The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Breakdown - Mayweather vs. McGregor

Episode Date: August 16, 2017

Joe sits down with Brendan Schaub to discuss the upcoming fight between Floyd Mayweather & Conor McGregor.

Five, four, three, two, one. Fresh from fucking Dublin! Brendan Shaw returns! Dude, you were in the motherland. You were in the motherland for days. I was, man. The motherland. Now it's the motherland. Well, it's sort of one quarter of my heritage. It's the capital of filing, that's for sure. Rogan is an Irish name.

I don't know if you know that lad. Is it really? Yeah. I'm one quarter Irish. Everyone out there, bring Rogan out here. What do you want me? Talk to him, man. Rogan, you're Irish, aren't you?

Aren't you? Fucking animals, bro. Favorite place I've ever been. Really? Yeah, man. Those are savages. Savages. It's not. Really? Yeah, man. Those are savage. Savages. They're just, they're not even, it's not even that they're savages.

They're super friendly. Yeah, they're very friendly. Like, so friendly. Not that people were, you know, in Australia or London or Manchester weren't, but in Dublin, they were, like, I was like, damn, I don't want to leave, man. Like, I loved it. I was thinking yesterday when I was watching, like, Conor McGregor work out and, like, all the people were surrounding him while he was working out.

One of those open workouts. It's real weird. He's standing around hitting the bag and he seems to just be doing his work. Doing his normal work. Hitting the bag. But there's just this circle of people right there. Like he's a lion. Well, it's not only that. He can't even move. He can't

dance around. He can't back up too much. He's just right in front of that bag and he's gotta pretend those people aren't there as he works his combinations. It's just a show, right? It's just a show to hype the fight more. I guess it is. I guess it is. And then the box impures make fun of him. Yeah. Yeah. Of his movement. Yeah. They won't make fun of him if he lands the way he did in that clip

of Pauly. That's what I'm saying. Dude, when he landed that straight left, blam and snapped Pauly's head back. I'm like, hey Pauly, why didn't you talk about that? He's been on a tear just going off. That's really significant. But if a guy like Conor McGregor does that, that is straight

and clean and sneaky. 16 ounces, too, huh? And a little off speed, like a little off speed in the initial part of the movement, and then he drops it in, bang! That's like snake-like left hand. Like, he's getting super comfortable if he can do that to Pauly Malignaggi. Like, whatever you say about those clips, all we know is that that's what we've seen. We've only seen these little short little clips.

Like, right here. Watch this left hand. Watch how he sneaks this in. Boom! Son! Speed, son! Timing! Are they ounces on, too? That left hand is, son. Timing. The eight ounces on two?

That left hand is fucking legit. Super legit. Here it is again. Watch this. Boom! Dude, that is down the pipe. Call it what you want. I mean, granted, that's the 12th round, but still, Paul, two-time world champion.

Yeah, I don't know what round that was. I don't care. Me neither. I don't care either. If Connor can do that with that kind of speed to Paulie Malignaggi and time that like that, that's... Look, you can't sleep on him.

He's got magic. That's what I'm saying, Joe. It doesn't always work. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't always work. It kind of does. Nate Diaz has a little magic too. Different type of magic. Yeah, but that, you know, in that fight Nate Diaz had the magic. And it was just not Conor's night.

But the rematch was Conor's night. No, not really. No, I don't think it was. I think the rematch was both of their night. I think if you really want to look at that fight honestly, the second fight, I don't think you see a winner. The only thing that I think you could say makes Conor a winner is that he dropped Nate. Multiple times.

But Nate was saying that he went down with punches anyway because he was hoping Conor would follow him to the ground, which may or may not be true. But it is a good strategy if you have a wicked guard. You've been watching the sport way too long to believe that. Nate's got a wicked guard. Wicked guard. If he really did decide to get, like when he gets clipped, just to go down with it and to try to bring him to the ground.

Look, Fabrizio does that. Fabrizio Verdun absolutely does that. He doesn't do it by getting dropped in the face with a left hand. Well, it was a very good shot, no doubt about it. But the idea is if you get hit with a good shot, you can decide to go down. Bait him in. You can decide to bait him in. Three times in a row?

I think you have to take it into consideration as a possibility. Maybe once. Three in a row? It might be every time he would try it. We've never seen him do it before. You're right, we've never seen him do it before. He doesn't have these tendencies. The only guy who's ever really fucked up Nate in a fight is Josh Thompson.

Josh Thompson head kicked him, and every other fight, even when he's gotten beat up, like the Dos Anjos fight, he's got his legs beat up, and Dos Anjos definitely won a decision. Nate didn't get fucked up and stopped. He's never got his ass whooped josh is the only one who stopped him yeah but he still never got it like his ass never got his ass what well you know what you could say the dos anjos fight was kind of a beating the dos anjos is kicking the shit out of his leg still coming forward like still that's it he's never been broke you can say that they've never broke his will 100 even in the thom fight, if they let it go, he probably would have recovered eventually if he didn't go unconscious.

Correct. See, I think if the real test of who's better, Conor McGregor or Nate Diaz, is if they fight at 55 in the trilogy fight. Because 70, it's a toss-up. You know, Nate won one, Conor won one. That's whatever. They're both not fine at 70. If they go to 55, you have your true, I think, winner there.

Well, you know what? I mean, I like Nate at 55 better anyway. Way better. When he gets real lean, like in the Michael Johnson fight. Best he's ever looked, dude. Destroyed Johnson. Shredded at the weigh-in. Shredded city.

My man was jacked. Yes. Just jack, jack, jack, jack. I'm assuming that's what he's waiting for because they've offered him fights, right? But he's just waiting for that big Conor payday. I think him and his brother are smart. They're huge cultural icons. They can go places and get paid and they're still in the mix for you know whatever weight class well Nick's 55 or 70 sure is if he wants to be no he suspended for a lot very

long we just gotta pay he's just gotta pay does not yeah it's not a suspension anymore really yeah yeah what it is is he owes them $100,000 and he won't give it. So gangster. Well, they wanted like $165,000. I think he gave them like $65,000. You can argue that, though. Remember with Conor? Like, listen, you're suspended.

You're not fighting. You got to shoot a commercial for us. Remember that? They asked him to shoot a bullying commercial and pay us $175,000. Conor went, cool, just not fighting Vegas. They went, all right, no money, just a 15-second tweet, and then we'll let you fight here. Well, you've got to realize when a guy's throwing a Monster Energy drink

and they're throwing water bottles. I don't like to say this, but this is true. There's a big part of what's going on there that is theatrics that's no different than pro wrestling. It's called selling a fight. It's called selling a fight, and that's what they're doing. They're pro wrestling. It's called selling a fight. It's called selling a fight. And that's what they're doing. They're throwing shit at each other, selling a fight.

Do you think he's really trying to incite a riot? Occasionally, yes. The DC John Jones thing, that was legit. Different animal. And how much did that sell the fight? The UFC was like, let's just keep that in a loop. They kept playing it over and over. And then they're like, we do not approve of this.

This is ridiculous. Show it one more time. Show it again. One i love that though best clip ever yeah you know and the other thing they did they capitalize i don't know if they did on the uh john jones saying you know i did cocaine a week before i beat your ass no they did that was doing that best the greatest like the most savage line ever ever dude. Dude, Jon Jones is no joke. And Jon Jones, like, in shape with something to prove, like he did against Cormier. Scary. God.

So scary. God damn it. When he kicked him in the face, my word. How about how the fact that he says the exact perfect thing after the fight's over? Correct. About Daniel. Smart marketing. About Daniel.

It's just, you know, I mean, it's just championship. It felt real for the first time, too. Yeah, I mean, he probably felt so much gratitude. You know, when I said to him, like, I didn't know what I was going to say to him, but when I said to him, you made it back. That's how I felt. Like, not just that he made it back to the title, but like, he made it back from the dark lands.

From life. He made it back to me. From running away from a hit and run accident with who knows what the fuck you've got on you. You know, all that. Made it back is an understatement. I mean, homeboy. And people never stopped cheering for him.

Very interesting. You know? People are mad at DC. They booed DC. Yeah. But then John Jones, his fame went up. Why is it? He hit a pregnant lady, broke her arm, and ran from the scene.

It's crazy. I don't understand. First of all, I don't understand how you could not be a fan of DC. I don't understand it. I don't understand. There's nothing wrong with them. What would you not be a fan of? The guy's a fucking animal.

He won the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix. Undefeated at heavyweight. Yeah. I mean, he's throwing around Josh Barnett, who's a 255-pound gorilla. Daniel Cormier's hoisting him through the air. Spiking him on his head. Just blam! He's macho, man.

I mean, the guy gets into MMA fairly late in his career, right? Massively successful amateur wrestler. Gets into MMA and is running through people. Has a fight, the first fight in the UFC he has against Frank fucking Meir. Beats the brakes off of him. Former UFC heavyweight champion, your first fight in the UFC. And beats the brakes Mir. Beats the brakes off of him. Former UFC heavyweight champion. Your first fight in the UFC. And beats the brakes off him.

Yeah, and beats the brakes off him. I mean, it wasn't the greatest fight, but it still whooped his ass. Yeah, I mean. Got underhooked and did work. It's just people got mad at him for the Anderson Silva fight. That he held Anderson Silva down. That one bothered me a little bit, too. I can see why fans are like, come on, man.

Anderson Silva, two-day notice or whatever the hell it was. Come on. But Anderson front kicked him in the gut. Remember that? Yeah. He heard him. He just didn't take a chance. Especially UFC 200, such a big card and there's so much hope.

When you don't perform, people are like, come on, man. And with DC, I think the biggest thing is, and it's not his fault. He's better than everyone in the world at light heavyweight except for Jon Jones. So when Jon left and he had the title, people were like, that's fake. That's not his fault. It's not his fault. That's Jon.. So when Jon left and he had the title, people were like, that's fake. That's not his fault. It's not his fault. That's Jon. Be mad at Jon.

Could you imagine if you could get Daniel's brain inside of Rumble's body? Oh, my God. That doesn't happen, right? Isn't that interesting how that doesn't happen? It's like Jon Jones is the closest thing to a guy who's got insane talent, but he also has almost like that Darryl Elkins, Darren Elkins, rather, the Darren Elkins mentality of never quitting. Remember when he got his arm hyperextended real bad by Vitor? His arm was fucked up.

Never tapped. When he fought the Gustafson fight, he wasn't in shape at all. And went five five hard round which is the best fight ever and was winning the final round or how about against ryan bader ryan bader's freaking good i think at times rank four or five in the world doesn't even really train they said they saw him like two days and went in there and cradle him like a baby and whooped his ass in the first round beat his beat his ass. I mean, it's just talking about a different animal, man. He's a different animal, but he's also got this mindset.

Like, he has a real champion's mindset. Whereas, like, Rumble doesn't really like to fight. He's just super good at it. You don't think Rumble likes it? He says he doesn't. Oh, he says he doesn't. He says he doesn't want to fight anymore. He says he doesn't want brain trauma.

He doesn't want to be rolling around with dudes. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were saying I got that confused with DC. Oh, yeah. Rumble's done. Yeah, yeah. But Rumble is like the scariest guy ever at 205 when it comes to striking. Like, who the fuck's ever been scarier than Rumble?

Nobody. Ostemeyer. Pretty goddamn close right now. Woo, he's scary right now. No technique, just fucking. Oh, he's got technique, man. I'm just playing. He's got serious technique. Oh, dude. Jimmy. Oh, he's got technique, man. I'm just playing. He's got serious technique.

Oh, dude. Jimmy Manilow, he's like your power puncher? Dude. Very cool. Check this out. Yeah. Goof. Interesting cat, man.

Interesting cat. Was he three in the world? Yeah, he knocked out Sir Kunov, right? Knocked out Misha. And then just murks Jimmy Manilow. Like walked through him and called it too. He's like, I'm knocking him out in the first minute or so. I'm just going to go do it.

Jesus Christ. And Jimmy didn't even land anything. Like inside this clinch, he catches him with that hard left hook. He's got hammers for fists too, bro. But he's like rushing in. He's not calculated. You know what I'm saying? He's not calculated like a John or like a JDS where he's sitting back.

He's got confidence in his power for sure. The dude has brick hands too. You ever shake his hand? No, apparently. Big old Brock Lesnar style hands. Now, does that work against a Gus Finn and John Jones is the question. We're going to find out soon, bitch. That motherfucker might be champion of the world.

Just 70 Twitter followers. Just fucking light heavyweight champion of the world. UFC's like, fuck. Fuck. Just what do you do, bro? Well, you know what? I don't know. He's changing his nickname to No Time.

Is that what he changed his nickname to? That's awful! Short time, no time. Because he was pointing to his watch after the fight. It's time. That was like his move. Oh, yeah, no time. No time.

Like, after the fight, he was pointing to his watch. He's like, this is my new nickname. It's time. I have no time. No time. He's nasty, man. He's very nasty. He's got real legit 100% one-punch power And when he clips guys you can see they're like oh shit, and he goes bananas on him See I think they should do Gusvin Jones right mm-hmm and then do Ostemeyer versus DC.

Well, if DC wants to fight again, we're going to see what happens. Did you see what DC said? He said he does? He goes, not only am I going to fight him, I'm going to fight John again. Jesus Christ! Give it up, sir. My heart can't take it. You think you should give it up?

I think it gets right back in there. Why not? It was a good fight up until the moment John landed that high kick. I agree. I don't think he ever beats John. I think he's... You might be right, but you might be wrong.

And then it gets even crazier. But see, I don't think he's ever going to get the fight either. I don't want to see it again. He certainly could if he beats a few people. He certainly could

because you could play clips of that fight and say, you know, he was doing very well in that fight. I think John was winning. I think John was landing more volume and he was mixing things up really well

Those ring rust to like that's John kind of feeling things out, and then once he got comfortable Oh, this is what we're doing. He do should he didn't seem ring rusty at all I see I smooth right from the beginning a little smooth But I I do think DC's pressure and stuff like that and just getting under his feet and once he did then he started to T off and take over I think yeah, he found his rhythm and he found DC's pressure and stuff like that and just getting under his feet. And once he did, then he started to tee off and take over. I think, yeah, he found his rhythm and he found DC's timing. And then they settled in a little bit, too. Once they got into the second round, both guys had exerted quite a bit of energy,

hit each other quite a few times. And then that third round. And then you're going to beat that. I think that was DC's best chance to beat him. Now John's off to the races. Now it's O's Demire, good luck with no time. There's O's Demire. There's Gustafson. Then Brock Lesnar. You got Stipe. I think he goes to beat him. Now John's off to the races. Now it's O's Demire, good luck with no time. There's O's Demire, there's Gustafson, then Brock Lesnar,

you got Stipe. I think he goes to heavyweight. Who knows, man? I mean, if they work out some sort of a deal where he fights Brock Lesnar... Oh, they will. Good luck! Come on, Joe. Of course they will. When he called him out at the end of the fight, I was like, oh my goodness.

I saw Brad Pitt's shadow box on Instagram. I'm like, oh my goodness. I saw Brad Pitt shadow box on Instagram. I'm like, you better be careful, son. UFC going to reach out, sign you, CM Punk. You better watch your easy. I think Brad Pitt would fuck CM Punk. Me too, though. The Brad Pitt from Snatch? Also, I think Brad Pitt, that guy lived with Angelina Jolie for like 10 years.

No much rage. She must have pent up inside him. Just pure hate. Him or Johnny Depp. Just talk of organic, sustainable farming and adopting new kids. You got random kids? Who the fuck is this? Just rawr!

He just wants to smash. Just go in there and fuck him up. Pit smash? Just pit smash on bitches? Just so angry. Listen to that crazy lady he lived with for decades. It made him an alcoholic. Do you hear it?

He's like, I was a raging alcoholic. I'm sure he was. We had these random kids. He was, I love kids, but there's a new one every goddamn day. Like, I can't keep up, man. Just kid after kid. Oh, my God. Yeah, I mean, that's just my opinion.

He'd slap a bitch, though. I mean, maybe she's a wonderful person. I mean, she obviously is very charitable. Maybe she's exhausting, too, though. She might be exhausting. That's the vibe I get. Hey, bro, she had a vial of Billy Bob Thornton's blood that she carried around

her neck. And Billy Bob, I'm not hating on you, she was and is fucking beautiful. I get how you can make some mistakes. I get how people make mistakes. Blood around your neck, though? Hey, what are we gonna do? We're gonna live forever? I'll take a chance. For a guy like him? When does a freaking bed. For a guy like him?

When does a guy like him get a girl like that? The universes have to, like, collide. There has to be some wormhole. You gotta talk some such mad shit, she puts her- your blood around her neck. He's a bad motherfucker, though. Super strong dick game. She wore blood around her neck, Joe. Yeah. I think they both did. They wore each other's blood. Yeah, that's

what they're doing. They're both wearing each other's blood. That's another level. Not only that, but here's the real problem with it. You tell people about it. Yeah, just keep it to yourself, man. Yeah, you're telling people about it. You tell people it's dragon blood or some shit. When you tell it's her, it's a little weird.

Well, I think anybody that's as good an actress as she is, and she's a really fucking good well i think anybody that's as good an actress as she is she's a really fucking good amazing she's really good i think you have to have a good percentage of crazy like it's got to be way up there in the 90s actors too though i mean even for men like the the men actors who were really good like dan and day lewis motherfucker was a shoe cobbler for six years just to play like some 30 minute role or something he went full fucking cobbler for six years just to play some 30-minute role or something. He went full fucking cobbler, man. He's working as a cobbler right now.

In London or some shit. No, I think he lives in Connecticut and he makes furniture or some shit. Dog. Dog. You never go full Lewis, man. But that's just because he's legit. That's really who he is. Like an actual artist. Yeah, but that's why he's so interesting.

It's like his art or what his mind goes towards, it's not dictated by finance. It's not dictated by the box office success he could potentially have. It's literally dictated by what he's interested in. If he's interested in making shoes, he's just going to make shoes. Yeah, like you're not going to see him cast as Superman. Like he's like, that's not his art. You know what I'm saying? We admire the shit out of that because we compromise all the time people are always compromising You're always like, you know trying to suck up to the boss hoping you get that raise or you know

You're compromising what you say around the office because you know You're at this level of the company ladder these people above you that'll get upset if you talk about things of the company ladder, these people above you that'll get upset if you talk about things. We'd love someone just free. And authentic, too. Yeah. He's like, what? Play Batman?

Get the fuck out of here. What? Batman? Batman. Bruce Wayne? What the fuck is that? Get the fuck away from me. Get out of here. Yeah.

Ben Affleck was like, I got this. Yeah, Ben Affleck's like, this is perfect for me. This shit is perfect. Who was the other homeboy who I was surprised played Batman? Well, Christian Bale was the best Batman, in my opinion. Just his voice bothered me. It was a little fake, right? Yeah.

I'm Batman. I'm Batman. But he got to go comic book a little bit, and that's how you go comic book. But anyway, why would it change his voice? Why would the suit? He's got to make a fake voice. You're going to make a fake voice for your superhero? So people don't recognize you're Bruce Wayne?

Yeah, don't you at least have some mouth thing that changes your- Do you have like a cat phrase or something people would know? That would be dope if you covered your face. Like why do we need to see the lower chin of Batman? First of all, I don't think that's a good idea for protective measures. You have a white button where the most vulnerable part of your face is. Yeah, it's strange. Like if I came in here- Yeah, what's that?

If I came in here and you had a bat suit on, if you had the Batman suit on, I'd be like, oh, it's strange. Like if I came in here and you know, what's that if I came in here the bat suit on? If you had the Batman suit on, I'd be like, oh, it's Joe. You know what I'm saying? Like it's not a very good fucking cover up. The chin part is terrible because like that's the part you'd want to punch and it would be like so white If you're in a fight with Batman just shoot for the chin you can't miss it It's like if you if you're hitting focus pads you get used to like looking at this one spot yeah it's like you have camouflage on everywhere but the spot you're getting knocked out it's like the horrible idea when you look at it it's so ridiculous when you look at it it's the dumbest idea ever like you're gonna not protect the most photo how about just open open the nose part too? Let your nose get smashed.

That's so crazy. That's so strange. Why don't they... I mean, do they really have to have that same suit? Why are we still... Why come no one's ever brought this up? I don't know. No one's ever figured it out until us. It's like Bruce Wayne from Batman in the fucking like...

Batman. At least he didn't have like a protective suit on. Adam West? No, he just had the thing over his eyes. He was just in disguise. He's in spandex. This Batman has gotten to the point where he's in this basically an armored suit.

Right? And meanwhile, he doesn't cover his face. Oh, it was Superman. He covered a little bit of it. He covered his chin. He's basically a knight there. Meanwhile, he's going to war with Superman. Do you know how goddamn stupid that is? And doing work. I watched it the other day. He kind of a knight there. Meanwhile, he's going to war with Superman. Do you know how goddamn stupid that is? And doing work. I watched it the other day. He kind of whooped his ass.

Dude, Superman is from another planet. He can fly so fast, he makes the world spin backwards. He makes time go backwards. He's a master of time. He can cut things in half with his eyeballs. He's got laser shoots out of his eyes. He can just pick his dumb ass up and carry him as high as he wants and let him go.

