The Joe Rogan Experience - #948 - Brendan Schaub & Eddie Bravo

Episode Date: April 18, 2017

Brendan Schaub is a podcaster, comedian, actor, a former professional football player, and a retired mixed martial artist. His new podcast is called Big Brown Breakdown. Eddie Bravo is an American Jiu...-Jitsu instructor, musician, former UFC analyst, and is the founder of 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 three two one brendan chubb you gotta say that he's the greatest of all time now we're talking about talking about mighty mouse yeah we're live oh we're live mighty mouse the greatest of all time i agree i texted you that too i said you know what i finally agree with you man mighty mouse number one in my book now i've seen everybody everybody except Fedor live. I would have to have seen Fedor live in his prime to really get a feel. I feel like Mighty Mouse is better than all of them. The dude's on so many different levels. It's like, here's everybody, here's next level shit, and here's Mighty Mouse.
Starting point is 00:00:40 He's so next level. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you come in and you're the best striker on the planet, he's still going to fuck you up. He'll still fuck you up standing. He'll take you down and submit you anyways. You come in of a world-class wrestler comes in and he's the best wrestler in the world. Mighty Mouse is still going to fuck him up. And take him down.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Best jiu-jitsu guy. You got a guy who's just amazing at jiu-jitsu. Mighty Mouse is still going to fuck him up. And take him down. Best jiu-jitsu guy? You got a guy who's just amazing at jiu-jitsu. Mighty Mouse is still going to fuck you up. Mighty Mouse tapped Wilson Hayes. Did you hear Wilson Hayes after? He went, I'd rather get knocked out. That was so demoralizing. Yeah, as a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I mean, Mighty Mouse, his striking's insane. His takedowns are insane. His jiu-jitsu's insane. He's got no weakness. His confidence is insane. His work ethic is insane. His takedowns are insane. His jiu-jitsu is insane. His confidence is insane. His work ethic is insane. His cardio. Everything. The best of all time.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Have you seen the ratings? Lowest of all time on Fox. How dare you? How dare you? I tuned in! You just pulled out your fat hog and pissed right in my cornflakes. Son of a bitch. How crazy is that, though? We need to see him go up in weight.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I think that's the answer. I know it's obvious Dana doesn't want that. It's obvious. But, damn. Can you imagine him against TJ Dillashaw? It is really hard. Can you imagine? It's really hard to sell an opponent against him other than someone going up.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Or Cody going down. Cody's talked about going down. He said he's down. He says he can make it. Well, it's not that uncommon that someone just rules a weight class so much that he goes up in weight. They do it in boxing. Or down.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Up or down. Yeah, in boxing. Generally, you step up. Let's see if I can take a bigger dude. You know what I mean? Like, Conor's on that level. He's like, fuck up the 45ers, but I'm going to come up to 55 for the challenge. BJ
Starting point is 00:02:27 did it. What do you think of this rumor? Now, I haven't even texted Dana about this. This UFC 213 rumor. Have you heard this? They're talking about Matt, no, McGregor and Tyron Woodley. Yeah, I know. I saw that. Is that 100% bullshit? What do you think? I think it's bullshit. Where'd that come from? From what I hear, it's
Starting point is 00:02:43 bullshit. I'm supposed to be utilizing my connection to UFC and texting everybody. I heard it's bullshit. I'm pretty sure I saw Ariel. You should have a rumor section, a rumor part of the show. Rumors are fun, though. That's the rumor that I heard. Can you imagine rumors from Joe Rogan? Dude, just a whole rumor show.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Dude, you'd have the best rumor show of all time. I had some deep rumors. I'm pretty sure Ariel shut that down, but Cyborg, I'm pretty sure Cyborg's fighting at UFC 213 in Anaheim. She tweeted that out recently. There was something recently where she tweeted out that if UFC doesn't get her a fight, let her go.
Starting point is 00:03:18 It doesn't work like that. I love when fighters do that, but it's like, hey, if you don't fight me soon, I'm fucking out of here. You ain't going nowhere, bitch. Contracture, you have to. To defend the ufc here which is you know they offered her fights yeah like two and she wasn't ready so they're like dude we tried all right we'll figure something out but geez and now you want to take off like give us a second here and in her defense apparently i mean there's the only way that like usada would grant her there it goes july 29th i'm making my first ufc fight in the usa so who do you think she fights she's fighting
Starting point is 00:03:50 jimenez she fights durandamy she says she is fighting durandamy what's up son and you know what's cool with that oh my goodness ebi is sunday july 30th and this, shit. And this is... You could do both. Oh, shit. God damn, dude. And there's a Big Brown Breakdown live in Long Beach that Friday, son! It could do! We're doing an all-girl... Rejoice, everybody! All-girl EBI July 30th. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:04:17 The UFC requested it. The UFC asked us, can you do an all-girl EBI? And I said, damn, I thought you'd never ask. Hell yeah. Cyborg could probably jump in that bitch. She's not going to get touched. She can come in there and just smash all your girls all at once.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah, you'd have to get someone big. No, just have all of them jump on her. Be sick. I go, just fucking king Kong with the little planes. Did you see the new King Kong movie? No, it looks dope, though. It's dope for a while. You let the 12-year-old boy in your brain out.
Starting point is 00:04:46 It's fun. But for that long? It's really stupid. I'd be down to see it, though. But what's his face? John C. Reilly's in that movie? He's hilarious. The guy from Step Brothers?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yes. And he's that guy. In Wreck-It Ralph? Really? He's that guy in the movie. He's comic relief. Does he play For Your Health? He plays a dude that crash-landed there.
Starting point is 00:05:03 But does he play the guy from For Your Health? You ever watch that on Tim and Eric? Uh-uh. No. Dude, John C. Reilly is humongous. He's so huge, but he loved doing the Tim and Eric show. You're saying size-wise he's huge. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:05:15 As a star. Oh, yeah. As a star. And then Tim and Eric is a crazy, bizarre, obscure comedy show. It's fucking nuts. It's like Key and Peele on acid. There it is. I've seen this.
Starting point is 00:05:29 He does this show. Big ass actor does this show and he plays a character. He's like a news host. His name is Dr. Steve Brule. Of course. I can't believe I couldn't think of it. Dr. Steve
Starting point is 00:05:44 Brule. Look at him. He't believe I couldn't think of it. Dr. Steve Brule. Look at him. Dude, he's the funniest. How hilarious is he? He probably does it for free. Yes, he don't give a shit. He's also wrecking it out, son. He's one of the funniest guys of all time.
Starting point is 00:05:54 That fucking scene where him and Will Ferrell, not in Step Brothers, but in Talladega Nights. Oh, my God. When they're discussing shake and bake. I mean, come on, dude. No, what about when he takes over and he's his girl and paints his face over his? What the fuck you doing? He's like, I moved in, man. He's like, you want to hang out?
Starting point is 00:06:14 He's like, no, we're not hanging out. How about he calls him up and asks him how to use his stereo? He goes, why the fuck would you want to watch TV while listening to the radio? He goes, because I like to party. That movie's classic. That guy's got the best timing of all time. Him and Will Ferrell together, you could just have them. All you need is just get a couple of funny guys to write a loose format for them and just let them go wild.
Starting point is 00:06:40 That story. They might be the two funniest pairs ever. Dude, he played so serious in that movie Gangs of New York. Remember Gangs of New York? That's right. He was a serious dude. Nasty dude. He was like the cop.
Starting point is 00:06:54 That must be so much fun for him. Daniel D. Lewis scared the shit out of me in that movie. He scared the shit out of me. I felt like he was really the butcher. They said he was an asshole on set, too. I bet. He was in character, man. He's one of those, I'm in character guys.
Starting point is 00:07:07 It's too deep for me. Fuck. That's right. He played a bad motherfucker in that movie. Yeah. That movie, Gangs of New York, is scary. It's underrated. Oh, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:07:18 But it's scary because you imagine what life was like if you were born into that environment. Oh, my God. Like what life was like if you were born into that environment because those are real whether or not that exactly happened What that know how much I'm sure there's some sort of a dramatic flair that they added to the reality of that but Whatever the fuck it was there have been places on earth that have existed where people hacked each other up with axes and swords like That just when you watch that you realize Jesus that like, you know, a few hundred years ago. Not that far. Not that far in the past.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Indians and shit. I mean, with they would, you know, retaliate, you know, because white men came and tried to take their lands. So the Indians were like, fuck you. We're going to we spot a wagon. We're going to fuck you up. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? So it was just back and forth.
Starting point is 00:08:06 we're gonna fuck you up oh yeah you know what i mean so just back and forth you had to worry about not just fucking bears and shit but you got to worry about indians damn if the indians spot you and they want to fuck you you're done son there's a lot of cannibalism going on too that people don't know about they probably love eating white people yeah especially the nez purse i just saw steve ranella told me about all this shit when I was hanging with him in the woods when Callan and I went hunting with him. Yikes. Are there any stories? The Nez Purse is terrifying. Are there any stories? There must be stories
Starting point is 00:08:33 of slaves that escaped and went and hid out with Indians, you know, and put on feathers and stuff like that, put the paint on. I don't think the Indians would let you in. No, they would understand. No, they would understand. No, they would understand. Are you kidding? No.
Starting point is 00:08:46 No, the Indians would be like, they understand. Indians aren't evil. They understand that those are slaves. These guys are running for their lives. There had to be some. Yeah, they might. There had to be some. They didn't get to the tent.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Listen, there was all sorts of stories about mountain men meeting Indians and falling in love. Yeah. Like, they didn't fall in love. I've seen movies. I've seen movies. Do you think that really happened? Do you think Indians...
Starting point is 00:09:12 Well, you know what? It would have to be a white guy helping the Indians out and being on the Indian side, understanding that their hand's being taken. I got three words for you. Dances with wolves. You think that really happened? 100 Costner. A hundred percent. Dude, I watched it. I watched it take place.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I've seen it, man. It resonated in my mind. It seemed realer than anything I watched on the news. Dude, we fucked them up so bad. We fucked them up so, just our diseases. We get like the flu. And you take out the entire religion. That killed 90% of the Native Americans.
Starting point is 00:09:42 We're like, what's up, guys? Hushu! Dead. Can you imagine dudes are like, dude, we're escaping. We're going to go find some Indians and live with them and fuck all the Indian women. Dude, can you imagine? Or could you imagine?
Starting point is 00:09:52 You can't touch the women. Come on. Even crazier. Could you imagine coming over here? They show up with big-ass dicks? They show up with these gigantic dicks? Yeah, you're not coming in my fucking tent with that dick. Yeah, that's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:10:02 There must have been problems. For sure there was problems. For sure problems. I just don't think that if anybody came from, like those Native Americans that were here back in that day, like, you know, they were competing with each other. You know? I mean, there was a lot going on there.
Starting point is 00:10:20 White people like to say that. They go, dude, they were fighting each other. Oh, they definitely were. So the white people feel better. That is true, though, right? That sounds like something white people would do. Dude, they were killing each other. Oh, they definitely were. So the white people feel better. That is true, though, right? Right? Come on. Dude, they were killing each other. It's true, though.
Starting point is 00:10:27 It's true. We were just helping them. It's true, though. Imagine if you were there and you had a cold and you just watched everybody die. You gave them a cold. You came over on a boat, you got sick, and everybody died. 90% of the people died. They didn't know, though.
Starting point is 00:10:40 But how crazy is that? Our bodies adapt to bugs and diseases so well. Maybe they just said that. Maybe they just slaughtered them all and said, dude, let's just say that- Let's say that. Let's say that. Let's say that. Let's say that.
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Starting point is 00:10:54 Let's say that. Let's say that. Let's say that. Let's say that. Let's say someone sneezed on them. They're allergic to cheese. Yeah, they all die from cheese. They're so fucked up. They're gone now. It's like basically who knows what part of history
Starting point is 00:11:14 is real or not. Hey, is there any Indians in the UFC? Has there been an Indian? Can you imagine a Jim Thorpe in the UFC? Some dude from a reservation comes in and fucks everybody up.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It'd be like Indian versus white guy in the main event. Like some Tonka shit from Street Fighter? You never know. I don't think so. There's got to be some badass Indians out there. I'm talking like full-blooded or definitely some badass Indians. You remember that one Native American that Boss Rootin fought? Remember that dude?
Starting point is 00:11:41 He was in King of the Cage. He fought a lot of different fights. He was like a real good mid-level guy big Native American guy I don't remember find out boss Rutan's last MMA fight. He fought an Indian. Yeah. Yeah, oh Was the guy a white guy but claiming 1 16th Indian? I'm trying as the card I think the guy was Native American. I'm pretty sure I don't think you're supposed to Indian That's right Reubenen Villarreal. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Ruben Hurricane Villarreal. That's the last guy he fought. That sounds Mexican. Ruben doesn't sound very Indian. Find out what nationality. Oh, Warpath. Yeah. Oh, god damn, he looks Indian.
Starting point is 00:12:17 He does. For sure. Big dude. 6'4", 247. That's a salty record. Oh, shit. 22 wins, 28 losses. This ain't for you. My man's in there banging them.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Top boss root and doesn't give a fuck. A lot of black people say they're part Indian, right? Get that check. Right? You'll have to be 116th to get that check. You gotta prove that shit. Do we got an MMA Wikipedia there? Well, either way.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Either way, he's Indian as fuck. At least in my book he is. He's a part. Oh, he's full Apache according to my book. That's one thing that I do know. I don't know a whole lot about Native Americans, but I know that the Sioux people, they actually call themselves Lakota. And the other Indians would call them the Sioux because it means enemy.
Starting point is 00:12:59 So there was like all sorts of crazy infighting. Look at that. The Ogla Lakota fight gets first UFC win. Okay. And that dude looks super Native American. The guy on the right or left? Left. That guy looks white as shit.
Starting point is 00:13:11 The guy on the left? With the jersey? Yeah, totally. With his chin. Yeah, he looks like a wrestler from Indiana, right? He looks like a straight white boy. He looks like a crazy Apache to me. He looks like Ben Askren's mom stuck with an Indian.
Starting point is 00:13:23 All right. He looks straight out of fucking... Oh, I've seen this dude fight. He's a Ben Askren's mom stuck with an Indian. Oh, come on, son. All right, he looks straight out of fucking... Oh, I've seen this dude fight. He's a tough dude. Yeah, really tough. He does look Indian. Straight up Native American. He looks Native as fuck in those pictures up there.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah, all right, you got that. Dude, come on. He got a little white in him. His name's David. Well, you know what they look like? They look like people from Siberia. That's the origination of the Native American. They traced the Native American.
Starting point is 00:13:46 They traced the genome back. They did this thing for when the Mormons were trying to prove that Jesus came from Native Americans. Silly Mormons. The Mormons were trying to prove that the lost tribe of Israel was the Native Americans because it's in one of their books. That's a good one right there. It kind of turns out that the indians but you know in history we we paint them out to be savages well we're so lucky that there's fucking people that study this shit so that we know that we could sit here in a room and just talk shit and google how the fuck did people get here from Asia? We know they walked across the Bering Strait
Starting point is 00:14:26 We know that it's like a fact and then once they did the genome on the Native American they went Yep, these people from Siberia so those people from Siberia if you ever look up there that fucking strong features Like Ruslan prod the car brought Vodnik off providing a cough I don't know that he's still fighting? He was like pissing black tarms. Like, you know what? I think I'm good. He's one of Speed of Sport guys. He's a Freddy guy.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Nick Curson's guy. Is he still working with him? He's a Freddy guy and he's a Nick Curson guy. Nick Curson's worked with him. You know what, man? He's been in some wars. That's what's up. Straight up wars.
Starting point is 00:14:59 The way that guy fights, you can't do that for very long. There's guys like Floyd Mayweather that can go an entire career and get rocked maybe three, four times where you get tagged a little. And then you got guys like Provodnikov that just butt heads with everybody. They try to break everybody. He had back-to-back fights
Starting point is 00:15:17 with Al Jari and then with homeboy, the black fella. The Beast, the Desert Storm. Yeah, Tim Bradley. Tim Bradley. Tim Bradley and him had chaos wars. You know, Tim Bradley, after that fight, had a stutter for six months. His wife was like, please stop fighting.
Starting point is 00:15:33 He was sick for like months. Jesus Christ. I'm not surprised. It was the fight of the year, too. Bradley got fucking. Chaos. Chaos fight. It was chaos.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Those fights, man, I'm so torn. Because while I'm watching, I'm enjoying the shit out of it. Me too. But part of me is going, fuck, I know what these guys are doing to themselves right here. You almost have an extra bump of information that's too much. But it still makes an Arturo Gotti, Mickey Ward fight even more glorious. What's why when they walk in a room, you're just like, Jesus Christ, there they are, man. I'll never forget with Jon Jones when he fought Gustafsson and I fought Mitrione. He had a war, and my coach, Tony Jeffries, has never been to UFC.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It's the first UFC he's ever been to. And Jon Jones won, and he's coming by on a stretcher because he was so beat up, man. His lips were out to here, both eyes clogged, and he's shaking. That was when he went straight to the hospital. He's shaking. Jesus Christ. And he walked by, and I just grabbed him. And I didn't know what to say.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I went, dude, I'm so proud of you, champ. And he just put a thumbs up. I probably couldn't even see me. He had, like, stewy eyes. Like, you can't see shit. And my coach goes, holy fuck. I went, that's the winner. That guy won.
Starting point is 00:16:42 See, something about Jon Jones, I think. I got a theory. I got an older brother theory. And I feel like dudes who have badass older brothers can fucking take it. Like, Weidman? Weidman had an older brother, and him and the older brother apparently, according to some of his interviews, his older brother beat him up and shit. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Makes you tough. Like, Matt Hughes, two twins. Imagine looking at yourself every day, just trying to beat up yourself and it's just a dead even every fucking time just a war jim miller's brother dan miller my brother used to beat me up but i never uh not beat me up but just like uh sock my shoulder like if i would fart he would sock me full I'd have to sit there and I would take it I would never fight back you know it's like in in boxing there's the the Smith family Liam Smith uh Aldo Smith there's four brothers uh three are world champions Cole Miller Micah Miller they're all just yeah savages monsters man there's a ton of people like that
Starting point is 00:17:40 yep the Lozon brothers there you go that's a go. Noguera brothers? Noguera brothers. Shit. Twins there, right, too? There's a bunch, man. Dude, so many. Shogun and Ninja? Oh, here's something that fucking rock your world or not rock your world. But if Jon Jones wasn't such a fuck-up, for lack of better terms, we're not even having this conversation that Mighty Mouse is the best ever. He'd be just going based off his regular schedule now. He'd be 13, 14-time world champ if no one beat him.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And he'd probably be fighting that heavyweight and having that belt too. Going down his best ever. Well, he's still got a chance. I mean, Jon Jones is only 30 years old, which is crazy because that means he's really about to jump into his prime. I'd say like an athlete's prime for combat sports. I feel like it's somewhere around 30 to 32. For heavyweight.
Starting point is 00:18:26 See, I don't think everyone. I think the lighter weight class, it's earlier. But look at the welterweights. The champs are always around that age. Except for GSP. I think he won the title when he was in his late 20s. Yeah, late 20s. When is Tyron Woodley's, what, 33?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, he had wrestling background. What's the latest with John Jones? What, 33? Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, he had wrestling background. What's the latest with Jon Jones? How old's Robbie? Jon Jones, his suspension comes up in July. Did you hear what Dana White said today? I texted you.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah, they're going to fight. It was Brett Akamoto, right? Yeah, Brett Akamoto interviewed Dana White from ESPN. He said that DC will fight Jon Jones, but if Jon Jones isn't ready by, I think it's the July card. Yeah, July 29th. Yeah, if he's not ready by then, then he's going to fight Jimmy Manowar, and then they'll fight down the road.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Crazy. So no warm-up for Jon Jones. If he does want one, then he can get DC's win. What do you think about that? Do you think that's smart for Jon? Or do you think Jon should take a warm-up? He should take a warm-up. The UFC should give him a warm-up.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Because, Joe, when has it ever worked when a guy takes this much time off and you just throw him right to the top of the heap? Think of Ronda. When has it ever worked? Think of Chael Sonnen. Like, there's a lot of guys. And people go, well, Dominick Cruz. Dominick Cruz didn't fight Cody Garbrandt, TJ Dillashaw after all that time.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Right. He fought Mizusaki, who's a tough guy. Mizusaki, and then he went right into TJ. I say. But still a warm-up. But TJ was a big gap. I know, but at least he didn't fight TJ. That first fight back, he ain't beating TJ. Right, but you know that he got injured after the Mitsugaki fight,
Starting point is 00:19:55 and it was another year plus before he fought again. True, and he might be the outlier here. He's an outlier. He's an outlier, but he's not as good in the first fight. If you look at him in the TJ fight, and then you look at him in the second fight when he fought Uriah Faber, he's way better in the Uriah Faber fight. Correct. He's more lean, he's fitter, and he's dealt with
Starting point is 00:20:13 a lot of the problems that he has. He has serious plantar fasciitis, man. Horrible. Have you ever had that? No, I've heard it. It's a fucking nightmare. I've had to deal with it. And you look at his style. What is that? It's like the fascia in the bottom of your feet tears You can't even like you can't get out of bed to warm up. It's a fucking nightmare It's impossible your Dominic Cruz is all footwork and what happened is after he tore his ACL
Starting point is 00:20:36 He took a long time off and his feet just weren't strong enough to keep up with his training Cuz his training is so foot foot. Yeah movement. movement yeah i'm like that's why i got it yeah back to the point should john get a warm-up you're you're in the the grand scheme of things i understand we want these big paydays you want the big rating so you toss them dc john jones a huge raider right but if something happens like ronda rousey lost what happens we gave ronda warm-up so you get paid on that it's huge a huge draw. And then she fights. It's a huge draw. But when you just toss them right to the very top, it's a one and done, man.
