The Joe Rogan Experience - #701 - Honey Honey (Part 2)

Episode Date: September 28, 2015

Honey Honey is a band, featuring members Suzanne Santo and Ben Jaffe, from Los Angeles, CA. They released a new album this summer called "3" and are currently touring all over -- http://honeyhoneyband.com/events

I'm really working hard on not being sorry Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back If this is your first voyage with us You picked a very strange part of the journey This is part two of the Honey Honey podcast Part one, there was a lot of alcohol and marijuana in the room allegedly And some things were said We're not really sure

Yeah, we don't know what happened Some things were said we don't even know what the we said after it was over are we okay did we do anything wrong give us another chance but uh what is this whiskey that you uh basil hayden people have brought what does that mean basil hayden's h-y-d it means fun times it does it means good, in-depth conversation. They invented that shit when people thought dragons were real. They were worried dragons were going to fly out of castles. Oh, my God. Drink some of that.

Fucking hammered, drinking that. But I'm pretty sure we're okay. I don't think we said anything that fucked up. No. I feel good. But I'm not married to anything I just said. Yeah, it's easier that way. I just want to let everybody know, if I piss you off, I'll probably piss me off, too.

If I go off and listen to me while I'm sober, I'm like, idiot, shut up. Shut the fuck up. So I'm right there with you. We're just trying to do the best we can, ladies and gentlemen. This strange, strange world. strange world this world really is we're spinning around yeah they found water on mars today what today just got real big talk big time nasa we're going there aren't we um to live we not me and you no don't everybody. Suzanne, I won't let you guys go. Let's get all our friends.

It'll be a big party. Fuck all that. We'll bring the music. You bring the funny. No. Jamie, you bring the food. Chose out, Suze. And the clean shading.

I say we stay in the spot that's already awesome. There's not a lot of time. Yeah, it's really nice here. Yeah, this is the best spot we have ever seen. We should just take, you know. Sending rockets into space since the 1950s. this is the best spot we have ever seen. We should just take, you know. Send in rockets into space since the 1950s. This is the best spot by far. Did we ever tell you about our car?

The Escalade? The Escalade? Yes, I think so. Used, like I said, used 2007. We went into the manual. We got a great deal on it. We didn't want to buy a van. We were like, there's four of us.

We can, like, make do with this. That's a better move. It was a good move. You don't look suspicious. We went't want to buy a van. We were like, there's four of us. We can make do with this. That's a better move. It was a good move. You don't look suspicious. We went into the user manual to figure out how to use all the fucking spaceship buttons. Former owner registration falls out. Ben, who was it? Set up.

Ben. Elon Musk. Good googly moogly. Do you worry that now the government is spying on you through Elon Musk's former vehicle? Maybe. To keep tabs on you in case this is all some sort of a scam? Like Elon Musk, big fan of Honey Honey Band, says, listen guys, I need you to take a Cadillac off my hands. Can you make us an electric SUV, Elon?

Please. It would be great. Thanks. I have to go. Bye. It's a clone signal, the same one as in the back of my Tesla, that goes zero to 60 in one second. He's controlling the vehicle. They have these cars.

He's creating these cars that are literally like, what's the most time you need speed? The most time you need speed is like at a red light. At a red light, stop to go, or merging onto a highway, right? If you're trying to merge onto a highway, that's the only time you legitimately need horsepower. That's the only time. Well, this guy is creating a car that's in that way as fast as anything that you could buy ever. It's like a Ferrari. Ridiculously fast.

Maybe even faster than a Ferrari. Are you going to get one? No. Not feeling it? Have you thought about this very much? Yes. If the apocalypse comes, you're going to need gasoline. You're going to need to burn things.

What if there's a solar-powered element to it, though, the electricity? I'm in. Is that possible? Yes. If they can figure out solar to the point where they make some dope paint that's also like solar collecting and is like a solar panel like why does a solar panel have to look like uh like the inside of an air conditioning filter why does that look stupid why can't solar panels look dope why can't the whole car be just solar panels you know why don't

you make some slick ass solar panels i'm working on it jesus. She's on it. Santo's on it. Yeah, look. I do other things. You know they're working on it. They're working on it. If they ever figure out a way to make a car that is 100% solar in California, like a Tesla,

like a really high-end, beautiful car that also you never need to plug in. Game over. The batteries are so efficient. I don't think they're that far away from that. I mean, when I say that far, I think like 100 efficient. I don't think they're that far away from that.

I mean, when I say that far, I think like 100 years. I don't think they're that far away from that. No, not even that far. I mean, I think they already have that. They're just hiding it because the gas situation is fucking government, Joe. The government. Government totally sucks. Motherfucker, the government totally sucks.

Is that a song? Tenacious D. Come on, Tenacious D. Oh, I don't... I'm so out of the loop. There's not enough time. It's okay. There's still time.

There is way still time. No, that's all I'm saying. In the day, if you're a Tenacious D fan, don't get mad at me. I've enjoyed a lot of their work. It's not what's going on here. It's just not enough time

to know their song. It's just a breath away. You gotta pick. You gotta pick your moments. It's just not enough time to know that. You gotta pick your moments. Too much fucking material out there. And we're all making more of it. That's how we do it.

Make some fucking more. That's the craziest thing about music, if you really stop and think about it. At the break, we were talking about Beethoven, and we were talking about all the different notes and the different notes and the the different things that they created way back then that you can still recreate today that's just being able to notate you know we can play music that was

invented before there's recording technology or that was the recording technology it's like this is how that sounds we'll figure out a way to write this and now you can interpret that and make the same sound right and if you go back to then how many people wrote music like that? Was a number of published works Year Mozart was it most like people aren't fully aware of what Mozart Actually wrote as opposed to like his family members contributed and stuff. Is that weird? That was Bach some of that. He's made. Excuse me. The point is there wasn't

much being notated at least because who had the education to do that? You needed tons of money. You'd have to get people with serious money to sponsor your life. And there just weren't that many. It's also like that Tony Hawk, Lance Armstrong thing where it's like there's a couple

famous dudes in that field but everybody else, who the fuck? Okay, Beethoven, Bach. Mozart, Chopin. Who are those other dudes? Okay, there's like a couple other dudes that are like in the periphery. There's like three. I got room for three or four major dead pianists.

Well, there's certain outliers. Yeah. They're so fucking good, though. That's the thing about it. It's like all these contributing factors to the environment is like Malcolm Glad being an outlier. It's like Malcolm Gladwell's outliers. It's like there's all these things that have to happen.

I'm sure there were other people that had these magical ears. They just didn't have the resources to build it like Beethoven or Bach or Mozart did. And the arts, like the Medici family, who were benefactors to these people that flourished because of their incredible amount of wealth. It's just certain things. That was the chair. I didn't fart. Just making that clear.

It was like straight up. I want to talk about this. Oh my God. Here we are. What happened to us? So many things. We were so smooth. We were so smooth.

Joe. We were on top of it. We're still smooth. We are. Our feelings are like right up front. Yep. They're right there. There's no need for us to talk about why you guys were upset at each other a few days ago.

