The Joe Rogan Experience - #671 - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

Episode Date: July 9, 2015

Brendan Schaub is a mixed martial artist and also a former college & pro football player. Bryan Callen is an actor and stand-up comedian. Together they host "The Fighter & The Kid" podcast available on Spotify.

I would argue and I agree and I think you'd end up just That's it. We're going live. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Ladies and motherfucking gentlemen Yeah, what's up boys? What's up, man? We're live. It's good. Now other people can hear all the shit. We've been saying right It's hard to make the transition. We're doing live. Fuck it. We'll do it live. We'll do it live. Fuck it. We'll do it live. To go from- Love that part. Yeah, that's- The best.

What was that hard copy or something like that he was on? Bill O'Reilly? You're just freaking out. That guy's such a blowhard. It's so amazing that that guy's popular. He's very- Not anymore, though, right? No, he's kind of dying down the path.

I don't know. Maybe with guys like you, but you weren't watching in the first place. If you're an old lady, if you're post-menopausal old lady- You're into Bill O', right? Yes. Yeah Yeah, no, he's very he's really easy like he creates He's like a sharp profile, right? So he when he'll he'll make the issues really cut and dry and really loud and here are the line goes in the tie goes out Yeah, explain that there you go. Yeah, I'm putting my money on God

I read two of his books and I read two of Ann Coulter's books to see what they were saying. It was really interesting because I know why they're popular. If you package something in terms of good guys, bad guys, or, you know, like he wrote a book called Who's Looking Out For You. It was kind of an interesting book about, and he was very real about saying, look, I run in a circle of people that are really wealthy and powerful. Guess what? They don't really care about you because that's how human beings are when they have a lot of stuff going on.

Isn't Donald Trump saying similar stuff? A little bit. Your boy Donald Trump's kind of flying off the hinges. Definitely not my boy. Well, yeah, he is. He's your best friend. I think he's just saying it for like X factor. You know what I'm saying?

Like he's just trying to stand out. He's wild as fuck. Yeah, he's an egomaniac. When my buddy Jimmy Burke met Donald Trump, he said, Donald, huge fan, huge fan of your buildings. I think your buildings are amazing, dude. And I love your tie. What did Donald say?

Donald just kind of looked at Teddy Demme at the time, who was the director of the late Teddy Demme, and just went, okay, thanks. He goes, but look at your tie. He kept saying your tie. It's like, you know, so many sponsors have dropped them. So many after you made those comments about Mexicans and rape. Yeah, he's an a-hole. He's retarded.

And Anderson Cooper was like, you know, financially, you know, how much money have you lost? He goes, I don't know. I'm rich. I really don't care. I just don't care. Merv Griffin, I did a show with him once, and Merv Griffin was insanely rich, as we know, and he also wrote, he was also an artist,

he wrote the theme song to Jeopardy and weird shit. You know who Merv Griffin is? You might be a little young. I don't know who he is. I know the theme. You just started the... He wrote the theme song to a bunch of different shows, and when you do that, it's a slick move.

You get paid every time it plays. That's dope. And there are a lot of examples of those kind of things that he did. He could play the piano and everything, but he was also a major mogul, like a tycoon. And wealthier than Donald Trump. And ferociously gay. Ferociously? Ferociously.

I met him. Yeah, so ferociously gay. I did a show with his company. Try grabbing your hug? No, no. Ferociously. I met him. Yeah, so ferociously gay. I did a show with his company. Try grabbing your hug? No, no, he was very friendly, but there's a look in his eyes like, the door's always open. Oh, dude. The door's always open.

Ferociously. 100%. He's just like a guy. I spent a week with him. Hold on. He stopped. We were in his beach house. Think about what I just said.

We were in his beach house. Were you wearing I just said. Were you wearing flip flops? Did he massage your feet? Honestly, I spent a lot of time blindfolded. I can't remember. I can't remember a lot of that. But he was like my dad and an uncle at the same time. Oh, Jesus. Bill Cosby was there.

Yeah. And I said, how do you run this empire? Because he's the one who found Ryan Seacrest and put him on. He owns all these companies. Did he really? Yes. On the radio. I did Ryan's show way back when he was on the radio.

Right. He still does radio. Yes, he does. Ryan Seacrest has $100 million. That motherfucker gets up every morning and does the radio from 6 to 9 a.m. Crazy work ethic. Crazy work ethic. If you listen to it, it's almost like they're not human yeah yeah

it's like the people that call aren't human and he's not human it's like a totally different species he's so non-threatening he's so exactly you know what's your favorite color he's another guy i like blue all right blue's great next caller what's your favorite color? It's so weird. There's no man in him. It's just all robot. Hey, it's Jamie from California. What's your favorite food? That's how it is, right? There's no man.

He's another guy I spent a week with. Always in a suit. What the fuck? When did you spend time with him? Ryan Seacrest. You spent weeks with him? Were you guys together? I worked sort of for him.

I did this TV show that I hosted. It was called Bank of Hollywood. I don't want to talk about it. Always in a suit. He was always in a suit. Expensive one, too, and it was called Bank of Hollywood. I don't want to talk about it. Always in a suit. He was always in a suit. Expensive one, too, right? Yes. He looked good.

He's a small guy, very small, about 135 pounds. 135? About. I did his show when he had a talk show. I didn't think he was that light. I think you're exaggerating. No. 5'7", 135, I'd give him.

Come on. I took him in. You know me. You did spend a week with him. You also know how I take a man in. I'll take a man in, visually and even physically. It's too much. Yeah.

I'm pretty good at that stuff. And he ended up, I said, it was interesting. 5'8". Yeah, there you go. Look at you. Look at you. I don't want to talk about that. Let's take that down.

He's 5'8". Wait, hey, Callan, you hosted a show, and what did... How was Ryan Seacrest not the host, and you were the host? Well, because he was producing it. And they paid me a lot of money for just to do, for one day to do four episodes, and I was like, all right, and then I had the option to get out, and then I called my agent, and I got a call. It didn't go well?

I didn't like what it was. What was it? It was people basically asking for money, and I was duped into thinking it was more going to be like a talk soup thing. And the minute I got there, they said, we want to turn it into more of a talk show. And I said, that's not what I do. I don't want to do that. Blah, blah, blah. A talk show. Yeah. They kind of hit me literally when I got there, I thought it was going to be like, I was going to be doing a lot of comedy, kind of a talk soup thing, making it funny. And that's how they

presented it to me. And that's how the audition was. And I got there and they, all of a sudden they go, we want you to wear a suit and just kind of read the teleprompter. And I went, not your style. Yeah. But I made a lot of money for they go, we want you to wear a suit and just kind of read the teleprompter. And I went, ah. Not your style. Yeah, but I made a lot of money for a day. And I tried to make a connection with Ryan Seacrest as a guy and he's just so professional. He's just kind of one of those guys where he went, I said, how you doing, man? He's like, you know, he had made $13 million a year.

He's a robot. I went, so what are you up to, man? You're single and stuff? He goes, having a lot of fun. Having a lot of fun. And that was all I could get out of him. There was no detail. He's always on. He wasn't willing to give it. I don't like those guys,

man. Not my type of dude. We may not know who he is. What's your favorite color, Brendan? I'm like, huh? It's just you and me, man. Who gives a fuck? Purple's a good color. I think you'd look good in purple. Okay, color number three. Like, what? My feet hurt. Well, feet can hurt. All right. It's so weird.

We're getting nowhere with this, is what I tell him. Well, you know what it is? He found a frequency. He found, like, there's a station on the dial that was available, and it's a low hum. And he's stuck there. And you're not gonna get any fucking craziness out of him. You're not gonna get any wife smacking.

You're not gonna get any fucking drunk driving. You're not gonna get any wife smacking. You're not gonna get any fucking drunk driving. You're not gonna get any heroin He's a robot. He's a robot. That's a great. How about you suck my dick? That's an amazing Amazing description. He found a frequency. Yeah, it's like And it's like hosting American Idol hosting like come on morning radio. All right, we're gonna give away a free donut All right, I love donuts to give away a free donut. Like a Casey Kasem thing. I love donuts. All right. I love donuts, too.

We'll take the next caller. It's like he's not a human. It's like the Truman Show where the rest of the world's like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. Tuesday. It's Tuesday. It's donut Tuesdays, everybody. Yeah.

He's an odd dude. But he used to be's Donut Tuesdays, everybody. Yeah, he's an odd dude. But he used to be more fuck-around-y on the radio. Yeah. When he used to do a radio show, I did his radio show way, way, way back in the day before he was famous. And he was more fuck-around-y. Sure. He was more controversial. But what happened was he hit the fucking motherload of money.

With American Idol. Yeah. Remember, it was two hosts. And I think one guy left and he stayed. And then American Idol blew up. Yeah, it was two hosts. And they got, I think one guy left and he stayed. And then American Idol blew up. Yeah, he's a monster. People like him and he works hard. Oh, he's a workhorse.

He has a persona now, right? Like you have a persona you got to keep all the time. He's that hum. Fuck that life, man. Nothing high, nothing low, nothing crazy. That's not a way to live. Well, not for me or you. Nah, can't be my friend.

You know what? Can't be my friend. If you don't have some live. Well, not for me or you. Nah, can't be my friend. You know what? Can't be my friend. If you don't have some chaos in you, I don't trust you. I need a little self-destruction, sir. You don't have nothing? I wonder why that is. Why do we look? My kindred spirits are dudes like that.

The minute I hear there's like a little fucking darkness, I'm like, well, there we go, sir. A little darkness, a little like a little fucking darkness i'm like well there we go sir a little darkness self-destruction yeah i mean it's one of the things that we hit off with right away i was like oh i could trust this guy yes like right away like he's just as retarded you could tell me anything i'd be like i understand of course anything like literally I gotta hide this body He uh My favorite color is red man It's fucking weird It's really in the red

There used to be this guy That used to go to the boxing gym That I worked out at And he was gay But he didn't want to admit he was gay And uh He would uh Tell us about stories

About girls And it was one of the most Bizarre things It was like man It was like uh On this dance floor man This girl came up to me And you know Just uh She totally started Making out with me And I was like, man, it was like on this dance floor, man, this girl came up to me and, you know, just totally started making out with me.

And I was like, hey, back off. Like, what the fuck? Just like, what? It's like, what? What? Interesting. What? What the fuck did you just say?

I remember in high school, there was this guy. This guy used to get a lot of girls in high school. I remember one time he said, I like to kiss girls. And then when they try to touch my chest, I say no. No, I'm not ready for that. Because if they do that to me, I do that to them. I remember when I was 18, I was like, you, sir, are the enemy!

You, sir, are ISIS. I can't speak to you anymore! You fucking liar! We were talking about there's some guys, especially foreign guys, I have a lot of friends from England, where you'll be like, yeah, I hooked up with this girl, man, she was a freak. to all of us it's like oh cool man we know what that means yeah the British guys like yeah what you do what exactly do what she like hey man she's a freak yeah so what would you start with making

out do you talk dirty yeah you guys you immediately start fucking you wear a condom I know condom what happens happens with the quiz? It's what you come did you come somewhere? Yeah? I'm boxing Jim would the way I described it is like like I don't know how to speak French But if you told me the word to say I could say them, but I didn't wouldn't know what the fuck I was saying yeah, great great way of describing a gay man trying to pretend he's straight I was saying all the stuff that you mean sorta Yeah, I was talking about being with a girl making making out. I was like, wait, what? It was all off.

It was like, parlez-vous français? What? It's off, man. Fuck you. I don't even know if you know what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, that's so true. The smell of her back, man. When my hand careens.

It's very important to be able to trust dudes. Well, we were talking about that one football player was on, what's that show we were talking about? Where they're like, what's the most attractive part of a woman and I've always thought this guy was gay and he's at the buzzer he's like her feet and everyone's like Before him was like then big ass titties for $3,000

That fat ass for $1,000 My answer would be I'd bang her if she didn't have feet It's not that important to me My girl could have talent I would have no idea I don't give a fuck Just cover them up with a cloth We'll figure it out

You could have hobbit feet How bizarre The whole crowd was like It just ruined the whole show We'll figure it out. You got it. You can have hooves have hobbit feet. I don't know bizarre their Damn it just ruined the whole show you're lying about your life On the feet I just fuck her and stare at her feet put him in my mouth Sometimes there's those pornos dudes are getting jacked up with their feet. It's weird, huh? Super common. My old girlfriend.

Super common. I had a girlfriend who told me that she just dated a guy who I knew who used to put her feet in his mouth when he was having sex. And I was like, always jealous. Oh, boy. I thought, maybe you like that, and that's the one thing I don't do for you. I never tried it, though. Wait, so you would put her foot in his mouth? Yeah, yeah.

That's not too weird. No, it's not. So she told you about that, though, like wanting you to do it? Well, my dick was in my hand. No, yeah. I don't know. So you were asking her about, like, shit she did with other dudes? Of course.

That's weird. I get deep into that stuff. I'm very curious. And I knew him. And she said that he would put his, he loved her feet, and he'd put her entire foot in his mouth. I was like, well, first of all, I don't think I could do that.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not deep throat. Wait, back to, back to Merv Griffin. Merv Griffin was in,

my friend went to have lunch at his house and he had just hot as shit. Young dudes serving all over his mansion. Just like the best looking side pieces. Smooth boys. Yeah. Just well the best looking, smooth boys. Just well-groomed, muscled, beautiful young men. If you're a young gay dude, that has to be the life. He was about 65 at the time. Well, young gay dudes, period.

There's something to be said for that life. Because first of all, they don't have kids unless they really want to. They have to go out of their way to have kids. So they have all this money, right? Because they have total disposable income. Most of them don't have dudes they have to take care of unless they're older guys that are hanging on

and they have these younger dudes that don't have any money. Liberace style, son. Exactly. They just drown. And there's guys. There's always that one couple of young guys. Take the car, you know? There's the keys. There's always the young twinks who are into older dudes. Oh, yeah.

Well, it's not that they're into older dudes. They're just not into working. Yeah. They're not into working, so they get plowed. You're going to work, Chuck. You're going to work. You're going to work this dick. You're going to work this dick.

You're going to work. It's not a nine to five, but you're clocking in on these nuts. You know what I'm saying? There will be some work this dick. You gonna work this dick. It's not a 9 to 5, but you clocking in on these nuts. You know what I'm saying? There will be some work. You're gonna get that work inside of you. You ain't just gonna be napping all the time, motherfucker. Wake up with these old balls in your face. Anytime they want, they have deals.

They have to. I don't want any lip, no back talk. Don't talk to me. I smack your face. When I want my dick sucked, this is no conversation. This is suck the dick. I heard of a girl. She was applying for a job out here at a doctor office. And it was like an assistant job.

And the doctor had in the contract that you have to give them a blow job a certain time during the day. That's some shit. Tight move, doc. That's some shit, though. Come on. In a contract? Contract. Written into the contract. That's some shit. Tight move, Doc. That's some shit, though. Come on. In a contract? Contract. Written into the contract. You know what? How could that be real? I don't know. Who knew it was this?

Very recent. No, that girl could sue that guy so easily. Yeah, maybe. Or you could suck that dick. I was going to say, that's a girl making a story up and she wants you to play doctor. She wants to play doctor with you, bro. Well, I had her sign the contract. It was me. It was me. I'm not a doctor. She wants to play doctor with you, bro. Well, I had her sign the contract.

It was me. It was me. I'm not a doctor. I had a white lab coat on. Yeah, I proclaim myself a doctor. I'm a doctor now. Every Friday at 3. I need a level of expertise.

I'm a doctor of D'Arce jokes. Shyness. It's so ridiculous, the idea that that could be true I mean it might be true I just don't imagine I don't think you can make that a contract A girl would like take a picture of that Maybe it's like a deal

But that's prostitution Okay I just don't think it's legal You don't think that's going down somewhere around here I don't think you're allowed to have a sexual contract That would be binding Because I think that it going down somewhere around here? I don't think you're allowed to have a sexual contract that would be binding. Yeah. Because I think that, like, it would be considered prostitution. You could hide it, though.

Maybe. Like the Patriot Act? Yeah. Just bury it deep in the claws somewhere. Buried deep where it says, uh, favors at 3 p.m. Oh, favors. Favors. Physical favors. Physical errands. I don't even think you could, like, put in a regular... I guess you could put in, like, you have to rub my back.

Yeah. Or you could just be like, hey, listen, everything looks good here. We agree on this. The deal is, you know, it's not in the contract, but Friday's at 3 o'clock. You need to suck this dick. Take a look at this. This is a woman alive

that wanted a guy to eat her pussy every Friday at 3 o'clock. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure there's some thirsty Is there a woman alive that wanted a guy to eat her pussy every Friday at 3 o'clock? Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure there's some thirsty doctors, female doctors. 49, right? Yeah. Divorced.

Yeah. Having nothing for like six months. Shit, if I didn't have this podcast, I thought I was going to have to start doing that shit. Yeah, I'll do it. Friday, 3? We'll suck at 3. We'll suck in the afternoon. I will suck your titties at 2 o'clock. But in the old days, I'm sure they had contracts like that.

But with all the laws against sexual harassment, I just highly doubt it. All those pesky laws now. Fucking laws. Fucking up everything, man. Back in the day. You signed the line. Just the idea that you would have that in a contract. Well, marriage is not binding.

You don't have to have sex in a marriage. You know, it's up to. It's given though, right? I don't know. Well, it's not though because we all know guys that don't do anything. They have a marriage with a woman. Yeah, they have a roommate and they take care of their kids together. Yeah, that's right.

We both know quite a few families like that. We'll get together, Brian and I will get together. What the fuck? Yeah. Because they'll tell you like we haven't had sex in a year we haven't had sex in two years my buddy amazing to me my buddy uh was poor most of his life okay i mean like the most he had ever made as an actor was like forty thousand dollars a year that was like his best year then he got a television show immediately after the television, his wife divorces him.

And now she wants for the next, because they had been married for ten years, she wants for the next five years, half of what he was making when he was on the television show in Alamo. First of all, everybody who, if you get a television show, if you're lucky as fuck,

it goes a year. If you're lucky as fuck. Save that money. If you're crazy lucky, it goes two years. If you hit lucky as fuck, it goes a year. If you're lucky as fuck. Save that money. If you're crazy lucky, it goes two years. If you get to a show that's on syndication, oh my God, how many people get to a show that's on syndication? Very few. Very few. She ignored all the years that they were together. All the years where they were together, he was struggling.

Like more than ten years. She ignored all those years. Ignored all those years. Concentrated only on the one year that he was on a sitcom and wanted half of that money So his Simpson ship me any had a kid we freaked the fuck so it was uh It was weird. It was very hard for him cuz you have to maintain that lifestyle right mm-hmm Yeah, well that's the idea yeah the idea that he was supposed to maintain her lifestyle, and he was Yeah, well that's the idea. Yeah, the idea that he was supposed to maintain her lifestyle and he was

He was really hard because he has a son and he loves his kid and he wasn't having sex with his wife He hadn't had sex with her for over a year. See that to me is already like There are so many people that ignore that major elephant in the room sex. Yeah, if you're married Are you trying to get me to cheat on you? Right? I mean if we're not having sex what do you think's gonna happen? Well that never is just like I know two people who are in marriages like that, and they don't really discuss that. And I'm always like, how are you living your life this way, man? Yeah, how are you? Well, it's the same guys, too.

