The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - February 22, 2020

Episode Date: February 22, 2020

Joe is joined by Eddie Bravo, Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub to watch the fights on February 22, 2020. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No more vaccines, alright. Is it live now? Let's go, boys. It just came out today, dude. Live? You have to listen to that one, trust me. Guys, we're live. Blow you away, dude.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Yes? We have a new system, ladies and gentlemen. I'm trying to figure out if this is live. Yes? Yes? Yes. And we're live. Brendan Shaw Benji Bra
Starting point is 00:00:26 And Fight Companion If you've never listened to a Fight Companion We're probably not going to talk too much about the fights I mean we usually do For sure Felder and Hooker We're going to talk about that fight But there's a lot of fights going on before that We might just talk shit
Starting point is 00:00:41 You never know You never know You never know So you were just so uh you were just saying that you were in vancouver they were giving you a hard time staying at the trump tower how is it it's nice right yeah i stayed at the trump in uh chicago once it's really beautiful it's really nice you know my brother's my tour manager and he booked it and even i saw you dude out of all the hotels vancouver great hotels, why did Trump Hotel?
Starting point is 00:01:05 He goes, dude, we got you the suite for like 200 bucks. He's like, that's why I picked that hotel. I was like, well, no one's going to know. But then at JFL, they pick you up in like a van
Starting point is 00:01:13 with all the other comics and they have the walkie-talkie and he's like, yeah, I got to drop. I was like, yeah, they're not going to know because they dropped him off at me. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:01:22 yeah, no, I got to drop Shaw off at Trump and then I'll drop the rest of the guys off at the sun hotel and they're like trump and i was like yeah i don't know it's a nice if hillary if the clintons had a hotel would you mind staying there yeah i don't care but bill you don't care about that i don't care about any of that the hotel's a hotel if it's a good deal if there's a clinton hotel there's a camera that's staring at your asshole and you're shitting that's too. It probably comes out when it senses your butthole is over the toilet. A camera just comes out.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Each room comes with its own red scarf. Dude, I'm telling you, though. What's a red scarf? That's what people get hung with. Oh, like Epstein? They say. They strike. Tell me about a red scarf.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I don't know what it is. You tell me what though. I got to ask Hillary about it. That hotel's legit, man. Yeah. Like Bill Burr has the best joke where he goes, he walked inside a Trump hotel, goes, well, this is what he should be doing. Like this is, these hotels are great.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Like this is what he should be doing. He should be making hotels. Yeah, like this is it, man. I stayed at the Trump hotel in New York before he became president, before all the controversy. And it was so calm. Like it was great. It was just so calm. Like, it was great. It was just a hotel. Like, you could stay back then.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Now it's like a political statement. Yeah, now it's a little weird. But in Vancouver, they really don't care. But the thing is, it was like I am legend. I was the only person in the hotel just doing whatever I want. It's fantastic. Do you think that the hotel attendance is like way down because trump is president oh god yes the restaurant no one's in the five-star restaurants no one's there man
Starting point is 00:02:51 how i want that's like the shining i wonder how they how they operate like that it's strange right you think he just has so much money just keeps it running he doesn't give a fuck after the election it'll all calm down yeah it's crazy It's crazy. Great hotel though, man. Phenomenal hotel. Great president too. Edgy bra, Trump supporter. How do you say this guy's name?
Starting point is 00:03:15 I forget how to say his name. I ain't the one to figure it out. Russian bad motherfucker. Is he Polish? Dude, did you see Bellator last night? Ed Ruth fought this russian i think he's russian who's he's 23 and oh and i was like oh he's probably like that padded russian record maybe this dude's takedown defense was fucking filthy because ruth three-time national champion at penn state one of the best wrestlers of all time in collegiate wrestling
Starting point is 00:03:42 he's like you know the protege and he's the guy who's going to do it all for Bellator. He tried to take single leg. Dude, this dude was sprawling. Took him down. I was so impressed, man. Did he win? Oh, shit. Won by decision.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Really? Close decision, but the dude is gangster, man. And that's Ed Ruth's first loss then, right? Yeah, he's 8-1 now. Wow. He's such a stud. Yeah, I watched a little bit of it, but there was too much shit going on in my house, so I had to shut it off. I know, because that one you've got to pay attention to.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah, I watched Bolanos lose, and then there's just too much going on. Dude, Fury-Wilder fight tonight. Oh, I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Your boy got some fucking cash on Wilder. Dude, you got cash on Wilder? What are you guys going to watch? I got a fat fucking chunk on Wilder.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I'm going to watch it at home got a fat fucking chunk of money. I'm going to watch it at home. That's one of those fights where, man, I don't know what's going to happen, but if Wilder connects. Wilder, you saw in the Ortiz fight, he knows how to close the show with one shot. And on rematches, too. He's going to know when Fury... All Fury has to do is leave him one opening. That's it. That's all he needs. He's going to know when Fury... All Fury has to do is leave him one opening.
Starting point is 00:04:47 That's it. That's all he needs. That's so weird. For 12 rounds? How many guys didn't he knock out? Just one. There's just one guy.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Tyson Fury. Well, no. One, Stiverne, but he went back and knocked him out in the rematch. In like 30 seconds. Bro, his record's insane.
Starting point is 00:05:00 How did he survive the first one? Which one? His record's insane. The guy that survived one and then got knocked out, what's his name? Stern? Oh, Severn. It was earlier in his career.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It was really early. He got dealt with, though. It wasn't a good fight. I'm sure it was Severn. Stivern. No, Stivern. Stivern. He got starched so hard.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Bermain, Stivern. Yeah, he got starched so bad. And he got knocked down. In the first fight, did he get knocked down? Yeah, he got knocked down. Yeah. But in the rematch, it was... It was a destruction.
Starting point is 00:05:27 There's memes of it. It was like one of the worst knockouts. He hits harder than Tyson? Yes. Well, here's the thing about him, man. Yes? No one... Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Well, I would say yes. Because he's bigger. No one's had a career like him. He has 41 knockouts and 42 wins. Who the fuck has that? He's got 42 wins, one draw. 41 KOs. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:49 He put on 10 pounds of lean muscle for this fight. Do you see him in the weigh-ins? Well, I'm worried about that. I'm more worried about Tyson. Tyson's super heavy. Tyson's 20 pounds heavier than they were when they first fought. And he kept his shirt on. Teddy Atlas was talking about that. That's an issue. You never leave your shirt on at the weigh-ins unless you're fat.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And to me, when I see that, and you know, Tyson Fury is my favorite boxer. But when I see that and he has some mental issues, I'm like, God, that ain't good. Well, what I heard was that he had hurt his ankles in training. And he was talking about it, saying he did something stupid. I mean, what the fuck did he do that's stupid where he hurt his ankles? Probably dancing or some shit like he always does. Eddie Hearn said he saw something and was like, I had
Starting point is 00:06:29 fury for the rematch. Pretty easily winning by decision. He goes, then he saw something. He goes, I don't want to give it away. My money's on Wilder now. Wow. I know. You never know with Eddie Hearn, though. He's a rascally one. What do we got here? Jamie, put up the fight card so we can see what's going on. This is the first fight of the night. Here we go. Wow It's a rascally one What do we got here? Magomed How do you say What's
Starting point is 00:06:45 Jamie put up the fight card So we can see what's going on This is the first fight of the night Here we go Brad Riddle Magomed Mustafev Mustafev
Starting point is 00:06:54 How do you say it? Mustafev They tell you how to say it Right Joe? Like you'll have someone Yes They tell you how to say it Like John Anik's really good at it
Starting point is 00:07:01 John Anik's the best at it We actually go over it Before I do the weigh-ins. I still fuck it up all the time. It's so tough. It's hard. What's the hardest one even still? Zabit?
Starting point is 00:07:12 His last name? No. You got Zabit's last name down? Yeah, Megamed Sharapov. That's not that hard. Joanna, maybe. Yun-Jit-Chick? For a long time, Yun-Jit-Chick.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Yun-Jit-Chick? Yeah. It sounds like you're going backwards with a record. Yun-Jit-Chick? Yun-Jit Junchik? Yeah. It sounds like you're going backwards with a record. Junchik? Junchik. Yeah. Number nine? There we go.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah, Ioana is probably the hardest. Dude, that boy, Ben Soseli, is thick down there on the card. The heavyweight, the one after this? Those are heavyweights, right, Jimmy? That boy on the left is thick fucking central, dog. God damn. Six foot, all 265 of them. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Aside from that one. Go back to the current card, Brad Riddle. That's this Brad Riddle fellow. What is this, coffee? I got coffee here. You boys trying to whiskey up a little bit? I'm ready to whiskey up. Jamie, where's the Buffalo Tres?
Starting point is 00:08:06 You want me to grab it? No, it should be on the table. You know what was great, Joe? Last night for JFL, I did the Vogue Theater, and the early show was Kill Tony. Bring it over here, Jamie. So it was Hinchcliffe, Red Band, Jeremiah, all the boys were there. So when we got in the in the green room all of them were there
Starting point is 00:08:26 that's what those festivals are for you're just with your boys man yeah but we always do that at the comedy store like almost every night
Starting point is 00:08:32 I know that's what's funny about those things you go right to the people that you already hang out with at the comedy store that's all you do yeah
Starting point is 00:08:37 I haven't been one of those things those JFL things in fucking forever I used to go to them every year yeah a lot of people do right
Starting point is 00:08:44 how about that HBO comedy festival that we did in Aspen? Or that you did, and I tagged along with you? Back in the day. Only time I've ever been on a private jet to this day. Sick.
Starting point is 00:08:55 First and last. And that was a crazy one, too, because they really just designed that because the executives wanted to go skiing. So they go, we'll have a festival. Bro, they were barely paying attention to the comedy they're all just into skiing because it's aspen and hell no and
Starting point is 00:09:09 people were partying and skiing and no one got any deals there was no deals what a waste of time that was a lot of waste and the plane ride smaller private jet me joe chris rock louis ck and uh their managers fun. It was a trip. How about Annie Letterman opened up for fucking Louis CK? Yeah, she's doing a bunch of gigs with Louis. Yeah. She did Louis in Denver. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Salute, boys. Oh, shit. God damn it. Cheers. These aren't shots, right? No, this is whiskey. We're like, gentlemen, this is Buffalo Trace. Some grown man shit.
Starting point is 00:09:49 This is a company from the fucking 1700s. They make all the good shit you drink. That's legit whiskey. The best, yeah. I got into Japanese whiskeys lately, but Buffalo Trace is still the best. That's American, son. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I feel like a trader. God damn, Buffalo. It's from Kentucky. Yeah, you're right. I feel like a trader. That's the real It's from Kentucky. Yeah, you're right. I feel like a traitor. That's the real shit. Buffalo Trace is the real shit. That's my rider from my green room. I got a bottle of Buffalo Trace everywhere I go, son.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Ear pound it. That's what I do. It's the only demand I have. Just get a couple of shots. Get the party rolling. Woo! Hell yeah. So they're in New Zealand tonight?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Is that where they are? Yeah, New Zealand. That's why it's early, right? That's right. Thank God. If you're a fight fan, you can watch all this card and then watch Tyson and fucking... So they're in New Zealand tonight Is that where they are Yeah New Zealand That's why it's early right That's right Thank god If you're a fight fan You can watch all this card And then watch Tyson
Starting point is 00:10:28 And fucking Yeah Angela Hill Was on last week And she was ready to She won today Congratulations to Angela She flew 15 fucking hours From here
Starting point is 00:10:37 Imagine you fly 15 hours And you got a couple of days Trying to shake the cobwebs out And then you got a fight Jesus Christ And she won Yeah She's such a little badass She's a beast beast she's getting better way better yeah it's interesting
Starting point is 00:10:49 you know she's only been doing martial arts all just any martial art for 10 years damn what she did growing up nothing 10 years is a lot though it's a lot when she first started fighting the ufc she has been doing martial arts training, period, four years. I was like, what? That's nothing. But she was already 18 and 0 in Muay Thai. How crazy is that? That's pretty nuts. Bro, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:13 She's fun. Was she a good interview? Oh, she's hilarious. She's great. I had Pete go on. Oh, how was he? I love him. Really?
Starting point is 00:11:21 God, you just root for him more. He's such a good dude. He's still so young, man. He's so young. It's interesting. People have already written him just root for him more. He's such a good dude. He's still so young, man. He's so young. It's interesting. People have already written him off. Which is insane. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:30 How about that one fight that we saw live on the show? Oh, my God. That was insane. That was nuts. I fell out of my chair. Yeah, when he got cracked. Yeah. He's with Jacksons now.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I know. It's interesting. He's like his mentor. He left all his trainers? Yeah, he was out here. And then he's like, the LA hustle's rough his mentor. He left all his trainers? Yeah, he was out here, yeah. And then he's like, LA hustle's rough, man. I used to be in it where you're driving all around.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And he's like, I need one spot. So he went to Jackson's. One spot's the move, man. 100%. Less shit to think about, man. All these people that have to travel and do wrestling over here, jiu-jitsu over there. It's like it's got to wear on you. It's got to wear on you all that time.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Oh! Beautiful right hand. Oh, that's... Last night in Bellator, that other champ, I think he's one of Chael Soen's guys, got knocked out. My fight clock is not working, by the way.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Oh, it's not? No, it's an error. It's making it go in five seconds. Oh, he's going for a leg lock. Look at that. Oh, it's not? No, it's an error. It's making it go in five seconds. Oh, he's going for a leg lock. Look at that. Oh, interesting. Look at that shit.
Starting point is 00:12:30 He might have it. Oh, no, his knee's out. Oh, he's good. Damn, he went for it. And you know what? You saw that right there? You know what he did? He went for a leg lock. Didn't work.
Starting point is 00:12:43 He stood up. So that could have been planned. Oh, for sure. You understand that? You attack the leg. there you know what he did he went for a leg lock didn't work he stood up so that was a that was that could have been planned oh you understand that you attack the leg just like damien maya did to ben askren yeah so you can get that sweet down uh 3 14 in the clock right now 3 13 3 12 3 11 3 10 so if you want to sync it up that's where we're at um we're watching Mustafaev I think that's how you say his name Versus Riddle I like Hardy as a commentator man
Starting point is 00:13:12 Dude he's great He's great Dan Hardy's a fucking awesome guy Beast yeah He's just an awesome guy He still wants to fight That's so strange For what?
Starting point is 00:13:20 I think he just feels like He wants one more challenge He wants to fight at 170 Which is crazy Cause he's real thin now He looks like he wants one more challenge. He wants to fight at 170, which is crazy because he's real thin now. He looks like he weighs about 170. He was always fighting at 170, though. I know, but he's really thin now.
Starting point is 00:13:32 He was way thicker before. He's not training so much? I just don't think he lifts weights anymore. Maybe he's on that vegan shit. He might have gone plant-based. Vegan shit is so hot right now. Plant-based. He probably was shot.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I was like, oh, wow. That's 111 pounds. He says he feels better than ever. But you know what? You got to think. Rashad was talking about how great his endurance is. If you lose muscle mass, you will gain endurance. That is a fact.
Starting point is 00:13:56 You have less tissue than your body's pumping blood through. You got to be careful, though, right? That's why the Wilder fight is weird tonight because Wilder gained muscle. And when you gain that weight, that is more tissue that your body has to pump blood through. And we'll see. Because one of the things about Wilder. Ten more pounds, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Well, that's true, too. But then you've got to look at the you need more work to move stuff because you don't have the muscle. I mean, doesn't it balance out like that? You need more work to move stuff? Yeah, because you have less muscle. So to move a body, you're going to need more energy. Oh, yeah, in an MMA fight, but not in a boxing match. In a boxing match, like in the first fight, Wilder weighed 209 pounds.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Crazy. Yeah, crazy. And he still was fucking one shot and puts Tyson Fury down. He's got crazy power even at 209 but i think there's an advantage for him being really light in that he maintains his endurance like deep into the fight in the 12th round he still has crazy knockout power whereas if he starts to fatigue in the 10 11 and 12 rounds because of extra weight that would be a shame i think he knows that if it goes past like eight he's not not going to outpoint Fury.
Starting point is 00:15:06 That ain't happening. He has to finish him. So he doubled down on that, put 10 pounds on. Maybe, yeah. And then Fury was like, oh, cool, hold my beer, and then put on a ton more weight. He's 270. That ain't good. Especially with his style.
Starting point is 00:15:18 He was a little chubby in the first fight. Yeah. He had a little. The first fight's fine, though, because he really shouldn't have took that fight at the time. He fought like two just tomato cans. Then they tossed him to Wilder. Yeah. He had a little. The first fight's fine, though, because he really shouldn't have took that fight at the time. He fought like two just tomato cans. Then they tossed him to Wilder. Yeah. It wasn't smart, man.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Well, we'll see what happens. I can't wait. I'm interested in who changes things up and how they change things up. The thing about Tyson Fury is he's probably the best boxer in the heavyweight division. He's 6'9". He's got beautiful movement. He switches stances. He'll fight you southpaw, orthodox.
Starting point is 00:15:50 He throws punches while he's switching. But fucking Wilder can turn the lights off with one shot. And for 12 rounds? This is what he says. He says, they have to be perfect for all 12 rounds. He goes, I just have to be perfect for one second. And Fury ain't knocking him out. It's not his thing.
Starting point is 00:16:07 That's not his MO. He says he's going to. I know. All right, play that game. Two rounds. Two rounds. Two rounds. The winner of this, well, you'll probably get a trilogy match
Starting point is 00:16:16 because it's in their contract. They have 30 days or something like that to agree to a trilogy fight. Is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to see Joshua versus Wilder, though. I think Wilder puts the it is? Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to see Joshua versus Wilder though. I think Wilder puts the lights out on that.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah. I think Joshua is an interesting fighter. He's smart. He's a great boxer but even he's realized that being too bulky cost him.
Starting point is 00:16:36 So he's slimmed down a lot. He doesn't lift weights anymore. He looked great against Ruiz. He looked very good against Ruiz. He boxed him. I would have liked to see him trying to take it to Ruiz
Starting point is 00:16:46 I know Trying to get it back He had too much on the line didn't he He got stopped in that first fight You know I'd like to see him In the second fight stop him That Ruiz got big dude He got too big
Starting point is 00:16:56 On what 35 pounds He was 280 He was fat Hilarious How much did he wear in the first fight He probably was 260 He's 60 something He came in like So he came in 20 first fight? He probably was 260. He's 60-something. He came in 20 pounds heavier in the rematch.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Almost 30. That's like Rocky II right there, man. But he was fat and he had been partying. Yeah, he didn't take it seriously. I don't know if he didn't take it seriously. I just think he was having a good fucking time. Well, you can't take it serious if you're not too good of a time. I probably thought it was going to be a tough fight, but he also-
Starting point is 00:17:25 But he also loves quesadillas. Wanted to party. And eat fucking tacos. All the tacos. Yeah, if that guy got a nutritionist, he'd be a light heavyweight. He's not a big guy. No, he's short. Good for him, though, man.
Starting point is 00:17:39 He's a world champ. But he's a fucking phenomenal boxer. Great hand. His hand speed and his coordination is incredible. I'm excited to see if he gets his shit together. I want to see him get his shit together. I want to see him fight Ortiz. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah. Well, Ortiz is 85 years old. I know, but just like a big fat Mexican versus Cuban. I wonder if he's ever going to be the same again after that right hand. Probably not. Wilder, that right hand was crazy. He's also, like you said, 60. At least. At least. At least at least those cubans man i mean everybody says that about the cubans you really have no idea how old they are and they also have like 900 fights before they come turn pro
Starting point is 00:18:16 you're like oh yeah that's happening for sure yeah for sure a lot of amateur fights yeah they're talking about Canelo vs. Billy Joe Saunders Yes I think it's kind of confirmed We've been talking about this for a while That's a very interesting fight Very interesting fight
Starting point is 00:18:32 My number one fight Is Terrence Crawford Versus Errol Spence Jr. Errol Spence Jr. And Terrence Crawford Is the number one fight Love that fight Never gonna see it
Starting point is 00:18:40 You don't think so? No because the stupid promoter's in boxing They're ruining boxing Way to go guys i don't know there's a lot of money in that fight man there is come together but it's just like you know it's just like with pat gow and mayweather like we get it four or five years late it's just what boxing does yeah it's such a shame that's why the ufc went cool story dude and just sailed on past and just crushing it because we get the fights you want to see. Every time you get the fight you want to see.
Starting point is 00:19:06 This fight's pretty good right here. We wouldn't have even watched it. How do you say it? Is it Riddell or Riddle? Is it possible to put the fight on there too? Because his head's in the way, no? That big ass head. This giant nugget.
Starting point is 00:19:18 With that MAGA hat. Staying in the Trump Tower wearing a MAGA hat. No, wearing a hat that says Supreme. Supreme MAGA. Dude, that could be White supremacy right there Oh my god It's MAGA colors And it says Supreme
Starting point is 00:19:28 You can't wear red hats These days You can't wear red hats At all huh Isn't that funny You'll get killed So ridiculous Red hat with white letters
Starting point is 00:19:35 Someone will try to fuck you up I wear this all the time It says make America great again It's hilarious I wear this all the time Come at me bro A lady got maced in the face Cause she had a hat
Starting point is 00:19:44 That said make Bitcoin great again And someone got maced in the face because she had a hat that said, make Bitcoin great again. And someone maced her in the face. Fuck yeah. Like, you can't make Bitcoin great again? Also a stupid hat. Also a stupid hat. Yeah, but I mean, imagine. She'd get maced in the face, though.
Starting point is 00:19:57 If you get maced for having a stupid hat, how about those pussy hats those girls wear? Oh my God. Those women's marches. Oh, I was in Dallas. They had those on. They look absolutely ridiculous. What are they? The pussy hats.
Starting point is 00:20:09 They're these pink. Pussy hats. Girls wear hats like pussy hats. Like big pussies on them? Like a cat with little ears. It's pink. It's like because of the grab my pussy thing. Grab them by the pussy.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Meow. Get it? LOL. Well, your boy Bloomberg got lit up and they fucking lighten his ass up. It was like Comedy Central roast. Listen, you can't buy your way into the White House. No, dude. People think you can.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Because they think, well, Trump did it. No, he didn't. He's still got charisma. Bloomberg has zero of that. Zero. There's nothing popping there. And you can't hire people to write funny things for you. That shit ain't going to work.
Starting point is 00:20:45 No, it's terrible for them. All of it's gross. They're trying to steal it from Bernie. They're trying to steal it. He won today in Nevada. Bernie's killing it. It's over. I'm not mad at my boy Pete.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Don't have the experience. Suck your dick. But he's fucking. He's pretty. His resume's impressive. Well, he's the mayor of a city that's not doing so well, and they're not happy with him. Oh, really? They're not happy with him?
Starting point is 00:21:07 No. Especially the minority population in South Bend. It's one of those things where if you're a mayor, you imagine, first of all, it's hard enough being a fucking mayor. You have a lot of things to do. Nightmare. And you're also running for president? How are you doing that? He stopped being mayor last month, apparently.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Oh, did he? Did he step down? Oh. Well, that's smart. That's what you got to do. Is his boyfriend on the trail with him it's his husband you piece of shit who takes over now that he's not a mayor anymore that's the same thing for senators like how do senators do that how come senators and congress people can be they can be senators and congress people and still be on the campaign trail. You're clearly not doing your job 100%. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:21:45 There's no way. How are you allowed to half-ass your job? And just put the other job on the back burner while you're going for this other job? If you're a congressman, a congresswoman, and a senator, you're definitely not doing the best. I don't see how you could. There's no way. Because that's like saying you could half-ass the job while you, while you're there, yeah, that doesn't require much. They don't do shit anyways, though.
