The Joe Rogan Experience - #881 - Lee Camp

Episode Date: December 2, 2016

Lee Camp is a stand-up comedian, writer, actor, and activist. He is the host of the weekly comedy news show "Redacted Tonight with Lee Camp" on RT America. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Do Uno Ya Vamos See We're live That's all I know in Spanish Don't expect more
Starting point is 00:00:12 Ladies and gentlemen Lee Camp Lee Camp This is what I want to do buddy Lee Camp Alex Jones Cenk Uygur And me
Starting point is 00:00:21 Let's go drinking We can all be friends Could we? Yes. It would be a mess. We're going to pass around a joint. We're going to agree to be friendly. We'll all just go to dinner somewhere, have a good old time, throw back some beers.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I think we would all get along famously. I know nothing about Alex Jones off the mic. I can't even imagine what goes on. I love him. I love him. I don't care what anybody says about him being crazy. Alex Jones is my friend, and I love that guy. He's a big, sweet teddy bear.
Starting point is 00:00:49 He's a super nice guy. Does he get humor at all? Oh, yeah. He comes to comedy shows all the time. He's a fucking big comedy fan. Because I saw Doug Stanhope on. Doug's friends with him, too. And I saw Doug on with him once, and it just seemed like Doug was being hilarious.
Starting point is 00:01:08 It just seemed like he didn't get it. He didn't know know what was happening have you ever seen him with Joey Diaz no it's one of the funniest moments in the history of radio they're like bizarro versions of each other he told Joey Diaz that um it was on the internet that's where he fucked up because there was one part that we were doing we were in Austin and we're in studio and one part we were doing was on the radio radio. So on the radio radio, he can't swear. He's like, well, this next part is going to be on the internet. But, you know, you can swear. I mean, you shouldn't swear.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Definitely you shouldn't swear. But if you do, it's no big deal. No one's going to go to jail. So all of a sudden, Joey Diaz realizes the floodgates are open. So he just, I mean, Joey's the funniest guy. He's like, if he's not the funniest guy that's ever lived, he's in the top two or three. Joey is amazing. And he just goes off.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And I'm just sitting there red faced and crying and laughing. I'm laughing so hard I can't breathe. And he just, and Alex didn't know what to do with it. He didn't know what to do with it. He didn't know what to do with it. He was trying to juggle it. You want to play it, Jamie? Oh, you have it? This is like this. Play part of it, yeah. Just play it. I don't know. to do with it. He was trying to juggle it. You want to play it, Jamie? Oh, you have it?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Let's just look at this. Play part of it, yeah. Just play it. No, I don't know. Look at the movie. He was dancing and singing, and next you know he's dying of oxygen. No, not right. A junkie's a junkie's a junkie's a junkie every day.
Starting point is 00:02:15 He doesn't wake up singing, dance, and then he has oxygen tanks at night. Something's not right. He's talking about Michael Jackson. And in my case, old school. You're worth more dead than what you are alive. You understand me? And now they got a new record coming out. He ain't in debt no more. He's doing a tour next year with the people from Vegas
Starting point is 00:02:31 that jump up and down the Blue Band group, whatever the hell that is. I mean, he's worth more now than he's ever been. I could kill Michael Jackson. If it was up to me, me knowing what I know, I'd smoke another joint, I'd break it down. I'd break it down, because he bought the music from Paul McCartney and didn't want to give it back to him. And all of a sudden they put Paul McCartney in the Super Bowl, they tried to build up the Beatles to get their thing going.
Starting point is 00:02:54 By the way, we're so high right now. So high. Like we got barbecued before this thing. Obama and the elite. It's a strategy. Keep going. I don't know what to say. Show me your D-I's here. I would do you, but would you do you? We're so high right now. I mean, we really should never be on the air.
Starting point is 00:03:19 So most of this is on the regular radio until Joey finds out that the radio, see if you can find where he goes off because he only goes off for like five minutes, but he's screaming and yelling about going to the TSA with a bag of weed under his balls. And Alex just tried to bring it back to Hillary Clinton and the elites. I would never want to try and compete with Joey Diaz on anything. We just got to let him go. We got to let him go. But I'm telling you, Joey loves Alex, too.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Joey and Alex They went to I had this weed Stinking You're like Rodney You're fucking Rodney I had this weed That was stinking up a storm
Starting point is 00:03:53 Not to mention my balls I'm sweating now Cause I'm gonna go to jail tonight And all of a sudden The guy goes He's clear And he shook my hand And I'm like
Starting point is 00:04:00 My taxpayers are hard at work I'm smoking weed You listen to your politician Who's talking to you Like a Christian. He's lying. What's mine? Someone already edited this.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Oh, this is someone else's edit, obviously, because that's where he goes, you know, you can't take a joke, take a taxi. And then what does he yell out? I don't remember. Oh, yeah. Big dicks in your ass is bad for your health. Stay black. And then he leaves the studio.
Starting point is 00:04:22 He just leaves? He goes, stay black. That's the most important thing. I mean, he knows when to exit the room. Oh. That's the most important thing. I mean, he just knows when to exit the room. That's it. Hey, hey, go fuck yourself. Hold on, hold on one second.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Take a joke, take a shuttle. Joey Diaz, Facebook, Twitter, check yourself before you wreck yourself. Big dicks in your ass. Get out of here. You're in trouble. I'm the umpire. This is the... Alright, alright.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Stay black because that's the most important. Okay, okay. Hey, Joe. That's the only way to deal with Alex Jones. I'm telling you, Alex is a good guy. He's a nice guy. He's just balls deep in that world. He's balls deep in the, you got to get dried food.
Starting point is 00:05:10 You need gold, ladies and gentlemen. I don't know if he believes half of the shit he's saying. I think he just knows it gets hits. We've got hypnotic brain pills that the CIA found in a vat in the basement. Charlton Heston uncovered this years ago and was silenced for it. The brain pills. You gotta get silver in your veins. They drink that silver water.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I had a buddy of mine who used to do that. He used to have a rod that you would electrify. It would have wires on it and you would dip it in water. I'm like, what are you doing? And he's like, you're making some sort of a silver drink and if you have a cold, you drink that, you're fine. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah, if you spend your whole hour telling people that they need to fear for their lives and then go buy the survival garden! It's like, yeah, you just told us we need the survival garden. Set it up. He sells some good fucking survival food, though, if you want some solid survival
Starting point is 00:06:04 food. Jesus Christ, there was a video that Duncan sent me yesterday. This dude put together of Jim Baker. The Jim Baker, you know, Jim Baker's back. And when Trump won, I mean, they were like, it was like Jesus came home. You got to watch this video because I put it. See how much of it we can watch. How much of it can we watch without getting kicked off? We just put a little bit of it in the background.
Starting point is 00:06:26 But it's the actual Jim Baker show. Jim Baker has an actual show now. Oh, yeah? And he sells food. He sells dried food, like survival food, that they're advertising it as furniture. You stack it around your dinner table. Oh, God. And then you put your table on it.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Dude, if I walked in and I saw somebody had that furniture, dude, run for your lives. He has a whole setup on the stage. He has a whole setup on the stage. Oh my god. Pretty sure we can't play this. Okay, is this the one that was on my Twitter feed? Yeah, this is on Dungeons and Dragons. Look at this guy. Yeah, this is it.
Starting point is 00:07:00 This is it. Whoever, who put this together? What is the guy's name? Super Deluxe? What's that number? Twitter super deluxe? But that's it just super deluxe. Yeah, it's fucking hope to I'm sorry YouTube Super deluxe whoever you are you masked man. This is goddamn genius. This is Survival food genocide Because that was the number one problem with survival food is what do you do with it all, so you gotta make it furniture.
Starting point is 00:07:28 He's making furniture in people's houses. I mean he's doing all this shit with a straight face. This guy's a maniac. That's crazy. And he's making cash. I almost wanna like, I would almost like to get that guy high and get him on a podcast how bizarre would it be you'd end up wearing a little hat like that baby like if you just talk him into going camping with you and slip him a couple of edibles you know dude it would wake all these people what
Starting point is 00:07:58 would alex jones be like he'd be great joe on some lst i gotta settle down i gotta relax i'm just saying the elites have just got me so fucking riled up i just want to start That would be great. Joe, you're right. I got to settle down. I got to relax. I'm just saying, the elites have just got me so fucking riled up. I just want to start. Did you see Eric Andre when he kind of crashed Alex Jones' things at the RNC? I heard about it. I didn't see it. I just ran into him at the airport. I love that dude.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah, he's hilarious. Alex Jones thinks he's with the Daily Show. So Eric Andre's in the crowd. He's like, let's get the Daily Show up here. Bring him up here. Bring him up here. Daily Show guy, come up here. Come up here.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And he goes, this guy is a Pentagon shill for The Daily Show. And Eric Andre's like, I'm not with The Daily Show. Oh, no. He's like, I'm Eric Andre. I got my own show, bitch. And then he goes, I want to sleep with your wife, Alex. Oh, no. And Alex Jones is like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:08:42 He's like, no, I really want to sleep with your wife. Or no, I want you to sleep with my wife. I'll give you the room key if you sleep with my wife. And Alex Jones is like, are you talking about And he's like No I really I want to sleep with your wife Or no I want you to sleep With my wife I'll give you the room key If you sleep with my wife And Alex Jones is like I don't know what's going on And they
Starting point is 00:08:50 He's uh He's susceptible To manipulation I'll say that He can be trolled He's a good dude though I swear to god he is I've known Alex forever
Starting point is 00:09:02 I've known him since 99 Really Yeah we did a video together A long time ago With me and him Dressed up like George Bush I swear to God he is. I've known Alex forever. I've known him since 99. Really? Yeah, we did a video together a long time ago with me and him, dressed up like George Bush, running around the Capitol, and we went to the bathroom and smoked bongs. No way. Yeah, it was hilarious, because I offered him a hit of the bong, and he goes, I don't do that shit.
Starting point is 00:09:16 It makes me paranoid. Yeah, that makes him paranoid. It was an inside joke. It was fun. Did he have the same shtick then? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It changed. Look, dude, he was doing that long before I met him.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Long before I met him, he would like fucking, like, Herbert Walker Bush would be somewhere and he would, you know, meet there and call him a war criminal and yell out and get arrested. Actually, it was like GW when he was running for president, I think, Alex got arrested. He got arrested a gang of times. Right. The thing is, Alex had some, he was right about a lot of shit. HW being a war criminal is fine. He was right about the NSA stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:56 He was saying from a long time ago. I mean, years before the Edward Snowden shit came out. He was like, I guarantee you there is a place right now where they are dumping all of your information. They can collect data. They have the capability. And I was like, come on, man. Who's copying all the emails? That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Could you imagine 15 years ago you said, they're watching everything. They know your emails. Anyone said that, you were like, all right, let's get the fuck away from this guy. Now everyone's like, oh, yeah, sure they are. Like, how quickly things changed. So quick. It's like, you yeah, sure they are. Like, how quickly things changed. So quick.
Starting point is 00:10:25 It's like, just assume. You know how much NSA and privacy were mentioned in the three presidential debates, one vice presidential debate? Zero. It never came up. It never came up. This is the largest surveillance infrastructure ever created, not mentioned, in the presidential debates. Never discussed. Fucking insane, right?
Starting point is 00:10:44 That's almost like the agreement. Like, you guys can talk shit about each other all you want. Start talking about the NSA, we're going to have a real fucking problem. I mean, that's the number one way that they honestly, like mainstream media and all this shit lies to us. It's just ignoring stuff. It's not usually flat out lies. It's just we're not going to talk about it. I tell you what, man.
Starting point is 00:11:04 There was a really impressive moment where I was like, I was really impressed with Obama as a person. Where he was at this, they were doing this campaign speech. And this guy, a Trump supporter was in the crowd. And this guy was throwing a flag up in the air, or this Trump flag. And, you know, was waving. And he's an older guy. And he had like some sort of military outfit on. And he's yelling out, you know, Trump.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And he's got his sign up. And all these people are booing and Obama stops him and he goes and he goes First of all, he goes this is a gentleman. He's an older gentleman. We should respect our elders So let's think about that and he goes and it looks like he's done some military service He's got a military so we should respect our veterans Yeah, and then he got in these he got to this and he goes, don't boo, vote. Mm-hmm. Don't boo, vote. And he goes, we respect freedom of speech.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah. Like, don't boo this man. Vote. I like that, but the whole respect the veterans thing when you don't fucking fund their medical care when they get home, we treat them like shit. And then they go, oh, respect them, though. Look, you're totally right. You're totally right. You're totally right.
Starting point is 00:12:05 That drives me nuts. More in a leadership role or as a, like, respect someone for, like, the way to handle a delicate situation like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Because I think, I mean, ultimately, you do have to be concerned. We've been talking about this with the whole Trump thing.
Starting point is 00:12:19 You don't have to be concerned as much about what Trump's going to be able to do as you do about people that see Trump in office and they get emboldened to be assholes. Oh, yeah. Because I really think that there's some people that are on the fucking fence, the asshole fence. They can go one way or another. Oh, yeah. They might go full asshole now.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Full asshole doors open. Yeah. It's not Trump's fault. It's not Trump's fault. But there's a reality of being the person Who's setting the tone For the way the country thinks of itself Oh absolutely
Starting point is 00:12:49 And here's part of the maybe The positive of having someone like Trump In the presidency This country Racism, being an asshole Treating people like shit That's been part of this country As long as we didn't have a leader that you didn't think
Starting point is 00:13:06 Represented that people were like, oh, okay. We'll just keep it going at this rate Whereas now people like are looking at it Maybe we needed this ugly orange face as the face of things to really be like hey What is going on with the with the xenophobia and the racism and what is what is the deal? Maybe we needed that face Well, it definitely it highlights the fact that it's a giant issue still. So people that don't think it's an issue because they're not seeing it in front of their face, you're forced to look at it now.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Right. It doesn't, you know, this is something that Alonzo Bowden said during the Young Turks coverage of the election that was so on. He goes, not all Trump supporters are racist, but all racists are Trump supporters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's justists are Trump supporters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. That's just, he nailed it.
Starting point is 00:13:51 They're not racist, but he is number one with racists. How many racists are voting for Hillary? I mean, that's just, she ain't getting that vote, you know? It's funny, man. It's funny. No, it's a great point. It's dead on. You got to worry about the tone.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I mean, it sounds ridiculous to someone who's got sovereignty, someone with personal sovereignty, someone who knows who they are and isn't so easily swayed and is like, that's not going to make me an asshole. It probably won't make you an asshole. Right. But there's- There's a guy. Yeah. There's that guy.
Starting point is 00:14:21 There's a bunch of those guys. Yeah. There's a lot of disenfranchised men out there. Well, and this is where I really put it on the mainstream media is they legitimize some of this shit that Trump says or whatever Trump supporters say that is just crackpot nuts. Like when CNN had the Chiron that said, are Jews people? And it's like- What?
Starting point is 00:14:43 Oh, you didn't hear about this? No. It went kind of viral. They were saying, saying hey this crazy white supremacist or maybe there's someone in having something to do with Trump said has in the past questioned whether Jews are people or something so then they run with the Chiron says our Jews people it's like well now this is a legitimate discussion you just made this a legitimate discussion instead yeah instead of just ignoring it instead they're like hey let's have a panel to discuss. Do Jews smell funny?
Starting point is 00:15:06 It's like, you legitimize this shit. If Jews are people. There you go. That's just so fucking stupid. That sounds like if someone gave the news to people in the 1500s. They said, listen, this is a new technology. Imagine if you gave it to people. Our Jews, people, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Death. That's so ridiculous. It's something we should discuss. Let's sit down, talk about this. What kind of people discuss whether or not Jews are people? What else? Was Santa Claus real? Is that next? What about Rudolph? Was he a real character? Is that a mythical creature? Is he an analogy? Is he an allegory? What is he? They gave $5 billion of free coverage to Trump, twice as much as Hillary, in the primaries 23 times as much as Bernie, and they wonder how Trump got elected. They couldn't help themselves. He was a master at
Starting point is 00:15:54 manipulating them in that regard. Always saying controversial things, whether it was on purpose or not. Well, Jesus Christ, God damn it! People could die! Do we have any tells now? Dude, you're the first guest to do that. I'm the first? I've done it God damn it. People could die We have any tails now First guests do that. I'm the first on it. Oh fuck load of times. Yes. I've wrecked at least two laptops on the show live We're good dude. Oh, I just did it. I just did it. Oh my god
Starting point is 00:16:21 What a clusterfuck here ladies and gentlemen at least you know see that's a good That's a good host is you wanted to make me feel better about mine. I really did, and I'm just a slob. Clumsy dork. But we're good. Nothing got zapped. We're good. What were we just talking about? The country, racism.
Starting point is 00:16:35 We were talking about Trump and media, the endless media coverage. Yeah, he did a fucking awesome job. But you know what? There's the possibility. I would like to think that we watched some genius chess play by a master of the media, which he most certainly is, right? I absolutely agree with that. The guy's been on television forever.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I really wonder, do you have thoughts on what he genuinely believes? That's the question. I have no idea. Well, that was my question. I was going to say, do you think that, did we watch a master manipulator, or did he just get lucky that his personality totally works right now? You know, like that everything is lined up for you to be the guy that says, you know, you should grab chicks by the pussy and everybody goes,
Starting point is 00:17:15 ah, that's locker room talk. I think it's a little bit of both. I think it's the perfect time for him combined with great manipulation. Here's the thing. If you didn't have people struggling so hard, if you didn't have this quote-unquote recovery all going to the top 1%, people wouldn't have gotten behind this. You needed a populace that is furious and struggling and miserable
Starting point is 00:17:35 to get behind this. Isn't that weird? A populace that is furious and struggling and miserable wants to get behind a dude who's a billionaire who's probably fucked over a ton of people to get behind a dude who's a billionaire is probably fucked over. A ton of people to get there. I mean, the whole thing is like, I mean, how much tooth, fang, and claw competition and business has that guy been involved in?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Probably a fuckload, right? It sounds like every deal he's ever signed, he reneges on like half of it. He's hilarious. Like when they were talking to him during the debates when Hillary brought up the taxes and him not paying taxes, he goes, it's because I'm smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:08 He got away with it. But you know why he gets away with it? Because he goes, yeah, those laws shouldn't be there. But since they are, I'm not going to not use them. Of course I'm going to use them. He goes, but let's take them out. Let's take those laws out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:19 People wanted someone who just said, fuck this system. Which it's hilarious that you then get behind a billionaire is the guy who's going to say, fuck the system. I know. But he's also a populist. That's what's weird. Like, he likes to be popular, you know? Yeah. And you have a unique opportunity with a guy like him where I don't think he's going to be as influenced by other people as we've had presidents before.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You know, we've had presidents before that get in the office and we're like, oh my God, this guy's not doing anything he said. Right? We don't even have to say who they are, right? Right. Obama. All of them, right? I mean, who doesn't?
Starting point is 00:18:53 All of them. All of them, right? But this is the first time a guy has gotten in that like the party itself doesn't even want him in there. I mean, they were trying to force him out. Like everybody didn't want him in. Everybody was saying there's no way we can let this guy in. No, basically, the Republicans tried to rig their primary to beat Trump and failed.
Starting point is 00:19:12 The Democrats rigged their primary and succeeded. That was the only difference. Yeah, it's fascinating, isn't it? Like, they fucked over that Bernie Sanders guy. Oh, man, on every level. I covered this unredacted, and I, like, endlessly, I just couldn't get enough of it. It was like voter suppression, closing polling places. on every level. I covered this unredacted, and endlessly I just couldn't get enough of it. It was like voter suppression, closing polling places,
Starting point is 00:19:31 exit polls aren't matching up, just media manipulation, 23 times as much coverage, like I was saying, for Trump, and 10 times as much coverage for Hillary as Bernie Sanders. It was just like on every level they tried to force through their candidate. He would have been great. Yeah? I think Bernie would have been really interesting. I think Bernie running against Trump would have been way less vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:19:50 He had way less skeletons in the closet. He was pretty much an open book. He also didn't... He had immense, compared to Hillary, immense favorability numbers, whereas Hillary just had crazy unfavorability numbers. Well, he represented character to us.
Starting point is 00:20:06 30, 40 years of saying the same stuff, whereas Hillary, from week to week, you didn't know what she stood for. Yeah, and even the way he looks. You know? Like, he represents character. He represents this disheveled, really smart guy with his glasses and his jacket, and he's not trying to look good at all. He doesn't have any orange makeup on on he's like really the polar opposite of Trump I would love a guy that cares more about getting shit done than his hair I would love that well he also seems to care about people whether you agree with
Starting point is 00:20:36 him or not I think that guy genuinely cares about people hopefully I'm not getting bullshitted you know because he is a politician here's how you know a little something is you don't spend 30 years in government and not get rich unless you've got other goals. Yeah. It's like everybody who's been in Congress that long is a multimillionaire. He's not. Well, he's from Vermont, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Dude, they're all hippies up there. They're all hippies and farmers. Vermont is weird. I had Ben Cohen on a bunch. Ben and Jerry, they're in Vermont too. Dude, it's so weird. It's great. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:21:08 It is a great place. Like, Burlington, that place is amazing. I did a gig up there once. I was like, wow, this is like a little frozen paradise up here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, this little small, cool town of, like, hippie people. And they always go against whatever's going on around them. How do you get, like, a group?
