The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - February 21, 2016

Episode Date: February 21, 2016

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub, Ian McCall & Eddie Bravo to watch the fights on February 21, 2016. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And we're live! The Dada 5000 fan club is here for its first big meeting. Cowboy Cerrone fighting another cowboy. Cowboy Oliveira. Oliveira! We are live. This is a fight companion. If you've never heard one of these before, you're like, Oh, I'm hoping the podcasts are going to talk about space or maybe perhaps birth control.
Starting point is 00:00:23 No, this podcast is mostly bullshitting. Like, we kind of talk about the fights that are happening, but maybe not. Edgy Bra is here, a.k.a. Eddie Bravo, a.k.a. Master of Tenth Planet Jujitsu. Holla. Holla. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:00:43 This is an honor to be here. Ian motherfucking McCall. Uncle Creepy in the house. Holla. What up, bitches? Holla. I'm covered in fucking ham grease. I love it.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Yeah, this stuff's good. This is from Dr. Chris Ryan. It is nice. It's really good for you, too. It's a wild ham that they cure it. And then, of course, Bren new shop he's here big daddy that's his new name daddy a few hours from the hospital yeah so where's prison fights Derek Brunson here we go who's he fighting tonight he's fighting
Starting point is 00:01:21 homeboy the Brazilian cat Oh, that guy Oh, the one with the nose and the face? There you go Oh, he's got good jiu-jitsu Really good jiu-jitsu And he's been around for a long time Yeah, he took a long time off the UFC, right? He got cut
Starting point is 00:01:37 It was his second stint Yeah, he fought Mark Munoz in his last outing And we're naked chokes It looks like Mark Munoz in his last outing. Rear naked choke. Marky Munoz. It looks like Mark Munoz just does not want to do it anymore. Well, he retired. Yeah, I'm glad he did. Me too, man.
Starting point is 00:01:51 That guy took some horrible beatings. That Machida one, really. The wide man, the Machida one. Yeah. Mark's issue was, you know, Mark was the captain of our team. Mark's issue was, I issue was he blew the fuck up between fights. He's a Filipino. I mean, we're talking, he was just
Starting point is 00:02:09 I mean, he fought at 185, maybe 240, 250, but not like cool 240, 250. He was like butter bean. What was he eating? Everything. His feelings. He had depression issues, right?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah, like after the Weidmanman fight he had super depression issues from the loss. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean the nice guy on earth The loss depression and there's also a KO depression like a true physical depression And they're the more they're looking into that shit, you know that dude Dave Mira committed suicide? Yeah, the BMX guy. Legend. So sad. Two kids. Because those BMXers get a ton of concussions, right? Slamming their head against the concrete and shit.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Horrible. Horrible shit. And they fall from 30 feet up in the sky, have all that momentum, just whack. I've had some friends that I've watched people that had friends in all those sports and hurt themselves. Yeah, they hurt themselves and they become a different person. Totally. Their brain gets so scrambled, they're just not the same again. They get super depressed.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah, that's a big part of head trauma is depression. Are those guys born without fear? What is it like those dudes who do crazy BMX stuff and motocross tricks and flips and jumps? You can't have any fear, right? They think we're fucking crazy. That's the fucked up part. I've spent my whole life knowing a lot of these kids.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And one of my buddies, same as me, has a couple kids, his wife, and won a couple X-Games gold medals. And he's like, well, how do you do that?
Starting point is 00:03:40 He's such a nice guy. He's this tiny, frail, not frail, but he whips a bike around. But he's just smaller. And he's like, how do you do that? You're going to hurt somebody. You're going tiny, frail, not frail, but he whips a bike around, but he's just smaller. He's like, how do you do that? You're going to hurt somebody. You're going to fucking hurt yourself, man. You've got kids. I'm like, I saw you this morning
Starting point is 00:03:51 50 feet above the ground, upside down with a fucking motorcycle. What the fuck are you talking about? Those dudes are nuts. What do you mean? Everybody's got their own idea of what's scary, though. It's weird. For some people, the scariest thing in the world is public speaking. Doing this.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah. Doing this would be terrifying. But to us, this is like a hangout. Yeah, love it. We have to remind ourselves that we have headphones on and that we're on. No, it's nothing. But to me, the idea of jumping, flipping through the air in a motorcycle, fuck all that. Skydiving is fun, though.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Don't fucking knock it. See, I would never do it. I did a lot of stupid sports. I put myself in the hospital snowboarding. I'm tiny, but I've been good at just about everything I've done. Yeah, I think I'm done skiing, man. I haven't done it in a while. I went skiing last week.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Did you really? I fucking one-wiped hard. Do you show in snowboarding? You show in snowboarding? No. I went skiing last week. Did you really? I fucking one wipe hard. Do you show in snowboarding? You show in snowboarding? No, I like skiing. But it's not the problem. The problem is just there's a lot of people on the fucking mountain. You're coming down the mountain. Where'd you go? There's all these people,
Starting point is 00:04:57 Park City, Utah. I love it there. Love it. When you're coming down... It's so much fun. Oh, God. But you're coming down the mountain, and you're like, don't get hurt. Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt. Boom.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Ooh, I didn't get hurt. Let's try it again. Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt. So there's all these people that are zipping and zagging. There's people way better than you. And there's people that suck worse than you.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And you're managing all this stuff as you're going down. There's so many people on the mountain, man, because it was, I guess, President's Day weekend? What was last weekend? That's President's Day so many people on the mountain, man, because it was, I guess, President's Day weekend? What was last weekend? That's President's Day. So it was super crowded, man. Do you fall multiple times every run? No. I only fell three times in two days.
Starting point is 00:05:34 That's fucking good. One was hard. I grew up doing it, man. Fuck that noise. I'm going fast, too, man. Never go where? Skiing and snowboarding. I grew up snowboarding.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I miss it. I want to go before the snow melts. You can't pay me enough to do it. Dude, I'm an asshole. Well, I try and do things I used to do when I was in high school. Like, oh, my God, I can rodeo that, or I can frontside five that, or do something over this jump, and then I end up doing flips and spins. You do a rodeo? You flip in the air?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Look how fucking small I am. I can flip over anything. But you flip doing snowboarding? I used to yeah oh my god you're one of those guys that's crazy you hit your face
Starting point is 00:06:07 you're one of those guys I'm totally fine but I was never that good I would just try that my brother on the other hand was really good but of course he blew out his knee twice
Starting point is 00:06:15 two collarbone breaks collarbone's always gone when you land wrong and you land face down that's how I broke mine I've been with guys friends that are that are crazy like that
Starting point is 00:06:24 and I would just slide down the mountain. Collarbone is one of those moves that assholes think they could end a fight with. Jesse James was on Howard Stern. He was talking about street fighting. He was like, what'd I do? I just hit people in the collarbone.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I'm like, fuck you. Fuck you. Come hit my collarbone. Come hit it. Get close to my collarbone. All I have to do is it. All I have to do is this. All I have to do is this. It's not your first surprise move. It ain't working. Maybe it's your first surprise move.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I've never even heard of a guy getting his collarbone broken like that. He's not going to get close enough. He's not going to do shit. If you have a pipe in your hand. If you make believe you don't want to fight and you're like, dude, let's just talk this out. Boom. But you're not.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Okay. A straight punch to the collarbone ain't doing jack shit. It's not doing jack shit. To the sternum, it's going to fuck you up. Maybe. You think that guy can punch? He's just so big. Let's say his big ass just doos. Guarantee you that
Starting point is 00:07:17 guy punches like a bitch. Guarantee you. One from downtown to the sternum? From downtown, if you're standing there waiting for that's what I'm saying You're talking to a girl, and he's like hey boom his buddy distraction comes up People talk tough guy stuff when they say like I'll hate a guy in the sternum or I'll hit the guy in the collarbone Like just stopped talking about Steven Seagal 101 That's what you're talking about son
Starting point is 00:07:41 Generally people's life well Eddie Bravo, and I had the worst guy ever. There was a guy who told us he would grab your thumbnail. He would pinch down your thumbnail. Do you remember that fucking guy, Vinny? Remember that guy, Vinny, from the comedy store? Remember the fake jujitsu guy? I do remember him, yeah. Do you remember that guy?
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah. He would grab your thumb and press down your thumbnail. He was convinced that he, I'll just grab you. I'll grab you like this. There's a pressure point on the tip of your tongue. On the tip of your thumb, it's intolerable. The pain is intolerable. And I'm like, this motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:08:09 You just want to hit him with a frying pan. He grabbed my thumb. He grabbed it. He grabbed it. He grabbed my thumb. He squeezed the shit out of my thumb. Let me show you. But it doesn't hurt.
Starting point is 00:08:17 It hurts. It doesn't feel good. But it doesn't even make you scream. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense. First of all, good luck holding on to it. It's just the tip of your thumb dude if i'm that guy and i'm selling that lie whatever to chicks or to get laid and joe rogan comes around i'm not saying meanwhile all you have to do is suck your thumbs before you fight him and he's doomed get him all slippery lube up your
Starting point is 00:08:40 thumbs just stop is this james kra, okay. He's good, dude. I like that guy. Fun fights tonight. Who's he fighting? Shane Campbell? Is that who he's fighting? Yeah. The fight I wanted to see most was that, what's his name, Cody and that linker.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Oh, Lineker? Yes. Cody Goldberg. That was the fight. Lineker pulled out. He got sick. Is that what happened? The Brazilian, what's it called? Oh,er. Oh, Lineker? Yes. Cody Goldberg. That was the fight. Lineker pulled out. He got sick. Is that what happened? The Brazilian, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:09:08 Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. He got Zika? Yes. No. No, not Zika. What is it? You got something bad? Malaria?
Starting point is 00:09:15 Nope, not malaria. Something like AIDS? Nope. Gonorrhea? Man, that would be cool. Leprosy? No. Steroids?
Starting point is 00:09:22 Look it up. They allow you to fight with herpes. Believe me. Damn, son. Okay. cool leprosy no they allow you to fight with herpes believe me okay just kidding wink um yeah he got it was gone you get it from mosquitoes out there but you know what the guy who stepped in his place is tank uh augusto mendez taquinho that guy beat half a mendez to win the world championship so the guy ta, is fighting fucking tonight. Cody hits like a tank, though. And he's first team all-team.
Starting point is 00:09:49 This guy's a tank, though. Taquino means real tank. He was preparing for a guy with no jiu-jitsu, and all of a sudden he's got a guy who's one of the best jiu-jitsu artists in the fucking world. And he's big. He didn't make it to weight either. Taquino is a fucking tank whose base, he's not like a regular jiu-jitsu guy. This guy, he's known for his ultimate balance and base. He's going to be on top of your ass.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Damn, that sucks for Cody. Yeah, this guy. Sucks hard for Cody. But, but, but. Hey, son. I don't know anything about his striking. You have a promising career? Check this shit out.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I don't know anything about his striking. His striking could be garbage. I don't know. I have no idea. But, man. Cody can wrestle, too. He wrestled D1 or no? No. I hate
Starting point is 00:10:28 saying this shit because I played basketball in high school so I never called myself a basketball player. But he wrestled in high school. He's really good. And he had all these boxing fights and kickboxing and amateur MMA. He definitely doesn't suck. He's good, man. Very good hands.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Extra little fact, Taquino used to date Mackenzie Dern. Dude, I'm not mad at her at all. Easy with the Dern boys. Mackenzie? She's a jiu-jitsu girl, right? Yeah, she's hot. She's the best jiu-jitsu girl on the planet. And she's hot.
Starting point is 00:10:56 By far the hottest girl to ever grace a gi. I don't know. Kira Gracie? She's pretty goddamn hot, too. She's really hot. I'd take Mackenzie. Different bodies, though. Because then you've got to deal with all the Gracies if you date her. You've got to think about that. That's even better. That's pretty goddamn hot. She's really hot. I'd take Mackenzie. Different bodies, though. Different bodies. Because then you've got to deal with all the Gracies
Starting point is 00:11:05 if you date her. You've got to think about that shit. It's even better. It's tough, man. It's a lot of pressure. Family functions. You've become one of the family. Bring the show. I've got to do the Gracie diet and shit all the time. You've got to only water men and buy yourself. Speaking of the Gracies, big mad props to
Starting point is 00:11:21 Hoist Gracie. Even though there was some crazy thing with Ken Shamrock, Hoist went out there and though there was some crazy things, you know, with Ken Shamrock. Hoist went out there and did what he does, and... Did what he does? Knee guys to the balls? Yeah. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:11:31 That wasn't... Was that really... If he submitted them, you could say did what he does. He took them down and beat the shit out of them. If Ken was just wearing... Six straight strikes to the face. Six solid...
Starting point is 00:11:40 You're just saying that because he doesn't like you. You're trying to win him back. You're trying to win him back. Dad, please love me. Yeah, maybe he'll forgive me. No, but I'll just call it like I see it. Yo, he showed some serious K-1 or K-3 striking.
Starting point is 00:11:54 K-4, maybe K-5. You didn't think his footwork was all right? I thought Ken was really hesitant, standing on the outside. I thought Ken would light him up. I'm saying Ken compared to Hoyce's footwear. Hoyce wasn't doing much. There's no threat to his striking. So I was super surprised that Ken wasn't lighting him up.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Because if you go back to Ken that fought Fujita, Ken had some fucking legit leg kicks. God damn, you've got to go back. Some good power. Yeah, but he's not a cripple. I mean, where did the body go? He's got to have that power. He's got to have that ability. Those aren't the same joints, my man.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Maybe. I mean, I don't know what's going on with his body, but I would have thought Ken would have fucked his legs up. If I was in Ken's corner, I would say, you're going to kick the shit out of this dude's legs. He's no threat with punches. It's not like he's going to drop you with one straight right hand. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So what you do is you like paw with the hands and you Come in and you throw bomb leg kicks Dengue Dengue fever. That's no joke. It's not fun that kills motherfuckers. Yeah, I really thought I would thought Ken would have just lit Those legs on fire, but at the same time Hoist's chance was on the ground. He didn't want to get taken down. He had Dengue fever too. He might have got that too He might have got everything. Talking about Justin Redd. If Hoist's number one strategy is to take a guy down,
Starting point is 00:13:08 that would make you hesitant throwing leg kicks, right? Not if you're Ken Shamrock with his wrestling background and his striking. Fuck a takedown from Hoist Gracie. Yeah, Hoist is not like a D1 wrestler who's 20 years old.
Starting point is 00:13:18 But he clinches up and trips. He clinches up and trips. If he knows how to do that. Oh, look at this. James Krause with the Hia Neko. I'm calling it like I see it, Brendan. It's snug as fuck. Oh, that's a tap. Is it a tap?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Nope. Was it the round? Yep. Was it? Hey, has there ever been a bigger shit show than that Bellator fight? Never. I think it put our sport back seven years. Nah. Just put Bellator back. Free agents now are going to go, Bellator?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Fuck, man. Fuck that. How about Dada? Went to the hospital. Yeah, his heart stopped. Dada died. It was filled with cheeseburgers and fried chicken and orange soda. Is there any way you could have trained for that fight? He didn't train.
Starting point is 00:13:57 There's no way he trained. No, no way. He thought he was just hooding up. I mean, he might have trained for a couple of days. They said he lost 40 pounds. Well, that's not good. You should have lost 40 pounds before. It's not like you didn't know you were going to do this.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You don't do that in the backyards. Well, how about Kimbo? What the fuck was going on with him? Yeah, I don't know. That wasn't even amateur hours. If it's an amateur fight, you'd be chomping at the bit to get at those guys. But I hope they're in my bracket. All you have to do is dance around for a few minutes. These guys are toast.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I agree. A low-level college wrestler would have fucked those dudes up. How about this one exchange? Fuck the college wrestler. How about the one exchange where Dada just sort of laid down and Kimbo just rolled over on top of him? He just laid down. That hurt my soul. They just laid down. The fight hurt my soul. There was no takedown.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It was like, let's just take this to the ground. I wonder if they were talking to each other. You want to take this to the ground, homie? Yeah. Is this a chill dog? Do we call it a chill dog? How about Kimbo and Mal? Dude, I felt like throwing up.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I got done. I was like, ah. Early in the first round, though, it didn't look so bad. I was like, okay, Kimbo's got some ground skills. I thought, okay, this guy's going to get fucked up. Kimbo's going to pound him out, but zero gas. Have you seen the documentary that Dada comes from, Dogfights?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah, that's my friend Billy Corbin. Yeah, Billy Corbin. He's the best. You had him on your podcast, right? Billy's great. And he's the guy who did Cooking Cowboys. Yes, and the U. He's great. Billy's awesome. But that's where I was like, damnboys. Yes. And did, yep, Cowboy. And the U. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:25 He's great. Billy's awesome. But that's where I was like, damn, Dada has some hands, man. This guy's kind of cool. If you just stand right in front of him. His haircut's cool. He's got some hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah, I mean, he was fighting. Look, that's the thing about can crushers. You look awesome if you're fighting nobody. But he's 2-0. Then you come from fighting on the back streets of Miami. Right. And then you're fucking launched into Bellator. Not only that, he's 2-0. Then you come from fighting on the back streets of Miami. Right. And then you're fucking launched into Bellator. Not only that, he's 2-0.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And I think his last opponent, whoever was talking about it on the broadcast, was talking about the record of his last opponent. It was like, you know, 0-16. That was like a midget fight. You know what I mean? It's like, you know what that showed? That showed that maybe Bellator just was a little too eager to try to do things that the UFC wasn't willing to do. Well, no, but you come out, it's the pride thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:14 You come out, you have Tyson commentating and he's drunk. All the stuff that the UFC wouldn't do, Bellator's like, we're going to do it. You can't do that, man. Do you think Tyson was drunk? He was on something. He was on some pills. He was on some shit. I think he might have been on a whole career of getting punched in the head. You think? Hopefully when I have brain
Starting point is 00:16:32 trauma like that catches up, I hope I'm like that. He was funny. He was fun. Mike Tyson commentating is hilarious. He was funny. Which way did he go? Which way did he go? I'm totally for that. When Melvin Gillard got knocked out, he's like, which way did he go? Which way did he go? I'm totally for that. When Melvin Gillard got knocked out, he's like, which way did he go? Which way did he go?
Starting point is 00:16:46 He's ruthless. Ruthless mocking dudes getting teed off on. He's like, look where you're going to be eventually. Look at me. But just in the grand scheme of things, like Bellator, they signed Ben Henderson, who's a fucking monster. That's good. And you want to get all these other guys to come over.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And Phil Davis. So they're making momentum. Then you put that product out. If I'm a free agent, I'm like, fuck, man. I don't want to be all these other guys to come over. And Phil Davis. So they're making momentum. Then you put that product out. If I'm a free agent, I'm like, fuck, man. I don't want to be part of that. I think they eventually got to let all that stuff go. They can't keep doing those. I agree.
Starting point is 00:17:12 They should stop. This is the last one. Stop the sideshow. It was real bad. Because if they keep doing it, they're going to really lose credibility. There's a lot of things they need to do. That name, they're sticking with that stupid fucking name. And they're calling it Bellator Kickboxing, too.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Hey, man, let's not do that. Bellator is a dumb name. Who runs the PR, for fuck's sakes? Well, rest assured, you're absolutely only going to get people that are fans of Bellator already. They're going to take it seriously and look for it. Like, people that are flipping through the channels, when they see Bellator Live, what does that mean? What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:17:43 But if you have MMA live, oh, Kraus got it again. Damn, this dude knows how to turn away from chokes. Yeah, he's nasty at getting out. But Kraus is all over him. He's nasty at surviving. But I'm just thinking if they just turned it into MMA,
Starting point is 00:17:59 oh, look, Kraus hits an armbar. Kraus is fucking ferocious on the ground. This dude's got his back now. If they just turned it into MMA, everybody knows what MMA is. I agree. It's Bellator MMA. Yeah, but it's Bellator. It's a dumb name. I don't think the name matters. Ryzen. I disagree. Pride.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, Ryzen didn't mean shit. You get used to it. How's Ryzen and Pride doing, Eddie? How's Ryzen and Pride doing? Oh, because of their name they failed? It has nothing to do with the Yakuza. It's details, my man. It's details. Well, it starts with the goddamn name. Okay, I thought it was cuz of the Yakuza, but I guess Do you pay attention to sneaky shit that the fucking athletic Commission did yes, and really sneaky ass shit No, they gave they vanderlei signs a fight with fate or UFC lets him go
Starting point is 00:18:40 Okay, so vanderlei finally can make some money the dude hasn't been able to make any money. It's all over a year I think it's like 17 months The dude hasn't been able to make any money in over a year. I think it's like 17 months he hasn't been able to make a dime. So he's struggling. And the Athletic Commission totally did him dirty. They suspended him for his entire career. The judge overrules it, says that you can't do that. You can't just suspend a guy forever.
Starting point is 00:19:00 You can't just deny him a right to make a living. So Vandele gets a release from the UFC, signs to fight Fedor in Rizin. It's a big payday for him. I'll watch that. Finally, he's going to get some money, right? You know what the Athletic Commission does? What?
Starting point is 00:19:13 They fucking suspend him for three years. So, they say, okay, we are going to change your suspension from a lifetime ban to three years. So, it's retroactive. So, he still has a year and a half to go so he can't take this fight. Hold up, but Rison's in where, Japan?
Starting point is 00:19:28 It doesn't matter. Why? If he goes over there and takes that fight, they'll view it as a violation and he won't be able to fight in the United States. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 But doesn't matter. Stay over in Rison, you're never going to fight him. He'll never be able to fight in the United States so he's stuck over there. Yeah, you should say fuck it. You should say fuck it.
Starting point is 00:19:42 He's only got a few fights left. But here's why he shouldn't. Bellator will probably pay him some serious fucking money. Some serious fucking money. But how old will he be in a year and a half? Yeah, but he's not a year and a half older. Bellator, let's take it international then. But what's going on?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah, but Ryzen ain't going to be around, son. Ryzen doesn't have much time. And what's he going to do? He's going to fight for one FC? No one watches that. You know, Ben Askren's been whooping Chinese dudes' asses over there for a year and a half. No one sees shit. And can't get a fucking ride up on anything.
Starting point is 00:20:08 No one talks about it. No, it sucks. He's amazing. Ben Askren's ragged on, beating the fuck out of dudes. I like they allow him to use knees on the ground. Is it Chrome fighting in 1FC or is that Rizin? Rizin. No, he's fighting in Rizin too.
Starting point is 00:20:19 His last fight was Rizin. But before that was 1FC, right? Correct. Aoki's fighting in 1FC. Chrome fought in 1FC too? 1FC. I think his first fight was 1FC. I'm pretty sure. It was Ryzen. But before that was 1FC, right? Correct. Aoki's fighting in 1FC. I think his first fight was 1FC. I'm pretty sure. It was in Asia. Maybe it was another organization.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah, his first fight was NFC. His last fight was Ryzen, though. But if I'm Wanderlei, what are you going to do, wait around? I don't know. To fight in the States? I just think it's dirty what the Athletic Commission did. They're fucked up. They suspended him right after he takes his fight.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So by violating it, essentially they're playing little games. Because by him violating that, they're really like... They get what they want. Yeah, they get what they want. Wanderlei's bigger over there. Yeah, but all they had to do, like how many months away is that fight?
Starting point is 00:21:01 It's in August, right? Correct. At least what he posted. March, April, May, June, July, August. If they just gave him two years, they gave him two years, he would have been out. He would have been done at the end of July. That sucks. He would have been able to fight, and they gave him an extra year, so he's fucked. You know what, man?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Two years is what you're supposed to get, because that's what you would have got if he tested positive. Correct. That's what Gleason did. He ran. Let's pretend he was positive. Yeah. Pretend he was positive. Correct. That's what Glacian did. He ran. Let's pretend he was positive. Yeah. Pretend he was positive,
Starting point is 00:21:26 then he's two years, you fine him for whatever, and you let the guy have a goddamn fucking career. This is a game. I think it's a game. He's also a legend. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:35 You son of a bitch. Giving him three years. First of all, why is it three years when he didn't test positive if it's two years if he did test positive? That doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:21:43 No. Two years is the right amount. If a guy runs from a test, assume he's positive. He definitely shouldn't have ran. He definitely should be penalized. Every fighter who runs from a test should be penalized as if they tested positive. So if that's the case,
Starting point is 00:21:55 why three years? Why not two? Didn't Overeem run from a test? No. He tested positive. He tested positive. Horse meat. Yeah, horse meat. I don't know why I did a German voice It works though It's a mustache Dude back to belt
Starting point is 00:22:09 How about Your boy Justin Ren Wants to fight Kimbo Slice Fuck yeah Kimbo Slice Kimbo Slice is going night night Cause Justin Ren You can hit that dude in the head
Starting point is 00:22:17 With a rock He's a gorilla I don't think Justin knocks him out I think Justin takes him down And beats his shit out of him He beats the shit out of him He takes him down if he wants to But. He beats the shit out of him. He takes him down if he wants to, but if he's standing with him, all he has to do is keep moving.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But you know, the reason Justin wants to fight is because it's such a big fight, so he can build wells in fucking Africa. That's why he wants such a mainstream fight. He's different than other dudes. That's why he deserves it, too. He deserves it. He's awesome. And if Belter's smart, they should do it. It's a good story, especially Kimba's last fight. Let's figure this out.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It might not be his last fight. Well, no. I'm just saying. It should be his last fight. No, no. It's a good story. Especially Kimbo's last fight. Let's figure this out. It might not be his last fight. Well, no. I'm just saying. It should be his last fight. No, no. It's whatever. You know Justin and Kimbo were supposed to fight on Ultimate Fighter 10. It was lined up and then the suits came in. They were supposed to fight. The week of the fight, the suits came in like,
Starting point is 00:22:59 hey, Justin. They sat Justin down like, for ratings, we gotta do this. And then they put in Roy Nelson. Well, that's even dumber. Because Roy Nelson is very fucking skilled. Well, no. They wanted Roy to beat him. Yeah, they wanted Roy to beat him.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I mean, it's Roy Nelson. Yeah, but nobody knew who Roy was back then. Oh, man. Roy is, I mean, he's pretty big. I don't think they wanted Kimbo to do well, is what I'm trying to tell you. Oh, the UFC didn't want Kimbo to do well. Because they knew he was going to lose. Because, to be honest, anyone with a good set of skills is going they wanted Kimbo to do well is what I'm trying to tell you. Oh, the UFC didn't want Kimbo to do well. Because they knew he was going to lose. Because to be honest, anyone with a good set of skills was going to beat Kimbo.
Starting point is 00:23:29 So whoever got that first crack at him, he was probably going to get fucked up. So he fought Justin. Justin would be able to become a star. Roy, you know. Yeah. So it's a big fight. They didn't want him to do well. Roy was by far the worst matchup.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Justin was supposed to fight him. The coaches had it all matched up. They yanked Justin. Insert fucking Roy Nelson with 30 fights. Enjoy that, Kimbo. Yeah, enjoy getting crucifixed. Yeah, exactly. So now Justin's like, yo, we were supposed to fight.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Let's do it. I'm trying to build some fucking wells. Yeah, he's definitely got different motivation than everybody else. Yeah, man. What a great guy he is. God, such a better guy than me. Such a... Because I would take that money and buy watches and cars and shit.
Starting point is 00:24:06 There's no wells. There's no water. Oh, yo, yo, yo. We've got some bad news. I can't get the well equipment to Africa. What happened? Some rims, son. What's going on with your Instagram page?
Starting point is 00:24:16 How much does that watch cost? Exactly the same amount as a well. It's weird. Dude, I bought myself a gift. It was a gift from a charity. I bought myself a gift for having a baby. I guess you get the mom. What about me?
Starting point is 00:24:26 Bought myself a Rolex, son. Did you? Yeah, I'm like, what about me? I showed up, my dad's like, what's up? I'm like, I got a push gift, Ed. That's hilarious. There it is. A push gift.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah, girls get push gifts. Oh, shit. There's two dads. Kraus is back. Deep. Two hooks in. Oh, shit. Flattened out.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Nope. Kraus escaped. Flattened out. Nope. Kraus escape. Back to his back. He could escape into an arm triangle right there. Yeah, he is. As soon as he turns. He's too smart for that, son. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:24:54 He's got one or the other. He's going to have his back taken still. Dude, that McGregor Dos Anjos makes my dick hard. Even that flyer right there. It makes other people's dicks hard. I'm going to say something crazy, Joe. You ready for this? Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I think the toughest matchup possible in the UFC for McGregor is Dos Anjos. I think the easier fight is Robbie Lawler for him. Wow. Suck on that. Yeah. And I've been thinking about that a lot lately. God, I hate everyone fucking talking about this right now. And I was just putting two and two together.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I'm like, well, if he does knock out Dos Anjos, I was like, wow. He's going to 170. Him and Robbie are going to fucking throw down. No, they're not. Robbie's not going to touch him. You don't think so? Not a chance. Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:34 You think he's just going to move around a while? I think he fucks Robbie up. And I love Robbie. Wow. Style-wise, I think he fucks Robbie up. Where does Connor stop? At 170. At 170.
Starting point is 00:25:42 He fucks everybody up at 170. Why wouldn't he go 185? He's already stating publicly that he's not afraid of any weight class. At 170. He goes to 170. He fucks everybody up at 170. Why wouldn't he go 185? He's already stating publicly that he's not afraid of any weight class. Here's what I have to say to everybody. But then physics come into play. Stay the fuck away from Wonderboy. Because that dude's got the fucking glow right now. I agree.
Starting point is 00:25:58 He's got the Bruce Leroy growth. That's my motherfucker. Stay the fuck away. I agree. What he did to Johnny Hendricks should be against the law. They should have shut the lights off. They should have separated them and go, whoa, whoa, whoa, not tonight.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Not tonight, bro. We need to stop this. Hendricks came in shape, had all his fucking shit figured out. Get up. Get up. Big as karate right now. Karate is strong as fuck right now. I've been saying for years that sport karate has this one element
Starting point is 00:26:23 that no one knows how to fuck with. These blitz guys. These Raymond Daniels guys that jump in and attack and then jump out before you can do anything about it. And if you don't have some serious Nicky Holtskin style or Joseph Valtellini style Muay Thai skills where you can hands up high and chop those legs. No one has that right now. No one has that. No one in the UFC has it right now. Look at what Raymond Daniels does to everybody except Nicky Holtzkin and Joseph Valtellini in glory.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Valtellini was the first guy exposed. Chopped those legs down. Hands up high. Good guard. Attack, attack, attack the legs and eventually chop them down. And he head kicks him and stops him. And the same thing with Niki Holtzkin. It's that super solid Muay Thai base.
Starting point is 00:27:01 But everybody else gets 360 wheel kicked in the head. He hits you with that jumping side kick. Touches you with the side kick and then spins the back kick to the face. So I think Wonderboy right now beats everyone. The worst matchup for him, Roy McDonald. He's too smart. I think he grinds him out. Guess who he's fighting next.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Fuck off. Roy McDonald? That's what I'm hearing. I could see Roy throwing a real heavy Muay Thai. I fucking hate that for him, sister. Let's let Wonderboy do his thing. Why would you give him the worst matchup possible? Why wouldn't you give Roy an opportunity to stop the hype train if he's leaving so strongly?
Starting point is 00:27:33 There you go. Okay, what do you think Roy's going to be able to do to him? He just wants to wear his skin, that's all. Just wants to, you know, carry him into the woods. I don't think the UFC is enough to have that fight. I don't know if it's 100%. It's a rumor. I saw it was a rumor. That's why I mentioned it. I I don't know if it's 100%. It's a rumor. I saw it as a rumor.
Starting point is 00:27:45 That's why I mentioned it. I might have done a little fucking... No, it's a rumor. I saw it before. I might have done a video where I hyped it up already that hasn't aired yet.
Starting point is 00:27:54 It might have happened. I mean, I don't remember. It might be breaking news. There you go, Cheeto Fingers. Write that one. Speaking of. Advancing 15%. I think Roy McDonald's
Starting point is 00:28:02 too smart to fall into his traps. Okay, so what does he do? He's got a kickbox with him when they're on the outside. And that's where he's fucked. His jab is fucking nasty. And then as soon as Rory gets comfortable. But he fucks everybody. What is that?
Starting point is 00:28:14 That is a giant one, dude. That's the biggest battery I've ever seen on one of those things. That thing is like a paper towel roll. Just put it in your mouth. How long does that battery last? It looks like it'll last a year. A while. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I have no idea. You could go fucking hiking in the Alps with that battery. I love this. Like, a few hours later, you smoke pot? I was like, I smoke a lot of pot. Smoke a lot. No one ever knew. I knew that about you.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I knew that about you. You knew that. Yeah. Maybe I knew and I forgot. Have you? I figured you didn't. Ooh, this is legit. It's legit. Good lord. I'm good, man. I have this didn't. This is legit. It's legit.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Look legit. I'm good, man. I have this thing. I'll get fired from life. I think it'll turn blue. You'll get fired from life. I'll say some outrageous shit. What a shitty dad.
Starting point is 00:28:57 It's good, dude. That's good. Roy Wonderboy. That's interesting, man. It may happen. It may not. Who knows? We'll find out soon.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Connor Wonderboy. Shit. Connor Wonderboy. Here's the thing. It's a match. You got to kick with Wonderboy, that's interesting, man. It may happen. It may not. Who knows? We'll find out soon. Connor Wonderboy, shit. Connor Wonderboy. Here's the thing. You got to kick with Wonderboy, and Connor's kicks are just nowhere near the level of Wonderboy's. It's just not even in the same. You sure about that? His hands are better.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I'm 100% sure about that. His hands are better than Wonderboy's, I think. And Wonderboy's got some fucking vicious hands. How tall is Wonderboy? He just doesn't have the knockout power. What Connor has in that left hand is what Firas Ahabi likes to call the touch of death. At 145. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:27 55 and 70. You're talking about bigger boys. He was knocking motherfuckers dead at 155 with one punch. He was doing it all throughout England. I mean, I don't know if he could do that in the UFC at 155. Different level. Dos Anjos is a big motherfucker. You are right.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Dos Anjos is a beast. But I believe the kind of power that Conor has, he just has that undeniable power. Preach. Because I hope he does. Preach. It's undeniable. I just don't know if he's going to be able to do it. Because here's the thing about Dos Anjos.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Dos Anjos is a gap closer. That motherfucker closes gaps on you before you even realize he's on top of you. He did it to Donald and he did it to Pettis. Two guys who are pretty fucking skillful strikers. He closes that distance on you in a surprising way. And there's no hesitation. No hesitation. His grappling is outstanding.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And there's no hesitation in his game. And with that Nick Curzon dude training him, man, he's got 15 gas tanks. They're all ready. They're all ready to go. Is he a movement coach, though? He's the movement coach. They're doing all these crazy plyometric drills.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Everything is plyometric drills. Everything is plyometrics. And then you've got, you know, you've got fucking, he's got King's MMA, right? Oh, with Cordero? Yeah, Rafael Cordero is one of the greatest striking instructors in the world. He's got Fabrizio Verdum there. He's got a shitload of animals to train with. No, he's a complete animal. Honestly, as far as matchup-wise, when you break the fight down, I can't think of a worse
Starting point is 00:30:45 matchup for Conor. Now, he beats him. They're both in their prime. If he beats him, he goes right to Robbie Lawler for UFC 200. And the world explodes. Dude, if he beats him, he'd be the greatest UFC fighter of all time. Yes. Of all time. Yes, ever. Here's an argument that I was having with somebody.