Starting point is 00:22:07 But they must do something. You're running for president. You have to sign some shit. No, running for president, yeah, you're busy. But being a senator? Right, but I mean, while you're running for president, there's no way you could be on top of all the senators. You can't water both lawns. Good for Mayor Pete for stepping away and giving that job that nobody wants to somebody
Starting point is 00:22:26 else. Yeah, I guess I'll do it. Those guys, they get these gigs like that as a stepping stone. It's so transparent. Like when Clinton was mayor of Arkansas or governor of Arkansas. Who the fuck wants to be governor of Arkansas? That's when he got in big trouble. No disrespect, Arkansas.
Starting point is 00:22:41 That's when he got in big trouble. Big trouble. That's when he was getting all the fucking coke dropped in from Barry Seals. Yes. They were dropping that coke in on me, Arkansas. That's when he got in big trouble. Big trouble. That's when he was getting all the fucking coke dropped in from Barry Seals. Yes. They were dropping that coke in on me in Arkansas. That's the real deal. That Tom Cruise movie. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:22:53 Fuck yeah. That movie's based on a real goddamn story. They busted them because these kids got murdered. These kids got murdered that found the drop. These kids found the cocaine. They dropped cocaine out of planes. Barry Seals was flying in from south america with coke and they would it would push it out of parachutes in mina arkansas so they would go and pick it up we're talking fucking millions of dollars with a
Starting point is 00:23:15 coke and these two kids found it and so they murdered these two kids and left their body on the railroad tracks damn and the official story was they they smoked marijuana got so high that they fell asleep on come on who bought but then the parents that's that's when the scandal came so the parents were big scandal man the parents knew something was wrong they knew this wasn't how their kids were so the parents got autopsies and they found the kids had been stabbed damn yeah and that's what happens when you try to blame weed for some shit and you don't know exactly how it works yeah that's so stupid exactly how it works yeah maybe if you did like a pound of mushrooms you might do that yeah but even even that you're not gonna get the fuck away from the train yes you hear choo choo you're out man so this this whole place in arkansas and the
Starting point is 00:23:59 people that were already dead you could tell they were already dead before the train ran over what's the movie eddie's made in America? American Made? American Made. It's a good fucking movie. They don't talk about the kids in that, do they? No, they do not. Oh, okay, yeah. I saw some clips. I don't remember the kids. The movie was all about Barry Seals who was dropping cocaine. I mean, that guy met
Starting point is 00:24:18 with all the major cartel people. You know, I mean, he met with Noriega. He met with Pablo Escobar. My boy Billy had something to do with this? Billy Corbin? Clinton. Clinton. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, Clinton was in the movie. Clinton lets him slide. In the movie, they bust him at one point in time, and Clinton has him released. His Iran-Contra scandal was all connected. Well, listen, man. They were making money. They were making a shitload of money.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Somebody was making an ungodly sum of money bringing cocaine to the United States. Do we know who that was? We don't know. We don't know. But we know for sure that at one point in time, the government was running cocaine through South Central Los Angeles. Goddamn. And my friend, Michael Rupert, busted that.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And he got on television in front of fucking, what was it? Was it C-SPAN? I forget what it was. It was C-SPAN? Yeah, it was like the LA City Council. Yes. And he said on television, I work for the Los Angeles Narcotics Division. And we have personally caught CIA people selling cocaine in the inner city.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And the fucking whole room was going crazy. Everybody's cheering and screaming. Is he still alive? No, he committed suicide. His boss was allegedly George Bush Sr. He was the one on top. Well, that was Freeway Ricky Ross.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Freeway Ricky Ross was the guy who was selling all that shit and had no idea that the reason why he was able to move so much coke was because he was in business with the government. Jesus Christ. He didn't even know it. Freeway Ricky Ross. He's been on the podcast before, too. Yeah, that's the real Rick Ross.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Like, you know Rick Ross, the rapper? He stole his name from Freeway Ricky. Man, boy, did he run with it, though. Yeah, he did. He ran with it. He's killing it. Well, Freeway Ricky, he also owns Vander Holyfield's house in Atlanta. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Burrow. Burrow. That thing's the Bellagio. It's the craziest house you've ever seen. Isn't it like 75 bedrooms or something? It's something insane. What are you going to do with that? I just watched a Vander Holyfield.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Mike Tyson won the other day on Instagram. Fuck. Amazing. Whoa, what a fight. Dude, that was a great fight. That was one of those fights where you couldn't believe it live when they stopped the fight. Like, he did it. Nuts.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Holyfield did it. Bro, there was a really interesting interview with Mike Tyson the other day, man, on his Instagram page. Mike Tyson's a deep motherfucker, man. He's so deep. He's been through some shit, man. He's so deep. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:26:42 I mean, he was just talking about like his his life and like what he used to try to say to himself to pump himself up because he has low self-esteem you know what when he was on he was on your podcast right man one question i want someone to ask him is they've mentioned it before but no one ever gets really too deep into it on uh you know the fact that custom auto had him hypnotized he did it he talked it on the fact that Cus D'Amato had him hypnotized. He did it. He talked about it on the podcast in depth. And then when Cus died, did the hypnotism stop?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah, because Cus was doing it. Cus was a hypnotist. When he was 13, when he was a little kid, Cus was hypnotizing him. Maybe he hypnotized him into thinking he was a demon. Well, he hypnotized him into being a machine. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I mean. Well, there's so many factors right first of all was his terrible childhood right yes mike had a terrible childhood no love and then all sudden he finds out that he's
Starting point is 00:27:35 crazy physically gifted like us i mean uh teddy atlas told me that when mike tyson was 13 years old they would take him to these little amateur fights and he was 190 pounds 13 years old. They would take him to these little amateur fights, and he was 190 pounds. 13 years old. Jesus Christ. 190. Just fucking jacked. Just a tank. Just naturally jacked.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Some of the 13-year-olds are like, what the fuck? Well, they didn't believe him. They made him fight like 16, 17-year-olds, because they're like, he's not 13. He's at least 16. I wonder if there's any video of him being hypnotized backstage. I wonder. Maybe that was the fucking key.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Kostamada said he would do it backstage before he walked out. I don't know about that. Yeah, yeah. Before the fights. He would get hypnotized before the fights backstage. Well, he hypnotized him from the time that he was really young, and he told him, like, you don't exist. It's just a task, a task at hand.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You would have him just break these guys down. He was still all these factors, right? The guy has no love. he has this terrible childhood then he's physically gifted and he winds up with a fucking one of the all-time great boxing coaches particularly for the mind yes and teddy atlas when teddy was young and his prime was also an amazing boxing coach and he's up in the catskills where he's up in the mountains in this secluded environment so he can concentrate only on boxing. He's getting hypnotized.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And he's watching Jimmy Jacobs has this insane library of fights. Everything from Jack Dempsey to Joe Louis to Henry Armstrong. He's watching the all-time greats. He's watching all this black and white footage of Jack Johnson from back in the day. Oh, I don't know. What a story. I don't know. But there's so much that led to him becoming, at least for a few years, the greatest heavyweight boxer ever.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And you think the hypnosis stuff actually worked? Yeah, fuck yeah. Fuck yeah, for sure. Could you do it on other people? Yeah, you could hypnotize people. Look at his face when he'd walk into the ring in early fights. He looked like a murderer. Like he was going to murder somebody.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Like a monster. He was a monster. He was incredible, man. I mean, look, no one can sustain the kind of pace that he kept up in the early days. But man, I still maintain when he fought Marvis Frazier, that was as scary as a heavyweight has ever been. Terrified. When he fought Michael Spinks, he was as scary as a heavyweight has ever been. Terrified. When he fought Michael Spinks, he's as scary as a heavyweight has ever been.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It was a phenom, right? It was just like this. His fight was like everybody shut down and watched it. Yeah. And they would starch dudes and people would complain if it was too short. You would think that maybe there'd be some UFC fighters that are getting hypnotized. Like, what's up? They are.
Starting point is 00:30:02 They got to look into that. I'm sure. They don't have the strength. Vinny Shorman does that shit. Who's that? Vinny Sh, what's up? They are. They got to look into that. I'm sure. They don't have to say who. Vinny Shorman does that shit. Who's that? Vinny Shorman. He's a hypnotist. He's also a commentator.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Diego Sanchez is Coach Mike. What is this? This is Tyson in the early days. Oh, that's him and Marvis Frazier. Look at that face. The Marvis Frazier fight, dude. That was the fight. That was the fight.
Starting point is 00:30:22 That guy looks scary. Oh, they're all scary. Dude, remember Bruce Seldon's face? Oh, yeah. Bruce Seldon got knocked out by a punch. Oh, that's the worst because of his afro? That's by far the worst. Dude, Mike Tyson was just destroying people back in the day.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Just destroying people. It was a different time, man. Look at this. Boom! That was when he won the title. It was a different, you know, the heavyweight division before him was bullshit. He also didn't test back then. I hate to be a stickler.
Starting point is 00:30:49 You could say the same thing. I hate to be that guy that didn't test back then. Do you think he was on the sauce? Tyson? Come on, bro. Do you? Do you think he was? He would admit it, wouldn't he?
Starting point is 00:31:00 Wouldn't Tyson admit that? I think he would. He would. Has anyone ever asked him? That's a good question. I wouldn't ask him. He's so honest. I'm not asking that? I think he would. He would. Has anyone ever asked him? That's a good question. He's so honest. I'm not asking him. I would ask him. I would ask him. You should have. I should have. I didn't think about it. It's what they did back then.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I don't think he needed it. He was small. Look at Evander Holyfield. He was small. Look at Evander Holyfield. He could win. Evander's different. When Tyson came out of jail, though, Evander Holyfield for sure did something. When Tyson came out of jail, evander holyfield for sure did something yeah when tyson came out of jail when tyson came out of jail he was so ridiculously ripped what was that mcneely is that his name the dude he fought when he got out of jail yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:31:33 go to some poor soul people do roids in jail oh if you're mike tyson they've got him steaks and roy's probably eating prime rib every night did you ask him about his life his time in jail no i didn't we talked about so many. You know, after three. He's talking to Mike motherfucking Tyson. Yeah, you don't want to go too deep. Three hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:51 For three hours, you only get so much you could talk about, you know. It was just incredible to be there. You know what the funniest take on him? Kamaru Usman. Kamaru Usman said he was doing this thing with Mike Tyson. He's hanging out. He goes, it's like you're sitting next to a lion. And it's like, that's really Mike Tyson?
Starting point is 00:32:11 It's like a lion's there. Yeah, you're scared. I hope he keeps it together. I hope he keeps it together. Because it's like he's a lion. He's a destroyer. Dude, I've done a podcast with him. And it was like, it was one of his first podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It was me, him, and Brian was there. And Tice was on the side of me hearing the exact same thing. I was like, well, we didn't freak the fuck out. And he's in all sweats. And he was so out of it, like on medication. Oh, was he? Yeah, he was like a drugged up lion at that day. I wonder if they got him on medication now or if it's just weed.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I think it was before the weed. He was on all this medication, and it was not his fault. He's kind of out to lunch on these pills, but it was a weird podcast. Isn't that funny that guys get on all these pills and weed just sorts it all out? Yep. For some people. Remember that story you talked about when he used to date that one Robin Givens and then they broke up.
Starting point is 00:33:04 They were probably married, right? Did they broke up they were probably married right did they get married they got married and then after they got divorced he said he was apparently still banging her every now and then and then he shows up and like brad pitt's with her can you imagine what brad pitt was thinking he's like, oh my God. Big fan, big fan, big fan. Oh, dude. Hey, let me get the fuck out of there. We didn't even do anything. We didn't even do anything. Can you imagine what was going through his mind? Dear Brad, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Mike Tyson pulls up in a Porsche. Mike Tyson might make you stay in the room while he fucks Robin. He might make you stay in the room. Or he might make you suck his dick, too. You never know, man. I'm going to have her suck my dick And then I'm gonna come in your face You stay put
Starting point is 00:33:47 You sit on that chair right there You can sit on that chair dog You're like no I'd just rather leave I'd rather take my leave Mike is it okay to leave? That's not an option That's not an option Poor Brad Pitt must have been fucking terrified
Starting point is 00:34:04 Out of all the people in the world Dude Poor Brad Pitt must have been fucking terrified. Out of all the people in the world, that should disqualify you from ever dating her. Your ex-husband. Who? Who's your ex? Dude, sometimes a girl's so fine, you'll risk it all, dude. Mike Tyson, John Jones. It don't matter.
Starting point is 00:34:20 If they're fine enough, dude, you'll risk it all. This is Figueredo, who's going to fight Joe Benavidez for the title yeah what do they do with that title after that what are you gonna do it's hard to get people excited about dudes that weigh 125 pounds unfortunately the hardest because if mighty mouse couldn't excite people man i mean mighty mouse is the the greatest expression of mixed martial arts talent i've ever seen i've never seen anybody as good as Mighty Mouse. He couldn't get people excited. Nobody wanted to buy those pay-per-views. It's unfortunate. But I think Mighty Mouse did
Starting point is 00:34:52 the right thing. Going to Asia is the right move because they love him over there. Let me ask this, Joe. When you see if the main event's a 125-pound fight versus a light heavyweight fight or heavyweight fight, you feel different about it.ends on who Mighty Mouse is fighting
Starting point is 00:35:06 When Mighty Mouse Fought Cejudo I was very excited The first time? The second time The second time Yeah But you
Starting point is 00:35:13 See The first time I was excited too It is what it is though Because they're 125 pounds But if I see You know John Jones Versus
Starting point is 00:35:19 Dominic Reyes Or John Jones Versus You know Stipe Or something like that That'll get your dick hard Because you know You're about to see some shit.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Those little guys, it is what it is, man. It is what it is. It's unfortunate. You're always going to get the most excited when, like, we're going to watch Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder tonight. Heavyweights. As the heavyweight division goes, so does boxing. You could say that about MMA, too.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I think with MMA, there's still real exciting fights in the lighter divisions. And there is in boxing as well. Like I said, Errol Spence Jr. and Terrence Crawford. That's the fight I want to see. But in the UFC, at welterweight 170, middleweight 185, 155, 145 male, dude, it is fucking cracking. It's cracking. One through 15 is banging. Isn't that funny?
Starting point is 00:36:04 45 to 25 is just 20 pounds. It's a big deal, though. It's cracking. One through 15 is banging. Isn't that funny? 45 to 25 is just 20 pounds. It's a big deal, though. The biggest deal. It's weird. It's a huge deal. It's weird. The UFC's never been better, man. There's so much talent, so deep.
Starting point is 00:36:16 What do you think about Adesanya saying he wants to fight Stipe? He's crazy, dude. He wants to go straight up to Stipe. He's crazy. He's tall enough. He's tall enough. He's got the frame. He's a big boy, dude. He wants to go straight up to Stipe. He's crazy. He's tall enough. He's got the frame. He's got the frame. He's a big boy, man.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I think he probably walks around about 210, 215 maybe. I don't see anything wrong with that. So he would only have to gain like 20 pounds. He would light Stipe up on the feet there. How long do you think Stipe would keep it on the feet? That's the question. What's Stipe going to do? But also how's Stipe going to look?
Starting point is 00:36:43 What's his wrestling background? Cleveland State, Division 1 AA. He can fucking wrestle. But also, how's Stipe going to look? What's his wrestling background? Cleveland State, Division I AA. National champion? No. Stipe's a beast, man. Super beast. He's an enormous man, too. I mean, Stipe's an enormous heavyweight.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Six-four. Yeah. But he's thick as fuck. Yeah, he's a firefighter, for God's sake. He's walking around 250, solid as a rock, you know? 250 with abs. Doesn't he have an injury or something? He's got a knife problem.
Starting point is 00:37:04 He's had some rough times, so. He's got a bunch of problems. How's he have an injury or something? He's got a knife problem. He's had some rough times. He's got a bunch of problems. How's he going to come back after that? Well, he may not. Or he might not. I mean, I don't want to say too much about what his injury is because I don't know how open he's been about it, but if he could fight, he would be fighting right now. They would set up that rematch with DC.
Starting point is 00:37:23 That's what they would do. Part three? That's what they would do part three would do part three yeah yeah that's what they would do that's what i'm just waiting for john to go to fucking heavyweight dude john at heavyweight is exciting it's the only thing exciting very exciting very exciting very exciting it's interesting though i want to see the dominic reyes rematch as much as I want to see that I want to see that fight They're talking about Jan Blachowicz I know Which is interesting
Starting point is 00:37:50 I mean I'm interested in seeing that But I just don't think he's going to be able to stop John from taking him down You know what I'm saying? Yeah he's going to have a problem with that For sure Because Corey Anderson took him down a shit load in the first fight John is a different beast Poor Corey Anderson dude
Starting point is 00:38:04 He's for sure going to get that title shot, building up, talking shit to John, and just get starched. He just got clipped. Clipped. Playing that game. Bohovic fucking, he can crack. See what he did to Luke?
Starting point is 00:38:15 I know. Broke Luke's jaw. I know. He punches fucking hard, man. And at light heavyweight, he's not depleting himself anymore. He's a good example of a guy who went up. And it worked.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And it worked. It worked spectacularly. He eats whatever the fuck he wants now. Who knows, man? I mean, where John is now, you know? I mean, John has the toughest fights with guys that he's not totally pumped for. You know what I'm saying? Makes sense, too.
Starting point is 00:38:39 John Jones. That's what I'm saying. Dude, go to fucking heavyweight. Before it's too late, man. Go to heavyweight and fight DC. How about that? That's what I'm saying, dude. Go to fucking heavyweight before it's too late, man. Go to heavyweight and fight DC. How about that? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:38:49 You got Stipe there. You got Overeem. You got Francis. If DC wants to fight one more time and he wants to fight John at heavyweight, that would maybe be one fight that he would get outside of Stipe because he said if Stipe can't fight anymore, he's probably done. What do you mean? That what dc oh d oh if he don't oh he's 40 years old yeah you're right yeah i mean and he's had a great life and he has an amazing career as a commentator he's one of the best commentators ever you guys are great together he's fun i love that guy so if he wants to if he decides that this
Starting point is 00:39:21 is it you know that that could it, that could be it. John might get him out of bed for that, though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. John at heavyweight, yeah, that might do it. If DC decides that he doesn't have to lose weight, let me give one more shot at John Jones. At heavyweight, I like his chances. Better than light heavyweight. They fought two or three times.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Two times. Two times. Yeah. Do you think at light heavyweight John Has too much of an advantage Because DC DC had never beaten At light heavyweight It's just not in the books for him
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah it's just not there It's unfortunate I love DC Heavyweight though DC you know He can crack a little bit I'd love to see at heavyweight Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:57 He'd still be an underdog But it's definitely better His odds definitely get better As the weight goes up DC's an amazing heavyweight man He's just not stupid Against deep bay But who knows how good John will be amazing heavyweight, man. He just fought stupid against Deep Bay. But who knows how good John will be at heavyweight.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I've seen him with other heavyweights. He ragdolls bitches. He's a beast, man. And he's walking around a natural 230. But John's also getting older, though, man. How old is he? 31? 32?
Starting point is 00:40:24 That ain't that old. He has some miles on him, though. He's got a lot of miles. He's slowed getting older though, man. How old is he? 31? 32? That ain't that old. He has some miles on him though. He's got a lot of miles. He's slowed down a tad. Let's just call it what it is. You got to wonder how much of that slowing down is his enthusiasm, how much of it is physical. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I mean, maybe if a big fight comes up like a Stipe Miocic fight. I know. Or Francis. You're right. You're right. And I said, yeah, you're right. I go and that and i said yeah you're right i i go back and forth i go maybe he's slowing down he's getting older and i go or maybe he just doesn't give a fuck about these contenders he's fighting and you know he's out partying at the super ball
Starting point is 00:40:56 and then he's like you know the week before the fight he's at the super ball they can't fly you know beat them okay yeah cool yeah fight yon what where? Yeah let's do it But then hey you got Francis You make one wrong move And you get knocked out I bet we see a fucking gnarly ass John Jones He had a couple of years off Because of all of his troubles Outside of the Octagon right?
Starting point is 00:41:16 Two years where he really wasn't fighting But other than that He's had nine solid years Against world championship Best of the best who they who never did anything to him nobody he never he never took any damage gustafson the one fight where he didn't train gustafson gustafson one fight and shit that's that's basically none of that he's yeah you're right he starched everybody hurt his elbow on matt
Starting point is 00:41:44 hamill's face. He's never been knocked down, right? No. Never been knocked down. I mean, he got knocked down. He slipped against Dominic. By Dominic. Hit him in the chest and knocked him down. Could have slipped.
Starting point is 00:41:52 It wasn't a knockdown like Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder. It wasn't that kind of knockdown. Gussman took him down. That was the only time he got taken down. Is that the only time? Yeah, DC didn't take him down. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I'm excited to see that rematch. I think Dominic Reyes would be even better in the rematch. I think Dominic Reyes realizes now it's all about having the energy in that third, fourth, and fifth round. And having already been to the top of the mountain and faced the dragon, I think he's going to come back better than ever. Here's the thing. That dragon in rematches gets way better and goes, oh, you're an actual threat? I'm going to prepare for it this time. And he fucks dudes up in rematches.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Gustafson starched. DC starched. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'd like to see it. I want to see what Reyes can do, too. And Reyes got that rub now, right? Reyes is going to come into that second fight knowing that he came a cunt hair away from being the light heavyweight champion in the world.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And, you know, I mean, one judge gave it to John four rounds to one, which is fucking embarrassingly bad. Supposedly that guy owns an MMA gym as well. That's so hilarious. Isn't that crazy? God, get off his nuts, dude. Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense. Be less obvious. It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Figure it out. You know what? People just look at fights differently sometimes you know what i mean because back you know there's dudes that look at um rounds where uh even to this day where a guy gets taken down and he doesn't do any damage but he you know and um uh they'll still give it to the guy on the bottom just because the guy on top didn't do any damage. You know what I mean? And then there's guys that for sure, no matter what, if you get a takedown, you're going to win the round. If the other guy didn't get a takedown, right? And there's guys that, I mean, in the early 2000s, I knew some judges.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I don't want to say any names. But they would give a round to a dude who escaped a bunch of submissions because that guy had him in great positions, and he couldn't play his game. He couldn't implement his game, and he had all this great position on him, had his back, and he escaped. So I'm going to give it to the guy who escaped. Like, that's extreme.
