The Joe Rogan Experience - #76 - Bobby Lee
Episode Date: February 1, 2011Joe sits down with Bobby Lee. ...
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The thing is, is those beads...
Have you seen the blue one?
The beads?
The avatar one?
No, it looks like a flashlight, right?
Right.
And you stick the thing inside it, right?
Yeah, that one. I have that.
I have these little beads that you turn on.
You stick your balls in it.
I know, but there's these beads on mine that you put in and it vibrates.
It's three beads and it goes on the side.
If you open that up, you can put beads inside.
But the beads only last five minutes, right? And I take ten minutes to do it.
So the last five minutes you're just holding your breath? No, I have a whole
system in the side. I have all these batteries. Well, why don't you just have two
and then you have two fleshlights and so you have one on standby. Because cleaning them is
a half an hour thing. Half an hour? What do you use, a toothbrush?
No, I use hot oil. You use hot oil to clean them? a toothbrush no no no i use hot oil you use hot
oil to clean them no no no from the gulf no no i i i um i microwave oil for five seconds and you
get it warm you can't do it too hot i did it once and i scalded my soft eyes oh no yeah yeah but
burns but um yeah you put the oil in it right yeah and then you put the beads in it. It vibrates. It's so good.
It feels so good.
I've never heard of it.
It's like making love to an android,
which is my fantasy dream.
But the beads run out
of energy.
So only five minutes
for these whack-ass beads.
Yeah, and brand new.
You have to put
three of those,
what do you got,
the watch batteries,
the little tiny ones,
in them.
What?
Three tiny watch batteries.
Yeah, so you're talking about $30 a pop when you're doing that.
Wow.
Where do you get these beads?
I've never even heard of these beads.
Open that up.
Open that up.
I bet you there's bead slots.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
Serious?
I'm sure you're not talking about a competitor.
No, that's it.
See?
Okay, now go.
You tell me what the slots are.
On mine, I have three slots here.
Oh, so yours is designed for it specifically.
It is a flashlight.
A flashlight.
But it's a different one.
It's a different one.
You stick in there and go...
Oh, maybe you've got a vibrator model or something.
Or a vibrator compatible.
Oh, yes, they do have the vibrator models.
I remember seeing that.
Yeah, yeah, I have that one.
Yeah.
But it's the same.
It looks exactly the same.
It's a very...
You know, this is a controversial thing, man.
I do a whole series of...
I do a whole bit about it on stage.
But this really is controversy. Why? Because people didn't want me getting sponsored by a fake vagina. controversial thing man i do a whole series of uh i do a whole bit about it on my on stage but
this really is controversy why because people don't want didn't want me getting sponsored by
a fake vagina why like there's somehow or another it's like bad for your reputation does it really
take you 10 minutes to come yeah because now when you have regular sex does it take you 10 minutes
no it takes you longer can i say something i want to can i say something to you sure i'm i'm very
i'm being very specific on my porn the The thing is that I need the interview.
You okay?
You know the interview?
The interview where the girl sits down.
So where are you from?
Where are you from?
I'm from Ohio.
You know what I mean?
How much porn have you done?
Not that much.
This is my second time.
Or first.
And I need to sense a little fear.
In her voice, right?
And then check it out.
You know the first time when they do it?
The first timers?
When the penis goes in the vagina
I have to look at their eyes
In the eyes
They have to question
Their decision
That's how you get excited?
Yeah yeah
You know how
Like when the penis goes in
They have to go
Mom
Do you associate that
With any past sexual experiences
Where you see the look
In the girl's eyes
She's like
What the fuck
Is Bobby Lee doing inside me?
And then You get excited Like tricked him again Josie No no no I think what it is Is this in the girl's eyes she's like what the fuck is Bobby Lee doing inside me and then
you get excited
like tricked him again
Josie
no no no
I think what it is
is this
I think that
my penis
it's not even
an ethnic thing
but my penis
is abnormally small
I don't care about it
because you know what I mean
I'm rapping
like how small
it's just small
like thumb
no
yeah it's thicker
than that
alright
but the thing is
is that
and girls
you know they like my bubbly personality
I'm like a dream weaver
You're fun
I tickle
You bring a party
And so then all of a sudden
This party is fucking your mouth
And when I'm with a girl
I look in their eyes
I've never had the sensation of
Them going,
oh, you know what I mean?
Like it's too big.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I have a friend of mine who had that same problem
and so what he started doing
was getting,
he got a strap on.
He got this crazy thing
that covers his dick
and it was like
his dick would go on
and then this like
big fake dick
would go over his dick
and we were talking
to him about it.
We were like,
well, what's up?
Like, why do you,
what are you doing that for? And he goes, just once I want to see a girl like have talking to him about it. We were like, well, what's up? What are you doing that for?
He goes, just once.
I want to see a girl have a hard time taking it.
They can always take it so easy.
I'm never hurting them.
So are you really big into anal?
No, I don't do that.
You think you would be, though,
because most girls, even with your small dick,
would be like, hey.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Because for me, it's like I want them to have pleasure, too.
Some girls like it. I know a girl that likes anal better than regular sex. She just wants anal all the time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the poop goes into my hole. It does. And I don't need that in my life. We talked about a terrible scene.
Did we talk about that on the podcast?
The naughty show thing?
Yeah, yeah, we did it last time.
Poop snakes are actually cool.
Have you ever had a poop?
What?
Shut up.
What's a poop snake?
When you piss,
and after anal sex,
there's a little poop snake coming out.
No, I don't need that in my life.
You should try it.
He's just talking nonsense.
He's being silly.
He does this all the time.
You can't take him seriously.
You've never had a poop snake,
to be honest.
Never.
I've had poop smell, though,
and that was worse.
There's a girl I had sex with a long time ago.
Back when I was 21,
I lost my boner
because I was banging her doggy style
and I saw poop around her butthole.
I realized that she didn't really wipe that good.
And then I started smelling it
because of the funk of the sex and the sweat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you wet nap it?
Do you ever do that? My butt? Yeah. Yeah, I wet nap the sweat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you wet nap it? Do you ever do that?
My butt?
Yeah.
Yeah, I wet nap my butt.
Oh, baby.
Yeah.
You know what?
And that's respect.
You can't flush those, by the way.
That's respect, right?
You cannot flush those.
What?
You got to wipe yourself first, and then you got to get the baby wipes, and then you got
to throw the baby wipes away, which is kind of gross.
Why can't you flush baby wipes?
Well, if you live in an apartment, go flush away.
But if you live in a house, eventually they're going to get clogged up.
And you're going to have to have a group of dudes come in your backyard and find this pipe stuffed full of your shit rags.
Are you sure you weren't using unbreakables?
No, bro.
I've used flushable baby wipes.
The flushable ones dissolve.
They never break.
They don't.
That's the thing.
They pretend they do.
They don't really.
They become like goo.
They don't dissolve like toilet paper.
And they get tied up on things.
In my area, we have issues
because we're kind of rural.
We have issues with trees growing into your pipes.
It's an issue.
There's so many trees out here.
The trees will grow through like a crack
in the pipe.
One of them became like a goddamn tree.
I posted pictures of it on Twitter.
It's so ridiculous, nobody even fucking believes it
My toilet was clogged
I couldn't figure out what was going on with it
So I had these plumbers come out
They pulled a fucking 8 foot tree
Out of my toilet
Maybe not 8 foot
How big was it? At least 5 feet
It was pretty long
It looked like a muppet
It looked like some sort of an animal, like somebody flushed some wood rat.
But are you worried that if they open up the pipe, there's stuff with wet gnats, but can't
you just say it's my children's?
No, it's mine.
I don't give a...
I'll fucking own it.
I'm not going to throw my kids under the bus.
Oh, right, right, right.
That's ridiculous.
Well, you're not supposed to be...
The diaper wipes, you definitely don't flush because they're really thick and coarse.
I mean, not coarse, but strong.
They would not break up, definitely.
But flushable baby wipes,
those bitches don't break up either.
The guy told me, no, they say they break up.
People say because I pulled them out of people's pipes all the time.
So they had to, like, dig a hole.
But it was really...
The issue, more or less, was that there was a root
that was blocking part of the area.
Not as bad as the one that was in the toilet.
The one that was in the toilet
was fucking ridiculous.
I'll find it
and I'll repost that shit
on Twitter
because it's just so silly.
It doesn't even make sense.
It's so silly.
It really didn't look real.
Like I couldn't believe it.
That was after I'd moved
to Colorado
so I left the house
for a couple months
and nobody was flushing.
Yeah, I just wish masturbating lasted longer for me.
Because to me, it's just like I seriously have to focus on slowing it down.
Why not just get it done?
What are you trying to do there, fella?
No, that's with sex and everything.
With masturbation, though, isn't that like you're just trying to get it over with?
Yeah, but I like to enjoy it, you know?
Do you really?
I mean, it feels good when you're doing it, right?
So why not have it go
for like 10 minutes?
Yeah, well, the other day
when I was in New York,
I tried to masturbate
to porn on the internet.
I couldn't finish.
Right.
So then after about an hour,
I finished half hard.
And you always feel like a failure
because my orgasm was like 50%.
You know what I mean?
And I just sat
there with like you know my hand like with this marshmallow in my hand you know i mean just sitting
there naked sweating you know going i failed at that i know what you're saying i couldn't even
finish that off wow i do feel you wow me and bobby were talking about how uh when we stay at hotels
we hate when the maid comes don't come in my room don't ever come to my room and uh i didn't tell you, but I did Spider-Man at the last hotel we were at, and it must
have hit the lamp because it started smoking.
What are you talking about?
Where I do Spider-Man in a hotel, where I throw.
Brian, people are listening.
Well, we've talked about Spider-Man before.
No one listens.
I don't know what the fuck you're saying.
I guarantee you, all these other people that are listening.
When I'm masturbating in hotels, I'm like, fuck this.
I'm in this hotel, and I just throw the sperm
at the wall like Spider-Man.
All right.
Or I throw it across the room.
And it still connects to your wrist?
No, no,
it doesn't connect to my wrist.
And you can swing it through the room?
No.
But I just call it Spider-Man.
That's so disrespectful.
Yeah.
Because some poor Mexican lady
has to clean it.
That's so,
I'm so mad.
That's so rude.
It's clear.
They don't clean it.
Yeah, but it dries and then
flakes and then you know you don't know what it is pretty obvious but you know that they think
it's either mucus or you mean or a load load yeah i can't even see where it goes and once i hit a
picture frame and i was like oh i better clean it so disrespectful once you hit a picture or like a
picture on the wall yeah i could tell you Masturbate And try to enjoy yourself When I masturbate
It's for maintenance
Just get it over with
Done
Enjoy it
And then moving on
It's even better
A towel
And she'll definitely
Touch the towels
The problem with
Getting into masturbating
Is then you like
You know like
Ari had that joke
About like having
A bunch of windows open
Trying to figure out
What to jerk off to
You can get weird
And obsessed
You can get kind of
Yeah yeah
You get a little caught up
In it And there's some dudes Who you You get a little caught up in it.
And there's some dudes who, you know, they get so caught up in porn, it becomes like
a legit addiction where, like, they'll have a conversation with someone and they just
can't wait to go away to their computer real quick and just look at porn videos.
I have to pay for my porn, though.
Really?
I can't do grainy.
It has to be high def.
Oh, really?
You have to be able to see the freckles.
You're the last guy.
The last guy buying porn.
Yeah, yeah.
I really am.
Talk about a business that just got gutted.
I know.
I mean, that used to be a multi-millionaire business.
I mean, there was some billion dollar business, right?
There was so many people in my neighborhood that were porn producers.
They'd be driving around in Ferraris, living a good life.
And I'd be like, look at this wild ass rebel just filming fucking and making a billion dollars.
Yeah.
It's crazy. You know, it's kind of a weird thing. You know, fucking and making a billion dollars. Yeah. It's crazy.
You know, it's kind of a weird thing.
You know, he'd be like a curiosity in the community.
You know, like all these mommies would look at him.
That's the porn guy.
That's where the porn guy lives.
The porn guy.
But now those guys aren't making shit.
That's done.
Done, son.
See ya.
If you're lucky, you can get by now.
And if you're lucky, you get Charlie Sheen.
Well, look at these hookers.
These hookers can't stop talking about Charlie Sheen.
They're doing interviews.
I heard someone on Stern this morning.
There was fucking Good Morning America interviewed one of the girls that fucked Charlie Sheen.
Way to go, Good Morning America, you whores.
Congratulations.
You are now Us Magazine.
And he allows you in his house.
Yeah.
Gives you free cocaine.
Of course.
You get to watch movies that haven't even come out yet on DVD.
You want to watch True Grit?
Oh, that's out in the theaters.
I have it.
Yeah.
Right?
They're doing cold.
You want to watch Avatar 2?
I've got a rough cut.
Yeah.
They even made that thing.
You know what I mean?
And then they disrespect him by, you know, ratting him out.
Of course.
Yeah.
They're not his friends.
Could you imagine if that was your friend?
Imagine if a dude came over your house.
Forget about sex.
Just a dude came over your house and had, you know, hey, we all watched fucking TV at
Bobby Lee's house.
He got nutty.
He takes his pants off, runs.
And all of a sudden this dude is on, you know, the radio on Monday and he's telling the whole
story about what he did hanging out at your house when you got crazy.
But who the fuck is this guy?
You're like, that guy will never hang out at my house again.
Fuck this idiot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you imagine that shit?
Can you imagine being that little kid from Two and a Half Men, how much tail Charlie
throws his way?
Hey, I got this daughter, this girl I fuck.
The kid's like 12.
Shut up.
And also that kid.
Is he?
Yeah.
I think he's old now.
And also that kid is so mad probably because the show could get canceled.
All right.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
They could all lose millions of dollars.
They're trying to say all sorts of shit like, oh, it was appendix perk.
He had a hernia
Well they all are
It's the biggest show on television
And by the way this is only helping it
It's only helping it
People are not going to stop
Charlie Sheen is fucking for whatever reason man
He's grandfathered in
Charlie Sheen ain't going nowhere
He could do coke all day
He could bang hookers
He could threaten his wife with a knife It doesn't matter he's fucking smiling on camera on monday i like how
the la police won't even do any like investigations through these alleged cocaine uh briefcase
charges i was like wait a second if somebody has a briefcase of cocaine maybe you should find out
what the fuck no no no no no that was ohio they would first of all first of all you it's all it's
all hearsay.
You can't take this hooker's word for it or porn star or whoever's saying it.
First of all, there's that.
And then second of all, what are you going to do?
Are you going to question him about whether or not he had cocaine for real?
And he's going to say no.
And then he's going to say, where's your evidence?
Where's this from?
And then the evidence is just some girl talking about it.
Unless that girl wants to go in and talk to the government.
And what does she know?
She knows a guy came over with cocaine.
You were doing cocaine, so you were doing something illegal, too.
Yeah, well, sort of.
Does Charlie pay you to fuck?
Yeah.
You know that's prostitution.
Can I call my lawyer?
Come on, man.
TMZ has this awesome article on yesterday where Charlie Sheen's old friend or publicist or something like that used to hang in his life and get in a lot of trouble with him.
And then he kind of disappeared for a few years
well lately
he's been hanging out
with this guy again
so they took up
they found him the other day
Charlie's been hanging out
yeah Charlie's been hanging out
with this guy again recently
and so they found him yesterday
like walking on the street
somewhere in Sunset
or something
and he had an Enjoy Coke shirt on
and they're like
huh interesting
oh my god
there's also a testimony
what a great actor
Charlie Sheen is
because
what? just listen listen to my theory dude listen to my theory okay when you act Huh, interesting. Oh, my God. It's also a testimony what a great actor Charlie Sheen is.
What?
Just listen.
Listen to my theory, dude.
Listen to my theory, okay?
When you act,
some actors get acting coaches, right?
They get the script, right?
They memorize their lines.
They have to go to table reads and rehearsals.
This dude just shows up, you know what I mean?
Just after a two-night bender, right? Once you've been on a sitcom for that long,
it becomes very easy.
News radio, the last couple seasons, was super easy.
News radio, we were working three days a week.
It was so easy.
And we would get a script, and then we would fuck around with it for a couple of days,
and then we would put it up on Friday.
A sweatshop.
And no one watched it.
You guys worked hard, and you guys had weird guidance, man.
Yeah, we had nine Mexicans watch.
Those two dudes that were running it, man, those guys had odd tastes oh it's it was the weirdest show i've ever hosted
it once and that's one of the times i knew you before that though right yeah yeah i hope that's
where i met brian cowan and uh i hosted it once and i remember like talking to them about my like
they wanted me to do a monologue and it's just like you know so i'm like all right i'll talk
about this and i'll talk about that. But it was real awkward.
I was like, how the fuck did these guys get to be running some sort of a sketch show?
It was the weirdest sketch show ever.
Not only that, there was no idea.
People could just walk in.
We're a TV show.
I just had people walk and go, hey, in my hallway where my dressing room is.
Hey, man, what's up?
Who are you?
Oh, I don't know.
I'm watching the show.
How are you back here? How'd they get back Oh, I don't know. I'm watching the show. How are you back here?
How'd they get back there?
I don't know.
There was like...
No security.
I don't know.
I never met one security guard.
You never met a security guard?
I never met a security guard.
No security.
No, it was on Highland in Santa Monica.
You know that one?
Yeah, it did sort of seem like a factory.
Yeah, it was weird.
It seemed weird.
It didn't seem like a regular show.
Yeah, and then we would have big storms sometimes.
Like Jackie Chan did it once.
Like, what are you doing here?
You're legitimate.
You know what I mean?
You're an international superstar.
It went on forever, too.
Yeah.
And I behaved like a fucking asshole toward the end.
I pooped in Lauren Dombrowski's office floor.
On her floor?
Yeah.
Because I was so mad at her.
Why were you mad at her?
Because they deceive you. Really? Lauren Dombrowski did she passed away i know i know i knew her from back
in boston when she was on a comedy team she saved my life really yeah yeah i love lauren and the
shit on her floor because you love it no but as a joke it was it was as a joke and there were two
actors writing in there right ike and nicole parker were writing and i go stick this um tums
in your asshole just for a joke it comes okay so i stuck it in my butthole and then my butthole started
foaming and then they both started laughing like really loud and then i shot the tums out of my
butthole and then a piece of poop came up after that right and it was a huge laugh and then lauren
poor lauren you know walks in and she sees a tums that's foaming and a piece of poop on the floor
and i had to clean it up.
