The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - January 9, 2020

Episode Date: January 10, 2020

Joe is joined by Eddie Bravo, Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yee-haw! Bodies. What do they do with the bodies? Before that, though. There was something before that. Mines, fields, size of Paris. No, it was even before that. Oh, meat carnivore diet. Oh, okay. Maybe it's that. Yeah. So I'm 10 days in, I think. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Today's the 9th. So I'm 11 days in. I started a couple of days before, and I've been eating nothing but meat. Bacon, steak, elk meat, a lot of extra fat. If I eat the elk meat, I eat a lot of bacon. How's that cholesterol son? I don't know I got my blood work done
Starting point is 00:00:47 Last Monday I'll get the results back soon And then I'm going to do it again At the end of the month But I've already lost 7 pounds You feel good? Dude I feel slim
Starting point is 00:00:57 You look good When he came in I was like Yeah he's looking tight Boy's thick I lost my belly I had a gut I was getting a gut
Starting point is 00:01:03 I was getting This is where I get fat instantly, right here. It goes right here, and then it starts pushing out. I think all dudes do, right? I don't know. Some people get it in their face. I get it in my face, too. I feel it in my face when I'm washing my face.
Starting point is 00:01:16 My face feels small. Oh, totally. I get it in both. Yeah. But that's weird that you feel your face. You're like, damn, my face feels small. You know the shape of your face. You wash your face every day, so you get in there, and you're like, oh face feels small you know the shape of your face from can you wash
Starting point is 00:01:25 your face every day so you get in there you're like oh this is like less face also a fat face is a bummer it's a bummer yeah i'm fatter than i've been ever i'm like 190 right now jesus yeah but here's the thing that's good about it i'll tell you what's bad about it first diarrhea is rough and eating only steak gets boring i like diarrhea but the kind of diarrhea that i'm talking about is like confusing it's like you gotta run like you do not trust your butthole it's like you know it's not telling you until the fire is at the door it's not seeing the fire in the horizon and warning you to get to the bathroom it's like the fire is at it's making your doorknob hot what if you're what if you're starving you're far home, and there's a Burger King and that's it?
Starting point is 00:02:08 There's a Burger King for the next- I'll just order four Whoppers, and then I'll take the meat out of them, and I'll just eat the meat. Gangster. That's it. Yeah. I'm going to do it for the whole month. I had an olive. I guess I cheated a little.
Starting point is 00:02:21 How dare you? I had an olive. Fuck, dude. I've had A glass of wine Here and there And I guess that's You know But that's just drinking things
Starting point is 00:02:29 Why'd you decide to do it? I want to see what's up Because I know a lot of people That I respect That have tried Like Jordan Peterson in particular That guy's a fucking genius And when he's telling me
Starting point is 00:02:38 What a massive impact It's had on him Cognitively He said that intellectually He said in his prime He said all of his immune system, autoimmune issues went away. And vitiligo is an autoimmune issue.
Starting point is 00:02:51 So I'm seeing what happens with that too. But that isn't really spreading any. But with him, he was having gum issues, receding gums. That went away. His gums actually came back. Didn't his daughter, wasn't his daughter sick too? That's why they started it? She's got serious arthritis
Starting point is 00:03:06 Like really bad But it helped it right? See this is what it is It's an elimination diet So instead of your diet Breaking down a bunch of different things It's just breaking down one thing And this one thing
Starting point is 00:03:18 That human beings have been eating Since the beginning of time Like this idea that human beings are herbivores Is pretty much nonsense One of the main reasons Why we became what we are They think is because we started eating meat We started getting better access to protein
Starting point is 00:03:30 From cooking it Because we figured out how to harness fire And then through hunting We started getting more devious And started thinking And having better critical skills And then eating mushrooms I think all those things
Starting point is 00:03:42 But that's just the mechanics Are you taking supplements though? Oh yeah yeah Yeah because you have to though? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because you have to, right? You're not getting every. No, I wouldn't think you would. You think you have any fans that are vegan?
Starting point is 00:03:49 Oh hell yeah. You do? I meet them all the time. Because I have a couple of vegan students that, man, one said, I don't listen to JRE no more because he talks too much about meat.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And he's like, full blown vegan. God. I talk too much about meat. That's your trigger? Yeah. That's your trigger? That's about hunting the meat?
Starting point is 00:04:10 And it's not Einstein. It's not Einstein. No, I love Einstein. It's Mexican. Mexican. Dude, 95% to 97% of the population of the planet Earth eats meat. This is what vegans are. It's very loud and very vocal.
