The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - April 28, 2018

Episode Date: April 28, 2018

Joe sits down with Eddie Bravo & Brendan Schaub to watch the fights on April 28, 2018. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. $15? Three, two... Boom! And we're live, ladies and gentlemen! Live! Mauro Ranallo and Big John McCarthy! Eddie Bravo rocking the old-school Elio Gracie shirt.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I love that shirt. Respect. Deep respect. Brendan motherfuckin' Sharp! Oh, and I got a Sugar Sean O'Malley shirt. I might strip down later And put this motherfucker on Is that the best shirt
Starting point is 00:00:27 Reebok's ever made? Might be one of the Dopest shirts in history It's pretty great It's pretty great Reebok Reebok's getting better man I'll give it to him
Starting point is 00:00:33 I'm wearing a pair of Reeboks Oh no not I thought I was Not I thought I was for a second I had them on earlier today I had a pair Reebok sent me a bunch of sneakers
Starting point is 00:00:43 But that's a dope shirt right there You know me. I was super critical on them for a while. They're getting way better, man. Yeah. Way better. This is good. When they posted that, I got my boy who works at Reebok.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I sent him a screenshot. I went, God damn, you guys hit this one out of the park. They're embracing it. They're embracing the fact that he's a stoner. Like heavy duty. Yeah, it's just a fun shirt. It talks about me? It's so tight.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Oh, yeah. What good is Instagram? Dude's getting high all day. Didn't you see him on the last... How does he fight? Well, he just takes time off. You don't have to take much time off anymore. Three weeks or something, right? No. Two weeks? Two days. Two days? Two days. Yeah. Really? Yeah, the new USADA rules.
Starting point is 00:01:18 You just can't be high when you fight. Depending where you fight, though, right? Because there's some issues coming up. I forget which state, but they do it different. Probably Texas, right? The commissions are haters. So Dylan Danis, this is not his MMA debut? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Oh, against Kyle Walker. And Eddie, tell us about Dylan's jiu-jitsu. He's pretty high level. Yeah, he's one of the best around, for sure. He had an amazing match with Gordon Ryan at 2017 Abu Dhabi. I mean, the fight was really close. It could have went either way.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And the judges' decision gave it to Gordon. And Gordon went on to win his division. So he's top of the food chain. And he was with Marcelo Garcia. He got his black belt from Marcelo Garcia. Yeah, Marcelo kicked him out for shit-talking, right? Is that the deal? He started hanging out with Conor McGregor.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And Marcelo Garcia is the opposite of that kind of shit. Super humble? Incredibly humble. Yeah, you would think though that Marcelo and him would work it out
Starting point is 00:02:13 though. You give a guy a black belt and the guy's a high level black belt. It was just too much drama. It was a lot of drama. But have you ever met Dylan in real life?
Starting point is 00:02:20 He's a super nice guy. He's a great guy. He's just trying to make some money. He's smart. He talks shit to Jon Jones. Here we go. Oh, that's stupid. I know. All these guys talking shit life he's a super nice guy he's just trying to make some money he uh he's smart he talked shit to john jones and here we go oh that's stupid i know all these guys talking shit that john jones are eventually gonna have to meet him and they will get slapped but then i saw dylan when the
Starting point is 00:02:34 connor and floyd fight me and him sat next to each other he's the nicest guy in the world man look at his fans he's very connor mcgregor-esque with that same coachings right same coach and same camp oh dude he's got real problems with his striking. That dude just stepped in and cleaned him with that left. Oh, shit. Dude, he got some problems. His stand-up is super rudimentary. I wonder how his takedowns are. They better be good.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Well, he's kind of like the Mackenzie Dern, right, of Bellator. Well, he's obviously closing the distance, too, which is a problem because it's obvious you're coming in. The guy could just wait on you. His distance control is awful. Several times he's been clipped by that left hand. Oh, shit. If this guy can keep this fight
Starting point is 00:03:12 standing. Okay, yeah, his kicks are stiff. Oof. Yeah. But his jiu-jitsu is the shit if he gets his fight to the ground. He's kind of like an alley cat version of Connor. Like super alley cat. Like real rough. He pulls back with his chin straight up in the air, too. He needs to get a clinch.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah, for sure. He needs to get that underhook. For sure. There you go. He pulled up. One guy's jumped to guard. There we go. I like it.
Starting point is 00:03:33 It doesn't happen enough, Eddie. No, it doesn't happen enough. If you can't take the guy down, if you can't take the guy down and you're dangerous off your back, pulling guard is great. Right? He's hooking it. Look, and he's about to get him in the armbar right here. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Oh, it's good. Oh, yeah. This is good. This guy's in trouble. If get him in the armbar right here. Watch. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's good. Oh, yeah. This is good. This guy's in trouble. If this guy- He's going to sweep him. This guy knows the gig. Oh, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:03:49 This guy's going to pull out of this shit. He wants a leg lock. He's got that leg. He wants a leg lock. Oh, we're going for it right now. He's going to heel hook him. Watch. He's got that leg.
Starting point is 00:03:56 He's got him. It's in deep. It's over. It's over. For sure. This guy's fucked. He's fucked. Get ready to tap.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. There he goes. And that's a wrap. I think he's okay. He pulled guard and Get ready to tap. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. There he goes. And that's a wrap. I think he's okay. He pulled guard and got a heel hook. Pretty sweet. Beautiful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 That was a sweet heel hook. Perfect opponent. I don't have a problem giving him a warm-up fight like this. First one, first MMA fight, you're Bellator. He's still down. Could be worse. Could be Ian Pico, your first fight. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Just those things, man. When I see a dude get his knee ripped apart like that, that dude's fucked. Look at him. He's in pain. You could get your knee ripped apart like that, that dude's fucked. Look at him. He's in pain. You could get your shoulder ripped apart in a Kimura the exact same way. Oh, I know, but it's weird, right? I mean, I'm not saying it makes sense. You just got to know when to tap.
Starting point is 00:04:33 That's it. I think the problem is guys aren't too familiar with what goes on with the leg locks, so by the time they're tapping, it's too late. Yeah, but what I'm saying is for whatever reason, for me, when I watch it, I cringe more with leg locks. I agree. Like if I see a guy get his arm broken, it doesn I watch it, I cringe more with leg locks. I agree. Like if I see a guy get his arm broken, it doesn't bother me like I see a guy get his knee ripped apart. Is it because we're not used to seeing it?
Starting point is 00:04:51 I don't know, man. Maybe it's because I know the tap. Like you only have so much time to tap. Like your shit's going to explode. Maybe it's just, I don't know. I don't know. But when a guy's really good at it, you know, if you fuck up an ankle, he's out for a grip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yep. Yep. Oh, that's a nasty one, too. Oh, he had a toe hold. Oh. Nasty toe hold. I had a bad angle. It was a toe hold.
Starting point is 00:05:12 That was a heel hook initially. Yeah, I thought so, too. But they didn't really show it, though. You couldn't see his back was too, right, Eddie? Yeah. You couldn't see it. Well, you know what, man? I mean, I like the fact that he's in there, but, man, I feel like just watching him move with his stand-up, I'd like to see him.
Starting point is 00:05:28 That's his first fight, brother. I know, but I'd like to see him get some more stand-up training. Just, it seems like, I mean, look, if he gets guys to the ground, they're in a world of shit. But you can see from his stand-up, it's like rudimentary. It's super amateur, but how is that any different than Michael Venom Page who has zero jiu-jitsu, or someone with just zero jiu-jitsu? You know what I'm saying? He starts on the feet, but for Dylan Danis, he's a straight-up black belt as they get
Starting point is 00:05:54 when he comes to the ground in MMA. It's true. But you know Michael Venom Page is tap people. He's tap people with leg marks and shit. Yeah, I'm just saying. I don't think his jiu-jitsu is as bad as you think it is. Not Michael Van Page. He's no Dylan Danis.
Starting point is 00:06:09 No. But Paul Daly. Yeah, that's a good example. His jiu-jitsu's awful. Yeah, if you're high level at one aspect, whether it's wrestling, jiu-jitsu, or striking, if you're super high level, world class, you can suck at the other two. It doesn't matter. I mean, look at Melvin Manhoof. He's so dangerous on his feet, he doesn't really have any jujitsu but it's okay it's true people still want to see him fight look at damian meyer jake shields my thing is though when i see
Starting point is 00:06:33 a guy like dylan dennis who's so good on the ground i really want him to achieve a certain level of striking proficiency before he fights before he fights yeah yeah i just feel like a wrestler is gonna put him in a world of shit. The other thing, Joe, he's never been in that cage before. So maybe in training, he's putting it all together. You're ready to go. He gets in there, he's like, damn. Maybe his nerves, never felt those nerves inside the cage.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And he took those shots, too. Took those shots on the chin. Well, he got hit with a couple good, clean left hands. And he adjusted. I'm sure, I'm about a million percent sure the plan wasn't to go out there and pull guard the fact that he realized oh shit this guy's tagging me and he was kind of hesitant to get in tight to get a takedown pulling guard showed that he can adapt yeah i'm not mad at it at all yeah i'm sure that was probably in the plan you know plan b plan c. But if he gets guys to the ground, they're in a world of shit.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Most fighters, they don't have it in their plan to pull guard. Most don't. Not the ones that I've talked to. It's never part of the plan. Like, if this doesn't work or that doesn't work, I'm going to pull guard. That's too bad, isn't it? It's either I'm going to try to take him down until the bitter end. Speaking of pulling guard, you know Kamaru Usman's fighting Damian Maia?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yes. Damian Maia took on short notice. How's that weight cut, son? That's not good. Was he supposed to be fighting Ponzinobbio? Yes. And what happened? He got hurt.
Starting point is 00:07:53 A knee injury, right? Man. That card has taken a hit because then our boy No Time isn't fighting Shogun. So they had to move it because of his... Since he lives in Germany... Oztemir's not going to fight Shogun. So they have to move it because of his... Since he lives in Germany... Oztemir's not going to fight Shogun? Well, because of his things going on in Florida with the felony or whatever he's waiting on.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Oh, so he has to hide? Yeah, so he can't travel to Chile, so they have to do it there. Oh, he beat somebody up in Florida, right? The fight's still on, but they have to take it off Chile. Oh. That card's taking a hit. Damn.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Usman's a monster. He's a monster. But, you know, Damian Maia's a monster on the ground, and Usman's most of his game is the ground. Yeah, it's ground and pound, takedown. Yeah, most of his game. It's going to be very interesting to see. That thing is Big John McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:08:36 It sounds like a shitty fight, I'm going to be honest. Big John McCarthy's a big motherfucker to be interviewing people. You know what I mean? I've seen him interview some flyweights. Yeah, he's a big dude. It's like, yikes. Dylan Dan is about to drop some fire on this mic
Starting point is 00:08:48 because, you know, he takes after Connor a little too much. He's about to drop some pure fire. What is he saying? We got some volume, Jamie? It's not working? Okay, back to the drawing board.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Free seminar. He had that one prepared. That shit talking needs a little work. Remember the seminar one. Don't forget the seminar one. Also Samurai. You're willing to die in there Free seminar He had that one prepared That shit talking Needs a little work Dylan Remember the seminar one Don't forget the seminar one Also Samurai You're willing to die in there
Starting point is 00:09:29 Because we haven't heard that before Yeah never heard that before Come find me bro I'll give you some tips We need We need some work On that shit talking Connors
Starting point is 00:09:36 Bryce sent him text right now Bro Mate Tighten it up mate Find a dolly Find a dolly in the back Yeah Well you know
Starting point is 00:09:44 He's all fucking... That may have been Conor's line. Maybe he wrote it for him. Could be. Tell him you're willing to die. You're willing to die in there, mate. You give him a free seminar? Well, Dylan Downs can be a beast to beat, though, in Bellator.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Well, especially if Bellator gives him the right matchups. Why wouldn't you, though? It's his first fight. Definitely feed him, man. And he's a wrestler, too. He wrestled in, I think he wrestled four or five years growing up. There's some good fights on this card. Okay, Rafael Lovato versus Gerald Harris.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I like that fight. Great fight. That's an interesting fight, man. Roy Nelson versus Mirko Krokop. They've been giving him the testing, son. They've been giving him the testing, son. They've been giving him the testing, apparently.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Do you believe they're testing? When I hear Bellator's testing, I always like, wink, wink. That's like the Olympia.
Starting point is 00:10:34 We get tested, bro-mo. Oh, really? What do you do? Come on. Do you give them like a written test? Yeah, come on.
Starting point is 00:10:40 What did you take today? Nothing. I didn't take nothing. Horrendous. Just horrendous. Dudes are fucking eating hay and snorting.
Starting point is 00:10:50 They're on so much equipoise. Dude, that's like Canelo. He came back. He did that hair fossil sample. But people are saying bullshit, though. Why? I guess the way it was done. Like, how do we know it's his hair?
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's coming from his camp exclusively. Oh, is it? Yeah. It's his trainer. I was like, come on, how do we know it's his hair? It's coming from his camp exclusively. Oh, is it? Yeah. Yeah. It's his trainer. I was like, come on, man. Yeah, it's his – he tested positive for being a 55-year-old trainer. That's a bummer, man, that that fight is down because now he's fighting one of Edmund's boys.
Starting point is 00:11:22 He's fighting – Triple G's fighting – My poor soul took that fucking fight. Some wild-ass Armenian. Have fun with that. He's got an Enian name. One of them Armenian characters. Enjoy that, man. Yeah, well, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:11:38 Glendale in the house. Glendale, enjoy that. Fucking Armenians Love to fight man Yeah they're tough As they come Damn Fedor 36 and 5
Starting point is 00:11:51 Frank Mir 18 and 11 Wow Yeah I mean Fedor He looking Thick Thick
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah he don't look good They need to let him Fight in Japan again Get him on the Right mixture Frank's looking good. I just had Frank on my show. I was like, dude, you are jacked right now.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I was talking about Fedor. I said, I would jump to half guard. He's like, what would you do? I was like, I wouldn't play that striking battle in the first round. Jump to half guard if I had your half guard. He's like, get that fucked up. Fedor's really good on the ground. He's good on top.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And his ground and pound is death. I know. But Frank's head's up. I know, man. Remember the way he did to Noguera? Oh, for sure. In the day. Dude, some of the best.
Starting point is 00:12:28 However, a different game now. Yeah, I'm super suspicious about all those old fights now, though. You know, I'm super suspicious. Preach, brother. Super suspicious. Because then he comes here and just gets fucking ran super suspicious. Like a sorority girl. Well, those Noguera fights, those weren't fake.
Starting point is 00:12:43 No, no, no. That's not what I mean. That's not what I mean. That's not what I mean. I mean steroids. Of course. I mean performance-enhancing drugs. Of course. I mean, we're looking at a different human.
Starting point is 00:12:51 That's what I'm thinking. But aren't you guys just saying Bellator don't really check? We're joking around. They do some check-in. They do have state athletic commissions. They do better than Russia. We know that. Well, then Japan.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Japan was encouraging 100 you know and who knows who was doing what and who wasn't doing what but when you talk to the guys who were over there like ensign anyway and he'll tell you they had it in capital letters in the contract we will not test you for steroids and then you look at vanderley when he weighed 218 when he fought cro-cop he was heavier than cro-cop when he fought Crow Cop. He was heavier than Crow Cop when he fought Crow Cop. I mean, that is just fucking bananas. Yeah, but if you look at that, Joe, you can't say that about the UFC until USADA came in. You definitely can.
Starting point is 00:13:34 You definitely can. But you can up until the point. I think it's a hair less. But TRT days? Pride encouraged it, though. No, not TRT days. You're right about TRT days. Like TRT VTOR, we always rant aboutT days You're right about TRT days Like TRTV tour
Starting point is 00:13:46 We always rant about that TRT That was legal All those boys Yeah Well the guys who were on TRT Including Frank Frank was on TRT for a while
Starting point is 00:13:52 They were telling fighters To go up a weight class Like you know what You need to go up Gain some weight Well they were also telling fighters That we'll let you win You know we know guys
Starting point is 00:14:02 That was K1 Same shit It's Japan You guys talking some Dark web shit right now will let you win. You know, we know, guys. That was K-1. Same shit. It's Japan. You guys talking some dark web shit right now. Yeah. Q-A-9 shit. How dare you ruin my childhood? How dare you?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Probably die tonight. Listen, there was just a lot of shenanigans going on back in the day. But a lot of it was also they were just trying to compete with the UFC and they were trying to do a big business. And it was awesome. It was awesome. It was awesome. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I mean, I got one name for you. Bob Sapp. Oh, fuck. Come on, son. Bob Sapp when he was 375 pounds with abs. I love that. He was so jacked. He was 370 with abs.
Starting point is 00:14:42 370. And, like, not bad cardio. Wasn't bad. Not bad. Oh, he was on like, not bad cardio. Wasn't bad. Not bad. Oh, he was on everything, though, bro. Every drug they had. Everything. They made.
Starting point is 00:14:49 All the EPOs and the EPIs and the EPAs. He was on the Environmental Protection Agency, the DEA, the FBI, the CIA. He was so big. He stood out so big in Japan. He was so big. He couldn't go anywhere. Well, you remember when he was, like, a super-duper star big in Japan. He couldn't go anywhere. Well, you remember when he was like a super duper star over in Japan? But then there was a situation with, I believe it was K-1.
Starting point is 00:15:14 They wanted him to sign a contract after he fought. And he was like, I want the contract before I fucking fight, man. Like, I got to see the contract. And they're like, you know, you fight and then contract. He was like, fuck you. This is crazy. So he walked out of the fight. And he was done after that.
Starting point is 00:15:32 He was the main event. He was lucky he didn't get dealt with. Yeah, he was lucky he didn't get Yakuza'd. Yakuza style. Yeah. Look at this, 57%. Chael thinks. How about Chael has to fight the winner of this?
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah. That's crazy. Dude, how good did Chael look against Rampage He looked fucking good His wrestling is always good He prepares He's smart I mean
Starting point is 00:15:52 Say what you want about Chael Sonnen You know That guy is always prepared Neiman Gracie Ooh This is interesting I don't know anything about Javier Torres Do you know anything about Javier Torres
Starting point is 00:16:03 Hopefully his Jiu Jitsu is good Yeah Probably not as good as Neiman Gracie's Hmm I don't know anything about Javier Torres. Do you know anything about Javier Torres? Hopefully his jiu-jitsu is good. Yeah. Probably not as good as even Gracie's. Hmm. Interesting. I mean, no one could say anything. Look, whatever everybody was on back then, Fedor was still beating everybody's ass. So if they were all on the same shit, Fedor was still beating everybody's ass.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah, but the caveat to that is when he came over to the U.S., he got dealt with with our guys. Yes, pretty quickly. He struggled with Brett Rogers, right? Struggled a little bit with him. Gets dealt with with Dan Henderson. Henderson dealt with him. Dan Henderson beat the fuck out of him. He beat Orlovsky.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Bigfoot Silva fucked him up. Yeah, he beat Orlovsky. He beat Tim Sylvia Orlovsky over there. But he beat Orlovsky. He beat Orlovsky in affliction. There was no testing in affliction. That affliction thing was the wild, wild west. They were T-shirt guys throwing a huge event.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Wasn't Arlovsky in the air when he got hit? Yep. He threw a flying knee. He was winning the fight. He was whooping his ass through a flying knee. He was dealing with him in the stand-up, and then he did something real stupid, and he got clipped with a haymaker. That was such a crazy knockout, too. That was such a cool fight.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Because Arlovsky front kicked him to the gut. It was sick. He was boxing him up. He looked good. Arlovsky looked good. But he did something really nutty and then all of a sudden, boom, the bomb dropped. So Fader, Tim Silva under Arlovsky. Tim Silva fight was amazing.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Good fight. That was amazing. Great fight. He looked like Fedor in that fight. Correct. And then the strike force, then you got Elite XC, right? And you got Brett Rogers, Dan Henderson, Basel Silva, Verdum. Was it Elite XC?
Starting point is 00:17:31 Was it Elite XC when he fought Brett Rogers? I want to say it's Strikeforce. I think it's Strikeforce. I think Elite XC was just Kimbo. I don't think Fedor. Brett Rogers was Elite XC. Am I going crazy? I think you think Fedor. Brett Rogers was the lead XC. Am I going crazy? I think you're going crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Because remember Strikeforce, Brett Rogers fought Overeem. When Overeem was Oobereem, and Overeem fucked him up. He hit him with a leg kick like 15, 20 seconds into the fight. One of those thudding Holland-style leg kicks. And you see Brett Rogers' face like, oh, shit. That's not a snowflake. No. Overeem hit him with's not a snowflake. No. Overeem hit him with some tech-nick.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah. Hit him with that real tech-nick. That's why the argument for Stipe being the best heavyweight of all time is a legit argument, because he's fought clean, he's never been nothing. Well, he's defended the UFC title, which is the hardest title to defend, in terms of historically. No one's defended
Starting point is 00:18:26 it more than him. He defended it three times. Nobody else beat two. The only issue with that, if you want to argue against Deep, and I'm not, I think he's the best all time, him or Kane, but if you want to argue that, you can say, well, the guys he's beat aren't in their prime. That's a good point. That's a good point. I think that's true.
Starting point is 00:18:42 What? There's a Scientology network? What? Curious? Scientology network? What? Curious? Yeah, they just started it recently. Get the fuck out of here. And they're advertising it on Paramount? Holy shit. Curious? Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Desperate is Paramount. Well, they might be paying. They got that's Tom Cruise money, son. Yeah. You ever drive by a Scientology building? I drove by it last night. I was like, oh. I got the test once.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I wanted in there. I got the test. I went to one of those things. No, you didn't. I got the test. I want in in there. I got the test. I went to one of those things. No, you didn't. I held the cans. Yeah. I was filming a TV show for CBS and we were outside in San Diego. And while we had some downtime, they had this thing set up like a stress test.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And you go and you hold on to these cans and they ask you questions. I think I want to say Brian did stand up in there. Don't ask me to go up there and do. Either did stand up or like a TED talk or some shit in Scientology building. Really? Yeah, he did something weird in there. Someone asked me to go up there and do – either did stand-up or like a TED Talk or some shit in a Scientology building. Really? Yeah, he did something weird in there. Is there a TED Talk? Yeah, he did something weird.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Well, he was taking acting lessons with a guy who was a rabid Scientologist. And then I went to see Brian's acting teacher sing songs from musicals. Not even a musical, just the songs from musicals. Not even a musical. Just the songs from the musical. Sounds horrible. It was amazing. It was great. Me and Brian were high as Jesus on the space shuttle.
Starting point is 00:19:55 We were gone. We were hugging each other while it was going on. We couldn't believe how ridiculous it was. We were like, oh! He either did a motivational talk or stand up there, though. Well, he was, you know. Which is epic. There's a thing about acting classes.
Starting point is 00:20:11 A lot of, my ex-girlfriend, one of her acting classes when I first moved to LA and I started dating this chick who was an actress, her acting class was a Scientology-based acting class. And apparently it's really common. There's a lot, or at least it was at the time. Isn't the gig kind of up with everything coming out with that Leah Ramey or whatever her name is? Leah Remini. Yeah, it should be.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Like, the gig's up. It should be. Like, now there's the internet. There's podcasts going on, which are full of shit it is. You know, some people are just dying to get took. They're just dying. I mean, so is like, yo, Brenton, you can be the next fucking Expendables 7. You just got to jump into the Scientology. I'd probably check it out's like, yo, Brenton, you can be the next fucking expendable seven.
Starting point is 00:20:45 You just gotta jump into the Scientology. I'd probably check it out. Well, it happens with girls. With girls, apparently, they come to them and they'll arrange boyfriend situations and wedding situations. That's what happened with Tommy Cruise, right? Allegedly. Katie Holmes. Allegedly. She said, fuck that noise. Now she's with
Starting point is 00:21:01 Jamie Foxx. What's up? I work for E. What's up? What? I work for E. What's up? What's up? Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. Oh, shit. Jamie Foxx laying it down. Down. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Shit, fuck you, talkers. Yeah. Yeah. Shit. Tom Cruise is laying low right now. He apparently did some crazy- ass stunt for Mission Impossible where they had a film it like a hundred times did you see it no Jamie hit it you didn't see it he jumped from a bit from building to building that he does all his
Starting point is 00:21:35 own stunts he is a badass he does all his own stunts if even when he's flying out of the helicopter he doesn't let anyone else do it he's jumping from building a building and he just barely misses it and from another building going down he lands foot first like into the building and his fucking ankle goes, ka! It's like Jackie Chan. He broke his ankle. Broke his shit and he's like, ka! He still like
Starting point is 00:21:55 finishes the take. Yeah. He's like mm-mm, mm-mm. And they had to stop filming. Wow, I need to see this. He's a bit of a badass. And he's 50, what? Three? I don't know, man. He's not young. He's not bit of a badass. And he's 50 what? Three? I don't know, man. He's not young. He's not young.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Kind of killing it, though. Listen, that Scientology shit is real. It's got him convinced. It's real, son. We need to see this. That Al Hubbard shit. It's got him convinced. How do they have so much power in Hollywood? How does that work?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Just Tom Cruise alone. Money. Him and John Travolta. He's got this cord attached to him. Boom! Oh, shit! Watch this angle. Boom! Oh, shit! Watch this angle. Boom!
Starting point is 00:22:28 Yo, that is crazy. But you're Tom Cruise. Look at this. You goosh! Oh, shit! Snapped his shit, son. Damn. You know what?
Starting point is 00:22:39 I'm going to see Mission Impossible 19 or other fuckers just because of that. Oh, shit. God damn. He finishes it like a baller. That's top gun, son. Goddamn. That's quite a jump, too. That's quite a distance.
Starting point is 00:22:54 You know all the scenes in the helicopters and all that where he's hanging out? That's all him. And he's white. See that jump? White men can jump white man can jump they can he can he had a rope
Starting point is 00:23:08 he definitely had a rope that's true there was cords on him but if that rope wasn't there he would have lived right he made it
Starting point is 00:23:15 he actually made it I don't know the rope didn't help him you don't think they kind of like no no no no watch it again play it again
Starting point is 00:23:21 I don't know if there's no rope if he makes that does the rope kind of hold him back yeah yeah the rope's carrying him no rope if he makes that. Does the rope kind of hold him back? Yeah, yeah. The rope's carrying him. The rope's carrying him?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah. Oh, so the rope's assisting him? Yeah, for sure. All right, let me see. Yeah, for sure. It looked like the rope was behind him. Yeah. I thought the rope was just to catch him.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Cautionary. Because the rope, like, that's a weird thing. The rope is assisting him. Like, man, how do you even plan that? That's kind of cool. The rope kind of catapults you. Well, maybe assist more so he doesn't break his fucking ankle. The rope is behind him. Man, how do you even plan that? That's kind of cool. The rope kind of catapults you. Maybe assist more so he doesn't break his fucking ankle. The rope is behind him. No, the rope's behind him.