Starting point is 00:31:01 This is a discussion. This is a legit question. Mighty Mouse right now, do you agree he's the best pound for pound guy? No, too small. Do you think John Jones is? Sorry, brother. Yes. How dare you? How dare you?
Starting point is 00:31:11 But that's what pound for pound is. It's too small because the risk, the risk to reward, he can make mistakes. He's destroying the competition. But he couldn't make mistakes with Dodson. Dodson could knock you dead with one shot. Different. Different than John Jones, Gustafson, DC. Well, different than Rumble.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Rumble. I disagree with Gustafson. I don't think Gustafson knocks you dead with one punch any easier. Different than John Jones, Gustafson, DC. Well, different than Rumble. Rumble. I disagree with Gustafson. I don't think Gustafson knocks you dead with one punch any easier than Dodson does. Matter of fact, I think Dodson offers more danger on the feet.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I disagree. Okay. But we're allowed to. Yeah, that's what we're here for. So at 125. You can be wrong. That's fine. Okay, so at the very least,
Starting point is 00:31:39 he's number two pound for pound best in the world. I agree. Okay. All right. I think he's number one. A lot of other people think he's number one, including Boss Rooten, but what the fuck's
Starting point is 00:31:46 he know, right? So Joe Rogan, Boss Rooten. It makes sense. So if Cejudo beats him, he's an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling. So he becomes the first Olympic gold medalist in wrestling that wins a flyweight title. Okay. And he beats arguably the best guy ever. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:06 If Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson is the best guy right now, and you've fought him before. Yes. I know you look at him like today, and you look at what he's been able to do over his last few fights, it's hard to argue a more dominant champion. He doesn't get hit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:18 He doesn't get hit by the best guys in the world. Donald Cruz beat him. Yes, a long time ago at 135. He was a different fighter then. I'm just saying. Ian arguably won as well. I'll tell you that. That's why he's not
Starting point is 00:32:28 my pound for pound number one. But that's a long time ago. So those guys got choked out by Clay Guida. Who's John Jones lost to? It's true. He lost to a shitty rule. He lost to a shitty rule.
Starting point is 00:32:37 He didn't even lose to Matt Hamill. He fucked him up. He lost to a shitty rule. The rule beat him. He was crushing. I'm saying he's never going to be talked about
Starting point is 00:32:44 as a loss. Didn't he separate his clavicle or something off that fucking dump he did on Hamill? I don't know. No, he separated his fucking elbow driving into his orbital. That was brutal. But a total dominant performance, you can never call that a loss. And I don't give a fuck what planet
Starting point is 00:32:58 you're on. We haven't seen John lose like DJ. We haven't seen John get so close like a fight with Ian McCall. That's true. That's why you're not my number one. Gustafson. It's a good argument.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Not really. It's a good argument. I think John's the best, but DJ's definitely out there. DJ's a fucking machine. Oh, DJ's top three for sure. Here's my question. If Cejudo beats him, is he like the best combat sport athlete ever? Who the fuck has ever beaten him?
Starting point is 00:33:22 No, he had work to do. He's got work to do for sure. But if he can beat the best guy ever beaten... No, he has work to do. He's got work to do, for sure. But if he can beat... You'd have to defend it. If he can beat the best guy ever, is it a Styles... I mean, like, arguably, if you're looking at someone who's an Olympic gold medalist and then becomes a world champion in the UFC, that's one of the greatest...
Starting point is 00:33:36 That's a massive resume. Like, as far as, like, accomplishments on paper, the only thing that comes close is Alistair winning the K-1 Grand Prix if he won the UFC title. If Alistair won the K1 Grand Prix, he won Strikeforce. He was a Strikeforce heavyweight champion.
Starting point is 00:33:50 He was a dream heavyweight champion. And arguably in MMA, Alistair is one of, if not the most, one of the most decorated guys in all sports. By far. K1 Grand Prix is the pinnacle. The pinnacle of heavyweight kickboxing. So if Cejudo wins a gold fucking medal in the Olympic Games and then goes on to win UFC gold,
Starting point is 00:34:10 he's right up there with one of the most accomplished mixed martial arts athletes ever. He definitely could be, and they should be marketing the fuck out of him to Mexico. Oh, yeah. I hope they are. They fucking better be. You know what? CM Punk's taking all the money. It's fucking tough.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Stop it. It's hard to sell. Stop it. It's too easy. Why is it hard to sell the flyweights. Stop it. It's hard to sell. Stop it. It's too easy. Why is it hard to sell the flyweights? Ian, why is it hard to sell your weight class? I don't know. People are-
Starting point is 00:34:31 But yet Ronda's the- She's 135 too. Small isn't it. Yeah, I know. She's bigger than us. She makes more money. He's 125. 125.
Starting point is 00:34:38 135. He's smaller than Ronda. He probably doesn't even know what weight you're fighting. That's why me and Ronda will never fight. It's because she weighs more than me. That's rude. This is a- It's a strange- It's because she weighs more than me. This is a strange phenomenon because
Starting point is 00:34:48 in boxing, it's the same thing. In boxing, you get to Chocolito. Chocolatito? Yeah, Chocolatito. That motherfucker is so fucking bad. He's knocking bitches out. Donair never really He was just a little too small.
Starting point is 00:35:03 He was a bad motherfucker. People just don't buy into it, right? They just don't buy into it. Donair had some sting, man. When he was in his prime, Nonito Donair can crack. Is it because you want, when you think of fighters, you think of like heroes,
Starting point is 00:35:14 you know what I'm saying? You want a guy to be able to beat your ass. You want a guy to be big, yeah. Because people look at you and they're like, Ian McCall, you would rip their dick off. Yeah, you would rip their fucking face off.
Starting point is 00:35:24 You know what I'm saying? Well, in the real world. But the problem is, when people are watching this shit, everybody thinks that they can kick ass when they watch this stuff. It's one- Chris Camozzi, Joe Riggs. Joe Riggs. Just doing the damn thing forever.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Doesn't give a fuck. Doesn't give a fuck. Tell you what, you want to talk about a world beater in the gym? I've heard stories about Joe Riggs back when Rich Franken was a champion. And people were saying if Joe Riggs could fight in the octagon the way he spars sometimes, like he catches these rhythms, where, I mean, he's got, back then especially, he's had a rough career.
Starting point is 00:35:53 You know, he's been in a lot of fights, and he's had a long, long time. Up and down. Inside the octagon and other organizations. He's been around. Joe Riggs is a fucking real veteran. He used to be 300 pounds. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:02 But when he was on fire, like when he was at his best, they were saying he was like hell on wheels in the gym. People were like, if he could just get it together, he's a fucking world champion. Dude, Chris Camosi's a motherfucker. Tough as shit. In the Denver scene, he was like the guy coming up. He was like the man, like the journeyman.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And I never trained with him, and he was a southpaw, and we couldn't find any southpaws when I was getting ready to fight Crow Cop. So they bring Kamoze in, the nicest guy ever, and his coach goes, hey, listen, man, you're a lot bigger than Chris, but he moves, and you need a southpaw, so your coach calls, we're going to bring him down. But he has a fight. It's his first UFC fight.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I think he was fighting Australia on like a two-week notice. And they go, make sure you don't hurt him. I've never hurt anyone really in my life. I'm like, yeah, no problem, man. For whatever reason, 30 seconds into it, I go to throw a hook, and he charges into it, break his nose. Literally 30 seconds. Oh, no. So his first UFC fight, he had a broken nose. I don't know if he won, but he went through, I think, a decision.
Starting point is 00:36:57 He's a tough motherfucker, man. Yeah, he's very tough. He's very tough. That's a hard thing in camp, right? Very tough. He's very tough. That's a hard thing in camp, right? How hard is it for guys like you where you have to work with lighter guys or guys like you who have to work with heavier guys? Like we always say that the jujitsu guys that have the best technique are the guys who are the smaller guys. That's every sport. Yeah, that's every sport.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Yeah, like Eddie's style is like your style was based a lot on when you didn't lift weights. Yes, based on weakness. Eddie's style is, like, your style is based a lot on when you didn't lift weights. Yes. Based on weakness. But you think about guys like Barrett Yoshida. You think about Hoyler. Like, the smaller guys are known to have, like, this razor, razor, the Mendez brothers, razor-sharp technique, right? And, you know, those guys. They have to.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah. If you're trained for an MMA fight, how often did you have to spar guys that were, like, way heavier than you? You're trained for an MMA fight. How often did you have to spar guys that were way heavier than you? Oh, we've been... I've been manicured for so long that it's been a while. Do you get anything out of it, though? You know, when you're going with a real big guy, you're so small. No, that's what I'm saying. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:37:55 What are you saying by manicure? You mean like they take care of your camp much more efficiently than that? Yeah, we have so many because it's me and Carla. Right. As spars under one roof. Oh, gotcha. And Colin Oyama's... You know, he was Tito's coach. He's been around forever.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Rampage has been around forever. Very respected. Yeah, and then Jason House, my agent, always has guys in the gym. There's just tons of guys. Small guys. Small guys. And we have 50 people that, you know, can fight amateur level to pro, and they're all under 150.
Starting point is 00:38:20 That's the advantage of being small. That's the advantage. Yeah, we have small. You know what? Well, in his camp, it's an advantage. In everyone's camp. The small guys are everywhere. I hate, you know, small guys are everywhere.
Starting point is 00:38:30 My school's filled with small guys. It's filled with small guys. Big guys? If you're a heavyweight? Small guys that are willing to fight MMA? But you know what? In MMA and in boxing, we were talking about earlier, you know, we want to watch bigger guys.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I think maybe we want to watch bigger guys because bigger guys hit harder and bigger guys get knocked out easier and little guys, it's hard to knock out little guys because in Jiu Jitsu we'd rather watch the little guys because the little guys can choke out. They're
Starting point is 00:38:57 generally more technical and you see more submissions with the little guys. The big guys, you see a bunch of dudes just holding and shitting. Is it possible that like, okay, how about when Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson knocked out Benavidez with one punch? I think if we saw that more often, I think if little guys got knocked out. I don't think it still works. I think if little guys got knocked out easier than big guys or more than big guys, we would like the little guys. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:39:20 It's just not fair. It's the pure mass. When's the last time you saw a small guy in a porno even in everything Think about it even if pornos they're fucking big like bigger dudes. Thank you about it. This is what I'm thinking So I thought they were smaller with regular dicks so that they lit the dick look bigger than another big boys small big boys Psychologically if you watch someone and even if he beats up someone who's smaller than you, if you can say in your head, even if you're wrong, if you can say in your head, couldn't do that to me, then you're not as impressed.
Starting point is 00:39:51 It's like when you watch Rumble put someone in orbit. There's nothing he can do. You see Rumble hit people and put them in orbit, and you just go, oh, fuck, I got to get out of this room. I just don't want to be here. Yeah, it's a totally different appeal because he's so fucking powerful at 205 that you're like, well, that would definitely work on me. They go 125, he weighs less than my girlfriend. Is there a little guy? Is there a 125-er that has heavy conner hands?
Starting point is 00:40:17 Is there anybody like that? Just drop him. Lineker, but he couldn't make the weight. Oh, my God. Lineker's a murderer. Lineker hits fucking hard. He drops. That would have been the best fight on this card. He fought weight. He's dropping people. Oh, my God. Lineker's a murderer. Lineker hits fucking hard. He drops. That would have been the best fight on this card.
Starting point is 00:40:27 That's what the... He fought him. He fought Lineker. He could blow the division up. Because in boxing, Chiquita Gonzalez. Remember? Yeah. Chiquita against Michael Carbaugh back in the day.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yes. Those were huge pay-per-view matches. Those guys were 115 pounds. Yeah, but you know what? Because they were throwing bombs, those guys. That was also on TV. They put them on regular TV, like ABC Wide World of Sports and shit like that. It was pay-per-view.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah, but to build them up. Didn't Carbajal fight on all that stuff? Did he fight on TV? They used to do a lot more of that back then, for sure. They're going back to it now. Carbajal also had a huge following. He was a Phoenix guy, right? Didn't he have a gigantic following in Phoenix?
Starting point is 00:41:05 Something Phoenix or Mexico. It's weird how many Pacquiao. Carbajal was a Phoenix guy right didn't have a gigantic following in Phoenix It's weird Well think about many Macchio many bad big fights man, that's true Manny Pacquiao fights at 47 Right, but he started his career eight weight classes lower 18. He was like a flyweight if you're knocking people out I want to see what you weigh. We what you weigh. We need a dude to come in. Jose Aldo, small guy, I mean, considering. He knocks the fuck out of people. That's what people want to see. He still didn't get respect, though.
Starting point is 00:41:33 That motherfucker didn't lose in nine years, and they had to sell him to us against Conor. No fala ingles. That's just the way the world is. In America. The world is wacky, dude. It don't make any sense. Well, there's a lot more to being a star than just knocking people out. And just winning.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Conor's got it all. He's winning. He's knocking everybody out with one punch. He talks good. He looks good. And he wears suits. He's got the fucking crazy hipster shoes on. Shit, I was crunk for a daughter.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Oh, shit. Come on. Crack Joe Riggs. Oh, shit. It's a wrap. Nobody can take that. Nobody can take that. Dude, stop the fight.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. Damn, Kamozi with the crushing knees. He's been in and out of the UFC, too. Damn, that was brutal. That was like, who did Ben Saunders do that to? Remember that back in the day? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:17 That was nasty. Ben's was even brutaler. Ben's was even more brutal because it was all the forehead. The guy blocked it all with his face. Ben had an actual thigh clench. The guy just wasn't covering up. He was just getting the shitting out of him was a real tough marine i remember i think i think he was in the military but dude was tough as fuck and just ate those shots remember that like yesterday that dude fucks him up that dude was
Starting point is 00:42:37 fucking tough and that was one of the things i was gonna say man if it wasn't for like in your last fight with uh um what's his name? Lineker. When Lineker didn't make weight. Dude, you took some fucking shots in that fight. Guys that are not as tough as you. I was like, holy shit. Like, as a friend, that was a hard one to watch.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Because, like, in the second round, I think, is when he hit you with some fucking vicious body shots. He hit you with some really hard bombs. Was it the second or the third? I don't know. There was a moment in that fight where I was like, oh, Jesus. How long ago was that? He rocked me in the third. Is it the third?
Starting point is 00:43:13 How hard does that motherfucker hit? Really hard. Like, creepy hard, right? Yeah. Like, weird. I don't know if it's, my coach says it's because, you know, it's because I died. But same with me and my other training partner and coach, Romeo Danza. He died getting shot.
Starting point is 00:43:28 So we both kind of a weird tolerance to pain. Whoa. And not getting knocked out. And wham. And I just remember going like, holy shit, man. Like everything went, whoa. Don't come after me. Don't come after me, please.
Starting point is 00:43:42 When Francisco Rivera just decided to stand and bang with him. And he's another dude I really like. That's my good friend. Good friend. I love that dude. And I think he got a raw deal in the Uriah Fairey fight. The referee should have stopped that when the eye poke happened. It was an obvious eye poke.
Starting point is 00:43:56 But I never thought he would do that. I thought he would move and use his skills and light him up. I don't know, man. Maybe he just got hit and he just wanted to hit him back. Who knows? When you train with Sisko in the gym,
Starting point is 00:44:09 all of a sudden he starts kicking and you're like, what the fuck? He has a sick, diverse, super technical, open,
Starting point is 00:44:16 like, beautiful hip rotation and everything on all kinds of kicks. Spin kicks, jump kicks. Wow. And then all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:44:22 you crack him and he's just fucking plants there and wants to punch you in the face. A lot of guys are like that. He's fun though, man. I then all of a sudden, you crack him, and he's just fucking plants there, and once he punches you in the face. A lot of guys are like that. He's fun, though, man. I love watching that dude fight, but I felt like, man, he got a raw deal in the Faber
Starting point is 00:44:32 fight, you know? That's tough. And then to stand right in front of Glendrick like that and just throw down in his next fight, like, this is crazy. I wonder if he just thought that he could get him. I think he did. Yeah. I think that's what it came down to.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Dude, Lineker. I don't know. Spooky. He's spooky. Spooky. That was my favorite fight on this card. Yeah. Cody versus Lineker.
Starting point is 00:44:51 That's a fucking barn burner. Dengue took that shit away from us. That's fucking bad. That mosquito said, not on my watch, son. Who do shit? He seems to be just as heavy-handed at 135, which made this fight so fucking interesting. Still a great match, though. Cody knocks dudes out.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Oh, yeah. It's still a great match. It's not just some average guy from Illinois. This guy beat Jafa Mendes. Although, like, by an advantage or something like that, but still, just to even tie with Jafa Mendes, to tie that mother, to keep Jafa Mendes from tapping you is huge.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Like, you survived. No, it's cool, but I don't see someone get punched in the face. But that was in the gi, and he's, you know, so I don't know if all this jiu-jitsu is going to translate to MMA. We're going to see, you know, but. Fucking poor Joe Riggs, man. I hate seeing that.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Well, man, you know what? Kamozi did what he wanted to do, and Riggs didn't get a chance to do it. Look, his arm is fucked up, man. He's holding his arm. Think about how many knees he took that he blocked on that arm. What are the odds that arm is broken? Pretty high, right? I would say 85%.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Damn, 26 seconds. You got hit with some bombs there. You got hit with some bombs. I hate seeing those events like that, man. It's a rough sport, my man. Yes, it is. Definitely don't have to tell you. How's your shoulder, brother?
Starting point is 00:46:04 It's fucked up. Is it? I probably shouldn't say anything. you How's your shoulder brother? It's fucked up I probably shouldn't say anything But an arm popped again this week How long are you out for? What does that mean? I had surgery 8 months ago I had a fully torn bicep tendon Two labral tears and a fully torn rotator cuff
Starting point is 00:46:18 So they redid the whole thing Carla actually had her labrum done A week before me And my doctor was like oh yeah we'll have it done just like hers same shit and after I remember I'm sitting there he called me a couple days later he's like so how you doing I'm like oh dude
Starting point is 00:46:32 did you fucking tap dance on my shoulder like what the fuck and then he told me you know everything he had to do and then I had stem cell put in it thank you Dr. Thermos and it's really fucking strong. My arm is strong. But all of a sudden I'll be moving and I'll throw it and it'll just boom.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And I'm like, fucking, that'll hurt. It won't feel good and I'll kind of just keep shadowboxing. Well, it's been eight months. I throw a punch the other day doing movement drills around this ball. And it just popped and I just fell to the ground holding it. It popped like it came out of socket? No, no. I just felt the pop somewhere in my bicep to middle of my arm region.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Did you get it checked out yet? Yeah. And they can't feel it. No bruising? No MRI? I mean, did you get an MRI? They're going to wait. See, but I fractured and dislocated this elbow wrestling.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I've had three surgeries on this hand, two breaks. I've had a bad infection in this arm. I got two bulging discs. Doing well. By now you have two bulging discs? Yeah, this side of my body is kind of fucked up. Totally probably related. The bulging discs are in your neck then? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Three and four, four and five. That's right where the ulna nerve was. For me, my issues with my neck went all the way down to my fingers Do you get any numbing in your fingers? Yeah? Yeah, I went I see doctor. Hey, man. I see doctor But uh yeah now I like I told my mom a fucking month ago. She's like are you gonna keep doing this? I'm like no Yes, I'm back. You know well. She's a girl. Is that his girl?
Starting point is 00:48:02 I don't know that might be his mom Sister? He's young as fuck, that's his mom What a handsome fella He needs a new haircut Why? It's like Don Kings It's a white, young Don Kings If he's really a male model He would have a different haircut
Starting point is 00:48:20 The MMA community is so connected Everybody into MMA knows Sage lost and everyone's making fun of him now. You know what I mean? That's like the general consensus. Ah, fuck him. You know, it's crazy. He's a good guy. He seems like a real good guy.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I didn't make fun of anyone anyways. I didn't make fun of him. I thought it was a legit. I didn't think he tapped quick. I thought the guy put a good choke on him. I tap people with their arm like that all the time. I don't think it was a quick tap. It was legit. That guy had a good squeeze on him.
Starting point is 00:48:50 His hate comes from he got so much hype and he got paid so much more than other vets. So other fighters are kind of like, what the fuck, man? But think if you're him. If you're him, you're like, dude, I didn't ask for this. Dana was like, here's your contract. I was like, fuck yeah. It's not my fault I'm shredded.
Starting point is 00:49:05 He's beautiful. here's your contract. It was like, fuck yeah. It's not my fault I'm shredded. He's beautiful. Are people really concerned? He's so handsome. Are people really concerned that the other fighters are jealous? I don't think people are. The fighters are. So when the fighters put that out, like your boy Tony Ferguson, right? Like when the fighters put that out, then the fans go, yeah, fuck that guy.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Well, it's a natural reaction. When someone's that beautiful, they have so many advantages. It's not nice. It doesn't feel reaction. When someone's that beautiful, they have so many advantages. It's not nice. It doesn't feel good. People want to buy you things. A guy who's got, I mean, all due respect, but Brian Barbarina, his body don't look nothing like that. He has a regular athlete's body. So with a regular guy's body.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Worse than a regular athlete's body. How dare you? I'm trying not to say dad bod. But how about Tony Ferguson versus Mega Meta? He whooped his ass. He whooped his ass. And, you know, they were all telling me
Starting point is 00:49:49 after the fight, I said, does he tap guys like that all the time? And they're like, yeah, his squeeze is ridiculous. They say he has a sick squeeze. Kavanaugh was telling me
Starting point is 00:49:56 he gets guys in that position and just taps everybody. He apparently has like this insane head and arm closure. You know, some guys get that. Some guys just have that nasty. He didn't even try to pass the guard. He wasn't trying to pass or improve his body position on that choke.
Starting point is 00:50:13 When you see that and you stay in sub positions where you don't get the ultimate squeeze, but you do control their body, that's when you know a guy knows what he's doing. If he's got to get all the way side control and lay on his stomach and start twisting, you got to do all that to squeeze that, to get a tap out of that? To me, that's amateur. What he did, that was pro. He stayed in the mount. He stayed in half guard.
Starting point is 00:50:37 He didn't even try to pass. I'm going to stay right here and tap you. And the Sage kid, he really did legitimately 100% have strep throat, and he was in the hospital two days before that fight. So just imagine that. And antibiotics. And antibiotics. But just imagine having strep throat and having someone clamp down on your neck.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I mean, you're already inflamed and fucked up. That explains the quick tap. 100%. And you know what, man? He's a kid. He's 19 years old. He's 19 years old, and he's in there kicking ass. And how much pussy's coming his way?
Starting point is 00:51:07 I mean, is it even measurable? He jacks off to the Bible, though. He doesn't touch him. You're fucking up, son. Because in 10 years, he's going to be like, God damn it. How long is that going to fucking last? Come on. Me and Big Brown will teach you the slang dick.
Starting point is 00:51:19 That can't last. Come on out, brother. That really can't last. So what do you think of that Tony Ferguson versus Magomedov? I don't know. It's amazing. It's a motherfucking. It's amazing. That really can't last. So what do you think of that Tony Ferguson versus Magomedov? It's amazing. It's a motherfucking... That's amazing. That's fucking monstrous.
Starting point is 00:51:28 You know what I said when I did the countdown show? I said this easily could be a world championship fight. Easy. One of these guys easily... Either guy could be the champion. Either guy could be the challenger. This is a legit world championship caliber fight. The X-Factor's...
Starting point is 00:51:40 Habib's body, whether he's healthy. How's he going to perform taking all this time off? And Tony's a motherfucker to fight for. And Tony's hard to manhandle. Like, Magomedov is used to manhandling. Tony's hard to do that with Tony. And Tony's striking has gotten so goddamn good. Magomedov, if he gets a hold of Tony, Tony's going for a ride.
Starting point is 00:52:01 But that's not going to faze Tony. You know Tony wrestled in college. No, I trained with Tony. He's all funk Tony He's all funk He's all funk When it comes to wrestling And heart You have a perfect
Starting point is 00:52:09 Symmetrical wrestler Who does everything correct Over and over and over And then all of a sudden You have Tony Yeah Who has great fucking basics But he's also hitting that
Starting point is 00:52:18 Wild ass Grammy roll From every position I wrestled like that guy And it was fucking Boom boom boom boom boom So you know What wheels can catch on faster, I think it's going to be. Called wild cards. What Nurmagomedov loves to do is control.
Starting point is 00:52:31 He gets you on top and he beats the fuck out of you and holds you in place. But Tony's so dynamic. I don't know if he's going to be able to hold him down the way he's been able to hold other people down. And not be in trouble. And you can see guys when they fight Habib where they break. You can see where they're just like, this motherfucker's going to do this. How about Dos Anjos? Yes, exactly. He's a rag doll. Able to heal. Able to heal. Completely fucking broke. You can see guys when they fight Habib where they break. You can see where they're just like, this motherfucker's going to do this. How about Dos Anjos? Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:46 He ragdolled the world champ. Abel Trujillo. Abel Trujillo. You can see him. Wait, he beat Dos Anjos? Yes. Oh, beat the fuck up. He beat him.
Starting point is 00:52:53 He ragdolled him. Ragdolled him. Granted, it was a few years back. I did not remember that. Ragdolled him. Yeah. That's huge. He gets a hold of you.
Starting point is 00:52:59 You're going for a ride. He's got the best grappling in the division. He's a monster. Did you know about his dad? Yeah, his dad's a serious fucking Sambo coach. Long article about how awesome his fucking dad is and family is. I was like, I knew I liked these guys.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Technical as fuck. Everything's perfect. But he's had so many injuries. Horrible injuries, too. How horrible? ACL, MCL. He's blown his knees out. He blew his back out. That changes? ACL, MCL, knees. Yeah, he's blown his knees out. He blew his back out.
Starting point is 00:53:28 That changes everything when you come back from that. Like you're shot. Especially when you fight a guy like Tony. Right? Yeah. Because in football, you know, when you come back from one knee surgery, you may never be the same. If you're a running back or a quarterback that scrambles, that's what happens to all the quarterbacks that scramble. They're doing great in college and they survive.
Starting point is 00:53:43 But as soon as they get hurt in the pros, man, now they've got to stay in the pocket. Their knees are shot, and that's where they fucking fall. And MMA is way more demanding than that on your knees. Yeah, especially when you're avoiding things. Someone's throwing head kicks your way, or you're trying to stuff a takedown, and you're sprawling and trying to turn
Starting point is 00:54:00 while someone's driving towards you. That's why if you have a body that's prone to injury, especially if you've wrestled your whole life and it starts to build up like a cane, man, that motherfucker can't stay healthy for nothing. That's exactly what I was going to say. But I think Nurmagomedov, it's not a coincidence that they're all in the same camp.
Starting point is 00:54:16 And it's also not a coincidence they have at least three champions out of that fucking gym and two current. I mean, that gym, AKA, is. I mean, AKA is a monster house. It's a monster house. But they're also getting guys with a lot of miles on them. Like DC has miles.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Kane has some motherfucking miles. Nagamedov has crazy miles. Luke Rockhold's got a nice, sweet odometer, though, baby. Full tank of gas. That motherfucker's young. He's the new Tesla. Yeah, he's a Tesla, son. He's new.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I was going to call him a Prius, but he's not a Prius. He's a Tesla. He's a muscle car. No, he's the new Tesla Yeah he's a Tesla I was gonna call him a Prius But he's not a Prius He's a Tesla He's a muscle car He's the newest thing He's like a dope Mach 1 Mustang And can't that old Firebird
Starting point is 00:54:52 With a surfboard rack on top Yeah Well I think that a guy like him Is the future You know Fuck yeah Especially Like he's
Starting point is 00:54:59 In that division He's so unusual Because he's a wrestler He's got really good jiu jitsu His top game's insane He's tall He a wrestler. He's got really good jiu-jitsu. His top game's insane. He's tall. He kicks hard.
Starting point is 00:55:12 But he's got a good balance between being strong and being long. Like some long guys, they're just not as strong. Anderson was always a long guy but not a strong guy. You know what I mean? Like Anderson's never manhandled anybody the way Rockhold can manhandle you. You see what he did to Liotto. You see what he did to Lyoto. Yes. You see what he did to Weidman when he gets him on the ground. Those long guys that are strong like that, John Jones is the poster boy.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yes, he's the master. Because people say how long he is, you get in a clinch with him, and I've wrestled with John, and it's like, what planet is this dude from? What the fuck? You can totally see. You can totally see. It's embarrassing. When DC was fighting him, and he took DC down that first round, DC was like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:55:45 DC's face was like, ah, fuck, son. He was like, fuck. He's strong as fuck. He threw me across a room one time. The one night I hung out with John. I haven't hung out with John since. John threw me across a room on October. You know me, I'm the number one fan of John, but I love how everyone's like, no, he's changed.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Why? Because on Instagram he's posting videos of working out and shit. Let's buy the narrative, Mr. Shaw. I'm buying he's the baddest motherfucker on the planet, and he's swole now. Good luck beating that dude. Yeah. Fuck me. That's all I'm buying.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah. What was that supplement he was taking? I really want some of that. I don't know. I don't know. It's good stuff. There's something in the magazine. Something.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I don't know. I don't know. Bermudez versus Kawajiri. Ooh. Good fight. Kawajiri. This is actually a very good fight. Kawajiri was a motherfucker in Japan, man.
Starting point is 00:56:31 A legend. Yeah. Remember Bermudez was on, I think, a seven or eight fight win streak? Well, Kawajiri's had some tough fights in MMA period because the first big one he had was with Melendez, and it was back when Zufa had purchased Strikeforce, and they reinstated elbows. Remember that? Oh, he got fucked up.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Gilbert took him down, and it was the first time that Gilbert did a Strikeforce career. I was there. That was in San Diego. Yeah. Yeah, I was there ringside. Was that San Diego?
Starting point is 00:56:57 It was the first time, I think, in Strikeforce where they allowed elbows on the ground, because when Gilbert had been fighting before, even though he's a wrestler, he couldn't use elbows on the ground. Because when Gilbert had been fighting before, even though he's a wrestler, he couldn't use elbows on the ground. They had like a pride similar rule set before the UFC bought it. Was that San Diego or San Jose?
Starting point is 00:57:12 I don't know. I don't remember. I watched it on TV, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I remember watching it. It was awesome. I think it was San Diego. Was it? You realize how important elbows are.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Oh, game changer. And when guys fought their whole career without elbows, and then all of a sudden they use elbows, they get more of a guy like Gilbert. It's a huge weapon for him because he's wrestling so good. He's so strong. He's on top of you. He's smashing you with elbows.
Starting point is 00:57:34 It's way better than punching you, right? And so it goes from that to he had a couple tough fights after that. When you have a beat down like that Gilbert Melendez fight. Dude, look at Junior Dos Santos. Yeah. Just never the same. He's fighting Rothwell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Dude, the heavyweights have some fucking fights. We haven't even talked about it. Orlowski, Overeem. Jesus, yeah. They train at the same camp. These motherfuckers said, now, neither of us are going anywhere. We're going to train at the same camp and fight each other. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Hey, terrible idea, fellas. But I guess you're come in at different times. How do they work that? How do you game plan it? How's Greg Jackson game plan that? How do you? You got to game plan a draw. Yeah, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:58:12 Do you like each guy? Does each guy have like one member of the crew he takes as his corner guy? Training partners? How's it work? Training partners? How does it work? Especially heavyweights at Jackson's. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:58:21 You're all kind of a crew. What if they sparred? Like every day lean up to it? What if they sparred? Like every day leading up to it? What if they sparred to help each other get sharp to fight each other?
Starting point is 00:58:30 It'd be brilliant. The nerves wouldn't be there as much. Right, but who would say yes to that? Who would say no to that? Who would say no to that?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Overeem would probably say no to that, right? Overeem for sure. He's a serial killer, yeah. Yeah. But do you think Arlovsky would say no to that Overeem for sure He's a serial killer Yeah But do you think Do you think Arlovsky Would say no to that
Starting point is 00:58:46 Yeah He's that Russian Fucking assassin They're both You know so prideful That's a crazy fight I thought Arlovsky Hated me forever
Starting point is 00:58:55 When we trained together But no he's just kind of quiet He's a great guy When they That's a good fight If they If they train together Like how long do you think
Starting point is 00:59:03 They've trained together How many years now? Shit. What, three? Three years? Yeah. So they had to have done a lot of sport. But if anyone's going to leave, it's going to be Overeem because Orlovsky's been there
Starting point is 00:59:13 way longer. Really? Yeah. Because Overeem came from the Black Zillions. Orlovsky was there four years before that. Orlovsky was there when I was there. That's right. And Orlovsky, back when they first started working with him, everybody thought he was
Starting point is 00:59:24 done. Yeah, and this motherfucker was about to fight for a title before he fought Stipe. That's so crazy. So crazy. And then what else? Oh, and then they're doing Verdum-Stipe in Brazil, is what I heard. This fucking show looks so bad, it looks like it's fake. Blind spot.
Starting point is 00:59:42 It really looks like it's fake. Are you watching Better Call better call song no is it awesome oh shit what's that on it's a it's a prequel of breaking bad it's breaking bad but the story of of the lawyer i can't get into breaking bad yeah i don't like tweakers man oh what was that i don't like tweakers tweakers meth heads meth meth people who do fucking meth yeah that's what the show's about did you have been as you watch all places in bed? Did you yeah, no I didn't watch the whole thing. I didn't watch the end I didn't end up breaking bad no last couple seasons anyone shit
Starting point is 01:00:14 I can't get into I watch one of the first two same thing for me I want the first one and didn't start watching it for another five years. I need a show to watch, but nobody's good It's really fucking good. You're gonna get addicted. I did the same thing. Watched the first episode and I walked away. Teach yourself drugs. I'm all set. Teach yourself drugs. I'm all set. That's nothing for me, man. I've been balled deep in documentaries.
Starting point is 01:00:36 You know what's a great documentary that I just passed up? There was a new release on Netflix called Cartel Land and I thought it sounds like a shit. Come on, son. That's been out forever. Dude, have you seen it? Yes. Holy shit! Goddamn American.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I almost didn't watch it because of Cartel Land. That sounds like some B-movie about some... Frozen. Frozen. How about the one, and this isn't a spoiler alert, there's one guy who, he represents the people. He's like, we're not letting these cartel people come in, take our fucking villages.
Starting point is 01:01:08 So all the civilians, he joins them. He's like this dude with a mustache. Yes. They leave this motherfucker mic'd up. And he's going to give a speech. He's like, I got to make a stop. He goes to the side piece house. And he goes, yeah, bueno, bueno. And this bitch is just sucking his dick.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Just sucking his dick. He comes out. He's like, all right, ready to go. And they've been showing his wife and kids. It's like, hey, man, let's edit that shit out. Hey, but it's the best part of the movie. Him just going, bueno. But, but.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Listen, listen. What is he doing? He's not doing Gandhi shit. He's telling everybody, everybody, we all need machine guns. We're going to drive the cartel out of our city So they decided to all fucking they got strapped all the cowboy and it was a spoiler alert. No, no, no No, this is the beginning. No, no, it's a long dude. There's a lot of shit that happens You know
Starting point is 01:02:00 He's fighting cartels, right? I'm just saying he had a side piece. They show his wife and kids the whole time. I know, but I'm saying- And you're like, this dude's a hero. I wanna watch this thing. I wanna watch this. Oh, it's incredible. I won't tell you the end. The basis of it, a lot of shit happens.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Did you see it? No. Did you see it? Yes, I did. You did? I don't wanna ruin it for him completely. No, this is the beginning. I'm talking about the end.
