The Joe Rogan Experience - #916 - Fight Recap

Episode Date: February 14, 2017

Joe sits down with Eddie Bravo, Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub to discuss recent fights in MMA. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Five, four, three, two, one. Yeah, I don't know who makes this weed, but fuck you. Whoever it is. It's some strong ganja. Fuck my day up. This is some Ed Rosenthal weed. It's some strong grass. Yeah, we went deep.
Starting point is 00:00:15 We went to the deep end of the pool. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Just back from Brooklyn, so we would recap this, but before, I want to congratulate Eddie Bravo on becoming 5'9". Damn! Eddie Bravo! 5'9"! It's huge, though. There's a big difference between 5'8 and 5'9". Tell me about it. I'm still 5'8".
Starting point is 00:00:33 Big difference. You can tower over people who are 5'6". When you have compressed discs, you literally get, I mean, when you look at old people and they're all fucked up like that, that's really what's going on. They're shrinking because they're disc tissues. The Chinese say you're as old as your spine. Oh, I mean, when you look at old people and they're all fucked up like that, that's really what's going on. They're shrinking because their disc tissue. The Chinese say you're as old as your spine. Oh, I like Chinese people.
Starting point is 00:00:49 That makes sense, Chinese people. They say cool shit on fortune cookies. I like that I just attributed a billion people. I was like, a billion people say it came from somewhere in China from one guy. I ordered a laptop and I got the package and it came straight from china and it just it sinks in you know especially when you know you get something that's from like a country like china like there's only one reason why they're making something in china there's one reason well there's two reasons one because they make a lot of things there so the
Starting point is 00:01:19 manufacturing tolerances are very high they make very like when iphones things along those lines but also because you know people are going to work for cheap and make very, like when iPhones, things along those lines, but also because you know people are going to work for cheap and live there. Right. Like when you get a laptop, like there's a real thing you do where you like, you know you don't want to live the way the people who made this live. Right. But you're going to get it anyway.
Starting point is 00:01:37 You're going to get it anyway. You're going to get it anyway because you can go one click on the Apple store. That's so true. It's fucking weird, man. That's the way it works, though. I know, but it's weird. And they probably got paid seven cents to make your laptop. Actually, in China, China's actually, because they've made so much money, now their workers
Starting point is 00:01:51 are demanding way more, you know, sort of higher salaries. Dude. Also, like, better working conditions. An actual bed. Guess what's going on now? Food for the day. Yeah, but they're losing jobs. Now, a lot of Chinese manufacturers are going, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Gotta go to South America. If we go to Malaysia and we go to Vietnam we can these guys are worth even less so Chinese workers are losing jobs to fucking Malaysians and Vietnamese just economy people at Apple they run it's such a tight ship they'd put nets down so many of the workers will come in suicide yeah there's nets yeah it's a company called Foxconn Foxconn's the company that makes all of the laptops and they make a gang of Apple products. I think they make phones too.
Starting point is 00:02:30 They make phones too? They make a bunch of the shit, but they literally have nets around the roof. And here's the best part. So many people committed suicide that they had to address it. And their argument was, well, you have to understand,
Starting point is 00:02:41 these people live here. So if you look at the number of people and consider it like a population, the suicide rate is very similar. Wait a minute. You can play with stats. If they live in the factory, aren't they basically just slaves? They're slaves. Yes, they're slaves.
Starting point is 00:02:57 They're slaves. Have you ever noticed? And they make iPhones. They're getting money. They're getting money. They can leave when they want. But they got money in the concentration camps. No, they didn't. They definitely didn't get money in concentration camps. You don't have to be there. You can leave whenever you want, but this is all they're going to give you.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And you're going to work 16 hours a day or whatever the fuck. At least. That's legit slaves, no matter what they're getting. Shut up. They do pennies. That's real slavery. And iPhones come from this? Yeah. Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:03:27 That's a conspiracy theory. You have an iPhone now? No way. No, that's not a conspiracy theory. How do we allow that? There's no way we would allow that. Here's the question, right? Would you want your mom to be working there?
Starting point is 00:03:37 Would you want your wife to be working there? Would you want your sister? But what I mean is that's all she could do. What does that mean? She could just put together iPhones and that's what she's going to have to do. A dollar an hour is better than no money an hour, Joe Rogan. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:03:49 You're definitely right. And by the way, what's interesting about China is that they do have a huge middle class as a result of their industrialization and all the suffering they went through in the 80s and 90s. the 80s and 90s, you've got, what, 400 million middle class workers now who are buying things like cell phones and flat screen TVs and all kinds of stuff. You know what's fascinating to me, though, is that when was, and I'll wait for when you can tell me, when was the last time you bought anything made in Russia? Like anything. That's a good point. If you could just, if you could please, just anything.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Vodka, right? Yeah, even their vodka sucks, and we don't know. How the fuck do you? And by the way, I don't know if it sucks, but we use American, Swedish vodka. Are you being paid off by Bellator for this Fedor event? Some anti-Bellator marketing strategy. But isn't that crazy? We're going to defend Fedor and his Russia of doom.
Starting point is 00:04:44 They're basically a one-crop economy, man. And they make great vodka. Crude oil, you know? Wow. isn't that crazy? We're going to defend Fedor and his Russia of doom. They're basically a one crop economy, man. And they make great vodka. Crude oil, you know? Wow. Isn't that nuts? Well, they were held back for so long. Like communism doesn't fucking work, kids. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It takes a while. And here's the most- Either there's a monarchy, which it is now, with a czar like Putin. I mean, you can't- your private property means nothing because the government can come along and go, did you say something about me? We'll take that over. Yeah. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:05:06 They just take them over and throw them in jail. That's not a damn thing you can do. So who the fuck is going to open a business? What about furs? Don't they make furs in Russia? Not really. God makes furs, bro. And they're supposed to stay on the animal.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Thank you. You piece of shit. They're supposed to stay on the animal. That's called virtue signaling. Isn't it crazy how you've got all that great, the population, they're very disciplined people. It's actually a really colorful culture that created a lot of art. And the Russians are smart people and everything else. They are, and they produce nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I'll tell you what they produce. Russian order of brides. I'll tell you what they produce. Motherfucking ass kickers. Yes, they do. They got some serious ass kickers come out of Russia. Look at who's running boxing right now. Gennady Kalovkin,
Starting point is 00:05:49 Sergei Kovalev. I don't care what anybody says. I love Andre Ward, but I thought Sergei Kovalev won that fight. He dropped him. He stunned him. He constantly pressed the attack. I just didn't think,
Starting point is 00:05:59 I didn't even think it was that close. I was really surprised. The Russians are so macho. The Russians are macho. They're a patriarchal society. So if you think about Putin, he hunts tigers. He's on horseback with his shirt off. By the way, I have to say this because people always correct us.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Like Lomachenko is from Ukraine. It's different. How fucking close is it? No, see, you say that, but that's like saying Canada and America. It's so close. But it's not. It's North America. If there's some bad motherfucker who's skating up in Canada some unbelievable hockey player do you consider American no say North American you consider him as God
Starting point is 00:06:32 he's a goddamn Canadian you is gonna kick your ass he's he's over here to play hockey better more importantly sir powerful Wayne Gretzky more importantly don't forget that the Ukraine and Russia proper it was annex annexed by the Soviet Union, the Union of Soviets. But it was essentially Ukraine has always considered themselves a sort of not part of the Kremlin. They've always considered themselves their own country. And I would remind people that a guy, nice guy named Joseph Stalin starved the Ukraine and about eight and a half million people died of starvation because he essentially collected, forcefully collected all of their crops and for a thousand reasons. And they all, about eight and a half million people.
Starting point is 00:07:14 It's an area about the size of the Midwest of the United States. Jesus Christ. Sounds like a goddamn history teacher. You know who's got a great fucking video series? Oliver Stone. The, uh, what is it? The, something's history of the? The, uh, something's history of the United States, a secret history of the United
Starting point is 00:07:27 States. Is that what it's called? Something along those lines? Yeah, I heard about this. It's fucking amazing. Gotta watch this. You know, Oliver Stone is a real history fanatic. And he, I mean, it must have been exhaust, the untold history of the United States? Is that it? Yeah, okay. Sounds like a conspiracy to me, Eddie. It's, fuck
Starting point is 00:07:43 Eddie. You want to look at conspiracies? Like, look at the way the world really works. Forget all the nonsense. This is fucking fascinating and all proven. All, like, you could watch the videos of the people saying what they're saying. You could see what happened after
Starting point is 00:07:59 World War II. Give me a highlight. What's one thing that'll trip people out? Just this horrific fucking history that we have in the world of people just going into other countries with their armies and killing groups of people. And just the amount of times that it's happened
Starting point is 00:08:16 over the history of the United States when Oliver Stone is laying it all out with the footage, the untold history of the United States. It's fucking fantastic. And it's Americans taking over. Everybody taking over everybody. It's Hitler when Hitler was pushing into Poland, when Hitler was in Africa. Like all these, the whole thing, it's chaos.
Starting point is 00:08:35 The history of people is the history of people taking over giant chunks of land and fucking things up. We just haven't experienced it over here. Damn, I'm so on the loss. We are so, we're so young. This country is so fucking young. That's right. It's crazy when you watch this documentary where you realize like, oh, this calm is like a very rare moment where the ocean is still before tidal waves come smashing.
Starting point is 00:09:00 When's the tidal wave coming? Those tidal waves are going on all over the world right now. If you're in Syria right now, you are watching missiles fly into apartment buildings. You're watching suicide bombers if you're in Afghanistan. You're watching all kinds of chaos all throughout the world. It's just not happening here. So we're being lulled. We're being lulled to this false sense of what a human being is.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Well, what's fascinating also is that in order to galvanize armies to get... God, your seat's hot! Your seat's hot! I'm scared of mice now. I'm scared of my feet getting beat by mice. The fear, though, is when you galvanize... You galvanize young armies. You galvanize armies around
Starting point is 00:09:39 what? Around ideology. Around things like communism is the best way to go. Fascism is the best way to go. Christianity is the best way to go fascism is the best way to go christianity is the best way to go islam is the best way to go and those armies have to have something they're fighting for so that's what's fascinating about if you read the old testament man it's literally about it's guys like you guys are fucking worshiping false idols i gotta send the babylonians in obviously the iraqis you know who destroyed who destroyed Solomon's Temple in 586 B.C.? Who? Which was the Jews built
Starting point is 00:10:08 their temple. That was their most sacred thing. The Babylonians. You know who they are? They're the Iraqis. The Iraqis have a fucking footprint, a historical footprint that's so much bigger. 6,000 years. It's crazy. They're the original civilization as far as modern historians are concerned. And written language. And written language.
Starting point is 00:10:23 First mathematics. Yes. Yes They're writing is these weird fun. It looks like old-school nails You know what an old nail looks like you ever work in a building ever do construction No when I was a kid we did a lot of construction in Boston a lot of those buildings are really old and a lot Of the really old buildings. They have a different kind of nail. Yeah, it's a handmade nail So instead of looking like a circle with like a straight line What they look like is like a wedge. It's a handmade nail. So instead of looking like a circle with like a straight line, what they look like is like a wedge. It's like a
Starting point is 00:10:47 hard, like flat, it's not round at the top, and they would see that's what the cuneiform looks like. Pull up an old nail though. Pull up an old construction nail. They look like a wedge. It's got like four sides. So that's what that
Starting point is 00:11:03 cuneiform. There it is. See those nails? Well, that's kind of a rotten out one. There you go. See how they look like that? They look like a wedge. See, they're like a little sword more than they are like a round, rounded cylinder
Starting point is 00:11:19 type thing with a pointy end. Handmade, too? Oh, those are all handmade. They used to have some sort of a mold to it, but you would go to a blacksmith or whoever. No, those are iron, man. Are they? Yeah, I would imagine. They're steel. I think it's green. I think it's copper. No, Brian, trust me. Those are
Starting point is 00:11:35 rusted. They're old. That's iron. That's 100% iron. You see all that rust on it? Copper doesn't rust. I got you. That's how they would make those. My stepdad was an architect, so i got a lot of jobs on construction sites like that's what i did like through high school that's a beast of a job dude it lets you know you don't want to work i'll tell you that oh yeah i roofed for a week dude i did insulation
Starting point is 00:11:59 in a fucking building in the summer so we're building this house and i'm the kid who has to carry the insulation up the stairs and put it in the ceiling. So people do that. They don't want to listen to me. They're like, listen, bitch, I'll do that tomorrow. Yeah. And a lot of people do that.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And you get it in your skin, and you can't get it out. That's the pink stuff? Yeah, and you have to wear a mask. Fire glass? You got to wear a mask because you're breathing it in. Because as you're putting that stuff up, it's flying in the air. You would see the light would come in from one of the windows,
Starting point is 00:12:23 and you would see all these particles in in the air you're like oh terrific look what i'm breathing the worst thing the worst job i ever had was tearing a house down in washington dc in the summer and then we take it and bring it out to lawton landfill and you'd have to cart it off and then we poured the base for a built like a a big apartment or a building actually a house the base with the cement and stuff. You have to dig. That kind of work. I remember going, there is no fucking way. I'm going to stay in college. I'm going to figure out a way to not ever have to do this again.
Starting point is 00:12:52 It was the worst shit in the world. And you wake up early. For some reason, when you work construction, you're up super early. You have to be. And you're driving in that truck, yeah. Now stop and think about someone in China making your iPhone. Exactly. Ten times worse.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Ten times worse. Making an iPhone or doing in China making your iPhone. Exactly. Ten times worse. Ten times worse. Making an iPhone or doing construction? Making the iPhone. They're just doing the same thing. The monotony. Every day, the monotony. Working with these machines. They demand productivity.
Starting point is 00:13:14 What kind of food are you getting there? It's got to be terrible. If you're forced to live there and you're getting terrible food, you're all packed together like sardines. What to live for? In this country, we have the same thing on hog slaughter farms and things like that. There's a routine to it. Look at all those people working there.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yeah, I'd go crazy. Oh, my God. You got AC. You're all dressed the same, too. At least the chairs are super comfortable. It doesn't look that crazy. Come on, man. That's what I'm saying, Eddie.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You want to work there? You would go crazy. Eddie, you don't see madness in that? Like you. Think of you. Look at the suicide nets. Suicide nets. Look at all these people stacked in together in these little tiny dormitories.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Free housing. That's free rent. Good point. They're hooking them up. It's like dorm rooms. You think guys get really good at missing the net? You got to just jump further. Just run like a Jackie Chan off the top of the roof.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I bet they're stoked. I bet they're trying to get that job. Look at Japan. You've seen the subways where they push you on? They push people in. I've been there where they did that to us. Oh, my God. We're in rush hour, and I wanted to go down there to see what it was like,
Starting point is 00:14:09 and you get shoved. Bring that up. You'll see these guys. They ram them to fill them into the train? They pay dudes in uniforms to push you in like a sardine for real. This is happening right now. I had it happen to me. Just over a population?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Hee hee hee. Well, you know what's amazing is how uniform people's behavior is in Japan and how people are so polite and calm and they get along. What the fuck? In Japan? Yeah, it's crazy. They had to. They had to because a lot of people are in a very small area.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Wait for the next train, you dummies. Look at this. This guy's trying to push people. Is there not another train coming right after they can't they can't have any more trains This is every day one push push that fucker get in there you sardine you so Motherfuckin so ridiculous Right now in Japan imagine if you were Just not in their pants every time they ride on that thing? Can't wait to get pushed into a girl.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It's a thing in Japan where you get a lot of guys who rub up against girls. Is that China or Japan? Big difference. Is that China or Japan? Japan. Japan is like incredibly populated but really small. I think Japan did we decide? Do we measure that as the most? 35 million-ish?
Starting point is 00:15:23 And it's very small. Can people die in that? Isn't this the size of New York City? Yeah, I think so. Go ahead and skip on the train. Japan, like, I don't know how big Japan is. I might have made that up. It's not the size of New York City.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I feel like it's the size of California. Tokyo is the size of New York City, right? But Japan itself is the size of New York City. Is Japan the size of California? How big is it? That makes sense. But it's an archipelago, too. There are different islands, too.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Big as Texas? Tokyo is like 35 million people, though. Sweat that. Stacked into this little spot. And they're super orderly. 8 million. When Curtis LeMay was firebombing Tokyo, I believe about 8 million people in about 8 days died from fire. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I think it was 8 million or maybe it was a million. The darkest shit in the Oliver Stone thing is what happened to Russia. That's the darkest shit. What happened? 27 million or maybe it was a million. The darkest shit in the Oliver Stone thing is what happened to Russia. That's the darkest shit. What happened? 27 million people died in World War II. 27 million people, man. And it's very rarely discussed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:12 How many Russians died? Yeah, in World War II. And then they had Stalin for the next 10 years. Yeah, they lost. Yeah, they had more people die in World War II than anybody. No one talks about it. And World War I. And World War I as well.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Very flat land. Very flat area. it. And World War I. And World War I as well. Very flat land. Very flat area. The Oliver Stone thing is overwhelming. I'm going to have to watch it like three or four times. 27 million. And wasn't there, this was World War II? Yeah. But wasn't there only 2 million deaths total from like,
Starting point is 00:16:39 No, no, there's a lot more than that. 2 million deaths from soldiers. 50 million as great. Most of them were civilians, the deaths. There are about 50 million altogether or maybe more from a total in World War II. No, I'm talking about just soldiers, though. I think two million soldiers totaled. Well, there's probably a lot of civilian deaths.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I mean, there were firebombing buildings. Most of the deaths by far were civilian. According to what I saw, I must— A lot of civilian deaths because there was a lot of civilian deaths, by far, were civilian. According to what I saw. A lot of civilian deaths. I saw it on CNN, though. There was a lot of civilian deaths, 100%. Because there was a lot of firebombing cities. Just indiscriminate firebombing.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Especially in Japan. We did some horrible shit to them before we dropped the atomic bomb. Even before we dropped the atomic bomb, they were firebombing cities. They killed everybody that was down there. The nuclear bomb itself. That is so crazy That they were willing to drop. I mean this is where a war gets you're willing to drop a bomb on a city I decided to say yeah, not a military base
Starting point is 00:17:35 No, and because we're because Nagasaki and Hiroshima remember were the industrial cities that were churning out a lot of the war Yeah planes and a war and there was that was where the center of their war machine was. And the civilians on that? Remember, we dropped pamphlets. We dropped my uncle's. Hundreds of thousands. My great uncle dropped the pamphlets, the warning pamphlets, saying we're going to fucking, you guys better surrender.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Got to get out of here. Yeah. They gave them pamphlets? They gave them warnings. That's how crazy nuclear power was. And meanwhile, they had only blown up shit in the desert and stuff in the ocean before. They really weren't sure what was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:18:07 We didn't know. A lot of scientists didn't know that there was energy trapped in an atom. And when they actually detonated the hydrogen bomb, we were like, wow. All the theorizing about energy in an atom and the fact that it is actually true. Because we just... That's kind of proof positive. When you see a mushroom cloud with that kind of power. You're like, oh, fuck, we just unleashed the horrors of nature.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Which is crazy because we've been in war ever since. We've had those things ever since, and no one's gotten to the point where that comes out. Everybody's like, just keep it on the edges. Come on, bitch. Is it because we realize how fucking nasty this is? There's a term for it, mutually assured destruction. Yep, mad. Can't be broken down to an acronym. each other oh yeah how fucking nasty there's a term for it mutually assured destruction yep mad um yeah your boy uh sam harris and jordan peterson had a really fascinating discussion about they
Starting point is 00:18:52 couldn't really get out of the gates because they couldn't agree on what truth was but that was a frustrating discussion very very much so but but they had a they had a fascinating idea of there are certain things that you could know scientifically that none of us should know. And, for example, there are scientific truths that if we knew would actually result in our complete extinction. Like what? Like, you know, so an example of when we found out if you split an atom, it creates a chain reaction and a powerful force that can vaporize 100,000 or even a million people, right? There is potentially scientific knowledge like that, that could have, for example, reduce everything that you know to dust. And if that's something that's actually something you could know, is it worth knowing? And would it be immoral to know? You know, that's kind of the, that's where morality and science kind of
Starting point is 00:19:45 converge and where you have an actual conversation about certain things are so devastating and it would be the it would mean the end of your entire existence so maybe that's a scientific truth quote-unquote that isn't worth having even though scary yeah yeah but the problem is the universe doesn't give a fuck about that correct the reality is if someone does invent a time machine and they hit that button we're all fucked i mean it really could happen it really is something that's you know within a thousand years whatever you give the exponential increase in technology and power and what what's available and what they can do it could happen 100 that's why it's so important to have those
Starting point is 00:20:23 discussions that's why you know the atomic bomb there was a real concern that it was going to evaporate the entire atmosphere of the earth right it wasn't everybody but there was a small group of scientists that go hold on you know what else could happen this you could kill everybody and they were still like ah we'll see what happens we don't think so well think about think about like think about the responsibility for a scientist like that right Right. Think about that idea. How about when they had the first nuclear reactor? Who was it? Who was the Italian guy?
Starting point is 00:20:50 The father of the nuclear reactor. And they were at the University of... Oh, fuck. What was the university where the... I guess the reactor started overheating. Oh, Jesus. And they had... There was a guy with a bucket there who was just going to throw a bunch of water on it.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I mean, it was, I can't, I'm Frederico. Enrico Fermi. Yes, Enrico Fermi. There it is. What a name. That's what it was. Thank you, buddy. Imagine if your name was Enrico Fermi.
Starting point is 00:21:16 At the University of Chicago. It started to trip out. I would wear only handmade suits. My name is Enrico Fermi. Enrico Fermi. I'd have handmade shoes. He was. Like loafers with nice socks. Herico Fermi. I have handmade shoes. He was. Like loafers with nice socks.
Starting point is 00:21:27 He was a genius. I think he died of radiation poisoning, didn't he? Because he might have ingested it. Oh, Jesus Christ. Poor bitch. From the time they started the Manhattan Project, how long did it take to actually figure out the atom bomb? That's also in the documentary.
Starting point is 00:21:42 That's in the documentary. How many years did it take? It was a theory for a while. They were trying to figure it out. Man, it was a theory. If we could split the atom and hit critical mass, shit, can you imagine what kind of a weapon this would be? So it was, they hired a couple thousand scientists. They started the Manhattan Project, started throwing all this money at it. Right. And then the final proof was Nagasaki and Hiroshima. That was it. Did we pull this off? And then boom. Oh, shit. They knew already that it worked
Starting point is 00:22:13 because they had a bunch of tests before they did that. One of the most horrific thing about the test was they would have soldiers run towards the blast because they didn't understand radiation back then, which is so incredible. They didn't understand the damage of radiation. There's. Which is so incredible. Like, they didn't understand the damage of radiation. There's videos you can watch online. Jamie, pull one up.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Where they would blow this atomic bomb up. They'd have them mock town in the distance. They would create these mock cities to see what kind of damage it would do. They'd put up houses and shit. And they'd blow them the fuck up. And they'd have these soldiers run towards the blast. And the idea would be that after the blast went off, it killed whatever people it killed and everybody else would be stunned and that's when the soldiers would move in.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah. So they would fucking run. Isn't that crazy? Towards the... Imagine being one of those soldiers. It's the funniest video ever. They're all dead. Watch it.
Starting point is 00:22:54 They all... They think that's what killed John Wayne. Soldiers running to nuclear explosion. Yeah. Punch that in. That's hilarious. That's what I just said. Watch.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Yeah. Looks like a Planet of the Apes movie. After we dropped those bombs on Japan, when Hirohito, the emperor, got on the radio and said, called for the surrender, one man said, it's time for us to surrender.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Every single soldier, one of the Japanese, every one of them willing to die for that cause, they dropped their weapons and they surrendered it took what they were so fanatically devoted to authority and still in many ways are so check this shit out man these fucking dudes are sitting there watching that in the distance i mean they're that close and what's crazy is like the wind from the blast comes and hits them there's a bunch of different videos of this a lot of these were the US Army would
Starting point is 00:23:48 Document a lot of their training episodes and so this is what they would do they get see that that's the blast from the nuclear Bomb look at that Fucking people are standing there these trenches, and there's a bomb going off in the distance. It's so scary I mean they knew so little about what effects it would have on people, and they let these people run towards their death. These people are all running towards radiation sickness, running towards cancer. They're running towards this fucking mushroom cloud in the desert. Wasn't there repercussions when they got home that night?
Starting point is 00:24:18 People were- They feel like shit. There's a bunch of shit. You'll never get the full fucking story as to what happened and what kind of health problems But John Wayne died because he was filming these spaghetti Westerns in the fucking in in the desert in Nevada Near these test sites and a lot of people that were on the crew of them This might be bullshit a lot of people on the crew of them got cancer Look that up
Starting point is 00:24:40 Okay, we look at a smoking no no no no it's the government man He got lung cancer from smoking. No, no, no, no. It was the government, man. He got lung cancer from smoking, John. Yeah, he did smoke. Smoking causes cancer. You don't think it's radiation? But I think everybody in the film,
Starting point is 00:24:50 there was like something about everybody in the film that worked on that film with him also smoked and also got cancer. What the fuck? What the fuck? How long did it take?
Starting point is 00:25:00 I mean, how long does... So a nuclear bomb goes off like you just saw a nuclear bomb just went off. Before you get sick. How long do you have to wait until you could, like, populate that area again? Thousands of years. Not necessarily
Starting point is 00:25:12 because. But what about, how long did it take Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Well, Chernobyl repopulated. It's not as bad as, like, nuclear waste. Chernobyl was a bad thing. Nuclear waste is the worst. It was the atomic bomb. But Chernobyl. No, no, but it's not waste. It's a different thing. I'm talking about the bomb. You just said a thousand years it would take for that bomb.
Starting point is 00:25:29 No, no, it didn't take that long. People live in Nagasaki now. They live in Hiroshima now. How long did it take? But aren't there factories with the nuclear waste? Well, there's definitely plants. There's definitely plants that have, you know, nuclear power plants that have nuclear waste in it. If that stuff gets to, like, what's going on right now in Fukushima, it's very, very dangerous
Starting point is 00:25:45 because they can't do anything about it. Yep. And it's getting worse. The radiation levels are higher in Fukushima now than when they were... They've been battling this disaster since, what, 2012? Something like that, wasn't it? But Chernobyl is a fascinating example of a major nuclear meltdown, and it's thriving with wildlife.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Thriving. Yeah, nuclear wolves. Yeah. Shane Smith from Vice filmed a show out there. Really? Yeah, they were fucking hunting wolves with AK-47s. Phenomenal. Like mutant wolves?
