The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - August 8, 2015

Episode Date: August 8, 2015

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub, Bryan Callen, and Eddie Bravo to watch the fights on August 8, 2015.

BAM! Don't talk shit now. Everyone! Oh, perfect timing! Oh shit! I know you didn't bring fucking wine. It's about to get weird. We have two bottles already, but you'll probably tell me they suck. Which you brought us.

Have a sit down, so people can hear you. Well that Stevie is terrible. Wine and condoms. Thanks for nothing, Steve. You could really shake it in there there like it's less strong than sugar I think they watered it down or something damn it this a organic shit down Lock this bitch Michael Johnson versus Benil daddy. Oh, I think he loses. That's a good fight Johnson loses Yes, really I think is a fucking yes monster

He is he's and on the ground, but you know what so is Johnson And on the ground But you know what, so is Johnson Not on the ground, he's not But good luck getting him there Watch, son I'm calling the underdog Good luck Is Darush, what's his name? Darush

Did he wrestle over eight years? No, but he's really good jiu-jitsu No, but he's world class on the ground It's pronounced Darush Yes Darush But how is he going to get him there? Michael Johnson is very hard to take down

Oh, and his stand-up's better than Johnson's Wait for it Oh, wait a minute What are you saying? Yes, but how is he going to get him there? Michael Johnson is very hard to take down. Oh, and his stand-up's better than Johnson's. Wait for it. Oh, wait a minute. What are you saying? I think Benil is really good, but you're underestimating Johnson's stand-up. I don't think you can say one guy's better than in that situation. And if anybody would, I'd kind of lean towards Johnson in the stand-up a little bit. Should we do a taste test?

Should I open both ones? Didn't he get stopped by... Delarouche? No, Benil Dariush. Didn't he get stopped by Delarouche? No. Benil Dariush. Didn't he get stopped by Ramsey Nijm? No. No? No. He knocked him out cold. He knocked Ramsey Nijm out. Who did Ramsey Nijm beat that's really good?

Ramsey beat somebody that was really good. Ramsey, you know, he's off and on. Great guy. Oh, he's a great guy. Young fighter. Ramsey got robbed. He got fucked, man. Holy fuck. I cannot put enough Steve in this goddamn coffee. Yeah, it's really sad, man. Bro, Steve, yeah? I call it Steve, Callen.

All right. Hey, bud, how you doing? Benil Steve. What's up, brother? He beat Benil Darius, dude. I'm right. He knocked him out. Ramsey did?

Yes. Yes. Ramsey Nijam in UFC Fight Night Noguera versus Nelson. What? It took place in Abu Dhabi. That's the one in Abu Dhabi. Yeah, dude, I'm telling you. Ramsey, look, Ramsey's had some tough losses, but he's a bad motherfucker.

He's a tough dude. He's a tough dude, and he works hard. He was so relaxed, too. That guy was a beast that he was wrestling with. You're saying his last fight. Yeah, his last fight. That guy was a killer, and he stayed with him, relaxed. Andrew Holbrook.

He got robbed. He got robbed. That's just bad fucking judging, dude. Really bad judging. There's so much bad judging. But, you know, that Holbrook kid's a tough kid, too. It was a great fight. A lot of fun.

But Ramsey tagged him. Ramsey did way more work, I thought. I just didn't think it was a good decision. He's also got a really big frame for 55. You look at him up close. Tall, long, and really big. He's a really big guy. He's just a good decision. He's also got a really big frame for 55. You look at him up close. Tall, long, and really big. Yes. He's a long guy.

He's long. He's just a tough dude and a smart dude. I just really like him. And I really like that Holbrook kid, too. No disrespect. I thought that Holbrook kid's a bad motherfucker. Good wrestler, real tough kid. And he took some good shots, too, and came back.

Eddie, are we going to bet on any of the fights tonight, my man? Fuck yeah. You want to bet? You want to take Treshera? You want to take Treshera? You want to take Treshera? Eddie's looking sexy as a motherfucker. Look at Eddie in his tank top. Let's not talk over people, Brian.

Sorry, I got excited. In the middle of negotiating some dollar-dollar bills here. Who's that? They were negotiating a bet. Sorry, buddy, I'm sorry. I got excited. For anybody who's never heard one of these podcasts before, you're like, what the fuck kind of podcast is this? What's a fight companion?

If you just started downloading the podcast, what's happening right now is the UFC is on TV. On Fox Sports 1. We watch the card. We get fucked up. We talk over each other. We talk nonsense. We make a lot of ludicrous statements that get blown up in the MMA media. We write three or four articles for

them. Three or four articles for these journalists. And we have a good time. They're just all on standby like this. And go. Go. And so we'll let you know if there's, when the fight starts, we'll let you know at the moment it starts. Because if you're trying to watch it live, we're like five or maybe more seconds behind you.

How many seconds, Jamie? Like ten, maybe? Yeah, at least. We gotta watch it when they do it. This goes to the internet. Joey's calling. Joey! We're on air right now on the Fight Campaign. What's up? I was switching around, but I forgot you

were up there. No worries. Joey! You hear Joe? What happened? You hear Joe? What happened? You hear Joe? What'd you say? What's up, brother?

How you doing? Hey, we're doing a podcast. Let's just do this podcast, Eddie. Jesus Christ. Let's do it. What'd you say? Nothing. We're doing a podcast, Joey. We love you.

We love you. We'll let you go. Okay, so when the fight starts, we'll let you guys know at the moment it starts We'll say ready now And if you can, just pause your DVR and sync it up with that There's no good way to do this The only way to do this really Is if you watch it afterwards

And you watch it on the DVR And you got the laptop there and you sync it up Otherwise, just enjoy it The good news is We're not ahead of you So we're not going to notice some shit and go, oh, shit! And then you go, when's it coming? When's it coming?

That would suck. That would suck. But it's all good. I discovered these. Never going to eat regular pistachios again. They're already shelled. Makes pistachios seem like nonsense. That's brilliant.

It seems to be the fad these days because I found starbursts the same way. Unwrapped. Ooh, starburstburst the same way. Unwrapped. Starburst unwrapped? Unwrapped, guys. Really? How do they keep them from sticking to each other? Look at Candy Boy over there. What'd you say? How do they keep them from sticking to each other? Put talcum powder on them? Yeah. They kind of stick together. I'm not going to lie to you. There's a reason those wrappers are on there.

Yeah, but so what? Well, they're not as tasty. I feel like the wrapper kind of seals the flavor. The juices? Yeah, for reals. Let's take our time with this wine, guys. That makes sense. Somebody may have spent a lot of time making this. So what is this wine? You're a connoisseur.

I got ourselves a beautiful Chianti, a 2010 Chianti. And Castello di Amma San Lorenzo. Don't know what that means, but it's an earthy piece of work here. There you go. Now, the difference is you're going to get some earth in your wine. You're gonna get some some leather and some please don't make me hate you Ray Borg and boy, how do you say this gentleman's name? Gene mr. Herrera, we'll call him Mr. Herrera. Beautiful body. Ray Borg's a bad motherfucker, though, and really good on the ground.

This should be a lot of fun. That guy's got a great body. Both of them do. Skin on him. Shredded. You have to be. They're fighting 155 or 45? No, that's smaller.

I think that's 45. You ever seen a fat 45-er? That's a bad sign. Yeah, that's not good. That's true. That's danger. No one's like, God, this 45-er's out of shape, everybody. He's a chub chub.

Yeah. He's got the love handles on that 45-er. I've seen a few 55-ers that were a little on the body fat side. Really? Danger no one's like god this 45ers out of shape Yeah, yeah, love him You 50 fivers that were like a little on that body fat side really Yeah, I felt the weights too big for you personally a little too bad. I mean my dude these guys are 125 You're in my pocket. You are in my pocket What are you talking to lighten the ass for you? Come? I'm very happy with Bravo's hair and two man You look good man. It's a beautiful man. He's a beautiful young man ass break out. I'm very happy with Bravo's hair and two man. You look good, man It's a beautiful man. He's a beautiful young man. Thank you. I was a beautiful 45 son

That's young don't look at man. Thank you Had a gray beard an hour ago, so yeah, he doesn't look 45 at all. Not at all. Thank you You look every bit of 28 really 20. I would say 28. I'd be cool with 29. I'd be 32, 33. Dude, they're trying to fuck you. I can't. I've been there before. I just want you to be careful.

No, that's bullshit. Come on. We're going to this party. You should come with us. Bro, for real. It'd be just the two of us. I know that you think that you can just be friends with guys. Have you seen the moon at 10 and 11 on the beach?

You know, there's a sushi restaurant at the top of La Cienega 457 on the clock right now so here we go first fight of the night for 50s for 50 450 right there BAM. Right there. Bam. So sync that bitch up. Oh, right hand. I mean, I'm just going to start. Look at this. Damn.

Borg with a big takedown. Terrible wrestling. Borg is strong as fuck, man. Bro, in every fight, I know you guys, you let me know what you think, but their trunks drive me fucking nuts. White and black and black and white. Hey, how about we switch it up? Why not red and blue? The corners, red, blue.

You know what it was? It's confusing. They had a whole warehouse of shit that they had to get rid of, and that's the first stuff they were going to – because they have to supply them. How cool is it for the UFC? Reebok steps in, and they give them all this cash, and it doesn't cost them anything. They're like – they give them cash, and they get to dress their fighters. Well, did you did you see that?

Reebok guy what a great interview Joe No, he was that he I think he's the president or he has something to do He's like the head of some thing with Reebok that deals with the UFC He said your ass is next in line to be when Reebok. What does that mean? It means that he basically said they rushed to get things done because they said, you know How come some fighters names are misspelled, you know, how come some fighters' names are misspelled? And he goes, listen, there's over 500 guys. What do you expect?

For sure spell people's names right and have everyone on there. That's what I expect. And then he goes, you know, we didn't think far enough ahead. We just want to get this out. So we didn't think about the ring card girls or Joe Rogan. That doesn't matter. I don't have a contract with them. Well, you're going to be wearing pumps, my man.

It's just the way it is. Welcome. I'm going to wear what I feel like wearing. Well, you better like pumps, then. What if they give you money? Or I won't have a contract with them. Well, you're going to be wearing pumps, my man. It's just the way it is. Welcome. I'm going to wear what I feel like wearing. Well, you better like pumps, then. What if they give you money? Or I won't do it. I don't have to do it. Unless I had some sort of a deal with Reebok, I'm not going to wear their stuff for free.

I'm just not. It just doesn't make any sense to me. I'm not a fighter. I'm not in the same situation where you get paid for it. And I would have to decide whether or not I would want to do that. That's the problematic aspect of this. There's many, but that's one of the big ones. But if they offer you a contract, they're like,

hey, we need you to wear these UFC Reebok pumps for every show. You know what I like, dude? I like Chucks. Me too, brother. I wear them all the time. Fuck yes, Rogan. That's what I want. Converse wants to come with some cash. Yeah, Converse.

I got you. You know why? Because these are what I like. I wear these all the time. It's all I wear. There's been amazing jiu-jitsu going on, man, and we're talking about Reebok. Occasionally, I'll wear Nike. Yeah. Yeah.

And I would wear Reebok if it were cool sneakers. I don't have, like, a brand that I love. Oh, dude. Both of these guys are really good on the ground. Both are really good, man. We're seeing a high-level jiu-jitsu match right here seriously these guys are awesome Yeah Yeah, a lot of jiu-jitsu and thrown in with punches and shit, too

And I don't know any I don't know either of these guys Did you see the Jake Shields here speaking of which because he's going for this Kimura? Did you see the Jake Shields Pajaras? Poking his eye eight times and stuff. Yeah,? Is Paul Hardy the most dangerous guy in the world? I think so. He's scary. Because he's going to poke you in the eye and rip your fucking arm off. Well, he's also taken stuff to some crazy different primal level.

You know, like the eye poking and the holding the submission, even after all he's been through. He's been kicked out of the UFC for it, and he still holds submissions. You know, they warned him in the back. That's why he got banned because in the back they go, listen, if you get a submission do not hang on to it. We're not giving you another warning. This is it.

What's this motherfucker do? Hangs on to it. Jake Shills was just owning him, just controlling him on the ground. Then he started poking him in the eye. You know? It was just really fucked up. And really messed his eyes up, by the way. Really jacked his eyes up. His eyes look really bad. He's just a scary dude, man.

But he did catch that submission. He legitimately caught Jake. Clean. Legitimately caught him. So the end of the fight is not in dispute, but how did he get there? Jake couldn't see. Yeah. Jake couldn't see in round three.

He could not see. He was like, I can't see. In the corner, they asked him. And Tarek wanted to call the fight, and he goes, don't call it. He couldn't see. He literally was fighting at blurs. That guy's an asshole. Jake Shields is one of the best passers in MMA, period.

He's one of the best passers in the whole game, if not the best. If not the best. He's awesome at passing. And he passed Husamar Pajaras' guard a few times, and that itself was impressive because Pajaras' jiu-jitsu all the way around is top notch. He's not just good at leg locks. He's good. He's got, he doesn't have any holes in his game.

He's world class. He's world class everywhere. And the one thing that I was really impressed with is his side control escapes, his guard recovery. If you watch that, it was beautiful escapes. You're talking about Paharis or Paharis? Paharis. The way he dismounted and the way he cuz Jake Shields was passing his shit It wasn't easy, but he really he ruins all that being a fucking

This what I'm saying look at this triangle attempt. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Is it like it's very primal when he's fighting It's like it's animal Jim did did their shoulder. Did it get tore off as his roti some damage? Yeah, there's damage, yeah. There's damage in there? There's got to be. His shoulder and his eyes are all jacked up. What about Mazagati? He's just not good. Mazagati just, look, Dana's been saying it for years that he's the worst referee in the business.

I don't know if he's the worst, but he's made some fucking giant errors. He made a big error in the Frank Mir Brock Lesnar fight. That's one of the big ones, because Brock Lesnar was completely locked up in a submission, and he took too fucking long. There was tap, tap, tap, and then he's moving in. He doesn't train, and if he doesn't train, he's never been tapped. If he doesn't tap, especially to a leg lock like that,

he doesn't know how close you are to getting your shit destroyed. Well, that's what big John McCarthy was saying. He trains every day, jiu-jitsu, and he goes, I train to keep up with the kids. Yeah, he goes, I train to keep up with the kids. Yeah, because I train to keep up so I know what's going on. A lot of these guys don't train, so I don't know what the fuck's going on. Well, Mazzagata was in the wrong place, too. You don't tap the guy's back. Hell no! The guy's got to

fully lock him more. You get in between them. You let him know without any question that the thing touching his back is not the fight. Tapping on his back? He doesn't know. Paul Harrez is a fucking gorilla, right? He's destroying. He's not the fight. Tapping on his back? He doesn't know. Paul Harrez is a fucking gorilla, right? He's destroying. He's in the middle of yanking.

He's in the middle of winning. And he feels something touching his back. He doesn't know what the fuck it is. I mean, it's almost not his fault. He knew that Jake Shields was tapping, for sure. But Marillo Bustamante, who's his coach, almost lost to Matt Lindland. Tapped him and then had a tap again. I shouldn't say almost lost because he dominated the fight. But he got fucked because he to Matt Lindland, tapped him, and then had a tap again. I shouldn't say almost lost because he dominated the fight.

But he got fucked because he tapped Matt Lindland. He caught Lindland in an arm bar. Lindland said he tapped, but then let go. And then he caught him in a guillotine and finished. You know what? You can't blame that on Mazzagati, man. That was Hulusi Marpaharis' craziness. It's both.

It's a combination of both. It's both. I guarantee you, if John McCarthy was refereeing that match, it would have been different. 100%. John would have bowled him over. But you've got to remember,

he also probably would have taken a point away from that blatant eye catcher. As would Herb Dean. Yes. They were shouting. Herb Dean. They were shouting. They were going,

he's gouging his eyes. And Shields kept going, and his eyes were bleeding. Well, do you hear what Moz got? He said, I'll take care of it. And Jake said, no, you won't. No, you're not doing anything. You're not saying, no, I'll take care of it. And Jake said, no, you won't. No, you're not doing anything. You're not saying, no, I'll take care of it.

What does that mean? You're going to talk to him? He's going to smile at you and poke him in the eye. That was one thing. That was one thing for sure. Maybe Mazzagati fucked up really bad there. But if you watch that Kimura, that was in transition. Oh, so nasty.

It was a huge transition from the bottom to the top. And then he switches. And there's just no way he could have got there in time. I think the pat on the back was like, this is the quickest I can get here. I'm going to bypass trying to stop him and go around. He was just not in position. Look at this. Mounted guillotine.

Mounted guillotine. Ray Borg. That's nasty, too. He has his legs locked up. Oh, dude. It looks like it's over, kid. It looks like it's over kid All you have to do is get out of that fucking mount get those legs separated that mounted one too when they're doing like a Guard from the top when they crossed their legs like that. God damn. That's now Joey Benavidez style. Which one?

Know when Benavidez right there with the mounted guillotine. When Benavidez tapped Tim, was it, who the fuck was it? Tim Means? Yeah. No, not Tim Means. Tim Elliott. A mounted arm and guillotine? He had to tap with his feet.

Both his arms were trapped. He was getting guillotined. Both his arms were trapped. And he's slapping with his feet like a dolphin. He had to tap with his feet. Benavidez got a nasty one. These guys have Very good chits So let me tell you

About being in Brazil Watching Ronda Rousey Walk out into the arena With 16,000 people Originally they were Trying to like They were chanting Over her fucking song

Like she's going out there With her song And they're going Who by O.A. Who by O.A. Then you're gonna die Yeah that's that You're gonna die song

That they always sing Been there. And then people are touching her as she's walking by. One dude slapped her in the face. They're like slapping at her. I mean, they have to reach really far, so they're trying to touch her. She's not close enough for them to just know exactly how to reach her. So they're trying to reach, like a white guy jumping up trying to touch a basketball rim.

You can't really do it delicately. There's no passive way to do it. You've got to do your best to try to touch her. But dude, she walks forward with this fucking stare of death. Like, she didn't give a fuck about anybody else. All that stuff was just nonsense. Total tunnel vision. And while it was happening, I was like, whoa, we're seeing some crazy history shit here.

Like, there's something about her right now where she's kind of transcended this sport in some crazy way. You're emotional. Dude, I almost cried. I almost fucking cried. You're about to cry. I almost cried when I was interviewing her because I felt like, you know, I would say that if you could tell your kids, like, I was there when Muhammad Ali beat Sonny Liston.

Yeah, Rumble in the Jungle. I was there. That was Ronda in Brazil. I was there when Mike Tyson beat Trevor Burbick and won the title, the youngest heavyweight ever. I was there. If you could say that. Dom Herrera always talks about Michael Spinks. He was there for Mike Tyson, Michael Spinks.

He goes, Joe, I was in the audience. I saw him in the eyes. It was a historic event. You know the only difference is when you say those names, and I'm not hating on Ronda, but when you say Evander Holyfield or Tyson, I was there for that. Muhammad Ali, Sonny Liston, I was there for that. I was there for Ronda versus Betch Cohera. Listen, Betch Cohera

is the best chick in Brazil at 135. No, she's not. She's ranked number eight. There's Brazilians ranked higher than her? No, no, no. She's ranked number eight. No, but Eddie said the best chick in Brazil. No, no, no. Cyborg's the best chick in Brazil. Yeah, but she can't make the weight. But that's a different story. No, but Eddie said the best chicken in Brazil. No, no, no. No, Cyborg's the best chicken in Brazil. Yeah, but she can't make the weight.

But that's a different story. And she just recently got signed by the UFC. This is Ronda's first time in Brazil. You know, it's her first time in Brazil. It's that when Ronda came to Brazil, that's what he's talking about. It could have been fucking, you know, Palavra, whatever. It's different. I think it's different.

Listen, it doesn't have to be equal. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is it is, without a doubt, an historic event. She got 5.5 million Instagram followers in a fucking day. How many? 1.5 million. That's significant. Dude, this pay-per-view is going to be bigger than UFC 189.

It's going to be bigger than the Conor McGregor fight. She's by far the biggest star. There's all these memes all over the internet saying, don't be a do-nothing bitch. Because that's what she said. She said, I'm not a do-nothing bitch because that's what she said She said I'm not some doing a bitch sits around waiting for some millionaire to fucker and like everybody's like holy shit She's like the walking example of feminism like a meritocracy like she's she does it exactly doesn't talk She's not a sign asking does it judged on a curve at all now?

She walked out. When she knocked her out, she KOs her. And then she goes, don't cry. And then walks away from her. And struts. Struts around the ring. She's a different demeanor, bro. Did she really shit in her pants?

No, no, no. That's fake. That's fake, okay. She's strutting around the octagon. And the audience has to give it up. They have to cheer for her. Oh, she's destroying these girls. And now you're going to give us Misha Tate 3? But in Brazil, Captain Negative over here.

In Brazil, even in Brazil, they're cheering for her at the weigh-ins. They were booing Betch Koheya in Brazil at the weigh-ins. She's by far the biggest star. But it's not like Conor McGregor flying Irish people over. This is actual Brazilians. This is actual Brazilians booing one of their own countrywomen, which is unheard of.

It's an insanely proud and nationalistic country. I think she's undeniable and there's a human example here of triumph over all odds in a way. Like, you know, just to be a woman and in such a short period of time

to be the biggest draw, where I was in a, I was in, what the the biggest draw where I was in a I was in. What the hell was I? I was in I was doing stand up in Dallas and I was in this bar. It was just packed. And the minute she walked out, everybody went crazy. If you told me that a woman could garner that kind of attention as a fighter, I would have been I would have told you two years, three years. Well, she's just not like anybody we've ever seen before. When you say a woman fighter, you're judging on the women fighter that you've seen up until her. Even the girls that were really good as, like, boxers.

Like, you know, Christy Martin was kind of fun to watch. And Layla Ali was fun to watch. Even Gina Carano. And Sia Ryker. And Gina Carano was fun to watch. But this is another level. This is some Mike Tyson shit. Yes.

She's the female version of Mike Tyson. These girls are fucking terrified when they get in there with her. Did you think that she would dispatch Correa that easily? I mean... I thought she would submit her. I thought she would ragdoll her and maybe beat her face in with elbows. That's what I was thinking. I think if they fight 100 times, that fight goes like that 100 times.

It's no competition, man. She does whatever the fuck she wants to that girl. She does whatever she wants standing. She does whatever she wants on the ground. I called UFC 190 honey dick lot of blood. Honey dick. Oh, my God. Look at Ray Borg's head. It's squealing blood.

Look at that. It's flying out of him. That is crazy. Dude, that is like a broken faucet. They're stopping it because of the blood. It's on his eye. What is? Yeah, it's on his cheek.

I think it's above the eye, bro. Blood is pumping. It looks like there's something on his cheek. It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell. Can you tell? It's like the slit of that eye, huh? Yeah. Oh, it is on the eyelid. Oh, it's it looks like more Yeah, it's the eye. It's like at the slit. That's anyway bottom. You're good They shouldn't have stopped that he's in a really good notion bullshit. Well, they better put him back in that position That's why I heard oh, they are does. Oh, yeah. Okay, that's good

think about think about what you're saying about Rhonda right now and how this is such a historical time. And what Callan's saying. And then even the fact that Brendan is saying, well, she's not really getting any competition. Put all that together, and then you look at Cyborg. You know what I mean? Different levels. Cyborg's nowhere near Ronda's level. Cyborg's in the CFL.

Cyborg is nowhere near Ronda's level. Yeah, but Cyborg's in the CFL. Cyborg is nowhere near Ronda's level? Not even close. Wait a minute. Cyborg is nowhere near Ronda's? As a fighter, yes. What? Because if Ronda's not facing, if we're going to make fun of Ronda's competition. I'm not making fun of Ronda's competition.