Starting point is 01:02:21 It's about a guy. It's about a guy who- Somebody get the middle for me. Who gets His Don't film the middle for Joe Because you skipped the beginning and the end Bermuda's and Cowboys The hero hooks up with his side piece at the end
Starting point is 01:02:32 So the dick sucks So Five stars by Eddie Bravo How many stars? Oh shit One of the greatest documentaries That's aggressive Eddie
Starting point is 01:02:40 Eddie Eddie It's incredible I give it a four out of five I give it a fucking nine. God damn, you're crunk right now. You're also the guy that loved the Hoist Gracie fight, though. Yeah, let's figure.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I was just about to ask that. What was that out of five? What did Hoist do everything right? He did everything right. Dada and Kimbo, what was that? Oh, that was like, they should have called it a special street match or something. That's a strong no for me. They should have said, okay, we're going to show this for pure entertainment value.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Everyone laughed. But it's not MMA. It's just two dudes as brawls. You know what I say you do? I think you put Dada and Kimbo and let Justin Redd fight both at the same time. Oh, God. If they're going to do shit shows, let's get real here. Well, I don't think they thought that was going to be as bad as it was.
Starting point is 01:03:23 No, they thought Kimbo was going to knock him out in the first round. Well, I don't think they thought that was going to be as bad as it was. No, they thought Kimbo was going to knock him out in the first round. Well, I don't think anybody anticipated those guys would gas like that. No. That was the worst gassing in the history of gassing. If you train some of Justin's pygmies, they would be the shatterers, too. Rothwell, Mark Hunt's pretty bad in Denver. Yeah, but they had a little bit of an excuse because they were fighting at a very high altitude. And they have better technique, at least.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah, they're two really high-level fighters. Dada's titties were all over the place. Well, Dada swung some bombs, but he just had zero in the early parts of the round before Kimbo took him down. He just doesn't have enough gas. Bermudez has got his back here. He just doesn't have any gas. I mean, who knows how he's really training? I mean, let's be honest.
Starting point is 01:04:00 He's just not very good. Well, I mean, that's never been what he's doing, right? He's been doing these street fights. That's what he's been doing. Yeah, get your paper, dog. I mean, I kind of get that he wants to fight and fight legitimate, and I kind of get that he's got to take that paycheck, but I just wish he had, like, a real strength and conditioning coach
Starting point is 01:04:19 or a real trainer. You don't become Dada 5000 by hiring a real strength and conditioning coach. You don't get that haircut. You don't get that warrior haircut. But a real strength conditioning coach. You don't get that haircut. You don't get that warrior haircut. But we're here talking about him. He got that. He made some money. I'm sure he made some money. That's all he cares about. I think if he could find the backyard for the same amount of money,
Starting point is 01:04:35 he's doing it. I just wonder. You take a guy like that and you bring him to a legit place. How much did he make? I don't know. I kind of think he made some good money though. But if you took a guy like that and you brought him to a Greg Jackson or you brought him to a Mark Henry you don't think so? No.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I think he gets fucking wrecked. Maybe he just changes his attitude completely. He gets ate up like Kobayashi. That motherfucker gets tore the fuck up. Yeah but maybe he learns. Maybe he learns how to fight. We're not talking about him going in there and sparring with an in-pr prime Shane Carwin and getting fucking night I paid good money for that. Are you talking about the Brendan Shaw program?
Starting point is 01:05:11 Brendan Shaw course this dude Jerry's got him in a cradle. He'll do what CM Punk has done and he'll finally realize that this isn't a fucking good idea This is fucking college Jerry's he's on top here. Especially a vet like you, right? He was given Dennis Bermuda's a little bit of a knee to the back. I don't know. Kyle Wajiri has some good passing.
Starting point is 01:05:33 If he gets on top, he has very solid passing. You're talking about a pro's pro. Are you allowed to knee in the back? How does that work? Not to the spine. Yeah, the sides you can. Yes, sides you can, just not directly on the spine. Hard to take down.
Starting point is 01:05:48 This guy is hard to take down. Bermudez is a motherfucker. So you can hit a person right next to the spine. You can hit him right next to the spine with your knees. And when someone's on the ground, you can knee them right next to the spine. He's got 100%
Starting point is 01:06:04 on him right there. He can flip them over easy. Phenomenal takedown. Oh, he let it go. He's going to keep scrambling. Good luck getting Bermudez down. See that 100%? Mm-hmm. Damn.
Starting point is 01:06:15 You pray for those positions right there. Look at that. He has his vampire fangs. I was going to say, where did he get that? That's pretty badass. Fancy. Oh, there it is. Yeah, see?
Starting point is 01:06:24 But some referees will warn you if you get too close to the spine. We can't go 12 to 6 on the spine. You can't go 12 to 6 anywhere. Even on the thighs, they warn you about that. But it's weird because you can if you're on the bottom of the guard. Yes, but it's not because it's going 6 to 12. Yes. Because you're from the bottom.
Starting point is 01:06:42 You're going in this motion instead of this motion. It's so fucking stupid motion It's fucking stupid It's so fucking stupid It's like if you jerk off Knuckles up Is it really jerking off? Who does that? Not in my book
Starting point is 01:06:51 Who's jerking off like that? I've tried it It's very rare When you're trying to lube it up I guess you do it Damn, Kawajiri's relentless With his takedowns here But not during
Starting point is 01:07:03 During the actual process The climax process Dude how hard is Bermuda To get down There's only one way That's why our hands Are shaped this way Can you imagine
Starting point is 01:07:11 During the climax part You're going like this Imagine doing The only way to Get yourself to come You had to hit it Just smack it You don't have to
Starting point is 01:07:20 You've seen the fucking B&E pain Olympics and stuff, right? I'm just checking. Yeah, yeah, I have. Some people love pain, man. Where is that? I don't like pain at all. Don't fucking touch me.
Starting point is 01:07:34 I don't understand that. In any facet. Tattoos, I suck at that. You meet people that are into pain. There's people that like to get suspended. You ever see that shit? They put hooks in their back. Yes!
Starting point is 01:07:44 They hang them like fish. Do you think that maybe they feel pain in a different way like maybe what you feel what they feel is different releases in different endorphins i've always wondered that because you know people talk about like pain tolerance like oh this guy's got a really high pain tolerance like and she's got a really high power you know he loves pain yeah what are they feeling we we assume i assume that when someone does something to you, it feels the same as it is to me, but it's clearly different. Yeah, there's no way.
Starting point is 01:08:11 There's no way. Otherwise, why do girls like getting spanked? How come some girls... That's a dominant thing, though, right? Some girls love it. I think that's leftover caveman shit. Right. They love it.
Starting point is 01:08:19 They like to get spanked. Spanked, choked. Spanked 50 shades of gray. A little hair pull. That's what that shit is. A little hair pull. Generally, right? Or gagging with a good spit. A little bit. Spanked, choked. Spanked 50 shades of gray. A little hair pull. That's what that shit is. A little hair pull. Generally, right? Or gagging with a good spit.
Starting point is 01:08:27 A little bit. They like it a little bit. That's leftover kid mention. But let's be real about this shit. If a girl spanks you, it's going to be a fucking real problem. Yeah, you should have died. You might have to raise it. If a girl spanks you the way she's asking you to spank her, if she starts spanking you
Starting point is 01:08:40 that way, you'd be like, hey, hey, hey, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, it's embarrassing. Slow down. Slow down. Don't hit me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. My reaction to you being hit is to hit back be like, hey, hey, hey, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, it's embarrassing. Slow down, slow down. Don't hit me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. My reaction to you being up right now is to hit back. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:08:49 There's not going to be any of that right away. It depends how hot they are. It depends how hot they are. Right there. I might go boom. Nah, I might go full De La Hoya, man. If they're really hot, I'll put on some stockings and shit, whatever they want. It's very important that you nip that right in the bud.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Full De La Hoya. It's not going to be nip that right in the bud. Full Delahoya. It's not going to be scratching. Okay, fine. Only because you're hot. He was in stockings and fucking shoes. He had the high heels on and shit. And cocaine is a hell of a drug. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Starting point is 01:09:15 How about the girls that like to scratch? Holy shit. You better stop that shit right now. Don't you think that a lot of that is marking you? Yes. Yeah. I think that's like a lot of- Marking you?
Starting point is 01:09:26 Yeah, that's what hickeys are. What the fuck are you doing? I let everybody know that she fucked you, you know, to mark her territory, scratch you, leave marks on you. Yeah. Did you ever give hickeys? Oh, yeah, in high school. Everybody gave hickeys in high school.
Starting point is 01:09:38 You come to school, wow, you just got a hickey. Hey, that was a great idea. If you think about it, boom. Pretty awesome, bro. Always give hickeys. It's gone, though, right? When's the last time you saw someone with a hickey? Yeah, that's gone away. People, that was a great idea. If you think about it, boom. Pretty awesome, bro. Always give hickeys. It's gone, though, right? When's the last time you saw someone with a hickey? Yeah, that's gone away.
Starting point is 01:09:48 People don't do that shit anymore. It's gross. Hey, but it is a good way to keep- I'm going to get in fucking trouble for this. Why would I do this? Yeah, why are you bruising up my neck? I guess it's embarrassing now. Yo, oh shit.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Gotta wear turtlenecks. Kawajiri is tired as fuck. Kawajiri trying to spin. A lot of work trying to get him to the ground, man. Yeah, he's exhausted. He's a big dude, too. Look at that, though. That's hard. Get out of work trying to get him to the ground, man. Yeah, he's exhausted. He's a big dude, too. Look at that, though. That's hard.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Get out of here, son. Oh, and back in that. Man, he is so hard to take down. How about you, Kawajiri, gets TKO'd? He looks very tired here, I'll tell you that. You got to wonder, also, with a guy like Kawajiri, how old is he now? Between the two of them, don't they have like 60 fights or 70 fights or something like that? He's only 29?
Starting point is 01:10:25 No. No, he's only 29? No. No, he's everything up to 44. Jamie, find out how old Kawajiri is. In fighting years, he's 67. Yeah, he's older. Asians, you can't tell? Let me guess before you tell me. 35.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I'll say 37. 39. Okay. What do you think? Drum roll, please. Ian? I'm going to throw you out. Ian, 35. 37. Ian and I are the same age. I'm going to say 36 and 39. I'm going to say 36, 39. 36 and 39. Okay. What do you think? Drum roll, please. Ian? 35.
Starting point is 01:10:45 37. I'm going to say 36 and 39. I'm going to say 36, 39. 36, 39. It's either a six or a nine. Asians, you can't tell. Asians or black guys, you cannot tell. It's like that Jimi Hendrix song. What is it?
Starting point is 01:10:56 37. 37. Yeah! Oh, so between 36 and 39. I was off. Boom, son. Yeah, but you were in the wheelhouse. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:05 39. He'd been fighting for a long time, too. A long, long time. off. Boom, son. Yeah, but you were in the wheelhouse. Yeah, whatever. 39. He'd been fighting for a long time, too. A long, long time. It's hard, man. A few of those brutal KOs like this guy's experienced, like especially the Melendez fight. How many other times has he KO'd? Who wins a fight like this?
Starting point is 01:11:18 If it goes like this all three rounds, a dude. Cow Jerry. He wins because he's pressing forward. He's, yeah, take the baby. Or is that aggressive? It depends on the judging He's getting fucked up here He's getting the fucking shit elbowed out of him here
Starting point is 01:11:32 So we didn't consider that a takedown When Bermudez was on his hip getting up Some of the fucking idiot refs do Yeah but Bermudez is controlling him here Bermudez is on top And he's landing strikes And Kawajiri literally can't do shit. He's in the shot.
Starting point is 01:11:48 He's in the shot. Yeah, but that's no good. Yeah, but this is his dad's love. He's getting fucked up. But he's going into him. Right, but look how Bermudez is controlling that right arm. They're there because Kawajiri is making that happen. Yes, but he's stuck.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Look, Bermudez is controlling that right arm with that wrap. Bermudez is so progressive. They're beating the fuck out of him here. I'm definitely giving these exchanges right here to Bermudez because Kawajiri is only holding on and it ain't working. Take his back. And now he's about to get fucked up. TKO.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Ready for that TKO, son? See, I get that you're saying that Kawajiri is moving forward, but the way Dennis was countering was so much more powerful than what Kawajiri was doing. I agree with you. I'm just playing devil's advocate. That's why I brought it up. I'm saying in the first round. He's pushing him, but he's getting fucked up at the same time.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Who do you give that to? The first round Calajari. Even though he didn't get the successful takedown. Yeah, I see it as yeah, he's pushing forward, it's not effective, and the reason he's pushing forward is he doesn't want none of the stand-up. But even when he's pushing forward though, doesn't want none of the stand up. But even when he's pushing forward, though, he was underneath. He was underneath the leg.
Starting point is 01:12:49 He had his arm tied up like this. See how Bermudez loves to tie that wrist up on the far side? That's Ryan Parsons. That's all Ryan Parsons. And he is just beating the shit out of him here. I mean, there's a number of unanswered shots. Oh, twister. That'd be sick.
Starting point is 01:13:02 No, that's not going to happen. What? I'm trying to. He wants to step out... What does he do? He just wants to take the back. Bermuda's just dominating right now. No, he's got his back. He's going to flatten him out. Bermuda's looks awesome.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Did Kawajiri beat Gomi? Or no, Gomi beat him in Pride, right? I thought that was Sakurai. Was it Sakurai? Yeah. That's what I'm thinking of. Yeah. There's Ryan Parsons.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I don't know if that's Sakurai. He's screaming at him. He's screaming at him. Ryan Parsons, he's all about wrist control. Him and Pat Cummins. Smart. That's all he does, man. Well, especially from those positions, you see, like, as he's moving in for that shot,
Starting point is 01:13:34 controlling that right wrist, he was able to land so many hard shots. He gives you so much control. How many hard elbows did he land from that position? It had to be like 10, right? At least. Yeah. At least. At least. 10 hard ones.
Starting point is 01:13:47 So when you think about that, like just the impact of that as he goes back to his round, he's definitely diminished from that big time. What's his corner tone? That was a bad scene. Hey, whatever. May I go in there, brother? You want one? No, no, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:13:58 I'm good. You know what? I'll take one. Fuck it. Let's get a little loose in here. I had a baby. I'll have a beer. Celebration beer.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Let's celebrate. This is a celebration, bitches. Oh, man. Are you allowed to drink? Yeah, Jamie can drink. Let me ask you this, Joe. Look at this. Bam. If you're Cowboy Olivia's corner man and the fight's five rounds, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:14:18 Joe? Yeah. And the fight's five rounds. You're not going to have a game plan for five rounds, right? You're going to say, the first round, give it hell, man. Then after that, it's whatever. I would assume they would try to do that because that's where Cowboys had problems in the past. Guys jump on him, and he's taking the fight on short notice.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Don't let Cowboy get into rhythm because he's going to fuck you up. You blitz his ass. How many weeks did Oliveira have to prepare for this? Yeah, two weeks. He just fought not too long ago, though. Oh, well, there you go. That could be... Still, five-round fight.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I'm going to fuck who you are. Two weeks ain't ready. This fight's still going on. Kawajiri, and look at this. Bermudez is attacking now. Guinness, dog? Can I get one of the other ones? Yo, dude, how badass was that Jeremy Stevens? You got me that Guinness milkshake? I'll drink that. I like that stuff. Really? Give me the Guinness. That's a grown-ass man drink. I'm not ready for it.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Even though I'm a dad now. This is probably bad for my low-carbohydrate diet. Fuck. Probably not supposed to drink these. How's that work? Cheers, brother. Hey, bro. Hey, bro. Can't drink beer. How long is that
Starting point is 01:15:18 gonna last? I have a penis, so I can drink it. I'm only trying to do it. I'm not trying to live on it. I'm trying to do it for 60 days. Salute, my brother. How many days are you in, Joe? Hey, congratulations on that baby, man. It's gonna fuck. I'm not trying to live on it. 60 days, right? I'm trying to do it for 60 days. Salute, my brother. How many days are you in, Joe? Hey, congratulations on that baby. Thanks, fellas. It's going to fuck. Every day gets better and better, dude.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Hopefully. It just gets better and better. Hopefully. Yeah, no, it's going to be good. If I can do it, you can do it. That's your creation right there. That's the most important thing in your life. No, I watch 60 and Pregnant.
Starting point is 01:15:40 If those fucking morons can do it, I'm going to be fine. Well, for sure, don't let those be your role models. No, I'm just saying, that's the standard. And I'm like, I'm way cooler than them. You can read books on it. Brendan. You got a mother-in-law
Starting point is 01:15:57 that's huge. That's that Latin family son. But it's only hard for two years, two and a half years. After that, you talk to them. That's a really long time. That's like. No, listen, man.
Starting point is 01:16:08 That's not a long time for your legacy, dude. Even then, it's awesome. Trust me. Oh, no, I can't wait. I love kids. It's not like you have to suffer for two and a half years before they become awesome. I want to be like Sean Camp, man. Just a ton of kids.
Starting point is 01:16:20 A ton of moms. It makes you a better person. It really does. Yeah. Yeah. I'm hoping it chills me out. I can't relax with the work. I shouldn't say it makes you a better person, but it makes a lot of people a better person. It really does. I'm hoping it chills me out. I can't relax with the work. I shouldn't say it makes you a better person, but it makes a lot of people a better person
Starting point is 01:16:28 because they become way more considerate and they start looking at the world differently. Because you kind of – we all know intellectually what it's like. You have a baby. The baby becomes a person and there it goes. But when you actually see it happen, then you start to piece it together. You go, okay, everything this person is really is because of all the interactions that he's experienced while I've been his dad. And that's what you're going to start doing. You're a great guy already, man.
Starting point is 01:16:51 It's going to make you even more awesome. I guarantee you. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, you're going to be great at this, man. You're going to love it. I know you will. I can't wait. You're going to love it.
Starting point is 01:17:00 When you live your life, now all of a sudden there's someone that you'll die for and you'll kill for you know it's different it's all of a sudden you're not number one no more that kid's on one yep he's he's worth more to you than you are yep that's it now you're that changes your life now all of a sudden you're number two you got a number one that you got to protect you know what it really changes it changes your your your feeling of compassion too you just you have more compassion for people because you see people that are grown up and you go oh somewhere along the line this fucking dude was a baby and someone did a terrible job of raising this fucking kid and now here he is 25 and drunk and
Starting point is 01:17:40 stupid in my face and it puts it together to you in a way that it never did before. Before I would meet people and I'd go, oh, this guy's an asshole. You know, oh, she's a bitch. But now I go, oh, those were babies. This is a baby that just got railroaded the wrong way. The whole deal. And then you meet someone who's a really cool person
Starting point is 01:18:00 and you go, oh, well, you must have had a cool ride. Yeah, what was your childhood? You always want to know where'd you grow up? Yeah? How did you get through like what do you my parents do my my girl's family being latin man that there's so much love? And it's insane. I feel like my you know don't get me wrong my parents left the shit out of me But you know yeah, that's all I try family's just different. Yeah, Donald Trump Try keep love out yeah, Donald so stupid shit to keep that out? Trying to keep love out? Yeah, Donald.
Starting point is 01:18:25 That's so stupid. Shit, he won South Carolina. Did he? Yep. Of course he did. Look who he's against. He's against nothing. Dude, how crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:32 It's going to be him versus Hillary. Oh, 100%. You think Hillary's going to beat Ben Sanders? Or Bernie Sanders. Bernie's his name. Just mixed. Bernie's in trouble. Bernie won New Hampshire, but New Hampshire is the, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:46 that's like a very small state in the New England area. They're very liberal. New England's liberal in general. And he's like, you know, he's a radical socialist. He's like, he's got this socialist, democratic socialist agenda that a lot of people are like, hey, let's try that. It's better than what we're dealing with now, these capitalist cunts that are still just looking at the stock market, just looking at
Starting point is 01:19:05 the financial district, just looking at the way they're moving numbers around, and the fucking Wall Street crash of 2008. Obviously, there's a bunch of criminals that are running things, and they're just extracting money from this goofy, abstract system that hardly anybody understands.
Starting point is 01:19:21 So having a guy like him come along, a lot of people, including me, go, it's probably the best thing to happen. So you throw a little mix-me-up in there, see what the fuck happens. I'm not mad at the Trump curveball. I'm not talking about Trump, I'm talking about Bernie Sanders. No, yeah, Bernie Sanders.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I'm just saying, super interesting. You're talking about complete wild card. You're telling me those are the two best America has to offer? The smart people don't run for it. Fuck that noise. Fuck that noise. Over. Fuck that noise.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I don't want that bullshit. Too much side pussy going on. Too much bueno. Real quick. You're going to love that part. Dude. Another documentary. He's a hero.
Starting point is 01:19:58 He's going to this protest. He's like, come on, let me pull off real quick. What's up, girl? Yeah, it's the best. He does it in the most suave Latin guy thing. He's like, hol on. Let me pull off real quick. What's up, girl? Yeah, it's the best he does it in the master in must Like suave Latin guy thing is like over the fence, you know
Starting point is 01:20:16 Maybe I'd be right back. It's the best We need shale the run for president because shael would fight any other president and beat him up. That's true. Putin would be a good fight. You know who would be a real president who really could be a president? Stan? Brian Stan. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I knew you were going to say that. He really could do it. He really could do it. Vice President Tim Kennedy. For reals. Enjoy that, ISIS. Break glass in case of war. For reals. For real.
Starting point is 01:20:45 For real. I'll fucking vote for that. Fuck yeah. In a heartbeat. In a heartbeat. Anything Tim does, I'm on board. You know what the real problem of being a president is? Nobody can do it.
Starting point is 01:20:55 That's the real problem. It's a stupid job that no one can do. No one should have the job. It shouldn't exist anymore. It's antiquated. And the only way we're going to realize that is there's going to be no one running. It's going to be like 20, 30 years from now, no one's going to run for president. It's not going to make a difference at all.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Some homeless guy in a goat. You know, real quick documentary. This is one that I've watched over and over. It's really, really good. If you say it's the best of all time, I'm going to freak out. No, it's not. It's not. But it's really, really good.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Because especially for conspiracy theorist type, it's called How Big Oil Conquered the World. It's how it all started back in the mid 1800s. How it all started with John D. Rockefeller. And you always hear about the Rockefellers. Oh, they own everything. Or the Rothschilds. Oh, they're the bankers.
Starting point is 01:21:37 They own everything. But to actually find out how he was raised, John Rockefeller, and his dad was and this is all like, you know public knowledge It's really it's fucking amazing how the the birth of oil in the United States this documentary is called about the birth of oil And how it came in and infected all our lives and how John Rockefeller monopolized fucking everything to find that dude It's it's it's an incredible and it's free on YouTube, dude I got another one for you and it's your boy that prescription thugs. That's good doc. Yeah crazy shit He's John Rockefeller. He dude he controlled big pharma He controlled our educational system everything one dude the first billionaire one dude controlled everything this prescription thugs is some shit
Starting point is 01:22:21 Yeah, I've heard I can't wait wait. Same guy who did Trophy Kids. Have you seen Trophy Kids? Have not. Watch that. That's the way he did it. Bigger, Faster, Stronger, too. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:31 It does really good stuff. What's it called again? Prescription Thugs. That sounds fucking scary as shit. I've seen Trophy Kids and Bigger, Faster, Stronger. Netflix? Yes. It just came out.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Oh, I know. Dude, there's one. I know I'm all I know. Dude, there's one. I know I'm all over the place, but there's one. Vice had a thing on people taking their own lives, and I think there's eight states in the United States. Fucking Vice. I don't know how this journalist got this job. This old bitch is just like, yeah, I'm trying to go, man. They film it.
Starting point is 01:23:00 They film her going? I was in bed 10 o'clock at night. I got to watch this bitch die. It was nuts, man. Whoa. Yeah, and she just... Did you freak out? I was in a weird space, man.
Starting point is 01:23:10 I was in a weird space because her whole family's there, and she has this disease where it's not going to get better. She's going to forget everyone. There's no cure. It's donezo. And so she talked to this lady, gets approved. Lady comes over. She's like, yeah, that's my coffin there. You guys want coffee? Whoa. She's Dunzo. And so she talked to this lady, gets approved. Lady comes over. She's like, yeah, that's my coffin there.
Starting point is 01:23:26 You guys want coffee? She's all happy. And then her family comes. They all hug her and they all have a safe trip. She's like, thanks. Danka. She keeps going, Danka, Danka. Lays down and everyone's like, see you soon.
Starting point is 01:23:38 She's like, yes. Injector and done. It's like, hey, HBO, I'm not ready for this shit, man. Fucked my whole night up. Check it out, though. It's like, hey, HBO, I'm not ready for this shit, man. Jesus. Fucked my whole night up. Check it out, though. It's the new Vice. Pretty dope. Vice is a crazy fucking show.
Starting point is 01:23:51 I watched one episode. I don't remember what country they were in, but they were all wearing bulletproof vests and they were moving from one set of broken down rocket-shelled buildings
Starting point is 01:24:01 to the next and they're moving around somewhere in the Middle East. Yeah. And I'm watching this and I'm like, fuck this job. Like, if you're over there, and then one guy would come to the camera trying to explain, well, the rebels are about three kilometers away, and we have to stay down because they have been shooting.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Like, what the fuck are you talking about, man? The balls do that job. Dude, that's like the James Foley documentary on HBO. You know the guy, Jim Foley, the guy who got caught by ISIS? He's a prisoner of war. Jim. Jim, who got decapitated. It's a documentary on him, and he's a frontline journalist.
Starting point is 01:24:34 It's fucking nuts, man. He already got caught and got out and then went back, and then ISIS was like, yo, Doug, this is just too easy. We're so crazy. One of our biggest fears is the end of the world. The end of the world for us like that the end Of civilization there's countries out there where it is already the end of civilization Yeah, it's already. It's over you go to Liberia
Starting point is 01:24:53 It's done if the world economy collapses and then it's fucking zombies come out and all that shit nothing changes in Liberia It's the same fucking shit. It's already the end of the world have you seen the documentaries on Liberia from vice? Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah enough captain butt naked. Yeah, that's the same fucking shit it's already the end of the world have you seen the documentaries on Liberia from Vice oh yeah Captain Butt Naked it's the end of the god damn world over there nothing changes there how about when he caught people eating
Starting point is 01:25:18 human flesh on the corner and the reason why he knew the guy was selling human flesh because he knew what it tasted like Mark Coleman the world is some crazy shit and the reason why he knew the guy was selling human flesh because he knew what it tasted like. He'd eaten it before. Mark Coleman. The world is some crazy shit, man. Dude, the world is some crazy shit. Yeah, man. Because I'll get done watching that shit like in Syria and Kenya,
Starting point is 01:25:31 all that stuff, and then you're in this cushy home in L.A. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah. How long would it take? How long would it take if all the power went out? Like, how long would it take before some people started killing and eating people? Six months? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:47 It wouldn't even take that long. You don't think six months? No. You don't think we'd rob all the 7-Elevens first? I think there's a few. If we all ran out of food, and you had some, there's one asshole that you really fucking hated, and you'd have to eat his leg. Yes, the more you hate a guy, the tastier he looks.
Starting point is 01:26:04 He's like, oh, keep talking, motherfucker. Keep talking. They definitely did that back in the day, man. I mean, they definitely did that back in the day to intimidate the enemy in various cultures. They would kill you. On islands and shit. Yeah. Yeah, the Samoans and Tongans.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I don't think, did Vikings cannibalize? I think it was like a thing back in the day. How about Kevin Randall? That's fucking sad. I was with him on Saturday. I was at the Super Bowl party with him. And then I looked online the next day. I was like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:26:32 And he was all good at the Super Bowl party? Yeah, he was just coughing a lot. Which obviously was in the movie. Dude, he had the most potential ever. Just coughing a lot. Fuck. His wrestling. I mean, Chuck Liddell said he was the best.
Starting point is 01:26:43 In his opinion, he said, best wrestler in college history. That's what Chuck Liddell said he was the best In his opinion he said Best wrestler in college history That's what Chuck Liddell said That was his opinion He was so happy And I've known him for maybe We're not like good friends But I've known him for 10 years
Starting point is 01:26:56 And I've seen him once a year It's one of those things you have mutual respect Because he's fucking Kevin Randleman Talking to him And then he's talking about his queen His wife how awesome she was And I met my girlfriend And then he's talking about his queen, his wife, how awesome she was, and met my girlfriend, and then he's talking about his four-year-old son.
Starting point is 01:27:11 What a freak, though. Athletically, they say he's the best athlete to come to the UFC. No, he knocked out Crow Cop. Man, if he would have just got good at passing guard and mounting and taking backs. Can you imagine that? Kevin Roundman, if he really got obsessed, and I've had several talks with him, say, get good at passing the guard and mounting and taking backs
Starting point is 01:27:27 you'll be unfucking stoppable jacked he was the first guy that flatline cro-cop yeah in pride from across the ring super nice guy man speed and power that guy had he was a real nice guy it was fun to be around to his role jovial young mark so not a dick so not a no he was not a dick. Oh, no. He was never a dick. Ever. So cool. Boss Rubin was talking. He was on my podcast this week.
Starting point is 01:27:49 He was talking about being in a hotel elevator with him the day before they fought. Yeah. And he said, good luck. And Kevin said, good luck back to him. And Kevin said, I'll make you a deal. If you don't kick me, I promise to keep this on the feet. Really? Yeah. Damn, that's nuts and boss broke it like immediately he said random and started slapping his leg and he felt like he was saying like kick me and I'll
Starting point is 01:28:17 take it down you know like he was trying to figure out what it is so he said and then I fake to the leg and go with the front kick to the face. Fuck. Yeah. And they took him down a lot. But he's a great guy, man. It'd be good to get a CT scan of Randleman's brain. Because we don't have a lot of knowledge on that, on MMA fighters' brains, huh? That's a really good point.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I wonder if they were interested in doing that. Because his family should. Is it too late? Probably. I don't know how it works. But MMA is so young young a lot of them don't die and he's a legend he has a lot of fights so it'd be good to get just to see what's going on with with a lot of guys i wonder if anybody's brought that up because it's hard without being disrespectful or perceiving that you are disrespectful saying something like that that's true you think that's disrespectful no i definitely don't but i'm not trying to be disrespectful at all.
Starting point is 01:29:05 I don't think you are at all. We're in the know. But I'm saying asking that question would be hard. Some people might have a hard time with their kid just dying or their husband just dying. Because like Junior Seau, the guy who was literally my hero growing up as a kid, shot himself in the chest.
Starting point is 01:29:23 And the reason he shot himself in the chest, he was like, you guys need to study my brain, man. I've had so many concussions. They just said he wasn't the same guy. Did he kill himself? Yeah. Shot himself in the chest.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Holy. I didn't know that. When was that? Three, four years ago, probably. Junior Seau. Favorite athlete of all time. Fucking shit. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:29:39 They said from so many concussions, his getaway was the ocean. He would get in the ocean. They said he was the happiest guy ever. Had a great family. Lived on the beach in Oceanside. And then he said all of a sudden something kicked in and he wasn't happy anywhere. Anywhere. He would fake it everywhere.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Then he'd go home. Couldn't sleep. Super depressed. Bummer, man. But again, the NFL's been around for so long. He gave his brain, right? And they're like, yeah, CT, like a motherfucker. So I'm not saying Reelman has anything,
Starting point is 01:30:07 but he's one of the legends with all these fights who find pride, UFC, who we can actually see what the brain looks like. Step in the right direction. It's a good start. Heavy convo, fellas, sorry. Yeah. It's important, though. What you're saying is important.
Starting point is 01:30:22 It's important to think about. And it probably would have been a good idea I mean who knows We don't know Maybe somebody else had brought that up But I don't know I hadn't thought about it All I had thought about was like
Starting point is 01:30:34 Wow the guy was only like I think he was 44 44 You know what's crazy That's the first thing I thought about Yeah he wasn't that old man But like you said It might be disrespectful
Starting point is 01:30:42 Heart failure He had pneumonia And then right He had complications We went to the hospital yeah fuck who brought the bad news beer a lot of people a lot of people are fucking dying right doesn't seem like they're dude and music people they're starting to drop off rock stars are starting to drop off yeah lemmy from motorhead david bowie you can't party that hard. And miscellaneous guys too, like guys that
Starting point is 01:31:08 weren't that famous, like Jimmy Bain, the bass player for Dio. They're slowly, boom. It's that time. All those years of partying in the 70s and 80s, you're starting to pay right now. It's going to get you. They're going to start dropping.
Starting point is 01:31:22 It's kind of worth it, isn't it? To live those glory years for about 15 years. Are you kidding? You know what's crazy? Sign me the fuck up. You know, that metal was huge in the 80s. Hair metal and all that shit. Guns N' Roses and Motley Crue.
Starting point is 01:31:35 And then died a horrible vanilla ice type death in the 90s and shit. And in the 2000s. But guess fucking what, dude? Guess what? It's back. It's coming back. It's back, motherfucker. Guns N' Roses doing...
Starting point is 01:31:47 Tours. First of all, Motley Crue playing a couple nights at the Staples Center. Come on, that's fucking incredible. They couldn't do that 10 years ago. But Kiss is still doing the damn thing, too. Kiss is beyond all that. They've been doing that shit forever. Yeah, Kiss is different.
Starting point is 01:32:02 They had... That's a whole different thing. Dude, Rolling Stones, though. No, Rolling Stones never went down. They never went down. I'm talking about metal. Guns N' Roses went fucking down. Now, they're putting together that.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Finally, they're putting together. You know how big that Guns N' Roses reunion tour is going to be? It's going to finally slash an axle made up, and they said, let's do this. Holy shit. That's going to be fucking huge. All that shit's coming back you know hopefully for them i've never seen you take a piss on a podcast ever yeah that's why i figured everybody's here why not a lot of people talking it's the diet bro i
Starting point is 01:32:33 could hold it oh shit here we go cody and takingo yeah i could totally hold it if i wanted to never seen it i know i don't like a little camel you know i do have a weird bladder now but i think i trained it over all six years of doing podcasts. I got the bladder when I was 80 years old. It's all stretched out. Yeah, it must be. It's like an old hooker's pussy. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:32:53 It's just super pliable. What's up, Jim? I just thought I saw a trailer for John Travolta's new movie because this Arnold Schwarzenegger thing just made me think of it. Yeah. Oh, it looks so bad. Oh, really? He's like the Punisher, kind of. Oh, fuck off. Oh, fuck off.