Yeah, in his face. Game over. Movie's over. He could bring you to the sun. Yes. Throw you into the sun, you fucking idiot. What the fuck are we talking about, Hollywood? He flies!

He's got bullshit on my face. How crazy is the idea that gravity is so dense on Superman's world that when he comes to Earth, he can fly, and then the atmosphere is so different that his body's bulletproof but he looks just like us but the atmosphere this is what people don't understand if you went somewhere if you're like from earth right and then you go to like somewhere that has like less gravity like space Like those guys that go to the space station, they are fucked up after a year. Like it doesn't make them stronger. It makes them weaker.

They get weaker, yeah. Their bones shrink. Yeah. Like they come back, man, and their bones atrophy. Like they lose bone density. They come back and they're frail. Can't be healthy. That's why there's only a certain amount of time you can be there, right?

Like the longest is right over a year? Yeah. I think they've hit the new record. I think a guy hit the new record. But I had, damn, what is his name? Commander Chris- Hadfield. Hadfield.

Had him on the podcast. He was fascinating. And he was describing what it was like coming back from, how long was he up there for? I think it was a year, right? He just came back looking like Schmeagle or some shit? said when you land he said 879 days oh my god there's a russian up there he's been for five missions oh okay those russians became the man who spent the most time in space when he surpassed so that's like overall time ever that guy just keeps going to space 2.2 years over like six trips though that dude's

trying to get away from his wife he spent that's five years yeah russians always gotta take another level don't they i think you'd have to say like what's the longest space mission or something consecutive 16 days oh that's the most huh but that was 2015 i believe commander Hatfield was after that. Still a long ass time. I might not be right about that. But either way, fucking 100 days. Shit. I don't want to do 100 days in the woods. Dude, I don't want to do 10 days on the road.

10 days, I was super lonely. I felt like I was in space. Yeah, we were talking about that. Like, you got to bring friends. It's a big, big part of it. And it's good for the friends, too. It's, you know, get guys a gig like that where they can open up for you in front of a packed house. These cool venues.

Yeah. Also, like, warm up the crowd. Like, I'm going out there just like, yo! Which is fine. You know, the only time I ever did that in the last, like, ten years was when I was helping Callan out. When I warmed a crowd up for Callan's special. For a special, right? Yeah.

And I was like, this is so weird. Yeah. To go on stage, just go on stage and say hi. Yeah. And not have someone in front of you. But it's a good exercise. Yeah, because you've got to get them into it. Yeah.

It brought me right back to when I used to do it. It was like right away, I started thinking of how when I first started out, that's most of the shows I would do. That's what you do, right? I'd be the opening act. Yeah. Yeah. Like in Dublin, doing a shot two in the afternoon would do. That's what you do, right? That would be the opening act. Like in Dublin, doing a show at 2 in the afternoon

was just crazy, man. Now why'd you guys do it like that? They booked on such short notice. It's the way I'd do it at 2 and I'd do another one at like 7. Oh, wow. That's just the way they wanted to do it. How did you get away from those savages after the show was over?

I did a meet and greet with everyone and then they bounced they're like hey let's get a pint i'm like which one like up there i'm like see you there not just like chill i drank so much guinness is ridiculous yeah they'll put you down i loved it man loved it yeah there it's a different world over there it really is ireland england you know um they they have a long history of tradition that we don't really understand. Just what their culture's like, you know, their language and their history. You go over there, you're like, oh, this pub is 700 years old.

Like, what? Yeah, I went to, it was supposed to be the oldest pub in Ireland. And there was bullet holes from fighting, you know, the rebels. Wow. And they were in there. And it was family owned since day one. And the owner was this dude who's old as fuck now but he was born and raised upstairs he lives there now he's the only one still alive we're there just all night with patty hooligan it was great man it was great it was so awesome just sipping guinness and eating crisp shit my pants

afterwards but no crisps are potato chips right yeah i call them crisp i'm from oh you're from there do you call football football or soccer i say american football because i have a bit that i talk about football i go american football otherwise you're screwed you're super screwed but you know what's best for me joe is like i did uh what was it like 10 shows in uh four days or something like some 10 shows in five days or something like that. And I wish I could do it more here. It's just the reps for me. The reps. Oh, yeah.

That's what we're talking about. Comedy club weekends are so good. So good. Like when I did Salt Lake, Salt Lake City, when I did Wise Guys, I was like, man, I really get to feel it again. Like what it's like to do four one hour shows in a weekend. It's like it gets every timing down. And then taglines, they start like adding on.

You start coming up with new ideas. Dude, what is it about coffee that gives you phlegm? Even just fucking. Really? This is just cold brew. Caveman cold brew. Those nitro coffees. There's no dairy or anything.

You shouldn't. I'm always ready to cough. Really? Or clear my throat. And it's annoying. I feel like it's an older thing. Nah, man. It's always and it's annoying. I feel like it's an older thing. No, man. It's always been that way with me with cough.

It's an older thing. Old guys get all phlegmy. Sue Jr., get my king! I drink a shitload of coffee, and my voice is good. You know when it is, for whatever weird reason, when if a guest is talking, like if you've got a good story, and your story goes on for for a few minutes and then I don't talk for a while it all builds up that's Callum secret yeah he's always trying to avoid coughing I told you you get your fucking throat checked out I mean he's been doing since I've known him. Just the coffee. Yeah not stop

AIDS Fucking dick um so about football man I wanted to ask you about this because uh we were talking recently about this guy who retired super young It was like 26 right some dude just retired from the NFL. Yeah, I'm dying Joe. Is that what you're asking? No, no what I'm asking is like you as a guy who's played football and as a guy who sees all this shit that's coming out now, do you think there's going to be a change in the game? Do you think there's going to be, like, less people that are signing up for it? That's what they say. And they say, like, with the youth leagues now, they're like, oh, we're teaching them how to hit proper.

But it's like. There's no such thing. There's no. It's not real. Like, that's a fun campaign and stuff like that. But, you know, is America ever going to get rid of football because of CT? No, man. It's part of the game.

It's literally part of the game. Wait until the UFC numbers come out. You're going to be surprised. I have friends now. I talk to them like, oh, my God, man. Do you not realize what's going on here? And so once that comes out, now we know it with boxing and mixed martial arts. Of course there's going to be brain trauma.

Guys are going to punch you in the head. With football, people are like, what? But it's literally part of the game. It's just it is what it is. Now, is juice worth the squeeze? In football, the argument is it depends. For your health, if you're coming from nothing, it pays for your college. You make $40 million, your family, your family, their family set for life.

God, the juice might be worth the squeeze depending on how bad you're going to have it. If you can get to that level. Correct. Yeah. I mean, there's probably a lot of guys who wash out. More likely than not, they wash out. Yeah, I knew a dude who washed out, and he was really fucked up. The point where he was seeing shit that wasn't there.

He would go out in the yard and start talking to himself. God, it's such a bummer, man. Not good. Everyone responds different, but they say the biggest thing, and I guess it's the biggest thing because I've played football since I was, what, six years old, but when you're young hitting, when you're young hitting, it's just like you shouldn't hit until, they say probably to high school, but if you don't hit in high school,

you're going to get left behind. You know what's interesting about that is that there's a real good argument when it comes to striking that if you can teach kids how to play fight when they're young, just make sure they play fight. You don't want them going to war. The quick way to teach them, teach them how to play fight striking when they're young. Do Thai style kickboxing or just where you're boxing but you're not hitting too hard because they're not going like do like Thai style kickboxing or, you know, like just where you're boxing, but you're not hitting too hard because they're not going to hit

each other hard anyway. Yeah. Right. They can't, they don't hit that hard. And then on top of that, teach them to not hit hard at all. And they teach them to like be real solid on technique. Then they, they're super accustomed to the movements of striking. And then you get them to a position when they're like 16 18 they've been

boxing their whole fucking life and their movements are like fully ingrained to the point where an average athlete coming into it at a later age without all those like super fine-tuned movements ingrained in you while you were growing up and developing you almost don't have a chance you know like when he gets to like a roy jones j in his prime level. For sure. You know, if you're like an average athlete who learns boxing at 26 and then you at 30 have to box Roy Jones. I mean, yeah. Good. Enjoy that.

Good fucking luck. I don't care what kind of athlete you are. Good. No, it doesn't matter. Fucking luck. Yeah. And some people make that argument with, you know, Floyd Mayweather. They said, listen, his uncle, his dad, he's been doing since he was like six. He's the best argument. The best argument. Yeah. And some people make that argument with Floyd Mayweather. They say, listen, his uncle, his dad, he's been doing since he was, what, six? He's the best argument. The best argument. Yeah. The best

argument. He never gets hit. He's been hit in a professional career that spanned 49 fights. He's been hit maybe hard seven or eight times. True. The only, and there's a few X factors in this fight, the only kind of thing that gives people hope if you're on Team MMA or Team Conor, which is not MMA versus boxing, but if you're Team Conor, is these X factors of Floyd's had two years off, right?

He's had two years off. But in the past, he's taken time off and he comes back better. But he is 40. So that has to be something. You know? And the other thing, why is he doing it? Is he doing it for money? Is he doing it for attention?

Why is he coming back to get to 50 and then uh they got eight ounce gloves which they officially approved today eight ounce gloves is a huge huge advance for connor i think man it's all it's all interesting man but they're all x factors right like we don't really to be honest no one really knows i think i have an idea what i think's gonna happen but no one knows right but and that's why i think the the footage ofor sparring Pauly is such a big deal, because people go, oh, shit. No, he can actually box. And I even think Dana and the Fertittas who were there watching go, uh, we actually got something here.

And that's why it was such a big deal. Because I think everyone's like, all right, Conor, MMA, he's good. I've seen him move around. I'm telling you, this dude, as far as boxing, he's going to give you guys some problems. He's going to give you the best all-time problems. Who knows? What kind of training had Paulie been doing before that fight? What kind of shape

was he in? Not in 12-round shape. Paulie just got off the plane. Why did he do 12 rounds? That's what they asked him to. Had he been training? He got word from Conor's team that they're going to use him, so he started to train some, but it's not like he was getting ready for a fight fight. So that's what he said.

He goes, man, for me to go 12 rounds was tough. I wasn't expecting to go all 12 rounds. Because the first day they used him, I think he said he only did six or eight rounds. And then he was like, oh, we're going to spar tomorrow more, and I'll get in better shape, stuff like that, get used to the fighting shape. And they didn't use him. Then he flew to cover the Mikey Garcia-Broner fight and then came back, and he was fresh off the plane, and then he sparred 12 rounds. So he's like, they just did me dirty, man.

That's his whole thing. His feelings are hurt. He's like, why would they do that, man? I was here to help them. Well, that's the kind of help they wanted. They just wanted the kind of help that he didn't want to give they wanted to kind of help where Connor beats the fuck out Of a world chair right and that's what Connor said though Yeah, like in Connors defense when they go you bring Paulie English. Yeah, I'm bringing he says it's on Showtime during the media scrum

He goes yeah, I'm bringing him in to fuck him up, and I think Paulie thought oh we said that yeah He was I'm yeah, I'm gonna bring him in and fuck him up Word for word yeah, that's on that bring him in and fuck him up. Word for word. That's on document. Yeah, it's documented. So then Pauly gets in and goes, oh, we'll spar and be all good. But remember, six months prior to this, Pauly goes, I could beat Conor with one hand tied behind my back. Conor's like a baby elephant. He stores that and was like, all right, man.

Oh, he said that? Whoops. But he thought it was just hype in the fight. He thought they would spar and be like boys, but that just didn't happen. Conor's literally there just to prove a point Well, he it's a very important point to prove before a giant fight like that Like that video alone is probably worth who knows how many? Thousands of hundreds of thousands of buys on priceless priceless. That's worth so much money

I mean how many more people a lot of people were gonna buy the fight anyway but how many more people are gonna buy the fight now going to buy the fight anyway, but how many more people are going to buy the fight now that you see Conor landing that straight left and then dropping Paul and Paulie said it's a push down and you can see that it's not a push down. I mean, it's just not. If you get pushed down like that, you probably

concussed already. Yeah, if your balance is off, I see what you're saying. That's so bad. He was saying something about him getting grabbed on the back of the head. You can watch it. Watch the knockdown. Paulie's just saying it's dirty. I see what you're saying. That's so bad. He was saying something about him getting grabbed on the back of the head. You could watch it. Watch the knockdown. Pauly's just saying it's dirty. I get that. I get that, but he signed up for it. It's a fight. But the other thing is Pauly's saying

and he goes, take what you want from the videos, but I think Connor and his team and Dana fucked up putting this out because now Floyd Mayweather's team knows this is how he fights. This is the dirty stuff he does so they can warn the ref. There's nothing dirty there. The slight holding and hitting.

In boxing, that's dirty. You can get away with it, but that's frowned upon. It's going to happen. Those rabbit punches. Floyd's going to do that. See this part right here. Give me some volume on that so you can hear that. He's hitting him hard, man.

Okay, you know, he hits him with a straight left that's clean and then it looks like he's wobbled and he hits him with a right hand afterwards. Play that part one more time when he goes down. Like, you can't... I don't see an argument. I've tried to look at it. Of a push down? I don't see it.

I don't see it. This is the beginning part. And that's a legit ref, by the way. Yeah, Joe Cortez. Super legit. He's beating the shit out of me. Okay, I don't give a fuck what anybody says. Like, if he can land those combinations on Paulie Malignaggi like that at any point in life, that is...

Homeboy can box. Yeah, man. He's hitting hard, too. To me, that validates Conor. But at the same time, in Paulie's defense, you know, 9-12 round fight shape, he's exhausted. I get all that. I get all that. But still...

Paulie should have never done that. Yeah, he messed up. He must have underestimated him. You know, I had Andre Berto on my show and he's supposed to help Connor out and he's like,

I ain't going up there. And he's good friends with Connor. Connor did rehab together. He's like, no, I'm not going up there, man. He goes, just because, and he had a good point.

He goes, let's say I go up there and help Connor and for whatever reason, he doesn't think he's going to win because let's say he blast up there and help Conor, and for whatever reason, he doesn't think he's going to win. He goes, let's say he blasts Floyd Mayweather in the face. I'm going to get so much hate from the boxing world.

It's a fraternity, man. And the way he did Pauly, we can't do it, man. He goes, I wish him the best, but I'm not going to help him. Well, I also think that if he's peaking and he's in full fight shape and they're making you fight 12 rounds, when you're in the gym and you're sparring 12 rounds, isn't that unusual that you get one guy to box 12 rounds with you? Oh, no, no, no. It was designed for Paulie to get beat up.

Yeah. I feel like Paulie's a team player. I don't know if you ever met Paulie. He loves you. But if you ever met Paulie, I feel like he's such a good guy. He didn't say anything. Listen, if you brought me in to do anything, I've had guys offer that wanted me to help them with camps.

I turn it down, and you're like, hey, hey we need to go five fives that ain't happening right i'll give you one round two rounds but you for your for the best condition usually do a shark tank yeah there's joe bringing fresh guys for different looks and push you harder so this is just a showcase of connor's abilities at paulie's expense yep i like paulie as a commentator i think he's one of the best in the world he's's really, really good. He offers real legitimate insight. He's really, really good. Do you think that he got rocked and doesn't remember how this went? Did you think that he maybe did think that he got pushed down?

No. Again, I think it's a combination of both. I think Pauly had won some. And he even says, he goes, I won some rounds. Conor won some rounds. I like to see it all, right? Me too. And the UFC said they're going to release it after fight which is that that's gonna be the real test

It's gonna be real test to what cuz Dana said it was a one-sided beatdown Yeah, it was like he has asked for 12 rounds, which I don't believe that what if it's true Look you you gotta go with what Pauly did say happened and then what you see happened I think it's combination of both. I really do. I i think again i think it's people were like yeah you know everyone's on this connor wagon especially in the ufc dana that's his golden boy right and i think we knew connor could box but then when you see him doing against paul you're like oh shit and so even i bet when we watch the tape we're like oh damn connor did pretty well i don't think you beat the shit out of paulie for 12 rounds i think towards the end he probably like you see that? That happened. That happened.

Well, obviously, listen, this has obviously been very valuable. If there were more moments like this, don't you think they would leak those too? Correct. They'd be everywhere. I mean, they're saying they don't want him to see what Conor's working on. Okay, just show us a montage of punches that landed. Just give me one of those Mike Tyson 60-second highlights. Just show me a few.

Ba-da-bam. Bap. Da-da. Ba-ba-ba-bap. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to show all of its patterns. But how well did this hype?

This is priceless, man. Huge. Giant. And now Pauly, you have this huge soap opera unboxing going on right now. Pauly's a main character now. Pauly might have to fight Conor. If Floyd, even if Floyd and Conor, if Floyd beats Conor. And then Pauly can say,

look, I want my shot at him. You talked a lot of shit, and I didn't get in shape. If you're Conor, that's the play. But it's only the play if Conor has a good showing. Even if he loses the decision, as long as he has a good showing, then you do McGregor promotions

against Pauly Malignaggi, and I'm buying that shit. Fuck fighting Khabib, Tony Ferguson, So he's a good showing right then you do McGregor promotions against Paulie Malinowski Yeah, I'm buying that shit the only way fuck fighting Khabib Tony Ferguson all that Elbow jiu-jitsu shit nah, we're gonna put on these eight ounces go 12 rounds and make some money some serious money That's a lot of people think he'll never fight MMA again. I mean he's gonna make a hundred million dollars from this fight Yeah, probably more that's sponsors, yeah. That's a lot of money. That's Scrooge McDuck, Rich. We going sizzler. He's not even 30. We going sizzler.

He has a son. He's a smart guy. I think the play would and I know a lot of UFC people are like, that's because you're never a fighter, Shop. Now I get that. Give any UFC fighter $100 million. They're both throwing up deuces going, fucking see ya. Yeah.

This is way too hard of a life. 100 mil, sleeping sat in sheets, and I can go fight Pauly for another whatever, 50 mil probably of my own money. Ooh. Or I'll go fight Nate Diaz in a trilogy. You know what I'm saying? 90% or more, Conor McGregor versus Floyd Mayweather. Moneyman says Notorious will lose 90% of his 75 million dollar payday

If he's disqualified yeah, yeah, I know that yeah, oh, yeah, that's that's if he does an MMA move on him He won't that's that all the time. Can you throw a Superman punch spin punch Mike get get on my face They're absolutely not you can't it's too bad. You can't throw spinning backfist though. Whoa Some got some gentleman rules for for God's sakes. Could you imagine, though, if Floyd said you could throw elbows? I'm surprised he has it. Eight-ounce gloves. We'll do whatever you want to do.

Let's do this. Let's do this. Could you imagine? Oh, yeah. And you get elbows, and you can throw one kick around. And the guy can clinch and throw elbows from the clinch. Do you ever see the sequence where Jordan Meehan knocked out Cyborg in Strike Force? Oh, my God.

It's nasty. It's one of the nastiest sequences of standing elbows. Horrible. It was like a fucking seminar on how to land a standing elbow. The most vicious elbow of all time. Cyborg's taking some shots to the dome. Dude. That knee he got from Michael Venn and Page.

The knee caved in his head. Paige killed a guy. He did? God damn near killed him. I mean, he had to have all constructive. Oh. No, just a phrase. Sorry, man.

He basically had to put mesh wiring all over his face. Now he's a superhero now. Yeah, and he said he was going to fight again, and then he changed his mind. Yeah, let's not do that, though, huh? I mean, who knows how his dome works right now? I mean, after you get hit like that and your skull caves in. Poor to very poor. Who knows?

Yeah. Everyone's different. Everyone changes different. Here it is right here. Look at this. He hits him with a liver shot, a left-right. It doesn't happen until they get to the cage. There it is.

Boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I mean, look at that. I mean, come on, man. He just hit him with like 13 fucking straight elbows to the head. Did you think they stopped D.C. Jones early? No. I mean, late?

Yes, yes. Right? Yes. Come on, brother. I think you're giving the guy the best chance he can. You're John McCarthy. You know how tough he is. John's the best in the world, too.

He's right there. I hate criticizing him, but I thought it was two punches too late. Yeah. Two or three. Also, like the delayed effect of that head kick. Like you got head kicked, then you see his legs buckle and he's wobbling around. And then when he goes down up against the cage, I mean, it wasn't like a real significant thing that happened. He's like, his legs weren't working right. No, it's game over.

The game's over there. He was already hurt bad. Yes. And then John jumps on top of him and is just wailing on him. He could have stopped at one or two punches earlier. But, you know, in his eyes, what if DC recovers? What if he rolls over, gets to guard? What if he holds on to John? My belief is live to fight another day. I agree with you, too.

I totally agree with you, but I'm just looking at it from John's point of view. I get it, and I don't even like criticizing John. It's just like, man, I thought that was too late. A lot of people thought that was too late. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough to watch with DC. My thing with DC, and you talk about him coming back, he's, what is he, 39? 38? I think so. 39.

He has a great job with the UFC as far as UFC tonight, right? He's kind of becoming the guy UFC tonight. He's doing commentating with you. He's traveling UFC Tonight, right? He's kind of becoming the guy UFC Tonight. He's doing commentating with you. He's traveling all around. No, he's great at commentary. Does he ever beat John? I don't think so.