Starting point is 00:21:24 It has to be a university town. It's the only way you get a group of liberals in a mountain, right? Well, yeah. And then, I mean, I guess there's universities there, too. But in some of these southern towns, it's just like they all flee to one city. It's like Asheville, North Carolina. Right. It's like, we've got to get together.
Starting point is 00:21:40 But that's the university, too. That's where Duncan went to school. Yeah, yeah. Asheville's amazing. I love it, yeah. It's amazing Duncan went to school. Yeah, yeah. Asheville's amazing. I love it, yeah. It's amazing. It's such a great little town. The best.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And the people are so cool. It's like, you guys are like, if you took 30,000 of the best people from Austin and brought them to North Carolina, that's what Asheville is. It's like, what are you guys doing here? This is weird. Really cool bars, and everybody walks around. I played there like six months ago and I told them, I was like, you guys should build a wall
Starting point is 00:22:09 around this city. Because it's great here. Yeah, that's the area outside of it. It's very strange. There's still parts of this country that haven't recovered from the Civil War. It really is. That's not a joke. No, I know, I know. There's parts of this country
Starting point is 00:22:25 where you're driving through and you'll run into small towns that still have, like, the vague echoes of the Civil War. Dude, I grew up in that. Richmond, Virginia. I'm named after Robert E. Lee. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Are you really? Yeah. My high school was the Confederate Rebels. Holy shit. Mascot. Did you guys have a rebel flag? Rebel flag.
Starting point is 00:22:44 We had a rebel flag the first year it was there. Then they finally decided that it was offensive. So they took away the flag, but kept the Rebel soldier as the mascot. Oh, my God. Wow. Dude, are you drinking whiskey? What is that? It's just water.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's water in, like, a flask? Yep. What are they doing? Are they trying to get crafty? They're getting crafty. So it's Fred. My name is Fred. Drink my water.
Starting point is 00:23:04 It came off my breast. What is Fred water? That's Fred water So it's Fred. My name is Fred. Drink my water. It came off my breast. What is Fred water? That's Fred water? That's how you advertise a drink now. You just change the shape of the bottle. Yeah, he made it.
Starting point is 00:23:11 He made me talk about it. Why is his name on the front of the bottle? Isn't that water? Shouldn't it just say water you fuck? Why does it say Fred? Fred is in giant letters
Starting point is 00:23:19 and underneath it in tiny letters it says water. Look at that. That's ridiculous, Fred. But you got me. Here I am. I'm talking about it. You won. He won. That's all I'm asking. Fred won. Were you surprised when they pulled the Confederate flag off the General Lee? Did that freak you
Starting point is 00:23:34 out? Off the General Lee? Yeah. Dude, I had the Dukes of Hazzard bed sheets. I think I had the poster. Dukes of Hazzard bed sheets. When they pulled that off TV land, I was like, whoa. Dude, it is a different history. Growing up in Richmond, Virginia, I was 12 before anyone mentioned we lost the Civil War. I was like, wait, we didn't win? So you knew there was a Civil War, but you didn't know that the South lost?
Starting point is 00:23:58 No, I just, yeah. Because it's talked about almost like a victory, because they talk about it like, oh, the Grand All Times, the Civil War, and stuff like that. Do they really? Yeah, and I was like a victory, because they talk about it like, oh, the grand old times of Civil War and stuff like that. Do they really? Yeah. And I was like, wait, we lost? What?
Starting point is 00:24:11 All the Monument Avenue in Richmond, Virginia is basically all Civil War, quote unquote, heroes, meaning the losers. Wow. It's crazy that that was so recent, that 1865 was so recent. Dude, 100 years ago, there was slavery. Pretty much. Pretty close. 1916.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I mean, there's probably a lot. Well, there's slavery now. It's not been that long. Well, yeah. There is slavery. That's the craziest thing. There's not slavery now necessarily in America, but there's more slaves in the world now because there's more people in the world.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Well, also, there are more black people in prison right now than there were slaves during the Civil War. We imprisoned so many people, and those people are largely, a lot of them, are forced to labor for like a nickel an hour or whatever. Because we have a stipulation in the Constitution that you can have slavery as long as they're in prison. Yeah, we've been talking about that a lot. There's apparently this documentary about that on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:25:05 13th. Did you see it? Yeah. How a lot. There's apparently this documentary about that on Netflix. 13th. Did you see it? Yeah. How is it? It's great. I keep hearing it. I get real close to it and I go, God damn it, I haven't caught up on Narcos.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yeah, yeah. I'd like to find out about real shit. I got like one episode left of Narcos. I need to be entertained. I want to watch Westworld. Sorry. It's not looking good for Escobar. It's not looking good, man.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I'm worried what's going to happen. I'm worried too, but he is the star of the show, so hopefully he'll pull through. How are you going to have a new season? It just seems like he's digging a hole for himself that he's just not going to come out of. He should start treating people better. I mean, you keep killing people, eventually someone's going to kill you. I mean, that's just what I think.
Starting point is 00:25:38 If he just said thank you a little more, please and thank you. It is absolutely insane that you can have um a minimum wage except when you've trapped someone yeah for a crime then not only do they have to pay for that crime by being incarcerated but then they have to work and make pennies dude it is such a it's such a game like another great book by taibbi is the divide talks about this it's like it's like matt taibbi is The Divide talks about this. It's like... Matt Taibbi's book? Matt Taibbi. Love that guy. The cops just run around, look for mostly black people
Starting point is 00:26:09 standing on the corner, sometimes in front of their own apartment, charge them for loitering or something, and then they take a plea deal because they're told like, hey, do you want months of a trial where you could spend a year in jail or do you want to take this plea jail
Starting point is 00:26:21 and just have a tiny charge? And so they all take the plea jail. So now they're in the system and it's just designed. It's just railroading This is so crazy. It's so crazy that people have made an industry off of Like there's money to be made from keeping people locked up. It's just the way that we've allowed that to happen It's so shameful Because it's sort of just everybody sort of woke up as adults and was like, what? How many private prisons are there?
Starting point is 00:26:48 Wait a minute, how many people are in jail? Wait a minute, what percentage of who or what? We're 5% of the world's population, 25% of the world's prisoners. We have way more prisoners than any country. God, and it's all like it's going on without us looking, you know? I mean, because not obviously for violent crimes, but let's just talk about the non-violent ones yeah if isn't that like 50 yeah it's a huge most people in prison are non-violent so 50 of them are locked up in jail for something non-violent and then what percentage those are drugs i don't know but it's yeah it's a lot a lot of this has to do with
Starting point is 00:27:20 a lot of this has to do with the drug war. Yeah. I mean, I think like theft and obviously all the violent crimes, but all those things, that sort of rationalizes you need some sort of punishment. But has anybody ever even proven that prison is effective? No, it's not at all. Because here's the thing. It destroys most people's lives. They can't get a job when they get out. Their family's been broken up.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Their community's been broken up. So it's like you get out, and then how do you put things together so it it doesn't help people it doesn't help them get to a regular you know upstanding citizen level a lot of people it institutionalizes yeah yeah if you're in long enough yeah so but here's the thing the big question is like what what could be done that's better what does that say jamie what you're putting up well first of all if it's a non-violent you know i think you shouldn't you shouldn't be in jail yeah that one's sticking out what do you think it is um what different offenses is that what it is oh that's is that drugs yeah those are drug charges well so the tall one giant one is a
Starting point is 00:28:19 drug charges oh my god see that's crazy 46 oh See, that's crazy. 46%. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Look at those numbers. The only thing, scroll down a little more. Yeah, the only thing even above 10% is drugs. Okay, and weapons. Look, here's the thing. You're not stopping people from selling drugs, obviously.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Plus, there's a bunch of other drugs that are available legally with prescriptions. You need to stop this illegal drug thing. You need to stop telling grown adults what they can or can't do. Keep it away from children. Make strict laws about the age restrictions. Put a lot of money into education. And stop putting people in fucking cages for doing things they want to do, like coke. If somebody wants to do coke, let them go do coke.
Starting point is 00:29:05 What do you give a fuck? They can go drink whiskey until they die, and everybody's fine with that. And then people go, oh, well, they do coke and they commit crimes. Well, then arrest them for the crimes. Exactly. You don't arrest them for the coke. Alcohol is a huge factor in crimes. I mean, how many people have committed horrible crimes because they've been drunk?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah. And fights and beating the shit out of people. That's all alcohol. I was around a gang of drunk people last night. Stone sober. It's not a good time. Not a good time. Not a good time.
Starting point is 00:29:34 People, they get fucking crazy. Especially, I would hate to be a woman. At a bar. Oh, yeah. Fucking sleazeballs. And here's the thing. I love drinking. I love my whiskey. I'm a fucking big fan.
Starting point is 00:29:48 But if you can't handle it... You want a drink right now? No, I gotta drive. Pussy! I gotta drive somewhere. Have a little drinky-poo. Just one little sip of the good stuff. We got a little bit of Jack Daniels for you here. Yeah, man. Booze is a sketchy drug. Because I enjoy it. I like it. But, ooh, booze is a sketchy drug because I enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I like it. But ooh, is it for everybody? It's like there's a lot of things like that, though. How come you can just go to a Chevrolet dealership and buy a Corvette? Do you know how to drive that thing? You know how to drive. I know you know how to hit your blinker. You know how to handle a 600-horsepower fucking demon ride?
Starting point is 00:30:24 You can just buy that These cars today because the horsepower Wars every year. They're ramping up their speed the ramping up their handling They're ramping up the the braking like the distance between you know like zero to sixty braking or sixty to zero Those things are supercars now and any regular kid if you have enough money They're like what was the Corvette like fifty thousand or sixty thousand dollars if you can you money, what's the core of it, like $50,000 or $60,000? If you can get that money together somehow and get that loan, you can have something that's insane. Right. You can just drive right into people and kill people. Like the responsibility, like having a big giant truck, the responsibility of driving that thing.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Like all those things are dangerous. Yeah. And we allow people to do it. And I mean, yeah, we, we accept that there is a certain level of harm or death for things that we want as freedoms. And that should be, that should go through a lot of things. It should go through with drugs. It's like, there's a certain level of harm or death people might do to themselves. And they start doing it to others. We arrest them for that. One of the things I was thinking of when I brought up the, uh, the car thing. So I wanted to ask you how you feel about this oncoming onset of autonomous cars.
Starting point is 00:31:29 That's happening, man. So here, I talked about this last night in my stand-up. So Uber has now put self-driving cars in Pittsburgh. They're trying it out. And this is a massive employer in our country is transportation. It's huge. And those are going away. Those jobs are going to go away soon.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And I think that's fine because what that should do, if we were fucking rational beings, is that time and money savings should go to people. It should go to all of us. If we hate our job, we should be working less because technology can handle it now.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Instead, everybody's just working their goddamn asses off at jobs they hate because all of that time and savings is going to the elites that run these corporations. It's not going to the people. People are working themselves to death to feed a family. It's completely nonsense. But how does that have to do with the Uber thing, though? Well, because transportation is a major employer in this country.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Isn't it like 40-something percent of all white men over a certain age work in some sort of an industry where they drive a vehicle? I am not sure. I made that up. How about that? How about that? I made that up. I'll use your made-up facts. Yeah, just say, according to Joe Rogan, people will go, oh.
Starting point is 00:32:41 They'll just raise their eyebrows. Oh, the Fear Factor guy has got opinions on driving. But no, I think self-driving cars should be great. They're going to get better and better. Right. But when you say that the money is going away, it's not really, right? Because someone has to make those cars. Someone has to maintain those cars.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Someone has to run the Uber software. It's just the driver aspect of it is going away. The human labor part is going away. Right. that we're making all those cars to begin with right but but if it's way safer and People's lives are saved over people having jobs that are not like a lot of fun anyway Like shouldn't that person like for technological progress when you look at the future of our culture. Yeah As much as I love automobiles i love them i love engineering i'm a giant fan of auto engineering but they're going to go away we're going to have autonomous vehicles it's going to happen just like everybody
Starting point is 00:33:36 has a cell phone it's almost you can't find it the hard thing is going to be getting a license to drive a car on your own without any sort of electronic control. That would be sad. I didn't even think of that. It's going to happen, man. You're going to have to have a, like if you have an old Corvette or something like that, you're going to have to have a license to drive that old Corvette with your shitty ass drum brakes and skinny fucked up tires.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And people like to think, oh no, the autonomous thing won't happen because, you know, an autonomous car will kill someone. And then it's like, well, yeah, but they don't need to be better. They don't need to be the best ever. They just need to be better than humans. And they're going to be better than humans quickly. Yeah, like they're going to be instantly better than humans. And by the way, with all those sensors that they could put on those things,
Starting point is 00:34:15 have you ever seen how they respond? They're really good at responding to like cars swerving at them. They hit the brakes. And if they're all doing that, as long as the code is good and the machinery is good and nothing gets fucked up that's the the big thing if it gets fucked up will it have enough checkpoints like to will it have to be able to do an assessment of itself and know whether or not it should be driving although here's here's the big question is it'll take it'll inch it'll eventually get to a point where it's taking away our freedom in a lot of ways because these things
Starting point is 00:34:43 are going to drive the speed limit and it's going to drive us fucking nuts. That's true. That's true. You're going to be sitting there and it's going to become illegal to go above the speed limit because self-driving cars will go the speed limit. Yeah, you're going to have to follow the rules. It's going to be awful. We'll just have to find some Russian dude who knows a guy with a chip.
Starting point is 00:35:00 He's going to hot rod out your shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got one of those. I got one of the bots that breaks the shit. I got one of the bots that breaks the law. I got one of the criminal bots. I mean, but if we're going to progress and go from here to some new state of technological excellence, which we undoubtedly will if we stay alive, right? I mean, every civilization, every culture in this country, as far as we've been measuring it,
Starting point is 00:35:22 just keeps getting better and better and better at figuring things out. More and more efficient. Although we're polluting more and damaging the earth more, our capabilities keep getting more and more powerful. There's going to come a point in time, I think, where it was inevitable that people had to stop powering machines with their hands. We should probably get out of that as quick as we can
Starting point is 00:35:42 and concentrate on using our brains. The idea that the person who drives the car Could only drive the car That's kind of crazy because I used to drive cars Did you ever drive cars before? I drove limos So I used to drive and deliver newspapers So I've been in driving jobs And I can do other stuff
Starting point is 00:35:57 People can do other stuff You can find another thing that you like to do It's not like this guy lost his job The only way he feeds his family. Okay, I feel terrible that you lost your job. I feel terrible that anybody loses their job and they have a hard time feeding their family. But when you're talking about a job, I know it's hard to get jobs, but people lose and gain jobs all the time. It does happen.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And you've got to find one that's better than this one. Right. I mean, I agree, but for one thing, not everyone is smart enough to get a really intelligent job. There's a lot of dummies. We fixed that with Alex Jones' genius pills from the CIA
Starting point is 00:36:37 basement. Luther Vandross got a hold of these in 1984. There was a period of six months where he didn't sing because they had him locked up in the basement of the dungeon in Virginia. Colloidal silver will fix you. Did you ever see that dude
Starting point is 00:36:54 who drank too much colloidal silver and he turned blue? Oh, yeah. I did see the blue guy. And he died. Well, he died, but he was old. He didn't die from being blue? I don't think so. Maybe he might have. Maybe I'm wrong. I but he was old. Oh. Like, he died just from being old. He didn't die from being blue? I don't think so. Maybe he might have.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I don't think. Maybe I'm wrong. I think he just died. I'm waiting for one day for Alex Jones to go, guys, I need to tell you, I don't have the papers. I don't have the documents. I've got the documents. I've been lying the whole time.
Starting point is 00:37:18 They're right here. I don't have. I lost the documents. I lost. I had them. I spilled coffee on them. But he had some documents. That's the fucking problem.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Did you ever see? He had a documentary. One of them really opened my eyes. It was 9-1-1 Road to Tyranny. And it was another typical Alex Jones. You know, he's talking about the demise of civilization and all these different things. But then he goes into the WTO and the WTO protests. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:48 And this is where it got really crazy. Yeah. And he showed that all of these anarchists came in. There's all these peaceful protesters. And then all these anarchists came in with ski masks on and government-issue boots, and started smashing everything. They're literally wearing military-issue boots. They start knocking over newspaper dispensers and smashing car windows and storefronts and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:38:14 So then the cops move in. So the cops have to move in. So then these guys get ramped up into some building. They get cornered in some building. They negotiate their release, and then they're released without charges. Oh, yeah, the Provocateur thing. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:38:27 That shit happens all the time. I mean, at the end of Occupy, it's like half of those camps were infiltrated cops. Like, we're just plainclothes cops. Well, here's what they did with Seattle. Was it Seattle, the WTO? Yeah, yeah, Seattle. They made people take off. They had badges.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Like, if someone had a pin that they were wearing that had a WTO with a red line through it. They said this is a no protest zone. You can't get through this zone with any form of protest. So even a pin that says WTO with a red line through it, they were telling people you can't get
Starting point is 00:39:00 to your job with that pin on. You gotta be in the freedom of speech zone. We've fenced off four feet. That's the freedom of speech zone. We've fenced off four feet. That's the freedom of speech zone. Dude, that's what's happening in Standing Rock right now. Have you talked about Standing Rock on here? No, I haven't. We've talked about it very briefly because I've been trying to pay attention to it.
Starting point is 00:39:14 It's getting crazy out there. Look at it from both sides. This group, Standing Rock, the Standing Rock Sioux, they don't want an oil pipeline through their fucking water supply. That should be their right. And instead, it's this corporation. It's just plowing through their sacred land. And, you know, the cops, a girl had her arm nearly blown off.
Starting point is 00:39:34 They didn't quite have to amputate with a concussion grenade by the cops. I heard that. And then the conspiracy theory online was that it wasn't a concussion grenade, that it was something that they had launched, and then it went bad because there was more than one propane tank grenade or some shit. I haven't read that. Jamie, see if you can find out. Get to the bottom of it, Jamie. But yeah, I saw them spraying water on the protesters.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It was like 40 degrees out, and they're hosing these people down with water. It was 23 degrees. It was sub-freezing temperatures. Was it really? Yeah, and they're hosing them in water. And now, this is the best part on top of that, the governor signed a mandatory eviction thing for all of them, saying it's because of cold temperatures and we're worried about your safety. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah, we're real worried about it. We're going to hit you with concussion grenades because we're worried about your safety. People are getting jacked by those rubber bullets, too. Rubber bullets can take an eye out, folks. Those things are no joke. They can fucking hurt you bad, too. I know a girl who lost an eye to a, they shot a tear gas canister that hit her in the eye.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Oh, my God. Yeah, no, these less than lethal rounds can fucking do some damage. You can't just, that's like really weak assault. That's like going up to someone. You say you didn't start a fight, but you start spitting at them and slapping them you know like you're not trying to kill them but you're definitely hurting them like what do you do what the fuck are you doing and they're going after reporters this girl uh aaron schroed she's been on abc as a
Starting point is 00:40:58 as a commentator and stuff she was down there there's video of her uh viral video of her where she's interviewing a guy as she's interviewing she gets shot by a sniper with a rubber bullet. Yeah, for doing nothing. For just interviewing her. Yeah, I've seen that. Jamie, have you seen that? It's incredible. She's just sitting there talking to somebody, and she gets shot.
Starting point is 00:41:18 It's nuts. It's nuts. They just fucking... Yeah. They just take pot shots at you. Yeah, man. And it also creates this us versus them environment where these guys who are hired to be the cops that get rid of the protesters, those are just regular people.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And they've been given orders to get rid of these protesters. And then the protesters become the enemy. And it becomes an us versus them scenario, which we're so accustomed to. And a lot of them are coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan, and they're used to war zones, and there shouldn't be a war zone. There should be peaceful protesters, which it is. Exactly. I don't know what the answer is to something like that.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I don't know how you stop what's already been done, and I don't know how you ever got permission to go through somebody's land. If land is public, okay, that's one thing. If you want to have a debate on whether or not we could do what we could do with our own national public lands, I'm against that. I'm against, I think we fucked up so much of this country as it is. Let's stop. Let's not do any more of that.
