The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - January 15, 2017

Episode Date: January 15, 2017

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen, to watch the fights on January 15, 2017.

Three, dos, uno, we're live, ladies and gentlemen. Cheers, cheers, gentlemen. Cheers, boys. Look each other in the eye. Always look in the eye. We're drinking because Eddie Bravo's not here, let's be honest. Sorry, Eddie, Tower 7, hashtag chemtrails. So we're here, this is a fight companion.

If you've never seen a fight or listened, either one, you listened or heard or watched a fight companion. We watched the fights. We kind of talk about them, but most of the time now. Who's this fake Conor McGregor that's selling video games? See this guy? Listen, turn this up, Jamie, so you can hear the volume on this. He looks like Conor's dad. Listen to this.

Listen to this. What I saw is life and death itself. The real question is, what are you looking for? He's too old for that haircut. He is, but what they're doing, you're definitely right, what they're doing is they're capitalizing on the fucking, the Irish.

Oh, for sure. The Irish are hot right now. Did you see Connor's commercial with John Lovitz? No. No. Yeah, he shot a commercial. Have you seen it, Jamie? And he's like on one of those horse things,

going, how's this gonna help me win my fight? John Lovitz is like, what's that M-A-A thing? And Conor throws something at him. Yeah. Yeah, bad idea. Well, he's not doing movies. He's not doing movies. That's good. The commercial takes a day.

If he's an expendable 19, then we've got a problem. We've got a problem. Well, he's passed on movies, which I think is a very, he's a very wise man. Yes, he is. Very wise. Yes, he is. You ever have a conversation with him? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You guys had him on your show, right? Yeah. I've had some

meals with the dude. Very smart guy. Yeah. He's not fucking around. No, not at all. And he's been offered, and I know from my agent, he's been offered some big-time movies. Yeah. Like, not this bullshit most fighters do, like, legit stuff. He's like, no, man, I can't right now. Are you will be talking about triple X. No return of Zen Shit yeah, I mean he's that triple X movie looks so bad. They should show it to prisoners

They should they should play it over and over again to those people in Guantanamo Bay, they'll give up ISIS, they'll give up everybody. Did you see all the bombs on? Did you see all the bombs on? No more triple X. No more. Vindiesel. Vindiesel's a hard sell for me as a tough guy. Vindiesel will get in bar fights with his sunglasses on in those fucking movies. Why does he have glasses on?

Because he's awesome. Hey, did you see him lip singing? He was happy because the deal came through and he put on Instagram him lip singing, but he was doing a Beyonce song. Hey, bro. Was he fooling-singing? He was happy because the deal came through, and he put on Instagram him lip-singing, but he was doing a Beyonce song. Hey, bro. Was he fooling? He was being silly, though. He's opening himself up.

Not silly. Oh, no. That's a problem. You've got to have irony when you do that. You must have irony. How do you know he didn't have irony? You've got to see it for yourself. How do you know he didn't have irony?

I'm feeling that jacket. That jacket's wonderful. Is that real? No, that's from Triple X. That's from the movie. I don't mind him in the first one. I like that jacket on him. That's a that jacket. That jacket's wonderful. Is that real? No, that's from Triple X. I don't mind him in the first one. I like that jacket on him. That's a dope jacket. I want to make a jacket out of a muskox.

Yes. Have the furry part on the inside. God, that'll keep you warm. Fuck yeah, it would. Maybe too warm. My dentist almost died from cold hunting muskox. Oh, you have a nutty dentist. It's like a crazy big game hunter, right?

Yes, big game hunter. He almost died. He was hunting musk ox, and it was the coldest winter for them up there, and he almost died. He and his guide. Well, why the fuck isn't he fixing your teeth? Well, that's a...

Hey, he did. And then he makes the money. I gotta get the bottom. Yeah, and then he goes and shoots animals. Yeah. Guys get addicted, man. They get addicted to chasing animals, and musk ox is a crazy one because you gotta go up to the frozen north, and when you're up addicted, man. They get addicted to chasing animals. And muskox is a crazy one because you've got to go up to the frozen north.

And when you're up there, man, there ain't shit up there. I mean, there's this guy named Tom Miranda. This is actually a very good fight. Fun fight. John Moraga versus Sergio Pettis. Dangerous fucking fight for Pettis. Moraga, who went five rounds with Mighty Mouse, got armbarred. Maybe four rounds.

He got beat up pretty bad, though. He got beat up, but he rocked Mighty Mouse to the straight left. That's true. Then he got dealt with by Joey Benavidez. That's right, he did. It was an interesting fight, though, because Pettis is really young. It's a big step up for Pettis. Big step up. But anyway, this guy, Tom Miranda,

he's got this show, Adventure Bowhunter, and this motherfucker travels all over the world hunting things, and he went to, I think it was Antarctica Where were the fuck Moscow? The roof of the world it's just it's just nothing I mean, there's nothing it's white and flat and snow for as long as the eyes can see and occasionally these animals I don't know what the fuck they even eat. I guess they must like burrow under the sand. Yeah, they

Vegetation. Yes, they eat the under the lichen shit. Yes, they eat the grass underneath the tundra. What do they look like? That's what they look like. There's Tom Arenda right there. That's him shooting one of those things. That's his fucking guy. Look what he's wearing. A moon suit. Literally a moon suit. Well, he's gotta wear that's camo up there. He's dressing all white.

But he Oh, shit. He shot a polar bear. Why the fuck did he shoot a polar bear? Look at all the dogs around shit he shot a polar bear look all the dogs around he killed he shot a polar bear apparently you talk to the people in canada and polar bears are a lot more common in canada than they would have you believe where they're not common where they're endangered is in areas where the ice shelf is melting right but greenland right butland? Right. But it's like grizzly bears. Grizzly bears used to be in California, but now they're gone. They died.

The last grizzly bear died in the 1800s in California. Damn. Which is weird because grizzly bear is our state mascot. Correct. If you look at our state flag, rather, the grizzly bear is on the state flag. Is that not a black bear on the state flag? No. No, it's a grizzly bear.

That'd be a grizzly bear. It's a grizzly bear. And you can hunt grizzly bears in Alaska. There's a lot of them. So they're extinct here, but there's a lot of them in Alaska. That's kind of the same thing with polar bears. People think that polar bears are extinct or going extinct. They're not in Canada.

And my friends in Canada that live up there that are hunters, they tell me there's a lot of polar bears up there. They also say they're the most aggressive bear, right? Yeah, it's a terrifying bear. Polar bear, too. Polar bear is the most aggressive. They say polar bear is the worst. Yeah.

This guy is a different guy. He shot that musk ox. That thing looks like straight out of the fucking dinosaur age. Looks like a Star Wars animal, right? Well, it's got to deal with those insane winters. Yeah. And he just dropped that thing. It's supposed to be delicious, too. It's like one giant ribeye. Oh, yeah? Like a those insane winners. Yeah. And he just dropped that thing. It's supposed to be delicious, too.

It's like one giant ribeye. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Like a lot of fat. Yeah. Okay, so Moraga and Pettis, it's four minutes and 15 seconds in. That's the Princess Leia horns? Yeah, look at it, man.

Well, you can see, if you're watching this fight at home, four minutes eight, four minutes seven, four minutes six, four minutes five, four minutes four, so sync it up. But these guys that go up there, you're experiencing 30, 50 below zero. Fuck all that. Can you schedule me that? The first to never? I would never, ever do that. And they do it in tents sometimes.

God damn. And they go out there on snowmobiles. That's the only way to travel. Yep. No thanks. Which is also fuck that. I can't deal with that cold. That's just crazy. A Moraga, I always thought he was is also fucked up. I can't deal with that cold. That's just crazy.

A Moraga, I always thought he was a southpaw. I guess he's switching up a bit. He's going back and forth quite a bit. Oh, yeah, this is a lot for Pettis. Yeah, he's an experienced guy. He's 10 years older almost, 9 years older. He's been around. But you know what?

One of the things that happens with those guys that have been around, you always got to wonder, like, have they decided they can't be champion anymore you know are they still 100 all in living it breathing it or have they reached that point where they've got a few losses against top flight competition and the reality of their bills and their life sets in and you know yeah you got to wonder i think that's more realistic especially with a guy like him who knows I don't know where his mindset's at but you know he got dominated

by Joey Benavidez and then he gets smashed by the champ it's kinda like god yeah he had a good fight with Mighty Mouse

but Mighty Mouse is just too goddamn fast too much yeah Mighty Mouse did work though but he did crack Mighty Mouse man he probably caught

Mighty Mouse the hardest in a championship fight he caught him flush so we were talking about this before the fight I still haven't seen it He probably caught Mighty Mouse the hardest in a championship fight. He caught him flush. So we were talking about this before the fight. I still haven't seen it. Let's see if Jamie can find it. Oh, he got cracked.

He just got cut. Sergio landed a nice right hand there. Someone landed an Ezekiel choke while mounted earlier in the card. The first ever Ezekiel choke in the UFC, and he did it from the bottom. What is an Ezekiel choke? Ezekiel choke is mostly done with a gi. You can do it without the gi, but this is what you do. Almost all the time with a gi. You grab your sleeve like this here

and then you go like that and wrap it across the guy's neck. Look at this. From the bottom. This is incredible. He's essentially doing a rear naked choke almost while mounted. It's so sneaky. It is incredible. He's essentially doing a rear naked choke almost. Oh, my God. While mounted. Oh, that's so sneaky. Oh, yeah.

It's nasty. He's got- So disappointed with himself. Well, he's obviously- Oh, he's on bottom. Yes. That's what I'm saying. And mount.

He was mounted. He was mounted and he caught that choke. Sneaky. One more time. That might be the most embarrassing loss for your heavyweight on top. I don't know if it's embarrassing, man, because look. Excuse me? What the fuck do you do when a guy's got that on you?

Go ahead and poke that eye out. What do you do when a guy's got that on you? Go and poke that eye out What do you do by any means necessary? Did it so he thought he was safe because he was mounted and he just fucking tapped Wow, that's amazing That's a heavy weight of the year. That's a heavy with 50 fights. Who is homeboy? What's his what's his name? He's a Fucking oldest shit the boa can has 50 fights Alex Russian feller fights. Who is Homeboy? What's his name? He's fucking old as shit. And he has 50 fights. Alexey Russianfeller. Interesting. Very awkward. Just submitted another heavyweight from the

bottom of Mounted. I wonder if he let him mount him. I would like to see the whole fight. I didn't see the fight at all. That's like his go-to move. I didn't see it either. My brother texted me and said, hey, this heavyweight just submitted a guy from Mount. So he always does that? No. I'm saying I wonder if he let him get Mount because that's like maybe his go-to. I've got that in no gi

from the Mount for when I was mounting someone. When you're on top all the time. Not all. It's rare, man. Against a high-skilled guy, it's going to be tough. Well, with a gi. I've got it with a gi. I've never seen it without a gi, to be honest. Oh, really? No. Henner's done it to me a couple of times, but I've never done it. Who has? Henner. Henner. No gi? Yeah, no gi. I've never seen it without a gi, to be honest. Oh, really? No. Henner's done it to me a couple times, but I've

never done it. Who has? Henner. Henner. No gi? Yeah, no gi. Wow. Well, they have long-ass arms, man. Long, skinny arms are so good for those kind of moves. I mean, it's on her. I mean, that's for sure the first no-gi Ezekiel choke in the UFC. Yeah. Even crazier

that the guy was mounted. And a heavyweight. Yeah. Crazy. Oh! Oh, they both cracked. They both cracked at the same time. He's got a big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, Yeah, he really is. So what do you think of his brother? I thought his brother's fighting Marbek Taisimov. Wait, is that his brother Anthony Pettis? Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, man, that's the end of the first round. I did not know that. Damn, Sergio looked really good.

Not in this fight and not in this card, he's not. But I saw that on Instagram. I'm going to make sure that's true. It might not be true. It might be like Taisimov trying to get that fight. Yeah. He's going back up to 55. And that's the right choice, man.

Yeah, I think so, too. But I think he's got to put some mass on. I think he's got, you know, when you're dealing with these Eddie Alvarez, Rafael Dos Anjos type guys that are just mauling him and just staying close to him like glue, I don't think he's physically strong enough. I think it's a physical thing, but it's also a technique thing. Grappling's just not in his wheelhouse, really. Well, it is.

He's gotten better. I'm not saying that he's not good at it, but to the level of Eddie Alvarez and Dos Anjos, it's tough. Although he did submit Benson Henderson, right? Yep. Yep. And submitted Gilbert Melendez. Yep.

With a guillotine. Yeah. He has some slick jiu-jitsu, but when it comes down to the grind, the transitions and stuff. Submitted Oliveira, too. Yeah. He has slick jiu-jitsu. Yeah. But whenever he fights

a bigger dude who can grapple typically when he loses right yeah well these fucking guys man that lose a ton of weight they come in big and heavy

and strong and they're better wrestlers than Maul it's a nightmare yeah and he's used to getting mauled in the gym you know he's a

training partner with Askren look at that he gets cracked and then he cracks him back that was crazy boom straight right wow Pettis looking slick coming together he looks amazing With Askin look at that he gets cracked and then he cracks him back. That's crazy Wow Pettis looking slick coming together. He looks amazing 126 small guys fly weight son. God fly weight son

Thanks, buddy. Yeah, it's a tough division to sell right now. You know, I mean, Mighty Mouse dominating the division. Then they have that Ultimate Fighter episode. Tim Elliott wins the Ultimate Fighter. Fights Mighty Mouse, gives him a hell of a fight. Hardest fight he's ever had. And then Mighty Mouse, I mean, he essentially says,

I can't ever fight this weight class again. I gave Mighty Mouse a hell of a fight. He goes, my body was freezing up, locking up while I was inside the octagon. That's what Tim Elliott said? Yeah. Wow. He's going up to 35. So that's one more. And, of course, Lineker was a big guy at 25.

He goes up to 35. And TJ Dillashaw just fucking ran a train on him. God, that was crazy. Woo! TJ looked good. Shows you how good TJ is. Straight up train. Now you got TJ versus Cody. That's going to be fun. Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy. Woo! TJ looked good. Shows you how good TJ is. Straight up train. Now you got TJ versus Cody. That's gonna be fun. Yeah.

Yeah, that's gonna be amazing. That is a tough fight to call, actually. Okay, so here's the fight, right? So the dude's on top of him, and he locks it up. Look, he's got the arm. He's holding on. It looks like he's just controlling the posture. Here he has it set up. Sort of, almost. And the dude mounts him, and then

he slides it under the neck. Look at this. He baited him into it, I feel like. Wow, yeah, I feel like he did too. And look at that. Look at how he's like locking him in place. Wow. He's holding on in the mount while he's getting tapped. That's crazy. He's using, the guy on top is using the

grapevine. Look at how he, like this is pretty slick, man. It's pretty slick. This is hard. Well, you hold on to your arm the same as a rear naked choke. It's like a rear naked choke, but you're doing it in the front of his neck instead of the back of his neck. So he's grabbing his own bicep there? Yeah, but look at the guy on top.

Look how the guy on top is grapevining the legs. Here you go, Joe. That's like, it's kind of crazy. Yeah. It's like he's holding him in position. I guess he's trying to take some of the pressure off. He set him up. He even gave him mount. You see how he leaned his hips to the way

To let him slide into mount. He must do that all the time He's sliding that in there. That's some veteran shit to give a heavyweight mount to choke him out. Crazy. With a no-gi-a-zee-kil Crazy that is fucking crazy one more time Jamie. It's pretty cool. We say that one more time I'd like to know what he's doing with his hand underneath there Well, he's doing like a rear naked choke or a karate chop. Think of rear naked choke, but with nose to nose. Right, and he's doing this with his hand. You know how old school rear naked

choke was? See, it's the same setup. You know, old school rear naked choke, like Ken Shamrock style, they used to grab the back of the head like this. They would palm the back of the head and just squeeze it, which kind of can work, but not on the best guys. On the best guys, you gotta get the karate chop on the back of the neck. That's it, which kind of can work, but not on the best guys. On the best guys, you got to get the karate chop on the back of the neck. That's when you get like vicious leverage.

So he's doing exactly that same move, but he's doing it on the front of the neck. And the guy on top had no idea what was going on. Otherwise, he would have hand fight. Yeah, man. He could have hand fight on the front there. He doesn't even have a chance to get out of it. Look, he doesn't even try to get his hands in between. He doesn't know what's going on.

Yeah, he doesn't know what's going on, and all of a sudden he's getting tapped. Amazing. That's amazing. It's rare you get surprised, right? Something in the UFC. Super rare. Well, think about it. There's only one ever Ezekiel choke.

That's it. And it's from while the guy was mounting him, which is crazy. There's only one ever omoplata. That's Ben Saunders, who's also on this card. Correct. Only ever omoplata in the UFC, which is crazy. It's tough to pull off. But it happens all the time in the gym.

Yeah, man, it's tough to pull off. You know what it is, man? Guys usually roll over. Yeah, because they want position instead of submission. Yeah. Because your chance of finishing, especially with a really tough guy. Yeah. Especially if they have shoulder mobility.

But you've seen how Imanari finishes it, right? Oh, yeah. Because your chance of finishing, especially with a really tough guy, especially if they have shoulder mobility. But you've seen how Imanari finishes it, right? Oh, yeah. I'm amazed that that hasn't been in the UFC because that is such a good technique because you can get that position because a lot of times guys will give you that rubber guard and mission control position. Then all you have to do is clear the neck, get that foot across. Then once you have that foot across and you just start to set up the omoplata, as the guy's defending the omoplata, as the

guys defending the omoplata, usually they expose their neck because they're so concentrating on defending the omoplata. Have you seen how Mackenzie Dern sets it up? Yep. Did you see her last fight? Yes. What the fuck? Amazing.

And she's a dime piece. Dime piece. What is going on in the world? Jamie, pull up Mackenzie Dern submission. A lot of people are saying it's like submission of the year. She's a real elite Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt and she's Megaton Diaz's daughter.

And she's a darn piece. And she sets up this omoplata and then moves from the omoplata to a choke from the back. So she has the omoplata. And she reaches up and grabs the waist first. She does, but she rolls. And she winds up on her back choking the girl from behind.

She rolls underneath her wife. Yeah, check it. Look, it's beautiful. She's so good. You know, it's so interesting to see super high-level jiu-jitsu. Look how she pins down the neck. She goes with a high guard. And she's using the – it's not like rubber guard style.

She's doing it different. She's setting up the omoplata. Okay, so she avoids that leg. That's the big issue as far as defense is, right? Yeah, kick the leg. You can't let them roll. Right. So she sits up. She gets her butt out, right? And so the girl keeps trying to do it, and she won't

let her. But now, once she gets this position, watch how she rolls. She rolls on her shoulder. Boom! So she pulls her on her back. So look. Look at her shoulder and neck. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my god. So look. She sneaks that left arm under the chin. Yes. Sneaking.

Beautiful technique, man, because she can't defend with that arm. And look, she uses the butterfly in the left leg, too. That's crazy. It's so nasty. That's crazy. It's so nasty. That's so beautiful. It's so high level.

So high level. And the way she sets it up is so cool, too, because she rolls onto her back, too. You rarely see anyone do this. Watch how she does this. She rolls onto her back and too. Like, you rarely see anyone do this. Like, watch how she does this. She rolls onto her back and pulls her on top of her. And that girl's like, what in the fuck is happening? She's still got the omoplata. Yeah, that's the whole key.

She's holding on to the omoplata still. That's the whole key. Oh, no. You know how BJ used to do it when he would take guys' backs? And BJ has that incredible leg dexterity. He would tie up the arms. Yeah. So he's an octopus. Yes, yes.

And so he could defend against the, or he could up the arms. He's an octopus. And so he could defend against the or he could stop the defense with that leg. Well she's doing that kind of same thing but she's doing it from an omoplata. That girl's arm is locked the fuck up. That's so awful. You know when zebras get attacked by lions?

That sheer tear on their face. That girl had no idea. Her arm is wrapped up tight and then on top of that she's using her That sheer tear on their face. Like that girl had no idea. Look at her arms. Look at her arms. She had no idea what was going on. Her arm is wrapped up tight. And then on top of that, she's using her butterfly to trap the leg. Like, look, she wraps that left leg over. And then she goes with the butterfly on the left side. See how she's doing that?

God. God damn. That's so much control. So much control. I wonder how her English is. Who gives a fuck? I am trying to market here. You could talk to her through one of them apps.

I'm going to slide in some DMs with Portuguese Portuguese just broken Portuguese. You see one of those there's apps that um It's like I think it's called Google Lens. I've used a world lens. I've used it It's really cool when you're another country you hold it up to a sign and it translates a sign to English. Really? Yeah. Wow It's amazing. Wow. Yeah, dude when I was in Italy, I would just hold it up To signs And it would translate Everything to amazing That's so cool It's incredible Yeah It's incredible

I mean real time too Real time no delay Damn Yeah it's amazing I mean it's a little broken Like cause the translation's off The way they use their pronouns You do it with your phone or what

Yeah You just hold your phone up God It's so cool That's crazy Fuck a tour guide now Yeah man And apparently they're getting so close

To having something That sits in your ear. Like when you go on tour or if you go somewhere, something that sits in your ear and then translates what they're saying to you in real time in your ear. God damn. So we don't need to learn anything. You don't need to learn shit. I, thank God. Look at this.

In-ear device that translate foreign languages in real time. That's so dope. What is this called, Jamie? That's amazing. I typed in in-ear translator. There's a lot of them already.'s so dope. What is this called, Jamie? That's amazing. I just typed in in-ear translator. There's a lot of them already. So many people losing jobs. There's a lot of them already?

Yeah. So many people losing jobs? I don't know how good they work, but they're readily available. Wow. So it's already available. Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. It says you can pre-order it, so maybe it's not. Pre-order?

Sergio looking for the choke. Moraga's all over him. We're barely paying attention. Pettis has got a huge contusion On the inside of his leg $200 I'm fucking in Isn't that crazy Go ahead and preorder that for us

That was probably worth That would be $200,000 Five years ago Wait what's that Amazing $4,000 Oh funds Oh $4 million raised

Oh so it's like a Kickstarter Indiegogo Indiegogo Fuck I'm not I want the second generation You don't want that first one It'll get you in trouble

Get you in big trouble Get you in trouble, huh? Get you in big trouble. Get you in trouble in South America. You might talk some shit accidentally. Lead you to a whorehouse. I'm so confused. The moraga on top here. I'm so confused.

Look at this. Moraga on top here. So aggressive. So aggressive. Whorehouse. Hey, man, I don't know It's weird down in South America I've seen you guys never bend for god sakes

I hear it's uh Yeah that's legal down there If it's legal it's not How about Pettis People love to go to South America to surf Yes Moraga dropping down for a leg lock Holds on hold on

You know what man this is This is changing no-gi. Changing no-gi is leg locks. It is a transforming no-gi. And it's just a matter of time before these Gary Tonin-type characters, these Eddie Cummings, start getting into MMA and dominating guys. Held tonight's a master. Marcin Held, yeah. He's a master with leg locks.

He is. But he's fighting Lozon. And Joe Lozon is a very very good grappler. And certainly good enough to defend and keep that guy off him. So it's going to be really interesting to see whether or not Marcin can get it to the ground and whether Lozon is

up on all the latest shit. I hope it goes to the ground. Could be really interesting. I really do. Lozon's no joke, man. His ground game is super fast, too. He dives on things. Great transitions. Why are leg locks changing no-gi? Well, there's a whole trans, a whole

path that took place. And one of the big parts of it was Dean Lister. Dean Lister was one of the original leg lock guys in America. Super high-level black belt, Abu Dhabi champion. I mean, Dean Lister is a beast. About as thick a human being as it gets.

About as thick as it gets. You know, and he's, you know, he hasn't had the success lately that he had when he was younger. But make no mistake about it. His knowledge of grappling, super, super high level. Well, he went down to Henzo's. Who the fuck was fighting that he went down to Henzo's to help somebody out? How long ago is this? It was a while ago.