So what are you going to do? Fight Gustafson again? Ostemeyer? I don't know what his pay is, but at some point, health has to take into account with this. Yeah, the Gustafson fight was a grueling five-round fight. Remember, that was a very, very tough fight. That was a great fight. Very good fight. Gustafson's was a grueling five-round fight. You know, remember, that was a very, very tough fight. That was a great fight. Very good fight. Gustafson's been this fucking close, man.

I think Gustafson's better now than ever before, though. Me too. That's why I want to see him and John. Against Glover, I was like, Jesus Christ. He looked amazing. And the combinations he was landing. Amazing. That whip-like uppercut from the outside.

See, the thing about him is he's the only guy that can match john for distance and reach size yeah yeah i mean no one else is like him not even close and gustafson is also more mobile than john like he's john is like very creative mixes things up more but gustafson is more like bouncing around better footwork and he's better footwork for sure yeah he's very agile and he's also the first guy to ever land a takedown on John. Yes. And I think he's better. I think he's better now than he was then.

Me too. That'd be a great fight. Fuck yeah, it would be. You know, they were asking John, how about John was on Good Morning America getting interviewed by Michael Strahan. Good Lord, do things change. Wow. Yeah, right?

So he's on Good Morning America, and they asked him about what's next, and he talked about, you know, he'd like to fight Brock, like that's always been kind of his thing, and Conor kind of set that with these super fights, but, you know, Brock can't fight until, I think, whatever, he has 18 months or some shit, I'm sure he'll slip in the back door or some shit, like, whoops, what's this? Juice to the gills. I'd still

watch it. So they talked about Gus Finn, they go, what about Mass Square Garden? And he goes, not happening because they want to tax me another 10% of a fight in New York. So he's like, I won't fight in Mass Square Garden. Wow. I know. I feel like UFC be like, fuck your 10% here.

Just fight in Mass Square Garden. Let's figure this out. Take a little extra piece there. Here, Mighty Mouse, give us some of your purse. Yeah. Hey, Mighty Mouse. No, give me that. What if John put a no steroid test clause? Go ahead, Brock.

Go take your shit. Brock, you do your shit. I'm going to do my cocaína. And I'm going to be up all night long. No drug test clause. That's what I'm talking about. Doing like Dubai or some shit. But if he just says to him,

look, I don't give a fuck what you do. I'm going to beat your ass. And then Brock's got to go, oh my God. Brock's like, full pain? Shit. Brock gets up to 290, cuts down to 265. I don't know if John can fuck with that. That's a scary dude.

But Kane fucked that Brock up. Yeah, Kane kind of did work on him. But he did have that stomach virus. Yeah, the stomach issue. Diverticulitis, right? Ovarian muscle fucked him up when he was pained, Brock. Well, that was a crazy fight for him to take after recovering from surgery

where he got 12 inches of his colon removed. And we're talking Uber-eem. Yeah, that was Uber-eem to the max. Kicked him in the gut like a straight-up murderer. When he was 265? Kicked him in the gut. Oh, he just had surgery there? Hicked it!

That Overeem. See, he's one of the best arguments for no testing. He's still kind of killing it with the no testing, too. He's great, but it's a different Overeem. Like this Overeem, the heavyweight Grand Prix, K-1 heavyweight Grand Prix Overeem, there's never been a fighter like that before. Look at the size of him. You're never going to see that again ever in the UFC.

Look at those physiques. He was so jacked. They look like giant Phil Heath. Like, you're never going to see these two again. It's not a kick like that. Yeah, and he's just all over him. Brock can't take him down. He's got some of the best knees in the business, man. Super good technique.

It's just, I miss this Overeem where he was just dominating people with power. See, the Overeem now that – good God. That fucking Instagram kick to the gut. The Overeem now that is steroid free, like he does that move where he runs away. Yeah. Steroid Overeem never ran. What the fuck is that? You know what I'm saying?

When he was on steroid, good luck getting him to step an inch back. Now he's clean. That motherfucker's sprinting. Remember when he fought Todd Duffy in Dream? Did you ever see that fight? I trained Todd for that fight and I was supposed to corner him. Todd Duffy was super promising before that fight. Todd took that on short and I was supposed to corner him. Todd Duffy was super promising before that fight.

Well, Todd took that on short notice. Don't do it. I would be like, don't do it, son. He's like, bro, got to fight who? Over him, dream. Don't do that. Right on. Listen, you have a lot of talent.

You could be huge. This is not the way to get huge. I feel like this is a bad idea. To get obliterated in Japan with short notice. Japan, what is it about calling people like a week before the fight going, what are you up to Saturday? It's just all advantages for the home team, man. And wasn't this post-UFC Duffy?

Because he had that UFC fight where he won like, it was one of the fastest fights ever won by knockout. Tim Hague. Knocked him out with a jab. Eight seconds. Rest in peace, Tim Hague. Yeah, rest in peace, Tim Hague. That UFC fight where he won like it was one of the fastest fights ever one my knockout and not to my jab Yeah seconds rest in peace Tim Hague. Yeah rest in peace to a terrible terrible story Duffy's jitter jack, too He was super jacked so talented. Oh really really talented So he goes in there and he fights over him at his most over him ever Jack yeah Wolverine ever. Look at him. Look at how confident he is. Unjacked!

Yeah! It's like a death sentence, isn't it? Yeah, he was a monster back then. And then when you think about him bordering on both sports, right? He's like K-1 Grand Prix champion, still fighting MMA. It's all in the same time period. And his striking is just off the charts because of it. And you can't take him down.

Yeah. Duffy just went after him. Can't take him down. Shoes on and everything. Boom, he gets clipped. That's the move for Duffy, though. Boom. Yeah, it is a move.

Boom. The body shot is what gets Duffy here, though. But you're right here, but I'm not backing up, too. Look. Just boom. So much power. Forward, right hand, left hand. Boom.

That's it. There's no running from Uber Eats. He wasn't running. No, that's not even in his thought process. Now, you throw a jab and I'm going to fucking... Yeah. Slides out the way. Well, he's also older and he's taking more punishment, too.

You got to think the knockouts that he's had just in the UFC. Stipe knocked him unconscious. Travis Brown knocked him unconscious. That was a while ago, yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's been, how many people knocked him out? He has more knockout losses than anyone in the UFC. Yeah. Rothwell knocked him out.

Rothwell, Stipe, he beat JDS, didn't he? Yes, he did. He knocked him out. He's had a couple issues. Yeah. Try to think of other fights these had I'll tell you what I'd love to see over him versus your boy Francis You know oh my god. I would love to Francis has JDS coming up, but oh that's right Bigfoot Silva knocked him out too. Oh that Bigfoot silver was rough. That was a rough one It was real rough because he was standing up and Bigfoot teed off on him. Just ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

But then look at him. He mercs dudes. Struve, Nelson, JDS, Orlovsky loses Stipe for the title. The Struve fight was brutal. No, that Mark Hunt fight was rough. Yeah, ooh, that was very rough. He flatlined Mark Hunt. Very rough.

Mark Hunt's fighting again. Yeah. He's fighting that Russian dude who's ranked like 10 or something. Yeah. Yeah, he's fighting. Isn't that, is that in Australia or something. Yeah. Yeah, he's fighting, isn't that, is that in Australia? Yeah. Yeah.

Australia or New Zealand. I'm surprised, yeah, he's still doing the damn thing. So good move, man. You have a fucking Mark Hunt fight in New Zealand? He's a huge draw out there. Oh my God. Gigantic. Sydney.

I love Sydney. Tibor is a good fighter, man. Mark's team, Tibor has like got sneaky left high kick. Dude, these Russians and that whole area, these motherfuckers, they're taking over boxing. They're slowly creeping into MMA. How about Khabib? I don't know.

What's going on with him? Well, you got Tony Firx and Kevin Lee now fighting for the interim title. They just don't think Khabib can make the weight? I don't know what's going on. They asked him to fight, right? And he was like, no, I need more time. It's just the boat's passing him by.

You need more time. He must be injured. Look, Tiramisu, I need more time. It's just the boat's passing him by. You need more time. He must be injured. Look, tiramisu, I don't know. Tiramisu. And I like Khabib. He's such a talent, but it's so frustrating. I fucking love some tiramisu, bro. I get it, Khabib.

You know, it's like when you don't, you know you shouldn't be eating this, but you're like, fuck it. Let's get dessert. Dude, if I go, what do you have dessert? And they go, well, we have world famous tiramisu. Bring that. Then you got some coffee with it? Double espresso, please.

Game over, son. I got you, Khabib. Come on. I get it. I get it. They don't have that. But here's the thing. My man Cam Haynes runs these ultra marathons every year.

Last year, he ran the Bigfoot 200. It's 205, 205 miles. And this year, he's running this Moab one, it's 234 miles. He cuts down from 180 pounds, which is what he weighs normally. Lean, too. He's down to 160 now. Jesus Christ. You know how he does it?

He works out and burns off more calories than he eats. That's it. And he feels good doing it? Yeah, he'll burn off 3,000 calories, eat 2,000. It's a little different, though. If he can do it, if he can do that, then Khabib can do that, too. They can all do that. All you have to do is just work hard, do a lot of fucking cardio, put a lot of hours

in training, and eat less than you're eating. Here's the thing, though. You'll shrink. You'll shrink. Yeah, it's science. But here's the thing. You can hire someone to do that, to make sure you make that weight. Well, he's also a very strict Muslim, and so he celebrates Ramadan, which makes it a

real issue for guys to fight. Although, someone just did that in the ufc um ramadan yeah and got through it uh went through ramadan his nickname is remember the name balal muhammad balal muhammad went through ramadan while he was training he just did it very smart and he scheduled his training for after his meal. What a badass. Yeah. And he fought great. With Khabib, though, it's like at 55, it's kind of a clusterfuck there, and he's just getting left in the dust.

I think it's his body. I think he has real issues with his body from losing extreme amounts of weight. Those boys are AK, man. And listen, I love AK, and they've done I think Crazy Bob Cook belongs in the UFC Hall of Fame. MMA Hall of Fame. He's a straight-up genius.

Yeah, him and Javier. Yeah, but those boys, I don't know what's going on there with Kane. You know, he got the, you know. Well, you know what it is? Luke's been out for a while. Here's what I think it is. You got at the top level of that, you have two of the best, first of all, arguably the best heavyweight ever in Kane, and then you got one of the best light heavyweights ever in Daniel,

and they're going to war all the time. Toss Luke Rockhold in there. And Luke Rockhold's in the mix, too. And they also, you only have a certain amount of years of being able to do that. So then you see Kane's body breaking down. I mean, you can't just attribute that only to his training there because there's some questionable weightlifting videos of him online. The deadlift?

Yeah, well, it's not even a deadlift, man. It's like he's doing a kettlebell swing with like shit form and they're doing high reps of all kinds of weird shit like i saw a lot like steve maxwell saw it he was furious yeah but the thing is a lot of mma guys if they don't come from uh like a football background most of them you're gonna see lift like that to be honest well, the problem was he had a trainer. And people were feeling like the trainer was doing a shit job. Yeah, 100%. And I'm not blaming injuries and delays and fights on AK. But I think, and it's not up to them. I think, again, like you were saying, you have the toughest guys in the world competing every day.

You have Khabib. You have all these guys. And things are going to happen. I think there's two different schools of thought. And I don't know who's right. There's a school of thought where you just fucking go in there and you go to war all the time, and the cream rises to the top, and you get hardened by the combat, and you come out of it the best fighter in the world.

1997. You know what? It was Kane for a while, right, until all these injuries started piling up. But I think there's another way of looking at it. Well, there's two different other ways of looking at it there's the when you get to a connor situation then you get a super camp that's designed around you and then you get these people who are working with you on various aspects of your game your sparring partners are planned accordingly there's a bunch of people that you work with that

you know are their goal is to get you better for this fight. And I would say GSP is the one who really started that. Yeah, for sure. For us, a hobby. Yes. Yeah. And I think these guys that are doing this today, it's like, how do you do it? Do you do it the old school way, which has always been proven? You can make some tough motherfuckers that way.

Or do you do it the ATT way, you have this gigantic program where you have all world-class coaches and athletes and you're putting together all these people and you just have a giant super team? Look at their roster, too. But again, not that Javier didn't have a competition background, but the reason why ATT is so good and they're killing it with Joanna, Jenjenchek, with fucking Amanda Nunes, all their big athletes. Mike Brown, right? He's been there. He's done it. Yeah, Brown's awesome.

Yeah. Yeah. To me, you know, definitely top three in the game right now. And Laborio. Laborio, too. But Mike Brown, really, he's the one who's focused on Joanna and Amanda Nunes. And he's focusing, because he's been there. He's done those meathead days, and he's going, we need to focus more on this.

So when you have someone, even Team Alpha Male, they don't have a ton of injuries, really. You know, granted, Cody Garbrandt's having his things. But Uriah Faber, he's been through it. So you need these younger guys who have been through it who are going to take control. Who are saying, listen, we can't be Vanderlei Silva, man. This isn't a top team. This ain't working. In football, same way.

Like Jim Harbaugh at Michigan, they don't hit. He goes, if you don't know how to hit at this level, you're not going to make it right they only hit on game days when it counts right so you see this kind of trend happening with people who've been through it before like that's not the way cowboy hardly ever spars anymore yeah he does mostly drills mitt work you know mitraone too like you see this kind of guy's like man i can't begin beat up in training anymore it It doesn't make sense. Goddamn, especially at heavyweight. You know, big guys the size of Mitch Rion giving each other brain damage. Bad idea.

Terrible. Bad idea. You can only do it so many times. And I think when you see a guy like Conor with all the different experimenting that he does, with, like, weird movement stuff, so that Ido Portal guy. Yeah, long bike rides and shit. Even the weird shit that he does, like when you see him switching stances in the ring,

he's switching stances like a Taekwondo guy. Yeah. Like he's in a Taekwondo tournament. All that weird shit, if he can do shit like that to Floyd, all that stuff that he's never seen before, sideways stance, moving more like a karate fighter. He's going to come out more karate than people are expecting. I asked Pauly, I said, Pauly has his issues with him. I'm like, yeah fighter he's gonna come out more karate than people are expecting i asked paulie you know i said you know paulie has his issues with him like yeah that's terrible but

how was you know how was his was it as awkward as i'm predicting because yeah you know if connor goes goes in and gets starched my time i'm out showtime that's my time have a good night you know what i'm saying like i look like an asshole but he was saying he was like no man he it's even more awkward than i than i thought like it's it's tough to deal with yeah he said one time he had his palm up like this yeah like like leoto machida shit yeah oh he's definitely gonna do that yeah paul he's like i have no idea who that is i'm like look him up he doesn't know who leoto machida is how dare how dare you how dare you he knows jiu-jitsu that was like my worst prediction of all time welcome to the machida era probably my worst prediction no there was a machida

era no not like that like he lost right away after that we murked shogun right murked rashad well he didn't murk shogun shogun knocked him out oh that's right shogun lost him yeah but they had that uh back and forth right but he he fucked up rashad he fucked up rashad. He fucked up Rashad. To win the title. To win the title. But then who beat him right after that? And then John crushed him. And then once John crushed him. John crushed his dreams. Yeah. And then he drops down to 85.

Looked great against Munoz. There was a Leo Machida. When you say the era. Yeah. There was a run there. He changed the game. He definitely changed a lot. But I thought he was going to go on a crazy run, man.

So this is what we got there. Jon Jones. Oh, he lost to Rampage. But again, he got fucked in that one. Go back a little bit more. Go back a little bit more. So where does the Rashad fight? Okay, so he fought Rashad, and then he fought, that's what it is.

He fought Shogun next, but he should have lost that fight, and he won. But still, he lost in two years. And then Shogun knocked him out in should have lost that fight, and he won. But still, he lost in two years. And then Shogun knocked him out in the rematch. He lost in two years. So remember, he beat Tito Ortiz, and that's real Tito Ortiz. Then he murked Thiago Silva. At the time, Thiago Silva was a straight savage. And then he destroys Rashad.

Then he ekes by Shogun. Remember when he jump and front kicked Randy in the face? And knocked out Randy's tooth? Yeah. That was crazy. Yeah, then it was a little rough from there. And then he fought John. Beat Ryan Bader with that crazy knockout.

That was nuts. Ryan Bader ran into that crazy straight left hand. Just rushed him. Yeah. That was here in LA. Then the Munoz fight. I remember that was in like London or some shit. Dude, I remember Munoz found, I was training with Munoz.

He found out through social media he was fighting Machida. Whoa. It was like, oh fuck. That was in London or some shit. Dude, I remember Munoz found out. I was training with Munoz. He found out through social media he was fighting Machida. It was like, oh, fuck. That was in England. Whoa. Then he got smashed by Weidman. Yeah, he did. Then he murked C.B. Dalloway. The Luke Rockhold one was the worst.

And Yoel was really bad, too. That was rough. And then he tested positive for something, right? Yeah, and then I don't know exactly what he's doing now. Yeah, man. You get a certain amount of knockouts against guys like rockhold and especially the rockhold one was rough i think how long he's been doing it though yeah he's been doing karate since he was fucking three months old oh he's just been doing it for a long ass time man yeah it's interesting

like these guys like vitor and him where their their their technique is still there their mind is still there but their body just can't keep up again look at Rashad look at Rashad that's to me when I watch his fight in Mexico City he's fighting on the undercard against Sam Alvey I'm like oh my god man and I love Rashad and the guy I've been training with forever and to see him and I don't think I don't know if it's a matter of physical, but mentally you can tell he's just not there. Not that he's punchy, but he just doesn't want to do anymore. He's not pulling the trigger.

He's been knocked out before. I was the same way. Once I got knocked out, things change. You go, oh, okay, I'm not going to fight like that anymore. That kind of caution the wind, let's go, let's sit in the pocket and bang. No, no, no, no, no. I've learned from that. And then Rashad just couldn't pull the trigger. I think he's swaying towards being done.

Well, how old is Rashad now? Shit, how old is Rashad? 39? Yeah, he's up there. Yeah. He's had a great run. He's definitely had a great run, but he obviously enjoys doing it, or he wouldn't be still doing it, or he needs the money.

Yeah, I don't know. He's one or the other. 37? Yeah. But the other thing with Rashad is the game's advanced so much further than wrestler with good boxing. Yeah. You can't fuck with that anymore.

Right. At light heavyweight, middleweight, welterweight, you go down, what? You only have two tools? You're screwed, man. Yeah. A guy like Yair Rodriguez, all these young kids go, you can only wrestle in box? Oh, my God, I'm going to eat him alive. But he can kick.

I mean, remember he knocked out Sean Salmon with that high kick? Goddamn, that was old school. And Sean Salmon looked like every UPS driver we've ever had. Yeah, but I would think that he would get better at that. And it just never became a big part of his game. His game was never full-on Muay Thai-oriented. No. It's like the Chuck Liddell thing, you know, where spraw just never became like a big part of his game. His game was never like full on Muay Thai oriented. No. It's like the Chuck Liddell thing, you know, where sprawl and brawl.

Yeah. I'm going to fuck you up with my hands. What's crazy is he trains with Tyrone Spong. I know. I mean, Tyrone Spong is a fucking demon when it comes to stand up, man. Dude, he mercs this dude so bad. And this was at light heavyweight, which is interesting because all along a lot of people thought he should be at 185. Dude, he won the ultimate fight at heavyweight.

I know. How crazy is that? Fought Brad Imes. Yes. Giant ass dude in the finals. Yeah. Rashad's just tough, man. And he's a dude who played football too, right?

Yeah, high school, but then he wrestled at Michigan State. And his roommate was Greg Maynard. Crazy, man. And then the other roommate is a big agent at CA, which is hilarious. All of them are killing it. You know, you remember his knockout of Chuck Liddell. That was probably like the biggest highlight ever. Oh, ever.

And the UFC really wouldn't play it because Chuck Liddell was like the main man. Remember for a while there, they wouldn't play the Chuck or Ronda knockouts? Now you turn that bitch on and Fox, this is the loop. Well, once WME became the owners, they're like, listen. It's like, we don't play that game. We're here to sell fights. Correct. I know he's your boy.

Oh! There it is right there. One shot. That was a crazy high kick. Crazy high kick. I think they showed the Chuck Liddell knockout. They just didn't highlight it over and over and over again. Not for a long time.

They went and showed Chuck or Ronda. That Chuck one was so, like, I remember the sound of that right-hand landing. It just, blap. It was an uppercut. Oh, no. Chuck was going to throw an uppercut, his famous uppercut, and then just that. And Rashad stepped over with an overhand right on the fucking button like a gunshot. I remember Rashad just turned the crowd like his heart.

He's like. Yeah, it is. Chuck was just such a fucking executioner. Boom. You know, Chuck, there's rumors Chuck wanted to fight again. He's in Thailand training and shit. Wow. Boom. Great timing by Rash shit. Wow. Boom.

Great timing by Rashad. Perfect. Look at the fucking impact of that right hand. That is crazy. My God. They're talking about Chuck and Tito again in Bellator. They're talking about Chael and Tito. They're talking about Chael and Tito first?

