The Joe Rogan Experience - #839 - Tom Papa

Episode Date: August 29, 2016

Tom Papa is a comedian, actor, writer and television/radio host. Check out his podcast "Come To Papa."

And to this house we're born Tom Papa, ladies and gentlemen! The Sultan of Sourdough, that's your nickname I love that, I saw that this morning Yeah, the Sultan of Sourdough That's really badass New York Times, they mentioned you in the New York Times Oh yes, the New York Times

I talk about the New York Times, I keep my mouth closed when I say it The New York Times I'm now friends with the New York Times. I talk about the New York Times. I keep my mouth closed when I say it. The New York Times. I'm now friends with the New York Times because of doing your podcast. What is he like? Or is it a she? He's a great guy. He's the gray old lady. He's an old gray lady.

Yeah. So when I was in New York, I went with my daughter. They gave us a tour of the New York Times. They invited us in any time you want to come. Because of the sourdough? Because of the sourdough story. That's incredible. And because they saw it on this show.

That's incredible. Yeah. Wow. This show brings me riches. Dude, this show got an article written in the New York Times about sourdough bread and starters. That was absolutely fascinating, though. It was. I had no idea.

Yeah, that's the new world. I read an article today in the New York Times. It was absolutely fascinating, though. It was. I had no idea. Yeah, that's the new world. I read an article today in the New York Times. It was so disappointing, though. It was some woman wrote an article blaming the patriarchy on women drinking too much. Sexism on women drinking too much. I'm like, is this the fucking New York Times? Like, how desperado are they for ratings or for reading or sourdough starter america's rising pet there it is yeah but there's a there's a better picture than that though i don't remember

what it was there it is there it is tom papa my little starter sitting on my counter that's awesome i was just stirring it up today there's a fucking really disturbing article that I read in the Washington Post this morning. The news is getting fucking super wacky. Glenn Greenwald tweeted it. The Washington Post wrote an article about this settlement in Israel. Settlement that Israel wants to not, the settlement in Israel that they want to, uh, bulldoze and they called it a miserable town, a miserable town that Israel wants to bulldoze this miserable town.

And they're like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Who fucking wrote this article? Like, how did you, how did you like the language? Like, I'm going to write miserable article. You're dealing with like dirt, poor people that are living in these horrible conditions. Right. Like, I'm going to write miserable article. You're dealing with, like, dirt poor people that are living in these horrible conditions. Right. And they just decided to go with that as their title. Like, look at this title.

Tell me, look at this. Israel wants to bulldog. Oh, they changed it. The ramshackle village. Oh, they changed it. Oh, really? Those fucks. But Europe is providing life support.

Wow. They call, it was miserable village this morning ramshackle sounds kind of cute ramshackle is still it's like they're trying yeah ramshackle is like okay if it's white people if you're talking about white people that live in trailer parks he's got a ramshackle trailer park yeah corncob pipe and he hangs out and drinks from his jug at night he's got a bunch of cars on blocks in the yard it It's not fancy, but it sure is ramshackle. Yeah, that makes sense. But this morning, the title was Miserable.

Don't you feel that writing in all of journalism, like it's all leveled out? Like sometimes you read an article in the Huffington Post and they suck you into like some article. And it's written by like a high school high school journalism student it's just sensational it it just goes like into three paragraphs in before it even comes out right like the the heading it's uh it and then you read some stuff in the New York Times or other places and some of it some of it's definitely much smarter.

But some of it is a little opinionated, has these little things in it, and it's lazy. So it seems like because there's such a rush, you can't spend as much time on stories. People get lazy and careless. Well, I also think that when people are at their best, they write about what they love. Like, if you read a really lazy article from a New York Times writer about something, maybe that guy would write an amazing article about handmade furniture. You know what I'm saying?

Because maybe he's really into handmade furniture. But there's a lot of articles that people are writing and they're just fucking trying to get them done. Yeah. But the problem is that a lot of that's in news. Yeah. It's not, you know. But don't you feel that way about the news sometimes?

Like, enough. I just can't do this anymore. You mean digest, news. Yeah. It's not, you know. But don't you feel that way about the news sometimes? Like, enough. I just, I can't do this anymore. You mean digest the news? Yeah. Oh, forget it. Yeah. That's one of my crusades. For real.

I have a thing. I get the newspaper in the morning because I want to spend maybe 20 minutes, maybe a half hour looking at some news stories. Yeah. And then that's it. That's all Tom Papa needs to know about the world's events, because I can't do anything about it. And if I just

check in another half hour, check in another half hour, 24 hours of that. Your day's gone. And you feel sick. You're paranoid, you're sick, you're upset. I turn the news off. It's a barrage. And I need to talk to the fucking New York Times about what constitutes breaking news. Listen, New York Times about what constitutes breaking news.

Listen, New York Times, just because Anthony Weiner got busted sexting again, that's not fucking breaking news. That's a pretty great story, though. It's a good story. But it's not breaking news. The New York Times is saying that's breaking news, though? Breaking news is war. Yeah.

War is breaking news. Right. Earthquake, breaking news. Right. Those are breaking news stories. That other shit is just a story. Yeah. Right. It's not breaking. It's not super critical.

But you have to keep feeding the beast 24 hours a day, and they've got to keep you in, so they have to make it urgent. Beast hungry. Watch this video. Insatiable desire for content. By the way, I heard the earth is flat. No, really?

Really? Nom nom nom More content And how are they going to make you pay attention to the content? By scaring the shit out of you Scaring the shit out of you or making you angry Or writing something ridiculous like Sexism is why women like to drink That is ridiculous

Are you sure that was the New York Times? Uh 100% 100% Find it Jamie Jamie's on it women like to drink. That is ridiculous. Are you sure that was the New York Times? 100%. 100%. Find it, Jamie. Jamie's on it. Because I was at the New York Times building because of the sourdough article. And I saw no such thing. It was pretty cool to watch. I mean, it was cool to, like, be inside

the New York Times. Well, this was my point about Huffington Post when you were saying that it's like it's written by a high school kid. It could easily have been. Yeah. Like, there's a lot of contributors to the Huffington Post. A lot of contributors to a lot of these online news sources. Yeah. How Wall Street bros talk women down. That's not it.

No, it was out today. Oh, today. Yeah, it's about sexism and drinking. Sexism and drinking. That the patriarchy makes women drink it was like the pressure of dealing with sexism all day makes women drink that is it's so unbelievably ridiculous but for anybody who hates those arguments yeah beautiful because it's so stupid that it's like self parody it's like it's so dumb oh really

that's what makes you drink because everybody who doesn drink, how come it doesn't work on them? It's almost like that headline is to a level of, this will piss them off. Yes. Right? Exactly. And here we are talking about it. Yeah. So she might be right.

You know? I mean, definitely women must face sexism because a lot of men are sexist. For sure. Yeah. But men are pigs. If you have to work with a guy for eight hours a day for five years if he's not gonna try to fuck you he's gonna be thinking about fucking you all the time and he's definitely gonna play like little games yeah see how far he can go see what he can say

see what you say when he says this look we work with guys when they are completely free when we're alone with a guy like when you're in school or whatever and working with people you know you get jobs with these men you know and when we're alone with them the shit that is said i mean right i mean it's unfiltered it is brutal about everyone in the office about their wives they're pulling out their parts. It's not the same story. This is the opposite of that. It says sexism isn't driving women to drink.

I found something. I'm not seeing something from the Times, though. Okay, I'll send it to you. I'll find it here. I'll email it to you. It doesn't matter. I don't even need to look at it. It's just an article.

But you know what I mean? Men are such pigs. We are pigs, for sure. You could be in an office with another guy and you know the coast is clear the stuff so yeah for him to walk out and we would both look at each other and go you know this never leaves this room right and that would be it what i would do to her in conversations and then they walk out among all the people and they, that they can keep it together. Like knowing what we know, that they can keep it together when they're mixed with everybody else is kind of astounding.

I feel like the more likely a man is to wear loafers with those tassels, the more likely he has to have these deep, dark visions and fantasies. Absolutely. You get out of him if you just get a couple cocktails in him. Yeah, because he's probably pretty wealthy. Probably makes a good living and probably has been married to the same woman for quite a long time. Has children. Probably has some sort of religious affiliation. Yeah.

Most likely. To offset the guilt. Depending upon the business you're in. Right. Yeah. And deep desires. The beast. Affiliation Yeah Most likely To offset the guilt Depending upon the business you're in Right Yeah And to deep desires The beast If you're living

Or you're working Well if you're working with that guy It's almost Crazier than living with him If you think about it Like if you If your wife works all day Right

Say if you work all day Your wife works all day You're not seeing each other For nine hours out of the day Right Right Travel time If you're This is if you're super lucky yeah then you come home how long are you awake for yeah three hours four hours at the most and of five and of those three hours yeah how much is like really good time with each other exactly how much time is like stop fighting

don't do that that's not yours no no Yours looks like that, but yours is different. This is, I mean, that's the reality is if your wife works with some fucking creepy dude, that creepy dude sees her more than you do. Yeah. Yeah.

I think work environments are very strange for human beings. I'm not saying that we shouldn't engage in them, but what I'm saying is that being in a traditional work environment

where you're working your way up the corporate ladder so everybody's full of shit everybody's like at certain point in time saying the thing that's the right thing to say for their career versus what they really feel about things oh yeah there's probably not a lot of room for opinion a lot of it is about the company and how important the company is and then fucking if you're you're lucky you get to like crack a joke by the water cooler. That's like your little freedom of the day. Or maybe they let you dress your cubicle up. You could have a little fucking Star Wars guy in your cubicle.

Joe's a wild man. Show him your socks. Look, I have the Death Star in my cubicle. I'm a big Star Wars fan. I can't wait for the next episode. He's the guy when people come up to you and go, Oh, there's a guy in my office. He is so funny.

It's that Star Wars guy. It's like that Thoreau quote. Most men live lives of silent desperation. And I'm sure most women, too. I think most humans. There's a lot of doing shit you don't want to do. But you know what I find, though? Like, people who are in those jobs, you know, and they get pretty high up and they're creative people, whatever.

They don't question things as much as we do they can't like you yeah but i think that's why they're able to get into it also i don't think their heads are i wonder if you know if that's what causes it or if that's like a mindset that one sort of like boxes themselves into at an early age. It's probably a little of both. Right. But I definitely have a couple of friends who are just fun guys. They work. They've been working in corporations their whole careers and they just don't question it. There's never a part of them that's like that's ever thought, oh, what am I doing?

They just got out of school and said, let's go. We're going to do this. And then, you know, watch the Rangers and it'll be fine. And they don't think about it. And he was always that way. Like he just kind of slid in and it's almost like ignorance is bliss in those situations. Well,

those guys generally like to drink. Yeah. That's a big one because the drinking is the best way to say who gives a fuck. Yeah. At the end of the day, when you're done with your work, you have a couple of pops with the boys and all of a sudden you're laughing. Who gives a shit

about the stock profile? Who gives a shit about the lawn? Who gives a shit? I would be in that environment like oh my god, he's acting like a dick to me. What is he trying to do? Why do they hate me so much? Those guys are just like, screw him, he's an asshole. Fuck that. And they keep going.

And they keep going. You got to work with the guy. Right. Exactly. What are you going to do? That's done. That's one of the things that separates alcohol from marijuana. Like, that's like the dividing line between how it makes you look at things in your life that aren't desirable.

It changes them like really radically. Right. Because alcohol, like, ah like that gives a fuck right but marijuana will go dude you gotta do something about this right this is fucking with your head all the time and you know it's fucking with your head it's in the background of everything you do it's it's constantly looming over you shadowing you like a backhand ready to what what about work this is why you don't read philosophy you're just just opening up, opening up, and there's no way to solve it. It's the pot.

It's a goddamn pot. That's why it's illegal. It would ruin this fucking society. It would ruin the fiber of society. People would stop all these jobs. I'm hoping that pot legalization coincides with excellent new robots that can do shitty jobs. That it all flows together. Then what do you do with all those people that are now running through the streets?

Oh, you let the robots kill them? The robots are going to eat them. They're going to use them as fuel. Didn't you see the Matrix? Each robot that kills one of those people wears its face. They're going to have a Taco Bell fan club and whoever shows up, those are the first people to get eaten. You know, things like that.

Things that are like really obvious robot traps. Water parks. No, but those are kids. I'm talking about for like grown adults. There's got to be some really obvious traps where the robots just eat people. You have to look at them. There's a few rogue robots. Like there's viruses that computers catch.

A few rogue robots found out they can eat people and they just go off and eat people. But they're very ethical about it. They eat the dumbest fucking people they could find. It's like a crocodile doesn't go after the fastest gazelle. It goes by that wounded motherfucker that limps up to the water hole and just gets jacked. The wounded old one that can't hear anything anymore. It's got one gray eye. Why is everybody running?

That's who the crocodile gets. And so much like the crocodile, the robots that eat people will become like the natural predators, the weeders. That's great. Of the week. Just walking through our culture. They know better than to just gang up and attack a city. Because we just make it rain on them or something. And they're all rust and explode or something.

They have instincts. Everyone shoot them. Yeah, we have guns. We know they're coming. We can keep an eye on them. But if they can just talk really fucking stupid people into traps and then just eat them. And do our bidding. Like a Taco Bell fan club.

Are you a fan of Taco Bell? We are too. Come celebrate Taco Bell fan night. And you go there. Come on down. It's not even free food. They just give away like Taco Bell t-shirts and hats and shit. And people are like, I'm fucking psyched about Taco Bell, bro.

I got three choices on my corner. I got Burger King. I got Wendy's. I always go to Taco Bell. Taco Bell's my shit. Look at this free t-shirt. They're the best. They're the best.

The quality of their ingredients is unprecedented. They get me, man. People will get fucking seriously into like it would be ridiculous to get that way about taco bell but it's not ridiculous to get that way over apple right do you know me put fucking people when i was working on news radio that was like during the days before os X so this was like the days of like Windows 95 and the operating system for Mac was all like it wasn't that good and the way I've seen it be described like the interface is really cool like the the way you use it was very simple and easy to remember and a lot of creative type people like to use it for a bunch of different reasons but there was no Memory protection there was No preemptive multitasking

It was like a clunky operating system For like high end users like They didn't code video games on them People that really needed them And obviously I'm regurgitating Regurgitating because I don't know shit about computers Other than what I've read These people that

I was working with on news radio were fucking radical Mac fanatics. Right. They were radical. And the news would come out, well, we're going to get them with this new operating system. This new operating system. To me, OSX was coming out.

I was like, we're going to get them with OSX. OSX. It was actually pre-OSX. I want to say OSX came out in the early 2000s. Yeah. What was before that? Shit. It was terrible.

Yeah, but you used it. I used it too. Yeah. Well, I used to use it too because I remember there was no viruses for it. Like no one had figured out how to make a virus for Macs yet. Right. But there was a ton of them for PCs. And I caught one once.

I caught one. I caught a fucking bug, bro. Dude and I caught one once I caught one uh I caught a fucking bug bro dude I caught somebody sent me a Microsoft Word um package you know a script or something like that and I read it had a virus in it uh-huh and uh then I sent something to a friend of mine and it had the virus in it it had connected to all my Microsoft Word documents oh and so but my friend was like a super genius tech guy he's like hey fuck face he sent me a virus you stupid cunt he's like he knew right away yeah well he scans all his email he's like super paranoid right so he scanned his shit and he found it was like yeah yeah the same the same working bro i'm disseminating fibers yeah i had to bring my uh daughters in to uh apple

because someone hacked all the browsers and just couldn't do anything. And he went in there, this guy at the Genius Bar. Someone hacked the browsers? What'd they do? Yeah, they hacked the browsers. Put a malware. It's called malware. How does that get there?

You get that from porn sites? I hope not. It's my daughter's computer. 14. Probably porn sites. No. No. It's probably only a gay porn though. It's probably from gay it's probably i know a bunch of dudes fucking each other if i was a girl i'd want to know what are they doing

over there and do i like it yeah you know because like guys if guys stumble across a video of two girls fingering each other while making out, like, real softly. Like, we get very excited about it. Like, whoa, look at this. Whoa. You know? Like, you feel like you've stumbled across something. But you stumble across two dudes butt-fucking.

You're watching a crime. You're watching a violent encounter. Even if they love each other, they love each other, they'd probably say, look, I love you, you love me, but we're going to do some dirty shit to each other for the next whatever minutes it takes. It's going to get ugly up in this bitch. Well, the guy at the Genius Bar did not seem to think that's what my daughter was watching. He said probably Spotify or Hentara. Fucking Spotify. Spotify and their gay porn obsession.

But he just went in and ripped it all out. He was just like, went in a couple files, like, oh, malware. Yeah, look. Look how they're directing you. Look where they put the stuff in your extensions. Whoa. Yeah, and got it all out. Fucking geniuses.

Yeah. Well, that's a real genius at a genius bar. He was. He was pretty good. Because that's a pretentious title. Genius bar. I work at the genius bar at Apple. Trust pretty good because that's a pretentious title genius bar i work at the genius bar at apple trust me i'm right the earth is flat stop it the earth's not flat not anymore it's rounding itself out over the years it's gaining weight

like all of us um what we're talking about oh so this malware thing, they don't know where she got it from, but they could just pull it out? Yeah, they just go in, they kind of just tore it all out. They didn't have to reinstall the operating system or reformat the hard drive? No, no, it's all good. I wonder if it shows up in Time Machine. You know how you do your Time Machine backups? I wonder if Time Machine backups have malware in them. No, I don't think so.

No? No. They just backup critical files. Yeah, and then it's another backup. But if the files are infected, I mean, there's got to be a way. How does Windows do it? Do you know how Windows does their backups? No idea.

Is it something that's done inside the operating system? Everybody looks like I'm asking, do you know how to do Morse code? Do you know smoke signals? Windows, no. Windows looks great to me. I'm so confused. And I know I'm an idiot, okay? Don't get me wrong. But I went to the store the other day because

I'm buying a TV. I wanted to look at the newest TVs, which are fucking sweet. With the curve? Nah, I'm not into the curve. That's a gimmick. It's gonna go away. Trust me. The new ones, the HPTI? Oh, the 4K? Yeah. Good lord, they look good. Do they? Yeah, well, they get

you at the store, first of all. Because what they're showing you is a loop, and that loop is like super high definition stuff. It's all leopards and shit and fucking perfect snakes and flowers and waterfalls you're like fuck amazing music yeah i just want to stare at it all day i just want to look at this all day but if you went home and watched like you know fucking game of thrones on it's not gonna look that good i know game of thrones

is not filmed like that it's not filmed in that super 4K. Yeah, what is? Very few things. Netflix is doing their specials in it, though. They are? My new Netflix special's in 4K. You can see how shitty I look in real life. Yeah, it's a little too close. You can see real deep the slow deterioration of the aging process.

He has a lot of pores. That motherfucker's getting the skin on his face. It's sort of loose. See how it's there, but it's not the skin on his face. It's sort of loose. See how it's like, it's there, but it's like, it's not, it's not like clinging on. This is like this. You don't go like from here to like, uh, like Ted Kennedy. It's not. Remember Ted Kennedy before he died? He had that.