God damn it. Why don't I know the fucking, anyway, point, point being, he helped some guys down at Henzo's and showed them some of his leg lock stuff. And, uh,

that started with this John Donahue, John Donahue, who's essentially one of the smartest guys in jujitsu. He might be a prophet. He's a fucking, he's a savant. He's got a fucking awesome Instagram post today, I think,

or maybe yesterday about using the legs while grappling and how important it is to learn how to use your legs and how much more strength you have in your legs and endurance you have in your legs. And if you get used to using your legs a lot in grappling how much quicker you can progress We use BJ Penn as an example. He's also the same guy that will rock an Under Armour fit shirt with jeans at the bar He'll wear a rash guard to a wedding. He will wear a rash dog Oh John? That's what you're dealing with here. John's always in a rash guard no matter what. He's an animal. But he does not give a fuck. And he has rules that he'll give you

as to when you should get married and they're basically never. But he goes over all the rules. If you're over 50 and she's under 25 and she's worth millions of dollars so you don't have to work and she brings in other women.

You look crazy. He's got a great sense of humor. He's always tongue-in-cheek. He's always joking. she makes it so you don't have to work and she brings in other women yeah well she brings crazy he's got no no he's got a great sense of humor he's always tongue-in-cheek yeah he's always joking like you know he's got his phd in philosophy from columbia for sure do you know how he got started unless ladies you know how donahue got started no but i was there when john was you know when i was hensos for the year i i was i would see john literally every day john was a bouncer and he was a big fucking powerlifter dude. What? Yeah that's right yeah and he wanted to learn how to do martial arts to protect himself. He's a real smart guy. So he starts doing jiu-jitsu and goes oh look I found

my life's work. Yes and then he gets super into it becomes a black belt not just like one of the most respected black belts but starts coaching and teaching people apparently he's got like some bad joints man like real bad like he's got a bad hip and he people. Apparently he's got some bad joints, man. Like, real bad. Like, he's got a bad hip and he had it replaced. He's been doing it forever. He's got a bad knee. But I think the knee is a genetic defect. There he is. He's so funny. Just a fucking

genius guy when it comes to jiu-jitsu. Nicest guy, too. The Donaher Death Squad, all those guys that he's got in New York out of Henzo's, like Gary Tonin, like Eddie Cummins, all these super high-level leg-lock attack guys. But by the way, Gary Tonin's having a submission grappling match against

Hector motherfucking Lombard. What? Yes. In what league? I think it's Flow Grappling. Is that what it is? Is that Sonnen stuff? I don't know. I don't know. It might be. I hope it is. I hope for a jail that it is because that's an awesome matchup. Sick. That's a great... And he just got

done fighting Toquinho. You know, he fought Husamara Pajaras. Went to a draw with him and Pajaras was... Like Jack LaLanne, one of those late night commercials. Hold on. Like the old pride days. Look at that. Okay, what is it? Oh my God. Is Jeff Glover in this too?

Who's Jeff Glover having an event with? It's called Submission Underground Oh, Submission Underground, okay Is this Chael Sonnen's thing? I feel like it is Who's that giant guy? That's Hector He's jacked

Hector Lombard Is he suspended for a while? Yeah Dude, he was in some sweats. I thought they were spray-painted on when I saw him. Remember that? He had the... Remember that in Vancouver?

We were together. Last time I was living in... Sergio Pettis. Nice ass guy we've ever seen. Sergio Pettis by decision. Best ass I've ever seen. Hey, can you scroll up a little there? What is his Dylan Dennis?

Jeff Glover's Chad Mendes. What's this right here? What's going on here? It says John Jones' Dennis. John Jones is taking on Dylan Dennis? I don't know. It says it's a fan poster, so's a fan poster. Oh, Jesus. That's Boss Logic, that artist.

Might be the best in the world. You seen his posters? Amazing. He's the one that does all those crazy posters. Dope. Dope posters. Oh, ridiculous. Is he the one that did Conor McGregor in an MMA glove punching Floyd in the mouth?

Correct. He also did the New York one with all the dope stuff. Let me tell you, here's where Conor McGregor can win. Here's where Conor McGregor can win. MMA gloves. Let's have you, here's where Conor McGregor can win. Here's where Conor McGregor can win. MMA gloves. Let's have a boxing match with MMA gloves. I don't think you need to do that. Well, Floyd's had some serious problems

in the past with his hands. Correct. And he uses those big-ass pillow gloves because of it. And he's been known to not really sit down on his punches, just picks guys apart. There's no doubt about it.

Floyd is a masterful boxer. But that's a big transition for him to fighting with small gloves. He's never going to agree to that. Just as big as the transition is for Conor to fight with bigger gloves. You're right. They're going to do boxing, but I honestly think with how Conor moves,

don't get me wrong, Floyd's one of the best of all time, if not the best, but it's a lot for him to adapt to. Conor's big. He hits fucking hard. He can go both ways. We'll see. We'll see. I want to see what- Look at all the work this guy puts in.

Oh, is he the one who did the fucking Joey Diaz and me? Fucking Calabeeb has got him. Joey with his gum flying out of his mouth. Your gun's flying out of your mouth. Put your gun back in your mouth. His fucking gum's always flying out of his mouth. He's an animal. Conor's not going to really fight. That's not going to happen, that fight. Hey, dude, it's a lot of his mouth. He's an animal. Conor's not going to really fight.

That's not going to happen, that fight. Hey, dude, it's a lot of fucking money. Here's the deal. Floyd Mayweather's last pay-per-view made $300,000. Dana had a real good point. He goes, Conor's last two pay-per-views were $1.3 million and $1.5 million. He goes, Floyd's was $300,000. And it's a great point.

And Floyd's asking for $500 million or $100 million, rather. He goes, you're out of your fucking mind. He goes, here's a real deal. I'll give you $25 million. I'll give Conor $25 million. And then we'll talk about pay-per-view after a certain amount. And then you get $1,000 from Reebok. You get $4,000.

It's not a championship fight, but it's a main event. Boom! Look at this. Boom! Hey, B, this is why it's getting serious. Because Dana addresses it, made an offer on national TV. Floyd was on Showtime last night, and they go, is there any boxer that could bring you out of retirement? He goes, nope.

The only fight that would get me out of retirement is Conor McGregor. It's the only fight I want. He knows there's so much money in that fight. Conor McGregor is a goddamn giant. I've been saying it. It's going to fucking happen. But see, the thing is, that's a fight that would transcend into the total casual person. Yes.

The same way the Ronda Rousey fights do, but this whole- But that would dump on that. This might be like three million. This might be like three million. Because it might be like such a freak show. But how is Conor- Three, four mil. Three, four mil.

Three or four million? I think so. He's going for it. I'm getting nuts. What's the most pay-per-view- I never exaggerate. What would you say the biggest pay-per-view fight ever? What was the number? Number one of all time.

Pacquiao Mayweather, right? Pacquiao Mayweather. Is that the biggest of all time? Before we look at the numbers, let's guess. I'm going to say 2.5. Is that the biggest ever? 2.5 mil? I'm going to say almost 3.

It is for that fight. It is for Pacquiao Mayweather? Yeah, but you're off on the numbers What's the number? I think it's five right four point six mil That's what I'm saying Connor and then can beat that but damn how much money to me where mother making that fight revenue of 400 million Oh my Jesus, so he probably made at least a hundred plus more that didn't they say made 150 160 million Plus million. Didn't they say he made $150 million?

$160 million? Wow. And Pacquiao made like $80 million or $100 million. But him and Conor, you're getting, even if you hate Conor, you're still getting all those MMA fans because he represents us. Even if you hate Floyd, you're getting all those boxing fans, even if you hate Floyd. And then the two worlds just go, good douche. Do you think that they can make it up to that level? Wow.

That's why Dana's entertaining it. I want to know why Conor or how Conor isn't concerned he'll get knocked out in the first round. He has nothing to lose. He won't get knocked out in the first round. No? He won't get knocked out in the first round. It doesn't work that way. You mean you can protect yourself against even somebody that good? Conor's very high level and quick.

And also, Mayweather doesn't hit that hard. Conor's a lot bigger. Right. Conor moves different than a lot of boxers do because he's so used to leg kicks, he's so used to takedowns, and he has a different stance. That alone will take a little bit of time for Mayweather to adjust to, but Mayweather has the ability to be in the right place at the right time always. All the time.

And it's so deceptive. It's so deceptive because it doesn't look like he's doing anything special. But if you watch the way he's moving, he's never out of position, and he's always popping you with that jab, and he's still, even at 37, 38? No, he's 39, yeah. 39? Or he might be 40. Lightning fast.

He doesn't take advantage, especially lately, though. He doesn't take advantage of getting out of the way. He's winning rounds with the jab. Then he's dicking and dodging, getting out of the way. I just don't. Dicking and dodging. I think for Conor, though, man, it's a win-win for him. Could you imagine if Conor lands the left hand of Duma?

That's what I'm saying. It ain't going to happen. What would we do? Hey, man, listen. Conor fought, I mean, rather, Floyd fought Ricardo Mayorga. Yeah. No, not Ricardo Mayorga. You're thinking Madonna.

Madonna. Marcos Maidana, right? Yes. And Maidana connected at the end of one of the rounds. Floyd fought Ricardo Mayorga Yeah No not Ricardo Mayorga You're thinking of Madonna Madonna Marcos Maidana right Yes And Maidana connected At the end of one of the rounds He connected with a big fucking right hand He was mauled And had him sit down for a second

Yeah Did he hit him though Because I watched that fight Oh yeah 100% Excuse me sir It felt like he He clipped him once

It felt like he still He still caught a little shoulder No no no It was really only once But it was the first fight The second fight Floyd boxes boxes fucking face up. Sugar Shane wobbled him too, though. Yeah, we'll see it here.

See, and Maidana is, you know, murderous puncher. And he would throw those crazy Chuck Liddell-style overhand rights. So he's all over Floyd here. And at the end of one of the rounds, amazing. Look at him. But listen, this guy is way smaller than Conor. Let's think of this. We're talking about a guy here that's fighting 147,

154. Conor, although he's made it down to 145, he's physically much larger than this guy. Conor won't put a glove on him. I love that you guys are talking about he won't put a glove on him, and he will not hit him, and I think Floyd's going to do whatever he wants. You want to bet every lance

one shot? And you pay none of them off. It's very strange. To say that Conor McGregor is... He won't land a shot? No. Can you pour me some more wine? Something won't land a clean shot. What do me and Joe know? Pour me some more wine. What I do know is that great fighters

haven't done it. I know that he made Pacquiao look clumsy. I know that. Pacquiao had one arm. I know that. made Pacquiao look clumsy. I know that. Sure. Pacquiao had one arm. I know that. But he's done it to everybody. Oh, see, Madonna clipped him there with a left or a right uppercut, rather. But at the end of one of the—oh, dude, he's a beautiful boxer.

Look at him. Look at that. That's whatever he wants. Hey, man, you don't get to be 49-0 without being fucking sensational. No. You just don't. He's the best defensive boxer of all time, right? Yeah, I would say so.

I would say so. I mean, he's— You You know Pernell Whitaker lost He also hasn't fought in two years Pernell Whitaker lost later on in his career He wasn't able to sustain it as long as Mayweather has So what Mayweather's been able to do is sustain it better than anybody And also keep improving I mean like when he fought Canelo

He A lot of people thought Canelo was going to give him a hard time Young Canelo is too big for him He fought Canelo up gonna give him A hard time Young Canelo He's too big for him He fucked Canelo up Okay look at this They're having the ultimate fight They're having Cody And DJ

And TJ To coach each other On the ultimate fighter Or to coach opposite each other That's gonna be amazing How much shit talking Is going on in that season God it's gonna be

Team Alpha Male Versus TJ Through the psychological Damage he could take From that encounter I guess Cody has A tape of him Kn knocking out TJ in practice. Yeah, that's what he keeps saying.

Yeah. He wouldn't be saying it unless it was real. No, he definitely has it. Not that that really matters because it's practice, isn't it? It kind of does. I mean, it just kind of does. It kind of does at the end of the day. Yeah, I mean, listen, man.

I'm a huge Floyd Mayweather fan of him skill-wise as a boxer, and I think that he made it through prize fighting better than anybody ever. That's right, and he takes top-ranked fighters, I mean the best in the world who are boxers specifically, and does anything he wants. I've never seen anything like it. Gentlemen, he hasn't fought in two years, and he's 40 now. He's 40.

I don't care, Brandon. Those things are all true. I don't care. I don't care. Well, he hasn't fought in two years and he's 40 now. He's 40. Those things are all true. Brandon Schaub. I don't care. I don't care. You're both right. You're both right. That's what makes it so intriguing. He is 40. Look, if he was in his prime and... It's not a conversation.

Yeah, it's not really a conversation. Connor would most likely get boxed up. It's just a different thing, man. What Mayweather can do with his movement, like right there. Oh, look at that. I mean, it's just a different thing. But you know what, man? He's not hurting anybody, though.

Look what Joe Smith Jr. did to Bernard Hopkins. Exactly. And Bernard Hopkins was like the untouchable man forever. Now, granted, you're dealing with a hop. He was 50. 11 years old. He was 51, almost 52. Father time, like Brennan was saying,

father time sometimes will just go, he'll just tap you on the shoulder and just go, hey, it's time now. And that's when you get knocked out. To everybody. To everybody. Undefeated. Father Time is a motherfucker and he just waits. For now, I think within our lifetime, we're going to see Father Time start to take some

L's. Technology takes out Father Time too? God. God. I think what's going to happen is, do you know that there's a startup now that will fill your body with the blood of young people like a goddamn vampire? What? Give me some of that vampiro blood right now.

There's some fucking new research that's shown that if you take old blood from mice and put it in young mice, they slow down and get tired and they get sicker. But if you take young blood from young mice and put it in old mice, they literally go back in time. They reverse.

They get faster. They have more energy to recover better. They might have more testosterone in their bodies and everything. Yeah, that too. Everything. But not just that. It's new cells. Yeah, the age of the blood itself changes.

You got them old ass cells. I got old cells. Hey, bro. Don't try to bite me and suck in my blood, bro. How much is it, Jamie? $80,000? $8,000. $8,000.

This startup will fill your veins with the blood of young people. Jamie, book an appointment. The kid's going in. No, we could just put a post on Instagram. We get some young brats in LA and just drain them. Pay them $100 for their blood. That's a lot of estrogen in the blood, bro. But you have to get the right blood.

You want a guy's blood. You don't want a girl's blood. Get man blood. Why did you say that? Doesn't matter. What if you get the blood? Seriously, though. Get man blood. Why did you say that? It doesn't matter. What if you get the blood? Seriously, though. Get man blood, bro.

Hashtag man blood. But they check your blood. Think about that. They check your blood, and they find all these different things in your blood, right? They can find steroids in your blood. They find drugs in your blood. They also find what your testosterone levels are and all sorts of different hormone levels. Well, if that's the case, then that means the blood must vary in its potency and vary

in its... What you would do is you'd hire someone to live a monastic life of nothing but grass-fed muskox. Like a little deal. And broccoli. Yeah. And nuts. And broccoli and fucking asparagus and shit.

You feed this guy all the best supplements and get his hormones just perfect. You inject him with the drugs? No, you drain him. You take his blood. You pump it into perfect. You inject him with the drugs? No, you drain him. You take his blood, you pump it into you. You pay him. You pay him to give up a gallon of that blood. Yeah. How much blood does a person keep on them at any given time?

Eight pints, right? Is that what it is? Because you can only donate, what, two or three before you get all lightheaded and have to drink OJ and shit? One or two, maybe one. So if these people are giving up their blood, I mean, are you getting the blood from like one guy and then another guy with one guy's a fucking...

I want it pure. Don't give me multiple partners here. I want some pure blood. I want this fake Conor McGregor guy getting this ad. God damn it. Selling video games. Way too old for that haircut again. Conor's dad with a mohawk.

Hey, this has to be in LA or fucking... Or it's like in some dark part of Germany. San Fran. What? It's in Monterey. What is? I'm up there the first week of fucking February. Jamie Bookett.

The doctor used to be an Olympic rower. We're doing Cobbs. Hold on, say that again. The doctor used to be an Olympic rower. Yeah. The girl that's running the trial. Yeah. That doesn't make me feel any better.

Is it a trial? Do they have any results so far? Have they done it? Young plasma clinical trial. They're going to post results as they get them. I don't want me feel any better. Well, is it a trial? Do they have any results so far? Have they done it? Young Plasma Clinical Trial. They're going to post results as they get them. I don't want to be a guinea pig. Oh, no, I need some legit shit. We're doing...

I'm going to do that and then have that translated in my ear like an asshole. Go ahead and have some of that. I would normally say there's got to be... Don't you in the microphone, Brian. Jesus fucking Christ. I would normally say that there's probably got to be something to it but on the heels of that theranos thing do you know about theranos you don't know about that oh my god theranos is one of the most fascinating technology stories of the last year theranos was this huge startup that was they were working with walgreens

and they had these contracts I think with, I want to say with Costco too, I don't know who it was, but there was this woman she was the biggest self-made billionaire ever. She was worth at one point in time some, like 30 billion dollars or something fucking crazy. God. She was

the female Steve Jobs and she would dress like Steve Jobs. Down to the turtleneck and the sweater, the whole deal. Bullshit. It's not bad looking either. Worse than that. It was all fraud. Her company was bullshit. The results were like 65% accurate, and they were trying to

pass it off as being like in the high 90s. What was she selling? They hid results. It's a blood test. All they would have to do is take a prick of your blood, they'd take a prick of your blood. They take a prick of your blood and then with that blood they can test you for a variety of different diseases. So people were making critical health decisions based on

this blood test that they had proof wasn't working correctly. So one of the people that worked at Theranos became a whistleblower. She went from being worth billions of dollars to being worth zero. Because they sued her? I'm sure she sued through the ass, too. No, because the government

stopped them from doing these tests. She's getting sued through the ass, for sure. I'm sure she has money in the bank, but that's going to go away. No, there's no money anymore. There's no money. She didn't have personal money? It doesn't matter. It was stock. It was stock money. Not only that, there's hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuits. I got a good bullshit meter.

Let me just explain what's happening. So what happened was everybody bought this package of who this person was, this female Steve Jobs, and they wanted to buy into it so hard. And it became a marketing thing. She was wearing black turtlenecks, man. God damn it. She was literally doing the Steve Jobs look. I will kick that bitch in the titty, say she had white new balances on her.

Here's where it all came down to. It all came down to one really fucking clunky sentence that she said when she was trying to explain what went wrong. See if you can pull up the Wired magazine article. She said something. And what she said was like they explained like how it worked. And she goes, well, it's a chemistry that takes place and like use like incorrect terminology. And so a writer started digging in. And he realized she didn't know what she was talking about.

I saw a speech that she gave at this women's conference thing, like this women's empowerment thing. And when I was watching her talk, I'm like, God, her thoughts are so cluttered. It's like she didn't know she was going to give a speech. And she's giving this speech. By the way, this fight is a good fight for two reasons. One, because Ben Saunders is fucking wicked on the ground, especially off his back. And two, because Court McGee has incredible stamina. I mean, incredible.

He works out at, yeah, and he's at the pit elevated, which is up there in Utah. High elevation. And the fucking guy is just relentless with his cardio. I haven't seen him in a while either. He's been, it's been. He's taking a little time off. So Ben has had more problems with his cardio. I haven't seen him in a while either. He's been... He's taking a little time off. So Ben has had more problems with his stamina. And I hope he's corrected that.

Because I think... Ben's nasty in the clinch, man. He is. He's very nasty with knees. And he's super good off of his back. Like one of the best guys off of his back. He's long too, man. He's got those mutton chops.

Do you see the statement, Jamie? I don't see an exact statement. There's an article that said they came out with that. First of all, Ben's a huge 170 and kind of started it all. Yeah, huge 170. They started the whole problem, and then they followed that article. First of all, if you buy anything from a lady dressed as a fake Steve Jobs, you're fucked already. I would walk in, like, oh, she's dressed like Steve Jobs.

See you later. What's the headline? Pull up the headline of this article so I can see if that's the right one no go to the top go to the top everything no that's not it let's find her and get her blood no her blood is filled with debt

she's fucked negativity hey think about that phone call when they called her it's all out Wall Street Journal did an article about it exposing it and then Vanity Fair did an article exposing it negativity. Hey, think about that phone call when they called her that it's all out. It's just full of shit. Wall Street Journal did an article about it, exposing it. And then Vanity Fair did an article exposing it. Where did you get your news from, bro? That's what she should have said.

Fake news. Eddie, quick! Did you see Trump said that to CNN? Yeah. He wouldn't answer CNN. He said, you're fake news. In front of them. In front of them. Like, nope, not answering, answering fake news so bad for CNN And you know what in this case he's right they talked about

Unsubstantiated reports I mean they basically were spreading propaganda for whoever the fuck invented it whether it's a troll or whether it's Yeah, not good not good You know a child really good point guy. I can You know, and Trump had a really good point. I kind of like that. He had a really good point, too. He's like, everybody knows I'm a germaphobe. He goes,

I'm not hiring people to pee on me or pee on anybody. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, that was ridiculous. Well, apparently, that guy,

that ex-British operative, wasn't he hired by, I think, certain Democratic super PACs or somebody like that to discredit Trump? I mean, it's basically... And he came up with a golden shower party?

It's just so uncreative. I bought that shit. Did you? I did. I was like, damn, he likes to party. Saunders is looking good on the outside, man. I'll do that. I gave it to Rogan.

I'm not eating while the podcast's going. I'm a professional. God, you are a professional. You're so disciplined. That's some of the best cheese you ever tried. You're here to work, bro. It's got to be some of the best cheese, right? Is it raw milk cheese?

Sure is Wow, you're You are an artisan lover I don't tolerate cow milk as well as I tolerate goat milk It's a little better Court has had some serious fucking injuries, man He had some battles Didn't he have like a serious hand injury?

He had something like serious Really wrong with his hand He took like two years off Yeah I want to say it was a hand injury. And then Ben Saunders got cut from the UFC. This is his first fight back, huh? No.

No, no, no. No, he's had more than one fight back, I believe. No, his last fight was in some weird location. Oh, he went back again? In like Wisconsin, yeah. Really? Pretty sure. Can you confirm that, James?

I'm pretty sure, though. You know what? I think you're right. This is his third run with the UFC, then. Yeah. Wow. He's looking good, man. And court's cut. Court courts cut over that left eye. See but here's the thing. What's matter? No Fight night at the island is what it was called. I'm sorry. Yeah UFC didn't do that earlier last year Yeah, we had a fight UFC fight night 81 January 2016 and then September he fought fight night at the island in

Wisconsin though, yeah? Oh, so that was Jacob Volkman. Yeah, Jacob Volkman. That was outside the UFC. Minnesota. Yeah, there's no UFC Island in Minnesota. Yeah, Volkman is a guy from Minnesota. Remember that guy? Yeah, good grappler, man. Real good grappler.

He was winning fights too. Yeah. He was one of the guys that called out Obama after he had been visited by the Secret Service. Oh, that's right. Because he called out Obama because he fucking, Obamacare basically killed his business. Damn. Really? A lot of small doctors, small practices apparently suffered from Obamacare.

If you talk to Volkman about it, he's very, very vocal about it. Very upset. Vocal as he can be, yeah. Yeah, I don't, you know what, man? There's not enough shit and not enough time, rather, in the world to pay attention to everything.

And when you're paying attention to things that, like, you know, Obamacare, if you want to really go through how it affects all these doctors, you'll just probably go crazy

and start feeling sad for all these people that got fucked over. Look up how long, how big the bill was. The initial bill, I think, was 2,400 pages. 2,400 pages?

Who's going to read that? Nobody. Nobody read it. Isn't that part of the problem? I think two people, two journalists read it, and they broke it down. And I tried to read that, and it was hard. Geez. Think about that gig. Not so fun. No. Definitely not like doing a podcast. No. They probably didn't get paid much for that.

Yeah, they probably got on a secret FBI list, too. They probably didn't smoke weed and drink wine with their friends. No, they did it. They read the whole thing, broke it down. I read that and I read it again and I still didn't really understand it. You read their summary? I read the summary. How long was their summary?

It was long enough. No, it was long enough for me to be terribly bored. So what are they essentially, what is the main beef? Is that it makes employers spend more money on insurance for their employees? No, because you can opt out. You can get people. I know that I've talked to business owners about...