You are. Yeah, and I'm saying Ronda's competition is nothing. That's how much better she is than those girls. And it's not Ronda's fault. It's not the UFC's fault. It's the state of the female fights right now It's just that's what it is is so new and Ron's I'm fucking badass did you know the best we have ever? I don't see another but Cyp cyborgs. She's just not in the same realm as Rhonda Well, this is because she doesn't get any fights. I mean she's fighting these girls. Oh, you're talking about popularity wise everything across the Dude, you know she had a kickboxing

she had a kickboxing bout with this chick her name was Jo I know how you say it she's a world champ and she lost she lost she fought like one of the best female kickboxers on the fucking planet a chick that can't get a fight nobody wants a fighter bars is bad ass she fought her to the distance too kickboxers on the fucking planet. A chick that can't get a fight. Nobody wants to fight her. Bars is badass. She fought her to the distance, too. She went the distance with her, which is not her sport, because she's an MMA fighter. There is a big difference, especially with the big gloves on.

It's just not the same. She can't take people down. There's a lot of things you can't do. But that chick, she got in there with one of the best in the fucking world. She's trying to fight people. But there's all the allegations of steroids. Well, she's failed tests. Yes.

If there's no allegations. She's failed one test. She's failed one test, yeah. Look at her physically. No, you're right. Absolutely. Look, I'm not... I'm a Chris Cyborg fan.

Let me just say that right now. As a fight analyst or a fight fan, she's fun to watch, man. I mean, I don't know if it's fair. She can bang. Isn't her striking and her jiu-jitsu world class? Oh, she's fun to watch, man. I mean, I don't know if it's fair. Isn't her striking and her jujitsu world class? She's a brown belt level on the ground. She's really good. She's not as good as Ronda on the ground.

No, but she's fucking way bigger. She hits. She looks like she hits harder than any woman. And that's unforgiving, right? But now get her to 135. Let's see her hit like that. Well, that's the thing that Robin Black had a really good point. Robin Black, who's one of the best fight analysts out there,

and good dude, I had him on the podcast, very, very knowledgeable and a huge fan of the sport. He's like, it's bullshit. All she has to do is eat less and run. Everybody does it. You want to lose weight? You can lose weight. Fucking 50 Cent did it for a movie.

He lost like 100 pounds. Look at fucking Matthew McConaughey. Exactly. Matthew McConaughey did it. Looked like he had AIDS. People can do it. You can do it. What about Homeboy with fucking Batman? What's his name? Christian Bale. But can you fight it that way? You can fight it anyway.

You can fight even better if you don't ever cut weight. How about that? How about you let her fight at 170? That's what she walks around at. No, it's bullshit. There's a reason why you have to cut weight. You have to cut weight because they're trying to figure out some way where you can both agree on even terms. I don't think she has a bone structure. You can't be any heavier than 135.

5 pounds. Any athlete, if Dana called me up right now and was like, hey, Brennan, listen, we need you to get to 185 and you can fight the champ at 185. I'm going to try my fucking best to make that fight. I'm sure it's fucking like, no, no I'm sure fucking like no no we got to do at 190. No whatever they want. I'm gonna do especially. I'm cyborg Become relevant yeah, I have to make okay, but Cyborg that's how much she was walking around she goes about 175

That is a lot of weight and it's very unusual a lot of weight But here's the other thing not It's not normal either. One of the things about steroids, and this is not saying that she's on it. I'm not making any allegations. But one of the things about the people that compete on them is that they find it very addictive. And it's not just a matter of the fact that it allows you to heal. It's not just a matter of fact that it gives you this ability to train harder. But it also, there's a confidence thing where you know you're on this shit. Yes.

And they all talk about it. They all talk about it. Like when I was on it and I was fighting, I felt invincible. Especially of a female. You put testosterone in a female's body, it's going to change some things. Bone structure. And attitude, the way she fights. What?

She fights like an angry dude. Yes. She mauls bitches. So you take that away. And again, I'm not saying she's on testosterone. She's failed a testosterone test before. If you look at the two factors, the fact that she's failed the test before and the way that she looks. Her voice.

How about her voice? The way she used to look when she was in Strikeforce and she fought Gina. Okay? All that nonsense aside, I think it's worth, when we know what we know about the sport, it's worth considering the possibility. I agree. Right? That's fair. That's fair as fuck. That's about as fair as you can get.

That said, she's just bigger. She's way bigger. And this idea that Ronda has to move up, actually she doesn't. Why would Ronda move up? Why does she have to do anything? She's the champ. Because to the common folk, to the common fan, no one knows who Cyborg is. This is not a matter of her not being able to do it.

It's a matter of her not taking any of the steps to attempt to do it Like if you really want to do it what you do is you make that weight hire Mike Don't you hire Mike told you you make that weight and you put up a fucking video of you making that ass here I'm waiting in 135 see I can do it Rhonda. Let's do this bitch. I want my title boom Boom. Biggest fight. Biggest women's fight ever. Biggest fight ever. Ever. Biggest fight ever.

Ever. I said that shit back at JRE1 whatever when Ronda was on Joe Rogan's show. Before the UFC even had chicks. You know what I thought? What freaked me out is when Cyborg fought Gina Carano and Strikeforce. I worked for the UFC for eight years. You're used to the crowd and what it sounds like. I never heard a crowd like that ever. In all the hundreds of shows I've been to, that sounded like a Beatles concert.

When Gina Carano came out, it sounded like it was a Britney Spears concert. And I thought, wow. Multiply that times 100, that's Ronda in Brazil. They were screaming like Justin Bieber was on stage. Girls were screaming. It was like Elvis was there in the 60s. I think Ronda beat Cyborg even at 145. Really?

But I don't think Ronda has any reason to... I'm the champ. Reason? That's the biggest fight of all time. That's the biggest fight of all time. For Cyborg. For everybody. For Ronda, it's dangerous. It's a very dangerous fight. It's a dangerous fight, but that's what... The public doesn't know who Cyborg is, so they don't give a fuck.

Hey, listen. If Cyborg fought font if signed right now in the UFC How long would it take for them to blow that the fuck up and everybody knows who cyborg is and they'll take a while Oh, it will take fucking one week. No, okay Let me ask you come on. Let's look at this rationally Let's say would say we know for sure because we don't know anything for sure right, but let's say We know for sure that Rhonda is not juicing. She's not doing anything guarantee. Okay, I believe you but let's say we know for sure, because we don't know anything for sure, right? But let's say we know for sure that Rhonda is not juicing. She's not doing anything. Guaranteed she's not. Okay. I believe you. But let's say we know for sure, okay? And let's

say we also know for sure that Cyborg might be on something. And she might be on something to make $145,000. Then, are you okay with it? Are you okay with it if they both fight at $145,000 and one person is naturally bigger and might be on something? I don't care when. I don't care where they fight $ 145, 135.

This is my question. Hold on a second. This is my question. Do you have a different opinion about this with women than you do with men? Not really. I don't at all. Here's the thing. With Chris Weidman, here's a perfect example.

Chris Weidman's dominant champ, just like Ronda. If he was going to fight Vitor, and we knew that Vitor might be on TRT, I still wouldn't have a problem with it. And I don't think Weidman would have a problem with it either. I think Weidman would be like, I'm going to still fuck this team. The reason I wouldn't have a problem is because Weidman's already bigger. Weidman's already got a bigger frame and all that.

But that's the point. It's a different fight. It's a completely different fight. You know how dangerous Vitor is? He knocked Bisping's eye into fucking the next level. Bisping will never be the same. Dan Henderson, one round. Dan Henderson.

Look at all these dudes. He was, what, seven in a row, six in a row, just KOing dudes. Take him off testosterone. What the fuck was that? His body doesn't look the same. He doesn't perform the same. It's not even remotely close. It's like going from a Ferrari to a Civic.

So that's the question. Not a Civic. If she's capable of doing something. Lexus. If she's capable of doing something that's not natural, to stay at 145 or to get up higher than 145 in the 170s then then what how do you feel about the fight then because then because of different fight and then what's the UFC do let's say the UFC let's say they do

do that fight and cyborg knocks Ronda out yeah knocks her out dead dead yeah and then what then what do we do? It's a beautiful thing. It makes everything beautiful. It's not. It doesn't matter if she loses. It makes it better. It makes it better. No, no. What if she loses and then Cyborg tests positive?

It makes the sport even more interesting. No, it doesn't. Yes, it does. Because then we don't have our star. We don't have anyone crossing over into pop culture. Oh, who cares about that? Rhonda's transcended. That's all extra shit.

No, it's not. The fans don't need that shit. You don't mind if someone is on the shit and they knock somebody out like that and then you find out that the reason why she got knocked out like that is because the other person was enhanced? I do. I think it's cheating. This is the thing. This is what the sexist in me, the sexist in me, I have more

of an issue with it for some reason with women. Well, maybe because it's testosterone. I'm not comfortable with it. I'm not comfortable with it at all. What I'm saying, I'm not even comfortable with my opinions on it. I'm like, why do I have a different opinion if it's women and the woman was on something? I agree, it's different. I don't know why. When me and Rhonda were hanging out, I would tell her, unless Cyborg agrees to this strict testing, you are not fighting her.

It's you! It's you! No, I haven't talked to her in forever. But you know what I'm saying? It's you! It's you! No, I haven't talked to her in forever. You know what I'm saying? When I was with her, and I still care about her, but the thing is there's no way you're taking this fight against fucking the Brazilian Drago

if she's on shit. Unless she's going to enlist in Vada Testa. There's no way. At 145, she's just a way bigger human being. It's dangerous, man. What you guys said before, just lose the goddamn motherfucking weight already. Shit! Stop with this! It's dangerous. What you guys said before, just lose the goddamn motherfucking weight already. Shit!

Stop with this. It's a fucking journey. Shit. What the fuck is going on? Just lose the goddamn weight. It's the biggest fight of all time. The fuck you doing, Cyborg? Let's do it. In a way, getting down to 35 would cancel out, in some ways, the idea of testosterone in terms

of, I think, it'd be hard to do it when you've lost literally 45 pounds. She would also have to guarantee that she actually made the weight. Because another sneaky, fucked up thing that people do is they just don't make the weight. Like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in his last fight. They contracted, the first

fight was supposed to be at 168, then they moved to 170, and he didn't even make 170. That guy drives me fucking nuts. 170.8, came in, he was out of shape, didn't fight well, fought through just a few punches per round, but he was way bigger than the guy. Way bigger. The guy would land 30 shots, and he would land two, and wobble the guy. You can't do that, man. And won the round with just a few body shots.

It was literally like a guy eating punches, getting close, and swinging with clubbing blows. It looked like you and me in the ring. Swear to God. Julio Chavez Jr. was a big dude and was a tiny guy. That's like Ronda and Cyborg. If they didn't agree to 135, you're going to have some shit on your hands, man. That's not going to be good. It's going to happen at 135.

It's going to happen. And imagine the fucking audience. Every niece, grandma, aunt, your girlfriends. Everybody's going to watch that shit. The whole fucking world in Africa and Latin America. Eddie, you don't know. The regular person has no fucking idea who Cyborg is. They have no idea.

It doesn't matter. It's not a smart move. The smart move is Misha Tate versus Cyborg is. They have no idea. It doesn't matter. It does. The smart move is Misha Tate versus Cyborg at 140. This is brilliant. I'm not saying I'm not disagreeing

with that. It becomes a gigantic fight. The world sees it. You're not right. You're not right. It happened to me and I said let's do that.

I'm not disagreeing with that. It would be the toughest fight that Misha Tate has ever had. And Cyborg. Or the toughest fight

rather that Cyborg has ever had. Really? Misha Tate would be. Why is that? Misha Tate's gangster. Misha Tate is bad as fuck. Misha Tate's gangster.. And Cyborg. The toughest fight, rather, that Cyborg has ever had. Really? 100%. Misha Tate's gangster. Misha Tate's gangster. She's tough as fuck. She's the only girl that's taken Ronda Rousey

into the third round. And she's destroying every other girl. Cyborg hits, all due respect to Misha Tate, I believe Cyborg hits a whole lot harder than Misha Tate does at 45. I think you're right, but I'll tell you right now, I would favor, with all due respect, I would favor Misha Tate over Gina Car. I think you're right, but I tell you right now I'm not fighting the same girl. I would fail with all due respect I would favor Misha Tate over Gina Carano and it's cyborg and Gina Carano was a very competitive fight

That's the thing that people don't remember about that was forever. I know mounted her you're right. She's better now I'm sure but Gina Carano. She was still fucking girls Scrambled on the ground and it was some control situations. I think even Misha, at 140, I think Misha Tate's going to give Cyborg some fritz. She'll get lit up. And then if they do it at 135 and she fights for it at 135,

it doesn't get past the two minute mark. You know what? She's not going to be able to take Cyborg down. Her wrestling's not that good. Cyborg's hard to take down. Cyborg's hard to take down and she hits hard. I think Misha will get lit up. I love Misha, but Cyborg would be too much for her. You know what's fascinating about this? Misha won the scrambles against Sarah McMahon.

Sarah McMahon's an Olympic medalist. She's about to fight right now, by the way. She beat Sarah McMahon up. You know what's fascinating about this? Four guys are talking passionately about women fighters. That's what I'm talking about! That's what I'm talking because that's what happens with with Rhonda side on the fight up there they go Holly Holly home Holly Holly she's

not ready yet you know what throw her in there that's the fight though I want to see a fight that's the next one I'd want to see and you know who's really tough is uh man she just beat if she was on Invicta. She's like an old school fighter who's really good. She just beat a new mech, Irene Aldana. Ooh, she's a fucking. Hey, if you're Misha, if you're Misha, and you came in a different lifetime,

and there was no Ronda, Misha's killing shit, right? You know what I'm saying? She's the best. She's as good as she is because Ronda is so goddamn good that the aspiration, like the the inspiration the top of the mountain Is so high that everybody else their vibration comes up there. They have to step their game up. They have to yes She's like the Michael Jordan. Everyone's trying to pursue that she's there's something about her man. She's got this crazy aura of championship Rhonda Oh, yeah, dude

When I I really did almost cry when I was interviewing her I just was the moment was so powerful. And plus, knowing her story, knowing her story with her dad and the whole thing about this girl. I mean, whether or not that's actually what she was trying to say, what she was saying, that she hopes Rhonda doesn't kill herself, but Rhonda's dad did kill himself. So that was like, it's part of her story. And she had all this extra motivation seeing her there and having daughters too. And just this like so much going on i get it man yeah there's so much god damn emotional it seems like god she's so powerful i think i think what's really important too about the steroid debate and just as we're

talking about whether or not you know if whenever we get excited about a fight we always assume or we like to assume that they're in in many ways there's an equal playing field they're kind of starting even though they may be genetically different and stuff right you want to you want to believe that nobody is actually doing underhanded things that clearly give you an advantage before you even get into the ring right yes and that's that's and i think that's the heart of real competition well That's what makes it so much fun. You've been around the sport way too long to think like that, Brian. You've been around way too many professional athletes to think that way.

I'm just saying that's what we as spectators want. Yeah, you're saying like as a culture. True. We want a level playing field. And so when we think about Chris Weidman and Luke Rockhold, all of us are really excited about that fight because we don't know what's going to happen. Best fight ever in the history. And we wouldn't want to think Luke was doing something or that

somebody was doing something underhanded to get an advantage before they even stepped in the ring. That's all I guess. Meanwhile, Ronda Rousey is in some crazy commercial. That's awesome. This is nuts, man. But the thing is, this isn't anything manufactured. What's crazy is this is really her.

She really is that badass. Like her technique is spectacular. This isn't like look, with all due respect, like Paige Van Zandt is tough as fuck and she's really cute and she has good scrambles but when you see her, you see a young fighter that's learning how to fight. Has a long ways to go. Long ways to go. When you see Ronda

launching bitches through the air when she's dropping down on Misha Tate after a highlight reel fucking hip toss. Boom! Crazy. Or Sarah McMahon body shot. It's silly. You're just seeing some next level technique

as well as this aura. I agree. This epic person. On a podcast, have you ever talked about an MMA fighter longer than we've talked about Ronda today? Well, because there's so much controversy. I don't know, man.

I don't know. Right? With guys, there's not too much controversy much controversy right it's pretty cut black and white with ron it's not black here's the deal man i think the ufc should have more women's weight classes i think they should have a 145 and there's not enough women i think if they did have a one for it you build it and they will come man and they will call it about 225 on the heavyweight that's true that too but i don't think you should have like you don't have to have that many fights. Like, if you have a woman like Cyborg, and she's at Invicta,

and she has these fights, and they're every now and again, they're not that often, and when she's fighting, she's fighting girls that are way lower level than her. Why not have those fights in the UFC? Why not have everybody aspire? Because that's exactly what you had in the strawweight division.

Until Jan Jedczyk stepped up and became this monster at 115 just smashing everybody. Do an ultimate fighter at 145 for females. You can get every female at 145 fucking doing it. That's exactly it. Instead of giving us the same old dudes and all that, do a 145

just all house. 16 145ers. The answer might be that there are just too many fighters to begin with in UFC. There's so many cards. They should find out what Gabby Garcia can cut down to and then The answer might be that there are just too many fighters to begin with in UFC. No, there's so many cards. You know what? They should find out what Gabby Garcia can cut down to and then focus a whole division on her. She's not that big. She's fucking...

Dude, she's so shredded. She's shredded. Eddie. She's 200 plus pounds. Is she over 200 pounds? Yes. Eddie, she's... Even shredded?

Yep. Even shredded? Yep. She's 6'3". She is tall. She is pretty fucking tall. She's 6'3". She's 6'3". She's so big. She's giant. She might be taller. She might be 6'3". She is tall. She is pretty fucking tall. She's 6'3". She's 6'3".

She's so big. She's giant. She might be taller. She might be 6'4". I follow her on Instagram. She could be. I think 6'3". She's tall.

I was in an elevator with her in China for Abu Dhabi, and I looked up and like, holy shit, I thought I was standing next to Brock Lesnar. I would ask her to carry me in a photo. I would ask her to carry me like a baby. Me too. You know what? The only opponent she's going to fight are like a baby. Me too. You know what? The only opponent she's gonna fight are like, cause there's a, you know what?

There she is right there. She's shredded now. That's 200 pounds? She lost a lot of weight. Yeah, but she's giant. What if she just fights a bunch of, cause you know America got millions and millions and millions of fat bitches. Why don't they just throw like a, like a 10?

Hey bro, take that shit to China bro. We got a whole shitload. We got a whole shitload of them. Sir. Sir, imagine. Sir, imagine just a bunch of fat bitches. Gabby's just shredded, just fucking up. She's 105 and 0. But you don't want to run any drug tests on her either.

Either. Bro, you bringing fat bitches to the UFC. Maybe that surgery that she had might have weakened her chin, too. Like Bigfoot? She used to have, yeah. She had jaw reduction. It looks like, at least. Yeah, it does. That's the UFC. Maybe that surgery that she had might have weakened her chin, too. Like Bigfoot? She used to have, yeah. She had jaw reduction. It looks like at least. Yeah, it does. That's the rumor. What does it say? I'm not trying, I'm not lying, nor is Tito. UFC called my manager last

time to see if I would fight Ron at 135 December 5th. Hey, Tito! Hey, Cyborg! How about you take a lesson in business 101? And if the UFC asks you that, you don't fucking blurt it out and tell the world until it's done. Because now Dana came out and was like, no, I never said that. Did he?

Yes. But still, it brings it up. It's bringing it up. So either way, Dana wants to make Tito's fucking her. She's not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to do that. Rule number one, as soon as the UFC says, hey, we're thinking about you fighting whoever, please don't say anything.

Brandon, right now, let's be honest. Right now, can a girl be that buff? Sarah McMahon? Naturally. Because she's been wrestling since she was a kid. And Rhonda's been doing judo since she was a kid. It's possible. When I interview her, when I put my hand on Sarah McMahon,

it's like Gleason Tebow. Wow. She's so yoked. Wow. I don't know. I'm not an endocrinologist. They've been doing it. But that's what most girls look like to me.

Okay. That to me, if I saw them, I'm hurt of that. Jesus Christ. Okay, let's watch this shit. It is weird that you have women ring girls when women are fighting. I think Shaw, Big Brown, you need to strip down. Dude, I'll do it, man. Wax up.

I won't wear Reebok, but I'll fucking do it. You won't wear Reebok? I'll wear Reebok, Speedo. Were you bullshitting me about Reebok saying that I have to wear their shit? No, in the interview it said, we rushed this out to get the fighters done and then they said you know next we didn't think about Joe Rogan or the ring card girl here's that's another thing just like you were saying about cyborg not talking about that they shouldn't talk about that you know don't like the whole thing super

sloppy cuz people they're like we know we're taking a lot of criticism on the outfit stuff like that what they spell people's names wrong? Damn, she's stuffing Sarah McMahon. She's stuffing her. Look at her. Who is this chick? Amanda Nunes is badass. Damn, is she Brazilian?

Yeah. Wow. She's badass. She just slipped. She twisted her ankle. Yeah, but basically what the Reebok guy said is, you know, we rushed to get this done, so we've made some mistakes, but we're learning. Why are you trying to scare Joe?

It doesn't matter, dude. I'm not at all. You can't really scare Joe. Listen, man. He's different because Reebok can say, hey, Joe, jump, and he's not going to do it. I would just not do the weigh-ins. It wouldn't be that hard. I would go and watch.

I watched the Ronda weigh-ins. That on-air shirt? See ya, Joe. See ya. I watched the Ronda weigh-ins from the audience because they had a Brazilian guy that was introducing him. How did he do it? Not so good.

Boom. He needs work. He needs work on his enthusiasm. He was fine. I don't know. I don't understand the language. Look at this Sarah McMahon. She's trying to get it back. Lose the position.

What's the woman on the bottom? What's her name? Amanda Nunes. Tough girl. Very tough. She's tough, but when you watch them and then you watch Ronda, it's like, bro, it's like LeBron versus a fucking pickup game in the like, bro, it's like LeBron versus a fucking pick-up game in the park. No, it's like LeBron versus me. You know, LeBron was in that movie.

Pick-up guys know how to play. These girls look good. They look strong and fast. You know, LeBron had a big part in that Amy Schumer movie. Trainwreck. Trainwreck. Have you seen it? Yeah, I love it.

The first 45 minutes, I was screaming. It was amazing. I heard it's one of seen it? Yeah, I love it. The first 45 minutes, I was screaming. It was amazing. I heard it's one of the funniest movies ever. It's great. The first 45 minutes, I couldn't stop going, ah! But then, you know, when you get really raunchy in a movie... Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Did she get her in the eye?

She caught her with a bomb, dude. She caught her with a bomb. Damn. She's a pretty big underdog, too. Sarah's tough, too. Is she? They're all tough. Nunes is tough, dude. Yes, she is. caught her with a bomb. Damn. She's a pretty big underdog, too. Sarah's tough, too. Is she? They're all tough. Nunez is tough, dude. Yes, she is. So Sarah's an underdog.

Sarah's not good on the bottom. No, Sarah was the favorite, I thought. Well, she probably is. Yeah. Because she's an Olympic medalist, but she's not very good on the bottom. And I noticed that in the Misha fight. That's a good back take. That's a long time. That's a professional back take.

Oh, she's getting fucked up. Bro, name a wrestler who's really good on the bottom. It's tough. That's the problem, because they're so dominant. They're so used to being on top. They spend all their time dominating on top. Sarah's moving. She's about to get choked out, son.

Oh, my goodness. It's close. It's close. I bet you she taps to it. She's going to tap. She's going to tap. It's over. Oh, my goodness.

Oh, damn. Oh, my goodness. Amanda Nunes. That's a bad bitch right there. Amanda Nunes is badass. She beat the shit out of her. Damn. She is badass. Holy shit. Oh, my goodness. Amanda Nunes. That's a bad bitch right there. Amanda Nunes. She beat the shit out of her. Damn. She is badass.

Holy shit. She's really badass. Shit. Dude, look at that. She battered her. Wow, she just said that she was the girl that beat Ronda. Wow. Every girl says that.

I got a whole new respect for this girl right here. Yeah, but she can't say she's the girl that beat Ronda because she just got ground out by Misha Tate. Oh, she's American Top Team. Powerful, Amanda. Good for her. She's badass. That was great professional groundwork right there. I love she's American Top Team. Powerful, Amanda. Good for her. She's badass. That was professional groundwork right there.

