And they have sex with the corpses. And they have sex with the corpses. And they have sex with the corpses. And they consume them. They wear them. They like, they're just trying to break all taboos, right? Is that what they're trying to do?
Starting point is 01:34:52 Yeah. Accept the unacceptable. What is he doing? Drinking from the skull? Oh my God. Jesus Christ. What is he drinking? Maybe either human urine or feces or combination.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Oh, just a fucking Jesus Christ, son. Where's your father? That's so weird, man. That was bizarre. It's a bizarre cultural moment. But it's looking, it's like, it's so weird. Like, look behind him. You have that, was that a Buddha or Shiva?
Starting point is 01:35:18 Shiva. Shiva image behind him. So you're, you know, you're dealing with someone who's practicing. But you might go like you might go to be cured of something from this guy and he would like they swear they have the cures for you that guy with his head filled with shit and urine take aspirin go to cvs and take some aspirin we need more tigers definitely i agree yeah tigers to take those assholes out absolutely how many of those people get killed a year by tigers probably none?
Starting point is 01:35:47 But we need to do is get Bigfoot and the tiger together in the octagon and see who's the king of the goddamn forest My money's on tiger. Yeah, I take tiger over Bigfoot all day When was the last time Bigfoot jumped 14 feet through the air to bitch slap somebody? Yeah, so that tiger can do. Mm-hmm How many Sasquatch do you actually estimate are up there? I don't estimate anything like that. Do you think there's any? Do I think there's any? Any.
Starting point is 01:36:15 I think that the possibility of something exists. What the fuck it is, I don't know. Okay, if you had to guess, though. If I gave you, if we said uh listen this is the the lottery right now this is the world lottery you got two choices one side is yes this is a real animal it exists one side is no you got to push all your chips on one side which way are you gonna go i'd go yes i'm going no all day all day All day like this. I'll take that. I'll take it.
Starting point is 01:36:45 You know why? Because even though they did find the hobbit bones, they did find this fanged vampire deer. It just seems like all those things are way more possible than Bigfoot. For whatever reason, Bigfoot feels, and I know this isn't logical, this isn't scientific, it feels like bullshit. There's so much bullshit attached to it. You already know it, though.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Feelings aren't fact, and that's all you... Someone's a little defensive. No, because on both sides, both sides got nothing. You're right. Well, that's not totally true, because the absence of evidence doesn't necessarily mean there's evidence, but the fact that there's, like, zero evidence would lead to...
Starting point is 01:37:36 Not real. Anecdotal references don't count? That doesn't count, because people are full of shit. And this is the most hilarious one. The Patterson footage. Gee, that looks real the fuck out of here that's so dumb the fact that scientists actually examined that thing for decades well i believe the gate perhaps could be a very unusually shaped person but my money
Starting point is 01:37:58 not a dude with a monkey suit on, with football pads on. No, no, no, no, no. Unknown monkey. For sure. Unknown monkey. I don't know. It could be real. I would tell you what I would be most happy.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Most happy if it was real. I don't know why. But if they did find Bigfoot, it would probably be next to my daughter's birth. Probably be the happiest day of my life. You know what? I'll tell you why. I want two lesbian Bigfoots. I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Because you know what? Because it means there's still freaking magic in the world. That's why. If it's real, there's a lot of magic going on. There's some cool shit going on out there. Okay, Narnia. You wish. Don't rag on me for the wrong word.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Okay. Hang on a second. Magic in the world. Episode 78 of Come to Me, Bigfoot. There's magic still in the world. What I meant was this cool shit still going on. Yeah, well, there's a lot of cool shit that's alive. That's one of my main points about all this.
Starting point is 01:39:03 You're right. Why do we need something unknown to get us so excited about biology? When it's things like that shoe bill, that thing is fucking bizarrely evil looking real giant prehistoric bird. It doesn't fly.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Because Bigfoot is closer to us than we think. Look at that thing. Look at that motherfucker. Jesus Christ, that thing's evil. If you're going for cool factor. That thing is so crazy. If you didn't know that was a real animal
Starting point is 01:39:33 and you said, look at this evil thing in this new Hobbit movie. It's one of the things that attacks the Hobbit are five foot tall birds that don't fly and they're predatory and they have a giant bill that's like the size of... What is that thing? Two feet long? They're bills?
Starting point is 01:39:49 It looks exactly like that dark crystal creature. Remember that creature from the dark crystal? It looks exactly like that. That's one of the things that they know existed in North America. This terror bird that put that to shame. That's like a five foot tall version of this terror bird was even bigger with an even bigger beak
Starting point is 01:40:10 And they didn't even find out about that thing until I want to say like 20 or 30 years ago They started discovering the fossils. I don't I might be wrong, but I don't think it was that long ago James do the research please That's why I said what I did the size of that fucking thing the picture that thing Look at the picture of that thing next to a person. Joe, Joe, that is... Fucking A, man. That is cool as shit, right? I like how it's next to a soldier. It's like he came back to life.
Starting point is 01:40:30 What the fuck is that? They gotta fucking hunt them. They gotta hunt them, man. It's actually like one of the plastic army men. Look at the size of that goddamn thing. What the fuck? That was that big? How tall is that dude?
Starting point is 01:40:40 Is that Bobby Lee? Right. How tall is that dude? That's actually an army soldier from Toy Story. Six foot tall? Is that what it says How tall is that dude? It's actually an army soldier from Toy Story. Six foot tall? Is that what it says? Well, it represents the average person. Which I believe the average male in America is like 5'10". So think about
Starting point is 01:40:54 how god- Look how big it is! Next to a Volkswagen! What the fuck, man? Could you imagine you step out of your back porch and you see something bigger than a fucking moose and it's just a giant bird? It's predatory. And he owns a Volkswagen Beetle. What do they eat? What the fuck do they eat? Anything they want. Yeah, what do they eat?
