The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - January 9, 2020
Episode Date: January 10, 2020Joe is joined by Eddie Bravo, Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub. ...
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Yee-haw! Bodies. What do they do with the bodies? Before that, though. There was something before that. Mines, fields, size of Paris.
No, it was even before that.
Oh, meat carnivore diet.
Oh, okay.
Maybe it's that.
Yeah.
So I'm 10 days in, I think.
Something like that.
Today's the 9th.
So I'm 11 days in.
I started a couple of days before, and I've been eating nothing but meat.
Bacon, steak, elk meat, a lot of extra fat.
If I eat the elk meat, I eat a lot of bacon.
How's that cholesterol son?
I don't know
I got my blood work done
Last Monday
I'll get the results back soon
And then I'm going to do it again
At the end of the month
But I've already lost 7 pounds
You feel good?
Dude
I feel slim
You look good
When he came in
I was like
Yeah he's looking tight
Boy's thick
I lost my belly
I had a gut
I was getting a gut
I was getting
This is where I get fat instantly, right here.
It goes right here, and then it starts pushing out.
I think all dudes do, right?
I don't know.
Some people get it in their face.
I get it in my face, too.
I feel it in my face when I'm washing my face.
My face feels small.
Oh, totally.
I get it in both.
Yeah.
But that's weird that you feel your face.
You're like, damn, my face feels small.
You know the shape of your face.
You wash your face every day, so you get in there, and you're like, oh face feels small you know the shape of your face from can you wash
your face every day so you get in there you're like oh this is like less face also a fat face
is a bummer it's a bummer yeah i'm fatter than i've been ever i'm like 190 right now jesus yeah
but here's the thing that's good about it i'll tell you what's bad about it first diarrhea
is rough and eating only steak gets boring i like diarrhea but the kind of diarrhea that i'm talking
about is like confusing it's like you gotta run like you do not trust your butthole it's like
you know it's not telling you until the fire is at the door it's not seeing the fire in the horizon
and warning you to get to the bathroom it's like the fire is at it's making your doorknob hot
what if you're what if you're starving you're far home, and there's a Burger King and that's it?
There's a Burger King for the next-
I'll just order four Whoppers, and then I'll take the meat out of them, and I'll just eat the meat.
Gangster.
That's it.
Yeah.
I'm going to do it for the whole month.
I had an olive.
I guess I cheated a little.
How dare you?
I had an olive.
Fuck, dude.
I've had A glass of wine
Here and there
And I guess that's
You know
But that's just drinking things
Why'd you decide to do it?
I want to see what's up
Because I know a lot of people
That I respect
That have tried
Like Jordan Peterson in particular
That guy's a fucking genius
And when he's telling me
What a massive impact
It's had on him
Cognitively
He said that intellectually
He said in his prime
He said all of his immune system, autoimmune
issues went away.
And vitiligo is an autoimmune issue.
So I'm seeing what happens with that too.
But that isn't really spreading any.
But with him, he was having gum issues, receding gums.
That went away.
His gums actually came back.
Didn't his daughter, wasn't his daughter sick too?
That's why they started it?
She's got serious arthritis
Like really bad
But it helped it right?
See this is what it is
It's an elimination diet
So instead of your diet
Breaking down a bunch of different things
It's just breaking down one thing
And this one thing
That human beings have been eating
Since the beginning of time
Like this idea that human beings are herbivores
Is pretty much nonsense
One of the main reasons
Why we became what we are
They think is because we started eating meat
We started getting better access to protein
From cooking it
Because we figured out how to harness fire
And then through hunting
We started getting more devious
And started thinking
And having better critical skills
And then eating mushrooms
I think all those things
But that's just the mechanics
Are you taking supplements though?
Oh yeah yeah Yeah because you have to though? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, because you have to, right?
You're not getting every.
No, I wouldn't think you would.
You think you have any fans
that are vegan?
Oh hell yeah.
You do?
I meet them all the time.
Because I have a couple
of vegan students that,
man, one said,
I don't listen to JRE no more
because he talks too much about meat.
And he's like,
full blown vegan.
God.
I talk too much about meat.
That's your trigger?
Yeah.
That's your trigger?
That's about hunting the meat?
And it's not Einstein.
It's not Einstein.
No, I love Einstein.
It's Mexican.
Mexican.
Dude, 95% to 97% of the population of the planet Earth eats meat.
This is what vegans are.
It's very loud and very vocal.
But they want to make it
look like there's this massive movement like no it's i don't know you know i don't know what your
body feels like when you eat things everybody's body is different everybody's body reacts to
nutrients differently except for processed foods we can all agree that's not good for anybody yeah
processed foods and sugar are all bad for everyone the reason why people are so fucking fat the reason why everyone's so fat is carbohydrates
and fat and sugar and all of it mixed up together in massive portions and sedentary lifestyle there's
a bunch of factors so i've killed a bunch of those factors right i killed the sedentary lifestyle
i exercise a lot um i and then i killed most of the sugar most of the bullshit and then before i went on
this diet i i had gotten off the rails a little bit too many too many carbs too much pasta i was
eating like fucking subs yeah i fell off hard you ever go to dan super subs no oh son right
out there in ventura oh really oh hell yeah oh you got to get the giant you got gotta get the giant Pastrami The giant pastrami, holy shit is it good
And it's all bread
Fatty pastrami
Look man, that's a lot of calories
You gotta run some Cam Haines type miles
To burn off that shit
So all the different things that can fuck with your health
And all the different things
What makes you feel good and what makes you feel bad
Depending upon your biology Your lifestyle, I'm yeah so this is my experiment for the month
just meat for the month so far this is the most amazing thing i would just oh sorry sorry energy
levels like this straight there's no fluctuations because the carbs insulin there's no carbs there's
no carbs i'm not having any carbs yeah i, I'm saying before, you were probably eating carbs. There's some form of carb.
Yeah, for sure.
So your insulin was spiking in your days like this.
Dude, I would love pasta.
It's so bad.
I would make like elk sausage in a big bowl of spaghetti.
It's so good.
God, that sounds nice.
It's so good in the moment.
But afterwards, the amount of time that it feels good versus the amount of time it doesn't feel good is so massive.
Oh, I hate myself afterwards. I hate myself. But the amount of time it feels good versus the amount of time it doesn't feel good. It's so massive. Oh, I hate myself afterwards.
I hate myself.
But the amount of time it feels good is like five minutes.
But goddamn, that's a good five.
It's a good five.
It's a great five.
It's a tight five.
It fucks with your whole day.
It's so nice.
Like, think of it this way.
How often would you want to get laid if every time you got laid,
you gained 20 pounds?
You'd be like, every time I'm getting laid, I just keep getting fat.
Once a month, then.
Once a month.
Yeah.
Just ride it out.
I'd have to see it.
At the end of the month, drop that weight down again, start looking fresh, get laid.
Jerking off, do you gain like five pounds?
No, you don't gain anything jerking off.
I would have to see her.
Your boy might get fat if she's bad enough.
If she's hot enough.
Then five other pounds.
If she's willing to fuck you while you're fat, too.
That's a special girl.
Special girl doesn't get turned off at all by your big, fat gut.
Doesn't give a fuck.
She doesn't care if you gain that weight.
They're out there.
They're out there.
They're out there.
Chubby chases, bro.
So this is obviously the Goldilocks period.
It's a honeymoon, right?
It just started.
And you're into it?
I don't know.
I don't know what this is. I don't know. I don't know what this is.
I don't know if I'm going to keep doing it.
Usually about 13 days in, that's where people break.
We're like, fuck this, dude.
Or, I'm not feeling great.
It was really boring about five days in.
But like I said, now, is today the 9th?
So today's the 11th day in.
Today was no problem.
I know what I'm doing.
My biggest issue I put on weight, especially in December was uh the road because i wrote it wherever i go philly it's cheese steaks or
new york it's pizza it's just it's just you know there's gonna be more discipline it's late too
because you know you get done at 1 2 a.m yep yep i gotta figure it out yeah um people did eat like
this though there's human beings that have eaten like this for long periods of time.
The idea that they didn't is crazy.
Inuits eat like this.
Native Americans, the Comanches ate like this.
Comanches barely ate anything other than buffalo.
Have you ever seen a Comanche and been like, God damn, I don't want to look like that?
Well, they're all dead, Brendan.
That's what I'm saying, dude.
Yeah, but that's because Americans had guns.
They were probably shredded as fuck.
Are you kidding me? They had patches? Well, there's a difference between shredded and malnourished, Eddie. Well, but that's because Americans had guns. They were probably shredded as fuck. Are you kidding me?
Apache?
Well, there's a difference between shredded and malnourished, Eddie.
Well, some of them were giant.
Come on, man.
Some of them were malnourished.
The Comanches weren't necessarily malnourished.
I mean, in occasional bouts of famine, they were.
But for the most part, they were following the buffalo.
Every caveman was Tread City, though.
You know what I'm saying?
Maybe.
There's no fat cavemen.
There's no fat Indians.
Right, right. They didn't have a chance
To get fat
They got older
Once the
Settlers moved in though
And they started living
On reservations
And getting white man food
They all got fat
I'm reading this book
About it now
They didn't know
What to do with flour
So they would just
Try to eat it
They didn't know
How to cook it
So they would just
Try to eat it
They were fucking starving
When the
White men took over
And pushed the Navajo
Into reservations And we sneezed on them And like took out all of them Bro 90% of them dead When the white men tick over and push the Navajo into reservations.
Then we sneezed on them and took out all of them.
Bro, 90% of them dead.
Achoo!
Dead.
I'm reading this account.
I'm reading this.
It's horrific.
They set up this reservation and everybody got syphilis.
Everybody.
Everybody's banging everybody and they all got syphilis and people's hair is falling out.
They have ulcers all over their body and people are going crazy and dying. Fuck, man. They can solve syphilis And people's hair is falling out They have ulcers all over their body And people are going crazy and dying
Fuck man
They can solve syphilis now right?
Today
You're all good now
Like Al Capone died of syphilis
All you anti-vaccination motherfuckers
You need to pay attention to syphilis
Polio
There's a lot of shit
Smallpox
It gotta be
Right?
There's a
Not for kids
There's a Hep C
It's made for kids
What are you talking about?
What is that?
HPV HPV?
HPV, yeah.
They have a vaccination for that now?
They have a vaccination for everything now.
It can be a problem.
Dude, back then, that's only 150 years ago.
Living those days, catching diseases, they didn't even know what it was.
People just start dying.
Game over.
Black flag?
No idea.
See ya.
Who knows how much of all that shit is a career? History is just so full of deception. even know what it was people just start dying game over black plague no idea like who knows
how much of all that shit is a career you know history is just so full of deception like
what if what if like what if like hell yeah like jealous white people would just say like he's
saying hell yeah because you're getting into conspiracies yeah this is the top of my hat
well this is the top of now what if what if all that shit uh all the indians had syphilis we're
like jealous white not the indians everybody the Indians had syphilis, were like jealous white dudes.
Not the Indians, everybody.
The soldiers had syphilis.
Everyone had syphilis.
Okay, okay.
You know what I'm saying, right?
Indians got syphilis.
You don't want to fuck them.
Meanwhile, the white chicks wanted to fuck the Indians.
They're like, let's go fuck the Indians.
It's a slow story of a disastrous idea by this General Carlton guy who wanted these guys to move into this area.
He wanted to move off the reservations to New Mexico, and they had this area set aside
for them.
But they cut down all the trees for firewood.
They started running out of food.
Too many people were coming in.
They took away all their guns, and then the Comanches found them, so the Comanches were
attacking the Navajo.
God damn.
Dude, it's horrific.
Reading this, I mean, even though I have it 150 years ago my hands are sweating i'm like these people are fucked they're surrounded
by thousands of hostile indians they're just kidnapping their kids raping their women killing
people taking away all their horses and there's like a sitting duck on this reservation dude the
fucking the shit people had to go through just 150 years ago. It's horrific.
But without it, you know, you wouldn't be able to just fly into Albuquerque and go to Jackson's.
True.
And 15 fucking Native Americans trying to kill you everywhere.
Or fly into Jeffrey Epstein's ranch in Albuquerque.
Do you have a ranch there?
Not only does he have a ranch there, but he's got a mile away, he actually owns a Western world.
It's like Westworld.
Dude, 60 minutes?
The elites, that's where they hang out.
Jeffrey Epstein's Western town.
In Albuquerque?
In Albuquerque.
60 minutes had a piece about how the suicide is fake.
60 minutes.
Did you see in his little cell, there's like 10 different freaking outfit jumpsuits.
There's a cord.
There's a pen.
It's nuts.
And his brother's the one who hired this outside lawyer.
And the lawyer's like, I know it looks like I'm here to be like, oh, no.
I'm telling you, look at all this stuff.
Here's the evidence.
Well, the Michael Badden guy, that guy from the HBO autopsy series, series i mean that guy has done thousands of autopsies and he's a real
expert he's like i've never seen anyone who was who hung themselves with injuries like this
especially where the mark's at who knows who knows if if that's all just a distraction to like uh
get people arguing make it so obvious that it was it wasn't a suicide. It's so obvious
Let's release it make it so obvious meanwhile
He's still alive and everyone's trying to figure out how he died and and all they care about is that he's dead
You think he's dead anything is pretty deep chess
He's one step ahead of us. That's why so good at you. Why would they have why?
We're just causing a fucking triangle on their first
why would they have why would they be pushing a fucking triangle on their first there's virtually a media blackout on it for the longest time but they gotta talk about something because the longer
the mainstream media doesn't talk about it the more obvious it looks and it's waking everybody
up you know how many people who are super anti-conspiracy theorists are all into epstein
now it's like when 9-11 happened that woke up a lot of-11 happened, that woke up a lot of people. 9-11 woke people up.
A lot of people say,
well, it started with 9-11.
A lot of shit's gonna,
people are gonna say
it started with Jeffrey Epstein
because it's so obvious.
Epstein, even my dad's like,
it's so obvious.
What are we doing?
What we're seeing now is,
Michael Shermer.
Michael Shermer's
calling it a conspiracy.
Everybody.
People that hate
conspiracy theorists
are all into it.
Yeah, Michael Shermer.
I'm so balls deep
and there's a guy on YouTube who every day he puts out, conspiracy theorists are all into it. Michael Shermer. I'm so balls deep.
There's a guy on YouTube every day he puts out, all he does is
he's written books on gangsters and all that.
Every day he puts out an
Epstein video, an update, and he just goes
deeper and deeper and deeper. His name is
Sean Atwood. What's the update every day
though? Dude, it would
take me two hours to go into.
It's really all about gisling maxwell's
father he was the one who was originally doing what epstein was doing epstein took so epstein
started banging just lane she takes him she goes you know what you're going to take over the family
business the family business is it's not just blackmailing the elite. That's part of it. But the man.
A big part of it, right?
A big part of it.
Dude, her father, he's the one.
Robert Maxwell.
That guy was a, dude, he worked.
I love this shit.
I don't know.
I'm afraid to talk about this shit, dude.
I don't know.
He's dead.
Listen to Sean Atwood.
Okay, well, we'll have people go to that guy's page.
It's incredible how deep it is.
It's the first conspiracy.
It's the first conspiracy in modern times where everyone is like, no way.
Ah, JFK.
He's so deep.
No, no, JFK, there's still people to this day that think that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.
A lot of them, including people that have written like good.
What is that?
What's that guy's name?
He wrote Case Closed.
William whatever. people that have written like good what is that um is that guy's name he wrote case closed uh william whatever uh there's there's been a lot of credible people that think that
oswald acted alone i don't think so that's so crazy i don't think so that's ridiculous
that's like epstein again but this one this ain't the first epstein they happen all the time no one's
defending it yeah no one no one's saying no one's coming out defending it. No one's saying. No one's coming out to defend it. The government's just silent. I think there's a good chance that he's alive.
I think he's alive.
That's crazy.
That's where.
I think they're just distracting everybody.
Oh, it wasn't a suicide.
I want him to be alive because it would make this even more fun.
If we're in Europe, you're like.
Anything's possible.
It's already crazy as fuck.
The amount of deception that's shoved down our throats, it's obvious now.
It's all out in the open.
So any plausible theory, you can't laugh at.
Dude, he's in Thailand.
He could easily be alive.
I agree.
He could easily be alive.
He's in Thailand right now.
Totally.
With bandages all over his face, watching TV from the hospital.
Exactly.
Exactly.
He did full facial reconstruction surgery.
Fuck, yeah.
Hey, man.
They could change your face.
Why did they need to show 9,000 jumpsuits and shit?
That was weird. They're making it so obvious. How did,000 jumpsuits and shit? They're making it so obvious.
How did those jumpsuits get in there?
Dude, it's so obvious.
It's obvious.
It's too obvious.
I'm with Eddie on this one for real.
It's the most obvious one of all time.
Look at all those jumpsuits.
Come on, man.
How about 2020 showed his dead body on TV?
The craziest thing, the craziest thing besides all that, the craziest thing is like, where's
the video footage? Oh, the cameras weren't working. Oh, no, no, no. Did you see? That's the craziest shit ever thing is like, where's the video footage?
Oh, the cameras weren't working.
Oh, no, no, no.
Did you not see the new video footage?
The new video footage was accidentally erased.
That's insane.
The first video footage.
They're doing that on purpose.
The video from Jeffrey Epstein's suicide attempt is gone, jail officials.
Inadvertently preserved footage from wrong floor.
Hey, government, if you're going to kill someone Do better though
We got this one
The first suicide attempt
If you were part of this
This
This
Network of like elite people
Right
Like he's definitely
He definitely has
A lot of power
Right
Wouldn't you
Wouldn't there be like
Wouldn't you think
It would be a good idea
To all get together
And say listen
Every now and then
Some dude's gonna
We're gonna have to sacrifice
One of you guys
And just fake your death And you're gonna have to to sacrifice one of you guys and just fake your death.
And then you're going to have to go to one of the islands in Japan or one of
the,
they probably have so many spots set up.
Wouldn't it be smart?
Go set up some spots and in like the Greek islands or somewhere like off
North,
the coast of Norway,
Greenland,
Greenland could,
who knows what's in Greenland.
They can have all these cities for,
for like all these people that like they die, but you never see their bodies. They could just say, you know, they can have all these cities for, like all these people that like, they die,
but you never see their bodies.
They could just say, you know, people used to fake their deaths all the time back in
the 30s and 40s.
Yeah, but that was before the internet.
It'd be way easier to just kill Epstein.
Way easier.
Way easier.
Especially when he's in the cell.
Dude, you don't think he has a kill switch?
You don't think that dude did?
I think he probably does.
You know, dude, man, I wish I could tell you all this shit.
That's why Justine Maxwell's alive.
You can't tell us? You wish you it's dark dude this is the stuff i like
going it's dark eddie i'll tell you guys about this out but sean atwood that that guy holy shit
he's he's he's dug in so deep like so deep like the neighbor that the property that's right next
to the one in in manhattan that les wexner gave him for $0. Hey, man, that's a nice person.
It's a good friend.
Nice friend.
Gives you a $70 million house.
You know what,
people always jump on that,
but that's not that crazy
because back in the 80s,
apparently,
like Sean Atwood saying,
that's not that crazy
because people used to do that
all the time to save on taxes,
so that ain't a big deal.
Maybe Epstein did pay him
whatever it was worth.
They would often do that and just say it's zero.
It's not the craziest thing.
It's not the craziest thing.
But the property next to that mansion, the history of that shit, damn, I wish we could go over that, man.
It's crazy.
Epstein has been involved in intelligence for a very long time.
Very long time.
As long as the Iran-Contra scandal.
Remember that?
A lot of drugs coming in.
It's like all this illegal black ops.
George Sr. was the main el patron.
Epstein was one of the workers.
His girl's in hiding, right, Eddie?
Because they said she was a CIA informant.
Who? Jim Maxwell. Yes. She's like hiding.
Who?
The main chick?
Ghislaine Maxwell.
Yes.
She was the main one.
Yeah.
She brought Epstein into the operation.
Her father was the one.
Epstein took over for her father, Robert Maxwell.
That's what's going on.
She's more powerful than Epstein.
And they can't find her now.
They won't touch her.
They're not going to touch her.
You don't think she has a kill switch?
I guarantee you she's in touch with people.
It only makes sense.
Her father was the master of blackmailing people.
That's what he did.
Just give me an idea what that place was next door.
It's just when you go through the owners,
like there's like,
there's so,
see the thing,
what's going on now is the biggest phenomenon
that's going on right now is with the internet. The internet is
like backfiring
and it's boomeranging back at the
people. The internet was intended
to control us and
surveil us. And now
what's happening... No, it wasn't. The internet was intended for
scientists to share information at universities.
It was invented for universities.
That's your opinion.
That's why they invented it. So they didn't have to call each other and send packages in the mail.
No.
No?
That could be one of the reasons.
The internet was...
The people that invented the internet, why'd they invent it?
It was all funded by the CIA.
It was all a way to keep...
It's always about the New World Order.
It's always about the easiest way to control us
that's all so okay there's this
software
Robert Maxwell
Robert Maxwell Ghislaine's father
one of his jobs
was
man I don't know if I should talk about this shit
I'm not going to talk about it
I don't want to talk about it
I was reading something that I'm writing this bit about a real thing that happened with the CIA in the 1950s.
And it's called Operation Midnight Climax.
And MKUltra, Eddie knows what that is.
I know what that is.
Mind control experiments from the CIA.
They had 6% of the CIA's budget.
And there was no oversight.
They could spend it on whatever they wanted.
And what they were doing was just dosing the fuck out of people with LSD.
They dosed this one guy 77 days in a row.
Jesus Christ.
And they ran out of people that were willing to do it.
Because a lot of times it was college students.
That's how they toasted the Unabomber.
That's where Manzi came from, too.
Well, a lot of these people, they cooked their brain with acid.
Well, they did that with, they ran out of people, so they started opening up brothels.
So they opened up whorehouses, and they called it Operation Midnight Climax.
So they would hire hookers, and the hookers would dose these guys up.
They'd give them a drink that was filled with acid.
And then fuck them?
And then fuck them on film.
How much did they charge?
What a great gig.
Good question. What a great gig. LSD and sex? And then fuck them on film. How much did they charge? What a great gig. Good question.
What a great gig.
LSD and sex?
And so they would film it through like two-way glass.
Wow.
Yeah.
And so they're sitting there.
Their whole budget was being spent on dosing guys and watching guys fuck.
It's hilarious.
USA.
I mean, they did it for a long...
CIA chief deplores CIA brothels.
What year is this?
That looks like 1952.
1977, San Francisco.
By that time, they'd been doing it for more than 20 years.
I was reading a book on this stuff, and when they were dosing everyone, the LSD and acid
on stuff in Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco, that's where Manson came out of.
The whole family came out of there from all the LSD with the CIA and stuff.
Okay, so it ended 12 years ago.
It ended 12 years ago.
You've been studying.
I'm telling you, bro.
They're all past history.
Turner said in San Francisco, the CIA.
So the CIA had said, that was terrible, and that's past history.
We don't do that anymore.
It's been 12 years.
At what point?
This is just the tip of the iceberg. We can go on for five hours with this shit it's almost like the cia was created
as a scapegoat like all because the cia ain't going to jail where this how do you put cia in
jail you can't and then the directors they're only there temporarily they're in out everyone
like goes through it but it's a re like if you find out some evil shit's going on, CIA did it.
CIA ain't going to jail.
True.
Everyone says the CIA is nefarious and doing all this crazy shit.
Eddie's one step ahead of us on this.
Dude, every time.
Catch us in the triangle.
That's all I do, baby.
That's all I do.
That is all you do.
I know.
It's crazy.
You would love this.
I'm reading a book now where say hired two mafia guys to assassinate Castro.
It was a legit-
Plot.
Yes, whole plot.
So interesting.
It was like 635 tries on his life.
Yep.
Amazing.
That's a beast.
Something like that.
He died of old age.
Yeah, beast, right?
He even came to New York, and they still couldn't do shit to him.
That was before they really turned on him.
Because at first, the United States was backing him. Yep, and then JF couldn't do shit to him. Yeah, that was before they really turned on him because at first the United States was
Backing him. Yep, and then having it and then something happened they switch. There's a lot of different theories like maybe
He was working for that like Fidel Castro was
part of a CIA operation to overthrow the Batista regime maybe or and then once he got in he said fuck the CIA
fuck the United States and the CIA goes
okay we gotta kill this motherfucker. A lot of times
that happens. People turn.
Like the Kennedys turn. Osama Bin Laden.
Because the Kennedys come from
a crime family. The mob put Kennedy in.
Their dad. So something happened between
Robert and John where they were
you know that was his attorney general. That's who he hired.
So once they got together something happened and made them flip.
Some people say that JFK, I don't know if it's true or not,
like his son died at an early age.
Just one of his kids died.
And from that point on, he decided to do the right thing and just say, fuck it.
And him and Robert knew they were going to get killed.
They would talk about it.
They knew they were going to get killed for doing what they're doing.
But they're just going to go out
with their boots on,
you know what I mean?
That's a theory.
I don't know,
maybe one crazy dude did it,
but come on.
Isn't history great, though?
Like, to have all this stuff
and go through all the different theories
and fucking...
Well, what's crazy with history
is now we can see it.
Before, people just told it.
It wasn't until, like,
the 20th century
that really people saw it.
Yeah.
Before that,
it was just people telling stories about stuff.
Who knows what's real, like from the 1700s.
They do their best to piece it together from multiple accounts, but it's really hard.
That's the Bible, isn't it?
Oh, the Bible's even worse.
The Bible's, I mean, it's a bunch of stories.
But not just that, a bunch of stories translated multiple times.
That's what I'm saying from a shitload of people.
But for sure it got translated and all that shit with the bible
but for sure i i'm a in my heart i'm a hundred i i believe it a hundred percent that there is some
stuff in the bible that's the real shit there is it comes from the real shit it got distorted and
translated and all that what do you mean by the real shit like like it's a manual on how to live
your life right you know what i I mean? These are rules.
Like maybe God is the idea.
Maybe God and Jesus is the frequency.
You want to get in that frequency of life?
Don't deceive anybody.
Don't kill each other.
Don't fuck each other up.
Then you will be in that zone.
That's what God is.
Like maybe the book is a manual.
It's got to be because there's one thing. i said i'm balls deep and and uh trying to
find the truth sometimes i'm wrong whatever truth but a lot of guys a lot of guys three different
guys that i looked up to and looked and asked for information because they were so into a certain
area that i wasn't into i'm like tell me more tell me more and they are like my mentors at the end
dude all of them they're starting to look into the bible and i remember the first guy
back in like 2005 when i was like full-blown like the you know against religion and all that um i
would say dude what are you doing dude you showed me the way and now you're looking in the bible
goes i know it sounds crazy but you gotta you gotta you gotta look into it too there's this
isn't just a book with crazy fairy tales this This is some real shit. Well, what it is is a historical account of the times of the people that lived back then,
as best they could tell it, translated down over thousands of years.
So there's some absolute truths in the Bible, and there's some great guides to live your life,
but there's also some nonsense.
For sure.
Walking on water and all that stuff.
Not just that.
Maybe ignore the nonsense.
God sicked two bears on these kids that were making fun of this
dude for being bald that there's like jack and jill stories for sure for sure for sure that's
in there you have to wonder how much of any of the original men uh stories well if you look at
mainstream history of like catholicism i grew up catholic you did too yeah catholic christian
christian well um the mainstream story name a branch lutheran uh no what's what's the what's the normal one protestant
protestant uh uh you're not nothing baptist i'm nothing i'm a deist you're agnostic right you're
not sure deist what if i believe there's a god but i don't believe in like jesus or okay you
think when you think about there's a god like I don't believe in like Jesus Okay When you think about There's a God
Like what's the thought
That comes through your head
Like what are you thinking
When you say
I think there's a God
I think there's a higher being
You know
A thing
I don't know
I don't know
I think
I think there's
The energy in our body
Goes somewhere
There's something that makes us
You know
Like I can feel certain things
Like love or intuition
Stuff like that That has to be something you know i think that goes somewhere i don't think there's
a heaven and hell jordan peterson has some really good advice on that he said whether or not you
believe in a god he goes live as if god is real and there's real benefits i believe that i think
it really if you really do have that kind of gratitude and
humility that you're you're being watched over by a loving god yeah i think there's a benefit
to thinking like it's just about doing the right thing yep it's all about how do we get the people
to do the right thing and i believe there's a god because um a couple things you know when when i i
did dmt uh i went into i thought okay there's more There's way more shit To this reality
This dimension
That
That's out there
That we're not seeing
All the time
And then the more
The more I get into
You know trying to find out
What we're on
And what
What this is all about
And then you look at the mainstream
I think someone created
What we're in
Whatever you want to
Whatever you think this is
Thinks assimilation
I think this is something
I don't believe in assimilation Me neither Why don't Think it's assimilation? I think this is something.
I don't believe in assimilation.
Why don't you believe in assimilation?
There's just no evidence. That bums me out.
When you think about your kids and shit, that bums me out.
There's no evidence.
But it could be true.
It could be, but there's zero evidence.
Really smart people don't just say-
I don't go by consensus, though.
Not only is there evidence, but if you look at probability theory.
What was that guy's name?
That was the guy,
Nick Bohlstrom.
We talked about it in depth
and he said,
according to probability theory,
it's more likely
that we're in a simulation.
Maybe.
Maybe that's true.
Because the fact that
simulations...
But that's like a measure,
isn't it?
I believe...
Almost inevitable.
Unless we get disrupted
by nature,
unless we get hit
with an asteroid
or start a nuclear war,
it's inevitable that technology reaches a point where simulation is possible.
Well, if you watch Rick and Morty, that's what it is.
Well, if simulation is real, then the simulation goes on forever in the space that everyone thinks there is.
It could be a wave of life.
An infinite computer program.
No, it's not that simple.
It could be one of the facets of life.
Like we could be creating a simulation just through culture and society,
and that simulation is literally how we enter into another dimension.
We're looking at it like it's some nonsense thing.
Like it's a simulation.
Oh, it's just a simulation.
It could literally be how dimensions are created.
They're created by creativity and ingenuity and innovation over long periods
of time with millions of people working in conjunction.
Different people figuring out
processing power and coding and
all these different things. And next thing you know, you've got these
there's these
virtual reality places. Like we have an Oculus
out there that you can put on and you can do all these
games. It's really fun. But there's some virtual
reality places now that you go into a warehouse
and you go through this whole thing. know there's uh there's a place that's in
disneyland and there's a another place down the street called sandbox and you play games
oh there's a there's an arcade there's vr arcade at the westfield mall on a riverside that's called
there's one right here parallel universe yes but don't you think if we're in a simulation
and you believe we're in a simulation if i was was not right in the head, it'd be wazer for me to commit suicide if I just think this is a whole simulation.
Yeah, I mean.
It gets dark, man.
There's a lot of variables.
There's a lot of variables about why should I just do whatever I want if it's just a simulation.
If it's a simulation, it doesn't count, does it?
I don't think it's that simple.
I think all the rules apply.
I think what they're trying to say is if human beings keep going, we definitely will create a simulation.
It's just a matter of time.
So if that's the case, how do we know that we're not in one already?
And we really don't.
Every day we go to sleep and every day we wake up and we assume and we have faith that all that stuff that we remember is really how life went on before we were awake.
But we really don't know.
When you black out and then come back to who the fuck knows what's transpiring who knows where your consciousness
goes who knows where you are you're gone eight hours seems like a second all of a sudden you're
foggy a couple minutes to wake up and boom where'd that time go where are you who are you you're
assuming that all of the stuff that you know and all the stuff that you experience is 100% real.
But what if it is real?
What do you mean?
If the simulation is real?
No, if the simulation isn't real and we are on this earth, it's possible too.
When it comes to simulation theory, I don't think the odds of that are prime.
But the passing out is a bad example.