I love that she did this. Hopped over the fence. Fuck it. Mike Brown. Good for her. She's wicked. She's wicked, man. That's 135, huh?

Yep. Damn, man. She looked great. Got a new star right there. 135. But she was striking against a wrestler. She was striking against a wrestler. Bitch.

You fucked up. No, you'll fight Ronda. Sarah McMahon hits hard. That's a good fight for Ronda right there. You fucked up. No, you gotta fight Ronda. Sarah McMahon hits hard. That's a good fight for Ronda right there. You know what I mean? She fucked Misha Tate's orbital up.

I'm not saying she's gonna beat Ronda. I'm saying I would want to watch that shit. I would watch it. I want to watch her get fucked up. Watch this.

Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Oh, man. You're the biggest Ronda fan ever. Boom. Oh.

Damn. Look at this. God damn. Sarah McMahon broke Misha's orbital. Yeah, her eye was fucked up from that. She hits hard at this. God damn. Sarah McMahon broke Misha's orbital. Yeah, her eye was fucked up from that. She hits hard, man. For sure.

Amanda battered her, dude. Dude, you know what I don't want to see happen? Paige Van Ants fight... Joanna? No. Yes. That's horrible. Because Paige is so damn hot, and Joanna is just...

I would love to see this. I would love to see that. Eddie! I would love to see it. And you know what? Why? Paige Van Ants is a fucking hustler. She might be able to pull it off, but you know what?

I put all my money on Joanna. I'll never bet against her. But the bottom line is, if that fight was coming on right now, if you just, Paige Van Zandt, Joanna, I can't say it less, man, you'd freak the fuck out. It's not a competitive fight. It's not a smart fight. But you wouldn't really care for the fight? No, because I don't see Paige's face get destroyed.

Have you ever seen another female fighter destroy a girl? Like Juliana Pena? Yes. I've never seen another female destroy a girl's face like Joanna did to Pena. Ever. That's the beautiful part of the game. That's why we love the game. Juliana Pena, the 135, was also badass.

She hasn't fought in a while. She's a fighter. Paige Van Zandt trying to beat up everybody. Who did she beat? She beat Felice Herrig. Yeah, she beat the shit out of her. She beat the braids off her.

Yeah, she beat the shit out of her. Were you sad? No. No, that was a competitive fight. It was different. Oh, you don't think Felice is that pretty? Is that what you're saying? No, I didn't say that.

I think Johanna's a monster and she's going to throw elbows at Paige's dime-piece face. I don't want to see that get ripped. I agree with Brendan 100% on that. I just think you shouldn't fight someone if you're not ready. And I think she's really learning MMA when Joanna's a six-time world Muay Thai champion. Yeah, she's just not having the experience yet. I'm Anthony Hardon.

You're right, Joe. Take down defense is fucking stellar. Give Paige like four fights, and then give her to Joanna. Give her four years. Anthony Hardonk, who is Ben Saunders' striking coach now, I hung out with him at the Chicago show. He mentioned that Joanna was going and training with the Dutch guys at his gym for years, forever. They knew that she was going to be a stunt.

Yes, because she's this little girl from Poland training with all these giant monsters. He said there was nobody her size. She was in there sparring with big dudes. I'm a fan. She's just crazy. And they knew, man, if she keeps it up, they knew she would be a star. She won me over in that Peña fight. I was like, holy balls.

I've never seen a female like this. It's Peña. Yeah, she smashed her. Hardong said. Peña, that's right. I'm saying Peña. My bad. She's the best striker, period, in MMA.

It's arguable. I said that today, and I did some UFC countdown shit today. I'm like, she might be the best technical striker in all of MMA. And the combo with her takedown defense. You take her striking and her takedown defense. God damn. She's terrifying. She's going to be very hard to beat.

She might not ever lose. You know what's a good story? Is Juliana Pena versus Ronda Rousey That's a good story Yes, eventually Because she was on Ultimate Fighter with her She's Misha Tate's training partner She doesn't like Ronda

And you know what? She is mentally as strong as you've got to be To go against someone Ronda She's very I'm telling you right now I'm very go against someone wrong. She's very... I'm telling you right now, I'm very impressed with Amanda Nunes. She's no joke. No, she's no joke.

Are you kidding? She's no joke. Sarah McMahon's back to the drawing board now. Dangerous. Good Lord, is she ever. That's tough. She has a rough story, too, man. Ultimately, every girl's gotta be that good.

Stop talking over each other so much here, boys. She has a rough story, Sarah? She has a rough story, yeah. I think her brother died or something like that in high school. That's why she started wrestling or some shit. Nunes can crack too, man. Everybody want to thank. I prepared very hard for this fight.

I live for fight. I die for fight. They're all getting better, man. Everybody going to pay attention to me now in the UFC. They know why I love you. How long has Women's MMA been around, Joe? Not very long. 2001. What would you be saying? Translate. I just want to thank I love you. Well, how long has Women's MMA been around, Joe? Not very long. 2001. Not very long.

2001. What would you be saying? Translate. I just want to thank Brian Callen for his acting and his comedy. For me, it's my big inspiration. It's a pleasure for me to watch him so much, so I wish he was here. And to kiss him just one time, his lips. I know he's married.

He's skinny, but he has a beautiful ass. How would Joey translate what she's saying? Listen, Ron, I'm coming for you, bitch. You better run. You better hide. Lock your fucking cats up. We're making everybody up in here. Hide your mom.

Hide your mother. Hide your fucking... Hide your acai. Put your fucking beans and rice and fogog of the Childs in half-mask. Run away, cocksucker. That's what he said when Eddie beat Hoyler Gracie. He called us up and he goes, Fog of the Childs got their flag in half-mask today. Fog of the Childs got their flag in half-mask. That's one of the funniest things anybody's ever said ever that's hilarious he called wow i did the podcast uh the day after right wasn't it the next day yeah yeah yeah the next

day that's one of those things i wish i thought of that's so funny he's just so brilliant he called he called us up he's just he's just like the funniest fucking guy ever he was on the podcast we were talking about suicide It was fucked up We're talking about knowing people that died and I talked about the girl in laughing this girl that I used to date that died and I Said Joey do you know anybody that ever that ever they did you ever like date a girl that she wound up killing herself? He goes no they showed up You get my fucking he goes I had chlamydia for seven years Fucking infested He goes I had chlamydia for seven years

I can't breathe tears are rolling down my face. This is a pause. He goes no You know you talk about Ronda being a phenomenon MMA. What about Joey fucking Diaz being a phenomenon, man? His followers are so goddamn. He's got some followers that would die for him. His periscopes. He periscopes every morning, and he smokes a bowl and periscope. And he's got like 2,000 people watching him smoke weed every morning.

He's the best comedian ever. I've seen them all. Ever? Ever. I've seen them all. I've seen everybody. I've seen live. I saw Kennison. I saw Hicks in his prime.

I worked with Richard Pryor. He was out of his prime. I saw Bill Cosby. I saw Rodney Dangerfield in his prime. I saw all these guys in his prime. I think Joey's better than all of them. I think he's the funniest guy that's ever lived. He's the funniest. I don't want to give up the bit because this new Bill Cosby

bit, I was screaming and slapping the table. I was sliding under the table in agony. God damn, he's funny. He's the funniest guy ever. Tell us off air. Off air, I'll tell you. He's so funny. I don't want to give it up, but he's, I don't know if he's at the store tonight. I don't know

where he's at tonight, but goddamn, he's good. You know, Brian Kemp. I think he's right after me tonight. Hold on a second. I think he's at the store. Tonight? Yup. I'm bringing him up tonight at 1130.

Oh, shit. I'm bringing him up. I'm at the store at 11... It's Bobby Lee, Duncan Trussell, me, and Diaz. Jesus. Powerhouse. Boom. That's a good lineup.

Boom. That's an hour of power right there. Joey's the best, man. And he's... I love him. He's's a good lineup. That's an hour of power right there. Joey's the best, man. I love him. He's just a good dude. How can you not love him? Warm, sweet guy. He'll call me. I mean, me and Joey are cool. We're cool, but he'll call me like,

how you doing, man? I love you. You doing alright? I'm like, yeah, I'm good, man. He said to me, he goes, you know, Joey Diaz is just a really good guy. What do you mean? He goes, just call me up and ask me how you're doing. Tell me you love me. He wanted to make sure I was all right. He's beautiful. He's an old school gangster, man. He's beautiful.

He don't want to text. He just wants to talk to you. Yeah. I got to hear your voice. Yeah, I know. Yeah, he goes, I go, how come you don't like text messages and voicemails? He goes, I'm insecure. My fingers are too fat.

He goes, if I fucking talk to you, I know. Are we cool? Is everything good? I love you. All right, I love you. He goes, we're losing that shit. He's right. He's right. He's 100% right. How many times has someone texted you something? You're cool? Is everything good? I love you. All right, I love you. He goes, we're losing that shit. He's right. He's right.

He's 100%. How many times does someone text you something? You're like, what is that? He's the only guy I talk to on the phone. Joey Diaz. I get it. I don't talk to anybody. I talk to Joe occasionally, but generally it's all texting.

You're right. Everything is texting. I talk to you occasionally. I talk to Brian on a fairly regular basis, and I talk to you fairly regularly, and Joey. And that's it. And Duncan. And Ari. And Ari occasionally. I talk to Brian on a fairly regular basis and I talk to you fairly regularly and Joey. And that's it. And Duncan. And Ari. I talk to Joey every day, sometimes two or three times a day. But Ari mumbles so bad I can't talk to him on the phone.

What's wrong with him? I have to be able to read his voice. Because he just talks like this. Fucking New York City. Whatever. Is he still in New York? Yeah, man. Dude, Ari is bawling completely out of control right now. Really? His podcast is killing it.

It's always like top 15, top 20 on iTunes in the comedy section. Selling out everywhere. Goes on tour internationally for like a month. He's doing a month in Australia, doing a month in Scotland. Good for him, man. Just does whatever he wants. Has an apartment in New York City that he's got somebody else leases it while he's not there. He has like a

laptop. He has my old couch. Oh, he sold it. He's not materialistic at all. He's the most unmaterialistic guy in the world. But he's got money for years now. He's just been saving it. He's squirreled away all his money because he doesn't spend it. He's so frugal. I was trying to get him to buy a nice car.

I was like, dude, treat yourself to a nice BMW 3 Series. I go, come and drive my car. I'll let you borrow my car for a few days. The opposite of frugal over there. Just give me the best shit. He's always giving the best shit. I'm more like Joe. Joe's always been that way.

Yeah. I think it works. I don't like that. You know what? I agree with you, man. I'm the exact same way. Me and Joe are a lot. We have cars that have trash everywhere.

Our office is a fucking disaster. Yeah. You know, and I don't like to think about money. I go, like, today I went to Cheesecake Factory, me and my wife and my son, $40 check. I tipped him $15. Yeah, man. Yeah. It's way better.

Or $10, sorry, $10. Joe's always paying. Joe's always paying. $40. I wouldn't brag about it. Yeah. I would leave $100. Yeah, I'd leave a stone cold $50 if I was going to say it on this podcast.

Joe, we were in Seattle. That's not bad. Check this out. We're at the airport in Seattle, me and Joe, and we get coffee. I just get a coffee. And Joe goes, he gives the guy money. And then I see him put something in the jar. And he goes, get out of here.

And I go, what are you doing? And I look, and it's a $100 bill on the tip jar. And I go, the fuck? He goes, yeah. I call that a love bomb. Then I get the fuck out of there. He was aggressive about it. He was so aggressive.

I put $100 in the jar. I get the fuck out of there before they even know what the fuck happened. Like, aggressive. I was like, all right, bro. Take it easy, man. Take it easy. I mean, did you date the guy? No, you don't want credit for it.

It's awkward. You don't want to see, like, hey, man, can you just give me $100? You don't even want to get credit for it. Just get out of there. Get out of there and know that when you're over by gate 22, this guy's going to have a good feeling. I love you for that. You don't feel it, but they feel it.

If you can make someone feel happy like that, but it doesn't bother you at all, if you do know whether or not you have an extra $20 or an extra $50 or $100, I don't know. It's not real. Me and Keller were talking about this the other day. If someone needs money, I just give it to them. I don't give a fuck, man. I stopped loaning people money a long time ago, but I've given people. I give it to you. I don't expect to get anything back. Because if I

expect to get it back, then we're going to have problems. And then there becomes this weird kind of dynamic between us. So if I just give it to people, and then whatever, man. Yeah. I've had a few friends like that. See what happens with red wine? You just keep drinking it.

I mean, I'm doing good. I'm not Joe Rogan Scrooge McDuck, Rich. Yeah, but luckily, dude, you guys are on your way. That podcast is goddamn gigantic. I see those shirts all the time now. I see the sex, drugs, and podcasting shirt the most for some reason. I see that bitch everywhere. Look at that sexy motherfucker.

There he is. It's me. There's a lot of it. I see that bitch everywhere. Look at that sexy motherfucker. There he is. There's a lot of it. This is a good goddamn fight right here. Great fight. Who else? Is Arlovsky and Frank Mir on this one, too? Dotson and Mighty Mouse?

Yes. Arlovsky and Frank Mir are on that card. Because it sucks because these are two of the most talented guys in the UFC. Mighty Mouse might be the most talented in the world by far in the UFC, but these two can't carry a pay-per-view. They just can't. You know what it is, man? I really think that it's going to take some time, but I think that Mighty Mouse is such a good guy.

He's so well-spoken, and Dodson is the same thing. Dodson is just spectacularly fucking talented. It's just going to take a while before people realize it, but I talk about it as enthusiastically as I physically can. I know, man. I'm very high on this fight. I can't wait for this fight like some Russian destroyer to come in to make it interesting You know I go to you know, he got fucked he got a pop for PEDs. He tested hot blood dope EPO He was on EPO. Yes, and mighty mouse still ran a train on how about

Chinese guy comes in with like some serious kung fu need a ride Or if some Chinese guy comes in with some serious kung fu. You need a rival. You need a rival. You know what I'm saying? We need something. We can't have two brothers going at it at the flyweight. It's tough, man. It's a tough sell.

A Brazilian. If we see a Brazilian, that would be interesting. I'm surprised there's not more small Brazilians killing the game. A little tiny Brazilian who's killing everybody. That'd be dope. You said something very controversial recently that the MMA media picked up on. You said that Brazilians that the MMA media picked up on. Surprise. You said that Brazilians, they have a four-part diet.

You like jiu-jitsu, wrestling, steroids. What was the other one? You got heat for that. I get death threats. There's one guy who's like, fuck you, motherfucker. You fucking fuck. Motherfucker. He used fuck 50 times. I get death threats now. I got a legit point, man.

Well, you got to look. You know, I've heard mad accusations behind the scenes, like mad accusations. And I can't talk about it because it's not responsible. But it's that old thing from the fucking CNC Music Factory song. Things that make you go, hmm, yes. 100%. No, I just don't throw these bombs out without having information behind it but again there's certain stuff i can't talk about so i throw out these bombs and i get

the people just talking to me like no no i didn't just make this up yeah that's the thing there's stuff i can't talk about you're coming from a place of knowledge you're not some dude who works in a tire shop who's talking yes. Yes, no. Who's never strapped on a cup. Yes. Yeah. If anybody's allowed to talk about it. You know, this is a big fight for me, man. I really am into this fight.

Look how fucking goddamn fast John Dotson is. And not only that, John Dotson knocks motherfuckers dead. Look at him. He knocked out T.J. Dillashaw. Look at this. Look at that. Come on, son. Who the fuck knocks guys out? I agree. I fly away. Dude, he's so this. Look at that. Come on, son. Who the fuck knocks guys out at flyweight?

He's so powerful. Me and him is my second fight ever. Look at him. Listen to this. My second fight ever in Washington, and I have my headphones on, and John Dotson and I are in the same locker room because Greg Jackson was cornering us. It was by far my biggest fight of the time. Only second fight ever. And I was fighting this Olympic wrestler, Johnny Curtis.

And I have my headphones in, and I'm so nervous. I'm like, fuck, man, this wrestler, man, he's about to dry hump the fuck out of me. And I'm getting ready to walk out, and I'm listening to Rihanna in my headphones. Which one? I forget which one, but it's like more of an up-tempo beat. Look at Tim Johnson's mustache before we go any further. Let's keep him away from the high school. Kudos to you, sir.

Kudos to you, sir. Kudos to you. Continue. So I'm walking out for this big fight, and John Dotson goes, hey, we don't know each other very well at all. He goes, hey, are you listening to Rihanna, man? I went, yeah. He goes, fuck, that's lame.

I went, oh, I don't know him. Oh, thanks, man. And then just kept walking. I'll never forget that. He said, fuck, that's lame. Yeah, he's like, fuck, that's lame. That's funny. Literally, as I'm walking to the octagon. He's being silly. No, he's a silly-ass that's lame. That's funny. Literally has him walking to the octagon.

He's being silly. No, he's a silly-ass dude. He's a silly dude. He's working at Buffalo Wild Wings at the time. Wow. He pulls a mustache off this guy. Usually, you know, it's a pedophile thing. No, he's an animal.

He pulls it off. He's a handsome guy. Rochelle's a bad motherfucker, too. He's at Team Takedown. Big boys. With Hendrix. He's doing a Hendrix-Tyron Woodley fight. That's interesting.

Ooh, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo. That's a great fight. It is. Look at that goddamn Tim Johnson mustache. I love you. You know what? Real soon, that's going to be popular amongst high school kids. I agree.

And they're all going to wear it. 100% hipster. I'll be the first one here with that bullshit mustache. Just fucking. That doesn't look good on you, sir. Well, you would own it. I think slowly. The one that goes down.

That's not true. The one that goes down. I don't know. I've seen it. A thick one like that. I've seen it. It's going to come back. First of all, it doesn't come in that thick.

It doesn't. You could work on that. Yeah. Figure out a way to fucking put some testosterone in it. It comes in like a conquistador. You know what's going to happen? It's going to come in. It's going to be popular.

Everyone's going to have one of those Tom Selleck mustaches. Then it's going to get played out. True. And it's going to be gross. And then the new young kids are going to look at you when you're older with that mustache. Right back to you. He looks like an overgrown musketeer. Eddie overthinks everything when it comes to style and fashion.

Because at one point, the Burt Reynolds child molester mustache was fucking getting a pussy. No, they kind of came in. They came back for a little while, and then they faded back out. Look at now, beards. Look at beards are so in. Who would have ever thought Grizzly Adams would look cool? Beards are going away now, though. Beards are like a fucking tramp stamp.

Everyone has one. You think so? No, I think beards are pretty strong. No, I'm telling you they're not, man. It's on its way out. You think so? Yeah. The way Joe always wears his is what's in right now.

I'm a trendsetter, bitch. I've been doing this for back... It's called being... I read GQ every week, man. How about the five o'clock is in now? Yeah. Fiveclock is what you want oh my god i'm gonna rule that shit yeah what about me i was doing five o'clock before it was cool because i was lazy i'm not good with style that's what i just said what'd you say i just said that so it's called being lazy yeah oh really you don't even listen oh my god i'm ripping off your repeated punchlines seconds later

The beard and skinny jeans is like a tribal freaking band tattoo Cardigans went away. They were a while guys were trying to look lame on purpose Yeah, rolled up pants seem to be in a lot of guys are rolling up the bottom purpose. Rolled up pants seem to be in. A lot of guys are rolling up the bottoms of their pants. Oh, roll up pants. You're not mad at that. How long is that going to last? I got to turn you on to these fucking jeans. They're called barbell jeans. I just started wearing them. My shit was tight. Wait, what are they? These motherfuckers. Dude, these are, look at this. They're made out of like this stretchy. Oh, and then they bounce back. Dude, they're like sweatpants. Look, you have no restriction. You want stretchy jeans? Totally,

a hundred percent. Girl's been wearing them for a while now, but do the loose They're good for street stretchy jeans street fine nothing good for turning side Guys, what if you jump by ninjas? The most comfortable jeans I've ever worn but when did when did Trey need a year to tramp stamps get Like a gross on a dude what year? get, like, gross. On a dude. What year? On a dude? They were always gross on a dude. No, no.

I haven't seen one of them. Your memory is... It depends on which dudes you're fucking. Do you have one? You fucking have one? Let me see your lower back. Arch your back. Lick your lips. Let me see what's going on.

There you go. He's got nothing. I'm just checking, Eddie. your lips let me see what's going on there you go nothing you gotta just check in Eddie got a back you defended the shit houses on his coccyx from doing the guard no one point it wasn't not cool it was probably but at one point nobody had any some dude they were never cool bro no for males the toys right away tell me the first dude that got a tramp stamp people thought he was gay no he came to his buddies and buddies went god that's a bad idea bro if you're a tommy right away so you're saying right away right away it was never cool now

if a girl has it i i see a girl with that i'm like yo do you have good parents now my dad sucks cool let's talk i do those kind of guys but for a girl even it's kind of not cool, right? The girls still get no no At an all-time low ribs, right? I think if we saw a graph of the tramp stamp you would see 1993 the fucking peak and then BAM by 2015 that's it's fucking it's cool where do you get them where's true there's not as many but if a girl has something artistic back there like really good work like you know it's like to the tribal stuff's kind of like um why you

doing that back there but every now and then you'll see something looks really good like a yakuza tattoo I don't so rare. Personally for me, I don't give a shit. If a girl has a tramp stamp, who gives a fuck if she's hot? You should start a website called reallygoodtrampstamps.com. I'm sure it's out there. Who gives a fuck? Let's see if reallygoodtrampstamps.com. I don't care.

Can you imagine a hot chick, she's cool, she's making you laugh, and then you turn around And then you're like Oh no I'm out of this bitch No Guess what guys Reallygoodtrampstamp.com

Does not exist What So anyone listening Go for it Huh Hey this heavyweight fight Let's bring the tramp stamp back Right here

Because they're both wrestlers It's not that Let's see what this fighter Does she have a tramp stamp Does she have a tramp stamp? She's pretty Did you see the new Brazilian ring card girl? Which one? The new one

Alright, Tim Johnson and Jared Roshalt Yeah, well there's a bunch of really pretty ones Bro, this new one I just saw the other day I almost fell on my seat Tim Johnson, Jared Roshalt Tim Johnson's the one who looks like Bronson from that Australian movie. Yeah, right. English movie.

Good movie. Was it English? English, yeah. It's a big film. It's a real guy. The Australian guy, Tom Hardy, was the actor, right? Yes. Is that what it was?

Correct. English. Great movie. All the same shit to me. There's a couple of big white guys. Big. Big white. Big fucking boys.

Giant whites. A lot of flesh flying around right now. A lot of stakes. Like, there's different stakes when you're fucking dealing with a 230-pound man punching you. Right, Brendan? Yeah, a jab will rock your world. You were talking about that, about the 225 division. You got a good point, man.

I think that's exactly the right weight, too. 225 makes sense. Yeah, that's the right weight. Because you're talking about, you know, if I weigh in at, you know, I've weighed in as light as 231, 232, and I fight a guy that's 265. Basically, 35 pounds heavier. 30 pounds heavier. That's insane.

And you would get a lot of those guys cut and weight down, too, to get to 225. You would get a lot of guys. I mean, we have guys that have cut to get to 265, right? Oh, yeah. Tim Sylvia. Brock Lesnar. Soap Paul Lely. He just lost, right?

He had to cut to 265. Dude, I was there when Tim Syl Derek Pele when Tim Sylvia was at his most Muscular best when it was like when he beat Rico and like those those days Tim So he was giant and he's like that guy he used to cut way to get to 265 a lot of people sleep on Tim So but I'll tell you what the team did Tim Sylvia that beat Rico Rodriguez He was a monster one of the best every way to do it He's not sure time would be one of the hardest heavyweights to beat. You're talking about a guy,

how tall is he, six, eight? Something crazy like that. Crazy, crazy takedown defense, great stand up. That motherfucker was bad.

Who was that? Kim Sylvia. Kim Sylvia. He doesn't get enough credit. Game is fucked. Super game. Frank Mir breaks his arm, he's trying to punch him with the other arm.

