The Joe Rogan Experience - #964 - Everlast

Episode Date: May 24, 2017

Everlast is a Grammy Award-winning American rapper, singer, and songwriter. His latest project Warporn Industries is available for download now at http://www.warpornindustries.com

Do do do do do do do four three two one My brother and the man who got me in the Instagram if it wasn't for you I would have abandoned it remember you won and I still got like 40,000 followers and you got like four million I don't have that many. I don't I don't think I have two million got two men Whatever you got me into it man. Hey Sláinte. Sláinte. What does that mean?

You say that all the time. Sláinte is like the Gaelic-Irish salud. Oh. Sláinte. You know, it's that. Sláinte. It's like S-L-A-I-N-T-E with like one of them crazy marks on it. Oh. That's a...

So Gaelic... Gaelic is a fucking crazy language to read or try and pronounce some shit They'll be like somebody's name will be Gary and it'll be spelt with like 17 letters Shit Crucifixes ruins what's that was crucifix with the circle? I was just I think it's among those ruins and shit. I don't know dude does anyone speak Gaelic Can you go have a conversation with someone in Ireland people do for sure so it's like

Like I'm sure it's a dying lost kind of fading away thing, but there you'll find pockets that definitely do It's fucking crazy when you stop to think about how many different languages. They are like have you done much touring in Asia? Really only Japan I haven't hit I've never been to Korea never been like China China. Never been in Indonesia or anything. That's not. Yeah. Indonesia. Yes. Sort of what I mean? It's really the foreigner experience when you're there. Like, I am the obvious outsider. I'm taller than most people, and I'm Caucasian, you know, and there's a lot of places there. Like, I'd try to go to, like, I'd get the lowdown on a sushi spot from somebody that I knew there, and then you'd go there and be like,

oh, no, no, Kaijin, we don't serve y'all here. Like, still places like that, you know what I mean? When you're trying to get the down low Anthony Bourdain treatment. Like if you ain't Anthony Bourdain, you might not have no luck. You don't show up at that 0.0 crew. Yeah, man. It's just they're so different than us in their culture that it's like this crazy immersion into an alternative world. Like Japanese writing is so different than American writing.

The sound, their languages are so different than American writing the sound their languages is so different than the sound of English then when you go there you're like wow this is like like I'm literally peering into a coexisting alternative world like what if ever look what if there was no different languages it was just language like everybody knew what everybody spoke right and your language was the sounds that they make and the way they interpret things and the way they interpret things shapes the way they look at reality for sure that's i mean it's a weird like our culture is in a lot of ways almost like an operating system i think terence mckenna described it that way and i think it kind of makes sense

it is like an operating system yeah we learn a basic set of parameters and rules that we all kind of, yeah, we're all individuals within it. But like there's, you know, hey, you know, in this society, this is what's acceptable and this is what isn't. And here's how we peer it. And then when you see something like we were talking about this book, Dear Reader, Michael Malice, who was on yesterday, who was just amazing podcast guest, but was talking to us about North Korea. Like that's a different totally different operating system and that shit is going on right now right now there's like a whole country that's in prison yeah what's amazing to me is that that many people can be subdued to in that manner like where's you know you all you read throughout history is like you know people

got sick and tired of some shit after a while and just bucked up. Yeah. Where are they? What, what is going on there? What mastery do these dudes have that it's crazy. I mean, I look at that and there's millions of people that are starving and still accept and this dude's living in his whatever golden palace, whatever kind of lifestyle. Yeah.

And nobody's really like trying to revolutionize or start a revolution or buck up and make them a cool would be a problem because I think the old guys around them are even crazier. Well, Malice was telling me why. He was saying that the way their society is structured, everybody reports on everybody else about what you did wrong. Like if you and I were hanging out together, we'd be forced to report at the end of the day. I would have to report on everything you did wrong. Like maybe you didn't cry long enough when something happened maybe you didn't express enough grief like you have to there's like rules to the way you grieve people who didn't grieve hard enough got six years six months rather of hard labor for not grieving hard enough when kim

johnny yeah whoa that's so they tell on each other so they have this crazy culture of telling the podcast was fascinating man that dude is a really really interesting guy scary that's a world that's happening right now it exists yeah and next door south korea which is thriving and pop culture galore yeah crazy plastic surgery those girls all get uh those not those all of them but a high percentage of girls get their eyes changed. They get this crazy surgery that makes your eyelids, they shrink your eyelids so they don't have the Asian look. Oh, they're trying for more of a round eye thing. They're trying for more of an anime thing.

Oh, the big eye thing. Have you seen it? I think I have, but I don't think it was an Asian girl. I think I saw some girl on the internet who's trying to look really much Oh, I know what you're talking about. That's that Barbie lady, right? The Barbie lady? It's crazy. Yeah, there's people that go deep. It's like how do you think like that? How's your brain working? I mean that you're not looking in the mirror and seeing the same thing. I am this is your this is giving you satisfaction I don't understand. It's just body dysmorphia

It's the same things like a person who's a bodybuilder who just can't get big enough or a woman who can't get fake enough breasts like they keep wanting to get bigger and bigger ones you don't see yourself how everybody else sees you so it's almost like a disease and i think that um it's always funny because i always thought i was a pretty fucking awesome dude yeah well you have what's called self-esteem should pull those pictures up. Check out what they do. See if you can see good ones. Three reasons

why Wong Jin plastic surgery for eyelid surgery. But show some before and afters. I see a little one right there. They're kind of crazy.

Some of them are kind of crazy. They look like a totally different human. If you went to high school with her, you'd be like, what?

That seems totally normal right there. There's been some extreme ones. But her whole face is different shaped at that point, the one you just passed. Yeah, well. There was more than just eyes done there, man. It's interesting.

You're seeing that younger and younger girls are having that kind of stuff done, too. Whoa, damn. Whoa. That one was very successful. That was a good decision. Yeah, it was an excellent decision. But how do we know these are real?

That's another thing. We could be getting fucked with. Holy shit, look at that one. This is something I wanted to talk to you about. How do we know? It's like, how do you know what the fuck is true anymore? It's almost impossible to know. Because everybody's mastered the half truth.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I got a piece of the truth, and then I spin it the way I want to spin it so a certain amount of people are going to see it that way. That's how they really... I trip on this whole system right now. I don't give a fuck

about Trump, Clinton, any of that. Fuck all of them. They're all lying crooks as far as I'm concerned. Right. But game on how they have blue states, red states.

We're like Bloods and Crips here. And they're making it more like that every day. Like the hatred between this blue and red. It's like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, it's like people who got along just six months ago are now at each other's throats. And there used to be a thing when we were young. When the new president was elected and he became president, we all kind of sat back and said, okay, that's our president.

Let's see what happens. And I'm not saying, we're not even going to get into dude. Right. We're not. I'm talking as just as a principal. Right. That's that exchange. But we all sat back and said, OK, let's let's give the guy a shot at least.

Right. And again, we're not even I'm not even interested in getting into the individual question. Right. That doesn't exist anymore. It's like the minute this dude's president, the next fucking campaign starts. And like, it's fucking crazy. Is it as crazy as I think it is, Joe? Or am I just sitting at home?

Everything is as crazy as you think it is. Like in a dad world of taking care of these babies and going on tour. And I just turn on the TV and it blows my fucking mind. It's blowing everybody's mind, man. I mean, there's a weird line that's happening now, too. And this isn't really even a criticism. but newsweek had an article that they tweeted and the article shows how melina rejects trump's hand i mean this was kind of awesome i saw it it was kind of slapped it away it was cool it is kind of but who knows what's going on maybe she gets public anxiety and she

doesn't like holding hands when she walks. It doesn't necessarily have to mean anything. The fact that it's a fucking story that Newsweek tweets out is strange. I think CNN had it on, I believe. They got a whole article after hand swat.

I mean, this is nothing. It's like they touch hands for a second. Back it up again. I'm no Trump supporter here, but look, Newsweek, I'm not. Don't get me wrong. I don't think there's anything wrong with what you're doing. I don't think there's anything wrong with putting this up. I watched it.

I'm glad you put it up. That's why they put it up, because you would watch it. It's not news, though. I'm not criticizing. We are all part of the biggest reality TV show ever created in the universe now. Yeah, it seems like. And created in the universe now. Yeah. Donald Trump is the host. Yeah.

And this man is actually living out his goddamn fantasy right now. Like we have all given this guy. And again, I don't care. I'm not even going to say hate, love, whatever. Fuck them all. It's fascinating. But this dude is like king of the fucking universe in his mind right now. There's nobody can fucking touch him.

And that's the fucking that's why the show is going to get so hilarious it's just going to be great well i think he's he's not that stupid like he's aware that there's been a lot of criticism he's trying to iron things out but what he's doing is he's taking this approach that he's made become this real estate magnate this you know big tycoon big businessman which is like he was always this rambunctious, sort of flamboyant personality, right? He always put his name in gold letters on these buildings. And we didn't mind that when he wasn't running the country. Just when you run the country

and you start doing the same stuff, like the criticism that he's getting is kind of, you can't kind of do the same thing when you're the president. You can't like talk about how shows are number one because you watch bigger than yourself thing it's a bigger than yourself thing you just nailed in fact you have to let go of self to a certain degree you know i mean to be a good one and i'm not i'm not gonna say you one guy's been better than the other we all know we have our opinions on that shit you know i mean honestly i i grew up in an age where politics and religion when

if it was going to be bad news you didn't bring it up with people you liked. You know what I mean? And now it's just the hatred I see, like even from people I respect. The red and white, red and blue hatred. Yeah, they're crippling and blooding out here hard, man. Hard for their parties. And it's stupid because none of them care about you. None of them want anything from you but more of your tax money no matter how much they're going to tell you, they're going to cut your taxes. You know what I mean? If they're going to find a way to fucking get that money, they might make it look good to you.

But hey, guess what? Middle class family, $36,000 a year, whatever. Here's two grand you don't have to pay in taxes a year, which it seems a lot when you're in that level of living. You know what I mean? Yeah. I blow that on fucking sneakers, I'm ashamed to say. You know what I mean? you're in that level of living you know i mean yeah i blow that on fucking sneakers i'm ashamed to say you know i mean but the point is they don't give a fuck because they just stole it out the back

end of your health care or they just took it off the top of not rebuilding all the roads this is their game they run the game until these motherfuckers come up with some shit where money comes out of the politics i don't respect any of it i would like to think that some of them have your best interest in mind that there's just a crazy competitive system and that we maybe you know maybe it's just like what the system makes like the system kind of makes corruption because of lobbyists because of the way it's set up it's almost like you can't pull it out of it i totally agree with you that there's plenty of good ones yeah but it's legit it's just like cops i know a lot of cops and they're all good guys i think there's more good cops than there's politicians.

But when the shit storms pop up, they don't buck out and say, like, you know what? That was wrong, and go against what the group of cops or politicians is saying. Either one. I could be either one. They side even in wrong times when they shouldn't. Where are those voices? I want to hear them. Don't you think there's way more good cops than there are politicians?

That's where you get respect. Yes, I do. I do. But my point is, there's a code. Oh, yeah's where you get respect. Yes, I do. Than there are politicians. I do. But my point is there's a code. Oh, yeah. I know what you're saying. And that good cop will fucking not shit on a bad cop. Maybe he won't back him, but he still...

There's a time when you got to shit on that thing or that person or that act. That act. And there's this code in politicians and in cops where they don't call out the bullshit. Yep. You know what I mean? And that's where I lose all the respect for everything. It's like, yo, and I just sit back. I'm on some Carlin shit, man.

I got a front row seat to the freak show. I'm going to watch it go down. You're asking them to do the impossible job. You're asking them to be around violence and lying and danger. And they're the enemy. You're asking them to be the professional enemy to professional criminals. That's what you're asking them to do all the time. And so, like, there's a reason why they bond together like that,

because they're all in the war together, and it's us and them, and it's we on the outside. I don't think we understand what the fuck they go through. That's why they have this bond with each other. No doubt. You wouldn't want that. You really would want that. But there comes a time.

You're right. And there's been a few of them lately in recent history, where there should have been an overwhelming condemnation by a smaller group of that group's actions. Like a perfect example is that Eric Gardner case in New York, where they choked that guy who was just selling cigarettes. They didn't have to do that. There was no reason to do that. That guy didn't even have any cigarettes on him. The thing was fucked up they were saying he wasn't complying why should he comply he didn't he wasn't doing anything you can't and when you watch the video was he not complying enough to die you know what i mean well i think the dude had like an asthma

attack or something but obviously i think they also had a fucked bar they did they had a choke on his a weak ass choke though it was more like honestly did. They had a chokehold. It was a weak-ass choke, though. It was more like, honestly, I mean, it was a chokehold, but it was more like the way he was applying it was like a restraining thing more than it was, I want to see it. Let me see it again. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. But without a doubt, the forearm is under the neck.

Like, if I was calling it in a fight, I would say, this guy's getting choked. But it just didn't have to do that. Let's not even go down that road. But the point of this conversation, I believe, was just saying like, oh, that overwhelming larger number of good folks, whether it's cops, politicians, soldiers, whatever. Right. I do believe that exists, that the majority of them are decent, good people. Yeah.

But when the shit hits the fan, they don't collectively say, that's wrong and that's fucked up. No, they all band together and say, all right, we'll try and bury this and hide it or just deny it kind of thing. And that, as a group, loses you respect when people are, you know, that are interested in justice

and interested in fair play and interested in that, see these things happen. They lose faith. And I think there's no faith in anything right now. The way I see the division in this lose faith and i think there's no faith in anything right now the way i see the way i see the division in this country all that there's no faith in anything i'm hoping it's just a wave and it's going to come back it will i mean that's what i'm i'm thinking that we're going to react i just hope it doesn't come back in really fucked up ways because sometimes when that wave crashes it breaks shit yeah it does well it

shouldn't. The problem is it's so easy to think that we're against each other. It's so easy to dig your heels in and argue one side or argue the other or pick a team and be totally committed to it. Whether it's red, blue, or whether it's black, white, people get on these goddamn teams. We do it men and women. Did you see it?

It gets real divisive online with people separating men and men, women, like criticizing men, all men in general, criticizing women, all women in general. Absolutely. It's the same shit.

It exists, whether it's Democrat versus Republican, it's, it's the same shit. Vegan versus carnivores. It's the same shit. People pick a fucking team and they fight for it and they think they're right. And they have many, many good reasons for thinking they're right but i think all of us are way

better off if we're taught about these team ideas early and recognize when you see them in yourself and do some like self-governing and absolutely avoid those avoid those and we'll find common ground on a lot more shit than we think. It's pretty much, we can sum that up, but think for yourself. Yeah. Especially when you're bombarded the way we are now. That's another thing about how we started this conversation is how do you know what the fuck is really true? If you really want to know what the fuck is true or at least get a good semblance of it you have to look at

more than one fucking thing if you read some story on facebook that outrages you and fucking makes you so pissed off maybe it was intended to do that maybe you should go look further look down the road look at a paper you would never look at look at i i like to look when i when i get interested in the news which isn't as much as it used to be because i have my own things which i'm sure we'll get into uh i try to be like all right i watch i see cnn is on at my studio a lot without the sound because we'll be making music and whatnot and mostly i just read the ticker because if you know nowadays news is on the ticker opinions are what are coming out the fucking speakers when the when the personalities are talking news is just the facts that roll, scroll along down on the bottom.

And, you know, there's some spin on it and whatnot, but I try not to listen to the talking heads because they, you know, Fox has two pro-Democrat guys that no matter what the Democrats do, they're going to defend it, and CNN has a couple of Trump guys that no matter what goes on,

it's a game. Right, they have their players. It's a game, you know what I mean? It's all a game. It's a television show. I their players. It's a game. You know what I mean? It's all a game. It's a television show. I was watching it not too long ago when CNN came on after a commercial and the studio was lit up red and Korean stars were everywhere. And there was nuclear missile launches like pictures in the background. And I was like, oh, my God, what the fuck is going on?

Did they just launch missiles? And nothing like it had happened. They were just discussing the possibility of the future of if they got a missile that was capable. And it's like, this is, and people are tuned into this shit. And it's that, like I said, it's on in the background because I just, God forbid that breaking news you want to know. I mean, it's reality TV, honestly. And again, it's what we're talking about. People acting as groups.

And I ain't acting above it either. I watch it. I see it. It's entertaining we're talking about people acting as groups and I ain't acting above it either groups. I watch it. I do too It's entertaining to me. But my my my my Deeper self brain whatever you want to call it the whiskey starting to fucking talk to me right now So this is that has a conscious my conscious my souls, you know Evaluates why I'm being entertained by it and finds it disturbing a lot like and wants to say like hey man We should all fucking take a step back and i love you because you the love shit i mean i always have had love in my life i've been a very fortunate

man but like coming in here as grown men and you when i first started doing your podcast you would always be preaching love and you know i mean joe rogan's a tough guy he kicked the shit out of 90 percent of the fucking people around he's not interested in it he just wants to love your life is better if you just have a bunch of people you care about really it started me down a path dude where i was like i've explored almost every religion you know i mean there is um and i and i don't really practice any but i have a philosophy that's taken its own good parts from all right and um lately i've been reading a lot of Buddhist stuff. I'm not a Buddhist at all, but like this Thich Nhat Hanh guy and a few other things I've been reading.