Like, when I was back in Denver, my buddies, I was like, hey, let's go out. And they're like, oh, man, what should I tell my girl? I'm like, what? Tell her you're fucking going out, man. Like, I know, but we got to come up with a plan. I'm like, what's the fucking plan, man? i i know but we gotta come up with a plan i'm like what's the fucking plan man just tell them we're gonna go out yeah they're all like worried yeah it's the same guys man it's weird but you got me thinking about being an actor like you talk about if you had to just rely on fighting making a living i really feel that way about

acting like thank god for the podcast and stand-up i can't imagine having to worry about making my living as an actor. And guess what? I work as an actor. Well, it's also a confining thing with you. You're best. You're at your best on podcasts or doing stand-up because you're free. You could be you.

No one is ever going to write you correctly. They'll write a caricatured version that you'll do your best to try to spice up. But also, you need their approval. You need to be cast. You need to be a part of a cast of people. You need to get along with everybody. You've got to get to the set when they say. All those things are against what you are.

What you are is this weird free spirit who grew up all over the world. And you kind of were on your own a little bit too much. And so you made friends in weird ways. so you developed this crazy personality but it translates yeah as into funny it's a willy walker golden ticket yeah yeah so will you walk a golden ticket to funny but that that is this like it's like a side job and people get stuck in that side job did you go on auditions did you go on a bunch of auditions? I got a crazy story. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. No, this is a great story.

I just want to know auditions. I love this story. The only two auditions I ever went on when I first started doing the acting thing, I've got the TV shows. Yep. The only two I ever went on. A show called Hardball, got it. And then a show called News Radio, got it.

Those are the only two auditions I ever did. And you got both of them. I got both of them. How rare is that? It's impossible. You're betting a thousand. It's see ya. I have two shows that the only two auditions I ever did. And you got both of them. I got both of them. How rare is that? It's impossible. You're betting a thousand. It's see ya. I have two shows

that went to syndication. That's insane. That doesn't make any sense. Then he went on an audition and the director asked him to do it a different way and he goes, you can call me right after

and he goes, you know what? Nah. Well, Artie Lang was in the movie and that was the only reason why I was willing to do it in the first place.

I was going to do it with Artie and the guy goes alright I read it as you know prepared and then he goes okay. The director was a little annoying too Really pompous English guy and he goes Okay, what I want you to do now is you are trying to get him very interested in being married Okay, you're married and you're gonna write this down on a piece of paper. Here's a pen. Here's a marker.

And you're going to write, just married. And you're going to hold it up. You're trying to convince him that you want him to be married. I go, listen, first of all, I'm not acting. I'm not sitting here talking to Artie Lang, okay? I'm talking to a PA who could barely read. The dude barely could read. I mean, he was reading it like...

Like Floyd Mayweather? Do you think it's a good thing for us to be out like this at night? Fuck. Is it a good thing? Come on, man! We're gonna go have fun! So I'm supposed to be convincing this guy that marriage is the key to him. I want you to write just married on this piece of paper. fun you know so i'm supposed to be convincing this guy that marriage is the key to him you know i

want you to write just married on this piece of paper i go if we were on the set and you wanted me to help write your movie you wanted me to help make the movie better i would ad-lib a whole scene where i say just married i go but i'm i'm no i'm not going to do that not here we're in a conference room no i go this is a pa i go no i'm not going to do that. Not your stuff. Not here. I go, we're in a conference room. No one does this. I go, this is a PA. I go, no, I'm not going to do that. Like, this is, what the fuck are you trying to do? And then you just peaced out? Yeah, I said, I won't do this.

And I left. That was the last time you were out, did I think? No, I did Kevin James movies. But I only did them because I like Kevin. Right. But my agent called me up, you can't do that. I'm like, the guy's, fuck, what do you mean I can't do that? I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to do it. Don't tell me I can't do that.

I think you're one of the only guys who can pull that off. I couldn't pull it off. I didn't pull it off. I didn't get the role. I tanked out. Yeah, but that personality trait is what got you to where you're at. We're like, no, I'm not doing this. Maybe. Because there's a lot of guys who do that. It's hard to be an actor though with that personality trait because

what happens is it's such a collaborative effort. No, I knew I could see through the fucking looking glass that this was an unbelievable steaming log of a movie. It was a pile of shit. I felt it coming. I knew it was coming. Look, I had already done a bad sitcom when I did that hardball show. It was a bad sitcom. And it started off good but all these fucking other people got involved. And the original writers were really funny guys

that were on The Simpsons and Married With Children. But then they got all these fucking professional hack guys who make these hacky sitcoms. And they make jokes like they... They ruin it. They write jokes in. I've been there before, and it's hell. You would think it's like...

It's easier to work a job than it is to work a Show where like it could be funny and it turns out to be awful because you're so Conflicted as a comic when you know something is really bad. It's like it. I don't know funny You know like it's like it was different like getting paid to work at the fucking Lumberyard you know but carrying logs but it paid you 25 grand a week you'd be like oh well you know or a sitcom that pays you 25 grand a week but it's terrible i swear to god it's better to carry the logs fuck that because the logs don't make you

feel bad yeah after it's over you don't feel like you're selling your soul well you know when you when you key into that like i had a like i had to really have a talk with myself i i came out here to be an actor 20 years i studied it for years and and i you know blah blah i'm doing a show now i the other day and i i was talking to my mother and i said i've never been on a set as an actor where i wasn't looking forward to it being over. Like I was, yes. Now think about that. So I've been my whole life. I worked really hard at being an actor. I really did. Have I been successful? Moderately, but I worked hard at it and spent a lot of time in traffic going to auditions and spent a lot of anxiety trying

to get jobs. Sometimes I got them. Most of the time I didn't didn't but i even when i've landed big jobs i've never been on a set where i was where i couldn't wait for it to be over did you wake up excited though nope i sure didn't why the fuck do it well that's why i do podcasts and stand up now and when i get an audition you still go on some auditions all right sometimes yeah i went i love for wonder woman haven't heard back from Patty. You should get it. I love when we're at Abbot Kenny grabbing lunch, and you're like, fuck, I should be on an audition.

What do you mean? When you might have an audition coming up, but we're at lunch. Oh, and I forgot. And you're all, ah, fuck it. And I forgot. No, you're just like, fuck it. I love that. Well, it's because everything's going well.

Yeah, man. Look, you're great at being Brian Callen. That's the real problem. It's the best. That's what I'm good at. I'm too good at being me, man. Look, you're great at being Brian Callen. That's the real problem. It's the best. That's what I'm good at. I'm too good at being me, man. You're good at being you. You know?

It's true, bro. There's something in that. And you can't manufacture that. No. I've cried. I've cried on auditions where I've cried in a very dramatic scene. And I got seven people, I don't know, looking at me. And I'm fucking crying, but doing the lines. And I'm fucking good. Didn't know looking at me and I'm fucking crying but doing the lines

and I'm fucking good. Didn't get it, but still crying. And I'm walking out wiping my tears. They're like, Brian, you're a very fine actor. I'm like, thank you very much, man. I think that's the character. Driving home, part of me dying inside. There's nothing wrong with really enjoying that.

Like my friend Steven Root from NewsRadio. Great actor. Who's a great actor. He's been in Boardwalk Empire. Fantastic guy. He's been in Boardwalk Empire, Office Space, a million different movies. That guy is hilarious. And

he's always working. And he loves becoming a new character. He loves, he has a craft. So people love it. Bradley Cooper loves acting more than anything like was in an the actor studio and Obsessed over little details about the character and how assured is listen man. That's why he can do America I need those guys you need those like to go to movies. Yeah. Well, there's the same thing in fighting, too

There's some guys who love that shit Yes, like the Diaz brothers love to be in the thick of things can hit hit in the face. Rafael Dos Anjos. Guess who does it? This guy. See ya. I don't want to do that. I don't like it. Are you done? Can we say officially you're done? Are you done officially?

Don't say it. Say it. Don't listen to him. Listen to me. It's over. Devil angel. Am I the devil or am I the angel? No, no, no.

I'm just kidding. I'm just confused. You're both, man. I'm going to do it. Dude, if you don't like making a lot of money talking and doing what comes naturally, and if you'd rather go in there and get punched in the face by monsters, please, whatever you want to do, I'm just here to support whatever decision you make. Take a deep breath and don't say anything.

You know what the thing is? I'm not officially doing anything. For me, it's just, you know, things are going so good. It's just like, you know, and with the Reebok deal and all that stuff, I just don't like the direction that it's going. It doesn't make sense to me. So I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. He's going to suck down to 85.

There I said it. I'm going to suck down to 170. 85, 170. Can you imagine? Just like dead. Jesus Christ. Dead. Can you imagine what you would look like at 170?

You would be a skeleton. I'd die. They'd have to put him in a coma. They'd have been in a medically induced coma for five months. Oh, well, this is a good point to talk about because now that the new standards, the new testing standards, they're not allowing IVs anymore. Why? It's fucking stupid.

Explain that to me. Well, because you could blood dope. So they're checking for levels of plastic. But it's dangerous when you do that because it takes, they say, almost seven days to fully hydrate your cells the way they were when you were drinking. Like with an IV, you can hydrate much faster. Head trauma is way more likely when you're dehydrated and you don't have time in 24 hours to drink yourself hydrated. I think they're taking it too far now. They're taking it a little too far.

Okay, but is there an argument to be made for the fact that they're just going to cut out weight cutting now and that would be better for everybody? Or would they never cut out weight cutting? Would people take a chance and fight dehydrated? Dudes are always going to cut weight. Do you know Andy Foster? He's the director of the California State Athletic Commission.

Andy Foster is the as far as I'm concerned, he's the most hard-line guy. He's a guy who's been involved in martial arts for a long time. He's fought, and he's a real fan and a fucking smart guy, and he runs a tight ship. California's tight, tight ship. I love this guy. I love what he's doing.

But he suspended Shlomenko for three fucking years. For steroids, right? Mm-hmm. What? Shlomenko pissed hot. He suspended him for three years. He essentially canceled his career. Like, that's it.

100%. Damn. Do you think that's fair or no? There's a debate. I mean, I don't know. Part of me goes, I like the fact that he takes a hard line, that people can't do steroids anymore. But another part, like, this guy doesn't have a chance now. He can't even get off of them.

Well, no, but he can get out of California and fight. No. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No, but he can get out of California and fight. No. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, he can fight in China or some shit. Yeah, he can fight in China. He can go to fucking wherever. Yeah, but he's got a contract with Bellator. I don't even think he can do that. That's the Vandalee Silva thing. When Vandalee Silva

ran away from the test, which, by the way, Vandalee Silva was exonerated. He got... They gave him a lifetime ban in California, but the court decided that was invalid. You can't do that, which is great. He should retire anyways. He should retire.

Vanderlei's had some crazy wars, and he's an all-time legend. If I had to say my favorite fighters, the fighters that when they're about to fight, and I went whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo, Vanderlei's right up there. Top of the list. Top of the list. When you saw Vanderlei Silva fight in Pride, you saw some fucking about to fight and I went whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo flattened. Yeah, but his face wasn't. His scar tissue was so bad in his eyebrows that he would just get nicked and it would just open up a giant gash. It was just all

scar. Like, there's some close-up photos of Vanderlei's eyes. Like, you see the amount of scar tissue. He's been through some wars, man. When I found out Gilbert Melendez test positive for steroids, I almost fell out of my chair. He's the first one where I was like, what? Me, it was John Fitch.

Nah, John Fitch, I was like, ah, whatever. But John Fitch always used to talk about it. I know. What? I know. That's fucking insane. But that leads me to the question of if they have such stringent testing for steroids, I feel like you're not going to see guys fighting into their 30s.

They're not going to be able to compete. And I think Gilbert Melendez, who, you know, is an all-time warrior. He's one of my favorites, just period. He's a great guy. I think he's awesome. I love that guy. And I think that, you know, Gilbert Melendez and people like that who are now in their 30s training on that level,

I think what you're going to see is, you know, it's not possible. You could make the argument that it's not possible to fight on a high level like that at 30, in your 30s, without some help. Okay, game over. It's evolution. Game over. Okay, but so your career is going to last, let's say, half as long. That's a hard pill to swallow for dudes who dedicate

their whole life. Look at me. I know. I get it. I'm just saying that if you can't compete anymore and you've got to do steroids, then it might be time to be like, alright, fuck it. Maybe this isn't the life for you've got to do steroids, then it might be time to be like, It's just so wide spread. Maybe this isn't the life for you. Well, he's an interesting case because he's got a legit medical issue.

I agree. He has a tumor in his pituitary gland. I know, and he needs that shit. He's a different case. Yeah. But he was a totally different animal when he fought Mark Hunt. Completely different. He could take monster bombs to the head.

I mean, Mark Hunt hits as hard as fucking anybody. Hardest in the world. He's one of the best strikers ever in the heavyweight division. And Mark Hunt hit him with bombs. And him and Bigfoot went five fucking rounds of death. He's so much so. I have a Roots of Fight jacket that Dana White had made. Mark Hunt, Bigfoot, Silva 2.

And he was so hyped up about the rematch that he had Jesse from Roots of Fight make a limited run of these Mark Hunt, Bigfoot, Silva 2 shirts. And then the test came out, and he got busted for having silverback gorilla levels of testosterone. That's what I'm saying, though. So if he's going to do that stuff, okay, he can't compete. Go find something else. Go do jiu-jitsu. But he's really good.

He's a good fighter. I mean, you watch his knockout of over him i want to see that guy fight i want to see that guy fight yeah so do you say that they're all allowed to have a certain level of testosterone i think that's what you have to do i think with this new testing that they're doing we're gonna see more guys get busted we're gonna see a watered down version of the ufc which we don't need right now right it's already kind of watered down with how many shows we're putting on. I keep saying we like I'm fucking working on the bus. But how many shows the UFC puts on, it's becoming a little too much. Well, now you take away all that you do all this testing.

You can get guys not doing shit, and you can get some bullshit fights. Well, that's what Pettinaris and Aldo were saying. They were saying, look, you want to test? Okay, you can test, but you're going to have less exciting fights. 100%. Yeah, it's true. And that's a real question. I mean, I don't know.

I feel like if I were a – like if I had a favorite baseball player, and, I mean, I'm not trying to – it's so complicated in a way. Like I have a favorite baseball player, and his bat speed starts slowing down in 31, 32. And with testosterone, he could play for another six years. I don't want to watch that. Me too. And I guess I sympathize a lot with it. Roger Clemens is in his 30s, or in his 40s.

He got up in age, and he was actually getting better. He was throwing fantastic. I don't have a problem with that. If Michael Jordan could have played 10 more years doing steroids, let him do it. But there's a difference between that and fighting, right? I agree 100%. And Ronda...

Because fighting hurts the other guy? Yes. Well, Ronda Rousey did an interview once, and she said it best. She's like, this person, if they're on steroids, they can land shots they wouldn't be able to land. They wouldn't have the energy to land if they weren't on it. They would be able to get things off. A lot of doping, testosterone. They could turn the tide.

They could wind up winning. They can do things they couldn't do if they were normal and natural. Combat sports is different. I agree. Because you're talking about health concerns. Yeah. Well, you're talking about doing damage to somebody. And that damage could essentially be permanent.

Like, no one knows better than you that the amount of training that you have to do in order to get in tip-top shape to fight is fucking ungodly it's ungodly you said that you can only really maintain that level of fitness for like two weeks before the shit starts popping and breaking you only have the peak when before you're about to fight you've got a month you got about a month at that level at that really high level before shit starts when you're doing three days wrestling practice fucking battle ropes and fucking Deadlifts and all that crazy shit, and you're going to war you're ready to go to what you're you're got your

You got that fucking engine red line, and you can only do it for so long and The amount of effort that you put in there's a direct correlation The amount of effort that you put in, there's a direct correlation between the effort that you put in and what you can do when you actually get into the octagon on fight day. If you're a guy like Dos Anjos versus Anthony Pettis, a perfect example. Dos Anjos trained like a fucking wild demon. And because of that, he had this insane cardio. He was working out with the Marinovich's guy, Nick Kursan. You listen to that podcast, right?

Yes. Kursan's a fucking genius, man. And talking about the strength and conditioning work those guys did, I mean, he's breaking them. Yes. Just breaking them. Another level. Like, Marinovich had BJ Penn in the best fucking shape of his life.

But when BJ talked about it, he's like, I couldn't hold my daughter in my arms when I got home. Oh, God. about it, he's like, I couldn't hold my daughter in my arms when I got home. Oh, my God. I would get home from training, I couldn't hold my daughter. Like, he would try to hold his daughter. He's like, what the fuck? But when it came time to fight time, and Diego Sanchez was in front of him,

we got to see all-time great BJ Penn. When BJ looked across the fucking cage, he has those crazy eyes. You're like, oh. The best. Yeah. Dude. I think the person who has it down.

I got a fucking BJ Penn jacket, motherfucker. Damn. One deals. That's right. Look at that. BJ Penn. The prodigy bitch. Yeah, I'm not mad at that at all.

It's a fight style. No, I mean, the person who has it down, too, who was kind of the first person that talked about doing these short camps was Ben Henderson. We did an event together, i i was i forget who i was fighting but i was like yeah about to go into camp man he's like when's your fight i was like like three months he's like camp the fight going to camp for right now i was like when do you do your camps like five weeks man i trained so much when i go into camp you know everything's redlining so i just five week camps but he's never out of shape he's always never out of shape he's

a lighter guy and he's always in the gym yeah But he's saying when five weeks out, he's sparring, doing three a days. He can only do that for that long. And he's not getting hurt. You see Ben, he's never hurt. I've never seen him get tired either. He's the best. He's an animal. I like the fact that he's going up to 170. And now that they're taking away the IVs, you're going to see a lot of that. You're going to see a lot of that.

A lot of guys are going to be forced to, but also, you're going to see a lot less endurance because I guarantee you guys were blood doping. Guarantee you. I know for a fact guys were blood doping. I know for a fact. Fighting for 25 minutes. Anybody who's ever wrestled for six minutes or nine minutes, God forbid, when it goes

into overtime or whatever, that's such a long time. It's such an eon. It's insane. It's when you literally want to die in six minutes. It's the craziest shit in the world. 25 minutes. When I watch these guys kicking, punching, and wrestling for 25 minutes, it's kind of unnatural.

I don't know how you get in that kind of shape. I mean, you do, but without help. You guys who do it. No. They're elite athletes. I get it. Don't get it twisted. A lot of guys get in that shape without all that shit. I've never used shit in my life. I was in crazy shape. Guys like Ben Henderson, they don't even sniff protein powder you know I'm saying when you take

supplements yeah but there's a lot of guys that don't take anything yeah they're fine then they're fine they're freaks there's a fine certainly genetic advantages for sure have some people absolutely have genetic advantages and you know you can't get around that this is you know what you also can't get around guys using steroids looking for advantage because there's so much money involved in the sport and it's an individual sport. Steroids, I don't give a fuck if you test a guy every single day. Steroids will find its way to the game. It's part of history.

I was watching Chris Camozzi versus Jacare, the second fight. Went exactly like the first one. What's that? Yeah, exactly, the first one. Thanks for nothing. And I was watching this, and I was thinking to myself, okay, this is, first of all, Chris Camosi's got balls. He's a tough fucking dude, okay?