Starting point is 00:43:54 It's such a shit show. Yeah. There's guys like that out there. So it's not necessarily that, you know. It's not necessarily the retardation. Wasn't Ricardo Almeida Judge for a second Yeah he was
Starting point is 00:44:07 And he just thought He was like Ah fuck this I think he's too Too busy You know He's got a successful school You know
Starting point is 00:44:13 He's got that big school Cody Garbrandt's up there With him now He is really He's with him And Mark Henry Interesting That's very interesting
Starting point is 00:44:20 That's a very good match For him To calm him down Make him fight more technically Don't let him get caught in the slug test. That's what Pico was saying when he went to Greg Jackson's. They're trying to get him out of that sixth gear. Like, dude, you don't have to finish this guy in five minutes.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Use your skills. And they're trying to harness him. Because when you see him fight, there's so much fucking passion that he just wants to destroy people. Well, he has ridiculous power. But he also— He also destroys people in training. I'mclass got destroyed the stories about him are insane man really just i mean i'll tell you i fear i mean guys we know where he just mops the floor with them so he gets in there with a guy who's four and one or five one he's like oh i'm gonna fuck
Starting point is 00:44:58 this dude up and he gets so antsy he wants to get him out there and that's when he gets caught well it's also he's standing up with everybody. He's got an incredible wrestling pedigree, and here he is standing up with everybody. He's not threatening with the takedowns. At the very least, like if you're fighting an MMA fight, right, at the very least you should make it so that the opponent has no idea what you're going to do. And he doesn't do that. His problem is he's also a world-class boxer.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah. When I talk to Freddie Roach about him, he goes, oh, he could be a world champion boxer right now. At 140, he could go on and be a world champion. That's crazy. He goes, when he was younger, I used to toss him in there with Miguel Cotto. World champions you know, and he held his own, won some rounds. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I'm like, what the fuck? And he was a kid. That's crazy. Yeah. It's nuts man he's he's such a what is he now 23 22 or 23 wow lives in albuquerque has horses there oh so he bought a farm out there yeah he's like he just moved everything out there he's everything everything got horses he's in full control of you know with with g Greg Jackson, and they're just doing work, man. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:06 It's a good story. That's a very good story. That's interesting. Especially when he becomes world champion. Right. If they can turn him around. He said he walked, like he was thinking about what coaches he was going to work with, and he walked into Greg Jackson's office and was like, right away,
Starting point is 00:46:18 I was like, oh, this is home. Really? He was like, I moved a week later. What was it about Greg Jackson? He just said there was some weird connection there where mentally he was just on the same wave path and was just like yeah this is it man really and he's like i've never felt better i've never you know and i get it greg's a mastermind man greg's the to me the best there is how many people do they have at jackson's a ton if you had a guess like how many fighters i haven't been there so long i don't know there's a ton but when i hear all like the the drama every big gym has drama but jackson just
Starting point is 00:46:49 gets out there more because the guys talk about it but it's just like they're like oh he gives john jones too much attention are you talking about the best fighter of all time tell me the best fighter of all time yeah yeah yeah yeah no shit dude of course yeah and these other these older fighters i get it man you know but it's like like John's in the – he's still there, man. He's in the race. A lot of you guys aren't. Yeah. So if you're Greg, it's tough to figure out dealing with these personalities.
Starting point is 00:47:12 You only have so much time, man. You know how it is. Yeah, you only have so much time. You have superstars. So he's like the Phil Jackson. You have Michael Jordan over here. You got Scottie Pippen. You got Dennis Rodman.
Starting point is 00:47:22 You got all these guys, and you're trying to manage Everyone's ego And MMA It's just a different animal And you got Mike Smith Sitting over here Guys I'm on the team too Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:31 Guys No we know We know dude Is Mike Smith a real guy Or did you just make him up There probably is a Mike Smith Or Jackson Probably was a Mike Smith
Starting point is 00:47:39 That was playing for the Lakers I'm fucked dude Yeah Those gym dynamics. It happened in Denver, man. Everyone got, you guys got famous thanks to, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:49 your coach is wearing a shirt that conflicts with your sponsor, but he's getting paid. It's just crazy, dude. He's doing interviews and shit. Oh, that's where it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Like, oh, what is happening? There's sponsorships on his mitts. Oh, no. What the fuck, dude? Really? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:05 It's crazy. If a coach is wearing some shit That conflicts with your sponsor And he's training you That is not good How do you work that out I mean you You don't deal with it That's just business though
Starting point is 00:48:14 That's business dude Coach got to pay the rent too He's got kids too You think he's just fucking doing this for free No He's got shit to do So when You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:48:24 This is Coach Eddie over here. Yeah, it's like, relax. Everybody's trying to blow up. He just has sponsorship logos all over him. I have no sponsors. Puts on a Reebok hat. I have no personal sponsors. Hey, are you working with Tony?
Starting point is 00:48:37 Absolutely. What have you been doing with him? We've been preparing for Khabib for a long time. Fuck yeah. For the Dos Anjos fight, we were preparing for him, but we were also preparing for... We're always preparing for the worst case scenario, and Khabib is the worst case scenario. He's probably the best ground and pounder wrestler ever, right? This is the toughest challenge ever in MMA for 10th Planet.
Starting point is 00:49:05 That's for sure. I mean, this is it. This is the worst case scenario that I've been talking about. This is what I prepare for every, me personally, my Abu Dhabi is at the gym when we have drop-ins
Starting point is 00:49:19 and since 2003, who knows who's going to drop in that night and challenge me. So I always prepare for the worst case scenario. Some drop-in who's going to drop in that night and challenge me? So I always prepare for the worst case scenario. Some drop in who's 190, who wrestled his whole life, who's really good at jiu-jitsu, and what am I going to do with him?
Starting point is 00:49:33 That first round, the only round we go with, probably one round, maybe two, I'm just focusing on stuff that he's never seen. Because if I come at him with stuff he's seen, then that's not a. Because if I come at him with stuff he's seen, then that's not a good strategy. I'm going to pull him into some uncharted territory.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And that's what we're doing. That's what I've been doing with Tony. That's brilliant. Just uncharted territory. The thing with Khabib, Khabib is undefeated, no doubt one of the best fighters probably of all time. He's never lost a round. Yeah. One.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Connor. Round three. But you've got to remember this, too. Iaquinta, maybe. There are a couple of Khabib fights. We watch all the Khabib fights where you do see where you don't see the classic Khabib. Like with Gleason Tabal, that didn't go down like... Oh, fuck, I missed the thick kid. Crazy heavyweight fight.
Starting point is 00:50:30 The thick kid got knocked out. Thick boy nation got knocked out. Fuck. Jamie's over here watching the fight. And he has a mullet like Theo. Fuck. Wow. There's so many reasons I want to watch that.
Starting point is 00:50:39 What I was saying was there are some fights where Khabib wasn't... Looks human. Looks human. Looks human. There are a couple. You also look at the Dos Anjos fight. He clearly won that, but there was things that he couldn't do that he could do with other people. Dos Anjos. Dos Anjos.
Starting point is 00:50:55 He couldn't get past Dos Anjos guard. You know what I mean? It wasn't that easy to take down. And Tony, when you know the Conor fight with Khabib you know Tony wrestled this whole goddamn life
Starting point is 00:51:08 Tony's phenomenal wrestler there's a light ear difference between Conor's wrestling and Tony's wrestling right so you got that
Starting point is 00:51:16 Tony will throw Darce's standing and from all different angles while you're trying to take him down so Khabib's gotta worry about that
Starting point is 00:51:24 there's gonna be Darce's coming on the feed. Damn, don't give out too much, bro. Everybody knows that. You can watch that. Everybody knows that. I'm only giving away stuff that you can watch on. You know what I mean? Yeah, people know.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Are you going to be in Brooklyn? What was that? Are you going to be in Brooklyn for that? Yeah, yeah. And so we're focusing on the stuff. When Khabib has his way, when he's in a fight where everything's going his way, it's against the fence. There's a look against the fence that he always has.
Starting point is 00:51:53 It's that same look. And then when he drags the guy down, it's that same look. And when they are halfway back up, there's that look. And then they're back on the fence. There's that position, that look. Boom. So when it comes to Khabib, it's going to be the hardest challenge ever, right? For both guys, though.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah, for sure. For sure. But the advantage that we have is we know exactly where the fight is going to be if Khabib gets like, you know. If he's successful. If he's successful. And there's different phases. There's the stand-up phase. There's the clinch.
Starting point is 00:52:22 There's the fighting against the fence. There's the dragging. And then there's the um the fighting against the fence there's the dragging and then there's like in between the fence and dragon we know where the fight can be um you know um the one thing we don't know is how is it going to look is it going to look like um you know khabib has his way and passes tony's guard like he has against other opponents or is it going to be like gleason to bow or he's having a hard time taking him down. And he's never getting side control, never passing the guard against Gleason.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Is it going to look like that? How is it going to look? It could look so many different ways. We'll never really know until they match up. You just don't really know. I can't wait. But I will promise you this, is we got all sorts of landmines waiting for him.
Starting point is 00:53:03 We got some traps. We know where he wants to take the fight, and there's going to be some traps there. all sorts of landmines waiting for us we know where the fight where he wants to take the fight and there's going to be some traps there all sorts of them and no one knows about them we're not talking about them but we've been working on this for for a while so who knows what's going to happen khabib has all you know has my respect a million percent that guy's that guy's insane. If you didn't respect Khabib, you'd have to be crazy. You can't be my friend. Tony has so many goddamn weapons. He might have more weapons than anybody in the history of the UFC.
Starting point is 00:53:39 That's fair. He might have more weapons. It's me, Hard R. That's fair. He's such a great scrambler, too. He's got so many different areas of his game. Think about this. In the history of MMA, who has known more for darsing than him? Who?
Starting point is 00:53:52 Nobody. No one's even fucking close. No one's even fucking close. And he catches them late in the fight when everyone's covering sweat and blood like Barboza. Yeah, yeah. And the dars is one of those techniques that is, you could learn really, the darts is one of those techniques that is, you could learn really,
Starting point is 00:54:08 the learning part is the easiest part. Like learning how to do a darts, it can be like two minutes, like two minutes, but mastering it and mastering it enough to be known for it and getting grown ass men who are experts at ground fighting on it,
Starting point is 00:54:21 that's a whole, very few people reach that status. Again, there were Darshis. Everybody knows the Darshis. Every grappler in Abu Dhabi, like the last Abu Dhabi 2019, every grappler on the card knows how to do a Darshis.
Starting point is 00:54:34 They know how to teach it. They could do a seminar on it, but no one did it. Only one guy, the Rutolo, one of the Rutolo twins, he's from Atos. That guy,
Starting point is 00:54:44 like he was Darshis, there was Darshis all over the place. Why? Everybody knows how to doos that guy like he was there was Darsons all over the place why? everybody knows how to do them how come he was only able to do them? because he's strategizing for it he's looking for it and the strategy
Starting point is 00:54:55 is not like a thing that he's thinking about consciously it's in his DNA that's the difference because he's looking for it subconsciously it's in his strategy it's in his dna that's how that's how tony is tony man and not we're not i'm not satisfied with
Starting point is 00:55:12 him just knowing it dude we work on he already hasn't mastered but we're working on it even more and making sure that if khabib is caught in one of those things we're making it's all right we're making sure that that thing is fucking strong. Did you imagine if he choked out? It must have got you excited when Poirier caught him in that guillotine. Because Poirier had him in a guillotine. Poirier's a black belt, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:34 He had him in the guillotine. Yeah. It was a good one, too. Pretty tight. Anybody can lose. You know what I mean? Khabib is not invincible. There's some fights where he looked, like you said, human.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Yeah. And we watch those fights, and we see where he has not quite. Some openings. Yeah, exactly. The big thing, too, is Tony's cardio is just ridiculous. Yeah. Second to none, man. Second to none. His cardio is so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:56:04 It's literally ridiculous. Yeah. Because he'll have a crazy, super high, fast-paced fight, and then you look at him, he's not Second to none, man. Second to none. His cardio is so fucking good. It's literally ridiculous. Because he'll have a crazy, super high, fast-paced fight, and then you look at him, he's not even breathing heavy. His stomach's not even moving. He loves it. And he throws elbows more than your average UFC fighter. Oh, yeah. Elbows are like his thing.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I think depending on what Khabib wants to do, no matter what happens in this fight, I see Khabib and Tony fighting a few times. I think it's one of those classic kind of trilogy ones, man. Who knows? They match up so well together. I just please gods of war, get them together in April. I saw Tony jump and run over tires and shit.
Starting point is 00:56:39 No, no, it's old. Oh, is that old? Oh, thank God. Yeah. Man, there's this awesome Tony meme where they're showing this guy from like, it's like in the middle of a canyon in some forest and he's walking a tightrope. It's like some dude is walking a tightrope with a balancing pole. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:56:59 It's something like when Tony trains or something. Because he's extreme. That's what makes him who he is. What kind of wacky shit is he doing when you're training with him? Dude, he's got this... I don't even know how to explain it. I don't even want to talk about it. Can you give up secrets?
Starting point is 00:57:17 He's just on top of the latest shit. Just the latest training instincts, training reaction. he's super into like like shit the NBA would be doing like what I can't even explain it you're not trying to get away are you not supposed to talk about it I don't want to talk about it okay let's go I get it yeah after the fight yeah please all you need to know is Darcy's elbows. Look at that fucking poster. Darces and elbows. God damn, that poster's great.
Starting point is 00:57:45 That poster's amazing, although Tony is taller. That's weird. They have it like that. Tony's actually way taller. He's quite a bit taller. It's weird they have He's got super long arms, too.
Starting point is 00:57:55 That's why it's a Darcer. Those arms, dude. Those Darces are coming from everywhere. That poster's amazing. Put that poster up again. That poster's dope. That poster gives you a hard time.
Starting point is 00:58:06 That's all you need. Oh, dude. Look at that. That's the best fight in the UFC. Make it so it's the normal size. Yeah, look at that. Fuck. They got that one right.
Starting point is 00:58:16 They got that one perfect. That, to me, is the greatest fight ever in the lightweight division. 100%. The greatest fight ever. Arguably the greatest fight ever. Yes. Yes. Come on. That's the greatest ground ever arguably arguably greatest fight ever yes yes come on yes that's the greatest grounding pounder right took out connor choked his ass out fucking everybody up and then here comes tony the fucking wild enigma coming at you from a thousand different
Starting point is 00:58:39 angles that fight gives me chills man just stop and think about what tony's been able to do to people too like think about what he did to Cowboy. He just takes guys that look like world-class fighters, and he makes them look like they have no business being in there with them. Think about Pettis. Yeah. Josh Thompson, you know what I mean? That was a great fight, too.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Kevin Lee. Kevin Lee, man. Dos Anjos. Do you remember when he threw that spinning elbow, and then he threw another one right after? Nuts. He's so creative. That's one of his most powerful weapons is that he does not hesitate to pull the trigger.
Starting point is 00:59:13 He's never cautious. You know, a lot of guys, you know, you hear about these guys like the goal is to take what he does in the gym out to the ring. That's the goal. If we could do that, he's going to be unstoppable. Tony, from day one, anything he does in the gym, he's going to do in the ring. That's the goal. If we could do that, he's going to be unstoppable. Tony, from day one, anything he does in the gym, he's going to do in the ring. No hesitation.
Starting point is 00:59:29 You know what I mean? He doesn't ever hold back on pulling the trigger. It's a very exciting fight. It's the best fight. Two spinning elbows in a row? Has anybody ever done that? Nuts.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I mean, probably, but no one at a level that Tony's fighting at. Yeah. I don't think in the UFC anybody's thrown two fucking spinning fucking elbows, man, in a row. He don't give a shit, dude. Pico was talking about Dagestanian. Is that how you say it?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Dagestanian guys? And he said Greg Jackson goes, basically told me, he says, you're obsessed with training. He said, that's all I like to do. And Greg's like, where's that come from? He goes, because a few years ago, and even before that, I'd go train in Dagestan
Starting point is 01:00:09 and see the young kids there. He goes, so at night, all I do is picture those young kids. He's like, they're not messing around, man. He goes, they're starting to make their way here,
Starting point is 01:00:18 but we haven't seen anything yet. He goes, so I think of them. And that's- Who said that? Aaron Pico. Okay. Because he was out there training.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Well, that's him. He's describing himself. Well, he's like, he's like. He's been doing it his whole life as well. Yeah, he has. But he goes, you go out there, that's all they care about. He's like, and so that's why I try to take the same kind of approach. He's like, people don't realize what those kids.
Starting point is 01:00:38 He's like, I'm telling you, man. Well, we're starting to find them over here. Yeah, he goes, they're trickling in. He goes, but wait for it. He goes, if you went over there, it mind crap they're all free you remember i i was uh working with aaron maybe 10 to 10 sessions that's right you know where i fucked up i fucked up really really bad the day i met him how so the day i met him because um in my experience uh you know we talked about this before i've've worked for the UFC for eight years.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Backstage, I'm talking to all these fighters. I see them come and go. And when they go, I remember how they go. They go because they couldn't handle the worst-case scenario. It's either a guy that takes them down at will and they can't do anything about it or a guy that beats them up on their feet and they can't take them down. So that's usually when people get cut from the UFC, it's because they lost and there's only a couple ways they lose. It's the
Starting point is 01:01:28 worst case scenario. They couldn't handle the worst case scenario. So you constantly see these world class grapplers having, you know, striking coaches that convince them to strike. And then they listen to the striking coaches and now they're a world class grappler and they're striking. So
Starting point is 01:01:44 I didn't know anything about Aaron Pico. I don't follow wrestling. I didn't know anything about him. Joe texts me and goes, dude, there's this dude, Aaron Pico. He's a good wrestler. He wants to come train with you. A text like that means nothing to me.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Even from Joe? It just means nothing to me. How many texts do I send Joe? Someone trying to get a hold of Joe. I send them to him just because I'm the... Very few. Dude, he... He sends them to me and it's like he knows I'm not going to respond.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Exactly. Exactly. So anyways, so then he finally kept bugging Joe and Joe said, dude, and I said, okay, just have him come to the gym. Like, I don't... I'm not looking for new MMA guys. Yeah. I'm not looking for that at all.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I'm just focusing on my school, my students. If you want to join in, then you can join in. I'm not looking for that at all. I'm just focusing on my school, my students. If you want to join in, then you can join in. I'm not looking for anybody. All right, so he shows up to the gym. I didn't know anything about him. And he told me about his wrestling background.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And then Joe was telling me. Then I looked up. Before he showed up, I did look him up. I did look him up. And I'm like, fuck, this guy's an amazing wrestler. Golden gloves.
Starting point is 01:02:43 So I didn't know shit. I didn't know shit about him, right? So I told him, I said, this might be the last day I see him. Dudes come and go all the time. I don't know how long he's going to stay. So I told him, I said, listen, my advice to you, if I was on my deathbed, I would say don't listen to any striking coaches trying to tell you to strike. You stick to what you're good at.
Starting point is 01:03:04 You take dudes down, you pound the shit out of them and you work on. You stick to what you're good at. You take dudes down. You pound the shit out of them. And you work on passing the guard and choking them out. Okay, don't. And I had no idea that his whole training camp was all about staying up on his feet and striking. So I'm telling him. I'm telling him not to listen to any of his coaches. You were kind of right, though.
Starting point is 01:03:21 He probably lost that one, right? Yeah, yeah. So once I found that out, once I started talking to his coaches and all this shit, I'm like, oh my God, what the fuck did I tell him? No, you were kind of right,
Starting point is 01:03:31 though, Eddie. I just assumed that he was going to, you know, the game plan would always be, generally, 90% of the time, take the guy down,
Starting point is 01:03:38 pound the shit out of him, pass his guard, mount him, take his arm or take his neck. That's what I assumed. But I had no idea that that was not the plan. So he came to me for like last resort stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Like if the fight ended up on the ground against his will, he would know some shit. He would know some groundship. So I told him basically not to listen to his coaches that have been with him his whole life. Yeah, he was trying to help though. Since he was a kid. So right away, I got off on the wrong foot. I'm sure you understood. But the one thing about people, I worked with them a few times, and I always looked at it
Starting point is 01:04:14 like this could be the last day I see this guy. Happens all the time. So I wanted to make sure I left him with someone. If he went with someone else, I wanted to leave a little mark. And you know what? So we went all in With the truck And the twister
Starting point is 01:04:27 Heavy He said great things about you Well tell him I said thank you And he did leave with that He was Before The last time You know before he ended up
Starting point is 01:04:37 You know going his own way And all that That's who it is Shut the door bitch He did He did Feel really comfortable Brian counts here
Starting point is 01:04:44 Ladies and gentlemen. He brought grocery bags. Grocery bags. Is it Air One? Daddy has money. What did you do? Did you watch Air One first before you came here? Do you want us to pitch in?
Starting point is 01:04:59 You need a couple bucks? What do you have? You have groceries. Did you get broccoli? Broccoli. Do we have a bottle opener? You're going to get one. Yeah, we have one.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Can we get it? Might even start with a little white wine, guys like gentlemen. White wine is not for gentlemen. It's for chicks. No, no, no. Don't say that. Yeah, it's for chicks and guys who are married to guys. Agree.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Or guys that want to suck their buddy's cocks. Hey! And it's a twist bottle, too. You bought a cheap white wine. Oh, God. Is that barefoot? It's a what? Guys, I got a lot of cheese, all right?
Starting point is 01:05:31 Okay. I got apples. I don't know why. Okay. Apples are good. Apples are tough to eat on a podcast. They are a little tough to eat on a podcast. Apples be tough to eat on a podcast, sir.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah. Well, so is everything else we eat on a podcast. Cheese is kind of easy. Apples. That noise drives people nuts. You got some hooks, cheddar cheese, best cheddar cheese in the world.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Well, I think. Says who? Says who? Is there a cheddar cheese contest? Sweet Red's. Sweet Berry Wine. Did you bring any Sweet Berry Wine?
Starting point is 01:05:58 Whose attitude? Mine? I don't know. Do you have some sweet provolone on there, dude? Bring me one of those bottles. I'll open it up. I got some Kuda 580, 5-year-old Kuda.
Starting point is 01:06:06 I don't play around. I wish you guys... Dude, you bought all the cheese. We should probably get specific glasses for the wine. Excuse me. Do you guys have a knife? Oh, here you go. That's all right.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Do you guys have a knife? Fill those up, B. Give me one of them bottles. I'll open it for you. Yeah, let's do that. Dude, you got a knife on you, huh? I'm producing estrogen. Talk a more custom-made knife, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:23 God, you bought all the fucking cheese. Look at that knife. That's a fucking knife. That's a fucking knife, dude. That's a fucking knife. You know what I'd do? I'd make you do whatever I told you to do with this fucking thing. If I have a knife and we're in a room, what happens?
Starting point is 01:06:35 I steal it from you and I scalp your stupid head. That's bullshit. You steal this from me? Yeah. You're fucking going down, dude. I'm doing this. Sat, sat, sat. I'm taking whatever hair you have left and going zzzz.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Nope. You know what I'm doing? I'm going like this. Ribbons. Okay. And I cut you to rib dude. I'm doing this. Sad, sad, sad. I'm taking whatever hair you have left and going. Nope. You know what I'm doing? I'm going like this. Ribbons. Okay. And I cut you to ribbons. Ribbons. You're more than bottles.
Starting point is 01:06:51 You cut me to fucking ribbons. Cut him to ribbons. Ribbons. That's for cigars. That's for cigars. Oh, I thought it was a stiletto. Here, give me that bottle. Give me a bottle.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Where's my girlfriend? Oh, here, buddy. Karolina Kivakovich? Yeah, they're all my girls. Oh, wow. You like every female fighter. Youolina Kivakovich? Yeah, they're all my girls. Oh, wow. You like every female fighter. You rotate or what, Brian? You rotate on UFC girls?