Like a big basset hound. Yeah. You don't go from this man, manly chiseled face to that. What you do is you go from this to what I got going on right now, which is just a little too much elasticity. A little loose. A little too not tight enough. I want to say elasticity, yeah, because elasticity would allow it to snap back.

Yeah. It's a little too little elasticity. It's just getting kind of light and fluffy. I need more collagen in my diet. It's kind of falling off your face, And there's no way to stop it. There is, apparently. No, there's not. Apparently, the same doctor who invented Regenikine, which is a process that I used to deal with a bulging disc.

They take your blood out. And it's kind of like platelet-rich plasma in a way, except they heat it up. And by heating up your blood, your blood produces a response to the heat and it creates this yellow serum and this yellow serum They spin in a centrifuge and then extract that yellow serum, and it's one of the most potent anti-inflammatory medicines ever discovered Scott discovered Ever discovered in your body doesn't reject it because it's your own blood. And it has a great effect on people with like inflammation injuries and helping healing times. So what did it do for you? My discs were bulging from repeated use from jujitsu.

Just too much sparring and not enough time off and getting injured and not taking enough time off in between the injury and getting right back into it. Because jujitsu is really fun. It's really fun. It's really fun. It's like a video game, like that kind of fun. Or like I like to play pool. But it's way more exciting than that. And the only way you could do it, you got to do it with your body. Right.

So it's like you have this game piece that you're playing with. And this game piece is getting banged up all the time. It's an old controller. Yeah. And so I was developing some back issues from numb fingers. And usually those indicate that your disc is pushing against a nerve. So it means the disc is bulging out. So then I went through a bunch of things with spinal decompression. And Regenikine was a big part of that. So this guy who developed Regenikine,

all these athletes like Peyton Manning, Kobe Bryant, they all flew to Germany to get this procedure. And then slowly they brought it up to the United States, and now they do it in California. And they do it in Santa Monica is where I had it done, but I think they do it also in Dallas, and they do it in a couple other places, maybe Las Vegas. The same doctor who came up with this procedure has some new procedure that they're preparing to release, which is going to kickstart the production of collagen in people. And that is the thing that makes your skin look like shit.

That's the thing that makes your face sag and your wrinkles appear and your body just looks like an old bag. What, your collagen goes away? Exactly. Collagen is like your stuffing in your face, basically. Your mushy stuffing. Collagen is responsible for a lot of the elasticity of your skin. It's responsible for a lot of other things as well, but the elasticity of your skin is

apparently a lot of it's based on your body's healthy production of collagen. So we're losing it now, and we're getting just a little loose underneath the jaw. Just a little loose under this jaw. Thermatite. What is this? Injectable. What is this? What is this, Jeremy? This is a collagen injection it looks like. Just a little video of it. Oh, this looks like they're tightening you down.

Oh, that's a collagen. Right. People get collagen just injected into their face. They get collagen injected. How long does that last? I don't know. This is all new stuff that has been talked to me by people who have gone over to Germany and talked to this guy and had procedures done by this guy. And did it help your spine? Oh, yeah, huge.

It did? It made a big difference. Really? Big, big difference, yeah. Yeah, big difference in relief, big difference in recovery time. I did a bunch of different things. I was pretty proactive about it the spinal decompression i did a lot of rolfing which is like the super painful torturous method of massage right where they're like they're manipulating your limbs and digging

their elbows in your back and it's fucking the guy who did it good was this football player dude he was huge right big giant dude and just oh he fucked me up. Yeah. It was rough. There's nothing worse than when you get a massage and it's just like this little girl hand's just like. I hate that. Yeah. I'm used to the painful ones, but those are the ones, the painful ones are the ones that like break up the tissue and allow it all to relax and heal better.

And that helped a lot. The decompression helped a lot. That was a big part of it. So are you able to tell how much this process helped? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I got an MRI. Well, I don't know how much that process helped overall because I did them all together. Right. But everything together

worked awesome. So I don't have a bulge at all anymore. Which is really important to talk about because there's a lot of people that get bulging discs and they immediately want to go get surgery. And in some cases, that's the right move. In some cases, like Eddie Bravo, a good friend of mine, had a disc replaced on his back. And Eddie is a longtime jujitsu guy, and his disc had been squashed and deteriorated so much that it was essentially like bone on bone. It was lower back, constant state of inflammation. So in that case, the doctors decided it was a very smart move to replace the disc with these new titanium discs that they have.

They have some pretty cool artificial discs. Yeah, it's got to be good. But his was special case. Yeah, his was really bad for a long period of time. But there's other injuries where you could mitigate all the issues without surgery. It's just going to take a little time. Just like it took time to create the injury, it's going to take time to heal it. Right.

And spinal decompression is big. Like even those things where you hang by your ankles, just doing that a little bit every day is like really good for pain, really good for relief of your lower back. There's also the other ones you could do with your neck. I have one that's like a harness that straps to my neck and it hangs from a door. Oh yeah.

Yeah. And then you can actually pull it and it like stretches your neck out and like, you can feel it like relaxing your neck. It's attached to the door. Oh, yeah? Yeah, and then you can actually pull it, and it stretches your neck out. You can feel it relaxing your neck. It's attached to the door? Mm-hmm, yeah. It's like a harness kind of thing for your head? Yeah, it's like this metal bracket that clamps down on the top of the door,

and then it has this arm that comes off of it, and then a rope comes down from the arm, which is attached to this Velcro face thing. You put it on, you Velcro it in place so it's tight, and then you pull on the string. It's like click, click, click, click, and it's like just like a gentle pull on your neck i could use that right now oh it's great man i'm not lying that's it right there that's what it looks like oh you look cool too oh yeah and uh he looks like he has his head in a diaper

as i pull on that thing i can like feel the relaxation and if you do it on a regular basis it really does offer you some nice relief again no affiliation with any of these companies these are just some things I used you can put it

in the door jam and not have it land on your head as you're hanging yeah you gotta be careful because one time it did fucking ding me in the head

it did? yeah I was an asshole I didn't tighten it down right that's what I'd be worried about and when it came down it fucking dinged me in the forehead and left this big cut and I was an asshole. I didn't tighten it down right. That's what I'd be worried about. And when it came down, it fucking dinged me in the forehead. It left this big cut. And I was doing all this press for Spike TV because it was at the same time where I was doing, or SyFy rather, because it was the same time I was doing Joe Rogan Questions Everything,

this TV show. So all the press shit I did with a divot in my head like this. But for Spike, it probably helped. It was SyFy. I don't know if it helped for sci-fi but anyway um those things were all really good yeah i was just something happened just in the last two days sleeping and woke up yeah it can happen yeah yoga oh i love yoga yoga is the thing man hot yoga that fucking clears all that up i don't like the strength oh that's how to do it you gotta be i like this the regular yoga where i'm sweating like a pig already hot yoga just opens you up baby just the extra little millimeter of stretch you get out of it all no it's too hot

too yeah but it's also mental toughness you gotta build mental toughness 90 minutes in that class i'm tough enough you are what do i need it for don't know. How tough do I have to be? That's what I'm just saying. I just got to pick my kids up and try not to drink. I think sexism is causing you to drink. It really is. I've been meaning to talk to you. Really?

I mean, look, we all know that men are awful and we attack and do horrible things. And you've yelled at us now and we're dealing with it. Now back off. We know there's a problem. We're working on it. Don't have to write articles 12 times a day. Is it okay to only want to work with men? So say if you start a company, at what size can the company be before you've got to start hiring women?

Like right now, Joe Rogan Experience Enterprises, very small company. There's only a couple of employees and they happen to be male. One more hire. But what if we keep going? What if eventually I hire 50 people? Was anybody going to say, why do you have 50 dudes? Yeah. How come?

Because you're not meeting the quota. Is that really the case? Or is it that these are the people that I want, and I just happen to find out they're all men? You have to at a certain... Now you have to hire and meet these numbers. What's the number, though? The number is probably like 40% of your staff.

No, no, no. I mean, at what number does your... I could get away with it with two people. I think, yeah, I think if you bring in one more person really it's gonna be a problem yeah it's gonna if i bring in one girl it's gonna be a problem he's gonna hear some of the shit jamie says the mic's off she's gonna go what the fuck she's just gonna be quietly building a case jesus christ dude that does happen man yeah look at look at Anthony Weiner. Well, that's a different case. But I know this girl who worked with this guy. This is actually the sister of a good friend of mine.

Why am I giving you all the details? You're going to know who it is. Anyway, she worked with this guy for years, writing down any time he said anything inappropriate and building a file. But all anecdotal. I mean, all, all you know clearly her her word against his that he said all these things but she made this file of all the inappropriate things that he had said at picnics included everywhere company picnics she wrote a bunch

of things down that and she was thinking about suing the company oh my god they are gonna bury you are you out of your fucking mind oh my, my God. Like, what were these things? Unless they were, like, really fucked up. But that's the thing, like you were saying before, about why working in a corporation would be so bizarre. He's thinking that he has a good relationship with her. And she probably doesn't dislike him. You know what I mean?

There's this play acting that they're doing all the time. No one's really being honest ever. There's also the real possibility that you could make some money if you sue them. Yeah, big money. Kids grow up today knowing about, like here's a lawsuit example that's insane. There was a woman who was a single woman, a single mom, and she had this kid and she brought the kid over to my house

and the kid stayed over to my house for a long ass time. Like, she was supposed to pick the kid up at four and then she didn't show up until eight.

Oh boy. It was weird. It was weird. It was one of those weird ones. It's really neat. And she was also just slightly sketchy.

It was just something slightly, and this is one of the things you deal with when you deal, you know, your kids are going to school. Yeah. A bunch of different things you deal with when you deal, you know, your kids are going to school.

Yeah. A bunch of different people you run into and then you have to interact with these people. You're not exactly sure what to get out of it. So she left a kid at this other lady's house and the other lady had a little dog. I mean, a little fucking dog. The dog jumped up and did the pawing thing and left a visible scratch on the girl's leg. She sued them for a hundred thousand dollars what yeah what yeah she said the dog attacked her daughter might be 50 grand maybe she got 50 that

is gross trying to remember what the numbers were but it was like whoa like that was good this was this lady saying we're in you know know, we got a shot here. Got a shot here at some money. Oh, with people you go to school with and see all the time. That's how awful you are. It was just, the dog didn't bite anybody. It just jumped up because it got excited. It's being a dog.

Like dogs do. Yeah. And it, you know, I could get, if it was my dog and he did it to someone's daughter, I'd be very upset. I'd do whatever the fuck I could do to make it better. Right. But it's not like the dog was a biter. But legally.

Like a bad dog. Yeah. Legally, does she have a case? You're coming into a house with a dog. The issue is, with a lot of lawsuits, it will cost you more to fight it than it will for you to just settle. Right. So a lot of people just settle. Say it'll cost you $10,000 to settle, say it'll cost you $10,000 to settle,

but it'll cost you $50,000 to fight it. Like, that's all real. People have to consider those things. You should fight it, though, just to stick it to her. Well, the UFC told us to not take photos choking people. Uh-huh. Like, people ask you, hey, put me in a rear naked choke, because two people got sued.

One of them was Chuck Liddellell and one of them was Matt Hughes. The Matt Hughes one is crazy because this guy says to ask Matt Hughes to put him in a chokehold. People do that shit all the time.

Matt obliges him. Then the guy uses the photo, tries to sue Matt Hughes, says Matt hurt him and here's the evidence, the photo evidence that he hurt him. Then,

here's where it gets even crazier. They do an investigation of this guy, find out he's a cop. Then, they this guy, find out he's a cop. Then, they go deeper, find out he's a dirty cop. He gets arrested and kicked

off the force. Oh, man. Well, he's a scam artist. Yeah, he's a scammer. I mean, he's a scammer that just happened to figure out how to become a cop. He hadn't fucked up enough by the time he was X amount of years old that he couldn't get disqualified for being a cop. Geez, gross. He hadn't fucked up enough by the time he was X amount of years old that he couldn't get disqualified for being a cop.

Jeez. Isn't that crazy? That is gross. Yeah. I know. That's an awful, that's another reason why you shouldn't let your kids play with other kids. Yeah, you got to keep them at home, right?

Ugh. Don't ever let them out. Man, just the having to talk to everybody when they're picking up the kids and you know what's great they don't want to talk to you you don't want to talk to them and the kids won't put their shoes on and you're standing there for a half hour just staring at each other trying to get through it leave the shoes on and stay inside you know what i mean yeah it's hard but don't you love it when you find a parent that you actually like for sure oh that's an oasis. Oh, yeah. That's an oasis in the fucking desert. Thank God.

They're laughing. They're normal. Right. Oh, my God. They can talk to me. Yeah, I can drink with this guy, no problem. I can talk to them. Right.

We're going to be friends. Holy shit, I can't believe I'm going to be friends with a parent. Whew, we found one. I knew they were out there. Then do you have to meet parents who you know don't like you oh yeah yeah you just feel it you can sure feel it yeah you're always gonna have that man yeah there's gonna be parents who want to fuck your wife what for sure no yeah they're gonna meet her they're gonna say maybe if tom dies i'm in yeah i just know that there's a better job there's a

couple i can name he He doesn't understand. She's complicated. She's not difficult. She just requires more and gives more back. That's so complicated. I'm not saying it's bad. I mean, he goes on the road a lot. I'm just saying I wouldn't do that.

I wouldn't go on the road. What would I do? I'd be a stay-at-home dad, and I'd adjust my income accordingly. I mean, because I just feel like being with you would be more important than, you know, getting applause from strangers. Well, first and foremost, I'm a feminist and as a feminist, I, I always do what women want me to do. He doesn't tell you you're beautiful every day. I mean, I'm not judging him. I would do it. That's a requirement. that's something you have to say it's just something you want to say anyway and i would want to say especially since it's true but it's true and you say it okay you just do just do better just do better period just do better

it's hard being a dad but you know what i'm finding is the older you get the less you run into people because once they're in high school they start to just they don't involve the parents at all they don't want the parents around right now you have to make an effort to be like hey i want to see some of these parents before i let you go over to their house because now it's getting it's a good point yeah because, because they're fucking weirdos. When they're little, they really have you. There's some weird stuff that goes on, like people having parties. My daughter, she was 12, I think, or 13,

and the kids' party was held at the Strand. Not the Strand, the Strand. You know, the fancy hotel on Sunset. Really? What's it, the Stand? I think it's the Stand. Standard Strand. You know the fancy hotel on Sunset? Really? What's it? The Stand? I think it's the Stand. Standard.

Standard. Thank you. This is how uncool I am. I've gone there twice. I've eaten there a hundred times. We work at the Comedy Store across the street. Literally across the street. Have you ever gone to that diner there?

It's open really late. It might be 24 hours. Oh, yeah? Yeah. It's amazing. It's really good food. But it's also a place where when you're new to Hollywood, you have parties there and there's a lot of people with coke and running around naked.

Dude, I took a picture. I was there once. Rampage Jackson came out of the back with sunglasses on, no shirt on, and a fur coat and two super hot Chinese chicks. And I took a picture of them. It was back in the day before Instagram and Twitter. I put it up online somewhere. It's probably...

Yeah. I doubt if you can find it. If you can find that, you're a fucking wizard. But that is the standard. It's probably from like 2004 or something like that. It's still the same today. And my daughter's like, they're having a party in the one room and the parents are having a party in the other room. That's ridiculous.

It's just parties that want to get fucked up and then, well, put the kids in that room. Oh my God. So my daughter was going to go to a party. I'm not dropping you off at Valet at the standard. That's so stupid. Definitely fucked up things are going to happen. Those parents aren't paying any attention. No.

They're trying to bone each other. LA, you know. There was another, there's an instance of parents boning each other oh yeah yeah not in uh my kid's school but one of my kids friends school really the moms are all talking about it that's good stuff parents got together they got they freak on you know it's the sign you know it's the sign? When they want to travel with you. That's when it all goes down. The swapping happens a lot on those vacations.

When someone comes to you and is like, hey, you want to go to the Grand Canyon with me and Carol? We all camp. Yeah, you don't want camping. Camping's a bad one. Camping's tough. You got to do like hotels where there's like a gym that's 24 hours and it's the middle of the night. You're like, I just feel like getting a lift in. You know how I am. You get off to one of those massage rooms.

I think camping would be an easy one, too. Just go into the bathroom in the woods. The problem is the woods are quiet. Yeah, you're going to hear everything. You're going to hear it all. It's just the woods are quiet. Yeah, you're going to hear everything. You're going to hear it all. It's just the woods are not the best sleep either. Right. You wake up real easy.

You're kind of on edge because you're sleeping on the ground with animals. You're laying on the ground where animals live. Hey, I just got back from uh africa oh yeah you're right yeah i slept in a in a tent like that oh my god like it's not a not a floppy tent but like a wall tent wall tent yeah when where'd you go and listen to lions all night long literally it sounded like it was was literally in our bed. Is that safe? For hours. He was about 300 yards away.

Oh, totally safe. With a dead zebra. And he was basically through the night telling his family for miles. Where the zebra is? Hey, that's the line I took. Hey, that's my thing. That's your uh instagram page fella tom papa literally like hearing it felt like they were literally in our in our tent and

what part of africa did you go to tanzania tanzania see i was gonna go to tanzania but i was scared that i would had to uh give my kids a shot yeah i did I did. How old are your kids? 11 and 14. And they had to get a typhoid shot. They didn't have to get malaria? We took malaria medication. Once a day. How bad is it?

It gives you crazy vivid dreams. People had said it might give us nightmares. We would just come down in the morning like, what did you dream last night? Wow. us nightmares we would just come down in the morning like what did you dream last night wow i mean like so crystal clear 4k vivid dreams really wild and as soon as you go as soon as you went off the dreams went away and how long do you have to take it for two days before you go the whole time you're there and then uh a week after the whole time you're there you take it yeah does it fuck you up?

Malaria is real. It's around. It makes your stomach a little... My wife's stomach was a mess because of it. But that's it? Just stomach ache? Excuse me, yeah. Which can definitely fuck up your enjoyment of this experience, right?

Yeah, but you know what? You gotta do it. Going to the bathroom a couple times to be six feet from a lion is like... Yeah. You just do it. I don't like that stuff. I always feel like I'm going to get bit by a bug and never survive. I feel like my kids are just too young for that. How old are they?

Six and eight. I just don't want to give them malaria medication. They are. Mine are 11 and 14, and this was the perfect time to take them. and this was the perfect time to take them. The 14-year-old was aware, and the younger one at 11 is like, she's good. She can travel, she can eat food, she can swallow pills.