So stuff like that.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Because when no one watches it and like we had free reign just to act just as crazy as.
Why was it so bad?
What was bad is because there's no real boss.
Right.
And also what happened was Fox didn't own it.
The Warner Brothers did.
And it's so Warner Brothers didn't care about it. Right. Fox didn't own it. The Warner Brothers did, right? And it's so,
Warner Brothers didn't care about it, right?
Fox didn't care about it.
Right.
And we just, and no one watched it.
And I don't know how it stayed on,
but every year they would go,
yeah, you're going to come back.
I go, really?
You know what I mean?
You and I used to have these conversations
at the back of the comedy store
where you didn't know what to do.
You're like, I don't know what to do.
I mean, they're giving me X amount of dollars a week.
It's a steady job, it fucking it's fucking terrible terrible
you fucking hated it dude oh i hated it i mean at five in the morning you'd show up no one's there
you would have this look in your face man sometimes you would have this look in your
face where you just like you didn't know what to do i cried a lot you fucking hated it i cried
so much on that job so at five in the morning mean when you'd show up for work five o'clock
call you should have hope there's no one there no No one. Yeah, and then at 5.40,
people start showing up.
I go, why did you call me?
Who runs this thing?
Right.
You know?
Call times are always brutal.
Oh, I hate it.
I hate when they get you
an early just in case.
They lie.
They lie.
They lie.
They're liars.
They are liars.
You know what I mean?
You show up at five,
and then you shoot at eight
at night.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Because, well,
first of all,
because comedians
are irresponsible.
You have to take that
into account. Right. You are, I am, Brian is. You're Because comedians are irresponsible You have to take that into account
Right
You are
I am
Brian is
You're on porn star time
Joey Diaz is the most irresponsible person
I've ever met in my fucking life
Ari's fairly responsible
But even him
He's pretty responsible
Pretty nuts
Another time I got in trouble
They sued me
One of the actors tried to sue me
Really
She shows
It was her first day of work
Right
She finally gets on a sketch show
Right
And she later became
Like kind of She's on Mad Men And she was on the cover of Playboy.
What's her name?
Her name is Krista Flanagan.
Hold on, we're going to Google this.
Look it up.
Playboy, put that on.
Krista with a C?
Yeah, C-R-I-S-T-A.
One of my best friends in the whole world.
She is?
Yeah, she is.
How do you spell her last name?
Flanagan, F-L-A-N-A-G-A-N.
You guys, you have very weird friendships.
Why?
Because you're friends with somebody, you poop on their floor.
You're friends with somebody, you get sued.
But no, no.
So you said she was in Playboy?
No, but yeah.
But Flanagan didn't know me.
So first day of work, five in the morning, she shows up.
And we had rehearsals in the actor's rehearsal hall.
And she's sitting on the couch.
I had no idea who she was.
She was eating yogurt.
Okay?
So I was so early.
I'm delirious.
I had like 30 minutes of sleep. I walked up to her. I grabbed the back of her head and I farted in her mouth while she was eating yogurt. Okay? So I was so early. I'm delirious. I had like 30 minutes of sleep.
I walked up to her.
I grabbed the back of her head and I farted in her mouth while she was eating yogurt.
Right?
She starts crying.
Joe, she started crying.
Right?
So then Ron Peterson, who you know who Ron Peterson is, right?
No.
The guy that went out with Natasha, Ari, you know that whole thing?
I don't know who it is.
Oh, yeah.
You know what the whole controversy with him was? I know with Ari. I know there was a controversy with him. Where Natasha left with a know that whole thing? I don't know who it is. You know the whole controversy with Ted Payne?
I know with Ari.
I know there was a controversy with her.
Where Natasha left with a Mad TV guy?
Ron Peterson is the guy.
She's very pretty.
Yeah, Ron Peterson.
You farted in her mouth.
You're a confident man.
What made you so confident to fart in this pretty girl's face?
I would fart in her mouth.
So then Ron Peterson physically attacked me, Mike McDonald on the show.
While you farted her?
No, after that because she started crying.
Right.
So you farted.
In her mouth.
In her mouth.
With yogurt.
Okay.
She was eating yogurt.
So she's eating.
You come by.
You fart in her mouth.
When you grabbed her, did your butt touch her face?
No, I had my jeans on.
Right.
Did your jeans touch her face?
But you know how it's powerful that you can go through two layers of underwear and jeans?
That's what it was.
You felt a strong one.
Yeah, like that.
You know what I mean?
A lot of push behind it.
It doesn't go.
It goes.
Did your jeans come in contact with her skin?
Yes.
Really?
With her lips.
Oh, my God.
Right in her mouth.
She started crying.
And then check it out.
So who attacks you?
So Ron Peterson attacks me, right?
What does this Ron Peterson look like? He's a Canadian comedian, actor.
So he comes after you.
Yeah.
And Mike McDonald puts him in a headlock.
Puts Peterson in a headlock.
Yeah.
Is he punching you?
Because he's physically attacking me.
People do that to me all the time.
They just want to physically assault me.
I'm just one of those guys.
And then, you know.
So then two days later, you know, my manager, Abby.
Right.
We just sit there in front front of the Mad TV lawyers
And there was an awkward moment
They have it on tape
They go explain to me what happened
So I go I showed up at work
And I'm like
I see this girl I don't know her
She's eating yogurt
She opened her mouth
I farted in her face
In her mouth
And then there was a 15 second awkward pause.
You know what I mean?
Where people are like writing things down.
You know what I mean?
And then one guy just says, why?
Right?
And I go, I don't know.
You know what I mean?
Right.
And they shut it off.
So then I made a deal where I bought her a $500 gift certificate to Burke Williams.
Right?
Gave it to her the next couple of days.
And I wrote her into a popular sketch that I did.
And everything was fine.
We became very good friends.
Damn, fart in my mouth and make a Best Buy.
Wow, man.
You know, it's an unfortunate thing when people try to fuck around on sets and just have fun.
You never know right before you do something sometimes if it's too far patrice o'neill had a really funny point once
where patrice was talking about um imus about uh when imus got in trouble for saying something
about uh black people remember that yeah yeah and he said that you can't you can't no one knows
exactly what the fuck they're gonna say before they say things like
that and sometimes sometimes you say things that are across the line but he's like that's but that's
where all funny comes from if it misses or it hits it's still coming from the same place it's just
trying to get a laugh and he's totally right that's what it is yeah it's it's like people that
aren't in the comedy business man they don't really understand that in order to be really
funny you you can't really have very. In order to be really funny,
you can't really have very many boundaries.
And you know where we're from.
The store.
I have so many pictures of you naked, dude.
I have pictures of you tucked,
standing in the middle of the...
I've been raped there.
All kinds of things have happened growing up.
I have a series of pictures of you
with your pants down at the comedy store
from over the years. Most of them, he has his dick tucked in between comic club. I have a series of pictures of you with your pants down at the comedy store from over the years.
Most of them, he has his
dick tucked in between his legs and his
legs pinched together and your shirt is off.
The fucking lotion in the breath. Probably on a Sunday too.
Who cares, right? Probably a Tuesday.
And then you show up at a corporate
workplace, like a
network show, and you bring that into
there and they're like, no.
Yeah, no, no, no.
When we were on
news radio, there was a lot of chaos for a while
because they would let us drink on the set.
So we would be done with the show
and we would get fucking
hammered. We would get so hammered
that no one knows this.
Because I never took...
I shouldn't have done this. We blamed it
on some band. We had a band that was
at our studio or on the stage. I forget what the done this. We blamed it on some band. We had a band that was at our studio or on the stage.
I forget what the band was.
Some very heavy metal band.
So it was perfect to blame it on them.
Yeah, yeah.
And they were in a scene with us.
God, I want to say Anthrax.
Was that a band?
Yeah, they were.
They were, right?
One dude had a shaved head.
Yeah.
So anyway, we were all hanging around.
It was me and Dave Foley and Maura Tierney just fucking smashed, smashed.
And then we're hungry.
Yeah.
And Maura goes, we can only get in the craft service room.
And I'm like, I can get in that room.
And I fucking taekwondo'd the door.
I kicked the door, smashed the door frame.
Really?
Yeah.
One kick. I kicked open the door and the door frame, bent the fucking thing. Yeah, one kick.
I kicked open the door and went inside and we fucking chowed down,
opened up the fridge, and then they were so pissed
the next day they're blaming it on the band.
And we were like, yeah, that's fucked up.
That's terrible. Those guys were
fucking, and they were going to stop drinking
on the set because of it. Andy would
get smashed. Oh, yeah. And Andy
would bring these shady fucking characters over.
I swear.
There would just be strange smells
coming out of this fucking dressing room.
It was just a fun, fun set, man.
That's the thing.
You don't get real good comedy
unless you get the type of people
that don't have that many boundaries.
Yeah.
People that'll go out there.
Yeah.
People that'll pull their fucking pants down.
Like, all my friends that are comics,
they pull their pants down
they do stupid shit
they'll say
I dare you to go do this
they're probably going to do it if it's funny
I've seen like 9, 10
comics penises over the last
week
like Chris D'Elia's, Pauly's, I've seen Pauly Short's
penis, I'm not even lying, 832
times over a lifetime and it's just, I didn't ask Chris D'Elia's, Pauly's. I've seen Pauly Short's penis, I'm not even lying, 832 times. Over a lifetime.
You know what I mean?
And it's just, I didn't ask.
Chris D'Elia's penis looked like Al Magical's penis?
No.
D'Elia's penis, by the way, is very large.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, but people don't know.
Tell that to Al Magical.
Why?
Was Magical's penis big?
No.
No, it's pretty large too, I guess.
No, I don't think it is.
It's impossible.
That Al Magical has a big dick? Yeah,, I guess. No, I don't think it is. It's impossible. That Al Magical has a big dick?
Yeah, it's impossible.
Really?
I don't think so.
Because he's a Hispanic.
What are you talking about?
Hispanics don't have little dicks.
They have huge monster dicks.
Mexicans, are you blowing?
No, I'm not blowing any Mexican.
What are you talking about?
They have big penises.
They don't have small ones.
But they're not the big penis people.
They're not black people.
But neither are Irish people. Well, Irish people are supposed to have small penises they're not the ones but they're not the black big penis people they're not like black people but it wouldn't but neither are like irish well irish people are supposed to be small penises
no they're thick penises irish curse to me the only difference between a mexican guy and asian
guy except for culturally but physically i'm talking about is the eyes what yeah the eyes
you you if you take a mexican guy you get him really high, he's fucking from Okinawa.
You're right.
But they're more, well, they are Asian, really, because what American Indians are, it's people that came down from the Bering Strait.
That's right.
Well, some people have a different theory that mankind started in America and they went
the other way.
Hmm.
You know what I mean?
Well, you know, that's also possible.
Human beings have been around so long, they've made a bunch of recent discoveries that have
way, way, way pushed back the dates of civilization.
We were talking about this on the podcast recently about Crete.
It's an island that's 40 miles away from the shore, and it's been that way for over 5 million years.
And they found these stone tools that may be as old as 700,000 years old.
They're at least 100,000 years old.
So they know 100,000 years ago, dudes were getting on boats and traveling 40 miles.
I mean, that's amazing shit.
It's incredible, yeah.
You know, there's a lot of shit we don't know about people, man.
There's a lot of shit we don't know about people.
But as far as, like, what we do know is that the people that were in Asia are the same people that were North American Indians.
And then North American Indians got fucked by Spaniards, and they created Mexicans.
That's what it is.
That's why some Mexicans look like Indians.
They look like, you know, you could just make a fucking headdress and he'd be sitting bull,
you know?
And what also people don't understand is, is that, you know, Japanese and Koreans, which
I'm Korean, right?
We have calcazoid strains in our DNA because there's, you know, we're from Mongolia, right?
And they're so close to Russia, right?
That it mixed a little bit.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
So we have that, you know what I mean? So we have that.
You know what I mean?
So I'm kind of white.
Well, Russia,
there's a lot of parts of Russia,
like Siberia especially,
where the people look very Asian.
They look like Bjork.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they have a weird,
you know,
sort of an Inuit look to them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's really interesting,
that shit.
Yeah, it's a trip, man.
It's a trip when you step,
but it's really a trip
about Asians.
I mean, the real trip
is the stereotype that they look exactly the same.
And they don't, of course, look exactly the same.
But I don't have to tell you that.
But it is kind of weird that you have an entire group of people
with narrow eyes and the same color skin and black hair.
I mean, there's like zero variation.
That's crazy that there's a billion people like that.
A billion plus, really. I mean, that's crazy there's a billion people like that yeah you know a billion
plus really i mean that's really amazing when you look at the the very minute amount of variation
as opposed to european countries and even african countries but let me say something to you okay
it's just that okay i ran into you and eddie once at the sherman oaks galleria you guys were working
out at the at the gym there okay and i was maybe was maybe a hundred feet away from you. Right. Right. And there was probably 20 other Asians in my area.
Right.
Right.
And you from a hundred yards go,
Bobby.
And I turned around.
Right.
Was it like that too?
Like,
Hey Bobby.
Yeah.
You yell from like a hundred yards.
I talk at the gym.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No,
it wasn't in the gym.
It was outside the gym.
Right.
It was outside the gym.
And so you recognize me from a hundred yards away amongst Asians.
So we don't look alike.
Well,
Bobby,
I know who you are.
What?
That's what I'm saying.
We're friends. My eyes are good.
I'm healthy.
I understand that.
So what I'm saying is that we do have differences.
Sure, you have variations in the same theme.
The same theme over and over again.
The theme.
Yeah, the same skin color.
Look, this is not racist.
There's a bunch of people right now.
This is not dedicated to you.
This is dedicated to the people that will start fucking complaining
Either on a message board or on Twitter
I heard that shit you said about Asians
It's so racist
No, it's just an observation
I don't find it racist
To me, it's a fascinating thing
There's nothing negative about it
But what's fascinating is that
Especially in China and Japan
There are a
gigantic group of people that look very very similar and you know there's not like a lot of
black influence there's not a lot of european influence the fact that they were able to stay
so pure for so long is really quite shocking when you look at the history of the human race the
human race has been around for you know however many hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years
that they've been so concentrated in this area that it's been you know asians breeding with
asians like almost almost exclusively but that's the one that's the reason why i've only dated one
asian guy in my girl in my whole life you said guy and i said girl patty i heard you say guy girl
girl guy okay okay girl so girl patty she was a power a Power Ranger In the space one
When they went to space
Yeah
She was hot right
She was hot
She was beautiful
So when I was in the bed with her
Right
You know how
It's dark
And your eyes get adjusted
To the light a little bit
The darkness
You saw yourself
No I didn't see yourself
I saw the guy from Heroes
I saw
I saw the lady from Grey's Anatomy
I saw my Uncle Han
I saw Kim Jong Il
You know what I mean I saw I saw everybody Kim Jong Il And afteromy. I saw my Uncle Han. I saw Kim Jong-il.
You know what I mean?
I saw everybody.
Kim Jong-il. And after that, I said, I can't do it anymore.
Wow.
You can't?
Yeah, so the girls that I date are always either six foot two, blonde, Scandinavian
looking ones.
Wow.
Or like, you know, skinny, tall Mexicans that are, you know what I mean?
But it cannot be Asians.
Wow.
That's crazy.
I knew a girl who was Chinese And she had a thing with her dad
And just Asian guys
Made her throw up
Like she couldn't even imagine
Asian guys fucking her
Yeah
It was so sad
Yeah
Like a poor kid
Yeah I'm the same way
Imagine like
If you're so
Just one group
Just fucking
Whoever was the representative
Of that one group
Fucked up so hard
Yeah but that's
You know the Asian parents
Are really the worst Really? They are the worst Because they come to this country representative of that one group fucked up so hard yeah but that's you know the asian parents are
really the worst really they are the worst because they come to this country and they just assume
that they're going to have their children here and that they're going to be doctors and lawyers
i mean that's flat out there's like three options right so if you come home with c's you're getting
a beat i got beat so hard bro really yeah just beat because i got a c on my report card
now how do your parents feel now that you're you're real successful as a comedian do they
accept that no but when they first did started doing stand-up they didn't talk to me for years
bro whoa yeah i mean i would say like for birthdays i go happy birthday thanks dad okay bye that's it
yeah wow but i understand culturally what that's about, right? And then when they saw me on The Tonight Show,
Leno, like 12 years ago I did it, right?
That was the first moment where they went,
oh, we fuck up.
We totally fuck up.
So my guy called me emotionally,
and I've never seen the guy cry before.
Wow.
And he started crying on the phone and goes,
I should have supported you,
but I didn't because i never thought
you could make it you know what i mean well they made a mistake that's heavy man yeah and it was
like a good bond you know what i mean that they that they you know i mean discovered that they
made a mistake yeah that the whole time like me getting bad grades in school me get kicked out of
school you know what i mean and all the behavioral problems you need that
to be a comedian
yeah
I know
I don't know a single comedian
that got straight A's
and fucking
studied all the time
and had a lot of options
maybe Dane
Dane
they could have been good in school
I think
did he?
yeah
maybe that's his fucking problem
yeah
I mean that's the root of it
right there
and that's why
can I just
my last point is
the reason why
that guy
Cho Sung-Wi shot up Virginia Tech.
Because his parents were just super suppressive.
His parents always saw the kid talking to imaginary people in a park.
Now, a normal parent would go, that is a mistake.
That's something wrong.
But since the kid was getting good grades in school, they just go, you know what?
He's getting good grades.
They never address the problem that he's fucking crazy.
Like my parents, I got bad grades, but I was always a good guy.
Like if I saw a homeless guy, you know what I mean?
I would give them a dime or whatever I had in my pocket.
You know what I mean?
I was never an evil person.
You know what I mean?
I had a good heart. But they didn't acknowledge that part my pocket. You know what I mean? I was never an evil person. You know what I mean? I had a good heart, right?
But they didn't acknowledge that part of me.
You know what I mean?
Of course.
They only acknowledged that is he getting good grades?
What college is he going to go to, right?