Starting point is 01:41:17 I mean that must be a fucking Hungry bitch Look at the size of that thing. keep that much mass oh my god he says 180 kilograms which is what is that 400 pounds 300 something pounds 400 kilograms is 2.2 pounds per kilogram so 400 kilograms is more than 800 pounds it's a 8 8 right 8,000 pounds 8,000 pounds. 1,000 pounds. Yeah, for 400 kilograms. Somewhere around.
Starting point is 01:41:48 In the neighborhood, right? What the fuck? A 1,000 pound bird that just runs around biting people. And then this other thing is smaller, but it looks bigger. Why does it look bigger? But why is it, why do they... It's taller. It's taller.
Starting point is 01:42:03 Taller and thinner. But it doesn't have as much mass, okay? Well, I'm scared the one on the left now that fucking ruthless bitch Why is he so much heavier? He's one twice as heavy and the other ones taller and the one on the right if you looked at those you would say which one's Heavier probably the one on the right right I'm so more scared of the one on the right just because of its beak that yeah I'm pretty damaging the second third you know We're not a thing from Jurassic Park that one looks so predatory that the reason why it's so thin is because it eats so much
Starting point is 01:42:28 That it burns calories while it's eating It's killing you and burning your calories that constantly be in a state of murder just to fuel that fucking face You that thing growing off of its head? imagine You got a giant hatchet. Big bolt cutters. That murders. Look at that dude's belt. And you're nine feet tall.
Starting point is 01:42:51 And you weigh whatever it is. 300 pounds. 300 plus pounds. 360? What is that? What's 180? What's 180 kilograms? What the fuck? 500 fucking pounds bird biting you look in its eyes no mercy nothing that's where some big emotions just dead like you're looking into a mirror just dead as it's eating your asshole alerts its babies that it found one. Why is it eating your asshole? Because they do. Animals start asshole first.
Starting point is 01:43:28 You know that as much as I do, right? Eyes, tongue, asshole. They start with your asshole. That's one of the things that coyotes do that's so horrific. When you find deer that are still half alive, their bottom end is eaten away. They eat their asshole and their legs, and oftentimes they're still alive.
Starting point is 01:43:44 They think there might be some like advantages to killing animals that way and keeping them alive because it preserves the meat for a little bit longer than if they just went right to the neck. Because like this guy that I was up in BC with, he was a moose hunter, so they came across this moose that had been alive for days and these wolves were eating it for days. It was still alive and they would just eat its legs There was just tearing at its asshole And they were eating its back legs and the moose couldn't get up it could get away They were here keeping it there, but like half of his back end was gone, and he was still alive
Starting point is 01:44:17 Fuck nature you scary bitch scary as fuck you scary bitch nature and there you are Scary bitch. That's scary as fuck. You scary bitch, nature. And there you are, sleeping in trees. Sleeping in the middle of it. And there was a deer that happened to in India when we were there. The local dogs had taken it.
Starting point is 01:44:37 All they did was they broke its hind legs, and then they backed off and they let it sit there. Oh, my God. It had two broken back legs, and we just looked at it. It's like, oh, man, oh, man. And they just started eating it. You know the dogs are going to either rip it apart that night, or tigers are going to come down and take it or the leopards. Woo! So, yeah, I'm still out there doing them. I'm still out there sleeping in those places.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Why are you still doing this? Because you don't have to still do this. You can do anything you want now. I'm actually in a better mood doing it now than I was a couple of years ago. I'm kind of enjoying it. I came back on this season like a swan song. Like, let's have some fun. Let's enjoy this.
Starting point is 01:45:04 I'm going to cool places. Mongolia. What are you going to do in Mongolia? Survivor, man. Tonga, India. Some beautiful, amazing places. Have you seen that new tribe that they found in Mongolia that rides on caribou? They have, like, tame caribou and they ride
Starting point is 01:45:20 them around. It's crazy. They use animals to hunt. They've trained wolves and they've trained eagles to hunt for them. You know, they've known that they've been able to do that for a while, like train golden eagles to like take out smaller animals. They take out deer. But this tribe, they have domesticated caribou. They've domesticated reindeer.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Yep. And they're on target. They've been around for a while. It's wild, man. They ride them around like they're horses. It's like, and that's in mongolia yeah great that's a crazy part of the world man yeah that's why i'm really enjoying this season i'm going places i haven't been before is it like there's a guy look at that that's our woman i believe look at that she's riding a caribou like it's a fucking horse is it welcome like like you're doing one thing that it's a fucking horse. Is it welcome? Like, like you're doing one thing that it's like, man, am I wasting my time?
Starting point is 01:46:08 Like, what is this? Like what? I can need to see something. But the other hand, if you did find something, if you were up there and you got great footage of this fucking big monkey bounding between two or three trees just looking at you and saying fuck he got me holy shit if we were like we weren't crazy these 200 different native american names for this animal wasn't crazy people want to know that that thing's real or that isn't real like i fuck around and i joke around about it not being real but the reality is i don't fucking know we really don't know there's there's too many people that have said that there's something up there.
Starting point is 01:46:48 It doesn't mean that there's something up there. It means the woods are scary. They're dense. It gets dark out. People make shit up. People know that other people made shit up. They hear their stories. They think, what if they're real?