Starting point is 00:23:49 That rope is not helping. Oh, and there's one above him, too. There's two. Yeah, yeah, you're right. It's also to catch him so he doesn't fall all the way down and die. Yeah, well, that's what it's for. That's what my point was. I still think he has hops. I still think he has a little bit of athletic ability. I bet it looked like his Achilles tendon tore off.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. That looks like the ropes carrying him. I bet he has drugs that we don't even know about to fix that ankle. Yeah, they get that from Mars. They get that shit from, they pull it out of the fake rocks that they pull out of Mars. Here's another one. Let me see the other one. He hung on the side of the plane.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Well, that's fun. And is he attached with a rope too? Yeah, a little bit, but. Still though though what other a-lister does this shit he still really gets taken off he's hanging there that's nuts that's fucking nuts that's bananas that's crazy he has a rope though right you know you'd be surprised you'd be surprised at how hard it is to hang for long periods of time you know when i hurt my shoulder and I started hanging, you know, just holding on to a bar and hang, I was stunned at how little. How weak you are? You know, I do a lot of chin-ups, but I can't hold on for more than like two minutes.
Starting point is 00:24:55 It's something you have to condition for sure. You've got to really condition the shit out of yourself. You think you're going to like save your ass and like hang on the side of a plane? No, you're screwed. No, you're dead. You can't do it. Oh, damn. Why'd you push the camera away like that?
Starting point is 00:25:07 He's like, get out of my face, bitch. You got that camera too close to me. I'm about to choke someone out, son. We had a Fear Factor episode once where people had to hang from, there was a bridge and there was a bar on the bridge. It was men and women. And you hung as long as you could hold it until you dropped into the water. And the girls beat the guys.
Starting point is 00:25:24 How long were they holding? Because they're lighter. Do you remember? Not very long. Not very long. A few minutes. No. No.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Oh, wow. No, I don't think anybody beat like two minutes and 20 seconds or some shit. Here we go. Neiman Gracie, ready to choke a motherfucker. That's how I saw him fight was on that Newark, uh, Metz Square garden card. I think it's Henzo's nephew. Yeah. Correct.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah. He looks hyper aggressive. He looks like a Henzo nephew. Big kid, man. And so the other guy is Javier Torres. Is that his name? Does it say his name?
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Did you see Roy McDonald asking Ben Askren to sign with Bellator? Yeah. And Ben Askren wants to do it, too. Ben Askren still owes fights with 1FC, though.
Starting point is 00:26:14 So they would have to do some sort of a co-promotion. He's under contract with them? Yeah, he owes two fights. He owes two fights with 1FC. Hey, 1FC, I know you're listening. Do us all a solid. Do all the hardcores a solid. Let them out, man.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I'm never going to let them out. What they would do is they would co-promote. And it's possible. Not if he wants to fight in the UFC. It's possible. Oh, hell. The UFC co-promote with 1FC? It would have to be favorable conditions with the UFC where they just make some sort of a deal.
Starting point is 00:26:42 With 1FC can stream it or some shit? It would have to be something. Or they give them a piece of the revenue, but it would have to be a very small piece. The odds are already against him to sign with the UFC. And then you go, all right, now you've got to make this deal with 1FC. And Dana's going to kick rocks, man. Well, what he should do is he should get out of that contract. That's what he should do.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And just smoke two dudes real fast? Yeah, just smash two dudes. Just give me two cans. He's the can crusher over there. Rich Franklin's the guy who does the, how do you call him, can crusher? Matt Hume is, too. Matt Hume's a part of 1FC as well. Those fellas know what's up.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Let's get one of the greatest fights of all time rolling, my man. Well, who would you have him fight? Woodley? His friends with Woodley. They're training partners. I'd have him fight GSP first, and then I'd have him fight Khabib. Do you think GSP would take that fight? Khabib.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But nobody knows who Askren is outside of the hardcore fans. He said he would. Khabib said he would. Khabib wants to go to 70, yeah. Yeah. Khabib wants to fight at 70. Oh, shit. That is the fight I want to see.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Khabib, was he? No, Askren. Oh, me too. Askren, Khabib is what I would want to see. That's my number one fight. Because good luck taking GSP down. Just good luck. And good luck standing with him too.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You know, the stand-up, there's a big gap between Ben Askren's stand-up and GSP's stand-up. There's a big gap between Ben Askren's grappling and GSP's grappling. It's true. Big gap. It's true. It's an amazing fight. There's a big gap between what? Ben Askren's grappling and GSP's grappling. Really? There's a big gap? fight. There's a big gap between what? Ben Askren's grappling and GSP's grappling.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Really? There's a big gap? Yes. There's a big gap. Ben Askren's a legit Olympian. Legit Olympian. Wait, wait. GSP?
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yeah. GSP and Askren, big gap. Yep. If they wrestle, Askren rolls them up. I don't know about that, but okay. Think how good Woodley is, and ask Woodley. The GSP has more takedowns in UFC history. You're right.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But he never fought a guy at the level of Askren when it comes to wrestling. My opinion. The best guy he fought. He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu. No, you're right. If it gets to the ground. The best guy he fought as far as wrestling credentialed was probably Josh Koscheck. Yeah, my thought would be that GSP would never let the fight go to the ground.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Look at these leg locks. Look at these leg locks. Look at these leg locks. Oh, he's doubled up, too. Look at this. That dude's in trouble. That dude's in trouble. You can't let him single it over. It's crazy how leg locks are now making their way much more prominently in MMA now.
Starting point is 00:28:59 You're seeing much more leg lock action. Unless you're focused on it, I feel like, okay, you're fighting Dylan Danis. Oh, you have six weeks to get ready for that? You're not going to learn the leg lock game. Is that fair, Eddie? No. There's no way, right? He's fucked. No. If you're going against a high-level leg locker, it's going to take you four years to catch him. Right? So these guys, they're so far behind, they're like, fuck, Dylan Danis,
Starting point is 00:29:18 let's work on leg locks. It's too late. Here it is, son. He's doing the right thing. Yeah. But his both legs are tied up, man. He's so stuck. That's such a gross feeling. You could do it in two years. It doesn't have to be four years.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Average. Two years if you're the good coach. If you're going to try to battle someone at like, you know, Henzo Gracie guy leg lock level, it's going to take you at least two years to stalemate. At least. And you've got to be training every goddamn. Yeah got to be trying every goddamn yeah you guys aren't doing that yeah that's the thing with MMA is generally in MMA leg locks were thought of as a technique you don't really ever need to even focus on because it just in MMA there were too
Starting point is 00:29:59 many people have gotten knocked out going for leg lock so the general consensus is don't really worry about leg locks in MMA. They're too dangerous anyways. But you can get knocked out. It is dangerous in MMA, but they still work. You just got to know which leg lock positions are the safest. And if nothing else is working out, if you can't take the guy down, he's beating your ass, and it's the third round.
Starting point is 00:30:23 You lost the first two rounds. It's the last round. Going for a a heel hook it might be a great idea and if you practice them and if you're good at them you have hope in that last round you know what i mean yeah don't necessarily go for leg locks right away because it is risky see if you could take him down first see if you can get on top and pass his guard see if you can get his back if you can't and it's too dangerous then at some point your coach is, and you got to decide, okay, it's time to go to plan B, plan C,
Starting point is 00:30:49 and leg locks should always be the last resort. You know, remember Marco Huas against Gary Goodridge? Gary Goodridge was beating his ass the whole fight. Last 45 seconds, Marco Huas pulls out a heel hook. That's what we used to call them, remember? Hail Mary heel hooks? Hail Mary heel hooks. That was the thing. That's what we used to call them. Remember? Hail Mary heel hooks. Hail Mary heel hooks.
Starting point is 00:31:07 That's what we used to call heel hooks. Hail Mary heel hooks. The last resort. It was like one of those things. Remember Paul O'Hara? He was the one that really made it famous for a while. But then he was getting fucked up when he fought Alan Belcher. He was a black belt.
Starting point is 00:31:19 He was just like, I'm going to sit down on this and just punch you in the face. Well, Belcher really prepared for that. He's also a black belt. When you get to the point with your leg locks where you've been in the fire for a couple years, two, three, four years, and you're really good at leg locks and you're going against someone else at that same level, leg locks probably aren't going to be the deciding factor in that fight.
Starting point is 00:31:35 They're going to nullify. If you're going against a guy who's really good at defending and he has good wrestling and good punches, shit, you might want to stay away from leg locks. It all depends. It's the matchup. Who did Belcher bring in for his leg lock training?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Because he brought in someone really good. Davi Ramos. That's right. And Dean Lister. Yeah, Dean Lister is the one I remember. He brought him in and had, he said it was just two months, one month, two months of every day
Starting point is 00:32:01 them attacking his legs and that's all he needed. Davi Ramos is fighting 55 in the UFC right isn't he I believe he's fighting 55
Starting point is 00:32:11 that's a bad motherfucker he's a bad motherfucker his jiu jitsu is top of the food chain he won Abu Dhabi in 2015 he had a sick
Starting point is 00:32:21 flying arm bar in one of his matches the way Torres just fell down makes me think that his knee might be jacked. His knee might be a little shaky. He looked wobbly the way he fell down. That looked weird.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Bellator ratings have been rough, rough lately. Have they been? Rough, rough. So hopefully this one's better. It's good for MMA in general. You know, when Bellator and UFC is doing good for MMA in general, it's good. Well, for MMA in general, we need big cards. I mean, it really needs to get more people watching.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And these are entertaining fights. And there's no reason why more people shouldn't be watching. I think they got a real problem with their name. I've said this forever. The name is stupid. But even UFC, which is a great name, their ratings suck too sometimes. Sometimes. I don't think the name matters.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I don't think it matters at all. I don't think it matters with bands and music. Oh, how dare you? It doesn't matter. You like Hootie and the Blowfish? You like that name? Yeah, I do. Yeah, where are they today?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Flogging Molly. You like that? I do. It doesn't bother me. You like that? It works. You know what? It doesn't matter if you like it because it works.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Smashing Pumpkins. If you weren't used to it, you would think, if they never existed. That's an awesome band. That's a great name. No, no. Out of all of them. Because you're used to it. You don't realize it because you're used to it. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I wish you a flogging, Molly. Smashing Pumpkins, though. Smashing Pumpkins is a great name. Listen, I love, Smashing Pumpkins is one of my favorite bands all the time. I know they are. But if they never existed and I told you my new band's called smashing pumpkins you would say dude You got to change your mother. Oh, I would love it. I would love it Billy Corgan's a cool motherfucker man. Let me tell you I had him on the pot. Yeah, he's great on the podcast
Starting point is 00:33:54 Oh normal. I love that guy. They're at the forum. We should go that the form in October. Let's do it. Let's go Make it happen, you know him. Text him. Can you text Billy Corgan? Fuck no. Are you able to text him? I have to email him. I don't know. Email his assistant. Damn.
Starting point is 00:34:12 You know, that's one podcast I wish I would have been here for. God, that one and the Paul Stanley one, shit. I wish I could have been here. What was that? Are you a Tool fan? Did you ever meet Maynard? Did I ever introduce you to Maynard? I never met Maynard.
Starting point is 00:34:23 No. God, they would get along because he's a jiu-jitsu guy, too. Maynard's a jiu-jitsu freak. I know his friends very well. I think he's got his brown belt. I'm pretty sure he's got his brown belt right now. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, he's a pervert a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:34:33 But he comes in town for seminars. He goes to Dynamics, like Henry Aikens' place. Yeah. He goes to seminars down there. I know his friends very well. I just don't know him. He's a great guy. Maynard is one of the smartest people I know, man.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Wicked smart. Does he own a wrestling league? Yeah. No, no. That's Billy Corgan. Billy Corgan owns the NWA. Is that it? He's balls deep into it.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah, he loves pro wrestling. Or does he own TNT? One of those. Oh, look at this. Look at this. That's it. Arm triangle. Game over.
Starting point is 00:35:03 That's it. That's a wrap, son. Tappity tap. I'm telling you, we're getting all submissions tonight. That's it. Arm triangle. Game over. That's it. That's a wrap, son. Tappity tap. I'm telling you, we're getting all submissions tonight. That's nice. Well, Lovato and Gerald Harris is going to be a difficult one. I bet you it's a submission. All super excited.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Very good. I'm good. Yeah, I'm good, too. I might be over good. Over good. Oh, no. Yeah, Billy Corbin, he was digging wrestling. He loves pro wrestling.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Loves it. He's a funny guy, man. He's a really smart dude. He's such a savage, man. Such a monster. Maynard's not into pro wrestling, but what Maynard is into, he owns a vineyard and a restaurant. He's fucking crazy into wine, man. He talked about wine for a solid hour on your podcast.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Dude, he's a wizard. He's a wine wizard. That's why you do that. God damn it, bro. Talk about wars on fucking tours. Wars on tours. I thought you were going to say the nice thing and say, yeah, it was interesting. Not for me, brother.
Starting point is 00:36:02 He's a fascinating guy, but I'm all set on what? He's got the clamp. Oh, you're screwed, man. Yeah, that's a tight guy, but I'm all set on one. He's got the clamp. Oh, you're screwed, man. Yeah, that's a tight one, baby. Yeah. You see how he manipulates those legs? That guy's done that to a lot of fucking people. At this point, he could have defended right here if he would have just brought his legs up and hooked his own left leg.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And turn away, yeah? He could have just went like this. And turn away, yeah. Now, when guys do that, though, you go to the impaler, right? You have to go to the back. Yeah, but you got to do that before. But when a guy grabs his legs, do you still go to the impaler? I've seen you.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I've seen you separate guys' legs. At that point, I rarely do an arm triangle not mounted. Rarely. I stay in the mount. Why do you stay in the mount not the one side because because that one defense i was just telling you hooking your own leg you can't do it from the mountain that stops all arm triangles there's you're forced to go to another submission which you're forced to take the back you kind of give up your back but the guy who is
Starting point is 00:36:58 about to get tapped wins he gets another chance guys on your back but that choke was in deep when you um when you tap a guy from the mount or when you go to the arm triangle from the mount what percentage of effectiveness do you think it is in comparison to going like like a clock like fully out you may there may be some added torque in the twist but if you go butter mount which is putting your butterflies on top and you extend you get you don't need you don't need to get on the side. So is it just a new movement you have to master? Well, it all
Starting point is 00:37:29 depends on your opponent. If he knows this defense, someone puts you in an arm triangle like this is caught, all I have to do is just bring this leg up, get inverted and go boom, and there's no way you're going to tap. See, this is the thing. I've seen you separate guys legs when you were really into the impaler.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And I know I've done it to guys that aren't very good, but I've seen you when you were really into the impaler for a while. No one did that, though. The impaler being... No one did the defense. The defense is what I'm talking about. Yeah, the defense of grabbing your leg. Nobody did that? Not back
Starting point is 00:38:01 in the day, because everybody was laying down... The way he did the arm triangle where he's like laying inside control flat on his back you it obviously works people are tapping but it's easy to defend if the guy knew it if the guy sees it coming as soon as as soon as this arm's in trouble boom you're right here that's interesting maybe i'm confusing you with somebody else i i had because i know I know during your when you there was a whole run When a lot of us were into the impaler and then you also started putting it down where you would put the shin to the hip And really stretch a guy out. Yeah. Yeah, but Jesus but what do you with Jesus and look at that cut? Oh Shit, whose cut is that? Damn cage warriors today. Oh, my God. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:45 That's an eyebrow. That's a full eyebrow. You can see his skull. That's one of the biggest I've ever seen. Jesus Christ. Because I remember arguing with somebody about it when someone was saying that you can't separate a guy's hands like that. I'm like, how long do you think you can hold your hands?
Starting point is 00:39:02 We need mats in here, dude. No, we do. Maybe cameras. You can put a mat right there. But here's the thing. I have new mats coming, so we can do that. Just right here. All you need is cameras. Demonstrate the defense. You could dive right in the middle of a mat. That'd be sick. People don't know what
Starting point is 00:39:18 we're talking about. No, we will do that. We're going to have that. Because there's new mats coming in because the mats that I'm getting from Fuji, the grappling ones are too slippery. They don't have any texture to them. You got zebra. I'm getting new zebras, man. I like zebra.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Those are the best. I like zebra. I have zebra in my office. Those are the best by far. I'm getting all new zebras. But Fuji makes a real good one with a texture for striking. So for kicking and stuff, I need some texture. I can't, but on the ground, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:39:47 So I'm going to take the ones from the ground and I'm going to split them. Well, you need the texture for passing too. If you're getting all sweaty, you need the texture. Yeah. Because the mats I have now, everybody complains that they, everyone's slipping. They're too slippery. They're too slippery. They're made for wrestling because the mats I have are made for wrestling and wrestlers
Starting point is 00:40:04 have shoes. So it's not an issue But when you're going When you're going barefoot And doing jujitsu And it gets sweaty After like three or four rounds Passing becomes impossible
Starting point is 00:40:13 It's like passing on ice Is it hot in here? I'm having a heart attack You guys are sweating too You're having a heart attack We're good You look good though But if you feel the zebras
Starting point is 00:40:21 They're made They're made For barefoot Traction We got a thermostat in here That'd be fucking glorious Zebras are Yeah But if you feel the zebras, they're made for barefoot traction. We got a thermostat in here. That'd be fucking glorious. Zebras are, yeah. Yeah, the zebras is what they put in my gym.
Starting point is 00:40:32 My gym at home. Yeah. But these out here, the Fuji's, the smooth ones, man, it's not good for kicking. Like when I'm kicking, I'm slipping around a lot. It's dangerous. Well, especially for spinning. When I spin, I need traction. I have to have something where I'm slipping around a lot. It's dangerous. Well, especially for spinning. When I spin, I need traction. I have to have something where I can push my foot off.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I can't, like with round kicks, you can kind of get away with it because if your foot slips, your whole body's just kind of moving. So what kind of mats you got coming in? You already got it all hooked up? Yeah, it's already, they're out there. I'll show them to you. Oh, okay. Yeah, the other Fuji's.
Starting point is 00:41:01 They're Fuji's, but they're tatami mats. So they have, it's a pretty strong mats. It's a pretty strong texture. Why did you decide to go with those over Zebra? Most people are using Zebra. Jimmy Pedro. Jimmy Pedro went over to there, and he did my first place. Olympic judo master. He's a bad motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:41:18 He did my other place. And so when he moved there, I just went with him there. I like them. I just don't think they're the right thing for what I do. But the tatami ones with the heavy texture is perfect. For kickboxing, I mean, you really, I need, especially if I'm really sweaty and I'm throwing like spin kicks and shit like that, I am not in the mood to blow my knee out. A lot of my students blame the mats when they have a bad day and I'm sitting there and they're having a bad day.
Starting point is 00:41:47 They're like, these fucking mats. Fuck these mats. They all get together in a corner and go, yeah, it's the mats, right? Yeah. When are we getting new mats, coach? Wear shoes, bro. G-Con, I guilty to fucking mat, bro. It's these fucking mats. They make fun of the HQ mats. That's funny. They do.
Starting point is 00:42:03 But no more. In two weeks, I get new mats. That's funny. They do. But no more. In two weeks I get new mats. Remember when I just had pads put down with a cloth a nylon top stretched across them. Remember? We got those dudes to do it. Yeah, those are still done.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Yeah, those can get slippery. Super slippery. It was loose too. The problem with that was it wasn't tight It's like remember the old Headquarters for Gracie jiu-jitsu and torrents. Yeah, they have that massive floor the giant the green. Yeah That's exactly what I had so it's like it's never so slippery never tight it's never totally tight. So slippery. Never tight. It's never really tight. Dude, am I crazy to think Bader's the dark horse to win the heavyweight tournament? Oh, he can win it.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Look, Bader's still very, very good. And not that King Mo's not. King Mo can fucking punch. And he, at one point in time at least, was a world-class wrestler. King Mo was a beast of a wrestler. Oh, he still is. One of the best I've ever seen. But he's had some injuries, man. And he had
Starting point is 00:43:06 really, really bad staff. I think the staff got him at least twice. I know he got it once, but I want to say he got it twice real bad. He had real bad staff. Like, come on, man. Bader's probably at the top of his game right now. Yeah, Bader's in his prime. When he beat Phil, I was
Starting point is 00:43:22 like, holy shit, he beat Phil Davis. And he took him down a bunch of times. He's at the top of his game. He's at the top of his game. Look at that heavyweight division tournament. Bader's my dark horse, man. He is a legit world-class fighter that is actually probably
Starting point is 00:43:38 at his best right now. I would say that Ryan Bader right now is in his prime. Here's the thing, though. Even in his prime, he's not at the level of John. And that was over in the UFC. Oh, no. But who is, though? Who is?
Starting point is 00:43:51 Well, Daniel. Maybe Gus Sussman? I don't know. I mean, DC is close. You know, DC put up a good fight the first time. And the second time, it was a good fight until John had kicked up. Gus Sussman put up a better fight. He did.
Starting point is 00:44:04 The speculation is that John barely trained for that fight. John trained for two hours for that fight and showed up. Literally, if at all. That's how good he is. Correct. But when John fought Ryan, you were like, okay, this is a gap. He cradled him like a baby. You remember that?
Starting point is 00:44:16 There's a gap that you go, ooh, how are you going to cross that gap? You know what I mean? But even if you're DC, you've got to be thinking, and you know I love DC. Even with DC, you have to be thinking, how can I cross that gap? He's 40. It's true. He's going to be 40. It's true.
Starting point is 00:44:28 It's true. Look, I can't disagree with you, but DC at least was competitive in that fight before he got head kicked. It was a competitive fight. He was putting a lot of pressure on John. It's true. It was interesting. It was interesting. This is a good card right here.
Starting point is 00:44:42 But John set him up. It is a good card. Ooh. Paul Daly versus John Fitz. Jesus Christ! That's a good card, but John set him up. It is a good card. Whoo Paul Daly versus John Fitz Jesus Christ, that's a good fight man. Holy shit Aaron Pico. Do you see his last win? That left hook to the chin it was like a little fucking he's a beast He's a beast. He's so god. I think losing that first fight is probably the best thing that could happen to him Yeah, just he doesn't train with you guys does he for that first fight? He did best thing that could have ever happened to him. He doesn't train with you guys, does he?
Starting point is 00:45:06 For that first fight, he did. He's a 10th Planet guy, right? Not anymore. Oh, not anymore. He was. And then after he lost, I think... They blamed it on that. Dylan Dennis has a dope tattoo.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I don't know. He just never came back. Dylan Dennis' tattoo is fucking sweet. Like, whoever did that, that's like a real artist. They nailed that. That nailed that dragon yeah it's really good man that's like aaron della vadova style like look how good that dragon is man like what i'm talking about too is not just the image but the way it's lined up like the the use of space like when you see a real good tattoo artist one of the things they do is they really, they fill up the space the right way.
Starting point is 00:45:48 The right amount of darkness, the right amount of lightness, the contrast. But it fits the body, that part of the body. It fits perfect. Sometimes I wish I could go back because now I feel like tattoo artists are so much better. They're so good. The styles are so much different. I get like the Prius of tattoos instead of you know it's way better well you could laser that shit off you know oh fuck i don't know no i wouldn't i'd go
Starting point is 00:46:09 with none i'd go with none none yeah i love tattoos man i do too i do too i feel like i have to cover them i believe you i don't know why but i do i love that dylan dennis style of tattoo too that's a dope tattoo that's my favorite favorite style, those big-ass, modern, Japanese-looking things. I always cover my man. I mean, not around you guys. If I'm doing stand-up on TV, I always cover him. I do for stand-up. You're ashamed.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Yeah. Probably the only time people see him when I'm not is on this podcast, honestly. If it's one of my—well, no, even during my shows, I cover him. Weigh-ins. Weigh-ins, I'll wear a T-shirt. That's one thing the UFC's been doing. It's bold cotton. Making cool t-shirts for each Reebok.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I make a cool t-shirt for each place you go to. Have you been wearing those? Sometimes I wear them. I wore the Boston one. You rocked the Onyx one. Yeah. You rocked the Onyx one, though. Usually, but I wore the Boston one.
Starting point is 00:47:00 They made a dope one. It was green with a bumblebee. It looked like a bumblebee with gloves on. At the UFC's backstage, who is the head honcho walking around? Is there someone above Dana that's walking around and hanging out backstage? Or is Dana the top? Well, Dana's always running the show. For sure.
Starting point is 00:47:17 But is there like, oh, shit, that's... The golden snitch, right? Nowitzki's the guy everyone's kind of like, well, no, no. He means running the show. No, no, not running. No, no, no, he means like running the show. No, no, not running it. No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:47:26 just walking around, hanging out. There's nobody up up there walking around, hanging out. No, Dean is the president, man,
Starting point is 00:47:32 and Ari is so busy. Ari owns that bitch. Ari's not even, he's not backstage. Oh, no, no, but when he comes there,
Starting point is 00:47:37 it's very brief and he comes for the fights or he comes to the weigh-ins. He goes, do you know how fucking busy that dude must be? He's in and out. You just don't, the UFC says side check. Yeah, not even. He goes, do you know how fucking busy that dude must be? He's in and out. You just don't...
Starting point is 00:47:45 No, the UFC says side check. Yeah. Not even. He just checks in, gets his dick sun-kneed. It's a big company. It's a business they put together with a bunch of celebrities
Starting point is 00:47:55 bought into it. It's a real big deal. Yes, and what celebrities? What celebrities? A lot of people bought into it. I would have to look at a list. Ben Affleck. A lot of people bought into it. Ben would have to look at a list. Ben Affleck. A lot of people bought into it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Ben Affleck is part owner of the UFC. Well, I don't ask questions, honestly. I really don't. I ask a lot of questions. I work there. I've been working there forever. I ask almost no questions. Just do your shit.
Starting point is 00:48:19 This is what I ask. What are you going to do with this guy? What are you going to do with that? You want no match-ups. And they're like, you can't tell anybody this. This is where we're working. I'm like, oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:48:27 That's the questions I ask for Dana. I never ask questions about business or who bought this. I don't have enough room in my brain to give a fuck about other people's business. I have zero interest in other people's business. I mean, literally zero, especially with the UFC. I don't give a fuck. I just want to know who's fighting. Who's fighting who?