But these things are also kind of started here because connecting with you in a weird way made me open my mind up to like, there's a lot of things we don't think alike at all on. You know what I mean? But that doesn't that's that doesn't fucking matter well i like talking to people that i don't necessarily agree with but i respect that's like one of my some of my favorite conversations that's the best kind when you can get that and that's the point of what they're trying to keep from happening in this world whether i mean just this whole online shit has taken us yeah there's a lot of great things that have happened from this but this social networking shit is anything but social we're working it out you know it's anything

but social well for a lot of people it's just way too distracting there's a lot of wicked evil just venom that like you know i've learned from either very once in a while every once in a while i'll catering i'll let a dude know online, like, hey, motherfucker. You really don't know. You know what I mean? Like, hey, whatever. You really don't know. IP addresses are easy to, you know what I mean? That kind of shit.

And you know what? Nine times out of ten, when I do fuck up that rare occasion, it's a Joe Rogan fan that's like, hey, man, take the high road, dude. Ask Joe. You know what I mean? And I'll be like, oh, fuck, yeah, I should. All right, you're right. And boom, that's over. That kind of thing. You know what I mean? And I'll be like, oh, fuck, yeah, I should. All right, you're right. And boom, that's over.

That kind of thing, you know what I mean? This show has been like a real serious, not just a show, you, me and you having a little friendship. Because I've hung out with you a lot since. It's been three years. We've hung out a lot, though. That's what was weird. We were trying to figure it out.

We're like, why does it not feel like three years? Let me explain three years now. Since I couldn't come in for a while. And I explained this to you on the phone and when we hung out a couple times. My mother was passing from Alzheimer's. And then when she did pass, it's like I was emotionally incapable.

I couldn't even have said those words. I would have been a blubbering idiot on your show. I'm sure. And, you know, whatever. Some people might have been like, hey, that would have been great radio. Fuck that. You were the one that said,

hey, get your shit together. You know what I mean? Because I wanted to come in here and be able to talk about it. I don't think I said it like that. That would the one that said hey get your shit together do you know i mean because i wanted to come here and be able to talk about it like that that would be like joe get your shit together so your mom's dead no no whatever bro it's us talking you know yeah that's how i said it i know what you mean but it would be more like you know because it was i went it was the last four years probably started probably the last right I stopped, the last time I came on the show, there was like a big lawsuit over Jump Around that I actually wound up winning,

but like, it froze money that I depend on. Right. Like, mailbox money, we call that. You know what I mean?

Those checks that just kind of come in and Jump Around's been really good to me. Dude, Jump Around is one of my favorite hip hop songs of all time. It's the 25th anniversary this year, the whole first album, so,

but point being, that got froze up. I got a little weirded out when I first started hanging out with you because I was such a fan of that song. I was like, I can't believe I know this dude. I remember you were weirded out when I lit a joint in the club in Vegas. And you were like, what are you doing? I was like, what do you mean, what am I doing? I'm lighting a joint. No, let me explain how it went down.

Everlast goes, he goes, you want to get high? I go, fuck yeah. And I go, where you want to go? He goes, he goes, you want to get high? I go, fuck yeah. And I go, where you want to go? He goes, go. He goes, yo, we ain't going nowhere. He just lights the joint up. But he looks at me like sideways like, go.

Sparks it right in the club. And I was like, oh, this is hilarious. That was that night. Wasn't that that same night that you performed on stage and there was a bunch of musicians That had never worked together on stage Dave Navarro was there Oh yeah no that was

They had Camp Freddy They had like a band Where they just did a bunch of covers And I remember being fucked up And they were calling Weren't they calling me a bunch of times though But they were like Everlast is in the house right

And I was like three or four times Before I wound up Did you do what it's like Did what it's like Yeah Dude that was a fucking great night. That's us.

Oh, we're barbecued. There we go. Oh my God, I can't see my eyes. That's exactly the spot we were smoking the joint in too, right?

That's exactly where it was, man. I just never remember you looking at me sideways and going, go. Go? Where the fuck up?

Go? What? Am I hiding in the bathroom and go. Go? Where the fuck up? Go? What? Am I hiding in the bathroom and smoke a joint? Get the fuck out of here. I tip way too good for that bullshit. That's hilarious. Especially in Vegas. Yeah.

If any place in the world you're going to be an outlandish tipper, be there because you'll get away with murder. Almost literally. And that. The valets will say, all right, the cops are on their way. You better get the fuck out of here I'm sure they want to keep

them chucks coming cops are coming whether you like it or not imagine being a cop in Vegas Jesus Christ regardless how many people

they have down there robbing casinos and shit crazy movie style heists crackheads meth heads with masks on

and machine guns and shit taking over casinos but um oh I was talking about so that i was like so my money got froze so i was having to bust my ass crazy hard like on the road trying to make up the difference for a while and then my mother started going way downhill kind of fast over two years you know it's like dealing with that that is anybody going through that is

is you know gets i mean there's a lot of things that go on in my life that get my heart sent out to those people. But watching somebody you love just disappear, it was tough. Yeah. That was perspective, right? It changes your perspective. You realize that this is how it ends. I had a lot of guilt involved because with a kid with CF, I couldn't have my mom in home with a nurse and any infections that she could. She was getting lung infections all the time.

So I had her in a home, a really beautiful home. They took took a magnificent care of my mother but there was a lot of guilt i was i was freaking for a while like with a lot of darkness that i was swimming through and i got it just wasn't good for me to come through and then you know and then after she passed and like leila's just been like uh learning you know i'm only just me and my wife now. It's she's seven years old. And I think I'm not saying we got anything licked or cut, but like the life we have to live. We've been able to figure out with our cystic fibrosis. Yes.

With the cystic fibrosis. Oh, cause it's all, I mean, it's heavy. There's a lot of shit you got to worry about infections and any common cold cause center to the hot hot it's like so much pressure on a person to to do that it's it's it's my wife and i like you know i won't fucking make it funny we we've been very close to the brink a few times but we've finally gotten to a stage where it's like no none of that's gonna break us you know i mean we're good and we're good and we're good in this life and there's and we accept where we are and we're gonna make sure this this

young lady is is gonna make it that's beautiful as deep and as far into this life as she can you know and there's been some medical innovations too right haven't they're working on some stuff man there's there's a couple drugs that aren't quite for her yet because this drug has in the on the dna level of the chain there's there's mutations leila has two different mutations one's called the uh delta f 508 i believe it is you got me high and a little drunk here but like sorry no no no people know people who know no it's easy to find out she has the most common that's the most common one like the delta 508 and then she has this other uh weird kind of offshoot one there's one some people have a double what they call a double delta

there's a drug right now that's really working well for the people with the double delta they're starting to experiment it on on it for people with the single now does she have to be on some a special diet like uh the only diet we just need her she needs to they have a problem gaining weight cystic fibrosis they um uh they don't process fats properly they have to take enzymes with everything they eat so gaining weight's a real serious issue um leila actually has a g-tube a feeding tube that she gets six shakes protein shakes a day pumped into her stomach oh wow um she again if you my daughter very rarely is down about this, she'll have her moments. Don't get me wrong where it's like frustration and anger over her, but it's,

this is life. She's never known anything else. So it's like at the same time, like we post a lot about it. We've made that decision. Layla has her own page. People are free to try and follow it. If my wife will approve you, if you can get by the security clearance her thing is leila l-a-i-l-a beauty 09 she wanted her own page because we started i've never posted anything without asking her right even when she was like barely able to understand i tried to be like can i post this picture a lot of people will see it and she'll say okay daddy and now she might you know she's sharp and about a year or so ago she was like i want my own instagram page i want to share my life like cystic fibrosis with people and so she's doing that and we this is may actually a cystic fibrosis awareness month so

we've been posting and she happened to be in the hospital the last 10 days she's home right now recovering um i sent you an article on assisted fibrosis treatment what was that it was a while ago i don't know but my wife and i are i did it involve cbds i don't remember because a few people have sent me things and we're investigating some stuff on that level right now because there are a lot of good things going along with this because it's one of the it's one of the best anti-inflammatories there are with no side effects and all kinds of stuff we're not using it on my daughter yet but we're investigating like what kind of uses there are you i forget i might have to go back through my emails or whatnot and see i remember you did send me something i don't remember if it was cbds or

stem cells or some shit all levels right now there are a lot of levels they're working on on the stem cell level there there's a lot of things going on where it's like if they can create correct things on a cellular level at some point, it's going to be... Yeah. There's never going to be a cure. It's a genetic disease. So you can't say cure in that sense.

You know what I mean? Like the way it works is the two people that father the child have to each have the gene. All right? So me and my wife are known as what are known as carriers, which we never knew because we've searched our whole history

after we found out. Nobody in my family's ever, ever had this. Nobody in her family's ever, ever had this. But we're known as what's carriers. So when we got together and we had a child, there's a one in four chance that child's going to have cystic fibrosis. There's a two in four chance they're going to be a carrier. There's a one in four chance they have nothing at be a carrier. Oh, wow. There's a one in four chance they have no nothing at all, which is our other daughter, Sadie.

So we kind of represent the whole spectrum. Like our family, you know, Layla, her mom, me and Sadie, which is another reason like I'm not having six kids because I love being a dad. But it's like two cystic fibrosis children in the same household is even, and a lot of people do it. It's hard because they pass infections and it's very, it's, I can't even imagine how the people with multiple two or three kids with cystic fibrosis pull it off. I hats off because I know what it's like with just one.

That's gotta be, um, not just, it must be changing you as a person like think about like how much more compassionate this has made you and how much more appreciative of health i've had to also accept and learn how to deal with a lot of anger yeah a lot of anger like um i consider myself a pretty spiritual person like i said i've explored a lot of religions um i find religions confining you know i mean i believe in a greater power greater high whatever something bigger than us i kind of believe in that you know whether you want to call it god

or just our connected collective energy you know whatever it might be somewhere in between their lies something greater than us um i felt for another reason the last three years is, is what's the captain's name in a, in Forrest Gump? Captain Ed is, or no captain. Whoa. What was the captain's name?

Lieutenant Dan. Lieutenant Dan. Lieutenant Dan. For the last couple of years, I'm Lieutenant Dan on the top of that fucking sailboat. Like, fuck you. That this is what you're going to do to this little kid.

You know what I mean? Watching my child suffer. You know what I mean? And there's greater, there's huge injustices in the world. And, like fuck you that this is what you're gonna do to this little kid you know i mean watching my child suffer you know i mean and there's greater there's huge injustices in the world and and let me tell you another thing having to take my daughter to children's hospitals all the time i see people that have it worse do you do you know pendulet do you know oh yeah i'm a huge fan i don't know him personally but i'm a huge fan he's a great dude but one of the things he said to me i'll never forget he was was talking about The Secret. Do you remember when The Secret was this big movie?

The book and the movie, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was about the law of attraction and people were going to manifest their own destiny and they were going to make it happen. And everything in your life, you created in your mind. And he was like, fuck you. You're telling a young, sick kid that she made that herself she made that she made herself have leukemia she made herself have cancer you're telling me that fuck you yeah fuck you and when he said that i was like wow i never thought about it that way but he's totally right that's exactly

what it is like you can't that's ridiculous you're dealing with a bunch of people that have become successful and told you why because i saw it happening what about the people that saw it happen and it didn't happen this is bullshit are a far greater number by the way yeah it's a part of life it's not the whole key to manufacturing a life it's an excellent like being a positive person being healthy having a good vision and focus all those things are like contributing factors but kids that are sick are the monkey wrench in any idea that we've created our own reality i don't buy you can't make a baby responsible for cancer that's crazy you also

can't make a god responsible for like god has a plan you know know what sometimes there's not a fucking plan sometimes there's a glitch in the goddamn matrix and you just got to deal with it. You know, you got to handle it. And the more important thing for me, that second most important thing in my life, other than keeping Layla as healthy as possible, is making sure she knows that, you know, she can still achieve. you know she can still achieve and all that she can you know she's at an age now where like she kind of and i you know i'm not trying to have her hate me in 10 years if she ever hears this like for giving up her business but like she's in a stage right now where she's very resentful of she she expresses it well she'll she'll say i hate this i hate that i have this i just want to be normal i just want to have a normal life and it fucking rips your heart out man but you can't you have to say hey hey you are normal this is your life your life

is normal it's like carly i'm a big carling guy you know i know you're a studied student of it but it's like he had his routine where it's like about being homemade or all natural he's like everything's fucking all natural right no matter what you do with it, it's all fucking natural. And that's kind of how I try to approach it with. It's like you are normal. This is your normal life. You know, you're not any better or worse. Or, you know, I mean, you have to.

There's there's fights. People fight that you don't even see, Layla. You know, I mean, you don't understand. Yours is obvious. Yours is right here in front of you to fight. Some people are going to fight demons. They'll never meet. Yeah, there's a phrase on that. What is it comparison is the enemy of happiness thank you i'm fucking gonna

use that joke thank you that's uh i know that i'm gonna look it up and i'm gonna find out where it comes from find out whose quote that was comparison is the enemy of happiness i really like that that's a very useful the inspiration sentence you should get inspiration from other people but comparison is not really healthy who is it theodore roosevelt said comparison is the thief of joy oh there you go perfect that's so somebody probably me i probably fucked it up but that's even better yeah goddamn theodore roosevelt you bad motherfucker he was a badass motherfucker motherfucker writing with charging up the hill in San Juan, all that shit, man. Comparison is the piece of the world.

Talking about the first Roosevelt, Theodore. The other one was... Well, this is the guy that made the... He set aside the national park system. He set aside... Theodore Roosevelt is the reason why we have the Grand Canyon. Which our current guy is trying to fucking dismantle. Not the Grand Canyon.

I know Cam can't be happy about that shit. No, everybody's upset about it. Shout out to Cam. What he's trying to fucking dismantle. Not the Grand Canyon. I know Cam can't be happy about that shit. No, everybody's upset about it. Shout out to Cam. What he's trying to do. What up, Cam? He's in Alberta right now. I know. I see him giving you a hard time, Cam,

and he's so nice. He's the nicest guy ever. He's nice. People threaten him. Hey, look, this guy's threatening me. Would I threaten you? I wouldn't threaten you, and I could probably kill you.

But I wouldn't eat you. That's why I won't kill you. It's a lot of people in other countries, man. A lot of people that get mad about his hunting pictures, they're from some other country.

A lot of them are from South America. Cam, you're going to be a god when the electricity all goes out. They're going to be coming to you, man. They're going to be

coming to you. He'll be happy as fuck. And I need a recommendation on a beginner bow. I can hook you up. Oh, there. They're going to be coming to you. He'll be happy as fuck. And I need a recommendation on a beginner bow. I can hook you up. Oh, there we go. Joe's a bow man now. Dude, I'll get Hoyt to send you one.

You really want to learn? Yes. That would be the shit. I do. All right. Well, next time I'm hanging out with John Dudley, I'll have him come and coach you, and we'll make a little video. Let me know.

Maybe I can attend. Maybe I can jump in. I want him to coach you and teach you how to shoot. That's that would be perfect we'll do it we'll make that happen we'll make that happen yeah so that's three years kind of a lot condensed reader's digest version as i emotionally was unprepared to be here and hang out and have fun i would have been like the i would have been the like episode that everybody's like oh you got to hear this heart-wrenching fucking oh my god well it's heart-wrenching now man but i'm glad she oh, you got to hear this heart-wrenching fucking, oh, my God. Well, it's heart-wrenching now, man, but I'm glad she's doing better.

No, but it's heart-wrenching, but I can stand here like a man and be like, look, I've been through it. You didn't want to see me. And it's like, you didn't want to see me cowering in the foxhole. You know what I mean? Now the battle's over. It's like, yeah, I cowered in the foxhole for a little while, but then we got out and we won the battle. Or, you know what I mean? Right. That's where i wanted to be before i came and i and i didn't have any and i know i didn't need anything to promote but all of a sudden it's like

i did this free project and i was like i really just put it out and my fans have found it but the response has been so good behind it it's like i want to get this out there a little further so it gave me an excuse to be like i I think it's time for me to be on the podcast again. And if you want to buy a CD, they still make CDs. No, you can buy these maybe at our shows. If we bring them there and we charge

basically what they cost us to make them and ship them wherever we got to take them. And try reading that shit. Yeah, you can't read it. That's the point. It's fucking gangster calligraphy. Shout out to Big Sleeps. Shout out to Big Sleeps. Whenever you can say shout out to Big Sleeps, you win. Yeah, there you go. Shout out to Big Sleeps for

the calligraphy. That's gangster stuff. If you can't read it, you weren't built to read it. That's all it means. I get it now that you've explained it. I can read it now. It's like, just picture like old school, old English calligraphy and then mix with gangster letters. Yeah. And you can see it. I struggle with the, just picture like old school, old English calligraphy and then mix with gangster letters. Yeah.