The good example is that we are within 100 years away from making something that's indiscernible from what
we experience every day and that's inevitable it seems like just how people do it and what i'm
saying is that might literally be how your consciousness transforms into whatever next
stage of existence there is we might it might be something that human beings do like a caterpillar
makes a cocoon and becomes a butterfly
human beings make crazy fucking technology and i think that's one of the reasons why we're so
invested in materialism everybody loves things they love shiny things especially the new ones
all of you got the newest car it's even faster the newest computer has better graphics and as
all this stuff as we're paying for newer and better shit, it's fueling all this innovation, which making crazier and crazier technology until artificial intelligence, until we create something that you can't turn off.
Or you download your consciousness and you just, you know, you can download into another body or another.
That might be what a simulation is.
That might be what a simulation is.
is and what that might be what a simulation is what a simulation might be is that when we open this up with sufficient power and technology and processing power whatever you are might go into
this thing that's a bit of a bummer though right i don't know when you think about it like let's
say when you're 100 and finally technology there you just download your consciousness into another
body you just keep going it's like man this is it i don it? I don't know. This is it? We don't go on?
That's depressing as fuck to me.
What's kind of – I mean, what are we?
That's the thing.
It's like, what the fuck are we? When we're thinking and talking, when you're thinking of yourself, like you, when you're using the word I, I am going to do this.
I'm going – what does that mean?
Like, where are you?
You're this strange being that's got a finite lifespan.
It's not really that long
Not at all
You know I mean
Eddie and I are middle aged
Motherfuckers if we're lucky
You're on the back
You're on the back nine
We're on the back nine
I'm almost there
Yeah and then you die
So what is going on
While you're alive
It's all guess work man
We don't know what this is
And everyone is involved
In the guess work
From the highest levels
Of government
Down to fucking
The poorest people in the world
Everyone's guessing
It's all weird It's all real weird And it's all we're gonna die and the next
generation is gonna pick up and the next generation after them is gonna pick up but but life is it
because of technology and science you're you know the the average lifespan's going like this it is
but also you you have more information you can look at history you can look at how long we've
been here the more
they start they just found another asteroid impact from 800 000 years ago jesus they knew we were hit
800 000 years ago but now they've located the crater it's like would you read that in the
library yes i've watched it on youtube this it's becoming this you know people are realizing like
there's there's only been a short amount of time where human beings have even been human we've only been human for half a million years at the most none of that stuff bumps you
out especially have kids you know it's weird well if but think about it this way if you were a
neanderthal or you know a fucking australia pithicus and you know you were told that your
species is going to go extinct you think all the good times you had killing muskrats and cooking
them over the fire with your kids and and hiding from jaguars and shit you think all those good
times like this is we're not going to be us anymore like no you think you think if this is
a computer simulation at what point like when did it start like in 1800s the 1600s uh 200 a.d
5000 bc at when did when was the beginning of this simulation?
Who knows, man?
We don't know.
There's a video game where you create your own worlds.
SimCity, baby.
No, no, no.
More crazy.
There's a video game where you literally create a universe.
You create a planet.
You put things on it.
What is that game called again, Jamie?
What is it?
Oddworld.
No Man's Sky?
Yeah.
I think that's what you're talking about.
That could be what the
universe is i mean the whole thing about the big bang like the big bang means that the entire
universe is smaller than the head of a pin at one point in time somewhere around no but hold on a
second so the universe smaller than the head of a pin boom explodes becomes everything well what
started that well how do we not know that that was when somebody pressed start on a program?
How do we even know that even happened?
The theory is billions of years ago, out of nothing, everything exploded.
What do you think happened?
Well, you know who came up with it.
Are you becoming religious on me?
You know who came up with it.
Dude, if you start talking about Jesus, Eddie.
Are you becoming religious on me?
Are you coming up with the Big Bang?
You can look this up right now.
The Big Bang is a priest from the Vatican.
A priest came up with that.
There was a theory.
Scientist didn't?
Nope.
A priest.
Are you sure?
A million percent.
So he was the first one.
And I have a good idea why.
Why?
That's going to take like 10 minutes.
Can I have another one of those?
Yeah, please.
I'll get someone who's icing that thing. You know, if one of those? Yeah, please. He's talking to someone.
There's ice in that thing.
You know, if we're in a simulation, you're talking about the homeless guy or the kid starving in Ethiopia.
He's like, what the fuck, dude?
The guy grinding his way out or the single mother of five working at McDonald's.
She's like, who the fuck chose this?
What is going on here, man?
So I feel like only people who are higher up and people that have money say we're in
a simulation.
Yes, the guy at McDonald's. I bet you there's not one dude we're gonna mcdonald's going i think it's a simulation dude that's true but that's just because when you're struggling
for survival everything is more important like you're you're on the edge but the thing about
a guy like elon musk who's one of the proponents of the simulation theory the thing about a guy
like him is he's got enough resources to relax a little bit but also he is involved in technology every day and he's probably
one of the smartest people on earth and he's financially stable so he can stop and think
and think about things in a way where he's not he's not overburdened by like he has stresses
for sure and obligations for sure massive ones three giant companies
but what he doesn't have is like survival stress survival stress about be like being poor or being
in danger but also the level that where his iq is so high right he's on a different frequency
he might be too smart there's a lot of things where when he speaks i go yeah he's smart as
fuck i i don't agree with him you know i like that's not
once i start seeing like um organic matter like uh body parts and they they you watch it under
like some um microscope yeah and you see some like computer numbers and stuff then i'd be like
oh shit what are you talking about for me to For me to believe that we live in a computer simulation seriously, I'd have to see evidence like that.
If it is a computer simulation, Eddie, that means everything that's physical you're experiencing in a simulated way.
So it could be everything.
If it's just your mind experiencing things that your mind translate as being physical sensations,
why would it have numbers and zeros on it?
I get it.
And maybe we do live in a simulation.
I'm not saying we do.
I just don't see any evidence of it.
How about Callan's at 3.30, though?
Oh, yeah.
We knew it.
I told you.
You fucking called.
I said, we're not waiting for him.
It's 4 o'clock now.
Yeah.
Look, I'm not saying that we're in a simulation.
What I'm saying is I think things are a lot weirder than anybody wants to admit.
Or we're just overthinking it
Or there's so much information
The internet
And you know
There's smart people
We're just overthinking everything
There is no stimulation
There's that too
Once you live your life
It's over man
Lights out
Could be
Case closed
That's it
We want to think
There's something next
Because we want to hope
That our contributions
Are permanent
And that we're going to
Somehow or another
Come back in another life.
That's where kids come into play, right?
Your seeds.
Also, the way you treat people and the things that you rub off on other people
and they start to carry it on throughout their life.
The one thing that's happening right now is we're at a point now
where more people don't trust the mainstream information coming in more than ever.
And it's gotten to the point, it's snowballing,
where there's an army, they're called anons, Q anons,
that they're anonymous, but they're all on the same track,
looking for the truth, digging, digging, making YouTube channels.
Boom, there's all these these youtube and they're all
popping up they're becoming the new news the real news no commercials no um uh bullshit
motherfuckers no advertisement stuff yeah no none of those i mean look at the news these days look
at the news look what they're saying but who's watching watching that? Over and over. Nobody. Over and over. Over and over.
They're wrong about everything.
Over and over.
Three years of Trump's a Russian agent.
They gave Trump the Russian.
That's the worst thing you could give a politician.
He's a Russian agent.
You can get killed for that shit.
They gave him the worst shit.
They gave him Russia, racism, rape.
They gave him all that shit.
Nothing stuck.
Nothing stuck.
But if they could do that to the president, they could do that to anybody.
But it's the first time we've ever really seen that being done to a president.
Yeah, dude.
If they could do that to him, they could do that to anybody.
But it's interesting because he's the first president ever that's made an assault on the media. And instead of like proving their integrity
and being unflappable
and sticking to the tightest journalistic standards,
they've actually slipped.
No matter what Trump does,
they take the opposite stance.
No matter what.
But it's also happening at the same time.
See, one of the ways that Trump got a lot of attention
when he was running for president is being outrageous.
So they would cover him.
So all these news channels that thought they were going to expose him for being a jerk or for saying crazy things.
They shot themselves in the foot.
So they were going to cover him.
They just made him more and more popular.
So their business grew from making fun of him, from talking shit about him, from saying he's going to
be impeached, from saying he's going to be in jail.
That was a part of their business.
And then it stayed a part of their business when he started calling them fake news.
Yep.
And so now, instead of being at the tightest of journalistic standards, they have actually
resorted to a lot of clickbaity shit because now people aren't really reading regular newspapers
anymore.
And they're only watching short clips online. And now people are out. And people aren't paying attention. And a lot of click-baity shit because now people aren't really reading regular newspapers anymore and they're only watching like short clips online and now people are paying attention
and a lot of people are out they're out there all this is all bullshit he was right yeah even if you
don't like trump you're like how fuck yeah but yeah even if you hate trump think about this if
trump didn't win the person that would be president right now would have a body count think about that
shit you'd rather have a person with a body count
than Trump just because he's arrogant
and overconfident and all that shit.
He's a badass businessman.
The economy's better than ever.
Better than ever.
Unemployment better than ever.
That's what we have a president here for,
to make our country better, more prosperous.
And that's what he's doing.
Would you wear a MAGA hat?
It's too dangerous.
Are you kidding?
If I wore a MAGA hat, I'd be looking's doing. Would you wear a MAGA hat? It's too dangerous. Are you kidding? If I wore a MAGA hat,
I'd be like looking over my,
if you wear a red hat
and it says make America great again,
you're going to get killed.
If you just wear a red hat
that says USA,
they'll punch you.
Dude, I wore it.
I used to wear one.
It had a small red button.
It better have a thief,
a people.
My brother goes,
don't wear that hat anymore.
I go, why?
He goes,
because it looks like
you're just the biggest Trump sport.
I go, it's a red hat.
You can't wear red hats.
This is USA.
He goes, you can't wear it.
Look how powerful the media is.
The media is so powerful that anybody wearing a red hat that says, make America great again,
it can get punched.
Except for Kobe Covington.
Well, I don't know if it's the media that did that.
Of course it was.
It's people's reaction to those hats.
It's anti-Trump.
The media hat.
It could have been a black hat.
It could have been whatever hat. All the anti-Trump. The media hat. It could have been a black hat. It could have been whatever hat.
All the anti-Trump stuff comes from the media.
It all comes from the media.
Well, it comes from the media because of what we were talking about earlier.
It became their business to talk shit about Trump.
And they thought by doing that, they were going to sink him.
They really did.
Yeah.
They didn't realize how resilient he is.
The boy's gangster.
Say what you want about him.
It's not just about Trump.
He's pretty cool.
It wasn't just Trump.
Trump was recruited. There's good people. Okay, we're going to, too. Okay. like a lot of them say what you want it's not just about it wasn't just trump it's trump was
recruited he was there's good people okay we're going to do okay dude how about i went to that
comic that he was recruited there's a there's a plan how do you know this for sure because uh i'm
into it every day man just follow q but follow q q but how do you know that they're right because
everything that's happening right now we knew about it two years ago.
We knew about all this shit.
The FISA declass, all this shit.
All the people that are going down, we knew it.
It's still going on right now.
Q's dropping right now.
Q is Trump and the people around him.
It's an intelligence dissemination program.
You know who believes in all that shit?
Pat Miletic.
It's true.
Pat Miletic.
Of course.
He's got a thing called Conspiracy Farm.
He's got a podcast. Q is real, dude. Q is real. It's 100 Pat Miletic Of course He's got a thing called The Conspiracy Farm He's got a podcast
Q is real dude
Q is real
It's 100% real
All it is
All Q is
Is they're dropping info
To the people
The patriots
The people who really want
The best for the country
Not the loony left
They don't want the best
For the country
The left
What do you think
The loony left wants
The loony left
Right now
All the
The top of the loony left The top of the loony left The top The loony left right now, all the top of the loony left, the top of the loony left, the top of them, they're all going to go down for some shit.
It's not just Hunter Biden.
It's not just Hunter Biden.
It's Pelosi.
What do you think they want, Eddie?
They want world wars.
They want, you know what happened?
Remember 9-11?
The day before 9-11, Donald Rumsfeld makes an announcement that the Pentagon is missing $2.3 trillion.
Right.
Guess what? There was going to be a lot of investigations going on. People were going to go down for that. But guess what? Donald Rumsfeld makes an announcement that the Pentagon is missing $2.3 trillion. Right.
Guess what?
There was going to be a lot of investigations going on.
People were going to go down for that.
But guess what?
9-11 happens and no one brings it up.
So if we have a world war right now, those people won't go to prison.
What would you rather go? You'd rather go to prison or a world war?
This is your theory.
This is the Q plan.
But do you think the world war-
This is what's going on.
What would you rather-
Hold on a second.
You think Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, all these people got together and said, hey,
we're going to go to jail unless we start a World War.
So let's collude and start a World War.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying...
They didn't say let's start a World War.
But they want...
It's a lot more complicated than that.
But do they want a World War?
Do they want another 9-11?
Fuck yeah.
Dude, you don't think Biden wants a World War III?
Trump doesn't, though.
I don't think Trump does.
I think Biden wants to be president.
Have you seen the video of Biden at the CFR?
You've seen that video of him bragging, doing quid pro quo?
Yes.
That's what this is all about.
This is what they do.
This is what they do.
This is what politicians do.
They go to countries and they go to countries,
they go to countries,
and they say,
listen, we're going to give you
a billion dollars in aid,
and you're going to kick back
half of it or whatever
into our foundations as donations,
and then we get our money back,
and then you're going to hire my son,
put him on one of your energy boards,
and have your taxpayers
pay him 100K a month.
They've been doing that forever.
But, bro, Trump does that too his daughter
works in his cabinet right his son-in-law works for the government no no but that's not illegal
that's not illegal okay but it's kind of the same thing it's not the same thing okay because it's
not illegal because it's not biden but getting your family jobs no but it's sort of sneaky way
is what they do yeah yeah but it's called hooking people up. The fact that Biden threatened, he threatened.
I can't do Biden talk, man.
I can't go this deep in politics because it bores me.
Biden?
All of it bores me.
He's hilarious.
Do you think we're going to World War III, though, with Iran?
It's scary.
No, it looks like what Iran did was try to save face
and just shoot some missiles in the general direction of a base.
They blew up that plane, though.
Yeah, and they reported those.
That was fucked up.
The blowing up of the plane may or may not have been an accident.
They said it was a mistake, no?
Well, they're speculating.
What do you think?
They're speculating.
Ukraine airline and all the, well, anyways, I don't know about that, but they reported,
Iran reported that they killed 30 Americans.
So Iran thinks, oh, we retaliate.
Well, no, they're saving face.
That's what they're going to say.
They're saving face.
That's what they're going to say.
No, no, exactly. Good. I hope they do. face. They're saving face. No, no, exactly.
That's what's going on.
I hope they talk it out.
I'm not saying 30 people died.
I like what Trump said.
Oh, no, you're saying Iran said that to their people.
They were like, it's a way to, they both save face and there's no World War III.
That's what's going on.
That's all I want.
No war.
I like what Trump said today.
What did he say?
When he gave a speech about it, that we can all live together in peace and that we can
all prosper together.
Yeah, surprisingly, he doesn't want
everyone goes,
oh, he wants to go to war
because the impeachment
it's a distraction.
I can't talk about this.
Let's talk about the UFC
because that's what we do.
The idea of starting this thing
we go deep in these
and I feel bad.
We talk about fun things
I feel good.
You like these.
You like stirring him up
about lizard people.
I find what
Eddie's info
is super interesting.
Thank you.
You're fucking with him. No, I'm not. I promise. Sometimes I is super interesting. Thank you. You're fucking with him.
No, I'm not.
I promise.
Sometimes I am.
No, he's slipping over.
He is.
I'm telling you, I'm reading the CIA book.
On the down low, he's slipping into it.
Me and Tripoli go deep into it.
Epstein's going to turn everybody.
I'm not that deep.
But you're not married to the ball, though, right?
I'm married to the ball.
No, you are.
I'm super married to the ball.
Oh, you are? Yeah, okay. There's, right? I'm married to the ball. No, you are. I'm super married to the ball. Oh, you are?
Yeah, okay.
There's only certain ones I can go down.
Okay.
Hey, you said you weren't married to the ball.
I'm open-minded, though, brother.
I'm open-minded, Donald.
You said you were.
No, no, no.
Okay, you changed your mind.
No, no.
I like balls, though.
Okay.
Well, let's start with...
The whole idea about doing this is a 2019 breakdown.
But real quick, Conor Cowboy next weekend, fellas.
Next weekend.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, we can start with that.
What do you think about that? Conor looks
very good in training. He looks very
lean. He looks big. I had
Dominic Cruz on my show,
The Food Truck Diary, yesterday, and he saw
Conor at the
training center in Vegas. I was like, dude,
his footwork, the way he moves, he's like,
he has some new shit too, man. Really?
He was like, I don't want to get into it.
He's very explosive.
The thing is, if Cowboy can survive the initial onslaught, it becomes very interesting to see.
I rewatched Conor and Khabib, and people always talk about Conor gassing out.
Well, one of the things that was interesting about Conor Khabib is that the third round, he came out guns blazing.
Khabib had been mauling him for the first two. Have you heard about that camp too?
Did you hear his Mack Life interview? He he started doing interviews and he was honest he was man for that khabib fight i i didn't train that hard wasn't committed i took the fight you
know it is what it is he's like that's why i want to rematch he and he says he hasn't been committed
and i with everything going on the outside kind of um chaos i kind of buy into it, man.
I've been watching some old Conor fights.
Old Conor fights are awesome.
Like from Cage Warriors.
But I think you're going to get a version of that old Conor next Saturday against Cowboy.
He was throwing capoeira kicks at Cage Warriors.
I don't like that it's at 170, though.
When I heard that, I went, oh, I don't like that.
Well, it's okay.
For him.
But it's okay because it's basically 155 where they don't cut weight.
They're both 55ers.
Conor, obviously, has fought 70 when he fought Nate. Conor's okay because it's basically 155 where they don't cut weight. They're both 55ers. Conor obviously has fought 70 when he fought Nate.
Conor's a small son.
Cowboy has fought 70 really successfully against big, strong guys,
dangerous guys like Mike Perry and Alex Pereira.
Alex Pereira who used to be 55 as well.
But I think Conor is – this is a good fight if he wants to fight 70
because you're not fighting an Usman.
He's talking about
Fighting Usman
I don't like that form
So what are you thinking dude
That might just be crazy talk
Usman's so big dude
I stood next to him
The other day
When you know
At the weigh in
Kamara's huge dude
I couldn't believe
That just a few hours ago
He had made 170
He's fucking huge dude
He looked like he was
195
With like 3% body fat
It's gonna be hard
To beat that motherfucker dude
He's so tough He's amazing That's that motherfucker, dude. He's so tough.
He's amazing.
That's going to be hard to beat.
He's so tough.
Do you know he broke his fucking hand training for that fight?
I saw it in the fight.
I called it in the fight.
I'm like, he's not using his left hand.
Keep an eye on his left hand.
He switched southpaw for a little bit and was throwing right jabs.
I was like, I think there's something wrong with his left hand.
And then somewhere along the line, he starts throwing it again.
And he texted me after the fight.
He said, you called it.
He was like, bro, he sent me a video of him breaking his hand in sparring.
And then he said, I just knew I had to just throw it.
Such a stud.
Threw it anyway.
Such a stud.
You know, that guy's knees were so fucked up that he couldn't walk on concrete.
He was training for a fight, and he had to walk on grass.
He would move over to the concrete because his knees hurt.
Why did his knees hurt?
Because his meniscus is torn apart.
He can't run.
His cartilage is torn apart.
He can't run at all. He can't run. He can only swim. That sounds't run. His cartilage is torn apart. He can't run at all.
He can't run.
He can only swim.
That sounds like me.
Dude, he can only swim.
He can only swim, but he does a lot of cardio and aerobics and shit.
Whatever he's doing is working.
He's a savage.
Savage.
His mind, I think Kamaru's like 32.
Is that right?
I don't think he's even that old.
Is he 31, 30?
I don't think he's 32.
He's a fucking prime.
And the fact that that Colby fight
was all stand-up. All stand-up.
And Colby hit him with hammers.
They both hit each other, but at the end
Kamaru took over.
That straight right hand that broke his jaw.
Kamaru works great, man.
He's one of the best of all time.
I know it's hard to say that when the guys
only defended the title once, won the title
against one of the best in Tyron Woodley.
And then, look, Kobe Covington, put away all that trash talk.
That guy is a fucking animal.
He's a stud.
No, no, people want to hate on him.
Oh!
3.30, my ass.
Look at this.
No wine, no cheese.
It's 4.12.
4.12.
Oh!
I came from Culver City.
And where's your bag of wine with cheese?
We have wine. I thought he was bringing bag of wine with cheese? We have wine.
I thought he was bringing whiskey.
We have whiskey.
We have wine.
There's no need to bring anything.
We thought you were going to be like this.
I barely got here.
I would have.
You missed all the Flat Earth talk.
Ah, shut up.
We went deep.
You missed the Epstein talk, which was really-
Chewing on.
We missed this all that.
Hey, let me-
I'll tell you about the Epstein stuff.
Pass that.
The crazy stuff.
Pass that.
Dude, you're going to trip when you hear the ship After the show
Shout out to Meat Eater Whiskey
Hey, let me see that, how's that wine?
Where's that Buffalo Trace, son?
That's a 2010
This is my friend Steve Vanilla's shit
I've had that, it's good stuff
Oh, he has his own whiskey?
But I need some red wine
You can get some wine too, bitch
Damn, I like it, we're getting crazy What's up, dawg? Coming off set? Yeah, sir. Yeah. But I need some red wine first. You can get some wine too, bitch. Damn, I like it.
We're getting crazy.
What's up, dawg?
Coming off set?
What's up, buddy?
Yeah, coming off set.
Sorry about the makeup.
Sorry about my skin being all kinds of smooth.
At least your hair is thick.
You have makeup on now?
A little bit.
Looks good.
I wiped it off with makeup remover.
That's good.
Hey, B, but do what Eddie did.
Shave your head.
But do what Eddie did.
Shave your head.
I love it.
I used to have my head shaved.
So you three dickheads can hang out.
I know.
I used to have my head shaved. Now I have to Can hang out I know I used to have my head shaved
Now I have to
It comes to you one day
When you're 52
And you're like
Fucking here's my towel
He's got great hair though
Look at it
It's beautiful
But when you get to be 52
You're like
Fuck barbers
And their boring ass conversations
Yeah I don't think
You're ever gonna lose your hair right
My dad
My dad has a thick
Fucking silver fox
You get older
When you get to be in your 50s
You care about Comfortable shoes Like you're like Those are get older. When you get to be in your 50s, you care about comfortable shoes.
Like, you're like, those are more comfortable.
And who's nice to be around?
Who's nice to be around?
Yeah.
Who's nice to be around?
You're fucking right.
Who do I enjoy?
That is the number one thing in all of life.
Who's nice to be around?
Your best times, your biggest smiles, the most excitable times are all when we're having fun.
You and I, I mean, think of all the fun times we've had our whole lives.
The most fun times is being around your friends laughing.
I was looking through some old pictures from the mid-2000s.
Shit.
Bro, it's better than anything in life.
Vegas.
Having fun with your friends.
Laughing.
It's the best.
Getting baked.
Going to see movies.
We don't have meals enough, though.
No, we don't.
We should have more meals together.
And that's a huge tragedy.
We should be having meals together.
You're right.
And also having friends you can check in with.
Like, I'll call.
Every time I see him, we check in.
How about when I text you and I talk about something serious?
I'll just touch the water.
I'll go, yo.
And I'm like, somebody needs to talk.
Yeah.
It's the most important thing in life is fun.
Yeah.
All that other stuff is nonsense, man.
And friends.
That skiing video you did on Instagram the other day that's one of the best
you've ever done ever
that skiing one was great
he has a million of them
you just don't do them
I got so many
hits from that
or that one I did
with my kids
with Utah thing
I got 2.4 million
you never know
what's going to go
you stop doing them
it's the weirdest shit
you still do way more
and they kill
I'm doing way more now
my favorite ones
you do when you lie on bed
With an iPad
On each side of your head
Oh my god
Those are great
You have three arguments
For yourself
Those are great
Those I gotta do
When you're doing dance
How much time do those take?
It takes a while
It took a while
But then I would just like
Time it
The best one was when I was like
Yeah let's go
Let's go drink
Let's go hang
Let's bang guys
What?
Let's hang five
No you said bang guys
You know why he stopped doing them? You know why you stopped doing them you know why you stopped
doing them you stopped doing the road because your tv show that's why that's part of you were doing
them you were getting bored in the hotel room it's just that you're trying when you're trying
to write stand up you're trying to do other things there's a limit to what you can like
sometimes those things just just happen yeah the main thing is not to worry about not writing i
worry about not writing and it fucks up my other stuff do you ever do that like where you're like i gotta write i'm gonna
come up with something i just write like i brush my teeth yeah i write yeah dude i come i have a
whole thing i do now i don't even write in my student my office anymore i write all at home
and i write at night when i'm high coming home from the store so i come home from the store
everyone's asleep Spark up a joint
Pet my dog
Maybe make an espresso
And just sit in front of the laptop
For an hour and a half
Maybe two hours at the most
That's all I need
Two in the morning?
Yep
Then what time you get up?
Seven
Gangster
That's all you need though
Yeah but
You don't sleep much?
Sometimes I go back to bed
No I mean if I
I go
I get up to let my kids out
And say goodbye
On their way to school
And then if I'm feeling good I'll go work out then if I'm feeling good, I'll go work out.
But if I'm feeling like shit, I'll go back to sleep.
And I'll sleep for another two hours.
So those are the days where I'll only lift or I'll do cardio or something like that.
But the other days I'm doing yoga.
Hey, B, he eats only meat right now.
You know that?
Dude, I'm on a full carnivore diet.
Of course he is because Joe likes to be trendy.
No, it's not trendy.
No, he's not trendy.
Joe's lost seven pounds.
Joe's an extremist.
No, there's a bunch of people.
He's extreme for sure.
But I did it for an experiment.
Moderation's not in his middle name.
I knew Cal had hate on it.
You want to hear an Aztec death whistle?
Sure.
Oh my God. It sounds like death. It's not very good. Dude Dude that sounds
Sounds like you're blowing
That sounds like
You ever seen this
Watch this
How does he do it
Yeah
Whatever
Apparently the Aztecs
That was only my second time
Wait which way
Is it this way
That way yeah yeah
I think you gotta cup it
Suck on it though
Suck on it Callum
Suck it in
So they would
The Aztecs when they were
Taunting the enemy
They would do that
On the hillside
Like while they were
Camped out and sleeping
They would keep them up
All night
Psychologically fuck with them
Jesus Christ
Thousands of them at a time
Blowing that death whistle
That's scary
Let them know
Death's coming
Not very smart
It sounds like someone
He's already An expert death whistler Dude it's good Oh look at this Let him know death's coming. It sounds like someone he's yelling.
Already an expert death whistle.
Dude, it's good.
Oh, look at this.
You think that was some Indians?
Is this guy going to do it for us?
You think that was some Indians who are like, dude, maybe that's not a good idea.
Let's sneak up on him.
No, man.
Is this guy an Aztec?
They would stay on the outside edges, especially in the old bow and arrow days.
You could fuck with people because they can only hit you so far away.
Is he blowing the Aztec whistle?
You're a hundred yards...
Sounds like a demon.
That Aztec has some titties.
Listen to that.
It sounds like demons.
Oh my god.
That's scary as fuck, dude.
Now imagine a thousand
half-naked warriors that are definitely going to kill you.
And they're screaming that from the hillside.
Hopefully they'll have titties like that guy.
Oh, shit.
This is bad luck.
This is bad luck.
No, no, no.
We're the warriors.
Okay.
Okay.
You're going to conjure a demon.
You're also going to blow out your asshole. I know. This is like one of those, you know. to conjure a demon. You're also going to blow out your asshole.
I know.
This is like one of those, you know.
This is a bad idea.
Evil Dead movies.
That was scary, man.
Right?
Well, they would do that to scare the fuck out of their enemy.
Jesus.
Dude.
Hard times.
Hard times made hard men.
It's weird that I had no energy coming here, and now I get here, and I have so much energy.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
It's called bro energy. It's bro energy. As we get here, and I have so much energy. I know. That's what I'm saying. It's called bro energy.
It's bro energy.
As we get older, we cherish this.
Fun times are like the best times.
Everything else is nonsense.
Fuck.
It's family and fun times.
You don't want to waste time.
Yeah.
But then there's stuff you have to do that's not fun, but ensures that the fun times will
continue.
True.
Like discipline, exercise, work.
You got to put in the time.
You got to hustle. If you don't hustle, you're not going to enjoy the fun times. You got to hustle. Two states. True Like discipline Exercise Work You gotta put in the time You gotta hustle
If you don't hustle
You're not gonna enjoy
The fun times
You gotta hustle
Two states
Two states
Tranquility
And excitement
Yeah like
How we are right now
Like having fun
You really can only
Do this correctly
If you're not worried
About some shit
Like if you have
Some other stuff
That you should be handling
But you're not
You're blowing some things off
Yep
You know your daughter
Has a recital or some shit
You know you're supposed
To be there.
Yes.
You want to hang with your boys.
That'll fuck with your head, right?
Dude, have you seen the Kevin Hart doc?
No, I have not.
It's so good.
You guys are in it.
I love it.
Super inspiring, man.
Fuck.
He's an inspiring guy.
Dude, you watch it and you're like, holy fuck.
How is Joe?
Whatever you think you're doing.
What did he do?
The podcast.
Oh.
When he was on here talking.
It's cool.
He's an intense guy.
He's great.
Driven.
You want to talk about
A driven motherfucker
His whole thing is
Yeah he wants to be
A billionaire
Okay
But it's like
When's enough dude
When's enough
I don't know
He's in this like
Huge crib in Calabasas
And he's like
You know I just
Gotta do this
And this
I'm like
I looked at my girl
I go
When is enough dude
Well it's never
Going to be enough
Robert Downey Jr.
Was here the other day
And he was talking about it.
He was saying, there's a certain beauty in no one when hanging out.
He was on your podcast?
Yeah.
Robert Downey Jr.?
Was it yesterday?
Yesterday.
Tuesday.
Is it out yet?
You have to post it next week when his movie comes out.
Is it out yet?
Holy shit.
It comes out next week.
How good was that?
He was amazing.
He's brilliant.
How long was it?
Really fun guy.
He's a big MMA fan.
Yeah, a little short.
He had to go somewhere.
About an hour and a half.
Damn.
What was he saying? Was he referring to Iron Man fan. Yeah, a little short. He had to go somewhere. About an hour and a half. Damn.
What was he saying?
Was he referring to Iron Man?
Yeah, about that, but also about everything.
He's talking about great people that have learned when to step aside.
We were talking about Joe Walsh doing that.
We talked about some people just knowing when to just relax a little.
It's a beautiful thing.
Step back a little.
It's hard to – we're talking about good times. Those are the most important things but we're all public right we're four very public people and when you're very public person professionally you
stepping aside almost seems like you're losing something yeah like you're like you just going
back to a state of regular existence seems like you're giving up or something. Right. Because it's so difficult in the beginning to get good at it
and also to get famous and to get successful that it becomes an obsession.
And once you achieve it, anything less than that is somehow or another not desirable,
even if it would be a happier state for you.
And so you get caught up in the game that you've created in order for
you to become successful so even when you're like kevin hart who's got massive amounts of riches and
massive international fame still isn't satisfied yeah still has new goals new and maybe that's just
how he doesn't he enjoys it or maybe with someone like me i will will tell you for sure, that would not be the case. That would be me being on an addictive path and not being objective or introspective.
Me just going hogwash.
Because I don't operate like – Kevin seems to enjoy it, though.
See, with him, I wouldn't say it's the same thing.
Because I think he genuinely gets a real positive impact out of achieving.
And then also, I think he has a really good sense of how much he inspires people.
Yeah, he wants to make real changes in his community and all that.
He's got so many plans.