Game as they come. Game as they come. Takes his fight short notice against a guy who already beat him, already strangled him the first time they fought, right? So here he is again with this fucking monster in front of him, right? He got arm-triangled like a white belt in the first fight. Jacare could do that to black belts. He could do it to anyone in the UFC.

Yeah, I mean, he'll just manhandle you. He just runs right through you, right? His jiu-jitsu is so tight. He's so fucking physically strong. Where did he learn his jiu-jitsu? Where did he come out of? He's Brazil. Yeah, I know, but what school was there?

That's a good question. Good question. He's a multi-time world champion. champion anyways anyways point is i was watching those two together and i was watching them move around jacare's closing the distance on them and i'm like these are two different species this jacare is such a super athlete he's shredded he's got giant pythons for arms his biceps go down to his forearm like when I met Jacare the first time I met Jacare was before he even was doing um he was doing MMA. He was only doing jujitsu I met him in 2003 in Brazil his bicep goes down to here Wow it goes down like it's

Longer than it's supposed to be that leverage makes you insanely strong. It's just his he's just got so much jujitsu She's ready to choke and he's a great athlete. He's just a natural any Insane he's an animal, but it's like yo Romero. Yeah, exactly Yo Romero is actually a better example. So what do you do? So so nothing to mosey my I'm saying is you give Chris commising all the steroids in the world He's not gonna beat yo Romero. Yeah, he's not going to beat Yoel Romero. He's not going to be that guy. He's never going to be that guy. He's a different guy. I mean, Camozzi's tough as shit.

He'll beat the fuck out of a lot of dudes at 185. He's world class. But that Yoel Romero guy, when you watch that guy chase after Machida, he's fucking 40! So what should Chris do? His learning curve is so ridiculous. If you're Chris, what do you do? It's a good question.

It's a good question. You can see why guys are like, fuck it. Well, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what you can do. Well, it's the same thing to people who are not that athletic, just don't play in the NFL now. It becomes this sport is, if the money's going to be there, this sport is going to attract more Yoel Romeros and Jacarets.

Yeah, but just because you're not Yoel Romero or you're not Terrell Owens in the NFL doesn't mean you shouldn't play. And fighting might be different because there's so much skill and technique. Fighting's different because less than 1% are Ronda Rouseys or John Jones or Cain Velasquez. There's also some people genetically have power.

And you won't get that. You're not going to get it. You just can't get it. There's also some people like genetically have power. Yes. And you won't get that. You're not going to get it. You just can't get it. You can't get it. You don't have the scaffold. Exactly. Exactly.

These Mike Tyson characters. You can teach Mike Tyson perfect technique. You can show Mike Tyson how to throw punches perfectly. What you're never going to do is develop that kind of power unless you have that body it's genetic like nothing can do like floyd mayweather is in my opinion the best boxer ever i agree we want to talk about boxer he gets hit the least he's beaten everybody everybody in front of everyone it's arguable that his era is not as talented as the era of sugar ray leonard or all those other guys but when it it comes to the ability to hit and not

get hit, in my opinion, he's the best. He's not my favorite. My favorite is Roy Jones Jr. I agree. Because Roy Jones Jr. was a motherfucker. He was a motherfucker. He just had his own style. There was just so much about Roy Jones that was just... And in his prime

during those few years where he was redlined when he was at the top, virtually untouchable. Untouchable. The only guy ever. And knocking dudes out. Dead. That's the difference between him and Mayweather. Hitting so hard, too.

Body shots. And clowning dudes. Clowning dudes. And put his hands behind his back and knocking guys out with one punch. Making a show of it. Yeah. I mean, he knocked out Virgil Hill with a body shot. Crazy.

With a right hand. Not even on the liver. Right. Threw it on the left side of his body. Wah! Go to sleep! He hit you so goddamn hard. I think the thing in fighting, I don't mean to interrupt you.

I'm going to get to the power thing, but Floyd Mayweather will never be able to punch like Tommy Hearns. He'll never be able to punch like Julian Jackson. He'll never be able to punch like John the Beast Mugabe or Marvin Hagler. They don't have his footwork, though. Or his elusiveness. Absolutely. He's a better Or his elusiveness. Absolutely.

He's a better boxer. He's a better boxer. But that power thing, you either have that thing or you do not have that thing. And you can't teach it to people. The difference in fighting these other sports, let's say I'm the 53 guys on the NFL roster. Let's say I'm the 50th best player on the San Francisco 49ers. I'm making a good living. I'm really not suffering that much damage.

Let's say I'm the 50th ranked fighter in the UFC. It's not a pretty life, man. It's not great. You know what I'm saying? No. Because I'm still doing exactly what the number one guy is doing as far as getting hit, competitions, fighting, camps, everything. But I'm not getting the same payment. You know what I'm saying?

You're getting hurt all the time. You're getting battered all the time. You think about what you're making a year. You're making like $30,000 a year or something like that. Think about Jose Aldo. All the press he did for the UFC, right? You don't get paid for that press. Not only that. His camp. Think about his camp. Then he has to go through all that.

And then he gets hurt, what, 12 days? 14 days before the fight? 15 days out. So all that work, you don't get paid for any of that. Are you excited about this Chad Mendes kind of thing? Very excited. Can I ask you why? As excited as Aldo, if not more.

Really? Do you think that it's obviously a very you know, they have this golden boy, Conor McGregor, and, you know, it feels like Chad Mendes is a, this is a big challenge because Chad Mendes is a sick wrestler. I think he should be the favorite. 100% he should be the favorite. I'm just amazed that somehow, some way, they didn't choose someone like Nate Diaz.

Why did they choose Chad Mendes over this? First of all, Nate Diaz is in a different weight class. He's never made 145 in his life. That's true. Second of all, Chad Mendes knocked Ricardo Lamas dead. Dead. With one punch. He just smashes dudes.

Goes after guys. He's a destroyer. You're saying it's a bad, and I've got to agree with Brian on this, I think it's a bad business idea for the UFC to put Chad Mendes in there. I think there's two horrible matchups for Conor. Chad Mendes, Frankie Edgar. Let's do whatever we can to get Conor to fight Aldo in October. See, I disagree.

I think Chad Mendes easily could be as big a star as Conor McGregor. He wouldn't talk like Conor McGregor did, but neither did George St. Pierre. George St. Pierre was the biggest pay-per-view star of all time. Because he was a gentleman, and he was a fuck... He was. No, no, no. George St. Pierre got a million pay-per-view guys. George and Chad Mendes is a different animal.

Chad Mendes got beat twice by Jose Aldo. That's what I'm saying. But the last fight was razor close. Yeah, it was. And there's an argument that could be made that if they fought in America, he would have won that decision. There's also an argument to be made that if Jose Aldo didn't land that late punch after the first round that knocked Mendes down It's a different Mendes very hurt could have been a very different fight Chad Mendes Who knows how badly he got hurt by that late either way?

He's lost to him twice true, but so then he beats look let's say worst case scenario for the UFC if I'm the UFC marketing team It's like God Connor cannot get exposed. Let's not if he goes in like it's not out in the first round I don't think we going to do? I don't think like that. I do. Because who's your biggest star right now? Ronda Conor. Yes.

Conor goes in there. He's talked all this trash that we love. Conor's actually probably a bigger star than Ronda, which is crazy. And he would be by far the biggest star if he wins this fight. Let me tell you something. If Chad Mendes goes out there and starches him, he's a giant. Still not as big as Conor. Man, I don't know about all that.

I disagree, brother. Let me tell you this. Here's some real facts. The numbers of tickets that are sold for this fight, okay, this is going to break box office records in Vegas. Dana White told me that the tickets had plateaued. Nobody was buying more tickets. When Aldo pulled out and then Conor was forced to fight Chad Mendes,

ticket sales spiked. Really? They went crazy. I wonder how many were available, though. There wasn't much available, but people were buying them, scalping them. Chad's family and friends bought tickets. Dude, I'm telling you, there's a real spike. I don't know what the numbers are, but I'm telling you, it's enough for Dana to talk to me about it on the phone.

You have Chad Mendes favored in this fight. This is the thing. Conor McGregor can knock out any man in the world in 145 pounds. Because of his power. He's got some serious fucking hands. Serious fucking hands. He throws his kicks almost disdainfully. Almost like Nick Diaz style.

And what he's doing with his kicks in a lot of ways is creating patterns to come in and blast you with punches. He throws all these kicks. Like, if you watch him fight Seaver, he's throwing kicks with, like, minimal effort. Like, he's throwing them, he's smacking you with these kicks, but when he lands those punches, ding! It's coming. These punches have some serious pop.

He's got beautiful... What's that? It is Seaver that he's doing that on. It's true, but it's also Dustin Poirier. He's throwing the same kicks. He threw a front leg hook kick. That was his first kick against Dustin Poirier Yeah, he's a wild man and but the point is super confident really believes his bullshit all this stuff that he's saying We're not here to take part. We're to take over

I think for the UFC he would be if he wins this next fight. He's on a horse. Has he been as vocal? I want him to win. I think for the UFC, if he wins this next fight, he's the biggest star we've ever had. I think he's bigger than Brock if he wins this fight. Because of my position, because of what I do, and I had a conversation with this guy last night. Who are you picking? I don't pick anybody.

I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm not asking you to pick, Joe. I'm not saying pick. There's two times, maybe ever, three times, ever, where I was hoping somebody won. That's the three times that you fought. The fights that I call. It's true. I don't like admitting that, but the Mitrione fight, I was like, shoo. The Arlovsky fight, I'm like, I thought you got it.

I think it's really hard. It's real hard when your friends fight. Real, I'm like, I thought you got it. And then, you know, I think it's really hard. It's real hard when your friends fight. Yeah. Real, real, real, real hard. Yeah. I'm friendly, and I'm friends with a lot of those. Not as closely as I am with you. Yeah.

But I'm friends with a lot of guys that fight. I put that shit aside. I put that shit aside. You have to. I go into those fights like an empty, objective person. I try to because I've done it before why I thought one guy would win and then I think maybe it like flavored my my commentary and then I took criticism for it and then I would listen

to that criticism and I'm go I think they got some good points you know so I I adjusted my own approach to watching fights so now when I watch fights I watch fights with I'm empty you know I have styles that I really like, but then I like when people beat those styles. I agree. Anderson's my favorite style of all time. Watching Anderson Silva light guys up, I mean, come on, man. The Chris Lieben fight, or

the Stefan Bonner fight. There's only one guy in the UFC that I watch right now and I'm excited to watch, I gotta be honest. And that's Conor. That's it? That's it. Come on, man. I'm saying for me, as far as like- How about Yair Rodriguez, that badass motherfucker from Mexico that fought in the last UFC? He's a badass. Jesus Christ.

But Conor, I'm like excited. I'm like, I've never seen shit like this. The way he moves, the way he talks. I'm like, I haven't seen this. I love watching him. I think he's amazing. I think he's amazing. But I'm high on a lot of guys right now.

Right. You know, that Amir, what was it, Amirkhani? What the fuck's his name? How the fuck do you say his name? What do you think of Wonderboy Thompson? He moves differently. He's a bad motherfucker. Yeah.

He's a bad motherfucker. It's a tough fight for Jake. Serious striker. Yeah, he's tough to deal with. Yeah, he's a serious striker. I guess just as far as the Conor thing goes, when they said it was going to be Chad Mendes, I was on set at UFC tonight. The rumor was it was supposed to be Diaz.

Nick? Nate. Nate. What? Where was that rumor? That was the rumor on set. Well, that's a good sales pitch. Yes, 100%.

Both have good hands. It's a good matchup. I can see Conor winning that. Mattel on Armour Conor is the name I was trying to... He's a beast. He's a good matchup. I can see Conor winning that. Mattel on Armour Connors. He's a beast. He's a bad motherfucker. Bad motherfucker. But what, so, do you think...

He's another 145, but 145 is deep. Do you think that Jose Aldo, even though he's been a champion, he's amazing. Do you think Jose Aldo, in some ways, is actually an easier fight for Conor than his Chapman is? No, no, no. Hell no. Anyone says that's crazy. Nobody's easy. Yeah. Jose Aldo Nobody's easy. Yeah.

Jose Aldo is never easy. But I'm just saying, I thought Jose was going to win that fight. But Jose Aldo's not a pressure wrestler the way Chad Mendes is going to take you down and put you on your back. This is what's scary about Aldo. First of all,

his leg kicks are as good as anybody that's ever lived. Yeah. His fucking leg kicks are lightning fast. And when he lands them, you only have a couple of those you can take. Because you're diminished. You're diminished with the first kick. I'm telling you, man, I've seen guys kick live. Aldo

has a different kind of kick. It's so fast. I also think Jose's... I think he's faster than Connor. I think people will be surprised. I think he's actually faster. He's faster than Connor. He's very, very fast. I've never really seen Connor as being fast. I just see him as being accurate. His hands are fast. He's accurate. He's very fast. He's accurate. He's very fast.

He's fast. Especially for how big he is. He also has great penetration on his punches. When he throws that left hand, he fucking... Reaches. Boom! Yeah. He's going through you.

He wanted to bet Dana White? $3 million. $3 million, and he knocks out Chad in the second round. What? Yeah. He's that confident? See, that was my next question. Has he been very vocal?

Yeah, but then if Chad Mendes gets into the third round and he knocks Chad Mendes out in the third round, he loses three million bucks. He's down three million. He'd be so depressed, son. He'd be so depressed when that fucking bell rings. But God damn, man. I didn't know, so he's been very vocal now, the same way with Chad Mendes, basically. Of course, you can't, oh, there's no

backtracking. I haven't heard when Chad Mendes has been laughing at him, though. Listen, Chad Mendes is a demon. He's a motherfucker. You ever see Chad Mendes jump out laughing at him though. Listen, Chad Mendes is a demon. He's a motherfucker. You ever see Chad Mendes jump out of a fucking pool? First of all, Chad Mendes is only 5'6". He's a super athlete. He gets to the three-foot side of the pool, jumps out of the pool, lands on the fucking edge, and then does a backflip into the pool. That's so sick to me.

That's so fucking crazy. Watch this video. Watch this video. Chad Mendes is an animal. He's an animal. Because I've seen BJ Penn do that. Yeah, but not flip afterwards. Not like Chad. Chad Mendes is an animal. He's an animal. Because I've seen BJ Penn do that. Yeah, but not flip afterwards. Not like Chad.

Chad Mendes is a legit super athlete. That's freaky. But here's something. Watch this shit. Watch this shit. Because this is fucking ridiculous. Watch him standing there. Look how thick he is.

Yeah, watch. He's standing there by the three-foot side. He jumps out of the pool. Boom. And then does a backflip right into it. He's a monster, dude. Yeah, super monster. He's a monster, dude. Super monster. He's a serious athlete.

His second fight with Jose Aldo, if I could make one fight and put it to the future, like lock it up and be like, watch this. This is what the UFC is. It'd be his second fight with Jose Aldo. The technique, the back and forth, the five rounds. It's one of the best fights in UFC history. It was a great fight. It was a phenomenal fight, man.

It was to the wire. It is so incredible. To the wire of the best fights in UFC history. It was a great fight. It was a phenomenal fight, man. It was to the wire with the best. It's so incredible. To the wire with the best. Two elite, elite fighters. Both in their prime. Against a guy in Aldo who you've got to think is at least top two or three pound for pound. I think the number one guy in the world is Mighty Mouse. I've said this for a long time.

Just as a, yeah. He's the best. He's the best. I can see that. He's the best. I see that argument. I just don't. He's so good. I can see that. He's the best. I see that argument. I just don't. He's so good.

I have Jose Aldo over him. I have Mighty Mouse 2. I have Jose 1. I don't. Because Mighty Mouse never slows down. He's as good in the fifth round. Well, he's 125 pounds. Aldo's only 20 pounds heavier, though.

Aldo's a big cut, bro. Aldo's a big cut. You don't think it's a big cut to make 125? I think Aldo's fighting tougher competition. He already is. But you know what? He makes it tougher, too. Because he's got a big cut. You don't think it's a big cut to make on 25? I think Aldo's fighting tougher competition. He already is. But you know what? He makes it tougher, too, because he's got a different style. I agree.

I saw Mighty Mouse walking in Seattle Airport, and it was just there I was, and I kind of nodded at him and nodded. He kept walking, and nobody was giving him – nobody even noticed him. And I thought to myself, that right there is – if he was a heavyweight, he would be just mobbed. That's one of the baddest people on the planet at his weight. I heard a story he couldn't get into a club. And DC was like, bro, this is

the world champion of the UFC, man. The bouncer's like, okay, go ahead. They weren't going to let him into the club. You don't get love when you're 125. Bouncers need to fucking pay attention to lower weight classes. Get that ass whooped. Get that ass whooped by Mighty Mouse. He'll spin around behind you. I guarantee

135 is hard for him, I guarantee because he's thick. He's a little thick Mighty Mouse. He'll spin around behind you. I guarantee 135 is hard for him. I guarantee because he's thick. He's a little thick. 125. He's thick. He's not a big guy. No, he's tiny. But he's a fucking.

He's the best. He's an elite, elite fighter. The way he moves, in my opinion, is like if I wanted a young fighter, I said, you want to watch somebody? You want to learn what they do? Watch this guy. He never gets hit. He's got that body type, though. You know what I'm saying?

With his style. Maybe. Like my fat ass when I was young, he'd show me Mighty Mouse. I'm like, yeah, no, I just can't do that. Well, you're carrying around 250 pounds. Well, boxing's that way. Boxing's that way. You know, you can't fight the way Floyd Mayweather or Rojan is doing junior fights without having

a lot of that ability just to insane speed. Two words for you. Muhammad Ali. True. Yeah. He moves like that. Muhammad Ali, when he was in his... Roger on his junior fights without having a lot of that ability just to insane speed. I got two words for you. Muhammad Ali. True. Yeah. He moves like that. Muhammad Ali, when he was in his prime. But he had that kind of body.

But when he was in his prime, he was 220 pounds. He did not have that body. He was moving like that. What I'm saying is that his physicality, he's such an athlete. He's big. When you watch him as Cassius Clay, he moved like a little man. He was so fast and smooth. And that's really hard for him.

That's a very rare example of a huge guy who moved like a small guy. You have to be physically gifted. I was wearing a Roots of Fight, it said Cassius Clay shirt. I got one of those. Yeah, love it, right? It's the white one. It's half my wardrobe is Roots of Fight, by the way. Me too, me too.

Sometimes I feel like an asshole. I don't think this is, but it might be. Wearing fight shirts all the time. But I'm lying at a Starbucks. This old white dude comes up to me and goes, Hey, man, that shirt's offensive. I went, What? He goes, That shirt's offensive.

I went, I forgot what I was wearing. I looked down and I'm like, What the fuck is he talking about? And he goes, That was his slave name. I was like, Okay, cool, man. Have a good day. He's like, That shirt's offensive. I wouldn't wear that, man. I was like, Bro, beat it, nerd. I didn't make the fucking shirt. I'm some Muhammad Ali fan. Have a good day. He's like, that shirt's offensive. I wouldn't wear that, man. I was like, bro, beat it, nerd.

I didn't make the fucking shirt. I'm some Muhammad Ali fan. It's old school. It's historical. Yeah, get out of here, man. It's got Fifth Street Gym in Miami on the patch as well. And he only changed his name when he converted to Islam anyway. Well, not only that, he is getting proceeds from that shirt.