So you can give them an option, I guess. You can say you can... So in other words, if you're a full-time employee, I have to pay all of your insurance. Okay? So one of the side effects is that companies will say, well, if it means I have to hire you for 40 – if 40 hours a week or 30 hours a week is full-time, I'm going to hire you for 18 hours a week and hire somebody else for nine hours a week. So both of you guys have to work part time. So what does that do to the busboy or guys like that?

They really need that full time work. Right. So now they can only work part time because the company can't afford to hire them full time because they need to have, there's some kind of a mandate. Either he's got to pay a $2,000 something fine in not paying his healthcare or he's got to pay for his healthcare. So there are certain mandated things. And the problem, I don't know enough about it and i don't want to i think it has that's that's right though b because i know people who are affected by that yeah and i know

people who need it and they're and they're about 20 million people that are on it now or something crazy uh and and they benefit from it so you know it's it's it's a tough issue but so who's benefiting from it the people that drafted it, it's a tough issue. So who's benefiting from it? The people that drafted it were probably not very business savvy. They were probably bureaucrats and not necessarily small business. They didn't realize they were going to take advantage of some of the rules. Right. That someone would figure out a loophole. So who does benefit from it? People who can't afford health care, people who get a condition, for example, and then the insurance company drops them. You know know there are a lot of

people that had health care they get a very serious illness and they get dropped and then then they say if you really want health care now try getting health care when you've got a life-threatening disease so so it does help a lot of people the problem is once again who pays for it and um oh how do you get doctors to do it and there's all kinds of things but then again you know the what is that what do you think is the solution as a civilized society do you think that everybody should have health care personally i do i get more that way as i get older however i also think one of the culprits is a lack of competition among states and the reason for that is this.

So you're not really able to shop for insurance across state lines. Why? Because insurance companies basically have their territory that they all agree not to encroach upon. Okay? So that's another part. They just agree to it? Yeah. They all agree, right?

This is my garbage route. That's your garbage route. Don't mess with my business. I won't mess with your business. What we need to do is have competition. One of the ideas is to have competition among all the insurance companies. And to the lowest bidder goes the spoils. So now if I can't get insurance in California, maybe somebody in Hawaii, maybe somebody in Tennessee is offering insurance for less.

We're missing a real good fight right here. Yeah, we are. In the UK, don't they get free health insurance? Yes, they do. I heard it sucks for them. Yes, it does. Because if something goes wrong, they have to wait like for fucking ever to get seen.

Not only that, look at the innovation, the innovation in healthcare. The innovation in new drugs and all that is here in this country. It's the same issue with Canada. Some people tell you it's awesome, they have free healthcare, but I've had friends that had surgery up there by subpar doctors, and they've had to go in second and third time to fix things.

Or they have to wait nine months before they get their operation. That's the big thing, the wait. So a lot of them that have money wind up coming to America to get surgery from American surgeons, but I don't know. But also the innovation in medical technology, Most of it happens in this country, and the theory is because there's more profit to be made. Yeah, well, that's where innovation gives birth. Yes.

I mean, they have to have incentive in order to spend money. In order to come up with things like this, whoa, this is a good fucking fight, man. Real veteran scrap. I'm amazed at how good Saunders is looking on the outside, like able to slide in and out using his reach. I'm more impressed with Korda, how he's just making a dog fight. Every fight he fights in is a dog fight.

True. That guy's a beast. Didn't he like die from meth or some shit and then came back? Yeah, from some drug. Heroin or something? Something like that. He was homeless too, I think. Yeah, he's been to the other side.

We call it the dark side. Yeah. Him and Matt Brown both have that similar quality. I spoke to him for a while one time and he's such a smart, nice guy. He's such a sweetheart. He's such a fucking nice guy. Smart dude, too.

He struck me as very intelligent. Yeah, when he gets out of this, he's going to do well for himself in life with whatever he chooses to do. I hope he doesn't wait too long to get out. And Ben Saunders is a really nice guy. We had dinner with him that time. Great guy.

Really good guy. He's been on The Companion. And Eddie's there with him right now. That's why Eddie's not here. Eddie's right there in this corner. That's Eddie. Right below him. He's well, remember Tower 7?

Chem Trails. Remember. Tell him about Pizzagate right now. He's worked with Ben extensively, especially on his guard. Ben's guard is wicked. Ben's the only guy to ever get a normal plata in the UFC. And his guard is fucking super high level.

And he's also got the perfect build for it because he's so long and tall. And he spends a lot of time with Eddie. I wonder if 70 is too much of a cut from where Diminition returns. He's so fucking big. No, no, he's okay. He's okay at 70. You know, we joke around about eddie but eddie's my boy and he's like we fucking legitimately one of the very best jujitsu

instructors on the planet yeah he's amazing i don't think anyone gets that twisted do they well they do sometimes because they they hear the conspiracy theory talk and they just sort of dismiss everything that's but people love to do that. You know, like, Eddie loves conspiracies. That's his shit, you know. That's what he's into. Who gives a fuck? His jiu-jitsu's top notch. Yeah.

Top notch. He's one of the best professors in the world. His gym's all over. He's a super successful guy. But he's not teaching jiu-jitsu. His innovation, too. What's this hot-looking Japanese girl doing? What's this commercial?

Oh, she's leaving him. Oh, shit. She's going to Black Guy's house. Hey! Oh. Marvin Eastman's waiting on the other side. You went old school. Marvin Eastman. Marvin Eastman was a tank. He really was a tanky tank.

Maybe Bobby Lashley's texting her right there. Oh my god. Speaking of tanks. God. Bobby Lashley's texting her right there. Oh, my God. Speaking of tanks, good God. Bobby Lashley's ridiculous. He's just huge. Yeah. You know who's ridiculous? He's fighting soon. It's Francis Nganou.

He's fighting Orlovsky, right? Yeah. His first big test. Where is he fighting Orlovsky? Is that Brooklyn? In the Congo. Is that Brooklyn? That's where he's fighting.

They're fighting over the last bottle of malaria medication. Yeah, they're going to airdrop in the middle In the Congo. That's racist. They're going to fight over the last bottle of malaria medication. Yeah, they're going to airdrop in the middle of the Congo. It's definitely not Congo, and it's not Brooklyn, because that would be a great fucking card to be on. Where is that? Why not put them on there? They should put them on there, but I think they're headlining a card. Then it's fight pass, huh?

I think it's a fight pass. Oh, God damn it. Oh, it's in Denver? Why would they put heavyweights in Denver? Oh, in Denver. It's on Fox. See, that's how you know Joe Silva's gone, because after Mark Hunt fought Ben Rothwell, I asked for a fight in Denver.

He goes, we will never let heavyweights fight in Denver again. Oh, that's hilarious. Just because guys can't deal with the thinness of the air. Did you see Ben Rothwell, Mark Hunt? Yeah. Oof. Too exhausted. They gas out hard.

Meanwhile, then they have fucking Kane versus Verdum in Mexico City, which is 2,000 feet above fucking Denver. See, I don't think that's our boy Joe Silva doing that. He knows better. What, Mexico City? Yes. Yeah. The new guy's like, ah, they'll figure it out.

No, but Mexico City was while Joe Silva was there. Damn, Sam Alvey and Nick Marquardt. I know, but he doesn't make the title fights. Oh, that's right. You know what I'm saying? Okay. That's crazy to put in there. Nate, Sam.

So this is funny. Nate was Sam's coach on Ultimate Fighter. Like they were training partners and his coach. You know, guys sleep on Nate, you know, which is interesting. Like C.B. Dalloway went chasing after Nate like Nate's done. And Nate uncorked one on him and knocked him out cold. I mean, he's on the back nine for sure.

For sure. We're walking him out to the pad now. One of the greats though. But you can't fuck around. His nickname's The Great. He's still a powerhouse. Yeah, power's the last thing to go. Last thing to go.

And he still knows how to fight. He's a super vet. He's been fighting since he was 17. 17 years old. So crazy. I was just with Eve Edwards, who started fighting when he was 17. Eve was at our show, right? Yeah.

Eve is remarkably well composed. Oh, yeah. He's so smart. He's doing stunts now. Stunts? For movies? That's a, yeah. He's so smart. He's doing stunts now. Stunts for movies? That's a dangerous gig. Not really. Yeah, someone died on a Steven Seagal movie, dude.

Stunt? That's all you need to know. No, being a stuntman is super dangerous. Yeah, super dangerous. Your friend Karen. Yeah. Depends on the show, though. You can do TV and you're like, you're running through sugar glass and stuff.

Some of it's cushy. Like, the Goldbergs doesn't have a lot of big stunts, you know. You have stunt guys on your show? Yeah. You have little black guys? For falls, for wrestling, you know, all that kind of stuff. Hey, man, what's going on with your show? Are you doing a pilot?

Yeah. Are you doing a spinoff from the Goldbergs? I'm doing a spinoff starting in March, I think. That's beautiful, man. Congratulations. Thanks, buddy. Are you excited about that? I am excited about it.

You going to do table reads all that, Jeff? All that stuff. It's the greatest job ever. It's the that stuff. It's the greatest job ever. It's the easiest job. It's the best job ever. Let me come on and play your retarded brother. I would love it. I want to do it, man.

Dude, they'd have you on. Dude, come on, man. You would do it, Joe? Yeah, he played my brother on his radio. I own one. Oh, I love it. Him and Nick DiPaolo and Epstein from Welcome Back Hotter. They were my brothers.

Yep. They all beat the fuck out of me. They threw me through a place glass window. That's funny. I had to throw myself Through one of those Sugar glass windows It's freaky man Really?

It looks like a real window Are you scared a little bit? I was a little nervous I bet You had such a great time On that show didn't you? So much fun Yeah

Do you stay in touch With any of those guys? Just Dave Mostly Dave Foley How's Dave doing? And Steven Root If I see him And Candy

I've seen Candy since It's always great When I run into him Damn Oh Phil Hartman And that's Callan right there That's me buddy Callan and me If I see him in Candy, I've seen Candy since. It's always great when I run into him. Damn. Oh, Phil Hartman. And that's Callan right there? That's me, buddy.

Callan and me. You got a head on you there, Callan. I have a head. He threw me through a window. Or did Nick? One of you guys threw me through a window. It was so much fun. Do you miss acting at all, Joe?

No. Nothing about it? Nope. Not at all. Not a thing. It takes too much time. I'm not into doing it. It's... You do it with actors, which is never

the best thing to do. The actors on your show were so good. They were great. Phil Hartman. That's part of the reason. Ben Saunders went for that leg, but didn't quite get to it quick enough. This is super dangerous for court, even though there's not much time left. And I feel like he's winning the fight.

I wouldn't mess with it. I don't know about that. I think Ben is winning the stand-up, but he's on top right here, so we'll see. I don't know. Okay, see, here it is. Dangerous. Here's the wrap-up. Here's the wrap-up. Look at this. Let's see. Oh, wow. Court shook it off quick. Ben went for the transition. He went for the transition to clear the neck. Maybe a honey lamb chop and put a little

wine in there. Maybe a little honey lamb chop. Honey lamb chop. Maybe a little humming lamb chop. I wonder who's winning this fight, since we weren't really paying total attention. See, I have Court winning it. Good ground and pound here. See, Ben had that position, man, for a very short period. Okay, now he's wrapping it up again. Let's see what he can do.

But it's not high enough. Okay, now it's better. Oh, my God. What is that now? This is called the dead orchard. He's got both arms trapped. Long legs. Both arms trapped inside the triangle. This is named after Nathan Orchard. This is called the dead orchard. He's got both arms trapped. Long legs. Both arms trapped inside the triangle.

This is named after Nathan Orchard. This is called the dead orchard. Oh, yeah, Nathan Orchard's a killer. But the problem is, can he submit from here? Because a lot of times, like, he's had guys stuck in here, like Kenny Roberts. He had him stuck in here, but he couldn't finish him. It's going to be tough to finish Court McGee out of this. It's not going to finish him now.

He's on the foot. See how he's on the toes on the back of the calf? You really want to get deep in on the ankle on this and even so it's just it's not there for him. He doesn't have much time to work here. He's now it's totally gone. He can do damage there with elbows, but you're not gonna win the fight. Oh man and Court drops some elbows on him. Court just cut him. Oh man, yeah Court's on top of him, and he's tired now, too. You know, I think he's going to try to switch to a leg. He's in half guard here. He's going to try.

So Court just dropped that elbow on him. He's going to try to go. He's going to try to go to the underhook on that left leg and slide under. But in the meantime, he's taking some shots. Court's trying to darse him up. He is. And with guys who are long, it's easier to get when they're long. Does that make sense?

So they're really good at them, but they're also easier to get caught. Yep, you're totally right. Damn, Court's doing work. Yeah, big finish to the fight for Court. Court is such a warrior, man. Every fight's just, it's never easy for him, is it? It's just a scrap. That's what he likes.

Interesting, man. Very interesting. He looks like an Islamic cleric. I wish we were paying more attention. Me too. That's what he likes Yeah Interesting man Very interesting I mean He looks like an Islamic cleric I wish we were paying more attention Me too In the 30 seconds I saw I'd probably give it to Court

With aggression And then the takedown at the end I don't know man Because I think like Ben was winning on the outside Earlier in the fight Interesting But that round

That last round Was big for Court That was the most we watched So I kind of gave it to Court It's kind of gave it to court. It's kind of what we do here. We're fucking terrible. Or you, me, and Eddie would be arguing

and Brian's watching and Brian would drop some serious knowledge and we just discredit it. Well, shut up. You're not watching either. And he's spot on. I get nothing.

I get nothing. I'm watching every beat and I'm like that and you're like, shut up. No, he didn't. What did I do? What the fuck were we just talking about before that? Any idea?

Yeah, we're talking It's tough to get we need a court stenographer in here. I know pull up records. It's true in Millie's I Want to start taking a pistol class? Fucking do it. What do you want to do? Oh, we were talking about acting. I just got to be ready. I wanted you to get back into acting. Oh, my spinoff. We were talking about my spinoff.

No, I'll do Brian's show. Last thing I did was Kevin James movie because Kevin's my buddy. I heard you were good in that, though. It's fun. It's fun. I want you to do my, it'd be great. You come on my show. Brandon, let me look at you.

You're not ready. I loved it because I got to work with Leslie Bibb from Talladega Nights. Oh, yeah. Which one's that? She's the girlfriend. Oh, she's the girl? Talladega Nights? Oh, she's hilarious.

Oh, dude. She's like, and you're going to get on that car. You're going to ride it like a pony. She's fucking hilarious in real life. In real life, like hanging out and talking to her. She's hilarious. She's so fucking silly she's really silly really smart your boy kevin has a new show out he's back to acting he's like a straight up

series and he did a movie on netflix he's a new movie on netflix and now he's doing a series on cbs that apparently is doing really well kevin's an excellent actor man he's really good at that he never misses he's a he's a really good classic sitcom actor. He knows how to do that. In that form, he's a master. I fucking loved him in, what's the movie, Will Smith? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Will Smith was like the dating advice guy.

What's that called? Hutch. Hitch. Hitch. Dude, one of my favorite movies. I thought he was great in that. How do you spell Leslie's last name? Bibb.

B-I-B-B. B-I-B-B, right. Okay. Ben Saunders, winner by decision. We're wrong. Wow. Wow thought he was great in that. How do you spell Leslie's last name? Bibb? B-I-B-B. B-I-B-B. Right. Okay. Ben Saunders, winner by decision. We're wrong. Wow. Wow. That was a earned win.

Good job, Ben. Earned win. I was off. I apologize. Yeah, I felt like he was winning the stand-ups, particularly in the first and second round. He looked good on the outside. Swollen him out the eyes there. I heard Kevin James was a beast of a comic, too. Oh, yeah.

Oh, he's hilarious. Great comic. Very good stand up Does he still do it? Sort of He takes a lot of time off And then he'll go and do like theaters Tours and does theaters and shit Since he's a veteran

He doesn't have to do a lot of spots He can just go to those theaters He can always do those theaters if he wants to But honestly In order to really be on top of your game You gotta do the clubs. Night after night. Yeah, it's like, I mean, it's not that he's not going to be great

and he's going to rehearse and he's going to go through all of his stuff, and if he does a few of those in a row, he'll get right back into shape again. But the thing about stand-up is in order to be like, you go out of shape if you take a week off. That's true. A week. Rhythm. Timing, everything.

Dude, and sometimes for me, where I get scrambled is I'll do a UFC on the weekend, and then I'll work on Sunday night or work the night after the UFC, whatever it is, and I'm scrambled because my brain is still in MMA mode. Yeah. It's like commentary mode. In order to be in the groove, if you're doing a big show on Saturday night, ideally you want to work, like, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, maybe Friday, too. And then gear up for Saturday. You know, it's like you got to tune up.

You got to keep sharp. And when I do a lot of sets, like, I'll do, like, three sets on a Wednesday, three sets on a Thursday. I come into Friday, I'm just loose. It's all in the groove. And you feel it. You come into Friday, I'm just loose. It's all in the groove, and you feel it. You feel efficient. It's kind of like on a Thursday, when you haven't done stand-up in a while,

Thursday on the road, and by Saturday, you've done five shows, five hours of comedy. You're just... Yeah. Well, B, that's why you told me to start doing some stand-up, because we would do live Finding the Kid at theaters. We'd start with 10 minutes of stand-up I'm like yeah I can't go one month there take three months off and go literally this theater I gotta start doing some shit man in between yeah yeah yeah there's no substitute

for actually going on stage and for you it'll be fun anyway man just do open mic nights and all these bullshit spots and do it's good with five minutes and seven minutes what I'm encouraged with Brennan is that he just changes it every time. Like he's always writing. He's always carving it, changing it, taking out words, adding things. Look at that sexy bitch. This fight right here. I was talking about me by the way. I find

Holly's not her. That would be so rude. That would be so rude. I was talking about myself. This is a weird fight man. Are they really trying to sell this right now? Well yeah. It's one of those things where Literally no one's talking about it I mean this is like maybe one of the least hyped up World championship fights In recent memory

I feel like maybe Dana was on vacation And came back like you booked what? Well I just don't know what else they can do I mean you have this fight At 145 you're trying to book Cyborg Cyborg keeps canceling. Then they test her. She pisses hot.

Now you're fucked. Because now she's out forever. Then you stack the rest of the card and just toss these two on. Well, they didn't have the fights. They literally didn't have the fights. They didn't have the fighters available. They didn't know what to do. And this is a fucking...

If you want to make a star out of Holly Holm, wrong fight. Correct. Wrong fight. Correct. Wrong fight. Correct. Because Jermaine Durandamy is a fucking nasty kickboxer and a real legit multiple-time world Muay Thai champion. And when she's presented with someone like Holm, who is an excellent striker,

I think 18-time world boxing champion or something crazy like that, you know that Holly Holm is going to be striking with her. Well, that is where Jermaine Durandamy shines. Her number one issue in MMA has just been girls holding on to her, taking her down, using their grappling. It's not Holly. Holly can do that to girls, but that's also how she lost her title. She got choked out.

It's not her thing either. It's not her thing. So like we saw in the Valentina Shevchenko fight was when Holly fights, like Valentina is one of the best, super high level, most technical strikers in women's MMA. And she kept using that check right hook and she was kicking her a lot, working the legs a lot, and she just beat her by a clear cut unanimous decision. So I feel like this is a super dangerous

fight for Holm. She's lost two in a row for the first time in her career. She gets choked out by Misha, and then she loses her next fight against Valentina Shevchenko. So I feel like this is a real dangerous fight for her. She made a tough sell if she loses this one. Super tough sell. Three in a row?

And she's the girl who knocked out Ronda Rousey. I mean, that's her main claim to fame is that highlight reel left high kick. She's the first one to do it. I mean, it's pretty. Well, she was D1, right? It's time in history. Yeah, she outclassed her. How crazy are these fights?

Look at me. What do you have here? You have Jacare versus Tim Boach. What? Who saw that coming? How weird. I mean, Tim Boach just knocks out, what's his face? Rafael Natal.

That's right. Yeah. I mean, huge fight for him. I mean, Rafael Natal, I think, was number six, and Boach knocked him out. So, look, Boach jumps into the top ten with that. Boach just will not go away. But for Jacare, it's got to be pissing him off, because he's been knocking at the fucking door for a title forever.

That's crazy. And now, and then, yeah, that's true. He's just waiting. Romero beats him by a small amount, but then pisses hot. Remember? So they suspend Yoel Romero. Romero comes back, smashes Chris Weidman. Smashes Chris Weidman.

So he gets the title shot. Meanwhile, Jacare's got to be like, what in the fuck, man? I'm sitting here while Bisping fights Henderson. You know, I thought I was gonna be next. Bisping gets Henderson. He beats Henderson. Now Bisping's gonna fight Yoel. Jacare's the most dangerous, besides Yoel, he's the second most

dangerous, I mean, you know, I think he'll beat... He's phenomenal. I think he beats almost anybody. Yeah, poor Jacare. Well, he's really good, but you know what? Yoel caught him with that wicked spinning back fist. I want to see Sousa fight Luke Rockhold again. I want to see what happens.

Well, they almost did, but Luke fucked his knee up. Yeah, they were supposed to fight in Australia. I think Luke had a... Did he have surgery? Did he just do like PRP injections or some shit? I'm not sure. He's training again, I think. He's had a seriously fucked up knee for a while. Even though he's training now,

like he's kicking with his right knee only, I think. How old is Neil Siri there? Is he about? 58? Yeah, he's about 58. He's a weathered 58, too. Well, listen, no one's had more fucking miles on their body than our boy Ian.

Yeah, Ian's had his hands. Ian McCall can't even make a fist. He can't make a fist. When you can't make a fist. Dude, if you haven't seen him, Brian, he makes a fist. His index finger on his right hand is like that. And what I'm doing for people that are listening here is like if I was playing pool and I had a cue tucked under my finger. Yeah, like I'm pulling a trigger.

He can't make a full fist. His hand's been broken so many times. He's such a little monster, too. Travis Brown and Derek Lewis is on that card. That's an interesting fight for Travis. Ooh, Dustin Poirier, Jim Miller's on that card. Ooh. Is Travis, Eve is actually down there getting Dustin ready for that fight.

Is Travis Brown still in Edmunds camp? I don't know. I don't know. I assume so. Yeah, I assume so, too. Has anybody heard from Rhonda, or has she still been radio silent? She posted an inspirational quote on Instagram. A Harry Potter quote, right?

Yeah, which is awesome. Was it a Harry Potter quote? J.K. Rawlings? Is that what it was? Yeah, a J.K. Rawlings quote, which is, Even Rock Bottom has wiggle room. That's a quote from what's-his-name? What's-our-boy? That's a great quote. Even Rock Bottom has wiggle room. That's a quote from what's-his-name? What's our boy?

That's a great quote. Even Rock Bottom has wiggle room. That's hilarious. What's our boy? Dom. Dom Herrera. Yes. We had dinner that night.

I was texting you. He said, even Rock Bottom has wiggle room, son. I went, that's fucking hilarious. Hey, you've got to start coming out to dinner. We were at Bianconi, the best restaurant on the planet. Brian goes there every night. You need to come. It's the best restaurant. Listen, I go to start coming out to dinner. We were at Bianconi, the best restaurant on the planet. Brian goes there every night. You need to come. It's the best restaurant.

Listen, I go home. I get some sleep. I go work out in the morning. Look at me. You can come hang and have an amazing meal for an hour with us. I'm with Joe on this one. Or I can go home and go to sleep. It's unbelievable.

You're going out on a Thursday night at midnight. So what? I was not. I was out at 11. You could have come out. Every night. Well, I was doing sets every night. I get up in the morning, buddy.

Yeah, I don't like my mornings to be fucked, man. I go to yoga. Whatever. I come out to dinner once in a while. I actually do go to yoga. I know you say you do, but I really do. You do, huh? I really do.

I see your girl posts on your yoga teacher. You guys take pictures and shit with your shirt off, right? Because on the popular page, usually. She looks like a good yoga teacher. Joe's super flexible, so. I think that yoga is one of the most important things

I've done over the past few years I really do it's making a giant difference I try to do it three times a week now

giant difference in regards to what the way I feel relaxation flexibility I'm down I mean I'm back to a full split

with no like no strain at all I can just drop right now are you doing hot yoga? Yes. That shit stresses me out, man. It's hard to do. It's not very relaxing. It's not relaxing. It's brutal. Yeah, it's brutal. When you're done

though, you feel great. I mean, I like it. Yeah. I can't stop sweating. My favorite thing right now is to fucking torture myself for 90 minutes, hot yoga, and then go right into a cold shower. Because right now, it's January, so the water's really fucking cold. So you're going there, you're hurting, like barely getting through, like the last's really fucking cold. So you're going there, you're hurting, like barely getting through. Like the last 10 minutes of a hot yoga class.