Starting point is 01:46:58 I think I might have saw it too. And then it builds up in your mind. That's possible too. But it's also possible there's a giant undiscovered primate. If anybody catches it, I hope it's you. I'll let you know. Not Dean Cain. Bring it in first.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Let's mix Loch Ness with Bigfoot. What if Bigfoot lived underwater and that's where he hid out and then he like... There's no water up there. That's a stupid idea. Shot down in flames that doesn't work it's not like he lives
Starting point is 01:47:27 near a lake if they did you know what they they believe on that show River Monsters you know that River Monsters show
Starting point is 01:47:33 they think they figured out what the Lake Champlain monster is they think it's a sturgeon enormous sturgeon because apparently there are sturgeons there and they've caught sturgeons
Starting point is 01:47:43 and sturgeons get enormous huge enormous caught sturgeons. And sturgeons get enormous. Huge, yeah. Enormous. Have you ever seen a sturgeon? No. Oh, my God. I saw one in real life the other day. I saw one in Mexico that someone had caught.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Fuck, dude. That's a big goddamn fish. The one I saw was small, but they had him on the show. That Jeremy, whatever his name is, that gentleman who runs River Monsters, that goes fishing, that guy's legit, right? Yeah. He doesn't seem to have any fuckery on his shows. He was in Lake Champlain and they had a photo
Starting point is 01:48:11 of this thing from overhead and it looked exactly like a giant sturgeon. You're talking like a 16 foot long sturgeon. They really get that big. They do. Sturgeons. And they look like a dinosaur. Prehistoric animal. That's a sturgeon. Okayoric animal. That's a sturgeon. Okay, yes.
Starting point is 01:48:27 That's a pretty big one. See, look at that. That's a Lake Champlain sturgeon. So someone caught that in Lake Champlain. I believe that's what that's saying. Is that what that's saying? And they get way bigger. Is that what it's saying?
Starting point is 01:48:37 That's what all these are supposed to be. Okay, so these are absolutely real sturgeon they've caught in Lake Champlain. And there's one that big. I mean, that's probably like five feet long, something like that, that one. Maybe the other one was a little bit bigger. But they believe that there's some enormous ones in there. And I think that that river monster's guy,
Starting point is 01:48:53 look at that one that that guy's got in his arm. Look at that one right there. That's not a sturgeon. That's a pike. The one next to it. The one right next to it, if you go down. Look at that. That's a big fucking fish, man.
Starting point is 01:49:06 That's a big fish. That's like a big fish that's like a person it's a person fish but the uh the the really big ones if you take a photo of giant sturgeon or uh google giant sturgeon and you'll get an image of what they look like at their very biggest 16 feet long yeah they're an enormous prehistoric fish the only like the gar is the only one that's creepier. The alligator gar. Gar's are creepy, aren't they? God, they're creepy. I've always thought that.
Starting point is 01:49:30 They have, like, armor. Their body's covered in armor. Look at that. Look at the fucking size of that thing. Holy shit. That's a painting. Is it? It looks like a painting to me.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Does your dick ever fall asleep on these chairs? Does that look real? Your dick's asleep? Your dick's checked out dude It's tired of what you've been doing to it It's like we're done dude, we're going numb Next thing you know we're going to tie ourselves in a knot And hang ourselves while you're sleeping Is that the biggest one you could find?
Starting point is 01:49:59 Oh my god Look at that Oh my god, look at that thing It's huge Holy fuck What is that? 10 feet long? That's probably 10 feet long, right?
Starting point is 01:50:11 Less if you had to guess 9 Look at these conservative Love them Yeah, fucking Christ 78 years old He catches a huge 350 pound sturgeon
Starting point is 01:50:24 In British Columbia That's where he was god look at that goddamn thing so heavy it towed his boat for a half an hour oh my god before the pensioner was able to pull hey he's a guy leave him alone just because he's old you got to pull out the fact he's on his pension just Fuck off. Try to diminish the man's achievement. Starbucks. What'd you say? Starbucks? That's his last name. Is that his last name?
Starting point is 01:50:52 Yeah, he created Starbucks. Mr. Starbuck. Look at the size of that thing. So those alligator guards pull up a giant alligator guard. I think these are even more creepy. Because sturgeons, I don't think they eat much meat. They eat like little fish and whatever. They suck off the bottom, right?
Starting point is 01:51:08 Isn't that the deal with them? They're the bottom feeders. Bottom feeders. But alligator gars, they look way more predatory. Look at that picture of the mouth down there. Fuck. There's one above that, Jamie. Or where was it?
Starting point is 01:51:21 Go back to those other images. There's one, no, there was a better one. The guy had his mouth wide open where you can get a good look. That one right there. Right there, yeah. It's an actual alligator? Oh. What the fuck, man? Look at that thing!
Starting point is 01:51:38 Oh my god, that's a Florida Gar. How is that a real animal? That thing looks so crazy That's prehistoric Let me see the alligator right next to it The one that we thought was it See it right in the images down there
Starting point is 01:51:51 In the lower right hand side Related images Yeah right there Bam That's a cigar That's what I was thinking it was Let me just go to that image Oh my god
Starting point is 01:52:00 Look at the size of that thing Most people don't even know what this is Most people have no idea what a gar is if you brought that's a sturgeon If you brought that up to them They'd be like what go back that one where they see the guys the jaw where we thought it was an alligator the middle of The bottom yeah look at that go to the full image of that Let's end with this fucking The world is filled with mystery ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 01:52:23 Don't be so quick to say that Sasquatch isn't real when that fucking thing's swimming around. Have you seen the penis snake yet? What is the penis snake? They just found this snake that's called the Arathochonia. But if you just type in penis snake, it's a snake from Brazil, I believe. It looks like a penis? Yeah, it looks like a big, hard, or long penis. How about those fucking things in the Amazon where those guys pee in the water?
Starting point is 01:52:47 They have to cup their hand over their dick because there's fish that'll fly right up your urethra. Catfish. Yeah, this one right here. Look at that. That's a dick. Big black one, too. Yeah, that's a nice one. That's a nice cut.