And you can see it. I struggle with the R-N. Because it comes back up. Like, it comes down and then it bang, bang. That's his artistic, that's art, man. I understand. Let me explain this project. I think he might have made up a letter.

Let me, let me, no. That N seems to me like a made up letter. That's some Gaelic shit. It's just old school. That N is actually pretty old school English. Old English. English you know what that is Jamie does that look at end to you at the end looks cool that looks like an end to you where do you see the end the end here wait a minute that's not the are but where's the fucking are it the R is this oh my god is ridiculous that's the That's the R. That's the end. Here's your loop. Here's this. And then it just comes down.

Here's your P. Your P is the R without the arm down. Listen, it all looks beautiful. Don't get me wrong. First of all, I don't give a fuck. First of all, if you can't read it, that's why it's art. And it's gangster shit. If you go to Pico Union, those guys will read that shit like it ain't, it's easy. They'll be like, oh yeah, that says war porn. Oh, that's hilarious.

But the point is, I was struggling to make my next singer-songwriter-ish hip hop. I was kind of revisiting the Whitey Ford formula a little bit and expanding on it. But I got kind of stuck halfway through. Because I was just, after all of this stuff that I went through, I thought it would be smart to just I kind of. Another thing about cystic fibrosis is really isolating because you get really protective of your child and other people who are sick. I mean, I remember at first I used to come and be like, everybody's going to be all right at the studio. Right. Nobody's sick. I mean, you know, I trust you now. I know it's like if you were sick, you'd tell me.

But you still I understand what you live that life and after a while you get tired of asking your friends every five seconds and so you the invitations to hang out become a little less it's not an intentional thing it's this slow kind of isolation of yourself my friends didn't do it to me i did it to myself right and i'm coming out of that now like i'm hanging out with a lot of my old friends and seeing things which is great but so like i was stuck in the studio it was just me and like an engineer kid who i had a guy that worked for me for many years who moved up north and then i i had this new guy who i who's good at his job but it was like i there was no but you're kind of your own boss right so how do you decide when you're going to go into the studio how do you decide when you're going to write just well because i don't know how you

think about life because we don't live by the paycheck rules you know what i mean we so i'm thinking six months out i know i'm good probably right now i could sit on my ass for a year before cash ran out right let alone Let alone other stuff. So, but I'm always thinking six months. All right. Like if I creating something now that's going to generate, like you're writing your next stuff for whatever your next special is going to be, you know,

what do you get out? One of those, two of those a year, like a solid hour. I mean, am I, when I boil it down after two years, it's like a real good hour and 10 minutes.

Okay. So that's what I'm saying. So you're thinking on kind of that time level. You're like, I'm working this out to get to this point. That's what my schedule is now. Every two years. You know, anybody who follows my career, whether it was House of Pain or Everlast, it's like I've never been less.

Like some cats are like clockwork with their product. Every year or every year and a half, there's an album. Bang, boom, boom, boom. Me, I've had two-year intervals, three four year intervals one you know never a one year interval never i'm never that guy i have to be inspired i have to but i know if i'm not creating something at some time the show money which is what i live off of now basically besides the mailbox stuff um gets smaller as long as long as're, if you can always just, you don't even have to have a hit

at my stage of career. You know what I mean? I don't need hits. I just need new material where it's like, I got something to promote that gives a promoter in Europe. I do a lot of work in Europe.

I do more work in Europe than I do here. Do you really? Yeah, yeah, way more. I'm about to be six weeks in Europe. Wow. And I gotta leave literally day after tomorrow.

Whew, that's a long time. First I go to Napa, actually. I got a festival in Napa and then I come home for a day and then I go to Europe literally day after tomorrow. That's a long time. First, I go to Napa, actually. I got a festival in Napa, and then I come home for a day, and then I go to Europe for six weeks. Napa's a trip. I do well in pockets in the United States, and there's a lot of places. Like the South, I think I would do great, but I've never gone. Promoters don't know what it is. I don't chase it.

I hope I'm not all over this. I've never chased this. I've never chase it. Here's the point. I hope I'm not all of this. I've never chased this. I've never ran it down. I'm where I am because I just looked at the signs on the road and said, oh, go that way. And I go there. I'm not the guy who thinks I'm the worst social media. I got 40,000 fucking Instagram followers. I've sold millions and millions of records.

I don't try. I don't know what it is. I get extreme amounts of joy. I think we talked about this on the first podcast i ever did that my music is more famous than my face like that i think because i did say like i like to go to ralph's and get at the olive bar and just fucking get olives and nobody knows who the fuck i am and jump around is actually playing in the supermarket or something you know right it's fucking hilarious to me i love that that steve that Steve Miller was one of the greatest rock stars of all time because nobody knows what the fuck he looks like.

Take the money and run. This is a story about Billy Joe and Bobby Sue. What does that guy look like? Because I'm a smoker. Because I'm a joker. I'm a midnight toker. Yeah.

The Joker. Jungle Love. That was another great jam. Damn, he had some great jams. So I'm sitting in the studio by myself, stuck. A friend of mine asked me to do a feature on his rap record, which I really wasn't. I don't do a lot of that anymore. How long had it been since you'd done it?

Well, I mean, the first La Coca Nostra album, I was part of the whole album. That was a few years back, right? That was 08. 08. 08. And I've done a rap here, a rap there for friends.

That's a long time to go between that and war porn. Yeah, yeah. Your new project, War Porn, when did you guys start that? What happened, I'm getting to it, is this cat asked me

to, I'll even shout him out, just do Ryu. Plenty of shout outs on this show. Jamie, maybe a record number? Like the fighter from Street Fighter. You know what I mean? Ryu.

He has an album out. And I did a song on there. And it came out amazing. I was so in love with what I did after all these years. Like, wow, I busted a fucking really dope rhyme on that thing. Him and I, I was like, yo, we should do a little mixtape thing just to help promote this whatever, whatever. Something happened. He just couldn't be involved.

And then I immediately thought of my friend and partner now. This guy, Sick Jackin, from a group called Psycho Realm. Two excellent names. Sick Jackin and Psycho Realm. Yeah, he's going to come next time. I called him today and I was like, yo,'ll tell you space if you want to come do this. There he is, the ball guy right there. And then Divine Styler did all the beats, and he rhymes on the project.

But the way it came about was like when dude couldn't do it, Divine already was making the beats. I called Sick Jack. I was like, yo, I got this project. He came, heard all the beats, and we literally made this record in like a week. Wow. He came heard all the beats and and we literally made this record in like a week Wow and Divine styler a short background. I would not be in this business. I would not be making music if it wasn't for that man He's the first guy that ever told me I could rap I used to want to be a graffiti artist He was an amazing graffiti artist

and I was just following him around as like a 16 year old trying to learn like styles and shit and I would bust raps because they were making music to like fun of shit, like your mom or this or that. And they would always be like, yo, you could rap. You should make a tape. When you do graffiti art, does it get you high? No, not really. I mean, maybe after a while, you might feel a little different. But you wear masks and shit.

Oh, do they wear masks? Well, now they wear real ones. We used to just tie bandanas. Oh, OK. Because I would imagine if you're standing there, like some of those... I passed by some of those in downtown LA. You're not really enclosed. If you were like in a room like this and tried to

paint that whole wall just with no ventilation, you probably would. But this is mostly outdoor on the wall, on the bus, on... In LA, the scene was like down... We had a yard. Every crew, you'd have a yard somewhere, like in an industrial area between buildings where there's like a brick wall and two buildings and you'd just bomb

it. It would be called your yard. Right. You know what I mean? This crew's yard or that crew's yard. And you'd sneak into other crew's yards and you'd like bomb over their pieces. And that's not good, right? It's like, it's a game almost. It's a game? Except it's a little more Yes, if they caught you for sure. Well, that's not good. Kick your ass and steal your paint. Oh,

no. Yeah. You know David show is you know David That's I love David show man. David's got these crazy fucking videos. He's putting up on Instagram now for him throwing paint all over the place Oh yeah We fumes he's high on paint fumes someone save him He's going crazy like he's in like some industrial building just I love that dude taking a trailer like running it around like He's so far out there There's no map no one's got a map David show land. I mean He's got a cart and he's just pouring paint on the ground

But it's a savage. He's also super smart. He's a great This is on purpose. This is there's purpose to what he does man. I that no david he's a sweet sweet guy like i really like him as a person i don't know if he still does it i did his podcast i think i did his podcast because he heard me on yours and he was like come and please bring the guitar and you know he does him now and bank some i take very serious pride in the fact i'm the first guy to ever do music on this thing. And I think, is Honey Honey the only guy? Other people that have really done music? Yeah, Gary Clark Jr. brought his guitar, but never played anything. I'm a huge fan, dude.

I love that guy. He's the best. He's such a nice guy, too, man. Oh, man. I fucking love that dude's music, man. I'm really a big fan of that dude. I'm a big fan of him as a person and as a musician. And I went to see Honey Honey honey played in downtown la they had

like this midnight show on a wednesday night and um gary clark joined him on stage and gary clark jr and honey honey god damn it was good and i was like you know 10 feet away and there was 100 people in the room and it was gary clark j jamming with Honey Honey. It was, he's one of the baddest motherfuckers on the guitar ever. He is right now. He has a beautiful sound. Like he's got such a distinct, oh, here it is. Jamie's got it on, I put it on my Instagram. I think I remember this.

Like you hear this and you know it's him. Is there a bass player? Damn! Am I just not seeing him? Well, the bass player is the dude in front of us. That's Ben. He's just playing another rhythm guitar. Is he playing another guitar? Yeah.

Oh. Yeah, that's a guitar. It's not a bass. He didn't pick up a bass? Oh. Well, somebody's putting down some nice low end. He must have that EQ'd. Somebody has an EQ.

It sounded good. That's all I was making a point of. Yeah, man. God damn, dude. I don't have a bass player. My keyboard player, Brian, who comes through here, he's got the meanest fucking left hand on the keys. He plays all his keys with the right and the bass is left.

Oh, wow. That's amazing. We're a trio now. When I do my band stuff, it's just me and two other guys, drummer and him. That's amazing. And we sound like six guys. It's crazy. Gary Clark's got his own sound. You know what I'm saying? You hear his sound. Steve Ray Vaughan is a perfect example of that. I hear some steve ray vaughn and i'll hear like one or two bars and i'll go that's steve ray vaughn he's got that sound you know this is like a certain slide yeah yes yes yes he came in and played on on an album of mine on a couple of songs uh love warren the ghost of

whitey ford and he came in with this little Crate amp head which crate is not a fancy company. It's like a cheaper back not cheaper I won't call insult him but like it wasn't like super hot It was like some regular fucking head and this one pedal and the sound I was like how the fuck Did you get it? It's just something some guys have a magic man Some guys have a magic about the sound me i play acoustic that's what i'm best at i i know how to make that sound good there's i have electric guitars but i can never get my i could have that same fucking guitar as gary clark jr right there and the same equipment and set it the same way and it probably won't sound the same yeah it'll sound in the neighborhood

but i'm saying there's something there's some people that just got a inherent magic about feel on an instrument you know what i mean it's crazy what's amazing about someone who can play an instrument like that is that they're making some sound that it syncs up with our brains so well it syncs up with our hearing so well that it just gives you pleasure you know and by the way folks that's with an iPhone can't microphone and camera I mean that is a terrible recording device as far as like getting good audio quality so when you they're getting really fucking good there's more computing power on here than there was it when they supposedly sent people to the moon you know to the

moon Alice supposedly do you think they sent people on the moon? You know what? That's one of them things. How do you know the fucking truth? But I'll tell you one fucking thing for sure. The earth is not flat. Fuck you. See, that's where it gets tricky, right?

How do we know? Dude, look at the moon. These scientists could all be in for hoots. Look at the moon. That's brown, but wouldn't be interesting. So what is it? If we were the only one that wasn't, and that was the argument. That was why everybody was trying to, hey, I'm just trying to see both sides. Okay, all right.

I'm just asking questions over there. I'm cool with it. It makes for fun arguments. The moon landing is my favorite. At the end of the day, moon landing is suspect to me. Let me say that. There's a lot of things I see on TV that are suspect. Hey, I saw a movie maybe 15 years ago called Wag the Dog that fucked everything up for me.

Like, when I see the news, I see Wag the Dog all day long. That was a great movie. Yeah. And then, do you remember when the CIA came out that the CIA had paid half a million dollars? To make the fucking ISIS videos. How much was it? Was it half a million dollars? $500,000?

Yeah. It might have been more than that. Am I, like, how much was it? Was it half a million dollars? $500,000? Yeah. To make, it might have been more than that. Am I like way selling it short? Was it like $500 million? No, I think it was half a million. How much was it? I think it was half a million to make videos. But still, like to make homemade looking videos, it was like half a million dollars.

That's a lot of money. I think it was more than that. $540 million. Maybe it was $5 million. $540 million. Half a billion, yeah. Half a billion. Oh, fucking.

Okay, thank you. What? When I said $500,000, I was like, no. That it was 5 million. 540 million. Half a billion, yeah. Half a billion. Oh, fucking. Okay, thank you. What? When I said 500,000, I was like, no. That sounds cheap. Yeah, half a billion. Half a billion. Yeah. And so what they...

First of all, stop and think about how many X-Men movies you can make for half a billion. I mean, what kind of a shit return on your investment is it making fake Al-Qaeda videos? You know what that isaeda videos know what that is know what that is right there that's two motherfuckers the guy who owns that firm is the buddy of somebody yo that's that's the thing I was talking about earlier where they figure out how to get the fucking money anyways that's it that's it that's the kind of shit I'm talking about well that is about as clear as example as you can get where it's 540 billion back when remember that what it was 20 years ago when they came out with the whole thing where like Pentagon was paying like $1,000 a hammer and like toilet seats

were like seven grand. You know, it was like anything. Right, I remember that. $540 million is a crazy number too. That's like, wait, what the fuck? Jesus. What are we talking about? That's a lot of money, man.

Oh, war porn. Hammers, war porn. So like I said, Dev Divine, he's my mentor. He's like, back in the day before, it used to be if you were the son of somebody, that was like your mentor. Now it's kind of almost like they treat it like an insult. I'm the son of Divine Styler in this game. That's how I look at it. I learned style from him.

I learned how to rap from him. He encouraged me to do it at first and then i went on my own journey so coming back to do this project with him was fun this was strictly just in my mind an art project like literally we're gonna give this away we're gonna we're just gonna make a few cds and make some fun art to surround it and you know it'll call it a day and then it came out amazing and i'm not selling myself short the shit is fucking banging hip-hop and it's free and you can get it at war porn industries.com and click on the mixtape and download it it's free well i've been enjoying the videos man it looks like

you're having a video while we're here we're gonna play a video we got three of them so far good time too it's the been the most fun i've had in forever it's the point of like what like i said i was i was stuck in this rut and then these guys came into my studio and brought it alive again and i realized it's communal yeah what i do even even even when i'm trying to just express my own thought and idea you gotta it's communal you need some people around you that are gonna you need i'm sure guys like joey diaz are this for you. Oh yeah. When you have an idea for a routine or a joke, you'd be like, what do you think? Should I pursue that?

There's a guy that you'll turn to and he'll be like, fuck yeah. That's the move or fuck no, don't do that. It's better when there's a lot of you. You feed off each other. You have fun. And you, you also like, it's very important to be happy for other people. Seeing other people kick ass should make you feel better. And being around bad motherfuckers makes you better.

We express it like this in the studio when the three of us are. By the way, the official name of the group is War Porn Industries. War Porn is the first record. Why War Porn? What does that mean, man? Because it's fucking, because exactly. What does it mean, man? Because exactly.

Because everything's War Porn. Turn on your TV. your tv it's war porn i'm reading this uh script i'm even more confused this script no it's the same thing we just separated it and made an arc out of it's too confusing oh well good the logo is badass though i'm an old man tristan eaton let's shout out tristan eaton logos dope but that that just going to reaffirm ideas of devil worship and pornography. You people are, you're monsters. You're what's wrong. I intend to scare you. About as dope and manly an image as you can get.

There's a skull where the pussy should be. There's thighs staring back at you on the legs. It's a death's head moth is the overall concept. Right. And there's fishnet stockings involved with guns. That's the spine of the wing. Shamrock. Tristan Eaton, he's a fucking's head moth is the overall concept right and this fishnet stockings involved with guns That's the spine of the wing Tristan Eaton. He's a fucking badass army studs dope as fuck atling guns I would wear that I would consider getting that rocks To that somewhere like I might it might be my my back piece. It might be right there. That's a good back piece

That's a strong back piece. No bullshit, but straighten out the words I'm just kidding keep it as is it's your lingo imagine going to japanese people and go hey man your language is fucking too weird english can you use english use ours but um so we got a few videos what you got up right now you got anything close to up which one is this one we got three videos so one let's crank this one the first one was called world's videos. So one. Let's crank this one. The first one was called World's End. Do we want to go in chronological order?