He authorized the sale of that shirt. Of course he did. That shirt represents who he was when he fought in the Olympics. Yeah. How about I piss in your coffee? How about I piss in that dark rose? He won a gold medal, which he threw into the St. Louis River, I believe. Goddamn white people.

Yeah. Fucking white people, man. Fucking white people. Fucking white people. I've been working on this bit about how I secretly root for black people. Like if I see a black homeless guy versus a white homeless guy, I'm always like, you know what, man? You're probably accused of a crime you didn't commit.

Here you go. When I see a white guy, I'm like, wash your face and wear some glasses. Well, let's keep working on it. Might want to work on that, but... Anyways, anyways... Fuck off, you guys. Hey, that's not the big you assholes.

I'm just saying... Yeah, whatever. Hey, speaking of shitty things... Tainted from now on. Speaking of shitty things, how about Travis Brown? Oh, boy. Hold. Yeah, man. I, speaking of shitty things. Tainted from now on. Speaking of shitty things, how about Travis Brown? Oh, boy. Hold.

Yeah, man. I was just looking at that. Awkward. UFC said. So is that out? UFC at Fight Week said, hey, listen, we can't have you signing and hitting bitches, so we're going to have you sit this one out, okay? So what is going on with him?

His former fiance, or wife, former fiance, right? No. Instagram, just a bully beatdown, black eye, horrible bruises. Her knee, her leg. Everything said, I'm sick of this. I can't believe I stuck through it through this long. You know, physical abuse, domestic abuse is nothing, you know, not a laughing matter or whatever. Posted an Instagram picture, and it's horrible.

If you guys haven't seen it, it's horrible. It's interesting that it's not on the underground. Like, it's not on the front page where all the news is they're trying to keep well the UFC frickin yanked him from The this fight week they did oh yeah, they just about Brittany Palmer Brittany Palmer's fucking husband gets to go he get a million dollars bond attempted murder He tried to choke her first of all is jujitsu so weak because right if I'med murder. He tried to choke her. First of all, his jujitsu is so weak. Right?

If I'm really attempting to choke her, she's dead. Well, that's what I mean. That's what I said. I'll tell you what. If it's real attempted murder, how is she alive? That's what I'm saying. How is she going to have a choke? Is she Kimbo with Kim Shamrock?

What's going on here? Hey, easy. Sorry, guys. I'll tell you what, though. With Travis Brown, when I saw his girl all beat up, I was like, I feel you, man. He whipped my ass. I feel, girl, go for a takedown. Go for a takedown.

Fucking go for a jiu-jitsu. I mean, how mad. He slapped the shit out of me, too. I feel you. He slapped the piss out of me. So I feel like reaching out to him and being like, you want to talk about it? I'm just being like, girl, I feel you. He beat the shit out of me, at least in front of millions of people.

Yeah, you were alone. At least you got paid. I was in my underwear. He beat the fuck out of me. I don't even fight anymore. You want to talk about it? Do you think, I mean, when you see a girl like Brittany, who's, she's a nice kid, man. I mean, I don't understand it.

I just don't understand. She's smoking to me. She's smoking. Apparently, he forced her into getting a bunch of plastic surgeries, too. That's what she's also saying. It was like the reason why she had all that work done. Oh, really? The rich kid who was handed money and moved to L.A.?

Was he handed money? It doesn't work out. Did he earn his money? That's what I've heard. That's what I've heard. I don't know where he earned his money. I always got along with the guy. He was always cool.

He's always cool to me. It doesn't surprise me. I enjoyed talking to him when he was with her. I mean, I hate saying it now because I know, I allegedly know what he did. So I hate him, you know, fundamentally. That's one thing I don't play with, man. I like her, man. Me too.

I really like her. Every time I talk to her, she's sassy. She's always fun. We're always joking around. She's one of the rare girls in the octagon where, you know, she has a talent. It's painting. If you've seen Their dope man. She's about reach out and having her paint some shit a big brown put it up my house

Oh, she'd be happy to do that super. She's always been so it's been like a right like a down-to-earth. She's fine I like hanging out with her. She's come to some of my shows. Yeah, I love looking at Instagram late at night She's married. She's married. Not anymore. Not anymore. So there's a slip in the order. That's the best way. There's no better way. Are they officially divorced?

Dude, he's out on a million dollars bail. A million. Hmm. That's some Shook Knight shit. But hear me out. No, Shook, yeah, I mean. Hear me out on this. Hear me out as a.

Oh, here we go, the white knight. Go ahead. Oh, go ahead. Hey, guys. Hear me out, man. She could have been. Guys. It wasn't dented. No, guys. Hear me out, man. She could have been... Guys. It was attempted.

No, but... I'm giving them jujitsu lessons at four, so hurry this up. But since we don't really know the details, when I hear that it was attempted murder and he had choked her, like, there is the question of she got out, like, she got away.

What are the circumstances? Like, for me, I'm always guarded about this. I want to hear more about the case before I condemn the guy. I don't. You know what I do? I go, oh,

you put your hands on her? Done. Yeah, it's done. What do you mean you want the fucking details? Here's the only time. Hey, Bobby Brown.

Hey, Bobby Brown. You don't know what happened. Listen, here's the, you're a fucking man. Okay. Here's the only time it's okay to hit a woman when she's trying to kill you.

She's got a knife and she's trying to kill you. Okay. And your life and you hit her that's what was happening we don't know heard that you would have heard that it would have come out he would have said that he hasn't said anything like that there's no evidence and maybe that's because his lawyers are telling him not to I don't come out on a million dollar bond pretty Palmer's not trying to stab anybody. I might be wrong. You're right. You're right. I don't know. I'm just saying we're talking now. Fuck that. Fuck that. You're right. I don't know.

It does not matter. That's the only possibility. Is that she's coming at him with a knife or a gun and she's trying to kill him. It's like Chris Brown and Rihanna. They're like, yeah, well, Rihanna did some shit. I don't give a fuck. I don't care what she did. If a girl I love punched me in the face, I'm going to did some shit. I don't give a fuck. I don't care what she did. You can't do that. If a girl I love punched me in the face, I'm going to be very upset.

I'm not punching her back. Right. No. I'm going to give her a sharp liver. I'm going to hit her right in the liver. Right in the liver. I'm going to take some heat for this. I'm just kidding, though.

I would never touch her. I would headbutt her solar plexus. I'd grab her ass. I would never hit her. I would put her in the tightest anaconda choke you've ever seen. I've never choked anybody, but I did take my wife's back once, and I put the body triangle on her just to let her know what's up. Obviously naked, right? It's fun.

Put that body triangle on her. Just let her know. This is death. Feel this. You don't get away from this. This is death. Ever. I had a girlfriend You don't get away from this. This is death. Ever. I had a girlfriend who would get drunk and get jealous and hit me.

She tried to take my head off with a boot. Did you marry her? Nope. Get close? I don't want to talk about it. But my buddy, we were at a party, and it was all great. And she was the kind of person who would get drunk and you wouldn't know it. And my buddy was

there and he said i saw he said he saw the whole thing and this is where i'm just let me hear me out because i she she thought i was looking at a friend who was there at my party a girl and she just attacked me physically and i countered by getting her in under hooks or something and i kind of hip tossed her away from me. And we both crashed through a window. Yeah. Through not a window, but a joining doors, you know, those French doors. Yeah. And my buddy saw the whole fucking thing. Glass. Yes. So glass everywhere. Yes. Glass everywhere. And the door broke. That's assault brother. Well, hold on. My buddy saw the whole thing from its inception. He saw her attack me.

Somebody else saw only me hip-tossing her through the, well, kind of, not really hip-tossing, but getting her away from me, and he saw me hip-toss her through the glass. If that person saw that, it looked like I was throwing her through fucking doors. I get it, man. Guess what? I wasn't.

Here's the problem. And my buddy came to my defense and said, just so you know, I saw the whole fucking thing. I get it, man. I wasn't. Here's the problem. And my buddy came to my defense and said, just so you know, I saw the whole fucking thing. I saw her jump on you and attack you, and you were trying to get her away and calm her down. And I, and then I brought her, I put her, I brought her, because there was a party, into my garage, held her down and said, calm

down. And I was holding her physically down, physically, so she couldn't move and she was screaming. Well, that's kidnapping. Well, you can say a lot of things. I'm just saying, if I'm a cop, I'm like, yeah, that's kidnapping. Well, you can say a lot of things. I'm just saying, if I'm a cop, I'm like, yeah, that's kidnapping. That's what I mean. That's assault. That's what I mean. I could have been arrested for assault when what I was doing was doing one, I was

trying to protect myself by holding her down. I was trying not to create an embarrassing situation and I was trying to like sort of extinguish the problem. Here's one for you. What do you do if you're the UFC? What's that? What do you do if you're the UFC? What's that? What do you do if you're the UFC? They obviously suspend him for, just for UFC fight week makes sense. Well, we're not talking

about Brittany anymore. We're talking about Travis now. We're just talking about also, sometimes as we all know, you can get in a situation where, like, just that example, I could have been, if somebody had seen a segment of that, I could have been in big fucking trouble. Okay, well, here, Let's talk about reality.

If he did beat her, if he did and he did more than once, you've got to cut him. Of course. You've got to cut him. That's what they did with Rumble Johnson. Then they found out Rumble Johnson was a lot of bullshit. It was his baby mama. It was a lot of nonsense and it wasn't real. She didn't have these pictures.

Exactly. But there's also women that will pretend. Now, I have a friend and he was breaking up with his girlfriend, and she said, and he recorded it, and she started saying things like, you know, I'm going to tell the police you hit me. I'm going to throw myself down a flight of stairs, all this kind of crazy shit. I had it done to me. It happens. Yes, I have.

It does happen. She opened the windows and said, stop hitting me. She started screaming, stop hitting me. I think that's the exception. I'll be honest. I don't know about that. We don't know. It may be the exception.

Hey, Billy girl hitter. How about you back up? But, bro, seriously, there are people that are deceptive. There are people that manipulate. We've all seen Gone Girl, yes. But it's possible. It's possible. It might not.

Whether it's the exception or not, it's not the point. Like, is it possible? Yes. Does it happen? Yes. Does it happen? Yes. All the time. I had a friend who was accused of rape, but he kept all the text messages. And showed the prosecutor.

Well, how about this fucking guy in Virginia? The guy with the girls walking around with a mattress on her back? He's got text messages from her asking him to come over and fuck her in the butt. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah. I mean, that's why we have courts, and that's why we have due process, and that's why in this country you're innocent until proven guilty. It's called habeas corpus.

I'll tell you who's up for it, but we're not. You're guilty in the court of public opinion. That's what I mean. Travis is guilty. You look at his Instagram, the comments are tough. Yeah. Tough. Look, that might be it.

The public jumps on it right away. If he really did do that, he is guilty, right? We all agree. Yes. Okay, if he really did beat her up, we all agree he's got to be cut right you think ufc cuts him then he goes to bellator and just dominates listen i think he goes to jail yeah i mean if he really did beat her up he goes to jail you'd have to it's assault right it's assault brother especially with a really pretty she's beautiful she is and she has legit bruises i mean they're hard and he is huge he's

a giant so big He's a giant. He's so big. He's a giant man. I remember when he came in the octagon, I was like, Jesus Christ. I can imagine her. He jumped in, I was like, holy fuck, bro. Are we the same weight class? We obviously don't know what the fuck happened.

We don't know. We have no idea. I mean, it could be another I'll throw myself down the flight of stairs thing. I always take the girl's side on this. Well, it's the smart thing to take. I mean, she's the victim. I mean, the worst thing you could do is question someone who's been victimized. You go, man, I don't know what really happened.

That's fucked up, man. That's fucked up, right? Yeah, and for the most part, I think that when, I have to believe, and it's just, I don't know this person. I don't know Travis. I don't know the situation. But I do feel like, you know, when you post pictures know the situation but i do feel like you know when you post pictures like that to instagram i feel like this is definitely not the first time he's been hitting her and she's finally had enough and decided this is what she said yeah yeah this

is the only way i can protect she said she was embarrassed that she waited so long yeah man and with a girl like that i mean this is the only time in human history where someone's been able to do something like that like take a photo put that photo on your Instagram and instantly... That's the power of Instagram. There are a lot of countries right now in this world where you, as a wife, if you're getting the shit beat out of you, there are no laws that protect you. Travis needs to move there.

If that's his thing, take your ass there. Yeah, I don't... That's tough, man. When I hear this Aaron guy and Brittany, I like the guy. I mean, I talk to him. I enjoy talking to him. Was he a perfect person?

No. He's all right. Obviously, I wasn't in a relationship with him, and I don't know what the fuck happened between us two. We don't know. All I need to hear is, okay, you beat her. You choked her. Cool.

Not my friend. Don't talk to me when we see each other. If that's really what happened, it's- Brittany, call me. It's very simple. It's very cut and dry. Brittany, I am available. Number 720.

No, I'm just saying. Yeah. Yeah. There's the ulterior motive, you son of a bitch. No, I'm just saying, if you need a place to stay, I live in Marina Doré. No, but it's not like that, man. It's fuck that people get to that place. It's fuck that people that used to be in love, they were in love enough to get married.

I know. They had a big, crazy wedding. They held hands. We know one thing. It's a fine line between used to be in love. They were in love enough to get married. I know. They had a big, crazy wedding. They held hands. Listen, we know one thing. It's a fine line between love and hate, man. If there's one thing, they always say, like, the most dangerous place for a woman sometimes, or even a man, is the bedroom. Shit, flares, fucking tempers, insanity happens.

Cops fucking hate going to domestic violence cases. Yes. Someone always has to be arrested. If a domestic violence is called, they have to arrest someone every time smart Yeah, just a super buddy all someone down and they said the worst case if it's two gay guys Gay guys you got thing about gay dudes fight like dudes. They know you It's a scrap This is true I

Think about it, bro. That's true. And I don't know if this is true, but I heard from a cop who did a lot of detectives who said, well, you get a lot of face stabbings in the gay community.

And I was like, what do you mean? He goes, when lovers fight, man, you can usually tell that somebody knew the other person and was physical with them, like in love with them

and physically, you know, sexually physical. If their faces are, they have 15 fucking stab wounds in their face. That's weird. Like a great white shark. That's very, that's very typical of somebody who hates, like I loved you and now I fucking hate you.

I'm going to stab your face. Try and ruin that face. I'd try and ruin that dick if I was gay. Oh, that too. Because you might want to go back to the dick. Guy's like a little scar. Nah, I get that booty hole. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Hey, man. Hey, bro. I'm just saying. You're going to stab the booty hole? Come on bro! If you stab someone in the booty hole you could get the toxic in the blood. They could die. And you know you might have to wear a colostomy bag or something while being stitched up.

Stabbing anywhere sucks a dick. I'd rather get shot sometimes. If you were to be stabbed somewhere where would it be? One place you have to choose from. Don't stab me in this juicy ass quad, son. I don't give a fuck. You could die. I don't give a fuck. Big fucking arteries here. Femoral artery?

Nah, I'll take my chances. I don't know where I get fucked. If you think about it, the quad. Forearm, forearm. Go forearm. What? Stab my forearm. The use of your hand might get fucking severed nerve.

Well, then where do I go? Kimbo Slice told me if you ever get in a knife fight, you let them cut outside here. So Kimbo knows. And Kimbo had all these fucking cuts. All over his. like this son fuck it that's what I do let's talk about this for a minute how crazy is it that we we talk about fights like you know we're just a bunch of dudes sitting around talking then it becomes news stories oh I know very the MMA media is so bizarre like we talked shit about that Ken Shamrock-Kimbo fight. That became a giant fucking news story. You hurt Ken Shamrock's

feelings. He was like, Joe Rogan shouldn't do that. Yeah. I didn't know that. Well, you're a powerful dude, my man. You know what I've learned on podcasts and too is I joke around, I make stuff funny, but then, boom, it's a headline like, shit, I better watch what I say a little bit.

When you joke around, also, there's a difference between listen to you talk in context of a full conversation where there's a lot of shit talking laughing but they're taking it and printing it yes when it's two-dimensional it's on paper like well like fox did an article where uh brian asked me on one of our podcasts he goes how do you think connor's feeling right now i went oh i'm sure he's terrified you know like the anxiety of fighting. They change your opponent 12 days. It's a completely different style. You're fighting a wrestler.

There's some nerves there, man. But he's terrified. Not that he's not going to win or he doesn't believe in himself. Just naturally, everyone's terrified to fight, man. What's the article say? Brent Schaub thinks Conor's terrified. Of course. And then his fans fucking just reach out to me like they want to fucking Travis Brown

me. Yeah, just fucking intense. Like fucking Brittany Palmer. You know, it's like brutal, man. So then, it's almost like now, I don't censor myself, but... You can see how people get careful. You can see how people get very sort of

antiseptic and very sort of sanitized. What was weird was what articles were being written while the podcast was going on so people were sitting in front of their computer like with their fingers ready and as soon as we were talking about the cam shamrock fight it was in podcast art in articles rather did you get rich did anybody reach out to you about that ken or anybody no look look i, I love Ken Shamrock. I'm a huge Ken Shamrock fan. And that's one of the reasons why I was suspicious about him not being able to finish that rear naked choke.

Underneath the neck, underneath the neck on anybody with a fresh Ken Shamrock. Yes. But I guess, you know, you have a good point that he's 51. And, you know, I mean, look, Kimbo's not a joke. But his ground game's always been the weakest part of his game. There's a lot of issues with that fight that a lot of people had. But the big issue was there were fights in Ken's past that were absolutely worked. Jack Slack did a piece on it.

Yeah, the history of it. Yeah. So you're not breaking any news. I'm not breaking any news. Jack Slack was one of the best writers in MMA today. He's fucking fantastic at breaking down fights. He did, I think it was called the anatomy of a fixed fight, and he did, he showed

fights from pancreas that you watch them and you go, oh, okay, that's worked. Funaki fight, the Matt Humes fight. How cool of an article would it be Joe Rogan, huge Ken Shamrock supporter? They're not going to write that. Maybe they would. They just sit there and wait for something. He shopped, talk shit about Reebok.

He was a fucking pioneer. That position that he had him in is maybe the hardest thing to get out of on the planet. When you got his back underneath like that on top of him. I'm just saying. If you've got good jujitsu, no. There's a lot of guys you get their back. John Fitch was notorious for you could get his back and choke him, and he figured out a way out of it. True. Remember with Eric Silva?

Eric Silva had a deep choke on him, and like whatever yeah, you know high-level guys Let's not get twisted Kimo slice isn't winning any exact jiu-jitsu competition. So I gets a little suspect It's a little suspect. Yeah, you know, but it's just I think that Ken is He's in an unfavorable position. First of all, he's a real legend of MMA He's one of the guys that started it all off. If it wasn't for Ken Shamrock and his fights, like Ken Shamrock was huge back in the day. Huge. Before always,

even in Japan, right before that. In Pancrase, yeah. He makes the Mount Rushmore of MMA, for sure. Yeah, he's in there 100%. So, and also he created the Lion's Den, guys like Pete Williams came out of there. Yeah, there was a lot of great fighters that came out of there. And that whole Tony Galindo, there was a whole group of guys that came up in that era

that wound up being really big fighters, and a lot of it was under his tutelage. The game's very different now. Fights are very different. You're dealing with the John Joneses of the world now. You're dealing with the Yair Rodriguezes. The game has moved. It's a different thing. And, you know, Ken is not financially secure. You know, he's not a multi-multi-millionaire like he should be. You know, if he was- As a pioneer, yeah.