Definitely not. Definitely not. We don't need to talk about that. No need for that. I think we went through two and a half hours of awesome psychoanalysis. Go back and listen to that shit afterwards.

We're going to be like... No, you said some really beautiful shit. I'm not kidding. Whether people want to listen to it or not, we appreciate it. It's all lies. I made it up on the spot. It's all your fault.

They work. They work. We'll take the front, the falsified information. You ever listen to classical music, speaking of Beethoven or anyone? I try. I try. Yeah, it's difficult. I decide sometimes I'm going to listen to it.

Like when I write, I'll put it on headphones on an airplane. Yeah. It's hard to navigate because there's so much shit. And it's like, you know, it's historical at this point. Some of it's like really energizing, though. It's not like, it's like da- because there's so much shit and it's like you know it's historical at this point some of it's like really energizing though it's not like it's like da da da da

like that doesn't like make you fall asleep that's like like oh my god like let's get up it's also conquer the day the other problem with it is

like as a person who makes stuff I always look at it as like just some crazy cover band because it's not really Mozart Mozart's dead as fuck yeah like even if they cover band because it's not really mozart mozart's dead as

fuck yeah like even if they're nailing it even if they're they're nailing what he was asking for it's not him doing it half of the star spangled banner is not the noise it's knowing that jimmy hendrix did that at woodstock in 1969. That's half of what it is. It's like the sound that I hear from a Sturgill Simpson song or a Honey Honey song or fucking Run DMC, anybody. It's like that's their shit and it's coming out of them. It's not a cover band. It's their words with their enunciations.

Boom, bitch. I mean, that's what it is. I mean, that's what I want. I don't want to hear, like, somebody recreating. I understand it. I mean, I understand that it's compelling and amazing and artistic and so integral to the structure of music even today. Yeah.

But whatever. I'm not interested yeah man that's really interesting to hear you know what i mean because i come from a total or just desire to always fucking hear that shit and feel you know listening to music in a way to be like i don't know how to describe it i guess but in a way that's a different glance of what you're talking about you know the idea of like you want to hear somebody express themselves i want to hear but in a way that's a different glance at what you're talking about. You know, the idea of, like, you want to hear somebody express themselves. I want to hear the person.

But I want to hear, like, when you're playing guitar, I know that's Ben scratching those wires. Yeah. That's you doing that. You know what I'm saying? No, that's such a. I hear you. Yeah. You know, like, you come through that.

And there's nothing wrong with the, they didn't have the ability to transmit this information any other way than write it down in notes and then sell these books. I mean it gets 100 years, 200 years, 300 years. It's the only way to do it. They didn't have any other way. But we have a better way now.

Yeah, you're right. And it's funny, there's a certain, maybe it's not indulgence, maybe it is, but I was thinking about it while you said that. It's like, well, I just like listening to those sounds. You know what I mean? Whether Mozart's making it, I just like that sound. Oh, yeah.

And that's cool, but it's also something that you do in your free time. You have time to sit down and say, I'm gonna appreciate some sounds, as opposed to what you're talking about. It's like, I'm gonna hear a person. You're right, you're right. In that sense, I'm going to appreciate some sounds as opposed to what you're talking about. It's like, I'm going to hear a person. You're right. You're right. You know, in that sense, I'm wrong because it's really two completely different things. It's like one of them is a

beautiful orchestration of sounds. And the other one is a person's like expression coming through, especially with the addition of language, the addition of songs and songwriting and the words like it's really almost it's like the difference between it's almost like completely different artistic endeavors well it almost feels like those like mozart sounds are like genetically passed down or something like they've been around for so long that like they become this like you feel them in your body when you hear it. You feel this physical reaction to them in this way. As you do

songwritten vocal expressions, but they're so old that there's something really interesting that happens from this traditional reaction to it. You know what I think would be the shit? No, what?

Crash from the float lab in Venice has developed some crazy underwater speaker system that's waterproof. Oh, yeah, he's such a wizard. Oh, my God. This fucking dude created that, and he also has been working forever on this idea of a screen that emits the lowest amount of light possible

So that could be suspended from you in front of your face when you're in the tank and you could see these images almost like they're floating in the air like you Can't see a television. You only see the images and like in this sensory deprived situation you figure But he's got these speakers that he has figured out how to submerge like in the water next to that and it gives you the stereo sound in the water where it vibrates off of your body like you feel it you feel it on your arms and your legs you feel it uh-huh yeah I mean that's what and that's what it all is which is such a crazy it's just one what's it Oh crazy I thought Jamie was playing the sounds I was like And that's what it all is, which is such a crazy... It's Joe's phone. Oh, yeah.

I thought Jamie was playing the sounds. I was like, I want to hear them. I've never done it. I haven't done this new system he's got. Yeah. But he's always trying to innovate. But in that way, he said that you feel the music. You feel it through the water. Oh, my God, yeah.

Which is fascinating. Yeah. That music, if it's done through one of those things, like this is just one step. This guy's got a couple of speakers. What if they insert them through the entire base of an isolation tank and then program

music like they do those South American Icaros with the shamans when they do the ayahuasca ceremonies? Yeah, it's like sound therapy. What if they figured out a way to get you into some fucking crazy trance? Like we were talking about how houses have certain frequencies and they make you go nuts. You know, maybe there's like a certain...

Well, some people do, like some... Jimi Hendrix did that. He talks about it sometimes too. He's like, you get five minutes, six minutes into some of this music he's making and people kind of fall into a different state you know there's a different place i guess what i'm saying is like people are looking for it and a lot of musicians that's what it's based on you know it's like how can i make this shit shake to kind of cast a spell without you know maybe that's not the best way to put it but it's like i'm trying to affect you with i don't think you can do it

intentionally almost i think it's like you go to a different you with rattling shit. I don't think you can do it intentionally almost. I think it's like you go to a different place. If you're really trying to do something like that, it's like a weird... Maybe I sound crazy. I think we try to do it all the time. Maybe you don't think about it that way, but what you're doing is trying to connect with people and express yourself,

and you're doing it vibrationally. Fucking hippie talk, ladies and gentlemen. it's hippie talk i agree with that's the problem with hippie talk comes from the mouth of hippies occasionally god damn it you're discrediting discrediting all these interesting ideas um you guys want to play some music sure let's do it what do you want to play um I'm going to play Bad People. Sure. Tell me the punk kid story because I'm frustrated. What are you frustrated about? Because I love that song. That song has not died. You want to hear a song first? Yes. Okay. Whatever you want to do. Let's play Bad People. I'm going to take these off, I

think. Is that okay, Jamie? I'll just sing. We just want to put it on our next record. Yeah. Okay. Good move. The legend will grow. There was some record company incongruencies that, like, we weren't able to do the things we wanted with it. We protected it by saying, wait.

Good move. It's a good song. It's a weird song, too. It's a song that's got a lot of layers to it There's a lot going on A lot going on in that song A lot of weird shit Are we good to go?