Starting point is 01:33:05 I am Wrath. Oh, no. Bro, but do you see it? No, no. I heard he's awesome in the OJ show. That's what I was going to say. John Travolta and OJ
Starting point is 01:33:12 as Shapiro is the shit. They were playing the OJ show at the Comedy Store yesterday and everybody was raving about it. I was like, really? It's good, but it's like Law and Order,
Starting point is 01:33:20 but nothing happens. I heard Cuba Gooding Jr. is the shit. Oh, see, he's my only problem. Really? Yeah, he's not that good. Everyone else is the bomb. Everyone else is spot on.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Then Cuba Gooding Jr. looks nothing like OJ. Well, he looks nothing like him, but I heard his acting. Well, you kind of get a good actor, though. And what good actor looks exactly like OJ? None. So you're going gonna take another guy and put him in prosthetics my boy who did uh oh that would be kind of creepy right it'd be fucking weird that would be creepy as fuck that would be Robert Downey Jr. did it Idris Elba
Starting point is 01:33:53 they couldn't get him because he's too big in the movies I mean he's James Bond now but someone of that ilk who's that good and then you give him some crazy prosthetics he goes blackface no he's black already but you let him do a uh a fucking Daniel Day-Lewis where he just lives like that guy for a year and he puts on the prosthetic and like is OJ. That would freak people the fuck out. Bro, I'm saying you get Robert Downey Jr. does blackface as OJ Simpson. Oh no. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:34:22 He's already done in Tropic Thunder and he's so good. He's like one of the only white guys Who's ever pulled off blackface What movie was funnier than Tropic Thunder? Name one movie funnier than Tropic Thunder I don't think there's ever been a movie That was funnier But that was about as funny as a movie
Starting point is 01:34:40 Dude, come on Scene after scene after scene after scene Come on That was the funniest shit ever as a movie. Dude, come on. Scene after scene after scene after scene after scene. Come on! That was the funniest shit ever! He went full retard? Come on, that scene? You never go full retard.
Starting point is 01:34:56 That's like one of the greatest internet memes of all time. Ever. That may be one of the funniest scenes. It's his best acting job of all time. He played a black guy. Come on. But a solid black guy. It was fucking money. Goddamn, that was a good movie. How about the scene where Jack Black was tied to, he told everyone, tie me to a fucking
Starting point is 01:35:16 tree and don't let me talk you into letting me out. That scene where he's offering to suck the dude's dick. He goes, come on. Let me swallow the gravy. Let me swallow the gravy. I'm coming to the balls. Let me, come on. Let me swallow the gravy. Let me swallow the gravy. I'm kind of the boss. Come on. Just bring it over here.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Swallow the gravy. And then that gay black guy goes, I told you, man. I'm into pussy. I love that movie, man. Come on. I love it. I knew that. Appuccino, baby.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Dude, booty juice. One thing I'll never forget about that movie, the impression it left on me, when I'm like, okay, you hear it's good, and you go to the movies. I'm at the movie theater I'm watching it and when in the beginning when they blow that fucking director's head off. Yeah, you see right there. I thought oh shit You're in some shit. Yes This is this is gonna be an amazing how good was Tom Cruise as the fat agent? Oh my God, it was amazing. The dancing and all that?
Starting point is 01:36:08 It was amazing. It might be the best movie of all time. That's what I'm saying. It might be the best movie of all time. You know, the craziest thing about that movie is every character, I think the only movie ever, every character was a douchebag. Nobody was cool. Nobody.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Everybody was a douchebag. There was no cool people That's so funny It was like It was making fun of Jack Simple Jack Can you find that scene
Starting point is 01:36:32 Where Jack Black Is tied to a tree Simple He's tied to a tree Begging for a blowjob Simple Jack Simple Jack Dude
Starting point is 01:36:41 Ben Stiller His character Was the ultimate douchebag. He was like the... Oh, man. Here's your boy. Here's your jiu-jitsu boy. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Augusto Mendes, 142. Oh, shit. What is... This is Taquino, and then Jusimar Pajaras is Toquinho. Yeah. Very similar. Yeah, what is the difference? In Ray Lab?
Starting point is 01:37:02 What is the... One is Tankino At Little Tank I think I'm just Tokino And the other one is Tokino Like Twister No Tokino
Starting point is 01:37:11 I thought it was Tree Stump Yeah it's a Tree Stump I don't know Okay that's what I said I don't know Well fuck man You're just telling us I'm guessing
Starting point is 01:37:19 I'm telling you I'm guessing It's pretty educated guess I feel better because of it I think Torquino Torquino Yeah definitely It's gonna be guess I Because I think You know what I love when they say in the corner they go tranquilo tranquilo I'm gonna tell you to relax. That's a Mexican. Thank you. Look. Well, it's Portuguese to Tranquil I'm pretty sure this can be a good fight in Portuguese It's at least a similar sounding words. I've heard guys and Brazilian dudes corners calling it. You see her new thing
Starting point is 01:37:44 She's like I I made this up. Eddie, is he still with McKenzie? Is he still with McKenzie? Not him. He's with Paige, right? He's with Paige? They're both not with anybody. They're both single now. No, I think Cody's with Paige. They're both dick slingers.
Starting point is 01:37:57 And Cody, who is a murderous puncher. And a dime piece. We don't have any idea what, how do you say, taquinos? I'm going to say tankino. Tankino. That's my guess. How many times has he fought MMA? Five.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Five and O. Five and O, but all outside the UFC? Yes. What a tough first fight. Yeah. And Cody's seven and O, but he doesn't have a ton of experience. I mean, his stand-up doesn't look that bad, right? Ooh.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Cody's got a nice tough tuck. That's not good. You know what? Cody has a ton of amateur Oh, Cody's got a nice left hook. Cody's doing good. You know what? Cody has a ton of amateur fights. A lot of them. A lot of matches right now. He's winging punches from the outside. A ton of amateur MMA.
Starting point is 01:38:31 He's going to get countered. Oh, yeah. He's going to get knocked out. He's going to be super careful. Cody's going to knock this guy out. Oh, you never know, man. He might just decide, okay, it's time to go on a defensive shell and hit that double. Good luck taking Cody down.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Well, I wonder how good his wrestling is. Hard to take down for sure. It's good. Hard to take. Did he wrestle in high school and shit? No, that's what I mean. I mean the jiu-jitsu guy. What kind of wrestling? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:38:51 All his greatest work has been done with the gi, so I don't know how it's going to translate. I'm not sure. Where did Cody wrestle? Just in high school. But he's real good? Really, really good. And that Team Alpha male,
Starting point is 01:39:02 they said he sets the standard as far as intensity. He's a motherfucker. His footwork looks great, they said he sets the standard as far as intensity. He's a motherfucker. Well, his footwork looks great, right? Yeah, he's definitely got some nasty powers. Oh, look at that. He's hurt. He's hurt. And he has a gun in his back pocket.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Hey. What? Is that a gun in your pants? Dude, that's an amazing tattoo. How do you get through that through the weigh-in? That's the hardest tramp stamp ever. It goes right to his butthole. Dude.
Starting point is 01:39:21 And he has wings on his stomach. Shot through the heart. And you're to blame you give love dude so no one knows if he's still with page is that not a thing anymore are you i'm just curious oh cody took him down oh let's see how much control he had none didn't like it he's gonna say stand up cody should not go to the ground with this. Hell no. No.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Yeah. I don't think he'd probably like that. But meanwhile, no controls. Hey, Jabra, what would you have liked to have seen from him in that position? I don't know, man. I mean, that's Tonkino. He can do whatever he wants. He's engaged, though.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Right. But what would you like when you're seeing a guy who's trying to go for that wall You know what? I think he's not going to be able to take him down, and I think he's going to lose the fight if he stays on his feet. So if you can't take him down and you can't survive on your feet, what else is left? Jump to guard. I mean, that's all you've got left.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Jump to half guard. Pull half guard from the cage. I agree, Eddie. It's been done successfully many times. Many times. I wish Frank Mir would do that. It's not some fantasy. It works. And if you're good
Starting point is 01:40:28 on your back. If you got sweeps. If you got fire off your back. He's a world champ. But I've never really seen him on his back. He's the destroyer on top. He destroys people going through him on top. I bet he's pretty good though. I bet his jujitsu is better on his back than Cody's is on top. His stand up is not that bad.
Starting point is 01:40:45 He's definitely outgunned by Cody, but he's moving well. He's getting out of the way of shit well. He's landed some decent leg kicks. Especially for a 5-and-0 in a Jiu-Jitsu background. His stand-up's not bad at all. It's not that bad. See, he's moving. He's trying to use that check hook as he's stepping back.
Starting point is 01:40:59 He's not running in a straight line with his hands down. He's not doing anything dumb. He's not being reckless, that's for sure. No, he's taking his time. He's smart. He's very smart. Anybody that gets that good at jiu-jitsu, man, when you're hitting that super mastery level
Starting point is 01:41:14 where you're beating the best guys in the world, well, those guys, all they have to do is just focus on the new thing, and they start picking up the new thing with the same sort of clarity that they pick up. As long as they don't have any physical issues. Yeah. Especially jujitsu guys though.
Starting point is 01:41:28 They're so cerebral. They're so smart. They bring you into the octagon, I feel like. There's a difference in the way you move though. And the problem is that some guys who are grapplers, they never seem to figure out how to develop that explosive snap. Bro, I'm talking like you're saying the world class world champions like Jacare, Damian Maia,
Starting point is 01:41:48 like those motherfuckers, when they bring that same mindset to MMA, dude, they're fucking nightmares. Yeah, Jacare right now. Oh, he got hurt? Oh, look at that. Look at that. Oh, shit. Takino got some stand-up. It's scary to have someone with that sort of mastery even.
Starting point is 01:42:03 You got that good at something. Holy shit. Cody just dropped it. No, no, no. Stop the fight. Go ahead and hate on that stoppage, Eddie. Damn. I hate that shit.
Starting point is 01:42:15 I hate that shit. Eddie wants to see brain trauma. Oh, let's see safety. Safety on three. One, two, three. Safety. It's a fight. You just got fucked up. That was over, dude. That fight was legit stoppage. No, they couldn't let it go. One, two, three, safety. It's a fight. You just got fucked up.
Starting point is 01:42:25 That was over, dude. That fight was legit. No, they couldn't let it go. No, Eddie. He got in the way. Let's look at it again. Joe Silva. I was happy with it.
Starting point is 01:42:35 I felt like Cody. Hey, listen. Cody would have won. I agree. 100% Cody would have won. He missed it? Yeah. I was looking at you.
Starting point is 01:42:42 We want to see a little. Here we go. We want to see violence. He's out on his feet. Eddie. Look at it? Yeah. I was looking at you. We want to see a little- Here we go. Here we go. We want to see violence. He's out on his feet, Eddie. Look at this. Boom. Pow. Oh, right and left and a right.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Look, he's out there. No, he's fine there. Not really. But Mario Yamasaki in the way. That was terrible positioning by Mario Yamasaki. Don't tell me that was a good stoppage. That was a good stoppage. Oh.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Okay, it's a little suspect. Look, he's rough there. There's an issue. Look at that. He's in his way. This is the first of all- And then what? I don't know what's going on there. Okay, now I'm agreeing with Eddie. First of all, the positioning by Mario Yamasaki was terrible.
Starting point is 01:43:13 You're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to step in between unless you're stopping the fight. Yeah, for sure. So he stepped in between, then he stepped out. He got in between the action, and then he let the action go on. I don't think you're ever really supposed to do that. That was a moment of indecision or he wanted to get a better look
Starting point is 01:43:30 at him and that was the only way he could do it. But it's a mistake to go between the two fighters because, at least in my opinion, it makes the fighters think that the fight has stopped so the guy backs off. He could have landed shots in that time if Mario hadn't been in his way. He drops him, he's hurt, he's on top of him.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Those couple seconds sometimes is all you need to get enough clarity to grab a leg or to try to scramble back up to your feet or to clinch. So that second or so where Mario walks in front of him, that, like, interfered. Yeah, Mario really fucked up, right? No. Wait a minute, you didn't hear what he just said? No, I heard what he said. No, Mario fucked up.
Starting point is 01:44:06 But whether Mario jumped in or not, Cody's winning that fight right there. Whether he got more head trauma or not, that fight was over. But do you understand
Starting point is 01:44:13 that the fans want definitive closure? Yes, and I do not give a fuck. You don't care about the fans? No, not when it comes to that guy's safety.
Starting point is 01:44:22 His first fight in UFC, he was out on his feet. Okay. It's all about safety. I get it. Speaking of head trauma. I think Eddie's being passive-aggressive. No, it's not. You know what? I get it. We gotta save them. Mario fucked us. We gotta save their lives. Mario's the real loser here. He really fucked up. Oh, how dare you?
Starting point is 01:44:38 Well, no, I'm saying if there's a loser in the fight, it's Mario. If you're out there. No, Mario, I love you to heart. By the way, Brendan, you know I love you. I'm not trying to talk shit. I know, brother. This is just like arguments. Don't ever apologize on a fight, companion. No, Mario, I love you to heart. By the way, Brendan, you know I love you. I'm not trying to talk shit. I know, brother. This is just like, what? No arguments. Don't ever apologize on a fight campaign. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:44:49 All right. Don't ever apologize. Your opinion is super valid. Hell yeah. We got to argue. Yeah. I love to argue. As long as we're clear with that.
Starting point is 01:44:57 It's fun to argue. That's the point. He's always been of the mind that you should let guys take a few more hits on the ground rather than a few less. That's the majority. And I'm saying I've been in there. It's arguable. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:45:09 With the head trauma, and I see how it affects friends, and I'm just like, man, I wish I'd stopped it a little earlier. Because the odds are Homeboy's not going to win that fight. So might as well stop the fight another day. Yeah, but you don't know that because of Frankie Edgar. Frankie Edgar against Clay Maynard. Exactly. There have been plenty of fights.
Starting point is 01:45:24 I love the exceptions, though. Yeah. That's the exception. I thought about in general. There would be more of those exceptions if there would have been more referees letting it go. Like, how about Weidman? Maybe Weidman's not the same. Or Junior Dos Santos.
Starting point is 01:45:34 Maybe he's not the same. The Weidman fight, without a doubt, should have been stopped at the end of the third. You need to start a fund. Like, some kind of fund. You don't think the Weidman fight should have been stopped at the end of the third? You know what? I would be lying if I said I don't think the Whiteman fight should have been stopped at the end of the third? You know what? I would be lying if I said I didn't like the violence. I like dudes getting fucking smashed.
Starting point is 01:45:51 That's the majority. People enjoy that. Because that's what they pay to watch. I like that. I'm saying from my point of view as the ex-fighter, it's like, dude, let him fight another day. He has a long career, man. Yeah. Let's just stop it.
Starting point is 01:46:02 You're going to get way more fights out of him. That's why it's so cool when Chuck Liddell dog goes after he wins like he's like a fucking viking it's like that's why because it's so dangerous until shit you could get shut off but i didn't get shut off you got shut off i know that's great and then 20 years then in 20 years right then in 20 years you see these boys and they're drooling and they don't know where the fuck they're at you know what they knew they know the risk all right i know but we can prevent some of it is all I'm saying. Buy the treatment. Prevention fund.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Come on, start a prevention fund. I like both of your attitudes about this. You know what my attitude right now is? I hope that science hits some point where medical science- Fix the brain? They figure out some way to just revive the brain. That'd be so dope. I mean, why can't they?
Starting point is 01:46:42 If they could do all this different stuff to make your muscle tissue repair, and they can fix all kinds of stuff. Like, who knows what they could do with, like, maybe one day they're going to be able to shoot stem cells into your brain. That's the ticket. Because you do that, we're all, hell yeah, let's go out. Do you imagine? You got a bunch of Leonard Garcia's now.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Fuck this place. Meanwhile, what are the side effects? It would be just like, imagine the side effects. Fucking nightmares every night. I'll imagine the side effects fucking nightmares every night Maybe it's gonna be like steroids for the brain Like you know you see bodybuilders. They're fucking ridiculously oversized you can get people giant boom Mars attacks That's a great reference. They're just going to run the stock market and shit.
Starting point is 01:47:26 They're just going to act, act, act, act, act. They're just going to continue to run the world. And everybody's going to say, there's fucking juicers out there running the world. We're going to get mad that people are brain juicing. PDs, motherfucker. The problem is, it's the elite. Act, act, act, act, act. That's such a great reference.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Mars attacking forever. Another classic movie, son. Dude dropping science, all sorts of science, and haters be going like, I'm a fucking brain juicer. Yeah, he's juicing. Yeah, he's super smart. Fuck that dude. Yeah, he read your mind, bitch, because he's on steroids.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Yeah. Try reading minds without steroids. I don't care. He read my mind. He made me cum. He's cheating. You know, that's like when you see a giant bodybuilder do this, the first thing that every guy says.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Boy, he undercommitted to that kick. He backed off that kick. Yeah, he didn't commit. And Cody caught him with a beautiful counter. Imagine Jeopardy where they test for steroids. Is this on? Is this on? Is this on? Yes.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Well, I'm going to take a piss on that. Yeah, that was a big fuck up by Mario. That's a big fuck up right there. I mean, look, I don't want to do that job. That's a way harder job than doing commentary. Commentary is the, my job doing commentary is the easiest one out of all the jobs in the UFC. Slightly, slightly harder
Starting point is 01:48:48 than Ariane's job. Get the fuck out of here. It's slightly harder than Ariane's job. Until someday you go away and they have to replace you and everyone's like,
Starting point is 01:48:55 God, who's the last, who's the last, who's the last, Brian Stan's doing it, we're here. We're here in Willow Hills partying it up.
Starting point is 01:49:02 And I, and more people are listening to you talk about Martin's attacks than Brian Stan break down the fights. Just theying it up. And more people are listening to you talk about Mars attacks than Brian Stan break down the fights. Just the way it is. Motherfucker brain juicing. Dude, ain't that reference of the night? Nobody can be that smart, okay?
Starting point is 01:49:15 Bullshit. Is he brain juicing? Dude, he's talking about physics and shit. Come on. He's juicing. He's got to be juicing. They have his skull removed. They put his brain in a fish tank. He's a fucking juicer. He knows about physics. He got popped twice. He's got to be juicing. They put his brain in a fish tank.
Starting point is 01:49:25 He's a fucking juicer. He knows about physics. He can cook. He got popped twice on pop quizzes. He's got like 10 degrees. What's the host of Jeopardy? What's that guy's name? Alex Trebek.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Alex Trebek. He's going to be like Dana White doing press conferences and shit. We got the most stringent tests of all game shows. It's hilarious. It's going to be dudes way smarter than Einstein. If you think about that, man, that's going to happen for sure. Brain juice. They already have things like modafinil, which they've outlawed in the Olympics.
Starting point is 01:50:01 You can't have that in the Olympics anymore. And that started out as a smart drug. That was a drug that they created. They had to say that they made it for people who had narcolepsy. It made me angry. They originally didn't cut... Modafinil makes you angry? Really?
Starting point is 01:50:16 Yeah, I took it for an extended period of time. Because you're so smart, and you get angry at how dumb people are. How stupid everyone is. Yeah, it's like, ah! But here's a funny thing. I deal like this. They came up with it just for performance-enhancing reasons. It was created for that.
Starting point is 01:50:28 But then because it's a prescription drug, they had to have a reason to prescribe it, like an illness. That's how drugs are set up. You can't say, hey, you need a prescription to be more awesome. I'm going to take awesome pills. No, you have to have something wrong with you. I'm not awesome.
Starting point is 01:50:42 I got diagnosed as un-awesome. So then once you're diagnosed as un-awesome, you can take modafinil. So you have to say, I'm experiencing fatigue, or I drive and I need to stay awake when I drive. It has to be something like that. I get narcolepsy. So they have this drug that's used through Silicon Valley. Silicone? How do they say it?
Starting point is 01:51:02 Silicon. Wait a minute. There's already brain juice Those fucking guys Listen these guys That are running these tech companies They're all taking Modafinil It is the drug
Starting point is 01:51:10 Of Silicon Valley Is this the limitless pill You're talking about? It's just This is real? Where do I get it? It's yes Modafinil
Starting point is 01:51:15 I'll get you a prescription It's um This is real? It's NuVigil Have you heard about this Jamie? ProVigil or NuVigil Are you on it? I have it
Starting point is 01:51:23 I have prescriptions for it I want it I'll get you some No wonder you're so fucking smart I on it? I have it. I have a prescription for it. I want it. I'll get you some. No wonder you're so fucking smart. I knew it was bullshit. Pretty sure I just witnessed a crime. What it does... No, I'm going to get him a prescription. What it does is...
Starting point is 01:51:32 Cheater. It gives you... I don't very rarely take it. This is when I take it. I'll take it if I know I'm tired and I got to drive or if I got to do something and I really want to be sharp or I don't feel... But I don't take it before podcasts anymore. I've taken it before like four or five podcasts ever.
Starting point is 01:51:47 That would be the time to take it. Yeah, no, not necessarily, because sometimes you want a conversation to be as, you don't want it to be too ramped up. You know what I mean? Like, you got to know, you got to know like when to be casual. If you have a dumb gas, you want to be at their level. You want to be able to be casual effortlessly as well as be amped up.
Starting point is 01:52:07 See, I think Modafinil is really good if I wanna be amped up, but I don't necessarily think it would be good if I wanted to be casual. You know what I'm saying? Because it's too... You take it like Viagra on the first date. You're like,
Starting point is 01:52:17 I'm gonna fucking dazzle this bitch with science. You start talking about some shit you don't know nothing about. This shit's just coming to me. You don't know nothing about This shit's just coming to me I don't know what it is You're like breaking down fucking molecules I don't know It doesn't work anymore
Starting point is 01:52:33 All she has to do is go into her phone I just googled what you said and it's nonsense What? It's the closest thing to limitless You googled what? You're the one that's talking about it. What are you talking about? It's the closest thing to liberalist pills, right?
Starting point is 01:52:47 I don't know what he's doing. I was trying to figure out what that noise was. I thought I kept hearing noises this whole fucking time you guys have been talking. Yeah, I thought I heard some shit, too. What was going on over there, Jamie? Were you fucking with us? I was like, wait a second. Acid beer.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Can you imagine if they put acid in beer? Oh, Jamie wished they would. He was playing the Mars Attacks thing. Ah, ah, ah. Oh, there we go. Ah, ah. You should have Tropic Thunder on that bitch. Not fucking Mars attacks
Starting point is 01:53:07 Mars attacks like top 200 Good Yes, it still holds up I watched it a year ago, it's funny do I just watch by six months ago It's really fun. It's Tim Tim Burton. Yeah, it's a ago. It's funny. Do I just watch by six months ago? It's really fun. It's Tim Tim Burton Yeah, it's a classic. It's a classic No, you know I don't dare you dude when you when you tell me to watch something I watch it Oh my thrones I I resisted Game of Thrones for years. I've never seen it. He said bro. Just watch it I look like of course who doesn't like game of never see a light Game of Thrones. I'm waiting. They should arrest Natasha
Starting point is 01:53:46 Let's hear the studies. Hold on. Is there is there a dragon in it? Yes, I'm not gonna watch You don't believe in dragons? You don't believe in dragons? You don't believe in dragons? Oh my god. He's a father. Alright, alright. I'm a grown man. I can't even get in a conversation with someone that doesn't believe in dragons. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:54:04 Come on. Listen here Santa Claus. I can't even get in a conversation with someone that doesn't believe in dragons. You know what I mean? Come on. Listen here, Santa Claus. Time to fucking grow up, Peter Pan. Hey, Santa Claus, that's another story. There's not enough evidence for Santa Claus. You don't believe in dragons? Have you seen Vikings?
Starting point is 01:54:18 Speaking of, it's supposed to be factual. No. Is that bad? No, it's fucking awesome. The show? Yeah, Vikings is bad. It's all about Ragnar Lothbrok. Is it based on reality? Yes, it's fucking awesome. The show? Yeah, Vikings is bad. It's all about Ragnar Lothbrick. Is it based on reality?
Starting point is 01:54:28 Yes, it's based on reality, and it's Vikings. Vikings just fucking ruin everything. It's awesome. They just fucking ruin it. Were they the first terrorists? That's what I heard. Fuck yeah, they were. Well, they were conquerors.
Starting point is 01:54:37 That was a bad time when someone... It wasn't like, you know, but a few hundred years ago, where a ship showed up at your shore, you got a real fucking problem they're gonna fuck your girl bad oh they're fucking everybody they're killing catapults with fucking balls of fire ready to go there's no technology drones you're gonna have to battle that shit with your hands imagine living back then you would get nothing done how about swords getting ready for the for the Every Braveheart battle is the same.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Making arrows. Trying not to die. Trying to live past 25. Dude, come on. When there's a rugby team of like a thousand people here, a thousand people there, and they just rush each other. How the fuck do you... The only way you can convince a guy to do that is you got to make sure he believes in Jesus. And you got to make sure he believes in God because you're doing it for God. I was too guy to do that is you gotta make sure he believes in Jesus and you gotta make sure he believes in God because you're doing it for God.
Starting point is 01:55:26 I was too serious about that shit. But that was Odin back then. Whatever it is. If they didn't believe in that shit... Bro, that's like the suicide bombers now. The only reason they can convince them is because they think they're going to heaven. How about that bit you had, man? Oh, shit. I don't even know how it goes, but it was something about
Starting point is 01:55:43 what if the guys that got sent over here to blow up America just started partying at the Sky Bar? And then they get angry phone calls, and they go, Allah, why are you still alive? And you're like, oh. You remember that one? Yeah, that was from Shiny Happy Jihad. Why are you still alive?
Starting point is 01:56:02 Because you're supposed to blow yourself up a week ago. No, no. They were on to us. We had to hide out. And they're partying at the Sky Bar with their Mercedes. Because why are you still alive? That is the greatest line ever. Why are you still alive?
Starting point is 01:56:21 They get angry phone calls. That was Shiny happy jihad. That would be a great animated little series about some dudes that came over to the States that were supposed to blow themselves up, but they just started partying, and they said, fuck that shit. They realize it's awesome here.
Starting point is 01:56:37 The idea was you're never going to see a suicide bomber from Beverly Hills. They have to come from somewhere that sucks. The idea of death is more appealing than staying alive. You can't send them to Newport Coast and think they're going to kill people. The guys that are organizing this shit in the Middle East, they got to make sure
Starting point is 01:56:54 they send them to Minnesota or some shit. They can't send them on a one-way ticket to LA. That never works. They realize that doesn't work. They can't fuck with LA. They got to send them to Illinois or some shit like that. Or South Dakota They can't fuck with LA. They got to send them to Illinois or some shit like that. Or like South Dakota. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:07 Minnesota. Wyoming. Yeah. They'll go through with the plans. They're like, okay, let's do it. After like a week, they're going, let's fucking do it. Let's fuck these people. We do it for our life.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Yeah, you send them to Miami. Yeah. Remember? It's a huge problem. There's no seven verse. Remember your question? You're a seven horse. Remember, there's got to be some guy convincing dudes in the Middle East
Starting point is 01:57:26 They're like looking for the you know like hypnotistic for the dumbest motherfuckers to hypnotize There's got to be some guy looking like to convince them to blow themselves up You got to throw pussy at him right number 72 virgins. Well, they're there IQ You got to prove in IQ levels are lower than it Part of your bit was like how did they get to 72? They must offer 12 at first. I'm like, dude, I ain't blowing myself. 12 bitches?
Starting point is 01:57:49 He's got to be like, dude, I'll go to 12 bitches in one night. I have talked to God. His final offer, 72. I said, take it. My friend, there's a lot of bitches. They were all very fine. You will never tire of them, my friend. You know what?
Starting point is 01:58:03 If that was real, if you could prove that shit, if you killed yourself and you got 72 virgins for the eternity, I know dudes personally that would do that shit. Yeah, for sure. That's a good deal. You just gotta convince them that it's real. That's a good deal. 72. Rotate one every week.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Boom. You could go forever. Yeah, but what if it all burns out when they all die? Because if you're talking about eternity, you might be eternal, but if they're really 72 virgins, that means they're only like 20, and so they got like 80 years of life left if they eat vegetables and take all their vitamins. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're going to die, but you're going to stay alive, and there'll be old ladies. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:58:39 So you only want to fuck them for the first 40 years. That's not like that. You have to get into 50 and 60. It's like charity work. Then you're jacking off for the rest of the time. Then it's the twat zone. 70, they're begging you not to break their hips. You're sitting there.
Starting point is 01:58:49 You're sitting there. You're zombies. Fuck me. The dealership and the guy breaks out the calculator. He's like, well, you know, if I can give you this many, bro, I think. The negotiations. Imagine the negotiations for 72. They decided on 72.
Starting point is 01:59:03 They knew 50 wouldn't be enough. You're not going to get anybody for get anybody you could do it like the Lottery where you take like a little bit every month so listen my Bitches at once yeah, and then they will die and grow old this is what you want You can 100 people in the bombing 72 virgins one for every 40, 50 years and you're good. Can you imagine the guys that were on the fence? They're on the fence and then they decide no and then something bad
Starting point is 01:59:32 the car breaks down and the fucking transmission falls out and they're like and then they had They're saying a lot of them I just fell apart there. The beers are over there. They're saying a lot of them, They're convincing their girls to do them They're forcing girls to do it now
Starting point is 01:59:47 They talked them into it That was part of my bit How are you gonna fuck What was that? That was part of my bit I was like You're never gonna see Female suicide bombers
Starting point is 01:59:55 No now you are Because dick is just not worth that much It's worth like that flyer Dick is way too accessible A lot of them are slaves And they turn them into the suicide bombers He said dick is worth like that. He could be a downer.
Starting point is 02:00:05 You said on your bit dick is worth like that flyer you find after you leave a club and there's a flyer. Dick is worth that much. It's not valuable.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Did you have some fucking great suicide bomber shit? That was a whole well that was when I was obsessed. I was obsessed with suicide bombers.
Starting point is 02:00:23 That was right after 9-11. That was right after 9-11. Yeah from 9-11 to that was when I was obsessed. I was obsessed with Suicide Bombers. That was right after 9-11. That was right after 9-11. Yeah, from 9-11 to... That was like 2001 to 2005 material. That's when I put that on Shiny Happy Jihad. Oh, man, that could have easily been like some fucking animated series about these guys that got talked into
Starting point is 02:00:38 blowing themselves up. I forgot about a lot of my bits, man. 72 Virgins. Until you brought that up. That's all you gotta discuss, 72 Virgins. I forgot about the Sky Bar. We had talked about doing virgins. Until you brought that up. That's all you got to discuss. 72 virgins. I forgot about the sky bar. We had talked about doing that. We had talked about making a bit out of that.
Starting point is 02:00:48 A movie. But you decided, you're like, you know what? I don't need no crazy motherfuckers coming after me. That was discussed. Trying to blow me out. We were on the man show. That was actually discussed. 72 virgins.
Starting point is 02:01:00 You got Tim Kennedy's number. I ain't going to do shit to you. I think it's time now. 15 years later? I want him to be cuddling with me while I sleep. The number is not enough. Move him into the house? Juan Connero, very good jujitsu.
Starting point is 02:01:11 Very good jujitsu. Very strong. Do you remember when Brunson took down fucking your boy? Yeah, he did. And he head kicked him, too. Remember that? Romero, yeah. He hit you over Romero with that switch kick off the left leg. He's a stud.
Starting point is 02:01:25 Derek Brunson is a stud. He just needs a breakout fight. He hit Yoel Romero with that switch kick off the left leg. Kept taking him down. He's a stud. Derek Brunson is a stud. He just needs like a breakout fight. Yep. He's getting better every time. But he's like knocking on the door of potential, you know? Look at that. Greg Jackson in his Kona. I'd love to figure out how Greg's going to do the overrun.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Has anybody been watching Paul Daly in Bellator? How's he been looking? I haven't been watching. He just knocked out a dude. He mocks out everybody. Just with that left hook. He just finished a cat. His left hand is retarded strong.
Starting point is 02:01:52 He was fun to watch, right? Oh, man. I was so bummed out when he got kicked out. The whole thing was so unnecessary, man. I don't know what horrible, nasty shit Koscheck was saying to him. Josh is a dick. He probably deserved it, but you shouldn't do that stuff, man. What was he saying? He can't be punching a guy. No, you definitely, nasty shit. Koscheck was saying to him. Josh is a dick. He probably deserved it, but you shouldn't do that stuff, man.
Starting point is 02:02:06 What was he saying? He can't be punching a guy. No, you definitely, you definitely should never, ever, ever do that. But man, and he didn't land the punch. It wasn't even hard.
Starting point is 02:02:16 He should have apologized. You know, it's like, if cooler heads prevailed, if I was his friend, man, I would have pulled him aside and I would have said, Liz, make a public apology. You lost your fucking mind.
Starting point is 02:02:26 PR like a motherfucker. Kudos to Josh Koscheck because he got inside my head so hard. I got completely out of character. I'm embarrassed. I'm ashamed. That's not me. It'll never happen again. I am so sorry.
Starting point is 02:02:36 I disrespect the sport. I fully expected to be fined and suspended for a period of time, but I will make reparations and I'm very disappointed in myself. Go talk to kids. Do whatever you have to. And then they would all have been under the water right now for a period of time, but I will make reparations and I'm very disappointed in myself. Go talk to kids. Do whatever you have to. And then they would all have been under the water right now and he would have had some insane fights
Starting point is 02:02:49 with Condit, insane fights with Lawler, insane fights with so many guys. We were robbed of some insane fights from Paul Daly. He is one of the best 170-pound strikers on planet Earth in MMA.
Starting point is 02:03:00 So exciting. In MMA. His fucking left hook is open. His left hand. His left hook is a piston. He's one of the best in MMA. I love when he fights still. How about when he fought Scott Smith? So exciting. In MMA. So exciting. In MMA, his fucking left hook is open. His left hand. His left hook is a piston. He's one of the best in MMA. I love when he fights still. How about when he fought Scott Smith?
Starting point is 02:03:08 So exciting. Oh, my God. Oh, Jesus Christ. Remember when he fought Dwayne? Yes. Our brother Dwayne? Dude. Dude.
Starting point is 02:03:16 He's terrifying. Mark Campman. Can he do this? Yep. Yeah. Look at Roan throwing down now. Holy shit. Yeah, Juan Cornero can box now. He's stuck with it. Yep. He's stuck with it. Well, he's American Top Team. He's their head throwing down now. Holy shit. Yeah, Juan Cornejo can box now.
Starting point is 02:03:25 He's stuck with it. Yep. He's stuck with it. Well, he's American Top Team. He's their head jiu-jitsu coach. A lot of those guys retired, you know what I mean? He's stuck with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:33 You know, it's like— A lot of experience. It takes so long to get good at striking. Oh, look at this. He gets you down, you're in trouble. Yeah, but you've got to get Derek Brunson down. Derek Brunson, look at that takedown defense he just showed. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Derek's got a nasty left kick, too. He throws it from southpaw, or he can throw it real good off the switch. I'm pretty sure he hit Romero with it off the switch, but he didn't do it from— Oh! Big shot from Brunson. Oh, what's going to happen here? What kind of control from the guard? I felt like he wanted to go down there.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Oh, shit. I felt like he might have, but he's got to get over. He's really tough against the fence, man. Oh, he's getting teed off. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. I don't know, man. He survived.
Starting point is 02:04:06 What do you have to do to be defensive here? You got to push him away. You got to wrap him up. You got to push him away. You got to push him away. It's hard to do anything against that.
Starting point is 02:04:16 How do you get the referee to not stop it? You got to see that he's limp. He's not limp. They tell you that. He's hitting hard. But okay, how about Cowboy and Dos Anjos?
Starting point is 02:04:23 He never went limp there either. Look, he's fine. He didn't move. That was a bad call. He didn't move, Joe. That was a bad call. He's hitting hard. They tell you that, Joe. Right, but okay, how about Cowboy and Dos Anjos? He never went limp there either. Look, he's fine. He didn't move. No one's getting limped. That was a bad call. He didn't move, Joe. That was a bad call. But he couldn't move.
