The Joe Rogan Experience - #77 - Eddie Ifft

Episode Date: February 3, 2011

Joe sits down with Eddie Ifft.

The Joe Rogan Experience. He's a hilarious stand-up comedian and a good pal of mine. And we are sponsored by The Fleshlight. Before we go any further, go to JoeRogan.net, click the link, and type in the name Rogan, and you get 15% off. It's fucking a fabulous masturbation tool, Mr. F. I know you're not into those things. You're a wholesome gentleman. You're not that type of boy. I even go dry. You go dry?

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He quit He opened up his own company Yeah that's right Do they have any like Really really obscure Like people like Obscure porn stars I'm sure they do

I haven't looked through The catalog That you can like Yeah even though i'm a part of the company i have not looked through the catalog yeah you know like i was i was fleshlighting with roseanne bars vagina oh god i bet she would do it roseanne would probably do it i bet rosie o'donnell might do it too but there's a lot of lesbians that would do it just to with someone's out there using their vagina properly with rosies you'd have to take two fleshlights and just rub them together eddie ift is also on a podcast uh called you guys call it talking shit is that what it is talking shit with jim jeffries and jim jeffries and eddie Yift. And recently you guys got fucked because I guess you swore in your iTunes. Yeah, just our title. The title for the episode?

We had one title once that was called, I guess I'm going to have to eat this dude's cunt, was one of them. Where a guy named Brian McCarthy told us a story about how he fucked a post-op transsexual. And he was telling the story about how she told him she used to be a dude. Before he fucked her. Before he fucked her, but he said he was already, like, so into it that he was like, all right. Oh, my God. And they're having a threesome with her, and the dude's getting a blowjob, and he's like,

I'm looking at the back, and he goes, and I realize, I guess I'm going to have to eat this dude's cunt. Oh, God. And so we titled it that and so he did yeah he did oh he went down it's our episode three we still think it's our funniest what is this guy's name again brian mccarthy he actually lives right out here he's crying mccarthy is he a comic sort of he hosts all these things he's got a show on a national lamp radio he's the funniest if he came in a room with a bunch of comics,

every comic would go, that's the funniest guy in the world. Really? Fucking hilarious. Okay, what if Joey Diaz is in that room? I'm telling you... You can't tell me there's a guy alive that's funnier than Joey Diaz. Sounds like a challenge. That sounds like nonsense. Joey Diaz would find this guy really funny. Really?

He's fucking weird. There's no way to explain him. I believe you, but I don't believe he's funnier than Joey Diaz. I don't think that's possible. He's like this fat guy that he's got a wife and kids normal life, but he directs porn on the side and he wears pink polo shirts and like white bucks and he's

got like this secret life that he leads. Maybe you shouldn't be talking about it on the podcast. On our podcast he told a story about smuggling weed from Jamaica in boom boxes and getting arrested and having to go to jail for two and a half months. In Jamaica? No, when he got to America. And he went to jail and he stayed in jail for two and a half months rather than tell, call his parents to get him bailed out because he didn't want his mom to know. So he was just going to sit it out and let his mom think he was in Jamaica.

Oh, my God. He's just a fucked up funny. How old was he when this happened? Like 20 years old. Oh, my God. And he just went, I'd just rather take two and a half months in prison. Jesus Christ. So he's just wired crazy. Yeah.

Damn, that's a dude that will fucking keep a secret, though. That's a guy that I'd want working for me. Yeah. Two and a half months? Two and a half months. Two and a half months in jail instead of telling his mom? Yeah. That's a fucking soldier right there.

Yeah, we got a soldier. Brian McCarthy, huh? That's his name? And it's episode three of your podcast? Episode three. I need to hear this now. And then we have on our show, it's one of the funniest stories you'll ever hear in your life.

Really? I swear to God. He's talking about fucking the pussy and he's like, it felt like frozen gummy bears. That's the only thing I can describe. Because I think they didn't get rid of all the dick meat. They just dumped it up there. And he's like, so I'm fucking. And he goes, now if I tell you this pussy just looked like a sloppy mess, you should have seen the asshole.

But I couldn't get any friction in the pussy. Because I guess the doctor didn't do a good job. So I'm pinching the pussy down and I'm fucking the asshole. Oh, he fucked this guy in his asshole? Oh, he did everything. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Oh, he's he's a mental and he's not even gay not at all what the fuck is that about he told a story about how he let a guy blow him one time because he was out with this and he's he's not a good looking dude he was out with this like supermodel chick like really hot

like famous playboy model and they were out and they were all doing coke and partying and she goes i'll let you do anything you want to me if you let this guy suck your dick whoa and he went well he goes what do i have to lose he goes if i like it then i'm gay he's like so he goes that solves a lot of problems for me in life he's like so i let the guy do it and apparently the guy that did it's this famous writer for vanity fair and he let the guy suck his dick And apparently the guy that did it is this famous writer for Vanity Fair. And he let the guy suck his dick. And he said, as soon as I felt the growth, the stubble of his beard hit the base of my cock, he goes, I've never gone so limp in my life. And he goes, I went, I'm not gay.

Now, did he fuck the chick afterwards? He did fuck the chick afterwards. Or he said maybe he was too coked up to fuck her that night, but he got to afterwards. But so the guy went, he went limp, meaning that he was hard before the stubble hit him he yeah he well he was she got him hard or something it was a crazy fucking story this dude knows how to party no he doesn't no i do not want to party he does not know how to party that guy's an idiot she sucked a hell of a guy suck his dick that's not a guy who knows how to party that's silly he's uh i would rather not fuck that girl that girl has a lot of outrageous demands you know Had a guy suck his dick. That's not a guy who knows how to party. That's silly.

I would rather not fuck that girl. That girl has a lot of outrageous demands. You know who he's friends with? He's friends with the dude who's a pretty amazing dude to me, too, that owned Consumption Junction. Do you remember that website? Oh, yeah. Well, I went to Arizona to do shows. It's all like crazy stuff, right? Consumption Junction is all like car accidents.

Is that still around? I don't know if it is, but the dude sold the website and made millions of dollars. Powerful. He's his best friend, and I went to Arizona to Scottsdale or whatever Tempe to do shows there. And he's like, let me call my friend. He'll show up at your show. So the dude shows up and sits down and starts telling me stories. He's like, so I'm in Panama.

Because there's no extradition laws there. And we're doing mountains of coke, and we're fucking these girls. And I'm pissing all over them. And we're all in the coke and we're fucking these girls and and i'm pissing all over them and we're all in the shower and there's eight girls for me and eight girls for my friend and like these guys just live in a world that like they make movies about oh shit and they tell me these stories and i'm like are they just are they lying to me to impress me because i'm a comic and then you see his website and you go oh okay there's guys that are doing that there's there's these joe Joe Francis type characters that are

like, that guy is notorious. I think these guys are beyond that. This dude now owns a website called Sugar Sugar. It depends on how much money you have. It really does. If you're a sociopath and you got a billion dollars, you can do some damage. You can just go out there and ball all the time. I know some people that are

big finance people that back in the early days of the UFC, and these guys had tons and tons of money, and this guy was ugly as fuck. This guy used to travel all over the country just banging chicks, and he'd always tell me stories about being in Ibiza and being in Russia and being here. He's just a fucking 20th century baller. That's awesome. This guy was just roaming the country, roaming the world rather, just everywhere,

especially if you go to other countries. In other countries, people just fuck. That's the world, rather. Just everywhere. Party. And especially if you go to other countries. Yeah. In other countries, people just fuck. That's the guy I want to hang out with. I toured. America's a different rap. And you know that because you go to Australia like six months a year, right? Well, I toured for about six years extensively around the world, like doing China and Dubai

and all the South Africa. And I saw some shady, shady shit. Like, you just start finding out, like, prostitutes are $50 around the world. And I was at a party one night in Dubai where everyone was so fucked up. They went, oh, let's get hookers. And when we found out they were $50, we were like, well, let's get 10 each.

And it was like, we didn't even want to have sex with them. It was like, it was just out of like, you know, like, it started with, well, I don't know, $50. I just want them to come over and listen to my jokes. You created your own audience. Everybody gets 10. We've got 30 people.

That's a decent night in the OR. Imagine having the audience you could fuck afterwards. That's awesome. Well, that's, this is what happened. I'm not going to mention the names because some of them are, you know, comics that work here, but there was a whole bunch of comics and everybody started upping the ante. They're like, I want to just have them come over and fucking pour maple syrup all over them. And we're going to swim around the fucking bathroom floor.

I want to put Pringles on. This is in Dubai. This was in Dubai. Did you guys worry about being arrested? Because they have some really crazy laws over there. From the minute we got there to the minute we left on this trip we were so fucked up that it never occurred to me and then my next trip over i i got fucked up in customs and thought i was never coming back what happened i uh i didn't have the proper visa and i tried to leave uh i missed

my flight because i was all fucked up oh this was the same trip on the way back uh i tried to leave like the other two comics got on the plane. I missed the plane out of just being so fucked up. I was in an internet cafe. I missed the plane. And then I'm like, fuck, the next flight's not for 24 hours to London. So I try to leave the airport to go to a hotel. And my visa was only good for like three or four days or whatever.

So they checked my visa. They checked my passport. And they didn't match because my agent fucked up. Oh, no. My agent put my middle name or something on it somehow. You easily could be a spy too. Look at you. Yeah. He's got a spy look to him.

Guy just took my passport, walked away, and I never saw my passport again until 24 hours later. Wow. So I'm without a passport. The next thing I know, I'm in an office. Next thing I know, fucking strip search. I've done. They've gone through everything in my bag. They've gone through my computer. When they opened up my computer, my heart

started beating so fast that I'm like, because pornography is illegal in the Middle East. And they tell you, don't buy porn. The guys are going to try to sell it to you in the streets. Don't buy it. They could be spies. So they looked in every folder in your laptop they opened my laptop and when they opened it i was just like this is it i'm gonna be in fucking prison a middle eastern prison for the rest of my life because i downloaded like topless car wash angels you know like that's like this is fucked and uh i had called my girlfriend at the time because

they kept making me go. Like, before they, like, kind of held me in this office, they were like, go to this office. And I'd go to this office. They'd be like, go to this office. And I kept walking down hallways. And they're like, go down this hallway. And they make me walk down this hallway. And there's a big sign that says, like, nobody is allowed past this point.

No one at all. Like, whatever. In English it said it. And I'm like, they told me, go down that hall. And I'm like, I'm not going down that hall. They're setting me up or something. So I call her on the phone. I've got my cell phone. And I go,

listen, I'm fucked. I don't know what's going on, but if you don't hear from me in two hours, call the U.S. Embassy and tell them I'm in trouble. I said, something's fucked up here. And Dubai is supposed to be like the most progressive place in the world. What? No, it's not.

Not in the world, but I mean in the Middle East. Of the Middle Eastern countries. Yeah, but that's just because they want the money. Exactly. They want tourism. They want it to be Vegas of the desert. Yeah, they look the other way. You see shit like Russian hookers barbecuing sausages on the beach like topless.

And you're like, wait a minute. Really? This is a fucking Muslim country. Yeah. But I've heard of people who have been arrested that were making out there. So it was just subjective? Like they decide when to enforce it? That was Sex and the City, wasn't it?

No, no. It was a real couple. A real couple was making out. There's weird fucking shit. Like we had drinks, beers on our van. And I was over there another time shooting a documentary. And we had beers on the van after we shot one night and we had a female like that worked for the for the Emirates with us. And the next day we find out like we're in big trouble.

We drank around a female. We were swearing. There was all kinds of shit. And they're like, they're like, you broke every like Sharia law possible. You fucked up. There's evidence of this well it was kind of like because i was over there with like a guy who's really his his father is like the attorney for the emirates right and so it was kind of like you guys are okay but don't fuck up again

like like you so do you have a mark against you now so if you go go to Dubai now. I'm never going again. We filmed one thing where I put on a dish dash, which is the Islamic, well, not Islamic, but just the garb that they wear in Dubai. And, you know, it's the white gown

and the hat. They gave me one of those when I did the UFC in Abu Dhabi. Yeah, and a buddy of mine just wore them around town. We thought it was kind of funny and we're just... Right.

And we kept asking people, we're like, we're okay, right? We're not breaking any law. And they're like, No, no, it's not religious. It's just the clothing that people wear. And then the the girl that worked for the Emirates left the Emirates and sent me an email telling me that there were spies watching us the whole time. And I was like, just fuck this shit. I don't need to go back there. Yeah, who was it that was telling us Pete Johansson was telling us that he did gigs in Dubai and there was members of the secret police would

sit in the audience and watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they would be in the front row and they'd be totally obvious. I think he's, actually I don't remember if he said the front row. He might have said the back row. Whatever he said, they were super obvious. And they were standing there with their arms crossed just staring at him the whole time. So he's trying not to cross any lines, trying not to say any –

What's the lines? You can't cuss? No, no. You can say anything you want. Religious things. They don't want you making fun of Islam. Well, remember when we had – what's his face? Hal Sparks?

And he was talking about almost getting arrested. He was doing gigs with John Lovitz. And he made a mistake of calling the – speaking of one of the sultans or one of the sheikhs. And he called them – what do you call them? Monsieur? Monsieur? I think he said that. Like called them the French name for mister.

And apparently one guy got incredibly offended and called the religious police and people showed up. And they were going to fucking put him in jail for this. I seriously think I could make a movie about my weekend, the one weekend I went there. It's real scary when there's other parts of the country where you travel like that. We get used to behaving and thinking you have a certain amount of freedom. What you do here?

This is an entirely free country. Weed's still illegal. You can't say, I want to kill the president, or if you do, they'll lock you up. Obviously, it was in character when I said that. The president of Kentucky Fried Chicken. Kentucky Fried Chicken. There's certain things you can't say it's not completely and totally free but for the most part it's pretty easy to get along here but if you go

to other parts of the world they're incredibly suppressive incredibly especially the middle east yeah terrifying you know that's one of the things like people like you know i am most certainly not for war and not into this war which i think is a fucking shady war and shady as fuck how we got into it. But, you know, we have to be very careful about the rise of Islamic power all around the world, the rise of Sharia, Sharia, Sharia law. We have to be careful of any kind of religious zealots, whether Christian zealots or Muslim zealots or any time that think they can lock you up and they have the right to because you were having fun, you know, you were out dancing, you were out drinking. I have to say that's some scary shit. I've always been not anti-American, but I always rail against the government on all

things. But when I get over there and this kind of shit happened, that's when you start to really appreciate your country. Yeah. You go, you know, I could call the embassy and they would take care. they fight for you it's sure that's what they're supposed to do you're the united states citizens you know i mean we pay taxes that's what it's all about you know that's the benefits of being a part of the team but it's just fucked up that we have to think about that anywhere you know i mean yeah united states is it's not perfect it's corrupt as shit you know

it's super corrupt the fucking The business of government is gigantic. There's a billion different jobs out there that literally don't need to exist. They exist to keep jobs going, to keep the business of government going. And it creates quagmires and fucking complex little social situations. That's what I always say to people. I think it's funny when people criticize the president. I'm not an Obama fan, but I'm not against him. I don't believe in the whole political system. But I love that criticize like he's the one who's in yeah yeah like like

yeah i always say everything you know he's so silly he's like it's like ww raw you know the whole political system exactly and vince mcmahon's the corporation's running it all yeah and and but but people that criticize like a guy oh you know ob Obama and his health care. I'm like, dude, you can't even fucking return your videos to Blockbuster on time. It's a general lack of understanding about the system, which I think most people have. And even me, I'll get like into it. I'll focus on for like a couple of months and then I'll go, what am I doing? What am I paying attention to? I'm paying attention to this stupid hustle, this fake thing that barely, you know, what goes on in Washington barely affects your day-to-day life.

What goes on in your neighborhood, what goes on with your friends, what goes on in your world, the people that you interact with, that's what affects your life. If you get really too hung up in dealing with, like, Washington and politics and Democrats and Republicans and thinking you understand that system, that's what's ridiculous. I used to work for a senator. Really? Yeah, it was my first job. Where? I worked for Arlen Specter. Get the fuck out of here.

Swear to God. That evil cunt. You know, that guy was on the Warren Commission report. Dude, I could tell you. I started interning for him in college. Wow. And it was like, I thought I wanted to go into politics or something. And then I realized, like, I'm the...

Well, I thought that I had the shady side that was good for politics. Right. But I was like, there's no fun involved it's just a fucking torturous horrible and they are that like everyone says it's poor man's hollywood specter had like hair plugs facelift fucking you know of course you have to appear virile to your audience and he was just like and he was the ugliest dude in the world and he was of an evil fuck man but when he would explain his his single bullet theory if he would sit and explain it to you after he does it, you would believe him. No, I wouldn't.

No, I wouldn't because I've seen the bullet. The dumbest thing about the single bullet is the bullet itself. It has almost no damage, went through two people, shattered bone, and it's barely dented. But I'm telling you, in his presence, he has this way of convincing you. Incorrect. I would not be amused or affected by that dummy. There's no way. that guy's an evil fuck there's no way I would listen to him and be impressed

is he charming? not in the least it was one of those things where I was like how the fuck did this guy get into politics all you have to do is be in once you're in it's like being a writer on a sitcom when you work on a sitcom one of the things you find out about working on sitcoms

is there's usually a few brilliant writers and these fucking fakes these people that aren't really funny at all like they were never stand-up comedians someone somehow or another got them a job as a comedy writer and now here they are on sitcoms and you deal with them over and over and over again and you realize all you have to do is just get into the system once you get into the system then you get other jobs i gave that speech once i got a deal a long time ago with uh for to do a sitcom and it was going to be about my life and i used to live with my sister in new york for a while and they thought that was funny you know to the point of view we'll make a show about it right and um so i met with writers or first i met with the all the development guys and they were like showing me the writers

they were gonna give me and they gave me the script of these guys and I went This is shit. This is shit. And my manager at the time was like shut the fuck up. Take the money Who's your man got up the time? It was Kerry Hoffman Kerry Hoffman out of New York. He owned stand-up, New York Oh my god stand-up, New York Didn't carry like he would get like people would get sitcoms and he would want a piece of the sitcom because they used to work out of his club and he would want a piece of the sitcom because they used to work out in his club. Didn't he do that? That's hilarious.