Starting point is 00:42:20 But if that's private land, if it's private land, they own the land. Do they have a treaty? It's their land? Yeah, it's their land. The rancher own the land too, right? It's private land, if it's private land, they own the land. Do they have a treaty? It's their land? Yeah, it's their land. There's a rancher on the land too, right? It's their land. No, yeah. The rancher? They're going through a rancher's land too? There's another woman in Iowa, same pipeline though, Dakota Access. Cindy Coppola, she's a farmer. She's not Native American. She's a white woman, farmer
Starting point is 00:42:40 in Iowa. They're coming through her own farm. They arrested her for getting in their way. Yeah, they said they had to have access. And so they made some sort of an easement, right? They just, yeah. They're coming through her own farm. They arrested her for getting in their way. Yeah, they said they had to have access. And so they made some sort of an easement, right? They just decide. They go into the city council and they get something passed and it's eminent domain and they just take the land.
Starting point is 00:42:55 See, that's what the problem is, folks. This is a company. This is not the United States government safety commission that needs this oil to protect us from impending invaders. There's nothing in your best interest about this. This is all money. They're not going to give you free oil because they got that oil through you.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Most of it's shipped overseas. It doesn't even go to us. Billions of dollars in profit. That's the darkness of this, is that they're going through land that's not theirs, and they think they just can because they want oil. I've seen people argue that, oh, this is exaggerated or that's exaggerated, but here's the cold fact that you can't ignore. They're going through somebody else's land against their will.
Starting point is 00:43:33 So either it's their land or it's not their land. So it's their land. Do they have a treaty? Yes. Does this guy have a ranch? Yes. Does he own it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Stop. Yeah. You're the government? Right. You know what that means? You're people. People can't go through other people's fucking ground because they think they want to. Right. You can't just do that. The idea, the hypothetical idea is that we elected these people to do our bidding, not
Starting point is 00:43:58 to do the corporation's bidding, whatever the fuck they want to make profit. Yeah. Whether you're left wing or right wing, that's the most insane proposition is giving the government that kind of power to just go through private land and pump an oil pipeline under a fucking river. Like, what? And that's where mostly the left and right come together. It's like libertarians, the left, nobody wants to just be like, oh yeah, you can just plow
Starting point is 00:44:21 through someone's land whether they want it or not. And it's inconvenient for people to poo-poo because it's not your land. But if it was your land, what if you had this bitching stream in your backyard and you used to like to catch trout in it and you're like, God damn it, baby, we found the perfect spot to build a house. And you set up and everything's good. And then one day you go out and the fish are fucking belly up and the water's rainbow-hued because it's filled with oil.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And you're like, oh no, the pipeline's leaking. Yeah. That pipe under your house that they forced you to have, now it's leaking. They're going through the Missouri River and it's the drinking water for 18 million people. And that's what they're fighting against. Dude, I know a guy who had bone cancer and his entire neighborhood had cancer. Yeah. Because they lived next to a golf course.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And the golf course, the water from all the pesticides, it was getting into the groundwater and they were drinking out of well water. These people got jacked. Yeah, that's where you really see it. There was a whole neighborhood in Greenpoint, Brooklyn that had brain tumors and stuff because there was oil spill underneath
Starting point is 00:45:20 the streets. It's crazy. Jesus, Jamie! He just did it too! Three! Unprecedented! Three and one! Unprecedented!
Starting point is 00:45:31 Three spills. Jamie, what have you done? What have you done to Jamie? Did you come in here with a spell? Is there some sort of magic you have, Lee Camp? Some sort of lefty magic? You gotta dump water all over control panels. Man, it just makes me sad. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Police blame Walansky's injury on protesters. While we could not reach law enforcement, Morton County Sheriff's Department released a statement on Facebook on the 23rd of November 2016 saying the injury was caused by an exploding propane canister that protesters were handling. They later removed the post. But Wayne Walansky told us the statement was false. Safiya had no burns on her.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And while a major portion of her lower arm was blown out, oh, my God, her hand was still attached by the ulna bone, making the claim that she was a victim of a fire explosion seem unlikely. He said she was totally lucid after being injured and recounted being struck by a grenade-like object that exploded on contact with her arm. So it's a flash grenade. It's a flash grenade, yeah. Okay, so the other thing was the wrong,
Starting point is 00:46:32 well, when crazy things like this happen, there's always a lot of stories floating around. It's hard to figure out what is what. Oh, there's some viral post that everyone's sending me of a woman, a Native American woman, saying they're dumping chemicals on the protesters, and yet if you talk to anybody else, it's not true or it doesn't seem verified, and yet it's so viral.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Everybody's emailing me this post of them dumping chemicals on protesters. Yeah, well, that's what people do. Did you see the, I think it was, I forget whether one of the online magazines, caught up with a guy who creates fake news stories, and they asked him why he did it. It it's really interesting it was on dig the other day clicks well not just that it was also he is um he's actually a democrat the guy who did it who they interviewed and they said that he was trying to expose how vulnerable the right is in particular to really obviously fake stories so he'd make these really obviously fake stories that anybody could like
Starting point is 00:47:29 There was one about the Pope endorsing Trump In the right what was one of them about a paid protester how much protesters getting like they're you know These protests are getting $300 an hour or something like just ridiculous shit And then these fucking people ran with it. George Soros is paying those protesters. You know, as if all these protesters... Soros is giving free hand jobs to every protester. Dude, I was in New York for the protest.
Starting point is 00:47:54 It was fascinating. It was really... Which one? Which protest? Right after Trump won. Oh. It seemed like so much weird energy. So much, like, chaotic, lost energy. Like, to see the streets filled with people, I was like, wow, this is bananas. They closed down streets. They closed down entire streets with hundreds of thousands of people.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Maybe even millions. Just walking down the streets, screaming out slogans. My point is, yeah, they should be furious, but they should have been furious five years ago. Why wait until this? Because we have bills, bro. We have shit to think about. We've got problems. My bowling game's down.
Starting point is 00:48:34 My bowling game's down. Dude, Westworld is good. Westworld is good. My kids keep flunking school. People have all sorts of things to worry about. No, I know. They've got shit to do. They've got shit to do.
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's why I think just even the idea of a person being president is fucking ridiculous. Like, how is this guy going to run the world? Does he have a life? He has an actual life? He has family? Doesn't he play golf? Doesn't he have, like, things he likes to do? Does he read?
Starting point is 00:48:57 How the fuck does this guy got time to do all that stuff? Hey, Bush had time to take more vacation days than anyone had ever taken. Probably a good move. Probably good. It's probably good. I mean, we all knew that Dick Cheney than anyone had ever taken. Probably a good move. It's probably good. It's probably good. I mean, we all knew that Dick Cheney was running the show anyway. Yeah, I know. We think we did.
Starting point is 00:49:10 But no, we've given increasing power to the president. When the president was supposed to be one of three factors going on, and now we just keep feeding more and more power to the president. And that's the thing. People that like Obama, it's like he did not give away any power that no president gives away any power they've gotten. So they just keep gaining and gaining power. Yeah. Well, that was the big question when the NDAA was proposed.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Remember that? Yeah. They said, what happens if Obama is a very reasonable guy? Most likely he won't use indefinite detention. Right. But what if you get some new president and it's crazy? Right. And then look what happens. Right. But what if you get some new president and it's crazy? Right. And then look what happens.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yeah. There you are. Here you are. Here, let me give you a dictator's toolkit, the largest surveillance infrastructure ever. Let me give you the right to lock up journalists without a trial or charges. Let me give you the right to drone bomb Americans. An American was executed in drone bombings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:04 As long as it's not over here. Yeah. As long as it's not over here. As long as it's not in our patch of dirt, we're cool with you killing Americans with flying robots. With no trial. No trial, yeah. What was he? Was he an Al-Qaeda guy? Was he ISIS?
Starting point is 00:50:17 He joined ISIS or something? Here's the thing. And I don't want to say the names because I'll get them wrong, but his father was preaching terrorism, so they executed him. And then they executed his 16-year-old son. Nowhere near him. They just took out the son. They just decided the son was too risky?
Starting point is 00:50:32 They were like, eh, why not? Whoa, that's some Game of Thrones shit. Yeah, yeah. Isn't it? That is, right? That's some Game of Thrones type shit. You got to kill the son. And literally when they were finally answered as to why they had executed the son,
Starting point is 00:50:44 one of the press secretaries goes, well, you know, he shouldn't have had a father like that. Whoa. Can you imagine if everyone were responsible for what their father did? Jesus. Ooh. Imagine if every father was responsible for what their kid did. Exactly. My argument has always been, how come if your dog bites someone, you can get sued?
Starting point is 00:51:03 If your kid shoots up a post office, you're not liable. You know? Like, up to a certain age, you should be liable for your kids. Like, 23. You want to go that far? Yeah. 23. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:17 You'll really work hard at doing a good job. Make sure you don't unleash that little monster in the world, so we have to deal with it. Listen, you dropped him 12 times and fed him mac and cheese all his life. Yeah, you fucked him. How about that? You fucked him. Yeah, I mean, how many people are out there fucking their kids? It happens.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yeah. There's a lot of monsters out there, man. People need hotter pets and then they leave their kids alone. Hotter pets? I'm just kidding. What? Is that a bestiality joke? Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:44 What the fuck, Lee Camp camp i've gone off the rail i was gonna say something i caught you totally derailed me that'll frighten your brain right there yeah um not that i really think that people should be responsible for their kids it's just it's odd what we are and aren't responsible it's just amazing how easy it is to just have a kid and then just do a shitty job raising it. You should have to have a license to pump out these fleshy idiots into the world. Well, it's not that you want to stop anybody from doing it because who are you to tell...
Starting point is 00:52:13 I mean, somebody might want to tell you that Lee Camp and all this bullshit about the elites. You think that fucking asshole should have a kid? Yeah, he's going to have a kid. That little lefty fucking kid's going to go to school with my kid and they're going to argue about some shit that I know is wrong. I mean, they're going to decide that you shouldn't have a kid that little lefty fucking kid's gonna go to school with my kid and they're gonna argue about some shit that i know is wrong i mean they're gonna decide that you shouldn't have a kid so who the fuck you know there's a lot of people way fucking smarter than me and it became an argument between who gets to breed me or them they're gonna win but i like having kids
Starting point is 00:52:37 so what the fuck i agree how many kids you got i have three okay i had to think about it for a second i thought when you said i like having kids thought we were going to hear like seven or something. No, I think about it because we were talking to John Jones yesterday, and he's got four. I left, I was like, God damn, he's got four kids already? He's trying for a boy? But my point being, it's an uber complicated experience to just hand off to everybody. And the outcome is a developed human being. So we're counting on everybody
Starting point is 00:53:06 to do a good job developing us well listen the beginning of idiocracy is the truest thing that's ever been created do you remember that movie i never saw it i never saw it i have a bit apparently that's extremely similar to the premise of it oh really came out before the movie on showtime luckily so it's documented Dude, that movie was so prescient. They fucking knew what was going to happen. At the very beginning of the movie is just, it's just two, they just show a split screen of a really
Starting point is 00:53:34 dumb idiot couple, you know, maybe rednecks, but just like, they're fucking morons. They clearly don't know what the fuck's going on, and they're just pumping out kids. They're just fucking dozens of kids. And then they show these, you know, little liberal elite couple living in, you know, their brownstone in New York, deciding whether to have a child. And each year goes by and they're like, you know, we decided not to yet.
Starting point is 00:53:55 We'll do it soon. And they never have the kid. And meanwhile, the rednecks have pumped out 42 kids. And it's like, well, there's your world. That is what happens. People that are career oriented, especially if the, you know, the husband and the wife can't decide who's going to stay home with the kid. If they, they're both career oriented, it becomes a thing like, hey, let's wait until
Starting point is 00:54:14 we're 36. Hey, let's wait until we're 42. Hey, let's freeze my eggs. You know, hey, let's, you know, and the next thing you know, you adopt. I think you should be allowed to freeze a kid at least, you know, up to five. Adopting, you know, is a great idea, and it's awesome that a lot of people do it, but people want their own kids, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:33 That's the other weird thing about it, about DNA. It's like you want your own DNA. Get the DNA pumped out. Look at my boy. That's my boy. I look at you, son. You came right out of my own body. I'm here to teach you the way, the way of the man.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Yeah, it's a very odd thing that we do it so often, though. You know, like even me, I'm guilty. I told you, I've got three of them. But I look around, there's seven billion people on this planet. I'm like, man, maybe we've got too many people. Do you sit down with the kids and talk to them about it? Or, hey, guys, let's just all of us hang together. You don't need your own kids.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Come on. Come on. I had you. Get a dog. Get a nice dog. Get a nice little dog. That's a shitload of people. That's the thing is America, we are way outnumbered.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Oh, yeah, way outnumbered compared to the rest of the world. You know, India. Well, that's the cool thing about America when you fly over. Like if the shit gets really bad, we have so many places to expand. We have so many new subdivisions we could open up in the middle of nowhere. Like, when you're flying over and you see nothing but, like, empty space. Like, oh, we could fucking just live here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah. Lots of room. There's plenty of space. We just got to settle down on the breeding. You think about that when you're sitting in L.A. traffic. You're like, you know know what space there is out there Why are we all in four feet and LA traffic is nothing right worldwide like I've been to Mexico City Mexico City Like stoplights aren't even a suggestion. They're just bullshit. Nobody's paying attention to anything
Starting point is 00:55:58 Well, there's it's a perpetual traffic jam and people just weaseling left and right and like in trying to merge into the stream of perpetual gridlock they just go for it they just go for it and all of a sudden they're in the middle and they go for it no one's letting anybody in you got to catch people that are sleeping or you just got to be really rude about it and do you think people people the people in mexico city would just like that initially or do you think that came from like no cop wants to pull someone over because they don't want to get shot. I think it's the population. It's too high. It's just too high. Mexico City has an incredible population.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I think it's the number one city in the world. Is Mexico City number one? Tokyo, I think. Tokyo is number one? 35 million in Tokyo. Whoa. Really? 35 million? Dude, in Tokyo they have people whose job it is to cram people onto the subways.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I've seen that. I've seen that with the guys. Just elbow the people onto the subways. I've seen that. It's insane. I've seen that where the guys just elbow the people onto the subways. Yeah, how about that? 35 million people and the ground moves every couple of years. Yeah, yeah. Good luck. Yeah, have fun.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Stay together. Keep it together, people. But that's interesting. 37 million. Oh, my God. 37,800,000 in Tokyo. Holy shit. So that's number one.
Starting point is 00:57:02 And how many in Mexico City? Probably not nearly as many as that. I want to say 30. 21. We'll go with 30. Let's go with the Joe Rogan. 30 sounds better. Let's go with the Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It sounded better when I said 30. Either way, it's a totally congested city. It's completely jammed up with people. But LA is on the way to that. It's on its way. If it's not going to get there tomorrow, it'll get there in 20 years. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:31 We should all go live out in the middle of nowhere. The problem is this is a really good spot. You know what else? Speaking of how open the country is, is people fucking are buying up all the land. Like the Scientologists own all the land. Who is it? Ted Turner, the guy who created CNN. He owns enough land in America that it's equivalent to the size of Delaware.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Whoa. Yeah. He's balling out of control. People buy up all the land. He got rid of Jane Fonda because she became Christian. Is that true? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Definitely. There's probably other factors. I mean, I'm just saying it because it's a good soundbite. And that's what I read online. She was great in New York. Who the fuck knows? I mean, maybe they just stopped liking each other. Maybe. mean, I'm just saying it because it's a good sound bite. That's what I read online She was great news. Who the fuck knows. I mean, maybe they just stopped liking each other. Maybe what do I know? What do I give a fuck? But I just thought it was fascinating that she became a Christian like really late in life He's like check yeah, no, I'd be the same way you can't show up Christian at my door Come on, but if you're dating a girl and she was like super cool
Starting point is 00:58:21 But she got into yoga and then she got into deities then she got into the writings of Christ Came home one day and she's like super cool. But she got into yoga, and then she got into deities, and then she got into the writings of Christ. You came home one day, and she's reading the Bible. You're like, what are you doing? It's just an interesting book. Yeah. Just an amazing book. Well, I picked up this novel, and I decided I'm going to live my life by it. Turner Ranch, Ted Turner's.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Weird FAQ. I'll keep saying Mr. Turner this, Mr. Turner that. What did you say? Oh, frequently asked questions. How large are Mr. Turner's, Mr. Turner that. Would you say, oh, frequently asked questions? How large are Mr. Turner's land holdings? Mr. Turner is the second largest individual landowner in North America with approximately, oh my God, approximately 2 million acres of personal and ranch land in the 12 U.S. states and Argentina. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Argentina. So now look up how many million acres is Delaware. And we'll see whether I'm making my shit up, whether I have it right. There's something weird about owning a ranch in Argentina. What's going on, bro? You have a branch here, you have two million acres here, and you've got a ranch in Argentina.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Are you going to live forever? What's happening, sir? Well, yeah. Well, you get to the brain in the jar. Him and the Koch brothers are going to have their brains in jars running the big, almost twice the size of Delaware. Wow, that's incredible. That's incredible. He's got more property than
Starting point is 00:59:29 Delaware. Probably more entertaining than Delaware, too. Ballin' out of control. Do you think he's got a girlfriend? Ships and Russians. Probably. When you get to that much money, you just have Russian orgies, I think. Yeah, they just show up. Dude, have you heard the Sumner Redstone tapes during the trial?
Starting point is 00:59:48 What's that? He's like, so he had this big trial, and he's like 98 or whatever he is, 96 or something. And the tapes that they played to show that he was with it were him arranging an orgy. Oh, my God. In his 90s? He's in his 90s, and he's like, so, you know, then you'll suck me off. Who is this guy? Sumner Redson. He's one of the biggest media owners in the world or whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And how did they film him doing this? It was a taped, I don't know how it was recorded, but it was a taped phone call that they submitted to show that he was mentally weak. That he was lucid? That he was lucid. Because they were trying to take his company from him. Oh, that's hilarious. So he submitted that?
Starting point is 01:00:24 What is it? Ted Turner, the 73-year-old billionaire founder of CNN, has revealed that he has four girlfriends, each of which whom he spends one week with a month. Wow. I love the idea of having four girlfriends, but they've got you nailed down per week. I love him. I love him.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Jane Fonda's probably screaming when she's reading this. Just looking at her screen. Ah! Jesus is the way! She went to Standing Rock, though. Jane Fonda went to Standing Rock and fed the protesters. They let her off the hook after that Hanoi Jane stuff? I think she's finally gotten past
Starting point is 01:01:00 that. That poor girl. Don't get in the tank. How old was she at the time? I have no get in the tank. When you're, like, how old was she at the time? I have no idea. 20s? Yeah. I mean, when you're that young and you get involved. Well, being in the tank wasn't right, but most people would agree she was probably right
Starting point is 01:01:14 that Vietnam shouldn't have been happening. We shouldn't have been bombing Vietnam. A hundred percent. A hundred percent, right? It's just that message was so confusing to people because it was the first war that we shouldn't have done. Like, all of a sudden, we're the bad guy. Whereas when we were kids...
Starting point is 01:01:29 I don't know. Native Americans might have some qualms with the first war. We shouldn't have done. But you know what I mean. It was the first war on TV. The first war on TV was more of a genocide than it was a war. Yeah, yeah. But I mean the battles.
Starting point is 01:01:38 But I mean like an army shipping off to do battle with an opposing army. This is the first time, like, whoa, we're wrong here. And on TV, you're seeing the bodies. Yeah. Yeah, so there was a lot of people that were trying to protest it, and then when you're 20 or in your 20s, you're so clumsy as it is, it's so likely you're going to get the message out wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:02 And she... That was the wrong way to do it. She fucked wrong. Yeah. Yeah. And she... That was the wrong way to do it. She fucked up. Yeah. But Hanoi Jane, man, that stuck with her forever, for decades. Imagine if Twitter
Starting point is 01:02:11 was around back then. She... Oh, God. Oh, God. Could you imagine? Oh, my God. Imagine if she did like... You'd be tarred
Starting point is 01:02:20 and feathered so quickly. Yeah. Like if she did a Reddit Ask Me Anything in the 70s. I'm in a tank in Hanoi. Ask me anything. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Whoops. Whoops. What are your thoughts on the public shaming and the mob just get out of hand sometimes? Yeah, it's too fun for people. That's the problem. It becomes too fun.
Starting point is 01:02:43 It's too fun to attack. And they love to see people that got you going fall. 100%. Yeah, people love that. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate because it's a new power that people have and we're yielding it against each other, sometimes for the wrong reasons, sometimes for the right reasons. I mean, I think certain people who've done terrible shit, I mean, I couldn't think of any offhand. I could think of like a lot of those football players, like the one guy who knocked his girlfriend out in the elevator. That guy deserved all that shame. You know, like, what the fuck, man? You punched her in the face.
Starting point is 01:03:15 You can't restrain her. She's trying to hit you. So you left hooked her. Can you grab a hold of her, man? You're a giant. You're a big, giant super athlete. And you KO'd your wife. That's fucked up, right?