Starting point is 00:26:09 Mutant wolves that read your mind. Sick. They read your mind, bro. Besides the grizzlies. Don't ever play rock, paper, scissors with them. These motherfuckers know what's coming. You know there's people that think that they never figured it out. They never figured out how to make the atom bomb and they just basically firebombed
Starting point is 00:26:25 just like they did all the other cities in Japan. Those people are retarded. We were in a race with the Nazis to create a bomb. We knew the Nazis. Like the moon race. A lot of German scientists came over. For example, Einstein. Am I getting confused here?
Starting point is 00:26:41 Are you suggesting that nuclear bombs aren't real? I don't know. I'm just saying there's people that think that they never figured it out. Those people are retarded 100%. They're retarded. Dude, Oppenheimer's papers that he wrote on it and the work that he did on it, anybody could read that. Anybody could go into that. It's all documented.
Starting point is 00:27:01 What they did, the tests. I mean, there's videos of the explosions There's videos of them blowing a fucking hole in the ocean That's so insane that they had these boats these destroyers placed around the water They didn't pull that up because I forget what the test was with the nuclear But there's videos of bombs going off you can see it. It's real destruction. How do you know the Undeniable, how do you know they're nuclear and not just regular bombs because the power the difference in the destruction is insane tell me I'm fucking God dude. You're talking about a mile high
Starting point is 00:27:35 Wall of water they had no idea it was gonna do so scary How's it for your fish Joe they lost this fucking boat?'re like, we'll just have this boat sit around here. No big deal. Look at this. How's this monitor? We're getting a new monitor. This monitor keeps cutting out. I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:27:51 That's terrifying. Yeah, dude, it destroys this fucking boat. They thought they could park their destroyer a certain distance away from this nuclear bomb. So they're like, okay, so if we drop a bomb on them, how close can we be? Turns out you can't even be remotely fucking close. Check this shit how you see it from the sky. Look at this. Watch this. They set up
Starting point is 00:28:12 this fucking boat, dude. I mean, when, see, Jamie, what are you doing? You're fast forwarding? See if there's gotta be a part where you can see it from distance. Cause from distance it's so fucking insane. That's what it looks distance. Because from distance, it's so fucking insane. Holy shit!
Starting point is 00:28:26 That's what it looks like. Oh my god. You're talking like, what is that, 30,000, 40,000 plus feet in the air? That's so crazy. That's water. That's water, bro. Dude, it's insane. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:28:38 It's not even water, it's gas. The water evaporates. But a regular bomb can't do that? No fucking way. That is hundreds of thousands of regular bombs. What they can do with these things is insane. It's crazy. Nagasaki and Hiroshima are little firecrackers compared to what we have now.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Firecrackers. Firecrackers. So it's not a question whether or not nuclear power or nuclear bombs are real. There's nuclear power that's probably the reason why our lights are on right now. That's right. We use nuclear power as we speak. And you know what it does? It makes steam.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Yeah, I know. It's very clean. It gets hot as fuck and it makes steam. As long as it doesn't get out of your little holding pen. It's like you've harnessed a demon and you use that demon to make tea. That's right. He's got a kettle. It's so true.
Starting point is 00:29:24 The power that's so unbelievably hot that you constantly keep water in contact with it. It makes steam. The steams power the turbines. The turbines make electricity. But if that monster gets out. Yeah, well, a piece of uranium, I think the size of a pencil, you can look this up, can run a nuclear submarine for six months. Jesus Christ. I mean, you know, it's an incredible.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It's an insane form of energy. Yeah. It's a demon, and we're harnessing it in a cement box, and we're putting it right next to the ocean. Drive to San Diego. You ever drive to San Diego and see the nuclear power plant over there? What happened to all the nuclear bombs that Russia had? They still have them.
Starting point is 00:30:00 They have them? Still have them. That's one of the great things about where we've come. But there's some lost shit, though. There was a lot of lost material. So the Soviets figured out nuclear bombs. Because the Rosenbergs. Because you know why?
Starting point is 00:30:10 Because the Rosenbergs sold. No one else figured it out, though? American spies. Did you ever hear that story? Tell the story. So the Rosenbergs, a husband and a wife, sold nuclear secrets to the Soviets. Fucking haters. Because they were communists in this country.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And when they sold them them and was it Truman? I think Truman put them to death in the electric chair. They were both killed for high treason. But the Soviets got those nuclear secrets. We were the only ones
Starting point is 00:30:34 who had it for a while and now those motherfuckers sold it to a lot of people. How about Pakistan and India just pointing them at each other? Remember this too. As the rise of anti-Semitism
Starting point is 00:30:44 in the 30s in germany and certain scientists and jews were getting assassinated beat up a lot of the german scientists because there was a real renaissance in germany and austria a physics renaissance and with along with people like albert einstein they emigrated to the united states because they were like i don't think they like the Jews over here in Germany. And we benefited from that mass immigration. It's pretty cool. We've talked about this guy on the podcast before, but the biggest crazy scenario, like ironic scenario, was Fritz Haber. The guy who simultaneously was winning the Nobel Prize for being able to extract nitrogen out of the air.
Starting point is 00:31:26 At the same time, they wanted to try him for crimes against humanity, being the first one to gas people. And he created Zyklon A, which was this really fucking horrible smelling pesticide. It was a terrible poison, but it had a horrible smell to it. And that smell let you know that it was there. The Nazis took it and turned it to Zyklon B. They had a horrible smell to it. And that smell let you know that it was there. The Nazis took it and turned it into Zyklon B. They took the smell out of it, and they used it to gas the Jews.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And this guy was a Jew himself and a scientist. Dude, he wanted to flee in the country. He was a patriot. He wanted to help Germany, his beloved country, win World War I and said, I think I can help you guys with a gas that will kill everybody a lot of people And we'll just wait for the wind to shift and he was a patriot in his mind He was killing the enemy who were trying to take over his country He was a Jew and then of course in nineteen, you know, well starting my god and probably 39 they started using this gas what happened to him in the finals he wound up dying fleeing
Starting point is 00:32:21 They started using this gas. What happened to him? In the final solution. He wound up dying, fleeing Germany. He had a heart attack. He had a heart condition. His life was hell, man. His wife committed suicide in front of him because of what he was doing. Shit.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And he left his son with his wife's body while he went off to war to go do more of it. That's right. The whole thing is, it's just, it was a different place. Yeah. It's a different world.'s not santa monica where you're going to fucking starbucks and you're getting some sugar-free latte son of a people people will always starve we had to worry about the winner we had to worry about we were relying on guano we relied on guano on bat shit yeah and bird droppings from the coast of chile people go
Starting point is 00:33:01 to war to get bat shit do you know? That's where the term bat shit crazy. That's where it came from. Not in Africa. People would go to these places in Africa to take guano, and other people would come from other countries, and they would go to war over this stuff because it's the best fertilizer you could use. They needed it. They were the way to get nitrogen into the soil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:17 But Fritz Haber and his buddy, another guy who perfected this, came up with a way to get nitrogen out of the air, which becomes ammonia. That's how it drips into a liquid form. They suck it right out of the air, dude. So we don't die of starvation anymore. Modern day farming, and the reason you've never met anybody who died of starvation is because of Mr. Fritz Haber.
Starting point is 00:33:38 You better start getting more fucking grateful and less high because you're just laughing in general. They say that 50% of the nitrogen, 50% of the nitrogen in the human beings today might have come from the Haber method. That's like the estimation. Shout out to Haber. Shout out to Haber. The air that you're breathing is like 80% nitrogen.
Starting point is 00:33:55 We think of it as oxygen and carbon dioxide. It's mostly nitrogen, which is really weird. That's why pure oxygen fucks you up and gets you high. And it's dangerous, right? It's super flammable. It probably can's dangerous, right? And super flammable? You're super flammable. You ever go to those oxygen bars in Vegas? We did that once.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Everyone's tried it at least once. You jack shit for me. Yeah, it doesn't do anything. They're so stupid. Have you been scuba diving? No, I'm scared. I was, fuck that. I was in, fuck that. You gotta do it. You'll never. Did you almost die for it? Yeah, I went to. I'm not going to that alien world. I went to fucking Tahiti. Oh, look'm scared. I was, fuck that. I was in, fuck that. You got to do it. You'll never. Did you almost die for it? Yeah, I went to.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I'm not going to that alien world. I went to fucking Tahiti. Oh, look at this. Biggest nuclear explosion ever equals to 57 million megatons of TNT. But is this YouTube? You tell me, Eddie. Just watch this. Eddie is silly, Goose.
Starting point is 00:34:37 This is YouTube. It's called the SAR bomb. It's like way bigger than that. It's sourced. I'm sorry. Look at this. Look at that. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:34:44 That's in the atmosphere. Remember who signed the anti-testing treaty in the atmosphere? Look at this. Look at that. Look at this. That's in the atmosphere. Remember who signed the anti-testing treaty in the atmosphere? Look at that. That's incredible. Kennedy and the Soviets signed a pact to not do this in the atmosphere anymore. What did Jamie try to talk? This was in the Arctic Ocean when they did this in 1961. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:34:58 The biggest bomb ever tested. God. That's like the final scene in a video game when you win. Do you know where they made these movies? They made them in Hollywood. Eddie. No, no, at the Lookout Mountain Studios. You could look that up.
Starting point is 00:35:12 This is not made in Hollywood, Eddie. This is a video of an actual bomb going off. Kennedy and the Soviet side. It's not real. I'm just saying they edit it in Hollywood. Oh, I see what you're saying. They had the biggest studio, Lookout Mountain Studios. It was a
Starting point is 00:35:25 it was a top secret Air Force intelligence that's the one we're talking about right up in what do you think they should just let
Starting point is 00:35:31 some dude who works at the video store edit it who would they have edit it it would go to someone who's like the best at editing shit it was the biggest most advanced
Starting point is 00:35:39 movie studio are you saying that that's fake no no no I'm just saying that's they admit it that's where they put it they film it and they edit it together, but they didn't change it. They just
Starting point is 00:35:55 Everything everything in any well, that's why Kennedy signed the anti anti treat anti testing treaty the atmospheric testing I came in word it, but he looked out in the window I said when word we weren't but he looked out in the window and said, when we're detonating these bombs in the atmosphere, where does that waste go? And they were like, it just rains down on people. He goes, well, that doesn't make any fucking sense because we're doing it. The Soviets are doing it. And that's when they signed a treaty not to do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:36:19 They don't test nuclear weapons in the atmosphere. We don't. Soviets don't either anymore. Nobody does anymore. Nobody does. But Russia did launch some sort of a missile test recently to violate a treaty, apparently. Yeah. It's all getting very scary, man.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Putin's very gangster. Very gangster. Yeah, well, he's... I watch House of Cards, bro. Pretty much get it. Putin's created an atmosphere. Again, you know, he's just a product, a symptom of the Russian mindset, maybe. But, like I said...
Starting point is 00:36:44 He's a hard man in a soft time. He's a hard man who makes his country weaker. When was the last time again? Hard man in a soft time. He bought anything Russian. That's what's going on. I mean, it might be a soft time for Russia, but it's a soft time for us. I mean, Obama said something interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:58 He said, we can ignore Russia. They make guns and some oil, but their guns aren't even that good. Nobody needs them. Obama said that? Yeah. You didn't really say it like that. Are you quoting Obama? Are you stabbing yourself in the finger like you're in a fucking Jesse Ventura movie?
Starting point is 00:37:14 Live on the edge, brother. I live on the edge. This is knife roulette? That's definitely not the edge. As he's quoting Obama. That's not my edge. That's hysterical. That knife came from the Congo, and it's probably got all sorts of diseases on it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I know. Like, dang it. Justin Ren probably hit that in his ass. Yeah, that's the only way he can get it over here. the Congo, and it's probably got all sorts of diseases on it. I know. Like, dang it. Justin Wren probably hit that in his ass. Yeah, that's the only way he can get it over here. So please, take it easy with that thing. Yeah, he had a... Justin Wren stole that from a poor kid, so please. This would be gold in fucking jail.
Starting point is 00:37:34 It'd be my shiv. That's what you would use? Fuck yeah, and I'd drop it. It feels to me like your fingers would slide right up on the blade. You'd have one good stab, and you'd cut your hand. Not the way I hold it, brother. Well, do you put your thumb over the top? First of all... Like a top? First of all.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Like a pen? First of all. Like you're going click, click? When I yard fight, when I get in a yard shanking fest, I'm slicing. I'm opening you up. I'm fucking, I'm unzipping motherfuckers. Brian has actually studied knife fighting and knife fighting techniques and what these guys do. No, I catch him watching these weird videos.
Starting point is 00:38:02 He's had a conversation with me. Yeah, he's like, dude, you're like butter. They'll slice you open like butter. I'll unzip you. I'll scribe your spine from the front. I gotta go catch him watching these weird videos. He's had conversations with me. Yeah, he's like, dude, you're like butter. They'll slice you open like butter. I'll unzip you. I'll scribe your spine from the front. I kind of go. I can't do this. Bro, I can cut you this way.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I'm an adult. I open you up this way, brother. I pay taxes. He'll show me a video on Instagram. Dude, look at this guy deadlifting 600 pounds. I'm like, cool, man. My friend John Rallo was showing me some pictures on his phone. We went to lunch the other day sending me Showing me some pictures On his phone Went to lunch the other day
Starting point is 00:38:26 He was sending me Some pictures on his phone Of this dude he trains with Who's a freak Just a freak Yeah 100% natural Tested many times
Starting point is 00:38:34 I'll have to see it And homie is He's dead lifting Some ungodly amount of weight Like 700 pounds Or some shit From behind his back Jesus
Starting point is 00:38:42 Behind his back He's going like this Going behind himself And lifting this up. And he's showing this to me. And he's got, he had 600 pounds on his back for a squat with no hands. He puts his hands like this in front of him. Oh my God. And he does a full deep knee squat with 600 pounds resting while he's in a prayer position.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yeah. Yeah. No hands. He's just crazy. Yeah. Like I can do with like a bar by itself. Oh my whole shit. This motherfucker's got like 600 pounds and squatting like this.
Starting point is 00:39:05 He's insane. Big country fed white boy. Giant black guy. Giant. Super athlete. Well, you know, the naked gorilla to my left over here, you did, according to your brother, you did like over 700 pounds. Yeah, but not like.
Starting point is 00:39:16 This is one of the. This dude's doing it with like his asshole. This guy's won 40 world records. Oh my god. 4-0. Oh my god. Yeah, he's just a freak. And Rallo was telling me about him.
Starting point is 00:39:28 He's like, dude, I'm telling you, this guy breaks almost every... And he's not the heaviest class, so sometimes he competes against people who are heavier than him, and in those cases, he doesn't lift as much. It's so nuts. Did he play any sports or anything? I don't know. He's just really good at lifting. Just insane.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I forget his name. He's the best at exercising. Just unbelievable physical strength. This is what these guys are into, like Mark Bell, you know Chris Bell, the documentary maker and his brother Mark
Starting point is 00:39:50 from Bigger, Stronger, Faster. These fucking guys, there's videos, their whole Instagram is like videos of them pushing a new personal record. They got their fucking elbows all wrapped up
Starting point is 00:40:01 and everything's wrapped up and Mark's actually got this thing called a slingshot that you put your arm in. It's like this thick rubber neoprene thing that you bench in and everything's wrapped up. And Mark's actually got this thing called a slingshot that you put your arm and it's like this thick rubber neoprene thing that you bench in. And he's benching 600. These fucking gorillas are all clapping. It's great, right?
Starting point is 00:40:16 It's great. It takes like a half hour to get into that suit. They're slapping each other with powder and chalk in the air. And all they're trying to do is just like lift heavier and heavier weight. It's crazy. I love it. I take a weightlifting class now from an Olympian guy. No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yes, I fucking do. Venice Barbell Club. Yes, I fucking do at the Venice Barbell Club. How ridiculous is that? I saw you try to deadlift in Austin. It looked like you were going to die. Dude, it's so sad. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Oh, that was when he was doing like 495. That's that Primal Swolger dude. That dude from Instagram. It's just ridiculous kettlebell routines. He's one of the on it instructors. And this guy is just stupid strong. And he was dead lifting. It was like 450 plus 100 pounds of chains, right?
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yes. Yeah. So it's like 550 if you get the full. We don't really get the full chain. You know, some chain left. But he's a young warrior who likes the chain. It was great. It was like a savage. It was like a goddamn savage. That dude always works out in the full chain. You know, there's some chain left, but... He's a young warrior who likes the chain. It was great. It was like a mouthpiece.
Starting point is 00:41:06 It was like a goddamn savage tattoo. He always works out in the shortest shorts, no shirt on, I would too if I was bodied up like that. Bodied up.
Starting point is 00:41:12 All the chicks around the honor. Bodied up. No, you're thinking about Juan's brother. The mouthpiece is too much. I'm thinking of Primal Swolder. That's who he is on... There he is.
Starting point is 00:41:22 No, that's Eric, I think. No, that's the wrong dude, man. That's his brother. Yeah, it's his brother. But Juan is a beast. His brother's a beast. Yeah, I just saw him. Oh, is that the same guy?
Starting point is 00:41:32 No, different guy. I'm talking about the other guy who wears glasses over there. But just go to Primal Swolger. That's him. That's Primal Swolger. Go to his Instagram page. Have you ever noticed in that, like when you try to click on Instagram pictures from a Mac,
Starting point is 00:41:45 sometimes they don't open up in a new window? The kid's in shape. Maybe it's the difference between Safari. He's bodied up, man. Yeah, go to that upper left one. The kid is in shape. Dude. Looks like a Ninja Turtle.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Dude, John Wolf worked me out on it when I was there in Austin. This goddamn fucking shitty computer screen. We've got to get a new TV. This TV does not communicate with our computer right. Step your game up, son. He does all these flow exercises. Shorts couldn't be smaller and go out in public.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Shout out to short shorts. Shorty shorts, jacked as fuck. What a stud. A young warrior. Kettlebell swinging stud. His brother Juan is the other head instructor there and forget it. I would never wear a shirt. John Wolf is the shit, too.
Starting point is 00:42:25 John Wolf gave me this whole hip series of workouts there. He gave me this hip thing. It's all body weight exercises. It's just extending your foot forward. You do like 10 reps that way, and then you do 10 reps as a side kick to the side and hold it out in the air. And then you do 10 reps left and then 10 reps right in front of you. You do circles.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Did it with him. Oh, did it with him. Amazing. Unbelievable. Then he had me take... John said, let's just work. you. Like you do circles. Did it with him. Did it with him. Amazing. Unbelievable. Then he had me take, John said, let's just work. Yeah. I said, I asked him a question about the mace and he goes, yeah. And he grabs a 15 pound mace.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And I'm like, uh, dude, I'm a lot stronger than 15 pounds. Give me a fucking break. Okay. Yeah. Uh, we did five rounds of some crazy shit and 15 pounds was simply perfect. It was more than I could handle. I work out with a 25 pound club. You know those Indian metal clubs?
Starting point is 00:43:08 A 25 pound steel club. That's it. 25 pounds. But when you're doing shit like those things where you're swinging them over your arm like Conan and just holding it in place. Phenomenal exercise. You realize our biggest weakness is the things that are always going bad on people. And that's the connections.
Starting point is 00:43:24 It's not necessarily your biceps, right? It's usually the connection between your bicep and your shoulder your shoulder to your back the tendons It's all our connections and when you're doing things like yoga and when you're doing things like these club bells We're you holding these big steel clubs in front of you and you're swinging them over your head You're developing like very strong in front of you and you're swinging them over your head, you're developing very strong tissue in all your shoulder joints and your elbow joints and your wrist joints because it's constantly manipulating the different- And it's kinetic.
Starting point is 00:43:53 The different weight of it. I mean, gravity is pulling it this way and that way and you have to stabilize it and you're using all these weird muscles that you don't use if you're pushing a Nautilus machine or just doing something simple like a last bench. Yeah. You got these isolation things where like you're holding one thing and you're moving it in a certain way by itself, like whether it's kettlebell flows or whether it's using steel clubs, like you're controlling like all of your different stabilizing muscles
Starting point is 00:44:21 in a very unique way. Like holding static positions too. Like I remember you used to do that one. It's like a yoga exercise where you're on one knee and you have one leg straight out and your arm straight ahead and you just hold that. I just started doing yoga and that, I have a whole new respect for yoga. I mean, I've been doing it now three weeks and man, it kicks my ass. It's an hour
Starting point is 00:44:45 and at the 30 minute mark, I'm done. I gotta leave. I walk out, dude. You haven't been in yoga class that I haven't walked out of. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:53 You're flexible, right? It's so hot. It's so hot. Yeah, but you just gotta bring ice water. Wait, I do. Bring ice. After 30 minutes, I get crushed.
Starting point is 00:45:01 30 minutes? I get crushed in 30 minutes. It depends on how your body is. But, and then I lay there, and it's so goddamn hot. It's like 110 degrees in there. It's ridiculous. You gotta stick it out. No, no, I have no choice.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah. I have no choice. Every day I'm looking at it. Feel like you're gonna die? I actually am proud of myself for going, because that's the hardest yoga class they got at Core Yoga. They got all different kind of levels. No heat at all.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Little bit of heat. I didn't even know it was an accident it was just perfect 10 30 in the morning wake up i just go go right down the street and it was just kicking my ass from day one just crushing do you do well i'm sure i could barely hang i leave there and i gotta i i'm too tired to get in the shower i'm just like dead are you good with the cold eddie can you handle the cold better than you can handle the heat yeah but i want to kill two birds with one stone I want to stick it out and I want to be able to I mean there's old ladies that do it You know and they're fine and just holding holding your arms up and all these poses I agree. No wonder yoga chicks have big shoulders and triceps your sexy
Starting point is 00:45:59 Oh, man, all those poses that look they look so easy In a picture They look like Oh they're doing Tai Chi Try doing Try holding your hands up For an hour Try doing the 90 minute class That should attest Your willpower
Starting point is 00:46:11 No no no Hour Yeah hours enough for me I do 90 minutes every week Sometimes I've done it three times in a week But doing it at least once a week Sometimes I do
Starting point is 00:46:19 There's a 70 minute class That they do there sometimes It's really good Because they don't talk at all It's just like you know It's for people that already know the positions. It just tells you what to do with the positions. You just go through it at your pace?
Starting point is 00:46:27 You just go through it. No, no, no. You know, she says, like, begin and end. She says what the position is. But none of that explaining what to do while it's going on. And there's a little, there's like, some yoga places, not the one that I go to, but I've been to some when they start talking about, like, the mystical properties of this position. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:43 So have I. This is good for the ascending colon. I'm like, bitch, you know you didn't go to medical school. You don't know what that's doing to your colon. I love it too. Dude, I used to take classes down in Venice and there would be some awesome, awesome, like good looking dude who would come in in beads and a great body. He was a yogi.
Starting point is 00:46:59 There's one guy, I can't remember his name. He was the greatest. He would teach and the girls all loved him and he would adjust you. And I swear to God, you'd get into a position and he would say, and let's not fight this. Let's just have our own relationship with our own God. And there it is. I love that.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Feel how much energy it does take to reach to the back of the room. And I name. And I name. And he would start singing. And he had a great voice. And I'd be like, I was like, I'm resonating with his voice. I give myself over. Last one I was at, I haven't been back since I was at this hot yoga.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I don't say where it was a 90 minute class. And there were, for whatever reason that day, that morning, there was just hot chicks everywhere. And it was this dude comes in and the girl next to me goes, he's strict. He's known for being strict. I'm like, well, it's yoga. So let's relax. We go in there. Whoa, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:51 10 minutes into it. Calls me out. Brendan eyes up front. Let's not gawk. Let's not go. Oh no. Swear to God. Let's not gawk. No, I'm fucking balls deep.
Starting point is 00:48:00 That's embarrassing. Get my, you know, my hamstring. So it was unwarranted. Yeah. A hundred percent. And it was super embarrassing. I trying to get my hamstring up. So it was unwarranted. Yeah, 100%. Wow. And it was super embarrassing. I was like, hey, man.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Don't just cock-blocking. Yeah. Hey, you fuck. I know. I'll punch that yogi in his face. Because I was switching legs, and I didn't know what everyone else, what we were doing. I was so into it. And so I looked around to see what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:48:20 He's like, eyes up front. Brendan, eyes up front. Let's not gawk. Let's not gawk. That would make me so mad. Because I would be gawking. But I don't want to be called out for it. they were doing he's like eyes up front brendan eyes up front let's not gawk let's not gawk that would make me so mad because i would be gawking what a shitty what a shitty thing to say if you weren't actually doing that do you think he's just hating i'm not sure what's going i haven't been back yeah it kind of hurt my feelings embarrassing well there was a guy that used to teach yoga at
Starting point is 00:48:38 my place and he was like real sort of hardcore like a very like intense dude and he you know he would like teach it the class was it was had a totally different vibe to like i got along good with him but his vibe was different you know his his vibe was like you're like you're gonna have to tough this out it's military yeah yeah it was a little weird it was like yeah come on man we're just stretching that's how this guy was and he goes calm down i don't want to be aggressive all right and this guy was saying he goes uh oh you can only get water when I tell you to get water. And he goes,
Starting point is 00:49:06 once that door shuts, no one can leave. So go now. This guy did that too. It's fucking yoga. I don't like that. There's a guy, Brian Kess,
Starting point is 00:49:13 who is one of the more famous guys. He was really smart about it because he opened up his school in Los Angeles. He studied for many years and he said, oh no, all are welcome
Starting point is 00:49:22 and there's no money. And people are like, what? And he goes, just donation if you want. No big deal. Yeah, the place I used to go to had that. Yeah, and you just donate.
Starting point is 00:49:29 But he made millions. Did he make bank? Because what happens is people go all the time and they're like. They feel good. Yeah, you're like, you're not even asking for money. The class is open to everyone, first come, first serve, totally democratic. And what you do is people don't like taking shit for free, most people. Most people are like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:49:45 I'm going to give you a hundred fucking bucks today. Because I really appreciate, I would do that. Like, I give to NPR because I listen for free all the time. So whenever they have their drives, I give it to them. Eddie, where do you get your news from? Are you kidding me? Hey, how about... How about the fights?
Starting point is 00:50:02 The fuck? We're two hours deep. I was going to say that, but the Bikram yoga guy got fucked, right? Wasn't he trying to rub his bone around girls and stuff? Well, it was a lot of that, yeah, apparently. Bikram, Bikram. He would also walk around in a gold Rolls Royce, and he had a speedo on. I mean, I've been to his main college. They interviewed him.