He listened to that. But stuff was like, listen to that. The guy was a manager of a fucking, or owned a comedy club. The comics would go up and they'd perform at his club and they got to develop, one guy got a development deal. And he wanted like a certain percentage

of this guy's sitcom because he used to practice at his club. Oh, that's fucking stupid. It's amazing. And he didn't get it though, did he? Of course not. He would try really hard. Amazing that he would even chase after that. So I'm sorry. at his club. Oh, that's fucking stupid. It's amazing. And he didn't get it, though, did he? Of course not. Of course not. He tried really hard.

Amazing that he would even chase after that. So I'm sorry. So this guy tells you to shut the fuck up. He's like, shut the fuck up and take the money. And I'm sitting in the meeting, and I said, no offense. I said, I understand that you think these guys are good writers and everything. I said, but I know this whole system, what goes on. Guys get in, and they get their buddy in, and he can't write.

But then they've been there for 10 years, and you don't realize they never wrote anything good they were just there and now they get to be a showrunner i said i've got millions of friends that write funnier than this can i can i just go out and get one of them and we're jim and i are in that situation right now where they're trying to do a show with us right now and it's like we feel like we we could write the show there was a time when i had a development deal where there's two guys that were uh uh writing for friends they were the creators of friends and one of them branched out on his own and uh i got this development deal and uh it was for fox and it was it was a good amount of money and so they they really wanted this guy to do it because this guy

had like such a great background well often what happens is when there's a team of writers you got one brilliant guy and the other guy is this fucking buddy that you bounce shit off of, you know? And so the brilliant guy is bouncing shit off the other guy and then they put it all together like maybe the other guy types and they become a team. So you got bounced. Well, then somewhere along the line, the other guy says, you know what? I think I'm unrecognized. My talent is much better. So this fucking idiot decides he's going to go out on his own.

So he gets this giant development deal. It was for Michael Eisner's company. And it was a fucking huge development deal. Millions and millions of dollars. Everybody was like banking on this guy. And so I go to meet with the guy. They want me to meet with him. I meet with him, and he's wearing bowling shoes.

And whenever I see a guy who's trying to be wacky, you know, you're wearing bowling shoes, aren't comfortable. Those are uncomfortable as fuck. Like why are you wearing those? You're wearing those to let me know that you're nutty. You know, I might be a multimillionaire, but I wear bowling shoes to the office. Did you just get done bowling? No, you're trying to send a message that in the messages you're dressing like you think a funny person would dress. That tells me you're probably not fucking funny. So I immediately get terrified. I'm like, oh, this guy's just as a fucking faker. He snuck through. There's no way. There's no way. How could he get this fucking gigantic multi multi-million dollar deer if he snuck through? So I meet with the guy. We talk. He has an idea. He wants me to be a part of it.

We meet and then they give me one of his scripts. The script that I read is fucking terrible. I mean, it's just God awful. There's nothing funny in it at all. And I'm like, well, maybe this is just, you know, just a shit script. Maybe he's got some other ones. Maybe there's a spec. Maybe they had him write this, you know, and it wasn't a subject that he was interested in. So this guy comes up with the this is his idea for a sitcom.

A sitcom is about an immortal. It's about a man who's immortal. OK, and he exists since, like, Egyptian days. And all he does is, like, get laid. It's fucking devoid of comedy. Who wants to watch a sitcom about an immortal, a guy who's an immortal, has been immortal since the Egyptian days, and all he does is try to get laid? I don't understand all these hooks in these sitcoms.

When you look at, like, the best sitcoms that have ever existed, the jobs or whatever they do, it's so superfluous. All you need is a group of people that hang out together and have relationships with each other and the interesting relationships. If you look at Taxi and Cheers, you could move them to any other setting and they would be funny. You put them in an office. Well, that wouldn't, it just didn't matter what this guy did. This guy was not funny. It didn't matter if he wrote about three people hanging out at a laundromat, or three people who work on the moon.

He just didn't. He's a fucking idiot. Yeah. He just snuck in. That show never made it out, though, right? No, of course it didn't, and I had to tell them. We had a meeting, and it was a real controversial meeting. It was like, they were upset at me, because I was like, this guy sucks.

And they were like, this guy does not suck. This guy is blah, blah, blah. He's this, he's that. He's done all these things. And I'm like, he's not funny. I'm telling you, this guy's not funny. This is a mistake. They're like, you don't understand.

There's more to writing than just being funny. There's character development. There's story arcs. And he's a guy who really understands that. And we can bring in more funny later. But what he's really concerned with is what we're concerned with want a really good story the story was deaf it was terrible it was stupid it didn't make any sense it was just like a guy who's pretending to be a comedy writer who got a job writing comedy it's like if you took some fucking guy work for a fence company you

know i'm tired of writing fences i think i can i think i'm good writer i've done it i've been doing stand-up for 15 years and i it only it years. And it took me 14 and a half years to finally realize that 95% of the people in the business don't know anything about comedy. Well, you can't really truly understand unless you're doing it. I mean, I've lately been putting them to the test where I'll say, well, explain to me why. And when you put them on the hot seat, I'll say something like, why is that comic doing that? Or why do you think he's good at what he does? Or why isn't he good at it? Are you asking agents, managers?

Yeah, everybody. Development people, talent scouts. I always do it, and I put them to it. And they'll go, well, you know, he does this really interesting thing where he's kind of like not really observational, but he's kind of political, but he's he's more on a surreal. I'm like, you have no fucking idea. You have no idea. You all are sheep and you just fall. It's not that I don't think they I think agents and managers are really important, but I think they really can't truly understand what comedy is all about unless they do it.

Unless you do it, you're really never going to be an expert on it. You might know a lot about it, but you're never going to really truly understand it unless you can recreate it. I have an agent out of Australia. I think he might have worked with you when you were down there, Artie Lang.

Yeah, I did. Same name as Artie Lang, Howard's guy, but same name. Artie is fucking the greatest agent that has ever been a great guy he's fucking amazing and he knows comedy he did comedy a little bit and like you'll do a bit and he'll go why don't you say this and you're like yeah that that would actually work better and uh i'll run my sets by him before i go on tv and he's like no no take that out put that in any shit i'm not saying that he can't have some understanding of comedy without

doing it you just can't really truly understand it. You know, you're never going to understand it the way a comic understands it. It's all theoretical until you put it in practice. It's like a guy who does kata in the gym and is pretty sure he could fare well in a street fight. Yeah, yeah. But really, he's not really sure. It's theoretical.

A guy who's actually fought a bunch of times is like, yeah, I've been through this shit before. I know what I'm going to do. You know, there's a difference. But there's nothing wrong with agents and managers that don't understand it totally because they do a great job. You know, I wouldn't do it and you wouldn't do it. We're not going to sell ourselves. We're not going to go out and get development deals. We can't do it anyway. You can't negotiate for yourself. It's impossible, especially that and be creative. Like it's

important to have managers and agents, you know, but they don't have to know everything. They just have to shut the fuck up and push in the right direction, if you're talented. The problem is when you're not that talented or when you're not doing that well, you haven't become successful yet, then they start tweaking you. Then they start, well, we've got to figure out what's going on here. What you need is a new look. Jamie Masada told my friend Todd Parker that he had to be the Generation X guy. That's what he was saying. Buddy, you are Generation X guy. This is your new hook.

You go on stage, everything come out of your mouth. Generation X. I am Generation X guy. Have you IMDB'd that guy now lately, the Friends writer, just to see what kind of product? I don't even remember his name. I don't remember his name. But I met a couple of those guys. I wrote something with one of those guys, a guy who wrote on Seinfeld.

It was fucking terrible. He couldn't write anything funny. It wound up being me writing the funny stuff and him writing it down. It was a terrible relationship. Kerry Hoffman did that to me, though, once. He tried to change me. He's like, I've got an idea. You never see comedy duos anymore.

We get you and a girl. We get you and a girl, and you do like Stiller and Mira. It'll work. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What an idiot. Yeah. What is that guy still in the business?

I think actually he's doing really well because he's got Mike Royce and Tom Hurt, who are really good writers. Yeah. I think Tom might be on. I always liked the guy. Doing his club was always nice to me. When I heard that shit about him trying to get 15% from guy. And doing his club was always nice to me. But when I heard that shit about him trying to get 15% from people. He was kind of like a father to me. He was really good.

And he actually did shit that was amazing. Some of the shit he did was the best stuff a manager ever did for me. When I went to Montreal to do New Faces, he sent a tape of me to every single person that wasn't going to Montreal. And I bombed at Montreal. Bombed. And so I was fucked and then all the people that didn't go to Montreal saw a tape that was great and we're like he's awesome what year was this this was 2000 I think so people were stopping going to Montreal by then it was Montreal kind of died I was my year my year of new faces was listen to this it was me

Tony Rock I believe was in it uh dean edwards who got saturday night live that year dimitri martin mike berbiglia uh russman eve like everybody got something big out of it and uh so it was like the last year then and i it was the last year because chicken was the year before yeah that was what i was going to bring up when we're talking about this i think we brought up chicken on the podcast before didn't we well chicken god rest his soul it's the most amazing phenomenon and this is the proof that agents and managers have no fucking idea they just don't get it they don't know what's funny and what's not funny this some of them don't i should say this guy um he was this young kid who was uh just real boyishly handsome and he had this

really wacky act like there was there's a screw loosely handsome and he had this really wacky act like there was there's a screw loose in him and he had this like really like completely over the top act that just would baffle comedians they would go this is not funny at all i don't get it oh dude it was all like i'll give you one i remember i auditioned for snl with him he uh he went on stage and said so and so when they hit a home run, did you ever see him? They just jog around the bases. He's like, they just casually jog around if they hit a home run. He's like, if that was me, if I hit a home run, he'd be like, woo, what the fuck, yeah.

And he'd do flips on stage and run around the audience and throw his arms in the air. And be like, I'd be flinging shit in the air out of my ass. But people would almost like, if you just see a crazy man jumping up and down in a nightclub, you're like, oh, that dude's pretty crazy. That's what he was. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, he wasn't that talented. He tried really hard.

Anyway, he wound up getting this giant development deal and just being a complete total bust. Like, they couldn't do anything with him. He was just not talented. It was just awful. And so he went into this sort of dark depression, and then comics hated him. Like, he was a punchline for comedians. Yeah. A bunch of them would just shit all over him.

You know how comics are. If one guy's doing better than you and you think he's not as good as you, it's just fucking venomous hate. So this kid wound up killing himself in front of a school. He hung himself on a tree in front of a school did he do that i didn't know that yeah i'm pretty sure that part of it i know i heard the story when he was at montreal though like there was so much hype on him going into montreal that uh like that they were bidding on him before he even went on stage and i think he did as he was going on stage someone said to his manager like one of the networks goes like

we'll give you a million dollars if he doesn't step on that stage because they knew his price would even go up once he went on stage and a million dollars well his development deal was a half a million oh that was pretty sure that's what he got so they said like we'll give you a half a million for at least that's what the rumor was not to go on stage because they didn't want the bidding to even go up further so i don't know. I think that's a lot of hype. Yeah. I don't think that really happened. That doesn't really, nobody does that.

But there was a lot of people that were into this kid and comics would be standing in the back of the room watching this kid flail around on stage and, you know, like literally flail, you know, and like he was on fire and go, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. Is there clips of him online, you think? That's a good question. Michael Ruth was his name, think i met him what the night we did snl we're all we're all back we were auditioning at caroline's and we're all in the green room and he comes into the green room and all the comics kind of know each other and then he shows up in the green room and he's

got this energy you know those energy like vampires that just suck all the energy away from everyone else he starts bouncing around the room going it's fucking crazy i don't know what i'm fucking doing here this is like snl's here and i'm fucking like i'm not even a comedian i don't know what you like this is crazy you guys like do your shit and i just get up on stage and i'm like wacky and fucking crazy and and everyone was just kind of you know comics we're all looking at each other like dude you're it was almost like he was psyching us out too right because we're all trying to you know this is a big deal for us we're all trying to get on right and uh he's bringing you into his head yeah and i thought that's what he was doing and i'm like you're fucking with me right now and

i'm about to punch you in the face like that so you thought he was doing it on purpose yeah and i'm i'm like i'm it. Would someone really do that? I think there are guys that kind of do that. Really? Yeah. How would that work, though? That's a weird strategy

to go out and... Did you get anything out of it? I found some videos if you want to listen to one. Yeah, let's listen to one. I don't like comics that go... Yeah, that's him, man. You go, how's the room?

Does it say anything about him? How he's dead? Yeah. Did it say how he killed himself? No. It just said... You guys got a lot of white suburban gangster kids here. I ain't got a voice... You guys got a lot of white suburban gangster kids

here. I ain't got a voice. You guys got a lot of white suburban gangster kids here. Know what I mean by white suburban gangster kids? 17-year-old Caucasian boys that look like me. Fuck you. Except that they're black and raised in the hood. They're all walking around the mall

here. They got their pants hanging off their ass. Got their hat on. Oh, shit. What's up, motherfucker? Oh, shit. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, shit. He pulled his pants down. It looked like a thong

he had on. What up, dog? We're like three pages of cell phone big-ass fax machine. Got our 45 pounds of gold, got our seven gold chain, three gold ring, two gold teeth, and the whole fucking time his name's Bradley. Same kid that pulls up next to you downtown, playing that rap music loud and sound like

the tough ass shit, driving his mama's minivan. No, same kid that walks in the dance clubs doing all those booty dances. You know. Damn, damn. Fuck you, dude. You can't do it. Fuck that. Give me my booty shit.

You can fuck up your walkie-talkie. You can fuck it up. He pulled his pants down again His name is Michael Roof R-O-O-F So anyway That's enough of that Anyway That's not terrible.

I mean, it's not the worst comedy I've ever heard. What's funny, when he was pulling down his pants the first time, he had taken his underwear and I gave him a wedgie so it looked like he had a thong on. So it was like a little extra touch there. He jazzed up the bit. I like the tagline, the new butt crack tagline he added. You know, whatever, man.

Nothing wrong with that. I mean, it's not my style. I'm not into it. He did some big movies. He was in like Black Hawk Down. Really? Yeah. Well, he had that big development deal

and then nothing happened for it. And then I remember like so many people were so fucking happy when nothing happened to it. And that's when it got really ugly for him. Like comics were happy that he was failing. There and then it was just there was like a lot of negative energy towards this but they used him as an example they said like he killed the development yes he did he did kill it they gave him a ton of money and that was it what really

killed it was their lack of real talent and ability to recognize talent right you know these these comics or these agents and managers they they're really just taking guesses. Yeah. You know, and that's what killed it. What killed it was all these big people that spent a lot of money and the people that were the head of studios and people that, you know, they had a budget and then they're like, why did we spend half a million dollars on this fucking thing? Like, what is this?

There's a lot of that going on, man. You know, like this, the friends guy, if they sat that guy down and said, just write us a couple of scripts real quick. You know, let's look at your scripts, if they sat that guy down and said, just write us a couple of scripts real quick. You know, let's look at your scripts. Let's look at your scripts. They read their scripts and then... Dude, they didn't read anything from this guy before he got this deal. I know they didn't. I know the whole story behind it. Everybody was so high on him. They just

wanted to throw this guy money. I've looked at a bunch of scripts lately and I'm like, really? Death, right? I can't do it. I've read a couple of them and I sigh and I look down at it and I go, no, I'm not even going in. I can't go in. I can't do this. Yeah, it would be nice to do a sitcom again.

I love doing news radio. It was a lot of fun. But good luck trying to find another one of those. By the way, Dave Foley's going to do the podcast. Got in touch with Dave Foley. No way. Yeah, very excited. But, you know, it's like getting a hold of one of those sitcoms is like a fucking one in a million.

And so if you don't do that, what are you dealing with? Well, you're dealing with a bunch of producers that don't really know how to do comedy. You're dealing with a bunch of writers. Most of them are not going to be talented because if they were talented, they'd be working for Modern Family or some of those big shows. There's not that many really good ones that are out there free. So it's like your odds of finding a good one are like 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20. So it's like your odds of finding a good one are like 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20. Yeah, Paul Provenza and I started writing a movie together on this idea that I had.

And I met Paul in Edinburgh. I was doing the Edinburgh Festival, and I kind of did the thing as a bit. And he's like, what? And I said, oh, yeah, I've tried to write a movie about that. And he's like, hey, you should write that fucking movie. This is the bit that you said is the same as my bit, the one that I talked about on the show. Yeah, very similar. I had a bit that I used to do.

I did it back in the 90s. I just talked about it on the show the other day because we were both on the Green Room show together. And we were talking about being booed offstage and when people want you to change the subject you're talking about and how people get upset at you. And I said that I used to do this joke about cloning Jesus because there was a thing called a second coming project. And the second coming project was funny.

That's what we named the script was the second coming because it's all about the guy jerking off was the opening scene. Really? Yeah. Okay. There was a real thing that was in the news about this many, many years ago. Anyway, this the idea was they were going to to take DNA from the Shroud of Turin and they were going to recreate Jesus. They were going to clone Jesus.

And this is a real thing? Sort of. I'm not sure. It might have been a parody. There's a lot of those to sneak through. By the way, Rachel Maddow got busted on a parody the other day. She was reading a parody. It's a fake website. And she was

reading it as if it was news that Palin supporters really believe that, you know, we have to inject Christianity into North Africa. It's really funny. So my bit was, you know, like Dolly the Sheep, you know, when they clone Dolly the Sheep, that shit didn't come out perfect. Like cloning is not an exact science. Like what do they do with the first Jesus if they clone him and he comes out retarded? Do you kill him and start from scratch? Or do you just, you know, and so there's this whole bit about it.

And when I did it at the comedy store, someone was yelling out, next subject. Fat white woman with fat blonde hair and fat blonde fingers. Just that, you know, I'm a Christian. Next subject. Like she was so firm in her wonky beliefs that she wanted to stop me. I love those people. It's a theoretical idea.