Can we just do it? Yeah, whenever I'm recording I ain't the gatekeeper, I ain't the judge I ain't the one who didn't love you enough I'm just sitting in my own front yard Wishing the rain didn't fall so hard You got twisted, you got stuck You're listed in your own bad luck tried your best to be

the worst you must like it that you're cursed and don't think it won't come back to you bad people don't come from nothing at all bad people don't come from nothing at all Bad people don't come from nothing at all Crashing and banging and burning and falling Bad people don't come from nothing at all Oh, Jimmy was a broken boy Single mom out of Illinois. Bred like a pit bull looking for a fight.

Cracked on his nose, he was bloody all his life. Called loneliness like an epidemic. Now he cashed a check and he won't regret it. Ain't no lovers left or friends. Self-defined as a dead end and down. friends self-defying is it dead and down think he ain't a part of you bad people don't come from nothing at all bad people don't come from nothing at all.

Oh baby, tell me what you need. Come on and lay it on me. I don't care what you believe We all got some darkness up our sleeves Yeah, we all got some darkness up our sleeves Mmm Some pull us down and some pull us through Baby, it's a toss-up how you do Maybe someone decides for you. Maybe you don't even get to choose.

And I, I don't know what's best for you. Bad people don't come from nothing at all Bad people don't come from nothing at all From crashing and banging and burning and falling Bad people don't come from nothing Bad people Don't come from nothing at all Don't come from nothing at all Don't come from nothing at all

God damn you guys We gotta let that end How dare both of you How dare both of you For being so awesome God damn that was good You know what was really cool People that are listening to this

Only you don't know That Suzanne adjusted Ben's glasses in the middle of the song. Ben's glasses started to slip, and Suzanne, like a mama bear, came over and set you straight. It happens a lot. But in the middle of singing without missing a beat, it was beautiful. You were looking for the moment to reach towards his face. Hello, I'm coming in. I'm coming in. Watch my hand. Here it goes. Fixing your like looking for the moment to reach towards his face. Hello, I'm coming in. I'm coming in.

Watch my hand. Here it goes. Fixing your glasses. And he started to slide down his nose. Yeah, there's nothing he can do about it. He can't break those. He needs them. Don't be scared of one of them rubber band things.

Man, I'm looking for them. You need like a strap. Yeah. A strap. Yeah, dude, the crookie. Yeah. Just something like we snap down like ski goggles.

One day, they're just going to have a shot. Just going gonna shoot something in your eyeballs they're gonna be no he doesn't want that my dad gets that he's terrified yeah he's got macular degeneration so he gets injections in his eyeball oh yeah it's crazy Lord like if you could either go blind right or get hypodermic needles shot into your eyes every month. Would you do it? I'll take a month.

Every month. Every month. Okay. Yeah. Maybe it's easy. Because I'm not a pussy and I like looking at shit. Dang. Oh my God.

Okay. God, you're so tough. That's amazing. Hardcore. No, anybody's ever answered that question. Wait, Joe doesn't say that he's hardcore, remember? Can't say it. He's medium core.

Can't say it. No, but don't know you're a poser. he's hardcore, remember? Can't say it. He's medium core. Can't say it, annoying butt. Don't know you're a poser. I'm hardcore, bro. I was part of the hardcore, hardcore scene. There was hardcore guys. There was a bunch of guys who didn't believe that the guys who were calling Did you wear a lot of leather? I didn't.

I wore suede. I wore this kind of suede like that I should have wore if I was like on a stagecoach in the 1700s. Oh, my gosh. Tassels. I wore mocc. I wore this kind of suede that I should have wore if I was on a stagecoach in the 1700s. Oh, my God. With little tassels. Tassels. I wore moccasins only. What?

I wanted to tip-throw through the woods. Making shit up. Moccasins seem cool. I wish I wore them more. It's interesting how all you have to do is wear a dead animal skin in a dark color and you're a rebel. You know, like the black leather jacket in the 1950s, especially with the little silver buttons. Oh, what a statement. Well, that's what I

love about fashion. I think there's some really interesting, like, things in there. Like, people have these, like, connections to certain elements of, like, what you put on your body. Sure. I think it's fascinating. That's why you need, all you people out there need to respect Rob Halford. Okay? Who's that? Rob Halford.

Dude, Judas Priest? Oh. How dare you? Well, look, out there need to respect Rob Halford okay who's that Rob Halford to Judas Priest oh dare you look I mean that guy was probably one of the first openly gay singers of fucking a band metal band. And he got everybody to dress like him. Win, win. Leather daddies everywhere. Leather daddies. You guys thought you were metal, but you really were.

It's the same thing, I guess. You were kind of gay. You didn't even know. You didn't even, he got you. He got you. He sucked you into his web. Brilliant. That's how badass he was.

I had him on one of the, I did this show once for ES,, not ESPN, VH1. And he was one of the guests on the show. I got to hang out with that guy for like an hour. That's awesome. Was it cool? It was so cool. But it was so weird.

It was like, God damn, I'm sitting here talking to rock and roll royalty. That's amazing. You know? When I was in high school, I had this friend that was obsessed with Judas Priest. You think I'll let him sit around and pick away my brain? Out there is a fortune waiting to be had. This fucking kid, man. His life sucked.

His life sucked. His dad sucked. His situation sucked. You got another thing coming. His situation sucked. You got another thing coming. That fucking song, You Got Another Thing Coming, fueled that dude through high school. I swear to God it did.

It's awesome. That's the crazy thing about what you guys do. Like, music can be heard. It's like fuel. There's something to it. Like, didn't Hunter Thompson have an amazing quote that he thinks of music as inspiration or is it fuel he i think he said fuel and he said that when you listen to it you swear that you can get i'm shittily paraphrasing what he said but it was like you you could you feel like you could drive further on an empty tank of gas that you can just

keep going like it'll allow you to go, like, 20% longer or something like that. I forget what his actual quote was. But it's true. Like, there's something happens when a song. You got another thing coming. Dun, dun. Like, you feel stronger. Right?

If you were at the gym. Some songs also, like, bring you back to this place that you'll never, like, that always bring you back to this place that you'll never like that Always bring you back there like they'll bring you back to like like this childhood of like nobody can fucking touch that Yeah, like this this summer every time I listen to the fucking this song You know it brings me back to this time where I'm like it almost makes you giddy Hunter S Thompson Here's the quote music has always been a matter of energy to me a question of fuel Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what it really means is fuel.

I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights, I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Perfect. Beautiful. Boy, did I butcher that. I haven't read that in forever.

No, that was fucking great. You did great, Joe. You did a great shitty paraphrase job. AC Deucy? AC Deucy. For me, it was Suicidal Tendencies. You Can't Bring Me Down. This is the greatest weightlifting song of all.

I swear to God, I'm 10% stronger. You can't bring me down. You can't bring me down. You ever heard of Suicidal Tendencies? Absolutely. Fuck yeah, right? Yeah. I used to work at a bar in Venice, and they would come in and play sometimes.

Oh, of course. That you can't bring me down, anybody who listens to that, you can lift more weights. You become stronger. There it is. You become stronger. You can run. You can be angry. Sorry.

Sorry to interrupt. But that gave me a question in my mind. I just learned about estrogen blockers. Okay? How do you feel about it? Oh, someone. Someone with an estrogen blockers. Okay? How do you feel about it? Someone. Someone with an estrogen blocker. I feel the same way that I have with roach motels.