Starting point is 00:50:19 They asked him about it. He says, lies, lies, lies. And then he said, women will pay 1 million dollars for one drop of my sperm oh and the lady was like what he goes one drop of my sperm 1 million dollars damn and he was just saying that they were liars and that's all nonsense he was a badass his wife was high he drove around in a rolls-royce he made millions of dollars he would he was the one who came up with hotbox yoga yoga rightikram yoga, right? Yeah. Well, not really.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Apparently, they had been doing that even in the same positions for the longest time. Well, India is so hot anyway. But he promoted it in the United States in a big way. He used to be a bodybuilder. He used to lift weights. He was jacked. Yeah. You've seen, there's pictures of him back when he was young.
Starting point is 00:51:00 He was jacked. Awesome. He yells at you. He would yell at you. Yeah. He's great. He's slinging dick and giving out fucking back massages. Look at that. He was jacked. Awesome. He yells at you. He would yell at you. He's great. He's slinging dick and giving out fucking
Starting point is 00:51:06 back massages. Look at that. Everybody's in there. In a Speedo. Yeah. The greatest. He's a bad motherfucker. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:14 He's wearing that to scare the guys away. You know what I mean? Let me scare the dudes away. I used to take class all the time. I'll tell you, it's so hot in there, man.
Starting point is 00:51:22 You want to wear something like that. You don't want to have anything on. It's so hot. I wear little shorts class all the time. Well, I'll tell you, it's so hot in there, man. You want to wear something like that. You don't want to have anything on. Yeah. It's so hot. I wear little shorts, little short shorts. They're like Primal Swolder shorts.
Starting point is 00:51:30 You do? That's what I wear in my yoga class. I like to wear a Zumba. I just wear board shorts and a Roots of Fight tank top. I don't wear a shirt. No way. It's too hot. It's too hot.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I'll come do one with you. No one in my class wears a shirt. Chicks have to though They have to wear more Poor girls Yeah But yeah They're all in bikinis
Starting point is 00:51:50 Do you do the Bikram poses Like the Do the whole deal man Do the whole deal It's no joke It's not easy An hour and a half Will get to you
Starting point is 00:51:56 You gotta hydrate That's a big thing Hour and a half Damn You gotta hydrate When I get up in the morning As soon as I get up I start drinking water
Starting point is 00:52:02 It's big Gotta drink a lot of water Before I get there I take a bunch of soon as I get up, I start drinking water. It's big. I drink a lot of water before I get there. I take a bunch of Shroom Tech, eat some fruit. I just roll out of bed at 10, 15 and just get in my car. I sweat all day. That's why you quit in 30 minutes. You got to prepare for that shit.
Starting point is 00:52:14 It's an ordeal. It's a fucking serious ordeal. Sitting in them squats for like 10 seconds. But I'll tell you what, man. It's done wonders for my back, wonders for my flexibility, wonders for like my joints, like joint pain. It's the shit. And for your brain too,
Starting point is 00:52:28 man. And at our age, we have no choice. No, we have no choice. You have to do yoga. I mean, unless you want,
Starting point is 00:52:34 you want to be that guy that's 75 and can walk on his hands. Check out. I don't want to be that 75 year old that just barely get to the TV. You know, you ever seen I anger, I anger. Yoga is no joke. Bring up by anger.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Uh, take a look at what he's doing at 70.engar Yoga is no joke. Bring up Iyengar. Take a look at what he's doing at 70. Take a look at this motherfucker. How do you say his name? Iyengar. Iyengar is... What is his spell's name? I'm sorry. I-A-Y...
Starting point is 00:52:55 I think Iyengar. A-N-G-A-R. I-Y-E-N-G-A-R. He's no fucking joke, dude. He's the guy. He's the original. Is he your new boyfriend? You're way too excited.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Now this motherfucker does... Is he your new boyfriend? No. He's older. Yes. But he, his students That's homophobic. This show is now homophobic. Congratulations. What have you done to us? Let's take a look at this motherfucker. What he did when he was younger. The poses he would
Starting point is 00:53:18 hold at 75. I'm trying to find that guy. Oh, okay. It's stupid. And he, how old is he now? Is he dead? Old, but... No, come on. Powerful dad bod.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Fuck you, Brian. Not a great body. That guy sucks. He's fucked. But his buddies, his buddies are fucking... If you were on ecstasy, you'd let him just rub all over you.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Look at him. But he would do some crazy shit, dude. He's full of gut and tits. This is the guy you're telling me is so impressive? Brian was so high
Starting point is 00:53:43 on this guy. Watch this, though. I'll tell you right now, Brian, this is not impressive. Watch this guy. That flat ass ain't impressive. impressive? Brian, so high on this guy. Watch this, though. I'll tell you right now, Brian, this is not impressive. Watch this guy. That flat ass ain't impressive. No, no, no. Watch the shit he does. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I'm watching. When he was really old, he was doing- Where's his butt, bro? You gotta see him do the scorpion pose. Where's that? Look at that ass. That's the worst butt I've ever seen. Look at his face.
Starting point is 00:53:59 It's the worst butt. Where's his butt, bro? Dude, this is 76 before people really lifted weights. This motherfucker's doing basic yoga. My yoga teacher would fuck this guy into the ground stretching. Wow. Okay, I don't think you were correct. Because that right there is pretty goddamn impressive.
Starting point is 00:54:12 That's pretty good. No, no, no. He does way more crazy shit. Look at his tits hanging to the side. See, the thing about this guy, though, is he's built like a popsicle stick. And when you're built like a popsicle stick, you can put your body into weird positions. Yeah. Because you don't have any muscle to stop it.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Like, there's certain poses. You know this one? Where you go under the arms and you're supposed to... I can't do it. Yeah, that's hard. It's not happening. It's not happening. There's too much meat involved.
Starting point is 00:54:34 See, I keep it right here, Joe. Yeah. I keep it right here. That's what it is. I try it, though. Because even in trying it, you're getting to stretch. But I don't think there's enough physical real estate in my troll-sized arms to fit in there. That's all I got. We gotta see him do, like,
Starting point is 00:54:47 scorpion poses and shit. He was the guy who would do... Well, I think we found our new movement, Coach. Well, women and people with long arms can definitely get their arms in better positions like that, because they have more to work with. But that also comes up in jiu-jitsu, right? In jiu-jitsu, like, the ability to get darses and... Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Eddie can do that. Yeah, Eddie. No, I can't do that. Eddie can't do that. I can't do that. Yeah, you can, Eddie. No, I can't. I can't put my leg down my head like that. Look at this shit.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Just dudes who can triangle themselves like that. It's not that freaky. That's pretty freaky. Well, it's pretty freaky. He's old, though. Come on, bro. That's freaky. That guy's old as fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:18 You know why he's doing this? Because he's thinking about how much dick he's going to sling after this video is done. Dude, he was doing this shit when he was 70. He's getting warmed up. He's like, I'm going to's gonna swing at this video's done He was doing the shit when he was 70 He's getting warmed up He's like I'm going to fuck like this let me show you I get two feet on the ground and up like my dick is my leg That's how I'm fucking I think he's still alive but he was doing at 75 he was doing scorpion pose
Starting point is 00:55:38 He was on his elbows like this See eat my ass pose Oh look at his ass I double triangle suck my cock. Kellen, he is not alive, bro. Dude, he's never going to die. This is in 76. Bro, he's immortal.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Holding his weight. He's 100 years old here. Dude, his ass has deteriorated into the great beyond. He's 30 years old in this video. His ass going inward. Wow, that's amazing. He's 30 years old in this video. Dude, look at this fucking spinal flexibility, though.
Starting point is 00:56:02 That is incredible. Yeah, don't fuck with Iyengar. What did I just say? That is incredible. He, don't fuck with Iyengar, what I just say. That is incredible. He honeydicked you into thinking it was no big deal. This is gobble me own cock. I can fit him in a suitcase right there. I can fit him in a tote right now. Gobble, gobble, gobble.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I can bring him in a tote and be like, I brought my fucking yoga instructor, everybody. Gobble from here, and I lick my toes as well for extra stimulation. Back to center gobble from here, and I lick my toes as well for extra stimulation. Extra stimulation. Back to center gobble. The Chinese say your shoulder is just fine.
Starting point is 00:56:31 This is how I gobble from my backside. Notice, not a lot of spinal movement. Just gobble. Look at that. He's talking, by the way. Talking to you the whole time. Teaching you the whole fucking time. This is what I'm thinking of coming in my own mouth.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Maybe. Not sure. Not sure. Not today. Today you don't deserve it. Today's stretch. Feel the burn. Oh, one finger on his fucking toe, bros. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:57 This is not that impressive, Brian. Fuck this guy. But you know what you rarely see, though? You rarely see people that are built, like jacked people, that are really good at yoga. There are a couple guys. I want to see someone. I mean, I know that Hickson, when he was young, was pretty fucking fit. Not like that, though.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Oh, dude. His students? He was 190, 195. But he was way better at yoga than most people know. Like, Hickson did amazing shit. He used to be able to stand in a full split on a balancing bar with his leg totally straight up in the air. Damn. On a balancing bar.
Starting point is 00:57:28 There's videos of him doing it in Santa Monica. He's standing on a balancing bar with one leg, grabs his other foot, and extends it over his fucking head. Hickson was a freak. Well, I think our American students got muscular. Some of those American students, like this guy Shoemaker, who I took a class from. Holy shit. Built like a brick. Who's dominating the yoga game now?
Starting point is 00:57:46 Is there like one dude just killing the game like my boy B-Groom? There's still a bunch of B-Groom studios. They're all over the place. But I got to think. Let's tank it, though. I got to think that that guy being so crazy and all the crazy stuff that he gets in trouble with and all the assault allegations, whether or not they're true. You know, the other thing that he did, you know, the thing, the tax evasion thing where
Starting point is 00:58:03 they found a bunch of like a warehouse filled with Ferraris and Bentleys and shit? And he said that he was opening up a school for children to teach them auto repair. So that's why, I mean, come on, bro. This guy's amazing. He's awesome. He's amazing. And he's a yoga guy. Everything's so fucked up about it.
Starting point is 00:58:21 He's supposed to be peace and love and prosperity, and it's important to spirituality, not the money. No, fuck that. It's Ferrari's motorcycles, bitches. Multi-millionaire teaching stretching. It's great. Yeah, now I think he just stays in India now. He says, fuck America. Is there anyone else killing the game like that? Not really. No, not that I think of.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Shiva Ray, Shiva Ray, Max Strom. There are a lot of guys who have a really great reputation, who have a lot of students there was an older lady that taught at beacom that was pretty famous denny knows her she went to do her own thing 80 and she's in tremendous shape oh isn't she the lady that runs that the place golden bridge or something like that in la yes she's like a kundalini master right yes yeah kundalini is the shit that the people who do it, and even Denny says, you can have psychedelic experiences on it. That if you do it and you get into a certain state where you do the yoga over and over again to enough, you can actually stimulate that part in your brain that produces DMT.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I'm just trying to get a stretch, man. Eddie, your friend, that lady, the lady that you went to Egypt with didn't she wasn't she She was able to do that right she would tell you she'd have psychedelic experiences So that's you people that we know bang. Yeah, she would head bang at 4 in the morning to shake up the I don't know that maybe the DMT. I don't sound stable. She wanted to shake Four in the morning, shooting a headbang. Oh, my God. I know. It's funny, right? She was into it.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Well, but the thing is, like, your brain does produce that shit. And so these people that say they know how to do it, it's not outside the realm of possibility. Like, it might be possible for you to figure out a way to do it. I've never done it. I've only done it through the drug itself. But there's got to be a way to get your brain to do it. I had a, well, it sounds, I don't even know how to explain this, but I swear to God, there was a period of time when I was practicing Taekwondo so much,
Starting point is 01:00:11 and I was like, you know how you get to a point where you practice enough where you can think your kick out? I know you're going to laugh at this. If you didn't tell me you started releasing DMT I'm real serious. This was so crazy. Before you say anything, I'm going to tell you, whatever you're saying, I'm going to have a problem with it.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I knew that. So I'm going deep and I'm committed. You didn't know whether to say it or not. You left off at when I used to practice Taekwondo so much. But I think the way I was stretching my body opened up something where I went. I kicked and I swear to God, it's going to sound weird, but from that point on, I got way neater with the way I kept my room and the way I kept my car. And it made sense to me. Something aligned.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Okay. And there was like a- That's a lot of taekwondo right there. This sounds like such a drug-induced thing, but something happened there. And then I saw God. I thought you were going to say that you were throwing so many kicks that your arm, you were just punching way harder, like that movie Rookie of the Year. Well, I felled a tree. I felled a tree.
Starting point is 01:01:07 A tree was in the way, and I side-kicked a tree over it. I don't see any Stevie, my man. A giant oak. No Steve? All right. All right. We'll do it dry today. We'll do it dry.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Fuck it. We'll do it dry. We'll do it dry. We'll do it dry. Hey, man, are we going to talk about the fights, guys? What fights? Yeah. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:01:22 A lot of people fuck. Enough about Kundalini and Iyengar. A lot of shit happened. But that's the beautiful thing about- I was looking forward to seeing Hickson do yoga. Yeah, let's watch that. I thought young Jamie was going to pull that out. Brock Lesnar forms UFC of retirement from MMA.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Removed from drug testing poll. That's what I would do, too, if I wanted to take drugs. Just saying. He looks good, though. If I wanted to get super jacked again, I'm like, listen. That's exactly what you should do. Stop jacking. I'll come back someday.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Someday we'll work out a deal. But for now, I'm going to toss bitches on their head. I like to do that when I'm like, listen. That's exactly what you should do. I'll come back someday. Someday we'll work out a deal, but for now I'm going to toss bitches on their head. I like to do that when I weigh about 340. For real. Well, Brendan and I were talking about how I like TRT for people like Anderson Silva. I want Anderson to take testosterone and whatever it takes, because
Starting point is 01:02:00 I want to see the old Anderson. You don't like the dad bod? No, and I'm serious. For me, a great like that, who's obviously getting older, I want to see the old Anderson. You didn't like the dad bod? No, and I'm serious. For me, a great like that, who's obviously getting older, I want to see him fight at the best he can. I miss his incredible skill set. And by the way, if he's got the mind, he understands fighting on such a deep level, his body might just not be responding as fast as his mind wants to. I want to catch his body up to his mind.
Starting point is 01:02:23 TRT won't help that reaction time either. Yeah, but that's because you're supposed to end your career when your body doesn't react the same. Look, you can make an argument for the Vitor Belfort School of MMA, because that's what you get. You get the old veteran with the young body. You're talking about Brian? Yeah, I'm talking about when Vitor was at the peak of his most latest cycle,
Starting point is 01:02:43 when he knocked out Luke Rockhold, when he fucked up Michael Bisping. When he knocked out Luke Rockhold, when he fucked up Michael Bisping. Dude, when he knocked out Dan Henderson the first round, he was a goddamn force of science. I mean, that's what he was. He was unbelievable training, a lifetime of skill. All that stuff is important first, right? A lifetime of skill, a lifetime of technique,
Starting point is 01:03:01 ridiculous, ferocious warrior spirit, right? He's motherfucking Vitor Belfort. Then you add in synthetic testosterone and you get a monster. That's what you got. I'm telling you, that guy to this day, that period, I think is one of the scariest fighters that has ever fought in the sport. I think TRT Vitor is one of the fucking scariest guys that ever did MMA. Definitely best 185 on planet Earth at the time. He was for a while, man. He was terrifying.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Dude, he was fearless. He destroyed Rockhold. Wheel kicked him in the fucking head. Wheel kicked both of them. He threw two wheel kicks in his whole career. One of them was he missed with Luke Rockhold. The other one he hit him in the face. We never saw that from him before. He threw some kicks. He threw some knees.
Starting point is 01:03:46 But he was more of a boxing-styled fighter. And then fucked up Bisping's eye with a kick. Yeah, a head kick. Bisping would never be the same. Well, Bisping's having some issues before that as well, but that definitely didn't help. No, it didn't help. Look, Vitor was a monster, man. When he destroyed Henderson. Look at him now.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Like, his last fight, even with Weidman. He's just not the same animal. He's going to fight Kelvin. Kelvin Gaslam in Brazil. What do you think about that? Why do you think being in Brazil is a big deal? Because he can get some help to regulate his body back to where it was.
Starting point is 01:04:18 What are you saying? Because when you get all testosterone, your body starts producing estrogen and all that. You can't get it back. If you sign it, it goes to Brazil, right? They're going to go to Brazil for sure. You should go to Brazil, yeah. You just won't go a lot. They won't be there all the time.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And with Jose Aldo, when they tried testing him, they made the guy, he had to stay at customs. They wouldn't let him leave. It was super weird. Well, tell the whole story. Do you know the whole story? You got this. The first time they came, he wouldn't do it. He wouldn't take the test because he said he didn't know the guy.
Starting point is 01:04:46 But apparently the way it happens, like, you know, I've talked to people that have been tested. They're like, it's super shady. They come up to you. They'll take you into a room. They'll test you. It's not sterile. They're just like, we want to test you right now. They'll watch you when you go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Tim Kennedy said they had to watch him take a shower. They had to look at him. Jesus Christ. Like, you get home from training and they're like, we want to test you. Why do you have to shower? I can't take my eyes off you. They're that way for a reason, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:09 It's because people are cheating. Yes. They can't. So, anyway. So, the Aldo guy, they're trying to deport him. They're trying to kick him out of Brazil. Like, they're literally trying to get him out of there. They're trying to say, you don't have any authority to test us.
Starting point is 01:05:23 You're not even from this country. Like, they're throwing the kitchen sink at him. Then, finally, the next day, they get him to of there. They're assigned to say, you don't have any authority to test us. You're not even from this country. They're throwing the kitchen sink at him. Then, finally, the next day, they get him to test. He gives him a test, and then he trips and spills it. Who does that? Aldo. It's fantastic. It's like, what? There you go. And then, so he has to give
Starting point is 01:05:40 him another one. It doesn't mean anything. He didn't fail. It doesn't mean anything. He didn't fail. It doesn't mean anything, but it's all like these guys, like Vandelay runs away from the guy. Yeah. They come to his gym, back up the go, takes off. Sure. You know, which is the most, he got fucked more than anybody ever in the history of that.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Because they banned him for life, which is insane. It's insane. 100% insane. Did someone verse that? Nope. Well, they did. They made it unconstitutional or whatever the fuck they did. They said it was illegal, but they haven't reinstated it.
Starting point is 01:06:08 No. But did you see they're about to give Cyborg an exemption? Well, they- Did you see that? They figured out whatever it is that she has, whatever personal medical issue that she has, and that this drug does help that personal medical issue. And since it's not necessarily a performance-enhancing drug, what it is is it's a diuretic.
Starting point is 01:06:29 It also helps when women start experiencing effects from androgens. It mitigates some of the negative effects of androgens. There's a bunch of different properties that these different diuretics have. And whatever her condition is, apparently they're examining a testosterone therapeutic use exemption. And it looks like she won't be as suspended as long. Which exonerates her. And all of us who said that she was doing something she shouldn't have been doing. But we don't know what the reasons why she was doing it in the first place are, but we know that-
Starting point is 01:07:02 In her background, though, it not like crazy to assume other things but that durand to me as soon as she won she's like everything's all good like how do you uh cyborg she's ready to go okay my fucking hand hurts i'm down a little while yeah isn't that crazy you're talking about a 46 time world muay thai champion right or 46 no in muay thai 10 time world muay thai champion and you bring up cyborg and she's like jesus, my hand is killing me. Before that, she was all good. She's like, world champion, you're going to fight Cyborg. She's not afraid of Cyborg.
Starting point is 01:07:31 You think she's afraid of Cyborg? No, no. She's not afraid of Cyborg. No, but you can't say that right after a fight. I don't think she's afraid of anybody. Maybe her hand was broken. I'm sure it is the truth. I'm going to fight with the broken hand,
Starting point is 01:07:43 then I'm going to fix it. No, it's not broken. She could go in there with an AK-47 and Cyborg would knock her face off. Do you think so? Yes. It's going to be interesting. Say that again? It's not.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Say that again? Cyborg's going to destroy her. Isn't she a 10-time Muay Thai champion? Do not care. I do not care. It doesn't matter? It doesn't matter. It does matter.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Well, you saw what Cyborg fought Jorina Barge, right? Jorina Barge won the fight.orina Barge, you know, won the fight. Cyborg was very brave for taking that fight. She got knocked down. She landed some huge shots. She did. But that's also straight kickbox. It's also big gloves, right?
Starting point is 01:08:14 Yes. And Cyborg, people forget how strong she is, how good she is on the ground, and the way she hits. Those kicks aren't going to do shit. Enjoy that, Joranomy. Damn. Joranomy was impressive. I just feel like that, Geronimo. Damn. Geronimo was impressive. I just feel like that's, I mean. Damn.
Starting point is 01:08:28 You're that sure? I'm 100%. Yeah. What? Cut to Brennan Shaw. Kiss of death. She's the champion. Cut to Holly Peronda.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Yeah, dude. Cut to Eddie Alvarez. It's a big problem for Connor. You didn't say that, did you? I did say that. Cut to Connor. He hasn't sold me yet. Yo, come on. I've always been a Connor dick cutter. Who has he fought hasn't sold me yet. Yo, Conor.
Starting point is 01:08:45 I've always been a Conor dick rider. Who has he fought? You guys see the fucking Conor Mayweather thing? It's getting close. They're saying that it's literally agreed upon. Amazing. So what do you think is going to happen? Do you think that he's going to run into an issue with the UFC?
Starting point is 01:08:58 Or do you think he's right about the Ali Act? I don't know, but I think- Have you looked at it? I have looked at it. What I think is going to happen is I think Dana... There's no way Dana would let this happen without being part of it. I think they come to agreement with the UFC and Dana's part of it. And it happens.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Here's a question for you, Joe. Who's going to commentate it? Because boxing and UFC, you know what I'm saying? It would be a boxing match. It would be a boxing commentator. Yeah, but you need someone who's knowledgeable on Conor McGregor. You can't have three boxers. No, it would be way, way better if they did it than if the UFC commentators did it.
Starting point is 01:09:30 No, you have to have both. I think you have to have one balls-deep boxing expert and one MMA expert. Why, though? Because Conor comes from that background. They can give you the history of Conor and all that stuff. But the sport is boxing, so I feel like you could have somebody who'd just brush up on that, right? I don't think so. I'd rather have someone who represents us.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Would you not do it, Joe? No, I don't want to do that. Really? I want to watch it with you guys. I don't want to get drunk. That's fair. Come on, man. Listen, if that's happening, we're getting hammered, and we're going to fucking broadcast.
Starting point is 01:09:58 For the biggest companion of all time. I'd rather do that than be there live. I swear to God I would. Hell yeah. I tell everybody. I'm like, I love commentating for the UFC, but I fucked live. I swear to God I would. Hell yeah. I tell everybody. I'm like, I love commentating for the UFC, but I fucked up when I started doing the Fight Companion. Because the Fight Companion is epic. It's so much more fun when we get fucked up and we're laughing and howling at each other.
Starting point is 01:10:17 There's a knockout. And we're watching the fight together. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But it's better. It is better. Being there live is fucking insane and I enjoyed
Starting point is 01:10:27 this past weekend but I would have definitely enjoyed it more if you guys were there yeah and if there was better fights what the hell
Starting point is 01:10:32 should you do we should fucking we should make some sort of a deal where like we do it like this like let those other guys
Starting point is 01:10:40 take over the commentary and we'll just have this like we'll have like two sound things you can choose. You can choose A or B. Yeah, you can choose, like, Espanol. Instead, it's just companion.
Starting point is 01:10:49 You just go from- Companion button. Have a Spanish interpreter. Listen, man, it's, you get to see people- No, you don't even need a companion button. Chill and have fun. You don't need a companion button. You just flip on the internet.
Starting point is 01:11:00 It's too hard to sync. Oh, the sync. Okay. The syncing's annoying. Syncing's annoying. Yes. We should do, that should be, like, the Spanish channel, or the span, you know, it should be like a little button you press It's an option. Yeah, like you get closed captions, you know, you get closed captions. Yes
Starting point is 01:11:14 Watch the you just put it on mute and like what everyone else on mute I want to hear the slap of the kicks. I want to hear dudes move around I want to hear the slap of the kicks. I want to hear dudes move around. I want to hear them get back to the punches. I want us to hear it. I want us to be in here. See, what we're missing, what we're missing is not that there's anything wrong with the commentary. The commentary is great, but we can't really broadcast the commentary because it's not our product, right?
Starting point is 01:11:37 But if we were sitting here, we were watching it, and we had a raw feed where there was no commentary, just slaps and punches and kicks yeah and you know and we would also like have our own take on what the fuck is happening rather than the commentators take and you know if we're wrong it'd be even more hilarious because four drunk stone dudes talking shit while they're making each other laugh it's like mystery science theater what if they offered you a deal but they said no weed you can can't smoke weed. He would say, okay. That doesn't make any sense. That doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:12:07 It's legal. Like, marijuana is legal in California. We're adults. We pay taxes. Just for weed itself, I'd have to stand up for weed. You know, that's like if somebody said, you could do your stand-up, but you can't swear. I'd be like, because of who? Like, it's not hurting anybody if I swear. It's not hurting anybody if I smoke weed.
Starting point is 01:12:22 No, I'm not going to agree to that. That's stupid. Because I'm in a position where I don't have to agree to stupid shit right that's a stupid Thing to agree to imagine you work with someone one you're working with someone They're like I really like you Brian, but I want you only wearing yellow Okay, you can work with me, but only wear yellow you understand yellow is our color It's how we want to be represented when we're giving you ones and zeros We want you to dress with appropriate colors that So stupid. I can't smoke weed.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Fuck you. What do you want, a shitty show? Exactly. What do you want, a less real show? We could sponsor, get sponsored by certain weed companies. Maybe no alcohol for Eddie. Sponsored by certain wine chateaus. Bypass on the alcohol for Eddie. Perhaps a wine chateau. The alcohol.
Starting point is 01:13:00 We don't necessarily need alcohol all the time, but every now and then we go off the rails. For the main event, a couple shots What we're going to have to do is on the next studio I build, I'm going to have a button Where we're talking over each other button So a button I can press, we don't have to say it, but we'll see flames all around us Like, oh, it's going bad, like videos behind us that show flames Okay, we're there, we're there, we're there
Starting point is 01:13:24 Just to let us know. Everyone has a button. When they're talking, they hold their button. Oh, that's ridiculous. Radios do that. Walkie talkie. Electric shock. You see who's live.
Starting point is 01:13:37 There's a light. Dude, that would be so weird. You can't get talked over. They do have these things, these arms that we have, that have a light on it when it goes live. I would just hold it. That I didn't think would look good, but now I decided I'm a dork. I want a little light on these things that light up when we're on the air.