So as soon as the guy shot up the school, the Korean community harbored, okay, this kid.
The appearance of the kid.
So that's why you can't find an interview online with the parents.
Like what the fuck happened, right?
The Koreans harbored the parents so the media couldn't get to them.
Then they shipped them to Korea.
They shipped the parents to Korea?
Yeah, the Koreans don't live here anymore.
Wow.
They live in Korea, hiding, you know what I mean, in Pusan or something, in some village.
It's kind of a fascinating thing that when someone does something fucked up, you never blame who made them.
If my dog goes out and bites people, like all of a sudden, you asshole.
You know, what did you do with your dog?
Why is your dog so mean?
How come your dog wasn't contained in your yard?
But if your kid goes out and fucking shoots people and shoots up a school, nobody like pulls you aside and go, hey, what the fuck was going on when this one was being made?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you saw Jeffrey Dahmer's parents still, you know defend yeah themselves like you can't defend that shit you can but you you can't rather but who's to say
that someone can't just be broken who's to say that you can't just have normal people and this
kid's just got a fucking wild screw loose period and there's nothing you can do about it but can
i say something joe and i i disagree with you on this point okay because you know i met your
daughters right just these well-adjusted, beautiful kids, right?
I guarantee you they're not going to eat somebody.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They will not eat somebody.
That's a poor example because that's just a few that worked out well.
We're not talking about the average person.
We're talking about, like, the thing about Dahmer is a perfect example
because apparently he was never abused, you know?
But his parents weren't together.
They weren't together, but that doesn't mean anything.
And the father, when he saw Dahmer with a dead dog,
I brought home a dead animal, right?
Right.
To my dad.
Right.
I go, look, daddy, I found a cat.
Right?
Right.
He beat the shit out of me until I could no longer even move.
Really?
And I never brought home dead cats anymore.
Did he make you eat it?
Right.
Okay, but this is a guy
that was killing a bunch of things
when he was really young, right? Yeah, yeah.
But he's
one of the few cases that
from what I've read online, maybe you know more
about the case than I do, but from what I've read
more online, there's no evidence that he was ever molested,
never had any stories about it, and his parents
were seemingly normal. Yeah, maybe you're right.
Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right.
I don't know.
But I think a lot of it has to do with upbringing.
Nurture, yes.
A lot of it does.
But maybe not all of it.
I mean, look, if someone can be completely psychotic like that Virginia Tech struder
or like many other serial killers, I mean, who knows?
There might be a variety of things that can go wrong.
It might not just be nurture.
It might also be nature.
That might be possible.
But there also, I mean, you have to admit, admit though that there is a mental deficiency right sure something going
on yeah and there are medications out there right that are there medications that can give you a soul
that's true you know i'm saying there's some people that are sociopaths and they literally
they have no feeling for other people all they think about themselves we know a bunch of them
we know a few comics that are sociopaths.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, Mencia is a clear sociopath.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No question about it.
Yeah, yeah.
No question.
Yeah.
You know, there's a disconnect
between, you know, these people and reality
for whatever reason.
And almost all of them,
it's some sort of sexual abuse when they're young.
Yeah.
Almost all of them.
Well, you know, yeah, Mencia,
I guess it came out in a different way
than it was what you're saying.
You know what I mean? Instead of, like, slaughtering a village. Well, it can come out a bunchcia, I guess it came out in a different way than what you're saying. You know what I mean?
Instead of, like, slaughtering a village.
Well, it can come out in a bunch of different ways.
It can come out in drug addiction.
It can come out in, you know, prostitution and girls who do porn, you know.
But my view, but you know my view on Mencia, you know, that, you know, I see a side to him that no one, like you guys, don't see.
Play the music.
No, no, no.
I don't want music.
Give me some love music. Look, I, no. I don't want music. No, no, no.
Give me some. No, no, no.
Give me some love music.
Look, I know.
You know I've always.
You've known him for a long time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I don't see.
Well, you're like the neighbor that, you know, when, well, what was Dahmer like?
Well, he was a nice guy.
He always said hi and.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe I am the neighbor.
He was always kind to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe I'm the neighbor.
You're the neighbor, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But the neighbor doesn't get it.
Look, no one who's evil is evil to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe I'm the neighbor. You're the neighbor, right? Yeah, yeah. But the neighbor doesn't get it. Look, no one who's evil
is evil to everybody.
I mean, fucking,
maybe Ed Gein had a nice cat
that he treated well.
Right, right, right.
What the fuck?
I love that guy,
Ed Gein.
Creepy, dude.
Do you?
Well, just in a sense
that like, you know what I mean,
inspiring these huge movies
like Silence of the Lambs
and...
Yeah, it's a fucking scary thing
because he was doing it
back when there was no other examples of it.
That was just what he's supposed to be doing.
It's not like this guy learned about it in movies.
No, he was making clothes out of people.
Right, right, right.
I think making a lampshade is worse than making clothes.
They found lampshades from World War II
that Nazis made out of Jews.
They found one recently. It World War II. They were made out of Nazis made out of Jews. They found one recently.
Oh, my God.
It was preserved.
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So crazy.
It's horrendous.
No one's going to buy that.
How could you put that out in your living room?
Sick are some people, man.
Did they make clothing, too, and everything, or just lampshades?
Did they have Jew bras?
I think they just fucking slaughtered people and did whatever they wanted to them.
Don't ever say Jew bras.
Don't ever say Jew bras in front of me again.
Do you have in your house a room devoted to Kim Jong-il,
like newspaper articles all over a wall and circles
and private investigator photos?
Do you know him?
Why would I know him?
Because it seems like he would be your enemy right now if I was you.
Why?
Because it seems like he's in everything right now.
Do you feel some kind of competition?
I don't know anything
about the dude.
Brian has brain damage.
When he was a young man,
he was asleep
and he lived in an apartment
and for years,
carbon dioxide
was blown on his head
through an open event.
I'm not kidding.
Brian, listen.
He had brain damage.
Can I just say something to you?
Okay.
When I was born,
I saw all the shows
that you saw.
Right.
Because I lived in America.
And TV, I listened to the Beatles.
You know what I mean?
I smoked high with my friends on a hammock.
When did your parents come here?
In the late 60s.
Right?
And what's crazy about my parents is they didn't even meet in Korea.
They met here.
Wow.
Right?
They met in a disco.
And they're both super Korean.
They're super Korean, but yeah.
Very traditionalists.
I mean, not now.
So now you grew
up in san diego right yeah now that's where i met bobby when i met bobby bobby was bobby was a
doorman do you're a doorman i was a doorman it was like 97 96 maybe yeah maybe earlier maybe
earlier yeah it was uh i just moved to la i'd only been here for a little while and i was doing a
weekend at the la jolla comedy store and it was me and Jimmy Schubert and Bobby.
I think Diaz was with us.
I don't think so.
I think Diaz was still in Seattle at the time.
And we went to a strip club in San Diego, and there was these Mexican gangbangers that
were like the real deal, like tattooed tears in their face.
And this one dude, he had these crazy murderer eyes.
And Jimmy Schubert was like, I don't know what happened.
Jimmy was trying to get a dance from one of their girlfriends or something
or said something to one of their girlfriends.
And so the guy got up and he got in Jimmy Schubert's face
and Jimmy Schubert was trying to apologize.
And Bobby Lee just got all crazy.
Like, fuck these fucking pussies.
Bobby Lee, like, these guys ain't shit.
These guys are pussies.
And he was saying it like loud. And the guys were looking at us. And I just got up and I said, these guys ain't shit. These guys are pussies. And he was saying it loud
and the guys were looking at us and I just got up
and I said, I'm leaving right now. Whoever's coming with me
is coming with me. I'm leaving right now. I knew.
We were moments away from someone
getting shot. I don't have
street smarts. Oh my god.
Talk about negative street smarts. These dudes
had tattoos on their face. There's certain dudes
where you look at them and you go, these guys are posers.
These guys were murderers. There's no question about it.
We were 15 minutes
away from Tijuana.
This is the old days
when it wasn't even hard to go back and forth.
Back in the 90s, bro, you needed a driver's license.
It's all you needed. You didn't have to have a passport
to go to Mexico or come back and forth.
Dudes were coming back and forth all the time.
Cab drivers didn't even... They could just drive back and forth.
It was so easy.
So there was a lot of crime and dangerous crime.
It was like you would run into pockets of like extreme danger.
And that's when we were involved in a pocket of extreme danger.
And there's Bob being like, fuck these guys.
These guys ain't shit.
Fuck you guys, you're pussies.
These guys are pussies.
He's like saying it loud.
And I don't know if you were drunk at the time.
You might have been drinking.
No, no, no.
Were you sober?
Yeah.
I was 23.
Okay.
I just left the hometown Poway was where I grew up.
Poway?
Yeah.
It's called Poway.
It's outside of San Diego?
Yeah.
It's like east of 30, 25 minutes east of like downtown San Diego.
Right.
Right.
And I didn't know much.
Okay.
I just started doing standup.
I wanted to impress you because, you know what I mean?
You're a headliner and I'd never met headliners.
You know what I mean? Like he's a headliner. So I wanted to impress you because you're a headliner and I'd never met headliners. He's a headliner
so I wanted to act tough.
And I came across looking like a fucking asshole.
Well, it's not how you came across. It was the
threat that you had put us into.
I apologized over the last 15 years.
Oh, it's no big deal, buddy. It's just a funny
story, man. I still love you.
It's just a funny story.
But I just remember, this little motherfucker
is going to get me killed.
Yeah, and I remember that. I remember it vividly a funny story But I just remember This little motherfucker Is going to get me killed Yeah
And I remember that
I remember it vividly
Yeah
He was so incredulous
Even now
We're waiting to get in the car
Ah you guys are overreacting
Get in the fucking car
I don't know what was wrong with me
Yeah yeah
I've seen murderers before
I've met them
Yeah I've never
There's a certain tweak
In a person's eye
When they've already killed somebody
Sounds like nonsense
But Joe
I was just in South Africa
I did some shows out there
Yeah
Three o'clock in the afternoon
I walked out of my hotel room
And all of a sudden
I'm on the floor
What?
Yeah
I go
Why am I on the dirt?
Right?
And these two black guys
From South Africa
Were robbing me
Whoa
And I
And
And
I don't have any smarts
You know what I mean?
So what
Would they hit you with something?
Or they throw you out of the room?
No I walked out And I just I saw these two guys kind of following me right like oh like
i don't have that instinct right you know what i mean and the next thing i know they throw me
onto the ground these two huge black dudes right and then like my face is in the dirt and they take
my blackberry and i had some cash in the other pocket. They ran off and then Ian Bagg
and I
looked for two hours for them.
What were you going to do? I don't know, nothing.
Why would you look for them? Because I was going to buy my Blackberry off of them.
Oh, that's good. Like they're going to accept
money and give you something that's worth
money for your money. Fuck you.
That's the dumbest thing
I've ever heard. I'm just telling you this happened
and the thing is I just don't have any street smarts.
Wow.
Yeah, I just don't have that instinct.
I grew up in the suburbs.
Wow.
That's not just not having street smarts.
That's like you haven't thought this out.
And Ian Bagg was down with this plan?
Yeah.
What's his problem?
He's from Canada.
I think me and Bobby grew up together in the same apartment.
He's Canadian.
Wow.
That's pretty crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that's the same kind of thing that... Africa is very tricky in the same apartment. He's Canadian. Wow, that's pretty crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's the same kind of thing.
Africa is very tricky, isn't it?
It's crazy.
How long were you there for?
A month and a half.
Whoa, what were you doing there for a month and a half?
I did a bunch of shows in Johannesburg, Durban, and Cape Town.
That's crazy.
It was crazy, bro.
I did it with great comics, though.
Mencia.
Not Mencia.
Pablo Francisco.
You keep getting them confused.
I know. Pablo Francisco. You them You keep getting them confused I know
Pablo Francisco
You know all those
Yeah yeah
Gabriel Glazer
No
It was Pablo
Me
Ian
Orny Adams
Wow
Okay I saw a photo
With you and Orny
Online somewhere
That was it
Yeah
Yeah yeah
So what was the experience like
First of all
What are the audiences like
They're Africans
No they're just white and blacks
It's amazing
DM words
In what way
In the best audiences
I've ever played in front of
Really
You crush
You absolutely crush bro
Really
Because comedy's only like
10 years old there
Whoa
Right and they get
You turn on the TV
You see two and a half men
All these shows
That they get from America
But they can't do it themselves
No they have a couple
There's a guy named Trevor Noah
Who's a huge star out there.
Really?
Yeah.
He's a black guy.
He's huge.
And there's another guy named Luis.
So it's new.
So if you're a stand-up in South Africa, you get ad campaigns.
Like just Verizon and Trevor Noah.
You know what I mean?
Just huge posters.
It's a market.
Dude, Donham is now playing out there.
Who?
Jeff Donham.
Like everyone's going out there now.
Really?
Yeah.
Rogan, Joe. Pass now playing out there. Who? Jeff Donham. Like, everyone's going out there now. Really? Yeah. Rogan, Joe.
Pass.
You would kill.
There's plenty of places I don't get to go to in America.
I got to get back to Houston.
I haven't been to Chicago in a year and a half.
Fucking Houston.
I'm not going to fucking Africa.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that if they don't know me, you know what I mean, and they're
still coming out.
Right.
Well, they probably got mad TV, didn't they?
No, they don't.
No?
No.
They don't know
who the fuck i am i opened bro really yeah i mean i had orny and all these guys go they know who
orny is no but the thing is is that the the producers of the show were like because asians
are third class citizens there whoa we're like we're like the blacks of south africa right whoa
so it's like you know like we were like riding the back of the bus like but up until 10 10 years
ago really yeah they had a back of a bus for riding in the back of the bus up until 10 years ago.
Really?
Yeah.
They had a back of a bus for Asians?
I like back of the buses.
Yeah.
They just, they were not, we weren't able to vote.
Really?
Like 15 years ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they view me as like, you know what I mean?
Like scum of the, which is crazy.
You know what I mean?
It is absolutely unfathomable.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
So it's like, so I went up first and I could feel every show, dude, people going, oh, you
know what I mean?
Like just, and I just know, you know, bang, bang.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So you could feel that they were like judging you?
Not judging me, but there was a feeling of like, what the fuck is this shit?
Right?
Really?
Yeah.
How is that not judging you?
Maybe.
But the thing is, I know as soon as I opened my mouth and I just said the first couple
of jokes, I had them on my side.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
You just crush.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
Because A, they've never really seen Asians that have an American accent that doesn't have an accent.
Right.
Right?
So that in itself is shocking to them.
And B, me just talking like an American, which I am.
And then me, C, being funny, you know what I mean, shocked them too.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
So it's crazy, yeah.
So you were there for a month and a half?
Yeah.
How many shows did you do?
Oh, God, a lot, bro.
I did like, I don't know, 35.
Holy shit.
30 to 35.
Who booked that?
There's a festival out there every year.
You should do it, dude.
And it's 30, no, I'm not going to go in there for 35 days.
Oh, you can't do it?
I don't want to.
I don't like going for any place.
I don't even like going places
For four days
I like three days and done
In and out
But for me it was just like
You know cause I just
Never been there
And also you know
That was
It was just like a slow time man
Wow
35 fucking days in Africa
And did they pay you
In gold coins
And shrunken heads
Yeah was the AIDS good
No the food
Did you worry about malaria
Did you worry about malaria
No the money was great
George Clooney got malaria Yeah dude it's like it's like being he did he did it really yeah he
did oh he did dude it's like being anywhere else kind of like if you're in cape town it's like
oh there's a you know a coffee shop and uh you know i mean clothing store you know starbucks
are there no there's another thing called there's a there's only difference is they rob you
everywhere during the day.
They have no.
People get robbed all the time.
Wow.
One of the producers of the show said, yeah, I was on the freeway during the day.
And some black guy just walked up to her door and said, I want the car.
So she just got out and gave him the car.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Pass on Africa, please.
Is there a lot of flies?
No, dude.
Why would you tell me to go to a place where you get robbed all the time?
What's so great about it?
I'm just saying, though, because I just think that you're a great comedian in stand-up.
You know what I mean?
I just think that there's no one like you that's ever played there and that you could clean up.
I don't want to.
I'm just telling you.
We could hang out with D'Antwoord, man.
I love D'Antwoord.
D'Antwoord's over here.
They're hanging out with Jimmy Kimmel
I love Antwoord
Oh really
Love them too
I love them
Yeah I called his cell phone
That's his voicemail
Beep boy
Beep boy
Oh it is
I love that
Yeah yeah
I love them
That's cool
Yeah we went gaga on them
When they first came out on the podcast
But that's how I know about them
Because of
Because of us
South Africa
Oh because of being in South Africa
Are they big there
And also
So you found out about them
Way before everybody else
Yeah and also
Those guys
The way they look
That's what a lot of the white people look like
Now how popular is D Antwerp
In South Africa?
Was it huge?
Yeah I know
But you go to a hip hop store
They have hip hop stores
You know what I mean?
Right
There's a poster or whatever
You know what I mean?
And you know
They have radio stations
That play just regular music
It's a normal place.
It's just all intense.
It's just new.
You know what I mean?
Civilization is new.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It is new.
That's what's scary about it, man.
And it borders so much wild shit.
But that's how Russell Peters, he did his first theater show in South Africa.
And that's how he got, he did his first theater show in South Africa. Yeah. And that's how he got
the momentum.
Well, sort of,
but Russell's just,
first of all,
you know,
he has a huge following
in the Asian community,
you know,
Indians and Asians.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're just so happy
that there's another comic like,
you know,
or a comic like him out there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they just come out
in massive droves
to support him.
The community's so strong.
Yeah.
But Russell sells out
like that everywhere.
It's not just
You know he's crazy
He does two nights in a row
But this is before he had that
Really?
Yeah yeah
His first theater show
Was in South Africa
How far is that flight?
Isn't that like 16 hours?
No it's like
It's a 24 hour deal
Because you do 12 to Amsterdam
And then you do another 12 to South Africa
God damn
I know it's the worst
Really?
Yeah
It's the worst
24 hours in the air You feel like It feels like two weeks in the air 12 to South Africa. God damn. I know, it's the worst. Really? Yeah, it's the worst.
24 hours in the air.