My only thing is when I see those schedules and I know you have kids,
I have a busy schedule compared to a lot of these other guys.
I'm like, God, you know what I'm saying?
When are you there with the kiddos, man?
It's tough.
You're shooting these movies.
You're doing this
I bet he brings the kids with him
And has tutors
He does
I've been on set with him
He brings his kids
You can
He talks about it in documentary
Think about tutoring
They're not on every
Being on a set
The ones I was on
I was on two sets with him
He had his kids there
Being on a set
Most of the time
You're not doing shit
You have a lot of time
To hang out with people
Yeah
I brought my family
When I did Here Comes the Boom We hung around So it's like most of the day you're just hanging around you
know what though one of the things i noticed that you have to avoid is as people get older and i've
i've been around some pretty pretty successful older people of late one of the things that i
notice is that they're generally afraid of losing their relevance and their usefulness and their impact because if you've
been impactful yeah that's what that is you know that's why i'm not talking about those guys but
i'm just saying what i notice is don't you think those guys and i don't mention names but those
guys that you've been hanging not though not i'm actually not talking about me neither i know who
you're talking about but don't you think to get to a certain level of fame and success, there has to be some
sort of narcissism?
So that never really goes away.
So that's what they're worried about losing, right?
I don't know.
For me, I was actually talking not about Stallone and-
Me neither.
I was talking about these-
I've been around, you know, just around-
You get older and you're around people who are just old.
De Niro?
De Niro?
And I noticed- No, I never met him, but you notice, you just notice that as you get older,
you don't get more secure unless you work at it like anything else.
If anything, you might get more insecure because you're dying and you start to feel like you're
losing your relevance, your strength, your power, all that stuff.
So a lot of it is learning, I think what Robert Downey Jr. was saying, that beauty of kind of learning how to step off and realize it's okay.
Yeah, but then he also just did Dr. Doolittle, so take it easy.
Sure, sure, sure.
I think that's why he did it.
That's ideal.
I think that's why he did it.
You know, you just got to step back.
Meanwhile, don't miss my movie.
Meanwhile, Dr. Doolittle, this Thursday.
Dude, you are Iron Man.
How dare you, bro?
Didn't Iron Man 4 just come out? Yeah. Spoiler alert, he dies. Dude, you are Iron Man. How dare you, bro? Didn't Iron Man 4
just come out?
Yeah.
What are we on now?
Spoiler alert, he dies.
Is it 3?
He dies.
No, it wasn't Iron Man.
It's Avengers.
I don't watch them,
but I knew that.
I do think there's
narcissism involved
in a lot of really
successful people.
You mean all of us?
You mean all of us?
For sure there's some of it.
It's about you.
It's a one-man show
sometimes.
It's an element
that you can put together with a lot of other elements in proper controls and you can's a one man show sometimes It's an element That you can put together
With a lot of other elements
In proper controls
And you can make a very useful engine
It's whether or not
You use that element wisely
Or whether you not
Let that element overwhelm the recipe
Where the element is more
More potent
And has more control
Than reason and logic
And objectivity
And kindness
And camaraderie and all the other
good elements it consumes you i just wanted to be i just i was terrified of being a failure you
gotta like when people admire you you're right when people admire your work and admire what
you've done you gotta like that and you like that feeling that you get from people and then you work
harder wouldn't you say a big part of uh males drive to be successful there's a big part you
want like the best looking girl you want to be significant you want to be power yeah you want
to be adored because guys don't ever get that gay guys you gotta get the same thing and so when you
get that and then you start getting old and now it's it's it's uh well your whole life you wanted
it yeah because now you're falling apart and dwindling away.
Not me, baby.
But you get to a point, it's true,
but I think you get to a point where a lot of what you were chasing
when you were younger was a sensation,
a physical sensation of some kind.
Even if it's like the adoration of crowds and stuff,
and then maybe as you get older you go, there's got to be –
that's maybe why people as they get older get a little bit more,
quote-unquote, spiritual, a little bit more –
It's scared and tired too.
Well, that might be it.
Scared and tired.
Scared and tired together makes a –
Religious.
Hilarious.
Scared and tired.
What a terrible combo.
Makes for a religious person.
What a terrible combo, man.
But it is, man.
I know this dude, when he was younger, was never-
Get Brian a hit of that.
I gotta have a-
I love tequila.
Get Brian a hit of that.
I'm a tequila guy.
Take a hit of that.
Tequila.
There's no tequila.
We have whiskey and-
I'm talking about those fucking weed.
I don't know.
Uber?
We got sex tonight.
Dude, do it.
Get that blunt with us.
My daddy's gotta drive.
So do I.
Take that blunt.
My daddy can't drive.
Get that blunt.
Uber.
It's a mild marijuana.
Take an Uber.
It's barely psychoactive.
I'm a pussy.
You say that.
I was high for six hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, we're going to work on that.
You need to get high more often, I think.
I think it would help you a lot.
Yeah.
Dude, I remember I never get high before I do STEM.
I remember I was in the green room with you, and I forget who else.
And I was like, oh, I'm like these guys.
I already did one set. It went well.
I'm like, I'm like Joe.
I can handle this
I do a set
And I go out there
And just ate
Complete dick
I have a method
To my madness
The method is
When I'm high
I will occasionally allow
Especially when I'm comfortable
With the material
I'll allow a complete
Different breach of thought
So like my thought
If I'm doing a bit
Especially if it's a bit
That I've done a bunch
Of times before
And I know how it's structured
I'm in the middle of something,
I'll allow myself a part
where I go, why do
we do that?
Who's the first guy who said, dude,
this is the best way to do it. That doesn't make any sense.
And those things come
a lot of times from weed.
Yeah, but you're a 30-year vet.
But I do it on purpose, is my point.
I do it because I'm trying to allow myself these little weird pathways.
And every now and then, there's a big part of one of the bits that I have that absolutely came from that.
And right now, it's one of the best parts of the bits.
It came from me being baked, joking around about this one particular subject that I already had a bit about on stage.
And then, boom, it just comes out.
I have a different theory about you
I'd love to hear it
well I think that weed is really good for you
because it makes you less defensive
because you naturally have
this
you're always looking for
you're looking for the predator
in the group and you gotta be ready
I think weed brings that down
so it allows you
to have a different perspective like a more of a rounded perspective as opposed to a linear
perspective of looking for that motherfucker that might get at you it might be that just so deep it
makes me think that so deep it makes me more more vulnerable and more introspective right and it
makes it but it also makes me more curious like weed makes me curious I'm always curious but weed makes me curious in the moment like
deeply curious where I'll allow myself to think about things in a way that I
never thought about it before when you're on stage and you're making up
bits like you know you have a bit it's kind of on Bambi legs it's real fresh
and you're still trying to figure out what the beats are when you're high man
it's like though it's like they come to you sometimes.
Like there's someone that says,
say applesauce.
Say applesauce.
And then boom,
applesauce comes out.
I almost hear the word sometimes.
You know,
and it only happens
if you're comfortable.
It only happens
if you're doing a shitload of sets.
There's a lot of factors.
I know I'm a little high,
but I am dying to hear
the next door neighbor of Epstein.
I can't stop thinking about it. After the show. All right. Oh, after the show. God. It's not'm a little high, but I am dying to hear the next door neighbor of Epstein. I can't stop thinking about it.
After the show.
It's not like a celebrity or anything.
Why do you like these conspiracy theories
so much? But you don't get into
them.
Someone asked me why I was a
conspiracy theorist. It was an interview.
They were asking some jujitsu interview. Why are you
a conspiracy theorist? And I said, why isn't
everybody a goddamn conspiracy theorist? We all know, why isn't everybody a goddamn conspiracy theorist?
We all know the government lies.
But you'll like this.
And then you believe
official stories?
Doesn't make any sense.
But you'll like this.
That's not logic.
This venture capitalist,
she deals with like
the billionaires
and she goes,
you know,
there's these ideas
that, you know,
people,
all these billionaires
get together
and then they
figured out the world.
This is what we're going
to do this year and they leave, you know. the skulls she goes she goes let me tell you
why that's complete bullshit like the idea that the powerful get together and if they come up with
a plan let him talk let him talk so he goes she goes i tried to schedule a dinner with five
billionaires five and they the reason they're billionaires is because they're super competitive
and they fucking hate their other competitors.
She goes, I couldn't get five of them to sit at a table
because one dude had fucked the other guy's ex-wife,
the other guy was suing the other guy,
the other guy was trying to take over the other guy's business.
But the bottom line is she's in the outskirts.
There you go.
Proof.
No Illuminati.
No, it's because human beings who are super competitive
and very successful are usually out. No, no. It's because human beings who are super competitive and very successful
are usually at odds.
Gentlemen, please.
Stop for a second.
If there was a fucking lady
who wanted to make a lunch with us,
we wouldn't go.
No, no, no.
This was for business.
This was all in there
to get together for a podcast.
He's got evidence.
You helped his argument, Callan.
You helped his argument.
I knew a chick.
She's trying to bet
a couple billion.
It's a whole thing.
They're hating each other.
Baby.
They're hating each other. She's trying to bet a couple billion. It's a little baby. They're hating each other.
She's a venture capitalist.
It was one of the worst arguments.
You fucked this.
You should have said he was a venture capitalist before.
We didn't know.
He did.
She was a venture capitalist who could get all of them individually.
You took lighter fluid.
She dealt with all of them individually.
She knew them very well.
All of them.
You just turned 17 people into flat earthers.
17 people listening. can't bang billionaires
it looks like they wouldn't all do it dude that was the greatest evidence ever. The dumbest story you've ever told. You are so attracted.
You can't get that many powerful people in a room because they all hate each other.
I don't trust her.
You are so attracted to the official story.
It's adorable.
I definitely don't trust her, Calum.
You bought the dumbest version of it I've ever heard.
There's no Illuminati.
There's a lady trying to get these guys together for lunch.
They wouldn't do it.
Case closed.
And that was the end of the Illuminati myth.
I'll get the podcast.
Have you ever seen the Bohemian Grove footage
where Alex Jones filmed all these elites
dressing up like druids
and worshipping the owl god Moloch?
That's real, dude.
They really do that.
But what are you eye-rolling on the phone?
I'm eye-rolling that the you I roll doesn't control the
world because nobody's that organized well maybe they're not but did you see
me and grow thing that is absolutely 100% real no it's not so what Brian it's
people dressing up like wizards let's saying some weird control shit it's
weird burning an effigy in front of an owl god.
Same with Burning Man.
Bro, this is so different than Burning Man.
It's the government.
It's people at the highest levels of banks.
It's all these different famous people.
There's a bunch of crazy, really rich, influential people that went to that Bohemian Grove and
dressed up like druids and they chanted things.
Have you ever seen it?
Yeah, I saw it.
You are.
Yeah, I saw it.
He hasn't seen it. He hasn't seen it. I'm sorry. He hasn't seen it. He just doesn't want you to put it on. I? Yeah, I saw it. You are. You haven't seen it. He hasn't seen it.
I'm sorry. He hasn't seen it.
I saw it. I saw it. I did see it because
you were talking about it and I didn't believe it.
What do you mean you didn't believe it? John Ronson
was there. John Ronson is 100%
credible journalist. Whatever you might think
about anybody else that was there,
different people that have made YouTube videos on it,
John Ronson is legit as they
come, straight down the middle, very intelligent.
What do you think they're doing there?
Are they planning the world?
I think they're doing a thing the same way they do the Skull and Bones,
where they get together and they have a group
where they all become a part of this group early on
and they feel some kinship, just like the Freemasons.
Oh, that makes sense, yeah.
Just like a lot of people, but this is very extreme.
They're chanting crazy shit and they're putting hoods on
and they're burning an effigy
that's supposed to be a sacrificial person.
But it's straw in a bundle.
Can you imagine doing that?
They talk about the owl god Moloch.
These are multi-millionaires.
Do you know who Marina Abramovic is?
Of course he doesn't.
Now you do.
Yeah, I do.
But Brian,
you didn't in that one we were texting.
But your initial reaction is not objective.
Your initial reaction is not,
you're like,
No, I don't believe. That is a crazy thing. I know, but I just don't believe Your initial reaction is not objective. Your initial reaction is not, you're like.
No, I don't believe.
That is a crazy thing.
I know, but I just don't believe that.
I don't believe the rich and powerful are organized enough to actually get together and create a cabal.
I think they're all competitive.
How do you think they're so rich?
Let me give you a two-step here.
Do you believe the footage from Behavian Grove?
There really was these heads of banks and heads of state.
You believe that, right?
And they're all together, right?
So wouldn't they talk about business?
Yeah.
Well, that's probably how they do it.
This is probably what it's all about.
It's probably not as nefarious as we like to think.
It's their fight campaign. How do you think they got so rich?
By being lazy?
Of course they're organized.
But they become a team with all the other people that are like them.
They do things like influence special interest groups.
That's what they do.
They go, why don't you send a billion dollars of aid over to my country?
And I'll send another billion over to yours.
That's what's going on.
That's what we're talking about.
Look at this.
This is the hidden footage that John Ronson and Alex Jones got from Bohemian Grove in
the fucking late 90s.
I was going to say, how old is this shit?
Was it early 2000s or something?
Pretty cloudy.
Shut the fuck up.
You can hear them.
They're lighting things on fire.
The moloch, the aloe guy.
It's a corn concert.
They're saying all this crazy shit.
It's a corn concert.
Put the volume on it so you can hear it.
Jamie got that.
Listen to the volume.
Listen to this shit.
So they have music.
They're in the woods, dude.
But give me the volume of them talking. And they're in the woods dude But give me
Give me the volume
Of them talking
And they're in camping
What do you think is going on
It's a two hour documentary
Oh it's a two hour documentary
The richest people in the world
Control us
Oh okay okay
It's dude
And other people
It's super simple
It's like the mob
As simple as it gets
But there's pictures of like
Ronald Reagan there
Like people have been there forever
They've been going there
Since the beginning of time
This is one of those things
Where rich powerful people
Get together and go Hey we're all on the same team.
People like to be protected.
It's where they do it there, though.
It's in the middle of California, in the middle of the woods.
You've got to go through a guard checkpoint.
And I have in this area the same area.
I have a friend who's a producer who got in with one of the biggest producers of all time for a while.
I don't want to say any names, but he was in that crew there.
There's this producer, and he's got this crew of all these different people in his crew to produce shit.
It's like a little gang, and it's a top guy.
Everybody knows this one.
Sure.
He was involved in a little—he was like a new recruit.
Yeah.
And they went to a city by Bulimian Grove.
One road, no one
has access to it unless you're part of this
group. And it's a big-ass city.
He goes, it's like you're
in some Middle East, like
Abu Dhabi, Prince
city where everything is paved
and just, it's insane.
He went there.
Here's what I think.
This city's hidden.
Here's my thing.
You can fly over it.
It's in Northern California.
One of these clubs
reach out to Joe
out of the four.
I'm just telling you
what I heard.
I'm just telling you
what I heard.
Someone's going to reach out
and be like,
dude, you shouldn't
come to our fucking
thing.
They know they can't
control Joe.
That's why he's not
a big movie star
because they know
they can't control him.
He doesn't want to be
a movie star.
Here's what I think.
I think that the rich
and powerful get together.
If they gave you
a hundred million,
you would.
I don't want to act.
If someone said, I'm going to give you a hundred million you would I don't want to act no if someone said
I'm going to give you
a hundred million
to be in a movie
with The Rock
we'll talk later
I would do it
I love The Rock
I'd do it just to hug him
but here's what I think
I think the rich and powerful
get together
and have these
like they go to
they go to
they go to dinner
they go to retreats
you know why I think
they do it
a couple things
they get to fuck
they get to do drugs
nobody's looking
and that's where
Epstein came into place
that's where Epstein came in where Ep Correct. That's where Epstein came in.
That's what I think.
Where Epstein came in was they all thought that they were protected.
They all thought that this guy who has these intelligence connections, who's a benefactor
of science, he loves to spend money on science, and he would donate money to their causes,
and they were all together.
And he was banging these girls, and so I'll bang them too.
Sure.
And then they go to an island, so they think they're fine.
And they're being videotaped.
You're being videotaped, and you're also being used to influence policy and influence.
That I believe.
Yes.
I think that people.
That's what's going on.
I believe he could very well have been an entity of a intelligence agency like CIA, like the
Messiah.
All of them.
All of them.
I have to pee already.
Damn, you're peeing before all of us.
What?
I drank a lot of water today.
This is the first.
Okay, while he's gone, do not ask me about-
I'm drinking gallons of water on this stupid diet.
Don't let him get off the rails.
Don't-
Yeah, no flatter.
I gotta hear about the next one.
No, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
Eddie, you've been restrained, man.
No, no, you-
Dude, you missed the whole thing.
No, you missed the whole thing.
It was fantastic.
Come on, on.
I live for this.
Wait, I thought we were going to watch classic fights or something.
Yeah, you came too late, dude.
So we decided to do government shit.
watch classic fights or something yeah he came too late dude so we decided to do government shit brendan subscribe to the youtube channel x22 report i'm right right now x20 horrible name
but i'll do it just listen to them that you want to know what's going on that's what's going on
and also listen to uh subscribe to one at a time x X-22. Report. All right. And then the Dan Bongino show.
Dan Bongino.
He's fucking awesome.
He does jujitsu too.
He's legit.
Dan Bongino.
You know I'm training with Higgin.
I'm on it.
He reports.
You want to know what's really going on in D.C.?
Listen to Dan Bongino on X-22.
That's what's really going on.
All the shit that's going on right now, we knew about this shit two years ago.
Say no more, fam.
People were giving up on Q because they're like, when is this shit gonna come out and then finally it came out all this
stuff we know all the players if you pay attention it's just like game of thrones all this shit it's
new to some people what about um uh analytica what was that cambridge analytica that found out that
the they were basically like youtube has an algorithm like if you if you look up conspiracy
theories you're gonna start getting they're gonna start curating the algorithm pushes you in that that they were basically, like YouTube has an algorithm. If you look up conspiracy theories,
you're going to start getting,
they're going to start curating.
The algorithm pushes you in that direction.
That's everything, though.
Right?
Even politics.
If you're a Democrat,
you're going to get all the information.
And what was happening was-
You're right.
There is two sides.
That's the algorithm of YouTube.
There's two sides,
and they're polar opposite.
One is right, one is wrong.
So it's really easy to figure out
which one's right and wrong.
You just got to figure out for sure who's full of shit. Let see who's for sure where's it coming from hillary clinton's
full of shit for sure uh cnn's full of shit for sure so uh uh uh joe biden full of shit for sure
adam schiff full of shit for sure so you know what out of those four people they're all saying
the exact same thing and they're all full of shit and who else is saying the exact same thing cnn
msnbc so we already know okay so by process of elimination you know that shit can't be and they're all full of shit and who else is saying the exact same thing? CNN, MSNBC.
So we already know,
okay, so by process of elimination,
you know that shit can't be real. But you sound like
Tucker Carlson right now.
What about Tucker Carlson?
There's two sides.
You got to pick one side.
Dude, pick a side.
One side is Tucker Carlson
and one side is Hillary Clinton.
No, I don't.
No, you pick a side.
There's two sides.
I told you,
don't let him get off the rails.
No, but there's not two sides.
I don't have to go all the way
No, there's three.
No, there's three.
Give him one more.
There's three types of people.
The first one, people that think Hillary good, Trump bad.
Where you at?
The second people, the second type of person is people who think Trump good, Hillary bad.
And then there's the third type that think both of them are bad.
No, no, there's also nuance.
No, you'd be the third.
There's only three. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys you'd be the fourth there's only three guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys we gotta stop talking to each other no i'm
just this is you can't do this is murder on people's ears okay okay see you have good ears
i'm done you guys been in the business too long you should know this you know who dan bongino is
he does jujitsu dan bongino he he's uh he's got his own podcast he does youtube dude
okay youtube guy um he sometimes does does shit on fox news too um he's awesome you ever listen
to him no never okay well if you're ever interested in uh a different side of what's going on there's
only really two sides in dc there's only two sides in dc there's the side that that believes adam
schiff and then there's the other side.
So for sure,
Adam Schiff got in front of
Congress and made up that phone call.
That Trump phone call,
the call that this whole
impeachment's about, he gets up in front of
Congress after Trump released the transcript
of the Congress. Trump said,
hey, look into Biden. He's fucking on video
talking shit about withholding a billion dollars and uh to ukraine and aid if they don't fire the prosecutor
that's looking out that's going after his son and he's on video saying this so trump says look into
that shit and so now trump is getting impeached for uh uh getting the ukraine to dig up dirt
on biden Not the crime.
They're not even concerned about the crime.
That's the Biden.
So instead of the actual phone call,
the transcript,
politics as usual.
So Schiff goes,
he pretends he's reading the transcript.
He says,
oh,
this,
it went something like this.
And then he starts reading,
goes,
listen,
I want you to,
I'm only going to tell you this seven times.
And seven,
you better listen up.
Good.
If you don't, exactly like that. If you don't, just like a gangster. I'm only going to tell you this seven times. And seven, you better listen up good. You said it that way?
Exactly like that.
If you don't dig up dirt.
Is it good shit?
Just like a gangster.
And he goes, if you don't dig up dirt.
Is there a recording of this?
Yes, find it.
Is it Liam Neeson?
Jamie, have you ever heard of it?
This is a good impression of shit.
Find it.
There's a recording of it, but I don't know that it had that tone of voice.
You know the way you're going to find it?
Listen, the only way you're going to find it, the only way you're going to find it is
if you go to YouTube, they hide everything, right?
So what you do is the workaround is you go to DuckDuckGo and in their little space bar put site, S-I-T-E, semicolon, YouTube.com, and then whatever you want.
And then it brings up everything.
I started using DuckDuckGo for searches.
It's the best.
Because you don't want them saving the show?
Because if you just go to Google, when I would go to Google, my Google app, I'd start reading
news and it would just take me on a fucking rabbit hole.
And I'd be like a half an hour later, just sitting on the toilet, my legs are numb.
I'm like, what am I doing here?
I live for that, man.
Instead, DuckDuckGo, I just go right to it and it gives you the opportunity to erase
all of your history instantly. DuckDuckGo. Dude, DuckDuckGo, I just go right to it, and it gives you the opportunity to erase all of your history instantly.
DuckDuckGo.
Dude, DuckDuckGo is great.
I heard about it from some article on the internet.
They were talking about how it's one of the best in terms of privacy and protecting your privacy.
Oh, interesting.
One of the best search apps.
But what I like about it is it just searches for what I'm looking for.
Exactly.
It doesn't give you a bunch of ideas.
It doesn't shadow ban shit.
So what you do, again, S-I-T-E semicolon YouTube.com
or whatever website you want
and then space
and then whatever the search was.
It's not too much
if you're looking for the truth.
I never go to Google.
It's never too much for the truth.
Right.
I got DuckDuckGo ready to go
anytime I want to search something.
On YouTube, I go to DuckDuckGo
because if you go to YouTube
and you could print,
you could type out the exact title of the video
and the author
and that shit won't come up.
They hide that shit.
They're hiding everything, dude.
How is it that there's only one YouTube?
In 2001.
There's BitchTube.
There's EllenTube.
What?
Ellen went,
oh, YouTube,
you're just going to make money off me?
I'm going to start my own channel.
She started EllenTube.
You can't.
Excuse me?
What did you say, Bob?
Hold on.
You can't make
a conspiracy video
and put it up
on EllenTube, though,
can you?
No, but what I'm saying
is EllenTube went,
no, no, no, YouTube,
you're not getting
all my content.
You're missing the point.
Oh, where are you
missing the point?
Well, there's RedTube.
No, no, no.
The ability to just
be a regular person
and upload something
that millions of people
are going to see,
it's amazing
that there's really
only one of those. There's Vimeo. It's amazing that there's really only one of those.
There's Vimeo.
The problem is that there's very few people that are controlling all the information.
Exactly.
Not anymore.
Facebook.
Yeah.
Apple.
Now you're getting it, Brian.
Yes.
Microsoft.
And Amazon.
It's very few people, and that's a major problem.
You know what we're seeing is they have the ability to wipe shit out off the internet,
too.
They know how to do that.
You know the one thing?
Well, and you know what else is a problem with that is that sometimes you get people that the top the upper echelon
can't even control that you know there was a an article about how cnn the upper management who
are older and a little bit more moderate we're looking they had a meeting with their young
journalists and they're like you guys are so hard in the pain against trump in every way
that we're losing viewership because there's zero
there's absolutely zero uh balance here yeah i mean you did if it's so unbelievable like i don't
even listen i know i know exactly what i'm gonna get if i go either to fox or i go when you turn
on your phone your iphone iphone's connected to that every news headline is negative on trump
because it's every single one. It's opinion.
It's not opinion.
It's like strategic.
Let's get this motherfucker.
That's what they're saying.
There's an agenda.
There's an agenda.
It's not opinion.
Yeah, but people are hip to that.
It's an agenda, Brian. It's strategic.
People are hip to it.
What people are doing is they're going, I know for a fact when I look at Huffington Post
or I look at CNN.
Or Washington Post.
Yeah, I'm going to get a biased a biased i'm not gonna get objective news
what sells now orange man bad please what sells now is if you are a pundit if you are a if you're
whoever you are you have a show like don lemon or hannity or what sells you have to you're you're
beholden to your ratings it's infotainment so you have to speak to your base their base is gone
they'll be you know they're fucking themselves yeah like because all they do is losing all their
but there's still a lot there's still a giant market so everyone says they're losing there's
no ratings are trend yeah most people out there ratings are highly inaccurate they don't really
understand them you know how nielsen's work they barely know who the fuck i agree it's so bad
and they can't really
100%
Like with streaming services
What's weird is like
Netflix controls all their things
When you do a special on Netflix
They don't tell you shit
I have no idea
You don't have a problem with that?
That's not weird to you?
They give you a lot of money
Like go ahead
But if they're giving you
But here's my thinking
But the thing is
They give you a lot of money
But I should be getting more right?
I don't know
It's a good argument
But they control everything
They control the whole network
All of it
So ratings are nonsense
They don't give a fuck
They know what's popular and what's not
So what's popular rises to the top
Like Stranger Things
And what's not they start cancelling
It's entirely up to them
It's weird from a point of an artist or creator
Because you don't really have any leverage
Other than the public zeitgeist
Whether or not your thing's out there it isn't it isn't but the weird thing is
like the rating system they have now is it's like either you get no ratings where they have all the
information or you get the rating system now it's like what is the nielsen family i mean we've done
this before they did like a hundred thousand fucking people we still use it for schooled
but what they what they find out later is that there are so many other venues that people are watching it on.
DVRs.
It's huge.
It's a giant percentage.
Hulu, all these different things.
So now we had this major jump, apparently, in the past two weeks.
But by the Nielsen ratings, everything stayed the same.
But the reporters, I think it was a Hollywood reporter or something,
he was like,
no, no, no, no.
You guys aren't looking at these other metrics.
But it's the same thing with podcasting too.
They've redone away how they judge,
how they determine the downloads for audio podcasts.
Obviously,
video,
it is what it is on YouTube.
That's easy to see.
But for audio,
they switched it up.
You know what I'm talking about,
Jamie?
Maybe they switched it completely up. What do you mean talking about, Jamie? They switched it completely up.
What do you mean?
It used to be a certain, they would take the two-minute download.
It's weird.
I don't know the ins and outs of it. But they've completely changed for advertising what they consider how many downloads you get.
It's completely different.
Because you have to listen all the way through or whatever it might be, right?
It's just that they do a different number now.
It used to be like they used to judge it from minute mark, two minute mark.
It's completely different.
I never gave a shit about monetizing my YouTube.
Not even from dad.
I don't give a shit.
That one dude that you worked with, he fucked with it.
I never even paid attention.
Finally looked back into it.
We were collecting no money.
I don't give a shit.
So if they like demonetize my YouTube channel, I never put any weird shit on there anyways.
I feel like you would make money if you did. I don't even care. I don't any weird shit on there anyways. I feel like you would make money
if you did.
I don't even care.
I don't ever want to be,
like YouTube,
I don't ever want to be
dependent on them at all.
Yeah, but you don't have
to be dependent.
I don't even care.
I don't even want to care about it.
That money means nothing to me.
I'm looking for an alternative.
Like, what is the alternative?
Bitch shoot?
And Alex Jones got completely
wiped off social media,
but he's got his own thing now going, band.media.
If you go there, people are just starting their own shit.
People are going to DLive.
And what else is there?
Do you know, Jamie?
There's got to be an alternative.
This makes bigger and bigger echo chambers is what it does.
It's good.
It's good because you don't get any dissent.
One of the good things about interacting in a YouTube format or a social media format like Twitter or Instagram is a lot of people get to see it.
That's bullshit.
No, but that's a problem.
That's bullshit.
But a lot of people get to see it and there's discussion.
When you look into the comments, people are discussing things.
They're talking things through.
But shadow banning?
People are discussing things They're talking things through
But shadow banning
You go to
Once you take it
And you go to your own
Personal website
Growth stops
It gets
Very marginal
And then the other thing
That happens is
It becomes an echo chamber
The only people
That are tolerated
Are the people
That are the supporters
Of whatever the person is
That's right
So they don't get
Any criticism
And then because
Mainstream
Or I shouldn't say
Mainstream
Alternative
And competing sites And channels Don't want to feature them, they don't get talked about at all.
You need idea sex.
You need different ideas clashing.
You have to.
You need competition.
You need the free flow of debate and ideas, and you have to have discussions, and you have to have people that disagree with each other so that you can see the error of your own ways.
If you have an intelligent debate slash discussion with somebody who knows more than you do or has a different but informed point of view, you're going to come out of that conversation different.
Yes.
You're going to make some growth.
You can't.
That's what they're afraid of.
Yes.
They don't want that.
Correct.
Well, what they want is money.
They're not banning the loony left at all.
It's because they are the loony left. And they think they're doing the right thing Well, what they want is money. They're not banning the loony left at all. It's because they are the loony left, and they think they're doing the right thing.
But what they want is money.
I was reading a thing about the head of Google, and he makes something like $2 million a year.
But if he hits these performance goals over the next three years, he stands to rake in $240 million in stock.
Jesus.
And I was like, well, no wonder why they're ruthless.
No wonder why they make these decisions. No wonder why they make these,
no wonder why they take down
the slogan
don't be evil.
That was their slogan
was don't be,
the slogan was
don't be evil.
And then they go like,
what about for $240 million?
Be a little evil.
Get a little evil on them.
They start thinking about
a couple babies.
They start thinking about
fucking tailored suits
and private jets
and champagne
and good people. Diamond rings. Yeah, good people will behave corruptly. It's hard, right? Good people.
Diamond rings.
Yeah, good people
will behave corruptly.
That's what happens
in Washington.
It's just about numbers.
Lawrence Lessig said
Washington has become
a special interest cesspool
where good people,
if you want to get ahead,
you've got to figure out
a way to be.
Good people must behave
corruptly because
it's an economy of influence.
But not all of them, though.
No.
Not all of them
because if they were all corrupt,
there would be no reason to suicide anybody.
There would be no reason to bribe anybody.
There's good people in there.
If you fuck up,
someone's willing to kill a motherfucker
just to avoid you.
You don't have to kill people anymore.
There's always good people.
You just have to figure out
who are the good people.
You don't have to kill people anymore.
Do you think Kevin Spacey's still killing people?
Didn't Epstein just commit suicide?
Do you think Kevin Spacey's killing people?
No.
Did you see that new video that came out right before the dude suicided himself that accused
him of grabbing his dick?
Oh, yeah.
Isn't it four people now?
Is it four?
Kill him with kindness.
Come on, man.
Oh, really?
And he's doing it as Frank Underwood.
You haven't seen it?
No.
Oh, my God.
And then the guy commits suicide like a week later, right?
Dude, that's what I'm talking about.
This shit's going on and no one gives a fuck.
You know Epstein was-
You don't have to kill people.
You don't have to kill people. Well, Epstein- You don't have to. I'm sure you do. No, no on and no one gives a fuck. You know Epstein was... You don't have to kill people.