You're doing Bikram? Yeah. Like you barely can make it through. It's so intense. You ever fucked up and thought it was 60, but it was 90? It'll ruin your fucking week. Yeah, I haven't. Where you're like, dear God, 45 minutes, let's go, 15.

Meanwhile, it's another half an hour. Dude. Yeah. I took some great- I love it. What is this Cody Garbrandt Is it the snakes Oh wow Who made that

Oh man God dog That is sick He should sell those for shirts Fuck your Reebok money Sell posters Shirts all day Do you know who that's signifying

You know what God everybody Come on guys Medusa Medusa Damn right Medusa What happens when you stare at Medusa? She turns you to stone. What's fucked up, man,

is that Conor McGregor is the one... Conor McGregor called him a snake and it's never let off. Never. Ever. Conor says he's a fucking snake and everybody was like, what? Stamp. They just stamped his forehead with that stamp. There's nothing about TJ that

made no sense when I heard him say that. Because he left the camp. Team Alpha Male was his brothers, and he left that camp. And he went with Dwayne Ludwig, and he went to Muscle Farm. And they were like, fuck you. You know, look, they needed a bad guy. They knew at that point. Well, it's not.

Listen, his loyalty was to his own future. And he felt like his best chance to get better was not with Team Alpha Male. Clearly the right choice for a champion. He felt like his choice was to go with Dwayne Ludwig because he felt like Dwayne Ludwig had a bond with him and a deep, deep, deep pool of knowledge, and together they gelled well. It was the right move.

It was the right move for him maybe. He became world champ. But how close was he really to those guys? See here's the thing man it's like you can't work this out there's not a way to work it out where you're still with Team Alpha Male. I don't know. Listen I'm just playing devil's advocate. I'm a huge

Dwayne fan. For a while he would go back to Alpha Male and then go to Dwayne. I'm a huge Dwayne fan and I'm a huge TJ fan but I'm also a'm a huge TJ fan, but I'm also a huge alpha male fan, and I'm also a huge fan of loyalty. It's also not a team sport, though. It's not a team sport, and that's where it gets weird. Super weird. Super weird.

I mean, if there's another guy that's in 135, like Cody, who's coming up, coming up hot. And clearly coming up. Coming up hot, knocking everybody deadmashing Thomas Almeida. Knocking on the door and then Wandsup winning the title in his first attempt. The first guy to fucking beat the shit out of Dominic Cruz like that. I mean the only guy that beat Dominic Cruz before was Uriah and Uriah caught him

in a guillotine. He didn't beat the shit out of him. No. Just caught him. I would say at that weight class with M&A being with the margin for error, if your priority is loyalty, which I'm a huge fan of loyalty, over a guru that could improve and change your style, then you're going to get left behind. There's no mercy in this sport. You're right. No, you're right.

There's no mercy. You're right. You're right. I'm not arguing with you. Don't say no mercy again, though. I like saying it. Did you say no mercy? Is that a movie?

So dramatic. There is no mercy. You said it twice, though. You're 100% right. But there's no mercy again, though. I like saying it. Did you say no mercy? Is that a movie? So dramatic. There is no mercy. You said it twice, though. You're 100% right. But there's no mercy. But there's also brotherhood and friendship. And I feel like there's almost always a way to do things different. And I don't know if they did the right thing.

I don't know what happened. I wasn't there. Right. But here's my point. Results are the- It's fascinating in terms are the it's fascinating in terms of the matchup now

and now that they're gonna I think it's a giant move to do that on the Ultimate Fighter it's fucking huge because it might be the one thing that gets a lot of

hardcore fans even though they're cutting the budget are they cutting the budget? how do you know this? are you deep inside? I just know on Ultimate Fighter

they are? yes they're cutting the budget. How so? Correct. Who are they not paying as much? There's the whole production thing because the UFC used to do it. Now they're going to outsource.

Well, it might be better. It could be better. Get people who are trying to make a name for themselves. You fucking never know, man. All I know is lately those when they do the matchups from Ultimate Fighter fighter usually it does it doesn't build it for me as much tell you what man not a whole lot of shit makes me feel bad these goddamn poverty commercials they make me feel worse than anything in the world you know what i see people like little kids i agree if they show kids or you know what fucks me up even more when they show the

animals for whatever reason tugs at my heart more than humans. Oh, you got a problem. You should go to a doctor There's I hate to see that I hate to see that but I hate more to see little kids Singing behind it. Yeah Same guys for you. Ten for you. What did he say? What did you say? Alanis Morissette. Alanis Morissette?

What does she sing? Well, it's girls with great voices that Brian Callen would fuck. Don't you think? I put him in that category. Girls who are just really kind of rooted. Girls who Brian Callen would have like a six-month intense relationship with before she fucking changed her number. Earth mothers who are really grounded.

Earth mothers. Earth mothers. You're saying Sarah McLachlan sings that, right? Did she say that already? The arms of an angel. God, they get my fucking money. She'd have like little beads around her ankle with like some strings, some twine, some hemp twine. I was driving down. She had some good red flags.

Good red flags for sure. Marcin Hell, Joe Lozon. Damn, he's young. About to driving down heat. He had some good red flags. Good red flags for sure. Marcin Held, Joe Lozon. Damn, he's young. About to get fired up. Yeah, man. Now, he came from Bellator, correct? Correct. Had a lot of fights in Bellator.

Did he win the title in Bellator? I don't think so. I don't think he was the champ in Bellator. Is that right, Jamie? Only 24, huh? Joe Lozon has had some motherfucking battles. I almost said he's got a nice body out loud. So he lost to Diego in his last fight.

Before that, he beat Dave Jensen and Bellator. But he lost to Will Brooks. Okay, so he lost his title to Will Brooks. Lost a title fight, rather, to Will Brooks. Five-round fight. Does Bellator have any other five-round fights other than title fights? No. They don't, right?

Never. So that was his first loss since way back in 2013 when he fought Dave Jensen. So he beat Dave Jensen in his last Bellator fight. So he lost to him and then he beat him in his last fight. But no title fights, right? One fight against Will Brooks. That he didn't get, right? Will Brooks beat him. Will Brooks is a little horse.

He's a tough guy. Who stopped Will Brooks? Somebody stopped Will Brooks in the UFC. Why are you laughing? He hurt his rib. But he was looking good. Who beat him? Someone big. Cowboy. Oliveira. Yes. He missed weight.

Beat him, but he missed weight. It was like, fuck it! We already got all mad. He grabbed the mic, got mad. He was talking shit at Wayne. Bro, you missed it by 40 pounds. You shouldn't even be allowed to fight. What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, he missed weight by, it might have been like eight pounds.

It was a good amount, and he just said, fuck it. I wouldn't miss weight by it, Jamie. I want to say it was like 12. Okay, here's Joe Lozon, powerful Boston. He's got a lot of Savage in him. And Marcin Held. Real interesting fight. Let's see how this goes.

Please just jump to guard, both of you. Well, here's the thing about Held. I don't think Held has the same kind of boxing that Lozon has. Lozon's very sharp with his stand-up. I wouldn't call it sharp because he does that shell-up, and I feel like especially elite strikers are starting to figure it out. Diego Sanchez, his last fight. And then before that, remember that Melvin Gillard fight?

Cracked Melvin with a jab and then choked him the fuck out because Melvin got a little—well, Melvin was fucking people up back then. And Melvin's lightning fast. Wild. Wild card. Wild cat. Yeah, who knows, like with Melvin. He was one of the first guys to test positive for cocaine.

I was like, holla! My man! My man! Here's the thing about cocaine. That shit only stays in your system for like two days. It's also like no shit. And it was post-UFC fight. 5.5s over.

That's what Oliveira was. 5.5 pounds over when he fought Will Brooks. Then he came in. Ooh. Yeah, that should be illegal. Held you tore up. In some states, they wouldn't allow that. Like, I don't think New York would have allowed that.

New York straight. Oh, hard elbows by Lozon. These are fucking nasty elbows by Lozon. Marcin Held's in big trouble here. Ooh, mount, son. Big. Oh, he's got the arm. Oh, and he went for it.

He went for it. Aggressive. He still got it. He still got the arm. He still got the arm. Oh, wow. Now Held's got the leg. Oh, damn.

Lozon with a fucking vicious elbow. He's trying to get that performance on the night bones and be the all-time leader. Those are the Travis Brown elbows, man. Those elbows from that single. You're talking about that old Travis. Yeah. Those were nasty. Not the single, rather, but the wide stance, the takedown defense.

Yes. Josh Barnett, Gonzaga. Yes, Gonzaga, man. So nasty. Horrible. Travis Brown, man, used to fuck people up at those elbows. Sure did. He changed that position for a lot of people.

Yep. And Joe Lozon just took a page out of his book. It's still illegal to go from 12 to 6, right? Yeah. I don't understand how that didn't get changed. I really don't understand it. I understand that they wanted to change a right? Yeah, I don't understand how that didn't get changed. I really don't understand it. I understand that they wanted to change a bunch of shit and I think they did a good job with

most of it. Someone made a real good point though about the new rules about how many points of contact you have on the ground. Three now, yeah? Yeah. So if you have three, it's legal. So if you have two feet on the ground and a hand on the ground, it's legal.

But here's the thing, man. Did you see that? You saw the Tim Means fight with Oliveira. Same guy, Oliveira, who came in overweight. That was his karma. God damn it. That's what you get, son. Enjoy that.

He had one knee down. One knee down. Look at this. And only one knee down. Beautiful takedown Look at this. And only one knee down. Beautiful takedown by Marcin. Strong grappling by Marcin. Nice, Marcin. But Joe Lozon, very good at getting back up, too, man.

This could be interesting. Marcin turns him around from the cage. Marcin's definitely more decorated when it comes to jiu-jitsu. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. But again, MMA jiu-jitsu's a little different. Lozon's a monster. Right.

And Lozon has already cracked him with a few elbows. So we'll see where Marcin's head's at now. I Lozan has already cracked him with a few elbows. So we'll see where Marcin's head's at now. Who knows where he's at right now? He might be on 80%. They've also given Marcin no gimmies. They said, oh, you're from Bellator? That's cool. Who'd they give him last time? Diego Sanchez.

He lost to Diego. And then in Lozan's last fight, he stopped Diego. What were we just talking about? What were we just talking about? We were just talking about... Oh, we were talking about Tim Means in Cowboy. Oh, yeah. The Brazilian Cowboy.

So the knee on the ground, it was only the knee. Even his foot was off the ground. And the knee was still illegal. So you can't have... It's not points of contact, even though we always refer to it as points of contact. John McCarthy told me that's a bad terminology. He said you should really think of it as anything other than the bottom of the foot is illegal. So that, I don't know about that though.

Like what about the top of the foot? Like what if you only have the top of the foot down? God, some glade areas. Look at this. Look at those coming out. I think they're saying though that anything other than the bottom of the foot. I think they're saying though that anything other than the bottom of the foot. So the thing is, what if a guy is shooting in on a takedown?

Like Cyborg versus Michael Page. And someone catches you with a knee coming in while you have one knee down. You know, you're sliding in and you get thumped in the face and knocked unconscious. Well, that's the same as if you get wheel kicked behind the ear, right? You're moving into it, which is shit happens. Maybe it's a shit happens rule. Well, transition rule. Right, right, right. Like, don't be an idiot and cut with a flying knee.

Good defense right there by Lozano on the break. Knew that hook was coming, that right hand was coming, rather, and got that left hand up. I loved when they were grappling. Yeah. High level shit. Really interesting. I don't want to see hell throw jabs. It's called a fake with the left guys, and then he came in with the right.

It's one of my favorite things to do. What are you talking about? It's something I do in street fighting. I go 12 to 6 in street fighting, just so you guys know. What do you think? How much different would MMA be if they had three-minute rounds? I think you get a watered-down product. Do you get a watered-down product do you get a watered-down product or do you get more explosive and faster paced

faster pace worse technique is that true like what about five three minute rounds oh he fell down oh shit what happened there but look at that he went for an arm bar oh on the break that was weird what. What happened there? Five threes, you're thinking? Yeah, five three-minute rounds instead of three five-minute rounds. Do you think that that would be better for like... Chael Sonnen said it best. He said, it's just too much time for people to fight. It's like five five-minute rounds.

He goes, no one can fight. 25 minutes? Yeah, he goes, no one can really fight five five-minute rounds. Well, it's coming from a guy who lost to Anderson Silva with two minutes left and 23 minutes to go. It's also coming from a guy who fought a bunch of five-round fights. He fought against Paulo Filho, right? Didn't he fight twice? Those weren't five minutes, were they?

Although it was for the belt, WC. That's right. At least the second one. The first one he got armbarred. Yeah. The second one he won a decision, but Filho didn't make weight, so he never got the belt. Yeah, that's right, because the belt wasn't on the line. Yeah, so he was like the uncrowned champ at 185 in the WEC.

Really got fucked, because he won that fight pretty clear. That was also when Paul Ophelia was kind of going a little cuckoo. He was going cray-cray. He was going cray-cray. Full cray-cray. Went missing in Brazil or some shit. He had that Tyson tattoo on his face. Yeah, I know that.

He found him amongst the sheep or some shit in Brazil, choking sheep out. I'm sorry. It's weird. He went full'm sorry. I just had this- It's weird. He went full AWOL. I just had this thought, and maybe your brother didn't. I was thinking about what Floyd did to Canelo Alvarez. Yeah.

And think about what Floyd- Oh, you're going back to this? Yeah. Because my brother texted you this? Yeah. And think about what he did. Jay Shaw just texted you this? That's what I just said.

Might be your brother. But I just got to- Hey, what are you thinking of the fight? You just got to announce. I just remembered that. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Canelo. Yes, Mexican on Mexican crime. May 6th, Cinco de Mayo weekend, baby.

Chavez Jr. is way tougher than he should be. He's a tough dude, man. Tougher than he should be? In other words, he grew up wealthy. His dad's fucking... But he grew up wealthy. I mean, kids like that. But his dad is Julio Cesar Chavez.

Look at this. Joe Lozon going for the guillotine, getting crafty. I see what you're saying, though, B. But it didn't work out. Marcin Harlan. He slept and sat in sheets.esar Chavez. Look at this. Joe Lozon going for the guillotine, getting crafty. I see what you're saying, though, B. But it didn't work out. Marcin Herman. He slept and sat in sheets. Yeah. Yeah.

It's rare. But you see his father at his fights. True. His father's like. BJ Penn's family's rich as fuck. Yeah. BJ Penn's family's wealthy, too. BJ just loves fighting.

Look at this. Joe Lozon is going for the fucking leg lock. Look at this. Oh, my God. He gave up the back. Ooh. Held is so high level. Can't give your back up.

What is Held's jiu-jitsu credentials? Didn't he win an Onogi world title? He won gold in super high level. Oh, look at this, man. He's wrapping up. Joe Lozon managed to keep that left arm on the outside, though. That's critical for defense. I think he's been doing jiu-jitsu since he was 12, too.

Good move in here by Joe Lozon. I like it. He's posturing up. If you get away from that left hand, he's essentially free. He's essentially free here if he just keeps going. Oh no, Marcin pulls him down. Oh, such a strong move pulling him down there.

Joe was almost out. A lot of people, like Joe Lozon, would have been out the door right there. He's almost choked here. He's in a real bad spot here. Because in order to advance in this position, he's got to move. And if he's got to move, he's got to make sure he moves his chin tightly pressed to his neck here Damn fucking sent Mike Goldberg in the crowd That's kind of weird going nuts what's up? Who's his replacement again? I don't know man

I don't know because I thought someone Oh Nicely done. Yeah, I thought they used that grizzly or gr know, because I thought someone would... Oh! Look at Joe. Nicely done. Yeah, I thought they used that Grissom. Yeah, is that true, though? No, but he was on the... He was doing the pre-show, like, in the UFC Tonight studio. Yeah, I heard he was going to do this, but Anik is on this, so maybe he's not doing that. Maybe they're wrong. Maybe they just hired him for more of that pre-show stuff.

Like, more analyst work instead of play-by-play and color. Oh, look at this! Lozon with the fucking arm triangle! Oh my god, Lozon. Lozon attacking, man. I love that about him. Even though he's fighting a real elite grappler, he's not afraid to dive on shit. Yeah, he's one of my faves to watch, man. He's just getting cut off at the checkmate

door. You know, he gets to the door and checkmate he's getting cut off. He's had a long career and some wars. He has, but I mean, also the difference is Marcin Held is a really, really high level grappler. And although Lozon is taking some chances, like when he's going for that arm bar, he gets blocked on the way up and at it. Yeah.

Bang. So they're keeping that Skip guy on the air even after he got caught tweeting to himself, huh? Yeah, how embarrassing is that? Didn't he say it was one of his assistants? He's like, you're the man, Skip. Skip, you're a fucking genius. Love the show on FS1.

I heard your hog tastes like a candy cane. I heard you're rich as fuck, man. That's awesome. Did he say somebody else was doing it for him? Like he had somebody he hired or something? I don't give a fuck what he said. No, he said nothing. He was just like, uh. I don't know what he said and I don't give a fuck what he said. No, he said nothing. He was just like, uh. I don't know what he said, and I don't give a fuck what he said. The fact that it can ever happen.

It can ever happen. That guy gets fucking brutalized online. Does he? All the time. Does he? Oh, okay. Some things can't ever happen. That's why he was like, we need some positive here.

Let's create some catfish accounts. We need some super positive energy on our side. Just from me Those old dudes man that just talk sports Fuck man that gig is hard to come by Well he was a writer Sports writer Yeah but it's just talking sports

Whether he's writing about it or not It's just talking sports Football's his thing yeah Dallas Cowboys You know there's a big difference between a guy like You know a fucking Michael Irvin Who is a world class player Who wants to talk about- Oh, look at this!

Look at this! Oh, my lord. Joe Lozon trying to snatch up an armbar from the fucking guard! And he's controlling the leg so he can't step out. Oh. Dude, this is- What?! This is fucking dangerous for Marcy.

What? What if he submitted him? Oh, he's lost it now. He's lost it. He's lost it. He doesn't- He's not nearly as close as he was just a few minutes ago. Oh, my god.

Oh, my god. No, no, no. He's out. He's out, dude. He's out. Yeah, few minutes ago. Oh, my God. No, no, no. He's out. He's out, dude. He's out. Yeah, but now he's at Omoplata. No, no, no. He's nowhere near an Omoplata. You know what I mean.

Oh, how dare you. You know what I mean. It's like a blue belt attempt. Well, he got real close in the beginning, but then you see the shift from the guard. That's when you know he can relax. They're both outstanding grapplers. My God. He was at nine.

He was at like nine out of ten, and then he went back to eight. And when you go from nine to eight, usually the other guy- At this level? Yeah. Usually the other guy gets out of it. I'm so envious of you guys. They usually get the advantage, too. I have such a knowledge of jiu-jitsu.

It's so beautiful. Well, listen, man. Anthony Bourdain didn't start training until he was 58. That could be you, Brian. You know what, dude? Fuck this spin-off. You're right, buddy. And right now, I think I'd put my money on him.

You think he would tap you? Do you think Anthony Bourdain could tap you? He's a purple belt, yeah? He got a purple belt? I thought put my money on him. You think he would tap you? You think Anthony Warden could tap you? He's a purple belt, yeah? He got a purple belt? I thought he was a purple belt. I know he's a blue belt. He would roll Callan up like fucking Kobayashi. Yeah, and he's big.

He's very big, and I never do jiu-jitsu. Yes. I don't think he's a purple belt. I think he's still a blue belt, but he trains regularly. Like, I mean, almost every day. And he's got tricks. You know what, though? Blue belt, blue belt, and he's always traveling, and he looks a little weathered.

I'll take my boy Callan here. And maybe hungover. Callan's scrappy, though. Scrappy and in shape. I don't know. You are in shape. And I mean, essentially, how much sand does this motherfucker

have left in his hourglass? That's what I'm saying. He's 60 years old. He hits the booze hard. Callan, let's set this shit up. We'll put you on the undercard of soldier boy Chris Brown. Okay, I'm ready.

You know what's interesting about Bourdain? Bourdain is essentially like, he's a guy who has had numerous substance problems in the past. Yes, heroin included. Exactly.

Alcohol too, yeah. But alcohol, you know, he doesn't drink when he's at home. I mean, he's not an alcoholic. And he's aware. Look at that. He won a fucking IBJF, JJF New York Open.

He's every bit of 6'4". Everyone that photos is 107. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, they're 89-year-old people. He's choking out. It's awesome. Just lay on top.

Ah, fuck it. That one guy's got an interesting haircut-old people. He's choking out. It's awesome. He just lay on top. Fuck it. One guy's got an interesting haircut at that age. He's awesome. Just past their broken hip. But the point is... So fucked up and went bad on him. I love him. Me too.

I love him too. But the thing is, it's like he has taken all those problems that he had, like his addictive tendencies, and now he's using them for jujitsu. He's addicted to jujitsu. A lot of those addicts go to triathlons and shit, right? Because it releases

the same endorphins. Yeah, that guy from the Cro-Mags. What's his name? John Joseph? He's a good friend of mine. One of my best friends. Is that his name? I've known John since literally I was 23 years old. One of your best friends? Yeah, I don't think he's one of your best friends, but thanks. I've never heard you talk to him. I've never talked to him once. John Joseph is... You're one of your best friends, though?

Are you serious? Because I will fucking find him and I'll bring him in never talked to him once. John Joseph is... You're one of your best friends, though? I am... Are you serious with this one? Because I will fucking find him, and I'll bring him in here. No, no. John's one of my... John's literally... Maybe one of your oldest friends. No, no, no.

No, yes, but I'm... No, no, no. You say, no, no, no, one more time, you fuck. No, John and I are close. No, you said old. Let's go old. If you asked John, I promise you, he would say... You're his best friend?

Is he in your will? We spent a lot of time together. We wrote a script together. In 1974? Me and John We wrote a script together. In 1974? Me and John Joseph wrote a script together. And in fact, I'll say how far back we go. John used to live on Ludlow and Rivington.

And John used to have to meet me on... Which is the most expensive real estate in New York. You and I have been there. And John used to have to meet me on Houston Street and walk me to his apartment. Or I would get jumped because nobody knew me in that neighborhood That was how far back we went we wrote a script together and I'll tell you Getting jumped why would you get jumped cuz no one knew you in that neighborhood? That's how dangerous jumped on Houston Street How dangerous that neighborhood was lower in in 19? I'll take exactly one in 1990 1991 it was that bad dude, you have no idea.

Sir, is this the plot of Bronxville? I walked through Tompkins Square. I met John in 1987. When I was with John, the first time I met him was 1987, and we walked through Tompkins Square Park. And it was so fucking dangerous. I couldn't believe how dangerous. And John was very much feared.

They called John in jail Mighty Whitey. What was he in jail for? Well, he did a lot of stuff. John grew up in abandoned buildings. Hey, don't be general, bro. What did he go to prison for? John used to rob. I don't want people to talk about it.

But anyway, point is, he had a problem with substances now. And now he's like this radical plant-based triathlete guy he's in the best shape in the world eats vegan food he's in his 50s he does iron man's fucking he looks amazing he's great he's a fucking animal when it comes to like conditioning and and workouts he rides his bike all over new york he sounds awesome he also does no you dismissed him best friend i know best friend though look i mean you've known Rogan for 70 years. You've known me for 10 now. I've known John longer, and I've known John.

I knew John very- When's the last time you talked to him? In fact, I have a text from John. Who do you know better, me or John? Who do you know better? You. Interesting. Nope, that's just because I spent time, but I know John very well.

Hey, bro, how many best friends? If this is my space, is he in your top 10? I'll tell you something even more important about John. Nope. Is it a nine? Isn't it a nine? Is it a nine or a nine? That's the last time I text him.