Starting point is 00:21:10 It doesn't make sense to me. They were worried, I guess, with the sale. You buy something for like $4 billion. You want to maximize your profits. It's just the issue comes up with purists, which I think all of us are purists. It comes up with purists, which I think all of us are purists, right? When you consider, like, when you look at it, like, at the end of the day, I want to see the number one contender fight the champ. I ride the fence. I get the business side from what they want to do, and then I get from a pure fighter standpoint.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I was just about to say, but I'm a hypocrite because I was happy when Dan Henderson got that shot against Michael Bisping. I'm like, that's what we want to see. Or GSB. It makes no sense he's fighting Bisping. Well, the problem with the GSB-Bisping fight is it ties up the division. And when you have a guy like Robert Whittaker who just ices Jacare, holy shit. That's the best adjective
Starting point is 00:21:54 to use there. He's a killer. Whittaker's a killer. Straight killer. Straight killer. Who beats him in the top three? I like his chance against anyone now. Yoel Romero's such a freak. Such a freak. I like his chance against anyone now. Who knows? Yoel Romero's such a freak. Such a freak. I feel like Yoel Romero. I like Whitaker on that, son.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Maybe. You're 100% right that it's a hell of a fight. I mean, do you see Yoel Romero and Jacare, I don't even think Yoel beat Jacare, really. You could really give some of that fight to Jacare. Romero's a split decision. But he had that one moment where he spun and hit Jacare with that spinning back fist and put him on queer boulevard.
Starting point is 00:22:27 But Whitaker made Jacare look like a fucking amateur. Just fucking hawked him down. He even had his back. He's like, get the fuck out of here. Oh, jiu-jitsu? Very cool. See ya. I feel like Whitaker's better now than ever, and I think he's only 25 or 26.
Starting point is 00:22:40 He's 26, right? 26, I think. He's no older than that. He's a young buck, and he's coming up strong. And he's another one that went from 170 to 185 and improved tremendously. As soon as he stopped cutting that radical amount of weight, all of a sudden dudes got vitality and power. He's not in the Brunson fight.
Starting point is 00:22:57 The Brunson fight was serious. That was a big wake up call to people because Brunson was putting it on him. Well, Brunson rushed at him chin first and I was like, oh my God, how's this going to work out? And he covered up his smart, composed, and then just yakoosh. Yeah. Those Australian fucking shovels, man. I'm a fan now.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And I thought he was going to lose that fight. And I went, oh, that's my guy. When I'm down, I'm down, man. Did you see all the Crocodile Dundee memes? No. There was a ton of them. A ton of them. I can't wait, man.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I mean, come on, man. A dude from Australia fights a dude who calls himself the alligator? Shit. That was a ton of them. A ton of them. I can't wait, man. I mean, come on, man. A dude from Australia fights a dude who calls himself the alligator? Shit. That's a great fucking point. I didn't even think of that. It's the right to sell. Crocodile Dundee, son. Now this is a knife. Now that's a knife. That's a knife. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:23:38 He's the new hotness, and that division needs some hotness. Like the new blood. I love when there's new blood, because like, fuck, yeah. That's what we need. Now we need that heavyweight and light heavyweight. Light heavyweight, we're like, I guess, you know what? DC, John, can you guys just fight each other every other weekend? Well, what did you think about Rumble retiring? When I went, here's what happened, right?
Starting point is 00:23:56 They read off the submission. DC raised his hand. I'm going in to interview DC and Rumble and DC are hugging. And then DC puts his hand on Rumble's shoulder and goes, you go first, you go first. That was a bad idea, I think. No, I don't think it was a bad idea, man. I think it was classy.
Starting point is 00:24:11 This is what I think about DC. At the end of the day, Daniel Cormier is a really good man. Great guy. He's a really good man. He gets so much hate, doesn't he? I don't get it, man. I mean, he's competitive, and before the fight he's saying, it's too bad that Anthony Johnson's in my weight class because he'll never be champion.
Starting point is 00:24:27 He's saying all the shit that you're going to say. But at the end of the day, it's true. He's on another level when it comes to his ability to compete. Another level. He's on another level. But just to critique the fight there, DC looked in the worst shape we've seen him. I thought if Anthony Johnson can beat him, this is going to be the time. I didn't know going into it, Anthony Johnson didn't want to fight or be in there.
Starting point is 00:24:49 If you're even talking about retiring, you're fucked with a guy like DC who's going to grind you out. It's just not going to work. Rumble Johnson was about four inches from a head kick knockout. He caught him with the foot in the face. He caught him, broke his nose. If he caught him with his shin, you see where that kick landed? Yeah, man. You feel like, god damn, Daniel Cormier can fucking
Starting point is 00:25:09 take it. He can fucking take it. He took that shot right in the chin, he went back to his corner, his nose was clearly jacked. We're looking at it in between rounds, like, that looks really broken. Went out there like it didn't bother him at all. See, I think that, and that was a good tune-up fight for DC, too. Not that Anthony Johnson's a tune-up, but his game plan
Starting point is 00:25:26 was crazy. He obviously didn't execute the game plan. So I think that was good for DC, because I think if that DC fights John, he's in trouble. I wonder what would have happened if Rumble connected. My question is, look at this. Smack! He catches him right with the foot. It's almost better he bent down.
Starting point is 00:25:41 His nose absorbs it. Hell yeah, that small nose, too. Oh, Jesus Christ. What a combination. But we've never really seen DC with a gut like that. Well, look, it obviously wasn't affecting him. Who knows if he's injured? He probably was.
Starting point is 00:25:54 He's always injured. He's always doing some shit. He's got a problem with his knee, and he's had it worked on. He's not young. He's got stem cells in it. Shit's going to happen. He's 38. It looks like that kick fully connected, right?
Starting point is 00:26:05 He just took it. He was just like, whoo. He went down into it, which I think he didn't get full momentum, like you said, with the shin, where he was in a lot of trouble. Dude, he fucking ducked right in. It looked a lot harder than I thought it was. Yeah, for sure. But it was certainly the foot.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And the thing about feet is you can knock someone the fuck out with a foot, no doubt about it. But a foot gives a little bit. Yeah, I was just going to say it gives. Yeah, it gives a little bit. But the shin, man, the shin doesn't... You know, the first time I ever realized how much of a benefit that was, I worked out with
Starting point is 00:26:32 Maurice Smith. And Maurice Smith was showing me, like, when Maurice Smith faces a heavy bag, it's really interesting. Like, if he throws a roundhouse kick, the bag goes straight. Like, he hits it. Like, he's hitting straight on. He's, like, stepping to the side and hitting straight on. It's almost like he's hitting it with a front kick in terms of how the bag moves away from
Starting point is 00:26:50 him. And in the Taekwondo and karate days, everybody went round with these round kicks and it was more like a slap. It didn't have the same kind of penetration. And when you see like a Maurice Smith or a Pedro Hizzo. Eddie, do you remember when you and I went to, we went to Beverly Hills Jiu Jitsu way back in the day, way back in the day. You were a purple belt. We went to Beverly Hills Jiu Jitsu.
Starting point is 00:27:11 God damn it's back in the day. And we watched Marco Huas kick the bag. Oh, no, no, no. Pedro Hizzo. It was Pedro Hizzo was kicking the bag. Marco Huas was too. But Pedro Hizzo, I never saw anybody in my life who had leg kicks that were as scary as pedro hisso i remember he kicked rico rodriguez once when they fought and the thud the swak
Starting point is 00:27:33 and you looked at it and you went oh you can't take those there's no way no one's taking those you can only take so many of those even randy couture was like yeah but he he was on the show he goes look at my leg that's from from fucking. It's fucked up forever. It's like a huge dent. Like someone took a bat. He did the same thing to Randleman. He would leave dents in you, dude. Do you remember?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Do you remember us watching him kick the bag? Do you remember that? I think it was someone else. No, I don't think it was me. We went to Beverly Hills Jiu Jitsu. You weren't there? No, I've never been to Beverly Hills Jiu Jitsu. I've been there once, but it wasn't with you.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Well, it was that time. Powerful faulty memory. I don't want to say nothing. I'm just going to let it go what are you I thought it was you and me I'll tell you what was weird too with that fire xanthi he goes I'll move on
Starting point is 00:28:12 to something else and then his twitter background changes to Los Angeles Rams he put hashtag LA Rams so all my friends are texting me and now I judge him for it they're like oh bro
Starting point is 00:28:20 he's playing for the Rams I'm like you fucking moron no he's not playing for the Rams no he's not fucking suiting up for the Rams I don, bro, he's playing for the Rams. I'm like, you fucking moron. No, he's not playing for the Rams. No, he's not fucking suiting up for the Rams. I don't know if he's being a special teams coach or some shit like that, but he is not touching the field catching footballs. I'll tell you that right now.
Starting point is 00:28:35 No, he's got some sort of executive job, correct? Is that what I've been hearing? So that's the Rams helmet. That's all he had. Yes. Okay, but does it say anything there? What does it say? Just LA Rams, Rams, LA Rams.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Hashtag Rumble Squad, hashtag had. Yes. Okay. Does it say anything there? What does it say? Just L.A. Rams. Hashtag Rumble Squad. Hashtag Rams. Huh. The only way he's suing up is if he's the mascot. If he's the new L.A. Rams mascot, that shit would be dope. I think he gets some sort of a job. I wouldn't retire the UFC for that. I'm not playing for Rams.
Starting point is 00:28:56 No, you knuckleheads. I'm not playing for the Rams. Are you crazy? That's hilarious. I love it, man. Good for him because this comes from a guy who retired early or maybe one too late. But for him to be able to do that, the balls it takes, especially you're talking about he's tip of the spear. Number two, could beat anyone not named DC or Jon Jones.
Starting point is 00:29:15 He can beat everybody else. And he did. For him, like, I'm good, man. I'm out. It takes a lot of courage and balls, man. So I congratulate him on that. And I love that he just goes out and says it. I don't want to get hit in the head anymore. I don't want to wrestle with dudes anymore. He's always been and balls, man. So I congratulate him on that. And I love that he just goes out and says it. I don't want to get hit in the head anymore.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I don't want to wrestle with dudes anymore. He's always been that way, though. And I think people are shocked by that when they hear, you know, NFL guy where they don't say it when they're playing, but you find out later, he's like, dude, I fucking hated playing. It was the only thing I was good at, and I was making tons of money. With Anthony Johnson, he's always stayed like, yeah, I don't really like to train, man.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I like to get out of the shit. You know, it's not my thing. I just happen to have this fucking God-given power i'm really good at it i'm fighting that light heavy weight now getting fame and money oh another opportunity fucking see ya you know there's nothing wrong with that man there's definitely nothing wrong but people are surprisingly here professional health it's going yeah i don't really enjoy it man i'm just really good at it you know what man i'll never forget well i appreciate his honesty because i think that's it's it that's when a guy
Starting point is 00:30:06 talks about it that way. It's important for everybody. I remember when Matt Hughes got beaten by BJ Penn and BJ took the title from him and I asked him about it in the interview and he said, honestly, I have to tell you it's a relief. The pressure of being a champion is everybody coming
Starting point is 00:30:22 after you. It's honestly a relief. Like, balls that that guy has to say that in front of all these people that it's a really means being completely honest it's cool man because especially as an athlete especially for anthony johnson guy who he identifies as being just a fighter he's rumble for him to go i'm good man number two in the world see ya god dang it's inspiring it should be inspiring to people It is I think it's inspiring And it's also inspiring if he decides to take a year off And then he goes fuck this desk job
Starting point is 00:30:49 I want to kick somebody in the face I just need a break I mean that's entirely possible too I'm just waiting for someone else to get the belt because I can't beat DC You fools I mean isn't that an issue right Oh you run out of money I need some money I better fight
Starting point is 00:31:04 He was smart with his well we're he was smart with his money we're on the street that's good well his manager was smart with the money yeah that's good but even that guy like people don't you know anthony johnson number two in the world has god-given power in his hands you gotta realize as a ufc fighter tip of the spear and it's just where the sport's at he's not set it's not like oh i oh, I see a fucking yacht in Miami and I can do whatever I want. He's not set. He never had a seven-figure payday that we know of. You don't think he did for one of those title fights?
Starting point is 00:31:31 What do you think he got paid for those title fights? Which title fight? Are you talking about with DC? The first one with DC and the second one with DC. Maybe. I don't know what he got paid. I'm not even speculating. You could go on that.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Well, on the books, he didn't get seven figures. How many legends in boxing retired and then later came back because they needed money? Oh, Jesus. Oh, bro. It's crazy. And remember making millions? Yeah. Back in the 80s, making millions.
Starting point is 00:31:55 But I think they come back for more than that. Like, Sugar Ray came back. He was still rich. Yes. They don't all come back for the money. Bernard Hopkins is set. Roy Jones might have some issues, but he's with HBO. Bernard Hopkins with HBO. They do it for come back for the money Bernard Hopkins is set Roy Jones might have some issues But he's with HBO
Starting point is 00:32:07 Bernard Hopkins with HBO They do it for the love of the game Most of those guys are set Like Bernard is fucking set You know Bernard still drives an 89 Civic Because he doesn't want to go broke Bernard has a Bentley Does he have a Bentley now?
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah there's a whole story about him driving a Bentley And some kid drove the Bentley for him And the kid dent the wheels Oh god damn it Fucked his wheel up. Yeah. Well, forever. Where'd you hear this story?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Forever. Where'd you hear this? Civic. No, no. No, I swear to God. Where'd you hear that? When he was world champion of Civic forever. Is that a...
Starting point is 00:32:33 Can you Google that? Yeah, you can find that. Forever. Because he's worried about going broke. That is the opposite of a Civic. Are you sure? Now, where did you get your story from, Joe? Who are you telling?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Where'd you get your story about the Ross Williams? It was a story about him that he was doing, like, he was helping out this kid that was terminally ill. How did his rolls get brought up? Well, it was the car, the kid. He let the kid drive the car. And the kid, like, curbed one of the wheels. Sounds like fake news. Where'd you get that?
Starting point is 00:32:59 CNN? It could be fake news. Dude, I got it from the library. Dude, I let Callan's friend drive my Bentley. And he fucked it up? I didn't know he doesn't drive. He just drives a bike in New York. What?
Starting point is 00:33:10 And he goes, we're doing this bit, and we're filming it. And this cop goes, hey, man, I'm going to tow this car if you don't leave. And I go, oh, fuck, we're in the middle of it. And he goes, dude, I'll fucking move it. It's right there. I'll move it to another spot. And I go, I don't let anyone drive my car. I barely even valet. And I go, all don't let anyone drive my car. I very rarely even valet.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And I go, all right. I trust the guy. Goddamn near 60. I toss him the keys. He comes back. It was all good. He goes, all good, brother. Cool.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I walk out there to the right, park down the street. And this guy comes out in front of the house. He goes, dude, I don't know who the fuck was driving that car, but he hit the shit out of the curb. You know, those Bentley wheels are tough to come by I look at and I'm just like oh motherfucker I got it fixed but it was a nightmare did you bring it up to him no wow interesting you swallowed it to bring it out on a podcast well no I'm not gonna call his name out you know it's been taken care of I just you know if I was
Starting point is 00:34:02 younger I'd have flipped out but I was like in my car and went, it's just a car. It's all right. He didn't mean to, man. Life is good. That's good. Good for you. Wait, did you say you have a Bentley?
Starting point is 00:34:11 Yeah, I do. He has a Bentley. Nice. He's got a Bentley Continental GT. Super sport. That thing is super sport. Yeah. It's dope-tastic.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Oh, man. It's a dope car. You've never seen it? Podcast life. It's preposterous. I thought you had like a, before you had a, wait a minute. A Tacoma? Like a BMW?
Starting point is 00:34:29 Not a Porsche. A Porsche. That's right. Yeah. And that's gone. Red 911. You still have it? No.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And you had a M6 before that. I had a M6 before that, yeah. Those M6s are smooth. Damn, you don't fuck around. M6 is a good size. It is, man. It's a park cruiser, but it's still sporty. It's still Gran Turismo style like it's comfortable. Yeah
Starting point is 00:34:47 it's comfortable. The Bentley's cool. The best car I've ever had and I'll always be loyal to them is Porsche. That was the best car you ever had? That little car? I love Porsches man. I just love the quality, the customer service it's just it's different. Bentley I had to take to get my fucking rims fixed. I took them in. I mean they could give
Starting point is 00:35:03 two fucks. You know what they gave me as a rental? Mom Volvo. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Understated. Yeah, and they were like, well. You just got to play a character for a few days. I had a Bentley for a month. A friend of mine, a student of mine had a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:35:18 He had a Bentley. He goes, you want to borrow it for a month? Tell the whole story, like why he couldn't drive it. It's kind of hilarious. Why he couldn't drive it. Why he couldn't drive it. Do's kind of hilarious. Why I couldn't drive it. Why he couldn't drive it Do you remember? No, he went away Yeah
Starting point is 00:35:28 but do you remember like why he didn't want to drive it anymore because he owned a weed shop and The cops did not like when people were flaunting that they were making a lot of money at weed shops And I forgot you're right you're right So he got a Dodge Charger because the cops like it when you drive the car that they drive. He had a whole psychological approach to this. He's like, I'm going to get a Dodge Charger and put some cool wheels on it because these dudes who are guys, fucking smart guy, man. Kind of or crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:55 No, he was right because he's like, you know, these guys don't want you driving something they can never afford. But if you're driving what they're driving, guys like cars. It's like, oh, he's got a Dodge Charger. Dude, I'm telling you, you're driving what they're driving guys like cars so I go dude I'm telling you you're not a cop if you were a cop and you had a this is it charger it makes sense no it doesn't cops are so cool to me I get pulled over all the time you're big Brown they're fighting the kid fans no for real man if you I think he was right don't I think when he said it to me I was like that totally
Starting point is 00:36:24 makes sense. He goes, yeah. He goes, they like it. He goes, a friend of mine's a cop. He's like, they tell you they like it. Your best chances of them treating you like one of them. Drive what they drive. Drive a fucking Charger.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Dude, I'm not driving a Charger. You're such a fucking baby. You're so spoiled. I would drive a Charger. I'll tell you right now. An SRT Charger? I would drive a Hellcat I'll tell you right now An SRT Charger? I would drive a Hellcat Hell yes
Starting point is 00:36:47 Those fucking Hellcat Chargers It's a ridiculous car Dude I'd drive that Demon Challenger You know that's like $135,000 I think I want it So bad
Starting point is 00:36:56 I want it so bad Do you know what it is Eddie? It makes my dick hard Dodge has come out With the most preposterous car In all of mankind It hurts my heart When I see it
Starting point is 00:37:04 It's 850 horsepower. It goes zero to 60 in 2.3 seconds. It's called the Dodge Demon. They took a Dodge Challenger, put this ridiculous hood scoop on it, put fender flares on it, widened all the wheels, and dumped the most insane engine that anybody's ever put in a production car. It's so goddamn American, it's not even funny. It's an eagle. Suck on that, Isis. Yeah, it's an eagle getting his dick sucked while he's holding a flag. You know Hot Dog. With a gun in the production car. It's so goddamn American it's not even funny. It's an eagle suck on that Isis. Yeah, it's an eagle
Starting point is 00:37:26 getting his dick sucked while he's holding a flag. You know hot dog. With a gun in the other way. And a New York Yankees hat. With a Statue of Liberty saluting him. How much did they go for? Look at that, 808 horsepower. 717 pound feet of torque. That is
Starting point is 00:37:42 fucking insane. There's only a thousand of them. You can't fucking get one. Yeah, you can't get one. No, they're going to be collectors' items. But look at this giant fucking... Hold on, back that up again. Where are the size tires in the rear? Back it up just a little bit there.
Starting point is 00:37:56 A little bit further. There it goes. Okay, so they got 40s in the rear. Eh, that's pretty wide. What does production car mean? Does that mean at least 100? Is that what they're saying? They keep calling it a production car. What does production car mean? Does that mean at least 100? Is that what they're saying? Production?
