The Joe Rogan Experience - #821 & Fight Companion - Joey Diaz
Episode Date: July 7, 2016Joe is joined by Joey "CoCo" Diaz to watch the fights on July 7, 2016. ...
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I get so pumped up for these.
Fight Companion.
If you've never heard one of these before, ladies and gentlemen,
I'll probably explain this in the introduction for the people
that have to listen to the audio version of it only.
We just watch fights and we talk shit.
We may or may not discuss the actual fight itself.
Most of the time, we don't.
But today, it's with the great Joey motherfucking Diaz.
Thank you for having me.
Thanks for being here, brother.
I'm excited.
I'm excited about our show at the Cot Theater tomorrow night.
Yes.
Out of all the fights on the card, Dos Anjos, Alvarez was the fight.
Really?
That was my fight.
For the whole weekend?
The whole weekend. I didn't know when it was. I thought That was my fight. For the whole weekend? The whole weekend.
I didn't know when it was.
I thought it was on the undercard.
I didn't know when it was.
Yeah, this one tonight.
But this is the fight I've been waiting for.
This, to me, is a fucking barn burner.
I'm looking forward to it for sure because Alvarez is very tough,
and he makes every fight tough.
He's a tough dude, and I think he's going to have a real good game plan coming in.
I think he's going to be as prepared as you're ever going to see him
because you've seen him off some hard fights in the UFC.
He had that war with Cowboy Cerrone, got lit up, especially his leg.
He got his leg kicked.
He just got introduced to the next level of MMA.
But coming off of a victory like that over Pettis,
and he beat Gilbert too, and he had a fight through adversity in the Gilbert-Melendez fight.
He had a seriously fucked up eye.
Remember his eye?
Yes, yes, that's right.
He's a tough dude.
He's a tough dude.
You've got to put him away, man.
And that's tough to fucking do.
He's as game as they get.
But this dude is special.
This Dos Anjos is special.
He's hit a very high level over the last couple years and he's his skill
level is higher than it's ever been it's like a bunch of different things coming together one
it's Rafael Cordero Rafael Cordero is such a good coach the coach of Kings MMA the one the original
guys from shoot the box in Curitiba Brazil those so badass. I mean, he's from such a badass lineage.
He's from the early days of Ninja and Anderson Silva.
And he's the guy who took Fabricio Verdum from a guy who really wasn't a striker at all.
At all.
Just a jujitsu artist.
At all.
And he brought him to the heavyweight title.
And now you look at Fabricio striking.
He made a big mistake, obviously, in the Stipe Miocic fight,
but I think Stipe Miocic's a bad motherfucker.
If he catches you, he catches you.
You know, he tried to go to war with Stipe,
and Stipe just was better at moving away and countering him,
and he got careless and left some openings.
And it could have been because he was in Brazil,
he was real emotional, you know.
Who knows?
He fucked up, and Stipe's a bad motherfucker.
So those two are a bad combination together.
But that said, you look at, like like Verdum striking against Travis Brown it's excellent
his striking against Cain Velasquez it's excellent excellent long snaps that jab out keeps you to
distance throws hard kicks because he wants you to take him down how about that he wants you put
him on his back good luck with that good luck with the nastiest guard the heavyweight division has ever seen, arguably.
He's a motherfucker.
I mean, Frank Mir snapped arms.
I mean, you got to go with, like, if you want to look at, like,
effective submissions in the heavyweight division in MMA,
it's tough to not give the nod to Frank Mir.
Tapped Lesnar with a knee bar.
Snapped Minotauro's arm.
Snapped Tim Sylvia's arm.
Just maybe not for his
overall career, because he's definitely had ups and downs, but been in some amazing fights,
but his submission victories are fucking horrendous.
He breaks bones, man.
Who the fuck else breaks bones?
Frank Mayer's breaking bones with arm bars, breaking bones with Kimura.
He broke fucking Minotauro's arm snapped it in half where he
was looking over at it like holy shit so it's hard not to give the nod to to Frank Mir when
it comes to like overall MMA guard skill but that said man the technical ability that Verdum has is
off the charts the way he wraps you up is so neat He just tucks everything tight like that Fedor arm bar. Oh my god
I mean he just slapped that on him or Fedor was stuck in that guard and you could see in his eyes
He was like oh shit like this is like the waters heavier. I can't drink it
Like I can't I can't get up to get where the air is Holy shit Just get crushed into those legs
He's fucking huge too
He's a giant guy
Legit 240
Doesn't really have to lift much to be like 240
He's a huge guy
For Doom's no joke man
So for Stipe Miocic to take him out like that
Fuck that was a victory
And to do it in Brazil That that must have been nuts, man.
That was like 40,000 people or something crazy, right?
It was a soccer stadium.
Jesus.
He didn't give a fuck.
There was zero fucks given in Miocic's world.
In Miocic's world, there was zero fucks.
He had no idea he was in Brazil.
Well, that dude is as legit as they get.
His mindset is so strong. He's in Brazil. Well, that dude is as legit as they get. His mindset is so strong.
He's so calm.
He's so calm right before he throws down, man.
And you know what?
More now than ever because he's been there and done that,
that war that he had with Junior Dos Santos.
I mean, that was a fucking war.
Experience is a motherfucker in this UFC and MMA.
Experience is it, man.
Yeah, it is it.
But he's also got a lot of skill, and he's getting better. in this UFC and MMA experience is it, man. Yeah, it is it.
But he's also got a lot of skill, and he's getting better.
That's the other thing about Stipe.
Stipe's getting better.
I mean, he's always been a motherfucker,
but he's better now than he's ever been.
Better mentally, stronger, more steady.
Like, everything about him is better.
Now he has, what's his name in Cleveland?
When?
Alistair Overeem in October.
Oh, September? September. Something like that. September, I think his name in Cleveland? When? Alistair Overeem in October. Oh, September?
September.
Something like that.
September, I think.
September in Cleveland.
Oh!
You want to go?
That's a barn burner right there.
I don't know what the date is.
Let's do a show on Friday night.
My October's is jacked.
On September's it's jacked.
You're too goddamn popular.
No, no, no, no.
I do the every other week thing.
But the nose, the special, everything is just falling in.
You know, it's just October 15th I shoot,
so everything is wrapped around that pretty much.
Beautiful.
But Cleveland, that's going to be fun.
And the people that are going to be there to support Stipe,
because right now, I mean, they've got basketball
and now they've got the UFC heavyweight champion.
Doug, put the show together.
I'm open.
You're open? I think I'm open. together. I'm open. You're open?
I think I'm open.
I think I'm open, man.
Oh, shit.
Saturday, September 10th?
I think I'm open.
So the Friday the 9th would be where we would do the show.
Beautiful.
Let's do it.
I think I'm open, man.
I'll find something.
That's a crazy fight, too.
That's an interesting fight.
Because Alistair has been fighting very smart lately.
Man, he's just put it together really nicely in his last few fights.
Is he still at Jackson's?
Yes, he's still at Jackson's.
I think.
Part-time?
Pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure he's still at Jackson's.
The thing about him, again,
he was in pride and all that stuff.
He was the heavyweight champion in kickboxing.
There comes a time in your life
when you put the pieces together,
and we're starting to see it now.
From Alistair to Nate Diaz to all these fighters that years ago,
they lost one.
Who did he lose to?
He lost to Clay Guida, Rafael Dos Anjos, Broken Jaw.
And look what he's gone on to do.
Crazy.
So they put it all together.
It's like when a comedian gets a show.
You know how hard it is for a comedian to get a show?
All the stars have to be aligned.
Right.
Everything has to be in order.
Everything.
Just to get it on.
Right.
Everybody gets pilots every year.
But just to really get to that high level that you're talking about takes years.
Maybe Cordero, when he went to Cordero's, Cordero put it all together.
The jiu-jitsu and the boxing or the kickboxing, put it all together.
It definitely is a big part of it.
It's a big part of it.
You know what else is a big part of it?
His strength and conditioning program.
He's one of those guys who trains under Nick Curzon.
Do you know Nick Curzon?
No, sir.
Nick Curzon, he's one of the students of Marv Marinovich.
You know the Marv Marinovich and Todd Marinovich story?
Yes, the quarterback, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and Marv Marinovich was a world-famous strength and conditioning coach
with some seriously unconventional, wild ideas that were very, very effective.
And he trained BJ Penn for a couple camps.
And Nick Kersan is one of his disciples,
and Nick Kersan handles Dos An and uh quite a few other guys rusan providnikov how do you say his name
ruslan provodnikov provodnikov right i'm so high definitely shouldn't be doing this podcast right
now uh provodnikov the uh siberian rocky you know the guy i'm talking about he trains that guy too
and joe schilling he's done some work with joe he's a really good strength and conditioning guy and um
cardero and uh the combination of like high level mma high level jujitsu and this radical strength
and conditioning program these guys do all these plyometrics it's all this box jumps everything's
like exploding and resting everything's like very carefully monitored. It's really interesting stuff, man.
Do a lot of stuff with your feet.
That's one thing that he said that kind of blew my mind.
I was like, yeah, I didn't even think of that.
He goes, I go, what's the most important thing?
Like, what do you work on a guy the most when you first start training him?
And he's like, their feet.
He's like, foot strength is like one of biggest like weaknesses that a lot of fighters have like
their feet will get tired and so you don't push off you can't push off as hard you can't move as
well your footwork starts to suck you can't explode in or out when you see a guy who's got
like real good footwork and like this the ability to dive in and out and move very well and fast. You realize what a giant advantage that is.
Like, Conor does it so well.
Lyoto did it so well.
Wonderboy does it so well.
Oh, shit, Joe Duffy.
Joe Duffy banging on Mitch Clark.
Joe Duffy, very upset.
Coming into this fight after losing to Dustin Poirier.
He's got a rear naked choke on him.
Clark taps. Clocked taps.
Wow.
Beautiful.
Joe Duffy's a bad motherfucker.
He was a bad motherfucker, but, you know, he ran into Poirier when Poirier had finally figured out that 155 was the healthy weight class for him.
That he was just killing himself making that 145.
He's a big boy.
You ever stand next to Dustin Poirier?
He's a big dude. He's a big dude. He's a big boy. You ever stand next to Dustin Poirier? He's a big dude.
He's a big dude.
He's a big dude.
He's a big dude to get down to 145 pounds.
These guys that do that, man, they are, oof.
When did he fight last?
He looked really fucking good.
Fought Bobby Green.
He knocked him out.
Really good.
TKO'd him, I should say.
And his stand-up looked excellent.
Excellent.
Excellent.
He's so sharp and real fluid with his combinations.
And all the guys that McGregor beat up, those first two or three guys, really have turned.
Holloway, Max Holloway's a killer right now.
Oh, Max Holloway is the killer.
Max Holloway's on fire right now.
He's the killer.
Dennis Seaver's somewhere banging on a cage right now.
You know, Dennis Seaver's the only one that hasn't showed what happened after McGregor.
Yeah, well, Dennis Seaver took a bad beating in that fight.
I remember watching that fight going,
oh, this is, uh...
It was a Dennis Seaver, I think, that...
First of all, Conor's just better than him.
Conor's faster, he's bigger.
Hits hard as fuck.
He's 30 years younger.
Yeah, and it's just the miles.
Seaver's had some wars inside the cage.
You know, you go back and watch some of Seaver's fights,
then think about the camps that he had in preparing for those fights.
Then think about the fucking wars that he must have had in the camps.
And you look at all that miles.
So it's like, you see a guy like Conor beat a guy like Seaver,
and it just sort of confirms what you already know,
is that Conor's the truth.
You know, he is that goddamn good.
Because it was a beating.
And Seaver's got an interesting style. It's hard to beat
him up standing because Seaver
throws hard shots and he's got
that weird karate style.
That one kick is like a...
It just was not enough.
When I first met John Anik, he didn't have gray hair. Look at him now.
He's like Obama.
You do these live shows, you freak the fuck out.
I'm looking at him going, he had no fucking gray hair.
He was a young kid two years ago.
What happened?
Props to John Anik for getting that 209 tattoo.
That shit's hilarious.
You know what he did?
I had something.
He fucking said something.
He fucking said something.
Like, something silly about Nate Diaz.
That if Nate Diaz won the fight with Conor, he would get 209 tattooed on his arm.
Like, first of all, you're probably not supposed to say that, I don't think.
Like, especially about a guy that you have to commentate on and second of all i didn't agree with it at all like i didn't agree with it
at all like stylistically i thought when those when they announced that matchup i was like whoa
like nate's a nightmare the people that don't know he's a nightmare they just if you don't know that
guy's a nightmare go watch that fight with mich Michael Johnson where he beats up Michael Johnson standing.
Go watch what he did to Cowboy Cerrone, particularly in the first round.
Nate Diaz is a motherfucker.
Well, listen, bro, a tattoo is nothing.
Didn't Trip Lee have to drink a bucket of piss or something?
A bucket of piss you didn't forget about in a couple weeks.
He's going to remember that tattoo for the rest of his life. Shit, that bucket
of piss will linger over my head
all week. But
Anik is a really good guy. He is a good guy.
He's a real nice guy. I really like
that guy. I think he's a really good
commentator too. He's excellent.
That job that he has and that
Goldberg has, that job is hard
man. It seems
easy because they're good at it. But if you had
to do it or if I had to do it, I would fail miserably. I did it once a long time ago. I
failed miserably. It's me and Phil Barone did an episode. I was just terrible at that. My job is
so much easier. All I have to do is the fights are happening. I have to say what I think is
happening in the fight. That's it. The job of the Goldberg guy or the Anik guy
or Michael Chiavello or any of those guys,
that's a very difficult job.
Oh, shit, Duffy with the right hand.
Mitch is in trouble.
Well, that job, you've got to keep it together.
It's just a replay
I was like
Wait a minute
He had tapped
Didn't he
That's a beautiful angle of it
That's a
That's a quick beat down
Joe Duffy working with
Firas Zahabi
Is a big move too man
That's a big move
I know he had done
Some work with him before
But
There's the
There's like a couple
Of those guys
Like a Duke Rufus you know
faras madhume they just know so much faras's resume i watched some of his breakdown it's
impressive as hell yeah he was a kickboxer very good kickboxer and um nasty jujitsu man really
good jujitsu i've seen him demonstrate some techniques and i've talked to some people that
roll with him legit world class like very very good on the ground like surprisingly good yeah and just very smart very smart very good
at breaking down fights very analytical mind but very objective not ego-based and he's you know
he's strong and everything for us is and as a martial artist i think like i think you could
say the same thing about Matt Hume
both those guys are elite in everything like Matt Hume was an elite MMA fighter a lot of people
don't know he fought Pat Miletic back in the day this is before Pat had become the UFC champion
but Pat was like a really well-respected MMA fighter he was a real pioneer Pat Miletic was
and Matt Hume took him apart he blasted him he blasted him with uh
leg kicks and i believe he caught him with a knee and broke his nose and it was a real weird
stoppage because it was a real quick fight and pat would have fought through it but they stopped
the fight because of a broken nose so like honestly i mean although matt was having his
way with him i mean it was just a series of exchanges we've all seen fights turn around where one guy's winning and he's dominating,
and then the other guy turns around and beats him.
But Matt Hume, my point is, did he beat, even though there was a kind of a,
I just wanted to put it, it was kind of a funky stoppage,
because Pat would have definitely fought through it.
You'd have to kill Pat Miletic to get him to quit.
He's not quitting.
For a broken nose, that didn't mean shit to him,
but the doctor just decided for whatever.
A broken fucking nose.
I would go home.
It was like 94 or something like that.
A broken nose?
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
You're bleeding like that, gushing out of your nose.
I'd be fainting.
These guys have broken noses all the time.
Are you fucking crazy?
And they fight through it now.
They fight through it all the time now.
The fucking, when Alvarez had the eye like that.
I'm going home.
Listen, it's over.
I'm going home. I'll come's over. I'm going home.
I'll come back next week and fight you.
We got to go look at this fucking eye.
What the fuck?
Broken nose.
I'm going to sit there and fight you to the death with a broken nose and shit.
Well, Rory McDonald's having a problem with his nose.
Apparently, he broke it twice in training.
They were talking about it on, what is the ESPN show?
Or the Fox Sports 1 show.
Is it UFC Tonight?
Is that what it is?
Yeah, UFC Tonight.
They were talking about UFC Tonight that he had gone through.
How the fuck do I not know that name?
I should probably know that.
That he had to go through two broken noses in his camp.
So he broke his nose twice in camp preparing for that fight.
Because I think it was really fucked up by Robbie Lawler.
That Robbie Lawler fight was insane.
I got to fix my nose.
They're going to put two straws in my nose in a stitch.
For 30 years, I was looking for a straw.
Now they're putting two straws directly in my nose.
What an invention.
They're going to keep them there forever?
For a week.
Until the 18th.
So I do the surgery Monday, and then for a week, I have two straws in my fucking nose.
And then they pull the straws out?
And they pull the straws out. And they pull the straws out.
I had splints in my nose.
It's interesting, man, because it kind of changed the shape of my nose a little bit.
Like, it made my inside, there was so much they cut out.
And, like, they have these things called turbinates.
You know what those things are?
Turbinates, yeah.
They get in the way, too.
They cut those out
And he said they just pulled out just giant chunks of scar tissue that had calcified
There was just no breathing out of that stupid nose you're gonna love it Joey once you get it done
Oh my god, you're gonna feel so good
Breathe out of your nose fucking done the right side is done. I must have done that side would blow
done. The right side is done.
I must have killed that side with a blow.
Killed it.
All I can see is that doctor on Monday,
like a dentist, when they're cleaning a cavity,
and she's got the goggles on
and coke rocks are hitting her
in the face and fucking aluminum foils
and pubic hairs and God knows what else.
I snort a cheat rock.
Whatever the fuck comes off that ceiling
and carpets and cat hair. I put all that shit. Sometimes snort a cheat rock. Whatever the fuck comes off that ceiling and carpets and cat hair.
I put all that shit.
Because sometimes you drop a coke rock on the floor.
Listen, at four in the morning, that coke rock's going down.
I don't give a fuck what's on the floor.
Nails, thumbtacks, lint.
It all goes in your nose.
You deal with it in the morning.
In the morning, it'll come out.
Something will be there.
It's fucking weird.
You just take it out.
Unfucking believable.
So if you spilled a little bit on a hardwood floor,
would you get down on that floor and sniff it right off the floor?
I would fucking put my finger and whatever else stuck to that finger.
Let's say it was a little coke rock and it had lint around and sheet rock.
Whatever else was on that finger went in my fucking nose with some water,
and I just held it up there to melt it, and whatever happened, happened.
Oh, my God. It's just crazy. That's over. Just crazy everything the doctor's name is dr. Line
L I and he no yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's a joke the doctors fix your nose is dr. Lime dr. Line
That's the fucking nose doctor. See that's one of those things where it just makes you feel like we're not living in reality.
This is it.
Dr. Line.
When he gave me the reference, I fucking died, my family doctor.
I go, are you serious?
His name is Dr. Line.
This can't be real, Joey.
It's a movie.
It's a fucking, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're living in a movie.
This John Jones shit, Joey Diaz.
How disappointed?
Real disappointed.
I'm like a 10.
I was a 10.
Out of all fight cancellation disappointments, that was heartbreaking.
Nine o'clock at fucking night?
Nine o'clock at night I found that.
I found it by Jamie.
Jamie texted it to me.
I was heartbroken. And you said, oh, no, or something. I just couldn't believe it. I was like, oh, no, I couldn it by Jamie. Jamie texted it to me. I was heartbroken. And you said
oh no or something. I just couldn't believe it.
I was like oh no. I couldn't believe it. It's not drugs.
I don't
know what it is. It's not because he's been
tested by the probation department.
Well how often do they test
him? Every two weeks. Maybe once
a month. Well what if he was doing something
that well who the fuck knows. It's just speculation.
Yeah it's just speculation. But from what I understand,
I don't think they
pull you off a card if you were doing pot.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if he tested positive
for marijuana
this far out,
because it was in June, I do not think
they would pull him off the card. He tested
positive once before, before a fight for cocaine.
For what? Yes. Against Cormier once before. For what? For cocaine. Yes.
Against Cormier once before.
But what I'm saying is, I don't think it's that.
No.
I think it's a PED.
Oh, God.
That's what I think it is.
Now, what's a PED exactly?
Performance Enhancing Drug.
Which could be.
Drop it on me.
It could be an accident.
And it's been an accident many times.
Right.
Tim Means was the most recent example.
I mean, he told them straight up, this is all I took. They went to the fucking store, bought it off the shelf, opened it up,
tested it. It had that shit in it. So this is these people, we've said it time and time again,
folks, there's people that are selling these things in vitamin stores and these muscle building
things. And there's some people that are, you know, it might say that it has the ingredients on the list,
which are all things that have been shown to help build your body up,
but they throw other stuff in there too.
They just do.
They want their stuff to work.