It says Merry Christmas. It says Merry Christmas. He says shut up fag. Why did he call you a fag? He's talking, he's watching, I just watched the club Swanson Doohu

Troy fight. Holy shit, amazing fight of the year. That was a while ago, bro. He said Merry Christmas especially to my mom. Okay, okay. Hey, man.

You're going a little too hard here. No, but the point I'm making is that Let me tell you something. If I explain to people that you're one of my best friends, I don't have to go all through all this. Zero.

No, no. Because everybody knows. No, I've spent- They go, oh, yeah, Brian Callen's one of your best friends because you're with him all the time. I know John very well. And everybody knows. I talk to John regularly.

Check my experience, bro. John did my podcast. I know John very well. If someone says, hey, is Eddie Bravo a friend of yours? Eddie Bravo's one of my best friends. I don't have to say, Eddie Bravo and I have known each other since he used to help me and walk me through house to tree because people were going to jump me. No, no, no, no, is Eddie Bravo a friend of yours? Eddie Bravo's one of my best friends. I don't have to say, Eddie Bravo and I have known each other since he used to help me and walk me through house and tree because people were going to jump me. And he texted me and said, Merry Christmas.

John and I are very close. I don't show people a fucking text from Eddie. We're very close. I've got eight gigs of texts from Eddie. And they're all memes. He always sends memes. He sends some fucking hilarious memes. They're hilarious.

Eddie Bravo has some fucking hilarious memes in his chambers. And they're savage memes, too, if someone loses. Savage memes. Oh, the memes today. It's a totally whole new element when it comes to losing fights. Dude, when I- Who's winning this fight, by the way? Listen to this.

Who's winning this fight? Listen to something really weird. I think it might be Lozon. It is Lozon. But Marcin Held's gotten some real good positions. Wait, I have to tell you the story about Jon Jones. No, you definitely don't. Yes, I do it might be Lozon. It is Lozon. But Marcin Held's got in some real good positions. Wait, I have to tell you the story about John Joseph. No, you definitely don't. Yes, I do. You can stop now. I know what you're trying to do, and you can let it go.

I don't care about that. I don't care whether, guys, you believe that or not. But listen, listen, I got a great story. I'm so waiting for a picture of him. Lower East Side, there used to be a guy who used to rap. He'd be naked, and he used to rap himself in a rug. Is this a Mickey Rourke movie? No, listen. Listen, goddammit. He can't finish this. He was a bare-knuckle boxer. Listen, you fucker. There he is. used to wrap he'd be naked and he used to wrap himself in a mickey work movie no listen listen god damn it he was a bare knuckle boxer listen you fucker there he is there he is on avenue a

there was a guy used to roll himself in a carpet and he was naked and he would want people that he would he would ask you to step on him because he would be jerking off he's on your podcast episode seven he was on your podcast yes that's my boy. Episode seven, how many episodes have you done, B? I've seen John do, I don't know, a lot. Two million. I've seen John. Two thousand. I saw John give, when John had no money, John is the most generous person in the world. I saw him give this homeless dude who he knew had nowhere to stay for the night.

I saw him give him 20 bucks. Oh, oh, oh, you can't do that. Whoa. He did like a wheel kick to the head on the ground. He's trying to go for whatever. I know. Well, he was trying to step over and do a triangle, but it looked like he was almost going for a wheel kick to the head on the ground. He's trying to go for what, a reverse? I know. Well, he was trying to step over and do a triangle, but it looked like he was almost going for a wheel kick on the ground.

Maybe I'm wrong. Is that the fight? Maybe he was trying to set up a triangle. Dude, we haven't paid much attention at all to this fight. Yeah, you're just trying to defend John Joseph for a full round and a half. No, I was going to tell a story about how terrible John is. You definitely weren't watching. John's one of the best people on the planet.

I believe you. I believe you. Hey, bro. He seems like it. And I saw this documentary where they followed him around. They followed him on his bike riding and his food preparation. You know, he's really into eating real foods. This is where Lozon fucked up.

You can't just jump guard on a guy like Held like that. But in the judge's eyes, you lose too. Yeah. Well, especially because he never had it. You know, I mean, as as soon as held feels like he's got guillotine on him he goes to uh side control he passes right away in the transition in the takedown yeah exactly so that's the difference between a super high level guy that's used to avoiding that stuff all the time he's thinking two three steps ahead whereas maybe lozans only

thinking maybe two or one you know i mean he saw it he went for. I admire that Lozon went for a bunch of shit there. Me too. Tried that armbar on the ground. But I feel like that transition where he had Marcin hurt, and then he dove on him on the ground. It's too early. I agree. If he had just separated him, he smashed him with those elbows.

If he had just created him some space and avoided the clinch. And strike. Especially when a guy of that high caliber grappling, his default is jiu-jitsu. So Auburn stuff, it's his natural reaction to defense. Sometimes scrappy dudes like Lozon, they want to prove a point maybe and try to submit a guy like Held,

which would be a huge feather in his cap. Kind of an ego thing. Yeah, so he decides, look, I'm not scared to grapple with this guy. I'll do everything with this guy instead of sticking to a very calculated game plan. Remember Alan Belcher did that with Paul Harris. He went, go ahead and grab that leg.

After dude! Oh, and beautiful defense on the ground, too. He's one of the only five, and I saw him at an appearance together for the UFC after, and I went, dude, I've never done this. I just gotta give you a fucking hug. I was so scared for you, man. He had a leg lock master

come in with him, too. It might have been Lister. It might have been Lister. It might have been Lister. And he's also a high-level black belt. Find out who trained Alan Belcher for the Husamar-Paul Hares fight. Husamar is spelled with an R. Paul Hares.

Be a top nine MySpace friend and fill that up. Let me open another bottle, guys. Why worry? Hey, B, am I in your top nine if it's MySpace? You have to be. I'm about seven or eight. You are. You both are my T-shirt sales.

Is that fucking random New York guy? It's two or three? No, he's not random. Fuck you. He's not random. If the vegan from New York who defended you from the bum sucking your dicks, three? Where am I at, bro? He's not random.

Dude, I got to tell you. I'll tell you a story about John Jones. No, please don't. No. No. No. No more stories about him. Please. No more. He was the first guy to tell you. I'll tell you a story about Jon Jones. No, no, no. No more stories about him. Please.

No more. He was the first guy to get tattoos. I remember. Shut the fuck up. Just shut the fuck up. Hey, bro, you fucking this guy? Hey, how about this? I'll do you one better.

No, no, no, no, no. Decision, decision. I did security for him. Lozon, Marcin Held. Who you calling? They talked about the time he caught all those kids. Who wins this decision? I was on stage with him.

Joe Lozon. Who wins this decision? Joe Lozon. Oh, it's a split decision. First one for Held. Second one for Lozon. Split decision. Joe Lozon.

Yeah! Joe Lozon. Marcin Held feeling kind of fucking salty. Wow. Walks away. I'm a fucker can't buy a win in the UFC. Two down. Two down.

Wow. That was good, though. John Anik. No, they're throwing them to the dogs. Powerful Joe Lozon. Congratulations. He's awesome. That's giant for him.

Powerful gray hair by our friend Anik. Yeah. Looks like John Anik. Here you go, buddy. Dean Lister. Yeah, Dean Lister. Yeah, that's what he said. Is that what he said?

Yes, that is what he said. So Dean is the guy that helped out John Donahue initially, and Dean is also the guy that helped out Alan Belcher for the Husamar Paul Harris fight. And then, of course, like we said, Donahue trained Tonin, who went toe-to-toe. Like, look at this. Like, this position here, man, when he had held Foxville there,

he had held in all sorts of trouble. That's the classic Travis Brown move. Yeah, I just feel like he should have separated and maybe just struck. And not go to jujitsu. That's his wheelhouse. You know what it's like? It's like when Nogueira had fucking Frank Mir against, remember he blasts him with that right hand and then shoots for the guillotine?

Frank Mir is a black belt through and through and was like, hold, let me figure this shit out. Instead he could have just pulled back and knocked him out. Different, it's any kids just pulled back Yeah, I'm out. Yeah Different story another story about John Joseph shut If I could just get one more John Joseph story, do you remember early on in Frank Mir's career his first fight ever in the UFC He won Roberto Trav and he caught him in a fucking armbar and snapped his arm. God. So Traven was a world jiu-jitsu champion.

He was a black belt. And I think Frank Mir was a purple belt. And Frank Mir just jumped on him. He cracked him with a shot, took his arm and snapped it and tapped him. You know Frank is asking the UFC, like, please just let me go. He goes, I won't even fight in the UFC and compete. I'll fight in, like, Russia or some shit. He just wants to fight, right? He just wants to fight for money what's going on well he has that

suspension yeah but if he has a suspension he can't fight anywhere else oh yeah Russia's like oh give a fuck you know what he should do wear a fucking lizard suit wear a lizard suit fucking inject your ass with whatever the fuck you want how about when he said

he said when he used to first be in the UFC, he wouldn't warm up before he'd go out to a fight. Me? I said, what do you mean? He goes, well, to me it's a fight. If I get in a real fight, I'm not warmed up. If I'm stepping in the octagon, I'm not going to warm up. It was like a mental thing for him.

That makes no sense, sir. That's not smart. I need to talk to him. Yeah. Well, I think now he's doing it, though. Yeah. When you get older. Well, Valent think now he's doing it, though. Yeah. When you get older. Well, Valentina Shevchenko and Juliana Pena.

Interesting fight, man. Interesting fight. Pena's got to get that fight to the ground. Dude, Pena versus Nunes is a fun fight. Well, I mean, this has got to happen first. And then when Shevchenko and Juliana Pena fight, we're going to find out a lot about how Shevchenko can deal with relentless ground and pound and takedowns. Pena is fucking strong for 135.

She mauls girls. She's on a win streak, too, like a crazy. She's very tough. Pena? Yeah, isn't she? Well, she just beat Kat, but it was Kat's comeback fight. Kat had been out for a long time. It's a huge win.

It was a good fight. Good fight. Good fight for her, and this is a big fight for her. This is like really all the marbles, you know? Yeah, this was a good fight. Good fight. Good fight for her. And this is a big fight for her. This is like really all the marbles. You know? Yeah, this is a game changer. Valentina's fucking, she's no joke, man. She's fucking scary.

Yeah, beat Holly on that Chicago card, right? And she shows that nasty fucking right hook, man. Where she stands in that southpaw stance and she slides back and just catches you with that check hook. The check hook, yeah. Yeah. It's a fucking interesting fight, man, because this girl is as game as they come. Pena is super fucking aggressive. Dude, there's some good prospects in Victor.

I was catching some of the highlights. I think it was last night or two nights ago. Did you see that one fight where the girl choked the girl to sleep? Find out what that is. It's on the underground, Jamie. I saw one girl. On the news section. Choked the girl to sleep and lost. Put her to sleep at the end what that is. It's on the underground, Jamie. I saw one girl. Choke the girl to sleep and lost. Put her to sleep

at the end of the third round. She was out cold at the buzzer. So it should have been end of the fight. Game over. They fucking went to the judges to score cards and the girl got the decision. What the fuck? That violates everything about fighting. God damn it. That violates everything about fighting. Donald Cerrone, Jorge Masvidal. That's a fun fight.

That's in Denver, yeah. It's a good Fox card. Cerrone, Jorge Masvidal. That's a fun fight night. I'm excited about that fight. That's in Denver, yeah. It's a good fox card. Cerrone, Denver crowd. Jorge Masvidal looks so damn good, but I think Donald's got... They're both very good. Jorge Masvidal just beat up Jake Ellenberger in his last fight. Yeah, he did. It was a big victory for him.

And Masvidal is super sneaky. Real technical. That's such a good matchup. Excellent boxer. Excellent boxer. Not just a great boxer, Very good takedown defense Very good submissions He's good at everything

He's got everything Remember he's the original Backyard brawler too And he's fighting Donald though Yeah he was in the Kimbo Slice backyard balls Where he fought bare knuckle In fucking Miami

Yeah he's one of my favorites Yeah he's on YouTube man Fighting bare knuckle And he's a schooled boxer though He seems like an educated boxer He's good at everything Very good at everything He's a legit

100% mixed martial artist. He does everything. Hey, did you see Robbie Lawler left ATT? He said, deuces. Why? Where'd he go? He's just going to inject himself that new young blood and fucking punch meat. Oh, wait.

Is that legal? That would be legal, right? That's blood doping, son. No, they're just going to stop you. They won't even know you did it. Yeah, or you get somebody, you get the young guy to dope. Oh, but you're not even allowed to do an IV. Yeah, let alone blood dope with a young fucking shit.

Hold on, is this John Wick 2? Because I might be all in. Sign me up. I might be all in. I might be all in. He drives. But Vin Diesel, he shit on right away. No, no, no, I shit on Vin Diesel's mouth.

John Wick, not only does he drive a muscle car he he oh look at this He's in the motorcycle and they killed his dog, and that's why you had to fuck everybody up I'm in my first John wick so underrated. Oh, it's great fucking food. I saw him in Starbucks. I'm gonna shit my pants He's tall isn't he he's a big dude Jumped on a Harley do you know what his nationality joint? You owned that joint. You know what he's half? Japanese. No. Korean. No. Gay.

I like your attitude so far. I'm going to need more guesses. Filipino. What? Not Filipino either. Asia? So they got a John Wick VR coming out. Keep guessing what he's half.

Because one side's white and the other side is? Look at what Jamie's got here. John Wick VR game. Not Russian. I'm going to have to have you keep guessing. I don't give a fuck. Just come up with the answer. It's important.

Just come up with the answer. Hold on, hold on. Let me look at his face. Look at his face. Chinese. Okay, no. Just say it. I said Asia. have to have you keep guessing. I don't give a fuck. Just come up with the answer. It's important. Just come up with the answer. Hold on. Let me look at his face. Look at his face. Chinese. Okay, no. Just say it. I said Asia. Oh, look at his... I'm not going to say it until you tell me. God damn it, you're fucking microphone off. Guess what it is. Ready? Guess what it is. What? And after this, I got a John Joseph story, but listen

to this. No. One more. Dude, can you believe it? He's half Samoan. I can't believe you even bothered to fucking waste our time with that. Because it just sounded dramatic. Samoan's a shit. It's a tough one, but he's big. That's why he's so big.

He's tall. He's 6'2". Easy. Hey, how much fucking money did he make off Matrix? A lot. Hundreds of millions. Enough to buy everybody a Harley. He bought all the stunt guys Harleys, I think.

That don't mean shit. He's so rich. I just love that movie man I look it's a stupid movie And it's ridiculous And it's unrealistic But I like a guy Who drives a muscle car

And fucks everybody up I never saw And he's solo I'm in There's no sidekick Exactly He calls no help I'm in

Yeah I'm in too Do you remember Cobra With Sylvester Stallone You bet your sweet ass The cover He's like this And he comes out And he's got a match

In his mouth Yeah Fuck yeah He drove that old car, that cool old car. Tight jeans. What was it? Okay, here's the, what is the fight? What is the fight, Jamie?

What does it say here? This is where she gets. Okay, well, we'll find out who it was, but check this out. Watch the transition. This is the end of the fight. Check it out. So there's a scramble, and in the scramble, okay, well, this is way later, but the girl catches like a rear naked choke from the side and puts the girls to sleep.

She's hanging on, buzzer, watch, gets up, girl's out cold. Fight's over. Game over. Game over. 100%. TKL. That girl's out fucking cold. Powerful Gracie Baja on the booty right in front of you. Not a good ad.

Not a good ad. Find out who it was, young Jamie. It says Haga? Well,. Find out who it was, young Jamie. It says Haga. Well, just find out who it was. Just find out who it was. Haga put Montanero to sleep. But the actual names. Let's find the actual names of both girls.

Because it was on Invicta last night. So see if you could find it. But anyway, point being, it's terrible officiating. When someone's asleep, the fight's over. Period. End of discussion. Just like getting knocked out with one second to go. Just because, oh, you're out cold, but ding, there's the bell. the fight's over. Period. End of discussion. She's like getting knocked out with one second to go. It doesn't, just because

oh, you're out cold, but ding! There's the bell. So that tatted up girls trying to fight in the UFC too, right? Didn't she get on the mic and was like, put me in the fucking UFC to murder her. She just won. So is she going to the UFC now? I didn't see her fight. She looks kind of hot. I saw a few seconds of her fight, but I was running out the door. Dude, there's one girl

on this card that will knock your dick in the dirt. Hold on, Jamie. Say it again, Jamie. Amy Montenegro defeated Celine Haga via unanimous decision while being unconscious. Tight move, girl. Fuck that. So, in my world, Celine Haga wins.

Yeah, but we don't live in that world. No, no, they changed that. They reversed that. That fight, there's no way that stays. They reversed that. You can they changed that. They reversed that. That fight, there's no way that stays. No, it's crazy. They reversed that. You can't have that. You can't have that.

That's an offense to fighting. Hey, let's go ahead and call up the girl that won at 145, though, huh? We kind of need some fucking contenders up there. It says it was at the buzzer, and she lost. She put her to sleep. Still loses on scorecards. So what? That's bad officiating, because she was out before the bell rang.

The fight's over. It's ref air. Yeah, the ref made a huge mistake. He fucked up. They should appeal. They'll win. What state is that in? If they don't win, it's a huge injustice.

If they don't win, I will fly out there and piss on Kansas City. You say Kansas City? Missouri. Missouri, get your shit together. Your chief's already fucking lost. Figure it out. This guy's Taekwondo reminds me of me when I was young. get your shit together. Your chief's already fucking lost. Figure it out. This guy's Taekwondo reminds me of me when I was young. Shut your fucking mouth.

All right. All right. All right. Before you even get to it. Don't make me. I'm like, all right. Don't replay the video of your sidekick lesson. Guys, my wheel kick.

I'm just in a recording old thing. I'm just glad there's no video of my wheel kick in the air. I've seen it. Damn it. These words. Every live show, they ask for it, B. Oh, yeah. It's exhausting. And I'm just in a recording old thing. I'm just glad there's no video of my wheel kick in the air. I've seen it. Damn it. These work. Every live show, they ask for it, B. Oh, yeah. It's exhausting.

And I'm in jeans. I'm like, nah. Yeah, you wear athletic shoes because you know they're going to ask. That's not true, Brendan Shaw. I forgot that Sean Shirk knockout. That Sean Shirk one. Oh, that's Sean Shirk back in the day, too. Remember?

I was texting you this the other day. I had a random thought about Sean Shirk because my brain's very strange. He was a beast. He was very strange. He was a beast. He was a beast. He was a beast. You know what I remember for it? Those shitty, shitty teeth, though. They were like a real Mako Sharks teeth.

Very sharp teeth. I don't remember that at all. I know. You're so superficial. No, no. I text John, remember his teeth? You go, not at all. I sent a picture of Sean Shirk smiling like this. Brandon will

pick up some stuff. There's his teeth. Looks totally normal. Handsome guy. Wait a minute. His bottom teeth look like Sean's. Get in on those teeth. Small guy. I don't get it, dude. Sir, it looks like a jigsaw puzzle. You are so weird. Would you get your teeth fixed if you were him? Would that be before or after

you got your fake tan? How would you handle it? The important thing is he's all natural. Oh, yeah. If you were him would that be before after you got your fake tan? Show him with like weight weighted vests and climbing up stairs just this little The most insane strength and conditioning workouts he was jacked a shark And you never fucking forget and he had a tunnel under his house that went straight to Mexico. And that's where he would get all of his vitamins. All his fucking shark blood. All his bull shark blood.

They would pull it right out of great white sharks. Bull shark. They would grind up great white sharks' dicks and put it in a protein shake for him every morning. He was such a savage for a while. Hey, remember he lost a BJ and then ran out of the arena? Yeah. They found him underneath the car. Well, he's trying to hide. Chewing on the muffler.

From testing, right? What? That's not true. They were trying to test him? No, he was just sad. No, he was fucking bummed because BJ threw a flying knee and knocked him out. BJ beat the shit out of him. So he ran under MGM and was under a van.

Look at BJ. He looks very fired up, man. BJ's loving it. This goes one of two ways. Either we feel really bad for BJ and he gets just outclassed by a young line, or I think it's a fucking five-round scrap. Well, this— It's not going to be—

Five-round. Look how fucking intense BJ looks, man. Is it safe to say he's never fought anybody with this kind of style? Yeah, no one has a style like Yair Rodriguez. No, you can't mimic Yair. Yair is very good at scrambling off of his back, too. He's really good from the bottom, and that's going to be really interesting because BJ

has a fucking crushing top game, and he had a crushing top game at 55 and above at 145, which is where he's at, and apparently he's been making 45 easy. And, you know, he just is super focused on cardio. He's been training at Jackson's for a long time

now because he's had two cancellations. One injury cancellation and one IV cancellation. He took an IV out of competition because he was dehydrated. So silly. He had a hard, hard training session and was honest about it. Just said, yeah, you know, I took an IV. I just had some water put in his body. It's nothing.

It really is nothing. That was supposed to be in the LA card too, yeah? And they pulled him from the card because of that. He's had a ton of time. The positive is he's had a ton of time and he's never wavered. He's been at Jackson's the whole time. How old is he now? BJ's 38. And he has Perillo.

He has Winklejohn in his corner and Jackson. He's been fighting a long time. Perillo's my coach of the year, man. Perillo's an excellent boxing coach. Excellent, excellent boxing coach. Who is that guy right there? That's Perillo. That's been fighting a long time. Perl is my coach of the year, man. Perl is an excellent boxing coach. Excellent boxing coach. Who is that guy right there? That's Perl. That's Jason Perl. Only works with the best of the best. Creme de la creme.

He's with BJ for a long fucking time. Well, you know, BJ just felt real bad about how his fight with Frankie Edgar went and he just really felt like that wasn't him. It was a strange style. He was up on his toes. He was almost in that boxing style, which was crazy.

Did he ever talk about that? It wasn't even like a boxing style. It was like his legs were so close together. He thought that he would be more efficient, and he'd use less energy. That was the idea behind it. And he apparently had been doing it in camp, and it had been working. Not against Frank Edgar, who didn't dive in that double leg. Well, it's also, you know, you're going right in against Frankie Edgar.

This boy is a young fucking lion. He's so athletic. He's so, like, kicking with those crazy taekwondo kicks. Well, here's the thing. MJ might have the best chin in the history of fighting. At this age? Might have the best chin. Still has not been knocked out.

He's never been knocked out? He's been beat up. He's been stopped. He got stopped by Frankie on cuts. Frankie got on top of him and beat the shit out of him. Frankie did work and didn't knock him out. Didn't knock him out. He took shots.

He got beat up by Rory McDonald when Rory was a legit 170, top of the food chain 170. Rory beat the shit out of him. And he didn't stop him. Nick Diaz beat the fuck out of him. And he didn't stop him. That's another one who's never been knocked out. Nick Diaz beat the fuck out of him and he didn't stop him. That's another one who's never been knocked out, Nick Diaz. But George St. Pierre stopped him. George St. Pierre

kept him on his corner. He kept him on his stool in between the corner, but just overwhelmed him, beat him up, and just mauled him. You know, when George was at the top of his game. Did they stop that fight early? Yes. I didn't know that. I never root against BJ. Never root against BJ.

I'm not rooting for anybody in this fight. This fight for me is like, can the legend come back? I mean, does he have it in his shell? Does he have it in his body? Does he have it in his will? How has he been treating his body? How has he been taking care of himself? Where's his motivation?

You know, does he look at this as one last shot at redemption? And then this fucking kid who is just uh assassin he's so good and so hungry and he's coming up and he's so dynamic and he shows all of this massive potential he has incredible creativity he has unbelievable dexterity in his legs that uh andrew feely knockout where he hit him with that flying switch round kick. Dude, he's no joke. He can do things that no one else can. So what he's like, he's like a top level taekwondo fighter who also knows how to fight on the ground, who also knows how to box.

Was he brought into Jose Aldo's camp to get him ready for... No. That wasn't him. That was the other guy. Completely different guy. That guy's in Jungle Fight. Rumble in the Jungle or something like that? Yeah, he's in Jungle Fight. This is a different cat.

That guy's a killer, too. I don't know. Yes. Completely different, though. God damn it. Why am I blanking on his name? Jonas Speed. God damn it.