Starting point is 01:03:26 I think a lot of us have that sort of feeling. And so when a guy like that gets all this blowback for something like that, it's deserved. Right. But there's been some people that have been attacked for some shit that didn't make any sense. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Some, yeah. I mean, hell, there's that new documentary out on Amanda Knox.
Starting point is 01:03:46 What do you think about that, Keith? Oh, she's totally innocent. You think so? If you watched the documentary. So here's the thing. We'll just fill out the story for people because there was a murder in Italy, right? I went in with kind of a blank mind because I didn't pay attention to almost any of it when it was happening. She was a dumb, and I just mean like young dumb.
Starting point is 01:04:04 How dare you? I just mean young dumb dumb. I don't mean, yeah. I just mean young dumb exchange student or whatever. And she's in Italy. And she's in a housing unit with a girl she's kind of friendly with. She goes and stays at her boyfriend's place, comes back the next day. The door's locked and they can't get it open, but they see some blood on the carpet. They call the cops.
Starting point is 01:04:22 They open the door. The girl's dead. There's blood everywhere. She's been raped and stabbed and beaten. And then they found the guy that did it. But they were so keen on going after Amanda Knox. They were just like,
Starting point is 01:04:35 it's got to be her. And then honestly, I think what indicted her is she seems to be a little off. She seems to maybe have some Asperger's or something. So she wasn't behaving emotionally like people are used to someone behaving and that's all it was it's like she had for sure i think pretty for sure yeah and and so they convicted her then they then they found her not guilty and then they ultimately found her not guilty again so and she they they tried to bring her back to the country right they tried to bring her back to the country, right?
Starting point is 01:05:05 They tried to bring her back for the Supreme Court trial, but they went along with it anyway. She didn't come back, but she was found not guilty again because the DNA evidence was bullshit. It was so contaminated. Now, if someone does get pronounced not guilty and they've been put through that horror for all those years, do they get any compensation for that?
Starting point is 01:05:24 No, nothing. Nothing you can do? Mm-mm. That's scary. Occasionally, when you get any compensation for that? No. Nothing. Nothing you can do. That's scary. Occasionally when you've got a guy like in the U.S. that's been in jail for 30 years, they'll give them like a million dollars or something, but it doesn't bring their life back. That's scary.
Starting point is 01:05:36 That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, her life and her boyfriend's life were just destroyed and she spent... Do you remember that fucking guy who got accused of being the Olympic Village bomber? And he was a security guard. And they smeared his name.
Starting point is 01:05:52 What was his name? Richard something? Richard Jewell. Dude, they put that guy on TV. They said he was the bomber. And he was just a regular old security guard. Didn't do anything wrong. I was a kid
Starting point is 01:06:05 at that olympics and we were deciding whether to go to the next day after the bombing so a bomb blew up did it kill anybody killed one person yeah and one lady died of a heart attack i believe i was there that night i wasn't there when a bomb went off but i was gonna be like we were gonna go to a basketball game there was like the u.s dream team was playing yeah yeah yeah we we went to someone scalper wouldn't let us buy tickets, so we left. But on our way home, that happened. Like we were on the subway going out to the suburb. My mom was calling everyone around us thinking like we got caught in it.
Starting point is 01:06:33 I have video of the park and whoever was on stage that day. But I'm not like really cool because I wasn't in the bomb, but like it was there that day. You know, Callan was in New York City at Gotham Comedy Club when the most recent bomb went off. He was six blocks away from it. He heard the bomb go off. What was that bomb? Pressure cooker bomb. It hurt a lot of people. It didn't kill anybody,
Starting point is 01:06:55 but it hurt a lot of people. It was under one of those remote-controlled pressure cooker jammies where they set it and just walked away from it. Jesus. God, the fact that someone could just do that and just indiscriminately blow up a bunch of people and blow shrapnel into their
Starting point is 01:07:12 body. But that guy got accused. That Jewel, Richard Jewel guy. That guy got accused publicly. The news ran with it. They didn't have any evidence. It was all wrong. He didn't do anything. And everybody was like, oh, they found him.
Starting point is 01:07:30 They found him. They put his picture on the fucking newspaper cover. That guy after the Boston Bomb, another pressure cooker, after the Boston Bombing, they put those guys on the front of the New York Post or whatever it was. Rolling Stone, remember?
Starting point is 01:07:44 That was the real guy. These were the wasn't. Well, no, no. That was the real guy. These were the innocent guys. Oh, that's right. They just put them on. They were like, FBI's looking for this guy. And it was like his life was torn apart. And he's like on Facebook, like, I didn't bomb anyone. Do you have those?
Starting point is 01:07:57 See if you can find that photo, Jamie. I forgot about that until you just brought that up. That was like within the first day. And one day his life was destroyed because you're walking down the street, people think they're looking at the Boston Bomber. That's so ridiculous. That's so ridiculous. Dude, and that's the fucking running with information we don't have yet.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Well, that's why people that have that sort of responsibility, like you're the media the official stamped media that's why you know Rolling Stone took so much heat when they had that cute bomber on the cover handsome bomber that guy could have got so much tail why is he on the
Starting point is 01:08:37 fucking cover of Rolling Stone for being a bomber he should be out there getting chicks it does seem like if these guys got laid a little more they wouldn't have done this shit bag men. They'd seek these two pictured at Boston Marathon. Meanwhile, they're just fucking dudes. And that guy in blue, like, the next day he's walking down the street being called a bomber.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Ugh. God damn it. Yeah, those big mistakes. There it is. Starnio. Dewey beats Truman. I get that guy in the Dallas shooting, too, that was walking around with a gun. They thought it was him because people saw a picture of him with a gun walking around the street.
Starting point is 01:09:09 But he had actually turned in the gun to a police officer. Remember that? You know what I'm talking about? I do remember that, but vaguely. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In Dallas, yeah, yeah. Do you think... Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I'm sorry. Please go ahead. Well, no. I was going to say, you know what I wish people were still talking about with the Boston bombing? Is there was a third guy who wasn't there. They said he was friends with the bomber, so they wanted to interview him. The FBI goes down to, what, Florida, Georgia, somewhere, interviews him four times. The fourth time, and they admit he was unarmed, they shoot him seven times once in the back of the head.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Yeah. Ibrahim Tadashev just executed the guy. Yeah. The FBI did. And then they came out and said, oh, he had a gun. Oh, he had a knife. Oh, he had a knife. Oh, never mind. He had a stick.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Oh, well, he didn't have any weapons, but we feared for our lives. And it's like your fourth interview with the guy. You just execute him. It's like crazy. Wow. But what better way to get the cute boy on the Rolling Stone cover to talk than to pump seven bullets into your friend. Into his friend. I mean, that's how you get the dude to talk.
Starting point is 01:10:09 That's how you know. Here's a picture of your friend. Yeah, I just shot him in the fucking head. I'm going to shoot you too. Tell me who told you to do this. Who taught you how to do this, fuckface? Here's a video on my phone, just so you know that I really shot your friend.
Starting point is 01:10:22 But that's our media. How is that not a story? It's crazy. Basically never mentioned in the media. Like really briefly mentioned. So briefly that I forgot about it until you just brought it up. Yeah, yeah. I'd totally forgotten about that.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I'm like, oh yeah, they jacked that guy. But we were like, fuck him. Guy's a bad guy. Because he was friends with the bombers. Fucked up. Guy fucked up. Shouldn't have been hanging around the bomber guy. Should have thought about who his father was.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Should have thought about who his friends were, too. God damn. People that have that kind of power, like, that's an enormous responsibility. You have a gun? Your job is, part of your job is to shoot people when they fuck up? Like, whoa. Yeah. And you're at the highest level, right?
Starting point is 01:11:03 You're the FBI. You're there to protect national security. Federal Bureau information i feel like they're not they're not taught how to de-escalate shit they're only taught how to escalate oh i'm sure they're taught how to de-escalate i'm absolutely sure they don't stick with that training let's just say that well they're people there's a real problem with giving people power you know giving anyone power over other people it's like that's a it's a very intoxicating position Especially like the kind of life-or-death power someone with a gun has and people don't want to listen to you You know and the other thing is like how many people?
Starting point is 01:11:37 Could handle that kind of pressure day in day out for 10 years or 20 years I totally agree those guys are under a shitload of pressure But that that still means we're doing something wrong if they're executing people. Oh, this, oh look, it's a hundred percent wrong. It's a hundred percent wrong. But the whole stew is wrong from everything we discussed from people, anybody being able to have a person, which I don't have any solution for.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I'm not a eugenics guy. I'm not saying I'm not offering up any sort of crazy solution. All I'm saying is we all agree that part of the problem is people get raised by horrible, awful people who abuse them and beat them and rape them. And they're subjected to all sorts of horrible shit as they're growing up. And they develop all fucked up. We all know people like that. They're just all fucked up. And those people are just cast out into the world.
Starting point is 01:12:20 And this is what our world is made of. Our world is made out of people. I mean, our civilization, at least. Well, this is why I think, and is made of our world is made out of people I mean our civilization at least well This is why I think and maybe people get behind me on this there So the numbers are it's you know rough But they think in the sociopath test about pet test about one out of every hundred people is a sociopath and those people Usually do really well in business they get to the top of corporations They become president the the United States.
Starting point is 01:12:45 And it's like, we should have a sociopath test for high ranking officials. You'd have to completely define it as someone who really doesn't have feelings for other people, right? You'd have to be able to really nail that down. But feelings are so... Emotions and emotional connections and empathy, it's such a poorly defined thing. Because someone who watches a lot of movies and reads a lot of books you can say the right words like if you're manipulative
Starting point is 01:13:09 without actually feeling it you could say all the right words you know yep it happens people all the time in relationships like you know girl meet a guy he's charming and he tells her he loves her and i mean really just as like he's doing stuff that he saw in a movie and then you know maybe four or five months in she realized oh my god he's a total psychopath and like he's just saying things he just knew how to say anything he just knew how to say the right things where the right cologne whatever it was say the right things at the right time because he's had a lot of practice and if you get the end of it and there's a person who's like literally a barely a person like some sort of a robot reciting things you know i mean that was did you ever read um um what's the brett easton
Starting point is 01:13:50 ellis book that they turned into a movie bradley cooper what american psycho yeah right american psycho but that's uh christian bale yeah yeah yeah brett easton ellis's book yeah the book is terrifying it's way more terrifying than the movie. I didn't read the book. The book is awful. I remember people, not awful like a bad book, like it's really well written, but it's awful like holy shit. And by the way, how much do the Trump kids look like American Psycho? It's like they're trying.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Well, how do you look if your dad's a billionaire? You probably can't look any other way. You have two options. You go all in with pops and you join the family business or you become like that surfer dude who like, man,
Starting point is 01:14:30 well, he really got into drugs and we brought him to counseling but that didn't help. Fell far from the tree. Yeah. You could be like
Starting point is 01:14:36 in the Malibu rehab permanently with flip flops on your feet up and they keep you sober but you know, you just like to surf. Your dad just pays for your treatment. I mean mean they have like a special kind of hair gel for like kids of billionaires i don't know how they slick it back like that well it's liberal tears they
Starting point is 01:14:54 just they scoop them out of buckets at hillary clinton rallies they just kick liberals in the balls collect the tears they just went around that night. All the people were crying when Hillary lost. They just gathered them up, gathered up those tears, and they just slicked their hair back. Yeah, I think that's it. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting. We're going to find out how much power the president actually has, too.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Because this Trump election let us know, hey, the system actually does work. Like someone can come in that's not being represented by their party. The party didn't even want him in. Someone can come in and still win. But at least so far, Bernie Sanders got close. But right now, only if you have a billion dollars. Right. But I think that's going to change.
Starting point is 01:15:44 First of all, no one like Bernie ever existed before Bernie. Right? Agreed. So all of a sudden, Bernie comes in. Now, here's the thing. If Trump's policies start working out, that's when everyone's fucked. If all of a sudden we can realize, oh, well, here were the log jams. He's right.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Like, holy shit, we're prospering again? Holy shit, look at all this good stuff that's happening. Even if he just does massive infrastructure projects that put people to work so that he can have his name Trump across the Trump bullet train, the Trump this, the Trump that. Even if he just does that, that could make people pretty happy. It could make people very happy. It's interesting. It's interesting because he's this total outsider who has paid off the insiders for a long time and now he's in if he follows through here's the scary thing is is if he in a way if he follows through with just you know
Starting point is 01:16:32 bringing us back from bombing every country it's like that alone could be a big step and it's like oh we needed a fucking crazy motherfucker to do that to say, why are we in all these other countries? Yeah. And he stopped, I'll say this for him, he was already basic, well, okay, protesters and him stopped the TPP, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the fucking largest corporate coup that's ever been devised. And basically, you know, he said he wasn't going to sign it. Now, here's the thing, he's not, he's going to create a new trade deal.
Starting point is 01:17:02 So it's going to be awful. He's going to put that forward. So it's not like he's done creating havoc in that way, but the fact that the TPP is over is a huge step. It's an interesting step. And what I was saying earlier, that one of the things that a lot of people said that I agree with is that I think him being a populist and him being really interested in public's opinion and what people think about him is actually a good thing.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Because when certain things he says, like off the cuff, he says shit off the cuff, and then he finds out that it was really a stupid thing to say, he amends what he says. And I think that's kind of interesting. Because if he starts to talk about some specific set of regulations or rules and then the public starts freaking out about it, it's very likely he might reconsider if it makes sense well this is how he's kind of like a
Starting point is 01:17:49 stand-up comic cuz he was going from speech to speech basically he would weed out the stuff that wasn't getting a huge reaction keep the stuff that got a big reaction it was just a greatest hits he was just playing the hits he's doing a set a strong set and but dude by the end of the election like after all the grab the pussy stuff and after the last debate, he was doing a run of these speeches. And I tuned into one of them. And I was like, the guy sounds pretty reasonable right now. Like right now in this moment, if you could like take this snippet instead of the other snippets, when he's going, the wall just got 10 feet higher. That's what I said. Instead of that, take this snippet, and you go, well, this guy's very reasonable. He's talking about corruption. He's talking about the deep-seated red tape that's almost impossible to remove because it's an ecosystem. And all these people, they've been feeding off of each other, and the bureaucracy roots run deep, and you just got to pull it out. You got to drain the swamp.
Starting point is 01:18:39 I totally agree with all that. The problem is now you look at his cabinet, he's grabbing the same swamp things. He's grabbing all these billionaires. He's putting them, well, billionaires,, he's grabbing the same swamp things. He's grabbing all these billionaires. He's putting them, well, billionaires, but he's putting the swamp things back. He's talking about Petraeus. It's like, and all these assholes. I don't know who he ended up going with for Treasury Secretary, but he was talking about Jamie Dimon for a while, the fucking head of Citibank.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I mean, sorry, JPMorgan Chase, that was behind the collapse, behind what created Occupy. He's putting the swamp things back in the swamp. He's drained it, and now he's putting them back. What was he trying to put Petraeus in for? Had a defense, right? That's an interesting choice. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:18 You might want to verify that. The Petraeus thing is fascinating, because Petraeus didn't do anything that was really that awful. He had an affair. Well, he leaked information. Right, but what did he do? He leaked information to his girlfriend that he was dating, right? And then she wrote a book with it.
Starting point is 01:19:33 How heavy was it? Like, what was the information? I don't know what the information was. Was it top secret? I don't know. Secretary of State. Supporters make their cause. He was looking for.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Yeah, he's an interesting case because he's a case of the FBI and the CIA don't like each other that much. And that's where this came from. This is what's so fascinating about it. Petraeus was running the CIA. The FBI does an investigation on the CIA because Petraeus is banging this chick and she's crazy and she likes to send crazy emails to people. He was, he was banging some nutty broad and And so that's what sunk him this this crazy lady was making some noise threatening people She was threatening certain people and then they went who's what's going on here And it turns out they're like kind of swinger type characters or something Petraeus was hitting it hollow And next thing you know It is and then Petraeus had an affair with this other woman who was writing an autobiography on him.
Starting point is 01:20:26 That's what it was. Now I'm remembering. Right. And the autobiography woman and the other lady got into it. And then. No, I didn't follow any of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the CIA was like, what?
Starting point is 01:20:37 And then the FBI was like, what the fuck's going on over here? And then that's how he wound up getting in trouble. That's where it all went down. That's why he got stripped. I covered him when he, when he got into fracking. He was the front of a corporation that was pushing fracking around the U.S. Post his removal from the Army? Yeah, after that.
Starting point is 01:20:56 And he had a year or two doing this. So they fly him out to North Dakota where all the fracking is going on. And he's introduced by one of the higher-ups in the North Dakota government. I can't remember what her job was, but, you know, lieutenant governor or something. And she introduces him, and she's clearly not very bright. And she introduces him. She goes, it's such a privilege to have David Petraeus here. He's here talking about fracking so that we never have to go overseas to get the oil we need like we did in Iraq.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And it was like, you're not supposed to admit that we went to get the oil. That's part of the secret, right? And he goes up and he's just like, thank you for that lovely introduction. And I'm like, she just said you went to war for oil. That is not supposed to be what you're admitting. You're supposed to say, hey, we went to war for freedom, right? We're giving Iraqis freedom. What happened?
Starting point is 01:21:47 Wow. Whoops. But he's not responsible for her. He's probably just being polite. He didn't want to have to correct her. Ma'am, we actually went to war for freedom. For freedom. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:55 This is incorrect. I can't continue. Yeah, he was teaching at City College. Yep. And did you ever see those protests where he'd walk to his car and they'd be screaming, war criminal, war criminal. Just follow him around. It's great.
Starting point is 01:22:10 War criminals. I think that these guys need to face that shit. They should see people in their driveways yelling at them. Yeah, it's real interesting that you could get taken down like him just because you were having an affair. Like, they got him out because of that, like, because of adultery, and because of the top-secret clearance stuff, right? Well, I think the adultery thing would just have made him look bad, but it was really the leaking information. The leaking to his girlfriend who was writing books, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Yeah, that's crazy. Isn't it funny that, funny that the most powerful military people are still just vulnerable to the dick? Well, yeah, but here's the thing. He could have been the dick pillow talk, yeah. He could have been having affairs all over the place. No one would have tried to stop him because he's top of the military,
Starting point is 01:22:59 but once you start leaking the information, then things change. Hey, what was your opinion of that journalist that wound up allegedly committing suicide by driving his car head-on into a tree? Remember Michael... Yeah, Hastings. Hastings. Hastings, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:15 What did you think about that? I think that there's a lot of evidence that he was probably taken out. I think so. Dun, dun, dun! Because... Lee Camp's got the right idea! They've been doing this since the 1960s! You really think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone?
Starting point is 01:23:35 Why do you... Sorry for that, folks. And here's the thing. So we know he emailed... And by the way, it's fucking sad and horrific. Whether he was taken out or not taken out, it's fucking horrific. Because he was such an amazing reporter, an amazing dude. Well, let's talk about what he did.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Because he wrote the story for Rolling Stone. For Rolling Stone about Petraeus and about some of those guys. It was actually another general, too. And there was something that the general had said, like in some way mocking the president. And he printed that. Yeah yeah and it set off this whole chain of events that guy wound up stepping down and people were furious yeah at him yeah for making this guy step down when he was embedded he was embedded for an extended period of time right because he was only supposed to be there for a short amount of time and then he stayed for a
Starting point is 01:24:20 longer time because like something had happened they couldn't get him out of there but he did the right thing which is you're not supposed to become best buddies with these guys. You're supposed to keep being a legitimate reporter. And most people in bed don't. They become friends with them. But here's the thing a lot of people don't know is he sent an email to BuzzFeed, that's where he was working at the time, right, saying, hey, I'm on to something big. You might not hear from me for a while.