So sometimes they make these things and they just put steroids in them.
Like you could go to a fucking GNC or a vitamin shop
and you can go and buy steroids like legit steroids like they will
make you fucking big like steroids are you serious they keep catching them not as good as the best of
the best steroids but at times there were I've talked about it before there was a stuff called
mag 10 that you could get it was so strong it was crazy how strong it was you just would get
jacked there's so much of that stuff.
There's so many of those things out there.
And they just keep making them.
And then they catch them.
And then they have to change the name.
And they come back.
That's how they do it with those boner pills too.
Those boner pills are filled with like steroids and fucking Viagra.
Like we need to do an on it test of boner pills.
We need to go buy whatever
Red Band's taking and take it to a lab
and just find out exactly.
You buy those over the counter.
Not even over the counter. It's like you buy them
at gas stations only.
Regular stores aren't going to sell those
rhino pills. You have to buy
them in the shittiest. And what do they do to your dick?
Apparently, according to Red red band i haven't
taken them they destroy it they turn it into a fucking cock eating zombie your your dick just
becomes a monster your dick just uh something happens to it it just gets so hard that you can't
believe it you you're filled with lust and passion people talk about it like they're crazed. I'm like, you're taking meth.
You're taking meth mixed with Viagra.
Like someone's dosing them up with some ridiculously high levels of speed
and probably some steroids and some meth and some Viagra.
Just...
I was out of...
They don't have to tell you what's in there.
Well, I was out of that hemp-forged chocolate.
I didn't have enough chance to send the kid an email and get it so i just went to the store and i asked the kid i just want prone i didn't want to spend the 94 dollars for the way
because i didn't want to hold all that protein powder so i went to the one on lancashire
and he goes do you take any pre-workout and i don't take none i take the quadriceps i
didn't tell him that but i take the I take like half of the Shroom Tech.
Right.
I don't want to have a fucking heart attack.
I take half of it.
Those fucking Shroom Techs, sometimes you're in the middle of class and you're gasping
for air because so much air is coming into you.
And my body can't take it.
It's too much fucking air sometimes.
Like, you're like, fuck, this is too much.
So I just went there one day and the guy goes, take this.
It's like a drink before you work out again.
I had it in the bag, and I drove, and I get there, and I go, let me just try it.
I tried half of it.
I did the class, but on the way home, I had the wildest fucking hard-on.
I had to go home, take a shower, and jerk off in the fucking shower,
because the hard-on was real.
Mama wasn't home.
Nobody was around.
I mean, it was fucking evil.
And even after I jerked off,
it stayed hard, hard in the shower.
I was like, Jesus fucking Christ.
I got to save this shit
and drink it when Mama's around.
That's these things, man.
They're selling these things.
Then I got scared
because after I jerked off,
like an hour later,
my heart started having palpitations.
I'm like, yeah, enough with this shit.
Enough with this.
I don't do anything.
Listen, I've never been a proponent, is that the word?
Yes.
To fucking Red Bull.
Because when I was shooting a movie once, I was up all night snorting blow.
And I fucking drank three of those Red Bulls and I fell asleep.
So I said, fuck it.
There's nothing in that shit.
That shit don't work.
I drank three of those Red Bulls and was not done with the set.
So those things don't fucking work.
So I've never really been any energy drink.
I grew up without energy drinks.
You'd expect me to like energy drinks.
I hate all that shit.
I don't believe it.
When I was a beginning comic, I used to take no dose to drive all night.
That is horrible.
That stuff's nasty.
Just when I would drink it with Mountain Dew,
it really goes deep and smoke a joint.
You drive all night like this, look.
You drive like that all night.
And then you pull over, you take a nap,
and I would take a nap with the car on
because it was the winter.
Like in those days I had to drive,
I would have to do the late show as a feature
and then drive back to Boulder overnight
from Boise, Idaho,
or wherever the fuck I was at.
Billings, Montana.
So I would drive all night to pick up the baby
in those days.
I'd have to do whatever the fuck I had to do.
One night, Jamie, I pulled the car over
and it was freezing out.
I left the car on and I fell asleep.
And when I woke up, I thought I lost control of the car.
You have no idea what happens to your heart.
Oh my God.
When you fall asleep and then wake up and I I had the headlights on, and I saw the snow.
And I was like, ah, ah, ah.
And you grab the steering wheel, and you put the brake on, and you're like, I'm not even fucking moving.
Oh, my God.
So those no-doses with Mountain Dew.
Oh, my boy.
There you go.
Alan Joban just about to step into the octagon right now.
Great dude. Great dude. Very sweet.
I love that guy. Always says hello.
He's the one, Eddie's longest
student. I've known that kid forever.
He's awesome. He's always been awesome.
Great guy to train with.
Super cool.
He's been doing really well in the UFC.
Except the Einstein fight,
you know,
but that guy,
Tumanoff is a beast,
man.
Albert Tumanoff is just so technical.
His striking is just so good.
And who's that other dude that Rafael Cordero has?
His hair's always fucked up.
Doesn't look like much of a fighter.
He got eye poked last time twice,
and he just knocked the motherfucker out.
Baruch.
Oh, yeah.
Baruch.
Darius.
I like him, too.
I like Rafael Cordero.
But Neil Darius is a really good jiu-jitsu player, too, man.
You see his jiu-jitsu?
No.
His kickboxing has come a long way with Cordero.
You know, his kickboxing is really good now.
It's excellent.
But his jiu-jitsu is nasty.
He keeps his guard down, like his hands low, which always...
Sometimes, yeah.
But Cordero is Cordero, so I trust they're up to something.
So it's none of my business.
I don't know what the fuck they do.
You know, Darius is a very smart guy.
Very smart guy.
And he's a hard worker, and he'll get better.
I mean, right now he's cracking into that top ten realm.
He's a very, very good fighter listen brother had a setback in the chiesa fight you know kiesa
michael kiesa choked him but kiosa i'm telling you man michael kiesa has nasty back control i
watch that kid's the way he takes backs and the way he clamps down. He's got a super, like, very tight game. Some guys just
have a technique. Like,
remember Cody McKenzie had that fucking
guillotine of death. Like, if
McKenzie caught you in that guillotine, man, he was
putting dudes to sleep. And you look at him,
not a physical specimen,
you know, just looks like a regular dude.
He's not athletically gifted.
He just had this one technique,
razor sharp
Razor sharp and for okay, it's four minutes and 50 seconds right now in round number one
So that's the time stamp 46 45 44 43 you got it
But Kies has got that with his back mount man He gets that back mount on dudes that rear naked choke is a strong position for him
that with his back mount, man. He gets that back mount on dudes. That rear naked choke is a strong
position for him.
Alan Joban looking very light on his
feet here.
Listen, man, once you get to
that elite level, you have to be
very intelligent as a fighter.
There's no other way to improve to that higher level.
No, no, no. You're not a bar brawler no more
that goes in there with,
I'm going to punch him in the mouth mentality.
Yeah.
You figure out how to win the war.
You train accordingly.
I mean, those guys, and that jiu-jitsu.
Oh, shit.
Big left hand, Joban.
That jiu-jitsu makes you so analytical when you're a high-level black belt.
It makes you think so much differently than, you know,
just throwing kicks and punches, you know.
Yeah. You have to think so much differently than, you know, just throwing kicks and punches, you know. Yeah.
You have to think so much quickly.
When you roll with those high-level black belts, game over.
I mean, it's just a...
Yeah, Joban's here in full guard.
I would like to see him pass.
I don't like this.
Yeah.
See, and he got swept.
Now he's stuck in a standing guillotine, but only one arm in.
I don't ever like it when dudes lay in the guard.
I just think if you're on top and you're in the guard,
you should at least attempt to pass.
Because if you can pass and get to a dominant position,
you establish that you have the better ground game, right?
And then you also have the opportunity to try to set some stuff up for
real and you force someone to be completely defensive because someone in the guard is still
partially offensive they can still catch you when you get a guy inside control you're almost 100%
offensive and he's almost 100% defensive there's only like a couple things you could do from the
bottom like with elbows and maybe you can catch a Kimura if the guy's not paying attention. But for the most part,
when you're in the guard, like we were talking about with Verdum, there's still guys
that can fuck you up from there. Brian Ortega, he will
fuck you up from inside his guard. Lay in that dude's guard. Good luck.
That guy will fuck people up in that guard.
I just think
sometimes dudes try to play it safe.
You know, they get a guy down and they're
inside of his guard and they just say, alright, let me
just throw some punches here and
see what's up. And they just kind of cancel each other out.
So what you're saying is if you're in the closed
guard, get the fuck out of there.
Yeah, don't get, first of all, don't like fall into it.
And obviously easier said than done, right?
But don't choose to fall into it.
Treat it like it's a dangerous place.
Get out of there.
On everybody.
Even on guys that maybe their guard's not that good.
Pretend it is.
Treat everybody the same way.
Get the fuck.
Oh, head kick.
Oh, that was brutal.
This dude's done.
If this guy survives this, he is a fucking monster.
Oh, elbows.
Oh.
Wow, this dude is gutting it out.
He is gutting it out, man.
Look at this.
He's surviving.
Come on, let's do this shit, Alan.
This dude's surviving.
Muhammad is tough as fuck, man.
He is tough as fuck.
Because he is not giving up at all, man.
Giving up his back.
Don't give up your back.
Oh, knee to the body.
Those knees against the fence are brutality, man.
Knees to the body against the fence, they're rough.
Like when Anderson got Chael Sonnen.
That one.
Ooh, nice slice pass.
Keep going.
Mmm.
This Muhammad guy's a motherfucker, dude.
To survive that.
He's getting back up to his feet.
Look at this shit.
And he rolls.
Joban on top.
Oh, he went crazy with the flying punch.
Joban's wrestling looks pretty good too, man.
Good defense here, but this Muhammad guy looks very strong.
I think Joban and those guys work out for kickboxing somewhere in North Hollywood.
Really? Saxons?
Yeah, some badass school up there.
Is that in North Hollywood?
Yeah.
I think that was in Van Nuys.
Van Nuys.
Is it in Van Nuys?
Wherever Alder was.
Used to be that school there.
I think one of the kids that goes to daycare trains with Alan.
This kid goes.
Oh, okay.
He always tells me that's where they are.
Yeah, that Saxon gym is one of the best gyms around in this city for kickboxing.
A lot of guys out of there fight in local competitions.
He's got guys in Glory, and he's got Alan and a bunch of other guys.
But very highly respected gym.
Damn, Muhammad's a bad motherfucker.
That dude's tough because he got clanged.
He got left-handed on the point of the chin.
I mean, that's a nice sort of hooking left hand.
And then clanger.
He got double clanged.
He got clanged with the shin and then clanged with the got double clanged. He got clanged with the shin
and then clanged with the punch after it.
Dank.
That's a boom boom.
That guy is tough as fuck.
So here's something that happens
in exchanges like that.
Sometimes when a dude hurts a guy
and then unloads on him trying to finish him but can't finish him now not a guy like alan because
alan's pretty experienced i don't think he emptied his gas tank but guys have emptied their fucking
gas tank trying to take a guy out and then had to coast for the remaining second and third round like some guys they they're
notorious for that like they open up on you and if it like i'm looking at alan right now he looks
really tired and some guys do that they'll open up with that first round and they think they got
they got a guy hurt but if the guy can survive they've blown a lot of gas and a lot of adrenaline
too because they got emotional.
They just went crazy after you.
And then when it doesn't happen and the guy survives and he's still there,
there's just like a mind fuck going on, like, oh, no, did I empty my gas tank?
Who was the big guy against that four Brock and Adam was punching him? Shane motherfucking Carlin.
That's who that happened to.
Yeah, for sure.
That's who that happened to that time.
It was a couple of the fighters and i didn't understand
what you were saying at first if they gas in the first round your arms get tired i didn't
understand that concept then i saw it a couple times and i was like ah well shane was a monster
dude i mean he had just ridiculous punching power and he was uh just far more skillful uh at the time at least than Brock was
standing when Shane was a really good striker standing up his uh his punches were short and he
had mad confidence in them like he he would slug it out with anybody and one of the best examples
of that when he fought Gabriel Gonzaga Gonzaga broke. Like, Gonzaga had him hurt.
He broke his nose and staggered him.
And then when Gonzaga moved in for the kill,
Shane hit him with six inches of death.
Just this.
Thump!
That giant cinder block in the end of his impossibly thick arms.
And he just punched through Gonzaga's head.
It was ridiculous.
He has these short punches that he hit Frank Mir with.
He tied up Frank Mir.
He got him in a collar tie or something like that.
I forget what he did.
Or maybe overhooked him.
I forget what he did to control his body.
But then he just uppercutted the fuck out of him.
And it was just brutal.
The power and the speed and the fucking leverage of these shots i was like
shane carwin was one of the scariest guys to have punch you maybe ever shane carwin uncorks on you
like i've watched that guy knock out a lot of dudes and there's something about him in particular
like his physical size and you know until his body started having like serious problems because
of all his football career and you know just years of combat sports training his you know, until his body started having, like, serious problems because of all his football career and, you know, just years of combat sports training, his, you know, his body was giving him some real big problems.
Now, what do you feel in the octagon when your arms get like that?
Do they just get heavy?
Do your acid fill your arms?
You'd have to talk to them, obviously, because I've never fought in the octagon.
Well, I would imagine.
Like, does it happen to boxers?
Yeah, sure.
Does this type of training happen to boxers where they get all?
Adrenaline dumps.
Adrenaline dumps are so real.
But there's also a thing about MMA versus boxing.
Five minutes is a long fucking time.
It's a long time.
And you can't sprint for five minutes.
No one can.
And so with a guy like Joe Ban, did he sprint there? That's the question.
Did he sprint? Did he go all out and then couldn't go any further and then had a minute 40 left in
the round and Muhammad survives and Muhammad feels that. He feels that Joban might have fucked up and
emptied his gas tank. Now here he's got Joban up against the cage. Joban's moving around. He looks
a little slower. You know, it gets interesting because that's a famous quote.
I think someone else said it, but Shale Sonnen is the one who told it to me.
He said that if you try to take a guy out in the first round but don't,
you'll most certainly lose a decision.
Or you're more likely to lose a decision or you're more likely to lose a decision like you try to win the fight
by knockout or don't win the fight at all because you're not going to have the gas to go three
rounds now is there anything you could do in your strength and conditioning program to avoid that
you can recover faster with the most efficient training and getting yourself in the very best peak shape,
you can recover faster.
The question is, okay, is a guy like Allen or is this gentleman Muhammad,
are these guys in their optimum physical shape?
Well, you don't really know.
They're obviously in fantastic shape.
They're obviously elite athletes.
But are they at their best?
I mean, if he was with a Mark Marinovich or
someone along those lines, I mean, who knows what a guy like that could do on strength and
conditioning level. And so then it becomes a matter of how important is the strength and
conditioning. See, that's where guys like Marinovich and like even Nick Curzon, a lot of
these guys, they differ from a lot of the pack. They think it's the most important thing. And I
think he's right. I think once you already learn how to fight, then it's almost less important to spend all the time boxing and sparring,
and almost more important to do drills and do mad strength and conditioning work.
Because I think you take less off your body, you already know how to fight. I mean,
Alan Joban knows how to fucking fight. This is not going to be a surprise for him.
How much fight training does he need to do versus conditioning training?
Because if he's in the same position here in this fight, but had less time in camp hitting sparring partners, but more time doing plyometrics, and was much fresher and felt better in this round,
the argument is you're better off having the most
fit vehicle to do combat with like your mind already knows how to do combat right you already
know how to kick you already know how to punch you already know how to choke dudes you're not
gonna get much better at that in six weeks but here's what you can get better in six weeks
you could ramp your cardio up to some fucking ungodly levels so the question becomes should you
cardio up to some fucking ungodly levels.
So the question becomes, should you invest all your time doing that,
or should you invest your time in fight training?
And it's the great debate.
Now, we've had the discussion about Robbie Lawler,
that Robbie Lawler's training camps consist of wrestling and hitting the pads.
Used to.
Used to. He spars now.
He spars now.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the time that he's back sparring
is also the time when he went on this unbelievably successful run in the UFC
and is now the welterweight champ.
I don't think you can get away with not sparring.
I don't, but some people do.
And some people think that you don't need to spar at all,
or you spar very little, and most of what you do is,
I mean, that works for them.
Some people think that sparring is the most important thing.
Eddie Alvarez went 150 rounds to prepare for Dos Anjos.
I'm sure Eddie Alvarez does everything else.
I'm sure he does strength and conditioning.
I know he does a lot of pad work.
I know he does everything.
He's an animal.
He leaves no stone unturned, right?
But that's a lot of sparring, right?
Some guys don't like to spar much at all.
Some guys spar very little.
Maybe spar real light, spar like once a week and they save themselves. I mean, it's, everybody's got
their own method to prepare, but guys like Curzon and I guess it's Marinovich's, um, this is their,
uh, their school of thought. It's like for a guy like BJ Penn, Marinovich took BJ Penn to his
highest heights. Like when, when they were training together, BJ hated the training.
But God damn was he unstoppable inside the octagon.
That was the phenom BJ Penn.
That was the real prodigy. When BJ Penn was lightweight champion, like when he destroyed Sean Shirk,
when he destroyed Diego Sanchez, God damn BJ was good.
For this brief time, this, you know, a few fights.
He wasn't, his cardio wasn't suspect at all.
At all with them.
At all with them.
But the training is just unbearable.
BJ did an interview about it where he's talking about how he couldn't even hold his baby in his arms, man.
He would get home at night and he couldn't hold his baby.
His arms were too tired.
Like, they break you.
They're all about physical conditioning.
I mean, Marinovich is a fucking mad scientist man
I'm giggling because Monday was 4th of July and me the asshole decides to go to jiu-jitsu
Mr. Crane goes fuck it. There's no teaching dick today. Just seven minute rounds. I didn't know this I can't hear I'm deaf
I can't hear I hear him puts the clock on and you have to pick
your sparring partner. Girl picks me. She fucks me up, right? Because she's about a buck 10,
this girl with a tattoo over her eyebrow. So I know I'm in for a fucking dog fight with this girl.
She can't pull me down. She can't move me around, but she's taking my back, Joe Rogan.
I'm dying. I'm huffing and puffing. I look up and there's 350 left on the clock. Three minutes and
30 minutes left. I thought I was going to
fucking die. He made us do that
seven times. At the end, I just
looked at him, Joe, and I was like, Jesus Christ.
I don't know how you high-level motherfuckers do this.
Oh, yeah. I couldn't even
walk that night. My legs were killing me.
But I will tell you what I've been doing over there, Joe,
that's helped me a lot.
And it's right what you're saying, that technical fitness.
I do the 30-minute class after the jiu-jitsu class.
And it's just little exercises that you don't think much of, but next thing you know, shit's pouring out of you.
Are you doing it with that kettle jitsu guy, the guy on Instagram?
No, no, no.
He's my buddy, Joey Alvarado, good guy.
He's got a good Instagram page.
He really works hard, Joey Alvarado. A lot of good videos. He really does. He's my buddy. Joey Alvarado, good guy. He's got a good Instagram page. He really works hard.
A lot of good videos.
He really does.
Good kettlebell exercises.
Yeah, he really does.
That's 6.30 in the morning, dog.
And he's a jiu-jitsu player too, right?
He's a black belt.
He's a Machado black belt.
There you go.
That makes sense.
Because he had real good exercises for grappling, for jiu-jitsu.
That shit starts at 5.30 in the morning.
That's an animal, man.
5.30 kettlebell, 6.30 jiu-jitsu.
Then it closes down until 9.00.
Then they start that tack fit.
Then they do no-gi.
Then they do drills.
Then they do the regular jiu-jitsu.
And there's people that stay there from 9.00 to 1.00, Joe Rogan.
Jesus Christ.
This is dude I'm friends with, Jocko Willink.
He's a former Navy SEAL, and now he does, like,
he does, like, seminars for businesses and stuff like that,
teaches them how to motivate and how to lead groups.
This motherfucker's such a savage that every morning
he takes a photo of his watch when
he gets up to work out he works out every morning at 4 30 so he take he's but but his instagram is
filled with these pictures of his watch at 4 30 and you want to you want to see some shit that
makes you feel lazy follow that guy's instagram Instagram. Every fucking day, 4.30, all caps, GET AFTER IT.
And he's doing fucking deadlifts and squats and fucking throwing kettlebells around and
doing dips.
You're not an early morning guy, are you?
No.
Not at all?
No.
What's the earliest you throw weights around?
Sometimes I do.
11.
Well, I do weird shit.
There's Jocko's, look at it.
Look at his fucking Instagram page.
It's all 413
Oh I know who that guy is
Yeah yeah yeah
He trains with Dean Lister
Yeah yeah yeah
I know who that is
Legit
Legit
Top level black belt too
I mean I know for a fact
That he goes to war
With Lister
And Lister is
One of the best
In the fucking world
I mean
And he's got a podcast too
The Jocko podcast
Jocko podcast
Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah I convinced him
To do it after Doing the podcast with him here.