Starting point is 00:38:06 They keep calling it a production car. The fastest production car. It means it's not like, you know, super, like there's not like 10 of them. Why do they put little tiny wheels in the front? That's not the original, that's not the wheels that are coming with the car, right? I think that's the wheels trying to make them do wheelies. I think they put those little tiny wheels in the front because they're trying to make the car do wheelies. But I'm assuming, because it does pull a wheelie. It's the first production car ever
Starting point is 00:38:28 I don't want that. It's like a dragster. I don't need that. I don't need a wheelie in my life But I think one of the ways they get it to do a wheelie is they put little skinny tires on it It comes with one seat It only comes with one seat. This is an insane car. This is a car that says fuck you It just said you get the second seat for a dollar. Oh, that's it? But if it comes with one, that's kind of dope. I want my friends to jump in.
Starting point is 00:38:50 It's just the biggest fuck you car ever. Hey, you drive. I only got one seat, bro. Dude. One seat? That way you have a good excuse not to bring the wife. Oh, it says it costs less than $100,000. That's what they say.
Starting point is 00:39:03 So, hey, it's only going to be $88,000, but the dealers do the markup to the demand. So you're fucked. Oh, the markup's probably going to be 100%. I'd go get one right now if I could and just fucking cruise the street shitting on people. You know what's hilarious? They're talking about the Ford Mustang GT350, the Shelby GT350. I saw that. You have a Cobra?
Starting point is 00:39:22 It's a dope car. Yeah. And they're talking about it, keeping it around to 2018. And I looked at the numbers, like the zero to 60 numbers, and they're really great. Hell yeah. It's like 4.1 with the stick, 3.9 with the automatic. And they have a 10-speed automatic. I'm like, what a badass car.
Starting point is 00:39:37 But then you compare it to that. You're like, this is- Oh, that thing just- What do you drive? Boom. Who makes shitty cars? It's just a little baby car. Not a lot of shitty cars out there?
Starting point is 00:39:46 You can't really make shitty cars anymore. Can't get away with it anymore. There's too many... Look, they're making new cars constantly. That's one of the craziest things about cars. They need consistent innovation. Every year, their 0-60 time gets better, their G-Force get better, their mile per gallon get better, their feature list get better.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Miles per gallon. It's always around 30. It's been 30 since I was 12. Okay, but a Porsche Twin Turbo gets 30. One of the fastest cars on the planet. All-wheel drive S. But all cars run 30. Not really.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Not really. If you don't drive it like 24. It gets like fucking Billy Bata. That's a super car that gets 24 miles a gallon. Pull up 991 911 Turbo miles a gallon. Pull up 991-911 turbo miles per gallon. By now, cars should be 200 miles to the gallon by now. It's still the same bullshit. Uh-oh, I smell a conspiracy theory coming up.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Oh, no. Did you say miles per gallon? It's like if you see him getting ready to go for the twister roll, he might give you a little tell. You see the setup. You know I'm crazy. You know I'm crazy. You know you know okay he almost went with it with the indians you guys believe that oh you believe that and then i went uh was there ever an indian
Starting point is 00:40:52 in the u.s the indians would have led in the slaves the indians would have led in the slaves that's that's a key and peel movie right there black indians they did up letting big dicks in the teepee yeah it'll be different it'll be different now folks your girls like I will but I wonder how many I wonder how common that that was. And I wonder whether it was white people or whether it was white Europeans or slaves who bred with Indians more. And were they racist towards the river? Dude, I'm telling you, they escaped to the Indians. What is it, 22? Where else are they going to go?
Starting point is 00:41:37 27 Highway, 20 City. For a supercar? Oh, it's amazing. No, don't get me wrong. Look, that car might be the best car in the world. If you think about the best all-around car. Hands down. 911 Turbo, you drive that thing, it drives like a regular car.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It feels great. It's smooth over bumps and shit. It's the dampening system that they have. It's all electronically controlled. It seems to be able to predict what the ground is like. It adjusts to different bumps in the road really well. The best. Hey, that was 2015. I'm talking about two on eight teams they're
Starting point is 00:42:07 even better that was 2015 so you think you got better than that it got a few miles per gallon right yeah man but those cars are 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds it's best card on the road I think we'll drive for pound money from yeah it's the best they just look man there's something about Japanese engineering and German engineering that is hard to fuck with. I don't fuck with the Japanese. They never break.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Hashtag no races. They never break. I buy Japanese cars all the time. That's like my always- Yeah, I love Lexus. Because it's like, you know, when you get in that fucking thing, every time you press that button, it's starting up. It's going to start.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Every time. Yeah. Every time. You bought a fancy Toyota. I got a Tundra. Watch your mouth. It's Toyota in drag. Nothing wrong with Toyota. I'm just saying. It's comfy, dude. Compared to German, though? No, no, no. Just chilling that day. Tundra, baby. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:42:54 German? The interior on German cars? The best. Yeah. Well, their engineering is so sporty, too. Like, the Japanese don't really make a car like a 911 GT3. They don't really make that. They make these track cars that work really fast on the track, like the Nissan GTR. But that's, like, super electronic.
Starting point is 00:43:13 When you get in that thing. It's like a spaceship. Dude, that thing is incredible. That thing, like, levels you out. Like, when you go in to take turns, you actually feel it flatten the body out with electronics. It turns like this. Like, you can make a hard turn, and there's no body lean. It's weird. feel it flatten the body out with electronics it turns like this like you're you can make a hard turn and there's no body lean it's weird what
Starting point is 00:43:29 else and then the Acura NSX dad the new ones insane the new NSX is insane two hybrid engines in the front wheels first-row weapons grade 911 was to say there what's the amount of ground 2029 wow yeah 29 Porsche 911 it's my fave it's a beast car those are super reliable too for the most part so reliable but it's just the engineering has to get better and better every year so they're sharpening this razor's edge they're developing these cars that like like there's there's skid pad numbers that used to be ridiculous like 1g and a skid pad like god it to be ridiculous. Like, 1G on a skid pad. Like, God, it would have to be like a Ferrari F40 or something like that, you know?
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah. Now you get that shit out of a BMW M3. Like, everything does a G on the skid pad. And those Corvettes, like Grand Sport Corvettes, they do ridiculous. You ever see the Viper ACR? Fuck yes. You can just buy a fucking 660 horsepower race car from Viper. I'd be lying if I didn't say I was online last night looking at them.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Last night? To buy one all cash. How about, I've done it three nights a week for a month. Three nights a week for a month. It's tough not to pull the trigger. I've watched every fucking Viper video they have. It's the most retarded American car ever. It literally butt fucks the Demon.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Because it's so ridiculous. The Demon still looks like a challenger. I agree. This thing's insane. Pull up Viper ACR. 2017 Viper ACR. You pull up in this thing and people next to you are just like, you know what, fuck you, man.
Starting point is 00:44:54 How about that? They're like, fuck you. What are you doing? What are you doing? Is this Fast and Furious? Look at the wing on that fucking thing. That is an insane car. And it's breaking records at every single racetrack all over the world.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Have you heard it, too? It sounds like a goddamn American car. Oh, it's amazing. See, that one right there is a regular Viper, which is still pretty dope. But just look for the Viper SRT-ACR. The SRT-ACR is the crazy one. That's the one that they just built for racing. There's a markup on it, too.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Oh, fucking for sure. Actually, I heard they're having a hard time selling them. Well, it makes sense. Yeah, because people are like, enough. Trump's president and this. Well, you remember when the Vipers first came out? It's 500 horsepower, 500 pounds of torque, and there's so many crashes. Because guys just don't know how to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:45:40 They go around the corners and just fucking tailspin it. Also, they didn't have anti-lock brakes. The old Vipers had nothing. I rented an old Viper once. Beat the fuck deal with it. They go around the corners and just fucking tailspin it. Also, they didn't have anti-lock brakes. The old Vipers had nothing. I rented an old Viper once. Beat the fuck out of it. I know. I want to buy one just to fuck around LA. Didn't the Viper save Dodge?
Starting point is 00:45:54 Like, for a while, Dodge was in shambles. They were considered, like, vanilla ice of cars, right? Yeah. See, there it is with the extreme aero package. That's such a good-looking car. That extreme aero package. They literally have a good looking car. That extreme aero package. They literally have a giant race car wing in the back of it, but it's so ferocious looking. You need that though, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Look at you, you're so excited. I know. This is a car that girls will get mad at you if you buy. Like your wife, your wife will be like, Brendan, what the fuck? That's like buying, like getting bigger tits. Yeah. You'd be like, what are you trying to do? Cause I'm gonna be awesome.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Look at that fucking thing Look at that Stop right there In red I usually don't like a red car Back that bitch up I love the way that thing looks Red
Starting point is 00:46:31 That's a That's a badass fucking car That thing is so hard That is about as American As it gets I mean it's so much more Badass looking Than a Corvette
Starting point is 00:46:40 Oh way more And a Corvette's Pretty badass looking Corvettes don't do it for me I like the new ones But i don't fuck with them you know at the end of the day man it's like we're still little boys fuck yeah well you said you look at them three times a week literally last night i was like god should i just buy one it doesn't make any sense it makes no sense look at that thing it's a beast it's such a beast it must be so Fun. Yeah, at the end of the day, it's fun. It's just a different kind of experience.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Nothing gets about negative three miles a gallon. Well, they're really big, too. Here's the other thing about them. They're wide, and they have this really long hood. It's not like- Like a giant engine. Yeah, it's not like you're- When you're driving a Porsche, one of the weird things about it is it's rear engine,
Starting point is 00:47:21 so your front end, you get a really good, clear view of the road. You remember that NSX that I had, Eddie? That silver NSX? Yeah, you had one? Yeah, dude, I love that thing. To this day, I reminisce about that car. You should have hung on to it. Again, start every time.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Not a fucking problem ever. Have you had problems? Like, I haven't had a lot of problems. Yeah, I had a Porsche that shit out on me a bunch of times. No, what year? 911 Turbo 2002. It did a lot of problems. The Turbos.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Ballin' for a long time. 996. You told me ballin' for a long time. I was a decade of ballin' hard. You have a Supra II in 93 or what the fuck? I did. No, you didn't. No, I had a Toyota Supra Turbo in 1994.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Really? Yeah. Are you fucking with me? No, I'm not fucking with you. You had a silver Turbo. Damn, you've been killing it for a grip, son. I'm just fucking walked in the door. I had a Dodge Caravan.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Years ago, you had an M6. You had an M6, and I spent every goddamn dime I had to get punched in the face on that thing, and it was used. Very different approach. Oh, I was hood rich for a while there. That's what I had. I had one of those. That's one of the greatest cars of all time. I had a silver one. They're worth a lot of money now, too. Very different approach. Oh, that's hood rich for a while there. That's what I had. I had one of those. That's one of the greatest cars of all time.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I had a silver one. They're worth a lot of money now, too. It's crazy. Well, they're something special, man. Why don't they redo those? Hey, Toyota, jump on it. I know, right? Come up with a new one.
Starting point is 00:48:37 A new Super? I think they are. I think they are, as a matter of fact. But it's just, you know, there's something nostalgic that Porsche's figured out how to capture, where they have a look that it looks like a 911. Every time these guys do it, they have to start from scratch. It's like a new fucking car. Because remember back then it was the Toyota Supra, the RX-7.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Those were like the ones. The RX-7 and then there was the Mitsubishi GT3000. I like that one. Look at that shit. Go back to that black one. That's the same car. This is the new one. Holy shit. I take back what I said. This one the same car. This is the new one. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I take back what I said. This one's doper. If they actually come out with this, does this say- This says FT1 digital. Get that shit out of my- Is that a real image or is that a computer created image? That's computer shit. Is it?
Starting point is 00:49:18 It's hard to tell. They're so good at it now. I know. You know? I mean, damn. Oh, it looks like it's real. Concept. God damn it. FT1. But is that a concept? Is that oh it looks like it's real concept god damn it one but as that a concept is that oh it's it's all bullshit you can change the colors of it and everything oh weak
Starting point is 00:49:31 sauce and that's colored oh god colors are gross just give people like that viper shit on that how about the fans in the front like the paint and the color makes no difference. Well, it does with some cars. Some cars just look goofy certain colors. Like, have you ever seen a yellow Ferrari? And you're like, relax, buddy. I just scream and I have a small dick. If you have a yellow Ferrari, I'm like, all right, dude, I get it. You're single.
Starting point is 00:49:56 You do spray tans. A black Ferrari, you might have like a crib in downtown LA where you have incense burning before people even walk in. Dicking people down. Yeah. You're dicking people down in like one of those warehouse apartments. Yes. You know those types with like velour curtains.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Fascisticated. Yeah. Velour curtains and you have a little wine fridge. You know your shit. Yeah. You know your shit. Dress well. Probably a good dude.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Like one of them movies where like the dude is like a secret scientist and he lives in a loft and he's got like his couch in the middle of the loft with like a carpet there but everything else is that polished cement. Doesn't have a TV, doesn't have time to watch TV. TV's for pussies. Only wine.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I'm out here reading books and doing Kung Fu. And fucking. And fucking everything that comes in that door. But you get a yellow and a green one? No, sir.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You're up in the Hollywood Hills, you probably got herpes, you're just an asshole. Yeah, man. You can't have a fucking yellow Ferrari. No, same. They won't even let you in downtown with a yellow Ferrari. Fuck, no.
Starting point is 00:50:50 They're like, bro, you got to be more noir. You got to be darker and more mysterious. Yeah, it's weird, man. Take your windows. It's weird. Yeah, there's certain things about certain color cars. But then there's classics. Like if a guy has like a 1971 red Porsche.
Starting point is 00:51:06 No. Beautiful car. Love it, man. It's a classic color. If it's in red, it's a classic color. But like a brand new red car, like it's got to be like that Viper. It has to be undeniable. It has to be certain cars. And you know, even Porsche, because when I bought my Porsche, it was red. He goes, you know, they don't
Starting point is 00:51:22 make a lot of these because a lot of people don't want red. They don't want the attention. Your insurance higher the cops look for you like it's classic they're like people are going away from it it is weird red is like a go fuck you look what about those magnum pi red ferraris are they classics now are people bringing those back was it those gt350 gt40 gt is that it is? Are they bringing those back? They're classics now, right? They should be. They're worth a lot of money. Are they? I wanted to buy a Testarossa.
Starting point is 00:51:49 DeLoreans? Are they back? They must be back. DeLoreans are back. Mr. Steal Yo Girl. That's what I'm talking about. There he is. Damn, no socks.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Oh! Slinging dick with an old school cop mustache. God damn, has those boat shoes on, just that fat dick in the front. Powerful Magnum PI doesn't even care if his feet stink. He's got a sling dick. Sling dick with stinky shoes. I would drive that right now. Isn't he gay?
Starting point is 00:52:12 He's not gay? No. How dare you? He's super conservative. He's super conservative. I didn't know. He's the guy that got on Rosie O'Donnell's show and she famously sort of attacked him for supporting the MRA and connecting him to shootings.
Starting point is 00:52:26 He's one of the greatest Americans of all time. I understand what she was trying to do. And I understand her sentiment. I met Rosie O'Donnell and I did her show and I think she's a nice person. She's funny. I just think that things like that are ill-advised. You know, and that people got real mad at her, man. All those fucking NRA people.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Dude, if you talk anti-Second Amendment, they come with the force. Hell yeah. They fucking come after you. Good. Yeah. Well, if they didn't, they would have lost the right a long time ago. There's a lot of people that would like to take those rights away. So my boy Tom Selleck went on there looking like a dime piece talking about guns?
Starting point is 00:52:59 Tom Selleck didn't go on there to talk about guns. He went on there to talk about something else. He was promoting something, and she wanted to bring up the nra and you know he was upset about it but i think if you're talking about uh gun violence like there's a lot of there's a lot of factors when it comes to gun violence and you can get really crazy but one of them is that it's all men how about that how about we just ban all men because all men are responsible for mass shootings it's fucking all men it's never chicks so what do we do we ban all men because responsible for mass shootings. It's fucking all men. It's never chicks. So what do we do?
Starting point is 00:53:26 We ban all men? Because without the men, the guns don't even work. Okay, we're not banning all men. So should we ban all guns? Yeah, we should definitely ban all guns. Okay, well, if we're going to ban all guns, how come only a certain percentage of the guns get used in these crimes? What about all those other people that are lawful, law-abiding Americans
Starting point is 00:53:42 who are kind and peaceful and keep John guns for personal security or for hunting do we take them away from them and who just gets to decide that's where the problem lay the problem doesn't lay in the idea that she's stepping in because she's got this thing in front of her and she sees it's a problem she wants to talk about the problem the problem is that the problem is multifaceted and it's not just all men the number of these men that are medicated on
Starting point is 00:54:05 pharmaceutical drugs is fucking staggering and then they say correlation does not equal causation so you can't assume that just because someone's on pills that that makes people shoot people but damn it's close it's a tough road there's something in there there's something going on there you're you psychoactive drugs are responsible for some changes in your behavior that's a fact that's undeniable how much is debatable and how much of these disassociative sort of drugs allow people to just like blank out and go and do wacky shit different people with different brain chemistry who the fuck knows did you see the facebook killer he actually committed suicide today but he was going around killing people
Starting point is 00:54:44 doing it live on Facebook. And they were saying people were upset at Facebook going, what the fuck? May you allow him to do this? And like, yeah, we're going to change some of the rules. But then the cops said that he didn't do that. It wasn't streaming. He uploaded it later. And so they're like, well, you know, we'll watch that more.
Starting point is 00:55:00 But then I saw a cop was like, it actually helps us. But then I saw a cop was like, it actually helps us. Like if he didn't commit suicide, like there's times where there's been other crimes that people do and they air it live or upload it to Facebook or they rob a bank and post like hood rich with cash and it actually helps the cops track them down. So like, I don't know if you should go away with it because they're going to kill regardless. Now they're just, you know, they can upload it on YouTube or wherever. They might take it down, but they're like, we shouldn't stop it because it's actually helping them a little bit. Yeah, it's a good excuse to go in there and control the Internet.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I mean, who knows? It sounds like that could easily be a false flag. Is there any? Well, it's not a false flag. There's definitely a dead guy and there's definitely a guy who killed himself. Yeah, I saw the video. I think more often than there being false flags is an event happens and people try to take advantage of that event. Correct.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And they try to make it easier on themselves, especially law enforcement might try to make it easy on themselves and enforce laws. Especially politicians might take it as an opportunity to push their agenda that their constituents want. There's a lot of factors when it comes into dealing with any kind of gun violence. But it's a multifaceted issue and you don't take it up with Tom Selleck. Okay. Magnum fucking PI is not the reason why they're school shooters. Don't attack Magnum PI. Because he has a lawful gun permit and because he joined the NRA because he believes in the
Starting point is 00:56:16 right to keep and bear arms. The real problem is people that are willing to kill a bunch of other people. It's not the guns. It's not that they're men. It's not neither one of those two incredibly common factors, guns and men. I always think it's weird, too. Whenever there's a shooter like with this Facebook fucking killer in Ohio, everyone's like, oh, mental illness.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Yeah. God, I don't know if you can just chalk up to mental illness all the time. Mental illness that's medicated, too, by the way. Sometimes. And then sometimes he's just a fuck there's a lot of bad apples too man he's just a bad dude like when he was on there and why i watched also went down a weird rabbit hole on easter but when he was he was on there just talking you know coherently being like you know i've worked at this job forever people always
Starting point is 00:56:57 shit on me my girl just broke up with me i'm fucking sick of this man i'm gonna go around killing people because i'm pissed off at the world fuck this yeah well the problem is someone who has that attitude lacks empathy and it's not normal so the question is like how does someone get to that stage where they're completely void of empathy that's what scares the fuck out of people what doesn't scare the fuck out of people is that people are willing to kill defend their loved ones or any of that shit what bothers people is people that don't have any empathy people that want to go fuck the world or fuck you and fuck everything and then just hurt people and laugh. But would he be that way if he didn't get
Starting point is 00:57:30 whatever his co-workers were picking on him? Who knows? Like, is it a mental illness because he was getting picked on? Or is it this is his backlash to that bullying or his girl breaking up with him because he was a small dick and he was fat? There's a lot of factors there that could be a part of the overall problem. You know what I'm saying? He might just be a bad apple, man, and just was like, fuck this.
Starting point is 00:57:47 The world, this world sucks, man. It's possible. I think we just, my whole thing here is I just think we chalk up mental illness too easily. Well, I think what you're talking about, though, is mental illness. I mean, what I'm saying is that anybody that's willing to kill people like that is mentally ill. And you could say, like, how to define it.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Is it herpes? That's tough. You know, is it the flu? But I think the lack of empathy is in itself a disconnect from the human race and can make you mentally ill. You could classify someone as mentally ill. The problem is anybody could be mentally ill if you get born in the wrong situation. You get abused. You grow up fucked up.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Your brain is all hardwired to, you're stressed out all the time. All the people around you are all fucking crazy. And you're just, your cortisol levels are off the charts. We all have the potential to lose our fucking mind. All of us do. Or, you know, you grew up desensitized where you see the struggles of life. It's like life doesn't mean shit. You see your friends shot and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:58:45 You're like, ah, this, this sucks, man. Who cares? And I think it's super important that we, we have empathy for people like that. We understand that that could have easily been us. You know, people get born into terrible, terrible situations. Eddie Bravo, what are you eating over there, bro? What you got, bro? What you got, bro?