Starting point is 00:04:24 But they want to make it look like there's this massive movement like no it's i don't know you know i don't know what your body feels like when you eat things everybody's body is different everybody's body reacts to nutrients differently except for processed foods we can all agree that's not good for anybody yeah processed foods and sugar are all bad for everyone the reason why people are so fucking fat the reason why everyone's so fat is carbohydrates and fat and sugar and all of it mixed up together in massive portions and sedentary lifestyle there's a bunch of factors so i've killed a bunch of those factors right i killed the sedentary lifestyle i exercise a lot um i and then i killed most of the sugar most of the bullshit and then before i went on
Starting point is 00:05:06 this diet i i had gotten off the rails a little bit too many too many carbs too much pasta i was eating like fucking subs yeah i fell off hard you ever go to dan super subs no oh son right out there in ventura oh really oh hell yeah oh you got to get the giant you got gotta get the giant Pastrami The giant pastrami, holy shit is it good And it's all bread Fatty pastrami Look man, that's a lot of calories You gotta run some Cam Haines type miles To burn off that shit
Starting point is 00:05:36 So all the different things that can fuck with your health And all the different things What makes you feel good and what makes you feel bad Depending upon your biology Your lifestyle, I'm yeah so this is my experiment for the month just meat for the month so far this is the most amazing thing i would just oh sorry sorry energy levels like this straight there's no fluctuations because the carbs insulin there's no carbs there's no carbs i'm not having any carbs yeah i, I'm saying before, you were probably eating carbs. There's some form of carb. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:06:06 So your insulin was spiking in your days like this. Dude, I would love pasta. It's so bad. I would make like elk sausage in a big bowl of spaghetti. It's so good. God, that sounds nice. It's so good in the moment. But afterwards, the amount of time that it feels good versus the amount of time it doesn't feel good is so massive.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Oh, I hate myself afterwards. I hate myself. But the amount of time it feels good versus the amount of time it doesn't feel good. It's so massive. Oh, I hate myself afterwards. I hate myself. But the amount of time it feels good is like five minutes. But goddamn, that's a good five. It's a good five. It's a great five. It's a tight five. It fucks with your whole day.
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's so nice. Like, think of it this way. How often would you want to get laid if every time you got laid, you gained 20 pounds? You'd be like, every time I'm getting laid, I just keep getting fat. Once a month, then. Once a month. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Just ride it out. I'd have to see it. At the end of the month, drop that weight down again, start looking fresh, get laid. Jerking off, do you gain like five pounds? No, you don't gain anything jerking off. I would have to see her. Your boy might get fat if she's bad enough. If she's hot enough.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Then five other pounds. If she's willing to fuck you while you're fat, too. That's a special girl. Special girl doesn't get turned off at all by your big, fat gut. Doesn't give a fuck. She doesn't care if you gain that weight. They're out there. They're out there.
Starting point is 00:07:12 They're out there. Chubby chases, bro. So this is obviously the Goldilocks period. It's a honeymoon, right? It just started. And you're into it? I don't know. I don't know what this is. I don't know. I don't know what this is.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I don't know if I'm going to keep doing it. Usually about 13 days in, that's where people break. We're like, fuck this, dude. Or, I'm not feeling great. It was really boring about five days in. But like I said, now, is today the 9th? So today's the 11th day in. Today was no problem.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I know what I'm doing. My biggest issue I put on weight, especially in December was uh the road because i wrote it wherever i go philly it's cheese steaks or new york it's pizza it's just it's just you know there's gonna be more discipline it's late too because you know you get done at 1 2 a.m yep yep i gotta figure it out yeah um people did eat like this though there's human beings that have eaten like this for long periods of time. The idea that they didn't is crazy. Inuits eat like this. Native Americans, the Comanches ate like this.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Comanches barely ate anything other than buffalo. Have you ever seen a Comanche and been like, God damn, I don't want to look like that? Well, they're all dead, Brendan. That's what I'm saying, dude. Yeah, but that's because Americans had guns. They were probably shredded as fuck. Are you kidding me? They had patches? Well, there's a difference between shredded and malnourished, Eddie. Well, but that's because Americans had guns. They were probably shredded as fuck. Are you kidding me? Apache?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Well, there's a difference between shredded and malnourished, Eddie. Well, some of them were giant. Come on, man. Some of them were malnourished. The Comanches weren't necessarily malnourished. I mean, in occasional bouts of famine, they were. But for the most part, they were following the buffalo. Every caveman was Tread City, though.
Starting point is 00:08:41 You know what I'm saying? Maybe. There's no fat cavemen. There's no fat Indians. Right, right. They didn't have a chance To get fat They got older Once the
Starting point is 00:08:48 Settlers moved in though And they started living On reservations And getting white man food They all got fat I'm reading this book About it now They didn't know
Starting point is 00:08:55 What to do with flour So they would just Try to eat it They didn't know How to cook it So they would just Try to eat it They were fucking starving
Starting point is 00:09:00 When the White men took over And pushed the Navajo Into reservations And we sneezed on them And like took out all of them Bro 90% of them dead When the white men tick over and push the Navajo into reservations. Then we sneezed on them and took out all of them. Bro, 90% of them dead. Achoo! Dead.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I'm reading this account. I'm reading this. It's horrific. They set up this reservation and everybody got syphilis. Everybody. Everybody's banging everybody and they all got syphilis and people's hair is falling out. They have ulcers all over their body and people are going crazy and dying. Fuck, man. They can solve syphilis And people's hair is falling out They have ulcers all over their body And people are going crazy and dying Fuck man
Starting point is 00:09:27 They can solve syphilis now right? Today You're all good now Like Al Capone died of syphilis All you anti-vaccination motherfuckers You need to pay attention to syphilis Polio There's a lot of shit
Starting point is 00:09:38 Smallpox It gotta be Right? There's a Not for kids There's a Hep C It's made for kids What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:09:44 What is that? HPV HPV? HPV, yeah. They have a vaccination for that now? They have a vaccination for everything now. It can be a problem. Dude, back then, that's only 150 years ago. Living those days, catching diseases, they didn't even know what it was.