She's like a person. Any earlier than this, it would have been hard. Yeah, it's got to be amazing though, huh? It's amazing. It's mind-blowing. You definitely have, you know, it's like one of those things like you go on vacation you're like oh it's just gonna blow me away like why you know you kind of like have all these anticipation but then it's always becomes a little more simple than that you just kind of hang in this place and by the end of it you come back

you're like i'm still thinking about it you know what i mean it's like seeing a great movie and you can't get it out of your head it's like these things are going to africa there's pretty it's pretty deep you know like you really see just the beginning of of everything wow it's kind of it's kind of uh and then it's just cool just being by these animals i mean you're literally by all these animals about af, it's not just the beginning of everything, but in a lot of ways, it's still like that. Yeah. Like, it's one of the few places where you can go and there's indigenous tribes, essentially all over the continent, that are living in a really kind of primitive way. We took a balloon ride, and the balloon guy... Like, this isn't dangerous enough. We're going we're gonna add on the ground with lions yeah and uh this was right after the crash and but

anyway we got in the balloon it wasn't the safest and he got off course so we drifted out of the serengeti in the grumetti river and we're just kind of going for a little bit and we he brought it down in this clearing we ended is a fucking movie, bro. A little upside down. A tribe that lives there comes running out. They saw us coming down. They started running. They got sticks and robes and they come running

and we land. They've never seen this before. They've never seen us before. They've never seen this before. And they're like, my daughter held up a cell phone and boys who are older than her probably you know 15 ran literally ran at the sight of a cell phone and uh it was like and they're so primitive they're so basic they're living in these little places just raising cattle and just doing their primitive things but i think i was more scared of them than the kids running from the cell phone like i didn't know i've only heard like rwanda you know or the bokrum thing and i'm like i don't know these people

they could eat you yeah they've got a robe on but i've got two daughters with me you know who yeah who knows each guy just gets in my face chewing on a root and getting crazy and like, I'm taking that one. Yeah. You landed in my territory.

Right. I'm taking that one. Dude. You know what I mean? Would you be uneasy? Fuck yeah. I was uneasy. Yeah, well,

you don't know how to speak their language. No. If you land in a fucking balloon in South Central Chicago or South Side of Chicago, you're in trouble. Right. Right? Right. You could land in a fucking balloon in south central Chicago or south side of Chicago, you're in trouble. Right. Right? Right.

You could land in a bad neighborhood anywhere in America in a fucking balloon and get in a heap load of trouble. But I felt bad about myself that I'm assuming that I'm landing in, that these people must be trouble. But instinct kind of kicks in. You know what I mean? What if you landed in, like, the swamps of Louisiana and nobody could hear you scream you don't you wouldn't be weird like if you landed in some fucking strange little swamp town or a bunch of people just gator hunting that's what it is it's gators that's what it is it's the unknown it's not knowing all i needed was someone to say have the balloon guy be like these people are cool yeah these are my friends hello yeah

right they're they're mellow yeah but no one was saying that everyone was a little nervous too they cut hands and then they do the blood brother thing like outlaw josie wales right he is my brother my brother of the jungle they do that fake thing where they're about to fight and then hug at the last minute like a terrible movie from like a crocodile dundee type movie but you know what the people like the guy the safari guy that came to pick us up and drive us back and he was he wasn't cool with being there either oh really no he was a little nervous he was kind of like checking around like okay let's go and oh god he's like you don't know you're we don't you don't know they could we don't you don't know

they could ask for money because you landed on their bushes you know what i mean right anything could go down i know a dude who went there and uh he went there for a hunting trip and while he was there he got sick and the nearest hospital from where he was hunting was like six hours in a truck and so he got so sick he had to go to the hospital. Wow. So they put him in the back of this truck. He's lying down, trying to not throw up and just trying to relax over this six-hour drive to the hospital.

And they stop him for gas along the way. And a gunfight breaks out. And the truck he's in gets hit with gunfire. Where? What part? Who the fuck knows? Who cares? Some Africa-like place place this dude is out there dirt roads for six hours he gets in a fucking gunfight at a gas station at a gas station there

were some rebels yeah disagreed with something and they shot at the guy who's driving the car and it's that's the it's so primitive it's so you don't we went to a little town and you come into this town it's just like steel you know siding put up and chickens running around and i mean it's it's not a town it's right you know it's what you picture in your head of like a crazy african like bazaar you know and there's guys on motorcycles right up and down the street. You don't know. I don't know how this is going to go. You know what I mean? Most of the time in those parts of the world, everything goes fine.

And that's right. But there's a high percentage of the time in those places as opposed to in America where things don't go well. It's like when they don't go well, they unravel really quickly and it can just not come back. And then people eat you. Stuff happens here, the cops show up, and they will get control eventually. Unless you're black. Right. And the cops just shoot you.

Right. Yet, again, getting control. Cops are listening right now. Fuck you, man. But you go into those towns, I feel like, you know, I want to be the photojournalist who comes in and just is cool with people and presumes these people are kind and they're gentle. And a lot of them are kind and gentle.

Do you have a scarf? I could get one. You need some sort of a knit scarf. Like a scarf. Like a really thin, almost transparent. You know one of those really well-worn scarves? And the mirrored sunglasses, the wire mirrored sunglasses. That's kind of a douche move.

The scarf's not. Well, the scarf makes you look worldly. Like we were talking before the podcast started about those leather bags that you put your laptop in. That are made out of thick saddle leather. It develops a fine patina over time. Meanwhile, it weighs 20 fucking pounds. God damn piece of shit, It weighs 20 pounds. You know what's the best thing for carrying your laptop? It's a backpack. Yeah. Everybody knows

it. It's nice and soft. It's the only cool. No, it doesn't look like Clint Eastwood would have it. Yeah. If you have a shoulder strap and it's patina leather. Yeah. You can smell the leather on you. Yes. Yes. Yes. Sophisticated. Look at his shoes. They're suede with a thin bottom. That's sophisticated. Look at his shoes. They're suede with a thin bottom. It has a heel, but it's a very small heel. It's a very thin and nondescript suede shoe he's wearing.

It's gray, of course. I bet he rolls his own cigarettes. He does roll his own cigarettes. You're amazing. And he does it well. A man who can roll his own cigarettes quickly and very... Look at that. It looks professional. It looks like a machine did it

oh that guy yeah i saw him reciting poetry to that girl before that guy was embedded with a tribe of cannibals for a year and didn't even speak their language he's amazing but i do feel that it's my american paranoia is part of it and that i want to be a better person and, and assume that these gentle people raising cattle are kind. Or you should just assume that all that shit you read every 20 minutes when you get up in the morning and the New York times about people eating people over there is true. Jesus Christ. Fucking white liberals.

They're all, we just want to think the world is amazing. Diversity is awesome. I feel like I felt I did have a conflicting thing like that. You got lucky and they had already eaten something right before you got there. People in Africa right now

are like fuck you. We don't eat people. I get it. I get it. I'm joking around folks. But that is how i was acting i wanted to be like it's all cool but i was not i was keeping my daughters by me i was like let's go this little girl came up will you give me some juice i'm like screw you get in the van let's get out of here we got our we got our fabric that we wanted. Let's leave. I really, I was that way. I was like, I'm not having it. I'm not cool.

I'm paranoid and I'm territorial. And let's get back to the van. I got a buddy of mine who's had malaria three times. Three times. Yeah. And he goes to the Congo for months at a time and builds wells for the pygmies in the Congo. Oh, my God. He's the salt of the earth.

His name's Justin Wren. He actually, I met him when he was fighting for the UFC. Wow. And he took a long time off of fighting. He recently returned to bring awareness to the pygmies. Oh, really? He just loves pygmies. And to help gather money to build them wells.

And they've built, I think, 42 wells so far. Wow. It's amazing. It's amazing. He works with this company called Waterfor, and you can donate. He's got a website called fightfortheforgotten.com. That's him. That's my friend.

But he goes down there for months and months at a time and lives with these people. He looks happy. He's the with these people. He looks happy. He's the happiest guy ever. He looks so happy. He's so fucking nice, man. I would feel great, too, if I went to a land of pygmies and I was just like, I am your god. I am big and I can dig. Did you say guide or god?

God. They're little, right, pygmies? They just call them the big pygmy. Yeah. He looks like the gnome on my leg he's a big guy he's a ufc heavyweight so he's 250 plus pounds wow he's a big dude big boulder of a man but um looks like one of my tattoos he's he really does he's oh i think he might be over there now i mean or if he's not there now he's going back soon he goes there all

the time he's an amazing guy yeah but that guy's had malaria three fucking times and he said there's types of malaria yeah well he said there's types of malaria that you can get that can last years what did he say like 30 fucking years oh my god one of them was like five months one of them was 10 years and there's a type that lasts for like 30 years he just didn't want to take medication well he did and he still got it he didn't take medication for some of them he did for other ones there's other people that he knows that took medication and still got malaria right but he's in the fucking heat of it man no that's yeah he's in the congo the congo yeah do you know that

malaria has killed half the people that have ever died ever. Really? Yeah. Out of all the things that have killed people and all the history. Malaria's the biggest? Wolves and fucking earthquakes. Dragons. Drowning. Malaria. Half of them.

Half of them died because of malaria. That's not going to last, though. Because we're able to go in and affect mosquitoes, and the mosquitoes are going to go and take all that out. Have you seen that? Yeah. Genetically seen that? Yeah. Genetically modified mosquitoes. Yeah. Where are you now, you GMO pussies?

Yeah, bring it. All those people who are scared of GMO. What we have is everything is non-GMO. It's super important to me to be clean, to eat clean. Right. Smoking cigarettes, taking acid on the side, you fucking dirty hippie. Dirty. GMOs have been with us forever.

And it's not a good idea for, here's what's not a good idea. It's not a good idea to put pesticides on your food. You know it and I knew it. And the problem with things like GMO, like Roundup, everybody knows that Roundup was created so they could spray it with evil chemicals because it makes it easier to grow plants. But it's not how it's supposed to be done. Like you can't, these shortcuts that people have created for industrialized farming to kill off weeds

and things like that, pesticides, that shit is fucking terrible for you. And it gets in the water and that stuff gets in the water. I know a dude who has bone cancer and he has bone cancer. And he has bone cancer. And a bunch of people in his neighborhood have cancer. And they all got cancer because they were near a fucking golf course.

And they had wells. And so they were down water from the golf course. And the golf course constantly sprayed pesticide all over the grass. They wanted to keep that grass clean. It seeped into the groundwater. These people all drank that groundwater. And they got cancer. fucking a fuckload of people in this guy's neighborhood got cancer he has instead of a thigh his femur is a a rod it's like a metal rod and they like rebuilt his leg because they had to cut his femur out you do that or remove your leg you want to try a rod yeah

let's uh go with the rod now he has a fucking rod in his leg Oh my god GMO mosquitoes But here's the thing that's terrible right But genetically modified foods The more I've looked into it The more I understand it now First of all they've been with us forever

Everything you fucking eat From oranges to corn To tomatoes All those things have been genetically modified, all those things have been genetically modified. Most of those things have been genetically modified by traditional methods, traditional agricultural methods that we don't think of as genetically modified. We have like this ignorant view of it, like we think it's all being done with like they're going into the DNA and injecting dangerous chemicals and we don't know the consequences. They've been like splicing plants together forever. They've been doing certain aspects of natural, of selection and selecting the type of traits

in foods that they want and taking seeds and figuring out. Like, that's the other thing that I didn't know. Most of the foods that you buy, the seeds aren't going to even work on them. Like, if you buy like tomatoes and like those tomatoes, like they're probably not even going to grow tomatoes from them, from the seeds in't going to even work on them like if you buy like tomatoes and like those tomatoes like then they're probably not even going to grow tomatoes from them from the seeds and those plants that's what's the thing that freaks me like you hear gmo and you just think i think okay someone big is messing with our food and then there's only there's smaller number of big people who are manipulating the food supply.

And they don't care about you. And they don't even allow those old ways of modifying stuff because they're taking seeds out away from regular farmers. I mean, it's really, that part, it's like the big brother part of the food industry that really is scary. And when I hear GMO, I just think, okay, who's doing what? On what level? I think the same way when we were talking about how many employees do you have to have before you have to hire a chick.

You're okay if you have two. I think when you're a part of a big corporation, how many people do you have to have where no one feels responsible for the consequences of the actions of the company? Like if you're working for Monsanto, you're working for a fucking enormous monster of a machine that needs to make more money every month than the previous month.

It's bigger than a lot of countries. It's bigger than a lot of countries, and the amount of money that it generates is substantial worldwide. And then here's the thing. We're infinite growth, which is this thing that a lot of corporations operate under, they have stockholders, people want returns on their investments. You want to make more money every quarter than you did the previous quarter. That's crazy. Insane. You can't sustain that. It just keeps going and going and going. And when you're a company like Monsanto, I'm not making any excuses for them.

I'm just saying the way giant corporations operate, the CEO has an obligation to his stockholders to generate more income. It's important that he make their, and if they don't, they'll write him out. They'll get a new guy in here who's going to do the job. So if you take on the job of a CEO of a major corporation, your job is to make more fucking money every time. And it's a very high-pressure job, which is why it's worth so much money. Right. They're not stupid. No, you get it. But that's why you need someone like the FDA to keep an eye on it and keep them small and break them up.

Make sure they're not putting that stuff in the wells and doing all that stuff. But they're all bought and paid. You can't, but yeah, but you need, if the corporation's goal is to just get bigger and make more, they're not going to put the brakes on and say, let's not put the bad water in the well. That's true. Somebody has to do it. Somebody's got to do it.

Right? It's not perfect. The government is far from doing it right. But theda with food they let so much stuff slide there's so much stuff in our food that isn't allowed in europe yeah well that's what i'm saying like they're bought and sold yeah like if they were looking out for us the first thing they would do is look into cigarettes there would be like some major investigation as to why politicians haven't spoken out against cigarettes why cigarettes killing 500 000 people and no one's doing anything to stop it, that would be one of the first things they would do.

Because if you try to- And it's allowed to exist at all. Yeah. If you had a new product like cigarettes, it was killing a half million people a year and it wasn't doing anything good. Yeah. How the fuck is that going to stick around? Right.

You make a bubble gum that's killing half the people. Well, here's what it does do. It makes you need that gum yeah and then you want to get that gum back anybody who created that gum would be thought of as a monster total monster but like you could be like what does your dad do oh well he runs a tobacco company oh cool oh cool yeah so does the rest of this state yeah everybody yeah in north carolina he uh he employs a lot of people in the state. Oh, excellent. What does your dad do? Oh, he makes this addictive gum that kills you.

What a piece of shit. Your dad's a piece of shit. Oh, yeah, he wears a cape, and he lives in a dark castle, and it's never sunny. It's weird. He just mysteriously goes around the basement and thinks about killing people. He's so happy with his product, killing half a million a year. And he has all the money in the world. He buys off politicians with his evil gum money.

I mean, that's what they're doing. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So much difference. That's, you know what I think? I was trying to think of why like your buddy goes and helps the pygmies and all these people are like, you got to just go into these places and help these people. And part of me was when I was was there, was thinking it's almost like, in this liberal, arrogant way, offensive to be like, I'm here now. I can help you.

You live like this. Let me make it better. But as I was thinking about it, I don't, I think the desire to go to work with the pygmies and to go to help these people with their water and all, it's not that we think we're better. You just see people that need help. But unlike here in this country, you see people that need help. It's a mess to be able to help them. You don't know if you're really. There, it's like I build a well, and these people are happy, right? I give them education, and it's a clear path.

There is no fda i know i'm going against what i was saying before but there is no government regulation there's no complex corporations if i want to help somebody here it's like how do you help people in detroit where do you start how does it make an impact there he goes and sees pygmies he helps the pygmies and at the end of the day he's helped pygmies right you know what i? There's a direct way to help people there. There is that thing, though, whenever you do something charitable, that people think that you're, like, peacocking your charitable ways. You're doing it for yourself and your own ego.

Yeah. But then there's the other side of looking at it, like, who cares as long as the good work gets done? Like, even if you have kind of shitty, selfish, ambitious, sort of weird intentions behind it yeah if i do something good for people i want other people to know i did it i'll admit it i really like like it's i know it's a shitty motivation but i did help somebody you know what i mean they got something out of it for sure i got something out of it for sure yeah um praise tom papa i'm i'm a pretty good guy look what i did look what i did you know what i

mean i really i'll admit it if i go back if i went back to africa and and help these people out with their drinking water this one want to do a documentary on it make some cash oh yeah i do a special in kilimanjaro on my way home and i would market it what kind of comedy would you do in kilimanjaro oh man what about these rebels folks who's dressing them no it's safe in tanzania there's no conflicts there's no rebels okay it's it's nice and peaceful these people are are kind. Right. They're good. Kilimanjaro's like that? Mm-hmm.

What would you do? What kind of jokes would you do when you're in Kilimanjaro? They don't understand English very well. So you'd have to do... You'd have to get a little physical. Do some act outs. Do the old grandpa. Yeah, grandpa running from the lion gag. A couple boob jokes

that sounds good i saw the lion king not the lion king jungle book last night yeah i saw it on the plane uh spoiler alert all the animals can talk and the kid lives. I wanted to like it. It just took itself. As soon as I heard Liam Neeson in the beginning taking themselves too seriously, I was out. Well, and also they had a gigantopithecus in it, which I thought was fascinating, but they made it an orangutan. They decided that a gigantopithecus was an orangutan. That bothered me too. It was an enormous orangutan that knocked over a building it was this 10 foot tall orangutan that

can talk spoiler alert sorry is it bad that i still want to say orangutan because it sounds fun yes he's saying it wrong it's neanderthal also by the way it's not fall it's neanderthal some of the oldest uh human remains were Tanzania. Really? Yeah. Which, how old were they? I don't know. Well, they think that's where people evolved, if you believe all that evolution nonsense

and not the Bible. I do. I do believe it. I pity you. I pity your soul, because you're going to burn in a fiery pit. Whoops. I pity your Twitter. I guess you fucked up.

Yeah, they think that's where people evolved, right? Yeah. Or one of the main places. Yeah. I think the original place for human beings. Ethiopia? And then, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then obviously they branched out

and different species of human, different branches of human evolved. Yeah. They keep finding over the last few years a bunch of new ones. I know. These new branches. Yeah. They keep finding over the last few years a bunch of new ones. I know. These new branches. Yeah.

They find some teeth. They go, what the fuck is this? And then they go, I think we got a new jawbone here, guys. Right. And then they do some DNA on it and like, holy fuckstick. Did humans have tails? Maybe. Olduvai Gorge.

Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania. Hmm. Yeah. The site in Tanzania that holds the earliest evidence of the existence of human ancestors. You got to go, Joe. You got to go. You would love it. Holy shit.

Look at that. They found hundreds of fossilized bones and stone tools in the area dating back millions of years, leading them to conclude that humans evolved in Africa. Wow. Millions of years. Millions. I didn't know they had stone tools millions of years ago. Millions. I wonder if they're saying fossilized bones

and stone tools also millions? Like, how old was the oldest if you had to guess, right now, without any looking, how old do you think the oldest stone tool ever found was? The oldest stone tool was discovered by Benjamin Franklin

in Philadelphia. You're talking about his wife? His beard, his old tool. That's what he called his beard, my stone tool. I'm very bad with thinking about numbers like back into the past and things out into the universe. Like these billions don't make any sense to me. But I would guess, in my dumb way, I would say a tool would be about 2 million years old. Yeah, I'm going to go with you.

I'll say about 2 million years. Oh, I'm impressed. Let's see. 2.8 million. Whoa. Wow. Holy shit. That's a long time.

That's so long. The artifacts are by far the oldest handmade stone tools yet discovered. The previous record holders known as the Oldowan stone tools were about 2.6 million years old. So I was hunting recently in Nevada. You got to go to Africa. You're built for this. I was in Nevada, though. I was in the mountains.