Yeah. If he was a pioneer in any other sport, if he's a pioneer as a NASCAR driver, if he's a pioneer in basketball or anything, he would be set for life, living in a mansion, drinking martinis by the pool, on NBC Wild World of Sports, talking about fights that are upcoming and treated with the respect that he deserves. But he's in this unfavorable position where he's got to fight at 51 years old.

And one thing that I like that he said is, I've earned the right to fight for fun. And if that's what he's doing, if that's what he wants to do, I'm 100% down with that. I agree. Look at a guy like Mark Coleman, too, man. He's not doing it. Another pioneer. Exactly. He's all fucked wants to do, I'm 100% down with that. I agree. Look at a guy like Mark Coleman, too, man. He's another pioneer. Exactly.

He's all fucked up. He's got a second hip surgery coming up. And again, massive Mark Coleman fan. I love him as a human being, too. Fuck yes. Both those guys. Legends, man. Legends.

Oh, hey, shop. Quit doing what you're doing, making a lot of money, and go be like those guys, though. Yeah, it's too hard, man. Nah. Well, you're a different guy because you're funny and you've got a you got a fun personality and you you translated perfectly into podcasting and you're lucky you know brian callen but without those things yeah without those things it's like it's hard for these dudes like a guy like brian stan i think has a real future in podcasting because he's he's brilliant he's very articulate he's very smart smart like Bryan Stan is a smart sharp mother really sharp dude sharp

He shames me with his with his I don't know JoLynn just his character could be president. I know I know for him. I would do I'd vote for him in a heartbeat I would vote to him till he was like hey a lot of fighters I know love the Reebok deal when I saw that I was like oh you hurt my feelings Stan Stan I thought we were boys. And then I'm like, whatever. I get over that and I see you'll chill, Sonan. This Reebok deal is amazing.

Sonan said that? Sonan said the same thing. Oh, no. They got to you. Well, they made good-looking shirts. They got to you. The shirts are good-looking. Pause. Perfect.

Perfect set of pause. Just very quiet. You just hear a dog in the distance. Oh, Perfect set of pause. Just very quiet. You just hear a dog in the distance. Oh, oh. Barking. Well, Gibblert Melendez. Gilblert. Gibblert.

Gibblert. Spelled his name Lert. They spelled a bunch of people's names wrong. How do you do that? That's crazy. They don't care. It's not their world. MMA's not their world.

It's not their world. They didn't care. Whoever did it wasn't paying attention. Yeah. It's, you know, it's no their world. It's not their world. They didn't care. Whoever did it wasn't paying attention. It's no big deal. Nah, what can you do? I think it sucks for the fighters that can't make as much money. Because I think that it's a hard road to try to make a living as a fighter. It's hard enough as it is.

It's hard enough as it is. And now it just got way harder. It just got way harder for a lot of guys. What I hope is that there's another revenue stream that they haven't figured out. I hope there's a shining silver lining. The silver lining is don't have Reebok and the UFC tell your story.

We've talked about this before on here. If I'm a guy like Chad Mendes, I'm having t-shirts printed and I'm saying, this is my official shirt, champion shirt. I get 100% of the proceeds. Instead of buying this bullshit Reebok shirt for $95, which I have nothing to do with, it's horrible, come on.

It's also expensive. Go to Chad, whatever he has, ChadMendez.com and buy this shirt. This is what supports me. This is a shirt that I created. Reebok, we have no creative authority. What I was thinking is, you know how fighters, one of my favorite things to watch up to fights when I get really hyped up.

So I watch all their videos that they're putting up of training footage and all this different shit. I get, I'm like, if you had, like, organized shit, like if camps put together organized, like some guys do. You know, like McGregor's done some and some guys, like, will have cameras, follow them around in training. And those can get a lot of hits. Oh, yeah. Those fucking things get a lot of hits. And you're getting money off that. Yeah, yeah.

But now think if you're wearing a shirt that you approve and you designed and you're winning all those videos. That's what I'm saying. All your fans are going to jump on board. Say you have a training video and it's all like Torque One, Uriah's company. You make, in my opinion, the best fucking gloves. Between them and Hayabusa. Hayabusa has the best fucking tie pads. Their fucking tie pads are so good.

My trainer, Justin, his arms are so fucked up. I would make his arms go numb. And his elbows, he would get these spikes up his elbows from just whack. Because he's holding regular tie pads. Fucked his forearms up. But these Hayabusa ones, dude, full blast. Full roundhouse kickstone. You can take them.

Because they're super thick. They're super thick and they're all this high-tech foam shit and they absorb the shot. I mean, you probably wouldn't want to hold pads for Pedro Hizzo, but he could take my kicks. So have Hayabusa pay Chad Mendes to have those in his video. Exactly. But that's what I'm saying. Like, maybe there's a revenue stream that they haven't tapped into. Maybe there's, like, something like that.

Make your own shit. Make your own shit is good, too. It's Maybe there's something like that where fighters can figure out a way. Make Your Own Shit is good too. I like that idea. You have a major hit podcast. You guys, The Fighter and the Kid, I told you when I did Brian's for the taping of Brian's stand-up special, and I came to that show, and I was

like, there's a sea of Fighter and the Kid shirts. It's crazy. How about we were in San Francisco and I said, any Fighter and Kid fans? Sold out. Every show. I went, oh my god, any fighter and kid fans? Sold out every show. No! I went, oh, my God. This is the boiling point. Now it's starting to happen.

I get that. And you can say, well, you have a pocket sale shirt. But a guy like Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, you can have your own shit instead of having Reebok. Yes. Yes. I agree. It just doesn't make sense to me. I was on set of UFC Now or UFC Tonight, and I was talking to a guy. I'm not going to say his name.

And I go, bro, why would you have your fans pay $95 for this Reebok shirt? Do you like it? He goes, no. I said, and you retweeted it and Instagrammed it. That's weird to me. Just have someone. If your manager's not telling you this, fire him. They're trying to play ball.

They're trying to play ball. They're trying to be a good guy. They're trying to be a company person. It's also the only option. They think they only have one option. It's not, though. Because if you want to play ball, you know what happens? At the end of the ball game, you're left with no money.

Do your own revenue shit, man. They think that if they play ball along the way, they'll get more bonuses. They'll be favored. They'll get better deals. And the UFC does take care of people they like and people that work with them. They do give out bonuses. There's a good deal to that. Why depend on that?

Why depend on that when you can create your own signature shirt, man? Look at you, you smart motherfucker, businessman. I told him. You should start teaching seminars to fighters about how to maximize, optimize their ability. But again, when you have that they don't is you're funny. If a guy's not funny, it's

going to be real hard to push a podcast unless you're a real sharp guy like Stan. Forget the podcast. What you just said was interesting. If you had cameras follow you around and they're capturing all the ins and outs of your training, and be honest. Show where you feel shitty or you feel great and all the relationships you're trying to deal with.

And at the same time, you've got product placement, which is just I use Hayabusa or I use this kind of stuff. You can make money that way. You can make money, but it's a lot more. You have to be top tier, though. It's also a lot of stuff, extra stuff to think about. It used to be you put that fucking, what is it, fastener?

What's it called? Dynamic fastener on your dick. You put that across your dick and you're making 20 grand. You know what I mean? It's like they had the shirts on. Okay, but now we got to do a different route. Now you got to do a different route, man. But I don't like that they have to do a different route, and you don't like it either.

I hate it. That's what drives me nuts. And so, like, the UFC Expo, this is the first Expo I've ever missed. I've been at every one. I love them, man. And the fans are like, oh, this is bullshit, because I said, I don't work for free. I'm not doing a Fighting the Kid podcast live for free. I'm not doing that.

They wanted you to do it for free? Yeah. I'm not doing a signing for free. I'm just not going to do it, man. But to do a podcast for free, you guys would still put ads in those podcasts not a live one There's no ads at a live podcast at the UFC Expo Well, I don't understand when you do your ads. Do you do your ads you read them live on the air? Typically, okay. I used to do it like that, but then I got a man named Jamie Vernon in my life

No, but if you do a live podcast, I'm not doing, you know what I'm saying? It's a different scenario. It's a live show. But you put that up on iTunes and you put ads on it, no? No, it would just be for that crowd. You wouldn't record it? No, we didn't last time. What? Yeah.

Why would you not record it and put it out? I don't think we had the capabilities. We didn't have the capabilities. Then, listen. Just see us on stage. Again, you need a man like young Jamie in your life. It was also a different time. But listen,

if there's a soundboard and the soundboard is broadcasting out to those people, it's got a fucking auxiliary plug. Yeah. You plug it in, you put an MP3 recorder.

Am I right? Yeah. That's it, yeah. Live from Vegas. And then you make money off the ads from that podcast. It's not free. I would do a podcast.

They asked me to do a podcast from the Fan Expo, I would have done it. But they probably wouldn't want me to. Look at this. We've done it before. I like doing them. The point is, the point is, is we don't have to do that.

And we offer, listen, name an athlete that's been in the UFC who's been more open. I give you free shit four, six hours a week doing podcasts. There's never been an athlete in the UFC more open than I have talking to fans. So missing the Fan Expo, it is not the end of the world. Right. Well, you're already getting your own message out there on a regular basis. But your message is also independent. You're not a company man.

You're your own. You're a company man if the company is great, and you're a huge supporter of the UFC. Huge supporter. Love the UFC. But you're honest. You know? Like, that's fucking hard. That's hard to... That's hard. That's important.

It's important. It's hard to find. It's hard to find a guy with balls like that. But you also can do it because you make more money from podcasting than you do from fighting. I mean, that's just the way of the world, man. It's the way of the world. This sport is still

growing. You know, there's still some stuff to be worked out I you know, and I don't have the answers. I don't know this do I mean, I'm not Dana's not at fault I'm sure I might run it the same fucking way. I'm not saying I would do anything different I don't know what I do do hard job. I was I'll tell you right now. I definitely wouldn't do it this way with Regards to cutting the sponsors. I would avoid anything that cost the fighters money But I think they think that long term it's going to make the fighters money.

And maybe they're right. But for a guy like me or a guy, you know, Mitrione or a guy like Ben Rothwell, these guys currently on it, it's not helping us. Those guys are going to be long gone before they see benefits. Unless it makes a benefit within like the next two or three years, I agree with you. Because if Mitrione, like a guy like Ben Rothwell who's on a tear right now, Rothwell in another like two, three years, you know, who knows Because if Mitrione, like, a guy like Ben Rothwell, who's on a tear right now, Rothwell in another, like, two, three years, any, you know,

who knows? He's not young. No. A guy like DC, he's not young. No. Mitrione, not young. Yeah, that's true. And Ronda's knees, she's not fighting another five years. Her knees are fucked up? I mean, from judo, her knees, you know, her knees aren't the best. Right. She can't do, like, road work and stuff. She can't run? She doesn't want to run. Yeah, neither

Yeah, well It's also like you know that without the human growth hormone without any sort of I mean when they're when they're testing for everything the Way they're testing now. Yeah, we're gonna see a different playing field damn right, and you're gonna see younger fighters Yeah, you're gonna see fighters, and they're gonna see him retire Shorter careers to see 38 year old. We're not making the same money we're making. Costa Filibu just retired. Really? Yeah. Costa's a good fighter, man.

Good fighter. I mean, when he came into the UFC, he was like top 10 right away. Good boxer. 185. Fucking vicious power. Jesus, his power. He's so muscular. Like, weird.

Kind of like Tim Kennedy kind of muscles. Well, he was great under Ray Longo. When he left Ray Longo, you know, I think there was sort of a bit of a conflict because he was 185. Chris Weidman was the champ. How can he train with the champ? And who knows what kind of training sessions they had, too. I mean, what led him to lead.

To leave, rather. What's going on with Tim Kennedy? Tim Kennedy, he was talking about... He's another guy who's not like, do what? Tell me why. Hell no. Tim Kennedy doesn't have to do a goddamn thing. Tim Kennedy is not anybody's bitch.

No. Period. No, he's not. He should be running things. If Tim Kennedy went for president right now, I'd vote for him. I'd vote for him. He's the best. Tim Kennedy, Bryan Stanton, fucking president, vice president combo.

I'm in. I'm in. Sign me up. The reason why I'd vote for Tim over Bryan is because Tim doesn't have any, you know, there's no investment with the UFC. He's like, do what? No, man. I don't work for you guys.

I don't have a TV show. I'm not doing announcing. Well, did you see what he said when the Reebok deal came out? Tim? Yeah. Yes. And that's why you love him. What did he say?

Oh, he's like put out some tweet. Are you saying me that you're going to give me $2,500 to be an exclusive, my exclusive sponsor? Thank you very much for your generous offer, but I'll pass. At Scott Coker, what's up? How does that not violate your current contract with the UFC? Have you looked at it? I don't know. I mean, obviously it doesn't if they're doing it.

Wow. I mean, they're not stupid. They have the best lawyers in the world. There's a reason why they can do stuff. There's always wiggle room. I'm surprised. You know what? I don't think that it's a bad thing to get a big company involved and to legitimize the sport.

If I'm Reebok, I'm like, hell yeah. Right. If I'm Reebok, I'm like, damn, we got all these guys. We get Tim Kennedy for $2,500. It's the best deal in the world. We get Big Brown for $10,000. Oh, hell yeah, man. This is crazy.

When you look at what those guys were making before that, though, it's just like, man, to make the fighters take the hit like that. How many fighters, though, were able to generate sponsorship money as far as like, was it the top five, top ten? No, the guys who have great personalities, like Donald, Cowboy. Yeah. Who the fuck doesn't want to sponsor Cowboy? Yeah, exactly.

I would buy a certain beer if I knew that Donald Cerrone drank it after he wins by knockout. Donald Cerrone wins by knockout, I'll drink a case of Budweiser that night. Just to represent. Yeah. Hell yeah. I got you, Donald. Yeah, you better come to my fucking stand-up, Donald, this weekend. There's a few guys like that that you'll like if Cain Velasquez wins, you might drink Tecate if that was his sponsor.

Just like, for Cain. You might clink glasses. What would someone like Donald Cerrone be making now with Reebok? Let's say he was making $100,000. It's like 15 fights or 16 fights. I don't know. I don't like it. Me neither.

I don't want to get in trouble. Yeah, I don't like talking about it. I just wish guys made more money. I wish there was more money for them to make. I wish there was more opportunities for them to figure out a way to retire safely and comfortably. Isn't that the old story with fighters and hasn't that always been the case?

Look at boxers. That's also the thing with boxers. Everybody wants to compare to Floyd Mayweather. You watch Floyd Mayweather fight, pay attention to how much those guys make the first fight of the night. Pay attention to how most guys make on the undercard. Very little. Yep. Very little.

Boxing, in a way, is probably worse than the UFC. It is worse than the UFC. The only thing is, is Floyd Mayweather owns a piece of the promotion. That's 1%. Yes. That's the.01%. Well, he is the fucking Mac Daddy of the Mac Daddies. He's the man.

Yes. He beat the game. He beat the game. He beat the game. But there's a lot of top guys that'll make a million dollars a fight. Oh, yeah. You know, like, there's a bunch of guys that do real well, you know? The only thing I don't like is if you do say, man, I don't like me. I think the Reebok kids are terrible.

Can I help them out 100%? I think they're awful. There should be no repercussions for saying that. There should be no backlash for saying that. Well, here's the deal. If it's undeniable that it's good, your opinion doesn't mean anything. But if you say they look like shit and it resonates, then they got a problem with their design. Like, look, you might not like this fucking Elvis in Japan shirt.

I'm digging that shirt. That shit's dope as fuck. Hell yeah. You could tell me. Some people might like it. But just because I don't like it, cool, man. You could tell me all day that this shirt sucks. I'm digging that shit. That shit's dope as fuck. Hell yeah. You could tell me. Some people might like it, but just because I don't like it, cool, man. You could tell me all day that this shirt sucks. It sounds inaudible. Some people are going to say it's cool. It doesn't matter, right? No matter what you say.

You could tell me all day that it sucks. I don't care. Right. You could tell me all day that BJ pen jacket is stupid. I don't care. Who cares? You could say it all day. I don't care. Right. It doesn't mean anything to me. You're definitely wrong in my mind. Mm-hmm. For how I think, what I like. Which is great. You're wrong. That's your opinion how i think what i like which is great that's your opinion right it's like don't bully me into your car someone could say yeah but porsche looks

like you'd be like oh good luck with that yeah i'm gonna like what are you talking about this is a 991 this is a modern poor yeah good luck good luck with all that right but when you say the reebok kit sucks and you go You did say something interesting about Reebok, like shoes. They've had a tough time marketing their shoes. I don't know a lot of people that wear the shoes. Crossfitters. They're big in CrossFit. They're huge.

They're big in CrossFit. They sponsor a lot of CrossFit athletes. I guarantee... I'm huge in Europe. Yeah, I guarantee most CrossFitters who go to CrossFit gyms don't wear Reeboks. They wear their shoes. Europe pussy feels just like American pussy. I don't know.

It's basically the same build. It's not like Mexican Coca-Cola. It's not. It's got a different formula. I mean, what could you do, man? They're Reeboks. Yeah, man. It is what it is.

You have the pump. There's nothing we can do. Yeah, look, if someone gave me Reebok sneakers and said these are the only sneakers you can wear for the rest of your life, it wouldn't hurt me. No, I mean, I'd burn them, throw them in the trash, but it's whatever. I'm just kidding. I like Reeboks. I'm just kidding, bro.

No, I'm just kidding. I think that it's good that a big sponsor has gotten involved with the UFC. If a bunch of big sponsors get involved and then that 10,000 becomes 100,000. That'd be sweet, man. Now you're talking. And that's the goal, right? Now we're talking.

That's the goal. I hope so. I hope that's the goal. But I think with the Reebok thing, it's an exclusive apparel contract because a lot like Fight Chicks, they had to say that they weren't going to be at the expo and a lot of other apparel companies had to say they weren't going to be at the Expo. No, you can't be. You can't be.

Yeah, yeah. You can't, because Reebok is the exclusive apparel contract company. I used to make good money off the Expos, too. There's a lot of those companies there. It'd be a great weekend for me. Wow. Yeah, it's not cool. Great weekend.

I used to do six, seven appearances. Good money, man. Damn. Yeah, it's not. It's the first one I've ever missed. Listen, when you make these big decisions, you're not worried about guys like Brendan Schaub. You're not worried about these other guys. You're worried about the best thing for the company.

And I'm not saying that to Dana White it might be a great decision. I don't know the ins and outs. And they take people like Ronda and Conor and they give them exclusive deals where they get big money. So Ronda gets big money. John Jones had big money before his car accident. Conor. Conor has big exclusive deals where they get big money. So Ronnie gets big money. Jon Jones had big money before his car accident. Conor. Conor has big money. Yair Rodriguez got signed. Rory McDonald just got signed. Did he? Yep.

Banking on Rory. Does Reebok still have to keep sponsoring Jon Jones? No, no, no, no. They canceled that immediately. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Immediately. Well, he's not in... Well, he's suspended in death, right? Well, no, no. They canceled it before he was suspended. No, no, no. But if he still, but let's say he fought next month, he's wearing Reebok.

