The Joe Rogan Experience - #871 - Brendan Schaub

Episode Date: November 14, 2016

Brendan Schaub is a mixed martial artist and also a former college & pro football player. He also hosts a podcast with Bryan Callen called "The Fighter & The Kid" available on Spotify.

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So did you hear There were some fights This weekend I mean I breezed by him I saw the highlights I thought you brought me On to talk politics Let's talk politics

Can we get into that Let's talk about Jill Stein Yeah nobody Nobody's talking about Politics these days Thank God It's an important thing We should bring it up

Because it's not like I went on a few Celebrities Twitter pages and I was like – People are freaking out. They're not just freaking out. They won't shut the fuck up about it. Oh, it's nonstop. Nonstop.

And half of it is almost like – I think like they want everyone to know that they're upset. Oh, yes. They want everyone to know that they're one of the upset people. They're not one of the make America great again people. No, they promote that they're upset. They want everyone to know that they're one of the upset people. They're not one of the Make America Great Again people. They promote that they're upset like I promote a live show. They want people to know where they stand on it.

There's this one female comic and I go to her page every now and then. I know who it is. And I just go, Jesus Christ. Me too. I almost want to send her a DM just like, you gotta chill out. Just relax. You got to chill out. Well, did you see what is happening with Amy Schumer? Oh, I did see that.

She's so anti-Trump. But you can't make it that part of the act. Like people are paying tickets and people are just like walking out. Yeah. But she keeps harping on it. Well, you know, there's two ways of looking at it. There's one way that people say they have a voice. there's two ways of looking at it. There's one way that people say they have a voice

and if they have a voice it needs to get you know they need to use that voice to get the word out. Not at a comedy show though. Yeah. Make me laugh. I didn't mean to call you a bitch. You're right. But make me laugh. You can call her a bitch. She would call herself a bitch. Yeah you know what I'm saying though. At least back

in the day she would. Yeah. I mean she's like way more she's way more like political and feminist now than ever before. If you go back to the old Amy Schumer that was on Opie and Anthony, she wasn't into that at all. She was like one of the guys. That was like her selling point. Maybe she got a little older and she's like, man, I want to talk about different stuff. Yeah.

But that's not the platform for it, I don't think. Well, if it is, you got to be really funny. Like if you have like an anti-Donald Trump joke, that's fine. For sure. But it's got to be funny. It's got to be just, it's, like, there's no room for that. Like, it used to be that comics could have, like, these rants where they made, like, really important points inside of fun. And it wouldn't be funny.

And people kind of accepted it. But that's what a podcast is for. Sure. It's a new world. We live in a new world. I go to an action movie. I don't go to an action movie to get a massage. No.

All of a sudden, when you're in the action movie, someone comes over and massages you. You need to relax. You need to be less tense because you're really concerned about this action film. It's really not relevant. Well, yeah. It's like watching a porno. I don't give a shit about the story. I fast through.

You know what I'm saying? I fast forward to the good stuff, man. Some people do like the story. Some people watch for the story. They want these people to be in love before they fuck. Or they want them to be escaping a bad relationship. Mommy issues. I don't know.

I'm just saying there's a place and time for it. There is. Do you see Dave Chappelle in Saturday Night Live? Yeah, that was great. That was great. Funny. That was a good time for it. Made a good point. Yes. Saturday Night Live? Yeah, that was great. That was great. Funny. Made a good point. Yes.

But he's also supportive. Exactly. He's brilliant. Dave's a master. He's a master. He's the best. And he's also a very sincere person.

One of the things that is driving me crazy about a lot of this tweeting and craziness, I was in New York City for the fights and me and my friend Cam Haynes,

we went to the gym and young Jamie was there too but you weren't with us when we were stuck in the in the swarm of humans just me and Cam we got to the gym no problem but on our way back the protest had marched through the area that we walked through and all of a sudden we couldn't go anywhere it was just jammed with people so you're literally shoulder to shoulder with people. Like just everybody's touching everybody. There's just, you had to deal with it. There was nothing to do with it, which is one of the reasons why a fanny pack is so important folks.

Cause you keep your money in your front. Okay. Nobody's pickpocketing. Everything zipped up. My shirt goes over that. I'm going to know. I'm going to know if you're reaching in there. To get there.

It's going to take some work. Cause pickpockets do go to those things. You need to be aware if you're one of those super lefties at least ago and demonstrate shit jacked so While we're walking this one guy with this perfectly manicured beard I'll never forget he had a really nice like wool jacket on he was it was obviously like a wealthy liberal character And he's screaming out. I mean screaming in my fucking ear. He's right here.

He's touching me. He's touching me with his shoulders. He goes, Donald Trump, KKK, racist, sexist, anti-gay. And he wouldn't stop. He wouldn't stop. And part of me wanted to go, hey, man, could you just like, if you want to go in the protest, the protest is in the street. Like, you're on the sidewalk.

This isn't the protest. This is some non street like you're on the sidewalk this isn't the protest yeah this is some non-committal shit you're doing here like if you want to be out in you'll be all in but he's like he's doing drive-bys he's like a walk-by screaming protest but does it really do anything he saw a black guy in the distance i swear to god he starts going he shut up black lives matter black lives matter yes he did oh hell He was so obvious. He's just trying to get everybody to join him. What my friend Michael Shermer likes to call virtue signaling. That's what it is. He's peacocking his virtue.

And just trying to get everybody to jump on board. Let the world know. I'm sensitive! There was a woman with a sign that said, Rape Melania. Jesus! Yeah, and apparently that's... Think about writing that thing out.

Crazy. Here we go. It's a hashtag on Twitter now. What? Here's what's crazy. Here's what's crazy. Twitter allows that hashtag. Twitter doesn't allow

Hillary for prison. What? Check that. Make sure that's correct. How biased is that? Make sure that's correct because that's what I've been reading. Jamie doesn't think he's buying it.

Will you hashtag Hillary for prison? Make sure that's correct because that's what I've been reading. Jamie doesn't think he's buying it. Well, you hashtag Hillary for prison. Look if there's any tweets. And then hashtag. That's ridiculous. Dude, there's pictures of people with those signs. I don't think it's just one person. And there's a bunch of people who used it who call themselves like as if somehow or another if donald trump is a misogynist somehow or another the way to get him back is to rape his wife or even to suggest raping his wife what kind

of messages you are you spreading if you're posting that and you're you're in a protest you're making a sign of that it's fucking scary what does it say this is hillary hillary for prison i searched and there's a lot of stuff that pops up. Well they might have banned it since unless that's recent. Maybe they banned it before. Well maybe this guy doesn't know what he's talking about and I just read some nonsense. Maybe I just read some nonsense. I could have read some nonsense.

All of it is just bullshit. It's just bullshit. There was so many angry angry people and Well how many celebrities were like if Trump Trump wins, I'm out of here? You ain't going nowhere. Did you see the fucking signs that people have made, some artists made for, you know those benches, bus station benches where they have the billboard in the back of it

for real estate sales? It's a real estate sale, and it's all these people who said they were going to leave the country. It's their face. One of them is Cher. That's awesome. I amy schumer's got one of them too everyone says that you're not doing shit you're not going anywhere you said she was going to move to spain but she's a fucking comedian you know she's like i guess i'm learning spanish or something you know that's just like what a comedian would say it's you know people freak out people are all mad but

what she said is that like you know you're just you you're just as disgusting as the people who voted the people who actually expect me to move are just as disgusting as the people who voted for that uh anti-gay woman hater or whatever whatever she called them but series of insults she's just so upset and then obviously she's performing she's doing theaters or stadiums even. Big ass places. Big ass places. Yeah, arenas. I mean, she's killing it.

She's building it. Moving to Canada election day sale. Meanwhile, here's what you need to understand if you do move to Canada. Those are great, by the way. If you do wind up moving to Canada, when you move to Canada, you realize that Canada has a very similar immigration policy to what Donald Trump is proposing. It's very strict. It's very strict.

It's incredibly difficult to immigrate to Canada. You don't just do it like that. You don't just go over there and all of a sudden you live there. I mean, maybe if you're Amy Schumer and you got some cash. Maybe. It's still strict. People don't realize how strict it is. It's fucking strict.

Yeah. I'm just going to go to Canada. No, you ain't, bitch. It's essentially very similar to what Donald Trump is proposing. Like, here's the thing about Canada, and I love Canada, by the way. Me too. I'm a huge fan. They're like some of my favorite people in the world. When you go to Canada,

if you have a drunk driving thing on your record, you can't get in. They fucking send you home. It happens all the time. Yeah, it's a big deal with the UFC, too, with the American fighters. If you have anything, the chance of you getting up there and getting cleared, because customs is strict as shit. Yeah, Kevin James got into just a standard fist fight once when he was younger. And I believe he was arrested, but no charges were filed and it was all dropped.

It was one of those, there's a brawl and he was a part of it And he got arrested with a couple other people no big deal. You something a young guy did He's up there to fucking do just for laughs and they flag him for it turn them around yeah Eddie Bravo went up there Eddie Bravo legally was carrying a gun legally because he was no no listen to me He was working for a cash checking business This is way back in the day before i even met him and eddie used to have to carry around large sums of cash and he had a license to carry a pistol because of that so he gets pulled over for like speeding or something and he tells the cop he goes hey man just so you know i work for a check check cashing company and

i carry large sums of cash and i have a pistol and it's loaded and it's in the car. And the guy goes, okay, well step out of the car. Give me all your paperwork and this and that. I'm going to have to handcuff you while we check this out. So they check it out. They go, yep, you're all good. They let him go. So nothing, right?

No charges. Nothing. Carrying the pistol legally. Every time he goes to Canada, it comes up. Damn. Dude, it got so bad that when we would go to Canada, I would ditch him. I would ditch him. I'll see you in there, man. I didn't want to Canada, I would ditch him. I would ditch him. I'll see you in there, man. I didn't want to get pulled into immigration if I

said I was with him. Hell no. If I said I was with him, they'd pull me into immigration too. I got stuck there. Might miss the show. Dude, I got stuck there for a fucking hour and a half once. They might not let his ass in because the conspiracy's like, we just can't. Tower 7. We just can't, sir. Tower 7. At our live shows, we keep

getting, so do you and Eddie hate each other? How's it work? And then I'm like, get out of here. I love Eddie. And then someone started literally a chant, Tower 7. Tower 7. It's so weird. Did you see that fucking meme with Tony Ferguson when Tony Ferguson beat Rafael dos Anjos?

Eddie Bravo was saying something. It's like when your boy just wins his fight, but you have some new information about Tower 7. And he's all up in his ass. So hilarious. Whoever made that is brilliant. There it is. I fucking love Eddie. Me too, man. Listen, Eddie's my brother. Anybody that thinks I don't love Eddie, you're crazy.

Oh, I agree. Whatever nutty things that he believes that I don't believe, I don't give a fuck. I love that dude. No, I still love him too. He's my friend. He's just batshit crazy in his kind of way. I still like that flavor that he's delivering He enjoys that shit He's so into loves it. He was taxing on stop. Yes. He sends us group. Yes Do you see the latest one? He's putting on Twitter about some? It's grainy footage that looks like it was invented back when the fucking wheel was invented

It's grainy footage that looks like it was invented back when the fucking wheel was invented It's grainy footage of some guy talking about some the sex parties. They used to have what children used to Bro, Hillary's not Satan. You don't really think she's saying I I don't man I find it hard to believe and it'll lash out at me. I'm sorry Satanic cults when you see shit like eyes wide shut though Don't you want to know what can hear about like this skull and bone stuff they used to do at yale yeah that shit's real yeah like that is real so like i would i would i wonder like if you grow up in the hamptons or you live in uh like one of those crazy connecticut towns where all those super billionaire hedge fund characters live and all their kids go to the private schools they get sent to these big fucking universities and you get

pledged to a fraternity because your dad was in it and you know there's a lot of that shit going on yeah they're called the skulls right that's like the elite i thought it was just the skulls no well they're probably that might be a movie too yeah well maybe there's a movie they would never invite us into that stuff no like they just won't shut the fuck up no like we tell them anything they're chatty kathys yeah you tell them anything they just blast it on their shows. We can't have them on there. Anybody who thinks we're getting in on the Illuminati. I get accused

of that so much because of the Flat Earth people. The Flat Earth people believe I'm a paid shill. I know. I get it too. Oh, you're just going to leave the UFC and step right into that? You don't think that's the Illuminati working? You don't think he's part of it? Rogan dragged him into it. Yeah, man You don't think I would chat away on my show about it would be a hilarious is if there really was

Organization that was paying people off to lie about the earth being flat That would be amazing if like we were able to keep it that hush-hush if the world was flat this whole time And all these people that claim to be flying around it in a big circle like people have navigated the globe It's amazing. If we were able to keep it that hush-hush, if the world was flat this whole time, and all these people that claim to be flying around it in a big circle, people have navigated the globe in a plane. They've flown over it in a plane. They're all in on it. They're all getting paid.

Just everyone's in on it. You go over to their house, Ferrari, Minx, Disco, everybody's partying. You're like, where'd you get all this money? Shut the fuck up, dude. Shut up, bro. Just from a boat going around the world? Yeah, man. It's all flat earth money.

Flat earth denial money. It's huge. This is the world Eddie Bravo lives in. He hasn't quite gone flat earth. Flat earth pulls him back. He started messing with it a little bit, though. He did. He did.

But he went dinosaurs aren't real. Dinosaurs aren't real and the moon is fake. We've never been to the moon. Well, not only that, all the footage of NASA, all the NASA footage is fake. NASA is full of shit, and then the bands, all the bands, like the Beatles, the Doors, all that stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, they were made by the CIA. Mm-hmm.

Right up here in Topanga Canyon. The thing is, though, if you know Eddie, Eddie's a fun dude, and half of this stuff is because he enjoys it. He enjoys looking at conspiracies just like, and it looks some of them are true, right true There's real that's the problem. That's the real problem the real problem are true So he has an argument on some stuff, but you it's hard For he's so balls deep in the conspiracies that it's hard for him to yeah, it's like Deep that he's bent over

clothes pin and His he's like his ankles are inpin, and his ankles are in. Yeah, he's all in. What is this? That's a nice tower. Be ashamed if someone knocked it down. Is this recently? Yeah, he just posted it.