I mean, it's not a real Jesus we're talking about. And it's a real legit question. If they really do clone Jesus, that's a goddamn legit question. Like what if they found Jesus' bones and there was some DNA inside of it and they could extract it? They knew for sure it was Jesus. They knew it was his DNA. Well, that's a real legit question. What if he does come back retarded?

He could come back all fucked up. He could be autistic and psychopathic. He could be black as fuck. That's probably what it is. That's what I think. You can't start off white and then go black. There's a lot of evidence that Jesus wasn't even real. There's a lot of evidence that Jesus wasn't even real.

There's a lot of evidence that there was no Jesus. Based on mythology. Yeah, and that this same mythology repeats itself over and over and over again. So Jesus, even as a historical figure, is in question. There's volumes of pages written about certain Caesars and certain rulers of Greece and Rome. So the stuff that's on Jesus' soul, it's really hard to tell whether it's real. Well, and also all those biblical fucking, you know, like everything from all the Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, there was like the, there was the book of Q, do you know about

that? There's a, there was a fifth book of the gospels apparently that was, that Luke based his book on. I'm not completely accurate in all this stuff, but if you start reading about it, you'll find out that all four of them didn't live at the same time. So some of them based their account on the other ones

because they'll say it's identical of the other one. So it's like they just basically paraphrased. Yeah, and just rewrote it, which could have happened from the beginning. And then there was also the Council of Nicaea where these guys went in and decided, the bishops all went well we've got all these books we're going to throw out these ones we don't like these we're going to keep the they just rewrote history the way they wanted it so i mean it's like shit like that i'll never well you if you find out about the new testament

that's where things get really weird because constantine and a bunch of bishops created a new testament yeah that's the yeah and that's you know we're talking about something something that was way after Jesus' death, if Jesus was a real figure. The whole thing is fucking squirrely. The historical account, not even saying the religious account, the historical account is very squirrely.

I don't know. You were saying something about Dolly being retarded. I've often wondered when a dog bites someone, everybody's like, oh, he's a bad dog or whatever. You see people all the time. People with Down syndrome. Are there Down syndrome dogs? Yes. Mine's Down syndrome.

Your dog's retarded? Yeah, it's totally retarded. Or your dog's just really, really overbred. You have one of those little dogs. What's it called again? Pekingese Yeah those dogs man Guess what

That came from a wolf Yeah There's no way you get a good example If that is what you get from a wolf I think my dog might be part wolf Really? Yeah She's an Aussie cattle dog

Yeah And she's I grew up with Jack Russell Terriers You ever see those little fucking assholes? And they They're really aggressive Because they used to kill rats They're fucking so aggressive Sent them after rats I grew up with Jack Russell Terriers. You ever see those little fucking assholes? And they... They're really aggressive because they used to kill rats. They're fucking so aggressive.

Sent them after rats. We lived out in the woods and these things would do... One of them went down a... I couldn't find him one night. I find him down a sewer under the road. And there's a... I'm looking down the sewer grate. I see him.

And there's a pipe way down underneath that runs out to a creek. And I'm like, fuck, he ran up the pipe and he's under the sewer there's no way for me to get him i look down he's got a raccoon cornered oh my god and i'm like fuck he's dead he's dead this raccoon's just gonna and all and i'm just going come on like try to coach him out the hole and i'm screaming screaming and all of a sudden i hear and it goes and i'm like fuck my dog's dead right my dog's dead and i'm shining a flashlight and i don't see anything. Next thing I know, my Jack Russell drags the raccoon out of the pipe.

My Jack Russell killed a raccoon. Now, cut to about a year ago, my dog's leashless all the time. People, you can call me an asshole, but I don't believe in putting a dog on a fucking leash. And my dog's well-behaved, and she's amazing. It's not an asshole if the dog's well-behaved. As long as you really know the dog and it's well-behaved. It's when people walk around with pit bulls without leashes. That's silly. My dog's amazing. It's not an asshole if the dog's well-behaved. As long as you really know the dog and it's well-behaved. It's when people walk around with pit bulls without leashes. That's silly. My dog's amazing.

By the way, I used to do that. Like a retard. I found out it's silly. When I get close to home, I'll go, go, go home. And she'll run like 200 meters up the road. So one night I see this cat and she never would hurt a cat, but she'll play with them. So I go, go, go, there's a cat. You told her to chase the cat? Yeah, but she just play with them so i go go go there's a cat you told her to chase the cat she just plays with the cats and uh and uh so she goes running up the

road and all of a sudden i hear her go and i'm like oh fuck she's you know she's now fighting with a cat and she's never fought before and i come around the corner it's not a cat it's a fucking raccoon and i'm like fuck and the cat takes or the raccoon takes off so you totally chased after a raccoon thinking it was a cat yeah and how did you mistake the i don't it was so far away it was like 200 yards away so i wake up the next day and my dog's sitting there and her eyes are crusted shut and i'm like what the fuck so i take her take her to the vet and the raccoon scratched both her corneas. Yeah. Oh, God.

And he said, the vet said, these things will rip your dog apart. Shut your mouth, dude. It's the second time I've done that. Fucking junkie. Instead of texting and tweeting while he's trying to have some convoluted conversation. They said they'll rip your dog apart. And I said, well, what about the rabies? And he said,

rabies aren't bad in California, but the raccoons are fucking evil. That's fucking scary, man. Raccoon, when I lived in New Rochelle, New York, I had a big one in my neighborhood that used to fuck up trash cans. He was gigantic.

I mean, it was like a dog. I couldn't believe how big he was. And I got a blow gun just so I could try to kill him. And I was terrified. I opened the door. I was a small, I got a blowgun just so I could try to kill him. And I was terrified. I opened the door. I was a small, I had a small little yard. And I would open the door and he would literally be fucking 10 feet from me.

And I'd panic and slam the door. I'm like, get out of here, bitch. My old dog Cabo, I once let him out the backyard and just go to the bathroom. And I let him out. And instead I hear him going. I'm like, oh, what's going on? So I go outside and there's two skunks like cornered in my little backyard and the dog's about to attack them. And I'm just thinking, I don't want to get sprayed.

I want the dog to get sprayed. You know, it takes forever. Yeah, exactly. My dog got sprayed when I was a little kid. It's the worst. It takes forever. You use tomato juice. Apparently there's an enzyme in tomatoes that helps break it down, but not much.

It doesn't work that good. You got to keep doing it over and over and over again that dog stunk for weeks have you ever heard the billy burr bit about raccoons what's the raccoon and the little hand stealing the cat the youtube video it's the hardest i've ever laughed at a joke in my life i don't think i must i saw him at the improv one night it was recently so it's probably like in his new set but it's billy show you know angry billy gets right right he's so angry watching this youtube video where a raccoon keeps stealing like cat food like it comes over and keeps stealing the food from the cat or from the dog or something and he keeps going those little fucking raccoon hands and tears were coming out of my eyes i was laughing i've never laughed that hard at a comic's bit. Oh, check it out. Because he's so angry about the little hands.

And he's like, and the fucking little mask on this. It's pretty crazy that all dogs came from wolves. Yeah. You know, when they figured out the genetic lineage of dogs, they expected to be a bunch of wild canids in there, a bunch of different kinds of canines. Nope. Wolves. All originally was a wolf.

Well, what about a dingo? It's a different kind of dog. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a canid, a wild dog. Okay. I All originally was a wolf. Well, what about a dingo? It's a different kind of dog. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a Canada wild dog. Okay. I know. There's specific ones. But the dingo doesn't come from a wolf, does it?

I don't know. It's a good question. It's an Australian. Dingle some baby. Yeah. Do dingles eat babies? You're from Australia. My dog looks like a dingo.

Do kangaroos kill people? That was a recent thing of discussion. One time I got out of a car and i thought it was a fucking like we were driving through this like neighborhood i don't know why we're in this neighborhood a simple yes or no would you say here's i don't know but i've heard stories that yes because when we went to the zoo in australia they told us the big ones the big there's big kangaroos i forget which kinds of the big ones what are they the red ones the gray ones i don't know the big ones kill people they have a bunch of times they said you have to be very careful if you approach them in the wild.

This thing I read the other day, it said like 100 people die a year from it. And then this other website is like there's been a few known attacks in the history of, you know. Yeah, there was one woman recently, her dogs were killed. The most recent attack that I could find online. This kangaroo drowned her dogs. That's pretty fucking gangster. Kangaroos drown drown your dog i saw the biggest fucking kangaroo and i thought it was a statue in these people's yard and i was like what the fuck who has this giant kangaroo statue i mean like 10 foot tall this thing looked like it was no what they get to be like seven what's your

ceiling yeah as tall as your ceiling and i went come on i swear to god and i got out of the car dude this is like a 10-foot ceiling, right? How many feet? This is like 10 feet. I was with two other comics, and I see this thing over by these garbage cans. I'm like, holy shit, look at this fucking thing. And I start walking towards it, and this comic named Pommy Johnson goes, get the fuck back in the car, mate.

Fucking get in the fucking car. And I'm like, what? And I'm walking towards it, and all of a sudden i see it move i know he's like it'll fucking disembowel you made it'll fucking go wow and that's what they claim i think it's like an urban myth that they just fucking rip your stomach no no it's not an urban myth people definitely have been attacked in that manner this thing i thought they just got punched a lot the red kangaroo was the big one. I was trying to find out how bad. That would fucking freak me out if I saw a kangaroo that big.

Yeah, no shit. I don't think they're that big, though. I think you were freaking out. If they were that big, I would love to try to ride around in them. Your ceiling, I didn't think it was 10. I thought it was about 7. I'd say 7 feet tall, this fucking thing. Yeah, that's what they told us when we went to the zoo in Australia.

It was fucking 10. Whoa, okay, here we go. They can went to the zoo in Australia. It was fucking terrifying. Whoa, okay, here we go. They can go to eight feet tall and weigh 200 pounds. Holy shit. Wow. Have you ever seen those videos of the kangaroos? Eight feet fucking tall? Yeah, terrifying.

That's insane. I've seen herds of them. That is amazing. You ever see those videos of the kangaroos fighting on the golf courses in Australia? Yeah, that's where you see them all the time, golf courses. It's not the red kangaroo. The gray kangaroo is the big one, right? Isn't that the big one?

I don't know. Did you ever see guys fight them? The eastern gray. The boxing gloves? Jesus Christ. No, the red kangaroo does grow to nine feet fucking tall. Holy shit, dude. It doesn't weigh as much as the gray, but the red grows to nine fucking feet tall.

Dude, it was the scariest thing. Because I got from here to the curtain. I was 10 feet away from it. Fuck that. And I was walking to it because I swear to God, it looked like a statue. And all of a sudden, it moved its hand. And I went, oh my God, that's fucking alive. Holy shit.

That's crazy. That is so big. And this comic was just starting yelling out Get the fuck in the car Whoa man Wow That's a scary thing People are cunty to them I'm sure People hate them they think they're rodents

Well they kind of are I think they're kind of cool Squirrels must feel so fortunate That they're not rats All they need is just that fluffy tail And no's groovy and no plague you know just eat nuts you don't have to eat garbage okay cool cool have you seen the viral video yet of the rat that goes up the guy's face what oh yes on the subway i haven't seen it yet everybody's been telling me about new york city rats are fucking terrifying i remember when i lived in new york i think i've

told this story but i'll tell it again for this i was at a gas station once and i went to use a cell phone a pay phone this is how old this story is but I'll tell it again for this. I was at a gas station once, and I went to use a pay phone. This is how old this story is. I didn't have a cell phone. So I step away from my car while my car is pumping gas, and I go to the pay phone, and I'm on the pay phone. And while I'm on the pay phone, I'm watching rats, big ones like cats, jump in the wheelhousing of my car, climb on the tires, climb down. In your car?

Yes. I'm fucking 15 feet away i stepped over to use the pay phone and as i'm standing there on the phone i'm watching these rats and they keep going down this opening in the manhole there must have been thousands of them down there the way they were coming up so quickly and in in in such like rapid succession one after the other one after the other and then down one after the other one. I'm like, there's just a train of them down there. I would have called 911 and reported my car stolen. It's so scary, dude.

There's more rats than people in New York City. Yeah, yeah, like four. I think it's four rats for every person. Oh, my gosh. I was walking down McDougal Street one time, home from the cellar one night, and I'm just walking through, and, you know, people with their garbage out in the street for the garbageman to pick them up. I'm going between garbage and a building, and all of a sudden, rat just will runs out from the garbage and uses my foot as like a hurdle little feet touched my foot and it was the most i've ever been like a woman in my life i started

like jumping up and down like screaming because it's like it's like that fucking like adrenaline rush goes and you can't fight you can't run you. You're just like, ah, what the fuck? Imagine if a rat was as big as you. We're such pussies. We're such pussies compared to animals. We're so soft and mushy and fleshy. I think it's the filth, though, of the rat. It's not just the filth.

They're furious. Those are wild motherfuckers. That doesn't scare me as much as the filth of them just you feel like they carry hepatitis and fucking aids and everything i mean the black plague is not connected to rats isn't that all about rats not a bunch of plagues have been about rats i mean they're horrible carriers of diseases who was it did jim norton and uh i think it's jim norton and rich voss used to go to this one park in new york and sit there and watch the rats and they said you'd see like thousands of these rats.

Dude, there's so many of them in Manhattan. Manhattan is so crazy with rats. I was at a pool hall once in New Jersey, and this is the scariest rat I ever saw. It was my friend John. We were doing a gig, and we stopped home from the gig to play some pool. We stopped at this pool, get out of the car. And as I'm walking towards the door, there's a dumpster like outside. And as I pass by the

dumpster there's the biggest rat I've ever seen in my life I mean it is like a raccoon it was gigantic no bullshit I'm not bullshitting it was two and a half maybe three feet long in the body it was enormous and it had these huge fucking nasty yellow teeth and I don't know if it was sick or if it was dying. I mean, it might have been old age because it was so big. It might have been the end of the line for this fucking thing. But it was up on its back legs and it was going like this to me. And I was thinking, do I kick this thing?

Do I get a rock? What the fuck? I was just such a little girly man. I'll never forget the noise. Well, you've got to think, with all the poison they lay down, like you'll see the signs in the subway saying, you know, careful, there's, like, poison everywhere. They've got to be adapting and mutating,

and we're making some fucking scary rat that is just... Of course, right? Yeah. I mean, that's what happens with bacteria, right? That's what we're... And MRSA, it's, you know, that staph infection that people get that's what happens with bacteria right that's what we're at MRSA it's you know that staph infection that people get that's antibiotic resistant that's what it is from fucking is that like the super bug yeah well the MRSA is the super staph it's that it's

my it's i don't know what it actually stands for but it's uh something resistant uh staph so it's antibiotic resistant so when people get it it's like really really dangerous and it's really just created by human beings by you know us fighting off different versions so the only ones to survive were super fucking strong that's why i just read the other day that 80 of all the antibiotics in america are given to animals like they pump them so full of antibiotics and the same bacteria that we used antibiotics to fight off so do uh animals so all the antibiotics they're taking is causing the bacteria to butate which is making us immune to these antibiotics too hmm is that true because um i was on a on uh i did a thing about um i talked about food inc

you know and i got contacted and this is one of the coolest fucking things about this podcast i got contacted by a bunch of scientists. Fuck. Food scientists. People who are involved in these farms. And one guy who worked for a poultry company. And he was talking to me about it. Let me find it here.

That shows the difference between your listeners and ours. You have all these intelligent people that are really interested. We get guys who are like, you guys are fat cunts. Well, I get those too. Watch Korn too, by the way. If you ever get the chance to watch the documentary Korn. Is that about Monsanto? That's where they even go into more detail about having holes on the side of the cows.

It's so creepy. In food ink, there's a hole on the side of the cow. Well, it's according to this guy. First of all, one he wanted, and his name is Jacob Kim. So thank you, Jacob. And one of the things that he explained to me is that chickens are not on steroids, and then what it is is just genetic selection.

And they've naturally selected birds with bigger and bigger breasts to the point where they're freaks. So they wouldn't have survived if they were a real animal, but, you know, because we grow them just for their tits. And he also said that what they're supposed to do is they're supposed to cycle the antibiotics. So when a bird is sick, they have a cycle. There's 49 days, he says, to grow a bird.

So in business terms, the farmer sees profits go down as the flock stays longer than that. So in the instance that a 30-day-old flock gets sick, well, they're supposed to wait 21 days before they kill them. So when they get sick, they're going to lose like 10 or 11 days of profit. So if they do something like that and lose these days of profit, it's like a problem with them. So some unscrupulous companies don't follow that.

And then they send out the bird, you know, like 15 days later and the bird's still pumped up with antibiotics. It has a process to the system. So you're saying it's cycled out. I can't believe it. I know. I fucking had one thing that I didn't do right. Let me shut it off.

Thanks, AT&T, you fucking cunts. My new phone number. You fuckheads for giving out it all to 1-800-FAGGOTS. Oops, I said it. Shit. You're unretired. You got to stay away from that word. Yeah, he retired it.

But it's been feeding. It's been growing in him lately. Yeah, I find it a funny word. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I'm never going to retire a word. Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always said, like, when they tried to retire the N-word, I go, what are they going to do?

Put it on a banner and raise it into the rafters at, like, the Apollo Theater? Right. Like, a number? Like, it's retired. I apologize for saying that word. If some gay guy gets mad at me, I'll just flirt with him until he calms down a little. You just blow him until he goes to sleep.

Don't be mad. Yeah, I do a bit right now where I say it. I go, you know, like the reason that like gay men are more sexually promiscuous than men and women is because they've got time and energy from not fighting all the time because a gay fight you know it's just like hey those shoes don't match your belt and he's like really let's fuck you know like that's please gay guys beat the shit out of each other and that's the other thing gay guys can beat the other shit out of each other and they cops show up like what happened he punched me we'll hit him back faggot

that's funny um so anyway back to this guy, what the guy was explaining to me. So no steroids for chickens. That's not true. But it is true for cows. So cows are jacked. Cows are totally jacked up on hormones. But no hormones at all or no steroids on chickens. Because I eat all grass-fed stuff. I order all my meat from U.S. Wellness Meats.