So you're still sponsoring Jon Jones. Yes, but he's not exclusive. He doesn't have the exclusive deal that he had before where they were sponsoring him outside of his fight. True, but you're fighting with Reebok on, so technically you're sponsoring him. Like if Travis Brown, let's say, whatever, he beats up his wife and he fights next month, he's still rocking Reebok. Whether they like it or not, you're still sponsored. That's a very weird place for Reebok to be, because now they have to kind of get involved in whether or not this guy fights. Because that's very damaging.

That's a big risk for them, where you go, you fucked up. Yeah, but there's more pros than cons. There's more pros than cons. I don't know. That's a good point, though. I don't know, man, because now they can't help but get involved in whether or not this guy fights in Reebok and wears there. If you've been, let's just say, before the trial comes out. Ray Rice plays.

You have a Reebok or Nike jersey on. I'm wearing Nike. They can't control that. You're going to sponsor everyone. You have to sponsor everyone. You're going to sponsor some bad apples, but most are good. Right. I don't know. That's everything. That's leagues, everyone. You're going to sponsor some bad apples, but most are good. Right. I don't know.

That's everything. That's leagues, man. It's true. It's one of those things where you've got a big company and they have their say and then they have to protect their name. Do you think that a compromise would be that one guy would wear plain shorts? Reebok would say, you know what, we just can't.

You might want to let him in. It's a uniform. You cannot do that. I wouldn't be surprised if they said that. I wouldn't be surprised if they said, hey, in this case, you know, but absolutely not. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him the exact same shorts but didn't put a logo on it. If they had a compromise and made him wear a Reebok short but didn't have the logo on it, he couldn't wear anything else. They might. But it would have to be like an extreme example where there's like a debate in a fucking closed room.

It's interesting. And Dana White's head's turning red and the fucking Reebok guys yelling too, and they're all right. Here's the deal Here's the deal is the compromise you know it have to be one of those It can be notes to say it'll be rebar and okay on the end to first of all let's break down this fucking card because this card is Insane this is I think maybe don't say better than you see 100 I'm me pass out one of the best cards of all time Really?

Listen to what we got here I disagree Shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up Dude, how could you disagree? Watch, I'm going to piss off Brendan Mendes versus McGregor I fucking love it, okay?

Robbie Lawler versus Roy McDonald I fucking love it Now let's talk a little bit about that Let's keep going No, but hold on a second Here's a fight people are sleeping on. Dennis Bermudez versus Jeremy Stevens. That's a good fucking fight, man.

That's a very good fight. Here's another fight people are sleeping on. Gunnar Nelson versus Brendan Thatch. Brandon Thatch. Brandon Thatch. That's, thank you very much. Not you. Different.

Brandon's face is looking very drunk. That's a good fucking fight, man. That's a fucking good fight. That's a very good fight. And Gunnar Nelson, by the way, Gunnar Nelson is a wicked fucking ground fighter. Choked out Jeff Monson.

Beat Jeff Monson, bro. Did he beat him? I think he just beat him. He didn't choke him out. Somebody choked him out recently. It was interesting to watch. He's from Iceland. They're all wearing Reebok now. Wow, look at that.

Now, if we could, I mean, to say this is one of the best cards of all time, you bring up UFC 100, it will knock your dick in the dirt. Matt Brown versus Tim Means, motherfucker! No one's even talking about that shit! That's a good fucking fight! It's a good fight! It's not a blockbuster! For me, that's a great fight, man.

Match-up-wise, it's a great fight. Okay, what fight in UFC 100 is bigger than this? What fight in UFC 100 is bigger than this? Mayor Lesnar? Not to me. Not to me. Are you fucking shitting me? No, it's bigger on paper as far as the appeal,

but as far as stylistically. GSP? Thiago Alves? Dan Henderson, Michael Baisley. We're talking superstars, sir. Here's a question. Who's the biggest superstar out there? Connor. He has five fights. These are two monsters.

No, no. Style-wise, these are great fights. That's all I give a fuck about. I'm talking about superstars, Joe Rogan. I'm talking about ratings. I'm not into that. You're talking about entertainment, motherfucker. I'm not a star fucker, Brendan Shaw.

Bro, go to UFC 100. Go to UFC 100. 100 guys that shit will knock your dick in the dirt don't go to ufc 100 back in the day there was super ball cards he just turned it off i don't like no he did why is john howard who was gonna fight brandon thatch why is he now fighting somebody else in the prelims in the undercard? Excuse me? John Howard was supposed to fight Brandon Thatch. Hey, hey. UFC 100. Because of some injuries. UFC 100.

On the undercard is John Jones. Mark Coleman. What? Jim Miller. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like this card better. And look at that main. Look at the main card.

John Jones versus Jake O'Brien. Come on. That's a slaughter. Still, it's John Jones on an undercard. Where's John Jones before he was a champion? A fucking monster. He was a bad motherfucker. Moving in the dark.

But Matt Brown versus Tim Means is a better fight to me than John Jones versus Jake O'Brien. John Jones versus Jake O'Brien is an opportunity to watch John Jones choke out Jake O'Brien. No disrespect to Jake O'Brien. And that shit was dope. That shit was so dope. Tim Means versus Matt Brown is going to be a fucking crazy war. Look at that main card. It's a good fight. It's a good card.

Henderson versus Bisping is an all-time classic. I remember with the George St. Pierre. They can even show that finishing out. Remember when he came down? They're like, edit that shit. Edit that shit. He killed him. They took that off him. I want Stan Hendo's signature logo.

Yeah. Him flying through the air. Imagine being Bisping and seeing that logo everywhere and knowing what that means. I remember George St. Pierre when he goes, I pulled my groin. And Greg Jackson goes, then hit him with your groin. That was the weirdest thing to say. I was like, well, there it is. Not very helpful.

Yeah. Not at all. When there weren't so many cards, like, I think we're used to a little bit of watered down cards. We're like, damn, this shit is blockbuster, son. It's good. If you go back to back in the day, there were some fucking Super Bowl cards, man. Yeah, there's some big names there.

There's definitely big names there. Mark Coleman versus Stefan Bonner, to me, is not as interesting as Gunnar Nelson versus Brandon Thatcher. I agree 100%. That's a bigger fight to me. That's a better fight. Bigger? I don't know. Better?

Yes. Bigger doesn't mean anything to me. I don't give a fuck. I'm there for all's a bigger fight to me. That's a better fight. Yeah. Bigger? I don't know. Better? Yes. Bigger doesn't mean anything to me. I don't give a fuck. I'm there for all of them. So for me, I'm there. You're a fight aficionado. You're fucking, you know what I'm saying? No, I know that my tastes are different.

Look, I like the Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao fight. I love that fight. Me too. I love that fight. Yeah. Me too. But you know boxing. You understand how difficult it is to do what Mayweather did to a guy like fucking Pacquiao.

Fuck, man. Unbelievable. This fight is going to be chaos. Chaos. Because both these guys are animals. Tim Means. Dirty bird. What a great name.

He's one of the most underrated guys in the UFC right now. Tim Means is a fucking savage. He is a very skillful fighter. Phenomenal matchup. Very, very good matchup. Are they similar fighters? Like similar styles? Very similar styles.

Very, very, very, very similar. Mirror images of each other. Caution gets thrown out the window. Both guys are warriors. Matt Brown is a fucking demon. He's a demon. He really is, Matt. He steals souls, bro.

He breaks guys. He really does. I've never seen a guy break guys the way Matt Brown does. He's a totally different animal. He doesn't always win, but the Hendricks fight exposed a hole in his game, man. Big time. A guy like Hendricks could just take him down, grind him out. Tim Means ain't going to do that.

Can't stop to take down. Tim Means is like, yeah, let's do this. Let's meet in the middle of the octagon and see what happens. It's going to be a wild fight, man. Ridiculous fight. And that's a perfect fight for Fox Sports 1 prelims to get people set up to watch the main event on pay-per-view because you're going to be frothing at the mouth by the time this fight is over. I just love the dirty bird.

I think that's the greatest fucking— He's a wicked dude. He's got evil eyes. Especially from Atlanta. This motherfucker, when I interview him, I was like, ooh, there's some darkness in there. Some darkness in those eyes. Looks like a dirty bird. Both these guys are dark.

Who's on the early prelims? Anyone? Hey, home— Okay, what are those early prelims? Keep going. Paul Pendred versus John prelims. Keep going, fellas. Paul Pendred versus John Howard is a good fight, too. Who's the old man? He looks like a dentist. The guy on the right?

That's the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's a tough guy. You talking about two taps, son? I don't know, dude. With that salty record. That's the strangest face I've ever seen in my life. He is a very, very crafty fighter. Let me tell you something.

How old is he? He's old. He's like 35. Every bit of 70. He looks 75 years older. I mean, that's impressive. Well, let something. How old is he? He's old. He's like 35. Every bit of 70. He looks 75 years old there. I mean, that's impressive. How old is he? Find out how old he is. I swear to God, it looks like somebody put his face on a body.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but that's incredible. You got to watch him fight. He's very skillful. I bet. Watch your P's and Q's, Brian. I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm just saying this. Okay, let's take a guess.

How old do you think Neil is? I'm saying he's 60. I'm saying he's 52. He just turned 59 years old. You guys are assholes. What? We're just guess. How old do you think Neil is? I'm saying he's 60. I'm saying he's 52. He just turned 59 years old. You guys are assholes. What? We're just saying. 35.

Thank you. My knowledge of age is impeccable. I like watching him fight. He's a crafty veteran. I appreciate the fuck out of that guy. Me too, man. I'm not saying I don't. I'm just saying he looked all through the picture.

I'd love for him to get his hands on Brian. It's a bad picture. He would rape you. I'd love that. I called his last fight, and I enjoyed it very much. He's Irish too, man. He's very, very skillful. Okay, guys. I'm just saying it was a bad picture. He would rape you. I'd love that. I called his last fight, and I enjoyed it very much. He's Irish, too, man. He's very, very skillful. Okay, guys, I'm just saying it was a bad picture.

Fuck off. But Smolka's no joke, dude. Smolka's a tough kid. It was a good fight. It was a very good fight. I liked that fight. Brad Pickett versus Almeida is a good fight. Look, the big fights we already discussed.

Nelson versus Thatch is a big fight to me. Matt Brown versus Tim Means, I'm looking forward to that fight as much as any fight this year. Really? You know why? Because that's fucking chaos. The style-wise, the style-wise is pure chaos. And skillful-wise, Matt Brown is very skillful. Means is very skillful.

100%. Both guys are ferocious. Ferocious. Great fight. I love that fight. And Nelson versus Thatch, I fucking love that fight. Clash of styles. Clash of styles.

Big clash of styles. Nelson's not exactly a finisher. Well, he can if he gets you on the ground, but Thatch is a warrior, dude. And he's huge. He's huge for that weight class. And his KO power is undeniable. His stand-up is some of the best in the division. And Dennis Bermudez was on a roll until Llamas stopped him.

Llamas, yeah. When Llamas stopped him. He won seven in a row. Yeah. He caught him with that beautiful guillotine. Llamas has got that sidestep guillotine where he traps that arm. Who? Bermude's his body?

Yeah. Thick-ass thighs. Badonkadon, right? Brown, too. Big ol' brown. Ass on him. And Jeremy Stephens, you want to talk about a murderous striker. That kid can fucking bang.

And he's getting better all the time, too. Training down there in San Diego at Alliance. The card's ridiculous. Robbie Lawler versus Rory McDonald. People are sleeping on that fight. I are so excited about that. They're sleeping I know you don't like to call things but Robbie Lawler is a motherfucker dude. You know why his cardio lately's up Yeah, and he knows how to pace himself well he didn't kind of in the Hendricks fight He kind of went out of guns blazing that first round. Yes, kill him. I heard he doesn't spar. No he does

He does he used not stopped for a long time. He stopped for a while. But a big part of his resurrection is him training at AT&T. AT&T. AT&T and AT&T. When he went to American Top Team. I say the same shit. That was a big part of his resurrection is also he started sparring again there.

God, he looks like a bad motherfucker. Rory's just so calculated, man. And when they fought last time, it was a close fight, remember? Yeah. And Rory had a fucked up ankle in that fight. Yeah. I think Rory- I think Rory changed his nickname again. Now he's the Red King. Red King, man. And when they fought last time, it was a close fight, remember. Yeah, and Rory had a fucked up ankle in that fight. Yeah. I think Rory changed his nickname again. Now he's the Red King, son. I like the Canadian Psycho. He likes Red King.

I think he's the best. I love that, dude. He and Carlos Conda, that's the fight I'd like to see. I think he's the best 70-pounder. I would like to see that again. I think he's going to win this fight, and I think he's just incredible. I know. He was a lot younger. Oh, he was really young. He was 21 at the time. I think, you know, Rory's the favorite win this fight. They already fought. I know. He was a lot younger. Oh, he was really young. He was 21 at the time. Well, they've already fought, too.

I think, you know, Rory's the favorite in this fight. Isn't that crazy? But he's a different fighter. I can see it, though. So is Robbie. Robbie's completely different. Robbie's the champion of the fucking world, dude. 100%.

He's a different fighter, too. And he's going to come into this fight a different fighter. This is a very interesting fight. But if Rory can start picking him apart technique-wise, that's when things get interesting, because Rory with full movement, Rory had a fucked up ankle in that fight. I think Rory wins this fight. I think Rory wins this fight. Close fight.

Or Robbie does what he did in the first fight and hurts him bad. And then maybe even finishes him off. Who the fuck knows? I love that fight. I like Rory in that fight, though. That's going to be incredible. Mendes and McGregor, man. Mendes.

I have no idea what to expect in that fight. Mendes took this fight on short notice. What a big factor in this fight is how much was Mendes training before he got the call. How much was he training? Huge factor. That's a big factor. Especially with five rounds. Here's another factor.

Are they allowed to use IVs in this fight? I don't know. I don't know. Is that a big weight cut for Chad Mendes? Yes. It's a big cut for both guys. They said that Conor McGregor, according to Chael Sonnen, Conor McGregor is cutting 27 pounds this week.

Oh, my God. He weighs 172. What? And I believe him, man. When I stand next to him. Fuck, he's a big dude. He's a big dude. You ever seen that picture of me and him next to each other?

I was like, damn. He's very wide. And, you know, I mean, that's one of the reasons. Yeah, he's thick. And, you know, it's all where the punching power comes from. It's all shoulders and, you know. I love Chad, man. I love Mendez. He's one of the good guys.

He's the best guy Conor McGregor's ever fought. By far. Not even close. Not even close. He's a totally different animal. The thing is, can Conor beat a guy to this level? You know what I'm saying? I want to see him do it. I root for

greatness. I want to see greatness. I do too, but I root for Chad's greatness as well. Like I said, I love both guys. I think if I'm the UFC brass, we want Conor to win. But we're not giving him any fucking layups. This is a conversation that Dana and I had on the phone. I said, listen man, you gotta think about who was your biggest pay-per-view star, and

it was a gentleman. George St. Pierre was the biggest pay-per-view star, a good-looking gentleman, and that's Chad Mendes. Yes, but guess what? George St. Pierre was always far and away. He beat everybody, and he always beat everybody. No, he didn't. Matt Serra knocked him dead.

One example. After that. One example. One example. He outclassed everybody. No, Matt Hughes tapped him out. Look, he lost. I know that, but that was earlier.

So stupid. I know. Same thing with him. When he became champion, you that, but that was earlier. So, Stu, same thing with him. When he became champion... Do you understand that's the same thing with Mendes? Same thing with Mendes. Mendes lost twice to the best fucking guy on the planet Earth. Yeah, true. He lost once by knockout. He got caught with a knee.

George was a different star because he represented Canada, and he was so dominant for a very, very long time after he lost. Does Chad Mendes win this? I think this belt rotates. That's what I think, too. Who knows, man. Or Mendes could go on a goddamn tear and become a dominant champion. Knock out Aldo in the rematch for the title, for the undisputed title.

Anything can happen. It's a different time period. Does Conor McGregor have a more talented weight class? Way more talented. 145 is as deep as it gets now. And there's the Dark Horses. Killers. Amirkhani.

Fucking killers. Yair Rodriguez. Yair Rodriguez is fucking terrifying. Terrifying. 22, 23 years old, 145. How about fucking Max Holloway? That motherfucker gets better every time he fights. That fight with Cub Swanson looks fantastic.

Well, he hurt himself once he was already beating him. He got him on the ground and in a guard pass position popped his knee. Does Conor McGregor have wrestlers he trains with who are on the level of Chad Mendes? You don't get to that fucking... He's not training with a Mendes, but he's training with very good guys. High level wrestlers. Yeah, he's seen... You don't get this level without bringing in...

But as far as a high level MMA wrestler who's also a banger like Chad Mendes, there's only a few guys on the planet like Mendes. So how do you prepare for that kind of pressure all the time? You just have guys constantly trying to take you down. Well, it's a different game. He's got a different—the thing is, he's fighting a totally different style now. He was going to fight a guy who he probably didn't really have to worry too much about taking him down. What he had to worry about is being heavy on his left leg if he stands orthodox.

You've got to be real careful. Right. Because all those kicks come 30% faster than anybody else in division. They come and that fucking shin is a whip. It's just whack, hitting that thigh, and then you feel the throbbing and you realize, like, oh my God, I can't take many of these. That Uriah Faber fight is a goddamn wake up call to anybody. You want to learn about

what happens to your fucking leg. Frank Yeager stopped those leg kicks. He just dove into a double leg every time it happened. Frank Yeager's a bad motherfucker. He'd kick and he'd just boom and he stopped throwing that leg kick. He stopped throwing it. Well that's his boy right? Henry? Yeah. Hell yeah. Mark Henry. Mark Henry really fucking is a fantastic

coach. He's a mastermind. He literally would just dive in, like he'd kick them, boom, and just go into it. This fight is so interesting to me, man. Very interesting. It would be interesting if they both had full camps. It's interesting now with the added element of the fact they didn't have full camp to prepare for each other. Of course,

Connor is in full camp for Aldo, so he's going to be in shape, but strategically, game plan wise, and having those fine motor skills prepared for stuffing that takedown, keeping the fight on the feet, preparing for an orthodox wrestler. I bet you he wasn't even working stuffing takedowns because Aldo isn't a guy who takes you down. Well, he certainly would work on everything.

He was working it, yeah. You don't get to this level, Brian, without fucking covering all your bases. That's not a huge part of your training camp, right? Yeah, but if you're going with guys in practice, they're not just going to sit there like dumbasses. Right, they're trying to take you down. No, it's MMA. You're just not going to bring in strikers. You're going to bring in all sorts of guys.

Yeah, it's a good fight. His boy is Nelson. His boy is Nelson. He's phenomenal at jiu-jitsu. Right. And very good at takedowns. There's a lot to like about this fight. A lot to like. I can't wait. like about this fight. A lot to like.

I can't wait. I like this fight as much as I like the Aldo fight, if not more. I really do. Because I've been wanting to see. I disagree. You're allowed to. I've been wanting to see Conor fight a wrestler. But not on a 12-week notice, I don't.

I think it's fucked up. I don't give a fuck. I like watching shit happen. I do. I got a real problem. Hey, if you're his coach, if you're Con Connor's coach, and you know he's going to get taken down, you just tell him to keep standing up. No jujitsu.