Didn't even know. Do you remember the Noguera fight? Yes. How did Noguera win? Guillotine. How? Because he reversed him. He baited him into it and reversed guillotine go back back backtrack like uh was it wins from half guard he let him get up and then how did he get to half guard i forgot garden did he pull half guard pulled guard he got hit he got tagged he got pulled guard. No, he just went for a shitty single.

Oh, and then went to his back. And then pulled deep half. There you go. Swept him with a deep half, got on top. That's right. Top half, and then guillotined him. He couldn't take him down. Didn't Tim Sylvia hurt him?

Didn't Tim Sylvia hurt him? Tim Sylvia was fucking him up standing. And he couldn't take him down, and he was like, I'm losing this motherfucker. I can't take him down. So what did he do? What did he do? He said, I gotta pull fucking guard. Okay, so he pulled down. So what did he do? What did he do? He said, I got to pull fucking guard. So he pulled guard by going with a fake takedown.

Like a shitty single. And then he just fell. And he went to the deep half. And then he just swept him. He outsmarted him. And then baited him into sitting up, grabbed the neck, and then choked him out. It was just like, went right through him. He had to pull guard to get that fucking guarantee.

How goddamn tough is Noguera? Did you see the fight with Stefan Struve? He's so tough. I wanted to jump out of my TV and be like, can someone please stop this? Oh my god. you see the fight with Stefan Struve? He's so tough. I wanted to jump out of my TV and be like, can someone please stop this? Oh my god. Fuck this, man. He's too tough. He's too tough for his own good. He's way too tough. He was getting destroyed.

His body was getting just smashed. That made me feel sick. Speaking of great heavyweights, Fedor, in the talk with the UFC. Why'd they just stop this? They separated him because they weren't active enough What do you think? You just give them Verdum right away and say fuck the world

Fuck the world, we're gonna do it, fuck you guys Shut the fuck up, let's do it You don't have to be so aggressive, it's business You know what, because there's gonna be a bunch of douchebags out there going He should have to earn his way to the top It doesn't matter, man No one's really gonna say that

You always can have people complaining He lost a big foot He should have to earn his way to the top. It doesn't matter, man. No, it's Fedor. No one's really going to say that. I had a guy call me. You're always going to have people complaining. It doesn't matter. No matter what you decide. He lost a big foot. Full mount. He lost a, you know, he lost. Look at this.

Rochalt. He's trying to get to full mount. Arm triangle. For sure let go of that headlock. No, he's in full mount, man. He's in full mount. Oh, yeah, he is now. For sure let go of that headlock.

This dummy doesn't know what he's doing. He has no idea. He could go Von Fluh choke. Yep. Should he jump over to the other side with both feet? No, he should go Von Fluh. He's got an arm triangle. He's going Von Fluh. He's got an arm triangle or Von Fluh. No, he has Von Flu choke. Should he jump over to the other side with both feet? He's going Von Flu. He's got an arm triangle.

No, he has Von Flu. Or Kimura. This side is Von Flu. He let go. He let go, but he still could get choked out here. I had a Fox reporter call me. He's like, I want to get your thoughts of fighting Fedor.

You got no interview, man. There's no thoughts. That's so dumb. I don't even deserve to fight that guy. They just know you're a loose cannon. They know I'm going to drop some bombs. Not when it comes to Fedor, though. I was just like, I got nothing for you, man. I wouldn't disrespect that guy like that. He needs to fight for the title. I think he goes right

to Verdum. Oh, so if they wanted you to fight him, if they said, hey, we need, let's get Fedor in here, we'll introduce him. A warm-up? Yeah, we'll get him Brendan Shaw. You wouldn't do it? I probably would for Fedor. But they're not going to do that.

He needs to go right to Fedor. Yeah. You never know. You never know. Rochelle with some good side control here. It doesn't make sense, man. I personally, I would give him right to Verdum. How about Kane?

Kane Velasquez. Yeah, let's not give him any... Let's just go right to what he wants. The rematch. The story is the rematch. That's the story. Let me ask you this about these shorts. Are you allowed to wear regular shorts or tight shorts?

Yeah, you pick. Reebok makes both. Don't you think they should just go with only tights so that grabbing them is no longer an issue? No, because some guys are self-conscious about it and they don't feel comfortable in tights. So you're going to force me to wear fucking tights now? You're already in your underwear. Yeah, but some guys like shorts. It's not a problem. But it's not a game changer. It's not like an epic problem.

Oh, it does come up occasionally. Yeah, but it's not like holy shit, these guys keep grabbing shorts. Right. I feel you, though. I feel like it's like, even if it's 1% or 1 tenth of 1% of clinch situations, you can avoid that. True. I'm not trying to see fucking this dude with the mustache and some tights, though.

It's bad for marketing, bro. But Rochelle's wearing tights. Is Rochelle wearing tights? It looks like shorts. No, they're shorts. He's just so goddamn big they look like tights. I like that American flag on his chest. Pull that chest apart. It's an interesting American.

Oh, I see. He's American underneath his skin. I got you. Heart of American. God, America. Not like this fucking guy from Australia that used to be in prison. Was that... About to fight.

Damn. That guy's mean looking. Australian prisoner. His body looks... Oh, man. He could... Yeah, his body is... If he fucked you in the ass, you wouldn't be shocked.

He's got a relaxed physique. He looks like you're fucking... He's rather relaxed. It would be the humiliation of not just a big guy fucking you, but feeling his gut slap against your ass. Nothing worse. But you wouldn't be shocked at all. You wouldn't be surprised. You'd be like, I figured.

The sides of his gut wrap around the sides of your ass. Bro, I fought Chris Tushisher, and that went through my mind. I thought, if I lose this guy, he's the worst body I've ever seen. How dare you. How dare you. How dare you. You knocked the gentleman out and talked bad about his body. There's got to be a way he could definitely lose that gut.

That gut is... All they have to do is just not eat the same foods. You know, I mean, that's the thing about the... Oh, he's kind of rocked them. Oh, the standard American diet. I mean, these guys are big, giant dudes. But listen, it's real simple. Calories in, calories out.

100%. If your body has got... If you're carrying around that much body fat, you're taking in too many calories. And the wrong kind of calories. Now, the question is... It's still 22 is, though. It's still 225, 230. But is there a benefit?

Is there a benefit to carrying a little body fat like these guys are, if you don't have a weight limit, and maybe you're not as big as, say, a Bigfoot solo? A little? A little? My boy Tony's just, he said, fuck it. Fuck it. A tan for what? A tan.

Calorie restrictions for what? See, we were talking about looks. But forget about looks. Is there any benefit to having this extra weight, especially if you're on top? A tan. Calorie restrictions for what? See, when you're talking about looks, but forget about looks. Is there any benefit to having this extra weight, especially if you're on top? Hell no. What about padding? Does it make that much of a difference? It's rather unsightly.

It's unsightly. I'll be the first person to say it. I think it's rather unsightly. Have you ever had a backpack? You ever take your backpack off and there's just your laptop in it and some other bullshit? You take it off and you're like, pooh, that's light. Think about that poo that's like That's like 10 pounds like these guys might have like two or three fucking backpacks on all the time They just get used to it. Yeah, and if they got rid of that shit, they would move a lot better

Yeah, it's not a cool Analogy I never looked at it. That's a great analogy. Yeah, you feel fucking good when you take a little backpack Oh, like holy fuck. We take a t-shirt off, you feel way better. Yeah, dude, look, I've worn backpacks. When Ronella and I were hunting, Brian, we wore backpacks and carried rifles for miles and miles. It's annoying. When you take that stupid, I don't know, how much does a rifle weigh? You feel like a feather.

25, 30 pounds, I don't know. Yeah, my rifle's pretty heavy. It's a heavy rifle. When you take that rifle off and you set it down, you feel lighter. Yeah. I think it weighs about 15 pounds, right, a rifle? Well, it's probably at least 15. Let's say 15.

Mine's a really heavy rifle. Your rifle's a shit rifle. I bet your rifle's easily 20 pounds. But either way, the bottom line is it's awkward and you're carrying all that weight around. You've got fat around your legs that impedes your legs from moving as quick as they should. For sure. Especially like kicks and stuff. Could you imagine if you had to throw kicks and you had like five pairs of pants on?

How goddamn annoying that would be? But think about it. Well, first of all, and this is the way that Johnson dude, that belly's not helping. Sir. This is the way that Johnson dude looks training for eight weeks. Look at that. Now think about when he says, fuck it, and retires. at that. Now think about when he says, fuck it and retires. Oh, shit.

Think about when he says, fuck this noise. I know. This guy's in good shape. Oh, shit. Yeah, he's in good shape. He's in the middle of the second round still kicking. Once he retires, it's off to the races. Didn't Paul Harris say that about Jake Shields, that Jake Shields was greased?

He says that about everyone. Yeah, we thought that about Nate Marquardt, but Nate Marquardt explained it. Nate Marquardt put rubber pants on. He got a real good sweat before he went out there. For that exact reason.

Yeah, he's like, I'm not stupid because I'm going to come out there sweaty. Yep. Yep, with shave your legs and all that shit. Yeah, fuck it. He didn't shave your legs.

Who's got the fucking razor? He suspended and they took away his title. Yeah. They stripped him of his title. Well-deserved. Well, I think they're going to bring him, I mean, if they get rid of title. They stripped him of his title. Well-deserved. Well, I think they're going to bring him. I mean, if they get rid of him.

Ooh, Roshat looking for an arm. I think if they get rid of him, he goes to Bellator. I think Bellator would be crazy to not take him. I agree. For sure. He'd be crazy to not take him. He's got so much controversy behind him. He's a bad boy.

Everybody's afraid of him. Let's just get him some ayahuasca therapy, take him out to the fucking jungle, give him a straw hat. That shit ain't going to work, dog. Give him a fucking coconut with a straw in it. You know what? I think if someone else signs him, Brian goes, hey, I need you to do me a favor. You need to whoop Paul Harry's ass. I ain't whooping his ass.

I'm not scared of that motherfucker as much as everyone else. I'll give you steel. I'll give you ankle, steel, ankle girdles, and goggles. Will it make your organization look bad if you signed him? Yeah. Bellator. Will the public turn against that organization when they start petitioning? Bellator don't give a fuck.

They had Ken Shamrock and Kimbo Slices. This is different. Americana, look at the tap. This is different. Look at the tap. That's his shit. Look at that left hand. That left hand's not defending.

It's thinking it's tapping. Look at that hand. That hand's thinking. Yeah, but this is okay up here. Up here is okay. It's really when you get it down to your body that it's just you have no room for movement. He just needs to free that. Does he not know what to do?

Oh, there you go. Sometimes guys just don't know about just sucking it up next to the guy's ribs. Or he's exhausted. That's possible, too. But they're focused on the arm that's being attacked instead of using the other one to escape. That's the way out. Well, the guy on the bottom, yeah. The guy on the top. The guy on the arm that's being attacked instead of using the other one to escape. That's the way out. Well, the guy on the bottom, yeah. The guy on the bottom.

The guy on the top. Once you have that double wrist lock, you've got to concentrate everything on getting that fucking elbow to his side. That's everything. Getting the elbow to the side. Keeping it tight. Changes, yeah. Well, bringing it down.

I think he was going for the Americana, right? So if he brings it down towards the rib cage, the amount of movement that you could tolerate is so small. Yeah, there's not much range. Yeah, up here, there's so much range up there. A guy can fuck you. If a guy is really strong, like some Alistair Overeem motherfucker can get you up here and it'll hurt and you'll just tap

just because you know it's going to get ripped apart anyway. But anybody can get you down here. Once that thing gets down to your ribs, boy, the tolerance of the shoulder joint in that position. Yeah, there's not much movement there. Pofferanda in another commercial. Jesus fucking Christ. That's our fourth one, I think.

God damn it. Money, money, money. What's over it? What the fuck's up with over it? Overeem Junior Dos Santos. I just called it today. I did a countdown thing for it today. What?

That's official? I don't know, but I just leaked it. Sorry. When's that going down? Oops. When's that going down? Oops When's that going down? Sometimes I do things that don't ever take place There's a bunch of fights that I have done

Countdown shows for That have never taken place I did two theoretical fights today I did two theoretical fights That may or may not happen But they haven't been signed That might have been one of them I forget

Another one with Cyborg Rousey I'm pretty sure No, I didn't do that But I've done some before where the fights never took place. Or, you know, along the way. Something falls out. Something falls out. People get injured.

I think they've been fighting. They've been trying for this fight for a long time. But what's going on right now is that Junior is coming back from surgery. He's never been the same after those Kane fights, man. I'm a big Junior fan, but he's never been the same. That Stipe fight that he barely won. Dude, he's just never. You can't go that many rounds.

You only have so many rounds in your career, man. It sucks. It's 100% true. There's no way anybody can avoid it. It's just the way of the game. We've seen it too many times. There's no one who gets out of it without, I mean, even Mark Hunt. When Stipe beat the shit out of Mark Hunt, that was like, you

could see that this is a different Mark Hunt. This is a Mark Hunt that's like at the end you could see that this is a different mark hunt this is this is a mark hunt that's like at the end of the line well i was talking to um tough as he is i was talking my my buddy cody my buddy cody goes to vegas to have his brain uh researched by some clinic there and they're using fighters right they're doing a lifetime test where you go every year and they do five years ten years and cody went back for his five years until he did it five years ago and they said when you get knocked out it affects it depends on your on you on your brain it can affect certain parts for some people it's the way they act some people's the way they

think for a lot of people it's their motor skills it just depends for a lot of people it's their speech so he he was saying it just depends on basically the way your brain's designed. And he was telling Cody that there's certain fights, and he was telling him, Cody, go through all his fight history. And he goes, there's certain fights where, for whatever reason, you took one punch and you will never be the same. Ever. It doesn't matter what you do, but you will never be the same fighter ever again. Because it affects a certain part of the brain. Yeah, it affects a certain part of the brain that will never, ever be the same again.

Yeah, I had Kierick from MixedMartialArts.com on the podcast, and he was talking to me about this guy that we knew that they told him he could never get hit in the head again. They're like, don't ever get hit in the head again. Because of what? Because of an aneurysm? He's been just cracked too many times, or one time too many. You can get head kicked, especially if you get head kicked.

Yeah, man. It's so hard and nasty. Me and Coder were talking about it with our original team. I'm not going to mention names, but we were going through it. I'm like, bro, who's doing well now? Who's the same mentally that we can talk to? There's not many, man. There's just not many guys.

And we had a ridiculous team. If you're watching a guy like, say, Anthony Pettis, Anthony Pettis when he knocked out Joe Lozon with that nasty head kick. Or he knocked out Cerrone with that body kick. How many times can you let Anthony Pettis kick you before you're never the same again? There's a certain amount of numbers you can get hit with. That guy hits you so fucking fast and hard. And when he hits guys, they slump.

They blam! And then they slump. Like Lozon. Lozon's tough as fuck. You watch that head kick and you go, Jesus the Iaquinta fight yeah Joe it's like you know it's tough man but you the thing that people forget you're only gonna get those crazy hits the the body doesn't know whether you're doing in training or you're doing it for money the body does not know if it counts for the UFC or in

training well did you see the glory Joseph Valtellini relinquish his title for because of coast can-concussion syndrome. No, I didn't see that. Valtellini was the glory champ. Bad ass. Bad motherfucker. Super bad. Right up there with Nikki Holtzkin, they had a great fight.

Nikki stopped him in the last round. Nikki was winning the fight, but it was a good fight. And Mark DeBond, he's another guy that he fought. He head kicked DeBond, knocked him down. I mean, he's fucking very, very high level. And he goes, you know what? I got to stop. I got to stop and take some time off.

So he did commentary on this last card. It's a reality that everybody wants to avoid that's a part of this because it's everything you do. You throw your whole heart and soul into it. It just doesn't seem fair that everything you love and everything that makes you who you are and gives you your identity is also stealing your mind. But that's why people respect fighters. That's why we look up to fighters, and that's why fighters are a lot of people's heroes. But there's a price. Well, it's also combat sports.

There are two parts of your body that are not made for combat sports, no matter what. Your knees and your head. I thought you were going to say your dick and your balls. Yeah, me too. And your dick and your balls. I thought you were going to say your dick and your brain. It's the back too, Brian. I have contact.

The back is worse because they can fix the knees. They can do some pretty good fixing of the knees. They can basically fix everything except your brain. With science these days. Almost. Almost. There's some back stuff that they really can't fix. That's a bad point.

But your knees are always the first to go, though, aren't they? Not really. Your brain for sure goes before everything else. Well, your knees can go early, but they can fix them and make them better than they were before as long as you don't have too much meniscus and cartilage damage. And now, apparently, they're regenerating cartilage with these stem cell treatments. Crazy. Yeah, and this is like what we have now.

What's it going to be like five years from now? I agree. I wonder what percentage, though. They have a scaffolding now that allows them to regrow meniscus. I wonder if they have to take a cadaver, I think. No, it's an artificial meniscus. It's something that they create. I think it's like they take the cell.

Oh, shit! This fight is getting crazy. Johnson just hit Roshaw with a bomb of a right hand. Now he's got him down on the ground. I wonder what percentage of NFL football players have had knee surgery. Oh, God. Knee surgery? Yeah. I mean, a ton. It's probably like 90%. They're getting hit in the knees, though.

Well, they took away chop blocking. You can't tack out the knees. There's no chop blocking. There's certain rules they put in. But in a scramble, crazy shit happens. Sometimes guys don't mean to punch a guy in the back of the head. Crazy shit happens, and that happens in football, too. In the NFL, now the guy's running fucking 30 yards, runs a 4-3 in the 40.

What? What? Football is gnarly as fuck. It's so crazy to think of how fucking powerful these guys are. I love it. It's insane. It's insane. I couldn't stop staring at Alden Smith.

He was in just a pair of shorts. The guy that we were talking about on the TV last night? Is that the guy you were talking about? The guy you got cut by a six-foot-six guy? He got cut by the 49ers? He got cut? The 49ers released him, but I can't talk about it, but I have some shit that I know because I talked to Tarek, his head coach.

Yeah. And you'll see. He's okay, huh? He's fine. I love that guy. It's a bummer. I love that guy. Oh, his head coach. Yeah. And you'll see. He's okay, huh? Okay. He's fine. I love that guy. It's a bummer. I love that guy. Oh, Jesus.

Look at this fucking exchange touch, guys. I don't even know who won. I didn't watch close enough. I didn't watch close enough either. Anytime a heavyweight fight goes to decision, no one's a fan. Believe me. Oh, that was a wild fight, man. That was a wild fight.

Yeah, that was a wild fight. I think our definition of wild's different, but yeah. That was kind of fun to watch. Yeah. I'm going to say wild. It's not the greatest. My God, Brendan. Just say it's not like a radius my god I'll just say it's not wild gentlemen have their bout his ring rather is being rather judgmental and

Confidential and gonna eat into the night for sure Yeah, we tried to do this Yeah, we can hear that shit loud and clear, dude. These are good microphones. This isn't your set up. This isn't Fox. These are real microphones. This is all high-tech shit. Hold on.

Yep, can still hear it. There's microphones that we can get that will catch even more of the atmosphere of the room than this. I think this is the right compromise. This is my favorite studio, man, I've ever been in. I love this studio. Me too. I've got to recreate this bitch in the new spot. I was telling you guys a little bit off here,

because we were renegotiating our contract with Fox, and the heads of Fox, the suits, they hate the kid in Big Brown, but they love our numbers. How do you know they hate you? They don't know the podcast. No, no, no. They don't know the podcast. But they listen to it because like, what's going on? We're getting all these comments and then me and Brian

are talking about dick jokes and honey dicking and chicken heads. It's not very corporate. Tell them what they told you. This is Pete. He goes, is there any way you guys can talk less about dicks? Is there any way? I went, no.

That's what we do, bro. Probably not. We just can't. We're too young to do that. I'm 48. Well, here's the thing, man. Once they start asking you, it's just never going to stop. No, no, that was the term, though, because we came to an agreement.

And they go, we're going to let you keep doing your thing because you have great numbers. You guys do that. And now we're going to do, we just signed this deal to do Digital shows of Brian and myself like Robin big. What's Robin big? basically like How would you describe Robin big Jamie? What is it? It's a it's a reality show but like that you do stupid stuff like Brian I gonna attempt naked and afraid we go go fucking out in the woods, but now you do this Why didn't you guys talk to me first?

We're going to go fucking out in the woods butt naked. Who let you do this? Why didn't you guys talk to me first? Don't do this. Don't do a reality show. It'll be too... No, it's not a reality show. It's an extension of the podcast. Yeah, it's just two or three minute sketches.

Yeah, yeah. Like sketches. Naked and afraid for two or three minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Brendan learns how to be an actor. Your podcast numbers are undeniable now. Yeah.

It's going well. You're getting 50 cents as a fucking guest. It's crazy. All these different people are your guests. It's undeniable. So once that happens, there's really nothing they can do. They fucked up. It's like what happened with the internet.

The government, I'm sure, would not like everyone to have access to all the information in the world all the time. But the door's open. There's nothing they can do about it now. Once it gets open like that, that's what it is. Yeah, they were cool about it. They're just like, hey, man, is there any way? What is the Kings of Leon? It's a band band they haven't done shit in a while though things are rough in nashville that's if that's the star there that's it that's all it's there that's it no big

brown nothing the audience no smiling no one's invited big brown to fight no one invited big big browns on the house their latest album has a really good song called Wait For Me. Yeah? Most of the album, not that really into. Not my cup of tea, but Wait For Me. I'm worried if I show up to a UFC event, they're going to put me in the nosebleeds. I'm going to be like, you've got to wear all this Reebok shit. Well, lucky for you, you know somebody with tickets.

Yeah! Oh, Vincent Pru. They're not going to do that to you, man. They wouldn't put you in the nosebleeds. Listen, you're an ally and an asset for the UFC. You're a huge UFC fan. Huge fan. But someone like Fox, they're going to have a problem with what you're doing because it's so unconventional.

And if you say something ridiculous, they're the ones who are going to get blamed for it. Who let these fucking guys get on the Fox network? That's also why our numbers are so big. Yes. Because I don't sugarcoat things. And I realize I'm going to get in trouble. This is why I told you. You guys shouldn't be on anybody's network. I know. You've always said that. But that's why I said to Fox, don't sugarcoat things. And I realize I'm going to get in trouble. This is why I told you.

You guys shouldn't be on anybody's network. I know. You've always said that. But that's why I said to Fox, don't censor us. And they're like, cool, keep doing your thing. As soon as your numbers drop, we're going to kill you and Brad. But you shouldn't have a contract with anybody. There's no need. There's no need for anybody to have anything in writing that connects you and them to what you guys are doing.

What you guys are doing is you guys. There's no need. You're not gaining anything by being affiliated with someone. In fact, you're losing money. You're losing money, you're losing control, and you're losing your mind because you're having to have these conversations where they tell you not to talk about dick.

You shouldn't be connected to anybody. It should be only you. This is 2015. You don't need that anymore. Another Ronda commercial. Another one. Unstoppable. Dude You don't need that anymore. Another Ronda commercial. Another one. Unstoppable. Dude, she's beyond Bruce Lee.

Come on. Ridiculous. Bruce Lee never got this big. Oh, real quick. If he didn't die, Bruce Lee would be doing commercials. Right? He would fuck Bruce Lee up. Joe Rogan.

How about that? Real quick. He sure would. Joe Rogan, Eddie Bravo. Brian said he could beat up Bruce Lee. I believe I could beat him in a fight. He's dead serious. I'm being serious.

Well, he weighed 135 pounds, and you're at least 140. Hey, man, I'm 170, bro. A little respect, number one. Is that a possibility? There's also the possibility that you were some sort of a Taekwondo fighter. Yeah, man. That's why I'm wearing the shirt, bro. So I don't know.

I don't like the way you just implied that maybe I wasn't by the way you said it, because you took a sip of wine in the very end. I'm so glad there's at least one video of me knocking somebody out online. I know. Just one. Thank you. I'm like, something. Somebody fought something.

Because otherwise I sound like you. There were a lot. Oh. Hey. Oh. Brian always goes, no, my mom has them. She'll send me. I'm like, cool.