Starting point is 01:13:52 That's kind of cool. Makes us feel. Is it a green light? Live. No, it's red, bro. Well, that means something. Like that's up. Like the one on the air.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Like Brian Seacrest has. No, it means fire, bro. I see you. Brian Seacrest has one of those? Oh, fuck yeah, he does. Do you think he wears makeup before he does radio? He has everything. He does everything. Do you think his shirt has before he does radio? He has everything. He does everything.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Do you think his shirt has rips in it? Two in his pants? Like everything. He just fought that Puma P45 that killed those alpacas. I spent two fucking weeks with that guy. Did you fuck him? Did you guys suck each other's dick? He's a small guy. He's about 140 maybe. I enjoyed towering over him.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I don't know what you're talking about. We got drunk in his study we were reading. Was he cool, B? Was he like a guy's guy or were you guys like jacking each other up? He's a nice guy. I didn't really. He's a friendly guy. I've done his show before.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I said something to the effect of, he did well this year. He made $13 million that year. I go, things went well. He goes, having a lot of fun. Having a lot of fun. He's like, he produced the Kardashians. Yep. He's involved with all that shit.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Oh, yeah. He's a beast. He's involved with all that shit. He's a beast. He's getting paid. Stupid paid. I think he's originally from Finland or somewhere. He's originally not American. Fucking foreigners. I think.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Fucking taking over our jobs. Stealing all our fucking factory jobs. Trump the president. I think he's Swedish. Is he from somewhere else? Two-term Trump. Two-term Trump. I'm wrong. I think he's Swedish. Is he from somewhere else? Two-term Trump. Two-term Trump. I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:15:06 He's killing the game. On American Idol, there's two hosts, and the one guy was like, fuck it, this isn't going anywhere, and Seacrest stayed with it. So he's from Georgia,
Starting point is 01:15:16 so Brian just made that up? But the Swedish part of the show. There's a Swedish section. Now, would you say you're completely full of shit? Yeah, there's Little Sweden and Jordan. He's from Little Sweden
Starting point is 01:15:24 and Georgia. Is Jennifer Lopez still on one of those shows? American Idol's no longer. No? Jennifer Lopez is doing a cop show. American Idol's no longer? No. I think they're bringing it back, but it's been off for a couple seasons.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Oh, Jennifer Lopez is doing that show with Ray Liotta. Is Steve Schripp on that show? That's the Ray Liotta. Yeah. Did you see J-Lo at the Grammys? God damn, she is fun. She's 45. She gets better and better, man.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I think she's older than that. I think she's 50 now. Is she? Late 40s. God. She and Rose McGowan are my two favorites as far as physically. Yeah, don't ever compare those two. Seems weird that you mentioned that.
Starting point is 01:15:57 J-Lo's so good looking. No, no, no. Rose McGowan is not a basic white girl. Her face is very pretty. Let me say, I did something with her back in the day. I did this thing for VH1 where I played a perverted fashion photographer that was just in it to get laid
Starting point is 01:16:09 and I had a couple scenes with her. She's cool as fuck. Yeah. And she's very pretty. Oh yeah. Her face is gorgeous. Her body is gorgeous. Marilyn Manson was dating that. That's right. We did this thing, it was 1996 I think it was
Starting point is 01:16:25 Somewhere along there 97 We're talking about The girl from the notebook No Rose McGowan That's not Rose McGowan Rachel McAdams
Starting point is 01:16:31 You're talking about The chick with the big eyes I'm thinking of Rachel What was she in What was Rose McGowan in That's me naked That's my ass Oh shit
Starting point is 01:16:38 You got the dick Hanging out the front Yeah my dick was showing What Yeah the idea was Damn she is gorgeous That's not Rose McGowan I said to this girl Do you have any problems With nudity That's Rose McGowan Yeah, my dick was showing. What? Yeah, the idea was... Damn, she is gorgeous. That's not Rose McGowan, though.
Starting point is 01:16:48 I said to this girl, do you have any problems with nudity? That's Rose McGowan. Oh. You gotta see her in real life, dude. She's sick. She's so beautiful. She's beautiful, man. That's a bad shot.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Look at Brian. Look at him. Brian, Brian, look at him. Brian, look at him. Look at your girl again. Oh, my God. Damn, you had your dick hanging out the front of you? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 01:17:07 I had to show her my dick because the idea was I had to say, do you have any problems with nudity? And she said, no. Cut to me naked taking a picture of her. It was me just being a crazy person that was like really into photography. That's hilarious. I was just trying to get laid. I didn't know anything about photography. That was like the joke.
Starting point is 01:17:24 It was made by a friend of mine who was one of the writers on his radio. That's hilarious. I was just trying to get laid. I didn't know anything about photography. That was like the joke. It was made by a friend of mine who was one of the writers on his radio. That's funny. How's Paul Sims? Do you ever keep in touch with him? I run into him or talk to him very rarely. What's he up to? Last time I talked to him was when Phil Hartman got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. We went down there to be there for it.
Starting point is 01:17:40 There was like a whole celebration with a bunch of Phil Hartman fans. Paul was working on a bunch of different shows. He's always working on different things. I think he did Boardwalk Empire for a while. What else did he do? That show's so good. He's so awesome. Paul's so smart, man. He's one of the most
Starting point is 01:17:57 unusually talented people I ever met. He's an incredible writer. Hilarious, but just super smart atlanta boardwalk cool as fuck news radio do you ever see news radio the show he used to be on one of the greatest sitcoms ever dude he was the coolest guy ever to work for if you ran a show because he didn't give a fuck if you came up with a funnier line like when when he would write none zero i know the whole writing crew was just about get the best line out there. Dave Foley was constantly rewriting shit.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Constantly. We would write jokes for each other. We would see something and Vicki Lewis would say to Andy, how about you try this? She was amazing too. She was great too. Candy Alexander, amazing. It was a crazy cast.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Super, super, super talented. Andy Dick was amazing. Andy Dick would kill you with the shit he would do. Dude, I had to do many scenes with him, and you did an episode with him. Yeah. You can't, like, it's hard to, like, keep a straight face. Like, if I'm supposed to be pissed, like, I'd be like, Andy, what happened? And he would say something, and you'd be, like, biting your face, the inside of your face, to keep from, like, I would slap myself in the face in between takes to try to get like I don't know I
Starting point is 01:19:05 didn't laugh he's so funny and unpredictable like he's so talented like I did less than perfect with him too and he would just come out and do shit you'd be like what's he gonna do now and he was always fucking hilarious and there was Steven Root who's like one of the best actors I've ever met he became this other person he was like this he would do a scene he would just become someone else yeah he just wasn't there anymore like he would be Jimmy James this, he would do a scene, he would just become someone else. He just wasn't there anymore. Like he would be Jimmy James. Like he would get out
Starting point is 01:19:27 of the room, he'd be Steven Root, he'd be hanging out with him, he's like this normal guy and then he'd come on the set with his suit on
Starting point is 01:19:32 as Jimmy James and he's Jimmy James. Oh yeah. It was weird. He was a real actor. That guy's been acting forever, like highly trained,
Starting point is 01:19:40 skilled, like a things guy. He was the only one in the cast that had like a real character. Yes. I mean Phil was just an exaggerated Phil but his character like had a different way of talking a different mannerism
Starting point is 01:19:50 like he had all planned that out it's an amazing amazing show chemistry like that is very rare it's just creates gold it's really i don't know how we got to that but that dude didn't give a fuck he's like all about the best line whatever the best line is whoever's coming up with the best line yeah but when you work in an whoever's coming up with the best line. Yeah. But when you work in an environment like that, then it makes it fun. You work with like,
Starting point is 01:20:09 someone's like super restrictive and like, you know, like they don't let you just express yourself. Then, you know, those sitcoms are just the worst. I mean, you've been in those environments too.
Starting point is 01:20:19 It's fucking hard to do, man. This is so easy. Yeah. Like to do a podcast is the easiest form of show business of all time it really is it is and like for doing shit it's the best form it's crazy it's like the least managed it's the the least prepared but like if you're listening if you like if i'm doing something like around my house like if i'm cleaning my office or something like that i want to listen
Starting point is 01:20:40 to a podcast yep me too i listen when i work out now. I used to only listen to music, now I listen to podcasts. Jesus. I know that one. You might be balls deep. I know. Balls deep in the world. Too deep. There's so much to learn. In the game.
Starting point is 01:20:51 It's all your fingertips, man. Yeah, I feel like you don't have enough time in the day to learn shit. Well, you can hear the smartest people on the planet talk. Like, you can go
Starting point is 01:20:58 to Sam Harris' podcast and listen to the smartest motherfuckers on the planet have a conversation. Or the dumbest. You can listen to people who are super stupid and make yourself feel better.
Starting point is 01:21:05 I don't listen to them. Do you think this is doing something to the way people communicate? I do think that the world is becoming less brutal and ignorant in many ways. For example, you'd find in, if we went back even 100 years, but let's say 130 years, you would
Starting point is 01:21:26 find a large portion of the globe that could have a conversation with you on why slavery is necessary and can be virtuous in certain circumstances for certain people. And you'd have no problem finding maybe half the globe who would have a serious conversation with you justifying a form of slavery in today in 2017 you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who could morally or ethically justify the idea that you should own a slave in north america right but no no no in the world also it's economically not viable anymore see like if you could do something like Foxconn and have a bunch of people stocked up inside some place and feed them and house them, and they work 16 hours a day and jump off the building so much you have to put nets around, what is the difference? The only difference is they can leave. It's like they can leave if they want to, but it's some weird kind of form of slavery.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Well, there's always going to be indentured servitude or whatever it is, depending on the economy. What I'm saying is that you would have, for example, the minute you said to people. I know exactly what you're saying. I know exactly what you're saying. And that's progress to an extent where the concept. But isn't it bizarre? I mean, like what we're talking about, like you get something from Japan or China, rather, and you know that it came from one of those kind of factories. And you're okay with it. I one of those kind of factories. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:46 And you're okay with it. I mean, we're all okay with it. We have to be if you want a new iPhone, right? Well, if you want any phone. Yeah. Even droids, Android, everything. I don't know. Samsung, I don't know how they make their shit. Come on.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I don't know. No, I'm okay with it. I'm saying I don't know. I'm okay with it for the following reason. We went through our own industrial revolution, and the fact of the matter is that when economies are growing, and you can look at a lot of examples. Look at Korea 30 years ago.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Look at China 20 years ago. Look at all these countries who have gained great prosperity and higher standards of living for massive sections of their population. They all started that way. They all started, you know, it's very difficult to grow your country to become an industrial powerhouse. No, I totally understand that, Brian, but it's just weird that we allow people to pay people. Like, essentially, it's not a company in China, or
Starting point is 01:23:34 you know, it's like kind of an American company in a lot of ways. It's a form of slavery. It's a loophole in slavery. It's way cheaper to have like an involuntary slavery network than it is a... Because if you make it involuntary, like, you know, instead of forced slavery, you're paying them so little that they can never leave. You're just basically, instead of providing food for them, you're just basically giving them the money that you would spend if it was real slavery.
Starting point is 01:24:03 You'd have to buy their food and shit. And then you'd have to have guards and you have to pay guards and have the security system. Well, they feed them there, too. I mean, it's real creepy. Yeah, it's a loophole. And you've got to realize that even whoever owns the company, whether it's Chinese people, the American people, the American companies have these big deals with them for a reason. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Because they can take advantage of those loopholes. And that's why they do it. And because their manufacturing tolerances are super high. They really know how to do shit like that at large scale. But there is a lot of pressure from responsible corporate American companies. And they go in there because their shareholders find out about this stuff. And they go in there. And by the way, I would imagine that a lot of people that work at Apple is going to sound really surprising.
Starting point is 01:24:43 And these other companies are pretty ethical and moral and don't. And I'm very familiar with not feeling good about the fact that their company might have a relationship with a Chinese affiliate who doesn't treat their work as well. And in fact, a lot of these corporations like Apple were very, very – and IBM, for example, were instrumental in going in there and saying, hold it. We're not doing business this way. Your environmental practices. I mean, there was a whole article about how IBM, if you do business with IBM, good luck because your vendors, your vendors better be environmentally responsible. IBM has these environmental standards that are just draconian almost for a lot of companies, where it's like, you may be environmentally responsible and you work for us and we're a
Starting point is 01:25:24 big client for you, but how about the people that work for you? How's that draconian, though? Well, it's not draconian. I'm saying that a lot of these corporations have to be responsible. It's progressive. Yeah. Smart in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 01:25:34 And it's smart, and they go, I don't want to do business where people are indentured. No, you're definitely right. You've got to say that. But it's also 100% fact. I believe them. But they are. But hold on. It's still, no matter what you just said that made it look cute, there's still 100% fact
Starting point is 01:25:47 those people make almost nothing. Yes. And that's how you get your laptop made. Yeah. I mean, if you want to break it down to reality. It's the only way. It's just cheaper. You can say whatever you want, but it's the only way.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Do you think, though? Do you think that is it possible that this can turn back around and they can start? I mean, the idea of American manufacturing is like a thing things that have been kicked around back and forth since you know i mean this whole campaign got started essentially right what was a big part of what trump getting into office was bringing back american manufacturing great again we all know the story of detroit we have all seen like how they're oh there's another fucking documentary that they're doing about this guy who's building a farm in detroit the largest farm they're making a huge farm in the middle of detroit they're like knocking down
Starting point is 01:26:30 all these buildings buying up all this land and they're just gonna build an urban farm what were you gonna ask though what was the the question about is it realistic to bring manufacturing jobs back yeah i mean they're doing like this the idea of it the idea of like reigniting the the manufacturing base of the United States and having everything, being American-made, being a big thing. But when it comes to electronics and things like that, is it even possible? So here's the problem. First of all, the reason that we don't pay crazy amounts,
Starting point is 01:26:56 the reason that the consumers get to pay not a lot of money for a flat-screen TV or whatever it might be, the reason prices seem to come down. You can go to Walmart and buy a lot of shit for not as much money. There's efficiency, right? And there's a price for efficiency, of course. But for the most part, if you go to the, if you look at the infrastructure that over 20 years China has built, with those
Starting point is 01:27:16 factories that are so incredibly efficient and clean, and have just unlocked into exactly how to churn out as much product. And you're a company, and your bottom line is you're responsible, for example, if you're a public company, you're responsible to your shareholders to make them as much money, as many dividends as you can. And on top of that turn of profit,
Starting point is 01:27:35 you're going to make your product for as little money as possible. And by the way, it's also going to allow you to bring the price down so your consumers can buy it. Of course. What I'm saying is. With that infrastructure, good luck with the American manufacturing sector trying to compete with the Chinese who have a 20-year head start.
Starting point is 01:27:54 And I think that's a fantasy. Not only is bringing manufacturing jobs back to the U.S. is a fantasy, but more importantly, we're not even using human beings anymore. The real enemy to unemployment is automation. It's not just the 400 million Chinese workers that
Starting point is 01:28:09 showed up over the past 20 years. It's automation. Foxconn CEO says investment for display plant in US would exceed $7 billion. A lot of money. So they have these plants that are already set up in China. Very high standards for tolerances for their manufacturing,
Starting point is 01:28:28 for not just this, but also for clothes and all sorts of things are made. We just had a meeting with this company, and they were saying how they went to American factory, because they're looking to outsource shoes, T-shirts, all this stuff. They went to American factory, and then they went to the, in China, because it's not, China's like the Bentley or Royals Royce of factories. And the one they went to America that produces a lot of our American shit. He said it was awful. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Like there, they wouldn't put up with it. The standards are even close. You wouldn't do business there. So the people that are jumping out of buildings, is that a clean place or a dirty place? Super clean. Once they jump, it's clean because they have to clean up. They jump out of a clean building, Eddie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:04 It's like like come on i mean i know it seems like a fantasy but doesn't it sound like we we should i mean we should try no it'll never happen it'll never happen no we are trying china fuck china let's bring the jobs back here we gotta at least try at least give trump a shot we are we are trying but even trump realizes and everybody realizes that there are some companies that countries that do things more efficiently, right? So, for example, just as a bad example, bananas are easier to grow in the Dominican Republic than they would because of the climate and all that than they would be in Detroit, right? Just because of the weather and stuff. idea behind a global economy, the idea that certain companies do it, certain countries have the infrastructure, have the cheaper labor, and it's easier to churn out more product thereby.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Yeah, but you keep saying cheaper labor like it's no big deal. I'm not saying it's no big deal. But it is. Didn't we just talk about slave labor this whole time? Yeah. It also makes those countries wealthier. How do you defend that? And it raises their standard of living.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Sort of, yeah. Not sort of. No, Brian, settle the fuck down. It does, but it does in a way where you're doing it off the back of the people that are making $5 a week. Of course. Okay, but that's what we keep saying and you keep glossing over it. When I'm trying to explain
Starting point is 01:30:15 why it's a problem to a lot of people that listen to this, you want to gloss over it and Fox News it up. Sir, I don't listen to Fox News. By the way, let's get a couple things straight. Hey, you fuckers. I don't get my news off of CNN or Fox News. Guess who doesn't read, watch? I never watch news. I don't watch news, you
Starting point is 01:30:32 fuckers. Where do you get your news? YouTube? I read different publications and I do a lot of blow. A lot of blow. I do a lot of blow. I'm not glossing over anything. All I'm trying to say is this really simply. I know, but you keep saying it. No, you're not listening. I am definitely listening. What I'm saying is that I understand that...
Starting point is 01:30:47 They got slavery down. They got slavery down. If you go over it one more time, I'm going to freak out myself. Brian, you're being very repetitive. That's why I interrupted you. No, I'm saying the standard of living in those countries has raised exponentially. And we just said that. It's done off the back of these people that are making $5 a week.
Starting point is 01:31:02 It's still slavery. It's still slavery. It's not slavery. It's not slavery. They're jumping out of buildings, Brian. Brian, we can't be cool with that. Brian, it's illegal to make those people work like that in the United States for a fucking reason.
Starting point is 01:31:12 And they're human beings. So if they're human beings in China and they're working in these horrendous conditions under insane hours, they are, Brian. Some are. They live there. You're right. They live in these factories. You're right.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Some factories, you're 100% right. I would never want to work that way. In some factories, it's just a disco. They go in, they give them a drink. Everybody gets a foot massage. I'm not apologizing. I'm not saying. I'm not saying.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Guys, I'm not saying that it's not. You're so Fox News. I am not. Your dad is coming out of your mouth as you're sitting here. I don't listen to Fox News. I'm not saying. I'm with you, Cal. I have nothing against slavery.
Starting point is 01:31:43 No, I'm not saying that I believe in slave labor or that it's not hard work. I like my iPhone. I'm just saying that every country has industrialized the same way. That's all. If their factory was filled with a bunch of hot women from Norway that were sweaty all the time and their breasts were hanging out, we'd be fucking trying to save them. We can't make them work these hours. We just can't do it.
Starting point is 01:32:01 But because it's Chinese people, Brian's like, the economy's really doing great. They like it. They like it. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. The Chinese. This economy's growing. The Chinese are demanding higher wages so they're exporting their jobs to other countries.
Starting point is 01:32:15 At the end of the week, they can buy a Subway sandwich footlong. Maybe. Fuck off. Maybe. I am not saying anything like that. No soda. Stop mischaracterizing me. You're mischaracterizing me.
Starting point is 01:32:24 You can have that little plastic mischaracterizing me. You're mischaracterizing me. You can have that little plastic cup and get some water. How much would an iPhone cost if we built it in the United States? $1,000 million. $1 million. What do you think? They're like $700 now, right? Well, first of all, we literally don't have the kind of factory, so you'd have to build the factory.
Starting point is 01:32:39 You'd have to build this. Six months? So it would cost billions of dollars to build one of those super high-tech factories. Oh, that's too much money. Then on top of that, you would have to hire people. And he falls asleep. That's too much. You'd have to hire people, substantial wage.
Starting point is 01:32:50 But it could be done. It's not an impossible thing. It was done in China. It could be done over here. They can make iPhones here. But it would cost more. It would definitely cost more. Well, just use Mexican.
Starting point is 01:32:57 The price would go up. But don't you think the country should subsidize fucking iPhones instead of corn? Because all these cunts are putting corn and everything, corn syrup and this and that and everybody's getting fat as fuck and people are dying to heart attacks because goddamn corn protein and corn powder. Can I just talk for a second? That'll be okay. All this corn in everything. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Maybe we subsidize cell phones because you need that more than you need fucking corn. Talk to Archer Daniel Midland's lobbying efforts. They're very strong. They'll just talk to me about slaves and how good they are. How important it is. I'm pro-slavery, motherfucker. It's a free country.
Starting point is 01:33:29 I can say what I want. But you know the guys that own these factories in China. You know they're down to, like, they want to assassinate Trump, right? You think so? If he's really going to pull those- Oh, they're not threatened at all. It takes so long to do that. Here's a loophole.
Starting point is 01:33:44 You don't think they're worried about that that here's a loop no one's gonna do it no eddie no one's gonna do it unless look first of all you hear what he was talking about like putting like the taxes on mexico to build the wall and stuff like that all those proposals have to get through congress yeah and this good luck good luck with all that and especially because he doesn't see the thing about running a country is it's very different than running a business there's a bunch of checks and balances. If he's running a business, he's the king. There was this thing that John Oliver had on a show.
Starting point is 01:34:12 We were talking about how he would exaggerate about the amount of floors in his building. You think you're on the 14th floor, but you're really on the 8th floor. Because he would say there's 68 floors. And there are 58. He just does whatever he wants. But it makes it look more exciting. Just a fact check ever. No, but when you're dealing with Congress, that's not going to exciting. Is there a fact check ever? No. But you can't, when you're dealing with Congress,
Starting point is 01:34:26 that's not going to work. Yeah, we're going to need facts. Because when you run, if you run it like that, see, the reason why it's good that there's this bureaucracy in place, bureaucracy in place,
Starting point is 01:34:35 is that if someone isn't with the right or the left, they're on their own, and they want to run this thing, like, I'm going to bring my own security, I'm going to run it, nobody's going to be
Starting point is 01:34:43 on your side. Like, and those people have to be on your side. So then you have to figure out how'm going to run it. Nobody's going to be on your side. Those people have to be on your side. So then you have to figure out how you're going to work with these people to get things on your side, but you have to do it legally. And you're being watched with a microscope. Everybody's looking at everything you do. That's why this guy, the Flynn. What's his name? Flynn?
Starting point is 01:34:57 He got removed today. He had to step down. He had to step down. In a business, what he did would have been, mum, mum, under the table, everybody shut the fuck up. They're doing deals. They're talking to people. You were talking to the Russians. You mischaracterized what you said.
Starting point is 01:35:09 What did he do? We should look it up very specifically. Yeah, pull it up. But what I understand is he had an inappropriate conversation with Russian emissaries about sanctions. We can't have that. Whether or not those sanctions would be eased up under the... Because we have sanctions on Russia because of what they did in Crimea. Please pull that back up so we can read the... National Security Advisor Michael Flynn
Starting point is 01:35:31 resigns and then... You scroll down a little bit there, it says National Security Advisor Michael Flynn has resigned after reports that he misled senior White House officials about his conversations with Russia. The liberals are freaking out right now and screaming into their lattes. Actually, conservatives are. I know. President Trump has named, but the liberals are ready to light shit on fire. They're going to go down to Starbucks and kick the door in.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Retired Army Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg as acting National Security Advisor. Kellogg previously served as Flynn's Chief of Staff. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The embattled Flynn blamed his resignation late Monday on the fast pace of events that led him to inadvertently give Vice President Pence and others incomplete information, in quote, about his phone conversations with Russia's ambassador to the U.S., Sergei Kislyak.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Kislyak. Kislyak. And remember, they probably recorded those conversations. And if he said anything about sanctions being eased up when Trump comes into power, etc., that would be very inappropriate. I have sincerely apologized to the president and the vice president, and they have accepted my apology, Flynn wrote in his resignation letter. Wow. This is weird, man. Really weird.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Look at this. Pence had defended Flynn's contact with Russia, and when it became clear the National Security Advisor had not been forthcoming, serious questions were raised about his ability to keep the job. This is fucking House of Cards. Like, House of Cards is real. Especially since Russia, according to both sides of the aisle,
Starting point is 01:36:59 was probably involved in hacking. Don't say that. You keep saying hacking, because they didn't do anything that actually affected the election. They might have done something that affected people's perceptions and might have affected the way they vote. That's not hacking. But what they did was never disputed. Like when the information they pulled up,
Starting point is 01:37:19 no one's ever saying it's fake. They're saying it's true. So what they did where they showed that Hillary was rigging the primaries against Bernie Sanders, to say that that influenced the election, yes, it did. But it influenced it because what they did was dirty as fuck and business as usual. And then people got a chance to look at it. Well, they also know that Russian agents or it's alleged that Russian agents hacked into certain DNC computers.
Starting point is 01:37:42 So high-level Democrats, that's all. And made those emails public. I don't know if there is proof, but the bottom line is even if they did do it, what they released is something that we should know about. Because we should know that the Democratic Party is against one of the most popular people of the Democratic Party that just wasn't playing ball. That's Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders is a guy who's legitimately altruistic.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Like seems like it. Seems like a guy who's legitimately altruistic. Like, seems like it. Seems like a guy who's legitimately not controlled by money. Seems like a guy who's legitimately looking maybe even misguided by some economics, economist standards. Maybe even misguided. But the idea that he's trying to change the income inequality in this country in some way, shape, or form. At the very least, he's opening up the dialogue about it. And the Hillies and all the other people are fucking hitting the brakes on that shit. And we found out about it.
Starting point is 01:38:29 So we found out about the crazy bureaucracy. We found out about Hillary talking about marijuana and saying that she's against it in every sense of the word. Marijuana legalization. She's helping people who are spending money because they're going to make money if pot is illegal. So she's essentially making it okay for cops, for jackbooted thugs to lock people up in a fucking cage over pot. Are you saying she's corrupt?
Starting point is 01:38:52 She's not just corrupt. That's a monster. A person who would say that she's against marijuana legalization in every sense of the word, that person is an enemy of history. That person is an enemy of history like you're a selfish monster who's willing to do something completely irrational Just for personal gain. That's it. That's that's been a knock on Hillary from day one And there's a whole paper trail that was so scary of their corruption And people don't think it's scary because it's pot and pot sounds silly, but it's not about pot. It's about freedom It's about you doing something
Starting point is 01:39:25 that doesn't hurt anybody else and someone deciding that they can lock you in a cage because they write some things down on paper and it's no different if she wants to do that than if someone in this room wants to lock one of us up like the five of us got together and one of us wanted to lock one of us up because one of us is smoking pot. It's that fucking stupid. It's really that stupid. It's an insane, insane law. And the fact that she was totally down to keep that law going in every sense of the word. That's an insane person.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Yeah, bro. Well, it's not just that. Her Clinton Foundation was a paper flight. Look up what's gone now, right? Isn't it deteriorating? What a surprise that it folded up. How amazing that she no longer has any influence in government. And all of a sudden, all those donations folded up. How amazing that she no longer has any influence in government. And all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:40:05 all those donations folded up. What a surprise. I thought it was an altruistic organization, but now that they can't grant anybody favors. All you have to do, don't look this up now, but if you're listening, Uranium One Deal,
Starting point is 01:40:17 Whitewater, and Travelgate. Just remember those three things and look up how corrupt the Clintons were. This is why a lot of people have a problem with the ideologues on the left, because they won't acknowledge that. So everybody that sees that and sees the deep, deep, deep, just integrated corruption, that it's just almost inoperable corruption. That's right. They see that, and they don't want to admit it because they say Trump is bad.