Starting point is 01:07:09 You know what it is, dude? Fighters, female fighters seem to have drawn to me. Are they drawn to you? They're drawn to me. They're drawn to my apex alpha essence. But you only can take them like once a week? You got to rotate? Yeah, I hold them.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I hold them and I cry with them. I'm sensitive. Ah, Yan Xiaonan nan she's amazing yeah um she she fought angela hill angela hill lost a kind of a shitty decision did they check her for corona you son of a bitch it's also a legit well that's a legit question new zealand though they're new zealand it's a legit question but it's also they did it's it well it They're in New Zealand though They're in New Zealand It's a legit question But it's also They did
Starting point is 01:07:47 Well it's in New Zealand So it's like Their problem you know Pass those glasses son Brian Callum Put your headphones on Here you go dude Sorry man
Starting point is 01:07:56 Let's get these Hear each other I thought he brought Some stem glasses I'm a guy who likes to drink I have a thin lip This is a manly studio I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:05 You drop white wine, although it does look refreshing. Those stems break and they wind up killing people. It does say Cindy Crawford on that bottle. Whatever. You have a Cindy Crawford bottle? It says Cindy Crawford on the front. No, it doesn't say that. It says Cindy Crawford.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Kim Crawford is more over there. No, it says Cindy Crawford. You don't want any more of this? What are you drinking? I'm just wetting his palate a little bit. Let me see. Why do you want him to... You turned him into a chick.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Dude, if it's not barefoot, then I don't want it. That's a nice Sauvignon. Sometimes you got to have a little Sauvignon just to wet it. Cheers, boys. Cheers again. Cheers, fellas. These are my favorite podcasts ever. Love you guys.
Starting point is 01:08:36 I love you too. Love you too. There you go. You guys want to... Except you, Brian. I hate you. Should we kiss now? DeLeo one time sent me a text.
Starting point is 01:08:43 He goes, you want to kiss later? No, right?. I hate you. Should we kiss now? DeLeo one time sent me a text. He goes, you want to kiss later? No, right? Then I get this. Then I get this from him. I just hear this. I just get this. Did you feel that? I was like, I text him back.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I go, what? He goes, uh, oh, shit. Dude, that Chinese girl. That Chinese girl's good. She's throwing them sidekicks. Look at that, Joe. She's been watching your YouTube videos. What's that?
Starting point is 01:09:09 Wally Lang, the champ? Yeah, she's no joke. Wally. Zheng. Dude, she is jacked. Whaley Zentral. Isn't it weird that the Chinese girls are doing better than Japanese girls in the UFC? China's got incredible.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Dude, there's no Japanese girls in the UFC. Are there? Exactly. Dude, there's no Japanese girls in the UFC. Yeah, but are there? Exactly. Chinese girls are blowing up, though. There's not a lot of Japanese dudes either. Well, Zhang Weili, the champ, she is a workhorse. Is she Chinese? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Exactly. If you see her strength and conditioning routine, it is crazy, man. Have you seen it on YouTube? Oh, my God. Jamie, see if you can find Zhang Weili's strength and conditioning routine. She's a very tough young fella. No, she's a girl, bro. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I was just going to have her, Brendan. Son of a bitch. I never get Brendan. That's not right. I'm just kidding. Why are you doing that? I'm joking. Here's a knife.
Starting point is 01:10:00 She's very tough. She's so fucking jacked. Weili? Yeah. What are you saying? You need to get the look, like the Mexican supplement look. She's so fucking jacked. Whaley? Yeah. What are you saying? You get the look, like the Mexican supplement look. I'm saying you're crazy if you don't think Golden Snitch, our boy, Jeff, is sniffing around a little bit.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Just like, all right. He's just going, okay. I think it's normal to look like that. Do you remember when, well, if you watch her training, you realize where it's coming from watch her training man she's amazing she's a fucking beast she's amazing super beast man she's she's trying to that up fuck move yeah this girl that's good that's good for strap when the chinese put their minds to it look what they do in um her fucking the strap on move her strength and conditioning routine I'm telling you man It's fucking ferocious This looks like some bullshit
Starting point is 01:10:47 She does this shit for an hour and a half It's a fucking ferocious routine Do you ever think that people just put this on video And they never do it ever again 100% These motherfuckers are watching TV It definitely does happen with some of them That's what I do, I do that thing with the band
Starting point is 01:11:04 I use a belt though What's that Chinese shit Watching TV. It definitely does happen with some of them. That's what I do. I do that thing with the band. I use a belt, though. Look at that. What's that Chinese shit? She does a lot of static shit like that. Well, whatever she's doing is working. We can clown all we want. She's so bad. Oh, she's a beast.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Look at this. Who did she beat? She beat Jessica Andrade. She smashed her. She beat the shit out of her. She smashed her. I'm really interested to see. Oh, that's awful.
Starting point is 01:11:26 That's a... What's that? Is that a... Can't open. Yeah, that's tough. I'm really interested to see her fight against Joanna. Joanna and Jacek. Are you?
Starting point is 01:11:34 Yeah, very interested. See if Joanna's still got it. Yeah, the big question mark, does Joanna still have it? Because that fucking Wally is just a monster. She's a monster. She's scary, dude. Yeah, she's a monster. And she hasn't really
Starting point is 01:11:45 Suffered any yet See when Ioana came Yeah look at this When Ioana came To the UFC She had already been A multiple time
Starting point is 01:11:52 Muay Thai champion And she You know You got a lot of Miles on you In training A lot of miles on you In fights
Starting point is 01:11:58 And then also Has a real struggle Making that 115 pound That limits the struggle For her See I want Shevchenko To go down and fight Thanks She can make it I mean she fought it it before remember but yeah but Shevchenko said she goes she needs to win more before I come down
Starting point is 01:12:13 and do a super fight really she just became champ she's gonna fight Joanne Calderwood she's fighting again she's turning around again she wants to be super active she's beating bitches up so how do you guys She's kind of like the John Jones of that division Where she's like Come on Are you down with bare knuckle That's a no
Starting point is 01:12:30 Bare knuckle fighting Or bare knuckle in the MMA Hey remember No bare knuckle fighting Remember you two You watch it I'm a fan of it He's all your fan
Starting point is 01:12:38 I like it You two wouldn't shut up about it Remember that You guys wanted bare knuckle In the UFC You wouldn't shut up about it I watched that Hexer L bare knuckle in the UFC and you went shut up about it. I watched that Hexer Lombard fight. Not me.
Starting point is 01:12:47 You guys were, you loved it. You loved it. You went on a football field. Remember that terrible idea? That's a great idea. That's a great idea. I still want that. Thank you, Eddie.
Starting point is 01:13:00 That's a great idea. The rest of you guys can suck my dick. Eddie's got my back. Football field MMA. Football field MMA No gloves Did you see Hector Lombard Oh you gotta see his ass be It's fucking fantastic He's back on that shit man
Starting point is 01:13:18 And he looks so good He definitely needs no testing It would be nice Phenomenal athlete man I'm looking forward to the day they release you over Merrill Yeah, he definitely needs no testing. It would be nice. Phenomenal athlete, man. I'm looking forward to the day they release you, Al Romero. And he goes over to China and he fights heavyweight. At 50 years old, he becomes the heavyweight champion of the world.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I think he's going to beat, all due respect, Awesome Adesanya. You think he's going to beat Adesanya? Adesanya's awesome. Scott Bender rolls through him, Brian. You want to bet right now? Yeah. We do it.
Starting point is 01:13:47 $1,000. You better fucking pay me, though. Really? Yeah. A grand? Yeah. Daddy makes money. Hey, hey, hey. You're on TV.
Starting point is 01:13:53 You won't bet $1,000? Come on, pussy. Dude, you have two sitcoms on ABC. I'll tell you what. Tell you what. I love you. I'll give you $1,000. You bet it.
Starting point is 01:14:02 You're such a pussy. I'll bet it. A grand. I got Stahlbender. A grand. And I love Stahlbender. The i say it is the only it's his last chance it's it's it's our boy you all run merrill's last chance to win a championship he never uses his wrestling and he's going to use his wrestling and he's going to and do what ground and pound stylebender the great stylebender and stylebender you're crazy You're crazy. Stylebender's going to watch this. I'm prepared to
Starting point is 01:14:25 lose a thousand bucks. I just want you to know that. I love Stylebender. I just want action. Yeah. I want action. I'm giving you a thousand bucks because I know you're cheap. I'm not dissing Stylebender. You've lost to him before and not paid, right? No, that's bullshit. He's lost to me too. He knows where we're at.
Starting point is 01:14:42 But wasn't there like a big loss? Didn't he lose like a big one? Yeah, he lost a big one What was the big one? How much was it? It was a large number Like 10 This is not a court of law I don't want
Starting point is 01:14:50 This is bullshit Hey, Jamie But we're friends What is the most that you guys have ever bet? Probably like $20,000 Yeah Just some ridiculous number Did he win?
Starting point is 01:15:02 I won Yeah, I won Because it's MMA bets, right? I can get Brendan going If I do something like this, if I go. If I just say something like, I don't want to see Jon Jones fight Stipe, because Stipe's going to knock him out. If I do that to Brendan, he gets so riled. Especially when he's confident about it, it drives me nuts.
Starting point is 01:15:19 And then everyone's like, he does it on purpose, and the fans don't realize it. They're like, you're mean to Brian. I'm like, oh like You guys don't understand What he's doing You have no idea What he's doing I know he loves style matters So I have to take
Starting point is 01:15:29 I have to take you out Looks like they're Stopping this fight The doctor's talking to Carolina Well please God don't Do people confuse you For Aaron Hernandez every day Yes they do
Starting point is 01:15:38 No When he was popping When he was like on trial Right now it's popping And we both had a shaved head Right now it's popping Yeah but he's dead Have you seen the Netflix thing He was a hot murderer You're right Have you seen it I have not seen it right now it's popping right now it's popping yeah but he's dead have you seen the Netflix thing
Starting point is 01:15:45 he was a hot murder you're right have you seen it I have not seen it I heard it's amazing dude with Aaron Hernandez I heard it's amazing I haven't seen it
Starting point is 01:15:52 so fucking good when I'm alone which is the only time I could ever watch something like that because my wife is not into that shit she won't be into it no when I'm alone she doesn't watch anything dark
Starting point is 01:16:00 but when I'm alone she lives with darkness it's insane so when I'm alone and I watch that stuff I just watch comedies when i'm alone when i'm alone i want to be silly she lives with darkness dude yeah it's insane could go off at any moment that is hernandez hernandez dope but have you seen don't fuck with cats no i heard it's amazing oh my god that's another thing that's the darkest one i've ever i don't want to see cats tortured it gets right up to the point
Starting point is 01:16:24 and then goes away. The only time you see the cat get fucked up, swear alert in three, two, one. He gets a python and puts a kitten in the room with the python. They got to stop this fight. She's getting hurt. She is. Carolina is tough, man. Carolina Kivakovich is a tough lady.
Starting point is 01:16:40 She's a tough lady. Shout out to the polls. She got KO'd by Jessica Andrade, though. Jessica Andrade flatlined her. Dude, I'm telling you, these Chinese chicks are blowing up, dude. They are blowing up, but I'm telling you, this girl got a gift decision over Angie. Are you watching what's going on right now? Yeah, Angie had that girl in a locked up triangle.
Starting point is 01:17:01 It was really funny because people got really mad at me because Angelo was in front of me and I'm like, pull the head, pull the head. I'm doing commentary and I'm telling her how to win. I love that though.
Starting point is 01:17:11 She's got it locked up. I love that though. She's just got to pull the head. She's got it locked in. She's got to pull the head. Pull the head. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:17:17 yeah, and people are like, you fucking piece of shit. They're going to stop it. She keeps holding her eye. That means she wants out. Well, I think she got poked.
Starting point is 01:17:25 I can't see. I think she got poked earlier in the fight. Manchego, anyone? Is that what it's called? Manchego? 12-month age. How do you know what to buy? He knows his shit, man.
Starting point is 01:17:34 How do you know about cheese? I'm an aristocrat. I grew up. I'm a foodie because of Brian now because we used to go on the road together. He wouldn't let me eat at any chains. He'd take me to all these special places. Now I'm the exact same way. It's so weird. Get on the carnivore diet i know i need to i fucking need to what's that i mostly just eat meat now i had four donuts yesterday i felt like uh last night i cheated
Starting point is 01:17:57 i i was i cooked for my kid and uh she wanted pasta and steak so i cooked steak for us and then pasta and there was a little bit of pasta left over. I'm like, let me just eat some of it. How much? A small bowl. I felt like shit. Don't be too hard on yourself. I felt like shit right after I ate it.
Starting point is 01:18:12 I've been eating almost only meat and eggs over the last few months. Joe Rogan, the extremist. You feel good? Dude, I feel amazing. I need to do something. I feel amazing. What's amazing feel like? You wake up in the morning, you're like good question legit question that's a very good question great
Starting point is 01:18:30 question what's amazing my energy levels are like the same like you just you never fucking out no i'm a little aggressive but do you not need a nap no no naps no nothing dude when i eat pasta or bread everything crashes. I just think my system, I've heard people say, too, when you get older, that your body just doesn't want to eat that stuff anymore. It's true. I don't understand how that's possible. Is it possible that when we were young, we just weren't aware of our bodies? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I feel like I need less food or I'm more sensitive to food now. I feel the exact opposite, you guys. I feel like my body wants more donuts My body wants donuts Believe me, that's my brain My brain wants donuts Yeah, so bad Dude, I take my kids to this donut shop on the way to school sometimes What's it called?
Starting point is 01:19:16 I don't want to tell anybody Voodoo Donuts? It's a good donut shop Is it a good one? It's a local place Okay But when we go there, it's so hard for me to say no to the donuts. But when I say yes, I always feel like a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:19:29 And you're like, it wasn't even that good. Right, right, right. It wasn't even that good. And then the rest of the day, you're like, ugh. But Voodoo Donuts, damn. Oh, they're good, dude. Oh, shit. They're good, man.
Starting point is 01:19:37 The crazy thing about Voodoo Donuts, they got children's coffins in the shop. I don't know what the purpose is, but that's pretty fucking weird. That's some Illuminati shit, bro. You should look into that. Dude, they got children's coffins at Voodoo Donuts. She is so tough.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Carolina is so tough. I'd never look into shit like that. That's a different body. I'm the Asian young lady, the Chinese young lady. Different body. What do you mean? I don't know how to say her name.
Starting point is 01:20:03 She's very trapped out. Trapped out with... The Asian lady? Yeah. Different body. What do you mean? I don't know how to say her name. She's very trapped out. Trapped out with... The Asian lady? Yeah. Yeah, she just has some traps on her shoulders. She just looks like she's fit. Something's in her eye. She looks like a gal that goes to CrossFit.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Yeah, Carolina's having a hard time with that right eye. She's protecting it, but it's a real struggle. I just want to get to the main event. She needs a crescent kick right to that thing. Boom. Crescent kick. Hell yeah. Don't act like.
Starting point is 01:20:28 The only person I ever saw throwing a crescent kick in the MMA was Anderson. Jackie Chan? Anderson threw a crescent kick at somebody once. I don't think he ever did. He did. I think that was a dream of yours. He threw an inside crescent kick. He went like that?
Starting point is 01:20:39 This way. Inside is this way. Oh, no, no. No. But what about hitting with the inside of your foot like Jackie Chan? Oh, yeah. No, he hit with the outside.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Is this the last round? I think that's how you see because the outside axe kick, maybe I'm confusing him because axe kick, the outside goes like this straight down and inside goes like this.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Keep scoring with that jab. It's hard for these people that realize that title contention is kind of out for them, and then they just keep fighting. Because someone says, hey, do you want to make 50 grand? It's a bummer. Yeah, I need 50 grand. But how else are you going to make 50 grand? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:21:17 How else are you going to make 50 grand? But here's the thing about the UFC that people always talk about. Like, oh, fighters make so much more well they're not really see at the top of the heap fighters make more but it's only like Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao when you look at the top levels of boxing versus the top levels of MMA MMA fighters make a lot of fucking money but then when you look at the undercard the top uh the the top guys make the big money. But the undercard in boxing is terrible.
Starting point is 01:21:49 It's dog shit. They don't pay anything. They pay nothing. All the money goes to guys like Canelo. All the money goes to the Earl Spence Juniors, the Terrence Crawfords. When it gets down to the actual undercard fighters, they make fucking chump change.
Starting point is 01:22:02 And you're saying the UFC, they pay their fighters better on average? The undercard guys make they make fucking chump change. And you're saying the UFC, they pay their fighters better on average? They make more. The undercard guys make more in the UFC than they do on boxing matches. God, she looks terrible. She's about to do that three-piece soda thing right there. Three-piece in a soda? You see that? She was sitting back
Starting point is 01:22:20 like Maz Vidal. Three-piece in a soda is when he boxed up Leon Edwards in the backstage. I couldn't think of George Masvidal's name. You need those crackers on here? I'm not going to chew them. You're going to suck on them? What do you think about Masvidal versus Usman? I love it.
Starting point is 01:22:33 What do you think? I love it. Well, I just love the fact that Masvidal is going to fight for the title. Has Masvidal ever been on your podcast? Yes. He has. He's great. I miss that shit.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Yeah, he's great. He's great. I love him. I love that dude. He's been to my gym a couple times great I miss that shit yeah he's great he's great I love him I love that dude he's been in my gym a couple times I love that guy I told him
Starting point is 01:22:49 I said hey dude I got a move called three piece in a soda after you and he goes dude I gotta know it show it to me
Starting point is 01:22:54 I gotta know it if someone asks me I have to know it it's just a combo it's a pass it's a three piece and the soda's the head it's the chest pass
Starting point is 01:23:02 where like I'm on top one push the legs is the head it's a the chest pass okay got like i'm on top one push push the legs to the side two grab the hips three grab the trap and the soda is the head and the chin so that's the three piece in the soda hey b this is a wet cheese pass i love it it's wet though what is a wet cheese what does that mean like a brie it's a soft milky open that up daddy it's a beautiful cheese daddy that's a cheese? It's like a brie It's a soft milky cheese Open that up daddy It's a beautiful cheese Open that up cheese daddy Are you in a cheese now?
Starting point is 01:23:27 Has he got you in a cheese? Oh yeah You know what was really In a weird cheese? Bourdain He would be in the stuff That stunk Like stinky cheese?
Starting point is 01:23:35 I don't like that Stunk man Limburgers and those We used to add Stinky cheese to stuff When we did Fear Factor To make it smell worse To make people more disgusted. We would go to this
Starting point is 01:23:46 very... Oh, look at this rolling. No, too far. She's too high up. She's too high up. She's not out of the woods yet. Not totally, but I'm not buying it. The Formagier. Oh, look at that. Look at that. She's deep. Look at that. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:24:02 That is tight. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. You're tight. Oh, shit. You're crazy. You think this Chinese girl's tapping. Oh, I don't know about that. She just turned over that leg. She's in trouble. That girl's in real fucking trouble.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Yeah, but she's in, so what? She's in real fucking trouble. See, that's an example of people always say, oh, leg locks are dangerous in MMA. Some are. Yes, some are. But some aren't. Some can actually save you in MMA. Some leg lock positions, if you're But some aren't. Some can actually save you in MMA. Some leg lock positions, if you're fucked up and you're-
Starting point is 01:24:29 Oh, shit. Look at that. She can reach her face here. No. So when you reap, if you're reaping, you're safe. Bro, she's tearing this girl's knee apart. What's she to do here? She's elbowing the fuck out of her thigh.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Well, that ain't working. She's going after her left leg. Her left leg's in danger. Carolina is not. She's out. She doesn't have it totally her thigh. That ain't working, though. She's going after her left leg. Her left leg's in danger. Carolina is not. She's out. She doesn't have it totally locked in. She's going to sit up. No, she ain't out.
Starting point is 01:24:51 She ain't out yet. She's still got the reap. She ain't out, man. She's not out. She's not out. She's going to pass the health card. Look at her left knee. Her left knee's deep.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Her left knee's in big trouble. Look at that. I mean, it's not guaranteed that she's going to tap her, but she's still in danger. In real danger. Especially given how high the shin is. She can transition here. She can't do shit. Now she's doing better.
Starting point is 01:25:13 She can't do shit until she gets that left leg out. She's going to slice that leg through. She's doing better. Not yet. You've got to realize that Carolina is in the third round. She's been getting beat up. She's going to get her again. She's going to push that reep.
Starting point is 01:25:24 She's going to push her right leg, push that reap. Look at that. Again, she's in danger again. Interesting. Her foot is white as shit. See it? You guys see it?
Starting point is 01:25:35 She's Polish. It's as white as it gets. That's a mummy foot right there. Oh, look. She's switching to a guillotine. That's nice. Oh, my God. If she gets this,
Starting point is 01:25:43 I'm going to freak out. With the reap. Oh, my God. Wow, that's crazy. If she wins this, I'm going to freak out. With the Reap. Oh, my God. Wow, that's crazy. If she wins this, I'm going to lose my fucking mind. Why? Because I just don't. Okay, the Reap's out now.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Now the Reap's out. She's just got it across. Look at her right foot. She got in halfway land where she was kind of half in on the Reap and half in on the guillotine. That's the whitest foot I've ever seen. Look at that foot, dude. That foot's dying. I'm talking about the walking dead foot. It's the walking dead foot. It's the oneest foot I've ever seen I just want Look at that foot dude That foot's dying I'm talking about the walking dead foot
Starting point is 01:26:07 It's the walking dead foot It's the walking dead foot It's the walking dead foot It's dying on the vine There's no blood There's no blood on her foot Jesus Christ Her right foot is dead
Starting point is 01:26:14 Where is this being fought by the way? This is in New Zealand If she underhooked The girl's left leg If she underhooked With the rest That's, that's nothing. That's nothing. It's nothing for now.
Starting point is 01:26:28 She has nothing. It's nothing for now. If she under, with the right, see her right arm, if she underhooks that left ankle, if she under, and then takes that leg to the other side and takes her left leg and puts it on her other side, on her left hip, that's a honey hole right there. That's a whole different game. She just can't reach that foot, her left foot. She can't reach it.
Starting point is 01:26:46 If she could underhook that left ankle and pass it to the other side of her body, roof it over right there, boom. She's not thinking about it. She's just thinking about that heel hook. She should take it over to the inside. Look, is she going to do it? She's trying for that heel again. She's going back to the heel. Oh, now she's on top.
Starting point is 01:27:01 She used the leg lock to get on top. Look at that. She used the leg lock To get on top Look at that She used the leg lock To get on top That's a part of the game That we That we haven't really seen That much That's what I always say
Starting point is 01:27:13 But now look She's on top now right Full guard She had a leg lock And now she's on top That's a switch Too late though It's too late
Starting point is 01:27:19 But it's a Legit transition It's interesting How many different layers There are to jujitsu on the ground. The scrambles on the ground. There's so many layers
Starting point is 01:27:29 and sometimes you only see people, it's like people having a conversation when they have a real limited vocabulary versus someone who's very eloquent who knows all the different words and all the different ways to use them. The game keeps growing. It keeps growing.
Starting point is 01:27:44 I pronounce it I pronounce it look at that boom did you see her face she was angry dangerous is the main event next for God's sakes no man what is the next fight young Jamie what do we got here? Put it up on the wall. I just want the main event. We got at least another fight. I'm excited. What do we got here, Jamie? Put it up on the wall. It's 530. We're halfway through the show.
Starting point is 01:28:11 What do we got? Jim Crute. Jim Crute. How do you say his name? He's a bruiser. Crute. Are you guys excited about this Wilder? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:28:20 I can't wait. Beyond excited. We talked about it for two hours. Hey. You weren't here. Are you not excited about it? I'm very excited about it. I can't wait. We talked about it for two hours. Hey! You weren't here. Are you not excited about it? I'm very excited about it. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:28:29 You want to bet on that, too? Do you need to borrow more money? I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. Uh-oh, what do you got? With Joe's money, I'm going to bet $1,000. Who are you betting on? I think Deontay is going to win because I think he's just got too much power.