Allen's in trouble.
He's in trouble.
He's taking some hard shots here.
He's getting roughed up.
That uppercut there, I think what we're talking about might have happened.
Yeah, it did happen.
I think you might have emptied that gas tank.
We were talking.
You could see him on the ground.
He was tired.
I saw him after the first round.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Oh, he got spinning backfisted.
He's all right.
They went to a decision.
I wonder who won.
Oh, he won this round.
I think Alan won the first two.
That guy's a tough person.
He's a tough motherfucker.
Congrats to him.
Win or lose.
Congrats on that performance.
He was 12-0 going into this.
I don't think they really knew.
I think this is his first UFC fight or no?
I don't think so. I feel like he's had first UFC fight or no? I don't think so.
I feel like he's had one.
But goddamn, I'm impressed with him, man.
This is his first one?
Yeah, because they didn't have a picture of him.
They didn't have a fucking picture of him.
He's really good, man.
He's really good.
He's tough as shit, too.
I mean, he got... Oh, look at that right hand that's nice
and clean he got clangored in that first round man you can never forget that he got clangored
twice he was in real trouble that guy gutted through that weathered the storm and started
putting it on him beginning in sometime in the second round look Look at those nice combinations, man.
Sometimes I'm up at 4.30.
Jesus Christ. I drink a glass of water
with ice in it
to get everything going.
I make a little coffee.
I make an almond smoothie
and it's like 5.45
and I go,
maybe I'll go to
6.30 jujitsu class.
Whoa.
And I'm like,
fuck you.
Most heart attacks
happen between 6 a.m. and 12, bitch.
Do they?
I don't do a jumping jack until 12.
You understand me?
Nothing.
Nothing.
And now they're saying if you're older than 50, they happen between midnight.
They want you to take a baby aspirin and drink a glass of water.
So I don't piss in all night.
I go on a fucking drought after 6 so I can sleep fucking nine hours straight without pissing.
Now they want you to drink a big glass of water at midnight before you fucking go to bed.
Yeah, that's not good for your sleep patterns.
No, but that's what they said you need to do.
Why do you need to do that?
I don't know.
Isn't it important to sleep?
Check out the fucking journal of this, that, one of those things.
Yeah, so now they're saying a baby aspirin to glass of water.
Give me a guess.
Give me a guess who wins.
Alan Joban.
28, 27.
29, 28.
29, 27.
Alan Joban.
Well, he better get on his knees and thank the Lord.
He better get on his knees and thank the Lord and Satan and whoever else.
Well. Because he knows
he was getting hit at the end and he knows
he's going to walk out of there and go, Jesus, I was
running out of hat. Yeah.
He was in trouble.
Alan Joban just giving that dude props that's what a nice guy Alan Joban is
yeah he should have used better wording.
I mean, I see what he's trying to do, but he shouldn't say took him out because he didn't take that dude out.
I mean, he hurt him in the first round.
Clanger. My offensive output slowed down a lot.
I couldn't really throw any left hands after that,
so I was just kind of trying to survive with my right hand and my kicks.
What was the mentality in that third and final round?
He rallied too little too late, though.
You know, my coaches led me through it.
My coaches said, give me five good minutes.
You don't need a left hand.
Just set up the kicks, set up everything else.
So Alan Joban broke his hand in that second round.
People that are listening to this are probably like, what happened to them?
Did they go away?
Sorry, we're listening.
That's the problem with actually knowing a dude and being friends with a dude and then doing commentary on his fights and watching him fight.
It's like I just know him.
He's such a nice dude.
So what's the earliest you can work out, my brother?
I'll get up sometimes before the dawn and work out.
What time is that?
I don't know.
Sometimes I get up to pee, right?
It might be like 5 o'clock in the morning.
And I just, as like a little mental exercise, I say I'm just going to go work out.
And I just force myself to go work out.
No reefer, no food, no nothing.
Nothing.
Straight up gangster.
Get some water.
Bad breath going there.
Yeah.
And how long do you, is it a full or is it just to get the
blood going? Depends, you know, but it's always gotta be something hard to do. Powerful Robbie
Lawler. Usually it's, you know, I'll do some chin ups. I'll do some, uh, kettlebell work.
Just do like 40 minutes, maybe more, maybe an hour. And you go back to bed and sleep.
Maybe. No, sometimes I stay up. I don't know, man. Who can sleep after that? No, who can fucking sleep after that? Sometimes I stay up.
I don't know, man.
Sometimes I like to go up, get up early rather, because I like to go outside when everything's coming on.
There's something weird about seeing people wake up, sort of like seeing people leave their houses
and seeing the hustle and bustle as they're starting to get ready to go to work.
and seeing the hustle and bustle as they're starting to get ready to go to work.
You know, you can actually kind of see it in the distance all spread out when you get up in the morning and you go sit outside on your porch
or something like that and look around.
There's something about it just makes you really recognize this strange cycle,
strange cycle that we do every night, sleep and rise and sleep and rise and get caught up in
the momentum and keep doing the same thing over and over again trying to figure out what the
fuck you're doing sometimes when you watch other people doing it you kind of realize it's like oh
this is like a weird we're like pattern things we have follow patterns. Like humans on a whole, we love to follow patterns.
We follow like the same patterns over and over and over and over again.
Same routes to work.
Same bullshit you're dealing with at the office, you know?
Day in, day out, day in, day out.
And when you watch people do it, like when you get up early, if you don't have to go somewhere,
and you watch the city come alive it's like almost like you get to see the fucking work
behind the curtain before the play plays out so you get to see like oh this is this is weird when
was the last time you got up for work a week in a row like in fear factor yeah that was the last
time i had a job that's a job i hated those homes
you know i came from a home where the mornings were there wasn't much action i got up i made my
own fucking cereal i took a shower i dressed myself on the way out i said ma see you later
that's it but then you went to people's homes who it was heavy duty. They were going to work and I would sit there and go
Fuck this shit. Yeah, I hate that action in the morning that where's my toothbrush?
Where's my fucking shirt? You know I did for people yelling everybody
We'll get out of the fucking bathroom you're going to bathroom smells like ten shits
You know you like fuck this, you know, so I swore to God if I ever had a family
I want that early morning fucking riffraff.
She's got riffraff in the morning.
There's drama with her in the morning, but not really.
She's three and a half now.
She wakes up.
She puts her TV on.
She gets her own chocolate milk.
I don't give a...
Well, I got to make it fun.
I got to shake it with her, do the whole fucking thing.
But besides that, she leaves me the fuck alone.
There's no drama.
I don't like that Early morning drama
You know
Once I hit life
Okay that's drama
I don't want no drama
In my house
Running out the door
Yeah
I don't want that shit
Fuck it
Yeah
I'd rather people relax
I walk her
I like that slow
Yeah
I do too
It's really weird
I appreciate
The fives in the mornings
I appreciate the six in the mornings.
I love going outside and smoking and watching.
But I also appreciate two in the morning.
Sometimes when I get back to the valley, I just sit on my balcony and look out,
and I go, Jesus Christ, it's fucking nothing.
That's it.
We're in space.
Yeah.
This is it.
I'm in space.
It's me and that fucking moon and those three stars around it.
I think you need a little place where you can go occasionally
where you don't hear anybody, nobody's talking,
where you just look up.
Just look up by yourself.
I think we all need that. We miss that.
That's a really interesting aspect of civilization,
that as we become more and more dependent upon technology,
more and more into lights,
we're less and less aware of the fact that we're in space.
It's all happening together.
It's like the technology that's going to take people
past where we are now to some strange new world in the next decade or 100 years
or whenever the next fucking crazy invention comes out.
You know, I like getting up at 5 and I don't turn the TV on.
I don't check Twitter.
That's good.
I don't do nothing.
That's good.
I charge my phone in the living room
and I look at it to see if somebody called in an emergency.
Unless I see missed call, missed call, I put the phone down.
For two hours, I don't do dick in the morning.
I have a notebook in front of me.
I drink coffee.
After about 30 minutes, I go smoke some pot and really kick it up
and maybe eat a nicotine gum and get the party really started.
And for two hours, I just drain what's in your coconut.
Maybe I think about the night before.
I didn't tape that set last night, but I said one thing on stage that I liked.
And I'll write that down.
And I have a page of just shit I said on stage the night before.
Then it's not going anywhere.
And you like the nicotine gum?
Gives you a little stimulant?
Is that the deal?
Yeah, in the morning with coffee.
Look at this guy.
He keeps losing more and more weight.
What does he fight now?
145?
Well, he's fighting on Saturday, so he's in weight cutting already.
So he's dehydrated there.
You could fucking tell.
Yeah.
I mean, that's weird.
But is he fighting 145?
I think he's fighting 45.
Okay.
Wait a minute.
Who's he fighting this weekend?
Jim Miller. No, I think he's fighting 55. Joe Lo minute. Who's he fighting this weekend? Jim Miller.
No, I think he's fighting 55.
Joe Lozon.
Joe Lozon.
Is it 45?
Miller's fighting Takanomi.
Oh, that's right.
Miller's fighting Gomi.
That's the best, best under, under, under card of all fucking time.
I think Diego's fighting 55.
I think 45 was too much for him.
Yeah, he looks 45 right now.
155.
Yeah, 155.
But he's the kind of guy that even at 55 is going to cut weight.
He's going to get a little bigger and drop down.
Who is he fighting again?
Joe Lozon.
Joe Lozon, that's right.
That's going to be a wild ass fight.
Joe Lozon has been in some goddamn wars over the last few years.
Look at that early prelim.
Tremendous.
You could sell that.
That's incredible.
That's incredible.
DC is still supposed to fight someone?
Yep.
Any idea who it could be?
Do you think I'm going to tell you?
What are you, a fucking reporter?
Listen to this.
Dude.
I don't know where.
Next thing you know, you're banned from the fucking fights and shit.
He can't fight twice in the weekend. I know a few things, but I can't know where else you want to do it. Next thing you know, you're banned from the fucking fights and shit. No, he can't fight twice in the weekend.
I know a few things, but I can't talk about them.
I know a few things about other things.
I know some things.
I can say nothing.
You don't know nothing?
I don't know nothing.
I don't see nothing.
I'll tell you what, this John Jones thing literally broke my heart.
When you sent it to me,
it was like a distant relative died.
Not like a close one.
Like, oh, Aunt Sue?
Fuck.
I remember her.
Like a relative that I haven't seen since I was 15.
I'm reading that there was two different substances
that were in there, not just one.
Substance two.
Oh yeah? That's what you're reading?
Which website?
I don't know where I lost that.
Mike's dick hard M&A.
I pulled it off.
I have what I have left up is what he said about it,
and it was like a substance he couldn't pronounce.
Okay.
But I haven't.
Well, that's not entirely what I hear.
I can pronounce both of the substances that I heard
Jamie how many you want? What are you doing? No these stars of death?
Number 200
Jesus Christ Joey, how many you just chewing this you just say 200 just threw two of them in your mouth three
You want four to get the pot?
Oh, my God.
How are you doing that?
How can you do that?
How does your body hold up?
I'm a savage.
This is CBD oil.
I got the glue that keeps the bones together.
You know what I'm saying?
Your inflammation level must be zero.
If pot is anti-inflammatory, which apparently it is, your inflammation level is nothing.
The CBD oil I'm getting is 51%.
There's honey oil from Hawaii.
Let me tell you, some three, four drops in the
morning. I do it after the almond shake.
I let the almond shake leave my mouth
and I put that thing and I hold it for 60 seconds.
There's times I go home.
I'm an old fat fuck, man. I go home.
I spot two times. I'm done.
I go home. I can feel my legs.
They feel like they're swollen.
I do Tylenol,
the acetophil, and I do
three or four of those drops, baby, and the next
day I'm ready to rock again.
I don't know exactly
what the CBD oil... Every time I look
up benefits, they tell you one more.
You read now that it prevents dementia.
You read all these
fucking things they've been hiding this shit they've been hiding this shit from america man
well it's because pot's been illegal they haven't been able to give people cbd oil
i mean it has low levels of thc you'll test positive for thc with a lot of it no but now
it's legal in 50 states and you can smell smell it, so it's got no teeth.
The only reason why that's going on is because they take, you don't test positive, they're saying.
Well, they must be way better at it now.
Yeah, no, now they're really getting it down.
But it's an element of marijuana.
Absolutely.
There's got to be a by the way, yeah.
Yeah, they can make strains that are higher in CBD oil.
I mean, maybe they figured out a way to extract CBD oil 100% pure
where there's no residue of THC whatsoever.
They clean that out, and then they add a little THC to it
because counterbalance with the THC, that's what gets everything.
That's what works on those tumors.
That's what works on the, you know, so.
Yeah, that CBD oil is supposed to be amazing for inflammation, though.
Yeah, that's a real unfortunate thing that they did that.
They kept this illegal for so long. It helped a few people profit and it fucked a lot of
people over. It fucked a lot of people over, not just because people got locked up in jail,
but because people got the wrong impression of an awesome plant.
The really crazy thing was
that i was never familiar with holistic medicine until i moved to boulder and i thought these
people were fucking quacks like they talked to me like oh jesus fucking christ but then you start
paying attention to them they do a touch here a touch there they tell you to eat something and
you're like wait a second i don't have that fucking pain no more. What did you do?
You know, like, what the fuck did you do?
You know, Boulder is the home of that stuff.
Right.
It's the home of that stuff.
It's where it breeds out to the rest of the country.
Do you believe in that stuff?
You believe people have, like, the voodoo touch, and they can rub your back, and all of a sudden it feels better?
I'm not sure.
I mean, Higgins got the Indian.
The Indian will touch you a couple ways and you're all right.
There's this other guy that says your frame is bad.
All that stuff, I'm not sure.
But you know what, man?
A year ago when I would see movement training, I thought it was crazy.
And now I think it makes a lot of sense. And now I see a lot of high-level jiu-jitsu schools incorporating that as a class in their workouts.
So it's got to be doing something for you.
incorporating that as a class in their workouts.
So it's got to be doing something for you.
That stuff that the guy did in the beginning, Hickson,
of his documentary, all that stuff, people.
It looks very simple.
It's very similar, too.
Very similar.
Who knows, bro?
We've evolved.
We've evolved at every fucking level,
from technology to MMA training.
Ten years ago, they put a chicken on the floor and you chased it for speed.
Whatever the fuck you did in those days.
I don't know.
Now it's completely different.
Well, that was what was so interesting about Hickson.
It was that Hickson had figured this out in 1994.
I mean, that guy was a yogi.
He was a legitimate yogi.
I mean, Hickson does some spectacular shit. He'll stand on a balance bar and do a full split standing up grabs his foot and puts
it over his head like a fucking ballerina plus he'll choke you out i mean his his ability to
control his body is really freaky like he was a an incredible um body weight athlete like the
stuff that he could do with his body just in terms of like gymnastic movements and stuff like that yoga movements and stretching movements like very very unusually dexterous
Dexterous is that the word yeah
Good dexterity amazing dexterity, but just his jiu-jitsu was so high level on top of that
So yeah, the deep knowledge of jiu-jitsu of all the positions, like his, his basics were so fucking good.
Everything like to this day,
him and his son,
Crone,
they,
they use the same standard jujitsu that everyone has always used.
There's not like a lot of fancy,
crazy,
weird shit you've never seen before.
Triangles,
arm bars,
chokes,
and they're just razor sharp at them and that's
like a gracie family thing you think about like hodger same shit like dar's choke i guess like
the most unconventional thing that he does a lot of the time he does like a standard gracie attack
arm bars triangles guillotines chokes it's like they have that style of attack, especially Hickson and his son, Krohn.
It's just at this ninja level, this monk level, where it's just they do the standard jiu-jitsu.
There's no crazy, weird tricks coming your way.
No barambolos, no spider guard.
I mean, they know it, I'm sure.
I'm sure he could do it.
I mean, I'm sure every high-level guy is aware of pretty much every technique at this point.
Like, if they're competitive, or if they
train at a competitive gym, or they're curious, or
they work with athletes.
Look at Derrick Brunson. He's fighting out of
Houston, Texas. You know what he's thinking about right now,
right? He's like, I'm knocking
this motherfucker out so I can go back and
get myself some barbecue in this
motherfucking shit.
Maybe he's thinking about Roy Nelson as if he was a white cop.
It's a fucking nightmare what's going on out there, Joe.
Jamie, can you put the card up on one of the TVs so we can see what's coming up next?
Nice knee to the body.
After this.
Oh, really?
That's it.
Yeah, that's it.
It's this and Dos Anjos.
The Dos Anjos fight's a five-rounder, right?
Yeah.
Roy Nelson, I knew him back in the day when he was just a jiu-jitsu guy,
before he ever did any MMA.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure he was in Brazil with us when Eddie had that match with Hoyler. I flew down with him. That
was 2003. Roy Nelson was a real high, I mean still is, like a real high level grappler.
He beat Frank Mir in a grappling competition, a straight grappling competition, like some
ridiculous amount. Like just outed the shit out of him.
But that was like the Frank Mir lazy days.
Frank Mir has gone through, you know, days where he's less dedicated, days where he's more dedicated.
Well, he's asking to be released now.
Well, he got, something happened.
He got, there's some drug test issues.
What was the Frank Mir drug test issue?
Was it a steroid thing?
He had kangaroo meat.
That's right, right?
They said that they tested that they put the steroids in the kangaroo meat or some shit.
Wait a minute.
You serious?
No, yeah.
That's what he said.
He ate kangaroo meat. Oh.
When he went to Australia.
He tested positive after Australia.
Come on.
He really blamed it on kangaroo meat.
Damn, he's Rory Nelson.
Knees to the thigh are impressive. I like what he's doing there. He really blamed it on kangaroo. Damn, he's Rory Nelson. Knees to the thigh
are impressive.
I like what he's doing there.
He really did say that.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
That's what he ate.
What?
He said that maybe
they put a lot of
I swear to God.
Listen,
mere question in April
if his positive test
could be the result
of tainted kangaroo meat
he consumed in Australia.
I have a feeling
he did that with a half a smile on his face.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, Derek Brunson.
I told you.
Derek's like, wait a second.
I got to get this out of Las Vegas.
Oh, shit.
It's Derek Lewis.
What do I call him?
Derek Brunson.
Sorry about that.
See, now this is a bad spot for him because roy has a fucking nasty ground game everybody thinks
of roy as being this dude who just beat you up if you stand and trade with him but roy can control
motherfuckers on the ground man you know he lost to andre arlovsky in elite XC. But that's what I detail or what I call one of the most crooked organizations that ever showed MMA.
Crooked in not maybe that they cheated, but crooked in the way they interpreted the rules of MMA.
They would stand people up if they were down for like 15 seconds.
Like if you went to the ground, you had to submit somebody quick.
They were just standing people up. Oh, damn.
Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus. Roy just got
blasted in the gut.
And another one to the gut. And to the face.
Oh, shit.
Oh, Roy's in trouble.
Oh, knee to the body.
Oh, he got that
gable grip, though. Can he get him down? He got the
S-grip, rather.
Damn, this is a fight for his life here
derek punch man that's where his experience comes in though he got him awful gave him a
little chance to breathe and thank clear his hair his head he's still in trouble dude
lewis can crack. He really hits hard.
That was an excellent exchange, too.
Ooh, crazy sport.
What were we talking about right before this?
We were talking about something super important.
CBD oil, shit like that.
Started to bring up
what's going on in America.
Oh, the
shooting things? There's an active situation
going on too right now in Dallas. What's going on?
There's supposedly a shooter
shooting cops right now
during a protest. No shit. No shit.
This is what's going to happen.
No shit. I told Tate today. Tate called me.
He goes, Tate. I go, listen.
Six black guys are gonna get together and start
ambushing motherfuckers. And that's it.
This is gonna go, because you can't keep
doing this. Oh. Yeah, this is
fucked up. Oh. Roy's taking
some bombs, man. Roy's in trouble.
Jesus. Derek is in excellent shape
too, man. Because he's hitting him with some
hard fucking shots and he keeps coming forward.
And Roy can take a punch like no other and he gets the takedown.
Goddamn, full mount, not good.
No bueno for Derek.
This could be a wrap, man.
I'm telling you, oh, the end of the round.
Dude, Roy Nelson mounted on you is one of the worst situations ever.
That gut and all that body weight is all centered.
It's like having a giant 400-pound kettlebell sitting on your dick.
The way he mounts you.
You know, I don't really side control people.
I feel bad.
Especially when I'm sweating and shit.
They smell my stomach juice and pizzas and pretzel sticks coming out of them.
Fuck you.
I try to get my rib.
It's too bad. No, no, no.
Look at these fucking shots Derek's landing.
Jesus, Roy is tough.
Because Derek was beating the shit
out of him.
This is as good as Derek's ever looked.
Like those combinations.
He looks more settled.
He's fucking calm.