Starting point is 01:24:43 If the FBI shows up to the offices, tell them you need a lawyer and don't talk to them. Whoa. So that email goes out like, it's like 24 hours or something before his car explodes in a fiery mess here in L.A. And it seems like there definitely could have been hacking of the, you know, he was going 100 miles an hour. Now, I've also, you know, heard some people saying he was into some wild stuff and wild driving, but I don't know. Well, they definitely found meth in his system, allegedly according to the coroner, who was absolutely not paid off. Yes, but have you read, if you read the full coroner's report, it says not at a level that would have impaired driving. It's like a trace of some stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Of meth. Yeah. But what I was going to say was that I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I think if you take Adderall, and you take a lot of Adderall in particular, I think that has almost the exact same chemicals as meth. Right? Wouldn't you test positive for meth if you were taking a lot of Adderall? That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:25:43 I have no idea. Please look that up, Jamie. What do you think? Let's just guess. Let's play a game. Let's guess. Do you think you could test positive for meth if you were taking Adderall? I think that you could test positive for meth if there's probably certain other chemicals in your system unrelated to meth, probably.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Well, the urinalysis test for any and all amphetamines and methamphetamine is just one derivative. Similarly, Adderall is a combination drug comprised of two amphetamine salts, dextroamphetamine and levamphetamine. Any of the three will show positive for amphetamines in a urine drug test. Well done. Well done. Wow.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Joe Rogan, everybody. Adderall's meth. So he could have been just taking Adderall, which is super common amongst riders. When you have a deadline, you have to bang out something, you're exhausted. I mean, it is almost mandatory amongst a lot of riders. Yeah. Yeah. But so, I mean, and even so, it's like trace amounts wouldn't have impaired driving, and
Starting point is 01:26:38 he's going 100 miles an hour, and these cars are, the car he was in had a hackable computer. Oh, yeah. Well, they can do it now for sure. They can do it. I mean, that's what we were talking about previously, all these autonomous cars. There's a lot of cars now, like the Tesla, where you can get on the road and you can press a button and take your fucking hands off the wheel and the navigation system drives the car 100%. My buddy texted me from his fucking car. He's like sitting there texting me while he's driving.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Wow. So this is a car right now, today, that can do that. So if the car can do that... So there's no requirement that you keep looking at the road? Well, you're supposed to actually have your hands on the wheel, but you don't have to. The BMW 7 Series apparently has a very similar
Starting point is 01:27:17 technology, but you have to hold on to the wheel. Like, it'll do all the driving. It'll do all the braking, it'll do all the acceleration, but it wants your hands on the wheel, just in case some shit goes down. Yeah. Like, please pay attention as much as possible. We're gonna make it as safe as possible. We're gonna do all the work, but right here, 10 and 2. 10 and 2, buddy. I wonder who
Starting point is 01:27:33 does the human or the computer win if, like, you were accelerating into a tree? Would the computer stop the car? Or would it just be like, oh. It's a very good question. I don't know. It's a very good question. Humans got it covered. Yeah, that's a very good question. I don't know. It's a very good question. Humans got it covered. Yeah, that's a very good question. Yeah, this guy's trying to commit homicide.
Starting point is 01:27:52 They're asking the question, well, what would happen if there's people crossing the street? Would the car hit the people or save the people in the car? Which is almost a better question. That's a very good question, too. Moral judgment calls. What do you do if an animal runs in front of your car? What does a car do? Does a car swear?
Starting point is 01:28:03 Look at this. Trees to the right, trees to the left, and an animal runs in front of the car. What does a car do? Does a car swerve? Look at it. There's trees to the right, trees to the left, and an animal runs in front of the car. What do you do? Well, and if it slams on the brakes, the guy behind you could plow into you.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Right. Maybe there's like a size limit. Like if it's a rat, you just kill it. But if it's a dog, you slam on the brakes. I don't want anybody
Starting point is 01:28:18 to lose their dog. Maybe it's a cuteness test for the animal. Yeah, like if it's a rat, you kill it, but if it's a squirrel, you try to swerve. You get really sad if you hit a bunny right if it's if it's a deer fuck it but if it's a bunny have you seen that one where a guy hits a bear he's going like 60 miles an hour
Starting point is 01:28:35 have you seen that one the really recent one this guy is driving and he's talking i think he's talking about getting baked too which is really. And this fucking bear just jumps out of nowhere. I really think he was talking about getting high while it happened. So this guy's driving. He's accelerating. And as he's driving down the road, this bear just jumps in front of his car. He slams into the bear. And the bear literally goes launching through the air.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And then the bear gets up and runs off into the woods. The bear was fine. Dude, probably not. I mean, he probably had massive internal injuries. Watch this. Here it goes. Ah! Hold on.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Give me the full volume. Oh, my God. Do it from the beginning. Oh, Jesus. Listen. Yes. I'm going to go home and smoke a fucking huge fucking... Oh, my God!
Starting point is 01:29:24 So he was talking about getting baked. I just hit the shit out of a fucking bear. And he just slammed into this bear. Dude, the bear is fine! No, no, no, that bear's dead. The bear ran off! No, it hobbled off, but it's gonna die. I'm pretty sure it's gonna die.
Starting point is 01:29:38 The impact, let's watch it one more time. I enjoy these things. One more time, watch this. More volume, please. Oh my God! Dude, that is not a fine animal. Oh, my God. There's no way that animal's fine.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Bears are pretty tough. No, man. Bears are pretty tough. I would imagine that thing's dead. I would imagine you're dealing with massive internal hemorrhages. He just slammed into that thing and went flat. I mean, how many feet do you think it went? Let's see the impact one more time, please. Dude, it just rolls. One more time.
Starting point is 01:30:08 Listen to this. It's amazing that I can walk after that. Look, it hits the ground and it gets up and starts hobbling off into the woods. You're going to make this your ringtone, aren't you? No, let's go champ. Let's go champs by ringtone. Man, that's crazy. I'm going to go home and smoke it. Oh my God. But that is obviously an animal that your car would stop for. It's a big ass animal. And so the car just assumes there's not a Mack truck behind you that's just going to drive over you? It's a very good question. It's a very good question.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Yeah, I mean, it doesn't make judgment calls and you could make the wrong one and maybe it's calculations It'll be more accurate than yours But maybe it'll just be going slower in the first place so that won't be as much of an issue So dude if these cars are going the speed limit I'm gonna lose my shit if that guy was going if that guy was driving down the road And he was going ten miles an hour slower. He might have been able to slam on the brakes and avoid that barrier. I saw this video yesterday, but I thought it was going around because it was new, but this Tesla slams into the back of this van because it doesn't see it at the last second
Starting point is 01:31:13 because that car was in the way. Oh, no. And I guess there's some verbiage in that autonomous driving that it may not see parked vehicles on highways or something like that right now. Oh, my God. So, like, if you're going 60 miles an hour. So, it was the computers were watching the moving car and ignored the stopped car. They didn't have enough time to see it or recognize it.
Starting point is 01:31:32 So, there's a bunch of them. But, you know what? That's to be expected with some new technology. There's no way it's going to come out of the bat. And it's going to be out of the bat. Off the bat. Off the bat, out of the box. You know what I'm concerned with?
Starting point is 01:31:43 This goddamn Hyperloop. I got questions, Elon Musk. I know nothing about the Hyperloop. He's putting a goddamn, it goes as fast as a jet, but it's on the ground. He's putting a goddamn ground jet in place. Ground jet. It's a ground jet. It's a ground jet that he's putting in.
Starting point is 01:31:58 It's a goddamn ground jet. Putting it in our sacred land. Why is there not a bullet train across the U.S., though? Explain that to me. Because people can just decide that Jesus wants them to jump in front of the bullet train. And that's like having a—if you were in a plane, okay, how much more dangerous would air flight be if any asshole at any point in time could instantly put a telephone pole up right in front of the plane? Or a bear.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Plane travel or a bear. Plane travel would be so much more fucking dangerous, right? If anybody could just randomly decide, I mean, most people wouldn't, but if they decided to. That's why trains have the cow catchers. They knock the cows out of the way. Yeah, but does that always work? I mean, there's a lot of shit you could put on the track that the train couldn't just
Starting point is 01:32:44 knock out of the way. He can move some boulders in place. He could put some explosives in place. Move some boulders? Move some boulders. What the fuck? I seen a guy. He puts dynamite in the hill and he times it right.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I mean, they fucking for sure can stick something in front of that train that sucks if you hit it, you know? Some sort of a bomb-type situation. I mean, it's essentially, what are you going to do? You got to have TSA agents every 50 feet across the United States? Dude, Amtrak goes along. Nobody's trying to stop them. Rosary in their hand, glassy eyed, zombie look, leaps off the top.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Boom, it hits the window. You can get them on all sides. They can just jump in. Still, it's worth it. So it works for a month and then you plaster couple guys, and then it works for another month. Or you put it all underground, and it starts earthquakes quicker than fracking. That's the other thing. Then we're going to do one up to San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:33:32 How about that? Going 700 miles an hour on the ground, and the fucking earth moves. Yeah. How about that? I don't know. I don't know how LA has a metro. I don't really get how it works. Isn't that thing going to collapse the moment there's an earthquake?
Starting point is 01:33:42 It's really well built. But San Francisco goes one better. They have the BART system which goes under the fucking ocean. Does it? Yes, it goes under the bay.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Is it? You know how I found out? I was high as fuck and I was hanging out with the crew at Fear Factor and we decided to go we were filming in Oakland
Starting point is 01:34:01 and we decided to go for dinner in San Francisco so we all got together we got on this train and I'm like why are my ears popping and they go because we're underneath the bay and i was like underneath alcatraz i was already super paranoid i was already super duper high on edibles i mean it was like the worst time to underestimate the power of edibles and i was
Starting point is 01:34:25 underwater i was feeling my ears pop there was a real moment when i came downstairs this is i came downstairs from my hotel room and i met all my friends in the lobby and i was just so beyond barbecued that i had this illusion this uh hallucination of people being this two-dimensional cutout, like those preview things that you see at the movies. We see a two-dimensional cutout of an action figure. That's what people were. And then behind that, I would see peeking out their true self. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:35:00 It was like poking out from behind. I would see them. And the problem is you don't know which one to punch. Which one do you punch? They were all my friends. I didn't want to punch them. I was just like, are you there. I would see them. And the problem is you don't know which one to punch. Which one do you punch? They were all my friends. I didn't want to punch them. I was just like, are you really? Where are you taking me?
Starting point is 01:35:10 Why are my ears popping? That thing moves. The ground moves there, and they're under the goddamn ocean. San Francisco, it's built on mud. It's filled with sharks, surrounded by sharks, and the ground moves. It's trying to kill you. Sharks are walking down the street. It's a mess. It's trying to ground moves. It's trying to kill you. Sharks are walking down the street. It's a mess. It's trying to kill you.
Starting point is 01:35:27 It's trying to kill you. A lot of mountain lions up there, too. Yeah, they eat dogs. Dogs and cats. They catch like a hundred of them a year. I say good for them. Listen, some of nature needs to fucking be winning. Some of nature needs to be winning. I think it's great.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Not on my watch, boy. I think it should eat a bunch of poodles. Yeah, but occasionally it'll get your girlfriend. Oh, that's not good. Yeah. Get joggers. They like to go off to joggers. Bikers.
Starting point is 01:35:55 I remember I was hiking once and I saw a sign, beware mountain lions. And the advice on the sign was throw sticks and rocks at it, but not if you have to bend down to get them. I was like, what are you walking around with bundles of sticks and rocks? What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, you got to be careful because you want to be scary, but you don't want to be challenging. It's a very tricky fucking dance you walk on a mountain lion. It was like if it attacks, fight back.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Oh, Jesus Christ. I saw a sign recently when I was up in San Francisco. I put it up on my Instagram. That was the very advice. That if you see a mountain lion and a mountain lion attacks you, fight back. Like, oh, God. Can you show me an instructional? Can you give me, like, what are the number one best moves?
Starting point is 01:36:34 Can you imagine how much you'd get laid if you won that fight, though? There's a dude in Canada that killed one with a knife. He was in his 60s. Mountain lion jumped him. And he's like, fuck you. Just fucking jabbed it to death. That guy's been, fuck you. He was fucking jabbed to death. That guy's been waiting his whole life for that moment. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Maybe he's just a man. Just a man with a knife. Maybe he had a giant-ass fucking crocodile Dundee knife. Maybe it was that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just the idea that we're supposed to just let those things run around. There's a big protest. I think that nature should be winning in some ways.
Starting point is 01:37:07 It should be eating some dogs. Fuck you. They eat dogs. The coyotes eat dogs out here or something. They do occasionally, yeah. They definitely eat little dogs. But it's interesting. I've been reading this book forever.
Starting point is 01:37:19 I swear I'll get it done soon, folks. It's a Dan Flores book called Coyote America. It's actually about a history of the coyotes. He's arguing, or he's saying that most of what goes on when coyotes kill cats and dogs, they're killing competing predators. That's how they look at it. Like, they're gonna eat
Starting point is 01:37:35 the cat and the dog, but really what's going on is they're killing the competitors. They're not doing it for food. Well, cats kill an exorbitant amount of animals. You probably know about that, right? Tons. The number one killer of birds, I think, is cats. Yeah, in America. Yeah, feral cats, they just don't kill just a little. They kill billions of mammals and birds.
Starting point is 01:37:55 B.I. And people are like, there's no way. Yeah, there was a whole article about how these scientists did this long-term study, and it blew them away. They literally had no—once they started doing the calculations, like how many cats there are, how many animals a cat is capable of killing, if the cat's outside, how many animals will it encounter. Well, and that's why it's bullshit when anti-environmentalists are like,
Starting point is 01:38:16 oh, the solar panel system is frying birds. It fries a minimal number of birds compared to the number of cats are taken out. Cats are just jacking everything, man. Cats are just monsters. They really are. I also read that if you die in your apartment, dogs will leave you alone, but cats will eat you. They eat your face. They start with your lips.
Starting point is 01:38:37 But dogs will leave you alone. Yeah. Cats, again, I love cats. I think they're cool as fuck. But just designed by nature, there's a whole system. And cats are at the top of the system. The biggest ones, like, you ever seen that video of the crocodile coming out of the water with its mouth open? And the lion goes in the water and stares it down?
Starting point is 01:38:56 And the crocodile's like, fuck this. A crocodile backed off from a lion. There's another video of a, like, regular cat getting a crocodile or alligator to back down. Yeah. Just like a regular house cat being like, eh, eh. Oh, it's a bear. You've seen the cat swat the bear? The bear comes to look at the cat.
Starting point is 01:39:13 The cat hisses and slaps the bear in the nose. And the bear's like, all right, all right. All right. Chill out. See if I can eat you. Jesus. Just don't want to fight. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:39:21 I'm just trying to eat you. I'm just trying to eat you. Just relax a little. Yeah. Yeah. Big cats In our neighborhood There's one in Malibu That they're gonna kill now
Starting point is 01:39:29 Because It's in the mountains of Malibu And they just got the It's really controversial I've been getting all these Tweets about it People are so upset We gotta save this mountain line
Starting point is 01:39:38 But it's A specific one Yeah They have a radio caller On this fucker They know where he's been And he's slaughtering Things up there.
Starting point is 01:39:45 Because there's an alpaca farm. He's just flossing his teeth with dog collars. He's killed dogs, too. He's killed a lot of shit, but he's killed a lot of shit recently. Like 12 animals or something crazy like that. Listen, don't hate the play, hate the game. Mountain lion in Malibu killed. Here it goes.
Starting point is 01:40:07 P45 suspected of killing 11 alpacas and a goat. Jesus. And he's not doing it. He's in two days. He's just in two days. He's done this. Listen. He's a monster.
Starting point is 01:40:19 You've got to have hobbies. He's out there jacking shit. That's what he does. They should put him in a zoo and let him keep eating things. No. Uh-uh. I would rather kill They should put him in a zoo and let him keep eating things. No. Uh-uh. I would rather kill him than put him in a zoo. Not that I want to kill him either.
Starting point is 01:40:30 I just think he should probably be moved to somewhere where he could have a more fruitful life. Take him to Africa. Put him out on the savannas. It's just not good when he's living around people and he's choosing to kill their pets and livestock. Either you're going to kill him or you're going to move him. Yeah, but we chose to be in his way. He has 10 days. The permit allows the rancher.
Starting point is 01:40:48 It's called a depredation permit. They allow the rancher 10 days to search for P-45 within a 10-mile range of the ranch. The rancher may also hire a hunter under the terms of the depredation order. See, that's what they do. They hire a hunter, and the hunter comes with dogs. And the dogs find the mountain lion because guess what, bitch? You're not finding the mountain lion. If the mountain lion doesn't want you to find them you're not finding them most people that live up there even with a tracking device no you're not going
Starting point is 01:41:11 to find him you're going to know where he is but you won't be able to get near him wow he's going to know where you are unless you figure out a way to circle the area where he is and have like a large number of people you know like an army in the old timey days they'd come at each other with spears and then just start moving in but you would have to have so many of people, you know, like an army in the old timey days. They'd come at each other with spears and then just start moving in. But you would have to have so many fucking people. You'd circle an enormous area because he's going to be, he's going to smell you from a mile away, like literally a mile away. They'll run when they smell you.
Starting point is 01:41:37 They could see you way better than you could see him. See, I appreciate that. Let him go. It's pretty dope, but it's not but I don't appreciate it in a zoo. I think in a zoo, that's the worst thing you could do to it. Well, I don't want him in a zoo, but I also don't want him dead. But isn't it more dead to be in a zoo than to give your life to the organisms in the ground, like nature intended?
Starting point is 01:41:58 That was beautiful. If you're out there in the wild. I mean, if that alpaca-killing monster, that goat-slaying monster just gets shot, the coyotes eat him, everybody eats him, everybody gets off, we're fine. No more monsters. Well, you know, maybe they'll put him in the zoo, and eventually he'll escape and grab a kid or two. Did you see that one in the zoo that killed a koala?
Starting point is 01:42:17 The L.A. zoo? Killed a koala, no. Climbed a fucking barbed wire fence, got into the koala cage, killed a koala. Oh, those must look so appetizing after you've been in your cage for years. Yeah. He's like, I am. There's snacks living next door. But he's not in a cage, though.
Starting point is 01:42:34 He's outside. Oh, he's outside. He's a legit wild mountain lion. And he saw this, I think it was a koala. Was it a koala or a panda? Koala? Yeah. He saw the thing.
Starting point is 01:42:43 He's like, I can fucking definitely eat that. Dude, he realized. He's like, there's a whole pen of snacks right there. So how do I get in here? They were so baffled. Like, how did he get over the barbed wire? He figured out a way to get over the barbed wire. They're like velociraptors.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Figuring out how to open door handles. Dude, what an amazing creation. It's just, it's so cool that nature has all these varieties of amazing things that you could kind of pay attention to. If you really want to really, like, spend a day looking at all the wide variety of bizarre animals. We were playing a video the other day of a roadrunner that kills and eats a rattlesnake. Did you know that roadrunners eat rattlesnakes? No. Dude, it's the craziest thing you've ever seen in your life.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Well, they just pack it to death. Grab it by the head and then smash its head on rocks. Whoa. That's nuts. Play it for him. Play it for him! You need to see this. You need to see this. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. I saw it and I was like, this can't be real. Did you see the one where the roadrunner was chasing like bikers?
Starting point is 01:43:39 On bicycles. And it's just like going with them for like miles. There he is. Look at this bad motherfucker. A little more of the video. I guess they were in a fight before he got a hold of him. Yeah, oh no, they go at it for a while and boom, so he gets him by the top of the head and look how he does him in here, man. Smash. Dude.
Starting point is 01:43:59 But look at his eyes. That is a fucking dinosaur, man. Bang. How is he not getting bitten? Because he's got a hold of him. He's got a hold of his jaw. Look what he did to his jaw. He figured out a way to bite his top jaw and then smash his head on the rocks. Wow.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Just killed it. And then he starts eating it. Watch when he eats it. It's even more bizarre because it's so big. That's an amazing creation. Look at it. He's eating this snake. This is insane. He took it down in one bite. Look at it. He's eating this snake. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:44:27 He took it down in one bite. This is insane. What a crazy dinosaur-like tiny animal. That's nuts. Have you ever heard of terror birds? No. Terror birds were like a roadrunner-type bird, but nine feet tall. Nine feet?
Starting point is 01:44:46 Flightless birds that lived in, I think in the Jurassic. Oh, so like pterodactyls, but. Yeah, no, it wasn't the Jurassic. I think it was like somewhere around like 15,000, 16,000 years ago. Am I wrong about that? When did pterodactyls go extinct? It might have been a lot longer. It might have been like 100,000 years ago. But it wasn't
Starting point is 01:45:06 so long ago that there weren't people. There were people alive when these things were alive. And they were these giant, nine-foot, predatory birds that looked... Well, because dinosaurs are closely related to birds. They're basically birds. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Jesus, Lee Camp. Jesus. Here's the thing. Two and a half million years ago? Yeah. Oh. Before people. What the fuck am I talking about? Who gives me the mic?
Starting point is 01:45:31 But they should have been here. We should bring them back. We can do it now, probably. Look what they look like. Clone them. Okay. Those should be walking around, and then you have fewer people. Damn, that was two and a half million years ago?
Starting point is 01:45:42 So what was two and a half million years ago? Were we like Australia Pythagoras? Is that what we were back then? Wow. Look at that bird. The reign of the terror bird. Jesus Christ. Okay. Gorging on a smorgasbord of plant-eating mammals until these scary birds disappeared about 2.5 million years ago.
Starting point is 01:46:00 So if you had to guess, what were humans 2.5 million years ago? Like hairy little ape things? Yeah, little ape things. Something along those lines. Dude, I bet they were scared of that fucking thing. Fuck, yeah. That's probably why we were scary little ape things. Maybe once that thing died off, we came out of the cave.