You feel like, it feels like two weeks in the air.
Oh my God. You start sweating.
You start sweating after a while, right?
It must wreck your body too.
Yeah, yeah.
What is 24 hour jet lag like?
It tears you up.
It tears you up.
And you have to do business class, at least.
Tell me this.
What the fuck is going on on planes that make
you feel so fucking bad when you land because i feel like i drink i feel like when i'm on a plane
i feel like it's like the same feeling i get when i do a show and have like three shots yeah that's
what it feels like the air quality you're pretty much hot boxing you're breathing other people's
insides yeah is that what it is yeah and you don't know what you know people are just filthy animals
yeah you know when you sleep on a plane, you always sleep with your mouth open.
Because you sit back like this, and like no matter who you look at, everyone has their mouth open.
So you're just sitting there going, and sucking that in through your mouth.
What is the way around that?
There's no way around that.
Oh, I went to a strip club in South Africa.
It was the worst place I've ever been to in my life.
Really?
I got a lap dance from a girl I could do you not, that looked like Dog the Bonnie Hunter.
Oh, really?
I could get into that.
She had facial hair.
You know what I mean?
Oh, my God.
Yeah, her breast was like, you know what I mean, shriveled up.
It was awful.
And she was touching you?
Yeah, she was touching me, but I'm laughing the whole time.
You know what I mean?
So you did it on purpose.
Yeah, I just did it for fun.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but it's awful.
Did you worry about getting robbed there?
No, no, no.
No?
You just don't worry.
Dude, that was happening.
I got robbed the last day, like the second to the last day I was there, bro.
Wow.
So it was like my, you know.
So did you just let, like when the guy stole your Blackberry, did you try to get another one?
It's a black, you know why?
Because I know I'm leaving this God-forbidden place.
You know what I mean?
I'll go back to civilization.
So you hate it, man.
You're trying to get me to go there.
What's wrong with you?
No, what I'm saying in terms of business.
It's a trap. Joe, in terms of like, you know what I mean, what you would do there business-wise. Yeah. You're trying to get me to go there. What's wrong with you? No, what I'm saying in terms of business. It's a trap.
Joe, in terms of like, you know what I mean, what you would do there business-wise.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's all.
To me, what's the most important thing is having fun.
And 24 hours in the plane is not fun.
You know, like I got a gig coming up in Australia.
I'm doing some place called Rudy Hill.
It's outside of Sydney.
It's like the suburbs.
It's like all I could get because it was like a last-minute thing. And that's because I'm doing the UFC out there. It's outside of Sydney. It's like the suburbs. It's like all I could get
because it was like
a late, last minute thing.
And that's because
I'm doing the UFC out there.
I like doing those gigs.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm doing the UFC.
So the night before,
I'll do a gig somewhere
in Australia
and I've done them in England
and I've done them in Ireland.
I've done them all over the place.
Yeah.
But I'm not traveling somewhere
for 24 fucking hours
to do an audience.
Just to do a show.
Yeah, I can do that
in Burbank, man.
You know what I'm saying?
I can get in my car and do that.
That's just too crazy.
It's too much of a commitment.
Yeah, but that's the only...
When you're at a point in your life
where right now the only revenue you're getting
is through live shows,
you just kind of have to go fuck it.
Yeah, but why fuck it
when you just build up your audience in America, man?
That's how I feel.
There's nothing wrong with doing it. There's nothing wrong with traveling but with for me first of all part of his kids i have kids i can't just go somewhere for a month that would
fucking drive me crazy yeah but i wanted to see great white sharks and shit like that you know
yeah that's kind of interesting i mean that was interesting about australia too seeing crocodiles
and shit yeah and find out that fucking kangaroos kill more people than anything kangaroos fuck
people up in australia they do yeah there's big giant kangaroos Kill more people than anything Kangaroos fuck people up in Australia
They do?
Yeah there's big giant kangaroos
They're so cute though
There's apparently two different types of kangaroos
I forget what color the big ones are
But the big ones will fuck you up
They're like 300 pounds and shit
And they gut people
They kick you with their claws
And there's a toad out there
That's rampant
Everything's trying to kill you in Australia
That they shipped there
From a different place
Right
Because they had
Locusts or something
That they wanted to get rid of
So they shipped these
Indigenous frogs
From South Africa
But the locusts
Were so high up
On these leaves
That the frogs
Didn't eat the locusts
Or whatever
So they just multiplied
And they're poisonous
So they just went rampant
Oh shit
Yeah
People are so god damn smart
Trying to fix ecosystems
Yeah yeah
It fucked that place up
How about just
Spray the bugs
You spray
You cunts
Bobby what was Eminem like
What kind of
What
You met Eminem right
Yeah yeah yeah
What was he like
He's a nice guy
Where'd you meet Eminem
I did one
I was in one of his music videos
Oh really
Yeah
Yeah he
I got a call
Saying come down now because they need you.
So I came down.
I did three sketches.
I played Sulu.
Then I played an Eskimo.
Yeah, yeah.
And yeah, he's nice.
I hadn't met him before.
And I got to meet Dr. Dre, which is great.
He has a huge black hand that just takes my little hand and it surrounds my hand.
And it's so dry and it's perfect.
You know what I mean? Just soft. You know what I mean? It's like Dr. Dre's hand. You know what I mean? and it's so dry and it's perfect you know what i mean just soft you
know it's like dr trey's hand you know and he's so gentle like a giant gentle guy he put his hand
on your back he's huge he's something happened he started lifting weights and got jacked yeah but
he's kind he kind guy yeah because i grew up with nwa i love that stuff yeah so it's like
that was my ice cube once That was the fucking coolest thing ever
when Ice Cube said,
what's up, Joe?
I'm like,
get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, yeah, is that great?
Ice Cube knows my name.
It's great.
It's great.
It's a trip.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so crazy
the people that,
one time I was in Miami,
I was in the front row,
in the front row
was Gloria Estefan.
Whoa, get the fuck out of here.
I didn't know who she was.
Holy shit.
So somebody backstage before I went up there
Gloria Estefan's in the audience
I go, who is that?
And they go, it's Gloria Estefan
She's huge
I go, really? She's huge?
So I went up on stage
And this is what I said
I'm an asshole
Oh no
No, I get up on stage
I go, ladies and gentlemen
Gloria Estefan
No
And then, you know how they shine the light on her?
You know what I mean?
Yeah
And she's blushing She's kind of waving to the audience And I'm still smiling Etoban. No. And then, you know how they shine the light on her? Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.
And she's blushing.
She's kind of waving to the audience.
And I'm still smiling
because I don't know
why I fucked up.
Oh, no.
Right?
Etoban.
And then afterwards,
she just left.
So I was never able
to meet her.
Wow.
And if you're listening,
Gloria Estefan,
I Googled you after that.
You know what I mean?
And I know all your stuff.
And I really,
sorry for
the disrespect maybe she thought you were doing like an asian joke though you know why she's not
asian no no no that you were mispronouncing it you know like you were doing like a character no no
because i don't do that oh you know what i mean so like i i just can't trust me it came out fucked
up oh that's because even the audience went oh you know you could hear them but that's hilarious
that's you know i mean and then one oh that's hilarious you know what I mean
and then one time
because I don't know
what like sports people are
me neither
I did this one commercial
with these two old men
and I was like telling
one old man
to go get me a cup of coffee
can you get me a cup of coffee
you just got one
he's like alright
you know what I mean
and at the end of the shoot
I was left
and they're like
you know who those guys were
I go who
Stan Mikita and Gordie Howe, who are huge hockey icons, right?
So you had Gordie Howe going and getting you coffee?
He did it in a, it wasn't like, I was joking, kind of.
Like, can you get me one of those two?
You know what I mean?
It wasn't like telling him what to do.
I was not a hockey fan when I was a kid, so I didn't know. I knew Bobby Orr was like a name.
I knew it was a big deal.
And so I was working at the Boston Athletic Club
and Bobby Orr used to come there and work out.
And that's one of the first times
I'd ever been around a professional athlete
that had been fucked up from his sport.
I did not know how bad some dudes
got jacked by their sports,
but Bobby Orr had scars up and down both legs
where he had some insane amount of knee surgeries,
like 16 fucking knee surgeries.
Something crazy.
It might even be more than that.
But his knees were so bad that he would play racquetball,
and if the ball went to the left or to the right,
he would just lean and fall to the ground.
He literally couldn't move.
It was the saddest shit ever, man.
Oh, that's so sad. It was the saddest shit ever, man.
Oh, that's so sad.
It was the saddest shit ever.
And he would get, you know what a VersaClimber is?
It's like a pole that's at an angle.
It's got handles for your hands and for your feet.
And you go up and down, up and down with this thing.
And it simulates that you're climbing something.
It's called a VersaClimber.
You can't do it?
I used to have to put him on this thing.
I used to have to help him. And what I used to do is I used to have to get behind him.
And I would have to hold his waist
and he would put one foot in one
of the stirrups and then you'd have to kind of lift
him a little so he could get his foot into
the next one because his knees didn't bend.
Yeah. His knees literally
didn't bend. They went
from like fully extended to like
one quarter. It's like John McCain's arms.
It was way worse than that.
Well, John McCain seems like he can't move them past a certain point on his shoulders.
He's got bad shoulders.
He needs to rehab that shit.
Can you rotate a cup six times?
Whenever I see him, I feel bad because Asians did that to him.
Did they?
Yeah.
Is that what happened to him?
Yeah, yeah.
He was tortured for five years.
Really?
Yeah, they put him in straps, you know what I mean, and rope.
That's what fucked up his shoulders?
Yeah.
Really?
Well, what do you think What do you think happened
Mattress is a car bag
Maybe he slid into third
And
Hit the bag with his hands
That's really what happened
They fucked up his shoulders
Yeah
And when I
They made me play John McCain
What
I'm on
I'm on TV
I can look it up
How the fuck did you play John McCain
Look it up
Put Bobby Lee John McCain
That sounds silly
Right they got the call
I got the call
They're like we want you to play John McCain
I go no
They go why Because people like me torture them I'm not playing him too Well Vietnamese Bobby Lee, John McCain. That sounds silly. Right. I got the call that I want you to play John McCain. I go, no.
They go, why?
Because people like me torture them.
I'm not playing him, too.
Well, Vietnamese.
It's pretty distant from Koreans, right? Well, you know what I'm saying, though.
Right.
If someone said, you Vietnamese, though, you'd be upset.
No, I wouldn't be.
You don't look Vietnamese at all.
No, I love him.
Okay.
It's not that you don't love him.
Yeah, yeah.
But you'd be like, you're an idiot.
You don't know the difference between Vietnamese and Korean.
There's a difference, yeah.
There's a big difference.
Okay.
Can I just say something?
The reason why I said what I said.
Which part?
When you guys put, not you guys, right?
When he put the video on,
that said that I think that...
Oh, that video.
The Vietnamese are jungle agents.
Most people have no idea
what we're talking about here.
Well, I don't know if you read it online.
Yeah, well, most people
are not going to read the story about you online
Bobby Lee once was playing around
And said something about Vietnamese
Wow that's you as John McCain
You look like Donald Trump
Fuck Frank Caliendo
That's what it looks like
Doesn't it?
Look how Bobby Lee is John McCain
And it does not look like John McCain
But the reason why I said that was because of Dad Fan.
You don't like Dad Fan?
No, I wanted to know where my resentment
why I would say something like that
in the fucking first place.
And it was because at that time
he was way bigger than me.
And I knew in my heart
that I could just destroy him.
As a stand-up.
And everyone was saying
That bothered you then, right? Well, it bothered me then because they were saying that I could just destroy him, you know what I mean, as a stand-up. And everyone was saying, like...
That bothered you then, right?
Well, it bothered me then because they were saying he's the funniest Asian guy ever, right?
And I'm like, I know Koi, I know Margaret Cho.
You know what I mean?
I know a lot of Asian comics that are very funny.
Right.
Well, you know, what he had was a killer five minutes, you know?
And I saw Dat Phan.
I was one of the judges for Last Comic Standing.
Yeah.
And the fucking kid destroyed, man.
I mean, he came out and destroyed.
It wasn't the best material in the world, but it was like, who cares?
It's like pop comedy.
That's what he was doing.
But he destroyed.
And then for whatever reason, it was really funny.
But for whatever reason, it just never caught on after that.
That was it.
But the thing is that I know him on the club level, right?
And I know exactly what he can do.
In terms of if you were to put Dat, me, Koi,
like any of the other Asian guys up there,
you know what I mean?
That you would be able to see.
Don't you think that that's corrosive thinking?
Don't you think that that kind of thinking is detrimental
as a person to you?
Like when you're worried about what other people can do
and comparing yourself to them?
No, no, no, no, no.
I don't.
Because I know what you're saying, okay?
It's like, you know, Ken Jeong,
you know, his success.
I'm very happy for him
because I've done,
I went on tour with Ken.
You know what I mean?
We did the Asian tour, right?
He's been on 15, 16 sketches at MADtv.
I know his level
and he's a hard worker, nice guy,
and he's a talent, okay? guy, and he's a talent.
I love him.
I feel the same way about Joe Coy or Steve Byrne or any of these guys.
I have no competitiveness with anybody
but I just know
at
certain people's talent
level and I just felt that
he didn't deserve it.
Yeah, but what do you care? This is my point.
Why worry about other people's entertainment?
No, but Joe, I'm better about it now.
Of course you are now. I know, but you're still
sort of defending it, right?
I'm not really defending it.
What I asked is, do you think that behavior is corrosive?
By saying you're better than that now, you're saying
yes, it is negative, right? It's very negative
and it was a bad time, really bad
time for me. It's tricky with comedians. We were talking about someone else earlier that gets jealous about people. it's very negative and you know it was a bad time really bad time for me it's tricky with comedians
I mean we were talking
about someone else earlier
that gets jealous about people
there's
it's very tricky with comics
for some reason
when comics see
one person's success
they somehow or another
think it as being
taking away something
from them
what is that?
and for me
it's like
I have accepted
you know what I mean
I accept
what I have in front of me I love my life you know what I mean but at the time you know what I mean? I mean, I accept what I have in front of me.
I love my life, you know what I mean?
But at the time, you know what I mean?
It was in turmoil.
Like I wasn't really, you know what I mean?
I didn't know what I was doing, you know what I mean?
Right.
And I was going, you know, I had just gotten sober again, you know what I mean?
So it was a rough time, you know what I mean?
Right.
Just, you know, you're just sensitive, you know what I mean?
Of course.
And so, yeah, I mean, in retrospect, it was really ugly.
Yeah.
My point of view.
That's one of those things you have to learn from now.
Yeah.
But you see it so much in the open mic night days.
You remember when you were an open mic night guy and you were just starting out and then
there would be guys that you work with that started getting work.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, everyone would hate.
I would hate.
I would totally hate on people that would start.
I'd be like, this guy's not even good.
Well, fuck him.
But he's obviously good enough to get a job.
Like, you know, it's not.
Him getting that job is not taking anything away from you.
Yeah, but the thing that you learn over time, though, is that you realize there's so much work out there, right?
That I feel like there's enough for everybody.
But at the time when you're not getting jobs, you know what I mean?
And you know that you're funny. Sure. It's just a difficult transition. Of course. You know what I mean? And you know that you're funny.
Sure.
It's just a difficult transition.
Of course.
You know what I mean?
That's all I'm saying.
Is it because Dat Pham's Vietnamese?
Does that have anything to do with it?
No.
No?
No, no, no.
Because I know Dat from San Diego.
First of all, he's a liar.
Remember, like during the show, you said he'd been doing it for two years.
I started with the guy.
You know what I mean?
In San Diego.
I mean, I have photos with him. You know what I mean, from back in the 90s.
So he had been doing it a long time.
Way long.
You know what I mean?
Living underneath a desk, all these things that he said he was claiming he was doing, you know what I mean?
It's not true.
To me, it was not true.
And also, Marco Cho wrote him a letter because he had stolen a joke from her.
What joke was that?
I don't know what joke.
You know what I mean?
Asian jokes is very tricky.
It's like,
a buddy of mine,
my friend John Tobin
from New York
used to say this,
that when you work
with a bunch of black guys,
he goes,
it's always if there's three comics
and two guys are white
and one guy's the black,
the black guy's always like,
yeah, man,
I was supposed to be closing.
I heard that I was
supposed to be closing.
He goes,
and last, there's two black guys and the black guy, and then they're like, yeah, I'm supposed to be closing. I heard that I was supposed to be closing. He goes, unless there's two black guys in the black guy.
Then they're like, yeah, I'm supposed to open.
I got to get out of here.
I got to get out of here.
Why?
Because they want to be able to use all the black jokes.
I know.
That's hilarious.
That is so funny. It's so true.
It is so true.
Because there's so much hack shit that guys would just rely on because it would work every
time.
Now, you're white people looking around seeing if you could laugh at this yeah it's like jewish material every person that's
a jew has to talk about them being a jew and it's like they all do the same material like when i
went on tour with uh um the four three four koreans we did the kings of comedy was me steve
burn ken and kevin shay and no one wanted to close we would like kind of fight backstage like i you
know i mean i'd have to close sometimes.
You know what I mean?
And it was very difficult.
Because there's so much.
It's not that we went over the material.
It's just the fact that all Asian comics have at least 10 minutes of their act about being Asian.
Right.
Right.
The point of view might be different.
Right.
Or the angle.
Right.
But you had all those probably had the most material, right?
Yeah.
You had the most material.
Yeah. But now I stay. A lot of your killer is asian that do you still do that bit about the
vietnamese guy hiding in the camp no i don't know that's why they want the war they can hide in
they can hide in trees for three weeks you know which is a banana that wasn't it was a killer
that was in that video you were talking about right right? Just before that we put up the one that you got in trouble for?
Yeah, that video, yeah.
Didn't you talk about it in that video?
No, I didn't.
No.
No.
I don't blame you for the video, by the way.
It was just one of those.
You blame me?
Well, for a couple of years, I couldn't even look at you.
Why?
I'll be honest with you.
I didn't say anything.
Can I just say this?
I just need to get this because we
haven't talked about it i just want to bring it up can i bring it up sure anything okay there was a
time about i don't know when two or three years that i felt that there was animosity between me
and your camp what because you never felt it for me. Yes, I did. Really? For me? Yeah, I felt that...