Look at him.
Man, I'm tired.
We got to get the fuck out of here.
Imagine if he grabs the mic and says, forget it.
Man.
God damn.
Yeah, look at him.
He's not even breathing.
Well, you know what?
Derek has also had quite a few fights in the UFC now,
and he's gotten more and more at home there,
more and more comfortable with the experience.
Look at that.
Nice.
Moves right out of the way of that right hand.
This is as good as he's ever looked, man.
I think he looks great.
It doesn't mean that he can't still get caught
because Roy hits fucking hard,
and Roy knows how to win.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, it's really weird.
Roy's been lingering for years, bro.
He's like a, he don't go away.
Roy's a tank.
He really is a tank.
And he's a guy who probably should be fighting at 185.
How about that?
You know, I mean, if he had the kind of discipline
that some of these dudes have, like Dos Anjos,
that cut way down.
But who knows, man?
Maybe part of why he's so good
is because he's a small man
fighting as a heavyweight
and can take unbelievable punches and kicks
and hits really hard, but he's not like a physically big guy.
I mean, I guess he is in his weight because he's about 265,
but if you got rid of all the body fat on him, how much do you think he'd weigh?
230, 220?
Like, quite honestly, if you put him in the same kind of condition that, say, like Robbie Lawler's in,
get him down to his optimal fighting weight, what is he weighing?
210.
210?
Yeah.
Look, he's got lats.
Oh, he's a tank.
He's got lats.
He's got traps.
So it's just the stomach.
Yeah, well, all that stuff under that stuff is strong as shit.
Yeah, look at the legs.
Now, remember, when he loses that weight,
those legs are going to be fucking savages
because they've been holding up a house for the last fucking 10 years.
So, yeah, he's got it.
He's halfway there.
If he just went on a diet, we're done.
He's never going to do that, though.
That's part of his flair.
That's just who he is.
I mean, it's amazing. He's a world
class fighter, and
he's built like a guy who works at a gas station.
No disrespect.
Roy knows I'm a big fan.
He's a great guy. He's tough
as fuck, too. Just tough
as fuck. He's one of them Allman Brothers motherfuckers, you know?
He's one of them Allman Brothers fighters.
They'll fucking come all night.
They'll show up with a bottle of Jack.
You bust their lip, they just put Jack on it and keep fighting.
Fuck stitches.
He's had some spectacular knockouts in the UFC, too.
The thing is, guys, he's KO'd.
Mitry Olm, Czech Congo. He KO'd Czech Congo he's KO'd. Mitrione, Czech Congo.
He KO'd Czech Congo, right?
Yeah. Did he?
I'm going to say he did.
I know Frank Muir caught
Congo and then put him away with a
choke. Am I confusing the two?
Oh, side control.
Oh shit, side control. Not good
for Derek.
He's unleashing those beers.
He did beat him. He knocked him out.
Yeah.
This is terrible because this is two minutes to go in the round,
and Derek is not moving that much, which means Derek is probably starting to fade.
He blew his gas tank trying to put Roy away, I think.
We're seeing the same strategy play out
that we saw with Joban and with Derek Lewis.
Went for it, sprinted, emptied that tank,
and worst situation for sure, though, for Lewis, man,
to be on the bottom.
Roy gets that fucking mounted crucifix all the time.
That's what he's looking for.
He's going to punch Derek in the face
until Derek gives him that right arm. He's going to gonna take that right arm shove it in between his two legs
and once he gets that arm in between his two legs once he feels like he can open it
he's like trying to bait derrick oh okay now he's got his back
wow derrick yeah derrick ain't fucking Derek ain't fucking around.
Ain't fucking around.
Back up to his feet.
That's strong.
That's a strong move.
That's impressive because Roy, bam, takes him right back down.
Roy's ground game is tight, but Roy doesn't like to take the back.
That's weird.
Bro, it's tough to take the back when you're a chubby dude.
That's what it is, right?
You got the thing in the middle there.
Yeah, it's tough.
He doesn't take people's backs because of his gut.
If you got them from a turtle, it works.
And you lay on them and you pull them back.
But no, it's tough, man.
I guess it's sort of a fulcrum point, right?
Oh, shit, he took a hard elbow to the head by Derek in attempting that takedown.
Now he's back.
Interesting.
Okay, back to side control.
That's his shit.
That's his shit for MMA.
He likes this.
This is how he stopped Kimbo Slice on The Ultimate Fighter. He's going to pin that fucking right arm in between his two legs. He just doesn't want to lose the position again because he doesn't have much time here. So he's probably just going to try to beat him up from garlic chips. Oh, we heard him. Left hook.
Whoa.
Jesus Christ.
See, he's tired.
Yeah, he's tired.
That's tough to have that guy.
Look at him.
He's like, God damn, that white dude stinks.
God damn, he put his stomach on my God damn face.
That's when he forced him to move.
He forced him to move when he was gut smothering him.
Roy Nelson with the powerful leg kick.
I'm just a big fan of Roy Nelson
and what he stands for, you know?
That's as American as it gets. No, I love him.
I love the beard. Crazy beard. He's fun.
The tits. They look like my titties
like that. They're all fucked up to the side.
They sweat. You get that titty sweat
on you with that pretzel stomach
sweat. That shit's deadly, dog.
Pretzel stomach sweat. You gotta smell my rash guard
when I leave it.
I definitely don't.
Definitely don't.
It's time for a bonogram.
What's gonna happen here?
Give me a Joey Karate prediction.
Third round.
Joey Karate predictions.
Roy Nelson's getting a little bit of confidence.
He might take him down and do exactly what you said.
The fucking tomahawk with the legs, whatever the fuck.
That mounted crucifix. I'm sorry.
If he can get him down, Derek's taking some big, deep breaths.
And, you know, this is a high-paced fight, real high-paced fight.
And when two guys start getting tired, the guy with the greater wrestling is able to usually impose his wrestling game better than the guy
with the pretty decent takedown defense which is where I'd put Derek Lewis so like they start
making mistakes and they get really tired and a guy with a lot of experience in grappling like Roy
does a great job of uh forcing guys into bad positions when he takes them down so if he could
if he could push the pace now,
he's got a much better chance at getting Lewis down
than he did in the first or second round.
Because Lewis has to bargain, like,
how much energy do I use to fight off this takedown?
He's punching him in the knee, and Derek complained.
That's interesting. Look at this.
He's punching the inside of his leg.
You know, sometimes a guy will, guy will let the fight go to the ground
because he just can't defend it anymore,
and then he wants to take a little break and then try to scramble.
But you can't afford to do that in the third round,
especially if it gets any deeper here.
You're like four minutes in now, or four minutes to go.
So you know Derek's trying to pummel under.
He's going to fall into that guillotine.
Roy just has no fear of his guillotine.
And boom, he's down.
There it is.
And Roy's going to step over.
Okay, so now he's got three minutes and 30 seconds to work.
And one of the first things Roy's going to do, Roy doesn't fuck around.
Roy's going to establish a position, and then he's going to move to side control.
He's going to establish some way to control his body, like head and arm control.
And then he does your standard shin and instep slice, pins down.
He's a Henzo Gracie black belt.
Is he?
Yep.
In New York, that guy?
Yep.
I mean, he trained with a lot of different people,
but I'm pretty sure he got his black belt from Henzo.
Roy's super legit on the ground.
Watch, he's going to slice down.
He's just posturing up on him here.
He doesn't feel like Derek is moving his hips at all.
Derek is like an exploder.
He's like a wait for his moment and explode sort of a guy.
But he's eating some shots here with Roy on top of him.
If Roy can just keep him pinned down here like this with his head at that awkward angle,
that's an awkward place to be, man.
He doesn't want it anymore, so he's going to...
See, it's like Derek bides his time, waits for his energy levels to restore and then just hulks his way standing.
I mean, for sure, he's got technique.
The way he got up, that was all smooth and everything like that.
But what I'm saying is like he's strong as fuck.
But this fucking guy resting on you takes it so, man.
Yeah.
No, it does.
And Roy, believe me, is making that guy carry all of his weight.
Look at how much he's driving into him with his shoulders pinned against him.
It makes it harder for him to breathe.
He's got real good head control like Roy's.
Oh, he's got to be careful of those.
There you go.
Yeah, he sacrifices a couple of those elbows to get him down.
This is not good for Derek.
He's definitely losing this round.
Back up to his feet again, man.
So impressive.
That's impressive.
Roy is good at holding dudes down, man.
It just shows you how tough Lewis is and how strong he is.
Lewis is and how strong he is.
But he just doesn't have, it doesn't seem like he has the horsepower or the gas tank to sustain.
He can't get away from him.
He manages to get back up to his feet, but then he can't get away from him.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Big John McCarthy steps in for the fans.
Let's do this shit now.
This is UFC 200 weekend, baby.
Let's do this shit. Roy This is UFC 200 weekend, baby. Let's do this shit.
Roy just took a big-ass deep breath.
Wow, he's going to kick him.
He's telegraphing that left kick.
Derek was giving that one away.
The best guys.
Let's go.
Oh, shit. Get out of there.
Oh, shit.
Get out of there.
Oh, Jesus fucking Christ.
Damn.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, nice knee to the body.
Ooh.
The clinch again.
And Derek just went, oh, man.
God damn it.
This motherfucker's on top of me.
More titty juice.
Getting this titty juice on me. I can juice. Getting this titty juice on me.
I can't even get this titty juice off me.
Come on, man.
Just bang this out.
Smells like motherfucking hot dogs in this motherfucker.
He just wants to bang it out.
20 seconds to go.
20 seconds to go.
Does he get free?
Yes, he does.
Yes, he does.
Oh, shit.
Left hand.
Oh, shit.
Goddamn Derek Lewis.
Woo!
But he don't give a fuck
This fucking guy
Oh
Oh Jesus Christ
Oh
A tooth just went out
Oh he's hurt
He's hurt
Oh my goodness
Look at him
Look at him
Oh my goodness
That's
That's white brilliance right there
Did he just lose a tooth?
He lost something
Mouthpiece something
Teeth
He don't give a fuck Jack
Dude he got Cracked He lost something. Mouthpiece something. Teeth. He don't give a fuck, Jack.
Dude, he got cracked.
He got cracked.
Watch.
Here it is.
Here's a right hand.
Boom.
Oh, that was slobber.
That's a slobber knocker.
That's officially a slobber knocker.
Damn, Roy Nelson has a chin of the gods. Look at his chin.
His chin is insane.
His ability to absorb punishment is
just superhuman.
He's just giving the fight just for taking that punch
and standing. That just goes to show you how hard
Mark Hunt hits. Mark Hunt
knocked him out. He
KO'd him with an uppercut and walked away.
That just shows you what a bad
motherfucker Mark Hunt is Roy Nelson man takes a shot as good as any human being that's ever lived
and for as long as he's been doing it I mean he's been taking shots for a long fucking time and
still has an iron jaw I mean that was a perfect punch from a knockout artist
that landed right on the tip of his chin,
snapped his head back,
and the dude survived.
It's a tank.
Who won that fight?
Roy.
Takedowns, right?
Yeah.
But if you look at it, who was closer to finishing the fight, it was the one round with Derek and then the third round with Derek. Those exchanges were way more dangerous for Roy than anything that Roy did to him on the ground.
any good position for a long period of time.
He got the mound, but it was at the end of the round.
He got side control, and he was trying to get the mound in crucifix,
and Derek kept getting up.
There wasn't a whole lot done on the ground other than some decent ground and pound.
29-20.
Ooh, split decision, ladies and gentlemen.
First judge scores it for Lewis.
Second for Nelson.
Derek Lewis. See? Judges are starting to look at takedowns as being less important than damage done. And if you want to go by damage done, you got the first round, a lot of damage done.
A lot of damage done by Lewis.
You got the second round, a lot of takedowns, right?
How many times did Roy take them down?
Three.
And then the third round, takedowns, but Derek hit him with some hard shots and had him in trouble.
Either way, man, what a fight.
See, this is one of the reasons why I hate
like those
the win and
loss money. Boom, look at this.
Here it comes. Crank!
Who takes that shot? Who fucking takes
that shot? What human being takes that shot?
That is insane.
Roy Nelson's jaw is fucking
insane.
You would have to fly in specialists if he punched me like that.
Roy's going to go out dancing tonight, probably pick up some chewing tobacco on the way home.
Unbelievable.
But anyway, what I was going to say is, uh, sometimes they get bummed out that, um,
that like someone makes less money than that. And a split decision, especially, I feel like, uh,
split decision so many times, I don't agree so many times. And the difference between like
three people, three people's opinions. So it's really only two people's opinions against it,
and that's going to cost you half of your money?
That seems so crazy.
That seems like that's something that shouldn't.
I feel like maybe there should be like different kinds of win bonuses
or at the very least they should share something if it's like a split decision.
You know, I know the ufc
privately bonuses a lot of people but that's not even what i'm talking about i'm just talking about
like this the idea of a win i mean everybody's trying to win you know how much when they go
they show up they know they're getting a certain amount right like uh it's a private company first
of all obviously i work for them and i can't divulge things that I know that I'm not supposed to talk about.
But it's a private company and they prefer to pay people non-publicly with a lot of the stuff they do.
I can't say much more than that because it's not my place.
I'm obviously not a money person.
I don't pay attention to how the business side of shit of this especially works.
There's lots of different sports so that players will get fucked out of a contract.
I've known baseball players have maybe their team wasn't going to make the playoffs,
but that player is really good and he has performance bonuses built into his contract.
And at the end of the year, he needs to pitch one more inning or even one more out.
And they'll take him out of the game so they don't have to pay him
like a million dollars or some shit like that.
When players also feel like that guy deserves it
because he worked all year for it, did everything he was supposed to do,
and so the owner just says, ah, I'm not going to pay that money today.
Sorry.
Yeah, that's fucked.
But I guess that's like we're talking about performance bonus money
where baseball teams,
Jamie was saying, will take a guy out if he needs to pitch like one more inning
and he gets like a million-dollar bonus.
They just bench him.
They just won't let him play so that they don't have to pay him that bonus,
which totally makes sense.
I mean, especially if they're winning.
If they're ahead, they don't need him.
I mean, it all depends on like how –
It's happened in losing situations too, though.
There's playing the thing out for fans to watch a game.
And people sometimes, they even know the situation.
Like, this guy's going to make 500 Gs if he gets three hits today.
And they're like, oh, he got two.
And he's not going to play for the next four innings.
You know what's crazy, Jamie?
The night before 9-11, I was at the fucking comedy store.
And Paul Mooney was on stage talking about Barry Bonds he was talking about how Barry Bonds they weren't gonna let that white boy break
the record remember he was going up against the steroid guy I'll never
forget he kept saying that shit on stage they never gonna let that that poor
little black boy break that record the next day I woke up to the
planes hitting I'll never forget saying to myself, Jesus Christ
he was right. They're
never going to let that Barry Bonds win the
fucking batting title.
That's how much they went out of their fucking way
for him not to.
Jamie, crank this up so I can hear what they're saying
about Mark Hunt.
I'm so happy that Mark Hunt is the
guy fighting Brock Lesnar.
He just fucking smokes people, man.
Mark Hunt just smokes people.
Holy shit, I'm excited about this.
I was more excited about Daniel Cormier and Jon Jones.
I was never excited about this fucking fight.
This fight?
Mark Hunt and Brock Lesnar? I don't give a fuck.
Ooh, I can't.
I hope Mark Hunt picks him up and throws his head out of the fucking ring.
That's what I give a fuck about.
Mark Hunt is pissed off, too.
Mm-hmm, he should be.
He's fucking pissed off.
He's pissed off right now.
So let's see where the fuck this goes.
This is going to be a good fight.
Yeah, man.
I'm interested.
They got me.
I'm interested.
And the very few guys could be coming from pro wrestling, you know,
and used to have fought in MMA and come back and get you excited like this guy.
I mean, he's a legit freak of the freaks.
I mean, look at the size of that motherfucker, dude.
Look at that. Boom!
That was the fight with
Shane Carwin. Look at how
he beats the fuck out of Frank Mir here.
I mean, just smashed him.
He's a big boy.
That is the biggest you're ever going to see.
As far as, like, legit super athletes in MMA that fight at 265 pounds,
because that's, you know, they have to.
Maybe some people don't know that.
For the heavyweight division, it's not unlimited weight.
Heavyweight division has a weight limit.
That limit is 265 pounds.
Everything above 265 pounds is super heavyweight division has a weight limit that limit is 265 pounds everything above 265 pounds is super heavyweight and we don't have a super heavyweight division in the UFC
so if you're like a super giant guy like the mountain that Game of Thrones demon dude
that guy could not fight the UFC can't make the weight that guy's way over 300 pounds, right? He's enormous.
So if they ever wanted to do that super freak division,
they would have to open it up,
and then they would have to start having fights in there.
But I just don't know if there's enough 265-pound-plus elite MMA athletes. There would all be a bunch of fucking ex-linemen.
Man.
There would be a bunch of ex-linemen that walk around at 275.
Let me ask you this.
The ex-linemen who are, you know a lot about football.
So if a guy's like a fucking world-class lineman, some beast of a man,
what would that guy have to, how much would he have to lose
to compete as an MMA fighter?
20 pounds maybe.
That's it?
If they're a lineman that's walking around at 295,
he's got tremendous footwork if he's an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman.
Right.
So half my work is done.
He's got strong fucking feet.
We've got to work on his striking, his takedowns.
Once you break the takedown to them, to football,
Chael Sonnen had beautiful takedowns.
Beautiful football-style takedowns.
You went four feet.
Well, Chael Sonnen was an elite athlete.
Chael Sonnen had a beautiful takedown.
Very, very high-level wrestler.
If you could teach somebody who's 6'6",
285, to take a motherfucker down like Chael.
Don't die.
Get done.
What's going on over here?
The eighth star of death gets stuck.
Who's this Bjorn?
Oh, this is the mountain guy?
Bjornsson.
How do you say that?
Bjornsson.
B-J-O-R-N-S-S-O-N.
Bjornsson.
Six foot nine and weighs 403 pounds.
Jesus Christ.
After injuring his knee in basketball, he started competing in strongman competition.
He won Iceland's strongest man competition and came out sixth in the 2011 World Strongest Man Contest.
Holy shit, dude.
Wow.
That is a giant, giant dude.
Fucking A, man.
He bench presses 500 pounds, and he weighs 400 pounds.
Somehow I think he's a pussy.
That's all you can do, bitch.
How much you bench, bro?
I saw NFL linemen talking about you can bench 600 pounds.
He was talking shit to the guys in the room with him.
Like, you ain't big like me.
You ain't got shit on me.
Mark Bell, you know the dude who's been
on our podcast before and his brother Chris
from Bigger Stronger Faster.
He just had some shit on his Instagram
the other day where he's benching way over
500 pounds. He's
fucking gorilla strong.
Like that guy is huge.
Fucking huge. And that's all he wants to guy is huge. Fucking huge.
And that's all he wants to do is just lift heavy shit.
He's got an awesome gym.
Created this product.
575, it says.
Is that what he's lifting?
Yeah.
Watch this shit.
What kind of product did he create?
He's got this thing called the slingshot,
and it supports your elbows and your shoulders when you're benching.
It's actually a pretty interesting invention.
Look at the size of this motherfucker.
Look at how much weight he's pushing up.
That is insanity.
That's a quarter of a ton.
What in the fuck?
That wasn't him.
That was his friend.
Oh, okay.
Well, there's one...
Big Steve.
Oh, that's Big Steve.
Sorry.
Un-fucking-believable.
Yeah, I should know that's not him.
I can't tell.
You don't actually see his face until he gets up.
And then he all of a sudden marks a ginger.
But this video is of him.
I know on his Instagram of him lifting ungodly weights.
Still, all those big muscles, you've discussed it before.
You know, for jiu-jitsu and stuff, the endurance factors go out.
Yeah, for sure.
That super heavyweight division, they're going to be huffing and puffing in the third fucking round,
especially if they come in there yoked to the gills.
Yeah, I wonder.
You know, I mean, there's very few heavyweights other than Cain Velasquez that can fight like a lighterweight fighter.
You know, Cain, in his prime in particular had just this unbelievable
endurance threshold he could just put paces on guys they just could not tolerate and you would
watch it I'd watch it like ringside and I would try to think have I ever seen a heavyweight
that active that can keep it up for five rounds there's's no, no. The answer is no. I've never seen anybody as fit as Kane was in his prime.
Like, no one has the kind of endurance that that guy has.
But he'll be there again this weekend.
He'll be in that same condition.
He's 100% healthy.
I hope so.
He had back surgery, man.
You never know what the fuck's going to happen to an athlete after back surgery.
Back surgery is very tricky.
They're pulling pieces of his discs out,
you know, because his disc was impeding on his nerves, impinging, I guess. And then he's also
had shoulder surgery. He's had knee surgery. There's a lot going on. I mean, no one's a bigger
Cain Velasquez fan than me. I personally think there's only two guys ever that you could put
in contention for being the greatest of all time. And that's Cain and Fedor. Those are the only two guys ever that you could put in contention for being the greatest of all time.