What is his last name? Jungle Fight Champ. Jungle Fight Champ. Jonas Speed brought in to help. Jose Aldo. Jose Aldo. and he looks just like jamie you'll find him he bill arino yeah bill arino bill arino's a bad motherfucker but you know he's let's get that over he will he'll come over eventually i'm sure but he's uh fighting

jungle fight and he put up a highlight reel of jonah's bill arino man he does some crazy shit bro well he that's one of the reasons why they brought him in for Conor. Yes. Didn't work, by the way. Didn't help. Thanks for all the help. Gadouche. 19 seconds.

Well, what Billerino doesn't have is that fucking piston on the left hand that Conor has. Talking about the X Factor? Yeah. Oh, with the Irish X Factor? Well, he's also got a fucking iron chin, and he's a savage. Look at that. Look at that kick. Billerino's nasty with his kicks, man. Nasty. His front kick leans way back kicks man nasty leans way back you can't punch me that was a round kick but thanks no i'm saying

before that switch look at that switch hands switch high kick yeah he's nasty well you know what man there's a ton of those guys now all over the world yes there's a ton of those guys who are traditional kilkishin fighters traditional muay Thai fighters and they're getting an MMA now Gaston Balanos is making his fucking MMA debut and de bellator is he everybody be working on your takedown skills You best work on those takedown skills, son That's all you're gonna fuck the stand-up game. You're standing with a legit Muay Thai master I'm gonna go ahead and do that Randy Couture, James Toney game. Look at this guy.

Look at how hard this guy is to hit. Look at this. Yeah, he's nasty. Then again, it's not the UFC. But he's beautiful from that southpaw stance, and he throws that nasty leg kick, or nasty left kick, rather, to the body. Holy shit, we're about to watch BJ Penn fight. Yeah, fuck that guy.

Yeah, put Bill Arino off. Let's focus. Let's focus. Focusing, guys. How are you feeling right now? I'm a little nervous. BJ's one of my faves. Brian Cowan, are you paying attention to this

or are you thinking of John Joseph stories? I got a lot. I got a bunch of them on the tip of my tongue. I got a bunch on the tip of my tongue. You just can't wait for this to end. Last thing about John Joseph. One more thing. If I could just.

There was a time we juiced and then we fucked each other. And then we went and ate vegan food. I dove into a crowd. The only time I did something, I dove into a crowd off of his stage when he was in the Cro-Mags. Okay, shut the fuck up. I was choking. BJ Penn's up.

It was the scariest time for me because I'm a radical kid. Excuse me. Come on, BJ. It's time. There's nothing worse than seeing a legend just get murked. Well, he's fighting the new blood. By the way, Bruce Buffer has a blown ACL while he's screaming and jumping around up there. Yeah, he has not had the surgery because he does not want to take the time off of announcing.

That is a goddamn savage. I don't want to see the UFC without Bruce Buffer. He's a savage. He's amazing. Bruce Buffer is the greatest ring announcer in the world I agree. Do you think Mike Goldberg's in the crowd going, virtually identical? Oh how dare you. How dare you. He's yelling out for BJ to embrace the grind BJ's embracing the grind. Well this is in Phoenix. This is Mike's hometown. Mike fucking loves MMA man.

Oh, yeah, he's a fan. There's BJ's girl. You're gonna miss Mike, I'm sure. I will stay in contact with Mike to the day I die. Yeah. Mike is my friend, and, you know, the UFC was sold to WME. They have their own thoughts on what they want to do, and I will be friends with Mike Goldberg to the

day I die. I love that guy. Can't get the guy a sign-off, though. Yeah, man. He was so good. I didn't know what to do, man. Can't do one of those old weird animal videos? They didn't want to, man. You know, I don't know what's going on. You should be civilized. I know. Well, I don't know what's going on in terms of organizations, you know?

I don't either. I don't know. I literally know Dana. And Dana's the reason why I'm still there. I mean, I've met Ari. He's a very nice guy. He's a very smart guy. He's a very successful guy. I wish them all the best. I'm rooting for them 100%. Obviously, I'm still with the company. I mean, I've met Ari. He's a very nice guy. He's a very smart guy. He's a very successful guy. I wish them all the best. I'm rooting for them 100%. Obviously, I'm still with the company. I love them. It's an honor to work

for the UFC. But if Dana was out, you're out. Oh, yes. He's the only reason I'm there. What if he's kind of there, but he's on the island all the time? Fight companion, motherfucker! Don't give me started.

I will dive on in. I'm going to be 50 in August. I like staying home. I like playing with my kids. I like doing jujitsu. I like playing pool. I like doing yoga. I've been rolling again.

Loving it. Where at? Jean-Jacques Machado's. Nice. I've been doing a little gi roll to get myself back. Oh, shit. Right away. Kick to the body.

Kick to the body. 453, 452, 451. First round if you want to sync it up. Hey, no advice to BJ Penn, right? I know, I know. Brian, please shut the fuck up. You've never had a fight. No advice to BJ Penn.

I was a Taekwondo master. BJ, move in. No, you're never a master. BJ with the takedown. Uh-oh. He's got the clinch. He caught the kick. Good job of stepping inside that spinning Uh-oh. He's got the clench. He caught the kick. Good job of stepping inside that spinning kick, too.

That's one thing I can't handle. Hall of Famer? You might want to stay offline, Brian, for a few days after this. I want to lay low. But me and Taki about that. Definitely don't look at those Facebook comments. All right, here we go. Look, Yair tries to take BJ down.

Interesting. Well, he ties up with that overhook. Do you ever hit that? You know, that... Yes, me. That was judo throws? No. Oh, look. Yair on the outside is super dangerous. Now BJ is also

moving to his right, which I don't like when Yair throws that horrible left kick. I know. But you know what? It's weird for guys who are right-handed to move to their left. You've got to train it. It's a natural reaction for whatever reason for guys to want to move to their right. So when you're fighting a guy who's a southpaw, who's a nasty kicker,

so you have distance, you have a distance issue to deal with, and then you also have to mitigate the fact that you're walking into his power kick. But remember, Yair's switching constantly. Yep, constantly. So it's like pick your poison, son. Constantly. Kind of just got to do your thing if you're BJ. But that's that Taekwondo style.

He can fight off of either way, left or right forward. So BJ is more of a boxing-oriented striker. He's only boxing. He throws leg kicks. I mean, remember he fucked up Diego Sanchez with a head kick. Remember? Goddamn, that was a while ago. Yeah, it was a while ago.

But that kick to the head was what opened up that giant gash. Ooh, nice jab there by BJ. He needs to relax just a little bit and pick his shots, and he can get them out in the first round. Oh, don't say that ever. I know, it's fucked up, right? I don't know why you said that. I know.

Ooh, right hand by Yair. See, the thing is, BJ looks in shape, and BJ looks fit. He looks motivated. It's just a matter of whether or not he can get this to the ground, or he can get something going and try to sap something out of this young kid. I don't know if Rodriguez is as fast as the Roadrunner. Oh! He got stunned with that kick.

He got stung. Or BJ Penn's slow as fuck. That left kick went through the guard, and it caught part of the guard. Oh! Head kick! Please keep your hand up. And again, he's moving to his right. See it.

I know. And Yair is... Oh! Oh! Wheel kick! Shit! He catched BJ in the head with a wheel kick. Please.

Oh my god. Yair. Yair. Yair with the wheel kick. Oh my god. Ya-Year- Ya-Year is so fucking scary. Oh wow, barely, barely avoided that high kick. So what BJ's gotta do is move on the outside and then figure out the top- Oh! Look at this! Oh Ya-Year is so strong, knee to the body. Come on BJ. No, hands up please.

This is so interesting. This is so interesting. This is so interesting. Oof. Hard to fight him, man. He's still in there. He's still in there. Yeah. But here's the thing.

You know, a fight can change at any moment. So right now you got Yair walking him down, looking for that big kick, and you look like BJ's in a bit of trouble. But let's see if BJ can recover. You got to remember BJ's been around for a long fucking time. He's fought a lot of tough guys. Not like this. But here's the thing.

I was going to say, here's what we haven't seen from BJ. I don't remember BJ ever coming back in a fight and winning. Do you? His kicks just... I remember BJ winning. He beat a lot of fucking guys. But have you ever seen BJ get beat up and then come back and won? BJ just looked at the clock.

BJ's like, holy fuck, this is not Matt Hughes. It's the kicks, man. The kicks and from the outside. It's the angles, man. Look at that front leg side kick. He can't get in either. He does everything from a farther distance than BJ can hit him. Yes, exactly.

Everything is like a, oh! 360 round kick! Fuck! He's hitting him with some jacks. Oh! Jumping front kick to the face. I don't want to see this. Right hand.

I don't like this. Oh, man, the high kick is there, man. He's got to be careful. Oh, beats you with the right hand. He's got to be careful because he's backing up. He's dropping that right hand. Oh, my God, he's getting lit up. This is what I didn't want to see.

And he's got his back to the cage. And he catches the kick again. Oh, again to the arm. Blocking it, blocking it. And again. Yeah, but he's taking on the forearm, cage. And he catches the kick again. Oh, again to the arm. Blocking it. Blocking it. And again. Yeah, but he's taking on the forearm, dude. He's doing it with one arm. Ouch.

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Man, but it's a guy. That's a dynamic kicker who can also box run section advantage Oh, look at that. Oh, how dare you kick him in the ankle show a little respect He has such an advantage in distance. It's almost like having a reach advantage. It's almost like being a taller fighter. Is he kicking him with the top of his foot or with his shin? Both. He's mixing it up. He's mixing it up. He's throwing Taekwondo kicks. He's throwing Muay Thai style.

I've always thought that was so risky if you hit somebody's elbow with the top of your foot. It's risky if you hit them with the shin. You ever hit someone's elbow with your shin? When they check it too? Or if they check with their knee? Holy shit, what a round. Big John is talking to BJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go to BJ's corner, man.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Look at him look up at the air. Ooh, that ain't good. Oh, Christ. That ain't good. When you look up at the sky when you get kicked. Look at this. 360, son.

Oh, fuck. Right behind the head. Also, what people don't realize is when he blocks it and he has just one hand, it's fucked you up horrible. Look at how tough BJ is to take these shots, though. Dude, I'm telling you, BJ might have the best chin ever. It's sick. Maybe even better than Mark Hunt.

Or Roy. Yeah, he's fucking up there when you think about the shots he's eaten. Well, Roy's been knocked out, remember? Oh, his last fight against Mark Hunt. Well, not last, but last time he got stopped. The walk away. The walk away KO'd him. It is nuts that he's able to take that kind of punishment.

Those are crazy shots. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Head getting rocked back. God, BJ getting his ass whipped just makes me want to eat some Taco Bell. I like any excuse to fucking... You gotta hate yourself to eat that Taco Bell.

Yeah, I do. You want some more wine? I never hate myself that much to have Taco Bell. Have you ever had Chick-fil-A though? Because you should celebrate that. Celebrate. I fucking... Celebrate Chick-fil-A or Taco Bell? Chick-fil-A. No, fuck Taco Bell. That shit's for the birds.

Chick-fil-A is yummy. Chick-fil-A is fucking very yummy. You know who doesn't ever eat Chick-fil-A? They're closed on Sundays, though. You know who never eats Chick-fil-A? Here we go. John Joseph. Oh, he heard him!

He heard him! He heard him. This is it, boys. I'm depressed. Pour me that wine. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Big John's. He heard this is it boy. I'm depressed pour me that wine. Oh my god Oh my god, big John stepping in here fucking DJ still moving. He's still moving. He's still moving God damn stop who survives better than BJ the fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not yet. Not yet

Yeah, you guys a legend. It's a legend. He's not Save him save him. God damn damn, Yair Rodriguez is good. That was just like Jurassic Park. That little goat. He's a beast. The little goat. The little goat. And then everyone's like, what's going to happen?

He was hitting him. Oh, man. Oh, man. Look, BJ's pissed. BJ said, I had that. I don't know if he's pissed. I mean, he's upset, obviously. See, that's BJ right now.

The goat in Jurassic Park. And Yair is the fucking philosopher. First of all How dare you have that That's already No he's an old goat How dare you have that Already

Get that fucking primed It's true though Go to that picture above it When you see the Velociraptor With the goat The one at the top Jamie Who did that Oh Jesus

Oh my god God damn it So let's take a look At the replay man Hey BJ Let's go ahead and just What do you think Greg Jackson's telling him?

That's a wrap? Of course. Just saying, hey, you did everything you could. You trained your hardest. This shows you the limitations of having a boxing-only style when you're fighting a kicker. It's not even that, though, Joe. Is it? No, I think it's that.

But look at this. Front kick to the face, and then a right hand behind it really stuns him. It's also 2017. It shows you how advanced the UFC is now. He kicked him in the front foot. It was a front foot. It was a front kick to the face. Look at this.

Step back. Boom. And then a right hand behind it. It's just his range is different because he's kicking. His ability is different. Everything's different. Everything's different. When you're fighting and you only have boxing.

It's a terrible fight for BJ. Yeah. Everything's different when you're you're fighting and you only have a fight for BJ Yeah, when you only have boxing and you're fighting a guy who can box and also is a dynamic kicker You're in such a disadvantage also doesn't play the boxing game He's not he doesn't do the boxing range which is what you're seeing in practice you get out there like what the fuck is this? Yeah, he's doing on 17. He's also not doing a Muay Thai range. He's doing like a no karate Yeah, but he's also mixing up, going to clinch, then doing crazy kicks and all this shit. So good. Hey BJ, I haven't fought in a little while. Here's the most dynamic guy.

There's Todd Grisham. So this is the new guy that they hired. So this is what they hired him for, to work the desk. Who's the girl that did it before? Karen Bryan. I think she still does it. Did they say Karen hit the showers? I don't think so. I think she still does it. I think they just hired this guy as well. Karen was great. This guy's pretty cool

because we were making fun of him, not in a mean way, but he called him. Now we roast him pretty bad on the show. Yeah, and he says to the show, he goes, what did he say to you? It was kind of funny. He said, you and I have the same haircut, man. And we were saying,

he looks like a guy you'd rent a car from. He goes, hey, I heard Hertz has an opening too for you. I'll ask him if I can hook you up. He's really funny. It was funny. And then he goes, god damn, I love the show. Yeah. That's funny. He's a good guy. Good dude. Well, he goes, God damn, I love the show. Yeah. That's funny.

He's a good guy. Good dude. Well, hey, man, it's maybe one of the hardest gigs to step into at this stage of the game. Everyone's going to hate on you no matter what. No matter what. Yeah. And Mike Goldberg was really fucking good. He's not replacing Mike.

That's what people don't realize. He's not the replacement for Mike. Like, he's not going to be next to Joe. That's not. So who's going to be next to you? Everyone thinks just because he got announced. I think it's going to be John Anik. Okay. I think it's be next to Anik? I think it's going to be John Anik. I think it's going to be Anik.

I love Anik. It's weird, man. Whenever you change something, it's weird. And what's really weird is that Goldberg's last show was one of our best ever. We were laughing, flowing together. He's a good dude. I've known him forever. I've known him since 1997. Wow. Fucking Penn and Teller.

He has been doing it forever, man. Wow. Since 1997. Hey, man, when you spend $4 fucking billion on something, you just want to just do whatever you want. You want to tear out the kitchen and replace the shower head and put a fucking new staircase in. You get a whack. Fire all the maids. Fire everybody.

Bring in Reebok. Yeah. We'll see. Fire everybody. All right. I wonder if the Reebok deal sticks. Does the Reebok. Yeah, we'll see. Fire everybody. All right. Have your cleaning lady in movies and shit. Does the Reebok deal stick during the transition? How's that work?

I mean, they have to honor all the contracts. I guarantee as soon as it's up, WMEs can be like, katoosh. Double birds. Double birds. Double birds. Now, how many more years do they have? Seven. Seven.

Signed a lifetime contract. No, I'm just joking. No, I'm just joking. I think it's up in two. I'm pretty sure Reebok's like, get us the fuck out. Hey, Jamie, crank the volume up on this because I guarantee you they're going to interview BJ. If they don't, it's a goddamn disservice. And since he didn't go out cold, I'd probably interview him too.

If they don't interview him, Mike Goldberg should jump in and do the Kanye West, Taylor Swift thing. That'd be sick. Well, let's see what happens here. By a truly special athlete tonight, the featherweight contender, Yair Rodriguez. Yair, man. I'm not sure you could have done any more with this showcase tonight. Congratulations. Could you have been any worse of a matchup for BJ?

Thank you so much. I'm going to say it first in Spanish and then in English. Who's the guy in the tie? You need to back off Yair. Is that his translator? You don't have to. He speaks in English. Who's the guy in the tie? You need to back off Yair. Is that his translator? You don't have to. He speaks perfect English. How about we just find that fucking earpiece?

By the way, he threw up on my feet once. Yair did? Yeah, he won a fight and then threw up on me. Well. He threw up on the ground. He tried to throw up under his shirt and it landed on my feet. You're wearing your nice shoes, some Prada, some shit? You're wearing those workout shoes.

I wear some shoes that I wear that are comfortable for the UFC. They have fairly soft bottoms. You don't give a fuck. You don't give a fuck. No, he wears a fanny pack. No, I don't give a fuck. I wear a fanny pack. I think you had a fanny pack on on stage the other night.

No, he didn't. He had shit in his pocket. Yes, I did. No, you didn't. The other night, you had a bunch of shit in your pocket. Not the other night, but the night before that, I had a fanny pack on. Depending on what I'm wearing. I was like, he has a bunch of shit in his pocket.

I wear it all the time. I will never wear a fanny pack. Never. Oh, I'm wearing. I was like, he has a bunch of shit in his pocket. I wear it all the time. I will never wear a fanny pack. Never. Oh, good for you. Because I'm way too fucking... You're way too vain. I'm macho. I'm vain.

Cro Cop's not macho. Cro Cop and Chuck Norris. Cro Cop wears one all the time. And John Hathaway. Guys, I'm easily influenced. Take it easy. And Dice Clay. And your boy who's vegan.

And John Joseph? Yeah. But he doesn't wear it, not out of leather. He wears it around his neck. He wears no leather. None. He wears no leather? He wears pure nylon, something that kills the whole planet.

What shoes does he wear? He is a Hare Krishna, right? Legit. What shoes does he wear? BJ stepped out. He wears like anything that's made of canvas. That's me. That's hemp.

Bro, that wasn't at the comic store. That's at the Ice House the other night. Look at that. Strong fanny pack plus a Kuyu camo jacket. Damn, that's snakeskin, son. No, no, no. That's Kuyu camo. No, that's Stingray.

I see you flashing up there. No, this is this. This is this. This is this one right here. Nah, that looks like Stingray with diamonds. You're incorrect. Oh, man. Look at that.

That front kick to the face. That makes me want to go hunting when I see that. Look at this 360. It should. That 360 round kick, man. God damn. That wasn't fun to see. It goes to the body, too.

It was a domination. Like a total complete domination. And Yair was a strong favorite in this fight. Yair Max Holloway? Well, although he's number 10. What's up, son? Let's build the guy up. I think this is a big fight for him. Well, someday

in the future, I think that's a legit fight. And I think that's an interesting fight. Because Max Holloway is a bad motherfucker. Max Holloway? Max Holloway is a bad motherfucker. It's a really interesting fight. I agree with you. Yeah.

Okay. Well, hey, they made Ferguson Khabib official. Yes, my friend. For interim title. Yes. Everybody getting titles. Everybody. Look at how thick that is.

Look at how thick that is. Every fight now, from now on, will be an interim title. God damn it. That'd be nice. Wait. Khabib is... I'm sorry. They made what? that is. Look at how guys have my... Every fight now from now on will be an interim title. God damn it, that'd be nice. Wait, Khabib is... I'm sorry, they made what? Tony Ferguson. Khabib Ferguson, official. Yeah, but they made it as an interim title, which I don't understand.

Wow, that's super confusing. It's very confusing. Because Conor just won the title. See, I think this is more of a sign that Conor's going to fight Floyd next. Because he's probably talking to Dana like, you ain't seeing me anytime soon, son. is going to fight Floyd next. Because he's probably talking to Dana like, you ain't seen me anytime soon, son.

Or it's more of a sign that they wanted to have a pay-per-view card that was stacked with championship fights. But if you keep doing interim titles, people are like, all right, we get it. Everyone's a fucking little champion. Well, you know that Conor's about to have a baby. His wife's about to have a baby. Correct.

So that's going to be... Lots of guys fight with babies, though. Well, maybe he's not. I mean, he's richer than lots of guys. That's true. Maybe he's like, listen, I don't want to go through training camp right now. I want to experience this. That's a legit point.

My first kid. Anyone who had a baby, don't go through training camp. Yeah. I mean... It's a fucking beast. Man, how badass is Yaya Rodriguez? Unbelievable. That's the coming out party, folks.

BJ Pat on his back. Is it though, or is it a product of BJ being basically a heavy bag in there? And I love BJ. It's that, but it's also... Look a product of BJ being basically a heavy bag in there? And I love BJ. It's that, but it's also, look, I think BJ when he was 10 years younger, it would have been a tougher fight for Yair for sure. 10 years ago BJ? For sure. Way tougher fight.

He's still a different style. Who fucking knows? This is the problem though is that it's not just a matter of BJ being a legend, BJ being an all-time great, two-division world champion, bad motherfucker without a legend, BJ being an all-time great, two-division world champion, bad motherfucker without a doubt. But his style is a boxing-based attack and then a vicious ground-and-pound and vicious top-game submission game. BJ is not a guy who submits guys off his back, and BJ is not necessarily a guy who kicks that much. So Yair, who's an outstanding kicker, one of the best kickers,

he has just this huge advantage. You know what it's like. They do no favors. If you used to do Taekwondo, if you had a guy who said, and you box a little bit, if you had a guy that said, hey, let's spar, you can kick, and I'll just box. You'd be like, well, good luck with all that. Exactly.

Can I kick your legs? And he'd be like, yeah. I'd be like, oh, well, you're going to have a terrible afternoon. Yeah, terrible. Game over. Yeah, you're fucked. Didn't, I'd be like oh well. Well. You just you're gonna have a terrible afternoon. Yeah, terrible Yeah, I'm over right now. You're fucked. It is didn't BJ fight Didn't am I crazier did he fight? Machida heavy weight, that's so crazy heavy weight on though It's called the rock and the rumble on the rock rock in Hawaii No, no, and then I thought he fought lyoto in Japan in rumble on the rock. He fought Carlos

No, he didn't fight Carlos.e. I thought he fought Lyoto in Rumble on the Rock. Where did he fight in Rumble on the Rock? He fought Gomi. He beat the fuck out of Gomi. Remember he brought Gomi over to Rumble on the Rock? Yeah. Beat the shit out of him and strangled him. He fought somebody else. He lost to Lyoto, but I think he fought in, I want to say

K-1. Because he fought Dwayne Ludwig in K-1 as well. Yeah, I thought he fought Liotto in Rumble of the Rock. That's crazy. You might be right. I don't know. Wikipedia that, Jamie. What a powerful fucking tie and pocket handkerchief for Tyron Woodley.

They announced him versus Wonderboy. I know. Him versus Wonderboy 2. You gotta fucking do that. I kind of feel like you have to. Unless George St. Pierre comes out of retirement, then you make an exception. But since George, oh, look at this. This is horrible to watch, man. He's just taking that left kick to the head.

Oh, the wheel kick. I mean, this is like right away. Early in the fight, he's getting staggered. He's getting his legs kicked out. I feel like those WME boys made this matchup. Oh, man. That 360 round kick to the neck. Oh, my God.

And then that jumping front kick behind it. I can't watch that shit. Oh, my God. Iing front kick behind it. I can't watch that shit. Oh, my God. I'll tell you what. Yair Rodriguez versus Brian Ortega is a fun one. Look, Yair Rodriguez versus anyone is a fun one. I mean, the kid's 24 years old. Who the fuck knows what happens with Yair?

Yair might not even stay at 45. He might be stepping up to 55 in the next few years. He might be the Mexican Conor McGregor. He might be the motherfucker. Ortega? I didn't even know Ortega was 45. Boom, boom. Yeah, Ortega's 45. He's ranked ahead of Yor. He might be the motherfucker. Ortega, I didn't even know Ortega was 45. Boom, boom. Yeah, Ortega's 45.