Starting point is 01:40:42 And if you talk about it, they say Trump is bad. And they have valid concerns about Trump. But that doesn't negate all the problems with her. It just doesn't. Trump was elected because the Democrats decided to nominate somebody who, in 2008, the Democratic voters already told you they didn't like. They didn't trust. Women didn't trust her. Not just men.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Women didn't trust her. So at the end of the day, you guys, you know, the Democrats put up a candidate that people didn't trust. They women didn't trust her so at the end of the day you guys you know the democrats put up a candidate that people didn't trust they just didn't she just had any time she talked anytime a word came out of her mouth i didn't believe anything she's just the most insincere bad actress out there like her husband he was man he was believable you wanted to believe bill clinton but he was he was just better at lying. But she's terrible at lying, right? Is she terrible?
Starting point is 01:41:29 Do you believe anything she says? I can't believe we're still talking about it. It's hard to imagine that the system is so fucked up that it's missing key players so badly that someone that flawed could get to a position where the country has to choose whether or not this insanely flawed person gets to run the country like that's crazy there's intelligent many people ambitious energetic and all these smart people don't want to run right exactly and that's the problem yeah and rightly so why would you want that shitty job why would you want this job because i'm pro-slavery yes you can't do what you used to be able to do with that job. That job was a good job when you were JFK. It's not a good job when you're fucking Obama.
Starting point is 01:42:08 It's not a good job. It's stressful now. You're dying out there. See, Obama's just having the time of his life now. Party. How much weed does he smoke every week? Oh, non-stop. Does he eat edibles and thinks about drones? Didn't he stop smoking in the middle of his presidency? No, before I thought.
Starting point is 01:42:24 I'll ask you again. Do you think he eats edibles and thinks about drones? That's my president. I'm not going to answer that question. It's not your president. Oh, not anymore. Yes. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Donald Trump's your president. Biatch? That's true. No, did you see that girl who got tattooed on her side? I put it up on my Instagram. She got it tattooed on her side. Trump is not my fucking president. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Whoa. You live in America, bitch. That's your president. But how deep is that? Imagine going down on her You pull her shirt off And you're like So intense
Starting point is 01:42:49 I like all that though That's what makes our democracy vibrant Disagreement Stop saying that Trump Is not my fucking president tattoo On someone's side Makes our democracy vibrant Because that's not correct
Starting point is 01:42:59 Freedom of speech sir But writing that on your body forever That's crazy Because in four years They're going to be like Yeah Mike Needle Last night During While Donald Trump was running But writing that on your body forever, that's crazy. Because in four years, they're like, yeah, Mike Neidland. Last night, while Donald Trump was running for the Republican nomination, I really didn't pay that much attention to him. I heard crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:43:15 He always said crazy shit about Mexicans. He said this and that. And I'm like, damn, he sounds like a crazy man. Didn't really pay attention. But when he won the nomination and he was going against Hillary, I started to pay attention. But then you always hear about shit he said in the past, although I never heard it. But when he was running against Hillary and they were debating, I agreed with him. To me, he just seemed like an honest shit talker.
Starting point is 01:43:38 That's what he seemed like, an honest shit talker. Not politically correct. He's saying some abrasive shit, but he's being honest. And Hillary wasn't being honest at all. So last night, I went back and I said, you know what? People keep saying all this shit that Donald Trump said. I go, let me, I went to YouTube, sorry. The library was closed, but I went to YouTube and I punched in Donald Trump's worst quotes.
Starting point is 01:43:58 And like the worst of Donald Trump. And I smoked a bowl. And I'm like, let me fucking find out what the fuck he's saying. And he talks shit, but I agreed with most. I didn't really think anything was bad. I was like, is this a pro Donald Trump video? Yeah. Because people always hear that he said the worst shit.
Starting point is 01:44:20 Like, he's saying shit about Mexicans. What is he saying? Is he calling them wetbacks? What is he saying? No, they exaggerate everything. They exaggerate and I think a lot of the Hitler now and I'm like, wait a minute. I went back and I swear to God I had a check cuz I was just going through video I don't get it pro Trump or against Trump. This is his worst shit to me. Sounds like a like a boss You know, he's a boss
Starting point is 01:44:42 He's not in the guy then I went back and watched the shit he was saying while he was running against Ted Cruz and Rubio. Those guys seem like they're hypnotized. They're like MKUltra. No, we know what they're going to say. They're like robots. They're awful as shit. They're all robots.
Starting point is 01:44:58 They're the worst. Yeah, I never had a problem with Trump of what he said. My problem with Trump is that he doesn't. Yeah, he's totally real. Yeah. never had a problem with Trump of what he said. I like that he's real. He's totally real. My worry about Trump is that he's I think he's very, very narcissistic, but I also think he doesn't seem that informed or that interested in
Starting point is 01:45:13 knowing what he doesn't know. That was always my worry. That's why you surround yourself with some bees. It could be a double cross. I'm not sold on Trump, but the one thing is Thank God he's not drunk. Hey, you went to the bathroom I haven't seen you do that in a long time Yeah man I've been here for a while
Starting point is 01:45:27 I had to get here for a meeting an hour early So I've been drinking I might hit my wall I was just happy that Hillary didn't win That could have been anybody on the other side All the shit on Hillary And the people that run her shit That's too dark for me
Starting point is 01:45:42 I don't want that to keep going She could have been running against Bozo the Clown. I would have been Bozo, Bozo, Bozo. That's what a lot of people did. There's two things that are good about having someone like Trump in office. One thing is that people are going to get energized now and they realize that voting works and there's real
Starting point is 01:45:57 consequences to not voting and the person that you maybe didn't want. And then also we have to re-examine our electoral college system that was created back when people couldn't fucking communicate with their representatives. You couldn't get to Washington. You couldn't just vote instantaneously on your email or your computer. 100% should be a way that you vote online. Just your email.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Make it easy. That's your email. No, that's not good because you have a social security number. Everybody has one. That's what you should be able to enter. You should be able to enter into an app that everybody gets. You have a photo. You stand there. It takes a photo of you. It takes your fingerprint like it does when you order something with Apple Pay or some shit and vote.
Starting point is 01:46:36 It's not hard to do. They can do it. They just don't want to invest any time. It's way easier to control controlled groups of people. As soon as you have everybody that's over 18 having access to vote instantaneously with their phone, you're going to get a very different result. And you're going to get people like Justin Bieber becoming president. Like, really?
Starting point is 01:46:54 Like, you got to understand, like, we have a popularity contest. That's what being the president is. It's fucking ridiculous. If you look at the amount of people that are on Instagram or on Twitter, like people that have like 49 million followers, at any given time, one of those motherfuckers can string together some really good sentences and be like, George Clooney for
Starting point is 01:47:12 president! We'll fucking do it. We don't even care if you're good at it. Katy Perry would be like, she's so powerful and so amazing, I know she can do it. Lady Gaga could be the fucking president of the United States. Mark my words. She was on the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:47:27 She said she was a- God. We have 109 million. Selena Gomez. How many she got? 109 million. 109 million. Okay. Selena Gomez could be president.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I'll vote for her right now. I don't even know who she is. She's dating the weekend. That's how I'm so lost. I'm so out of the loop. Bieber's former ex. The problem you have to solve with the electoral college is that if you do it just by popular vote like that, then that's one issue with it, but also
Starting point is 01:47:47 the fact that states that are not very populated would get ignored by the government. That's what it should be. They wouldn't matter. They would definitely get ignored when it comes to passing bills that help them or getting funding or subsidies, but also maybe they'd have to
Starting point is 01:48:03 stop growing fucking corn and putting it in everything. And get with the times. Everybody's dying from corn, Brian. Corn! There's hope in you, man. Corn-fed cuts. You turned on Hillary. I like that.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Oh, yeah. I never liked Hillary, but it sparked that. I was under the impression that you were pro-Hillary. Let's be honest. I'm a libertarian, brother. I'm a pretty conservative guy. But there was no good choices. There was no good choices.
Starting point is 01:48:25 No. I couldn't. conservative guy. But there was no good choices. There was no good choices. No. I couldn't. Nobody wants to do it. Hey, but I'm down to give Trump a chance to turn the economy around. You have no other choice, Eddie. He might. He might. There's a lot of progress.
Starting point is 01:48:34 I'm not going to go after him, but I'm not sold on Trump. But I like what he's saying. I like that he's honest. He's definitely, he never said, he never called Mexicans wetbacks Or anything like that He just said He said the same shit Bill Clinton said about immigration In more of a
Starting point is 01:48:51 Abrasive way That's all He was more abrasive about it But Bill Clinton He said all the same shit That people are upset about Trump He got his dick sucked in the White House That's not a big deal man
Starting point is 01:49:00 That's not a big deal Whoa I celebrate that Let him go I'm a Bill Clinton fan And what about JFK? JFK had an affair with Marilyn Monroe while he was married. Dude, JFK? The best dress president of all time, too?
Starting point is 01:49:12 He had 11 affairs during his presidency. Oh, he was a beast. Although, that could be bullshit. That could be disinformation. Oh, no, it's Will's documentary. But here's my question. Maybe they were trying to smear him. Here's my question.
Starting point is 01:49:22 He had chlamydia. Should Donald Trump, if anything positive happens from this, it's going to inspire other people that are unconventional type candidates to run that might be better or more likable. Nah, two-time Trump. Two-time Trump? Two-time Trump. You think so? If the economy is doing well, he'll get another shot. If it's not.
Starting point is 01:49:41 You know what I like about Trump is the CIA is so against him. Like John O'Brennan, the director. He's the director of the CIA. He's publicly against him. Then it's a good thing. He's not the director of the CIA anymore, Brian? There's something good about Trump. The fat guy's against him.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Pompeo, I believe. What happened with this fellow that used to be the head of it? The head of the CIA is appointed by the president. It's a civilian appointment. John O'Brennan right now. You're usually a civilian who runs the CIA and you're appointed by the incoming president. Eddie says John O'Brennan.
Starting point is 01:50:12 John O'Brennan's the director right now. I believe it's Pompeo, isn't it? He was. He was Obama's director. Oh, they switched it up? Okay, he's out. So he was Obama's director and he doesn't like the president
Starting point is 01:50:23 because obviously Obama didn't like the president. Oh, he's going against him publicly. Because obviously Obama didn't like the president. Publicly. You could punch that up. But Trump appoints the head of the CIA. So he has his boy now. He decides who. I'm not sure if he does.
Starting point is 01:50:33 You think he does? Well, he just said. He just read it and said it. And Halpern, the deputy director, was under investigation for running black sites. So, you know, if you want to talk about a controversial undersecretary, Halpern, is it Valerie Halpern? She is, she was an operative who ran a lot of the extraordinary rendition sites.
Starting point is 01:50:52 The black sites where detainees under American supervision were tortured. She ran that. She was there. She was brought up with the Senate Arms, the Intelligence Committee, and questioned. What do you think it's like to bang a chick who runs a torture
Starting point is 01:51:08 operation? You better go hard in the paint. I tried to look for pictures. I couldn't find pictures. You better go hard in the fucking paint. Hard in the paint. You better go hard in the paint. She probably likes... Chains, whips. She's a controversial character, man. Some guys are into that, but I'm not into any kind of pain. I'm way too lazy for that. No pain.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Don't scratch me. Don't bite me. Don't scratch me. No biting. Don't bite my lip. I'm not into any kind of pain. I'm way too lazy for that. No pain. I'm not going to be tied up. Don't scratch me. Don't bite me. Don't scratch me. No biting. Don't bite my lip. I'm not going to choke you out. I can't punch you. I don't like it. There's 50 shades of gray that's got people confused as fuck.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Some guys are into that. You know what happens? There's still 50 shades of brown. That's from working in a fucking office. That's what that shit's from. Correct. Yeah. Being suppressed, working in that cubicle, constantly worried about human resources.
Starting point is 01:51:42 You get out of there, you want some bitch to tie you up and shit in your mouth. That's what happens. You get crazy. Really? Is that what it is constantly worried about human resources. You get out of there, you want some bitch to tie you up and shit in your mouth. That's what true is. You get crazy. Really, is that what it is? You get fucking crazy. I told you I dated a dominatrix, right, in New York. Was it crazy? Dude, she brought me to her quote-unquote dungeon,
Starting point is 01:51:55 which was really a fancy apartment. Oh, you put on a gimp suit? No, she liked it. I was kind of dominant, because I don't know if you guys know I'm an alpha male. But she had a chair. Did I tell you this? Did I tell you this?
Starting point is 01:52:03 She had a chair, yeah, where you could tie your balls. Yeah, go ahead. You'd sit in a chair and there was a hole in the chair. And your balls and cock would hang between the chair. Oh, I bet you're monsters. And she would put a ring at the base of where your cock and your balls meet. And then you'd be chained to the floor. And then she'd do whatever the fuck she wanted.
Starting point is 01:52:22 What did she do? She said that her biggest clientele were all lawyers. Mostly lawyers. There was something about lawyers that liked to be dominated. Did she kick you in the balls, B? I didn't do that. I'm not into that. There's a lot of those gals. She just brought me there. Oh, I thought you did it. Some guys are into that. I'm not into it.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Have you seen those videos? Brian said maybe this girl just, hey kid, hey kid, hey kid. Right? The balls. Yeah, what's up with that? Guys, when I worked at the strip club as a DJ, there was guys that would come in and they would sit in the lap dance booth and want the girls to knee them in the balls. What the fuck is wrong with them? It's awesome.
Starting point is 01:52:55 That makes me feel sick. One a year. Every year, one dude would come. Just a freak. Sure. Well, some guys like to be cut. They like to be electrocuted. They like to feel.
Starting point is 01:53:04 I think there's also some real scientific inquiry into this, and they think that some people feel pain differently, which makes sense. The wires get crossed, right? Yeah, look, if you could be born with something wrong with your body, right? If you could be born with some sort of a birth defect, why can't you be born with some sort of a defect in the way your body senses pain? We're just assuming, like, you know, I don't like pain. You don't like pain.
Starting point is 01:53:29 You're like, fuck, pain must be awful to everybody. I think some people are numb, and pain gives them, like, a vital shot in the arm to let them know they're still alive. That's why people, a lot of depressed people like tattoos. Oops, what was I saying? Yeah. According to Richard Walter, who's a big-time profiler for sadism, he's the guy who wrote the double helix, basically, on serial killers and how a serial killer becomes, you know.
Starting point is 01:53:51 And he solves a lot of these cold cases, but he's an FBI profiler who deals with the worst cases, like the real sadists. And he said that it's always... So there's certain people that get off on the act of killing, right? And in fact, they'll almost kill you, then bring you back to life. They're real sick fuckers. But he said all of those people, including cannibals and things, they all are getting a sexual charge out of whatever it is they do. So, Cyril, regardless, it's power over the person.
Starting point is 01:54:22 But according to him, there's always a sexual drive for it. That's so weird. Yeah, like the one guy who they found, he was a cannibal. And he finally killed his two wives and they caught him because he just would do all these terrible things. But he couldn't feel. When they found him, he had hat pins. I think this was in the 40s, 50s. He had hat pins in his ass and his balls.
Starting point is 01:54:46 He had pins in his balls and hat pins stuffed in his ass. And he was walking around, and he said that basically he had trouble feeling anything. Anything. And so he would stick these needles in his balls, and they found him with... They were like, wait, why do you kill and eat people? You torture people. Let's start with your mother. Well, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:55:05 You got hat pins in your asshole. Did you hear about the guy in Canada? And pins in your balls. Did you hear about the guy in Canada that had a mental episode on a bus? And he brought a knife with him in bags, like plastic bags. Killed this guy. Cut his head off with a knife. And then ate his eyeballs on the bus.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Beheaded a guy on a crowded bus. People were on the bus. They were sleeping. It was late at night. Cut this guy's fucking head off. Ate his eyes. They deemed him mentally ill. They gave him medication and they just released him.
Starting point is 01:55:32 What? Hello, Canada. What part of Canada? Windsor? Can't do shows there. Was it Windsor, Ontario? Where was it? Where was it?
Starting point is 01:55:41 It says Manitoba. Manitoba, sorry. No one woke up? Manitoba. I don't know if people woke up or not, but there was cops that were outside while the guy was already dead and he was eating them. Oh, my God. And first responders that wound up committing suicide, apparently. See if that's true.
Starting point is 01:55:55 That's what I had read, that it was such a gruesome, horrific scene that some first responders committed suicide. But people, like, I got in, like, debate with people online about this. They're like, look, he had a psychotic episode. As long as he takes his medication, he'll be fine. Fuck that. And I was like, well, even if that's the case, the fact that someone could ever, in their existence, in their time, in their consciousness on Earth, be capable of sawing
Starting point is 01:56:18 someone's head off with a knife and then eating their eyeballs on a bus, you can't ever let them out of your sight. Obviously. We gotta lock you up. Because he never did that until he did it once. Yeah. He never did that until he did it once, and then he did it once. Now you know he can do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:30 So for you to let him go, I don't care what you say about mental illness. That is so irresponsible. It's seriously irresponsible as fuck. And he might have a relapse. We don't know how he's going to react to the medication. It never happened before, then it happened, which means it can happen. I feel the same way about pedophiles. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:44 If you rape the child, and you go through all the therapy in the world, I don't care. I can't let you out. Canadians are so fucking nice. They're too nice. That's what it is. They're the nicest people. The guy salts his head off, ate the eyeballs and he's back on the street.
Starting point is 01:56:58 That's crazy. He didn't know any better. God, that's nuts. He feels bad. He feels super bad. Oh my God. My bad. They're the nice, Canadians are the nicest people I've ever come across. I think they bad. My bad. Canadians are the nicest people
Starting point is 01:57:05 I've ever come across. I think they're the nicest nation. They're amazing. They're so fucking nice. And that's how something like that flies over there. They have a social justice warrior president or prime minister. Trudeau? He's hilarious. He wanted all the refugees.
Starting point is 01:57:22 Gad Saad? Do you know Gad? Yeah, I know Gad. He lives up there in Montreal. He's a professor in Montreal. And he just highlights all the refugees. Gad Saad? Do you know Gad? Yeah, I know Gad. Yeah, well, Gad has been, you know, he lives up there in Montreal. He's a professor in Montreal. And he just highlights all the ridiculous policies that this guy keeps promoting and the stuff that he gets behind. And the things that he says. I mean, what they're doing up there is, like, it's really strange. You can get arrested if you say things about certain people.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Like, they don't have freedom of speech the way we have it. If you say things about certain people, like they don't have freedom of speech the way we have it. They have like these human rights councils that decide whether or not you should be able to do shit. So if you get heckled by some lesbians, you call them a dirty dyke and say, go eat her asshole, you dirty bitch, or say something crazy like that. You can get arrested and then sued and lose. And that happened in Vancouver. Jesus Christ. There's law. They have crazy laws
Starting point is 01:58:05 as far as like using gender pronouns. There's a large pushback to that in Canada too. Jordan Peterson's a big part of that pushback. Without him, a lot of that would have just been swallowed up by the academics. He's one of the first academics to stand up and go hey guys, this is fucking crazy
Starting point is 01:58:22 and this is just controlling people. And when you start controlling people like this, it goes down this dirty road. And this dirty road is a dictator. And this dirty road is like ideologies and dominating your patterns of speech and the whole marketplace of free ideas. According to somebody else's agenda.
Starting point is 01:58:37 According to the agenda of equality, that great fuzzy utopia in the sky. And if you listen to Jordan Peterson, he knows so much about Marxism that it's, it shows you like, Oh, this is a pattern of human thinking. It starts off by people that were really like well intentioned.
Starting point is 01:58:52 They're intellectuals. They're very kind. They're sympathetic. They're progressive. And they want everyone to be nice. So one of the ways they do it is to be really evil to people they think are not nice. That's right.
Starting point is 01:59:03 And then you create this fucking war. Cause they look at them as predators. Yeah. And that's that sort of like infantile... But the problem is the people on the other side don't look at it that way. Right. So you're starting this thing and you're creating two shored up defenses and walls of offense. You start, you
Starting point is 01:59:19 push in, you start Molotov cocktail and universities that are given speeches by guys who are Republicans. You create that UC Berkeley thing. Yeah, what happened with Milo? I didn't... Yeah, pulled him out of the fucking building to save his life. People are rioting outside the building. They did $100,000 worth of damage to the school.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Forward thinking. I thought Berkeley was so tolerant. What a surprise. As long as you don't agree with them. Dude, when we were in Portland, Milo was there and someone got shot at his thing. Yes. Somebody got shot in the stomach right by us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:47 No, it's crazy. And if you listen to what he's saying. He's saying some racist shit, right? Not nothing compared to the reaction that it's getting. Nothing. He's mostly half of a troll. He's like half of a comedian. When he says things, he's bitchy.
Starting point is 02:00:01 He's a bitchy gay guy. They're calling him a Nazi and he's a fucking gay Jew. It is one of the funniest things guy. They're calling him a Nazi, and he's a fucking gay Jew. It is one of the funniest things ever. They're calling this guy a Nazi and a white supremacist. What's the slogan of his tour, though? It's intense. Dangerous Faggot Tour. But he's gay.
Starting point is 02:00:15 He's gay, and he talks about his love of black dick. Is he a comedian? No. He's a writer and a troll. But like an intelligent troll and a British guy who's got people on. If you look at what he actually said. Yeah, and they said it was because he said rude, racist shit or organized some sort of an attack on Leslie Jones. But he didn't do it.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Like, if you look at what he said, how responsible is someone who cracks a joke about someone? Like, he said something about Leslie Jones. Wouldn't be the first time I was turned down by a black man. Like, something along those lines. Like, bitchy, but funny. And for that, just for that, for saying that, because she was mad at his review or something along those lines. No, I thought his followers started sending her horrible comments. Maybe, but how much of that can you push onto him?
Starting point is 02:01:03 Yeah, you can't control that. You can't control it. I'm not advocating what he said. What I'm saying is if you look at what he actually said, if that's grounds for a ban, we're dealing with some extreme censorship. So you've got to figure out when is he responsible? Did he say, hey guys, go get him? No, he didn't. But you know who did do that
Starting point is 02:01:19 is Leslie Jones. There was a tweet where Leslie Jones, someone was attacking her and she was like, go get him. To that person. Which is like, look, that's her prerogative too. If you want to be a cunt and start attacking this woman who's a very hilarious comedian for no reason, I think she should be able to say, fuck you
Starting point is 02:01:36 and do it publicly and say, go get him to her fans. But here's the point. Milo never said that. Milo literally never said, go get him. But yet he was sort of held responsible for things that other people said. There's so many crazy people out there. The idea that you can control them and you can just say, people who like Brian Callen, you are responsible for those people.
Starting point is 02:01:57 You have to set a good example or we're going to kick you off our platform. That's essentially what they're saying. That's crazy. It's weird. It's their prerogative, though. Pull up what he actually said. I also think it's interesting that you're not going to change. We always have to remember that if you disagree with the other side,
Starting point is 02:02:12 the idea is to try to get them to agree with you or try to come up with some kind of a consensus so you can move ideas forward and move the world forward. And what we have with this kind of reaction to Milo is if you're going to do $100,000 worth of damage in your protest well that's fine and milo will have to be escorted out and you won't listen to him and you close your mind you're not moving anything forward or making anything better though you're just creating a big old division and i guess you guys can stay in your echo chamber they'll stay in their echo chamber and nobody will listen to each other and we won't
Starting point is 02:02:41 learn anything well it's this is the product of being raised in this system this two-party system and this ridiculous idea that there's us and them and now that they're in there's this you know all people have to fight back and you have to punch nazis so this crazy shit that people are saying but when you listen to what milo actually says even if you disagree with him which i do all the time like i disagree with a lot of what he's saying. Sam Harris put it best. He's like, half of it is like a performance. It's like he seems insincere a lot of the times, and he's very acutely aware that he's generating a response.
Starting point is 02:03:14 And the things that he's saying, they're saying that he's racist or he's this terrible white nationalist or something. They're just making stuff up so that they can start attacking him more freely because it's easier what he said is definitely controversial controversial he said is some of it is definitely rude some of it is preposterous some of it doesn't make any sense like he's he's pro circumcision because he doesn't want dicks to have extra skin
Starting point is 02:03:38 hanging off of him he says he'll fight with you about it you know he's he's he's a catholic i think he is i'm like okay that's funny you believe that he's like absolutely catholicism is the best religion it's the most amazing religion i'm super like he's crazy okay so he started making fun of jones and we wrote an article first of all let's say one thing that he wrote an article uh where he did a horrible like a mean critique of the new ghostbusters for women and he said essentially that it was like a feminist film. And he pointed out some really important shit. He's like, every guy in the movie is a fucking idiot. And every woman saves
Starting point is 02:04:10 the world. And he's like, it's kind of ridiculous. So he says, he writes this. So she was getting hate mail from his response, I guess, from his thing. Racial abuse that she was getting. And he said, everyone gets hate mail for fuck's sake. One tweet read,
Starting point is 02:04:26 another one called Jones barely literate. Later, she shared fake screenshots. Oh, he shared fake screenshots that made it appear of Jones were making profane and offensive postings. Twitter didn't say exactly why it banned Yiannopoulos, only telling Breitbart writer that he was permanently banned for violation of the company's rules, prohibiting participation in or exciting targeted abuse of individuals. So what makes that, like, okay, I could see, like, if he was retweeting things that were very rude, I would have to see what those things were. Probably pretty rude. See how rude they were or maybe they were silly.
Starting point is 02:05:02 Yeah, let's see the tweets. They were bad. Can we see the actual tweets? Yeah, they were bad. Did you see them? They were crazy racist. They were awful. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:05:08 Make it appear that it was Jones. Click on that link there, Jamie. Scroll back down. See where it says it made it appear if Jones were making profane and offensive postings? Click on that. Let's see what it looks like, what was actually said. This was not me. Okay, okay. like what what was actually said this was not me okay okay uncle tom fagnero needs to get his racist
Starting point is 02:05:27 ass out my mentions shit like this makes me think we need to gas these goddamn faggots to death okay so it's not really her that's fake yeah somebody made a fake that's kind of fucked up to do to leslie jones terrible well how do we know okay got to assume that he knew that that wasn't him, right? She posted one that he posted, right? But hold on, hold on, hold on. We got to assume that, go back to that again, Jamie. You got to assume that he knew that that wasn't really her, right? You don't think that he really thought she wrote that.