And that's Kane and Fedor.
Those are the only two.
As far as heavyweights, those are the two.
Well, I guess you've got to argue for Doom.
Well, sort of.
But Alistair, certainly a combat sports athlete.
I mean, he's one of the most decorated ever.
He won the K-1 Grand Prix.
And he won Strikeforce and Dream.
So he was the heavyweight champion of three different organizations.
Just never could win,
or never has won,
or even had a shot
until this next upcoming fight.
Anderson Silva to fight Daniel Cormier
at UFC 200.
Is that true?
That's true.
TMZ Sports has confirmed.
He was bullshitting this afternoon,
Anderson Silva.
He put a flyer out with UFC 200 on it this afternoon.
That is crazy if he does that.
Because let me tell you something.
Daniel Cormier is a very strong man.
And he's a powerful wrestler.
And Daniel Cormier was throwing dudes around at heavyweight.
And sometimes people forget what he did to Rumble Johnson.
Jesus Christ. I was just he did to Rumble Johnson. Jesus Christ.
I was just going to say
Rumble Johnson.
Rumble Johnson hits as hard
as any fucking light heavyweight
he's ever walked
the face of the planet.
He cracked Cormier
on the button.
Cormier goes down,
gets back up,
weathers a storm,
and starts ragdolling him.
Starts breaking him,
takes him down,
strangles him.
Just broke him
and strangled him.
And Rumble's way bigger than Anderson.
You know, and this is 40-year-old Anderson. This is a very interesting fight that Anderson
would want that. Because if it was like the Anderson that just knocked out Forrest Griffin,
I'd be like, oh shit, yeah, let's see that. You know? Because Anderson's two fights at light heavyweight, or three.
Stefan Bonner was at light heavyweight too, right?
Wasn't it?
I want to say it is.
I want to say that was a non-title affair.
Because I think it was, that was a headliner in Brazil.
Find out what weight Anderson was when he fought Stefan Bonner.
205.
Was it 205?
I think so.
Well, Bonner fought Jon Jones.
Bonner's always been a 205.
He fought Jon Jones 205, fought Forrest at 205.
It had to be 205.
205 is the only thing I can guess.
Bonner has never made 185, so what am I even saying?
What's in the other box?
But I'm interested.
Is that just a new product that you guys have?
No, this is just a lot of weed.
Okay.
You want some weed?
No, no.
You want a Panerai, though?
No, no.
A cookie?
Plenty, thank you.
How are you feeling after those three things?
You know me.
This is like an appetizer for Uncle Joey.
This is like going to fucking Ruth Chris with you and getting the clams.
I don't know how you do it.
I built it.
I work it.
I've been training.
I've been taking this breath spray recently.
How good is it?
Oh.
How many milligrams? It gets me so paranoid.
Does it? There's something about the breath
spray that just hits you with this
burst of paranoia
and it's not the breath spray.
It's edibles. It's just
really potent edibles.
You start feeling...
There's a point on a plane where I get really good
on an edible, but there's a point on a plane
where my legs can't stop moving.
Yeah.
And that's the fucking worst.
That happens over a certain altitude with edibles.
My legs can't stop.
I got that crazy leg syndrome.
So with edibles, you can't fucking judge nothing.
These, at least I know, I take four or five of these,
I see the devil, and I fall asleep early.
That's it.
I fall asleep, I get up at four, and fall fucking cotton mouth thirsty don't you feel
like those feel the doubt meet the devil moments are actually good for you because even though you
you get all fucking crazy paranoid and weirded out and you feel vulnerable and strange when it's over
you you appreciate life more it's almost like camping out in the forest for a few days and not
having air conditioning and coming home and just having a nice cool glass of iced tea.
I sizzled after the first show in Philadelphia.
Sizzled?
As I was getting on stage, the edible hit me with a punch to the stomach that I thought I had to sit down.
When I walked out on stage, it was surreal.
And it kicked into the next level when I walked out.
Once the adrenaline met the THC, then I just ran with it, and I walked out, and it ended up perfect.
But Jesus Christ, you never know what you're putting in your body with those fucking things.
You never know.
You never fucking know.
Well, especially from new sources.
Do you see what I brought you, Jamie, from old school?
Rafael dos Anjos.
I brought you old school, Jamie, because that's how I roll.
What do you got?
Joey Diaz, when are you going to commit to a fanny pack?
I got it.
This is it.
This is it.
That's it, brother.
That's it, brother.
That's it, brother.
My man Chris sent me the fanny pack.
Oh, nice.
I got everything in here.
I got this reefer.
Joey Diaz has a fanny pack, ladies and gentlemen.
When are you going to get a fanny pack?
I got the thing.
I got the fucking lighter.
I got the fucking, look, I even got Quaaludes.
Check it out.
I got one Quaalude left.
A Cosby Quaalude, a Gorilla Biscuit and shit.
That is a big fanny pack.
Yeah, this is the real deal.
Is that the big one?
He's had more than one size, right?
No, this is it, I think.
Is this the one he sells as the Joe Rogan utility pack or something like that?
I think so. And this is hemp made too, right Is this the one he sells as the Joe Rogan utility pack or something like that? I think so.
And this is hemp made too, right?
Yeah.
This is all hemp and everything.
Everything he makes is hemp.
He makes geese.
He makes really good geese, man.
This is the shit to fly with.
Oh, yeah.
This is how I fly this everything.
That's it.
Yeah, it's easy.
You get off, you put it, you tuck it.
You still keep your wallet in your front pocket because those fucking, you know, those people
fuck.
People.
Those people.
But, no, this is tremendous. You got your keys. You got your rolling paper. Chris is a good dude too, man. front pocket because those fucking people. Those people.
No, this is tremendous. You got your keys.
Chris is a good dude too, man.
He's got a real good company. He's coming next week. Oh, he's... Yeah.
He's Friday night. He's at the
Ice House. Okay, he's coming in for EBI.
Oh, okay. Okay, you're at the Ice House
next Friday night? No, I'm not there for that.
No.
So, here goes, Dos Anjos
is about to get on stage.
Step into the octagon.
Looking shredded.
What do you think about this fight, Joey Diaz?
I know you've been wanting this fight for a long time.
You're an Alvarez fan, right?
No, no, no. I think this is a real
barn burner of a fight. I think so, too.
I think this is heart against
fucking tremendous skill.
I mean, this guy's got, like,
he's a great
decorated jiu-jitsu guy.
He's got, like,
19 stripes on his black belt.
This is the real deal,
this fucking guy.
Yeah, Dos Anjos
has a very good jiu-jitsu game,
but he's also,
his striking is,
I mean,
what he did to Cowboy Cerrone
showed that his striking
is fucking spooky as shit, too.
And what he did to Pettis
was even scarier.
What he is, more than anything, man, is super serious and super focused.
That is a focused man.
So who's number one in this division?
Him, 100%.
No, no, no.
He's the champion.
Habib Nurmagomedov is definitely the number one contender.
And the biggest threat to him, because Nurmagomedov beat him,
and he beat him pretty
handily just a couple years ago and then Nurmagomedov had a series of injuries had surgery
on his knee hurt it again had a lot of shit happen he's still aka for two years yep still aka
he Habib Nurmagomedov is a fucking nightmare. Nightmare inside the octagon. His grappling is so high level, man. You see, and he's so ferocious in his approaches. It's not, I mean, it's just, it's, he's he'll throw guys he takes guys down with doubles his his grip is
insane like he clamps a hold of guys and you see when he's clamping a hold of them they're like
whoa like he's just got this level of squeeze and this level of like physical strength and
the understanding of how to manipulate bodies that's just at a super high level when he ragdolled
dos anjos that's when it really opened my eyes. I was like, wow,
I did not expect that. Like I expected a good fight. I expected a struggle, but he did the
same thing to Nate Diaz. He beat the fuck out of Nate Diaz, man. And when you watch the way he did
it, you're like, wow, this guy's a tank. And you know, again, Nick Kersan trained athlete and
Kersan is of the belief that strength and conditioning is everything, man.
Now, where's Marinovich now?
Where's the old man Marinovich?
I do not know.
I mean, the last I heard of him working with fighters was BJ.
He might have worked with other fighters that I don't know about,
but he's a guy that I would love to sit down and talk to because he was a genius, man.
Super genius.
Jamie, where's Todd Marinovich now?
He's an artist now.
Stop playing football?
There's a 30 for 30 on him.
I'm thinking that they ended up dating him.
That was the biggest.
Did they talk about how the guy from the Raiders got him arrested?
I don't remember the whole thing.
And put the coke in his sock so he would get the lower draft pick
and he could steal him and shit.
Really?
Yeah, Al Davis is the real fucking deal.
I'm surprised Al Davis ain't Trump's running mate.
With the fucking wig, too?
He died a few years ago.
Did he really die?
Yeah, that's right.
He did die.
What the fuck am I thinking?
Rafael dos.
Yeah, to fucking draft you, he would do kinky shit.
So here's the question.
Should Bruce Buffer break out the Buffer 360
For UFC 200
When he introduces
Brock Lesnar
Especially now that
Brock Lesnar
Is in the main event
He's doing something
Completely different
What's he gonna do
Like he went to
Train with a gymnast
You know me dog
I know things
What is he doing
What's he doing
I can't say
It's a surprise
Are you serious
Yeah
He's doing like
He's doing like
A pink type deal
Oh yeah
He'd come out Like a Swinging off the Fucking balcony Like that Like that He's gonna like a pink type deal. Oh, yeah? He'd come out like a...
He'd come swinging off the fucking balcony like that, like that.
He's going to notch it from the top, dressed up like an angel.
Swing down on silks.
Yeah.
Look at Eddie Alvarez.
He's got two black eyes.
That's how hard he's been training.
He's coming into this fight beat up.
Eddie Alvarez has two black eyes, man.
I mean, he wasn't lying about sparring 150 rounds.
Very interesting, man, because Alvarez is the type of dude who rises to the occasion.
He's got greatness in him, man.
I mean, he's had some wins and some losses, nice inside leg kick.
But at the end of the day, this dude's a savage.
And the most exciting, biggest challenge is where he's going to fight his best.
And that's what to fight his best.
And that's what we're looking at.
We're looking at Alvarez in the most dangerous situation he's been in in years.
And the most important.
And that's where a guy like Eddie Alvarez will fucking come to life.
And that's what makes this exciting.
And Dos Anjos has to be aware, man.
Alvarez is no fucking joke.
He's got to mind his P's and Q's As he makes his way in
The difference is Dos Anjos throws a lot of kicks
And Alvarez threw a couple
Nice inside leg kicks
But that's generally not what he does
Once he starts brawling
Once he starts brawling he'll widen his stance
And throw bombs
Whereas Dos Anjos will stick with the kickboxing game
He'll stick Kicking those legs and mixing things up and throw bombs, whereas Dos Anjos will stick with the kickboxing game.
He'll stick kicking those legs and mixing things up.
It's just a matter of whose strategy works the best.
But I like that Alvarez came out with those kicks,
but he hasn't thrown very many since.
You know, Joe Rogan, what a weird gift to have,
to be a professional fighter, 150-fucking-5. jesus what a weird choice you know dangerous choice in life man crazy just unbelievably difficult journey you're on
especially at this level i mean look how good these guys are dos anjos just caught him at the
end with that left hand and fatigue may very well play a
factor in this fight because one of the things again about dos anjos not the harp on this but
his conditioning is exceptional what he did with with pettis in particular oh guillotine guillotine
eddie's in trouble this motherfucker's got squeeze Eddie's gotta fight those hands off
oh nice knee on the break
when you feel that clamp
those guys are the really good guillotine
like you can see it when they clamp on to dudes
you're like whoa
like um
Hanayaya you ever see that guy fight?
Hanyaya is this tiny
gentleman. I mean, I think
he used to fight at 135.
Now he's 125, right?
Isn't Hanyaya at 130? He's either 135
or 125. He's not the biggest guy
in the world. Find out what weight he is.
I think he's a flyweight now. I might be wrong.
But anyway,
he doesn't look like a bodybuilder or anything oh
del san jos caught him with that left high kick and that's what i'm talking about like he can
he can add in oh he almost left him oh jesus christ oh jesus fucking christ oh jesus fucking
christ oh jesus fucking christ jesus oh j He's going to win. Jesus fucking Christ.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Jesus.
This is fucking tremendous.
Look at this.
Oh, he decked him again.
This is heart against fucking skill, Joe Rogan.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, flying me.
Nothing but fucking heart.
Oh, no.
Nothing but fucking heart.
He went down like this.
Oh, Jesus.
Side control.
Oh, Alvarez is back up.
Yeah, but he doesn't know where he is.
He doesn't know where he is.
Alvarez is back up.
He takes him down. He doesn't know where he is. Alvarez is back up and he takes him down.
He doesn't know where he is.
This is heart against fucking skill.
I'm telling you, cocksuckers.
I've been waiting for this fucking fight for three fucking months.
This is what I'm talking about.
This is what the fucking problem is.
Look at you, I'm saying.
Look at his body.
Every once in a while, you run into a brick fucking wall.
This guy, Diaz.
The fucking, these people, savages.
Look at this shit.
You got to kill this motherfucker.
That's it.
That's it.
It's fucking over.
There's a new 155.
Where's Conor McGregor now?
Where's Conor McGregor now?
This kid's Philadelphia, you dumb motherfuckers.
Eddie Alvarez.
This is crazy. I told you this was the fight of the fucking year, you dumb motherfuckers. Eddie Alvarez. This is crazy.
I told you this was the fight of the fucking year, you fucking momos.
Holy shit.
Stop with your bullshit, Brock Lesnar and Mark fucking Hunt.
That's baby stuff compared to this.
God damn, Eddie Alvarez.
This is the UFC.
God damn, Eddie Alvarez.
I told you I was excited when you called me.
This is the fucking fight of the year, cocksuckers. Holy shit, Eddie Alvarez I told you I was excited when you called me This is the fucking fight of the year Cocksuckers
Holy shit Eddie Alvarez
Jesus I got an anxiety attack
He looks fantastic
That's what I'm fucking talking about
That was spectacular man
150 rounds Joe Rogan
Fucking spectacular look at this
Boom look at that right hand landed
There the legs go
Oh shit boom boom boom Let's do that again Fucking spectacular. Look at this. Boom. Look at that right hand landed. There the legs go. Oh, shit.
Boom, boom, boom.
Let's do that again.
Wham.
Oh, he snuck it in right over the guard.
Oh, he did the chicken dance.
I'll tell you what.
Dos Anjos.
He weathered a fucking hell of a storm.
No, nothing for Dos Anjos.
They're fucking savages, too.
Conor McGregor, you better pack eight lunches if you want to fuck with these motherfuckers.
These motherfuckers.
I told you, this is the deck five.
Oh my god, Eddie Alvarez.
Look at these combinations.
Look at this shit.
Are you fucking kidding me, America?
Fuck you and your dumb fights, Mark Hunter.
This is what the fucking fight of the year.
This was it, Joe Rogan.
This is boy Mark Henry.
That guy is one of the best coaches in MMA today.
A fucking pizza dude from New Jersey.
Suck my dick, you fuck.
With your fucking machines and your bullshit.
A pizza fucking dude.
Suck my dick.
And his other client was Frankie Edgar.
Nothing but heart.
They show up with nothing but heart.
Yep.
And I'm a big fan of Henry's.
Big fan.
Fucking tremendous.
Winner by TKO.
New.
150. Are you fucking kidding me?
Eddie Alvarez.
This just throws a tremendous wrench into everything now.
Well, you know what else it does?
It lets everybody know how fucking goddamn good Michael Chandler is.
And I told you on the phone, Joe Rogan,
he came in, he looked through bots the first fight,
Gilbert, the other guy.
This guy's a slow fucking starter.
It's over now.
It's over now.
Well, the first fight, a lot of pressure, first of all.
First fight in the UFC, his career's on the line,
leaves Bellator as a champion.
But it shows you how good.
Do you see how good Michael Chandler looked in his last fight?
These two had wars over in Bellator, wars.
And Chandler just knocked out Pitbull in the first round.
Damn, Eddie Alvarez looked good.
He looked fucking tremendous.
I got an anxiety attack, Joe Rogan. Oh, my God. What we're saying, like, Eddie Alvarez looked good He looked fucking tremendous I got an anxiety attack
I wrote it
Oh my god
What we're saying
Eddie Alvarez is the kind of guy
This is hard dog
That rises to the occasion
This is the shit
Boom
Look at that right hand
We've forgotten
Boom boom boom
You see tattoos on him
Or a goatee
Yeah he's got tattoos
He's got his name tattooed on his back
He's fucking all heartless motherfucker
All fucking heart
He's an animal man
He hits hard too
Look at that.
Boom.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Dos Anjos took some bombs, too.
No, Dos Anjos.
Oh, my God.
Anybody else would have went down by now.
20 guys would have went down by now.
Fucking Eddie Alvarez.
He's a good dude.
He's just thanking all the people who trained him.
Look at this.
He's a great guy, man.
Good for him.
Good for him.
And great for the sport, too.
Great guy.
Great for the sport.
Really likable guy.
Really marketable guy.
Good for him.
Good for him, man.
You know what?
Dos Anjos, he'll be back.
Now it sets up some interesting fights.
No, no, no. Now you got Dos Anjos, he'll be back. Now it sets up some interesting fights. No, no, no.
Now you got Dos Anjos.
This throws a monkey wrench into everything.
But you ain't beating this kid.
You ain't beating this kid for the next two or three fights.
Alvarez?
Yeah, you ain't beating him.
This kid's a fucking Philadelphia guy.
He's been eating pizza for 20 years.
He's done.
You're going to give him lobster tail.
You're done.
Lights out, bitch.
Lights out, bitch.
I wonder if Nurmagomedov gets a shot at him next.
I wonder if that's what they set up.
You know, it's hard to deny Nurmagomedov his shot.
He's undefeated.
And he's the number one contender.
Look at this, Joe Rogan.
This is beautiful.
What a beautiful right hand.
He snuck it in there, man.
And he saw him do that chicken dance. That's crazy that he didn't go down, man. No a beautiful right hand. He snuck it in there, man. And he saw him do that chicken dance.
That's crazy that he didn't go down, man.
No, no, no.
And you count the punches he got hit with.
Oh, bombs, too.
This is fucking Carlos Condit Jr.
He got hit with bombs.
He's just teeing off on them.
Herb Dean, best in the business right there.
He just looks at it.
He's like, yep, I've seen enough.
I've seen enough.
And I totally agree.
Perfect time to stop
it herb dean's the best he really is oh you're breathing heavy jesus you're okay with it i was
getting anxiety though for real yeah just because you get worked up i love this shit this is my life
bro i love heart is my business i sell heart dog this is heart that was heart that's hard dog that's
not you what do you think you hang out with your boys and drink
non-gluten and eat cheese and
shit and fucking...
Look at this tomorrow, man. Look at the prelims.
Just the prelims. Kat Zingano and
Juliana Pena, Johnny Hendricks
and Kelvin Gastelum, TJ Dillashaw,
Rafael Asuncao, and
Sage Northcutt and Enrique
Mera. And there ain't a dime on that card, Jamie.
Look at the fucking Johnny Hendricks-Gestelman.
What is that?
Is that even money?
They're all pretty much even.
Frankie Egg is even now.
Wow.
There ain't a dime on this card.
If you're looking to make a dime, you better fucking bet baseball this weekend.
I got to look at the Friday early card.
Look at this.
Look at the main.
Oh, my goodness.
I can't make a dollar on this.
I got to bet Travis Brown is an underdog.
Misha Tate is now the main fight.
That's the main fight now.
That's the headliner fight.
Misha Tate and Amanda Nunes.
Very interesting.
Look at this, Joe Rogan.
TJ Dillashaw, minus 410.
I can't make a dime.
But look at that.
That card, that seems like they decided to have Misha versus Amanda Nunes over Brock Lesnar versus...
Is that true?
Yeah.
Yeah, so they switched that up.
Because just before that, we were just looking at it.
It was the opposite.
Somebody made an executive decision.
Well, they look at it and bet it.
They saw her with a bikini on.
That's probably what it is.
And they said, fuck this shit.
That's probably what it is. And they said, fuck this shit.
That's probably what it is.
She should be the man.
Well, she might be the best one to sell this card.
Yeah.
But also, like from a hardcore fan standpoint, you got to go, how the fuck is Aldo and Edgar for the title not?
Even talked about.
I mean, it's an interim title.
It is an interim belt, right? I mean, that's what's going on. Yeah, interim featherweight title. But it is an interim belt, right?
I mean, that's what's going on. Yeah, interim featherweight title.
But it is for the belt.
I mean, obviously, Conor McGregor is
going to have a hard fucking time making
145 again.
I mean, I guess he could do it, but how much more
is he going to do that?