Starting point is 00:48:47 What are you going to do? I'm not like, how much is this guy going to make? What percentage does he own? What's he doing? How's he going to make his money back? What kind of financial return on his investment is he going to get?
Starting point is 00:48:57 I don't give a fuck about that. See, but when they say those celebrities are owners, it's just like a business move. They might not be into the UFC. It's just as far as money, like their investment. People are into getting famous people to invest in shit, too.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It's a fun thing. LL Cool J? Is that LL Cool J? Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, it's just. There you go. There's Mike Beltran. He owns it, too.
Starting point is 00:49:19 They don't have any say. Mike Beltran got the best fucking mustache in the game ever. Adam Levine owns a piece of the pie How about Nick Newell? Is this for real? Anthony Kiedis, there we go Avril Lavigne owns a piece of the UFC Damn
Starting point is 00:49:34 So a lot of people bought into it Oh, Adam Levine I thought it was Avril Lavigne I'm like, what the fuck is she doing in the fight game? So what they do is they, you know, they probably, everybody chips in a little bit. Man, that's so stressful. They just give them stock. They just give them stock.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Is that what they do? Michael Bay. Are you sure? Pretty sure. You sure they didn't chip in? I don't think they'd chip in. Well, why would they give them stock for? What would they give them stock for?
Starting point is 00:49:59 Because they own the business, right? They're not getting cash from those guys, I don't think. Well, then why would they? Why would they do that? Why would they give them a piece of the business for no reason they'd have to give them money I don't know see this is why I don't know this I don't like this why I don't doing this I don't like doing this I don't know we're doing it we're doing what I'm saying is I don't like wondering who's paying what or how they're doing no I don't want to hear
Starting point is 00:50:24 about it now we, we like it. We like it. You know what? That's one of the things I've found as I've gotten older especially is to concentrate on less things. God bless you. Other things, just put them aside.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Put them aside. Concentrate on less things. You can get better at the things you really enjoy. There's only so many things you can think of. There's only so many things. If you of. There's only so many things. If you spend your time worrying about other people's nonsense, you're robbing yourself. You think it's fun, but it's really a big fat distraction. You know what it is?
Starting point is 00:50:55 It's not even your life, right? So you're thinking about things that are going on in other people's lives. And you're doing it because you're not giving 100% to your life. And there's some stress involved in that. And so to distract yourself from that stress, you concentrate on other people's lives. It's a very common thing. Do you ever have fake arguments? You ever have fake arguments in your head?
Starting point is 00:51:12 With myself? Oh, I used to do that all the time. I used to pretend someone would say this back to me. I was like, well, fuck you. I'm going to say this back to you. And then sometimes it would be with a dude, and then I would run into him to talk to him, think we're going to have this big argument. And he's awesome.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Hey, man, I'm sorry. I know. I fucked up. I was drunk. You had all this shit prepared. And then I abandoned it immediately. I think there's so much of how people interact with each other. It could be just way different with just a little shift in how we talk to each other
Starting point is 00:51:39 and how we think about each other. I did that last night. I was doing a set at the Laugh Factory, and we were talking about off-air, Santino and Theo Vaughn. I was going, you know, in between them. I had this whole dialogue in my head. Because they're like, oh, we're going to stay and watch your set. I'm like, that'll be cool.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And as soon as I got done, I was like, oh, I bet fucking Santino thought that sucked. And this and this. I'm like, literally, he comes in the back. He's the nicest guy ever. Santino's a very nice guy. He's fucking funny, man. He destroyed last night. He's a funny dude. There's like young guys that are coming up that I go, oh, look at you.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Him and Theo last night, back to back, I was like, you motherfuckers are monsters. Have you seen his bit he does about The Rock? You got to ask him to do it. Santino? Yes. Because he has so much material that he stopped doing it, I guess. He'll do it. But if you bring it up, he'll do it.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I would love that. I asked him to do it one night, and he did it for us in the OR. Dude. I don't know who Santino is. Oh, you got to see him. He's so good. He does a lot of my shows. Italian guy?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Redhead from Boston. He's Redhead. Okay. Super Redhead. He's a fucking funny guy. He's doing, I think he's on my show on the 24th. He told me he's in Chicago. Yeah, he's doing that. He's doing Chicago. He's me he's on your show in Chicago. Yeah, he's doing that.
Starting point is 00:52:45 He's doing Chicago. He's with me in Chicago. Him and Tony. It's a double header. That's a ridiculous show. Him and I walked from Laugh Factory to the Comedy Store last night, and he's a chatty Cathy. He's a good dude.
Starting point is 00:52:56 He's a good talk. Great dude. Real good dude. I love that guy. I love Santino. And Theo Vaughn. I love him, too. He's so original.
Starting point is 00:53:03 The two killers, man. So death when they go on stage. I love him, too. He's so original. They're two killers, man. So death when they go on stage. I watched him last night. Have you seen Theo? I was supposed to do his podcast, but it just never, I don't know what happened. Oh, I connect you guys. He wanted you on there. We went back and forth.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I still want to do it, but it just didn't happen. I'll get a hold of him. The last few weeks have been fucking crazy. With your knee operation and all that? Yeah. They have each other's numbers. Yeah. few weeks have been fucking crazy. What, with your knee operation and all that? Yeah. They have each other's numbers. Yeah. They're good.
Starting point is 00:53:28 He's so funny, man. His podcast's getting better, too. How about his boy was with him last night? I don't think he knows much about Theo's stand-up. And Theo's just sucking every fucking breath out of that place. Just destroying. And he goes, man, he's good, huh? I'm like, Theo? He's like, yeah. He's like, I mean, he's doing really good down there huh i'm like theo he's like yeah he's like
Starting point is 00:53:46 i mean he's doing really good down there like yeah man he's a fucking killer well you know the thing is theo has really come into his own over the last two years uh and that's i met him right around the time it was really popping for him he was always really good like everybody thought he was always funny but he he hit some new level i remember me and adam the booking agent at the comedy store yeah we were in the hallway and theo was murdering and we he got off stage and i went up to adam i go dude he's on another level he hit some new stride he goes yeah right like we remember like recognizing this moment where theo was in some new space. He was in some weird
Starting point is 00:54:27 original space. Everywhere I go, I was just in Calgary, and they go, who else is good out there? I went, do you have Theo Vaughn? No, I'm like, how do you guys not? He should be destroying ticket sales. And Santino too. I'm like, God, how are you guys
Starting point is 00:54:44 not just... People are going to know. Yeah. Keep an eye on. Those two dudes are like the next Tom Segura. Correct? You guys didn't know who Michael Che is? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:52 His Netflix special's fucking high level. He's a monster. Oh, it's called Michael Che Matters. Oh, nice. Dude, he's got this Jesus bit where he talks about, you know how Jesus was a carpenter? Uh-huh. I'm not going to ruin the bit, but he's saying he must have sucked. Because if he would have been good, there would have been pieces of furniture.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Yeah, we shouldn't do his bit. He's really good. He's really good. He does the- He's high level. High level. Your boy just released a special on Netflix. I didn't know he's still doing stand-up.
Starting point is 00:55:21 James, your boy. Kevin James. Kevin James. Yeah, yeah, he just did. Yeah, he's been doing stand-up. He does your boy kevin james james yeah yeah he just did yeah yeah he's been doing stand-up he does like i know he used to be a killer i didn't know that and i we basically were amateurs together we're basically just starting to get paid and i signed with my manager and i got my manager to sign with kevin and like i have a i'm in a small management company and he has a few
Starting point is 00:55:46 clients that have been with them for more than 20 years and two of them are me and Kevin is this you and Kevin is this started in Boston or LA it was in New York I moved from Boston to New York because of my manager and then I hooked my manager up with Kevin and then um you know like Kevin and I are pretty close yeah I know that that's what I watched this special because i think brian told me he's like dude he was a killer he was a killer i think you told me that too so i've never seen his stamp i've watched it on like youtube but then his special it's good well you know what it is man it's like at this point he's just so busy you know he's got his tv show and he's always doing before kevin can wait he was always doing his other TV show that went on forever you know that's and he was a like a main guy on that show so yeah he's the main guy I mean as an actor I mean as a writer oh so it wasn't just a
Starting point is 00:56:34 nightmare oh dude he wrote everything with those guys he wrote a lot he rewrote a lot he went over all the scripts the reason why the show was so good it's because it was a talented staff of writers, talented actress. Leah Remini was very funny. There was a lot of funny people on the show. Patton Oswalt was really good on the show. He's great. But more than anything it was like Kevin is like a driven dude. He gets
Starting point is 00:56:55 super obsessed about doing the right. He would go over lines but he's like this. He's a craftsman. He's trying to break it down. He's trying to figure it out. But he just doesn't do the amount of stand-up now that he used to when he was starting out. How could you, though? You can't.
Starting point is 00:57:11 There's no way you could. But that's why you didn't think that he was doing it anymore. Because there's no way he could do the kind of stand-up where you'd be everywhere all the time. He just doesn't have that time. When you're doing a sitcom, it's your sitcom. Especially if you're writing. Fuck, dude. That's so much work.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Gary Shandlin talked about that too because he would write everything, overlook every episode and then can't do both. Think about some of the shit that we've done, like that cartoon about you getting kidnapped
Starting point is 00:57:35 by the Mexicans and they fill you up with drugs and turn you into a sex slave. My dick's popping out. That, we didn't write a goddamn thing. No. We were just two friends riffing
Starting point is 00:57:45 giggling being ridiculous and it turns into a cartoon and it's fucking hilarious like you watch that cartoon it's hilarious we have it so much easier if we were doing a sitcom we would have meetings we would have to do a run through for the network the network would give us stupid notes we did do that i know and it was. And it was a nightmare. It was a nightmare. Fucking nightmare from day one. It's not a nightmare. I have to deal a little bit now because my Showtime show, I'm below the belt. But your show's at least not scripted. No.
Starting point is 00:58:14 See, that's the thing. It's a different animal. When things are scripted, shit gets weird. See, because what they're doing with you is very talent dependent. They're dependent upon your personality. Yes. That's what people want to see. The more they let you go,
Starting point is 00:58:26 the better the show's going to be. They realize that, and you see it in the show now, right? But if you're on a show where they're creating the dialogue, everybody's got a say. There's a narrative. Everybody's got their own little fucking opinion about how this should go, and that should go, and you don't want to hear their shit, and they think you suck,
Starting point is 00:58:42 and everybody's going back and forth, and then the network comes in, and they all want to get their greasy paws on it. Everybody wants to get their fucking jizz in the soup. They all want to hear their shit and they think you suck and everybody's going back and forth and then the network comes in and they all want to get their greasy paws on it everybody wants to get their fucking jizz in the soup they all want to get their flavor a little flavor a little bit of flavor everybody literally wants to add their dna to the script i've seen people try to change things just to justify their job they have to have an opinion everybody has to have an opinion like i just think she's not dressed hot enough. They have these conversations. We need a black guy. We need a black guy.
Starting point is 00:59:09 And then you're listening to some executive that doesn't know shit about writing. They're not writers. They just decide they want to have some sort of say and they think they know the business because they've been working as an executive fucking up shows for about five six years so they've got experience fucking up shows so they think, six years. So they've got to experience fucking up shows.
Starting point is 00:59:26 So they think they can fuck up your show and fix it. It would be a nightmare to do all of that and do stand-up. We need a gay neighbor. We have to have a gay neighbor. Got to get a gay neighbor. We need a token gay neighbor. We need a silly, big, silly, bold. We need transgender.
Starting point is 00:59:39 We need transgender. Have you heard of transracial? Oh, dude. Thank God you guys remind me of this. There's a new fuck yes. Yes. There's a new documentary on Netflix about that lady who was white and thinks she's black. Rachel Dolezal. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And it is epic. What's it called? I've heard it's epic. What's it called? I forget, but you watch it. Oh, that poor lady. No, you feel bad for it. The Rachel Dozer. Yeah. The Rachel Dozer. What's it called? The Rachel Divide. The Rachel Divide. Dolezal is her name. Rachel Dozer, right? What's it called? The Rachel Divide. The Rachel Divide. Dolezal is her name. Dolezal.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Dolezal. Different name now. She changed her name to like some super- Does she still want to be black? Super African sounding name. She didn't go black? No spoiler alerts. I mean, you can look this shit up.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Yeah. But they basically like, she goes on, she writes a book. She sells 500 of them. It goes terrible. She's trying to make money because the black community doesn't accept her. The white community doesn't accept her. So she writes this book. And then at at the end you see her taking her braids out and I'm like, oh damn, she's going back to white. But she doubles down
Starting point is 01:00:31 Wakanda style. Comes out with like an afro, changes her name like fucking Wynoda. She changed her name. There she is. Look at her there. The Rachel Divide. What is her new name? It's something crazy. It's super African. Yeah. Like from the motherland. Yes. Gerald Harris was always super jacked. He looks good. It looks like he's a good change. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:00:54 This is going to be a great fight, man. Yeah. Gerald Harris and Raphael Levi. Oh, there it is. Did you know? Nkechi Ameri Diallo. Oh, that's a good name. That's super normal. That's super normal. That makes sense for a white girl. Do you know Gerald Harris does stand up? Apparently he's really funny. That's super normal. It's catchy. That's super normal. That makes sense for a white girl. Do you know Gerald Harris does stand-up? Apparently, he's really funny.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Oh, yeah? Yeah. I saw a very short clip of him when he was first starting out. Oh, yeah? I didn't know that. Yeah, he's a funny guy. Damn, there could be an MMA comedy tour. You, Gerald Harris, Joe Rogan. Who else is doing it?
Starting point is 01:01:24 Adam Hunter. Adam Hunter. Did he fight MMA? No, he's a straight comedian. He's a really good wrestler. But he's still in the MMA community. Yeah, he's in the community. His show is fucking good, man. And he's a hilarious comic.
Starting point is 01:01:36 He's a really good joke writer. Like a one-liner type dude. Very good at that. He's a good dude, too. So that would be him. And he he wrestled i think he coaches wrestling too doesn't he do some shit with einstein einstein i think they used to do a podcast together and then they don't they don't work out and then henato started doing it with him and not to cause the trouble always cause the trouble i've never met trouble. I've never met him. Never met Renato Laranja.
Starting point is 01:02:06 That's the troubles for you. You'd love him. Never. I'm sure. I'm sure. I never ran into him. He's a big bach. He brings you up though.
Starting point is 01:02:15 He calls you Brendan Schwab. That makes sense. The big bach. I've never met him. One of the funniest guys to ever live. He's a funny fucking dude. He's so funny. Is he?
Starting point is 01:02:27 Have you seen the Renato Laranja show where he does the sketches? You've seen Robert De Niro? He does the heat sketch. He's got the Rocky III sketch. He's got an incredible Hulk sketch. The Snatch one's off the charts. Dude, he's brilliant. He's brilliant.
Starting point is 01:02:39 The Snatch one is a fucking... Have you ever seen the take on Snatch? He writes all of that shit. It's Michael Bisping. Michael Bisping and him in a fucking parody of Snatched. writes all of that shit Michael Bisping Michael Bisping and him in a fucking parody of Snatched can you find that
Starting point is 01:02:48 find that it's so good it is hilarious is he just he has his own channel he had his own show and it's a talk show where he's brought
Starting point is 01:02:55 he's at a Henner Henner Gracie Frank Shamrock and he's the host but it's not a it's like a podcast but it's a show
Starting point is 01:03:02 and he crushes his guests the premise of the show. And he crushes his guests. The premise of the show is he's better than the guests, and he's going to crush you. That's hilarious. And he smashes you. He had Frank Shamrock on, and I asked him, I go, did you bring up his snaggle tooth? Not, you know. And he brought it up for 30 minutes.
Starting point is 01:03:22 And he brought it up for 30 minutes. I love Frank Shamrock. But he fixed it, though. He's got braces. I got braces. My teeth look like llama teeth. Frank's braces are off. Frank's braces are off.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Your metal ones are off. Yeah, my teeth were just as bad as Frank's, so I had to get braces as an old man, too. Did you do Invisalign or did you do metals? I did Invisalign. Brian's doing Invisalign. They're not getting better. Brian's had Invisalign. They're not getting better. Brian's had Invisalign for like four months now. Check this out. He took him out.
Starting point is 01:03:48 His teeth are fucked up. Tell him to let it go. Here it is. Snatchy. Can we play this on the podcast? Yeah. And that's, who's the other guy? Kip Cole, right?
Starting point is 01:03:58 No, Kip. He's a grappler. Dale. Kip Dale. Yeah. This is great. Michael Bisping's good, too. Look me in the ear, you fuck.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Shits himself when you put him in a ring. Poke him with a stick and watch his bollocks grow. Do you like a dog fight, Turkish? We've lost Vinny Magalash. Shh. You're going to have to repeat that. God, he's great. We've lost Vinny Magalhaes.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Well, where the fuck did you lose him to? It ain't as if he's a fucking pair of car keys. And it ain't as if he's not a fat fucking obese poor... We'll come back to this. He's a great actor. It's a long sketch. It's a long sketch. We'll come back to it. Let's watch this fight. a long sketch It's a long sketch We'll come back to it
Starting point is 01:04:45 Let's watch this fight Oh my god it's 40 minutes long This fight No it's not The show is 40 minutes Lovato and Gerald Harris here This shit's going down This is an interesting fight to me
Starting point is 01:04:55 Lovato is one of the best Jiu Jitsu guys right now in MMA White boy out of Oklahoma And he can fuck dudes up standing And speaks Portuguese right Oh crazy flying knee Do you go to the ground with him He's probably not Oklahoma. And he can fuck dudes up standing. And speaks Portuguese, right? Oh, crazy flying knee. Do you go to the ground with him? He's probably not scared.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Not a good idea. Let's see what happens here. He might get tidied up. I thought Gerald retired. He did for a bit. And now he's... But he's back. This is just...
Starting point is 01:05:17 Did he get cut from the UFC? And then signed with Bellator? I do not remember. Lovato's got a really good guard, too. So he's in danger right now. Yeah, I mean, he's in danger right now. Yeah, I mean, he's got his legs closed up here. I don't know why Gerald's playing this game.
Starting point is 01:05:27 This is not a wise maneuver. It's probably going to end right here. Yeah, you don't realize sometimes. Well, you know what? His left elbow's out. He's good. He's safe right here. His legs are tight around that back, though.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Oh, if he's a triangle, son. Man, if he puts in that, if he triangles his legs, even with both arms, and oh, there it is. It's over. It's over. It's done. Oh, there it is. It's over. It's done. It's done. That's it. Tapped.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Yep. What the fuck was Gerald thinking? That's what I'm saying, but they don't know. They don't know. You don't know. This guy's level of jujitsu, they have an idea. They think they can survive. You can't. He has knockouts, too, though.
Starting point is 01:05:59 He does. He's knocked you out with his knees and shit. He said he was kind of bummed out that he didn't get to choke him. But he can show that he can do that, too. But the level on the ground is so high. When's the last time you saw this many high-level jiu-jitsu guys just submit? Right? First round.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Crazy. Good on Bellator. Now Frank just capped the night off. Jumped a half guard, bro, like a third. Imagine if he snapped Fedor's arm, too. Shit. Think about that, Chitty Bro. The legend of Frank. Tim Sylvia, Noguera. Imagine if he snaps Fedor's arm, too. Shit. Think about that, Chitty Bro.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Tim Sylvia, Noguera. What if he breaks Fedor's arm? And we go, get the fuck out of here. He has arguably one of the best guards in the history of the heavyweight division. Check this out. Night guards, right? Yeah. Frank? Yeah, Frank's got a wicked guard.
Starting point is 01:06:41 It is. It is better. But Frank's got a wicked fucking guard, man. Look at that beautiful swim move. Woo! Bam. Look at his legs. Look at how he wraps it up, too. God damn, that's tight.
Starting point is 01:06:51 That was fucking filthy. Beautiful. Do you like that? Look at the swim right here. Boom. Yeah, that's perfect. Right there. Bam.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Perfect. Do you like this way? I get arm bars like that all the time. That's off an arm crush. That's how your legs will be off a failed arm crush to the arm bar. Right. It's perfect. Do you prefer it like that
Starting point is 01:07:09 or do you prefer the legs parallel? No, no, no. That's when the legs aren't, if the legs aren't perfect, meaning the ankles are crossed
Starting point is 01:07:17 over the far elbow or shoulder, that's perfect. Right. But sometimes you just can't have it perfect so that is, if Gerald Harris would have had a good corkscrew, or shoulder, that's perfect. But sometimes you just can't have it perfect. So that is, if Gerald Harris would have had a good corkscrew,
Starting point is 01:07:31 a good hitchhiker, he could have got out. But you got to have that in the chamber ready to go. And you got to rep it a couple thousand times. That's a very technical move. Remember when Carl Parisian fought Matt Serra? Remember that? Yeah. And Carl Parisian, one of them almost had an arm bar. Carl almost had Matt an arm bar.
Starting point is 01:07:49 And then Matt hit a perfect corkscrew, a hitchhiker, out of it. So if you have those in the chamber ready to go, the legs need to be perfect. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. The left shoulder had more mobility than it would if you had that leg over. But it was so tight. But it's interesting how some guys, like, they get a certain way of doing it like that.
Starting point is 01:08:13 And then they choose that over the other way. They'll just decide. No, no, he didn't. No, not there either. Yeah, right there there was no way. If he would have tried to get it perfect first, he would have lost it. But you know how some guys do that, though? Some guys will choose, like, a specific way to lock up an arm bar or an arm triangle.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And it might not even be the most effective, but they do it that way so much they get it locked down. Yeah, yeah. There's so many variations that you can hit that arm bar. You could hit it belly down, on your side, on your back. Ideally, if you're controlling the action, you're going to get that arm bar and you're going to be on your back and he's going to be on his back in spider web. If you're controlling everything but shit,
Starting point is 01:08:52 if the guy's a beast and starts moving, you got to move with him and you got to make sure that you have the skills to get that arm bar in any of the positions in the scramble. Do you remember when people were almost always doing the rear naked choke
Starting point is 01:09:07 with the palm on the back of the head? It was almost always. Instead of hiding it, you're saying? Instead of doing the karate chop way. It was always palm to the back of the head, and then it switched, and everybody was like, oh, yeah, that's way better if you can get it in.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Well, when you have the gloves in, sometimes it's hard to get the gloves in. Fedor Malenko, tracked down by FBI agents at Bellator 198. What? They've been in and out of this hotel room for the last few days, apparently, too. What?
Starting point is 01:09:33 Because the former owner of Bellator was Michael Cohen. What? And there might be something up. Russian collusion. What? What? They could find pictures of him and Trump. Is this real, Jamie?
Starting point is 01:09:44 Holy shit. This is reported from here. I mean, I'm not digging into it, but MMA has it here. A few other places had it, too. What if Trump and Fedor are colluding? That's crazy. Or Fedor and Putin.
Starting point is 01:09:59 We were saying before about Invisalign. Invisalign does work. It's not working on Brian. No, he probably takes them out. You've got to keep them in. And once you take them out, for life, at night, you've got to sleep with the retainer in. Oh, that's not for Brian. Yeah, people get lazy.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I get lazy. So you're supposed to do it every night. If you go three or four nights without using a retainer, your teeth go back to the way they used to be. Just go with the metal for like three months and lock it. It's still the same thing. Even when you're done with the metal ones, you still need to wear a retainer, your teeth go back to the way they used to be. Just go with the metal for like three months. It's still the same thing. Even when you're done with the metal ones, you still need to wear a retainer. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:10:29 Your teeth will go back. It's like muscle memory. Your teeth will go back easily. So you got to keep wearing a retainer. Would you guys judge me if I got veneers? My teeth were really fucked up. I had some shitty ass teeth. Would you care, Joe?
Starting point is 01:10:43 No. If I got veneers, You got to be cool, man. Do you really want to get them? I don't know. My bottom ones are like a fucking city skyline, man. I know a girl got them, and she was saying, she's an actress, and she was saying it was really freaky when they were sawing her teeth down. She got to look at them before they put the caps on.
Starting point is 01:10:58 It was like, yikes. What have you done to my teeth? There's no going back now. You got to put those caps on. They saw your fucking teeth down to nubs. I'm trying to step my game up, man. You look great. No, you don't need them.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I drank so much coffee, my teeth look like corn nuts. Just whiten them. Here's the problem. Just whiten your teeth. There is a problem in trying too hard. There's a problem with veneers. Like, how much are you trying? You think you're trying too hard.
Starting point is 01:11:24 That's not good. That's hard. That's not good. That's true. That's not good. Let's watch that snatchy. Yeah, let's watch that. Lovato, son. So far, jiu-jitsu kicking ass in Bellator. That's what it was designed for tonight, man.
Starting point is 01:11:39 His jiu-jitsu is just crushing. You know, his training partner is Justin Redd. Yeah. Yeah, they're boys. They're close. Yeah, Justin went down there To tighten up his game And he hit Some submissions now
Starting point is 01:11:49 He hit an arm triangle In one of his fights That's always been his thing Arm training has always been Justin's thing He's an after right now Climbing the tallest mountain Look at this
Starting point is 01:11:56 Look at this swim Saving kids From here Going belly down He gets that arm That's perfect Gets that wrist Locks that leg over
Starting point is 01:12:03 Boom Super nasty. The hips. Extend. Man, if we had mats here, we could have went over that course. We would have. Would have, should have, could have. But we have room.
Starting point is 01:12:14 There's plenty of room. Hell yeah. It's perfect. We could have set up another camera. So many activities. Oh, you know what? I think maybe the best thing would be probably because it's jujitsu and you need to get good angles. Two guys do the techniques and you need to get good angles.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Two guys do the techniques and the third guy coaches it up. Or not coaches it up, but follows with a remote camera. You know if Callan's here, we're not getting any of that done. He's just going to be fucking messing around. What if I do this? He got a blue belt, right? What if I do this? Callan has a blue belt and he wrestled in high school, right?
Starting point is 01:12:41 Does he have a blue belt? I think so. He got his blue belt from Henzo. That's what he says. You wouldn't lie have a blue belt i think so he got his blue belt from henzo that's what he says you wouldn't lie about a blue belt we'd have to ask henzo nah he got it i remember a long time ago he told me that yeah i believe he's a blue belt yeah yeah i've seen him roll we used to do uh carlson gracie's together i've seen him when i first met him no he's definitely both white i've seen him roll those I first met him No he's definitely Both white belts I've seen him roll Those little sketches He does on Instagram
Starting point is 01:13:06 With The two phones With Like an iPad Beside his head No and That other comedian D'Elia
Starting point is 01:13:12 Oh yeah Dude Those guys are Fucking hilarious Man Where D'Elia That's his name right Yeah Chris D'Elia
Starting point is 01:13:20 Chris D'Elia That guy's basically Acting like Brian Callen. And Brian, you know, he's like super confident. Like they did that one bit. I think this, yeah, I've seen this one. This is a good one. Chris D'Elia's in Denver.