Starting point is 01:53:00 Yeah, it's a cut dick. It's a nice cut. Or it's got the helmet cover on. It's ready to bust out. It's got a very long fore. It's ready to bust out. It's got a very long foreskin. Could be, right? Like it's all tied up in a knot in the top.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Look at those wrinkles. I mean, that looks like a dick right there. That's like balls of dick. That's not what my dick looks like. If your dick looks like you need to go to a doctor immediately, your dick's dehydrated, it's probably dead. I mean, like when I have a sick dick. Do you have a lot of sick dick days? No.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Once in a while, I do have a sick dick. How many days do you allow yourself a year? How many sick dick days? One every, I mean, like, sick dick. I'm going to have a sick dick. Do you have a lot of sick dick days? No. Once in a while, I do have a sick dick. How many days do you allow yourself a year? How many sick dick days? One every, I don't know, four months, I allow a good sick dick. I'm going to send one of these photos to a girl to see if she thinks it's a dick. Like, dick dick. The kind of chicks you're dating? I bet you tell them it was fucking a dick in Narnia.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Just make it black and white. It's a dick on dick on the moon look we got a picture from the rover It's a Mordor dick come on side As do you see that Scientology documentary these people out there that'll believe anything yeah You see that going so bits of that yeah, I've read part of the book. I didn't see the documentary yet, but I heard it's amazing Is there any correlation between the belief in Xenu and the belief in Sasquatch? It's got to be very similar There is a little bit of this need for this fucking thing to be real that clouds the judgment and I applaud the fact that you went into this as
Starting point is 01:54:18 Objectively as a unique individual as you could it's no you know no one is completely objective I think we all strive to be especially if you're really trying to give a good audit of your life and trying to figure out how you're running things how objective am i being about this goddamn bigfoot thing you know it's tricky you've got invested in it you know you're out there it would suck if it wasn't real and you've been out there what how many times now not to me at all but at this point i've been this is uh eight eight shows nine nine shows i still go out the same way it's like bring it show me bring it bring it on that guy that you're with you said you had issues with him uh well there's a whole bunch of different
Starting point is 01:54:56 people that i go out there with now no i don't i don't have any issues with todd everybody else i don't know everybody else does yeah so is it possible that what we're looking at right there actually was a Bigfoot? I don't know. I haven't got a clue. If you had to put all your money, if you got all your cash. No matter what, and knowing him and knowing that stuff, I still sit with 50-50 on it. It's just like, could be or couldn't be.
Starting point is 01:55:21 L-O-L. Ah, because you're 99.9. I'm 100. I'm 100. You're 100%. That's a fucking fake. Yeah, I know. Why is it just sitting there?
Starting point is 01:55:31 Why everybody else that even claims to have seen one says they fucking bolt. Yeah, winks. Go back to the blink again. I see the blink. Winked. That's how a person winks. Watch. That looks so fake.
Starting point is 01:55:41 My God. And what's the smash cut from there to there? What happened there? There should be music playing when that's on. Have you tried to get that guy to take a polygraph test? No, that's not a bad idea. What the fuck, dude? What, am I going to have to fake this whole thing out for you?
Starting point is 01:55:59 I need to be a secret producer on your show. I called you, man. You're busy. You wouldn't want me on the show. You're busy. Shit would go one episode with me. I'd be like, this guy's full of shit, Les. We're out in the woods with a bullshit artist.
Starting point is 01:56:12 That's what we should do. You guys are bullshit artists. Come on, son. Take this polygraph test. You be the skeptic. I'll be the open guy. I'm okay. And you could just do that every show.
Starting point is 01:56:21 I'm going to be both be the skeptic. Let's be done with this. That's true. Well, I still stay the skeptic. See, this is, I that every show. I'm going to be both be the skeptic. Let's be done with this. That's true. Well, I still stay the skeptic. See, this is, I watch the show. First of all, I think that the area where you're at is so remote. It's incredible. I mean, it's an incredible piece of wilderness.
Starting point is 01:56:36 And one of the things that when we went Bigfoot hunting for that sci-fi show, this guy told us, he was a really cool guy. He goes, look, even if there is no Bigfoot, we're still camping. We're still out here camping. We're having a good time. We're enjoying. It's the best part. And he really did feel that way. The guy was not bullshitting.
Starting point is 01:56:51 So that area, like, there's nothing lost in exploring that area. I said that on the show. I said, you know what? Let's look at it this way. Let's say they don't exist at all. Worst case scenario, I get an awesome night in my tent on the edge of a lake, and it's beautiful. And you are experiencing this intense, wild nature, which makes you
Starting point is 01:57:09 feel like really connected to life. That's the thing about when you're in those woods, and you're in those remote areas, you must feel intensely connected to life. Yeah, I do, for sure. In a weird way that you don't Reconnected. Reconnected. Is that the way to describe it? I would think reconnected, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:26 In a way you're never going to get in a city. That's right. It's a different experience. Like, you feel different. You feel different when you're, like, so attached to the nature that's around you. You are immersed in it. You're a part of it. When you're in the woods, the woods doesn't give a fuck about your 401k plan
Starting point is 01:57:46 It doesn't give a fuck if you have your insurance card in your glove compartment It doesn't give a fuck if your left tire is starting to run low. It doesn't give a fuck Nature doesn't give a fuck about any of the variables that you present. It's like this is what we have to offer It's a wild shootout It's a wild shootout between predators and prey, and there's limited food supply, and there's a bunch of animals darting around left and right and shitting in the woods. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Good luck. That's what you feel when you're out there. You feel this like, wow, maybe the stock market really isn't like the epicenter of the universe. Maybe it doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of the universe whether or not I owe money on my student loans. Maybe it doesn't really matter if the greater scheme of the universe whether or not i owe money on my student loans maybe it doesn't really matter if i'm in credit card debt and my wife is banging her trainer maybe it doesn't matter that's why it's gonna go out to the bush when you're yeah
Starting point is 01:58:34 when you're out there it puts the whole ball of wax like you might be completely wrapped up in your own weird thing to the point where you don't recognize the fact that you're a part of nature you're not you just removed because you have walls you have electricity and you have a hat on but you're a part of nature an unavoidable part of it you're in there you're in it so even if bigfoot's bullshit there's still something that nature is so wild that the possibility of Bigfoot isn't outside of the realm of what you would consider to have a potential reality to it. It's not outside of it. It's in the realm. Bingo.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Survivor Man, Bigfoot. Tune in. If you do find something, would you please bring it to us immediately? Can we get a scoop? Okay, you got a scoop. For would you please bring it to us immediately can we get a scoop okay? You got this good for real for real Snapchat us Exchange our snapchats, and yeah, it'll be like what you sent me today you fuck He sends me this fucking thing. Oh, it's great horrible. This is the type of person here
Starting point is 01:59:40 he sends me this This text message that Isis has closed down the 405. Let's see if it affects any of the areas where you live. Click this link. Oh, okay. It's for a map of it. Yeah. And here's the, here I click the link.