I'll go with that one. We should if it's a piece. Sort of. Here we go. Shout out to John I mean Chad Marshall Von Poe Shot the videos Shout out to Grandpa

From the Great Beyond I hope you're looking down Having a good time Up there in heaven With Cheezus There's a shot at the There's an abandoned Missile silo Apparently at the top's an abandoned missile silo

Apparently at the top of DeSoto In the valley Really? Yeah, yeah Dusty finger diggin' the crates in puff rhino Whiskey breath tatted on flesh, no rough rhino War pouring out of your deck, it's all I know We shit on your idol, crosshairs finish your vitals Eliminate all rivals, homie, this is survival Crime wave title, dictate, poem, recital

Sick psycho, homicidal, music my title From that downtown apocalypse, rockin' this with cartridges Full clips, trade bullet, random who the target is Bystander, my standard, the way you're the starving kid Stay hungry, that's how the kids, they killin' this with cartridges Full clip, straight bullet, random who the target is Bystander, my stand in the way of the starving kids Stay hungry, that's how the kids, they killin' all of this Ominous, not common, is the key to dominance OG, only wait for me, I got some time in this Mirror my society, the beauty and the violence

Is what I miss, and you hear it clearly when I'm rhymin' this When I'm rhymin' it Sick Jack is one of the most slept on underrated MCs ever Technical weaponry, rhyme style heavenly Learn my pedigree, burn my effigy Spit my therapy, smoke my remedy Passive aggressively, choke my enemy Prope my reverie, provoke my devilry Bucket list trilogy, war porn industry

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War porn, it's streets in the building, baby It's that old man rap Dude, I like it God hammer merciless Sonic rock turbulence It's that old man rap. Dude, I like it. God hammer merciless. Sonic rock turbulence. Armors on gunmetal matte black surfaces. Squad with the virtuous.

Charge for the murderous. Bars for the dark hearts lost in the urban grip. Torn from the flame of a gent to unilaterals. This profile of the new world is ominous. Broken equilibrium. Americana promises. War porn risen from the ash of the bottomless And watch, dystopian, rock from the fallopian The mire for the entire empire's deconion

Shit is Nickelodeon and it made pandemonium Quickening of arbitrary death of associates This is war porn banging at colloquium Get your dog blown off the hinge and quote to him Blow my brains out remotely from the podium Great cerebellum, decorations of the holiest Seven levels of heaven are ceremonious Nine levels of hell are for the lowliest

Fabricated, modified, mass hypnosis Floating hallucinations while I'm sitting in a lotus You should come with me to the end of the world You should come with me to the end of the world. You should come with me to the end of the world. You should come with me to the end of the world. Yeah, man, we've had a blast, man. We're going to make many more records. Like, I'm back in the rap game now, dog, for a minute.

Dude, it's cool seeing and hearing you rap again. It's fun. It's exciting. It's fun. I really enjoyed your transition into more acoustic stuff. I'm still doing that, too. Yeah. This is fun.

This is unadulterated for me. You were talking about you need cats to push you. Our goal in the studio is when Sick Jack comes off the mic from saying a verse, he wants me to look at him and be like, fuck you. So you compete against each other. Oh, fuck. Dude, your lyrics are outstanding. Your lyrics are sharp.

Both those dudes that are on either side of me in this are retarded with it, man. If you really sit back and analyze. Devon Styler speaks in tongues, man. I don't know. That dude's on some super scientific. And Sick Jack is on some street level hood shit. But the way he puts it together is so crazy It's almost like we're a representation of like almost like physical like

Mental and spiritual like mine's more mental like you guys are like see no here evil here no most It's a weird car together and when we get together All three of us will tell you it's it's combo together and when we get together all three of us will tell you it's it's the the energy that we create with each other yeah we don't find it anywhere else we we've we're addicted to this right now we that's why i'm telling you there's gonna be way more we're already working on the next one so well i think that can't be overlooked man because i think that there's a you get a lot of the people that you're around all the time and i think you're a different person when you're around different people. Absolutely.

I'm sure you experience that, right? Absolutely. And I think that being around a bunch of bad motherfuckers on a regular basis like you are in war porn, like everything is probably like, everybody's sharp and everybody's not, everybody's also aware of the full body of work. You're all real hip hop fans. So you're aware of like Nas's best shit.

Oh yeah. And Jay-Z's best shit. Absolutely. And the bar gets so high and so sharp the edge gets sharp so like that riff right there that's that's like one of my all time favorites that i've heard in the last couple of years thank you man i honestly feel like like in in my opinion you know and i come from a certain era i give that to people you know there's a new era of kids and i don't shit on them or hate them they have this whole thing hating on these kids calling it mumble rap and i don't i don't really got a problem with

it you know i mean my only problem is like hey there's certain cats that are kind of disrespecting the past and it's like hey be you be new be different that's cool be what you want to be but don't fucking shit on cats like biggie and i'm not even gonna call out names and all this right but anybody who's listening to me and and is really hip to the game knows there's these youngsters that are kind of almost trying to they're almost trying to make noise by disrespecting and it's like listen the path that was walked before you is the only reason you could fucking wear that fucking cheesy fucking shit jewelry you get and fucking act so ignorant you know i mean and go to the met ball and gala and all this when you ain't nobody and next year you're not going to be anybody at the met met gala you know i mean you're just this

year's fucking like not novelty i don't know i don't know your business that much but i'm just talking about the music game in general they shit on the older dudes have been around there's a lot of youngsters that are like don't know the history and i don't say you need to know biggies every album but don't fucking come out and shit on biggie you can't you can't don't come on shit on pock but don't come out and act like they didn't exist or you don't know the history. And I don't say you need to know Biggie's every album, but don't fucking come out and shit on Biggie. You can't shit on Biggie. Don't come out and shit on Pac. Don't come out and act like they didn't exist or you don't know anything about them. That's unfortunate. You know what I mean? And they're few and far between, but they've made big headlines.

And that's why there seems to be this disrespectful hate for the young. I don't got that. Because listen, I always said, I just don't ever want to sound like that old fucking bitter dude. Right. I'll tell you, I don said, like, I just don't ever want to sound like that old fucking bitter dude. I'll tell you, I don't like that. I'm not a fan of that song or that guy. But go do with you. I might be old.

Maybe I don't get what you're doing. You know, as I've gotten older, I give less of a fuck about what other people enjoy. And when I was younger, I had to, for some reason, I felt like I had to argue what I enjoy versus what you enjoy. And that doesn't make any sense to me's like we're all so fucking different the idea like you meet people and personalities vary so much in other words we're all gonna like the same shit let me qualify what I was just talking about actually because really what I was talking about wasn't young people if you want to be if I want to be perfectly clear what I was talking about was people my age that I hear throwing a lot of hate and a lot of just like, oh, that ain't rap or that ain't hip hop. Maybe not to you, but you really just sound old and bitter. You know what I mean? Let them kids get theirs. You know what I mean? I made the record I wanted to make. I didn't try to make a record that designer or future or any of these cats that are doing it now would make because that would look stupid i would look like a thirsty idiot right because that's not what i do that is

what they do to sort of shit on it is shitting on them and i don't know them i don't know anything and honestly i've heard future records and i've heard designer records and they're not the worst things i've ever heard i'm just not a fan i just don not my thing. It's not garbage. And I don't like when I hear people just calling shit out for garbage that isn't garbage. If it's garbage, call it garbage. Like Mr. Brainwash or something like that. That's garbage. You know what I mean?

You don't even know who I'm talking about. I don't know any of these people, but I do know what you're talking about. You know, here's a beautiful thing. I had to throw shade. That wasn't even cool. No, it's a beautiful thing. I had to throw shade. That wasn't even cool, but I meant it. No, it's not at all. I would tell you. I don't know what the fuck's

going on in the rap world, but what I do know is if that's what's happening. I wasn't even talking about rap. He knows. He's laughing. Tell me what you're talking about. He's an artist.

He's a painter, like fake fucking street artist who stole everything he ever did from anybody. Did you see the Banksy movie? Oh, Banksy. The guy that fucking faked it till he made it.

That's who I'm talking about. Okay. He's garbage, dude. That's garbage. I understand. That's garbage. You have the right to be offended. Is there somebody in...

All right, you know what? For you, it's the equivalent of Carlos Mencia. That's Mr. Brainwash. Okay. Okay? Exact. That's a perfectly legitimate... Coalation?

Is that the right word Correlation Thank you I know what you're saying I'm talking Two glasses deep into Jack Daniels single barrel rye You owe me a case now

Jack Daniels Send that shit right to the crib This is where we got this being y'all can't drink it there i see the commercial y'all can't drink it there send an extra case this way to the joe rogan experience isn't it amazing that we're like interested in stuff that like sits in barrels that have been fire brewed like they they take fire they burn the inside of the barrels right isn't that like part of the process of making this stuff a lot of the new shit too is the darker versions is like some people you um actually get the the whiskey

that's soaked into the wood and somehow get that out and that's where you get these dark versions of like um what jameson cask mates and uh other stuff like that and then there's a new there's a new uh movement or i don't know how new it is I'm talking out of my ass a little bit because I've had a few. But where they like buy old ale, like Guinness or like beer ones, and then put whiskey in those. Really? Yeah, yeah. There's like where they kind of cross. Jesus, they're crazy, these kids today.

I just love the fact that that's how you make this. Like, I'm not selling this, but like when you talk about like a whiskey. I'm a JMO guy, but this is nice. This is nice. Look, it's an acquired experience. Sick Jack is a Gentleman Jack guy.

He loves the Gentleman Jack, so I'm hit. Kool-Aid tastes good. This is an exotic mouth experience. Okay. It's like there's something going on. Have you gone to a tasting, like a scotch tasting or something like that? No, because I'm a grown man who has other things to do. Go to a scotch tasting.

Get the fuck out of here. It all tastes like fucking turpentine. Like some of it tastes okay. It's not Kool-Aid, right? It's not Gatorade. I only like a couple. There's a lot of them I don't like. I don't like to admit it, but I like a cold Coke One.

You know one of those? Coke Zero? Is that what it is? I called it Coke One. I know it's, but sometimes that is what I want. That tastes good. If that could get you drunk. Oh, here's a funny story.

So, my wife gives me a present the other day and it's like this keychain with this elongated like metal tube looking thing on it and i open it up and it's just empty and she's like i just thought you know if you smoked a joint you could put it in there and it wouldn't stink up your car and it was a smart idea trust me but i'm looking at it i'm looking at it and i'm like babe um i think this is a coke vial actually i think that's really the intention for this she was like you know what's funny because there were smaller ones too and i thought that's really small i wonder what that could be for now it totally makes sense so i got this bullet looking thing i put joints in it but it's like it's a coke vial dude you imagine

what would happen if they made coke legal like a long time ago Like how much would how much would culture change if coke was like beer? If you just I mean you could drink yourself to death we all know someone who's drank themselves to death I Think our obesity problem would be be kicked. I'd probably be the weight I wanted to be. I might be closer to the weight I really truly want to be. I have a theory and my theory is that

much like how you take sugar out of things and then just have like processed sugar and you eat it. It's terrible for your body because it doesn't have all the natural fibers. It's very dangerous like you're like you get fat It's not dangerous. I'm not saying it's like nuclear power But my theory is that I bet those coca leaves are exactly the same way

I bet if you just chew those coca leaves like those people do up in the mountains. I think it's great for you I think it's just like eating fruit is really good for you right now. I give you have a bowl of fresh blueberries That's not just because it has some sugar in it, that's really good for you. Rich in antioxidants, rich in vitamins. Strawberries, delicious, good for you. Not bad for you, good for you. But spoons of sugar, inarguably not good for you, right? I mean, not the worst thing.

It's processed, though. You'll figure it out. What you're talking about right there is something processed versus something that's natural. Yeah, it's exactly the same thing. I would actually, with all my heart issues, I got a heart valve. If you sat two plates down and a plate of Coke and you said you had to do one of these and here's some Coca-Lees, I'd be like, oh, fuck, I'll chew those Coca-Lees all day. I want to experience that, man. I want to know what that's like because they use it.

Things I've read about are like pets that work in those, because that's mountainous area. They're like chewing them all day and work and do shit. It's like coffee to them in a weird way you know maybe a little you know i don't think it's stronger than coffee man i don't think it is i think from everybody that describes it they describe it as like just a mild stimulant and it makes you feel good and it also has like what do they call flavonoids you're also chewing on it it's getting your saliva it's dissolving you're processing it through a digestive system instead of just banging it straight to your brain in a

powder form. You know what I mean? Obviously, I'm speaking way out of line here. I don't know anything about science. And how many coca leaves does it take to make a wine? That's another thing you don't know. That wine might be 400 coca leaves. Like how many strawberries does it take to make a tablespoon of sugar?

Exactly. That's a good analogy interesting This whiskey's really nice feeling good god damn this California marijuana is also very effective. Yeah, I can't complain I can't complain, but there's a video and we sparked up again There's there's the whole thing right there of this whole new a I've smoked my fair share of some dabs and whatnot here. But now we're talking about, let's say if we're going to keep it 100% honest, we've always kind of sat around, smoked joints, and be like, we don't really do drugs. You know what dabs are, man? If you do dabs, you do drugs.

That's a drug. That's weed being processed into an actual more potent, more compact form to smoke. It's drugs. It's the meth of weed. Dabs are like face tattoos. They're like, you went too far, fucker. Just slow down. Settle down.

Okay? Don't turn your nose into a pool of nose. I've had my fair share of dabs, and I would partake under the right circumstances. Boom, bap. I'll have a little dab. But what I'm saying is like too much I'm not interested good. I'm over here. I'm okay. I'm smoking pens though. You're smoking pens though. It's labs I actually don't smoke too many different ones, but I have some that are organic that I really like it's still adapt No, it's an oil. It's oil same fucking TSC

I'm saying you guys are smoking wax and you guys say different people who are interested in soldering irons and fucking very really I'm more into I'm personally a little bit more into what they call the solvent list like ice hash and shit like that I like a little bit different. I mean BH Oh scares me a little bit sometimes I think and there's a trigger that hits me when someone says you want to do dabs like oh No, no, no, no, because you're one of those people that does dabs. Like, I'm not doing dabs. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're the dude who calls in sick to the country club because you're too fucking high to drive.

All right? No, no. We're not doing dabs together, man. Get your shit together. You don't have to get that high. Don't come by the studio then, Joe, because you're doing a dab now if you come by my studio. It's like, do you're doing a dab now if you come by my studio. I'm going to make you do at least one dab. Do you want to drink glasses of wine

or do you want to drink glasses of whiskey? Well, you can drink glasses of wine and enjoy it. If you drink glasses of whiskey, you'll be fucking dead. Okay? That's like dabs. You went too far into the dark land, son. You met the Shire. You know how much weed

you smoke? The orcs. You're wrong about that. Some people, you're right about it. You met the Shire. You know how much weed you smoke? The orcs. You're wrong about that. Some people, you're right about it. You're right about it. Like the average Joe cat that doesn't know much, doing a dab is your right.

You know how much weed you smoke? I don't get that fucked up from a dab because you know what? I've smoked a lot of weed for 20 fucking years. Interesting. You know what I mean?

But what it will do if you smoke, what I don't want to do about that shit from what I understand is why I don't do a ton of it is because it'll you'll stop getting high from actual weed if you do too much of that maybe that'll be good maybe that's what's the best way to be is get high so often that you can be high and not even feel like you're high like maybe that's the best

place to be if you need to get high. I want to know that I'm high. No, no, no, no, no. It's like letting go. I don't want to, like, get well. Now you're talking about being a junkie. This is what I'm talking about, man. Smoking some weed to not know you're high, but be high. That's called getting well.

You're sick. It's just a plant, man. It's just a plant, man. Back off, man. Hey, dude, if I don't get a buzz or i smoke taxes man there's no point to me smoking if i'm not getting a buzz so what i'm saying man i'm what i'm saying is achieve a perpetual vibration of uh let's call it elevation let's not call it being high to achieve a perpetual state where it's so common and normal that you don't even feel like you're

high how do we live isn't that how we live pretty close pretty fucking close i take days off though do you take days absolutely i mean honestly more than i like since in the last seven years way more than i used to because of my kids i want to give it before my kids I was perpetually high like I was high from the moment I woke up to the moment I went to sleep and I don't even look

at that as a bad thing or like it's a thing yeah I was perpetually high I know a lot of people that are very productive and very smart

who also do that now and they enjoy it more the wife and I at the end of a long day will go out in the backyard and because we don't

smoke anywhere near the kids because of cystic fibrosis and all that but like we will like that. And you know what? Fuck anybody that doesn't like it. I know parents that are alcoholics and shit. You know what I mean?

