The Joe Rogan Experience - #896 - CES Review with Young Jamie

Episode Date: January 10, 2017

Joe chats with Young Jamie about his recent trip to the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas to see what's coming out this year. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yee-haw, ladies and gentlemen. It's the CES wrap-up with Young Jamie. Hey. Hey. So you decided to go to the Consumer Electronics Show, this big, gigantic expo that they have in Vegas every year. It's like the show for new computer gadgetry everything and like anything you'd see at like a fries or best buy from all the way down to anything that'd be in a car anything in a
Starting point is 00:00:31 kitchen anything in a bedroom anything consumer electronics basically so the show is essentially everything that's coming out all the stuff that's on its way out uh things that have just been announced i think and then i think most of the stuff that's supposed to be coming out for sale this year. Okay, so some of it is we were just about to get into it, but we were like, God, you've got to save it for the podcast. You were saying that some of it you think they're kind of bullshitting? I saw a lot of things that I just thought they might not be ready or they're prototypes. And just like at a car show, too, there are some things they're just showing you,
Starting point is 00:01:01 like this is what we can do right now. This isn't even what's going to be available. This is what we can do. Maybe if there't even what's going to be available this is what we can do maybe if there's a lot of interest we'll make it for instance there was this a really cool laptop uh that has three screens on it now so it's a gaming laptop that you can get some sort of crazy but they were just prototypes too and two of them just got stolen last night or two days ago no after the event so they're trying to get them taken back so No. They stole prototypes? Yeah, I don't know how that could have even happened.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Oh, how gross. How gross to think that some nerds are thieves. I know. Right? Wouldn't you like to think that whoever you have to be to be an innovator in technology and electronics, you would have to be some super fucking smart guy. You would think you'd just leave every room open with people like that.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Wouldn't you like to think that? Yeah, for sure you'd like to. Yeah. But it's a cunning world. I know, but I mean, that's fucking crazy. You know what's, dude, I'm balls deep into House of Cards right now. First season. I didn't know there's so many seasons.
Starting point is 00:02:01 It started in 2012. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's three seasons, I think. That's it? I think so, yeah. So did they take a long time to make a season? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think they completed it, and then they shot the whole thing,
Starting point is 00:02:14 then wrote it again. Fuck. It's a good goddamn show, dude. I don't want to spoiler alert you anything. Don't you dare, you son of a... How many episodes are there, do you think? It's probably 11 or 12 in each one, so 35-ish, 36. God damn, it's a good show.
Starting point is 00:02:30 That Kevin Spacey's a motherfucker. Woo! Yeah, ups and downs. Oh, don't you tell me nothing! Don't you tell me nothing! The dumbest shit ever is discussing a show. You know, like, today, in this day and age, it's not like you could talk about Lost because it was just on the air.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You know, when we were watching Lost, that's how recent this DVR thing and this streaming thing has become. When we were watching Lost, that wasn't that long ago, man, and everybody waited until it came on the next week. And you could DVR it but you didn't you didn't binge watch wasn't there even that uh they even did things weird where they would show like three episodes and then take a four-week break and then to show two more and then take another break do you remember how that would work and then I think the writers strike happened in
Starting point is 00:03:18 the middle of it too so there was a longer I think there's a little gap too. I think I came into Lost, I think I got the DVD of like the second, like when the second season was out of the first season. I think that's how I got into it. I'm kind of trying to remember now. I really enjoyed it up until the end. But I'll never forget this one moment. There was this one moment where they were all standing around this pond. And it was like some pond that like brings you back to life or some shit like that. And they were like, I don't remember what the scene was.
Starting point is 00:03:53 But it was something insane. And they're sitting there with their arms crossed, waiting for their turn to talk. The scene was so flat and fake. I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. You guys are in front of a magical lake right now. You're not freaking out. Like, this is how you respond when you're just standing there with your arms crossed like,
Starting point is 00:04:12 yep, just another magic lake. Whatever the fuck it was. I was like, I can't do this anymore. I can't do it anymore. Plus, they killed Charlie. Once they killed Charlie, I was super bummed out. That was such a sad day. That was probably the best episode of the whole show.
Starting point is 00:04:28 God. They tied everything together. What a great show that was. Up until the end. In the end, I was like, okay, we're good. This just happens with the show, right? It's like relationships sometimes. Just like, okay, it was great in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Enough. Enough fucking zombies. Enough this. Enough ogres. relationship sometimes just like okay okay it was great in the beginning enough yeah enough fucking zombies enough this enough ogres enough that that's kind of how i am with game of thrones no offense to those how dare you well it's enough of the dragons don't shut your mouth that's the one i haven't lost any enthusiasm for. But I got to tell you, Westworld was so good. I got sucked in so quick. And the possibilities are so fascinating.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Because they're timeline jumping. And it's just, it's really interesting to me. It's kind of, they didn't, they weren't up for many Golden Globes on that. But HBO didn't win anything. And I only remember seeing one or two Westworld people even up for anything. It was kind of shitty. Maybe they missed the nomination date. I don't know. How could you not nominate that show?
Starting point is 00:05:33 That was awesome. Fuck, that show was good. That's crazy. Well, it just shows you, if that is the case, maybe it's just there's a lot of other shows that are even more awesome that we're just not aware of yet. This seems like the golden age for TV shows. It really does. Yeah, the show that won, I hadn't
Starting point is 00:05:50 heard, is called The Night Manager. It won Hugh Laurie, who used to be House. He won an award for that, and the other guy, Tom Hiddleston, won another award. Somebody was just telling me about that. It was like a short six, seven episodes, I think. It's a Netflix thing, right? It might be on Netflix now, but I think it was on something else originally.
Starting point is 00:06:07 See, this is an amazing time for television. Think about all the great shows. I haven't seen the OA yet, but I keep hearing that's amazing. I've heard that's good, too. It's supposed to be, I don't even want to say what it's supposed to be. You're not even supposed to know too much about it before you watch it. That's the best way to do these. It's for sure a good way to be. You're not even supposed to know too much about it before you watch it. That's like the best way to do these. It's for sure a good way to go.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Like Stranger Things. I didn't know shit about Stranger Things until I jumped in. Didn't know a goddamn thing. I still haven't hit play on it yet. Fuck, it's good, dude. Yeah. It's good. It's good.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Don't let Red Band steer you wrong. He doesn't like it. Some things just seep. You just see a tweet sometimes. It just seeps in your head I don't know what it is about the day you see it Or the timing You're just like fuck that show
Starting point is 00:06:49 I've never seen it I don't care It probably would have been awesome if you hit play But somebody says It's the first thing you heard about it And now you're fucked And then you're like well Sometimes you watch it and you're surprised I don't even know how often that happens when you're surprised on something you see.
Starting point is 00:07:07 It's so hard to tell because people's tastes vary so much. It's almost like they're watching something different than you. And who you are, like as a person, your life experiences and what that show means to you when you're watching it. It's so different for all of us like for each one of us is different that's what's weird about television it's what's weird about books and music and comedy and pretty much everything it's we there's not one universal awesome thing there's some shit that like everybody goes god damn it's good no matter what you like like michael Michael Jackson in his prime.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I remember there was this radio station in Boston. It was, I think, I'm pretty sure it was WBCN. It was either WBCN or WCOZ. Those are like the two rock stations. COZ was a little harder. If you're a COZ person, you were a little bit more into Metallica, a little harder. COZ was a little harder If you were a COZ person You were like A little bit more into like Metallica A little harder COZ
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah And BCN I'm pretty sure it was BCN They played a Michael Jackson song And That was back when DJs Could just play music You know
Starting point is 00:08:19 It was a different world They could just play Whatever they wanted to They could just Like as if you were a DJ right now And you had a bunch of records and you had an internet radio station, if they let you do it, I don't think you can, but if they did let you do it, you just play those records and play whatever the fuck you want. That doesn't exist anymore. It doesn't exist. So this dude, I wish I could remember who it was, just started playing this Michael Jackson song. He goes, I don't care what you like, this is great music.
Starting point is 00:08:49 You don't remember the song, though? Pretty sure it was Billie Jean. Okay. I'm pretty sure it was Billie Jean. Because wasn't that all off of Thriller? Was Billie Jean on Thriller, too? It's hard, I think, for people today because there's so many superstars. There's so many different venues.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I mean, there's people that are superstars just from the internet. Yeah, it was on Thriller. Yeah. It's hard for people, I think, today. I think there's a much, much larger number of celebrities and of super celebrities, you know, of Beyonce's and Jay-Z's and Kanye West's. There's so many of those now that it it kind of we don't I don't think we can appreciate today what it was like when Michael Jackson was in his heyday. Because there was like he there was one it was like when Michael Jackson was in his heyday. Because there was like, there was one, it was one guy. It was one guy that just boom. There was no one like Michael Jackson, one guy who had so much impact on the culture. People were wearing those
Starting point is 00:09:57 stupid jackets everywhere and dancing that way. I mean, Corey Feldman, Corey Feldman and Corey Haim, the two of them would go out, and they were buddies with Michael Jackson, so they would dress like him. I mean, it was a serious trend, man. People wanted to. There was that trend, and there was the other one with the hat. Smooth criminal. There was a little bit of that.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Did people wear one glove? Oh, fuck yeah, they did. Yeah. Did people wear one glove? Oh, fuck yeah, they did. Yeah. It's hard. I think it's hard for us to appreciate how crazy that was with no internet.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Just television stations and radio stations. And much less people on the planet. That's even weirder. What do we have, a hundred million more people than when I was a kid like what was the find out what the population was in 1980 in the United
Starting point is 00:10:55 States because that would have been when I was like 13 because I was in high school in 81 226.5 million dude because I was in high school in 81. 226.5 million. Dude, there's 100 million more people here now. 100 million more people here than when I was a kid. That's fucking bananas.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Wow. That's an insane number. I mean, that's really hard to imagine. It's really hard to imagine. You stop and think about what that means for another 30 or 40 years. If it's going to go up another 100 million, where are we going to put all these fucking people? I mean, they say that it peaks off, though, when cities and countries start doing better
Starting point is 00:11:54 because then they start having less children because their economic situation turns up and then a lot of women get careers and they're more reluctant to give up those careers to have children and they have less children when they do have children and so they think that if you looked at like the trends towards urbanization there could potentially be a time in the future where we worried about a decline in population like a natural decline but that sounds like horseshit to me I've heard that too I horseshit to me. I've heard that too, I feel like. Does it sound like horseshit?
Starting point is 00:12:27 I feel like I've heard it, that it's happening now, that it's not that we've almost, not peaked, but it's on a decline in some places for sure, I think I've read. I think people are just moving out of those spots and coming here. It's crazy. It's obvious there's more people now than ever.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It's a trend. It's a hundred million trend people now than ever. It's a trend. It's a hundred million trend in the last, whatever it was, 30 plus years. I wish I was trying to pull it up right now. I just saw an article yesterday maybe about how many houses are needed in Los Angeles to keep up with the housing required. It's like 100,000 houses a year. What? Yeah. They have to build 100,000 houses a year?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah, and that's silly. Oh, my God. That's insane. There's no room. I did this thing before my Showtime special in 2005 where I was comparing mountains and lakes and rivers to what you see when you see a city, how it looks like a growth. And then it's like a lot of other growths. Even if you burn it, you've got to burn it all off.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Otherwise it just comes back and it gets bigger and stronger. And if you could look at it as something, if you were outside of our understandings and our knowledge of what cities are and people and languages and communities and cultures. And if you could look past all that, you'd look at these things that are growing on this planet. You'd look at this concrete, weird fucking growth. And when you break it down,
Starting point is 00:14:00 if that's a real number, if we need a hundred thousand houses a year, I saw this picture. This was on Reddit yesterday or the other day. This is a 60-square-foot flat, it says, in Hong Kong, I believe. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's basically people. I don't know how many.
Starting point is 00:14:18 This is two people living in here, it looks like, at least two. This is like a closet. It's a tiny closet. Everything's in there, the tiny little refrigerator, little sink this is crazy yeah they're sleeping on bunk beds yeah it's just this is not good for people yeah well why would people choose to do like if you if you weren't a person and you were looking at this, you'd be like, why don't they spread out? Why don't they spread out? What are they doing to themselves?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Do they like it like this? Do they have to be there? Do you think it would be like family that keeps them there? In the city? Or like from moving to another city? I've never been to Hong Kong, so we can only speculate. But I think the population in Hong Kong is fucking bananas. True.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Right? There's just too many fucking people. I don't know, man just it weirds me out when you when you look at people like a mathematical thing don't just look at them like you know hey that's my friend jamie you know hey that's this guy and i know that guy oh that guy's cool instead of that just looking at like math just look at the sheer volume and then and watch it as it multiplies and continues to multiply and that one multiplies and it keeps going and going and then then watch it as it multiplies and continues to multiply and that one multiplies and it keeps going and going and then the people move here and multiply and it's
Starting point is 00:15:30 all multiplication you know like we're not planning this out at all we're just stacking up fucking houses i mean it's gonna get to a point where there's nothing else but houses. If we keep going, I don't understand why people think that that's totally sustainable. By the way, it's coming from someone with three kids, so I should probably shut the fuck up. Did you, have you gotten further in the Black Mirror yet? No, just two episodes. I just did two. I will go two I will go I will watch more I want but I really enjoyed the memory one that was the one you kept telling me to see yep they're all really good well they had an awesome take on it too that
Starting point is 00:16:15 the I don't want to spoiler alert anybody but they they were able to record their memories that's what we've been talking about that for years. And I think, you know, I think a lot of people have been talking about that because it's a pretty obvious transition between being able to record memories with your phone, which is essentially that's what a phone does. You know, when you're taking photos and videos and stuff from your phone, you're recording memories. And how long before it's somewhere where you can play it on your brain,
Starting point is 00:16:46 where you can see it in your head. And, you know, we think that... I would love to see if there's a way that they can even take photos that way. Because I know they can transfer images. They can transfer, like can transfer like an image into someone's mind now they can try it like very like simple like a triangle you see a triangle isn't that in that the latest I know you're talking about
Starting point is 00:17:18 yeah and there was one where they were able to transmit a word through the internet right yep that's called like more like a one and zero thing. It was like an on or off, like are you feeling it or are you not kind of thing. That's what it was? I think. I thought it was an actual word. They might have gotten to what a word was spelled out. They might have spelled out the word.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I don't think it was a spelled out thing. I wish I could remember the explanation they gave for it. But I think it was like what that word represents. You know, like so was like what that word represents. You know, like so the intent of that word. And like so the person on the other side
Starting point is 00:17:50 like knew the word like no or knew the word not or whatever the word was. It says they were able to send the words hola and ciao from India to France.
Starting point is 00:18:01 The subject saw messages of flashes of light in the peripheral vision. The results described as a remarkable step in human communication. Woo! That is fucking crazy. They're sending messages through the internet.