Honestly, I felt that...
Can I be...
Sure.
I love you.
Is that I felt that there was a weirdness because of the whole...
The video that had come out.
No.
And with Ari...
You know what I mean?
Me and Ari not getting along.
Look, when I called you when there was that video that you made where Mencia made you
make that video.
Yeah, yeah.
I called you about it.
I go, look...
And I told you. I go, dude, I'm not mad that video. Yeah, yeah. I called you about it. And I told you.
I go, dude, I'm not mad at you.
It doesn't bother you.
Which was the one biggest mistake, I thought.
Because if you read the feedback after that, oh, my God.
I get threats.
Well, you know, I understood your point of view totally.
I knew you from back in the day.
And I knew your relationship with him.
And I knew that you knew he was sick, and you were trying to help him.
I knew.
I knew the whole story.
It didn't bother me at all.
And for people who don't know, he just made this video saying that he never saw Carlos.
But can I tell you how that came about?
Okay, but let me tell these people.
He made a video saying that he never saw Carlos stealing any material.
And it was one of those videos that looked like one of those terrorist videos where there's a fucking gun
pointed to your head
and a knife under your neck.
Okay, can I,
oh, so this is what happens.
I'm in Canada, right?
The video, right,
comes on.
Right.
And then Mencia calls me
and I,
literally six months ago
I erased the message.
I kept it for that long.
You know what I mean?
Damn it.
I know, it was so,
he was so angry. I can't even. That would be so great to play on a podcast. Yeah, yeah i mean and it was damn it i know it was so he was so angry i can't
even that was so great yeah yeah i erased it damn it so then what happens is like i come back from
canada and i now it's the new season of mad right and lo and behold mencius mind of mencius got
picked up right and it's literally attached to MADtv. Like the studios are.
Right?
So I'm like, and I hadn't seen Carlos since the video went out.
Right?
So for a couple of days, I'm like, I know how to get around.
I gotta get out of this alleyway.
I'll climb the stairs.
Right?
And I'll sneak around the back here. You're wearing disguises.
Yeah, yeah.
This is how I want to get back.
Right?
Well, next thing you know, he grabs one of his cousins, comes to Matt TV, who's a friend of mine, brings me over.
Right.
And then I had like six Mexicans just sit me down.
Are you sure they were really Mexican?
I don't know.
They're Japanese.
Yeah, yeah.
They're Japanese guys.
Don't Japanese people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guatemala.
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, Carlos is there, Ned, and he just goes. Was he sitting in a throne? No, no, yeah. Guatemala. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, Carlos is there, Ned, and he just goes.
Was he sitting in a throne?
No, no, no.
It was outside.
And he just goes, you got to do this for me.
So he did it.
You know what I mean?
And then that happened.
And then, you know what I mean?
The weirdest part about the video, though, what sucked is that, like, you made this video that didn't even seem like you even knew the video you were talking about.
Like, it almost seemed like,
like whatever.
I can't remember the actual words in it.
It sounded like you were talking about a video that you hadn't seen,
which it was even weirder because I got,
I got caught between,
you know what I mean?
Two camps that I,
you know what I mean?
I,
I've always had a relationship with,
right?
I mean,
Joe and I have known each other for so long.
I don't want to have a camp.
It's not a camp.
You don't mean people,
human beings,
not camp.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay. And then, you know, Men. You know what I'm saying, okay?
And then, you know, Mencia had a group,
his group, right? And I felt like
I was in the middle and that, you know
what I mean? I felt like at a time where I had
to choose, I felt like. I stayed
out of it, you know what I mean? For the most part.
For the longest time, I wouldn't
talk about it in radio or anything like that
because people would bring it up. I'd go on tour
and they're like, so, you know what I mean?
And I'd be like, I don't want to talk about it.
You know what I mean?
As far as just like the amount of interest generated by that, that's probably one of the most controversial videos in like the history of comedy.
It probably was, yeah.
It was kind of crazy when you think about it.
But you know what also kind of crazy was you remember what the environment was like before anybody called him on that?
Where everybody was on eggshells and you're constantly terrified of that guy walking in the room yeah it was crazy and then he was becoming successful
he's becoming successful and then just yeah like i said you know i i i just don't see that part
did you see the movie i am funny say that how can you say that because you do you did
because it's still still shit from you man i mean i know you had issues with okay i know can i just
say this though yes all right here's what it is okay like we said before okay that it is like you know one of those
situations where the guy when i was an open micer right used he bought me a car it was a used car
but i didn't have a car right and then he took me on tour him and paulie shore like would rotate
like one guy would take me one you know i mean who was more fun to hang out with on the road obviously paulie because he
didn't make me cry you know i mean but like and also i used to get pussy you can't get pussy at
a mencia show why not because they're all married and have 19 kids and you know i mean and they're
like you know i i any mencia fan i you know i love you but my point is you know i mean but my point
is is this.
So how did he make you cry?
Well, he would make me go to golf with him.
What?
He plays golf and I hate golf.
And I'd have to get early and bring the golf bag.
You would have to bring the bags. I did it once or twice and I stopped doing it.
He would tell you to carry the bags.
No, no, no.
One time he...
Let's move over that.
He made you carry bags?
One time I had to...
We played Denver once and he made me sleep.
He didn't give me a hotel room.
This is what he wasn't doing as well.
It was in the beginning and I had to sleep in Albert's closet.
Get the fuck out of here.
He took you on the road with him
and you didn't even get a hotel room.
He wasn't selling out at the time.
This was literally in 96, 95.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
He was always like, you know, a brother in a sense.
You know what I mean?
You know, regardless.
He nurtured you.
He didn't nurture me.
Like, I think that.
How did you cry?
What made you cry?
Just having to like get up and like, you know, there was a time where you had to sell merch.
And as a young comic, you know what I mean? You don't know what to do you want to make it you know
you want you appreciate the stage time and it was just so he makes you work for
him and on top of just opening up for yeah but to be honest a lot of guys do
that shit dude really yeah I don't when I because I have openers now and I treat
them with the only does oh yeah Paulie does all the time. You know what I mean?
Didn't Pauly get you to work for free?
Didn't Pauly – That's another.
I cannot.
You can't discuss that?
No, because that's another – you know what I mean?
What is this, okay, is Mencius is one thing.
But Pauly, right, he specifically made me a regular there. Like made his mom pass me right right and so there
is a specific relationship no one on planet earth talks to me like paulie talks to me in what way
he talks to me like i'm literally his younger brother still today and i understand it because
you know i've known him for so long but in in the world in the world i'm almost 40 you know i mean i don't let anyone talk to me the way paulie talks to me so
but talks to you in a disrespectful way no it's just like did like he'll say did you know i mean
you should like he'll say stuff like dude you should be bigger than you are now you know i mean
what about you bitch yeah but the thing is i say that No I don't say that Say what happened with you Encino man
Hey
Hey
I have to go to the comedy store
Once in a while
I don't want to hurt any bridges
See what I'm saying though
It's like that
It's like you know
Someone talking to you like that
Is not nice
Yeah but Paulie also
You know
You know when I moved
He's like a big brother though
You know I lived in his house
You know what I mean
You lived in his house
Well he charged me rent
But the thing is
Is that you know
And he brought me on the road So it's like I'm gonna pee really bad i'll be back in one second
okay is that cool sure go ahead so joe there's gonna get his story straight it's gonna go in
there no i don't have my stories what have i said about paulie no no i'm just kidding i'm just
kidding we're just fucking around turn around so joe i saw a movie last night you i you already
bought it i guess it's on the way it's called enter the void and it is like
somebody saw you talk about dmt and tried to write a script around it around some living in tokyo
i mean well maybe they just did it huh well no they it has a lot to do with dmt yeah and i'm
saying maybe they did yeah but how they describe it in the movie sounds like they're reenacting
you it's it's you're gonna fucking like the movie was made for you it's really amazing and then it gets really annoying but
like the first half of the movie is like wow this is fucking cool they show a dmt thing what would
what it feels like to be on dmt for the first half of the movie and there gets parts where it sounds
exactly like how you describe it and then whoever directed the movie which his name is uh hold on i'll tell you one second uh it's directed by gasper no he is brilliant when does it come out
on dvd it came out tuesday i just it's on netflix i probably already have it netflix streaming hd too
but it is so amazing if i ever make a movie i want to make my movie look exactly like this guy
wow brilliant but then it gets really annoying and there's all these like what again annoying If I ever make a movie, I want to make my movie look exactly like this guy. It's brilliant.
But then it gets really annoying.
And there's all these like.
Why does it get annoying?
Well, one of the director's things is like it does like the strobe light thing through it.
It gets so bad that I feel like I'm getting hypnotized.
Like this movie was made by Google or the government.
And it's like, you'll see what I mean.
Like you'll sit there and like, I'm going to have a seizure.
I'm having a seizure.
Wait, I'm being programmed to do something.
All right.
Do you know that there's an Olympic logo that they had
a pole because it was giving people epileptic
seizures? It was an Al Roker
thing where Al Roker, I listened to it
on Opie and Anthony. It was pretty fucking funny
because Opie and Anthony were shitting on
Al Roker because Al Roker
was making fun of epileptics.
He said, so if you're still watching
this, if you're not flopping around on the ground,
and so he starts making fun of it, and then the next day he comes back and says,
I was only making fun of the ad.
I was never making fun of epileptics, which is total bullshit.
When you see this, though, it's amazing that there's not fucking five warnings on the DVD
before you even watch it, because it's so bad that it feels like you're being fucking brainwashed.
Do you remember that dude that we had on the message board that had his wife was epileptic and she would
watch certain avatars on on people's screens they'd have flashing avatars yeah what was his name jim
jim yeah he's a nice guy i hung out with him he was uh marilyn manson's webmaster right really
fucking good dude yeah i hung with him and his wife and his wife has some weird condition where
she uh if she sees anything flashing stro strobing, those little animated GIF files that fly.
She would just tongue rolls back, eyes roll back in her head, falls onto the ground.
This movie would make her pregnant.
That's how bad it is.
What the fuck is it with people that certain things just make your brain shut off, like flashes and strobes?
I can understand that.
If you see this, you'll feel sick understand that like if you see this you'll
you'll feel sick your stomach when you see parts of this movie you'll have to turn away and like
look at the ground for like but is the movie good the movie is the director you'll fall in love with
the director the movie is so good at the beginning and interesting and just you'll never see anything
like it and the trips the visuals if you're stoned when you see it you might have a panic attack i
watched it in 3d last night and i was was like, I am tripping right now.
I feel like I'm on acid right now.
Really?
It's so good.
Then it just gets boring and confusing.
All right, don't tell me about the end.
Why would I want to watch it then if it gets boring?
No, no.
It sounds interesting.
I mean, it's still, I like it, but it just kind of fades off after.
It's really cool, and then it kind of just kind of does this.
Well, you and I don't always agree on movies.
There's probably a few movies that you like that I didn't like.
Have you seen that movie Irreversible?
What?
Irreversible.
Irreversible.
No, what's that about?
It's a movie played backwards, right?
And it's notorious because there's a five-minute rape scene in it in a tunnel, which, I swear
to God, the most brutal thing I've ever seen in my life.
Really?
And people online say it's the worst rape scene ever.
You have to see it.
It's so real.
Is this a Japanese movie?
No, it's German or some shit like that.
Nice.
Yeah, they're fucked up.
Human centipede.
Not into that.
Not into watching people get raped.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I watched Food, Inc. the other day.
Great.
Fucking disturbing, man.
I watched it on the way home from West Palm Beach, Florida.
And it's disturbing as shit, dude.
When that lady started talking about her son dying and about her son got E. coli from a Jack in the Box burger and how he was suffering at the end, I had to shut it off.
But even in the 70s, Jack in the Box had a big controversy where not only one person died, but a bunch of people died.
Right.
Really?
Yeah, from their food.
Dude, food ink is scary as fuck.
And I've had some people email me and tweet me saying that, well, it's not really that bad.
This is propaganda.
They're just trying to shock you. But how can they be trying to shock you if they're showing you reality? And I've had some people email me and tweet me saying that, well, it's not really that bad. This is propaganda.
They're just trying to shock you.
But how can they be trying to shock you if they're showing you reality?
I mean, if what they're showing exists on any level, it's terrifying. When they show these cows that are caked in manure and this one cow, there was a plastic ring and his stomach was exposed.
And they were reaching into his stomach.
I'm like, whoa, what the fuck?
And how about chickens, man?
If you didn't know, I mean, look, if you like your cheeseburgers
and you like to go to Wendy's at 2 o'clock in the morning,
and I do too, man, don't watch this movie.
It's going to fuck with your head.
But these chickens, they give these chickens steroids and antibiotics
and all kinds of things, and they fuck with their genetics somehow
in order to get them to grow so ridiculously big and plump that they can't walk and they die all the time they just fall
down and die not foster farms make fun of like chinese yeah they have those commercials about
how they plump them up and put salts and stuff like that and just make them really fat with like
salt and water and stuff and foster farms that's all their whole advertising is based on that so
their advertising is based on they don't use hormones right oh okay well that's good to know man it's good to know i mean
there's got to be a humane way to make food if it costs a couple bucks more it's it's worth it
i don't know how much more it would cost to not have cows i'm down with eating meat okay
don't get me wrong but but the way that they're doing the way they're producing meat for fast food, it's fucking crazy.
It's totally beyond being humane.
It's beyond that.
It's gotten to this factory consciousness-less, just feelingless place where they're just stuffing all these animals in these small areas and getting as much bang for their buck as they can.
Well, they make this food like they make an iPod.
Like it's a factory system, right?
And there's no love or care or anything.
It's just let's make the product.
That's why people make fun of Chinese all the time for the things that they eat.
Like if you ever go to a Chinese market, you can get anything.
Butterfly wings or, you know what I mean?
Or, you know what I mean?
The shoulder of a meerkat or whatever, you know what I mean?
Like they'll eat anything. But the thing is is that americans eat way worse
right with these cows you know i mean just tainted meat yeah you know i mean people think that well
also first of all china has a billion people yeah okay and it's self-sustainable china doesn't
import food from anywhere else right so that's pretty crazy yeah in and of itself they're able
to feed a billion people when you feed a billion people like that you got to eat bugs okay that's pretty crazy in and of itself. They're able to feed a billion people. When you feed a billion people like that, you've got to eat bugs.
There is a restaurant in Bangkok that serves animal dick.
That's all they do.
And there's a six-month waiting list to get into this restaurant.
What?
Animal dick.
In Bangkok?
How do you order that?
I'd whisper, can I get the dog?
There was an Anthony Bourdain show the other day where they were serving animal dick soup.
Apparently it was really good.
Yeah, it's supposed to get you virile
Wow
Yeah
Really
Check this out
That movie you brought up
Irreversible
Whatever it's called
And the movie I was talking about
Same director
What is the fucking odds
Of that shit dude
Really
That is insane
That's insane
Wow
Yeah it was a good movie
This director
Watch Irreversible
You'll love Irreversible
That's crazy
But you'll stop
The five minute rape scene You'll turn it off Well that was That's crazy. But you'll stop at the five minute rape scene.
You'll turn it off.
Well, that was I was saying.
I was so sad when I was watching this woman cry that her son died from Jack in the Box.
I was like, you know, this is just bumming me the fuck out.
I get it.
I get it.
I get the food's fucked up.
The whole situation's fucked up.
I don't really need to keep going here.
It's just it's like, what are you going to do, though?
That's the big question.
You know, the problem with us is, you know, with everybody is you're always doing something. You're busy. You're hungry. There's nothing we're going to do, though? That's the big question. The problem with us is, with everybody is, you're always doing something.
You're busy.
You're hungry.
What are you going to do?
There's a supermarket, but you don't have time to go there.
Especially on the road.
Yeah, especially on the road.
You know what I mean?
The Waffle House is open.
You're like, okay, I have to go there.
Yeah, yeah.
The road gets creepy as far as food choices go.
I always bring vitamins with me, and I try to eat as much salad and stuff on the road as possible.
I don't understand how they don't have 24-hour restaurants in small right if everyone closes at 11 it's like you can't eat anything you
have to go to the wall i've been i've been to walmart walmart's at like three in the morning
just getting like fruit you know i mean like you know i mean just surviving yeah yeah it's insane
food yeah yeah if you go to small towns there's no 24 hour food yeah yeah that's a tricky thing
and you know you're staying at the holiday inn there's no room service either yeah yeah i've been there something we
talked about a couple weeks ago came true uh when we were talking about how people's jobs are getting
taken away by robots and stuff like that i was at uh el pollo loco the other day which is like a
chicken mexican chicken place and they had the order yourself kiosk up now where you sit there
menu screen like taco Special instructions
No
Burrito
And then you pay for it
Like kind of like
A grocery store
And then
They just call out your name
And give you your food
So they cut out the person
That takes the order
And it's actually nicer
It was so nice
Because you know
A lot of times you order
But you don't even think like
Yeah I would like
Extra tomatoes on this
But I don't want to be
How many times
You've been in a fast food place
And you're talking
It's like who There was a girl on mad tv that
had a really funny sketch about that there was a girl on mad tv she's very pretty and she had a
very funny sketch about a girl who was uh the counter out but she was always like oh bon kooki
yeah that one yeah yeah angela who does that angela johnson she's very funny yeah she's very funny
yeah that girl had a really funny vietnamese nail salon yeah that one too yeah doesn't that bit have
like 10 million hits or something on YouTube?
Yeah, she's a sellout on the road.
From that bit?
She's killing it.
And how many minutes does she have as an act?
22 minutes, 23 minutes.
That's a circle.
I'd heard that she was a middle, and she was middling and crushing and filling places,
and then the headliner would go on after him.
Half the people would leave.
Well, Steve-O's doing that now.
Really?
He's middling?
No, he was in New York.
He hosted, but now he's closing,
but he closes with 30, which is fine. Well, what he should do is host what guys should do if
they're not really bring a bunch of good comics on the road with you and host, you know, I watched
Charlie Murphy, uh, develop an act from nowhere. You know, I've read Charlie two years into his,
his journey, you know, and I watched him as he was trying to put together his act. Yeah. Charlie
went right to headlining, man.
Yeah, I know.
And it was fucking hard.
I bet.