Chael and Tito are talking shit to each other. Didn't they first? Yeah, Chael and Tito are talking shit to each other. Didn't they just fight? They just fought. Tito just got his neck reconstructed. He has a tube in his neck, but then Chael started talking shit to him. No, he got fake discs. Oh, my God. He got discs replaced.

Go to Tito's Instagram page. He talked about it. And then he said, Chael, I'm kicking your ass. He was like so pro-wrestling. Hey, Tito, Chael, I love both of you. There ain't nobody trying to watch that shit. Listen, Bellator is paying. No one's watching that.

I get it. We just saw it. Chael, you just got choked out. Tito can still sell. Yeah, he's still a draw. You know what? If he could talk to Chael and talk some shit about him

and people want to see him get peed up again. Look at that. There's actually a video, though. If you play the video, Jamie, it's somewhere on his Instagram. Oh, look at that. It went through his neck.

Go to his whole thing, and I'll show you where it is. There it is. That's it. Listen, let's play some volume on this. All right, surgery's done. They did three level disc replacements. So you want to fight, huh? Disc replacement.

On my cervical, which is the neck area. All right, let me call back. I'm good. All right. Dr me call Bob, though. But I'm good. All right. Talked to William Smith. Did an amazing job. Valerie, thank you so much. Bellator, thank you.

All my friends, family, thank you for support. Everybody reached out to me. I appreciate the support. I'm alive. I'm fixed. Now it's time to get ready to chill. I'm kicking your ass. God, wait a minute.

Damn it. Okay, just heal that. No, you two. But how crazy is that? A guy coming out of neck reconstruction. He got three discs replaced. Like, do you know in the UFC, if you have more than two discs replaced you they don't think they're letting you fight right now uh makes sense they were talking about um uh rick story

rick story has some disc replacements his neck yeah you know like if you get a certain amount like you got one your lower back one your neck they're like oh son we're not sure if we want to fuck with this liability well who knows how good the guy did the neck thing like who did your thing like it's almost like like who's building your car we'll send them to your send them to your guy then yeah ufc like send me the one guy who we can trust yeah how we shut down this career how many dudes are doing this neck reconstruction thing everyone especially if you're looking for a deal look at eddie bravo's got his back done.

You know, Eddie's still having problems with it, though. It's not 100%. A lot of people have problems with it. Yeah. I mean, the back's tricky, man. But one of his students, Victor, had his done. He's a big dude. He's real big. He's like a heavyweight dude.

And for him, it's fine. Like, he was lifting weights, like, really quickly. And got back to rolling within a few months. I think it just depends, man. But with Tito, he's had so much abuse as far as wrestling and fighting. Oh, yeah, dude. He's got fusions, too. He's got all sorts of shit going on.

Dude, talk about a straight-up fighter. Neck brace, talking, chill, get your ass ready. We're looking at a year from now, bro. How long does it take to recover from those surgeries? I wonder because what Eddie was saying was that, you know, like he might have pushed it too quick and like re-injured it a little bit. I remember when Eddie came in here, didn't he come in here like the next day we're doing Fikey painting? He's like drinking high off his ass and we're talking about it. He's like, I'm not going to rush into it. Like I'm not doing much.

But if you're on the mats and, you know. The problem is rolling is too fun. Yeah. You can't roll if you're on the mats and you know the problem is rolling it's too fun yeah you can't roll if you're injured you know i think the the only thing you should do ever if you're injured is drill and just use it as a time to drill because you can get really good you get really good by drilling but as soon as you're like if you're dealing with something that's recovering like a surgery you if you like have to explode and exert weird energy in weird ways, you never know. You don't want to get tapped. You don't want your guard to get passed.

So you'll just fucking, you're in the middle of it. And when you do that, man, pop. Messes everything up. You feel the back where you got surgery twinge again. You're like, oh. Game over. Fucked all that work up. I'll tell you what's crazy, speaking of injuries, is when I saw Paddy Hooligan in Dublin,

and he's an outgoing, smart dude, speaks well. We're talking. I'm like, dude, so when's the next fight? And this whole team was just like, goddammit, Job. I'm like, what? And I didn't hear anything. But he has a rare blood disorder. Like, less than 1% of the world have it.

And it's really not that dangerous. But if something were to happen, it's, like, super dangerous. So the UFC's like, it's too much of a but if it did if something were to happen it's like super dangerous so the ufc is like it's too much of a risk we can't we can't clear to fight so he's done whoa so how does the blood disorder work i'm not sure you got me i have to look it up jamie he has some super rare blood disorder super super rare where i you have to look it up for i don't want to concern like if he needs a transfusion or something yeah something like that with UFC he's just too high of a risk so he's done but he was opening a gym uh at SBG with Connor at their gym and then he decided to do his own like

up the street wow he's doing that but crazy story man crazy so I had no idea I felt I felt bad for him but good spirits man good spirits's going to start doing podcasting. He's going to start doing some other stuff. Well, that's cool. You know, here it is. He was born with a factor missing in his blood called factor 13. I never disclosed it until now. It came to the UFC's attention from a third party.

I can no longer pass the medical requirements to compete. Only one in five million people are diagnosed. I knew that it was rare. Organizations wouldn't understand or take a chance at me. As I found out now, I never explained in full to John or my team the actual risks because I didn't think there was excess risks. So if he doesn't think there is an excess risk, it's a disorder that is only dangerous for me and not my opponents i really did see mma as a way to have a real shot at life for myself my family and it turns out i was right wow i have mixed emotions this is sad can you look up the disorder how sad is it but you talk about a guy who his spirits are super up like

he was joking about he's just like what the fuck you know he's a he's a son and his girl was there and i was just like oh i felt so bad for him but he was like don't whoa i get this i'm doing my thing here at spg i got my own gym you know like things are good man i'm starting to podcast hey he's gonna be good at it too man if you can get that good at fighting you can get that good at anything you just have to think about it the right way here it is here it is it's a rare Oh, clotting. Oh, yeah. A bleeding disorder characterized by a deficiency of clotting factor 13. Clotting factors are specialized

proteins that are essential for the blood to clot properly. Oh, he's like a hemophilia. Uncontrolled bleeding episodes. Fuck all that. Like, what if you get Marvin Eastman in the head? It starts pouring blood and they can't stop it. Yeah. You know,

there's something about foreheads. Like, foreheads just bleed a lot. Especially with the elbows. Oh, yeah. It's the peak of the elbow. Like, think about how much more

foreheads bleed than like a knee. Oh, yeah. But, you know, I'm saying elbows, like, fucking, if we get kneed,

it's always in the face. Your shit's all fucked up. Yeah. But with Patty, that's a bummer, man. One in five million. Crazy. What are the odds? I know, man. Super heartbreaking. eat it's always in the face your shit's all fucked up yeah but with patty that's a bummer man one in five million crazy what are the odds i know man super heartbreaking do you know the odds on floyd mayweather and conor mcgregor are only four to one uh five to one right connor i saw it plus

500 maybe it's changed maybe it's changed i mean i just looked at an article with those odd swing i'd like i've been on this hound, this Connor Dick ride hound, changing the game. Complete Connor Dick diver, just changing the odds. You really think he's got a chance? Yeah, I do. He's bigger. I really do. He's a lot bigger, man.

I'll tell you that. He hits like a Mack truck. He's awkward. Floyd, two years off. I'm a little curious why he's doing it. Joe Smith Jr., Bernard Hopkins. Correct. Plus 325. Holy balls!

Whoa! It's down to three. Take a bow. Jesus Christ. Crazy! Paul Mayweather's at minus 450. You want to hear something hilarious? Those odds are smaller than when he fought Canelo. That's crazy. Those odds

are changing because of the fucking video. Well, that and just the amount of people who are betting on Conor. Yeah, I know how bets work, dude. People that are listening, they might not know. You know what, I think people know what the odds are. That's what the odds are. When I explain odds, people are like, what the fuck, man? You don't even understand how you win 100 bucks, most people.

I have to explain it every time we go to the UFC to someone. Yeah, I bet when the odds first came out, I fucked up. I thought I got 26-1. I got it 15-1. Conor win by knockout. It's always so weird when you see the numbers, like plus 450. Like, what? Who comes out?

How crazy is this? Especially when they open with it. You know, if they open with an odd, that's when it gets really crazy. How do they do that? Is it like in the expert opinion? They do it on purpose If they open with an odd, that's when it gets really crazy. How do they do that? Is it like an expert opinion? They do it on purpose because they want betting. So they do it on purpose to get people to go here. So Floyd loves this because Floyd always bets on himself and a shitload of money.

So Floyd's like, yes, keep it going. Did you see footage came out that, not footage, but news leaked, and I think it's all honey dicking, that Zab Judah knocked out Floyd Mayweather in training. What? And Floyd shut down the gym. What? Yeah. Look that shit up, Jamie. Pull that shit up, Jamie. Whoa.

Telling you that Zab Judah yesterday, they said knocked him out. Whoa. I think it's all smoke and mirrors. I think Floyd's just trying to sell this to the max. Well, that would be smart on Floyd's part. He's brilliant. How close is he with Zab Judah that they would organize that? I mean, Zab Judah's like, yeah, I'll take that shine. When's the last How close is he with Zab Judah that they would organize that? I mean, Zab Judah's like, I'll take that shine.

When's the last time you mentioned the name Zab Judah? Very good point. Word from inside the money team, Zab Judah knocked out Floyd Mayweather and Sparring during a wild exchange where both boxers began to brawl. Apparently, Floyd kicked everyone out of the gym afterwards. More to come. Zab was mimicking Conor and just came right after him. Whoa.

This is Mario Vegas Post Mario Vegas Post Can we trust Mario? Mario, talk to me What do you know? I look at him That glamour shot headshot bothers the fuck out of me Doesn't bother me at all

He looks like a very reasonable American He has 14 tweets 100 followers I'm sure he votes conservative You know what? But he's probably a pretty sensible guy That you can have a conversation with. I think he's a troll.

I wouldn't mind having a beer with him. See, I don't believe that. I think there'd be more smoke. I think literally Floyd's just playing this full heel. He might be. I got knocked out. Look, Conor, definitely a week before. Or Zab Judah and him might have gone to war because he does go to war in gyms.

He does. You see him talk shit and go to war in gyms. He does. I mean, you've seen him talk shit and go to war with people in sparring sessions. And Zab Judah ain't young either. Zab Judah, it's true. But Zab Judah can crack. We know that. It's a fact. Yeah, he cracked Floyd a few times when they fought, if you remember that.

Yeah, he can crack. Floyd Mayweather and Zab Judah unleashed chaos in Las Vegas. This is from April. Yeah. Wow. Looks back at the tempered battle between Mayweather

and the current sparring partner, Zab Judah. Yeah, they had a great war, man. Phenomenal fight. And if Zab Judah, I mean, look,

Zab Judah's lightning fast. If he hasn't lost a step and they actually did get into a wild exchange and Floyd got crazy, it is entirely possible that Zab Judah

hasn't lost a step. I mean, Zab Judah? I guarantee he has. Yeah, probably. Probably a guarantee has yeah Probably probably I mean as far as like his speed and power. I bet it's still there I bet is like timing but I'm what I'm trying to set you right his reaction to losing a step is probably not the best Way to describe it, but he still got his skills He still got some serious power for he knows how to drop bombs And if he drops a bomb on Floyd if they really did have some crazy exchange It's a hundred percent possible that you could imagine correct a guy like Zab Judah at least knocking down Floyd.

I'll tell you this. If he did get knocked out a week before the fight, and you're fighting Conor next Saturday, we're going Sizzler. I might just fucking— No, bueno. I'm the new president of Showtime, everybody. I like this. Same story kind of happened before the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.

Well, maybe it happened. It said Florida. Zab Judah denies flooring Mayweather fight. Well, maybe it happened. It said floor them. Zab Judah denies flooring Mayweather during sparring as a preparation. Maybe Zab Judah just whoops his ass in there. Like a Uri Faber style. He's probably so comfortable with being there with Floyd. He's boxed Floyd professionally as a fighter and as his training partner. You get each other's patterns.

You understand each other's patterns. And who knows also You know like who knows how seriously Floyd's taking this that's the only that's the money for sure That's the other thing is like rumors coming out like again. These are all rooms. Have you seen the condition rumors me, too? I love the drama. I get so excited me too. I'm like yes. Yes. What else happened keep it coming come on Have you seen the picture of Floyd at 40? Keep it coming. Come on.

Have you seen the picture of Floyd at 40? He looks good. Good. That motherfucker looks like he's on that Brock Lesnar diet. He looks shredded. Yeah, he looks great. Under 2.5. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Interesting. That's the only way McGregor's going to win, I think. If it's under the 2.5? No, not under 2.5, but by stoppage. Yeah, me too. I can't imagine him out boxing. No, that ain't happening.

You're living in a wrong fucking planet if you think he's going to out box for 12 rounds. Unless he just mauls him. Unless he figures out a way to maul him like he's doing there. Madonna style? Like he's doing there with holding the back of the head and throwing punches. But that's after he's worn Pauly out. I think you're going to see Connor using his footwork, still the distance, trying to still do what got him to the dance. He might.

What if he drops one on Floyd and Floyd goes stiff and face plants? I would love that. I think he's going to land one on Floyd. So I think Connor wins the spectacle but probably loses in a decision. But if there is a stoppage, it's Connor knocking him out. Well, you know,

we were talking today about them going to 8-ounce gloves and how significant that is. Official commission just granted it today. First of all, it shows you can just pull those commissioners aside and go, what's these rules? What do you mean drug testing? Why are we talking about it? What's these rules?

Let's have some fun here, boys. Let's have some fun. I wonder if WME came along. Like when they bought the UFC, they'd be like, what's up with the USADA guy? Do we need him? What's up with the golden snitch? Do we need him? We got him in another six months.

Can't we, listen, let's just direct that guy towards weight cutting. Can you just have him, like, focus on the guys in the undercards? Can we do that? Slowly get out of this USADA thing. For reals. Just slow. Back it up. Back it up. 100%. Back it up. Back it up.

100%. Back it up. 100%. 100%. Oh. Andre Berto said when he fought Floyd, he's never been tested more in his life. He was like four times a week they would knock on my door. Yeah, it's Floyd.

Like nonstop. Floyd's got people dressed up like agents. That's what he said. He goes, are you testing Floyd like this? They go, that's none of your concern. Oh, it is though. He goes, it's the promoter's obligation. He goes, the promoter's Floyd Mayweather. He goes, you you testing Floyd like this? They go, that's none of your concern. Oh, it is, though. He goes, it's the promoter's obligation. He goes, the promoter's Floyd Mayweather.

He goes, you'll figure it out. He just kept getting tested nonstop. Yeah, he wants more of your blood. He wants to make you tired. Yeah, I'll tell you what, though. I don't know what the drug testing is like on this bad boy, but you don't really like it. Well, the Canelo-Alvarez fight, it was interesting because he made Canelo get down to 150. They fought at 150. Canelo just makes people come to him. You don't know about this fight. It was interesting because he made Canelo get down to 150. You know, they fought at 150.

He always makes people come to him. Like, you have to play by his rules. He's not doing that in this fight, though. That's what's so scary. Yeah. That's why I tipped my hat to Floyd because he went, I'm going to fight at 154. That's perfect for Conor. Yeah.

I would do eight-ounce gloves. What the? For reals? Yeah. Yeah, we'll do that. Oh, I'll take it on short notice, too. This motherfucker's crazy. I just think he thinks he's so good.

He might just not understand. First of all, Conor is, whether or not you're looking at his success inside the Octagon, which has been pretty spectacular, but it's the way he's doing things. He's got this special fucking air about him and this psychotic belief in himself. It's not a fake belief. No. He's not trying to con anybody. He's trying to manifest some sort of miraculous existence.

He's trying to be the guy who literally goes in there and drops and smashes Floyd Mayweather as a UFC fighter and then becomes, with that, the biggest athlete on the planet Earth. Ever. Maybe ever. If you ever beat him, ever. If he flatlines Floyd Mayweather, if Floyd Mayweather steps in and Conor fucking karate stances him and blasts him with a straight left hand and we see Floyd stiffen up and face plant.

North Korea nukes. We're going to turn the ocean green. Shit. It's this. We're all. We're going to manufacture all of the color, that green color that you put in drinks on St. Patrick's Day. Boston tea party, bitch.

We're pouring that shit in the ocean. We're making the ocean green. Just all green. Just huge statues of Connor. You're going to have people that are faking Irish accents. It's sort of like that Rachel Dolezal chick pretending to be black. There's going to be people that are changing, but put an O on the beginning. With shitty tiger tattoos on their chest.

Yeah, they're going to change themselves and become Irish. They're going to be trans. Look at that. That's what the world's going to come to. What is that? When did that happen? Chicago on St. Patrick's Day. They do that?

Yeah. Really? Yeah. Are there fish in there? Holy shit. Are there fish in there? They're chilling everything. They really do that? They do that happen? Chicago on St. Patrick's Day. They do that? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Are there fish in that water? They're chilling everything. They really do that? They do it every year. Oh my god. We're so gross. People are so gross. For St. Patrick's

Day. Let's have some fun and get fucking hammered and make the ocean green. The fish are like, what the fuck? I can't believe they really do this. It's awesome though. Oh my god. It's like a comic book. It's only in Chicago. I can't believe they really do this. I thought you knew that. It's awesome, though. Oh, my God. No, I didn't know.

It's like a comic book. It's only in Chicago. I'm amazed that Boston doesn't take this on. For reals. What? You're fucking telling me they do it in fucking Chicago? Holy shit. I feel like it's a bad idea.

It can be. Well, it's probably some food-based stuff. Meet the family that dives the Chicago River green. Wow. The Hulk family. How weird. Just pure toxic. dyes the Chicago River green. Wow. The Hulk family. How weird. Just pure toxic. Yeah, I wonder how bad it is.

I wonder if there's some environmentalists that are protesting against it. A hundred percent. That can't be great for anything in there. That's just dye. It's natural. Not really. Why don't you Google environmentalist protest green dye in Chicago River? Let's see if there's some environmentalists that think it's a fucking terrible idea.

Nearly 60 pounds of dye. That's it? Top secret formula. Also known as, we call it leprechaun dust. Oh, fuck you. How about you tell us what the fuck the top secret formula is before you jump into the river? And take that sweater off right now with your tits. Whoa, who's got tits?

The dad on the right. Oh, yeah. Set of sweet old old man tits. Look at him. It's like a mock turtleneck. That looks like the kind of guy who kills a burger with his bare hands, though. He looks like the kind of guy that kills millions of fish by dumping green dye in the goddamn river. Look at those fucks.

Motherfuckers drowning mermaids. God fucking Christ. They get their gills all clogged up. Look at those guys. God damn it. Yeah, you're right, though, fuck. They get their gills all clogged up. Look at those guys. God damn it. Yeah, you're right though, man. If Conor were to pull it off, I don't... He's the biggest athlete of all time.

Of all time. He's going to be worldwide in the craziest way possible. You're going to see a Nike shoe like a Jordan, but with this on it. If he actually can land that shit, there's the thing. Nobody's going to ever box Floyd like that from a karate stance. Never. He's never seen it before. And he's been doing a lot of that Taekwondo footwork thing where he switches back and forth, switches stances. A ton.

If he can keep that kind of distance, it's gonna be very hard for Floyd to hit him, too. It's a totally different feel. Different feel. The only thing, I think, worst case scenario, obviously worst case if he gets starched in like 10 seconds, that's not gonna happen. But worst case would be with eight ounce gloves. If Floyd starts landing and beating him up and he gets stopped like seventh or eighth or can't answer the bell because he's taking so much punishment.

Or in eight rounds he gets really tired from moving so much. Then it could be a shit show for us. Yeah, it's a different expenditure of energy for sure. Different animal. When you're switching legs like that and switching stances. But listen, he's doing in training You you don't get to Connors level without realizing what you're signing up for like yeah to me if I were to gas in this Fight there's a serious and then everything we believe in Connors fake which I don't think it's gonna happen

Well the only other explanation be he's not quite efficient enough yet to go 12 rounds of the world champion You know if he really started gas. Like, you know, you're talking about something that he has a part of his training, but it's also kicking, takedown defense, jiu-jitsu, elbows, knees. Some say it's more difficult. Yes. Well, definitely cardio-wise. A lot of people say it's more difficult. Like, in boxing, get your reps.

And, like, in boxing, which is why I think Conor's going to win a majority of those early rounds, and, you know, Floyd, you know, four, five, six rounds before he's really even start sweating, he downloads your patterns and goes to work. Andre Berto said that. He comes out and he'll force you to come to him and he's looking around. He's literally downloading everything, but it takes him a while to get going before he gets it and then starts going to work. With Conor, I think in those rounds, he can land something big there, man.

If he does. See, the exciting thing is if he does. That's the exciting thing. That's what's going to make it the biggest pay-per-view of all time. Those white power people are going to go crazy. That Twitter account is a fake account, apparently. Which one? It's not a real newspaper.

And some people have found out that the picture is even like a small business owner from somewhere else. Which, the Zab Judah one? Yeah, yeah. The troll guy. The troll account. I thought so. Oh, okay. So him knocking him out is fake?