Just keep standing up. Keep trying to stand up. What kind of strategy are you fucking? I don't know, man. Can you just sit there and find out? What would you do, though? What do you ask him? It's Connor, man.

He does his thing. You've got to remember, he got taken down by Dennis Seaver. I know. People forget that. He got taken down. I remember it. Popped up, but he got taken down like three or four times. It's hard to pop up against Shep Mendes. But he got taken down by Dennis Seaver. I know. People forget that. He got taken down. I remember it. Popped up, but he got taken down like three or four times. It's hard to pop up against Chapman.

He popped up, but he got taken down. We probably didn't anticipate that it was going to turn into a wrestling match at all. Well, whatever it is, you still got taken down by Dennis Seaver. Right. That's what worries me. Chapman is no fucking joke, dude. Oh, but the problem is, if I'm a betting man, which I've been known to bet, if I'm a betting man, I think Chad Mendes knocks him out in the third round

faking a takedown land and a big overhand. That's what I think. What? What my heart wants, I want Conor to go out there and win. Why do you want Conor to win? I want Conor to win because I like what he stands for. And when I met him, he was just a natural, genuinely good dude.

And he's beating the game. I like people who beat the game. He's a star. He's the 1% of 1%ers and he backs it up. He's our Muhammad Ali. To see a guy lose on a matchup that he got on 12 days notice, it's a completely different style. I don't want to see him go out like that. Last time he

lost, he was out for a grip. You've got to remember. He was in the UFC. He lost. He didn't come into the gym. His coach was like, bro, you don't come back from the gym, man. Just get out of here. I don't want to see him go out like that, man.

He has a chance to be great. He has a chance to be our LeBron James. But, of course, if something horrible happens like this, what happens to him, man? That's not great. So you think the UFC is fucking up You think the UFC should just postpone the fight I think it's a bad idea what they're doing If I was his manager and I swear to god I said this on the podcast

I would tell him to fake a fucking injury And wait until October Would you guys understand how much money has been spent On this promotion You're looking at it very short sighted Just like the Reebok deal Hold it I understand. You're looking at it very short-sighted, just like the Reebok deal. She said, hold it, hold it. Break the tank!

Break the tank! Break the tank! Break the tank! Break the tank! You know what I'm saying? You're looking very short-sighted. You make a quick buck this weekend, but in the grand scheme of things, he has potential to be your biggest star of all time.

But let's give him the worst matchup possible on 12 days notice. And he just went through a whole camp. Who knows if he's healthy? What if he wins? Then he's the best. That's the gamble. That's a big gamble. That's a big gamble. I'm coming for the other belt.

I've got the real belt. Get your spit bucket and shine up my belt and bring it here to me. If he wins, oh, it pays off. It's huge. Fuck yes. Everyone in the UFC is like, oh. I get myself an ankle problem real quick. There's so many questions about him, man. There's so many questions.

And that's what's exciting about the Mendes fight is that it's, look, for sure Aldo was going to test him, but Mendes is going to fucking test him too. In a different way. For sure. We need to find out whether or not they can use IDVs for this fight. I'm just saying it's rare you get a I'm just saying it's rare you get a guy

of his capabilities. And we have something that could be great here. His entertainment value. To give him this horrible matchup on 12 days is tough. I just love his entertainment. He makes me want to see the fight. He's so exciting. He's such a great showman. Not that Chad, and I love Chad.

Everyone knows this. I love Chad. People that are listening, please let me know if you do know whether or not, because we're not going to Google this while it's happening. Please let me know if you know whether or not they're going to be able to use IVs during this fight. If they'll be able to use IVs after this weigh-ins. Because eventually-

That's big, man. It's going to be giant. And especially when you've got a guy like Conor's cutting 27 27 pounds where did you get that statistic about it takes seven days to fully rehydrate a medic an army medic on the set of kingdom who was a wrestler in college and he was he was talking about how he said the biggest problem with this ivy thing this is just him i don't know if it's right but he said he said uh the biggest problem is that you can see a lot more traumatic brain injury if guys aren't allowed to hydrate with IVs. It's a bad idea, man.

Because it takes a long time to hydrate orally as opposed to with an IV. Fucking relax. And he said that to get fully hydrated where your cells are where they were before, it takes up to seven days. Now, I don't know if that's the case, but he's a medic. Well, that's what Andy Foster said, that a good percentage of fighters are fighting dehydrated Yeah, get into the octagon. They're not good for your brain No, you know not good for your like a lot of time you see guys who weren't successful at one weight class They cut weight class and then their chin goes choose because they're cutting a lot of weight

So you don't have that fluid in the very dangerous Jamie's got some information for us What's this? Okay, July 1st. That means UFC 189 participants can expect to be a part of the new regime. Oh, my God. So this 189, they can't fucking rehydrate. Let me ask you this.

How do they know if a guy rehydrates with electrolytes and fluid? Well, here's the problem, man. How can you test that? Yeah, that's a good point. Oh, no, you can test. You can test.

Fluids? Because you can test for plastics in the problem. How can you test that? Yeah, that's a good point. Oh, no, you can test. You can test. Fluids? Because you can test for plastics in the blood. There's residue. You're talking about microscopic amounts of residue from the plastics. Now you're testing for fucking plastics. Yeah. Now you're testing for plastics, which apparently the reason this all came out is the plastics can mask, apparently, according to this medic.

The plastics themselves, I guess, can mask whether or not you've been blood doping. Or there are similar compounds in there, and it makes it harder to test. That's not what I had heard. That's interesting. It might be true. What I had heard was that the plastics was how they test for blood doping. Because if they test your blood, and your blood has traces of this plastic, and it means you might have taken bags of blood and put them back in your body. That doesn't hold water either though because then you could just

say I was doing what everybody else did which is an IV. I was rehydrating. But you can't do an IV. No, I'm saying before that, right? So before that Well, they didn't test for it before that. This is the first time they've ever tested for these plastics. Because this is the first time they've had IVs. IVs have been used not just openly but, I mean, they talk

about it. Yes. Everyone does. Yes. It's healthier for the fucking fighters. It's dangerous to not IV. Right. But is it? Look, BJ Penn says IVs are for wimps. And he wrote hashtag beer and hot dogs. He's never sucked a lot of weight, though.

Yes, he has. He made 145. Yeah, he sucked a lot of weight. BJ Penn is... Look at that. He's not that tall. BJ also fought at a different time, though, I think. It's a little different now.

It's not as hard for him. Guys are cutting a lot more weight than back in the day. Right, but I still say that the BJ Penn that fought Diego Sanchez was one of the best, if not the best, 155 pounds that ever walked the fucking face of the planet. I agree. And didn't use an IV. I understand, but guess what? Guess what?

You got the exception. BJ Penn walks around not heavier than 170 from what I've seen. No, you're right. Which is smaller than Conor McGregor. Yeah, it's not a huge weight cut for him. And he fought Lyoto Machida at heavyweight. How insane is that? That's my boy.

Such a badass. BJ Penn, such a legend. He's a warrior. And the nicest guy ever. The best. He's awesome. Unless you fuck with him. No, I don't want to fuck with him.

That's the wrong dude to fuck with. Yeah. I remember when Dov Davidoff and I met him at this premiere. Oh, wait a minute. The IV ban. Somebody just tweeted me this. The IV ban has been pushed till October. Oh, snap, son.

The back IV ban for UFC fighters until October. Concerns over dangerous weight cuts and improper rehydration in the short term have won out over the USADA's desire to get rid of IV usage. Fighters now have a three-month grace period to adjust. Yeah, there's an argument that they shouldn't do this. I agree. I'm going to go pee out of my... You go pee out of your dick hole.

Thank you to Dan Worms. Dan Worms on Twitter for sending me that information. Yeah, this is interesting times man and the reason they postponed is what I heard is there's a lot of pushback right like a lot of fighters like whoa this is too short notice man doctors as well including the UFC doctor

and who makes these rules people who have never fought or cut weight before really especially in the octagon but you can't do this okay how many fights you been in? Shut your fucking mouth. Yeah, I don't know what they're thinking, man, with all this bringing these people in. I mean, I guess the idea is to try to clean up the sport, but short term, it could be devastating. Horribly devastating.

The thing is, to my understanding, they say they test five times out of competition randomly, right? Now, that's just five random guys. Five times a year. Five random guys a year. That's not five. Every fighter's tested five times per year. Every fighter's tested five times a year. I don't think so.

I think it's five random. No, no, no, no, no. Every fighter on the roster is going to be tested five times randomly a year. Are you sure? Yes. Because they told me otherwise. Dominic Cruz told me otherwise. Well, Dominic may be right, but I don't think he is.

Every fighter on the UFC roster. That's what I thought. I thought it was every fighter on the UFC roster tested five times a year, which is ridiculous. Yeah, I think that's exactly it. But then Dominic's like, no, man, it's five fighters randomly throughout the year. No, that doesn't make any sense. That's stupid. But if they can test anyone.

randomly throughout the year. No, that doesn't make any sense. That's stupid. But if they can test anyone. Revamped UFC drug policy includes, here it is, includes random year-round testing, two-year suspension for first-time offenders. Let's see. First offense.

Okay, when are they going to test? Where does it say? Five, tell me when to find this. See, I thought is could be tested, but they're not guaranteed each Individual tested five times throughout the year. Yeah, I don't know man. That'd be a thing every test that is so yeah That's the whole idea Yeah, no every fighter five times a year Yeah, sure save money on time. Yeah, give it to the fighters and sponsorship I gotta take it no they're not going to save the money for the

fighters to go test test and spend dollars randomly test all 500 athletes several times a year we're sending a message if you're cheating you'll get caught suspended and fine we want the sport to be clean Wow mmm yeah yeah I don't know man you know I don't know what to say. It's all uh... In a way I feel like science is... They're not on the side of time and technological advancement and it's gonna be very tough because I feel like science is always gonna find a way to beat any kind of

test. Testing is always behind. I'm not saying it's an excuse, but I'm just saying it's going to be interesting to see how now scientists who are involved in the fight game and fighters figure out a way around this testing five times a year. Very difficult, but something will happen. Well, it'll be a battle between the cheaters and the detectors because the science involved in detecting is getting better as well. So it's weird, man. It's like there's a battle between cheaters and non-cheaters. Like how many guys just snuck under the wire and retired before it all ended? I would imagine a lot. Wouldn't you love to go?

You just see the change in their bodies. When Randy Couture was in his 40s and he was beating the shit out of people, wouldn't you love to kind of look at his blood work? What's going on here, fellas? Well, he was kind of open about being on TRT, I think, later on in his career, right? I don't believe he was. I thought he was like, I thought it was kind of known when he was 45, he was doing some

testosterone. No. No? No, I think it was all just speculation. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, I think, but. Again, I don't know how you do it without, with that, training three times a day, wrestling,

kicking, good luck without some help. I would like to do blood work on Herschel Walker. When Herschel Walker was 48 and he fought in Strikeforce and was built like a brick shithouse. He's been a freak, though. He's been such a one-percenter for so long in the NFL. Before, in college, they were like, what? He's a one-percenter of one-percenters.

235 with world-class speed. Outlier. Total outlier. Just like Bo Jackson. Yeah, exactly. Just nobody had seen anything like that. Yeah, every now and then you get one of those dudes, right? Yeah, didn't even lift.

Just had a crazy regimen, exercise regimen, but just body weight stuff and 1,000 push-ups a day, 1,000 sit-ups a day. Yeah. Weird, weird stuff. It was a religion for him. He never went out and drank. They did a really interesting profile on him. Well, there was other guys that were like that, too. There's always a few guys that

will work harder than anybody else, on top of the fact that they're just absolute freak athletes. And that's like a Herschel Walker. Yes. Kobe Bryant, same way. Nobody has his work ethic. It's weird, his work ethic. Kobe Bryant? Yeah. The craziest thing in the world. Nothing better. Michael Jordan, too. And Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather

is so obsessed with training. He'll wake up at 3 in the morning and make everybody come to the gym. Then he'll come home and beat the shit out of his wife just for extra training. I mean, it's ridiculous, man. His training is ridiculous. Brennan, you weren't there. I think he's more of a choker. No, no.

He doesn't like the UFC. No, I heard he hits her on top of the head so that she can't see the welts. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, because you have to shave her head to prove the welts? Jesus. Well, that's smart. Jesus. He's smart in a bad way.

You don't get to his level without being smart. You know what you do? You prove the wealth. Jesus. That's smart. Jesus. He's smart in a bad way. You know what you do? You open hand. Well, I don't want to give advice. What's that movie? The Travis Browns. The people listen. Oh, you want to do what?

Mm-hmm. Okay. Now, do I hit him in the liver? Oh, that's not what I'm talking about. When Bernie Pulver's husband's like, keep going, Joe. Do you remember that movie, The Grifters, when the guy takes a pillowcase and he starts putting oranges in the pillowcase? And he goes, you know why I'm doing this. And Angelica Houston goes, yeah, yeah.

She can hit me. When you hit somebody with a pillowcase with oranges, it doesn't create any bruises. And she knows he's going to take a pillowcase with oranges. I don't think that's true. I love a pillowcase full of oranges hitting you in the face. You're fucked up, Calum. Yeah, you're going to black eye. I remember.

Your eyes are going to be swollen shut. No, he's going to hit her in the body. And I remember going, God damn, that's terrible. That's a terrible scene. That's some asshole who wrote a movie. Maybe, man. That's never beaten anybody up before. All I know.

This thing guys banning IVs. All I know is it's awful. I was like, that's a horrible thing. Fucking bullshit, man. A pillowcase with oranges and I'm going to beat the fuck out of you with it. What? That is awful. It's like the woman who killed a man with a frozen leg of lamb.

What? So she took a frozen leg of lamb, bashed him in the fucking head, and then cooked it and ate it. While he was sleeping. Fed it to her and her kids. I think apparently he was at the table, and she took it and just cracked him in the back of the head and bludgeoned him to death with a leg of lamb and then cooked it and ate it. Where did this happen? It was a long time ago.

I think it was in England or something. Yeah, England. England, that's funny you say Scotland. Jesus, man. Crazy, right? People kill people with everything. They come up with all kinds of ways. Skateboards.

Sure, people kill people with skateboards. If you can think of it, it's happening. You want to get rid of the body. That's why they say the mafia used to feed you to pigs, because they'll eat everything from your head. There's that Mexican cartel guy, I forget the name for it, but in Spanish it means

like porridge stew, because he would have this vat where he'd put the bodies in. Well, acid. They use acid. That's a true, they talked about this guy who he was involved in horse racing, and he turned out to be a member of the Zeta cartel. What was that? Remember that?

Those guys were really awful. Yeah, one of them for sure. And he used to, he was a big in the horse racing thing. And one of the testimonies was that the guy, he brought him out to talk to him because they were just a little suspicious. And another guy was walked out and he had a blindfold on and they just shot him. They do a whole lot of that way i do boom shot him and then put him in acid and they go look so we want to talk to you sorry about that and the guy starts throwing up you know and just terrified he goes sorry we had a nasty

business but anyway he's gone now just boiling away in acid just disappearing and he goes so we had to talk there's a rumor apparently that you're talking to cops. I know that's not true. Personally, I know. I just want you to know that I know it's not true. Anyway, you want to grab a beer? That's how they would kind of let you know, by the way, that if there's any question, you'll be in that Vado acid. Yeah, you might want to start planning your trip to Costa Rica.

You might want to fucking get some fucking plane ticket to Canada. When the feds come to talk to you and they say they're going to protect you, you might want to start planning your trip to Costa Rica. You might want to fucking get some fucking plane ticket to Canada. When the feds come to talk to you and they say they're going to protect you, you might want to. Finland's a good spot. You better get the fuck out of Mexico. I mean, how much easier was it to get away with crime back in the day than now, man? Oh, my God. You can't do shit now. You can't do anything now.

Well, they didn't even have fingerprints. Technology, yeah, man. They didn't even have fingerprints. I was watching a documentary on mobsters, like the American mob, which started in New York and all those guys. And you look at the whole setup they had. It's like, God, these days you're not doing that. Yeah, but you know what, man? I talked to some Philly detectives, like two long-time veteran detectives in Philadelphia.

I spent a lot of time with them. And I said, you know, he said, we don't rely. You'd be amazed at how we don't rely a lot of times on forensics and fingerprints. He said, when you're investigating a murder, they were homicide detectives. He said, when you're investigating a murder, you have to realize most people confess. Once you get them in questioning, what you're dealing with is they know in their hearts, they've been raised, even if you're a sociopath, you've been raised from a very young age to believe this, to know that this is the ultimate crime. You took another life. And by the time you get them in

there and you know how to properly interrogate somebody and really ask them questions and more importantly, get them on your side. Just go, listen, dude, listen, everybody does crazy shit once in a while. There's a radio lab podcast about that guy that was a very prolific serial killer in the pacific northwest with a river killer what was it green river killer and um seattle i think he was uh he was uh committing necrophilia yeah on a lot of these girls and they had to get him to admit it so they they talked to this guy and the the guy who was the interrogator he talked to him for six months every day he would sit down with this guy and the guy who was the interrogator, he talked to him for six months. Every day he would sit down with this guy for six months.

They would try to figure out what the fuck the guy did. And then slowly but surely over the course of the six months, the dude slowly started admitting all the different things that he did and admitted why he did it and admitted he did it just because he enjoyed it. And for a while, you know, he tried to say that the girl pissed him off. And he goes, did you enter into this knowing that she could make you upset and that you would wind up killing her? And he goes, yes. Yeah, I did.

I did. Well, why'd you do it? Because I had to do it. I had to kill. Richard Walter, who's an incredible profiler, said, I think it was like the Green River Killer. But the guy was clearly killing women and he said to the cops he said he said just just put a stake out at this site you will find him in his car he will be jerking off you'll find him he'll come back to the site he masturbates here and thinks about what he did sure enough that's how they caught him they

see they see a guy jerking off in his car looking down, right down where he buried the body. Jacking off. And they go, hey buddy, want to talk to you? Yeah, what are you doing?

And then they come in and that's, there are behaviors, this book, The Murder Room, is so fucking incredible. This guy, Richard Walter, there are behaviors

that people do, like certain guys will rape and kill a woman, but when they're raping her, if she dies in the process, they'll stop immediately because they don't want the cops to think they're freaks oh yeah all kinds of weird shit like that was the thing about this Green River guys and he didn't want them to know that he fucked them after they were dead right he didn't want to admit it because he had

an ego and the guy in the way he got him to do it he goes look at it's you wouldn't be the first guy a lot of guys have done that's right yeah he's like okay yeah I actually had to do it he goes look it's you wouldn't be the first guy a lot of guys have done that's right he's like oh okay yeah he goes yeah yeah i actually had to do that i didn't do that i do they used to they got a guy um a high-level terrorist who um had never seen porn and they started showing him porn oh and i said and he it was like the carrot and stick and he he was like you want to see more of this we'll show you more he's He's never seen porn? And he started talking just to see it. No, he came up in a very strict Islamic society. So he showed him some dicks looking?

Fuck yeah, man. Oh my God, shit, what do you want to know, Doug? With these really hot girls? So much excitement in my buns. Let me tell you something, man. Bella Donna and Asa Akira will get you talking if you haven't seen it. Bella Donna will get you throwing up when she puts that baseball bat up her ass. Listen, I can't do that.