Right. In the high country, the high country desert, hunting mule deer. Doing this archery hunt, hiking, backpack out there and i found a um i found a stone arrowhead you did yeah while hunting i found an ancient arrowhead that's the coolest it was the coolest shit ever that's the who knows how old it was did you keep it well you're not supposed to you're not yeah of course i did you're not supposed to you're not so yeah of course I did you're not supposed to walk out with it? leave it there

get the fuck out of here fuck off how big was it? tiny small about that big it's amazing I've always wanted to find that

I left it there I buried it Tom I buried it so that someone else could find it you're a good man I am a good man I want everybody to know I buried it too

say you would you would you would want everyone to know if I got a deer there I I want everybody to know I buried it, too. Say you would. You would. You would want everyone to know. If I got a deer there, I was going to take a photo of the new arrowhead next to the old arrowhead. Not take a photo of them, but glue them onto a piece with a photo of the animal and then have it framed. I just think it's a dope thing to find while you're out bowing arrow hunting. You find an arrowhead from- Probably Indians. Yeah, I'm sure. americans are indigenous people i mean i mean engines

i mean red skins you know that kind powwow uh eagles eagle feathers you know them dudes you know whenever i say indians my daughter always goes, Dad. Yeah, don't say that. And I'm like, oh, I'm okay. But then I was reading an article in the New York Times about, you know, they're trying to put the pipeline through North Dakota. And they call them the Lakota Indians. They don't say the Lakota Native Americans. So I'm not being offensive. The Lakota people, I think, is what they're supposed to be calling themselves.

I think they call them Indians in the article. Do you know that other Indians called them the Sioux? Oh, yeah. Because Sioux means enemy. Oh. Yeah. The Lakota people were a notorious warlike people. Right.

Yeah. Tough. Do you ever hear of the Nez Perce? No. Big time cannibals. Oh, yeah. The Great Lakes areas. Yeah. They did a lot of killing and eating white folks.

They didn't like the white invaders, so they took to killing them and eating them. And take their soul. Oh, here's something I found out that's very important. The Revenant's all based on bullshit. No, it's not. Fucking bullshit. I just read the book. Here's what actually happened to that guy.

No, no, no, no. I just read the book. Historical account of the actual event. Oh, okay. Here's a bunch of shit that never happened. That's true. First of all, he never had a son. I just read the book. The historical account of the actual event. Oh, okay. Here's a bunch of shit that never happened. That's true. First of all, he never had a son. You know?

Spoiler alert! His son's murdered by the guy and he wants to go after the guy. Never had a son. That's not in the book, by the way. Second of all, they never left him. They never tried to bury him alive. He was fucked up. He got mauled by a bear and they left him to die.

Right. He was going to die. They didn't bury him. They didn't bury him. The guy crawled back. That's not in the book either. He't bury him. They didn't bury him. The guy crawled back. That's not in the book either. He never killed anybody. He didn't kill anybody, that guy.

Never. Didn't kill anybody. Made it back to camp. Crawled back to camp, got pissed, and they were like, oh, sorry. Yeah, it just ended. Yeah. He never killed him. I know.

That's not in the book either. The guy who left him to die wound up dying too. They all died real young back then. Yeah. But the only thing that was true is he survived he found an animal i think it was a moose or a elk that had been killed by wolves and he ate some of that and he killed and ate a snake and that's all he had to eat his entire way back and his body's all fucked up and he did crawl his way back to wherever the fuck he was going he actually yeah and then he uh and then he got a horse he got he got a horse from indian and yeah

and rode it to a fort yeah and then it just kind of ends and not only fell off the cliff and landed in the tree bullshit never happened made up the book is pretty accurate to the real account oh yeah and my buddy told me to read it so uh putting together a little summer reading list i threw that into the pile i hate that that phrase pretty. You're talking about like historical events. You have an obligation to have zero bullshit that you add in there to make the story better. But I think the book is. I couldn't tell you 100% but

all that stuff like as I was reading it. It's a really good book because it really gets into the smallness of like what you have in your utility bag and like walking through and what this Indian would do. There's all this very little subtle day-to-day stuff that makes the book great. But it just kind of drifted off and ended.

There was a lot less drama. The book was pretty dry. Yeah, well, that's the real life story. Right. No, so the account of all the stuff that they carried with them, you mean like flints to start fires and things along those lines? Yeah, exactly. The flint and a little rope, a little fat.

Fat? Why fat? Yeah, a little fat. I don't know, to oil up their tools. Huh. Oh, to make sure that their tools didn't get rusty, probably. A lot of stuff for their gun, for their gun maintenance. Yeah. What did they call it?

A supplies bag? It was a cooler name than that. And so they had muskets back then, right? So they would have like black powder and they would pour it into the barrel. Then they would have to pack it down and put a primer in. And they had a little piece of flint that would drop down on a hammer. And the spark from that would cause the explosion. Yeah.

So fucking primitive. It's amazing. Amazing. primitive. It's amazing. Amazing. Amazing. It really is. It's amazing how people just not just got by back then, but actually would go out into the woods, like barely. Yeah.

Barely supplied. Nothing. Almost nothing. Just against the weather. Yeah. Not prepared. You have one pair of clothes. I wonder how much

food they would bring and how much they would just rely upon the land because they didn't really know what the hell was ahead a lot of the time they would salt a lot of meat right they would salt it and jerk it and you know carry that stuff but you know that was like you ate that when you were in a fix you know you had no food for a while yeah but they didn't they couldn't carry a lot of stuff couldn't refrigerate stuff you know you're just living out there it's wild think about how scary it would be just like sleeping there and knowing that you know native americans are coming through the woods well i got really pissed off that you're on their land oh insane you know and you really are on their fucking land like you're really not supposed to be there you really are part of an invading army yeah i put this article up um yesterday that somebody tweeted uh that i i retweeted it was just a shocking article i

started reading it about uh all of the northern uh all the um southern california murders that involved indians and then california in general like how many native americans were murdered when in establishing california in the 1800s when they were pioneering like when they were first coming oh my god oh dude this but these accounts were horrific like firsthand accounts yeah of of thousands of people getting slaughtered including children babies babies, women. This all happened a couple hundred years ago. After reading The Revenant, I decided I was so excited about reading about the West.

I'm like, let me learn about how the Indians actually lived. Let me see their small bags. What did they carry? What was their day-to-day? I really wanted to get into that. bags what did they carry what was their day-to-day i really wanted to like kind of get into that like an idiot i pick up uh bury me at wounded knee which is the most horrific account of the slaughter of native americans it's just you know tribe after tribe it just takes you through our expansion and going into each state and lying and destroying and killing men women and children

it's unreadable you literally literally can't get through it. It's so recent. I'm like, I want to read a nice Indian story where a white guy comes out and they know he's cool and he gets a girlfriend and he's like the one cool white guy and hangs with the Indians. I love Indians. Dancing with Wolves is my favorite movie. When the beautiful white man becomes the best indian

i love it that's what i want to read how awful fucking horrible movie the best of the group who gets the hottest woman is a beautiful white man with a ponytail he starts off slow he gets his ass kicked early something some of the young guys don't trust him yeah it's uh there's a lot of rivalries um here's the story arc it It's going to take a long time. We need three plus hours. Three hours? What kind of fucking movie is this? Well, he has to win the Indians' respect.

It's going to take time. It's an amazing movie, and Kevin Costner's on board. So Kevin believes in this. Sold. Kevin is, first of all, Kevin has been researching this for a long time. Okay?

It would be within your best interest to make this film because if you don't someone will i'll just tell you that now okay we're here out of respect because of our previous relationship that we have with universal this is getting made this is getting made this is getting made this is an amazing film um kevin becomes the best indian at the end of the movie he kicks everyone's ass and fucks everyone's Pocahontas. Fucks their wives. And think about all the Indians you're going to employ in this movie. You won't have to hire black people for the rest of the year.

And there was a young man at one point in time in the film who seemed like he and Kevin would be rivals. Eventually he worships Kevin. He thinks Kevin is amazing. Kevin begins to dress like them. Somehow or another, though, he goes to a barber and gets his hair cut perfectly around his ears. It's weird. The same way he was in Waterworld. Yeah, I mean, it's sort of mulledy,

but whatever's going on at the top, he's obviously got some product in that hair, right? I mean, what's happening there? Big time. Yeah. He's like, yeah, he's in a hair metal band. Yeah. My favorite is Wyatt Earp.

Did you ever see when he played Wyatt Earp? So he played Wyatt Earp, and when Wyatt Earp was young, they just put a wig on a 40-year-old Kevin Costner. They're like, yeah, just make him look like he's 18. Give him a fucking wig. And so he's like, gee, mister, I don't know. Why'd you beat me up? This guy beats beats him up and he's got this fucking he's a 40 year old guy with a wig on and no one's no one's freaking out everyone's like oh your kid's weird looking and then fucking 25 years later the kid looks exactly the same this is so strange

his voice is a little deeper but he's got the loose skin thing going on but he's got a mop of hair just this crazy fat mop nobody cared they didn't have cgi back then right you couldn't make him look like an 18 year old it wasn't 4k no it was really looking that close so bad it looked like uh not even the healthiest 40 year old guy like a 40 year old guy that probably does a little coke Every now and then and boozes it up That's him Gee mister I don't want no trouble

That's him in White Earp but that's not him When he was the youngest That's him in the movie somewhere But he had also Lazy bitch didn't even bother losing any weight for that movie Right he had a little bit of a double chin You're a movie star Well you know he's he has a little bit of a double chin you're a movie star well you know he's like fuck it i'm directing i'm acting i get tired i want a snack

i'm dealing with a lot all right by the way i love kevin costa and dancing with wolves is a fucking awesome movie i loved it but that is what happened but when you're going and thinking like you're gonna get that level of Indian fun, and then you read Bury Me at Wounded Knee, the first chapter alone is like a holocaust. It's really rough. It is incredibly fucked up. And you stop and think about the time period of the 1800s and then previous to that, how recent that was.

It's so recent. It's incredibly fucked up it's it's incredibly fucked up and it's incredible how much has happened has happened up till now like i mean walking through this area in like in the dark with no lights and it was like being in africa right and now they didn't have flashlights overnight these guys camped at night and they didn't have flashlights nothing they couldn't. These guys camped at night and they didn't have flashlights. Nothing. They couldn't even light a fire because they thought it was going to attract the enemy. Crazy.

Yeah. This is not long ago. Dude. Yeah. Not long ago at all. What people do when they find new spots, it's what they've done throughout history. They find out who's owning those spots, what's all the good stuff in those spots. All right, we've got to kill those people to get their good stuff yeah and then they just jack them i don't understand why more parts of africa weren't exploited it's tough to get to first of all

it's enormous if you think about the sheer size of africa and then there was also a lot of stuff they tried to exploit it's one of the famous things about the congo is that european settlers tried to they tried to take the congo and they tried to tried to, they tried to take the Congo and they tried to colonize it. Yeah. They tried to move in and they tried to gentrify the Congo. They tried to like build houses and there's still the remains of a lot of these incredible mansions.

They tried to put like plantations up in the Congo. You go through all of it. It was, oh, that's when the Germans were here. That's when the French owned it. That's when the British owned it. I mean, that's the way Germans were here. That's when the French owned it. That's when the British owned it. I mean, that's the way it was. People just came from Europe and took it over and owned it. The difference is they didn't come in, in most cases, and slaughter everybody and try and take it over.

For some reason, they came in and just tried to adapt those people. But people weren't moving down. It's a hostile environment. And there's, you know, I mean mean there's diamonds and there's that stuff and but there's no there's no real like mineable thing that you could exploit and bring to the rest of the world in these areas that i was yeah there isn't some areas and those areas have deep trouble yeah like that's where you get like conflict minerals you know a lot of that is uh they're getting some of these minerals that they need for cell phones and for some different things. They get a lot of those from Africa.

You know who's coming in big in Africa is China. Oh, yeah. China's going in and building stadiums, building football stadiums, soccer stadiums. Really? Going in and building them for free. And then they get in with the government and they get all these contracts. They see Africa as the place that's going to be exploited in the future and china's going in big yeah yeah i've heard that i heard they're buying up enormous swaths

of land yeah yeah it's kind of weird man that the the thing that china has going on is that they're kind of capitalist now yeah oh fiercely yeah but they're also not in that they can completely control their people they can shut down aspects of the internet like i had a friend who was an executive at google and they were going over there and trying to talk with the chinese and trying to negotiate to bring google but they had like some really bizarre demands as far as their ability to enact censorship. And then on top of it, they have no laws when it comes to enforcing copyright protection and fraudulent items. They have full Apple stores in China that are all fakes. It's 100% counterfeit.

No. Yep. It has a giant Apple logo. You go in there, you buy Apple laptops. They all have the right names. No. They all have the a giant Apple logo. You go in there, you buy Apple laptops. They all have the right names. They all have the right specifications. All of it's fake. And Apple can't do anything about it? Can't do a damn thing. Can't do a damn thing. There's nothing they can do. And the government's not going to do shit either. That's just what they do. Wow. Look at

this. This is a fake Apple store that's in China. And it looks exactly like an Apple store. Yeah, that's crazy. It has the same images on the wall. They copy the images. It is off. They copy the logo. Now that you know it, it is off just a little bit. Not really.

I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't think so at all. Look, dude, it has all the same ads. They steal everything. They steal all the ads. They steal the font. They steal the same sort of tables, the thick, earthy wooden tables that make you feel good when you sit down on them. Those are our children in those ads.

But they spelled store wrong. S-T-O-E-R. S-T-O-E-R. It's hard to get away with it. That's the one thing we do. No, no, no, no, no. You're a apostore. You're a apostore.

This can't be common, though. Oh, yeah, it's common. It is? Yeah, it is common. Yeah, they just do this constantly. There's a problem with this in the archery world. There's a company called Rage, and they make probably the most popular broadhead for hunting. It's called a Rage hypodermic.

It's a very complicated design because it's what's called a mechanical broadhead and what this means is with with archery a lot of the accuracy in archery involves drag like how little drag you have meaning how much air impacts the arrow the wind drift things on those lines and uh when you have an arrow that's cutting through the air like it has to be like aerodynamic and it has to operate in a specific way. So the most accurate ones are these arrowheads that are called mechanical broadheads. The problem with these things is they open up on impact. So they hit and then they open up and they create this huge wound channel.

Wow. So it goes open to like two inches. But everything has to be like high quality steel, razor sharp blades. It has to fit perfectly. The tolerances are incredibly small because everything has to be, you're talking about like to be an ethical hunter, you have to not just be good at it. You have to make an accurate shot. You have to practice and you have to have the best equipment, right?

So this is like one of the best pieces of equipment you could buy if it's real. But the problem is they're making fake ones in China. Oh, no. And the blades are dull and the metal's cheap and they break off. Are they selling them here? They don't know. People don't know.

They don't even know if they're buying them. I mean, you could buy them from a disreputable company that's getting them from China and they look exactly the same. It has the same logo, the same fonts. And when you buy these things, you're shooting them at an animal. animal like it's entirely likely you're shooting a cheap piece of steel against china and for this company that's put all this money this company uh rage that's put

incredible amounts of money and resources and designing this incredible piece of archery hunting equipment they're they're fucking pissed. Of course. China's ruthless. Ruthless like that. We're saying it like it's a guy. She's dead, right? That wrestler? Did she die?

She did die. She was nice. She was. The whole poaching problem in Africa? Yeah. China. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

They don't give a fuck about rhinos. They want rhino horn yeah and uh they'll pay millions of dollars you ever seen what it does to your dick no it doesn't do anything just check and see if you're paying attention it's so funny are you really having for a second because they were saying because they were talking about how they worked in this whole like serengeti area they have like a place just for rhinos. It's the only animal that they've walled off because they were trying to protect it from these poachers. Incredible.

And I was like, the only explanation is it would do something to your dick. Well, do you see that they've 3D printed fake rhino horns? Oh, yeah. They've used cellulose and all the different things. I guess it's cellulose, right? Like, what do they use to make them? But they are 3D printing fake rhino horns. Brilliant.

That literally, they seem to be rhino horns to collectors, and they're going to flood the market with them. That's great. It is great. But it's still... They should also put chips in them and bust the people buying it. Yeah, but you... But China won't let you.

They won't give a fuck. No. They're like, who cares? Yeah. So you got another dude who kills rhinos. We're going to, we'll just go to tigers. Get some tiger dick next. I went by, in Tanzania, next to the Serengeti.

Like, the Serengeti is this huge national preserve. And the place where I stayed, this guy, Paul Tudor Jones, who's a- Sounds like a folk singer from the 70s. He's in New York. He's a New York hedge fund guy who's a philanthropist now. And he bought all the land next to the Serengeti where people were poaching and people destroyed the whole population. There were like no animals. And he went in, bought the land, bought up all the hunting licenses from Tanzania for 99 years.

And in 10 years time, it just exploded with animals. The whole population is back. Wow. Poaching is major, major, major problem. You know what? Here's the problem with poaching. The word poaching.

A lot of it is really fucking poor people that are just trying to survive. So like to say that like poaching is an issue So to say that poaching is an issue in Africa, poverty is an issue in Africa. Right. Poaching is a symptom of the poverty in Africa. Of getting lunch. And not even necessarily talking about the big money stuff,

like the ivory trade and the rhino horn trade. That could be applied to that as well. But a big part of poaching is just meat. It's just eating. It's just stealing meat, yeah. They call them poachers, but what they really are is that they're hunters who aren't property owners. Right.

You know? And these guys, they run around, they do snares, they catch these animals in snares, they have these really shitty, almost like musket-like guns that they've devised, like really similar to... They take a rifle, but they don't have bullets, so they... Put rocks in it. They put things in it, and then they pack in gunpowder, and they light it, and they make it blow like a fucking rifle or like a musket. Yeah, they use some really shitty—I mean, some of them do.

Yeah. I know, you can't put your Western—I know, there's a tendency to put everything through our Western prism and be like, you know, this is just a horrible thing. But when you go through these villages where they literally are walking a mile for water yeah and you know you get meat that's like a big thing i mean look these people it was my wife's birthday when we were there they don't have the phrase happy birthday they don't celebrate birthdays like they said it's because you'll have to have gifts we We'll have to take time away from working. We'll have to do it. They just never came up with the concept.

Happy birthday because their life is hard. Right. They don't have a lot of a lot of they don't have a word for dessert. They don't celebrate their hardworking, surviving people. So just to the point that you're right, there are a lot of people that just need meat for their family and they're they're not thinking that a tourist from la is coming in and wants to take pictures of of the zebra you know what i mean but there's got to be a way to parse it out because china still is a huge problem and they're taking all these animals for you know endangered

animals not for meat you know what i mean they're coming in and taking rhinos or they're taking cheetahs where not many survive even just in nature. Why are they taking cheetahs? Just for their coats. They like to make hats out of them. Really? Cheetahs? I don't know. Probably. Jockstraps. It's all jockstraps. All cheetah jockstraps in China. You don't know that?

You've seen the cheetah jockstraps, right? Most of the articles I'm finding on 3D printed rhino horns. Yeah, they have them. There was a couple of companies that were going to start making them. But there are people that are saying it's not a good idea to have them introduced because it's going to cause more problems than they're already having with just the real ones. They look real. But the thing is.