Starting point is 02:04:29 He could have moved. And he was trying to cover. He could have moved. He could have rolled to guard. Oh, it's over now. Good point. All right, that's it. It's over now.
Starting point is 02:04:36 I don't know how many punches he just threw. It's hard to do anything against that fence. You know what? 5,000 punches. No matter what guard you're playing against the fence, it's fucking hard. You got to get off the fence. You got to get off the fence. No guard works against the fence. You know, no matter what guard you're playing against the fence, it's fucking, you gotta get off the fence. You gotta get off
Starting point is 02:04:47 the fence. No guard works against the fence. you have to work. If you're not working, they're gonna stop it. Derek Brunson. Brunson's a mother,
Starting point is 02:04:52 he needs a breakout fight. That ain't it. He needs a big name breakout fight. Well, that was a step towards a breakout fight for sure.
Starting point is 02:04:58 I agree. Somebody top 10. That's the best Ron Carnero, you know, at this point. His striking never looked better.
Starting point is 02:05:04 I mean, his footwork. Damn. Derek Brunson's legit. Oh yeah. He's for real. He's a at this point. His striking never looked better. I mean, his footwork. Damn. Derek Brunson's legit. Oh, yeah. He's for real. He's a bitch to beat. And he's getting better and better all the time.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Damn, what if it fell on his head? Getting better and broke his neck and died. And then that was it. Then they gave Ron the win. They gave Ron the win. I just had all these flashes. An asterisk. Did you ever see Paul Williams fight in boxing?
Starting point is 02:05:22 Oh, my God. Yeah. Great fighter. You know, lost that crazy knockout to Sergio Martinez. He got hit with that left hand from hell. Right here, you got to put feet on the hips and push him away. People forget Paul Williams before that fight was like the shit. He did that a little bit.
Starting point is 02:05:34 Yeah, Paul Williams was awesome, but what I was going to say is motorcycle accident. He got hit by a car. Yep. Some guy going through an intersection or something like that nailed him. I mean, that's some serious legal. He's paralyzed, right? Yeah, paralyzed from the waist down. He went flying through the air, apparently.
Starting point is 02:05:51 Damn. Powerful Derek Bronson. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Oh, we got Cowboy next. Very impressive. There we go. If you think about Bellator now, think about that. You got Benson over there.
Starting point is 02:06:03 He's fighting 170. And Benson's got a good fight against that Russian cat. Dude. Who's that Russian cat he's fighting? I can't even entertain this Bellator talk after what I saw the other day. What's happening with Yoel? Yeah, but it's just the last two fights, man. Oh, Yoel Romero's fucked.
Starting point is 02:06:18 What's going on with that? I don't know. They're appealing. Can't be doing steroids. Can't you still say he has the best body in MMA? 100%. Can you still say that? Yes. No, MMA? 100%. Can you still say it? Yes.
Starting point is 02:06:25 No, my boy Woodley does now. No. Yo, Romero. Woodley has a fantastic body. Woodley's never failed a steroid test. There's no doubt about it, but it doesn't matter. Yes, it does. We're just talking about result.
Starting point is 02:06:36 We're not talking about what got you to there. No, it doesn't matter. It may matter. It may matter. My boy Alan Joban has something to say. Listen. He feeds more face than I would say. Alan Joban, he's got a very good body, but it cannot fuck with the freak show.
Starting point is 02:06:48 That's what Yoel Romero is. Well, the freak show's on some freak shit. Allegedly. Now, think if Alan Joe Bann had his shit. He's under investigation. Think if Alan Joe Bann took his shit. We're not talking about faces, okay? We're not talking about faces.
Starting point is 02:07:00 You're talking pound for pound bodies right now? No, we're not talking about how they got there. We're talking about what results were achieved. I'm going to have to go with Uber Ream then when he fought Brock Lesnar. Yes, that's the best answer. Now, where does Sage come into this? If you're talking about Yo-Yo Romero. He's 19.
Starting point is 02:07:15 Get out of my face. He's 19 and white. Get out of my face. What is he even eating? Get out of my face, son. Fucking white people. He's 19 and white. Get out of my face. You don't white people. He's like cheating white guy out of my face. You don't like white people?
Starting point is 02:07:28 I mean, we're talking about best bodies, though. He's tired of them. Tired of white people. Tired of them. Breathing all over here. Why? No, who's having? Yeah, but as far as the guys that I've seen step into the octagon where I was like, what
Starting point is 02:07:40 in the fuck? Yoel Romero's the number one what in the fuck body of all time. That's a skinny Woodley, too. Look at Woodley now, though. Dude, Woodley has something to say. Woodley has that apple bottom out the back, too. I gotta see their ass. I can't really comment until I see their ass.
Starting point is 02:07:54 You know what I mean? Here's where Yoel Romero disappears from the pack. Traps. His traps are literally from another planet. They start at the top of his head. They go all the way down the back of his neck. They're the biggest fucking traps. His traps are literally from another planet. They start at the top of his head. They go all the way down the back of his neck. They're the biggest fucking traps. Like, when you see him, he just looks like he could throw you
Starting point is 02:08:12 to the moon. Alright, let's say just... As far as best body, dude, as far as best body, let's say you have a product and you want to hire a model. I'm not hiring him. We're talking about fucking. I'm talking about hiring models too. We're talking about fucking him. I'm talking about hiring models too. We're talking about fucking?
Starting point is 02:08:27 I'm still picking Woodley or Joban because their face. Look at that picture. Jesus Christ. Alright, he's fucking jacked. Jesus Christ. Look at the trap to shoulder ratio off the charts. Dude, show over him when he fought Lesley. Wait, he's on drugs? No, no, no. What the fuck? No, peptide.
Starting point is 02:08:43 It's up for... He was a freak, man. Dude, Overeem, when he fought Lesnar, he had always a better body. Well, Overeem, when he fought Lesnar, was also 100 pounds heavier when he weighed in. He made me want to retire then.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Just remember what I just said. He's 100 pounds heavier when he weighed in. Get the fuck out of here. You're taking pictures. Look at Joe. Joe's taking video. I have my phone out. Look at's taking Video I have my phone out Look at Ariane
Starting point is 02:09:05 I have my phone out Taking pictures of his ass Wait he's 100 pounds heavier What? He's 100 pounds heavier Hell yeah Than Yoel Romero When Yoel weighs in
Starting point is 02:09:13 I thought you were saying He gained 100 I mean it's only really 80 But think about the difference Between a 185er And a 265 Shredding He's gigantic
Starting point is 02:09:20 265 With world class striking I mean it's only 80 pounds I'm exaggerating by saying 100, but not by much. You wouldn't really be able to tell the difference. He was 20 pounds heavier than that. Come on, son. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:09:30 Best body in MMA. Look at that. When he fought Brock, I bet, oh my God. Yeah, I bet that's as big as a man can get. And still be functional, yeah. He was amazing. I don't think you guys Are giving white guys love Amazing
Starting point is 02:09:46 I think you guys are He's a freak There we go Yeah I'm just saying That beautiful mocha skin That's sex right there There you go
Starting point is 02:09:53 Big country Big country Last fight With Rochelle That guy has a lot Of fucking Twitter followers A lot of Facebook love Yeah he does
Starting point is 02:10:02 Roy Nelson People love him Some Roy Nelson It just seems like It's not capitalized on enough. Dude, you know what's crazy? I agree. America loves him. It seems like someone
Starting point is 02:10:11 somehow should have taken advantage. Some company should have scooped him up for commercials or something like that. A reality show. Well, just a commercial. Getting him a gig for something. Burger King or something. He was close to signing with Burger King, I think. Was he? Dude, I haven't talked to Roy in a while, right?
Starting point is 02:10:27 We did the Ultimate Fire together. We did our live Fire and the Kid in Vegas out there. I get a text like 10 minutes before the show goes, love you, brother. You're going to do great tonight. Can't wait to see it. I'm like, who the fuck is this? I go, who is this?
Starting point is 02:10:38 He's like, it's Roy, man. I'm in the crowd. I was like, dude, he's that dude. He's such a nice guy. His wife is very cool, too. Yeah. Yeah, he's one of those guys that I was like, dude, he's that dude. He's such a nice guy. His wife is very cool, too. Yeah. Yeah, he's one of those guys that I feel like if he had someone who understood how to market him better to sponsors and stuff, I could see that dude doing a ton of commercials.
Starting point is 02:10:56 He had his wife doing his management. Well, you need someone who knows how to sell you to a motor oil company. You're talking about CAA. Yeah. Remember when Chuck was doing those, what were they? Some car. Duralast. Duralast.
Starting point is 02:11:10 What is a Duralast? Battery. Battery. Remember the battering wrecking ball hits him in the face and all that kind of shit? Chuck was also world champ, though. Yeah. True. I feel like Roy could be in some humorous shit.
Starting point is 02:11:22 He could have the Larry the Camper Guy shtick. Bass fishing type stuff. You know, bass fishing equipment, like the boats and shit and theous shit. He can have the Larry the Camper Guy shtick. Bass fishing type stuff. You know, bass fishing equipment, like those boats and shit in the swamps. I'm with you. What? No, no, no. You'd be perfect. Come on.
Starting point is 02:11:31 No, no, no. There's trillions in that. If you want to sell money to people in the bass fishing world, you have to have a bass fishing star. You would have to. They have stars. Oh, yeah. You don't think those guys watch the UFC?
Starting point is 02:11:43 Oh, they definitely do. But you know who they watch even more? The Bill Dance Fishing Show For real There's a whole world those people live in I watched it the other day for two hours I watched professional bass fishing on TV You have nothing to do with it
Starting point is 02:11:59 I have plenty to do I'm watching psychology No wonder Do you watch Making a Murderer yet? Yes You watched it all? No, I started it. How many have you seen?
Starting point is 02:12:07 Just the first one. Oh, shit. And I was like, whoa. At first, I was like, fuck this guy. He's guilty. He's guilty. The guy's a dirtbag. He's guilty.
Starting point is 02:12:16 His family doesn't want to admit it. I see what's going on here. And then you find out about the other guy, and you go, oh. Then you find out about how they knew about the other guy, and they ignored the evidence. I don't want to spoil it. Dude, it gets ten times crazier. No, it's pretty fucking... It lasted two episodes too long for me.
Starting point is 02:12:32 Okay. Is there nine? Okay, spoiler alert. No, no, no. That's not a spoiler alert. Don't listen to him. Don't listen to him. Don't listen to him.
Starting point is 02:12:39 You mean that I stopped watching at the right part because I don't remember. You're fine. Nothing else happens. What were we talking about right before that? How about Narcos? Branding big country as a superstar. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:50 Yes. Bass fishing. Oh, yeah. Bass fishing people that I watched it for two hours. Yeah, I was asking what we had to do. And he said,
Starting point is 02:12:58 really, psychology. They catch the fish, they weigh them, and they have a recording, like a digital thing where they weigh them on so they know exactly how much they weigh. And then they throw them back in the water a recording like a digital thing that would they weigh him on so they know exactly what's the weight and they throw them back in the water like they used to keep them in there I don't know if they
Starting point is 02:13:09 still keep them the maybe was just what tournaments that I was watching they used to keep them what they call live well so this tank this aerated tank in the pool in the in the hull of the boat they throw the fish in there and then they'd show them to everybody and then allegedly let him go but that fucking fish has been tortured for hours now. And now they throw them back. Yeah, they have a big problem. Now they throw them back immediately.
Starting point is 02:13:29 And they just keep catching the same fucking fish? Yeah, there's a big problem with fish that have mouth problems and fucking fucked up Yeah, they get hooks. And then they get massive injuries. But because we don't think they're huge. Exactly. Nobody gives a fuck. Can you imagine if you're catching squirrels with hooks?
Starting point is 02:13:44 I was going to say, no one gives a fuck No Can you imagine If you were catching Squirrels with hooks I was gonna say No one gives a fuck About bass With hooks in their mouths No one Save bass mouths Imagine if it was like A puppy fishing contest
Starting point is 02:13:53 Where you threw bones Attached to hooks And you were pulling Them up the hill And the puppies Come and run over And the puppies Grab the hooks
Starting point is 02:14:00 And you try to get The biggest puppy That makes me sad Smash it with a stick Save the bass A small bass If you watch those guys Catch a small. That makes me sad. Smash it with a stick. A small bass. If you watch those guys catch a small bass, that's like a year old bass, a two year old bass.
Starting point is 02:14:10 If Disney made a movie about a bass, a cute bass. They don't know what gives a fuck about this. There's no people standing for fish rights and shit. Fish is like, okay, you can eat that shit. I only like dolphins. Here's where you're wrong. There was an organization called the Lobster Liberation Organization. I'm not bullshitting.
Starting point is 02:14:27 They'd break into restaurants and seafood places, and they would free the lobsters and send them loose back into the ocean again. That's awesome. I have cockroaches in my garage if you want to get a move. That's awesome. Take them back to Madagascar or wherever the fuck they came from. Oh, shit. Isn't that hilarious?
Starting point is 02:14:42 Breed them in your house. That's fine. How crazy is that? I'd be down for something like that. But you're getting arrested for a lobster. There's people that save goldfish. Yeah. But then you get out right away.
Starting point is 02:14:50 No, I don't know. Well, they have. That's a problem. Come on. But it's a problem with people take those fish, like goldfish, and they release them in a lake. Well, all kinds of fish. Goldfish alone.
Starting point is 02:15:01 You release them in a lake, and they're an invasive species. They fuck with the whole ecosystem. Asian carp. A lot of that there's a lot of different fish that somehow another through either people releasing them like they had them they like snake heads like people have let snake head fish they'll take they'll kill every fish in a fucking lake to save it from snake heads and they'll come after you poison snake head bite you. It'll climb on land and bite you. I don't know what a snakehead is. I'm not going to lie to you guys. They walk across the land to find you. You got a picture of a snakehead for me?
Starting point is 02:15:28 A snakehead. A snakehead fish is from Africa. And people used to keep them as pets because they're cool. And what they would do is, these fucking fish, they would get sick of them. Are they cute? So they would let them know they're monsters. Pull up a snakehead, Jamie. They're monsters.
Starting point is 02:15:41 They're dinosaurs. Oh, sick. And they walk on land. Well, you don't understand. They get fucking big, too. Jesus Christ. Oh, no, no. Wait, they walk on land. Well, you don't stand big too. They get Jesus Christ Oh, no, no, wait. Wait, I'm gonna bear kudos Jamie pull up snakehead in the Congo walks on land in the video Hold up those things walk on like they're awesome one They walk from one pond to another pond across the ground things are awesome. Like they come out of the water and they walk They're not very popular, though, huh?
Starting point is 02:16:05 Oh, my, they're monsters. This is a snakehead in Thailand. Okay, here it is in Thailand. Peace! Oh, this is scary. This is, I don't know if this is... The guy has a bandana on. No, this is not it, Jamie.
Starting point is 02:16:16 This is, um, we want to see the one in the Congo. Oh, shit. This is one he caught. I don't think it's going to show it walking. Maybe snakehead fish walking. Are they dangerous at all? I don't think it's going to show it walking. Maybe snakehead fish walking. Are they dangerous at all? I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:16:28 Oh, they're not dangerous? Oh, if it's not dangerous, I don't care. I mean, they'll probably bite you. Nah, I need something to attack people. But the really big ones, you have to worry about sharks. Also in the Congo, remember those spiders that attack in swarms? Yeah. That's different.
Starting point is 02:16:40 They're usually solitary in the States, but in the Congo, they fucking swarm you. Spiders. Giant spiders. Humans swarm., they fucking swarm you. Spiders. Giant spiders. They swarm. They make these giant animals. Not people. There's no people in the fucking jungle. Yeah, they catch squirrels and shit.
Starting point is 02:16:52 Spiders do. They swarm them. I've seen the ones that are big enough to catch birds, but I don't know. I love a cute squirrel, though, man. It's worse than fucking spiders swarming on you. Yeah, Jamie, just look for it in the Congo, because this is not it. It's a BBC documentary on the Congo. Maybe it's not exactly listed as snakehead.
Starting point is 02:17:09 Maybe I'm saying the wrong name. But I know snakehead is a similar fish. It's an invasive species from other countries that just takes over ecosystems. Sounds dope. Dude, how about they're trying to one-up each other cowboying right now? They're just walking on the land. Look at this. Look at this thing walking on the land.
Starting point is 02:17:23 They're walking until they find another another lake well unless they're eating people These are little ones they'll bite the fuck out of you into that not step on that fucking well. What's crazy? Here's the way you find it Shoebill shoebill bird eats naked fish in the Congo shoe Hill bird eats eats snakehead fish in the Congo. Shoehill bird eats prehistoric fish. It's the craziest shit because a shoehill? Shoebill? Shoebill's five feet tall and has
Starting point is 02:17:50 a beak that's about the size of my torso. This gigantic hatchet growing out of its face. Pterodactyl. And it looks evil as fuck. That's a shoebill. Look at that thing. It's smaller than the ones with the pterobird and shit? Yeah. Smaller than pterobirds by a couple feet, but they're still five feet fucking tall.
Starting point is 02:18:08 You don't get a sense of perspective in this photo. It looks like a duck on steroids. Yeah, but if you were standing next to it, you would get a sense of perspective. You would be terrified by that thing. Because imagine standing next to that thing, and you're only a foot taller than it. You'd be shit in your pants. That thing's monstrous. Is that the thing we saw in that Congo?
Starting point is 02:18:25 Exactly. That's the same documentary. It's like ostriches are fucking huge, right? Oh yeah, but they don't have the creepy eyes that these things have. They have small faces. They'll fuck you up though. Don't they kick you or some shit with their talents? Look at that shit out there. That thing is a
Starting point is 02:18:40 fat ass duck. Every one of my nightmares right there. A giant bird. This thing walks through the swamp, and then it's going to jack a shoebill. I mean, a snakehead. Jack us. That bird's my size. Yeah, it's a big-ass bird. It's the size of me, almost.
Starting point is 02:18:55 I think they only weigh like 50 or 60 pounds. I can get down with that bird. You wish. But it's a five-foot bird, man. I'd fucking run. Is it really five foot? Yeah. Yeah, the big ones, they can get five foot.
Starting point is 02:19:05 See if you can find another better. See if you find a shoebill bird in the Congo. Look at that thing. Yeah, look, it's eating that fish whole. It's a little dinosaur. It's a dinosaur. Powerful main event. Cowboy versus cowboy.
Starting point is 02:19:16 Cowboy, cowboy. About to go down. Cowboy on cowboy crime. This cowboy looks really calm. I gotta piss again. They say he's super relaxed Because of the shit he went through in Brazil So finding him is just fun
Starting point is 02:19:28 He didn't get the same nerves Oh wow Isn't that interesting What did he go through in Brazil I'm not sure He grew up really poor On a farm Really poor on a farm
Starting point is 02:19:36 Yeah he looks super relaxed The whole montage before this Was just them trying to out cowboy each other Like who's more a cowboy Did you see it This dude looks super. Yeah, showed cowboy on a ranch. Showed him on a Brazilian ranch.
Starting point is 02:19:47 That's funny. Well, it's a good move for marketing. The two best cowboys in the world are American and Brazilian. Two cowboys. There's a lot of cowboys in Brazil. I didn't realize that. A shitload. I would like to see him.
Starting point is 02:19:57 I want to see a good fighter get a real camp. I don't like anybody fighting on two weeks notice. He's dangerous for Cerrone, though. Yeah, he's dangerous. Super dangerous. He's dangerous, period. Look though. Yeah, he's dangerous. Super dangerous. He's dangerous, period. Look at this. Hugging people.
Starting point is 02:20:07 A guy that's going to come forward on Cerrone. This motherfucker's taking selfies before he fights. Look how happy he is, man. Yeah. I'll tell you, he's got to do some shit. He's bouncing around. When this is your pleasure. Wow.
Starting point is 02:20:19 This is going to be fun. Hell yeah. I can't wait for this. Relaxed, dancing. Damn, he must think this is his time. Look at him. He looks so relaxed. There's no pressure on him.
Starting point is 02:20:28 Look how relaxed he is. Pump those hips. Yeah. What is the ass? Bomba? No. What is it? What is it called?
Starting point is 02:20:36 Cejuta bunda. Bunda? That's it? Eddie, what's the word for butt in Portuguese? Bunda. Bunda. Cejuta bunda. Is that the dance where they fucking put their legs out?
Starting point is 02:20:46 All I know is bunda. You've seen that, right? Baja. Bunda. And isoja. You've seen chicks do that, right? A guy will sit down and grab their legs around them and fucking. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:56 I've seen that. No one's seen that. I'm not doing that, though. I've seen that. It's not for me. It's like a Jeff Glover donkey guard. She jumps back with a Jeff Glover card and just works that ass. There it is.
Starting point is 02:21:08 Oh, my God. That'll break your nose, son. Look at this. He's just sitting there. Nose the asshole. And she's jamming his nose in her asshole. What UFC fight was it when you called donkey guard? It was like years ago.
Starting point is 02:21:21 It was like eight years ago. Remember that? Yeah. This position is what we call donkey guard. Look at this. This girl is hurting his face with her ass. That's not sexy. That's cool.
Starting point is 02:21:31 But when she was ramming that nose into that asshole, that ain't for me. How do you think this relationship ends? Do you think she feels like connected to him after this ride? He 100% got his dick sucked out. Do you think he's got a chance to fuck her because of this? 100%. What is this, in Mexico? Somewhere where it's Mexico? Brazil.
Starting point is 02:21:46 Somewhere where it's hot. Brazil. Somewhere where it's hot. So far, I don't see anything. Somewhere where it's really warm out. They have no AC. There's something wrong with this? Zero AC.
Starting point is 02:21:55 Oh, they're singing, too. This is a whole performance. I guarantee you, this song is probably not your favorite. That old man's about to blow his fucking neck out. They're going to fucking bust. Oh, shit. See how she spins? And boom. Oh, shit. See how she spins? And boom.
Starting point is 02:22:06 Oh, shit. Oh, my God. I have a problem with that. That's what I'm saying. I have a problem with that. It's not for me, bro. That dude seems like he's wearing that shit. I would stop the dance.
Starting point is 02:22:16 Is he wearing some religious outfit? No way. Look at that. He's a cleric. I thought he was doing the chicken. I thought they were in Brazil. Now it looks more like Africa, right? This is like Pakistan or something.
Starting point is 02:22:27 No, no, no. Might be Dubai. Look at that guy. Nothing wrong with that. He's happy. Definitely not happening in fucking Africa. Oh! Look at him.
Starting point is 02:22:37 He screams. And what's up with the guys that like getting kneed in the balls by chicks? They pay for that. They pay for that. Have you ever watched that shit? Someone sent me a funny graphic of that the other day. It's horrible.
Starting point is 02:22:46 You know what I mean? I just got sent in a group message about it's point of view, so it's a guy sitting there and he's videotaping and his leg's open and he has two midgets in little outfits run up
Starting point is 02:22:56 and start kicking him and stomping on his dick and balls. How did they not die? Hey, Eddie, that thing that you sent me today, the ultimate sack fighting thing, that's so crazy.
Starting point is 02:23:04 What is it? They did exactly what we came fighting thing. That's so crazy. What is it? They did exactly what we came up with. Twice. College Humor did two of our sketches for Man Show. There must be a writer that worked for the Man Show. There has to be because they did extreme sack fighting. Or maybe they heard us talking about it. And the Jesus cross trainer.
Starting point is 02:23:21 They did that one too. They did that too. They did that one too. Okay, but it is possible that someone came up on their own It is totally possible guys talked about on talked about it. I've talked about on my podcast How long ago extremes like a couple times act fighting yeah, we talked about I think on mine too like way back in the day I think we're talking about different sketches that we did that were ridiculous We had to have Bobby Lee and Joey Diaz and Joey Diaz kept losing his balls are too. Yeah, so he became a trainer Bobby Lee one. We were gonna give him some fake balls
Starting point is 02:23:48 It was that big Yeah, Bobby Lee was the master and everybody visit him He was like he's on an island somewhere and teach you how to sack fight correctly. It's funny. Just couldn't touch his nuts They were so small the future of MMA eventually eventually state by state are gonna legalize ball hitting when the balls are in play the game changes. We had a whole fucking sketch. You guys totally ripped us off. And then someone made it.
Starting point is 02:24:10 I don't know if they ripped us off. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. That's what I do from now on. I don't know, man. We know when people are bullshit artists and rip-off artists. It always comes to surface. That thing, the internet, it's comes to surface you know that thing the internet it's kind of it's gonna get yeah but you know these guys it could have easily
Starting point is 02:24:29 been that they came up with on their own or it could have been like these guys had great ideas they didn't even do it so fuck them and there may have been a podcast there may have been a podcast where I went through all our sketches that got turned I'd that terrible 30 of them that got denied, denied, denied. I talked about them and I think once or twice I may have said, you know what, if someone out there wants to run with it, run with it. I may have said that.
Starting point is 02:24:53 I'm not going to sue nobody or nothing. Well, you would never get away with it anyway. It's so hard to prove. That was never even a thought. I'm just saying that was our shit. 12 years ago. If you come up with an idea, but you don't do anything about it, you talk about the idea, and then someone else does something with it, that's so much different than you having
Starting point is 02:25:11 already done the sketch, and then someone ripping off the sketch. Yeah, true. Completely. Meanwhile, this shit's about to go down. I'm excited for this fight. Yeah. Cowboys. I'm excited to see.
Starting point is 02:25:22 How do you think Donald's going to fight at 170? Good, man. No weight cut. I think his gas see. How do you think Donald's going to fight at 170? Good, man. No weight cut. I think his gas is going to be better. He's a motherfucker. It's just how does Donald feel after that loss as the X Factor? After getting dismantled by Dos Anjos. That's a good point.
Starting point is 02:25:38 How's he going to respond? And he's fighting a bigger person. When is someone usually taller than him at 55? Never at 55. This guy's taller, has a longer reach. And loves to stand. He looks good, though. Good hands.
Starting point is 02:25:48 Donald looks thick. He looks way better. Yeah, he looks thick. Donald's a huge 55er, man. Well, I think he's had issues in the past, too. This is the first time he's not crazy shredded. He looks good to me, man. He looks really good to me.
Starting point is 02:26:00 I mean, it's not crazy shredded. It's healthy shredded. Yeah, it's different. It's like there's a level of shredded where you go, man, this guy might be a little bit too lean. Alan Gibbon good or not? We're talking different league? Alan Gibbon good?
Starting point is 02:26:13 How would you rate him? No, Alan Gibbon's another level. No, they're another level. And Alan? Here's the Versace deal for fuck's sake. Okay, so we got Dada 5000s on one hand. No, Aki Bono. Aki Bono on one hand. And then prime cowboy.
Starting point is 02:26:26 Who's the leanest guy ever that fought in MMA? The leanest guy ever. What do you mean? The most shredded? The most shredded ever? Gleason Tebow? Yeah, probably. No.
Starting point is 02:26:36 Come on. He'd walk around at 195 and fight at 55. Who can beat Anthony Johnson at 170? Yeah, you got a point. You got a point. You got a point. That might be it. Okay, here we go. Look at this.
Starting point is 02:26:48 Oh! Looking for the right hand. This is what you got to do to beat Cowboy. You got to really turn it on early, man. Cowboy takes a while to warm up. But you know what? Cowboy is a guy that recovers very well from a loss. But already we're seeing a big difference in-
Starting point is 02:27:04 Physical strength. Yes. Look at Tidal Law. He's on on him. We're seeing a big difference in physical strength. He's on on him. We're seeing that early. That's not a fluke. There's something to say about that. The camera's a big one. Unless he gasses out, we're going to see a lot of this. He puts him against the fence pretty easily.
Starting point is 02:27:20 I mean, Donald, I'm so used to seeing Donald just a bigger, taller dude. This is interesting, man. That's the reason why there's just a bigger, taller dude. This is interesting, man. Oh, that's the reason why there's web classes. Yo, these are hard knees to the body, man. You can't take too many of these. Oh. That looked like it hurt him.
Starting point is 02:27:32 That looked like a hoist Gracie knee. That's what I'm going to call him from now on. Hoist Gracie knee. Oh, shit, another knee to the body by Olivera. Oh, if Donald gets him going backwards, homeboy's fucked. Brazilian cowboy's fucked. Oh. He's telegraphing this.
Starting point is 02:27:51 Come on, Jerome. Look at where his hips are. Look at this, like Bruce Lee. Jerome, his haircut's interesting. Oof. Oof. God, he is winging him. Yeah, Donald's got to drag this guy into some deeper water, huh?
Starting point is 02:28:08 Yeah. Bench, trip. Dude. He's just way bigger. Donald's in shape, though. Donald's in shape, and this dude's fading. Oh, that hurt him. He's fading a little bit.
Starting point is 02:28:17 Took a big, deep breath right there. Yeah, he's fading a little bit. Dude, if I'm Brazilian Cowboy, though, do it, bro. You only got two rounds max. Yeah, but what if he goes after him here and gases himself out with a minute left? He might not be able to make it. Well, you're going to get your ass whooped anyways. We really have no idea what kind of conditioning he has, right?
Starting point is 02:28:36 Oh, shit. Yeah, Cowboy. I like that, son. Look at that. There you go. Cowboy's jiu-jitsu is very underrated, man. Now we're going to find out. He's a motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:28:44 Right there, it could be over. It could be over just right with that. With that go. Cowboys jiu-jitsu is very underrated, man. Now we're going to find out. He's a motherfucker. Right there, it could be over. It could be over just right with that. With that, it could be over. Just don't remove your head from the ground and inch by inch set that up. It could be over. It's so hard to find out. That's what he's doing. When a guy is coming in on two weeks notice,
Starting point is 02:28:59 it's so hard to find out what he'd been doing before he got that call. Oh, look at this. Armbar. Good control by Cowboy. Good. Mount. Look at call. Oh, look at this. Armbar. Good control by Cowboy. Good mount. Look at that. Oh, triangle. It's over.
Starting point is 02:29:09 Yeah, Cowboy! It's over. Yeah, son! It's over. He's got it locked up. Oh, yeah! Oh, my goodness. That's a big fucking win, baby.
Starting point is 02:29:16 Oh, my goodness. Fuck yeah, Cowboy. Holy shit. He mounted, triangled. Fuck yeah, Cowboy. He mounted, triangled him, and rolled him over. That was some serious jiu-jitsu. Nasty jiu-jitsu, man.
Starting point is 02:29:26 I'm telling you, his jiu-jitsu's underrated. Dude, that was some shit. That being said, I don't like Cal B at 170 after seeing that. What are you talking about, man? You don't? No, I don't. Why not? Because I think he got out-muscled.
Starting point is 02:29:37 I think if he fought the topper echelon guys. He can get stronger. He can get stronger. Yeah, man. I think he won. He did, for sure. But he did. You're right.
Starting point is 02:29:48 He did get thrown around, but I think he could fix that. Brendan is a glass is half empty sort of fella. No, not at all. This guy just wins a beautiful fucking triangle victory. I don't like him at 170. No, he's my boy. He's not strong. He can't take him down.
Starting point is 02:30:01 He's not strong enough. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong.
Starting point is 02:30:03 Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong. Strong strong enough. Oh, he did take him down. Strong. Strong Jiu-Jitsu. Strong Jiu-Jitsu. Look at this recovery here, too. I like this, man.
Starting point is 02:30:08 Because Alex tried to get open. He's like, great control. Good stabilization. Good stabilization. Not only that, but he steps right over into the triangle. That is fucking beautiful, man. Instead of stabilizing and then setting up the triangle. He was tapping so quick.
Starting point is 02:30:19 He did it all. He really tapped. And that must be a clamping lockdown of a triangle. Like, look at this. Super nasty. Look how he gets it over the ankle nice. He tapped early. Look at that. He tapped early. That must be a clamping lockdown of a triangle. Look at this. Super nasty. Look how he gets it over the ankle nice. He tapped early. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:30:28 He tapped quick. And he held it. He's like, come on, son. Stop it. Is that Mario? Was that Mario? I didn't know who it was. Dude, that was a quick triangle.
Starting point is 02:30:38 That was no fight. That was no fight. There was no struggle. There was a lot of defensive things he could have did. Yeah. There's things he could have went to. He just tapped. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:30:48 Cowboy's such a star. You know, people love that dude. He needed to win. Man, he's happy. Yeah, Oliveira seems like a real nice guy. I would just like to have seen Oliveira with a real camp. It's like when you see a real talented guy like that, it's nice to come in and step in on two weeks notice.
Starting point is 02:31:01 It's a no loss for him. It's a win-win. How's that suit? I would like to see him in a camp with a Tyron Woodley suit. Dude, Woodley on this show, I've never watched him
Starting point is 02:31:10 as an analyst. He's a beast, man. He's very, very good. They won't let you on that show anymore. Is that what I hear? I don't think so. Talk a little too much shit.
Starting point is 02:31:17 They never even asked me. Talk a little too much shit, Joe. Would you want to do it, Ian? Fuck yeah. You'd be great at that shit. I can't fight for very much longer with all this shit. I think. I don't know. We'll see. I'm going to keep trying. Right. Would you want to do it, Ian? Fuck yeah. You'd be great at that shit. I can't fight for very much longer with all this shit. I think. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:31:27 We'll see. I'm going to keep trying. Right. Would you? I'm not brain dead yet, but my body sucks. Yeah, but you're a good analyst. You're very good at breaking down fights and talking about shit. You're smart.
Starting point is 02:31:35 I would love to do it. I'd love to do it somewhere. Why don't you ask for UFC to fucking sneak in there? I think I have. Uncle Creepy? And they said no? I'm pretty sure. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:31:44 It's tough. It's a tough rotation, Joe, to get in there. I don't know it's tough it's a tough rotation Joe to get in there yeah you guys get in trying to get in because they should have more than one of those fucking things they only have one what do you mean a gang of these UFC shows with a bunch of different people running them just like podcasts let people figure out what they like you can have a hundred of those fucking things well Ian do you have a podcast no not really I mean Well, Ian, do you have a podcast? No, not really. I mean, stop waiting for Fox to pull their head out of their ass and get your own shit You should totally do a podcast. And if you did a podcast like just break Uncle Creepy's MMA picks, just a week of the fights.
Starting point is 02:32:14 Creepy MMA. Yeah. That's it. You could get it ready for the week of the fights. And you could talk mad shit. You could suck on your vaporizer. You do it all on YouTube. Where does that thing at?
Starting point is 02:32:22 I agree. Especially if you really feel like your body's telling you, hey, this is the last go-around, get ready for something new, and that's a good way to do it. And that way, you could use the vape pen, and you're like, what are you going to do? Are you going to test me? What are you going to do? Tell me I can't do this anymore? I'm not doing it anymore anyway.
Starting point is 02:32:37 You know? I'll do something. I'll figure it out. Because I'm just saying that doing it through Fox or something, you've got to get sanctioned if you're going to do it through a production company or any of those. And it's hard. A bunch of steps, yeah. Hard.
Starting point is 02:32:51 You know, Big Brown's been through the hoops. It's hard. You know what it is? I've had a lot of people promise me they're going to help me do it and help me figure it out because I'm kind of retarded. With the podcast? With podcasts and all that stuff. And then it just never happened.