You don't have to kill people.
Well, Epstein... You don't have to.
Sure you do.
No, no, no.
You just destroy their reputation.
But Epstein...
You can do that too.
Brian, slow down.
If your reputation is already destroyed, though, like Kevin Spacey, and there's a guy claiming
that you grabbed his dick, it might be a good idea to kill him.
Watch this a little bit.
Give me some volume.
He just doesn't want to go to prison, dude.
Look at this.
That's all.
We've got to avoid prison.
Hold on.
It's been a pretty good year,
and I'm grateful to have my health back.
And in light of that,
I've made some changes in my life.
What a psycho.
Dude, he's MKUltra.
You think so?
I'd walk into 12.
If this ain't MKUltra, it doesn't make sense.
More good in this world.
Ah, yes.
I know what you're thinking.
Can he be serious?
I'm dead serious.
And it's not that hard,
trust me.
The next time someone
does something you don't like,
you can go on the attack,
but you can also
hold your fire
and do the unexpected.
You can
kill them with kindness.
Whoa! Dude, he put that out and everyone is cool. Everyone's cool. you can kill them with kindness. Whoa.
Dude, he put that out, and everyone is cool.
Everyone's cool.
He's such a good actor.
He's such a good actor.
He's not a killer.
He didn't kill anybody.
I didn't say he killed anybody.
I never said he killed anybody.
He died a few days later.
Did you hear what he just said?
And do you know what he's in the middle of?
That's not, it's not like.
Hold on, Eddie.
Let me ask Brian.
It's a different time for Kevin Spacey right now.
Hold on.
Before we.
Hey, B. Hold on. Hold on. He's a different time for Kevin Spacey right now. Hold on. Before we... Hey, B.
Maybe the guy killed himself after he watched that video.
Hey, B.
Do you think Epstein...
He's like a defense attorney.
Do you think Epstein committed suicide or was murdered?
I don't know what Epstein...
Shut the fuck up!
I think that...
Defense attorney.
I totally believe he would kill himself.
Why would he want to be alive?
Where is he going to go?
I mean, his life is ruined.
Do you think he committed suicide?
It's very possible. Yeah. How many guys from kevin spacey what are you showing me jay what's going on december 26th yeah that video is posted on the 24th dude rolling stone
but here's the thing though that means the guy saw it for two days so for two days he probably
on a loop watched this video this guy who grabbed his dick he's like why didn't i just punch him uh bang yeah but he committed suicide because he grabbed his dick he said a lot more
issues than that grabbed his dick and said let's go outside and get some air that's it yes i don't
approve it but i'm just saying a whole other life outside of getting his dick grabbed by kevin
spacey a lot of people kill themselves that never got their dick grabbed by Kevin Spacey. But the thing is, this guy killed himself two days after Kevin Spacey released that video.
It could easily just be a coincidence.
It could easily be that the type of guy that Kevin Spacey grabs their dick, they're probably not doing so good in the first place.
Wasn't he super young when he grabbed that dick?
I don't know.
This is a different one. There's many stories. There's a few when he grabbed that dick? I don't know. This is a different one.
There's many stories.
There's a few guys he grabbed that dick.
He was aggressive with the dick grab.
I didn't know he was gay.
Here's the thing about it, man.
Here's the thing about it.
It had to have worked.
If he grabbed that many dicks, how many dicks did he grab that all of a sudden these guys
would goggle, goggle, goggle?
Yeah, yeah.
It's because they don't know.
No.
Because everybody's so homophobic.
I blame homophobic people on Kevin Spacey out there grabbing dicks.
I got news for you.
I'm kidding.
You know how many
home runs he hit?
I got news for you.
As much of a monster rapist
as Harvey Weinstein is,
as much of a fucking
piece of shit.
Made some good movies.
He fucked a whole lot.
All that crazy shit
he did.
Yeah.
Or that allowed it
where it's consensual.
These boys took
a lot of swings,
hit a lot of home runs.
Yes.
Hit a lot of home runs. They. Hit a lot of home runs.
They had their bag of tricks.
That's why Kevin Spacey felt like he could grab dicks because it worked before.
Because there's probably some thrilled heterosexual guy who can't believe he's got Kevin Spacey's
cock in his mouth.
It's like, oh, I can't even tell anybody.
What's in the bugs?
Hold on.
I can't even tell anybody.
Excuse me, sir.
Celebrity doesn't cut through your heterosexuality.
You understand?
It does for a really, really, really dumb person.
I would have kissed.
I might have kissed Tom Cruise on the mouth just because I was talking for an hour and
a half and I wanted to be his friend so badly.
Dude.
But that was it.
It makes, if you're really, really dumb, a super smart gay guy could talk you into blowing
him.
Wasn't that a bit like that?
How would that go?
Jason Momoa could do it.
Hold on.
I said a bit where I was always, I said I'm always suspicious of bisexuals because every single one of them I've ever met was a moron.
And I have a theory.
I don't believe there's really bisexual.
I think there's gay dudes and then there's really gullible straight dudes who get talked into blowing crafty gay dudes.
Damn, you got it down word for word.
That's a great joke.
Dude, that was... That's a great joke. Dude, that was...
That's a great joke.
There's some dudes you can fucking talk into anything.
And then all of a sudden they're like, I'm bi.
Like, yeah, Tom says I'm bi.
Fucking dick, dude.
I'm like, I don't know, bro.
Sure, man.
I don't know.
I'm just obviously just kidding.
There's definitely bi people.
Look, there's a spectrum.
There's people that are asexual.
They don't give a fuck about sex.
Well, there are guys, yeah.
A friend of mine knew a guy who would be like,
I'll fuck it.
I'll fuck anybody.
Yeah, listen.
What are you talking about?
He goes, show me the money.
You put money on the table.
There's not a man or a woman I wouldn't fuck.
Yeah, but that's money.
I mean, that guy's a whore.
Yeah, well, that guy's a sociopath.
He doesn't care.
He's just a high-level whore.
And he also said, and I'll let anybody fuck me.
Okay.
Congratulations, Dan.
That guy's name was Brian Cowan.
Same price.
He was his college.
Same price.
But I was a college guy.
What costs more?
I needed the money.
But what costs more?
Getting fucked or fucking someone?
Because if you fuck someone, you've got to get it up.
Can you text him and ask him?
If you're so hard, I don't care if you fuck me.
Go ahead. Getting fucked. No, you want to fuck me, you got to get it up. Can you text him and ask him? If you're so hard, I don't care if you fuck me. Go ahead.
Getting fucked.
No, you want to fuck me, that's another 200.
Dude, but not practically, Brian.
Practically, it'd be harder to fuck a guy.
That's like going no condom, another two.
I love that so it's two to two.
That's the lesson to fight.
Listen, listen, listen.
What would be harder to do?
Would it be harder to fuck a guy or get fucked by a guy?
Oh, dude, it's a terrible question. It's a terrible question. I don't a guy or get fucked by a guy? Oh, dude, it's a terrible question.
It's a terrible question.
I don't think you should get fucked by a guy unless you're gay.
But if you weren't gay, getting fucked by a guy might be easy.
Yeah, I agree.
Because how are you going to get it up?
You got to get it up.
Open that ass.
You got to think about what you're doing.
And then people say, dude, you had a hard dick.
You had a hard dick.
You could always say, my dick was soft.
You fucked me in the ass.
I had to do it.
Yeah, I had to do it.
I don't give a fuck.
Go ahead.
You want to fuck my shit?
Shoot.
Go ahead, bro.
I know a fighter who will remain nameless who said, he said, we were talking about, he
was with his wife, and we were talking about cheating and stuff, and he said, tell him
what I do.
Tell him what I do.
No, his wife goes, hey, tell him what you'd do if you caught me cheating.
And he goes, no, tell him.
And he goes, well, you know, there's a reason I have Viagra around.
And it's not because I need it for her.
And I go, well, do tell.
Now I'm all ears.
And he goes, well, I would take Viagra, and I would get my dick hard,
and I would fuck him in the ass.
That takes 45 minutes.
In front of her.
Whatever.
This guy's a big scary dude, too.
He's a heavyweight.
He knows who it is.
And I was just like, you are amazing.
And he was dead serious.
I'll tell you who it is next time.
That's an interesting way to approach a problem.
I bet you could guess.
Okay, we'll talk later.
Very impressive,
by the way.
So, 2019, what did we do to Ben Askren?
That was you and me, bro. We had a big part of that.
I'm still a fan.
I'm a huge fan. That's my quarterback.
I'm a huge fan, but three fights in the UFC.
It's a tough go. I think two things happened.
One, big time off
of competing. Two, big time off of competing.
Two, competing in one FC against, it's not the same level of competition, I don't believe,
as even he fought in Bellator.
Not even close.
And then three, the guy's got a fucked up hip.
He's also older, though.
People forget, when Ben got to the UFC, he was an older dude.
He had a lot of fights.
He was older.
They didn't get him when he was a young spring chicken.
This hip thing is not a new thing.
No, man.
With all due respect.
Please don't disrespect him. No, with all due respect.
With all due respect.
As great a grappler as he is, he's simply not a good striker,
and he's not close to a striker that you need to be in the UFC.
He just isn't.
Maybe I'm blind, but if you're going to tell me that Ben Askren is a…
No one's going to argue this, Brandon.
Right.
So you can't be in the UFC without being that well-rounded.
No, but he's such a good grappler that it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
He didn't lose to Damien Maia because of his striking.
True.
He didn't lose to Masvidal.
That was some crazy shit.
Who saw that coming?
Whatever happened with the Robbie Lawler fight, I believe, and whatever it was, whether he
tapped or he didn't tap, I believe there are guys in the UFC like that, a lot of guys like
that, that would have done the same thing to him and would not have gotten caught in
that thing.
I mean, I don't know.
But I mean, as great as he is.
Ben's grappling was on such a high level.
That's why we wanted to see it. You're right. You're right. His striking was subpar, for sure. Is that a response? I'm just saying, with great as he is. Ben's grappling was on such a high level. That's why we wanted to see it.
You're right.
His striking was subpar for sure.
I'm just saying.
But his grappling is so good that it doesn't matter.
That's why he was there.
He was there because he's a specialist.
I mean, his grappling is off the charts.
And Robbie Lawler, there's no argument whether or not Robbie Lawler tapped.
He definitely didn't tap.
They just thought he might have been out.
They threw him to the wolves, dude.
Think about the guys they threw.
Robbie Lawler.
That's what I'm saying.
The same thing about Khabib, though. Khabib's so formidable because of his grappling and what he's have been out. They threw him to the Wolves, dude. Think about the guys they threw. That's what I'm saying about Khabib, though.
Khabib's so formidable because
of his grappling and what he's able to do. Right, but Khabib didn't
take any time off like that.
Taking the two years off that
Askren took off and being 36.
People forget he was older, but
also when you say throw him to the Wolves, it's also like
you were a champion from one championship.
You were a former world champion, so when he
came over, the UFC ain't playing games.
Look at Eddie Alvarez.
He had a tough go.
Look at Justin Gaethje.
He was 0-2.
You want to come over and you're a world champion, you're getting some dogs, man.
Anything can happen.
It just shows you that if you're not fighting the UFC, and I know Scott Cogart, I love Scott Cogart.
If you're not fighting the UFC, it ain't shit, man.
Here's where I disagree.
Douglas Lima.
I think Douglas Lima might be right up there with everybody else at 170.
At 170?
He might be one of the best in the world.
He might be able to knock out all of them.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, yeah.
You think he beats Usve?
Listen to me.
You think he beats Kobe?
He might lose, but he might knock them out.
No, you're out of your mind, man.
Listen.
I love the dude.
Lima is world class.
He's right up there.
When I watch him fight Michael Venn and Page, when I watch him fight...
Ryan McDonald?
Yeah, Semtex, when he fought Paul Daly.
Dude, he is as legit as it comes.
Now, go through Kamaru, or go through Colby's, or go through Woodley's, or Darren Till's
past five opponents.
That's true.
You're not fighting the best day in, day out.
You're fighting one guy who's really good, and then you get two off.
He's beating the best in front of him, lost to Rory in a very close fight, and then beat him in the day out. You're fighting one guy who's really good and then you got two off. He's beating the best
in front of him,
lost to Rory
in a very close fight
and then beat him
in the rematch.
But what I'm seeing from him
is world-class skills
and ridiculous knockout power.
He may or may not
be able to beat those guys.
The thing is,
you never know.
But he's definitely
in the conversation.
For me,
when I look at ability,
when I look at what he can accomplish
Even though he's fighting
He's a big motherfucker, man
He's got some serious power
When he KO'd Korshkov, when he KO'd Michael Venom Page
He's a monster
He could KO anyone
He's a monster
And I love Lima
I have so much respect for him
But to me, until you're in the UFC
And you're in that grind It's true that you can't say he's the best.
That's true.
But you can't say he's not world class.
I'm not saying he's not world class, but I can't say, oh, he would beat the UFC's champ or he would be a top five.
You can't say it in that division.
That division's too crazy.
You can't say it in any division.
Masvidal could beat any 170 pounder alive.
On any given night, he can light up any
170 pounder. How do you think him and Usman would go?
So could Usman.
You know, these guys, you gotta realize
humans in fighting are never
a flat board. It's always
like a little wibbly, a wobbly,
ankles fucked up, I got a headache,
I'm having a hard time, wake up, my girlfriend's
fucking with me, I'm getting over the flu.
They're never exactly at the same level in every fight.
So there are guys that are at a level where you catch them when you're up and they're down and you win, or they're up and you're down and they win.
That's real, man.
Unless you're Jon Jones.
In that, Jon Jones, his wave's so much higher.
The thing is, when his wave goes down, he just hits their best.
And then he pops right back up to untouchable levels.
It's just about the size of the waves.
But he still waves.
He's got the OSP waves versus the Chael Sonnen waves.
He comes in like a fucking murderer and just smashes.
Or Daniel Cormier in the second fight.
Or when he beats Shogun.
He came in and just smashed him.
He shows that his wave is way higher than everybody else's.
To play devil's advocate, someone say the USADA wave.
Made to be shitty, but.
I don't think that's true.
I don't either.
I don't think that's true.
I think he's good no matter what.
I think he's great all the time.
I'm just saying a lot of naysayers say, well, there's the USADA wave and there's that.
Okay, but those people are not following science.
Because if you look at what USADA has shown in the test that he's failed.
They're not listening to that.
They're talking about entirely not physically active versions of this drug.
It's not efficient.
What's the word they're looking for?
Physiological doses.
It's not going to work.
It's not strong enough.
It's not doing anything.
It's not performance enhancing.
And it mimics what would happen if you have a tainted supplement.
So most likely he's taking dick pills.
Yeah, I agree.
Like everybody thinks.
Or taking Coke.
But all they're doing, Joe.
Or taking Coke that has creatine in it.
All they're doing is going, okay, when you saw those here, these were the performances.
When you saw the, I'm sorry, when you saw it wasn't there, these were the performances.
I think you have to take into account personal life turmoil.
You have to take into account arrests.
You have to take into account the crash into the woman with the broken arm.
You've got to take into account possible over-partying
and all the crazy shit that was going on.
And then suspension.
I also think a lot of people don't take this into account.
I talked to Dominic Reyes about this.
Dominic Reyes.
No, Dominic Reyes.
Reyes, the guy who's fighting him.
I'm sorry.
You fucking nut job.
Please stop.
Can you imagine someone using sleep as an excuse why they lost?
Bro, I didn't sleep that good that week.
No, but also for John.
You can't use that.
People don't take this consideration.
I also think it's tough for him to get up for the Anthony Smith and the Dominic Reyes.
I think it's tough for him to be like, all right, I fought Shogun.
I think it's tough for him to be like, all right, I fought Shogun.
I fought fucking all these superstars.
Rashad, Rampage, Chael, Liotta Machida, Vitor Belfort.
You go through the whole list.
Let me ask you this.
John Jones versus Francis Ngannou.
Why'd you have to go there, dude?
What is that like? That's going to happen for sure.
The only thing that i would hope if
that ever happens is that we allow ingano to get the press that he deserves like it like to pump
him up in a way that he deserves to make you don't think he gets it people are terrified of that man
they are hardcore fans and hardcore fighters like everybody who's in the know and everybody in the
heavyweight division but he's not like a superstar he's not a worldwide it's too tough to get superstar status you gotta do some well
the thing is if he had been a fight i think yes yeah that was a hard one the steep a fight fucked
him up too if he had beaten steep a he would help he would he would be a national hero he'd be a
huge he would be a success story yeah well first of all for sure well he's still a hero there well
for sure he is but i mean in this country he's still a hero there for sure he is
but I mean in this country
he would be a hero
of like
the scariest guy in the world
was an immigrant
that barely spoke English
just a little while ago
and now he's
murking people
and he's only been fighting
for six years
and he developed his strength
by the way
in a sand mine
when he was a child
doing child labor
it's insane
in Africa
what the fuck man
oh and he happens to be
a really nice guy
he's a great guy
he's a great guy
he's from Cameroon and he's funny he's like smile man? Oh, and he happens to be a really nice guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's from Cameroon.
And he's funny.
He's like smiley,
funny, happy guy.
He's great.
And he hits people
and they go into orbit.
They go into orbit.
Their soul leaves their body.
You know what's crazy?
You know what's crazy?
I think John beats,
still beats him.
Dude, what a fight
that would be.
He does, right?
What a fight that would be.
I think John would be the favorite.
Does John beat Stipe?
If you had a gun to your head?
I think John beats everybody.
There's not a man on this planet who beats John Jones.
Wow.
We've never seen John where he doesn't have to lose weight.
We've never seen John where he's not cutting 25 pounds and just fucking watching his diet.
What if he's eating healthy, good large portions and just hydrating as much as he wants all day long. Maybe he's 10%
better. We don't know. Maybe
Jon Jones is really the best 240 pound
heavyweight in the world. He's just been fighting
the 205.
He's 230.
He's 230 easily.
If he decided that...
He comes from one of the best camps in the world.
If Javier Vasquez and Crazy Bob
Cook get together,
and they come together with a physical plan for a Cain Velasquez, right?
If they're going to look at what's the best weight for a guy like Cain Velasquez,
they're probably going to say, you know, you don't have to lose any weight.
Like 240.
240 is the perfect heavyweight, yeah.
Jackson Winklejohn, they're going to do the same thing.
100%. They're one of the best camps in the world.
John Jones was raised in one of, you look at the success,
just go down the line from Carlos Condit.
Even Yoel Romero went down to Jackson Winklejohn.
He was training with that job.
It's going to be like AKA or like Rufus or like any of the top camp.
They're going to go, where do you think?
He's going though.
They're going, where are you going to be at?
Here he said he's going.
I know, but they're going to figure out a weight for him.
The perfect weight.
Even 235.
You said Israel Adesanya is way bigger than you thought.
Way bigger.
And he's definitely a better striker, I would imagine.
I don't know about MMA, but that would be an interesting fight.
He's just too small, I think, isn't he?
Isn't he too thin?
Well, he's a solid 30 pounds lighter, I think, walking around than John is.
That's very significant.
But that's why he doesn't want to fight him now.
He wants him to get older.
Israel can gain weight.
Israel can, you know, if he decides, like Canelo Alvarez when he went off to fight Kovalev, right?
Again, same kind of thing.
Canelo Alvarez is a world-class camp.
They figure out how to do this.
They might use a little Mexican supplement.
There definitely might be. They might use a little Mexican supplement. There definitely might be
there might be something.
But that style of boxing, it's not
that outlandish.
It's not that outlandish. When you see him, you're like,
Jesus Christ. But if he can put on the weight and physically
get up to a certain weight. Because his
skill set, his
striking is better.
Well, he's legit world class.
Legit world class.
Legit world class.
He lost in a title fight to James Willness, and I thought he won.
It was a very close fight.
The way he did Robert Whitaker.
Yeah.
And he looks like he's 6'5".
He's a beast, man.
Is he?
6'4".
But the thing about him and that whole gym, they won Gym of the Year.
Volkanovski, yeah.
Volkanovski, who. Volkanovski,
who just became a world champion.
Dan Hooker,
who bounced back
from the Barboza fight
looking better than ever.
They were fighting
your boy Felder.
That's a crazy fight.
And I think they're
in New Zealand, right?
Yep.
Woo!
Yeah.
Dude, there's a bunch
of killers in that camp.
But they would have to
formulate a game plan.
They would have to say,
okay,
what weight is the right weight?
Are you too big at 230?
Could you be 220?
Is 220, are you faster?
When do you have the most cardio?
What's the fucking point of diminishing returns?
Just like I was saying.
I think my example with Kane was probably not the best example,
but I still to this day think of him as probably one of the greatest talents
the heavyweight division
That's a great example. There's 240. It's a great example in his weight, but I don't think he ever concentrated on it
I think he was just like that just went at it. Just just trained real hard and was 240
But like the steep a steep for example 238
But like okay like here's one like Marlon arise like Marlon rise when he went to
When he fought at 135 against Cejudo and faded,
the next fight he came in lighter.
American top teams are like, listen, let's bring your body weight down a little bit.
Let's figure out what's the right formula here.
And that's why a big camp that has a lot of experience in world title fights
and knows, like seeing so many different fights,
it's so important because they can look at you and go,
Brian, I don't see you as a
70. I see you as a 55. I think
we gotta get in nutrition order. Like, what
they've done, like, think about what's
happened with Aldo just with the introduction
of a nutritionist.
135. He used to have
trouble with 45. Legitimately
made 35 and looked like a beast
and took big shots from
her eyes. Some people thought he won the fight. I thought
he won the fight. Yeah, that's fair.
I thought he won the fight. There's no argument. It was close.
It was close. I can see how you both
ways. Yeah.
But dude, that's all
about optimizing
all your possibilities. And then there's
guys like Jon Jones who don't have to do that.
He's so good. I just
want him to get a heavyweight.
I just want him to get a heavyweight. I just want him to go to heavyweight.
Because he'll get up for it. Can you imagine
the fucking trailer for him
versus Stipe, then him versus
Francis Ngannou? Him and Francis,
I'll fake. They announce that fight, I'll fake.
You just wonder, though, about his brothers
being all-stars in the NFL.
Hold on. When you say his brother,
I think was second in the league in sacks, Chandler Jones.
Think about that.
And would you say his brothers are better athletes
than John in one way or another?
You can't say that. When it comes to
what the NFL requires. Look at how much bigger
his other brother is. That's Chandler and that's Arthur.
The one on the right
is the pro bowler. He's a beast in the NFL.
If that guy's training,
he might be the only guy who can beat John Jones.
6'5", 260.
He ain't making 205, son.
Oh, no, he's not.
That dude's huge.
Jesus Christ.
But that's phenomenal.
But John grew up with those guys battling each other.
Yeah, that's the big thing is that they grew up beating each other's asses.
That's what John's used to.
And then the one on the left who's a D-tackle in the NFL, I think he's still in it,
but he would come in for John's camps and hold used to. Yeah. And then the one on the left who's a D-tackle in the NFL, I think he's still in it, but
he would come in for John's camps and hold John down.
He would?
Yeah.
Jesus.
He would train with John.
Oh, he did?
Great guy.
He's enormous.
Yeah, there's video and pictures of Arthur training with John.
He's so big.
Look how big he is.
He's got wide hips.
Oh, my God.
He's 300 plus.
Yeah.
That's a big fella.
Anyway, so it's a great gene pool
He's coming from
And you know
I have this theory about
Guys who grow up with brothers
That beat their asses
Like Matt Hughes
One of the greatest welterweights
Of all time
One of the things about him
Is he had a twin brother
That was exactly him
Doesn't Askren have a twin brother?
I don't know
I don't think so
But Matt and Mark Hughes
Used to beat the shit out of each other
He does
Check that I think Ben Askren has a twin brother You ever see and mark hughes used to beat the shit out of each other he does you know check that i think ben askren has a twin brother you
ever see joe lozon and his brother beating the fuck out of each other at a at a there's like a
family picnic the diaz brothers do they have an mma fight in the grass at a family picnic what
yeah family picnic they're they're all hanging out in the backyard of a house all the families
around with fucking red cups their their hand, drinking beer.
And these guys are beating the fuck out of each other.
My brother had to go see a therapist.
He'd beat me up so much.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Never mind.
Ben and Max Asperin.
They're not twins.
Definitely not twins.
Definitely not twins.
Yeah.
It's like that thing about brothers.
That's one of the ways
you make tougher people.
Because you don't get an escape.
Every day,
that big motherfucker is right next to you and you because you don't get an escape. Every day, that big motherfucker
is right next to you
and you're like,
shit,
you have to learn,
like Chris Weidman,
same thing.
It's probably him
when he was younger.
They did a really interesting study
about the fastest people
in the world.
All were like
either the youngest
or second youngest
or large families.
And they had to keep up
with their older brothers
and sisters.
There's some,
that's a little bit
of bro science, but that is written up in the book.
I think it's in Sports Gene.
It's Outliers.
Sports Gene or Outliers.
I think it's in Outliers.
Yeah.
It's in one of those.
It would examine why people are hyper successful.
That'd be a good name for a podcast, Bro Science, where it gets you carte blanche to talk about
bullshit, and you don't have to be an expert on it.
That's what we all do.
We all do that anyway.
We do that anyway. Besides Joe, all of us. it and that's what we all do anyway besides joe
all of us yeah that's what we do you call it bro science then you have a free pass yeah dude i do
it too i don't know half what i'm talking about if you like looked at a chart how much of what
i'm saying do i actually know what i'm talking about the difference is you'll ask questions
yeah but you'll ask them questions we just yeah but with like like a guy like lane norton i'll
i said to him one time i go let
me can i give you my theory on nutrition no let me just give you my whole philosophy and i and i
went off on insulin and lane is so great because lane just went i mean you know you're in the
general area i guess it's kind of like describing basketball as five dudes that run down and go
and try to take a leather ball and put it in a hoop.
We should talk while you're talking about him.
He did a very in-depth breakdown of all the things that were incorrect about the game changers and incorrect about the documentary debate about the game changers between Chris Kresser and James Wilkes.
James Wilkes did a good job because Kresser was wrong about a few things that he called them out on.
And Kresser didn't really didn't
he's not a confrontational guy
James is ready to go
he wasn't as good
well James is a really smart guy
he's really smart man
it's one thing that I said
about him before
before the podcast
when they were talking
about other vegan people
that are you know
proponents of the diet
I'm like
you gotta understand
this guy's way smarter
than most of these
knuckleheads
there's a lot of people
that are using it for self-aggrandized reasons.
Yes.
Is that the word?
Aggrandizement?
Gradioso?
No, self-aggrandizing.
What would you say?
Self-aggrandized reasons?
I don't know that one.
Anyway, they're just trying to pump themselves up.
What he's doing is, whether he's right or wrong,
he has a very firm belief in what he's saying,
and he's also very intellectually capable in terms of like...
He's also done the research.
And he's not scared.
He's ready to go.
Legitimately.
But there's no doubt that James Willick has done...
Wilkes.
You don't know his name.
Wilkes.
Josh.
He's done his...
Peter Pye.
He's done his fucking work, though.
He was ready to go.
I was so impressed with him.
Very impressed.
But at the end of the day...
What's the conclusion? When someone like Lane Norton goes over, not just the debate,
where they got stuck in the weeds on a couple different issues in terms of quality of protein
and calories.
They were passionate.
It's just, it's a long conversation.
It's a long conversation.
But really, it's better had with someone like Wilkes and someone like Lane Norton.
Because Lane Norton, who's got a legitimate phd really understands nutrition really understands
the science of it and is a full-on 100 science guy now there's a thing that vegans do where they
say oh that guy's funded by you know the meat industry the dairy industry no most studies are
funded by some kind of an industry that does not automatically mean that the person who put those studies out is a corrupt person.
It's bullshit.
It's a bullshit argument.
It's a straw man that they use to diffuse legitimate argument.
I think Chris Kresser should have stuck to his one point, which is you can eat some meat and dairy without dying.
Not just some, man.
Not just some.
You probably eat quite a bit.
Joe only eats meat.
Listen, but that's just now.
Okay?
I'm not a good example.
I've been doing it for, like I said, 11 days or something like that in the neighborhood.
How do you feel?
Yeah, you said you feel great.
Dude, I feel great.
I lost seven pounds.
I lost seven pounds.
I had a full six-pack now.
All my gut went away.
I still have a little bit of love handles
I got a little bit of this right here
In 11 days?
In 11 days
That'll be at the end of the month
That'll be gone
All that love handle shit will be gone
My goal
I'm like 197
My goal is like 190
I lose 7 more pounds
Turns out
Talked to my doctor when I pissed
I broke my leg
Fuck
Yeah I have a fracture
Cause I told you I was like something's fuck yeah i have a fracture because i told you i
was like something's wrong there there's a fracture where my knee and my cartilage connect you have
to have surgery no no surgery no from falling skiing some lady wiped out in front of me and i
tried to get away from killing her and i she just like she just was on like a hill trying to put her
skis on and she just slid right into the fucking trail last minute and i was
like yikes and there's kids here and it's like fuck there's too many people and i just went down
sacrifice yourself i went down but my knee went and i my head went but bang i banged my head hard
back my head cracked and i was like oh i don't need that brain damage did you have a helmet on
of course but i was like but but it was like, when I landed, I was like, fuck.
I did not need that.
And then for the rest of the day, I was a little half dizzy.
But anyway, I was like, man, there's something wrong with my knee.
I did a yoga class.
And then the next day, it was kind of a little sore.
And the next day after that, it was sore-er.
And I was like, goddammit, I've got to get an MRI.
So I got an MRI today.
And there's some sort of a fracture where the cartilage meets the
bone.
So what are you going to do?
I got to chill.
You said, dude, not that a heel on its own, small fracture?
It's interesting, because I'm not walking with a limp.
It's very small, but I only feel it when I go all the way down.
Like if I was doing a squat, ass to ground squat, I would feel it at the bottom.
Yeah, it's not doing those I would feel it at the bottom. That's when I feel it.
But I'm not. I just was trying. Is this legit
or am I being a pussy?
The thing you have when you get injured.
You said this about, I went
and got those insoles after you got them for your
plantar fasciitis. Check this out. Remember when I was always
talking about I would wake up and I couldn't walk?
My feet, I couldn't
move my feet. I had to warm my feet up. I would walk like I was 70. I couldn't walk. My feet, I couldn't move my feet.
I had to warm my feet up.
You were 70 years old.
I would walk like I was 70.
I couldn't walk downstairs.
TRT is your friend.
Right?
No, I did those insoles.
I don't have any problems.
Me neither, dude.
I bounce out of bed.
My shit's gone too.
But it dawned on me when you said it on the podcast.
When you said you're planning a fresh start, I was like, wait.
I've had no fucking problems getting out of bed.
My feet are 100% ever since I had these insoles.
You're welcome.
It cost me $100.
You're welcome.
Changed my whole life.
What are the insoles?
You go to a running store.
Was it called Runner's Roost?
Yeah, it's in Santa Monica.
I step into a mold, and then you have insoles.
It takes five minutes.
Yeah, five minutes.
And then they print them out right there.
I have them right now.
I put them in all my shoes.
Really?
His plantar fasciitis went away.
It went away?
Completely gone. Don't they say that plantar fasciitis went away. It went away? Completely gone.
Don't they say that plantar fasciitis, you can also get that to go away by strengthening
your feet?
I think doing barefoot exercises.
I had it when I was fighting and I'd be barefoot all the time.
I used to wear those naked shoes.
I used to do jiu-jitsu, run on the mat, so do my condition barefoot.
My feet were strong.
But forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think that that is is overused i think that's the thing that it comes from i think plantar fasciitis
is like a tendonitis of the foot i think it comes from overuse so where the i have tendonitis right
now where your heels at all the all the ligaments meet like kind of underneath there and right where
it meets it flares the fuck up when you have it bad you can't walk oh dude it feels like a hot
poker stick
going through your heel.
I think it's real similar
to tendonitis.