It's legal now. We decompress from a day of doing fucking nebulizer treatments and fucking IV. Yeah. Yo, it works for us and it's cool. But if I wasn't getting, if I was smoking only to get even, I wouldn't even do it anymore. Like, if I didn't get a buzz, you know what I mean? It's a happy thing for me. I'm not saying get even.

I'm saying stay elevated. Stay high. But know you're elevated the entire time. Well, you know, just like you know you're breathing oxygen, but do you pay attention to it on a regular basis? Or just accept the fact that it's happening? See, I like the knowing. I like the knowing. I like the conscious, actual, like, oh, I'm in a relieved state of pain right now.

Listen, you're right. I'm just, I'm essentially arguing for something that I've already argued against. And I'm not looking for cookies, man. I'm not looking for cookies or anything. But maybe it's because I live in a slightly elevated level of stress than the average person. I appreciate that. I want to know the difference. I want to feel that cushion.

It's like the pillow on the bed for me. I want to feel the pillow. I don't want to just accept it's there. I don't want to go Buddhist like that and wash the dishes just to wash the difference. I want to feel that cushion. It's like the pillow on the bed for me. I want to feel the pillow. I don't want to just accept it's there. I don't want to go Buddhist like that and wash the dishes just to wash the dishes. I want to get high to get the fuck out of here for fucking five minutes. You know what I find that's one of the most beneficial things about being high is that I'm only thinking about a few things. But I'm thinking about them very intensely. Simply and very intently, yes.

Instead of thinking about a whole host of things peripherally. very intently. Instead of thinking about a whole host of things peripherally, where it's almost like there's too much data coming in from all these other things that I don't really care about or need. Look, you care about all sorts of things in your life that you're not going to deal with right now. And to harbor even a chunk of that in your consciousness is it robs the rest of your resources for thinking about other things. And that's one of the most apparent things about pot to me, because like when I, here's a perfect example. When I smoke pot and then I play pool, I am 20% better, like a legitimate 20% better. And I really think that it's because I'm not thinking about, oh, I got to do this. And then I got to call that guy. And then this guy, I got to respond to his text. I got to respond that person's email when I get high

I just see balls I see balls and green cloth and let me take that one step further is you're also not even thinking about I got to beat this fucking guy you're thinking about No, no, but you want to make the shot. It's more about the shot though Like I want to make a shot. I want to fucking win this game because I want to make the shot I want to do yes see the angle. There's more about the shot, though. Like, I want to make the shot. I want to fucking win this game because I want to make the shot. I want to do it. I see the angle. There's a zen to it, for sure.

There's a thing that happens with pool that happens the same way in archery. And then in archery, like, when you hit a target, it's so foolish. Like, of course, it's just a hay bale with a target on it, with a little paper target that has a yellow center. And you hit the yellow center whoop-dee-doo nothing changed in the world i understand that like rationally as my dick would probably get hard if i did that though i'd be like oh you could do it but the thing about doing that is that i don't know why but when you do something correctly when it all flows in harmony just like with pool it's the same thing when you

have a long shot and it goes in if you've ever been at a bar when you watch people play pool and some dude makes or some woman makes the craziest shot ever for the win and everybody goes crazy oh shit because we know how hard it is to do and there's something poetic and beautiful about watching it happen it's the that you just described why golf makes any sense at all. I live on a golf course, basically. I like to hit the balls and fucking I suck. But what keeps you coming back is you'll play that 18 hole day. And one time you feel you'll hit the shot that you meant to hit the way you meant to hit it.

And it went where you meant to go. And you're like, I can do that again. I know I can. That and it went where you meant to go and you're like I can do That again. I know I can so I don't know Jason. It's like crack. You're chasing that first fucking high forever I'm not disrespecting anybody who plays golf because I know I would get addicted But I don't play golf don't I know I'd get it because you would know your your whole person I would because you'd hit that one shot the first day and you'd be like oh Shit, it's the same reason i don't do coke it's the same reason i've never done coke the exact same reason my friend in high school jimmy lawless good buddy of mine to this day when we were back in high school

we went to a party and uh people were doing coke and he goes joe don't do it you'd fucking love it it's like dewey cox the movie was like, you don't want this. And I was like, okay, Jim, I trust you, buddy. I go, I'm fucking done here. I'm done with this.

And I've said this before, but this is a real thing that happened. It was on Tulane Road and we were driving beside this car that had the dome light on and I looked over

and there was this chick and I never forget her arms. She had these big arms. She had almost like, she had a sleeveless shirt with thick arms. It was the kind of girl that would punch you in the face. And she was doing coke in the back seat. And she looked over at me with the dome light on, and she just goes, Fuck you.

She just says it to me like, I'm just looking at her. I'm just looking at her. You're doing coke. You're on a two-lane road. There's only two cars in the road. I'm watching looking at her I'm just looking at her you're doing coke you're on a two lane road there's only two cars in the road I'm watching you do coke I'm seven feet away from you doing coke and you're saying fuck you like whoa

fuck coke that's what I was thinking we used to call it I had a few experiences with coke in my life but here's the breakdown of coke and why it's evil we used to call it amongst a few people that i actually trusted enough to partake of it in my life we called it the sneaky pouch sneaky because what would happen is like you'd get some coke and it'd be like in a fold you know like a paper fold

everybody would put in for some coke and every you'd go somewhere and every once in a while you know hey let me get the pass i'm gonna go to the bathroom real quick whatever right when you went to that bathroom the nature of coke you would take a little piece of that off for yourself and put it in your own little dollar bill that's your sneaky pouch sneaky the sneaky pouch but what it says about and everybody did it the whole crew like nobody made cop to it nobody fucking acknowledged it but it's like we all know we took a little piece for ourself you know what i mean off of the coke pile and whatever whatever sneaky pouch it's it's it's it's a deceitful are you writing this down so it's like kind of just describes the nature of what that what mind state that puts you in it's

like well fuck everybody else if everybody else if everybody sniffs. Who's sniffing? It's just like that's what that drug creates. And that's why I think three times in my life I've done it. Well, any drug that radically changes your brain chemistry, whether it's whiskey or whether it's Coke or, you know, honestly, even pot, especially pertaining to edibles. We should watch it very carefully What happens when people take it you know and I think that's one of the things that I've been guilty of and I know a Lot of other people have been guilty of it too. Just to totally come clean

I defend pot so much that I never look at the potential negative Consequences of people doing pot if they're too young because I didn't do it when I was now I mean did a few times maybe like a Handful of times before I was 30. And then when I was 30, I met Eddie Bravo. We started getting blazed all the time. Really? And it just changed the entire way I looked at pot.

I smoked pot when I was 14. Well, I definitely smoked it younger than that. I smoked it when I was 8. My stepdad gave me some when I was 8, just to a puff. Because I was curious. I was like, what happens when you do it? He goes, do you want to try it? I said, how much should I breathe in?

He goes, don't breathe in a lot. Just breathe in a little bit. This is obviously like sketchy memory. I did it once when I was eight. And then the next time I did it, I was probably like 14. And then I did it probably maybe again when I was 17. I was about 14 when we cut school and some of the kids, a couple of kids that were the cool guys that I, you know,

kind of took a liking to me and I was like, cool, cool kids like me. I'm going to go hang out with these dudes. They smoke weed and I remember I hit it and they would tell me like,

have you ever smoked weed? No, I never smoked weed. Nothing might happen to you the first time. But I remember vividly hitting this joint with these dudes and literally spending

probably an hour and 30 minutes Laughing my balls off let nothing and I thought it was the greatest thing ever and from then on I was like I quit baseball Became an artist Drawing and painting on walls. I was like I was a different person that changed my life Weed is another thing that's probably semi-responsible for my path. I had a very important moment when I was 16. Like I'd only smoked weed a handful of times before I was 30 years old, like less than 12, like legitimately. And one time when I was 16, it was me and my girlfriend and my best friend

who went over her house and I had stole some weed from my step dad. And we'd rolled up a joint. And we got so high. We were teleporting. We would like find ourselves in the kitchen. Astral planning type shit. We'd all be staring at each other on the couch. And then all of a sudden we'd be in the

backyard. We were barbecued. We were fucking 16. I think my girlfriend at the time was 15. Josh was my age. He was 16. And we were barbecued we were we're fucking 16 i think my girlfriend at the time was 15 and josh was my age he was he was 16 and we were just time traveling all over the fucking building it was we were way too high that's how i described the first the first and only time i ever smoked dust oh jesus you did that well i hung out with like when i was one of the neighborhoods i moved into do you this is there a fucking gateway drug to dust and tell me yes it's called cholos did they go right from diet pepsi to dust i don't know like here's here's my story as i moved on to

this street called independence avenue in in the valley it's like west valley kind of de soto sherman way ish and it was heavily latino neighborhood and like we moved in and it was cool i mean like i lived i came friends with a lot of people but like um i went from like the end of elementary school into junior high right in that era so like once we hit the junior high it's like a lot of the mexican kids I was hanging out with started hanging out with the little bit older Mexican kids and a lot of them were dealing in like kind of gang life over there.

It's just part of the way they get down. And a lot of them like to fucking do dips, which is like a fucking sherm cigarette dipped into motherfucking... Angel dust. Angel dust. Sounds like a healthy choice. Dude, it's how I wound up with this.

This little tattoo right here, first tattoo I ever had in my life, this little three dots. Normally, it's supposed to be up here, but I wasn't in the gang. Oh, I'm sorry. So it's like for some reason, I was so fucked up, this is what wound up. I mean, this represents what they call mi vida loca. It's like little three dots here. But it's like that happened because I smoked dust. Because these dudes passed me the sherm.

I didn't really know what I was doing. I was like this, bang. And literally, the way you just described that time traveling, it was like, I felt like if I thought of something to do, by the time I was finished with the thought of thinking to do it, I had already done it. I'm going to call my mom. Goodbye, mom. You know, it's like that kind of thing.

It was like fucking nuts i fucking never experienced anything like that i was terrified i was terrified terrified i didn't know what the fuck's going on you know it was almost like you know what i mean it gave me a lot of feelings is if you remember the first friday movie when uh chris tucker reflects on like somebody snuck him a little piece of dust and he fucking lost it's i didn't lose my mind naked all that shit but i feel like i was the butt of a joke that night. Like somebody gave me some dust and was like, let's watch fucking the white boy fucking trip on dust all night. Jesus Christ.

But it made for a good story on Joe Rogan. So now we're even. I had an ex-boxing coach who had his finger bitten off when he was on dust. And he had his toe removed. And his second toe replaced his index finger. And he made it curled so that he could keep throwing right hooks. So when you'd shake his hand, you'd shake his hand. That's a toe?

This is a toe right here? Yeah, you'd get a toe bone. So when you shake his hand, you get a little of this. And he's a big old Irish gorilla. You don't want to say shit because you'll beat the fuck out of him. And the dude has a toe where his index finger is going to be. That should be written into a movie. That's got to be, you know what I mean?

That's like something out of Snatch. I knew a lot of savages when I worked in Boston. When I worked in South Boston, I worked at this place called the Boston Athletic Club. That's still creeping me out a little bit. You know that? You did that to my palm. I hear you, man. That's still creeping me out.

Yeah. Dude, I worked at the Boston Athletic Club, and then I worked at Nautilus Plus in Revere. I met a lot. Revere, Massachusetts is like, well, what's that place in Brooklyn that's like all guineas? And what is it? Bensonhurst. Bensonhurst. Right, yeah.

Okay. That was like the Bensonhurst of Boston. It was like Revere. And I worked in a gym there. So I was around a lot of crazy people. I was around a lot of people that, I was around a few people That got like Indicted for murder Like this one dude

He didn't get indicted He got arrested I don't know if they ever Even tried him Anyway Long story short Don't do dust And that's where you're leaving that?

I don't even I mean I don't know how much I can talk about this guy's life Oh Without being disrespectful We don't want to cross any lines Alright about this guy's life without being disrespectful. We don't want to cross any lines. All right.

He was a nice guy, but I think he might have fucked a few people up. Well, there's nothing weirder to me. Not even weirder. I don't know if that's the right word. But strange and uncomfortable as being around. And I'm not talking about ex-marines or guys who've been in the war or anything like that i'm talking about but like a civilian person and i've been around quite a few of these kind of people whether it be biker gang guys or whatever that you know yeah you know

you know have fucking killed people you know you know that you know i mean and you're not feeling threatened by them you don't think they're gonna kill you everybody like you know it's there's a you know i used to train a guy who's in whitey bulger's gang and he's like you know he was like i don't know if he was a hit man but that was like the rumor he saw one at least but he asked me while i was teaching him he asked me if i was going to kill someone what's what's the best place to hit him and we sat around talking about it we me and him were talking about this is when i was a black belt he was a white belt so it was a it was like a valid conversation for him to be having with a 20 year old kid and i was like the neck i got i would i would hit someone in the neck like your neck's very vulnerable and people get knocked out

very easily if they get hit in the neck sometimes even more so than the head and he was like yeah and we looked at each other i'm like okay this is what i want you to work on right now we're gonna work i was like that's funny because i had a cousin when i was young like before like any of the house like probably 1918 that i was in california visiting and and he was a correctional officer in upstate new york and he said the thing they were taught first is because they walk around, there's only like maybe 30 guards at a time on duty and what, 600 to 1,000 prisoners, you know, depending on what the circumstances are. And all they have is a big metal key ring.

And they're taught the first thing you fucking do is punch a dude right in his fucking throat. Yeah. If you feel like you're any kind of thing, that's the, and he told me that, like that he was like, if I was going to give you any advice and you felt like you were fucking, it's like the first thing you should do. And I, and he explained it well enough that I knew as even as a young man, like you're playing with a person's life, punching them in the fucking Adam's apple or something, you know what I mean?

You would kill them. Like full, like he was like, well, with that, well, even just with your fist, if you hit them right. You would be amazed. You'd be amazed at how much damage people could take. Actually, I'd rather get punched in the Adam's apple than I would get kicked in the side of my head like around here Because this is what shuts you off It seems like again many things can shut you off just with the caveat like you can get shut off with a kick

Even almost like to the top of your chest it snaps your head back so much you get shut off But there's something about neck kicks. Like, boom! Dudes just go. They just crumple. They do. And sometimes they crumple from chin shots, but I think it's the same thing. I think what the chin shot is doing is somehow or another pinching the garden hose that is

the spine and shutting the system off. It's also, if I'm not mistaken, your brain sits in that little bit of fluid and if your skull moves fast enough the brain doesn't move as fast and it touches the once if the brain touches the skull that's lights out that that absolutely too also i think the same principle like rear naked chokes and um head kick knockouts are not the same in that a rear naked choke is way safer like if you get choked unconscious you're gonna be fine if you get head kicked unconscious Oh, you got to take some time off like you could just got fucked up But the mechanism behind them is kind of similar in that it's cutting off the circuitry

Not like specifically because the choke is like stopping the blood, but the head kick is just jolting like it's like rebooting your computer the head kick i would imagine i've never experienced it nor can i throw one that high but i would imagine why it might be worse is because like all right you get punched and it's the motion of the head almost and the brain not moving that is causing the knockout if you get kicked like this it's a shin it's everything your head doesn't even get to move so the brain is actually just getting slammed against the other side of the fucking skull. I've made this point really recently and even yesterday. I think people should have no gloves on when they fight.

I think fighting with gloves makes it easier to punch people, which is more unrealistic. And getting kicked in the head is way worse than getting punched in the head. And we allow that. It's the same argument for Olympic headgear. That's why it's going away. That is why it's going away. They think it causes more problems It's actually worth at this point

I also think it's unrealistic in terms of like the limitations of your body like there's limitations of your body with punching people and that's That your wrists bend like anybody's ever punched someone or would you condone tape or just no bra? No, that's yeah Oh, well taped is really what the problem is it when you take this wrist like so that I can't really fuck it up, I'm going to throw it with abandon. Well, also it's like- With no abandon, right? If you can tape- With no abandon.

With no abandon. I don't think there's anything wrong with two people agreeing with a rule set. They agree, okay, we're going to wear gloves and we're going to wear gi pants. Things along those lines. But if you can wear gloves, gloves for a striker are the equivalent of gi pants for a really good jujitsu guard player like if a guy like eddie bravo is allowed to wear gi pants and he gets you wrapped up if you're like some regular dude you're going to sleep you're gonna get fucked up you know unless you're like some high even like hoyler grace he fucks up when he's wearing the gi pants. Because he knows that those gi pants provide insane amounts of friction and traction.