Starting point is 02:33:03 And I guess I'm too lazy on my own. So I haven't done it. That's a problem. But now it's getting there. You can't be lazy. You've got to make shit happen. Well, I mean, now it's getting to the point where I have to. I don't have a choice. You've got to make it happen, man.
Starting point is 02:33:12 You can do it. You've got a great personality. You talk a lot of shit. You've been in the cage. You've been in super fucking crazy matches. Dude, personality. You got it. Dude, talk to Roy McCartney.
Starting point is 02:33:22 Unless you've got another idea. You want to, I mean, if Boy McCartney. Unless you got another idea. You want to, I mean, if you got something else that you're thinking, that's perfect for you. But you have great personality, and outside of MMA, you have great opinions on all kinds of shit. Like, you could talk shit about everything. You know, and Brendan and Brian and I and Eddie and all of us have proven, you don't have to be an expert in things to talk about them.
Starting point is 02:33:44 We've talked about everything from fucking genetics to rocket travel Inside job or not don't want an inside job. No, no 9-11 inside job Don't do it. That's a no. I don't know man. Don't answer that. I just smart. You're already smart. Get Eddie another beer. Let's go down the rabbit hole. Real quick. He's going to fuck this whole thing up. Real quick. Real quick. Chemtrails, yes or no.
Starting point is 02:34:12 Vaccines, a killer or an aide? How many towers went down on 9-11? Oh, my God. Two or three. We don't want to go down here, bro. Three, right? Why do you have to do that? No, he knows. My brother's crazy like you are.
Starting point is 02:34:23 So I understand. I hear some of this stuff. Oh, shit. Donald Cerrone happy the fact that he knows that three towers went down means that you know He knows no most people don't know they'll say to most people don't know most people do not know three times We get Jamie trying to save the show by turning up Donald's interview way to go in the background Towers falling By turning up Donald's interview. Way to go. In the background, you start showing towers falling. Is there a button that you press, Joe, like underneath the table?
Starting point is 02:34:50 You're like, change the topic. That's what he does. He puts chemtrails on the background. That's how he gets you. Oh, there you go. That's Southwest right there. Yeah, he tapped me, and I was like, oh, I better tell the ref he's tapping, but hey, man. Cowboy's such a fucking beast. He took a fight against me on short notice, man. That's a strong, strong...
Starting point is 02:35:08 Who is he supposed to fight? You're supposed to fight the dirty bird. Tim Means. Tim Means. Test positive. Tim Means to this day denies he took anything wrong. He said he took a supplement. Everyone does that, though, you know?
Starting point is 02:35:17 Well, yeah. Has anybody ever said, Okay, fuck, I was trying to get yoked, yo. Here's what I was going to say. I regret it. Here's what I was going to say. The USADA people tell us that everything, all that shit that you're buying at fucking GNC, everything is suspect.
Starting point is 02:35:32 They have a list on the USADA page where you should go. I've read it. Anybody that's thinking about competing in anything where you get tested, go to that list. It's insane how big it is. If you're buying testosterone boosters from GNC, yeah, you're an idiot. But if you're... Dude, I've been taking supplements all yeah you're an idiot but if you're dude I've been taking supplements all my life I've been tested all my
Starting point is 02:35:47 life but you haven't been tested under the USADA guidelines NCAA I got tested the other day I mean like a motherfucker the only thing I've been taking is on it stuff and I was doing Daniele Bolelli's podcast and they called me
Starting point is 02:36:03 and they're like hey where are you in LA like well we went by your house you called me and they're like hey where are you In LA We went by your house you're not there I'm like yeah I'm in LA Went by your gym you're not there I'm like yes I'm in LA Here's my address meet me here So you have to drop whatever you're doing
Starting point is 02:36:16 What if you had like tickets to the most awesome show Like you're going to go to a play or something like that With your lady How long does it take to do this Once they contact you it has to be within an hour. So they drove. I was literally parking. That's so annoying.
Starting point is 02:36:28 I know. So why don't you dickholes meet me at like 6 o'clock in the morning when I'm waking up? If you don't make it happen, positive test. Or you get three strikes. That happened to Cowboy. Cowboy was in fucking Vegas for the UFC. They showed up at his ranch.
Starting point is 02:36:41 He's like, where are you at? He's like, I'm in Vegas. You have to tell us. I'm working for the UFC. I'm in Vegas. ranch. He's like, where are you at? He's like, I'm in Vegas. You have to tell us. I'm working for the UFC. I'm in Vegas. And they gave him like a failure to notify. Oh, fuck off. Yeah, fuck off indeed.
Starting point is 02:36:52 Bunch of squares, man. I got one of those for not filling out my, am I going to get in trouble for even talking about this? I don't care. Ah, we'll figure it out. But for not filling out my whereabouts in time. And they sent me a letter and I was like, dad, look. It's in time and they sent me a letter and I was like
Starting point is 02:37:05 dad look it's like the fucking principal sent me a letter not figuring well you know it all is with good intentions they're trying to catch more people
Starting point is 02:37:13 I think it's good but you know catching a lot of people which is pretty fucking funny catching a lot of people if it was up to you a lot of fighters aren't fighting the same
Starting point is 02:37:20 if it was up to you would you legalize PEDs if it was up to you would would uh would you legalize uh peds it was up to you that's a slippery that's a tough fucking slope they legal i mean it was legal in pride look what happened what's gonna happen well pride would happen it's tough man what do you think joe it won't be it won't be mainstream if you do that i think there's a problem here's a problem what we're trying to do is stop progress the reason why steroids are awesome is because they It won't be mainstream if you do that. I think there's a problem. Here's a problem. What we're trying to do is stop progress.
Starting point is 02:37:51 The reason why steroids are awesome is because they work really good at changing your body and making you perform better. Ultimately, when we're watching fighting, what are we trying to see? We're trying to see people perform at their best. So we're keeping them from the knowledge that we're currently aware of. What are we currently aware of when it comes to performing handsome drugs? If you use them, your body will work better. Your body will be stronger. It'll move quickly. You have more endurance. You'll be able to perform tasks with much more veracity and intensity for longer periods of time. So how come they can't do it? Because the, because using that knowledge right now is forbidden, but it's going to come a point in time, whether it's a year from now or 20 years from now
Starting point is 02:38:23 or 30 years from now, where they're going to have some undeniable shit that everybody's taking. That people are just normally taking because it keeps you from getting sick. It changes the way your body works. A regular person's body looks like Yoel Romero's body. We're all going to take it. But then all athletes would be taking it. Right, but then it's going to get real super weird. It's like, well, what happened all those years when you couldn't take it or you had a high that you were taking it?
Starting point is 02:38:44 Because now they're going to have stuff that makes you... There's not going to be people anymore. We're going to come a time when 30 or 40 years where genetic engineering has reached a point where we're engineering human beings. I don't want to be around that. You're going to have a designer... Why? It's going to be awesome. I'm going to be the Hulk. Fuck off. I'm going to jump over buildings.
Starting point is 02:39:00 Joe, you're going to be 110. We're all going to be 110. But you're going to be 110 with the science that comes from surviving until then. They say that if you can live today, if you're like a 30-year-old guy today, and you could live to be 50, you could probably live to be 200. Fuck off. For reals? Yes, for reals. That's the best news I've heard all day.
Starting point is 02:39:18 They're talking about, within our lifetime, some groundbreaking, life-changing shit in life extension and how long you can live and how healthy you can be. That's awesome, man. That guy, that Dr. Peter Welling, whatever his name is, the Regenikine doctor, they're that close to some new thing they're going to do with collagen. I don't know how it works, but apparently the breakthrough, if they can prove what they believe they can prove and do what they think they can do, they're going to be able to regenerate collagen in people. Like what makes someone an old person is your collagen sort of falls apart. Your face gets all droopy. You lose the elasticity. Well, they're going to be able to regenerate that.
Starting point is 02:39:56 How much is that shit going to cost before it goes to the masses? Why is the glass half full with this fucking guy? Hey, Joe, half full or am I a realist? You know what I'm saying? Half full is actually meaning half empty. Oh, gotcha. I thought you called me a hater again. Okay, gotcha.
Starting point is 02:40:09 I was joking. Gotcha. I actually said it wrong. I meant to say half empty. Yeah, you did. But that is what you're doing. I'm just trying to help you, Brendan. You're going to have to accept science, Brendan Chubb.
Starting point is 02:40:20 That's good news. That's good news. No, it's not going work we're gonna fucking die I'm not saying that I'm not saying that if you were a kid if you were a kid and you got polio
Starting point is 02:40:32 you know back in the day it was over and then they had to come up with the vaccines and then all of a sudden no polio I mean
Starting point is 02:40:38 there's a thing about all the different things that they figured out today you used to break your leg three four hundred years ago you're fucked now you break your leg They fucking screw some plates in that bitch ditch y'all up and you're good to go
Starting point is 02:40:49 mean Uncle creepies had how many fucking surgeries think about that all the stuff that you had done to you if you live 500 years ago You'd be dead man I'd be fucked you'd be dead and I would be too and you'd be all fucked up and when you would be fucked up because you Got hernia surgery. I don't know about that hernia surgery i think i'd be alive yeah you'd be fine but you'd have like big holes where you're i mean they figured out hernias for screaming and yelling and i wouldn't be screaming and yelling and you don't know 17 a.d you might you would definitely be screaming yelling don't eat me you're running for some fucking zombie hordes but my point is that
Starting point is 02:41:23 they these guys are going to keep innovating. Every new invention opens a door for other new inventions. Every new technology opens a door for a whole branch of new technologies that are going to come from it. And so they're on their way to figuring out how to regenerate tissue, the stem cell shit that they're doing today. You know, I mean, they're doing some really insane. Boss Rude was telling me about how they shot stem cells in them intervenes Lee
Starting point is 02:41:45 Yeah, that's the day with me. Oh my really really intervenes stem cell and then spot injection. What do they get the stem? So it was are you sure it wasn't PRP? I was both no, but I had both of them No, you know the stem cells is stem cells. Yeah, they are doing stem cells Now the one that I did with in Vegas was from a woman's placenta, from a young woman that gets a Syrian section. She took the placenta and they converted the stem cells. When they did it to you, what did it feel like when they shot it intravenously? I didn't feel anything.
Starting point is 02:42:15 Nothing? I was sitting there and we got it done. Did it work? Did you feel amazing? Well, I mean, it's all here. But my shoulder is healed up. This arm is still smaller than this one. But it just keeps Did you feel amazing? Well, I mean, it's all here. But my shoulder is healed up. This arm is still smaller than this one. But it just keeps coming out of socket? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:42:30 I had torn all four of those parts, you know? And now this thing just popped. I felt the pop down here and the muscle tendon tissue. So it had nothing to do with the shoulder. Well, I tore down here a little bit when I tore my shoulder. And now this is kind of where it popped. So it tore again. So there's issues with the whole chain.
Starting point is 02:42:47 Yeah, just the whole chain. I've been fighting with one arm for one hand at least for a couple years now. Doing work, though. One arm. Punching people with this thing sucks. God damn, you can't make a fist either? You can't make a fist, no. With one finger.
Starting point is 02:43:03 That's incredible. You've had that fire up that podcast. You've had that operated on a few times, right? Two and a half times. You better get on that. Let's go and fire that podcast up, son. Who wants to start a podcast? Yeah, I've had my hand broken twice, three operations, and then one bad MRSA infection.
Starting point is 02:43:21 That was fun. MRSA's scary shit, huh? Super scary. Having MRSA, because I ended up in Brazil with a blood infection. I don't know if it was MRSA or not, but it was in my blood. Oh, my God. I had this infection. Remember when I went to fight Lineker the first time and I made wands?
Starting point is 02:43:34 That's what happened? I walked in the back, and I took one bite of fruit and then just... And, you know, Isabella? Isabella? Yeah, the girl that runs the shows down there. Probably know her by her face. She was just like, everyone get out. Everyone out.
Starting point is 02:43:49 And they just right there hooked me up with IVs. So what kind of blood infection was it, did they say? I didn't ask. How about Denny's knee? Nobody knew Denny. He did the last EBI, EBI 5. He looked good, too. He looked good, but he didn't train at all for that.
Starting point is 02:44:06 Nobody knew. No, he wasn't going to do it. He had MRSA inside his knee the whole training camp. He couldn't even walk. I didn't tell people who it was, but I put the picture of his knee up on my Instagram. See if you can find it, Jamie. It's from a few months ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:20 He was right in the middle of EBI 5 training camp. And I gave him. I said, you know what? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pull you because you're not I got let's wait until two weeks before the show and we'll see if You were we're at and that two-week mark. That's when he started he was able to roll light So we're like you want to go for it? You want to there was so many times where it was a hundred percent that he was out, but I wouldn't. I just said, let's wait. Let's see what happens. Those fucking pictures of his knee, no one knew who the fuck that was.
Starting point is 02:44:51 No, I didn't say who it was. I put the pictures up on Instagram because I wanted to alert people to the dangers of staff infection. Because a lot of jujitsu places, they don't tell people about staff. And so you get like a bump on your knee, and you don't know what the fuck it is. And then it gets worse and then you ignore it. And then it gets to the point where it's systemic. If you think you have a pimple or a spider bite and you keep itching something and it keeps getting bigger and bigger, you might have staph. You might have MRSA.
Starting point is 02:45:18 If you think there was a spider bite on you, on your leg or your arm or a pimple that just got infected, run to the hospital. That's what I thought. Denny could have died, man. I thought it was a spider bite in my armpit. I was wrestling, and I sent a picture to my coach. It was a big-ass thing. I go, hey, man, I think I got a spider bite. And he goes, have you been to fucking Africa lately?
Starting point is 02:45:39 What spider would do that? The staff. It was like huge two white bubbles out of my armpit nasty where'd you go africa yeah where the fuck you been africa the first time i had it was in my knee fucking a decade ago you're right when marissa first came out and mike guyman had it and he goes hey get to the hospital god damn there's something wrong with you that's danny's knee that was that was like three weeks before ebi what a badass he did it so I just did it dude that's I just had to put that up there that's Denny Procopo's knee he's such a nice guy
Starting point is 02:46:12 he was in the hospital for a week he was in the hospital for a week they had a suction machine on his knee all day every day a machine that sucked shit out of the middle of his knee. That's a bummer. Yeah. I think Joe Riggs went down from a broken arm. Yeah? Yeah, he went down and immediately grabbed his arm when he went down. He tried blocking the knee with his forearm? Yeah, he blocked those ruthless, kamosi knees.
Starting point is 02:46:37 I think he might have broken his arm. Good for kamosi, man. Good for him. Kenny's back. First time Kenny's back, yeah. Yeah. That whole situation. I'm glad he didn't completely lose his job because it's not like Kenny doesn't know a lot about MMA.
Starting point is 02:46:51 But you've got to give credit where credit's deserved. Yeah, you can't do that. And now he'll know and he'll never do it again. I'm a fan of a guy getting a second chance. Four, five, six. Oh, my God. Six hard, full power. That's how many times hoist hit uh ken
Starting point is 02:47:06 shamrock six hammer fits in the side of the face i just i think first of all ken needs a fucking diamond mma cup you know he needs one of them compression cups i wish we had gotten them and you know when when they say they say wrestlers no matter what the strategy is like if a wrestler wants to stand you know his strategy is to stand and beg. People say that when the chaos sets in, wrestlers revert to their wrestling, and in the chaos, they're going to shoot. They're going to shoot, right? I think, I swear,
Starting point is 02:47:33 I think Ken reverts to pro wrestling or something. It's just how many times I get this shit, the soccer robber fight, he goes down, he's complaining, he's always complaining. There's always some kind of complaint at the end. That's like wrestling and shit. To me, isn't that what they do in pro wrestling?
Starting point is 02:47:47 Wow, yeah. It's like he's reverting to that act. He's like a showman. Yeah, he's reverting to that showmanism. Because I've seen guys get kicked in the nuts horribly, and they didn't, you know what I'm saying? I'm not saying he purposely stopped, but that delay was interesting. I think it's possible that he got hit in the nuts, and he's like, this is my way out. Yes.
Starting point is 02:48:04 I'm not saying that happened, but that's an option. I didn't think that at all. I'm not saying I think that. What did you think? I thought, well, I had to see the replay to see that he got kicked in the nuts because Jimmy Smith seemed to be incredulous at first. He was saying that it was a shot to the head and that maybe Ken had gotten knocked out maybe and thought he got hit in the nuts or something. But when they showed it again, they went one step before. You see it's clear. Definitely hit in the nuts. something, but when they showed it again, they went one step before you see it's clear
Starting point is 02:48:25 Definitely goes right to the nuts and the way he's adjusting it that sounds to me like you didn't have a good cup You know if you have a tie steel cup or if you have a real good like a diamond MMA and pressure insurance cup It wouldn't affect you that bad because it wasn't like Melvin manhoof was need a minute wasn't that low? You know what I'm saying and and exactly I'm saying I've seen worse nut shots where guys are like, damn, bro. I'm like, hold up, back, hold up. And they get five minutes. He's 52. He's 50.
Starting point is 02:48:51 Those nuts hang low. Might have been real bad. Yeah. I'm not saying that. What about the delay, though? What about the delay? They're actually under the cup. Have we ever seen a delay like that?
Starting point is 02:48:59 They were hanging on the outside. That's what I'm thinking. Have we ever seen a delay like that, though? Yeah. A guy get in the balls. Yeah, there's a delay. Five seconds later. There's a delay. Really though? A guy get hit in the balls and then five seconds later. There's a delay. Really? There's always a delay.
Starting point is 02:49:09 Okay, so that was an odd. See, I thought that was odd, but if you don't think that was odd, I believe you guys. You guys are the encyclopedias. Why is that? The delay is automatic. Yeah. Why is that? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:49:18 The brain's like, ah, fuck. But in MMA though, in MMA, when a guy gets hit in the balls and there's a break, it's the hit in the balls and it goes boom, and the break. There's never a hit and the balls. You know what? That's the longest delay I've ever seen. You know what I'm saying? Eddie has a good point. Watch it again. We never see that in MMA. When you watch it again, let's take a look at it again
Starting point is 02:49:33 because it's kind of a crazy... The delay is long. Yeah, we never see that. You get hit in the balls and the guy goes, okay, cool. Eddie has a good point. We've never seen a 50 year old get hit in the nuts. Boom. And they're exchanging shots. Okay, there was a nut shot right there. And Hoyce hit him good on the chin, though. The one on the chin was good.
Starting point is 02:49:49 The takedown's good. Hammerfist is good. Oh, wait a minute. Now, from that angle, maybe he was holding his balls. He was definitely holding his balls. He was holding his balls. But that's a legit knockdown. The knee to the face is legit.
Starting point is 02:50:00 The knee is before. See, this is what you're talking about. This seems kind of acted out. Wait a minute. Where were the balls? Okay, ball shot. Boom. Clear ball shot. See, this is what you're talking about. This seems kind of acted out. Wait a minute. Where were the balls? Okay, ball shot. Boom, clear ball shot. But watch this right to the chin.
Starting point is 02:50:08 Look how long it takes. Okay, we need to see the whole thing. They didn't show the knee to the chin. Back it up again, Jamie. When he did take him down, now that I see, it did look like he was complaining about the balls. Once the fight got to the ground. Go way back, Jamie.
Starting point is 02:50:20 I'm starting to look at things differently now. If you know it's going to be over, you're going to try and sell it. But watch it here. Correct, creepy. But why would he think it was over just because it got taken down Here we're going to watch the whole fight Here it goes Okay where is the ball shot Right there
Starting point is 02:50:33 That was it That's the one that landed the balls and that's the one on the chin Is he holding his balls is he hurt right there Yes he's holding his balls But was it from the face shot Well he definitely got dropped from a hard knee to the face. In the nuts and face. But he did yell and say, you hit me in the balls.
Starting point is 02:50:52 There should be a rematch then. Oh, no, we don't need to do that. I'd like to see Dodd and Kimbo one more time. There's enough controversy in this to have an immediate rematch. Immediate. Let's run it back. Or a GoFundMe where everybody donates a dollar to make sure no never does this again I'll text rich Joe tonight after this and Ken was he were he sort of recovered his
Starting point is 02:51:14 Against 50 year olds fighting you you guys have something against that what's wrong? I don't enjoy it As long as they're both 50, I don't have a problem with it. Yeah Yeah, I don't enjoy the same age same age where you're not dealing with one guy. There's badass 55-year-olds out there. Chuck Norris at 55 was the shit. I'm not watching that. You don't want to see Chuck Norris at 55 fighting Rumble. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:51:34 I don't see 55-year-olds fight, man. I'm not my cup of tea. And why not? It's very reasonable. Very reasonable. Especially two legends. I like to remember them as the legends. I don't like seeing six-year-old fights either.
Starting point is 02:51:45 No, me neither, bro. What about a six-year-old Taekwondo kid's head kicking each other? Yeah, I don't see that. That counts. I don't see that. I run the kids' program at Oyamas. Yeah? I don't let them spar.
Starting point is 02:51:56 Like, I don't see Larry Bird. Do you let them light spar? Do they go through the movements? Yeah, to the body. They kind of touch. I let them play like Taekwondo kids. They just touch. Makes sense.
Starting point is 02:52:03 But Tyrone Woodley, what a strong beard game. No respect for the internal organs. He's in a weird spot, huh? Woodley's in a weird spot. He deserves a title shot, sort of, but no one wants to see it. But Wonderboy outshined him. Oh, my God, did he? So now everyone's demanding Wonderboy.
Starting point is 02:52:18 And the way the UFC works, I think Woodley's still getting the title shot. Is he? Well, if it's going to go Rory and... It might not. I'm not saying it is, if it's going to go Rory and... It might not. I'm not saying it is, but let's say they do Rory versus Wonderboy. Woodley would have to get the title shot. Yes. Or...
Starting point is 02:52:32 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Conor wins quick against Dos Anjos and says, He trumps all. He trumps all. He trumps all. Then that's the fight. Then weumps all. Then that's the fight. Oh my God. Then we're all fucked, because that's the fight. If he beats Dos Andros and challenges Lawler, the world ends.
Starting point is 02:52:52 Yeah. No one watches anything. Everything goes down. Except for Conor. Every show on television says, we're just gonna take the night off. There's no need for anything other than this. We'll throw some children's shows on Nickelodeon. Where would they have it?
Starting point is 02:53:04 Everything else. Oh, they'd have to have it on the moon. Croke Park? Yeah. Richard Branson would be shuttling motherfuckers up to the moon. Every channel would have reruns of Gilligan's Island. So if he beat Dos Anjos and then he beats Robbie Lawler, is he the greatest fighter of all time?
Starting point is 02:53:19 He's the greatest ever. If he beats Dos Anjos, he's in the running to be the greatest ever. Of course. He's in the running. Look, I say the greatest ever a little bit too liberally i'll be honest i know i do but it's tough to find a guy who's even close to as exciting in what he's attempting to accomplishment attempt to accomplish it's easy when you go back like after the the dust has settled and say well you know you got to look at Fedor. Like, Fedor was the greatest ever.
Starting point is 02:53:46 Yes, he was one of the greatest ever. At that time. At that time, for sure. I think Anderson, if I look at, like, movements and what he's – I think I kind of give the edge to Anderson, but I can see the argument. But if Conor can beat Dos Anjos and he starches him, I don't see any argument. I agree. Especially with the level of the games that are in.
Starting point is 02:54:04 Especially since we've already seen Fedor go down and get knocked the fuck out a few times. Same thing with Anderson. We've already seen them go down. We haven't seen Conor go down. So you've got to give the edge to Conor so far. Sort of. But we haven't seen Conor fight the kind of guys that Fedor fought in his prime. Walked down Crow Cop.
Starting point is 02:54:22 Remember that? You know, the Randleman one. Again, one-dimensional guys.. Again, one-dimensional guys. A lot of one-dimensional guys. True. Conor's fighting the best of the best, and they're all good at everything. It was just a different time back then.
Starting point is 02:54:33 Yeah. No, it's not their fault. I'm just saying, if Conor were to win three belts, he's by far the best. Oh, hands down. That's right there. That's like McKenzie Dern
Starting point is 02:54:42 versus Paige Van Zandt right there. Well, it's a guy who really didn't—we're looking at Cody Garbrandt. And what's the guy's name? Taquino? Augusto Mendez. He just doesn't have the stand-up to stand with a vicious, nasty boxer. For a long time, yeah. Garbrandt can crack.
Starting point is 02:54:58 Yes. He's got really good timing. He's real confident with his striking, and he's just outshone him. What do you guys think of Anderson Silva-Bisbing? Is that next week? Yep. Who's in town? I'm out of town, unfortunately.
Starting point is 02:55:09 Son of a bitch. I'll be here. I'm out of town. How dare you have another life? I so wish I didn't. What day is that? Saturday? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:15 That's an interesting fight, though, at this point in Anderson's life. What do you think is going to happen, though? Depends what Anderson comes. It depends on how much Bisbing can get in his head. Bisbing talks mad shit. He's already been mocking him about Viagra. That's not going to work, I don't think. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:55:31 Look, Anderson had a hard time pulling the trigger against Nick Diaz. I think Bisping beats him. Do you really? In a decision. Wow. And he started crying after. He broke down crying after. And then with all this shit that's gone on, I mean.
Starting point is 02:55:40 You know what the X factor is here? Fucking Bisping's left eye. And against Southpaws, he gets fucking kicks. It's his right eye. It's his right eye, sorry. And against Southpaws, he eats fucking left kicks and left hands. That could be a factor for sure. Huge factor.
Starting point is 02:55:55 You know, another factor could be he's fighting in England. He's never lost in England. Dude, he's an animal in England. They fucking love him. There's very few places where he goes where he gets that kind of round of applause. When he goes to America, he gets booed all the time. He's very few places where he goes where he gets that kind of round of applause. When he goes to America, he gets booed all the time. He's never been a fan favorite here.
Starting point is 02:56:12 No, but in England, man, I've called his fights in Manchester. Holy shit. That's his shit, son. When he gets out there, man, they go fucking bananas. It's a good fight. I think Bisping wins, though. They go bananas. Look, you've got to give that guy his props because Mike Bisping is fucking, he is lasting.
Starting point is 02:56:28 Dude, he's fought everybody. He's only lost a few guys. And most are PD users. And he doesn't lose his enthusiasm. He keeps getting better and better by little each fight. And his mental toughness. I've never trained with anyone like him.
Starting point is 02:56:44 When he fights, he says the best shit. In what way? When he drills, he's going full speed drilling. Boom. Just nonstop. Moving. Nonstop. Crazy cardio.
Starting point is 02:56:53 His cardio is resting heart rates. 34 beats a minute. He's like a hummingbird. I've never seen anything like it. It's incredible. Wearing guys out just drilling. So what do you think it is that kept him from beating all the best guys? There's just something. It's that it factor.
Starting point is 02:57:08 He doesn't have any knockout power. He's good at everything, but he's not great at anything. Jason Perrillo told me he hits hard. He said he holds the pad for him. He goes, don't let anybody tell you this guy doesn't hit hard. Well, no, that's great. His coach said that. I'm going based off his 30 fights. The guys he stopped, he stopped
Starting point is 02:57:23 like Kung Lee from a barrage of shots. Kung Lee stopped fucking- Jorge Rivera. Yes, Jorge. But you're talking about like- Jason Miller. Yes. Like straight KO power.
Starting point is 02:57:34 No. No. Yeah, not- There's just something there. Not that kind of fighter. Different kind of fighter, but- Just a great middleweight, though, man. You don't want to fight that guy.
Starting point is 02:57:41 He's a fucking animal. He's beat some of the best. He's lost some of the best. He's an animal. That's one of the reasons why I was so impressed with the way Rockhold handled him. Oh, Jesus. One of the very few one-armed guillotines ever in the UFC, too. But think what set it up.
Starting point is 02:57:53 That kick. That head kick. His left side is very powerful. And he's so long that you have to kind of stay in his kicking range in order to try to close the distance to get to punching range. And that left kick is so powerful. You don't want to hold pads for Rockhold when he's throwing that left kick. If I'm Anderson Silva, though, man, that's what I'm Southpaw,
Starting point is 02:58:12 and I'm fucking attacking that right eye. Talk to Javier Mendez about holding pads for Rockhold. It's got to be horrible. Oh, my God. You ever see videos of him kicking the pads? He's terrifying. See if you can find Luke Rockhold kicking the tie pads. Dude, he has so much length and torque.
Starting point is 02:58:29 You know, like, I think the scariest guy I ever saw kick the pads is Manhoef. Manhoef to this day is the scariest guy. Pedro Izzo? Well, Pedro Izzo hits a bag. I've seen him hit a bag really hard, but Manhoef is way faster, more explosive.
Starting point is 02:58:41 But, like, let me check Rockhold out. Give me some volume on this. Some fucking power in that leg, son. He walks you down and slams that fucking thing in over and over again. Rockhold both kick hard, man. He kicks very hard. I got to watch Pedro, Peter Ayerz, and Marco Huas. Wait, is that Rockhold at the Mayweather Gym next?
Starting point is 02:59:04 Is that what that said? Put that up. Let me see that. At Marco's gym in Laguna Niguel fucking over a decade ago and just seeing these fucking monsters. I was like a little kid like, what the fuck? How genius is the viral aspect of these YouTube videos where one will show you the next one in like the little play thing
Starting point is 02:59:20 like it starts spinning. Like, why don't you stick around? Oh, I know. You think that's cool? Check this out. They have it queued up for you it's brilliant YouTube rules look how Rockhold is fighting with
Starting point is 02:59:29 Barefoot here smart do you ever go on YouTube and just say I don't have nothing to watch but I'm gonna go on YouTube and find
Starting point is 02:59:35 something do you ever do that he's in Mayweather's gym all the fucking time he's in Mayweather's gym I go with their
Starting point is 02:59:39 suggestions I go to my homepage and they have all the shit suggested and I'm like let's watch some of this shit very entertaining Rockhold's watch some of this shit.
Starting point is 02:59:46 Very entertaining. Rockhold showing some fairly decent boxing. Oh, yeah. Those guys get so much power out of their shoes, too. Their shoes are so flat and strong. The grim. Yeah. It definitely helps.
Starting point is 02:59:56 It's not smart to go with shoes all the time. Ooh, it's sneaky. I don't have a shoe. You got to go with what you're going to fight. You got to go. Yes, I agree. Same thing as side control with wrestling shoes is death. Oh, man. Dude, you could just drive into them. You could weigh. Same thing as side control with wrestling shoes is death. Oh man. You can just drive into him. You can weigh
Starting point is 03:00:07 500 pounds on a guy. You take the shoes off it's a little different. A lot of that pressure's gone. Josh Barnett fought here on and showed up with those wrestling shoes on. And Dean Lister, same thing. There's always cons too. You can get cut. Foot locks a lot easier. Hard to pull that foot
Starting point is 03:00:23 out. How gangster is he then that he did it with Dean Lister? Yep. That's Barnett, though. He's like, dude, this is what got me to the party. Check this shit out. Submitted both of them. Not only that, he's dressing like an old carny wrestler. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:35 I mean, he did. He had like old tight shorts on. Yeah, that's wrestling. Not even a Speedo. He had like a high-waisted singlet thing. He's single-handed. Can you believe he got submitted? Can you believe he got submitted by Rothwell? Anybody can get submitted. Even the Speedo, he had like a high-waisted single-handedly. He's single-handedly bringing back Ken Dressler. Can you believe he got submitted by Rothwell?
Starting point is 03:00:47 Anybody can get submitted. It doesn't diminish him at all. I'm just saying. I got submitted five times last week. That's one of the best of all time. I love that guy, especially submission artists. He got cracked, didn't he, though? I can't remember, right?
Starting point is 03:00:58 No, he shot in. I don't remember exactly what the transition was, but that is apparently Rothwell's shit. If Rothwell gets a hold of your neck from that ten-finger guillotine position, remember exactly what the transition was but that is apparently rothwell's shit yeah if rothwell gets a hold of your neck from that 10 finger guillotine position he just tucks that bitch in tight and chokes the fuck out of you i'm saying if you gave me a hundred guesses rothwell's minimum would not be in there i would say the same do you know the grip he's using what is the grip he's using i don't know it's hidden and you have him and you're almost like a fence because it's
Starting point is 03:01:21 under like he's fucking rothwell's huge yeah is he, he's calling it a go-go choke, right? So what that means to me is that he's sticking something in your neck. Because he's doing it like a go-go plata where it goes into your windpipe. So I'm thinking he's holding his knuckles in some way that he's driving the knuckles. It's whoever his jiu-jitsu coach is. But then he also goes to the side with it. He's one of Hickson's black belts. They called Hickson up the night before, apparently.
Starting point is 03:01:44 Krohn's really good at that. Really? Oh, is he really? Krohn's has crazy guillotines. But this is not exactly a guillotine. Well, it's a form of a guillotine. Something like that. It's a form of a guillotine.
Starting point is 03:01:53 It's fucking nasty, though. What they're saying is, yeah, the knuckles are here. You can kind of see it. The knuckles are going deep into the neck, as opposed to the regular guillotine where you're cutting off the windpipe or cutting off, rather, the blood on the sides. Well, a Marcelatine, same thing. the regular guillotine where you're cutting off the windpipe or cutting off rather the blood on the sides well a marcelatine same thing high elbow guillotine it's a trachea smash i like rothwell over junior dos santos i keep picking against them i gotta stop the trachea smash is nasty yeah those are quick taps as soon as if it's good and it's right it's it's immediate you know who's got a nasty one of those amal You know who's got a nasty one of those? Amal Easton. Yes. He's got a nasty one of those.
Starting point is 03:02:25 Super nasty. He demonstrated it on me, man. I couldn't tap quick enough. It's one of those, oh. There's certain guys, man, like I don't want Uriah to strangle me, but I would like to know what's going on with that. Because he's one of those motherfuckers. And Benavidez is another one.
Starting point is 03:02:44 Gets a hold of your neck, man. Remember when Ben fought tim elliott and he had to tap with his feet dude some shit son benavidez has got some joke he's got some sko we there's a lot going on with that neck a lot of different ways you know just because you're good at one way doesn't mean you're gonna be good at any other well you gotta spend all the on each way. He's he's on people realize how big he is either I remember I thought him I was like you're a giant gorilla. I've been doing you're a gorilla. He's a gorilla. I'm not really gorilla He's a gorilla So look at you sitting next to you. Hey, buddy Look at this. Look at this picture of Benavidez with like a almost like a mount guard, which I love that
Starting point is 03:03:24 That's the most nasty control. And then on top of that, he's just fucking skamushing him. I'm going to tap with his feet. Look at both hands trapped. Can't even say tap because he's eating some oblique. That's humiliating.
Starting point is 03:03:40 That's a professional thing. He tapped with his feet. He tapped so hard with his feet too. It wasn't even like a... No. The second you see that, the second you see that image, you're like,
Starting point is 03:03:48 oh, that guy knows what he's doing. As soon as you see that, you're like, no beginner gets in positions like that. And one of the best, nicest guys of all time, Benavidez is the salt of the earth. He is an awesome...