Starting point is 02:05:57 So if he retweets that, if that's a fake account, what's the difference? Okay, so it's just a photo that someone put up. Oh, did he make it or did he? Someone else did it and he retweeted it. Yeah. He retweeted it, I guess. Okay, so it's of just a photo. Did he make it or did he someone else did it? Yeah, he retweeted it I guess Okay, so let's see what the other ones are. Although it says it looks like it's verified as a les dog So did he retweet this someone sent it to him and he he retweeted it. Okay, here's one les dog Your Ghostbusters isn't the first to have an ape in it. Oh shit. That is super racist. Whoa
Starting point is 02:06:24 So he retweeted so he retweeted that he retweeted that okay yeah that's not cool that's pretty fucking rude that's okay what else we got that's that's that's that's just shitty man that makes me not like just that makes me want to well listen he's definitely got some issues he's lashing back he's got some fucking issues okay we're good we get it we get it well that's he's definitely got some fucking issues. Okay. We're good. We get it. He's a dick. Well, he's definitely got some issues. That's not a cool thing to do. But what he's doing, he incites talk. And because of that, his book is now number one on the Amazon bestseller list.
Starting point is 02:06:55 What's he trying to accomplish? What's his goal? What's the book about? Pre-sale. No one knows. The book's not even out yet. Yeah. He's a really interesting guy in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 02:07:04 He's very smart. I talked to him off air. He's a very intelligent guy. He's a really interesting guy in a lot of ways. He's very smart. I talked to him off air. He's a very intelligent guy. He's very cordial, very good to talk to. I really enjoy talking to him. And we joked around a lot when we did the podcast together
Starting point is 02:07:13 because I grilled him about certain things that I think are ridiculous and eventually he gives in and starts laughing with you. He's a very smart guy, but I don't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 02:07:21 I don't know if this is a real, is the real him or if this is him doing a performance or if it's a combination of both, or if he's finding himself in the midst of this hurricane of negativity and popularity, which would be just assuming that he's bulletproof, that he can't be influenced by this fucking crazy ordeal that he's going through and occasionally do shit that he shouldn't have done,
Starting point is 02:07:38 like reposting some horrible racist thing. He's young. I mean, he's maybe 30 something, right? How old is Milo? You made a point. That's a really interesting point you just said, made about if this is like in transition, horrible racist thing he's young i mean he's maybe 30 something right how old is yeah you know you made a point that's a really interesting point you just said that made about if this is like
Starting point is 02:07:48 in transition like so sure he is he's growing just like all of us are and even like it depends on you know you can catch somebody in in a moment where they can sound if you they can sound not like themselves so oh he's young yeah he's 33 fucking smart dude i'm telling you i believe it i just feel like yeah i definitely disagree with retweeting that racist picture of Leslie Jones looking like a gorilla. This one guy who said something, he was at the, what was the theater in France that they shot up during a performance? He was in the band, I believe. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, so remember when those guys opened fire from the stage?
Starting point is 02:08:21 Oh, at the live concert. Yeah, the live concert. Death Metal. Famous, famous. Yeah, Death Metal. Whatever. fire from the stage the live concert yeah death metal famous famous yeah death metal whatever and he said something about uh islam right after that he was like he's and he was emotional and people had died and it was his concert and he saw some all kinds of stuff and he said something that uh they picked up and he did an interview because they just did a documentary on it and he said something really interesting they said you said something about Islam.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Do you have any regret about that? And it was pretty racist. And he said, all right, well, look, first of all, I love people. We have a lot of Muslim fans and everything else. He said, what happened there was my emotions were so heightened. a span of time where I was thinking in a very emotional, uncharacteristic way that I usually am. I was hot off of something tragic and I didn't even know how to make sense of it. I don't want you to reread what I said because that's not who I am. But in that sliver of time, that's how I was feeling and I lashed out in pain it's a very
Starting point is 02:09:26 honest way of putting it it is and I thought that's that's why we have to be careful about taking quotes and then applying that to a person's entire character which we do all the fucking time no no this was a guy in the band after he he said something about his but but it made me think about that we do this all the time where we say you said that one thing you said a sentence let's let's highlight that and let's just say that's who the man is. You gotta be a little careful with that. Sometimes you gotta be held accountable for what you're tweeting.
Starting point is 02:09:51 We can't always give everyone a pass. He's just going through a rough time. It's all good. You gotta be held accountable to that. That's true too. We also have to recognize that at 33 years of age especially, dude, I was a moron when I was 33. And if I had gotten drunk and I decided to retweet some shit, thank God Twitter wasn't around then.
Starting point is 02:10:10 I would have said the stupidest shit. 33 is not that young. And if he's a smart guy. Yes, it is. You say stupid shit all the time. How about you? I say stupid shit. I've never retweeted anything racist.
Starting point is 02:10:18 I'm 33. No, you're not racist. No, not at all. But with him, this is a pattern. Maybe. You don't get a free pass for being 33. Here's the thing, man. His whole thing is courting controversy.
Starting point is 02:10:30 That's essentially what he's doing. By saying feminism is cancer, he's organizing a fist fight. He's calling them out, and he's organizing a verbal fist fight, and he's probably on Adderall, so he's talking 100 miles an hour. He's really articulate, and he's gay, and he looks fabulous. And he's got bleach blonde hair, and he wears weird clothes. And when he's killing it miles an hour. He's really articulate, and he's gay, and he looks fabulous.
Starting point is 02:10:45 And he's got bleach blonde hair, and he wears weird clothes. And when he's killing it, like on stage, he's a very good orator. So he's engaging them in these debates that he's got carefully thought out responses, carefully thought out sentences about— So he knows what he's doing. He definitely knows what he's doing. There you go. He definitely knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 02:11:01 He's fucking smart as shit. He's got a free pass. How was your conversation with Henry Rollins, speaking of articulate? He's getting a little pointy with this racism thing. Look at him. There he go. He definitely knows How is your conversation with Henry Rollins speaking of articulate getting a little pointy with this racism thing I love that he's a good-looking guy handsome fellow hell. Yeah, it's hands profound love of black dick He talks about all the time He just loves also one more way that they have a hard time attacking him because he's a gay Jew that loves black dick like he's got the spectrum covered. There's a triangle of invincibility that's around him.
Starting point is 02:11:29 Brian's not. These are good. That's what you're talking. It's the one time Brian's not talking. Yeah, I was waiting for Brian to go off. Oh, man. Have I been happy on this podcast? No, you're alright.
Starting point is 02:11:42 This is what fascism is. You can't enforce your view of the world on people through violence because that's what you're doing when you're a fascist. And that's what people need to understand. You can't just use the word fascist when it applies to right-wing people. If you're keeping people from communicating, if you're keeping a gay Jew from talking shit on your stage, and you can't just counter what he's saying with someone who's better at talking shit that has better points so instead you want to throw a chair through the window at fucking starbucks look stop you guys are fascists i know you don't think you're fascist even if you think you're right the way you're doing it is 100 wrong this isn't the guy's not a nazi he's not someone who's
Starting point is 02:12:18 even if he's said a racist thing in the past he's not the first every fucking comedian has said racist shit let's dog herself had a has said racist shit. Let's Dog herself had a bunch of racist shit they pulled off of her Twitter page. We don't hate her for that. She had a bunch of shit about white people, just generalizing about white people in general. If you ever did that about black people, you would get blackballed from
Starting point is 02:12:38 Hollywood for life. But we allow a certain amount of stupid shit to come out of people's mouths if we think that you're not a bad person yeah and if you disagree if you disagree with somebody the way you beat it let's say it again the way you beat a bad idea is with a better idea what you don't do is you don't start this fucking meme of punch nazis like everybody keeps saying punch nazis like don't say that you're talking stupid shit punched on air though girls are getting maced did you see that guy get punched on air, though? Girls are getting maced. Did you see that girl get maced in the face? No.
Starting point is 02:13:06 She had a Make Bitcoin Great Again hat, and they came up and maced her in the face because it looked like a Make America Great Again hat. Oh, she fucked up. Where is it? It doesn't matter, man. They maced her in the face. Not that it's super fucked up, but God. A guy hit her in the head with a sign, and another guy maced her in the face.
Starting point is 02:13:19 God, they're ruthless. Dude. They weren't ruthless with our boy Jake Shields. Yeah. He was at the protest They're like you can get maced. He's lucky didn't get mace in the face. Yeah ran the train I need more you need more than mace to fight Jake shield No, no, it's kind of fucks you up problem with mace is you can't see and if people just jump on you
Starting point is 02:13:36 You can't look Jacob probably jacked 90% of them that come anywhere near him I was making though you can't see and someone hits you over the back of the head with something Yeah, these fucking people are doing exactly what they would hate. And when I see people, like, there's people that have been calling out for a coup. They're calling out for a military coup. They're calling out for the... I've seen more than one person say this.
Starting point is 02:13:56 Like, the military needs to step in and take our country back. And I'm like, holy shit. Is this a Patrick Swayze movie from the 80s? Well, they're thinking exactly the way a fascist would or a tyrant would. They just have a different target. That's what I always say. It's amazing how many people think exactly like their enemy.
Starting point is 02:14:13 Exactly like their enemy. I want to kill all of them or whatever. And yet, the only difference is they have a different target. Well, it's crazy when you have a legitimate contest. You had a legitimate popularity contest and one guy wins. And you're not happy that the guy wins, so you want to start riots. Like, you might
Starting point is 02:14:29 have fucked up and not voted or you might not have done such a good job of picking a candidate or you might have had the wrong campaign, but you have to accept when someone wins, otherwise there's no fucking point in having this contest. We have this contest every four years and if you don't accept who won, as long as it's not
Starting point is 02:14:45 the cheating, whatever the cheating happened, it probably happened on both sides. Whatever legal shit they got away with, whatever shenanigans, and the PR they did to him with the whole grab him by the pussy thing and all that. There's a tax left and right on both sides. He came out ahead.
Starting point is 02:15:02 People aren't happy. I understand that people aren't happy, but you can't think that you can start a riot now because you didn't want him to be in there. They had a stupid fucking contest. He won the stupid fucking contest. The problem is you're having a stupid fucking contest to see who runs the world. And also it's important
Starting point is 02:15:17 to have a little compassion for the other side in this terms. Like I constantly hear Trump voters being characterized as homophobes, rednecks, dumb hillbillies and all that stuff. Because they're in there. They're in this terms. Like I constantly hear Trump voters being characterized as homophobes, rednecks, dumb hillbillies and all that stuff. Okay. Cause they're in there. They're in the mix. There's always there. And they're, they're, they're in the mix and ever on both sides, the categories. Here's the thing. It might also be worth taking a little bit of a human approach and looking at Trump voters and maybe a lot of Trump voters, maybe a lot of Trump voters who
Starting point is 02:15:42 are good people didn't like Trump that much either, but they liked Hillary way less. Or maybe Hillary's talking the way Obama has been for the past eight years and their lives haven't changed. For sure. And they were desperate to see anything else work. Be a little compassionate on why a lot of people voted for Trump. Because remember, this country voted a black president and a lot of those voters were white two times in a row. And a lot of those voters were white two times in a row. Well, in order for him to have won, you have to have some people that voted for Obama in the last term that voted for Trump this term.
Starting point is 02:16:11 Correct. There's a lot of people that thought it would be a better thing to have him other than her. Yeah. So they're not all racist. They're not all, you know, homophobes. That's why I was always really careful about, I was always critical of Trump. I was very careful not to be critical of Trump voters because, you know, there are a lot of good people. Yeah, but you're not being honest because there are dummies in there, too.
Starting point is 02:16:29 Of course there are. Just like there's dummies in the Hillary camp. Of course there are. 100% there are. And that's why those stereotypes exist. When you talk about the latte-sipping Hillary supporters who literally know nothing about what are the negative things she's done. If you say anything about her, you're a sexist. I mean, there's a lot of that going on, too. Those are real people. Like, the real ridiculous people on the left and the right, they're all real.
Starting point is 02:16:48 You know, so the hillbillies that love Trump, dude, I've seen it, man. I saw a video where this guy got pulled over in an altercation with this guy, hitting this other guy, got in sort of a traffic altercation, and this guy comes up to his window. He's calling him the N-word, and he's saying, Trump, man, I'm with Trump. Trump's the president now. And it's that type of person of course that like there are people like that that want to you know let you
Starting point is 02:17:11 know that this is their guy now because they're white and that this is like a racist thing you think their race is winning you think there was kkk people that voted for hillary like a special group no chance kkk for hillary how many kkk people are there like let's be honest how many voted for Hillary? Like a special group? No chance. KKK for Hillary? Not one that we're talking about. How many KKK people are there? Let's be honest. How many just straight up racists? And how many KKK people? 2,000? Official KKK people? I don't even know if they're racists. I think they're just dicks.
Starting point is 02:17:35 Maybe 200,000. I'm sorry. 200,000 I thought I saw. Okay. That sounds... I wouldn't doubt if there was a million. In the South? I think there's definitely probably a million racists. I'm trying to laugh. I'm saying official KKK. Ku Klux Klan members.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Joining an organization is annoying. How many UFC fans are there? There's a lot. But if you had to join an organization to be a UFC fan, there'd be far less of us. You mean buying a pay-per-view? No, if you had to wear a hood and go to a fucking flame. You had to go to a bonfire. 5,000.
Starting point is 02:18:02 What? More than 40 different Klan groups exist, many having multiple chapters or claverns. That's cute. Including a few that boast a presence in a large number of states. There are over 100 different clan chapters around the country with a combined strength in members and associates that may total around 5,000. I said 2,000. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:18:19 They're a little bigger than 10th Planet. It's a little bigger. A lot of those people. I'm on their ass, though. Fuck the KKK. I'm on their ass. That is so crazy. I don't even know if they're smart enough to be anything. I think that they are.
Starting point is 02:18:32 A lot of times the people are just sort of guys who want to be part of a group. And, you know, they've been told something. They don't do any research. And they're just dicks. I mean, there are a lot of just shitheads who want to be part of a hate group a lot of the problem with black versus white is the same problem as left versus right black versus white and left versus right share that fucking team thing man they share that team thing and white people want to think that they're on one team and black people want to think they're on another team and we fuck each other up doing that it's so stupid human human
Starting point is 02:19:02 human beings are very tribal i mean anthropologists tell you that all the time that human beings are tribal don't you think it's about time like this generation has cut the shit no like absolutely not what do you mean well i'll tell you what you don't think it's about time you know with jared diamond who's who wrote guns germs and steel he's a great amazing guy and he said that he fascinating that when they were studying different tribes in papua new guinea that had been isolated so they were they weren't really influenced by western culture at all and what would happen was they they have two tribes that would get along really well and they even intermarried and you know they they shared things and everything else and as soon as there
Starting point is 02:19:40 became scarce resources like water or game and one side's very existence started to get threatened. So, for example, maybe this one tribe's closer to a water source. And the other water source dried up. So what will happen is, it's really amazing, is very quickly the tribes will start making up stories about each other. Yeah, we've talked about this before on another podcast. I don't know. Yeah, you did. We talked about this. You did. You talked about how before on another podcast. I don't know if we talked about this.
Starting point is 02:20:05 You did. You talked about how they decided in a very short amount of time to state the other people were bad and they went over and killed them. Yeah, so I think that's human nature, man. And I think when you start talking about getting along, getting along until you can't afford certain shit. Yeah, but you can now. That's the whole point.
Starting point is 02:20:19 Right now, life has never been easier. So what I'm saying is it's about time that this generation figure out that people are just people. And that it's fucking stupid for all red-headed people to join together and form a clan of fellow people. That's obviously not working. I agree with that. It's just so stupid. I think that's getting through. It is.
Starting point is 02:20:38 It is. It is getting through. And it's more getting through today, I think, than ever before in history. Because of the internet, right? Yeah, because even if you go back and watch those old Bugs Bunny cartoons, you know, which ones they don't show Well, they don't show that dude that much I bet they showed a lot and they don't show they don't show Pepe Le Pew Fuck rapist. He's a little rapist. He's really really feeling touch. That skunk is a rapist motherfucker. He would fuck that cat, remember? It's assault.
Starting point is 02:21:06 Always drives fucking that cat. He was just trying to kill that cat. All the time. Always. Can you imagine if you went outside and a skunk was trying to fuck your cat? Like your favorite cat. And some wild skunk. Just all up on her all the time.
Starting point is 02:21:18 Like your sweet cat that you pet behind her ears and she purrs. You love her. This dirty skunk. This fucking chicken eating monster. Skunks eat chickens, by the way. They do? Yeah, they break into chicken coops. I didn't know that. Caught one trying to get into my chicken coop. They're carnivores? What'd you do with them? They're a 100% predator. Skunks are predators.
Starting point is 02:21:34 I didn't know that. Yeah, we think of them as they eat ground-nesting birds, rats, rodents, chickens. They'll fuck up your chicken. He couldn't get in. He couldn't get in when we chased him off, though. He stunk out my whole fucking yard. Damn. Yeah. We know how to show me the deer eating the birds that were stuck in the fence? Yeah, they eat birds. Isn't it weird that you could be driving on the goddamn freeway with your windows rolled
Starting point is 02:21:53 up, airtight, and pass through a cloud of skunk? And you smell. How does it get through the goddamn- So powerful. How does it get through- I'll tell you exactly how. How is it so strong? The same way.
Starting point is 02:22:03 The skunk smell is so strong that your reaction to it is like a bloodhound's reaction to a person's scent. It's like electricity? That's how we can understand how a bloodhound works. And a bloodhound is probably even better than that. But in parts per million, whether or not you can detect it, skunk smell is so bad that in parts per million, they can shoot it in a backyard. And you could smell it literally a mile away. Wow. Well, that's in a backyard and you could smell it like literally a mile away. Wow. Well, that's how a dog works.
Starting point is 02:22:26 Yeah. Like a good bloodhound, they'll fucking smell you a mile away. They just got to figure out where it's coming from. They'll run that way. Nope, it's getting weaker.
Starting point is 02:22:35 They'll go run that way. You think it's electrical? Nope, it's getting stronger. You think it's electrical? No, it's a smell. It's particles. How does it go through the glass? How does it go through?
Starting point is 02:22:43 How do you breathe? You would run out of air if that thing was airtight. Also, air's coming into your car. Do you understand that air's coming into your car? It's filtered air. It's not airtight? Well, how come you don't feel the breeze when you're driving? Because it goes through a whole system that's inside your dash.
Starting point is 02:22:53 You would feel a breeze. No, no, no. It gets backed up. It gets backed up. And then it comes through filters. Like, you can open the filters so the vents come through, and then you can actually feel the breeze blow on you when you're on the highway. Or you can close that shit
Starting point is 02:23:05 But air still gets in hey, it's into the cabinet. I'm sorry. I'm gonna guess that it's electrical Well, you should definitely guess You go online with your phone just stay off YouTube Stay off Flat Earth 69's YouTube page. Yeah, with your slave made by slave labor. I'm going to throw this away to prove that I don't believe in slavery. Yeah, let's all throw away our iPhones. After I check my messages.
Starting point is 02:23:35 They've made these phones. What was the name of that company that made phones that were sustainably resourced? What was the company called? It was like Ethical Phones. Whatever. They tried to make some green phone. Yeah. Or it's okay, man.
Starting point is 02:23:49 Yeah. This guy makes 50 bucks an hour and everybody's happy. Well, isn't that- And they have families. They work three days a week. They said- Wait, wait. Isn't the material used, isn't that mined in the Congo?
Starting point is 02:23:59 The sticks. Yeah. The sticks. Little kids with sticks have to pull it out of the rocks. Well- It's called Tran. Yeah. I got to talk to my mom. They get it in the couple different places. Guess where else they get it Afghanistan
Starting point is 02:24:11 They found trillions of dollars worth of minerals in Afghanistan. Hey guys, we're just I can't believe this is here amazing It's like they it's like they had a like a whole X on a fucking map The Russians we get to in we were. Then finally they, hey guys, can't even believe this, but guess what? There's like trillions of dollars worth of minerals here. Trillions! I bet they're just saying that. They're just there for the opium. And they're like, no, no, there's minerals here.
Starting point is 02:24:35 It's like it's endless. We just struck minerals. See, this is where there's a flaw in your thinking. They're going to take both of those things. They want it all. They want both of those things. The opium for fucking sure. Sturgill Simpson played a song on Saturday Night Live about the opium trade. They let him get away with it. Talking about how Afghanistan is like a front for it.
Starting point is 02:24:56 They probably didn't know the list. That economy is run by opium production. He's also a country music star. That's all good. He killed it on the Grammys. They grow a lot of poppies. He's a bad motherfucker, it on the ground a lot of poppy's bad motherfucker dude they grow 96% of the world's opium bat and we're over there yeah for sure just for like freedom we don't care about opium or
Starting point is 02:25:17 even minerals pulling out of those minerals here Wow amazing we're gonna leave behind a vacuum big-ass hose that goes out to a battleship. We're going to fill that motherfucker up with heroin every six months. Can't you just grow heroin in the United States in greenhouses? Can't you grow anything in a greenhouse? It's not viable. Hold on, what is that, Jamie? What did you just pull up?
Starting point is 02:25:37 Extra cost to make Google Phone in the U.S. Only four bucks? Holy shit. Not the iPhone, though. The iPhone would cost $2,000. Which phone is that? This is a Moto X a couple years ago. I'm. Not the iPhone, though. The iPhone would cost $2,000. Which phone is that? This is a Moto X a couple years ago. I'm going to the bathroom.
Starting point is 02:25:48 Okay. Well, that's a good phone if it's only $4 more. The biggest cost it says is that there's, in China, they have, at least maybe in one plant, they're up to 30,000 industrial engineers to help the workers if something goes wrong. Dude, they're saving mad cash. They're saving mad cash in China. Well, not just saving mad cash. They're paying them cash in China. Well, not just saving mad cash. They're paying them two cents an hour.
Starting point is 02:26:06 They also know what the fuck they're doing. They've been doing it for a long time. If you started that up in the United States, there'd be a lot of trial and error. You'd have to be willing to throw away a lot of money. Dude, the glitches, the bugs, the phones would be shit. Come on, man. Think about it.
Starting point is 02:26:19 It'd be like an American car in the 80s. They said an iPhone in America, first to build it now, would cost $2,000 with our resources. Yeah, I take that back now. You know what? You're right. But what does it cost now? It costs $1,000, right?
Starting point is 02:26:29 Well, no. Now the new iPhone's like $700, right? Yeah, that's the comparison. What is an iPhone 7S? What does that cost? They haven't made that yet. Are they going to put that auxiliary input back in on the next one? Are they going to ever bring that back, the auxiliary input?
Starting point is 02:26:44 No, man. They're making a phone. next one. Are they going to ever bring that back, the auxiliary input? No, man. They're making a phone. You can get an adapter. I use adapters. You know, you get a lightning adapter, sticks it in, has a regular hole in the bottom of it. I heard the iPhone 8, it's supposed to be flip capable. They're bringing out the flip. Flip?
Starting point is 02:26:58 There's a lot of rumors out right now. Come on. They said it's going to be no plugs to it, and it's all wireless charging, which is maybe or maybe not true right now. It's going to be terrible. Electricity is going to be in the air. We're all going to die. Yeah, it's not going to make it a book? No plugs to it and it's all wireless charging, which is maybe or maybe not true right now. It's going to be terrible. Electricity is going to be in the air. We're all going to die. Yeah, it's not going to happen. That's what Tesla was talking about, putting electricity in the air.
Starting point is 02:27:11 Bitch, you're crazy. Having it out there like radio. You're going to generate things. We're going to be walking around with Tesla coils bouncing off us. Come on. That could have been real. Aren't we already walking through a sea of electricity? There's definitely a lot of electricity around us and there's definitely
Starting point is 02:27:29 Wi-Fi in this room. We might be in an ocean of electromagnetism, right? Yeah, bro. Think about that. What's powering you? Your muscles? Your muscles are powering you? We're like plugged into some electrical outlet. Well, you know what it is?
Starting point is 02:27:45 Electricity is definitely a part of us. There's a lot of shit going on. There's water. That's important. Electricity that conducts through the water. There's all the vitamins that you have to eat in order to keep your- But what's keeping the electricity in us? Think about that.
Starting point is 02:27:57 Jesus. Jesus. JC. Nothing but the love of Jesus. I think we're running on wireless electricity already. For sure. That's just my guess. That's my guess.
Starting point is 02:28:07 We're like a bunch of cricket phones. Do you think that Wi-Fi and cell phone signals and all the signals that are around us all the time that just didn't exist when people were first created by our good Lord? How bad is it? We're not dying from Wi-Fi, right? We have no idea. Because remember the Bluetooth that you put to your ear? Like, ah, I probably shouldn't do that. Right. how bad is it no one's we're not dying we have no idea right we have no idea because remember the bluetooth that you put to your ear like i probably shouldn't do that right or didn't they
Starting point is 02:28:28 find that cell phones were bad like sleep next to and put next to your ear yeah people say that it fucks with your karma yeah or your chi one of them one of them things well what happened to brain tumors you know talking on cell phones did they did they let that go or is that real but didn't what's her name the fucking singer didn't she have she have, all I want to do is have some. Sheryl Crow. Didn't Sheryl Crow say that she got a brain tumor from doing press on a cell phone in the 90s? She thinks that's what gave it to her because it's on the same side of her head? What kind of fucking press store were you on?
Starting point is 02:28:58 Here's what's crazy. I talked to a dude who had cancer of his bone and his hip. And it was right where he kept his cell phone. And the doctor said that there's recurring instances that he's dealing with with people that had cell phones. This guy had to get a bone graft, bro. He had to cut a cancerous chunk. Clip on the side? He had to cut a cancerous chunk of his bone off, and then they had to put a bone graft from somewhere else in there and fill it back in place.
Starting point is 02:29:22 And he was saying that this doctor was telling him that all these guys that come in and they have those hip things, their cell phones, like that's the side where they would get cancer. Most girls usually put their phone in their back pocket. You're going to see a lot of ass tumors. Could be, dude. A lot of ass tumors. Could be.
Starting point is 02:29:38 I wonder. Well, we get some dick tumors. But wouldn't your fingers get the most tumors? Yes. Well, where's the hand cancer? Because my hands feel good. Yeah, my hands do feel nice. It just doesn't seem to be bothering anybody.