That's the only place it's coming from. I told you. Hey, Floyd, do better at trolling people. That guy's a troll. The fake guy? He looks like the average American. Yeah, the glamour shot is his avatar. Or like Iowa. You went to Iowa. You went to a family restaurant. Hi, the glamour shot is his avatar. Or like Iowa.

You went to Iowa. You went to a family restaurant. Hi, welcome. They all look like that. I just Googled Las Vegas Post and nothing comes up. Oh, that son of a bitch. God damn it, Floyd. You got to do better at selling us, man.

Well, it might not even be him. It might just be somebody just going for clicks, you know, having some fun. A lot of people make up stories. That's true. Floyd doesn't come out and say anything. But, you know, like my mom will be like, why have you got knocked out buying it? It works. It does work.

It works. Well, especially after looking at that video. I mean, that's what ramps it up. Looking at the video of Conor landed on Paul. Listen, Dana White, put some more video out. That's all I'm saying. Give us a little taste. Here's the full footage.

Give us a little taste. From what I heard, from what I heard is they thought that footage was going to make it on all access. And Dana was like, yeah, put it on all access of Connor doing what he did to Paul. And they didn't put it in there. So Dana was like, release the hounds. And then released on his end. Oh, so Showtime didn't put it in there. No.

No, it came from Dana. It did not come from Showtime. Okay. Why would Showtime not want to put it in there? So they denied putting it in there? They didn't want to put it in there? I don't think they denied it ever happened. They were just like, we're not putting it in all access. Why

wouldn't you put that in all access? That seems ridiculous. I don't know. Are you trying to sell a fight or nay? Yeah. And then Dana was like, oh, you're not going to do it? Release the hounds, everybody. Really? And that's when it came from his account. Why the fuck would they not play that clip?

I don't know. I guess they love Pauly. And Pauly is an analyst for them, right? Yeah, but still, it is what it is. Yeah, if anything, listen, man, it's sparring. We're talking about practice. It is what it is. Even though it shows a clear loss fights. It shows a clear loss.

In those exchanges, there was a clear loser and a clear winner. It doesn't mean the entire sparring session was. And we won't know that until after the fight. And most knowledgeable

fighting fans know that. Like, oh, that's a part of it. But shit, Conor can actually hit. Like, shit, he looks pretty good. He looks real good. And even if you're

a boxing fan, you're like, holy shit, that's Paulie Malignaggi. He just got rocked. Shit, maybe I will buy the fight. Yeah. It looks real good. And even if you're a boxing fan, you're like, holy shit, that's Paulie Malignaggi. He just got rocked. Shit, maybe I will buy the fight. Yeah. It's going to be the biggest no matter what.

I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it from fucking D.C. I'm going to be in Washington, D.C. Yeah, you're working that night, right? I'm working that night. So if you hear the crowd, oh my God. Yeah, they asked me to do something for Showtime. But I'll be like, I don't even know what I would do.

Like, what would I be doing? Like, I'd be offering my opinions. Bro, I fly out next Monday. I'm working. I'm on the whole coverage team with Showtime Tuesday through Saturday. I don't know what I'm doing on Saturday. Honestly, dude I really feel like if they were smart like this is This kind of shit like the kind of shit that we do when you and I just sit down and talk Yeah, this is really what they need. You get a bunch of goofy people sitting around with ties on in some circle, and everyone's talking over everybody.

And there's a production meeting, and you say this, and you say this. I agree. Yeah, and there's Mauro, and then there's fucking two or three boxers. Al Bernstein. Yeah, and they're all talking over each other. It's not, in my opinion, it's not the most entertaining way to listen to people break down shit. And this is a fight where you really want to consider all the different possibilities. Like Max Kellerman is always saying, like, Floyd has the advantage.

If they're fighting on the moon, Floyd has the advantage. Bare knuckle, Floyd has the advantage. Like, okay. Are you totally sure? Are you totally sure? Are you totally sure? It's the Skip Bayless method where it's going to make headlines. I think Max believes that. I don't think Max believes that.

I think he's so, so old school boxing. He has to say that. But he loves MMA too, man. I've had long conversations with him. Kind of, but I think with Floyd, he's very smart. He's my favorite analyst. I love Max. Yeah, he's very good.

I'm your favorite. Well, I's very good. I'm your favorite. Well, I'm saying boxing. Come on, bro. Come on, brother. When it comes to boxing, when he goes, Conor's not going to hit him, and I was like, no disrespect, I bet you $100,000. Open a joint account, send it to his team. Like, this is how serious I am.

He's not going to land a glove. Oh, really? Come on, Max. Well, that's silly. Come on, Max. It could happen that Floyd just storms out and fucking one-punch KOs him. My thing with Showtime, I had this chat with Espinoza about it. I said, I don't know what, you know, I know I'm going to be part of it.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I said, but what you have going on is you have your traditional boxing commentators, which is great, and that's usually what you do. This is not your typical fight. You cannot have a biased panel who don't know anything about Conor McGregor. Yeah, they look this fight up or whatever, they they just mimic or say what they've heard previously but they really don't know what connor's doing you have to have someone whether it's me or not but i think it's gonna be me you have to have someone telling you what connor's doing what he needs to do to to win

the fight you can't have just a pro biased boxing commentating team because what's gonna make this the biggest paper of all time is the UFC fans. Of course. We're the ones that are going to buy this bitch. Yeah. The old boxing heads. Look at Triple G. That's your best boxer.

200,000 pay-per-view buys, probably. 300,000, that's your best. Yeah, but Andre Ward is right up there with him, and Andre Ward gets way more. No, he doesn't. They don't do very well. Look up Andre Ward versus Kovalev, too. What was the pay-per-view? Best fight boxing.

$275,000. That's it. But still $100,000 more than Triple G. Still. Still for a rematch of a huge fight, too. And I'm saying, so Dana White, the UFC, Conor McGregor, that fan base, the UFC fan base, is like nothing else, man. They buy pay-per-views.

Well, that's 100% true. So you can't have just a biased boxing competition. Kovalev does just over $160,000. They buy pay-per-views. Well, that's 100% true. So you can't have just a bias box in competition. Kovalev does just over 160,000. Oh, my God. I'll put a picture of me lifting weights in the back. Oh, my God. 165,000 buys. Wow.

So that's basically the same as Triple G. In the award, Kovalev, too, does around 125,000 pay-per-view buys. How crazy is that? Is that? Which one's right? One's July, oh, the first one versus the second one? No. The second one does 125,000.

Oh, it's a pay-per-view flop. So the most it did, it said it pulls in 165,000. That was the final thing. Which is terrible. The top one. Which is awful. For that magnitude of that fight. No, one is June 30th, and it said 125,000. And the other one is June 30th and it said 125 and the

other one June 27 160 thousand the second 125 oh no really yeah oh my god that's terrible so that's a failure like that you losing money when you do that yeah and you paid Andre Ward you know six and a half million dollars did he get that much yeah and that you know You're talking about one of the best fights of all especially the year. Amazing fight. That fight was amazing. What was more troubling not only the pay-per-view buys down but attendance numbers and gate revenue at Mandalay Bay

Event Center in Las Vegas was not even close to matching the first bout which is held at T-Mobile Arena. Tickets sold 6,000 tickets. Whoa. That's crazy. Wow. So if you're going to make this the biggest pay-per-view of all time, you've got to bank on the mixed martial arts crowd buying this thing.

So if you want them to buy it, they're going to buy it for Conor anyways, but you've got to have a voice in there that's at least going to relate to the people. Yeah, and here's another argument for that. The Andre Berto fight, which was the retirement fight for Floyd, he only got like 300,000 pay-per-views. Horrible. Horrible.

When you're considering that he got four million for the Manny Pacquiao fight, right? Yeah. Wasn't something crazy like that? Yeah, 4.4 million. Highest of all time. Which is the biggest of all time. So he goes from the biggest of all time to a fight where 300,000 people buy it, which is like really mediocre.

Horrible. The only people are buying Floyd Mayweather fights are people that want to see Floyd Mayweather get fucked up. Yeah. And when he doesn't get fucked up, they go, damn. They get upset. See, I love, even Floyd apologized for the Pacquiao fight. Yeah. He was like, my bad, like, that sucked. Like, that was not fun, man. Well, it was crazy, because

Pacquiao was injured. You know, Pacquiao fought that fight with a fucked up shoulder. I like how Pacquiao's hating on this fight. I won't even watch it. Hey, Pacquiao, I guarantee your ass it's more entertaining than your fight with a fucked up shoulder. I like how Pacquiao's hating on this fight. I won't even watch it. Hey, Pacquiao, I guarantee your ass it's more entertaining than your fight with Floyd. I can guarantee that. He's just still salty. Yeah, because he's not, he just lost a fucking homeboy,

Horn, in Australia, and he has to rematch him. Lost to a school teacher. Straight up. Straight up. He lost to Rich Franklin in boxing. Yeah. Yeah. Just, I don't know if that was a correct decision. Because I didn't, I didn't try to score that fight. I see both ways. I watched it twice.

I can see both ways. But when I was watching it with my girl, I looked at her and went, God, I feel like Horn might have pulled that off. She's like, really? I'm like, yeah, you can't listen to the commentators. They're so biased against Horn. I feel like he might have did enough. Or especially early on. I'm like, he's kind of bringing it to him.

How many times did he get dropped? Once or twice? Horn in the, I think it was the 10, he's kind of bringing it to him. How many times did he get dropped? Once or twice? Horn in the, I think it was the 10th round, they almost stopped it. 8th, 9th, or 10th, one of those rounds, they were like, hey, if you don't show some improvement here, we're going to stop the fight. So that was a rough round. But still, the

culmination of all the rounds, I thought Horn pulled it off. Interesting. There's argument for either one. Still, Pacquiao, you lost to Horn. You're going to hate on Mayweather and fucking Conor. Come on, man. You're going to watch it. He's still salty because also he's got class action lawsuits against him because he fought with a fucked up shoulder and a lot of people bet on him.

He fucked us. Yeah, that's a weird situation. If you're a fan and you know that the guy came into the fight compromised, get that paycheck. Get that paycheck. But at the same time, a lot of fighters fight with injuries, right? That's a big one, though. I mean, he's a puncher, and his shoulder's fucked.

Like, he can't throw haymakers. So what do you do? I guess they— Your schedule? I wonder what they did. They give him a cortisone shot? What do they do? Yeah.

But if you're Manny Packer, what do you do? Just like, hey, I'm injured. We're going to have to reschedule this later. Well, I think he figured, well, I'm going to fuck it up. I'm going to get surgery anyway. I'll just fuck it up further. True. I'll just go in there and sling bombs, hey, I'm injured. We're going to have to reschedule this later. Well, I think he figured, well, I'm going to fuck it up. I'm going to get surgery anyway. I'll just fuck it up further. True. Go in there and sling bombs and hopefully I'll catch him.

And did nothing. Horrible fight. Well, it's just I think he was really compromised in his movement, you know? I still don't think he beats him, but. No, I don't think so either. I think his style in particular, he's much shorter and smaller than Conor. He's very fast, but, you know, he's also been knocked out by Manuel Marquez. When Juan Manuel Marquez knocked him out

with that one punch, fucking devastating, ba-blam KO. The earth, like, literally stood still for a second when that happened. Dude, I mean, that was as clean a one-punch knockout as you're ever gonna see. Marquez is one of my favorites. One of my favorites.

Yeah, it was a horrible knockout. Perhaps Marquez was on the supplements of his home country. I think all of them were. Yeah. I think both of his home country. I think all of them were. I think both of his home country. I think there's Filipino steroids in that bitch. I think there's Mexican steroids. That was always the argument about Manny,

is that Manny had gone up so many different weight classes and kept his power, and people were like, come on, son. He's like, get the fuck out of here. It's part of the game. I don't hate on those guys. I just assume he's doing it. I don't hate on them either. I mean, he's doing it. I don't hate on them either.

I mean, look, the deal is that you pass the tests. That's the deal. Even if they're not testing, I don't give a fuck. You're fighting Marquez, who's clearly on those Tijuana. Oh, yeah. Tijuana. Tijuana. The Tijuana tamale fucking protein powder.

What the fuck is in that? Tijuana testosterone, son. The Tijuana test, you know? Yeah, 100%. If he got on that Filipino cycle. What's crazy is that dude, Juan Manuel Marquez, had the same trainer that used to be a trainer for Manny. Who was the guy that hooked him on? What's his name, Angel?

I think it's Alex. I thought it was something like that. Really smart physical conditioning trainer. He had Manny doing a bunch of really interesting stuff. He's very good. Very good, but he got picked up before. He got busted before for injecting the Bane stuff. He got in trouble before.

Was it the same guy that got in trouble? I feel like that's his thing, right? That's what he was known for. I know he's supposed to be a really good trainer regardless. Well, you know, I mean, you got to think, when you got a guy like Floyd or Juan Manuel Marquez or anybody, or Manny, you've got, like, a championship caliber athlete. You know, you've got, like—

You've got a Ferrari. Yeah, I mean, you've got to make sure the tires are good, suspension's tight, and, like, you're a physical conditioning trainer. You can't fuck the guy up too bad by the time he gets to his boxing skill work. You don't want him to be that exhausted. No, but also, if we're racing cars, and you know a homeboy over here put a V12 in his, he can't be running with a V10. No. We've got to match V12s.

Yeah, we've got to match that V12. By V12s, I mean, let's get that Filipino hot sauce. Yeah. Like, that's the game, though. Yeah, when Manny was in his prime, too. Oh, my God. Remember him? Jacked.

Jacked. Jacked. Little dude. And remember, he was at strip clubs, like, wiling out, very John Jones-ish. And then his wife was like, this shit has to stop. And then he got flatlined. And he's like, Jesus, let's do it. Yeah, he found Jesus.

He started dressing all weird, running for government and shit. Changed his life. Changed his life. I don't know if that's the best thing for fighters, man. Oh, who knows? The problem is, especially now with testing, you know, they show up at your house and knock on your door, you've got to be clean. Yeah.

Unless you've got a rubber dick and a really good friend. Give you some blood. Even then you're in trouble, man. Yeah, you've got to have a twin and have that twin like live a steady healthy diet i don't know don't tell anybody about him just leave him in the basement look at him there against marcos antonio barrera dude i got pissed so bad can i pee yeah damn he looked super jacked there there's one where he looked he's a bit look jacked damn jack there too Looked jacked.

Damn, jacked there, too. Bring up Floyd right now. That's the Floyd fight. Yeah. When he was, like, when he first started out, he was, I think he was, I think he started out as a flyweight. Like, I'm not sure, though. I'd have to look at his career record.

Pull up Manny Pacquiao's career record. I'm pretty sure he went through eight different weight classes. Which is crazy. Really stop and think about that. I don't think very many people have done it. So, this is boring for a podcast. We're just going over stats of

Manny Pacquiao. Who the fuck knows what's going to happen, man? What's interesting is that it's actually gonna happen i'm just a big fan of freak shows and that's and i don't mean that disrespectfully like that it's not uh a real contest obviously obviously it is from a betting perspective and obviously it is because connor is a real combat sports world champion. But it's a freak show in that we don't know. It's not like if Conor fought Rafael Dos Anjos at 170, it's a fight. Like, ooh, this is going to be interesting.

I wonder how this is going to play out. I wonder if it's, you know, they were supposed to fight at 155. I wonder if Dos Anjos can, you know, if that kind of thing happens, that's an interesting fight. That's interesting to think about. You have all these variables. You've seen their fights. Never seen Counterbox.

You see, like, little tiny clips. That's all you ever see. When's the last time there was a fight like this where it was made, like, by the people? I don't think ever. UFC at all ever? Well, there was James Toney versus Randy Couture, but James was well past his prime and, you prime and really didn't train for it at all. He didn't know.

I mean, there was a video of James Toney preparing for the Randy Couture fight, and he was way out of shape, and he was just kind of hitting pads. And the guy would shoot the worst double leg takedown on him in the history of the known universe, and James would kind of sprawl, and he'd be like, yeah, I'm working on my grappling. You know, working on my boxing. Working on my boxing. Working on my boxing. He's always had discipline issues. They said he barely trained for that fight.

But that's the thing. Boxing experts, like, I mean, it's like James Toney coming to your world and being, well, no, it's not. It's fucking not. He came in out of shape, didn't respect the game, just kind of was doing it for the paycheck. It's fucking not. No. He came in out of shape, didn't respect the game. Yeah. Just kind of was doing it for the paycheck. It's like if Anthony Joshua gets, you know, if he's got an actual black belt in jiu-jitsu

we don't know about, and then he decides to fight MMA. Yes. He's fighting Steve Baird. But he's already Anthony Joshua. Yes. Yeah. That's really what it's like. That's what it's like.

It's like, how's he going to deal with kicks? How's he going to deal with that? That's where it's like. Yes. There's some X factors like, I don't know, but I know he does these two things very damn well. And he's super good at knocking people dead. Yes.

Yeah. Yes. That's one of the things that guy does. Like, that's a real threat. He's at Connors in his prime. He's 28 years old. It's a real threat. And, you know, Floyd's not.

And he believes he's going to do it. Yeah. Like, the one thing about Connors, he 100% believes he's going to win this fight, which is, when you got a guy like that, and he has momentum momentum on his side and you got the fucking nation of Ireland behind you. God, man. Yeah, it's some Game of Thrones shit. Special shit. And also, Floyd legitimately is almost 41.

Like, I think he might be 41 at the fight. Like, I think, like, his birthday happens between, like, what's his birthday? Like, he might be 41 now. I think during training camp, he turned 41. That picture he released on Instagram, though, I was like, he does not look 41. Yeah, he's great. February. Okay, so he's real close.

He's close, man. Six months away, whatever it is. So when he gets to be whatever the age is when the wheels fall off. Is it 42? Is it 40? Who knows? Who knows? That's the thing.

Yeah, who knows what happens if he gets dinged? I think he will be slower. Because if it's Floyd in his heyday, yeah, I kind of didn't stand a chance. But Floyd, a notch slower? Man. Well, you remember Maidana. You know, Maidana came in fucking winging bombs at Floyd. Yeah.

And the first fight, Floyd kind of, I think, maybe either underestimated him or didn't understand the style that he was going to present. And he got clipped. He got clipped with one punch at the end of one of the rounds where his legs wobbled. And I was like, whoa. And then remember Floyd did the rematch and picked him apart. Fucked him up. Yeah.

Once he downloaded it. Oh, yeah. I just think he underestimated him. Didn't take him serious. It's possible. Or it's possible Maidana fought really well in the first fight and didn't fight so well in the second fight for various reasons yeah but the only thing with that is connor's so much different than may donna oh yeah oh yeah it's way more skillful and he's

also he's very capable of doing weird shit like uh at a distance his ability to move in and out is very crisp you know it's like It's like you have to respect it. Like what he did to Jose Aldo. Slipped back and dropped that left hand in. Silly. That's not something a lot of people are capable of doing under fire. No. No, especially the stakes and your margin of error in mixed martial arts is so much smaller than boxing.

It's just, you know, it's his timing that makes him special. And his timing will be better than Floyd's. Floyd's going to be a little slower. I just think Conor's timing with the speed and power. That's why I give him a shot. If Floyd sleeps on him at all and Conor comes in and does something very unusual and catches Floyd with a big punch early, it could be chaos. With eight ounce gloves? How about Floyd? You're crazy, man. Well, here's the thing. MMA fighters fight with 4-ounce gloves. So, like, why has boxing decided that 8-ounces are what's safe for everybody 135 pounds and up?

10-ounces. Yeah. 8-ounces what's safe for anybody 135 pounds and down. So that's, like, only a few weight classes. It's not shit, but also those boxing gloves, man. 10 ounces when you got the wrap on. I mean, you have clubs on your hands, man. Literally clubs.

It's just protecting you from not breaking them. That's 10 ounces. 8 ounces with the wrap. Yeah. Interesting. It makes it so interesting. Yeah, it becomes like an MMA fight more. It's nuts.

It's going to be real weird. It's going to be real weird until we see what happens. We might see Floyd pick him apart. Yeah. And the odds are that's going to happen, but I just don't see it, man. If he really does start fighting like this, though, ooh, that would be weird. If Conor starts doing this, doing that. He really starts doing the machida.

You're going to see it. Those first four rounds, people, hopefully whoever you're watching with, people are silence us. What in the fuck are we seeing right now? Well, Floyd is also a counter-striker, and so is Conor. But if Conor starts doing some weird karate shit and gets him on his heels, gets him moving back, and then somehow or another can get him into some weird position where he can move faster than Floyd understands, or he could close the distance quicker than Floyd expects.

Listen, I asked Pauly, I go, Pauly, I know you guys hate each other and all that, but when you're sparring, were there things that were landing? He goes, he did some things that were unexpected and definitely landed. I'm like, man, the thing with Conor is, if he has that in his bag, his bag of tricks, when he throws it, it has to count. Because as soon as you throw it, Floyd's going to go, got it. Yeah. Downloaded. Got it.

Downloaded. So how many do you have? Four? Five? Over 12 rounds? You better make them fucking count, man. Yeah. It's like you got five bullets.