He's probably listening to us. He's so hilarious. He's so funny. He's so crazy. But the thing, too, he's passionate about it. So people think when him and i discuss it or any of us discuss it you know and he's so passionate he's not arguing with he's just like like if you really think something's true you're like come on man that's that's eddie well i here's my take on a

lot of this shit there is not that much time you don't have much time you have 24 hours in a day and you gotta sleep for eight so that's not a lot of time for me and if i go down these goddamn fucking rabbit holes that shit will take forever i've done it with well i've done it with legitimate things i've done it with uh you know like archaeological fucking discoveries where i'll just start reading up on some crazy temple that they found in cambodia and i'm two and a half hours later i'm you know researching this and i'm like god i gotta i gotta that's shit to do i got shit to do so like for me to do that about ghosts that's basically what some of these conspiracy theories are like you just don't

i also just i mean what am i gonna do when i get when we're gonna find someone on the internet no one else has found? I'm fucking Nicolas Cage from National Treasure. I'm not going to go on this weird escapade finding something no one else knows. And I can just ask Eddie because he is a fucking double black belt in conspiracy theories. He makes you watch YouTube videos, though.

He tried to get us to do one during the last Fight Companion. He tried to put one on. Dude, it's only five minutes. Five minutes? Five minutes during a live minutes? I can't. Five minutes during a live podcast? I can't do it. I can't do it. I don't have it in me. I don't have it in me.

I forget what that one was about. Something about money or something. I don't know. Or Tower 7 or something. He loves it. He does. It's a sport to him. It's what he's into.

Yeah. I don't have time anymore. People go, oh, he fucking sellout now, bro. Fucking sellout. No? Well, no. Sir, no. If you solve the Kennedy assassination, it will not help your life.

But it's also not on the internet. I hate to tell you that. It's probably not in some chat room you're in. It might be on YouTube. You just got to find the video. You just got to go down deep enough. You're going to. About 600 views so far.

But if we can get it out there. Someone sent me a fucking three- hour one just two days ago well three hour kennedy assassination one i'm like i don't i can't simply too long can't do it anymore can't do it and if they do figure it out it would be interesting but i don't i don't see how they could i think they're never gonna get past where they're at right now there There's some evidence. There's some non-evidence. There's some speculation. There's that Zapruder footage. There's some shit. But is there any expert actually open the case back up?

Do they really give a shit? They can't. There's not enough evidence right now, like current physical evidence. Yeah, so it's not happening. It's over. Yeah, they wouldn't do it anyway because who are you going to try? But also, who gives a shit? He's dead. Yeah, everyone's dead. Yeah, what are you gonna do?

Yeah, what are you gonna do? All right still doesn't bring him back. It's all so fucking weird Because we know the government does a bunch of fucked up things We know they do but it's spending time trying to figure it out That's what I was thinking when I saw Trump sit next to Obama I wonder if Obama told him how much work he has to actually do That's why he looks so fucked up cuz Trump was sitting next to Obama He was just he looked like Jesus Christ. He looked like like he was like what I think it hit it hit him during that meeting

Obama's like this is my daily life. Here you go. And he's like, holy This is what it says. Trump reportedly surprised at scope of new presidential duties. Surprised at scope? God damn it. Well, it's like you have a hundred jobs. There's a reason why they age so hard. One man shouldn't be responsible for

it. I mean, I think you've spoke about it before, but to have one guy with that much power and to have all that on his pressure should be a committee of just straight geniuses that are figuring it out. Well, man, if you want to look at the bright cloud, if there's any bright cloud about Donald Trump being in office, is that he's an outsider, a complete outsider. He's not a politics guy. And so we'll get to see just by watching them sort of duke it out what shape they take, we'll get to see, we'll get a better view of the mechanism behind the machine than if

Hillary Clinton was in office. Don't you think with, I think people are going to be surprised at how little power the president actually has. Probably. Because they think he's going to do all this crazy stuff, and then people are going to be like, nah, bitch, it doesn't't work like that you have to jump through all these holes the house of legacy all this stuff yeah well that's what's going to be interesting too is to hear him talk and complain about that and see what happens yep and it's going to be

interesting we got a culture battle going on right now too like all those people marching down the street screaming not my president not my president well he is he is though i hate to tell you guys he is well he's the you know you don't like get you don't the president doesn't become yours so it's not yours if you live in the united states though he's the president of the united states so look at me do you say my president do you say my president i do you do no i don't my president i say the president yeah he's the president yeah not my president i live in a whole new world of my own. It is weird. Yeah.

What? I don't know, man. It's probably, look, I think this is what I've been saying, that we go like this and we go like that. We go right and we go left. And this is how people always have. They go back and forth. The country goes back and forth. We try it one way, we don't like it.

They said he was supposed to be at UFC 205. Well, his son was there. Which one? Donald Trump Jr. God, they're not going to win any awards for good looks, are they? He's not a bad looking guy. Really? The youngest, youngest one or the one who's like killing it? There's one who's balling. The one who's got the hair slicked back.

Darker hair. I'd have to see him. He's a nice dude. Was he cool? I've been, actually, I knew him from a while ago. He's friends with a friend of mine. Oh, really? Yeah So that the family's gonna have to take over his other business adventures while he's president How about that the whole thing is so crazy so weird. It's so crazy looking him at him up there

It's so crazy. Then how many of them are gonna live in the White House? Do they know I don't know They're weird. Yeah Like could all of them live if they want or is there like a cap? Like dude you can only bring two you can't be up in there Do you know who I fucking love? Who is that sheriff? That black sheriff that wears the cowboy hat everywhere Sheriff uh

What the hell is his goddamn name? The one out of Dallas? I think he is We're speaking about the same dude? When the Dallas shooting happened? He's always yes yes Something Clark? Is his name Clark he's I think he retired did he well he didn't retire from like Fox News the dude's always on one of the same guy

maybe here I'll find him because I just start what is it David Clark his name's David Clark bro Sheriff David Clark Eric Holder is the attorney general, you fuck. You non-American. Very anti-American. How do you not know that? You don't know who Eric Holder is? How dare you? I like to do that when I know someone who other people don't know.

I go, how the fuck do you not know that, bro? Yeah, he's a fucking character, that guy. He wears a cowboy hat in honor of his family members of Dallas Cowboy. So he wears a Dallas Cowboy hat everywhere? He wears an actual cowboy hat everywhere. That's aggressive, sir. There's a crazy picture that he posted of Donald Trump winning the Ellis Island Award in 1989, standing next to Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks. Damn.

It was an award for contributing to the conditions of inner-city black youths standing alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks. Damn. It was awarded for contributing to the conditions of inner-city black youths standing alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks. No one talks about that. Yeah. Well, what doesn't help Trump is the head of KK was like, we basically got him in there. We support him. We're the reason he got in there.

He had to come out and be like, I'm not cool with that KKK stuff, man. That's not me. Donald Trump, KKK, racist, sexist, anti-gay. It's kind of catchy, though. I wanted to tell him, man, go out into the street. But I was worried. I was literally worried. Dude, get the fuck in the street.

That if I said it, he'd be like, you fucking racist. What did you do? You're a Trump supporter? Like, his vitriol was so intense. And then they're going to jump all up on you. And then someone's going to be like, Joe Rogan! No, I'd say just go to the... Come on, man.

Go over there. Get over there, man. Let me do my thing. Go over there where everybody's actually protesting. Don't make me get Cam Haines get his fucking bone hair out and start fucking murking people. You wouldn't be able to draw back. Back up, son. There was no room to draw.

It was just... It was so crazy how many people were there. It was just strange. Just to protest thousands of people. New York's busy as it is. But it's...'s it's uh you know the cops broke it up like cops were screaming and shit so it was like that being there at the weekends with the biggest fights in history all of it was just so crazy it was a that was a nutty scene man being there in the weigh-ins felt surreal it felt just like finally it happened? Yeah.

It was crazy. The weight of the event was thick in the air. It had this feel to it that was very different than any other show we'd ever put together. Dang. That's the one show I wish I was at because it's so special. It's going to be tough to beat that. It'll never be. You'll have big, giant events for sure.

But it'll never be like that because that was the last block of corruption. Correct. That was standing in front of the UFC getting into New York. I got a little worried when I saw, where was I? I think I was in Atlanta doing a live show, but I saw on Twitter the crazy press conference with Conor doing that stuff. I'm like, no, I'm not. And it was kind of weird. I was like, well, it seems a little gimmicky, blah, blah, blah.

And then the weigh-ins, he looked a little more serious. And then the night of the night of the fights i was like i mean you couldn't have written a better show i mean that the the fights the night the way everything happened it was amazing man by far the best ufc i've ever seen it was by far the the main event was almost it was almost bizarre it's almost bizarre how good Conor is. Almost bizarre the way he picked apart Eddie Alvarez. Almost bizarre. Like magical. That's almost the word I want to use. He touches motherfuckers with that left hand.

Have you ever seen Eddie Alvarez? They didn't even look like they were in the same planet. One guy looked like he was from Mars. The other guy looked like he was from mars the other guy looked like he's just a normal dude trying to figure it out well it looked like eddie the moment he got hit was like what the fuck you could see on his face he was like holy but jesus what am i doing here and then he goes well all right he's not very good at wrestling let me try this wrestling and connor's like that was your shot oh bro you're in for a long night i think eddie

realized like holy fuck well he's already touched up a little bit when he finally went in for the shot. And I just think Conor knew then also that he had him. And how calm was he? Ridiculously. Just calm, upright, and just waiting. And then the accuracy of that combo that finally finished Eddie, that's what I think makes Conor so special is his accuracy when he throws punches. Eddie's moving as he's landing the stuff.

I've never seen anything like it. Like you said, it was straight up magical. I'm like, all right, well, we've never seen a guy like this. We just haven't. I don't know if we ever will either. It's really interesting, too, when I was interviewing him. He's like, you've got to have some attributes if you want to beat me. You've got to be tall.

You've got to be big. Give me these guys my size. What he's doing, though, it's so he's a once-in-a-lifetime guy because he's setting the ceiling like there's no there's no boundaries for him like he's just like i'll fight nate at 70 i'll 45 sure i'll murk aldo in 13 seconds and i'll come to 55 like we've never seen this kind of creativity and we've also never seen the UFC allow someone to do this either. Yeah, well, he's just such a unique personality. It's undeniable.

But also his style. In a lot of ways, he kind of does a lot of, like, what Wonderboy does, but with less kicks. Like, he throws kicks to the body. He'll throw, like, some front kicks. I mean, you know, like maybe 70% as many kicks. Wonderboy is a little more kick-heavy. But it's that sideways style,

but I think he does it better. Me too. Like there's maybe something about the focus of the shots that he's landing, the precision of them, because Wonder Boy very rarely touches somebody up like that with a punch. He just doesn't have that kind of power. Yeah, you're right.

I think Wonder Boy's better at surprising guys with his kicks and his angles, but Conor sets it up and he's landing combos that are all so precise and this power. He's touching dudes and you can see it on their face. He touched Eddie and Eddie's like, what the f- Well, not only that, he's hitting them in a surprise way and he's not telegraphing it at all. Dan, he's hitting them in a surprise way, and he's not telegraphing it at all. His ability to go from bouncing around to launching that shot is so quick. It's so precise, and it's so focused, and there's no fat in his movements.

It's just pow. Yeah, and they said there's going to be a big announcement afterwards, and obviously his girl's pregnant. It's a personal big announcement for him, but I think he said he said he's gonna take time off and he wants a piece of the pie he wants a piece of wme and what you know what they're doing now which which is hilarious right i love it me too i love it and he's the first fighter ever that can talk like this how old is he he was kind of 26 maybe 27 26 i gotta think 28 i think he's a smart guy too i don't i mean i would hope at least i don't see him fighting deep into his 30s no especially the way he talks because he goes now that i have a kid i know what i bring to the table i won't be set financially for the rest of my life you guys want me to fight again yeah i mean you need to be set for the rest of my life i want to i want a part of this pie.

And his next fight, and it's going to be such a fight, is with WME. It's not with anyone out there. If you think he's fighting Ferguson or Khabib next, you're batshit crazy. That's not happened for a very long time. Maybe. Maybe they're working out. I don't think so. I think the next fight, again, I don't know. This is just me

going off whatever the hell I think, Joe, but I think his next fight would be Nate for the belt at 55. Because if you think Khabib and Tony, they're both deserving. And we're MMA purists. We're balls deep in MMA. We love it. And one of those guys deserves it. As far as numbers and a big pay-per-view, it would have to be Nate.

Do you really think they would do Nate again? 100%. Wow. I don't think Nate or Conor will fight unless it's, if that has to be the matchup. I think Conor will fight someone else. I think Conor might even fight Woodley. I think you'd see a fight with Woodley before you see Khabib or Ferguson. I think Khabib and Ferguson will fight each other before anything else.

Do you know how fucking crazy it would be if he decided to go up and fight Woodley? It's so nuts. Obviously, Woodley has to get through Wonderboy again, but... Does he? It has to. You think so? Well, Dana said that's the immediate rematch. Dana said a lot of shit.

He said Habib was fighting for the title. That's a good point. And I was like, nah. Are you sure you're fighting for the title? Nah. Yeah, he does that all the time. I don't think that means anything. That's a good point.

Yeah. I'm just going based off what your boy said. He was like, that's the next rematch, but... Like, how do rematch but put it on me well he's more of your friend than mine you're real you've worked with him forever i'm really like the guy yeah yeah yeah i like dane i just think you know you have a close relationship so i say your boy but he he does say things and pulls back yeah if if woodley and that's there this is the thing i, though. Not you don't have to worry about. Something to think about. How much power are they going to give Conor?

45, 55, 70 just wraps up all these. Dude, do you know how crazy that would be if he did it, though? I say let him do it. Let him try. The UFC's going, we can't. He's going to take this bitch over. I bet Woodley will say it. Woodley will say, let him try.

Fuck yeah, Woodley will say, let him try. Woodley would love that. You know how big Woodley looks compared to him? Ginormous. It's so bizarre looking at Woodley would love that. You know how big Woodley looks compared to him? Ginormous. It's so bizarre looking at Woodley inside the Octagon. He's the most jacked dude, I think, other than Yoel Romero. Yoel? He's in there.

He's in there. Oh, they're one and two. One and two right now. I think it's interchangeable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It depends what you're into. But Yoel flies through the air. Yoel does backflips at the beginning of every fight. At the beginning of every fight the beginning every fight he goes into the audience or he goes into the cage and he does back handsprings and literally launches himself through the air and lands on his feet it's the Olympics yeah

and it's a solid landing and he's 200 pounds correct sir and he's flying flying he's the freakiest free gas gauge uses Gay Jesus! Michael Bisping! I love you! I love you, Michael! You do that to me! I love you! Someone needs to help him with his marketing, right?

Don't change a word. He lost so much fan support when he said for, what did he say? For the gay Jesus? We thought he said gay Jesus, but he said, don't forget Jesus. But his broken English was so bad, people went bad on him so fast. They did. And then he kept calling Bisping boy. Yeah, I like that.