Starting point is 01:46:17 Yeah, yeah. Started getting our shit together. Came down from the trees. It's weird that that's our logo too, right? An eagle. That's our mascot. our mascot yeah yeah a flying terror bird yeah yeah lee camp is that how you feel about life right now yeah but you were talking about too many people i'm telling you bring back a couple terror birds you let them lose fewer people um that's not the way to handle it, Lee Camp.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Because they're going to get you too. And they're going to get me. If you're out in the Target parking lot. See, this is the problem. You have kids, so you're worried the mountain lion's going to get them. I'm worried about my kids, but I'm definitely worried about me too. What about you, man? Listen, my kids might outrun you, bitch.
Starting point is 01:46:59 You know how to choke out a mountain lion, right? It's not going to work. It's not going to work. Do you think, honestly, do you think there's too many people? Do you think it's possible that we could balance it out? I think we could balance it out. I think if we use technology appropriately. I mean, we throw away 40% of our food.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Do we really? Yeah. But if we give that 40% away, maybe they'll just keep fucking and having more babies. And we'll be more doomed. Yeah, eventually we'll get there, too. Who's they? Those other people. The others. The others. What were get there too. Who's they? Those other people. The others.
Starting point is 01:47:26 The others. What were you pulling up over there, Jamie? Nothing. Yeah, it is a weird thing when you look at some place like India that has one-third of the land mass. We could live in a sustainable way, but we're not doing it at all. The planet is collapsing under the weight. But how would you decide, like when it comes to overpopulation,
Starting point is 01:47:46 without doing the China thing, the one baby thing, which really didn't work at all, where they kind of fucked up everything? What a disaster. You have people throwing babies over bridges. Well, not only that, they had, like, 70% men. Yeah. You know, they had some bizarre thing
Starting point is 01:48:00 because they wanted more men than women. Yeah. Well, because everyone, the way their culture works is that, you know, the man inherits all the... Yeah, they wanted more men than women? Yeah. Well, because everyone, the way their culture works is the man inherits all the... Yeah, they wanted a boy. That's not a good thing. 70% men, no. That's a mess.
Starting point is 01:48:14 That's a lot of sad men. How many different continents right now have more than a billion people on them? There's India. I have no idea. If you had to guess. It's a quiz. You're a very smart guy, it depends on what... You're a very smart guy, and I want to test your general knowledge.
Starting point is 01:48:27 All right, all right. It depends on what you're considering a continent, because you've got Eurasia. You've got... You know, we're talking land masses. That's true. Right. Yeah, that's a lot of fucking people. Countries?
Starting point is 01:48:41 It might only be China and India that have over a billion. That's a lot of fucking people. Countries? It might only be China and India that have over a billion. It's a lot of fucking people. It's amazing when you look back just a couple hundred years ago at the numbers of people that were alive. Well, populations go on like it's shooting through the roof. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, I think it was the 1970s
Starting point is 01:49:00 the world population was in like 2 billion range. And now it's what, 7? 7. 7 billion? Yeah. It's not good. Well, the problem is we've wiped out all the diseases. You need some real good diseases running to really clear out the underbrush, you know?
Starting point is 01:49:15 I don't think you should say that. I'm making you uncomfortable. We went to the CDC once, me and Duncan Trussell, for this show I was doing, and we talked to all these disease guys. You know what's really interesting? They're terrified. The people that run the CDC, they are legitimately terrified of pandemics. Like, legitimately.
Starting point is 01:49:33 They're like, we're not worried about—I'm like, were you guys worried about weaponized diseases and anthrax? And they're like, we are worried about regular diseases that just go amok, that just go Spanish flu on people. Just start slaughtering massive amounts of people. Yeah. And I think a large reason that they fear that is because they overuse of antibiotics. And a lot of that is in factory farming. Is that?
Starting point is 01:49:56 Yeah. Is that where they use most of their antibiotics? They pump. It's like 70% of antibiotics or more than that is used in factory farms. They pump these animals full of it because these animals are living on top of each other and each other's shit. And the only way to have them survive is to pump them full of antibiotics.
Starting point is 01:50:10 And so then that immunity to antibiotics then spreads to us. Yeah, that's where the next pandemic will come from, factory farming. I was watching this video online yesterday of this girl who is, she's like a vegan activist who had this video about why do we eat turkey on thanksgiving
Starting point is 01:50:25 it's a really well done video she's very it's very smartly edited and very smartly narrated and she starts talking about the turkey industry but she sets it up really well like what did what we just sort of do it like why do we eat turkeys and then she takes you to this mike rowe episode where they show how they get turkey cum and that all these tur all these turkeys are so overbred and fucked up. And they're so big, so quick. They literally can't physically have sex. And they can't walk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:53 So they use artificial insemination. And so this guy has to literally. Talk sweet to them. Yeah, you got to talk sweet to them. They have this turkey's legs clamped down on this machine. And then he's like touching its prostate and with a tube in it's like hole you know because it has one hole and the turkey's sucking it it's sucking it out with a straw the turkey's gotta be like what the fuck yeah it's
Starting point is 01:51:17 going on exactly he's getting diddled he's coming this guy has a tube he's sucking the cum out of this turkey's hole you, because they have like that one sort of universal hole for everything. Yeah. And as he's sucking the cum out of it, he has a glass of bottle water with him because sometimes it gets in his mouth. So he has to like clean it out. I'm like, what kind of a fucking job?
Starting point is 01:51:37 This is the only way you can get this stuff? Dude, turkey rape should be illegal. Totally. It should be illegal. But it's amazing that nobody talks about that. But everybody talks about like like, force-feeding ducks to get foie gras. Ugh.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Like, how'd you guys miss that one? Yeah. Like, look what they're doing to that turkey's butt. Yeah. Like, how come you guys are, everybody's cool with turkey. It's fucking sick. And, you know, like you're talking about, they pump them full of these hormones to make them too big.
Starting point is 01:51:59 It's like, pigs in factory farming are made so big that they can, like, hardly move. And then when they have them, like, they take them out to the, you know, killing floor or whatever, they've never really walked very far. Some of them collapse under the, like, stress of, like, walking 10 feet. It's just, like, sick system. It's weird, too, because pigs are smart. Yeah, emotionally really smart. There was a documentary once called My Brother's Keeper.
Starting point is 01:52:25 It was about these mentally challenged guys that were being put up for murder. Did you ever see it? It was a long time ago, but I remember when I watched it, there was a scene because they were rural farmers, and they were being charged with some murder, and apparently they were just really mentally slow and incapable of sort of understanding the charges
Starting point is 01:52:44 that are being levied against them. But when they were just really mentally slow and incapable of sort of understanding the charges that are being levied against them. But when they were running this farm, there was one scene where they had to execute a pig. And the guy pulls out the gun and he starts going towards the pig. And the pig recognizes the gun and just fucking panics. Like the pig who had been around him all the time and never worried at all saw that gun and freaked the fuck out. And just started running and running around he's chasing it and then he shoots it in the head and i remember thinking whoa that pig knew yeah like that peg knew what the gun was yeah that's that's a level of intelligence that's
Starting point is 01:53:15 super uncomfortable yep they're smart they're fucking smart but the problem with pigs is they go wild i I thought you were going to say the problem is they're delicious. No, I was going to say the real problem with pigs is what do you do with them all? Pigs are like super prolific breeders. Yeah. You ever see wild pigs? No. They can't.
Starting point is 01:53:39 I know they exist. Hanging out in the city is too much. I know. I know they exist. Yeah, they're all over Texas. Texas is so crazy with them. It's not nice to call the people of Texas wild pigs. That's not what I meant, bro.
Starting point is 01:53:51 That's too much joke. Dude, that's not what I'm saying. How does Ted Cruz keep getting elected? Tell me about that. You understand politics. What the fuck's going on there? Because he's in the middle of fucking, you know, Texas. Yeah, but how do they not even look at him like people should be looking at Jim Baker
Starting point is 01:54:04 with his fucking furniture made out of survival food? They should be looking at him the same exact way, like, wait a minute, man. They absolutely should. Anybody who's ever been in a room with Ted Cruz, you just see them and they're like, ugh, that guy.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Even his own daughter. You remember that video of his daughter being like, ugh. Do you know the story about his college roommate who's like his number one troll now? No. His college roommate brutalizes him on Twitter. His college roommate is really smart. And I think he's a screenwriter. And he just mocks Ted Cruz so openly on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:54:41 And he said in order to think like Ted Cruz, you have to, and he abbreviates it out, like I should be president. So you should have I-S-B-P before everything Ted Cruz says or does because in his mind he should be president. So before you look at anything that he says, just put in his mind the thought I should be president first and then he says these things. I'm like, oh, my God, that's so good. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:55:08 His Twitter page is marvelous. It's marvelous. And how sad that people are like, damn, if only Ted Cruz had won. If only he'd beat Trump. We could have had a real God-fearing Christian in the White House instead of this orange fella. Yeah, he was a spooky dude, man. Yeah, here's the guy's name. Freshman year college.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Craig Mazin. And it's, what is it? What is his, um, his- C.L. Mazin. C.L. Mazin. C.L. M-A-Z-I-N. What kind of monster? He's fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 01:55:43 Do you saw the, I'm sure you saw the video. For not smothering Ted Cruz in his sleep in 1988. Getting emails blaming me for not smothering Ted Cruz in his sleep in 1988.
Starting point is 01:55:57 What kind of a monster do you think I am? A really prescient one? You think I knew? My freshman year college roommate Ted Cruz is going to be elected senator. In case I
Starting point is 01:56:06 hadn't made it clear, he's also a huge asshole. Things people don't have a right to stimulate their genitals. This would be a new belief of his. I was his college roommate. This would be a new belief of his. It's a funny dude.
Starting point is 01:56:24 He does it really funny. But it's like Ted Cruz, when they had that video that came out where they were all making that family, like, you know, it was supposed to be sort of a candid moment where the family's all sitting around talking. They just keep redoing it, redoing it. Did you ever see that? You never saw it? No. Oh, it's wonderful. It's wonderful.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Because they couldn't look like a real family. Well, it's wonderful. It's wonderful. Because they couldn't look like a real family. Well, it's just all fake. Like he says to his mom, one of the things he says is, my mother will pray about me, oftentimes for hours a day. And the mom goes like, Ah! And they have like
Starting point is 01:56:58 this awkward hug moment where they have to redo it. It's like so gross. Here, play some of this. I'm just thinking for a second. Who released the unedited? We're still rolling. Eleanor, why don't you say something to get him going? He sees
Starting point is 01:57:14 in people what they may not see in themselves. That's his son. That's his son? Yeah. Dude, he hates his dad Guarantee that kid Listens to this podcast What's up dude
Starting point is 01:57:29 Holla Holla at me Listen when my dad Was a scared teenage boy Listen when my dad Was a scared teenage boy Listen when my dad Was a
Starting point is 01:57:41 And he Has a gift In the way of... It was... Look at his son. This is what his son's thinking. Load the round into the chamber. Are you okay with the way that was answered?
Starting point is 01:58:04 What would it mean to America to have Ted as a president? En Español. Yo creo que... I admire my tia Sonia. That's hilarious. I admire you a lot. I'm proud of you. I'm very proud.
Starting point is 01:58:22 My tia Sonia fought against Castro in Cuba. Explain. What the fuck? How did he get elected Senator? Well, there's a lot of people out there where all you have to do, Lee Camp, is put on the right uniform. I like how you
Starting point is 01:58:40 dress. And the right voice. You have the right kind of hair. You have liberal tier hair gel. You're doing all the right. Do you have the right kind of hair. You have liberal tear hair gel. You're doing all the right. Do you have an American flag on your lapel? You do. You have an American flag pin on your lapel. Bigger than everyone else's. Well, it's distinctive.
Starting point is 01:58:55 It's a distinctive flag. That's all you have to do. Have the right, say the right things. Appeal to the right people. He was involved in some sort of a law against, or the enforcing of a law against dildos at one point. Jesus. You never saw that?
Starting point is 01:59:11 No. Wait, wouldn't that mean he can't be senator? There's a law against dildos? I forget the specifics of the law. I don't want people enjoying their sex lives. Well, there was a law in place. I can't enjoy mine. There was some sort of a law in place about sexual novelty devices, like dildos and stuff.
Starting point is 01:59:34 And he was involved in, I think it was a crazy law, too. You go to jail for two years or something like that for a dildo. Yeah. Ted Cruz defended a band on dildos. He's holding it up. Stop. Yeah. Ted Cruz defended a ban on dildos. He's holding it up. Look at his face. Like King Kong is coming in his face.
Starting point is 01:59:51 That's what it looks like right there. A ban on dildos. Yeah, this was from 2003 to 2008 when he was a solicitor general. So what do they do with like zucchinis and things? Do they ban dildo-shaped fruit? Yeah, I know, right? You can use anything if you're a girl. They're so lucky. It says, the case is an important battle concerning
Starting point is 02:00:09 privacy and free speech rights. In 2004, the companies that owned Austin stores were selling sex toys, and a retail distributor of such products challenged a Texas law outlawing the sale and promotion of supposedly obscene devices. Under the law, a person who violated the statute could go to jail for up to two years.
Starting point is 02:00:28 At the time, only three states, Mississippi, Alabama, and Virginia, had similar laws. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, this is what happened. A Texas mother who was a sales rep for passion parties was arrested by two undercover cops for selling vibrators and other sex-related goods at a gathering akin to a Tupperware party for sex toys. You fucking monsters. It's godless.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Godless. There had to be women, by the way. Yeah. This is not God. Guys would be getting their dick sucked. They'd be like, look, let's just cut the shit. I got the real thing right here. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:02 No doubt this had worried businesses peddling such wares. The plaintiffs in the sex device case contended that state law violated the right to privacy under the 14th Amendment. They argued that many people in Texas use sexual devices as an aspect of their sexual experiences, and they claimed that in
Starting point is 02:01:20 some instances one partner couple might... Okay. I get it. So anyway, Ted Cruz's team... Scroll down so we find what he did. You would just... There you go. In 2007, Ted Cruz's legal team,
Starting point is 02:01:33 working on behalf of then Attorney General Greg Abbott, filed a 76-page brief calling on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit to uphold the lower court's decision and permit the law to stand. The penal code. The penal code. Prohibits the advertisement and sale of dildos, artificial vaginas, and other obscene devices.
Starting point is 02:01:54 Oh, my God. But does not forbid the private use of such devices. That's hilarious. Jesus. So they wanted to uphold the law. That was a 76-page brief. Listen, I feel the same way about this as I do about drugs. Whatever you want to put in your body.
Starting point is 02:02:09 This is, I mean, even more innocuous. This doesn't even get you drunk. You know, you stick a dildo in you, you pull it out, you're sober. I would imagine. Listen, you don't remember about the dildo mask pair of 76. How the fuck can you file it? It could harm a lot of people. They should go to jail, all of them,
Starting point is 02:02:28 for fraud. First of all, that it took you 76 pages to figure out whether or not someone should be able to sell dildos? I mean, yeah. They should go to jail for going against the Constitution. Well, it should be four words. Who gives a fuck? That's it. Boom. Next case. Do what you want with
Starting point is 02:02:44 your plastic devices. Dude. What's it boom next case do what you want with your plastic devices dude what's it like working for rt that's fine is it cool do you like it yeah i mean here's the thing it's like all the shit i say i can't say on like any other network right they i you know i was on i was on some of these networks like one guest appearance and then i was at you know like what show was that well you last time you played me Well, the last time I was on, you played me on Fox News. The last time I was on Fox News. That was awesome. I was on MSNBC, Dylan Radigan, the only time they've ever had me on.
Starting point is 02:03:10 I was on Keith Olbermann, the only time that ever happened. So it's like... What happened when you and Keith Olbermann? Well, I was a guest host. It wasn't him, but it was Schuster. But nothing went wrong. It's just the stuff I'm saying is not...
Starting point is 02:03:20 It's not good for corporations. I feel like you're a very reasonable guy. I feel that way too. Thank you. I don't think you're saying anything too crazy. So when you're working for RT, they pretty much let you, I mean, what kind of editorial control do they have over your content? Well, I mean,
Starting point is 02:03:38 technically they have editorial control, but I'm not told to say anything I say. That's amazing. And yeah, no, it's huge freedom and, you know, I think you have RT News, which says on their website, we are the Russian perspective of the world. And then you have RT Opinion, which is me, Larry King, Jesse Ventura. Larry King. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Chris Hedges. Russia. Chris Hedges? Chris Hedges, yeah. Whoa. Abby Martin used to be there, obviously. Yeah. And so it's like great voices that it's just like, we're doing our opinion thing,
Starting point is 02:04:05 we're doing the same thing we've been doing for years. They tried to ship Abby Martin off to fucking Siberia. That was hilarious. Yeah. That was such a catastrophe. Not just for them,
Starting point is 02:04:13 but it was like CNN had her on. I went with her to a Pierce Morgan interview because they thought she was going to give their side of things. They thought she was, oh, that she's on our team now.
Starting point is 02:04:23 And it was like, no, Abby Martin knows what the fuck's going on and she said things they were like, wait, she's going off script. This is not what They thought she was, oh, that she's on our team now. And it was like, no, Abby Martin knows what the fuck's going on. And she said things, they were like, wait, she's going off script. This is not what CNN thought she'd say.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Yeah, then they wanted to bring her to fucking Ukraine. Although people think that she got fired from RT because of that. She was there for another year and then left on her own accord. It is kind of crazy
Starting point is 02:04:42 that they were thinking that they could just make her go there, though. Well, that was funny. She woke up that morning and they had announced she was going to go toward Crimea without telling her. And she was like, what? She was like, the fuck I am. The fuck I am.
Starting point is 02:04:56 That was hilarious. Could you imagine if you got up and you had heard that the government of Russia had determined that you're going to visit a war zone. Holy shit. And I don't know whether it was a PR person thought it would be a good move. I have no idea what happened. I bet it came from the top. I don't think Putin spends his time. I bet he was in the middle of a Botox session.
Starting point is 02:05:18 He was like, his mouth was numb. He's yelling out, bring her here. Bring her here. He's getting Botox. Somebody needs to tell him to stop that. Really? It's too fucking rugged for Botox. Just let it go, dude.
Starting point is 02:05:32 I was thinking the latest Brad Pitt thing. I was wondering if there was some Botox involved. Brad Pitt? Yeah. Brad Pitt was hanging out with Putin? Is that what you're saying? No, no. I saw Allied.
Starting point is 02:05:41 It's actually a great movie. Oh, his new movie? Yeah, yeah. You see some Botox in Brad? The wrinkles aren't there. Something's going on. Something fishy going on. Maybe Angelina Jolie's just got it that good.
Starting point is 02:05:53 Just gives it to you to stay young. They use that CGI stuff for a lot of people now when they're in Hollywood movies. Do they use it throughout the whole movie? Yeah, in lots of cases. I always thought it might look like that. Well, maybe that's what it is. Well, they did that for sure with Westworld with Anthony Hopkins. Spoiler alert, there's one scene where they show Anthony Hopkins back in the day.
Starting point is 02:06:13 And they have him as, you know, maybe a man in his 50s instead of in his 60s. And they do a really subtle job of CGI-ing it. It looks great. It's amazing. How far away from just, like, dead actors being in movies? Oh, 100%. Look at Tupac. He looks great. It's amazing. How far away from just dead actors being in movies? Oh, 100%. Look at Tupac. He's touring. That's true. The hologram tour. Yeah, I think
Starting point is 02:06:32 they're going to have almost... Look at that. It's amazing what they did. Oh, shit. Amazing. How do you make him skinnier, too? Well, they had him not just at this stage either, by the way. They had him in more than one stage. They had him in a slightly older stage as well. It's just... And do either by the way they had them in more than one stage they had them in a slightly older stage as well it's just uh and do you think the acting the scenes the the
Starting point is 02:06:50 the body did they get a different actor that scenes that's a good question do they pretty sure yeah it'd be a different actor and they just put a different face on wow yeah remember when they did that with the sopranos and it was terrible no the mom died and then they did one last scene with the mom, and you're like, what in the fuck led you to think that we would accept this? It was so bad.
Starting point is 02:07:13 It was so bad, and they only had her in there for a moment, but it was like somebody else's body, and her head was moving weird, and it's just like, look, here it goes. Watch. Here, play it.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Give us some volume. So, how's it going? What are you, kid? Out of sight, out of mind. Put some books on tape. Since you say you can't concentrate to read. I wish the Lord would take me now. Well, they're just using clips from shit.
Starting point is 02:07:38 Yeah. No, man. I thought there was a... Hmm. I'm confused. No. Maybe later. I don't think this is the same scene.