If you need them, you should get them. Okay. Oh, my God. Somebody just blew my mind the other week. He was like, I don't know. I mean, if you have a headache, you should get aspirin. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

What's going on, man? I was talking to somebody about building muscle, and if you have a headache, you should get aspirin. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. What's going on, man? I was talking to somebody about building muscle, and he was like, dude, you should. The real problem with those things is what they're really good for is if someone is coming off of a steroid. Because when you take a steroid, your endocrine system suffers, stops producing testosterone. And these things, they're called Clomid is one of them. And there's a couple other different companies that make a similar product. And it increases your body's ability to produce testosterone. It has this affection, blocking the estrogen.

You produce more testosterone, your body tries to seek some sort of a balance. You sort of trick it. the estrogen, you produce more testosterone, your body tries to seek some sort of a balance and you sort of trick it. Yeah. But I think we know so little about what does and doesn't work for you. There's a lot of experimentation going on. Like, well, maybe he needs a this or maybe he needs a that. How old is he?

Hmm, what's his background? But you can get this stuff over the counter, right? Yeah, but it's like, what have you done before you decide to do that this is like if anybody ever wants to do something if they ever want to go hey man i'm thinking about getting into a hardcore workout program how many days in a row have you worked out be honest me no no this is what i said this dude and they're like two i'm like dude you fuck you fucker listen if you want to if you want to start running marathons you got to run every day bitch okay i can't just keep talking to you. You're talking nonsense, right? And if you're saying, well, I'm thinking about taking estrogen blockers.

How many days do you lift weights? How often? How sore are you? A little bit sore. But I don't even do it. It's never going to work. That's the thing. But if you want to do it, the first thing you do before you think about estrogen blockers

or any crazy, is just be consistent it's the most important thing it's more important than anything it's more important even than the amount of weight that you lift it's the frequency in which you engage in the act of going to the gym and exerting yourself yeah if you can consistently work out together no not every time we talked to this earlier but time to do it but this. Not every time. But this applies to everybody. This applies to everybody. It's available to everybody. You could just take this shit and from there.

No, no. You need a prescription. You do need a prescription. Yes. Unless it doesn't work. I mean, unless it's fake. There's some fake ones that people make. Forgive me.

Forgive my ignorance. But is this anything that transgender people would take to? No, no, no, no. This is a different. that like transgender people would take to? No, no, no, no. This is a different. It's really to try to stimulate growth of,

or stimulate the reproduction of testosterone by like trying to fuck with the balance. Like by suppressing estrogen, you sort of try to elevate, your body elevates testosterone. There's like some wrestling match going on. So why wouldn't a transgender person take that? Because they need hardcore chemicals. Oh, they need more than that.

Yeah, they need bio-identical hormones that are in whatever gender they identify with, they decide to transition into, which is one of the, I mean, objectively, non-judgmentally, but objectively, it's one of the oddest things about the whole idea. It sounds so intense. Well, it's not just that, like, this is who you are. It's like this is who you're also putting hormones in your body to become. Like what it seems like you feel like you should be. So there's many layers in a totally non-judgmental sense.

No one's telling you to not do it at all. But there's a lot going on there. It's not just identifying with something. It's choosing to transition into something. There's a lot. It's like there's some serious complexity to all this. And in a nonjudgmental way, it's very fascinating. It's very fascinating that we're becoming more and more comfortable with it.

Because ultimately, isn't it really, when it's all over, ultimately, who gives a fuck? Like jokes aside aside laughing aside uh serious hot debates who cares if you want to be a a man if you want to be a woman if you want to be both you want to switch back and forth there was a guy on one of the npr it was on a radio lab a guy who switches back and forth he's like sometimes he's a woman i'm a man now he just just because you mean no no in his head the because he identifies yeah he's like two different people in his head one of them's man and then he becomes a woman and in the middle of things goes I just switched I just flipped he's talking to

these people like I'm a man now we're like what you can just do that isn't it possible he's crazy like isn't it possible he's making shit up do we have electrodes and like sometimes he's, what is he thinking about? Dicks. It's all dicks. Sometimes it's vaginas. Got some vaginas now. Well, I mean, there's definitely, like, an emotional mental screening process for people that want to go, like, full throttle with the, like, dick to V.

D to V. V to D. There is. Switch it up. Unfortunately, like, it's surgery. It's pretty dedicated. It's surgery and i i think there's going to come a really interesting time where they're able to manipulate what you are in a way that's non

not like as primitive as cutting and stitching things back up together but maybe like somehow another altering what you actually are like changing like the signal that your cells have and what shape you want it to form i mean i don't think that's outside of the the possibilities in our life transmitting consciousness to a different body because people do talk about that well we're also recognizing that your body's not it's what you need it while you're using it. But it's not all of you. And that the idea of who you are when you're not even connected to your body, that might be the real you. And what this body thing is, you have this biological thing that you're attached to

that's sort of evolved with you. And just the same way you have all this weird bacteria on your skin and weird flora in your intestines that might be exactly what like life and the body is and that the consciousness in the body they they're they're really they're kind of the same thing but not really the same way like yeah the things that are growing in your body all the millions and billions and trillions of microbes and life forms that live in every one of us, those are, you know, we don't want to think that they're,

they're not even important. If without them, you're fucked. Just because you can talk doesn't mean they're not in on the whole thing. You're a giant collection of living, you know? It's incredible. Fuck, we're crazy crazy we're so odd makes me think of the planet thing you know almost all these gases all this shit just boom smacks together and then it's the thing or it was a thing before now it's the form changes but like the fuck is it why is the center burning up

I don't know I'm not I'm too the center burning up? I don't know. I'm too dumb for that. Me too. I don't like things I'm too dumb for. I like water on Mars. Like, hmm, wet water? Ice? What is it? I can get those concepts. I understand. I've seen water melt. I've seen it get cold. I've seen icicles.

I've seen water on Mars. You've seen an icicle? Could you imagine if they really did find a life form on Mars? Haven't they, though? Haven't they found bacterias and, like, microscopic things? I think they've found evidence of biology.

Mm-hmm. In my very rudimentary way of understanding what those guys are talking about, I think they find, like, there's certain signature patterns that they can find

that might indicate some sort of biological life at some point in time but i don't think they found a smoking gun i don't think they found like a fossil or am i right jamie does that make sense and there's the potential that there's like forms of life that we cannot identify as as humans like sure that like aren't like these you know physical elements but that it's like almost something you just can't, like, these, you know, physical elements, but that it's, like, almost something you just can't see, smell, taste, or touch, you know? It's like. Well, it might be, and this is going to be the craziest thing to say, it might be that everything's alive. Sure.

It might be that everything that you encounter reacts in some sort of a weird way. but we are so rigid in our idea of what's alive, what's not alive, or what's conscious and not conscious, what retains energy and what doesn't, that we don't think about it. We don't think about, like, objects and how. Well, but, you know, the psychics talk about, like, multidimensional planes and stuff, and I don't know. I don't know where you stand on this stuff. I think they're mostly bullshit artists.