Well, it's okay because he's a black guy. I like that. He's allowed. If Bisping did that to him, we got some shit on our hands. We got some shit on our hands. Cannot say that to a man of color. No! He does talk like that.

Don't forget Jesus! He's so scary. Poor Weidman. In New York, hometown, needed a win, bad. You get no love in New York and then just a fucking knee from Cuba just to your dome piece. Just flew. Flew through the air. And as he hit him, like he was flying over

him afterwards. But, you know, that was insanely impressive, but you know what was almost as impressive as the way he took Weidman's back. He tripped him. They tied up together. He trips Weidman, throws him to the ground, and then spins around behind him and takes his back. How about the

trip? How about the world-class trip? Oh, yeah. P-Rod Gasser's trip. No, no, no. That's world-class trip? Oh, yeah. P-Wagash's trip. No, no, no. That's world-class level trip. Weidman's an absolute monster. Ridiculous. And he was just, kadoosh! He was throwing him around.

He was showing him the difference between a wrestler from the Olympics, a guy who medaled in every single world tournament he entered. And built like a ninja turtle.

Dude, he's ridiculous. You know, he has like a fused disc in his neck. I would assume. He had a serious injury in his neck just like weidman has but why may that dissect to me why man had surgery he did so yoel has a big scar on the back of his neck you could see it it's like a big slice it's all stitched up just like ving rames from pulp fiction very different but you know what i'm saying though same scar black guy well it's yeah it, black guy. Yeah, I've seen it before on other guys, but spinal surgery is fucking no joke, man. I had Weidman win that fight until then.

He won the first round, but you thought he won the second round when Yoel was throwing him around? Not winning, but I thought as the fight would go on, it would help Weidman. I thought in the second round, Yoel started implementing his wrestling. Correct.

And I thought he was running away with it. So it would be 1-1, right? Yes. Yes. I thought it was 1-1. Yes, 1-1. That's fair. But I thought it was shocking how good his wrestling was in comparison.

And we know that Weidman is- He doesn't show it. Yeah, very rarely. But when he does, dudes go flying. I don't know why he doesn't use it more. Because he's having fun. Having a good time! Dude, for real.

At first when he was talking stuff to Bisping, I'm like, God, that's a terrible fight for Bisping. God, that's terrible. And then it hit me, I'm like, five rounds? Bisping really doesn't initiate in that grappling and he has cardio for days? That's a tough fight to call. At first I was like, Romero's going to fucking destroy Bisping. I'm like Romero's gonna fucking destroy Bisping I'm like not really though if you think about it not really who knows what could happen but Dan Henderson caught Bisping

twice bad in their last title fight at 45 years old or whatever it is he caught him bad and Dan Henderson who is one of the most ruthless power strikers in the game for sure and Bisping survived that. So that's good for Bisping, that he was able to survive that.

You know? You've got to think, Yoel Romero doesn't just have a right hand. He flies. He literally launches himself at you. If he gets a hold of you, the wrestling ability. You go for a ride. Dan Henderson's a silver medalist in the Olympics as well. But it's different.

It's different. Different. Especially it's different. It's different. Different. Yeah. Especially Dan right now. What's Dan, 48? I think he's 46 or 45. He's up there either way. Yeah.

But Romero's basically in his prime as an MMA fighter. Well, also there's the range of motion. Yes. Dan's almost locked up. Some would say stiff. Yeah. Yeah. He's got, but if he hits you, you're fucksville.

But he's like, his range of motion's very limited, whereas Yoel is like a super athlete. He doesn't have any limitations in his range of motion. He's ridiculously flexible. He does like a half split before he fights. He was down there stretching out. This guy's range of motion is insane. Those knees and the flying knees, though, a lot of it, especially with Weidman came from Weidman going for that single leg.

He's like, go for it again and see what happens. Yeah. And where Bisping doesn't entertain the grappling at all. That's true. That's true. And he stays on the outside and he also has that beast of a coach. But right away, I was like, oh, God, that sucks. Because I love Bisping.

I'm like, God, that's a bad fight for him. And I was sitting there, I'm like, well, cardio, five rounds. If he can survive those first two, maybe three, dragging the blade in the water, it's a bad fight for him i was sitting there i'm like well cardio five rounds if he can survive those first two maybe three dragon blade water it's a fun fight definitely watch that bad no no i mean you can't it's hard to do mma math right you do style style matchups though right yeah yeah but i was saying like bisping lost to tim kennedy tim kennedy lost to yoel but tim kennedy was beating yoel like that's another thing that Yoel's Corner did, this fight that was fucked up, man.

They covered him with water. They threw water on him while he was sitting there resting. Between first and second? Uh-huh. They put an ice pack on him, and he poured water on himself. He poured it on his legs. He poured it on his arms.

He poured it all over him. And they wiped him down. I mean, he was trying to cool himself off, probably. Yeah. But you're not allowed to do that. No. And they spent time wiping him down before the round started. So, like, they wiped him down in between the corner, but then the referee stopped it and made them wipe him down more.

So he gets more rest. So he gets more rest. Yeah, look, for sure they're aware when that happened with Tim Kennedy. When Tim Kennedy had him fucked up at the end of that second round, he absolutely and on purpose stayed on that stool longer than he was supposed to. Some would say it was a smart move.

Yes. Obviously it ended up working in his favor. It's smart if you're a cheater. If you're okay with cheating. But it is cheating. It's cheating. You haven't a lot of... 100% it's cheating. 100%. Tim should have won that fight. And the referee should have probably stopped the fight. But I'm sure Big John didn't want the fight to end. Didn't want to cheat everybody out of the fight.

Just wanted the guy to get back up. But then you cheat Tim Kennedy who is the one person you don't want to cheat out of this. And Tim is walking around like yelling while this is all going off. Pissed. Yeah. The whole thing was a mess. It was a mess. That was a clusterfuck of a moment. off pissed yeah the whole thing was a mess it was a mess that was a clusterfuck of a moment but it just shows you this guy has a massive amount of experience in international competition

in wrestling and there's like a lot of shit that goes on in wrestling you know where you're you have to take advantage of whatever you can to win you know and the all these years of high level competition on the international scene he's probably got a bunch of little tricks like that he could do to slow down the pace or give himself a little extra time. And what people go, oh, what's 15, 20 seconds? 15, 20 seconds for a guy like Yo Romero to replenish? Giant. I mean, you're talking night and day difference for a guy like that.

And I think it was also 30 seconds with the Tim Kennedy fight, if I remember. Maybe 23. I feel like it was longer than that. I don't remember. Talking about Stoolgate. Yeah, Stoolgate. But also then there's a psychological issue. Because Kennedy now thinks the fight's over.

Is it not over? Like he doesn't know where he's at. There's nothing worse than that. When you think the fight's over and they're like, No, no, no, back in, man. That's what always kills me about Glory when they have that extra round. We go one more round. Imagine you get through three rounds of kickboxing and then finally you're drinking water.

You got your arms up and referee says, blah, blah, blah. And it's all a draw. Well, think if you're Tyrone Woodley. Think if you're Woodley. Well, how about Bruce Buffer fucking it up where we said it was a decision. What was going on? Because you were like, whoa, everyone chill. You were like, chill. Yeah. Well, here's what was going on. First of all, Bruce fucking it up. What was going on there? Because you were like, whoa, whoa, everyone chill. You were like, chill.

Yeah, well, here's what was going on. First of all, Bruce said it wrong. It was not a majority decision. It was a majority draw. Correct. But they probably wrote it down wrong for him. Look, New York does not do any MMA. They've never done MMA before.

No shit. It's the first event, right? That's why they pulled off Rashad, yeah. Exactly. So they do this thing where they tally up the scorecards they give it to bruce and i guess it said majority decision tyron woodley they read two judges scored a draw one judge scores it for woodley and woodley retains the title but it's supposed to be a majority draw yes that's what the majority of people thought it was a draw so

it's a majority draw so bruce said it wrong, whether they gave it to him wrong. I don't know. Um, real Steve Harvey moment. Yes. And then they, and then Tyron freaked out and then the audience booed. The audience went crazy. And I said, dude,

you still have your title. Just hold on. I was, and they wanted Bruce to say it again. So Bruce says it again. I was going to say it again onto the microphone, but they're like, Bruce insisted he get the mic and he says it again.

So he says it again. And he, you know, cause he wanted to correct the mistake. So he says it again. So he says it again, because he wanted to correct the mistake. So he says it again, and then I have to say the audience is booing. I'm like, is this the exact same score? Yes. It's the exact same score.

It's just the wrong definition. Just read wrong, yeah. That's all. I think it was probably pretty accurate, too. I think it was right. I think maybe with 10 seconds left, I looked at Brian. I went, I bet you anything. It's crazy. And I even tweeted out before this, and I went, I think it's a draw., I look at Brian, I went, I bet you anything. It's crazy.

And I even tweeted out before this, I think it's a draw. Brian goes, no, championship match. I go, I feel like it's a draw. I give that a 10-8, and then I scored the other rounds. I forget how I scored them. I think it's a draw. Some people didn't give Woodley a 10-8 for the fourth round. That's insane.

Because at the end of the round, Wonderboy was on top of him punching him. That's insane. Yeah, but I say, if anything, if he didn't do that, if Wonderboy didn't get out and wasn't on top, it might be a 10-7. Because not only did he hurt him with big punches, then

he almost choked the life out of him. I mean, he had him in a deep guillotine. And people are telling me that wasn't a good guillotine. You are out of your fucking mind. You're insane. Have a guy as strong as Woodley. Let's say his position's a little off.

He's not to the side. Let me just say that for the record. And what round is it? What round was that? Third round. Third round. So you're cardio already. Fourth round.

Correct. Fourth round. You're already exhausted. And you have that 170-pound monster around your neck. And he's not 170. No no he's every bit of what probably 200 probably 200 around there and by the way he's a brown belt he's a brown belt in jujitsu do you think tyron woodley doesn't know how to choke people you're fucking crazy it was a very good choke and i i was amazed me too man one thing i was thinking was like wonder boy has

a skinny ass neck and tiny head yeah smaller head me. And the small head thing is smaller than me. I have a tiny head. That was what Woodley said. Woodley said, well, I knew he had a little head. Did he really? And I was like, oh shit. I didn't even think about his head.

I was thinking about the size of his neck. He has a slender neck. Yeah. Tiny head. Isn't it amazing the human body can take that? Like, how did his head not rip off?

How did his neck not break? That's what I'm saying. Woodley's so strong. Can you imagine if he won by broken neck? I guarantee you, if he had that in the first round, he probably wouldn't be able to finish it. I shouldn't say I guarantee it. Well, yeah, I see what you're saying. Different story.

Yeah, different story. How tough is Wonderboy, though? Ridiculous. And I know Wonderboy. We have the same manager. We've trained together a bunch. Love the guy. I've always, and this is just me, I've always questioned his toughness because he does come from a privileged family like they have this huge

taekwondo academy in south carolina and he has a great home life and his dad's his coach and his brothers are studs taekwondo or just karate uh i'm not sure i think it's just karate is it just karate style yeah you're probably right one of those so but he has this huge school you know i'm saying very successful Yeah, been to dinners with his dad and the whole family. God this guy has everything going for him So when I see that's like, you know, it's the Calabasas kids thing Like you never seen the tough-skinned Calabasas and you do shit in the UFC. It's just that when they're privileged like that So when the going gets rough, I've always kind of questioned Wonder Boy and I've never seen it though

Cuz the Matt Brown fight, you know his last loss and it was back and forth there's a scrap i'm like all right whatever this fight man i was and i was watching with fans i was standing up clapping like what is going on right now man what the fuck you talking about it was crazy fight and it uh there was a lot interesting first of all how fucking hard is tyron woodley hit? Jesus Christ. What in God's name? Dude, he has one of the best straight right hands in the business. And if it lands? Yeah. I can't believe Wonderboy didn't get knocked out. Unbelievable.

Well, I mean, he's a guy who's fought in professional kickboxing. He has a 57-0 combined kickboxing record, amateur and pro. I guarantee he didn't fight anyone in that kickboxing circuit that punches as hard as Tyron Woodley. And not with four-ounce gloves either. No, exactly. That's the other big he can punch faster with those little gloves on and it hurts more when it lands so let

it so let's say Dana does do the rematch they don't do Connor Woodley and they do do the rematch just thinking about it three titles three titles but focus me third but Woodley was a slight underdog and if you listen to Duke Rufus, who was talking about their game plan,

I think he was talking about it in the post-fight press conference, their game plan, and you even mentioned it, you're like, I don't get why Tyrone is against the cage. And I didn't like it either. I'm like, what's he doing? He's getting murked. That was their game plan. Well, do you know he does that a lot?

Yes, he does that a lot. And Wonderboy is a counter-striker, so they wanted to bring him to Woodley. That was their thinking, by him being against the cage and do all that, and then get him to commit to take him down. Right. So they kind of—it surprised Wonderboy a little bit, but in the rematch, I think it favors Wonderboy so much more, because now he knows Woodley's going to fight like that.

He might not fight like that. He might not fight like that, so then he's— and this is my thing here. He might not fight like that, and this is my thing here. I think the ability to change and be more dynamic is in Wonderboy's favor. Sort of. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, in a way, but here's the thing.

Woodley only took him down once in the whole fight and mauled him once he got him to the ground. Which is why Wonderboy didn't tee off. What if Woodley decides to do that every fucking round? I don't know how much Wonderboy can stop Woodley from taking him down. Woodley's so much bigger, so much stronger, and a way better wrestler. If Woodley takes him down like he took him down in the first round, that might have been the strategic error. Because Woodley mauled him in the first round.

By the end of the round, his nose is fucked up, he's got a giant cut, he's leaking blood. And Woodley just held him down and dominated him on the ground. So if he just does that in the round two, I mean, if he was able to do that instead of try to stand and knock him out, he might have been able to stop him. Correct, but the reason why he got that takedown is based off those kicks, and then Wonder Boy stopped kicking, like he wasn't looking for the knockout. Does that make sense? He was so hesitant after that, and I feel like the reason he got that was because of the kick so i think wonderboy can make changes more of changes to win the next fight maybe it's all up and maybe who knows but i'm

saying as far as game plan wise i think it favors wonderboy yeah but here's the thing now that tyron knows like wonderboy's timing and he's able to rock him he he's going to have some serious confidence in launching that right hand. But go ahead and move forward on Wonderboy, see what happens. Yeah, but sometimes it works. I mean, he's been able to take them down. Other people have been able to take them down. And when he gets them down, like the difference in the grappling was pretty fucking evident to me.