Starting point is 01:13:33 This is the video he sent me. They're both in Denver right now. Brian, baby, my main man. Brian, baby, my main man. I got a question for you. I know you're in Denver. Well, the outskirts of Denver. No, I'm in Denver.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I'm in downtown. I don't know how much city folk would like your comedy, although maybe they do. I'm sold out. You're doing a show. He knows that. He knows that. I'm doing a show. I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to help you out to sell some tickets.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Because I'm doing a show. I'm doing two shows. Okay, congrats. My venue is... Look at his neck. 1,900 seats. So that's roughly 4,000 seats. What are you, a cobra?
Starting point is 01:14:15 Look, he's a cobra. I'll punch your cobra face. I'll flatten your nose, and I'm going to do that. I'm going to turn you into a cobra You'll have a face as flat as a cobra That's what's gonna happen I'll flatten his cobra face Callum has a hilarious Instagram
Starting point is 01:14:36 David Brickle's show got picked up Yeah that's awesome Wasn't he already on a show? He is He's the coach on Goldberg But he's got his own show now He has his own spinoff He's the star He's still the coach? Yeah Same? He is. He's the coach on Goldberg. But he's got his own show now. He has his own spinoff. He's the star.
Starting point is 01:14:46 He's still the coach? Yeah. Same character. So now the premise is the coach. He's like Better Call Saul, huh? Yeah. That's awesome, man. Big time.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Super happy for him. What's happening here? What fight is next? Main event. Oh, is it? Yeah, that's the main event. Is this it right now? Should event. Oh, is it? Yeah, that's the main event. Is this it right now? Should be.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Oh, shit. That was quick. Well, it's been all first round submissions. It's an hour and a half. There's still one more. There's Emmanuel Sanchez versus Sam Sicilio. Oh, that's right. That was the catch?
Starting point is 01:15:22 Just in case. Hey, man, this is a good card. This is a good card. Like, we's right. That was the catch. Just in case. Because they figured it was going quick. This is a good card. This is a good card. Like, we're entertained. It's a bunch of mismatches. For sure. A little bit. But it's good entertaining matchmaking.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Jiu-jitsu. Oh, it's a fucking. This is a seminar for a jiu-jitsu class. Like Dylan Dennis said, this is a seminar. I saw a terrible video of this jiu-jitsu guy trying to take down this guy with a gun. And the guy shot him and then got off him and shot him twice in the head at close range. I was like, why were you watching that, Joe? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Why was I watching that? Dude, have you seen that crazy video? The crazy, crazy one? Which one? Oh, the crazy, crazy one. If it's crazy to any, I'm fucking. Crazy, crazy? Crazy, crazy, crazy or crazy, crazy?
Starting point is 01:16:04 Crazy squid? Cartel killing of a cop? Oh, I can't watch those. Did you watch that? No, I'm fucking- Wait, crazy, crazy? Crazy, crazy, crazy or crazy, crazy? Crazy, crazy? Cartel killing of a cop. Oh, I can't watch those. Did you watch that? No, I can't watch that. Dude, on video. I mean, they record it on their phone. They just basically slice the skin off on a dead person.
Starting point is 01:16:16 There's already a dead person there, a cop. And they slice his skin all the way. They skin him alive, pull out his heart, cut his heart out, show it to him, show it to the camera, and warn anybody. It's fucking dark. It's really... You've ruined my night. Yeah, I'm not interested.
Starting point is 01:16:33 It's the darkest thing I've ever seen. I can't watch that shit. The only thing worse would be watching that happen to a baby or something. You went super dark, bro. Yeah. Let's change the subject. I can't watch that stuff. It's floating around. It's crazy to know that that's happening somewhere bro. Yeah. Let's change the subject. I can't watch that stuff. It's floating around.
Starting point is 01:16:45 It's crazy to know that that's happening somewhere in the world. It's happening. It's right, you know, two hours away. Yeah. It's right there on the border of California and Mexico. It's happening because of organized crime. And that organized crime is they're surviving and thriving because drugs are illegal. And they got everyone paid off.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Have you seen that documentary Cartel Land? Yes. Jesus Christ No, the best part of that that one guy's like kind of he's going against cartel and gets his dick sucked by his mistress And he goes boy. No boy. No You know, it's funny is halfway during through that documentary it looks like everyone being armed is the solution So halfway through the documentary I'm already texting people going shit. You got to watch this look what happens when everyone has machine guns, but then it It slowly goes south. Yeah, have you seen it Joe? No like the main star you haven't seen it Cartel man, no the main star of it. He's like fighting back against the cartel
Starting point is 01:17:40 I think he's married and he forgets he's mik'd up, sees his mistress, and there's subtext. He's getting his dick sucked, and you see the subtext. Bueno, bueno. Then he comes out, he's like, everyone good? Let's do it. It's great. Ah, bueno. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:17:56 He was a hero, and he had a lot of groupies. And he took, you know, he forgot they were filming everything, and he was mic'd, and he had a lot of groupies. Laid the law down, sorry. He would jump on them. That's hilarious, I need to see that. They were filming everything and he was miked and he had a lot of groupie laid the law That's hilarious I need to see that I was telling you about American made the very seals movie with Tom Cruise another badass Tom Cruise movie. Oh, yeah He's on the airplanes. I was just jumping around. Yeah, do it's good really good I want a good one. Hey look
Starting point is 01:18:22 I know a lot of the Barry Seals story, and they covered a lot of it. You can only cover so much of it in a 90-minute movie. But look, I mean, they did not pull any punches. They made it look like Bill Clinton got him off. Bill Clinton called the prosecutor. They caught him with millions of dollars in cocaine and money. Did they say why Bill Clinton? Nope.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Nope. They have her on the phone with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton, he's telling her, I'm going to walk. Whether or not he said that, I don't know because he's dead. No one knows, right? And he's telling her, trust me, I'm going to walk right out of here. And they're all laughing at him. She's like, you're not going to walk anyway.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And they're like, Mrs. Prosecutor, Bill Clinton's on the phone. And it's Governor Clinton. Yes. And you see her just get pissed off. Next thing you know, they're uncuffing him and he's leaving. So they're letting you know that Bill Clinton, the only way you could put that in a movie is there has to be some truth to him. They're like, there's got to be some sort of a documented record of him making that
Starting point is 01:19:19 call, right? He made that call. He had to have made that call. You couldn't say. Otherwise, defamation of character, right? Of course defamation of course Bill Clinton and he is the governor so there's probably a record of him saying let that guy go and so the reason they think is because in the film this is what they're saying is that he was tied in with the CIA and somehow another through the CIA using him for reconnaissance photos and stuff
Starting point is 01:19:44 like that and he eventually got hooked up with these drug dealers and started selling drugs. The CIA was in on it. And they were allowing him to do it. And he was getting them photographs and intel from all these different drug places. And in return, they were letting him do whatever he did and taking a piece of it probably. Did they mention MENA, Arkansas? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:01 They mentioned all that. I mean, that's where Bill Clinton was the governor of. And they only found out about all this stuff because two kids were killed. They were murdered. And they told the parents that the kids had gotten high and fell asleep on the train tracks. But the parents did an independent autopsy and found stab wounds in the kids. Jesus Christ. So they're like, oh, Jesus, what the fuck happened here?
Starting point is 01:20:20 And then slowly but surely, the whole thing unravels. They witnessed a drug drop yeah and oh well they couldn't uh have any witnesses dude those they made mina look like it was it's a big case you can go to youtube and just punch in uh cia mina arkansas cocaine boom and you get the whole it's a serious it's like so it could be it could be two kids we don't know we don't know somebody We don't know. Somebody was in on it. They assumed the CIA or no?
Starting point is 01:20:47 The kids must have seen the drugs be dropped. And whoever was selling the drugs, moving the drugs, they just decided to kill these kids. Because they couldn't take a chance. The kid's keeping their mouth shut. So they killed them. Jesus. And apparently that was just one thing, though. In the movie, the way they have it made up is like that that was just one thing,
Starting point is 01:21:04 this sort of straw that broke the camel's back. They don't even have that. I don't even remember if they had that in the movie, the way they have it made up is like that was just one thing, this sort of straw that broke the camel's back. They don't even have that. I don't even remember if they had that in the movie. The kids? Did they have that in the movie, the murder? They didn't have the murder of the kids. No, they didn't. But what they did have is these people were, I mean, everybody was rich.
Starting point is 01:21:16 They were all coming in and buying things, and everyone was like, where the fuck is all this money coming from? Who was rich? The people that were working with Barry Seals. Okay. Like his brother-in-law, like his wife's brother, apparently, I don't know if that was a real person, but in the movie
Starting point is 01:21:29 he's balling out of control and he's got some fucking ridiculous souped up car and he's got money coming out of his pockets and he's stuffing his pockets and he gets caught by a cop. And I don't know if that happened in real life, but in the movie they made it seem like everybody was just, there was so much money flowing around it didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:21:47 They were burying it in his backyard. When they busted him, it was like – in the movie – now, again, I don't know if this is real. Because you know what fucked me up, man? That Mark Schultz movie. The Mark Schultz movie? Foxcatcher? Yes. Because I know Mark Schultz fought one time in the UFC because I watched it.
Starting point is 01:22:06 He fought Big Daddy Goodrich. He took Big Daddy Goodrich down and beat the shit out of him. And they didn't use Big Daddy. No, not only did they not use Big Daddy. And the movie is fighting some Russian dude. Some white guy. He's fighting a white guy. It's a historical movie.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Also, Schultz had – there's no gay relationship there. That's the other thing. What the fuck was that about, man? They bleached his hair and made him look like he was and like him and the coach were like into each other that was weird man weird man that's that hollywood shit mark schultz told me that that movie is full of shit well it's it's a hundred percent full of shit because he doesn't fight gary goodrich at the end why would you change history like this is what we're talking about you You don't think they just overlooked it? No fucking way.
Starting point is 01:22:47 No fucking way. How easy is it to check? Because I can't trust anything. I can't trust anything in a movie. Hollywood doesn't know fighting, though. The movie was great. Steve Carell's fucking amazing. He has a nose on him.
Starting point is 01:22:59 He's amazing. But I know what really happened. I know that he fought Big Daddy Goodrich Why isn't he fighting Big Daddy Gurch in your fucking movie? I don't think they over looked it You can't overlook that no she only fought once it's a part of the move. I hear you man It's a very really easy. It's really easy. Just get a black guy So what would be Gary sign off on his likeness or doesn't have to he doesn't have to it's history There's a reality to it
Starting point is 01:23:24 You don't have to have him say his name. You show Big Daddy Goodrich across from him. You show him. You have Mark Schultz. You just cut into it right when they're introducing him. And have a black guy. And then have the guy and have him wear the gi, just like Big Daddy Goodrich had a gi on.
Starting point is 01:23:39 This guy didn't have a gi on. This is stupid. You can't change history. This is a real historical moment. It was a moment When one of the best Wrestlers On the fucking
Starting point is 01:23:48 Planet Earth A legit Super high level Olympian Fought in the UFC And he only fought once And you got to see How easy he took
Starting point is 01:23:56 An elite MMA fighter Down and just Dominated him That was an important Historical moment In MMA That's like Strange they missed it
Starting point is 01:24:03 Changing who breaks Jackie Robinson's record, or Babe Ruth's record, or Mickey Mantle. You're changing history. You could never do that with baseball. Nobody would let you. But you don't think because those are major sports and a lot of people would know that with MMA, they're just like, ah, whatever, man.
Starting point is 01:24:17 They might have done that, but that makes me not trust everything else in the movie. Because if you did that with a very important point, that with a very important point. That's a very important point. Because Big Daddy Goodrich is a legend. The Paul Herrera knockout. When Paul Herrera had him like a fireman's carry.
Starting point is 01:24:32 And he hit him with all those elbows. That's probably the most brutal KO in MMA history. Yes. It's one of them. It's certainly, certainly one of them. I mean, that was a terrifying, terrifying KO. How easy is that for them to fix, too? If you just put some sort of reference to Gary Goodrich. of them it's certainly certainly one of them i mean that was a terrifying terrifying ko how easy is that for them to fix too if you just put some sort of reference to gary goodrich dude big daddy
Starting point is 01:24:50 goodrich he head kicked don fry remember that he's a monster kicked him and KO'd him you know big daddy goodrich is an important historical figure in mma you can't just change the name of the guy mark schultz fights. Good movie though. I lost faith in based on a true story movies when The Dragon came out. The Bruce Lee movie by Jason Scott Lee. He played Bruce Lee.
Starting point is 01:25:16 And there was so much bullshit in there. Oh my god. I love that movie. It was filled with bullshit. In the movie he had a real fight at the Long Beach Arena. He was just, in reality, he was just doing demonstrations, but in the movie they had him. He didn't have a real fight there?
Starting point is 01:25:34 He didn't have a real fight there. He had no fight. And in the movie, during the fight, his opponent broke his back with a sidekick. Yeah, I remember that. And in the movie, he was in the hospital. That was heartbreaking. In reality, he fucked his back up lifting weights. He was lifting weights.
Starting point is 01:25:50 He never broke his back in that fight? No. He never had a fight. And he didn't have to fully redeem himself? I love Bruce Lee to death, but he never had a professional fight, ever. Ever, right? Ever.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Not one fight? Never. No, I don't think he ever competed. I don't think he had an amateur fight either. Yeah, I mean, he fought. On the streets. Yeah, on the streets. And he fought in a YMCA for the right to teach non-Asians kung fu in San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Well, that'd be a fight, though, right? Yeah, he had real fights. He was a real fighter, but he didn't have a real professional fight. Yeah. He didn't have anything like that. He broke his back lifting weights, not in a professional fight. What kind of weights was he lifting? When I saw that, I thought, okay, I can't trust any Hollywood movies now. He didn't have anything like that. He broke his back lifting weights, not in a professional fight. What kind of weights was he lifting?
Starting point is 01:26:29 When I saw that, I thought, okay, I can't trust any Hollywood movies now. Based on a true story means it's a little bit true. They got to paint a narrative a little bit. No. No. Well, no, you can't change. No, no, no, no, no, no. Now it's inspired by true events. Inspired.
Starting point is 01:26:42 See, I dig that shit. You can't add stuff. You can't add stuff. You can't add a gay relationship. You can't add a karate kick to the back that fucks you up and puts you in the hospital. You can't add that. In reality, he had to fight. If he beat this guy at a YMCA,
Starting point is 01:26:58 he had the right to teach non-Asians because that was an issue back then. It was in the 60s. Yeah, they were like, why are you teaching Americans our shit? And he was like, I'll teach anybody the fuck I want. So he had to fight at a YMCA. In the movie,
Starting point is 01:27:12 in the movie, it was in an underground cavern with elders in these little spots. Yeah, and he scratched his chest. Did he scratch his chest though? And then the guy fucked his back up again. Yes, he kicks him. It was in a
Starting point is 01:27:25 weird like uh illuminati cave i love that part though i hate when they do that yeah it was all bullshit it was a great movie though it was a great movie you can't do that about a real person watch a documentary you fuck that's like when abraham lincoln fought the vampires it was obvious it wasn't real that's a good ass movie that's a good movie though man That's a good ass movie. That's a good movie though, man. That was a crazy ass movie. What if that was real? Hey, we don't know. Maybe he killed them all and that's why we could sleep good at night. That movie's
Starting point is 01:27:53 so underrated. We do know a lot of people out there are drinking baby blood. Maybe after a while you turn into like a vampire kind of person. Can you imagine if vampires were something you really had to worry about? Oh my God. They might be out there. They might be out there.
Starting point is 01:28:08 We're so fucked. Can you imagine if there was dudes out there sucking people's blood and a bunch of people found with their jugular veins tapped into by those two prongs? You know, isn't it weird that it's kind of romantic? Like chicks think that's romantic. They think those guys are hot. Like you bite a girl's neck. Like true blood. but you know why it's because it's the guy loves you so much you're willing you
Starting point is 01:28:30 love him so much you're willing to be the undead and live for eternity go for eternity like the best one ever by far twilight gary oldman and winona rider oh. Oh, shit. Bram Stoker's Dracula. Hell yeah. Preach, son. Hell yeah. That shit is so good. It is fucking fantastic. I made a music video out of that one. Interview with the vampire is fucking good, too. That's very good, but it's a different vampire. Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Dude, Tom Cruise killed it in that, too. Yes. Killed it in that, too. Bram Stoker's legit, man. He was really good in that with that little girl. That little girl was a beast. That was fucked up. What's that?
Starting point is 01:29:02 That little girl's... Kristen Dunst. Yes. She was in Spider-Man. Amazing. She's amazing What's that little girl's Kristen Dunst. Yes. She was in Spider-Man. Amazing. She's amazing. In that movie she's fucking fantastic
Starting point is 01:29:09 and she's like 10 and she's killing it as a little vampire. She's a popular bitch in that movie. That's terrifying too because you believe it. I know.
Starting point is 01:29:15 And she would like dress those people up after they were dead and people were like what the fuck you killed them? And even top crews like you gotta chill out
Starting point is 01:29:21 because she was killing everybody. Couldn't help it. She'd kill everybody. I want to see that now. Fuck yeah I want to see that. I want to order a large pizza and watch that. She might have been the scariest vampire ever. That little girl.
Starting point is 01:29:31 She's up there. She's up there, right? Because she's so fucking cute and so vicious because she was like 300 years old, but she was 10. You know who's not a bad vampire is Colin Farrell in Night of the Living Dead. Not bad at all. Not bad. Not bad.
Starting point is 01:29:43 It's not Night of the Living Dead. I know what you're talking about. It's the newest one. Not bad at all. Not bad. Not bad. It's not Night of the Living Dead. It's, I know what you're talking about. It's the newest one. The, yeah. The kid who died. What is it called?
Starting point is 01:29:50 The fuck is it called? It's not Night of the Living Dead. Is that Night of the Living Dead? I don't think so. No. It's like, from Dust Till Dawn? No,
Starting point is 01:29:57 that was good too. Fright Night. Fright Night. That's it. That's it. Fright Night. Dust Till Dawn's good. Dude,
Starting point is 01:30:04 how many vampire movies have there been? I watch them all. Holy shit. I watch them all. They really want to push those things. I love them. Jesus Christ. The Twilight ones are the most ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:30:13 What's up with vampires? They could live in the Seattle area because it never was sunny. That's some bullshit. They have the makeup on. And then they don't burn when the sun hits them. Blade. That was a vampire movie, right? Blade's a fucking good one.
Starting point is 01:30:26 That's a good one. No, Colin Farrell's a beast in that. That's a good movie. There's probably more vampire movies than space movies. No. No. No? No, I think there are.
Starting point is 01:30:37 No, no, no. I think it's just this year alone. Star Wars, Aliens, Star Trek. You can just keep going on. Event Horizon. Gravity. You can keep going on and on and on. All the aliens. I disagree, homeboy. You can just keep going on. Event Horizon. Gravity. You can keep going on and on and on. All the aliens.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Disagree, homeboy. You're on. Disagree. Hey, have you guys seen Lost in Space on Netflix? Have you heard anything about it? No, any good? You hear anything about that, Jamie? Lost in Space?
Starting point is 01:30:56 Supposed to be any good? Trailer looked good. I didn't hear good reviews, though. Oh. I know they did a, they got a new show they're doing with that chick from Battlestar Galactica. Katie, how do you say her name? Sackhoff? She's badass.
Starting point is 01:31:09 You hear of NASA? Did you ever see Battlestar Galactica, the sci-fi version? No. Wasn't Battlestar Galactica with John Travolta the worst movie of all time? No. They got right now. Battlefield Earth. There you go.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Yeah, you're fucking up today with the names. I'm fucking up. You know that Trump gave NASA a whole shitload of money, like $19 billion, and said, okay, here's the money, but we're going to the fucking moon. Let's go to the moon. So they started a campaign to go to the moon, and they just canceled the mission. Why? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:31:38 They didn't cancel the mission. They canceled the moon rover. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. They canceled the construction of the moon Rover, and everybody's confused. They don't know how they did that, because this is like the last Moon Rover that they had. Unless they have some new top-secret Moon Rover that they don't want to let anybody know about. Maybe they found some new cool shit. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Probably. Yeah. Maybe they can't go. Imagine if we really did. Trump said, let's go. And they're like, okay, give us the money. Let's figure it out. Okay, we'll figure it out. We got $19 billion. Imagine if we really did. Trump said, let's go. And they're like, okay, give us the money. Let's figure it out. Okay, we'll figure it out. We got 19 billion.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Imagine if we really did find out. Nobody else is working on it, putting a rover on the moon. And NASA wasn't either until Trump said, here's the money. Let's go to the fucking moon and then we're going to Mars. Can you imagine if Trump goes on TV and says, there's a lot of things to talk about.
Starting point is 01:32:23 One of them is, it's a terrible tragedy. We've never been to the moon, ladies and gentlemen. I feel like that's some shit he would do. Oh, yeah. If he found out, he doesn't know. He doesn't know. How do you know he doesn't know? He's too busy with-
Starting point is 01:32:35 He's friends with Alex Jones. He's a lips cannon. They don't really talk that much. Because they can't. They can't. Everywhere they go, they're wearing wires. Everyone's wearing a wire. Their phones are being tapped.
Starting point is 01:32:44 You know who QAnon is? QAnon? I've heard about that. It's crazy shit, dude. What is it? QAnon is someone in the Trump administration. People think it's someone in intelligence, in the military, who's dropping all these clues on 4chan and 8chan.
Starting point is 01:33:01 So the whole thing is, is it real? Is it disinformation? Is someone playing a trick? But he legally can't say what's going on behind the scenes. Another leg lock. Look at this. He legally can't say. Because
Starting point is 01:33:13 it's against the law. So he's dropping all these clues. And it's someone named Q Anon. And it's been going on for about three months. And there's all these people on the underground. Basically, he's saying, trust the president. It's going to take a while to take down all these corrupt people at the top of the FBI and the Department of Justice and all this shit.
Starting point is 01:33:35 We're going to take them down one by one. So he's been dropping all these clues on how they're going to do it. It's pretty interesting. You listen to it every day. His drops every day. And it's like it gets addicting. But you don't know if it's real or not. Is it disinformation? It's called QAnon.
Starting point is 01:33:50 And he makes drops every day and leaves all these clues of what's going on behind the scenes. But no one can trace back to find out who he is or anything like that? No. I think on 4chan or 8chan, isn't it like you can, hackers know how to drop information without being tracked, right? Oh, for sure. Right? That's what's
Starting point is 01:34:06 going on. Have you heard of QAnon? I know you have, right? Yeah, there's a bunch of posts about it, but again, who knows if it's real or not. But the people that, I mean, there's people who, there's a guy named Jerome Corsi who works for Alex Jones who, that's his job, is to analyze all these clues of what's going on,
Starting point is 01:34:22 what Trump is doing behind the scenes, because he's got the media, the entire media, Hollywood, FBI, and what they're finding out is they're finding text messages and emails going back and forth between key people running the government, colluding to destroy Trump. That's what's going on. Well, for sure, they don't want him around. No, nobody. None of those people that have been in politics,
Starting point is 01:34:50 established politics forever. They didn't think he was going to win. So they did all this shit thinking Hillary was going to win. But now that he won, they're going back and looking at all the text messages from all these super powerful people. People are resigning. It's crazy shit going on.
Starting point is 01:35:05 And most people don't know. It's like Game of Thrones for real. You know, Game of Thrones has like 50 characters and it would take you about a month to catch up on what's going on. There's just so much going on. That's what's going on. There's a Game of Thrones going on right now. But the media is only going to tell you their side. And then QAnon is dropping the
Starting point is 01:35:26 behind-the-scenes clues. It's pretty fascinating. Standing arm triangle here. Another submission. This is over. This is over. 100% it's over. 100% it's over. 100%. Oh, go back to the camera. He's talking to it. He should jump to full guard.
Starting point is 01:35:41 He should jump to full guard. Why do you think this is definitely done? It's so deep, and the guy's not doing anything with his left hand. Well, he wasn't. If he just jumps full guard, it's over. Oh, he's in trouble. He's down. There you go. Okay, it's over now.
Starting point is 01:35:52 No way he's going to survive. It's over. You got it. Damn, Eddie Bravo called that shit. Four submissions. Arm triangle and full guard is death. And how about the arm triangle from standing position drags him to the ground and stashes it? That was sick. That happens every now and then. You see it every now and then to the ground and stashes it. That was sick.
Starting point is 01:36:05 That happens every now and then. You see it every now and then. It's rare to see it. You've got to be tapping people so much with your arm triangle. You have so much faith in it. It's got to be your go-to to take a chance like that. If it's not your go-to, that's why you don't really see it. Because there's not that many fighters overall in MMA that are known for amazing arm triangles.
Starting point is 01:36:23 It's kind of popular. all in MMA that are known for amazing arm triangles. It's kind of popular. It is probably, you know, I would say 25% of MMA fighters have high level arm triangles. I would say maybe that's a little high, but you know, about 20, 25%. Well, what he did there that was like special was get sideways. He was doing like a rear naked choke from the side. Is that a Brazilian or a Mexican? What is his name, Jamie?
Starting point is 01:36:46 They fought Sam Sicilia? He pointed to the Brazil flag on his shorts. This is dope. Look at how he clamps his shit down. Very interesting. Very interesting. Look how tight he gets it, man. He gets it super tight.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Emmanuel Sanchez. Emmanuel Sanchez. That's Mexican. Hell yeah. Hey, Mexicans, they got heart. Dude, this is phenomenal. You know who needs to make a comeback? Speaking of Mexicans.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Once he goes to full guard, look at this. See what he's doing with his left hand? He's not really protecting anything, so that shows me that he kind of doesn't know how to get out of it. Wow. Super snuggie. That's amazing. The Mexican that we need to come back is Yair Rodriguez.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Well, they offered Yair Rodriguez Zabit. Correct. Mago Bed, Sharapov. Yair actually came into my gym last week, a couple days. Yair did? Yep. He came in with Kelvin. They've been hanging out.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Oh, cool. He's phenomenal, man. Phenomenal. You don't want to see him versus Zabit? No. Why not? That would be amazing. Are you crazy?