Is that a real? Are those real or fake? The picture I'm showing is real ones. ones they look real but the thing is is that a real are those real or fake these are the picture i'm showing is real ones but uh this is from national geographic showing the problems that are gonna come it's so fucked up that what's killing these crazy animals that we're gonna miss so much i know i mean if it's a dinosaur it's a dinosaur it's it's like a stegosaurus or something it might as well be but what's killing them is this erroneous idea that the horns make your dick hard.

I mean, if that's not symptomatic or symbolic of how fucking bizarre humans are. Yes. And meanwhile, at the same time, there's plenty of fucking pills that actually do the job. It's not like you're asking these rhino horns to do something that no pill could do. We've solved this problem. It's done. It's done. See Anna Nicole Smith. Right. Remember Jay Howard Marshall, that old guy who married her? That creepy dude. do we've solved this problem it's done it's done see anna nicole smith right remember jay howard

marshall that old guy who married her creepy dude he's like in his 80s and he married that big titted sloppy slut why did he do that because they had viagra finally and he could fuck her that's right yeah on a bed of money he just fucking kept his cowboy boots on. Yeah! That is a great point. It's like, why the rhino thing? Exactly. But it's... But it's probably not just for their hard-on. It's probably also because they think they can cure cancer with it.

No, no. It's really more... There's J. Howard Marshall and Anna Nicole. It's really, I think, more of anything, a status symbol. You come over a man's house. You have some rhino tea. Right. You both wear, you know, expensive

petite Philippe watches, you know, you drive a Ferrari, he has a Rolls Royce, you talk about, you know, real estate you're buying, and you do something, you pull out a Cuban cigar. Tom, where'd you get the Cubans? Hey, I got a buddy, he lives in Miami.

Let's sit out on the back porch and pretend we're gentlemen. I mean, there's so many people that never fucking smoke cigars and they get so pumped about getting a Cuban. I got a Cuban. Oh, you got a Cuban, huh? What kind? What do you got there? Oh, it's a good one.

It's a fat one. I like that after a steak. It's just a fake with a label on it. Yeah, there's a lot of those. A lot of those. I could tell the difference. I used to buy real ones, but I used to buy real ones that would pretend they're fake from London. I used to order them from London. They would send them to me from a tobaccoist. Nice.

Is that what they call them in London? Tobacconist. And then they would send me the actual labels like weeks later. Right. So they'd send these things to me in boxes boxes and they would just be labeled Dominican cigars. And then I'd get them. Brilliant. But I had specific cigars that I would ask for.

It's just such a stupid. As soon as I start smoking weed, I dump that habit. Don't you like this? Nonsense. You don't find it enjoyable? I do. I do. I do.

But it's just, there's something about it that's very fetishy. There's something about it that's very affected. It. There's something about it that's very affected. It's like you're putting on airs. Definitely. Yeah. When I'll smoke. See a guy with a fat face and he's got a cigar. I'm like, oh, what does this dipshit have to say?

Yeah. Everyone on the cover of Cigar Aficionado looks like an asshole. Oh, yeah. If you're just standing there smiling. Yeah. Come on. But when you're just being that asshole. Did Suge Knight ever make it on the cover of Cigar Aficionado?

Please find out. That's a good question. He always had a cigar. He was a good spokesman for the brand. That is part of the appeal. You do sit back and just say, you know what? Yeah. Yeah.

I'm all right. You know what I mean? You sit back. Everything's good. Yeah. I'm here good. I did all right. I got a cigar.

When I got my family back from that vacation and nobody had malaria or cuts or any emergencies and I got them all the way back from Africa, I sat out back with one and I was like, yeah. Yeah. I did it. Fucking A-right I did that. I'm American. Yeah. Back here in California.

I'm a man. Back here. I might vote Republican. I don't give a fuck. I am a lion. How about we give Donald Trump a chance to make America great again? No, you're going too far. You're taking him too far.

Who's that? Sean Combs. Look at him. Looking like an asshole. Everyone looks like an asshole. Little tiny hands. Jack Nicholson's the only one that doesn't look like an asshole. How little his hands are.

Yeah, Jack Nicholson. Jack's made for it. But Jack Nicholson also looks like he didn't pose. Is there something wrong with his hands or is it me? Puff Daddy's hands look very small. They're in front of him. They look weird. They don't look like they're part of him.

They're like way out in front of him. The perspective looks weird. But they're small. So like if you put it up to his chest, he'd be like, you got little boy hands. You got little baby hands with your cigar. Look at Usher. He played Sugar Ray Leonard in that new Roberto Duran movie. Usher can box

Apparently Oh yeah? Yeah Hands of stone Yeah he played He played Sugar Ray Yeah

Everyone looks like an asshole Let's pull up the most Asshole-ish Covers of popular cigar Or cigar aficionado Jack Nicholson looks great Vince Vaughn looks pretty douchey Right there

Yep Click that Oh yeah Vince What the fuck What are you, plotting things? Hey, as brothers in this thing that we have together. Hey. You can't not look douchey.

No, you all look like an idiot. Oh, Charlie Sheen. Oh, Charlie Sheen. Ass. I have AIDS in this cigar. I'm smoking AIDS. I don't give a fuck. Everybody was into Charlie Sheen until he got HIV.

They smell so bad. You can't have one without thinking. What is this, Jamie? Screw everybody. You know what I mean? When you smoke a cigar, you're saying, fuck you guys. I'm smoking this. I know it's awful, but I'm enjoying it.

So when you see a guy with it, that's what you're seeing in his eyes. William Shackner. Yes. He looks pretty good. You know, he purposely adds weight. it. So when you see a guy with it, that's what you're seeing in his eyes. He looks pretty good. You know, he purposely adds weight. He puts weight on and keeps weight on because it fills his face in and it keeps him from looking wrinkly. Al Roker

should take that advice. Well, Al Roker did the opposite. Joe Montaigne. You know Joe Montaigne? Joe looks pretty good. Do you know that guy is a gun nut? Is he? He's got a gun show. I've watched his gun show.

He's got a gun show on the Sports News Channel. No. Yes, he does. Get out. Yes, he does. I watched it. You're thinking of Joe Montaigne. No, no, no. Joe Montaigne.

He has a fucking gun history show. He shoots guns constantly. That's great. He's a gun nut. Like a full-on second amendment nra oh no no i don't say that in a negative way i like guns i do too but is it like i don't like him like he likes him though right i'm sure he's not gonna be open to any ideas see oh maybe look see gun stories is the name of his show that's great great. He's a gun nut. He's got a gold pistol there.

I bet he's rock hard right now. I bet he's like Anthony Weiner rock hard. Like strapped down inside his boxer shorts and a fucking angry hog. Ready to go. He really loves guns. It's a fucking show. It's on the Outdoor Channel. I've watched his show. Does it make me less of a man that my passion is bread?

No, no, you're the Sultan of sourdough. It's not just that your passion is bread. You take it to a whole new level. Thank you, Joe. You were featured in the New York Times. Thank you, Joe. This Joe Mantegna thing is interesting though because I haven't seen him in movies in a long time and he's a brilliant actor. I know. I mean this guy's been in some fucking amazing movies but now what he does he took all that money he just shoots shit he golfs a lot too i think he's always like in those golf tournaments he might be one of them arizona dudes you know arizona arizona to this day is the goddamn wild west it's the florida of the southwest you know what i mean a lot of people end up there with their own ideas. Oh,

they got their own ideas. Yeah, and that's why they had that sheriff to put everybody in pink underwear. Remember that guy? Yeah. He's still there. Aleppo. Joe Arpaio. Arpaio. Joe Arpaio. Yeah, he just got in trouble. He's good buddies with Steven Seagal. He'll get him out of trouble. Steven will get him out of trouble. Was that video real

with Steven Seagal's Brando size now? He was doing moves and stuff? Yeah, he's enormous. He's really big, right? He's enormous. Yeah, I've run into him at the UFC a bunch of times. Still has his skills?

Well, what those skills are, he's good at those things that he's doing in those movies. Would those things actually work's doing in those movies. Would those things actually work? No, they would not work. Right. What you're seeing in those things is what you would call active compliance. Uh-huh. So voluntary compliance, maybe.

Right. Look how big he is. It's so hilarious. It looks like South Park. He's running around. There's a bunch of people I've got to kill. And he's just got this enormous gut. He's right around, he's right around, there's a bunch of people I've got to kill. And he's just got this enormous gut. He's huge.

He keeps making these movies, and I'm sure they do really well in foreign markets, you know? Yeah. It's probably one of those things where if you're in Bulgaria, it's like Steven Seagal night every Tuesday. It almost looks like he's kidding, right? Like the way he holds the gun and stuff. He's so big. Joe Mantegna, by the way, was in Criminal Minds. Ooh, he's so big joe montana by the way was in criminal minds which sharp 205 episodes and just stopped this year who is this guy that he's i've seen like this guy before

who's the guy the white guy that guy oh yeah i have seen him uh say the code of honor oh 2016 oh it's coming out coming out now look out there's a bomb about to go off and i have a knife oh watch me walk away dude the classic look how dyed his hair is to walk away without looking back as the bomb goes off yeah that is original and awesome who's the guy who's the other guy that that other guy that's in those movies um does it say yeah craig sheffer okay oh you know who that guy is that guy's in that movie a river ran through it you know that's is that him uh-huh he was brad pitt's brother in that movie. There's a hell that some actors fall into. Yeah, that's him, man. Oh, yeah. Wow. There's a hell that some actors fall into.

Wow. I think that dude's nutty, though. I think that guy's very nutty. I think he is nutty. I was at a restaurant once, and that guy was talking to a couple. He was eating by himself with a bandana on. He was talking to a couple about someone being an old soul. Oh, God. Just one of that. Is that him?

Wow, he looks so different. He's got a wig on. That's definitely not hair. Yeah, but. What's going on there? Back up. Back up, Jamie. Why are you getting away from that wig?

What's happening there? What's going on? Just put a wig on it. Is he crying? Or is that a mouse? Oh, that's your cursor. Yeah, that guy was in a lot of good shit, though. And now he's doing these weird movies.

Joe Mantegna works. Yeah, I'm sure. Criminal Minds. He was in a really big series. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You always see him in CBS, just like... Oh, that's right.

He was in that fucking, that horror movie, too. That Craig Sheffer. Oh, that's right. He was in that fucking horror movie, too. That Craig Sheffer guy was in that horror movie. Remember that weird horror movie that was based on... The fuck's his name? Werewolf? No, no, no, no, no. That one. What movie was that?

I don't know. Johnny Scaryface? I forget the fucking movie, man. It was... There was a guy who wrote... Tales from the Crypt. What is it? Night Read? Ascension. Night Read? He's best known at horror fans

as the star of Night Read. Night Breed? Night Read. Are you sure? That might be a typo. It's about reading Good Night Moon. That seems like a typo. Go try Night Breed. Night Breed? Yeah try Nightbreed. Nightbreed? Yeah.

Night- Yeah, who made that movie, man? Because it was one of those- Look at that. Who was the director and writer of that movie? It looks like a Halloween shop. Because he was a famous sort of a- Clive Barker. Clive Barker, right.

That was Clive Barker? Yeah, yeah. Clive Barker made a bunch of really freaky fucking movies. Really interesting, weird takes on horror. Right. And apparently a very good writer, right? His books. I'm not making that up, right?

Right. You don't think so? No. I don't think you're making it up. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think that's where it all started out, is from his writing. I think he was a famous horror writer. Yeah. And then they did a few of his movies back in the day,

but for whatever reason they didn't catch on. But Nightbreed was a really interesting one. And that Craig Sheffer guy was in that. Was he ever on Cigar Aficionado? No, never made it. But Brad probably did. He probably got mad, bought the issue. Fucking Brad on this shit.

I'm not here. This fat guy's throwing kicks at me. Fat guy's throwing kicks. When you're in those movies, that's a fucking hell, man. Brian Callen is a great guy to talk to this about. Because Brian Callen knows a lot of those actors. He knows a lot of actors. Right.

And he's had friends that were like really famous actors at one point. Right. And now they have been forced to take these gigs whenever they can get them. Right. And you know, they're away from their family for months at a time and you know, they don't make much money and their hope is that this does well. And then eventually it's like you're in a holding pattern hoping that you

catch fire with a good, a good film and then it gets you into another it's like you're in a holding pattern, hoping that you catch fire with a good film. And then it gets you into another film and then you're back. But when you drop off, and especially if there's a transitionary period between you being a 30-year-old man, you being a 50-year-old man, those 50-year-old guys are fucksville. They're fucked. Nobody wants you until you're 60 and then you're someone's dad. Right. So there's like this period of time where you're not quite old enough to be a dad,

but you're definitely not young enough to be the hot guy. The lead guy. Yeah, you can't be really an ass kicker. Nobody's going to believe it. Steven Seagal has to do all kinds of crazy shit to maintain ass kicking status. All dying his beard. Beard's died. The hair is a masterpiece.

There's a lot going on. So maybe he's doing the Shatner thing. Maybe he's like, I'll just put the weight on and just be a bigger guy. It's a a masterpiece. There's a lot going on. So maybe he's doing the Shatner thing. Maybe he's like, I'll just put the weight on and just be a bigger guy. It's a good move. It's a good move, apparently, Shatner says. Keeps your face full. It's like the opposite of, it's his version of collagen. Just fill it up.

It's pretty smart. Just fill that. He does it on purpose. Yeah, I get it. He really, allegedly, he says, he might just be an excuse for why he drinks every night. Right, he can't stop drinking. Yeah. But he looked pretty good on Cigar Aficionado.

Jack Nicholson, I think, agreed is the best. If they called you tomorrow, would you do it? Yeah. What would you do? Ah, that's a good move. Is there a way to do it and not be wacky or douchey? Just you holding it, you feel douchey. Yeah.

How about you just stand there and it just says, trust me, I smoke cigars, and there's no cigar in sight. Look at that. Yeah, that doesn't work. Does not work. Yeah, I know how many takes that was. If that was one picture, if he was just there, he pulled up in his car, hey, how y'all doing?

And then he took a picture and he had the cigar, bam. But see, the problem with those photos is they are not candid. So if you're an intelligent person that understands that, and you're watching these fucking magazine stands, you know that there was some douchery involved in making this cover.

That is one of 500. Hey y'all, I got a white hat on because I'm a good guy. You want me to do it with the black hat now? You want me to do it with the black hat? I'm a white hat sort of a guy, according to my record label. So, is that Jeremy Piven down there? Yep. Oh, does he have a glass in his hand?

You know they changed outfits. There was a makeup lady. You know what I mean? It's just... What's this? No cigar. There's no fucking cigar. Yeah, him and De Niro had no cigar. Hey, what the fuck is this, Kiefer? Listen, pussy.

You're scared to pull it off. Look at Kramer. Oh, James Bond. No cigar. What? Go to Kramer's over there. By the way, best James Bond by far, right? Daniel Craig.

No one's even close. Yeah, he's the coolest. Oh, Kramer. Look at that. Kramer. He's over there. By the way, best James Bond by far, right? Daniel Craig. No one's even close. Yeah, he's the coolest. Oh, Kramer. Look at that. Kramer. He's lovable. You know what he's thinking when he's holding that cigar? I love black people.

Yeah, he's just thinking that word. He's thinking that word rhymes with bigger. Danny DeVito, he's got something going on. What is he doing he's lighting it too adorable Danny there's too many

too many takes there I know there's I know there was more than one take Arnold I can pull it off I can do it I'm dead on the inside I don't care

this is good for publicity this is good for my image when I smoke as a guy it gives you the feeling of prosperity I live in a mansion in the palisades and I fuck my maid I come inside them I don't care leave your woman with me I come inside her as well that's why his cover works Brody. I'm just sitting here wondering what happened. You're right.

Arnold is the perfect person to have on there. See, Sylvester Stallone seems fairly candid in that photo. That does. But I'm worried there was too many takes. I'm worried they took several takes. There's a guy who looks pretty fucking jiffy for 70 years old. Even if you are Stallone and you let it go Do you let them put Stallone's own as your captain?

No, no, no, you can't do that No, no, no, no I kind of like Stallone's own, it's pretty good I like what you're doing By the way, I met that guy Fucking super friendly, nice, normal, self-deprecating guy Very cool He might have been turning on the charm

Because I had to interview him for this thing for the UFC once but he was fucking nice. I met that guy too, Lawrence Fishburne. Nice as fuck. Super friendly. Is that Rob Lowe up there?

Does Rob Lowe have a cigar in his hand? How are you pulling it off, Rob? He's got enough douching him before I buy it. Look at his jacket. He's got that

fucking golfing jacket on, that country club jacket they just did the rose to rob low this weekend right yeah why does he have so many layers on i'm confused about his white t-shirt then polo shirt then jacket can someone turn the fucking heat on why why does rob's inside why is why does he have to dress like he's layering for a fucking backpacking trip in the andes but you know you hit on something if you play if you embrace your douchery yeah it works yeah if you're if you're uh trying to not be a douche with it it doesn't work oh cosby go down there to kawaii oh jesus oh look and he's got a glass of something an

espresso that's what he jammed him with right didn't he jam him up with like cappuccinos he put it in a drink he did he did because cappuccinos? He put it in their drink. He did. Because cappuccinos taste kind of shitty anyway. You're kind of pretending it tastes good. You get it with that fucking roofie in it. That cunt. Oh, my God. There was one above that.

There was one above that, Jamie, that I didn't recognize the gentleman. Right to the upper left with the black blazer on. Upper left. Above that one. Right above that one. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. Back where you were.

Right. Go Cosby and then go up one and then to the left. To the left. Bang that guy. Who's that fucking guy? The bomber. That's not real. Oh.

What the fuck is that? Oh. It's a fake cover. It's a mad. Look at that. It's a mad magazine at the bottom. Oh. Well, what that's doing is it's mocking The Rolling Stone cover

Cause Rolling Stone Put him on the cover And he looks like A fucking teen heartthrob Yeah That was douchey Well it was weird It was really weird

But is it douchey Here's my question It's just a photo of him And it is curious That he They took a tremendous Amount of criticism For this cover

Yeah Okay Well I'm looking at this What is This is just What happened Um You're looking at this. What is, this is just, what happened? You're looking at this.

This is just a young man. Yeah, but he has, I mean, he has a cover of a magazine. It's your job to put things on Rolling Stone and you know how to look at things that make people feel a certain way. So maybe they were trying to make them feel like hey he's a monster can look like this yeah but listen listen to the the heading how a popular promising student was fueled by his family what was failed oh it was failed was failed by his family fell into radical islam and became a monster yeah you're making that see now with the headline. I, I dislike it even more because now you're making him seem like he's just a vulnerable,

not, it's not his fault. You're excusing him. I think with that photo and that headline combined, it feels to me like you're, you're letting them off the hook. Well, that is a weird question.

Why is it that you do that? When you read a couple letters of a word and just fill it in for yourself. I do that all the time. Yeah. Where I'll find myself, even if I'm wearing reading glasses, I fill in a word and then I go, oh, it's that word. Yeah. For whatever reason, I don't look at the whole world. I saw fueled.