Starting point is 01:28:46 And if you make one mistake, you're in big trouble. You sound like an expert. Here is a better fighter, better boxer. Stephen A. Smith ain't got shit on you, bro. It sounds like you've been listening to the podcast while you were on the freeway over here. Were you listening to the podcast? I don't know what you're talking about. Just regurgitate stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Seriously, though. I have no idea what you're talking about. Were you listening to the stream? No, no, no. But Tyson decided to I have no idea what you're talking about. Were you listening to the stream? No, no. But Tyson decided to come in heavier. Don't change the subject. Well, he's fat.
Starting point is 01:29:11 That's why he kept his shirt on. He's out of shape. Yeah. Teddy Atlas was talking about it. He was saying there's only one time you keep your shirt on in the way, and that's when you're fat. 100%. Poor girl. I can relate to that.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Kevin is such a tough... Teddy Atlas. Not Teddy Atlas, but we were talking about it before you got here. There's rumors that Tyson Fury has ankle injuries and that he's injured before this fight, like pretty significantly. He couldn't do road work. That's why he's heavier. Yeah, and his whole move is movement.
Starting point is 01:29:36 That's what separates him from the rest of the pack is movement. Six foot nine and movement and footwork. You take out that movement? What do you got? You want to do a blow for blow against Wilder? Good luck. That's why daddy has a lot of money. Blow for blow against the biggest puncher the world has ever seen.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Blow for blow sounds like a cocaine battle, right? Blow for blow, dude. Let's see who's heart stops first. Get the defibrillator. Do, do, do, do. Do, do, do, do, do, do. It's like quarters for coke. Is that the co-main?
Starting point is 01:30:08 Dude, China's stepping up. China's no joke. Jim Crude's the co-main, yeah. Dude, with a billion people plus. He's got Mary tattooed on his ribs. A billion people. What do you fucking think is going to happen with this goddamn coronavirus? Are you worried about this shit?
Starting point is 01:30:20 I thought I had it last week in Ontario. Oh, dude. I was so scared. First of all, it's not fatal in most cases. Yes. In fact, most cases it's very mild. No, that's not true. How many people have died from the flu?
Starting point is 01:30:29 How many people have died from the flu in just America? More than that. When? Like 4,000, right? When? A thousand. Like the history of mankind? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Every year. Okay, every year. A thousand, a thousand. But the coronavirus is actually more deadly than the flu. That's what they're telling you. You've got to remember, where are you getting your information from? CNN.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Only CNN. That's all I trust. You're the best. CNN's the best. Don Lemon? Are you kidding me? Don Lemon is the greatest newscaster of all time. He's right up there with Michael Williams. Oh my God, that guy is hysterical.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Wait, so we're not worried about coronavirus? It's hard to believe anything. I don't know what's going on. I mean, there's crazy different theories. Give me a few, Eddie. Okay, did you know that this guy right there, Stylebender, he's going to cost me a thousand bucks.
Starting point is 01:31:22 He's such a badass. Look at him. He's the best. I love him. Yoel Romero. See you soon, boy. Yoel Romero is going to- Did you see Dana at the Trump rally? Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Hell yeah. It's his boy. Hell yeah. Look, Dana White is a loyal guy. He's loyal. He's loyal to good people that are good to him, right? Yes. If you're loyal to him, he's loyal to you. He wouldn good to him yes if you're loyal to him he's loyal
Starting point is 01:31:45 to you wouldn't be loyal to a shit bag no no well you know his relationship with donald trump is you know all business they're like friends right friends and they've been friends for 20 years yeah jesus he's rough uh well so back to your thing though the coronavirus give me some do you know you guys like maybe like two weeks ago there was a guy harvard professor that got uh his name is uh george church dr george church okay he got busted for taking uh money from china oh that's right he was involved in like virus yeah and bio weapons and all that shit right you know the guy yeah in, they only have one bio lab, like level four. It's in Wuhan. Yeah, in Wuhan.
Starting point is 01:32:27 And he died, right? It's in Wuhan. So no, no, no. This professor gets busted for taking all this money from China. You know who else was giving him millions and millions of dollars? Who? Jeffrey Epstein. Really?
Starting point is 01:32:38 Hell yeah. He was giving who? The professor? Dr. George Church. How much was he giving him? Their buddy's tight. Millions. That guy was ball time, bro.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Jeffrey Epstein was giving a lot of people money. Well, check this out. Jeffrey Epstein was black, his job was to blackmail politicians, celebrities, and scientists. How weird.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Like, why would you blackmail, why would he blackmail a politician, for instance? Why would you do that? Why would he blackmail a politician for instance? Why would you do that? And because you want certain things Why would you blackmail a celebrity? Cuz you want them to weigh in on something you want Why would you blackmail a celebrity because they have sway right if they can influence exactly Why would you blackmail scientists? Do you want to fuck them. You want information.
Starting point is 01:33:25 No, you want to fuck them, right? Or you want them to create some sort of hat. Okay, wait, let's back up. We're blackmailing politicians. Why? Look at what Jamie has up here. No link between Harvard scientist Charles Lieber and the coronavirus. That means there's a link.
Starting point is 01:33:38 That just means there's a link. Lieber, a nanoscientist, was charged for lying about his participation in a Chinese recruitment program and his affiliation with a Chinese university. He is not accused of being a spy. That's not the guy I'm talking about. I'm talking about Dr. George Church. I know. I looked him up.
Starting point is 01:33:56 I didn't see him. Wrong guy, Jamie. He didn't get arrested. Jesus, Jamie. Wrong guy, Jamie. Charles Lieber is a different guy. That's a different guy. George Church didn't get arrested.
Starting point is 01:34:03 No, he didn't get arrested No he didn't get arrested He didn't get arrested But he's He's in trouble That's coronavirus That's what it sounds like You know what the crazy thing is Let me do it
Starting point is 01:34:17 Dude you know what the crazy thing is Is Okay I'll shut up That means shut the fuck up I'll shut the fuck up i think so scared shut the fuck up i got a lot more information you're telling me is this about the coronavirus no it's about the fucking modelo virus oh so you do you think that humans what do you think we're talking about it's about the no we're talking about? It's about the AIDS virus. No, we're talking about super AIDS.
Starting point is 01:34:45 The new AIDS, bro. Coronavirus. That's old school. Are you saying it was created by a human? Do you know that a human... It makes me want to shut the fuck up when I hear that. That thing's scary. That makes me want to talk about britney spears new album no
Starting point is 01:35:05 i'm creating here because you're about to drop some knowledge i don't know let's change the subject you don't you don't think scientists made up the coronavirus you don't think chinese i think viruses can sometimes spring up on their own yep i don't know that's true the only bio lab that deals with that in China is in Wuhan. That is true. That's the only one. And there are legitimate scientists that are speculating that this might have been something that was accidentally released from the lab. And I'll say this. They don't contain those things very well, particularly when you're dealing with a country like China.
Starting point is 01:35:37 It doesn't have the same sort of standards that like when you have in Galveston at the CDC center where they have things like Ebola and all these different things in the containment. They have incredibly strict procedures that they use to handle that stuff. A little loosey-goosey. Didn't the main guy who was dealing with coronavirus, the Chinese guy, he died from the coronavirus. The guy who was blowing the whistle on the coronavirus and then he was censored by the Chinese government did die
Starting point is 01:36:00 from the virus. They probably, yeah. Oh, he died of the virus. Meanwhile, he's hanging in a fucking closet oh yeah no no the coronavirus got him how's that look at this they're advertising wilder and fury even on the fucking ufc well yes because he comes after but it's not is it on espn plus because i didn't see it on espn pm plus regular pay-per-view shit fox and espn co lukewarm but but you don't you can't get it off espn plus can you no espn's pay-per-view shit. Fox and ESPN co-hosting it or something. But you can't get it off ESPN Plus,
Starting point is 01:36:27 can you? No. ESPN's pay-per-view, I believe. But I tried. I looked at it on ESPN Plus. I had to order it on DirecTV.
Starting point is 01:36:32 That's what I did. I just over-reacted dish pay-per-view. I recorded that shit on two different TVs. Oh, I'm done with cheese. I'm so scared this all goes down.
Starting point is 01:36:39 I get so scared I'm going to miss it. Which one's this? That's a naked goat. I'm going to shit my pants, Brian. A naked goat? What does that mean? Yeah, I'm going to try some naked goat. I like your attitude, a naked goat. I'm going to shit my pants, Brian. A naked goat? Geez, what does that mean?
Starting point is 01:36:45 Yeah, I'm going to try some naked goat. I like your attitude, young man. I always think we should get a big, nice pizza. I'll eat raw oysters. Pizza? I always think we should always get a nice, big cheese pizza here. How do we not have pizza? Eddie, you want to?
Starting point is 01:36:56 We never have. We can't? There should be a pizza right here. Because we've got to get someone to deliver it. Man, some fucking weirdo comes here and they're like, hey, man, what's with the werewolf? No, no, no. You can't meet him outside., no. Meet him outside. Meet him outside.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Have one of the security guys do it? Yeah. No. One of those badasses do it. Have him come out with an AR. Those guys know their way around AR. Yeah, come out with ski masks and fucking, what are those scarves around their neck they wear in Afghanistan? It's pronounced Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Oh, okay. I don't care. Keep talking. There's a lot of good Afghanistan. Oh, okay. I don't care. Keep talking. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of good fights coming up, man. Rosenstreich. Rosenstreich and Francis. That's, to me, whoo!
Starting point is 01:37:33 That is guns away. Bombs over Baghdad. Whoo! Boom! Whoo! Who knows what? That's Michael? No, no, a different guy.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Sorry. What's up with that name? Joanne Ginger Jicks is gonna block that dude it's like fuck him trying to take my fucking
Starting point is 01:37:50 shine he's from Poland right how do you say that name Olyngia I forget none of you guys can say it I used to do it
Starting point is 01:37:59 I don't even attempt anymore I've called his fights before too I don't even attempt I just call them by their first name or their nicknames can you imagine if Joanna married that guy? Well, they started calling her Joanna Champion.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I know, but it was so tough. And then she had to dash in between the names. She goes, I'm going to use both names. Can you imagine? Joanna marries this guy, and she wants to keep her last name, but dash his last name. Hyphen. Dude. Bro, let me be straight.
Starting point is 01:38:22 If your wife did not want to take your last name and she wanted to hyphenate, I would be like, what the fuck are you talking about? This ain't going to work out. What are you talking about? What are you doing? You want a yin-yang check. You want to get married and you don't even want to take my name? No, we're out. So the whole thing about getting married is I'm taking a risk that I might lose everything.
Starting point is 01:38:41 At least half, yeah. At least half. But more than half. It's really two-thirds because you've got to pay for legal fees. And the rest of your life. And then also you've got to pay for the emotional pain of getting Oh, sorry, Brian. Your life breaking up.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Have some whiskey. I get along with my ex really well, though. You do, though. You're in a rare situation. Your ex is very cool and you guys get along very well. So you're in a great spot, then. You got through the fucking fire. You walked through the fire. Because of her. But Rogan.
Starting point is 01:39:08 She's been awesome. Joe, what do we say? This isn't a knock on Amanda, but since Brian separated, he's never been happier. He's never been funnier. Never been funnier. He's never been a better worker. I've said it to him. He shows up on time.
Starting point is 01:39:20 I said it to you independently that he doesn't know about, but I said it to him. He's never been funnier. Never been funnier. The best. He's on fire now. You and I don't hate each other anymore. He's going to get married and get another divorce. It'd be even better.
Starting point is 01:39:31 He's getting better. He has writer's block. He goes, I get it. Let me marry some bitch. Knock her up. He's killing it, man. Revive my career. Now that he's this free bird, he's killing it.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Come see me in Omaha and in Kansas City April 3rd and 4th Ladies and gentlemen Where you at? That's a long ways away Kansas City April? I've already sold out in Omaha I think
Starting point is 01:39:51 Congratulations That's cool man Is that this weekend B? No that's When is that? You have no idea That 28th and 29th 28th and 29th
Starting point is 01:40:01 Yeah I'm at the Funny Bone Omaha Yeah Nebraska Funny Bone. You've done that. Have I? Yeah. I got some crazy shows in April, man.
Starting point is 01:40:12 You're back with Chappelle, yeah? Yeah, we're doing two shows. One in Nashville, one in New Orleans. They're both basically sold out. There's like single tickets available. If you have a hard time selling out, I'll post it on my Instagram. Thank you. And then we've got 420.
Starting point is 01:40:26 You guys doing arenas? Yeah, all arenas. Giant ass arenas. And I'm doing an arena on 422 on a Monday night. In Vancouver. In Vancouver, right? Yeah. Your flyer was everywhere and people were telling me about it.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Yeah. I've never seen you in shorts and I'm liking your legs. There, I said it out loud. They're thick. Should we throw out a date? Can I throw out a couple? Yeah, what do you got? Just a couple.
Starting point is 01:40:44 You doing tinfoil hat shows? Tinfoil hat show with Sam Tripoli. March 19th at the Ice House. We haven't been there in like a year and a half. And then April 11th at, shit, Huntington Beach at the Rec Room. You and Tripoli's a good show. I love Tripoli. I love Tripoli.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Tripoli's one of my favorite people. He's a fucking monster. He's one guy I never say no to. I don't do anybody's, all those promoters that used to come to the store, I don't do any of those fuck shows anymore.
Starting point is 01:41:10 But I do Sam's show. Sam's the best. Sam's the, he's my boy. You know, just like anybody. I love him. Just like anybody, man.
Starting point is 01:41:16 If you're in front of a crowd that loves you and it's packed, it brings out the best in you, right? Your best performances are in front of packed houses and they're screaming. But a lot of comedians never get to that point. So it's like a catch-22. You never see the best than you, right? Your best performances are in front of packed houses and they're screaming. But a lot of comedians
Starting point is 01:41:26 never get to that point. So it's like a catch-22. You never see the best of them. And Sam Tripoli, it took a while for him to get to that point. But now he's at that point. Dude, I am a witness.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I watch him smash high level. Oh, dude. High level smashing. I've been performing with him forever. I would watch that guy. I'd have the best set of my life. He'd come up and follow me and do 50 minutes crush. Afghanistan, when we went there for the USO tour, he would be the one, because all of
Starting point is 01:41:52 us were too afraid to open, because you didn't know. You'd be like shitty Mike and stuff. Why did you do that? Afghanistan? 2007. I spent two weeks there. And Sam, me, Dov Davidoff, and Steve Byrne went there, and Sam would open. Not because he was an opener at all, because he's funny.
Starting point is 01:42:08 He's all of us. But he was so good at getting the crowd going and his improv. He was just, I called him, he's the monster. He's a fucking monster. He's the best. He's incredible. He also just had kids. He just had twins.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Oh, here comes the baby jokes. Here comes the baby jokes. He's going to be even funnier. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So what is the co-main? Oh here comes the baby jokes Here comes the baby jokes Oh yeah So what is the co-main? Is this the co-main? This is the co-main Oh okay
Starting point is 01:42:31 We got that knee brace on Yeah I don't like that I see a dude with a knee brace Unless it's Sakuraba It could be a trick It could be his other knee that's hurt You know what I mean? Damn this dude on the right That's what I would do If my right knee was hurt I'd have a brace be his other knee That's hurt You know what I mean This dude on the right
Starting point is 01:42:45 That's what I would do If my right knee was hurt I'd have a brace On my left knee That's hilarious Dude on the right The ref is a I think it's a pole
Starting point is 01:42:53 Why do you say that Speaking of poles Did you guys see That stripper fall From that pole Oh my god Dude And she kept
Starting point is 01:43:02 Fucking She kept twerking She kept twerking Soldier She kept twerking. Soldier. She's a hottie too. Soldier. She's probably seen stars and Tweety Brothers. Dude, I DJ'd at a strip club for 10 years and the strip pole at my club was probably
Starting point is 01:43:15 one fourth of that height. That was fucking 100 feet. Why would they do that? Why would they do that? What the fuck were they? Yeah, what are you doing? Because they don't have any regard for the safety of the gals that work there. How dare you?
Starting point is 01:43:28 That's some dangerous shit. Plus, they have a high ceiling and they wanted a pole. People just don't respect the work. That pole shit. Dude, come on. There's art to pole dancing. Have you ever gotten in a pole? That's some real shit.
Starting point is 01:43:39 I don't want to talk about it. He was Johnny Legend. Remember we trained at legends and there was the pole dancing class whoa what a catch
Starting point is 01:43:48 I think Groot was a wrestler jiu jitsu you still got it reflex is still there I went to when we used to train at legends
Starting point is 01:43:54 rather there was that pole dancing class Chris Riley's girl used to teach right next to it for the longest time those girls are talented
Starting point is 01:44:00 there was two Planet HQ in the same building as a pole dancing school we did that for years. We did that forever. Dude, I'd be teaching a class, and then you'd hear some nine-inch nails and shit in the background.
Starting point is 01:44:11 You're closer or something. That Legends that we had on the east side was a sketchy neighborhood, but a great spot. Oh, so big. So giant. Oh, this kid's amazing. Good wrestling. That's the spot where we filmed me and GSP working out together. That was the spot where Michael Jai White sidekicked the bag and sent it flying and snapped the chain.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Broke it off the ceiling. Michael Jai White is legit as fuck. He's a big, strong dude. He's legit as fuck. We were talking about sidekicks, and Michael Jai White, who's a kyokushin guy he he did a hopping sidekick on this bag and fucking sent it flying it snapped the chain yeah that was the chain had problems this was a no it did it did but it was it didn't look it's not normal that someone throws a kick on a bag and the chain breaks the chain had probably it was the chain was chris had told
Starting point is 01:45:01 us that the chain was falling apart it It had popped before. But it was the perfect explanation. It was the perfect demonstration of his technique. It was like a scene in a movie. Well, the scene was me blowing you up for 20 minutes on how amazing your sidekick is and how you fold bags and this and that and all these stories about your sidekick. And he goes, oh, really? And then he looks at the bag and he throws a sidekick and he breaks it off the ceiling i'm like there goes my story he looks like this he's huge great guy too he's a great guy he's big though right he's a
Starting point is 01:45:37 smart guy he's a really smart guy dude this is uh michael john White is like, out of all the guys who have never fought in MMA or fought professionally, his technique is as legit as you're ever going to see. As legit as anybody. Like his wheel kicks, roundhouse kicks, his side kicks, everything's perfect form. I think where he got in trouble is he did that video trying to give Kimbo and some other guys advice on fighting. I think the way he was explaining that Kimbo didn't want to listen, some people thought was disrespectful
Starting point is 01:46:12 particularly because Kimbo was dead. I just think look at this. Kimura, Kimura, Kimura. It's over. It's a wrap. It's over. It's over. That's it. That fight, he. It's a wrap. Is he covering the head? It's over. The head? It's over. Oh, man. That's it.
Starting point is 01:46:25 That fight, he didn't let that dude breathe. No. Damn, he's good. He's rough. His grappling was phenomenal. Good wrestling. I'm going to take a leak real quick. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:46:36 What's his pedigree? That's Mike Bernardo. Mike Bernardo, a former big-time kickboxer. Go with the fucked-up nose in his corner. So where is he from he's from Poland oh okay damn
Starting point is 01:46:49 he tore him up what were we gonna say about Michael J though no the other guy's from Poland no that guy's from Poland I thought Crute's from Poland as well is he
Starting point is 01:46:56 no Crute's American I think he's American oh no he's New Zealand I'm sorry he's from New Zealand my bad sorry Crute he's from New Zealand
Starting point is 01:47:01 that's why he came out like a fucking banshee yeah oh that makes sense boom no He's from New Zealand. My bad. Sorry, Groot. He's from New Zealand. That's why he came out like a fucking banshee. Yeah. Oh, that makes sense. Boom. No. He landed.
Starting point is 01:47:13 You don't see a lot of those. Strong, dude. When you step over with that left leg, oh my God. It's so hard to get out of that. All of Frank Mir, Noguera, remember that? Oh, crap. I'll never forget. How do you avoid him stepping over your head like that? You just tap.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Oh, dude. You don't. Just tap. Once you're in that position, it's kind of late. How do you avoid him stepping over your head like that? You just tap. Oh, dude. You don't. Just tap. Once you're in that position, it's kind of late. You don't let him get that. Don't let him isolate your arm, for God's sake. Unless you're Hicks and Gracie. That's not good, dude.
Starting point is 01:47:33 No. Yeah, he's going to be sore in the morning. Well, the problem is it's tearing shit inside of his shoulder that might never be the same again. You know what? I told you when I got an MRI on my shoulder, I was having some problems, and they said, your shoulder's been dislocated. And I'm like, I don't know. And they go, you don't your shoulder's been dislocated. And I'm like, I don't know. And they go, you don't know that your shoulder was dislocated?
Starting point is 01:47:49 I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, how did your shoulder get dislocated? Has your shoulder ever been in a bad position? I started laughing. And I was like, yeah, like fucking 20 times a week. Like, what are you talking about? Like, if someone gets you in a camorra and you don't tap, your shoulder's in a bad position all the time like all the shit that goes on there's like little pieces of stuff probably
Starting point is 01:48:09 floating around inside my shoulder it's the same guy did warrior gavin o'connor i think this is his good so i should pass on this movie too you didn't like warrior i thought you loved it i thought you loved it well the problem was the fact they fought two days in a row, which is never going to happen in the history of the world. They didn't have to do that. That movie, this is the problem with fucking movie producers. What movie? They do movie. Warrior?
Starting point is 01:48:37 Warrior. There's some great scenes in Warrior. There's some great scenes in Warrior, but they decided to get fucky with it. And when they get fucky, it was when they make things happen that would never happen, like a guy fighting hardcore cage fights two days in a row. You don't do that. The next day, you're a wreck on a railroad track. You barely walk.
Starting point is 01:48:54 That's also why you hate Foxcatcher, too, right? Well, Foxcatcher, that's even worse. I love that movie. Because with Foxcatcher, they changed a real story. They fucked with a real story. It's not a documentary, bro. Take it easy. Well, they changed a real story. They fucked with a real story. It's not a documentary, bro. Take it easy. Well, here's a big part.
Starting point is 01:49:09 They made Mark Schultz fight a Russian guy in the UFC. He fought Big Daddy Goodrich. It's MMA history. I mean, it's a big part of MMA history. It's well documented. It's a show. They also made him gay. Like, you know, kind of.
Starting point is 01:49:25 They insinuated For sure That he was kind of gay I didn't see that In the movie? Yeah His Instagram would They insinuated
Starting point is 01:49:34 Some stuff in the movie That was not good What are you saying? No Don't say it No I'm not I'm just saying Instagram is
Starting point is 01:49:40 Now why did you guys Talk about Warrior? How did you guys Get into movies? Whose Instagram is real good? Listen, let's go. A movie with what? I'm just an American speaking.
Starting point is 01:49:49 How did we get on the Warrior? Pete Buttigieg is a real mayor, and he's a good guy, and you should shut the fuck up. No, I know. I know. I'm just saying, as well as me, I'm talking as an American. Oh, Ben Affleck, there was a commercial for his movie. He's a basketball coach. And Brian was saying, this is by the guy who directed Warrior. And I said, so I should avoid this movie, too.
Starting point is 01:50:06 And then Brian was like, what the fuck? You liked Warrior. I go, except for the fuckery. Like when they made them fight two days in a row. That was an MMA movie? I didn't see that. Yeah. But people fight two times in the same night.