Oh, it looked like a white belt versus, you know, just an experienced guy. He's so much stronger, so much better at holding them in place. I was like, man, if this fight goes this way,ley's gonna run away with it that's what i thought i thought me too me too he busted him open bad bad man and then when you're dealing with wonder boy you're dealing with that weird sideways stance and just popping that jab in his face hands down hands down he's a weird guy to spar with the other thing is Wonderboy, he didn't let his hands go at all. At all. That left hand.

He's so good at going southpaw traditionally. He can go back and forth. But it was all kicks for him. Well, I think he was worried after that takedown and getting busted up. Of even opening up. Getting taken down again. But, you know, Tyron's a totally different animal, too. He's a different animal than Johnny Hendricks. Great athlete.

Yeah, and the Johnny Hendricks that Wonderboy faced, let's be honest, he's not the same guy. Not even close. He's just not. No, I don't know. He's not the same guy that knocked out John Fitch. He's not the same guy that knocked out Martin Kampman. He's just not the same guy. No. Just not. No. For whatever reason. Speculate all you want,

internet. Yeah, for whatever reason. I mean, maybe it's motivation, maybe it's personal problems. He changed camps, who knows. He opened up a steak restaurant and then it went out of business. Terrible idea, but maybe he just Terrible. Terrible idea, sir. The worst? If you're a celebrity and you got some cash, maybe the worst idea? Yeah, restaurant's not the way to go.

Hey, I'm tired of being successful. Just look at the numbers. And happy. I'd rather be stressed out and broke. I hate money. Do you have a restaurant I can invest in? I mean, it's a terrible idea. Even if they just put his name on it, he's still associated with that failure. And I'm sure he had to have some form of commitment to it. I'm sure he got a sign while people were eating fucking T-bones for 30% off or something like that. Not Reddit.

The Yahoo and Yelp reviews, rather. They were terrible. Were they bad? They were the worst. It was like one star. We can't be associated with that, man. We can't. If you want, man. You can't. If you want to open up a restaurant and you're a celebrity, good luck.

It should be a really small place. Or be a silent investor. Don't be the face of it. There's a bunch of places like that in LA. 100%. Yeah, a gang of them. Like our boy Travis Barker, he owns Crossroads. You don't see him marking stuff like that.

our boy Travis Barker, he owns Crossroads. You don't see him marking stuff like that, but it's like, and obviously not your cup of tea, but it's an all-vegan restaurant. I heard it's good, though. It's like the number one place

in LA as far as vegan goes. I heard it's really good. Yeah, yeah. But you don't see him blasting out there like his face on the front of the restaurant. Right.

Fucking playing the drums while they're serving up spring rolls. Oh, they were calling it the Big Rig Steakhouse. God damn it. Yeah. Well, that's some Texas shit. Yeah, it's Texas shit. It might work in Texas, right? Big Rig Steakhouse. God damn it. Well, that's some Texas shit. Yeah, it's Texas shit.

It might work in Texas, right? Big Rig Steakhouse. Well, hey, man. I might get a T-bone from Big Rig. What if it was awesome? It doesn't sound like it, though, is it? It's insane. No, it doesn't.

Has that ever worked? Well, I guess, you know, Elway did it. John Elway did it. Elway Steakhouse in Denver kills it. Really? That's a fine steak, though. Ted has them. Who's Ted?

Ted Turner. Oh, he's got those Ted's. Yeah, true. got those teds yeah true bison meat and shit yeah it's a tough gig man tough rocky did in the last one but it's also for an athlete especially a fighter where your mind and you first of all you have this event that happens and i don't have to tell you this but for everybody listening it happens it takes months before the event you're thinking about this event. You're preparing for the event. And then the event is one night. Anything that can fuck your head up along the way should be avoided.

Yeah. You shouldn't be thinking about getting mass discounts on T-bones and filet. You should be really worried about Wonder Boy. Anything. Anything that can fuck you up. There's so many different things that can creep into your mind. Well, I mean, great transition. Look at Misha Tate. Yeah. up you know there's so many different things that can creep into your mind well look and i mean great transition to look at misha tate yeah and i told and i'm not taking anything away from pen

or pennington i thought she looked brilliant she did her job i thought there was a real bad matchup for misha honestly i think pennington's super underrated she's underrated for sure i also think that version of misha i i and i i just said that's misha doesn't look into it or something else is going on. She's having an off night. It didn't look like the normal Misha we're used to seeing. And for Misha, for her to say, yeah, I'm done. I couldn't hear it because, again, I was watching with a live crowd.

But she retired, correct? Yeah, she retired. What'd she say? She was just like, I'm out? Yeah, she says, I just want to say I'm done. I'm done. And I said, was this based entirely on your performance? Is it something you planned?

And she said, no, it was based on my performance. And then she said that I've taken a lot of punishment. That's fair, man. That's fair. For sure. And she's also, to me, she's someone you want your daughters to look up to. She's such a great face for women's MMA. Just because, obviously, she's a beautiful young lady.

Probably the best looking one in the UFC. But she also, she speaks very well. She has the skills. You're talking about a lady who if you would have told her she'd been champ in the UFC, you know, after you've seen her fights with Rhonda and these other fights, she, I'm sure she'd be like, you're full of shit. And she just came back from this adversity. Like when she beat Holly, amazing, amazing man. And for her now, there's so much more for her to do.

This is why I'm proud of her and her getting out when she did, because I don't know if you've heard her break down fights as a female analyst. She is so damn good. It's ridiculous. She's very smart. She's very smart. She's very good at breaking down the fights as far as not like Joe Rogan style, uh, Brian Stan style, Don McCrew style.

She's good as a, as a analyst when she's up there with like, uh, Stan and Bisping andrew style. She's good as an analyst. When she's up there with Stan and Bisping and those guys. Have you had her on your show? We have not had her on our show. I listened to her on your show, and I thought she was brilliant. She's got her own show now, too. She has her own podcast? Yeah.

Well, she's already doing it the right way. Yeah. But I think for her, man, sky's the limit. I really do. I think you're right. I think you're right. And I think if she really, I mean, everybody always says that if you have one foot out the door, you should just walk, just go.

There you go here. And that's why he sat me down here. Well, you know, you're like, excuse me, sir, you're telling dick jokes and trying to fight right now.

Well, it's one thing watching somebody who you don't love, who's just like, well, you know, or even you do love, you don't have that close of a relationship with, but as a friend,

you know, you have a close friendship with someone. You see the path. I mean, it's one of those things, man. You see it time and time again. I can name you 100 guys that I know that are kind of half in the game. And they still do it. And every now and then they get knocked out. Or they'll fight some Yair Rodriguez type motherfucker.

Some upcoming phenom and get lit up. And all in. Yeah, those all in guys those all-in guys are fucking scary yeah and you know for me it's the best thing that ever happened to me in my life so well i think it's probably going to be the best thing for misha too and one of the things that i said to misha was like you know you've already achieved the highest achievement ever in mma you were a world champion in the ufc so like you know that no one could ever take that from her she won it in spectacular fashion and it was an amazing accomplishment.

That's a giant thing to have on your resume, former world champion. And she's at the perfect time, just talking about from business side of things, is the UFC's contract with Fox is coming up. So what they're going to do, from my understanding, is it's going to be on multiple networks. So it's going to be like the NFL or NBA or whatever, whatever these other sports leagues where they're not just tied to fox which opens up the door for espn cba all these other networks so that opens up the door for all these other shows for her so if i if i'm uh misha tate i don't sign with fox right now granted she's the best female analyst in the game to me i think she waits till that deal goes and then

fields all the offers. She has the time to do it. She might or UFC might offer some sort of an in-house gig. Who knows? I could see that happening too. I'm saying don't do that. Don't do that for her. Don't do that. Let them play the negotiating game and she has so many talents and no one's coming along like her who speaks or looks like

her. Yeah, isn't that happening with you guys? Isn't there a network issue? Yes, there is a network issue. Some sort of an issue with you guys being on Fox? Yeah. Well, for us, it's just Brian goes, don't talk about that on Rogan. And before, I'm like, we got to talk about it. Yeah.

And you know me, I'm an open book, man. I'm like, do what? You don't have to talk about it if you don't want to. No, I know. We always talk about it. You don't have to talk about it if you don't want to. No, I know. We always talk about it.

For me, it's just, you know, I'm always in the understanding of we don't need anybody. And you've always said that. And I think the Fire and the Kid fan base and what we've achieved has literally nothing to do with Fox. You know, they gave us a studio, and I'm grateful for that stuff, but we would be here with or without them. You know? A studio is not that big a deal. You rent office space. A lot of guys, we all know people that do it. Tom and Christina do it.

Joey Diaz does it. I do it. A lot of people do it. They just rent space. Correct. It's not hard to do. No. And, you know, our biggest issue would be finding a good producer to help us like a young Jamie.

All you would have to do is put out the ad throw the bat signal up online I'm sure this is the best signal. Yeah Holla We're looking for one. Yeah, I mean if you find someone who knows how to handle the internet side of things I'm sure Jamie can help them. Yeah, what's going on today? That's really interesting in podcasting We've kind of talked about this before, but is that the real network is the organic network between friends. Correct.

It's between all of us, between Joey and Bill Burr and Burt Kreischer and Tom Segura. We're all just a bunch of friends, and we talk about each other, and we have each other on, and everybody finds out about each other from each other, and we retweet each other

and re-Instagram each other and support each other, and that's like a real network where there's no like deals going on there's no paper signed it's and then everybody's sort of benefiting from it equally everybody gets something out of it you know that's a real network this other thing is a weird business where non-creative people capitalize on the work of creative people and they provide you with what a fucking a series of walls yeah and an internet connection oh thank you you definitely should get half the money you out of your fucking mind yeah that's exactly what i said i it's just a different age now that that we're going into and um it's we're in a good spot that's a good

thing we're in a good spot and uh yeah we have offers from all these other networks and stuff like that. Well, that's all good. The most important thing is just you guys love what you do and the show's fun. That's the biggest thing. And then people are going to still enjoy it. So almost like think about it as little as you can, I guess. For me, I see it as an opportunity. Like when we were discussing it today, I was excited.

I'm like, oh, yes Yeah, I get our Joe Rogan on now. Yeah, you got to do that for sure A lot of guys have done that, you know, my friend Dave Rubin who was on last week He had a similar situation. He was with one network. He left that he went with another network And he was like what the fuck am I doing? And I told him I'm like to just keep just be free Just get out there Well, I think what people don't realize is like all the guests the marketing the merchandise like i have i've hired our own booker we've had our own public like it's all in-house it's all whatever i want to do with it like we literally just show up to the studio yeah i can't imagine how they thought they'd get 50 of that it seems so crazy it's

insane it's just maybe they just don't know how much money it is or they don't i was literally laughing like physically laughing. Like, oh, you have. How'd you guys resolve it? How'd you end it? Now it's off to the agents. Oh boy. Call an agent like, there you go, man.

First of all, they should have never brought you in in the first place at all. All that stuff is supposed to be done with agents. They're not supposed to bring you in and talk financials with you with no representation. Correct. However, I'm very, and if to almost a fault i'm very uh in on as far as the business side things go with fighting the kid like i want to be involved now now when it goes to negotiating all right you guys do that yeah you if you want to change the logo from a maroon to an orange you better fucking go over it with me if you do something without me knowing then then we

have issues do they think they can do that kind of shit though do you think that they would start doing that if they they did it once and i was like what what did they do they uh they changed something it was some logo they tweeted something out that i didn't approve and you know you can call me a control freak but so this is like the network did that fox did that yeah yeah well they have certain people run the the the accounts you know so they just decided that they were gonna do that i'm like oh what are you doing man you know what i'm saying so well that's you're in a weird accounts, you know? So they just decided that they were going to do that? I'm like, oh, what are you doing, man? You know what I'm saying? Well, you're in a weird gray area.

You know, you have your own show. You have a very limited amount of people that are in charge of that show. But all these other people that are sort of used to, like, if they have a show, they get a say. I mean, I remember when they were telling you not to swear. Yeah. Oh, no, they sent us for a while. I told you guys to get free. Yeah, you've been saying that forever.

You can't do it. No swearing. What? I know. Fuck it. It makes the audience like almost you think they're stupid or they can't handle the swear words. People are getting upset.

It takes away everything that's great about the internet. What's great about the internet is you could be yourself. You could be yourself, but also what they don't realize, and again, it's just an old school way of thinking. They don't realize how big podcasting is getting because whether I'm at Fox, I'm in Joe Rogan's bathroom doing the podcast, the listeners just want the audio. They just want the show. You can do the show. I got a little microphone that I hook up to this fucking thing to my phone. That's what Bill Burr does.

Dude, it's amazing. He just goes off his iPhone like a maniac. It's easy. And it still works. Marc Maron does that inon does that garage for god's sakes that's a president in his garage yeah well he's actually got a pretty sweet setup no he really does but you get the point yeah i'm gonna try to find this shit in here i'm gonna show you what this thing is um yeah it's just it's just a different uh kind of day and age of media and we're in a good spot man so i'm happy yeah i just don't think that this i'll find it later but anyway it's a microphone talking about stits in here and has a built-in

little tripod on it so i think it's called an apogee or something like that here you ever used the zoom mic yeah those are good yeah brian and i started a zoom mic in his garage yeah all those these it's just you don't need much you don't need much i mean we're trying obviously we're trying to go the freaking jre experience and then jamie told me how much that goddamn mothership board is over there yeah you know what we'll probably i'll probably see if i can get that at goodwill or something like that sweat this this little thing right here sweat this see this little jamie this little microphone i take this little microphone i screw it into here this little baby here is a little fucking tripod that it sits on it all comes in this little jammie? This little microphone. I take this little microphone. I screw it into here. This little baby here is a little fucking tripod that it sits on.

It all comes in this little case. I pop that sucker down. You can set it up in a hotel room. Damn, son. That's what you did on the plane when you were with Dana and Tony? No, on the plane with Dana and Tony, I didn't even have this yet. Damn, that thing's dope. Dude, it's the shit.

Wow. You tighten it down. What's it called? It's called an Apogee or something like that. I set that up, and it's a real live condenser microphone. And it picks up all the voices clear? It does it all through your phone. That's really dope.

It's incredible. That's really cool. This is all you need. Like, you don't need all this other shit. We do all this other shit because even way, way, way back in the day, I was like, why wouldn't we have a visual element of it? Why wouldn't we have, like, we were doing the streaming version of it even actually before we were doing anything else. Visual is big, though.