Dirty hippie. No, it's good. Grass-fed beef tastes really good. Fucking had a strip last night and pork chops, grass-fed pork chops. Yeah. I ordered. We need pop shields, by the way, because pork chops makes a big. Yeah, I know.

Terrible noise in people's ears. I ordered those. Oh, cool. But I, yeah, I eat the paleo diet. Do you know that? Yeah. Yeah. So I eat that diet and I'm into all the grass fed shit.

And my chicken breasts that I get are grass fed and they're fucking massive. And I'm like, this is weird. I heard the whole thing was when you buy organic and grass fed that you're just not getting the... They're bigger. How's that possible? There's chemicals in the grass. Yeah. How's that possible?

I don't know. Grass has steroids. Yeah. What's going on that grass hey so what did you think about uh that movie into the void to the void i saw it last night i shut it off after the car accident when the the fucking the parents were killed in the car accident i'm like first of all you've just you showed me a girl who's a prostitute and a stripper okay and then you showed her happy family fuck you okay That's more science fiction than the DMT shit.

Because that's just shitty writing to me. You're showing me this girl who loves her brother. And how much do you love me? I love you so much. You're just jerking with my emotions, man. This isn't good story writing. This is nonsense. What I liked about the movie was the first person perspective.

It was like I was in a video game. That was cool as fuck. The blinking of the eye. You remember? You could actually see it where the character blinks. They would have it randomly every like randomly every five ten seconds yeah and then uh when he goes into the dmt trip did you think that was pretty realistic no no i thought it was amazing it was interesting yeah but it wasn't realistic yeah first of all you couldn't explain what the dmt trip looks to a

person you couldn't recreate it with like cgi because what it is isn't possible. What you'll see, it doesn't make any sense what I'm saying, but when you have a DMT trip, you're not seeing anything that can be recreated. It's impossible to recreate. What I'm watching there was just some swirly cool shit and really interesting, but when you see a DMT trip, firstm teacher but it's just first of all it's a million things at the same time it's a bunch of different things it's it's no matter how you depending how you look at it it's a different thing i really liked how there was so much detail

too because i've noticed this on past hallucinatory trips before like like little things so like after he was tripping like he shut this door and the door kind of had like a red pulse when he shut it and stuff like that now what did you think about the the big even at the very beginning where you were uh hypnotized in a seizure where it's just flashing all those logos that's crazy like that happens throughout the movie in some points you're just like all right they're brainwashing me right now this is this is like from the government or google yeah hey dmt that kind of shit though i'm starting to wonder about that. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I am paranoid. Oh, really?

I'm completely paranoid. Or I can get there, and I've got to, like, close the neuropathways, you know, and just fucking, like, try to bring myself back from it. Because I can go totally into that, where I'll start thinking, like, anything. Like a fucking sitcom, you know? Well, you had a real freak out recently. We talked about this on The Green Room where you got super paranoid from weed. Yeah.

And I've had it happen. It was the second time it happened. The first time I ate a pot cookie in Australia, the second time I just smoked. But you said something really interesting to me. You know, you said, I can't smoke pot. I said, yes, you can. You said, I have to go to therapy first. Yeah.

Like, what do you have to go to therapy about? Breathing exercises? I don't fucking know. But it just put me into panic attacks. And I thought it was just the weed. The first time it happened. Haven't we smoked weed before? Didn't we smoke weed in Florida?

You know, it's another funny story. Didn't we smoke weed in Australia? You know, it's a funny story. One time I was at a medicinal marijuana benefit that you were, like, playing. You were, like like doing a show at the comedy store for him calvin brian callan and i came over and uh some girl was with you like like that was in charge of it or something and she goes she had these muffins and i had no idea that i didn't know that you were a big pothead i didn't know that what it was and i was starving

and she goes do you want a muffin and i'm like yeah i'll have a muffin so i ate the muffin and i'm like these are really good and she's like yeah and then i callen goes what's the show and you go oh it's a benefit from medicinal marijuana and i go it clicked i went did i just fucking eat a pot muffin and she goes dude i remember she goes yeah and i went like this i to count i go i gotta go i gotta go i gotta get home right now and i drove home as fast as i could because i knew it would take you know like 20 minutes for it to kick in and i just didn't want to be out with it going on and just be and i was like fuck i gotta because i had i had done i had eaten pot cookies before and i was like i gotta get the fuck home so what happened so i drove home as fast as i could i get home and uh it kicks in and i just had the fucking greatest

experience all alone and i'm having like a wonderful night and i called a girl and you're like can you go to 7-eleven for me i need this this this this and i just was laughing and she's like you you're high i'm like yeah yeah but i the first time i did it was in australia and i had such a great time i had to do a show three nights in a row by the third night the, the same exact audience. Oh, my God. Every night. That's ridiculous. So by the third show, I'm out of shit. You know, I'm down to my worst stuff. And I'm like, so right before I went on stage, I ate a pot cookie.

Thinking, I did like an hour and 45 minutes. And they're like, it was fucking brilliant. And I'm like, what did I talk about? They're like, you talked about the Mach 3 Razor for an hour razor for an hour and i'm like really and they're like we don't even have it here that's hilarious how do you record your set that would have been great i've had uh two freak outs where one i went to the hospital and was it pop related pop related uh and once where the ambulance came to my house and i i but now i don't get that anymore i don't get that anxiety or anything like that unless i eat it and then when i eat it it's not good well also i mean it's a depends on what's going on in your life at the time you think you know yeah i should be getting paranoid i should

be dead right now then why because i smoke pot every day and my life's crazy you know your life's crazy yeah well you know just all the shit lately if that's what you're saying no no it's not i don't think your life's crazy man i. I think your life is saner now than it was just a couple of years ago. Yeah. Do you remember you, well, you know, I don't want to get into personal details,

but you know what I'm talking about. The problem is, all right, and here's the number one problem with eating it, is that nobody knows what the fuck it does to you. You know, nobody tells you. They just sell these things at the pot stores. Oh, is that a pot brownie? Oh, I'll try eating it.

Not knowing that it's way more powerful. Way, way more powerful. And it lasts forever. I ate a pot brownie once and I swear to God it lasted 12 hours. Yeah, this first one lasted about 12. Fucking amazing. And they told me, it was funny, I was having a great time. I was in Adelaide,

Australia. I'd been drinking all day. And then I ate half a cookie and they said, just eat half. Nothing happened. I go, I'm going to have the other half. And they were like, all right. I did the other half, having a great time. And all of a sudden I turned around. I got up to go to the kitchen.

I turned around and looked at these girls and I go, make it stop. Whatever we have to do to stop this. To stop your trip? Yeah. I was like, can we we is there any way to like abort right now and they're like all right calm down and i'm like no no no we need to fucking stop this and they're like why are you being such a bitch i don't know but but what started happening it was around a bunch of girls man why don't you pull it together hey remember when i

tripped out at fear factor i had to sit with all those girl interns in their car and i'm just together though you didn't yell at anybody to make it stop i thought my eyeballs were Remember when I tripped out at Fear Factor, I had to sit with all those girl interns in their car. You kept it together, though. You didn't yell at anybody to make it stop. I thought my eyeballs were popping. I jacked him when he first came here from Ohio. He had nothing. He had no resistance. He was used to this Ohio weed, which you might as well have been. It's Mexican brick weed.

Might as well have been smoking talcum powder. It's nonsense. That's a terrible example. Gold Bond. And I gave him a pot lollipop. These fucking Beyond Bomb. Before Beyond Bomb went to jail. terrible example gold bond and i gave him a pot lollipop these these fucking beyond bomb before beyond bomb went to jail they were operating a multi-million dollar operation out of oakland

the dea raided him during the bush administration and we had two we had one on the way there and then like a half hour later you're like you feel anything i'm like no not really and then so we took another one because we i think you were new to the lollipops too at the time you didn't really know like the length of how how much longer this'm sitting in where he drops me and goes oh hang out here in this trailer it was like the trailer with all the managers and directors producers and stuff like that and i'm just sitting about not knowing anybody and it hits me they were all super friendly oh they're totally cool but i mean my heart started pounding i started freaking out i go and sit on the curb and then in between breaks you come out you're like how you doing i'm like dude i'm so fucking stoned i'm having a panic attack

and you're like dude i still have a mic on everyone can and so now everybody everybody in the trailer now hears me and so then he like dropped me off in these interns car and just sat there and talked about fucking the sex in the studio or something i think i told you this i know this these these little dudes that I used to kind of it was a girl that was friends with her little brothers and they were big potheads in high school and we used to hang around we were in college at their house and uh they'd always they were up to no like they'd grow it in their backyard they tried everything so they were they were making pot cookies one night and they make them and they leave them out they're kind of a wealthy family

they have like a maid and everything they leave the pot cookies out because the parents are always out of town the maid puts them in baggies and puts them in the in the cookie canister dad comes home grabs two cookies two full cookies and eats them rushed to the hospital thinking he's having a heart attack wow that's hilarious and i say to the kid like they're telling me the story i'm like so did you tell him they're like fuck no wow that's hilarious. And I say to the kid, like, they're telling me the story. I'm like, so did you tell them? They're like, fuck no. Wow. That's hilarious. So did he ever figure out

that he was medicated? I don't think he did. Like, the whole family. Just thought he had a panic attack maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, one kid went to jail because they dosed their teacher up in school. Yeah.

They gave the teacher pot cookies. I remember in high school, we used to always try to sneak in laxatives in our teacher's coffees and stuff. And now I look back back and i'm like that's fucking rude because i mean i remember getting like milk and it's pouring like the whole thing dangerous too it's evil i heard of i heard about a fraternity once you know all these dumb fraternity parties i forget where it was this college like george mason when i was doing a

show there they go oh yeah we got this fraternity that at the end of hell week they uh they feed them spaghetti they give them this big spaghetti dinner that the little sisters make for them. And then they feed them chocolate pudding, but it's full of X-Lax. And then they make them climb a tree. And they've got to spend the night in a tree. The top guy gets to go to the top of the tree and all the way down. So if you're an asshole, you're down at the bottom. So they're shitting on each other?

They're just all shitting on each other. Fraternity things are so disgusting. If you're an asshole, you're down at the bottom. So they're shitting on each other? They're just all shitting on each other. Like a tree of crickets. Fraternity things are so disgusting. They're just preparing you for just to be fucked with and to be in some cunty group where you get to fuck with new people. Just taking advantage of the people that have the least amount of power and the people that want the most from you. The only good thing about fraternities was going to their parties and fucking their sorority girls.

I did stand up at a fraternity once. I'm pretty sure. I know it was supposed to, I know I did a lot of college, a lot of college gigs and like weird spots like cafeterias and shit and rec rooms. And I did one in the cafeteria where I had to stand on actual cafeteria tables. I was like, that was the stage. It was a table.

It stood on a cafeteria table. But, um, one, one, um, fraternity stunt That I heard That was the craziest

Was they made this guy Drink water And he died from water Oh yeah You can't drink too much water What's that called Hypnotremia or something Yeah

It's pretty much You're drowning yourself Yeah It's not nuts though But just drinking You piss out all your salt And then you What the fuck

It almost happens With this new Starbucks size Jesus Christ I've been drinking This iced tea forever And I'm still only 25 or 30. We are such gluttons. Hold that up to the camera. For folks that don't see it at home, this is the new Starbucks 32-ounce.

And this is just an iced coffee or an iced tea, rather. Yeah, here's the old size, and here's the other size. And it's thicker, too, or bigger. It's not only taller taller but it's wider. I got that hypno-tremia shit in a marathon. I ran a marathon. I panicked.

You just shouldn't change your fucking habits. Everybody goes, make sure you hydrate. I drank like 10 bottles of water before the race. Oh, wow. I knew I started pissing like so much that i went fuck i'm gonna piss all my salt out so i went up to i never thought about that ever a day in my life i went up to a coffee table and uh you know they've coffee and i go i go to this

woman i go do you have salt packets i need fucking salt i just wanted to down some salt right and this big fat black woman goes who puts salt in their coffee and i'm like just give me fucking salt and i knew it was gonna fucking happen and sure enough i hit like the 16 mile mark and i hit a wall i'd never hit in my life because i was just nothing left in i've never heard anybody doing that never even thought about i know a woman um died in i think it was sacramento i want to say. There was a radio stunt that they did where she had to drink a lot of water. Yeah, that was like a year and a half ago, two years ago.

Yeah, and it was like we were on the Crosstown radio station. We were on one of their competitor stations, and they were telling us a story, like how fucked up it was. That's some sad shit, man. Death by water. Some woman who was trying to win an Xbox for her kids or something crazy. It wasn't in San Francisco? Some northern California. Sacramento, I thought it was.

It might be San Jose. But northern California, whatever it is. It's just like, fuck, man. Drinking water? We're so bitchy. We're so fragile. Is there a dog out there that could die because he drinks too much water? No. We suck.

We're such pussies. Yeah, but that's an anomaly. That's like a... Then you see guys that... I know a dude who... This fucking crazy dude that I know from New Jersey who drank bleach and he's alive. What? He's the dumbest.

This guy went to Penn State and my friends all know him and they all talked about him. I finally got to meet him and he's just a fucking maniac. He sells Mack trucks now. I think that's what he does for a living. and uh they knew him from this fraternity they're like this dude fell off the roof four times everybody knows a guy like that and i'm like why would you keep climbing up there and they're like they put they would like put like signs don't let him on the roof don't he would still go up there and fall off so they tell me he chugged bleach and i'm like i don't did a shot of it or something and I go I don't believe it I don't believe it so I meet

him one night or I see him and I go hey dude I go hey dude I think his name is Regan or something I go is it true you drank bleach he's like yeah and I go what why and he goes because it's said on the bottle if you drink this you will die am I

dead no and that was like his whole point like wow he's a fucking philosopher i know homeless people used to uh drink rubbing alcohol when they couldn't get real alcohol or something like that do you remember michael dukakis yeah michael dukakis when he ran for president he's running for president and his wife kitty dukakis was such an alcoholic that she began drinking shaving cream and shit like that yeah she she was drinking like nutty shit and she got rushed to the hospital i believe it was shaving cream something you know aftershave something nutty do you work the stress factory

in new jersey i have vinnie brand told me a story i forget the comic i think he was one of those like famous prop comics but in his day was like a really bad alcoholic. And, uh, I'm like, I could be wrong with who the comic is, but, uh, Lenny Schultz,

crazy Lenny. I don't think it was Lenny. Cause I think the guys did. Lenny's not dead. Is he? I don't know. Whoever it is, I think is dead now,

but Lenny was really old. He went in fucking Vinnie's office and drank cologne. What? Like he came out and Vinnie smelled his breath and was like, like he was that much of an alcoholic. Chicks, have you ever heard of when girls fall asleep with hair dryers in their beds? That's like an actual, you know, a lot of girls do that to keep warm or something like that or the sound of it.

Have you ever heard of that before? Just full blast hair dryer. In their bed? In their bed. What? It's actually a condition. What? Yeah condition That's awesome People are so nuts man

This Kitty Dukakis thing It was rubbing alcohol That's what she drank I thought you died She was rushed to the hospital I guess you can die But how crazy is that This guy was running for president

It just goes to show you how much your world is falling apart When you're running for president How much effort do you have to put into it? It's the reason why these guys go gray like a year after they get into office. You know, the amount of stress and the, I mean, he wasn't paying attention to his wife at all. Don't you think you'd know if your wife was ready to drink rubbing alcohol? Like, baby, how you feeling? I'm thinking about drinking some fucking cologne.

What? Let's talk. Hold on. Listen, I can't talk. I've got to run for president. But don't drink cologne. I? Let's talk. Hold on. Listen, I can't talk. I've got to run for president. But don't drink cologne. I'll be back in 20 days.

Baby, I'm talking about drinking some rum cologne. Don't drink my perfume. Apparently she was taking antidepressants or something too. She'd been taking an antidepressant. And this is like antidepressants back in the fucking 80s.

What were they? I'm amazed. Ground up leeches? What did they serve you in 1989 for antidepressant prescription. This is like antidepressants back in the fucking 80s. What were they? I'm amazed. Ground up leeches? What did they serve you in 1989 for antidepressants? Cocaine. Coca-Cola. What kind of antidepressants did they have? They didn't have the good shit.

Just drink a Coke. Thorazine. No, that was for, wasn't that schizophrenia or something? I don't know. Prozac, right? Wasn't Prozac one of the early ones? I don't know. Dude, I know so many fucking parents that dope up their kids.

I know two parents where their kids are just wild, they're crazy, and the parents don't pay much attention to the kids, so the kids are on drugs. That's fucked up. They put the kids on some medication. People do that with dogs. People give dogs antidepressants and fucking anxiety drugs. My old neighbor, she used to live down the street from me, and I didn't know her that much, but you just say,

Hi, how you doing? What's going on? And her kid was, you know, always running around and, you know, playing fucking dragons and swords like kids do. You know, oh, God, I got to get him on something. There's something wrong with him. I'm like, there's nothing wrong with your kid. It's a kid. When kids are fucking four and you work all day and you come home, they're wired to the gills, okay?

No one's watching what they're eating. They're eating candy all day. And they want to go crazy and go nutty.'re just old you forgot what it's like to be a five-year-old this is how five-year-olds are they're fucking crazy five-year-old boys are crazy and she had them doped up and then this other lady i know same fucking thing her kid was wild he was running around crashing cars into everything she's like there's something wrong with him i gotta take him to the doctor i'm like there's nothing wrong with your fucking kid fucking kid so she's got him doped up too you You know, it's like, it's amazing that that's even an option.