Starting point is 01:50:17 That's different. That's different. Two days in a row is impossible. You would be so busted up. Your face would be swollen up like the Elephone Man. Yeah. Elephone Man. Elephone Man? Hoist fought four guys in one night.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Yeah, one night. In one night, you can do it. Two days is different. You don't think? Yeah, I don't even think they should do it in one night. Who's that guy? I don't know. He must have fought earlier.
Starting point is 01:50:36 He's all cut up. He looks like a rugby superstar. Well, he's all busted up. No, he's too skinny. He has dreads. He probably fought earlier in the card. He's probably a flanker. Oh, so this gentleman's from New Zealand, too.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Mark Bernardo is a beast. That dude is right. He's a serious kickboxer. I've watched his videos, Bernardo. Serious kickboxer. Back in the legit K-1 days. Looks like he put a hurtin' on you anyway. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Jesus. That Kimura, man. Once a dude steps over your head, Eddie, what the fuck can he do here? He's got to use his right arm. See how he's attacking his left arm? It's too late. Right there, it's too late. But he needed to use his free arm to go in between both arms and hook.
Starting point is 01:51:19 And that stops the Kimura. But it's too late. In between both arms? What do you mean? So he's getting... So this arm's getting Kimura'd, right? Yeah. So this one is your free arm.
Starting point is 01:51:29 You got to get it in between his arms and hook this arm just like that, and you're good. Okay. I mean, you could still get your back taken, but at least you survive the Kimura. But then you got to deal with the back take. When you went to the bathroom,
Starting point is 01:51:42 we were talking about Kimura. I was like... I went to get an MRI when I had some shoulder problems. They told me my shoulder had been dislocated. And they're like, was there ever any time
Starting point is 01:51:52 where your shoulder was in an uncomfortable position? I'm like, yeah, like four times a week. Like, what are you talking about? Like, if you do jujitsu, like at least four times a week, you get...
Starting point is 01:52:01 It's a golf ball that's kind of floating, right? It's a bad joint. Yeah, it's floating. It's a shitty design. So it's not connected to anything. It's the muscles around the golf ball in's kind of floating, right? It's a bad joint. Yeah, it's floating. It's a shitty design. So it's not connected to anything. It's the muscles around the golf ball in the socket that actually keep it. Well, it moves in such a weird way.
Starting point is 01:52:12 But I'll tell you one thing, man. One of the best things that I've ever done for my shoulders is what you and I were doing the other day. We were hanging from your shoulder. Hanging from your shoulder. Oh, that's great for you. It's so good. Your shoulders need to, to like they need space yeah like it need it needs that and hanging is just gigantic another thing that's really big
Starting point is 01:52:32 for me man is club bells those clubs those metal clubs steel maces we do no it's like it it's a club it's almost like a bowling pin yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And you do these shield casts where you throw it over your shoulder and put it in front of you so it's like this shit. It's all this building up of all that tissue, and it gives you a nice range of motion. I love those. This is a good fight. Benavidez and Figueredo.
Starting point is 01:53:03 I just want Benavidez to win. Exactly. Get the belt, and let's get rid just want Benavidez to win Exactly Get the belt I love Benavidez Get rid of the division I want him to get the belt And then retire Yep exactly He's like what 37
Starting point is 01:53:11 At that age 125 125 How old is Joe Benavidez He's been doing it for a hot second He has been You guys are close You've known each other a long time
Starting point is 01:53:20 Love Joe Benavidez One of the nicest guys Him and his wife All time Megan O'Leary They're great They're both amazing But Joe is like Legitimately one of the nicest guys of all time. Megan O'Leary, they're great. They're both amazing.
Starting point is 01:53:26 But Joe is like legitimately one of the nicest guys ever. Such a great guy. He's been training with Casey Halstead for the last couple years too. In Vegas, really. 10th part of Vegas.
Starting point is 01:53:34 Nice. Beautiful. He hasn't fought in a while, you know? No, he had an ACL reconstruction. That's right. And then he came back
Starting point is 01:53:41 and won. Now he's fighting for the fucking title. Figueredo's no joke, though, man. That guy can crack. He's also been doing it for a hot second. And he's a powerhouse, man. Is he Brazilian?
Starting point is 01:53:51 Yeah. Serious power. This dude rides fucking water buffaloes and shit. There's videos of him riding those crates. Like these motherfuckers. Like this thing. It's the skull up there. It's a dead water buffalo?
Starting point is 01:54:03 Yeah. That's an Asiatic buffalo yeah that's an asiatic buffalo that's from my boy adam green tree shout out to adam green you shot that thing with a bow you shot that thing in africa no he shot in australia they've brought them to australia they're an invasive species and they literally have to shoot them they they they have so dangerous there's so many they call them the black death that right. There's so many of them in Australia. Why were they brought there? Some asshole.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Everything in Australia is brought there. Everything. Stags. Kangaroos. Red deer. No, not kangaroos. Koalas. And not saltwater crocodiles.
Starting point is 01:54:36 How weird is it that people that don't live in a certain country have sympathy for the animals that live in other countries, but those indigenous people, they fucking hate those animals. Because they're trying to farm. And they want to kill these motherfuckers. Try farming. You know what I mean? Yeah, grews are a problem.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Try raising lamb in lion territory or leopard territory. No, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. They're pests. But when you watch Discovery Channel or Nat Geo, it makes everyone like, oh, look, they're going extinct. Yeah, lion king. But meanwhile, yeah, oh, look, they're going extinct. But meanwhile, we got to stop the poachers.
Starting point is 01:55:10 But meanwhile, the locals are like, these motherfuckers ravage our shit. It's like mouthwash. How weird is that? That's weird. I was watching New Lion King with my kids, and I was like, where's their balls? I know. Where's his balls? There's no dick.
Starting point is 01:55:23 They're like, stop, daddy. I'm like, he doesn't have any balls. This doesn't make any sense. Watch when he turns around. That's a male lion, right? Yeah, they hit him. Where's his balls? You could show his fangs. You could show fights with hyenas.
Starting point is 01:55:33 You can't show lion nuts. Yeah. That's outrageous. Kids were watching, dude. No. Kids were watching. You gotta make it realistic, though. My kids are educated.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Balls. You can't have a big set of balls on a cartoon. They see my dog every day My dog has balls Your dog has some nuts Yeah I don't let him Your dog has some nuts on him You know what happens
Starting point is 01:55:51 When your dog Gets their balls removed Balls are sacred They no longer produce testosterone And they get tired all the time I've done it before with dogs Where they were one way And then they get fixed
Starting point is 01:56:02 Yeah it makes sense You should not let your dog Just breed and have Fucking puppies And shit and then they get fixed. Yeah, it makes sense. You should not let your dog just breed and have fucking puppies and shit where no one's taking care of your dog and the puppies and you're irresponsible. But Marshall's not fucking anybody. He's with me.
Starting point is 01:56:17 I know. He's fine. How old is Marshall? He's three. You know he has more followers than 99% of the world? He's a sweetie pie. He deserves them. He's a sweetie pie He deserves them He's a cutie
Starting point is 01:56:26 I love that dog so much Every time I come home You sleep with him? He just Oh no no My wife would never allow that shit But I hug him I just love him man
Starting point is 01:56:34 He's just the nicest dog ever Like every time I see him He just runs up to me He When you pet him He leans against you Like he can't get closer to you Does he shed a lot though?
Starting point is 01:56:43 Oh yeah like crazy Yeah I can't do it. Yeah, you can, though. Yeah, you know what? I used to be like that, too. When me and my wife moved in together, she brought an animal. She brought in two cats and a bunny, right? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:56:55 At first, I just didn't like the attitude. The cats didn't like me. I didn't like them. I didn't like the meowing. I fell in love with the bunny. meowing I fell in love with the bunny Remember when I was In love with the bunny Do you remember that shit
Starting point is 01:57:08 Yes Remember that era I remember he was telling me Oh I love this bunny so much I go bro Once you have a son You're gonna fucking Want to kick that bunny
Starting point is 01:57:14 Like a football No no He died The bunny died before my son From what It was boredom They just get old They just get old
Starting point is 01:57:21 You don't understand Don't fucking talk shit On bunnies You're like They don't talk shit. They shit everywhere. But it doesn't stink, and it's just dry. You just pick it up with your fingers. It's no big deal.
Starting point is 01:57:30 They're like little balls. They're little balls. You know what I like about dogs and cats? They're predators. They're more in tune with social, like the social dynamics. Whereas like prey animals, like horses and deer, they just sit around waiting for someone to eat them. They're cute as fuck, though.
Starting point is 01:57:47 They're cute, but they don't do shit. Dogs are pack animals. Exactly, but they're also predators. Cats kind of suck, though, dude. Predators have more complicated brains. They're thinking about things all the time.
Starting point is 01:57:57 They're considering how you feel about them, how they feel about you. Are we all in this together? Dogs, they just lick your hand. They're like, come on. Cats suck so much, dude. Cats are sociopaths. No not so much no no no that's not true that's not true because mike i ignored my cats forever
Starting point is 01:58:10 and they don't give a fuck no no no they don't but once you give them love yeah with the cat you know you know when you feed a straight cat it's gonna come back yeah once they learn once you give them love i finally started giving my cat love because her brother died. The rabbit died and her brother died. So now we have one cat, nurse. And I never gave her any love. And like a year ago, I started giving her love. I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:58:36 I just started petting her. And then real quick, every time I come home through the door, walk through the door, She starts meowing at me And wants to go to the couch She's like, take me to the couch Let's go cuddle together After all those years Yeah, now we're like cuddling And we got like this loving relationship I swear to God
Starting point is 01:58:55 As soon as I walk through the fucking door That cat goes She falls She goes, come on She goes, let's go to the couch She wants a free massage Yeah, that's all she wants No, what she wants She wants a free massage She's the cat. She wants a free massage. Yeah, that's all she wants. No, no, what she wants, she's got this disorder.
Starting point is 01:59:07 She has a disorder where as soon as she feels love, she starts sucking on her arm. It's a common thing for cats. So all she wants, she gets in the zone. As soon as you start petting her, she just goes. Like she's sucking at the teeth. Oh, dude, she just, she didn't, you know. What was that?
Starting point is 01:59:26 It sounds like what? He said it sounds like a stripper Exactly There's some daddy issues With your cat bro This cat wants nothing more Than to cuddle with me That's all this cat wants Is to cuddle with me
Starting point is 01:59:37 Hey have any of you guys Been in New Zealand? Yes I performed there Did you really? You did a stand up? Yeah What was it like? Fantastic
Starting point is 01:59:44 I heard it's amazing I did a theater there It was the most What was it like? Fantastic I heard it's amazing I did a theater there It was the most beautiful place I've ever seen I heard there's only 5 million people In the whole country It was so dope My buddy owns 5 private beaches
Starting point is 01:59:51 People told me If you want to fucking escape reality Move to New Zealand Yes It was so beautiful It was so beautiful What? Please Eddie
Starting point is 01:59:58 Oh wow Try to talk nice Let's go hunt Let's go hunt We were talking about We were talking about We loved to hunt My buddy owns
Starting point is 02:00:04 A peninsula Oh dude should we go A 21 hour flight And hunt On your buddy's beach That's the problem 15 Let's do a fight companion
Starting point is 02:00:13 Comedy show there In New Zealand Let's do it How about we take these We take these two Fucking boys hunting I think they'd be great No no no no no no no
Starting point is 02:00:21 You eat meat But I don't hunt Alright You couldn't do this They won't do it I'm not gonna kill no animal. You eat meat. But I don't hunt. All right? You couldn't do this? They won't do it. I'm not going to kill no animal. I don't want to see it.
Starting point is 02:00:31 I mean, I'll march around and shoot. I don't want to see it. What about a wild pig? Kill it. Like an ugly, cunty, wild pig. Skin it. You stay at the campfire. You prepare the pot and things. Yeah, make us vegetables.
Starting point is 02:00:41 If shit went down, I'd go to Joe's house. I'd go, you kill the motherfucker. I'll just make sure no one fucks with you. We've got to do another hunting thing. What's dangerous in New Zealand? It has to be something dangerous. I can't just hunt like- Rugby players.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Nothing dangerous. Big Samoans. Well, they have large stags. Their stags are enormous in New Zealand. Everything is an invasive species. Including the stags, right? Yeah, everything's invasive. The red stags.
Starting point is 02:01:04 There's a few animals that are indigenous. I don't even know if tar. I don't even think tar. You know what rhubars are? You know what rhubars are? It's like a plant. Rhubar. A rhubar.
Starting point is 02:01:13 A rhubar is a big-ass bumper in front of your car for kangaroos. Oh, kangaroos, yeah. Well, they have those in Iowa. Because when you see them, you're not supposed to stop. If you stop and try to swerve, you're going to get fucked up. You're supposed to go right through them. You got to go right through them. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 02:01:34 I didn't make this up. This is what they're telling me. Yeah, well, they taste good. And kangaroos, they're looked at as like rodents in Australia. They don't give a fuck about it. We love them in America, don't we? No, I know. We love them. No, don't we? No, I know. We love them.
Starting point is 02:01:46 No, totally. Have you ever seen these thousand kangaroo strong herds that are running across the field? When you realize what happens when you don't have any predators and you have these animals that just breed and their populations get unchecked to the point where they have to bring in snipers to thin the herd. Bro, there's videos of kangaroos running across these fields where you're looking at like thousands of yards. Let's see that.
Starting point is 02:02:12 A full, full. Is it on YouTube? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We played it multiple times. What's a predatory animal that eats? They have castors. No, in New Zealand, they used to have host eagles, which is an enormous eagle. They're like the biggest eagle ever.
Starting point is 02:02:24 They actually preyed on humans though And then people wiped them out Jesus Christ And they were huge What about cassowaries? Do they have cassowaries in New Zealand? That's a good question I don't know
Starting point is 02:02:33 The cassowaries, no joke They'll fuck you What is that? Can we hunt those? No, you don't want to fuck with cassowaries No, we can shoot it Vultures? They will kill you
Starting point is 02:02:40 They probably have something Like a vulture I need something dangerous to hump. Where do vultures hang out? What state? A lot of them in California. Are there? Really?
Starting point is 02:02:49 Turkey vultures? Yeah, a lot of turkey vultures out here. What does that mean? They're part turkey or they eat turkeys? They have a little turkey neck looking thing. Nasty looking neck. I've seen a bunch of them. Damn, Dan Hooker's a tall kid.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Dan Hooker is a beast, man. He's a fucking beast. He's out of style better than Jim, man. Super sport. Oh, him and fucking Volkanovski. That's an amazing Jim. Well, they're, I mean, Volkanovski's Australia, right? And those two guys are New Zealand.
Starting point is 02:03:14 These guys are beasts, man. Those are fucking monster. That's a really good argument for Jim of the year is City Kick Boxing. Oh, you'd have to give it to him. Who else you gonna give it to? Hard to beat. Who's City Kick I've never heard of them
Starting point is 02:03:26 Volkanovski Volkanovski New Zealand Yes Oh shit Okay They have Australia as well Australia for Volkanovski
Starting point is 02:03:34 It's an amazing gym How far is Australia From New Zealand It's right next door Close Right next door How far is the flight Two hours
Starting point is 02:03:41 One hour If that Yeah Cause I flew from Sydney Straight there Like flying to Denver? Yeah, it was easy. I've been there once.
Starting point is 02:03:46 Hamilton, New Zealand. It was so beautiful, man. I need to go. It was so beautiful. But if we go, Brian, we should go and do a comedy gig and go hunt some stags. Yes. Done. All right.
Starting point is 02:03:55 Can we do it? Your buddy has properties. He's got everything. Does he have stag? He's got so much money that in his place. I don't want to hear about your buddy. Yeah, I don't care about your rich friend. He goes, if you look that way and that way, that's all my property.
Starting point is 02:04:05 It's the same thing in New Zealand. We can hunt goat and stag. Yeah, that's fine. Hey, B, does he have a private jet? Yes, he does. And he will fly from here to there? Yes. All right, I'm in.
Starting point is 02:04:12 He has that. I'm in. And then you just want to do the comedy shows. And he keeps asking me. No, I'll go hunting with you guys. It's our boy. It's our boy, Joe General. I'd go for it.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Yeah, he's great. He's the best. I'd go for the experience for sure. I don't know if I could actually physically shoot the thing, but I like whatever. My favorite meat ever is the meat that I've killed myself. It's not even close. My favorite meat is Dan Hooker, ladies and gentlemen, making that walk. Big fight.
Starting point is 02:04:36 He seems rather tall or is he normal height? He's very long. No, he's a long, scrappy man. He's got a perfect build for fighting, man. Long limbs. And he's got these fucking bulging shoulders and giant biceps and shit. He's a freakish body. Perfect body for fighting.
Starting point is 02:04:53 Some say freakish. Some say nice. Well, you could say that. I like this guy, though. Me too. I like him, but the problem is I'm friends with Felder. So if I appear biased... That's one of the things I love about Fight Companions
Starting point is 02:05:05 That's how I am dude Super biased towards your guys Yeah it's hard It's hard not to be But that's the other problem with my other gig As a UFC commentator You know I just I can't be that biased
Starting point is 02:05:17 Oh here Here we go Look at that screen Look at all these fucking Look at all these goddamn kangaroos Will they attack? If you stop They'll fuck you up
Starting point is 02:05:24 If you stand next to them They'll box you the fuck up That's a lot of fucking kangaroos They If you stop, they'll fuck you up if you stand next to them. They'll box you the fuck up. That's a lot of fucking kangaroos. They'll kick you with their rear feet. How crazy is it that they know how to rear naked choke? That's the craziest shit ever. Hey, see if there are any catch stories in New Zealand. Those things are gnarly, right, B?
Starting point is 02:05:36 It sounds like it's supposed to be from New Zealand. They're the most dangerous bird in the world. Let's fly down there and hunt them. In New Zealand, and he's making the walk first. I wonder how the... Is he ranked higher? Why? Is that what they're doing?
Starting point is 02:05:52 He can't be higher. He's walking first. Felder's more famous. No, no. Felder's probably ranked lower, is what I'm saying. Felder's ranked lower. Here's the thing. They're in New Zealand.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Dan Hooker's from New Zealand. Neither guy's a champion. Why isn't Dan Hooker coming out? Hooker's definitely more of a well-known name in New Zealand than Pell Fowler. Oh, my God, yeah. Maybe, yeah. In America, there's not doing anything. It's kind of weird.
Starting point is 02:06:14 I feel it's weird that Hooker's coming out first. That is strange. Think about the winner of this. Big fight on their hands. You need a big boy fight. Who is that? Gaethje Poirier. There's so many fighters in that division, man.
Starting point is 02:06:25 That division is almost overrun. I firmly believe the UFC needs more divisions. Firmly. No. I like it. No. Firmly. I like 165, but that's it.
Starting point is 02:06:35 Every 10 pounds. Every 10 pounds. Every 10 pounds. No, then you get like boxing. It's too hard to keep up with. No. Boxing is like every four pounds. No, boxing's...
Starting point is 02:06:42 And then four different fucking organizations. Who is Hooker? Who is the biggest guy he beat? Hmm. Hooker's had some big wins, man. Name one. Let's pull up his resume. Pull it shit up, Jamie.
Starting point is 02:06:54 Well, his last fight... Who the fuck did he stop in his last fight? Let's see. Ally Quinta, James Vick. Oh, shit. He lost to Barbarossa. Yeah, lost to Barbarossa. Jim Miller. Gilbert Burns. Ross Pearson. Oh, yeah. He lost to Barbosa. Yeah, lost to Barbosa. Jim Miller.
Starting point is 02:07:05 Ross Pearson. Oh, yeah. He got a lot of big wins. Gilbert Burns is a big win. Jim Miller, big win. Yaya Rodriguez lost by decision. Wow, he lost to Jason Knight. Wow, interesting.
Starting point is 02:07:15 Interesting. What year was that, Jamie? The Jason Knight one. But lately, he's been on it. 2016, he lost to Jason Knight. Interesting. Four years ago. He lost to Yair Rodriguez
Starting point is 02:07:26 Ah interesting But you know what Over the last few years though He's been on fire Yeah 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 He's 6 out of his last 7 dude And Mark DiCasey's a beast too Yeah he KO'd Jim Miller
Starting point is 02:07:39 KO'd Gilbert Burns Lost to Barboza Whatever shit happens Starched James Vick Then beat Al Iaquinta That's a tough go He decided to stand kick for kick Austin Barboza, whatever shit happens, starts James Vick, then beat Al Iaquinta. That's a tough go. He decided to stand kick for kick with Barboza. Sometimes guys are too tough for their own good.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Look at Felder. Look at Felder's face. He's an animal, man. Yeah, he looks like an animal, man. He's an animal. Felder's fired up for this fight, man. I mean, I did commentary with him. He was real edgy.
Starting point is 02:08:03 I was like, dude, you're so edgy. He was laughing. He's like, man, I can't wait to fight this him. He was like real edgy. I was like, dude, you're so edgy. And he was laughing. He's like, man, I can't wait to fight this motherfucker. He was talking about it. He's like, he's never been more pumped up for a fight. Interesting. He's never been more angry for a fight. He's so rough.
Starting point is 02:08:15 He's like, this guy's a fucking animal. And he goes, it brings it out in me. He goes, I know he's dangerous. And he goes, I can't wait to go out there and fucking smash him. He was, like, because we were doing commentary, shit, a month ago, right? How many weeks ago it was, whatever it was. And he was so amped up. Like, it's not, you think that it's like they train and then they get in there in a big fight and then here they are.
Starting point is 02:08:38 Now they're edgy. No, he's edgy weeks out, months out. Is he a prickly one? No, he's a great guy. Yeah, he's a good dude, right? He's remarkably calm and sweet. He's a great guys out Months out Is he a prickly one? No he's a great guy Yeah he's a good dude right He's remarkably calm and sweet He's a great guy Smart guy
Starting point is 02:08:49 To this day UFC isn't like Kind of weird About you doing Fight companions I can't hear this What? UFC still isn't
Starting point is 02:08:57 Kind of weird About you doing Fight companions They love it They love it They love it Dana asked me to do it For a Tuesday night
Starting point is 02:09:03 Contender series He's like you should do it For a Tuesday night Contender series Oh shit I'm, you should do it for a Tuesday night contender series. Oh, shit. I'm like, listen, if we have a night off, man, I'm down. The problem is Tuesday night at the store is one of the hottest fucking nights of the year. It's the best night. Tuesday night is amazing.
Starting point is 02:09:15 It's the best night of comedy. Yeah, it's fucking incredible because everybody's home. How weird is that? It's like Tuesday night. It's crazy. We are in paradise. When it comes to stand-up comedy, we are in fucking paradise. There's no other club in the world
Starting point is 02:09:25 Like that right No There's nothing Nobody doing that right People talk about the cellar The cellar's popping The cellar's fine It's so small
Starting point is 02:09:32 It's not like the store It's small It's not even close The comedy store's got three rooms Well not only that The cellar has good comics The comedy store is loaded Every night with murderers
Starting point is 02:09:43 Yeah Every night Every night It Every night. It's a savage fest. Here we go. I mean, the other night, I was on a lot with Sarah Silverman. I mean, I think Jelzlmec. It was Joey Diaz.