I've had tendonitis on my elbow
and I've had it on my shoulder.
I'm talking unbearable.
I couldn't run.
I couldn't do anything.
I think it's real similar.
It's gone now.
Think about all the shit
you're doing running around
when you're training
all that barefoot.
It probably puts a heavy load
on your feet.
You probably have to build up to it.
Like a guy...
But I did it for years. i was doing that for seven years then like on year seven i got it well it's probably overused yeah maybe seriously think about all
those years of training no you used to run a lot too and you're huge i still do that's i think
that's the thing too when you're 260 and you just run 270 270 270 Jesus what did you say though are you on the beach are you doing beach running what did you say though
70
running on the beach
270
what do you want to be
what's like goal
235
you can do that
oh yeah
how about you just do this carnivore diet
that's what I'm going to do
get shredded son
that's what I'm going to do
I'm going to do it with you
I'm telling you
everyone is worried about the farts
meat only bro
red meat for me and Joe dude
what scared
why are you scared about that
do you get farts
no that's the thing
not only do I not get f get first of all my diarrhea is legendary like they would talk about
it in books no i do get it right now that's the carnivore scholars scholars in the past if they
encountered this kind of diarrhea they would soon was haunted by demons you took a photo yeah you
took a photo of your shit right now but that Right now man But that can't be very healthy
Oh it's the most healthy
Wait hold on
Stop
You cleared out your system
It's science
So you're getting diarrhea
And you're eating
No no no
Most of the diarrhea
Has gone away
But the ferocity
The explosiveness
What you're saying
Sometimes I enjoy it man
The way that I describe it
Is like I do not trust my asshole
And it was coming out black
Take a look at that
Oh no
Yeah that's my toilet
Say meanwhile
What was that?
Peak of hell
Last week
Not even
Not even last week
What's today?
Just show me from there
Is that a side effect of a carnivore diet?
Yeah yeah yeah
Apparently
Tar comes out of your ass?
What happens is
Tar?
It's just black liquid
Like I'm going to write a letter to the president
Like you're a squid?
Like you're a fucking ocean squid?
Like a little squid trying to fucking dolly up some pasta.
There's something about...
You can swim.
If a shark comes at you, just shit.
There's something about having no carbs.
I haven't had zero.
I've had no bread, no nothing.
Did you get lightheaded though?
No.
I haven't had any problems.
Wow.
But the...
Other than the diarrhea, which is ferocious.
The black diarrhea?
But the thing about the... Which is ferocious The black diarrhea But the
The thing about
It says black tar heroin
Apparently carbs absorb water
They'll help absorb water
And they
They pump up
So your body
Is used to this sort of a balance
And according to
Dr. Sean Baker
I don't know if he's correct
But he's a carnivore proponent
He says that
What's got to happen
Is your colon has to adjust
To the fact that
You're no longer consuming carbs.
And your body has to figure out how to deal with all the liquid.
You lose weight when you're shooting fucking diarrhea out of your ass, man.
That's true.
But I've also been eating probably a diminished amount of calories.
And by only having one thing.
It's not really one thing because I'm eating a balance between beefsteak and elk and bacon.
And occasionally I'll have eggs. You can have eggs.
How's your cholesterol? I have some salmon.
You already asked me, fuck. You're going so old.
No, I asked you that.
I didn't ask you. Hey, you fuck.
I'm getting, I got
my blood work done on Monday and I'm going to get it done
at the end of the month too. Brian, you should do carnivore.
But here's the thing, is that dietary cholesterol
has very little effect on blood cholesterol
and body cholesterol. Most of what little effect on blood cholesterol, on body cholesterol.
Most of what people have with high cholesterol, a lot of it is genetic.
A lot of it is sedentary lifestyle.
There's a lot of factors.
Diet is one of those factors.
And there's also some people that just genetically should never have a high cholesterol diet or a high saturated fat diet.
Genetically, it's terrible for them.
Just like some people shouldn't eat peanuts or your mom brazil nuts like have you heard of that uh you
can do the you can do the bunch of tests my boy todd phelman did this and he found out if you
should be fasting if you should be having carbs what kind of carbs what kind of proteins it's
crazy man yeah i mean there's a it's a it's a super intense testing we should find out health
nucleus down and um that's craigenter's company down in San Diego.
I'm not going to San Diego.
No.
I'm going down.
For what?
It's La Jolla.
For what?
It's La Jolla.
Look, we can go and do a show.
It's a five-hour physical.
They do everything.
It's a five-hour drive, too.
I'm fucking doing it, man.
I can't wait.
Wait, what's he do?
I'm going to live forever.
It's impossible that there's something they can do in La Jolla they can't do in Los Angeles.
Yeah, how come I can't get my blood work ran?
You just know this guy.
They're longevity specialists.
He wants to use you for your Instagram likes.
And there's no longevity specialists in Beverly Hills, Brian.
Eddie Bravo hasn't talked for 15 minutes.
He's brewing with conspiracy theories.
It's just popping.
They're just popping in his mouth right now.
They do get a lot of information on you.
They do sell your data.
Your data's being sold left and right all the time.
That's a fact.
A fact.
That's a fact.
Your data's always being sold and we don't know it.
Yeah, that is a fact.
So maybe Eddie's right at the end of the day.
Maybe it's better to be more like Eddie than me.
He's definitely right about something.
Man, that's the nicest thing you've ever said about me.
It's true.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, Eddie's gotten super quiet.
As I get older, like when i find out we're allied to
for 18 years by by essentially all the top policymakers about uh afghanistan i think that's
i think that's i like the way you say afghanistan afghanistan afghanistan i love that was never a
winnable war interesting are you surprised no i'm not but uh I'm a naive. You know what it is?
I'll say this.
Whenever I hear that people at the top are doing things in their self-interest and they're allowing people to die,
you know why I don't believe it?
Because I don't think that way and I can't believe people are such assholes.
And I'm not saying I'm an angel.
I'm not saying I'm a better person.
I'm just saying sometimes people are such assholes you can't fucking believe it.
And they're successful for it and they get rewarded for it.
I also think there's people that are doing this and they've been doing this at a time where information you could hold on to it you know you could you could have secrets in a way that you
can't have secrets today i think we're just living in a totally different world totally like it used
to be that um being famous was the greatest thing ever and now now being famous, it's not so great.
It's like you're just a target.
You know, it's like being a-
It depends. You still, you have a voice.
The thing is if you can take the heat.
I'm talking about being like a famous actor or a rock star.
You're a target.
Look at Prince of England, him and Meghan Markle.
We're like, oh, we're fucking out, man.
This is too much.
Are they quitting the Royal Family? Yeah, they're moving to Canada. They're like, we're out out man This is too much Are they quitting the royal family?
Yeah they're moving to Canada
They're like we're out
We don't make money on our own
Can you imagine if you're in a tabloid
I won't blame them
Is that what they said?
Yeah they're like
The negativity
She can't deal with it
That guy's a great fucking guy
He's a regular dude
That guy Prince Harry
He's a great
Prince Harry
Is he from the royal family?
Yeah he's a fucking
He's out
Have you heard this?
He's like I don't want to do this anymore
Just the idea of you being a royal.
What the fuck are we talking about?
We in a Harry Potter book?
Is this some Game of Thrones shit?
It's so strange.
You're not a royal.
It's so...
That's not real.
That's not real, you fuck.
He wasn't disarming.
She's the richest person in the world.
Who is?
The Queen of England.
No, she's not.
Eddie Educator.
No, she's not.
Eddie, go.
Listen to me.
I don't know who has the most money.
Eddie, go.
The people that own the oil. You know what I'm talking about. Listen. People that own oil. I don't know if she's the richest not. Did he go? Listen to me. I don't know who has the most money. Did he go? I don't know. The people that own the oil.
You know what I'm talking about.
Listen.
People that own oil.
I don't know if she's the richest.
I don't know.
Listen to me.
People that own oil in Middle East, there are people that are, there's undocumented
wealth because they're not public.
For sure.
They don't have to be on the fucking Forbes 500.
They have trillions of dollars.
This is a fact.
This is an undeniable.
There's people with unbelievable wealth. You wouldn't be able to understand it. Vladimir Putin might have that kind of dollars. This is a fact. This is an undeniable. There's people with unbelievable
wealth. You wouldn't be able to understand it.
Vladimir Putin might have that kind of wealth.
He might be. He might be the richest man in the world. But the Queen
of England can go suck a dick.
Eddie, you're not going to
leave us.
Eddie, you're not going to throw out any facts for me?
That's the fucking end of the podcast.
I'm sorry, fine people
of England. It was just a figure of speech.
She's a powerful lady.
I didn't really mean it.
She might be the ruler of the world.
That's what some people believe.
She might be.
It might all be coming from her.
Edit that out, Jamie.
She might be.
She might be the most powerful person in the world.
But the idea of royals is ridiculous, man.
You know what I'm talking about.
The idea of someone being born into a position of power.
We're not saying it's logical or awesome. is ridiculous, man. You know what I'm talking about. The idea of someone being born into a position of power where-
We're not saying it's logical or awesome.
It's crazy that it's still real.
That we do care about the press.
Well, think about this.
And people are so interested in their lives.
Just a bunch of CBD oil.
Think about how,
what we're seeing now
is we're seeing clearly now,
clearly who is above the law.
There are people that can do
whatever the fuck they want.
We're seeing it now.
It used to be a myth, conspiracy theory, but we're seeing it now. Who is above the law? There are people that can do whatever the fuck they want. We're seeing it now. It used to be a myth, conspiracy theory, but we're seeing it now.
Who is above the law?
With all this that's going on with Epstein and all that,
and we're seeing how the media is backing them up, too.
How interesting is that?
Hollywood.
Hollywood backing them up.
You see here.
Wow.
That's the scariest thing ever. That's fucking Adam Sh adam ship right there they were playing out in the
hallways they were playing out of the hallways of the jail before they killed epstein no shit
it's scary prince harry just saying what this is nonsense i'm still young someone's gonna step away
from this and then maybe that will change imagine if that was like the fucking beginning of the
pieces that brought down the what is the little thing? Jenga?
Is that what that is?
Jenga, yeah, that's Jenga.
Pull out the pieces.
Big shit going on right now.
It's going on right now.
Think about his uncle.
Big shit going down right now.
His uncle with, you know.
Prince Andrew?
Yeah.
Well, that's just embarrassing because he was probably banging all the girls.
Probably is a funny word.
We got pictures.
I mean, we got pictures and the lady coming out.
I think that guy seems a little spectrum-y.
Yeah.
When he's talking, he seems a little off.
That interview.
That interview, too.
Have you guys seen that interview?
You would have to be a little fucked up to grow up as a royal in that sort of environment.
He was a victim.
Imagine you're in Harlem with some crack dealer who wants to take you around And you're from the royal family
And you're like
Oh where are we going
Yeah
You know it was tight
With the royal family
We're going to the trap house
What
The trap house
That's right
Let's try some of this shit
Epstein
Epstein
Epstein
Well not only Epstein
Epstein was tight
With the royal family
Jimmy Savile as well
So I mean
Epstein was
Yeah
Epstein was tight
With Jimmy Savile
I think Savile
No no no
Maybe For sure Savile was a celebrity He was like a Jimmy Savile I think Savile No no no Maybe
For sure
Savile was a celebrity
He was like a big celebrity
Do you know
Do you know what Savile
What
The dark side of him
Do you know
What is it
There's a dark side
He was
A lot of boys
And yeah
And he
Man
I thought there was something
Darker than that
Like is there a dark side
To the
I don't think there's much more
No I didn't think
Cause he's also known as like Dick Clark of the UK.
He was like this pop DJ.
Yeah, but not anymore, man.
Everyone knows the real story about him.
Not everybody.
Not everybody knows who Jimmy Savile is.
Most people do not know who Jimmy Savile is.
Jamie, give me a picture of him.
But people in England know who he is.
Look at how disgusting this guy looks.
Look at how disgusting this guy looks.
Okay, but Eddie, people in England who know who he is now know.
No, in England, but England's this one hundredth of Earth.
But in England, the people who knew him and grew up with him now know he was a monster.
Damn, he raped 34 women.
And look who he was typed with.
He raped children.
He raped all kinds of people, man.
He was a monster.
Wow. And he was a monster wow and he was a
celebrity that was it's the equivalent of if we found out dick clark was fucking all sorts of
boys he would he would be he would be all into raising money for uh mental hospitals because
his he preyed on mentally ill people. Jamie, click on that link that says
everybody knew about Jimmy Savile.
What is that?
Dude, the Jimmy Savile story.
That's nine hours, dude.
That's nine hours.
A former police officer has spoken about
some of his colleagues' attitude towards Jimmy Savile in the 1960s,
saying that everyone in the force knew Jimmy liked them young.
The ex-officer, who wants to remain anonymous anonymous was with Leeds City Police in the 1960s.
Was it girls or boys?
It was girls.
Girls and boys.
It was girls and boys.
I've never heard of him.
I've never heard of this guy.
This is the first time?
First time.
There you go.
But in England.
That's why it's a shame to bring him up.
This is a famous Epstein.
Imagine if Epstein was a celebrity.
Oh, wow.
That he did the same thing.
But how long ago?
it was the 1960s
but when did this news come out?
it came out after he died
but there was a lot of accusations while he was still alive
in the 60s and 70s
but he had everybody
so nobody was going to indict him
you know what I mean?
it was back in the day when you can get away with something like that
you know
dark how about that journalist who infiltrated the Vatican you remember that? Wow. You know what I mean? It was back in the day when you can get away with something like that. You know?
Dark.
How about that journalist who infiltrated the Vatican?
Remember that?
What?
Nobody needs to infiltrate the Vatican.
The Vatican is what infiltrates.
There's a French journalist who is gay himself who went in to basically interview the priest in the Vatican.
Oh, okay.
He said, I'm doing an account of the Vatican.
Well, you know he
he spent a while there a while years yeah years and and he came out and basically said in this book
um he said there's there are a lot of gay priests there and there are a lot of pedophiles and both
are protecting each other because they don't want each other to get exposed you say anybody you
tell me i fuck boys and i going to tell people you fuck guys.
And it's this whole, and it came out in the book.
It's a real, yeah.
I mean, it's from interviews.
Well, if you know the history of the Roman Catholic Church, you know, Constantine, this is like mainstream history.
Constantine, he was a pagan, which can be considered Luciferian.
Frank Bruni, there it is.
Yeah, so Constantine.
can be considered Luciferian?
Frank Bruni, there it is.
Yeah, so... Vatican's sexual...
Vatican's gay overlords.
A sensational new book
mines the Catholic Church
sexual secrets.
And he's gay,
that guy, Frank Bruni.
Will right-wing homophobes
exploit it?
Frank Bruni's gay?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, for a gay guy,
it's got to be a bittersweet thing
to know that gay wizards
control everything
to do with the Catholic Church.
And they even dress like gay wizards.
When you look at the history of the Vatican,
when you look at the history,
Constantine decided to convert to Christianity
because the people were leaving.
The people were like, fuck that.
So this is mainstream history.
Constantine goes, okay, I'm no longer pagan slash Luciferian.
I'm no longer ancient Babylonian shit.
We like Christ too. We're going to do Christ. We're no longer ancient Babylonian shit. We like Christ, too.
We're going to do Christ.
We're going to do...
This is mainstream.
We're going to start the Roman Catholic Church.
We're going to have a pope.
He talks to Jesus every day.
It's where it moves to the east.
We're going to have cardinals.
They talk to Jesus once a week.
And then we have the bishops.
They talk to Jesus once a month.
And then the priests every now and then.
And all of a sudden, they created rock stars, dudes with power.
The pope has power.
He talks to Jesus every day. Cardinals, b cardinals bishops priests right so come on back we got we got jesus for you
they made jesus and just like you're telling us things we already know no no but what i'm saying
is they were never into jesus it was never about jesus we know that yeah yeah so when you look at
the vatican you're like man the constantine didn't convert to christianity until he died
no it well maybe he did maybe he didn't convert to christianity exactly no well maybe he
did maybe he didn't but that was always like a debate about it but there was always a debate
right so when you look at the vatican they have a lot of fucking luciferian shit look at look at
the resurrection look at the sculpture of the resurrection pull that up the sculpture and you
tell me if that's jesus This isn't the Vatican Cathedral.
The sculpture of the resurrection.
It does not look like Jesus.
Have you ever been to the Vatican?
I've seen a lot of videos on it.
You should go. It's amazing just to see it.
It's pretty fucking stunning.
The notion of drinking the blood of Christ and eating it.
This is their main church.
That's supposed to be Jesus right there?
It looks like a Slayer album cover. That looks like Helloway. It's an main church. That does not, that's supposed to be Jesus right there? They just go, this is supposed, it looks like a Slayer album cover.
Well, it's an album.
That looks like Hella Waits.
It's an artist rendering.
That looks like Hella Waits.
Slayer, right there.
So they're saying.
Pull up the, go close in on it, Jamie.
This is supposed to represent the resurrection of Jesus.
How come you couldn't show the part?
How come you didn't show the part where he's like in front of a meadow and he resurrected
and there's children running in the meadow.
This is an artist.
This is not like the Mona Lisa represents all women.
This is a guy's depiction of it.
Dude, this is in the Vatican.
This is their main church.
This is the main church.
Eddie, please.
Can I just see what that looks like?
Come on, man.
It's beautiful.
Pull up.
It's an artist.
It's hell.
It's hell.
Jamie, Jamie, same picture.
Same picture.
They chose hell.
Just go back to that same picture.
It's blurry.
That's as close as I can get.
Oh, okay.
Dude, they chose the part where he's rising out of hell.
You should have chose the part where he's in the sky with the clouds.
But is Eddie, is that what it's supposed to represent?
Yes.
Him resurrected from hell.
He's coming out of the ground.
It looks like roots.
But those things in the bottom aren't faces.
Okay.
Right?
Are they?
All right.
I don't even want to argue.
It's possible.
No, I'm asking.
I'm not arguing.
It looks like hell to me. It's possible. I'm asking. I'm not arguing.
It looks like hell to me.
It's possible the artist felt the same way you did.
He was like, this is a subversive thing. Why don't you use the part where he resurrected and he's over a meadow or something?
Maybe the artist wasn't a Christian.
Hold on a second.
None of them were.
What is he coming out of?
They were all lying.
Is that the ground?
What is that?
It's supposed to be hell.
How do you know?
He's resurrecting from hell.
He went to hell and then he resurrected.
Jesus went to hell? Why would Jesus go go to hell that doesn't make any sense i don't think
that's in the scripture okay that doesn't what is that image all right the art behind he's getting
it looks like hell to me it looks like a slayer album cover the restoration of the statue of the
resurrection i've never seen that has become satan's throne i don't know. What is that? I've never seen that. It depicts Jesus rising.
Back up, please.
It's a nuclear bomb.
What?
Nuclear bomb crater.
These people are crazy people.
That's the Vatican.
That's the main church in the Vatican.
No, I understand that.
But I don't know what that represents.
You would have to talk to the actual artist.
If the Vatican hired someone to make an art piece about the resurrection,
and this is his depiction of it,
I don't know how much that has to say about the vatican's position or about this guy who created
maybe they're into jesus maybe i'm jumping by the way i said frank bruni's gay that's not the guy
who wrote the book that's a piece of shit sorry frank bruni frank is out of a bitch
i don't know if he's gay or not but i shouldn't look at the serpent cathedral in the vatican
i would like to take this time to apologize to the Queen of England.
And to Frank Bruni.
Here's another part of the Vatican.
I would like to apologize to the Queen of England.
These are just figures of speeches we rudely use here in America.
Serpent cathedral.
Apologize to Frank Bruni, too.
To defend you, though, his picture, he did look gay.
My friend Brian said you look gay.
He just meant handsome.
That's all he meant.
That's right.
He meant gay like maybe in the Flintstones.
Have a gay old time
that's all good
come see me in Nashville
this weekend
I'm down with the
Queensryche
Queensryche
that's one of my
favorite all time
that's in the Vatican
that's the serpent
cathedral
that's dope
come on man
that's a serpent
look at the fangs
and look at the eyes
that is a serpent
come on
look at the tongue
that comes out of the fangs
the Vatican's been
pretending they're into Christ.
They're not into Christ.
They want to destroy Christ.
Oh, wait.
That's supposed to be a snake?
They're trying to destroy Christ.
Oh, I see now.
You don't see the...
Look at that.
Look at the fangs.
Give it up, bro.
That's the Vatican.
That is the snake.
How is that Jesus?
How is that Jesus right there?
Where is Jesus?
Is that the Vatican?
That is the Vatican.
That is a snake.
You know what's the most amazing thing about the Vatican, though?
It's not the satanic shit.
It's St. Peter's Basilica.
St. Peter's Basilica took hundreds of years.
When you're standing in the middle of it, you can't believe it's real, man.
It's incredible.
I mean, go to that upper left corner that you got there.
Right there, Jamie.
Right there.
Yeah.
When you zoom in on that, can you click on it?
It doesn't click?
It's so amazing.
What is that?
That's St. Peter's Basilica.
What's it zoomed in on, though?
It's a fucking enormous church.
It's so much bigger than that.
It's so big.
It's hard.
But the snake one, how do we get past that snake one?
How do we get past that?
Somebody loves snakes.
Those are the same people that came up with the Big Bang Theory.
Same people who were into butterflies.
They're the same people who did the Hellow weights cathedral and then the serpent cathedral they came up with big bang theories
it's just lovely it's the same people dude they're trying to kill christ they're not trying to they're
not christian look at this saint peter's basilica no power tools no no power tools no fucking cranes
meanwhile maybe they did have power tools
it's amazing man
it didn't even make sense to me
my whole family we were walking around
we barely talked to each other even my kids
who were always like super energetic
they were just like
as a kid it's the first thing I remember
looking at and not being able to get it
I feel the same way when I go to the
Venetian at Vegas I'm like oh my god when I go to the venetian at vegas i'm like oh my god venetian i'm like jesus christ go there you'll lose your mind
you'll never you won't be able to leave yeah look at that wow look at that dude it's like a persian's
house but not anymore looking at it right now is your house looking at it looking at it right now
is one thing but looking at it when you're there in person,
it really, it's one of the reasons why people were so into believing.
That makes sense.
It's because it's so bigger than anything you've ever seen in your life that you feel
like you have to be humble when you walk in there.
There are paintings that were done, that were started by one artist and then finished by
another artist because that artist died.
It took them a lifetime and then another guy took off yeah it's amazing who gets the credit
right no one there no one in fact that's what's interesting about that kind of art it was done
for god and it wasn't done nobody signs it right it wasn't about you it was about it was about the
larger picture and that's the difference between architecture back then and architecture today
architecture like you know today you, it's about the architect.
You see these incredible structures, like, you know, whatever it might be,
these structures that we go and visit all the time.
We don't really know.
It was done by maybe one guy, then another guy.
That scenario, it was commissioned by a king.
You hear about the king who financed it.
You don't hear about the guy who built it. Because that wasn't the point back then.
Wasn't it the Freemasons that they built everything?
No, it was the aliens. It was the Anunnaki.
According to the Big Bang Theory, the expansion
of an observable universe began with the explosion
of a single particle at a definite point in time.
Oh, we gonna go there? We gonna go there, Jamie?
Georges Lemaître, a Belgian
cosmologist, Catholic
priest, and father
of the Big Bang Theory.
So he was a cosmologist
as well as being a Catholic priest.
Do you know that, Brian?
The Vatican has the biggest telescopes in the world.
They have one called Lucifer.
They have a telescope called Lucifer.
It's not the biggest telescope.
It's not the biggest telescope.
You've gone too far.
How crazy is that, right?
How about it's real? That's crazy? It's not the biggest telescope. You've gone too far. You think that's, how crazy is that, right? You've gone too far.
How about it's real?
How about it's real?
How about it's real?
That's crazy that we have telescopes?
I feel like Eddie's gone too far.
No, I don't think that's true.
I don't think that's the biggest telescope in the world.
It's one of the, it was the biggest at one time, or it still may be the biggest.
It's probably a big one.
But it was the biggest at one time.
Back before the wheel.
The Vatican, the Vatican has been, is a beautiful place.
I love it.
Have you ever been?
I was born Catholic? I was born Catholic
I was born Catholic
and you know
I'm all down
for the Catholic Church
you're gonna have to wear a wig
I love the Pope
I love the Cardinals
I love the Bishops
I love all of them
you're backtracking
you should go
you should go
you should go just to see
how weird it is
yeah
I've seen a lot of it man
and I love it
but I mean in person
I love it
in person it's strange
what does that say? Lucifer instrument it. In person, it's strange.
What does that say?
Lucifer instrument helps astronomers see through darkness.
It's at the Vatican.
I'm trying to tell you.
You think I'm retarded?
It's in Arizona.
In Arizona.
My Jesuit astronomy.
The Vatican has an observatory
in Arizona.
It's real, bro.
Named by Jesuit astronomers.
Eddie's actually.
I know.
He's not making it up.
I'm like, bullshit.
Let's see how big it is.
It's amazing the Vatican would call it.
The Vatican is the one behind killing Christ.
Amazing that the Vatican would have a telescope and they name it Lucifer.
Go to that.
Click on that link.
Yeah, why'd they name it Lucifer?
Exactly.
It's an acronym for something, but it just so happens to be Lucifer.
No.
Really?
That's them just That's what they say
Lucifer stands for something
They say it stands for something
It stands for like some kind of linear
You know what they say
You better stand for something
Or you'll fall for everything
Yeah
No more weed for Brian
What does it say here?
Large binocular telescope
Go make that a little larger for my shitty eyes
It's an optical telescope for astronomy
Located at 10,700 feet
Mount Graham in
Pinaleno
Mountains of Southeastern Arizona
Part of the Mount Graham
International Observatory
The LBT is currently one of the world's most advanced optical telescopes,
the two 8.4, 330-inch wide mirrors, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't see any Lucifer in this one.
It's probably not this one.
Where's the name?
It's the second biggest telescope, though.
Are you sure that's the name?
Eddie?
The Carl Lucifer?
No, but it was the L-U-I.
Go to DuckDuckGo.
Oh, L-U-C-I-A.
Originally Lucifer. L-U-C-I-A. Originally Lucifer.
L-U-C-I, excuse me.
Large Binocular Telescope Near Infrared Stratospheric Utility.
It's a coincidence!
But they picked certain ones.
It's a coincidence, dude.
It's a coincidence.
But they picked ones.
One letter to you.
They had to change the name.
Eddie, Jesus Christ.
They had to change it.
They picked the L. Yeah, they Christ. They had to change it.
They picked the L.
They skipped like four letters.
That doesn't make any sense.
How do they call that Lucifer?
Exactly.
That's crazy.
It was a coincidence.
But they only found enough letters for Lucy.
I like that.
Eddie's on to something here, man.
This is old shit.
This is old shit.
So when was this telescope created? When was this telescope created? I don't think there, man. This is old shit. This is old shit. So when was this? When was this telescope created?
When was this telescope created?
I don't know.
It's an observatory in Arizona.
The Jesuits were always both scientists. But when?
What's the art?
Jamie?
Scroll up, Jamie.
I think it's on the right there.
2004.
2004.
That's when they started it.
Imagine being a part of a gigantic religious institution and naming a telescope.
You could say like the God Eye.
You could call it the God Eye.
Yes.
How did that work?
Can you imagine the meeting where the top three names were like,
okay, we got Jesus Eye, we got God of Light,
and we got Lucifer.
We got Lucifer.
Lucifer.
How did that one get picked?
Can you imagine the press conference?
By Jesuits. When they unveiled this telescope at the Vatican and they call it Lucifer. How did that one get picked? Can you imagine the press conference?
By Jesuits. When they unveiled this telescope at the Vatican and they call it Lucifer?
How did that get picked?
What a weird conversation that must have been.
Come on.
There had to be one guy opposed to it.
At least one guy.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Lucifer's the anti-Christ.
I know it sounds crazy, but look.
are you talking?
It means,
I know it sounds crazy,
but look,
L,
lucent,
U,
universe,
C,
cosmology,
I,
interstellar,
F,
forever,
E,
earth,
R,
radius of earth.
Come on, man.
We dig it. It's easy.
We dig it.
It's easy.
And we dig it.
Ah!
Lucifer.
Are you kidding me?
But it's Satan.
But it's not Satan.
It's not Satan.
It's Lucifer.
It's an acronym.
Okay?
It's true.
But we are the house of God, and this is Lucifer.
It's his enemy.
It's a coincidence. It's a coincidence.
It's a coincidence.
You didn't even know it was there, right?
I didn't know it was there.
How did the Vatican relax?
The Vatican didn't name a telescope Lucifer.
Okay.
It's just from Catholic.
Okay.
But wait a minute.
This is the damage control right here.
Why was the Vatican named his telescope an Arizona Lucifer?
I'm a proud and devoted Catholic, blah, blah, blah.
Answer.
The Vatican did not name a telescope Lucifer.
The Vatican Observatory shares space, no pun intended, with other organizations and groups.
The Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment, nor can it give official
names or nicknames to things it does not own.
Another group installed a telescope and nicknamed it Lucifer.
That would be hilarious if you had a telescope neck and nicknamed it lucifer that would be hilarious
if you had a telescope right next to the vatican's telescope and you named your
max come on we have the vision of god to the heavens to prove the gospel like we're in hell
and meanwhile okay okay what about the serpent cathedral with the fangs and the snake eyes?
It's a coincidence.
What about the resurrection sculpture?
Well, you know, the serpent was the reason why we're human.
What about Constantine was pagan and said, and even the mainstream history says that he never converted.
That was bullshit.
That's mainstream.
So if he never converted.
Constantine?
I thought there was some debate.
He said he didn't convert.
But the fact that there is a debate.
I don't think there's.
It was a political decision.
Yeah, exactly.
So the one theory, and it's either one or the other,
he actually did convert to Christ,
or he just said that for political purposes,
but meanwhile he was still pagan, right?
It's one or the other.
And then you start looking at the Vatican, you're like,
man, they're the ones who are creating the stuff
that turned people away from the Bible.
They created the Big Bang Theory.
If you believe in the Big Bang Theory,
you're like, how could the Bible be true?
How could Jesus be in charge
of the Big Bang Theory? There's no God.
It's scientific, too.
You're right
but if you were trying to kill
if you were trying to kill religion
you want everything that's opposite of the religion
right
because religion the Bible tells you
that we're on a special place
wait wait wait are you saying the Catholic church
is trying to kill religion
I didn't say that.
Is that what you're insinuating?
This doesn't make any sense.
Eddie, this has become a sacrifice.
Don't hack off any dicks.
I have to.
I never said that.
I never said that.
Are we getting pizza?
Wait till the pizza arrives.
Catholicism.
Heavyweight division.
I got a little excited about that.
The Catholic Church loves Jesus.
Bro, what happens to the heavyweight division?
Damn, dude.
Do you think Stipe retires?
Stipe's having injury issues.
Is Stipe Catholic?
It won't heal.
Well, he's Croatian.
Okay.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know.
A lot of Europeans are Catholic.
Might be Orthodox Christian.
Serbs are Orthodox Christian.
I think France is going to be a champ 2020.
Well, what about Rosenstruck?
Jairzino is a fucking monster, man.
That is a crazy fight between those two heavyweights.
I don't think he's ready for Francis.
We don't know.
The way he knocked out Alistair and broke his face in half.
With three seconds left.
Yeah, but he did.
He did.
He did.
Alistair fought a smart fight, and we just had one mental lap.
Did you see what my boy Francis did, Alistair?
Yes, he did.
Yes.
But you also have to take into consideration Alistair is fighting smarter because of that fight.
I mean, Alistair's a clever guy.
He keeps learning.
The most clever.
As weird as it is, that guy hasn't been diminished by so many KOs.
He's been KO'd more than anybody in UFC history.
I don't think there's a guy that I can name.
Maybe like Peter Aerts.
Peter Aerts was KO'd
some ungodly number of times.
He had a ton of competitions, though, so it makes sense.
Alistair, you don't see any signs.