Jim Jefferies said his mom used to wake him up every morning with a glass of orange juice and Ritalin and she would just open up. Like he said, he didn't even know what it was. She'd just be like, open up and just pop them in his mouth and make him drink it down. Well, you know, when you develop a kid incorrectly, some people are just mentally imbalanced. That is a fact. Some people, their hormone levels or their kid incorrectly, some people are just mentally imbalanced. That is a fact. Some people, their hormone levels or their chemical levels of their brain are just fucked up.

And they do need some help. But there's other people that just were, somebody raised them shitty. Just did a terrible job. Barely fucking paid attention to them. And the kid developed all this nutty behavior. And getting it out of someone, it's way harder to get something out of something someone once it's in there once they've already developed some wacky patterns of behavior and they have like a certain associations very difficult to get that to change but if you could just you know it's way easier to raise them correctly from the beginning to try to turn someone around once they're fucked up it's like

how many people that you know that are a mess that have fucked up lives ever pull it together ever you know ever so few but so few people quit anything i know a chick who used to prostitute herself oh and uh she was like the nicest girl in the world i knew two girls that kind of like went to prostitution and they you wouldn't think either of these girls but she was doing like craigslist hooking and shit and um she you know it had like the molestation thing and all that fucked up stuff and she went to therapy and i said why don't you tell you know did you what's your therapist say about it and she's like i don't tell them i'm like well you need to tell your therapist that you were molested and all this stuff and and work on that shit and she did eventually and she's like married and i think she's a kid and her life is good it she really

is a product of like it actually cleaned up that problem people can do it man you can change it just you got to be fucking goddamn committed staying on that track you almost have to become addicted to changing yeah you know you have to like get so and it has to get ingrained in you so deeply after so long a time that it actually becomes your new way of thinking and your new behavior. I mean, if you just go back and look at yourself, I mean, if I had to be myself at 21, I mean, I couldn't imagine if I had my 21-year-old brain today. I would be fucking insane. You know, I'd have nothing. I would light the house on fire.

I would fucking drive my cars over cliffs. I mean, I feel like last night what happened in my house, I had my 21 year old brain. Yeah. You guys had some nutty ass podcast on. Fuck. Um, what's I going to ask you? I'm afraid to go to my house. It's so you've never finished what happened to you, um, in the, the most recent, uh, pot

thing where you, you, you sent me a message. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in New Zealand and I'm, uh, I, I, I, I had smoked a few times. Arch, Arch Barker and I are really good friends and when we're in Australia we go to his house and we just

and he's another guy that's huge in Australia massive he's like in Australia he's like Chris Rock is in America right yes

wow like like Dane Cook yeah that massive like like crazy sells every ticket

he puts out I mean I've heard of him in America he's funny as fuck but it's crazy that. I love his cartoon. The guy catches on like that. Yeah, I love Arjun Poope.

He's fucking hilarious. And he was doing well in America. He's on Flight of the Conchords. You know, he's got a career here. Yeah, it's not that he's doing bad, but he's a superstar over there. He's a superstar there and he loves it. And it's a great place. So he splits his time there?

No, he's there now permanently. Permanently? Yeah. It's so crazy. He said, fuck it. He bought this great house up in the middle of like it's it's out there and he's got a farm and he and he just loves it now you're huge in australia too but you want to be over here more yeah i'd much rather be here why is that um just you know i've got family here and stuff and getting back the 15 hour flight is not easy it's brutal it is brutal

they fucking crush you they crush your spirit those flights three weeks I fly yeah I go there in three weeks I'm going

I'm going too are you going to be in town that week I leave Sydney like the day you show up oh really shit dude could have hooked you up with some

what day is your I got two shows because the first show sold out are you at the end more again no no I couldn't get in there there was two shows because the first show sold out. Are you at the Endmore again? No, no. I couldn't get in there. There was a band.

Because the UFC, what happens is the UFC books their stuff kind of late in comparison to stand-up and concerts. If you go to a concert venue, most concert venues are booked six months to a year out. So for the UFC, it's not that far out. We haven't announced shit. We got some shit announced right now that's in April, but there's still some stuff in March that's not that far out. Like, we haven't announced shit. We got some shit announced right now that's in April, but there's still some stuff in March that's up in the air, and the May stuff's up in the air, and the June stuff is up in the air.

Some of them get confirmed, and some of them are still up in the air. And the problem is sometimes I don't find out until, like, maybe the latest, the earliest is three months out. And three months out, it's tough to get a gig because all the venues are booked on Friday and Saturday nightsurday nights so it's saturday night i'm at a rudy hill wherever that is i know rudy hill rsl yeah yeah i know it i know it's supposed to be in a funky neighborhood you're i think you you must be is a list promoting uh the same people that promoted the last time yeah those are my guys yeah yeah yeah they're great yeah same guys yeah

you'll pack that place yeah so the first one's already sold out in the second one so and by the way um if you want to go to mandalay Bay this weekend, it's almost sold out. Friday night at the Mandalay Bay Theater. And there's going to be... It's going to be Ari Shafir and Joe Diaz. So it's going to be fucking crazy. It's a big, giant place. But I've been pimping the tickets for a long time, so it's almost sold out.

So this is the place I'm doing in Sydney as the RSL Club. You ever work there? Yeah, I think I've been there. Is it good? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an RSL. out so um this is the the place i'm doing in sydney as the rsl club you ever you ever working yeah i think is it good yeah yeah you're in it's a it's like it's an rsl ourselves like their retired service league yeah which means it's like they're veterans clubs right and so it's like a vfw you're playing so how come people tell me to get the fuck out of the neighborhood you think you think you're like fuck i'm playing a vfw but in that place they'll have a big fucking it must be pretty big what's it what's this capacity i think it's like 800 place, they'll have a big fucking, it must be pretty big. What's the capacity? I think it's like 800.

Yeah. They'll have like this theater within there. But in every little town, they have these RSLs and it's where you go to drink cheap before you go out at night. Right. And they got poking machines. Like an Italian club. Yeah.

But why are they telling me to get out of town? Because it's probably, they're saying it's a shitty neighborhood. Yeah. They're like, if you're going to party, don't party there. Get the fuck out of there. Get back in the city. Why? Is it creepy?

Yeah, it's just a fucking suburb. It's like playing like, you know, like if you were in Clifton. Where's Clifton? New Jersey. And you're not. Sometimes it's fun being in the suburbs, though. Sometimes it's fun being in those weird fringe places. Well, they've got, you know, their rednecks are called bogans.

Bogans? Bogans. So they're like Crocodile Dundee? Is that a redneck? No, they're more like... They're guys that are into Nitro Circus kind of shit. They'd call them bogans. Nitro Circus?

What does that mean? Nitro Circus is that MTV show with Travis Pastrana. I'm so out of the loop. Motorcycle jumping and all that fucking... So they're just like fucking guys that like to have fun. Adventure seekers. Yeah. A lot of guys in Australia fucking ride motorcycles and they drive utes, which are like pickup trucks.

Australia's a goddamn manly country. Yeah. Extremely. Goddamn manly. What is that about? Is it the prison colony thing? I think it has a lot to do with that. Has to.

Fucking beautiful place, man. Australia is so gorgeous. And I surf down there and the surfers there just crush American surf. Really? Every dude there, you think he's a pro. Really? You'll just go to some guy like, hey, do you surf? And he'll be like, yeah, I do it a little.

And you want to go tomorrow? You'll go the next day and be like, dude, you should be on tour. Really? Fucking all amazing. Well, they love the UFC, man. The UFC sells out there in like 15 minutes time. Every single time we've been there, we've been there twice, but every single time, it breaks records, sells out quicker than anything.

It's fucking nutty. And they love George Sotteropoulos. They're one guy. They got one famous Australian guy. He's a fucking... Greek dude. Yeah, he's a top contender right now in the UFC, too. Nicest fucking guy in the world.

But he's a perfect Aussie, just a fucking savage. They have a real fucking, like, they call them blokes. Like, a guy's a bloke, and they're very blokey, and women complain about it. Like, in Sydney, I always say that, like, you can't even talk to a woman in a bar because the guys have fucked them over so badly. You go up to a girl and be like,

Hi, she'll be like, go fuck yourself, cunt. And you're like, whoa, what did I do? And it's not what you did. It's what the last 20 guys that dealt with her did. So the girls are on the defensive. And because the guys just it's all about your boys. But don't they have a different attitude towards sex in Australia? They're much more permissive, much more.

I would say they're pretty much fucking everywhere. But America, that's one thing you don't realize about America is how I mean, obviously, the They're much more permissive, much more relaxed. I would say they're a lot more promiscuous. Pretty much fucking everywhere but America. That's one thing you don't realize about America is how, I mean, obviously the Middle East is worse unless you're a little boy. But in the Middle East, they love to fuck little boys. That's an awesome time for them. But as far as like European countries, we are so fucked up in comparison to them. Like our whole repression, all that shit, that doesn't exist over there. They're like in Argentina, South America.

Yeah, they're super loose. I've heard, and I don't know how true this is. It was a statistic in Jesus Camp. Do you see that film? Yes. It said two-thirds of America is born-again Christians. No. That's what it said in the beginning of that film. I don't think that's correct. I think probably two-thirds

of the people they talk to are evangelical Christians. You know, finding the numbers for 300 million people, that's so problematic. Not only that, you've got to add in Mexicans, you know, because there's a lot of undocumented people in this country. And who knows how many it is? I mean, I've heard millions and millions in California alone. So who knows how many it is nationwide? millions and millions in California alone. So who knows how many it is nationwide.

So knowing how many people are actually Christians and the evangelical, evangelical Christians or people who believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old, you know, it's the numbers are who the fuck knows what they are. I've heard 51% believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old. 51% believe in a biblical version of the Bible. That's fucked up. Oh,

which by the way, play that fucking clip. Yeah. God, we have to play this clip. Bill O' That's fucked up. Oh, which, by the way, play that fucking clip. I was going to say. Yeah, God, we have to play this clip. Bill O'Reilly, man. Now, by the way, Bill O'Reilly went to fucking Harvard. I think Bill O'Reilly's playing a character. I think you might be right.

I'm almost positive. I think he's very clever as to the kind of shit that he supports. And the way he supports it is so asinine that it's almost like he's trolling. It's almost like a subtle parody. Yeah, here's why I think that. I used to do sports radio in New York City. I was on WNEW, which is the station Opie and Anthony were on and all that. I was the morning show with this guy named Sid Rosenberg.

Sure, I know Sid Rosenberg. I do his show in Miami all the time. Sid's a sports expert. I knew fucking nothing. It was supposed to be like Love Lines Where he was the expert and I was the comedian Right And Sid wanted me to be an expert in sports And I don't give a shit about you know

What fucking guys stats are So did he ask you to like learn the stats No but there was constant conflict between the two of us How long did you work there for Six months and I was like I'm getting the fuck out of here So he was telling you hey read the sports book Yeah and he'd be like did you watch the game last night I'm like no and he's like why not I'm like I didn't fucking want to you know And I'm like just fuck out of here. So he was telling you, hey, read the sports book. Yeah, and he'd be like, did you watch the game last night? I'm like, no.

And he's like, why not? I'm like, I didn't fucking want to. And I'm like, just let me fucking be funny. Yeah, I'll be funny. And he's like, but you've got to be funny about sports. I'm like, no, I don't. I just have to be funny. So, man, that always bugs me when I listen to sports radio.

And they're like, and how about McHenry with the play in the ninth? Does he think that that's going to get his contract extension? But it made me fucking like, because I realized the only way you're going to get ratings and be interesting is I had to basically take on a character. Right. And I would sit there and criticize these athletes and these coaches that I didn't even watch the fucking game. People love to do that, by the way. I wouldn't even watch the game and I'd be like Jim Fossil he's a fucking pussy did you see what he did last night? Did you say fucking pussy?

No no I wouldn't say that but I'd be like he's a I said pussy. I'd go he's a pussy. He's a pussy. And the next thing you know you know all his fans are calling I'm gonna kick your ass man how could you say that? And I would just try to incite people to create radio. Right.

And I watch fucking Bill O'Reilly, and I'm like, he's doing the same shit. There's no possible way. He might be. I definitely think he's playing towards his market. He has a market, and he's concocted this gigantic conglomeration of retards and old people that think that he makes sense. But this is one of the most troll-like things that he's ever said. Brian, check this out. He's talking about the moon.

This is on BillOReilly.com. You can find it on YouTube. Backstage conversation. Backstage with Bill O'Reilly. David, Beverly Hills, Florida. What do you mean when you refer to the tides, when you ask about the existence of God? Science explains the tides,

the moon's gravity pulls on the ocean. Okay, how did the moon get there? How did the moon get there? Look, you pinheads who attacked me for this, you guys are just desperate. How did the moon get there? How did the sun get there? How did it get there? Can you explain that to me? How come we have that and Mars doesn't have it? Venus doesn't have it? How come? Mars has two moons by the way. How'd it get here? How did that little amoeba get here? Crawl out there. How'd it do it? Come on. You have order in this universe. You have an order in the universe. Tide comes in, tide goes out. Okay, yeah, the moon does it. Fine. How'd the moon get there? Who put it there?

Did it just happen? Okay, if we have existence, if we have life on Earth, how come they don't have it on the other planets? Were we just lucky? Some meteor would do this? Come on. You know, I see this stuff, it's desperate. Science is desperate. It takes more faith to not believe

and to think that this was all luck, that all this human body, the intricacies of it and everything else, all luck, than it does to believe in a deity. Is there a possibility? Two things I want you to do right now. Two things I want you to do. Bill O'Reilly scandalous voicemails because he left a bunch of voicemails on his assistant's phone about rubbing her down with a loofah sponge and fucking all kinds of creepy shit. He wanted to pan her off. Don't you think that Bill O'Reilly is the kind of guy that really needs to get really high? Yeah, he needs to do mushrooms. And then he might go,

holy shit. I take back. I take back almost everything I've ever said. Yeah, for sure. He would. Cause it would allow him a different perception that he probably has never entered into.

If he does believe that shit, but it's, I don't know if he does or doesn't. I think he does. And this is why I think he does. I think he does because he's got a tremendous ego. And I think, you know, he's one of those guys that he's, he's saying something all the time. I don't think he would say something all the time unless he believed it. You know, this, this whole thing, I think, you know, I think he's definitely preaching to the choir.

And I definitely think he's, you know, trying to fit a, fit a mold and, and trying to appease his constituents, all the people that listen to his show. But I think it can't be contrary to what he really believes because he's got too big of an ego. For him to be on TV talking about it all the time, eventually he'd implode. He wouldn't be able to deal with that. If he really did have an intelligent argument that was contrary to what we were saying, I don't think he would be saying it on the air. I just think his ego is too big. I don't think he's that genius. He's not Andy Kaufman. He's not some brilliant trickster that's fucking fooling the world.

I think these guys, they start playing a character, and then they sort of like Dice Clay it. They become the character. Yeah. Remember when Dice Clay, do you know Dice Clay used to be Andrew Silverstein? By the way, we're going to try to get Dice on the podcast, too. I'm not hating. I love Dice.

I had a great talk with Dice the other day. Dice's kid is doing comedy. Dice's kid is 20. Wow. And Dice is so proud. And his kid is fucking killing. Is he? His kid's like learning.

Yeah. It's fucking great. What's his name? What's he go by? What's his name, bro? Was it Max? Max? Yeah, I think it was Max.

Is it Max Clay? No, I don't think. Does he go by Silverstein? Anyway, he. Oh, I've seen his name around. Dice used to be Andrew Silverstein. And, he... Oh, I've seen his name around. Dice used to be Andrew Silverstein. And then the Dice Man was like this character that he would do on stage, along with a bunch of other characters.

He would do like Stallone, and he would do De Niro. He would do like all these characters, like all these impressions, and the Dice Man was one of his characters. Well, the Dice Man just became his main character. That became his thing he did on stage. And then it became him offstage. And I think that happens to guys like Glenn Beck. I think what happens is they start out with this character, and they start out, and then

they get all these people, thank you, Mr. Beck, you make me so happy. And what you said about Jesus is so important to me and my family. And what you say about our troops is so important to me and our family. And this guy is soaking in this love, and he's putting out a book every three days, this motherfucker. And all of them are about what's wrong with the left, and he's putting out a book every three days, this motherfucker. And all of them are about what's wrong with the left and what's wrong with society and what's wrong with being godless and what's wrong with this. And Sarah Palin is the only hope for our country.

And then they start fucking believing it, man. Because the human ego, when you're the type of person that's really selling something and pitching something and getting all this adulation for it, if you're an egomaniac, which most people who get into the public eye are, and getting all this adulation for it. If you're an egomaniac, which most people who get into the public eye are, you know, most people, they get into a position where they're like a guy like that, where they have an opinion show, where they're on stage every day talking to people and broadcasting to millions.

They get all this love and fan mail. It's very difficult to be objective about that. You know, it's very difficult to like, you know, have a real honest way of looking at the world. You start looking at it the way they want you to look at it because this is where the love's coming from, you know? And then you start, I mean, Beck turned into a fucking Mormon, okay? As an adult.

Yeah, that's creepy. Who, by the way, obviously, look, you can say he's crazy, and I do, but that guy's got a high IQ. There's no question in my mind. I guarantee you, if you sat that guy down, he's a 120-plus IQ. You know, he's a smart guy. There's no way you can do that in free ball. How do you get into Mormonism? Because he's fucked up. No's a smart guy. There's no way you can do that in free ball. How do you get into Mormonism?

Because he's fucked up. Look, the intelligence and balance are two totally different things. I've met some brilliant people. I don't want to say his name. A guy who used to design my website. Fucking brilliant, but completely insane and totally imbalanced. I know a bunch of people like that that are really, really brilliant people. But, I mean, mathematically brilliant, structurally brilliant,

the way they can break down complex orders in society, but their own life is just chaos. So wait, you're saying Beck is brilliant? Yes, I think he's absolutely brilliant. Brilliant at being a cunt. What he's doing, I think he's a brilliant guy. Maybe manipulation. Yeah, brilliant at manipulation, brilliant at acting, brilliant at playing a part,

brilliant at becoming the perfect version of this guy that all these retards need. Because I don't think it takes intelligence to be a manipulator. What he's doing takes intelligence. He's free-balling every day. He's got a big screen and he's breaking things down. And some of it makes sense. It's like 20 or 30% of it. I go, God damn it, I agree with Glenn Beck.