Starting point is 00:18:19 They were able to send the words. Scroll up a little bit back where they were. They were able to send the words, Ola and Chow from a location in India to a location in France. Transmitted signals directly. Wow, look, this is nuts. It's just hard to imagine how far that could go. You know, if they can do that now.
Starting point is 00:18:42 What I've been thinking, it sounds like total bananas, but I've really been thinking a lot about it lately, is that, you know, the internet kind of allows everybody to communicate together. You know, you can have your Twitter account and your Facebook and all that jazz. I feel like what's going to happen with this kind of technology and this sort of hive mind technology is if they can transmit signals from one person to another person through the brain with with this technology this is real similar to like when they first started putting things on message boards in the internet and bulletin boards and like someone would put it up and then you'd have to check it and that was like
Starting point is 00:19:23 the only method of communication like my friend andrews talked to me about that a lot he was on in the uh really early days of the internet and those so these bulletin boards were like really primitive and this is like one of the first things that people had devised to communicate with online but now here we are 20 years later and it's fucking, you're streaming live on Instagram and you're doing Facebook live and, you know, people are taking pictures, instantaneously uploading them. And they're going to, they're going to be able to some way, some way or another allow us to interface with our brains the same way we interfaced using these phones and using computers. way we interfaced using these phones and using computers i was just if that happens would uh i mean i don't know how this worked this obviously was a two-way communication they're both uh wanting it to happen in this scenario you're bringing up like what if uh you sent me a message i didn't want i or i didn't want to have right then i didn't want right now i'm busy i'm doing
Starting point is 00:20:22 something else yeah are you just blasting me with this message like hey hey hey wake up I'm like I'm asleep or who knows what's going on or I'm getting 10 messages from all or I'm getting spam messages from outside too because they're gonna be a way to turn it off well I mean we're probably gonna be able to opt out of it but how many people are gonna opt out of it? And even if you do, maybe you could turn it off, like airplane mode, you know, just like you do with your phone at night if you're watching a TV show or something. I think that if you're really going to keep going with this, and it seems like they're going to, I mean, if they're doing things like this, it's not going to stop right there. It's not going to, well, we did it.
Starting point is 00:21:06 That's awesome. Let's just leave it there. No, they have these new batteries. Have you seen these new fucking batteries that they're powering with nuclear waste? No. Yeah, they last for like 5,000 years. I did see that Tesla's factory got turned on and they started making batteries. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Yeah. Yeah, there was something about batteries being made with nuclear waste. Diamond battery made from nuclear waste can last more than 5,000 years. Wow. Oh, yeah, put that in a cell phone and put it right next to your dick.
Starting point is 00:21:48 That shouldn't hurt it at all. Because radioactive sources encase safely within the diamond the hardest known substance it would be safe to use, say the researchers. Fuck those guys. They're going to open up a portal to hell. Those are those guys from Half-Life.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Fuck you, man. Fuck you. You're going to open up a portal to hell. Those are those guys from Half-Life. Fuck you, man. Fuck you. You're going to put what? And you know the chicks are going to want a goddamn nuclear diamond. You know those really super fucking high-maintenance chicks? They're all going to want nuclear diamonds. Like a regular diamond is not going to be good enough. That's going to be the next top-level shit is a diamond with nuclear waste inside of it.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Did you see this? Cremation diamonds? People are being cremated and turned into diamonds? Yeah. Wonderful. So are those two things possibly related? Cremation is weird. Nuclear waste, nuclear waste.
Starting point is 00:22:40 We're probably fucking over nature by being cremated. We really are. We're probably fucking over nature by being cremated. We really are. We're probably fucking over nature also with formaldehyde. You know? I mean, that's probably one of the disconnects that we have with nature. Like, we don't absorb into it anymore. We don't just bury our dead and then let the body do its natural decomposing process and then become a part of the natural ecosystem.
Starting point is 00:23:07 No, we've completely removed ourselves from it. We take the body, we drain all the shit out of it, we fill it up with chemicals, we spray paint it. It's weird, man. Have you seen a body like that's about to be buried? Not for a while, but yeah. My grandpa freaked me out because i was like wow he's not there like this is weird it didn't it wasn't there was nothing good about it there was
Starting point is 00:23:34 nothing good about being there like that it was i don't want to use the words grotesque, but there's something severely damaged about the idea behind it. It was like, I felt like I was watching some crazy ritualistic shit, you know, that was like reenacted from the primitive days of early man. I mean, looking down at this spray painted shell of a human, it's just, it's bizarre, man. I mean, looking down at this spray painted shell of a human, it's just, it's bizarre, man. You could tell that's not, he's not really there. What is this? These are different funerals. What does it say? Puerto Rican gangster, Puerto Rico gangster propped up playing dominoes at his funeral. Oh God. He's dressed up as a superhero. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:24:27 This guy's in a car. Jesus Christ. This is crazy. I've seen, I've had like different, this guy's, here's a boxer. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:24:39 He's a boxer. So they put him in his warmup suit and they put him in the corner of a ring. Jesus Christ, this is crazy. He's got sunglasses on. Why would you have sunglasses when you're ready about to fight? Want to see a crazy fucking picture? That guy, Joseph Smith Jr., who just knocked out Bernard Hopkins. First day on the job since he won the world title.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And he's got a photo of himself Joe Smith jr. mmm he's got two he's got two Instagrams maybe shop had it up yeah there it is look at that Joe Smith's first day in the job since he won. I mean, this guy just knocked out Bernard Hopkins, and he has a construction worker job. That's crazy. It's insane. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Hey, dude, quit that job. As I say, do you think at this point he needs to do that? I don't know how much he got paid. He might just be a... Maybe he doesn't have another fight lined up? Yeah. I mean, I think everyone just assumes that if someone's a world champion that they're rich, but it's not really the case.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You have to be a famous world champion. The real, the money, I mean, the money's in promotion. The money is in, you know, a guy like Oscar De La Hoya in his prime. He was like a teen idol and also an amazing boxer, Olympic gold medalist. Like, that kind of guy sold tickets. Floyd Mayweather sells tickets. Manny Pacquiao sells tickets. Now Joe Smith Jr., his next fight will probably make a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:26:22 You know, this was an opportunity for him, and he capitalized on it, and he knocked out one of the greatest of all time. But it was, it's just weird to see him working. Yeah. You know? That fight was fucked, though. I know. What round did that happen in?
Starting point is 00:26:40 Like the fourth? Fourth or the fifth. I don't remember. But he had been getting to Bernard Hopkins, and it looked like one of those classic fights where the old veteran just has lost his step. He was getting to Bernard Hopkins. He tagged him with some big shots.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And then when he got him in the corner and just unloaded those shots on him and then Bernard fell back on his head, I was like, God, this is just so fucked up. This is such a fucked up way to end an amazing career. That is just what that sport does. That is what that sport does. There's no getting around that. If you're a 51-year-old man and you're trying to fight
Starting point is 00:27:20 one of the best young lions in the game, especially he's not on PEDs or anything. He's not on any, I mean, I don't think he is. He might be. I doubt it. He seems like just a super disciplined guy, and his body sort of reflects that. He doesn't quite have the same body that he had when he was younger, but he still looks very fit. Like, when he was younger, he was a savage. I mean, when he beat, like, Felix Trinidad, nobody gave him a chance. Everybody when he was younger, he was a savage. I mean, when he beat like Felix Trinidad, nobody gave him a chance. Everybody thought he was done. They thought he was old. Felix Trinidad was going to fuck him up. And he went on to fight for like 13 more years. Yeah, man, he fucked up Kelly Pavlik. They thought he was old then. He went to fight
Starting point is 00:28:03 Kelly Pavlik and everybody's like oh this is gonna be a bad fight for Bernard Hopkins you know he's you know I think he was like 39 or something like that I forget how old he was I remember that might have been a little younger than that anyway he fucked up Kelly Pavlik no he was in his 40s find out how old Bernard Hopkins was when he fought Kelly Pavlik. That was after Pavlik had already become the champ, right? Yeah. I want to say Pavlik had beaten Jermaine Taylor, right? And I think, man, Hopkins might have been 40 years old at the time.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Because it's just, you stop and think about boxers in the past there was a few guys like Archie Moore George Foreman he was 43 and Pavlik was 26 that's crazy and almost 10 years later he's trying to still do that with these murderous white men. Because Kelly Pavlik was a murderous white dude too. Murderous puncher. And then this Joe Smith Jr. is a ferocious puncher. Oh, he's just a killer. Bernard Hopkins, like, one thing you've got to give the guy,
Starting point is 00:29:21 as amazing as his career has been, even at the very last fight, he takes the toughest fight he can find or one of the toughest ones just a real young dangerous kid but it's just even though like we've seen it happen with sugary leonard we saw that i mean remember sugary leonard got beat up by hector camacho he just stayed in too long and hector camacho just beat the shit out of him and it's like wow this is weird to watch and he had billy blanks in his corner billy blanks was teaching him taibo dead he had billy blanks billy blanks was a karate champion too he was a yoke dude and you know knows a lot about fitness but apparently sugar ray had something fucked up
Starting point is 00:30:02 with his calf like he pulled a muscle in his calf and, then he had to get a cortisone shot before the fight, he had like a little bit of a limp, I remember, but Hector Camacho fucked him up, but the really scary one was Terry Norris, when Terry Norris beat up Sugar Ray Leonard, do you remember that? Terry Norris Jr., Terry Norris Jr. Terry Norris, he put a beating on a lot of dudes. He was a scary kid. When he was at his best, Terry Norris was like lightning. Yeah, this is when Terry Norris was, you know, world class. And he was just a step faster than Sugar Ray.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And you can see he's getting to him. Terry Norris, he had been knocked out a few times himself too, man. He got into wars. One of the exciting things about Norris was that he would get hit. He would get in front of guys, he would you know really take some risks it's one of the reasons why he was uh so fun to watch but yeah this is just i don't even remember exactly how this fight ends but i'm pretty sure terry stopped him oh this is just round seven yeah i thought it was a highlighter
Starting point is 00:31:23 oh no no no oh yeah there's Sugar Ray got knocked down yeah see when you see shit like that like whoa see him get up staggered we've seen this so many times it shouldn't it shouldn't be weird at all
Starting point is 00:31:42 oh what a good time for the internet to freeze it shouldn't be weird at all. Oh, what a good time for the internet to freeze. It shouldn't be confusing to us. But it's this story that repeats itself over and over and over again. It doesn't seem like anybody ever learns their lesson. There's a few guys that get out on top. I really do hope Floyd Mayweather says, fuck you to everybody and just takes all that money. I really do hope he does that. I would love to see a guy get through the whole thing without ever getting fucked up once. Like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:17 if you think about what he's done, made stupid amounts of money and got through the whole thing, might have gotten hurt three or four times in his whole career might have gotten tagged never got beat up never got knocked out just got tagged a few times over the course of how many fights i mean that's beautiful someone can do that that's like retiring as a bmx rider with no broken bones is that possible to do I don't think that no yeah see what what he's done if Floyd Mayweather retires he's done the the thing that nobody ever does he went out on top undefeated with all the money after having fought all challengers I mean he might have fought Pacquiao late,
Starting point is 00:33:06 but you can't deny that he fought all challengers. Who gives a fuck? I mean, the 50 thing seems to be an issue. Or not an issue. 49-0 to 50-0, whether or not he wants to break the record. I mean, how much of that is his ego that's going to last for? I mean, he's still pretty young, right? Yeah. I mean, I think he's is his ego that's going to last for, I mean, he's still pretty young, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I mean, I think he's 36, if I had to guess. But he's in really good shape. I mean, he takes care of himself really well. He's, like, notoriously disciplined about workouts. And he'll even go out at night, go to a nightclub, drink water, and then work out at 2 o'clock in the morning. Because he has his own gym and his own thing, and he works hard. You don't get that good on just talent. You get that good on talent and discipline and hard fucking work.
Starting point is 00:33:55 There's just no way around it. And smart. You've got to be smart, too. You've got to be sneaky. You've got to be clever. Do you see who he's training right now for a fight? Yeah, he's training Soulja Boy. Soulja Boy is really going to fight Chris Brown.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Is that real? I mean, it doesn't seem like it, but it's been talked about for a few days now. Apparently, it's going to be on pay-per-view. He's fighting over a girl. I'm going to tell you right now, Chris Brown's going to fuck him up. Probably. Yeah. That's an angry dude.
Starting point is 00:34:28 See that dude on the left with the red? That's a real angry dude. The other dude, I just do not think he is as angry. But who knows, man? I've never seen either of them in person. I don't know. Maybe one of them. Maybe Soulja Boy's been hiding some sick boxing skills
Starting point is 00:34:45 and just pretending this whole time. I doubt it. See, I feel like Chris Brown has probably punched a lot more people. You know? Don't you think? I don't know. All wife-beating, girl-beating jokes aside, he definitely seems like a dude who is much more likely to punch people.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Maybe more likely to punch people maybe maybe more likely to but I couldn't really see moat neither either of them getting in like a street fight or anything they've been pretty famous for most of their life and protected to mmm interesting since they're in their teens two guys so I mean they might have thrown some thrown down once or twice Oh but here's another thing Here's another reason Why I say Chris Brown Chris Brown's a real Fucking dancer
Starting point is 00:35:29 You ever see that guy move? Oh yeah Yo he could do some Crazy shit He's really good in basketball Yeah Like really good in basketball Listen
Starting point is 00:35:37 This is gonna be a bloodbath I might be wrong Would you buy it? Yes Yeah I'll fucking buy it? Yes. Yeah, I'll fucking buy it. You know? And if Soulja Boy fucks him up, I'll apologize.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I was trying to think about this. Hasn't there been other things? I mean, I know you were supposedly supposed to fight Wesley Snipes, but, like, wasn't there other things like this ever happened before? They used to have a whole celebrity boxing show. I remember that happened a couple times. Yeah, yeah. Danny Bonaduce fought Screech. He fucked up a couple of people.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I remember when I was younger, there was supposed to be a big event where Shaquille O'Neal was supposed to go one-on-one on pay-per-view with this other big player named Hakeem Olajuwon. They were going to box? Not box. They were just going to play basketball one-on-one for a million dollars. But it never ended up happening. I don't know why it went away but i was just kind
Starting point is 00:36:26 of wondering in my head like i feel like this is how i've heard things like this coming up and happen like or at least been announced but they just kind of fizzle out who knows man i mean people have done crazy shit this just seems like a really really nutty one and they're fighting over a girl i just i haven't seen any evidence of soldier boys athleticism somebody put up a video of him working out there's a compilation of him working out it's but it's hard to tell if he's just being silly you know it's like he's uh he's like shadowboxing and he's riding an elliptical machine. He seems like a really young guy. How old is he? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:37:08 In his 20s, still, too. He's in his 20s? Yeah. There's no sound in the thing. Well, there's a bunch of... There's a compilation. Yeah. So, the dude...