Dude, sharp as a tick.
It's weird. Tacks aren't that sharp.
Well, they are sharp.
What kind of tick do you have at your house?
Sharp ones.
I'm just making sure I'm not so high.
I don't think Rosen strikes anybody to be taken lightly.
He could beat anybody.
I don't either, but it's also like, Jesus, man.
They're both giant, too.
You just go from zero to 100 with them.
Well, who knows, man?
Look, the shots that he took from Alistair, he walked them off like they were nothing.
That was one of the craziest aspects of that fight.
Like, leading into the fifth round, he was acting like Alistair Overeem,
former K-1 Grand Prix champion, former Strikeforce champion,
former Dream champion, one of the best heavyweights really ever.
If you had a 20 list of all-time great heavyweights.
Oh, he's top ten.
He's on both kickboxing and MMA.
100%.
Hall of Famer.
And Rosenstreich is just walking through his shots.
Picks his time
and then closes the show in the
last round with like a few seconds to go.
You ain't walking through Francis' shots.
No. It's a different thing.
It's a different thing. But will he fight the same
way? Will he fight that way
against Francis? I don't know. We don't have enough on him.
I don't know. I'm interested though. I want to see.
Me too. I think it's fun. Francis to me is the scariest
knockout artist the heavyweight division has ever seen.
I don't think there's anybody that comes close.
He puts people in orbit.
That left hook on Alistair Overeem, that punch is unlike anything I've ever seen in all my years of watching fighting.
That was so brutal.
So brutal, and it seems like no incredible speed and mass.
You know what's interesting, though, is Stipe did take him.
If you go back and watch the Stipe fight, I was there in person.
Stipe ate his shots and beat him, man.
Well, he never caught him that clean like he did with Alistair that one time.
He caught him two or three times.
Pretty fucking tasty.
Stipe has the biggest head I've ever seen on a human being.
Stipe's also good at rolling with shit.
You get that VIP ticket?
What's up?
For that fight you're talking about?
Yeah.
At the UFC?
Yeah.
Connor Cowboy?
They don't hate me. I thought they hated you. No, man. They love you now. At the UFC? Yeah. Connor Cowboy? They don't hate me.
I thought they hated you.
No, man.
They love you now.
No, we're all working out.
You and Dana, you hug?
We're all going to work it out.
Have you hugged Dana yet?
No.
That's a no.
I'm going to get a group hug going.
Dude, you need to hug Dana.
We don't dislike you.
You need to hug Dana.
There's no reason.
Dana's the godfather.
There's no hate for anybody.
Come on, man.
No.
They don't hate me.
Dana's super wealthy now, so it seems like it's fine.
It's different.
It's different once you're wealthy. What other divisions we got here? You know what's on, man. No, they don't hate me. Dan is super wealthy now, so it seems like it's fine. It's different. It's different once you're wealthy.
What other divisions
we got here?
You know what's interesting, man?
Jared Cannoneer
and Robert Whitaker.
Ooh, that's coming up, too.
My thing,
that's a good fight.
My thing is,
what are you going to do
with Till, though?
Because I thought,
because Stylebender
said he wants Yoel Romero.
Then you got Till
just hanging there.
You just beat Kelvin.
Well, I think they're setting up
Stylebender and Yoel Romero.
That's what I'm hearing.
That's what I heard, too.
My position,
and this is not,
no disrespect,
my position that
Yoel Romero was
the uncrowned champ.
Yoel Romero, I think,
beat Whitaker
in the second fight.
Me, too.
And then,
but Borrachina,
you know,
there's an,
that guy scares the fuck,
but he's all injured.
He's got a bunch of injuries.
But you don't think
Paulo Costa has,
you don't think
Paulo Costa beat
Yoel Romero in that fight?
No, no, I do think he did.
So why would Yoel Romero be the champ?
Because, no, no, no, no, no.
Yoel Romero was the champ coming from the Whitaker fight.
I really believe he beat Whitaker in the second fight.
Interesting.
He hurt him bad, twice.
For sure.
And, you know, it just, if you give those 10, 8 rounds, he wins the fight.
Okay.
And I think he should have gotten him.
I think he had him on Queer Street.
Judging is so crazy. It is so crazy so crazy whitaker and it was also over there whitaker
was never in a position where he had yoel romero even remotely hurt like that okay never had him
in danger then i saw but you know obviously whitaker loses the style bender in spectacular
fashion but when i see yoel romero against paul costa i go well costa obviously is next in line
for a shot but then costa 100%. But then Costa gets hurt.
Did you lose your plug?
Yeah.
It's right there on the floor.
Right there.
Costa got hurt.
So Costa's had a couple surgeries.
I think he's had bicep surgery.
I think he's bicep detached.
I think it was...
Jesus Christ.
What happened?
See with Paulo Costa.
He, to me, is one of the most promising guys in the division.
Motherfucker never gets tired.
He's got a face like a goddamn fire hydrant.
When he beat Yo Romero, I thought he was good.
I was never that high.
When he beat Yo, I'm like, Jesus Christ.
He beat Yo Romero and walked him down.
Yeah, didn't give a fuck.
Didn't give a fuck.
He's a problem.
He's so fucking muscular.
He's so big.
Shred city.
He's so big.
He's so big for 185.
You're like, how is he going to-
He looks like a young Vitor.
How does he not get tired?
Dude, when I stand next to that guy,
a setback where I recover from a bicep surgery,
he won't be ready to fight until spring.
Yeah.
So that's a serious one, man.
When your bicep tears off your bone.
That's a problem.
That's happened to mine.
It didn't tear off, but it was coming off my shoulder.
It was coming off, and I had to restrap that motherfucker.
How about your boy Stoutbender called out Yoel, though?
He wants to fight him because he's the scariest guy.
He's like, I got to fight that guy because that guy's the guy.
Stopping is old school.
And he's also, he looks at him like stylistically.
He wants to find out if he can stop that fucking wrestling and that power.
Yoel is a freak.
Yoel never uses his wrestling.
Bro, he's because he gets tired.
He's 50 years old.
Legit 50 years old.
We don't even know how old he is.
He might be 55.
The tubid system.
That's what's impressive.
But he was so funny.
What's the official word on his age?
He's like 47.
41.
57.
82 years old.
When he was here, he was talking about Cuba.
Not conspiracy theory.
Not YouTube shit.
He was here.
They always assume that Cubans are fudging their age a little bit.
But that's like a stereotype that's been going on since the Olympics.
It's racist.
To Phil Stevenson.
from fucking to phil stevenson but when you when you when he talked about when yoel romero you know would talk about uh genetics and his physique he's like go to cuba walk around he goes everybody
look like me he's like it's true man they got crazy genes man think about how many world-class
boxers world-class wrestlers world-class judo people. Hector Lombard. Hector Lombard.
Another example.
Small players.
They get some freaks, man.
Yes, man.
I ran into him
at that Quintet Ultra show.
Amazing box.
Hector Lombard.
Dude, I love that guy.
He's a beast.
He's so fucking hilarious.
The fight is done.
Israel Adesanya confirms
he is set to defend
the middleweight title
against Yoel Romero.
What's the date?
What's the date on that?
They have a name,
date, and venue.
Is that a today? Yoel has trouble making 85 or no? Yes. He does. He's the date? What's the date on that? They have a name, date, and venue.
Is that a today?
Yoel has trouble making 85 or no?
Yes.
He does.
Yeah, he's missed weight.
That's why he wasn't a champion.
I mean, he struggles.
He struggles a little bit.
But, I mean, that's when he knocked out Luke Rockhold.
He should have won the title.
Yeah, but he missed the weight.
But he didn't have the weight.
But I think Stylebender, though.
I like Stylebender's chances in that.
Hey, man, you know what?
I do, too. I think Style's his time clearly one of the best middleweights we've ever seen
dude his striking is for uzman uzman is to me i see uh like a term when you see uzman you see a
terminator he's going through motherfuckers when you see see Stylebender, you see like a Bruce Lee.
He's ahead of the game.
AI motherfucker.
Stylebender, though,
it's very subtle.
You actually never see him get,
nobody gets a shot off him clear.
Well, Gaslam does.
But not clean.
How dare you?
No, no, no, that's true.
You didn't watch that, right?
No, I did.
I saw that.
His face was all fucked.
That's true.
Hit the showers.
That is true.
That is true.
Hit the showers.
Gaslam, For his physicality
And his size
And what he's working with
Is another one of those guys
Like Daniel Cormier
Who's so impressive to me
Gaslam's a tank man
He needs to be a 170
I think
I think so too
I think he's a really good
Tough cut for him
A 170
He needs a real nutrition
Yeah
He needs to not get so big
Outside of the fight
I think a 170
Kelvin just runs
Through motherfuckers
He might be the world champion at 170.
I think he'd be world champion at 170.
I believe that.
We just have to get him.
I think he'd knock dudes out.
It's like we're a plan.
But if someone did get him to a real nutritionist,
and he did it Jose Aldo style,
where he took his time and did it over a long period of time correctly.
Where is he training?
It's hard for Mexicans.
I think he's king.
We love food.
It is.
Eddie's one of his coaches.
Oh, you are?
He's a 10th planet black belt.
He's phenomenal, man.
Yeah.
He'd be champion.
He trains at King's MMA and then his jiu-jitsu.
He trains with Victor Davila, one of my other black belts.
He was at the comedy store last night, I heard.
Who?
Was he?
Kelvin?
Oh, Kelvin loves comedy store.
Yeah, he's always there.
He's a great guy.
He's a great guy as well.
He's a great fighter.
Kelvin is one of the nicest guys of all time. He's always there. He's a great guy. He's a great guy as well. He's a great fighter. Kelvin is one of the- He's so tough, though.
The nicest-
Is he?
Guys of all time.
He's so nice.
He's so shockingly tough, though.
I look at his body.
I look at him and I go-
Zero fear.
There's no reason he should be that tough.
There's no reason he should be able to hit guys who are that much taller.
And he's just-
He's astonishing to me.
Yeah.
Zero fear and just the nicest guy.
When he fights, there's no anxiety ever with him, dude.
Never.
He loves it.
He's like Tony.
Him and Tony just go out there.
You haven't started camp, though, for Tony, right?
Not yet.
Not quite.
He's always training.
He's always training, but the camp won't stop.
If one of those two get hurt, man, I'm going to freak the fuck out.
What does Tony do when he's not in camp?
He's training.
Everything's going on with your phone,
bro? Your government recording house?
No, I just have my phone on.
He trains every day? Tony's training
every day, man.
He's just...
His secret weapon
is that
that's his default setting, is
train, do cardio,
do some kind of shit.
He's doing something every day.
He just loves it.
Yeah, yeah.
Those are the guys that never get out of shape.
Dude, how about your boy Volkanovsky?
What about him?
He's a monster.
Oh, he's a beast.
He's being tough.
Wilder's going to beat that kid.
He's a guy who beat Uriah?
I'm really curious to see how-
Max Holloway.
Max Holloway.
I'm really curious to see how-
Just please, go take a leak.
Hit the fucking showers
I'm sorry
I'm bad with the Russian names
Who beat Uriah
Who beat Uriah
The Russian guy
What's his name
I don't remember
Piotr
Piotr what
Piotr Vasilyanis
Jan you piece of shit
It seems like more and more Russians
Are just
More Russians are coming in
And fucking people up right
With so many animals
That's gonna be like
They're built different man
They have extra tendons and shit
They're harder Like Dagestan They have extra tendons and shit.
They're harder.
They're harder.
Is there a big heavyweight Russian that has a promise?
A few guys, yeah.
No one that stands out
where you look at him
and you go,
well, Usyk in boxing.
Nobody like Drago?
What do you think about Usyk
moving up to legitimate heavyweight?
I think he's going to
fuck dudes up.
You think so?
I think people are scared of him, yeah.
I'm really interested
to see him against... When you get to the top of the heap. I think he's going to fuck dudes up. You think so? I think people are scared of him, yeah. I'm really interested to see him against,
you know, when you
get to the top of the
heap.
I think he's going to
get in problems.
Isn't he too small
for those guys?
No, he's so talented,
man.
There's no Drago guy
like this ferocious
guy.
U6 is going to be the
closest thing.
He's going to be a
problem.
U6 had one fight at
heavyweight.
One fight at heavyweight.
And then they're
already moving him
into title position.
Oh, yeah.
He's there.
Yeah. I don't know. Can you imagine a Khabib at 205 or a Khabib at heavyweight And then They're already moving him Into like title position Oh yeah He's there Yeah
I don't know
Him against
Can you imagine a Khabib
At 205
Or a Khabib at heavyweight
Something like that
I think Khabib is going to fight
At 170 before he's done
I really do
I think he's going to fight
Where he doesn't have to worry
About cutting weight
It'd be him and St. Pierre
At 70 then
Because he's not fighting
Just the boys at 70
Well they would meet at 65
I think St. Pierre said
That he could legitimately
Get to 65
And they could do A catchweight fight Khabib would go to. I think St. Pierre said that he could legitimately get to 65 and they could do
a catchweight fight.
Khabib would go to 70
though, I bet.
Big fight.
Yeah.
What a fight that would be.
Khabib and GSP at 65.
How old is GSP now?
He's 37.
He's still young.
He still wants to fight for sure?
Yes, and he's one of those guys
like Tony.
He's consistently active.
That boy was thick
against Bisping.
He looked great.
Yeah.
But he said he had a real problem
for that fight.
He was eating too much.
He was thick.
He said he was having digestion problems because he had to consume so many that fight He was eating too much He said he's just like
Like he's having digestion problems
Yeah, you can tell
Because he had to consume so many calories to stay that big
He looked a little
Yeah
Yeah, so he's
Doing a lot of water exercises
He puts these
GSP puts these things on his hands and his feet
He does all these crazy water
I used to do it with him
Yeah?
How was it?
We used to do it in Laguna Niguel
It'd be our workout
We'd be in the pool for an hour.
And he has these things.
It's just like...
You're doing sprints?
No.
It's almost like you grab these handles.
There he is.
Joseph Pierre.
And what does it do?
It's a workout.
For your shoulders, your condition.
It's a fucking beast.
Give me some volume on this so I can hear what he's saying.
Can we get some volume?
Damn.
What are those things he has in
his hands and also improve the core strength so what i'm gonna do is i i use the pool i try to be
in a place where it's not too deep uh if the depth of the pool is not good enough like like this right
now i try to submerge myself to the shoulder then what i do is i i i make a punch and i go with rotation
and supination in the same time as i'm doing it i focus on pushing but also on pulling
that's not easy that's why he's got a stiff jab that's the jab right there i can do a set of
230 there's also no punishment On your bones or body
That's cool
You say 230 or 240
So does 230 of those
One thing I noticed about him
Is his fucking legs
He's got huge legs
It's all in jeans
Don't look at his legs dude
Bro how about that video
I sent you
That guy live streaming the war
Oh Jesus Christ
That depressed me
Jamie you wanna see this
I thought
What the fuck, man?
What kind of a world are we living in?
The guy's just like, yeah.
How, how?
Boom!
His boy's behind him.
What happened?
What was that?
Hey, were those Americans?
When was that?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Was that like 10 years ago or something?
No, I think that's a real reason.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm going to send it to you right now, Jamie.
You haven't seen it?
Oh, you saw it, right?
It was in the group chat.
Yeah, I saw it.
It was fucked up, dude.
That shit could be easily faked these days now.
Oh, Andy, Jesus Christ.
No, they got apps where people can blow shit up now.
Right, but I don't think that was fake.
$2.50.
We also have dudes who are actually fighting in a war who have cell phones.
And they're actually getting cell phones.
Watch this.
Look behind.
Look behind.
Oh. Bro, that Look behind. Look behind. Oh.
That shit is real as fuck.
That was real.
Real as fuck.
I just don't know if this is American troops.
Probably.
Does it say, Jamie?
God.
Jesus Christ.
Dog.
When you see bodies go flying and shit, you realize everyone's gone.
I hope they didn't.
You'd probably be better off without your seatbelts.
Is that American?
I don't know what that is.
Jesus Christ.
That guy looks like he was...
The guys who got hit looked like they were probably not on our side.
I don't know.
That looks like an IED or something.
Damn.
I don't know.
I just hope nothing happens with this Iran shit.
Nothing's going to happen.
Nothing's going to happen.
Oh, well, now that Eddie said it, I know you've kept abreast of...
Nothing's going to happen.
I don't think it's in Iran's vested interest to really do something serious.
You know what?
I mean, we talked about this earlier.
What actually happened is when they bombed, when Iran, like they swore revenge, they raised
their red flag, and they were going to bomb.
Twice, man.
They bombed and they killed nobody.
But in their media, they reported that they killed 30 Americans.
So it looks like a real retaliation.
Got a safe face.
That's what it's all about.
Got to rattle swords.
Because when it all comes down, dude, we're surrounding, we got military bases all around Iran.
What are they going to do?
They know that.
I feel like if the intelligence hadn't come back, that there was something imminent.
This guy, we knew this guy, he was in Baghdad.
He wasn't doing things that were this guy's a serious terrorist things that were in our interest no no we do know that going back to actually bush too we know that he
he was a the mastermind of a lot of this yeah sort of international to be taken out controlling
hezbollah trying to set up those kinds of states and all these other things so if trump wouldn't
have taken him out then the loony left would
be going after him for not taking him out.
Well, here's the thing, also.
Trump has been very disengaged
with the Middle East. He's like, I don't want to be involved in the Middle East.
You want to pull the troops out of the Middle East.
In a lot of ways, I agree with this policy.
And I think that Iran got emboldened
and started becoming more active
in the spheres of
influence that we are trying to...
Well, what happened was, is they made a lot of deals while Obama was in office,
and Trump was like reneging on all that.
He's like, who made these stupid-ass deals?
So Iran's like, fuck you.
I thought we had a deal.
Trump's like, fuck that deal.
That deal goes against the United States.
So fuck all that.
That's what's going on.
So fuck all that.
That's what's going on.
So the rumor is that the president of Iran wasn't getting along with Soleimani anyways.
So Trump said, let's take him out.
I'll do you a favor.
I look like a bad motherfucker.
And then you say we're going to get revenge.
You bomb a base that has nobody.
You claim that there's 30 people. everybody in Iran goes oh we got revenge
and then everybody's fine
I can see that
nobody wants World War 3
who wants that shit
who's working tonight
we're on the same card
I gotta go see my kids first time
none of you bitches are going anywhere
we just got started, dude.
We talked about three fights.
It's six o'clock.
You don't have nowhere to be.
All I gotta do is a 7-15 show.
No, no.
I gotta put my son to bed.
So, Hudo's vacating the flyweight title.
Makes sense.
So, our boy, Joseph Benavidez, finally gets a title against a Brazilian gentleman who
pull up his name, Jamie.
I don't want to fuck up the pronunciation.
It's tough to remember any flyweights.
Can we talk about Connor and Cowboy, please?
We already did, but you weren't here.
You missed it, dude.
What's your call?
And I talked to Luke Thomas about it for an hour straight.
It can go either way.
It can go either way.
Maybe, I mean, who the fuck knows?
Figueredo.
Yeah, that's right.
Davidson Figueredo.
He's a beast. That'll probably be the last one in the division, huh? Heiredo. Yeah, that's right. Davidson Figueiredo. He's a beast.
That'll probably be the last one in the division.
He's a dangerous dude, man.
You know, Joe Benavidez has been training 10th Planet the last couple years.
I don't know if you know that.
Has he?
Where?
Las Vegas?
Yeah, 10th Planet Las Vegas with Casey Halstead as his coach.
Nice.
Beautiful.
I love Joe as a person.
I'm a big fan of him.
He's one of my favorite people.
And I feel like, you know, for him, he had an ACL tear, had to go through surgery, came back, and then him He's one of my favorite people And I feel like You know for him He had an ACL tear
Had to go through surgery
Came back
And then the title's
Kind of been in limbo
Had a close fight
With Henry Cejudo man
Very close fight
Split decision
Very close fight
Didn't he win?
Yes
He won
He beat Henry Cejudo
He's one of the few guys
That beat Henry Cejudo
So if anybody deserves
A shot at the title
It's Joe Benavidez
For sure
I'm real interested in that rematch
between Volkanovski and Max.
That's happening immediately? I don't know.
I would imagine you would have a rematch.
Is that a good thing to make immediate rematches?
Max said something. He's like, I need some time.
I'm going to rest. Maybe he wants it now.
They want to do it in Australia.
Volkanovski wants a rest too.
Here's the thing.
145?
People talk about 55. People talk about 55.
People talk about 70.
People talk about 145 in the UFC.
That might be the deepest division.
Bro, how about the Korean zombie taking out Frank Jaeger quick?
I was surprised.
So you got Korean zombie.
You got Yair Rodriguez.
Your body looks deep.
You got your boy fucking the hormone monster.
What's that, 135?
You're talking 35 or 45?
45.
You also have Calvin Cater, who almost took 45 Zabit's the freak Calvin Cater
Who almost took out Zabit
In the third round
Correct
Brian Ortega
But Calvin Cater
Is now going to fight
Jeremy Stevenson
That's a crazy fight
Dude that Calvin Cater
Is the dark horse
He's the dark horse
He's phenomenal
He's the dark horse
But Zabit beat him
No no no
Let me tell you something
Zabit
If that was a five round fight
Zabit was in trouble
Big trouble
That third round
He was getting stunned.
He was on his bike.
You watched the interview, the post-fight interview, which I just watched the whole fight and the interview this week.
And at the end of the fight, he was heaving, breathing hard.
I did not expect him to come after me so hard in the third round.
And he took him down at the end of the third round, just held on.
And while he's just holding on, Calvin Cater is battering him from the bottom.
He didn't try to get back up.
He just punished him from the bottom.
And Zabit did zero damage with that takedown.
45 is the best division in the UFC.
Calvin's fucking dangerous.
And he's getting better.
He's getting better and better and better.
He starched Ricardo Lamas.
He's a fucking beast, man.
What do you guys think about Bryce Mitchell?
Is he rising
at 45 or is it 55?
He'd be 55, right? The guy who won
submission of the year. With the
Twister? The Twister, yeah. He's 55,
right? Oh, isn't he 45?
I don't know.
How many fights does he have in the UFC right now?
I don't know, man. All I know is that he's got
a Twister. That's it.
He said he learned it online.
That's awesome.
Did you see his interview with Theo Vaughn?
No, I didn't.
Dude, you got to watch that interview with Theo Vaughn.
It's two dudes from fucking Arkansas and Alabama and Louisiana.
It's hilarious.
That's so funny.
He's like, he's the Theo Vaughn of the UFC.
He's hilarious.
The camera pants.
The camera shorts. Oh, yeah. He's hilarious. The camel pants. The camel shorts.
Oh, yeah.
He's hilarious.
I love that guy.
Sugar Sean O'Malley's finally get back in the game.
He fought in Quintet Ultra.
He got fucked.
He got fucked over.
He's one of the guys that got fucked.
Bro, speaking about getting fucked over, how about Cub Swanson?
Rolling with Jake Shields.
Yeah.
Did you guys watch that?
His ACL explodes.
You got to get on UFC Fight Pass And watch Quintet Ultra God
I cancel UFC Fight Pass
You cancel it?
Cub fights at 145
Jake obviously
When MMA was fighting
He was fighting at 170
He's way bigger guy
He walks around at 190
He's a bit
He's probably bigger than that
And he had a
A ridiculous reap
Like it was a
Exaggerated reap
On that leg man
It was like
Wait
It wasn't even a reap
In between the legs It was a reap it wasn't even a reap in between the legs.
It was a reap across the hip.
And blew Cub's shit out.
Dude, his leg just blew out.
It was really fucked up.
It wasn't even a submission.
It was in the process of
essentially...
Yeah, he's reaping the leg.
Jesus, man.
It was so bad.
He's pop!
And you see him,
and he falls down.
And then you look at Cub.
Game set, man.
Married kids.
Only source of income.
Going to be out for a year.
Yeah.
How about that?
How about that?
You're just laying there.
For a grappling match, you just beat Chrome Gracie.
And now you're in a position where you're out 100% for a year at 36.
It sucks.
Totally.
I would not fucking do a grappling match if I was a world-class MMA fighter.
Don't say that.
Don't fuck up the grappling scene.
I wouldn't do it.
Depends who I am.
It's not worth it.
Edit that out, Jamie.
No, it's not worth it.
Edit that out.
It depends who I am.
I apologize again
to the Queen of England.
I fell.
I stepped out of line.
I blame it on alcohol
and marijuana.
I'm glad marijuana's illegal
in your country, ma'am.
Hey, listen,
I will say this.
When the Queen was 19,
look her up.
Stunning.
Now it's even worse. Seriously. We've sexualized her. Stunning. Now it's even worse.
Seriously.
We've sexualized her.
Now you've gone too far.
You've pornographized her.
And she was super nice.
I don't think that world-class fighters should be fucking jet skiing, and I don't think they
should be fucking jumping motorcycles over cliffs.
Cowboy says, hold my fucking beard.
I know.
Cowboy should be able to do whatever he wants.
Cowboy cave dives.
But if I was tight with Cowboy, would say dude it's not worth the risk
Obviously he doesn't care
And he would laugh
He'd laugh in my face
That's who he is man
He is who he is
But like legitimately
You look at Cub Swanson
That guy just ran into a giant problem
That shouldn't have existed
The position wouldn't have been available in MMA
The way it was in grappling
That could happen in training though with Cub too.
But he wouldn't be grappling in a competitive
manner against a guy who's 30 pounds
larger than him.
Jake is so strong. At Jackson's though
I'm sure he worked with big guys.
It was a freak thing. It could happen.
But it was competition.
It could have happened in practice.
But less likely.
It was a freak thing.
It was a freak thing. It was a freak thing.
It was a great show, though.
So did Gordon Ryan really retire?
Is that real?
I think so.
Why not, right?
He should do MMA, though, right?
He should.
I thought he said he was.
All I know is he was on a trip, road trip, doing seminars everywhere, selling out and shit.
And then something happened where he decided
he was like you know what let me slow down and enjoy life what a baller that's what he said
that's what he said so how old is he i don't know 24 maybe 24 maybe he did some mushrooms or
something and realized the best in the world you don't get to go at 24 you don't like all right
yeah you do though right tell us again about tell us again about Bohemian Grove. Yeah. Just to fuck off.
Fuck off.
Fuck off, man.
Every time you're going to try to make a point, we're going to bring up Bohemian Grove.
You're like, ah!
Come on.
Tell us about 24.
Fuck that Bohemian Grove.
Hey, I didn't.
That video was very blurry, dude.
I don't know.
That was a corn content. That was like UFO shit.
He said it was a corn thing.
Yes.
Being retired gives me an opportunity to expand on things I didn't have time to focus on while
I was trying to be the best, excited to learn.
That's cool.
You know what?
As far as what he's accomplished in jujitsu, he's done more than most people.
So if he wants to retire, he can retire.
But also, maybe he wants to retire He can retire But also maybe
He wants to do other shit
I'm out
Fuck it dude
I'm over this jiu jitsu thing
I'm gonna go do this
You know what he could do
Seriously
All he needs to do
Is just open up a school
He'll have 400
500 students
He'll make about
60, 70 grand a month
And it'll be a nice
Easy life
We might not want that though
Some guys just want
To get done with the game
No no no
He wants to teach No no He wants to teach Does he? All he's gotta do Is open a school be a nice easy life. You might not want that though. Some guys just want to get done with the game. No, no, no.
He wants to teach.
No, no.
He wants to teach.
Does he?
All he's got to do is open a school.
He'll have three, 400 students easy.
He'll make 60, 70K a month easy.
And he'll just be chilling,
just training guys.
That's the easy life.
Hey, Brian Callen.
He's already beaten fucking pretty much everybody out there.
I have a proposition for you,
Brian Callen.
Steve Rinello sent me a bunch of dates. he wants us to come and do his live podcast he
offered it to me in anaheim i'll do it but i was out of town um let's let's fly in somewhere and
go do his live podcast somewhere just for fun i'd love to do that have a good time and i want to go
hunting now we can do it in new zealand my boy joe janimore offered us that too far i don't
want to go to new zealand okay so you can't bring the meat back. You got some connections in New
Zealand?
Oh no that's not true.
Brian Callen.
You can't bring the
meat back from
Australia I think.
I think you can bring
the meat back from
Australia.
We need to go hunting
somewhere.
It's so much fun and
it's sad.
You don't fucking
care.
I do care.
You know what?
Brian he does care
about you.
Brian.
Can I have that? Is that the only one you have? That's the only can I have that is that the only one
you have
that's the only one
I have
dude that is scary
that's a legit
Aztec Mexican
death whistle
I'm getting chills
right now
like some dark
evil spirit
just
hey for reals
I'm leaving though
I gotta put my kid
to bed
I have to before
he goes
is everybody leaving
or is it just me
and Eddie
I'm leaving
come see me in Nashville.
No, you got a show tonight with me at the store, bro.
And I got Nashville tomorrow.
What time is your show?
Tonight?
We're on the main room at 8.
Oh, okay.
Main room at 8.
Who's doing that?
Who's show is that?
Josh Adam Myers.
Okay.
I will...
I'll keep going with Eddie for a little bit.
You guys get out of here.
Come see me in Cleveland at the end of the month, too.
I'm going to convention in the world is round.
Oh, do it.
Oh, shit.
I'll see you guys next week. This is a talk about my... Go to my website and talk about, too. I'm going to convention in the world is round. Oh, do it. Oh, shit. I'll see you guys next time.
Go to my website and talk about my dates.
I'm in San Jose next week.
How's your show doing?
Is your show doing good?
Yeah.
BrianCowen.com.
T5K.com.
B-R-Y.
West Palm Beach Improv.
Oh, when are you there?
I'm there Valentine's Day.
Oh, adorable.
In Cleveland, I'm at Hilarity's.
I love that place.
January 30th, 31st. Hilarity's I love that place January 30, 31
Hilarity's the shit
Is that Fort Lauderdale
West Palm Beach
Yeah
You can take that
Lolita Express
Right there
West Palm
Okay
I fly in
It's right there
BrianCown.com
All these guys are opening for me
TFatK.com
I love you guys
We should do a
Fight Companion show boys
We really should
We should do a show somewhere
At a theater
We're doing a show
at a theater
like all of us
do stand up
we did that
at the ice house
yeah we could do
more of those
did we do it
yeah we did
we did one at the ice house
we did one at the ice house
let's do it like
in places like
it wasn't an official
fight camp
fight companion show
we were all
it was the four of us
let's do it
nobody can hear you
motherfucker
do you understand
microphones
get up on that bitch let's do it like you know let's go like to, nobody can hear you, motherfucker. Do you understand microphones? Get up on that bitch.
Let's do it in like,
you know,
let's do like,
like British Columbia,
places like that.
Fucking Canada.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
Let's do a fucking tour.
Canada?
Make money.
I'm down.
I'm down to do a tour.
Let's do it.
We'll talk.
Just four dates.
Four dates.
That's it.
Four dates is good.
Fine.
Let's do it.
That's a good number.
All right.
Dude,
we would pass that shit up.
Thank you.
Love you, dog. Be careful. Drive safe. Don't give up your's do it. That's a good number. Dude, we would pass that shit up. Thank you. Love you, dog.
Be careful.
Drive safe.
Don't give up your back, bitch.
That's Gordon Ryan right there.
That's Gordon Ryan right there.
Stop, boy.
Stop.
Stop.
He's going to grab your dick.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Brian Callen, ladies and gentlemen.
Joe on a fucking zone.
You just want to keep going.
I love that shit.
You're like, fuck those dudes.
Well, you and me,
we don't get a chance to hang that much.
They have to go.
We don't have to go.
I don't have to go nowhere.
I don't have to be anywhere until 7 o'clock.
That's 40 minutes from now.
Oh, shit.
I'm good.
Where are you going?
Son, I just got family shit to do.
No spots tonight?
I have a spot tonight.
Where at?
I'm at the store at,
I think I'm at 1015.
I have to check my schedule.