Starting point is 00:59:02 What you got, bro? Oh, that's one of them peanut butter bars. Those are delish. Those are good, man. What are they? They're called RX Bars. Three egg whites, 14 peanuts, two dates, no BS. That's all that's in there.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Those are legit. Those are good. Is there better than that one? RX Bar. I like the peanut butter myself, but I like that dark chocolate one you ate, too. You couldn't handle it? Well, yeah. Too much for you?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Too much flavor? It's a little too much. I like it. Yeah. I like fucked dark chocolate one you ate, too. You couldn't handle it? Well, yeah. Too much for you? Too much flavor? It's a little too much. I like it. Yeah. I like fucked up flavors, though. I'm convinced that what one person tastes, I don't taste. I'm just fucking convinced. Well, I like real bitter stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Like, my coffee, I like it, like, super strong. Like, Calum tried it. He's like, dude, this tastes like cigarette ashes. I'm like, yeah, I like it super. Like, I like real bitter, like, coffee. I like a strong coffee, too. I like a good, a dark roast. Yeah, son. That light roast, get the fuck out of my, you mean iced tea? Yeah, I get super bummed out when someone pours me and I see the coffee going in and I can see through it. Me too. I'm like, oh,
Starting point is 00:59:57 this place sucks. Bitch ass diner coffee. Get that weak ass lemonade out of my fucking face. Get that tea out of my goddamn coffee cup. Exactly. Sometimes it looks like tea. I can tell on the... I'm like, all right, I'm gonna get the fuck out of here. You know what I got, man? One of those... You know those Nespresso things?
Starting point is 01:00:11 You have those little capsules? I'm a purist, man. I don't fuck with Nespresso. I like them. You know why? Because you can make espresso like that. You can make espresso like that. Like, you're out there fucking with a spoon and a tap, tap, tap on the top.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Fucking with a spoon. You out there fucking with a spoon and tap tap tap on the top you make an espresso with a nespresso for someone who drives a tesla like is that like you know what i'm saying like i like a french press like a goddamn gangster it's dark as fuck i pour it little almond milk i take three espressos from a nespresso i don't fuck with three of those they're bad for the environment too it's great for my stomach enjoy it why is it bad for the Nespresso's from a Nespresso. I don't fuck with It's great for my stomach Why is it bad for the environment of birds? Yeah, the guy who created those Craig things in the Nespresso They can't recycle them and there's nothing you do with them. He's like I fucked up I wish I could stop it, but he gave the the Formula to someone who ran with it off the Nespresso. They should make a
Starting point is 01:01:03 the formula to someone who ran with it, obviously Nespresso. They should make it biodegradable, right? They should, and they didn't, and now it's fucking people up. Do you know that they could do that easily with almost everything that we make with hemp? But they just refuse to because they want the cotton business?
Starting point is 01:01:14 Right now, they don't have a full hold. Eddie just grabbed that microphone. He's like, we're about to spit knowledge. Okay, you guys got the cars? I just saw this. I saw Eddie go. Did someone say hemp? Did someone say cotton business?
Starting point is 01:01:28 Someone said conspiracy and hemp in one sentence. He was like, I'm on board. You know what? I was sitting here thinking, damn, this podcast has so much power. You're going to bring back cars. You're getting me into cars like shit. What do you mean bring back cars? Cars never went anywhere
Starting point is 01:01:45 They're fucking here man Or make it cool For younger people Oh dude Younger people love cars Everybody loves cars Everybody If you raise them right
Starting point is 01:01:52 Okay I thought only rich people Liked cars That is one thing That is true Cause I did ignore cars When I was broke I was like
Starting point is 01:01:59 That is out of question Really you went to see a car I'm like god damn I need a cooler drive No I just cut that part Of my head And then once I started Making some money
Starting point is 01:02:04 I was like Oh losing up the reins Let's see here be cool to drive. No, I'd just cut that part of my head. And then once I started making some money, I was like, oh, loosen up the reins. Let's see here, man. Time to go back to what I enjoy. When I was a kid, I had a bunch of muscle cars. I had a gang of different kind of muscle cars. That's all I drove. I mean, broke people that know everything about sports cars and the latest shit?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Damn. That wasn't you, right? When I was a kid, I knew a lot about muscle cars. I didn't know a lot about Porsches or Ferraris. Those all seemed way out of range. But I'd know a lot about 69 Mustangs, 1970 Barracudas, that kind of shit. I loved all those muscle cars. I did know about Porsches because my stepdad was the best Porsche mechanic in Newport Beach.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Damn. Your stepdad was killing it. My stepdad was the shit as a mechanic. He worked in Newport Beach. And so I knew about Porsches through him. Like, I knew what a 911 was when I was eight years old. 928, 944. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:55 You know, I was kind of hip to it just because of him. There was this one guy at the strip club that used to show up. Because, you know, there was that 924. Those were the cheap ones. Yeah. He would switch it. He made it, he put a nine 28 and he would drive to the strip club and tell girls he had a nine 28 and get, and get, and get the girls.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Oh, wait a minute. He said he had a nine 44, but you know, the nine 24s are the low level ones. The nine 24s were the low level ones. Right. And the nine 44 was like, you know, rich, rich guys. You pull up in a nine 59. You get getting dudes suck your dick, guys, girls. 959, I missed that one. I didn't know there was a 959.
Starting point is 01:03:31 There was a dude that I used to work with on news radio who was a cameraman who got a 924 and would race it. And he said it was one of the best cars for racing because it was really well-balanced. It didn't have a lot of power, but he knew a lot about racing cars. He must have. Yeah, he's like, they don't have a lot of power but he knew a lot about racing cars he must have yeah he's like they don't have a lot of power but the thing is around racetracks it's more about handling than it is about power until you get to those like crazy high-end 911 turbo four-wheel drive motherfuckers that kind of shit those things are just ridiculous you know the the new 911 turbo the wheels turn the back wheels turn so when you're going around a corner. Yeah the back wheels They they turn and make the corner shorter
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah, damn, dude, and it they turn the opposite way in parking lots to make it so you can you can pull into spots easier The best yeah like you're turning radius is off the charts ridiculous. There's the engineering man You guys gonna get into helicopters and shit no man. That's too About that shit helicopter. That's too risky. Helicopters. Bill Burr drives a helicopter. Think about that shit. Helicopters. What's more balling than that? I don't have helicopter money. You've had Bill Burr on? Bill Burr flies helicopters. Oh, that's right, huh? Yeah. He gets places like he goes from, he's got a helicopter
Starting point is 01:04:35 pad in his house. He did a gig in San Diego and he flew a helicopter out of LA and flew it down to San Diego with his instructor. Is it a Magnum PI helicopter? Like the little bubble one? Or are we talking about
Starting point is 01:04:48 like fucking Marine One shit? I don't think you can get a Marine One for rental. Bill Burr might. Well, he makes good money, but he's not stupid. Is he the number one comedian in the world right now?
Starting point is 01:04:56 No, Kevin Hart is. I'm saying as far as funny-wise. He's probably up there. It's him or Chappelle or Louis C.K. That's probably the battle, but Bill's right up there. Dude, I watched you and it's him or Chappelle or Louis CK There was that's probably the battle You and I watched him back to back of the comic store and I was just like not not it's so inspiring But his shit I was laughing so hard man Dude, he's so fucking some of his new shit that I want to say the premise, but it's so good I do I was laughing the premises.'m like of course man that's fucking brilliant
Starting point is 01:05:25 and then i watched you i you know i see at the store at times so i'll watch your sets and i was baffled how just i i you know i'm new to it so i don't how you went from you did three sets i'm followed along with your three sets how you changed them like on the go well i'm trying to figure out the right way to do it it's good but it's bad because sometimes you go the wrong way because i fuck around so much because I change my material so much. I change the approach. I try to change how I set it up. I try to figure out what's the best way to do it.
Starting point is 01:05:52 And I feel like once I settle in on one way, I'll hone that one way. But I don't even know if that's the right way. So I try different ways. And sometimes those ways take me nowhere. But that's how you know, though, right? Yeah. But that's what the store is for. You know, the store, like what I'm doing is to try and shit out that was cool to see though doing a set like once you do a special
Starting point is 01:06:09 then the the months after the special it's like like some of your materials fucking shaky you know and it'll eventually hammer together but on nights some nights it's perfect and on some nights you don't really have the approach correct it's like you're coming in for a landing like i saw uh uh chris rock get up there and just like riff literally he was just like what and you could tell he just had nothing he was just going and it's awfully brilliant still well you've always been you know very few people have seen you live more than me very few people for a few years there i saw you live pretty much every time you you did a show and um you have your bits that are worked out and some that you're working out um but every night you went up and you mixed it totally different like a dj they were the same bits and you were
Starting point is 01:07:01 working on them but um it was a different mix every night. You never did shit in a row. There was nothing. It was all you just flowing. The problem with that is when you do two shows and you're on the second show, you're like, what the fuck did I say? Have I done this one yet? Or was it the earlier show? You got to write it down, right?
Starting point is 01:07:19 Totally. No, the second show just got to be more rigid. Every show is a different mix. You don't ever do the same shit twice. It's a different mix. I don't know if you've changed recently because of all your specials, but every show, I've never saw the same show twice. Never.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Same bits, but always mixed in and always a different segue. It was fun for you. I thought that was just. Definitely that's part of it. You want to keep it fresh, but it's all about trying to figure out what the right way to do it is and you know i gotta try like eight wrong ways to get the right way i'll tell you what else was crazy is i'm reading that judd apatow book sick in the head and he uh they came i was going on same show and they come in like hey um judd's
Starting point is 01:08:00 gonna jump on before i'm like who's judd like apatow like oh like, Abital. I'm like, oh, shit. And he walks back. You know, you don't want to be that fucking dick sucker. But we just started talking. I didn't know how cool he was going to be. I don't know anything about him besides that book and his movies. And then I was sitting there, and he's like, you got a pen, man? I'm like, I don't. And then we started talking.
Starting point is 01:08:17 He was super cool. And then I was just like, dude, your book? And then we just got into the book. He was the nicest guy ever, man. He's very, very nice. He's super down to earth. Easy to talk to. People don't realize that he wrote for roseanne barr tom arnold like adam sandler like he's wrote for a ton of guys which i find is interesting because he's a stand-up comic but
Starting point is 01:08:35 he would write for other people that's just because he's not a performer so you'd rather just write for them it's like why not do it yourself well i think he just was real busy i think when you're producing movies and stuff and doing all the shit that he did i don't think he had the time to go to the clubs yeah and to do stand up right you got to go to the clubs you got to fuck around like like that other night that i'm talking about we were talking about rather where you see me doing all these different sets everybody does that you know if you see louis at the improv you'll see him later that night at the store you know these guys are they're hopping on and they're they're trying to mix stuff up and doesn't doesn't louie say that you you to get really good at stamp should only be doing that that's what he said the other night we were talking
Starting point is 01:09:12 he said he'd only he'd been doing nothing but stand up for the last two years and he was saying you know what you could be good and do other stuff but to really be your best you have to do only stand up and i'm like i think you're right i think he's right i mean it makes sense would you be happy doing just stand up though i would always do a podcast i think i mean i don't think you would have to just get rid of podcasting i feel like it helps you with ideas the ufc would definitely i would definitely have to get rid of the ufc yes and i think that's probably going to happen eventually anyway but the the thing that you get from podcasting is you almost get like an education because i it's a it's a pretty um peripheral education when it turns certain things that
Starting point is 01:09:50 people say to me because i'm listening to say it and it blows me away but i only retain a certain percentage of it unless i listen to the pot like lawrence krauss he's a um theoretical physicist that i had on he was trying to explain some theories to me. And I was, my stupid brain was just not taking it in. And then, you know, uh, I had Dennis McKenna on yesterday who's, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:10 psychedelic pioneer. And he's, uh, what is his, his ethno botanist. And he's a professor. I mean, he's a fucking insanely smart guy.
Starting point is 01:10:19 So I'd have to listen to that two or three times. He was explaining to me the, um, the reason why certain drugs work so well like in particular mushrooms and he was explained pulled up like a molecule chart who's explaining to us the difference between the molecules that are connected to psilocybin versus the molecules that make dmt it's really just one thing off oh it's off the charts deep so but i feel like those kind of conversations, they make me smarter.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Yeah. They make me more aware of shit. Yeah. Which is great for stand-up. It's better for stand-up, yeah. I'll tell you who's a smart motherfucker to change lanes here, but I had a meeting with Aubrey Marcus. You know, I know Aubrey like you does, a friend, and we've done some business together. And we're in this meeting, and I looked looked down and said what kind of fucking alpha brain
Starting point is 01:11:05 are you taking he came in a suit was all and just started spitting all like god damn there's a reason why he's at where he's at me he's a smart dude he's very tuned i mean i obviously didn't think he was a stupid human being but he was dropping some fucking knowledge yeah give me whatever you're taking he's very smart and He also he knows a ton especially from this business about Nutrient absorption yes what yet like you know certain foods that you can eat where you really only absorb Some around the nutrients if it's connected to fats and things like he's an expert on that shit He knows a lot about it man. His mom was a she was like a naturopath or something like that Was she yeah something like that? Yeah?
Starting point is 01:11:46 naturopath or something like that was she yeah something like that uh but he's he's been pretty knowledgeable about that kind of stuff for a long time he's a unique dude there's a lot of you know we're really lucky we know a lot of really unique people you know faux show silence pure silence let's talk about more unique you ever see those Kim Jong-un videos of people worshipping him like he's the Beatles you have to
Starting point is 01:12:09 have you seen those you have to did you see the one it's almost it's almost too ridiculous like they are chasing him through the streets
Starting point is 01:12:18 and soldiers acting like little girls it's amazing it's unbelievable they have to
Starting point is 01:12:24 yeah they literally have to. Yeah, they literally have to or you get killed. They gotta put on that show, kid. Man. Did you ever see his thing? North Korea's fascinating. It's very fascinating how that,
Starting point is 01:12:33 like, it's... It's a terrible place. Mind-boggling, North Korea is. It's amazing that it's real. Watch those videos of people worshipping him.
Starting point is 01:12:41 And then you watch, there's documentaries of people going in, they get inside, and they're like constantly being guided through North Korea. There's people with them. There's a fake set. There's fake sets.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Yeah, wait a minute. And most people think, look, they're so communist, they're putting on, this is like a, yeah, they're putting on a show. It's obvious that they're giving them a tour of the city, but they're being guided the whole way through. They got people on them, and they're being guided the whole way through. They got people on them, and they're not allowed to do shit. Did you see Shane Smith's thing when he went to North Korea?
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah. Nice. Crazy. So most people are thinking, man, they're so communist or whatever, or the dictatorship is so strong there that, look, they won't even let people walk around freely. You know, it's like, it just seems like, is that, what the fuck is going on? I don't know. I don't know. You think there's a conspiracy in the conspiracy?
Starting point is 01:13:36 I think maybe. Is this a double negative? Is this a fucking double cross? Oh, they're testing missiles? Did you see that shit? Yeah, did you see that? It blew up. Have you seen the parade?
Starting point is 01:13:47 Show the clip of the parade where they show them, like the soldiers marching in a parade. They're flexing on us. And then they're bringing out the missiles. They said they're ready to go to war. They'll show that. And then they'll cut the Jim Hong Wong or Kim Jong Un with his generals. Like there's a clip of... They're kind of watching
Starting point is 01:14:07 and then they cut back to the parade and it's the same clip and then they go back to Kim Jong-un. I don't know. You're not buying it. I think... Well, here's what you have. Before you go any further, let me just explain what stock footage is. I think it's a distraction. They use stock footage when they have stories
Starting point is 01:14:23 on these guys and they use it all the time. Where they don't have footage of the guy currently, so they have a story about Kim Jong-un, they start talking about him and then they show stock footage. That stock footage could be him talking to his general.
Starting point is 01:14:33 No, but this piece was North Korea releases video. I understand. That's what it was. It was like, this is their video. The motherfuckers are trained just to move like that, though. Dude, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:43 There's something. It's a communist dictatorship. They have fake cities and shit. Yeah. Well, that's China. China has more than... China has reproduced... And North Korea does, too.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Right off the border. They have like... To entice the people of the South to come to North Korea. Well, they had probably a bunch of failed ideas. I don't know, man. I think... I think North Korea really needs to be looked into. You think it's fake?
Starting point is 01:15:03 We're about to go to war with them, son. You think North Korea's fake? I'm not saying it's fake. I'm just saying that... You don't believe in North Korea? looked into. You think it's fake? We're about to go to war with them, son. You think North Korea's fake? I'm not saying it's fake. I'm just saying that it's fake. I'm just saying that Kim Jong-un could eat. He might be part of it. I think they're all buddies. I think at the very top, the top of Russia, the top of the United States, the UK, they're just putting on a show.
Starting point is 01:15:20 And he's designated villain when we need to distract people from this or that. Kim Jong-un is testing missiles. He's testing missiles. He's going to fire off one in China. It's very possible that we've changed our foreign policy and that we're getting more aggressive with them
Starting point is 01:15:42 and this is their response. They also are very incompetent because they're a terrified... What they are essentially is a military dictatorship. They're a terrified population. I get it. And their science is shitty. They don't have any fucking money.
Starting point is 01:15:54 But we're getting all this from the mainstream media. So it can't be the truth. But we're getting this from everywhere. You can't always assume that everything from the mainstream media is not true because here's the deal. If something does happen, that's a real thing that happens, the mainstream media is always going to cover it. What is he?
Starting point is 01:16:10 He's going to have test weapons? Stop and listen to me here, because this is important. Just because something's in the mainstream media, and I know you distrust the mainstream media, doesn't mean that it's not true. Because you always have to realize that if something happens, say like Mount St. Helens blows, right? Lava flowing down the street, a bunch of people die. If that's a real natural disaster that we all know happens, Fox News is going to cover that. CNN is going to cover that.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Everybody is going to cover that. Not everything that they cover is fake. Not everything that they cover is fake. So if North Korea does try to launch a missile and it does fail, everyone is going to cover that. So just because CNN has something on or Fox News has something on, it doesn't mean that it's fake. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I'm totally with you. I'm just saying. Watch those videos. Who told you that on the show? Look into North Korea. Who's the king of conspiracy theories? Alex Jones. Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Do you see him? He's like, yo, I'm just playing a character, man. Yeah. Like, that ain't real. His lawyer said that. Yeah. That's what I would say about his lawyer, too. Dude, they're going to take his kids.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Me, too. I would do it, too. I would say. But even he was like, dude, I'm just saying some shit saying some shit to get mr. Jones belongs to a country club. Mr Jones is an outstanding citizen and he is essentially just a really really popular Phil Hendry. He's a animated He was like I'm just put on performance man. I don't believe that shit performance artist. He says I don't believe that shit What did he say word-for-word? believe that shit?
Starting point is 01:17:21 No. He said it like that? What did he say word for word? Where'd you get your news? There's a big difference. He didn't say it. I'm just playing a character. I don't believe that shit.
Starting point is 01:17:30 That's what I heard. You're working him up. I see what you're doing. He's working you up, man. I'm just saying the savior of conspiracy theories was like, it's a performance.
Starting point is 01:17:36 I'm out. I'm just saying, have fun. Do a little investigation. He did apologize for Pizzagate. He did apologize. Don't be... He apologized for Pizzagate. He did apologize. Don't be.
Starting point is 01:17:46 He apologized for Pizzagate. He was like, that ain't real. No, no, no. They were suing him. They were going after him. So if you listen to him, he's reading a statement like, don't come after me. They were going after him. They're trying to shut him down.
Starting point is 01:17:57 That's what's going on. He totally knows that. Anyways, he's watching his ass. They're coming after him. That's what's going on. Hashtag Tower 7. Anyways. Anyways. Towel 7
Starting point is 01:18:05 Tower Towel DC Gates I get what you're saying Pizza Gate I'm just saying Have fun Look into North Korea
Starting point is 01:18:12 It's fucking hysterical Dude It's hysterical I think I think He's just playing a character Looking into But Eddie
Starting point is 01:18:20 There's like a Here Pentagon to test Ability to shoot down North Korean missiles. The video is the next video I played. Okay. I think that's the one I found.
Starting point is 01:18:29 I dare you to fuck with me. This is kind of interesting, though. Oh, look at the girl. Well, listen, man. This is strange time. The fact that, here's what's strange. The fact that these people are actually doing this. The fact that you can get people to goose step down the middle of the street and ride a tank and salute the king like this shit's all real they don't know any better right exactly
Starting point is 01:18:49 find a video where they worship him yeah that's the greatest shit but but listen this what we're looking at right here is actually happening this is not cgi no but so this is either two levels of weird it's either one level of weird where you have this populace that's so entranced by the military dictatorship that they just act out every day of their lives like this and they can't help themselves. Or two, this is all bullshit
Starting point is 01:19:15 and these are all actors. So they've got five million actors waving Korean flags and waving to the king. I didn't see five million people. Whatever the fuck it is. You've got people goose stepping. There's a lot of people there. I don't know how many thousand that is, but there's a lot of people there. They put on shows for people coming in.