Starting point is 02:09:55 It was ridiculous. You're on with the best comics ever, and it makes all of our levels come up. Because you see these people on Before You Murder, and you can't be half-assed. Paul Felder about to make shit happen. Joey Diaz was telling me the other day that he's not, he goes, I'm not doing anything but the Comedy Store. I mean, that's the best place. He still does the improv. He did the improv maybe a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 02:10:18 Yeah, yeah, but I don't want to throw anybody under the bus, but he was talking about certain clubs, like in the Valley and stuff. He goes, I'm not doing those anymore. The Comedy Store, that's where... He said that's why he thought he messed up with his special by not going at the Comedy Store against the best of the best. He said he was going around everywhere. So just folks on the store. I think he thinks that,
Starting point is 02:10:39 but I think the reality is he just needed to do more specials. The problem is when you haven't really done a special, then all of a sudden you're doing a special 30 years in a comedy. It's got so much weight attached to it. And I've been telling him forever he should be doing specials. I've been doing specials forever. When you do specials forever, I do a special every two years. Every two years, I go, here we go again.
Starting point is 02:10:59 I'm doing it again. I'm doing it again. And the last one in particular, when I went on stage, it felt like a show. It was like one of the only times I've ever done a special where I walked on stage. It also was in Boston, which is my hometown. But when I walked on stage, it felt like a regular show. It's because I do them all the time. I do them all the time.
Starting point is 02:11:16 So if you watch that special and you say, I liked it. That was funny. That's a show. It was as close to a regular show as you can get. A lot of times, it's not. A lot of times, I liked it. That was funny. That's a show. It was as close to a regular show as you can get. A lot of times it's not. A lot of times it's tension. It's tight. You don't feel loose.
Starting point is 02:11:31 You don't feel loose. You don't feel like a show. Another thing that I did was different was the last couple shows, San Francisco, which was my best one up to date, and then this last one, which is I think even better than that. I did both of those where i did four shows so i filmed four four shows yeah that's great so that's unheard of by the way i only mostly used the second show friday night but they were all great it was just
Starting point is 02:11:58 a matter of like but the thing is you feel loose because you know you have four shows i remember tony hinchcliffe text me after your first one like, he could stop now and he'd be fine. The first one was great. That's what he said. And then the second one was even more epic, but I was a little loaded. Yeah, he said your first one, he goes, oh, you could stop now. Once I knew I had it in the tank, I smoked like four fucking joints. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:12:18 We got barbecued. I was like, should I get high in between shows? I'm like, let's get barbecued. I got barbecued because I was like, we already got it. And then I was just, I was ranting. I was making shit up. Who's opened up for you with Chappelle? Do you still have Santino?
Starting point is 02:12:33 Hinchcliffe. Hinchcliffe does. And then in Vancouver, it's Santino and Hinchcliffe. Santino's so fucking funny. He's an animal. He's my favorite. Santino and Hinchcliffe, that's an animal show. How about Santino and Bobby
Starting point is 02:12:45 Have a podcast together I know Good for them I know I'm excited And Bobby was talking to me about it He's like Why have I waited so long
Starting point is 02:12:52 I was like Why have you waited so long Here we go baby Here we go baby This is gonna be a scrap Jesus Christ It's gonna be a wild fight man Rough
Starting point is 02:13:00 It's gonna be a wild fucking fight Felder's a half Oh Felder's a Felder's a hell. Oh! Felder's a half. Felder went to put his gloves up, and Hooker said no. Brian's not familiar with Hooker. You think your boy Felder's going to roll through him, huh? No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:13:13 You want to bet on this, you fuck? I didn't say that. How much do you want to bet? What do you want to do? But I'm going with Felder because Felder is very scrappy. Well, no, because he's a theater major. Let's be real. And he's a theater major.
Starting point is 02:13:25 You've got to go with a theater major. He's dramatic, because he's a theater major. Let's be real. And he's a theater major. You've got to go with a theater major. He's dramatic, and he's pissed. Here we go. Brian, give me your assessment. Who's going to win this fight? You think Felder? I'm going to just go with Felder because he always, always is in the fight,
Starting point is 02:13:39 and he's always this tough. You also don't know who Hooker is. Let's just be honest. Brandon Schaum, what do you got? I'll take Hooker via decision. Classic fight, though. Fight of the night. Decision.
Starting point is 02:13:47 Hooker's already throwing that low calf kick. He likes that as much as anybody. He's a giant fan of that low calf kick. Here we go. Interesting. Interesting. Set up. Oh!
Starting point is 02:14:02 Oh, he put it right in his knee. He already got him. No, no. you know what it is His low His calf is already fucked up He's hit like four or five Low calf kicks Hooker has
Starting point is 02:14:11 Four already Yeah Oh He threw a bunch of them Really right off the bat If they're fighting like this They ain't doing the decision These boys are
Starting point is 02:14:19 Yeah Cocked up Hooker is the master Of that low calf kick By cocked up do you mean You know what I exactly mean. He means ready to rock. Boys night out college shit.
Starting point is 02:14:30 We're straight, but we're just fucking around tonight. There he is, another one. Those low calf kicks are so gross. They've got to be a motherfucker. They suck. I'll kick you there. You want to feel it? You can see him setting it up. He keeps hitting it, too. He hit it again.
Starting point is 02:14:45 And Felder's not even checking it. Felder's trying to get the timing down, but he's just not there yet. The problem is, even though you look normal, your leg is weird. Oh, shit. Don't sleep on Felder, you fucks. Felder popped him with that left hook. Don't sleep on Felder. Felder's a fucking tanker.
Starting point is 02:15:00 He is, man. You know the thing about Felder? He's really big for that division. He's thick, boy. He was walking around 190 pounds. Yep, and guess what? When he drops down to 55, he just let Hooker. I think that's why Felder walked out last, because he's ranked one ahead of Hooker.
Starting point is 02:15:15 He's six and Hooker's seven. Well, it's probably like a psychological thing. Oh, he checked that one. Ooh, they gave him a little jab in the face. A little touch in the face. Not a big deal. He's been there before. When you look at Hooker's body,'s so weird he's got like big ass fucking
Starting point is 02:15:27 shoulders and big ass biceps it's almost like they're they're tommy hearns kind of stuff yeah it's like they're from a they're from a guy whose body is big oh that left left hookers hands are down that's what i'm talking about that's how he fights it is's how he fights. It is, but with Felder keeps targeting that left hook. That left hook was just a hair off. And Felder beat Barboza. Hooker got stopped by Barboza. I hate MMA math, but there's something to that. And now with Felder pressing this. You got fucking Schaub all over Hooker's dick.
Starting point is 02:15:58 So that's hard to fight when you got Schaub. I like Felder. When you got a 260 pound man on your dick. It's hard to fight. Don't get it twisted. I like Felder. I just hate how you don't know who Hooker is. You've been on the Hooker train from day fucking one, dude.
Starting point is 02:16:09 You love Hookers? I love Kiwis. Yeah, you do. Why don't you marry them? I love burning Brendan. I love burning him. I don't think you burned him. I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 02:16:17 I'm pretty good at burns. Boy, Hooker is so fucking aggressive with that low calf kick. It's crazy. That'll chop a tree down, guys. What? I called the tree. Now we got Felder. He stopped.
Starting point is 02:16:29 Oh, shit. That hook's there. That hook. It's trouble, man. He's landed two really hard hooks in this round. Yeah, Hooker could be in a little bit of trouble, man. Well, the fact that Hooker's been stopped by Barboza and got beaten down in that fight and eventually just crumbled.
Starting point is 02:16:44 That was an amazing fight, dude. I guarantee you Felder knows that. And Felder knows that he went toe-to-toe with Barboza, and he's got that in the back of his head. Look, he's also won six times less seven. Well, Felder's won five in a row. Felder's striking is outstanding. Felder's fucking smart, man.
Starting point is 02:17:02 And he's been training with Duke Rufus as arguably top two or three best striking coaches on planet Earth. I mean, Duke Rufus is a fucking machine. Mm-hmm. Yep. Oh, switching stances. Oh, low kick. Oh, look at this. Oh, they kind of fucked him up.
Starting point is 02:17:18 Oh, man. Knees. Felder just seems a lot more sturdy, doesn't he? Mm-hmm. He's strong as fuck, bro. He's a big fella. When he's walking around in between fights, like how the fuck do you ever make 155?
Starting point is 02:17:33 Very interesting. Look at this. 180, I think. Dan Hooker. Dan Hooker's just got crazy biceps. Like biceps and shoulders that don't belong in his body. He's probably strong. He's probably chimp strong.
Starting point is 02:17:44 Well, chimp strong and ridiculous power. Yeah. Yeah, separate, boys. Oh, calf kick again. That left hook, though, dude. Yeah, it's there. It's there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:54 And if you're a hooker fan, you should be worried. If you're a hooker, you got to watch out for the hook. I'm telling you, the fact that Felder knows that Barboza stopped Hooker, but that Felder beat Barboza in the rematch, and he went toe-to-toe with him in the first fight as well. Yeah, he did. By the way, Felder likes a fucking fisticuff. He likes to get into it. And he's getting after him now, man.
Starting point is 02:18:23 Yeah, he's really pressing this fight. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. He likes to get into it And he's getting after him now Yeah he's really He's pressing this fight Oh shit Oh shit Wow What a round I give that round to Felder Felder's so fucking Yeah
Starting point is 02:18:33 I give that round to Felder Yeah I mean Aggressor The big moments For Dan Hooker Were the low kicks Especially the low calf kick
Starting point is 02:18:41 But that's not enough Do they get scored? Felder pressed the fight Felder controlled the center Of the octagon more often Do they get the score? Do they get scored? Felder pressed the fight. Felder controlled the center of the octagon more often. Do they get the score? Do they score? No.
Starting point is 02:18:47 Not as much. Not as much. Not enough. Not enough. The problem is- Hooker definitely lost that round. Even though it's in New Zealand, Felder's going forward. Felder's throwing more hands.
Starting point is 02:18:56 They don't count really kicks. Are you divorced? I can't fuck. I can't the fuck up. I can't drive, Baba. I tried that. I had to have Brennan pick me up. Give it to Shop. No, I can't. I got to put my kid to bed. I can't drive, Bubba. I tried that. I had to have Brennan pick me up. Give it to Shop.
Starting point is 02:19:05 No, I can't. I've got to put my kid to bed. I can't be high. Oh, shit. Felder's got a swollen eye, guys. Oh, damn it. Felder's right eye is swollen. That's a problem.
Starting point is 02:19:14 What happened? I don't know. He got kicked. He did jab the piss out of him. I know, but that's quick to have it swell up. Boop. Oh, that low kick. That's what it was.
Starting point is 02:19:23 See that low kick? His knee looked terrible there. Boop. There's the jab that low kick. That's what it was. See that low kick? His knee looked terrible there. Boom. There's the jab. Low kick. Jabby. God. Boom.
Starting point is 02:19:31 Hooker's so long. He's so long. Boom. There's that left hook. Almost missed it, though. Ooh, that right eye. That right eye. That right eye swollen real bad.
Starting point is 02:19:43 That right eye looks like it's closed. God, Felder's such a dog. He's such a dog, but that is not good at all. That's a giant distraction, that right eye is closed up. And it's only the second round. Yep. And this is a five-round fight. Let's see if Felder winds up.
Starting point is 02:19:59 But here's the thing about those kind of swollen eyes. If they have a good corner man, they always do, and they have end swell, they can push that shit aside. Yeah, they can move it a little bit. It's just if it opens up is when you're in trouble. Right, right, right. Let's see what Felder can do in this round. Boy, there's really no speed advance.
Starting point is 02:20:17 They're both pretty dialed in. I'd say Felder's faster. I don't think so. I don't know about that. I think you're just texting this entire second round and then you just jumped on. This is a really well-matched fight. Six or seven.
Starting point is 02:20:31 Especially when Felder understands how significant it is, as does Hooker. Dude, the winner of this gets a huge fight against a big name man. Yeah, well, Gaethje's waiting in the wings, right? Nobody wants to fuck with him and he's the scariest guy in the division outside of Khabib. Well, Corn to Dana, Gagey turned out a bunch of fights. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:47 Just waiting for- But is that Gagey or is that Ali? You know, it might be Ali. I bet it's a combination of both. Yeah. Who's Gagey waiting for? Well, he wants the title. Connor or Tony.
Starting point is 02:20:57 He wants the title. He wants a big boy. Nobody's calling out Tony. Nobody calls out Tony. Nobody calls out Tony. Nobody's calling out Tony. No one ever has. No, that's so funny. Nobody's calling out Tony. Nobody calls out Tony. Nobody calls out Tony. Nobody's calling out Tony. No one ever has. That's so funny.
Starting point is 02:21:07 Nobody's calling out Tony. Khabib's fighting him because he's just in line. When is that Khabib fight? Calling out Tony. Don't make us recap it. Think about it. Who in the lightweight division has called out Tony? Nobody ever.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Nobody ever. No one's got the mic on. I want Tony Ferguson next. Never. Where's Tony at? Where's Kukui? Tony, where you at. Never. Nobody ever. No one's got the mic on. I want Tony Ferguson next. No way. Never. Where's Tony at? Where's Kukui? Tony, where you at?
Starting point is 02:21:29 Never. Never. No. They just pretend he doesn't exist. Yeah, they just jump over him. It's April 18th, Brian. Man, Hooker hits that leg and then just, as soon as he's off balance, boom, throws his hand.
Starting point is 02:21:41 He's throwing that low calf kick so much. Oh, look at this, though. Oh, shit. Look at this, though. You gonna jump on him? Ooh, kang so much. Oh, look at this, though. You going to jump on him? Ooh, kangaroo style. Oh, shit. This is going to be hard to do. Dude, all he needs is that right hook in, that right leg in, and he's got the seat belt in.
Starting point is 02:21:57 Is he going to jump to it? You know what? He could pull him back into the truck if he knew that game. That's a lot of time. If he took his right ankle and went behind Felder's left ankle, that would collapse him. But you have to be really confident with your truck game. Felder's strong as fuck, man. This is a hard game to implement.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Look at Felder's legs. Dude, Hooker's right foot. That's the one that's based. The left one is around his right knee, right? If that right foot hooks Felder's left ankle, dude, and that'll collapse him. Isn't that what Krohn did to his- Krohn. You've got to be comfortable with the truck game.
Starting point is 02:22:30 If you're not, you're not going to do it. It feels awkward. I saw him. But, man, he's got it right here. And he could just go from the truck to the back anyways. He could use- Oh, man. That right ankle.
Starting point is 02:22:41 Here's the thing. He's winning the round doing this. Yeah, just hanging on. Oh, you let it go. Because it's over. It's over. You let it go. They're ankle. Here's the thing. He's winning the round doing this. Yeah, just hanging on. Oh, you let it go. Because it's over. It's over. You let it go. They're free.
Starting point is 02:22:47 Well, that was just a moment, and there's no damage done. I don't know if that's silly. Felder's eye is closing. It depends on how this last two minutes go. You know how judges are, man. Yeah, especially when you're an idiot. Damn, Hooker hit that low kick again. He's able to get that without getting punched in the face.
Starting point is 02:23:03 Well, he's throwing it so sweet. I like the way Felder pulls up his shorts. Dive into a double when he does that. Just dive into a fucking double. Hooker just hit him with a nice left hook, and Felder's not seeing it very well because of that left side. Oh, body shot. Because his right eye's so swollen,
Starting point is 02:23:21 that left side of Hooker is a dangerous weapon. Brian, if you're watching this fight with stallone like you usually watch your fights what's that sound like does stallone ask you questions no they all get they all get tips what should he do here no there's all tips back when you were fighting overseas i usually have sugar ray there too so Why didn't he just take him down? I was in there with Apollo I threw the left and the left Why didn't he just take him down? Felder hurt Dan Hooker
Starting point is 02:23:51 With that one low kick That one low kick that he just threw Dan Hooker did not like it He did not like it It's getting gnarly now Felder's face is beat up The real issue is that one eye, that right eye. It's really swollen.
Starting point is 02:24:08 His nose ain't helping. No, nothing's helping, but his nose is a mess anyway. Yeah. Like, his nose is a mess coming into this fight. He's not worried about that. Damn. I'll tell you, Dan Hooker's got some nasty knees, man. Dan Hooker's...
Starting point is 02:24:22 Oh! Went for the spin, son. Oh, left hook! He clipped him. Well, a little bit of a stumble of legs together too but. Oh shit. Yeah! Felder's such a fucking animal.
Starting point is 02:24:34 Look at these fucking animals. Oh! Felder hurt him! He hurt him with that spinning back fist. Yeah, he did. That's what the fuck we want. I think he hit him with the elbow on that spin. He wob he did. That's what the fuck we want. I think he hit him with the elbow on that spin. He did. He wobbled him. He did. Oh!
Starting point is 02:24:47 Oh! Damn, look at him staring down. It's getting crazy. Look at him fucking stare him down. Fuck around, you fucks. We got three more fucking rounds. These guys are so good, man. We got 30 seconds.
Starting point is 02:24:59 Man, I feel like it's rough house fucking Saturday, huh? Such a good fight. It's so evenly matched. It's so back and forth. Dan Hooker is so good, and so is Felder. And Felder's such a fucking aggressive guy. Who do you give that second round to?
Starting point is 02:25:12 Felder. No. Gotta do it. It depends. There's only two choices. And he said one choice, and he said no. Why are you asking the question? There was only two answers.
Starting point is 02:25:23 What do you think? He goes, no. He asked the question. It's close two answers. What did you give it to you? It's close. The first half, Hooker had the position on the back, controlled the off-gun. That spinning elbow and the punches by Felder and the fact that Felder was chasing him down.
Starting point is 02:25:36 I give it to Felder in that situation because of damage. I like the fact that Hooker had his back but he really didn't do any damage. He held a position for a good 30 seconds or so. Longer than that. Maybe longer, right? But the reality is when it comes to actual damage and big shots landed,
Starting point is 02:25:55 there's an edge to Felder. And then also Felder pushing. Look at his face. You have a 2-0 Felder. Oh, man, I'd have to look at it objectively. The problem is when your face is beat up, the judges sometimes... Hey, man, we're in New Zealand. These judges might never give it to Felder.
Starting point is 02:26:08 It can't be any worse than New York or wherever the fuck scored... Houston. Yeah, Houston. Houston was bad. Dude, there's going to be some bitches out there saying, I fucking hate fight companion. All they talk about is hookers. That was not good, huh? No.
Starting point is 02:26:22 That was not good. I'm sorry. You try. I tried. I just smoked weed. I just smoked weed. I just smoked weed. You swing, you miss. You can't hit everyone.
Starting point is 02:26:29 You swing sometimes. You miss. You guys keep saying hooker over and over. Hooker, hooker, hooker, hooker. Felder is pushing the pace on hooker, which is very rare. He's going after hooker, but not tactically like Barbozaza but like super aggressively like in your face really aggressive yeah nice jab dude he's catching him man yeah oh man this is a real fight this is a real fight yeah real dangerous fight felder's mind is so fucking strong one of the things about him
Starting point is 02:26:58 that's so interesting is he's such a smart articulate guy he's a great commentator but behind that there's that inferno. I know. You know, there's something going on inside that guy's head. Yeah. Whatever's going on in his head, it's dark, man. Nice uppercut there. Dude.
Starting point is 02:27:14 He clipped Hooker with that uppercut. Now Hooker's trying to get it back. See him get, like, ramping up? He's trying to get back that uppercut. Ooh, that left hook is dangerous, and Hooker's not picking his fucking right hand up. His hands are super low a lot of the time. A lot of the time.
Starting point is 02:27:31 He's got those long arms. He does. He's being a pest. It's volume, but Felder makes you pay. He's trying to set stuff up, and so is Felder, but neither guy's got a range. Felder makes you pay, man. Felder lands. Ooh, that neither guy's got a range. Felder makes you pay, man. Felder lands.
Starting point is 02:27:45 Oh, that jab. God, that jab. When Felder lands, it's not doing much damage on Hooker's face, but fuck, man, when he lands, he's making him pay. Dude, Felder's doing more damage than this round. A hundred percent. Oh, look at this. He's also throwing for the fucking bleachers.
Starting point is 02:28:02 He's trying to knock his face off. Yeah, he's trying to knock his face off. Anytime Hooker makes a mistake, if Hooker leaves himself in the pocket and he knows Felder's coming back with missiles, that jab is so nice. Felder lands that left hook. Now this one's over. Good right hand by Felder.
Starting point is 02:28:16 That's a good exchange for Hooker, too. Oh, it's not bad. He landed a right hand in that exchange. Hooker just doesn't have the power, does he? The same power. But not the same power as Felder. But he's waiting to set it up. The problem is his power is being stifled by the fact that Felder is so aggressive and threatening.
Starting point is 02:28:33 He makes you think. He looks like he's taking less damage, Hooker. Yes. Well, who knows? Which is weird, though, because Felder might just have a lot of scar tissue on his face, but Felder's landing the bigger shot, the power shot. He's got runner skins. Sometimes it's one or two shots.
Starting point is 02:28:47 One or two shots can do something weird to your nose or weird to your eye, and it doesn't necessarily have to be the hardest. It just hits you perfect. Felder's hitting that. Let's be honest, too. Felder's out of it. Hooker's catching him.
Starting point is 02:28:58 That's a nice left by Felder. Ooh, look at that. There's changes. I don't know. It looks super even to me. It looks like they're both on there. Oh, left hand by Hooker. Beautiful left hand by Hooker.
Starting point is 02:29:09 That one went straight down the pipe. They're about to start swinging here soon. Oh, my God. This is a crazy fight. Oh, Jesus. Hooker lit him up coming in. Hooker gave him that two-piece. Well, I think also Felder's having a hard time seeing.
Starting point is 02:29:20 Like QE2. He can't see out of that right eye, kids. There's a lot of blood on Felder's face. Yeah. Oh, that nice jab by Hooker. Look at that. I just see a red mess. Oh, see, and he pulled back out of that kick.
Starting point is 02:29:31 Oh. He's lighting that nose up. Hooker's got that jab timed in. God, Felder loves this shit, man. When he's bloody and shit like this, he loves it. Oh, nice low kick. Boom, boom. Oh, right hand by Felder.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Oh, my goodness. But two pieces by Hooker, and then he's out. Oh. Oh, nice low kick. Boom, boom, boom. Oh, right hand by Felder. Oh, my goodness. But two pieces by Hooker, and then he's out. Oh, shit. Felder caught him a little bit with that left hand there as he was charging in. This is wild. This is a high-stakes fucking game here, kids. Oh, you knew this one was going to be good. You knew this one.
Starting point is 02:30:00 Yeah, how happy are you that it's five rounds, right? Oh, yes. Three of them. Exactly. Two more rounds after this. Yeah, how happy are you that it's five rounds, right? Yes. Three of them. Exactly. Two more rounds after this. Oh, back kick. Oh, shit. That's got to hurt.
Starting point is 02:30:13 See, whoever wins these next 40 seconds can steal this round. 100%. Oh, left hand by Hooker. And then he got out. Hooker's got this round. Clean left hand. Well, that reach advantage comes in all right hand. Let's see what happens here, though.
Starting point is 02:30:25 So far, Hooker has this round. Yeah, I would agree. Hooker's face looks fine. Feller shooting for a takedown. Interesting, but Hooker turns him around. Yep. Hooker fucking executing. Hooker's strong with his under.
Starting point is 02:30:39 Yeah, showing his strength. Showing his physical strength, too. So you'd probably have it, you know, I've drank a lot of whiskey. Two to one. And I've talked a lot of shit to Brian. I'd probably say. Two to one. Two to one.
Starting point is 02:30:52 Yeah. Felder's going in two to one. But I would say this round is pretty clean for Hooker. Wait a minute. You got Felder two one? Yeah, Felder up two one. Really? Hooker won this round, but he lost the first two.
Starting point is 02:31:01 I don't know about that. Dude, we're all. So close. I mean, I love Felder. We're all so close. I love Felder. He's bleeding everywhere. Look at this job. 2-1 to Hooker.