It can clamp a hold of you, and it can do some shit to you that you're just going to be super uncomfortable with. In a way, that's as much of an advantage for him to be able to wear the gi pants as it would be for a striker to wear the gloves. But only a striker gets to wear the gloves. Like, the grapplers have to wear shorts. Like, it's really kind of interesting because having your your knuckles taped up and having your knuckles padded up is A real advantage for someone who knows how to hit things because you can you could be like much more

Relaxed and liberal with your use of punches. You don't have to worry about hitting bones But you would never allow that the other way like giving Like giving the option of a striker to wear hand pads and then a grappler to wear gi pants. It's like we have a very accepted idea of what's civilized. One of the things is you cover your knuckles. It's kind of stupid because you don't have to cover your elbows. People are smashing and slashing people up with their elbows. My case against it is that it's not logical.

It's just historical. We're just going by a tradition, and it's not a logical tradition. Right. Still Queens of Marksbury kind of coming from there. It is kind of, but these are limitations that we inherited from a single discipline sport. It's also, if you think back back not not that long ago a 75 round fight isn't wasn't unheard of yeah they didn't have no cte there was no will smith movie there was no no one knew what the fuck was going on there was no real sports with brian cumble

nobody had any idea that getting the hit in the head for that long would be that bad for you crazy yeah it's it's kind of fascinating when you think about it, but I really do think that the gloves, I think we're doing a huge disservice to the art of fighting because I think we have unrealistic expectations based on the idea that you could just punch someone with padded knuckles. I think if we didn't have padded knuckles, we'd be much more clever in how we use our hands because you might break your hand in any shot and it would be easier to choke people. So jujitsu would be more effective. Two of those things are way better for the athletes and way better for the honest interpretation

of what fighting is. The problem is no one's going to agree to that because people from home, they're going to look at it and go, oh, this is barbaric. This is horrible. They don't even have gloves on. They're bare knuckle. Or the first time a guy catches a tooth in his fist and his shit splits open

they're going to be like, oh! You catch it in your elbow. What's the difference between your fist and your chin? You're preaching to the choir with me, but. What's the difference between you catching one in your knuckle or catching one on the end of your foot when you kick someone's face sideways? You can wheel kick them in the head with your heel

but you can't punch them with bare knuckles. It's stupid. It's a dumb rule. It's the whole six to 12 thing, too. That's stupid, too. It doesn't work. But I'll leave that. I'll leave that and take no gloves any day.

I really think there should be no gloves. I think even for strikers, I think, yeah, man, you pad some dudes up. You fucking give a dude like Tyrone Spall. What about gloves? Just like protecting your knuckles and skin, but no taping. What if that what about gloves just like protecting your knuckles and skin but no taping what if that would you would you protect your knuckles and skin why what are we looking at we're looking at why how can you look at it with elbows devil's advocate on that okay we're looking at exchange of bodily fluids if i punch you in the teeth you know what i mean oh silly you're Oh, silly. You're getting that from everything. You're getting that from arms when you choke

people. People get bitten when they've been choked. When you choke like you watch Damien Maia vs. Rick Story, and he's going right over his face, and you don't think he's getting a little bit of bite? You get bites in your arms. They're not even trying to bite you. They're trying to breathe, and you're crushing your

arm. Rarely do you see his arm come away bleeding or something. I'm saying there's a rare occasion of like though, but far less rare would be if there was no gloves and you're punching a guy in the mouth. You're going to catch them teeth. There's going to be a lot more cutting of the hands too. I'm just playing devil's advocate. It's a good devil's

advocate. Here's the solution. Double mouth guard. You enforce the rule of a double mouth guard, which means that there's a space in the middle. The outer version too? No, no, no, no, no. It goes lower teeth and upper teeth and then you have You enforce the rule of a double mouth guard, which means that there's a space in the middle version to like oh, yeah No, no, no, no No It goes lower teeth and upper teeth and then you have a space in the middle Bernard Hopkins always used to fight with one of those and it covers your lower teeth and your upper teeth and there's a space in the middle and you breathe through that and you

breathe through your nose and you get used to doing that and the lower mouth guard the problem with having only an upper mouth guard Is most people do that but only an upper mouth guard is most people do that. But only an upper mouth guard will work for the most part. But if you're bare knuckle, there's a real argument for using an upper and a lower because you're dealing with a different situation. Some people have underbites, Joe. Well, even then, you would just have it fitted to your face. I'm just devil advocating. I understand what you're saying.

What I'm saying is that would be the bet. Shout out to Bernard, though. Bernard Hopkins, my favorite fighter of all time, personally. My favorite. He's my favorite. You want to know why? I'll tell you why he's my favorite. I'll tell you why he's my favorite.

First of all, I saw his last fight. I was there in the forum, and it was a bummer to me. You're better than that, and your fucking career will be forever. Because here's when I knew Bernard Hopkins was the fucking man. All right? Be real. I've always been surrounded by Latin man. All right. He was, I be real. I've always been surrounded by Latin guys. All right.

That's just all the dudes I know are Mexican, Cuban, these kinds of guys, you know, be real is one of my best friends on earth. Um, sick jacket. That's another,

you know, these are all Latin dudes. These are all Spanish guys, Mexicans and whatnot. So anytime a fight like that would come up, you know, they're all taking the Felix Trinidad or the whoever it was.

Of course. When he was fighting Felix Trinidad, we were all watching at B-Real's house when this motherfucker took the Puerto Rican flag. He was in Puerto Rico talking shit on Felix Trinidad at the time, the fucking almighty fucking son of all Puerto Rico

took the Puerto Rican flag, which if you know about Puerto Rican guys, and I know plenty of Puerto Rican guys, The fucking almighty fucking son of all Puerto Rico. Yeah. Took the Puerto Rican flag, which if you know about Puerto Rican guys, and I know plenty of Puerto Rican guys, you put that flag on anything, they got so much pride. They'll buy it. They'll wear it. The flag is everything. They get crazy. He took this flag in Puerto Rico, threw it on the ground, and stepped on it.

Jesus. Why? Go back. I'm sure it's on YouTube, where he steps on the Puerto Rican flag. In Puerto Rico. I remember. And I literally told my friends, if he gets off that island, nobody on earth is beating his ass. I was like, because they should be trying to fucking kill him right now. If I know anything about Puerto Rican people.

You know what I mean? And when the fight came that day, I bet everybody in B-Real used to throw barbecues every fight. That's where we'd be. That was our routine. And any time it was a black guy versus any Spanish guy, it could be any kind of Spanish guy, I would always bet against the house. And more times than not, I won.

But yo, he stomps on the goddamn flag and got out of that island. We threw it. He took it away from Felix and threw it on the ground. Then he beat his ass. I feel like he KO'd him in the ninth round. Am I correct? I feel like he KO'd him right there. Well, he definitely landed a psychological blow.

That's where he KO'd him right there. Because it's like, if you didn't get stabbed before you got off the island of Puerto Rico, that's a win. He put a lot of pressure on himself, though, too. That's why I always knew. I was like, the executioner's my man. Just for the ball factor of that. That's a big ball factor. I mean, if you would have pulled that in New York, I would have the executioner's my man. Just for the ball factor of that. That's a big ball factor.

I mean, if you would have pulled that in New York, I would have said you're fucking crazy. In Puerto Rico? Yeah. Jesus, man. That took huge nuts. That took the dude who was in jail for most of his life and was living off commissary donations. It was a brilliant performance, too, in that fight. He kicked ass.

Yo, Bernard, until the last... He beat the shit out of Felix Trudeau in that fight. He kicked ass. Yo, Bernard until the last... He beat the shit out of Felix Trayvon. More like five, six fights of his, he beat the shit out of everybody. Well, you gotta realize, he's like 51, which is incredible. In this fight, I wanna say he was 34 or 35. Well, he was old when he got it going because he spent

so much time in jail. Oh my god, what a beautiful counterpunch. But you know what they said was always about him is he lived like a monk. He was always in training. He never fucking partied, never smoked, never drugged. No processed foods.

That's the big thing. He was saying he eats very healthy and clean. Raw. He was one of the early advocates of the raw diet kind of thing. Yeah, I know. He also was a brilliant boxer.

But I just love the execution of what came out with the mask. Dude, you got to realize this guy got past, he got past 12 rounds with Sergey Kovalev without getting knocked out. And he got rocked and dinged several times in that fight. He

fought Kovalev in his prime. Kovalev who, in my opinion, is top three or four pound for pound in the world. I mean, it's arguable who's number one right now. It's like a lot of people think it's Lomachenko. He won that war fight, dude. He won that first war fight. He very well could have. I feel like he did.

I thought he did. In my humble opinion, I thought he won. In my humble opinion, I agree with you. I would have to go over it with a real legitimate boxing judge. I mean, I know what I think about boxing, but I don't know. Did you see the last Terrence Crawford fight where he put it on that Cuban or whatever dude? Diaz, yeah. He put the fucking beating on that guy.

He's in the argument for number one pound for pound in the world. I feel like it's Lomachenko. Yeah, because Chocolatito got beat, right? Controversial fight, but close enough for him to lose the decision. I didn't get to see the fight, but I heard it was. It was controversial. Some people disagreed with it. But what I feel is that Terrence Crawford and Lomachenko are the guys who put it on people

to the point where they just run away from it. They just set the fight, right? They run away from it. No, but they just set the big fight, the fucking Triple G and the fucking Canelo fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What you think? What you think?

It's a very important fight. It's a very important fight because you look at how good Canelo looked against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Yo, man, come on, let's be real. Respect to pops. Respect to pops all the way. I think that kid got stung a few times.

Yo, Chavez Jr. was never, ever, ever, ever anywhere. He shouldn't have been in there. The only reason he got in there is because his name was Chavez Jr., man, honestly. You're 100% correct, other than the few good, he's had some good performances. Early, early. Sergio Martinez. Once he got busted for that weed shit, it seemed like after that, it was downhill. The kid just didn't care anymore.

You know what? I equate it to this. Personally personally i don't know the guy i'm not assuming i'm my take on it is he just got tired of fucking trying to be the fucking his dad what a hundred and something and how many losses just his dad was one of the greatest of all time yeah if not that's why when i hear this floyd mayweather like 40 and something oh didn't dude go like 70 something you know why does that not count as much he didn, he didn't. He didn't. Am I tripping? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Am I falling for a Facebook fake news? What was the just Google what was Julio

Cesar Chavez's record before he lost. Was that including amateur fights or something before? Well, Lomachenko only had one amateur loss. I mean, he's got one professional loss, one amateur loss. There's very few guys got one professional loss, one amateur loss. There's very few guys that I check in boxing because I've become such a UFC fan.

I'm like, I'm some cast. I have friends like my buddy Vinny Paz from this group. I love Vinny Paz. He fucking hates MMA, dude. He fucking hates it, dude. He says that. I'll take him to the fights. Vinny Paz, I'm a boxing fan, too.

Vinny Paz, please, Joe. Don't get caught. Don't get caught. Come to the fights with me. Be on a team, Vinny Paz. No, I'm there, though. Hey, Joe, I'm there that day when Vinny Paz comes. I'm there that day. Open invitation, Vinny Paz please, Joe. Vinny, come to the fights with me. Be on a team, Vinny Pass. Joe, I'm there that day when Vinny Pass comes. Open invitation, Vinny Pass.

Open invitation. Vinny Pass, what are you doing in July? July 8th. July 8th? Isn't that it? I don't think I'll be back. But if he wants to go, go. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want to be there.

But if you change that opinion,, he's a boxing, but he is a fucking aficionado. He loves the boxing game. I know he is. But he disrespects the MMA game to a certain degree. I get it. Okay with your little comments, dude. You know this is real fighting. You know in the streets, Floyd Mayweather would get his fucking ass

busted by Conor McGregor. It wouldn't even be close. It wouldn't even be close. It would be a destruction. It would be Conor McGregor grating wouldn't even be close. It wouldn't even be close. It would be a destruction. It would be Conor McGregor grating Floyd Mayweather's face into the pavement like Parmesan cheese. That's what it would be. He would just rip his legs out.

He would just rip his legs out. That's it. If Floyd didn't tag him with a knockout punch within the first few seconds of the fight, Conor would be way away from him kicking his legs out.

Hands outstretched. I read this article. I don't know. You probably saw it. About like, what if? It was like a what if article. What if Conor took the fight with Mayweather and just came out, picked him up,

slammed him on the fucking ground and dismantled him and like ripped his arms just to do it. He could do it. I mean, he really could do it. If he wanted to take him down and just strangle him. Just to be like, yeah, okay, I lost all the money and everything,

but I still kicked his ass. That's nothing. MMA destroys fucking boxing. He would go to jail or something would happen because there would be, here's the problem, there'd be betting, right? There'd be all these people that bet against it. What do you do there? Because Floyd wins by disqualification.

You knew you were going to do this, so you didn't go into this with good faith. Class action lawsuit against Conor McGregor. Wow, you're taking a what if article way too far. That's what I do, dude. That's what I do with everything. I was just trying to say that would be funny. That's what I do with everything. It's my problem. No, I love's what I do with everything. I was trying to say that would be funny. That's what I do with everything. It's my problem.

No, I love it. I go deep. Too deep. No such thing, man. It's going to be an interesting fight if they fight. I think she'll fight with no gloves. See what the fuck's really going on. Hey, one other thing real quick.

That's my thing. Boxing, no gloves. Joe started me drinking whiskey before the podcast at 2 in the afternoon. It's his idea. I ain't mad at you. Come on. Don't act like you didn't say at 2 in the afternoon. It's his idea. I ain't mad at you. Come on. Don't act like you didn't say, let's drink some whiskey. I'm a believer.

Now, if you expect Everlast to say no to let's drink some whiskey, then you have made the faux pas. But what I want to say real quick is because I've been drinking and I haven't been there in a while either, my good friend Jason Ellis just won his King of the Cage match like a week ago. He won by submission, right? Yes, he won outright by submission. Congratulations, my dude. I love you. You fucking worked hard for that.

And that inspires me. That kind of shit inspires me. When I see Jason do that, I'm like, fuck, I'm making a lot of excuses for shit. He did real strength and conditioning with Nick Kershaw. First of all, he beat up a couple MMA guys. I mean, Gabe Rudabar or whatever that i was there when he beat him up

it wasn't a match i watched beat his ass beat him up yeah all right that's the guy who actually fights whatever you want to say about all the weight cuts he missed on the ultimate fighter that guy's a professional fighter yeah jason beat the shit out of him and knocked him out yeah all right when i heard about this fight i was texting texting him like, you're going to win this fight, dude. I know you're going to win it. But, yo, you fucking won that fight, dog. Real deal. Love you.

Congrats. Yeah. And did everything he had to do. Like, did the real shit to get in shape. That's why I'm saying he's inspired. That kind of guy is inspiring to me, man, because what he does is he chooses something, and he says, I'm going to commit to it.

There's this, I was saying, I think, think earlier i'm here because i followed road signs and i just i i consider myself adept at reading the signs of life and where i'm when there's the the forks in the road i happen to be good at making the right choice there's certain guys that don't give a fuck about the fork in the road and determine their own fucking path and decide you're kind of one of those dudes and i admire that in a way i mean i admire what i do i know i recognize there's a skill and a talent and a blessing in what i do but there's something about being able to decide something and fucking make it so even though maybe it's not supposed to be so and i'm that is my next chase in life maybe not to it if i even if i don't achieve it to understand it how it's possible how could i be that guy how could it at 20 maybe i have understood a little bit differently so maybe by the time i'm 70 god willing it's an illusion

this is the illusion the illusion is that you're looking at the ultimate results from your perspective. And you're saying, how, how do I tune myself in? How do I, how do I get totally connected with what I really want to do and not be influenced by the opinions and the ideas of others how do i find my true sweet spot right the problem is we all look at other people's destination again like that crazy quote that comparison is the enemy of joy it's really kind of the same thing the thief of joy yeah the thief of joy the the whole key i think to you do, whether you're a guy who makes furniture or a woman who paints or whatever the fuck you do, whether you're a rapper or a blues singer or a stand-up comedian or an author, whatever the fuck you do, the thing is, and this is a cliche expression, but there's a reason why people keep expressing it over and over again get out of your own way

half of the reason why you're not tuning in perfectly could to whatever fucking Vibration is available to you in the universe as you get in your own fucking way You get in your own way with insecurity and with ego and with expectation and with pressure and with all the different judgments you cast on different forms of art that you may or may not like. Like you're wasting time. You're wasting energy. It's clogging up your gears. You only have a certain amount.

You got to manage your attention the way you would manage oxygen. If you were in a spaceship, you got to say, I can't give away this stuff to bullshit. I can't be sitting around wondering if, you know, whatever the fuck it is. If it's not relevant to your life, you're wasting way too much time thinking about this. Okay. Let me come at you.

Okay. And this is personal. This is personal. I accept everything you just said as truth but let me throw a personal angle at you I want to be in much better shape okay

we can do that let me get to the circumstances I have a life that presents me with a lot of problems that can make emotional conflictions.

Yes. With what I'm trying to achieve in life. Right. Legitimate ones. Right. I mean, cause certain, I won't call myself ever depressed cause I don't like that word.