He's ranked ahead of Yair. He's number nine. Dude, when you say BJ Penn, get rocked like that, you see his legs give out. Click on that K-1 Heroes for me. Where's that at? Longest active win streak in the featherweight division, Max Holloway. Japan, Joe. You're right.

Wow. Yeah. I think it was K-1, right? Yeah. And before that, it was Rumble on the Rocks. And who did he fight in Rumble on the Rocks? Back up a little bit there. UFC.

Rodrigo Gracie. Go down. It's way down. Keep going. No. Takanori Gomi. He fought Takanori Gomi. Did he fight someone else in Rumble on the Rocks, too?

Yeah, he fought Gracie. Rodrigo Gracie. Oh, Rodrigo Gracie. That's right. And that was a decision, right? That was kind of a boring fight, if I remember correctly. Powerful Larry Landless referee. Having seen what Conor did to Eddie Alvarez, what is your take on Alvarez, I mean, Conor, Khabib?

It doesn't matter. He has to fight Tony. He's got to fight Tony. You can't just dismiss that. No, you don't. That's not one like, oh, Khabib gots this. No, no, no. That's a tough fucking fight. You're right. I forgot about that. And you can't ever use MMA math.

Here's why. Ronda Rousey submits Kat Zingano in 14 seconds. Kat Zingano stops Amanda Nunes in the third round. Amanda Nunes destroys Ronda Rousey in 48 seconds. MMA math never ever works. It doesn't work. Matchup styles. It's one-on-one. It's like when you use that translator thing that I told you about and you read things

Yeah correctly, but Ferguson is that's That mother fuckers nasty such a bad. Oh, what a great picture man. That guy is awesome. He's so fucking good man He's the best game boss logic. I know some shots to that guy. Yeah, man I like so artists John man. So, Jon Jones versus Dylan Danis is interesting because Dylan Danis is way smaller than Jon Jones. Oh, Jon's about to rampage him. Arona style. If that

really does happen, but I think that's like a suggestion more than a signed fight. Does Jon Jones have a signed grappling match with Jamie? Oh, no, no, no. Danis joking around says... Excuse me? Danis' thing was a fan... Oh, it was fan-made. But Boss Logic, though. Wasn't it made by Boss Logic? Yeah, but, no, no. Dennis joking around says... Excuse me? That Dennis thing was a fan... Oh, it was fan-made by Boss Logic, though. Wasn't it made by Boss Logic? Yeah, but people were just talking

about that potential matchup online. Dylan Dennis said he doesn't understand I would play with him. What? Dylan said that? Yeah. Oh, Jesus. You see what John Jones said? What? It's kind of a douchebag. He said that about Dennis? It looks like it. There you go. A douchebag. Did you see what John Jones did to Dan Henderson in that grappling match?

Dan Henderson's a far cry from... Oh, very, very different. He's also 60. Dylan Danis is pretty elite. In there for a paycheck. He's pretty elite. But Gary Tonin worked him. You ever see the Gary Tonin-Dylan Danis match?

Yes. And Tonin. You know, Gary Tonin's one of the best in the world. If not... If not the best. Yeah, he's like... He's up there. He's up there.

He's in like the handful of very best guys in the world right now. Crone Gracie, him, Eddie. There's a few guys. And Eddie Cummins and him, those guys, both of them, have really revolutionized the ground game with the leg lock attack, like we were talking about earlier, the John Danner. Look at that. That was that transition again by held.

Dylan said submit John Jones in under eight minutes. Jesus. He doesn't understand how much bigger John is. John would do the shop shutdown and crush his face in. He wouldn't have a chance. I just used myself there. He would not have a chance to get a hold of his ankles or anything. You got to be real careful talking shit to John.

To John? Yeah. Dude, he will run into a bitch breaker on Runaway and then fuck you up. It's John Jones, son. He's so much bigger. The baddest man on the planet. He's about 230. He weighed 238 when he fought Henderson in a grappling match.

He's 238. He submitted Vitor Belfort. With a broken match. He's 238. He submitted Vitor Belfort. With a broken arm. Yes. He had his elbow capsule popped in an arm bar just the round before. He will take dick pills all night, stay up to 6 a.m., and fuck your world up. It's Jon Jones, man. I don't think he understands how good Jon is on the ground.

No. And I don't think he understands how strong Jon is. He doesn't. I think Jon will get a hold of him. He'll be like, you ever see one of those praying mantis pick things up?'t think he understands how strong John is. He doesn't. I think John will get a hold of him and he'll be like, you ever see like a cow, like one of those praying mantis pick things up? You're like,

how the fuck is he doing that? It's like, this is weird. He cradled, he cradled. It's like a fruit fly. Just what the fuck? Have you ever seen a praying mantis kill a hummingbird?

No. You can't believe it. They kill hummingbirds. Oh, shut your mouth. Why do you think I would say that unless I knew? I gotta see that. Bring it out.

Unlike you. Does he rip its face off? I don't talk about things unless I'm absolutely sure. Whatever, dude. mouth. Why do you think I would say that unless I knew? I gotta see that. Bring it out. Unlike you. Does he rip its face off? I don't talk about things unless I'm absolutely sure. Whatever, dude. Jackson, he knows Jamie. Whatever. Pull up. I was saying notes for drama.

Oh, the praying mantis is hanging out right now? Whoa. The praying mantis kills. Weird. Oh, my God. Hold on. Pull that back again. Pull that back again.

Dude, you gotta be- It doesn't show the kill. It just shows them hanging out. Oh, really? Oh, they caught it. But there are ones that show the kill. For sure show the kill, Jamie. So this praying mantis fucking- Watch this. Watch this. Oh really? Oh they caught it, but there are ones that show the kill for sure So this praying mantis fucking watch this watch this. Oh, I get a hang out right there

Go ahead and sip on in buddy. This the hummingbird. He just waits to the right time It's it's it's it's so much smaller than hummingbird to which is really fucked up about it insects With their exoskeleton. It's so scary. Like, look at those little skinny arms. You're like, well, how is that skinny arm going to fuck up a bird? Well. Very well. You ever see how many pull-ups I can do? Yeah, but you're pulling up 18 pounds.

Nah, my legs are very big. This thing's catching a hummingbird. So is this hummingbird trying to fuck with a praying mantis? No, he's trying to get some nectar. He doesn't even know the praying mantis is there. Oh, it knows it's there. Oh, it knows, sir. They're very aware of the threat that a praying mantis

causes. Well, Jamie will find one. But there's a ton. If I don't see a death of a hummingbird, I'm a freak. They hang out in front of hummingbird feeders. They sit on hummingbird feeders. Snipers. That's smart. Well, the hummingbirds are too fucking stupid. If they don't move, the hummingbirds don't see them. Because a lot

of these animals that are prey animals, like deer in particular, their vision is what's called edge detection vision.'t see them. Because a lot of these animals that are prey animals like deer in particular, their vision is what's called edge detection vision. They see movement. They don't really see things that well, but they see movement. That's why, if you've seen that ASAT pattern, A-S-A-T pattern for camo that First Light

has, one of the reasons why this First Light, F-I-R-S-T-E-L-I-T-E First Light's one of the reasons why their pattern is so effective is like a zebra's pattern. Although that is disputed, though. Like a zebra pattern, they think it's camouflage. I always wonder why it's white and black. Well, this is why. It's interesting.

The idea is that the lines break up the pattern of the body and it confuses predators when they're in... Is it attacking a cat? Dude, a praying mantis eats a cat? No, dude. It's my fucking hero. It's defending itself. They're so gangster, man. Look at it. It's just going after the cat. The cat's like, what the fuck? Jesus.

Is it stuck on the cat? Yeah, it grabbed it and hung onto it and bit the fuck out of it. I wouldn't mind seeing it kill this cat. No, it's not going to happen. How about Coyote Peterson talking about centipedes and what that venom does? The one guy who's been bit by everything, he said, look, tarantula, hawk, bullet ant, don't do the centipede. Look at me.

What kind of centipede? Don't do it. It's the one actually in Arizona. The big ass red one with all the legs. He said, don't let it bite you. Why? What does it do? Those kill birds, too.

No, he said the hardest bite's the gila monster. Well, not the most painful, because it was a toxin that you have to- Was this a car gets attacked by praying mantis? God damn it, cars? Dude, they're so ferocious. We're so lucky they're little. Yep. I put up a post today of these ants dragging away this worm.

There's 10,000 trillion ants in the world, and they represent approximately the same biomass as all the humans. There's 7 billion people in the world and there's ten trillion 10,000 trillion ants I love an ant man. Oh here it goes look at this look see This is like a common tactic that hung that that praying mantis do Goddamn Graham by the face dude, but dude how strong are those little fuckers dude? He closed his beak like get over a bitch He just clamped his fucking Muay Thai

clinch on that hummingbird's head. Who just pecked it out? Oh, what kind of dick let him go? Who did that? Oh, some fuck with the gloves on who's jacking off the hummingbirds in the morning. Oh, a person. Look at this. Look how fast that thing was. Why did someone film this and then set that hummingbird free?

You fucking pussy. This is nature, you bitch. Why are you interfering with the natural order of things? Yeah, he probably hurt the praying mantis when he did that shit, too. Probably. Well, no, the praying mantis is starving now. He probably dies. Yeah, look at this. That takes a lot of time.

He's got it clamped down. I mean, this is an awesome catch. You've got to let that play out. God, do you know how hard that is for the praying mantis to get a hold of a fucking hummingbird? Look at this. This guy got in there and separated it. Oh, we need to find that guy and fucking piss on him.

You know what that's like? That's like when your boy's getting his ass kicked and you jump in and start throwing kicks to the head. It really is. And the guy's on top. It's dirty. He's got your boy. It's dirty.

It's dirty. It's dirty. It's the ultimate cock block. God damn it. Isn't it crazy that praying mantis wait on these goddamn feeders? I had no idea. Here's another one. I just thought they looked gangster.

He's just sitting there in his hummingbird feeder. Hey, don't they have sex and rip the other one's heads off? Do the humming... Yeah, a praying mantis? Yeah. The female rips the male's head off. Look at that bitch!

Oh, no! Watch how he gets them, too. Hold up. It's so crazy how they're so much smaller than these hummingbirds. Oh, he's getting handed on them. No, no, no.

He does that once, but watch the second time. The hummingbird comes close, and he's like, nah, not today, son. He said, yeah, try that again, no. He does that once, but watch the second time. The hummingbird comes close, and he's like, nah, not today, son. He said, yeah, try that again, bitch. Watch. He gets close to him. He's got that Yaya Rodriguez mantis.

So they know that the praying mantis is a threat. So the praying mantis is kind of laying low. Come on, give me this. He's playing freeze tag. Right there. He's playing freeze tag. Yeah. Look, he comes back in.

He's like, well, I took care of that problem. Oh, I killed him. Don't take your eyes off. Don't pay attention. Be careful of that. Ass first, son. Eat that ass. Look how he hangs on and just takes him over the edge.

What a creepy animal. Ooh, there's a spider. Favorite animal now. Hold on. Is that a black widow and a praying mantis going to war? Who filmed this? Full screen, please. Yes, there's a spider? Favorite animal now. Hold on. Is that a black widow and a praying mantis going to war? Who filmed this? Full screen please. Uh, yes please. Look at that fucking monster. Look at what a praying mantis looks like.

Look at this. That thing's a badass dude. Don't fuck around. I've told you that ten times. Dude! Ooh, but he's gotta be careful. Look at the black widow scrapping. They gotta be careful there. Just burst his abdomen. But here's the thing, a black widow is not a fucking weak animal either. Yeah, it is. Burst his fucking abdomen. One fight, game over. Yeah, it is.

Pop his abdomen. It's a fucking bone. Wait a minute. One of them might have a good Muay Thai clinch, but the other one has venom. Yeah. It's like BJYR here. If you get bit by a black widow, you're fucked. Imagine if a praying mantis does.

Look at this. Game over. Sadistic fuck with his camera. Oh, first of all, this sadistic fuck set this up like a psycho. For sure. This is a fight. Yeah. He set it up like a psycho.

100%. I'm trying to see it in their natural habitat. What's this? That's a cockroach. Oh, that's a hissing cockroach. What happened to the fucking praying mantis? This is like the guys waiting on deck. Yeah, it's tag team.

Let's see the fucking praying mantis. Oh, shit. The spider's like, I'm out of here, yo. Bug fight. The spider's trying to climb the wall. Let's see if they let him. They might have greased up the wall with Vaseline. Oh, shit. The spider's like, I'm out of here, yo. Bug fights. The spider's trying to climb the wall. Let's see if they let him. They might have greased up the wall with Vaseline. Oh, dude, that's dirty.

Well, that's what I would do. Yeah, for sure. If I wanted to have a fight to the death. That black widow wants no part of that prank. I would have KY jellied the entire wall. I'd be like, bitch, this is going down. I have YouTube hits to get. You're forced to fight, sir.

When did you get? Remember your piranhas? Hold on, I'm going to step on everybody. Joe had all these piranhashas and he had a goldfish. He had his goldfish in death row. I used to feed goldfish. I had a goldfish tank that was right next to the piranha tank. And I would scoop goldfish out of the goldfish tank and drop them into the piranha tank.

The piranha would fuck them up. Shrug them. Yeah, if you wait a couple of days. Just flakes. But here's the thing. You can't wait. You got to wait two days, not four. They die in four?

No, no, no. They eat each other. The piranhas eat each other? Oh, yes, they do. Yes, they do. So you got to feed them every two? You got to. Well, I don't remember the exact days because this is a long-ass time ago that I had them.

Before I realized it was illegal. It's illegal? I don't know. I mean, this is all theoretical. I don't even know if I really had them. I don't think so, man. You know what's really actually way better than piranhas that's totally legal is barracudas. What the fuck do you do with a barracuda?

Oh, dude, they have little barracudas, and people feed them fish. And barracudas are ferocious little motherfuckers. They're so mean. Yeah, and here's the thing about them. Do you know what island dwarfism is? It's like if you have an elephant that lives on an island, there'll be really small elephants. It's really interesting. No reason to get huge.

But lizards, on the other hand, grow giant on islands. That's why Komodo dragons are so big. Komodo dragons are the largest reptiles. Or the largest lizards? Yeah, the largest lizards. Crocodiles. So crocodiles are the largest reptiles, right? I always fuck that up. But when they take these barracudas and they put them in a smallish, like a 500-gallon-plus saltwater tank,

they don't get that big, but they stay ferocious. They're mean motherfuckers. Yeah, see, look at this guy's got barracudas. I like when they're all big and shit. Incorrect. Watch when these motherfuckers decide to feed. I'd slap the shit out of that barracuda. Are they feeding?

Yeah, they're eating minnows or something. They're going to jack these minnows. There's a bunch of cool fucking, like, cichlids. Oh, here he goes. He's moving in. Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, boom! Look at the speed he picks up. How quickly he just jumps on that minnow and just jacks it.

I heard they're mean as fuck in the ocean. Barracudas, you better watch out. They'll bite your dick. Yeah. I think he just ate that minnow. I wonder if those minnows are freshwater minnows or saltwater minnows. I heard they're mean as fuck in the ocean. Barracudas, you better watch out. They'll bite your dick. I think he just ate that minnow. I wonder if those minnows are freshwater minnows or saltwater minnows. Well, barracuda are saltwater. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

Do you think they threw some freshwater minnows in it? Like, just deal with it, bitch. So they're super lazy? Well, they're super fucked. Like, you're not going to live. Can't breathe, huh? Back! Ooh, look how quickly they jack them. God damn, they're fast.

God damn, they jack them so fast. Did you say all muscle? Never seen a fat fish, sir. I think a dolphin swims 40 miles an hour through the water. Wait a minute, you've never seen a fat fish? You ever order Toro? Toro is fatty tuna. Yeah, but you ever seen them in the water?

They don't look out of shape. They're fat as fuck, bro. Nah, it's like they got Spanx on underwater. No, dude, they have flip-flops on. They fucking lounge chairs and shit. Beer in there. Beer in there. He's shopping. Eating cake and ice cream. I're fucking lounge chairs and shit. Beer in there. Beer in there. Eating cake.

Eating cake and ice cream. I love me some fatty toro. I'm just saying, you look at them, they look pretty fucking in shape in the water. Now that makes me want to eat toro right now. It's not like, oh, that's an out of shape fish. Yeah, it's a fat fuck fish. Oh, come on. That fish is, yeah.

That motherfucker's slender as shit. That fish is eating Twinkies. Eating Twinkies, lazy, waiting for government housing. Look at that That's a fat fucking tuna That's a nice looking tuna Do you ever catch tuna? Me?

Yeah No You ever catch fish? No I used to when I was young I used to fish all the time We caught tuna in Hawaii And then

What kind of tuna were there? Skipjack tuna? Yeah And then Brought it back to the hotel And the chef at the hotel cooked them up within hours of catching. Oh my God, it was so good.

We ate sashimi from it. I want to go there, right? So good. Why don't the three of us get a time share? Aw, you guys. Come on. That sounds like cocaine. Hey, and bring your vegan friend.

John? I got a buddy of mine. Yeah, that guy who's your best friend. John does it? I had a buddy of mine who bought a house. He bought a vacation house And then he said If I had to do it over again

I wouldn't do it over again He goes Just get a fucking Airbnb Yes He goes you can rent a dope house Whenever you want He goes honestly He goes if you have a house out there

You feel like obligated to go there He goes no The toilet breaks You gotta hire somebody The sprinkler fucks up You gotta hire somebody Or you own it And then you Airbnb that bitch out

And make bank That's But yeah But then you got a bunch of people F bank. That's, but yeah, but then you gotta deal with a bunch of people farting in your house. A bunch of people jacking off in your fucking garbage chute. Well, I'm not renting out to booger nose kids. High class only. What if they just lean their asshole

right over your kitchen sink and just unload your shit. No, and then clean it. You don't even know. Like you're in there. You're in there. Boy, I'm so glad we're making additional income here Meanwhile they're fucking Bukkake in my Interrupt someone you're basically saying I'm more important. No Shitting in a in a in a sink. There was a gym at Marina Del Rey. I tell you the story about the guy.

Was John Joseph there? Nope. Nope. Nope. The gym in Marina City? Why was he there? He's your best friend. Yes, in Marina Del Rey.

Remember that one? That's where my place is. My condo. There was a guy who used to shit in, no, it was right off of Via Marina. So this guy used to shit in the shower. And he would take a shit in the shower. And they knew it was him, but because they can't have cameras in the shower. Well, where is he?

In the house? In the gym. Oh, in a gym. Yeah gym so it's okay oh in a gym yeah so this is rena city so yeah rena city and and how do you know and he would look at the guy he would look at the main guy who was always trying to catch him and freaking out and he would he would go have a good day and wink apparently now i might not want to shit a log and they're like wait a minute did he ask him if he shit in the sink oh the guy would lose his mind but they could never prove it right so we'll just hang around why would he think that that guy did it well because they 100 knew that the guy did it because every time he'd be in there he would disappear and they started putting two and two together leave a log and not only that not only that he would disappear, and they started putting two and two together. He would leave a log. And not only that, he would leave a huge log, but more importantly, he

would go, have a nice day, and wink. He would wink. Every time he did it. Oh, God. Now, you can't prove that, but he got off on the fact, and at one point, the main guy who was the manager of the gym, they had to hold him back. Lou Perrotum, the guy I used to work out with, told me this story.

They had to hold him back because he just was like, I'm fucking, I don't care who's the customer, I'm going to beat the shit out of him, because they had to hold him back. Lou Perrotta, the guy I used to work out with, told me this story. They had to hold him back because he just was like, I'm fucking, fucking, I don't care if he's a customer, I'm going to beat the shit out of him. Whoa. Because somebody had to clean up. He got off on taking a shit in that shower. That's a weird move. I've never seen that. Oh my God.

I've never seen anyone take a shit. That's so bizarre. There are a lot of people that like to do weird shit like that, leave their mark somewhere and be like, see ya. Yeah, that's like borderline fucking serial killer yeah yeah like you get real close like then you start torturing cats yes and you know well it's the idea i might get caught so it's you know another perversion is people breaking into other people's houses and jerking off in their house or in their closet yes and that's busting loads

on their clothes yes and then running off yes and the reason that's so disrespectful and that's... Busting loads on their clothes? Yes. And then running off? Yes. God, that's so disrespectful. Well, that's when you know you're not a winner. You're not Spider-Man. You're not saving the world. You're not going to be the president. No superpower. Or you are. Or you're like a high-functioning executive and you get off on the fact that you might

get caught doing something sexual. What high-functioning executives do you know that break into people's houses and jerk off on their shoes? None. None. However, apparently it is a perversion that affects a lot of people. So you can be a lawyer or whatever, and you get off on the fact that you break into somebody's house, you're jerking off in the closet, you might get caught. Who knows if somebody comes home, you come and you leave, you run out. That's something that affects no matter what your socioeconomic status is.

But you don't even see the results unless you set up a camera. You just assume that- It's the idea you might get caught. So taking a shit is exciting for him. So do people admit that they do this? Is that how they find out about this? Yes. Or they catch them?

No. So in a book called A Billion Wicked Thoughts, these guys who, neuroscience, who study sexual perversion and stuff, this is something that a lot of psychiatrists would deal with, right? Or in people who have sexual perversions it's a recognized thing where danger where the idea you might get caught and doing something behind closed doors doing something you know which would be outrageous right is that from suppression you know like when you say like high high-powered executives i always think of people that are in a position where they're being forced to behave in an unnatural

way and that bottles up that's that's when they they're being forced to behave in an unnatural way. And that bottles up. That's why. And they start jacking off to your Louis Vuittons. They do start doing weird shit. I mean, that's a big issue with businessmen that are really powerful guys. They like to have women shit on them and do crazy things. So weird. Or a dominatrix.

Hey, Jamie, someone jacks off on your Yeezys. Well, there's a girl who was a dominatrix that met me and Jim Norton in Austin. We were eating dinner after a show, and we're hanging out, and this girl, because she knew that Jimmy Norton, who's a fucking pervert and a half, is into dominatrixes, so she came over. Did you say dominatrix is? Dominatrix. Into being dominated, and he likes-

Yeah, but do you say is dominatrix? He's into dominatrix. Would you say a bunch of dominatrix? San Diego Wings but do you say is dominatrix? He's in the dominatrix. Would you say a bunch of dominatrix? San Diego A's. They're like deer? I don't think you can say he's into dominatrixes. No, dominatrix. He's into being dominated and...

Okay, but if you have a room full of women that work as a dominatrix, what do you have a room full of? Bitches. You have... Yeah, it's called dominatrix. No, dominatrix. What would you call it? I mean, has it ever been used in a plural? I've never heard it.

Are they so rare they're never in a room together? It would have to be dominatrices. Dominatrix. Ah, trixes. So you were saying, though, Jim Norton likes to be dominated? Oh, so this girl, she came up with his balls and shit? No, he doesn't go that deep, but he's just a freak. I see.

And so he's the best. So anyway, this girl comes over, and she says, I just want to introduce myself. My name is Madam Crush Your Balls, whatever the fuck her name is. And then we say, come on, sit down with us. Tell us stories. So she sits down with us. She doesn't name any names. She's an actual real pro.

And she starts telling us about all these different guys that she shits on. Celebrities? No, no, no. Mostly wealthy businessmen. Wow. Lawyers? People that have a lot of people that work under them. They have power.

They have power and they're also like bent. They're all fucking pressured and strung out. Have to act all. I dated one of these girls who had a chair. She took me to her dungeon and she had a steel chair. When you say dated, is it like you say John Joseph's your best friend? Yes. That's very good. We had sex lots. And she brought me

to the steel chair and you sit in the steel chair and your balls go through the chair. When you say you, don't say you. Say the guy. Me, I was just observing. I'm not into being dominated. Your balls go through the hole?

She was a cutout for your balls? Yes. And so you tie your balls. You take a string, wrap it around your balls, and tie it to a chain, to a link on the bottom of the floor. What are we talking about here? You're not going anywhere. Your balls are tied. Who would get off to that?

Well, and then you get peed on. You did that? Oh, I'm getting hit now. I'm not into that. Hey, do you want to hear Yaya Rodriguez talk about this? Not really. Crank this volume up. Nah. What's he going to say? What's he going to do? I want to hear this. I'm not into that shit. Hey, do you want to hear Yair Rodriguez talk about this? Not really. Crank this volume up. Nah.