You better hit the target, man. Yeah. It's true, right? Right? And here's the other thing. How brittle areyd's hands really pretty brittle broken them a few times right but it's a huge factor for him if you've ever seen uh like his training stuff like that after every session his hands are in pure ice and he has the

masseuse at night massage his hands so it's obviously a factor right let's say that was was that before his last fight yeah for burdo as, it's been going on for quite some time. So they still get sore. Yeah. So think about this. Eight ounce gloves. He hits Conor on that giant Irish head. Right on the forehead.

He has a forehead. Let's be real. He's a good looking dude, but he has a dome on him. He hits that hand, breaks his hand. We going sizzler. There's certain factors I like to bank on. If Connor recognizes that his hand's broken and he starts talking to him. All you have is a jab and he starts shuffling, putting his hands behind his back.

Oh, you broke your fucking hand. Oh, you're fucked. You broke your fucking hand, didn't you? Your little core and your little head. Dude, can you imagine? And then he just annihilates Floyd, just walking him down. Isn't it interesting? People were really mad at him for calling Floyd boy.

Oh, man. You can call each other bitch, motherfucker, but don't say boy. But if someone goes, oh, do you know Johnny? Yeah, that's my boy. What's wrong with that? Yeah, we're boys. With Andre Berto, I kept saying homeboy. Then when he left, I was like, hashtag no racist.

Hashtag no racist. Homeboy's okay. Is homeboy cool? Yeah. Homeboy's like, oh, he's my homeboy. Hey, homeboy, you got to really figure this out. It's weird though, because it has boy in it. Like you can't have any pause between home and boy.

Oh, homeboy. Listen, homeboy. Yeah, you can't say that to a black guy. No, what? It's too much boy in it. It's too much. You got to be careful, man. Because like with Berto, he said something like, oh, that's my boy.

And I'm like. It's hard to say triggered around a black guy. Trigger. Trigger? Trigger. Why? Because it sounds like. Yeah.

Right? Like any word that's close. It's like, what did you say? I said trig. Trr. I said T, bro. Tr-tr-trigger. Yeah, boy, you just can't.

Yeah, you can't. Like, did you see Cody Garbrandt kept calling Sterling boy? Yeah, he called him boy, too. Yeah, boy's a weird one. We just gotta take it out, though. You're like, on social media, you can't do that. But why not? Well, because the...

I mean, come on, Joe. You don't know why. But here's the thing. If Al Jermaine started talking shit about Cody, that boy can't touch me. No problem at all. I know. See, I don't have a problem with that.

It's crazy. Well, no one has a problem with it. Well, but black people can use the N-word in boy, right? Because they went through some shit to earn that title. But boy? But boy used to be fine. Isn't it tough? But no, it wasn't fine, though, right?

Boy was probably always used, like, But boy, we used to be fine. Isn't it tough? But no, it wasn't fine though, right? Boy was probably always used, especially down south, as a derogatory term for young black men. Always. The white people would always say, hey boy. Boy, they fucked up boy. Grown men. Hey boy, over here. All those fucking Home Depot candle carrying douchebags fucked up boy.

It's a fun word. It's a great word. Those are my boys. Now I can't say that anymore. You can definitely say that still. Not if I have the token black word. Those are my boys. Now I can't say that anymore. You can definitely say that still. Not if I have the token black guy. Those are my men. Hang out with white people just for that reason.

All whites. All whites. Like it's Charlottesville. Fuck it. Yeah, about Ian Edwards. I can't ever say Ian's my boy. Nope. That's out the window.

No. But with Cody, I don't think Cody's racist. He was like, wait till you, All right, boy, keep fighting. But again, you got to know the connotation. You got to know you're talking to a black guy. So just don't use it. Use bro. Right.

Like if you say that to Dominic Cruz... White guys own bro. We did, but it used to be a black guy thing. No. What's up, bro? Nope. Black guys own bra. No, no, no.

That's new Bro was like the 70s Back when they had Platform shoes on And fucking Bell bottoms and shit No see I feel like Black guys had brother

They had brother and bro What up bro Really You're older than me So Bro's like surfer Like that Yeah bro

I'm saying No it's like Hawaiian You're B-R-A-H I'm talking B-R-U-H Bruh Bruh Hi bro What up bro Yeah that's like Hawaii you're you're brh. I'm talking br you age, bro, bro Hold up, bro. Yeah, that's like from ice tea. I think he probably invented that correct So then they own it or should I say ice cube which one ice cube or ice cheese little older? Hmm You know I'm saying though like this different bro, man white people fucked up bro

The race became like guys who wear loafers and go to private schools. Hey, bro. Yeah, maybe. Like the fat boys, bros. Yeah, like guys trying a little too hard. Now it's a bad connotation because they go, oh my god, there's such bros over there.

Yeah, isn't that crazy? Bros? As soon as someone goes, oh, they're such bros. I know exactly what they're talking about. I get bro science all the time. Joe Rogan's using bro science. Vegans love to say that. Bro science? Yeah. We know exactly what bros are, don't we? It's a funny thing

but it's anti-male in a lot of ways. And it's really rude. They get upset if you mock anyone that's transgender or anyone that's a woman or anyone that's gay, but they have no problem

calling us bros. They got no problem shitting on the very essence of being a man. It's bro-ing out. Bro-ing out. And now I'm embarrassed to say it. And then it's toxic masculinity, man. It's toxic. I mean, if I posted a picture on this podcast and went, me and my bros, we're getting roasted.

Getting roasted. The bro squad. Bro-ed it out. It didn't used to be that way. It's become that way over the last few years when so many douchebags use bro. We did it to ourselves. We did it to ourselves. A lot of tools did it because they took it over and used it.

Yeah, it's not we. We're being generous and including ourselves in the rest of the men who fucked it up. True. We didn't fuck it up. I feel like we made it cool. But we use brother now. That's right, brother. Yeah, brother.

Brother can work. Yeah. Brother is like, you can't just throw the term brother around. A guy I barely know tonight will be like, oh, what's up, brother? You can't do that. It's tricky. Unless you're Hulk Hogan. Unless you're so friendly, you want everybody to be your brother.

Like, ooh, okay. you can be that guy. Ah, man, I don't trust a guy who uses his brother just with anyone. You know what I'm saying? You can't. I throw it around a lot if I'm high. If I'm high and I meet strangers. What's up, brother? You know, at the meet and greets, I say, what's up, brother?

Yeah, see, that's different, right? It's different. You experience something with them. They saw your show. I know. A little bit different. We are brothers. Yeah, in a way.

In a way. Hey, man, what do you think about this Tony Ferguson-Kevin Lee fight? That's a good goddamn fight. I love that fight. Kevin Lee is a bad motherfucker, man. Isn't he? He took Michael Chiesa's back and strangled him like that. Definitely choked him.

Like, oh, Chiesa was upset. Chiesa's upset. Chiesa's upset. Maybe he would have survived, but the bottom line is that shit was locked up, and it should have never gotten locked up. Well, where I come from, when you go like this, and then your body goes limp, you're about to go out. Well, he was saying that he was just concentrating on his neck, just flexing his neck. Yeah, me too.

I was pretending I was asleep when no gear punched me in the face. But no, for real. If a guy's really good at getting choked, and he can figure out how to kind of tuck his chin and flex his neck and just ride out the choke. And if he thinks he's got enough air. Not on a rear naked. And Kevin Lee. Kevin Lee is a straight up strangler. Like that's a strong fucking dude on your neck.

100%. I know black belts, man. You get their, you get their, and you know, Chiesa is a black belt, yeah? He's a high level grappler. Well, he's not a black belt. He's not ranked, but he's essentially got. He's a high level grappler. I believe he has black belt levels.

Especially in the UFC. Yeah. I'd say he's a black belt level grappler in the UFC. Yeah, I agree. That's not a black belt. He's not ranked, but he's essentially a... He's a high level grappler. I believe he has black belt level jiu-jitsu. Especially in the UFC. I'd say he's a black belt level grappler in the UFC. Yeah, I agree. That's fair to say. Oh yeah, I definitely think he's a black belt level. I know high level competition black belts where if a blue belt gets on your back and they have a full sunken and rear naked choke, there's not much you're gonna do. You can hand fight,

but if it's actually in, you're fucked. Especially a strong athletic guy like Kevin Lee. I get Kevin Lee on this. And I love Michael. He's a beast. I like all his fights. I just feel like Kevin Lee, man, I think the division needs him, too. He dresses well, speaks well.

He's exciting to watch, you know? 100%. He's just, the mistake that Mario made in stopping that fight before, an absolute conclusion, is a big mistake. Oh, Mario fucked up. That's the real loser. Because it's just a choke. Yeah, it's just a choke.

It's a choke. What are you doing? You have to let it play out. Because now we have to have this argument, and then Kevin Lee's like, nah, he's choking him out. Jay is arguing it wasn't. Like, you fucked up, Mario. God damn it. Because if Chiesa just did go out unconscious, then we got no debate, and then Kevin Lee has this amazing clean win

and there's no bullshit attached to it. To me though, it was an amazing clean win and we just moved on and went, Mario fucked up

but he was going out. Anyways, what's next? I can't accept that. I can't accept that. I can't accept it because they went, here's an interim fight

against Tony Ferguson. I know they did and well, it's a good move. Chiesa, you're on the undercard. It's a good move too because Tony and Kevin Lee

were jawing back and forth with each other. Yeah. That's a good fight, man. It's a very good fight. Kevin Lee's a beast and he's each other. Yeah. That's a good fight, man. It's a very good fight. Kevin Lee's a beast, and he's a young guy. He's super confident. He's one of those guys that you see from his first fight to the UFC,

you see his giant leaps. Every fight, though. Yeah, the Chiesa fight was a big leap. Chiesa fight I thought was going to give him a lot of problems. When he got his back, I was like, Jesus Christ, man. And Chiesa landed a left hand on him, but when I watched it over the replay you know sometimes when you've seen it live too you're i'm looking through the fence i'm looking at it happen it's hard to tell what lands what doesn't land he moved away from it mostly caught on the end of it moved away from it and then you know once they

got to the ground it was crazy that he took kiesa's back and he dominated the position super dominate the other thing is i find interesting is ke Kevin Lee, he wants to fight Khabib. After every fight for the past three fights, he's like, I want Khabib in Russia. It's true. Damn, Detroit superstar. Chill, son. Well, that's the way to do it, man.

Ask to fight the scariest fucking guy in the game. But the thing about Khabib is, I don't know where his body's at. When they were saying his liver shut down when he was supposed to be fighting Tony. You're talking about a different game. Yeah, what does that mean? Like, are you okay?

He's cutting so much weight that his body literally was shutting down. If a fucking Russian goes to the hospital before a fight, we got some serious problems. Some serious problems. Where he didn't cut weight right and cut too much too soon.

And it's not even that they cancel the five-round fight for the interim title and have a three round fight for a catch weight. They don't even do that. They're like, you can't fight. The commissioner was like, nah man, his liver's shutting down. This is why when people are like, oh, we got Khabib versus Conor next. Let's just talk about that logistically.

You got a guy who can't make weight, almost died making the weight. You can go on a world tour against the biggest name ever in mixed martial arts and Conor McGregor. That's going to be your fight? You think Conor's just going to commit to that? Right.

How could he do that? Why would you do that? Not only that, Michael Johnson fight with Khabib apparently had the same issue, but he got through it. They're saying it's the same thing that happened in the Michael Johnson fights. This means as every weight cut you do do especially as you get older apparently your body Resists like a sponge. Yeah, it's bigger and bigger. It gets harder and harder your body does not want to do it No, yeah, and this time you get fat as fuck in between fights to act. You know, it was hilarious Kat Zingano was talking about chicks Like gaining weight in between fights about you cut all that weight

Well fuck your body up like for a, getting that low in weight and body fat is probably even more fucked up. Their thyroids are fucked. Like my sister-in-law, my brother's wife, she did competition where she cut weight. And her thyroid, like it just fucks their bodies up. Oh, when they're doing the bodybuilding competition? Yeah. Where they cut all that water weight. Like for the girls, like some of these girls you'll see in the UFC the day of the fight.

God damn, that's a supermodel. When you see her three weeks later, you're like, God damn. How does Paige McVay look like Adele right now? How did they just blow up? It's literally like their body just goes. Well, their body just probably really resists that weight cut. It's just not natural to do all that. It doesn't want to do it anymore.

Your body goes into famine mode. He starts thinking, we've got to retain some water on this bitch. Kat's looking for that Cyborg fight, but Cyborg's trying to fight Holly in Mass Square Garden. That's a big fight. I talked Cyborg two days ago, and she's like, man, Holly, Mass Square Garden, that's what I want. Well, that's a fight where there's some money. Holly is coming off that Jermaine Durandame fight, which she cracked with that high kick. That too.

I mean. Yeah, the Betch Cohea. I'm sorry, Betch Cohea, yeah. Yeah, but Betch Cohea was really not in her league, in my opinion. Not at all. Whereas Jermaine Durandame is. She cracked Jermaine Durandame with that high kick and then dropped her with that straight left hand. Like, Jermaine Durandame is as legit a striker as you're ever going to see women's mma agree so as long as she's not fighting cyborg

for holly to drop her yeah she just didn't want no part of that have you ever seen anything like that ever in mixed martial arts not interested damn i'm just went radio silent for fucking six months and then came back like she did stuff like 10 years ago. I'm going to cut down to fucking 135. Well, when I was talking to her post-fight, and I said, well, what about Cyborg? I was asking her and doing the post-fight interview. And she's like, man, I think I'm going to get some surgery. Yeah, shit, my fucking hand hurts right now. Let's talk about this later, Joe.

Good question, though. But if you do have a hurt hand, which I believe she probably absolutely did, now's the time to do it. Like, hey, I got this title. I definitely don't want to have one hand. But she didn't do anything, right? She was like, nah, that was an excuse. She might have. But she vacated the title because she's like, nah, I'm not going to do that.

She's fighting again soon. Yeah. Who the hell is she fighting? 135. 135. She vacated the belt. It was like, nah, we're good. Cyborg, have fun up there.

Holly for Cyborg's an interesting fight because I think stylistically, Holly's the perfect matchup to beat Cyborg. I don't think she beats her, but style-wise, she's made to beat Cyborg. Think about this. Let's just go through. Think if Holly beats Cyborg. She's the greatest female mixed martial artist of all time. Merch Ronda with a head kick.

So she beats the greatest something, the greatest of all time. Merch goes on a little bit of a tough run. Who gives a fuck? Right. Then beats Cyborg. So you beat Ronda and Cyborg. Right. We're going Sizzler. Yeah, and then Misha Tate comes back. Get you some. She was whooping her ass for five rounds and then just got choked out at

the end. But think about it, man. You beat Ronda, who was undefeated at the time. Then you beat freaking Cyborg. If she beats Cyborg and Misha comes back and fights her again, that's a giant fight. It's a giant fight. If Misha wants to fight again. I bet she would do it for that. She's sitting around for a while.

Super fights. Get that itch. She's like, God, this UFC Tonight gig is lame. God, I'm getting bored. I'm getting bored as shit. Itchy as fuck. Misha Tate's still first team all cutie up there. Oh, yeah. First team booty.

Tittays. Those are recent. Those UFC tittays. UFC tittays? Those are some pure UFC tittays. But with Holly, if Holly can somehow, again, I don't think she's going to, but you never know. I didn't think she was really going to beat Ronda.

But if she somehow can pull it off and beat Cyborg and she beat Ronda, do we just give her some weird statue in front of the UFC gym now? How does this work? But don't you think that in their eyes there's always going to be, even though she beat Ronda, Ronda's the one that put the thing on the map. She's always going to be revered more. See, I don't think so. I think she has such a crash landing, like the worst of all time, and she's gone radio silent, that we don't remember that climb.

Do you think people are upset at her? Like you weren't really a fighter. Like you're only a fighter for a little bit. If you were really a fighter, you'd still be there. You'd be getting back into it. You're still young. People are weird. No matter what. No matter what. People are weird with that kind of shit. No matter what. really a fighter you'd still be there you'd be getting back into it you're still young people are upset no matter what no matter what no matter what people weird with that kind of shit no matter

what they thought you were one thing and you fail at it i know you're a fucking loser i know they get mad if you were their hero for sure and you're not doing what they wanted you to do or you talked about being a do-nothing bitch and now you get knocked out and you're you're doing nothing you know it's like how dare you i bought the shirt well she was hosting battle of the network stars i don't know man i don't know well i mean she's just not into it you know i mean i could see not wanting to fight anymore right you didn't want to fight anymore at a certain point in time little little different though you know she was a like, she accomplished a lot more than me. You know, I love, like, my life now has never been better, man.

Like, I love what I'm doing. You know, I don't know. She doesn't have a thing like that, maybe. No, no. Maybe it was Battle of the Network Stars. I don't know if that's her true calling. I can't believe they talked her into doing that, either. I don't know, man.

You know? And also, maybe she made so much money, like maybe she's good there too. I don't know. But even if you make so much money. It's not about the money, is it? Yeah. Everybody thinks that that's going to be enough to make you happy. It's not.

It'll definitely be you in a position where you don't have to worry about bills. Now, maybe that's your number one problem, and then you're going to be happier. That's possible. Once you check that off, the other problems start to come up. You're like, all right, now what am I going to do? I don't have a passion. What am I waking up for? There was a study on income. And one of the things they said was when it comes to overall happiness, see if you can

find this. I think they said everything over $70,000 a year is kind of a washout. I thought it was $75,000, right? Something like that. Somewhere in that range. If you went from a bike to a car, happiness. When you go from a car

and just buy another car, and you have two cars, nothing. Nothing changes in your life. That's not true. You need to drive my Corvette. The perfect salary for happiness is $75,000 a year. Wouldn't it depend where you live and what you like to do? I don't know about that. For the magic income, as people earn more, their day-to-day The salary for happiness is $75,000 a year. Wouldn't it depend where you live and what you like to do? Yeah.

See, I don't know about that. For like the magic income, as people earn more, their day-to-day happiness rises until you hit $75,000. After that, it's just more stuff with no gain in happiness. That's someone who's never had a really cool car. Who wrote this? You never like had a deck that overlooks the mountain where you grill

with your buddies. I agree. You've never been able to go on these dope-ass vacations. Never had a steak and a dick son. Travel to Japan,

get some sushi fresh out of the fucking ocean with some master chef. That private jet. You can have some baller times. Hell yeah. Yeah,

maybe you get a fucking yacht and you rent it and go through the Caribbean. Yeah. Come on. You do whatever you want. You get kids, you take them on vacation wherever you want. and go through the Caribbean. Yeah. Come on. You do whatever you want. You get kids. You can take them on vacation whenever you want.

You don't worry about that stuff. Get the fuck out of here. You're trying to say- That guy's full of shit. Dr. Phil would be just as happy if he made $75,000 a year. For real. Get out of here. Bitch.

It just depends, man. Bitch, fuck you and your study. Fucking bro. Yeah. You think Elon Musk would be super pumped to go down to about $75,000 a year? You think Oprah's fucking giving away cars making $75,000 a year? Do you think he would get that top shelf actress pussy if he was making $75 million a year? Not a million.

Or $75,000 a year? No, even $75 million a year. He would be like, damn, I'm struggling. $75 million. Cut back on my security. They were detailing all the different shit that Johnny Depp spends money on. Dude, I love this stuff. What in the holy fuck?

He is, I don't know what he does in terms of his substance of choice, what he enjoys, but he appears to be on a financial rampage. Didn't he have to take a loan from his agent or something like that? Dude, Johnny Depp owns like 40 houses or something crazy Something crazy houses all over the world. They said his security is like stupid like two hundred seventy five thousand dollars a month Like bro Bro, you just need one guy. No one's trying to kill you. He's an animal man. You're fucking Captain Jack Sparrow No one's trying to kill you. He's a fucking animal, and he's got some sort of a lawsuit.

Two million a month spending. Well, you know, you gotta spend money, bro. Oh my God. Johnny Depp's ex-business manager is alleged she has outrated spending having two million a month. You get yours, Johnny Depp. You go get yours. Dude, how does that happen?

How does no one go, bro, you gotta chill out on the two million a month. He spent three million dollars to fulfill friend Hunter S. Thompson's dream of having his ass just shot out of a cannon. Three million? Forty-five luxury cars, ten million dollars a year to support his entourage, friends and family, and

thirty thousand dollars a month alone on wine. Goddamn, he's awesome. Baller! Baller! Balling out of control. That's how you do it, Johnny. He's lived a great life, though. Imagine those months, $2 million.

45 luxury cars? $10 million. That's how you do it. His entourage is having a grand old time. Personal lawyer Jake Bloom. Is having a grand old time. Personal lawyer Jake Bloom. Depp was living beyond his means and urged him to spend less and sell certain expensive but unnecessary assets to repay loans and pay his taxes and living expenses.

He's just out of control. 14 houses. Listen, that's cocaine living right there, ladies and gentlemen. 14 residences. Acquire, improve, and furnish 14 residences. I'm trying to see that car collection. 14? 14 residences, 45 luxury cars. Good Lord, Johnny.

But how much money did he make in his career? I don't know. Oh, $650,000. $5 million. Sorry, Jesus, $650 million. That's a lot of money. But $2 million a year. In the past 30 years, earned him an estimated $6,000. $5 million. Sorry, Jesus. $650 million. That's a lot of money. But $2 million a year. In the past 30 years, earned him an estimated $650 million.