Tell her to send me. Joe used to say that because I used to ask him. I actually do. Do you have any tapes? I have nothing. For the longest time. I was like, cool, tell her to say that. Joe used to say that because I used to ask him, do you have any tapes? For the longest time, I was like, shit. But I experienced his turning sidekick firsthand. We'd be in his garage, and he'd be murdering the bag.

And I didn't know if that was normal. I'm like, is that normal? Is that the normal? So I didn't know. So this is what happened. I would go back to jujitsu school, and there was one bag. It was a John Jock Machado Academy. There's one kicking bag that's heavy on the bottom.

It's not even hanging from the ceiling. And in jujitsu, there's always karate black belts, taekwondo black belts. In jujitsu, it's very, very common that these black belts from the striking disciplines, the traditional martial arts, are taken jiu-jitsu. So I didn't know if he was like, if it was normal. So I would have a guy kick the bag, a black belt,

and I'd say, turn and side kick. Let me see what it feels like, or it looks like. And then he'd throw it, then Joe would come and fucking throw it, and everybody would just stand back and say, what the fuck just happened? At 48 years old, he's kicking. No one else kicked the bag. No one else kicked the bag.

Just me trying to fucking work on it. Just me. I go, okay, so it's real. And then I would get into that. There was one time he went to go get his car. We talked about this on one of the other Fight Company podcasts. Oh, okay. Well, we didn't talk about this.

We were sitting with Mark De La Grata. You're great, dude. It was me. That card's amazing, by the way. I'm sorry to interrupt you guys. That card's amazing. Anthony Johnson, Jimmy Manoa. Someone's going to sleep, son.

Paige. That's your girl. Versus Alex Chambers. We were sitting with Mark De La Grata, me and Joe, and Mark De La Grata. And De La Grata was saying that he – you may laugh, but I spent a long time kicking. And I spent a long time around really good guys who could kick really hard. I've never seen anybody kick the way he does ever. And he's 48 years old.

And Mark De La Grata said, I can't hold pads because my forearms, I couldn't sign. He was trying to sign checks. He goes, my hands were shaking too much after holding fucking pads for you as you were kicking them. When I saw that Instagram, personally, I've spent a long time around good kickers and trying to kick really well myself. I've never seen

anybody kick like that. I've never seen that. There's dudes who kick harder than me. You should watch videos of Melvin Manhoff kicking them. Yeah, he kicks, but you're not that far behind, bro. You're really not. You're not that far behind. All I know is anybody that holds pads for him, and I've been around, everyone says the same thing. Holy goddamn shit, he hits hard.

He's got weird power. It's every strike. It isn't just the turning sidekick. It's every goddamn strike. It's just leg stuff. I just grew up doing it, man. Ty Quindoe gives you this weird dexterity. I don't know if that's super flexible. I did it for a long time. I don grew up doing it, man. Taekwondo gives you this weird dexterity. I don't know if there's super flexibility.

I did it for a long time. I don't have that. I have a loose snap to my hips. I don't tighten them up. It's all loose into the end. And then in the end, you're digging in. We got the pickles out, Doug? We got the pickles out now, Callan? I fucking love me some pickles, man.

There was one podcast where we just went balls deep in these pickles. That's those Grillo's pickles, though. These are like regular fucking store-bought pickles. Those things are really good, though. They're okay, but Grillo's are the shit. They're okay. Grillo's are the shit. I think if more guys did yoga, I think yoga would help your kicking a lot.

I love me some yoga, man. Yoga is the shit, dude. I agree. I think stretching and flexibility. Eddie Bravo's guard is like one of the most preposterous guards you can get caught in. It's just his leg dexterity is ridiculous. It's so unusual. And a lot

of that is because of his flexibility. His flexibility is crazy. And I see guys. It's an illusion. It's not an illusion. He always says it's crazy. It's an illusion. Please stop. No it's fucking nuts. You're way more flexible in certain ways than me and I'm very flexible. It's an illusion. No it's not. I'd love to roll with you sometime bro. Please stop. No, it's fucking nuts. Because you're way more flexible in certain ways than me, and I'm very flexible. It's an illusion.

No, it's not. I'd love to roll with you sometime, Eddie. But listen, I've seen people trying to emulate what he does, but they don't have the flexibility. Yeah. They don't have the dexterity. They don't have the flexibility. And it makes such a giant difference. It's those numbers that you get in.

It's just those numbers and the idea of what you're trying to do. And then there's all the physical shit. There's some people who are just born with different bones Yeah, they just built some people are born like hodger gracie these long-ass fucking arms They could just cinch darces in from anywhere long triangles They can get both your fucking arms trapped in like in a dead orchard You can do things with your body if you have these long bodies that you can't do, but then there's these Paul Harris bodies Yeah, like you got this goddamn gorilla. I'm next to that guy. I feel like I'm you your body if you have these long bodies that you can't do. But then there's these Paul Harrah's bodies. You got this goddamn gorilla. I stand next to that guy I feel like I'm you.

That's what it's like. Really? I stand next to him. That was dark. Brian is a slender guy. I have a beautiful expressive body. I always feel like a claw. I always feel like an extra wide claw. I see a big ass fucking arm over there.

That's what I see. Are you looking at that arm? No, seriously. On Brian? You do lift, right? Yeah, I lift. He's the body of Kermit the Frog. Hey, bro. Hey, bro. What, man? Bro, what are you talking about? Kermit has skinny legs. I have trouble with jeans, bro.

You're feeling like Kermit the Frog. Look at that arm. Flex for it. Guys, I'm relaxed. I'm relaxed as shit right now. Did you just say Kermit the Frog? My legs are way bigger than that. That's so funny.

Kermit the Frog is so funny. Imagine Kermit's body. My legs are way bigger than that. Kermit's arms. His arms are one size all the way down. Kermit the Frog here. Kermit's body! Bigger than that! His arms are one size all the way down! Hello there, Kermit the Frog here. Kermit the Frog. Kermit the Frog.

That's not bad. That's not bad! That was actually a move! Kermit's all I got there! Kermit's is the farthest I go. I'm picturing Kermit's arms with no movement at all. Nothing. Just like pipes. Just straight pipe cleaners.

So silly. Eddie, man, you and I- That's why it's so funny. Because Eddie has shitty legs. Oh shit. Kermit the Frog is like the perfect reference. That is like seriously the- if you're gonna make fun of a dude's arms, Kermit the Frog's arms. That's the worst part.

Yeah, bro. That's the funniest shit of all time. Kermit the Frog's arms. It's the worst one ever. That's the funniest shit of all time. Kermit. I take offense, I'm pissed now. Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. I think you have Uriah Faber arms. Thank you, brother. Thank you, man. Jesus Christ. Eddie, the fucking Instagram post that you and I both posted, you posted a caption with it.

There's a dude who's sucking this guy's toes. Oh my god. I posted a caption with it. There's a dude who's sucking this guy's toe. Oh, my God. I sent that to my brother. Oh, my God. But Eddie Bravo had the best caption on his. Eddie Bravo says, when you party and Rodman has the last rock. Sucked. This is you sucking on Rodman's toe for cocaine.

The reason why it came up to me was because the guy has Kermit the Far's body. Yeah. We were talking about how this guy's so meek. He's probably only three feet tall, and he's used to being humiliated. Right. So he likes big women. He's like, suck their toes. He's a gimp.

Oh, fuck. Oh, my God. Those aren't women's toes. That's a dude's foot. That's a dude's foot. Come on, man. Dude, that foot is like this, and this dude is just deep-throating these toes. So weird.

Have you guys seen it? Yeah. I sent it to you, right? Yeah, I found it disturbing. I Snapchat Joe's and sent it to everyone. Dude, that's probably how Dennis Rodman's feet actually look. Eddie Bravo on Instagram is not you. Who's Eddie Bravo on Instagram?

He's at the real Eddie Bravo. It's a girl. Bro, I gotta follow you. Is it someone named Lindsey Instagram? He's at the real Eddie Bravo. The real. Bob, I gotta follow you. Someone named Lindsey Sturge. Who the hell's that? I don't know. On Instagram? I don't know.

There's someone named Lindsey on Sturge. That had me crying, man. Who must be an Eddie Bravo fan. That had me crying. She took my shit. That's weird. So I had to do that douchey thing by saying the real Eddie Bravo. As I feel really douchey.

No, I don't. Someone took your shit I thought that originally I just thought that's what you're supposed to do if like Somebody told me once that if a girl has a second toe That's bigger than the big toe That she's undoubtedly a freak No matter what she tells you She can tell you

She goes to church The girl's a freak Really? That's not a girl though That's not a girl's foot That's not a girl's foot You're right It might be a girl's foot

I don't think so It might be like What's that girl who played volleyball? No, the girl who played volleyball, Gabriella Reese. Yeah, there's some big girls, man. Okay, here we go. Rebecca Lobos. Derek Brunson and Sam Alvey.

This is a good goddamn fight right here. Sorry about Sam Alvey. On the Ultimate Fighter Season 14, I was a guest coach on there, and he drove me fucking nuts. I didn't think he was making shit because he quit nonstop all the time. In practice? Yeah. How did he quit? shit because he quit nonstop all the time. In practice? Yeah. How did he quit?

Like when he's sparring? Things would be going rough and he'd just stop and then be like, oh, I'm hurt, and would sit out all the time. He looks nervous, man. Oh, shit. He is a tough fight. Brunson has really good kicks, man. He caught Yoel Romero with a switch kick to the head. That's when I realized what a freak Yoel Romero is.

with a switch kick to the head. That's when I realized what a freak Yoel Romero is because Yoel Romero took it right on the neck and just stunned him for a second and then just went right back to his normal natural movements. Does Yoel have a fight coming up? Did he sign anything? I do not know. That's a good question.

I think he's Weidman's biggest threat in many ways. Yoel? Yeah. No, I think Rockhold is. I think it's the greatest fight in middleweight history. You're out of your mind. Well, he's not out of his mind, for sure. It's a good fight. It's not the greatest. What's better? Brian, no, Rockhold is. I think it's the greatest fight in middleweight history. You're out of your mind. Well, he's not out of his mind, for sure. It's a good fight.

It's not the greatest. What's better? No, no, Brian, you're wrong. They're both in their prime. They're both fucking monsters in their prime. You got to tell me how you watch him go through Lyoto Machida like fucking hot butter, and you don't want to see Rockhold fight against Wyman. Well, I thought Lyoto Machida won that last round, or at least was on his way to.

You got the wrong fight. You got the wrong fight. The fuck are you talking about? Rockhold destroyed Liotta Machida in two rounds. I was talking about Machida and Weidman. I'm sorry. Either way, he lost. Either way, he lost.

Yeah. Well, Machida and Weidman had some great exchanges, and there was one exchange particularly where Machida poured it on, but Weidman is really fucking durable. His legs never went. Yes, he is. He got tagged with some shots, but it was never like, oh my god, he's going! He's going out! It wasn't like that. He's a beast. What I'm trying to say is

I think that Joel Romero is a bigger threat to Weidman than is Luke Hawkins. His cardio's gonna be an issue. Well, his cardio's definitely gonna be an issue, but I don't think he's a bigger threat. I think he's a huge threat. I think they're both huge threats. He's a different threat. Whoa, look at Derek Brunson going off! he's a bigger threat. I think he's a huge threat. I think they're both huge threats It's a different look at Derek Brunson going off

He's not he's just swinging for the fences all these are not on him I'll be better close his mouth though, but see this is one way you should relax relax We got wobbled relax boy, but he can move better than this if guys relaxed Yeah, for sure was relaxed here and not just fucking teeing off with a hundred percent He's wasting energy agree if he was relaxed here and not just fucking teeing off with 100%, he's wasting energy. I agree. If he was more efficient, he could land more shots. Damn, look at him. He's ferocious. This is what I want to see, though.

I want to see guys like this. Yeah, but for him as a fighter, he could do better. He stopped it. Stopped it. That was smart. That was good. That's a good stoppage. I love that shit. I'm a huge fan. I am, too, but if he just took it down a notch with the wildness was more accurate control We're composed market. That's experience. Yeah, it is experience

We've all you've all been in that situation Especially if you're angry at somebody and you find yourself chasing them emotion you bring emotion on you We have enough guys for the smart guys like that. Let me every now and then can I get a guy that's gonna go out? God, it's going to go out there. More than not, you're getting that, though, Eddie. More than not, you're getting that until you get to the high levels. I want to see him develop to the highest skill level possible. I think Derek Brunson's a bad motherfucker. And that's hurting the guy, like you say, being controlled and then timing it for the exact time.

Oh, we can't have one motherfucker that goes out there and throws bombs nonstop. We can, but we're not looking for unique individuals that don't reach their potential. We're looking for everybody to be as good as they can be. Fight like this, you're going to be 50-50. Fight like this, you're going to be 50-50. Fight like this, you're going to go 5-10 in UFC. Here's a perfect example. Ioana Jacek. When she had Jessica Panay hurt in the same type of situation,

she didn't do this. Everything she did looked crisp and controlled and was way more devastating. I love fighters like that. It was more devastating. But they can't all be like that. Can we have crazy motherfuckers like this every now and then? He's going to get to a higher level

where this doesn't work. He just needs to get better. That's all it is. He's really good. Take him away from me. But it's not even a matter of fact that he can't perform the punches or kicks correctly, because obviously he can. It's just a matter of composure while executing. I guarantee if you

got Derek Brunson and you were like, if Anthony Hardonk was working pads with him and you got to see him throw some combinations, he would look smooth as butter. I guarantee you. He's just fighting emotionally. I've been there, man. And he broke the dude. He did it. I mean, he really did do it. He broke him and he beat him down. But you're going to get to a certain level

and it happened with me when I fought Ben Rothwell. I threw a spinning back elbow, rocked him, and I rushed in just like he was doing and Rafa. We're oh cool story He's hurt through a close book fights over. Yeah If I would be more controlled and smart Calculated you were Lasky did actually with with Travis Brown. Yeah, he kind of fights more. Yeah, he kind of kept waiting caught Yeah, good cop bad got caught hard. You got her loss. He's also you know, he's that fight smart. Yeah, he kind of kept waiting. And he got caught. He got caught bad. Got caught hard. He got hurt.

Orlowski's also, you know, he's a guy, former world champ. He has a lot of experience. A lot of experience. A lot of guys, when you get rocked like that, especially, you know, well, you want to get in and get, you're like, oh, he's hurt. I'm going to jump on him. That's one of the guys most dangerous. Look at this.

Carl's Jr. is selling a beef burger with no steroids. That's what it said. It said no steroids. You know Carl's Jr. signed Ronda Rousey. Damn. Who didn't Rousey. Damn. Who didn't? I don't believe that. Right? Ronda Rousey is going to be so goddamn rich when she retires. It's going to be preposterous.

She's already pretty rich. She's already pretty rich. But the amount of rich she's going to be, she's going to be like Oprah rich. She's not a materialistic person at all. What if you guys got back together again? That might be a good move for you right now. You might start texting.

No way, man. Believe me. Believe me. I did her a favor, man. I'm not the guy for the job. I'm just not, man. Not man enough. I'm too much woman there.

I'm too much. I'm too much. You're too man? Yeah, she needs a guy who's going to take a back seat. That's not me. She also needs a guy who's going to say, yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Really?

Well, she's surrounded by, you know, she's so successful. She's surrounded by people that worship her and go, yes, yes, that's a great idea. When I went, I don't think that's a good idea. Now I'm a hater. No, no, no. I have no financial gain from you. I don't need anything from you. I've earned everything myself.

I don't think we should have this conversation. I agree. I got to respect for her. My bad. My bad. She can't defend herself. You started me. You got me on it, Eddie.

I apologize. I apologize. Eddie, you stirred the top. You said get back. I apologize. All respect to Rhonda. I apologize. I really do respect her a lot.

You know what? We've been talking nothing but good shit about her this whole time i think all of us i think that i fucked up we've talked about this before i think that you're not you kind of have to be out of your mind to be as good as she is you have to be you know and i think that she'll probably admit it as quickly as anybody and i think that in that position that she's in when you are that powerful and that strong and such a shining star, man, finding a guy to match that with you, finding a guy that you mesh with perfectly has got to be crazy difficult. Well, that's the struggle. That's the balance, right?

People who are that great, it's going to be tough in your personal life, man. What do I always say to you, Joe? I wish I was more batshit crazy. I'd be a way better fighter. Yeah, we've said that. If I wasn't so fucking god- And nice. If I was so nice and friendly and creative, I'd be a way better fighter, man.

And the opposite, like Bobby Lee. It's very hard for him to find a woman that can control him and dominate him correctly. Who? Bobby Lee. The comedian? Because Bobby Lee is the opposite. Bobby Lee is this this like really small Feeble guy who's afraid of everything so he's got to find the right woman for that situation

For most women it doesn't jam up. You know I'm saying yes Yeah, most women want to be like taking care of like throw me against the wall Bobby Lee's like throw me You know I'm saying but he's's funny. So there's a... He is funny. Funny helps out, man. It's a weird dynamic, man. People got to find the right person for the job. They really do.

That's really what's up. You know? And the funny shit is, like, Jay Leno and I were having this conversation about it. Name drop. Watch it. We were talking about this guy that showed up at his studio once and just started asking questions about some actress and said, do you think I could meet her? Because if I met her, I'm pretty sure that she would know that I'm the one.

And he's like, Jesus Christ. Like, could you imagine being a famous woman and have a bunch of dummies out there that think that if they got to you, that they could be the one and that they just got to meet her. Bro, think about Ronda. She has all these keyboard warriors jacking off to her all the time. God, if I could just get in front of her, man. I'm the guy for the job.

Just smell her ass. Enjoy that. If I could just drink her bathwater, man. I would fucking be on. Oh, shit. Peniel Dariusz, Michael Johnson. Who wants to bet on this fight? You want to bet on this?

Peniel Dariusz. You know what? I like both these guys. I would never bet against any one of them. Michael Johnson. Who wants to bet on this fight? You want to bet on this? Peniel Darius. You know what? I like both these guys. I would never bet against any one of them. I would never ask you to bet. I'm excited about this fight, but if you pick one, I'll pick the other. I got Delarouche. Okay.

And he's underdog. Darius. It's not Delarouche. Yeah, man. Delarouche. I've had some wine. I've had a little bit of wine. I got more wine.

Hey, I've been known to fuck up names from time to time. I most certainly don't want to bet against Penil Dariush because I'm a big fan. No, you and I aren't betting. We're just for the fun of things. In the favor of just sport and fun. Or dinner. You want to bet dinner? Okay, let's dinner.

Thanks, brother. I'm taking the underdog. It's whatever, though. Is he an underdog? Dariush is the underdog? Oh, yeah. I think he's a very skilled fighter. I like the way he fights.

And I also like what Rafael Cordero's done, man. Me too. I was cornering Brian T. City, the kid who's tearing up in the UFC he fights. And I also like what Rafael Cordero's done, man. Me too. I was cornering Brian, T-City, the kid who's tearing up in the UFC right now. I was cornering him on a low-level show in LA, and Darius was in the back

warming up, because he was the main event. And I was watching him hit mitts, and I was like, holy fuck! Really? Who is that guy? And T-City was like,

oh, that guy's the next big thing. So I went and talked to him. I saw his fight, and I'm like, dude, what's your deal? He's like, man, I'm just trying to get better, blah, blah, blah and I'm like, dude, what's your deal? He's like, man, I'm just trying to get better, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, oh, what's your background? And he starts telling me, like, jiu-jitsu

is my passion. He's this world-class jiu-jitsu guy. But I saw him just wreck some dude on the feet. I was like, you're good at jiu-jitsu? He goes, yeah, man, it's my thing. I was like, holy fuck. He's very good at jiu-jitsu. You see his fight with Jim Miller? Phenomenal. He dominates Jim Miller. Dominates him on the ground, man. Dominates him on the ground, man. Dominates him.

Crazy shit, man. Crazy, man. It's crazy. Dominate Jim Miller on the ground. You're fucking pretty good. Of the Jiu-Jitsu. Look at that. Yeah, Jim Miller's tough as fuck, man. They don't get any tougher. And he's a black belt

in Jiu-Jitsu. He submitted that Brazilian world champ. They're by armbar. Yeah. Nasty. Jim Miller is one of the best. Yeah, Fabricio Camões. Yes. Yeah, he's elite.

Very elite on the ground. He also submitted Charles Oliveira. Yep. Coming to leg lock. He's elite. He's one of those guys that I always watch fight, and I always appreciate his fights. He's fantastic.

But I'm always like, man, how many more of these does this guy have in him? It's a bummer, right? Yeah, because that style is just so taxing. Miller's just fucking super aggressive. Speaking of that style, we had a buddy, I won't mention names, fought in the UFC, and his style was kind of like that Leonard Garcia style. And I talked to him on the phone and could not understand him. Damn it.

Literally could not understand him. And I go, what are you doing these days, man? I'm just teaching a little kickboxing, and I'm working at this school. Dude, did you know Shane Mosley's fighting soon? Shane Mosley's fighting Ricardo Mayorga. That's such a bummer. We're going to have a rematch. That's such a bummer.

Have you ever met Mosley? No, but I've seen him talk. Punch drunk, son. Not just punch drunk, but how about the fact that his body seems to have deteriorated like he shrank his like his muscle definition was bums me out man he was on um there was a one of those shows that white wine get that fucking shit what's up with that white shit where's the red done yo i'm a man bro i mean if it's all we have hey what's up with the red right there. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't put that angel piss in here. Give me that red. Angel piss?

Angel piss? He calls it angel piss. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Give me some of that red, dog. Alright, man. How old are you? I'm a fan of this kid. What the weight is that guy?

Smart fucking dude, too, man. Benil Darius is a smart dude. Very, very calculated fighter. Wicked on the ground, man. Look at his ground game. Nasty fucking submissions. Michael Johnson. He's been on a tear, right?

Michael Johnson's been sparring on a regular basis with Nikki Holtzkin. Nikki Holtzkin's been training with the Black Zillions. There are some great videos of them going to war. They've been sparring exclusively down there. Jesus Christ. Yeah, and Nicky Holskins has also been working out with his Dutch kickboxing coach,

the kickboxing coach for Holskins. They're showing him combinations that they use. That's trouble because he's a good enough athlete to pick it up like that. He's picking it up.

His sparring sessions have been fucking legendary down there with Holskins. Hopefully not too tough. There's some videos of it. Well, no. There's some videos of him getting, there's one of them

getting rocked. Holskins caught him with a left hook. Someone made that up. That was Paul Gersie. That was Paul Gersie. Who was that? That's good. Already. That's nice. That might be a good t-shirt.

That's a great idea. The fighter and the kid. You with the Gurman DeFrog fucking flippers. Me as Miss Piggy. I always thought that Dutch kickboxing, like the Anthony Hardonk style, I always thought that was the Dutch's version of Muay Thai. But hanging out with Anthony, he's giving me the history. And it really has nothing to do with Muay Thai. It's more karate-based.

It's karate-based. Yeah, it's karate-based, but they did incorporate some of the Thai techniques. And they definitely did incorporate. But they use more like a Shotokan or not Shotokan, like Goju-Ryu. One of those hard styles. You said the main difference is the footwork. In Muay Thai, you kind of just plod forward. There's no footwork.

With what they do, it's like Machida. There's a lot of footwork in and out, and you just don't stand there and take shots. Yeah, they also have this fucking hard style, man. It's a hard style. The Holland style of kickboxing. They had some innovations of their own, too, like that combination that everybody calls the dutchie, that left hook to the body and the right leg kick behind it.

That's something that's really classic to Muay Thai, but the Dutch really took it to another level. They throw boxing-style combinations that the Thai guys didn't. And then when Ramon Dekkers went over there and fought the Thais. Oh, he was a beast. Oh, my God. He was fun to watch. He was a monster. And he fought the Thais at their weight.

It wasn't like Kamen or a lot of these other guys who were bigger. Guys from Holland are huge. The average height of a guy in Holland is six feet tall. And a woman is 5'10". Is that where both Overeems are from? You know what Anthony also said? Peter Ertz. You know what Anthony said?