There's a lot of bullshit stuff, But there's also stuff that I've seen that I can't explain. And I'm like, what the fuck is that? Yeah, no, I know exactly what you mean. I feel too timid to talk about it right now. Well, it's like we were talking about the ghost hunting shows earlier. And I said, I don't not believe in ghosts. Like that guy, what's his name? Zach Baggins. He seems like

a nice guy. I've watched his show before. It's entertaining. He goes looking for ghosts. Can I tell you some ghost stories? Here's a ghost story. Okay. So my dad running this restaurant with my uncle since he was 17. Kills a man with an axe. Not lately. Because he didn't pay for a pie.

You said sauce on the side. Son of a bitch. But my dad was telling me this story that it wasn't that long ago that this family that's been coming into the restaurant for years and years and years came in and he saw everybody. He saw, you know, mom, dad mom dad kids beautiful grandmother shining in the back and he said uh hey guys party of five and they said nope just four and and he told like this and you know it's my dad like my dad's not gonna fucking make shit up and he said he felt this incredible like the the grandmother was standing behind the family, like, just, like, looking so happy. And he was like, okay, four?

And then he said he, like, looked away and she was gone. And he sat the family down. And he was really freaked out. And he, like, he was kind of, like, you know, doing other stuff. And he came back and he said, hey, how's your mom doing? And they said, oh said oh well she passed a couple months ago and he had this moment where he he was like i felt like i should tell them and he did and he said i i feel really uncomfortable but i really feel like i need you to know that

when you came into the restaurant i i saw your mother standing behind you guys and and they didn't kind of they didn't freak out and they they just said we really feel like she's still with us. And that's not the first time my dad's had a weird ghost story at the restaurant. He's had a few other experiences. And when he talked about it, he was kind of like, yeah, I fucking saw her. Like, I saw her. So your dad saw the old lady behind them?

Yeah. And how old was your dad at the time? This was like last year, like a couple years ago. Like, it wasn't that long ago. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Look, if you can have people, if the idea that ghosts are ridiculous,

why is it any more ridiculous than an echo? You ever get under a bridge and yell, Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. Why is that weirder than ghosts? It's not, right? It's like ghosts could be just as likely. It could be like your actual life form, whatever it was when you went. Sure.

I mean, it might like echo. I think we underestimate how powerful our energy is. I mean, people can leave a real impression. People can stay with you. Like, literally. Like, have you ever had somebody who just, like, fucking kicked your ass energetically and you left a place and you're like, God, I just feel like they're still with me. Like, that stuff is not to be taken lightly. I think, and it can be the absolute opposite end of the spectrum of joy and love and kindness.

And you can get energy in these places and i think some people can have an innate ability to interpret it in a different way where they maybe actually see it or they hear it or whatever you know because i believe my dad i love my dad i believe him you know it's totally possible that someone can actually see an aura but if you can't take a photo of it i'm just have I just bank on the fact you're not out of your fucking mind my dad and you ask him I don't know all around him is green green is life I see him I see him I see his aura there people it's purple don't, what is that from? It's from Almost Famous.

Oh. That was a fun movie, right? So fun. Is that like the cautionary tale for the young rock star? That's probably the tempting, right? That's the best stuff. I am music. I'm a golden god.

I don't know if we'll ever get there, but maybe. You don't want to get there. You want to get, like, in the neighborhood. You want to get, like, adjacent. Beverly Hills adjacent. Down the street from that guy. It's 745. What time did we start this podcast?

Earlier than 745. Oh, my God. It's a long time ago. It's been a while. You Fix me the party debt now. It's been a while. You guys want to play another song? We should, but I also want to play our Sweet Thing video. I feel like we should play that.

Okay, you want to play that first? It's fucking awesome. Okay, let's play it. It's on our... Show me Vernon, ladies and gentlemen. on our Twitter page. Ladies and gentlemen. We did this video, guys. We did this.

I quit. I quit. You guys are awesome. What is this? We did this with our friend Dave Gruber-Allen. Well, we have to be careful. We don't want you to flag us off of YouTube with this.

Will you get in trouble? You guys might have some, like, really overly enthusiastic record company. Do you have a good record company, or is your record company very litigious? They're great. They have not litigied yet. Ben, Jeff, may I come into the office, please. Did you or did you not give them permission to say and play Sweet Thing on their podcast? Oh, we're allowed.

We're allowed. Who says? We do. I would like you guys to say it into the microphone. No. Ben Jaffe is the incentive for me to enter the seat. All right. Honey, honey.

Yeah, all right. All right. Oh, there he is that sexy bitch oh nice wow If I see a sweet thing, I want to eat it. I got pleasure on my mind. Wow. All I want to do is feed it. I get blood pumping through my temples.

I can flood. Oh, if you're not watching this, there's an old dude dancing. He's got white hair, a long beard and long hair, He's got white hair, a long beard and long hair, and he's signing everything that Suzanne sings in a sexy, gyrating way. Look at him. I can't wait until this part. I'm gonna get that girl. Oh my God. I'm living like a thief I can't sleep With those pretty little voices screaming Me, me, me

And I'm changing like a sleep Till it makes me sick Till I'm through with it And I'm changing like a sleep And I'm gonna make it till I'm through with it I'm gonna change it up a sweet thing And I'll make it till I'm through with it I woke up in the middle of a fist fight I got some sense it doesn't know That I'm out of love Oh, my God. Till it makes me sick Till I'm through with it I treat you like a sweet baby

And I make it sick Till I'm through with it I treat you like a sweet baby And I make it sick Till I'm through with it I treat you like a sweet baby Till it makes me sick Till I'm through with it That is awesome. That's a fun video. Thanks, man.

What is it about videos where when you watch some shit that makes you look really old, it becomes better? I don't know. Like all the little scratchy things that made it seem like it was an old movie? Yeah. Why has it become better? What is that? What is that call to nostalgia? Puts you in a mood.

Puts you in, you know, it's like, oh, this is familiar. Who was the old dude that was dancing? He was awesome. Who's Gruber? Dave Gruber Allen is. He was, he's famous for a few things. He was on a show called Freaks and Geeks, Judd Apatow's show. He played the guidance counselor. So there's like this weird like cult following, but he was also the naked trucker on Comedy Central.

And he's done a lot of really great work, but he's also been a really great friend of ours over the years. He's a great dude. When I first moved to L.A., I moved into a house, and he was my housemate. It was like a crazy intro to the city. I was 18. I moved in, and he was much older, and just like, it kind of, I got to see all this great comedy that I never, like, I'd never gone to a comedy club when I was a kid.

They didn't have that when I was a kid. They didn't have that where I grew up. I was going to this club in L.A. and seeing all these dudes, like him and Patton Oswalt was doing his thing. At Largo. He would go to Largo. Guys, it was just great. He's a nut. Yeah, that's a very unusual video. A little more on the house that Ben... Pretty consistent with our videos.

The house that Ben lived in and now lives in again is kind of like this artist compound. And, like, Jim Turner owns a house, our really good friend, and he was our angel of death in our angel of death video. But, like, he was also Randy of the Redwoods on MTV. It's just fun to do shit with your friends. You know what I mean? That's what we keep doing over and over. There are these incredible. It's just fun to do shit with your friends. That's what we keep doing over and over.