Being a rich movie star, however, does not necessarily bring great financial savvy. Over the past decade, Mr. Depp paid more than $5.6 million in interest on overdue taxes, has lent millions of dollars to people unlikely to pay him back and has unwidely splurchist, I love that word, splurchist a number of questionable investments, not the least of which is that town near San Tropez. He bought a town.

My man just said, we're buying the town. Call my manager, tell him we're buying the town. The assistant calls the manager. Johnny's buying the town. He doesn't talk to the manager. He him we're buying the town. The assistant calls the manager. Johnny's buying the town. He doesn't talk to the manager. He's like, nah, so which house do you like? I like them all.

I'll take the town. Five homes. I'll take the town. Five homes. How crazy is that? Well, he owns a street in Hollywood. Oh, yeah? He owns a bunch.

Stan Hope's his boy. Oh, that's right. You're allowed to say that because they're both white. Yeah, yeah. And Stan Hope has to go up to the street, and there's a dude with an earpiece waiting for him. And the dude with the earpiece takes him in a golf cart and drives him up to the top of the hill. And they own the whole fucking block.

But there's one dude on the block that apparently won't sell. Tight move to that guy. That guy's like, nah. Fuck it. I like this house. I've been here forever. Fuck off. Tight move.

Johnny Depp wants it all coked up. He wants to buy it and improve it. Just make this whole thing black. Just we're going to sell the seven C's. We're going to turn it black. The whole room black. The whole house black. I heard Nicolas Cage is even crazier.

He buys castles and like knights equipment and shit. Oh, that's a good move. Him and Leonardo DiCaprio, I think, were bidding on some skull and he had to return it because it was stolen from like the Himalaya. I forget where I looked. That's balling. When he bought a skull from King Tut's fucking. And had a return it yeah the museum's like bro that's our shit Leonardo DiCaprio had a return a bunch of art that was given to him by a

guy who's apparently stole it all he agrees to return stolen dinosaur skull to Mongolia Mongolia. That's ballin'! That's fuckin' ballin'! Oh, that makes me feel good. Eight years ago. I made some stupid purchases. The skull of a Tyrannosaurus.

What is that word? A Tyrannosaurus skull? Batar? What is that? What's a Tyrannosaurus Batar? Do you know what that is? Have you ever heard that before? No.

How weird. Bro, how much do those go for? Dude, we were talking about, whoa, that's a dope looking animal. Damn, he bought that skull? Wow, that must be massive. So someone stole it? Someone stole it and he bought it and he had to return it? Off the black market?

Wow, that's crazy. Where do you put that in your house? Where do you put it? Okay, so here's my thinking. You have to have a real skull. Like, if you want to buy some replica like a child's toy you're a fucking asshole if you have one of those things you know like fuck you if it's not real yeah how dare you that's what i'm saying like if you go to a lot of museums

a lot of the skulls you're seeing are replicas damn 276 000 better deal than i thought what that's it joe we need one for the new studio buy Buy it. I'm thinking about it. Let's make some bids on a T-Rex. Let's just have like three raptors at the new studio. Dude. I'm thinking about it. What's like the most common dinosaur that you could buy? I bet something lame.

But you get like a stegosaurus for cheap because they're fucking vegans. Yeah, they're vegans. They're all small. They have little heads. Now you want to try Ceratops. Damn. Oh, those Sabertooth ones are bullshit. We ain't trying to have that. Yeah, well, Sabertooth Tiger's not a dinosaur, Jamie.

That doesn't count. Make sure they're real, Jamie. It's on Etsy, though. It's on Etsy. Hey, hey. Free shipping. Free shipping, $55,000. What are they saying they have?

What is that one? On Etsy. What is the animal? Oh, that can't be real. Authentic fossil massasaurhaliosaurusamborgi. Dude, that looks sick in the studio. Yeah, like, that does look pretty dope. Yeah, it does.

What is that thing? How big is it? 78 inches. 81 long. Dude. Damn, that thing's fucking big. Is that real? That's real, son.

They really have that for sale? And we get free shipping right now. That's the thing with Nicolas Cage's thing. So it took, like, seven years for him to get the certificate of authenticity. And then when they got it, that's when they found out it was stolen So I can buy some fake shit not know for a while dude. They had a dope ass Well, there's one you can get a t-rex from 1.8 million Yeah, I just can't imagine that for fifty five thousand bucks. You should get her you get a real is that what it is How much was it 250 fifty fifty five free shipping not a big T

T-rex is $1.5 million? Yeah. If I was some Sultan-type character. I'd have all that all around my house, like Game of Thrones. A T-Rex go. Ooh, scroll up. That's sick. $1.8 million?

Yeah. Wow. Worth it. If you're Warren Buffett and you're 90 and you're worth $80 billion. Right? Why not have a bunch of that shit in your house? Buy the shit out of that. Your wife would just slowly start to realize you're worth it 80 billion right like when I have a bunch of that shit in your house By the shit out of that your wife would just slowly start to realize you're going insane Start constructing a dinosaur in the middle of the room. Yeah, all sudden the construction crews at the house like what's what's going on, honey?

Oh, yeah, I'm raising the roof. I got new t-rex t-rex. He's too tall We're gonna have to cut out the ceiling too tall bitch. Yeah, I'm gonna put a glass ceiling out of stock Out of stock out of stock. I mean somebody bought put a glass ceiling in the living room. Out of stock. Out of stock. Out of stock. That means somebody bought it. A philosopher out there from Jurassic Park. No, but I don't want a rubber toy, Jamie. Oh, fuck you. You know what?

I want a real dinosaur. I'll take that Predator thing, though. I will take that Predator thing. How about this head? Oh, I know a dude who makes those, man. The guy who made the American Werewolf, Patrick McGee. He makes Predator thing? He makes the Predator and he makes the alien.

Those can't be cheap. Ooh, should we get that Bugatti limo, though? This fish is a million and a half dollars. That's gross. What? Yeah. What? Trying to pull it up.

What? White diamond. Premium white diamond. You'd be an asshole to buy a fish for a million and a half dollars. That depends. What's he do? Is it alive? What's he do?

What is it? Is it a carving? Seldom seen fish. What? The most exclusive breed in the world. Premium white diamond fish are rarer than precious gemstones. Oh, my God. So it's one of those things, if you're an asshole, you have it in your fish tank?

This fish right here is worth $1.5 million. Did you see that white moose the other day? I did. All white moose. Yeah, apparently there's only like 100 of those. If you have an all white moose at your house, you're getting some panty droppers. Here's the thing, man. Here's the real thing.

If you're on a hunting trip, okay, that moose is a legal-sized moose, and a white moose steps in front of you, do you release that arrow? Yeah, you got to shoot that white moose in his stupid face. It's totally legal. I don't like the way he looks. It's a good-sized moose. Oh, we're just going to shoot the black moose now? Fuck a white moose. Brown moose lives matter. I don't like the way he looks. It's a good-sized moose. Oh, we're just going to shoot the black moose now? Fuck a white moose.

Brown moose lives matter. I don't discriminate. White, black. I've never shot an animal in my life. But the thing is, man, here's the thing about animal rights activists and people that are nutty about animals. What this is is a genetic anomaly. It's not like this is a specific breed. It's rare.

It's like an albino person, right? It's not albino, though. It's not an albino person, right? It's not albino, though. It's not an albino. Apparently, it's just got some weird genetic anomaly. One of a hundred. Yeah. There's a hundred of them. So what is it?

See if it says. Scroll up a little bit. I think it says what the genetic mutation is. Yeah. See, fur coloring is a genetic mutation, and it's not an albino. Not an albino, uh like all white animals i heard they taste like vanilla they taste good dude oh you you never had a white one though you never even seen one i bet same same same shit same on the inside it's like white people it's all the

same don't you know look at that wow it's crazy another some some people thought the string coloring might be another sign of a sure-to-becoming apocalypse. Wow, goddammit. You see a horde of white moose? Yeah. There was only a hundred of them, though? I wouldn't tell anybody. I'll tell you one thing.

If I did kill that, I'd keep my mouth shut. I wouldn't tell people. They'd get too mad. Even if it didn't matter. Like, if you find a bear, okay? Like, there's a black bear. If you're hunting black... First of all, if you're hunting black bear, people get mad at you anyway because you're find a bear, okay, like there's um a black bear if you're hunting black first of all

If you're hunting black bear people get mad at you anyway, it's killing a bear because they're not round bears They think the bears are extinct or there's a very few bears to depend where you're at There's so many bears that they're all cannibals. They eat each other where it's a fact. Yeah, they eat the Cubs Yeah, they eat the Cubs like crazy including the females will eat their own cam We're saying you take out the big older ones because they'll fuck up all the cubs. Yeah, it's actually better for the population to take out the big males because the big males eat cubs. Correct. When we were there, oh, wow, look at these white deer.

Those are little baby white moose. I'm going to grab one of those. I'll grab one of those and run off in my car. They're cute as shit. Oh, they're adorable. The twins are likely less than a month old. Dude, they're so cute. Little cuties.

Little cuties. There's a mama moose. That big mama's going to wreck your world. She will fuck you up. They're different than any other undulates in that they're real aggressive. Like a moose will chase you down and beat your fucking ass. They're super dangerous. A deer's not likely going to do that.

They've done it before. Ah, fuck a deer. Elk might stab you. Really? With those horns? You get a little cocky when he's horny? You cock-plocking an elk? Oh, yeah.

That's when they're crazy. That's rule number one. They will fuck you up. They have swords growing out of their head. See, I'm down to do a hunt like that. Something dangerous where, hey, I got to watch my P's and Q's. Like, if we're hunting, like, baby fawn, I can't fuck with you guys. I told Cam this, man.

It has to be something dangerous and I'm down. Okay. Well, deer, I mean, if they did want to fuck you up with those things, they could stab you. But the thing is, they're prey. I mean, this is what they are in nature. They eat grass and they get preyed upon.

They are the food source of mountain lions and wolves and bears and countless other animals. I mean, that's just what they are. They're beautiful while they're alive. It's not like you should somehow or another diminish their existence, but that's a prey animal. That's why they're here. That's why they're here.

I mean, in the system that they're in, the biological system. Yeah, the ecosystem. Talking about the world? Yeah, we didn't create it. Yeah. And they're goddamn delicious. I had some axis deer for dinner last night. I've never had axis deer, but when you post

those, I get so hungry. Ooh, so good. I've been tearing the grill up lately. That, in my opinion, is like the most, if you can get to Hawaii, Hawaii. If you can get to Hawaii, that's the most ethical place to hunt. Because they don't have any predators. So they have to kill these animals.

So they have like some insane number of deer on Lanai. They have axis to kill these animals. So they have like some insane number of deer on Lanai. They have Axis deer on Maui. They have them on, I think Molokai has them too. There's no predators. No predators, none. So the only predators are people. So they actually bring over snipers to take out some of the deer to keep the population numbers down. God damn, a sniper? Because if the population gets too high, what happens is these deer start getting disease.

They start, you know. They run out of food to eat. The good thing about Hawaii, too, is there's so much growth. So much plant growth, they can eat like crazy. I love Hawaii, man. Love Hawaii. Love it. You weren't there for your birthday. What'd you do for your birthday? Nothing. Went to Disneyland. Took the kids to Disneyland.

Went with Cam Haynes. My family, Cam Haynes' family. Had a good time. I'm not a big party guy. You should have stolen a birthday party and then had your family speak into a video. That would be a good idea, right?

We had a friend do that. What friend? Anyway. Yeah, I'm not a big birthday guy either. Yeah, it's just like I don't want to be the center of attention

like that. It's ironic as that sounds because most of what I do, you want to be in the center of attention at some point. Yeah, it's a little awkward. Yeah, but's just like I don't want to be the center of attention like that It's ironic as that sounds because most of what I do you want to be in the center of attention Yeah, some awkward. Yeah, but it just seems like It's just weird. Yeah, I'd rather just Do a set have a nice dinner. Yeah, so what's a Disneyland or the Guardians of Galaxy ride god damn? It's fun. You love it. So good. I thought like how they're gonna bit make Tower of Terror better Oh, that's right. How does Terror is my favorite ride of all time.

It's even better now. Really? It's better. I'm not a Garden of Galaxies. Oh, I really haven't seen it. Garden of the Galaxies, right? You never saw that movie? Nah.

It's a fun fucking movie, man. I haven't seen part two, but I saw part one. Oh, you finally saw Alien Covenant. Ooh, I loved it. How good is it? I fucking told you, man. I loved it. Loved it.

All these people that didn't like it. My favorite alien. Get out of my life. People didn't like that. Right? You got some shit advice. I loved it. All these people that didn't like it. My favorite alien. Get out of my life. People didn't like that. Right? You got some shit advice. It was brilliant. Yeah.

What did you say is a bad movie? Alien Covenant? Oh, yeah. Click. Dude, I was crunk. I was crunk for that alien. I was... I loved it.

I loved it. I swear to God, when the movie got... I stood up, stand ovation, slow clap. Everyone else, sit down. I love when they made the AI guy. He gave them... I don't want to say too much, spoiler alert. The movie's been out for a grip. It doesn't matter.

Some people out there don't have the time. God damn it. It's been out for how many months? Okay, you're going to have to tune out now, folks, because we're going to talk about it. You haven't seen Alien Covenant that came out seven months ago. Go ahead and zone out. Jamie's fucked. He has to eat it.

He has to eat it. Well, all right. You don't have to tell the story. That alien that hybrid alien yes dude it was fun i like the fact that the the ai guy like they they cut out his creativity right he started getting weird good so it makes sense like if you give artificial intelligence the the need and the ability to create so but this movie it went prometheusometheus first, then this, right? Yeah. Yeah, it was like 10 years after Prometheus.

See, I love Prometheus. I like that, too. Hey, what was the movie with the alien? They named him Calvin. You know what I'm talking about? And Ryan Reynolds gets fucked. Yeah, I like that, too. Dude, I watch that.

On every plane, I watch that movie. I love that movie. The problem with those movies is there's cut-the-shit scenes. Like when the, you know, Life 1 where they're playing with it and they try these experiments with it and they introduce the electric. Like, hey, come on, man. You're doing this out in space. Don't you want to bring this back to Earth before you start fucking with it in some sort

of secured laboratory? No, we can't. Because you do that. And then look, if we brought that bitch back to Earth, then you know what I'm saying? I thought that movie was so fucking good. But you think they'd be doing things like zapping it and trying to like uh stimulate they thought he was dead though remember that and so they zapped him then he went yeah that movie was so dope intense he was scary as shit it was scary you know the problem was they though they gave him a little bit of a cgi face and i was like

i didn't like that either like that demon face nah man i, man. I don't need that. Keep him Calvin. I like how they called him Calvin. Yeah, because they couldn't make it too demonic because then it would be alien. True. Which is the most demonic. That thing is the most demonic. That thing's so scary. Oh, it's awesome. God, I love that movie.

And that tongue thing comes out. I like all the slobber and shit that comes out of its mouth, too, with this big, giant fucking bug head. Dude, have you been to the theater? It's right off, it's in Westwood there. I pick. No. You're talking, you get steaks, you can get chicken tenders.

I mean, you got to be off your diet. Where is it? It's right off of, I think, Welshire. Welshire in Westwood. Oh, is it like- It's called I Pick. Like, Cineopolis? That kind of shit?

Yeah, kind of. There's a few of those now. You get the VIP. It's going to cost you about $60 to get in the door. That kind of shit? Yeah, kind of. There's a few of those now. You get the VIP, it's going to cost you about $60 to get in the door. That's the way to do it, though. That's it,

son. Ooh, where's that? That's it. That's it. Ooh, it's a small theater, too.

Yeah, you need to take your wifey there. That's the move, man. They have really good food. Less people. They have all alcohol drinks, steaks.

Ooh, I like it. They have everything, man. I like it. I like it. And you can look down upon the people who didn't buy the VIP ticket

It's cool and judge it. I'll walk by you. Yeah. Oh, so there's people below you that have regular say Yeah, and you're like get out of here peasants move on peasants. Don't look at me. What if they talk enjoy the movie? That's down below, you know, they're angry about their position in society. I start talking in the movie theater. I snitch on them Excuse me, no folks. Ma'am, ma'am, phone. Did you know that there's a system that you can get for your house where it downloads movies as they come out and you can watch brand new movies? I need that shit. As they come out.

Because with a kid, like it comes, like Annabelle, the new Annabelle came out. I love scary movies. Scary. Did you see it? Not yet. I'm dying to see it. I'm scared. That new, you seen that new It trailer? Yeah. Shit, your pants scary. It looks scary. Coming in September. Here's how you use MoviePass. People are getting pissed off about this.

Sorry, I got to get this out of there. I think it's run by Netflix or the same guy that started Netflix started this sort of thing. It's been available for a while at 50 bucks a month, but now it's down to 10 bucks a month. What? There's some weird catch. There's some catches to it. It's only for 2D versions, and then you still have to pay for a ticket or something, and then you get paid back. There's some weird catch. There's some catches to it. Like, it's only for 2D versions, and then, like, you still have to pay for a ticket or something,

and then you get paid back. There's some weird, like, caveats to it. Dude, I would pay $100 a month to watch movies at my house. This is not at your house, though. Yeah, this is different than what Joe's talking about. He just introduced something totally different. Totally different. This is just cheap movie tickets that people are mad about.

Yeah, but the house thing is not cheap. The house thing is a system you get. I think it's, like like $50,000. And once you have it installed in your house, then you can watch movies as they come out. And they're on like a hard drive. I'm such a movie buff. Dude, if you have like a home theater.

That's what I'm saying. Having a home theater is clutch. And seeing new movies. Because with a kid, it's tough to get the babysitter. I've seen movies like, fuck, man. I just saw like Star Wars. It takes a while. I can't wait for that to get the babysitter. I've seen movies like, fuck, man. I just saw Star Wars. It takes a while. I can't wait for that to come out on DVD.

It sucks. It's tough. You know how it is. You can't even see what movies are available unless you pay for it. I think that's exactly it. Find a dealer. I think it's most movies that are out. I think that is exactly it.

And it's very expensive. Like I said, I think it's like $50,000. I think that is exactly it and it's very expensive like I said, I think it's like fifty thousand dollars And it just comes with the service to provide the movie Yeah I think you just it's like a hard drive and you download Whatever the movie is that you want to see you can watch it I feel like you shouldn't do that now because with this technology is coming so fast and like Netflix are going you know big movie Stars like Will Smith and these guys and I'm saying they're doing these Netflix deals

So you don't have to go to the theater. Look at this. It's got a fingerprint reader. Finger swipe with liveness detection. Liveness. Liveness. I mean, someone wants to cut your fucking hand off and have a dead hand that they use to start up your screen.

Or just take your fingerprint on a piece of paper. Or a dead hand. Whoa. Liveness. Where the fuck you see liveness? Right up there. Under fingerprints. What kind of a person

wants to kill someone so they can see Pirates of the Caribbean 8? Oh, dude. I would. I might kill a bitch to see the new Ed. To see the new Ed at my house.

I'd slice someone's finger off. At home. Dude. How great would that be? I don't like getting ready going out. I want to chill at home in my undies

watching all the new movies. The real problem is other people when they can't keep it together, when they start answering phones and talking. I've been at so many movie theaters where people start talking. It's so annoying. I used to go to this one movie theater. It was a little urban. Take that how you want, a little urban.

And they're in the movie theater, homeboy in front of me, just on the phone the whole time. And people are like, God. And so I go, bro, off the phone, man. And he keeps going, he puts up his finger like this. I'm like, oh. He keeps going, I go, bro. Movie star, I go, bro, off your fucking phone.

And he turns around and goes, wait till the movie's over. I've been in some fights, man. I think I can fight. And the whole movie, all I could think about, I'm like, all right, what am I going to do here? I got my girl here. What, is he with those people right? They all look similar if gets my drift Hmm, what am I gonna do? Am I gonna get jumped like how's this? I could I can tell you what movie I saw Yeah, I'm just balls deep in popcorn to both. I'm gonna fuck carbon up carbon up carb loaded carbon movie gets done

He doesn't say shit Fuck the whole movie up though. We should have said something I was stressed up carbon up carb loaded carbon movie gets done he didn't say shit fuck the whole movie up though we should have said something I was stressed mmm just cuz you never know man probably like three four years ago I think I know I think if I was you if I could remote control your body I'd might go there smack him in the head but there's a bunch man you're with your girl you know what I'm saying it depends on how many you got. But yeah, it is a very, very rude and disrespectful thing

to be on your phone. But I could see he's on Instagram. Like, I can see your phone. You're on Facebook. What the fuck? You're in the movies. Because he's a dummy. You're a dummy.

People are addicted. You're a dummy. They're goddamn addicted to their phones. Like, do you know how few people have the ability to sit through a fucking podcast without looking at their phones? You know how to do it.

But a lot of my guests, I see them checking their phones. To me, that's so disrespectful. Texting. Hold on. I just got to text this guy right back. So disrespectful. Would you do that if you were on SportsCenter? No, you wouldn't? Yeah. Especially not now. In this day and age. But for some people, the requirement

of an hour or two or in a podcast, three, without checking the phone, impossible. Chill out. You're not that busy folks It's not that it's their addicts. They're straight-up Junkies they're getting that little tweak that little rush of anticipation right the dopamine if they get an email or text They say literally we don't and we don't even know how addicted the phones are but people their brains are coming addicted to it Just to the sensation of feeling it. And the colors and mentions and Instagram and DMs.