Starting point is 02:29:49 No one's getting hands cancer. Maybe you just got a weak hip bone, you fucking pussy. Maybe you need to walk it off. Yeah, maybe it's just a coincidence. Huh? Huh? Maybe you shouldn't clip your goddamn cell phone to your hip like a psycho. But did you see Sheryl Crow?
Starting point is 02:30:01 Did you find that article? She actually had benign cancer, and she didn't want to get the tumor removed. Whoa, but she got a tumor in her dome on the same side as where her cell phone was, and that's why she thought that it was from doing press. She didn't win the lawsuit? Super skeptical hippo face. How dare you? Back when there was no internet and you had to do press for a radio
Starting point is 02:30:19 and you had to do press for an album that was coming out, you'd just call people up and do interviews. And that's what you did. Look at this. Sheryl Crow, my brain tumor may be related to cell phone use. See? They chose a fucked up picture of her, too. She must have been drunk there.
Starting point is 02:30:34 God dog. Just fucking spray tanned up. There are no doctors that will confirm that, said Crow. 50 Cent Monday while appealing on the premiere of Katie, the new syndicated talk show hosted by Katie Couric. Hilarious.
Starting point is 02:30:49 I do have a theory that it's possible that it's related to that. I used to spend hours on the old archaic cell phones. Well, she's probably right.
Starting point is 02:30:57 There's no doctors that will even confirm that. You know what? But it's part of a brain where she often held her phone. Have you ever noticed?
Starting point is 02:31:05 Have you ever noticed? Everyone holds it there. Yeah, let's chalk it up to something else. But it might be true, though. Could be the sun. Maybe it is. But it could be that that's what happened. That's totally possible, that she had that phone up to her head and rotted her brain.
Starting point is 02:31:17 It's a stretch. You would hear more about more cases. Well, the doctors agree with me. Maybe there's a cover-up. I don't think they do. Maybe there's a cover-up. It's hard to cover up because a lot of people are trying to test it. That's what's going on.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Cover-ups. I don't know. I'm just guessing. But radiation. Maybe the doctor worked for Apple. Hold on. Are you going to just talk over them or are you going to let them talk? I'm listening to him because he's getting me thinking about something because he's talking
Starting point is 02:31:36 about. Here you go. Like a cover-up. Jesus Christ. He was in the middle of talking. You just force over him. Just bullshitting. Well, you might be right.
Starting point is 02:31:43 Maybe the doctor's worked for Apple or Android. I don't know. I just want to know what happened to that. I mean, you would think it is. I would believe that it is dangerous. I don't know. But maybe it's not. I hope it's not.
Starting point is 02:31:54 I hope that's all bullshit. But, I mean, does anybody fucking know? They don't know yet. Well, they haven't been around that long. Yeah. Like, how long have people been using cell phones the way we're using them now, where you're constantly on them 20 years No, is it been eight years?
Starting point is 02:32:15 Because smartphones were the thing that did it was it oh seven or oh eight Yes, yeah, so from then on people are like slowly But surely getting more and more integrated into using that electronic device and constantly being near there because before that there was no Twitter Facebook or Instagram or anything that sure for your weekends yeah there was no like answering questions on Google so you might and also you you like could text and send calls forever right there was no internet until 2007 nobody was like going online people were still on the phone weren't they like they like not like now. I remember you got the Trio.
Starting point is 02:32:45 The Trio? Yeah, piece of shit. And you're like, yeah, it was the phone with the internet. That's why Blackberry was so important, because the email. Yeah, because no one was on the phone. You're not on your phone a ton texting. Actually, people have had their phones at their heads for longer. Since like, what?
Starting point is 02:33:00 Since probably 92? Yeah. Not right there on now. That's what Sheryl Crow was saying. Sheryl Crow became popular in 94. I remember that because I had just come to LA and all I wanted to do was have some fun was on the radio back then.
Starting point is 02:33:14 It was a big jam. Good jam. So those phones were just, they might as well have been plutonium in a fucking big golf cup. Well, they're like this. You held those bitches under your head. But actually, I read this thing about how when
Starting point is 02:33:25 radiation, like from a phone or whatever, I guess the idea is that it can break apart certain, like, mitochondria or DNA strand. What is it? Sounds like some bullshit. It'll take, it disrupts
Starting point is 02:33:40 certain... Get that from the library, bro. No, I fucking can't remember. It disrupts things, and that process can actually cause sometimes cancer. So it's pretty hard to kind of draw a through line because there's so many different causes of cancer. Well, also, there's the reality that what causes cancer to you is not going to cause cancer to him versus not going to cause cancer to another person. And what would make you sick, everybody has their own weird biological makeup. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:04 And some people are super susceptible to all sorts of weird diseases that other people aren't. And there's also environmental factors. Maybe where you work is kind of fucked up too. Right. Maybe you're working in a gas station or something like that, or you're doing auto repair, and you're fucking breathing in paint fumes and shit. And then on top of that, you're dealing with that. Right. That could just be a combination of factors.
Starting point is 02:34:23 It kills your immune system. All the factors, yeah. Wow, shit. with that right that that could just be it'd be a combination of factors it kills your immune system factors here it's like it's like when you smoke cigarettes not everybody who smokes even a lot for a lifetime gets lung cancer right some people just don't they live into their 90s smoking cigarettes crazy but then you know there's also the reality of living anywhere in high population centers you're being poisoned yeah everybody around us is being poisoned not a whole lot fuck yes 100 when you come over that hill and you look down into the valley and everything is brown as fuck, you are breathing that. You are 100% breathing that.
Starting point is 02:34:54 And your household chemicals. You don't see it when you get down. But you know how I can tell? Because there's a place near, like, there's a place we drive over between, like, Topanga and, like you drive over between, like, Topanga and, like, DeSoto, like, that area where you could, like, look over and you could see the mountains sometimes.
Starting point is 02:35:13 Like, maybe, like, Winnetka, coming down the 101. You can see the mountains sometimes. And sometimes you don't see the mountains. It's crazy. The fucking shit hides mountains! Yep. Giant, snow-covered mountains that you could get lost on and die in yeah and you don't see it at all you see brown yeah that's
Starting point is 02:35:32 did you're breathing that that's right 100% it's been like that forever in LA yeah it's always crazy yeah it's the valley it's holds in a mixture too but it's way worse it's way worse now than it was back when people were on horses and shit. You know what Bud Bretzman told me? Old friend of ours, producer guy. He said that before people even settled in Southern California, the Indians called Southern California the land of the smoke. Yeah, Valley of the Smoke.
Starting point is 02:35:59 Yeah, Valley. Something like that, right? Yeah. And you see, I've noticed this since I was a kid. Sometimes you can't see the mountains. There's too much smog, and then a storm happens, and then everything's clear. And then it's just a cycle. I thought that we were going to come to a day where it would never clear up.
Starting point is 02:36:16 It would just be so bad after 20 years, but it's actually still the same. Oh, it's gotten way better. The air quality in Los Angeles is way better. Cars are way better. Yeah, it's gotten way better. The air quality in Los Angeles is way better. Cars are way better. Yeah, cars are cleaner. Yeah, so eventually the wind just will clean it. Here's a real crazy fact. More population.
Starting point is 02:36:33 A Porsche 911 Turbo, the air that comes out is cleaner than the air that goes in if you drive it in LA. Wow. What's a fact? Wait, wait, wait. Really? Yep. A Porsche 911 Turbo, its carbon emissions are so low that the air that it takes in into those turbochargers goes through the combustion engine and comes out the exhaust.
Starting point is 02:36:49 It's actually cleaner than the air it's taking in. How about this crazy statistic? The average car in the 70s emitted more pollution sitting without its engine on in a driveway because of fuel evaporation than the average car on the highway today in Los Angeles. Totally makes sense. That's brand new. You remember we used to hear the gas slosh around back there?
Starting point is 02:37:10 Yeah. Like if you had a car, like an old car, and you took a turn, you went a little sideways, you would hear the gas slosh around the back of your fucking shitty car. Carburetors before we had catalytic converters. You smelled it inside the car. You had to roll the windows down when you were on the highway. It's not bad, right? It's like magic markers.
Starting point is 02:37:27 I dig that stuff. Sharpies. I'll smell a Sharpie. So anybody that's worried about being poisoned, you're definitely being poisoned. We're breathing in brake dust, 100%. It's not good for you, and it's going to shorten your life. It might only shorten your life by a few years. It might make the last few years of your life more uncomfortable.
Starting point is 02:37:42 But if you go somewhere where this is not the case you go to like fucking Deer Valley, Utah You go hang out up there and look out over the mountains. I'd rather breathe the air Then live there My parents just kill me three years That's why I brought it up Love it. It's beautiful. It's cool to visit. No, the problem is we gotta get more cool people to live up in a place like that. That's right. That's what you gotta do. Like, we're
Starting point is 02:38:09 in the wrong spot. Like, the people that we know are all awesome, but we're definitely in the wrong spot. The only thing that's good about this spot is that it's warm, there's no bugs. But the real problem is, it's warm, there's no bugs. So everyone loves it. Like, one of the reasons why the Indians call this the Valley of Smoke is, like like fire is fucking normal
Starting point is 02:38:25 For here. Yeah, things are supposed to burn down and then they build back better I mean this is like it clears out entire forests like Controlled burns is something that Forest Services do because you have to burn down a certain amount of the old shit Otherwise it just becomes kindling and then when the fires do come they're're unmanageable. And then on top of that, the carbon needs to fucking be recirculated into the earth. It's a good thing to have these burns. And that happened for millions of years. And now because there's no burns, it changes the environment.
Starting point is 02:38:56 There's places that used to have burns and now they control them. So the forest goes away. And you just got these big, dry-ass, grassy, shitty areas over hundreds of years of doing this. It's so weird, man. It's like the way people live, we think that we can just stay in one spot and this spot's going to be fine. That's never been the case anywhere on Earth. So we're just supposed to move constantly? We're supposed to be nomadic.
Starting point is 02:39:21 You have to move. That's back in the day. You have to find. No, dude. You can't stay right next to the ocean. That fucking, that Malibu coast is a joke. But I own property. Those people with the fucking, oh, look, I've got a cement post.
Starting point is 02:39:31 This is my spot. Bet you're on the edge of the great water. Just right next to you is a giant monster of water. It's miles deep. It's three quarters of the surface of the earth. And you're like, the edge is mine. Get off. Don't you frisbee in front of my edge.
Starting point is 02:39:49 We pick a spot like some crazy, stupid crab that's locked itself on a reef and it's claiming the reef as its own. That's what we're like. We're standing by the ocean with your $20 million house in Malibu, kicking surfers off your front. You're by the great water. You think that's going to stay there? Get the fuck out. Go to the hills. At any time, there could be an earthquake
Starting point is 02:40:10 and a big wave. The one that goes all the way to Arizona can come over the top. Have you ever went to Malibu and checked any houses out? Fuck yeah, I lived in Malibu for a while. You didn't like the waves, right? Yes, dude. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:40:22 My daughter broke her arm at school, and we couldn't stay at this place because it had staircases that were really steep. And there was one that went down to the ocean. It was one of them electric stairs. And it was broken. And so it only went like this. So you had to climb it like a fucking ladder. It was sketchy as fuck to get down to the ocean.
Starting point is 02:40:39 And it just was too dangerous where her arm was broken. You loved Malibu, though. I remember that. I love the air. I love the looking at the ocean. But I don't want to live there. I don't want to live next to the big water monster. I do.
Starting point is 02:40:52 Because when you're at high, this is what happened with me and the missus. We got high one night and went downstairs. There's this downstairs to this house. It's like literally the water's coming in right under the house. That's scary. And we were sitting there and me and and her were looking out the window. And I looked at her, and I go, fuck this place. A little too high, maybe.
Starting point is 02:41:10 I was like, fuck this place. No, no, no, no. You realize what it really is. Like, when you're right there at night in a house overlooking the ocean, it's real nature reveals itself to you. Because you can be really complacent when you see everything. See, when it's light out, you see everything. You look up, the sun's shining, the clouds are moving, you see birds. You look down at the ocean and you go, wow, this is so
Starting point is 02:41:39 cool. It's so calming being by the ocean. But when you're at at night it's black and there's nothing out there and you realize oh my god that's all water that's all water how long that's all water dude we stayed there like we rented it for three months i stayed there five times are you serious well part of it's because my daughter broke her arm but part of me was like oh god so high that i realized the nature of it. It is a big, dark monster of water that is totally unfeeling and teeming with life. Oh, yeah. And most likely, if you look at the habits of nature, most likely when things become too dominant, something comes along that tries to take them out. When things take too much from one environment, they wind up starving or going extinct.
Starting point is 02:42:23 This is like the constant cycle of life, right? Here we are. Right, fellas? Here we are standing next to this great wall of life that we've been sucking out with nets, killing everything. Could you imagine if you could go back 500 years and just look under the water and see what it looked like and then go back to today and look under the water and see all the fish gone? Yeah. Like how many fish there must have been a thousand years ago? Huge dead zones we've created. Just look under the water and see what it looked like. And then go back to today and look under the water and see all the fish gone.
Starting point is 02:42:45 Yeah. Like how many fish there must have been a thousand years ago. Huge dead zones we've created. Do you imagine how clean it must have been everywhere before we were pumping our shit into the ocean? And there was giant animals. When I was scuba diving in Tahiti just like a couple months ago, you look out and all you see is fucking schools of fish. It's like finding Nemo. There's no difference. I swear to God all you see is fucking schools of fish. It's like finding Nemo. There's no difference.
Starting point is 02:43:06 I swear to God, you see sharks. I looked at it. There are four sharks there, lemon sharks. That's probably what it was always like. Dude, it's like teeming with life. That was probably the whole ocean at one point in time. The coral, when you touch the coral, there are things in the coral. He told me to just put your finger in it.
Starting point is 02:43:22 It was this big flower. It was beautiful. It just went and disappeared like a magic thing scuba diving, I was down there for so long that I almost got nitrogen poisoning really pleasant way to die actually you go, people will take their regular
Starting point is 02:43:36 out and give it to the fish so they can breathe and you just die, you die super slick, not me bitch, I'm gonna make it to the surface yeah I'm gonna figure it out, but I was down there for two hours man, and you know what you never see when you scuba dive? What fish? What do you think? What animal do you never see?
Starting point is 02:43:50 Seal. Whale. Chickens. Walruses. You can see seals. You never see, not at Blue Whale, you can see whales. You never see dolphins because they don't like the bubbles. And I talked to the guy who's been scuba diving for 40 years.
Starting point is 02:44:02 I said, you ever seen dolphins? He goes, never. Not once. I was like, what? So they see the bubbles and it was probably louder than them. I guess they just don't like it. and I talked to the guy who's been scuba diving for 40 years I said you ever seen dolphins he goes never not once they're too smart what so they see the bubbles and it was probably loud I guess they just don't like it probably sounds like shit
Starting point is 02:44:10 and then probably probably don't like it that you could stay under no they probably like it when you go to the top and get the fuck out of there yeah
Starting point is 02:44:16 I don't know it's very interesting they we saw a whole school of them as soon as we got up in the water they were beautiful dolphins yeah the little ones too
Starting point is 02:44:22 the gray ones you know you see them in Malibu all the time maybe they hunt them dolphins are in Malibu all the time. Maybe they hunt them. Dolphins are in Malibu. Well, I'm sure some people do. They hunt them because they kill tuna. That's one of the things that the Japanese do. They're not really eating them as much as they're killing them in order to, like, because
Starting point is 02:44:34 they get it, like, you know, you got hundreds of dolphins. They find a school of tuna that decimate it. So these tuna men, you know, that like, they used to, if you watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi, have you seen that? Great doc on Netflix. Really interesting. But one of the things that really struck me was how he was talking about how when he first became a sushi chef, how easy it was to get the tuna and how much tuna there was and how it's like radically diminished.
Starting point is 02:44:55 Well, Jiro got famous, you silly bitch. We all want to eat it. Well, he didn't really. His place is a tiny little ass place. But I'm talking about from the time he was a young man to like now. He's like, what is he in like in the 70s or something like that? Yeah, I think he might be dead actually. His son runs it now. Yeah. His son runs? Yeah, I think he's no longer alive.
Starting point is 02:45:09 So he died after the movie? I think so. I don't think so. Is he 90 something? I don't think he's dead. I know his son was supposed to go next in line. You could have that job. How about that? It looked miserable. Yeah, everybody's like, they find beauty in it, and I understand. I watched it. I get it.
Starting point is 02:45:30 There is some sort of a beauty in the meticulous process of creating the perfect food. It looked exhausting, though. Unbelievably exhausting. And then how about, what's the name? What's the fucking guy's name? Jero? Jero. When he gave you the sushi, wait to watch you eat it. Yeah, freaky.
Starting point is 02:45:38 I get the fuck out of my face, man. I just want to talk to my wife. Yeah. How weird is that? That's an experience, though, right? Six-month waiting list, too. Do you think that that's different, though, than eating at a restaurant? Like, you go to a steakhouse, the waiter comes, everybody's pleasant, it makes the experience better.
Starting point is 02:45:54 You sit there, you cut up your food, you have a conversation. But if you're sitting in front of that dude, it's very different. You gotta, like, this is a completely different sort of experience. This guy's crafting some sort of culinary artwork for you in the form of these bite-sized morsels of perfectly aged fish with a perfect sauce on it, with a perfectly cooked rice. And he's been meticulous about this process for so long. You're taking in some sort of a weird vibe.
Starting point is 02:46:19 I wouldn't want to do it all the time. No, once every 10 years would be great. The other thing is you're going to walk away starving. No, it's mastery. It's a form of mastery that you should always experience because I think it's mastery in artistry. It's not even food. It's sushi though. It transcends food. Rice, fish.
Starting point is 02:46:36 No. Rice, fish. Do you see the documentary? I know, but yes, I do. Rice, fish. That's like saying, you can say that about anything. You can simplify it. But don't you think that life is about the variety of choices that you have? And it's good that you could go to a place like this and have these weird bites of clam mixed with a weird sort of seaweed wrap on top of it and some perfectly cooked rice or a little bit of...
Starting point is 02:46:59 That looks good. Are you listening to me? It's high level Benihana, right? But no, Benihana is when the steakhouse... High level, I said. They cook in front of you. Benihana, they cook So, but no. Benihana is when the steakhouse. High level, I said. They cook in front of you. Benihana, they cook in front of you. There used to be like Sweetfish or Sugarfish.
Starting point is 02:47:11 Yeah, Sugarfish. Yeah. But it's like a little art form. It's different. It's like, I like that that exists. I like classical music sometimes, man. Yeah, me too. I like that it exists.
Starting point is 02:47:21 But if I went to a Henry Rollins concert or something like that and someone was playing classical music, I'd be like, well, this doesn't work. You go see Metallica, and there's a classical music band that opens up for them. You're like, well, okay. Or the opposite. They have to go on after Slayer, Slayer, and then classical music. It doesn't mean that classical music sucks. It means that right now it's not the place for it.
Starting point is 02:47:39 It's not my frequency right now. I'm resonating at a different frequency. Sometimes you want a fucking T-Bone. Sometimes you want a fat porterhouse. You want mashed potatoes and gravy and shit. Sometimes you want to sit down in front of this guy who's been working his whole life on crafting the perfect kind of sushi.
Starting point is 02:47:53 And he's going to judge you while you eat it. Yeah, it's fine. He's going to judge you. He's going to serve you. I love that shit. Oh no, you have to eat a certain way? Yeah, and he wants your response. Wait? Yeah. A certain way? What's a certain way? I'm not sure, man. You watch the doc.
Starting point is 02:48:09 He just gives it to you and you eat it. No, no. What? I was in Italy and I was considered the one that won the number one restaurant in the world. Michelin gives an award to the best restaurant in the world. Once a year, right? We actually sat with the chef and he had
Starting point is 02:48:27 like this like this thing comes out and it was a bun it was like this bun with eel like barbecued eel in it you'd be like usually like what the fuck is this it was well when you when you bite into it you don't ever say oh that tastes just like you don't ever say that, you don't ever say, oh, that tastes just like. You don't ever say that. Or you don't even say that tastes kind of like. You just go, mm, never smelled or tasted anything
Starting point is 02:48:49 like that in my life. That's the most unique fucking flavor and experience I've ever had. And that's why he's always been in the top, for the past five years, always been in the top three
Starting point is 02:48:57 best restaurants. He makes eel sandwiches. That's his thing. He makes the craziest shit. He'll make a grilled cheese. He'll make a grilled cheese and it's like, oh, it's a grilled cheese.
Starting point is 02:49:04 Well, no, it's not, actually. It's what's called a He'll make a grilled cheese. He'll make a grilled cheese and it's like, oh, it's a grilled cheese. Well, no, it's not actually. It's what's called a perfect grilled cheese and then everything else is trying to be a grilled cheese. It's like, he'll do simple shit, little simple things and change your whole fucking life. Grilled cheese and eating sandwich. With three ingredients. Listen, let me tell you something, bitch. Nobody's changing my life with a fucking grilled cheese sandwich.
Starting point is 02:49:20 You don't know. He gets so ahead of himself. I'm just telling you. He was so into that grilled cheese. You get so ahead of yourself. It's a fucking grilled cheese sandwich. You don't know. He gets so ahead of himself. I'm just telling you. You get so ahead of yourself. It's a fucking grilled cheese sandwich. You don't know. Unless it's got
Starting point is 02:49:29 short ribs in it. We had a, I think it was a slider. I had a grilled cheese sandwich once with short ribs, barbecued beef short ribs in it. I'm fucking starving now. We should go eat.
Starting point is 02:49:39 Dude, those short ribs at Morton's with Alex Jones. Good lord, they're good. Holy shit. Not as good as this guy, you fuckers. Shut the fuck up. Good lord, they're good. Holy shit. Not as good as this guy, you fuckers. Shut the fuck up. You fucks.
Starting point is 02:49:49 You don't know shit about him. This is why Trump won. People like you. People like you and your fruity talk about grilled cheese sandwiches. You haven't eaten it. And slaves served us from China. Yeah. But it was cheap.
Starting point is 02:50:01 I'm eating one of these. If they gave you an option to buy the phone in the United States, but the phone might be a little more wonky and cost 500 bucks more, or you could just keep it going with slave labor. Let's keep slave labor going. I got to talk to my mother. Talking about the slave phone seven? Yes.
Starting point is 02:50:18 I'll take that. You're going to take that? I'll take the slave phone seven. You would take the one that's made in this meticulous Chinese factory by people that make a pittance. They do it right, though. Someone who works in America and can enjoy their football game on Sunday and get their fucking coffee break and buy their Ram truck and have a good house in the suburbs. You won't pay $500 more for your fucking phone that you got attached to your hip to give you bone cancer while you fucking drive down
Starting point is 02:50:46 the highway in your electric car, you faggot. I would buy an American 500. If it was the exact same phone? Exact same phone. 100% I'd pay it. Do you think the average person would pay $50 more?
Starting point is 02:51:01 No. I think $50 more is an achievable number. It's already ridiculous. It's already ridiculous. They're like $800. What's the difference between $800 and $1,100? Most of the time
Starting point is 02:51:11 it's getting subsidized by your cell phone company. Most of the time it's like you buy a contract, you get a phone for a discount. You buy an iPhone from Verizon or what have you. You're not spending
Starting point is 02:51:19 the full $1,200 or whatever it is it costs. You're spending a part of that and the rest of it gets like paid off over the years of your contract. Yeah, you get a five-year contract or whatever you do. But no one ever keeps the phone or you trade it back in that restarts. Yeah, they jack you back up, and then within a year or so, you can get a new phone for
Starting point is 02:51:36 free. You can just upgrade for free. They want to keep you hooked to the fucking tit. Some things, I don't see how you can get better at certain things. Like that Tesla out there, I don't know how you make a better at certain things. Like that Tesla out there. I don't know how you make a better technological car. Oh, they'll be better for sure. That's the first edition, brother.
Starting point is 02:51:52 That's the first edition, really. Well, they'll have much more integrated navigation systems, like navigation systems that have augmented reality. This is a big thing they're doing now with phones, where they're coming up with applications where you can hold a phone up and you will be able to scan your neighborhood and find out where the stores are. You could lift it up, and, like, you can go through the mall, and it'll give you reviews of each store, like, augmented balloons, like, cartoon balloons. Like, this is the Juice Factory. They have awesome orange juice, you know, and you point right there.
Starting point is 02:52:23 Wow. How about 3D Yelp, son? This is going on right now. Like this is like ready to launch stuff. Yeah. So, and this is just out of your phone, just looking, lifting up with your phone. It's going to get in your car. So that's going to be in your car.
Starting point is 02:52:34 There's, it's going to be way better internet. First of all, like podcasts, like the stuff that you guys are doing, it's going to replace radio essentially. This is going to be no reason to hire someone to rent a building to broadcast a signal when you can just get all the information from, whether it's a combat sports podcast or a news podcast or government. It's going to be on the internet. It's going to be like a direct line right into your car.
Starting point is 02:52:58 It's ridiculous that it's not there on every car already because it's free. Everybody wants something for free. It's right. You can get it at any time. That going to be 100 the case it's going to be very difficult to sell radio or even the idea of a radio signal in just a few decades it's going to be it's going to be like pay phones like pay phones don't exist anymore it's gonna be like the other thing the other thing that we were talking about with manufacturing is i think it's more likely that we're going to end up having uhD printers, massive 3D printers.
Starting point is 02:53:26 So we'll be able to order what we want that will be made right in our jurisdiction, in our town. And then it's a three-minute drive to your house with that. Or you come and pick it up at this main depot, right? Well, they think that's the number one problem with automated, like these artificially intelligent computers and all the different things they're going to have where they have robots are building cars and shit. The number one problem is going to be the loss of jobs for skilled workers. Like all these people that are currently doing these things. Right. Like automated trucks are going to replace truck drivers.
Starting point is 02:53:56 Right. Like UPS drivers saying, driving across the nation. All that truck drivers. All that shit. Make a bulk of, a huge bulk of like most male,-collar employment is truck drivers. Yeah, I think if they can go from San Francisco to New York with no sleep, I mean, you're going to get your packages faster. Not only that, they can't hit things.
Starting point is 02:54:13 Literally, they have cameras all around them. They back off. They've shown a diminished rate of accidents with automated cars versus people driving cars. That's how your car is going to get better, too. I drive my car. Yeah, but it's still not perfect. Do you do that, though? Do you ever do it? You said it? All the time. Do you pay attention, or do you just beat. I drive my car. Yeah, but it's still not perfect. Do you do that though? Do you ever do it?