I mean, I do get depressed, but I want to use the word like, Oh, I had depression. I think a lot of people lean on some shit and like try to actually milk it in, especially in media. Do you want to see something right now before you keep talking that's going to change your life?

That's going to lock into exactly what you're saying and show you the way? You don't even know what I'm going to finish saying, but yes. I'm going to show you the way. Jamie, go to my Twitter page and pull that Jocko Good. Watch this. Watch this. This is very important, my friend. Please.

This is very important. I trust in you enough to be like, okay. Hold on. Back it from the beginning. I won't take offense to you near the finish of my story bring it to the beginning and put it up on the screen and as long as before we're done we're at least gonna play one more war porn video because i promised my guys give it give us some volume listen to this one of my direct subordinates one of my guys that worked for me he would he would call me up or pull

me aside with some major problem, some issue that was going on, and he'd say, boss, we got this and that and the other thing. And I'd look at him and I'd say, good. And finally one day he was telling me about some issue that he was having, some problem, and he said, I already know what you're going to say. And I said, well, what am I going to say?

He said, you're going to say good. He said, that's what you always say when something is wrong and going bad you always just look at me and say good and I said well yeah when things are going bad there's gonna be some good that's gonna come from it didn't get the new high-speed gear we wanted good didn't get promoted Oh mission got canceled good we can focus on the other one didn't get funded didn't get the job you wanted got injured sprained my ankle got tapped out good got beat good unexpected problems good we have the opportunity to figure out a solution

that's it when things are going bad don't get all bummed out don't get startled don't get frustrated if you can say the word good guess what it means you're still alive it means you're still breathing and if you're still breathing. And if you're still breathing, well now, you still got some fight left in you. So get up, dust off, reload,

recalibrate, re-engage, and go out on the attack. Jocko Willink changing motherfuckers' lives right now live in America. Coming to you from Southern California. I got goosebumps. Play Jocko right now. My kids got pneumonia

and are fucking left lun to a degree that nobody fucking knows what to do and fucking even the doctors are perplexed. Well, you're right about that. What he's talking about is overcoming this is my question this is why i was saying i'm not asking for sympathy i'm not as all i'm saying i actually came on this show today to say if something in this room if somebody in the valley area or la greater area my twitter is og everlast my fucking uh everything's the same og everlast or eric schrodinger on facebook legitimate i need a little help i need a little help in the sense that i want

to be in better shape but i travel so much and then at home is a stress of like i want to go to the gym i couldn't go to the fucking gym for the last 10 days it was either me or my wife at the fucking hospital you hear no no no joe i don't want to make you feel bad at all. I want to say it's like that was beautiful. Who is that guy again? Jocko Willink. Jocko Willink. That is fucking supremely motivational on any level, except what I'm trying to say is like skating your way around

this fucking kind of emotional fucking dilemma of like it's hard. Of course it's hard. And I'm here saying it's hard. I'm actually bringing it up to say, no one's denying. I'm failing in certain ways at, at what I'm trying to achieve. And so like,

that's what I mean when I say, I'd see Jason. And I know again, I got a little extra, I got a little extra to deal with. I got a little, my backpack has a little more weight emotionally and mentally. Okay.

But I'm not making that an excuse. What I'm saying is like how do i be more like that how can that i want that i'm asking well what he's giving you is opportunities but again he's talking about very specific situations giving you opportunities to recover personal ones i got beat down i'm fucked up it's when it's just rise above other thing this other is this there's a whole different level of mental challenge to that. I'm not saying what he's saying is wrong. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but how do I find that in that?

That's tough. What he's proposing, the principles that he's proposing. And if he has the answer, please fucking holler at me. No, listen, man. The principles that he's proposing when he's saying that, you can apply them to everything. Figure out how you can take whatever situation you're in and improve your position i could do 400 curls a day and be as buff as joe rogan i can't how do i get to that many i'm i'm making fucking you i don't even do any literal

with this literal don't get literal with me all right because i'm drinking whiskey you're drinking water that's whiskey i only got to drive a block. You got to drive however far. Interesting. Someone's comparing. I'll walk. The enemy of joy. I'll walk. The thief of joy has crept into our travel plans. No, I was actually just meant to be like a little, you know, but I want that.

I found that very motivating. But what I'm saying is like, there's this hurdle. I understand. Of Captain or Lieutenant Dan that's got some real fucking anger issues. I'm working him out. I'm working on him. Hey, the whiskey. I'm being more honest than I even thought I would be today.

Okay. Okay. But you don't get on a fucking platform like Joe Rogan and say, hey, I'm failing at this. Unless you're fucking trying to do something about it you know i mean i want to achieve i don't want to be you but i'm like i see the way i've been watching i you know what i'm saying but i've been watching your videos about running about running i do another thing that has also gotten to me and gets me to when i do get to work out it's because i hear joe rogan tell me don't let the inner bitch fucking get you yeah you know what i mean and i understand and that

that's been a big motivator for me as i but there's it's not an inner bitch to be disturbed and upset and your life upheaved by this thing it's absolutely not it's absolutely's absolutely not. Do you feel where I'm coming from? I think, but what he's saying in this video, what is applicable, and you can argue whether or not some of it's not. But I'm asking on a personal level. I said on a personal level, and I'm not trying to argue with you or be argumentative.

As I'm saying on a personal level, that's the level of it with it, the level of that. That inspirational message is great but i'm struggling of course you are with this part of it like how do i well yeah if i if i got my arm broken and snapped by a guy who tapped me out or or life just kicked my ass and i didn't get the job i or the opportunity i wanted and good i understand that but I am personally struggling with not using this as an excuse not using this but the truthful emotional fucking agony of like seeing a child tell you

like and not just tell you but go through this hospital of the last two weeks these things of like how do I be stronger how do I I'm you and anybody and what i'm saying i'm not being argumentative with you again is is saying please if you got a book throw it's tweeted to me if you're the dude who fucking is local and says i know how to help plus i understand i have a heart valve replacement my workout there's a lot of shit i can work out but let me tell you why working out gets weird for me. I'll start. I'll do good. I'll drop 15 pounds.

Bang, boom, boom. And then I'll start to push myself, and I'll get distrustful of my own heart, like a pain or a tinge that really might not be anything will come along and fucking scare the shit out of me. Because there's nothing. I never was afraid of anything in my life until I had children. And the only thing I'm afraid of on this planet is not being here for my children. My life or death, I do not care. I've died twice, literally. All right?

I don't care about that. But now there's this fear of, like, these children, these girls, not even boys. I honestly even feel I would feel differently if I had two boys Like they'll be alright. I can instill the manly shit into him while I'm here, but my girls I'm of the my biggest fear in life is not being here for them, and I'm good I'm healthy except for about 25 pounds of weight I'm actually my blood works all that My doctors are all very happy with me. It's the only complaint they ever have. And the only complaint I ever have

is I have some back pain. Sometimes I don't sleep well. It's all weight related. Go ahead. Let me stop you with all this talk because you have a lot of reasons why things aren't working physically the way you would like them to work.

And I'm asking for help. I'm definitely saying like, yes, I would like help. I understand you are. But there's too much extra energy spent on things that aren't helping you like you and i know you have these time constraints but to focus on them is counterproductive because you have the time constraints the time constraints rob you of your time and then the focusing on the time constraints and the agony of those time constraints and the fucking frustration of having those time constraints robs you of more time and more energy. You just got to accept it.

You got to be Zen about it. I had a friend, he's a comedian from Boston. His name is Tony V and he said something to me once. It's very important. And it applied to the rest of my life. And it was a very simple statement. He was driving from Boston to New York several times a week, several times for some job he got. And I'm like, how do you do that? And he goes, you know what I found when I get in the car, I just go Zen. I say, this is what I'm doing. I don't, I don't concern myself with the dishes. I don't concern myself with the fact that I can't believe I have to do this. Oh my God, woe is me. He goes, I just do it. And then

I thought about that that day. And then I applied that to my life because that's the best advice anybody could ever get. If anybody was doing anything they don't like to do, of course you don't like to do it. But to concentrate on the fact that you don't like to do it compounds the not like to do it aspect of it it makes it worse no actually what you're describing is actually a lot of the stuff i'm reading right now which is like the art of mindfulness which is again when i keep saying wash the dishes to wash the dishes it's it's kind of like saying exactly that like wash your dishes to wash your dishes don't wash your dishes to get to the next thing because then you're not living life you're not breathing you're not living in your

moment so i'm working on that. But at the same time, I'm still saying, also, you know what I found in the last couple years, especially through the little social media that I managed to be successful at, that people want to know the real deal. Hey, shit ain't fucking perfect over here. There's a lot of things about me I'd like to be better. You know what I mean? Just because I make good money and I ain't fucking perfect over here. There's a lot of things about me I'd like to be better. Right.

You know what I mean? Just because I make good money and I ain't hungry. I could eat filet mignon and all that every night. You know what I mean? I could live really. I do live really nice. I'm very fucking grateful for my life. But there's a lot of fucking dark you don't see that if you saw, maybe you wouldn't.

All this fakery. There's a lot of fake. Like Instagram. Are you talking about Lil Bow Wow? How maybe you wouldn't. All this fakery. There's a lot of fake. Like, Instagram, everything's fake. Are you talking about Lil Bow Wow? How dare you? Whatever. Bring up Lil Bow Wow. Yeah, you know what?

Jamie's been bringing up Lil Bow Wow nonstop. That's the cherry on top of fucking fuckery. You know what I mean? So what? He got called out for it. He was on a flight. At least he was on a plane in first class. Was he even?

Was he really? It seemed like business at least. I fly business. I don't fly first. I fly business. As long as I can lay down, as long as the tape, things like this, when I fly to Europe, I'm cool. Yeah. But, you know, and the few times I have flown private, I Instagram that shit. Did you? Hell yeah,

because I don't fly private, dude. I know what it really costs. You know what I mean? It ain't cheap. It's not. You know, when I holler at Dana like, hey, can I don't fly private, dude. I know what it really costs. You know what I mean? It ain't cheap. It's not. When I holler at Dana like, hey, can I catch a lift in this flight, and I don't get a response back, I know it ain't cheap. Because that's my dude. If it was cheap, he'd be like, yeah, come on. That's funny. I think they have to log you in and make a reason why Everlast is flying.

It's official. Yeah, why is Everlast going, man? Why is Everlast on the roster? Because you play my song at every event. How's that? Is that good enough? That's important. Every event. And mean? It's official. It's official. Yeah, why is Everlast going, man? Why is Everlast on the roster? Well, because you play my song in every event. How's that? Is that good enough? That's important. Every event.

And I love Dana for that. Thank you, man. I love that fucking 35 cents I get for that shit every time. Is that what you get? Probably something in that area. If it's one time in an arena. But think about it. Arena only pays 35 cents?

Well, the radio only plays five, so I'm just assuming. Wait a minute. Every time your song gets played on the radio you get five cents basically somewhere in that neighborhood somewhere between five and ten probably what a weird deal hey dude it gets played a lot because the checks i'm sure the checks are fat because you're dealing with a lot of countries a lot of humans seven billion people that five cents adds the fuck up it does mailbox money we that. It's a good way to describe it. But like I said, you know what I mean?

It's just like, hey, man, I'm honestly saying, hey, throw it out there. Change your diet. There's somebody local. Yo, my diet is working on that. I told you, soda is my fucking enemy. None. That's my bane of my existence. Think of them as crack.

Coca-Cola is. Poison. It is crack. Coca-Cola is my crack. Don't ingest poison. You don't need that. Do you drink coffee in the morning? Yes. I don't. I hate coffee. I drink a Coca-Cola. I read a story that said it makes you live forever. Don't ingest poison Do you drink coffee in the morning? Yes

I don't, I hate coffee I read a story that said it makes you live forever It was the article that I retweeted I said I want to believe It said coffee can make you live longer I didn't even read it I read that article for like half a paragraph Fake news

I might have got into paragraph number two Before I clicked my email Let's play another war porn video because it's fucking dope. Let's play another war porn video, Jamie. Plus, I got to pee bad. But I'll be right back. You need whiskey bladder, brother. This one's called Dazed.

Dazed. This was the second one. Here we go. I don't know. I'm confused, how long is my truth? My truth I'm confused I'm confused Yo, I'm mega volcanic I'm hyperkinetic I'm pseudo-organic

I'm ultra-magnetic I'm biomechanic Keep calm, don't panic The world get frantic We bomb the whole planet I'm Dr. Strangelove Reading all the war 48 laws more than you bargained for

Kickin' the door, we're enjoyin' bread fours All I heard was, why you, why you spinnin' so raw? Tongue on the floor, eye on the throne It's murder by drone and the no-fly zone That's my word, Carl Fromm, get your third eye blown My balls and my word, it's all I own Scheme, team, syndicate, assassinate the magistrate Southern Cali, Caliphate, born to make haters hate

Rambo, Commando, Iraq, Vietnam Fast like Ramadan, blast like atomic bomb Cash rule, Babylon, the rude, less traveled on Than a grand pentagon, megaton, way beyond Subliminal visual, facts that are actual Supreme mathematical, gods on sabbatical These days, I'm confused, how long it's not true Visual facts that are actual, supreme mathematical, gods on sabbatical. 10 days but confused 10 days but confused From the first murder Burnin' pot made us fast learners

17th block turn to get the blast further Novocaine brain match North of Larry Burda Alternum to pain and short to Barry Murmers Been dazed by 10 sprays a day In the neighborhood we're raised by Cushots and AKs Young A's these S.A.'s did not play

Price paid put away, or apply grave. No passes, low classes, hazards. Smoking dust to dust, ending up with ass to ashes. Warrior shit, better than the fugacity classes. No choice in the street ring, but dance like Cassius. That stinking move, with the sickest crews. Walking street, by that wall with the clicker tune. Paranoid on that rock in the liquor tube. Go to college, graduate when you hit the shoe. We'll be right back. I'm confused, how long is my truth? My truth And I am confused

And I am confused And I am confused Whoa. Yeah. Perfect timing. All right. Perfect timing. And you're back. Yes, sir. Had to release some whiskey. Perfect timing. And you're back. Yes, sir.

Had to release some whiskey. I understand. I did as well. Shout out to Von Styler. He did all the tracks for the Warped. All-time record shout outs. You know what I mean? I gave him like four already, but still.

I think this is the most shout outs on a podcast. Well, I'm going to say shout out Joe Rogan. How do you like that? What up? Shout out to Everlast. You know what I mean? Shout out to every Bravo. Shout know what I mean? Shout out to Every Bravo. Shout out to Tate Fletcher.

Hottest podcast I ever did in my life. Get some fucking air conditioning in that building, man. Is it not in here? Take the water. No, no, not here. No, at Eddie's spot. Eddie Bravo's spot? And there was like 400 water bottles when I did this shit.

Yeah, they don't have them made. I love that, dude. Is that Van Nuys? Yeah, over there somewhere. Not far from the Spearmint Rhino Keep it down, people are gonna find him Yeah, he's uh, what's hilarious I did it once and there was a dude playing drum solos Next door like some dude in the building next door was playing the drums. You could hear through the fucking walls like Jesus

Oh, yeah. Okay. That makes it was kind of a rehearsal studio You could hear it through the fucking walls. Like, Jesus, dude. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. That makes sense. It was kind of a rehearsal studio. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, dude, does this happen often?

He's like, sometimes it happens. You know, he's got to get his Smoke Serpent remixes on, you know? Yeah, man. That's my dude. I like that guy. He keeps offering to introduce me to a dude out there in Corona near where I live. To work out? He said he got a black belt out there.

Did you jiu-jitsu? You know, I was doing a little Brazilian jiu-jitsu with Marcus Venesis over at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu. I was literally probably one lesson away from my blue belt when I just, everything kind of went haywire in my life. Layla was born and all this stuff happened. And I kind of moved south. I didn't live here anymore. Well, you're friends with Joey Diaz. You should go with Joey. Joey does it in Bur life. Layla was born and all this stuff happened. And I kind of moved south. I didn't live here anymore.

Well, you're friends with Joey Diaz. You should go with Joey. Joey does it in Burbank. If you can make it up to Burbank in a couple days a week. I live an hour and a half away. I'll find a place near you. And what I want is privates. I'll set up my garage with a little pad system. Here's the deal. I know it doesn't

happen often, but anything like staff or anything like that is so dangerous for leila that is it's really scary yeah so like working out in a gym with like 40 guys working out there's too scary there's too frightening things for me working out in a normal jiu-jitsu class right the fucking average novice that doesn't realize he's fucking stupid and fucking pulls my left arm out or my right arm out and i can't play guitar for fucking six weeks or a month or six months even you know so i only train with the teachers that's my way i just say hey i'll pay for that whatever a little extra of private whatever you know i mean and but obviously bro eddie doesn't live out that way so but he told me he was like i got a fucking guy out there who's

awesome he's a fucking black belt he's fucking awesome and i just i haven't followed up as much as he hasn't gotten back you know right right it's just it's not. He's fucking awesome. I haven't followed up as much as he hasn't gotten back. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. It's not like he's ignoring me or anything. I'm just saying I got to follow through on that and get that going, too. Because if I lose enough, I've lost about 15 pounds, honestly, with all this talk we're saying. It's called the Great American Worry Diet.