This is ridiculous. But I think that those guys, when they get to that position where there's an extraordinary amount of success that they achieve in one certain area. I mean, Glenn Beck's house is for sale in Connecticut. And I looked at that shit online. It was fucking giant. And it's probably only for sale because he got a bigger one you know you got a bigger crazier one that guy's selling literally every time I go to the bookstore there's a new Glenn Beck book nobody makes me feel lazier than Glenn Beck because I've been writing this goddamn book for a year and I

can't and Glenn Beck puts out one every 15 days it's fucking insane you know but these guys I really truly believe as a person who's been been affected by fame and been affected like more of, I had to look at my own behavior and analyze it. And, you know, that's one of the reasons why I really got into psychedelics and the isolation tank is because I felt like there was an overwhelming influence that fame and the pursuit of fame has on a person, especially in Hollywood, where you're trying to make things happen, where you can lose yourself in this quest. And I think it happens to a lot of people. So I wanted to kind of analyze it in myself. And it took a long time for me to get a hold of it from like fear factor on. There was like a long time in there where I was like, this is a crazy thing here. Like, how do you make sure that what you're doing is really what you want to be doing? How do you how do you how do you know that, you know, what you're doing is really what you want to be doing. How do you know that what you're doing is not what you think people would like to hear from you or what you think you're going to say and do to get more work and to get more people to like you? I've had

conversations with really successful people where they say, I can't do that because I'm this and that and my image is that and this. Okay, you're not even doing you. You're pretending to be something else just so that you can get more of the positive reaction that you've gotten. That permeates into your real life. But what if that's like, I'm the kind of person I vacillate off and I'll look at one thing and then I'll have a different opinion maybe a year later on how I felt about it. That's called being intelligent.

And as a performer, as a comedian, my act's constantly changing. Sometimes I can't do bits that I used to do because I've changed as a person. I don't feel that way and I can't deliver them with truth. And I'm like, that would suck to fucking be locked into a character. It says we're off the air. It says we're off the air. Ustream keeps on fucking up, but it's on here. It says we're on air.

So it's going off and on and it's choppy for people. But I can't get on right now. It's on. You see it? Yeah, it's on here. It says we're on there. So it's going off and on. It's choppy for people. But I can't get on right now. It's on. You see it? Yeah, it's on. You see it online? What do you see online? We have 13, 17 viewers.

It's broadcasting. It's recording. See if you can see it on a browser. All right. Anyways, who cares? We're talking about, you know. Well, I accidentally unclicked it, and I can't get back to it. Sorry. go ahead.

So people, like, the ability to, like, change while you're, and to get locked into that character would be terrifying for me. I'm a control freak. And if that's where your income, and I don't have the,

you know, I'm lucky enough that I don't have, like, a wife and kids, but imagine if you got into that where then you've got a house and mortgages and schools and you've bought into this character and all of a sudden you've changed as a character and you're like fuck i'm not that guy anymore i don't feel that way i've changed my way of thinking but fuck i gotta i gotta still do that because people do change people either become more conservative as they get older or you know start to realize shit you

know i've become more liberal as i get older. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think as you become more intelligent, you know, you realize that there's a lot more, there's a lot more to things than people like to think. You know, everybody likes to think it's black and white. I have a lot of conservative ideas, a lot of them about gun control, about, about taxes, about a lot of different things. But I also have a lot of liberal points of view too, you know, especially when it comes to things like gay marriage. And, you know, and that to me is one of the most frustrating things when I see people get upset about gay marriage, you know, like as if it's somehow or another fucking affects you of two guys who obviously want to be gay.

No one's got a gun to their head. No one's saying if you're not gay, I'm fucking killing your family. You know, no one's doing that. They're just, they want to be gay. I find the people that are afraid of like, Bro, this shit is offline, man. It's on everyone i can't get on i know i know it's it's having problem you stream you stream has some problems man when there's like you're trying to get on it you have to refresh it a few times whatever it's on though so don't worry about that's crazy i uh i walked out of the

actually it's when i worked with you down in um tampa or i was doing the the early and then you did like friday night and you came in at the Tampa Improv. I came out like my first night. It was like a Wednesday or something. And there are these guys out in the street holding up signs. And it was like almost like that church from Nebraska or wherever, those crazy fuckers that protest funerals. Oh, the God hates fags guy?

And they were holding up signs that God hates fags and blah, blah, blah. And I just walked out. So the audience is out there with me. And I thought, I'm just going to fuck with these people. And I went up to this kid and I'm like, how old are you? And he's like, I'm 16 years old. I'm like, you're 16 and you're, dude, go to an arcade. Go try to get laid.

Go fucking have a life. The fuck's wrong with your parents? Don't listen to your parents. They're assholes. And I'm making everybody laugh, just making fun of this kid. But then I started, some older guy starts yelling at me. And I go, stop you want to cock in your ass so badly what's the old guy yelling that you're here right now because you hate yourself I'm like you want to make it easy

just go suck a cock it's gonna change your whole life you're out here you're doing this shit because you're a homo and you just don't want to admit it. And I'm like, leave them the fuck alone and go join them. You're deep down, you know you're gay. And he's like, you're the devil, you're the devil, you're here to... And I'm like, no, I'm here to help you, dude. Go fucking suck a cock. It's going to change your life. I'm not joking.

The next night I walk out, it's the atheists holding up signs going, know there is no god and god is bad and god created you know there's death and and i go up to them and i go you're just fucking bad yeah just fucking shut up and go fucking have a beer somewhere you're why are you out here with the fuck you've got your own religion of atheism like i get it i get your belief you know i don't believe in any kind of fucking order or anything i don't know what i believe but go away right fucking stop your religion of trying yeah people want to believe anything whether it's they want to believe in republicans they want to believe in god they want to believe in no god i've had arguments with atheists where it's so ridiculous you know like they're saying scientists science disproves the existence of god like no it doesn't science doesn't disprove anything what

science does is it shows it's well first of all statistics and things that can be measured you know how can you measure what happens in the afterlife that's nonsense how can you measure what happened you know what the birth of the universe is and how do you i mean how do we not know that there's something that's far more comp i mean i'm not saying that there's a guy in the clouds with a harp. But what I am saying is that after smoking DMT seven times and doing mushrooms all the times I've done and all the times in the isolation tank, I've seen shit way crazier than a dude with a harp in the clouds. And I've seen it many, many, many times. I think that the idea that you can tell me what does and doesn't comprehend the operating system. She does not have the capability. And I believe that as humans,

that's how we are with the universe. We don't have the fucking capability. We might be the most intelligent species, but we're not intelligent enough to understand something that's so fucking... It doesn't mean anything. It's like being the baddest worm. This worm is so smart.

Look, it knows how to get around this pebble. You know, it's really ridiculous. The idea that we can figure it out. I mean, this is complete and total stoner talk, but the idea that we can figure out the fucking universe, you know. Did you find the Bill O'Reilly stuff? No, it's not on there. It's not a video, bro. It's not a video.

It's an audio, right? Well, I think they just transcribed it. I saw it on Washington Post and stuff, but it just kind of talked about it. Did they have the transcriptions, though? No. Hey, I want to change the subject for a second. Did you have Bobby Lee on here yesterday? Did he get naked for you?

Two days ago. He fucking got on our podcast, and we could not get him to keep his clothes on. Really? Yeah, he was just fucking rubbing his dick on everything. Wow. He is so fucking funny. He was much more sedate. I don't know what you guys fed him over there

uh i think he was you know fucking have you ever told your uh story that you did at the storyteller uh anywhere else other than that show no that was the first time i ever told it you should talk what story is that the the whole uh the whole time you the urban oh the black show yeah you want to tell that story i'm not afraid i. I mean, it's not racist on my part. No, it's not. It's hilarious. You just took a chance. Yeah, I went to SUNY.

It was called SUNY Farmingdale. It was a state university in New York in Farmingdale, Long Island. And my manager at the time, I think I'd only been doing comedy maybe three years, three or four at the most. I was in New York City. And my manager at the time, Jason Steinberg. Do you know Jason? Yes. Jason, and I'm only telling his name because I want to burn him on this.

Okay. Jason, at the time, had mostly black comics. And all his comics were like Def Jam and doing really well, and like some great, great comics. He represented a lot of really good guys. Tony Woods, Greer Barnes, all these guys were doing really well at the time and were big in that like so he was always booking these events for like black shows and i get a i'm begging for work because i don't have any work at the time and i hear him i'm in

his office i hear him go oh oh yeah so you need a comic yeah yeah and it's not a def jam show right you sure yeah okay i think i got the guy. 500 bucks? And I'm like, 500 bucks? Fuck, that's the most I've ever gotten paid for a gig. And I was like, I want this fucking gig. And he goes, all right, you're going out to SUNY Farmingdale. The train takes you right out there. It'll be like a $10 train ride.

He's like, you're the intermission of an auction. And I'm like, what? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Traditionally, this is like an urban room, but it's just this auction. It's going to be like alumni and stuff. And I'm like, all right. I go out there on the way out. Tony Woods.

Do you know Tony Woods? Sure, I know Tony. Tony and I are sharing subway. He's a really good friend of mine. He's going, dog, don't fucking go, dog. They beat up Ralph Harris. They beat him up on stage. And I'm like, what? He's like, they're him up on stage and i'm like what he's like they're

gonna kill you god damn dog don't go so why didn't you listen it's 500 bucks so i go no but it's an auction it's different i'm in the intermission it's an alumni thing right so i go i get there i see the line of people waiting to go in and it's not just an urban show this is fucking like urban tony told me he goes dude bro he goes they're they're caribbean black he's like caribbean black are the guys that they kill me because i'm american black he's like they're gonna fuck you up and i'm like no no no he's like trust me so i see the line of guys going in everybody's gone on fubu you know like jerseys right and timberlands every single dude in the crowd baggy jeans by the way fubu stands for for us by us yeah and i'm like which is you know kind of like separatist as it

is it's pretty funny when joey diaz wears that yeah sure so i go this is how long ago this was i go to the pay phone and all right page jason steinberg and he calls me on the pay phone and i go jason i'm fucking out of here i'm out of here and he goes you're fine you're fine it'd just be funny i'm like no this doesn't look good he goes no you're gonna be fine so i go into the auditorium security goes what are you doing i go i'm the comedian security goes fuck you're the comedian i quit he goes i'm out of here i'm out of here because he knows what's gonna happen so the security guy saw you is it black eye that was yeah yeah and he's just like he just says

fuck this was he serious he's totally serious they call this gig the little apollo oh my god and so i'm like fuck so i go back to the phone i call jason again i go jason i'm leaving i'm leaving i'm just not doing anything i'm gonna die he's. He's like, Eddie, you're funny. He's like, just get up there and do what you do. And I'm like, so I'm so nervous. You know when you're so nervous. There's no chance of you doing well. Right. Awkward.

So I go down and the emcee goes, what do you want to come out to? I had never come out to music before. I'm like, what do you mean? You got any Led Zeppelin? I was like freebird you know like what the fuck like uh my name is michael i'm like puff the magic drag i don't fucking know what and they've got a dj on the side and i'm like and i really come out to well i don't follow any rap music at all especially at that time i came from like a place called fox

chapel and i would come out to fuck the police. I didn't know what that... And at the time, I had this... I wouldn't. I would have been R. Kelly or something. I had this shitty Knight Rider joke. I had this shitty Knight Rider joke about how Kit was gay. It was a gay car. And he was...

Ellen at the time was coming out, and I go, she's not the first gay character. Kit from Knight Rider was gay. And he's like, Michael, Michael, I I'm gonna pick you up in a minute and so I was like I'll do the kit joke and I'll come out to the Knight Rider like rap song by the way get our Kelly the zoo get that pull that shit up yeah I don't know what just don't we'll edit it out later do you need we need this just trust me just pull it up on the side. So I go backstage, and what they're doing is they're auctioning off dates with students from the school. For girls?

For money. Girls and guys. And guys. Like a guy will come out, and all the dudes are backstage lifting, pumping up, doing push-ups, and they've got dumbbells. So they're getting a pump. So they look swole. And they're putting baby oil all over their bodies and taking their got dumbbells so they're getting a little swole and they're putting baby oil all over their body taking their shirts off and they're black as tar yeah and they are no one ever making black everyone's ignoring me like what the fuck are

you doing back here oh my god and I swear to God I grabbed one of the bottles of rum that they're drinking and I just start chugging rum because I'm terrified. I just start sculling down this rum and I saw one chick there, the one white chick, and I'm like, she's really fucking hot. So they're auction dates with the guys and the girls. The guys will come out, they'll just flex and everybody will bid and then the girls will come out and do a striptease act. They'll bring a guy out, put him in a chair and grind on him and do like a lap dance.

Jesus Christ. Pour whipped cream and do all this shit, you know, and they'll go crazy. But they're bidding. They get dinner at Puff Daddy's restaurant. P. Diddy had a restaurant in New York. They get dinner at his place. They get a limo ride to New York and a Broadway show if they win the date. And they're bidding.

And I swear to God, dates are going for like $7. Wow. I'm watching. Do i hear five no way sold did you bid could you bid no no and i'm looking at the hot fucking white chick going i want a bid well backstage this and she has to go out on a date with the guy yeah yeah the guy's just disgusting well this is where it gets creepy so the finale i'm gonna be the intermission then the finale's this black stripper and she comes up to me and she's like hey you're the comedian i'm like yeah she's like my name's heaven and i'm like hey heaven that's awesome and so we start talking she goes you're gonna stick around and bid on me and i'm like and she thinks i'm like

this professional you know rich comedian and i'm to be able to bid a lot of money on her. Is that because you told her that? I don't know. I'm like, I can't think about her. She starts talking to me. Just let me get a little taste. I actually said to her, get away from me, because I was so scared,

because all the guys were checking her out, and I'm like, I just don't want any problems here. So you thought you were going to get problems because you were talking to the black chicken from a black house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're giving you the mad dog look. So I'm just like, I'm just going to fucking... so has anybody said anything to you any guys no one they've just white fear they've yeah no one's been negative you got you gotta understand i grew up in a place

where there was like my high school probably had like one black guy and you know his last name was huxtable and uh right we i ran track all through college and i was a sprinter but i was separate like i didn't hang i hung out with like my white friend and I wasn't so like when I moved to New York and I started to become friends with all the black comics it was like a total new world for me but this was like putting me in I was out of my comfort zone

so what's your opening line my opening line I miss my cue to go out and they're yelling for me oh god and I've rewritten all my jokes. You know, when you do that. I was panic. Yeah.

And I go out. This is not good. I'm not confident in this. And I like stumble, almost trip onto stage. And they're all ready. The emcee had been going, where my dog's at?

And guys were, woo, woo, woo. And they're running to the front of the stage when he does it and all putting their hands up in the air. And I come out and I go,

hey, oh, what happened before I came out? They auction off the white chick. Right. The bidding goes up to like $350. And every black chick in the place is about to fucking rush the stage. Anger and stab her. And I'm like, there's going to be a riot in here.

And I'm like the other white guy. So I'm going down with her. What are the black girls saying? They're pissed off. They're screaming. And they're going, you know, do I hear? And so intermission happens. They call me out. And I think my opening line,

I think I said something about they're going to be a riot when they were bidding on the white chick. And I go, you know, I was like, and I get a little bit of a laugh. And there was some creepy dude that was like an older dude who was bidding. White guy or black guy? Black guy.

I said it was like a pedophile. And they kind of laughed at that. And then I said, you guys, what are you doing with auctions? Didn't you learn your lesson with auction years ago? And I think it's kind of funny. And I think like I'm going to get a laugh, like like kind of like, oh, he's an insult. And I hear like, oh, and all of a sudden another who and I wasn't quick enough to keep going. And I just paused.

I paused and then you let them just leap on you started building. It was like a wave of booing to where it started to like, get this motherfucker off the stage. And people start throwing shit. And I swear to God, i hear get that fucking wait get your white motherfucking ass off the stage before i kick your white motherfucking ass and i'm like standing there and i'm i'm kind of like in this like all of a sudden i get hit in the head with a cup a crumpled up coke cup and it pisses me off and i go who the fuck threw that who and I don't know why but you know you get that rage and it's like all this shit's happening to me I'm like a dog that's been

right so much I just start biting everyone right I go who the fuck who the fuck threw that and some guy goes I did I go fuck you you want to throw something come on fucking throw something at me oh fuck the kid starts running towards the stage and there are fold-out chairs in the front he picks one of them up and throws it on the stage and i'm like at that moment i go i'm gonna fucking die like i and they're pulling cushioning out of the seats and throwing it at me and they're booing so loud now here's what's hilarious about eddie ift this is what he says to me when he tells me the story at the beginning of the day he goes now if now, if it happened today, I'd totally be able to be fine with it. He's like, I'd totally be able to make it funny.

Comedians always want to think that I have some ruthless bombs in my past, and I have gone over these bombings and said, man, if I could just go back and redo it. There's one time I bombed after Jim Brewer. It was the worst bomb of my entire career. It was devastation. I think I've talked about this before.

I don't remember if I talked about it on the podcast, did I? Yeah, I think so. Brewer, we worst bomb of my entire career. It was devastation. I think I've talked about this before. I don't remember if I talked about it on the podcast. Did I? Yeah, I think so. Brewer, we worked together all weekend and I could barely follow him. This is like, I'd only been doing comedy maybe three years, maybe three or four years, and he was just too strong to be a middle and I really wasn't a headliner. I was a fake headliner. I could do 45 minutes, but I had to tell my joke

slow. You know what I mean? So when he was on stage and he used to, Brewer used to do this bit about going home and he was being, he was hammered and his mother turned into a demon and it was like really loud and really animated. And he was just, you know how sometimes a dude just gets in the zone. And Brewer used to get in these crazy zones, man. I used to really enjoy watching him perform because he could just,

just his physical performance his physical you know his his his presence on stage yeah fuck he just would nail it and this is one time man we had been doing all weekend so we'd done two shows friday one show saturday this was a late show saturday and brewer just knocks it out of the park and there was a bunch of shit going wrong in my life at the time one i just torn my acl so it was for the first time in my life i couldn't work out. I've never not worked out. So I had all this tension that I didn't know how to deal with. You know, like for me, my whole body from the time I was like, you know, 14 years old to the time I was, this would happen when I was 22 or 23. My body had been designed just to fucking, to constantly

be working, constantly be exerting all this energy, whether it was in kickboxing or wrestling or something. It was like this constant, and that was the only way I coped with stress. That was gone, okay? And I had moved from New York to Boston, so no ACL. It blows out. Moved to New York, or from Boston to New York. I have no friends. I don't know anybody there.