Fucking unbelievable hard.
Did you see that thing online of him getting booed?
Oh, my God, so awful.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's that room.
Mm-hmm.
That room is so retarded.
What room is that?
Oh, no.
What?
What?
Here's what I'm saying.
Black crowds?
No, no, that's not what I'm saying.
What did you say? That's not exactly what I said. No no that's not what I'm saying What did you say?
That's not exactly what I
I didn't say that at all
So what did you say?
It just
Those kind of rooms
Are fucking hard
Difficult
Retarded was the wrong word
Black crowds
Shock the Sundays
No
Black crowds do
There's two kinds
Once you start failing
They're not rooting for you
To get back on your feet
What I'm saying is
Is that I go on
I go on the road
Right
And I get black people
To come to my show
And they're
They're legitimate fans.
And I love them dearly.
That's not what I'm talking about.
There's a cultural thing, you know what I mean?
When you go to certain areas like South
Philly or whatever, and you do a show
and it's all black,
even in the lineup, and you
have to perform, it's the most difficult
situation ever
for a guy like me well you know it's a
different kind of crowd and i think the good thing about those crowds is that they don't let you be
indulgent and uh they want your jokes to come quick they want to come quick yeah they don't
they don't want to wait around they're also tonal right your tone you can't be monotone no you gotta
you know i mean you know yeah some excitement attitude You gotta, you know what I mean? Some excitement, attitude.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
Or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Because now I'm like,
I used to be more energetic.
Now I just kind of talk like this because I want to be more myself.
And no,
not only that,
it's because,
no,
it's because it's pace.
Right.
You know,
when I first started headlining,
I wanted to do what I did as an opener,
which is go out and gung-ho get them
You know what I mean?
As a headliner
And then 15 minutes in you're out
You just can't do that pace for 45 minutes
Well you gotta
First of all it's not fun for the audience either
You gotta create a show
When you go to see a movie
It's not an opening gun scene that lasts for 90 minutes
And then the thing shuts off
You're like what the fuck did I just watch
And you have peaks and valleys
But in black rooms
You can't do that
There's no peaking
I just feel like you have to be like Earthquake
And just hammer it away
He's hilarious
How long does Earthquake do
45
But he's like perfect.
45 sprinting uphill.
Shooting all the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like it's not.
Throw your backpack back and lie on your grass.
And then once you lose them, like in a white room, when you lose them, you think, I'll
get them back.
Right.
There's no getting black crowds back.
Wow.
I want to try it.
I want to try it black.
You will die.
You will die up there, son.
You will get barbecued.
The most important thing with black rooms is economy of words, first of all,
and a short attention span.
You've got to hammer them with bits.
I did my black version of my set once at Flapper's in Burbank,
and it actually killed.
What do you mean the black version?
I just do it more like he said.
Instead of doing your jokes normal, I kind of be like,
I went to the store the other day to get a hat.
My girlfriend got the same one.
He's just starting out.
He's just starting out.
You know Aziz?
Aziz?
Aziz Anzari.
It's kind of like his
whatever his character is.
It's kind of like that, but it worked. It worked, though. That's what I'm saying. He hears Phantom laugh still. First of all, I don't even his, whatever his character is. You know, it's kind of like that. But it worked.
It worked, though.
That's what I'm saying.
He hears Phantom laugh still.
First of all, I don't even know where Flappers is.
Flappers in Burbank.
Is it good?
Have you played there?
Never been there.
Yeah, I may never play there.
I heard it's good.
It's really nice.
I heard it's nice.
Brand new.
You'd like it.
Yeah, I just, no, I just don't do well in those kind of things.
What do you mean you don't do well?
I don't do good in Ha Ha.
The Ha Ha Cafe?
Yeah.
Why not?
Because I don't know what it is.
It's just because I think what it is is because it's free.
Oh, the audience is not paying to go there?
Is that what it is?
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying, though, is that...
You're doing this free set?
No, that's not what I'm saying either.
What I'm saying is that there's two types of audiences, I feel, okay?
That's why I don't comp when I go on the road, because of the fact that if you comp, right,
there's a general feeling of like, you know what I mean?
It's not a good show.
It's not a good show.
You don't expect much.
Exactly.
But when you have people pay, right, people are respectful.
You don't have as many hecklers, you know what I mean?
And I'm fine.
I don't care who comes.
But the thing is that ha-ha, right, not only do they not pay you, but you have to pay for your drinks.
Right.
Like, can I get a Red Bull?
They go, it's $3.
I'm like, I'm playing it for free.
Already there's a feeling of disrespect.
I don't know what Flappers is like,
but I just don't like that disrespect.
Flappers is a real club.
It's nice.
I know what you're talking about.
There's some fringe clubs that are used to dealing with open micers
and guys doing brainer shows.
That's what it is.
When you go and do a set there, they don't treat you differently.
Like, well, here's a paid season.
And I don't need, dude, I don't need much.
All I need is this.
Can I get a drink for free?
Like a bottle of water?
Okay.
And in town, of course, I'll do a million free shows.
You know what I mean?
And be respectful.
Isn't it funny how places like that are just a little bit outside of the city and they're a different world?
It's a different world.
It's a different world.
The crowd feels different.
Yeah.
When you do North Hollywood, do ha-ha.
You see races you've never seen before.
Like, is that an Aztec Indian?
You know what I mean?
Or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like, I thought you guys died off or something.
You know, yeah, it's weird.
Where's your favorite club to work out at?
Seattle.
Seattle?
Yeah.
The Comedy Underground?
No. What place? Parlor Live. Parlor Live? Have you work out at? Seattle. Seattle? Yeah. The Comedy Underground? No.
What place?
Parlor Live.
Parlor Live?
Have you heard of it?
What is that?
No.
Parlor Live is a new club there, and it's attached to one of the Microsoft buildings.
Yeah?
Yeah, and it's a nightlife.
They have pool hall, dance club, comedy club in one floor.
How big is the comedy club?
It's huge.
It's not huge, but it's 300.
Really?
Right?
And it's one of those places Where I sell out
Is it Seattle
Yeah
It's like
It's a little outside of Seattle
But it's like
15 minutes from the city
Right
And it's called Beaumont
Okay
Okay
And literally
It's clean
Like the
You know
The stage is nice
You know what I mean
Right
The green room is clean
Brand new couches
You know what I mean
Right
And it's just a nice Nice environment Right You make a lot of money You know what I mean? The green room is clean, brand new couches You know what I mean? It's just a nice, nice environment
You make a lot of money
You like Seattle?
And the kids, the people that are in the audience
Are nerdy, they make money
And they're just happy to be there
You know what I mean?
It's weird how parts of the country are not hit by the economy
Yeah, that's one of them
When I was in West Palm, they were telling me That no, we didn't are not hit by the economy and other ones are that's one of them yeah when i was in west palm they were telling me that no we didn't really get hit by the economy
i know it's crazy because it's all like retirees and old people with money and i mean i'm sure some
people from west palm like fuck you we got hit yeah you know but the club was like they didn't
really they really didn't suffer yeah like kansas city i went they suffered it feels like there was
a suffering that's the kind of place that yeah yeah like iowa yeah yeah it's the whole thing is so strange because i don't understand the economy so i'm always like
okay well i guess it's better now is it better now is it coming around it's not like my parents
for the last 35 years owned their own clothing store they had owned business you know it's called
the first one's called fashion gal it's a clothing store for fat ethnic women fashion girl yeah
cash fashion gal fashion gal yeah and so it's
like catered to it's like lane bryant but for ethnics okay okay and they did fine over the
last 30 years and as soon as the economy hit i mean they went bankrupt you know i mean i had to
pay for their mortgage you know i mean and they are destitute man it is tough they live in phoenix
you know it's tough for them and they had to fire their whole staff. Now they work.
And they're in their 70s.
Whoa.
Where do they work now?
At the same place.
At the store.
It's called Changes now.
And they do shifts.
Like my mom will do the morning shift.
My dad will come in.
And there's literally a bottle of piss, like a jug of piss.
Because they don't have any employees, right?
So my dad has to piss in a jug.
Oh, my God. Right? Because he can't leave the station my dad has to piss in a jug. Oh my God. Right?
Because he can't leave the station. He can't leave the store.
Oh my God. And he doesn't have a bathroom there.
No, it's in the mall, right?
Oh my God. So it is
sad. What if he has to shit?
He just holds it. What?
Well, unless it's a turtle head situation. He could
die. He could die. He should get a diaper.
So everyone go to, what's
it called again?
What's the name? Changes.
Everyone go to Changes.
It's in Arizona.
What part of Arizona?
Phoenix.
Like outside of the Chandler or something.
Fuck, man.
Mesa, something like that.
Yeah, that's a scary thing, being an old person, you know, when your body's slowly starting
to fade away and you're still laboring every day.
And by the way, that takes years off your life.
You know, getting up before you want to, working, doing things you don't want to do all day.
I told my dad, I go, Dad, you don't have to work.
How much do you need?
They need $2,500, $3,000 a month
to get by, maybe even less.
I said,
with the unemployment and social security,
retire and I'll
take care of the rest.
You know what my dad said?
If I don't work, I die.
So I go, alright, keep working If I don't work, I die. Wow.
Right?
So I go,
all right,
keep working
because I don't want him to die,
you know?
Good call.
Yeah,
but it's sad
because he still got that ethnic,
that Asian work ethic.
Oh, man.
You know what I mean?
That they have to work.
That's a trippy thing, dude.
That's fucking crazy, dude.
Yeah,
it's a very weird thing, man,
dealing with people's mortality
and parents.
God.
It's weird when you realize,
especially your parents get to a certain point in time,
you probably have more information in your head
about the way the world works than your parents do.
Because your parents grew up in a totally
different time. They weren't curious
when they were young.
It's a strange thing, man.
Yeah, it's actually kind of sad.
It is. And it's going to be you someday, too.
Maybe. You think you'll have kids?
No
Never?
No, no, no
You're going to get snipped?
Go Doug Stanhope style?
No
No?
Just hope?
No, because I masturbate so much
That what comes out
Is like vising drops
Yeah
And it's done
That's it?
How many times a day
Are you masturbating?
I do now a couple times
Sometimes two eyes
Once maybe
How often do you use the flashlight?
I haven't used it in six months
Really?
You just go Use your hands instead?
Yeah.
What's wrong with you?
Why?
Flashlight feels better.
Yeah, but then I have to heat the oil.
Then I have to let it cool.
Then I have to put the batteries in the battery.
Speaking of sex, there's a fucking, there's a story in the news today.
And apparently it's a legit story.
There's a man who's suing GlaxoSmithKline, the pharmaceutical company.
And he's alleging that there's a drug that they gave him to treat Parkinson's disease that turned him into a gay sex and gambling addict.
At 51 years old.
The 51-year-old's lawyer says their client's behavior changed radically after he was first administered a drug in 2003 for the illness, which causes tremors, blah, blah, blah.
The man is a married father of two, says he has attempted suicide three times, claims he became addicted to internet gambling, losing the family savings, and stealing to feed his habit.
He also became a compulsive gay sex addict and began exposing himself
on the internet
and cross-dressing.
This risky sexual behavior,
risky sexual encounters
led to him being raped,
his lawyer said.
His behavior stopped
when he stopped
taking the drugs in 2005.
By then,
he had been demoted
in his defense ministry job
and suffering
from psychological trauma
resulting from his addictions.
So he just went on
a gay sex gambling rampage.
That's not what happened, though.
No, but listen, man.
You're not right.
It's not true.
Because I put this up on Twitter, and a bunch of people who are neuropsychologists and a
bunch of different people who are qualified started sending me, I got like six or seven
tweets from people who either are studying it in school or actually doctors in the field,
and they were saying that it's a
dopamine agonist
I think that's the word and that
it does facilitate
addiction and it can interrupt
your natural patterns
of thinking. No I agree with that
but what I'm saying is that
if you
have an addiction of exposing yourself
and doing gay sex that's been hidden inside you for many years.
So you think this was just suppressed?
It's not out of the blue.
What's that?
I want to suck dick out of the blue.
He's taking a crazy drug.
No, not out of the blue.
Maybe it seemed more exciting to him.
Maybe it never, like regular sex.
He's 51 years old.
Maybe regular sex was, God, I'm so tired of getting laid.
I mean, think about another 11 years for you. You's 51 years old. Maybe regular sex was, God, I'm so tired of getting laid. I mean, think about another 11 years for you.
You're 40 years old.
Think about another 11 years from now.
You're like, God, I'm so tired of pussy.
It's so boring.
And then somebody gives you the drug.
You're like, why don't you go suck some cock?
And you're like, why don't I suck some cock?
Why don't you dress up like a girl?
Yeah.
I've heard this phenomenon when people are so jaded with sex, like rock stars or whatever,
or whatever, that they get so tired of it,, or whatever that it, you know what I mean?
They get so tired of it.
It just turns into Dick.
You know what I mean?
I don't agree with that either.
I think Dick was always in the,
you know,
in the picture.
Yeah.
But I think everybody's got their own little story about how,
I mean,
there was a lot of bisexuality going on in the seventies,
like according to many people,
Mick Jagger and David Bowie,
Lou Reed,
all that stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think a lot of that was like, you know, probably one crafty gay dude talked all these other dudes into, you know, it's just cool, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Plus, they're all doing acid and experimenting with their consciousness.
And, you know, it is like one of those lost taboos.
It's like, okay, well, let's stop and look into why is gay sex such a massive taboo.
Okay, I agree with this, okay?
If you're fucked up, like you're faded, you're drinking,
you're almost in a blackout drunk, you know what I mean?
And you're with David Boyd and you're a big rock star
and David Boyd pulls out his penis, right?
He's like, suck it.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
Why do you have to be blacked out drunk?
What I was just saying was maybe they're experimenting
with different ways of looking at the world.
Maybe they're being an artist and being like a rock star, being a creative person.
There's a lot of people that are creative people that are willing to take weird chances and do weird things.
Maybe.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.
So what are you saying?
You know what I mean?
I have gay people that represent me.
Oh, don't go there.
Stop that.
I'm not racist.
I have black friends.
No, no.
Okay.
Oh, you're right.
You're right.
But what I'm saying is this. I don't have anything against. I'm not racist. I have black friends. No, no. Okay. Oh, you're right. You're right. But what I'm saying is this.
I don't have anything against the lifestyle.
I know that.
But you're convinced, though, that this wasn't because of the pills.
What I'm saying is that...
What's this guy's name?
Ted...
Ted Haggard.
Haggard, right?
Just out of the blue.
You know what I mean?
He doesn't...
He's never said out of the blue that he...
He said he was gay the whole time.
He never said that. He's been doing interviews recently where blue that he was gay the whole time. He never said that.
He's been doing interviews recently where he says he was bisexual.
The whole time?
Yeah.
He said what his issue is.
That's what I'm saying, though.
But that's not what you're saying.
No, what I'm saying is that it was always hidden.
Okay, but this guy that never had any sexual encounters.
He hid it.
Yeah, that's why I would think that what Bobby's saying is probably true, too.
He probably had it in the back of his head.
Yeah, yeah.
Because of socialization, right? He saying is probably true too. Like he probably had it in the back of his head. Yeah, yeah. And because of socialization, right?
He just refuses to address it.
And I agree that the pill did something to open his mind up maybe.
You know what I mean?
But I feel like that instinct is there.
Yeah, you don't go for it.
Okay, that is a possibility.
But why would you want to decide one way or another without being that guy?
Why would you even make a judgment call?
Like, how the fuck could you know what caused this guy to do gay sex?
And once you go into his past and interview him and, you know, find out, like, have you ever been attracted to guys?
Did you ever have a wrestling match where you got a boner?
Yeah, yeah.
Unless you don't.
I mean, why even?
I mean, it is possible.
If attraction and all these different things are really neurochemical reactions that we have inside of our mind or inside of our brain.
If we figure out a way to stimulate certain parts of the brain with – look, I mean think about what we can do as far as like antidepressants and all sorts of things that affect mood and neurochemistry.
What if they can give you something that makes you attracted to the opposite sex?
What if they can give you something that you're gay and all of a sudden you like girls?
Or give you something where you're heterosexual?
They were trying to do that in Iraq.
They were trying to come out with a bomb.
The CIA was.
They actually put research and development into this,
a gay bomb, a bomb that they would detonate
and it would be some sort of a chemical agent
that would go into the air
and it would make all these soldiers
become rabidly attracted to each other
and they would lose morale.
They would just start fucking.
But I even think I'm the strongest of ecstasy.
I never wanted to suck a dick.
That's not ecstasy.
We're not talking about it.
It doesn't seem like any drug would switch that.
Ecstasy has a very specific affection reaction,
but it doesn't make you sexually attracted to someone.
It is possible that there could be something
as strong as what ecstasy does for you
in terms of affection and sensitivity
and feeling for things
and a loosening of insecurities.
It's very possible that something else could do it in another way that all of a sudden
makes you gay.
I mean,
if you talk to a gay guy,
like we have gay friends and not you and I together,
we have gay friends.
We go to the gym and go see Bobby Lee.
Hey Bobby.
Go watch musicals.
Um,
when,
you know,
when,
when you talk to them, they never feel like there's something wrong with them.
They feel pretty fucking normal.
So what is it that separates, like, I can't say his name, but the dude who's our friend, who's the piano guy from the store.
Great fucking guy.
So what is the difference between him and us?
Well, the only difference is that he's attracted to men.
Well, where is the connection in his mind?
Is it a chemical door that gets opened?
Is it a chromosome thing?
Is it a genetic thing?
What is it?
You know?
Yeah.
You know, there's a theory.
There's one thing.
But hold on.
There's a theory about homosexuality.
And one of the more interesting theories was they did a study in Rome.
And what they found is that when women are promiscuous, especially like
habitually promiscuous, women that
constantly cheat on their men, they have a
disproportionate amount of gay sons.
And they believe that what it
is, is a variation of the
X chromosome. You know, women have
double X chromosome, men have XY.
And they believe that there is a variation of the
X chromosome among certain women that makes them
incredibly attracted to men to the point where literally they can't even fucking control themselves.
Like their number one obsession is getting new dick.
They just want to get new dick all the time.
And this gets transferred into their sons.
And their son all of a sudden has this incredible attraction to men.
Wow.