Starting point is 01:19:31 You come in, they're going to put a show on for you. Everywhere you go, they're putting on. So there's actors everywhere already. This is just a lot of them, but they're already acting. Do you understand that these people goose step in and do all this thing? Just the fact that they're able to do that. Say if this is all fake. Let's just go deep, deep, deep, deep.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Let's go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep. What are the odds that you're going to get that many actors who don't even have top billing to stay in line? What are the odds that you're going to get them to perform like that and drive tanks and keep their mouth shut?
Starting point is 01:20:04 And this white boy's in on it, too. Everyone's pitching in on it. It's way more likely the odds that you're going to get them to perform like that and drive tanks and keep their mouth shut? And this white boy's in on it, too. Everyone's pitching in on it. It's way more likely that these people are under the thumb of a military dictatorship. Who kills a ton of people. Right. Because we've had a fuckload of military dictatorships in history, but what we haven't had is a country filled with actors. And who's playing these actors?
Starting point is 01:20:22 Who's giving them that fucking pro-North Korea crazy mic? Yeah, who's the goddamn teacher? And how do they train all of them? Where are they rehearsing? Is it one big auditorium? Is it one episode of Fame? Look at them goose-stepping. Dude, this is crazy. Look how many people there. Look how they turn their fucking
Starting point is 01:20:39 tops over. Whatever they're doing that changes it to the flag colors. This looks like a New Year's Eve parade. at these people man they're all marching in tune dude just the fact that they get anybody to do it either either one regular businessman right there on the side there's a few people that are probably saying it looks fucking fishy no propaganda is running rampant it's all again I'm just saying I'm just so let me ask you this when mr. I'm just saying let me ask you this mr. I'm just saying. Let me ask you this, Mr. I'm just saying. Let me ask you this, Mr. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:21:06 What is more likely? Is it more likely that these people are fucking terrified and like many, many, many other civilizations in the past. I've never seen a civilization like this ever. You're right. It's never existed. But I'm sure it has in China. I'm sure it has in ancient Japan.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Really? I'm sure there's been people that. Dictatorships. But we don't know that. We don't know that. We're talking sure there's been dictatorships but we don't know that we don't know that we're talking about shit we know for sure we don't know that
Starting point is 01:21:28 the Mayans and the Aztecs the Aztecs killed 80,000 people after they built one of their pyramids I mean they did over a period
Starting point is 01:21:37 of a couple days he's probably legit but we've been lied to so much I wouldn't doubt it what are you talking about what's a lie all these people are actors
Starting point is 01:21:45 and they just live there. They're all actors. I don't know if they love this shit. Think of how crazy that is. Wouldn't it be more likely that these poor people are just brainwashed? Because we know people get brainwashed. Wouldn't it be more likely that this is the craziest? When you take into consideration
Starting point is 01:22:01 all the lies that we've been told, the faked moon missions, all this shit, nothing. I mean, this is nothing. They put together a bunch of people and made a fucking parade. They faked the moon mission six times. And everybody believes that shit. But there are real events that happen every day that are in the news, right? Totally.
Starting point is 01:22:19 This is just too convenient. This is too much of a distraction. Eddie, this would be- My guess is we're not going to war with them. Eddie, this would be one of the greatest productions- It's just a distraction. This would be one of the greatest productions in the history of the human race if this was fake. It would be the biggest movie of all.
Starting point is 01:22:30 It would be- A greater production than the moon landings? This is bigger than anything. Bigger than that? Getting all these Korean people to dance around. Dude, that's a couple thousand people. Dude, no one's willing to do this. It's a 3,000 people.
Starting point is 01:22:40 They have to- You don't think someone would snitch? You don't think someone would snitch eventually? These are not the same people that fake the moon missions It's legit Find the people that are worshipping him
Starting point is 01:22:51 But don't say it's legit These people are these people that are stuck in North Korea People that have escaped have told horror stories
Starting point is 01:22:58 It's like a giant cult It's horrible man It's like this is a fucking 10 million cult of the moonies I'm not saying they're actors. I'm just saying there's something fishy about the whole North Korea thing. Of course it's fishy. I'm not saying
Starting point is 01:23:10 that they're actors. It could be anything. I'm just saying I don't know. I'm saying it smells fishy. Something is not right about what they're telling us about North Korea. I don't know. They're just something off. Here's the real thing that's most fucked up about North Korea is that even if you freed them from this guy, they've been under the thumb of a communist dictatorship for so long, they
Starting point is 01:23:29 wouldn't know what to do. They're institutionalized. Yes, they really are. It's like a guy who's been in jail for too long. Yeah, they get out. It fucks people's heads up, man. Do you know how many people would be so susceptible to some new form of dictatorship? Fuck, man.
Starting point is 01:23:44 I mean, you literally have a whole country. They always do that in these countries when they remove a dictator and then there's this power vacuum and a way more horrible person takes their place. And you're like, what the fuck, man? Like, they got rid of Gaddafi and now it's just the crazy ISIS stronghold.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah, Libya, apparently, man, I don't know too much about it, but they were saying that it's a failed state. Yeah, it's a wild state. That's a wild West With North Korea though. They can't even they like that. He controls their media TV like internet They can't log on to certain fucking sites some don't get internet No, there's no iPhone like you bring an iPhone that I got Danny from the future. They still got flip phones and shit Yeah, they're they're we're living in a really weird country. Bring a hamburger, they flip out of it.
Starting point is 01:24:26 I think the globalists like it. I think we need villains, and they probably help him out and fund him. You know what I mean? They like the shit he's doing. They need a distraction. Anything happens, boom, they're testing missiles, boom. For two weeks, we're going to be all over North Korea,
Starting point is 01:24:40 a couple months, and then it's going to be gone. Watch, this is like the new Ebola. Remember there was Ebola, Ebola, distraction, distraction. North Korea is perfect to distract. That's what I think. It's not a distraction. He's killing hundreds of thousands of people. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:24:52 You think Ebola was a distraction? You don't think Ebola was a bunch of really smart doctors stopping some shit before it got horrible because you got a hemorrhagic virus that's escaping from Africa? Ebola's a motherfucker, son. People really got it. People really got it. you got a hemorrhagic virus is escaping from africa it was it was it was yeah people really got it just because a bunch of shit happens at the same time doesn't mean that one of those things that happens was a design to make sure you don't pay attention to the other thing just because they dropped that mother of all bombs in afghanistan did you see that she had like three
Starting point is 01:25:19 people killed 90 90 yeah it's kind of crazy. Do you see the size of that fucking thing? Well, they had to go through- It only killed 90? It had to go through the ground. That bomb was so fucking big. Okay, so what are they saying? What's the story? They launched the what? It's the biggest bomb ever created. Do you know what the mother of all bombs? It's the heaviest, most powerful bomb ever.
Starting point is 01:25:36 It's crazy when you watch the footage. There's a picture. Have you seen it, Jamie? The blast radius is a mile. It looks like you're dropping a straight spaceship. Yeah. And it killed- At first, they're like, you killed 40 people.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Like, goddamn. Send one of our crazy mass shooters. They'll do work. So we say 40, we meant 90. Well, I'm at 90. Look at this fucking. Yeah, they got to drop it. You're a dude. Does it have a parachute?
Starting point is 01:25:55 Does that thing have a parachute? It has propellers on it, son. I mean, it hit and apparently devastated this tunnel system that they were having a hard time getting to because they said that ISIS has this stronghold out there. Look at that fucking beast. Do you think there's a video of that from the Afghanistan hit? Yeah, there is.
Starting point is 01:26:13 There's a video from the helicopter. It's like the military video. I was expecting a little more out of it, to be honest with you. Yeah, it's hard to tell what's going on because it's black and white. Why'd they paint that bitch charger orange? That bitch's note came from America. Why'd they put fucking white racing straps on the top?
Starting point is 01:26:31 It is a crazy little machine. It's a big-ass bomb. You're not buying that shit, Eddie? No. It only killed 90 people. It looks like an explosion. It's a giant explosion. That's a bomb.
Starting point is 01:26:40 That's what bombs do. That's what bombs do, though. But that's all it is. A bomb went off. That's what bombs do. That's what bombs do, though. A bomb went off. That's what we saw. No, it's the biggest bomb that ever has been dropped in war outside of a nuclear bomb. All right.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Well, you don't believe me? I don't believe shit. I'm crazy. This is how crazy I am. Tell me. I'm trying to figure out what's the angle. Why are they showing us this? That's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 01:27:06 That's how crazy I am. I'm fucking so deep down. You don't believe anything. When it comes to military shit that's blasted on the History Channel or CNN, I'm automatically what's their angle. I don't buy it. Okay, let me ask you this. You need to have a conversation with Tim Kennedy.
Starting point is 01:27:22 You need to talk to Tim Kennedy. Dinosaurs. I'm crazy. Dinosaurs, real or not. I don't trust that shit. You don't trust T conversation with Tim Kennedy. You need to talk to Tim Kennedy. Dinosaurs. I'm crazy. Dinosaurs, real or not? I don't trust that shit. You don't trust T-Rex? I love that Triceratops, because everybody loves when the Triceratops fights the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Everybody's rooting for the Triceratops. If you're rooting for the Tyrannosaurus Rex in that epic battle, you're a douchebag. Right, you're right. So you dig those. What about the woolly mammoth? I would say yes. You're a douche bag right you're right, so you did those like what about woolly mammoth? I Would say yes
Starting point is 01:27:51 That's a fucking elephant Tyrannosaurus Rex is no they have a new one where they're gonna bring it back Rex is a giant kangaroo. That's what it is. That's my guess It looks exactly the same it's got a tail hops around on two legs tyran It's a giant kangaroo. That's what it is. That's my guess. Look at it. It looks exactly the same. It's got a tail, hops around on two legs, tie around. That's a fucking, they found a giant kangaroo. And when they figured it out, they go, dude, it's a kangaroo.
Starting point is 01:28:15 They're like, get the fuck up. Well, listen, if it was a giant kangaroo, it'd be just as impressive. Yeah. You got a fucking hundred foot tall kangaroo. Can you imagine? That's terrifying. How about that one jack kangaroo? You see that one jack kangaroo that lives in a park somewhere? Dude, he's jacked.
Starting point is 01:28:28 He's on that acai. He's like the Kevin Randleman of kangaroos. You ever seen this kangaroo? Yes, I have. It's ridiculous. He's a bad motherfucker. You saw that guy who fought the kangaroo? Yeah, that guy's an asshole.
Starting point is 01:28:37 What the fuck? But here's my thing. If a kangaroo was 100 feet tall, it'd be just as impressive as a lizard 100 feet tall. It's all crazy. And what about triceratops? Doesn't it fucking look like just a different kind of rhinoceros? Like a giant rhinoceros? Eddie, it is. It is.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Why is he like that Diaz body? Why is he like this? 209, bitch! I'm not surprised, motherfucker. Look at him. I bet that kangaroo would fuck us up. Oh my god! That's Vitor Belfort, TRT glory days. Look at him. I bet that kangaroo would fuck us up. You think the... Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:29:06 That's Vitor Belfort, TRT Glory Day. Look at that vein on his bicep. That's like Mark Coleman in 95. That's a tank. Do you think the three of us could beat him up? No, man. We're going to run. We're going to get that samurai sword sticking in his asshole.
Starting point is 01:29:21 We're going to destroy that fucking thing. The three of us could fuck him up. That's a scary animal. It's a big fucking scary animal. They kick you. You're fucked. Yeah, they can get like seven feet tall. They're fucking huge.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Is that real? Yeah, there's certain ones that are... That's a real kangaroo, dude. Why are they so jacked? Well, they're really... There's two different kinds. There's red kangaroos and gray kangaroos. I don't remember which one's the big one.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I think it's a red kangaroo. The red sounds way more gnarly. Say, what's the largest... Google, what's the largest kangaroo, young one. I think it's a red kangaroo. The red sounds way more gnarly. Say, what's the largest? Google, what's the largest kangaroo, young Jamie? I think it's a red one. 200-pound ripped kangaroo crushes mallow. Good Lord. Good Lord.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Is that a video? So, Eddie, you don't think that T-Rexes are real? Do you really? When you look into when dinosaur bones are first discovered. I want a meme that says, when you look into dot dinosaur bones were first discovered. I want a meme that says, when you look into dot, dot, dot. When you look into the timeline, it wasn't just like, oh, all dinosaurs were discovered. There was a timeline.
Starting point is 01:30:15 There was a lot of fraudulent shit. There was dudes saying, hey, look what I found. They're like, bitch, that's just a whale bone. They're like, fuck. They were getting paid. There was a lot of fraud going on in the 1800s when they were discovering diamonds. But what about the layers of Earth? What was that? What about the way the Earth is, like the layers?
Starting point is 01:30:30 And you can tell certain time periods from the layers of Earth. The stratus. Well, if you're talking about carbon dating, there's a lot of science that goes back and forth. Like it ain't shit, or it's real, or it's not legit. No, it's pretty much universally acknowledged that carbon dating is effective. Okay, well, not the stuff that I'm looking into. I don't know. I'm looking on YouTube now.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Remember, I'm getting all my shit from YouTube. That's the stuff I'm looking at. So don't take my word for it. I know, but I think you chase your tail with this shit. I'm crazy. You chase your tail with this shit, man. No, I'm not. I'm having fun.
Starting point is 01:31:00 It's entertaining. Do you really love it? He loves it. Figuring out how we're being bullshitted is very... But that's the thing with it how are they bullshitting us i love that see i like i love that i like that eddie's i don't like i think you need people like this like he loves it i think this is how crazy i am i think we're being lied to about fucking everything your kid's gonna grow up just super skeptical fuck yeah i'm already telling him don. I'm already telling him don't trust anything
Starting point is 01:31:25 you see on TV. No. Why do you let him watch TV? We let him watch a little cartoons here and there. SpongeBob's corrupt as fuck. I'm going to raise him
Starting point is 01:31:35 not trusting TV. I don't give a fuck what anybody says. You can't say nobody would ever disagree with that The TV is not good for kids It's not good for kids
Starting point is 01:31:49 Why don't you have a show On the Alex Jones channel What is happening I agree You went there Fuck I went a total retard on him I went full flat earth on him
Starting point is 01:31:57 Even he doesn't believe in flat earth No no no no Most conspiracy theorists Most conspiracy theorists Do not They think flat earth Is no no no most most most conspiracy theorists most conspiracy theorists do not they think flat earth is the most retarded thing ever when joe first when joe first brought it up like about a about a year year and a half ago he said dude he was trying to he was trying to uh basically say how stupid people are he said do you know people still believe the earth is flat and the sun is 3 000 miles away and i remember sitting there thinking, shit, what are they, Amish or something?
Starting point is 01:32:26 Like, how dumb do you have to be to think the world is flat? Yeah, you'd be crying a few YouTube videos later. How dumb? No, no, no. And then you brought it up again. And then you brought it up again. You brought it up again, like maybe six months later. And I said, on your podcast, I said, that is so dumb.
Starting point is 01:32:44 That's got to be some kind of CIA psyop. It's got to be some kind of destruction. Where the fuck did you take a weird left turn? And then I was in class, and we were talking about conspiracy theories, and my buddy Manny, full-blown conspiracy theorist. Jiu-jitsu class. He goes, do you have my jiu-jitsu class? He goes, we're talking about my YouTube class.
Starting point is 01:33:00 I thought it was a conspiracy class. No. I was like, God, you go to school? He teaches. I teach. No, I know that. I thought he meant like a straight class. Open your eyes. I teach people how to kill, Brendan. Look out the door. There conspiracy class. I was like, God, you go to school? He teaches. I teach. No, I know that. I thought he meant like a straight class. I teach people how to kill
Starting point is 01:33:07 Brendan. Look out the door. There you go. Also, so Manny turns to me and goes, dude, you ever look into Flatter? This was like eight months ago or something. And I said, right when he said that, Manny, you ever look into astronomy? Yeah, right when he said that. Manny, did you miss fourth grade? Right when he said that.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Manny, anybody drop you on your head? Manny, what are you smoking? I can't believe anything that ever comes out of his mouth again. That's what I thought. Correct. I'm like, Jesus. And I'm like, Manny, please don't ever bring that shit up again. You keep that shit, dude.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Cut to. Dude, that's a CIA saga. I sense the turn. And then another guy comes. I'm telling you the story. And then Ernest comes up to me and he goes, Hey man, you ever look into flat earth? I said, dude, Jesus, God damn Christ.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Okay. So when did you turn? And he goes, Hey man, I got a master's in engineering. Look into it. And I just wanted to go, I just went home and I was just going to look into what fucking school that was. So we can tell people Phoenix on the same shit. I'm so crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:06 I so don't believe anything. You want something else to do. Yeah, I tried to debunk it. I was trying to debunk it. I was Mr. Debunker. Eddie, there's a fucking Japanese satellite that takes a photo from 22,000 miles out every 10 minutes. Come on, those Japanese pictures. It doesn't show that it's flat, though, even if the pixels all fucked up. Jamie, pull up those pictures. Those Japanese pictures. on, those Japanese pictures. It doesn't show that it's flat, though, even if the pixel is all fucked up.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Yo, Jamie, pull up those pictures. Those Japanese. Put up those Japanese pictures. It's from 22,000 miles away. I can't believe you believe those pictures. I can't believe you believe those pictures, man. I can't believe it. Do you remember when you had a flip phone, dude, and the front-facing cameras were always dog shit?
Starting point is 01:34:40 Always. You know, and the back-facing one was pretty legit. Yeah, that's how it works, man. 22,000 miles away, it's a hard to take a good iPhone 7. Have you ever seen a picture of a flat phone?
Starting point is 01:34:51 No, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. The crazy thing, I'm not saying it's flat. I'm just saying, damn, when you look into it, I'm saying we don't know what the fuck we're on.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Wait a minute, Eddie. This Japanese satellite, this Japanese satellite, hold on, Eddie. This Japanese satellite that all these hundreds of scientists worked on for like a decade. They fake moon landings. They shoot it onto the space.
Starting point is 01:35:10 They fake the moon landings. They take a picture every 10 minutes and you can download it from the website. CGI composites. So constantly making CGI in some sort of a computer bank somewhere. Like they do in NASA. NASA, that's what they do. Why do you think if they have the technology to make CGI
Starting point is 01:35:26 that looks that good, why don't they have the technology to shoot a camera into space? Where's the pictures from NASA? How come they don't have any? They don't have that space
Starting point is 01:35:34 kind of... Oh, they don't have the technology? No, they just never did it. Eddie, Eddie. I'm not fucking about proving it's round. These Japanese pictures,
Starting point is 01:35:40 I've seen them. Put them up. They're terrible. Show me a real picture. Show me a real picture. But listen, NASA does not have one of those satellites. Fake?
Starting point is 01:35:47 Why do you think that's fake? That's a legit picture. That's fake as fuck. Why does it look fake as fuck? It looks like something you'd see in a movie. That's because when they do it in a movie, they try to make it look like this, which is what looks real. If that's real to you, man, shit.
Starting point is 01:35:58 You don't think it's real? They faked six moon landings. Stop saying that, because it's irrelevant. We're not talking about the same people. It looks fake to me. Eddie, that's 1969. We're talking talking about the same people. It looks fake to me. Eddie, that's 1969. We're talking about 2017. That looks fake as fuck.
Starting point is 01:36:07 So you think there's some gigantic conspiracy involving the Japanese government where they put up a fake picture of the Earth from 22,000 miles up every 10 minutes. High resolution, downloadable photo. You think it's fake. Why wouldn't it be real? Isn't it just as likely that the Japanese actually did launch that thing into space? Why would it be fake? Propaganda, man. Why would they care that it's not flat?
Starting point is 01:36:29 Is there a photo of this flat Earth? No. Like I just said again, there's no photo of the flat Earth from space. There's no photo of the round Earth from space. That's not true. That's not true. Why do you say they're fake, though? They look fake.
Starting point is 01:36:47 They look CGI. But you're not an expert in imagery. Looks fake to me. Do you remember? Hold on. When I watch Avatar, I don't need to be an expert to know it's fake. When I watch Avatar, I'm not an expert. It's fake.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Avatar's at the movies. When you watch some ridiculous kung fu video, being a martial arts expert, if you were sitting next to someone who told you that their sensei can't compete in the UFC because they're too deadly, wouldn't you get pissed off? Because you're an actual martial arts expert. That's just like you,
Starting point is 01:37:13 with no science background whatsoever, talking about these photos. I'm crazy. But why think like that? I'm crazy. But why indulge that? I'm crazy. But why not indulge the full realm of possibilities and not cling to the conspiracy every single time?