On our YouTube, we need the visual aspect of it for sure. Like, you can't downgrade now. But also for us, it's just, yeah, you just want to continually get better. Keep working, baby. I can't believe they didn't fire us i've said some outlandish shit on that show i can't believe fox and like listen they don't we just can't have it well i don't think they pay attention yeah they know the numbers they know the numbers that's one thing they do know because you're on their network so they're like jesus yeah you know

there's not another thing that they have that gets to kind of download you guys. There was a time there when I, especially right when I retired, and I was like, you know, I was angry. I was angry at certain things, man. I'd lash out on the mic and stuff like that, especially in their, they're obviously in cahoots with the UFC, so how they didn't fire me, I have no idea.

Well, I think the worst thing could be that they did fire you. It's actually smart that they didn't because you know what the Streisand effect is? Yeah, like when UFC now banned me and I went howling like a little owl to everybody. Or, you know, there's a bunch of examples of things like that that have happened where someone gets bigger.

Because like Milo Yiannopoulos, you know who he is? Yeah, he got banned from Twitter, right? He got banned from Twitter because he was making fun of Ghostbusters. He became bigger than ever. He became like this cultural alt-right icon because of that. It's publicity you can't pay for.

Look at Ariel Helwani. Bad example, Ariel Helwani. Remember when the UFC banned him, kicked him out, and they went on all those networks? Yeah. UFC was like, my bad, my bad. You're back in. Yeah, for a little while. Now he's out again.

Is he out again? Yeah. Why is he out again? Because of the Brock Lesnar thing? Remember when... Is he out again? I thought he was in New York. I don't think so.

I saw him. Was he there in the arena? Did he have press credentials? I don was in New York. I don't think so. I saw him. Was he there in the arena? Did he have press credentials? I don't know about me. I saw him walking around like... Oh, he was fired from Fox. That's what he was fired from. Oh, yeah, he was fired from Fox.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For that, though. But not fired from his show and doing the UFC media. So he was banned from being in the media for a little while, and then they let him back in. Is that how it works? Yeah, but the thing is, in Dana's defense and the UFC's defense, is the NFL, you know, certain leagues do that.

They don't allow certain people in. So it's not as much as North Korea as we thought. There are leagues who ban guys from coming to the events. Well, I don't know what the fuck the NFL does, so it's not even worth me talking about it. How about Habib Nurmagomedov? What a fucking scary monster that guy is. But here's the thing. He did get clipped, though, didn't he?

He got clipped. Michael Johnson clipped him. And I'm watching that, and I was like, what would Conor do to this kid? Right? Because before, I'm like, Conor would get murked by Habib. And I saw him like, well, if Johnson lands that,

you bet your sweet-ass Conor's going to land that. That magical left hand. I'm done questioning what Conor's capable of. Because I was like, Eddie's a tough matchup. I think he's going to win this one. I do. God damn, I'm scared for this fight. I kind of want to see him fight Woodley.

I'd love to see him fight Brock Lesnar. I want to see him take six months off. I want to see him take six months off and bulk up. You know what's crazy? Just put on a little bit of meat. It's not that outlandish to see that fight. Oh, no, it's not. That's very possible.

Oh, no, it's not. That's very possible. Oh, no, it's not. It's totally possible. The hiccup in that is the UFC's like, do we just let him get all the belts and all the control? Like, where do we stop it before he's running this belt? He'd have to give up one of his belts to take on another one. He needs to give up 45. Give up 45. He has 45.

He's never going to fight again. He might. That cut down's tough. What a matchup. But the cut's different now because you're allowed to begin your rehydration much earlier. You can weigh in at 8 o'clock in the morning, 8 to 10 in the morning. So by the time the ceremonial weigh-in rolls around, it was in New York City at 6 p.m., he was full. I mean, he looked great.

He didn't look dehydrated at all. At 55. But even at 55, he used to look dehydrated, right? Not too bad. 45, he like near the door of death and also that's right we've never really seen him at 55 in the ufc we haven't seen him in cage or some other organization so 45 it just i don't see how he even makes it even his camps like dude it's way too tough on him just let that belt go though now you did your thing let it go because you're keeping that division hostage. You got Pettis, Max Holloway coming up. It's funny. I think it's hilarious, too.

It's funny because it's not my life, though. But if I was Aldo, I'd be fucking freaking out. Aldo, who's the champ forever, wants that rematch so bad. It ain't happening. Is he really retiring? No, he retired and then thought he was going to go do something else. And he thought the UFC was like, oh, okay, do your thing. And then he realized how tough those contracts is and came back.'s like well looks like i have to fight let's do it

you know like who's he gonna fight i don't know the winner of pettis and holloway holloway's been knocking on the fucking door for a long time man nine straight how he does that's ridiculous he just needs a bigger name he just he just he needs to get more famous that's the day and age we're in he just has to get famous or get on the mic talk some shit i'm really interested to see him versus pettis because pettis i think it's real diminished by that cut i agree that's a hard cut for him to get on 45 and i'm i love pettis man i'm a huge pettis fan but he hasn't looked the same as of late max holloway is a slick motherfucker too you realize it realize it now. After you watch Frankie Edgar and Jeremy Stevens fight, you realize how slick Holloway is. Holloway was never in trouble in that fight.

Never. And then also, think about his last loss was Conor McGregor. You didn't think Conor had a jacked up knee, but it went to decision. The only decision Conor's had in the UFC. And think how much better Max Holloway is now. Yep. If he wins this one, dear God, if someone's listening, give that kid a title shot. Yeah.

What's he have to do? I know. What do you do with Tony and Khabib, though? You're talking about two crazy win streaks, too. Like, how do you even just make them fight? Yes. That's what I think. You make them fight. You make them fight. But let's say you have to pick one of them. If Conor's like,

all right, I'll fight at 55 in three months. Who the fuck wants some? Well, right now, before that fight, Tony Ferguson was the number one contender. Rightly so. Just beat Rafael Dos Anjos, beat a shitload of guys. Because he's so active, you're saying? He beat Edson Barboza. He was the number one contender,

according to whatever the rankings are, which I don't think are accurate all the time. Those are a toss-up. Some of them kind of suck. Yeah. But the second position right now, if he's still number one, is clearly Habib. Habib was number one, but Habib's been way more inactive than Tony.

But the way Habib mauled Michael Johnson, I think he makes his case. They both have a case. They both have a case. One's undefeated. One's on a nine-fight win streak. And then Tony, you know, I thought he dismantled RDA. I thought he looked great. Amazing.

Habib absolutely ragdolled Dos Anjos 2 and then fucking destroyed Johnson. It was horrible watching him beat up Johnson. You know, because he's so good at tying up that one arm. He ties up the one arm and then fucking smashes you with the other one. He had him in mount and his arm was pinned. He's got one arm to try to protect him and he's getting just thumped in the head It's gonna hold that chicken we other than snap that bitch off. Yeah, it's not good I thought he was too, but they please tap. Please tap. Please tap. It was like braveheart. Just come on, man

Say it deep it was so deep too. I was thinking nog when noggin Frank Mir fall Oh, that's what I was thinking. I was like this is gonna snap But like like same with hands over there you fuse the tap I get're brazilian jiu-jitsu to the day you die michael johnson let's go ahead and tap those sir yeah that's not you i'm glad he tapped me too i was literally squeezing my hands together when i was doing the commentary i'm like come on tap come on tap just what now thinking he's just when he got him down and then immediately slid right into mounted guillotine i was like jesus christ his grappling is ridiculous so good his grappling so good it's confusing i don't yeah so those two fighting is the fight that's the fight

connor and habib are the fight that's the that's not happening brother i think habib needs to get the title uh to get a title shot at least that's what i think i think you should i think he deserves it he's the only undefeated challenger he's a monster he's mauled everybody in front of him he hasn't had a single goddamn close fight he's had one moment one moment where he gets dinged but you're talking you're speaking logically yes you're thinking guys that deserve it well we're in we're in entertainment sir just the same way connor leapfrogged everyone got the title shot listen to what i'm saying to you right now. Really? The UFC is about to go to Russia.

Do you know that? Yeah, they want to get in there. I don't know if they're going to do it. Yeah, yeah. For sure. UFC in Russia. Conor McGregor versus Khabib Nurmagomedov. That's what I think is coming. Giant.

Giant. There's a lot of Russians. Giant. Khabib got on the mic right and was like you know how much bigger fucking russia is than ireland yeah like you but he's not the same star well here's the deal though russia's bigger than ireland but the united states is bigger than ireland too and when fucking connor is fighting in new york city which is an hour and a half from eddie alvarez's house, they're booing Eddie Alvarez as he's walking to the cage.

It doesn't matter. Russia, China, Korea, Ireland. Conor's the biggest star by far. I don't know about that. When you go to Russia, I wonder if he gets booed in Russia. Don't you think if Khabib was that big of a star in Russia, maybe it's sanctioning stuff? And they are going there. If you check my Instagram page, every time a fucking photo gets up I know hashtag time I agree time I agree king

no he champ he deserves it but there's a reason why he hasn't been the headliner of a pay-per-view maybe in the states here maybe yeah maybe but he is a fucking monster and he is a hero to the Russian MMA fans correct this guy from Dagestan has been mauling everybody They put in front of them and people think and rightly so that he's unjustly keeping being kept rather from a title shot We can't say he's been kept from a touch. Oh, he's been injured for a long. That's true, too Who's keeping him from getting injured the blame on aka? That's not Connors. That's true, but they did promise him this fight This was something that they said no no, Habib gets the next shot at the title. This was something that was publicly stated, which made sense at the time because Habib

was 23-0. He's going to fight in Madison Square Garden for the title. That's what they were saying. Now you're talking about the Conor effect. Habib versus Eddie Alvarez. I can't have that. That doesn't sell tickets. Exactly.

Then Conor went, no, I want to fight that one. Oh, Habib, we'll keep you on the card. Why don't you fight on the undercard, though? Imagine how Habib feels when he hears that shit. Man, he gets that phone call. He thinks, this is it, finally. I get the title. I bet he went in his backyard and beat the shit out of that Kodiak bear. He's got a bear in his backyard.

You ever seen that video? He was a kid. It's awesome. Yeah, he's a kid wrestling a bear. So much tougher than anyone I know. He's so goddamn tough. He's ridiculous. His grappling's ridiculous. I'm really interested in seeing whether or not he can get past that left hand. And if you are correct, and that's the fight in Russia, the amount of money they're going to have to pay Conor to fight him in Russia

when Conor's still the draw, you're talking about a different ball game. Show me the money! It's going to be interesting, though. What other Russian badasses Are there that fight In the UFC Did you see that Korshkov just got

Knocked the fuck out In Bellator Yes Which was crazy By Lima Dude Lima's a bad motherfucker Yeah

Korshkov's a monster Speaking of Russians In that area Not to flip the script here But this weekend It's Andre Ward Versus Freaking

Kovalev Kovalev. Kovalev. Yeah, that's this weekend. Best boxing matchup in a long time. That's a big fight. No one's talking about it either. It drives me nuts. I know.

I've been watching all the countdowns and shit. I can't get enough of it. I know. I watched that last countdown thing they did, too. It was on after the Victor Ortiz fight. Yeah, Ortiz looked like shit. Well, the dude he fought was on super survival mode. He was terrified. Yeah, he didn't throw any punches. Nothing. They said through fought was on super survival mode. He was terrified.

Yeah, he didn't throw any punches. Nothing. And they said through the whole fight, he threw 100 and something punches. He was so scared. And then Ortiz would touch him and he'd pretend to fall down because he's waiting for the knockout. Well, he also was grabbing his head, saying he got hit in the back of the head a couple of times. It was a terrible fight. It wasn't good.

But you're right. Right after that was Andre Ward versus Kovalev. Like the countdown, kind of their background in Andre Ward. To me, he's just a bigger version of Floyd Mayweather. Like his defense is insane, but he has knockout power. He hasn't lost since he's 13. I give him the advantage. Some people think Kovalev's going to win.

I don't know what the betting odds are. I was stunned by the way Kovalev handled Hopkins. And I know Bernard's old. He's 100 years old. He's 1,000. He looks like a turtle. He looks old. He's fighting years old. He's 1,000. He looks like a turtle. He looks old. He's fighting again.

December 10th or 12th or something like that. I'm not going to that. I'm not going to that, sir. Please stop fighting. I'm not going to go either. I'm going to be in, that's the Toronto UFC that weekend. It's also the weekend of glory. That's Badr Hari versus Rico Verhoeven.

Was that the best weekend ever besides that Hopkins fight? It's a good fucking card, too. Dude, that Toronto card is stacked now. It is now. It is now. Because you got Kennedy, Rashad, Cowboy, Matt Brown. Yeah, Cowboy versus Matt Brown is better than Cowboy versus Gastelum. 100. That fight did nothing for me.

Well, Gastelum's done now, man. He's in a bad, bad, bad place. Dana says he has to fight at 85 now. He's missed. He said that before and made him fight at 85. Maybe he beat Nate Marquardt at 85. Correct, sir. Wasn't that 85 that he fought Marquardt? No, beat Nate Marquardt at 85. Correct, sir. Wasn't that 85 that he fought Marquardt?

No, he fought Marquardt at 70. Was it? Yeah. It was one of those fights that he beat somebody because he got sent up to 85 and then he proved that he could make the weight. And he's blaming George Lockhart now. The only person you can blame is yourself. Like, you know, man, especially being the experience is you know.

And it's so frustrating. That shows you what kind of card the UFC 205 was. I didn't even blink. I didn't bat an eye to that. All right, what's next? Look at this fucking card. I know. Tim K. Rashad, that sucks.

Oh, my God, look at this card. Yeah. Well, now Toronto's just stacked. Gastelum is a really elite fighter. He's a very tough guy. He beat a lot of tough guys. I'm a big fan of that kid. I think he's awesome, but he needs to lose some fucking body fat, period.

You're not a heavyweight. You're not Cain Velasquez. He can't walk around with that much body fat. He posts on Instagram a week before or two weeks before a fight, like, real Mexican dinner. It's like these fucking burritos, enchiladas. We cannot have that, sir. He can't do that. He's an elite professional athlete who absolutely could still, to this day, win

the world title. He has the skill, for sure. He has the skill. And he's fought the guys. He beat Woodley, yeah? Did he beat Woodley? Did Kelvin Gastelum beat Woodley? Woodley beat him.