Starting point is 01:59:56 And, oh, look. Yeah. Look at that. There you go, Jamie. It's a serious April Fool's. It's a thick one. Yeah, I was in the airport in Mexico. And I was like, you motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:00:06 I paid Verizon Romy Data for that. $40 to see some black dick. I don't think it was that much. You know. They likely didn't throw you in jail for that. Mexico? Mexico. They're nice people.
Starting point is 02:00:18 They're not so uptight. That's a fucking great part of the world. If it wasn't for all the drug war shit and all the bullshit, like Mexican people are the nicest fucking people. They're there. That's a fucking great part of the world If it wasn't for all the drug war shit and all the bullshit like Mexican people are the nicest fucking people They're so nice and if I had like one food to choose from to the day I die it would be a tough call between Italian food and Mexican food crazy really What do you think Italian a hundred percent you're a pasta eater right? No no no I? Rarely eat pasta, but I also know that Mexican food is just like three ingredients. You know, it's just everything's the same.
Starting point is 02:00:50 It's bean or tortilla. No, no, no. You got to eat it. No, you get a real Mexican joint. Like you have, like they do the best skirt steak in the world. Like the best like skirt steak you get in Mexican restaurants. Where they marinate it and they, God damn, man. There's a lot of Mexican dishes where they do it correctly.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Like, we had some fish in Mexico. Like, fresh-caught snapper. Like, oh-ho-ho. They have the best... They invented ceviche. They invented cooking things in lime juice. You have, like, really good ceviche from fresh fish. Oh, it's unbelievably delicious.
Starting point is 02:01:23 With a little bit of lime, some cilantro unbelievably delicious. A little bit of lime, some cilantro in there, a little bit of onions, tomatoes. Is pizza a part of this? Because pizza is doughy. The problem with me and pizza... And wasn't pizza invented by the Chinese anyway?
Starting point is 02:01:36 Whatever it is, bro. We took it, we made it a little bit better. You know what I'm saying? They made the noodle, we took it, we put a little pasta sauce on that. I don't know, man. I'm not an aficionado in the fucking history of gluten.
Starting point is 02:01:47 But I do know that when I eat too much of it, it fucks me up. It's just your body converts it to sugar. Like all that, you're eating a bowl of sugar. When you're eating a bowl of pasta, you're eating a bowl of white flour. You're eating a bowl of sugar. I mean, that's really what your body thinks it is. You get this crazy insulin fucking thing happening. Your body's like, what is all this fucking shit?
Starting point is 02:02:06 You don't get that if you just eat like vegetables and meats and even beans don't give you that spike the same way that those pasta dishes and heavy, heavy bread dishes, they're just not good for you, man. They're just not. They taste fucking amazing.
Starting point is 02:02:22 You know, like a good lasagna. Oh, Christ. That belly-stretching feeling when you know you've eaten something virtually indigestible. But it's awesome. Tour of Italy. I'm sure. It's great. I'm sure.
Starting point is 02:02:35 You know, and I would love to know what pasta was like before they started monkeying around with wheat. Because they think that, like, somewhere around the early 1900s, they started, like, doing something to wheat to make it more durable, to make greater yields, and to make it be a little bit more hardy. And they just changed the way wheat grows. They changed the actual consistency of the plant. And from then on, it became, like, harder and harder for people to digest it, apparently. That's the idea. From then on, it became like harder and harder for people to digest it, apparently. That's the idea.
Starting point is 02:03:11 And then the other idea is that these processed flours, it's just your body's just not, that's not how it's supposed to be eaten. Your body doesn't know what to do with that. It's like, what the fuck is this? Like, eat a bowl of sugar. Like, if you had some sugar and you put, that doesn't exist in nature. In nature, sugar comes attached to fiber. It comes attached to vitamins. It's like a reward for eating fruit.
Starting point is 02:03:25 Like, you eat oranges. It tastes delicious. You're getting that sugar. But you're also getting vitamin C. You're getting all that fiber. It's like a trick to get you to eat something delicious so that you will shit out the seeds and fertilize those seeds. Like, nature's got a whole system set up. It doesn't exist with a bowl of sugar.
Starting point is 02:03:43 You pour a bowl of sugar on your fucking Frosted Flakes. Like, that's something that doesn't exist in nature tell me you didn't do that did you ever have frosted flakes and you poured sugar on top of them like double frost them bitches i never did that it sounds great though delicious it's delicious you know the edge of darkness double frost and frosted flakes you fucking suck this sugar you suck spoonfuls it. Then you drink the milk. It tastes like C2O coconut water. Nope. It's better.