Starting point is 01:37:44 Hold, hold. You don't want someone to lose. Hold onit? No. Why not? That would be amazing. Are you crazy? Hold, hold. You don't want someone to lose. No, hold on. Amazing fight. Yair just fought Frankie Edgar. Well, his last fight with Frankie, lost, right? Got dismantled.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Right. So you're going to toss him fucking Zabit, who could probably beat the top five right now? So for Yair- Why not? Why not? Who wouldn't want to see that? The heart, we do.
Starting point is 01:38:02 But if you care about Yair, the hard cords know Zabit, but he's not a huge name. So for see that? The heart, we do. But if you care about Yair, the heart chords know Zabit. But he's not a huge name. So for Yair, it's a huge risk. So you think Zabit beats Yair? You think he beats him? It's a tough fucking fight for him, man. After Frankie Edgar?
Starting point is 01:38:17 Right. True. You want to build a star or not? Different fight. Different fight. Tough fight. I'd like to see it because uh yair in my opinion has the most dynamic stand-up in all of mma because he throws so much crazy shit he's doing
Starting point is 01:38:31 the wild shit i love that shit listen man so does that beat no no that's why i want to see it i want to see it it'll look like a beat's wrestling like a jackie chan fight the beat is uh he's got a bunch of like really solid fundamental movements like When he lands, he'll throw something, and even if he's off, he'll shuffle and adjust and always be in perfect position. He's really good at throwing kicks and throwing punches or elbows or knees, anything he does. He hits you, and then boom, he's in perfect position. He doesn't have any holes. Yeah, you never see him stumble or look weird. He's never off balance. He's on the same team as Khab have any holes. Yeah, he never seems to stumble or look weird. He's never like off balance.
Starting point is 01:39:06 He's on the same team as Khabib? No. No, he's a Mark Henry guy. Oh. He's a Mark Henry guy in New Jersey. Mark Henry told me about him.
Starting point is 01:39:13 They're kind of friends. They're friends. They're all from Dagestan. Okay. From the same place. Maybe they trained, maybe they came up together in the same club, right?
Starting point is 01:39:19 Maybe. Dagestan's pretty big. Khabib is always retweeting. Retweeting. Retweeting. Well, they're from the motherland but Zabib is always retweeting. Retweeting. Well, they're from the motherland. But Zabit is a very different game. I mean, he's not a wrestler per se.
Starting point is 01:39:32 He's got really good jiu-jitsu. He's got everything. He's got all games. He's got everything. So if you're Yair and you're a young kid, you just got your ass whipped by Frankie. Obviously, taking a year off, he's trying to figure things out. And you're going to fight Zabit, who I think could hang with the top five right now. You want to fight him right now when he's ranked, what, maybe 14th, 13th?
Starting point is 01:39:49 If you're going to fight him, let him fight when he's like 5, 3, 2, or when he's the champ. Not now. I know Zabit's people wanted that fight. I don't know if they made that fight, though. They didn't because I know Yair's agent. Congrats on a great win, Zabit. It would be an honor to fight you one day. We'll have to meet each other in the top ten,
Starting point is 01:40:07 which I know you'll make quickly in my next fight coming up, so stay tuned. I know Yair's agent really well. There's no way they'd take that fight. So you think that's what it is? You think they made a conscious decision? Now's not the right time to fight him. Wait until he's top ten.
Starting point is 01:40:21 And I agree 100%. He should be top ten already, right? He should be. In my opinion. Yeah. In my opinion, yeah. I watched him against Bokniak. And again, Bokniak's a super tough guy.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Say his last name. Kyle Bokniak. No, no. Zabip's last name. Magomed Sharapov. Fuck. It's not even happening for me. Damn.
Starting point is 01:40:39 It took me three years to get Nurmagomedov. I stumbled through it a couple of times at the weigh-ins. I stumbled through it, too. Did you At the weigh-ins, I stumbled through it, too. Did you have to practice? Well, you read it. Like, if I read it, like, I watched him fight, but when I watched him fight, it says Zabit, whatever the fuck his last name is. But it wasn't until I have to call it that I got to remember.
Starting point is 01:40:58 He has, like, a tie-dye. I have to hear it. Like, if I hear you say it, like, multiple times, then I ain't picking up. But just to read it, I'm screwed. Megamed Sharapov. Megamed Shar'm screwed. Megamed Sharapov. Megamed Sharapov. Megamed Sharapov. That's not that hard.
Starting point is 01:41:08 No. But they want you to just call him Zabit because like for American fans, like that's a hard sell. Well, Nurmagomedov is hard, but everybody calls him Khabib for the most part. Yeah. Zabit is super high level, man. I was so impressed with his striking. The way he moves.
Starting point is 01:41:21 And he had a broken fist. Yeah. Enter the fight. Entered the fight with a broken fist. Yeah, entered the fight. Entered the fight with a broken hand hitting the pads. He fucked up his knuckle. Mark Henry told me
Starting point is 01:41:29 he's the most talented guy he's ever seen come through his gym. Eddie Alvarez, Barboza, Frankie Edgar. Says the beat, by far the most talented guy.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Hey, how about that Kevin Lee fight with Barboza? Kevin Lee's a beast. How great did Kevin Lee look? Dude. See,
Starting point is 01:41:44 I think Kevin Lee, Khabib is a great fighter. He's a great fighter. Who takes who down? See, I think Kevin Lee does some things better than Khabib does, and Khabib does some things better than Kevin, but I think Kevin's better at the more important things. It's hard to tell who does what better. It really is because they're both so good at everything.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Not when it comes to striking. They both got good striking. No, no, no. Who's better at striking kevin kevin by a long shot but khabib's good too he's good yeah khabib's good but kevin that's a stretch it'd be better standing up the real question is going to be in the wrestling because khabib's in his number one goal is not stand up and have a kickboxing match with you it's number one goal is to maul you and whoever gets the takedown it all comes down to how good the guy on the bottom is off his back. Kevin's a better grappler. Kevin's a better grappler.
Starting point is 01:42:30 He's better at finishing from the back. Correct. Like he has a really good rear naked choke. And look at his mouth. And his pass and his finish. His passing in that fight, the passing in the first round. First of all, he took Barboza down quicker than Khabib did. Khabib struggled. Barboza shook him off a couple of times. But Khabib breaks everybody.
Starting point is 01:42:46 Everybody that grapples with him. You find out. You know Kevin has a higher takedown success. Right. But Khabib, even against guys that are really good like Dos Anjos, he mauls those motherfuckers. I agree. He mauls people. No, it's a great fight, man.
Starting point is 01:42:59 It's a great fight. It seems like Khabib is the kind of guy, he's new to the game. He's 25 years old? He's only 25. He's smart as fuck, too, man. Kevin Lee is smart as fuck, man. Kevin Lee-Khabib, to me, is the most interesting fight. Don't forget about Tony.
Starting point is 01:43:15 No, I was just going to say, as soon as Tony gets healthy. Don't forget about Trey. But he's out for a little bit. Tony-Khabib, I'd love to see that, but I'd love to see Tony Nate Diaz. However, with Tony being hurt, so I don't put him in the discussion right now. Kevin Lee Khabib's the fight. That surgery, that stitches,
Starting point is 01:43:34 the size of the fucking wound on him, I've never seen anything like that in my life. It was like a motorcycle accident. His whole LCL came off. That poor dude. I've never seen anybody with a more horrific surgical wound on their knee. That's heartbreaking, man.
Starting point is 01:43:47 That's like some 1980s shit. Like when they used to have to open you up in a suitcase and check around and replace shit. He's not a guy I'm worried about. You know, some guys, when they get injured, I'm like, oh, fuck. I'm not worried about Tony for some reason. Look at that, though, dude. Do you know how big that is? That's a giant-ass wound.
Starting point is 01:44:04 That looks like a 12-inch wound. They had to reattach the whole thing. That's a rare knee operation right there. The fact that that happened while he was just walking and tripped is so fucking crazy that a guy with his kind of balance, he must have been exhausted. That's the only thing that makes sense. He must have been just running ragged, doing all these interviews, and then peaking during training.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Just a freak accident. Well, yeah, I'm just making things up. I don't know what the fuck happened. Fuck, man. But it's such a bummer. Oh, we should talk about this. He's already training. I've talked about this before.
Starting point is 01:44:34 We should talk about it again. He was not wearing sunglasses. That was something. He misspoke. He said he was wearing prescription sunglasses to Ariel Helwani. Is that what he said? Yeah. It was a mistake.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Yeah. So everybody's repeating this, including me and Dana and all these other people. We thought he was wearing sunglasses inside like he does when he does those stare downs. It's not what was going on. Even if he was, I don't think that's- He was wearing regular glasses. He was wearing regular glasses. They weren't sunglasses.
Starting point is 01:44:57 It had nothing to do with it. He just tripped. I don't care what sunglasses. But people were mocking him. Oh, really? That sucks. Especially when the guy Is like at the door Of the most important
Starting point is 01:45:07 Fight of his career Tony would have fought Anyways I know He was gonna fight anyways That's crazy In a good way He was
Starting point is 01:45:13 He didn't care You guys remember Pride When Sakuraba would literally Wrap his legs up Like a mummy That's what Tony was gonna do The doctors wouldn't let him So he went to two different doctors
Starting point is 01:45:22 But Khabib's not fighting For a while Because of Ramadan right I don't know He can't fight Until the two different doctors. But Khabib's not fighting for a while because of Ramadan, right? I don't know. He can't fight until the end of the year. Where's Ramadan? He's out for a few months because of his religion. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:34 So then you do what? Eddie Alvarez? You know who fought through Ramadan? Went through his training camp through Ramadan is Bilal Muhammad. He figured out a way to do it. And the way to do it is to not train until nighttime. Make sure he eats first and then trains
Starting point is 01:45:50 at nighttime. But he did it. He fought well. No, he did it. He did it and he fought well. He just adjusted his training camp. I forget. I don't remember who he fought. You know what I'm saying? At a championship level, I would hold off too if I'm Khabib. Right. I see what you're saying. But you can do it. But I remember he fought a good guy. I would hold off too if I'm Khabib. Right. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. But you can do it.
Starting point is 01:46:05 But I remember he fought a good guy. I don't remember who it was. I remember watching it. It was interesting. Yeah, he figured out his schedule where he could pull it off. Yeah. It can't be the best way to go about it. Not the best way to go about it.
Starting point is 01:46:14 He's a badass, though. You wouldn't do it if it wasn't for your religion. There's no way you would do it. Just because for performance, there's no way you would do it. But you could do it. It could be done. Because you just got to wait until dark, right? If I'm Khabib though,
Starting point is 01:46:25 I just sun up, sun down. It's not that hard. It's not ideal though. It's not ideal. Well, it's fasting. It is ideal apparently. These days it's the best thing you can do. No, but it's not the way,
Starting point is 01:46:34 first of all, if you're going to do it, you wouldn't do it like that. You wouldn't do it during the day. You wouldn't do it like that and you would do it where you stop eating at like five in the afternoon and then you would go all through the night if you want to have a long...
Starting point is 01:46:47 Some people argue that's not good. Who argues that's not good? Well, just from our human genetics, that you're going to be hungry at night, right? So you don't get as good of sleep. Yeah, but it depends on what kind of foods you're eating. That's a big part of what it is. If you're eating a lot of refined carbohydrates, you're going to get really hungry at night for sure. And you're going to want to eat again.
Starting point is 01:47:08 But if you're on more of a fat-based diet, you could pull that off for sure. 100%. I did nonstop. Yeah, you could pull it off for sure. The real question is, is that the best thing to do for physical performance? And it's most likely not.
Starting point is 01:47:21 I would say no. Yeah, I don't think so. We had Zach Bitter in here the other day He's uh he weren't he all ready for this record this motherfucker ran a hundred miles in 11 hours and 40 minutes he was averaging a seven minute mile shit for almost 12 hours he weighs four pounds yeah He's a buck forty yeah, he's but he's a very thin guy He's on a fat-based diet. He's on a keto diet essentially, but when he goes to race he takes a lot of carbohydrates
Starting point is 01:47:52 He's a Nigerian No, Kenyan super smart Kevin super smart white dude really nice guy, but imagine that shit happens You know how strong your fucking mind has to be how strong your mind has to be to run 11 hours and 40 minutes is that a world record yep is it or the u.s record u.s record u.s american record who holds the record some canyons probably or mexicans mexicans can run marathons we don't play football or basketball but shit she could run for a long ass time in the mountains of Mexico City. Yeah, man. Well, that's what part of that book Born to Run.
Starting point is 01:48:29 The Chilapas Mountains. Yeah. Those guys who ran like basically barefoot. Yeah. Can't fuck with Mexicans. There's some boys in New Mexico too. They're like the number one cross country team. All the Mexicans there.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Hell yeah. Mexicans are known for cardio. They destroy all the white kids. Mexicans are really known for cardio. It's very interesting. Heart. Heart and cardio. Left hooks. Look at the boxers They destroy all the white kids. Mexicans are really known for cardio. It's very interesting. Heart. Heart and cardio. Left hooks.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Look at the boxers. Look at the MMA fighters. MMA fighters, boxers, yep, known for cardio. How about Julio Cesar Chavez? Left hooks. That motherfucker just was overwhelming. He never stopped coming at you. He was so beautiful when he was in his prime.
Starting point is 01:49:03 When he would throw combinations like to the body, to the head, uppercut, step to the side, right hand, left hook, right hand, to the body. He was just nonstop. His volume was so impressive. And his placement, just fucking amazing. Hey, what's going on here? The fights went so fast. They're just tossing his fights. Fedor's not ready.
Starting point is 01:49:21 The record is held by a 25-year-old Russian. What? Powerful EPO. Yeah. 11-28. I can't trust anything they do right now. After Icarus, man? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:33 After Icarus, you're like, wait, what? I hear Russian, I assume. You can't trust them? I mean, aren't all countries doing the same shit? For sure. 100%. 100%. They just got busted.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Once you watch Icarus, they'll get cut out. I saw it. Well, even when Zach was talking to me about the testing. True, they got cut. When Zach was talking to me about testing for these things, he was kind of letting on that one of the things that's different is the culture of the guys that run 100 miles. Like, it's not in the culture. Whereas
Starting point is 01:50:00 like in the cycling culture, it's a big part of the culture. Like, everybody does it. But in the, that ultra marathon world is a brain world. That's a world of how much can you take? You can physically do it. They're not doing anything crazy physically like Usain Bolt or someone who can just- They're not gifted genetically. Right.
Starting point is 01:50:17 But they're brains. They're all small though, right? I would love to do that. I'm too fucking sick. Another fucking sub! God damn. Beautiful bar. It's a seminar of jujitsu. It's a jujitsu seminar. Damn. Dylan's that. Another sub. Another fucking sub. God damn. Beautiful arm bar. It's a seminar of jujitsu.
Starting point is 01:50:26 It's a jujitsu seminar. Damn. Dylan's right. Seminar. High level jujitsu tonight so far. Very nice. His hair lines out too. What were we just saying?
Starting point is 01:50:35 What were we just talking about? Oh, I was saying those guys are small though. Genetically, they're not like freaks. I wish I could do it, but I'm just too goddamn big. Yeah. It's a shame. Well, you'd have to lose weight for sure. You'd have to dry yourself out.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Oh, yeah. It's too hard. I don't love it that much. Even when Cam, when he does the big ones, like when he did the Moab 240, he got down to 160, rather. 165, I think, even. Damn, he's a big dude. He usually weighs about 185.
Starting point is 01:51:00 He might have got to 160. He might have actually got right below 160. But he's so hardcore. Do you know how he did it? he just worked out burned 4000 calories, ate 3000 kept doing that he did something hard 4000 calories?
Starting point is 01:51:16 I wish they would show that again, but the way he set that arm bar up remember the teepee? you're crossing your ankles and you extend your legs instead of leg curl them? Well, he extended them and put everything in a right angle. And then he flipped it over. Yeah, then he hit the arm.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Dude, he has a sick-ass tattoo, too. That's some Game of Thrones shit. Do you know what I've been watching? Vikings. I can't get into Vikings. Dude, it's a good goddamn show. You've got to get four episodes in. Did you watch Westworld?
Starting point is 01:51:44 No, I haven't watched it. I heard Westworld gets too complicated now. I was lost. That's what I heard. I saw the first episode. I'm like, shit. What's going on? Did you guys refresh any of the old ones before you started the new one?
Starting point is 01:51:55 Because it's been a while. The preview is like three minutes long. They kind of give you a good background of it. I never got into it. Basically, the opening is all the robots. Don't tell me anything. Okay. Don't tell me.
Starting point is 01:52:07 How dare you? You'll find out right away. I'm just waiting for Game of Thrones. Spoiler alert. Were you confused? Don't get confusing. The first season was very confusing also. It took a while to figure out.
Starting point is 01:52:16 They're saying, what season are they in now? Three? Second. They're saying it's so confusing, they're losing subscribers. Ratings are just fucking. How do they know? It's one episode yeah i just read that i just read that bro it's the same thing you know what i think
Starting point is 01:52:29 people just write shit like that just to be assholes i think today yeah i think or maybe the writer's confused so like everyone's confused you talked about it see how you talked about it you talked about it because it's a thing that you want to hear and go oh man look what's going on over there no i don't care. It's too complicated. I like West. Oh, I heard they're losing subscribers. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:52:48 I heard they're losing subscribers. Why are you being a hater? So that's like if you're going to sell magazines or an article and you want to appeal to that mindset that we were just talking about earlier, that's what you would write. You're right. But I'm saying the last thing I read was that on Westworld. I don't watch Westworld. I've never – people dig it. You never watched it?world. I'm just going to tell you. People dig it. You never watched it?
Starting point is 01:53:06 No. You got to start from scratch. I'm telling you, it's a good show. I know. People love it, man. You can't do it? I don't know. You seem like you're never going to do it.
Starting point is 01:53:13 I'm talking to you right now. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was the same way with Game of Thrones, but then you guys talked me into it. That's my favorite show of all time. There you go. I'm telling you, dude. Same thing. Get season one of Vikings.
Starting point is 01:53:23 These dudes fuck people up It's fun It's on History Channel What's the premise? It's basically a historical reenactment of the Viking days Based on a true story? Yeah Ragnar Lothbrok
Starting point is 01:53:36 Who was a real Viking Oh real shit They wrote down every word Listen to me man They wrote down every word they said All throughout the day his whole life. So they got it. So it's there.
Starting point is 01:53:48 So he buys it. He fucking buys it. Who the fuck do you even get that can read Viking? You know, who knows what the guy said and did. But it's a really well-made show. The acting is fucking amazing. What season are they on? I think they have five seasons.
Starting point is 01:54:02 What are they trying to do? They're just trying to go from town to town? Dude, I don't want to fuck it up, but it's based on real sieges that they did when they attacked Paris. There's no spoiler. It's history. They attacked England. They attacked Wessex.
Starting point is 01:54:13 They killed a fuckload of people. They showed up on boats and just jumped out with axes and just started fucking up villages. It's based on that. It's a barbaric show. But it's really well done, man. I was skeptical. I never heard anything about it. And someone was saying, you've got to watch Vikings.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Netflix or Hulu? No, I got it on Apple. It's probably on Netflix. I don't know. It's a History Channel show. It was a History Channel show. I just subscribed to it on iTunes. I got that Apple, what is it, iHome?
Starting point is 01:54:38 What is that shit called? Apple TV. Yeah. I heard Frontier's good, too. It's about the fur trading business. Oh, yeah? With your boy. Jason Momoa? Yeah. Heard it's really good good too. It's about the fur trading business with your boy Jason Momoa. Yeah heard it's really good too. Hmm
Starting point is 01:54:48 Interesting. I don't watch any of them Vikings though. I'm hooked. I'm hooked. I just finished season three. Damn you're into it. It's fucking good man. It's a good show It's one of those underrated shows. You're like, how do I not know about this one? I've heard about I'm just not Vikings or like I love that shit yeah you do like that I love that shit I watch Teen Mom does did you guys watch wild wild country that's good oh I'm scared oh that's good to watch that wild wild country it's a docu series it's on that guy the the sex cult guy right yeah it's more of a it's like an Indian dude his name is um he has like three different names, but his religion was half Buddhist, half capitalist.
Starting point is 01:55:35 I'm in. I'm in. So you could be spiritual and live in luxury too. Yes. Yeah, he could do both. I'm in. Chael Sonnen. He says, I believe in luxury.
Starting point is 01:55:49 I believe we all should live in luxury. But if you can't live in luxury, I'm going to live in luxury myself. Is he a bad guy? That guy right there. Oh, yeah. He's super pimped out. He dyed his beard mint green? So what happens is they get kicked out of India.
Starting point is 01:56:06 So he has all these rich followers, and they built a city in Oregon. Holy shit. In the middle of nowhere. They built this gigantic city in Oregon in the 80s. And all these people from all over the world ended up moving there. And the surrounding towns, just like old white people, they go to war. And that's what the documentary is about. It's pretty awesome.
Starting point is 01:56:27 It's awesome. Was he having sex with everyone or what, man? I'm not really into it. It's not about that. It's about him starting a new city with tens of thousands of people in the middle of Oregon. And they got all these old white people out there going, what the fuck is going on? So was it about a sex cult? They believed in
Starting point is 01:56:46 free sex and all that stuff. Of course. But it wasn't. Who doesn't? The cult leaders are always just doing it for that. They're not focusing on that. It's more about they had the finances. They had a culture. They had the finances to literally build a high level city in the middle of nowhere. And when did this all go down?
Starting point is 01:57:04 In the 80s okay i'm gonna watch it i'm gonna watch it uh i can't watch it this weekend it's really good it's really good man you won't regret that one okay beautiful the cult leader's always charismatic and they're always trying to everyone why else would you start a cult why else why else well you just want everybody to just listen to you? No. I believe in long money.
Starting point is 01:57:29 And then you want their pussy. Correct. Come on. Every time. Cult of personality. And the type of person that would want to have all those people.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to move to Oregon. We found a spot. Yes, exactly. That's exactly what it was. So much of white people from all over the world. But they're rich. I know someone whose family was involved in that. Oh, exactly. That's exactly what it was. So much of white people from all over the world, but they're rich.
Starting point is 01:57:45 I know someone whose family was involved in that. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Did they say good things about it? No. It's interesting to see how it all comes crashing down, though. That's the interesting part. It's like, how does it come crashing down? Because it doesn't exist. I don't know what's going on with it. A friend of mine's
Starting point is 01:58:02 ex-girlfriend from like 20 plus years ago. She grew up in that. In that one in Oregon? I think it's that one. I'm pretty sure it's that one. She was a freak? I'd have to ask him.
Starting point is 01:58:13 I don't know how I'd bring that up. Really? You can't just text him? Yeah, I could. Hey, bro, watching this doc. Wasn't your old girlfriend in this? Yeah. Imagine that, man. Imagine you being in one of them cults and like being like 10 years old and like looking around going um what is going on why does the maharaja keep fucking my mom like
Starting point is 01:58:36 what's happening here you're not gonna grow up normal yeah you'll be pretty damaged um mom what are you doing well the sacred one brings to me blessings. Dude, he had all these Rolls Royces in the middle of Eastern Oregon. He would just, he had multiple, like endless Rolls Royces. Ballin'. I believe in luxury. And then the line is, if I can't manage to make everybody live in luxury, at least I can manage to live in luxury myself. Just full of shit.
Starting point is 01:59:03 At least I can manage to live in luxury myself. Just full of shit. Didn't fucking R. Kelly get in trouble recently? They think he's running a cult? Yeah, he has, kind of. He has these sex slaves, so he has one house. Kind of. Kind of. Well, no, what he does is he has one house where he stays.
Starting point is 01:59:19 Then he has a next door, he bought the house. He has a bunch of flock of bitches in there. And so the parents of those kids are like,'s holding them hostage they're sex slaves he's taking away their confidence when really he's just you know pimping yeah he's pimping pimping pimping r kelly part of his inner circle resign amid sex pet allegations is this today i haven't heard about the pets this last week this is what we oh my god i'm telling you about. Two high-profile women have resigned their roles after new revelations emerged in a BBC 3 documentary. Oh, that's what we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:59:54 How about that girl from Smallville? Did you hear about that? Yes. What the fuck is going on there? Yes. What in the fuck? She's trying to recruit actresses to be in the sex cult. When did she do all this with when did something run here?
Starting point is 02:00:06 When did she do is this from the past? I don't I don't know that Yeah, I think it's from the past a little bit. But also no, I think it should she go to prison for that Yeah, recent. Yeah, she was trying to get Emma Watson to join or something like that I don't know. This is just stuff that's coming on the mainstream medium. Maybe it's all bullshit. I don't know. Well, she's going to prison Oh, yeah, why would she do that? I don't get why you do it. They would have parties, this thing that she was involved in,
Starting point is 02:00:32 at Richard Branson's Island. Look at this. It says she's accused of being a leader and a prime recruiter for a sorority-esque group of young women who were manipulated into serving as slaves for male masters. She's facing 15 years to life, imprisonment
Starting point is 02:00:50 on the charges of sex trafficking, conspiracy, and conspiracy to commit forced labor. Okay, now let me ask you this. If you run into a bunch of girls, okay, say you're this girl, and your thing is like being in a cult with one master who gets to fuck all these girls, okay? Say you're this girl, and your thing is like being in a
Starting point is 02:01:05 cult with one master who gets to fuck all these women. Who's to say that you shouldn't be into that if you're her, right? And now who's to say if she goes and talks to a bunch of other girls and talks them into having sex with this guy,
Starting point is 02:01:22 why is that bad? That's what I'm saying. It's not what you want your daughter to do. it's not what you want your daughter to do. It's not what you want your sister to do. But we all know people that like getting tied up. 100%. We know people that like smacking each other and hitting each other and shit. And like being sex slaves.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Well, not really maybe slaves, but whatever. People like kinky shit. Let's just say that, right? They like kinky shit. Why is it that we can decide that that's too kinky? Well, because is she bringing those girls there and then they're keeping them? Right. That's the question.
Starting point is 02:01:51 If that's the case, of course. It says forced labor. It says forced labor up there, right? If you scroll back up. Right, but if you turn someone into your slave and you said, slave, you're going to clean my kitchen. And they're like, yes, master. And it's like part of some weird kinky shit you do.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Yeah. And then after they clean your kitchen, then you mouth fuck them. Yeah. Like if you just decide, like you have some weird, you have some weird, but people are weird like that, right?