Not after he saw this tonight.
Yeah.
155's going to be hell's kitchen, dog.
You don't think he's going to want to fight these guys?
Would you?
Yeah, Conor wants to fight those guys.
That's where all the money is.
Let me explain something to you.
That kid, not only can he throw punches, but that kid could wrestle, too, that fucking kid.
Yeah, Alvarez is a very good wrestler.
That's how he beat Pettis.
Listen, it's all over down there.
No more.
He's got to come home now and kill Diaz because what he's turning his back to is the fucking hell's dead.
It's the original room on a Tuesday.
You can't.
There's six people there.
There's six people there.
You got those two savages at 145.
And then you got now you got this fucking Philadelphia kid.
You got the Brazilian.
You got the fucking Russian.
Who else is at 155 lingering now?
That Max Holloway kid, right?
No, he's 45.
Well, those kids, the other kid that you talked about that stayed at 150, Dustin Poirier,
whatever.
Dustin Poirier, yeah.
You got a hell's kitchen down there now.
Yeah.
So the UFC just got-
It's a tremendous weight class.
Damn, Alvarez was throwing bombs.
Look at this.
No, no, no, no.
I told that being up on par.
Look at this.
I mean, these are like full wind-ups.
Did you count these, Jamie?
Wait till you count these.
He got hit fucking hard a bunch of times.
Boom, boom, boom.
I mean, full wind-ups.
Significant strikes, 57.
50 fucking seven.
He landed 57.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Bomb.
Oh, and you got Okokui.
Look at that. Total strikes and significant He landed 57. Look at that. Bomb. Oh, and you got Okokui. Look at that.
Total strikes and significant strikes.
All of his strikes were significant.
Michael Chiesa's number 10.
Look at that murderer's row.
What were you saying, Jamie?
That might not be perfectly updated, but...
What, the amount of strikes?
Yeah, just because they're both the same.
Yeah, but that means he just hit them every time hard.
Significant strikes and strikes, they can be the same thing.
The fight before with Roy Nelson and Lewis and the stats on screen were different from the stats on here.
Oh, okay.
All right.
That's interesting.
That's all I'm saying.
Okay.
Look at this, Joe Rogan.
So it might not be updated?
Yeah.
They're showing you're right.
They already were setting this up.
Yeah.
Nurmagomedov is a beast, man.
Well, I mean, he's been the number one contender for a long time,
and he's very skillful, man, very skillful, very strong.
If he can get through camp and be healthy.
But that's a significant if because he's pulled out a couple times now
and had some pretty significant injuries.
No one's a bigger fan of that dude than me.
I think he's one of the biggest puzzles, one of the most difficult puzzles to solve in the division.
And he was supposed to fight Tony.
But they had to postpone that fight.
So it would be...
That was one of the best fights I've ever seen.
Yeah, Tony had to pull out due to an injury, right?
Tony got injured.
Lung infection or blood clots or something. I was one of the best fights I've ever seen. Yeah, Tony had to pull out due to an injury, right? Tony got injured.
Lung infection or lots of something.
And that's when that young man who, what was his name,
who just fought Nurmagomedov,
the young guy who took the fight on real short notice,
and this motherfucker had just gotten, like, surgery on his elbow,
like, six weeks ago or some crazy shit.
It might have been less than that.
He's nuts.
Daryl Horcher? Yeah.
Daryl Horcher. That guy's a stud.
Took that fight against Nurmagomedov.
Nobody wanted that fight. Took that fight on short notice and fought well. Fought
real well. Especially for a guy
who just really didn't have any time to
prepare for it. But I think
that Nurmagomedov needed that fight too.
He needed a fight against a guy that may not, you know,
first fight in the UFC.
He might not have been, I'm going to sneeze.
Salud, coño.
Excuse me.
Might not have been as well prepared.
You know, I think that Nurmagomedov probably needed
to knock the dust off a little bit.
But he's out for two years.
Two years with injuries, man.
That's just crazy.
I had to go on ACL and something else.
A lot of shit wrong.
Then the knee got hurt again.
Yep, same knee got hurt twice.
Yeah, I think he might have rushed his comeback.
Sometimes guys do that.
A lot of guys have done that.
They hurt their knee, and then in the process of rehabbing it,
Ed Shortfuse Herman did that.
Hurt it, was rehabbing it, Ed Shortfuse Herman did that. Hurt it, was
rehabbing it, started training again,
blew it out again.
A couple guys have had that happen.
I'm still overwhelmed by that fight.
I'm still overwhelmed.
I'm not kidding you. My head can't even wrap my head.
I can't believe it. I had a funny
fucking feeling too. I was like, you know what, man?
This is the battle right here.
This is going to be a great fucking fight. Yeah was like, you know what, man? This is the battle right here. This is going to be a great fucking fight.
Yeah. But, you know,
we weren't in
fucking Vegas to bet it, so who gives a fuck,
Jamie? And if we were?
I would have bet it. You would have bet on Eddie?
Yeah, my heart. Just a yardstick
just to watch the fucking fight.
You got to give the kid the benefit of the doubt.
That's one of the greatest lines in any movie.
When the loan shark gives Rocky 500.
And he goes, you don't have to pay me back.
I think Lady Luck is in your corner.
I kept hearing that all fucking week.
Lady Luck is in that kid's fucking corner, man.
I love all that shit.
How much of an underdog was he?
Not much.
Two and a half to one.
That's it?
That's it.
It wasn't.
There's no dough.
That's amazing.
I would have thrown a yardstick just to watch and have a soda. That's amazing. There's no dough. That's amazing. There's no dough. I would have thrown a yardstick just to watch and have a soda.
That's amazing.
There's no dough this weekend.
Vegas took such a bath on Nate Diaz that now they've tightened their lines on fucking Vegas.
When Nate Diaz did that, they paid out hundreds of thousands.
And they said, fuck it.
That's it.
No more mistakes with this.
They got Ariel Iguani.
They got everybody in on it.
They're helping out with the lines now.
There's no more mistakes.
For a long time, you see weak lines.
You know, you want to bet football and make money?
If you lose in September, you're a fucking loser.
If you bet basketball the first three weeks of November, you're going to win.
No lines a week.
You know, home, the Knicks home on a Tuesday night, they're giving three.
Come on.
They're going to run away with it.
You know, shit like that.
That's common sense shit.
But then they tighten their shit up come December.
Yeah.
Same thing happened.
You know, when I first used to go to UFC years ago, just in my thought, not even what you would say to me, I would win money.
Then the first fight I ever bet was Sean Shurk against Frankie.
I was just sick and tired of going, I could have made money this weekend.
Because the lines were dog shit.
You would talk to me on the plane about generalities,
and I'd watch generalities, and I was a fucking dummy,
and I'd put it together.
Can you imagine somebody who knew the game,
like somebody who was a fighter?
You could have killed Vegas early.
Now, I think after Diaz, whatever, because I always look.
I always look.
It's in my blood.
I got to look.
But after Diaz, there's no more mistakes.
And then they used to have a lot of mistakes on the undercards.
Because listen, you're going to gamble to
make money. If you want to be Houdini,
you might as well go get your palm read.
That's not gambling. Gambling is to
make money and to put your
percentages higher to make a fucking living.
So it doesn't matter what I bet.
Well, I had Ronda. It doesn't really
fucking matter if you had Holly Holm,
because some idiot in Tennessee bet $200,000 on the opening fight
that nobody looked at, because he knew that the fucking kid, you know, whatever.
There's been some times where we brought in guys where I would look at the line,
and I'd know who they were, and I'd know how good they were.
And I'd be like, this line's crazy.
Yeah, they don't know.
There's been a few times.
Nobody fucking knows.
Nobody really knows.
But you also have a thing in the UFC called first-time jitters.
The crowd grows.
So you don't really know how to judge it.
There's some guys you know won't get first-round jitters.
There's a certain level of guy that operates at such a professional level
that they pretty much always operate at that level.
It's weird.
You can kind of guess when guys won't get UFC jitters.
It's real weird, man.
I can't guess.
You're that good.
I can't.
I don't know where they're coming from or what organization.
There's only a few guys who haven't gotten it.
And I haven't really followed them, so.
Alistair didn't get UFC jitters at all.
At all.
And when he came to the UFC, it was when, you know,
drug testing was a little bit different.
That's right.
But he watched that Brock fight.
He just kicked him right in the fucking side.
Not only that, that was his first fight in the UFC.
So everybody's waiting to see him.
And I've been waiting to see him forever.
So, you know, I'm a big kickboxing fan.
And he was the K-1 Grand Prix champion.
And I'd watch his kickboxing matches with he was the k1 grand prix champion and i'd watch this
kickboxing match with badr hari and gokan saki and i mean he's a world-class kickboxer so i was
like if this guy can keep people off him there's a lot of people that are fucked because this is
you're gonna see some stupid high level striking i mean his striking is very clean man real dangerous
especially when he was jacked, when he was super
uber-eem.
He's one of those guys, man.
So when I saw
him fight in the UFC, I'm like, this guy's not going to have
first-round jitters. He's not going to have first-fight jitters.
He's just fought too many times.
He's fought in Pride. He's fought in Dream.
He's fought in K-1.
He was a Strikeforce heavyweight champion.
He was a Dream heavyweight champion. He's not going to get rattled.
And that was his first fight, Brock?
Yep.
I don't remember.
I mean, he might lose.
He just came in and went for that fucking stomach.
Played that fight.
Kneed him.
Pulled that fight up.
Kicked him in the stomach.
Yeah, find the Brock Lesnar, Alistair Overeem fight.
Because that, I just want to look at Overeem's body real quick.
Because when that guy...
It's on Fight Pass, right?
Yeah, you can find it on Fight Pass, I'm sure.
The stream has ended.
Thank you for watching.
Goddamn, Eddie Alvarez.
Congratulations.
You fucking savage.
Is there a...
You know what we got to get, dude?
We got to get the new Apple TV.
Because this old Apple TV is dog shit compared to the new one.
The new one's badass.
Oh, the new one.
And you really like that watch.
I talked to one of you the other day with Red Band.
Red Band.
I wouldn't buy it, but Red Band has it.
It is dope.
How much is it?
I don't know.
Which one was it?
Apple Watch?
No, which?
Oh.
Boy, it's after 100.
Brock versus Overeem.
I wouldn't say it was more than 141.
There it is.
Wow.
Yeah.
6'5", 256 versus 6'3", 265.
Let me tell you something.
They both weighed 265 because I remember them weighing in.
I don't think Alistair weighed a hair under like 260.
They're both like the same weight, I think.
God, it's hard to remember.
Yeah, see, this thing is wacko-dicious.
The new one, you can kind of, okay, I'll do it.
The new one, you swipe your finger across,
you could pick a point.
It's got like a swipe pad on it.
Just like your keypad on your laptop.
Is that kind of thing?
The new one's dope.
And you can talk into it, Joey Diaz.
What?
You can talk into your Apple TV remote.
And tell it what?
Tell it what you want to watch.
No shit.
What was that movie that you were in?
The what that saved Christmas?
The dog that saved Christmas. The dog that saved Christmas. By the way. I told you before I'll tell you again My kids love that fucking movie still they love it. They still watch it. Love it. Especially the six-year-old
It's like a little they love like eight of those fucking movies. Well. They love that you that's Joey Joey's been over here
They just like they love it. They love seeing you on TV. They laugh. They think it's so funny.
Those are fun
movies, man. I don't remember what my point was.
What was I going to say? You could pull them up with
your voice on Apple TV. Oh, so I could say
the dog to save Christmas. I'd say
it into the remote and it would find it.
Finds it. Just shows up on
the screen.
And you're like, yep, that's it.
You talk to the thing. Yeah, you
talk to it. It does searches.
We're living in the goddamn future,
Joey Diaz.
So, strange, strange time to be alive.
So we're fast-forwarding this thing
until we get to the Brock Lesnar,
Alistair Overeem
slugfest.
So, like,
that's a guy that I didn't think was gonna um have a hard time competing
in the ufc tim kennedy that's another one when he came over the ufc i'm like people have been
shooting at him in afghanistan for years he's not gonna get rattled coming into the ufc he was fine
luke rockhold same thing there's like a bunch of guys where you just knew they were gonna be fine
lorenz larkin he's another one robbie lawler when When he came back to the UFC, he's not going to get rattled at all.
Robbie Lawler is as savage as they come.
That dude.
There's like no pure expression of primal combat than his fights with Johnny Hendricks,
the second fight in particular, and his fight with Rory McDonald.
Just blood and gut.
And his Carlos Condit fight.
Both those guys, just blood and guts.
Like, fuck.
What do we got here?
Let's see where we're at here.
231 and 27 seconds in here.
Is our internet still dog shit, Jamie?
Has it gotten any better?
Wow.
What fight is this?
This is a long-ass time ago.
It doesn't seem like it is.
It was 141, but this is 60 UFCs ago, almost.
Manny Gamburian.
I've got to move this up a little bit here.
So, Joey Diaz, where are you doing your special?
Chicago.
Oh, shit.
Rosemont Zanies.
Oh, shit.
Blue collar like a motherfucker.
Like a motherfucker.
After my surgery, I start full-time training.
Only hour sets.
You know, I'm going to go fucking commando here.
Damn, Joey Diaz.
I got to go GSP here.
Damn.
I got to take it back to the roots.
I got to coach.
I got everything.
Old school.
You got a comedy coach?
Yeah.
Who's your comedy coach?
Red Fox. How's he helping you? I don't know. You got a comedy coach? Yeah. Who's your comedy coach? Red Fox.
How's he helping you?
I don't know.
From the grave?
From the grave.
Like, he talked to Eddie Griffin in the bathroom at the comedy store.
I'm going to summon him to my fucking house with some chickens.
You know what I'm saying?
Something.
Do you remember that?
Come on.
I'll never forget that horrible fucking scene.
Even though the movie was...
That movie was ridiculous.
It was hilarious.
I love movies like that.
Foolish Ways.
That's my personal roadhouse, brother.
Remember his name was Foolish Ways?
Foolish, yeah.
The green light, the red light, it was different.
Whatever, something with the light.
Hilarious.
You thought I forgot this shit, did you?
Hilarious.
That was a Master P production.
Oh, look at Nate Diaz.
He looks like a young boy here.
Nate Diaz, winner by unanimous decision.
He looks so young.
So now Overeem is standing in the cage.
This is weird.
They're showing Nate Diaz backstage
while Overeem is fighting,
about to fight Brock Lesnar.
I don't understand what's going on here.
Oh, okay.
The Brock Lesnar fight.
I fast-forwarded through it.
Whoopsies.
So are you self-producing this thing?
No, this is New Wave.
Which is, what's New Wave?
They did all those specials.
They did a bunch of specials.
They did Thompson Gurus.
This doesn't make any sense.
I feel like the Manny Gambirian fight, they might have showed it afterwards.
It doesn't make sense.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it is. Maybe
it is. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, it must be. The Manny Gambirian fight must have
been a fight that they showed after the main event because the main event happened quick.
There's two minutes left. What the fuck? Yeah, we always do that, which is actually kind
of cool. You get to see some of the prelims, some of the excellent prelim fights. All right,
so we're going to take this back to two hours in.
That's probably when the fight took place.
So they did Tom Segura's too, is that what you said?
Yeah, they did a bunch of people.
They did Ali Wong.
I heard Ali Wong at the comedy store the other night.
She was fucking hilarious.
Dog, she's always hilarious.
She's hilarious.
And when she was pregnant up there, when she was ready to bust.
She did her special when she was pregnant. Dog, she was was ready to bust. She did her special when she was pregnant.
She was killing me one night.
On a Sunday night, I went down there, and she went up like two before me.
I went in the backstone to the gills, and she said some shit that my fucking jaw dropped.
I couldn't stop laughing.
It's her delivery, her voice.
Yeah.
She's got that shit down to a science, man.
She's very good.
Look at the size of that motherfucker back then.
God damn, Uber Eats.
It was ridiculously big back then.
Here we go.
So you're fucking eating.
You're shooting.
You're eating edible.
What are you doing to get that big dog?
Him?
Yeah, you're doing jeans.
His is his jeans.
A big part of it is his jeans.
You're doing T-ball.
You're doing fucking dead man.
You're doing Viking cum.
That's what you're doing.
You're eating fucking anivar.
You're eating fucking 16 eggs for breakfast.
But all that stuff is not going to give you that bone structure
That bone structure is insane
I mean he's built like a fucking shaved down gorilla
There's no one built like that guy
I mean that is one of the biggest
Who are you talking about?
Athletes you're ever going to see in the heavyweight division
Both of these guys
Yeah both of these guys
Both of these guys
Now this is pre-Uber or
This is Uber
This is Uberium
This is when you look at the size of him
He's fucking jackmified here.
Watching the, when they.
He's got lean muscle, man.
263.
There it goes.
Alistair weighed 263.
Brock weighed 266.
It's fucking crazy.
That's so heavy.
He's got to cut weight to make 266, too.
It's like, whoa, Brock, fucking made it.
He's way bigger than 266.
He's huge.
He probably weighs 280, 285.
I bet he cuts.
I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in time he cut as much as 20 pounds.
Those guys get that big, and they've been playing football all their life.
They just developed this wild quickness, Joe.
They don't play baseball growing up.
They throw that fucking thing at track.
Well, have you ever seen his combine numbers?
No.
They're ridiculous.
Come on.
Oh, they're crazy.
Brock Lesnar?
Oh, yeah.
He's an elite athlete.
Like his vertical leap, long jump,
the amount of times he can bench press 225 pounds,
it's like 50 or something ridiculous.
He's one of those guys.
He's a freak.
I mean, yeah, let's see what his combine numbers are.
Look at this.
He did a 40 in 4.7.
Come on, man.
He's got a 10-foot standing broad jump,
35-inch vertical leap.
And his bench and
squat numbers are ridiculous.
Jamie, what was Canseco's 40?
He did a 225 30 times.
Say that again? 30 times he benched 225.
Jesus Christ. 30 times.
If he did a
4.7, what did Canseco
do that year?
Yeah, Canseco was like fucking 4.4.
Really?
Let's see.
Let's see.
Oh, my God.
That's fucking, that's 40 bases.
That's something at that size?
You can't do that shit.
You got to write 40, Jamie.
Speed in the 40.
You don't think he ran it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They had it.
They had it.
It says he claimed a 3.9, but that's not real.
Oh, he claimed.
He claimed.
What?
He claimed a lot of things.
He claimed it.
Oh, jeez.
Well, listen, bro.
He's a serious athlete.
Look at the 40-40 club, okay?
Just hit that.
That's what tells you how many people in the 40-40 club.
You know, there's not a lot of people in that, Joe. He was that fast. Look at that. That's what tells you how many people in the 40-40 club. There's not a lot of people in that, Joe.
He was that fast.
Look at that.
Jose Canseco.
This is what I'm telling you, that to get that, you have to be fast.
And three of those people were accused of certain things.
Yeah, all of them probably did it.
I don't know if Alfonso Soriano.
But how many in all of baseball, there's only been 440, 440s.
Here we go.
Look at this.
Look at the size of that motherfucker.
And again, this is like, I don't even think it was a year after Brock Lesnar had some serious surgery in his stomach.
They removed like 12 inches of his colon.
Well, it's not just the size of Alistair,
but Alistair is highly skillful as a striker and just as big as Brock.
So like he's got the horsepower to keep him off of him
and his striking is just fucking elite.
And so all he has to do is take his time, stay on the outside like he's doing right now,
wait for those openings, and then when he finds them, make the most out of them.
And you see how he just slips away from that jab?
Like, you ain't going to hit him that easy.
He's going to hang on the outside.
He's not going to charge at you.
Look at that nice counter right hand.
Sees him coming.
Counters.
Super dangerous to strike with this guy.
He's so clever.
Because, like, he's had some knockout losses.
He's a human being.
I mean, if a guy like Ben Rothwell catches him, he's going to go out.
Everybody goes out.
But when you watch him knock out Junior Dos Santos,
and you see how he set that up up caught him with that left uppercut
you realize how god damn good he is
he's sneaky
and who did Alistair just beat?
was Dos Santos' last fight?
I feel like it wasn't
no me neither I don't think it wasn't.
The knee to the body. Boom.
It's fucking... Arlovsky, thank you.
The power to the body.
He stopped Arlovsky, right?
Yeah.
One scene, look at Brock Lesnar's face.
He goes, this motherfucker's going right for the bread basket.
Yeah.
He fucked him up.
It's also these body shots are so powerful.
His technique, like with his Muay Thai, his knees to the body in particular,
they're so devastating.
He's like one of the best ever in the heavyweight division
for throwing knees to the body.
Yeah.
Look at that kick.
That kick sent him right back to the WWE, bro.
It's the left kick.
Watch how he slips this left kick.
You could see it on his face as he was going down.
Fuck this shit.
Going back to rehearsal.
He sets up this switch kick to the body right here.