Yeah. Because I was thinking, okay, they would say he's fueled by hate or fueled by his radical religion. I wouldn't have been so douchey and corrected you, but I did change the of it yeah but how old is this kid at the time because i think if you're looking at him like an 18 year old kid yeah i mean that's relevant i mean you have a 14 year old imagine if your kid grew up in some fucking radical crazy fuckhead religion you could look that's there there's there's a good question that. How did this kid become this monster? How did he become this monster? Well, his was his brother, right?

His brother was a big influence. His brother definitely was an influence. But I mean, he's in there, right? So he's in this magazine. He's on the cover. And they have this picture of him that makes you go, wow, yeah. What the fuck is wrong with that picture? What's wrong with it is that he looks like a cute young guy that shouldn't have that problem they're not saying young heartthrob you know contact him behind bars they're just showing

an actual picture of what he actually looked like how is that any different than the ted bundy photos because the ted bundy photos one of the things that was most striking about ted bundy was that he's a very handsome guy so it's kind of fucking man. But you don't put him on the cover of Rolling Stone, which is a space for the people in our culture that you worship, right? They didn't put Ted Bundy on the cover with the Rolling Stone logo around you. That's a good point.

You know what I mean? That's a good point. It's a good point, but should they bear the burden of that? Should they be able to be flexible enough with their covers, with their ideas, to just say, what happened here? We take this guy who could be on our cover because he's a pop star. He could be on the cover because he's a star of some new sitcom that's hilarious.

Right. You looking at that kid? Right. He looks like a star. He looks like a star. And that's what I'm saying. These people know what they're doing when they're putting that cover on. It's, you are provoking, hey, this is a regular kid that going this way could have been on the cover of Rolling Stone. Maybe, you know, it's, they're definitely creating it to be thought provoking.

Do you think when guys bang him in prison, they put that picture on his back? They've got it up in the cell. They want to know, like, look, I'm fucking making it here. I'm banging this guy. Yeah's beautiful yeah it is kind of fucked up but i don't like they're saying there's something wrong with that photograph particularly like they could have had a picture of him being handcuffed and look with a terrified look on his face shock covered with blood or anything along those lines and everybody would have been okay with it. Right?

Yeah. Wouldn't they be? Yeah. I guess. For sure. It's because it's a sultry, innocent. Yeah. Isn't that a problem with static images in the first place?

Static images are such poor representations of what a person actually looks like and who that person actually is. It's one of the weirder things about photos and then you see like a bio below the photo and you're standing there tom papa's been doing stand-up clubs and colleges all throughout the country like what is this is a a portrayal two-dimensional portrayal of a person there's a picture of me out from when i hosted this game show on fox just for a summer and there's this shot of me out from when i hosted this game show on fox just for a summer and there's this shot of me in a suit i look so douchey i'm leering at the camera i look like a magician for some reason that picture is every anytime i go to a city and you go to go to perform anytime someone puts an ad out for a show that's the that's the picture i would not buy a

ticket to see that guy i can't scrub it from the internet but would you buy a ticket to see you i wouldn't buy a ticket to see any comic ever based on any fucking headshot i've ever seen that's a good point that makes me feel a little better yeah even bill hicks right bill hicks's headshot was him lighting a cigarette with the american flag yeah i. I would be like, oh, what are you, a rebel? You fucking clown. Hardcore. Oh, dude, you're on the edge. It's true.

There's no way to look cool. Yeah, that was Bill's headshot. Yeah. But, you know, in his defense, in 1988, that was a radical thing to do. That was. And that was back when there was like a big problem with people burning the flag. Yeah, during the Bush. Yeah. Bush one. That was. And that was back when there was a big problem with people burning the flag. The flag, yeah, during the Bush Bush 1. Bush 1, yeah.

I remember that. They were trying to take measures to stop people from burning the flag. Yeah. We're burning the flag! And Bill Hicks had a bit about it. My daddy fought for this flag in Korea. He was like, what a coincidence. My flag was made in Korea. Great joke.

Did you hear about the controversy about the football player this weekend not wanting to stand during the national anthem? Yeah. Yeah. Kaepernick. What did he, what was he protesting? The country. The whole country? The flat earth?

Is he a flat earther? He doesn't want to stand for a country that allows violence against people of color. Is that what it is? Yeah. Is he a black guy or a white guy? Black. Oh, good. Mostly, I guess.

If he's a white guy, I'd fucking hate him. I'd get mad at him. That guy looks pretty white to me. You sure that's a black guy? Okay, that's... There he looks very... He looks a little Middle Eastern. That's me.

Oh, boy. He's a bigger troublemaker than I thought. He's hanging around the pyramids. That's me. So, what is he saying? He won't stand? Did he have a statement? Yeah, he had a statement after the game.

Always. They always have a statement. You have some fucking respect for people who serve, especially people... Who says that? That's not him. That's Boone. Someone's really upset. Drives me nuts.

Someone's yelling about it. My view is that the anthem is about honoring the people who serve. This is another person, too. Find out what his actual quote is. What was his quote? I'm here to play games. I'm not here to salute symbols, you fuckheads. It's not a requirement for NFL players to stand during the singing of the national anthem.

It's suggested. Oh, really? That they do. It's not a requirement? Right. That's probably constitutional. Probably constitutionally, you can't require somebody to be patriotic.

Mm-hmm. Which is kind of ironic, isn't it? The freedoms that you get... But a company could probably... In this country. Could they require that of their employees? You could put the American flag on their clothes, maybe. Yeah.

Maybe. That's the big team. Put it on the uniform. The big team goes to war maybe. Yeah. Maybe. That's the big team. Put it on the uniform. The big team goes to war. We all get together. It's like people go state. First they go local, like high school team versus high school team. Right.

Then they go statewide where it's like state college versus other colleges. Then they go NFL. And once they go NFL, then it's like state franchises. That's the big league. But the real big league is when all teams get together and they go nfl and once they go nfl then it's like state franchises that's the big league but the real big league is when all teams get together and they go to armies right and the army is the biggest big team and then we go to fuck up other teams so it's very important that we keep an active organized sports program so that we keep investing in this idea of teams so that we can fuel the the big team, but the other part of it is if you didn't have the NFL,

Pittsburgh would be marching on Cleveland. Right. That is a problem. They would be, right? That's what it was invented for. If you didn't have sport, where are they taking that aggression? It's true. They'd march across and go after Cleveland. Well, that's how we keep ourselves

from going to war inside the country, inside the boundaries. But it doesn't keep us from doing it outside the boundaries. No. There was a whole Radiolab thing about the invention of football and what it really was was they had a bunch of men that came back from the war and they were looking for something to do to alleviate some of the stress. They created football.

It's one of the motivations for them creating football in the first place. Makes sense. Totally makes sense. And you need it. You need an outlet. Yeah. To let guys just run around like maniacs. 18 minutes long, but here's something.

I'll let you read what he says instead of... His speech was 18 minutes long? It's him talking in the locker room afterwards because all the reporters were asking him questions and wanted him to explain himself. He says, I'm going to continue to stand with the people that are being oppressed. Kaepernick. That's his name? Yeah. To me, this is something that has to change.

When there's significant change and I feel like that flag represents what it's supposed to represent, this country is representing people the way it's supposed to, I'll stand. Huh. Huh. He said, I don't know if I did what was right. He said he hasn't heard from the NFL or anybody else about his actions, and it won't matter if he does. No one's tried to quiet me, and to be honest,

it's not something I'm going to be quiet about. He said, I'm going to speak the truth when I'm asked about it. This isn't for look. This isn't for publicity or anything like that. This is for people who don't have the voice, and this is for people that are being oppressed that need to have equal opportunities to be successful, to provide for their families, and not live in poor circumstances.

Okay, that's a lot. He's added a bunch of shit there, too. Yeah, it's important you get your message out in just a phrase. Yeah, well, also, this is where it gets. People being oppressed that don't have the equal opportunities to be successful, to provide for families, and not live in poor circumstances. That's one sentence. The word to provide for families and not live in poor circumstances. That's one sentence. The word to provide for families and not live in

poor circumstances is one sentence. Yeah, that's idealistically, that's interesting. But America's supposed to represent the entire group experiment. You know, this experiment in self-government that's still ongoing. It's not perfect, it's not done, and it's definitely got some dark aspects to it. But if you don't think it's

the best thing going, you should go look around. There's some dark parts of America. There's some dark aspects to it but if you don't think it's the best thing going you should go look around this there's some dark parts of america there's some dark parts about how what we're talking about today i mean how we were founded yeah i mean how this land was acquired in the first place it's acquired by fucking murder i mean do you ever think that that's when we have problems that maybe it's karma well no because i don't think it's us it's not you or i but but there is something incredibly fucked up about a country that is so willing to look at some aspects of our society that are discriminating or discriminatory. Like the article that I pointed out today where this woman was writing about how women

are drinking because of the patriarchy, because of sexism has forced them to drink and this oppression. The American Indians were slaughtered. The Native Americans were fucking slaughtered, and they never come up. Genocide. It almost never comes up. When you talk about equal opportunity in America, it's very few conversations begin with,

we've got to do something about the poverty and extreme alcoholism on these Native American reservations You know why it doesn't come up because we wiped out so many of them. There's just not that many left Well, there's enough left that they have a voice and they talk but it's not something that people are concerned with I mean slavery Absolutely is fucking awful and is something that we absolutely should pay attention to and we should absolutely look at the impact of slavery over a long period like where these people lived as slaves for hundreds of years and then they were finally freed into this area where there's massive amounts of racism not just racism like like you know i like to stick to my own kind but racism like where people are denigrating their thought to be like a lesser human being. Yeah, it's systemic. It's systemic and it's deep and then it's going to take hundreds of years,

like many generations to get past that, right? Yeah. And we still definitely haven't gotten past that in a lot of those places. Yeah. And we concentrate on that and it's a big part of our national discussion. Conversation and yeah. But it ain't shit compared to what the Native Americans went through. Slaughtered.

Slaughtered. And their land just taken. Just taken. You know, I mean, if you read this article that I read today, I'm sure, first of all, again, this is not taking anything away from the people that suffered from slavery or the genocide that was committed on black people in a lot of areas. We could have two atrocities. Sure, exactly.

We could have two that are two big ones. A lot of people were hung. But I feel like it's not that I want less attention being paid on what happened to african americans i think they there's not enough there's not enough but we should have way more than we have right now on native americans it's it yeah it's it's you know it's really fucking crazy you know it's a real violation you know it felt really dirty when i saw it? I was on my motorcycle and went through the Dakotas and saw the Mount Rushmore. And when you're going, when you're driving through these areas and you're stopping and you're reading about the Native Americans that were there and what they were doing and how many there were, and then to know that all that land was taken and all those, the civilization was killed

and then we carve in the side of the mountain these heads. It's really, I mean, I am- It's all white dudes. We couldn't find a single black guy. I am, you know, I am pretty patriotic to a fault, to like a naive level,

but seeing that Mount Rushmore just felt really bad. Look at my phone cover. I like that. Patriotic as fuck. But seeing Mount Rushmore was just wrong. And then there's a guy,

there is a Native American carving a crazy horse on the side of a mountain to counter it. Inside the richest Native American tribe in the U.S. where casino profits

pay $1 million a year to every member. Wow, how many members? It says between the Mystic Lake and the six casinos, travel revenues are thought to be nearly $1.4 billion. So that would mean that there's at least 1,000. There's 460 people in the tribe. They get about $84,000 a month, each person.

There's only 460 of them. That's just this one in this particular one outside of Minnesota. That's the reparations. Meanwhile, the ghosts of their ancestors are in the woods every time they go outside to take a leak at night. They just hear screams and see people whisk by them with no heads. It's like, that ain't enough. It's crazy. It's disproportionate for the people that live there for sure has there has there been any culture in the world that didn't go in at some level and wipe out the other people to take the land

i don't think so i mean it's pretty i mean ours is really yeah but yeah yeah it's pretty standard you know it's what people do and it's also super convenient when you don't know what the fuck they're saying you know when you pretend that they're not even one of us, they're just pretty much a gobbledygook. We can fucking kill them. They're sitting on, their house is made of gold. Let's go and jack them. It happened everywhere. I think this is the first time

over the last several hundred years, especially the last 200 years since slavery's been abolished, less than 200 years, which is crazy, right? Yeah. 1865, you think about that. That's so recent.

Insane. But these last few hundred years of the printed word being distributed, reading becoming more and more common, which is really a very important point. Huge. That up until 100 or so years ago, it was not that common to be able to read, you know, in a lot of parts of the world. Right. There's a lot of people that were illiterate. So no information.

100 years before that, super common to be illiterate. Right. I mean, remember, they always have that in those cowboy movies. We used to have to write your mark, make your mark on this contract. That's right. Right? Yeah. Remember, they couldn't write.

Yeah, a lot of them couldn't. You know how to write? Yeah. No, sir. Well, make your mark. Yeah. They would make a they couldn't write. Yeah, a lot of them couldn't. Do you know how to write? No, sir. Well, make your mark. Yeah. They would make a mark. Remember that?

Oh, I make my little X. Nobody taught me how to write my name. So what we have in comparison is now you have a phone in your pocket, and you can talk to it, and it'll answer questions for you. I mean, I was in Seattle this past weekend, and I just pressed the button on my phone, and I said, Siri, navigate to the SeaTac Airport. Right. It goes, here's the directions to the SeaTac Airport, and just starts going.

It's amazing. I mean, within seconds. I know. The amount of access to the information that you need to sort of form your view of the world accurately is just so much different now than it's ever been before. So now I think we're looking at what happened to the Native Americans, or looking at what happened to the slaves, or looking what happened to... Like this whole Columbus Day thing.

They're just now starting to decide that they're not going to call it Columbus Day anymore. They're going to call it Native American Appreciation Day or something like that. Gee, about time. I know. But I have to say, as an Italian that grew up in New Jersey, I hate to see that one go. First of all, I don't trust him. He's not a real Italian. He's like me.

He doesn't have a vowel as a last name. Papa. Why is it? How come it's not Columbus? Yeah. What's the S, bitch? What's with the S? Yeah, you're a good point.

At Brown University, Columbus Day is now Indigenous Peoples Day. It's right after White Privilege Day. It's weird. It's like they have White Privilege Day. It's weird. It's like they have White Privilege Day. Did you see what Chicago did? Yeah. Chicago University said, fuck you. Yeah.

Fuck you, safe spaces. Trigger. Yeah, fuck you, trigger warnings. You little fucking babies. Deal with the world. Yeah. It's so great. Well, they watched enough YouTube videos.

They gathered the information, like a good institute of learning. Right. And they go, oh, the date is in, and you guys are retarded. Yeah. So great. They watched enough YouTube videos. They gathered the information like a good institute of learning. Right. And they go, oh, the date is in and you guys are retarded. Yeah. You guys are closing down free thought and discussion in the place where it's supposed to foster. Yeah. You're not just stopping racism, which would be a wonderful thing to do. What you're doing is you're controlling the way people address ideas,

the way they behave and think, and you're creating words that are dangerous, like that were normal, like words that used to be able to use with no problems. Now they're demanding things like, you know, don't call someone a spokesman, call them spokeswomen. There's no more freshmen, there's first year students. Like there's a whole list of them that i forget what university put it out but dave rubin uh put it up the other day this some university that made this new list of all the things that would not be tolerated anymore in in the nomenclature right all man wordspeak it's called wordspeak yeah they saw it coming mankind How come it's okay? How come you can't be, how come a human could be a man or a woman, but mankind, we assume that means male or it's a masculine sort of a, like, woman is in that too.

Mankind, woman. It's a special kind of man. Good point. It's like man that makes babies. It's like it is a man. It's human. Part of these creatures that came out of Tanzania. Well, I was so goddamn

fucking sensitive. And I wonder if I would think that way if I was a woman. If I was a woman, maybe I'm fucking tired of being a freshman. I'm not a man, piece of shit.

I'm a girl who's a first year student, you cunt face. I'm not a fucking freshman. What year are you in, Sally? Oh, I'm a freshman. You don't look like a man, you stupid bitch

living with all women i'm sorry living with all women as we do uh you get an idea around the house of like what's what's truly like something that they would carry as an offense and yes wouldn't well you also get a sense of how they feed off each other and convince each other what they're saying makes sense. That's a part of the problem. Right. Yeah, I agree. Nail polish should be mandatory. And the next thing you know, they're fucking passing laws.

We get this broad, this Clinton broad in office with all her fucking wanky medication she's on. Who knows if she's even seeing straight, bro? Dude, it'll work out perfect because the VP's a dude. Here's a perfect example of people writing for, like a lot of different people write for publications. HuffPost, they banned two of David Seaman, our boy David Seaman. They banned two of his articles and suspended his account. Why? Because he wrote articles questioning Hillary Clinton's health.

Is that true? Yep. Which is also the same reason why Dr. Drew's show got canceled. That's what they say. Because Dr. Drew, he was questioning Hillary Clinton's health. Now, what I've heard about Dr. Drew from actual doctors in regards to what he said, they didn't agree with some of the things he said. One of the things he said about armor thyroid.

He said armor thyroid hasn't been prescribed. I haven't heard about it being prescribed since the 1970s. I'm on armor thyroid and I've been on armor thyroid for about 10 years. What's it do? He's out of his fucking mind when it comes to that.

It is for hypothyroidism. I have something called Hashimoto's. It's a thyroid disease. No, it's not. It sounds like it, though. It's a thyroid disease that is an autoimmune disease that's hereditary. My mom has it. My sister has it.

And I have it, too. And it just, your thyroid doesn't work so well. And for me, it manifested itself in like headaches. I was taking this thing called Synthroid and it didn't work as good. It worked okay. It was definitely better than nothing. Yeah. But then when I got on this Armour Thyroid, Armour Thyroid is thyroid medication that's been made from pig's glands.

Oh. And it's very biosimilar or bioidentical to the actual hormone, so it's very clean and easy. Oh, wow. My body has zero problems with it. It really is effective. Amazing. Yeah.

So I've been on this for 10 years, and my doctor is one of the best hormone doctors in all of the country. Yeah? Yeah. He should meet my wife. He'll just shoot her. He'll say, we can't fix this one. But, I mean, my point is, this guy's a state-of-the-art doctor.

Yeah. And also, I've told people about it that had a problem with Synthroid, and they got on it and then thanked me so much because the Armour Thyroid works so much better for them. So, I didn't know why Dr. Drew said that. Because he said that Hillary Clinton had a thyroid problem, but he thought it was weird they were prescribing armor thyroid. It's very common. There's a reason why they still make it.

And he should know, more than anyone, being a fucking doctor, that people are not bio-identical. Whereas you have one person is allergic to peanuts, another person can't be around cats. One person responds very well to certain medication. Other people are like, Jamie, Jamie can eat pot. Nothing allergic to peanuts. Another person can't be around cats. You know, one person responds very well to certain medication. Other people are like, Jamie, Jamie can eat pot. Nothing happens to him. So weird.

He's a fucking weirdo. But the point being, if I ate what Jamie ate, I'd be curled up in a fetal position, calling girls I dated in high school, going, I'm sorry. I don't know what the fuck. It's been so long, but I still feel bad. You know what I mean? Yeah. We're all very different.

Why do you think he doesn't understand that? Well, hold on. Let me keep going. I'm sorry. Because my point is, people that I know that are doctors said that what he did was essentially malpractice. You're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to diagnose someone without any personal understanding of their case.