Starting point is 02:07:48 I think, yeah, those were just clips they had stashed. Yeah, that's not the same scene. Why don't you Google, what was the mom's name? Fake CGI mom in The Sopranos. Maybe I'm wrong. This is what came up. It says it happened. Maybe I'm wrong.
Starting point is 02:08:03 But this is just a clip that pops up. Man, when I saw it, I could have swore they had somebody else's head. Well, there are six insane attempts to make movies starring dead movie stars. Is that the next thing? During The Sopranos. Well, this says the death of Olivia Soprano is the last time you see whatever with poor CGI. That didn't look that bad, though. Maybe it's later in the clip.
Starting point is 02:08:22 Maybe it's just because we're looking at... Maybe it's later in the clip. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe they were showing her originally ah whatever we lost gandolfini bro that's rough that's rough loss okay let's just let it go so um you hear that that's the cops we've called them on you we've decided you're a little too divisive for trump's america so speaking of the cop there is a story them on you. We've decided you're a little too divisive for Trump's America. Speaking of the cops, there is a story going on right now you guys might be interested in. Remember the shoot? I think it's the shooting of Walter Scott was his name, where the gun was planted on the ground by the cop after he was shot in the back.
Starting point is 02:08:55 You look like a guy who has to pee. You okay? No, I'll be all right. No, just ears are hurting. Yeah. Yeah? The case is going on right now, and I guess they almost have a hung jury. The judge is telling them to go back and deliberate
Starting point is 02:09:08 and figure out how they can handle it, but they're trying to get out of it. So this is the one where the guy shot the guys who was running away and then threw a gun on the ground and you can see it clearly. There's like 55 witnesses gave testimony in the case. What is there to deliberate on?
Starting point is 02:09:25 We'll find out shortly They fucking shot the guy in the back We watched it on video And not only that, planted a gun And then dropped the gun Yeah, scary Dude, that's the thing If the cops want us to respect them
Starting point is 02:09:40 They've got to go after bad cops They never fucking do it, all these guys get off Yeah, they have this Well, I mean, some cops they go after like that one woman who shot that guy who remember he got tasered then she shot him on the highway he was uh he turned around he wasn't listening to them he went and got back into his car they said he was on pcp oh yeah remember that yeah what i had heard from someone is in the tactical community was that she made the gigantic error of keeping her finger on the trigger and that she wasn't doing anything and she was you're supposed to
Starting point is 02:10:09 have total yeah finger finger off the trigger because when the guy got tasered by uh the other gentleman the other cop she like reacted to it and pulled the trigger this guy in the tactical community said it happens all the time he said that's why you have to have trigger control because you don't even realize you're doing it because you're reacting to a violent moment just your muscles crunching up your whole body you have your finger on the trigger and then something violent happens and you just do that and you shoot them and that's what would happen according to him yeah i don't know if that's true yeah but i could totally see that i could say that dude that job lee camp right i there i think they're told that that guns
Starting point is 02:10:47 are that that pulling out the gun is going to solve the situation usually and it's fucking it makes it worse half the time half the time what about the other time it's perfect fucking yeah shoot away bang bang bang it's like you leave it up to them to decide when's when. When you do your show on RT, do they have guidelines for you? How much control do you have over what kind of stuff you do? Do you have a producer you have to work with? No, we have a meeting with the news director once a week, but I write all my own stuff, and it's really pretty cool. That's crazy man
Starting point is 02:11:25 what other network could give you that kind of freedom and here's the thing though is is you know i just figure like i the one thing i actually do just kind of avoid intentionally is saying nice things about russia because i know everyone's gonna think i was put up to it right and i i haven't been but i just know that's what people would accuse me of. Do you find it amazing when you look around in 2016 that there is a country like Korea where you're completely divided and one side is kind of American-like, you know, one side is South Korea and then the other side is an insane dictatorship. And they live right next door, and they look alike, and they were once one country.
Starting point is 02:12:14 And this is how it could go bad, and this is how it can go good. I think it's a fucking major problem in the way we discuss these things, the way we talk to each other, the way we view the world, that we start to think of people as their leader. Like, people thought all Americans were George george bush people think all russians are putin it's like it's the leaders that are fucking crazy yeah it's like if you go fucking chat with a russian guy you're gonna you're gonna love the dude like probably like who knows like it's like everybody around the world we're not our leaders we're not you know, the Brits aren't their crazy leader and the Australians aren't their crazy leader. And it's like people are their own people. Yeah, that's one of the reasons why having a president in the first place is kind of ridiculous. Having one alpha person, male or female, running the whole show is kind of a figurehead.
Starting point is 02:13:02 It's kind of preposterous. Yeah. the whole show is kind of figurehead. Yeah. It's kind of preposterous. Yeah. It's just bizarre that we still do it, but it's even more bizarre that someone can still pull off a dictatorship.
Starting point is 02:13:14 You know, like Korea. How does Korea end? That's the big one. How does North Korea end? How does that ever resolve itself? I have no idea. They're so deep in 2016, so locked in. Yep.
Starting point is 02:13:31 People don't want to think that it could ever happen here. It might not. It absolutely could happen. And the other thing is, in a certain way, it's the best kind of slavery is where you don't know you're a slave. So if you spend your whole life trying to work off student debt and jobs you hate, it's the best kind of slave. You don't know you're a slave. So if you spend your whole life trying to work off, you know, student debt and jobs you hate, it's like, that's kind of slave. You don't know you're a slave. Cut to headline says, Lee Camp says,
Starting point is 02:13:51 Korea is better than America. No, I am not saying that. Korea is fucking awful. Jesus. Lee Camp points to different type of slavery that makes America worse. America's worse than everywhere. No.
Starting point is 02:14:08 But it's... God, Korea's the worst. Well, Russia's a little spooky. Putin's a little spooky. Dude's jacking people. I mean, yeah. Dude's jacking people. He's a gangster. I mean, allegedly.
Starting point is 02:14:23 We're blowing people up. Yeah, we're doing that too. I don't allegedly. We're blowing people up. Yeah, we're doing that too. I don't know. I don't know either. I just know you can't talk about it probably right now. I made you uncomfortable. I should have talked about something better. China.
Starting point is 02:14:35 China's fucked up, right, bro? What's that? I said China's fucked up, right, bro? I don't know much about China either. I don't either. That's a problem. It's just amazing how... I couldn't even tell you... I shouldn't know much about China either. I don't either. That's a problem. It's just amazing how... I couldn't even tell you...
Starting point is 02:14:46 I shouldn't admit this. I couldn't even tell you China's leader right now. They have a leader? China's president? Would you think it would be a president or would it be an emperor? No, they don't have an emperor. No, it's a president, but I don't know his name. Well, what does Canada have again?
Starting point is 02:15:03 They have a... What do they have? Prime Minister. See, that's so fucking high and toddy. Trudeau. Yeah. That's the dude. China president.
Starting point is 02:15:15 Is that how you say it? Xi Jinping? I think it's Xi. Look at him. He looks trustworthy. I like him. I like what he's doing. He's smiling.
Starting point is 02:15:21 He's smiling there. Doing a good job over there. Imagine running a billion people. Fuck. That's a. He's smiling. He's smiling there. Doing a good job over there. Imagine running a billion people. Fuck. That's a crazy country, man. Have you seen the cities? Have you been to China? No, I have not.
Starting point is 02:15:32 Have you seen the cities that they recreate in China? Well, the ghost cities that they just... Oh, and the recreate. Yeah, these are two separate things. But yeah, they recreate where it's just like Paris, right?
Starting point is 02:15:41 Yeah. People just go there for a honeymoon and everything's empty. It's nuts. They recreate the's empty. It's nuts. They recreate the whole city. It's nuts. And part of the reason they do that
Starting point is 02:15:50 is because they have these ghost cities and it's because GDP measures production, partially. And so to keep their GDP up, they just build ghost cities. Like, fucking no one lives there. That's so crazy. It's nuts. Vice did a thing on it.
Starting point is 02:16:03 Now, as a comic who also has a show and you're this sort of observer of the world, do you have to look at the world more than you would like? Do I have to look at the world? Like all the crazy chaos that you have to kind of focus on, or you're doing a show and doing stand-up. I've always focused on America just simply because I'm an American in America talking about American issues. And I don't, honestly, I'm not educated well on world issues. Like I said, I couldn't tell you certain leaders of countries.
Starting point is 02:16:33 And so to me, it comes from a place of ignorance. It's like, I don't know if I want to rant and rave about something I don't know the truth about. And so I definitely stick to the American issues. But in terms of having to focus on the chaos, dude, it can get depressing to focus on all the chaos, to focus on the fucking protesters being brutalized in Standing Rock. It gets fucking exhausting. Do you throw in the occasional cute kitten story to make things better? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:56 Of course. What can you do? You've got to throw in kittens. Isn't that a weird thing about the news, though? I did one where I literally was, I just showed puppy dogs over my shoulder as I talked about it, just to like chill people out Do you feel a responsibility to chill people off all sudden this become an interview? Try not to do those, but I am curious about like what's like to put together a show like yours
Starting point is 02:17:15 Like yeah every week every week Do you feel like any sort of responsibility to like for your content like you have a platform and I feel responsibility to not be too Depressing but not per story so like i'll i'll cover fucking depressing shit but i i do feel a responsibility like in the sense of i don't think people are going to keep watching nor will they feel active to create change if they're just like ah it's all fucked fuck it right like so i i do try not to get too much on that side of things that's a logical but super depressing perspective that it's all fucked. Fuck it.
Starting point is 02:17:49 That's logic. I get it. I know why you would think that way, but God damn. Oh, I think there's a lot of people that think that way. There's a lot. Sure. That give up. They just decided I'm not voting.
Starting point is 02:17:59 There's a guy that I really respect. He's got this psychedelic salon podcast. His name is Lorenzo. He's been on this podcast before. Really interesting guy. And he runs this amazing podcast that has all these psychedelic speakers like Terrence McKenna and Alan Watts and all these like really interesting people with audio recordings of them giving lectures and stuff. Timothy Leary. And you know, he went on this rant. He's like't i don't buy into any of it anymore and i'm tired of it i'm not doing it he's like i'm tired of being disappointed i just i'm gonna
Starting point is 02:18:31 you know live my life and i'm not voting anymore and part of party goes oh man you're part of the problem you know but party goes hey man that's your right like i get it like you just want to live you just want to live and especially with people like you said earlier especially with people, like you said earlier, they're, you know, they're working three jobs trying to feed their fucking family. It's like, of course they don't have time to give a shit about five States over. These people are being brutalized. Like,
Starting point is 02:18:53 yeah, it's too hard. It's too hard to think about those people in North Dakota. You don't know them. But, but we have, we have also created a culture that is distinctly like good at getting people to ignore what really matters just like we're just under a swamp of bullshit to actually
Starting point is 02:19:12 pay attention so we important stories like do you think that that is by design or do you think that that is just what we were paying attention to like we pay attention to nonsense celebrity celebrity gossip stuff, like Brad Pitt and Angelina getting divorced. I think it's a combination of by design and just what gets ratings. You're going to get more ratings, you know, by covering Trump, let's say, or his Twitter war than you are going to get with, like, the details of how, you know, these people are having a really hard time
Starting point is 02:19:43 because they were kicked out of their home by the banks or whatever. So part of it is ratings, but part of it is by design. I mean, the fact that Occupy got very little mainstream media coverage was by design. It was like, if we cover this as an important thing, it's going to grow bigger, and we're going to fuel it. Yeah, no shit, man. Yeah, it's interesting because the things that we do get obsessed with that are ridiculous,
Starting point is 02:20:11 that take up so much of our time, that really mean nothing, you know, when you look at all the stuff that we do ignore, you know, like the guy that got iced that was under FBI care, like that never gets talked about, whether or not you agree with whether they should have shot him or not. Right. You're allowed to execute people now?
Starting point is 02:20:29 Right. Is that what's going on? Right. That might be a big issue. We should probably discuss it. Right. That's just one, right? There's a million different stories.
Starting point is 02:20:36 It's amazing that the Standing Rock story has become as big as it is, really. That and Bernie Sanders and all that, like, and even Black Lives Matter, it's like, the reason, and, you know, I'm not saying everybody's got to love Bernie or agree with all that shit, but I'm saying the fact that those got as big as they are, it's all because of citizen journalism and social media and all that stuff. The internet. The ability to make your own news site. I mean, news sites are no—all you need is a website. The gatekeepers are gone. Yeah. Not only are they gone, but the amount of people that pay attention to certain alternative media sources
Starting point is 02:21:11 far exceeds what you get in a daily episode of the Bill O'Reilly show. How many millions of people do you think listen to Bill O'Reilly? Oh, Jesus. I don't even want to know. I would like to know. What do you think? It's going to make me sad. It's going to make me sad.
Starting point is 02:21:25 I might have been off by saying him. Does he get 2 million viewers a show? Do you think he gets 2 million viewers a show, Jamie? Let's see. I say yes. I say he gets more than 2 million a show. That's the kind of confidence I have. How much are we betting? 2.2.
Starting point is 02:21:43 How much are we betting? I'll bet you five American dollars. Did you hear about the vegan $5 thing in England? They came out with a new banknote, and it's using animal fat. Vegans are freaking out and demanding a vegan note. You know what? They got a good point. I talked about this in my stand-up last night. A lot of dryer sheets have animal fat on them.
Starting point is 02:22:03 And so if you're a vegan, that's fucking... Oh my God, the dryer sheets, those fucking cling-free ones that make you smell so good? Snuggles is a psychopath. That's crazy. It's got rendered up beings inside of it. What did we find out on Bill O'Reilly? Article from earlier this year says he
Starting point is 02:22:21 averaged about 3 million... Thank you. Oh! Thank you. Thank you. Oh! Thank you. Thank you. A bunch of scared old people. Look out for Mexicans! Just yelling at the screen. They're rapists! I wonder what the age of the people that watch his show is.
Starting point is 02:22:38 Yeah, I know it's like 50. It's like, yeah. Okay, let's get really crazy. What's the percentage of them are white? Do you think they're going to tell us that? All of them. 100%. They go through the entire United States.
Starting point is 02:22:50 There's not a single black guy. Like, we heard about a guy in Virginia. Quick, let's go. Before he shuts it off, they fucking break into the guy's house. There's always one nutty Ben Carson out there. You're right. Listen, there's always that guy. You're right.
Starting point is 02:23:03 You're right. This is a black duck hunter. They're right. There's that black duck hunter. They're out there. They're fucking out there. You're so right. Dude, Clarence Thomas hates black people. You think so? Hates them.
Starting point is 02:23:15 Wow. That's a big statement, sir. He's a Supreme Court justice. I know. And no one rules in ways that are going to harm black people more than Clarence Thomas. Does he really? Yeah. He hates him.
Starting point is 02:23:27 And his wife is, you know, he's never said he hates him, but his wife is, she's one of the heads or head speakers of the Tea Party. There's still a Tea Party? The Tea Party sort of fizzled out when Sarah Palin joined up. They're like, ah, shit. I think that's like having an open party and that crazy drunk from down the street comes in with a gun like, whoa, shit. It's like having an open party and that crazy drunk down the street comes in with a gun like, whoa, America, right?
Starting point is 02:23:48 I'm like, all right, I'm going home. Time to end the party. Wait, is there furniture made out of survival food? I got to go. I got to go. The Jim Baker survival foods. I'd love to see the first time he presented that. Listen, things get bad. we start eating the furniture.
Starting point is 02:24:07 I'd like to see how they decided to sell it that way. They said, well, what are people going to do with all these, Jim? They've got these big barrels. You're selling a lot of barrels. What are they going to do with these barrels? Well, well, well, well, well, they'll just put it under the table. Well, where are your feet going to go, Jim? You're going to eat from a fucking distance away from the table, you goddamn con man.
Starting point is 02:24:30 Jessica Hahn was right. Where are people going to get planks of wood to go on top at such a size? It's the King Arthur's round table of survival food. Are you a fan of the glorious stand-up days in the 1980s, like the Kennesan era? Dude, I'm sad. When did you start stand-up? 88 the 1980s, like the Kennison era? Dude, I'm sad. When did you start stand-up? 88. Yeah, I'm sad I missed it. Well, I missed...
Starting point is 02:24:51 I mean, I was kind of an open-miker in the 80s. I missed it, for the most part, but I was a fan. But that was back when Jim Baker had that gigantic scandal because he was this big online minister guy, and he was banging his secretary. Yeah, Playboy. It was Jessica Hahn. Playboy revealed it.
Starting point is 02:25:06 Yeah. Yeah. And Kenison started banging her. What? Yes. After she left, she got fake boobs. Did she know him from his pastor days? I do not think so.
Starting point is 02:25:16 I think he just zoomed in. Yeah. He was attracted to this. He knew those nutty Christian swinger types. He's like, I know them. I've been around them. So he- Wow. That was a bad Kenison impression, by the way. And so he started banging her.
Starting point is 02:25:29 She got fake boobies. She posed for one of them, Penthouse or something. One of them magazines, Playboy. Good old days. Yeah, those days were nuts. Just amazing to see Jim Baker still out there rocking it. Kenison's long gone, but. Kenison's dead as fuck.
Starting point is 02:25:44 Baker's selling food and furniture mixed together. Eat your couch. We'll be right back. Praise Jesus. Fill your couch cushion with steaks. Enchiladas. There's like a scene in that video where he has this girl. He's like, you got some Mexican blood in you.
Starting point is 02:25:59 Tell me about these enchiladas. What? I'm not kidding. She's eating this enchilada. It looks like a tampon from a zoo animal. That's what it looks like. He's about to cut into this fucking thing. It doesn't look anything remotely appetizing.
Starting point is 02:26:13 It's a survival enchilada? A survival enchilada. And he's talking to her. He's like, you got some Mexican blood, don't you? Oh, God. That super deluxe guy who put that video together, he's a beauty. He's a beauty. He's a gift.
Starting point is 02:26:27 A gift to all of us here on this planet. It's a fucking hilarious video because he just found the most preposterous scenes and edited them in an amazing way where he closes in on his face when he says really nutty shit. That guy's still rocking it, man. Still got people in the audience. Still got people in the audience Still got people in the audience They're all brain dead, one eye bigger than the other They're not even just watching at home There's people that are there
Starting point is 02:26:54 Well, I'll make it out to the studio Jim's gonna give a sermon today About survival furniture Please tell me that studio has a warm-up comic Hey, ladies and gentlemen We're gonna need you to really give it up here. Have you ever seen one of those guys that does Christian church comedy? Have you ever seen that?
Starting point is 02:27:13 Oh, no, but I've heard about it. It's a big thing. I've never watched it. They do enormous venues, enormous, 25,000 seat venues, and they do church comedy. And I'm not kidding. They have stand-up comics that do clean Christian comedy and they only perform with these like church gatherings I'd kill yourself. Well, it's a totally different sort of a vibe. It's like yeah, this agreed-upon note that you're gonna hit It's like if you were an opera singer. It's like what we can't play rap. No. No, we do opera
Starting point is 02:27:40 Alright, but that's what they're doing. They're doing like a form of opera Yeah, like I understand that for you or for me, that would be a horrific proposition. But for someone who enjoys that tone. Right. Like, they hit that fucking Amos and Andy, you know, Andy Griffith fucking. Hey, and there's someone that enjoys scooping up the shit behind the elephants at the circus. Yeah, look at this guy. It's a job for everybody.
Starting point is 02:28:02 This guy's doing Jesus comedy. Wait, this is the. Oh, that's the guy with the TV show, right? The Browns. Yeah. Oh, that's the guy who has the big hot dog rolls in the back of his head. Hot dog rolls.
Starting point is 02:28:15 The back of his neck looks like hot dog rolls. That's a pastor. Yeah, that's Mr. Brown. Oh, I didn't know. I always wondered where that family sitcom thing came from. That does look like stand-up. Let me hear some of this. Let me hear what sounds like stand-up. Oh, I didn't know. I always wondered where that family sitcom thing came from. That does look like stand-up. Let me hear some of this. Let me hear what sounds like stand-up.
Starting point is 02:28:29 What is this? Turn and look at, I don't even like my neighbor. Yeah, he's doing stand-up. And I know y'all pastor don't do this, but sometime my pastor starts preaching, and I can't understand what he's saying. He'll get to preaching, and he'll start, and the doorbell rings. What's that? Oh, he's doing stand-up, 100%. People are laughing. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 02:28:57 No, he did not. And they're bobbing up and down, forward and back. That's another thing. It's an agreed-upon tune. It's an agreed- agreed upon sort of frequency. No, yeah. You got to hit in these certain notes. And we all agree that we're going to not curse. Yeah, I mean, that's the whole thing about being a gentleman, right?
Starting point is 02:29:18 Not curse. Yep. When you're wearing a tie and a suit and nice clothes like that, I expect you to understand a certain etiquette. You're not a ragabond. You're not a savage. You're not some sort of hooligan. You're not some dude with fucking high-top Converse on and ripped jeans and fucking dirty shirt. No, you're dressed in a way that I could predict your behavior. Well, we do the same with a flea of tattoos, right?