There are these incredible people. We just want to do it with our friends. It makes everything more fun. Doable. Yeah, it changes what the thing is. The thing goes from being a labor to a party. Jim and Gruber are like our family to us. When we get to make fucking silly videos with them,

whether people like it or not, we love it. It's so fun. Yeah. I mean, it's one of the coolest things. When you do things like that today, you could distribute them in a way that you never would be able to just a decade ago, two decades ago, three decades ago. You guys were people in the music business especially,

were so dependent upon, like, traveling and getting a reputation, you know, and word of mouth. You know, and some bands, like, became gigantic just through word of mouth. Like, that was, like, a big thing back when we were kids. It was, like, underground music. Like, if you found out if you knew about the creeps do you know about the creeps like people knew they knew people knew about it like you had to know you had to know someone you know like if you wanted to hear about

some cool shit dude stop at the run dmc do you know who cool g rap is do you know who cool g rap is you need to know i need to get you a fucking demo tape you know there was like some dudes that were like these underground dudes and knowing who they were was like crucially important. Oh, yeah. Especially folks in Jamie's generation, right? Crucially important to know who's... He's very... He'll like

say with like enthusiasm, he'll inform me of the new hot players in the rap genre. And I'll have to go, okay, so this is the guy now okay and what's his deal yeah jamie fill us in later would you he's he knows okay awesome jamie's on the ball doing it oh man this has been educational informational it's been really fun inspirational informational it's been really fun inspirational poem the end that was my poem like that snuck it in you know i know if i said can i read uh my poem you'd be like oh christ you'd have to see

inside joke from podcast number one hey joe can we tell the people that we're on tour right now oh fuck yes you can yeah we're on tour right now, guys. We're going to be going through Texas, and we're playing, Ben, help me out here, New Orleans. We're in Tennessee. Nashville. In Nashville. We're in Southwest. Next couple of days, we'll be in Santa Fe. Powerful Santa Fe.

We're at honeyhoneyband.com if you want to fucking get in on this. We're going to be playing a whole bunch until about mid-November. What is the Twitter? Twitter is honeyhoneyband. Honeyhoneyband. Yeah. Everything's honey Twitter? Twitter is HoneyHoneyBand. HoneyHoneyBand. Yeah. HoneyHoneyBand.com. Everything's HoneyHoneyBand.

Everything. Instagram, HoneyHoneyBand. Same. Yeah. That's what we are. We're a band. There's a lot of stuff going on.

We'd love to see you guys out there in the world. The real world. They want to see you too. Fun. Maybe a little bit too much. Yeah, we get physical. In the good and the bad way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look out. A lot of flailing. Oh, no. We're back. We both got accosted by this woman in Long Beach recently. And it was amazing. All of a sudden, I was like, she was kissing my neck.

And I was like, okay. There you go. Hold on a second. You need to buy me things first. How bad did her breath smell? She was really beautiful, but she was just so aggressive and I felt like a fucking piece of meat and I was like, let's not.

Let's just calm down. You know, I want to be treated nicely. That's right. Have you been licked? No. I have a very strong Heisman. Heisman? Ass a good Heisman. I have a very strong Heisman. Heisman?

Heisman Trolley. You have to assume the Heisman. You have to keep people at arm's length. You can't let them get close enough to turn you into a zombie. Yeah. If you were on The Walking Dead and they were like, oh, no, no, no, no, bitch. If you're in the middle of the football field with a zombie,

okay, you're not going to get me. No. Okay, you're not. I'm faster than that. They're slow. They're too fast're not gonna get me okay you're not i'm faster than that they're not they're not that and you just shoot right for the head i know you do yeah but if i have a gun but i'm saying like it was just me and the zombie like um this isn't 28 days later 28 days later it's terrifying they get you you got to go with the slow movers walking down i'll those dudes up i'll practice on those dudes. World War Z, they were moving fast, too. Yeah, but in the books, in the books and the audio tapes, which we listened to on tour, they were slow.

When I saw the movie, it scared the fuck out of me. I will head kick the fuck out of a zombie. I'll tell you right now. So let's talk about our escape route. Walking Dead style zombies, I'll warm up with some soft work to the body, keep moving, and then once I feel like this dummy is going to just walk right into a wheel kick, I'm going to try to take a zombie's head off. Try to kick a zombie right in the dome.

I wonder sometimes when people, like Halloween time, when people like to fuck with each other, and someone who's like, I'm going to dress up like a zombie and scare people. But if they take it to an extreme, if someone would actually go crazy on them. Because the fear of zombies is so great. Oh, people have definitely been killed by that in the South. Really? By being a fake zombie?

A zombie impersonator? 100%. Guys, don't do it. That's really dumb. I was in Montana right around the time. It was between maybe six months before or six months after I was in Montana that this happened. Some dude put on one of those um suits what are those suits called ghillie suits is that what it's called ghillie suit he put on like a camouflage suit it's like this crazy camouflage

suit where dudes wear in the military to hide into or sometimes people use it for extreme hunting situations you you like pretend to be one of bushes, and then you jump out and get people. This guy did it and pretended to be Bigfoot. So he put this ghillie suit on and stood by a bush, and then when people were on the highway, he stepped out into the highway. And you know what happened? This fucking teenage girl accelerated into him and killed Bigfoot.

She sent Bigfoot flying, and then here's where it gets even crazier. Another teenage driver Going the opposite direction Then ran over him again Oh my god He got double teenage Are you serious? Like this is a real show

This is a real story I'm fucking telling you the truth This is a real story It's a real story Oh my god A man in a ghillie suit Am I saying it right? For sure

I apologize if I'm getting it wrong I thought it was a ghillie suit It looks like a bunch of leaves Like you're connected string and leaf You know what I'm talking about? I'm sure you wrong. I thought it was a ghillie suit. It looks like a bunch of leaves. Like you're connected string and leaf. You know what I'm talking about? Sure, you have fucking Wahlberg in that movie. That's what's up. Yep, I guess.

This guy put that on. Prank's taking too far, guys. You can't, you know. We gotta have safety with our prankery, okay? But don't you think that that is the universe's way of eliminating idiots? If you really stopped and thought about it, like what type of a person, like, what type of person goes, you know what I'm gonna do?

I'm gonna spend my day fucking with people. I'm gonna wait till it gets dark. Like, real hard. I'm gonna put on the camo. I'm gonna jump in the middle of the road. This is gonna be awesome. You gotta be, like, a fucking tiny bit crazy. Boom, dead.

I mean, maybe. I think about that a lot with these, like, you know, haunted houses that people, like, sign up to go in and have people fuck with you. I want no part of that. I don't want some stranger touching me with a fake chainsaw. The physical reaction is terror. I don't want that. You don't have to do it.

And also, the people that are doing that, I think, have to be a little fucking askew in the brain. There's something weird with, like, I'm sorry. It could be old-fashioned fun. Sure, sure. Just a little fucking askew in the brain like there's something weird with like I'm sorry it could be old-fashioned fun sure you're like I pride myself on like you know putting fake blood all over myself and just like getting people to shit their pants I mean that's fine whatever job and it's like that or night fry guy at Wendy's. What's a guy going to do? I'd rather have Night Fry Guy at Wendy's. Freaks you out. You'd rather be that job?