Starting point is 03:03:59 Oh, is there a video that actually shows it? Oh, yeah. Benavidez is a monster, man. His grappling is so strong really underrated because you always see him like moving well and punching and footwork and kicks and stuff you see him just being an overall fighter but his his ground game elliot was a wrestler elliot's a tough guy yeah yeah when he got elliot to the ground and i saw him just immediately advancing
Starting point is 03:04:22 just clamping down i was like oh, ooh, this is a high-level fucking position for him. Love it. But he's another guy where he's got... You know how badass this was? As he mounted, he hit it. I mean, do you know how badass that is? You never see that in MMA. It's pretty sweet. You let some turn him over. That's just like
Starting point is 03:04:39 classic shit you see in class. For sure. You hear shit in class all the time, but it doesn't quite make it over to the UFC high-level competition. Benavidez has the Misha Tate syndrome, where if there's no Ronda, there's no DJ, he's the motherfucker. But just during the time they're there, you're second best. Sucks, man. Well, also, the second fight they had, he tried to—are we out of time? Is that what's going on, Jamie?
Starting point is 03:05:02 What happens? I don't know. Let's keep going. That's insane. What happens? Dude, look at the't know. Just let's keep going. That's insane. What happens? Dude, look at the company he's in. People stop listening. We just keep talking.
Starting point is 03:05:09 Three hours was a big issue with YouTube or Ustream, but now we're on YouTube. We were having problems with both feeds. One more Ustream? No, we've been on YouTube for a while because we were having problems with both feeds on Ustream. And YouTube is so good. It's the best way to do it because in the middle of it, you can rewind rewind it you can pause it you do shit to it couldn't really do that with you stream So we decided to just keep doing them on YouTube But Benavidez like the second fight with Mighty Mouse was like a pivotal moment cuz he decided to like try to get flat footed
Starting point is 03:05:37 Yep, he just decided like his his benefit or his his pro on his corner is the power He's like I'm just to dig my heels in and fuck this dude up. You peed again? How dare you? How many beers have you drank over there? Drank, drunk? He's only three in. I could use another. I'm not going to lie to you guys. Can it? Are they in there?
Starting point is 03:05:57 Yeah, yeah. A gang of them. You want one another? No, I'm good, man. Thank you. You're on that crazy diet. Yeah, I probably shouldn't even drink this one. I only drank half of it. For the new Little Brown. Little Brown? No, I'm good, man. Thank you. You're on that crazy diet. Yeah, I probably shouldn't even drink this one. I only drank half of it. Well, you drank one for the new Little Brown. Little for Little Brown. Little Brown.
Starting point is 03:06:10 You made a Little Brown, Big Brown. Yeah. He's brown as shit, dude. He's half Mexican. Wait, what is he? Brown, Big Brown? Yeah. He's not black.
Starting point is 03:06:22 Kimbo had to find that out the hard way. Kimbo thought he was black it's a hilarious story they were there was somebody that was saying racist shit they thought and that story
Starting point is 03:06:34 of Kimbo thinking you're black oh yeah he's like dude I'm not black what are you that's what we love about what did he say
Starting point is 03:06:40 what was the quote that's what I love you don't know what the fuck he is I love Kimbo he's one of my favorite quote? Because that's why I love Brandon. You don't know what the fuck he is. I love Kimbo, man. He's one of my favorite people. He's a great guy. I wish him success, man.
Starting point is 03:06:50 Me too. I love him. You should have him on your show, Joe. I would love to have him on. You would fall in love with the dude. I love him anyway. I've met him. Once you talk to him, you're like, damn, man.
Starting point is 03:06:58 Just a good family dude. And just taking advantage of it. I understand. But if he's going to fight on TV, he's got to be in better shape than that. He's got to be in better shape than that. At the end of the day, there's no excuse either one of them have for being in that piss poor shape. It's one thing if they don't have the cardio. Where's the bottle opener?
Starting point is 03:07:15 Open this, bitch. Pretty good. Pretty good. You know, I think he thought he was just going to knock Dada out. So he said, fuck it. Let's go back to the Miami days. But he can't do that. Yeah, it doesn't work anymore.
Starting point is 03:07:25 Nah, you get embarrassed. You want another beer? No, no, I'm good. We're just looking for the bottle opener. What the hell did we do with it? How'd you open these, Eddie? We had a bottle opener. I swear we used it.
Starting point is 03:07:36 It's over here. Okay. What were we just talking about? That'd be an epic podcast for you to have. And Kimbo. Yeah, man. Look, I love Kimbo. I think his story is awesome.
Starting point is 03:07:46 Dude, I just feel like at this point in time when you got guys like Will Brooks, when you got guys like, you know, now we just got over Benson Henderson. You got guys like Paul Daly. You got Michael Page. Bad motherfucker. You got some good talent over there. Some really good talent. Yeah, all the Russian guys.
Starting point is 03:08:03 Kimbo's a draw though, man. And he's old. I draw though man And he's old I don't And he's old Not as a headliner folks You don't need that He wasn't a headliner though He was the co-headliner
Starting point is 03:08:12 That's a circus act It's a circus act You don't need that You could get away without that If you want to have that Have that on before you have a legit fight So you have that fight Unless there's numbers
Starting point is 03:08:22 Unless there's like these crazy numbers When Kimbo fights 17 million people watch legit fight. So you have that fight. Unless there's numbers. Unless there's like these crazy numbers. Kimmel fights, 17 million people watch. I bet you their numbers were better than UFC's tonight. I bet you Bellator's numbers were better than this cowboy card. Yeah, probably. You know what? That's not a good thing, by the way. I have no problem with Gracie Shamrock fucking four.
Starting point is 03:08:41 I have no problem with that. I do. I have no problem with that. Eddie Bravo wants to get back in with the clan. As I'm wearing the hoist crazy shirt. Yeah, he does. Exactly. You're doing anything you can.
Starting point is 03:08:50 I should be wearing that shirt. Why don't you guys switch shirts? What the fuck? Let's switch shirts. He can't fit in that shirt. First of all, that shit's tight on you. I'd fuck your shit up. Why won't you just love me, Dad?
Starting point is 03:09:00 Why won't you hire, Daddy? Why won't you hire? Push me. I'm just saying, Kimbo is fun to watch if he has the right matchup. Wait a minute, you're defending Kimbo but not Hoist? And you're wearing a Hoist shirt? I love Hoist, but Hoist is 50. Listen, he's probably healthier than Kimbo.
Starting point is 03:09:16 You know? I kind of like his chances versus Kimbo. How about that? How about we just go Hoist versus Kimbo? What's wrong with that? Hoist at least looks like a 50-year-old guy. I would still have the best fight of all time. That's the fight. That's the fucking fight. He's already beat
Starting point is 03:09:29 Ken Shamrock. And we do it in like Oklahoma on an Indian reservation for both of them to get their supplements. Just juice to the gills. That'd be sick. Come on. Fucking do it. Why not, Bellator? Hey, Bellator, you're welcome. Yeah, you're welcome. Get back in there. And then Dada vs. Ken Shamrock.
Starting point is 03:09:44 That's exactly what I was going to say. That's exactly. Let me just keep the Dada show going. I think Dada's done, son. All Ken has to do is dance around for the first 30 seconds, and Dada's out of gas. Hey, you know how you know fighting's not for you, Professor, when you have a heart attack after the fight? It might not be for you.
Starting point is 03:09:59 He's not the best sign. He almost died. Straight up. Isn't that a sign of his courage, though, that he was able to push through when his cardio was completely failed? He wasn't giving up? You think courage or stupidity? I don't know. Damn. Straight up. Isn't that a sign of his courage, though, that he was able to push through when his cardio was completely failed? He wasn't giving up? You think courage or stupidity? I don't know.
Starting point is 03:10:08 Damn. How rude. People will do anything for a paycheck. My Lord, you guys. Tonight, I can't say shit. I said that his body was filled with mashed potatoes and fried chicken. And then you say something, and I'm like, well, you said it's racist. How dare you?
Starting point is 03:10:22 I just said how stupid he is. He went in there. Meatloaf, fried chicken. I mean, you hate Dada. You hate Hoist. Who do you like? Oh, hell no. Who do you like?
Starting point is 03:10:29 I love Hoist. I love Hoist. Donald Cerrone. That's who he loves. I love Donald. And Magni. Neil Magni. You love him.
Starting point is 03:10:35 I'm a fan of Magni. Because he's awesome. Dude, Magni has Hector next. Neil Magni's awesome. I love him. Okay, let's be real about that. Hector is 37, 38. He's coming off of a suspension for quite a long time for steroids.
Starting point is 03:10:49 How long is the suspension? I think it's a long time. It's been a while. It's more than a year. Oh, yeah. So what do you think about that fight? When they first told me that Neil was fighting, I told myself I don't like it because Neil doesn't use his range. Jesus Christ. Look at this fucking fight. Who's that? Who's that? Oh, I said, I don't like it because Neil doesn't use his range. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 03:11:05 Look at this fucking. Who's that? Who's that? Oh, my God. I don't know. That was on Fight Pass, I guess. Oh, my God. What a bloody war these two chicks had.
Starting point is 03:11:13 Oh, my God. On Twitter, they said this was fight of the night, I heard. Wow. Jesus Christ. Oh, look at that guy. That guy had some kung fu. Did you see that? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 03:11:22 That is the thickest torso I've ever seen in my life. Boom. Wow. That guy looks good. Holy shit. some kung fu. Did you see that? Oh, shit. He faked him. That is the thickest torso I've ever seen in my life. Boom. Boom. Wow, that guy looks good. Holy shit. He's African. Who is that dude? Bamgoosey.
Starting point is 03:11:30 God damn. Holy shit. That guy looks good. Polwale. Bamgoosey. Damn, people are just getting fucked up tonight. Stinky leg. Who is that?
Starting point is 03:11:40 White boy got hands. Oh my goodness. Fuck's sake. Sean Strickland. Oh, he knocked down Alex Garcia? Holy shit. I like Alex goodness. Fuck's sake. Sean Strickland. Oh, he knocked down Alex Garcia? Holy shit. I like Alex Garcia. Alex Garcia's a tank.
Starting point is 03:11:50 And he kissed the ground. Who's going to get stabbed from kissing the ground? Look at that. Yeah, he is. You got a stab on your lip, son. Damn. Merce on that bottom lip. Chris Camosi performance of the night.
Starting point is 03:11:57 Donald. Performance fight fight. And then those chicas got him. Performance bonuses. That's so weird to me. I feel like I'm watching some fucking Hunger Games shit. Performance bonus. 50 grand fatality.
Starting point is 03:12:09 Extra money. Finish it. For maiming. Career ender. Plus 500. Do you know why they call it performance of the night and not submission of the night anymore? Yeah, because sometimes they have no submissions. And sometimes it sounds too violent. Knockout of the night sounds like it's promoting violence. Oh, who said that? I can't say. Did you just make that up, Eddie?
Starting point is 03:12:26 No, no, no. Is this a conspiracy? They were saying it sounded like it's promoting the most violent knockouts, so let's just call it performance. Well, they definitely tend to shy away from blood on these shows. Oh, on Fox, yes. I was kind of shocked that they showed that one in the replay
Starting point is 03:12:41 with those two gals. Is that sexist Is there any truth to Fox? Fucking say gals I've been scared to ask not to say bitches Like you say those bitches can fight if the Fertitta's leave though and Dana leaves Look this thing the ship is sinking. This thing is not entirely... Who's that? My friend Ashley.
Starting point is 03:13:09 Oh, shit. Ashley Evan Smith. Jesus Christ, she looks awesome. No, that's the girl getting... Your friend's the one that was getting her ass kicked. Yeah, I forgot her ass kicked. Damn, Ashley Evan Smith got whooped by that girl like that? What's this girl's name?
Starting point is 03:13:23 Split decision. Renaud. Oh, Marion Renaud? Is that Marion like that? What's this girl's name? Split decision. Renaud. Oh, Marion Renaud. Is that Marion Renaud? What happened there? Rogers. What happened? Why are they showing that?
Starting point is 03:13:30 Wait, that was the ref. There's a serious controversy going on. What happened there? 29-28, Renaud for me. They're just talking about the decision. I guess it was a decision. And who won? 29-28, Renaud.
Starting point is 03:13:43 Sounds like the other girl won. It sounds like Ashley Smith won? Yeah. Who knows? I mean, they're showing score gone and something really, something happened.
Starting point is 03:13:51 Showed her getting her ass kicked. One judge scored a 30-27. I don't know. We don't know. How can we comment on a fight we didn't even watch? I love it. That's why we do these things.
Starting point is 03:13:59 I'll watch one clip and be like, let's get to the bottom of that. Let's see what happened there. Get to the bottom. More Conor, son. More Conor. They want to to the bottom of that. Let's see what happened there. Get to the bottom. Nope. More Connors, son. More Connors.
Starting point is 03:14:06 They want to go right to the money generator. This is the money generator thing. Oh, Ashley Evans Smith won. Okay. So they're saying it's a bad decision or something. Yes. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:17 I like Ashley. I haven't known her for a long time. She's a nice girl. Yeah. She's a girl that beat Fallon Fox. Correct. She's the one girl that beat that transgender MMA fighter that used to be a dude. That's right.
Starting point is 03:14:28 And she's BFF with Carla. Is she? Oh, that's cool. I got to fucking deal with all of them because now Carla's at my gym. Mm-hmm. How's she doing? She's doing good. When is she getting back in there?
Starting point is 03:14:39 I don't know yet. I mean, she's training hard now, though. Yeah? Yeah. Has she decided to take some time off and, like, really work on her game? Yeah. Her striking? And just, yeah, just revamp everything, get her head straight, and, you know.
Starting point is 03:14:51 She got her fucking ass kicked. Well, she fought a murderer. A little Polish murderer. And she went into it mentally flat. I mean, I'm there every day with her, so I saw weeks in advance. I was like, oh, she's fucked. Do you think she was flat because of the pressure, or do you think she was flat because of overtraining? Or do you think Joanna's a fucking murderer?
Starting point is 03:15:09 It's a mixture of all of it. All those things, right? You get in with a murderer. More Joanna, though. Yeah. Okay, so we're sitting backstage. And we can hear Joanna warming up. Working right next door.
Starting point is 03:15:18 Smack! Howl, howl, howl! Howl, howl, howl! And Carla's sitting there. And I just looked at her and I was like, fuck. Come here. Let's start. Let's warm up. Let's warm up. let's warm up, let's warm up.
Starting point is 03:15:26 Oh my God. Ioana was just fucking screaming in there the whole time. For like two hours. Doing it there to fuck with people's heads. That makes me love her more. She's probably not even hitting pads. She probably has someone smacking things and she's just yelling. It's on a ghetto box.
Starting point is 03:15:41 It's on a ghetto box. It was fucking scary. It's an MP3. My grandpa sat back in the World War, whatever war he was in, sitting, the Japanese were hitting the trees with swords, middle of the night, all night long, whack, whack, whack, and just screaming in the jungle. Trying to keep you awake.
Starting point is 03:16:00 I think everyone, when they saw Yonah, just fucking, Merck girls was like, I'm going to take some time off and work on my stand-up. Yeah, the Juliana Pena fight was the worst. Good luck. Not Juliana Pena, Jessica Pena. Jessica. Jessica Pena.
Starting point is 03:16:12 And that's another girl I've known for a long time. Dude, she murked her. That was awful. She gave her a nose job, full free. She smashed her whole face. Smashed her face. Oof. She's so scary with her striking, man.
Starting point is 03:16:23 She's a motherfucker. She's so accurate. But she breaks her hands all the time She's got uncle creepy disease And still wins Yeah Oh she guts it out yeah She's fucking
Starting point is 03:16:30 It got to the point where She was fucking with Carla And then with all the noise I walked out to that fight Fucking staring at her Wow Like fuck you Don't get head kicked son
Starting point is 03:16:40 You mad Oh yeah I'm looking at her Cause my you know My basic little sister Is about to fight you And then Right She put your fucking If looking at her cause my you know my basic little sister is about to fight you and then right she put your fucking
Starting point is 03:16:46 if you loved her why'd you let her fight her if you really loved her and you see Johanna you know what it's like it's like kickboxer you pull her aside and go listen
Starting point is 03:16:55 it's like kickboxer you're Van Damme don't do it let's go fishing let's get the fuck out of here let's get on one of them wonderland cruises and go see the killer whales
Starting point is 03:17:03 in Alaska let's just get the fuck out of here let's get the fuck out of here we don't need on one of them Wonderland cruises and go see the killer whales in Alaska. Let's just get the fuck out of here. Let's get the fuck out of here. We don't need to be doing this, baby. Because she didn't take me on shit. You better get chung weed, son. She takes her best friends. So fine.
Starting point is 03:17:12 Oh, you let her. I had the sibling rivalry, maybe. You better get marked. No, that was fucking, that broke my heart. Well, she's the champ. She had to defend her title. There's no way around it. Unless she vacates the title and says, look, I'm going to take some time off.
Starting point is 03:17:23 You know who did that in Glory? Valtellini. He had a concussion. He said, I'm going to take some time off. You know who did that in Glory? Valtellini. He had a concussion. He said, I'm going to vacate the title. I'm going to walk away. I'm going to rest my fucking brain up. Dude, good luck beating Carla. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:17:34 Well, that division is just... How about Claudia Gadelia? There's a good argument that Claudia Gadelia won the first fight with Joanna. I thought she did. A lot of people do. It was close. It's very close. I bet you this next one isn't.
Starting point is 03:17:45 You think so? Yep. You guys can call me a hater. That glass half empty. A lot of people do. It was close. It's very close. I bet you this next one isn't. You think so? Yep. You guys can call me a hater. Glass half empty. What are you going to say? I just think Joanna's going to fuck her world up. I feel the same way. Okay, well. It's a different. She could. Or we could see. I mean, we don't know until they get after it because. I'm just saying with my educated opinion what I think. Yeah, I agree. She looked great.
Starting point is 03:18:02 Kloj is a beast, man. Super beast. Nasty ground game, too. She looks like a little Thiago Alves. The last girl that fought Ioana is Valerie, right? Laterno. When she took her down, I was like, oh, your ground kind of sucks. Well, Valerie was tough as fuck, dude. She's tough as fuck.
Starting point is 03:18:21 She always looks the same after every fight. She's got a fucked up swollen eye. But that girl's tough. They say Joanna gets in there and amps damn and goes with the dudes. Just does work. Jesus Christ. Good luck beating that. And she's tiny. She's 1'15". She's got a stylist too. They're like, hey, those white pillows? Uh-uh. Let's mix this up.
Starting point is 03:18:38 That's her style, bro. No, she makes it up. Oh, she's a new stylist. Yeah, she got a little money and she's like, fuck this. Interesting. Step your game up. Got some of those Kanye shoes? Nah, she's a new stylist? Yeah, she got a little money, and she's like, fuck this. Ah, interesting. Stepped her game up. Got some of those Kanye shoes? Nah, she's not that famous. What the fuck is a Kanye shoe? I still don't know.
Starting point is 03:18:51 Oh, me and Jamie stayed up all night. We pulled them all night, and we didn't get them. You know, there's a really big fight at 1-7. What is he saying here? I'd like to hear this. He's saying all kinds of crazy shit. You just mind-fucking him. Can we hear this?
Starting point is 03:19:02 Yeah, turn it up. Can we rewind it just a bit? You can't rewind it? Why can Can we hear this? Yeah, turn it up. Can we rewind it just a bit? You can't rewind it? Why can't we rewind it? It's just a montage of his shit talking. Isn't this DirecTV? We could rewind it. What, do we cave people?
Starting point is 03:19:16 You know, like you see people sitting there watching a commercial. I'm like, you know you don't have to do this. Yeah. Let's pause this bitch and go get something to eat. I agree. What the fuck are we doing? Fucking hate commercials. Crank it.
Starting point is 03:19:25 Now what does Mystic Mac have to say about 2016? 2016, well, the end of 2015 means the end of the Federal 8th Division. They are all dead in the water. It's done. But I have my eye on that 155 Division, and I see them all stuck in the mud in there. The division will be killed, like I predicted. And then it's on to the 155 stuck in the mud division. Have I been wrong yet? Have I been wrong yet? This motherfucker.
Starting point is 03:19:55 God damn. Oh, shit. And nothing's ever the same. He's always different. People get mad at him, man. Religious people are going crazy. They're crazy mad at him. I keep trying to go to the place The guy that makes his suits
Starting point is 03:20:06 I work out with him But it's a little too expensive David August? Yeah Yeah he makes his suits for the UFC Yeah All those monkey suits That you see me wearing now
Starting point is 03:20:13 They're all David August? He makes fucking great suits man Oh they fit great And I don't have to bring clothes That's what I like I can dress normal Exactly I just show up and change now
Starting point is 03:20:21 You have it in your locker room now? Yeah I used to have to bring my own clothes That's why I always wore the same exact shit jeans Black shoes, that's it. That's all I wore. Yeah, I've ever seen all the chain dragging that I do I'll put like one of those anchor harnesses on and put 100 200 pounds of chains and drag it for like a mile Yeah, but give me a suit or five that all fits my little short troll body perfectly see it It's it's hard to find suits.
Starting point is 03:20:45 Luckily, I used to work in the fashion industry, so I know what the fuck I'm buying. Imagine being Yoel Romero. Oh, God. He should. I'm trying to find a suit for one of those guys, or Dan Bobish. Remember him? Round and bald. Yeah, remember Dan Bobish?
Starting point is 03:21:00 Built like a fucking brick shithouse, man. That guy was gigantic. Suits aren't for everyone. They're not for you, are they? Oh, I love a suit. Tell us. A suit? Tell us.
Starting point is 03:21:10 I love a suit. How many suits you got? Couple, for sure. You gonna buy yourself a suit when your kid turns one? Probably. Or another watch. Or another push. We should get matching suits.
Starting point is 03:21:21 I had to have like three or four suits when I commentated for King of the Cage and Pride. There's boba suits. There's boba. Oh, jeez. King of the Cage. King of the Cage. I forgot about that guy. Terry Triplica.
Starting point is 03:21:33 Well, remember when Mark Kerr submitted him with a chin in the eyeball? Good God, yes I do. Oh, you did. Now I'm putting a chin in his fucking eyeball. Mounted him, shoved his chin in his eyeball and forced it in there until he tapped. That shit was nasty. I remember that fight. King of the fight.
Starting point is 03:21:50 He fought. Look at those boys. He fought Mark Kerr, the fucking smashing machine. That's back when Mark was the specimen. Before he even became the smashing machine. Yeah, man. He was the specimen first. Dude, he might have one of the best bodies.
Starting point is 03:22:02 He might have one of the best bodies. He's smashing for the machine first. For white guys? Because the Brazilians called him the smashing machine when he went to Brazil, and he went to Brazil before the UFC. Well, who called him the specimen then? I thought that was his. Dude, that was probably just his.
Starting point is 03:22:15 Look at Mark Kerr in that picture. White people called him that. But the Brazilians called him the smashing machine. The Brazilians called him the smashing machine back when he fought Valley Tudor? Best white man body. Look at that fucking neck. Good Lord. First of all, is he totally white?
Starting point is 03:22:27 Because I would say no. I think so. First team all body right now. He's got my pick. He had definitely the roundest ass of all time. Is that real? Yeah. When he was at his best, he was fucking terrifying.
Starting point is 03:22:40 But the thing is, no one can sustain that level of juice for more than a few years. And other intravenous drugs. What else are we doing? Is that Butterbean right there? That's Bobish. Yeah, that's Butterbean. The Smashing Machine is best body and worst body ever in MMA. The Smashing Machine was a crazy documentary.
Starting point is 03:22:58 If you haven't seen it, folks, pause this podcast. I've never seen it. Go watch it. You've never seen The Smashing Machine? And I love me some dogs. Oh, shit. It's so good. It's amazing. That's a crazy dog, dude. They caught him
Starting point is 03:23:07 right when he was falling apart. They went to him to film a documentary when Kerr was on top of the world smashing people. And what they found
Starting point is 03:23:14 is a guy who was just about to lose it. Like, right when they came along and started filming it, and he didn't give a fuck. He was, like, shooting up in front of them.
Starting point is 03:23:23 He was doing drugs in front of them. Wasn't he gay too? Now that matters, but wasn't he gay? That's never been shown. I don't know if that's true or not true, but it wasn't a part of the doc. He had a weird relationship with some woman and then, yeah, he was shooting up like actual painkillers, like pharmaceuticals. God damn.
Starting point is 03:23:38 And all kinds of shit. Dude, it was hardcore. Where can I find that doc? Is it on Netflix? It's on everything. Smashing machines and everything. It's probably on iTunes too? It's on everything. Smashing Machines on everything. It's probably on iTunes, too. It's really good.
Starting point is 03:23:46 How do you think this guy, a guy like Woodley, feels? Sitting on the outside, knowing that they want Wonderboy to fight for the title, and knowing the reality is, if he doesn't secure that fight with Robbie Law before UFC 200, and Conor knocks out Dos Anjos in a couple weeks. He's in third place. He's in third place. And he deserves it. Well, he's in second place. He's in third place. He's in third place. And he deserves it. Well, he's in second place.
Starting point is 03:24:05 How do you think Conor? Public-wise, he's not in first place, but the UFC does owe him one, right? So they think he's going to fight for the title next. If he does fight for the title next, that's all well and good unless Conor smashes Dos Anjos. Then all bets are off. Everything's off. Who would you put your money on, Conor or Tyrone? That would be crazy, right?
Starting point is 03:24:25 What could Conor do to that guy? Punch him in the face. You think so? He's so fast, though. It would be so hard to hit. Yeah, well, Tyrone is a beast, and he's really good at closing the distance. He's always had cardio. He might be able to take Conor down at will, maybe.
Starting point is 03:24:39 100%. For how long? At 170? For five rounds, though. He'd take him down a wheel, right? He could hit an outside double. Even if he grabbed that really wide leg, it's just getting in there because Conor is so fast and moves so fluidly.
Starting point is 03:24:54 But if he got a hold of him, he would throw him on his head and hold him there for a long time. Damn, Holly Holm and Misha Tate's coming up. That's an interesting fight, huh? Very interesting. Misha Tate could turn that into a's an interesting fight, huh? Very interesting. Misha Tate could turn into a dogfight. She's not going to charge forward like Ronda did. She's too smart.
Starting point is 03:25:10 Yeah, she's going to turn into a totally different kind of fight. Misha hasn't fought in forever. Kat Zingano. What the fuck? She had a hard time. Before the Ronda fight, that crazy war that she had with... She knocked out Misha before that. No.
Starting point is 03:25:27 No, she knocked out Misha, then she hurt her knee, and then she had that Amanda Nunes fight. Yeah. The Amanda Nunes fight was chaos in the first round. She got hurt bad in the first round. Bad, really bad. And after that fight, she took a long time to recover. She had a bunch of issues, like mental issues after that fight. Or her husband getting suicide.
Starting point is 03:25:43 Well, not just that. That was, for sure sure a huge thing. But, I mean, physical, mental, from head trauma, from getting rattled. She had to take some time off. She's taking a lot of time off. She had fun a while. Well, she fought Ronda and jumped at her and got caught. 16-second fight.
Starting point is 03:25:58 And did she fight after that since then? No. Not that I know of. I don't know. But, I mean, she's so good. You don't fight it off. Yeah. What are they doing showing us racing cars? Don't ever show me that in my face again.
Starting point is 03:26:10 Stop. Napa. How dare you, Fox Sports. What are you doing? Talladega. Is this still the UFC on Fox, or is this a new thing? Not ended. They only do it for the first half an hour.
Starting point is 03:26:20 Then they go to regular sports. This is a crazy fucking thing to do with your life have you ever tried riding one of those cars you ever been in a nascar i haven't and i don't give a anything with horsepower is fun but is that 300 yeah it's 300. damn he's still going off that huh yeah that's all he's got freedom i got a new movie coming out that looks just like Spartan. Oh, the same shit. The Gods of Egypt or something like that? When everybody found out his body wasn't really like it was in that show, we were like, hey. You robbed us.
Starting point is 03:26:54 Those abs were CGI. Yeah. You're for sure. They're CGI abs. We thought you were yoked, yo. Yeah, he ain't shit. These cars must be so fun to drive. Yeah, I bet they're really fun.
Starting point is 03:27:04 Oh, my God. Can you imagine? I can't get in a NASCAR, though. They go around the track 500 times. It just does nothing for me. These cars must be so fun to drive Yeah I bet they're really fun Oh my god Can you imagine I can't get in a NASCAR though They go around the track 500 times It just does nothing for me Have you ever been to an event? No It's
Starting point is 03:27:11 Let me guess Cars like this? Yeah Fuck the cars You just walk around infield Or walk around My family's always been We've owned a Toyota dealership forever
Starting point is 03:27:21 Used to So we would always get tickets To races and stuff. It's just entertaining as fuck. You've got 100,000 people show up to... Dude, people love it, and they're diehard fans, so I'm missing something. Formula One is the shit. Oh, that's the best shit on the planet. That's wild to watch.
Starting point is 03:27:34 Or MotoGP. You ever watch MotoGP? Formula One is badass. You want to see a good documentary? Watch the documentary on Ayrton Senna. It's called Senna. Yeah, it's called Senna. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:27:43 It's amazing. He's a Brazilian Formula One driver in like the heyday he was a bad motherfucker just a wild crazy reckless dude he took some mad chances already it is a great already speaking of remember that one sketch that The Asian NASCAR driver who promoted or started hiring or promoting Asian and NASCAR drivers because they would wreck. You know, people really want to watch wrecks. So they'd be like a famous Asian guy that they know they're going to get like epic wrecks. Look what happens when you fucking lose control of your car.
Starting point is 03:28:21 You're getting fucked up. Jesus Christ, man. Damn, for sure put on the brakes. We can't. Oh, that's Danica Patrick. Oh, it man. Damn, for sure put on the brakes. We can't. Oh, that's Danica Patrick. Oh, it's a chick. Of course that's what happens. Well, watch that again.
Starting point is 03:28:31 Watch what she did. Watch where her car goes flying through the air, man. Watch this. They make banks. Look at before that, though. Before, when she gets clipped, it just gives you an idea of how fast they go. Look, he catches the corner, and look at her car's airborne sideways sun. I like when they yell at each other. Heading towards the concrete, man, and she pulled it go. Look, he catches the corner and look at her car's airborne sideways sun. I like when they yell at each other. Headed towards the concrete, man, and
Starting point is 03:28:48 she pulled it out. Dude, she recovered. What a recovery. Finished dead last. How often do they practice maneuvering out of bad spots like that? I mean, that's got to be part of their training, right? Yeah. Shouldn't that be part of their training? I'm sure it is. Oh, I'm sure. Save their fucking life. Well, they have to learn how to turn things so you don't hit things head on. You know, like in that sense,
Starting point is 03:29:11 she, she, she recovered perfectly. But like when you're flying through the air sideways like that, you really can't control it. When that happens, like if you're too close to a wall, you're going to hit.
Starting point is 03:29:21 But there's got to be a way to turn. You can downshift out of it. You can pull your air brake. You can gasp, whatever you're trying to do. She was in the air sideways. Damn, look how close that was, though. I mean, I'm just saying that because I slid out in the rain in my old built Subaru.
Starting point is 03:29:33 Well, that's the same thing. And slid out and just fucking... That's the same thing. Ha, ha, ha. You know, you fucking head north, you can't do anything. She's going 100 miles an hour faster, or 150 miles an hour faster. I grew up driving in snow. Look at Chevrolet on the bottom, Toyota
Starting point is 03:29:45 on the top, Chevrolet on the bottom. What does that tell you? Nothing. Ford right there in the middle. Chevy wins. Dude, Toyota is the shit. Look at that. Depends what era we're in here. Daytona and Toyota's winning? How? Isn't what? It is kind of crazy. It's bullshit. Hey, Japan won best whiskey
Starting point is 03:30:01 in the world last year. And also apparently best fucking NASCAR. But they're not Asian drivers. Japan has one of the most incredible cars ever built right now. The Nissan GT-R. That's a motherfucker. They have a new one that's out now. Godzilla?
Starting point is 03:30:13 Well, they have a new one. The Nismo Nissan GT-R. It's 600 horsepower. They're having issues, though, with it. What issues? It's too fast? No, no, no. No, with the old ones.
Starting point is 03:30:23 With the launch button. How fast? How fast? The first generation, right? The first generation,? It's too fast? No, with the old ones, with the launch button. How fast? The first generation. The first generation, there was just too much power. They had to beef up the transmission. Launch control would blow the tranny out if they did it more than a couple of times. But the new ones, the Nismo one, they say that you're taking turns. They defy physics.
Starting point is 03:30:41 Because it's all-wheel drive. It's insanely balanced. It's 600 horsepower. I love it. Massive downforce on this huge wing. And you know what's way faster than that? The new Viper ACR. Viper just went all the way.
Starting point is 03:30:53 Have you seen that thing? Oh, my God. I watched five videos on it yesterday. I watched five different videos where they were driving around. Jamie, pull that up. You want to see the most gangster car? I want to buy an old Viper. Fuck that. No way. Get the new one. Get the new one. Listen, the new one. You want to see the most gangster car? I want to buy an old Viper. Fuck that!
Starting point is 03:31:05 Get the new one. The new one is broken every single track record. Every single track they've raced this thing on for time, it's broken the record on. Do you understand how insane that is? When does that stop? When does it go
Starting point is 03:31:20 0-60 in one second? When does that happen? This is just over 2. Look at this fucking car! Zero to 60 in one second. When does that happen? Well, there's zero to 60. This is just over two. You can buy a Tesla that does it too. Look at this fucking car. That is, everywhere it goes, it should be the fucking Team America song. I agree.
Starting point is 03:31:33 It's faster than a motorcycle. Just swallowing people. The handling on this thing is fucking bananas. It's more than 600 horsepower. I think it's like 650 horsepower. That was always their issue, right? The handling. Yeah, the handling is off the charts.
Starting point is 03:31:46 And it has the most downforce of any production car. Look at that hood. Look at the louvers and the hood and the vents. And for what it is, they're usually not that expensive for the supercar. Dick hard. And if you watch the videos on it, it seems just glorious. God, they look fucking sweet. The guys are driving these things around.
Starting point is 03:32:03 I don't like that giant fin on the back. That's the only thing that keeps you on the road, bro. Yeah, I'm going to. You guys are driving these things around and they're just, that's the only thing that keeps you on the road, bro. Yeah, I'm going to have to get rid of it, though. About that. He's all style. I go for looks. I love the wing.
Starting point is 03:32:14 That thing is so fast. Just put your groceries in it and push it around. Ah, fuck that. They say it's the most, the fastest American race car ever for sure that you could just go
Starting point is 03:32:23 to a store and buy and the only cars that beat it cost over a million dollars. Like McLaren, Bugatti, Costest American race car ever for sure that you could just go to a store and buy. And the only cars that beat it cost over a million dollars. Like Glare and Bugatti or something? Yeah, the Spider 918. Oh, I love that car. That's the prettiest car ever. That's a monster car. But this thing is like hot on its heels and it costs $160,000.
Starting point is 03:32:39 We're talking about something that loses track time by like a tenth of a second. God, you make me want to make bad decisions. Look at that fucking thing. Look at that. That is the coolest a tenth of a second. That's the difference. That logo is pretty awesome, too. Look at that fucking thing. Look at that. That is the coolest looking car. I agree. That appeals so strong to the 14-year-old boy in me. Me, too, man. It's like seeing a hot chick.
Starting point is 03:32:54 Can you get it without the stripes? No. Stripes. Take the stripes. How dare you? Be a man. Fuck a stripe. That color's sick.