Totally makes sense.
Yeah.
Because haven't you met girls like that?
No.
You never met a girl that's just a fucking freak?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've all met girls that just seemingly this poor girl's broken and she just can't help fucking everybody.
Yeah.
You know?
But the only way to truly find out if this is true is for me to take that pill and I'm not going to do it.
It doesn't exist.
But, I mean, this drug exists.
No, this drug.
By the way.
This one.
But here's the thing.
It's one guy, okay?
Yeah, yeah. How many people took it and it just cured their Parkinson's? You But here's the thing. It's one guy, okay? Yeah, yeah.
How many people took it and it just cured their Parkinson's?
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I'm saying, though, Joe.
No, no, no.
But that doesn't mean anything.
I'm sorry.
This guy is gay.
No, no, no.
Listen, it doesn't mean anything.
Because look, how many people are addicted to peanut butter?
I'm not.
I just had peanut butter and I'm fine.
Yeah, yeah.
But if you give peanut butter to a guy who's addicted to peanut butter, he fucking dies.
His throat closes up.
He can't get any air in.
There's a biological variation in human beings.
Yeah.
And you have to take that into account
what if
for this guy's
for whatever
weird tweak
he takes this
fucking drug
and goes on a
gay sex rampage
you might be
totally right
he might be a freak
and he might be
just a loser
he lost all his money
and that's why
he's suing this company
okay how about this
how about this
can I say this
how about this
that's where my money is
I take the pill
let's say I'm that guy
I take the pill
I go on a gay sex get on the pill I go on a gay sex rampage, right?
How about me just not taking it ever again?
Well, it wasn't just that.
I'm not taking the pill again.
This guy also lost all his money.
Yeah, on gambling.
I think that's, he hit his bottom.
Don't take the pill anymore.
Right.
Well, you're a 12-step guy, so you understand about all that shit where people are in denial
about that shit.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's a weird thing when you're around people that are in denial about what caused their issues, right?
Yeah, and there's also, I know that doing drugs and that kind of behavior isn't the root of the problem.
The root of the problem is something else.
Those are just symptoms.
Right, but if a guy is or has been shown to be a fine, upstanding human being, I mean, I don't know this guy's history.
That's the problem with having this stupid argument, or this
conversation, rather. When you lose that much
money in gambling, immediately that's a red flag
to me, like, okay, this guy's probably lying. But it wasn't
until after he became,
got on the medication, they started gambling. Apparently
he didn't gamble before that. Yeah. Gamblers
are often, you know,
they tell the truth. I don't have
a problem with gambling, but I easily could have.
I was terrified of it when I used to play pool,
and I used to be around a lot of gambling addicts.
I was around a lot of them, guys who were...
And I see them, and I would say, this is scary shit.
Whatever you do...
Obviously, gambling is fun,
and it becomes too much of an addiction to these people.
Whatever it is, don't do whatever the fuck they're doing.
Can I tell you what happened with gambling?
I was in the Fort Lauderdale Improv,
and I put $5 in the machine, okay?
And I pressed the book.
It was a Nichols machine.
It was a Hard Rock casino.
Yeah, Hard Rock, right?
And all of a sudden, the thing just went crazy.
Like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
You know what I mean?
Just crazy.
I don't even know what happened.
I got a combination of something, right?
Then all of a sudden, like, people are surrounding me.
Right.
Like, people are in the back of me.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Who are these people?
Just other people watching.
I hit a jackpot
So you're worried
Someone's gonna jack your jackpot
No I'm just sitting there going
Oh and I got someone
Turning around
Like oh yeah
This is great right
And then the lady comes
Cause it says
And then I press
You know cause you get a ticket
Right
They go you can't get a ticket
Because you know
It's so much money
That they're gonna have to
Just give it to you right
Nice
The lady comes up to me
And she goes congratulations
I go thank you
And they go So can I just see your ID I give her the idea and she goes i can't give you the
money i go why it's because your license is two months expired which is it is so i go no i want
my fucking money we can't give it to you i went to the top indian chief like a council member and
i argued with them.
Two hours later,
I'm in an office.
I go,
I played the improv here.
I was packed every room.
They come here to gamble, right?
Mine's two months expired.
You can't give me a fucking,
not that I need the money.
How much money was it?
It was only $2,000.
Okay?
But the idea that I won a jackpot
and they won't give me the money.
That seems like it's against the law
No it's an IRS thing
You need a valid private license
Could you have just said hold my money
I'll go get my license renew and be back tomorrow
No I live in LA dude
Yeah it costs you $2000
But wouldn't casinos hold your shit
No I gave them my number
I go work it out with their counsel
They have to go back
And they never called me
I couldn't get my money.
And I was so fucking mad.
I'm still upset about it now, kind of.
Well, they had an opportunity to fuck you and they took it.
That's what it is.
Wow.
Yeah, but that's so fucked up.
It is fucked up.
That does not seem legal.
Casinos aren't in the paying out business.
They're in the you gambling and losing business.
I know, but here's the point, though.
I go there every year.
They know me.
Like, I go to the desk.
Everyone loves me. Bobby's back you know i mean like i i know that people come to gamble at the casino right after
my shows right i feel like i've provided a service for this fucking they can't fucking
you know i mean one little clause well look through it well now you understand the true
nature of your relationship with them they don't give a fuck about you
That's the nature
Of the relationship by the way
With fucking virtually
Every casino and player
You know
The bottom line is
The player is a mark
You know
And that's what it is
And the mark
It's just like
You know
You let him win a little bit
You let him get a little bit
Make him feel like
He's got something going on
You cop him a room
Hey you want a nice meal
Listen even though We lost some money, we had a nice
meal. We went to see a show.
They comped us. We went to see the fucking Lion King.
And that's what happens, man.
But the bottom line is, go to these
gigantic places like the Venetian or the
Bellagio, these fucking huge fountains
and shit. Who's paying for that?
Who's paying for that?
You're paying for that by losing.
But what I'm saying is that if I would have won
a bigger jackpot, like $2 million,'m saying is that if I would have won A bigger jackpot like two million dollars
I don't know what I would have done
I would have physically
Assaulted an American Indian
I would litter for the rest of my life
Make them cry
I would have freaked out about that
I would still be fighting that whole thing
I lived through it
What you should start doing
Is doing a bit about it
On stage
Yeah well yeah yeah
That's a bit
There's a funny bit in there
There's something in there
Come on man
There's a funny bit in that
You know
Because
But I'm so angry
They can take your fucking money
They had no problem
With you gambling
Yeah yeah
So you're risking your money
But you can't get a return
You know what you should have done
You should have got
Wait did they print out
A two thousand dollar ticket Or did No you know Because here's what it is Okay If you. You know what you should have done? You should have got, wait, did it print out a $2,000 ticket?
No,
you know,
because here's what it is,
okay?
If you win,
you know,
at a slot machine,
now you get a ticket,
right?
Anything other,
over $1,200
that you win
is considered a jackpot.
Okay,
so then they have to come out.
So then they have to fill out
IRS forms and this and that.
If I just would have made
less than $800 less,
then I would have been able to take my money.
You know what I mean?
Jesus Christ.
And then, you know what I would have,
I mean, I would have had a good time.
I would have spent it at the casino anyway.
They would have had it in the end.
Right.
You know, then I would have gone to a higher machine.
You know what I mean?
You know, I just wanted a good time.
Or put it back in the community.
Yeah, something like that.
I always want to say it like that.
Yeah.
The community. It's fucked up. What is it about black people that they say it like that The community
It's fucked up
What is it about black people
That they say community like that
They say a lot of things
Way, way, way like that
Yeah, but that's a big one
Community
Community
Put it back in the community
Yeah, they say that, yeah
So
What happened?
So there's no way
You can get this money back
This is gone
You're writing it off as a loss
You got to do a bit about this bro
Yeah I will
But the thing is
Is that
I called Joel
How could he help you?
Well he owns the improv
Right
He has a relationship
With the hard rock
And what did they say?
Joe said
There's nothing I can do
You know what I mean?
And I'm like
But it just
It doesn't make any sense
Because they know me
It doesn't matter
They don't give a fuck about you
Now at least you know
What the deal is
Oh I know what the deal is now.
Well, you know, it's also probably a rule that they can't circumvent.
I mean, who you're talking to is probably a guy who's going by corporate bylines, and this is the rules.
The person doesn't have a driver's license.
I mean, even though they know you, they have to kind of assume.
Like, who the fuck, you know, if you can't write down a valid driver's license in the receipt so that you can get taxed on it.
It just seems like they should be able to hold it for you.
Like, it seems like, yeah, you won.
You have credit, $2,000 credit.
You come back here with your license.
We'll give you the fucking money.
But until then, we're holding it for you.
It seems like that's what casinos do anyways
because you go there, you're Jay-Z and stuff like that.
You have almost a bank account with these people.
You're Jay-Z.
Do you know what I did?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Do you know what I did?
I bet you can get your $2,000.
No, I Googled my name.
You Googled your name?
In front of them.
Like an asshole.
Oh, did you really?
Yeah, I go, listen, I play this place.
I'm a headliner, right?
You Googled your name in front of them.
Yeah, and there was a computer there.
Look at the computer.
And I Googled, right?
And it went to my Wikipedia page.
Right.
I went to my Wikipedia.
I go, here's my picture.
Here's my birthday. You know what I mean? I'm almost 40. Right. I went to my Wikipedia. I go, here's my picture. Here's my birthday.
You know what I mean?
I'm almost 40.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Because I had no idea.
I don't know what else to do.
Right.
What did they say?
We don't give a shit.
They didn't care?
No.
Sounds like a scam to me.
And who's telling you this?
Who's the person saying they don't care?
Some American Indian with beads in his hair.
You know what I mean?
And he was upset at you?
No.
He was just basically just really cool about it.
And just like, I know who you are.
I'm so sorry.
These are the rules.
Well, I guess those are the rules.
Here's the rules now.
You got to write a bit about it.
Yeah, I'm going to.
You have to.
I'm going to.
It's a $2,000 bit.
That makes me so fucking mad.
That makes me mad.
I don't need the money.
It's just the principle of it.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know what I mean?
I did it.
Yeah, but it does make sense
I mean, it does make sense
That they can't hook you up
To me
Doesn't it?
Not to me
No, it doesn't make sense
Because Joe
I basically work for that casino
Sort of
You work for Joel
I work for Joel
But he has a relationship with them
And it's not like I don't
Play there every week
You know what I mean?
He just sort of rents there, right?
He does rent a room He rents the rooms there but you you understand what i'm saying
it's like in a sense i give them business right you know i mean do you like going on the road do
you dig it in some places yes some of them are like i want to kill myself for a long time you
didn't go on i refuse to do it yeah because remember when we were back in uh when i was
doing the store we would talk about it all the time you weren't't going on the road back then. I refused to do it.
And then we were somewhere recently, like I think it was San Jose, and they would say, yeah, Bobby Lee was just here, packed the place.
Yeah, yeah.
I was like, damn, Bobby Lee's on the road now.
That's the only reason now I go, because when I used to go on the road before, no one would come.
What changed that?
I don't know.
It was, well, here's what it was.
I would go to a market.
Now what my thing is, is I go to a market first.
And at first, they don't really know me.
Or if they do, they don't know that I do stand-up, right?
Right.
So I do a weekend pretty much for free.
They give you a guarantee, right?
Right.
And then the second time back, it's always better because I know that I deliver.
Right.
You know what I mean?
That my show is good.
You know what I mean?
And so the people that saw you, they come see you again.
They bring more people than the radio.
I love radio.
When will you come back?
Like if you say you do a gig, how long before you come back?
A year.
A year.
Yeah, yeah.
And how much of your material will be new in that year?
Maybe, and I'll be honest with you, not as much as maybe the next guy, but about 10, 15 minutes.
10, 15 minutes will be new in a year?
Really?
Yeah, because I'm not that prolific.
Really?
But the thing is, here's the thing is that a lot of my stuff now is improvised.
Like I have moments
of just playing
with the audience.
Yeah, a lot of that, right?
And also my thing is
there's an element
of crazy in my show
where I usually go
in the audience
and I do crazy shit.
Like what?
Like, you know,
like if somebody will get up
to go to the bathroom,
I'll chase them out of the room
and follow them
to the bathroom.
Really?
Yeah.
And then I'll, yeah.
While the audience is,
they love it.
You know what I mean? And I'll pull my pants down and I'll be in my underwear and I'll follow them to the bathroom. Really? Yeah. While the audience is, they love it. You know what I mean?
And I'll pull my pants down
and I'll be in my underwear
and I'll follow them
into the bathroom.
Have you ever gotten in trouble
for pulling your pants down?
Yeah, I did this one thing
where I wanted to give a guy
a lap dance.
So he came on stage
and the music was playing
and I got...
Were you on Parkinson's medication?
No, no, no.
And I got naked
and I had a sack come out
and you can tell that this guy was extremely homophobic.
Really?
Right?
So the music's playing and I jump on top of him.
Oh, Jesus.
By the way, sitting on the stool.
And he literally picked my body and threw me to the ground.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
And I hit the ground on my back.
Right.
And I got knock unconscious for like a split second.
You know, you hear little like little stars Did you hit your head?
No, but I heard
So what hit that made you see stars like that?
I hit my back and my head, maybe a little bit
Maybe your head a little?
Yeah, but I also took the wind out of my body
Right, you got jacked
Yeah, I got jacked and I jumped on top of him again
You jumped on him again?
Yeah, because nothing
He just took it
Because the thing got a laugh
When he threw me off of me
It got a laugh
It got a laugh
So he enjoyed it
And I stood back out
And I looked in his eyes
Right
And he kind of went
He kind of liked the laugh
Right right right
So I did it again
Right
Because he got addicted to the laugh
Right
Because at first it was hatred
Right
Like get off me gook
You know kind of thing
Whoa
That's what he said
You know what I mean
That's what he said But in the eyes I could tell That there was a thing Get off me gook You know kind of thing Whoa That's what he said You know what I mean That's what he said
But in the eyes
I can tell that
Get off me gook
So then when I fell down
We connected
I'm like okay
I can do it again
Wow
Like a sense
Right
A sense
That's the worst thing
That's a weird thing right
When you're ad-libbing with someone
You don't know exactly
Where this is gonna go
That's exciting
You know
It's fun right
Yeah yeah
It's exciting
Well it's also too
You and I both came up
In the store
And the store I mean we've talked about this so many times in the podcast the store for all its
terrible qualities the best thing about it is the fact that no one was paying attention
ever there's no crowd control there's no one that's great the comics are forced to take care
of audiences themselves and sometimes you just deal with incredibly hostile audiences yeah yeah
there's i've never worked At a club Consistently
Where there's more
Insane shit happening
And people say
Like I hear other comics go
Yeah this room is tough
I go
You don't know nothing
You don't even know
What you're talking about
Yeah yeah
Yeah they don't even know
If they have worked
At the store
Like there's so many people
That go yeah
That place is evil
I don't do this store
The store is evil
It is
Yes it is
But guess what
I wouldn't even say evil
There's some
There's a quality of evil to it.
I think that quality is because of the fact that it's C-Row's nightclub.
The fact that it was Bugsy Siegel's place.
You can't get past the fact that people were murdered in that place.
Yeah, but it also has to do with the color of the building.
I really believe.
You know how they say you can't paint your walls in your bedroom blood red because psychologically it's not good for you.
Do you know that?
It makes you angry. It makes you angry.
It makes you angry.
Like silver, too.
I try to paint my room silver once,
and they go, it's not,
because you'll feel like you're trapped in it.
You know what I mean?
Spaceship.
I feel like black, you know, like in a cage.
Black, I don't know what it does.
I was thinking of painting these walls black.
No, don't.
Do you think it'd be okay for a podcast?
I would never paint the walls black.
See, this is the color of what walls,
but these are neutral colors.
Yeah.
These are nice.
It's relaxing. It's calming. I feel very good right now. Do you feel good? Yeah, I feel like this is the color of... is, but these are neutral colors. Yeah. These are nice. It's relaxing.
It's calming.
I feel very good right now.
Do you feel good?
Yeah, I feel like this
is the color of...
I'm going to leave it here
just for you, bro.
Like coffee.
It took so long
to get you on the podcast.
I'm going to leave these things.
And the reason why
that was the case, right?
Oh, no, no, no.
I know.
It was because
there was things going on.
Right.
Dude, it's just...
I'm as flaky as the next guy.
But the store...
Why don't you come back?
Come back where?
The store.
Oh, never.
Never.
I can't. Why? Because I like the improv better. And there store, why don't you come back? Come back where? The store. Oh, never, never. I can't.
Why?
Because I like the improv better
and there's no negativity there.
The improv,
everyone's super courteous.
The staff there
are so friendly
and thankful
and kind.
For years,
you dealt with it at the store,
them pretending
that the store was the star
and you were lucky
to work there.
You were lucky to help out.
No matter what you did,
you could never do enough.
There was an energy
when you were there.
I bring it everywhere else.
I know, but I'm saying that I'm
because I used to either go up before
or after you in the studio. It was hard to go
up after you, but sometimes they would put me up after you.
But there was still an energy in the OR,
I swear to God, that's different than it is now.
Not that we don't get an audience,
but it's a different kind of vibe.
I was bringing my specific thoughts on comedy, my specific thoughts on life.
Let's have fun.
Let's not take things so fucking seriously.
Let's look at all this shit, but let's be nice to each other and let's have a good fucking time.
That's one of the reasons why whenever anything crazy would happen at the store, I would always make it a big point to buy everyone in the audience a drink.
Remember when I
Kicked somebody out
Yeah yeah yeah
I did that
Like a dozen times
Yeah yeah yeah
I would kick people out
And then I would spend
Thousands of dollars
Buying 300 people drinks
You know
Yeah yeah yeah
But that's
Why did you
Leave in the first place
Because it's not
It's not Mitzi Schur's club anymore
See the whole thing
That happened was
When the Mencia shit went down
I called Mitzi Who's the owner of the club and mitzi and i've had a relationship way
back to 1994 when i first met her when i first came to hollywood and to me she was the you know
the queen of comedy man it's the comedy store was mecca to me to me it was more important and this
is not bullshit to get passed as a paid regular at the store than it was the fact that i was on a
sitcom in in california yeah i was on a sitcom and I was like, acting sucks.