Starting point is 02:04:09 It's better. Frosted flake milk might be the best thing ever. Fuck champagne. It's just liquid sugar. How much are you paying for that Cabernet Sauvignon? Frosted flakes milk. Goddamn frosted flakes milk. Put that shit in. If you were in the mood for frosted flakes milk
Starting point is 02:04:26 at the end of a bowl of frosted flakes that you double sugared and someone ordered you a glass of Cabernet, you'd be like, get that sloppy, nasty, bitter shit out of my face. I'm about to feast on some frosted flakes milk. Raisin bran with sugar. What do you think Bigfoot eats? It's got to be eating a lot. He's pretty big.
Starting point is 02:04:54 If you had to guess. Elk. Elk. Mushrooms. What do they say? They say elk, mushrooms, berries, roots, tubers, shoots, grasses, deer. But if it was elk, wouldn't you find like a carcass? We found a moose carcass.
Starting point is 02:05:12 It was up in BC. They'd been killed by wolves. Oh, no. These researchers say they do find them. Really? Yeah. These researchers? Yeah. Like the ones who wear rubber suits?
Starting point is 02:05:20 What else do you think I got to go on? It's just people who are into the subject matter. Right. Do they take photos of these carcasses? They have photos? They put them on there? Now they're taking photos and they're measuring them. They're doing everything scientifically now.
Starting point is 02:05:31 But if you found a carcass, right, you'd probably be able to get some DNA off that. If something was pre-announced. Depends on how old it is. You already said yourself, the DNA thing is pretty unstable. Right. Out of all those sources, of all the different people that are quote-unquote researchers what do you think is the most credible organization less Trout Bigfoot staff and crew survivor man Bigfoot yeah yeah credible yeah 4chan 4chan I read it whoever's got
Starting point is 02:06:03 nothing to whoever doesn't have a stake in it. Right, but doesn't everybody have a stake in it? If they really start, once you spend a night in the woods, you have a stake in it more than the guy who watches it on TV and goes, bitch, you have more of a stake. That's an emotional stake. I'm talking about a financial stake. Well, you have a financial stake, too, because it's not free to go live in the woods. If you do, you you got to eat food that You but have to buy you have to make sure that you're not working back in the city and earning money
Starting point is 02:06:29 So it'll cost you money in that regard you have to have gear which cost are you talking about you have to have camping gear? Yeah, okay What the fuck's that got to do? Steak you you spent you spent your time which is money Yeah time equals money to most people and you you put that you've taken that you've invested So there's a stake. You spent your time, which is money. Yeah. Time equals money to most people. And you put that, there's a stake in that. You've invested your sanity. I mean, if you're out for profit.
Starting point is 02:06:51 If you're out for profit. Okay. Those guys are suspect, right? They gotta be suspect. Of course. They have to be. Because if you're a normal human being, you're going to have a bias. If that's how you feed yourself.
Starting point is 02:07:04 Like the finding bigfoot folks like if you really got those dudes high on peyote and told them to tell the real truth about every episode like that's a good idea when you were hooting you knew that bobo was hooting back right right but when the camera was on and you had the night vision on, man, I heard it too. I heard it. I heard it for sure. Wow. What a night. We definitely got a call back.
Starting point is 02:07:31 Something called us back. It knocked wood. Who invented wood knocking? Who's that fuckhead? I wish I knew. Somebody just decided that they knock back, right? And knock him up with a piece of wood. Does anybody challenge that?
Starting point is 02:07:45 Is there two schools of thought when it comes to wood knocking? No, it just is what it is. Either do it or you don't. Some do, some don't. But do you think that Sasquatches whack sticks against trees? I don't know. All I know is they're talking about they hear sounds of sticks being whacked against trees. That's why they do it.
Starting point is 02:08:01 Yeah, one of the guys when we were in Pacific Northwest, he was very skeptical about the wood knocking. i'm not buying it there's like different camps guys like well that's what i said yeah it's that scale of believability and they're all infighting with because everybody wants to be able to say i'm the one who figured it out i got the film footage i guess like is there a michael jordan of bigfoot researchers is there one dude that everybody bows down to the one of the hicks and gracie of bigfoot researchers there's gotta be i don't know are you a knocker yeah are you a knocker are you a hooter or a hooper are you hoop what do you think about that samurai chatter?
Starting point is 02:08:45 You ever heard that? Mm-mm. You never heard samurai chatter? Samurai chatter was a guy, I want to say it was like from the 1970s, who recorded some vocalizations that sound like, and he claimed that these were Bigfoot. You never looked into this? No, no, I haven't heard that one. Yeah, we had a sound expert
Starting point is 02:09:10 Analyze these for that sci-fi show to me It sounds like total horseshit and he's like a human voice can't make that noise. I'm like yes, I can okay here I'll do it Okay, I just did it like don't say a person can't make that this is a recording recordings especially from like 1970s equipment, when you're in the woods, like field equipment, like, you're not getting an absolute exact representation of the sound that you're recording. You're getting some sort of whatever the gear is capable of picking up. Like, a really good microphone, like these microphones, these Shores, right? What are these things?
Starting point is 02:09:43 Yeah. These are, like like a really good microphone this is about as close to a rep like when you hear yourself on a podcast you go that's definitely me that sounds exactly like me but this is a recording of you like it's not you it's taking you and it's recording the best possible version of your voice it can it's not you talking again so when you're hearing you're hearing a machine that has picked up some sound that you made and it's put this down as best it could in 1978 or whatever the fuck it is. But it's not going to be exact. It's just not. So when
Starting point is 02:10:20 anybody says a human being can't even make that sound, you're right. It has to be a tape recorder. That's what makes that sound. It has to record it from a human being. But once you go through that, you're in some gray area. Who knows what it could sound like? Who you want? Do you find it? Did you find it?