You haven't talked to them. You haven't studied their blood work. You're not privy to their inside information about their health, how they feel. You're taking this guess based on what's been released. And on top of that, you're doing it kind of to get publicity and attention. You know? Kind of? Yeah.

I mean, that's essentially what you're doing. If he did it in a respectful way where he was speculating, where he said, well, I don't know about the specifics of Hillary. This is how I would handle it, me being a doctor. I would say, I don't know about the specifics of Hillary Clinton's case, but I do know here's what can be problematic about brain injuries similar to the one that she apparently suffered. Here could be some issues. And this is what some people experience from brain issues.

Like, if you say something like that, that is a doctor talking about a non-specific, you're not talking about a specific person. You're talking about like, say if Tom Papa breaks his leg and Dr. Drew reads about it. Tom Papa was riding a motorcycle in Africa. He broke his leg. Well, here's what happens when your leg breaks.

And when people break their legs, your body has to heal it. And here's some of the complications that come along with that. Now, if he did that, that would be a doctor on television informing us about some real issues. Maybe he thought as a voter and as an American, as someone who's genuinely concerned knowing what he does know,

maybe he felt like he had to speak out about the dangers of someone who's had a traumatic brain injury having a position like being the president. What could be a problem? And then he looked at a medication list and he disagre being the president, what could be a problem. And then he looked at her medication list and he disagreed with it, which doctors will disagree with. I've talked to some doctors. They'll say, like we were talking about the bulging disc issue. I talked to one doctor who wanted me to get an operation. Oh, you're going to have to get that cut out.

It's not going to get any better. And he's convinced. Clearly he was wrong. Right. Because it got better. But he really- He didn't know shit about Regenikine. He had never heard of it.

He didn't want- He's like, well, I wouldn't put any of my eggs in that basket i mean it's just no there's no research and it's the reason why it hasn't been approved yet by the fda no no no no there isn't you fucking dunce and it works see see people are wrong all the time all the time so according to my friend who's a doctor who he said you're never supposed to do that and then what he did by diagnosing her publicly like that you you just don't do it. So if that's true, then they're probably justified in taking his,

canning him, right? So then that, would you say that that kind of eliminates the idea that it's a conspiracy? Like when I'd say he's lucky he's alive because she just kills bitches. That's what I hear. Hillary's just out there. Whack it fools.

I mean, if you pay attention To the same websites That will tell you About chemtrails And the flat earth Which are the ones That are truth Hashtag truth

They'll tell you She's whacked Like a hundred people Wow She's like She's like Seagal Like a lighter Seagal Do you not know this?

Do you not know about this? For real? I really don't Oh okay There is at least 48 or 49 people That have had dealings With the Clintons who've been mysteriously murdered, including the guy who released all those emails about the DNC favoring Hillary over, he released them to WikiLeaks, favoring Hillary over Bernie. Remember that? Yes.

Yeah. Well, that guy got shot at four o'clock in the morning in front of his house in the back, murdered. When? Like this summer? o'clock in the morning in front of his house in the back murdered when like this really recently yeah like really recently and he's one of several people who's been murdered that had ties to the clintons what clinton body count or left-wing conspiracy three with ties to the dnc mysteriously die yeah yeah dude this is this is not a joke die all the time they do die all the time and here's the thing you're not saying that she killed them either. But here's what you do need to know. This is what's really important to consider.

You're talking about, when you're talking about someone like the Clintons, especially if you talk about... Stop for a second. You're confusing the shit out of me. If you're talking about... He just keeps clicking on links. Well, you start doing that. What's going on over here?

What about if I click this? When you're talking about someone like the Clintons who run the Clinton Foundation, I don't know if you paid attention to the Clinton Foundation, but I have been slowly but surely going down a rabbit hole with the Clinton Foundation over the last couple of months, and it is crazy what they got away with. It's crazy, and there's some pretty direct evidence. There's some people that were involved, and they donated to the Clinton Foundation and they got arms deals. Now, whether or not they got arms deals because they donated or whether they did that as a thank you for the arms deal

that they would have had anyway, who the fuck knows? But that's just one aspect of what's problematic about this. Now, I'm no expert and I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Let me just state that for a fact. But what I've been reading about what people find problematic about the amount of profit that's been made off of this, and the amount of influence that is being sold with this, and that how many of these people that they're involved with in these dealings are donating to their foundation, and then in return return they're getting these deals passed and like it is shady as fuck okay and the people that you're dealing with in some instances you're talking about weapons bad talking about arms dealers you're talking about countries that

kill people countries with poor civil rights records like saudi arabia you're talking about decisions that you make you fucking know for sure people are gonna die right right and we know that about her that's just what looked at video of her laughing about the death of Muammar Gaddafi you see that yeah interviews like we came we saw he died right like whoa the fact that the bar for being a president is so low that you could have a video like that out there and it doesn't freak people the fuck out right everybody back off and then on top of that with all the evidence of all this weird shit that it's probably just standard operational procedure so here's my point you're involved with this this interconnected web of death, of killers, of war, of tough questions that demand

tough solutions. And then you're involved with all these people that are used to killing people. Right? Now, if something like this DNC leak comes out, and it's possible that this could bring down a ship, and this ship is huge, and there's thousands of people involved in this this ship and you might be one of those people involved in this ship remember like i think i know how to take care of this and you step in and and someone dies and everybody else shuts the fuck up and everybody panics and nobody gets caught and there's no ties to hillary because hillary didn't ask for it to be done right it's your she's a part of a fucking giant machine right so it might not even be that

she's out there doing it but it might be the fact that like you're talking about from her influence political power you're talking about you're talking about the presidency of the united states of america you're talking about a gigantic amount of the world that that controls right and she's in there right hasn't every president most likely hasn't everybody leader of whatever sure that's it's the job it's part of the job that's that's the thing that i keep what's us what are you showing us this is one of the three guys that they were talking about that just recently died okay former president of the united nations general assembly john ash mysteriously passed away on june 22nd a few days before he was scheduled to begin pretrial meetings involving shady financial dealings regarding a former

Clinton crony. Local police officer said he died from dropping a barbell on his throat while working out. But the UN oddly first claimed he died of a heart attack. The 61-year-old was supposed to testify against Chinese real estate developer, oh God, he's dead as fuck. year old was supposed to testify against Chinese real estate developer. Oh God, he's dead as fuck.

Nick Lapsang, who was implicated in the China gate scandal for funneling money to the DNC for Bill Clinton through Arkansas restaurant owner, Charlie try. Ash was arrested last year for allegedly taking over $3 million in bribes from the Chinese businessmen, including over a half a million from Ningenglapsi in exchange for building United Nations Conference Center in Macau. There's a lot in there.

And he was arrested. So he was arrested for taking three million bucks in bribes. And then he was going to testify. He was going to spill the beans and they killed him like a fucking like a movie. What's that source? The website's townhall.com. What's townhall.com? Well, the information I'm sure is not made up.

We should just Google his death and find out. Clinton body count or left-wing conspiracy, three with ties. That's just one article and one website. The facts of these people dying is undeniable they've definitely died whether or not they were murdered or whether it's not some crazy coincidence that all these people were about to testify or had secret information or leaked information to wiki leaks and they were murdered right fuck it man and there was that woman too what did what did she some woman involved in dnc was also murdered

recently the uh the staffer who dropped off the lawsuit i believe is who it was who like filed the lawsuit in august or maybe in july he was dead in august he was found dead in his bathroom what lawsuit the again for the dnc like okay for Again, for Bernie Sanders or something like that, I believe. So he was killed too, along with the kid who released the documents. They think he probably did it. They don't know if he for sure did it. But he is an analyst that had access to that information. They believe it was him and he was murdered. Look, they're killing people.

Everyone's killing people, right? I'm not. Are you? I can't. Are we on well the sultan no sourdough occasionally has to make dirty moves think about what people do for just a small amount of money right the horrible things people do to other people for small amounts of money when you get up to that level of billions of government-sized money.

Come on. Right? You see all the accusations against Putin over the weekend? How all those people are dying? Killed a reporter just yesterday. Yesterday? Yesterday a guy got shot in the head. The guy was critical of Putin.

Suicide! Yeah. Yeah. Definitely suicided himself. What the fuck, man? It's scary up there. Yeah. It's really scary up there. Did you see that video that a guy took, a surveillance camera, this millionaire who's

having some, or billionaire, I guess, who is having some big dispute with his girlfriend? He broke up with her. And so she alleged he beat him up. She wants money. And he has surveillance video of her lying on the bed, punching herself in the face. No. No. Yeah. That's great.

Yeah, I tweeted it today. You did? It's wonderful. You know what's wonderful? Listen, folks, it's not an us or them thing. We have to stop this. There's a thing that women do whenever a woman is involved in any sort of a domestic violence, abuse, rape type situation.

There's a thing that women automatically do where they think that that woman is not guilty and that woman has been abused and that woman is definitely not lying. And most of the time, you're right. But there are a lot of fucking liars out there. And some of them have penises and some of them have vaginas. And this is something, as human beings, we have to stop being on these fucking gender-based teams. Yeah yeah it's stupid because there are nutty bitches out there and some of them are men and some of them are women

and this woman is just sitting there is a video of her hitting herself in the face hitting herself in the face screaming and yelling and wailing herself in the face look at her she's fucking bananas man oh my god so she gives herself marks all over her face and then she calls the And wailing herself in the face. Look at her. She's fucking bananas, man. Oh my God. Yeah, so she gives herself marks all over her face. And then she calls the cops. And she's having a temper tantrum and storming around. And she doesn't realize that she's being filmed.

That's crazy. But meanwhile, I don't even know how much of this is admissible. Look, she's fucking hitting herself in the face so hard. I don't know how much of this is admissible in court in divorce court i don't know or in um well well not even divorce court but if he's being prosecuted for hitting her right yeah it was his fiancee but you know this is what everybody said i mean there's been a lot of these cases and this is the what johnny depp is claiming happened where his ex-girlfriend was saying that he beat her up.

And he said he didn't do it. And she must have did it to herself or faked it or something like that. How did that end up? Who knows? They're still disputing it. She's suing Doug Stanhope. She is? Doug Stanhope?

Oh, because he defended him? Doug Stanhope wrote an article saying that he knows that she's a liar and that she was blackmailing him. And that Johnny Depp had told him about it before any of this came out. That she had some demands. I don't know who's telling the truth. I don't know if Doug really knows. I don't know who the fuck knows. I wasn't there. Right. But here's the thing man. There are people like that nutty bitch that you just saw in that video hitting herself in the face. There's people like that. They're real people. That's crazy. They have vaginas and some of them have penises.

There is it's not men or women. No one's infallible. We got to get off these teams. Because this is a real problem. This is very divisive. It really separates people. This idea that anytime a woman accuses a man of something, it must be true. It's not true.

It's not right. Like we have to be sure. And I don't know how to do that, but I don't think the way to do that is to automatically assume that even like shady bitches are all telling the truth, always. And then every woman who's accusing a man of something, without a doubt, can't be lying. That's crazy.

It's case by case. It's case by case. Everybody's completely different. And again, you don't want to blame the victim. If someone is a victim and you go around and you say, I don't believe a fucking word you're saying. And meanwhile, that actually did happen to them. That's horrible. Brutal. But we have to be able to figure out what is what yeah it's hard to cut it to not come up with a general generalization exactly cases that's the

that's if there's some way that you can get the people that are dealing with these situations to break through that barrier and look at everything as a case-by-case basis i don't know how you do it we don't have enough enough knowledge of whether or not a person is being truthful. And then there's also an issue where people in their own minds change reality. Like, you can have an argument with someone and they can decide in their own mind over the course of whatever weeks have passed that that argument was a completely different beast than what was happening while it was going down. Your ego lies lost you.

You start telling the story to other people with distortions. Those distortions become a part of the reality. It becomes the narrative. It gets more and more exaggerated every time you talk about it. It becomes real. It becomes real. Yeah. Most people, it's really hard for them to accurately and objectively talk about a very

traumatic situation. Yeah. Like if you did get in a fight about a very traumatic situation. Like if you did get in a fight with a guy, and you're a woman, and you're engaged to this guy, and he really did beat you up, like, fuck. Just trying to relay that accurately has got to be terrifying and bizarre. Oh, completely. Yeah. Out of your mind.

And then you've got to parse these tiny little details about it. How much is this dude laughing? This dude has this video right now though like when he saw it crazy when he knew he had it's like oh fuck yeah and that's the thing she'll come she'll rationalize that i don't know about that she'll rationalize it she'll be like yeah he know i just never caught him in the act so you know who knows what she'll do but she's crazy enough where she will have a working system in her head of why that's okay well this is also what you get when women fuck guys for their money you get people who are mad like if you want to fucking a guy for his

money say if you're an attractive woman like this girl is and the guys are but she could probably do better yeah she's beautiful that you get mad at that right you know you're powerless never fuck over your head right just you're right stay within your means yeah no yeah know what you're dealing with because if people are not if people are not really attracted to you man it gets ugly it gets ugly it's ugly it's true it's not good you know everybody has this idea they gotta get a supermodel that's the dumbest move don't do it it Are you not do it? Don't do it. Don't fuck over your head because you have to pay there's a deficit It's like buying a Corvette when you're still in college, but you got the student loan. I'm gonna spend it on the car I'm crazy Bob bought a Corvette get the fuck out of here and you go outside this fucking guy's like

Yeah, I'm gonna start delivering it Dominoes and I'm gonna pay this car off,. I like driving a car. It's what I have pride. That's what a guy's doing if he takes a super hot wife if he's a fucking fat, ugly, rich guy. Crazy. You have to know if that's what you're getting.

Now you're competing with everyone who wants to sleep with that. And that is a supermodel just genetically. You've now increased the number of other alpha males coming for this person. Plus, I think a good move

is to always go foreign. It's like, that's how I feel about sports foreign. That's how I feel about sports cars. That's how I feel about trophy bribes. If you're going to get a trophy bribe, get one from some war-torn region of the world. She don't know no better. She's just happy. She's got food. She genuinely loves you for taking care of her.

She's so psyched. And if you move her family out of the ramshackle village that the Jews are about to plow down He move her whole family on your family. You guys will have a wonderful relationship based on actual appreciation They just like running water. Yeah, but if you date some blonde in Florida with big tits Oh, and she does coke who's come up through the minors. She knows she doesn't want to fuck you you and your mediocre dick She's not into it. She's been studying how to get this done her whole life. She's trying to think of how the fuck she can close this deal and make the big money.

And right when she was at the fucking finish line, you cut it off. That's what happened. He broke up with the fiance. Yeah, it's crazy. So she's like, there's got to be a way to make money out of this deal. Bang, bang, bang. She's just going she's fucking throwing a hail mary well they have whole clinics like that for for young athletes right of that

there's it's a business for do they yeah it's a business for women to come after these young athletes and get pregnant and do all these things they literally are counseled that this is one of the threats to your life yeah well definitely Well, definitely to your livelihood. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's real. And look, it's also, it makes sense because there's an imbalance, all right? It's power. Yeah.

If you're like some baller rich dude who's worth billions of dollars, you got private jets, you're pulling up everywhere in a Rolls Royce, people open the door for you and you walk out with your sunglasses, walk straight to your private jet. Oh my God. This is just like me this weekend. Yeah, he's so unattainable and the resources are so ridiculous that people are in some way,

some strange way attracted to him, right? Everyone around is like, Mr. Papa's coming, Mr. Papa's coming. When you see Mr. Papa, don't make eye contact with Mr. Papa. If he talks to you, be polite and be egregious. But whatever you do, don't ask Mr. Papa for money. That's Mr. Papa right there. Mr. Papa's here. Mr. Papa's here. Hi everybody. How

are you? And you just get the best of the best out of these people. And they think of you as like, wow, if I could just get close with Mr. Papa, my whole world would change. And it makes sense because everybody's trying to be nice to you, which is like weird, right? It's weird. If you're some super billionaire, Richard Branson type character, everywhere you go, everybody's kissing your ass and trying to be nice to you. You get this really distorted version of humans. Yeah. And women are attracted to you that shouldn't be attracted to you.

That's right. It's natural. But you think they should be attracted to you. You think they should. And they get to fuck you and they get to smell you and realize what you really are and who you really are. Like, ew, I need to get this guy to fucking pay me. This guy's terrible.

I'm getting mad. Where's my Ferrari, stupid? How come I don't have a villa? And then next thing you know, you get this guy buying you shit. And other women are coming after him, so he's probably with them. Yeah, and along the way, they're mad. The girls are mad. Like that Donald Sterling girl.

The girl who recorded Donald Sterling saying all that racist shit. He bought her a Bentley, a Ferrari, a fat condo. He bought her a gang of shit. And she was like, not enough. Not enough, you fucking disgusting bag of meat. You old leather saddlebag filled with rotten hamburger. Fuck you. I can't believe I sucked your dick pay me motherfucker pay me what do you think honey what do you think of black people i don't like it when they fuck you

wait wait hold on let me i didn't press record what do you think about what let's record what are you doing over there in that purse i bought you? Awful. Yeah. Could you imagine? When you hear stories like that, aren't you just happy that... It's not you? Yeah. That you just got married, have some kids, and you're just like... There's a lot of things that aren't sexy about all of that stuff. But being simple and just breaking it down to just, I go to my kid's school and I do my stuff.

Having a smaller world is a relief. It definitely is. I mean, there's a certain level that you can get too big and then things become like a giant, big, fat, crazy problem. They're complex. Yeah. Well, if you're at that level, if you're at like a Richard Branson level. Yeah.

Yeah. It's gotta be a, or a Johnny Depp level even. Yeah. Yeah. It's gotta be a goddamn problem. Heady. Oh, yeah. Heady. Lots of heady. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be a Johnny Depp level even. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be a goddamn problem. Heady. Oh, yeah.

Heady. Lots of heady. Yeah. Yeah. You've got to be a real disciplined person and come up with a structure for yourself of working and taking care of your life without spinning out of control. That's why a lot of people lose it. Yeah. I was talking to this dude in Seattle this past weekend who knew this guy who sued Paul Allen, the Microsoft guy, and won.

And now is scared to be in Seattle. No, he never goes to Seattle anymore. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, my God. He became super paranoid after he won. Oh, jeez. Yeah.

So, like, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Careful what you wish for. You got to too high a level of the game, son. How much did he win? Any idea? I don't know, man. I don't even want to know.

I don't even want to look into it. He's got yachts that are worth $100 million. Well, he owns islands. Yeah. They have stupid money. We were at the, there's an area called the Locks where the salmon swim through these ladders. It's really dope because you actually go underground and there's a wall, a glass wall, and you can watch the fish swim through these ladders it's really dope because you actually go underground and there's a wall a glass wall and you can watch the fish swim literally the wild fish swim up

these locks it's super fucking cool it makes you want to go fishing is it right near seattle yeah yeah it's ballard the ballard locks cool ballard is like a small area seattle which is a really really fucking cool area with a lot of like great little restaurants and bars and great community. A friend of mine lives there. Oh, nice. And him and his family took us to this place. And so we went to this Ballard Locks thing and we were checking around and we're looking at it. And one of the guys that was there, that's it right there. So you get to look at it through this wall and those salmon are

all swimming up this little ladder. Going home. They're going to die. But that's where they were born, right? Yep. The women salmon, the female salmon, they pump out the eggs, and the dudes just stand over them and whack off. They jizz on the eggs, and then they die.