Starting point is 01:37:28 No, no. NASA can't get pictures. They've been doing CGI composites this whole time. Forget about stating what NASA does. Please answer my question. Why do you always go towards the conspiracy? Why do you never consider the possibility that maybe- Too many lies.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Too many lies. They're not the same people. It's all the same. So everybody's lying? It's a global thing, yes. All the European space agencies lying. They're all in on it. It's a global thing. So what do you think's going on up there? I think all governments, most of them, the globalists,
Starting point is 01:37:56 they're all working together to control their people. What's the advantage if the Earth isn't round? I told you, I'm crazy. I know, but what's the advantage that it's not round? They control you, bro, with the ice wall. They just want to fuck with us? Keep you on a...
Starting point is 01:38:11 I don't know, man. I don't know what it is. It doesn't make sense. Why would they control... They can just control people. You have to find out and find the sense. You could find the sense. No, the real problem would be...
Starting point is 01:38:19 It's really easy. You put them on a ball because, again, I'm crazy. You put them on a ball. My guess is you're on a ball. You're nowhere. Don't try to go anywhere. Just stay there and work. Oh, hell no. Stay there and work. You saw the Truman Show. You watched the Truman Show a little too much.
Starting point is 01:38:33 They sat down and said, you know what, we've got to release some fake math that shows that you can demonstrate that the Earth is round. We've got to release that. Dude, there's no pictures of the Earth from space, man. What is that? We just looked at one, Eddie. Stop saying that. It was fake. You don't know that it's fake. Okay. But you're saying, look, it's a real problem
Starting point is 01:38:47 when you say something. I'm crazy. But don't say that. I am. Just stop. Just stop and think because you're communicating to millions of people.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Exactly. And you're saying something that doesn't make any sense. It does make sense. But you don't know anything about imagery. You don't know anything about what,
Starting point is 01:39:00 you don't know anything about that. It looks fake to me. You don't have a fake ass picture. But you don't have, come on, Eddie, you're just looking at it with the naked eye. It looks fake to me. That's a fake-ass picture. Come on, Eddie. You're just looking at it with the naked eye. It looks real to everybody else in this room.
Starting point is 01:39:08 I think you're coming at it with a confirmation bias. Crazy, right? No, I don't think it makes you crazy. I'm just having fun with it. But you have this direct inclination to always go towards a conspiracy. It doesn't have to piss anybody off. It's a disservice towards your opinion. You should just be like, hey, that's what you think.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Cool. It doesn't have to... You're getting angry about it. No, I opinion. You should just be like, hey, that's what you think. Cool. It doesn't have to, like, you're getting angry about it. No, I'm not getting angry at all. We're just being stoners here. We're being stoners. I'm like, I don't believe that shit. I'm not raising my voice. What I'm trying to do is corner your ideas.
Starting point is 01:39:34 I'm trying to corner your ideas. Because you're saying these things to, you're very influential. You're saying these things to millions of people. But I don't think you're thinking correctly. I'm telling, I know. That's why I've stated many times. That you're crazy. But here's the problem. I'm losing my mind. When do you think you're thinking correctly. I'm telling, I know. That's why I've stated many times. That you're crazy. I'm losing my mind.
Starting point is 01:39:46 When do you think you started losing it? I think I was, you know, as soon as I found out when I was 11 that everybody wasn't Catholic. That was it? That's when I started losing my mind. I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, everybody's not Catholic? I thought everybody was Catholic. There's other religions?
Starting point is 01:40:02 Then how do we know we're right? There's a bunch, what's a Jew? Oh shit, there's more Jews than Catholics? How do we know we have the right religion? I'm like was Catholic. There's other religions. Then how do we know we're right? There's a bunch. What's a Jew? Oh, shit. There's more Jews than Catholics. How do we know we have the right religion? I'm like, okay. You start questioning. Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:12 That's when I started going crazy. That's so funny. People that question authority are usually looked at as crazy. Conspiracy theorists. Yeah, but it's- The CIA coined the term conspiracy theorists. You're a smart dude. You're not crazy. There's a problem in the way you approach these things because you approach them all knowing,
Starting point is 01:40:27 before you even start, that they're a conspiracy. I'm telling you what I think. So that's confirmation bias. I'm telling you, hey, dude, when you lie so much, you got to prove it to me. You lie so goddamn much, I'm never going to be saying the things that a defense attorney would say. But you don't have to. I'm saying the thing that the prosecuting attorney would say. You say that all the time.
Starting point is 01:40:43 That's what I'm saying. But it's not a good analogy because it's court. That's exactly how I look at it. And court's filled with lies. Yeah. And you're allowed to manipulate the words. The government's being accused of lying. I understand.
Starting point is 01:40:55 And they've been caught lying. So they're in court. But here, it's not the government. It's not the government. Oh, whoever. Whoever. Just in general. Scientists.
Starting point is 01:41:04 It's all government scientists. You think scientists? You think there's these independent scientists? It's all the government. Oh, whoever. Whoever. Just in general. It's all government scientists. You think scientists? You think there's these independent scientists? It's all government scientists. They're all trying to get their grants. Why would you think? You don't think the globalists haven't controlled science and information since day one? You think this is like a new thing?
Starting point is 01:41:22 Their name, the globalists. If they were the flattest, they would be like, yeah, it's flat. But they're like, no, fuck these guys. We're globalists. No, no, the globalists is what Alex calls people that- I feel like Eddie could flip me if we just spent like a day together. I think you're just trying to make fun. Hey, I'm just having fun, man.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I like finding out- I don't think Eddie's crazy, though. I don't trust shit coming from the government. Does that make me crazy? Yes. He's got a little too deep, but he's not crazy. The problem is this idea of the government. The government consists of a bunch of individuals.
Starting point is 01:41:48 They control science. They control history. They control different agencies. Eddie, do you know they have infighting? Do you know the CIA and the FBI go after each other? Of course they do. There's no one government. There's a lot of personal shit going on in between.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Of course they do. But it's not just personal shit. There's a bunch of different factions that you call the government. I agree. And the idea that it's all like the shit. There's a bunch of different factions that you call the government. I agree. And the idea that it's all like the government can't be trusted. I just say that because I'm not going to, I mean, you want me to pick out some agencies? Yeah, NASA. I could pick out some.
Starting point is 01:42:12 But just in general, in general, it's history, science, education, energy. Everything has always been controlled by the government since day one. Radio has been used as propaganda since the day it was invented. You think some independent dude just invented radio and then he started broadcasting his favorite music and shit and his thoughts? No. It was the government from day one in radio. It was the government in all countries from day one in radio. It was the government in all countries from day one in TV. In the movies, it was all radio, TV, and the movies
Starting point is 01:42:51 have always been about propaganda. Always in every country. It's nothing new. It's old school gangsters. Our country is the most gangster. What does this have to do with the world being flat? No, no, this is how gangster our government is. There was a war on drugs.
Starting point is 01:43:08 We started a war on drugs. Turns out we're bringing it in. Then there's a war on terrorism. Turns out we created Al-Qaeda. Do you understand why I'm crazy? I'm crazy because of that shit. I'm like, you could believe that shit. You want to believe that shit?
Starting point is 01:43:23 Good luck, but I ain't. You just apply this to everything. Basically, anything coming from the government. Anything coming from the government. But the dinosaurs don't come from the government. There's so much fraud when you look into it. Astronomy doesn't come from the government. It comes from scientists.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Look into it. Look into it, man. But Eddie, I have looked into it. Dinosaurs are for kids. Look, you could go over these different sections of the earth. Yeah, well, you can look at the next one that comes 10 minutes later. Maybe you won't think that one's fake. Like, oh, wow, that one's kind of real.
Starting point is 01:43:49 It looks all fake. It doesn't look fake. To me, it looks like what the fucking Earth probably looks like when you're 22,000 miles away. To you, it does. Not to me. This is NASA's, by the way. It's no big deal. Can we agree to disagree?
Starting point is 01:44:00 Yeah, but why think that it does? Because I don't trust shit. Why think that the government does make these fake pictures of the earth? Don't you think that would be a risky thing? You want to speculate? I mean, I could speculate. I want to hear you speculate. It's easier to control people when they're on a ball.
Starting point is 01:44:17 I've been trying to tell people that forever. I don't know. Like, we've got to live on a ball. I told that to my wife. It's going to be easy to get the kids to listen. We've just lived on a ball. We've lived on a ball. From this household shit. I don't know what to believe. I don i told that to my wife it's gonna be easy to get the kids to listen i've just lived on a ball from this house bullshit i don't know i'm out i don't know what to believe
Starting point is 01:44:28 i don't know what to believe that doesn't even make any sense why would it be easier to get people to listen if they're on a ball rather than they're on a plate because if there's more land people gonna want to work there's actually more land shit what do you mean it's more land who knows if you if you um like yeah exactly that's what's that what are you talking about i don't understand what you're talking about like more you're saying if the world is flat and the flat earth model is true okay what's the point of it what's the point of so all the math is fake like that the earth is going 24 hours in a circle is that all fake that it spins a thousand miles an hour i I don't... When you look into it,
Starting point is 01:45:06 it's stationary. If you look into the experiments, if you look into the experiments to prove that the Earth is spinning, all of them failed. Look into it. You can just think that. We've been indoctrinated into thinking that. That's not true. That's not true. I'm crazy. I get it.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Jamie, what were you going to say? I don't have the science in my head to back it up either, but that's not true. You can't say things like that. That's what Eric Dubé says, and he's not backing it up. Where's the evidence? Find the evidence. There are kids in high school right now that can show you the evidence with scientific How come you can't show it to me?
Starting point is 01:45:37 Because I'm not in class right now, and I'm not up to date. I'm doing JRE work right now. Okay, you're talking about some shit you don't know about. You're talking about some shit you don't know about. You're talking about some shit you don't know about. But so are you. But you're saying something. I'm just saying I don't trust it. You're saying something that people have been proving for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Starting point is 01:45:51 Look into the Mickelson-Morley experiment. That was a... Einstein said it himself. Einstein said, to this day, Einstein said, there is no proof that we're moving. Do you guys just have a look into it? That's all it is. You guys have a look into it. You guys have a look into it. it? That's all it is. You guys haven't looked into it. You're watching YouTube videos, Eddie.
Starting point is 01:46:06 There's a difference between looking into it and watching YouTube videos. So let's say this. Do you watch them all from the same channel? Okay, what if it's true that Albert Einstein said there is no evidence that the earth is spinning? What if he said a quote? You say that's not true. I saw it on YouTube. But what if we find out that it is true?
Starting point is 01:46:26 Then what? What if they find out leprechauns are really butt-fucking genies on the moon? That's what I thought. What does that mean? That's what I said. So you're saying, oh, it's on YouTube. Do you really think Einstein said that? Maybe in 1947 there wasn't much evidence that the Earth was spinning because they didn't understand it yet.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Okay. When we're talking about something that happened more than a half a century ago, Einstein is, look, you compare all the people that are alive today, whether it's Lawrence Krauss or Stephen Hawking's most famous failed experiment. That's the Mickelson-Morley experiment. It was on, they couldn't recreate it. It was in the 1880s. I looked this up when I was watching a podcast.
Starting point is 01:47:01 True science is supposed to recreate it. No, Eddie, exactly. You keep using that look at the Mickelson-Morley experiments. I did. I read up information on it. It's an experiment that was supposed to be able to be recreated. It was not able to be recreated. So that evidence is used by flat earth supporting people.
Starting point is 01:47:18 Like you just said, go look it up. Go look it up. So I did look it up. True science is repeatable. You can't repeat it. It's not real science. You don't understand what you're saying. That's what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:47:25 I'm trying to tell you that. That's the evidence you're trying to say. They say the experiment showed the Earth is not spinning. No one can reproduce that experiment. That's why it's not real. So this thing that you keep repeating is bullshit. Okay. And this thing that you keep...
Starting point is 01:47:39 But don't. No, no, no. Hey, where did you get this information? Jamie. Where'd you get it? Where'd I get what? This information. Where is this get what? This information. What is this coming from?
Starting point is 01:47:46 This is coming off the internet. Exactly. So you're reading some information. I'm reading some information. Slow down, slow down. You didn't go to the library. Slow down. Oh, it's on Wikipedia?
Starting point is 01:47:55 Eddie, stop doing that. There's sources here. There's a book called The American Journal of Science. I'm sure that a lot of people respect that. Which is bought and paid for? Well, maybe. It is. It's bought and paid for.
Starting point is 01:48:03 It's part of that. Here's the thing, Eddie. It's like the Washington Post. Eddie, why would anybody be paying money for people to lie about the world's great? That's a very good question that everybody asks coming in. Everybody asks that question. Coming into the group. Have a seat.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Have some coffee. My name's Eddie. One by one, they're getting knocked down. Hi, Eddie. No, no, Eddie, they're not. They're not. They're not. It's huge.
Starting point is 01:48:24 They're not getting knocked down. That's why we just read this thing that you they're not. They're not. They're not. It's huge. They're not getting knocked down. That's why we just read this thing that you've been citing, and you didn't even understand it when we were reading it. You read off the internet. But that's how complicated. You read off the internet. I read it off the internet, too. I read it off the internet, too.
Starting point is 01:48:34 I don't have any books here. I'll go find the encyclopedia if you want. No, no, exactly. No, we're both reading off the internet. We're both getting our information off the internet. So you're saying who's right? Eddie, one of them is peer-reviewed journals from scientists. From American Journal of Science come on that's like
Starting point is 01:48:47 That's like Eddie's like the economist So you think it's more likely more likely that everyone is in on it and lying Then it is one guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about He makes a YouTube video and you get convinced and it's attractive to you because it seems like it would be an amazing Conspiracy to be ahead of. And you get trapped in the fucking rabbit hole. And you go down the flat earth rabbit hole. And you find yourself defending things with experiments that you don't even understand.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Which means you haven't really looked into it. You just read some shit that he pulled up off the internet. And you're like all over it. I know you didn't understand it. No, I understand it now. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But I understood it. And he had explained it to you twice.
Starting point is 01:49:23 You didn't understand it. You were arguing for it. No, no, no. This is the proof. But I understood it, and he had explained it to you twice. You didn't understand it. You were arguing for it. No, no, no. This is the proof. Now I understand it. There was an experiment to prove that the Earth wasn't moving. And it was not repeatable. And then they proved it.
Starting point is 01:49:34 No. No, they didn't prove it. No, no, no. I get it. No, no, I get it. They didn't prove it, but that doesn't mean that it's spinning. Oh, Jamie, I'm sure you can find some evidence that the Earth is spinning. Eddie, people have known it's spinning forever.
Starting point is 01:49:45 That's how the seasons work. That's how you see the sun. We spin around. That's why it makes eclipses. That's why you can track time zones. That's why you can put a piece of stick in the ground. You're saying all the correct shit. It acts as a sundial.
Starting point is 01:49:59 You're saying all the shit you would say. Eddie, there's a fundamental problem with the way you approach these things. No, there's not a problem. The problem is you go into them. I don't trust shit. You do. But it's not that I trust shit. Eddie, you know I don't trust shit.
Starting point is 01:50:11 I'm having fun with it. You know I don't. It doesn't matter if it's flat or round. It doesn't matter. I'm having fun with it. That's a bad fallback. You keep saying that. It's a bad fallback.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Because what we're saying is there are conspiracies. The problem is when you think everything is conspiracy, you act as a psyop guy and you fuck people over that want to look at real conspiracies. Because the real conspiracy is like the Gulf of Tonkin. That's what I thought too. Like the Gulf of Tonkin. Like Operation Northwoods. Real things that really happened. When you look at those things and people explore them, they go, oh, I don't think they really killed Kennedy.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Are you sure? Why don't you look at this? Look at this stuff. There's a lot of really crazy evidence. When you start thinking that the world is flat, the dinosaurs aren't real, all this nutty shit that you believe and you just jump into it with the problem is, it discredits
Starting point is 01:51:00 all these other things that you believe that might be real. Because the other things have some validity to them. You just haven't looked into it. That's all. Eddie. I used to say the same stuff. Eddie, you're talking about the Erpian Flat.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Thousands of scientists have looked into it. You think they're all wrong? That's so insane. You haven't looked into it. I have. No, you have. Oh, my God. How could I not have?
Starting point is 01:51:18 You don't think I have? I'm watching you go down the rabbit hole. You don't think I've tried to pay attention to what the fuck these people are talking about? It doesn't work. I don't think so. Eddie, this website's dedicated to debunking it. It's dedicated to showing you the science. On the internet.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Showing you the math that you can do. How come when you check the internet, it's valid, but when I'm on the internet, it's not? You're not talking about the internet. You're talking about a guy's YouTube video. It's not a guy's. There's a lot of guys. There's a lot of people. But they're just YouTube videos, Eddie.
Starting point is 01:51:44 It's huge. No. The science behind them is not verified by peer-reviewed journals. The science of the Earth, the gravity. The government science that's bought and paid for, of course. You start talking about flat Earth. Eddie, this is so crazy. You just haven't looked into it. You think the Earth is flat?
Starting point is 01:51:59 I didn't say that. I said, I don't know if it's flat or round. When I see a picture of Earth from space, what we're sitting on from space, when I see a real picture, then we'll have the proof. I'm just saying we don't even have proof that it's real. No, we're looking at pictures while we're sitting here. Okay? You're not even taking into consideration the fact that this is a monitor. You're looking at this.
Starting point is 01:52:20 You don't even get the high resolution. I mean, they must be gigantic files that they get. You would never be able to see them in their actual resolution on a regular monitor in the first place. You're talking about a photo of the Earth. Photo of the Earth from 22,000 miles away, and they take one every fucking 10 minutes. Look CGI to me. The only way you can convince them, Joe. It might look CGI to you.
Starting point is 01:52:38 You'd have to jump in a ship and go yourself. No, I could be wrong. It could be real. There's too many things you don't believe in. It could be real, but they've been faking them so much, they look like all those other fake ones. That's not good enough. I've seen so many fake ones that NASA admits that they're CGI composites. There's so many out there.
Starting point is 01:52:52 So when you see this one, it's like, this is the same one. Yeah, but fake and CGI composites is different. You could believe it. I don't believe it. Eddie, please. When you take one of these photos, what are those called when you fucking do that? Panorama. When you do that, you know what that is?
Starting point is 01:53:06 That's a composite. You're taking a bunch of photographs, and they piece them all together. It makes one enormous photo. When you see these photos from space of the Earth from a closer satellite, not the NASA one that Jamie just pulled up, which does show a full-size image of the Earth,
Starting point is 01:53:20 what you're seeing is they take a photo, they take another photo, and they piece them all together. There's no seams. This is a composite. No, no, there they piece them all together. There's no seams. It's a composite photo. No, no. There's an actual CGI artist. This is three photos.
Starting point is 01:53:29 They put them together. I know, but they fit together. It colors everything in. Eddie, is this CGI? No, no. Question for you. Is this CGI because it was made in a computer and it fits the definition of computer-generated image?
Starting point is 01:53:42 Because that's a composite. This one could easily be- I made this. I'll show you how I made it. Because that's a composite. This one could easily be... I made this. This one... I'll show you how I made it. This could be... No, no, no. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:53:47 But this could be easily a real picture. But it is a real picture. Well, yes. That's not a hard picture. A picture of Earth from space, that's a hard picture. Where I physically was on the ground in New York City to take that with the camera I was using, that building would not fit in my lens.
Starting point is 01:54:02 I wasn't far enough away. But that's not what they're saying they're doing. They're saying they take strips. That's what they're saying they do. No, no. They're saying, I'm going to show you a video of the artist who actually did the latest one. They go, oh, NASA, here's the guy who did the latest picture. Okay, tell us what to look at.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Tell us what to look at. Let's watch the video. Just put NASA artist CGI picture of Earth, and you're going to hear him talking. And he says, it is Photoshop. It is Photoshop, but it has to be Photoshop. He says that word for word. It's a NASA video. I was asking you to clarify that.
Starting point is 01:54:33 I'm trying to tell you. That's what I literally had to do. I had to have been farther away to get the photo and one photo of that giant building. But in order to get that distance away... Did you color it in with CGI? There were buildings in the way. So you're saying they colored it.
Starting point is 01:54:48 I put it in Photoshop. Yes. He's talking about... He's going through the video going, I gotta... Sometimes I put green shades here and I kind of... I'm not an astronaut.
Starting point is 01:54:56 I've never been to space so I have to kind of use my imagination to get it. Well, are they taking black and white photos? It's the latest picture. Is that why? It's the latest picture that NASA releases of Earth.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Here's the latest one. Real life didn't look like this that day. It's a little exaggerated. The darks weren't that NASA releases of Earth. Here's the latest one. Real life didn't look like this that day. It's a little exaggerated. The darks weren't that dark in real life. The brights aren't that bright in real life. So yes, I added color to it. I did some artistry to it. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:55:15 That's what that fucking building looks like. Okay, now find the CGI NASA artist. Do you buy into anything? Do you believe anything? I believe shit that I can prove for myself. Like, I believe the science in, like, a skyscraper. Why? Because I see the skyscraper.