Starting point is 02:10:38 Samurai Chatter. Find this. Samurai Chatter, Bigfoot sounds. You're going to howl. So the sound expert, what's that? Part-time sale? Is that Best Buy? No, he is a earbud aficionado.
Starting point is 02:10:50 Oh, so he has a pair of Beats headphones? Well, he has the Beats Studio Pros. Oh, yeah, the Bluetooth ones. He gets the Bluetooth ones where the guy, I'm the man, I'm the man, that kind. He's got the kind that awkwardly hook around the back of your ear when the ear buds. No, he was a real sound expert. He was a, and he also was like, uh, he was in the Navy. Like he deciphered languages in the Navy.
Starting point is 02:11:20 First of all, I don't trust this British fuck. Reminds me of Johnny Appleseed. Yeah. Johnny Appleseed. Absolutely bizarre noises. Johnny Appleseed. I couldn't figure out what the hell it was. And so they took up a tape recorder one time. And this is what they recorded.
Starting point is 02:11:45 It is very bizarre indeed. How many rubber bands do you think that guy has around his balls while he's making that noise? Sounds like an open mic comic. We decided to record the sounds. Oh, thank you. Put them on a CD and a cassette and make them available to people. See, this is a part of the problem we're dealing with in the Bigfoot community, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:17 That kind of shit. That kind of shit. Yep, exactly. And when you hear stuff like that, what do you think that is? I've got a clue. Like you say, I mean, that could have been easily recorded by anybody What do you think it was Brian totally somebody just doing those noises of course? And it's this just sounded like an idiot doing it like you could picture that person what they're doing making those noises Like what like an idiot. I'm offended by a skepticism
Starting point is 02:12:40 What if it's not them What if it wasn't? Well listen, I wasn't a human? Well, listen, I... If it wasn't a human, then what was it? While we were filming the show, and I went over this, these are some things I considered. And one time when we were at the Ice House, we got so high that I believed the Patterson footage was real
Starting point is 02:12:58 for a few seconds. I was like, what if I'm an asshole? And what if this whole time that is a real Bigfoot and I just been mocking it Mmm, I was so high and then I came down. I was like bitch. That's a guy in a monkey suit Look at that fucking stupid thing. It's so odd It's if it looks like someone in a monkey suit Most likely it's someone in a monkey suit when you look at a giraffe you never go Oh, that looks like a person in a fucking giraffe outfit
Starting point is 02:13:23 No, they look like giraffes like they have a very giraffe like way of walking that stupid fucking thing walks like a person But I might be wrong What do you think about that? We think about the Patterson? I haven't explored it enough. I don't know I think be cool. I think be cool if you were wrong. How could you be possible? You you have really haven haven't looked into this? You haven't looked into all the various... I sat with the guy who was there. Which guy? Gimlin?
Starting point is 02:13:49 Bob Gimlin. Yeah? What did he say? I just didn't smell bullshit on him when he was talking. Right. It sounded like he was just talking right from his heart, like, this is what I saw. Nobody ever accused Gimlin of being a part of it, though, right? nobody ever accused Gimlin of being a part of it though right they accused
Starting point is 02:14:05 Roger Patterson the guy who filmed it who went to jail for writing a bad check to pay for the very camera he used to film Bigfoot known con man and then there was the other guy and then there was the other guy who said he was in the suit what was his name
Starting point is 02:14:20 Bob uh he was also proven to be bullshitting no way that's the problem Hieronymus Bob Hieronymus What was his name? Bob, uh... He was also proven to be bullshitting. No way. That's what I mean. Bullshitters are bullshitting? Yeah, that's the problem. Hieronymus. Bob Hieronymus.
Starting point is 02:14:29 Yeah, I remembered. Who was a big guy who walked a lot like Bigfoot. Like, there's this video footage, a montage of Bob Hieronymus next to the Patterson footage, and he walks just like it. Nailed it. You ever seen that? No. Yeah, he's a big, gangly-looking cowboy motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:14:47 One of those dudes who has those giant belt buckles, and it looks normal on him. You know those certain dudes, you see him with a giant, like, rodeo belt buckle, you go, yeah, okay, that's what he would wear. You can pull it off. There, look at this. Look at this guy. Hilarious. All right.
Starting point is 02:15:02 I mean, come on. All right, all right. That's him. That's Bob Hieronymus. I mean, that is Bob Hieronymus, and that is the Bigfoot thing behind him. I mean, Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's ridiculous. It's him.
Starting point is 02:15:13 I mean, fucking get out of here. That's that dude. That's hilarious. Yeah, he's just got some. I've never seen that before. That's fucking hilarious. Yeah, he's just got some gorilla arms that are, like, extra long at the end. You know, he's got some fake hand.
Starting point is 02:15:26 Had some fake fur thing on. Or it's a female Sasquatch. What do you think? It had titties. Okay, if you had to push all your chips, you got all your money here. Where are we going to go here, Les? What are we going to do? Are we going all in on yes, it's Bigfoot? Or all in on Bob. Hieronymus is telling the truth all in on I don't gamble
Starting point is 02:15:49 That's why I'm going out there. You don't gamble at all. I don't gamble. I can't get more shit Come on, son a little bit of roulette. No, I bet on fights would have George I bet I was fighting I did I bet my one strong Canadian. Yeah, you bet so you bet so this is like a educated guess as well Okay, how about this? How about this? Forget all in. Okay. Let's make it 50 bucks.
Starting point is 02:16:09 Nothing crazy. Nothing crazy. Just bragging rights and 50 bucks. I'm going with it that there's something there. That thing? That video. Oh, you're talking about the video. Just the video?
Starting point is 02:16:22 That video. Oh, shit. I can't gamble on that because I just don't know enough. I am closing my eyes and pushing the whole bag of chips towards bullshit. I know you are. All the money in the world, bullshit. Wow, that's a strong word. He didn't even spell word.