That's how they, they don't even get to fuck. Right. Have you ever caught a fish that has cum in it? No. When I was a kid, i used to uh trick question when i was a kid i used to go uh fishing all the time i was big into fishing and i would do a lot of rainbow trout fishing and when it was really great fun to catch them is when they were spawning and uh you would throw out your lure and they would just attack anything they were super aggressive

right but then when you would pick them up, they would be jizzing. Like you would pull them out of the water and they'd be like, oh, I took a chance. Maybe there's eggs near me. Because they know it's over. Is fish jizz like our jizz? I don't taste it.

And I've never tasted our jizz either. Trick question. Damn. It's a minefield in here. You almost got me, you motherfucker. But you'd pick them up and they literally would be orgasming as you're pulling them out of the water there's jizzing all over the place yeah apparently it's pretty common

but i remember it a lot from when i was a kid i haven't had it happen to me since but i do remember it a lot right when i was a kid but i don't do nearly as much fishing so wait so paul allen this guy sued so. So Paul Allen has this guy at the locks. This is a circular sort of a thing. The guy at the locks who I was talking to, I was asking him some questions about some of the fish. He was pointing out the bays and how they changed this lake because there's a lake there. And they didn't realize that when they cut this channel that it lowered the level of the lake. And then that made it so the fish couldn't get back to the lake,

and it was a real issue. They said they were stacks of dead salmon, like 20, 30 feet high. Jeez. Yeah, crazy. Wow. They would go to the area where they had always gone, but now the river didn't go all the way to the end where the lake was,

and they would just wind up dying. Jeez. But he was saying that Paul Allen and Bill Gates both have these insane $150 million houses on this lake. Wow. Can you imagine what a $150 million house looks like, son? I know. What the fuck are we even talking about, man?

I bet it's great Wi-Fi. I bet the Wi-Fi is dog shit. I bet he gets viruses every time he... A lot of malware. Every time he opens up a room, a new virus, because everything's on computers. You wear a tie clip. At least this is the way it used to work. You would wear a pin, and you put that pin on.

And the pin, and this is like many, many years ago, so I'm sure the technology is far more advanced now. But the way Bill Gates had it set up, every time you'd walk into a room, the pin would recognize the user, set the temperature to your preferences, and play the kind of music that you like, and put a certain type of lighting on. Oh my God, it's got to be amazing. Yeah, but it's probably all outdated, which is kind of funny. Unless he's updated it constantly. I bet he updates it. Gets a new operating system. Yeah, it's Bill Gates.

Bill Gates. Did they ever do a tour of Bill Gates' house? I'm looking. I'm trying. I heard that it was mostly because of the technology that it's not that massive oh really that's what I heard

well that'd probably be a smart move is to not stand out too much I heard that he has like a submarine that he could escape in

drop in a pod and drop below like in the basement because in case somebody breaks in the house he could just shoot out out of a tube in a submarine

66,000 square feet that's kind of big 66 that's not so big. I mean, it's a little bigger than normal. 63 million to build. Jesus Christ. It's worth at least 123 million, according to the King County Public Assessor's Office.

The property is worth 123.54 million as of this year. Gates purchased the lot for 2 million bucks in 1988 before Windows 95. It reportedly pays around a million dollars in property taxes each year oh my god half a million board feet of lumber was needed to complete the project wow the house is built with scroll down a little the house is built with 500 year old douglas fir trees 300 construction workers labored on the home, 100 of whom were electricians. 50 died mysteriously.

I added that part. What does it look like? The house uses its natural surroundings to reduce heat loss. It looks like it's covered in wood. It's built into the side of the thing and there's trees they added all around it. What's above it? What are those, that wall above it?

Is that a wall of China? It looks like an apartment building. There's probably other houses. Oh, back there. Come on. The house can't be that close. Bill Gates lives that close to his fucking neighbors? On the lake, maybe.

Come on. That's weird. That's a house right above him. He probably owns it, too, I would bet. I would bet he would own everything anywhere near him. And fill it up with mercenaries. He's worth too much money. Oh, yeah.

He gives a lot of it away. The pool also has its own underwater music system. He did. He did give a lot of money away. There's a trampoline room with 20-foot ceilings. Whee! 24 bathrooms. He has a reception hall that can accommodate 200 guests. Six kitchens.

Jesus Christ. Enormous library. Houses of manuscripts. Gates paid more than $30 million for. What is the manuscript? The Great Gatsby. Wow. Well, I don't know if that's it. I don't know. You'll find a quote from it. No, I'm sorry. Yeah. What is

the manuscript? The Codex Leicester. What is that? Yeah, what is that? The 16th century. It's Da Vinci. Oh, man. He paid $th century, it's Da Vinci. Oh, man. He paid $30 million for a Leonardo Da Vinci sketch. Let's go get that. Let's go to his house and find it.

Well, apparently, I was talking to this real estate agent who told me that that is a big issue with houses that are listed, that are expensive houses, and they're framed. They're listed that are expensive houses. Right. And they're framed, meaning, you know, like inside you go in there, everything's already like, there's really nice sheets and there's artwork on the walls and staged is the right word. Oh. And so they have this artwork. A lot of these houses, like if it's an expensive house, they have expensive artwork.

And so people break into these houses while they know that they're selling the house and no one's living in it. And take the stuff. Take the artwork. Let's do it, dude. Dude, artwork is worth a lot of money. I know. Our official stream is stocked with fish.

I wonder if he gets in there and fucks those fish. He has a favorite tree, and it's monitored electronically 24 hours a day. He reportedly became fond of a 40-year-old maple tree that grew close to the home's driveway. It's monitored by computer. If at any point it becomes too dry, water is automatically pumped into it. Whoa, he's in love with a tree. He loves trees. Tesla was in love with a pigeon.

It's not that weird. Yeah? Yeah. Nikola Tesla fell in love with a pigeon. Oh. The sand on Gates' beach is imported from the Caribbean. What a cunt. Woo!

35 grand to tour it. Wow. Microsoft holds an auction each year where employees donate products and services to bid on. Proceeds go to the company's charitable fund. Gates has donated private tours of Xanadu. That's what he calls it. Xanadu 2.0.

You have to wear leg warmers when you go in. Yeah, and fuzzy slippers. According to the Puget Sound Business Journal, a Microsoft employee once won a tour on a bid of $30,000. He's an employee. How about you give your fucking employee a break, you twat? He wants to give. Well, it actually goes to the chair a little far.

Yeah, that's nice. He also has a 228-acre ranch complete with a horse racing track. He's got a lot of cash. When you read stuff like that, you go, man, I've got to become more of a baller. You're like, everything's free. No, him and his wife say we're going to try and... Size down? We're going to try and solve the world hunger.

Yeah, it's not going to work, but... I applaud their efforts. Fix malaria. Oh, what with the genetically modified mosquitoes? Yes. That might be possible, or 28 days later, zombies. Could be. That might happen too.

Could be. He had another, the mosquitoes become even fiercer and just come and kill us all. Yo, that's where MRSA came from. Who? MRSA. M-R-S-A.

What's that? MRSA. Medication-resistant staphococcus. Yeah, coccophobus. It's essentially medication-resistant staphococcus. Yeah, cock-a-wop-us. It's essentially medication-resistant staph infections that are ruthless, that tear through people and kill a ton of people. Did you ever hear about the four pests campaign? I was going to bring this up when you were talking about those mosquitoes earlier.

In China, like the 1950s, they were having problems with a couple different pests, mostly sparrows. It said in this case there were hundreds of millions of sparrows So there's a government mandate to try to get rid of them So people were literally going outside and banging on pans for hours at a time so that they couldn't land and they would die from exhaustion exhaustion Ten years later or so there was a giant famine because these all the pests were stopping eating All the bugs the bugs started eating all the

bamboo and rice. 30 million people died in China in like 1960 from this problem that they didn't. The wind of a butterfly can become the beginning of a hurricane. That's really what it is. Yeah, you can't mess with nature.

But on this mosquito thing, this emergency they're doing in Florida, the officials are asking to skip a field trial, and they want to just go right into it and not test these mosquitoes whatsoever. It sounds like that could be a bigger problem. Where if Congress had funded this a year ago, they would have done all those tests. Well, there's a lot of fucking people getting the Zika virus. And on top of that, the latest thing is that now they find out that men who don't show any symptoms

can transmit the Zika virus sexually. Right. So you could have no symptoms and you just drop a load on somewhere else. Some poor trout gets Zika. A trout. Oh, who we fucking? No, people. Oh, people.

Oh, and with a girl? Not officially. Yeah, girls.ika. A trout. Oh, who we fucking? No, people. Oh, people. Oh, I'm with a girl? Not a fish. Girls. Okay. And Florida. And apparently there was another thing that an unlikely ally, I was reading this, an unlikely ally of the Zika virus is high-rise luxury condominiums. For some reason, high-rise luxury condominiums make excellent grounds for Zika viruses to

start breeding. They live in the vents? I don't know. I don't understand why. But there's areas where the CDC is thinking about roping them off and going, okay, we've got a fucking problem here.

Yeah. Well, dude, the repercussions are dangerous. Yeah, what are the repercussions? What's going to happen if Zika spreads? The big ones are reproductive. For women, when they have kids, the kids develop this horrible disorder where their heads are too small.

Yeah. But... What if you could just, like, get a balloon in their head and blow it up? Flake their balloon. Zika's accidental ally, Miami's luxury high-rises, low-flying planes,

urban wind tunnels, and imprecise applications raise the risk of mosquitoes developing resistance to insecticides whoa oh interesting so it doesn't kill you it just gives your baby's little heads low-flying planes so it's like that's a wind issue aerial spraying with ultra low volume can only come down can only be done when there's not much wind. Oh, the spray. Oh, so the wind and then probably the high-rises are in the way.

And so around the high-rises, they can't spray. Wow. And they can't get low enough. Ooh. You got to get in there with like a bubbles wand. Wow. This is scary shit, though though because this is just one and I'm sure

they're going to That's the thing. Yeah. That's the thing. We went to the CDC Duncan and I did for this episode of my sci-fi show

where we talked about weaponized diseases and they were pretty frank about it. They said we are not worried about someone coming up with a disease. We're worried about nature.

Right. We're like no one has ever been able to successfully come up with a disease and there's all these fears and all these conspiracy theories what you should really be terrified of is just regular old nature taking a terrible disease and it becomes airborne it

mutates it changes and they do it all the time and they had Ebola they had all these crazy diseases locked up in this this lab where they had like these four-foot-thick walls and giant glass windows. You look through, and everyone in these spacesuits on, they're attached to these exhaust vents. They're walking around with vacuum tubes hanging off them. It was really creepy. Oh, my God. And inside those walls.

Yeah, just one little sample of anything. Mm-hmm. And these are hurricane-proof buildings, so the building's designed because it's right in Galveston. It's near the coast. Oh, my God. So these buildings are designed to get impacted by gigantic hundred-foot waves and shit and survive and keep all the bacteria intact. Why are they saving this stuff? Well, they want to study it.

They want to figure out how to solve it. They figure if they keep studying it, they might be able to find different ways to keep it from killing all of us. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ, Tom Papa. Just take some malaria medications. The dreams are awesome. No, no, no.

It's so clear. But it's not just that. Malaria medication doesn't work against the Zika. They don't have Zika medication, you fuck. You're giving people bad advice. What about Ebola? Again, malaria medication. You can dream that you don't have it.

Right. If you take it, the dreams are so vivid, you believe you actually don't have it, and then the placebo effect kicks in. When I was in the Africa with my... You can't say it like that. I'm sorry. When I was in the Africa. Africa.

In Africa. Like I said, the malaria medication gives you a little upset belly sometimes. Are you shit yourself? So when we were stopping through one of those little towns where I said I was all paranoid. Right. And I went to go use a restroom. Was it a hole in the ground? No, almost.

Pretty much. Kind of like a port-a-potty kind of thing. But as you go running in, this little boy, probably around eight, went, hey, look, whitey man. That didn't help with my paranoia at all. I like that. Hey, whitey man. That should be the title of your new special.

Yeah. Hey, look, whitey man. Hey, look, whitey man. I like that. It is prettyy man i like that it is pretty good i like that's catchy me in a suit yeah yeah you would like colonel sanders type suit on whitey man whitey man see you can't really offend people by calling them whitey though no whitey doesn't bother me a cracker that does none of that bothers me not at all anything that calls out my whiteness is like...

Yeah, sorry, I'm awesome. Why are you pointing out my advantages? White privilege. Then one older kid said, look at these motherfuckers. Whoa. Yeah, yelled that on our way into town when we were in our little open safari vehicle. Really? Yeah.

Was he saying it like in a mad way or laughing? Like a mad way. Like, what are you driving? What are you looking at? Oh. What are you looking at? That didn't feel comfortable, huh? No.

Just keep driving. Keep driving. Why do people just keep driving through this area where people go, look at this motherfucker. Yeah, with the name of the resort, of the place you're staying on the side, they know that, you know. Oh, you got some money there, fancy man. Yeah, some money. People coming from another country yeah fancy man motherfucker oh very upset huh yeah did you close your kids ears cover their ears i just went oh that was nice yeah how about that guy yeah like if i went to tanzania um and i would like to go um i would

want to think about how much time to spend there. How much time did you spend there? Ten days. That seems like a right number. It was perfect. Because you're, it's a big, it's far. 24 hours of travel. And what do you fly into?

Do you fly into Holland or did you go to? Amsterdam, yep. Dubai is another one. Went to Amsterdam. And I left from new york from here it's like a 11 hour flight and then you switch and then it's another eight to nine hours to kilimanjaro then you've got to get a puddle jumper and get into the serengeti get into the grumeti so did you um did you stay in holl? No, I just went.

Wow. I've done trips where you stop and like, we'll adjust for a day. Just get it over with. Just go. Just push it and get there. I did Rome this weekend, this summer rather. That's the best. We did Rome first and then we went to the Malfi Coast.

Nice. We did both of those. I've never been there. I've been to Rome. We were thinking about just staying in one place, but we said, let's fucking mix it up. It was the right move. Was it great? Yeah. Great.

Both of them were awesome in different ways. Yeah. Amalfi Coast is awesome because you can't even believe it's real. It's so pretty and so nice. It doesn't even seem real. Gorgeous. And then Rome is just the artwork in the Vatican alone is worth the trip. It's amazing.

What I love about Rome, too, is that it's still a vibrant city. It's so old and so much ancient history, but it's a young, hip city. People are working hard and doing stuff. Where you go to Florence and places like that, it's beautiful, but it's kind of like a museum. Young people aren't going to make it there. They are in Rome. Another thing that I felt was crazy was that the Vatican is its own country with its own rules.

That's why the popes all stay there after they leave because otherwise they can't, like Pope Benedict, they wanted to try him for crimes against humanity and he's being shielded by the Vatican. Like there's company, there's countries rather that are actively trying to extract him. Like they're trying with legal action to get him out of the Vatican so they can try him. Because the last pope was a really bad guy. I know.

You know the whole him shielding child molesters that went on to rape deaf kids? He was a big part of all that. He was one of the key, not just allegedly, one of the key guys when it came to relocating child molesters where they would molest new kids. Yeah, he was the architect of moving a lot of the people around, right? Yeah. Has there ever been an organization that's fucked as many kids as the Catholic Church?

Wasn't there a party that kind of felt at the Vatican like this is obscene? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Well, it's human creativity and human ambition and human, this overwhelming desire to create something magnificent, these massive fucking temples. Yeah. These enormous cathedrals. Right.

You know, like St. Peter's Basilica. Yeah. You wander around and you're like, this took how long? Hundreds of years to make. Hundreds. It's make. Hundreds. It's amazing. Amazing. But it's also that same psychotic behavior that makes someone create something like that

is also responsible for all these bizarre behavior traits that suppressive people that are in those sort of situations suppress people. And there's a difference between the people that are creating it and the people that are paying for it to be created those people that were just went in and took countries over and slaughtered people it's very similar to what we're talking about with the native americans it's also weird their time that none of that shit's even in the bible like that you have to have a pope right this they all make that up that's a completely made up thing by human beings that That's the hardest part. When you go to Rome and you start, there was a place, it was great, I forget the name of it, but it has a church, an active church, and then you can sightsee, you can go below

that is a really old church that, you know, just things, you know, in Rome, things just settle and they just build on top. So it's this active church, then underneath, a really old church, and below that, way underground, is this pagan temple. And they weren't worshiping Jesus, they were worshiping these strange pagan gods. And you just see, this was just man interpreting this feeling and using it for their advantage, whatever, a pagan level to this level to today it's the same and the thing about rome is like if you go in there wanting to hold on to your christian beliefs or any of that stuff and you look at the history like literally right there

in the landscape that this has just come from us trying to figure stuff out as there's no one truth yeah it breaks all that down i don't know how you can withstand it without just pure faith they just put blinders on yeah that mean it's the enemy that faith is without a doubt the enemy of objective thinking it really you have to have faith in order to buy into a lot of these stories and once you have faith you're just like i'm on the team no matter what okay no matter what hillary did i am on the team it's the same thing being being a loyal democrat being a loyal republican being a fucking loyal mac user being a religious nut it's a lot of it is the same thing it's like this human desire to just this is i'm settled on this i identify with

this i'm locked in it's comforting you feel like you belong this is the right way i don't have to think about this stuff they're going to do do that part of the thinking for me. That's why that pussy football player should have just stood up. Put your hand over your heart, pussy. I don't want to hear all this Black Lives Matter bullshit about equality. Put your hand over your heart. Your heart, whatever it is. Your heart.

You're going to be a quarterback. You act like a quarterback. Listen, as an American, you want to play soccer? What do you want to do? You want to play cricket? You don't like America?

How about you go play cricket? You get yourself some freedom fries and shut the hell up. That's right, bro. I got to get in this fucking thing. I got to get out of here. Tom Papa, I always enjoy talking with you,

my friend. I love coming by. You're a fucking beautiful man. I have to say when i was out there on safari you know you're cruising around for all this time i thought about you often i was like he would love to see i mean just animals eating animals anytime something like extreme it was like and it's controlled and your family would be safe i can't recommend it enough they're not they're too young right now give it a medication, but I think when I get older, I think I'm

going to definitely do it. It seems like something that should be done. Like I said, the Vatican was something that after I did it, it took a long time to get there and all that jazz, but I was like, I'm so glad I did it. I needed to see that. When you get home, did you bring your family? Yeah. When you get home, don't you feel like yeah, I did that.

I got those kids there. That was the same thing with Africa. It was one of those. I felt like for them, they had a lot of questions, too. So it was really cool, like, looking at all this art. And you're going one insane room filled with sculptures to another insane room filled with other things. It's nuts. The hallway is filled with incredible ancient maps. There's so much going on, you know?

Amazing. It really is amazing. Then you get home, you light a big, fat cigar, and you're like,'s right i did that i pretend i'm on cigar vision auto magazine i pose so then when i am one day i'll get it right i'll be like good night everybody see you tomorrow donald cowboy serrani will be here tomorrow tom papa on twitter go watch him he's fucking hilarious see you soon