Starting point is 02:02:13 And some people like it. Some people like weird shit. And then there's some people that get talked into joining a cult and they get talked into these horrible situations. They actually do become sex slaves. So how do you know which is which? How do you know which is a consenting of age adult who really loves being a part of some super kinky shit versus someone who's coerced into joining a sex cult and who is held against their will?
Starting point is 02:02:40 There's a line there, right? They seem kind of similar from the outside, but there is a line. I don't know what the fuck happened in this situation. I literally don't know anything other than the fact that she got arrested. I know what happens. She would get these girls and then they would get them naked and she would take pictures and hold it as a ransom or like blackmail
Starting point is 02:02:58 if they didn't fuck the leader. Oh. That got dark. Just hit me and I remember that. That's why she's fucked up. Okay, that ain't good. No. But it would be interesting. We're talking about that other guy with all the money in Oregon. If someone did that today, like some R. Kelly type guy, I'm not saying R. Kelly's a good guy.
Starting point is 02:03:16 I'm not saying what he's doing is legal. But what I am saying is it is possible. I don't think this is the case in this situation. But just as a what if. It is possible that you get together with a bunch of people who are really into that slave dominatrix type deal. Like some people are really into being dominatrices. Some people are really into being submissive. And they get together.
Starting point is 02:03:43 As long as it's men and women, we don't have a problem with it, right? As long as it's some guy who's like a CEO that hires some mistress to kick him in the balls. Stomp on his balls. Stomp on him and do it. It happens every day. We're totally cool with that. How do people survive that? That's a good question.
Starting point is 02:03:57 They just take the pain. Some people like getting kicked in the balls and kneed in the balls. I don't know. Repeatedly and as hard as you can. I know. They used to come into the strip club that I used to work at. And girls used to get paid to knee these in the balls like repeatedly and as hard as you can i know they used to come into the club that i used to work at and girls used to get paid to need these you know in the lap dance booth they would just need the shit out of their balls like how do you like that i don't get it maybe that
Starting point is 02:04:15 pain that feels like death to most people it feels different to other people that that that's like a rush can you imagine if that when you get hit in the balls you know that intense pain it's like a rush. Can you imagine if that, when you get hit in the balls, you know that intense pain? It's like a unique pain. It's not like getting punched in the stomach. Yeah, it's a unique pain, but there might be people that take that unique pain and turn it into just this high. For you. Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 02:04:36 You'd be a real psycho. There's people that are into it. You could watch that shit on YouTube. Frank had a good point when it came to Fedor talking about his losses when he came to the States. He's saying how he never trains in a cage. It's true. Was the cage a factor in any of his losses? Could have been.
Starting point is 02:04:53 Two of them. Really? Two of them. How? What happened? The fight with Henderson. He couldn't get out of the way. He couldn't move.
Starting point is 02:05:00 The Henderson fight, he couldn't get out of the way in the Verdum fight. Maybe. The Henderson fight, he couldn't get out of the way in the Verdum fight. Maybe. The Henderson fight, he had him side control. The ring is a more fluid thing. That's right. The Henderson fight, he had him in side control, and Henderson popped out of it. And underhooked him, popped out with the underhook. He wasn't careful with the underhook.
Starting point is 02:05:17 He had him side control. If you don't have that underhook and the guy on the bottom shoots the under, you can get the dog fight from side control. You don't even need quarter guard or half guard. But if I'm Fedor, that's like a tennis player only playing on grass when he's going to play on clay. What the fuck are you doing? What the fuck are you doing? It's 2018. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Can you not find a goddamn cage in Russia? There was times where he didn't want to fight anymore. So the question is, is he fighting now because of money? Is he fighting now because he doesn't know what else to do? Or is he fighting now because he's got a reignited feeling about competition and he likes it again dude go work security for putin get paid bro they're boys no shit that's a good that's a good call it's a good call he's your right hand man yeah he's gonna fuck with fader and rush there yeah i mean that would be i mean he's got to be a hero in russia oh dude
Starting point is 02:06:02 did you think we were going to war with Russia? No. With those Syria strikes? No. You never thought so? Not even for a second? No, I didn't think we were going to war with Russia. Everybody thought.
Starting point is 02:06:12 Everybody thought that. I'm scared any time bombs drop, though. Any time bombs drop, you're opening up the possibility of bombs dropping back. This is like, you know, I mean, even if what happened, the people on the other side that you're dropping the bombs on deserve it, it's still like, holy shit, I mean, even if what happened, what the people on the other side, the dropping the bombs on deserve it. It's still like, holy shit, we're in a fight. You know, anytime that happens, if you're not legitimately concerned that horrible things come out of it.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Yeah. But the idea of us going to war with Russia, I'm like, probably not. But fuck, man, I was crazy. I was in New York for that. I thought, holy shit. I don't know what is going on when it comes to foreign policy. I would be a joke if I pretended, which I have many times in my life. You don't know.
Starting point is 02:06:51 I mean, who the fuck knows what's happening with Russia or with China? I've been talking about this Huawei thing. Huawei is a big time cell phone or electronics company in Japan or in China, rather. Okay. And the State Department has recently recommended you don't buy Huawei products, and that they might be bad actors and spying on the people that own their phones. So they canceled a deal with Huawei to be an AT&T and Verizon and all these other cell phone providers here in the United States.
Starting point is 02:07:26 And they literally issued a warning. I was like, I've never heard of that before. And then there was something about some sort of hacking that they think they did. They're going to take them to court and prosecute them for something they did with Iran. This is another thing about it. But then I've heard people online say that they're suspicious that what this is is trying to squash china from entering the electronics market it's like the top three people in cell phones are apple samsung and huawei is number three worldwide it's a threat to stop huawei in america would be like an economic thing because they're worried about china
Starting point is 02:08:00 increasing the amount of money they have who can can you believe? I don't know. But you know, if you're interested in following QAnon, a lot of people analyze his drops, but there's a YouTube channel called Just Informed. Just Informed something. Just Informed, but he breaks it down every day. He talks about all that stuff. So it's all interesting because you got to know that if a company is that big.
Starting point is 02:08:24 And here's the thing that the super dorks, like Jamie and I have been going back and forth about this. Because the super dorks online, I say that with all due respect, the dudes who really understand cell phones, they're calling bullshit. Because they're like, if they were spying on you, these guys who develop apps and who understand phones, these super hacker type dudes, they would be able to find the code. 100%. They'd be like, this shit's spying on you. It's listening to you. Here's the code. This is what it's doing.
Starting point is 02:08:48 Microphone set to one instead of zero. I've heard as good as the Russian hackers are wherever in the world, the best are in America. Whatever they can do, we can find. Best everything. That's what they say. Right, son? No matter what the fuck it is. America.
Starting point is 02:09:01 We're best at sucking dick. Dropping bombs. America. Eating steak. America. Drinking beer. America. Frank Mir best at sucking dick. Dropping bombs. America. Eating steak. America. Drinking beer. America. Frank Mir.
Starting point is 02:09:08 Let's get it going on, Frank Mir. USA. Get in there. USA. USA. USA. Just Informed Talk is the YouTube channel that breaks down QAnon if you're interested. It's really good.
Starting point is 02:09:19 It's very interesting. Any predictions for this fight? That's a good question. Man, I think they're both at very similar places in their career, which is one of the reasons why this fight is interesting. Frank's been out for a hot minute. Sometimes when you get in there and you've had long layoffs, you say, fucking throw caution to the wind, so this could be super quick.
Starting point is 02:09:37 Why did Frank get released from UFC? What happened? Do we know? Didn't he do something? Did he test positive? He test positive his last one. How long ago was that? That was a while ago.
Starting point is 02:09:48 He's been out for two years. Remember he got fired for, he got, he lost his commentator. Yeah, as a commentator. He wanted to kill Brock Lesnar. Yes. Literally kill him. Yes. Fair enough.
Starting point is 02:09:57 He was a really good commentator. Great commentator. He was really good. He's commentating now for ACB. What's ACB? Like that Russian league. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's the head commentator for what's acb like that that russian league oh okay yeah he's the head competitor cb interesting interesting but remember frank's last fight he got knocked out by mark hunt and then he they let him go remember when he knocked out todd duffy though oh that was
Starting point is 02:10:18 crazy great frank mirror still showed in that that fight against a dangerous guy like Duffy. Frank's falling in love with his boxing, man. I hate hearing that. Well, I mean, he's a smart dude. If you, you've got to think his jiu-jitsu's still on point. He's so smart. Yeah, he's very smart. Very well read. Him and Josh Barnett.
Starting point is 02:10:37 I think they're the two smartest heavyweights that I've ever met. It's a good call. Josh Barnett's very smart. Very cerebral. That was a good fight. Yep. Josh Barnett's very smart. Very cerebral. That was a good fight. Yep. Josh Barnett, Mir. Remember Josh Barnett had him against the fence.
Starting point is 02:10:50 He had great head position and forearm position. Josh whooped his ass. Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude. That's right. It's a great fight for Josh Barnett. No, that's what I'm saying. It was just a great fight overall.
Starting point is 02:11:01 Just overall. It was a five-rounder, wasn't it? I believe it was five rounds. No, I think it ended pretty quick. Josh whooped his ass. Oh, no, no, no. I'm thinking of another fight. Josh beat his ass.
Starting point is 02:11:08 Josh beat his ass and knocked him out with a knee, right? Yeah. Josh fucked him up. He fucked him up. I'm thinking of another fight where Josh went five hard rounds. Was it against DC when it broke in? No, no, no. He beat somebody in a very impressive fight.
Starting point is 02:11:22 Oh, it was Roy. It was Big Country. Oh, yeah. He took him down. Yes, yes. Oh, it was Roy. It was Big Country. Oh, yeah, he took him down. Yeah, that was it. He beat the shit out of Roy. He beat the shit out of Roy, and it was a long fight, right? Wasn't it like a five-rounder? I don't know if it was five rounds.
Starting point is 02:11:36 It was three rounds of an ass-whooping, though. See if you find that, Jamie. Barnett is a monster. He's a bad motherfucker. He's a bad motherfucker. But him and Frank are the most cerebral, I think, to ever fight. That's why Travis Brown's elbows are so fucking impressive, that he put him out. He put Josh out.
Starting point is 02:11:50 That was weird when Josh rushed him, because he saw Gonzaga get stopped like that, and he did the same thing. I think he got clipped with a punch before he rushed him. Oh, and then he went down. I think, if I remember correctly, I don't remember correctly, but I remember those fucking elbows. To this day, we call that position the Travis Brown yeah is he done Josh you know sorry I don't know um Josh Barnett and Roy Nelson he has a five round yeah
Starting point is 02:12:13 five round I don't fight no no I'm sorry I thought a fight made a man event yeah yeah I was mean event yeah that's why it was overseas yeah it was a beating man it was a beating I was super impressive was a beating. I was super impressed with his cardio. And he would pass Roy's guard like, yeah. Dude, Frank does not look fat. Frank's jacked, man. Why did I see? I saw a photo.
Starting point is 02:12:33 It must have been from in the past where he was heavy. Like maybe while they were setting this fight up. Because looking at him now, he looks very fit. He looks great. He looks very fit. He was in studio with me. I told him, I said, man, you look shredded. He's like, I'm ready to go. Wow. I'm impressed. He does look very fit. Looks great. He looks very fit. He was in the studio with me. I told him, I said, man, you look shredded. He's like, I'm ready to go. Wow.
Starting point is 02:12:46 I'm impressed. He does look very fit. He looks great. So he must have been heavy when he started camp. Super heavy. Yeah, he was really heavy. That's what it is. He didn't fight for a little bit, so, you know, he's been commentating, playing a rush and shit.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Very interesting here. Here we go. This is only three rounds. They don't do five-round main events, huh? Nope. Only title fights. Here we go. What do you think about that? I kind of agree with that. Yeah, I'm not mad at it. I like three rounds. They don't do five-round main events. Nope, only title fights. Here we go. What do you think about that?
Starting point is 02:13:06 I kind of agree with that. Yeah, I'm not mad at it. I like five rounds. Three rounds, it goes too quick. I like five rounds for the smaller weight classes. That's a good point. My thing would be, man, the five-round fights are beatings, man. I mean, you really...
Starting point is 02:13:19 Oh, shit. Oh, Frank Mir clipped him quick. It's over. Oh, Fedor's in trouble. Oh, he's surviving now. Oh, shit. clipped him quick. It's over. Oh, Fedor's in trouble. Oh, he's surviving now. Oh! Beautiful takedown. Oh, he clipped Frank!
Starting point is 02:13:30 He didn't have the underhook right there. Again, that's why Frank stood up. They're just throwing. Nice knees to the body. They're just throwing. Holy shit. Oh, wow, this is going to be a quick one. I thought it was going to be a decision.
Starting point is 02:13:41 This is like Hagler-Hearns. This is phenomenal. If someone finishes it. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, he clipped him. It's over. That's it.
Starting point is 02:13:54 Oh, Fedor. What a war. Damn. Woo. Holy shit. Wow. You ready for this? Fedor Chelsonin's next
Starting point is 02:14:06 Oh my god Let that sink in Oh my god Oh my god Yeah, that's pretty crazy That's actually fun That's fucking good When is that gonna happen?
Starting point is 02:14:15 Wow, Frank Mears You know, and he almost had him He almost had him Frank almost had him What a great throw That is a great Great fucking hip toss, huh? That was beautiful
Starting point is 02:14:24 That bottom some time Dude Fedor Chelsonin Wow When was the last time Fedor won? Meldonado But he really lost
Starting point is 02:14:34 In Russia He really lost Yeah He got hurt in that fight Yeah that was a crazy fight I forgot about that fight Yeah So he
Starting point is 02:14:41 I agree he lost that fight He won it but he lost it So let's That was in Russia right? Yes Let's take that one Out of the equation He lost that fight. I agree he lost that fight. He won it, but he lost it. That was in Russia, right? Yes. Let's take that one out of the equation. Ishii? Damn, that's right.
Starting point is 02:14:56 Satoshi Ishii was his last fight, his retirement fight, in his last run, and then he decided to come back after that. Here it is. Look at this. Boy, he's all wild and loose, huh? Boom. Wait. The left.
Starting point is 02:15:07 Both hands down. Damn. What catches? This must be... Oh, right there. The left hand. Right on the chin. Oh, boom. Boom.
Starting point is 02:15:14 He's out. Wasn't a crazy hard shot. Just swinging. They're swinging wild, man. They're just going. Oh, shit. I feel like he caught him earlier than that, too. Just...
Starting point is 02:15:23 A little bit. That was the big one. The one that really hurt him. Perfect stoppage. God damn. There it is. Boom. It was the left.
Starting point is 02:15:32 Perfect left hand. That was nice. It's crazy. This is Fedor's first win in take out the Maldonado fight. Jesus Christ. How many years then? How many years? It's been a rough go for my man.
Starting point is 02:15:43 When was Ishii? He beat Singh Jadeep. Oh, that's right. That bullshit fight. Jesus Christ. How many years then? It's been a rough go for my man. When was Ishii? He beat Singh Jadeep. Oh, that's right. That bullshit fight. My brain goes, nope. That was when? 15? New Year's Eve 2015. He also beat Pedro Hizzo on January 21st, 2012. That was
Starting point is 02:15:57 after the Ishii fight. 2012? That was after the Ishii fight. 2012, really? Oh, yeah. The Pedro Hizzo fight was a crazy knockout, man. That must have been in Europe somewhere, right? He threw a leg kick and then faked a leg kick and landed a punch. Fedor started out against, I mean, a guy. Think about who's got better leg kicks than Pedro Hizzo.
Starting point is 02:16:18 Yep, M1. It was a Russian fight. It was a ruthless knockout, man. See if you can find that. He's won one, two, three. Jamie, pull up Pedro Hizzo versus Fedor. Do you notice anything on Fedor's record there? So he went on that five-fight winning streak.
Starting point is 02:16:34 None of it's in the States. Before that, three losses in the States. Comes back to the States, loses. Is this his first win in the States? Yeah. Maybe Brett Rogers was his first? This was a – look at this. Boom.
Starting point is 02:16:47 Boom. He threw a leg kick, and before that – was this the whole fight or just a highlight? I think it edited it real quick. They edited it? Yeah, the video. See, it jumps from 430 to – Jesus. He's still explosive.
Starting point is 02:16:58 He hit him with a leg kick first, and then he faked the leg kick and came in with that punch. He came in with that right hand and then left hook behind it, and he KO'd him. Jesus Christ. Yeah. He's still explosive, man hand and then left hook behind it. Jesus Christ. He's still explosive, man. Oh, yeah, man. Tonight he was explosive. Look, he's still fucking Fedor. He's still Fedor.
Starting point is 02:17:13 He's a legend for sure. But you tap him in the jaw and he'll go down like a regular guy. He is a regular guy in that regard now. All the fights that he's had, all the wars, the fact that he's in his late 30s, right? 41. He's 41? Wow, I thought he was 31. I'll tell you a fight I'd love to see that's never happening, so it's stupid for me to say it.
Starting point is 02:17:33 Francis Ngannou Fedor. Oh, my God. Why would you want to see that? Because they both just slang them thangs. How do you think that fight would go? I think Francis knocked his head into Russia. Yeah. Or Brock Lesnar fade over.
Starting point is 02:17:48 That's a better fight. If I had like a Willy Wonka golden ticket, and I gave it to you, I would say Brock Lesnar versus who? Who? Francis Singano. Brock Francis. And the poster is Just old school pride
Starting point is 02:18:06 It'd be so sick I like that I like that a lot Cause think about it Brock can win If he lands a takedown But good luck Not getting clipped
Starting point is 02:18:13 Coming in Such a dynamic fight It's nice seeing Fedor win man I gotta say I mean I love Frank Mir I'm a Frank Mir fan And somebody had to win
Starting point is 02:18:22 It's kinda nice Seeing him Dude jail Fedor I like it I like that a lot Is that the biggest fight In to win. It's kind of nice seeing him. Dude, Chael Fedor. I like it. I like that a lot. Is that the biggest fight in Bellator history? It's a very good fight, man. It's a very good fight.
Starting point is 02:18:31 And Chael's going to talk some mad shit. Fedor doesn't sell fights anymore. He's just off his name. That's what Frank was saying. He goes, dude, the media tour, I have to do everything. Fedor refuses to do interviews now. He doesn't do interviews. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:42 Well, I get it. He doesn't speak English. They all ask him questions. I'm Fedor, bitch. Yeah, figure it out, motherfucker. But the new fans are Oh, really? He doesn't do interviews, yeah. Well, I get it. He doesn't speak English. They all ask him questions. I'm a fan of our bitch. Yeah, figure it out, motherfucker. But the new fans are like, who? Who? Well, they know him now.
Starting point is 02:18:51 I see. I think even amongst the new fans, this is like, I mean, he's essentially like a Reggie Jackson type character. If you know baseball, you know who Reggie Jackson is. Even if you don't know a lot about him, you know who Reggie Jackson is. But if you're new to the sport, you're like, this guy's the best of all time? Seeing this stuff. But they don't realize his pride days.
Starting point is 02:19:10 Well, you've got to go back and watch the first Noguera fight. Or the Crow Cop fight. Yes. Or, you know, even the Fujita fight when he got clipped. The Kevin Randle one's a great one. Suplex, and then just a few moments later, catches his arm. Nasty. Yeah, man. Very man Very very very interesting
Starting point is 02:19:27 She's been translating for Fedor for 20 years Forever He just flies her in Yeah Maybe that's his girl She goes out back She puts a Make America Great Again hat on They catch her in Fedor's locker room
Starting point is 02:19:41 After she's wearing the MAGA hat If I was the manager I would make everybody in the camp Wear it just for the press Me too They catch her in Fedor's locker room afterwards. She's wearing the MAGA hat. If I was the manager, I would make everybody in the camp wear it just for the press. Me too. I'd be like, put it on, man. He's the president of the United States. What's the fucking problem? We're wearing his hat. He's hilarious.
Starting point is 02:19:54 What about Kanye? He's crazy. Kanye wearing it. But I mean, come on, man. How good would that be if all of Fedor's camp, including Fedor, had those red MAGA hats on? Yeah. That shit would be hilarious. It would go viral so bad.
Starting point is 02:20:10 If they were trolling. It'd be great. Tell you what, man, your boy Mitrione, I mean, that's a giant win for him. That was a giant win when he KO'd Fedor. Well, now Matt fights the winner of Bader, King Mo. That's a tough fight. Tough fight. It's a tough fight. It's a tough fight for Matt.
Starting point is 02:20:28 Matt, you know, if he's got an issue at all, it's not in his footwork or his knockout power, his movement. It's if the fight goes to the ground. Well, it's wrestling. Here we go. I want to hear what Chad has to say. Crank this shit up, Jamie. This is going to be great.
Starting point is 02:20:41 Look at it. I hate more than being right here in Chicago is being in this ring with you. This is going to be great. Look at it. Say something about him being Russian. His trash talking is so old school. Yeah, it's very pro-wrestling. It's just not very good. How do you not throw the Russian thing in his face? Look at this.
Starting point is 02:21:04 Damn, Chilson is pretty fucking big. Yeah, Fedor is a small dude as far as the heavyweight goes. Yeah, very interesting. God, I thought, you know what? I expect more, Chael. I thought you'd be like, the one thing I hate more than being in this cage with you, it's a Russian in this cage. America! They toss it on the trumpet.
Starting point is 02:21:22 U-S-A. Yes! It pulls out a mega on the Trump hat. U.S.A. Yes! It pulls out America, America. Yes! Great again. Hot. When is a fighter going to come out? I mean, has there ever been a time where you get more shit for liking the president? Never.
Starting point is 02:21:33 Never. Not even close. Not even close. I mean, at the very least, even if you didn't want him to win, now that he's the president, would you not want him to succeed? If he succeeds, it means we succeed. Do you want everything to be a catastrophic failure because your
Starting point is 02:21:49 guy didn't win? Or do you want him to get better at the job and be really good at what he does and be the best president that he can be and pull a bunch of shit off? Look what he did with North Korea. What's up with that? Maybe he did. Maybe he was a part of it. With both North Korea and South Korea giving Donald Trump all the credit. That's amazing. That's true. That's amazing. They said it on that maybe he did i mean maybe he's a part of it with both north korea and south korea giving
Starting point is 02:22:05 donald trump all the credit that's amazing if that's true they said it on cnn that alone shows you that his unorthodox style that you might be terrible if you're married to him or terrible if you're doing business with him or terrible if you're his lawyer or terrible whatever but that unorthodox style might have value to it but no one wants that value because they don't want him to win. It's a fucking weird time. It's almost like you're rooting against America because you feel so strongly about the president. Would you rather have him out or you want the economy to be better?
Starting point is 02:22:39 What the fuck are you doing? Here's the other thing. You want Mike Pence to be president? Are you sure? You don't know what you're saying. That is not a smart choice. That's not what you voted for. It's not what you want. What you should want is even if you don't like Donald Trump, what you should want is that he does a great fucking job. He goes after whatever, whatever, fill in the blanks, whatever thing you would like him to do. Even if he talks crazy shit and he gets on Fox and Friends and says a bunch of nutty shit, wouldn't you still want that guy to do the best job running the country?
Starting point is 02:23:15 This is where things get weird because I think most people say no. I think if they say yes, they're lying. What they want, they want him to fail. They want him to be the worst ever. Get impeached. That's what they want. That's what they want that's a flaw that's that's a crazy way of thinking it's not the way to look at it look i didn't vote for donald trump but i want him to do great because he's the fucking president like either someone else comes
Starting point is 02:23:37 along that's better and wins and takes over or why would i why would i want everything to go bad even if i didn't vote for him. That's so retarded. Everybody, if you had a doctor, this is a good example. No, maybe it sucks. But if you had a doctor and the doctor was a dickhead, the doctor's fucking annoying, but he had to fix your knee. But you know he's the best at fixing knees. You're like, this guy's a dickhead.
Starting point is 02:24:00 I hope he fucks my knee up. That's how retarded people are. You would never say that. It's only hurting you. He's the only guy who can do this operation. Brendan, you've got to listen to me. I know the guy's an asshole. Let him operate on your knee.
Starting point is 02:24:12 He's going to do a great job. He's going to talk shit. He's going to try to fuck your mom. But he's going to do a great job fixing your knee. There's a video. People that hate Trump accuse him of being racist. And there's a video of ice cube 50 cent shaquille o'neal like five or six celebrities and now kanye west that uh they
Starting point is 02:24:33 don't think he's racist they go out donald trump is badass he's a well he tells it like it is the question is like was he when he talked about mexicans on the campaign trail was he playing to people that are white supremacists? And what, does he understand that he has a base in those people? And does he defend that base? That was about Charlottesville too. Correct.
Starting point is 02:24:52 Because he was saying that on both sides, there's, there's problems on both sides, the protesters and the KKK. You got to just, and sometimes, and he was right. There was problems on,
Starting point is 02:25:02 on both sides, but they were there because of a white supremacy rally. And the most important point is that that alone is a ridiculous way to think. And that as Americans, we can't tolerate someone who only likes people that come from the same part of the world as them. Or people that only have the same color skin as them. Or the white race or the pure race. Because that's stupid. It doesn't even fit up with what we know about IQ standards.
Starting point is 02:25:24 If we really wanted the master race, we would be all trying to be Asian. Correct. Okay, because they dominate in IQ to the point where they're suing Harvard right now. There's an Asian American group that's suing Harvard because the standards for Asians to enter Harvard are more stringent than even white people. They're harder because they're better because they get in more because their brains work better than yours. Jesus Christ. But see're better because they get in more. Because their brains work better than yours. Jesus Christ. But see,
Starting point is 02:25:47 this is not a popular narrative. People don't talk about this. But no one is saying that. If you're out there saying that the white race is superior, you're not even paying attention to the facts. Does Trump say that? No. Definitely not.
Starting point is 02:26:03 For sure not. But the white supremacists do. And they want to keep a clean... And it doesn't make sense. The general population thinks that Trump thinks like that, too. That's not true. There's no evidence of that. There is no evidence of that. That's what they think.
Starting point is 02:26:14 But there is evidence that he understands that he has a base and that his base is white people. There's a big part of it is white people that are fed up about political correctness, white people that are fed up about being said they're racist just because they're white, or black people that want to hand out. There's a lot of racists that have welfare problems, people that are on welfare, they're taking our money, they're taking our jobs. There's a lot of that going on. And he knows that those people, there's a percentage of those people that I'm sure support him.