Hey, don't talk badly about my girlfriend. But if Asa, yeah, I'll freaking tell you whatever you want to know. We had Asa on the podcast. She was fucking great. Asa Akira? Yeah, she was cool. Smart. Huh.

She's cool. He went like this. No, she was cool. Yeah, no, she's all right. Smart girl. I wouldn't go with fucking great. Would you? Great's intense.

Great's intense. Great might be a little intense. Too much of a big word. Are you a little hyperbole there? Maybe. Great might be a little intense. Too much of a big word. Are you a little hyperbole there? Maybe. I've never seen one of her porns. How about that? Fuck.

I haven't. What's wrong? I'd admit it if I had. I swear to God, I've never seen her. Not one. You've never seen her work? Not a one.

How dare you not do research before that episode? Well, I know she does. Because I went extensive. Yeah, she does some heavy shit, too. Almost too much. We're like, okay, well, that can't be fun. Well, on my podcast, she

said her skin was bad because she was taking in her dermatologist said, I think you're taking in too much testosterone. Too many loads? Yeah. Jesus Christ. That's when you got a whore on your hands. Brandon, are you suggesting Can you imagine if you take

in so many loads that it changes your biological profile? Can you imagine if you're just dating a girl and she's like, God, my fucking face keeps breaking out. What's happening? These fucking guys busting all over my face, man. No, but she's in her. You're ingesting. So much cum in her body.

Probably anally a lot of it. Yes. All anally. All anally. All anally. It doesn't make that noise when I'm coming, unless I'm farting, dude. Yeah, I've never had that noise come out of my dick. There's something hot about that, though, I thought.

I would agree with you. With Asa? I agree. I like a turbo slut instead. Always have, always will, John. Me too. Turbo slut. Contact Asa and have her print up that shirt immediately.

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I'll wear turbo slut. That's tough to market, my man. No, it's not. Not after this show. Hey, wear this. Hashtag turbo slut. I guarantee you, if you guys put out a turbo slut shirt. It'll sell out.

Yeah. Give it to guys. Give it to the girls. A limited edition for women. You don't have the balls. I say do it. You can fucking. Limited addition. Just make 20. They'll sell instantly exactly How many tweets we get now about turbo I want a turbo sludge they will yes, I agree where turbo so it's a great great word It was funny turbo slash slutter. Is it just turbo just turbo slut great designation. Is it one word or two words two words? I guess okay. Yeah, yeah words, I guess. Okay. Yeah.

Turbo Slut. Oh, you can just do hashtag Turbo Slut. Yeah. Hashtag Turbo Slut. Oh. Turbo Slut. That's going to, like, anything that happens in the news now from now on, hashtag Turbo Slut.

Turbo Slut. Yes. Anytime a girl does something fucked up, it's going to be hashtag Turbo Slut. Fucking Turbo Slut. A girl cheats on a man in the news. Turbo Slut. Hashtag Turbo Slut. Can work for guys, too, man.

Make that t-shirt. Hashtag Turbo Slut Can work for guys, too, man. Make that t-shirt. Hashtag turbo slut. I like it. For girls. We don't have any women's tea. We don't have any. Well, that's more of a guy's tea, I think. All right.

You think so? Tank top? What girl's going to wear it? I'm a turbo slut. Guys will buy it for their girl. You don't think Asa would wear it? Yeah. Okay, we got one sale.

Boom. Hey, man. Open the market of making money. Every girl in the suicide, those suicide girls. Fuck yes, they will. Those girls would all wear it. Turbo slut. Fuck yes. Hashtag turbo slut. Come on, son. I guarantee Whitney just for and for kicks and giggles Whitney Cummins would wear it he would not wear that she'd be as a joke she would know she's more of a feminist yeah we're not telling when you wear it cuz it's funny and so I disagree all right I'm talking for her dude I don't know if it works listen man I'll wear that how about we sell it on briankellen.com all right we'll figure it out no problem turbo fat k tfatk.com I like our website tfatk yeah well you guys have

a great fucking show I'll tell you that I love your podcast I'm so happy that you guys are doing it it's so cool to see so many people that have great podcasts now this is one of the best times ever for like listening to shit dude how about marin had the president of the united states in his garage i know i'm not crazy that's some shit man it's really weird crazy i was like proud as a podcaster like fuck yeah man it's really weird right yeah it's weird it's like wow this is this is these are weird man that's that's an interview you prepare for he wasn't you could tell he was nervous well how do you not be no I'm just saying you could like yeah yeah for sure it's in this garage leader in the free world yeah and

then he but he asked yes Obama said you know do you get nervous do stuff Obama base was like I'm in your garage I'm not that nervous I've talked to bigger crowds between two ferns with Zach Galifianakis. That was amazing. He did? And he was funny. He did? Yes, and he was really funny.

Wow. Zach Galifianakis is awesome. Yeah, Zach's always been the funniest person. Dude, you said on a recent podcast that you think Kevin Hart's the biggest comedian ever, all time. Yeah, I think he's the biggest in the United States. Bigger than Eddie Murphy. Yeah, oh, definitely. I love that guy.

Definitely, he is. He's bigger. He's bigger. He's bigger as far as what he could do, like arenas and stuff like that. But Russell Peters is the biggest internationally. So it's like Kevin Hart is the biggest in America, but Russell Peters sells out the O2 arena in London two nights in a row. Yeah, and he's great.

And Russell's just a great guy. Russell hosted last night at the Ice House in Pasadena. That's how humble he is. My show at the Ice House. Yeah. I called him up. I asked him if he wanted to do it. He goes, yeah, fuck yeah. He goes, can I host? I'm like, you can do whatever you want. He's how humble my show at the ice house yeah i called him up i asked him if you want to do he goes yeah yeah he goes can i host i'm like you can do

whatever you want he's so humble you can my wife you can take a on the stage you do whatever you want man you're russell peters he's truly humble and he's such a funny dude he gave me a brightling wow damn brussels seven thousand dollars watch russell i want a watch just give it to me he had it on i go that's a sweet watch he give it to me. He had it on. I go, that's a sweet watch. He goes, takes it off and he puts it on me. I go, I can't take your watch. And he goes, come on, take my fucking watch.

Damn. He's the best. Was he the coolest guy ever? Yeah, he is. He is one of the nicest human beings I've ever met in my life. He couldn't be more supportive

of comics, couldn't be more generous with taking guys on the road with him, promoting guys, helping guys out. Everything about him is great. And that's one of the reasons

why he's so successful. And loves the fight game, jujitsu, boxing. Oh, yeah. You think he's bigger than Kevin Hart? Internationally, he is. Internationally, he is. But Kevin Hart's bigger in the United States. He's so big.

Kevin Hart is so talented for me. He's one of those guys, I've worked with him twice, and he makes me laugh. He's always making people laugh. Always. He's very, very funny. Another generous guy. Very generous and super motivated. Yes. Crazy work ethic, right? Oh, generous guy. Very generous and super motivated. Yes.

Crazy work ethic, right? I love his work ethic. Me too. I go to his Instagram. He's always working out and doing all kinds of crazy shit. He's got an Instagram once. He's in the trailer. It's like 5 o'clock in the morning.

They've already been to the gym. He fucking flew in from another state. He did a concert last night in front of like fucking 30,000 people. Now he's on the movie set. All the other people in his trailer are falling asleep he's like look around look at my trainer my trainers fall asleep this ain't a lifestyle for everybody yeah he's a bad writing the one thing I see especially with comedians a lot of you guys all you guys have crazy work ethics I feel like if you have to be yeah you

have to like to the stain age right to create material yeah to create new material all the time you have to you have to constantly be on stage you have to like to the stain age right to create material Yeah to create new material all the time going through that you have to you have to constantly be on stage You have to constantly be writing you have to constantly be thinking Madison Square Garden. He sold out three shows dude get the fuck out of here He deserves it. He's making history people Madison Square Garden sold out three Look at the audience. He's a he's a star. Scroll down so you can see that better. Gold mic with a gold mic! It won't let you scroll down anymore?

No? Damn, look at that. Oh, that's it? That's the image? It's insane. He's got a gold mic? Oh my God, he has a gold mic. That's a gold mic, motherfucker.

He uses a gold microphone. That's hilarious. Damn right he does. Why not? Why wouldn't he? Why not? Why would you want a silver one? He's always been, he's such a generous person.

He's such a good guy. Well, I told you I met him, we was out with his kids and his girlfriend once and I ran into him and he was like, couldn't be friendlier. I'd never met him before. But I met him and he immediately gives me this giant hug. He's super friendly. He loves to play. Do you know who could have been almost as big as him if certain things would have went

his way? Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle at the time was fucking big, man. He still could be. He still could be if he wanted to. Dave Chappelle's's yeah absolutely dave chapelle's a different different animal different animal dave chapelle likes to show up with a microphone and a speaker do a show in a park like he's done he's been doing that since he was 17. yeah he's a monster he's he's very very very very funny man super talented yeah and he's still in his show the chapelle show was huge and then he just disappeared right because he didn't like the way things were going well they were trying to get him to listen to them and do their show hit

their way and they wanted him to stop saying the n-word there was all sorts of shit was going on they were you know they had a big DVD deal on the table it was like 50 million dollars and he's like you know what I'm gonna do whatever I want to do so fuck off and just went dollars and he was like you know what I'm gonna do whatever I wanna do so fuck off and just went to Africa I think both his parents are professors aren't they? I don't know but I know still to this day

he's doing great but he's not the guy like he's not a Kevin Hart guy he smokes cigarettes he believes in conspiracy theories he works out a little bit but he's not the kind of healthy that Kevin Hart is Kevin Hart is like he's gonna be like Oprah I watched Kevin Hart wrestle with Laurence Fishburne They we shot this scene where he was he had to basically have a fight with okay

You want to talk about athletic and explosive he might be 5'4", but I've never he was we were all going look at how fucking fast He moves and he was doing it comedically like Under his legs and Lawrence is a big guy And it was just like I was kind of taken aback with just how long he was able to keep that shit up doing his Own stunts jumping through the air jive diving. He was very fit fucking fit man. Well, here's videos He puts on Instagram him working out every morning and he does crazy shit like which line I wish you know, I wish you would ditch the workout gloves though. He's a little workout clothes That's but a lot of guys don't want to have cows had when he squats like bro. Oh really

Doing everything can though you know Just say you know you guys are you don't use your bar on your big back pad Do you say pad I'm a bar. I mean a pad a pad you don't use a pad on the bar She's never really son you put that fucking bar on your back and just squat can't do that man Did you say pad on the bar? I mean a pad. A pad. You don't use a pad on the bar? Never. Really? Son. You put that fucking bar on your back and just squat down. Can't do that, man. Really? You just can't do that. It's not allowed.

Man to fuck up, Brian Callen. Dude, I use chin-ups with gloves on. Do you wear gloves? I don't use chin-ups. I don't use gloves. I should, maybe, because I do a lot more. A lot more, you guys. A lot more.

A deadlift, though. A deadlift without. I use gloves with my deadlift. Oh, yeah, do you? Did you spar yesterday? Yes, you guys. A lot more. A deadlift, though. A deadlift without... I use gloves on my deadlift, dude. Oh, yeah, do you? Did you spar yesterday? Did you spar yesterday? Yes, I did. Did you get hit in the head?

I was sparring somebody who wasn't... You still get hit in the head? Wasn't mobile. I didn't get hit in the head. You didn't get hit once. No. I have a hard time believing that. I did spar Wayne the night before, and Wayne did hit me in my face once with a good right.

So you sparred a guy so shitty, he didn't land one shot? What are you, Roy Jones Jr.? What are you, a bully? Travis Brown? He probably is not the most athletic guy, that's correct, and so I did not get in. Who are you sparring? Some guy who's like an accountant? Wayne puts me in with different

dudes and not, you know. Do you spar the shit guy from Million Dollar Baby? I don't want to talk badly, and if you don't mind, can you keep your... He didn't touch you? Please keep your... No, he did not. Can you keep your references down?

So next time you spar him, you need to say, hey, I'm going to go beat this kid up. I've been sparring with Wayne, who... You're not sparring with Wayne. I know that. I'm just saying that he throws punches at me, and I'm learning how to move. Let's explain who Wayne is. Wayne McCullough. You're talking Wayne McCullough, multiple-time world boxing champion.

One of the great men. One of my favorite people in the world. And I train with him all the time because I get to train with him. And he teaches me the way you're probably supposed to teach, which is he'll throw shots at me, not full, obviously. But you learn a little bit of how to move if you're working with a guy that good. And then you get with a guy who's not good, you're going to be able to move a little better. Did you see that he's involved in that semicolon thing where you get tattooed a semicolon

on your arm to let you know that life's not over, there's more to go. There's more to the story. Why the fuck would we do that? Anti-depression movement thing. Well, he dealt with some stuff. I don't know how vocal he is, but I know

being a fighter and having 350 fights, maybe he had, I don't want to speak out of turn, but I know he's been maybe involved in some of that stuff. But anyway. So they get these tattoos that say they beat depression? A dot with a comma on it, a semicolon, which indicates there's more to come in the sentence. You don't end a sentence with that.

There's more to come. I haven't talked to him about that, but he's just one of those guys Instagram, okay? Yeah, he's off the yep He's one of those dudes. I love being around because he's just such a humble Motherfucker such a nice guy and and and it's like you're gonna teach me and he really like he really like no matter when where he's Always there always present and just such a fucking amazing McGregor loves I gave him a hug on his way to lock Oh, yeah, I consider a legend in Ireland super legend it's like him and Barry McGuigan are the two biggest boxers from Ireland pretty much ever that's why I'm I'm oh I like I'm always so flattered that I even get to train with someone like that well yeah but you said spar with

him well what I'm saying is that he'll move around and punch me yeah he'll punch me in the face if I don't have my hands up but we do do spar. He puts on headgear and he puts on, and we'll go, you know, and, you know, he's not opening up on me. He's not trying to kill you, but he does hit you a little bit. No, but you learn, and when you do that with someone like that and then you go with somebody who's not you know, close to that, you can get

out of the way. Do you have any concern whatsoever about getting punched in the head? No, because I'm not getting punched that much. See, that's the problem. But even when Wayne hits you, that counts, my man. It's worth it to me. It's worth it. Yeah, I love boxing, and I love the feeling. You know who spars a lot?

Louis C.K. Really? Yeah, we had a conversation about it. He goes, I love it. I just love it. I love it. I love doing it. Yeah.

But a guy who loves it also may not be getting, again, like it's one thing to get really hit. If you get even a good jab and you got a big headache, that's what I avoid. Because if you're fighting like Rocky at the gym who fights a lot now, that kick can really hit. Well. Well, for me, he's 185 pounds and he can punch. I asked Louie about it and he was like, the thrill. He loves the thrill. Loves the thrill of sparring.

I just don't get it. If you're making money off your brain, I don't get why you would he's not just a language you're learning it's really hard it hasn't been a detriment yeah yeah and so he's willing to take the chance for the thrill i like it because it's so hard i like it because it's close to impossible for some people the the feeling of being alive and taking any kind of risk and problem solving in a very like scary i get it you know what i mean that's for me what it is problem solving in a very scary way. I get it. You know what I mean? That's for me what it is. Problem solving and learning patterns and seeing it actually work sometimes.

It charges you up. It makes you excited about doing other shit because of that. For a lot of people. I get it. 100%. For you, it's different because you were, first of all, at the highest level there is, professional UFC, and you're sparring with guys like Shane Carwin, which is not even a little bit fun. I can't even imagine that.

I can't imagine. You couldn't pay me to go to a boxing gym right now. I'll do jiu-jitsu, but if you said, hey, Brendan, come down here and let's box. Shout out to Box and Burn, though. Number one gym in California, according to Men's Fitness. Tony Jeffries and Wayne McCulloch. If you guys want to learn boxing,

it's a great place to work out. Hey, let's wrap this up, because I've got to get the fuck out of here. All right. So big fucking fight this weekend. Huge fights. It's going to be fun. Come see me in Denver. Your pick.

Your pick. What happens? On the main event? Mendez McGregor. Come on, son. If I'm betting money, I'm taking Mendez. My heart says Conor. Damn.

Brian Callen? I got Conor McGregor. Really? I got Conor McGregor. Really? I do. I think he hits harder than people know and realize. I think he's going to connect. I think he's going to connect. I think he's bigger.

It's a different kind of fighter for Chad Mendez. I think he's going to... I hope you're right. We actually have a bet on it. T-shirt sales of July. That's right. The whole month of T-shirt sales? That's right.

That's no pun. That's the month I'm going to start Instagramming it. You motherfucker. Someone's going to win, baby. We don't drop Turbo Slut until August. Just promise me that. I'm dropping those next week, son. Come on, man.

That was my idea. All of a sudden, Turbo Slut's going to be a big seller. See? Exactly. Before, the conversation was Turbo Slut's really not worth doing. Yeah, now we're like, what? Hashtag Turbo Slut. It's going to be good. But that as a shirt, now we're like, what? Hashtag turbo slut. It's going to be good.

But that as a shirt, hashtag turbo slut, I think that'll sell. Me too. Simple. Keep it simple. The one I'm excited about is I have a never grow up, and it's Peter Pan that looks like Brian Callen. It says fighting the kid on the back. I like that.

I like that. And then we have a big brown Master Kim tee dropping. No, no, big brown bear. Big brown bear. Based on our song. Who do you have in this fight, can you say? I would say if I really had an inclination. Okay.

I don't know. What about Rory, Robbie? How bad does that fight get overlooked since Connor? Very bad. It's crazy. It's overlooked. It's really a shame because I love that fight. Just as good a fight.

But they're going to get a piece of the pay-per-view, so they're going to benefit anyway. But I think that Rory McDonald and Robbie Lawler is a very fucking tough fight to call. We talked about it. I don't know what the fuck's going to happen. And I don't know what the fuck's going to happen in the main event either. I don't have an opinion. I don't either. That's why this is so exciting.

I don't either. But I know that's the biggest challenge Conor's ever faced. Hands down. But that's what we were saying before he fought Poirier. And he knocked out Poirier in the first round. And then does this. I love Poirier, but Mendes is saying before he fought Poirier, and he knocked out Poirier in the first round. And then does this. I love Poirier, but Mendes is a far cry from Poirier.

Are we doing another Fight Companion? Fight Companion Saturday. You guys are going to do a Fight Companion without me in my studio. I'm nervous, Joe Rogan! I'm excited. I like it. Our first one without the man. Is Eddie Bravo going to do it?

He's supposed to get back to me. I said, hey man, we're going to do Companion. He goes, without Rogan? That's crazy. I went, if you're scared, I get it. Fighter and the Kid. What is the website? TFATK.com T-F-A-T-K.com

TheFighterAndTheKid.com FighterAndTheKid on iTunes. Brian Callen on Twitter with a Y. Come see me in Denver next weekend, July 16th, 17th, 18th at Comedy Works downtown. And he's with me in Chicago at the Chicago Theater. Good googly moogly Chicago. Can't wait. Brendan Schaub on Twitter and Instagram as well.

All right, you fucks. We love the fuck out of you. And we'll see you soon. Much love, everybody. Peace. Oh, that fucks. We love the fuck out of you. And we'll see you soon. Much love, everybody. Oh, that's good.