Starting point is 02:31:14 I can see that too, Eddie. Felder's fucking cut up. I can see that too, Eddie. It could be 2-1. Who knows how they scored that one round where Hooker had his back. Good on us, Jeff. They're in New Zealand. they're in New Zealand. And they're in New Zealand. They're in New Zealand.
Starting point is 02:31:27 At least they're not in Houston. Sorry, Houston. A lot of good. Sorry, everybody who lives in Houston. Except for that one ref. I love Houston. He can suck a dick, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:34 He should shut down his MMA gym. Did you see the Jonathan Martinez-Andre Ewell fight? That was the worst robbery of the night. It was on Fight Pass. Oh, no. I don't have Fight Pass. We were 100% convinced Martinez won the fight. He dominated the second and third rounds.
Starting point is 02:31:47 Yule probably broke his arm. He had something real wrong with his arm, his right hand. And afterwards they gave it to Yule and I looked over at Dominic Cruz and his jaw dropped. When they judge a score... What? Do they give that card to a neutral party?
Starting point is 02:32:05 I'm not sure. It must be someone who's working inside the commission. Because in boxing, when you judge the first round, in boxing, you judge. The first round they do, I think, yeah. No, when you judge the first round, you give it to somebody, right? Yes.
Starting point is 02:32:13 I think that's how they do it. Do they not do that in New York? I'm sure they do. This is 55. It's the same commission. Yeah, 55. Holy shit, these guys' arms are jacked. They're not really 55.
Starting point is 02:32:22 Felder's 190 pounds. And so is Hooker. Hooker's huge. Hooker used to pounds. And so is Hooker. Hooker's huge. Hooker used to fight 45, which is just crazy. Oh, elbow by Felder. Oh, that's hooked by Felder. That snapped his head back. Oh, Felder is swinging.
Starting point is 02:32:35 Look at Felder. Oh, Jesus. He's so crazy. He's trying to get him out of there. Felder is a fucking savage. He's trying to get him out of there. Oh, Jesus Christ, this is sick Oh my goodness Come on, Paul What the fuck, Paul
Starting point is 02:32:50 Paul's a fucking monster Hooker's starting to get a little bruised up too What a fucking stud Felder is just so Undeniably savage He's so game He's so game He's all in Oh He's so game. He's so game. He's so game.
Starting point is 02:33:05 He's all in. He's all in. Oh, right hand by Felder. Jesus Christ. Oh, he's starting to take over a little bit, dude. Yeah, he is. Well, he's risking it. He's doing what you gotta do.
Starting point is 02:33:14 You gotta do it. He's throwing himself into the fire. Oh, right hand left hook. Jesus Christ. Felder. Felder. If I'm Felder, I like the exchange. Let's play the game.
Starting point is 02:33:23 Let's see who goes out. Well, he's forcing himself. Oh who goes out. He's forcing himself. Oh, left hand! He's forcing himself on Hooker. A couple of good chances. Right hand! He hurt him! Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:33:32 Now Hooker's starting to show it. Felder's showing. Oh, but those low kicks by Hooker. Money in the bank. I like it. Doesn't matter. Oh! Oh, he stumbled!
Starting point is 02:33:42 That hurt him. Oh, my goodness. That hurt him. Felder! Felder feeling it! Feeling it! Oh, he's coming. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.! That hurt him. Oh, my goodness. That hurt him. Felder! Felder feeling it! Feeling it! Oh, he's coming. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Hands warm, too. Staying calm. Felder staying calm. Keeping that pressure on. Now you see Hooker's face. He's going to light him up.
Starting point is 02:33:54 Looking to explode. He's going to light him. Oh, look at this! Hooker for the fucking takedown attempt. No, not Felder. Not with Felder. Did he wrestle? Your wrestling's no good here.
Starting point is 02:34:03 I don't think either one of them Have a wrestling background No Felder's just such an athlete man He's just fucking His striking is amazing He's also very intelligent He does what he has to do To be prepared
Starting point is 02:34:14 He's not going to go into a fight With holes in his game No You know there's guys That go into a fight Hoping they don't get taken down Felder's not that guy He just seems like
Starting point is 02:34:23 He works on what he's bad at Every day in practice. And he's turning Hooker around. Oh! Elbow on the break! He's a sober fella. Has Felder ever fought a high-level wrestler that kept taking him down that he couldn't stop the takedowns?
Starting point is 02:34:37 That's a good question. Oh, look at this. Hooker's got his back again. I don't like this. He's controlling us. He's fine right here. It all depends on how good his this. He's controlling us. He's fine right here. It all depends on how good his jiu-jitsu is. He's working that hand. If this was Khabib, Khabib's fans would be happy as fuck.
Starting point is 02:34:55 Yeah, he's going to take him down. He's going to ride him and take him down. This is his shit. He got him on the fence. He's going to drag him down. Watch. He does this every fucking fight. But Felton can't stay here for too long just for judges' perceptions.
Starting point is 02:35:06 Okay, now he's turned around. Felder's winning. You got to remember. Yeah, but he's got to be careful. We're in New Zealand. Here we go. We're in New Zealand. Yeah, but in a position like that against the fence, if the ref broke him up and brought
Starting point is 02:35:18 him back to the center, nobody would give a shit. Oh! Right hand by Felder. But if it was Khabib, they would never do that right right they would never do that like they would never take khabib off the fucking fence i hate when referees break up fights on the fence and i hate when they break them up on the ground i know people disagree with that and they think it'll make the fight boring i say i don't care oh right hand by felder i tell you what hooker can take a punch he can take around put him down man punch he can take it
Starting point is 02:35:44 hooker could take it and but he's also realizing to put him down, man. He can take it. Hooker can take it. But he's also realizing he's in New Zealand. But now things are getting emotional because Felder's putting the heat on him. Felder's putting that aggressive heat on him. This isn't just like he's catching him with shit. He's pressing him, and he's getting in his face. And he's making it real. Oh, left hand.
Starting point is 02:36:03 He's making it real dangerous. He hasn't lost a stitch of speed in this third round well he's again he's a guy that's not going to come into a fight unprepared right hand
Starting point is 02:36:13 Felder with a jab oh god that jab is beautiful that jab is the biggest any fucking boxing jab I've ever seen Hooker don't want none of it Hooker wants to go to the ground he's trying to take him down
Starting point is 02:36:22 this is not good he's not trying to take him this is not good oh big elbow trying to take him down This is not good Oh big elbow This is a big round for Felder These are the championship rounds here By the way Oh elbow off the break
Starting point is 02:36:33 Elbow in the clinch by Felder was nice But again Again If that was Khabib He'd be winning right here Right? No If he got fucked up that much that round
Starting point is 02:36:44 No No By the way In this break I would like to say Punches winning right here, right? No. If he got fucked up that much that round, no. No. By the way, in this break, I would like to say, the punches, Felder is so far ahead in this round.
Starting point is 02:36:51 Literally, Hooker has landed nothing in this round that made you go, oh! I wonder the percentage of rounds the guy in the position
Starting point is 02:37:01 that Hooker's in would win, even if he got tattooed a couple times. No, no, no. He pushed him against the fence. But not like this round. Devastating changes.
Starting point is 02:37:08 He's not doing jack shit. He's just holding on. There's no way this is going to get him back. I agree with you, and I understand what you're saying, but what I'm saying is don't you think there's judges out there that would give it to the guy that has the control against the fence? That'd be tough, that round. Well, maybe that guy in Houston that gave all four rounds to John Jones over Dominic Reyes.
Starting point is 02:37:29 Wait a minute. So you're saying only a retard would do that? Did you have Jones winning that fight or Reyes? I watched it five times. And I watched it two times the next day. And then I watched it three more times since. The third round is the only confusing round. It's a little dicey.
Starting point is 02:37:43 I would say the third round is hard because John is pressing the action. I don't think nobody got robbed. It's not a clear-cut winner. I hate when people say that. Look at Paul's face. And I also feel like John just dominated the championship round. That's got to count for something. I agree with you 100%.
Starting point is 02:38:00 It's got to count for something. Okay, so let's set the record straight. Okay, check this out. This exact same round, for sure you thought Felder landed way more punches than Hooker, right? But then towards the end, Hooker had him against the fence and controlled him. He just controlled him. Felder wins that round. Everybody wins that round.
Starting point is 02:38:20 Everybody wins that round that's on Felder's side, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's clear. Yeah. Okay, that's clear. Yeah. Okay, that's all I wanted to know. This could be 2-2 going into this fifth round. It could be. When you look at the numbers, too, some people may give the first or second round a hooker.
Starting point is 02:38:33 Then you give that third round a hooker. This could be it. Then Felder got the fourth and second. And again, you've got to deal with fuckery. And here's the thing about bad judging. I mean, this is just an idea. But it is possible that bad judging leads to other people going, well, we can't be as bad as the people in Houston.
Starting point is 02:38:50 Yeah, you're right. There's like the standard lowest. Oh, you're crazy if you don't think one of these Qs are going to give Hooker four rounds to one. No matter what happens. I think so. So if you could put a guy against the fence and hold him like you did him, does that count for anything? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:03 It's control. What's the most it counts for? Oh, right hand by Felder. for anything yeah yeah it's like what is it it's definitely it's control what's the most oh right here it's control it's not everything but it's something okay what's more important is some people look at that oh right hand oh another one oh jesus is more important actual damage is more important yeah okay but let's say there was no damage at all and one guy ended up holding the other guy against the other. That guy wins. That guy wins because he proved that he's controlling the fight. He did an aggressive move. Even though there was no punches. But once you start adding punches and strikes, significant strikes, then it kind of changes it, right?
Starting point is 02:39:35 I mean, again, we're going back to this one theme that we keep repeating, but I think it needs repeating. We need a better, more comprehensive scoring system. We have to. I'm just getting that clear. Why does no one do anything, Joe? The four of us, the three of us, we talk shit about it all the time.
Starting point is 02:39:50 No one ever does anything. We wouldn't be able to do anything. I'm not saying it's better for the sport if we don't do anything. Let's talk about it after the end of this because this shit's only 15 more minutes. This is crazy. And this is wild shit.
Starting point is 02:40:00 Oh! He's got that long jab and he's still doing that. Oh! Right hand by Felder. Fucking Felder just keeps connecting. Felder is putting it on him. If they give this fight to Hooker, this is a...
Starting point is 02:40:09 It's a travesty. It's a travesty. Set it together. See, that would be a robbery. Yeah, it would be a robbery. That's a robbery. Because Felder's pushing the fight. Oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 02:40:18 Does that count? Does that count? Don't let him do... No, that's not a takedown. He's got control. But Felder's got to get out of this. See, the reason why Hooker's doing this Is because the other shit
Starting point is 02:40:27 Is not working He's losing the Stand up game He's losing the stand up game And Felder is gonna get free And when Felder gets free He's gonna land an elbow On the break
Starting point is 02:40:35 The question is At what point Does what Hooker's doing At this point right here We had something I guess in front He's gotta do damage Overshadow
Starting point is 02:40:44 The damage he took off earlier. Now it doesn't. No, because it's early in the round. He didn't do that. Felder didn't do that much. Hooker landed some shit there. We're halfway in.
Starting point is 02:40:53 We're exactly halfway in. So this is where it gets interesting. Hooker's landing now, though. Oh, right here by Felder. Hooker definitely landed a couple of good jabs there. Oh, nice jab by Felder. Hooker's got a... Oh! That's hooked by Hooker. landed a couple of good jabs there. Oh, fuck. Oh, nice jab by Felder. Great jab. Hooker's got a... Oh!
Starting point is 02:41:07 Took by Hooker. Oh, my goodness. This is crazy. Oh, my God. This is fucking crazy. This is so evenly matched. That low kick isn't working so much now. Such a good stylistic matchup.
Starting point is 02:41:18 It's tough. Like, look at the fucking shoulders on Hooker. They don't even look like they belong on his body. No. They literally belong on a 170-pound guy's body. He's got Tommy Hearn's body. He's got that long, weird- Real similar.
Starting point is 02:41:27 Real similar. Yep. I'm trying not to focus on his lats. He's got a good- You know what I mean? It's like- Skinny legs, no ass, and just all fucking fat. You took your human makeup show.
Starting point is 02:41:37 Would you spin around so I don't have to look at them fucking lats? All shoulders and biceps. Look at the size of his shoulders and biceps. His biceps are fucking giant. It's a crazy... But that's a really great body for fighting. Remember Roy Jones Jr.'s biceps? Oh, crazy.
Starting point is 02:41:51 No triceps at all. None. Just all biceps. He would throw lead left hooks instead of a jab. I'll tell you what. Your boy Hooker's getting tired. Well, so is Felder, for sure. Oh, pop that jab, Hooker.
Starting point is 02:42:03 Oh, and Felder returns with one of his own. Oh, my goodness. This is amazing. What a fight this is. Holy shit, what a fight. Oh, jab by Felder. Jeez, that jab is fantastic. This is so much more fun than doing commentary.
Starting point is 02:42:17 Oh, my God. I bet. Oh, it's not even close. The only thing that's good about commentary. Oh, right hand by Felder. Felder taking it to him. Look at this. Hooker trying again for the takedown! Right hand by Felder. Felder taking it to him. Look at this. Hooker trying again for the takedown.
Starting point is 02:42:27 He's trying again. He doesn't like it. He's in deep. Oh, no, Felder. With a minute left. Oh, no. That's got to make a difference. You're in New Zealand, too.
Starting point is 02:42:34 You've got to win him the round. You're in New Zealand, too. Felder's got to get up. He's got to get up. If he finishes the round like this, he wins. If he finishes the round like this, he wins. They're going to give him the round. You're probably right, Eddie.
Starting point is 02:42:44 He got the takedown And he's on top You're probably right Eddie How do you give it To the guy on the bottom Because the guy on the bottom Was beating the fuck out of him No
Starting point is 02:42:51 And he's not doing any damage Well not this fifth round Felder wasn't beating the shit Out of him in the fifth round He took him down though Hooker won this round Well Hooker did
Starting point is 02:42:59 Because of the takedown The takedown It's the only significant difference The judges will be able to Take it out of the round Are you telling me That takedown is not going to make a difference? Okay, the back up. The back up.
Starting point is 02:43:08 Look at him. He's going to take his back down. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, that's going to even make more of a difference. Oh, he's going to. No. Damn, if he would have ended in the mount, dude, that would be a big difference. Yeah, think about the judges right now.
Starting point is 02:43:18 This is the only significant thing that happens around, so he gets it. Nine. I know it sucks. Eight fucking bothers me, man. You've got to give this to Felder no not this round no
Starting point is 02:43:27 it's a close fight man you don't give it to the guy I love Felder but you don't give it to the guy that's it come on try not to get taken down that last round
Starting point is 02:43:36 how do you give it to the fight that last round for sure but Hooker didn't lose the previous four so you gotta give Hooker at least 1 to 2 it's gonna be close man
Starting point is 02:43:44 it's real close. Yeah, but if you judge the fight, like pride rules, by the end of the fight, you say, who won the fight? I'll wear Crocs right now. And you had a pick. That doesn't work, Eddie. But no, no, it was so close. It was so tight.
Starting point is 02:43:58 It could have gone either way. It could have gone either way. If the end of the fight looked, a guy's taking another guy down, that's got to mean the most right there. That definitely means a lot. How the end of the fight looked. I don't agree. I know you guys think that. I don't agree with that, man.
Starting point is 02:44:11 It was so tight. It was just as important as the fifth round. Don't talk over each other. Don't talk over each other. You know what I'm saying, Joe? Because you've said that's like in that Jon Jones fight, like the fourth and fifth round mean more towards the end. Because that means then the fifth round is just as important as the first round. No. That's the sport. listen that's the that's the nature
Starting point is 02:44:28 of our no no not really please don't talk over each other there's other philosophies though because the way i look at it though no no the way i look at it if if that first round was so significant like you fucking you hurt him so bad if it was so significant how come you're getting your ass kicked in the fifth round who knows shit? Shit happens in the fight. You know what I mean? So it wasn't that significant. That's the sport. It wasn't that significant. Right? If it was so significant. You're right.
Starting point is 02:44:48 He's wrong. I'm thinking like the Japanese. The Japanese think the same way. Yeah, and how'd Pied end up for him? So here's the thing, dude. Guys, guys, guys, please calm down. Hey, guys, everybody fucking calm down right now. I'm going to thumb wrestle you motherfuckers.
Starting point is 02:45:00 I'm going to thumb wrestle both of you motherfuckers. Did you just cut the cheese? I'm the fucking alpha here. Hey, Eddie, I see what you're saying How towards the end When they're both tired The rounds are more significant Real close
Starting point is 02:45:09 But it's just not our sport Significant head strikes It is our sport What are you talking about our sport? Felder has an advantage everywhere What's our sport? Except for leg strikes Felder has an advantage man
Starting point is 02:45:17 Except for leg strikes Oh damn Not a good time for that My bet is Dan Hooker gets the decision I bet you Dan Hooker Gets the decision What do you think? It's New Zealand
Starting point is 02:45:27 If he gets the significant It's New Zealand He got the takedown at the end He was on top How much do you owe him now Brian? 3,000 We bet 3,000 on this We bet 3,000
Starting point is 02:45:35 I didn't back you on this one You're on your own Come on Drew You gotta use that TV money What the fuck Give me that ABC money you fuck For still being on television Felder's winning
Starting point is 02:45:42 Still being on television And missing the podcast Yeah It's your punishment for still being on television. Felder's winning. Still being on television. And missing the podcast. It's your punishment for still being on television when you know it's over. That sounds like babies dying. I know it does. Come on, Felder. You got to give this to Felder. Give it some volume.
Starting point is 02:45:57 Felder. Oh, no. That means he's going to lose. Hold on. Here it goes. Hooker. Hooker. 48-47 for the winner by split decision. Game. Hold on Here it goes Hooker That's how close the fight was
Starting point is 02:46:11 That's such bullshit No No no no Don't be that guy Hey give me my fucking money You old fuck That's bullshit man You can't say that's a robbery
Starting point is 02:46:19 It is That's not bullshit That's not a robbery Bro first of all Two things One You weren't scoring the fight Two That's a great fight He was landing That's a great fight That's not a robbery. Rob, first of all, two things. One, you weren't scoring the fight. Two, that's a great fight.
Starting point is 02:46:27 That's a great fight. He was landing way more. In the fourth round. What about the takedowns? In the fourth round. One takedown. It for sure could have gone either way. Don't be surprised that Hooker won.
Starting point is 02:46:36 He was putting on the heat at the end. That's such a close fight. That's such a close fight. They're both great. That's such a close fight. That's such a close fight. They're both great. I would have to re-watch it, but I would have probably gave it to Paul Felder, but I did think the judges were going to give it to Hooker, just to be straight on the point.
Starting point is 02:46:55 You got to give it to the guy who's looking the best at the end. Here's the thing. We weren't shocked. That doesn't make sense. I don't know about that, Eddie. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. That's how they save themselves at the end and steal the fight.
Starting point is 02:47:04 Hey, I didn't make that shit up. That's how you make that shit up. Go talk to the Yakuza. Go talk to the Yakuza. Okay, but Eddie, we don't. The problem is everyone knows when they're going into a fight that they're operating. Let me hear what Paul Felgrast is saying here. Give me some volume, Jamie.
Starting point is 02:47:21 He knew it was close. He knew it was close. He knew it was close It might be it for him He said Wow I love that You know what I love that
Starting point is 02:47:37 Yeah Go be one of the best commentators All the time He's an awesome commentator He's a smart guy I fucking love that guy He's a smart guy too And he's been fighting
Starting point is 02:47:44 For a long time That's the kind of guy you want as your wingman at a club. You know what I mean? If you're single, you're at a club, you want this motherfucker. He's retired. He's retired. He's taking his glove off. I love that motherfucker. Dan Hooker came in. I love that motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:47:57 That's so classy by Dan Hooker. Now I love Dan Hooker. That's a great fight, man. Listen, you can't... Brian just found out who Dan Hooker is. They're both awesome. You can't be upset with that decision. Welcome to the Dan Hooker world, Brian. You can't be upset with that decision for sure if you're not watching. We're drunk and we're shouting and yelling shit and having a good time watching the fights. But I'm not shocked that Dan Hooker won that fight.
Starting point is 02:48:19 No, not at all. And I wouldn't be shocked if Paul Felder won that fight either. That was a fight that was about as close as he can get. Dan Hardy saying thank you to him. You know what? He's going to have an amazing career as a broadcaster. Hey, man, he could be a concert pianist. Paul Felder could do whatever the fuck he wants.
Starting point is 02:48:46 He's so talented. That's why he's a brilliant guy. Realistically, he's already in there. You know what I mean? As a commentator? Everybody loves him as a commentator. Nobody talks shit. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:48:56 Nobody talks shit on Felder about his commentary. I'll tell you what, Dan Hooker can take a fucking punch. Yeah, no shit, dude. And keep coming. He can. He's an animal. He's such a beast. I like how Dan Hardy's
Starting point is 02:49:06 Handling this too Going back and forth With these guys too It's beautiful The guy behind him He gets knocked out By butterflies On a regular basis
Starting point is 02:49:14 That guy's serious too The guy behind him A stiff breeze Puts him in a coma What'd you call him I had to It was for you I can fuck Brandon up
Starting point is 02:49:23 So bad if there's Someone who looks A little bit A little bit silly. I just look at them. Oh, man. I'll compliment the guy. I'll go, your hair looks good. Hey, Brian Callen, I heard you're on the road doing stand-up next.
Starting point is 02:49:32 Let's wrap this up. You're fucking right I am. Listen, I'm going to be in Omaha, Nebraska. Omaha, Nebraska. The 28th and 29th, I think. And then I'm going to be in April. Of what? February?
Starting point is 02:49:41 Yeah, and then April. I'm going to be at Cobbs for Make-A-Wish on Tuesday. This coming Tuesday. B-R-Y-A-N. B-R-Y-A-N. Yeah. TfatK.com. Go to TfatK.com so we can get tickets.
Starting point is 02:49:52 And then I'm going to be in Kansas City April 3rd and 4th. So come check me out. And I'm in Tacoma this Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Tacoma. Two shows already sold out. Get your tickets. Tacoma. What's the club?
Starting point is 02:50:04 I don't know. Tacoma Comedy Club out there. Oh, shit. I've only did Tacoma And then What's the club? I don't know Tacoma Comedy Club out there Oh shit I've only did Tacoma once Yeah I've never done it Yeah So we do 420 shows there And we're actually doing
Starting point is 02:50:12 Spokane May 1st Spokane's great And then Tacoma May 2nd on a Saturday Another 420 show And then March Theater Tour March Theater Tour
Starting point is 02:50:20 I'm in New Orleans Detroit Toronto Minneapolis Beautiful What's up? April 20th Monday night I'm in Vancouver And, Detroit, Toronto, Minneapolis. Beautiful. What's up? April 20th, Monday night, I'm in Vancouver. And then that weekend, Friday and Saturday, I'm in Nashville and New Orleans with Chappelle.
Starting point is 02:50:33 You guys at the Comedy Store Tuesday? Yes. Hell yeah. I'll be there. Yes. 10 o'clock show? Sorry, I'm watching. 10 o'clock show.
Starting point is 02:50:39 I'm on it. I'm on the 830. All right. We love you guys and girls and non-binary folks. See ya. These are special,30. All right. We love you guys and girls and non-binary folks. See you. These are special, dude. Very special. Very special.

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