Starting point is 00:37:24 Whoever the dude that was narrating it was like, oh, man, he goes, you're working out with your socks on. This is not the same compilation, but it was pretty funny. He's like, only real savages work out with their socks on. I don't know, man. It's just, you know. Why do they want to do this? What's wrong with these two?
Starting point is 00:37:49 I don't know. They need to hug it out. Anyway, when you were talking about that Black Mirror episode, I forgot that's the one that you saw. One of the things I actually got and was seeing shown at this CES event was that I showed it to you other night that GoPro gimbal I got it's called the uh Karma grip actually have it here let you hold on to it let me see it if you want um but this is some of the video I shot with it and so the idea is that it balances itself out
Starting point is 00:38:19 yeah I'll put the camera the camera's on you so you just kind of hold it and it keeps itself stable so like as you can jiggle it around a little bit, and it stays pretty simple. And this was me walking around. I have it at double speed here. But this was connected to my shoulder, basically. And I was walking around. So you taped it to your shoulder? I had a Velcro strap.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Okay, and so it just sits like this? Yep, I had it around my backpack just like that. And so I was just kind of like walking around the event and here's one of the here's one of the cool things i did see at the event too is a projector that's projecting on um it's yeah that's the stabilization actually oh it made it roll like that oh wow stay up but this uh this projector right here is projecting onto a curtain which I kind of ran past it pretty fast I wasn't really shooting my video for that
Starting point is 00:39:11 purpose but it's like a shower curtain with like a pattern on it yeah and it's showing a solid image on that exactly it's on a hockey game and you're not seeing the ripples you don't need a flat screen for this projector you can project it on anything and like a a tree exactly or ideally you would want something a little smoother than that but yeah you could still have a flat image on that whoa so uh that was pretty neat but some of this video is pretty cool on the stabilization and then i went over to the samsung booth and they have uh what they're kind of showing here is this flat hanging TV. Only way it's different from the things now is when you hang a TV up on a wall, it's hanging off about four to six inches.
Starting point is 00:39:55 This is literally flat. I don't know if you can see right there. It looks like a piece of paper. I don't know if you can slide anything in there. It says it's a no-gap wall mount. And then there's really no cords hanging off of there either. It's just one cord. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:10 No HDMI. I don't even know if power was coming off of it either. Well, how does it work then? There's one optical cord. So it's like using light. Optical cables use light waves. So the one cord is powering it and providing the data. See, it says invisible connection right there on top.
Starting point is 00:40:26 It's showing some of the data. Well, it kind of makes sense what they can do now with these iPhones. It doesn't power. I shouldn't say it powered it. But it does do all the 4K data. It does the HDMI, and it replaces all of that. But these new iPhones with that, what is that connection called? Lightning connector.
Starting point is 00:40:44 That connector, you use it for sound, like with your earplugs, your earbuds. You use it for an external microphone. You can use it for the, it charges it. You can split it off so it charges it, and at the same time, you're also listening to music. So both things can go through at the same time. you're also listening to music, so both things can go through at the same time. Another interesting thing that was being shown is some transparent LCD screens. So I'm trying to show you this one a little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:16 This one right here in the middle, this guy's trying to show you. This screen right here is actually a full LCD screen, the one I'm pointing at in the corner. But there's an art display shown over top of it, like an ink art display when you're not using it when you're not using the tv it looks like a piece of art hanging on your wall with the rest of the art wow so it's a screensaver basically a screensaver that's insane and there were a couple other companies showing some see-through lcd screens that what a great idea. These also haven't come to market yet, but this is some of the stuff that they're showing.
Starting point is 00:41:50 It's so beautiful, too. That's beautiful artwork. And if you can do it with that kind of resolution. Here I looked at some curved monitors. This is like the most curved monitor ever. I'm still not super sold on these. I don't really understand why everyone, or why they're selling them so hard. I don't really have an interest in buying one.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I've tried a few times to look at it. It's very gimmicky. It seems to me like, remember when those 3D TVs were coming out and everyone was trying to convince everybody you need to get it? Yeah. Oh, 3D TV's coming. And I watched it for a couple of minutes with the glasses on. I was like, this is not going to work. This is not here yet.
Starting point is 00:42:30 You know, it's just too goofy. That's gone pretty much. Yeah, it's gone. I think that's the same with these things. I think people are, you're going to use them for a while, and then you're going to go, but this is, why is it, why am I doing this? Why am I curving the fucking screen? It seems like it's only for one viewer, too, because if you're curving it for the other people, then they can't.
Starting point is 00:42:48 It fucks it up for everybody else. It makes it for one person. But I would say the majority of people's use of computers is probably one person, right? Right. Yeah, for sure. At least one person at a time. Yeah. So on this video, you can also see kind of how crowded this whole event was.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Jesus. I walked 25 miles i think my fitbit tracked 25 miles in two days wow and that was only six to seven hours per time because i was dead tired after that yeah dude you had a workout for sure and i was carrying around a backpack oh yeah 20 pounds of gear in it um but here's an interesting new laptop coming out uh you can't really get a good view on it i kind of picked it up it's it literally i think it weighs less than a pound or right around a pound whoa and it felt like a like a kid's toy that's how like the plasticky it did i don't want
Starting point is 00:43:39 to say it felt cheap but it felt like a toy it felt like you could just throw it like a frisbee but it was a full laptop made by samsung uh it had a lcd screen it had a full keyboard it had a mouse pad and they had a little uh i think it was a scale next to each thing that just proved to you how much it weighed but are you that much of a pussy that you can't carry around a one pound laptop i don't get it i yes and no but i mean let's say if you want to take one hunting and you need to you need all your ounces like oh yeah well you definitely shouldn't take a laptop while hunting but if you did yeah you would definitely want to do that yeah guys cut their toothbrushes in half there's a lot of like drastic weight reduction when it comes to those things but i just feel like for laptops it's not that hard to carry one around and you
Starting point is 00:44:25 know you put on your back and to me like features and uh hard drive space and speed and that's the most important shit like it's not that hard to carry a pound or two pounds or whatever the fuck it is three pounds yeah it's not that hard. They haven't gotten that crazy, I guess. They are getting all lighter. Yeah. I mean, this laptop doesn't weigh that much. Those retina displays are very light, and it's beautiful. You know, and then they have the Airs, and those are feather light.
Starting point is 00:44:56 You don't need anything lighter than a goddamn MacBook Air. Yeah, true that. It's nothing. It weighs nothing. There's got to be a reason. There's got to be a small market. It also probably is way cheaper than a MacBook Air, I would have to say. Well, you remember when people wanted smaller and smaller phones?
Starting point is 00:45:08 You could buy a phone that's that big. I saw a phone once that, like, it was so small that, like, there was a dial for it. I'm trying to remember how the fucking numbers were pressed. There was some novel way of, like, they barely could fit a number pad like to dial phone numbers so they had some weird dial thing to it trying to remember just reminding me i might be making this up iphone prototype they showed an iphone prototype i don't know how it came out today or not today but uh this week someone made a or showed video of how one of the ways an iPhone was supposed to originally work, and it was using that scroll wheel that used to be on the old iPods.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Do you remember that? Yeah. So someone kind of hacked it together, I think, on a current iPhone to show you how this worked, this operating system worked. But it seemed like the obviously worst way ever to be controlling a phone because even I think you would have to input numbers that way But it seemed like the obviously worst way ever to be controlling a phone. Because even, I think you would have to input numbers that way by scrolling to them, two, three, four. Seems so bad.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Was that really considered? I mean, it's a working prototype. So I'd have to say someone at least thought it might have been a good idea. Well, it has to be that they went through a bunch of different ideas before they came up with the— Yeah, I mean, I heard they're going through 10 different phones right now just to try to figure out what the next iPhone they're going to go with is. There are 10 different testing models. Do you think that they've hit that point of critical mass where it's like, unless something really huge comes along, like hologram projectors or something really bananas,
Starting point is 00:46:43 you've got everything now you got amazing cameras you got massive hard drive space you've got so much you've got you have all these apps that you can use you got all this usability like what are you gonna do that's gonna make people want like a next generation and next generation and next generation like there has to be some sort of a leap because it seems like for all the technology we have today people are almost like over-computered and and over phoned right definitely for sure i mean i was trying to walk when i was walking around that event i was looking for like either the big crowds to see what everyone was like
Starting point is 00:47:19 stuck around looking at because this event was so huge to stop and spend five minutes at a at a particular i don't know pod or product or even just let someone talk to you to take your time for that five minutes is insane because there's just so much to look at um but at the same time there's well i kind of lost what i was doing there, but I just kind of looked over at this thing I wanted to show you, which was this thing called Vertify, which is this 3D virtual reality program. Ooh. They showed this guy over here doing a demo for it. I didn't want to wait in line.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I really didn't want to wait in any lines there because there were so many people, and I didn't feel very good to stand somewhere for 30 minutes and sweat. Young Jamie got the same stomach flu that I had. But what this shows right here is I'm pretty sure that this thing on top here is the camera that records the event. And then what they were showing, this guy was getting a demo of it, which I wasn't seeing on this screen. But they did show, and you can kind of see him pinching his hand up there on top.
Starting point is 00:48:24 On this video video they show you watching uh with a vr headset let's say a concert and then you can decide to grab the lead singer and move him into your living room so the performance is now he's like not i don't know it was real weird how it showed it and i don't have it on this actual video i went back and watched another and so he's wearing some fairly small goggles. There's not a lot to what he's wearing. Yeah, that's one of the one, there's about four or five big
Starting point is 00:48:51 things going on there. There's VR headsets, different, new, multiple companies sharing VR headsets. Was this augmented or was it virtual reality? That I believe was virtual reality. But he reached up and grabbed someone and pinched it and brought it in but it would have to be a little augmented because if you were seeing
Starting point is 00:49:09 it in your living room you'd have to also see the living room yeah if you go back to the video of you being there like see like when you see his actual goggles itself like watch as you pass by actually see a little bit on the can you see Can you see it? See, that's the lead singer moved onto the couch. Oh. She's bringing the artist into our home. How bizarre. Which would, I kind of, like, pulled into the comedy world. You could bring the comedian into your living room and just have him perform in your living room instead of at the comedy venue that they were at.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Which would be interesting. Yeah. How odd. Drones was a big thing there. I'm sure. Lots of drones. Tons of drones. Tiny ones too now, right?
Starting point is 00:49:52 Very tiny ones. There's a selfie drone, which didn't seem like it worked very well. It kept flying up and flying down different sides. I'm not quite sure how you're supposed to control it. Go through this for a couple more seconds to see that guy's goggles. Because I think he can see through them. See, look how he's looking. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:09 See how, like, you see his eyes. I mean, that's what it seems like to me, right? He might have that Microsoft Surface headset on. Oh. I'm not sure. And there's a behind it, too, is a wireless VR headset. So there were, like I said, too, there were a lot of headsets, and there were lots of things.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And let me just throw out a number and say I did five tech demos. Out of those five, two or three didn't work, or they didn't go well, or they didn't work perfectly at all. So that's where I'm kind of like, I don't know that a lot of this stuff was maybe not ready, or maybe it was supposed to be shown that way, and this is our only demo product we have for you guys to see right it's supposed to work all the time it usually does but we've done so many demos today it kind of fucks up a little bit that could have been happening to a little bit but there is a lot of things going on here where
Starting point is 00:50:57 they're just trying to show you some show you an idea and hope someone with a lot of money walks by and was like ah that looks like a good idea. Here's some money, kid. Go make it. That kind of thing. Some 1930s carnival barker. And it works out for that company. Does that happen? Are there, like, guys who troll around this place and look for good products? I just walked by the Intel booth and randomly saw a guy walk up to one of their workers
Starting point is 00:51:22 and say, like, I have some patents on baseball Wi-Fi technology. Who do I talk to? That kind of thing. So that's all. There's tons of different meetings, things sort of happening. By the way, in case anybody misinterprets, when I'm saying troll around, I don't mean, like, fuck with people on the Internet troll.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I mean, like, fishing troll. You drag a line behind, you go look for things to catch. Do you think that this this was like the big thing in this CES though as far as like emerging technologies with all this virtual reality stuff every year it is apparently it's focused on something different like this year there wasn't very much cell phone anything really and usually in the past years like there's been just big announcements of cell phones from different companies I think I only even saw maybe one and it was this company
Starting point is 00:52:09 called Huawei, I believe is how you say it. Cause they had a, they paired with this really well known camera company called Leica and have a 20 megapixel camera. Yeah. Leica makes, uh, they make binoculars and stuff too. Um, but I tested that out to see how good it was, and I wasn't sure if I was holding the actual correct model, which was the one that had all the best features in it because it had a couple different models out there. Again, there's just so much going on there. It was really hard to get a grasp of what you were doing.
Starting point is 00:52:39 It's really interesting you bringing this up. It's making me think when you get to a certain level of this virtual reality stuff, you're going to want to look through, like, the best lens available. You know, you're going to want, like, one of those high-end binocular companies to come along and craft something. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to remember right now. I want to say it's GoPro.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I'll have to Google it before I kind of say something off. But, you know, have you heard of the company called Hasselblad? Yes. I believe GoPro just bought them. It's a camera company. They were the people that had the cameras that they put on the moon. DJI. I think it's DJI.
Starting point is 00:53:14 DJI, Hasselblad. Allegedly. Allegedly they were on the moon. Yeah, so DJI is arguably the best drone maker right now. They're the biggest company. It's a company out of China. They make the Phantom, which was the biggest consumer drone.
Starting point is 00:53:34 And right now, they just put out the thing called the Mavic, which is... So they acquired Hasselblad? Apparently, they had a minor stake in the company, and they just took a major stake. So they just took over the stock holdings. the correct pronunciation it's Hasselblad I believe so yeah so DJI is this they made this thing called the Mavic which I got to
Starting point is 00:53:53 hold at the event I didn't get to buy one they're not they're on backorder still right now they've been on backorder for a little while fold it up because each of these legs folds together it's a little bit smaller or a little bit bigger than this than my iphone 7s it's a little obviously a little bit thicker you can see that it's thicker but this actual size you can like hold it and it's about the same size as the palm of your hand holy shit and it shoots 4k video it goes up to i want to say for about four miles away from you. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:26 So obviously you're going to lose sight of it. It goes, I think, 20, 30, 40 miles an hour or something like that, something crazy. And this is a bite-sized little tiny drone. Oh, my God. And does it avoid things or evade things? Yeah, this one has obstacle avoidance. That's what these cameras on the front for.