You're doing next Tuesday tuesday night that's probably already sold out as soon as you're on there it's sold out i don't know
no as soon as you're on it sells and joey's on you and joey i think whitney's on too you and
whitney's the late show oh okay you and joey at eight o'clock at the comedy store i am sure it's
sold out and then i'm leaving and going across the Comedy Store, I'm sure it's sold out.
I'm sure.
And then I'm leaving and going across the street to the improv, going down the street.
I have a 10.30 at the improv on Tuesday.
Yeah, I've been doing the improv a lot, man.
I like it.
I like it.
I did it once.
I'm trying to juice it back up, too.
I'm trying to bring everybody over there.
I'm like, hey, guys, we can go both places.
You can do an 8 o'clock at the improv, a 10 o'clock at the store.
You can bounce back and forth.
You don't fuck with La actor not really there's enough gravy to go around for two two
great clubs i think i like the way they handle things at the improv they're nice people you know
the people that run it are cool i've been going there forever and they kind of took me in after
i left the store so i feel obligated to like continue to perform totally totally yeah I like it there man
Paige is awesome
Rita's awesome
the people that run it
are awesome
it's cool
and it's right across
the street from a weed store
I did improv once
and Laugh Factory once
the improv show
I did with
Tony Hinchcliffe
he had his friend show
that one great
you know how
his Alabama bit about how yes
alabama don't give it up but yes dude hilarious it just so happened that that week i had 10
motherfuckers from alabama 10th planet decatur alabama come in and come to see me do a live show
at the improv they were all there from alabama and three of them were cops oh no and
they're mad at tony no no they loved it they loved it no no no but come on that's hilarious
he's got that alabama bit it's a funny bit yeah it's a it's amazing and they all loved it they
all loved it man have you seen his me too movie bit no i'm not saying nothing we'll talk later
i love tony he's hilarious man he's out there swinging that guy's a beast that kid's swinging Have you seen his Me Too movie bit? No. I'm not saying nothing. We'll talk later. I love Tony Hinchcliffe.
He's hilarious, man.
That guy's a fucking beast.
He's out there swinging.
That guy's a beast, man.
That kid's swinging.
He works hard, man.
I've known Tony for a long time.
He works hard.
And like we were talking about earlier,
I really am happy that the comedy scene
is slowly getting braver with jokes.
It seems like it's a weird thing
because in the 80s,
it was like the cool thing to be a liberal
and I'm Democrat and Republicans.
They're just Christians.
They have family values.
They don't want to get hired,
go to heavy metal concerts,
fuck Republicans.
But as you get older and you have kids,
and I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened i don't know what happened but
it seems like now the cool kids are republicans well do you know that expression show me a young
man who's not a liberal and i'll show you a man with no heart show me an old man who's not
conservative and i'll show you a man with no brain there you go there's certain aspects of me that
have become more conservative as i've gotten older i've like appreciate hard
work more i i understand like the mental pitfalls involved in self-pity and a lot of family values
man that's the number one thing because when i grew up there were no family values and i thought
family values is a way to control you they're trying to control you with the family values in
christ yeah and the older you get you're're like, I was a fucking idiot.
Of course it's all about family.
You've got to have values.
A dude with no values is a dude you can't trust worth a shit.
I ain't going to trust.
It's also when you have something to lose,
you realize that everybody has something to lose.
You commiserate with all the other people that also have families.
That's one thing when you go to family gatherings and everyone's got their kids like you feel about their kids the way you feel about your kids like you want to look out he's
going near the stairs like you don't this is what communities and tribes used to be like yeah like
we gravitate towards that it's good for everybody yeah it's a you know what um i used to think
growing up that giving into your
desires was like that's your right that's my right if i'm horny i'm gonna fuck if i want to party i'm
gonna drink and these fucking right-wing people from alabama they're trying to throw jesus down
my throat and trying to push you know push their family values and but I swear, now, dude, I'm not Republican. I'm not claiming Republican at all or anything,
but I get it now.
I get it.
Because I have a kid,
and there's no way anybody is going to convince me
that because some fucking kid with pink hair
all looped up on pharmaceuticals
shoots up a mall,
that it makes sense that I give up my guns and I can't protect my family.
These are long – we're going to get into the weeds.
Explain that to me.
We're going to get in the weeds and we branch off into all these different directions.
But I know what you're saying is as you get older, especially when you have family,
what it's made me is it's made me way more compassionate and way more understanding.
I'm still not great at it i still fuck up sometimes i'm i'm a human you know humans fluctuate we don't we're not a perfect
thing but overlying when my boat writes itself when i figure out where my head is really at my
thought process is always i want things to be better for everybody like i think it's possible that if we
all work together everything could be way smoother there could be less lows and really and highs
there would be some smooth level ground we could help each other the problem is when some people
have nothing and other people have everything and it looks like chaos and then there's a battle
between ideas and then people want you to comply and And there's so much crazy shit that's going on
as you get older.
And like people are looking for control
of something that's ultimately your life,
which is uncontrollable.
Well, what you're saying is 100% correct.
Everything you're saying is right.
The problem in that,
what fucks everything up
is people getting blackmailed
and people being compromised.
And those are the people that are making the laws.
And those laws affect my family.
That's where it gets all fucked up because everything you're saying is right.
But that's not what these people, these certain people, not everybody.
There's a lot of good people in the government, a lot of good people.
And I'm fascinated every day finding out who they are
and then boom you group them all together like those are the good guys those are the bad guys
let's watch and you make your popcorn and you watch the fucking show you know what i mean and
every now and then you say something that because it's affecting my family so anytime someone says
oh there's a school shooting now immediately let's take away the guns. Like, dude, that is the most retarded solution to these mass shootings.
Is take away my right to defend my family against home invasions?
I understand what you're saying.
That's ridiculous.
I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you.
But I understand why they would come to that conclusion, especially if they don't understand what does happen.
especially if they don't understand what does happen if you look at a place like i mean i don't want to say hong kong should have guns because if then they did they would throw away their
tyrannical rulers they wouldn't have to just protest in the streets in mass with hundreds
of thousands of people for months and months at a time i'm not saying that they should be out
shooting people but you you've seen those videos in hong kong where the police are shooting
protesters that's what i'm talking about this is man. But this is the other side of the coin.
That's a different level.
The thing about school shootings and protests and tyrannical governments is that humans are messy.
There's no clear, simple answer.
It's like, look, if you have a small fire in front of you and you have a bucket of water and you want to put out that fire, there a very very easy to get to answer it's right there
it's a bucket you throw the bucket of water on the fire it puts the fire out no one would argue that
the problem with all these really subtle nuanced complicated super complex problems is there isn't
one answer to it there's a but like, the issue of gun violence.
You know, I had a tweet that I put out,
it was probably, like, my most liked tweet ever,
that I said that, what was the exact tweet?
What did I say about gun control?
We have a mental health issue described,
disguised as a gun control issue and tyranny described
disguised as uh as government i forget how i said it but the point being that this is a mental
health issue it's not an issue of of guns as much as people the country has a mental health problem
disguised a gun problem and a tyranny problem disguised a security problem well everything you're saying is correct but the
problem is it's not about uh getting it's not about doing the right thing to these these people
that are in positions to make these laws they they're they are using these events to push their
gun confiscation laws.
They are. That's what's going on.
Because they think that's the solution.
You're talking common sense.
You're talking common sense.
But it's not common sense with these people.
These people are just like,
ooh, we could use that.
Boom, push another executive order.
Boom, little by little, inch by inch,
we're going to take their fucking guns away.
You had a guy on just the other day,
Ed Calderon.
I took a little,
like one minute little piece of your podcast, and I put it on my social other day, Ed Calderon. I took a little, like one minute, little piece of your
podcast and I put it on my social media today, this morning. And it was him saying, I love this
country. I'm new to this country, but there's a, there's a couple of things where I see it headed
that I'm not into. And you were like, what, like what, like what? And he goes, well, I left my
country because I didn't have the right to protect myself from the bad guys. It was the government
and the criminals.
You know, now here, you guys got that right.
And now you guys, it's like being threatened.
He goes, that's not good.
Coming from where I came from, trust me, you want to be able to protect your family.
It just all comes down to that.
Give me a reason.
Explain to me how giving up my guns makes sense in protecting my family if you give me a good reason then i'll
give them up i haven't heard a good reason yet well it's a plea to emotions because the reality
is when you look at the number of guns versus the number of incidents i don't i don't want to
diminish anybody's death or anybody's family member's death but the number of guns in this
country is fucking staggering when you compare
it to the number of actual gun violence incidents or mass shooting incidents it's relatively small
and then the problem is when you compare the number of those people who are mass shooters
you look at that number versus what percentage of them were on drugs psychiatric drugs and it's
fucking gigantic yeah i don't say that that's the cause yeah i'm not
saying that's the cause but if there's one correlation that we all need to look at that's
one of them man yeah as much as guns the way i look at it is like to me all that matters is my
son and my wife i don't care what happens at that school or that mall or that school or that mall
or that school or that mall all i school or that mall. All I know is
I want to protect my family.
I know you do.
I'm going to protect them.
But you care about your community.
That's it.
You care about your friends.
You care about a lot of people.
This is that thing
that people get to
when they get real defensive
and scared,
when they're really worried
about the outside world.
They say,
it's just about us.
It's about us.
It's about us.
I just want to protect my family.
I understand you do,
but we shouldn't even have, there shouldn't be a concern.
And I think if everybody lived in harmony, there'd be way less of a concern.
You're talking about some utopia that it's too late to achieve this gun-free utopia.
That's enough.
I'm not talking about gun-free utopia.
I would never say that.
Okay.
I mean community.
That's what it sounded like you were saying.
No, I'm the opposite.
I think that a well-armed society is a polite society.
Yeah, like Texas.
I really do believe that.
Texas is one of my favorite places to go.
And it's an interesting experiment.
I'm not saying no.
You see that church incident?
That church incident?
Yes, where a guy pulls out a gun.
Everyone comes out,
the old lady came out and said,
what?
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm talking about.
You remember my bit that I used to have
about the Draw Muhammad contest
that they did in Texas?
Mm-mm.
There's a Charlie Hebdo, you know the magazine? Charlie Hebdo is the draw Muhammad contest that they did in Texas there's a Charlie
Hebdo you know the magazine Charlie Hebdo is this magazine in Paris and they did a cartoon about
Muhammad you're not supposed to draw Muhammad well they killed everyone that worked there they killed
like nine people they killed police officer it was a really big issue huge international issue
everybody was in terrified everybody's like fuck did that have something to do with South Park
listen listen no no the New York Times wouldn't draw the pictures.
They wouldn't print the pictures.
Los Angeles Times wouldn't print the pictures.
Washington Post wouldn't print the pictures.
No one was doing anything.
Then Texas got into the mix, and they decided to have a draw Muhammad contest.
Oh, shit.
Instantly.
Within minutes, a dude showed up with his friend, and they started shooting at the building.
They were killed almost instantly. And I'm like, why? Within minutes, a dude showed up with his friend, and they started shooting at the building.
They were killed almost instantly.
And I'm like, why?
Because they were doing a draw Muhammad contest in Texas.
I'm like, did you pay attention to anything about Texas?
And then I get this whole bit about how that's the place where they're – you know that bit about more tigers in captivity in Texas than in all the wild of the world?
What's the bit?
This sounds familiar. This is from Tr is from triggered from my 2016 special but there's more tigers in captivity in texas than all of the wild of the
world that's how crazy texas is texas is wild west people who just said we're good right here
when they just stopped all those kit carson type dudes from the fucking wild west they just stopped
in texas and they stayed there there's more tigers more tigers in Texas than the whole rest of the planet.
That's insane.
It's insane.
They're in dudes' yards.
That's what's insane.
And I go, it all started with one guy who got a tiger.
And the other guy was like, I didn't know we'd get tigers.
Shit.
And he went and got two tigers.
And the first guy was like, I ain't about to let this faggot out tiger me.
And he opened up Tiger World.
And that's literally what it's like down there.
Dudes have hundreds of tigers in their yard.
That's crazy.
You can have a yard.
And if you have the resources, you can keep those tigers fed.
You can have fences where you have 100 tigers in your yard.
Texas is a different animal, son.
But it's one of the safest places to be.
It is violence in texas just like
there's violence whenever you get large groups of people yeah but i like people in texas they're
friendly dallas i like dallas a lot man they're they're like austin i like you i like everywhere
i go in texas but they're fucking they're they're what i would want america to be like they're
cordial they hold doors for you they say morning. They look you in the eye.
They're smiling.
Texas is not only the best place in the United States for me for jujitsu seminars, but also comedy, too.
Me, too.
Texas is a different animal comedy.
Dude.
A hundred people show up for seminars.
It's insane, man.
I did my first CD in Texas.
Yeah.
At Houston, at the Laugh Stop. Houston is the best place. That's the number one city oh man well dallas and houston well i don't know man
i love austin too dude when there's a crowd when i see a crowd of mexican conspiracy theorists
i'm like oh shit those fucking we're gonna go off those dudes we're gonna go off those dudes come
up to me they try to breach those subjects and i go, hey, stop, stop, stop, stop.
I can't.
I can't do that.
I don't have any-
Eddie's crazy.
Mm-mm.
They don't want to talk.
You should listen to Eddie about the people that make tunnels under the earth.
I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Bro, I got to go home.
I got a yoga class at 830.
I like when people come up to me.
I got people coming up to me, and they're like all alien.
They still think I'm the 2005 dude where I'm all like ball-stepping aliens.
They come in and go, fuck.
You've evolved.
Aliens.
We've evolved from aliens and the split, the whole Anunnaki story.
Man, it's hard for, they're so into it, and it's like, how do I tell this guy that I don't believe in this shit no more?
Sometimes, you know when I had a guy the other night, I was just like, I'm
not even going to say nothing no more.
Because I guess fucking aliens.
Our DNA was split, dude, from the fucking Anunnaki man.
Missing link, bro.
And then boom, we're half monkey.
Do you remember you and me?
Oh, no.
Do you remember you and me in like 2000, hanging out at your fucking guest house?
Yeah, we were all into it.
Doing bong hits and watching documentaries.
Yeah, all that shit.
Nobody, nobody watched.
Maybe there's a lot of ties.
Maybe there's a fucking 100-way tie, 1,000-way tie.
But it's very hard to watch more space documentaries than me and you do.
Come on, dude.
Real space documentaries, too, not just alien ones.
We would just sit there
and there was like 12 parts
to like this BBC universe.
Do you remember that giant alien bong
that I had?
Yeah.
That like yellow fish bong.
Red Band has that thing.
Nobody was into space
and aliens more than us.
No.
You had that fucking Roswell poster
on the newspaper clip.
Still have it.
Still have it. Still have it.
Dude, we were balls deep in that shit.
Let me tell you something, man.
It got fired up again when I watched that Bob Lazar documentary.
Yeah.
When Bob Lazar was saying things in the 1990s that became true in the 2000 teens,
in terms of like Element 115, that they had this thing that they could propel these spaceships with
and they were saying
there's no such thing
he's like there's a thing
they have it
it's from another planet
he explained the propulsion system
he explained all this stuff
it sounds like such nonsense
I believe Bob Lazar
believes all that shit
I believe he does
but you don't believe it's true
I believe he's set up
they let him talk too much
like how are they going to
let him do Netflix
and they're going to come on JRE
they're going to let him do go on they're going to come on JRE? They're going to let him go on Larry King.
Again, Eddie Bravo with the 3D chest.
They want him to do that.
If you're on Netflix,
the deep state wants you on Netflix.
So it's a good thing to...
I think he believes it.
Just like William Cooper.
I think he figured out he got set up.
They were trying to get him to believe that alien spacecraft were recovered and all that.
Because his job at the Office of Naval Intelligence, William Cooper, he wrote Behold the Pale Horse.
He wrote that book.
He's probably considered the Helio Gracie of conspiracy theories, William Cooper he was in charge of putting together the documents for these
top-secret naval office of Naval Intelligence meetings and he was reading
him and gone wasn't he killed in a shootout they shot his ass dude but he
was killing a shootout like in front of his house he was talking too much he
predicted Osama bin Laden before 9-11 I don't know if you know this there's
video on YouTube you can watch. It's William Cooper.
But you know he also talked about bases on the moon,
where aliens had bases on the moon. He evolved.
You've got to follow the timeline.
Sort of like you're not into aliens anymore, and now...
No, no.
He's a big part of it.
He's a big part of it.
Of what?
He's a big part of me going, oh.
Because he is the one who opened my eyes to the fact that he thought he was
being set up into he thought they're trying to get us to believe in aliens so they could fake an
alien attack so that'll usher in the new world order because what happens if the aliens attack
we all unite and all the movies you see them in the movies like oh they're attacking let's call china china's got this new thing and the russia and then we're all together we all
unite that's the whole purpose of everything it's always been about everything there's so many
pieces how do we get to that but wait a minute who's the master fucking puppeteer that's a long
story man i would need an hour to explain all that that's too long that's too long that's too long that's too long
but William Cooper
he was the guy
who he was
like aliens exist
I'm looking at these documents
they're having these meetings
about these crashed
alien aircraft
so he's out
he's got his own
little private radio
and like
or not private radio
but I don't like
in the late 80s
early 90s
he's on radio
whatever like before way before oh yeah some sorts early 90s he's on radio whatever
like before the way before the oh yeah some sort of show and then he's like oh these motherfuckers
are setting me up there's this is all bullshit he goes they they're setting up a fake alien
invasion that's what they're doing okay that's that's uh you know who i've been trying to get
on the podcast recently yes esther Esther Hicks. Really? Yeah.
She's still alive?
Yeah, still alive, not interested.
Her husband passed, I believe.
I'm sorry if that's incorrect.
She's that lady that channels that.
Dude, I used to be way into her.
Yeah.
I was into her. Here's the thing about someone like that.
It's almost like the universe is throwing you a puzzle.
Like you can extract valuable information out of this puzzle,
but you got to understand what's edible and what's not.
When you eat a coconut, you don't eat the outside.
You eat the inside.
The inside has that beautiful white meat,
and it also has that delicious coconut milk.
Those things are good.
The outside you can't eat.
There's a lot of people that will tell you things,
and some of those things seem like bullshit.
But inside those things is some undeniable truths
about how we should live our lives
and how we should view the world
and how we can sort of unite each other
with love and understanding
and we can connect in a way.
It's like a murder mystery,
trying to figure out life. Right, but it is like a murder mystery. It's like a murder mystery, trying to figure out life.
Right, but it is like a murder mystery.
It's probably more complicated because it's never over.
Murder mysteries haven't ended.
As long as there is life, there's more complexity.
Most people, man, I know some people, they're so happy.
The last thing on their mind is trying to figure out what the fuck this is all about.
They're just living their life, and it's all about their family,
and they don't give a shit about Iran
They don't give a fuck about NASA. They're just living their life and man. I envy that shit
I am I'm trying to move closer to that. I envy that shit. Hey, you know what people tell me, you know, like yo
That's all you do is
Study conspiracy theories and I'm like no on the weekends dude on the weekends
I am blue pill in myself on the weekends, dude, on the weekends, I am blue pilling myself.
On the weekends,
baseball with my son,
karate,
we'd go to the fucking
watching the Disney cartoons
with all the space shit in it.
I blue pill
the fuck out of,
I don't try to get my son
into conspiracy theories
at all.
That's gonna be later.
I'm like,
I just want him to,
That's gonna be later.
That's later.
I'll get him when he's like
15,
15, 15. But right now, he can't handle it. There's no way, there's going to be later? That's later. I'll get him when he's like 15, 15, 15.
But right now he can't handle it.
There's no way.
There's no way.
He doesn't need that.
You shouldn't ask him to.
And his whole life, every minute is happiness.
Just love and happiness.
And we just want to make him.
Beautiful.
Every day.
He loves school more than anything.
He loves school more than fucking.
He loves school.
And then after school, it's all about fun. And he decides what we're going to do. He loves school more than anything. He loves school more than fucking, he loves school.
And then after school, it's all about fun.
And he decides what we're going to do.
He calls the shots.
You're going to go to karate?
He goes, today, we're going to do karate.
And then we're going to, because he's all into baseball, too.
And then we're going to go to the batting cages.
I'm like, boom, that's it.
We go to karate, batting cages, then I go teach jujitsu.
Then the next day, he'll say, daddy, I think we're going I think I'm going to take a relaxation day.
Worked a lot the last couple days.
Let's order a pizza from Dino's in Burbank.
Amazing.
And then we'll watch some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
He's all about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
He decides.
And then every day it's a different thing what he wants.
Let's go to the movies today after school. Well, this is an evolution of you learning from the pain of your childhood and doing all the right things.
I do the opposite with my son.
That's amazing.
My dad had 19 kids, and I was just one kid with my mom.
It was like a weird off-site.
He had a family with five kids, and then he got a bunch of other women pregnant.
He was all over the place.
Truck driver.
He had 19 kids. I was one of 19 yet out of eight different chicks he was banging and he um never
i found out i met i met a couple of my half brothers and half sisters that were were actually
part of his real family and we met one day we went to the old spaghetti factory in in hollywood and
he told they told me all about him and i didn't know. I thought he had five kids. He had a family with five
kids and my mom was some chick
he was seeing on the side. That's what I thought.
I didn't know he had a bunch of others.
She goes,
my half sister goes,
half sister, half brother. He goes, how many
kids do you think your dad has?
I said, six.
Try 19. I'm like, damn!
He's like Helio Gracie.
Holy shit.
Real similar.
And one thing that he never told any,
he never said the words I love you to anybody,
to his like real family.
He never said it to me
because I would see him like once a year.
The words never came out of his mouth.
I never told my mom that.
Apparently, he's one of those guys
that will never say I love you to anybody.
And I'm the opposite, opposite dude i tell my son
i look him in the eye every day it's like you know who loves you the most you know i'm the one i love
you the most you're the more and i whisper in his ear i'm like you know i'll kill anybody for you
don't you ever forget that whoa you're getting crazy oh i get crazy with them every day but it
is important. Yeah.
People know that you love them. And then it's a funny thing.
Now it's a funny thing.
Like first he's like,
okay,
dad.
And now he goes,
I'm not going to let you forget.
Daddy,
I won't forget.
I go,
you promise?
Cause I won't forget.
I go,
I just want to make sure you don't forget.
And he goes,
okay.
And he goes,
I daddy,
I won't forget.
I promise.
And I hug him every day.
It's beautiful,
man.
You know, you, you know you've really embraced
to being a dad
it's all that matters man
I'm living for him
that's why I shave my head
I'm like
what the fuck am I doing
washing my hair
you know what I mean
I don't matter no more
I've been telling you
for a long time
let me shave my head
if I didn't have
this big stupid
hair transplant scar
on the back of my head
I would have shaved my head
a long time ago
but I just decided
this is so pointless
it looks terrible I keep paying to get haircuts they always look like shit everybody online in the back of my head. I would have shaved my head a long time ago. But I just decided, like, this is so pointless.
It looks terrible.
Yeah. I keep paying to get haircuts.
They always look like shit.
Everybody online is calling me,
like, telling me
I'm turning Joe Rogan now.
Who cares?
Everybody.
You gotta stop reading comments.
I love those comments.
I love them.
Anybody talk, like, stupid shit,
like it's obvious that,
like, they hate me,
I do them a favor and I decide to to save their life and i just block them because i'm like that much hate dude you're gonna
get fucking cancer following me bro you know i need to block you and save your life well there's
just a lot of people that want attention they're not getting it at home much like you or me look
did i could i like to save them that's a thing, but I could have easily been a hater
if I was 15 and I had an internet account.
Yeah.
I could have easily been a mean kid.
It's crazy.
Another internet dude.
Anybody could come out and just fucking say whatever.
But I'm saying if I was a 15-year-old kid and I could comment to you
and you made me feel jealous and I didn't have any love at home
and I saw you doing all these jujitsu videos,
I would go go fuck that guy
That guy sucks, you know, how about Leo Vera? I would just send you some mean shit
I would send you some mean shit. Yeah, just as a 15 year old piece of shit
Yeah, but that's just because you're a 15 year and because you're not really talking
It's a bad way to talk to people man through text messages and shit. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
We're supposed to look at each other. When people say things that translate into positivity
and it's obvious they're on the same frequency as me,
I follow every one of those dudes.
Anybody comment something that says genuinely
they agree with what I'm saying and they're on my team,
I'm like, you're on my motherfucking team.
If someone says anything, if they criticize me, I won't block them. I'm like, if it's legit, I'm like, you're on my motherfucking team. If someone says anything,
if they criticize me, I won't block them.
I'm like, if it's legit, I'm like, I get that.
I get that.
But if it's clear that you're a hater,
I'm like, dude, let me save your life.
Let me block you.
Let me put a couple years on that life.
I don't let any of those.
As soon as you expose yourself,
I'm like, dude, you should not be following me.
There's a bunch of other people you could be following, dude.
It's obvious you don't like me.
Find someone else.
Well, there's two schools of thought, right?
There's a school of thought you should let everybody in.
And the other school of thought is that it's like a party.
Like if you had a party and one dude is an asshole, it's ruining the party.
Kick him out.
Kick him out of the party.
Kick him the fuck out.
This is my party. Yeah. is ruling the party. Kick him out. Kick him out of the party. I'll kick him the fuck out. This is my party.
Yeah, it's your party.
Yeah.
I think that...
You want to criticize me intelligently?
I never block those people, ever.
I would feel like a douchebag.
I wouldn't do that.
If you criticize me
but you're being intelligent about it
and you're not being a dick about it,
I'm like, okay,
let people argue about that.
Okay, let them, whatever.
But if you come out and say, you fucking piece of shit, you're a retard, I'm like, dude, let people argue about that. Okay, let them, whatever. But if you come out and say, you fucking piece of shit, you're a retard.
I'm like, dude, let me save your life.
That's some ozone therapy.
I did some ozone therapy.
You know what that is?
Yeah.
Was it good?
You know what?
This is what happened.
I did, when I went down there to mexico i went down there for five days
and the i didn't do stem cells till the third day it's like you had to prep yourself for the
stem cells we didn't just juicing the gerson diet is like dude it's uh what is the gerson gerson
gerson it's the gerson therapy it's what saved javi vasquez man javi vasquez had colon cancer and he did the gerson
diet gerson therapy how does it work you juice you have to take fresh juices like there's certain
plant juices you have to make them yet and have to be fresh and you you do one like every hour
and you do a coffee enema like five times a day yeah soikes. So juicing, coffee enema. Did you read? Coffee enema.
Dude, I coffee enema, dude.
Ooh.
Juicing, coffee enema.
All day?
No, not like someone with cancer would do.
Someone with cancer, you got, there's a, for, dude, for three months, dude, every day,
you're juicing coffee enema.
You're just cleaning out something about the-
Does it work?
Hell yeah.
Really?
Javi Vasquez is cancer free.
And it was from the juicing? It was from the Gerson therapy. Does it work? Hell yeah. Javi Vasquez is cancer free.
And it was from the juicing?
It was from the Gerson therapy.
And so is that all he's doing for nutrients is just juicing and then coffee animals? Who knows?
I don't know.
I don't know the details.
This is what Javi tells me.
That's part of it.
Part of it is juicing and coffee animals.
Javi's school is thriving.
He's teaching jujitsu.
He tells me he beat it.
I don't know the facts.
I just go by what he tells me. I see him on Instagram. He's teaching jujitsu. He told me he did it um you know i don't know the the facts i just go by what he tells me i see him on instagram he's teaching jujitsu he told me he did the gerson therapy he told me what it was
about and when i went to mexico that's what that's one of the things they do because this is the
weird thing is i went down to a cancer alternative hospital down in in mexico called chipsa and
people thought i had cancer. I didn't realize.
Because I know the owners.
I know Ed Clay and Scotty Nelson.
They thought you had cancer
because you were there.
And the only reason I went down there
was for the stem cells.
Right.
Because in Mexico,
it's in Tijuana,
they can do anything.
So not only is Ed Clay and Scotty Nelson,
they just committed their lives
to putting all the best
anti-cancer treatments together.
The Gerson therapy is one of many things.
They do a bunch of alternative.
People come down there with third stage,
fourth stage, or whatever they got,
and this is like the last hurrah.
So they hit them with the Gerson therapy.
They hit them with the NADH.
Have you heard about this?
NADH.
They hit them with hyperbaric chambers every day,
electromagnetic fucking therapy.
There's all this shit there.
They got different things on IVs.
And so I went down there and I didn't realize that people were going to think I had cancer.
So is this really beneficial to people that have cancer?
What exactly?
There's so many therapies.
All those different treatments?
You're saying they hit them with all the, I'm assuming you hit them with like a pile of them all together.
Yeah.
They got a system down there, man.
And they don't make any claims, man.
There's no claims being made.
They just do their best.
Well, you can't make claims.
You can't make claims.
But they got, what Chipsa is all about is all the latest.
Ed Clay is, I met him when he was 19 and I was 30.
And I knew, I knew when I met Ed Clay, I'm like when he was 19 and I was 30 and I knew I knew when I met
Ed Clay
I'm like dude
you're 19
you sound like you're 45
I'm like
smart dude
always been
dude I'm like
what are you doing
in this 19 year old body
I go one day
you're gonna be a
a business tycoon
of some sort
you're gonna be huge
and so he dedicated his life
his story was
he got addicted to
pills he got addicted to
viking and he was a black belt bjj black belt that's how i know him through the martial arts
world he owned his own mixed martial arts gym nashville mma he and then he had a couple mma
fights and then he got he got hurt had some surgery got addicted to pills and he had a real
bad addiction and it was fucking
him up. And then he heard about Ibogaine and Ibogaine is like the African version of ayahuasca.
And supposedly, I don't know that much about it, but supposedly you go through an Ibogaine trip
and it resets your brain in some way. I don't know that you don't, you could quit those pills
without going through all the withdrawals and the pain.
You just got to go through it for 36 hours or something like that.
You do Ibogaine.
And he found out about this.
And he went down to Mexico and did it.
And it cured him of his fucking pill addiction.
It really worked.
So at first, he sold his MMA gym.
He goes, I'm going to put.
And he was like a real estate mogul, too.
Super smart guy.
He was all into real estate and everything.
He was well off, sold his MMA.
He was growing beyond an MMA gym really.
He was just growing beyond that.
And then he decided to open up an Ibogaine hospital in Mexico to help as many people as he could to get over their pill addictions. He was like, I'm just going to dedicate my life to saving people.
And then a lot of stuff happened.
It's a long story.
But he ended up going, you know what?
Let's save people.
Let's save people.
Let's try to help people with cancer.
So it all led to like the what's the everyone's worst fear is getting cancer.
Yeah, I didn't know he was doing that until I talked to you because we've talked about him many times in the podcast.
That whole Ibogaine retreat.
And then I think that people are having an issue with
various addictions there's a lot of a lot of a lot of weird problems with going straight he just
went from let's save people from pill addiction to let's save people from cancer so him and uh
scotty nelson who used to own on the mat otm they got together and they put all their money together and bought this hospital in Tijuana.
That is so crazy. They bought a hospital.
Dude, they bought a...
I'm there all week and we're sitting in the...
He's running everything like El Patron.
But you know how crazy that is?
He owns a hospital.
He's got scientists all around him
and they're all about finding
the best shit. They're just looking for the best shit.
Let me ask you this.
What can they do in comparison to what they can do in Panama?
Could they do the same kind of shit as Dr. Neil Reardon?
No, no, it's the same thing.
And they just do it in Tijuana.
That Reardon, one of his partners is one of the guys that went to CHPSA.
So that's why they're doing STEM.
They're doing the same thing, but they even admit the dude in Panama is like the godfather of everything.
But the way they're doing it at CHPSA, like CHPSA, it's a cancer alternative hospital.
But the only reason, you know, they're using stem cells too for some treatments.
So you don't have to have cancer to go there.
I get people sending me shit like, dude, heal up, bro.
I'm with you.
And I'm like, dude, I don't have cancer.
And then I shaved my head.
Oh, my God.