It went to decision, right? Woodley beat him in decision. In decision. Where he didn't fucking make weight. There you go. Decision. That was a decision where he didn't fucking make weight. And Woodley, being the great guy that he is,

didn't take the percentage. The 30%? Yeah, 20 I think it is. When your opponent doesn't make weight. 30. Is it 30? 30. Okay. I thought it was 20. Woodley, being the great guy that he is, said I don't want that money. And he beat him by decision. So Woodley got the win bonus too. But I don't know who Calvin

has fought at 85 in the last few years, but he's been forced at one point in time to go up to 85. He just needs to fucking lose body fat. Just lose it and keep it off. Dude, and any time a fighter doesn't make weight, Mike Dolce jumps out like Chris Hansen from To Catch a Predator. Excuse me, want to take a seat?

You want to sit down? And he cannot wait to tweet out, ah, man, it's frustrating when guys miss weight. Yeah, he does. Like, he is just super thirsty, isn't he? He's super thirsty. Like, Chris Hansen on Catch a Predator just fucking can't wait to tweet about it. Well, Dolce's got a whole staff. He's got a staff of people.

He's expensive, though. Yeah, he's got a, well, he is expensive. Yeah, for a reason. For a good reason. He's got an office building. Yeah, he's got an office building. He's working for him. Well, he's an employee of the UFC, too.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think he has, like, nine employees or something crazy. Just looking up YouTube and how to fucking lose weight and shit. Yeah. That motherfucker comes out of the curtains, though. A lot of people disagree with him, though. A lot of people disagree with some of his methods.

Yeah, their name's BJ Penn. Yeah, well, he was just upset that, well, he was upset for a bunch of reasons. He made the weight, though. But he was upset that Dolce charged him so much. Said he really didn't do much. I don't know the whole story. I don't know the whole story either. I'm not taking sides there.

But I will tell you this, BJ Penn's a goddamn legend, so I'm siding with him usually. He's from Hawaii. Yeah. I don't know what the fuck happened. Me neither. You'd have to be there. Me too. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck happened You'd have to be there But the point is like If you have someone who is monitoring Every aspect of your weight cut

Like your hydration levels What kind of fluids you're drinking What kind of foods you're eating And it doesn't work out If you did what that guy said And the weight didn't come off Somebody fucked up Who fucked up? I don't know

But let me ask you this Joe Let's say it's not UFC 205. He missed weight by 10 pounds though. Which is ridiculous. But let's say it's not UFC 205 where it's a card, not a stack. Let's say it's a main event in Toronto with DC and Rumble, which before that card was pure shit besides that fight. Now it's an amazing card.

You got Max Holloway, Anthony Pettis, blah, blah, blah. that fight now it's amazing card you got max halloway anthony pettis blah blah would it be crazy for the new ufc suits to hire nutritionists and they for those maybe just the main card they designate you a guy to help you lose weight because it's your product it's not a bad idea however i think like maybe mike dolce it works with everyone and he has a team maybe it's not mike dolce but he's writing the plan this year, and this person is assigned to you, and they're following up with you. Because who does it hurt when they don't make weight? It hurts the fighter, and then it hurts the UFC, too.

I think an even better strategy is seek to eliminate weight cuts. Seek to cut it out of sport. It's unnecessary. It's dangerous. It puts guys at risk health-wise when they don't have to be at risk health-wise. I think the only thing that's holding it back are championship belts and more options of weight classes. I think if they could figure out what weight guys are, where they compete at optimally, and then the same way you do USADA or USADA testing,

you do hydration testing. But how many weight classes? You'd have a jigillion weight classes. Yep. You have more weight classes. But then you have boxing. No, no, no. And that's what's the problem with boxing. It's not a problem with boxing, though.

Look at Andre Ward and Kovalev. They're going to fight. Well, you have less organizations. It's not like you have five different world title organizations and plus weight classes. You would just have plus weight classes. I think you would have more champions. You'd have more opportunity for championship titles. I like that because you have more stars.

You also have more opportunity for title bouts between guys where one guy decides to go up, one guy decides to go down. But instead of them doing it by dehydrating themselves 24 hours out, you make a contract to fight at a certain weight because that's what weight you are in a healthy way. Which maximizes their skills and performance. Yes. And it doesn't put them at the dangers that you have from being dehydrated 24 hours out.

I think if anybody can do this, the UFC- Well, look. How many weight classes do you have where- That's a good question. You know what I'm saying? Can you have 20 belts? Well, I think boxing has that many. And it's a real problem.

Name 10 stars in boxing. But I don real problem. Name 10 stars in boxing. But I don't care. Name 10 stars in the UFC. You want me to? Yeah. Okay. 10 champions. Well, 10 champions.

I can name champions and former champions easily. Don't you think you could name 10 champion boxers, though? Manny Pacquiao. Be tough. Tim Bradley. If you want to start going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Terrence Pacquiao. Be tough. Tim Bradley. If you want to start going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Terrence Crawford.

But UFC has more stars than that. Lomachenko. You know, Vasily Lomachenko. Lomachenko has 7,000 followers. Gennady Golovkin. Floyd Mayweather. You know, you can keep going. You can name a bunch of champions in boxing.

But a lot of those guys are on the same weight, yeah? That's true. That's true. But, you know, you go up in heavyweight. You got fucking Klitschko Wilder I got Channing Briggs Next week

You did it son Let's go champ What's up champ Let's go champ That's amazing He's fighting for a world title He's supposed to be here today But he had to move it to

Yeah he's fighting for a world title Brilliant Interesting That's gonna be fun Yeah There's a lot of heavyweight talent now Anthony Joshua He's a bad motherfucker

Fuck yeah That guy in Freaking New Zealand that everyone talks about. What is Tyson Fury doing? He's retired and clinically, he's suicidal and needs some help. Mentally, he's just not there. Whoa. So he's out.

He's crazy, man. That dude's crazy. I think, yeah, unique characters like that. But I like the idea, Joe, but the problem is it's tough enough for the average fan to keep up now with the stars. I think that's the least of our concerns. The most important thing is to put on great fights. Exactly. That's the most important thing.

So hire, how much money? Four billion. The dehydration's dangerous and unnecessary. No one's died. They have in Brazil. I think if they figure it out, it can come close to the UFC. No one's died. They have in Brazil. I think if they figured out- It can come close to the UFC. But has anyone died?

Do you know that Dos Anjos passed out for three fucking minutes before his fight with Eddie Alvarez, where he was unconscious and unresponsive? But did you die? He was on the door, bro. But did you die? Nobody's died. That's what I'm saying. I think people have been diminished considerably.

And I think their performance their performance suffers so it makes a shittier product if you want to look at it from a business plus if the UFC has got look you could say hey steroids are part of the game are they? well not anymore now they're fucking knocking on your door at 6 o'clock in the morning

making you pee in a cup if they decided to do that at 6 o'clock in the morning they'd try to test people's hydration levels at 6 o'clock in the morning every day find out what your's hydration levels at 6 o'clock in the morning every day. And when it would find out what your weight is, okay, this is what your body fat is. This is what your weight is. This is the lowest you can get. You can get, you know, they'll test you out when you're fully hydrated.

And when your body fat is, you know, wherever the fuck you are right now, they'll say, hey, okay, right now you're 178 pounds. Listen, the lowest you can fight is 172. That's it. Bro, you're going to have 1,000 weight classes, and certain guys won't fight each other. I don't know about that. I think some guys could gain a little weight. That's no big deal.

I don't mind the idea. I think you're right. You're going to get great performances. Way better performances. I think the weight class thing can be worked out. I think the easier thing to do is, I agree, they obviously need to do something, but I think right now the easiest thing to do for them

is to use whoever they want. It doesn't have to be Mike Dolce, but a number of them and assign those to the main card guys to make sure they're coming on weight. Yeah, but what about the guys in the undercard? Fuck them? That sounds crazy, too. Does it? Because that's what they did with Reebok. Does it sound that crazy to say fuck them?

Yes, it does. But that's the nature of the beast. But I think that's crazy, too. But that's what they're doing. I just following the orders i understand that but i'm saying if if i had the master key the first thing i would do is say come up with a strategy to stop weight cutting we're going to come up with a new plan and whether that new plan means abandoning world titles and making yes yes you introduce someone as a world champion, whoever the fuck they are,

they get to bring their world title to the fight, but whenever their next title defense is or whatever the fuck it is, all this name stuff, welter, light, feather, first of all, it's goofy because it's not the right weight anyway. Welterweight is not 170.

It's 147. That's what Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns fought at. They called it fucking Welterweight is not 170. It's 147. That's what Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns fought. They called it fucking welterweight. To start the UFC and just to say, well, it's welterweight. And then Pride fucked it up even more. Because they had it. It was different. Like, their middle weight was 203. Correct.

And then light heavyweight isn't 205. It's not 205. It's 175. Everybody knows that. Heavyweight's 201 plus. Yeah, we grew up in boxing and the weight classes were clearly defined. Why the fuck does the UFC have a 265 pound weight limit too? Why are you making Brock Lesnar cut weight or whoever the fuck a big giant dude is? Like Shane, why would you make Shane cut weight? If he wants to weigh 300 pounds, let that fucking big vanilla gorilla weigh 300 pounds.

Who cares? I want to see it. Dude, he has a matchup in Ryzen. I just saw it someone said and i haven't seen dude i've never heard of i've never heard of him i guess he's just some fucking middle eastern monster oh no he's yeah olympic level wrestler and just knocks dudes out oh my god yeah i don't i i need to research on the guy but someone tagged me and i'm like oh my god i thought they were giving fedor though that's a big name matchup it's a it's a tournament it's like pride style where you just like the winner doesn't fight

Fedor it's supposed to be like a open weight tournament it's dope what kind of work has Shane had done on his back uh he had surgery I know he had disc replacement and then he had some stuff on his neck he had a disc replacement pretty sure like Like they put one of those artificial jammies in there? I don't want to speak for him, but he had surgery on his neck. He didn't get it fused, did it? Did he get anything fused? I'm not sure. I don't want to speak for Shane.

I know he had surgery on his back. I like Ryzen because they let him take all the vitamins he wants. It's just a monster squad. They should rename it Monsters, Inc. Well, I would like Overeem to go over there, too. Oh, me, too. Just get back to the old way. Just do the old thing, man.

Just do the old thing. You know that thing? Like the old time you need for Jeter in the face and ended his life? Do that. Yeah, when he fought Todd Duffy and he looked like some sort of a cartoon character. God, how fun was that to watch, though? Yo, Romero looked small compared to him. Yo, Romero looked at him like, I gotta start lifting. Yo, Romero looks like malnourished next to him. Yo, Romero looked at him like, I gotta start lifting.

Yo, Romero looks like malnourished next to him. Yo, Romero looks like he has AIDS next to Uber Ream. He's like, I gotta go lift. I gotta get out of here. God damn, I need to fucking hit the gym. Uber Ream? We've never seen anything like it. No.

For whatever reason, when you and I get together, we just fucking have a love fest over this Uber Ream that doesn't exist anymore. It's like the Loch Ness Monster. You and I are obsessed with this. Well, there's video, anymore. It's like the Loch Ness Monster. You and I are obsessed with this. Well, there's video, though. That's the problem. There's proof. It's not just like we see him and we go, oh, that's the guy Stipe just knocked out?

No, I'm telling you, Stipe's a bad motherfucker, no doubt about it. But he's not the same guy. That's not the Brock Lesnar guy. The guy who fought Brock? No. That guy doesn't exist anymore. That guy was terrifying. If he did, he would never lose.

He would never, ever would never ever lose i was so scared because i was fighting that time i was like what the fuck would happen what if they called me up right now i'm gonna have to act sick yeah well yeah it's interesting man that's that's you know the people that say that steroids don't win fights or performance enhancing drugs don't win fights they're crazy those people are crazy crazy you're out of your mind you're crazy it helps a lot you don't think i could have went uber brown uber big brown oh yeah oh yeah grande brown it helps a lot venti brown would do some work it also helps with your chin yes and hopefully i could have taken that hh and my head would have grown

so all of a sudden i have this uberine body and this Mark Hunt head that'd be fucking sick. You know what I hope? Honestly, I really do hope that Rizin takes off and becomes like Pride was back in the day. And you have these nutty, insane, fucking full-bore freak show fights. And we get to see guys just jacked to the tits. I could use that in my life.

That'd be awesome. We would do fight campaigns for every one of them. Fuck yeah! It'd be so sick. Fuck yeah. It'd be so violent. It'd be amazing. If the UFC was smart, they'd get in bed with them.

They'd be like, listen, let's bring- Just be under the table investors. Let's bring this over to the fucking fight pass. Come on, baby. I agree. Come on, baby. Hey, listen. Uber and I want to start some shit.

How about you guys just sign us and then we'll put on fight pass? And encourage the steroids. Say, listen, I know those motherfuckers can't fight like that over here. We're all clean and everything. Super strict. So listen, just fucking give us a little taste. It'd be a good business plan. We'll help you out.

Yes. Yeah, you can watch the freak show. You get it all. The Japanese freak show. You get it all. And who knows, man? Japan is weird. You know, Japan was a huge culture for MMA at one point in time.

Like, at one point in time like at one point in time the ufc was giant over there and then it faded and dropped off bad or excuse me uh pride was giant and then it faded and dropped off bad and dream was kind of like the end of it and then now there's not really a presence there anymore until ryzen comes along so if ryzen can figure out how to bring back the same sort of excitement in the Japanese culture and the Japanese people that they had when they had the pride days, the glory days of selling out Saitama Super Arena and those gigantic places. Then it'd be good business for the UFC because then they just come in the back door like, oh, you like that product? What's up, fellas? We do it bigger and better than everyone.

You know what I'm saying? Put a little piece of that. I wonder how the UFC did because didn't they do Aldo fought Someone out there not Aldo of Anthony Pettis was the main event out there remember yeah I was there. I was there for was it a good show well There has been more than one Japan UFC I've been there for one of them, but that was the bit love lat the latest one remember Rampage fought when I was there I remember that But I don't remember too much about that event Mary Pettis

What I think I feel like personally event and liver kicked the shit out of someone or head kick someone remember that um but i don't remember too much about that event i remember pettis what i think i feel like pettis the main event and liver kicked the shit out of someone or head kick someone it might it might have been um joe lozon yes maybe that was the japan card i felt like roy was on there too might have been i don't remember but i wonder what the numbers were like they couldn't have been too great because ufc was like ah we're good yeah because they haven't been back in a while i don't know i mean, look, the UFC does so many shows. They're doing two next Saturday. They're doing one from Brazil, and they're doing one from Belfast.

Really? Yeah, they're doing the Northern Ireland card is Gegard Mousasi versus Uriah Hall, the rematch. It's fun. Yeah. And then the Brazil card is Ryan Bader versus Little Nog. And Claudia Gadellas. Claudia Gadellas on that card, too. Yeah, and there's one more big fight on that.