Starting point is 00:54:41 There's some on the back or the bottom too. So they have another version, which is the Phantom 4 Pro, I believe, which is a bigger version than this. They have an Inspire, which is the way bigger version, and then they have the full film that a film company would use, which has got eight big crazy props on it and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Do you remember when they filmed that movie, The Twilight Zone, and they didn't have drones back then. And they had a helicopter, an actual real helicopter behind them doing a stunt. Do you remember that? There was a horrible accident. Oh, man, it was a horrible accident where this actor and this little girl were killed. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:55:22 The helicopter came crashing down on them. You said that there was two people. I think I did hear about that. Yeah, don't even show me this, dude. I don't even want to watch that shit. Let me try to see it. Something about seeing people die for a movie, too. It's, like, particularly gruesome.
Starting point is 00:55:42 It's like, what? How did you think that you could just fly that helicopter right next to people well with all this drone stuff i'm going to ask you this question because i don't know if it's an actual trend i see happening or if it's just something they're forcing or what but there's just seems to be a lot of uh camera equipment being made available for the individual to use to make really high-end stuff. And I don't know if it's the trend that people are just going to start making all this content?
Starting point is 00:56:14 Are they going to just start shooting everything they're doing? Are they just making it as technology and allowing that to happen for us? Well, it seems like there's only so much you could do with it i feel like what they're what they have to do though is have the best shit so think if someone has 4k you have to have 4k you know someone has um you know virtual capability you could upload it digitally it's like fitness trackers were really big there. I still, I, I've, I don't remember who it was that came in here. I think it was the first time Bert came in with one.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I sort of tried to ask him. I was like, cause I had one too for a couple of weeks, but I took it back. Cause it got recalled. But I was just like, what are you doing with that? The one I had at the time got recalled. It was for what? It was causing a rash on people because the battery connector wasn't oh right i don't know they fixed it apparently now but i haven't bought another one since then because i found out that the fitbit app on my iphone works just about the same and there's also the built-in apple iphone apps now too that do the health stuff
Starting point is 00:57:18 but what what is everyone doing with all that data or are they doing anything with it mostly at all besides really really really, really into fitness people, like personal trainers? Well, I think there's some technologies that even though they keep getting better and better, they're kind of ignored after a while. Like, here's one of the most bizarre ones is voice sound quality. Nobody gives a fuck about what anybody's voice sounds like on a phone. It's like it almost never gets discussed. Like, isn't that one of's voice sounds like on a phone. It almost never gets discussed. Isn't that one of the most important things about a phone?
Starting point is 00:57:50 You should be able to listen to someone on a phone, and it should sound like they're talking to you. It should be like right here. Like, what's up, Jamie? Oh, hey, what's up, dude? It never sounds that good, ever. But they have the ability to make it sound that good. Well, why haven't they made it sound that good?
Starting point is 00:58:04 People barely fucking use their phone as a phone anymore. The phone part is totally stagnant. Like the signal gets a little bit better. You can catch a signal somewhere else, but it still sounds just as shitty as it ever did. It doesn't sound perfect clarity. It doesn't sound like you talking to me in the same room. You're telling me they can't do that? Of course they can do that. If they could get you to listen better now with a better sound now than the rotary phones, the 1960s,
Starting point is 00:58:35 they could improve on the sound quality, but there's no demand for it because people hardly talk on the phone anymore. So it becomes one of those things where it just hits a certain point, nobody gives a fuck about it, and then the market goes where people give a fuck. People give a fuck about cameras. You've got to get a juicy camera. I want a 15, 18, whatever a megapixel is. It sounds awesome. Get me one of those.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Oh, it's gigapixel? They have gigapixels. I need a gigapixel. You know, like how many people are just buying the latest shit, me included, because it's the latest shit because it sounds awesome, you know, because you want that one. Oh, the S has the image stabilization that I'll never use. There's so much of that shit out there.
Starting point is 00:59:14 But it seems so compelling. Like if Apple had an iPhone 8, you and me would be in line like a couple of fucking dorks. I still keep talking to myself sometimes. I think about the 7S I have. I have it. I have it. I like it. The cameras on it is really good, but it's so big, I kind of dislike it. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:59:32 I like the smaller phone. I like the 6S. Well, the 6 or the 7, you can get a regular-sized one too. But the stats on the phone are down. They're down? It's not as good of a phone as the 7s is really 7s plus i'm sorry we're a 7 plus um as far as the hard drive and as far as battery life right it's got dual cameras right the other ones don't have right the battery on this is actually really good
Starting point is 00:59:58 it's very good i'm super surprised at how good the battery is on this phone yeah uh especially if you don't keep wi-Fi and Bluetooth on all the time. You can last two days almost, which is way surprising because the screen's way bigger. But I could say when the next one comes out in a couple months, they're going to announce it probably by March or May, and it'll be out by the fall. Like, do we need it again? And then the answer is, like, why?
Starting point is 01:00:24 Because it has 4K video on it. It's like, yeah, I know it has 4K video, but I've barely done anything with the 4K video. And the 4K video I do have, like, with this GoPro I just got, the new GoPro 5, you have to convert all the footage so that you can actually edit it, which is, like, a big, gigantic step. You have to convert it before you edit it? Yeah. Ew. You can do a little bit of editing in their program, but to take it in a final cut or to do what I did just to show you more than 30 seconds at a time,
Starting point is 01:00:55 I had to spend, whatever, 12 minutes per 8-minute video converting all of it. That's only because that's the capabilities of my computer. If I had a faster one, maybe it would have been faster, but there's slower computers too. And it's just like, what's the capabilities of my computer if i had a faster one maybe it'd have been faster but they're slower computers too and it's just like what's the need of the 4k video then i couldn't even show the 4k video out because i can't broadcast how big are these files we're talking about huge for a nine minute video it was like 40 gigs oh my god that's a fucking giant hard drive back in the day. I think my first hard drive was four gigs 40 gig for one file that's crazy for what and that's just so I could have two hours of GoPro footage of me walking around See yes to whittle that down and it's like what is the normal person gonna do with all that if they went to shoot? Their kids it's like they're gonna have to have so many hard drives. We're going to become digital hoarders for sure.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yeah. Yeah, you're talking about actual physical space now. Now, what is the benefit of that over like a more standard HD format other than the fact that it just looks a little bit better? I mean, and really it is just a little bit. Like you're really struggling between HD and this 4Kk it's like i guess it's better it's better it's a smidge it's a smidge better there were some 8k tvs at ces 8k yeah those motherfuckers a couple cameras that shoot in 8k now right when you thought you were safe with 4k now what's going to be 80 gigs for the same video at least fuck that that's crazy well and that's the that's kind of where
Starting point is 01:02:26 we're getting it's like there's no the distribution of this content now because it becomes the next step and the next hurdle you have to get past i was looking around a lot of 360 cameras because i just got that 360 camera and did the test footage with the the weigh-in that we did last week and the i didn't personally just like how the footage looked there was i got a there was a smudge on the screen which transferred over and it doesn't look very good and it wasn't at eye level and i was shoot i believe i was shooting that in 4k and it just looks a little grainy and messy and so i was looking around that whole event to just try to find because there were multiple 360 cameras and multiple there was 4k
Starting point is 01:03:05 streaming 360 cameras and you need to they all have their own proprietary software to run it off of but i did find one really good one which does 3d 360 video which was really really cool but i'm also wondering too if i saw something one really good edited video they made to show it off or if I was actually seeing this is basically exactly what the camera does pretty much straight off of it because it was really cool it's called the views camera
Starting point is 01:03:36 and I contacted them that's when you're getting into really bizarre stuff right when you're talking about like 8k video and then you're talking about 360 degree 3d yeah because it seems like if we're going to enter into a real virtual realm anytime in the near future all this ramping up of the specs you know going from 4k to 8k and then you know 32k is just around the corner they're just going to keep getting better at this shit and when you're talking about something through like a high-end glass,
Starting point is 01:04:07 like a really high-end Leica binocular-type glass, and then having insanely high-definition video, and then having this exponential jump in this virtual technology where they figure out a way to really lock you into something that is not invasive to the point where it's not like fucking with your experience by you feeling it on your head. It's very light, you know, because sometimes you're putting those bulky headsets and the goggles,
Starting point is 01:04:36 you know it's over your eyes. Like that's going to shrink up too. That's going to shrink up to almost nothing. And with all these like big jumps that they're making, how far away are we from some fully immersive Avatar world? We've got to be getting close. Dude, it's going to be bananas. Do you know what it's going to be like?
Starting point is 01:05:00 An Avatar world that you could go for a journey in? I mean, imagine if movies movies if what they become because you know think about how these serial shows like uh sopranos and then ultimately you know game of thrones and a lot of these other great shows they they catch you and they rope you in they bring you into a. And then you follow that world episode after episode and you get sucked into it. Right. It's very different than a regular movie. What did they start doing? The serial?
Starting point is 01:05:36 I mean, I think of like game of Thrones is a serial movie, right? There's a hundred parts to this movie, but it's a big giant ass movie I mean it's it's it's so much better than a regular television show in terms of like its special effects and the grandness of it all if they can figure out how to film something like that but let you strap on to some 3D treadmill type thing and move around in this fucking weird world and follow these people on their journeys. Be right there when the orcs slaughter the people.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Like the blood splatter in front of you. You're watching them get chopped up. And then you're going to go over the mountain to where the castle is you have to actually walk over the mountain but as you walk over the mountain horses ride beside you you get to see them i mean we're real close to something like that i feel like that's only a few years away they have avatar world coming out soon like in disney at disney disney Oh, what are they going to do? How's that going to work? They've been showing some things. I think this is just
Starting point is 01:06:50 an Imagineering idea, but you're going to be able to take a boat ride through the middle of the Navi forest. Oh, okay. Well, that looks like it's a small world with psychedelic colors. It's going to be a little bit like that, but they're going to have some VR stuff where you're going to be able to float through and go on the. Floating mountains?
Starting point is 01:07:06 Whoa. Here's how they look in Disney World right now. Oh, wow. So they're building it right now. You're obviously not going to be able to walk on that. When is this going to take place? I think it opens later this year. Disneyland doesn't play games.
Starting point is 01:07:19 But what you're saying, what if they just took the extension of that and just instead of making the Avatar movie, they just went, look, Avatar 5 is Avatar World, and if you want to come live it out, you've got to come to Disney World and pay $50 or $100 or $150 or $300. Something crazy to do it. Now you're talking. That would be awesome. This is what you do. You construct that world, and then once you're in that world,
Starting point is 01:07:44 then you put on the vr goggles and it turns everything into fluorescent neon greens and blues and like the avatar world you could see everything and then you actually watch the movie play out in there nerdgasm i feel like they're way closer to something like that than we are everyone being able to do this at home probably. Well, the thing about that, though, is it's going to require so much resources and land and money. And it's just, I feel like a 3D treadmill and, you know, where you can't, you don't physically go anywhere. You're not going to be able to go up hills and you're not going to, you're not going to feel a sensation of walking, climbing things. That's the only difference, but you'll be able to
Starting point is 01:08:29 be like right in front of it, but it won't feel like grass. You know what I mean? Like if they could figure out a way to do a virtual world where somehow or another you could change the textiles on the ground or change the way it feels, the tactile sensation of what you're stepping on. If you can make it feel like water, or if you can make it feel like grass or dirt. If they could start doing shit like that, that doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility. It just seems like something way too smart
Starting point is 01:09:01 for a dummy like me to figure out. So there's one technology at CES. There's a couple things there I didn't get a chance to even see. What is this? What does it say? Wants to let you feel fabric through your touch screen. Whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Canvas. I couldn't find it there. There were a lot of places I think I was trying to find that I couldn't even actually just find. You know what dudes are going to use that for? Just going to rub girls' panties in porn films. It's going to be the only application for it oh it's right there let me touch it right there the idea of it sounds pretty interesting though yeah i mean you can you can have like a bump to it so is it working on um an ipad or something with uh yeah it uses a little bit of like the haptic feedback that is already built into some of these things, but it uses it differently.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Well, that was what was kind of cool about the HTC Vive is that haptic feedback. Because when you're doing the bow and arrow thing, it really does kind of feel like you're drawing the arrow back. It gives you a little bit of vibration as if the arrow is pulling across the arrow rest and it's rubbing on it. It's really cool. So they just made some announcements to, they're not going to make a new Vive yet, but they showed a new headset attachment
Starting point is 01:10:10 that makes the Vive fit on your head a little bit more comfortably. And they showed what they're calling the tracker, which is essentially the end of the controller, which can be attached to, they said, anything. So it depends what a developer makes it work with. But one of the things they showed is on the end of a gun, to play different gun games, they put it on the end of a baseball bat.
Starting point is 01:10:30 And the baseball bat, then you could see the bat in the Vive game that you were playing or the baseball simulation you were playing, but they could pull in real Major League Baseball pitches, actual data, because they have them all from the last, I don't know, five to ten years. Any pitch from any pitcher you want to see, you can have now come at you and you can go ahead and try to hit it. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And probably then put you theoretically in any park you want or wherever the hell you want to be swinging baseball bats. How many dudes are going to be blowing their shoulders apart? Well. Swinging at the air with this thing. Hopefully, you're not bashing your house up, too, but that idea can be expounded on. Now, I would think that if you were going to do something like that, you would want to do it with a bat that's like the same weight as a real bat. You'd probably want the actual—they had an actual wooden baseball bat.
Starting point is 01:11:17 They just screwed the thing on the bottom. Whoa, that's crazy. So you could do it with that. You could probably have a sword. You could probably have a bow. Oh, shit. Yeah. If you had a sword, do you know what kind of a fucking awesome workout you would get?
Starting point is 01:11:30 My arms were so tired at Duncan's place just for playing his archery thing, and I'm not even pulling anything back. I'm just holding my arm up. Like, there's no actual resistance pulling the bow back, but just holding your arm straight in front of you and doing this over and over again my arms were killing me man i was like this is amazing like this actually has some physical benefit to it and the boxing game the boxing game has real benefit to it the boxing game i think you could you could learn how a person moves and how it feels like to spar
Starting point is 01:12:02 with them you see punches come at you You can learn how to slip punches. You can learn how to counter with things. You don't feel hitting anything. That's the only thing that's missing. You don't feel them hitting you. But at least when they hit you, you see sparks. So one of the, I'm trying to find that little, it's not worth me pulling up the video,
Starting point is 01:12:19 but there was a haptic feedback, essentially a backpack slash chest thing you put on for VR that would give you some sort of shocks or you'd feel something. I don't know how hard it would feel. It should jolt the shit out of you. There was another one. There was a video I watched showing the trackers that they were adding onto different devices. They put it on a fire hose, and they also put a jacket on you that had heaters in it. So when you're putting out a fire and it's giving you feedback of the hose, it's also getting warmer and you're getting hot.
Starting point is 01:12:54 So, like, there's different – that's not really a game as more of it as a simulation or it is a training tool for an actual fire company. Well, it's also to let you know what's the potential for a Doom game from 2024. Maybe two years from now. We'll see what happens at E3 this year with what these companies are going to announce with the new Xbox.