Yeah. I think I'd scare the fuck out of some kids. As a Night Fry Guy? For an extra dollar an hour. For an extra dollar an hour. I'm going to give those little kids nightmares. Fire! I'll do it violently.

I'll get right into it. That got me a little bit. Jesus! The devil is here amongst you. Go home to your family. Remember this always. Oh, thank God. Good night, everybody.

Some light trauma. So the kid was, what the fuck just happened? I can't do it. I can't do it. The devil is in you always. Oh, my God. No. Poor little eight-year-old.

Please stop. But that's how you get that $9 an hour. You only get seven at fucking Wednesday. That's bullshit. You got to commit, though, dude. That was good. you get that $9 an hour. You only get $7 at fucking Wednesdays. That's bullshit. You've got to commit, though, dude. That was good. I want that extra deuce. Kids got to suffer.

At an adult summer camp, you can go sleep over and do that. Like for two nights on a lake and all that. Did you ever see the documentary Jesus Camp? Yeah. Well, in bits and pieces, you've seen it, right? It's crazy. It's amazing. It's like sort of the opposite of the devil camp.

Is there a devil camp? I'm sure there is. Let's go. There should be. Equal time and all that good stuff. Maybe they got some points. But it was a documentary on these people that were taking these kids and turning them into radical fundamentalists. Because their logic was we need Christian warriors because they're already developing Islamic warriors.

Dude, people are tweeting about that. This guy rallying a Christian army. Whoa. Everybody settle the fuck down. Let's see what I want to tell them. Oh, Suzanne. Let's all just take a breath. That's what's up, right?

Take a breath. Everybody's like, please. Whenever you watch that shit that's going on in the Middle East, beheading this and that and fucking stoning this and that, you're like, keep it over there, please. Keep it over there. Cut it out. That's the one thing that people don't want to address in this world,

when there's parts of the world that are just really, really fucked up. For some reason, as long as it's not right here. Years and years and years of being rectified. I know. We're so strange. Just the human animal, so strange. And we think we're having a bad day, you know. Our bad days are a joke.

Oh, my God, I'm having a hard time quitting diet coke are you really oh let's talk about that no i'm not i'm just saying like that's like someone freaking out this is bullshit my skin teacher is an asshole i'm fucking i don't want to hear duran duran anymore these are our problems okay We're okay. We're okay, guys. Lucky people. Bunch of lucky people here. I think people when they're alive are lucky. If you think about the amount of people that have died, the fact that you're not one

of them, you should be really fucking happy. You're lucky as shit. I feel okay about it, yeah. Yeah. We're all lucky. It's a perspective. that perspective issue and the disenchantment with your own position in the perspective, that's like what fueled the whole thing. It's like, it's unavoidable in some way.

If I say like one more time, I'll smack myself. Don't do that, not in front of us. It's like, like man, like. I hear myself saying it, I was like, shut up bitch. You never know what you sound like, I hear myself saying it. I was like, shut up, bitch. You never know what you sound like, bitch. Smack. You're extra liked.

You can fall into those things. Yeah. No, we're all lucky as fuck. And I think, you know, hopefully that trend will continue. I mean, it would be really nice if the people next, after we're done, look back at us like the way we look at those covered wagon douchebags. We look at those covered wagon douchebags like, oh my God, you didn't even have medicine. You had bark. What did you do if somebody broke their leg?

You broke their head open with a rock and you might have went back to eat them. You bleed them out to make them better. Things are going well. People did a lot of eating people back in those days. Yeah. That might come back.

That's when we should, like, that's how you gotta judge civilization. Like, how much cannibalism per capita? We just drove through

the Donner Pass and I was thinking about that and I was like, Donner, and I thought about that Robin Williams, he's like, Donner,

party of five Oh party of four It's like They didn't even know Where they were going That's what I'm talking about Like This fucking

Crazy Like It could have just Kept getting worse Why were they so cocky They didn't even know America was there Right

They were in the wrong spot They When the You think about the people That landed in the West Indies, that's where they landed, right? The fact that they were so confident in not even knowing that North America existed,

they were in totally the wrong spot. Then they move across North America, they get to these mountains, they get to these insane rocky mountains, they get to these immense peaks, like what's the highest, what is it like 11,000 feet? More than that, I think 15. It's huge. It's up there. And they just go, okay, let's go there. Let's keep going. No, what's the highest? What is it, like 11,000 feet? More than that, I think. 15. It's huge. It's up there. And they just go, okay, let's go there.

Let's keep going. No, we'll figure it out. Can you imagine the amount of animals to people ratio at that point? It's not even cold up there, dude. Just keep going. Stop being a pussy. Like, what is it? Did they know for sure what was on the other end?

Like, what's the story behind that? No, I mean, that's the whole Lewis and Clark thing. They were looking for a passage. They're like, this could be here. We hope this is here. But the donner party is that was that the story because the donner party had people already gone through there was a lot of families and i think i think it was like i want to say like 50 people went through and like 20 people made it out and then the people that didn't make it were for fuel for the rest of the journey. Oh, my God.

I mean, please quote me incorrectly. Correct you, right? Yeah. But Jesus, how bad must it have been where they were that they wanted to take that chance? I don't know. I feel like I'd just be like, time to expire. Do you think they thought there was gold? Was it a gold rush thing?

I don't know. I think it was people really desperately looking for their, you know, like, this is our place. We need to find our place. Oh, my God, though. And we'll do whatever we need to do to get to our place. Could you imagine being, like, the one person that was, like, just not that fucking gung-ho for this trip? And you're hanging back, and you're like, dude, I don't know, man. That would have been me.

Younger brother. You know, they're tying down the wagon. Give me your hand. No, I think you start with the ass and the legs. I think that you start with the meat parts, you know, the hide. I'd be like, let's stay in the meadow. Hind legs.

This meadow is where all the animals are and shit. This is dark. Let's go back to the light. Yeah, that would suck. Imagine if they had a deal. I want you to eat me first. They have a deal. It's my idea. I'm the one who told us to go over the mountain.

So if it all goes bad, I'll let you bash my head in with a rock and you can eat me. No, you have to die naturally first of starvation. Well, then you don't have a lot of meat. I don't know. This is tough. This is really tough. This is some fucking alpha only the strong survive type shit.

Yeah. From Suzanne. Yeah, you just kind of like get a little bit of the meat off the bone. Say it right now. You're going to eat your grandma. Oh my God. You're going to have to eat your grandma because she's going to die first. Fuck. Why? Right? That's what I'm saying. Why did you say that? Because that's what's going to happen. This is like some grapes of wrath

shit. Right? Well, unless you decide this is sacrilege, you know? Speaking of which, I'm hungry. I'll take the blade. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You guys want to get some dinner? Sure.

Absolutely. Do you guys want to play any more songs? We can end. Do you want to hear anything? Whatever you want. Yeah. What's you going to do now? Yeah, we can do that.

We got a new version of it. Here it is, popping off. A new version? Well, we just play it a little differently. Oh, my God. You guys are crazy. Violin solo going on this time. Oh, God.