Starting point is 02:54:25 You said it? Yeah, all the time. Do you pay attention or do you just beat off? I don't have to, but I do. What do you do? Beat off. Could you do that? Could you put porn on that big flat screen in front of you?
Starting point is 02:54:34 Yes. You could. Some guy died, right? Some guy died doing it. Yeah, he was in a self-drive jacking off the porn and died, I'm pretty sure. Wow. Could you imagine if that was your shit? Like, what would I like to do, bro?
Starting point is 02:54:44 I'd like to get on the highway, bring it up to about 75, start being all I know Could you imagine if that was your shit? Like, what would I like to do, bro? Like, to get on the highway? Bring it up to about 75? Start being alive. There are people that do that. People love to do things like that in public. Just all he watches is gagging videos. He just likes running mascara and snotty noses. I'm a 405.
Starting point is 02:54:59 And this guy's spitting on his own dick on the highway. Yeah. Jump in the backseat. Can you jump in the backseat? He's called Brian Cowan. Yeah. Jump in the backseat. Of course there is. Can you jump in the backseat? He's called Brian Kellen. Can you jump in the backseat? Can you put self-drive jump in the back?
Starting point is 02:55:11 So now apparently, I think what was happening, this is what I heard. I don't know if it's true. But guys would get drunk. They would put their address into their navigation and let the car take them home. I don't know if that's, and they'd be, they'd crawl in the back seat. And I think Tesla found out about that and thought that's a big liability. Why is that safe? Because it's not ready yet.
Starting point is 02:55:30 That's why I want that fucking car. It's not ready yet. Yeah, but if you let someone decide that they can press automatic driver, you can't decide when they can press it and when they can't. Like either it can drive itself perfectly or it can't. It's got to get better. But if you're drunk, okay, but if it does get better and you're drunk, is it irresponsible to let it drive home? No.
Starting point is 02:55:49 I mean, it seems like, does it really work? Does it really work? If it doesn't really work, why the fuck are you selling it? Why are you selling an automated car that doesn't 100% of the time, every fucking single time work? Because it's not ready. Yeah. They shouldn't release it when it can kind of work. Apparently, no, it is. You can only do it when it can kind of work. Apparently not.
Starting point is 02:56:05 You can only do it if you're in carpool or if you're over 70 in traffic. So if that's the case, you got to let drunks have it. What happens to me is when I do self-drive,
Starting point is 02:56:13 sometimes it'll just say, do-doot, and it'll go, grab the wheel. You can't, or sometimes you try to do it and they go, not here.
Starting point is 02:56:18 Like it won't work in certain areas. Oh, fuck you, Tesla. It tells you that? Yeah. In certain areas, you just can't. You click the thing
Starting point is 02:56:23 twice towards you and sometimes it's like, auto-steer, auto-steer not available. It's like if now, bro. In certain areas, you just can't. You click the thing twice towards you, and sometimes it's like auto-steer. Auto-steer not available. It's like if you have a freaky girlfriend, but every now and then she turns you down just to give you that little element of mystery. Like, is it going to go down? Or is she going to get mad at me for no fucking reason whatsoever? Keeping you on your toes.
Starting point is 02:56:38 Cut me off. God damn this freaky bitch. That's why I don't get down with these Teslas. How about, I'm so tired. I really don't. I can't get down with these Teslas. How about, I'm so tired. I really don't. I can't get down with them. You don't like the Tesla? No.
Starting point is 02:56:48 Well, kids, should we wrap this bitch up? This has been fun. I want everybody to know. We didn't talk about fights at all. It's okay. You know why? Okay, let's go over real quick.
Starting point is 02:56:55 All I said was Cyborg's going to punch a bitch in the face. Do you feel like Jermaine Durandamy should have won, or do you think that she should have been deducted points? Worst case, it should have been a draw. I think the right thing to do was Holly should have won, or do you think that she should have been deducted points? Worst case, it should have been a draw. I think the right thing to do was Holly should have won. You have to deduct those points. I think even Jermaine realized that when she goes,
Starting point is 02:57:14 I'll give Holly a rematch right away, because tainted. She's like, I'm not a dirty fighter. She knows what she did was fucked up. Holly won that fight. Holly definitely got the only legit knockdown. She landed that question mark kick. That was beautiful. Beautiful.
Starting point is 02:57:28 She hit it behind the shoulder, came over the top. Blang. I gave Holly the win for octagon control. She landed more leg kicks, and she had the only significant strike in the, like the big strike. It felt like Jermaine Durandamy did more damage when she connected, but she didn't connect as much. But then Holly did do more damage in two instances. One with the question mark kick, and another time she dropped her with a straight left. Yes.
Starting point is 02:57:51 That was one of the best punches of the fight, and that was in the, I think it was the fourth. Fifth round. Fifth round, was it? I feel it was fifth. Might have been the fifth. Yeah, she dropped her, and it was a big moment. So you could say that that round and the head kick round, two different rounds, were both easily 10-8, right? When you drop someone with a head kick and, two different rounds, were both easily 10-8, right?
Starting point is 02:58:06 When you drop someone with a head kick and drop someone with a- No, not 10-8. You don't think so? That was like off balance. But you understand there's new rules. The new rules are giving 10-8s easier. Which one? Which one's off balance?
Starting point is 02:58:15 The head kick? No, no, no. No, sir. She said herself she was dazed. Nasty combo. She said herself she was dazed, and there's a picture of it on Mike Winklejohn's or Jackson Winklejohn's Instagram account where you see how well it connected. Yes.
Starting point is 02:58:28 It's over the top. It's just shinned a dome doing. She's rocked. It's beautiful. She went down from that. That was legit. But Holly almost kicked her in the face while she was down. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:37 Perfect timing. I don't know. She might have. You're allowed to kick them in the chest, though. What's interesting is if she saw that her hands were down, she could have just changed the angle a little bit and hit her here. Which she has the skill to do. Do you think that's a good rule or a bad rule?
Starting point is 02:58:48 I think the new one-handed rule is perfect. I think that's perfect. So what is that rule? If one hand's down, you can still kick them. But if two hands are down, you can't. In the face. Yeah. So as soon as one hand comes up, you can kick them in the face.
Starting point is 02:59:00 But don't you think, I think to get rid of eye gouging, hitting after the bell, and even growing kicks, there's zero tolerance policy, where if it happens, we've got to deduct a point. 100%. So it's not up to the ref anymore. Right. Because refs don't want to change the outcome of the fight, so they're so scared to deduct a point.
Starting point is 02:59:17 What she did to Holly is ridiculous. She's been in way too many fights. She hit her so hard, it changed the outcome of the fight. And Holly still won. She rocked it with a giant right hand at the end of the bell, and it was bad. It was bad to the point where we all went, oh, like Daniel Cormier was next to me. It was horrible. It was the first time I did a commentary with Cormier and Anik, like the three of us together. It was really good.
Starting point is 02:59:38 Cormier is great. It was interesting. It all depends what kind of judge. You got judges in the fight, but some judges would look at it the way you guys are looking at it based on what you guys said. Some would say the right way. And then some would say, yeah. And then others would look at it like, okay, Holly was trying to take her down. Looked like she was avoiding the stand-up.
Starting point is 02:59:56 Couldn't take her down. She had her against the cage. It was like some judges will look at that as she doesn't want to fight standing and she's not able to get the fight to the ground. She's kind of just holding against the cage for safety. Some people look at that as losing a round and not winning a round. That's ridiculous because she wants to get free. It's octagon control and she has an underhook.
Starting point is 03:00:15 She wants to get free and she can't get free. That means Holly's holding her against her will. She's dictating the fight. That's the rules. That's literally how they judge a fight. That's the only way to look at it. That's the rules. That's the only way to look at it. That's literally how they judge a fight. That's the only way to judge a fight. The problem is that that referee didn't want to change the outcome of the fight. They're so scared of the backlash, they don't do it.
Starting point is 03:00:33 So you need to take that power out of their hands and go, I poke. But that same referee was separating people when they were clinching. There was a lot of weirdness to it. He's a moron. New York should not have those big fights. How dare you? Can you believe what you just said? I'm surprised they let him even do that title fight. They have to. It's New moron. New York should not have those big fights. How dare you? Can you believe what you just said? I'm surprised they let him even do that title fight.
Starting point is 03:00:47 They have to. It's New York State. New York State is going to appoint their own referees in a certain amount of fights. And I don't know how many. I don't know how it works. I don't know what the agreement is. But that's often the case when you go into state athletic commissions. John McCarthy, Herb Dean.
Starting point is 03:01:01 I know. You have the best. You have the best in the world. Eve Levine. You have some of the best in the world. Did John McCarthy or Herb Dean come I know, you have the best. You have the best in the world. Eve Levine. You have some of the best in the world. Did John McCarthy or Herb Dean come out and make a statement about that? Yeah, John McCarthy said they should have issued a warning right away, like a strict warning on that first one, which I disagree with.
Starting point is 03:01:15 And he goes, on the second one, I would have took a point. They should have taken a point right away. Yeah, I agree. I agree for absolutely the second one, but I think the first one was so egregious. Baa! Crack! Boom, boom, combo. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:27 Wobbles her. You have to take a point. I'm just not buying that, you know, I get the heat of the moment. You can't let that happen. I get that you're in the heat of the moment. You want to kill and destroy, and you're Jermaine Duran to me, and you got 46-0 in Muay Thai, and you're a 10-time Muay Thai champion because you're a fucking killer. She's a killer, man.
Starting point is 03:01:43 I mean, that's what she is. But there's a rule. That was dirty. And the rule's the rule. You know what was going on. You know what was going on. You've been in 46 fights before that and you never did that. So all of a sudden you're doing it.
Starting point is 03:01:52 It's the heat of the moment. You want to see an immediate rematch? I just did it twice. Immediate rematch? That 141-6. I felt as shit. I think so. I would say you have to have an immediate rematch.
Starting point is 03:02:00 You have to. But Jermaine Durand and me, look, everybody knows that Cyborg's looming in the background. You know, Cyborg's always going to be there. There's no winner in this. I mean, Holly should have won, but you have to fight Cyborg next. Enjoy that. Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see what the choice is. Whether or not they go straight to a rematch or whether or not they let Cyborg fight.
Starting point is 03:02:20 Isn't 45 a nightmare for her to suck down to? No. 40 is. She's done 45 many times. It's not easy. Here's the deal. As you get older and you do it more often, your body resists it more and more and more. And the fact that they make her, I still maintain to this day
Starting point is 03:02:34 they should have never asked her to go to 140. They should have never been trying to get her to 135. They should have just either have a featherweight division or don't. She said she could do it, though. Dana said he met with her and she was like, yeah, we could do it though. Oh, she's so crazy met with her She was like, yeah, we can do it. So that's when I cool man There's so many fighters that drop down a couple weight class. That's a normal thing in a so big. She's so big brother
Starting point is 03:02:53 You get smaller You get smaller people 45 40 gonna do a class she can make 45 she's done it before but even now like as people get older again Like there's a lot of fighters. It gets tougher and tougher, and they can't do it anymore. Some guys just can't do it anymore. Johnny Hendricks is dealing with it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 03:03:11 Johnny Hendricks. Anthony Rumble. This Sunday, we're doing a Fight Companion. Are we doing it? Let's do it. Oh, shit. Are you here Sunday? Well, I'm going to be in Nashville.
Starting point is 03:03:18 Thank God. Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Nashville, Zany's Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Everybody come see me this weekend. That's not Sunday. I fly back Sunday, but I haven't seen my family in 10 days. Okay, we'llies, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, everybody come see me this weekend. That's not Sunday. I fly back Sunday, but I haven't seen my family in 10 days. Okay, we'll see them in the morning. Make waffles and shit.
Starting point is 03:03:30 I'll see. I'll see if I can do it. What time? Probably 6 o'clock, I think. 6 o'clock. Because it's 7 o'clock. If I don't, the people will freak out. You got Hector Lombard, Johnny Hendricks.
Starting point is 03:03:39 Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Johnny Hendricks is fighting Hector Lombard, his first 185 pound fight. I hate that fight for Johnny. It's not a good fight. Really? No. God damn it. He's half in and half out. Hector Lombard looks so jacked right now. I haven't seen him. That ass on swole. Dude, there was a photo of him like post-training, like
Starting point is 03:03:55 flexing his abs. He's so jacked and at 85 he can just eat whatever he wants. Enjoy that Johnny Hendricks. Yeah. But Johnny Hendricks is powerful and explosive at 85. Not anymore. He's never fought at 85. No, I know that, but he's had such a hard time sucking at 70.
Starting point is 03:04:11 You're thinking of old Johnny. I can't imagine him at 85. You're thinking of old Johnny. Look at him. Jesus fucking Christ. That's a USADA hacker, son. Yeah, who wants that guy pounded on them? He's so jacked.
Starting point is 03:04:22 That is sick. He's lost his last two, though. Yeah, but he lost to Dan fucking Henderson. And who did he lose to before that? Neil Magny. Neil Magny. Yeah, Neil Magny was impressive because he had Neil Magny out in that first round. Neil finished him.
Starting point is 03:04:35 Amazing. Crazy, man. That was amazing. Crazy. You look at how tough Neil Magny has to be to survive the onslaught of that first round. Like, he got cracked. Neil wants to fight with Jorge Masvidal now. Holy shit. That's a fun one. Jorge Masvidal now. Holy shit.
Starting point is 03:04:45 That's a fun one. Jorge Masvidal. But isn't Masvidal ahead of him in the rankings now? He is, but Masvidal got his shot at number five. Why can't, you know, Neil's ranked seven or eighth. Why can't he get a shot? Here's the fight to set up. Masvidal versus Damian Maia for the number one contender position.
Starting point is 03:05:03 That's fucked up to do. Damian's already got it. Damian's already won the number one. What you. That's fucked up to do. Damian's already got it. Damian's already won the number one. What you got to do is Masvidal, Robbie Lawler. But it's going to take a while because they have to have this fucking rematch, man. I know, Masvidal, Robbie Lawler. That's a good matchup. That's a good matchup because they'll bang.
Starting point is 03:05:13 Old teammates, Robbie Laff, bad blood this summer. And they'll bang. Those two, oh my God. Wouldn't you rather see Cowboy versus Robbie Lawler? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would. You know what? I don't want to see it anytime soon. Cowboy, take Lawler? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would. You know what?
Starting point is 03:05:26 I don't want to see it anytime soon. Cowboy, take a goddamn break. How much of a time? At least six months. Six months. Six months, no training, no head injuries. Six months, you're not in pursuit of the title right now. It's just kind of chill.
Starting point is 03:05:36 He's got nothing to prove. He's amazing. He's done his thing. I wonder if there's a way where you can tell how long a guy should take off after they get a severe knockout. I wonder if there's tests that they can do where they can tell you long a guy should take off after they get a severe knockout. I wonder if there's tests that they can do where they can tell you. You know how you fuck up your meniscus?
Starting point is 03:05:50 They give you a scope and they go, look, just be real easy on it. Four to six weeks. Exactly. They have a time limit and they can look at it and then they can do an MRI afterwards. Hey, you're looking good, Brendan. So we're going to authorize some light training,
Starting point is 03:06:02 but please take it easy. Let's see how we feel. They can do it off the reaction drill. Can they? They do it. It's a test, a reaction. In football, we used to do it. If you got concussed, before the season, you do the test,
Starting point is 03:06:13 see how fast you were, and then if you got concussed, they make you do it, see how fast you were. Wow. And then you do it two weeks later to see. What is it comprised of? It's like all these different objects, and you have to touch it when they blink, and then got to put patterns together oh wow oh like sort of like that what was that game simon yes yeah there you go it's like simon but with shapes but you have shapes and colors and
Starting point is 03:06:37 then you'd have a certain timeline if you did in 46 seconds if you're concussed you did in two minutes and do it two weeks later and you're back to your normal reaction time. That's really interesting that we have it that way because some people would argue that there's some stupid motherfuckers out there. It doesn't matter if they're concussed. They're still going to suck at that worse than you are. Well, if they suck before they still suck. Let me back in, coach. This guy's a moron. He can't remember his own
Starting point is 03:06:57 fucking name. You let him play every week. For sure. Come on, coach. I'm sure there's better ways. The brain we just can't get into. But that's the thing is there's not better ways. One of the scariest things about CTE is they can't really check to see what you have until after you're dead. How is that the case? How come they can't see that with MRIs? Is it that MRIs just aren't as effective yet?
Starting point is 03:07:17 That gray matter doesn't show up, does it? There are a lot of issues with MRIs. They did an MRI on a dead salmon and certain parts of the brain lit up. So you got to be very careful. Maybe it's Jesus. Maybe. Maybe it's God and the fish. MRIs don't necessarily tell you, like when they say, oh, this part of your brain lit
Starting point is 03:07:33 up when you were doing this, when you were thinking about this. It's a little bit misleading. It's not as a... Why is that like a shock that like some area of their brain, even though the body's dead, might have some weird connection to the great beyond while they're sitting there at the Fulton Fish Market
Starting point is 03:07:50 on a pile of ice. Like there's some part of their brain that's tuning in. Fish heaven on fire. Tuning in to the God force of the universe. And we just say, it's over for him, man.
Starting point is 03:08:00 Look, no gills. We already gutted him. It's over. And he's there in his little fucking fish head traveling through dimensions well they used to always wonder why when they cut your head off when when they guillotine when they cut your head off sometimes they'd see people mouthing prayers while they were still doing it it's good move so is you are you conscious if your brain has oxygen
Starting point is 03:08:21 you get your head cut off right away. Are you looking? Is it possible for your head and your brain to be looking at your headless body? No, sir. For sure. No, it is. Here's the deal. Because when your head gets cut off, the blood's not pumping through your head. It's going to stay there. For a second.
Starting point is 03:08:38 Some of it's going to spill out. Whatever's there is going to carry oxygen to your fucking stupid brain for as long as you stay alive. And it's only going to be a few seconds. So if you're lying there and there's still blood in your brain, you're looking over at your head, you're like, oh my God, now I'm dead. Nothing's coming out of your mouth because you're not attached to your lungs anymore. Yeah, that's what they did. That's why they also had that shit.
Starting point is 03:08:57 But what if you got shot in the heart and you died like right away? Like you have all this blood. No, you don't. You don't die right away. You die really quickly. Your body goes limp right away. It takes a few seconds. It takes a few seconds.
Starting point is 03:09:07 But if you had a shotgun just blow a hole through your chest, you wouldn't be alive. It would take a few seconds. You still got the oxygenated blood in your brain. Although when you get your neck severed, when you get everything severed that quickly, doesn't it knock you out though? Sometimes, I'm sure. In some cases. But there were, they said that a lot of times
Starting point is 03:09:26 the head would still be mouthing prayers as it was. I can only imagine, man. Would you read that? It's just always the legend when you had your head cut off. It's in the Bible. But there's a book called The History of the Guillotine.
Starting point is 03:09:41 The Guillotine was a doctor. Imagine being in a town square. They decided some fucking pickpocket needs to get his head cut off in front of everybody and get to see this guy. They do it in Saudi Arabia? That was their entertainment. I know, but how crazy is that? It's fucking brutal. Imagine watching that big thing drop down on someone's head and the fucking head hit
Starting point is 03:09:56 the basket. Well, isn't it weird that we're still into that? There's a certain thrill to it. Sure. Like those ISIS videos are bigger than ever. They get more views than ever. Didn't Mississippi just was it Mississippi that just passed a law allowing
Starting point is 03:10:08 firing squad executions again? That's some redneck shit. Is that Mississippi? I think it might be Mississippi. In Saudi Arabia every Friday. Aren't they having problems getting the medicine? Yeah, so they just plenty of bullets down there. Fuck it. I mean it is kind of weird that there's like a good way and a bad way to kill
Starting point is 03:10:24 people. I agree. In Saudi Arabia, they still have public executions, and they have the guy there with a sword, and he comes out, and then you're brought out, and I believe somebody says a blessing over you, you're able to say some prayers, and then
Starting point is 03:10:39 I believe, my dad witnessed this a couple times, it's a public thing, and you'll squat down. Your dad witnessed this? Yeah, because his officer was right there. it's a public thing, and you'll squat down. Your dad witnessed this? Yeah, because his office was right there. You get on your knees, or you just squat down? Did he go out and watch it close up? Well, he could actually see some of it from his window, apparently, his office window.
Starting point is 03:10:55 A prime spot. But yes, he was there, and he saw it. And my mother saw it, too. So the guy would be, his hands, I believe, were tied behind his back. He's forced to squat, and what they'll do is if they're good, they'll jab you a little bit so you stiffen, and then boom, really quickly the head comes off. Wait, so they jab
Starting point is 03:11:11 you in the back? Just so your body, so you don't sway, so you, you know, and then boom, and it comes right off. Are they still killing, do they still have the death penalty in California? I'm lost on that. Yeah, they do, but they haven't killed anybody here in quite a while. Isn't it weird that they used to kill people with gas chambers? Isn't that like the most evil Nazi thing you could do?
Starting point is 03:11:27 Electricity is worse. Isn't electricity the worst? Isn't that like super evil Nazi? I think so. Electricity is worse. Especially when it doesn't work. What's weird is that like real violence, like bullets is what we frown upon. The real effective way.
Starting point is 03:11:37 Like shooting someone in the head. Put a gun right to their head. And the cheapest way. Blow it away. Yeah, the most. And the cheapest. The easiest way. For sure it would work.
Starting point is 03:11:42 Why you gotta gas them? That's like ridiculous. Just shoot them. It's inhumane, bro. For sure it would work. Why you got to gas them? That's like ridiculous. Just shoot them. It's inhumane, bro. For sure it would work. I mean, but inhumane, but so a gas chamber is supposed to be humane? No, I'm saying shoot them. It's obviously cheaper and the way to go.
Starting point is 03:11:52 So are they using the gas chamber because they're trying to be humane or are they trying to be evil? I don't get it. Well, they just have to figure out a way to do it where it seems more systematic than a bullet. Well, also lethal injection. I think now lethal injection is the most common. But was the gas chamber, was it to be humane in California or is it to be an evil and we're
Starting point is 03:12:14 going to get revenge on you killers? No, I believe that public execution as it was done in this country, whether it was through anything, whether it was hanging, whether it was electric chair, whether it was gas chamber, there was always the idea that it was supposed to be done at least by the state in a dignified manner, not in a way that constitutes cruel and unusual punishment, for example. So you would never torch somebody to death. You'd try to make it as quick as possible, as systematic as possible. The state says you have to die. You give your
Starting point is 03:12:45 life up for the crime you committed, an eye for an eye. And that's done in a very sort of antiseptic, systematic way. But a gas chamber? You know you fucked up and you're strapped to a chair and you're looking up and all the people that were friends with the person you killed are staring
Starting point is 03:13:01 at you and they're about to cook you. They're about to fucking screw this electrical cap down that you man I don't think you can I don't think how is that you can't see what I think it's a one-way man who invented that shit who thought that was a good idea yeah it's even more fucked up it's one way man you're and you can't see them diapers on you sometimes and I think the reason they don't shoot you in the head is so that you're the family if the family wants to have an open casket funeral. All that goes out the window if you kill someone.
Starting point is 03:13:28 We know it's really fucked up. The whole thing is that they give you your choice of what you get to eat. Oh, yeah. You get a last meal. You get to pick your last meal. Oh, yeah. You can get fucking eel sandwiches. Twinkies and shit.
Starting point is 03:13:39 Yeah, man. Have a nice beer, a nice cold beer with it. Last meal. How would you like to go if you had a choice? Electric chair, gas chamber, or lethal injection? Pack of Wolverines. Throw that in there as well. Lethal injection because they put you to sleep first.
Starting point is 03:13:51 50 Wolverines. And then what about between electric chair or gas chamber? Fuck. I don't know, dude. I don't want that electric chair. You have to choose one. Fuck. Come on.
Starting point is 03:13:58 You have to choose one. With the gas chamber, you go into convulsions. You foam at the mouth. It sucks. So electric chair then. I don't know. I don't fucking know. What's worse?
Starting point is 03:14:06 I like how they have to hit you again sometimes. Hit him again. I was watching this thing where the electric chair, it didn't work, and they tried it twice, and it didn't work on the dude, and now they can't kill him. Do you believe that stuff from Faces of Death? We talked about this before, those killings in Faces of Death. That's not real, right? No, that shit's real.
Starting point is 03:14:21 Some of them are fake. No, I think they're all fake. No, some of them are definitely fake. No, they're all real. I think they're all fake. Some of them are definitely recreations. Some of them are fake. No, I think they're all fake. No, some of them are definitely fake. No, they're all real. Some of them are definitely recreations. Some of them are definitely real. There's a really, really real one where they have this guy from the Middle East and they
Starting point is 03:14:30 tied him to two different trucks and pulled him apart. Yeah, that shit's real. Whoa. Seriously? You know what? I saw a documentary. It was on YouTube. It was about the guys who put it together.
Starting point is 03:14:40 They're being interviewed. The guys put faces together. Oh, they said it's fake? Don't do that, bro. They faked everything. And they show you how they did it. The monkey brain, they said- Oh, that's definitely fake, yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:48 Yeah, it's all fake. All of it. Where they have that corpse and they're eating that. But Eddie, hold on a second. Eddie, that's not true because that fucking judge shot himself on television.
Starting point is 03:14:57 What's that guy's name from that song, Hey Man, Nice Shot? Bud Dwyer. Bud Dwyer. That guy is in Faces of Death and that guy really shot himself on the fucking news.
Starting point is 03:15:06 I don't remember which one he was in. I saw something on YouTube with the guys who put it together, the directors, they put it together. They're talking about different people in the scenes and they're going through it.
Starting point is 03:15:14 But there's a guy who jumped off and he definitely, that wasn't fake. There's a lot of people that died. I think the whole thing was fake, man. Well, I think there was some. I'm telling you. They faked it all.
Starting point is 03:15:23 No. It was my childhood. No, they didn't, Eddie. They had some real footage and some fake footage. They have some real live events where people died. I'm telling you, I think there was some. They faked it all. No, they didn't, Eddie. They had some real footage and some fake footage. They have some real live events where people died. I'm telling you, I saw a documentary about each scene. Oh, then we'll just chalk that up as truth. It was on YouTube, though.
Starting point is 03:15:34 I'll admit that. We'll end it under another ridiculous conspiracy. Come on, man. It's already 6.30. For God's sake, I gotta go take care of my dog. Take care of your dog so Sunday Fight Companion
Starting point is 03:15:48 6pm Pacific Time for Travis Brown versus Derek Lewis and Hector Lombard versus Johnny Hendricks those are actually two pretty good fights
Starting point is 03:15:57 that should be interesting so that's Sunday Hugh Fox bye everybody no alcohol that's the way it is Hugh Fox. Bye, everybody. No alcohol. That's the way it is.

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