There's a moment where Brock is throwing the right hand
and Alistair slips the left kick underneath it.
No.
Boom, look at that knee.
Oh, shit.
No, that ain't even it, though.
That's not it.
No.
Here comes the kick.
Boom, there it is.
That's it right there.
That's it.
It was over.
Boom.
It was that kick.
That left power kick.
Backup.
Oh, I got the phone.
That left power kick is a thing of beauty man
But you know what
Joe he hurt him
Way before that
You can see it
On Brock's face bro
No he certainly did
You can see it
On Brock's face
He was scared after that
Boom
There it is
He was doing nothing
But hurting him
No he was hurting him
But Alistair
That Alistair
That version of Alistair
One of the scariest guys ever.
Still is.
Brock is like, fuck this shit.
What do you think about him and Stipe?
What's your thoughts on that fight?
Because you're going to be there.
It's going to be a great fucking fight.
You know, this guy's kickboxing is so advanced more than Stipe.
Stipe?
You know, Stipe.
You think so?
This guy's been in fucking Thailand and Bangkok and the jungles of death and Winklejohns.
You know, it's a different type of fighter.
I mean, I'm not saying that I'm not taking anything away from Verdum or anything.
I had a feeling he was going to knock fucking Verdum out.
Really?
I had a feeling.
I just had a feeling.
He wanted it.
He wanted it, Joe.
He wanted it.
He wanted it.
And those type of guys are fucking, you know.
So, boom.
Now you've got this guy, and they're doing it in Cleveland.
But this guy's experienced.
You know, if he's at Winklej's, one thing about Winkle John's,
those guys know how to put together a game plan, man.
And if you stick to it, I guarantee the percentages are high.
They put together a great game plan.
I'm not taking nothing away from St. Opaid's coach or nothing.
I'm just saying that Winkle, that's what they specialize in, Joe, game plan.
And then they practice it and they fucking,
and sometimes it works against them with Holmes and Misha Tate,
but it worked with Holmes and Ron.
They work with Carlos Condu and the Diaz guy.
It works.
If you stick to their game plan, you'll succeed.
Jon Jones, you know.
So who knows what they got in store for this kid.
Yeah.
Well, the way I look at it is Alistair's always a threat.
He's just so skillful as a striker.
But when I see what Stipe did to Fabio Maldonado,
who obviously is a smaller guy, but, you know,
just had a war with Fedor.
Did you see that fight?
Yeah, a couple weeks ago.
Knocked Fedor down.
Kind of got fucked.
Lost the decision.
It should have been a draw, I think.
But either way, at the end of the day,
Stipe looked like a murderer against Orlovsky,
crushed Orlovsky,
knocked Verdum out in the first round.
Man, it's hard to look past that.
Well, I'm looking at this from that perspective,
that fucking mirror, his confidence is out the fuck, you know.
He said he was going to knock out Verdum. He said it. You know, so right now his confidence is out the fuck you know he said he was gonna knock out red dome he said it
you know so right now his confidence is high it's in his backyard who knows all i know is right now
i feel this is a fucking war this is gonna be a really good fucking fight look at that knee to the
body good lord yeah steve bay's a tank man's a legit tank. And he's a serious fucking athlete too, man.
Works hard, real talented, stays cool under pressure.
He's a murderer when he gets in there, man.
So calm.
Like, that guy can fight at his very best now, especially now with all of his experience inside the octagon.
He's, like, seasoned.
You know what I'm saying?
He's seasoned.
You know what I'm saying?
I learned about Winkle John when I watched GSP's coach do the breakdown of the Holly Holm Ronda.
That was possibly one of the best breakdowns I saw in more ways than one.
I learned so much from that breakdown.
From what the eye at the house doesn't have a clue of what the fuck you're doing.
The people at home don't have a clue what the fuck they're watching.
What do you mean?
Like what?
The way he was, you know, why she was keeping her hips high.
Just little things that I didn't know.
I never even fucking heard of this shit.
Just little things.
And for them, for Holly Holmes to be that good at it, that meant that Winkle John and the other guy.
Greg Jackson.
Greg Jackson, Professor Greg Jackson, put this thing together,
and they drilled that thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of times.
So I tell you, Joe Rogan, every time you feel this hand on your hip here, put your ass out.
We're going to do that a thousand times.
I'm going to come to your house, and every time I touch you here,
I want you to drop your knees and she can't throw you.
You know, just simple shit.
I like preparation.
The preparation that Holly Holm had for Ronda was fucking money.
It was money.
And, yeah, Ronda was consumed with other things,
but I was very impressed with that. The preparation Carlos had against Diaz,
nobody thought Carlos was going to stay in there against Diaz.
Nobody fucking even came close to that.
And I learned something.
I was like, wow, I fucking learned a lot that night about preparation,
how they prepared for this.
So I like that camp for that.
Every camp has a different thing,
a.k.a. everybody accuses them of being like these fucking,
they go to brawls, you know, they have gym brawls and shit.
You know, I grew up in the 70s, Joe Rogan.
I thought that that was what was acceptable.
Yeah, well, a lot of people did.
So now, yeah.
And still do.
I mean, it's an argument.
You know, the problem with this whole conversation is no one's wrong.
You know, like Eddie Alvarez was right.
He did 150 rounds and it prepared him perfectly.
And he went in and took Dos Anjos out and he won.
So he walked into that fight with two black eyes, Joey.
I mean, that guy had been sparring some fucking hard rounds, probably having some gym wars.
So in his case, it worked out.
hard rounds, probably having some gym wars.
So in his case, it worked out.
Now, when I say 150 rounds, do I get Joe Rogan to duplicate Rafael Dos Anjos' style?
You get a bunch of different guys, usually. And I prepare for Dos Anjos' style.
I prepare for guys mimicking.
Three with Joe, three with him.
Throw Redman in there.
Throw Brian in there.
Throw Eddie in there.
So it's three guys that are all mimicking Dos Anjos while facing different guys.
Most likely in a good camp,
they would want you to try to mimic some of the movements
that the guy does. So I know exactly.
He puts his hand up. I'm getting set up for this.
So I know exactly how to react to it.
Well, Mark Henry, who is his striking coach,
is a very skillful guy.
We're going to go eat pizza there out of respect.
Let's do it. I like that guy a lot.
I heard his pizza is fantastic
sure it is it's got to be in an area where you can't fucking around you can't don't you'll shoot
you so he's got to be a good boxer yeah i've had some conversations about food with him he seems
legit as fuck i've never met him i've never seen he's a great guy you'd love him but uh his um his
strategy and his uh his understanding his technical understanding of like striking movements and
combinations i'm always very impressed.
Very impressed by the training and very impressed by what Brendan Schaub told me.
Because Brendan Schaub did some work with him for one camp.
And he said the dude had fucking notebooks filled with all these different notes about different movements
and recreating stuff and drills and all the stuff they were going to work on and what to do in this.
And they have different codes for stuff and and they change them all the time,
like 5, 6, 7, hit them with a 2, 3, 5.
It's all these codes that they create.
Apparently he doesn't want anybody patterning it, so they change it up.
This is what Schaub was telling me.
Schaub was super impressed with him.
And Schaub was like, look, if the dude didn't live on the other side of the country,
I would definitely train with him.
Well, you look at who he got.
He showed up with this guy.
He beat him, this kid up.
He had Frankie Edgar for three, four, five times.
Edson Barbosa.
He had him for a long time as well.
Edson Barbosa.
You know, the guy obviously knows what the fuck he's doing.
Yeah.
And.
His striking work with his students is very, it's very high level.
Barbosa's, obviously Barbosa's a fucking freak.
I mean, his striking's so goddamn good, especially his kicks are just ridiculous.
God damn,
he's good now.
He's on fire right now.
He's another 155 pounder on.
Fire.
Fire.
That's murderous row 155.
Who did Barbosa just beat?
Why you gotta hit me with this
after I eat 800 pounds?
Because I'm trying to remember
because it was stunning.
He was beautiful. He was beautiful.
He was beautiful, that fight.
Yeah.
Who the fuck did he beat?
Anthony Pettis.
Anthony Pettis.
That's right.
Yeah.
That was a fight where Pettis finally got a guy who wanted to strike with him.
You know, because Pettis has been getting these guys like Dos Anjos and Eddie Alvarez
who could grab a hold of them, squish them, push them against the fence, use their physical
strength in their wrestling.
And that was exactly the kind of fight that he wanted.
It just didn't work out because that's how good Barboza is.
He's one of the fastest kickers in the sport.
Perfect technique too.
But that's him.
He's very good.
He was good going in there.
But a lot of it you got to credit to Mark Henry.
What he's done with Frankie, too.
One of the most impressive leg beatings I ever seen was one that I was switching the channels.
And I saw Jose Aldo.
I didn't know nothing about no W-E-nothing.
Oh, W-E-C.
I was barely getting a fucking load of UFC and they got this other fucking league.
Now I got to watch this shit.
But I saw him.
The reason why I stopped was I just saw his leg kicks.
And the next day we got on a plane, and you were talking about it.
And I didn't know what to say.
Like, I was fucking, those leg kicks were something I had never seen before.
Yeah, he's pretty goddamn sporty.
He throws bombs, man.
He, at one point in time, I guess when he was young,
he was a really high-level soccer player.
And, like, maybe even had aspirations of going pro.
Could have possibly been at that level if he decided to go that path and instead went to jujitsu and MMA, obviously.
But because of that, I think, those years of running and sprinting and throwing, kicking soccer balls, he just whips those kicks, man.
They're devastating.
His fight with Frankie and his fight with Uriah is pretty good.
Uriah, that's the one I saw.
I didn't know who nobody was.
Dog, it's really weird that you were posting shit a couple weeks ago
about Ian trying to turn you on to soccer.
People from the 70s, we just didn't dig soccer.
Soccer and flutes.
We just didn't dig us.
Yeah, again, I'm going back to the flutes. We didn't dig soccer. Soccer and flutes. We just didn't dig us. Yeah, again, I'm going back to the flutes.
We didn't dig soccer and flutes.
I didn't know.
I didn't even fucking know.
I was growing up in the 70s.
You like the Pittsburgh Steelers.
You like this shit.
You play two-hand touch.
And one day, some dude at my mother's bar was like,
you want to play football?
I go, yeah.
He goes, go to Hudson County Park tomorrow at 9.
I go up there with my football, these guys playing soccer.
To me, it was like fucking a different language.
Yeah.
Like, we just didn't grow up in that.
It didn't become popular in this country until like 85, 84.
They started introducing it in schools and stuff.
My high school didn't have a soccer fucking team.
I didn't know nothing about soccer.
Mine did.
I knew Pele.
I knew Pele. That's it. That's all i knew about fucking soccer that's all everybody
knew that's how popular pele was you know he's like the uh tony hawk of soccer like nobody knows
anybody other than tony hawk who's a pro skateboarder tony hawk that's all everybody
knows who who rides a bike professionally lance armstrong but i heard he did steroids
you know like there's like a few guys that they're the only guy that anybody has ever heard of in that genre.
Right?
Who dives?
Greg Louganis.
That's it.
Nobody else dives.
There's no other diver.
Shut up.
Who swims fast?
That fucking pothead guy.
Michael Phelps.
That guy.
He swims fast.
He's about to fuck him up again, Joe Rogan.
Everybody else can't swim fast. He's the only guy we fast. He's about to fuck him up again, Joe Rogan. Everybody else can't swim fast.
He's the only guy we know.
He's about to fuck him up again.
Yeah.
Like, he's about to fuck him up again.
How is he doing?
Has he done any other races, or is he just preparing for the Olympics?
I think he's just preparing for it.
What?
I think he's been winning.
He's been winning?
He's done a couple races.
I don't think he's been, like, actually actively competing.
He had a baby.
He's done a couple times, yeah. Remember when he got in, like, actually actively competing. He had a baby. He's done a couple times, yeah.
Remember when he got in trouble for pot?
God, that was stupid.
He had to apologize.
That is so fucking stupid.
He could have had a drink in both hands and a cigar in his mouth
and no one would have said a word.
And everybody went, ah, the kid's blowing off steam.
He had an amazing Olympic career.
Think about, look at the gold medals, ladies and
gentlemen. Think about the pressure and
relax. Let him have his margarita
and his tobacco.
But if you catch him doing bong hits
at someone's party, you're like, holy shit.
And whoever that was that
narked on him? Should be shot and fucking
up. That's why I don't like none of that shit.
How dare you? They probably didn't even know what
they were doing. Just for the fucking record, that lets you know that that fucking reefer don't even hurt your cardio.
Because Michael Phelps is fucking kicking it up like that swimming.
It doesn't hurt your cardio.
Those extreme endurance athletes love it.
There's been a bunch of articles written lately on them taking edibles.
They take edibles and sometimes even stop at tents and vape.
They'll have like a vaporizer, like a volcano set up halfway along the way.
I have a friend that took a little chilling with him on a marathon.
He stopped at Port-A-John and took a couple hits.
Good for him.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I bet it makes the whole thing a much better experience.
It's fucking way better for yoga.
Let me tell you something.
I do yoga sober all the time.
No.
I do yoga sober all the time, but occasionally I like to go deep and go to the hot yoga class and get my stretch on.
Holy shit, man.
Especially with edibles.
Edibles is the way to go to yoga.
You just feel everything.
You can smoke.
30 minutes before yoga, you pop a light edible.
I wouldn't do 800 milligrams and you go to yoga. I'd take 200 milligrams, stretch,
and by the 30-minute mark of yoga,
all that stretching and all that release,
the 200 goes to work.
And it calms you and gives you a light buzz,
and you don't know it until you're stuck in a position
and you're breathing.
That's when you go like, oh, shit.
Oh, shit. You're right here. Right. And you're breathing that's when you go like oh shit oh shit you're right here right
and you're like oh shit now i'm feeling it towards the end like it's i used to eat banana bread and
go to yoga with my wife before i knocked her up i used to get fucked up in there you know the only
problem with yoga is you can't bring a notebook and a pen right you know that's fucked up and you
can't you know you can't bring your phone because you're an asshole and yoga when you're in that
downward dog stone the shit that comes out of your spine into your mind is creepy you start
looking at girls asses and the teacher and thinking about shit like if there's somebody
asian in the class you run again you get all fucked up in the class. You start thinking about green tea and shit.
You know what I thought about setting up?
And I might actually have to do this.
A voice-activated tape recorder for inside my tank.
Because I don't want to leave the tank.
No, it's too much sometimes.
It's too much.
Those exercises when you do that type of stuff, yoga stoned, when you're in there, it kills you.
Because you think of shit when you're in a deep stress.
Joey, you've never floated before, have you?
No, I'm still paranoid.
I'm a good swimmer, but I don't want to.
But you can't.
No, I'm going to go.
I'm going to go.
Becky's going to take me to Pasadena.
That's the biggest place in the world now.
Is it?
Yep.
That guy that opened up that float center in Pasadena is the biggest float center in the world. What's the biggest place in the world now. Is it? Yep. That guy that opened up that float center in
Pasadena is the biggest float center in the world.
What's the name of the company? What's it called?
Give the homie his props.
I'm not sure. I want to say it's the Float Lab.
No. Float Lab is in Venice
and in Westwood and that's
the best place on the planet.
This guy's got something in Hollywood too? Just Float.
Just Float has Hollywood also. Does he?
Good for him. I think so because Becky works
with all of them
inspired by us
talking about it
he's a good dude
I met that guy
at the Ice House
in Pasadena
I'm gonna go float soon
it's amazing
I just think he'll take
you know man
sometimes I go deep
and it fucks with me
for four or five days
like the other day
I remember I dropped
out of high school
who remembers that shit
do you know that
I would remember that no dog you want me to tell you something do you know that? I would remember that.
No, dog.
You want me to tell you something?
Do you know I went to community college for two years?
I did too.
That's the sickest part.
But without a high school diploma.
Yeah?
You could go to community college with a GED.
No, no.
I didn't even have the GED.
You just went?
I just went.
I just started signing up.
They asked me.
I told them, yeah.
I didn't know.
And then when I got the letter that had too many credits
that I had to transfer to Boulder,
Boulder was like, we've been looking for your paperwork.
We can't find your GED.
And I kept telling them it's in there.
And they go, well, ain't nothing going to get processed until we have the paperwork in our hand.
So it was like a Tuesday.
I had to go take the GED on a Saturday.
And I passed it, and I brought it in, and I got into college.
That's how I did it.
You just bringing that up made me remember that I went to a junior college.
I literally had completely forgot about it.
I forgot I fucking dropped out.
Forgot and got sad for a week.
I got sad for a week.
How the fuck can you drop out of high school?
Like, I was thinking like I was single for a while.
Yeah, you were single.
You were a fucking dropout.
Who the fuck wants to hang out with a dropout?
You got no future.
So you were thinking this when you were high recently?
Is that what was going on?
About three weeks ago, I'm riding and I'm out lighting.
And I'm trying to figure out a hook for the special.
Right.
And I'm thinking about what traumatizes you.
Right.
How can we go in?
All this shit they've heard and it's bullshit.
What really got to me?
And I was remembering, like, holy shit.
I dropped out of high school.
Junior year, August. Going into into senior year you drop out and i went in like in january and i got my credits but i was
three credits short to graduate and they wanted me to go to summer school and i was like you know
what i ain't going to summer school so fuck you so i didn't get to get my diploma and stand and get it
which i didn't really care about because
i had nobody to show them through the thing anyway so in my mind i didn't really give a
why i want to go there and embarrass myself and i should have now i would have done it but then
i just wanted to smoke pot and i just wanted to get out of there i didn't go to my graduation i
just wanted to get out i felt like that whole experience was just... I didn't like none of that shit anyway.
It was bizarrely frustrating.
I didn't like proms.
I didn't go to my eighth grade graduation.
I went to five-star basketball camp.
Instead, it was one of those snow years,
so you had to stay in school till June 29th.
I booked the basketball camp the 20th.
I didn't stay in.
They went to Great Adventure.
Fuck that.
You know what?
I went to a good school, too.
It wasn't a bad school,
but the experience was this overwhelming pressure of becoming an adult.
That was like the big experience.
That was the scariest part of it, more than anything.
Just the overwhelming pressure of one day having to take care of myself
and trying to figure out what the fuck I wanted to do with my time.
High school was good for me.
I'm not going to lie, no, but I had a great time in high school.
It wasn't bad for me.
I had a great time in high school. It wasn't bad for me.
I had a great time taking classes.
I'll tell you what, until now, I think I live a couple blocks from Valley College,
and I always think about why don't I go there at night and take a history class.
I'm an asshole.
I just really learned a history class that I've forgotten.
This shit just went out of my mind one day, you know,
and it's embarrassing when people have conversations and I can't join in.
I mean, people don't talk about history a lot around me,
but I'm just saying.
It's hard to get excited about a class
unless you're, like, really thrilled with the subject,
but I'll tell you one way to learn history.
Podcast.
Podcast.
I know you've been telling me.
Somebody else mentioned it to me once.
Hardcore history.
Dan Carlin.
Fucking phenomenal.
Fucking phenomenal.
Just tune into the one about World War I.
Have you?
No, I'll listen to World War I.
He's got a whole series on World War I.
It'll blow your fucking mind.
I like what, listen, I didn't like reading about it.
I had a friend that was brilliant, God rest his soul.
This motherfucker was a genie.
Went to Brown the whole thing.
And one night we would get high at night and I'd ask him stupid, creepy questions about the wars.
And he would break it down how Joe Diaz would break it down.
He was from Jersey.
And he would say there was this fucking bar and these people.
And I understood it.
Like, I finally, when I was growing up, I didn't really give a fuck about history, man.
I didn't really give a fuck.
Somebody was saying, well, maybe you quit high school because you didn't believe in standardized education.
No, I quit high school because you didn't believe in standardized education.
No, I quit high school because I was fucking broke, Jack.
I quit high school because I had to produce something.
I had to do something.
And I got a warehouse job, a union warehouse job at Mazbac Century Hardware.
Wow.
It was a fucking nightmare.
But I did it carrying chains, cutting chains, putting them in boxes.
Six in the morning to fucking 6 at night.
I loved it, Joe.
Damn.
At the time, it was $9 an hour, but guess what?
After 60 days, a fucking job opened up, loading trucks from 7 to 4, and that paid like $18 an hour, plus I would get into the union, I'd get my benefits, and you worked really
Monday through Thursday
because Friday you went home at a quarter to eight so I could
still see my friends. Yeah.
So I took the fucking job. Tremendous.
Going there at seven. Nobody
else there. Three other guys. Nobody
talked. I put a
Walkman on with a cassette
and I would just work.
Everything was going great. It's like
mid-December.
I fucking ate something, and I went down there at 7.
I just got sick one night, and I walked off the property,
and I kept calling back.
And then they picked up the phone, so the next day I got a call.
You got fired because you left the property,
even though I puked on the property and was sick,
and I explained to them I really got sick.