I'm living with my grandfather and my grandmother. My grandmother was dying of an aneurysm. She had an aneurysm. They gave her 72 hours to live. She lived for 12 years. Okay. And I'm staying in their old house that they bought in 1945 in Newark, New Jersey, which is now in a war zone. I mean, while I'm there, the next door neighbor's door gets broken down with a battering ram. They arrest him for selling crack. I mean, no joke, man. It was a scary, scary neighborhood. It used to be an Italian neighborhood. Then it

went just total chaos. So I'm staying in the house and grandma like she she she died both of them are dead now but back then she um she couldn't move she was completely paralyzed she would get bed sores and she could feel some things and sometimes she would just let out these soul like almost like she was emptying herself of the pain and the only way to do it was to let out this horrible screech so i'd be in the house and i'd be like wandering around maybe i'd go to the kitchen and grab something to eat out of here it was like an animal like a wounded animal she couldn't die it just she like was so resilient she She had those Italian peasant jeans. And she was just so fucked up, but yet she hung in there for like 12 years.

So I'm living in this house, right? And I just broke up with my girlfriend and my manager. God bless him. Great guy. But it was back in the day where we talked about when you're not doing so well, then everybody has advice for you. And his advice was, you should dress nice. You're a good looking guy. You should dress nice on stage.

So my stupid ass, I'm wearing these like nice pants and a nice belt and like a club shirt that you would go out clubbing. And I had a nice head of hair back then. It was delicious. And I'm wearing shiny shoes and shit. And I just look like the fucking biggest asshole. I just look like some club shithead, some goofy Italian cunt that's 22 years old that doesn't know anything about the world. Right. And I'm on stage and, and I, I fucking, I am panicking. I remember Brewer got off stage and the MC was about to bring me up and I was

off stage when Brewer came up. And, uh, I remember he said, he said, Hey, have fun up there. Have fun. They're great. And I go, I'm going to fucking eat it. I remember saying it to him. Like, dude, I'm not fucking confident right now. I'm not feeling good right now. Oh, you'll be fine. You'll be fine. And I just was not prepared. I just went up there and I went into flames. Just went into flames.

One girl, I remember a girl in the audience, she goes, I was just eating dick up there. And I was editing my material and chopping the jokes as I go along. And one girl goes, you're kind of hot, but you're not funny. And there's nothing you can say when you know that that's true not that i'm kind of hot but that i'm not funny and another guy goes you fucking suck you fucking suck he's this big meathead guy snap nothing i could say he was right i fucking sucked i knew i fucking sucked there's nothing i can do and i was supposed to do 45 minutes i wound up doing like 30 i got a few laughs i started getting a few laughs but they were so shaky it was just

the worst set ever the worst bombing ever and i still to this day will go back in my head and that's fucking 20 years ago this my gig still to this day the worst one i've ever had and you go back and you like replay it over in your head okay i could have said this the heat that goes through your body when you're bombing there's like people don't understand when you're bombing there's a there's a hot like flash you almost get hot flashes. So I'm having it when the guy threw the, the, the, the, that knocked me out of my aggression. When the chair came up onto the stage, I was like, okay, I'm not going to fight a crowd. And, uh, and I got to get the fuck out of here.

The girl on the side of the stage that, that booked me is going, get off, get off. booked me is going get off get off and I think this is I was supposed to do like 40 minutes and I think I'm at 45 seconds or something or four minutes I forget it was so short she's going get off get off and I go this is how badly I wanted the money I go where's my check oh my god from the stage but no one could hear me even the microphone, they were booing that loud. I just looked to the side. I go, where's my check? I go, am I still getting paid? And she's like, yes. Yes. And I went, no, I want to see the check.

I want to make sure. While you're on stage? Because I always was under this impression like you have to do your time to get paid. And they're getting me off before my time. So are they going like not pay me so i want that 500 and i'm going i was willing to stand up there for 35 more minutes and take the abuse i wanted the money so badly and don't you think though that you learn so much about those about your your comedy from bombing don't you think that it's like the ultimate yeah it's the

ultimate school fuck yeah and i right then i said uh i go uh let me see the checks they went and got the check that's it that's why i was up there four and a half minutes they had to go get the check come back and then you got off stage i get off stage and they rush me out the back door like people around me because they're afraid a riot's gonna start we go out the back door the stri is waiting there. And she's smoking weed with a couple guys out there. And she goes, hey, where are you going? And I'm like, you didn't see what just fucking happened? She goes, yeah, that was some bullshit. And I'm like, so she goes, stick around, though.

You know, and bid on me. I go, are you fucking kidding me? Stick around and bid on me. Are you fucking kidding me? Do you think they would have let it go? The audience members would have forgotten. I don't know. But I got her phone number. She gave me her phone number phone number she's like give me a call sometime and i get in

a car do you remember this is like 1997 or 98 that this happened or whatever the guy drives me to the train station in a tr7 nice in it and it's this little black triumph and he's so fucked up he's been drinking so much rum and he's driving like 100 miles an hour. And I'm going, because he wants to get back. And I'm like, dude, slow the fuck down. You're going to kill us. And he goes, man, you suck. He's like, you are terrible.

And I'm like, shut the fuck up. And he's like, no, man. I've seen comedians. You're the worst I've ever seen. And he's driving me to the train station telling me how bad I am. And he's a black dude yeah and i get on the train it was the most racist i've ever been in my life because i'm just looking at every black person like blaming them for what happened but i can imagine living your whole life like

that welcome to being but i get home and at the time i was living with people constantly fucking with me so i mean it was like the river i i learned right then that was a great learning experience i get home i'm living with my sister at the time. And this goes back to answering machine time. People had answering machines and no cell phone. Well, I must have called the stripper. I don't even remember calling the stripper, but I must have. Because my grandfather dies.

And we're on the way to my grandfather's funeral. We had already just done the viewing or whatever when you go then from church and you go to the cemetery right we're going to the cemetery i mean my dad had one of those like he had a cadillac i remember with a car phone built into the car nice and it's my dad my mom and like two of my sisters and me and uh uh my sister decides to check her voicemail uh the answer machine at home, and puts it on speaker. And she listens to the stripper. And I swear to God, it comes on and goes,

it's like next message, beep. Hi, Eddie. This is Heaven, the stripper you met out at SUNY Farmingdale. She calls herself a stripper. I'm just returning your call. And my sister looks at me and goes, at Pap-Pap's funeral. That's what his name was? Pap-Pap?

She goes, really? At Pap-Pap's funeral. That's hilarious. That's great. Don't you think, though, that your comedy makes these big leaps after these horrible, disastrous bombings? Yeah, you absolutely have to go through it. I get fired up even if I see a bad review online. I'll read 10 great reviews of a show that I was at,

and then one guy says, I'm still waiting for my first laugh. Fucking suck. And I just get a little anxiety like, man, I gotta work harder. But see, one bad one will... I think that shit's good for you. I really do.

I'm different, and I don't want to blow smoke up your ass but i like i've said i need good comics to inspire me and i see so much shit comic and i saw you one night working out and i was like fuck fuck he's going deep he's going deep and he's not afraid and he's fucking like when you're doing the monkeys we're just a bunch of monkeys on a rock spinning through and i'm like fuck and i just went fuck i gotta go home and write fuck like like one of those like that's awesome i said to you after the show i go fuck you and i i like had to hurry home and start like just like and i like to watch really good comic like i'm one of

these comics i love when i get to pick my middle act i love to bring the best fucking comedian i can bring dude i go on the road with joey diaz and does he just joey diaz is the funniest guy that's ever walked the face of the earth. I've never laughed more at anybody ever in my life. 23 years of being a comic. Have you ever met anybody funnier than Joey?

No, I mean, it's like a cartoon. He's just explosive with energy. He just makes you happy. He's just ridiculous. He makes you funnier, too. He makes me funnier.

I'm funnier when I work with Joey. I feel better. Yeah, that's how the dude Brian McCarthy is. I feel the same way. But what you said, like I saw Dave Chappelle once at the comedy store and I feel the same way But what you said Like I saw Dave Chappelle

Once at the comedy store And I felt the same way I want to go home and write I'm totally inspired By great comics too Like I saw Louis At the improv in Hollywood Louis C.K.

And I wanted to go home And write It was a really great performance And Norton recently I saw Norton at Cap City In Austin Fucking great Same feeling

I want to go write But I also get inspired By people who don't like me. Yeah? Yeah, even fucking haters online. I can get a million people who love me. Dude, it's the greatest fucking show I've ever seen. It's amazing. And one person who's like, fucking hang it up, stick to UFC.

I'll go, oh, what, bitch? I'll get fired up. I have to zone them out. Work harder. It's good to zone them out, but it's good to be humble. I really believe, I mean, it's a bad feeling to have someone negatively critique your work. It's a terrible feeling, but I think there's something to it that's good for an artist. There's something that keeps you sort of humble and balanced,

especially in this direct adulation relationship that you have with an audience. You're immediately giving them what they want to hear, and they immediately laugh, and they tell you how much they love you. I mean, you can get imbalanced by that. You can get lazy. I mean, we both know comics that got fucking super, super lazy. And one of the reasons is, like, you know, they're not, for whatever reason, there's not enough balance, you know?

They got to a point where it was too easy for them, too many people being nice to them, and they just lose it. You know, Chris Rock once had a really important thing that I read. Where he was talking about how he bombed really hard once. Going on after Martin Lawrence. Martin Lawrence, which I did too, by the way. A bunch of times at the Comedy Store. When I was on Hardball.

The show that nobody ever saw on Fox. I would go on after a lot of guys at the Comedy Store. Mitzi Shore, God bless her, did a tremendous amount for me early in my career. And one of the things that she did for me, she always put me on the most devastating comedians in the night right on after them. Like Dice Clay, I went on after Dice Clay a hundred times. Richard Pryor, I went on after Richard Pryor when he was in a wheelchair, when he couldn't even talk for five weeks.

Every time Martin Lawrence would have a set, this is back when Martin Lawrence had that TV show, he was a fucking destroyer. had never seen an aston martin either martin lawrence was in the the back parking lot with an aston martin i was like what the fuck is this thing like me and a couple other comics like circling around i was driving a volkswagen scirocco i was like scratching my chin like what the fuck is this man this thing's crazy and martin would just devastate the main room i mean devastate when martin lawrence was in his prime that guy does not get enough respect because if you go back and watch like some of his old stand-up he's just fucking funny and that show martin

dude that show is the writing was like non-existent but he carried the whole show with all his characters and he pretended to be women he's fucking funny yeah i would be backstage same just like the brewer night i mean at least i've been past the brewer thing like it happened like a couple years before that so i had like recovered i knew how to like get out of the gate strong but it's 90 black audience you know and i'm just just ready to go on after him and he's crushing crushing and then he's like who's coming up next you know he has to bring me up so martin law Lawrence brings me up. You know, he calls over to the piano guy.

Piano guy says, Joe Rogan. And he goes, all right, y'all, give it up for this next comedian, Mr. Joe Rogan. Very nice guy, says, and I just go up and eat a bag of shit, of just a big manure bag that you would buy like at a fucking farm depot, you know, just filled with shit.

I'm just chewing up there. And people are getting up in droves and leaving but all that stuff makes you way better it makes you a way better comic because you realize you don't ever want to make that feel that feeling it's like you feel the fire behind your feet and it makes you run faster like you're only going to run a certain amount when you're not pushed you know i feel like it's funny like sometimes i just go i'm shit i suck now blah blah blah but i don't realize that i don't have the ability to bomb like that anymore i mean it can happen in a bad situation now like something really fucked up happening

but like i used to have to new york you know million times esty used to do at the cellar she just wait and put you up after the hardest person to to make sure you were ready for it i had to follow a tell forever every night in the cellar and that's how i got so dark because a tell would just his jokes were so amazing and so dark too that it was like i had to go to a darker place than him right you almost have to like pick up the frequency where he leaves it off and i remember just bombing so bad in the cellar that i would just start start just like what's fucking freestyling just saying the worst things i could say like talking about killing babies and shit like trying to get out of this horrible hole that i would just shock the fuck out of the audience it never works and it was like that never works it was almost like if you go into a zone though, of like, I'm going to pretend like they're

not here and I'm just going to just keep saying this shit. And hopefully they're going to come around because this is so painful. Right. I'm in this terrible, terrible bomb. But I mean, I had like, I used to, I watched you on, what was it? Any evening at the Caroline's comedy hour. That's where I saw you first when I was like a little kid that I didn't even do comedy. And I'm like watching you and you were dirty.

I remember you and Sarah were on it and Sarah was dirty. And so as a little kid, I'm like watching you, and you were dirty. I remember you and Sarah were on it, and Sarah was dirty. And so as a little kid, I'm like, these are good comics. These two. These are comedians. It was so hard for me back then to even come up with seven minutes of material that I could do on TV. I would have to sit down and go over my shit. I was like, God, I can't do that bit. I can't do this bit.

I might have had an hour of material. I might have had five I could do on TV. But I couldn't imagine you bombing because of the way your act was. Like you had the confidence and the dirtiness and everything. So I was like, this guy can't bomb. It's not. So you probably had a lot less bombs than I've had. Wow. Well, yeah, I think, well, you know, I've had a bunch, man. I don't know about that. I don't know how many you've had, but especially at the store, I had a gang of them in the early days when, when I was going on after, you know, like really good comics over and over and over again. I had a, I had a quite a few bombings, but the early days were way worse. The open mic days were fucking brutal

because you're really not supposed to be up there talking. You're really not good enough. And then look, Brian, um, has been doing standup. He's been doing open mic nights just for a short period of time. so you're in that kind of zone area where you're learning it and figuring it out you're in that stage of your life where sometimes you know i've seen you go on stage and you're trying out a new joke and it just doesn't work and you're just fucked you know you're just stuck in this rut you know you're right there right now right well i had a horrible thing the other day where somebody i knew uh was sitting in the front row.

And they thought, oh, this is awesome. I could talk to Brian while he's on stage. And so the whole time she's just making me go, meow, meow. Like that. Or I said something like, oh, I just broke up with my ex. I hate that bitch. And she's like, oh, whatever. You're not over her.

And said it loud enough where it kept on fucking me up. And then it just throws you fucking me up and then it just throws you off and i felt it i felt i felt way off my tracks you know but i didn't i never feel i haven't really felt like bomb where you gave me anxiety except because i had to go on afterwards and i was like this bitch gonna talk to me right fuck she gonna talk to me too like yeah but i don't want to i don don't want to. I'd rather not. People always say, oh, you're so good with hecklers, you must love it when people talk shit.

No. I want everybody to have fun. I don't want to have to ruin someone's mind. The Bob Hope joke, one that I've talked a few times on the podcast before, when I did that and I was booed and hissed, I took off comedy for five years. It's a funny joke.

Bob Hope died. He goes, did you hear bob hope died yeah they're gonna fly out his body to entertain all the dead troops that's hilarious it was the day he died though and it was like right during like you know after post-war can i say what my favorite joke of yours is the ones you're doing right now okay about your dog all right he goes uh i have a bunch of cats and dogs from other relationships. It's like whenever we break up I keep their cat. I keep their dog He goes and they all have the same personality as the girls that I was dating

It's really funny like all of them hate it when I come in their face There's a community and Chris Wayne house from Australia, I think he's a Kiwi but he lives in Australia He's really dark and really funny really good. What's a Whoa, whoa, what's a Kiwi? New Zealander. Oh. And his name's Chris Wainwright. I should have known that. And he writes jokes. He writes a ton.

On Twitter, I don't know his name on Twitter but he writes tons of jokes all the time. He did a joke about the crocodile hunter the day the crocodile hunter died and somebody in the audience

yells out, too soon! And he goes, too soon? I would have done that joke on the fucking boat. I said something about the crocodile hunter when he died and i actually felt bad about it and the reason why i felt bad about it but some you know what i said was uh uh i go he dies i go my act gains 10 minutes i don't see the loss you know that's what i wrote on a message board

and i just you know flippantly you comics, we all say shit like that just to fuck with each other. Like, have you ever done the Opie and Anthony show? No, never done it. Great fucking show. And it's everyone tries to say that, like, Louis C.K. will say the meanest shit to Norton who will say the meanest shit to Opie. They say the meanest shit back to, but it's not real.

It's like you're trying to get laughs. And someone said, you know, hey, man, this guy has like a family and children. What if his children read that? And I went, oh, shit. And I thought about it. I'm like, OK, I don't even really think that okay i don't even really think that i don't even really believe right and i was really mad at myself because i would have totally written a crocodile hunter bit if it wasn't for the fact that i felt bad that i wrote that i said that which was like very short-sighted

and it wasn't really even funny it was just like a quick easy cheap like jibe and i thought about i said god damn it i fucked myself out of a good Crocodile Hunter bit. Because, for sure, that's like right up my alley. You know, like, I'm fucking, no one's more fascinated by predatory animals than me. And when a dude who fucks with animals his entire career, look, it's a snake!