Here's someone that no one's talking about in the strawweight division. Jessica Andrade. She moved down. She's a gorilla. Gorilla. Her and Liz Karmou, she's at a bodybuilding contest. It's awesome. Both of them stand in front of each other and flex it out.

I'd watch that. I'll tell you who I wouldn't mind seeing sign with the UFC, and I don't think she needs to work on her stand-up. Obviously, it's super amateur right now, but that Mackenzie. Oh, yeah. I watched her. I think it was on HDNet. She fucking knotted this girl up.

I think it was a go-go platter, and then she started a go-go platter and then got her neck. I mean, her grappling i i think she could come to the ufc right now at strawweight and just top five she's insane her jiu-jitsu is insane it's so insane her striking super amateur but the strawweight divisions at a point where i think she could still do work right now and she's hot as fuck she is a smoked show show. She's a smoke show, and she speaks English and Portuguese fluently. Dime PC. And nasty on the ground. Super nasty.

Super high-level black belt. And the daughter of Megaton Diaz. Yes. Who's a very, very well-respected, famous Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. And a pioneer. He's one of the old school guys. That's her papa. Yeah, it's amazing.

Yeah, I think she's probably eventually going to wind up in the ufc uh she's yeah she's make 115 yeah yeah good luck taking down the polish killer did you see the what she put on her fucking water bottle bro yeah didn't you post it up somebody killer shit one of the guys from the underground posted it up and then i actually wound up getting it from Joe Silva. Joe Silva showed it to me in between fights. It's, let me see the dude's name. Syncognito is the dude's name on MixedMartialArts.com and it says, in two

days I will fuck a bitch up and continue my violent run as champion. She writes that on her water bottle. I'm just a straight cold-blooded killer. that on her water bottle. I'm just a straight, cold-blooded killer. I love her, man. Dude, that fight, I was surprised.

First time we've really seen her in a lot of trouble like that. She got cracked. I think it was a punch. It was a straight punch. I thought it was a punch to the elbow. She punched and came through with that right elbow. And then she was wobbly, man. We've never really seen her in that much danger. Well, and the thing was, Shevchenko was getting lit up for most of the fight.

How tough is that girl? Super tough. Those Polish girls, man. Super tough. And after the fight, looked great. I mean, she had a lot of punches. She had a lot of kicks. Yeah.

A lot of leg kicks, especially. I thought Joanna looked worse as far as face. Yeah, she had that big mouse on her upper eye there. She got cracked with, I think there was a couple of hard elbows in the clinch, too. It was a great fight. But it wasn't a great fight for a while. For a while, it looked like Valentina was just, she just wasn't as fluid or effective. Yeah, she was just hanging in there for a second.

But she never stopped. She never stopped coming forward. She never stopped coming forward. She never stopped coming forward. And she was never discouraged. I mean, she had some moments where she couldn't solve the puzzle. And Ioana was doing a really good job of ending the combinations with leg kicks. Inside and outside. Inside and outside.

Non-stop. Yeah. And all those leg kicks, that was really making a big difference. If you follow Ioana, though, it was a tough fight, but Joanna definitely won that. She said her first fight with Claudia Gadeja, that was the tougher fight for her. She had a tough fight in the last one with Claudia Gadeja. Really tough. She won.

Really tough. She won, but she's been to some wars. Valerie Letourneau, she fought that fight. She had a broken hand somewhere in the fight. She kept punching with it she's just a murderer man she's a badass woman she's a badass woman

is Tony Hinchcliffe still obsessed with her loves her they look like brother and sister though don't they yeah it would be weird if they fucked she might outweigh him

yeah that's a tough one when she's not cutting weight that's a tough one yeah she definitely beat his ass he admitted that he better admit it you know. Definitely beat his ass. He admitted that. He better admit it. You know she'd beat your ass, right?

You know she'd put her hands on you, right? Yeah, he loves her, man. She's a killer. Killer. That was a long-ass card, though. And what I was watching on the East Coast in Florida, dude, the cards get done late there. It was like 1 a.m. by the time Connor was walking out, yeah?

Yeah, Jamie was there. We couldn't get somewhere to eat. We tried to get into the first restaurant. It was like 1 a.m. by the time Connor was walking out, yeah? Yeah. Jamie was there. We couldn't get somewhere to eat. We tried to get into the first restaurant. It was goddamn packed. At 2 o'clock, 2.30 in the morning, we wound up at Katz's Deli, because Katz's Deli is 24-7. It was hard to find food. It was mobbed. I can't remember.

Everywhere was mobbed. It's crazy how late it got done for these guys. Well, New York is just different. New York bars stay open, I think, until 4. Florida's until 5. Did you know that? I think, till four. Florida's till five. Did you know that? Oh, Florida was crap. Florida was popping. Like, everything was great, and I was exhausted.

I was like, ah, how are you going, man? Two hours of sleep and got on a plane. I was exhausted, man. Yeah, especially if you're in southern Florida. Southern Florida's ridiculous. That's where we were at, and then it's like that, and then with the time change in LA, you know, you're just all messed up. But that's why sports, like change in la you know you just all messed up but but that's why it's sports like and you know obviously not in football but like the heisman

vote and stuff like that on the east coast it's so late that you know like i don't see a lot of it you know or they don't see a lot of the monday night football or college games because it's just so damn late i feel like there's a better route to go uh nope obviously they would do it if it was right yeah well the east coast doesn't mind staying up late and the west coast demands it be on their schedule so it winds up starting at seven that stuff more people that film things out here good point sir yeah and if they did it on the the west coast of the east coast schedule it happened too early you would lose money like if you have the show at 5, people are not done working. Like, people have to work on Saturday. They're still at work.

It's true. So it can't be at 4, which would be if it was their time, our time, who is 7 p.m. And then all of a sudden, you also have to think about the undercard. What if somebody wants to watch the undercard? On FS1, you're not going to pay for the undercard. FS1 is going to be, hey, listen, bitch, you can't put the undercard

on at 10 in the morning. Nobody wants to watch that shit. And they've done it when they're in Brazil or something like that. But they'll get mad. People get mad. That's true. You're not going to get the mass audience. It's obviously working.

Yeah, and the East Coast stays up. They always stay up. Dude, how crazy that Massacre Garden, after the fight, the lights on the stadium, which they've never done before in the arena, were Irish colors for Conor McGregor. It's pretty intense. Andrian and i were arguing this do you think conor mcgregor is more well known than floyd mayweather currently yes because boxing's a bigger sport yeah because you look at you look at floyd manny like the pay-per-view numbers destroys anything connor's ever been close to.

That's true. Maybe not. Maybe no. I was arguing Conor is bigger. Because of social media and stuff like that. But Floyd has more followers on Instagram, Twitter. But you can't judge it off that. Here's the thing.

The amount of excitement that Floyd generates does not even fucking compare to the amount of excitement that Conor generates. That doesn't mean he's more popular. I understand. But it does kind of. Because the intensity of excitement that connor generates that doesn't mean he's more popular i understand but it does kind of because the intensity of the popularity the love people might know who floyd mayweather is but when it comes to how many people love floyd mayweather it's not even close it might be like some ridiculous 10 to 1 or 20 to 1 because when connor gets out there they go fucking crazy crazy how many people are there to see floyd mayweather lose how many people are bored after floyd mayweather lose? How many people are bored after Floyd Mayweather fights?

Like, Floyd Mayweather fights so skillfully and surgically and doesn't take any chances and hardly ever gets hit. Conor mercs motherfuckers. He wins the world title and the fastest ever title winning knockout ever. What does he do after that? He comes back and makes Eddie Alvarez look like... Eddie Alvarez, world champion.

The guy was... He's defending his belt. Hall of Famer. Hall of Famer. And Conor makes him look like he has no business in there with him. No business. Has zero success at all except for a couple of body shots. This is why I think Conor's bigger and more transcendent because. You just bailed on that word. I did.

Sorry, man. Transcendent. Transcendent. Because I just bailed, right? Just fucking out. You like that? I do that sometimes. I'm just like, yeah, I'm out.

I think I'm using it wrong. I'm like, I'm seeing it. And we're going to go. And operation eject. But how many successful black athletes do we know? Joe Gillen. How many white Irish superstars do we know? One.

Yeah, one. One, sir. Barry McGuigan was a big star before he came to the united states and he came to the united states and eventually lost his belt but barry mcguigan at one point in time was a huge star but nowhere near the star that connor is worldwide and and this goes for all athletes connor's the green elephant in the room everyone else we've seen before everyone else we know what they can kind of do. Connor's this green elephant amongst all these gray elephants, and there's nothing like him. Totally different thing.

Totally different animal. It's crazy. He's an elephant with two fucking trunks. He's got 15 dicks. 15 dicks, two trunks. And a bag of gold with a leprechaun outfit on it. Correct. Hi.

And now he has a little son on the way. And they gave him a fucking Rolls Royce with his face on it. How crazy is that? What's interesting is how well he manages it all it's really interesting you know like the pressure in particular he doesn't seem to have a problem with it at all isn't it weird that's what makes him so special because that magnitude and the pressure and he has to deliver and he has to do those antics and then back it up yeah but he keeps pulling it off like you at the press conference i was like all right this is stupid man this is getting old to me but then when he pulls off i'm like that was brilliant and you know i mean the guy steps in he loses to diaz right takes the diaz fight on short notice

oh by the way after a staph infection here's something a lot of people don't even know he had a pretty significant staph infection was on antibiotics until like i think two weeks before the fight if you don't think that drains your gas tank, you never had a staph infection, and you never had to take antibiotics. Antibiotics are brutal on your respiratory system. Yeah, they're brutal on your whole body. It's just your body's meant up. Yeah. Your body's made up of all this shit

that you don't consider to be you, but it is you. Stomach flora is a real part of you. You know, your body's essentially like an ecosystem. And when you have a staph infection, staph infections are dangerous It's fuck and people die from them your and then so they hit you with some heavy-duty antibiotics I've had staph twice and it's not fun and the first time I had it and I took the medication

I couldn't believe how I felt so weird. I felt lightheaded. I felt weak. I was like whoa. You're drained right? You have no energy super strong stuff, too. And I was like, wow, imagine this guy fighting two weeks after this. It's insane. Because there's no way you peak correctly. No. So he comes from that, and then he fights Nate again, you know, a few months later, in a fucking

crazy five-round war, and beats him by the narrowest of margins, right? Don't you agree? Yeah. Very narrow. Very close fight, where some people thought that Nate won. I mean, very close. I didn't think he did, but super close fight. I thought the decision was correct, but I was like, wow, that's a close fight.

So takes that fucking crazy chance, comes back and fights that guy. Connor weighed 169. That's what he weighed when he weighed in. That's what he weighed during the fight. And they want him to fight at 55. He goes, no, no, no, I can be at 70. Let me do 70. Nate weighed probably around 190 something yeah i mean did i mean everybody says that nate is a 155 pounder he is 100 but he's a way bigger man

way bigger than connor is he just is you know so it's like who's gonna weigh more when they actually get in there nate's gonna weigh So he does that, and then goes from there and just starches Eddie Alvarez like a world beater and just so relaxed and loose in there. So amazing. Fucking Madonna was at the show. Madonna was at the fucking show. Madonna was at the fights.

How crazy is that? Madonna's Instagramming. Mama, we made it. Mama, we made it. Mama, we made it. It's red panty night. It's red panty night, and Madonna, you're up. I think she's single. Where the fuck is my second belt?

I envisioned this. Where the fuck is me belt? Nuts, man. Yeah. It's fucking nuts. He's a character, man. He's such a character. And, you know.

I thought he was going to make a big announcement. I thought his announcement was he's going to retire. But his announcement was like, if I'm going to continue doing this, I need a share of the company. Yeah, that's probably what the announcement was going to be all along, that he wants a piece of the pie. I mean, he's got an argument that he probably should get a percentage of the promotion. Because what they're selling is Conor McGregor. They're selling the UFC plus Conor McGregor. The question is, how much of that card, what would it be?

We don't know what the numbers are, so let's pretend the number is 2 million, which would be the greatest card of all time. It probably wouldn't hit that. I don't know. I bet it's around 1.7. Let's just say 2 million because it's easy to- Correct, sir. Let's say that.

What percentage bought it because of Conor? It might be a million. 1 million plus for sure. Might be. 1 million plus for sure. Literally might be. 1 let's say that. What percentage bought it because of Conor? It might be a million. One million plus for sure. Might be. One million plus for sure. Literally might be. One million plus for sure. So one million people might have bought the pay-per-view specifically because of one human being.

That is not outrageous to say. But this is the other thing in Conor's favor. Name another star who can do that. Ronda can't quite do that. She can't quite do it. And she's talking about this might be my last fight blah blah so i don't think she said that i think she said she's close a few less right which when you hear that yeah right like you were talking about having one foot

out blah blah so let's say she has two fights left maybe three who knows but she's not the same draw as connor it's just not it's just you look the numbers, she's not the same draw. But, if she comes back, beats Amanda Nunes, arm bars her, and then fights Holly, beats Holly, gets her rematch, arm bars her. She's still not as big as Connor. You don't know that. Because as that happens,

but here's the thing, as these people win, their star gets more and more giant. As Ronda, if Ronda came back and started winning again, her star would get more and more giant. It would get bigger, it star gets more and more giant. As Ronda, if Ronda came back and started winning again, her star would get more and more giant. It would get bigger. It would fuel more. The more bodies she claims, the more fuel her fire will have. That is what

happens all the time. I mean, it's pure speculation. It really is. But if she can win the way Conor's been winning, if she can win in spectacular fashion, or the way she was winning when she fucked up Alexis Davis and Sarah McMahon. Merkin girls? Merkin girls. And and then she cuts to 115 she could never make but you know she could fuck no why not she's way too big but is she okay yeah I mean yeah because she was really really rough the way and sometimes a 35

that ain't that's this is nine yeah but if foror, and again, I'm not rooting for favorites. I'm just saying it from a business standpoint. For Conor, he's such a big draw. What's going to help him is his negotiating power if Ronda were to lose this next fight. Because then he's like, I'm the only motherfucker in town. You guys were claiming me and Ronda? That's cool. She just lost.

I need my fucking money. And by the way, Ronda has a tough fight in front of her. Amanda Nunes is goddamn scary She's scary girl. I think she's the one I was saying before Rhonda lost to Holly I was saying she should have got the title fight, and I said I said that I think she's the most dangerous one Yeah, and I was talking shit to you the way she stopped Sarah McMahon. She cracks her with that right hand She hits like a match. She hits like a dude, but she well well, Cyborg hits like a dude. Amanda hits like a strong girl. Big difference.