Starting point is 01:55:30 It's standing there. That's truth. I believe in that science. How much have you looked into, like, the science of space travel? How much have you looked into how much work was done to try to put satellites into orbit? So you think we went to the moon? That's not what I asked you. I said, how much did you look into that? Do you think we went to the moon? Eddie, answer my fucking question. How how much did you do you think we went to the moon eddie answer my question you talk ridiculous so you're talking circles okay
Starting point is 01:55:50 you're talking in circles i am they're ridiculous conversations everything is the government the government the government the government's fake pictures why i'm just asking you a question punch up nasa cgi artist picture of earth i don't see that up there eddie it's so crazy which one would you like me to click on? Any of them. That one right there, the second one right there. This one? Flat Earth.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Flat Earth. I mean. No, just listen to him talk. Okay, Stinky Cash. He only has 20,000 views. Well, it's going to get more now. Hey guys, Jeff here. And today I want to share with you this article that's on NASA.gov.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Are we allowed to play this? This is the guy who's a scientist. Are we listening to him or the guy that made the video? You said we were going to listen to a scientist. Well, it looked like the right video. I don't know. But that is the guy. That is the artist.
Starting point is 01:56:35 And that's a picture of the video. His name's Robert Simmons. He's talking about how he created the latest picture of Earth for NASA. They're celebrating CGI. This is the Goddard. It's from the Goddard webpage. He's talking about how he created the latest picture of Earth for NASA. Okay, so what this is is... They're celebrating CGI. This is the Goddard... It's from the Goddard webpage. So he's doing a recap of something that's written on the Goddard webpage.
Starting point is 01:56:51 So go to the Goddard webpage, find that guy's page. Robert Simmons Photoshop. There it was. And we'll see what he's actually saying. This one... Is that it? Okay, good. That guy looks so skeptical in his picture.
Starting point is 01:57:05 What do you think is the most interesting in your role here at Goddard? How do you help support Goddard's mission? My role is to make imagery from Earth scientists' data. I turn data into pictures. I look for new interesting events that NASA satellites have seen or that are hidden in the latest data to find anything interesting that shows off NASA's unique capabilities. Finding things is the fun part.
Starting point is 01:57:26 I rely on engineers and scientists to produce the data. Their reliable real-time stream of 1.7 terabytes a day, holy shit, is incredible. Terabytes. The same as producing 3,000 CDs a day. We know where to look for the interesting stuff because each instrument provides a very specialized type of information. So if I'm looking for something specific, I know where to look. For example, recently there was a volcanic eruption in the Red Sea.
Starting point is 01:57:51 The only reliable imagery of this was from NASA satellites. We basically confirmed the existence of a new island. Okay. So where's the, let's get to some Photoshop shit. You've got to find the one where he's talking. Okay, but this guy's talking about science here. Like some of the science has to be real, right, Eddie? Like there has to be some satellite. ItcTV DirecTV is not fake right?
Starting point is 01:58:09 I don't know, but you could do all that with landline stuff. You don't need to go bounce anything from space You could go online line. Why wouldn't you you could just put it in space and it just broadcasts And you shoot it up there and shoot it back. Why would you lie about that? I mean do you there's a ton of fucking space junk Why would you lie about that? I mean, there's a ton of fucking space junk. Satellite's easy. Satellite's easy. This guy's boring. The satellites are fake?
Starting point is 01:58:27 You know who pays for satellites? You know who pays for satellites? The taxpayer. They get bills. We need a new telecommunications satellite. We've got to throw it up there. We need $35 million. You don't think satellites?
Starting point is 01:58:37 And they go, yeah, okay, we're going to sign it. They get the money. It's a tax scam. You don't think satellites are real? I don't think so. Oh, Jesus Christ. I don't think so. Well, what's happening? What are those things up there that you
Starting point is 01:58:47 can watch from the ground? Have you ever seen the space station fly overhead? You can see it. They can time it. I have pictures of it. They timed it. They told me it was going to be overhead. I took a picture of it. I didn't know it was in a high altitude plane. What's the difference? Why would they do that? Why would they lie? Why would they pretend it's a space station
Starting point is 01:59:03 instead of put a high altitude plane up there? How high do airplanes go? 30,000 feet, right? No, they can go higher. They can go 50, 50 plus. Commercial airplanes, on average, go about 30,000. 30, 35,000. When you're on the ground, you can barely see them. When they're at 30,000 feet, you can barely fucking...
Starting point is 01:59:19 When you're at 30,000 feet and you look down, you wouldn't be able to see a goddamn bus or a plane. Now now those satellites are supposed to Be like a hundred miles up think about that. Yeah, you're gonna see them because they're in space and they're a light They're a very small pinprick of light that moves across the sky you can see with optics I mean you want it okay? But you really haven't looked and you definitely haven't looked with optics if you look with like a big spotting scope these people get these Telescopes they look up and they know exactly where it's going to be. You can actually program it into the telescope.
Starting point is 01:59:46 There's things that you can download where you can find the coordinates of each individual planet. The way these really super powerful telescopes use that amateur astronomers like to use, you punch in the key numbers and it'll move specifically to a spot in the sky where you can tune into the moon or tune into Saturn or into very specific areas of the cosmos that change all the time. Because of the fact that the Earth is spinning, we're catching all sorts of different shit all sorts of different times, especially no matter where you are. If you're on the equator, you're looking at a totally different image, you know, at one moment in the sky than you are the next moment. So it can tell you exactly where the space station is going to be,
Starting point is 02:00:23 where the moon is going to be, where Mars is going going to be and they punch these coordinates into these little computers and they all move to this thing i mean you believe the marv mars rover is real man eddie i don't think i can do this anymore because it's just like i don't see why first of all i don't see where the money is i don't see what hold on a second i don't see where the money is to have all these hoaxes. You don't see the tax scam with the rovers? NASA got $19 billion. Trump gave them $19 billion. Isn't it possible that that's so that they can actually make a rover? Tell me what the space shuttle has done for humanity.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Tell me all that money that was wasted on the space shuttle, and then they just trashed it. They went up I money that was wasted on space shuttle and then they just trashed it. They went up I don't know how many times and then they just trashed it. Tell me how those billions of dollars has helped humanity. Tell me. Well, I think scientific innovation is very important to us because in our minds we constantly want newer, better, more innovative technology. This is a part of being a person in the 21st century. What did we learn, though? Everybody wants a new computer.
Starting point is 02:01:28 Everybody wants new things. And a lot of this new stuff comes from NASA technology. It comes from all the science and innovation that goes to be a part of me. There's a list right there, Eddie. But why do you say this when you don't look into it? You don't look. Highway safety. How come we couldn't do that down here? Improved Highway safety. How come we couldn't do that down here?
Starting point is 02:01:46 Improved radial tires. How come we couldn't do that down here? They can, Eddie, but the massive requirements that you have on the gear, when you're talking about going through fucking space, the insane stress of reentry. They figured out all kinds of crazy shit. The speed in which you land. They figured out a bunch of crazy shit.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Enriched baby food. I mean, portable cordless vacuums. Freeze-drying technology. All this comes from space. There's a shitload of things that they figured out. Harnessing solar energy. There's a lot of innovation that comes from the development of either the space station or the shuttles or a bunch of different things that they've invented. And they continue to innovate these things.
Starting point is 02:02:23 These new satellites that they're shooting out into space are way better than the Hubble. They keep doing more and more, better and better. And it's this constant rush to see who can get to the furthest point of technology in whatever field they're in, whether it's the field of rocketry, whether it's the field of satellites. There's this massive amount of competition between the top scientists in the world. And to think that that's all fake doesn't make any sense. Because there are some things that are fake. So,
Starting point is 02:02:51 why assume that all this technology is fake when you really could see the Challenger? You saw the Challenger explode in the sky. If it's fake, no one was there to engineer the shit that failed. Who said that was fake? Well, any of it. Any space travel. The space shuttle's going up.
Starting point is 02:03:07 It's a high altitude plane. Did you know the space shuttle goes up and they work on fucking satellites? Do you know they dock with the space station? I need to see a video of that. Oh, okay. Show me a video of that. That's what spacewalks are usually about. Jamie hit it.
Starting point is 02:03:20 The problem is there's a lot of these things that you just automatically want to- Dude, they fake six moon missions, dude. Of course I don't trust shit coming from NASA. Even if that was true, those are people in 1969. They're not the same humans. Those people, they're not the same human beings. That's just like saying that the people who made the movies in 1969 are the same people that made Fast and Furious 8.
Starting point is 02:03:43 It's the people that make the movies. They're not the same people. They're totally different humans. It's like saying the stand-up comedians from 1969 were the same as the one. But that was NASA in 1969. They faked six moon missions. How am I supposed to believe
Starting point is 02:03:55 anything from that? Those are not the same people. How? Even if that was true, those are not the same people and Richard Nixon isn't alive anymore. So you just write them all off though, Eddie? Just off that one exception?
Starting point is 02:04:02 You gotta prove it to me. I don't need to believe it. Okay, but... I don't need to believe it. It's not gonna... How is it gonna... I that one exception? You gotta prove it to me. I don't need to believe it. I don't need to believe it. It's not gonna, how is it gonna, I don't believe it, but if it's true,
Starting point is 02:04:09 I don't give a shit. Okay, it's true. Oh, that's true? Okay, but you gotta prove it to me. Otherwise, The problem isn't that. I don't care, I don't care. There's no proof in it. The problem is,
Starting point is 02:04:17 there's no proof in it and you want to always assume that it's fake. You don't have like this empty prove it to me, like I'm not assuming either way. You're assuming it's fake every time. They faked six moon missions, Joe. But that doesn's fake. You don't have like this empty prove it to me. Like I'm not assuming either way. You're assuming it's fake every time. They faked six
Starting point is 02:04:28 moon missions. But that doesn't matter. These are not the same people. Because they're different people they're not going to understand that logic. The logic is just because someone faked something one point in time before you were alive doesn't mean that those same human beings have managed
Starting point is 02:04:44 to download their brains into everybody that ever did that job for the rest of time. Because they're not the same humans. So the people that are scientists that are today, the generations later, whether it's NASA or these Japanese scientists or the Russians or the Chinese, whoever the fuck is putting satellites and rockets into space, they're not the same people from 1969. You can't look at them as one blanket organization. I can't blame NASA,
Starting point is 02:05:06 1969 NASA with Warner Von Braun at Nazi. I can't blame today's NASA for all the lies. Is that what you're saying from the early 70s? I'm saying, do you believe that the space shuttles were real?
Starting point is 02:05:20 No, I do believe the space shuttles were real. Why just that? Yeah. Why just that? Because I saw plenty of video of them. So you think they just believe the space shuttle is real. Why just that? Because I saw plenty of video of them. So you think they just made the space shuttle and that's it and everything else is bullshit?
Starting point is 02:05:30 No, they made the Saturn V rockets and they launched them. Okay, so do you think people went into orbit? I don't know. I don't know how high people are going. I don't know. I'm not sure. I know they're going high, but I don't know how high. So why would you assume that any of it is fake? They faked six moon missions. Okay, you keep saying that.
Starting point is 02:05:45 No, but that's why. Yeah, but we're not talking about the same people, Eddie. But it doesn't matter. It's the same organization. The problem is you've turned them into they. As soon as you say they, you've locked them into a group. Let me ask you, Brendan. Do you see how I can't trust NASA?
Starting point is 02:06:02 Because even though it was different people in 1969 to 1973, even though the NASA of today aren't the ones that faked six moon missions and stole billions of dollars from American taxpayer, just because the guys from today, somehow they got weeded out
Starting point is 02:06:19 and then NASA, I don't know that they got weeded out and then NASA became this honest agency of the government. I don't know that. I'med out and NASA became this honest agency of the government. I don't know that. I'm going to assume no. I think it's still part of the same shit. That's what I'm going to assume. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. Let's say those six
Starting point is 02:06:36 missions were all bullshit and was fake. You're going off the exception, not the general rule. So it's like me coming into your academy and some guy's a dick. I'm like, all those 10th Planet guys are dicks. Like, you're just lumping all of them in the same fucking... That was big shit, though. It wasn't like side project NASA employees.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Do you know what he's saying, though? Do you understand what he's saying? No, I understand. He's saying the same thing you said. He's saying that just because... And what do you think of that? Dude, that was... You don't see the sub-legit?
Starting point is 02:07:00 They're so gigantic and so global and the greatest achievement of mankind. And they don't even have the records anymore. Joe, you know what I'm talking about. We're talking about this earlier, man. We're talking about this early. You know all that, Moon. Telemetry data is missing. Yeah, so you know what the head of NASA on video says?
Starting point is 02:07:20 He says, yeah, we don't have it. It's missing or maybe it's stolen. He says, yeah, we don't have it. It's missing or maybe it's stolen. But even if we did, the head of NASA, even if we did have the tapes, we don't have the machines to play them anymore. So it really doesn't matter. Come on, man. Come on, man. The dumbest retard detective on the planet would be suspicious.
Starting point is 02:07:40 Of that mission, but you can't just lump all, oh, it's all bullshit then. You know what the most, you want to see something, Brendan, that'll make you think this is the most suspicious thing. One of the weirdest things about the moon landing is the post-flight press conference. Have you ever seen it? No. It's really weird. It's real weird.
Starting point is 02:07:55 Well, that one makes sense where if they did fake it. Conspiracy hippo. Conspiracy hippo. Skeptical hippo. Goes, hmm, what the fuck is going on here? So you guys are open to the fact that maybe they faked it because now you're open to the fact that maybe they faked it maybe they did fake that but you can't just lump
Starting point is 02:08:09 and I'm not even saying they did do that that's the greatest achievement of mankind at the time there's a reason to do it but at the time there's a reason to do it we got new people now? come on man that's hilarious how can you see how I can't trust shit from NASA? But it's not that you can't trust shit.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Because maybe all those bad people have died and they're old. And the new NASA, they're the good NASA. They can't all be bad? You're going to believe that? How do we know they're bad? What's better? Believe in that or believe in a guy on YouTube that says the world's flat and dinosaurs aren't real? What's better?
Starting point is 02:08:44 He lives out of his mom's basement. It's not like that's there's a lot of people saying it. Okay all those guys There's a lot of people in mental institutions a lot of people in jail a lot of people that are child molesters There's a lot of people a race If you gave those people videos if you gave every racist person a video camera and put made them a YouTube video you'd be like Oh, have you watched all filled with races? Have you watched history of Flat Earth by? with racists. Have you watched History of Flat Earth by Eric Dubin? Have you seen that? How long is it?
Starting point is 02:09:07 I don't have an hour for that. That's so ridiculous. You're asking for a job. What is their side? What is Eric Dubin's side? I don't care. Fourth grade, my teacher... Hey, you know what? You don't care and that's fine. I'm not going to be mad at you for not caring.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Don't be mad at me for caring, though. I'm not mad at you. You don't care, and that's fine. I'm not going to be mad at you for not caring. Of course not. Don't be mad at me for caring, though. I'm not mad at you. It doesn't make any sense. You don't look into what scientists say. Why are you getting mad? Because you don't look into what scientists say. You just automatically dismiss them all as corrupt. Joe, is this fair to say the reason why you care so much about Eddie believing this shit
Starting point is 02:09:41 and you know Eddie going, I'm crazy'm crazy because he influences a lot of people. Find out for yourself. Look for the truth. Look into it like you're investigating. Just look into both sides. There's a reason why it's becoming huge. There's a reason. Yeah, because people don't really go to school.
Starting point is 02:09:58 They don't learn astrophysics. They don't study all these things. It's hard to learn. The entry barrier is fucking huge. If you want to study physics, you want to figure out... It's a beast. I can barely pay attention to it. I listen to these books on tape, and I have to go back over them three, four times just
Starting point is 02:10:14 to understand a paragraph, try to figure out exactly what the fuck they're quantifying. They're talking about really intense shit that thousands of people have been working on in conjunction. They all feed off of each other's innovation. There's so many people working on these things, Eddie. The idea that they're all in on some sort of a giant global lie is insane. Yeah, yeah. That's what everyone thinks.
Starting point is 02:10:34 Okay. There's no, I mean, there's no winning here. No, there's no winning. History of Flat Earth, look into it. No, definitely not. I can't, sir. I just can't. You watch Game of Thrones, that's not real not I can't sir look into it why Eddie you watch Game of Thrones
Starting point is 02:10:47 that's not real I don't watch Game of Thrones you watch Game of Thrones you don't watch Game of Thrones no there's dragons in it what do you watch Breaking Bad I don't watch Breaking Bad
Starting point is 02:10:54 Better Call Saul nope what do you watch I watch real shit like First 48 but Eddie you're not talking about is that a show but if you watch
Starting point is 02:11:02 Game of Thrones he knows it's fake you watch in flat earth it's fake it's Thrones, he knows it's fake. You're watching flat Earth and you start... Approach it like it's fake. It's entertaining. Approach it like it's fake. But you don't. I'm just having fun.
Starting point is 02:11:10 What do you think? Is the Earth flat around? I don't know if it's flat around until we see a picture from space that isn't fake. You're saying this bitch could be square. I don't know what it is. It could be round. It could be square. iPhone HD camera.
Starting point is 02:11:21 With fisheye lens. You guys are fooled by the fisheye lens? Come on, man. Come on. There's plenty of pictures without the fisheye lens that you could find. This fisheye lens. You guys are fooled by the fisheye lens? Come on, man. Come on. There's plenty of pictures without the fisheye lens that you could find. This fisheye lens, you guys are getting fooled by some basic ass kindergarten fisheye lens. Do you understand perspective? I do.
Starting point is 02:11:34 I do understand perspective. At that high, if you didn't have a fisheye lens, you're looking at this tiny fraction of the surface. The reason why- Take the fisheye lens off. Eddie, they do. This is from 1946. How do you know that's real?
Starting point is 02:11:44 Could be fake. Because it's a picture? I read it on the internet. That's why I know it's real. I don't know. How do you know that's real? Because it's a picture? I read it on the internet. That's why I know it's real. How do you know it's real? I could do a selfie from space like this. That's real? That's real too.
Starting point is 02:11:57 Eddie, would you be open to talking to an actual... I don't care if you believe that's real. I don't care. Would you be open to talking to an actual astrophysicist? Yes, I would love to. What would you do if Neil deGrasse Tyson was here? I would have questions for him. I would have some questions. But would you listen to him?
Starting point is 02:12:11 If he told you some shit that actually made sense? Or would you just think he's a part of getting paid off by the round earth society? I think he's, you know, there's people that they push to be their spokespeople. And there's really brilliant people that are good at talking, and they're educators like him. And then they get on television, and people love it.
Starting point is 02:12:30 And so he comes back, and then he does a hit show called Cosmos that reenacts the Carl Sagan show. And everybody loves it. And more people understand science now than ever before. Because he breaks it down for them. It's hard, Eddie. You know, it's hard because you didn't go to school for this. Don't be mad. I'm not mad.
Starting point is 02:12:44 But, look, I love you, man. I love you. You know I love you. I'm just trying to, I want to be able to talk about flat earth and have fun. Okay, but it's not fun for me because I think there's some 16-year-old kids out there that are listening to this and they think you make sense. And the problem is- What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 02:12:56 Who cares about that? Because those poor kids are going to- What's happening to me? What's happening to me? Am I, my life is going to shit? Wasting time. No, it's heavy. I think it's wasting time.
Starting point is 02:13:04 Dude, you fucking- Come on. Come on, Eddie. You do a lot of shit- I do waste time. That you would consider a waste of time. No, it's heavy. I think it's wasting time. Dude, you fucking. Come on. Come on, Eddie. You do a lot of shit. I do waste time. That you would consider a waste of time if you didn't do it. Some people would. If someone was all into pool and he was obsessed with pool, you would say, you're wasting your time.
Starting point is 02:13:13 What are you getting out of that? Right, but when I hit those balls, I know they're real. They're real. Okay. I hit those balls. They go into the hole. It takes skill and concentration and it gives me something to occupy my mind. It's a game.
Starting point is 02:13:24 It's a mind game and it's a body game. you're watching a fake video the guy made about you think it's made nuclear bombs Not being real it's fake Okay That's what you think okay? I mean I just feel like all The people that study it at all the universities have come to a conclusion. And then one guy makes a YouTube video or 20 guys. There's a bunch of guys. Let's say there's a thousand.
Starting point is 02:13:51 Santos Bonacci is good too. Why would you listen to them versus all the people? What credibility do they have? For generations after generations of studying the science behind it. You got to listen to it. There's a lot of shit. Repeatable science. You got to listen to it.