I went home to get a different shirt because I lived like two blocks away.
I just couldn't get back in.
And they were like we'll fire you. And then like a month later
it's like mid-January. I go
back to high school. I'm kind of broke.
I go down there to get my last check
and I bump into the shop steward.
And I was always smart. Whenever I went to
lunch I'd bring the shop steward a bottle.
He liked like J&B
the pints.
You'd give him booze?
Fuck yeah.
That's how you, bro, when he first put me into the U.N.
And you were in high school.
I was in high school.
And you would give him booze.
Fuck yeah.
What was the drinking age back then?
18.
18?
18.
But we were drinking.
Of course.
In those days, how we did it was we'd get booze delivered.
I think when I turned 18 was when the drinking age became 21.
Right. When was it? When was the? Find out what age it was we'd get booze delivered. I think when I turned 18 was when the drinking age became 21. Right.
When was it?
When was the...
Find out what age it was.
The scam in those days, Joe Rogan, was you weren't going to go get booze at a liquor
store.
You had to stand out there like a hooker trying to get some dude and bring him a pack of cigarettes.
So what you did was you found the liquor store that delivered.
Oh.
And then when they brought the booze to your house, the guy would say, fuck you.
What's the tab?
20.
I got 20 on top of it.
You're going to turn down?
Just say my grandfather's sleeping.
Here's a note from my grandfather that says fucking the booze is for him.
And then we got this guy on the tab.
We would just call him.
We'd be on a ride.
We'd be at a park.
And we'd make up an address, and he knew it was us.
So we'd give him an extra 20 on the top and
they deliver booze to you in those days that's a scam that went away that's interesting nobody
delivers booze and cigarettes no more and if you knew the guy the guy would stop and get you
a shrimp palm sandwich listen you mind stopping over a primo and get me a it's already called
in they know you're coming i'll give you an extra five on top of the 20. So you had this guy buying sandwiches for you?
People had.
I remember him.
We became friends with him.
We became friends with the liquor delivery guy.
That's hilarious.
The liquor delivery guy quit that and opened up a bar.
Really?
Years later.
Tremendous fucking bar.
Like for six months it failed.
He started selling coke out of there.
And there went the fucking whistle.
So they turned it.
The legal age was 21, Jamie pulled up, at 1984.
So that was like right when I was turning 17, they turned it to 21.
It was good.
It was good for me.
When you're 18, that means you're drinking at 16.
Yeah.
When you're 18, you look 18 at 16 when I was growing up.
Not to mention that New Jersey.
Well, you're drinking at 16 anyway.
Pretty much everybody's drinking at 16 anyway.
They get to a party.
You're drinking in the 8th grade.
Yeah.
When I was growing up,
you started drinking in the 8th grade.
Some guys smoked pot.
Nobody was doing hard drugs.
No.
Once that freshman summer came along,
people started falling off to the fucking waistline.
But this was the scam, Joe Rogan.
The scam was this.
No matter where you lived in the tri-state area,
New Jersey, if you
check all the residences in New Jersey,
tons of people had New Jersey licenses.
You know why? Why? No picture.
Check and
see what year New Jersey put the pictures
on. That was the scam.
Are you fucking kidding me, Joe Rogan?
So Joe Rogan's got another
brother, Nick Rogan. No picture on their license.
Oh my God. Joe Rogan's got Nick Rogan and Mike Rogan, okay, in the family.
You ready for this one?
Joe Rogan's a hustler.
Joe Rogan steals Nick and Mike's fucking licenses, sells them to Joey and fucking the genius here.
They get duplicates.
Would you ever hear Ari Shafir's story?
What?
Ari Shafir's brother fucking used his ID to, uh, he
forged his ID to get, like, insurance or
something like that. And Ari didn't find
out until, like, someone called him. He had told a
story about it on the Skeptic Tank, on his
podcast. His brother faked his ID and
got his own fucking ID card. His brother was a degenerate.
You have no idea.
You have no
fucking idea what these savages do now.
No idea. Yeah, well, I didn't know that you, there was a, I forgot that there was a time where
IDs didn't have photos on them.
That's crazy.
That's hard to believe.
Do you remember the days when you didn't have to bring an ID to get on a plane?
Remember those days?
Oh, I made up names.
You just get on a plane.
You had a ticket.
You showed them the ticket.
You had a ticket.
Nothing.
Ticket didn't have your name on it.
Nothing.
You didn't have to tell them nothing.
You could tell them John Smith and you could fly as John Smith. And you could give somebody a ticket. You could buy a ticket? Nothing. Ticket didn't have your name on it? Nothing. You didn't have to tell them nothing. You could tell them John Smith, and you could fly as John Smith.
And you could give somebody a ticket.
You could buy a ticket and give it to them.
Yes, you could give it to somebody.
And they could just go on.
I remember hiding coke in the lockers and putting the ones you had to put quarters in to get the shit out.
They don't even have those no more.
That's how long ago I traveled, Joe.
And I would go to a bar and drink and go back and put $10 in quarters, take it out,
do two more bumps. That's how retarded I was.
It cost me $200 just to fucking
drink and do a couple lines in those airports.
I forgot about those locker things.
Those fucking lockers at airports.
You ever been to San Francisco and you see the yoga
room? No.
San Francisco airport has a yoga room.
Oh, no, no. Okay, I didn't know if a yoga room was
a special fucking thing. We need to go to do yoga. Next time we work San Francisco, we need yoga room. Oh, no, no. Okay, I didn't know if a yoga room was like a special fucking thing.
We need to go to do yoga.
Next time we work San Francisco, we need to pull in there.
It'll be a long time from now since I just did the...
I was in San Francisco in 85, stuck at the airport one time.
And every time I went to the bathroom, I saw the same guy in there.
Pissing.
And after about six hours, eight hours, the guy, you go to piss,
and all of a sudden he'd pop in and stand next to you.
And he'd look at your dick for ten minutes.
And then he'd go to the next guy.
So what he would do is he'd look at your dick, go in the bathroom, whack off,
and then he would stay in the bathroom until you took your dick out,
went up to the thing, and he was lightning quick.
He had the foot speed of a fucking 4'3 Conseco.
He would run next to you with his dick in his hand and smile and look next to you.
How many times did you interact with this guy?
I didn't interact with him.
I was watching him.
You know me, dog.
I got an eye for purpose.
You're in the bathroom watching the guy.
I'm stuck at a terminal, okay?
I'm sitting there.
The bathroom's right there, okay? The bathroom's right there. I'm not in the bathroom. I'm stuck at a terminal, okay? I'm sitting there. The bathroom's right there.
Okay? The bathroom's right there.
There's like CNN. It's 1985.
It wasn't like it is now. The number.
The bathroom's right there. Another summer. My flight's at
6 a.m.
When I get there, I go to the bathroom
and this guy's next to me.
As I take my dick and wash my hands,
you just see what the guy looks like.
Okay. You sit down and two hours later, you see the guy going into the bathroom again.
Then three hours later, you're going to see him to the bathroom again,
and you see him walking out of there and acting suspicious.
And I'm like, this is fucking crazy.
Now I go to the bathroom again.
I'm delayed again.
I go in the bathroom again.
Guess who's next to me?
That same guy.
You figure it out.
He's a fucking perv.
I didn't figure it out.
I never repeated this because it didn't make any sense.
I mean, it was 85.
There was no, there was like a buzzer.
There was no people there or nothing.
There was like a buzzer.
You know, that's when you were allowed to walk to the gate.
Do you remember?
To meet people.
So this guy would just go to the airport in the daytime.
Just go jerk off.
And go jerk off all fucking day at the airport.
Well, there's something about men's restrooms that have always been places where gay dudes hooked up.
Remember where that senator got in?
Well, that's what happened in San Francisco.
Yeah, right at the airport.
It was like Minneapolis or something like that, wasn't it?
They used to have some weird thing they would do.
They would tap their foot three times on the ground if you want to suck some dick.
Climb under the stalls.
Because stalls, you know, this use some footsie room you could probably climb under a stall if you're a small guy
right what's that it was minnesota yeah i had a feeling it was minnesota yeah minneapolis airport
larry yeah as he was apprehended by Plains Close police officer investigating complaints of lewd behavior.
Yeah, he would tap on the something.
But that's just amazing that this guy is a Republican senator
and he's doing gay shit.
Or, how about this?
Maybe he wasn't really doing gay shit and he had some fucking enemy
and so some enemy has him arrested for doing gay shit in the bathroom
by a corrupt cop.
This fucking conspiracy.
Listen, dog.
If someone says you were sucking dick in the bathroom, man, they could crush your reputation.
Listen to me.
If somebody shoots Buddha over here and they come and arrest me and I don't have a fucking gun, right?
They let me go.
Look at this. The report allegedly, according to the arrest report cited by Roll Call, Craig tapped his right foot, which the officer said he recognizes as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct.
How do you know?
Maybe he's just got a song in his head.
He then alleges that Craig then touched the officer's foot with his foot, and the senator proceeded to swipe his hand under the stalled divider several times maybe he's out of toilet paper he didn't want to talk about it figured
you'd be a gentleman hand him some fucking toilet paper at that point the officer said he put his
police identification down on the floor so craig could see it and inform the senator that he was
under arrest wait a minute wait a minute you can't arrest someone for tapping their foot and putting
their hand out yes you can how can you arrest someone for that yes foot and putting their hand out. Yes, you can. How can you arrest someone for that?
Yes, you can, Joe Rogan.
You would be pissed off.
If you were taking a shit at the airport.
I would definitely be.
And you saw my gorilla foot with the fungi nail come through that foot.
Come through that thing and tap your foot.
And then my hand comes out and goes like this.
Look.
Look, Joe.
Like I'm squeezing your nuts.
You're not going to dial 911 on me?
That's a pervert.
That's definitely a pervert.
I mean, I'm not supporting his behavior.
But I just think you need a little bit more than some sign language to get arrested.
Isn't that weird?
I mean, come on, man.
Hillary Clinton, she has like 1,000 emails that had classified information in them.
She doesn't get arrested.
This dude just taps his foot.
He gets arrested.
Ten days in jail.
Ten days in jail.
The sentence was stayed.
Wow.
When I was like 18, there was a movie theater.
500 bucks.
It's worth it.
It was a thrill.
There was a movie theater, not in Newark or nothing.
It was like a regular suburb.
And we went there one night, and we thought it was like a Rocky Horror, but it was like fucking straight-up porn.
It was like straight-up Queen Liberty, one of those places.
It was straight-up porn.
And we went in there, and we hung out for maybe 20 minutes, and we heard yelling and screaming in the bathroom, dog.
Oh, Jesus.
And we got the fuck out of it.
That was the end of that shit.
You could run into, like, the old days?
I can't deal with it. Yeah, in the old days,
Times Square?
You didn't want to fuck around. Yeah, I mean, you were
involved in madness. Well, Times Square
in the old days, what people don't remember is
that you have Broadway. Let's go
to the map. You had Broadway and you had 8th
Avenue, which is probably the same. I don't even fucking
remember in those days.
But the movies started, like, here.
They were, like, G g pg and then as you
went up the block they got rr then across the street towards the corner middle where the x
devil and mrs jones you know uh they had to be first of all in those days you couldn't have like
a fucked up name like a comedic name you had to have a theatrical release name in porn in the 70s like that.
Right, like Linda Lovelace.
Linda Lovelace.
You couldn't have like a spinoff of something.
Right, right, right.
Like it wasn't like that.
Yeah.
They probably had out of the 12 or 13 movie theaters on both sides,
they probably had four movie theaters that were dedicated to straight up fucking porn.
Right.
And then they had one that was a split.
That was a movie on the way down,
two movies that were on the way down.
You know what I'm saying?
The Poseidon Adventure and the Chinese Connection,
they're on the way down.
And then you had another movie theater
that actually played three movies on Sunday.
But then you had the good ones.
They played the James Bonds
and the really good ones.
But it was just always scary to go down there.
I used to always go down there, Joe.
I bought IDs down there.
I played three-card Monty down there.
I wanted to win.
In the eighth grade, I saw Paris Pizziona.
He caught his neck on the fucking thing
with Ipa Quarters and the peep show.
Oh, you told me the story.
And he stuck his neck in there.
You tried to get his head in there?
He got his head in there because in those days they had three... You know, you told me the story. And he stuck his neck in there. He tried to get his head in there. He got his head in there
because in those days
they had three...
You know, I grew up down there.
You know, I remember
my friend buying weed
and it was that sex weed.
Sex weed?
In the 80s,
if you bought Penthouse
or Playboy,
it had to be Penthouse
because there were
a little bit more.
If you bought Penthouse
in the 80s,
the last two pages
was dedicated to...
Fake weed.
Fake weed. Yeah. And pages was dedicated to fake weed.
And it was that.
That was one of the grossest things about those pot magazines. They used to sell fake weed
ads and they were just
con-suspecting,
unsuspecting stoners. Stupid people.
And then they tell you don't open it until you
walk three blocks down. Really?
I just gave you $22.50.
I'm in the 8th grade. I'm opening this motherfucker right here.
My buddy bought acid.
They gave him paper with coffee stains.
Oh, God.
Like, little coffee.
He bought a lot of acid.
Like, you ought to be an asshole.
Like, the word got out.
That was like amateur street if you went down to Dubai.
But there was the last 50 yards of the sex side.
Like I said, so on this side was just regular movies, The Mechanic,
Love Bug, you know, it had an array of that style of movie. Then across the street, it would get a
little bit more risque. It was sex world. And towards the end, well, that block there was where
Joe, the 50 yards, broad daylight, cops down the corner, and you could hear as you walked
with your family
you could be with
your mom, dad, kids
and that's all
you would hear
marijuana, acid, brother
I got cocaine
I got some speed
motherfucker
I got tens
I got fake IDs
they're just selling it
right out there
right out
right out on that
fucking 42nd street
daylight
you know
packed on a Saturday.
Saturday was sucker's paradise.
Sucker's paradise.
And you would walk 50 yards in marijuana.
Marijuana, marijuana.
Oh, yeah, tengo perico.
Oh, yeah, marijuana.
I have speed.
I got heroin.
And it was all beat.
Because if cops caught them, they wouldn't even go to jail.
Because it was fake.
Everything was fake.
Wow.
And then you hit the corner.
So they were just getting all tourists.
Yeah, they were getting tourists.
Then you hit the corner, and they would dissipate a little bit.
And then once you hit that street, it would turn into three-card Montyville.
I knew a lot of guys who did that.
And then that's where three-card Monty would get the tourists, and you'd see people crying, kids crying.
And then after that, it slowed up.
Excuse me.
Then the streets met.
But that was a hell fucking hole in the 80s.
And now it's a big TGI Fridays.
Big TGI Friday.
Nothing goes down.
It's weird.
Nothing happens.
It became like the place where like top 40 TV shows film.
It became this like homogenized mall in the middle of New York City.
It was like the worst, roughest part of New York City, Times Square.
I mean, that was 42nd Street.
That was, you know, there's like these iconic blocks.
You know, Hell's Kitchen.
That was like right in there.
Times Square was like the place where all the lewd movies were.
Times Square was all the sex shops. Times Square was like the place where all the lewd movies were. Times Square was all the sex shops.
Times Square was all the chaos.
Fucking crazy.
Now Times Square is like a Guy Fieri restaurant.
Six years ago, you took me to New York City,
and you know, we're from here.
So when we go back to New York,
we're not going to bed till three, minimum.
We don't even start thinking about bed
till three o'clock in New York.
Right, because it's midnight there.
It's fucking midnight there, you know.
Or midnight here. No, midnight here. So I would fucking, I remember it was'clock in New York. Right, because it's midnight there. It's fucking midnight there, you know. Or midnight here.
No, midnight here.
So I would fucking, I remember it was 4.30 in the morning.
I couldn't take it.
I got to go outside and roll a joint.
These pictures Jamie's pulling up.
Look at that.
I went out.
Go full screen on that Kit Kat thing.
I walked around for maybe 25 minutes, and Joe Rogan, I didn't see a soul.
Look at this video poker.
They had video poker? Pinball? You could play poker? I didn't see a soul. Look at this video poker. They had video poker?
Pinball?
You could play poker?
I don't remember.
Mardi Gras.
This is just, it's hilarious.
Look at that girl's butt.
We tolerated tiny little butts back then.
You know?
She's like, look at all this.
Today, that bitch would be doing squats.
They changed the ass game somewhere around 2000.
Right? The ass game somewhere around 2000, right?
The ass game pre-2000 and post-2000.
I mean, you want to talk about, like, eras of greatness?
Like, the ass age is here.
If you want to, like, the asses of today are so superior to the asses of our parents' generation.
I mean, it's not even a fucking contest.
Because in our parents' generation, it wasn't even a subject of debate.
It wasn't like who's got the best ass.
It took them years to figure that out.
It was tits.
Do you think it had anything to do with those magazines like Maxim and stuff that they couldn't show nudity,
so they just had to show some sexy asses with a little thong?
That's a very good point.
And they're all sports-oriented, right?
Yeah, and that was right around the 2000s and late 90s.
You know what happened?
Chicks started lifting. As soon as chicks started lifting and you went whoa like it made a big
goddamn difference i mean there's always like standard meth measurements of beauty right like
small waist big hips you know hips to waist ratio facial features breast size you know something
that makes women extraordinarily
attractive to men, right?
But I don't think we knew how much a big, juicy ass really got people until the 2000s.
Or maybe the late 90s.
The 60s and 70s, we were breast people.
The country, and it was a different breast.
It was a real breast.
The fucking pink was a lot bigger.
The areola, whatever, was huge and thick.
And now it's become the breast, the skin tight, all the fat's been cut off the breast.
That's what you look for now.
The woman's body has changed over the years.
If you look at a playboy from the 1970s, both of you guys, you'll call me back and go, what the fuck were people thinking?
Yeah.
And they're still beautiful, but it's a different type of beauty.
Well, they just weren't athletic.
If you look at the women in movies in the 60s, they were drop-dead fucking gorgeous.
Yeah.
You had a fucking behead.
Is that Bo Derek?
Yeah.
She was like one of the first to have a tremendous ass.
Ugh.
But her body was just spectacular.
Betty Page, she had a pretty decent ass.
Hard to tell.
See, that girl needs to go to the gym.
Who's that?
Raquel Welch?
Her ass is probably better now at 90.
Look at that.
Whose ass is that?
Christy Brinkley.
Whoa.
Quite fun.
Unfortunately.
I wonder what was that chick?
She's hot now, though.
What was the chick that fucked Sinatra's head up?
Oh, Audrey Hepburn?
No, no, no.
No?
Not Audrey Hepburn.
The chick that went to fucking Paris and went up behind her.
Who was this?
Real exotic looking bitch.
I wonder what she was like in a bikini.
Oh, she was stunning.
I was going to say Tina Fey.
What the fuck am I talking about?
Tina Fey.
I got to get out of here, man.
I got to go to the store.
What time is it right now?
It's 10 o'clock, Joey Diaz.
All right, let's do it.
Tomorrow night.
It's time.
9 o'clock.
T-K-O-T-A.
What's the name of it?
The Cop.
The Cop. K-A-T-A. M-G-M. You o'clock. TKO theater. What's the name of it? The Cop. The Cop. K-A
theater. MGM.
You dirty freaks.
Ian Edwards. Here she is. Who is it?
No, that's not her.
I don't think that's her. That's another one.
No, no, no. I think that's his daughter, you dirty
son of a bitch.
He's got a...
It was an actress that he was in love with.
Didn't work out. Whatever.
What are you going to do?
Tomorrow, Cot Theater, Ian Edwards, Joey Diaz, and moi.
We're fucking psyched.
I don't know how many tickets are left.
It was almost sold out as of today.
And Joey, what else you got coming up?
I know you are at the Ice House soon.
I saw your name up on the board.
Are you there next weekend?
Where?
Ice House? Pasadena?
No, they had to cancel next weekend because of the surgery.
Oh.
So I'm just doing isolated dates.
They got your name still up at the Ice House.
Tell them to take your fucking name down.
They were supposed to have taken it down.
There's a poster outside that's advertising you being there.
I'll call Sean.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe it's a different date.
Do you have a date in the future there?
Yeah, I got a date.
For what?
Maybe it's the August date they have up there.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe I knew you were going to be there and I knew you switched.
I don't know.
Maybe I fucked it up in my head.
All right.
I didn't know for sure.
So thank you very much.
Thanks, everybody.
I love you, Cox.
Thanks for tuning in.
And we will be back on Monday with the great Chael Sonnen.
And it should be a fun time talking to him,
especially because it's right after UFC 200.
And I think Chael has a new submission organization.
He's going to do a professional submission organization with EBI Rules,
which is the Eddie Bravo Invitational Rules,
the best rules in all of grappling.
So exciting stuff.
So we'll talk to Chael on Monday.
That's it. I'll see you later, grappling. So exciting stuff. So we'll talk to Chael on Monday. And that's it.
I'll see you later, man.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.