Worry? Yeah, worry. Spend a week in the hospital and lose 15 pounds. Especially at one that doesn't serve meat or caffeine. Shout out to the Seventh Day Adventists who don't eat meat or caffeine.

The most stressful situations ever. Honestly, I won't even say that. They took such amazing care of my daughter. I love every single one of them. That's awesome, man. They're non-memeeting non-coffee drinking asses i love them all maybe try that diet just keep keep riding it it's working it's working right now right what do you what you said so i'll do without the worry though i just get the worry part of the worry diet is the hard part you know of course that's the whole reason of what i kind of brought up earlier is like that's the how do you get around that how do you get around worrying about your own kid

you're gonna have to read some books on yeah i'm trying how to do that i'm trying i'm trying but i'm also here i'm feeling myself i've smoked a little i've drank a little right i i trust the joe rogan person and his audience that hey if there's an interesting idea out there, go ahead and shoot it out. I'm sure someone will find you. There's gonna, hey, and I know I'm gonna get like 400 fucking shitty ideas, but if there's one good one

out there, great. Yeah, there's gonna be dudes who recommend video games. Hey, fucking GTA 5 fucking solved all my problems, dude. Jump rope, bro. Jump rope and virtual reality.

Hey, ping pong, dude. Ping pong changed my life, man. You know what? You've been given a very difficult test by whatever, by life itself. And you know what? The truth of the matter is, is up until that, man, I had an easy ride. You had a great ride. So don't feel bad for me.

But if you got a suggestion, please shoot it my way. Because I'm at this point in life where it's like i've understood again the communal i think beyond the music lesson of it being communal right is as a human being we are communal people yeah and though it even hails back to the beginning of what we talked about the blues and the reds they are trying to separate us because we're communal and if we all actually sat down even the most fucking worst opinion over there and the worst opinion over there, if we were all in the room together, we could find somewhere over here where we could both at least be the least bit angry at each other. I honestly think we should eliminate political parties. Thank you. I think what we should have is just a bunch of people with varying ideologies.

Pull money out of politics. Pull money. Let's hear an interesting idea. I think what we should have is just a bunch of people with varying ideologies. Let's hear an interesting idea. Here's an interesting idea about England. England announces their elections. There are three months from the announcement of the elections till the election for you to legally campaign. Why is that good?

It's better because of what I said. Again, hailing back to what we said earlier, the day after the president's elected, it seems like they're talking about who's going to run in 2020 already. Right. All right. And this, hey, we might be in a particularly weird circumstance now in America. Again, I won't even delve into that. to that what i want to say is the day after our president is elected we shouldn't be talking about who's going to be the next fucking president until that guy fucks up enough to say who's going to be the next president there should be this there's and again we are in some extremely absurd and

weird circumstances at the moment but under normal circumstances i would, my argument would just be, we're Americans. This guy got elected through the process we all agreed to. And even now, I'll say that, but dude's already fucking... Again, that's why I don't want to visit that, because that's a whole fucking four hours on its own. Honestly, I don't... And I just don't want to even go there, but give America a fucking chance. You know what I mean mean am i making any sense you make because i've had like four whiskeys now brother make america i mean what your idea

is of america versus what everybody else's idea we need to come to some sort of clarification my idea is this and i don't mean to interrupt you my idea is this is that you could be the furthest away from me you could be, and I could be way over there, but if we were in the same room, somewhere in here, we'd find a place that we'd be like, all right, I can live with that. That's the idea. We need to figure out what these things are

that we're talking about living with, because I don't think there's very many of them that we're really disagreeing on between the left and the right. I think there's a lot of bullshit, and I think it's a lot of what we were talking about earlier this tribe i think the people who are heels in the sand the people who elected this personal president right now personal president yeah yeah their personal president it's a personal president this is a very few amount of people there's really

truly very few people that are his base 35 let's keep it real now let's keep it real let's keep it fucking real yeah because a lot of bailed on him because they realized what they voted for was not what they fought they voted in protest almost a lot of people what's his approval rate it's pretty low right it's fucking the lowest in history is it the lowest and again i don't care what i'm saying is like a lot of people said fuck the whole system and for a second they bought into the fact that this guy actually might think the same when this guy spent his entire life fucking over the working class dude in fact as much as i'm a i would have voted the other direction for whatever you want to say and i again i don't give a fuck about hillary clinton i'm not telling you the fucking world would have been saved by hillary

clinton fuck that shit all right that was an entitled motherfucking person who was only given that fucking position because for some reason the the people the the elite of that party thought it was her turn or something i don't know that was wrong that's just as much their fault for losing as fucking we really shouldn't be talking about politics we're way it's already there i'm drunk what i'm saying is this is that dude is gonna give me a tax break if he's successful. And the guys that actually voted for him, the union guys and the fucking working class guys are going to get fucked over.

And at the end of the day, they'll be regretting it as much as like some of the things he's spitting at you and saying to you are appealing. He's not that fucking guy. Just like fuck Hillary Clinton, fuck Donaldald trump so you can't be mad at me fuck all of them bernie sanders was probably our most logical choice but i said fuck him because i read his tax plan and he would have fucking raped me so it's like there's got to be i don't know there's got to be a whole new system where the money is, there has to be a flat tax kind of thing where every fucking person from corporation to, the problem is too many corporations are considered legally people. Dude, we're talking way too much about politics.

You're freaking me the fuck out. I can't do this anymore. Jamie! I'm here. I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying, this is, a person everybody. It's not politics It's like the fact that they're separating and dividing you could be a white supremacist You could be a black fucking nationalist whatever you want to be they're fucking playing on that

They're playing on that these this is designed Facebook all these algorithms are fucking designed to design. What do you want to see on your page? Well, it's remember that well what it. What do you want to see on your page? Remember that. Please, we'll end this conversation right now. If everybody will just remember that. No, I just think it's a fact of the way they set up programs. They set up a program to say, what's going to be most, like the guy who invented Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, whoever's his team, whoever's his team, wants the people who use his product to be the happiest they can be with it.

Right. Correct. I'm assuming here's the direction we're going with this. OK. Right. So if they look at the things you click on. Right. And start developing a pattern and an algorithm. Right. And you click on these extremely right things or you click on these extremely left things. Sooner or later, that's all that's going to be on your page. Instagram even changed their fucking algorithm to it's not like what was just last posted it's what was last posted that's most popular and what's appealing to you that you like okay i mean that's where i'm going with this i don't is that these people are they don't

understand you're being catered to you're being fed you're being fed ideas you want to be fed you're not being challenged and i've always said this about even personal my art. If there's not somebody, it goes back to being in a room by yourself and why I got stagnated with making a record. If there's not somebody in that room somehow to challenge your idea, your idea isn't the best it can be ever. it can be ever I understand what you're saying but I think that an alternative point of view would not be that you're getting fed would that be these algorithms recognize your interests and whether it's golf or South American fishing or fucking skydiving whatever the fuck you're interested in you start searching for that it'll give you things that you can not just what you're searching it's not what you're liking and liking. And it's like you're saying, the conversations that you've best had in your life are almost alternative opinions. And those start getting filtered out of your feed.

No, no, no, no, no, no. It does. That's only your own choices. If you choose to go, why don't you just search out things that are alternative to what your perspective is? Because you're Joe Rogan and you think like that. We're talking about the guy who works fucking 40 hours a week, who gets on Facebook and sees what comes down his feed. I'm telling that guy

that he's no different than you or me. I hope he's listening to you. I hope he is. I hope he's listening to you, but you hear what I'm saying though, right? It's not a fucking dismissed idea that there's guys who got their heads fucking down just trying to get their paycheck for the next week to get their fucking mortgage paid and they look up for a long enough time and maybe Facebook is the

one thing they look at a week and then that's where they get their information from. Yeah, but that's not Facebook's fault. Facebook creates an algorithm that reinforces what your interests are. Facebook, I'm saying be aware. I understand what you're saying. But you're saying it also in the way of like, oh my God, these people are victims of this. This is just a simple algorithm that picks it's not even there but they don't even they're not even aware of that that are victims of themselves and they are i would i

would say they're creating their own universe they are completely creating and this thing is allowing that all right it's you can block whatever you want out if you don't want to see something you know you can create and what do they call it in the fucking in curate your own universe right all right and let me tell you something about resistance what i find interesting like keith oberman resistance sort of sort of he's sometimes he okay he can be a propagandist too i'm just kidding he's a propagandist too like michael more everybody there's no true center right now that's why i keep coming back to like how do you know what's truly true and you want to know where i

find truth where comedians comedians are the new punk rock comedians truthfully are the people who are challenging the status quo right now whether you're talking about the guy on hbo who has the last week tonight show or the daily show kind of news more americans and this is a studied fact trust comedic news as truth than they do fucking anderson fucking vanderbilt cooper vanderbilt he's a vanderbilt middle name he's a vanderbilt i'm just throwing it out you know vanderbilt middle name he's a vanderbilt i'm just throwing it out you know he's a he's not i mean that means he comes from a very fucking privileged family dog you know and he represents a very leftist stance it's fakery is what i'm

saying he's a vanderbilt all right that's what i'm saying it's like saying he's a rock a fucking feller all right and if you don't follow me on that rockafella no rockafella not rockafella oh all right rockafella like the fucking evil fuck that just died oh he's a bad guy all right bad guy all right one percent he's a one percenter all right trust that trust the people you're watching that you trust fox news cnn all this bullshit and hey i might get a lot i ain't even gonna look at twitter letters later so fuck all y'all you know i mean i don't look at twitter i don't care so if you hate what i'm saying i don't care i'm gonna say it anyways do you know because what i'm saying is for the greater good it's like i'm not telling you i'm left i'm right i'm saying there's a place

in the middle where we're all fucking people and we all give a fuck about the same shit like our lives and our children and our eating and our fucking having a roof over our head and there's no reason that the richest Fucking planet on earth can't figure these fucking problems out And the only reason there are problems because they want there to be problems and for you to fucking be fighting with each other You're blue or you're red choose it. Crip. Are you blood? fucking be fighting with each other. You're blue or you're red. Choose it.

Crip. Are you blood? I don't even necessarily know. What's up? This is something. What's up, Joe? You crippling or you blood?

And what you doing? You a blood? You a crip in this political fucking environment. Are you a blue state? Are you a red state? My man, what up? That's what they doing.

That's what they're doing. And I know we didn't want to go here. And I know I tried to push it off for like hours, but I ain't making it personal about a president or a thing. I'm saying there's a system in place that's fucking keeping us locked down and it's fucked up and it's money related. And if we took money out of it, we could get more of an honest politician who would actually give a fuck about your kid. And whether there's fucking power lines going over your house or whether you got health care or whether you got this or that. Until then, don't expect me to give a fuck about any of y'all that's the trunk we talk any of y'all any of y'all that buy into this system and ain't ready to change something and say that something should

be different i think everybody thinks no they don't because they're not doing shit about it they're not doing shit about it joe and i'm not trying to be angry with you i love you you know i love you like a brother okay but not even but all bullshit aside what are you doing there is no bullshit there's no bullshit in this so you say they're not put aside what i'm saying is like until people want to realize that there's an answer and the answer is pulling corporate and fucking it if you can't there should be a limit on what you could donate to a fucking politician should be like a hundred dollars or a thousand dollars let's make it a thousand dollars i think it's facebook like whatever there should be some kind of system that says it's not fucking the coke fucking brothers pumping billions into a dude whether

it's through in misdirection or fucking with it let's keep it fucking real man this is this we're getting fucked as a people hey i do well i'm doing myself a disservice by even saying shit do you think they're gonna come get you no but i think they're gonna tax me more if i if i keep talking if i keep preaching the style of life i believe i will more taxes. Do you really think that they come get you? I will pay more. No, not come get me. You're fucking playing me like I'm dumb. You're doing the entertainment thing right now.

I'm being so real right now, Joe, is that I'm saying they will fucking tax me more. Yes, if the government and the way of life, I think I should pay more. Yes, than the fucking person who makes 36 000 a year but you know what if my accountant's smart enough i don't have to that's honesty all right i can fucking figure out a way not to pay as much taxes because i have as long as you follow the legally even legally we're not talking about illegally i'm talking about totally legally okay i'm talking about what your president is pulling right now that he's never shown you his taxes all right he's pulling it's you can easily skirt a lot of taxes if you have a little bit of information

like a lot of motherfuckers are dumb enough to buy cars all right i don't buy cars i'll keep it fucking real with you i don't buy a fucking car i lease lease a fucking car. You know why? Because it's a fucking basically almost 100% fucking tax write-off. I guarantee you Bill Burr bought his car. Bill Burr owns his house. Bill, I love you. You're one of the funniest guys ever. He doesn't play games with debt. If you fucking lease cars, you can write off the fucking payments.

If he was in front of you right now, he'd be like, fuck you. I want to own it. Good. Good. Own it. And then when you want a new, I like new cars., fuck you, I want to own it. Good. Good. Own it. And then when you want a new, I like new cars. So guess what?

I get a new one every fucking two years. Jesus Christ, you're aggressive with this car thing. No, but what I'm saying is there's games that are played that you're not even tripping on because they sold you on the opposite angle. They got rappers telling you that fucking owning your shit outright is perfect. So pay $100,000 for that car, drive it off the block, get a dent in it. It's worth fucking 40 grand,000 now. I understand you're very passionate about this, but I can see both sides. I could see that someone would want to

lease something because it'd be a nice tax write off, especially if you're incorporated, which I'm sure you are and Bill is and I am. But also I could see someone who says, I like knowing. The guy who's got money has the games down because I have the guys who give me the information. There's a lot of guys that would say, I like knowing. The average show

can pull this off. No, you don't have, being incorporated doesn't involve being rich. I understand that. Yeah. But the fucking guy leasing his Nissan Sentra doesn't. And he could actually incorporate himself and fucking write off his fucking $300 even a month payment. Like, there's

ways to get, yo, there's fucking games that are being played that people don't fucking know about is my point I understand this is a deep game. It is going to thank games that are being played that people don't know about I love you, and I feel like maybe I'm drunk as you're looking at me like I'm talking to shit right definitely drunk We're not a real age a little bit, but we're buzzed drunk is way first drunk. I'd be trying to fight you Joe Well, let's not do that. We're friends is way first. Drunk, I'd be trying to fight you, Joe. Well, let's not do that. We're friends.

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but you can go get it also at GoodDadGang.com I make not a goddamn thing off it that's a shout out to that fucking whole philosophy. More shout outs. This is insane. This is a record number of shout outs, ladies and gentlemen. I hope you've enjoyed the show as much as I have. Am I playing myself or something, Joe?

No, I'm just gonna get out of here. Or is this just a good podcast? It was fun. Okay, because you look happy and that's two things. Either we did a good podcast or it's like oh my god, Everlast played himself this whole time. It was a good time. Everlast played himself this whole time. It was a good time. It was Everlast played himself the whole time. I love you. Just understand that whatever I say and whatever I do is only intended to express love for humanity.

I don't give a fuck if you voted for Donald Trump. I don't give a fuck if you voted for Hillary Clinton, all that political shit. What I was trying to point out with that, and I'll end it on this, is all of us are not involved in the game that's being played. We are victims of the game that's being played in a lot of ways. And that doesn't mean we can't change shit. It's easily changed, but we're told it's not easy. We are in a hurricane of evolution, ladies and gentlemen. Get the fucking money out of politics.

Technological, cultural, communication. If the Koch brothers can't donate to a fucking party They can't affect a fucking election This is a hailstorm Some of these ideas were good I hope you enjoyed it Some of them were good, some of them were buzzed Some of them were fucking fun to listen to And entertaining

I hope if you take anything out of it, it's Jocko Willink's video Good That's it? No I take offense It's a good part. That's a good part of this. It's a good inspirational thing, but dude, that was already on the internet.

This was brand new, and I gave you jewels, buddy. I love you. I love you, too. I gave you jewels. I agree with those. Those jewels are powerful. One more Warpoint video before we go. Let's end it on a Warpoint video.

I gotta leave. Be real. I gotta leave. I'm so sorry, but I can't. Tell people where to go and get it. End it on it. Walk out on it, Joe. Can't do it because I got to leave. I got to leave. Be real. I got to leave. I'm so sorry, but I can't. Tell people where to go and get it because it's 447. Walk out on it, Joe. Can't do it because I got to do ads. Do the ads, walk out on it.

I can't. I can't. Honestly, I'm late already. Everlast, I love you. I love you too, young Jamie. I love you, Joe Rogan.