Starting point is 02:16:37 Okay. World wrong. Right. I don't like gambling. And he doesn't like gambling. Unless it's no condiment. We're not trying to pitch on you. We're both covered.
Starting point is 02:16:44 Look, we're not trying to gang up on you. You're not ganging up on me, man. It seems like we're ganging up on you. No, you're not trying to pitch Both covered Look we're not trying to Gang up on you You're not ganging up on me man It seems like we're Ganging up on you No you're not Okay I know I'll take both your bets
Starting point is 02:16:50 Listen you know I love you I'll take both I want you to be successful I'll take both your bets Out of all these assholes This guy that finds This fucking This pretends he has
Starting point is 02:16:59 Bigfoot in his cooler That shithead Rick Dyer All these guys The guy who says He shot Bigfoot All these fucking guys Their stories are all very fantastical. That's why I just look them all straight in the face and go show me what you got
Starting point is 02:17:11 Oh, you think it's scary on the mountain over there, okay? Well, I'll stay out there tonight and see what happens if one fucking dude had it though Imagine one do it takes on footage. It takes one. It's all it takes one dude goddamn, son footage. That's it. That's all it takes. One dude. God damn, son. That would be the coolest shit ever. But why? That's what I want to know. Why would that be cooler than a tiger? Why would that be cooler than a killer whale? Why would that be cooler than a shoebill?
Starting point is 02:17:33 Because if it's there, we think it's a missing link. That's why. There's no missing link. It doesn't really work that way. That's like some archaic thinking. Right. Very non-scientific. And there's no archaic thinking going on in North America today. No, there's not. The Religious Freedom Act doesn't have anything to do with...
Starting point is 02:17:54 That's not what it's about, man. It's about Jesus. You don't even fucking know, man. It seems to be out of all the things that are like... All the mysteries, it's one of the most probable, which is one of the most exciting things about it. Like the Loch Ness Monster. Oh, man, what are the idea that some long-necked dinosaur thing
Starting point is 02:18:17 is living in the middle of a lake in Scotland? Fucking get out of here. I'm not buying in on that, you know? I believe that more than Bigfoot. Do you? Loch Ness, 100% more. See, I don't. I think that's way more unlikely.
Starting point is 02:18:32 It's way more unlikely that some sort of a cold-blooded reptile that's enormous, that lives in a loch, has gone undetected for this long with a breeding population. That's way too open. That's like, even if you do see, I mean, even if it is huge, huge it's still just water you can find you you would see more of them you know no i'm saying it did exist i don't think it exists anymore it exists yes well dude the gigantic epithet thing that did exist the difference between unicorns and leprechauns and the loch ness monster and bigfoot it's mushrooms bigfoot probably that's bigfoot leaks leaves tracks if you want to meet Leprechauns and the Loch Ness Monster. And Bigfoot. Mushrooms. Bigfoot, probably. Bigfoot leaves tracks.
Starting point is 02:19:07 If you want to meet the leprechauns, you can meet them. You just got to take enough mushrooms. You can meet leprechauns. You really can. If you eat the proper dosage of any really potent psychedelic mushroom, psychedelic DMT, anything that's a really intense transformative psychedelics you can see things that make gremlins seem totally normal I think that's the root of all that shit that's the root of all
Starting point is 02:19:35 those I mean this is all people that were eating plants that they didn't even know what the fuck they did they didn't understand the mechanisms behind them they had rituals around cultivating them and keeping them. That might be a part of the Bigfoot thing too, man. I mean, Bigfoot might not even be a real thing. It might be a real thing that you only can experience when you're having a psychedelic trip. Like the idea of Bigfoot in a physical sense, it might not even be real. It might be something that when you eat enough psychedelics, it tunes into some part of your memory that recreates this thing that lived a long time ago.
Starting point is 02:20:13 Best question asked about Bigfoot's not what it is, it's why. Why is it even there at all? No, the best question is where is it? Where the fuck is it? Where the fuck is it? You're looking for it, you're asking the wrong questions. That's what's wrong, man. Okay, this is like almost two hours.
Starting point is 02:20:27 I'm tapping out. It's more than two hours. It's almost three. It's almost three. I'm tapping out. Okay, Survivor Man, Bigfoot. When is it airing? When can people watch it?
Starting point is 02:20:37 Discovery Channel, Science Channels, Wednesdays, Fridays. Even if you're a non-believer, ladies and gentlemen, I recommend three bong hits and some good friends, and you will enjoy this goddamn show. Les Stroud, you're a fucking man's man. I love you. I'm always happy to talk to you. Thanks, Brian.
Starting point is 02:20:54 I really do mean that. If there's a Sasquatch out there, I sincerely hope that you find it, and I sincerely hope there really is a Sasquatch. Wouldn't that be the coolest shit? Brian is out. No, I don't know. I I mean if there was a such thing as a Sasquatch I don't know if it was cool. I just be like there's a new monkey. I don't think it's No, I'll be cool. They're not be way cooler. What if it talked like a samurai if it talked like a All right one more time when when can people watch it what network
Starting point is 02:21:20 All right. One more time. When can people watch it? What network? Discovery Channel. Discovery Channel. Science Channel. Wednesdays, Fridays. Wednesdays and Fridays at what time?
Starting point is 02:21:30 Usually 10. Real Les Stroud on Twitter. Real Les Stroud on Instagram. Facebook, same thing. Facebook. Thank you, man. This was fun. Very impromptu.
Starting point is 02:21:40 We did it. At work, grab you from the comedy store. Yes. Yes. Perfect. All right. Good night, everybody. I know. We did it. At work, grab you from the comedy store. Yes. Yes. Perfect. Alright. Good night, everybody. See ya.

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