Starting point is 01:13:15 It's supposedly going to have a VR. As soon as someone comes up with a haptic feedback suit that's able to get hot and cold and vibrate and jolt and even give you a little bit of pain yeah you need something you need a little bit of pain a little fucker you know where you're really feeling it remember that was that uh i don't know which james bond movie it was where they're holding on to the there's some sort of like stick they're holding on to and like
Starting point is 01:13:43 the loser it just gets more painful and it's like a man versus man contest, but there's a bunch of it's like at a cocktail party. I don't remember that one. I avoided a lot of those James Bond movies. Eddie Bravo said something to me a long time ago and it fucked me up.
Starting point is 01:13:59 We were talking about it wasn't a conspiracy thing we were talking about action movies and he's like, like, action movies. And he's like, the problem with action movies is you always know who's going to live. The main guy's always going to live. Like, you never, oh, yeah, he's going to hang by a fucking thread. Yep, he's going to make it.
Starting point is 01:14:16 He's going to live. You know he's going to live. I'm like, you motherfucker. Like, I knew that. Of course I knew that. You go to see The Terminator or you go to see Predator, you don't think that Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to get killed by the alien at the end. No. You think, that's actually really bad for us, isn't it? It's really bad
Starting point is 01:14:37 to have the good guy win in all of them. That's why I think no country for old men is probably important. It's important to know that sometimes the guy who you think is going to live gets shot in the last couple minutes of the movie, and the other guy just wanders off, spoiler alert. And that's the end of the movie. And you're like, what the fuck kind of movie is this? Well, that's a movie that's more like a real live story. Arnold can't beat that alien.
Starting point is 01:15:02 You know it. I know it. That thing's going to fuck him up. Why are we pretending? This is stupid. There's not a world where I can imagine that Predator losing to Arnold Schwarzenegger. I can't imagine. Did you see Arnold going at the Donald the other day? No, I didn't.
Starting point is 01:15:16 But I can't believe the Donald went at Arnold. He's the goddamn president, sir. Because the ratings were down. Of course. Well, he compared it to his first season, and then all the 15 seasons he did afterwards. They fired him from that show for talking about Mexicans. Did you know that?
Starting point is 01:15:33 That's when they fired him. They fired him from that show, and he's still the executive producer. So he's talking shit about a show that he's still the executive producer of. How is he allowed to be the executive producer? Because he's the fucking president. I. How is he allowed to be the executive producer? Because he's fucking president. I don't know all the
Starting point is 01:15:48 rules about that, but I thought there were rules about that. He's probably going to step down now that he's president. I don't know. He said he was going to step down from a bunch of shit now that he's president. Dude, it's going to be weird fucking for sure. It's going to be weird. And he's going to be weird during the weirdest era ever.
Starting point is 01:16:07 It's next Friday, right? Yep, 20th. As soon as he gets in the place. What do you think is going to happen that day? He's going to paint the White House black. Hell's going to open up right in front. It's going to be like a river of lava. Is that the actual end of the world day?
Starting point is 01:16:24 Yeah, the Mayans were only off by four or five years. They were off by a little. What do they think? December 21st, 2012. So they were off a little. Four years and a month. Yeah, not that bad. Not that bad.
Starting point is 01:16:38 They missed it a little bit. They did it thousands of years ago, man. If you're fucking guessing, thousands of years ago, man, if you're fucking guessing, thousands of years ago, I mean, I wonder if there really is like a cycle where civilizations just, they get to a point where all the monkey shit that led them to scratch and scrape and dominate and procreate and get to a point where they have a city and finally get a little bit of safety, all of that just bites it in the ass. Cause all those, even though you've gotten past the monkey existence, all those monkey DNA, human reward systems, they're all still in place and they still make you want to chase the
Starting point is 01:17:19 same shit that people chased thousands of years ago conquest and you know and domination and control the food supply and now that I'm president I'll have all the gold that need for competition that's gonna be one of the things that I think technology is probably gonna neutralize first. I think that when you get a hive mind type scenario, which is a hive mind or a virtual world scenario where it's literally preferable to this world, like why would you want to hang around and just go to West Hills and get lunch at some shitty place and wait in this thing and then go to the movie. Why would you even want to do that when you can get all your food through an IV
Starting point is 01:18:09 and you're going to live in the Avatar world for a couple of weeks? A lot of people would do it, dude. Oh, damn it. Food would probably be the only problem. Food and taking a shit. There's another Black Mirror episode you just started saying it happened another one it's happened from time to time like you just start going down a concept and it's like that's that's a black mirror episode an original fuck yeah what can i say it was just an idea that you can go live in another in another place that's gonna happen
Starting point is 01:18:38 amount of time what's the name of that episode i want to watch it san junipero i think is that one it's gonna happen man it's just a matter of time and when it does happen it might be a complete I want to watch it. San Junipero, I think, is that one. It's going to happen, man. It's just a matter of time. And when it does happen, it might be a complete mental experience. Like, you might get out of this, and you might be like those poor guys who come back after spacewalks. You know, those guys that are up there like Hatfield, Commander Hatfield. I had him on the podcast, and he was describing after being, I think he was up for six months. It was a long fucking time.
Starting point is 01:19:11 And when he came back down, like, his body's brittle. It takes like a year for your bone density to come back. Like, you're a mess. You can't stand. You're throwing up all over the place. Your whole body is so baffled because you've been up in space for six months.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Those guys make a tremendous sacrifice so that we can understand what happens to people's bodies in zero gravity. All these people that are signing up to go to Mars and want to go on all these journeys into space. Settle the fuck down. We might be able to go to better spots if we just stay right here. We need to put a roof on this thing. We got rocks flying in. We need to put a goddamn roof on the planet.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Build that first. A big ass, thick roof with LCD screens so at the bottom of it, it just shows nothing but beautiful skies everywhere you go it's going to be like the truman show and there's going to be a big uh scoop that catches all the rain the rain's going to fall on the outside it's going to get funneled through but we need like a
Starting point is 01:20:19 four foot wall now it wouldn't even matter the the the kind of asteroids that killed the dinosaurs i think they said something crazy like it was five miles deep into the earth within the first half a second yeah i might have made those numbers up but it's in that range where it's so preposterous i remember hearing this guy speak about it and you know talking about just the the impact that the earth rang for a million years rang from the impact for a million years ouch what the fuck is that like so we can't really have a uh we need something better than a roof. That's what I'm trying to say. Work on that first, then your goddamn virtual reality. Then think about going to Mars. I was listening to Richard Dawkins talk to Sam Harris today on this podcast.
Starting point is 01:21:13 It's very interesting. But one of the things they were talking about is people going to Mars. And if they did colonize Mars, the genes on Mars would not be in contact with the genes back here on Earth. And would human beings go off in different directions. And then on top of that genetic manipulation, once genetic manipulation gets perfected and they start really fucking with people's DNA and really changing what people look like and what, how they can perform and how their brains work was going to be like in
Starting point is 01:21:42 comparison, like the guys that are doing that on Earth versus the people that are doing it on Mars? Yeah. That's weird. And the atmospheres are obviously different just in general because the way cells would grow would just be different. You can't breathe it.
Starting point is 01:22:01 You have to somehow or another they're going to have to terraform, create an atmosphere, or they're going to have to put some kind of domes up and live inside the domes, which is terrifying. I feel like, was it an interstellar where they made, we didn't colonize planets, but we made floating terraform cylinders. Mm-hmm. And we lived on those. Is that what that was?
Starting point is 01:22:29 I didn't watch that whole movie. I got mostly into that movie and I fell asleep on a plane. So you didn't? I didn't see the end. Seeing that movie at the Chinese Theater, which is where I saw it down in Hollywood, when they go into the black hole. I remember even reading that's where Christopher Nolan was test watching that movie it was so loud so big it made that such an awesome experience mmm the Chinese
Starting point is 01:22:54 theaters man I'd love I love to see it makes bad movies good yeah I saw Pulp Fiction there I was like holy shit that was when Pulp Fiction first came out this was like 94 or something. Yeah, man, I didn't see that movie. But that Matt Damon movie, The Martian, was all about terraforming and trying to survive on Mars. Did you watch The Arrival yet? I almost watched that the other day. No, I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:23:17 I didn't see it either. Heard it's really good, though. It looks really good. But that kind of came and went, huh? I mean, kind of. But is that just how it goes now? Yeah, it's too fast. Things are too good, too much.
Starting point is 01:23:28 People want to watch them at home now. Yeah, that too. They're going to start allowing that to happen, I think. Yeah, charge me more. Charge me 50 bucks. Nobody's figured out how to get through the, well, maybe they have, get through the Apple TV and download it, have they? No, I don't like to steal from that. I don. Have they? I don't like to steal from that.
Starting point is 01:23:46 I don't think so. You don't like to steal from that? No, no, no. I was saying, you mean steal from that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think so. I don't know. I don't think anybody's been able to do that.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Maybe they have. But, like, when you're streaming, like, you're streaming. I guess if you were streaming to a computer, there might be a way to do it. Screen capture in some sort of way. Maybe. I don't know because they have it built into the, well, I guess it's streaming. A lot of the HDMI cables now,
Starting point is 01:24:12 when you have your Xbox or your another system hooked up to something that you're trying to do game capturing on to broadcast on Twitch or something, if you bring up a video or your TV turns on, it goes black because it knows that that signal is bad. It's not supposed to be broadcast. It's not the game signal. It's the TV signal.
Starting point is 01:24:31 And you'll probably—people's trying to show TV online. It knows that. They're trying to—whatever. They just put that stop in there. Right. But that seems like that could be removed, right, or hacked through. Maybe. But I feel like there's got to be a way to take Apple.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Like when you're using your computer, you can use a regular computer and watch things on iTunes, correct? Yes. Right? So if you were using a regular computer and you were streaming a movie, like there's got to be a way that you would be able to screen capture that with your computer. Oh, yeah, for sure. But just open up a program you made and just record. Yeah, and just record it. Yeah, yeah. a way that you would be able to screen capture that with your computer oh yeah for sure but just open up a program you mean yeah record yeah just record it yeah yeah and you would have just some
Starting point is 01:25:09 big-ass file that would be like the hobbit or whatever the hell you were screening there's probably a way they can put in some sort of digital right management thing that it will put right record to that or it'll put a big watermark on if you try to do that or maybe not and then someone will hack away against it, and that's like a battle probably going on too. A battle that will go on forever, right? Yeah. They'll just make a new file format,
Starting point is 01:25:32 and then videos will be in that file format for the next five years until it gets hacked. They'll keep playing cat and mouse games, I think. It's just really interesting. When we were looking at that video or the article rather about the people that were transmitting ola and chow back and forth through the internet and then think about this kind of stuff that you're talking about like really high level digital management you're putting out 4k imagery you streaming movies, and people are trying to steal
Starting point is 01:26:06 it. And, you know, think about all the bit torrents and all the different files that are available online when it comes to all these movies that Hollywood Studios spent millions of dollars to make, and then boom, a screener's online, like moments before it's released. And like this constant battle of technologies, it it's just it's really crazy because we could just sit here and like just show up at this ces we don't have to participate at all show up every year what do you got now okay see in a year what do you got now can you can i can you read my mind yet nope not i'll see in a year what about now well we can't read your mind but we can send you images okay i'll see you in a year can you read my mind, but we can send you images. Okay, I'll see you in a year.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Can you read my mind yet? You just keep going back. Like, you don't have to do any work. Like, no one gets mad at us. It's not like the people in the village that had to go get the water. Like, you drink water every day, you fuck. You never go and get water. They never ask you to get water.
Starting point is 01:27:03 You just got to give them money, and they'll just keep doing it. You just show up every week, what do i have here what do you have for me what do you have for me if you want to see my mind reading machine i got money not good enough nobody ever says that you know like you don't have to you literally don't have to participate in it to enjoy the benefits of it it's a rare thing yeah i was trying to think of uh like at the one of the car companies outside was showing some stuff but it was it was like they called it a statue but it was supposed to be an actual model of a car they called the car a statue because it doesn't have a drivetrain in it? There were people sitting in it. It was supposed to look like whatever a future thing was, but the girl that kept
Starting point is 01:27:51 telling you what was going on and explaining things to you, she kept referring to the car as a statue. I thought that was weird because I think I've tried to show it to you before and we're like is that real? Does that work? That's legalese. Yeah. That doesn't work then. When you call something a statue, you could say that it's because I think I've tried to show it to you before and we're like, is that real? Does that work? That's legalese. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:06 That doesn't work then. When you call something a statue, you could say that it's a prototype, like this is what we hope it looks like in the future. But based on what? Do you know what the image is? Can you pull it up? I was just trying to remember what it was. I want to see it because – It seems like if you just called it a statue, you could just totally bullshit people.
Starting point is 01:28:24 It seems like if you just called it a statue, you could just totally bullshit people. It doesn't have to have any basis in, you know, real engineering or anything. You could just say it's a statue. And it could just have, like, a design concept to it. Was it a concept as far as, like, a crazy technological vehicle? I think that's what they were trying to show off. The tech inside? Yeah. Have you you seen like uh what
Starting point is 01:28:46 new cars are doing now where all their dashboards are all lcds that's what i was trying i mean that's what they were trying to show i think a little bit was like this is what the new dashboard and everything's going to look like go ahead and sit in there it's crazy whatever one of the bmw i think it was an i8 they had it inside the event there was a long line for this so i 100 wasn't waiting but you put on the i I think it was the Microsoft Surface with it, which I don't know why you would have this on while you're driving, but maybe in the future we'll be doing
Starting point is 01:29:12 that. And you're getting all sorts of extra information. At least, but it's still just a prototype, so I don't know. You weren't driving down the street, so I don't know what they were showing to you. They're just blasting stuff in your face on what it might look like. Wow. I don't know what they were showing to you. They're just blasting stuff in your face on what it might look like. Wow.
Starting point is 01:29:27 I don't know what you would be wanting to see, though, also. Well, it just seems like whatever possibilities they have now, you just try to extrapolate. You try to add up the steps between now and 5 to 10 years from now. It's going to be really weird. Did you see the DARPA, one of the DARPA announcements? We're talking about all the different... Well, it wasn't an announcement.
Starting point is 01:29:50 It was an interview they did with one of the guys. I tweeted it, so you can find it on my Twitter timeline. But they're essentially saying the new inventions over the next 12 months are just going to blow people's minds. So apparently they're working on some really heavy duty stuff when it comes to neural implants. Things along those lines I think he was mentioning.
Starting point is 01:30:17 DARPA's biotech chief says 2017 will blow our minds. Air quotes. The Pentagon's Research and Development Division, the creative force behind the Internet and GPS, retooled itself three years ago to create a new office dedicated to unraveling biology's engineering secrets.