Dude, I went to CHPSA and then i shaved my head oh my god dude i went to
chips on then i shaved my head everyone thinks i'm dying so i'm not dying guys i just i went to
chips to get stem cells because my body is broken as fuck i'm 50 years old and my knee my shoulder
my back they're fucked up and i was getting to the point, I started rolling. I was rolling this whole year.
Rolling with little guys, little blue belts, little purple belts.
And then I started working up with the bigger guys.
And I was like, fuck it, let's just see what happens.
Boom.
And then my shoulder gets fucked up again.
And I'm like, you know what?
Yeah, I got fucked up again.
And then I, and at that point, Ed Clay and Scotty were saying,
dude, come down to the hospital.
We'll get you on these stem cells. Dude, we're gonna we're gonna repair all that shit come on man come
on down come on down and i'm like i don't know if that's gonna work can i ask you this did you get
an mri on your shoulder because you had shoulder surgery yes and then you hurt it again yeah but
i didn't get an mri no well i just felt like i strained it i'm like is it did i strain it or did
i fuck it that fuck the surgery up?
That was the thought.
That's the question.
How many months after the surgery were you rolling?
About a year.
I waited a year.
Oh, that's not that.
Yeah, I waited about a year.
That's not unreasonable.
Okay, no, maybe six months.
I'm sorry, not a year.
I thought about it.
I think they told me a year, but I waited six months.
I was going with little people.
But it's no big deal.
I think they told me a year, but I waited six months. I was going with little people.
But it's no big deal.
So Ed was always telling me to come down,
and I just kept putting it off.
And then finally, after I re-injured my shoulder,
I'm like, you know what?
What the fuck am I doing, dude?
I got to do these stems.
I got to do the best thing that's out there,
and if it doesn't work, you know what?
At least I tried.
I got to do the best shit. So I called up Ed, you know what, at least I tried. I gotta do the best shit
so I called up Ed
and I go,
let's set it up
so we found a week
where we could both,
we did it together.
Me and Ed,
he goes,
we're gonna do this shit,
everything we did,
he was right there with me
and did it with me.
That's awesome.
He's one of the greatest guys
I've ever met in my life, man.
Well, I hope it works.
You know,
it'd be an interesting alternative.
I gotta wait a couple,
I will tell you this, that I didn't start the stems until the third day and the first couple days we were doing
nadh we're doing all this stuff and immediately my inflammation and my knees was gone immediately
like from all the stuff we were doing the ozone therapy the hyperbaric chamber we were doing this
electron all day i was there like eight hours doing shit every day. So you said your inflammation
like your knees, like what did they feel like before?
Oh, my knees are fucked up. My good knee
not the, my surgery knee is not
my good rubber guard knee. My surgery knee, thank God
it's not my rubber guard knee, but it still hasn't
healed. It cut out so much meniscus. It's
fucking sore and tender. It just won't heal.
How bad was the tear before you got it fixed?
Dude, it locked on me about
ten times before I got a surgery.
So every time it locks, it rips it up some more.
It was a mess.
So they took out most of my meniscus.
And so it still hasn't healed.
And then my good knee, something happened in leg lock drills.
I don't know.
Something happened where I think I sprained it.
So I'm like, okay, I got to stop.
But then at the same time, my shoulder got fucked up.
So like all of a sudden, my whole body is fucked up.
It's hard to get out of bed.
And then I called Ed, and I'm like, dude, let's just do this.
Let's go through it.
Let's do this.
So they injected my shoulder with, like, apparently, I don't know the technical term for these stem cells,
but they were umbilical cord, organic.
I don't know.
I just said, just give me your best shit.
They stuck my shoulder.
They stuck my knee.
And then I put it in.
We got stem cells.
This is what everybody says about you.
In the IV.
This is what everybody says about you.
Yeah.
You don't wait long enough.
Everybody says you dive right back into rolling too quick.
And then you got to give yourself more rehab time.
Who told you that?
A couple people. Who told you that? A couple people.
Who told you that?
A few people talking.
They're worried that you're addicted to rolling,
which everybody is, right?
And when you're coming back from an injury,
how much weightlifting stuff did you do?
I was doing weightlifting too.
You and the physical therapist that gave you the routine?
I got fucking savages trying to take my head off.
Oh, I understand.
You know what I mean?
What they're saying is that you- I went too hard. head off. Oh, I understand. You know what I mean? But what they're saying
is that you...
I went too hard.
I did.
Yeah.
Now I know that.
So I wanted to test myself.
So now this is the plan.
The plan is
I'm going to wait a couple
because the stem cells
that take supposedly
they take
because I took them
through the IV too.
We did them double.
We shot them
with a fucking million
fucking gazillion
and then put them
in an IV.
I did the whole fucking thing.
Hyperbaric chamber every day.
Watching Fight Club on DVD.
All that shit, dude.
Every day.
Dude, all day.
I was doing the shit.
I go, I have to go through this.
This is, I'm getting old.
I got 115 schools that depend on me.
I got to do this shit.
So now I'm just waiting.
It's been less than a month since i since i did and it's supposedly you're not supposed to it takes a while for stem
cells to regrow shit uh two to three months or something like that so i ain't gonna do shit for
two to three months because if i start rolling now well you know john donahurt doesn't roll right
yeah he hurt his hip or something he's he's had hip replacement he's gonna have a knee replacement
his body's all fucked we're all headed there headed there. We're all going to end up
being there. You can't roll forever.
No. I heard Hickson's rolling
again.
That's what I heard. Jean-Jacques told me that.
You know what it is? It's like...
Can't leave it alone.
It just feels so good.
I appreciate it so much now. This is the weird thing.
This is the weird thing. When I started
rolling again this year,
more than ever while I roll,
more than ever,
anytime I pull off a little sweep
or a little cool transition,
I'll always say,
yes, sir.
Loud.
Enjoy it.
Loud.
I'm constantly saying,
boy, yes, sir.
Because I appreciate the little move.
If I butterfly sweep a motherfucker
and I pass his guard at the same time,
I'm going to say isso.
For sure.
I'm like, I appreciate every little transition
and then I remember every little transition.
I'm like, I got to teach this.
I got to teach that.
Oh, I forgot about that.
There's just so much.
It's so endless that unless you're rolling you'll forget that's what i'm afraid of i'm afraid of stop like stop rolling
and then i forget certain transitions because there's so much the best thing you could do
the best thing now i know on my deathbed record as many of your roles as fucking possible really record your roles watch them watch your
decision making watch your mistakes man and then you remember shit you got to record as many roles
as possible that's that's all i'm gonna so it's like comedy yes exactly dude the only reason i
record every one of my sets is because of you that's the only reason because you always say
you got to record your sets you got to record your sets so my rituals is because of you. That's the only reason. Because you always say you got to record your sets.
You got to record your sets.
So my rituals is on my way to my next set is I'm listening to the last set on the drive over.
You know what I mean?
And there's so many times I'll go back to listen to old sets.
Like there's some shit that I don't even remember saying and I would have never remembered it.
You know what I mean?
There's so much shit.
You're like, damn, there's too much to remember. You know what I mean? There's so much shit. You're like, damn, there's too much to remember.
You know what, man?
The ride home, the ride home,
you have to treat as part of the job.
This is what I've decided.
Do you listen to it on the ride home?
I never done that.
I'm afraid to.
No, this is my new thing.
My new gimmick is the ride home.
I listen to recordings,
maybe take another hit,
depending on whether or not I want to go deep,
and then bust out the laptop so the ride home
I'm listening
and then when I get home
I write
so I'm in a stand up
frame of mind
everybody's asleep
everybody's asleep
so the whole world's asleep
so it's like
one o'clock in the morning
it's just me
just sitting there with the dog
just chilling
just typing
and if I do that every day
and I say this is my job my job is not
just to show the comedy store and do my set my job is to listen to a set on the way there and then
listen to that set on the way home and then sit in front of my laptop for an hour to hour and a half
and i feel like if i do it's not that hard man coal mining is hard. Yeah. You know, sand mining, that shit's hard.
Yeah.
I got to do that.
What I do is- You know what the problem is?
Nobody is your boss.
Yeah.
Nobody tells you what to do.
Yeah.
If you just worked at a warehouse, they go, Eddie, just do whatever you can with all these
packages.
You're like, all right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Versus if you worked for Amazon, they give you a fucking time clock and it's like, ready,
go.
And stopwatch is ticking down.
How many minutes you have left to send this package out?
You're running because you don't want to get reprimanded.
You know, I was telling you about my ritual, right?
My ritual is if I, as I'm driving to my next set or getting ready for my next set, I listen to my old set.
Yes.
And I have it fresh in my head and I go on stage, right?
So what happens is I have a few good sets in a row. Nothing goes bad.
It seems to go good.
People seem to like it. And then I get
fucking lazy. I get lazy.
There was one time where I was going to do that
Bruce Buffer show at
the Laugh Factory. We're going to do a show at the Laugh
Factory. First time I'm ever there.
So I thought, okay, I'm going to drive there
and listen to my last recording like I usually do.
But then I didn't want to.
I go, I want to take an Uber and drink.
You know what I mean?
I got too cocky, dude.
So then I thought, no, no, no.
I got to be strict.
I got it.
No, I can't call an Uber.
I'm going to drive my truck and listen to my goddamn set again.
But then I thought, oh, my God, maybe I'll just put earplugs in and get in the Uber
and just listen to it with my earbuds.
And I'm like, cool, that's what I'll do.
So I call the Uber,
and I usually don't drink at home
before I go to the comedy store because I'm driving.
So I thought, I'm Ubering it.
So I have one drink.
So now I'm one drink in,
and my ritual is one drink at the comedy store, right?
So I get in the Uber store right so i i get in
the uber and immediately when i get in the uber the guy goes first time ever only time ever guy
goes dude are you eddie bravo you're i love jre i listen to you on the podcast all the time so he
just wanted to talk about jre so i never listened to the set so we get to the laugh factor we get
to the laugh factor i'm like i didn't listen to the set i talked to this guy he was cool he was a fucking cool ass guy you know what i'm
not gonna listen to shit i'll be fine right so i get there and then built bruce buffers i got shots
let's take shots tequila everyone and i'm like i'm not i'm not drinking way too much don't have
my set fresh in my head and i went on stage and fucking it wasn't a total disaster but man i
had my family there and everything for the first time i'm like it was not a good set it was a bad
set and i'm like fuck but i learned from that you learn from them losses i'm like don't ever get
lazy because when you have that set fresh in your mind and then you go on stage it ain't that hard
you just heard that motherfucker
you know what i mean well it's not just that for me it's writing things down like cue cards are big
i use index cards damn sharpies before my sets in my rider okay i do a show i'll write just
bullet points just titles of bits shit like that yeah yeah and then uh another thing that works is
like during the day of a show i'll sit in front of the computer and just rewrite bits.
Just write them out.
Write them out.
Write them out.
It's like it's not necessary and you can get away without doing it.
But I always feel like the more I do, the better.
The more prepared you are.
For sure.
It's better.
It's just like when I would do the opening monologues for like EBI countdown shows.
I used to do that.
I don't do it anymore.
Always, always, you write it all out.
The first three takes ain't that good.
You don't remember.
But by the fourth and fifth take, you can see it.
It's like there's a teleprompter in front of you.
You've done it so much.
And then now you could really nail it.
Just like Jiu-Jitsu.
It's the same thing.
Just like Jiu-Jitsu.
You have a certain pass that you just nail.
You get that pass.
You got to do it over and over.
But you know those grooves that you catch in
when you are in that path
that you've been through a thousand times?
Yeah.
Just like comedy.
Just like everything else.
Just like a monologue.
Just like acting in a movie.
Dude, if it wasn't for Jiu-Jitsu,
I wouldn't be doing comedy, man.
Jiu-Jitsu trained me.
Well, Jiu-Jitsu taught you also how to
teach so you talk to people like you have this way of projecting public speaking experience is huge
i i got a couple uh instructors that are looking to do and looking to do comedy too yeah because
if you could if you could teach a seminar you could teach a three-hour seminar you have the
tools to be a stand-up comedian you now you got to be funny well listen this is the thing about
stand-up comedians only 30 of them ever be funny. Well, listen, this is the thing about stand-up comedians. Only 30% of them ever
even try it. Yeah.
It's probably 70% of the
potential legitimate stand-up comedians
in the country that don't ever do it.
Yeah. You know, there's people that do it
and they're delusional and they do it and they don't
see reality correctly.
So they'll never really be good.
There's people like that. Yeah. But then there's
people that just decide to keep working at the car repair place.
And they're funny as fuck.
And they're funny as fuck.
Yeah.
I know I've told you about this guy,
but when I was an amateur comedian,
when I was driving for a private investigator,
I met this private investigator.
It was like, be a private investigator's assistant.
I was like, oh, cool.
Really, he became a very good friend of mine he
lost his license drinking and driving so he needed someone to drive him around so
that was a private investigators assistant I was just his driver but his
name was Dave Dolan I loved him to the day he died but he he needed someone to
drive him to places and he also was it turns out just randomly, he was a cousin to one of the people who owned the Comedy Connection in Boston, Bill Downs.
He was Bill Downs' cousin.
So I met him and I was like, what?
You're Bill's cousin?
He's like, yeah, he's my fucking cousin.
He was the funny, one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life.
And at the time, for sure, the funniest people i've ever met in my life and at the time
for sure the funniest guy i had ever met and i was like how is this guy not a comedian this
doesn't even make sense dude we would go places and we would have to like get up at four o'clock
in the morning i would pick him up and then we drive to like some location we have to park on
the corner to see if some guy who's uh pretending to be injured is going to work under the table in another way
like we have to take pictures of him and shit that kind of stuff was mostly insurance scams
so i'd be sitting on the side of the road with this guy and he would be just talking shit just
talking shit about life and about girls and about fucking everything from top to bottom he was doing
a he was doing a one-man show for me. And I'm a professional.
Not really at the time.
I was an amateur.
And I don't think I'd ever even gotten paid.
But I was an aspiring comedian.
And I'm sitting there with this guy in a car.
I'm like, this is the funniest fucking dude I've ever talked to in my life.
I'm nothing compared to him.
He's so much funnier than me.
And he never wanted to do comedy.
Even while my comedy was taking off, he never wanted to do comedy.
I'm like, Dave, you can do comedy.
He's like, fuck that i bust scumbags all he wanted he was just a private investigator busting scumbags and now like i don't know if it's the economy or what but it's it's like this
in jujitsu comedy and jujitsu have one thing in common it seems like economically it's bigger than it's ever been because back like 10 15 years ago
i remember thinking to myself like damn there ain't that many motherfuckers out there they could
they could teach seminars and make some big money i was like fuck there ain't that many it's
and now shit seminars in jujitsu are every everybody's touring it's insane it's like
touring everybody exactly like comedians everybody's
touring everyone's got their specials yes dude it's amazing economy is insane it wasn't like
this 10 years ago because i remember like not even 10 years ago my business manager said uh
you gotta slow down with your money because you're running out of money. Like 10, 8 years ago. It wasn't always good.
But right now, man, everybody in my association, it seems like I would say 90%.
Everybody's growing.
Constantly growing.
Growing.
Growing.
I think the word has gotten out about the benefits of jiu-jitsu.
There's so many people that have Instagram pages.
So many people make YouTube videos.
That and the economy.
The economy is booming.
Yeah.
Podcasts.
Yeah.
People talk about jiu-jitsu a lot.
You get to see way more videos of jiu-jitsu
on Instagram or YouTube or whatever.
I mean, this is a good time for...
And also, like,
there's so many dominant players in grappling today,
from Craig Jones, you know, to...
It's a different world now.
Ryan Gordon, you know,
and Eddie Tonin is now...
Eddie Tonin? Eddie Tonin is now- Eddie Tonin?
Eddie Tonin and Eddie Cummins.
Eddie's now running his own school, and Gary's fighting in MMA.
Some of these super high-level, high-profile guys now have large social media followings.
Gary Tonin, he's a funny Twitter follow.
He says funny shit.
Like he's a smart dude.
And he's doing really well in MMA.
And you're like, hey, that guy's got nasty, nasty grappling.
Like do you see that flying scissor hook he hit in Abu Dhabi?
Yeah.
Flying heel hook, scissor takedown.
He's a legit world-class submission artist that's now fighting in MMA.
Look what's happening in Abu Dhabi.
Look at all the rising stars, the hottest stars.
They're all no-gi guys.
Craig Jones, Lachlan Giles, John Blank, Gio Martinez, Gordon Ryan, Gary Tonin.
All of them, all no-gi guys. They're not doing anything in the gi. They're not competing in the gi of them all no-gi guys
they're not doing
anything in the gi
they're not competing
in the gi
they're no-gi guys
so you're starting
to see right now
that it's getting
the sport is getting
so technical
and so specialized
that if you want
to be the best
in the gi
you got to spend
all your time
in the gi
you want to be
the best no-gi
you got to spend
all your time
no-gi
it's hard to do both
doing both man it's tough.
Like Gordon Ryan's not trying to compete in the gi.
No.
Because he knows.
He realizes like, damn, that's another lifetime.
I think that there's got to be some way where we can wake people up to how fun that shit is to watch.
You know what I mean?
Combat jiu-jitsu goes a long way.
Your concept, because people get to see
people get bitch slapped.
People love people
getting bitch slapped.
But I think that,
I think they're missing something.
Well, no, no.
I think we already have it.
We have it.
We have combat jiu-jitsu.
That's the best shit.
And then we also have quintet.
Quintet is the best way
to make jiu-jitsu a team sport. Quintet is the best way to make jujitsu a team sport.
Quintet is awesome.
It's awesome.
What I'm talking about is they're missing something that makes it mainstream.
All it is, remember UFC?
We all knew in the UFC when it was underground,
we all knew that it was the greatest sport ever.
We all knew that, but the world didn't know that.
And what happened to awaken the world was't know that and and what what happened uh to to awaken the world was the
ultimate fighter with forrest griffin and uh stephen stephen bonner right that's the one that
blew everybody knows that's part of history you could put that in that ufc documentary
that show blew up mma blew up the ufc and it wasn't because like all of a sudden the ufc became
more entertaining after
that like they figured it out after that it was always the same sport but over here no one knew
about it over here everybody knows about it and they love it there just needed some there just
needed to be something to expose the world to what already existed not like change what already
existed right and it was already perfect just people didn't know about it. Now people know about
it. It's the same thing. Ultimate Fighter,
Forrest Griffin, they blew it up.
When it comes to grappling,
I think it's going to be some... We're going to do
Combat Jiu-Jitsu World's quintet
style. We're going to do both.
We're doing both. Are you going to do tag team?
No. That tag team shit is hilarious.
Do you remember what... You know what quintet is, right?
Yes. Quintet is five against five, right?
And very, it's random who winds up with who.
It's amazing.
In terms of weight classes.
So what I'm going to do is do combat jujitsu.
Five against five.
Oh, no, don't do that.
Bro, the big guys are going to smash the little people.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But we're going to change it.
It's going to be five on five, but it's going to be the featherweights.
Everyone's going to be 145.
Oh, okay. Everybody's going to be the same weight. Good. We're not going to do David and G going to be five on five, but it's going to be the featherweights. Everyone's going to be 145. Everybody's going to be the same weight.
We're not going to do David and Goliath.
Because all that ends up happening there is the small guy tries to survive to get the big guy out.
So that kind of fucks up the strategy of pure jujitsu.
But when everybody's the same weight, there's no reason to take anybody out.
Every fight, you want to beat the guy Not just hold him
Because if I'm going against a guy that's 20 pounds heavier than me
The smart strategy would be
Just don't get tapped and hold on and get him out of there
Right
That fucks up the sport
Did they set it up where the five people have a total weight limit
Yes
So there's all these mismatches
But it's a beautiful thing
I love that too But I'm going to do it different.
A total weight limit?
Yeah, like five people,
850 pounds or something like that.
900 pounds or something like that.
So you got to figure out
what you got to choose,
like all 170 pounders.
It's interesting.
It's pretty badass,
but when it comes to combat jiu-jitsu,
they all got to be this,
we're going to do welterweights five on five.
You have to.
You know, middleweights five on five, but the same thing like if if there's a draw here they both get dq'd
it's going to be the same concept but at the end what's going to be a little different too
is that a lot of times in um in quintet you have like every match is a draw and they all
you know they're it's a tie they're all eliminated at the same time so
then at that point they go to whoever has the most penalty cards and if that's a tie then they go to
a judge's decision and my version we if it goes to a tie then we go uh each team picks the opposing
team's ebi ot competitor and they decide an eBI OT which is basically a rear naked choke
shootout
we do it a little
different
we're keeping that
EBI OT
as a tiebreaker
that's it
not in every match
just at the very end
of it's a tie
we go to EBI OT
I love it
it's a great idea
it's gonna be crazy
yeah
it's gonna be nuts dude
I think grappling
is probably
just even watching
grappling on YouTube.
I mean, many times I look at videos, there's a million views.
Many times.
There's more people watching grappling and paying attention to high-level grappling on YouTube now
than I think any time that I could ever remember.
Yeah, there's so many shows now.
There's Fight to Win.
What's Chael Sutton's one?
Submission Underground.
Submission Underground. Submission Underground. Yeah, and then there's Kasai, and then there's Finishers, which they got a great one.
They got a quintet-style Finishers coming up.
Ultimate Matt Warriors.
It's a good time for combat sports.
Yeah, there's a whole shitload.
Dude, you know what I'm looking forward to as much as anything?
What?
Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury 2.
Oh, shit.
When is that?
That's soon. Soon? A couple soon so i want to say that's
february is that what it is jamie february 22nd february and that's the one where tyson got knocked
down and he rose from the dead yeah and he won or lost well he still was a draw it was a draw
but most people feel like if you look at it objectively there's two ways of looking at it if you look at it objectively tyson fury outboxed him he beat him 10 rounds to two but if you look at it in
terms of like chaos and wildness and what counts more deontay wilder floored him twice at one time
literally you saw his soul pull out of his body then he grabbed his soul by the ankle and dragged it back in.
Tyson Fury just rose like no one expected and fought his way out of a terrible situation
and then dominated the rest of the round.
In my eyes, Tyson Fury won the fight.
But in my eyes, I'm fine with a draw
because Deontay Wilder nuked him into orbit twice.
It was so chaos.
I couldn't say who really won.
I want to watch that shit. And I gave up on
boxing, but I watch the heavyweight division now.
It seems like it's awesome now. Deontay is from
another planet, man. He's got
Thanos' glove in his right hand. How about
Francis Ngannou against him?
Well, I mean, Francis, I think
Francis really legitimately could
be a top-tier heavyweight
because of his power and because of his speed.
His knockout ability is insane.
If he really got into boxing the way he got into MMA,
I think he really could be a top-flight boxer.
But you wouldn't want him just jumping right in with Deontay Wilder.
Deontay Wilder is a bronze medalist in the Olympics, world-class boxer.
I mean, he has an insane record.
The most insane, you know he has the most insane
record in the history of the heavyweight division i think if i'm right pull up deontay wilders
mike tyson oh dude listen way more way craziers it's literally 40 knockouts one draw one decision
wow dude every fight's a knockout he's a fucking monster that is the most he's a Every fight's a knockout. He's a fucking monster. That's the most insane. That is the most insane.
He's a monster.
He's a monster, dude.
He's a monster.
No one hits like him.
It doesn't make any sense.
He hit that last dude, Luis Ortiz, in the forehead, and his body went to it.
Just shut down.
He just bop.
He just catches guys with these punches, and everybody gets flying.
You had him on the show?
He's a great guy.
He was on the show, right?
Yeah, he's a great guy.
You know what he told me?
He told me that when he fought Tyson Fury, he weighed 209 pounds.
I was like, what?
He goes, yeah, I don't know why I was so light.
That's just how heavy I was.
He doesn't try to put on weight because he knows he can nuke people.
And it's all stand-up, right?
So there's probably a benefit of being a 209 pound guy in boxing where there's no there's
no leg kicks it's speed and he has crazy power like his undeniable power but no one could smother
him and drag him to the ground do all kinds of shit that heavy people can do in a fight an mma
fight right now he in boxing i think he might have an advantage i think that yeah at 210 pounds that's probably the max weight for power
like anything extra is going to slow down the power now you're going to slow down the speed
i would agree with you until you get to francis francis hits so much harder than anyone that's
205 pounds dude he hits people so hard francis is a different animal because he hits like a really strong
205 pounder but then you add
60 pounds of muscle on top of that
I know what you're saying but what I'm saying is
once you start sacrificing
speed maybe it's the speed
because he's smaller the speed gets it
through and he's got enough power
maybe not the most power you could have but enough
power to knock people out but he still has the speed and he's got enough power. Maybe not the most power he could have, but enough power to knock people out.
But he still has the speed because he's smaller?
Maybe.
Does that make sense?
I mean, it's a trade-off for sure, but I don't think Francis is slow at all.
See, the thing about a Francis guy is like a thing about Connor in a lot of ways.
What does he walk at?
Francis is giant, man.
He walks at 250?
More than 260.
Oh, okay.
More than 260 walking around and moves very fast.
But those guys that have a lot of, like Connor, fast twitch muscle fiber.
Firas Ahabi talked about it on the podcast.
He was like, those guys, they're sprinters.
They're just jumping and leaping.
And Daniel Cormier always talks about them as big actions.
These big actions they're doing.
They require a lot of energy.
And those guys are rarely the guys who have, like, the most stamina.
But they're the guys who are definitely the most dangerous
for short amounts of time.
And if you saw in the Stipe fight,
Stipe weathered the storm with Francis
and then grabbed a hold of him and managed to wear him out,
start dragging him to the ground, and beat him up on the ground.
That fight showed you what the problems are with that like fucking sprinting style like you you
gotta fight every fight like you know this guy can definitely make it to the fifth round yeah
you gotta fight every fight like you're not looking for the knockout but if it's there it's
awesome yeah and if you don't you're never gonna beat the elite for the worst and the elite of the
elite is stipe stipe is the elite of the elite. Prepare for the worst. And the elite of the elite is Stipe.
Stipe is the elite of the elite.
He's the guy who's regained the heavyweight title.
He's defended it more than anybody ever.
Ever?
Ever.
He's got the record.
Stipe Miocic has defended the UFC heavyweight title more than anyone. How many times is that?
I believe it's four.
I believe he had four successful title defenses.
That's crazy.
Yes. And then loses Daniel Cormier and then comes back and knocks out Daniel Cormier to retain the title.
That's a Muhammad Ali type epic show.
He's epic.
He's epic.
Stipe's epic.
He doesn't get nearly enough love for what he's done, like for martial arts.
It's just he's not as flashy as some guys.
He doesn't talk a lot of shit.
He just puts his nose to the grindstone and gets his work done.
But if you look at his accomplishments, knocked out Alistair Overeem,
knocked out Junior Dos Santos.
I mean, he's a fucking monster, man.
He's a monster, you know?
Knocks out Daniel Cormier to regain his title.
He's a fucking animal.
And the only guy, I mean, Derek Lewis
beat Francis Ngannou, but it was a crazy
fight where really nothing happened. It was a weird fight.
But Stipe
is the first guy to beat him. Stipe
beat him. He got a hold of Francis
and he actually beat him. He's the
only guy. Everybody else is just
running from those hammers, son.
Those hammers coming at you from Francis.
Are you a Stipe fan because he's from Cleveland?
Does that have any bearing?
Sure.
Oh, really?
Okay.
He's the man.
Cleveland people probably don't like Columbus people when they're all in Ohio together.
Why's that?
Once they're outside.
No, no.
Then they become like, okay, we got an Ohio people, we got a six.
It's Ohio, Michigan, not Ohio, Ohio.
More Browns fans in Columbus than Bengals fans, right?
More Bengals fans.
It's very close.
50-50?
Yeah.
Damn.
Okay.
Ohio's an awesome spot, man.
It's a fun spot to go to, too.
It's like a fun spot to do stand-up at.
I'm trying to book some gigs out there.
I'm trying to do a seminar out there.
Do you do seminar and show same weekend?
I try to do a show on Friday night, seminar Saturday morning, and then get the fuck out.
But sometimes when I'll do a show Saturday night, too, it's hard to do a seminar.
Sometimes I can't do it both.
What's the most time you've ever done on stage?
40 minutes.
Damn.
Yeah.
Look at that.
Is that a lot?
It's a good amount.
It's close to headliner.
You know, like it used to be that a headliner had to do 45.
It used to be there was 15 minutes for the opener,
30 minutes for the middle act,
and then 45 minutes for the closer.
That was always the formula.
I like just being that dude opening up.
No pressure.
If I fuck up, you're going to have a killer neck,
so relax. You know what I mean? I like no pressure if i fuck up you're gonna have a killer neck so relax you know what i mean
i like no pressure i like just being i like hiding behind sam tripoli i love that shit i'm like
you got a you got a killer about to go on so if i don't do so well um just sam tripoli he sam
tripoli's the tip of the spear when it comes to stand up that's what i always call him i'm like
that's the front line that's the guy we send in when you know because sam will go hard yeah sam trippley will go hard
the paint you know the one thing i i think about the comedy store and back when we used to hang
out there in 2001 and all the people that were there like ari and sam trippley and duncan all
those dudes back then like sebastian and eddie griffin, all those dudes back then, like Sebastian and Eddie Griffin,
all those dudes,
they blew the fuck up.
But not everybody.
Not Sam, not Steve Simone.
There's a couple other guys,
but some dudes just got fucking big.
Everyone's fucking rich now.
It's crazy.
And my philosophy is,
not philosophy,
but what I take from comedy is, for sure you're
going to give your best performance when you have like a packed house and they all love
you.
You're going to give a good performance, right?
Because you feel all that energy and it gives it back to you.
As opposed to like doing standup in front of like six people and they don't know who
you are.
That's probably not going to be your best set, maybe.
Most of the time, it ain't going to be your best set.
It ain't going to compare to a whole fucking room
filled with people that love you.
And then all that energy makes you
give your best performance ever, right?
And Sam never really got that.
So Sam was always like,
hey, yeah, he's a good comic,
but no one was saying,
oh, he's amazing. They were saying, he, yeah, he's a good comic, but no one was saying, oh, he's amazing.
They were saying, hey, he's good, he's good, because they only saw him without fame in front of audiences like in the OR where no one really knew him.
So those are fucking hard crowds, dude.
That's a hard room, dude.
But now when we're doing Tinfoil Hat, people are showing up for him, dude.
They love him.
So now you're seeing Sam in front of 200 people, 250 people that love him or screaming for him.
And you're seeing the best of him because now he's got a crowd that's screaming for him.
And he comes out, dude, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, he crushes on the road.
When we go on the road and do a tinfoil hat sam destroys i'm
sure dude i've known sam forever it's crazy he's a funny guy i'm glad it's all happening so the
thing with comedy is like you never really get to see what a comic really is about until he performs
in front of a and it's like a catch-22 because you ain't gonna have a packed room that knows you
unless you acquired some kind of fame somehow through a tv show or through something through the internet but man now you're starting to see
right now you're starting to see the real sam like you're starting to see him peeking and shit it's
it's awesome every time we go out there i'm like dude you're fucking crushing he's out there just
smashing beautiful yeah shout out to sam sam and not only that dude seriously, Sam is one of the fucking coolest guys I've ever met.
He's beautiful.
You know I wouldn't say that.
I wouldn't say that.
That guy is a beautiful person.
I'm doing his show on Tuesday.
The Armenian Assassin.
Oh, shit.
Eddie Bravo.
This was fun, man.
Thank you, man.
Can I give a couple plugs?
Yeah, give a plug.
January 24th, Dallas, Fort Worth.
Hyenas.
Tinfoil Hat Me and Sam.
And then the next day, January 25th,
in Oklahoma City at Bricktown Comedy Club.
Hope to see you there.
Thank you very much.
Love everybody.
Oh, and stay tuned.
We're going to be announcing a big 420 show in Vancouver.
Oh, shit!
It'll be announced this week.
We're very excited.
Oh, shit.
That's it.
Bye, everybody.
420.
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