Starting point is 02:26:40 So you got to be real careful. And they're saying he plays to that side. Yeah. But no one's saying there's any evidence that he's like that. But he did say racist shit about Mexicans. When he was talking about how they rape and murder and they're like, someone's doing the raping,
Starting point is 02:26:53 someone's doing the murder, the crime. Well, the crime is out of control. But he's not being honest about that. That's obvious that he's trying to win. Because if he's being honest about that, what he would say is, the reason why there's so much crime is because drugs are illegal. If we made drugs legal, we could sell these drugs to these people in America. It would be run by businesses instead of being run by the mob.
Starting point is 02:27:15 The demand is undeniable. It's undeniable there's a demand for cocaine, heroin. America likes their drugs. But there's also a demand for alcohol. There's also a demand for plenty of things that are bad for you in America. ZR1s. You go buy a 770 horsepower Corvette Z01 that goes 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds and just drink all the fucking Red Bulls you want and get on the highway and stomp the gas and you're
Starting point is 02:27:37 in a spaceship. That's crazy too. That's a legit spaceship. That's all crazy. So is doing heroin. You probably might die more driving a ZR1 like an asshole than you would be doing coke. But you're also going to kill more people in that ZR1. You might.
Starting point is 02:27:49 Look, there's a lot of ways people could fuck up their life and other lives around them that are absolutely legal. We just make this decision that once something is illegal like drugs, and I don't think you should do coke. I don't think you should do heroin. But I don't think you should. If you like to do it, though. I don't think you should fucking drink till you're dead either. And do heroin. But I don't think you should... If you like to do it, though. I don't think you should fucking drink till you're dead either and people are doing that every day.
Starting point is 02:28:07 We're hypocrites in that regard. And this idea that the only reason why these people are over there raping and murdering is because they're Mexican, that's what's racist. He said that? That's what they're saying. It's over in Mexico.
Starting point is 02:28:19 Someone over there is doing it. But why are they doing it? I'll tell you why and you know why. They're doing it because drugs are illegal. That's how the cartel makes their money. But what do you think about the wall? What do you think about building a wall? It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:28:31 You shouldn't build a wall? You shouldn't have secure borders? What we should do is help Mexico. We should figure out some way, and one of the best ways to help them would be make drugs legal. Correct. That would be one of the best ways to help them. Stop the cartel. Another one would recognize that what Mexico is just like, how is Mexico in terms of the amount of distance?
Starting point is 02:28:50 How are they as close as they are to us? Not us, but New York is us. You can get to Mexico in two hours, dude. You could drive to Mexico from L.A. in two hours. But that's another country. Not even us. But we decide that Maine is us. That shit is way the fuck over there.
Starting point is 02:29:13 These people are attached to us. They're right there. They're connected. You could walk there. It's not outrageous to walk to Mexico. They're right there. They're people. They're people. Nations are resources. So what are we supposed to do?
Starting point is 02:29:25 They're people. Nations are ridiculous. Nations are ridiculous. Making a one world government? No, not even a government, man. We should have rules that we all agree on. Our problems are when teams go against other teams. But if we're all on the same team,
Starting point is 02:29:41 then we compete against each other economically the way we do in cities. That's why we don't have wars in cities. We don't have city wars, right? The reason why we have wars with other countries is because we think of each other as being on another team. There's crime in cities, but there's crime in countries. What we really need is to abandon this idea that we're all in these fucking tribes.
Starting point is 02:30:00 And I'm not saying I support one side or the other, but when Trump was saying that, isn't a lot of the violence is from the Mexican cartels and stuff in America? Some of it, yeah. A lot of it. Salvadorians, right? No, it's 100% real. But it's propped up by drugs. And until you address the root of what gives them money and causes the violence, we're just talking nonsense.
Starting point is 02:30:20 So the primitive way to approach it is to say, this team is going to go against that team, so we're going to put up a wall to keep that team from coming over here. That's not going to help. They're still going to get over here. If you want to look at the entire future of people, the entire future, it's eventually going to come to a point where there's going to be an easy way. They have these Pixel, and the Google Pixel phone, they have these earbuds that allow you to translate someone's language in real time. So if you were talking to me in Spanish, I could hear it through these earbuds for the
Starting point is 02:30:49 Google Pixel phone, the Pixel 2, and it would translate. So I could go to Mexico, I could talk to some cat who knows Spanish, he and I could talk, and I could understand what he's saying. It's going to come a point in time where that is way simpler and way easier. We're all the same language. It's going to be a point in time where that is way simpler. We're all the same language. It's going to be all the same language. And then it's like, why is there a war with Mexico and not a war with North Dakota? Why am I not on the same team as someone in fucking Tijuana, which is right there?
Starting point is 02:31:18 Why am I not just like those people? Why are we on different teams? Says who? Says why? What benefit is that? This is some old school shit that we only needed because we didn't know what the fuck people were doing because it was like Vikings. They would show up in boats and start raping and murdering.
Starting point is 02:31:32 But they're not doing that to the people that are in their village, right? They're not doing that to each other. Well, they do it because they think people are the other. So this idea of the other and the idea of the tribe, it's an outdated idea. It's an outdated idea that maybe it's not time. It's time's not done now, but it's time is done in a hundred years or a thousand years the future is people just people it's not germans versus the french versus the russians versus the
Starting point is 02:31:55 italians that shit is retro it's stupid it's just like it's just like tribes of fucking ancient hominids just sneaking in when they didn't even speak languages and clubbing each other and raping each other and doing all the shit that people have done forever. Plus, California, Arizona, and Texas were Mexico. How about California's trying to separate into three spots? I know. Is that real? Yes. It's going to be on the ballot.
Starting point is 02:32:17 It's going to be on the ballot in what, 2020? Is that what it is? Maybe. They can collect the votes. If it wins, what happens? There's going to be a South, North, Central, South. Really? There's going to be LA. There's going to what happens? There's going to be a South, North, Central, South. Really? There's going to be LA.
Starting point is 02:32:26 There's going to be one. There's going to be California. And then there's going to be Southern California, like San Diego way, up to Bakersfield or some shit. It makes sense, though. If you're going to go off the old game plan, the old map, it makes fucking California so big. This is why it makes sense.
Starting point is 02:32:43 If you drive from LA to San Francisco, you drive through Kentucky. I don't know how it happens, but you drive by God is great signs and don't have abortions. Here's a doctor. This is Jesus loves you. It's farmland. It's not what you think it is. And there's nothing wrong with Kentucky. I'm talking about it's rural.
Starting point is 02:33:02 It's rural. It's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. But it's rural. It's farmland.'s beautiful, yeah, yeah. But it's rural. It's farmland. There's a big part of California that's farms. Yeah, but isn't it the South is the one struggling and the North is killing it, right? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:33:15 It's political, man. It's all political. Right, but it's not that anybody's killing it. It's that they don't feel represented. See, there's more people in San Francisco and in Los Angeles by far than the rest of the state. But the state is huge.
Starting point is 02:33:30 Like, you know, it takes, you drive from, everybody thinks that San Francisco is Northern California. The fuck it is. There's hours of driving until you hit Oregon. Way more Northern. How many hours does it take to drive from San Francisco to Oregon? Four. I want to say.
Starting point is 02:33:44 Four. Is it four? I think so. I want to say. Four. Is it four? I think so. I'll say three. Somewhere. I'll say a little bit more. I'm going to say four and a half. I'm going to say four and a half hours.
Starting point is 02:33:52 What does it say, Jamie? I don't know where it's taking it. I'm on the second. Okay. I'm saying four. Sticking to four. You might be right. I'm just guessing.
Starting point is 02:34:00 I like three. It's a grip of space. Five. Five hours. Five hours. Five hours. See, there's a lot of fucking space up there, and those people are all rural. It's like that's where the Green Emerald Triangle is and Humboldt, and they're growing all the fucking weed. It's beautiful up there, man.
Starting point is 02:34:16 It's beautiful up there. It's like a rainforest. I could live up there. Dude, I've been to many, many parts of Northern California. It doesn't even remotely resemble Southern California. No, hell no. So these people, they don't feel represented. LA's all goofy. They feel like this is just some liberal, delusional hotbed. And they also don't like a lot of the laws, the laws
Starting point is 02:34:34 in regards to wildlife management. Or the taxes. If you live in Sacramento, why are you paying the same tax as someone that lives in Malibu? Yes. The taxes are off the charts here. They were saying that 500,000 people this year are going to move out of California and New York because of taxes. Just because of taxes. But say if you live in Oxnard, should we be paying the same tax as someone who lives on a beachfront property in Malibu? No fucking way. How fucked up is that?
Starting point is 02:34:57 No fucking way. Makes no sense. But you aren't. You're paying more if you live in Malibu because you're paying more. You make more money. So your higher percentage of your property, your property is worth more. Yeah, but still, you're still paying a high fucking rate if you live in Malibu because you're paying more. You make more money. So you're a higher percentage of your property. You know, your property is worth more. Yeah, but still, you're still paying a high fucking rate if you're in Oxnard to live in California.
Starting point is 02:35:10 The rate is ridiculous. It's crazy. Well, you know, also it's ridiculous when you realize you don't have to pay that rate if you go other places. Like, I know guys who've moved. What's the best state for taxes? Florida is pretty good. Texas. Florida is good if you have a business.
Starting point is 02:35:23 You know, I know guys that have businesses that move to Florida because if they sell their business, they don't want to pay 13% to the government in California. And they can't take your home if anything happens there. There's a lot of places where you don't pay state tax. Washington, you don't pay state tax. Nevada, you don't pay state tax. This might be, I think what I'm reading right now says this is not just a plan to split the state. It's to split away from the United States to make it its own independent country.
Starting point is 02:35:47 So much for that plan. Some wacky dude. I've got a Rolls Royce and I love pussy. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Is luxury? That's definitely not happening. If there's luxury I can have. I believe in luxury.
Starting point is 02:35:59 That's not happening. That's not happening. So that's out the window. Florida and Texas is the big one where the business people or people want to save their money. that's not happening. So that's out the window. Florida and Texas is the big one where the business people
Starting point is 02:36:03 or people want to save their money. But look, the United States is fascinating in a way that you could find out where the laws are best for you and you go, look,
Starting point is 02:36:10 we're just going to fucking take a chance and move to Montana. You know, you live in Montana, you're living in a place with like 3 million people instead of 30 million people.
Starting point is 02:36:18 You live in a place where you're like butted up against the fucking Yellowstone Park and looking at mountains and shit and wolves at night. Is it true that you could take the world's population and fit them all in Texas, all
Starting point is 02:36:28 in their own house? Is that true? That's really true? Yeah, it's true. How crazy is that? Texas is gigantic. Well, but we're talking about all of China and all of Africa in Texas with everyone else. There's something about Texas where-
Starting point is 02:36:42 Is that true? Yeah. That's true, right? The amount of European countries you fit in Texas, it's kind of crazy. It's like the whole world can fit in Texas. Yeah, humans. With their own house. Yes.
Starting point is 02:36:51 Everybody with their own house. Eight billion. That seems unbelievable. Eight billion. Yeah, eight billion people. You can put eight billion people in Texas in their own house. Eight billion houses in Texas? Well, you know, Texas is a different state, man.
Starting point is 02:37:03 It's not like any other state. Apparently, Alaska too. You could do the same thing in Alaska. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, if everyone lived in Texas is a different state, man. It's not like any other state. Apparently, Alaska, too. You could do the same thing in Alaska. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, if everyone lived in a 10 by 10 room, yeah. Well, Alaska is the biggest, and Texas is the second biggest, right? Isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:14 So, doesn't it seem, if that's the case, then overpopulation is a myth. It's got to be. No, it's not a myth. Because it's about the resources and space. You could jam everybody in Texas, but it would be like Mad Max. It would be fucking terrible. No, keep going. Still, that's Texas
Starting point is 02:37:30 and the rest of the world is empty and then the rest of the world is empty. You'd have to grow food in the rest of the world and people would be sucking it out in truckloads
Starting point is 02:37:38 every second. We'd be eating each other. We'd be on top of each other. I don't know. No, overpopulation is not a myth, Eddie. If we could fit everybody in Texas, it's a myth Eddie overpopulation everybody in Texas
Starting point is 02:37:45 it's a myth no no no no here's the thing first of all it's not sustainable this is the problem with overpopulation right now we're okay if we just kept this number the human race could survive the real problem is we're not keeping this number son no this number is gonna grow this number was two billion whatever the fuck it was in 1950 and it's it's 7 billion now. When did we figure out? People are having less kids, though, now. I have so many friends in the 40s that have no kids. It's not like it was in the 50s. Not in China.
Starting point is 02:38:12 In first world countries. That's one of the things about the rest of the world. They're outbreeding us. I know. Radically. Not in Japan. There's been studies done. Every time I'm on a plane, I see emptiness and barren wasteland everywhere I go.
Starting point is 02:38:23 I don't see overpopulation. I see emptiness everywhere I go. God, Eddie has a point here. No, that's true. When you fly over the country. But there's places where you can't grow shit, Eddie. You're flying over Nevada, you're looking down. You can grow shit anywhere. You can grow shit anywhere. What they did with Vegas is they tricked everybody into thinking
Starting point is 02:38:39 you could live in Nevada. They made Henderson, they made Vegas. They basically built these places in a place they shouldn't have built places. They found they had a crazy rule. They could do whatever the fuck they want there. This is what's weird about Nevada is Nevada has two weird things. One, nuclear testing.
Starting point is 02:38:57 They did a fuckload of nuclear testing. You see the fucking, there's a map or a a video rather, that shows you the map of the Earth and it shows you all the nuclear bombs they set off in Nevada. And you're just like, Macaulay Culkin from Home Alone by the end of the video, like, what?
Starting point is 02:39:13 Do you remember those old nuclear test videos where they show like a building and then like this hurricane of nuclear energy going through it? Like, what I, everybody remembers those right how
Starting point is 02:39:26 Did they film that they set cameras up? How did the cameras know they had to be see if they've set what kind of cameras are those listen? They're very far away when all the shit is going down, and here's it though the scariest thing is not those buildings They do because they got hit so hard The scariest thing is the ones when you see the bombs in the distance miles away and these guys jump up out of their – They jump up out. The shit goes over their head. They're in these ditches and they jump up and run towards it because they didn't know shit about radiation back then.
Starting point is 02:39:56 Jesus Christ. So they had these soldiers practice. The idea was that you would drop the nuclear bomb on people and then they would run towards the bomb because the people would be so fucked up and disoriented that you just take over the city. Jesus Christ. But meanwhile, these people are running right into radiation. Growing like three eyeballs.
Starting point is 02:40:12 How come people in Vegas aren't born with three heads? It's not Vegas. Some are. But still, it's close enough. Nevada's big. Nevada's big. Yeah, but those nuclear test sites are not that far from Vegas
Starting point is 02:40:24 where they're blowing up these nuclear bombs all the time people in Vegas should be growing fucking three dicks for the next thousand years you know there there's a story about John Wayne that John Wayne was filming a movie now I wasn't gonna need you on this one Jamie the John Wayne was filming a movie in like the 1950s, whatever the fuck it was. He was doing those Westerns. And that during that time, they were in an area where they were doing tests, nuclear
Starting point is 02:40:52 tests, and everybody on that movie set got cancer. Everybody. Say that again. What does it say there? The movie So Toxic, it killed John Wayne, the tragedy of the Conqueror. Yeah. That was about, wasn't it about Genghis Khan? How do they know
Starting point is 02:41:05 that movie killed them? I mean, how would they know? People were getting cancer all the time. No, but I think a bunch of people got cancer.
Starting point is 02:41:11 People were getting cancer from the polio vaccine. But like all of them got it. Did you know that? That like a million people from the polio vaccine. What does it say, Jimmy?
Starting point is 02:41:21 Does it say anything? I'll find the more of it. I don't even know if this is a true story. Oh, you know that. You know that. you to pay for it. I don't even know if this is a true story. Oh, you know that. You know that. You've heard that. Yes.
Starting point is 02:41:27 I don't know if this is a true story. I need to get verification. I feel like Eddie's dropping some knowledge today. I'm not dropping no knowledge. I'm keeping it fun today. I know, but it's a good point. There's a lot of land when you're flying. I fly nonstop.
Starting point is 02:41:38 I think it's true. I think the same thing when we're flying. I'm like, God damn it. Overpopulation. Pollution. The thing is, you'd have to turn all that shit into farmland to feed all those people. That's easy. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 02:41:48 I don't know. Just dirt. Yeah. It's difficult. Just dirt. There's definitely room. The question is for how long and how many people can you feed off that dirt? Like, if you're in Nevada, how many farms are in Nevada?
Starting point is 02:42:02 What does it say? Scroll up. Conker filmed on a nuclear test site. Good move. Yeah. Howard Hughes, the director, and Bill Powell knew of the dangers and had assurances from the Atomic Energy Commission that it was safe. But apparently, even John Wayne supposedly brought a Geiger.
Starting point is 02:42:19 I don't know. This might have been too long ago to get accurate information. John Wayne played Genghis Khan. Yellow face. It's terrible. Super racist. It's so terrible. You watch it to get accurate information. John Wayne played Genghis Khan. Yellow face. Terrible. Super racist. It's so terrible. You watch it and he's like, I'm Genghis Khan.
Starting point is 02:42:31 I'm Genghis Khan. Get my horse over here and I'm about to take over the Chinese. Dude, I hate old movies, man. I can't watch any of them. Put that out. We should do a fight companion. It's so bad. Let's do a fight companion for John Wayne's Genghis Khan.
Starting point is 02:42:45 Some people are into it. When people say gone in the wind is the best move of all time, fuck you. You don't see that on the tarp, bitch. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Look at the paragraph.
Starting point is 02:42:54 Hold on. What does it say, Jamie? A lot of people got cancer on the set. Wow. How many people? 90 of the 220-person crew did. 46 of those people died. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:43:04 Some of the, all the main actors apparently all died of cancer within 25 years of the movie coming out. Whoa. You might be able to say that about any movie.
Starting point is 02:43:11 No, no, no. I mean, so many people die of cancer. No, no, no. Isn't cancer the number one killer? No, no, no. Isn't everybody?
Starting point is 02:43:16 No. Are you muscular? No. The cancer's up there. That's a high rate, though. That's a high rate, dude. That's not like, go back to Jurassic Park,
Starting point is 02:43:23 everyone's still alive. Yeah. That movie's long. You would think there would be a lot of people, like now, even today. These nuclear bombs were going off in the 50s.
Starting point is 02:43:33 It's like 50, 60 years ago. a guy who's always a conspiracy guy doesn't recognize this conspiracy. That these dummies didn't understand what the fuck
Starting point is 02:43:41 they were doing with nuclear bombs. That's not a conspiracy, though. It is a conspiracy because they shut everybody up about this. That's not a conspiracy, though. It is a conspiracy. What website is that? They shut everybody up about this. That's not a conspiracy website. It's on YouTube, so it can't be real.
Starting point is 02:43:48 HowStuffWorks.com. What was that? HowStuffWorks.com. That's legit. That's mainstream right there. That's legit. HowStuffWorks.com. That's as mainstream as you can get.
Starting point is 02:43:56 What does that mean? You know what's mainstream? The JRE. This is mainstream as fuck. Hell yeah. This is mainstream as fuck. So what does that mean? 5,000 downloads a day.
Starting point is 02:44:10 No, I'm kidding. What does this mean like what does mainstream mean it doesn't mean it's not real i don't know just because how you said it was a conspiracy no what i'm saying is you said it was a conspiracy theory and i'm like no no that's not what i said that's not what i said i said the conspiracy to keep this quiet the fact that the government's nuclear tests most likely killed John Wayne and a shitload of actors from fucking cancer in the desert. They were dropping bombs not knowing what the fuck they were doing. And there's plenty of evidence that they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. If you watch
Starting point is 02:44:36 the videos of old nuclear test sites with soldiers running towards the blast Have you seen those? They're fucking insane. It looks like I don't know. All that old footage looks like it doesn't look authentic. It looks looks like they faked all that shit What about I don't know? I'm a retard. You think nuclear bombs are fake? Is that what you're saying to me? I you know, there's a conspiracy theory that that Nuclear bombs actually don't exist that they never actually figured it out,
Starting point is 02:45:06 but they realized that the threat of nuclear bombs is good enough. But Eddie, you can see the bombs. The atom bombs? But how do you know by seeing them that they're real? Did you ever see the one where they dropped the bomb in the ocean and they didn't know how much of a blast it would create? But what I'm saying is, all I'm saying is, all I'm saying is,
Starting point is 02:45:25 but all I'm saying is, how do you know it wasn't just a regular powerful bomb? Like, how do you know, how do you know by watching a bomb go off, but how do you know it's nuclear if you watch the bomb? Pull up the nuclear test in the ocean. I don't know what a nuclear bomb looks like when it blows up.
Starting point is 02:45:37 I don't know. Compared to a regular bomb. I don't know. How would you know the difference? Eddie, Eddie. Eddie, Eddie. I don't know. Eddie, listen to him.
Starting point is 02:45:43 We have things that can test nuclear radiation. But I'm saying, how can you tell? Because you can do tests. I'm not a bomb expert. Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. Listen to him. We have things that can test nuclear radiation. But I'm saying how can you tell? Because you can do tests. I don't know. You can do tests with those instruments. But I've never done those tests. But you can. You can.
Starting point is 02:45:52 I have. I don't know. Can you? I don't know. Eddie, you can though. You're not willing to. This is something that you're studied in. I'm saying I don't know.
Starting point is 02:45:58 I know, but I'm just saying I don't know. But I'm telling you, you can. How can people look at a bomb? You're saying someone else figured it out. How can you look at a bomb? You're saying someone else figured it out. How can you look at a bomb? I think you're thinking about shit the wrong way. I really do. No, I'm just saying if there was videos of 20 bombs going off, would you be able to pick out the nuclear bombs?
Starting point is 02:46:14 Eddie, they make these giant mushroom clouds. They're very unusual. It's not like a regular bomb. I'm not saying. Pull that video up of the bomb in the ocean. How can anybody tell? Like a regular person, how could you tell? Before you ask that question, I think you should probably talk to a nuclear physicist.
Starting point is 02:46:28 I'm just asking questions. I don't know. But to question it like it's not real is ridiculous. They killed how many fucking people in Nagasaki and Hiroshima? How do you know what kind of bomb that was? Watch this. Watch this bomb. Aren't there still...
Starting point is 02:46:41 Look at this. I don't know. How do you know what kind of bomb that is the craziest amount of power you could ever imagine i could never imagine something that can blow the ocean a mile into the sky okay and that's just one video of it there's another one of those videos where they do it from a distance where you look at the water where it's falling from i get that if you could find one do you understand it could be a nuclear bomb i'm saying all i'm saying is, how can
Starting point is 02:47:05 you know for sure? Look at that. How many whales died in this? Oh, everything died. Everyone. They made some tuna salad out of that motherfucker. All the fish are fucked. Look at the water come down. How crazy that is. That boat's fucked though, huh? Look at that. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:47:22 Yeah, I don't know what kind of bomb that is. I don't know. Look at that. That's a big explosion. That's high. That's. Yeah, I don't know what kind of bomb that is. I don't know. Look at that. Look how high that gets in the sky. That's a big explosion. That's high. That's big. But I don't know what conventional bombs. Well, what difference does it make?
Starting point is 02:47:32 Because Eddie's saying the reason why they threaten nuclear bombs is to keep everyone kind of chill, but we might not have the... They've got the power to do that, dude. That would wipe out a fucking city. But maybe you could do that with just regular conventional bombs. Maybe that's like 10. What I'm saying is I don't know. Right. Well, you would wipe out a fucking city. But maybe you could do that with just regular conventional bombs. Maybe that's like 10. What I'm saying is I don't know. Right.
Starting point is 02:47:49 Well, you should find out. I don't know. This is a nuclear bomb. I mean, the scientists all agree there's no conspiracy. The conspiracy is amongst idiots. Because people that are talking about it online, they literally have no idea what they're talking about. And they're spreading this nonsense. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:48:02 I don't know. I understand. I understand you don't know. But don't even bother questioning it. It's a waste of time. You're going down a rabbit hole for no reason. You're wasting all this time. How do you know?
Starting point is 02:48:11 How do you know? How do you know? I don't need to know. What do you care about me wasting my time? I could waste my time on whatever. Why are you so concerned? Why are you so concerned about me wasting my time? Because you waste our time too.
Starting point is 02:48:21 Why? It's an interesting conversation. We start talking about whether or not nuclear bombs are real. We don't want answers, though. We don't have to talk about this. We don't have to talk about this. Why don't you want to find the answer to it? Why don't you just want to question it? You could look up the answer.
Starting point is 02:48:30 You could go study it. You could look up. Yeah, you could look up anything. It's not going to look up. If you literally want to know the answer to this particular question. You could look it up on Google. No, no, no. I'm not finished.
Starting point is 02:48:39 Library? No, no. You could go to college. Okay. You could get a professor. You could find any number of people that have the answers, could show you how to study them, could prove the test to you, could lay it out, could give you all these instructions so you could go do it on your own without anybody else.
Starting point is 02:48:54 I don't care about it that much. Then why, again, then Joe's point, why bring it to us in question? I just don't trust anything I can't verify for myself. You don't have to get mad because of that. Why are you mad because of that? You're getting mad right now. Because I don't trust shit from the government? I can't verify for myself. You don't have to get mad because of that. Why are you mad because of that? You're getting mad right now. Because I don't trust shit from the government? You can verify this.
Starting point is 02:49:11 You just said you can't, but you can. That's the issue on some of these things with science. Have you verified it? Yes, they are verifiable. How did you verify it? I went to fucking physics class at college. I got an A. Okay.
Starting point is 02:49:23 So that proves nuclear bombs? Yes. He understands it, Eddie. I didn't make it to that class. I At college. I got an A. Okay. So that proves that he understands it. I didn't make it to that class. I quit college. I didn't keep going down the nuclear class. That's farther in than physics 111 and 112 at Ohio State. They don't give it to the freshmen. It's high level. That's it. I mean, if you want
Starting point is 02:49:39 the answers, you can go get them. It's not just questioning the world. This is why it's frustrating. Because you don't want the answers. You just want to question everything that the in air quotes government says who cares why are you so angry i'm not it's frustrating why because the world being flat because nuclear bombs being fake because dinosaurs not being real all those things are crazy they're a giant waste of time. For who? For us. When we're talking about it. Let's talk about something else.
Starting point is 02:50:07 Okay, but you like talking about those things. Hey, I didn't bring up nuclear bombs. You guys did. I didn't bring it up. But you really argued it for a while. I'm just bringing up questions and you're getting angry. I'm not angry, Eddie. Okay, good.