He said that a low-level boxer can beat a low-level Dutch kickboxer, but an elite Dutch kickboxer will always beat an elite boxer. That's interesting. Because they will never withstand the leg kicks. Says the Dutch kickboxer. Exactly. No, but he's right. No, he's right.

Because the leg kicks. They can never. 100%. They don't even know how to counter. But especially, especially with boxing gloves on. Especially with boxing gloves on. No, I agree. The whole game gets way trickier when you have little gloves

Right, that's why you see Joe Schilling got knocked the stairs difference. Everything's different. Those gloves sneak through for sure Take-downs we was talking about the difference between boxing and the Dutch style kickboxing He was he really was talking about boxing like it was I mean primitive Like there's so many things that you do wrong in boxing that when the legs are involved, you get smashed. It's a different game. I think I said Joe Schilling got knocked out in glory. I meant in Bellator.

But a great kickboxer fighting a guy who's a karate guy. Yeah. He was a fucking tough karate guy, though. Very tough. Dude, I can't get enough of boxing right now. I watch every fucking boxing match. Wow. Did you see Kovalev's last fight?

Yes. God damn. I did. He's good. Lord, he's good. God damn, he's good. He's a beast, man. He hits so hard. Kovalev's last fight? Yes. God damn. He's good. Lord, he's good. He's a beast, man. He hits so hard. Kovalev is a monster, dude.

Kovalev hits so fucking hard. How do you have the time, Brandon? You're single. No, I have a girlfriend. They're usually on Saturday nights, though. I watch all those bitches.

I don't even have time for the fucking UFC and you're such a UFC expert. You know every goddamn fight. I record them, man. Holy shit It's also my twice every fight depends you watch most fights you watch important ones you watch twice important ones

Yeah, so Kovalev is damn Kovalev is just such a smooth Fight Andre Ward I think that's a phenomenal fight Andre Ward need to do something I mean, well, he's recovering from shoulder is, but he just fought. Yeah, he fought for the first time. They brought him up super slowly. Look at you guys, boxing experts. I don't know shit. I feel like a chick right now. But Andre Ward, pound for pound, I think he's the best fighter right now. He's very smart.

He's so good, man. How would he do with Kovalev? That'd be a really interesting fight. Is he white? He's black. But he's a gold medal winner? His dad was white. His mother was black. Really? Yes. He's a half. Andre Ward, yeah. He's so good, black. Oh. But he's a gold medal winner. His dad was white. His mother was black. Really? Yes. He's a half. Andre Ward, yeah.

He's so good, man. Yeah. Cool. And now boxing's on ESPN, NBC. It's so dope, man. Really? Yes. Wow.

I'd really like to see that fight. That'd be a ridiculous fight. There's a lot of really good fights in boxing right now. You know, the middleweight division is heat. You've got Canelo Alvarez, Gennady Golovkin, and Alvarez is going to fight. Cotto. What's his face? Cotto.

Miguel Cotto. You got Thurman. Yeah. God, they're fucking terrible fighters. Damn. You got Garcia. A lot of good fights. I feel like a girl right now.

Boxing's weird, man. I really do. A lot of listeners are like, what the fuck? I love boxing. It's fun. It's fun to watch. Yeah, shit. But kickboxing is more fun to me.

I'm a big fan of Lion Fight, man. I love watching Lion Fight. I love Lion Fight. Where do you see that, though? On AXS TV? AXS TV. Real Muay Thai, man. Tiff Timebomb, man.

Tiff Timebomb. Dude, she's a world champ. If she gets into MMA, it's going to be trouble, man, with her stand-up. Oh, yeah. Her stand-up's nasty. She's always kind of talked a little shit to Joanna. Yeah, she has. I'm a fan of Tiff Timebomb, too. She said Joanna was basic., with her stand-up. Oh, yeah. Her stand-up's nasty. She's always kind of talked a little shit to Johanna. Yeah, she has.

I'm a fan of Tiff Timebomb, too. But she said Johanna was basic. She said she thought her stand-up was basic. Tiff Timebomb? Is that what she said? Yeah. That's her name. She's a cutie, too, man. She's good-looking, too.

I saw her hit mitts in Black House, and I was like, good lord. She's legit. Really? One of the best nicknames ever. You know what I'm looking forward to, man? I'm looking forward to some of these jiu-jitsu girls getting into MMA. Like jiu-jitsu world champions. Kira?

Yeah, Kira fighting. Look how hot she is. She would be fighting 115. She's a looker. If she got in there, oh my God. Sign me up. She's like 5'7", 115 I think she weighs. Kira?

Yeah. Kira Gracie. Kira Gracie. Dude. She had a baby too recently. She's a 10. Really? She's a 10. 10. 10. God damn it. God had a baby, too. She's a 10. Really? She's a 10.

10. 10. God damn it. God damn it. She's a 10 and a legit strangler. She will armbar your dick, Ryan. I don't know about that. She's a strangler.

100% she will armbar your fucking face. Yeah, man. I mean, she's no Bruce Lee, but she'd give you a fight. I love her. She's no Bruce Lee, man. You'd have your hands full. Michael Johnson getting a gasoline duck. This is going to be a good fight, man.

Fuck yeah, it is. This is a great fight. Eddie, do we have a bet on the main event? OSB, Glover. I got OSB. Do you really? Damn, I have OSB, too. But I'll take Glover just for the bet.

How much? What do you want? Here we go. Oh, shit. You guys don't think that Glover's a tough fight for him? Hell yeah, it's a tough fight. But if the Glover, before he fought Jon Jones, do you think Glover has had too many tough fights?

Glover's tough. Phil Davis fights. OSP's my boy. And he just hasn't been training right. He's doing something wrong. Yeah, Eddie can't really bet on this because OSP is his boy. So this is one of those situations. Well, OSP's the favorite.

Yeah, but Eddie can't, you know. She's so hot. He's biased here. She's so hot. He's gonna bet on OSP no matter what. But he has the favorite. But even if he wasn't. He's not trading. I'll take Glover. He's very good at the twister and he's He's not gonna twister

10th Planet Glover. He's not gonna twister Glover. That ain't happening. Glover can beat you. Dude, trust me. This mother Glover's That ain't happening. Famous last words. Trust me. This mother of Glover's grappling is better than OSP's, my man. OSP is a phenomenal athlete, man. That's great. Yeah.

Okay, here we go. And his jiu-jitsu is very dangerous. Let's bet on it then. Oh, my God. How much do you want to bet? You guys are getting crazy. 500? 500.

Deal. Dude, I love it. I'm liking it. Did you pay him the last bet? I don't have... No, they covered it even, remember? Yeah, honey. Honey ticked him.

Honey ticked him into the Frankie Edgar, you're my favorite fight. So you guys are... It was so fun, though. That's the best way. Just keep doing it back and forth and just keep a tab on. What, are you going to pay each other money? Yeah, just keep it going. Come on, we'll keep a tab going.

What if it gets dark and we have to have a meeting and shit? Hey, man, you owe me $50 million. Or if it's like, bro, you have to pay me, man. It's $13,000. It's $13,000, but just give me five right now and we'll shut the fuck up. Where's Darian? I can't let you just walk away. I got to get something.

I got to get something. Instead of me giving you five, I'll bet you five on the next. If I win, we call it even. Yeah, there we go. There you go. But then you lose, and fuck, you lose a thumb. You lose a thumb. I buried it in the back room back there.

I'll bet you a thumb. Michael Johnson, here we go. Now let me ask you this. Where is Darius from originally? Do we know? I used to know. I can't remember right now. It's somewhere in like Azerbaijan or something. Herb looks sexy. Where's Darius from originally? Do we know? I used to know. I can't remember right now.

It's somewhere in like Azerbaijan or something. Herb looks sexy. It's from the steppes somewhere. This is the best fight on the card, I think. Darius. You better get Reebok done, girl. She's a lovely lady. I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers.

Which one? That ring card girl. I don't know her name. Chrissy? This guy reminds me of a... Yeah, they're both very nice ladies. Gegard Mousasi kind of thing. He's kind of...

Oh, that's racist. Relaxed there. So what happened with Darius and... I need to watch that fight with... It was his last loss, right? Him and Ramsey. Yeah, me too. I had no idea.

But that just shows, too, anybody can get caught. Anybody can get caught. At any given time, you zig when you should have zagged. He has confidence now, though. He's ripped off a couple big wins. So is Michael Johnson's confidence. Fuck, dude, man. He does a good job of keeping his chin tucked.

He doesn't keep his hands up high, but he keeps his chin tucked pretty good. He's from Iran. He's from Iran. Thank you, Jamie. There you go. Powerful young Jamie. But see how he's keeping his chin tucked here? I bet you he's a Syrian from from uh from iran why do i know that did you know that

it's you know i know that it's a sin it's a sin he made because he's a christian and so if he's a christian in iran he's probably an assyrian powerful knowledge of the world brian will drop some world shit on you man go brother how about when i guessed all their nationalities that was amazing we need a coffee shop no one spoke english brian started saying you're from afghanistan you're from belarus you're from croatia and i was like this fool's on drugs and all the girls started clapping and i go and you're from turkey did you see that hbo story on iran what the fuck's wrong with you come on brother you know i got the guns i got the current guns and i got the knowledge i'm getting pumped right now.

You know I got the Kermit guns. I'm in low energy. That weed last night. The weed last night is still firing. You want some of it? Nope. Okay, right here. I'm good.

I went to a different planet. That was very interesting. I'm not a seasoned weeder. You see that HBO special about Iran where you can die if you're gay, but if you have a sex change, they'll let you live? Yes. No, I didn't see that one. I love my stuff.

So all these gay dudes are having sex. Because you're supposed to take advantage of science. Science has never been something that Islam had a problem with. You can take advantage of it. Yeah, but what did you say? They're trying to kill you if you're gay. Oh, that's a problem. That's not very scientific.

That's insane. Yeah, there's no science behind that. That's what lab coaches do. By the way, by the way. There's a bunch of transvestites that just wish they were, like, dudes. Damn, they didn't want to be chicks. They didn't want to be. It's just a shitload of Caitlyn Jenners over there.

Yeah, and then, like. But they're not pretty. It was either that or die. No, it's actually, though. Or jail or something. Believe it or not, believe it or not, they say that, but there are gay communities in Iran and places, and like anywhere else, they're kind of left alone. Hey, look at what's going on here. There's a commercial

that's going on while the fight is going on. For a movie, that's weird. They just showed a commercial in the corner. A movie preview. Like full videos and shit. You know how much they had to pay for that shit? Is that a new thing? I've never seen that. That's some crazy VIP treatment. I am not appreciating that.

Yeah, I'm not appreciating that. Especially these two freaking world-class fighters. Yeah, this is not just words like Monday Night Football. They should have the stock market on the bottom. We should just show naked chicks. Just show shit that's going to distract you. Dude, what if the ring girls did like a buy Reebok?

Just like on the corners. I love chicks dancing on a pole. Yeah, just a girl naked throwing a monster energy drink down her pussy. Yeah. Or just, you know. Oh, oh, oh, Jesus. These guys are no joke. You're wearing your pants on the stand of comedy on the side.

You remember that Bill Hicks bit about that? Bill Hicks got a great joke about advertisers, if they could do what they wanted to do, you'd just see a girl and you'd focus on her He would go down to her pussy lips. You'd see she's spreading her fingers Spreading her pussy and looking you in the eye, and it just says drink coke It's so true if they could do it that would totally work. I mean we turn a lot of women off from coke Think if you could do whatever you want. There's no freaking repercussions how different society would be. That's what you're doing right now on the internet, son. This is true. That's why Fox is panicking.

They can't control Big Brown. Is it me? What do we do? Nobody can control the kid in Big Brown. They might pull some JFK shit and the UFC might just snipe me out in my Porsche. Oh! Damn! Straight left. Beautiful timing by out. Listen, my Porsche. Oh! Damn! Straight left. Beautiful timing by Johnson.

Damn, I missed it. That was pretty. Oh, man. He's teeing them up. Dude, Michael Johnson's on fire! Dude, he's been sparkling. Damn! Damn, he looks fast, too. Holy shit!

He's a fucking animal right now. Now, Dario probably feels like there's something going on here. It's like he's hypnotized. Oh, caught him. Caught him with a nice... He did catch him. For sure makes up the takedowns, though, huh? Don't be so flat-footed.

Yeah, but he thinks he just wants to stand with him. Ooh. Yikes, he's countering. I think he's so fucking confident in his stand-up from sparring with Holtzkin. Look at this, man. I think as good an athlete as he is, he's picking it up at a very high rate. I agree.

He's got really good training down there in Florida. Great camp. Henry Hooft is so fucking clever as a kickboxing coach. Where is he? Down in Florida. Top of the Black Zillion. Boca Raton, yeah. Will he ever throw a wheel kick?

One day. I'm sure he will. We might see that shit. When he trains with me, he will. Edson Barboza, holy shit, right? Edson Barboza, holy goddamn shit. We haven't done him. Oh, that's great, but you know what's the scariest thing?

His switch kick is so fast. Remember how fast that was? It was like whack. The guy he fought, that Felder guy? We were cage side. I couldn't even see it. That Felder guy was good. Holy shit.

Felder is really good. That's a motion. Serious wheel kick, serious karate, traditional martial arts shit. Like with death behind it. Like super kung fu theater death. He's tough as shit. When he did that switch kick and he caught him in the ribs, his side was lobster red.

I mean, it was like a hematoma almost. Didn't miss a beat. He was protecting it a little bit, but overall. He took a lot of shots to the legs that cut down his movement. You can see, especially in the third round. He was very labored in his movement because of those kicks. It slowed him down, but he is tough as fuck. Dude, Edson Barboza, holy motherfucking shit.

That guy hits hard. Muscles on muscles. He might be the best kicker in the UFC. Dude, he's scary. Might be the best kicker. That's the last guy you want to fight. He's the only guy that ever stopped two guys with leg kicks. He's stopped two different guys. Anthony Hardung said that...

What's that? Pettis is up there. Pettis is up there. Pettis is up there, but... Edson's scarier. Anthony Hardung said that Donald Cerrone has the best kicks, he thinks. That's a bad motherfucker, too. Top bad motherfucker, for sure.

Yes, he is. Donald's as game as anybody that's ever lived. He's amazing. Game as anybody. He's so much fun to hang around with, too. Yes, he is. Donald's as game as anybody that's ever lived. He's amazing. Game as anybody. He's so much fun to hang around with, too. I love that guy. I love him.

Dude, this is a good fight. But Darius, you gotta figure out how to get this fucking fight to the ground. Yeah, it's hard. Because right now... Oh, look at this.

Darius is coming after him now, though. Press him. Darius is not stupid. It's just that I feel like the level of sparring that Johnson's been getting is such a high level.

It's going to be hard to take that dude down, man. I mean, you're going to take him. It's going to be impossible. Yeah, he's so quick. His sprawl's so good. I mean, he wrestled in college, right? Yep.

Yeah. He's a good wrestler, too. When he first started fighting in the UFC in The Ultimate Fighter, he showed a lot of wrestling talent. Darius is bigger than him. He looks bigger, but it doesn't seem to matter at this point. Well, he's a long guy, you know, but Johnson's thick. Oh, damn.

Darius is no joke. These guys are... Johnson has, like, a nice snap to his punches, too. Yes, he does. Like, he's, like, he's popping it at the end, you know? Speed, man. And this is the second round is when you start to see these guys slow down quite a bit, you know It's a real good footwork John fuck yeah

Looking like TJ Dillashaw Except he's not switching to nobody. Oh But don't use tried for the fucking knee there, dude. Nobody looks as good as TJ right now God damn TJ look good in that henna. I out fight. Him and Dominic next or what? It depends on where Dominic is at health-wise. That's the fight, though. That's the money fight. That's the fight.

But he obviously doesn't want to come back too soon. I mean, he's already done that a couple of times. Twice. Blowing himself out. Fucked his knees up. And it's just the whole thing. It's just such a disaster over and over and over again. I think TJ even said he'd go up to 45 and fight Connor. Yes. He did yeah, but the phenomenal fight

He's a Dillashaw That's what he wants if Dominic can't go he wants Connor oh Dude TJ would be a lot smaller He's a lot smaller little dude,, though. He's a lot smaller. He is a lot smaller. He's a little dude. But you know what? His wrestling's really good. Good luck hitting him.

And his jiu-jitsu. His jiu-jitsu's very good. I remember back in the day when he was first coming up, TJ, I'm like, that little wrestler, he understands jiu-jitsu right away. He's young in this game, and a lot of wrestlers, it takes them years to figure out, you've got to fall in love with jiu-jitsu. That's such a high stakes gamble though

to fight a guy like Conor cause Conor can knock him out like Conor's not and Conor's not slow he's definitely not slow with his hands you know so like

when TJ fought Barau you know Barau the first fight he got caught off guard and TJ cracked him nobody expected TJ to be as good as he was

and after that first round that dude was on autopilot, and TJ just beat the brakes off of him, right? Like a punching bag. Just beat his ass. But the second fight, you could see Barau was not the same human being. He's not the same human being. He's just not.

What do you think that is, Joe? Shell-shocked. It could have been extreme loss of confidence. You also have to deal with post-concussion syndrome, because that first fight, he took a fucking beating. He took a beating from the first round to the fifth round. And especially that last combination

when TJ head kicked him. Come on, son. That's terrifying, terrifying shit. So you got that. You got the recovery of that. We all know someone who's had a fight like that and never really totally recovered. So you got that. And then you got confidence loss because he was this monster who hadn't been beaten in nine years and just was running through people finding a way to beat everybody how long

does it take to get over like your last fight you retire you got beat down you got your title taken you never come back you're obviously you're going to be sad from that like like the next day and then two days later and a week later. When does it get to a point where that fight doesn't matter, the fact that you're a boxing icon or an MMA legend, you're beyond that last fight? Like how long does that take? You're asking the wrong guy.

It's different for everybody. I'm not a legend. You know, some guys, look, no guy has ever gone from the ultimate fighter and become as good as TJ did as quick as TJ Did TJ is like a real freak and he's also a sponge and he's like he's a super nice guy with even though TJ is like Ultra competitive right obviously he's wicked competitive. He's he doesn't have a big ego. It's weird He's like super hard he works hard. He doesn't have any he doesn't have any road bumps You know what's a personality road bumps think some fighters any road bumps. You know what's a bummer? It's like personality road bumps that some fighters have to keep them from learning. You know what's a bummer, Joe?

What? It's kind of the, I almost want to say the trash talk between Alpha Male and Dwayne now. Like Chad Mendes goes, we fucking made Dwayne Ludwig. Well, it's true. It's true. No, they didn't. No, listen, they did. He needed disciples, and he found super athletes that were willing to listen,

and it showed what he's capable of. But also what made him is how good he is at it. He's undeniably one of the best striking coaches I've ever seen. For sure. And his relationship with TJ and the progress TJ's made cement that. But you also consider Rafael Cordero. You consider Duke Rufus. You consider Firas Zahabi.

You consider Mike Winklejohn. There's a lot of really good striking coaches out there. I agree with that. A lot of it is dependent upon their students. I don't think you can say they made them. But Dwayne found a great stable of studs. That's like every athlete or every trainer's dream. It's a collaborative marriage.

It's a symbiotic relationship. athlete or every trainer's dream. It's a collaborative marriage. It's a symbiotic relationship. Nobody should be taking credit for anybody else's. It just bummed me out. I love Team Alpha Male. Dwayne and I are very close.

I'm very close with both of those guys. I'm very close with TJ. I'm very close with Danny. I love Chad Mendez. I love Uriah. I love Dwayne too. On it, this is not really talked about very much, but we had one point in time thought about buying their gym. Alpha, yeah.

We thought about setting up an Onnit gym through them, and we had considered doing it, but we knew that they were having some disputes with Dwayne, and they were trying to sort it all out. But we were talking about going into some sort of an Onnit partnership with them, because we sponsor a lot of those guys. Well, now Campman even left the gym. And we want to start making some more on-it gyms and having an on-it MMA gym was an idea that we bounced around a few times.

And I think that when you have a stable full of guys like Chad Mendez, Lance Palmer, TJ Dillashaw, Joey Garbrandt, Joey Barnavt, Danny Castillo, Ryan motherfucking Faber. I mean, Jesus, goddamn Christ. These guys are savages. And if you get a guy who's as nuts as Dwayne is, and Dwayne is fucking nuts about training and about the fanatical approach that he takes to training guys, he's obsessed. He's like a true mad scientist. I mean, the day T.J. fought Burrell, he and I had lunch. And there was like five or six other people.

They were all laughing, joking around. Can't wait for the fight today. And Dwayne is sitting there. He's like, what is he going to do? He's going to fake to the left and the whole deal about when you see Barau does his flat footed. He's obsessed. Flat footed guy is never going to be a guy like TJ. He goes, because he's going to set up these angles.

And he went out and did exactly what Dwayne said he was going to do. But Dwayne had this maniacal, fanatical thing. It's like TJ's tapestry. He's like a painter. Exactly. He's an artist. You need that, though. I don't think those guys would be where they're at without a guy like Dwayne.

Exactly. And Dwayne wouldn't be where he's at without them. But Danny, like Danny Castillo has gotten a lot better. You see Danny Castillo in his last fight. He's throwing all these head kicks. Yeah. His footwork looks amazing. Yeah.

And he's learning from TJ and he's learning from Dwayne, too. It's like- Because he's in Denver with those boys. Exactly. But that's the point. It was too bad those guys couldn't work it out. Because that is literally the dream relationship. They had a mediary. Even Campman's

out now. Martin Campman's leaving. Well, he might just be tired of training people. No, he said his family doesn't want to be in Sacramento anymore. That's what he said in the interview. So now they're looking for other coaches. They asked, I think, Kenny Florian. Kenny Florian considered it, apparently. He considered it, but I don't think he can do it because of all his obligations here with media and stuff like that. But Kenny would be great.

He would be great. Kenny's a phenomenal coach. He's smart as fuck. Very smart. These guys are actually taking shots to the head, and they don't seem to be phased at all. I don't know what's going on. Sometimes you watch a fight, and you watch these guys. They take a lot of Tylenol, dude.

That's the deal. Martin Katzner was the head MMA he replaced oh he replaced going he's leaving out to campman's a really tech whoo nice upper Michael Johnson it has been hit four times and he just keeps coming forward this is a great fight I guess we'll have to go over watching it we're not talking straight it's a good fight that's the problem We'll have to go over and watch it. We're not talking shit. It's a good fight. That's the problem with these goddamn fight companions. We miss amazing fights because the company's too good. Too fun, though, man. By the way, Darius right now is winning this round.

He's tagged him five times. He's tagged Michael Johnson five times. Might be the only round, though. Yeah, well, look at this. He keeps hitting him. But it's really not fair. It looks like Johnson has slowed down a bit, man. Yeah, Johnson slowed down. He keeps hitting him. But it's really not fair. It looks like Johnson has slowed down a little bit, man. Yeah, Johnson slowed down.

Now's your chance. You know, who knows how hard a time he has making 155. A lot of these dudes have a hard time making that weight, man. Yeah. You see Diego Sanchez dropped to 145. He's crazy. How crazy is that? So crazy.

Fighting Ricardo Llamas, right? He's so crazy. Mexico. So crazy. Phenomenal fight. Now let me ask you this. What do you think about rockhole dropping down to 185 now with a lack of ivs when they take away your iv

that starts in october right right when are they fighting why did i think they were fighting after that i thought they were fighting in september am i wrong you might be right no i don't think oh oh beautiful left hand where is it in September where is it taking place you're right because you're right because in Jamie will find out for us either way but either way Rockhold's a fucking huge huge 85er he's big and those IVs I mean they gotta have a man but do they because Joe Silva was trying to tell me that there's doctors that say it's actually more effective to orally rehydrate. You just have to do it correctly. Come on.

It's not true? Of course Joe Silva says that. I don't think that's true, Joe, because in hospitals, they rehydrate you with IVs, right? Right. Yes. But a lot of times, maybe they're lazy. They have to regulate and ensure that you get the right amount of fluid at the right time. And maybe there's a method to rehydrate.