Starting point is 01:30:39 The new Biological Technologies Office has a mission to harness the power of biological systems and design new defense technology. They're going to make Terminators, right? Over the past year with a budget of about $296 million, it has been exploring challenges including memory improvement, human-machine symbiosis, and speeding up disease detection and response. Fuck, dude.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Listen to what that says. Human-machine symbiosis. They're making a fucking Terminator. They're going to make a Terminator. 100%. If someone comes along and one of the first pieces of artificial intelligence is a soldier, a machine soldier that makes no mistakes, feels no emotion, does everything it's told,
Starting point is 01:31:31 can send back data in 4K in real time, and you watch on a screen through its eyes and tell it what to do, and it's invincible. What? Of course they're going to build that. Why wouldn't we just send those to Mars? We would, probably. But people want to go to Mars because they want to be the first. You know, I'm here. We're doing yoga on Mars. We would. Probably. But people want to go to Mars because they want to be the first. You know, I'm here. We're doing yoga
Starting point is 01:31:47 on Mars. We're all amazing. Like I saw a couple of those, you know, they're not brand new, but like robot assistants, essentially, where it's like a laptop or an iPad screen that's attached to a droid or a little robot, and there's someone on there talking to answer questions or
Starting point is 01:32:03 whatever, and they can control it moving around the room have you ever seen those no i walked i kind of just walked by and i thought it was funny because there was three of them people were talking to and there's just one guy no one was talking to and he just looked bored just like moving around like someone talking like someone talked to me what was the most impressive thing for you at the event man honestly that i'd honestly, it was weird. Probably just because I was looking for it, but that camera, that 3D stereoscopic camera, 360 camera. But again, I'm not sure if what I was seeing was the rendered video, because that's specifically what I kept asking to see when I would walk up to one of these guys.
Starting point is 01:32:40 I don't want to be pitched. I just want to see what your rendered video looks like. Right. What is the output most of what i was seeing wasn't great or didn't look better than what's currently on the market except for that then a couple didn't even do audio or you couldn't mix audio into it and for our purpose which is i was looking for it to help here in the future i was trying to knock that out There were a couple car things Mostly just the BMW 750 The coolest one
Starting point is 01:33:10 They were showing those off there They're also doing test drives of like M6's And I think some of the self-driving cars maybe I think the 750 drives itself too I think that's the big one that does But I believe it makes you put your hand on the wheel But it'll drive Which is even freakier Like imagine it's driving for you But on the wheel, but it'll drive, which is even freakier.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Like, imagine it's driving for you. But the idea is, like, if it fucks up, like, what am I doing then? Why is my hand here? I didn't see it. I didn't take it on a test drive myself, but they had one sitting out that you could, like, get in and just kind of, like, sit in and whatnot with all the extra screens everywhere. But the back seat, which probably is, I don't know, I probably just didn't know this it's basically like a first class luxury seat like they had you could lift your feet up stick them on the back of the seat there was a place for them they have massaging yeah it was insane yeah they give you a back rub speaking of massage i don't know if it's a new hot technology
Starting point is 01:33:59 right now or if some companies are very smart knowing people are walking around this event tired and need a massage. But the lines for massage chairs at CES were insane. Well, think about this, Jamie. You run all the time. Yeah. I mean, how many miles a week do you run? I haven't been doing it very often, but at my height, probably 30, but maybe 10. 10 a week now?
Starting point is 01:34:21 Yeah. What's going on with you now? I just kind of weight training instead of running. Oh, getting yoked. Yeah. Young Jamie getting swole. Yeah, my point is, you're a very fit guy,
Starting point is 01:34:31 and you exercise on a regular basis, so for you to walk 25 miles, if that's a strain for you, imagine what it is for a bunch of these fatties. Yeah. No offense, no need to fat shame. You know what you are.
Starting point is 01:34:42 No big deal. You know, I mean, it's got to be really fucking hard. If you're really poorly fed, you know, you're eating a bunch of shitty food, and you're out of shape, and you're overweight, and you're walking around CES geeked out of your mind on caffeine, it's probably a good start for the new year.
Starting point is 01:34:59 If you could just keep that going. Yeah. Walk 10 miles a day every day. That weight will peel off you. Find a hill, unless you live in Iowa or, you know, some flat spot. Find a fucking hill. Walk up hills. It's the hardest thing. I've got one right in front of my house. It's amazing. 200 yards uphill. Take a backpack. Throw some fucking sandbags in the backpack. Walk up the hill. And then get off the trail. Like, get off the trail and just walk up the hill hill., like walk up the grass and the dirt so it slides
Starting point is 01:35:27 and you have to correct yourself. It's one of the best workouts you could do. I was in pretty fucking good shape the first time I ever went hiking with Steve Rinella when we went hunting, and just following him, walking up hills. Did we die? It's the second time it's happened. The video is still recording, but the stream is just kaputting so if do you think it's um the machine or is it the connection
Starting point is 01:35:52 with youtube we don't know did you find speaking of which did you find any new uh streaming solutions because right now for people who don't know we we're using a TriCaster setup, and it's okay. It's really good for the most part, but it has fucked us in the ass at least three or four times pretty hard. There, there wasn't a lot of stuff because, again, that was the consumer show. So consumers aren't really out here streaming four or five different devices at once and all that. But I did find a couple things that were close that, I don't know. There were upgrades of stuff we used to use, like, a couple years ago. Well, if you think about how many episodes we have,
Starting point is 01:36:36 what are we on, like, 880 episodes? 896. Okay, there you go. That's how little I pay attention, folks. 896. So think about that. 896 fucking episodes, and it's shit out how many times uh even let's see and knock down to that so we probably did 400 or so on here and it's probably shit out four or five times that's not good one one percent that's not good yeah it's not very
Starting point is 01:37:01 good it shouldn't at all. That's way too often. I mean, maybe we're fucked up. Maybe we did something wrong. Maybe, I don't know, maybe our machine just got a weird bug to it. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I've reset it multiple times, and I have problems. I do the protocol of update. Do you think it's just because it's long-term? I mean, we're doing these for hours and hours at a time.
Starting point is 01:37:23 It heats up. We do stress the hell out of it. Yeah, if you think about, like, what we do. But you know what? My friend Justin, when he was doing the action report. It's the same thing, right? Yeah, he was streaming for six hours at a time. Yeah, I couldn't.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Yeah, I think every time I think that, I find another comparison. It's like, well, they do just about as long. Justin, I don't remember having any problems with his system. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe we got a whack system, dude. It could have been. Lemons happen with cars from time to time. There could have just been some component in here that was bad that we've gotten around working with that now it's just not going to work anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Cars are another interesting thing along the same lines we were talking about earlier about technology is that it's reaching this point where, like's way too much car for like what you need like they're putting out these cars like right out of gm like they have this new camaro have you seen the camaro zl1 it it's insane i think it has five i don't know how many horsepower it has. Find out how many horsepower it has. 650. 650. Jesus Christ. And it's got a Corvette Z06 engine in it with a supercharger. Wow. It's an unbelievable car. It's a zero to 60, sub four seconds, zero to 60 car. Massive, all that, see that stuff in the
Starting point is 01:38:46 front? That's all designed to like keep the body down, all those aerodynamic little flares and stuff. That's designed for downforce so that this thing can go fucking screaming up to like 200 miles an hour. It's crazy. You could just buy that in a store. I mean, you could go to the Chevy dealership and buy one of the most competent sports cars ever created. Like that car. Remember those Ferraris from a few years ago, like a 360 Modena or, you know, the one after that 458, those beautiful Ferraris. That fucking car will bury one of those things. I mean, into the dirt. Goodbye, suck my dick, kiss my ass. America, fuck yeah, screaming the entire time.
Starting point is 01:39:29 America, fuck yeah. And it's $65,000, $70,000. Yeah, that car is American muscle at its finest, plus technology. Because, you know, real American muscles are kind of loose and crazy. Like, if you bought a real 1969 Mustang Mach 1, I mean, they're a gorgeous car. I mean, it is a stunning piece of art. But if you had to drive it today, you would be terrified. You'd be thinking the entire time, like, oh my God, I'm driving a death machine. They're so bad in comparison to a brand new Mustang. If you bought
Starting point is 01:40:11 a brand new Mustang GT, which I think you can get for $35,000, I think a new Mustang GT is like between $35,000 and $39,000. And they are way faster, handle way better than anything top of the line from, you know, the 1970s. Yeah. How much does this cost? $135,000. That's crazy. It's a stunning car. That car is 420 something horsepower. $435,000. $435,000. Crazy. That's a beast of a car for $35,000. 16 miles a gallon, $25,000 on the highway. See, like, what they've done by continuing to ramp up the specs, ramp up the regular car that you buy from a dealership, is equivalent to, like, one of the best cars ever just 10 years ago or 20 years ago. cars ever just 10 years ago or 20 years ago. So the technology is so ahead of its time that you go back to 97 and you look at the cars that were like the top of the food chain
Starting point is 01:41:13 back in 97, like they didn't even compare. They're just nothing like these things. And they're going to keep doing it. The only thing that, like, there were some cars from 97 that have some attributes that people like. Like those old Land Cruisers. If you bought a Land Cruiser from Toyota in, like, 97, you essentially got an off-road vehicle. They had two solid axles, solid front axle, solid rear axle. You could take those things and just drive up the side of a fucking mountain in it with the right tires. They were crazy beefy, like right out of the bat. And so people to this day, they take those cars and they jack them up and put bigger tires and wheels on them. And they
Starting point is 01:41:54 put Corvette engines in them just because the configuration is so durable. Like they don't really make too many. I mean, there's only a few companies that'll make like a real, a car that you could actually take right now and just go drive, like a Jeep. Jeep's a perfect example. You could take a Jeep kind of like right off the factory floor and drive to most places that most cars can't get to, or at least drive to places that most cars can't get to. But when you want to get further and further into it,
Starting point is 01:42:23 they start doing all these crazy modifications to these things and make them so that they could literally just drive through the woods What are you looking up there fella? I just remembered this badass supercar that I saw at CES. It was 3d printed. Oh Jesus it's called the divergent. I think the company that makes it's called divergent 3d. This is called the blade Oh, did you sit in the middle like a total badass? Yeah. Oh, that needs to happen. I think the whole entire thing is 3D printed, probably down to the tires.
Starting point is 01:42:52 That is just such a, that's like the alien from John Carpenter movie. Not John Carpenter. Ridley Scott. Ridley Scott's alien. That's like if he drove a car like it was on his planet look at that thing one seat
Starting point is 01:43:09 yeah someone could probably sit behind you too I was trying to find the specs to see I don't know how weird I wasn't sure too either though
Starting point is 01:43:17 if it like was it a car that can drive if it's a or if they're just also adding concept of showing like look we can
Starting point is 01:43:24 put these pieces out in 3d printing because i saw a 3d metal company it's a company that was printing stuff in metal it looks like it works though these cars today man it's it's it's really interesting because they're backed into this weird corner where how much better can they keep getting? And how long before they're all automated? Because it seems like just a matter of time. It seems like just a few years from now, they're all going to be automated. That's what a lot of the companies were showing off their automation, like Mercedes, I think, Nissan, Toyota, even NVIDIA.
Starting point is 01:43:59 The video game card company was showing off, I don't know exactly the, their software, I think, or their hardware that was being put into cars to show you like how things are being read. Like this is a car, this is a light, this is a person. Yeah. Just like how it's being recognized and whatnot. I mean, it's going to go, Mercedes was showing it and I think BMW got into a car wreck, but I don't think it was their autonomous car that got into a wreck.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Look at that fucking thing. Look at that goddamn car. And then Faraday. We're looking at the Camaro ZL1, folks, who are just listening. There it is. There's images of it online. You can go look at it. I had the Faraday.
Starting point is 01:44:40 So what's a Faraday? Didn't Fisker have a new car too? They came back, right? The Fisker Karma? I don't know if they were showing this at the event. So this is an electronic car? This is an all-electronic car that was being shown off there. They had a little issue with their reverse while they were doing their demo.
Starting point is 01:44:58 So, again, one of the problems that doesn't always—nothing goes perfect. I think they tried to announce this last year and they had some bigger issues. Did you ever see the Volvo ad where the president of the company stands right in front of the Volvo and it hits him and sends him flying? It's like, this has technology to avoid contact with humans and it just fucking runs him over.
Starting point is 01:45:20 He went flying. That guy probably broke his hip on that. It's happened a few times when they've tried to do things. People would stand in front of it trying to show off. Chaz Bono's working for this company? How dare I? Here's the car, though.
Starting point is 01:45:34 Ooh. So they're going to... I don't know if they're going to be a direct competitor. Oh, he's a hologram? Oh, it's a screen in the background. Whoa. This is going to be like a big to or another car like a Tesla. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Wow. I think they're going to be on the market this year. If not already, I think you can preorder them now. Not very good looking. Kind of boring. Not super sexy looking, which is a problem. Nope. Kind of boring.
Starting point is 01:45:58 Tesla's are very sexy looking. Yeah. That's a problem. Ooh, I like how they have the gangster doors, though. They have suicide doors in the back. Yeah, a lot of them are doing suicide doors. Volkswagen had a suicide door. The doors went up.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Look at how the door shuts itself, too. How about you save fucking battery power and let me shut the door? What is that? Everybody wants to be, like, a spaceman. Door shut. Shutting. Shutting, Dave. How?
Starting point is 01:46:25 Shut the door. That Shutting, Dave. How? Shut the door. That doesn't look good. You guys had all this time to design this thing? Spent all this money? And you made a fucking Lexus mom car? Well, I wanted to sort of ask you that. I know that was one question. So you know when they do a car show?
Starting point is 01:46:41 They'll show, let's say if they're going to do one this year, they'll show a car for 2020, and it's going to look super high concept. By the time it comes out, it won't look that way. Sometimes. That happens here too. Yeah. Well, they smooth out edges and make things cheaper to build, and there's a lot of cars that start out in concept form,
Starting point is 01:46:58 and then when they get ultimately delivered, they're disappointing. You know, come out with a bunch of different uh things that they add to them that just turn out to be too expensive is that what it is they're just they try it's the same kind of idea they're just trying something depends entirely on the car company too like toyota like say if someone comes up with a toyota has the most expensive car they sell is the land cruiser that big four-wheelwheel drive SUV. That's their most expensive car. It's pretty expensive. It's like, I think you get one.
Starting point is 01:47:28 They're all loaded. You only get them one way. And they're like 90-something, like 90,000. So if you're building something that's going to get more upscale than that, then it becomes a bit of an issue, right? Doesn't that make sense? Accidentally. I was looking for Toyota supercars as this came up,
Starting point is 01:47:49 and the Toyota Supra might be coming out again. Yeah, they're going to. That's the one question. Will it look like this when it comes out? Right. That's a perfect example. That's a concept car. I think it'll probably look a lot like that because that looks awesome.