Cyborg hits like Tyrone Woodley with braids. Let's be real. She hits so hard and gets no love because she's so goddamn scary and can't make the weight. She also has a better arsenal. She'll throw kicks and knees. She also black belt on the ground.

I think Amanda is too. Amanda is. But Amanda she'll throw kicks and knees. She'll also black belt on the ground. Yeah. I think Amanda is, too, yeah? Amanda is. But Amanda has lost on the ground before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She got beat up by Kat Zingano on the ground. Correct. Yeah. Cyborg will rip your limbs off.

Yeah. But she's getting no love. She's too big. I know. It sucks for her. She's digging at 155. Well, at 150. Well, again, if they did that whole thing where I'm talking about the eliminated weight

cuts. There'd be two girls. Cyborg would fight at, like, if they did that whole thing where I'm talking about the eliminated weight cuts. There'd be two girls. Cyborg would fight at like 180. Cyborg would fight at 180 and it'd be her and that big ass girl, Gabby Garcia. Gabby Garcia fights at 280. But that's all we got for you. Gabby would have to cut weight to make Gabby weight. You and Gabby fight every other weekend.

How about that? Like Tim Sylvie and Andre Orlowski. Let's do that. Every other weekend. Tim Sylvie versus Andre Orlowski. Them and Frank Merrill would fight like every other weekend. Yeah, the old days. Every other weekend. Tim Sylvia versus Andre Oskar. They were fighting like, them and Frank Mayer were fighting like every other weekend because all we had.

The old days. But I think for Ronda, the Amanda Nunes fight, stylistically, and again, we don't know, we don't know where Ronda's mental state is at,

but stylistically, it's a great matchup for Ronda. You think so? Yeah, I think if she comes ready, prepared, has a good camp, she mercs her. But don't you think

that you look at the way she fucked up Misha Tate, you're like, that girl presents a lot of danger with those punches, especially considering what happened with Holly and Rhonda. Yeah, but yeah. I think she presents a lot of danger. 100%, Joe. I think you're right on that.

But I think her marching forward is the perfect antidote to get merc'd by Rhonda. Because she's like, oh, come get some of this judo that I'm going to armbar your ass. Right. If she marches forward. Which is really all she knows how to do. You know what I'm saying? Could be interesting. It's a great fight either way.

But it's also interesting to see where Ronda's head is now that she's coming back. That's the X factor. Because if it's Ronda 100%, she beats her, I think, nine out of 10 times. Strong words. I know. But if it's Ronda who's kind of, ah, I want to do movies, I want to do this, this isn't for me, you're going to get murked. Because that girl hits so hard.

Well, what Ronda has and what Ioana has, and not a whole lot of other women have it, is one thing that they do where they're really fucking good at it. And then they have all those other stuff. Correct. Whereas Paige Van Zandt is kind of learning the whole sport. She's learning the whole thing as she goes. But what Paige has is just toughness. And she's hot. Ridiculously hot.

That helps, too. That definitely helps. But there's not other girls, you know, other than Valentina, Valentina Shevchenko. She's another one who's a badass, who's another super powerful striker. I mean, the way she handled Holly Holm standing up. I know, man. Yeah, handled her. Just countered her at will.

That looping left hook, that check hook that she throws off the right side. Yeah, she's another one. But there's not, they need more of those. I agree. Like, that's where Mackenzie Dern fits in. Exactly. Mackenzie Dern come and do work, and she's gorgeous. But I'm saying if Conor's like, listen, I don't wish bad on anyone, but if Ronda were to lose, we throwing a party in Ireland.

Because I'm the only show in town now. Give me my fucking piece of the pie. Well, nobody has that sort of personality that he has. No one, ever. I think even he eclipses Ali. I think he eclipses all of them. I think he's bigger than Chael Sonnen, for sure. Me too.

As far as his ability to talk shit. He's better than all of them. I think he is. I think he's better than Ali better than ollie but ollie stood for a different thing right like his message is more important when you fight for equal rights well he's also fighting to stop the vietnam war correct like there's bigger times he had several things correct for him that were bigger correct connor's white privilege yeah his nice suits Nice suits The government's not trying to send him over to fight in a war He's not even American They're not stripping his belt for how long?

Three years Because he won't fight three years In his prime In his prime That's like basically taking the belt from Conor right now Right now Three years we'll see soon And then he comes back in three years after not having trained at all

Ali didn't even work out for three years Because when Ali wasn't fighting he was like why would I work out? Well fucked up sir And he was never the same was he? out? Well, fucked up, sir. And he was never the same, was he? No. No. Not only was he not the same, he didn't have the footwork anymore.

He didn't have the endurance anymore. He didn't have the fire, really. He came back. You look at his body when he came back and fought. He fought Jerry Quarry. Smooth. His comeback fight. Yeah, smooth. Smooth.

That's what's scary. Not scary, but it's interesting to see what happens with Jon Jones. Yeah. Because now he's suspended for a year, right? And he's been out even longer. And then before that, so they're stripping his title. And then Dana, obviously, he never sticks to what he says. Sometimes he does.

But he goes, he'll never be a main event again. Like, we can't book him as the main event because we can't trust him anymore. Wow. I know, right? So for John, granted, he's doing that flow grappling event against. Get the fuck out of here. That flow grappling, he could have been fighting for the UFC heavyweight title. Oh, no, I'm just saying, at least he's doing something active.

At least he's not Muhammad Ali. Yeah, I guess. He's lost millions of dollars, but at least he's doing something in combat sports. Well, he's only suspended for a year retroactively. July. It's up in July. Yeah, so he has to get, I think, July 16. But still, it's been a while, because remember, before that, you did that huge laugh before you see 200.

I know. So when he comes back, it's going to be interesting to see what we get out of him. I know. And then he came back and he fought Ovin St. Preux and looked kind of tentative. And then you saw Jimmy Manilow run through Ovin St. Preux. All these guys are getting better. They're getting better. They're rising up.

And Rumble's fighting DC for the title again. That's going to be a real interesting fight. Super interesting. Because remember, Rumble did land that huge shot at DC and flattened him. Yeah, who knows? In this fight, he's got Neil Melanson in his corner now. He's had him for a few years now. He's worked with a lot on his grappling.

I guarantee you he's concentrated a lot more on his wrestling. There's a lot of videos of him running wrestling drills. Wrestling nonstop. Yeah, so he's preparing. He's preparing to get up. He's preparing for takedown defense. It's a fun fight, man. It's a toss-up of him running wrestling drills wrestling non-stop yeah so he's preparing he's preparing to get up he's preparing for takedown defense it's a fun fight man it's a toss-up for me toss-up and then john jones has all this laugh he comes back and let's say rumble for a reason wins he's like what's up man yeah let's do it well why do you think he's going to get a straight shot at the title i don't even know if he would get a straight shot at the title and upon

coming back you know that's what everyone wants to see, though, isn't it? Maybe. That's what the fans demand. There might be something going on by then. By the time this time rolls around next year or July rolls around, so he's free in July. See, I don't know how suspensions work, but what had been explained to me is performance-enhancing drug suspensions don't even allow you to train with other fighters who are on the roster. Really?

Yes. When your suspension is up, then you to train with other fighters who are on the roster. Really? Yes. When your suspension is up, then you can train with them. I don't think you're even supposed to be sparring with them. What? Once they hand down a suspension- They don't have that regulation, do they? I don't know about that, man. Is that right?

Look that up, Jamie. I don't think that's true. We've got to wrap this up soon. Yeah, I don't think that's true. I hope it's not because it's crazy. Because you could help your teammates. Even if you're suspended, you can still train and help your teammates. And also sharpen your sword a little bit.

Yeah, it's like telling a guy who's an accountant, you're suspended for a year, you can't even touch a calculator. Where at night he's touching calculators. Yeah, he's going to touch them. Yeah, go and touch that TI-83. Ooh, you know the model number. Touch that TI-83 Texas instrument. Yeah, I'm a nerd. No, they used to make them.

I remember those. Now it's on your phone. Now your phone's like a thousand times, I'm a nerd. No, they used to make them. Have them in school. I remember those. Now it's on your phone. Now your phone's like a thousand times better. Yeah, fuck a calculator. That TI-83 was like a fucking elongated Game Boy. Yeah, like the calculator business, man. They took a hit. They're no longer around.

Yeah, who's buying calculators? They're like Blockbuster. There's none of them left, man. It's over. Does this say anything, Jamie? See anything? The first article I clicked on was the one from last year. I don't think so.

But the other thing to your point where you don't think who says they'll get a title shot, the light heavyweight division is just L dinosaurs besides the top few guys. They're so old. John's like, I'm not fucking fighting Shogun again. I don't know if Shogun's going to fight again. But Jimmy Manilow is a very dangerous fight for anybody right now. He's a dangerous fight for John, too. Manilow's good. You are reaching, sir.

No, I'm not. You are reaching. The way Manilow lit up Ovin St. Preux. Did you see what happened when he fought Gustafson? He got cracked. Yeah. Did you see what happened when he fought Rumble? He got cracked.

He got dealt with. Yeah, but that's part of the game. When he fought Upper Estrion, he got dealt he got dealt with that's part of that He got dealt with right. It's part of the game Well, Oven St. Prue just went fucking the full distance with John Jones in a tough fight with a sleepy John Jones and had a broken arm Yeah, got his arm broken that John broke that arm by throwing kicks, right? Yeah, but my point is he went the distance and st Prue took him out pretty quick. I think he's day or I think not st. Prue rather Jimmy Manoa took him out pretty quick. I think he's dangerous. I think, not St. Preux, rather. Jimmy Manoa took him out pretty quick. I think Manoa was super dangerous.

Very fluid. It'd be a dangerous first round for John in his comeback fight. I think taking him down and beating him up on the ground would be John's best time. 100%. He's going to trip him, throw him to the ground, and submit him. Also, John's different than anybody else in his length and his ability to use it.

Doesn't get hit, really. His wrestling's so fucking good. He's just so long and strong. Just not scared to go to the ground with anybody. But you look at light heavyweight divisions hurting the most out of anyone, I think. You go down the roster, like, God, dog, we need some new blood in this bitch. Yeah, you might be right. The main event in Brazil is Ryan Bader of Little Nog. Little Nog's like, yeah, I'll fucking do it.

Yeah, I'll do it. I've been fighting for 35 years. Yeah, when is Little Nog? I move like a goddamn tortoise, but if you want to pay me, I'll still do it. He hasn't taken the same amount of punishment that his brother has, but he's taken some big knockouts. Yeah, hope, hope, hope. Remember when Sokodju knocked him out with a wrist? Oh, my God.

He, like, clotheslined him. Yeah. Yeah. And then the Rumble one was just horrendous. remember when Sokodju knocked him out with a wrist oh my god he like clotheslined him yeah yeah and then the rumble one was just horrendous dude I told you I was in the back

of the locker room warming up Pat Cummings that motherfucker warmed up by basically doing like arm stretches couldn't even hit mitts he was so stiff

I was like who's he fighting like rumble I was like he can't go out there I looked at his coach I'm like no no I can't speak Spanish there i looked at his coach i'm like no no i can't speak spanish

but no bueno or portuguese sorry yeah there's no community i'm like he can't go out there man i wanted to grab his leg like a three-year-old not let him walk out to the octagon i think brazil is such a huge hotbed for mma right now it's so gigantic that they need brazilian stars and you know for the main event in particular, they just don't have a whole lot of options in the light heavyweight division. Someone fucking wake up Little Nog out of his slumber because he's recuperating. Little Nog or Big Nog? Little Nog.

Because they're waking him up out of slumber because Big Nog's done. Right, he's done. Little Nog, they woke his ass up and he's like an alpha-light baiter. I mean, he's probably asking for another fight. But outside of him, what other good light heavyweights from brazil that are in the ufc that you could like sell a main event are glover but they already fought right but glover just got cracked too and he should probably take quite a while off after that knockout that was the kind of knockout that you need to like not do nothing yeah he needs to lay low yeah he got flatlined i mean so you got

that light heavy you got shogun which i don't know what's going on i think shogun's got to be done if he's not done he's probably real close to being that's what i'm saying look at light heavyweight bro go through in brazilian though even more so like as far as like brazilian fighters as far as fame machito machito got suspended suspended and suspended for a long fucking time isn't he doesn't have a two year uh? I'm not sure. It's not good. I don't know if they've decided or not, but... I felt like he got suspended for two years.

I mean, just look at the Brazilian fighters, especially, you're right, light heavyweight. And Machida was going 85 anyway. He can float between 205. I'm just thinking 205 guys he could line up with in Brazil. Yeah, not a lot. Not a whole lot. I mean, Bader already fought Lyoto.

You could sell that as a rematch because remember leoto knocked him out in la yeah bad yeah but he's suspended all the you're right though all the especially there's not a lot of new blood in brazil no look at jose look at the faces anderson silva his leg fell off he just lost the bisbing and then he got oh then he lost to dc so he's basically done well th, Thomas Almeida was looking really good before Cody Garbrandt came around. Ooh, he murked him. He murked him. Oh, who's homeboy that TJ Dillashaw is fighting?

Hits like a fucking Mack truck. John Lineker. Lineker. That's a good fight. That's a good fight. Very good fight. Lineker's terrifying. They told TJ, like, listen, we did think you beat Don McCruise.

You're not getting a title shot. We're giving it to Garbrandt. Here's fucking Lineker, though. And if Garbrandt wins and TJ wins, it's a big if on both sides, right? Who knows? It's a big, big if. Especially on the Dominic Cruz side. Good luck hitting that guy.

I know, but if he does land. If he lands, he knocks everybody out. I'm a Garbrandt fan, man. He's my favorite at that weight class. I love that dude. He's an old school, young, that weight class, 135. He reminds me of Chuck Liddell. He's a fucking savage.

But just real small. He's a savage. No doubt. Good looking dude, too. You like him? Knocking bitches out. You like it? I like it.

I like the whole package. I like the knockout power. I like that he mercs dudes. All right, we got to wrap this up. I got to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, quit talking about dudes in their fizzies. So, Fighter and the Kid, tfatk.com, Brendan Schaub on Twitter, and Instagram. I'm at the Laugh Factory Thursday, son. Oh, shit.

I know. This Thursday, Laugh Factory doing stand-up. How many times have you been on stage now? By myself like that? Yeah. I mean, I always start stand-up with the Fighter and the Kids, but Comedy Store, I think three times, and this is the first time at Laugh Factory. Oh, shit. You like it? Love it. All it all right thursday go out what time's the show uh

eight o'clock if you're in la represent all right thanks brother thank you man fun times fun times i missed you love you i love you too man see you soon