Well, a lot of time when you just drink, obviously you'd have to talk to a scientist, but when you drink just water to rehydrate, it strips the electrolytes, and it actually doesn't rehydrate you. If you use the IV, it goes straight to the bloodstream to rejuvenate those muscles. That's what I would have thought, but I'm obviously not medically qualified to talk about it. But one thing that Jeff Nowitzki told me is that they do it because people can use IVs to mask steroids. Who's Jeff? Jeff Nowitzki is the guy that busted

Lance Armstrong. He's the guy that's the new USA drug dude. He works for the UFC? So Joe Silver, the guy who works for the UFC, said IVs are bad. He didn't say IVs are bad. But he said you should use... But he didn't say that it was more effective.

He doesn't engage... Now are bad. But he said you should use. But he didn't say that it was more effective. He doesn't engage. The Novitsky guy is very impressive. He doesn't engage in propaganda. He doesn't engage in hyperbole. He's very logical and very calm, very fair. I had a really good conversation with him, and he's doing the podcast soon. That's going to be amazing. I need to ask him a million questions about how these guys do things and how the cyclists got away with it.

And we were talking about the Tour de France. That was a good fight. We were talking about the Tour de France and how this guy who is at the leader, he goes, he's got to be doing something. He's breaking all the records that the juicers were making. He's like, this guy is setting new record times. And somehow or another, he's testing clean. And he said, you know, who knows what they're doing but the thing is they have they have steroids that they're developing testosterone that's not based on plants okay because

testosterone now though somehow or another they grow it with yams wow yeah it's crazy since it but and there's somehow or another they can test and they can find that it's non non endogenous that it's exogenous as this is the word they can't do that if it's animal stuff so they're figuring out a way to get testosterone from animals they're getting animal testosterone they're injecting it because it mimics human bioidentical okay it's bioidentical and they can't figure out how to test it so if guys are doing that then it doesn't even look like they're

on testosterone podcast can be so dope dude he's telling me crazy shit tell me crazy shit about gene doping about the next level Well, you know I talked about this with Rhonda Patrick on the podcast recently the next level it will by the way You guys have to have her on yeah, we're gonna. She'll blow your fucking I listen to her on your task her This is what you do because for the fighter and the kid ask her to just study Steroids and what steroids you could hide and what steroids would do what and why you would take certain things, what the benefits of it.

She'll look through the research on it and come on your show and blow your fucking mind. Drop some knowledge. Really? She's the smartest person I've ever talked to. Wow. Ever. Yeah, when I get her on the podcast, I just wind her up. I just give her a subject.

The last thing was cold shock proteins. She was talking about cryotherapy and the positive results of sauna and that sauna people had 40% less mortality across the board 40% reduction in mortality whether it's cancer drugs the heart attacks saying sauna for longevity for health there's something about heating your body up to 170 degrees you put it in that 170 degree environment for as long as you can take it. What if it kills pathogens or something? No. It creates heat shock proteins. She went into this big thing

about heat shock proteins that are only created, heat shock proteins and from cryotherapy, very similar, cold shock proteins. Dude, you gotta listen to the podcast, because it's literally, it's not even me. It's dope. I would lob a ball at her, and then I'd sit back for 20 minutes while she just goes off.

And you've got to take notes. You've got to write shit down. Damn. She's a monster. So getting your body at a certain temperature. Yes. You release. Triggers a compensatory response.

And that compensatory response is called either heat shock proteins or cold shock proteins. And neoprenephrine, which is something that has an effect on mood. And how was it? What's the word? Neoprenephrine, which is something that has an effect on mood. And neoprenephrine? Wait, what happened here? What the fuck is that word that she used? But anyway, whatever it is, it regulates mood. Darius one.

Darius one. Wow. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, Joe. Sorry, brother. No worries. Look at Michael Johnson's furious, man. I think Johnson definitely won that fight, by the way. I do not think I was paying attention.

I was just enough. You owe me dinner, though. Not that you haven't paid for a hundred dinners. I felt like Darius was actually connecting more there. Nor Epinephrine. Nor Epinephrine. Thank you very much, sir. That fight hasn't been booked yet, either.

Oh, it hasn't? Which fight? Which one? Weidman. Really? Rockhold? They haven't had a venue yet? I saw a rumor that maybe December 5th, but not officially yet.

Oh, you know what? I bet it's the big one. Because they're trying to do a big one December 5th. That's what Knucklehead should have kept her mouth shut about the UFC calling her out. Oh, in Dallas? Yeah, that's what they're saying. They're saying, listen, can you make 135? If you can make 135 in Dallas December 5th, let's do this. But she's going to have to get on the scale before they ever make a deal.

She's going to have to make that weight before. Ronda's doing movies and shit, so it has to work for Ronda's schedule. Well, it's going to have to get on the scale before they ever make a deal. She's going to have to make that wait before Ronda's doing movies and shit, so it has to work for Ronda's schedule. Well, it's going to be December 5th if it's the big fight. Sounds like Rocky II. This is what they're trying to do. December 5th, they're trying to do a gigantic arena in Dallas, that huge football arena.

Cowboy Stadium. And if they do Cowboy Stadium, it is going to be the motherfucker of all motherfucker cards, dude. It's going to be like McGregor versus Aldo, Ronda versus Cyborg. And if they sign Fedor versus Verdum, and that's also on the card. Are you kidding me? I also saw Overeem versus. Holy shit. Overeem will be versus Dos Santos the next time they fight.

Most likely. You think they'll ever do a Super Bowl card like that? That would be the big card. That would be the card. They're supposed to, yeah. And then Joanna versus Claudia. Once a year, right? You think they'll ever do a Super Bowl card like that? That would be the big card. That would be the card. They're supposed to, yeah. And then Joanna versus Claudia. Once a year, right?

Once a year you have a super card. Once a goddamn year, give me a super card. Goddamn it. Well, they're apparently planning UFC 200 for next July. It's Rafael right there, right? They're already advertising. Yeah, there's Rafael Cordero. Great guy. Awesome coach.

Just a beautiful dude. Always liked that beautiful smile. And just a warm, friendly guy. Just truly loves his students. Damn. Great guy. So they're already showing these teaser trailers for UFC 200, which is next July. So they're planning it.

There's a fucking stud. Matt Hughes and Robbie Lawler. Damn, Robbie Lawler healed up like Wolverine. Yeah, he did. Yes, he did. He healed up like Wolverine. You can't even tell that he was split open. Wolverine, man.

You can't even tell he was split open. That's awesome. Too rough looking. Yeah, UFC 200 is going to be fucked. How about they're going to do Robbie Lawler versus Carlos Condit? Brian Callen was calling for that fight. I can't wait for that fight. How about this fight right here?

Max versus Oliveira. Max Holloway is a bad motherfucker, dude. What's the decision with Connor? This is coming up. I called this one today, too. I did one of those countdown shows for this. Max Holloway impressed the fuck out of me versus Cubs. Where do you do those countdown shows, Joe? Here?

I do them near this area. What are those white things? California. I didn't know if you had to go to a UFC studio or what. No, we go to a sound studio. Gotcha. Yeah, it's just a place. There's a hundred of those fucking places.

Yeah, you just said it. Have you ever done those? I do one for the video game, too, man. I've been doing the video game again. I did one for them for the top five greatest fights of all time, and I went to Unbreakable Gym. Damn. Oh, that's cool. Eric Silva, Rick Story, holy shit.

That's a great fight. Max Holloway and Charles Oliveira. Oh, that's cool. Eric Silva, Rick Story. Holy shit. That's a great fight. Max Holloway and Charles Oliveira. I fucking love that fight. Cote Berkman's a fun fight. Hey, boys, what date is that? August 23rd. Are we doing this or what? It's a Sunday.

That sounds like a good day to do a fucking fight companion. I'm here. Dude, who's here? Brandon? Hell yeah, I'm here. I'm here. We're going to Onnit next week, but that's it. Let's do it.

Then we go to Costa Rica next week. Yeah, it's a Sunday. I like it. I'm here. Are going to Onnit next week, but that's it Then we go to Costa Rica next week Yeah, it's a Sunday, I like it I'm here, I'm here on the 23rd You sure you're not doing it? I'm 100% not doing it That's a fight night That's Brian Stan Dude, it's gonna come to, one day, this is gonna be too fun

It's gonna be like, Fight Companion It's gonna be more fun than actually being there At the fights Dude, when I text you guys All right, especially I take you like bro fight campaign for this you're like I'm out of town I'm like I know but it makes sad when you said the other day and I said fuck yeah, and you said fuck Yeah, so I got all jazzed Makes my week. He texted me fight companion. I go fuck. Yeah shit

The stars are lining and then Callan Callan texts me. We're all texting each other. It's better that way. The gang is back. The gang is back, ladies and gentlemen. When we did the companion without you, it felt weird, man. Well, how about Bobby Lee's girlfriend stole the show? I know. She dropped some knowledge and she was hot as shit.

She knew a lot more than I did. Bobby Lee shut down. Bobby Lee shut down. Meanwhile, she was- Oh, by the way, if you tell me Bobby, she was on the Filipino national swimming team. Exactly what I'm saying. I was like, huh? That's what you're saying. If you have a woman as dominant

as Rhonda, a man, there's going to have to be some sort of an odd balance, right? Yeah, has to. If you have a man as submissive and small as Bobby Lee, you're going to have to have a woman that takes up the slack. I guess so. Or Rhonda needs needs a fucking Thor. Just this badass motherfucker.

I think that's more like it. She's not going to go for a real passenger. Yeah, Todd Duffy that's been in a lab. Yeah, artificially created. She's so rich, she's going to have some dude artificially created. But you were one of the ones that said that Todd Duffy's insanely

physically talented, right? Might be the best I've ever seen in the gym. that said that Todd Duffy is insanely physically talented, right? One of the best. Might be the best I've ever seen in the gym. Really? I've seen Todd Duffy move. Mentally, it's just he struggles. He's lost a few times by knockout, and that's not even mental. That's heavyweight.

He just got cracked. But if you see him move, he's got an extremely impressive way of movement. This is hard to describe, but when you see guys fight so many times, you see like thousands and thousands of fights up close. One of the things you notice is if someone's sloppy in their movement, if they're sloppy in their movement, that they're probably sloppy in their thinking.

They're probably sloppy somehow in their preparation. And it might just be a little bit, but that little bit might be they get, they pull back and then they relax and then they pull back, and then they relax, and then they get back up, and then they go in. The way they set up. Whereas some guys have this super efficient movement, like Anderson. Like Anderson in his prime had this super efficient movement.

There was no slop in anything he did. So when Anderson moved in on you, and when he uncork shit on you, it was just shoom. It was just coming in out of nowhere, which was half the magic of what he did. Is that there was fractions and milliseconds of things that were missing in his movement that were available in other people's things. That you couldn't read. You couldn't read.

And he would do shit, like, he was setting you up for stuff and you didn't know. Like when he front kicked Vitor in the face, he was setting him up for it. He just saw Vitor's movement. He saw how it was going in. Sling! And it comes out of nowhere. And next thing you know, it's the ball of the foot to your chin. There's some guys don't recognize that unless you train that way, unless you have this very,

very like miserly approach to movement. Like all that extra shit, all this sloppy where the hand drops or it comes up. Everything has to be locked. Like, all that extra shit, all the sloppy, where the hand drops, where it comes up, everything has to be locked. Like, you watch Joanna, Joanna Janjic, when she moves in, that bitch is, like,

locked down and lethal. Everything is super efficient. Like, when you see her moving in, everything is just locked into position. And when the techniques come off, it's like, ah, ah, ah.

Todd's that way. Duffy's that way in training. That's what I'm saying this is why I think he has a uh the mental game's not there for him because when I saw him fight Frank Mayer I'm like what the fuck are you doing why are you running with your chin down throwing bombs he got excited if well but that's everything but that's everything you're right but he's he's so I'm telling you man in the gym and I he went to, and I asked Daniel Cormier, I'm like, how good's Todd Duffy? He goes, bro, that guy's a fucking monster.

I went, right? But for whatever reason, it's just not translating. And this is a good way to tell if a guy's mentally strong. And I'm not saying Todd's not, but there's an issue. Look at the guys he's beat, and then look when he fights someone who doesn't back down, who's not scared of your body, who's not scared of your previous records. When you fight a vet who's like, what? You did what?

I'm not going to get knocked down by a single punch. That's when you can tell a guy's record. In his defense, he's had a long time off the UFC. He went through a lot of health issues, and I think he's getting back on track, and I think he doesn't have a lot of recent experience. I mean, he's got that one Anthony Hamilton fight where he knocked him out. He looked spectacular in that fight. And how many other fights does he have since he's been back?

I think that's it. Since he's back, it's just that one. Yeah, that was his first fight back. But then before that. But the lack of experience. Like, his recent experience. For sure. But think about, so he's, you know, you look at the guy he's beat.

You know, he really hasn't beat any big names. Right. But he hasn't fought any big names either. He's only fought Alistair when he was in, fought Alistair when Alistair was on moon juice. Yeah, he fought Uber. Hot moon juice. Hot moon juice.

They were pulling lava out of the fucking core of the moon. Right out of its thyroid. And stuffing it right into his fucking muscle tissue. Moon juice. Dude, have you ever seen that fight? It's like Silver Surfer, bro. He wasn't even a real human. No.

He wasn't like Silver Surfer. He was just running over Todd Duck. There's a video of you. He's like, don't do it. There's a video of you looking at him as he's weighing in, and you're just like, huh? That was when he fought Brock. Oh, my God.

He weighed 265. That was before. All they did was urine test back then. That's the only fight I've ever seen where when he weighed in, I thought, we're all fucked. Yeah, we're all fucked. Watch out. I should just retire right now. We're fucked.

If that guy, if you gave Alistair Overeem the whole medicine cabinet and said, have at it, sir, you would have the most terrifying guy of all time. He would never lose. Yeah, at his best when he was whatever he was on. If he was on anything or not. We know he got caught, but who knows if that was one time. I'm just trying to be nice. I'm trying to be nice.

I like the guy. But my point being, when he was that guy, when he fought in K-1 like that, when he was just jacked to the fucking tits. They had strict testing. He was a monster. Yeah, they made sure you were on terror steroids.its? They had strict testing. He was a monster. Yeah, they made sure you were on steroids. They test you. Not enough.

He was a monster. He's a monster. I think that him at that level, when he's at that level, would be super hard to beat. But it's like when you get used to competing like that, and you get used to being at that level, and then you're no longer anymore, then the mental game kicks in. For sure. Him and Dos Santos, look at him. Look at him.

Oh my God. He won first in Mr. Olympia. and Dos Santos, look at him. Oh, my God. He won first in Mr. Olympia. Look at that. Look at that photo. That's so insane. What a body. Look at his arms. You know, he used to fight at 205, man.

I know. And he was thin. I don't know why I didn't say at 205, but I remember. Look at that fucking face. I remember watching. The crazy thing is he said it was from horse meat. Horse meat. And some people bought it. Some people. I was like, what? And then you think, like, it was from horse meat. Horse meat. And some people bought it.

Some people. I was like, what? And then you think, like, maybe it is horse meat. He's in Amsterdam. He makes me look like Kermit the Frog. But you know what's really crazy? He's not even pumped up there. So weird.

See, that's a guy who's just flaccid and flexing. Like, when you lift weights, it's a thing. Like, if you see a photo of someone and they look giant, they might have just lift weights. And their arms literally get, literally get twice as big. You get pumped up. He's just chilling there. He's just relaxing in his underwear on a scale in front of millions. Lesnar got kicked right in the fucking liver and was like, oh, fuck this.

He got kicked right where he had surgery. I mean, that's crazy. On purpose. The guy had 12 inches of his colon removed and then he fought a year later. We got 500 on this, right? We got 500. Man, right? We got 500. You think he's going to lose in his hometown? No, I think OSB's going to win,

but just for the fun of this show, I got Glover taking it. For the record, I think OSB's going to win. That's a good bet. I want to annul that bet. If that's how you feel. I'm taking Glover. I think Glover's going to win by submission. And it's going to really hurt your feelings. Glover's going to block and knock him out. Glover's going to win by submission. And it's going to really hurt your feelings.

Glover's going to block and knock him out. Glover's going to knock him out? I don't want to hurt you, brother. I think Glover is a very composed fighter. When Robinson Prew knocked out Pat Cummins, he woke my eyes up. Me too. He knocked out...

That was a nice uppercut on his back foot. I think he's talented as fuck. I've always loved him. He's explosive as fuck. But what he's doing is he's getting better. He's getting more and more skillful. And when he knocked out Shogun with that beautiful step-aside left hook. Confidence is a big thing for us.

He likes twisters, too. That was spectacular. He's good at the twister. He's got all these victories by knockout. And he's like, the twister's coming. I'm telling you. The Abu Dhabi guy. You know what?

I think he's the only guy or maybe the second guy in history in MMA. He got someone in the truck and got him in a calf crank. He's always in the truck. You see those scars on his arm? It's the Omega. Right, right. They burn him. That would make you, like, wouldn't that create some texture?

Wouldn't that make it, like, difficult for you to slip out of stuff? Depends. If you decide, if someone was so gangster they just got a scar that all their arms from their wrist all the way up to the top of their shoulder so they have a more textured skin so guys couldn't get out of chokes so you couldn't slip out of guillotine some dedication bro if someone found out if someone found out that there was a way of creating scarification that made a textured surface. And scars don't sweat the same way regular skin sweats. They burn their skin like Darkman.

Somebody did that, a long process, and created a super textured skin all over their arm. Like Freddy Krueger, bro. There's a tribe. Like Freddy Krueger. There's actually a tribe in Africa that does that. Well, think about it. They do a lot of scarification.

In Africa, they scar their backs, and sometimes they die and go into shock and all that, but they'll scar their entire back to look like a crocodile. Yeah, I've seen that. Crocodile. I think OSP's by far the better athlete. I just think Glover has more experience. And, dude, when I trained with Glover, his wrestling and grappling, he hasn't showed it much, but he's a fucking nightmare.

Well, his top game is heavy. When he got Kyle Kingsborough in the ground, you could see, like, ooh, that's a heavy top game. His arm triangle is nasty. He wears him like a sweater, Joe. He had a lot of hype coming in. A ton of hype because of Chuck Liddell. Right, but also you've got to think those six years he was out of the UFC were six years of his prime. When he was Chuck Liddell's main training partner, everybody was high on him.

He stopped. He was the first guy to, what the fuck is his name? Looks like the Predator, the crazy dreadlocks. Sokajew. Sokajew. He was the first guy to knock out Sokajew. He knocked out Sokajew in the WEC, or was it WEC? Or Palace?

Which fight was it? It was WEC. WEC. WEC. Yep. And that was the first time I saw Gloverver fight. I was like whoa this dude is gangster There's so much hype on from everyone though. Yeah, but you got to think man. He's like what 37 38 now How old is he any 36 Jamie?

Find out how old the Glover is oh man reality is fucking man The reality is if he's not doing anything if you get to this Fucking man. The reality is, if he's not doing anything, if you get to this stage in boxing, if you get to this stage, like back in the day when no one was taking anything, right? Like the Marvin Hagler era. Yeah. We assumed nobody was taking anything. Let's hope not.

Well, Guy got to be like 36. It's the fucking end of the road. Yeah. Over, over. All dogs go to heaven. Yeah, it's over. All dogs go to heaven. The line of the night.

It's over, my man. It's true. All dogs go to heaven. It is. What was the line of the night earlier?'s over, my man. It's true. All dogs go down. It is. What was the line of the night earlier? Kermit the Frog? Yeah. There was another one before that, too.

Angel piss? Angel piss. No, but there was another one, too. I don't even know, man. Why don't you just stand up? Come on. Dude, you could do it. Believe me.

If you could do it on this podcast, you could do it on stage. You would love it. I agree. You 100% could do it. Listen, what you should do- I just want to do it and hang out with you guys at night. Anytime.

You can always do that. I just want a reason to hang out at night. I don't know why you wouldn't. I don't know why you don't start writing and just, we'll go over some stuff

and just get up and have fun with us. Here's what you do. This is your move. Ready? You go on the road with Brian and Brian brings you up

and you do like five minutes. That's it. You tell a story for five minutes and even if it bombs, you laugh and then you bring him back and then, you know, everything's groovy because there's no expectation You tell a story for five minutes. Really? And even if it bombs, you laugh and then you bring him back and then, you know, everything's groovy. Yes.

There's no expectation. You'd be sick. Yeah. I mean, I'm not scared. I just don't want to disrespect the... No, no. I don't want to disrespect. That's like saying I don't want to try Jiu-Jitsu because I don't want to disrespect Jiu-Jitsu. Right. Exactly. It's like everything else. Everybody sucks at first. Yeah. And you'll be funny because you're funny already. I agree. Dude, you could do it. 100%.

I'm down with you guys as hell. Right now, there's keyboard warriors all across America going, You guys are fucking ridiculous. He's not funny. He's a fucking meathead. They're screaming. Everybody's not funny. You're not funny either.

Fuck you. Fuck him. Stop trying to get everybody to do comedy. Stop telling everybody to do a podcast. It worked. Look, the podcast worked. It did, man. The podcast is stellar. Listen, man. Goddamn, the biggest thing both of you guys do comedy. Stop telling everybody to do a podcast. It worked. Look, the podcast worked. It did, man. The podcast is stellar.

Listen, man. Goddamn, the biggest thing both of you guys do now. We're going to start doing it. I'm going to get you out for five minutes. You're going to come on the road with me. I'm down, man. You'll be sick. Fuck yeah, man.

You can do it easy. By the way, you guys never- Just start by telling a story. Giant, crazy live show if you did that. It'd be nuts. He's 35. There we go. We got our live show, by the way, October 1st.

Brea Improv. Tickets just went on sale. First live show. Just the way, October 1st. Brea Improv. Tickets just went on sale. First live show. Just went on sale. Holy shit. I'm going to be at the Cot Theater September 4th in Vegas with Ian Edwards and Greg Fitzsimmons. We just had Greg on. He's a funny dude.

He said you guys were roommates. And then, of course, I went, you ever seen his dick? And he went, no, I didn't. I went, you were roommates? You ever checked out his dick? Yeah. I hear Greg's got a piece on him, though. That's the rumor.

He doesn't have a little dick. It's not little. Well, no. He said it's like award winning. Well, he's a little guy. You know what? That'll throw you off. Yeah.

If that was on Ben Rothwell, it wouldn't look so big. There you go. Are you going to be here next week? Ben looks like he has a small dick. I'm just saying. He's huge. He's so big. He gave me a hug the other day.

I was like, Jesus. He's so big. So big. And hairy. What was it like the other day. I was like, Jesus. He's so big. So big. And hairy. What was it like fighting that dude? I was so cocky, I thought I was going to smoke him. I thought he was spinning elbow and landed. And I never trained before.

I saw John do it. I was like, oh, I'm going to do that again. Rothwell. Never trained it. Landed. Wobbled him. Guess what? The last words before I went in the cage, my coaches know me.

They go, listen, you have better cardio, better technique. Let's drag this in the third round. I went, yeah, cool. Went in, spin an elbow, nuts. Knocked out. Damn it. I like this. Nuts. Guy. Oh my god. It's a bad

idea. Here we go. Ovin St. Prue, fighting out of Knoxville, Tennessee, bitches. I think it's crazy that Bruce Buffer does all this amazing, passionate shit and they never show it on TV. I love watching it. It's one of my favorite things to watch. They never show it. They always cut to

a crowd shot. Bruce Buffer might be one of my favorite Americans. Tara Swift said it best. Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. That's a nice song. It's true. Are those the lyrics? Yeah. Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. That's a nice song. It's true. Are those the lyrics? Yeah.

Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate. People don't know this, but Bruce Buffer's going off right now. Listen to it. Can we hear it, Jamie? He's going off. We just don't see him. It's basically over. Here, pump it up. Here we go.

Here we go. Keep it cranking. Dude, he jumps and spins right here. Watch. Look at him. Yeah, they pulled back on him. They pulled back. You got a little bit.

Why? Why hate on Bruce? I don't know. They're going to do the best ref in the game right there. Yeah. Give him the reach around right there. Big boys. Got a set of tits on him.