You know, it's a lot of money.
I was making all this money, but I'm like, I'm a fucking paid regular at the store.
Like, holy shit.
I couldn't believe I was there.
I mean, this is where Richard Pryor had started out and David Letterman was there and Kennison
was there and all these hicks had worked there for a while.
So to me, it was like all this history.
So I mean, not only had I worked there for free For all those years where I was on
Fear Factor
They put my name up on the marquee
It would say Fear Factor's Joe Rogan
Packed the place
We would promote it on MySpace
And to me it was just
It was a workout room
I would get to fuck around and stay sharp
Do a long set each Friday and Saturday night
So when I would go on the road
I always had material
I could still do specials
And still do Fear Factor at the same time so it was a perfect
situation for me and I could
help the store I worked for free and as a matter
of fact even money that they owed me from years ago
I paid it back in the form of a tax free
donation and then I paid
for the whole sound system in the place
I took out the speakers I put in
a CDR burner and a fucking
DAT player and new microphones
and new cords.
The whole deal, right?
And then when this whole thing happened with Mencia, which they knew for the longest time what he was doing.
Everybody knew what he was doing.
But they were making money off of it, so they turned a blind eye towards comedy.
And what I've always said was that if you're in the business, if you're an agent or if you're a manager or if you're a club owner, you're selling art.
That's what you're a manager or if you're a club owner, you're selling art. That's what you're doing.
Yeah.
And when you got one person who's stealing the art
of the people that you're selling
and then selling it again.
Yeah.
That's what he's doing.
It's like he's cannibalizing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You have to put a foot down and stop that.
Yeah.
And if you don't, if you say crazy shit like,
well, you know, it's business
and he's making a lot of money.
Well, then you clearly are not on the side of the art form
that you actually make your living selling.
Right. So when all this shit went down, I calledzi up and i to let her know that you know brian made this crazy fucking video and it's about to go out and it's it's ugly and i told her
i go the guy's a problem we've had problems with him for years and we're gonna put this video out
she goes okay well just keep away from them just don't don't get crazy i go man see i'm never gonna
hurt him i go i'm not gonna do anything okay, do you want to go up tonight?
I go, yeah
She goes, what time?
I go, whenever you want to put me up
She goes, okay, 10 o'clock
All right, thank you, Mitzi, I love you
I love you too
That was the last word I ever spoke to her, okay?
I get off the phone with her
Tommy calls me an hour later and tells me I'm banned
Why?
So I go, what are you talking about?
I go, I just talked to Mitzi
And this stuttering cocksucker.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
Mitzi's confused.
Mitzi doesn't know the facts.
So to me, it was very clear that there was like some situation where Mitzi was no longer
making the decisions.
It was no longer her club.
So there was some other people, whoever the fuck they are.
Tommy was at the mouthpiece
Of whoever the fuck was making the decision
And clearly they had made a decision
To go and have Mencia headline that weekend
And make a big deal out of it
And he was on the radio
It was like for him to try to save face
And then have me banned
And so I said I'm never coming back
I'll tell you this right now
This is it
I'm never coming back
And so that was years ago
And I've never come back
But it was the best thing for me
because after I left there
and then I started working out
at the improv,
I'm like,
God,
it's so friendly here.
The vibe is so much better.
Everyone's happy there.
The managers are happy.
The comics are all,
it's like there's a cool bar area
where everybody hangs out.
And then I started doing sows
and more recently
and just,
you know what,
man,
I just realized
that there's comedy clubs out there
that appreciate comics.
Yeah.
And that's,
those are the only people
that you should hang out with.
I'm thankful for my time
at the store.
I learned a lot there.
I learned a lot about,
you know,
hecklers and dealing bullshit
and I learned a lot about,
I just learned a lot
about the business
from this whole thing
that happened.
Yeah.
From getting fucked over.
Yeah.
So for me,
it was the best thing.
Well, let me tell you something.
It's Tommy didn't go to anybody, by the way. You think it was all him? Yeah. Yeah. I mean me, it was, it was the best thing. Well, let me tell you something. Tommy didn't go to anybody,
by the way.
I think it was all him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
I mean,
Tommy and I,
whatever.
I mean,
I,
I'm a regular there.
I get spots anytime I want to.
And Tommy's a friend.
I've never called them off the job.
I call him for spots.
You know what I mean?
But I know that he makes decisions.
I'm sure he does,
but not that one.
I don't believe that.
You know, I don't, I don't believe that. You know,
I don't believe that he...
Or this happened.
He went to Mitzi and he...
He didn't go to Mitzi.
He didn't talk to her at all.
I know for a fact.
Because when he talked
to somebody else,
whoever the fuck it was,
whether it's Paulie or Peter
or whoever the fuck is right...
Maybe Peter.
Whoever the fuck it is.
It might have been Peter.
I don't know who it is.
I have no idea.
I don't know.
I didn't ask.
I didn't care.
And then ever since then,
have they called you?
No.
Oh, he sent me one ridiculous letter.
I saved it.
It's hilarious.
The most one-sided fucking letter ever talking about, you know, don't destroy the store,
build it up.
And like, you cunts.
I worked there for free for fucking years.
And then they would always say like, everybody works for free.
Not that.
Everybody doesn't do what I did.
Everybody doesn't put their name in the marquee and pump it up on MySpace.
Let me tell you.
La Jolla.
I'm going to tell you about La Jolla.
You know I started in that room, right?
I go there six years ago.
I haven't played there in six years.
Right.
Okay?
Six years ago, I call them, the La Jolla.
I go, can I go up?
Because I'm going to go down and visit a friend.
Right.
They're like, yeah, sure.
So I drive down there.
I show up at the club and the manager goes, you can't go up.
In La Jolla.
And I go, why?
He goes, well, it's an all-girls show.
And they're from LA.
And they don't want to put you up.
I go, who is it?
They go, Lisa Sunstead.
People I've never even heard of.
Right.
Right?
So I just drove down here.
They said I could go up.
I'm from this club.
I fucking built that stage, literally.
Me and Freddy Soto, when they gutted the plays.
You hammered and nailed it.
Yeah, we hammered and nailed and shit like that.
So fuck you.
I'm going up.
You're not going up. I go, I'll go up last. Right. No. I go, I'm up. I hammered and nailed it. Yeah, we hammered and nailed and shit like that. So fuck you. I'm going up. You're not going up.
I'll go up last.
No.
I go, I'm up.
I'll never play her again.
Good for you.
He goes, fine.
I haven't played it since.
Wow.
You know, man,
that's a totally different situation
and I totally see your side of it.
I totally do.
And the girls,
if they really wanted to do their show
and then have you go on last,
have you go on afterwards?
That's what I ask.
I go, oh, wait.
I don't give a fuck.
You know what I mean?
Some people don't like that, though.
They think that you're going to show them up.
Show them up.
There was 40 people there, Joe.
It doesn't matter.
If it was sold out, you know what I mean?
It doesn't matter to them.
Those 40 people are there to see them.
And if they do mediocre, they know you're going to crush.
And you go on after them.
Let me tell you something, dude. It's like I'm from that room right right and i started when were fred
burns sure yeah back when fred was running it what's did fred die he died what happened um
you know he you know he had spinal bifida yeah and his parents were still alive and they took
him on a cruise like a cruise to go to the Bahamas.
I don't know where they went, right?
And they told Fred one night,
they go,
Fred,
we'll meet you down here at eight
for breakfast.
And Fred Burns goes,
all right, you know.
And he never showed up to breakfast
and they opened up his room
and he was dead.
Wow.
Just failure.
Yeah, failure.
Heart failure, body failure,
whatever it was.
It was awful. He was an interesting guy. He got fired, right, for something. Yeah, failure. Heart failure, body failure, whatever it was. It was awful.
He was an interesting guy.
He got fired, right, for something.
No, nothing.
Nothing?
But the family's crazy, man.
I mean, look, I got no ill feelings for the store.
I think it's one of the most interesting clubs in the country.
And I think I learned a lot doing stand-up there.
But the whole point of the whole situation, the whole point of the whole Mencia altercation was supposedly to create a better environment to stop someone who was victimizing other comedians.
And when the club supports that, you can't support the club anymore.
If the club supports that, it wasn't a gray area.
Everybody knew what was going on.
Everybody complained for years and years.
So that decision, the decision they made was like the worst possible decision.
So there's no way I could go back there.
Yeah.
I mean, it just sucks the fact that like, you know, like Bill Burr will show up and
if Mencia is there, he won't go up.
Yeah.
I mean, those little things, you know what I mean?
That could fuck up.
I, you know, I love the store.
You know, it's like home.
You could go up right in front of Mencia now.
It doesn't matter now.
He's toothless.
Now he's just, he's got no claws.
It's all over.
Did you see the I Am comic, what he said in that movie?
No.
You've got to see that.
That will open your mind or open your eyes.
It's pumped up.
Listen, I just did a benefit with him a month ago.
You know what I mean?
For the police force.
Right.
You know what I mean?
And all the longest I've known Carlos, he's never did drugs or drank. That was a big thing. I don't need it. You know what I mean? And, you know, all the longest I've known Carlos,
he's never did drugs or drank.
That was a big thing.
I don't need it.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Natural high.
Right.
And now it's like,
you know, he's smoking pot.
You know what I mean?
That'll probably help him.
Yeah, I think it'll help him.
Maybe.
But he's also drinking.
He's also drinking.
Yeah, he's also drinking.
He's just,
I can just tell he's sad.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Well, it's karma man
You can't victimize people
And as a friend you watch it
I always try to play Call of Duty with him on Xbox
Because I feel bad
I always send him a friend
You feel bad so you want to kill him?
Yeah
Listen man
The positive aspects of working at the store were so true.
I mean, I know what you say.
I just think you should just do it one night or something.
No, I can't do it.
Please.
It'll never be the same again.
How do you know?
Because it'll never be what it used to be.
What it used to be was a lot of fun.
It used to be we, look, there was a long time where I was at the store where the store felt like it did not have the environment that I envisioned.
I always envisioned it being, like I said, comedy mecca.
I always envisioned there was all these great comics are going to perform there and it's this great
environment and then for a long time when i was there in like the early 90s you know it wasn't
like that it was shit i say i'm gonna tell you defend it in a sense okay since you left it has
changed okay in this sense okay we're getting a lot more new york guys on the list right all right
so you have bill burr dav Davidoff, all these New York
guys that have moved here.
Sarah Silverman was there.
The lineups, like the other night, who was it?
Rock and Chappelle, did they go up? But they showed up.
It's a different New York
vibe. And what I'm saying is this,
from two years ago that you were there,
Carlos never goes there. It's not Carlos,
man. It's the people who run the club.
Whoever's running the club
Is the same people running the club
I know
Tommy said some stupid shit to Brian
Just the other day when he went there
And he called me a fag
Tommy's retarded
He's a ding dong
I know I know
That dude was always gonna be what he is
You know
I know
It's not
What a comedy store is
Is an idea
Okay
The idea is
That there's this Mecca of comedy where everybody's hanging out.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Be like that back porch area.
Yeah.
The back parking lot.
How much fucking fun did we have back there?
So much craziness and hilarity.
The greatest moments of my life have been back there.
Hilarious moments.
Yeah, yeah.
Just always, everybody was doing something funny.
Joey Diaz has got his fucking pants down.
Yeah, it was crazy.
There's always something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just chaos. And then there's always crazy people coming back there and his fucking pants down. Yeah, it was crazy. There's always something. It's just chaos.
And then there's always crazy people coming back there and hanging out with us.
And you don't even know who the fuck they are.
And who's this guy?
This guy's nuts.
And he thinks he's an angel.
And this chick's a hooker.
Yeah, the guy dressed up as Jesus that hangs out there.
A guy named Jesus.
Yeah, the guy with the cross that walks down Sunset with his fucking cross.
And there was a guy that looked like Colonel Sanders.
Have you seen that guy?
Yeah, that guy.
He dresses like Colonel Sanders.
Yeah.
And Jesus and him together
Are always the best combo
And they're getting
An argument
You're like
What are they fighting about
The Lord of Chicken
Who's crazier
Yeah yeah yeah
That place is awesome
You know
But the idea
Of what the comedy store is
You bring that everywhere
With you man
I bring that everywhere
On the road
I bring that everywhere
Where I do stand up
Sal's is a perfect example
What is Sal's
Sal's Comedy Hole
Is this new place
That opened up on Melrose
It's a guy from New York.
He had a place on La Brea for a while, but they had a liquor license issue, and now he
reopened a new place.
Fucking guy is great.
He's got open mics almost every night.
Every night.
Super supportive of comedians.
Just wants people to come down.
He's always trying to feed you, give you drinks, and he's super consistently nice.
Oh, really?
He's perfect.
Just a nice guy who loves comedy, and he's running.
He's trying to make a good comedy club. Okay. And because of that, comics are flocking to this place. drinks and he's super consistently nice oh really nice guy who loves comedy and he's running he's
trying to make a good comedy club okay and because of that comics are flocking to this place diaz
does it all the time ari does it brian does it all the time tonight his show will have at least
50 60 comics wanting to go up at their eight o'clock show tonight really do i have to showcase
to become a regular you don't have to do anything and he'll just hook you up man you go up and he'll
give you a door deal you can pack the place yeah it's super sweet that's what i like to need a new
room maybe yeah when you go to the improv and you go to places like south you realize okay well
there's places that don't have this crazy attitude that the the place is the star you know like tommy
always had this attitude that the store is the star and so did,
remember,
who's the guy who fucking,
who used to run it,
Scott Day.
You remember Scott Day?
I love Scott Day, yeah.
Yeah, and Duncan was the,
people don't realize this,
Duncan Trussell,
our boy,
was the talent manager
for the store
for the longest time
and he had to quit
because he didn't want
to be on
Pauly Shore's reality show.
Yeah, yeah,
I remember that.
They wanted to put him
on the reality show
and I remember that.
I was so fucking,
I was like,
I'd rather be broke.
What the improv
doesn't have though that the store has is that wild west yeah you're right
you know what i mean and that create no because it's like you can't go over the light you know
what i mean there's rules and this and that so you can't run across the place in my underwear if i
want to right you know what i mean right but at the store there's always still that vibe of like
anything can happen you know right so you miss that, yes, I do miss that. But that's everywhere that Joey Diaz is.
When you bring Joey Diaz,
that vibe comes with us on the road.
So what I'm doing this weekend, by the way,
Mandalay Bay Theater, it's almost sold out.
So if you're going to get tickets,
jump on that shit now.
There's not that much left.
I'm talking about Houston.
It's Friday, we will, totally.
It's Friday night, February 4th,
which is the night before the UFC
And it's at Mandalay Bay
Which is where the UFC is
So it's going to be fucking crazy
If you want tickets you've got to jump on it now
And it's Joey Diaz and Ari Shaffir
So it's the full Death Squad roster
And Bobby Lee is going to be at the Houston Improv
That weekend too
The same weekend
February 4th and 5th and 6th
Sunday too
Is it this weekend
This weekend coming up
No the next weekend after that
Oh next weekend
So what is that 11th
Something like that yeah
7th
Let's find out exactly
So people don't get crazy
Yeah
We don't want to
I came to see your show
And you were not there Bobby Lee
You were my favorite
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The 11th, 12th, and 13th
Bobby Lee's. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday?
And Valentine's, which is Monday. Oh, bam!
You're doing Valentine's Day in Houston, which by the way
I love Houston. I'm coming back. I fucking
swear to God. I know I haven't been there in forever.
We're trying to work out a deal.
The problem was I don't
want to do any shows where people have to stand up.
And I was doing the House of Blues.
And the House of Blues, they wanted, I think it's like 600 people standing and 600 people seated.
No, you don't do that.
And I'm like, that's crazy.
I did that in Vegas.
I've done it in Vegas a bunch of times.
And the problem, it becomes the bar just becomes filled with people talking.
There's way too many people there.
And everyone's drunk.
And no one knows how to fucking whisper, and it becomes chaos.
And so I went to see one of Doug Stanhope's shows where I had to stand,
and I was like, no more standing.
Because I watched as an audience member.
I'm like, this isn't fun.
It hurts your feet.
You have to wear your back so you can't get up and shit.
So I had a bunch of deals where I was supposed to do the Houston area,
but every time we ran into this fucking standing roadblock.
At theaters we ran into it. So I'm just going to go to the comedy club.
So the improv, we're
working it out. We're going to figure that shit out.
Anyway, one more time.
Friday night, February 4th,
Mandalay Bay Theater, me, Joey Diaz,
and Ari Shafir. The next weekend,
the 11th, 12th, and the 13th,
and Valentine's Day, Bobby Lee
will be at the... The Houston Improv is a very nice club, too. I haven't been there. It's 13th, and Valentine's Day, Bobby Lee will be at the Houston Improv.
It's a very nice club, too.
It's brand new now.
It's sweet, right?
Yeah, they just redid it.
Yeah, they redid it, yeah.
Shakalaka, motherfucker.
So that's the deal.
And then the weekend after that, I'm at the Brea Improv.
That's the 18th, 19th, and 20th.
And we're going to get Brian really high and make him go on stage every night so big that he forgets his material.
That's one of my favorite new things to do you're gonna trial by fire son you did good this weekend he did real good this weekend seven minutes you probably fucking killed for four you
got a solid four minutes of bits in there you're doing all right kid you're fucking out there
hustling no he just goes up does a guest spot throws he's fucking getting tossed to the lions
so that's the uh 18th 19th and 20 20th is the Brea Improv of February.
And then the weekend after that, I'm in.
You can go to JoeRogan.net and read all this shit yourself, bitches.
This Thursday, I'm trying to get Ari and Joey.
I'm not sure if I can.
If not, maybe Brian Callen or someone else.
But there will definitely be a show on Thursday.
We're figuring out who the fuck is going to do it.
But Friday night is the show, so it would be nice. And then Thursday night, Ari has a show on thursday we're figuring out who the fuck's gonna do it um but friday night is the show so it'd be nice we can and then thursday night
ari has a show that i'm gonna be on as well at the improv that's his storyteller show yeah so
that's it it's a great show bobby lee thank you very much so much podcast you're the fucking shit
you've been my friend for many many years and i love you it's totally fine happy you're here
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