Starting point is 03:33:00 I feel like I want to get rid of my Porsche and get one of those. Hey. Hey. For goodness sake, a blue. Don't do that. Don't get rid of your Porsche. Hey, Scro. Hey, hey. For goodness sake of blue, don't get rid of your Porsche. Hey, Scrooge, let's just get both. I like the way you think. I like the way you think.
Starting point is 03:33:12 I've got to get a warehouse. I've got to build more wells in Africa first so I don't feel bad about it. Well, just donate to Justin. I'm dead, and then we'll get this car. I'm definitely dead. I'm calling him tomorrow. I was going to call him anyway. I've got to throw some more money in there.
Starting point is 03:33:24 I throw money in there every year He's trying to hype this You want to help him We got to hype this Kimbo fight for him Yeah well I'll definitely do that But I think I would like to just get a bunch of people Oh is this the new Raptor
Starting point is 03:33:33 The new Raptor's badass God damn it This is the new one This is the all aluminum one Why is People get mad when we talk about cars Did you know that Really
Starting point is 03:33:42 People get mad Yeah they go You got fucking money? You want to talk some shit, bro? A guy got mad because I was saying that a Mustang is a great bargain at $35,000. And he's like, dude, $35,000 is not fucking cheap. A lot of us out here in the real world have real problems. God damn it.
Starting point is 03:33:57 The new GT. Well, whatever you do, sir, don't ever watch those Motor Trend videos because they'll bum you out every week because i can't afford most of those cars so you definitely can't afford those cars either if you're complaining about a 35 000 mustang and i get it you know if you only make like 50 grand a year that's a lot of money but you got to look at what a mustang is like realistically don't put yourself into it and how much money people make you look at a mustang for 35 grand000. That is a fucking steal. The new GT. The grand schema things, like on the price scale of a Mustang. And the new ones actually look good.
Starting point is 03:34:30 This is the first generation of Mustangs I've been finally, since, you know, I grew up with my dad having a 64 and a half or 65 convertible with a Boss 302 put in there. You know, fucking car people. And Mustangs were so ugly until now. Since the 60s. They were pretty goofy looking until like the most recent Shelby GT500s. I'm in love with the new ones. Those are pretty sweet. But the new ones are off the charts cool looking.
Starting point is 03:34:56 Off the charts. Fuck all that noise. I'm trying to get that Viper. That Viper's a monster. Viper's a monster. But can't put a baby seat in the Viper. You can't put a baby seat in my Porsche. That's why my girl's SUV. You let me seat in the Viper. You can't put a baby seat in my Porsche. That's why my girl has an SUV.
Starting point is 03:35:07 You'll let me do my thing, man. You'll let me fly. And there's no AC, no radio. There's the Nismo. Look at that thing. Look at this fucking rocket ship, man. That thing looks like a turd with eyes compared to that Viper. I think it's so ugly.
Starting point is 03:35:20 It definitely doesn't look as good. That Viper shits on everything we've seen so far. It looks cool from the side, though. From the side, it looks cool. What the GTR looks like is a spaceship, but the Viper looks like it's sex. Yes. Looks like hot tits.
Starting point is 03:35:32 It looks like a girl with a 13-inch waist and tits as big as the sun. I want to drive that. It makes you want to drive it, doesn't it? That's why you want to drive it. A big, ridiculous, bulbous ass that no shorts in the world clown Forget about camel toe forget about moose knuckle
Starting point is 03:35:59 Pussy the way her Daisy Dukes are wedged up in her vagina. It's elephant armpit Pussy the way her Daisy Dukes are wedged up in her vagina. It's elephant armpit That's what the viper is. Do moose knuckles generally is that a turn-on for guys when they see a moose knuckle? Oh yeah, you know the pussy's definitely there. You know there I seem to be I assume it's a joke It must have been a joke but on Instagram or something I saw like there's a thing that you could fake girls could wear like it's a fake moose knuckle I've seen fake knuckles before. I'm sure that's fake, but why why is that fake? Why is that a joke? Well because people try anything to get an edge.
Starting point is 03:36:25 They'll try, dudes will load up their pants with a sock. I mean, that's happening. You can't be my friend if you do that. If you put a sock in your pants? Yeah, you can't do that, man. I'll be right back. Let me get this thing. What about fake moose knuckles?
Starting point is 03:36:35 Well, girls do fake wedgies. You know that? Fake asses for sure. There's wedgie jeans now. Come on. Yeah, so they ride up in that asshole. What? So it looks like your ass is better.
Starting point is 03:36:44 Imagine smelling the crack of those things after a ride up in that asshole. What? So it looks like your ass is better. Imagine smelling the crack of those things after a long day in Mexican food. It's tough. It's tough. Yeah, there's wedgie jeans. Why do you want to shove jeans in your asshole? Guys or girls? Don't press up. There they are, wedgie jeans.
Starting point is 03:37:00 Look at that ass. Oh, I see. That makes asses look disgusting. It makes your ass look a bit better. No, it highlights the ass. It highlights the ass. It makes your ass look like shit. That looks like shit. How dare you? Eddie.
Starting point is 03:37:10 Well, those are flat asses. You're so negative tonight. That looks like shit. No offense. Eddie, you're so negative tonight. Better ass than those pants. You need Brendan's girl. The girls are pulling up their jeans nowadays.
Starting point is 03:37:19 They've been doing that for like two years now. I'm not used to it yet. You don't like the high waisted pants jeans? I like the low cut. I'm still with the low cut. You don't like the high waisted pants jeans? I like the low cut. I'm still with the low cut. You're pulling jeans up your ass and you're fucking up. I don't know, dude. Don't get angry at me.
Starting point is 03:37:30 It's all right. They're just pants. Either way, they're going to end up on the floor. We're just talking about pants, man. Either way, they're going to end up on the floor. It's fine. Bro, chill. It's a good point.
Starting point is 03:37:40 It's a good point. Nothing beats yoga pants still, though. Just chill, bro. Who decides on his fucking trends? Let's pull up our fucking pants up our ass. Who cares? Any girl that wears anything other than yoga pants is an asshole. Yeah, fuck that.
Starting point is 03:37:52 How about that? That's a good point. You know that you can wear them everywhere. We'll take it. We'll accept it. I know. How dare you? Please just continue to wear those everywhere.
Starting point is 03:37:59 Wear them to the theater. Thank you very much. We'll call them leggings. We're going to call them that. Just pretend you do yoga. Just say you do yoga until You took a couple classes. It's just like working out. I like to keep myself in a working out state of mind.
Starting point is 03:38:11 It's like a form of meditation. It's a form of meditation. You have your daytime workout gear, and then you have your nighttime workout gear. That's what girls do now. I like to be sleek and move through the air easy. Aerodynamic. Yeah, it's amazing. It took so long to figure out yoga pants.
Starting point is 03:38:27 La La Lulu pants. La La Lulu pants. What are you saying? Whatever, whatever. What are you saying? La La Lulu pants. Whatever they are, keep going. La La Lulu.
Starting point is 03:38:36 Keep going with that shit. La La Lulu pants. How funny is that shit? Those are huge. They're huge. Damn, they're making a fucking killing with that fucking. Well, they know how to make them, man. Jesus Christ. They know how to make them, man. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 03:38:45 They know how to jam those bitches in. They look good. They straighten out all the cellulite and shit. You can't even see none of that. They're packing in tight. And if the cloth is just thick enough, it can hide a lot of flaws. I hate to be a downer here, but they'll honey dick you because it's like sausage is packaged. You release that shit.
Starting point is 03:39:03 Yeah. No, no. You're right. You're right. They get sloppy. You're right. You're right. It gets sloppy. You're right. You're right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:39:08 They need to make La La Lulu's work with holes in them. With holes in them. It's like a sausage pack. You know what I'm saying? There's a little Velcro. You just go like that. Bam. You don't ever have to take them off.
Starting point is 03:39:17 Lulu Le Mans. Yeah, there's something about those fucking yoga pants, man. It's amazing how dumb they were in the 60s and the 70s. They never figured out any of this shit. Until the Dukes of Hazzard came along, they never even figured out cut-off jeans. You know, Daisy, what was her name? Daisy Duke. They don't fuck with cut their jeans off.
Starting point is 03:39:34 As soon as they figured out that, oh, you could basically just have your vagina a slight tug away. Because all you have to do if you want to fuck a girl is wear a Daisy Dukes. She bends over and you go like this. Those jeans are pretty tight. Here's the move. It's not that easy. Here's the move. The jeans.
Starting point is 03:39:48 Maybe with underwear. Yes. But with the jeans, it's hard. You unbutton that button. That's denim. One button. Dunk. And you push that bitch over.
Starting point is 03:39:57 It's science, Eddie. The dirty ones. Eddie, but she's hurt. You see, Daisy Dukes had the right thing. See, the girls today, they wear Daisy Dukes, but they're so tight you can't even get them off. Daisy Dukes were not that tight. They were falling off. Look at that.
Starting point is 03:40:07 See, see, see, see, see? Look at what I'm saying. Dog, dog. We get hurt. Told you. Those things are kind of loose. One pop of that brass button and that cooter's flying into the breeze. It's ready for action.
Starting point is 03:40:19 Did you see Jessica Simpson in the remake? She has something to say, too. She don't have no ass. How dare you? Eddie, you're so negative. Oh, she does. How dare you? Eddie, you're so negative. Oh, she does. That's a cartoon. Fast forward to her ass.
Starting point is 03:40:32 That's Jessica Simpson. No way. Dude, her ass looks great. What's that in the pic? Jessica Simpson is a voluptuous young lady. Right there. What's that? Is that Jessica Simpson? No, that's a hoe. Whatever that is. She's a voluptuous young lady. Right there. What's that? Is that Jessica Simpson? No, that's a hoe. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 03:40:46 Whatever that is. It's a good time. She's a good kid. Okay. See, Google Jessica Simpson's ass, please. Yes, yes. Jessica Simpson's one of the top of all time. Jessica Simpson?
Starting point is 03:40:56 Oh, yeah. As my grandmother would say, she has a lovely figure. Yes. Your grandma's right. Wow, I missed that one. I never knew that. She got real big. Look at that. She's naked and pregnant. Yeah, get a good one, Jamie. Yeah, she has babies. Don't I missed that one. I never knew that. She got real big. Look at that baby. She's naked and pregnant. Yeah, get a good one,
Starting point is 03:41:08 Jamie. Don't just click on anyone. That's hard to tell. She was so fine. That's hard to tell. That's not her. You can't tell. Is that Jessica Simpson? Yeah. You really can't tell that. The angles are low left. I'm very impressed with.
Starting point is 03:41:24 Dude, she is a banger. Low left looks very good. Okay. That could be the angle. Her and her prime, man. She's top ten for me. What about the pregnant one? Oh, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 03:41:33 Okay. Stretch that bitch out, Jamie. I don't think that's her. What? That is her. Seems like an angel, too. That is her. Is that her?
Starting point is 03:41:39 Oh, she does have a little bit. Oh, that's her, bro. Okay. No, that's not. That's that swimsuit model. What? Yeah, that's not her. That's not her?
Starting point is 03:41:44 That's not her? That's her. That's the one from Santa Cruz's not her. That's that swimsuit model. What? Yeah, that's her. That's not her. That's not her? That's her. That's the one from Santa Cruz. Stop ruining everything that's good in the world. Who's the pregnant girl on top? Sarah? That's her? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:41:54 That's a very, I wouldn't have any problems with that booty. That's a good booty. All right. How about right there with the blue pants? There we go. Well, who's got the best ass ever? Has that ever been established? Vida Guerrero. Vida Guerrero.
Starting point is 03:42:05 Vida Guerrero. Dude. Oh, what the fuck? Eddie, we got a high five for this. Dude. How many people know that? Dude, how about that? She did.
Starting point is 03:42:11 She used to be the booty girl. That was before the Instagram days. Yeah. Before, I mean. She was doing a poster of it. She crushed it. Did she still have, does she have an Instagram? Yes.
Starting point is 03:42:21 Yes. She's 42 now, but still dime-piece style. 42? 42. Look at her booty. Oh, good Lord. Okay,. Yes. She's 42 now, but still dime-piece style. 42? 42. Look at her booty. Oh, good Lord. Okay, she wins. She just won.
Starting point is 03:42:29 You weren't ready for that. Wow. You boys weren't ready. That's insane. Isn't it amazing that the shape is worth so much more? She lives in LA, too. Like having a big ass and having shape like that to your ass. Now they all have fake asses.
Starting point is 03:42:41 It's weird. No, fake asses I will not accept. See, I'm not mad at a fake ass. No. Really? Not at all. You're the most shallow your ass. Now they all have fake asses. It's weird. No, fake asses I will not accept. See, I'm not mad at a fake ass. Really? Not at all. I'm angry at fake asses. You're like, I gotta take this wing off. I don't care if it protects me. This shit don't make me look good, bro.
Starting point is 03:42:55 Look at that ass. I don't want the implants, but when they put the cellulite injects into the ass. Have you felt one? I saw what they look like. It looks horrible. Nah.
Starting point is 03:43:07 The ass has to be natural. Yeah. Oh, my God. You know what? You've been out of the game too long, Eddie. No, no. You know what? It's really simple.
Starting point is 03:43:13 You just stick with athletes. He's not. You boys are out of the game. You stick with athletic chicks. That's it. You know what I mean? If you're not athletic. It's like two backup quarterbacks.
Starting point is 03:43:19 I'm out of play. Look at that. That's not a fake ass. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's all real. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 03:43:24 You're out of your mind. You're out of your mind, Schraub. Fake is not as good. You can't say that. No need a fake ass. Yeah, that's all real. Yeah, you know what you're out of your mind You're out of your mind, Sean No need to fake it. All you have to do is squats tits you have you have to fake it sometimes There's nothing you can do but asses you can build you just squat. No, you can't just tell It's your new lifestyle squat andat and ice skate. And carbs. And ice skate. That's it. Ice skate. Go ice skate. Bitches love ice skating. How easy is that? Go ice skate.
Starting point is 03:43:50 Bitches love ice skating. That's a new meme. Bitches love ice skating. You should have a t-shirt that you sell. It says Eddie Bravo like this. With his mouth open. Eyes blazing. Bitches love ice skating. It's easy.
Starting point is 03:44:05 Ice skate and squat. Squatting's hard, but once a week, no big deal. Mass is all genetics, my man. It is, it is, but you can change it. You can improve upon it. You can tighten it. You can tighten it. And you can make it rounder.
Starting point is 03:44:19 You take any chick, any flat-ass chick who skipped PE class, who had ditching notes and never went, you take her at 23. Whatever that is. You take her at 25. She realized she fucked up by fucking skipping PE class. She realized, shit, all them nerdy chicks that were playing soccer now, they're getting all the dudes.
Starting point is 03:44:41 But if they go to fucking Colorado, find the Olympic squat team, go do some squats for fucking two years, it'll make a big difference. Trust me. Right. But it ain't beating Vita Guerra. You got to be kissed by God. It's not being a Latin girl that's like, what? You might have to inject some steroids into that ass.
Starting point is 03:44:55 Right into the ass. Right into the ass. Boom. Right into both cheeks every day. Bish. Bish. And then squat, squat, squat. Bish.
Starting point is 03:45:02 Bish. Squat, squat, squat. Bish. Bish. So three years, you're going to see a big difference. And she's going to have a dick that she can drop on your forehead while she rides your face. That's a different problem. Let me just rest this right here.
Starting point is 03:45:11 It's called surgery. Go to Brazil. It's in the water, man. They have to walk up and stretch guards. Pamela Anderson right now. She's in this new short film that just showed up online the other day. That's Pamela Anderson? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:45:21 What is it? She's playing a character or something. Oh, this is that new film that's supposed to be really strange. What is it? She's playing a character or something, but that's what she looks like now. Oh, this is that new film that's supposed to be really strange. They did a piece on it. Was it one of those online things that a piece on it? A lot of it is her wearing no makeup, and it's pretty gritty and real. Whoa.
Starting point is 03:45:39 Damn. Yeah. It's a hard world, man. It's interesting what these girls become, because they go from being the hottest thing in the world where everybody wants to fuck them to being an older lady. It's the dude. Everybody goes through it, dude.
Starting point is 03:45:54 But women especially. Women especially, man. In entertainment, it's a motherfucker. Especially Pamela Anderson, for sure. Carmen Electra, all these beautiful actresses. I remember when I moved from Orange County to Hollywood, I thought, what am I going to bring?
Starting point is 03:46:07 And I brought a couple porno mags. I was 21 and I didn't know who Pamela Anderson was. I didn't know who she was. It was 1991. She was on the cover
Starting point is 03:46:15 of Playboy. I'm like, I'm bringing this motherfucking one because I don't know who that girl is. I never looked their name up.
Starting point is 03:46:20 Turns out, she was Pamela Anderson. Oh, look at this. She's like walking along the beach. Dude, that's Venice, son. Hot young girls in their little skimpy things and they've got her like very little
Starting point is 03:46:30 makeup on. And she had a great life. How old is she now? She had a great life. Yeah, but look at the big sigh. Dude, and she's drinking juices and shit to look young. This is bumming me out, Jamie. Whoa. Incense. Incense and trying to get her mind right. Yoga. Namaste. She's still got good hair.
Starting point is 03:46:46 She's a pretty girl. But it's just, when that's your whole world. Never had kids, no cats. Smoking. No, she has two sons. I like how when they show her smoking weed. I'm still not mad at her. I like how when they show her smoking weed, she's like sitting down.
Starting point is 03:47:06 Like it's over. She's like crumpled. Dude, that was a bummer. Dude, you know what? I met Pam Anderson once. Her brother's an old friend of mine, and we were doing some work together, whatever. She lived in Malibu at the height of Pam Anderson. She was dating.
Starting point is 03:47:22 It was after Tommy Lee, but she was dating Marcus Schenkenberg. He was a supermodel, 6'5", and me and her brother were in the back smoking weed, and he comes back and goes, hey, do you mind if I have a couple of tokes of that weed? So we're sitting back, and I'll never forget thinking, this guy, I would never have my girl around this motherfucker. I was so blown away. I'm like, holy shit. He's a dime piece?
Starting point is 03:47:42 Dude, 6'5". Alan Juban would be scared of this motherfucker. Easy. 6'5". Alan can fight, though. Marcus Schenkenberg. I was intimidated. When he busts out that speedo shot, that's the gayest picture that anybody's
Starting point is 03:47:57 ever taken without a dick in their mouth. I was like, holy shit. This guy's intimidating. No, no. He's too gay looking. Yeah, he's too pretty. One of the gays. Alan fucks that dude up. No, come on.
Starting point is 03:48:11 No way. The gold underwear, bro. I love Alan to death. You know that. He's too good. Dude, modeling for me. I know that. Modeling shot?
Starting point is 03:48:15 Alan beats him. Come on. He's a handsome guy. No doubt about it. That's six foot five. No, he looks too like. He's a handsome fella. They just got to stop with the gold underwear.
Starting point is 03:48:24 He looks like too big. Dude, think about this. He got Pamela Anderson in her prime. Welcome to the club. Congratulations. Welcome to the club. He looks too like He's a handsome fella They just gotta stop With the gold underwear He looks like too big Dude he Think about this He got Pamela Anderson In her prime Welcome to the club Congratulations Welcome to the club
Starting point is 03:48:29 You also probably got A lot of things That she was carrying along With her for the ride Tommy Lee gave her Come on Tommy Lee said Here's the list
Starting point is 03:48:36 There you go How old is she 50 something now Nah she's probably Like close to 50 You seen Cindy Crawford She looks Hot as fuck
Starting point is 03:48:43 Yeah I seen her Let's see what Cindy Crawford looks like right now. I saw her in person at a party less than a year ago. She's beautiful. I saw her six months ago at Santa Monica. She's beautiful. I can't remember the last time I looked at a girl and was like, oh my God.
Starting point is 03:48:55 She takes care of herself. She takes care of herself. She's not self-destructive. You know, and she's been smart. National treasure. She's been smart about her health. She got that skim cream. That skim cream got me, bro.
Starting point is 03:49:04 That shit got me. Dude, Christy Br it. She got that skim cream. That skim cream got me, bro. That shit got me. Dude, Christy Brinkley's 60 fucking two years old. That's a far shot. We need a close shot. Listen to me, man. I met her. I was talking to her for a long time. It was a dark party.
Starting point is 03:49:16 No, she's a dime piece, Eddie. It was outside in the daytime. Daytime, Santa Monica. What the fuck are you talking about, bitch? Show me some proof. It was in light time. Look at that one right there. How dare you? Dude, she's 50, proof. It was in light, light, light time. Look at that one right there. How dare you?
Starting point is 03:49:25 Dude, she's 50, Eddie. Well, listen. But you know what? You know what? Christy Brinkley's just as hot. She's a decade older. How about that? Here's a picture.
Starting point is 03:49:33 I used to have a picture of Cindy Crawford, a poster of Cindy Crawford up in my room. That was like my inspiration. I was like, fuck. Inspiration. Yeah, like I'm like. That's why it all didn't work out. I told you. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:49:44 Inspiration. You mean you just wanted to fuck her? Or that's like It's gotta work out One day I will fuck her One day I will get her It never worked out One day It never worked out
Starting point is 03:49:53 Didn't work out That's the girl, bro I gotta get her But it kept me on my toes That's the one Well, that's one thing But you look at Christy Brinkley They took a picture of her recently
Starting point is 03:50:03 She was 62 in New York And she looks like She's a really hot 34 year old She might have found That shit you're talking about That technology She's a dying piece Who knows
Starting point is 03:50:14 She's probably doing Every trick in the book But the right way I'm all about it Papaya juice She puts it in her Fucking skin cream Looking to that
Starting point is 03:50:22 Her skin cream She's trying to tell everybody She's telling everybody This is how I stay young I put some papaya juice On my cream. She's trying to tell everybody. She's telling everybody, this is how I stay young. I put some papaya juice on my face. She's not going to tell those young bitches how she's doing it. No, no, no. She has infomercials. She sells the shit.
Starting point is 03:50:33 Cindy Crawford skin cream. She's 62. That's not a good picture. There's a better picture. That's a pretty good one. That's her when she's 30. That's her when she's 30. There's a picture of her on her 62nd birthday.
Starting point is 03:50:44 No. That's from Instagram when she's old as fuck. There's a really recent picture. It's like Christy Brinkley on her 62nd birthday and she's like in a car. And you look at her and you go, what? How is that possible? I mean, there's a lot of them. Either way, they all look good. You're not going to find one where she looks bad,
Starting point is 03:51:00 which is really crazy. But that's her, you know 62 She's hot as fuck look 60 fucking to and holy shit She must work out all day or not or something could be jeans could be a lot of Together is the right doctor crazy doc yeah who knows
Starting point is 03:51:26 what do you think it is should we call this bitch exercise veganism is it definitely not that no it's genetics genetics
Starting point is 03:51:33 maybe there's something to veganism I don't know I've never seen that anyone like looks really good at a like late age that's
Starting point is 03:51:41 that's saying that that's the only way to do it. There's nobody out there? The thing that a healthy, balanced diet is certainly the way to stay at least in reasonably good condition, but then you've got to find the right amount of amino acids
Starting point is 03:51:57 and the right amount of vitamins. Does it depend on the person you're talking to? Was Helio a vegan? Each body's different. Was he a vegan? No, no. Vegetarian? No. Helio? No. He ate fish. He was hell. He'll be each body's know that was he a vegan. Oh, no he a vegetarian No, he hell. Oh, no He ate meat he read me he had his own farm
Starting point is 03:52:11 He had his own like he made his own cheese he lived in tears 90s and he was healthy He was doing arm bars to 93. I don't know I heard a conspiracy about them doing that weekend at Bernie's with him How dare you weekend at Bernie's with him. No way. Come on, man. I was like, damn, bro. Come on, man. How dare you. Gotcha. Sorry, Gracie. He ate really hard. No, dude, he died in his 90s, which is way above average. The average age of Americans is 75. He also worked
Starting point is 03:52:37 out nonstop. He lived 20 years past the average, and he was still like, you know, you see him in interviews, he's old. It's gotta be physical exertion, I would think. It looked like his brain was still like, you know, you see him in interviews, he's old. It's got to be physical exertion. It looked like his brain was still intact. There's something to that Gracie diet, man. Well, it's certainly always smart to watch what you're eating and making sure you get a lot of healthy foods.
Starting point is 03:52:55 And he wasn't into anything processed, any bullshit. No alcohol. And the Gracie diet, yeah, no alcohol. The Gracie diet's real interesting because the idea behind it is that you make different enzymes for different things. Like you would never eat meat with like watermelon. You don't mix certain foods. You don't mix certain foods.
Starting point is 03:53:10 And apparently it makes a lot of sense. I don't know who came up with it, though. I don't know who was the originator of that diet. Was it Carlos? Maybe it was Carlos. Carlos was super into like spiritual channeling and all sorts of astrology. He and Henner follow it to a T. They're way into it.
Starting point is 03:53:28 Do they? Yeah. There's something to that. Henner eats acai every single night for dinner. They're doing something for a single night. Like a big ass bowl of acai. That's interesting. With like granola and flaxseed and all sorts of stuff.
Starting point is 03:53:43 Well, those videos that he used to make about how to make juices and all these different things. The energy sandwich. Yeah. Well, eating healthy is fucking super important. I mean, that's that stupid old cliche that everybody hates, but you are what you eat. You are literally what you eat. Your body's made out of all the nutrients that you put in it, all the food that you take in. If you eat shitty food, your body has shitty materials to work with.
Starting point is 03:54:05 It's really that simple. If you're not healthy and you're eating shitty food, the first thing you should do is stop eating shitty food. It tastes so good, though, doesn't it? So good. Motherfucker. Dude. And two weeks into no shit, I have had no shit at all.
Starting point is 03:54:21 You feel good? How's that going? It changes. Your face looks skinnier. Do you feel like it? Yeah, I'm losing weight. I lost eight pounds. What do you weigh now?
Starting point is 03:54:31 194. So like 198? Yeah. No, 194 for real. How dare you? No, I lost eight pounds. I lost four pounds a week. What was the most you've weighed recently?
Starting point is 03:54:42 I got... 205? When I hurt my back, I got up to like 205. Maybe even a little heavier than that. I got pretty pounds a week. What was the most you've weighed recently? I got... 205? When I hurt my back, I got up to like 205. Maybe even a little heavier than that. I got pretty fat, though. I had a good belly. A good, like, side belly. There's nothing worse.
Starting point is 03:54:53 Ugh, I felt gross. I would catch myself in the mirror and go, Ew, no more eating for you, you fuck. You know, it got to a... Well, when my back was really hurt and it was really tough to work out, there was definitely some time to pack on the weight. But as soon as I start working out again, your body's got muscle memory. If you don't, torture it with shitty food.
Starting point is 03:55:14 But this diet is different, man, because the idea behind it is that your body starts going into fat-burning mode instead of glucose-burning mode. And if you can do that, what happens is what's weird. This is one of the weirdest parts about it is in between meals, I don't get really that hungry. I don't get the same kind of hungry. Like when you're on glucose, like your body crashes, your sugar gets low. Ups and downs.
Starting point is 03:55:35 And yeah, and that crash, you get fucking starving. You get desperado for food. How long did that take you to get there though? It took a while. In the workouts. Like 10 days? Six weeks. The workouts suck some
Starting point is 03:55:45 fat dicks for like the first week i told you who's been doing that diet for literally three or four years is tebow he's shredded he swears by big won't kyle kingsbury's on that quarterback guy yeah kyle kingsbury was raving about it and he's one of the guys that got me convinced that this is definitely the way to go do you think it's only for certain people? I don't know. Kingsbury is super shredded. Shredded. He's a smart motherfucker, man.
Starting point is 03:56:10 I've always liked that guy. He's a great guy. Kingsbury can easily do his own podcast. And I hope he does. Did he ever get a hold of you, Jamie? Yeah. You guys working it out? He married the ring card girl, right?
Starting point is 03:56:19 Yeah, Natasha. They have a baby. Beautiful little son. He's doing the damn thing. He's an awesome dude. He couldn't have been a nicer guy. And he knows a lot about health and nutrition. He knows a lot about a lot of shit.
Starting point is 03:56:33 Kyle Kingsbury's a smart dude. Got that little ketone meter and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did it with me, but it didn't work that way. You know what? He's up there for top 10 most shredded UFC fighters, especially for how big he was. He was jacked. Well, he's only been on that ketogenic diet,
Starting point is 03:56:46 I think, for this past year. Some, you know, some of the months. Whatever diet he was doing. He's always been super healthy. Always a real good athlete. He just got into MMA. Played football at ASU. That's right.
Starting point is 03:56:56 Got into MMA way, way late. How old? Way late. I think 26. Is that what he said, Jamie? I don't remember. I don't remember. But late enough to're like, ooh.
Starting point is 03:57:05 Around the same time as I got it at 24. Yeah. You know what's also interesting about him? I don't want to talk about it. I want to discuss it. I want to move on. It's beautiful. But what's interesting about him is he's anti-vaccine.
Starting point is 03:57:16 Let's move on. Let's move on. All right, please. Let's move on. Let's go. Vaccines. Let's move on. My kid just got vaccines.
Starting point is 03:57:24 All of them? Not all of them Yeah be careful Did he get the B1? You definitely want to get your kid vaccinated 100% They want to get my daughter There's many different doctors
Starting point is 03:57:33 That prescribe many What they believe are more conservative protocols And there's a lot of doctors Again doctors Who are leaning towards that Because they feel like it gives your baby Time to recover from the vaccines. And it's not questioning the efficacy of vaccines.
Starting point is 03:57:49 It's saying that there might be some debate as to how many you stack, like how many you put together. How many? They just gave them a bunch. So you're saying there's a possibility that if you crunch them in together that there could be problems because there's too much for the baby to take? There's a vaccine court okay and if you if you google it find out how much money's been paid off by people that took vaccines and got injured or ill kids babies that had issues because of
Starting point is 03:58:15 vaccines shit definitely has existed and but it also percent though it's also you have to deal with how many numbers of people you're talking about 300 million people and you know how many of those people are addicted or allergic to walnuts you know how many of those people uh you know if they they get around cats yeah they're the exception yeah but that is the exception also like biodiversity is a real thing they give the same medicine that they give you and you'd be fine they could give me and i could get deathly ill yeah that is a that's a natural fact of being a human being and that's something that's something that people don't exactly factor in when they start talking about vaccines. Everybody thinks that it's either some crazy government conspiracy to make everybody retarded or it's something that you have to do or we're all going to die.
Starting point is 03:58:55 Well, what about the CDC study from 2004 that they had to do a study, the CDC, to make sure that the MMR vaccine didn't, there wasn't autism links. There was three doctors that were in charge of that study. So when the results showed initially that there were no links to autism with the MMR vaccine, but years later, and it's happening right now, one of the doctors, Dr. William Thompson, he still works for the CDC. This is not a conspiracy theory. He said we were told to put all links to autism from the MMR vaccine into the garbage. Word for word.
Starting point is 03:59:30 Verbatim. Into the garbage. So this is actually happening right now. So the studies. Let's find that. Watch that. Dr. William S. Thompson. MMR vaccine.
Starting point is 03:59:39 Is this a YouTube video? No, this is real, dude. This is not fake. YouTube videos are real. I'm not lying. No, no. What I'm saying is. It's on a YouTube video that I can watch.
Starting point is 03:59:46 Yes. You're saying he said that, so there's a video of him? Oh, there's mad videos and mad literature. I don't know about vaccinations. No, that's actually true. That's not a conspiracy theory. You know, circumcision, they asked me today, do you want to circumcise your baby? I said, yeah, I don't want to have that anteater dick.
Starting point is 04:00:00 You know what I'm saying? $400. Dude, babies' dicks, when you cut them like that, first all sometimes kids lose their dick sometimes they get infections like it's it's dangerous it doesn't always happen are you circumcised yeah but i didn't have a choice but if i had to choose today i would say no i'm on the fence is your kid circumcised or not no no we have like three days don't do it don't do it it's fucking mutilation like it's a cultural thing and people like the way it looks better. Whatever, man. You're mutilating a kid's dick. The idea behind it
Starting point is 04:00:27 is barbaric. It's archaic. It's unnecessary surgery. It's trauma. You're cutting the kid's skin. If he decides when he gets older to get circumcised, it's not hard to do. People have done it deep into their 30s. You can do whatever you want. They try to tell me it's unhealthy.
Starting point is 04:00:43 It's not true. It's bullshit. I said God gave you that hood for a reason congressman a CDC whistleblower and an autism Tempest in a trash can and that's Forbes, huh? Hmm I found a site that didn't seem like a legit one. So I've tried to find something is this What everybody would any rather was saying? Let's just pretend I forgot. Just talk about something else. Figure out vaccines. Eddie gets back.
Starting point is 04:01:06 Yeah, we got to switch up the subject. What else can we change? If we go deep into the... Take that down. Take it down. Quick, take it down. If we go deep into conspiracy theory rabbit hole, we're going to need to show booties.
Starting point is 04:01:16 The whole podcast is fucked. Or maybe like feet porn. Bring up Throatzilla. Bring up Throatzilla. We should get out of here. I gotta get up early in the morning. Me Throatzilla. We should get out of here. We really should. I gotta get up early in the morning. Me too, brother.
Starting point is 04:01:27 Let's wrap this motherfucker up. This was the most non-fight-oriented podcast ever. No, we covered some fight. We barely covered the cowboy fight. True. Finally, the kid coming to Denver and Irvine live. Oh, hey, look at that plug. Boom.
Starting point is 04:01:40 Where are you going? Denver and Irvine. Denver and Irvine. Yes, sir. What are you guys doing in Denver? March 18th and 19th. What club? What place?
Starting point is 04:01:48 Comedy Works. Comedy Works, beautiful. Tech Center. Nice. And then we're at the Irvine Improv. Nice. March 16th. Nice.
Starting point is 04:01:55 Fighterandthekid.com. TFATK.com. TFATK.com. Eddie Bravo on Twitter. Uncle Creaky. Uncle Creepy? Uncle Creepy. Creaky now with a shoulder problem. Uncle Creepy. The shoulder problem. It Uncle Creaky. Uncle Creepy? Creaky. Uncle Creepy. Creaky now with a shoulder problem.
Starting point is 04:02:07 Uncle Creepy. The shoulder problem. What's Creaky? I'm helping open a cryotherapy place. We're going to have cryotherapy and hyperbaric chambers in Lake Forest. Well, there you go. Fuck the podcast. There you go. Fuck the podcast.
Starting point is 04:02:17 Let's fire it up still, too. Let's fire that podcast up. March 15th in Lake Forest, California. It's a therapy cryosalon. But yeah. Let us know. We'llth in Lake Forest, California. It's Therapy Cryosalon. But yeah, somebody fucking start a podcast. Let us know.
Starting point is 04:02:26 We'll tweet the shit out of that. Yeah, definitely you need to have your own podcast. Who wants to listen to me talk
Starting point is 04:02:31 too much? I like it. All right, that's it. Good night, everybody. Oh, Jamie Vernon.
Starting point is 04:02:37 Shout out to Jamie Vernon on Twitter. The best. Powerful, powerful young Jamie. Someone get me
Starting point is 04:02:40 and Jamie some Yeezys. We'll be back tomorrow with Action Bronson. Oh, shit. No way. Yeah, that's We'll be back tomorrow with Action Bronson. Oh shit. No way. Yeah that's right.
Starting point is 04:02:47 What? What's Action Bronson? Dude he's amazing.

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