What's he going to say? What's he going to describe, Joe? I want to hear this. He already talked about it. But I want to hear what he's saying now because he's getting interviewed by Kenny Florian. Let's talk about shit. We will. We will.

Shit. Shit. I went upstretching the strategy to him. Tyrone Woodley making controversy. God, he's good. Look how quickly he steps to the side, too, once BJ goes down. Watch. Steps.

Look at that side step to get side control and hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer. Who's this guy? Is this the car rental guy? Is that him? Must be. Okay. Do you know why? Let's talk Of course it's possible, bro. Okay. Do you know why? Do you know why?

Let's talk about Brian getting his balls kicked in. Do you know where most of the shit videos come out of? Germany. No. Japan. And do you know why? Because they lost the World War and then they feel deep shame. It goes back to what you were saying.

What? It goes back to what you were saying. They're a very, very suppressed culture. There's a very disciplined, rigid... Have you ever gone down that bunny hole? I never have. Oh, bro, they have masks. I can't do it. And then they shit into the mask. What? I just can't

do it. Oh, bro. One of my favorite pictures in the internet ever was from the 90s and it was that girl, it's called Japanese bathtub girl. The girl's in the bathtub and she's got her asshole straight up in the air and she's shooting a fountain of yellow diarrhea out of her asshole. It's landing in her face talking about we're talking about life

seen all of its various forms what spectrum I know a super wealthy man super wealthy don't say his name on the air but write it down a piece of paper hold it out do we know him be you don't know him does grogan oh you know you know you know somebody look knows him, though. Look at that picture. That's one of the greatest pictures in the history of the internet. I just can't. God damn it.

Joe Rogan, God damn it. Well, it looks like she has a mask on, too. God damn it. That's why I draw the line. I don't fucking care, man. Oh, God. That's what Will Sasso said. Whatever you do, don't open my laptop.

And he put it in my dressing room, and I go, don't do that. He goes, whatever you do, don't open my laptop and look at it. And it was right in front of my dressing room. And I had to look. And that's what I fucking saw. And I saw it again. I love about that picture. She has her socks on.

God damn it. She's classy at least. And she's holding her toes. Because she doesn't want to slip. Good form. I forgot what I was going to say, too, motherfucker. I'll throw up. I had something fun to say, too.

God damn it. Will Sasso, diarrhea. No, diarrhea. Don't open my laptop. No, not that either. Why do they do that? Why don't they do that? Why do they shit on each other?

Well, it's like the whole idea. Wow, look at that. Champion, Jose Aldo. That seems weird to me. Doesn't make sense. It seems weird to me. And then Max Holloway, interim champion. Like, what is going on?

When you have a champion who didn't win the title in a fight in the octagon, he was awarded it after he won an interim title against Frankie Edgar, which is a beautiful performance on his part. And then Max Holloway wears an interim. But then think about how Max Holloway got it. I love Max Holloway, and he has nine fights in a row that he won. But then he beats Anthony Pettis, who's never fought at that weight. He did fight at the weight once before.

Well, fought once before at Oliveira. But really not a top contender. Really not. Realistically not. And then leaves the weight class. Now he's at 55. And then you won your belt off that? It's so fucking strange. But I love how everyone has belts. Well, do you think that this is just a part

of the transition between Zufa and WME, and that this is going to be like this transitionary period where everything— Oh, powerful watch, Tyron Woodley. Champ's got good taste in watches. Is it a Rolex? It's a fat one. Whatever it is, it looks good. But the thing being—look at that bad boy.

That could be an Invicta. But the thing is, it's like, there's obviously some sort of a transition going on. 80 people have been fired, including Goldberg, right? It's a crazy time. I think they're scrambling for stars, and I think Belts brings along some sort of ratings. I just think they're in this feeling out

period, this transition period, that they're just trying to figure it out. And I think that's why Dana's entertaining this Conor McGregor fight. Because what else would we talk about? Name something else big going on in the UFC right now. Well, what's interesting is does WME or this organization, have they really been involved in anything where the outcome is totally unpredictable like combat sports?

Because the promotion for the holly uh or excuse me the ronda fight was a perfect example of something like well we really hadn't seen it that way before we really hadn't seen it go 100 heavy towards the superstar right 100 heavy usually it's like you know you would see a promo piece like say if it's like woodley versus wonder boy you would see wonder boy highlights you would see woodley highlights, you would see Woodley highlights, you would see ass kicking on both sides. You'd be like, holy shit, what a fight, I can't wait. They didn't do that at all.

They did it the way they would do a movie. They did it the way they would promote a TV show. They did it the way they would promote a new Kiefer Sutherland series on Netflix. Where you see only the star. I shouldn't say Netflix, I should say like Fox. Yeah, but that's what scares me because Dana White, when it comes to this, is a genius. Where you see only the star. I shouldn't say Netflix. I should say like Fox. Yeah. More like Fox. That's what scares me because Dana White, when it comes to this, is a genius.

I don't think he would allow that to happen. So I'm just wondering how involved he is. Because without Dana, if you just have WME running it, fuck, man. Well, it did look dope, though. I'll tell you what. I don't agree with the fact that they ignore. I'm a purist in a lot of ways when it comes to combat sports. And I think you have to respect the hierarchy of the champion.

I don't give a fuck who's the famous person. This championship thing is so important. If you're going to have champions, you've got to respect the champion. Like whoever the fuck it is. It's super important that you make a big deal out of the fact that that person's a champion. And they made like almost no deal out of the fact that she was a champion. It was this weird situation, but it was really well done in terms of like getting me amped up for it.

It wasn't though. I disagree. I disagree. But for me, it was. For me, look, I- Because you're the one doing the fucking promo. No, no, no, no, no. No, most of that was not me.

Most of that was like you open up the fucking curtain, the garage door and you see her hitting the pads I had almost nothing in that the only thing that I said is I can't imagine she's not gonna come back and and be You know what her motivated pumped up or whatever by the way a lot of the stuff they use in those promos Totally out of context like when I was saying that she's the best ever there's no one even close. There's hurt and there's everybody else Yeah, that was a long time ago. That was a long time ago. I did not say that for this fight. No, you didn't say this for this fight.

You said that for the, I think you said that for the Betch Cohea fight. But yeah, so see, like when they're making these promos, they're patching stuff. They're taking, so for me, I have a problem with that because that's not what I would say. Yeah. For me, I have a problem with that because that's not what I would say. Yeah. So you're using like an old quote when she was dominating people versus a new quote post head kick knockout, post the emergence of Amanda Nunes after she stops Darren McMahon versus, you know, what you're seeing now in this division, which is all this new blood coming up. You're seeing this division percolate and change and and evolve and you're seeing like higher level fighters come in like Valentina

Shevchenko like Amanda Nunes like Holly Holm like you're seeing all this stuff take place in front of you seeing this change in the women's division the same way you saw a change in the men's division from 97 to 2017 you're seeing that now take place at an accelerated pace super in the women in the men's division from 97 to 2017 you're seeing that now take place at an accelerated pace super in the women in the women's division yeah so who was dominant two years ago like to use a quote from two years ago is really not fair i agree not at all not fair it's a mischaracterization yeah but but it builds the fight up right it builds the fight up but it's not the way to do it i agree i'm a purist too but the thing thing is if you understand this sport

and you look at, let's say you want to copy the NFL. The NFL would never just focus on Tom Brady because there's a good fucking chance Roethlisberger wins next week. Now imagine if they just did all promos on New England. People would be like, what the fuck is this? This is some bullshit. Roethlisberger's

fucking good, man. Worse than that, you're talking about all promos that aren't the champion. Yeah. Which is worse than that. Right? Because you're talking about someone who just lost by brutal knockout. They're getting a shot right away at the title. And the idea is that even though they lost, they lost, but it was

some bullshit. Now she's back. She's back. Now she's back. After 411 days, she's back. Yeah. It's fucking... 411 days. It's just a bad... It's just a bad business plan. There was a lot of talk by people that I don't know, but I was listening to people talk about it. Like, I don't know who they are, executive type people.

And I was like, wow, you guys have this idea of how this is going to go down. Like, they were just super, super connected to this idea. I don't know who they were. I don't know if they're friends. I don't know if they're.... I don't know if they're, but there was a lot of people that were talking that had this idea

that she was just going to go in and storm the castle and take back what's hers. And murk her like this. I had a conversation with a high up exec at a big time corporation and we're talking to him

and I'm like, oh my, you have no idea. What did he say to you? He, we were talking about Connor and Rhonda and he goes,

neither one, listen, Rhonda had that one hiccup, she will never lose again. I'm like, that's not true, man. What? There's a good, he were talking about Connor and Ronda. And he goes, neither one. Listen, Ronda had that one hiccup. She will never lose again. I'm like, that's not true, man. What? He goes, no, no, no. She would never lose again.

She goes, and he goes, and Connor, not a chance. I'm like, what are you talking about? Dude, these people were talking backstage. The MMA gods are like, excuse me? These people were talking backstage, and one of them didn't know Nunes' name. Yeah. And they were calling her cannon fodder. Oh, boy. It they don't know anything but i mean who knows who these people are they could be i mean i don't know who they were yeah they might be people who are friends of

people who know some people that work at william morris and they're backstage dressed in fucking two thousand dollar suits so they look classy who knows i don't know william morris they shouldn't be doing anything without going through dana North, they shouldn't be doing anything without going through Dana White first. They should not be doing anything. It's been a game way too long for you guys to make any decisions without having some sort of influence from

a guy who's come from the ground up from it. Going, you can't do that. Listen, our fan base is going to yell bullshit on this man. And if we, if Ronda doesn't win, we're going to get fucking reamed. Calling her cannon fodder, huh? Do you think?

Yeah. Yeah. That was the word that someone used. Do you think that at this stage that there should be some sort of clearly established protocol as far as who fights who and why you have to, otherwise you're no different than the WWE, right? Then people won't take a lot of the interim

titles and the championship fights serious. Here's my argument against that. Dan Henderson and Michael Bisping. I wanted to see that fight. It was goddamn time. That's because we love Dan. I agree. I love Dan and I love Mike. And I know Mike wanted it back. He finally got the title. He's like, fuck this.

I know, Joe. It doesn't work like that, though. That guy knocked me out. He's got his fucking picture of him flying through the air, punching me in the head while I'm out cold. Everybody knows what that logo is. He's like, fuck him. And he landed it twice on him in the fight. No, don't get me wrong. It might be the fight of the year.

It's up there. But I think you have to have some sort of structure where people can see what's going on. Otherwise, it's just like- Maybe it's like a USADA exemption. Yeah, maybe you have an exemption. From Brock Lesnar, how he got away with that four-month... The problem is, if you do that, you're right.

You miss out on those really fun kind of revenge fights. Yes, yes. But then you can't say, oh, we want to be the next NFL... Let me ask you this. ...NBA. Do you think, I mean, outside of like promote... See, the thing is, you can't deny... It's weird.

It's like, are you a sport where someone has a very clear you know like the like the world series like you can't like someone can't lose a game and then all of a sudden be in the world series right it's just like there's a there's a protocol like you have to go through that protocol some games there's yeah but do you think that there's a possibility you could have something like that, some established setup, but then they could throw it to the internet for a wild card. You cannot have that. Every now and then.

Maybe the UFC gets three wild cards a year. The problem is the people that would answer that thing. But here's the other thing. I wonder if an MMA young Jamie's shaking his head. It's crazy, Jamie. Voting for the all-star teams and shit. That's how Yao Ming is the number one vote-getter every year.

Every year. Why is it? Because Chinese people, there's more of them? Well, technically, yes. But let me ask you this. Do they do it online? Is that what they do? There's a guy right now that's the number one forward for the Warriors, but no one knows

even how to say his name. Is he from China? No, his name is Zsa Zsa Pachulia, but he's the leading vote-getter. Where's Jeremy Lin, too? Where's he from? Who's good? I have no idea. Yeah. Zsa Zsa Pachulia, but he's the leading vote getter. Where's Jeremy Lin, too? Where's he from? Who's good? I have no idea. Zsa Zsa, I don't know.

Lithuania, maybe? But let me ask you this question about MMA. In USC. In U.S.C. Here's a question. Seattle Mariners. Do you think, I wonder about MMA, whether being champion in most of the divisions is even that important to the fans?

In other words. Oh, yeah. Still is. What's important to people is Conor McGregor, right? Ronda Rousey. The people that have the, there's something colorful about them Conor McGregor, right? Ronda Rousey. There's something colorful about them. Complicated people.

Somebody who speaks well. So we watch those guys. But I'm not so sure that because Michael Bisbing is champion that his viewership goes up as a result. Oh, it does, for sure. It's clinically proven it does. Yeah, championship fights. Terrible point, sir. Terrible point. Terrible point.

And you know what? I need you to take a break after that. To your point, you can say Ronda was the bigger star, but Ronda was a different force. And the reason she got so big is because she was champion. Ronda was never champion. We're not even talking about it. But also, like, what she did. She was winning one, losing one.

It doesn't matter. What she did to indulge that whole popularity thing was very different than Conor's approach. If Conor had decided to take that exact same approach and go do a ton of movies and go do a ton of talk shows and go do a ton of commercials from Budweiser's and Entourage and all this different shit, if he started doing that same shit,

his star would rise proportionately to where her star rose and his performances inside the Octagon would suffer proportionately to where hers did. And he didn't do it, and he's still bigger. We were talking about that guy that did that interview. He's a sports guy, and he was talking about— Skip Davis?

No, no, the other guy, the black guy who was with him. Shannon Sharp. Is that his name? Yeah. And he had a great point. Shannon Sharp had a great point, and he said Ronda cheated on MMA. He said you've got to be all in. He goes, you can't go and do a bunch of other shit

and think you're just so much better than everybody else that it's never going to catch up to you. It comes from another one percenter athlete who knows and who's had all this kind of temptation. And Shannon Sharpe stuck to the game plan. She did. And when he said it, I was like, this guy's dead right. I think the business model, though, the only problem with the business model is that with MMA, it's really hard to invest in the champion because of the nature of the sport the the belt will change like especially you're investing for one fight right but still you're investing all the time but you're not investing for in the champion you're investing in the organization and the fact that they have the best fighters in the

world what you're doing with each fight is promoting a fight. What I'm saying is that you have to respect the hierarchy of the championship above all. The champion is the champion and if you don't respect the hierarchy of the champion, if you're somehow or another saying that this champion ain't shit, unless this champion is fighting Mike fucking Tyson when Tyson was 20 years old and

just smashing everybody and you knew, oh my god, this is going to be the youngest ever heavyweight champion, then you focus on that guy with the same amount of fervor that it demands. Right. But that's not the case here. You're talking about an insanely, like in that particular Ronda Rousey fight, an insanely dangerous champion who just smashed Mesa Tate. And you're talking about an X factor where like, we really don't know what we're going

to get. Exactly. Let's hope for the best and put all the money in it. Yeah. Right. That's fucking insane. But also, you have an insanely marketable champion. First of all, the first ever openly gay women's MMA champion and man's.

She's never been an openly gay MMA champion. Right. So you have the whole LGBTQ, whatever they are now. A? Is there an A there? It's about 8% of the population. It's 8 plus. It's 8 plus.

But still, you've got a leader for them. But you have also a bunch of people that respect that and are progressive people that say, hey, this is great. Like, look, it shows how diverse the UFC is. Sure. And her story's amazing. Yeah. And this stupid shit that Meryl Streep said the other day, like one of the reasons why

she probably said it is because she's seeing Ronda Rousey's face plastered all over the place and she's saying, hey, you hey, you take foreigners out of Hollywood, you're going to be left with football and MMA. She doesn't understand that MMA, like you saw tonight with Yair Rodriguez, is 80% foreigners. She's so wrong about that. And that's also art. That jumping, spinning back kick would be art. Oh, come on.

You tell me that 360 round kick that he fucking landed. It's just like dance, but harder. Jesus Christ. He's going to hit somebody with it. Yes. It's just like rhythmic gymnastics. Hell yes. Christ. He's got to hit somebody with it. Yes, it's just like rhythmic gymnastics. Hell yes. She just doesn't know. She's uneducated.

I mean, if dance is an art, then gymnastics in competition is also an art, because it's very similar. It's just under more pressure, right? So if gymnastics is an art, how the fuck is, how are 360 round kicks not, oh shit, that guy on the ground is a bad motherfucker. Hey, it's weird she used her Lifetime Achievement Award to talk shit about MMA and football.

Well, I think she was making a clumsy larger point. Yes. For sure celebrate what you... Oh, did Nina Ansaroff get caught? No, Nina Ansaroff won. Whoa. Rear naked. Round three. That's Amanda Nunez's girlfriend. Holla! Yeah, holla Saroff won. Whoa. Rear naked. Round three. That's Amanda Nunez's girlfriend.

Holla. Yeah, holla. Get some. Red panty night. Get some. Red panty night. That's awesome. That is an awesome story, huh?

Listen, man, she's a bad motherfucker. Amanda Nunez? Yeah, I guess she is a motherfucker. She's a motherfucker. Yeah, she's a motherfucker. She's a motherfucker. She's a fucking world champion, man. A legit champion.

She'd be tough to beat. Who's her biggest challenge, you think? She's got a lot of big challenges. Shevchenko's a good challenge, and so is Julianna Pena. Pena would be tough, too. Whoever wins that fight steps up and emerges. Outside that, though. Well, listen, Holly and whoever the fuck wins that fight versus Holly and Jermaine Durandame,

it's a very interesting fight because if Shevchenko and we'll see you got Shevchenko you've got Jermaine Durand-Dumé and you get Holly Holm. Those are three super advanced strikers that could wind up facing Amanda Nunes. But I don't think you go... I don't think Nunes can jump to 45 right

now and vacate the back 35. Fuck yes she can. Do whatever the fuck you want to do. Just pure chaos. Chaos! I got an idea. What the fuck is And here's the bed 35. Do whatever the fuck you want to do. Just pure chaos. Chaos! I got an idea. What the fuck is the... And here's the dark horse. Kat Zingano. Kat Zingano beat Amanda Nunes and she stopped her. She's not active enough. She's not active enough.

But if she ramps it up, she ramps it up, she's still in the heat. Let's get ramped up then. I love you Kat. Let's get ramped the fuck up then. She's badass. I agree. I like it. There's a lot going on, man. She's been dealing with some injuries. So then Amanda just vacates that belt or two-time champ...

Champ champ. She becomes champ champ. Champ champ. Female champ champ. First female champ champ. Fuck's sakes. Why not, man? And then CM Punk's headlining a fucking pay-per-view.

I don't know, man. I think Amanda has the one quality that I think that everybody wants to see. And she has the ability to stop women. I mean, fucking stop them. The way she stopped Sarah. The way she stopped Misha. She smashes people. She's murked two legends.

And then she jerks them. Yep. She's murked two legends. Yeah. She feels like she seems faster. She seems just generally more explosive than every female by far. Not Cyborg. She's very long.

Cyborg's on drugs, though. Cyborg's 100 pounds heavier, though. That's different. Cyborg's so big. Cyborg's not 235. She's 80,000 pounds. She's 235. She's a building.

She's a building with feet. She's submitted. She hired the same lawyer as John Jones and Lesnar. You see that? That motherfucker's nasty. Who's the lawyer? Nasty. Whoever got OJ out?

Nasty. No. No, I don't know. They got to hire some powerful shit, though. She hired Johnny Cochran. He's dead. I know. I think that, you know, look, she's, obviously, she's got a real problem.

But I don't even think she really is a 145-er. I think Cyborg's a 155-er. I wouldn't say 185-er. I mean, that's what she's probably walking around at. But if she, white now, decided to fight whatever her natural weight is. We've been pushing this for a while. I think that's the future. I think the future is you show up

at people's camps randomly, just the same way you're doing USADA tests. You do it for fucking six months. You test them. You find out what they actually fucking weigh. What do you weigh? What do you weigh when you're training? You never know when they're coming, so you have to stay light. And you have to find out, oh, look, Brian Callen, you're 175. That's what you weigh. Not 145,

you're 175. That's what you fight at. And so you have an obligation to get to your lowest body fat, and you know that the UFC is coming knocking on your door with weight tests before you train. It's going to be too many weight classes. Well, no one's going to know. No one's going to know when this happens, and then you sit it down, and you blow up

the fucking champions. You blow up the whole thing and you start from scratch 37 champions You have a world series of champions Just everyone's a champ Every 10 pounds You have the opportunity to lose some body fat You know what that's what they're doing now though Look at all these interim belts

They might as well do it No I'm just saying everyone's getting a belt Might as well fucking have 10 pounds There's a couple belts thrown around. Tony Ferguson, Tony Henderson, and Kalebib. I think Ferguson and Henderson is such a, or Ferguson and Kalebib is such a good fight. Best fight of the year so far. I don't care.

I need it five rounds. I don't give a fuck how many belts are in line. Yeah. Oh, he fucked up Victor Peska. Oh, he's doing that there. Look, he was doing it from a standing position. Oh, no. Look at that. So he went for it

earlier, and then Peska gets on top, and so he wraps his arm around, and then he lets Peska mount him. He doesn't even try to stop the mount. And he just sinks it in from the bottom. He's putting a karate, his hand is in a karate chop like that. Very interesting. First Ezekiel choke finish in UFC history.

And he did it from being mounted. That's a hard-looking man. That is so incredible. I feel like otherwise you're just going to keep doing the same thing over and over. How much does Tyron Woodley weigh right now? Tell you what, it's not 170! Fuck no. What's he, every bit of 200 and shredded?

He's huge. He's giant. He's not tall. Hey, real quick, that Todd Grissom is not tall. Hey, real quick. That Todd Grissom said me and him have the same haircut. I beg to differ, sir. It doesn't matter. It is not the same.

That's the first time I've seen this haircut. They're going over the submission. Really fascinating. I wonder if other people are going to try to pull this off. Oh, that's tough to pull off. Obviously, he's got it down, Pat. So he gets this. That's some Russian shit.

And the other guy's fucking punched him in the head here. And he lets him pass and he forces him to stay there. Oh, man. Incredible. He grapevined his legs from the outside. Yep. Yep. Crazy.

He's kind of holding on to him. Yeah. Like he's trying to create space or something. Because I wonder. It's interesting that he doesn't get his. He doesn't get this in. He doesn't work on. I wonder if he were to pass, what would it be?

Right, right, right. We'd have to fuck with it after this. Well, you'd have to go like knee to belly maybe and put some pressure. I don't know, is it more pressure? Yeah. Yeah. Well, knee to belly, if you go knee to belly from there, say if you pass, instead of mount, instead if you like go to one side.

You know, Eddie Bravo doesn't mount anymore. We were having this discussion about this. I think it was on the podcast. It was on here. And he's saying because he got submitted from this and he just does knee to belly. Well, so many people are so good at that now. Guys with a lot of leg dexterity and flexibility. They pop the hips and they throw their legs.

But they also go for the ankle lock. And they're so tight with that. Especially like, you know, Eddie rolls a lot of times with either gi pants on or with tights, with spats. And so if you got those rash guards on, man, it creates a lot of friction. Different game. Yeah. It's one of the reasons why a lot of the real high-level leg lock guys, you see Gary Tonin, you see Eddie Cummins, they wear shorts.

That's right. Yeah. Which is really even more impressive that you can catch those things because that was part of the reason why a lot of guys like Aoki would wear those crazy tights was for that extra traction. He was known for them, too. Yeah, that was awesome.

Yeah. Then when he took them off, it wasn't shit. If you think about it. Shit. He took them off, got his ass whooped. Shit. Got his ass whooped. He also had to deal with elbows, too, right?

Yeah, either way, he got his ass whooped. You got a spot somewhere? I'm going to have to go home and see my wife. Oh. Way to go. She had a reason, sir. Way to go, bro. Just trying to sling some dick? Yeah. All right. Sling some dick to the wife. I'm going to have to go home and see my wife. Oh. There's no shit reason, sir. There you go, bro. Slang some

dick? Yeah. Alright. Slang some dick to the wife. I'm going to gift her my piece. Alright. Honey, you just earned this. I'm 49. We wrap this up. It's 10 past 10. This is a fun podcast. Hell yeah, guys. We actually talked some fighting. We did. We definitely talked the main fight. And I want you guys

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