Starting point is 01:48:02 I mean, if they wanted to make some money. But then all those angles and all that stuff, like, is it more expensive? Is it less expensive? What do we do about that wing? How does it deploy? Is it mechanical? How much does that cost? You know, what kind of brakes are we using?
Starting point is 01:48:17 It really gets into this weird area when it comes to these cars. But they also have to be stunning in terms of their ability because cars today are off the charts. What you could buy from a Subaru WRX, just one of those little Subarus, that is an insane little car, you know, and I don't think those are very expensive either. I think that's in, like, Mustang GT range, right,
Starting point is 01:48:41 where it's, like, in the 30s? Yeah, I think it's around 32 to 35, I guess. I'm pretty sure. Take that to 1970 and you will destroy any car on the road. There's nothing comes close to it. They would think you were from another fucking planet. If you took that on a race car, race car track, you'd be just blowing people away. They'd be like, what in the
Starting point is 01:48:58 fuck? Is it just particular car companies or are a lot of the newer cars getting harder to fix too where they have to be fixed by the dealer? They all have to be fixed by the dealer. Everything is computer-programmed now. They have minds. The computer programmer, or the program, rather, that's running the car,
Starting point is 01:49:15 runs the traction control system, the lane change system, accident avoidance system. Some of them hit the brakes for you. Some of them, alarms go off when you get close. So they've got sensors. They've got cameras. So getting your car fixed by a local guy somewhere isn't going to be a thing anymore. It's not happening anymore. Yeah, that's going to be phased out.
Starting point is 01:49:35 It's going to be all dealerships. It's going to be like getting your computer fixed. I mean, it's really going to be like a super high-tech computer with rubber and metal and all this jazz that connects it to the ground. That MK, Marques Brownlee, I don't know how you say his name actually, but MKBHD on YouTube, he got a – The dude who's been here? Yeah, Marques.
Starting point is 01:49:55 I don't think he got a full lemon, but he had a Tesla issue, so he just got a new Tesla, and his drive train was locking up. Oh, yeah. It got fixed, and then he got it back, and it got locked up again. Wrong dude to fuck over with a shitty car. He should have fucking tested that one first. That would cost you some money.
Starting point is 01:50:13 Right. Yeah, that guy gives really good reviews, too. His online reviews of technology are one of my favorites. Him and Lewis from Unbox Therapy are two of my favorites. Yeah, man, those things are not perfect, but nothing electronic is. What are you going to do? Somebody fucks up, somebody put it together wrong, there's some issues in the wiring, who knows? That's part of why I'm not always super convinced when someone goes full,
Starting point is 01:50:39 like this is how it's going to be in the future. Even today, with all the coolest shit we have there are still major major problems that haven't been fixed and we're i don't i don't see full fixes for them like which ones do you think like can't be fixed tesla's like if they're gonna be they'll fix that they'll fix that for 100 just stop and think about how clunky computers were just a few years ago. You know, just when 1995, Windows 95 came along. Think about how clunky the operating system was, the blue screen of death. You know, I mean, computers were crap. But this still happens all the time.
Starting point is 01:51:15 Right, but not nearly as much as it did then. Think about how many computers operate how many things all throughout your life and how rarely they crash. If they crash 1% of the time, like the TriCaster, we get pissed, which we're spoiled little babies. Back then, when you had Windows 95, you had to back up things every 20 minutes.
Starting point is 01:51:36 You could crash at any moment. You were sticking in floppy drives and backing up files and stuff. True. It's better. It's better now. It's going to be better soon. Whatever the issues that they have with Tesla cars,
Starting point is 01:51:49 or maybe it's just one Tesla that just somebody fucked up. Maybe somebody just put a wire in that had a scratch, and who knows? Who the fuck knows? I don't know anything. I don't know. I still feel like, I don't know. Maybe it's a cynic view of it. I've had, let me tell you this, though.
Starting point is 01:52:05 I've had two of those Lexus, those big Toyota Land Cruiser trucks, the Lexus FF5750, LX5750. No, 570. LX570, that's what it is. The big-ass truck. They fucking never break. Like, nothing goes wrong with them, ever. I mean, ever. Nothing goes wrong. They just every morning start it, drive it. Oh, it needs oil. Bring it to the place.
Starting point is 01:52:33 They put the oil in. They check everything. Everything's great. See ya. Bye. No problems. I'll try my Range Rovers. There's a brand new Range Rover. It's got one headlight on fucking smokes coming out of the hood. Like what happened? Like what, what is the difference between a car? That's like a super reliable car company like Toyota and a car company, you know, like, like if you get a Maserati, you get a Maserati cause it's beautiful. You don't get a Maserati cause you're planning on driving to the fucking moon and you need it to stay together. together it's not going to it's just not it sounds awesome you start up but if you get that car you're getting it because it's sexy you're not getting it because it it's well designed okay yeah i guess i don't know i want
Starting point is 01:53:21 everything to be awesome you know i think i think it should have already happened sometime. You're like those kids in that Lego movie. Everything is awesome. Do you remember that? I didn't see it. Everything is awesome. Dude, it's a cute movie. I saw it with my kids.
Starting point is 01:53:36 My kids love the Lego movies. But I enjoyed it. I genuinely enjoyed it. The Lego movie was good. I just saw a commercial for the newer one. I think it's got Batman on all the Warner Brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks okay.
Starting point is 01:53:46 Dude, they're fun. They're really well written. They're fun. I mean, you can't be waiting for things to be deep. I'm tired of deep, Jamie. Really, really tired of it. I'm less deep every year. For real.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Something that Ron White said when he was on the podcast, keep lying and stay drunk. Like, I'm paraphrasing. Stay drunk and keep lying. I mean, in some ways, the best way to handle things is to not go deep. Yeah. Like, the deeper you go. Like, I feel like we're clinging to simplicity with the last of our fingernails. That's what I think.
Starting point is 01:54:27 And I think just sitting on your fucking back porch, smoking a cigar, drinking a glass of lemonade, I think that's a thing of the past in just a few decades. I think we're going to enter into some super bizarre world that's like DARPA's talking about, symbiosis, human-computer symbiosis. I mean, people complain now that kids don't go outside. They're sitting at home every day playing Xbox.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Just imagine what it's going to be like when we get to these really intense, augmented, and virtual reality spaces. Are you scared? No, I think of that stuff about kids all the time. I don't have one, so I don't see the day-to-day, their interactions and how they're different to mine, but I just compare. Because my generation, I just turned 34, but I feel like I've just missed out on so many things.
Starting point is 01:55:17 The year after I left high school, they got, like, tablet PCs for everyone. It's, like, literally the year after I left. You were the last. Yeah. That's good literally the year after I left. You were the last. Yeah. That's good. Maybe. They'll talk about you. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:55:28 One day if you have kids, my dad grew up, they didn't even have the tablet PCs in the class. The year after he got out, that's when they came in. Whoa. But I don't know
Starting point is 01:55:38 how things would have been different had we had them because whatever we know, a lot of people always look back like if I could go back to high school now with everything I know. yeah i dominate kill everything you know you know you would do you would you wouldn't be nervous that's why you would dominate true yeah but if some kid decided to kick your ass you'd still kick your ass that would be disturbing but i didn't even
Starting point is 01:55:58 mean it like on the whole on the whole thing like that i'm just going on specifically uh like a technology uh run like if you had if i just took all my computer knowledge i have now and had an ipad when i was in high school and we could communicate with everyone throughout the whole high school all day at any time we wanted to whereas like we had to write and we were writing notes i still have i found a note from a girl in high school like not too long ago. A note? A box. It's a literal note. Dear Jamie.
Starting point is 01:56:28 Yeah, dumb shit. How I miss your touch. Stupid questions of like, this is what's going on. Do you like me, yes or no? So silly. Check here. They might write notes still today. That might still be a thing. It probably is.
Starting point is 01:56:40 I don't want to be that naive. But the purpose of it isn't there anymore yeah it's way more text messages than notes yeah so this is and then uh facetiming people we couldn't that wasn't even a possibility we had to literally if i wanted to call like if i if if i was in school with your kids i'd be calling your house like hey is so and so home can i talk to them they go get them and then we get to talk for 20 or 30 minutes maybe. Yeah, what was the first year where Skype came out, where people started Skyping?
Starting point is 01:57:10 Probably within the last 10 years. There was light video communication back then, but it was terrible. Well, that's one of the things that Apple has nailed, having FaceTime in its operating system, so it automatically works. You don't have to download anything. You have to go get Skype.
Starting point is 01:57:29 If you have an Android phone, do you have to download Skype, or does it come with your phone? I don't know, but I think that they have a thing, too. They have an Android thing, too? But what's fucked up is it doesn't communicate with the Apple thing. Everybody's got to come to... There's new apps Apple thing. Right. Like, you have to get an app. Like, everybody's got to, like, come to. Well, there's new apps, too. I mean, you can do it through Facebook now.
Starting point is 01:57:49 There's a new one that's blowing up right now called House Party, which you can have, like, eight people on. Oh, shit. And everyone can be having a video chat, you know. Yeah, but that's an app that you have to download. Like, it should be just like a phone call. It should be. Like, phone to phone. It should be phone to phone communication with Android to Apple. it seems silly to me that they go proprietary on that apple's got a bunch
Starting point is 01:58:09 of really sneaky ways to keep you around man that i message is one of them facetime is another um what is it when the uh airdrop airdrops another one for images no compression sends it through bluetooth it's amazing for videos and pictures and stuff. To say it's a problem isn't the right word, but that they are like the only record label, basically, or record distribution place. They control a lot of it. That's kind of crazy, too.
Starting point is 01:58:40 It is. Well, it's interesting, too, that a lot of musicians complain about that. Like Apple is the biggest music company in the world now. That's so strange. They take 30% of every transaction. Do they really? I'm pretty sure. Well, they win.
Starting point is 01:58:54 That's so, like, they definitely win. Everyone wanted an answer. There is an answer. And it's like, well, now you're not necessarily happy with the answer. But you got one. It's a very weird company in that regard because it's also like the loyalists the apple loyalists are so extreme like people who worship at the cult of mac and apple like i had a conversation with a dude who was sincerely bummed out that i started
Starting point is 01:59:17 using a windows computer it's like so sad he was really sad it's like come on dude it's a fucking computer it's just a computer. Yeah. Just relax. You know what I do? I type words. I type words and I look at porn. And I re-dig. I read a few things.
Starting point is 01:59:37 There's not a lot of processing power going on here. I'm not making videos. There's nothing on it. I just don't understand why everybody would get so attached to a company, you know? It's a brand loyal thing. It's real weird. Brand loyalty is real weird. This is Chevy country.
Starting point is 01:59:57 If you listen quietly, you'll hear Fords rusting. There's so many dorks like that. Like they have Calvin and Hobbes. Like he's standing on the Chevy logo, pissing on the Ford logo. Imagine putting that on your car. Imagine being that fucking stupid. If you're listening to this and you have that on your car, don't change. Stay yourself, man.
Starting point is 02:00:22 It's all right. Change if you want to, but don't worry about me. What else did you see there? Anything else worth discussing? Let's see. How long were you there for? One day? I got there Friday and Saturday. And when did you feel the stomach flu coming on?
Starting point is 02:00:35 Wednesday night. Oh, dude. Yeah. Fuck, man. But powered through. I was also kind of wondering. I could have just been one of those 24-hour things where I was like, I feel like shit now. I could feel great tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:00:45 So I just went ahead and went. Was your stomach rumbling the whole deal? No, not the whole thing. I kind of just picked up a cough and just felt weak and worn down kind of thing. Yeah, man. That makes you appreciate feeling healthy, doesn't it? Like when you're, are you feeling a little shitty right now, right? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Not 100%. But you know that feeling where you're like, man, when I get healthy, I'm drinking fucking vegetable juice every day. I'm not fucking around anymore. I'm limiting myself to one glass of wine. No sugar. No this. No that. I'm going to take my probiotics.
Starting point is 02:01:16 I'm doing yoga twice a week. You start thinking of all the different ways you can keep yourself healthy. And being in Vegas isn't the best place to think about that, too. It's the worst. It's the worst for your soul, too. Like your soul's tugged at the gambling cart. Take a chance, Jimmy. I wonder what they'll do there.
Starting point is 02:01:31 Because smoking weed passed, right? So how do you think they might handle that there in the future? Well, they're going to have to handle the extreme paranoia of a bunch of stoners going in there like, dude, I want to lose all my money. They're going to go into those casinos. Well, I think if I was running a casino, I would try to to lose all my money. They're going to go into those casinos and they're going to, well, I think if I was running a casino, I would try to figure out a way to capitalize on the stoners.
Starting point is 02:01:52 The big money that they make, apparently, is those fucking huge disco places like Hakkasan, where they get those DJs to come in. Somebody was telling us, who the fuck was telling us about this, how much they get paid? Was it Russell? Was it Russell? it might have been russell the other night because you know russell hates those electronic djs because he's into like old school hip-hop dj and he is a dj um but when you when you hear how much money people pay to get into those things like some dudes are paying
Starting point is 02:02:21 like 500 bucks each to get into those things more than that yeah how much more than that I feel like a table oh if you want a table but that's I mean they just you gotta buy the bottle for a couple yeah and then pay per head to get in yeah and girls get in for free but guys definitely don't well they were saying at a certain point time even girls were had to pay 150 bucks if you go late probably yeah that's crazy money I mean that is just swarming money. And then there's all the alcohol money on top of that.
Starting point is 02:02:47 Those are probably the biggest generators of income other than crazy gambling guys that just come in and blow their whole wad. It's $100 to buy a ticket right now for this weekend if you want to get in. That's pretty ahead, though. That's ahead of time. $100. $100. But they have open container laws.
Starting point is 02:03:15 You're allowed to walk around all over Vegas drinking. You can buy it anywhere you want. You can walk around and drink right in front of a cop. Well, here's an interesting thing, too. It's sort of an unspoken thing, but those Hakkasan places, all those places, there's booze flowing, for sure, but there's also pills.
Starting point is 02:03:34 A lot of those people are on MDMA. How many of those people? What percent? Like, if you could light people up, if a little thought light bulb popped up on their head when you looked down the dance floor at all the different people that are on MDMA, what is it, like 30%? if you had a guess man 30% is being very reasonable I was gonna go with at least 50 but I feel like that's even low yeah and it literally
Starting point is 02:03:56 might be like 60% of the people on ecstasy it's like do you do you? Are you rolling? No, I don't roll. Whoa. Crazy. Why are you here? So it's, if you're a casino, okay, and you know that all these people are on ecstasy, and you start counting all the, let's see, it's 20 bucks pills. You start counting. We're missing out on $150,000 a night in ecstasy sales. Who's selling the ecstasy?