These are some big fighters right here. I like that Big John's doing this. Me too, man. Guaranteed a good referee here. there big boys got a set of tits on them these are some big fighters right here i like the big john's doing this me too man guaranteed a good referee here i wonder why bruce doesn't just give big john the mic so you take the mic hey hear me out here hear me out here why not what osp right uh usa glover brazil why not have the trunks if you're gonna do them like that they have this name but to make it different why not have the trunks, if you're going to do them like that, they have this name, but to make it different, why not have the trunks yellow and green and black and then have OSP's USA colors? Not a bad idea.

Bro, his wrestling is fucking good. OSP early is tough to take down, trust me. Super tough to take down. As the rounds go on, it gets easier and easier. Glover took him right down. OSP off his back, no bueno. Glover just took him right down, right in the half guard. That was impressive. I don. Glover took him right down. OSP off his back. No bueno. Holy shit. No bueno. Glover just took him right down, right in the half guard.

That was impressive. Hey, I don't have to pay you right now. Dude, that was impressive. I could pay you next time. Glover is a beast on the ground, man. Super beast on top. He's so dangerous on top. He's got such good control. You know what OSP's worst thing is?

Oh, look at all that great control. Oh, so great. Little crown and pound. Dude, OSP's hips. You're right, though. You're right, though. You're right, though. No, you're right. No, but look, OSP got out of there, man, for sure.

Oh, low right. It's OSP's hips, man, or his beasts from football. Someone doesn't have a diamond cup. Diamond MMA cups. Gotta have a diamond cup. Took one right to the jewels. Just like a diamond-shaped piss hole. Took one to the acai berries.

Acai, that's never fun. Especially when you're trying to grind a guy out. If he's okay right now, he lied. Because it takes way longer than that for your balls to heal. No, sometimes there's pressure. No, sometimes there's pressure, man. You need five minutes for real. I know, but there's pressure.

The fans are like, come on. There's obviously levels of getting hit by nuts. You can't heal in 30 seconds. Look at the size of his ass and legs. Jesus Christ. Oh, look at the nasty kick to the body. Oh, the size of his ass and legs. Jesus Christ. Oh, no. A nasty kick to the body. Oh, he hurt him.

Oh, he rocked him. I want my money right now. Oh, my God. Right now. Right now. Oven St. Prue, look at this. Oven's got a whole, look at this. Oh, shit.

If you pay me now. Elbows. Elbows. Hammerfist. If you pay me now, 200 bucks. No, sir. 200 bucks, just give it to me now. No, sir.

Oh, look at these elbows. Okay, i'll wait then dude oven saint prue's a monster super athletic monster oh he's fucked up he's super fucked up osb's about to win glover's very good in these situations that's how he knocked out ryan bain to the body man oh run that pipe run that pipe look Look at this. Straight to mouth. Oh, god damn. Dude, are you kidding me right now? That's Glover's ground game. Oh, this is a crazy fight. Hey, he's gonna roll. There he goes.

He's gonna get his back. But he's high. He's high on the back, man. He's high on the back. Get behind the arms. He's flattening them out. Oh, Jesus. Good control by Glover. Dude, are you kidding me right now? He's looking for that arm triangle. He likes that arm triangle. Oh, boy. He's gonna explode out of this. Goddamn ground game. There's a lot of time left.

Awful Eddie Bravo loyalty. He will. I hear you, dude, but you've got to be impressed with Glover here, no? You're not impressed? Yes. Dude, this is wicked, and plus he was tested here. I love Owens' left kick, man. Me too.

It also got him taken down, though, so I didn't love it. It did, but the one before is what started off that combination that had Glover hurt. For sure, you can't just do this. He's going to roll his back and get out. Oh, he's too high. He's got to stand up. He's got to stand up right now. Stand up.

Good control. Stand up. There's a little critical moment here, right? Stand up. Stand up. What do you do here? Oven needs to stand right now. Hand fight and stand.

Because he only has one hook in. Stand and hand fight. He's trying to create that opening. Trying to create that opening. Go, Ovins! Right there. There it is. Oh!

Oh, damn! Get up now! Oh, shit! He got up. He's about to get taken down. Damn, that was crucial. That was like a movie right there. Yeah, but I'll tell you what.

Ovins landed some fucking hard shots while he was trying to take him down earlier. There ain't no picnic standing up with him. Fuck no. And if you separate that left kick to the body and to the head. Oh, on the feet, OSP's better. I think. He's dangerous as fuck. Way more dangerous.

Because all Glover does is, he's like a really good rampage you can grapple is what I think. Well, it's also Ovens has those two big knockouts over Shogun and Cummins. Dude, he's got great takedowns. You're right about his wrestling. His wrestling is ridiculous. I think. Well, it's also Ovens has those two big knockouts over Shogun and Cummins. Dude, he's got great takedowns. You're right about his wrestling. His wrestling is ridiculous. I'm telling you, it's so fucking good. Oh, he's a beast, man. But look at Ovens looking for the fucking Paul Harris.

That's what we're going to call it from now on. It's not the Kimura anymore. It's the Paul Harris. He's using that Kimura to recover, too. He is the Kimura to recover. Oh, he's at mount. Oh, shit, I thought he was a half guard. Shit.

He got him to right to mount. Damn. Again, this is exhausting for Ovens Oh, he's at mount. Oh, shit. I thought he was in half guard. I got him to right to mount. Damn. Again, this is exhausting for Ovin St. Preux. Super exhausting. Especially if you're not a grappler. You could wind up in guard here. Oh, look at that. Look at that.

Pass. Pass. That was some serious top game right there. Ovin St. Preux loves the Von Flew. Yeah, he does. Pass to do it. Yep. He's almost there.

He has it. It's open. He has it. It's over. He might get the Von Flew here. Man, it's over. That's his shit. Why is he staying? Pass to do it. Yep. He's almost there. He has it. It's open. He has it. It's over. He might get the Von Flu here. Man, it's over. That's his shit. Why is he staying?

That's his shit. There you go, son. Glover's going out. He's going out. Glover's fucked here. He's going out. Sometimes the glove's stuck. No, Glover's smart.

He's turning away from it. Wow, this is close, though. Glover's too smart. You know what I would do here? Glover's too good of a grappler. You know what I'd do here? Look, dude. Look at this, man. He's stuck.

I jump in the top half, go lockdown, and let the guy get on top of me, and I finish from my back. It's easier from the back. What do you do, Eddie? I jump in the top half, they take it. I lock down their legs in advance, let them roll on top of me, and it's easier from the back with the lockdown. So this position right here, even the Bon Flu,

is easier from the lockdown? Look at this. Oh, man, Oven St. Prue Swims. What a fight! Don't kick, OSU. Are you kidding me? Kick, please. Kicks are awesome. That's a bad idea.

That's a horrible idea. He's such an athlete. The way he moves, he's got so much fucking horsepower behind him. He does, but at this level. Look at his ass. That's got so much fucking horsepower behind him. He does, but at the level. Look at his ass. Kim Kardashian ass. That's a Kim Kardashian ass. Look at that. Maybe after she goes to Brazil for one of them surgeries. That critter gots a shitter on him.

For sure. Hey, hey, man. That critter's got a shitter, sir. Oh, no, you didn't. Do you mind? Oh, you didn't. Son of a bitch. Son of a bitch. Sir, I'm gonna have to ask you to... Who is this? Some dude who runs fast And high five science

He's an actor Montel Williams is in it Some zombie movie Is this the Day of the Dead Or some shit? Is this the new Walking Dead one? Bro Montel Williams is not in it Is that what this is?

No You know there's a new Walking Dead Yeah Rosewood Is it called Rise of the Dead? I don't know For sure kind of switch it up though Well the idea is to keep it As close as possible because it's the same writers.

Instead of walking. They're going to have a chain of them. Gotcha. Yeah. It's something super close, like Run of the Dead or Jog of the Dead. It's smart, man, because everybody who loves that show can't get enough of it. I can't get enough of that show. I saw the first two seasons.

Is that good? It's so good. Walking Dead? Really? I need a show. So fun. Zombies? I love it.

Let me ask you this, though, Rogan. Let me ask you this. What? The new one takes place here in L.A. Well, the old one took place in Atlanta. There's no black zombies in Walking Dead. It's in Atlanta, son. Well, they pale up.

They pale up once they die. They do pale up. There's a few black ones, actually. But there would be a lot more if it was in Atlanta. You're dead right. Dude, he's dead right. That shit gets super racist. What would Sam Pruitt's got? Real problematic. That is a big, strong man. Look at was Atlanta. You're dead right. Dude, he's dead right. That shit gets super racist. That's what Sam Pruitt's got.

Real problematic. That is a big, strong man. Look at his ass. His ass is ridiculous. He played for Tennessee Volunteers. Look at that. It's that kick to the body. His kicks are nasty, man.

Yeah, he's ridiculous. He's got so much power behind him. Ouch. And he's another guy that just gets more and more efficient. He loves that uppercut, too. He gets more and more efficient. It's rough. By the way, Glover is a hell of a boxer.

Glover's more technical when he throws real short shots. Yes. Look at this. There's that fucking kick. You got a good point. But look, Vince. I know. Back to his feet.

It's going to come down to cardio. It's going to come down to cardio. And you know what? It looks like Glover has good cardio. Or a knockout. OSP's never been in dangerous rounds like championship rounds. Glover's never been knocked out, right? Well, Glover's starting to slow down, or excuse me,

OSP's starting to slow down a little bit here, and we're at four minutes and 16 seconds. That's a lot of muscle to feed oxygen to. That's a sign of weakness. A lot of muscle to feed oxygen to. Well, he's got to be aware of what he's doing, because he's exploding. He's not as mechanically efficient as Glover is. Glover's a better boxer. He keeps looking at the clock. That's a bad

sign, man. You know what? Glover's just wasting less time movement, but the movement that OSP does has so much pop behind it. You can only do that for so long, though, no matter how athletic you are. Yep, that's the difference. And getting taken down. He's going for a ride right here. And Glover's so strong.

You see him smile? He's smiling. He's smiling. Smiling, son. He's like, I'm winning this bitch. You know what? He's wearing his ass out. He's smashed right here.

Yeah, he's a better fighter. Eddie Bravo? Eddie Bravo, you want to do check or cash? Twister? You want to do check or cash? He's like, I'm winning this bitch. You know what? He's wearing his ass out. Yeah, he's a better fighter. Eddie Bravo. Eddie Bravo, you want to do check or cash? You want to do check or cash? 200 right now. I'll give you 200 right now. To get out? That's what we call it.

I'll give you 200 cash. 200 cash? 200 cash right now. Don't let him honey take you, brother. Take it. Take it. Right into your gun. Deal.

Take the money, bro. Deal. Oh, shit. Deal. Take the money. Sure? Wait a minute. Come on.

The fight's still going on. Yeah, man. No, that's part of the deal. We make the deal right now. We cash out. Give him the money. Wait a minute. Come on. The fight's still going on. No, that was part of the deal. We didn't make the deal right now. We cashed out. Cash out. This is the only time we ever pay each other. Eddie cut his losses. Sometimes when you get caught in traffic,

you chew your own foot off, but you still got your life. You don't want to get in a cardio fight with OSP. He's not going to win that one. Being that explosive. Yeah, I didn't look good. It's the second round. It doesn't look good. So I think I made out. Well, what if OSP just can kind of chillax down here and take a little breaky poo and just defend himself well?

Tough to do when you're eating elbows. When you're eating elbows, to share elbows is very tough to do. I don't have the money with me right now. You know what? Just. I don't have the money now. I could come back later. Let's go.

Let's come back again and start over. I'll spot you, baby. I'll spot you. How about this, Eddie? How about this? How about you make an alternative bet? Since you're going to let him out.

I don't have all the money. I have like $73. How about you bet... I owe you. How about you bet whether or not OSP makes it past five? Is he going to make it past the fifth round? I like that. No, he's going to get finished. He's going to get finished. Because I'll tell you right now or not OSP makes it past five? Is he going to make it past the fifth round?

I like that. He's going to get finished. He's going to get finished. I'll tell you right now, not a shot. Hey, double or nothing, Eddie. Not a shot? Not a shot. He goes past.

I'll take anybody's bet. Not a shot. He lasts. Me too. I'll bet it two grand he doesn't make it. I say he doesn't last until round three. He just is too tired. How much do you want to bet?

We could know that last bet and go back to the original one if I feel OSP is coming back. I'll make you the offer. You have a right to refusal, okay? But I'm going to give you the option. We'll just add it to the next campaign. I'll suck your dick. Because if he starts coming back, I'll go, we annul this shit. We'll see.

And we go back. But right now we're good. That's incredible. I think OSP TKO third round. Okay. Gets TKO'd in the third round. Okay, Brian, is that what you think too? Fuck yeah.

Who wants to give me a good bet that it goes the full five? Not a shot. I'll bet you anything you want. Really? Oh, yeah. Can you give me 10 to 1? I sometimes fight. 10 to 1?

10 to 1. All right, 10 to 1. $100? Oh, damn. So you get $1,000? No, I don't want to bet that much. $100? $1 to win $10. I'm looking to maximize my profits. He's going for an electric chair right now.

Bro! I mean, I'll bet you $10 to win $100. I'm not taking the money anyway. Glover's beating his ass though, that's for fuck sure. Damn, come on. He's hitting him with some serious ground. Oh, he's cutting him up with that elbow. That elbow is nasty. I'm ruthless. No, third round, it's over. He's hitting him with some serious ground. Come on. Oh, he's cutting him up with that elbow. That elbow is nasty. I'm telling you, Ovin St. Preux is not making it.

I'm ruthless. No, third round, it's over. Unless he knocks him out. See, this is the Glover that beat Ryan Bader. This is the Glover that was making his run at the title. He's a beast. He's a beast. People slept on him a little bit in this fight.

His grappling is so underrated. Look, he's getting up. OSP's getting up now. So, Ovin St. Preux is the underdog in this fight, correct? No, he's the favorite. Oh, my God. Who made those odds? Look at that.

He's getting up here. He's got the underhook. I would have? No, he's the favorite. Oh, my God. Who made those odds? Look at that. He's getting up here. He's got the underhook. I would have thought they would be even money, quite honestly. It was almost even. It was like plus 105. There he goes. Look. Oh, shit.

Which is basically even in MMA. It's back. No, no, no. He's back. He's going to get taken down. No, no. He's going to get his ass slammed again. Glover's getting tired now.

He's so tired. They're both so tired. You know what Glover said? He said in the Phil Davis fight in Brazil, he just didn't cut the weight right, and he was exhausted. So he just got't cut the weight right, and he was exhausted. So he just got fucking grappled for five rounds. Well, it was also a lot of people felt like he didn't go to American Top Team for that fight. He stayed in Connecticut and trained in his garage.

Dude, there's a long time. He did his camp in Connecticut this time, too, I thought. Look at this. He's back. He's back. Oh, shit. Look at that. Look.

Oh, shit. Glover's tired as fuck. Oh, shit. He's back. Oh, shit, son. Oh, okay. I shit, he's back. Oh shit, son. Oh, okay, I'll take the bed back. Glover, smile. I'll take the bed back. You want to go back? You want to revert? Sure, you want to revert? Relive it. Relive it, you fucks. You fucks.

We're going back. The bed is back on. Thank God Eddie Bravo didn't pay out. Guys, guys, we're back. We're fucking back. I'm eating a fucking Cheeto. You know what? We're back. I lost faith, and I'm ashamed of that. You lost faith in your boy. I am ashamed of that. Eddie, when you lose faith, you look into my eyes, and I give it back to you.

Look into my eyes. I give you strength. I am ashamed of that. But I feel now he's coming back, and he's going to take this, and you're going to owe me five. He might after seeing that. Yep. Let me explain to both of you guys.

I have one complaint. Is there any way we can get more Ronda Rousey ads? This is ridiculous. I love it. I love it. It's a little much. She's not that I love it. It's a little much. She's not that famous, though. It's a little much.

It's a little much. She's a different kind of woman, man. You know two guys that could handle her? Two guys. Thor and Hulk. Demetrius Johnson. Thor and Hulk. I think I could.

I think I could. He says Thor and Hulk. Demetrius Johnson. Captain America. The Thing. And Conor McGregor. Not a chance. I think Conor McGregor

could handle her not a chance oh yes she would eat him alive no way are you kidding I could are you kidding

I could and I think Demetrius Johnson you can't because you're a super fan which you would hate no I would have sex with her a lot I would have sex with her a lot and I'd break her walls down

and I'd be super nice to her and make her laugh let's watch this fight let's watch this fight I'd make her laugh and have sex with her this left kick of St be super nice to her and make her laugh. Let's watch this fight. Make her laugh and have sex with her. This left kick of St. Prue is a surprise with my piece. Quit going for the tights with my piece.

Here we go. Here it is. Make your mouths. By the way, Oven St. Prue might just pull this out. Dude, he could pull it out. He's exhausted. If he gets taken down, this fight is over. He can come back from being exhausted. That's what I wanted to see. He could recover. He recovers.

He still hurts Glover. recover. He recovers. No, no, no. He recovers. He still, he's hurt, Glover. Oven St. Preux. Oh, Glover just hurt him. Left hook. Oven St. Preux has to run. He has to do a lot of running.

He needs to get off the fucking cage. His feints are beautiful. Glover's footwork and his feints, he's staying just far enough that he knows what Ovens can do right now. That's a bad idea. He knows the amount of spring he's got left in his step. He's calculating it well. Yeah. He's got left in his step. He's calculating it Well, yeah, he's gonna take him down again It's gonna pop his hips to lift him up or trap is gonna scoop him right pop in the fucking air

That's who's gonna do boom. Oh Vince time to carry some weight He finished this round some four minutes and wait Eddie do would you like it doesn't mean that he's gonna have be on the ground No, no, he's gonna wear him out. He's too tired to get up. He's going to wear out Glover. He's going to wear him out. You think he's too tired to get up? Yeah, he's too tired.

It doesn't go past. Third round. I think he can still get up, man. I'm not underestimating this guy. This kid's got mad heart. I think Ovince is a tough fucking dude, man. I think he finishes him this round. I think he's not as mechanically efficient as he can be in the future

because he explodes so much and everything. But I think that's also his strength. He may be training wrong. Well, it's also his strength. He should talk to some boxers and run for a long time. Maybe that would help for sure, but it's also something that he does to people they don't expect. The amount of explosion that he jumps into stuff. He's had success with that.

Yeah, it works, man. Only to a certain level. And then when you fight a vet, a true vet who has seen that, you don't think Glover's seen an explosive guy before? Well, you know what the deal is? He's got to be able to do both and got to know when to do each one. Yes. You got to know when to do it. Got to know when to do each one.

But I think right now he's not quite as technically proficient as a guy like Glover, where Glover throws short combinations and they're smooth and efficient. Yeah. I think Ovins hasn't reached that level yet, but Ovins can hit fucking hard. Ooh, he keeps working for that mount. Look at that. He's gonna get finished here. Look at that.

Look at this shit. Look at how you earn your money. Such good control, man. Glover's control is so good. Not me, bro. Don't say you. That mount is so nasty. I earn my money by saying dick jokes on the fire in the kid. Good man, brother. Once he got on top of Kyle Kingsborough, I could really see that mount.

I was like, ooh, that's a scary-ass fucking mount. Yes. He's strong as shit, too, man. You know, the other thing about OSP, he's super strong. The other thing about OSP, he doesn't train at a high-level camp. Where does he train? He trains in Tennessee at this. Oh, my God.

He doesn't have a lot of high-class training partners. Oh, he's getting fucked up, dude. He's getting fucked up. He's he train? He trains in Tennessee at this. Oh my God. He doesn't have like a lot of high class training partners. Oh, he's getting fucked up, dude. He's getting fucked up. He's gonna get finished. Oh, that's it. What did I tell you? Eddie Bravo, give me my 500 cash money. That's done. That's too deep. Way too deep.

That's too deep. And he's going to sleep. And and let's. He's out. He's out. going to sleep. And let's... He's out. He's out. He went out. Wow. Eddie, I'm sorry.

Dude, he was thinking about tapping. I think I said third round submission. Hey, respect to OSP. He was thinking about tapping and decided not to tap. OSP's a bad motherfucker. He decided not to tap. He went out, man. God bless him.

And look at how awesome Glover is. Glover's like the nicest guy ever. What a great guy. Stone Cold Killer, nice guy. What a fucking great guy. What a crazy moment that is when a fighter decides not to tap. It's pretty gangster. Fuck. Sometimes

they don't know, though. You think you're like, you know, I'm gonna light them. Yeah, it's true. It's true. I've gotten choked out. You're like, I'm gonna fight. Look at this. Look at this combination. Mitrione gave a thumbs up when I'm in a darch. That's a cool story, bro. Look at this. Look at this combination. Mitrione gave a thumbs up when I'm in a darch. That's a cool story, bro. Look at this fucking right here, man.

And then watch when he cinches it up onto the bicep. Whoa. Like, why wouldn't you tap, though? He's not even fighting. Dude. He's trying to fight with one hand. He's trying to fight. Oh, that's not good.

Glover's got that squeeze, son. And that's where a guy like McCarthy is so important. John McCarthy is so fucking awesome. I love that guy. He's such a legit. He's the best. Legit Brazilian jiu-Jitsu black belt, too. He knows exactly what's going on there.

And he trains. Fuck. You know what? This is good for OSP, though, man. Two minutes? We're done. Yeah, hey, perfect timing. What a fucking fight companion.

Great for OSP. Yeah. I learned from this. Eddie, you owe me $500. We'll do it for the next fight companion. Are you guys going to be here next weekend? EBI is next weekend. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're going to be here? Next Saturday. Oh, shit. You going? You're going to be here next weekend? EBI is next weekend. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to be here? Next Saturday. Oh, shit. You going? You're going to be here next Saturday? If you give me an invite, I'll come. Absolutely. VIP tickets.

Brian Callen. Son. Brian Callen. If you're listening, I got a submission-only jiu-jitsu tournament going on next Saturday. It's going to be on budovideos.com Saturday night. We'll be tweeting about it all next week. Yeah, we'll all tweet about it. You can go to YouTube and search EBI 4 Countdown Show on YouTube, and then that'll explain

what it's all about. Yeehaw, fucks. All right. Eddie Bravo on Twitter, 10thplanetjj.com, Instagram, TheRealEddieBravo. Yes. TheRealEddieBravo Instagram. Don't go to Eddie Bravo. Big time.

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Twitter. The Fighter and the Kid. Watch the Fighter and the Kid. And when are you going to bring back Eddie Bravo Radio? Is that going to happen? That's coming. Eddie, come on the Fighter and the Kid. Also, first Fighter and the Kid live. First Fighter and the Kid live. First Fire and the Kid live. Bray Improv. Tickets are on sale.

BrayImprov.com. Thank you, guys. I'd love to be on your show, God damn it. Let's do it. We love it. Make it happen. We love you, so we'll have you on. Are you kidding me? We love doing these things, and we appreciate all the positive energy that we get for you

guys. We get super psyched when you guys get psyched that we do these. We get fired up. These are so much fun, because we are 100% ourselves on these things, and we get super psyched when you guys get psyched that we do these yeah, we get fired up these are so much fun because we are a hundred percent ourselves on these things and Get to fuck off and have fun. It's a very unusual thing to be able to do so I appreciate the fuck Eddie guys This is an awesome show. We love you I appreciate it, but the wine, the weed We've all known each other, you know I've known you guys for 20 years almost now. How about that? It's been awesome

How about that? We're been awesome. How about that? We're so lucky. That's, I think, one of the most important things in life is having cool friends. Friends. That's why I drove to the comedy store yesterday. I had no other reason. I said, maybe Joe's there. I see you right in the parking lot.

I got out and we hang out for two hours just talking. We take pleasure. They always say the coolest shit is the shit you don't expect, the shit you didn't plan for. And like this crew, we didn't plan this shit. It's kind of just happened. We're probably going to fuck in a night. You know what I mean, guys? And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much.

See you guys soon. Bye. Sorry, man. You want to go to the plant? Don't worry. You know what I mean? We can actually.