Let me check my phone real quick. Yeah, let me check my phone real quick. Now that we're talking about it, my mouth is salivating. It's never as fun as talking to friends. But you go to a restaurant, you'll see five people on their phones not even looking at each other. I hate that shit. And when you're hanging out with a friend and they're on their phone all the time, it's brutal.

It's like, dude, come's brutal. It's the worst. Come be here. Why even fucking be here? Come be here. Put your phone down. Put your phone down. There's some restaurants, they take your phone out the door. You know that?

Fuck them. And there's some that give 25%. Then there's some, if you don't use your phone, you get 25% off. What? If you don't use your phone at all. So your camera's overhead. I don't know how they do it. Checking, checking.

Oh, gotcha. No deal. You checked it as you got up. No, you're in the restaurant. You checked it. No, I checked it when I got up from the table. No, it doesn't count. Don't get the deal, my man.

I was taking a shit. I didn't have anything to do. Ah, you can't check it. Still, you checked your DMs. In the restaurant. In the restaurant. I don't know how it works, but yeah, there's some people. Can you be taking fake shit so you can check your Facebook?

I took a fake shit just to check your Facebook. Addicted, son. Yeah, man. People are super addicted. You and Joey Diaz are pretty good about calling. Oh, yeah. I call people. Joey's great. You're great, Colin. I like to call people. The addicted. You and Joey Diaz are pretty good about calling. Oh, yeah. I call people. Joey's great.

You're great, Colin. I like to call people. The other day, you and I texted so much. Sometimes I don't know because you're busy. Sometimes I'm busy. So you got to text. When you're texting novels, it's like, fuck. No, we went back and forth.

We had a question. I'm like, okay, I got to hear this. Yeah. We had to talk. Yeah. It's exhausting. Yeah, man. There's some people that just, for whatever reason, are tethered to the hip.

And then there's some people that decide they can't use it at all, so they just go straight cell phone, like button phone. Flip phone? Yeah, flip phone. Ari, Aziz Ansari. Aziz Ansari's gone totally off the internet. I was watching some video, or no, it was a reading, a Vice article. I think it was Vice. They interviewed him, and they were asking about it.

He's offline. He's killing it. He got rid of his social media. Really? Got rid of all his shit. He doesn't do anything. So did Ed Sheeran. Because he appeared on Game of Thrones, and he got such backlash, he stopped doing it.

Come on. People are cunts. You have thicker skin, for God's sake. Stay offline for a few days, bro. But people are going to hate on it. You've got to use it for what it is, you know? For these trolls. Who gives a fuck what the sheep say? People hate on everything.

Everything. There's nothing you do to get away from that. Nothing. It is what it is. Go to Kevin Hart's post and it's like, fuck you, little man. It's like, Kevin Hart? Yeah. Goddamn.

How can I boo Kevin Hart? There's too many people. And everybody having access to you, everybody being able to communicate with you. If you just decide to swim in that river and you wonder why you got poisoned. Yeah, I agree. The problem is with your kids. Like even now, my son, he wants to grab my phone and, you know, do it like just, he's not going to Twitter and checking DMs and dick pics, but he's like scrolling through

everything just because of the stimulation. Oh, yeah. But with like your daughters, how old are they? Seven and nine. They have phones? No. Your nine-year-old doesn't? No. She's getting left in the dust. No. Your nine-year-old doesn't? No.

She can laugh in the dust. No. She didn't show up to school. They're like, look at this bitch. She didn't have a phone. I wonder how old they are, though. You don't have an iPhone 8? If you give kids phones, you let them see beheading videos.

You're letting them tune into the latest news. I'm on board, man. They can see that car run over those people at that white power rally. Yep. I mean, all that shit a kid can see and they're going to see. Their friends are going to tell them about it. Just think of the shit that you look at. I mean, think of the shit that every day I'm posting some new ridiculous video.

Someone doing something stupid and getting brain damage. Good luck keeping an eye on your kid's head. Ninth grade or nine years old is what grade? Third. And they're going into fourth. Wait until she gets to sixth grade. Yeah, I think like sixth and seventh.

You're going to have her be the nerd in school? Or sometimes they may have the iPads to write notes and shit. Oh yeah, for sure. And those things go online. Yeah.

Yeah, it's one of those things where you've got to wonder at what point is it okay to give it to them? And how much do you regulate it? And how much do you do it by example? You know,

if you're at home with your kids and you're like, stay off the phone, kids by example you know if you're at home with your kids like stay off the phone kids and you're just like constantly checking your phone then they're going to be pissed at you there should be no phones between whatever you know especially dinner time so you know it's going to be a beast man what we do with a big thing we do in my house a lot of art a lot of art that's cool constantly constantly like they're always painting and drawing and doing shit if you give kids that opportunity to do something and then then they get like in a pattern of doing it all the time. Where they're not, you know, their stimulation doesn't come TV and their phones.

Yeah, yeah. Do you let your kids watch TV or no? Yeah, we let them watch TV. We don't keep it from them, but we don't let them watch it all day. Yeah, no. So it's, I think that, like, I think especially creativity is important for kids because the more they realize they can make things. Creativity is important for kids because the more they realize they can make things, even if you could just make something out of paper mache or something where you're writing something, you know, something that didn't exist. Like my daughter writes stories, like a story that didn't exist. Now the story's written.

Like you wrote it. You created it. Like you realize you read stories. You can also write them. You know, paintings. Make a painting. Make a drawing. The more you realize you can create things.

It's my thought that it opens up your idea of what's possible for your whole life. You can create things in your life. You don't have to bank on anyone. You can create businesses. You can create a career. You can figure out how to work hard at something and create it. I also think it's really good for their little brains to make things. 100%.

Yeah. For me, it's weird because every morning. I live across from a school It's an elementary school yesterday was there the first day of school So there's all these parents drop off their kids. I was watching the kids play outside I walk my son every morning. I was thinking God how the fuck is he gonna make friends like I saw all the clicks I've never thought about ever ever in my life of that. How's this little dude gonna make friends? What happens if he doesn't make friends? They fuck does this work what are we gonna do is he gonna be the nerd you can't you can't be paranoid I said give me 10 push-ups even when they don't make friends that's good too

realize like what's wrong like why aren't you making friends like what adjust your behavior accordingly yeah well don't be the introverted kid who's in balls deep into the comics maybe you know or find other ones who also are. Yeah, I agree. Or do. And then take over the world, like Hollywood. Hmm. But it's the first time it ever crossed my mind.

I saw all these kids playing. I thought, what happens if he doesn't make friends? I got to deal with that. What are you going to do if your son gets older and he is sort of introverted, kind of nerdy, and you see some predatory bitch move in. What if your son becomes like some super successful producer type character? Yeah. And you see some predatory coyote type woman move in.

Just about to leech on him. Just runs him. Tells him what to do all the time. Oh my God. You see it. You go over to the house and you're like, son, you can't let her tell you what to do. Dude, there's nothing you can do. There's the power of the pussy, there's nothing you can do. There's the power of the pussy.

There's nothing you can do. Do you know that feeling that you have when a friend, when you see a friend is getting taken over? Oh, my God. Like, almost like a pod person, you know? Like one of them Night of the Living Dead. No, not Night of the Living Dead. It's like Avatar. What is that fucking movie?

Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Remember? The pod was under the bed. Never saw the movie? No. Dude. Well, there's a couple versions of it. There's a really, really old version from like the 50s.

What's the new one? Well, there's three. There's a Donald Sutherland version, which is, I think, I want to say like the 70s, which is excellent. A young Jeff Goldblum's in that movie. It's great. It's a great movie. And it's creepy. It's scary. And, you know, good special effects for the time. And then

there's a more recent one with Jennifer Tilly, I think, is in it. Or Meg Tilly. Meg Tilly. Jennifer Tilly's sister. And they're pods? Who's also an actress. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, what it is is while you're sleeping, it's somehow or another like the fibers get a hold of you.

Like it climbs up. Like if the pod's like near the bed, it gets a hold of you like it climbs up like if the pods like near the bed It gets a hold of you and touches you and then it puts you to sleep and starts replicating you underneath the bed So like while while you're sleeping, it's like draining your body and replicating you and then in the morning You're dead you're like a dry husk, but then there's an alien is underneath Yeah, so this is Donald Sutherland as he's asleep, this thing was taking over and recreating him. And he woke up before it was too late. That's cool, man. Dude, it was a dope movie.

That's Kiefer Sutherland's dad. Yeah. Is it? Donald Sutherland. I didn't even know that. No wonder why Kiefer Sutherland's so fucked up. His dad was Donald Sutherland. That's Jack Bauer, right?

If you grow up and your dad's a famous actor and you become an actor yourself, you're going to be fucked up. Yeah, you're going to be a little weird. That's the end. Oh, that must be the new one right there. That poster? What is that one? Invasion of the Biosatras.

Yeah. 1978. No, that must be the 78 version. Because the newer ones, oh, the newer one is below that in green. See it in green down there? Well, shit. No, that's the really old one. That's the 1950s one.

Dude, it looks pretty sweet. There was one more that happened with Meg Tilly. I don't remember what year, but I want to say it's like maybe late 90s. I'm surprised they don't recreate it already. Yeah, there she is. Vase of the Body Snatchers, The Dork Report. What was this called? Body Snatchers.

Oh, it was just called Body Snatchers? That's what it says. Oh. Really? I'll check that shit out. Do you know what movie it was? That's the porn version. Body Snatchers.

You know what movie it was? Dope. I watched it on the plane. 1993. Okay. That was pretty good. But it's one of those things like you don't even remake those things so many times what was dope i watched that movie with ben affleck

where he gets he moves to tampa he's a like a mafia gangster moves to tampa accountant no no see i thought it was accounting i was i was taking sleeping pills so i was a little out of it and i thought it was the accounting and i was like the accountant the accountant and i was like that's not this it was something else that shit was so good really and I was like, what the fuck? The accountant. The accountant. And I was like, that's not this. It was something else. That shit was so good. Really? Yeah, he's involved with a mob, and they want him to go run the Tampa Bay wing of it.

So he goes down there. Oh, fuck, it was good. Huh. Oh, man, it was fucking classic. Was it? Yeah. How high were you? You were high as a kite.

I might have been. Some fucking ambient and shit. Dude, they don't work on me. Really? I took them in Australia, and people were like, only take one. I was like, I Some fucking ambient and shit. Dude, they don't work on me. Really? I took them in Australia and people were like, only take one. I was like, I'm not that sleepy, so I'd pop three of them. I was fucking one eye open, just like Ben Affleck's the best ever. Live by night.

Yes! 6.4 on Rotten Tomatoes. People are fucking haters of my boy Ben Affleck. You fucking haters. They are haters on Affleck. Why do people hate on Affleck? Goodwill hunting? Seems like a douche though

How dare you Did you ever see his argument with Sam Harris on the Bill Maher show? No I haven't Very uninformed Huge mistake He argued with Sam Harris about what's in Islam Well hey Ben Affleck Listen

I'm going to say stain your lane I'm all over the place But with Ben Affleck Sam Harris? You never seen it? No It But with Ben Affleck, Sam Harris? You've never seen it? No. It's hilarious because Affleck doesn't know what to do, so he goes full social justice warrior and starts calling Sam Harris a racist

and saying it's gross. You're so gross. It's so racist. He has no idea what he's doing. He's so gross. And then Sam Harris is like super calm. He's the problem. You can't yell and argue with Harris because he will never go there.

It makes you look super amateur. You look like a buffoon. Especially when he starts spouting out facts and explaining. We're talking about an ideology. Did Ben Affleck go on there to debate him? I think what it was is he was getting ready for Batman. This is my personal belief. It has no basis in fact, and it's just pure speculation.

I think he was on steroids speculation I think he was on steroids Getting ready for Batman He got jacked for Batman And I think when you get jacked like that You get a little fucking testy You racist He had no data Fuck you bro

Well he tried to sling a little data With Sam Harris And he just got run over Oh my god Sam Harris. And he just got run over. Oh, my God. What are you thinking? He just got run over. And everybody was super mad at him afterwards. Really?

It was like, oh, yeah, online, they got torn apart. They just handled it very poorly. See, I don't get the hate. Well, obviously, he fucked up there, but I don't get the hate with Ben Affleck. He makes good movies. G-League? All right, you're fucked up. Because people see that and they go, ooh, that's the real you.

Well, that's it. But is it the real him? You're yelling out gross racist. Is that him Bruce Wayne on steroids? Could be. Could be. Could be. I would think that.

I've never seen him behave like that before, and he definitely got jacked for that movie. And when you're 45 years old or whatever he is, you just don't get jacked like that. No, you don't put on muscle like that. You don't put it on like that. That's not normal. It's not normal. Unless you're on some radical supplements. Which, if Hollywood called me and was like, hey, why don't you be Bruce Wayne, I'm going

to get on that Gotham City cycle. I'm going to get on some of that Clembutrol to lower my body fat. Oh, I'm calm. Get all fucking Anivard up. Oh, release the hounds. I'm going to fuck. They won't even need a mask. It's just going to be fucking legit.

Look at that. He gained 20 pounds, 228 pounds total. Got down to 7.9% body fat. Ben Affleck's trainer, Walter Norton Jr. Talks about Ben Affleck's body during the days filming the town. He lost 12 pounds for the town. He was stronger in every lift. Hey, Walter Norton Jr.

How about you tell us the cycle he's on? Cut the bullshit. Tell me the truth about testosterone. But if you're in Hollywood. Is there a photo of him with his shirt off at 7.9% body fat? Because I think I'm calling bullshit on that. Me too. You know how low that is? It's very low.

He never got that ripped. He wasn't even as ripped as the last Batman. Christian Bale? Yeah, Christian Bale is more ripped. He's a coat hanger, though. You know, he's real thin. No, he got jacked. He's huge.

He's got some muscle, but he's always thin. Oh, I know what you're saying. Low body fat. He's an ectomorph. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he's an ectomorph. You don't think so?

I think he's a mesomorph. Oh, I don't know. Well, let's look at him. We'll look at him next, but I think you're wrong on that. Wow. Let's, uh, you see, got a good picture? Pull it up so we can see. Show us. What do we got here? No, that a good picture? Pull it up so we can see. Show us.

What do we got here? No, that's not good. Shirtless. Say Ben Affleck shirtless. Is that him in a tank top? That him right there? He's fucking jacked. There's one right there. That's the rock.

Oh, that's the rock's body. That's the rock's body. Oh, my God, he's jacked. That's the rock. Oh, that's fake. Yeah, yeah, that's the rock's tattoos. We'll go up to the one right there. That's not him either.

That's Superman. Is it? Goddamn Superman? Damn. They're next to each other. Oh, Superman. Here he has a belly. Superman is jacked.

Yeah. Ben Affleck is kind of sort of jacked. Ben Affleck's shirtless. That's Ben Affleck fucking dad mode, though. That's not him shirtless. What's that word there? That's still Superman. That's Wolverine.

There he is right there. That's at the beach. I'm sorry. Don't know when that was. I'm not buying it. No. No clue when that was. No see I'm not buying it No I don't give a fuck if that was 10 years ago Let me stop this right now That is so not

7.9% body fat Go back to those pictures of him right there That is not even Remotely That's more like 20. Yeah. This is an Argo. Okay.

Different movie. Good movie. Oh, upper right-hand corner. Upper right-hand corner. No, that's not him, son. That's the wolf from True Blood. Jacked. Joe Manganiello.

Why are they lying here? Ben Affleck is ripped. Sexy. No, Chris Pratt got jacked. I don't know if that's real. That's him right there. Ben Affleck? That's Chris Pratt. See, that's notatt got jacked. I don't know if that's real. That's him right there. That's Ben Affleck? That's Chris Pratt.

See, that's not really that jacked. There was a scene of him in... That's how he used to be. He used to be fat. He looked pretty good. Yeah, but that's not like the rock jacked. Jesus Christ, Joe. The rock?

That's jacked. That's the level? Okay, that's fake. All these are fake pictures. Who's that guy? That's American. That him in Batman? That's a suit, though. That is a suit, son. that's fake. All these are fake pictures. Who's that guy? That's American. That him in Batman? That's a suit, though.

That's a suit, son. He's got a bullshit suit on. Oh, go to homeboy there. Gyllenhaal? Yes, Jake Gyllenhaal. Oh, yeah, he did get jacked. You know who else got... Is that really Jake Gyllenhaal right there?

Yes. God damn, homeboy. See, that would be 7% body fat. Yes. That's what 7% looks like Go back to him Now you're going to Gay porn Jamie Stop it

I'm just seeing who it is I'm just seeing who it is Could have been Affleck or something See if it's a guy I jerk off to No he's Fucking super jacked That's like 7% there

7% is so unheard of That looks like a guy Who's fighting in the UFC Right now Correct Yeah Jake Gyllenhaal's one of my faves Yeah see

That's the kind of dedication I don't know if's the kind of dedication. I don't know if Ben Affleck has. Dude, I don't know if you can get down to that. Good Will Hunting you did. Never saw that. I've never seen that. That's some shit. Now, go to Christian Bale. See, much more jacked. There's some good pictures of Christian Bale

jacked. Type in Christian Bale jacked. That's pretty good right there. Really? Yeah. He's from the movie, too. Yeah. No, he just looked more like a guy who could really fuck you up than I feel like Ben Affleck looks. True. No disrespect, Ben.

No disrespect. Like right there, upper left-hand corner. Oh, Ryan Reynolds, first team all body. He's pretty fucking jacked right there. Yeah, he is. I mean, that looks like a real batman oh my god that's the machinist that was like one of the worst movies he ever did in terms of like the reception it got how many people watched it it wasn't bad it was really weird but the

difference between being the skinny guy on the right hand side which was like him dying I mean he essentially starved himself almost to death and then a few months later. He's the guy on the left That's him in the movie fuck Yeah, he played a guy with narcolepsy. They couldn't sleep and didn't eat Look how skinny he got man. He's a good of an actor is that fucking I don't know if that's acting That's just being a psycho That's dedicated to you. That's dedicated to you that's dedication to your craft your craft is starving to death you're really good at it i mean that's the mental willpower it's a oh yeah for sure but it's really bad for your body oh and it's not good enough

it's not good enough of a movie dude i'll tell you who got jacked was ryan reynolds oh he's jacked yeah for for blade two first team all body oh yeah that's right yeah he jacked. Yeah. For Blade 2. Oh, yeah. For his T-ball body. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, he jacked. Yeah. But why wouldn't you do that? If you're playing a fake character, I don't get why you wouldn't do a nice cycle. Oh, yeah, for sure. Or you do the, yeah, he's jacked.

Yeah. Or you do the Gerard thing. What's that guy's name from 300? Gerard Butler? Yeah, they just CGI the fuck out of you. I heard a hilarious story with that, where on 300, they just CGI the fuck out of you. I have a hilarious story with that where on 300 they're making the movie and everyone's

doing CrossFit non-stop, doing the Spartan workouts, and Butler's not showing up. And they're like, what the fuck, man? He's like, I'm not doing this. I don't want to do that. He goes, just tell me when I have to be ready. I will be ready by any means necessary. Like, really? He's like, I got this. And then didn't do what everyone else did and came fucking.

Spartan. Spartan. Spartan. Killed it. Yeah. Well, he probably. Well, the thing about the. Is that really what his body actually looked like?

Yeah. Wow. But now he's fucking bitches and they're like, what the fuck? He was super jacked and then he let himself go. Wow, it's hard to maintain that fucking thing. That's not real. Yeah, you can't maintain that. How much is it's real?

How much is what he really looked like? Oh, go upper left-hand corner. Yeah, what is that? Okay, that's more realistic. No, there's even a better one. Oh, look it, go that one. Set of tits on him. Let himself go.

Imagine if you're a girl and you think you're fucking 300, and you get there like, goddamn. And you feel that gut resting on the top of your ass while I bang you from behind. I don't like this here. Hold up, girl. What the fuck? What happened to Spartan life? Hoist that fucker it's a movie bitch down there oh god you go halfway limp cuz you doing coke all night just the

worst night of your life it's gonna do when they come for you mm-hmm Brendan Shaw we gotta get out of here I got another podcast we do those fun man that's the blue by yes That was three hours, man. Was it three hours? Fucking flew by. Goddamn, it was awesome. We talked to Mayweather. We definitely talked to Mayweather McGregor.

We probably made some MMA sites some awesome headlines. Do you have any prediction on it? You can't. What do you think? In your heart or heart? This is what I like. I like shocking results. A shocking result is Mayweather comes out there,

underestimates Conor McGregor, and Conor puts him at the fucking end of the rainbow. I love that. He's dancing with the leprechauns in a pot of gold. How did I get here? Because he's in fucking Dreamland because he faceplanted. That's the exciting result. The exciting result is Conor McGregor becomes

the greatest athlete the world has ever known and the most famous guy of all time and MMA wins. I agree with you. Alright, that's it. Love it, man.

Love you. That was awesome. You're the best, man. You're the best. How can I be the best when you're the best? That was so much fun, man.