Starting point is 02:04:31 Who's the guy? Where's all that coming from? How's it getting in? Who's aware of this? They have to know. Do they have to know or does it all come from outside? Maybe it's all completely detached. Maybe they don't want to know.
Starting point is 02:04:42 Maybe they know that they need the ecstasy in order to keep the business running. Because, like, I don't know. See, here's the thing. These rooms where people just get together and dance with a guy on a turntable that's just sort of pressing play and all this electronic music and lights, this is a recent human phenomenon. This didn't exist. 30, 40 years ago, would it was saturday night fever staying alive staying alive i mean they had disco balls that was like the best light show you got oh my god the light goes off the ball it's crazy now they have laser shows the music is insane you know confetti's getting shot through the air these people have laser shows. The music is insane. You know, confetti is getting shot through the air.
Starting point is 02:05:26 These people have stage shows. The strobes. Like, look at this. Where's this? I don't know. Random Vegas party. Dude, this is insane. I mean, just the visual splendor of it all.
Starting point is 02:05:38 The LED show or LCD. Well, actually, LED, right? Light-emitting diode displays. It's crazy. I mean, it's beautiful to look at, and all these people have glow sticks. Like that, when you see glow sticks, those people are on ecstasy. Those people are fucked up, a lot of them, like a good percentage. Like, look at the size of that place.
Starting point is 02:06:01 That's the big concert they do in the summer called Electronic Daisy Carnival. Jesus Christ. But this is also in the middle of the summer when it's, I don't know, 150 degrees out there. How many people are just dropping dead? Sweating their dicks off. They just cart them off and throw them in a hole in the desert. And this whole wall is, like, in a big LED show. Wow.
Starting point is 02:06:20 So, like, I don't know what you're enjoying on there if you're not on MDMA. Yeah, you'd still enjoy it. If we were high, we would enjoy the shit out of that. You go and smoke a bunch of weed and go and stand there? Do you think people would pay the same prices they pay for alcohol? They'd pay those for weed if they could smoke them in there? The problem with smoking in there is assholes would light people on fire. You know, I don't know if they would do it at this place.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Rarely would you find, you can, even in a group full of peace-minded hippies, you're going to find one or two dickwads that want to light someone's hair on fire. You know, by dropping ashes on their hair or something like that. So you can't really do it in that kind of environment. Well, when people are closed in together, like smoking's
Starting point is 02:07:04 fucking dangerous. Not that are closed in together, smoking's fucking dangerous. Not that dangerous. You're thinking about burns to your face. Haven't you been burned by people? Yeah. We all have. Accidentally, their cherry drops on you, and you're like, what the fuck? And your hand's on fire, you don't know why. It's because some drunk is hovering over you
Starting point is 02:07:19 with their cigarette while they're talking, and it just drops on you. That happens. I mean, that's a minor thing i mean anytime you get a giant group of people together like that though you run risks if they could give away pot see the problem with selling it even if you're selling it is you're going to be responsible for all these people having heart attacks if you give them edibles like give them that goddamn spray that joey diaz just pumps in his mouth like it's nothing this stuff is so powerful it's so powerful like it's psychedelic it's very it's
Starting point is 02:07:51 very much like acid in a lot of ways when you get a high dose of the uh the uh thc sprays and so if you were doing this experience on that i mean if you could keep it together it'd be wonderful but a lot of people are going to get super paranoid and freak out and have panic attacks. And so you're not going to want to sell them edibles. It's like, it's too strong for most folks. You know, especially people that don't regularly dabble in it. They won't know how much to take. It's not like booze. Like if someone gives you a shot, you take a shot, you're like, holy shit. Like you feel it pretty quick, right? Someone gives you a shot, you take a shot, you're like, holy shit. Like you feel it pretty quick, right? Someone gives you a couple shots. You're like, oh geez, I got to stop. I got to settle down.
Starting point is 02:08:34 Or you go crazy. But you know what a shot does. Like a couple sprays of this, who the fuck knows what's going to happen? You don't know. You're taking a chance. Hey, eat this cookie. Okay. You don't know. You're taking a chance. A cookie might be like a shot or it might be like a whole bottle of vodka. You know, it might be so much of a hit that you're paralyzed and you just want to lay in a fetal position on the ground. So anytime you get a giant group of people like this, alcohol is like the safest bet. If you want to sell it to them, everybody knows how to deal with alcohol. Whether they deal with it poorly or not, you kind of know the numbers, you know? Oh, I had five beers. Dude, don't drive. You're fucked up, you know? Oh, I had one shot. Well, you're at 350 pounds. You probably barely feel it. You know what I mean? Like we all know what the tolerances are. It's pretty, it's pretty universally acknowledged.
Starting point is 02:09:19 I'd love that a place like this exists though, man, that these kids can get together and just go fucking bananas. Cause you can make some life decisions in these kind of rooms you can decide where you're gonna how you're gonna live your life for real because if you work every day like joe smith on that fucking construction site and you show up even with your gold wbc belt and every day is hammering nails and picking up wood and thinking of the time you have off. Sometimes you can go to a place like this and you just experience joy and laughter and fun and partying. And you start to think about your job job, your real job, and you start to dread it. You start to really dread it. You start to really get sick. And you start to think about all these people that are putting on these
Starting point is 02:10:04 electronic carnivals. Why can't I do that? Or you think about something else you do. I got to make a living making furniture. I love making furniture. I fucking love designing it. I've got to figure out a way to open up a shop. And then maybe something like this, just these moments when you're away from the grind and you're just in this fantasy land and you hear it. And everyone's on ecstasy and people are walking by touching everybody's chest and everybody's laughing
Starting point is 02:10:31 and you just realize this is all temporary this whole experience is temporary and I'm wasting so much of my temporary time doing bullshit that I don't want to do and everybody tells you I want you to take over the family plumbing business I don't want to do. And everybody tells you, well, I want you to take over the family plumbing business.
Starting point is 02:10:46 I don't want to plumb. I don't want to clean out anybody's broken shitter. I want to make those LED lights that turn into floating mushrooms. I want to make those. Somebody has to make that. That's a job. I have to figure out how to get that job. That would be the shit.
Starting point is 02:11:03 I mean, all these people that we have to rely on that we keep, that, you know, go to CES every year, all those people that you have to rely on, like all those people pretty much had to take a chance. All of them, pretty much everybody that's doing any of those things where they're putting out these new technologies and showing all this new inventions, all of them had to be like disenfranchised or disenchanted with something and just, I've got to take a chance. This is what I want to do, and then this is what I'm going to pursue. What else did you find there?
Starting point is 02:11:33 Anything else? Because we've got to wrap this up soon, I think. I think that was honestly, I didn't see tons of stuff that was blowing my mind this year. I saw a couple cool things. What was the phone? Oh, the phone, yeah. So the interesting thing about try to i even had a little bit of my who made it huawei huawei yeah what's huawei i what's uh is it an android phone no yeah it does run an android thing this is it right there yeah huawei who makes uh huawei
Starting point is 02:12:03 that's the company the phone was called like a Mate 9, I think. It's the model of their phone. I was asking this guy a question about it because what it does is it has a really good lens on it, or two lenses actually. And so it's doing this thing called aperture. And I forget what it was actually calling. So I'm hitting this button here and trying to see what was going on so i was trying to figure out if it's actually doing lens blur which is what a lot of people are always after
Starting point is 02:12:31 when they're taking pictures they want a really good blur it makes your photo look good which is what that portrait mode in the new iphone is kind of all about right so it keeps the foreground in focus and the background becomes blurry like a real camera. So I was just asking if it was actually doing it or if it was simulating it using software. And what did he say? I'm pretty sure he was telling me that it was simulating it using software. That's why he was hitting that button. That's why I kept putting my hand in front of it
Starting point is 02:12:55 to kind of like see what was going on. So the cool thing about the iPhone is it uses hardware doing that, right? Yeah, it's using the 2K. As far as I know, and then again, it could be doing some other stuff. It's not the same as me grabbing my DSLR camera and having a really good lens and finding the focus point and all that it's not the exact same as that so uh when you if you did that with a camera you would be able to tell the difference in the quality of the image that's sort of what i was going on i was like i kind of should i would be able to tell i feel like just by looking at it if
Starting point is 02:13:20 it's real or not it didn't look real to me it could have just been a trick and i might not have been i might have just been looking at something i didn't think or not. It didn't look real to me. It could have just been a trick, and I might not have been... I might have just been looking at something I didn't think I was seeing. What are these kids playing here? What's this 3D game? This is eSports. So this is the Intel booth.
Starting point is 02:13:34 They're doing a little bit of... This is what an eSports game situation might look like in the future, because this is going... TBS is broadcasting a lot of eSports. There's some other companies investing a lot in it. How come they don't play those games on ergonomic chairs? Like these Ergo Depot chairs?
Starting point is 02:13:52 These are. Those are ergonomic? Sort of. They're like race car chairs. Right. But race car chairs, you sit back. See, when you're playing a game, you lean forward, just like you use a computer.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Some people do. Most people, obviously, are leaning forward. But they also have extra pads in them, so can kind of like have your back in certain spots but what's going on here is uh on this screen above them this is uh their gameplay is being rendered above their head so that you can be viewing this in 3d space so if you had a vr headset on too you'll be viewing these situations all differently in the future it's kind of just feels like a concept i'm pretty sure they were showing dude these chairs we use are so good i look at everybody
Starting point is 02:14:29 sitting in other chairs i'm like you poor bitch these these ergonomic capisco chairs um do those still have haptic feedback or sound that come out of them that no those chairs don't really or anything they're still doing that window thing huh when they have the window on the side of the computer we look in that one i was trying to show here it has some e-ink display going on which you can't you can see it moving a little bit oh whoa oh that's dope so it just looks cool yeah it just looks cool yeah well they've by having all these different companies making pcs they open themselves up to so much weird innovation this is one real cool thing and again this is one of those things I'm not sure if this is real or not this is called the tiny most camera what they're saying this camera does it's made specifically
Starting point is 02:15:14 for shooting outdoor astronomy photos it's got google the google star maps built into it and the reason I don't I'm not sure on this is because I've tried personally to take photos of stars and the moon and different things in the sky at night. It's, A, really hard to do. And, like, for one, if you're trying to take a picture of what they have down here, which would be like the galaxy where you can see the different gases and whatnot, you have to leave your aperture open for a long time, a couple seconds, and let the light get in there. Opposite of that, if you're trying to take a picture of the moon and get a detailed picture of the moon, you've got to go really quick because there's so much light coming off of it.
Starting point is 02:15:52 It's just a snap second. You have to have a really good lens and whatnot. This camera is good for both, and it's about the same size as a point-and-shoot camera. And it says that they're allowing you to take all these. And I don't know exactly how because I couldn't take this outside myself and play with it. What did they say when you asked them to describe how it works?
Starting point is 02:16:09 I didn't ask. I heard this guy giving a description to somebody else. They didn't really give a great this is all the data and this is how everything is, this is how it actually works. They have a software which says it's like a patent pending on some noise reduction filters, which would be reducing noise on your photo in sort of post after the fact, which I don't know if it's tricking it or if it's just removing some of the data from your picture
Starting point is 02:16:36 to make it look like a better picture. But it was being advertised on lots of different outlets as this is. Maybe they actually got hands-on and i didn't and they got to see it that it was proven so well it'd be really interesting if it was true if you could just point a camera up and take a picture of the galaxy that would be the shit um but you would have to have no light pollution correct i mean it's not no way it would see through the light you'd have to go somewhere right oh my god what is this thing so this is another like vr this guy's flying around in this in space this is insane you we This guy's flying around in space. This is insane.
Starting point is 02:17:05 We're looking at this guy leaning forward. He's got his forearms and his hands connected to these two handles in the front. And in the back, his feet are strapped into this thing. So he's kind of planking the whole time. It doesn't look like there's anything on his stomach. Is that correct? Or is there something on his stomach? I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:17:24 That's hard to do, man. It didn't look like the most comfortable thing yeah see he's leaning on his forearms and he's he's steering himself with his own body weight well that would be a fucking vicious workout man but when you're flying i don't think you'd be laying on something really either unless you were flying on like a carpet or you know what i mean well he's still like it's it's weird like his body's not subject to gravity but his stomach is his body's being pulled down so you'd have to like really develop your i bet a lot of people gonna hurt their back on that because like you're gonna do it and you're gonna strap yourself into that thing and you're gonna get to a point where you're too exhausted to keep planking what it says up here in the corner underneath their little banner, it says it's good for
Starting point is 02:18:06 exercise. Fuck yeah, it is. Strengthening your core and your upper body and all that. Oh, dude, people are going to be bulletproof if they keep doing that. That's going to be one of those Dance Dance Revolution type things where people start doing it and they get in shape because of it. Because this looks really hard to do. Do you remember that thing that we had on the podcast that we reviewed, that frog?
Starting point is 02:18:27 You remember the frog? Brent, I believe Shab was telling us about it, but it's a weight thing that you do where you move your body forward and backward. It's like, do you know what I'm talking about? You actually
Starting point is 02:18:42 move forward and backward with it. I think it's called the frog, but it looks remarkably similar to that thing. So imagine if you have a game where you put virtual reality headsets on and you do that frog workout thing. I can't find it. You can't find it? Give it a try. I typed in frog and it's just giving me pictures of frogs lifting
Starting point is 02:19:06 weights and stuff what about frog weight lifting equipment the frog the bullfrog no is that it what it is folks is you know that the way a frog looks when it's moving across water when uh it has those uh kicks with its back legs and its forelegs and they come together and then they go apart frog fitness there it is and this thing is this weird it's got wheels in the front and wheels on the back and you connect your feet to the base of it and your upper body to the front of it scooch ahead so we can see these guys doing this hey look i got a football but it's a serious piece of workout see here you see this guy moving, look, I got a football. But it's a serious piece of workout. See, here you see this guy moving with this thing back and forth
Starting point is 02:19:48 and back and forth. And I think you can change the resistance in those cables. You can make it more difficult to do. And apparently it gets you in sick shape. I've heard a lot of people talking about this thing, saying it's a tremendous piece of strength and conditioning equipment. It should probably open. Yeah, it's 130.
Starting point is 02:20:11 All right, we'll bring in Hunter Motts. That'll be a podcast too. But imagine doing this with like handles, virtual reality, and you're doing a game. I mean, these guys are crawling along with this thing. Imagine if you're doing this, but you think you're flying in a spaceship. You know, you're shooting shit. We just need to get virtual reality into bigger spaces so we can be moving around and be playing with each other.
Starting point is 02:20:35 I think that's a big gap we need still, too, to be fixed. Yeah, football fields. Yeah. Virtual reality on football fields. We also don't want to be—we need to not—like, if we both have on headsets, I don't want to bump into you. Yes, that's big. So they got to figure that next step too. Interesting stuff, young Jamie.
Starting point is 02:20:50 All right, we'll be right back with Hunter Motts.

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