Starting point is 02:50:20 Do you hear me being angry right now? You guys sounded angry. You said you were frustrated. What's frustrating? Frustration usually is in there with anger. I'm just saying the one fun point Eddie was making is like, man, I don't know nuclear science or anything like that. So how do you know those atom bombs are real compared to a regular bomb? It was a fun conversation. That's it.
Starting point is 02:50:40 Justin makes up your fucking calves, Jamie. Game seven tomorrow morning Big game You can look into a lot of this stuff and you can't find the answers That's my only point And when you're talking over me that's where the frustration comes from You're angry I'm not angry
Starting point is 02:50:57 Stop telling people to not get angry You're using that as a defensive tactic Because he's making a good point He keeps saying people are angry. Okay. You say it's frustrating. We could say that you're angry because you don't believe in the government. You're angry.
Starting point is 02:51:13 I don't trust the government. You could say that. We could say, why are you angry? I do say that. No, we could say that to you. We could say, why are you angry? That doesn't get anybody anywhere. We're just talking about the reality of these facts.
Starting point is 02:51:26 You guys can believe whatever you want. Okay. All right, I will. Okay. I believe everything I've been taught and learned. Go right ahead. I'm not angry at you. That doesn't frustrate me.
Starting point is 02:51:39 I don't care what you think. But am I wrong then? No. You can believe whatever you want. But why would you continue to question it? Hey, Brendan. That's a nice shirt. What is that?
Starting point is 02:51:49 Thanks, man. A lot of floral. Floral's in right now, fellas. Floral is in. Is that flowers? Floral is in right now. That's like abstract. If you go to Hawaii, make sure you wear a nice Hawaiian print.
Starting point is 02:51:58 It's in right now, Joe. I know you're not big into style. Should you wear a Hawaiian shirt with the buttons? Yes. Because those are the only time you should wear those. They're in right now. They're in right now. I used to wear those on stage like an asshole.
Starting point is 02:52:10 Did you really? I thought they were cute. They're back now, so you'd be good. Oh, they're back. You know what's in. Do you have any idea at all what's fashionable? Not at all. No idea.
Starting point is 02:52:19 I have no idea. I'm wearing the same jeans from 10 years ago. You'd be into fashion. I like fashion. But why are you into fashion? I don't know. Since I was a kid, I was super like fashion. But why are you into fashion? I don't know. Since I was a kid, I was super into fashion. I just love fashion.
Starting point is 02:52:28 Huh. I don't know. I couldn't tell you why. I collect shoes, like the trendy whatever's going on. But you're one of the rarest straight guys. It's really- I know. You'd think I'd suck a ton of dick.
Starting point is 02:52:39 That'd be a conspiracy theory. But you really do enjoy it. Love it. Like, you like funky shoes. Yeah, I think I got a job on E they're like you're not gay
Starting point is 02:52:47 I'm like no I'm just super into fashion well girls like dudes that are into fashion generally yeah but he genuinely likes it
Starting point is 02:52:55 yeah I love it you like looking good I read about it GQ magazine all that stuff oh shit okay nothing wrong with that when you were shooting
Starting point is 02:53:03 your special in Boston I erased the text because I was going to be like, dude, what are you going to wear? And I was like, I'm not going to send that to him because I'm not going to send it to him. That's funny. That goes through my head, man. I have outfits picked out weeks before.
Starting point is 02:53:17 Like, I have a show in Minnesota. Wait a minute. You have outfits picked out weeks before? I have shows in Minnesota. I have my outfits already picked out. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, I dress terrible always.
Starting point is 02:53:26 No, it's your style. It's not terrible. It's not. You don't dress like an asshole. You make an effort. Thank you very much. Yeah. I wear shirts that are too big for me.
Starting point is 02:53:34 They don't fit me right. I just wear 10 Planet shirts. That's a good move. Jiu-Jitsu shirts. That's your business. That's a good move. They're good shirts. They're free.
Starting point is 02:53:42 What do you do when your style dies off? Do you get rid of the clothes? Evolve. Give them to Salvation Army? Yeah, evolve. I give it to Salvation Army. Yeah, I knew it. So you're not even stockpiling the old shit.
Starting point is 02:53:53 You don't want to be caught dead with the old clothes in your house. Hell no. Hell no. How many pairs of shoes and sneakers do you keep at any time? Probably around 150 right now. Get the fuck out of here. What? Young Jamie can relate to that.
Starting point is 02:54:07 150 shoes? Yeah. That is so crazy. Damn. And then now you know what's happening is I post on my Instagram story like kicks of the day or studio kicks and now companies are sending me shoes. So I post on there. It's a vicious cycle.
Starting point is 02:54:21 This Ninja Warrior shit is ridiculous. This Ninja Warrior shit is going on in between Scientology commercials? I was hoping you guys were going to look up earlier if Felice Herring ran. Oh, how'd she do? She didn't do very good. It's tough. Unless it's your thing, it's fucking tough, man. Dude, you know what I've been digging?
Starting point is 02:54:37 I'm sure it's not very, you guys aren't going to dig it. Your wife will. It's that Peloton bike. You like that? Fuck, I burn a shitload of calories. I can do it. It's good. 45-minute class. I only fuck with Robin NYC.
Starting point is 02:54:48 She's a little beast on there. I refuse to use anyone else. Dude, people love those things. It's fun, man. They love them. I still box and shit. Quit looking at me like that, Eddie. But I jump on a bike, man.
Starting point is 02:54:58 Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. I like being outside, man. I like running hills so much. My cardio, I try to do all outside, except that I have that rowing machine thing and the air bike. My problem is if I have to be on set at 7, that means I leave the house at 545,
Starting point is 02:55:16 so I'll get up at 430 and knock that out. So just in my house and then go. Damn, dude. Jesus Christ. How often do you do Fighter and the Kid? Twice a week. And then Big Brown Breakdown? Below the Belt podcast Monday mornings, then shoot below the belt.
Starting point is 02:55:30 It's not the Big Brown Breakdown anymore. It's Below the Belt, son. Why'd you change it? Because I get a show on Showtime. The government came to him. They forced his hand. Forced me. They forced him.
Starting point is 02:55:40 I just made it all in sync with the show on Showtime. First of all, using Big Brown is now cultural appropriation. Correct. You can't use that anymore. I know they called you Big Brown, but you can't use that anymore. No. Because you're not brown enough. Not brown enough anymore.
Starting point is 02:55:52 You should get a DNA test. You get some 23andMe and find out you got something in you. Did you really get in trouble for using Big Brown right there? No. You might have some. You just didn't like it no more? No, I liked it, but I was doing, I got my show on Showtime, Below the Belt. Oh, so you killed that.
Starting point is 02:56:05 And so the pod, I didn't kill it. It's the exact same show. I just wanted all the same brand. What if you had like 18% Moroccan? What's the brand? Below the Belt. So everything's Below the Belt? Below the Belt with Brendan Shebia.
Starting point is 02:56:15 Okay. Come on, man. TV show podcast. What if you found out you were like 18% Moroccan? What if you ever do one of those 23andMes? No. You got some stuff in you. I'd love to do that.
Starting point is 02:56:26 I'd love to find out if I was like 5% black or something Maybe Like 1% That girl That girl Whoa Vicky You ever heard of Whoa Vicky? No
Starting point is 02:56:33 The young girl? She's There's this epidemic of these young rappers Bro These young white rappers that are Completely insane This girl will make you want to pull your hair out. She makes so much money.
Starting point is 02:56:46 Her name is Woe Vicky. She's just throwing money around. She's a little white. She's like 15 years old, right? Or something like that. And she talks like the ghettoest kid you've ever met. She's claiming she's part black.
Starting point is 02:56:54 What'd you say, Jamie? Little Tay or Woe Vicky? Little Vicky. Woe Vicky, right? Little Tay also. Oh, Little Tay is worse. She's like 10 years old. Bring up...
Starting point is 02:57:02 And they're just throwing money around. She's the Asian one, right? She's like, yo, bitch. But you watch this and you're like, oh shit, we're screwed down the road. Scary. like 10 years old. She's the Asian one, right? She's like, yo, bitch. But you watch this and you're like, oh shit, we're screwed down the road. Scary. And they're huge. And then Tekashi69? You guys hear of Tekashi69? Oh my god.
Starting point is 02:57:15 They make more money off YouTube than you guys do. So we're screwed in terms of the future of the human race? Correct. Because they're looking up these kids that have millions and millions of followers. All they do is bring out stacks of hundreds and get on Instagram Live, and just start throwing down the money. She bought a helicopter. Lil Tay. Let's try to find a good one here.
Starting point is 02:57:34 Whoa. Here's their fight, actually. She had a fight with somebody? Yeah, the Cash Me Outside girl? Cash Me Outside. They all ran into each other at the Glendale. Let me see this. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:57:43 You want to run somewhere? Oh, don't walk in front of Let me see this. Oh, shit. You want to run somewhere? Oh, shit. See the floral print, though? Floral print. Put your bag down. Tough stuff. Put your bag down. Damn.
Starting point is 02:57:57 That's Woe Vicky right there. She's 14. That's a little tight. She's 14. That's a little tight. She's 9. One's 14 and one's 9? Yeah, the floral print hoodie is 14. Look at how many views this has, Joe. She's trying to hit a 9-year-old?
Starting point is 02:58:22 They have bodyguards, too, which is the funny part. Oh, so this is not really a fight. Are you lying? Oh, they get into a fight. No, they get into a fight, yes. They physically fight. Right here?
Starting point is 02:58:29 Yeah, it's on... I don't know where the second part is. Don't tease me, bro. She just tries to reach over. It's nothing major. You gotta show the white girl, though.
Starting point is 02:58:39 I don't want to see little girls fight like that. Whoa, Vicky, just talking shit, throwing cash. What? I dropped 200 racks on this car, and I'm only nine years old. I've got the keys to this car.
Starting point is 02:58:51 What? Yeah. See this? These are butterfly wings. Y'all haven't seen this car in your lives. I've been driving this around the Beverly Hills area, and I'm only nine years old. I've got no license, but I ain't ever going to get no license. Little Taylor. Okay. That's what they do. Stop. How crazy license, but I ain't ever going to get no license. Little T.
Starting point is 02:59:05 Okay. That's what they do. They're huge. They're rich for this. Five million followers. Who's behind that? The parents? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:59:12 Who's holding the camera? I don't know what's going on. It's scary. That's somebody behind it. You've got to go to the white girl who thinks she's black. Whoa, Vicky. Didn't that seem super prepared? Yeah, whoa, Vicky.
Starting point is 02:59:21 Didn't that seem like super rehearsed? I don't get it, man. I don't know what's going on.'s hilarious though this is whoa Vicky was she the other one there was a tall one that was in the back yeah the tall one what she's the worst one you just had she's the worst one yeah actual page no yeah whoa whoa Vicky talks so much and she claims she's part black that that's her right there oh I saw that she that girl. Look at this. Listen to her....ass kids that keep commenting about me in a
Starting point is 02:59:47 bad baby situation. Y'all don't even know what really happened. That bitch is scary. That bitch snuck me from behind while I was on the purse trying to on the ground trying to grab my purse. Let me tell y'all something. This bitch waited till I was 18 to really fight me. Like,
Starting point is 03:00:03 bitch, we had beef for a whole year. I just turned 18. Okay, I can't do this. How crazy is this? This will fuck your life up. She's huge. I don't feel good right now. She bought a helicopter, Mr. Moon.
Starting point is 03:00:14 She bought a fucking helicopter. Oh, my God. Whoa, Vicky. Damn, kids are fucked, huh? Kids are fucked. The future's fucked. Dude. And then that Tekashi69 guy, he looks Mexican to me, but he's claiming, I think he's claiming
Starting point is 03:00:29 he's black, right? No. He says the N-word all the time. All the time. All the time. And it's okay. No one's kicking his ass. It's totally okay.
Starting point is 03:00:38 He's Puerto Rican, though. They can do that up there in the Bronx. Puerto Ricans can do it. He looks like a regular Mexican guy from East LA. Mexicans can't say that, but Puerto Ricans can. How weird is that? Have you seen him? That is weird.
Starting point is 03:00:48 Have you seen him before he went on a dance floor? He has songs in the choruses where he's using that. It's part of the music. Yeah. He says it so much. But you can do that if you're Puerto Rican. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:58 That's crazy. They got in through a grain of law. And he's had six number one hits in a row. He's killing it. He has rainbow hair. Yeah. He's got rainbow grill. He's got a rainbow grill now.
Starting point is 03:01:08 That's new, right? He has a tattoo of 69 on his face. And he has- And also that monster from Saw. That fucking guy. That's right. He has 69 tattoos on his body. How do you know who he is?
Starting point is 03:01:18 Jamie forced me. There it is. Look at that. Jamie forced me into watching him. He has 69 tattoos 69 times on his body. Is that the one? That sounds smart. You're the one who told me that, I think. Let has 69 tattoos 69 times on his body. Is that the one? You're the one who told me that, I think. Let me see his face with the new grill.
Starting point is 03:01:30 Because the new grill is off the charts. He looks like a dude from East LA. And meanwhile, we're talking about him, so he wins. Yeah, he does. He's in trouble for pedophiles. I follow him, dude, in every post. I watch every post. What?
Starting point is 03:01:41 He's in trouble for what? For pedophiles. A 13-year-old. Come on. Yeah, he's catching a case. How old is he? That's what my friends say, catching a case. Catching a case.
Starting point is 03:01:48 You're like down on the street. Look, he's got a spiderweb tattoo on his face with that saw guy. What's that saw guy's name? Pinwheel or something like that? Pinhead? Some scary shit, though. Did anyone see the new saw with just that guy, Jigsaw? Jigsaw.
Starting point is 03:02:03 Jigsaw. Look, he's got 69 on his belly. That looks like marker. He's got a tit on him. He just lost his $5 million headphone deal because of what happened at the Broner fight. What happened? He was in a beef with Adrian Broner. Who's that?
Starting point is 03:02:15 The guy, a boxer. Boxer. Oh, shit. Famous boxer. And I guess somebody in his crew, there was a beef with another rapper and a gun went off in the backstage. So he lost his headphone deal because of that. God god damn it and how many million dollars was his headphone five million dollars for a headphone all he does is get on instagram and just throw money i saw it's
Starting point is 03:02:34 crazy he makes me watch and he makes hits though that's where he's getting his month his fame yeah six number one songs in a row it's crazy world we live in it's fucking It's a crazy world we live in. It's fucking nuts. It's a crazy world. Yeah, go to that middle one with his grill. Look at that. Click on it. Is that a video? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:51 Listen to him. Listen to him. Before I get to that, I want to show off these. How can you chew with those? He got like sharp. Made by Jimmy Boy, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:03:00 He flexed up on that one. But I want to make a public show announcement. For these past couple days I've seen like There's a couple females That are trying to expose me or some shit Like
Starting point is 03:03:10 There's a lot of you Like I can't even name a certain There's a lot of you Yo like Have a little bit more respect for yourselves And I say that in a way because Y'all need to get past That it was just like a one day thing
Starting point is 03:03:24 You know what I'm saying Okay Can you imagine if your daughter brought that home y'all need to get past that it was just like a one day thing. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Can you imagine if your daughter brought that home? You're like, where'd you find that? Go to Home Depot.
Starting point is 03:03:32 Is this music good? I've listened to clips of like 10 second clips. I'm old enough now where I don't know. It's not for me. Go to Home Depot and get some ropes.
Starting point is 03:03:40 People are loving it. They're eating it up. He's huge. Locks the door. Dude. The music business is a whole new era. Nail that door shut. It's fucking.
Starting point is 03:03:49 You'd have to call the doctor. You'd have to get a psychiatrist. Is this a song? Oh my God. No, no, no. No, no, no. It's here. It's here.
Starting point is 03:03:56 No, no, no. Just 10 seconds. I can't. We can't play it. It'll get us taken off of YouTube. Okay. I can't afford that anymore. It might be great.
Starting point is 03:04:04 You never know. Here's my question. If this is ridiculous, right? What is the next thing after this shit? Look at this motherfucker. Damn, this guy is ninja-ing the shit out of this stuff. I got pissed hard. Go ahead.
Starting point is 03:04:14 Go ahead. Piss. We still going for a while? We'll keep going. Look at this motherfucker on Ninja Warrior, man. I'm super impressed with the way this dude is traversing this. I think there are people that call cultural appropriation on this Takeshi sex nine guy no really what do they call everything on everybody making I don't know this I don't know who's behind him
Starting point is 03:04:32 either like the managers that behind him there's a couple other guys that are making a shitload of money like him is it a is it a producer project is it my planned did they pluck this guy go okay this is perfect for our like he'd have to really get a god it's willing to tattoo his face. You know what I mean? That's some fucking... I don't think that's that crazy right now. So many people have tattooed faces.
Starting point is 03:04:53 That's some serious commitment. Tattooing your mug. Millions of dollars. Yeah, but I mean, it might not work. You're stuck with $69 on your face like an asshole. I think they probably might wait until they get that first big check and then maybe. Did he wait? I don't know about him particularly. There's a controversy
Starting point is 03:05:10 between is he a blood or is he a crip? And he's claiming he's both. I'm friends with both of them. Something like that. But he wears an awful lot of red so people think that he's a blood. What a weird, weird word. cut that shit off shut it off
Starting point is 03:05:27 stop we can't do this anymore jamie he makes me watch this guy all the time jamie's got his thumb on the pulse of the straights he tells me i follow him on instagram i find him fascinating well there's a lot of fascinating people today man that's the new also shows me these girls with giant butts that's he knows all no real ones real ones real giant you know the real ass you can tell they're not because of the diaper but diaper but is a rather thing that looks real that's real as fuck dude Jesus Christ that makes me uncomfortable it's hot in here you know what's here so here's a fascinating thing the ass was not a big deal for a long time for a long time you go back to like linda carter and
Starting point is 03:06:13 wonder woman you never saw her ass ever the ass was not a thing man yeah the ass fair faucet you never saw farrah faucet's ass right never but, if a girl's gonna be a hot chick, she's gotta have a banging ass. If a girl's like in a movie as a hot chick, there's gonna be
Starting point is 03:06:30 a point in the movie where you see her in a pair of tight jeans and you go, whoa. Right? Yeah. Did T-Rex a lot set that?
Starting point is 03:06:38 Like when he did Big Butts? I think he probably blew up Big Butts. Everyone's like, all right. He blew it up. He blew it up. He blew it up. It was definitely a moment.
Starting point is 03:06:46 But always in the Mexican community and the black community, we were always into big butts. We didn't need society to tell us that. We didn't know what the hell it was. We were just like big round butts. But if scientists came from the future and they're studying the size of asses, they'd be like, well, there's a noticeable jump in women's asses at a certain point in time in the 20th century like what is that i saw this documentary once called the history of sex it was on the science channel or something was a five part documentary and they were getting into
Starting point is 03:07:16 why we we like certain things from the opposite sex and butt, apparently, the reason, well, obviously, like tits. We like tits if they're big. We like them because we know they're going to be able to feed the baby. So we get a little endorphin rush. Big because a woman can have birth, give birth easier. So you're attracted to that symmetry. According to this documentary, the fat in the butt, during the third trimester of pregnancy that's when the brain develops and and uh the brain is developed from uh uh fat from the ass according to this documentary so
Starting point is 03:07:54 i guess we're looking at big round asses for uh smarter babies evolutionary that's what that documentary said i don't you know who knows well they definitely know the shape of a woman that's attractive to us is because that's the most fertile women. The women that's going to be most likely to hold a baby to term and raise the child. And that's why all those qualities that you like, you know, like what a lot of men are really attracted to nurturing women. You're really attracted to a woman who wants a cookie dinner. You know, a woman who wants to like give you a massage. To a lot of guys, that's a big deal because that's like a nurturing type woman
Starting point is 03:08:28 that would be not just that way to you, but that way to your children too. We're talking about why scientifically are men into big asses. We're also talking about how back in the day, asses weren't a big deal with Farrah Fawcett. You never saw Farrah Fawcett's ass. Wonder Woman.
Starting point is 03:08:44 Marilyn Monroe. No. Marilyn Monroe was cur Woman. Marilyn Monroe. No. No. Marilyn Monroe was curvy. Yeah. Marilyn Monroe was the first curvy. But nobody was, she wasn't sticking her ass out.
Starting point is 03:08:51 You're right. She was curvy though. You know when it might have happened? J-Lo? Remember Vida Guerra? Yeah. J-Lo was before that. She was famous,
Starting point is 03:08:58 but she was famous just for her ass. That's true. Just for her ass with no internet. No internet, dude. Magazines. Everybody knew who she was. V's true. Just for her ass with no internet. No internet, dude. Magazines. Everybody knew who she was.
Starting point is 03:09:06 Vito Guerrero. Remember that shit? The all-time ass queen. Yo, this was pre-internet, right? Pre-social media. She was the best butt ass ever. Get the fuck out of Dodge with that ass. And that was earned.
Starting point is 03:09:20 It was DNA and earned. That wasn't- She's Cuban or something. Yeah, that's exactly what she was. I know a guy. I know a guy. Taking bags of fat and stuffing it in her ass. You know him too.
Starting point is 03:09:29 I know him. Who dated her. And he was not into her. Why? Why? He just. Likes dudes? No.
Starting point is 03:09:40 Probably. I don't know. But he says just there was nothing to talk about with her. Hey, man, sometimes that happens. I'm not trying to talk with her. Sometimes you just want to have a conversation, bro, and snuggle. She's a singer, too. Hey, dude.
Starting point is 03:09:52 Sometimes you just want to talk about books. She put out an album. You know, sometimes with a gal, you give her a book and you say, hey, before we do anything physical, you read this and I want to read it. And then let's talk. Let's talk about the book. Dude, that was a great fucking reference, talk. Let's talk about the book. Dude, that was a great
Starting point is 03:10:06 fucking reference, Joe. I forgot about Vita Greer. She was my favorite. I had a poster in my college dorm room of her. See, what's impressive is her ass
Starting point is 03:10:14 superseded the internet. It like bypassed it. Are you sure it was before the internet? I think it was. Wasn't it right at the internet? The internet was there but it wasn't why
Starting point is 03:10:23 she got famous. She got famous from magazines, bro. She was in Lowrider. She was on top of that Lowrider with that ass out. For sure, she had a push from the internet. There was dudes passing her picture around and shit. She would have been way bigger if she was current
Starting point is 03:10:36 now. Yeah, what I should say is well, there's a lot of girls like her now. She'd get lost in the shuffle. What I'm saying is like then she was one of the few girls that people would pass her photos around pre-social media. Correct. So it wasn't like it was like this girl on an Instagram page and she had 10 million followers
Starting point is 03:10:51 because of her ass. It was like guys like you would go, dude, look at this. And you would send it to me and I'd go, Jesus. I hung a poster up in my dorm room. And people emailed each other. The FHM Maxim. What year is this, Jader? Doesn't say.
Starting point is 03:11:05 Doesn't say in the bottom of the barcode. 2005. She's probably done 500 magazines. 2005. This is pre-social media. Was she dating Nicholas Shea or some shit? MySpace time. Oh, MySpace time, but that wasn't the same as like Twitter, Facebook.
Starting point is 03:11:20 I bet she had a tremendous MySpace, right? Oh, probably. She probably crushed it. Do you think she had Tom right in the upper left-hand corner? What? Tom. Tom was always your friend. Remember when Tom was always your friend?
Starting point is 03:11:31 He was forced to be your friend. It's fucked up, though. You always had him in your fucking top eight or whatever it was. That might have been her MySpace. Yeah. Is she still relevant on Instagram now? Is she all old and weathered? Or is she like, well, what's homegirl's name?
Starting point is 03:11:48 Who's the dime piece? Who's on Modern Family? 600,000. Oh, she's still killing it. She still looks good. Congratulations. Yeah, I'm not mad at her at all. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 03:12:00 Hey, let's see if you find an actual. There it is. Still strong. Still doing it, girl. Strong. Strong game. She's got like horses. Oh, God.
Starting point is 03:12:11 Jesus. That's some DNA. That's from the motherland. I don't know where the motherland is, but wherever it is, that's from the root. Wherever she's from is the motherland. She tapped into that shit like maple syrup. God doggy. Didn't she date someone really famous?
Starting point is 03:12:27 I hope so. I hope you can come on the show and tell us about everything congratulations what are we doing good for you still doing it let's end this with her i'm getting hot god you were saying it was hot earlier right a lot of dudes up in here that's i'm feeling all weird fellas funky it's only dudes so we got through this she's gonna have a million followers after this podcast uploads. People know who she is. This is our first fight companion other than kickboxing outside the UFC. That's right, man. It's good.
Starting point is 03:12:53 It's been fun. Sorry about the nuclear war. Sorry about the nuclear war. I thought you made some good- They're real. Those bombs are real. You just got into the points you were making, bro. I get it.
Starting point is 03:13:01 You just get a little caught up in conspiracies, and sometimes it's just- I get it. I think dinosaurs are real, bro. That's all I'm saying. I get it. You just get a little caught up in conspiracies and sometimes it's just... I get it. I think dinosaurs are real, bro. That's all I'm saying. I dig it. My son thinks so. I'm in Minnesota this weekend. Friday, Saturday, Minnesota. Oh, shit. Where are you? House of Comedy, Mall of America. Beautiful. And I'm in West Nyack the following weekend. You know, that's trivia. That's where Ari Shaffir got arrested
Starting point is 03:13:20 or was almost getting arrested for dropping off edibles. Was that where it was? Wasn't it? Yeah Minnesota Westside T5K.com Me and Sam Tripoli Tinfoil hat comedy In San Francisco At Cobb's
Starting point is 03:13:30 Oh shit Oh shit Friday June 1st And then at the punchline In Sacramento Saturday June 2nd
Starting point is 03:13:38 Get your tickets At LiveNation.com Thank you Dude you've been to me With me at that place A dozen fucking times Yeah That's a big room
Starting point is 03:13:44 That's a great room. Cobb's in San Francisco. One of my favorites. It's beautiful. Love Cobb's. And the next show at the Comedy Store, I don't know if it's sold out. We're doing those Joe Rogan and Friends shows. The next one is the 24th, I think.
Starting point is 03:13:57 May 24th. I don't know where my phone is. May 24th. JoeRogan.com. Young Jamie, get one of them powerful t-shirts. There's only a few leftshirts there's only a few left there's only a few left you fucks
Starting point is 03:14:06 Young Jamie has powerful hoodies and all kinds of shit YoungJamie.com bye see ya that's a beautiful way to end it
Starting point is 03:14:16 I can still get a hiding place

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