I've got a man in his hand! When a guy like that fucking gets killed by an animal, I mean, there's a fucking wealth of material there i said in australia in australia i said before he died uh i watched the show i go i i they all think america loves the crocodile hunter they think we all most of us do but it wasn't because they're not as into him as we are really no not at all yeah they all kind of think he's a freak and they're not that do freak Do Australians have a thing about Australians

Who become famous somewhere else It's called tall poppy syndrome They try to cut down the tall flower Yeah because Jeffries was pissed Because he would go back to Australia And people wouldn't buy tickets to his show He's like I've got a fucking HBO special That's my worst Jeffries accent ever

He doesn't have a lot to complain about right now Things are going well Oh he's going great But my joke was i'm watching the show i go i admit i watch the show and i watch it every day hoping every day will be that day because it's gonna happen right you know you put your head in fucking crocodile's mouth enough right and then when he died you know it was like a funny joke everyone used to laugh at it then when he died my my agent over in aust called me and goes, mate, you're fucked.

I go, what? He goes, they're playing your clip on the radio. And I was like, oh, no. So they were playing it like these two DJs were playing at this one station. They thought it was kind of funny just playing my bit over and over. So I thought, oh, this is fucking, I'm dead. I'm dead. In America, you know, I would have gone into hiding.

Yeah, but not so. Aussies wrote to me like mate you're fucking you're fucking champion mate we're listening it's fucking hilarious and i was like i want to go to australia more these guys are fucking they're fun man you know what i love they call you a legend yeah legend champion and a legend they'd say that in england all the time you're a legend mate you're a legend you're a legend mate all right speaking of legend before we get out of here i I found the Bill O'Reilly thing and I gotta read it because it's so fucking ridiculous. Whenever you think about Bill O'Reilly, no matter what, you think about his opinions, this is what you need to

know. And this is some fucking voicemail that he left from some woman. Her name was Andrea McCarris and she sued him for sexual harassment. And this is what he goes, you would basically be in the shower and then I would come in and you would have your back to me and I would take the loofah thing and kind of soap up your back, rub it all over you, get you to relax, hot water. And

you know, you'd feel the tension drain out of you and you'd still be with your back to me. And then I would kind of put my arm. It's one of those mitts, one of those loofah mitts, you know? So I got my hand in it and I would put it around in front, kind of rub your tummy a little bit with it. And then my other hand would start to massage your boobs, get your nipples really hard. Cause I like that. And you have really spectacular boobs. So anyway, I'd be rubbing your big boobs and getting your nipples really hard, kind of kissing your neck from behind, and then... Is it wrong that I have a boner right now?

Yes, it is. And then I would take the other hand with the falafel thing. The falafel? I don't know what that means. And just put it on your pussy but you'd have to do it real light. Just kind of a tease business. What a fucking goofy

guy. Any chick is going to hear that and go, oh yeah, loofah spice. That's what I was just thinking. Who's going to get off on this shit? Old broken people. He's like trying to romance her. I'm like, can I choke you? Falafel like a Jewish food? Falafel?

Falafel is Middle Eastern food, but I don't think that's what he meant. I want a sloppy with some hummus. A falafel thing? That's not what he meant. I want a sloppy with some hummus. A falafel thing? That's not what he meant. I want to shove some chickpeas up your pussy. I think he just used the wrong word maybe. I don't know.

But understand that this is the kind of human being you're dealing with. And all this shit that you see in the public eye is just nonsense. You know, it's just what we said before, that people, when they become famous and they get adulation, they start all of a sudden believing the bullshit. They believe their own hype. It's step one to losing it all. like r kelly and his fucking zoo song you got that bitch yeah you want to play at the end yeah so we can cut it out at the very end yeah let's cue it up cue it up and we'll play it at the very end do you know the angelica houston i think it's her that said it she goes uh uh i go by the the motto never pick it up never put it down like if you don't take the adulations you you can't take the criticism.

Like focus on yourself. Don't focus on like what other people say. And I try to do that. But you can learn from people though. But when you walk out of a show and people, you're great, you're great. That's just your opinion because you're going to hear you suck too. Right. And so that way I don't take the you're great.

I just go, oh, thanks. But I don't let it soak in because otherwise I'm going to read every movie. You know what I like hearing? I like hearing we had a great time. That's what I like hearing. I don't want to hear you're great. I mean, if you think that, thank you very much. I'm trying.

I'm working hard. Keep going. I do it all for whoever likes to see the comedy. That's what I'm doing it for. I mean, I think you alter your motivation as you get older and as you get more successful and as you kind of get a better understanding of what you're doing as an artist. And I think initially I just wanted to get laughs. I just wanted to – for me.

I wanted to prove that I could be good at this. I wanted to get some success. I wanted to do it for me. But then once you get the success, then it has – you have to change. Your rational or your – rather your motivation has to change. your rational or your, rather, your motivation has to change. And it has to become, in order to stay good and to stay relevant, you have to, it has to become about the art.

You have to be obsessed with creating good stuff. You have to be obsessed with doing something that people are going to enjoy, those pops of brilliance when a new bit comes to life. Did you go through a change, though? Because I remember, like, when I watched you when I was younger, and I was like, oh, I liked you because at that point in my life, I was into, like, I wanted to hear, like like tits and ass and fucking pussy and that's to me you were that kind of comic yeah and evening of the improv was guys with their sleeves rolled up going what's the deal with and you were going you know fuck that pussy yeah and uh well I was a

savage and then you think about how I got into stand-up comedy I was a fucking kickboxer but then you change totally now you do this kind of intellectual type material that's like you know like what you talk about now well when i was 21 i'm still have a million dick jokes but when i was 21 i had nothing to say about anything else i had no opinions i had no opinions on society i had no opinions on life i didn't think about religion at all except it scared me you know because i went to catholic school when i was little all i thought about when i was 21 was pussy yeah that is all i was a fucking savage that's all i thought about i was here i was um a former martial arts teacher and fighter who is now a professional comic and i was making my living working in bars and doing stand-up and trying to

make girls like me i mean that's what i was doing yeah and all i was obsessed with yeah and all i was obsessed with was fucking and people would say that, like, your act is all about sex. And why is your act all about sex? Um, cause I'm fucking 22 and my hormones are blasting inside of my body, like a broken fire hydrant slamming against the walls of my heart. Like, what are you talking about? That's all I'm thinking about. I don't know anything else. I had no opinions. I could say sex jokes on stage and people could laugh. You know why? Because these are things that I was actually thinking about. So I had actual humorous points of view on it. And people would say, well, you're acting so

dirty. Well, am I supposed to not talk about what I'm obsessed with? Should I talk about what you're obsessed with? I guess I should have balance. I mean, it did go through a long time where, you know, especially if I do like a half an hour set, it was too much sex talk. It was like, I was like enough already, dude, you must have something else, you know, how many cumshot jokes can you have, you know, but it's, I, as I got older, then I started, you know, looking at the world and, you know, then, you know, actually thinking about things and then actually forming opinions and, you know, and deeply considering those opinions before I ever thought about taking them to the stage. I mean, I had opinions about things for years and years before I ever tried to like put them in a humorous situation. It was just, you know, a matter of

developing as a human being, but you know, as your motivation changes and as your perception changes, I mean, it's just, you, you just mature, you grow, you think about things. Now, but as your audience, your, your, your UFC audience, the guys that are like MMA guys and like that kind of stuff, are they on the same mindset as you now with your kind of material? Dude, you'd be amazed, first of all, about UFC fans. First of all, the broad spectrum of UFC fans. There's some fucking brilliant, intelligent UFC fans. fence i've met some people in the mixed martial arts business whether they're trainers or competitors or you know people who just just do it you know as a hobby or involved in a management aspect fucking brilliant people who are huge fans of the sport you know i met a bunch of them are really like the guys who own the ufc they're fucking smart people man yeah they're not cavemen

i mean dana white's crazy and he swears a lot and stuff but he's a fucking really introspective like a very considerate and compassionate person. Like these guys, like Dana White recently saved some Thailand girl. There was a girl who needed to like, I believe it was liver surgery. And she, she was the daughter of a trainer at Tiger Muay Thai. Somebody put a thread about it on the underground that this girl's going to die unless she gets this, this surgery within like the next eight weeks. Dana White fucking paid for all of it. You know, he's like one of those guys. He's not an asshole.

He's not a meathead. He's a really good dude. These people that everybody looks at like cage fighting fans and they think of, oh, they must be assholes with skulls on their shirts. Yeah. A lot of them are. But a lot of them aren't. And even in the assholes with skulls on their shirts, they can be led.

Everybody can look at things in a more fun, friendly way. Well, I'd imagine that like cage fighters to themselves are kind of perfectionist kind of guys. And like, what was that thing? I text you one day and asked you about the quote about if you can do one thing well, you can do. Yeah, Miyamoto Musashi.

That's why I got this tattoo. See that shit? Musashi versus a tiger? I do that CrossFit stuff. And all the guys I do CrossFit with are obsessive comp, and very intellectual. You find these guys are great athletes and you would think they're just dumb fucking, you know, can climb a rope and fucking power lift, you know, deadlift 500 pounds. But you start finding out they know everything about nutrition and then everything about this.

And then it goes. And discipline. It translates into. Dumb people are not disciplined. Right, right. Dumb people can work hard if they're like in a football camp and the coach is screaming at you every day. Or, you know, if you have to, you know, you're in the army or something like that. But when you have to motivate yourself to go to the gym and you have to motivate yourself to buy the proper nutrition and that takes

intelligence, it takes a certain amount of discipline. Yeah. So I've seen that these mixed martial arts I've said, cause I would say that them, the guys that, that do fight and are really into it are probably good fans that really get all your material and, and get into like the intellectual shit. But I'm thinking like the average guy that likes to sit at home and goes, Hey, you know, I just want to see some fucking blood. You know, like, yeah. Does he come to your show and be like, tell me a dick joke. Yeah, there's that.

But you know what, man, I, I make sure I try very hard to make sure that my jokes are first and foremost funny. You know, whatever my point of view is on something, it has to be it has to be digestible to a lot of people. Like there's some weird shit that I might think is funny that if I had an audience filled with, you know, only like guys like you or Duncan or, you know, someone who's like a very smart person that's, you know, of a certain age. I could talk to about almost anything. I would do different material. Yeah, yeah.

If it was just you guys, you know. But to an audience full of a bunch of people. First of all, I want everybody to have fun. You know, I want like a joyous, fun, festive atmosphere. I want it to be like an hour-long party, you know. And a party filled with ideas and thoughts. And then you know that I'm not coming from these, coming from a place of ego.

I'm not an egomania. I'm coming from a place of, let's just figure this out. Let's try to put this all together. It's not me. It's not about me. It's about these ideas. It's about fun.

It's about having a good goddamn time up there. Yeah. So it's the ideas, but I've got a lot of weird shit in my act about time travel and the Large Hadron Collider. And there's some shit that... Sometimes when I'm on stage, I go, God damn, I'm taking these motherfuckers down a fucking twisty road here. I hope they're with me.

I hope they're with me when the punchlines come. Because it might have been like, you know, after five minutes of Large Hadron Collider rant, when I get to the end, they're like, what the fuck is he talking about? People are taking notes. I better go home and read about this shit. fuck is he talking about? People are taking notes. I better go home and read about this shit. I think, you know, I initially, I sort of, you know, did comedy

just to try to get laughs. And this is what I always say, that there's like a bunch of different stages of comedy. I think the first stage is you do anything you can to get a laugh. You know, I mean, I'm sure you've said some hacky lines in your life that you're embarrassed about. I mean, I look back the last time, I think in 1997 or no, earlier than that. I mean, I look back the last time, I think in 1997 or 90, no, earlier than that.

I was on news radio, though. It was like 95, 96. I told some woman, hey, I don't come to your job and slap the dicks out of your mouth. I couldn't believe I still used that. Like in 90, I used it one time. It was in Montreal at the Comedy Works. Some chick said something. And right after I said it, I'm like, man, really?

You didn't even dig into your bag. You just grabbed the most obvious, stupid, hacky line. I still think about that to this day. You know, I think initially you're just trying to get laughs. And then once you get good, then it goes from what makes me laugh, you know, instead of just trying to make anybody laugh with like a tool. Like I have a hammer. Look at my hammer. I'm going to hit the nail.

Dong. Then it becomes your perspective. It's like it becomes, you know, this is that this actually is funny to me. And then it becomes how do you make someone laugh with your opinions on things? Like what are your unique points of view that you can somehow or another turn into comedy? So to me, there's like been three stages in my life. The first stage was just say anything. Even if you didn't believe in it.

I said a lot of stupid shit about about gay people, about whatever the fuck I was, if I thought it would work. You know, to me it was like, is this a brick? Can I kill a rat with it? Let's kill a rat. You know, it was just a tool. I think I followed your model. And I'm just, you know, years behind you doing the same thing. The analogy, a good analogy I heard was golf.

They said when you learn to golf, just fucking hit the ball as far as you can fucking hit it. And then hone your swing and bring it in instead of trying to hit it right and then trying to hit it far. So like try to kill it first. Yeah. Just try to learn how to kill. And once you kill, you'll get all that confidence and you'll never be scared. And then hone in the good, you know, really creative, interesting jokes with your point of view. But you can't go out there

initially with that. Some guys probably have. They try, but they seem so pretentious, especially when you're 20 and you're breaking down the government. Please shut the fuck up. Please go get hit in the head by a ball. Please get punched. Go do something where you develop some character.

We'll talk about this off air, but there's someone who does that right now. I'm sure. There's a lot of people who do it. You want to be somebody, man. you want to be bill hicks you know there's a great fucking the atlanta punchline one of the great clubs you ever worked there no one of the best clubs in the country fucking fantastic club anyway the atlanta punchline has a uh a back room like a green room and it's got a bunch of shit written on the wall and one thing that i took a picture of put it on my mo Mo blog, back when I had a Mo blog. I've got to find it. It must be on my... It said, quit trying to be Hicks.

It's on Fragmob. You still have an account at Fragmob. Do I? Yeah. Okay. Well, go check that shit out, bitches. Check this out, Joe. Redpancake.net.

I don't think I need to see that. Don't go to redpancake.net. What is that? It's some sort of horrible venereal disease some poor fuck has. And Brian wants you to look at it. Eddie, where are you going to be next, man? I am in Australia, pretty much. Well, yeah. We've got a lot of Australian people that listen to the show.

So tell us where. Yeah, I'm doing the Adelaide Fringe Festival. I'll be at the Arts Theater for 10 nights only. And then I'm doing Brisbane. Only? 10 nights in a row? Jesus Christ. I've never done 10 nights anywhere that's

incredible 450 seats so start buying tickets holy shit and then I'm packed places in in Australia huh it's going well I'm really happy is that weird to be super famous in another country I'm not super famous at all I mean are just super famous I'm I'm happy with how it's going but I would like to see

the same I told you yesterday I go it's not like I love Australia it's a great fucking place I love to surf but you want to see the same. I told you yesterday, I go, it's not like, I love Australia. It's a great fucking place. I love to surf. But you want to do the same thing here. Yeah, I just, you know,

I like being around my family and I want my parents to not think I'm a failure. Holla at your boy. So, what is your website? Eddieift, I-F-F-T dot com.

And on Twitter, it's Eddieift. Facebook. I'm on Facebook. Facebook. And Facebook is easy to find and our fan page podcast is talking shit yeah and your podcast is it back up now it's if you google it you will find it you don't have to go through itunes everybody thinks you have to go through so libsyn has it

libsyn available no matter what all the episodes are available and you can get to libsyn i assume from eddie f.com and they just took it down because of the name. They took it down because of the title. And we fucked up and didn't put explicit. Well, he got lucky. They didn't took it down from I guess I have to eat this guy's cunt. They should have taken it down from that. Yeah, we just do podcast number one. Yeah, that's what we should have done. We just have the guests.

I understand their thing, trying to keep children away from explicit stuff. I understand. We fucked up. We fucked up. I don't think they have a filter, though. You think they would have some kind of safe? They do. And that's what they did. They bumped us off for breaking the rules

and we just didn't know. Yeah. So they killed all your feed and now you have to get a whole new feed? Yeah. We're going to have to get a whole new feed.

So all your subscribers, you have 35,000 subscribers. I think more now. Wow. And we're going to lose all our subscribers. So you're going to have to resubscribe.

So please folks, go to iTunes and resubscribe. Is it up now? I don't think it's up till tomorrow. OK, go to Eddie if dot com and download it. It's hilarious. Eddie, if it's hilarious and Jim Jeffries, it's hilarious, too. So the podcast is a fucking can't miss you dirty bitches. Joe's going to be there someday. He's going to drive all the way to Venice and do our fucking show. I'm going to do it. I am going to do it. When, tell me when you will, we'll work it out. Tell me when, maybe next week.

You heard it. Maybe next week. You guys around next week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Okay. Maybe we'll figure out next week.

I know I was supposed to do Tuesday with, uh, what does that do? His name is John LaJoy from, um, the league. How do you say his name? Uh,

I think you said it right. He's hilarious. Some of his fucking songs on YouTube are genius. And he's actually a fan of the podcast and actually asked to be on. I don't want to brag or anything, but he's coming on. So he's going to be on next Thursday. So maybe I'll do it someday next week. We'll figure it out. Venice.

Talking shit. And we will definitely put that shit on Twitter and let everybody know. And we'll try to get you guys back on iTunes by then. And so that's it. If you go to JoeRogan.net and click on the link for The Fleshlight, again, the Fleshlight sponsors the show. Thank you very much to them.

And you get 15% off if you type in the name Rogan. This Friday night, I am at Mandalay Bay Theater with Joe Diaz and Ari Shafir. It was not – I'm getting some messages where people are saying it sold out, but I don't know if that's true. It's very close, though. And it will by the time Showtime rolls around, which is tomorrow night. And then tonight, Ari Shaffir has a storytell show

at the Improv, and I'm going to go down and fuck around there, too. So that's it for the show this week for iTunes, and right after I say goodbye, we're going to play this R. Kelly song, The Zoo, because it's the most fucking ridiculous, brilliant thing that's ever happened. And exactly what we're talking about when it comes to celebrity turning someone into a crazy person.

All right. Love you, bitches. I want to see. I want to feel. I want to touch. I want to kiss. I want to feel. I want to touch. I want to kiss. I want to free. I want to sex. There's nothing like.