Starting point is 02:29:44 Yeah, for sure. A lot of people think they can predict you. Or a pocket watch. I have predict your behavior. Well, we do the same with a flea of tattoos, right? Yeah, for sure. A lot of people think they can predict you. Or a pocket watch. I have a pocket watch. But with a chain? Yeah. From a vest? Well, right now I have it hanging out of my pocket.
Starting point is 02:29:53 Do you really? Let me see your pocket watch. I was talking the other day about everyone with a pocket watch is an asshole. I'm going to have to amend that. I'm an asshole. I like you. I'm an asshole. Come on, you're not an asshole.
Starting point is 02:30:00 You're a nice guy. Let me see your pocket watch. Because we looked up one that cost how many millions of dollars? This is $35. It was from the 70s. This is dope. I changed it. I'm getting a pocket watch. I'm going the other way.
Starting point is 02:30:15 I'm not married to my thoughts, folks. You shouldn't be either. He doesn't even stick to his beliefs on pocket watches. This is dope. This really is dope. I love it. That's really cool. Obviously, I just have it for fun. Yeah, but it's fucking cool.
Starting point is 02:30:28 It's not right at all. No. Because you got to keep winding it. That's weird. I forget to wind it. How often do you have to wind it? Like several hours. What?
Starting point is 02:30:40 Every few hours? That's so stupid. Why'd you buy a cheap one? Why didn't you buy one that actually works? Do you want people to know? Look, man's so stupid. Why'd you buy a cheap one? Why didn't you buy one that actually works? Do you want people to know? Look, man, I'm in. It works. It works.
Starting point is 02:30:50 I'm a Mumford & Sons video walking around. Mumford & Sons video. I'm a walking, living, breathing Mumford & Sons song. So the key is you can only have one of these things. Like, if I had the curly mustache, too, then you can't have the pocket watch and the curly mustache. Right. I couldn't have this pocket watch and your hat right now.
Starting point is 02:31:07 Right, right. Like, that's bad. And a vest. Yeah. I'm talking shit about, I'm wearing a, like, Bill Burr says, a little rascal's hat, and I have a fanny pack that's real, 100% legit. A little rascal's hat. I'm a little upset at Apple that I had to buy this new little thing that allows me to charge my phone and play music with an actual set
Starting point is 02:31:28 of fucking headphones instead of their bullshit proprietary crap. Now I got it. I got it set up. Jesus. So that's your fanny packs filled with those devices? And weed and Fear Factor money. And Fear Factor money. It's just filled with Fear Factor money.
Starting point is 02:31:45 I just carry around a knot to comfort me. Yeah, I did it, but look what I got out of it, you fuck. Shut up, you would have done it too. How much of doing that show was fun? Well, I was high every episode. So there's always fun things every day. And I worked with people that I really loved. They were really nice people.
Starting point is 02:32:01 So you were having a good time. I had a great time because the people that I work with, like all the guys behind the scene, super, super nice guys. And I'm still friends with to this day. So there was a lot of fun involved, but it wasn't what I wanted to do. It was just money. So there was, it was moments where it was hilarious. And there's moments where I was really like touched.
Starting point is 02:32:17 I cried once when this mom and daughter team won. Like they were, there was a son and father team versus a mother daughter team and the Southern father team kind of douchey and the mother and daughter team were kind of sweet And then you looked at them And this is a physical stunt and the father was like kind of in shape and the kid looked like he's kind of shape like God damn it these girls the mom and the daughter are gonna lose right and they really needed the money and the Son was kind of insulting you know the people play the game it's part of it they're encouraged encouraged to be insulting but he fucked up and then the mom and
Starting point is 02:32:53 daughter won Wow and when they won like the whole crew was crying ah camera people were crying so it actually got real oh yeah real yeah. It got real. Because they were crying. You know, because like, oh my God. We won all this fucking money. We did it. That's cool. Against the odds. That's cool.
Starting point is 02:33:10 Yeah. So those moments were nice. Yeah, I saw you years ago doing stand-up. It was probably when Fear Factor had come back the second time or something. Mm, 2011-ish. Yeah, and I just stopped by Comedy Store and was watching it. And it was fucking hilarious because he did a bit on like, hey, listen, I know. If you'd said to me, would you be on TV daring someone to eat a bull penis? I would have said, no, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:33:34 Yeah, how is it even possible? The joke was that I'm on TV and someone's eating an animal dick. And I'm like, hey, you can do more. You can get more in there. And the people running the show are like, good job. That was great. The more dick they eat, the better. The more dick they eat.
Starting point is 02:33:57 Really. I mean, we really did serve people animal dicks. We served them elk dick, bull dick, a couple different types of dicks. Who was the intern in charge of collecting the dicks? Well, it wasn't an intern. It was a bee stunt guy. There was a couple different ones, but Josh Silberman was one of the guys who did it towards the end, and he was awesome at it. He knew his fucking craft. That guy knew how to get the most disgusting stuff. They all have a twisted sense of humor, too. They all have this very bizarre realization of what they're doing, how preposterous it is.
Starting point is 02:34:32 You know, you're making people bob for cow hearts in a vat of blood. That was one of them. These people had to bob. Oh, wow. So they go into a writer's room. They're like, what's the grossest thing we can come up with? Yeah. Some of the stuff was insane. That, wow. So they go into like a writer's room. Yeah. They're like, what's the grossest thing we can come up with? Yeah. Some of the stuff was insane.
Starting point is 02:34:48 That's nuts. We went to a slaughterhouse once. That was one of the first times that I ever believed. Like when we went to the slaughterhouse, I was like, I really do believe that places hold a feeling. You know? Like I had never been to a place where like, who knows how many thousands of animals have died.
Starting point is 02:35:05 If not maybe a million. Maybe even more. I don't know how long I'd have been around for. But it was like a legit, big-time slaughterhouse. Was there slaughtering going on? Not what we saw, but very recently. Because we had to do this scene with blood. And when you have blood, you have to keep it very cold.
Starting point is 02:35:23 And you can only keep it that way for a short amount of time because it could go bad and you can get sick from it. Because these people have to dunk their head into this stuff. So they have goggles on and they have to dunk their head in. They're bobbing in this freezing cold blood. So your body doesn't want to do it because it's so goddamn cold. I can't imagine the number of lawyers involved in all this. Dude, so while this is going on, there's a guy who's about to do the show. And he's outside and he's talking to do the show, and he's outside, and he's
Starting point is 02:35:46 talking to himself in the side mirror of a truck. He's got one of those side mirrors of the truck. It's not his truck, but he's the competitor, so he's like, you found a mirror, and he's like, you are a winner. You are not a loser. You will succeed. You will follow through. You will get it done. And he's doing all this
Starting point is 02:36:01 pep-up stuff, and he's doing little sprints up and down the driveway. It's the same thing Ted Cruz's kids say to themselves before they talk to him. Probably. You will follow through. You can talk to him. You will get it done. You will talk to dad. Dad, I'm gay.
Starting point is 02:36:16 No! Anything else, Lee Camp? Anything to add? No, that's amazing. I heard something about This American Life went into a slaughterhouse, like a pig slaughterhouse, but it was while it was going on. And like two of them left like mid, you know, segment and went and vomited outside.
Starting point is 02:36:37 And then like, yeah, it's madness. Well, that's one of those things, like many things in our culture, it's like prisons that we were talking about before. How did it get to this point? Because we kind of realized it was at this point as adults. Do you remember the day that you became aware of factory farming? You were probably a grown adult. Right, and we habituate to these things.
Starting point is 02:36:57 We get used to them. We're just accustomed to like, it's like it's slowly, we're accustomed to so many people being in prison. It just slowly grows and we slowly accept it. We slowly accept the invasion of privacy. It used to be that anyone watching your email, people would talk about it. They were upset. Now it's like everyone assumes.
Starting point is 02:37:13 And the same thing can be said about factory farming. I mean, the immediate answer is, well, offer an upper solution. There's no solutions. What about the, we need the numbers. We need the numbers of burgers. We need the numbers of chicken. Wow. You know, we've really painted ourselves into a strange corner here.
Starting point is 02:37:31 Well, there's no reason that, you know, a hamburger at McDonald's should be cheaper than, like, a thing of broccoli at the store. It's like we're just subsidizing this massive meat intake. Yeah. And the corn industry, too. That's another dark one. Three out of every four products in the grocery store have corn in them.
Starting point is 02:37:47 Jesus Christ. We're basically just 90% corn now. Yeah. I saw that documentary, King Corn. Have you seen that? No.
Starting point is 02:37:53 They test their DNA. Yeah. Yeah, they test the carbon in their DNA. They're carbon in their fucking very virtual being and it's like predominantly corn.
Starting point is 02:38:03 These guys are, they're doing this documentary and they start off growing their own corn. It's really fast. It's called King Corn. We're corn with hats on now. A little bit, dude. That sugar, that corn syrup stuff that's in everything. Corn protein.
Starting point is 02:38:16 Yeah. But meanwhile, corn on the cob is wonderful. It's delicious. It's like one of those things. It's delicious. A good thing can be bad if there's too much of it right everything in moderation except for moderation you try and get all that you can we can't ladies and gentlemen he's here all week dropping it dropping the bombs where are you uh were you uh doing stand-up where
Starting point is 02:38:37 someone could come see you oh i'm i don't know i'm touring the country but uh we do have a live audience we're redacted tonight in D.C. Oh, beautiful. Anytime, people. Tonight in D.C. is you're flying out. You're a fucking animal, dude. No, not tonight in D.C. What are you saying? You're lying to people.
Starting point is 02:38:51 I didn't say tonight. You're a politician. I didn't say tonight. Didn't he say tonight? You did say tonight. Oh, Redacted tonight. It's the name of the show. Oh.
Starting point is 02:38:57 Redacted tonight. We thought you were saying redacted. Tonight. Pause. Tonight. Gotcha. No. Every week except for this one.
Starting point is 02:39:04 Loophole. The guy got away on a loophole. That. Tonight. Gotcha. No, every week except for this one. Loophole. The guy got away on a loophole. That slippery politician. We have a live audience and people can comment if they just, what, email redacted tics at Gmail. So you do everything in, so RT is in D.C. That's where RT was too, right? Yeah, RT America's big studios are in D.C., yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:20 What is D.C. like these days? What a weird environment that must be. It's a hellhole. It's free weed though. It's legal, right? Well, it's legal, but you can't be just publicly smoking. It's like... What do you have to do? You're dead? I was talking to someone.
Starting point is 02:39:35 I was like, what are the rules? They were like, oh, you got to go around the corner. The law is you got to go around the corner? What does that mean? You just can't be out on the sidewalk. If you had to guess, how long before state, like countrywide legalization? Ten years, maybe less.
Starting point is 02:39:53 You think so? Yeah. What makes you think that? Well, the states that have legalized it are doing fine. They're doing better than fine. Yeah. And so it's like people realize it's not, you just had to get past this propaganda of,
Starting point is 02:40:04 it's like destroys lives, it's scary, it's oh. And once you, and you're past that. What do you think about that Jeff Sessions guy, though, that Trump brought in? Yeah. That guy is old school anti, he used one of my favorite ones, good people don't smoke marijuana. I'd love to know the list of drugs that Donald Trump has done over the years Salt Coke, Coke, Coke, Coke, Coke, Adderall, Coke, Coke, Coke, Coke Do you think he does drugs?
Starting point is 02:40:30 He doesn't drink apparently Not anymore, I don't think he does Apparently he doesn't drink Not anymore Remember when they were accusing him on CNN of doing Coke? That he was potentially doing Coke Oh, he kept sniffing Yeah
Starting point is 02:40:38 I think that was just his like, you know, buffalo brain Just bull. Got her with that zinger. You'd be in jail. Yeah, yeah. That was the zinger of the campaign, wasn't it? It's pretty good. Did you enjoy the whole festivities?
Starting point is 02:40:57 Did you enjoy the nonsense of it all? Were you upset by it? No. I don't know. I just kind of, it's all, I did one segment where I took, honestly, it was like three minutes of the two of them talking during the debate, and just every half sentence I would stop it and go,
Starting point is 02:41:11 that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's bullshit. Like, every, it's like everything, every word that comes out is somehow a manipulation. And it was just like, it's... On both sides. On both sides. And I just, I was like, this is, I tried to cover it as little as I could. I mean, I still covered it a lot, but I tried to avoid it as much as I could, because it was just like, it's on both sides on both sides. And, and I just, I was like, this is, I tried to cover it as little as I could. I mean, I still covered it a lot, but I tried to avoid it as much as I could.
Starting point is 02:41:29 Cause it's just a fucking sideshow. My most frustrating thing of the campaign wasn't just that. Cause I, I was aware that there was a lot of things that were being said that weren't true. Was that there was very few people doing what you just said, where you were covering it on both sides, saying that's not true, that's not true, that's not true, that's not true. If you go back and forth from a right-wing show to a left-wing show, it's hard to pay attention. It's hard to know what the hell is really going on.
Starting point is 02:41:55 It's two different realities. And no one was doing what you just said you were doing, going the whole thing, like, hey, this is all crazy. These people are lying. They're wrong wrong They're lying Now what Now what Lee Camp What do we do
Starting point is 02:42:08 Do we energize Bernie We gotta get him on Hormone replacement therapy Keep him alive longer I think you should go Get him on a training regimen I'm gonna get him Doing deadlifts
Starting point is 02:42:18 We gotta get him To fix that posture too This shit You can't Nobody wants that I'm just taking Thumbs I want you to put it wants it. I just take your thumbs I want you to put it under your chin. I want to force it up
Starting point is 02:42:27 every day when you wake up. I want you to sit up straight. This is very important, Bernie. You can't be doing this. Listen, this comes from 30 years of trying to change the government. I'm so tired. It just shrinks you into a diamond. Plus snow shoveling.
Starting point is 02:42:43 I think what he should do is he should run in four years, but he should say, I'm only going to serve for four years. Nobody wants that. You don't have the endurance and the stamina to go eight, and then Trump's going to come in. I've got endurance. I've got a winning attitude, and he's going to win again. Trump's like overweight. He doesn't look great, though. He doesn't look great.
Starting point is 02:43:03 Whatever cocktail he's on is fucking carrying him through like a champ. I'm telling you, you could say about his appearance all you want. You'd be absolutely correct. But he never showed any signs of physical deterioration. No, I think he's okay, but he is relatively overweight. He's not like a healthy man. Definitely not. Yeah, no, if I was his his friend I would definitely get him on
Starting point is 02:43:25 some sort of an excellent diet I'd be like there's a way to do this better you know you allow even more energy and you're a goddamn dynamo as it is that was a real concern to the Hillary Clinton health concern and when you would bring it up people would say you're an asshole for discussing love and that you're a sexist or you're enabling in some sort of a way. Like, no, these are legitimate concerns. She had a stroke. Yeah, I mean, and I don't honestly, a lot of it, I don't know the truth of it. I shouldn't say she had a stroke.
Starting point is 02:43:52 She had, excuse me, she fainted. She blacked out. She had a seizure, fell, and cracked her head. That's been confirmed. And then she had another seizure, apparently apparently in 2015 that was discussed during the wiki and what was the one where where bill clinton in an interview he was like he was like oh yeah she has these spells every once in a while any anyway the point is like i don't know what what the truth of every last detail that is but it was like it was like they're not they're not talking
Starting point is 02:44:19 about that in a legitimate way they're not talking about the fact that donald trump won't release his medical records he had one doctor write a five minute thing and said, oh, it's the healthiest guy that's ever lived. What the fuck is that? They just dick. It's not orange. It's a regular color. That'd be weird, though. You can't have your dick a different color from the face. If you're gonna go orange, you gotta go all orange.
Starting point is 02:44:38 All the way down on his toes is orange. Except like a little strip down his butthole, like when people like tan under like a spray tanning thing and then do porno. That'd be amazing if he had just a really tiny bikini line. Well, you know how people like if you – do you remember what it would be like if people would sit in a tanning bed? Like tanning beds have kind of gotten out of favor.
Starting point is 02:44:58 But one of the things about tanning beds, they would leave weird sort of semi-white spots on your butt because your cheeks kind of compress. And so like your cheeks touch each other when you're lying flat on that thing. So in between your butt cheeks gets pale. Like unless you're making like a real concerted effort to spread your asshole out and sort of hover over that suntan booth for a good solid 20 minutes or however long it takes you. I'm sure Donald Trump has people spread his cheeks for him. Probably.
Starting point is 02:45:28 In the tanner. They just smooth it all out. Listen, get my cheek spreaders. Get them in here. Get them in. Yeah, I don't think he's using. I think it's probably a spray tanning type thing. It wasn't.
Starting point is 02:45:42 Maybe he just drinks a lot of carrot juice and we're just being assholes. There's no way. Maybe. Andy Dick used to do that. There's some kind of spray thing he's going't. Maybe he just drinks a lot of carrot juice and we're just being assholes. There's no way. Maybe. Andy Dick used to do that. Spray thing. I've seen people do that. Was Andy Dick? They drink so much carrot juice
Starting point is 02:45:51 that their skins get orange. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was drinking so much carrot juice that his fingers started getting, and he was talking about it. It's apparently super common
Starting point is 02:45:59 when people do that. They drink a tremendous amount of carrot juice. It literally will change the color of your skin. It didn't look too weird until he brought it up. And you're like, oh, wow. It wasn't like, dude, are you okay?
Starting point is 02:46:09 You going orange on us? It's a good thing corn's not blue. It'll be blue. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. Very good thing. How do you have time to do your show and do stand-up? Is that difficult to do?
Starting point is 02:46:21 Yeah, it is. I've only been doing stand-up when I go out to cities and I'll play a theater or something, but I haven't been getting up as much as I would like. So you basically just do your show, and does a lot of the subject matter just bleed out in your stand-up? Because of working on this stuff, you must find some pretty absurd subjects. Yeah, most of my stand-up comes from stuff from the show. Because it's just like, I can't fucking... I basically have two TV shows. One of them, luckily, is an interview show.
Starting point is 02:46:50 So it doesn't fill up as much of my writing time. But I've got to write the whole other show every week. And so I just don't have time to write new stand-up. So the stand-up usually becomes a stuff that was in the show. Are you planning on doing a special or anything anytime soon? Well, we just filmed this Redacted Tonight Live, we called it or whatever, in Laugh Factory, and we're going to air portions of that at the end of December on our YouTube channel. So that'll be a bit of a special.
Starting point is 02:47:17 Oh, so you did it like as stand-up? Yeah, as stand-up. Oh, okay, cool. Well, because I passed by the Laugh Factory. I put it up on my Instagram the other day. I passed by the Laugh Factory. I put it up on my Instagram the other day. I passed by the Laugh Factory. Look at Lee Camp's got a billboard. Got a billboard.
Starting point is 02:47:29 Does that feel weird? Driving down, seeing your face? It's weird, but here's the thing. As you well know, all it means is someone had some money to do that. It doesn't really mean anything. I'm your friend. I took a picture of it, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:47:41 I was impressed. Thank you. I was like, look at Lee Camp, balling. You've never, from one of your new albums, you've never done the Laugh Factory billboard? No, I've never had the Laugh Factory billboard before. You could have. I want it. One day, you'll get there.
Starting point is 02:47:53 One day. Tell people what's the best way to get a hold of you, what's the best way to see your stuff, what's your website. Everyone should check out the show at youtube.com slash redactedtonight, but everything else is pretty much LeeCamp.net and at LeeCamp on Twitter. And your show's on RT and on YouTube, the same exact show? Yeah. Oh, that's beautiful. We put it all.
Starting point is 02:48:13 Yeah, it's unlike daily shows. I think we put it all on YouTube. Oh, that's nice. That's nice. That's very cool. So you don't have to have RT to get it. Nope. These crazy kids that are untethered.
Starting point is 02:48:23 Untethered. Free. Free as a bird. They don't give a fuck. Free as a terror bird. They're out there bit-torrenting. Alright, well, that's how you get all your stuff out, LeeCamp.com.
Starting point is 02:48:36 LeeCamp.net. And when can people see you again? When is your next tour date? Where are you at? Anywhere? Next tour date, yes. I'm playing, like, Cleveland and Pittsburgh in the new year, and I have Chapel Hill and D.C. coming up December 9th and 10th. Very funny guy. Go out and see him. Lee Camp, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 02:48:51 Thank you, sir. Love you, Joe. Thank you, man. Always a pleasure. Love you as well. Folks, we're done for the week. Not yet, bitches. Tomorrow, fight companion.
Starting point is 02:48:59 Full onslaught. Brian Callen, Eddie Bravo, Brendan Shaw, plus alcohol and marijuana. Pizzagate. Hashtag Pizzagate. What is hashtag?

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