Starting point is 02:14:03 Right. But you just told us about this one test and you parroted it out as some sort of a theory that we should look up and when we did it turns out it didn't even work it wasn't repeatable okay whatever eddie i love you but i don't like the way you approach these things sometimes because i think it confuses the fuck out of people like i was when i was young i was was super gullible. I believed all kinds of stupid shit and I wasted a ton of time. Like what? Especially with successful guys saying certain stuff. Goddamn UFO
Starting point is 02:14:31 people, man. All those UFO stories I bought and all that shit. I never got into UFO stories. Have you ever heard of the law of perspective? Yes. Do you know that's not real? It's not a law. What about it? They're giving the definition of what perspective is. You know what the law they're giving the definition of what perspective is you know what the law of perspective is yeah i'm trying to tell you though real quick there are
Starting point is 02:14:48 laws of conservation of energy and such in physics there are actual laws that they can be translated without even speaking language it's math the law of perspective is not one of those what is it tell me it's just it's just a definition of perspective i'm asking you what the law i know what it is what is it because it's not maybe maybe well well maybe maybe so you're saying there's no uh law of i'm saying it's not a law as what is it then it's a definition gravity it's a definition of the word perspective yes that's not a law well the laws of perspective are the... One of the laws is the horizon will always rise to high level. To eye level. That's not a law. It always happens.
Starting point is 02:15:33 It always happens. It's not a law. But it always happens. It's a law if it happens. That's not a law. This is where you don't understand part of the laws of science. That's not a law. That's a definition.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Okay. What is the definition? The definition of a noun. It's a person, place, thing, or idea. That's not a law. Okay. That's just a definition. Alright. You know what else is? I used to call this double lotus. For years and years and years.
Starting point is 02:15:59 And it's not double lotus. It's full lotus. It's not a law though, right? But it's not double lotus either. It's not a law though. It's not double lotus either. That law it's not double lotus but you're saying you're talking about a different word for the same move same movie what he's saying the rules of perspective it's not better no no no the rules of perspective it's not better because okay the definition of perspective hold on it's the same thing because whatever you call it you would you have all right well when you look up this stuff online i try to type in the law of perspective because I want to see what you and Eric Dubé believe that that is. The only thing I ever find with the law of perspective is the words flat earth with it.
Starting point is 02:16:34 Or maybe there's actually the Urban Dictionary has a definition for the law of perspective. Now let me ask you something. What is it a matter of it's law of perspective? It's not a law. It's not a law of definition. But they say it because it's science. But if the horizon always rises to a
Starting point is 02:16:50 high level, you can consider that, what would you call it then? You don't believe in gravity, though, either. A thing of perspective. You don't believe in gravity, either. That falls at a constant of 9.82 meters per second. That's the law of gravity.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Gravity is a theory. You guys have a theory of 9.82 meters per second. That's a law of gravity. Gravity is a theory. No, no, no. You guys have a theory of what gravity is. Density. That's another scientific word. You guys say that if it's more dense, it falls. But why does it fall? Why would it fall lower if it's denser?
Starting point is 02:17:16 Because it's heavier than... Why is it heavier? Do you know what... Because it's denser. It's denser than the oxygen, so it falls. But helium, how come a helium... Because it's gas. Helium is a gas. We're only heavy... It's lighter than the oxygen, so it falls. But helium, how come a helium... Because it's gas. Helium is a gas. We're only heavy...
Starting point is 02:17:27 It's lighter than the oxygen. That's why it's lighter. It's less dense. I'll explain. It's lighter because we're in the atmosphere of Earth. Isn't it less dense, though? If we were in space, there is no atmosphere. That's why everything floats. Gases and us. We're dense, too, but we would float in space.
Starting point is 02:17:44 If you do float in space... If we got into space, you're correct. If you believe that, but we would float in space just like gas. If you do float in space. If we got into space, you're correct. If you believe that. Can we not go to space? I don't know how far we can go up. You know the space station. I'm not sure. You said the space shuttle went into orbit. I don't know how far it went up. It went up pretty high. I don't know. I don't know where it went. I know it took off.
Starting point is 02:18:00 Saw that. And then I see it landing. You see that. I don't know where it went. You know it went way higher than a plane right for sure are you not confused on what laws and stuff science are though do you not see that okay we'll call it definition what do we call it we'll call it whatever you want
Starting point is 02:18:15 we don't call them definitions in science there are laws so what is that that law the horizon always rises to eye level what is that? That law... The horizon always rises to eye level. What is that called? In most cases, it's math. In most cases, it's math, the law.
Starting point is 02:18:29 So that math then, that formulaic equation, can go to any country and work. I don't need to speak English to the guy in Germany to explain to him what I'm trying to get out of it. He can test it with the same things, the same variables, and get the same thing out of it. That why all these things are laws not definition thank you for clearing that up for me does that work do you accept that or no i totally accept it people use this verbose terminology because it makes them appear smarter than they really are trying to get a point across no eddie
Starting point is 02:19:00 and they're trying to say it in a fancier way because they really didn't go to school for this shit so they say a bunch of shit that's not real like the law of perspective and it's not a law and it belies the real Problem they don't have an education this stuff. They're just talking out of their ass. They get other disrespectful disrespectful to the fucking Generations of people that have been studying that their whole lives that one guy can figure out all these different things that Dinosaurs aren't real nuclear bombs are real the the earth is flat it's ridiculous it's ridiculous satellites aren't real it's ridiculous it's one guy is this you must be the smartest person in the world well that one guy that one guy that your pals with you love that stuff that guy's got videos on dinosaurs
Starting point is 02:19:41 on the fucking earth he figured it all now. I had him on my podcast. You should ask him how much money he makes off the flat Earth. I'd be interested to know that. He's written a lot of books off and a lot of YouTube videos. I don't know. Isn't everybody making money? I don't know. Isn't NASA making billions?
Starting point is 02:19:54 Well, he's not NASA. Listen, the bottom line is NASA lied six times about the moon missions. I don't believe shit coming from them. That's it. But that's the root of it all. So don't be mad. That's why I don't believe it. You should understand that.
Starting point is 02:20:07 That's one event. Oh, but they're different now. Those guys are dead. So because of that, the most preposterous idea available that every photo of the Earth is fake. And there's no photos. NASA tells you that.
Starting point is 02:20:17 There's no photos. NASA tells you that. There's no photos. They make videos of the composites. They have special videos. They're telling you. You don't find a problem that there's no photos of the Earth being flat?
Starting point is 02:20:24 Not one? There's no photos of the Earth being flat. Not one. There's no photos of the Earth being round either. There's plenty. NASA will tell you they have a CGI artist. How do we skip over that? I think we can't get anywhere with this. NASA can't even get a picture. That doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 02:20:38 That CGI artist was never proved. It always goes back to that for me. Jamie, you didn't see anything in there about the CGI, that article. He just said he puts together data and makes photos out of it. He puts together data because it has to be interpreted because you're talking about 1.7 terabytes. You've got to play the video. You said trigobytes. Play the video of him talking.
Starting point is 02:20:54 The video you told me to play wasn't him talking. No, that was the wrong one, obviously. Is it terabytes or chimes? It's a terabyte. A bunch where he's talking. A terabyte's like 1,000 gigabytes. He says it word for word. He goes, well, it is Photoshopped.
Starting point is 02:21:06 It is Photoshop. It has to be. It's, it's, that's exactly what he says. Not meaning it's fake. It has to be. He's saying Photoshop. He didn't say it in that article. But he did, he did say it coming out of his mouth.
Starting point is 02:21:15 You just got to find the video. Okay. But when you're talking, you know, Photoshop doesn't mean that they're distorting the image. It also can mean that they're connecting a bunch of different images to make a composite. stored in the image, it also can mean that they're connecting a bunch of different images to make a composite. But when you watch him talking about how he put together the official picture of
Starting point is 02:21:29 Earth from space, he's talking about cartoon animation type shit. He's talking about his own imagination. Well, maybe because he's talking about this insane amount of data, 1.7 terabytes, maybe we don't understand how the fuck that gets interpreted into an image in the first place. I don't even know if it's possible
Starting point is 02:21:46 to do it in, you know, like, to have an in-perspective, like, you're looking at, like, a 12-inch screen or a 24-inch screen, whatever the fuck your monitor would be, and you're going to take this 1.7 terabyte image and shrink it down so it fits in there? I don't understand that. You're going to mess with some shit. I don't understand that. All I see is the finished
Starting point is 02:22:01 product. Is it admitted? CGI composite. It it admitted CGI composite? It's admitted. It's not even... But all of a sudden, the Japanese got real ones? The Japanese got real ones? But NASA can't figure it out? Oh, come on.
Starting point is 02:22:14 Eddie, NASA does have one. That's what the problem is. They don't. They keep saying they don't. From 1972. They're saying the only real one they have is from 1972. The one I just pulled up is up right now. There's pictures from today that discover one.
Starting point is 02:22:24 You said that you didn't... Go ahead. Throw some pictures up. I deleted it. I'll get it right back. Okay. You guys I just pulled up is up right now. There's pictures from today that discover one. You said that you didn't. Go ahead. Throw some pictures up. I deleted it. I'll get it right back. Okay. You guys can believe that. That's way cool.
Starting point is 02:22:29 But why disbelieve? Because they lied six times. You believe in the space shuttle, but you don't believe in anything else. That's where it ends. No, I believe in the space shuttle that goes up and flies around. Direct TV. I don't know what it does. Dinosaurs.
Starting point is 02:22:42 I don't know. Here it goes. That looks fake as fuck. April 16th, 2017. Anything don't know. Here it goes. That looks fake as fuck. April 16th, 2017. Anything you guys toss up, he's going to say it's fake. It looks fake. I'm being honest. They fake them all the time.
Starting point is 02:22:53 I see the fake ones. Do you have evidence that you would accept as real? It looks just like the ones that were admitted that were fake. Let's say that. I don't know if it's fake. Let's turn that off. But they look exactly like the ones that were admitted fakes. Will you accept anything? So they're all fake. If they were fake, but they look exactly like the ones that were admitted fakes. Will you accept anything?
Starting point is 02:23:06 So they're all fakes. If they were real, if they lived as real. Can I send you to space? Would you need a videographer with you to shoot the video too? I just want to see something that's real, man. You want to send his ass up there. I've seen a bunch of fake ones, and then you show me that one. That looks like all the CGI ones I've seen.
Starting point is 02:23:21 I don't believe it. Let's try to stick this land up. God damn, this is a motherfucker ones I see. Okay. I don't believe it. Let's try to stick this land up. God damn. This is a motherfucker of a podcast. Jesus. I worry about you, Eddie. I really do. You don't need to, man.
Starting point is 02:23:32 I'm fucking better than ever, dude. You have no idea. I know you're doing great, but I worry about you going down these rabbit holes of thought. What's the big deal? Who cares if the earth is round or flat? It's entertaining to me. I understand. That's all.
Starting point is 02:23:43 What's the big deal? I think you're very influential. Who cares if kids start looking into flat flat? It's entertaining to me. I understand. That's all. What's the big deal? I think you're very influential. Who cares if kids start looking into flat earth? Good. Start questioning shit. If you look into it and you have proof that it is round instead of going, oh, some scientist figured it out. Somebody figured it out.
Starting point is 02:23:55 Somebody figured it out. But you figure it out. You try to figure it out. You know the one thing that all we know? We don't need scientists to figure out as we know a couple things. A compass. A compass points to north. It doesn't need a battery. There's this force. No, no, I know. Let me explain. This is all we know figure out, as we know, a couple things. A compass. A compass points to north. It doesn't need a battery.
Starting point is 02:24:05 There's this force. No, no, I know. Let me explain. This is all we know. This is all we know. It's pointing to the north. It's a magnetic force in the north. That's all.
Starting point is 02:24:15 We know that for sure. I don't need a scientist to confirm that. I know that there's a force in the north, some kind of magnetic force. What else don't I need a government scientist confirmation from? The North Star. It's right over the north. Let me finish. Let me finish.
Starting point is 02:24:32 Let me just finish. Let me just finish. The North Pole, the North Star, Polaris, is directly, coincidentally, over the North Pole where all the compasses are pointing. All the compasses are pointing to the North Pole. There's this magnetic force in the North Pole. And coincidentally, the Polaris... No, I'm just saying the Polaris is directly
Starting point is 02:24:50 over the North Pole. Do you know there's been multiple North Stars? Is Polaris directly above the North Pole? Do you know that there's been more than one North Star over the history of the Earth? Where'd you get that information from? From the internet. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:25:02 So you don't believe that, Eddie? I don't know. I mean, is polaris the North Star North Star let me read this please could explain right now Earth's rotation axis happens to be pointing almost exactly at Polaris But in the year 3000 BC the North Star was a star called Thuban also known as Alpha Draconis and In about 13,000 years from now the precession of the rotation axis will mean that the bright star Vega
Starting point is 02:25:28 will be the North Star. That's according to NASA. That's according to every scientist that studies it, Eddie. How do you know that? Because that's why it's still up.
Starting point is 02:25:37 How do you know every now? How do you know? You just said some stuff you don't know. Every scientist. I don't know? Listen, there's no dispute
Starting point is 02:25:42 about this. I bet Jamie could pull up a hundred different fucking things that'll show you the same thing. On the internet. But it's not just on the internet, Eddie. It's okay if you get information on the internet,
Starting point is 02:25:51 but it's not okay if I get information. It's an information war. That's what it is. If you get your information, there's information on both sides. It's okay. Internet's okay
Starting point is 02:25:59 when you guys look at it, but now when I look at it? North Star changes over time. University of, what is that, Michigan? It's only okay if you guys look at it. Does that make sense? That doesn't make any sense over time. University of what is that? Michigan? It's only okay. 1997. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 02:26:06 That doesn't make any sense. That's not science to me. Why does that not make sense? No, I said it doesn't make sense that the internet only works for you and not for me. No, it works when you keep looking at it over and over and over again from all these multiple sources. Wouldn't you just assume that all these universities- You said over and over and over.
Starting point is 02:26:19 You didn't say- You said over and over and over and over, and then you didn't- Sandy, why are you playing games? This is like you're playing tic-tac-toe. You're not looking at the truth. You're playing like a little jiu-jitsu game here. Hey, if you want to believe NASA after, you know they fake six. This isn't NASA.
Starting point is 02:26:32 It's all government science. Okay, why does the- It's all government science. You tell me then, why does that compass point towards the north? I don't know. We know there's a magnetic force- Magnetic force. In the north pole, right? know it, there's a magnetic force in the North Pole.
Starting point is 02:26:45 And we know the Polaris is right over the North Pole and the constellations rotate around Polaris. Polaris is a fixed star and they all the constellations rotate around that. And it's right over the North Pole. How much time have you spent going over astronomy? How much time have you actually
Starting point is 02:27:01 spent going over astronomy? Is that not true? No. Explain, what did I say wrong? You and Eric may repeat that over and over again, like the sky doesn't change at night. No, no, what I said, I never said that. I said, does the North Star, does the Polaris star stay ahead over the
Starting point is 02:27:18 North Pole? Yes or no? And do the constellations rotate around Polaris? No? Yes or no? The constellations don't rotate, no. No, they spin around. When you look at time elapsed rotate around Polaris? No? The constellations don't rotate, no. No, they spin around. When you look at time-elapsed photography of Polaris, you could watch time-elapsed, all the constellations go around. Polaris is the fixed star. That's why you could find your way around, just find the North Star.
Starting point is 02:27:35 It doesn't move. Explain that. And if the Earth is spinning like we know it is, what's directly above the Earth would stay the same because the Earth is spinning faster than space is. Earth is spinning 1,000 miles an hour in a circle. Even though the cosmos is spinning, the cosmos changes as well.
Starting point is 02:27:52 There's a lot of things that change. And the sky looks different all the time. Polaris doesn't change. It stays right over the North Pole. But if you were spinning, and you're talking about a small window of time, when they're taking these time-lapse photographs, they're taking them over a few hours. Yes, but... Do time-lapse photographs, they're taking them over a few hours.
Starting point is 02:28:05 Yes. Do you understand that? That if you're looking up over a few hours and you have one light that's directly overhead and the other ones are circulant, the one light that's directly overhead over a few hours is not going to move enough to register in the photograph. But the ones on the sides are. When you're looking at a time-lapse, you're looking at a time-lapse over a few hours. If you were looking at a time-lapse over hours. If you were looking at a time lapse over months or years, you would see that thing spinning too.
Starting point is 02:28:28 Polaris would still be in the same spot. No, you'd have the precession of the equinoxes. It changes the rotation of the Earth. The Earth wobbles on its axis. They've been tracking that forever. You could watch time-lapse photography on YouTube. Are you not listening to me? Time-lapse photography
Starting point is 02:28:43 is over a few hours, Eddie. Over a few hours, you can watch time lapse photography is over a few hours yeah and and over a few hours you can see the earth constellations and miles an hour you can see constellations circling around polaris that's one motion right you you capture one motion in that time elapsed photography but science is telling us that there's four motions going on there are they're just much slower you're talking about something that you're looking at that's very quick over a very short amount of time. But year after year, decade after decade, Polaris is in the same spot. None of these stars are staying in the same spot. You gotta
Starting point is 02:29:13 find one of Polaris. Why? Where's Polaris? Where's Polaris? Find Polaris. And then find the time-lapse. Because that's the only one that isn't moving and everything's going around it. Eddie, what are you looking at right there? When you see that, that time-lapse photo of space. I see shit spinning. Right.
Starting point is 02:29:28 The Earth in the sky is up there. Is the sky spinning, or is the Earth spinning? What do you think? I think the sky's spinning. Jesus Christ. Why would people be lying about that? I think those lights are moving. Why would they lie about that?
Starting point is 02:29:41 Look, right there, there's Polaris. Right. You know why? Because it's in the center, Eddie. Yeah, exactly. It's always there. It's like a 30? Because it's in the center, Eddie. Yeah, exactly. It's always there. No, no. It's like a 30-second picture.
Starting point is 02:29:47 No, you're talking about something that happens very quickly. But all those other constellations are moving really quick. Eddie, it's the ones directly overhead. Okay. All right. If you have a ball and you spin it on your finger like Michael Jordan, the outside equator of the ball is going to spin like fucking crazy in this big, long, wide loop. But the tip of the ball is going to spin in very short tight circle right when you see the Harlem Globetrotters
Starting point is 02:30:11 You can test it yourself Eddie if you just point a camera in the same spot out of your window for like three months straight Take a photo maybe even Example to test it for yourself to show you that the start the stars in the sky that you'll see above your head, like you've claimed to go out and look out every night, will be different throughout the year. No, no, no, no, no, no. They won't be different. They're moving. They are rotating.
Starting point is 02:30:33 They are rotating around Polaris. They're not going to be in the same spot. Because they're rotating. They are moving. Okay. They are moving. But you're always going to see Polaris. Why would you think that this is a conspiracy?
Starting point is 02:30:44 Why would they lie about the Earth spinning when it's really the universe spinning? Are they not stars? They're trying to control us. I don't know. What are they? I don't know. People. LEDs? People looking down. I don't think they're LEDs. Grandpa, grandma. Are they aliens? Happy people. They're souls. They're angels. You're telling me my grandma's out there? Flying unicorns, bro. Your grandma's flying unicorns. I haven't even told you the craziest shit. Oh, shit. I haven't even had nothing to do with Flat Earth. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 02:31:10 I haven't showed, no. What's the craziest shit? Can't tell you. Crazier than Flat Earth? Crazier than Flat Earth. Why save it? I don't, I want you guys to make fun of me. Come on, blow my mind, Eddie.
Starting point is 02:31:19 I don't want you to make fun of me. You guys already making fun of me for Flat Earth? I've never made fun of you. Yeah, but I'm trying, I'm just listening. I just don't, I just don't trust NASA. I understand that. I don't trust NASA. You have a circle of trust.
Starting point is 02:31:29 You want to hear some crazy shit? No. You promise? I'm scared. Can we end on this? Yeah, let's end. Okay. No, I want to end on the crazy.
Starting point is 02:31:35 I want to end on crazy. You sure? I'm here for next time. Yeah, just don't make it long. Drop it now and we'll go into it next time. Drop it and then cut it. If you drop it now, we'll never make it out of here.
Starting point is 02:31:42 No, drop it and then cut it. It's six o'clock. I know. I just want to drop it and cut it. Oh, shit out of here. No, drop it and cut it. It's 6 o'clock. I know. I just want to drop it and cut it. Oh, shit. Yeah, it's 6 o'clock? Yeah, it's 6 o'clock. We'll save it for next.
Starting point is 02:31:50 Unless you want to hear it now. I don't know. It's too crazy. It's too crazy. Let's go. Do it. Let's go. Do it.
Starting point is 02:31:56 It's too crazy. Okay. It's really, really crazy. We'll talk off air about this. Holy shit, my head hurts. It's so crazy, it'll discredit the flat earth theory. My mind can't handle it, Eddie. Everything is a conspiracy.
Starting point is 02:32:09 I left this one to you guys. You need a t-shirt that says everything is conspiracy. Life is a conspiracy. You make Alex Jones look like fucking Gandhi. Fuck yeah. Alex Jones, 90% of the conspiracy theory is like, well, that's all bullshit. But Eddie just fucking. You gotta appreciate
Starting point is 02:32:26 The hustle by Eddie You'd have the ultimate Alex Jones is like a blue belt Conspiracy theorist You'd have the Wow I can't believe you said that Wow Let's end on that
Starting point is 02:32:33 Let's end on that Good night everybody Much love Blue belts are fucking badass Much love Oh man I didn't I didn't...

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