Let me just... Drop in. Wow, guys. Powerful. We're taking this one. Podcast number two. Damn. What is that part of the violin called? A bow? It's a bow, yeah. We're taking this one. Podcast number two. Damn. What is that part of the violin called?

A bow? It's a bow, yeah. I know these things. Also served as you can hunt animals with it. You just kind of have to redirect it like pew, you know? But it can also make sound with the violin. Breaking it down for you. You know?

Just check our website for more details. Get it in there. I think I'm really out of tune, Ben. I wish I could play the fiddle, Suze. You can do it, dude. How many different things can you play? I can play the guitar,

drums, I can play the piano a little bit, bass is really similar to guitar. $50 an hour. That's a lot of things. How much different is, I mean, obviously besides the physical movement. We'll talk later. Talk later. You've got to play the drums, Joe.

I think you'd dig it. Not interested. Declines. I'm not going to force it on you. He said I should play the drums. You should play the drums. Ben is an excellent drummer. He won like state competitions, this guy.

I only have a certain amount of resources dedicated towards hitting things. Look, you give us martial arts lessons, we'll give you music lessons. Done deal, man. I just want you guys to stay steady being awesome. And I'll enjoy what you're doing. Okay, I think I'm good. Ben, how do you feel about your tonage? I feel pretty good, but I'm not really paying much attention.

Okay. Keep it grimy, bitches. All right, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. I hope the people out there are okay. This is a lengthy one. They're going to be fine. We're not committing anybody to any of this. I hope the people out there are okay. This is a lengthy one. They're going to be fine. We're not committing anybody to any of this. That's good. That's the beautiful thing about a podcast. You

do whatever you want to do. If you don't want to listen to this anymore, go to Radiolab. It's an awesome show. If you ever heard about it, there's one called Dark Code that's out now. I highly recommend it. Oh, Bill Burr's Monday Morning Podcast. Another amazing one. Someone's choice.

Love him. Daniele Bolelli has a new podcast, History on Fire. Go there. Go there. Look at you. They're everywhere. Podcasts here and there. Honey, honey.

Feel good about that? Okay. guitar solo Ooh, baby, that fire's coming down. Right into your walls, right out of your mouth. And everything you love's just ash on the ground. Ooh, so what you gonna do now? So you run to the river, you run to the sea. Sift through

the rubble and search the debris. But you won't find anything if you don't find peace. Oh, babe, so what you gonna do now? Don't wait until you die

You can always change your mind And make it right So why are you still waiting outside? guitar solo Maybe your mama didn't treat you right. Maybe you just didn't sleep last night. You know I don't give a damn why you want to fight. Oh, babe, so what you gonna do now?

Don't wait until you die. You can always change your mind and make it right. So why are you still waiting outside guitar solo So come out from the weeds and into my arms Ooh, babe, I know the dark and how it can harm you Yeah, now that my conscience ripped me apart too So here's what we're gonna do now Take all of your needs and all of your sins See, here's what we're gonna do now. Take all of your needs and all of your sins.

All of the losses you threw in. We'll carry the weight if it breaks everything. Oh, and that's what we're gonna do now Don't wait until you die Cause you can always change your mind And make it right So why are you still waiting outside? Still waiting outside. Still waiting outside.

Oh, God. Damn, Suzanne and Ben. You two are bad motherfuckers. Oh, my God., Suzanne and Ben. You two are bad motherfuckers. Oh, man. Oh, my God. That's so good. Joe, thank you. Thanks so much for having us, man.

Damn, that's good. That was really fun. Woo. That was awesome. We drank half a bottle of booze. We had some good talks. We're doing good. That song is...

You got to release that version, too. Aw, thanks. You got to. Got to. That was awesome. That song is You gotta release that version too Aw thanks You gotta Gotta That was awesome I wanna do a record That's more stripped down I think that'd be awesome

Dude I'm done Do it all Do both kinds Just keep going Take Adderall Do what you gotta do Keep it coming

I want productivity Yes sir You guys are awesome That was really fun. It's an honor. It really is. It's an honor to have you guys do that here. It's so cool.

It's so, whatever it is, you know, whatever you describe, something when someone just nails it. That's what that just was. It was like the song, the lyrics, the music, the sounds, the whole thing. Woo. It's beautiful. It's a work of art. You guys should be proud.

Thanks, man. You're tapping into it, whatever the fuck it is. Whatever you did to do that, keep doing that shit. You know? Whatever it is. Whatever path your mind is on that made you guys create that. Damn. It's good.

It's really good. Really, really, really good. Thanks, man. You guys are the shit. You guys are the shit. Enough blowing you. Let's tell people where they can see you live and tell people how to get your shit. It's all HoneyHoneyBand.

Is that the best way? Yeah, HoneyHoneyBand.com. That's the portal for everything. Instagram, for Twitter, for all that shit. Yeah, we have this little forum on our website, too, called Talking Shit. Oh, my goodness. And we can communicate with the people, and we comment back and stuff. Do you actually call it Talking Shit? It's a foul language.

Well, it's weird because you can't technically swear on it, which is weird because we love to do that. But it's talking S-H-H-I-T. Is it a message board? Yeah, it's a message board. Why can't you swear on it? I don't know. I've tried. I've tried and it'll stop me

every time I try to send it so I have to like which makes me feel really uncomfortable because I feel very comfortable with my potty mouth. Is this your own website? It is my own website.

Oh, see, you don't need that. Who do we talk to about that, Ben? Mine's called Shit Talking. Who did it? Mine's called Shit Talking 101. It's like the name of... Oh, fuck. Are you serious? Yeah, you could just change the filter. What? People can say whatever they want.

The only thing, I try to tell them to cut the racist stuff out. How did that happen? That's amazing. Go easy on that. Joe, we did not know about that. There's filters on message boards. You can set filters. You could have them totally uncensored. You could have people say whatever. We need to let the fucks out of the cage. There's a lot of them that come built in

when you try to write fuck. It'll give you like asterisk, asterisk, asterisk, you know. They say the people that swear a lot are more in touch with their truth and themselves. Who said that? A lot of people. Let those words free, bitches. A whole bunch of people.

Stop being a word slave. Word slave. Let those words free, bitches. Let them free. Stop being a word slave. Word slave master controlling those words. Let them all free, right? Do it. Don't you think? Liberation. Well, I'm glad we did two podcasts that way. I don't feel that uncomfortable with you guys driving home.

I think we reached a blood alcohol level of accepted. This is safe. This was fun. You guys hungry? Let's get some food. Let's get some food. All right. Honeyhoneyband.com, Honeyhoneyband Instagram, Honeyhoneyband Twitter.

Do you guys keep individual Twitter? No. We're one thing. Hmm. You like that weird married couple that shares an email. Hmm. Maybe we should split that shit up. No.

Why? I don't want to be the wedge. I don't want to be the wedge. Don't that shit up. No. Why? I don't want to be the wedge. Don't split it up. Not in front of me. Respect our friendship. Good night, you fucking freaks. We'll be back soon. Much love. Big kiss.

Bye-bye. Thank you.