Starting point is 00:10:00 People just start dying. Game over. Black flag? No idea. See ya. Who knows how much of all that shit is a career? History is just so full of deception. even know what it was people just start dying game over black plague no idea like who knows how much of all that shit is a career you know history is just so full of deception like what if what if like what if like hell yeah like jealous white people would just say like he's
Starting point is 00:10:13 saying hell yeah because you're getting into conspiracies yeah this is the top of my hat well this is the top of now what if what if all that shit uh all the indians had syphilis we're like jealous white not the indians everybody the Indians had syphilis, were like jealous white dudes. Not the Indians, everybody. The soldiers had syphilis. Everyone had syphilis. Okay, okay. You know what I'm saying, right?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Indians got syphilis. You don't want to fuck them. Meanwhile, the white chicks wanted to fuck the Indians. They're like, let's go fuck the Indians. It's a slow story of a disastrous idea by this General Carlton guy who wanted these guys to move into this area. He wanted to move off the reservations to New Mexico, and they had this area set aside for them. But they cut down all the trees for firewood.
Starting point is 00:10:53 They started running out of food. Too many people were coming in. They took away all their guns, and then the Comanches found them, so the Comanches were attacking the Navajo. God damn. Dude, it's horrific. Reading this, I mean, even though I have it 150 years ago my hands are sweating i'm like these people are fucked they're surrounded by thousands of hostile indians they're just kidnapping their kids raping their women killing
Starting point is 00:11:14 people taking away all their horses and there's like a sitting duck on this reservation dude the fucking the shit people had to go through just 150 years ago. It's horrific. But without it, you know, you wouldn't be able to just fly into Albuquerque and go to Jackson's. True. And 15 fucking Native Americans trying to kill you everywhere. Or fly into Jeffrey Epstein's ranch in Albuquerque. Do you have a ranch there? Not only does he have a ranch there, but he's got a mile away, he actually owns a Western world.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It's like Westworld. Dude, 60 minutes? The elites, that's where they hang out. Jeffrey Epstein's Western town. In Albuquerque? In Albuquerque. 60 minutes had a piece about how the suicide is fake. 60 minutes.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Did you see in his little cell, there's like 10 different freaking outfit jumpsuits. There's a cord. There's a pen. It's nuts. And his brother's the one who hired this outside lawyer. And the lawyer's like, I know it looks like I'm here to be like, oh, no. I'm telling you, look at all this stuff. Here's the evidence.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Well, the Michael Badden guy, that guy from the HBO autopsy series, series i mean that guy has done thousands of autopsies and he's a real expert he's like i've never seen anyone who was who hung themselves with injuries like this especially where the mark's at who knows who knows if if that's all just a distraction to like uh get people arguing make it so obvious that it was it wasn't a suicide. It's so obvious Let's release it make it so obvious meanwhile He's still alive and everyone's trying to figure out how he died and and all they care about is that he's dead You think he's dead anything is pretty deep chess He's one step ahead of us. That's why so good at you. Why would they have why?
Starting point is 00:13:02 We're just causing a fucking triangle on their first why would they have why would they be pushing a fucking triangle on their first there's virtually a media blackout on it for the longest time but they gotta talk about something because the longer the mainstream media doesn't talk about it the more obvious it looks and it's waking everybody up you know how many people who are super anti-conspiracy theorists are all into epstein now it's like when 9-11 happened that woke up a lot of-11 happened, that woke up a lot of people. 9-11 woke people up. A lot of people say, well, it started with 9-11. A lot of shit's gonna,
Starting point is 00:13:28 people are gonna say it started with Jeffrey Epstein because it's so obvious. Epstein, even my dad's like, it's so obvious. What are we doing? What we're seeing now is, Michael Shermer.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Michael Shermer's calling it a conspiracy. Everybody. People that hate conspiracy theorists are all into it. Yeah, Michael Shermer. I'm so balls deep
Starting point is 00:13:44 and there's a guy on YouTube who every day he puts out, conspiracy theorists are all into it. Michael Shermer. I'm so balls deep. There's a guy on YouTube every day he puts out, all he does is he's written books on gangsters and all that. Every day he puts out an Epstein video, an update, and he just goes deeper and deeper and deeper. His name is Sean Atwood. What's the update every day though? Dude, it would
Starting point is 00:14:02 take me two hours to go into. It's really all about gisling maxwell's father he was the one who was originally doing what epstein was doing epstein took so epstein started banging just lane she takes him she goes you know what you're going to take over the family business the family business is it's not just blackmailing the elite. That's part of it. But the man. A big part of it, right? A big part of it. Dude, her father, he's the one.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Robert Maxwell. That guy was a, dude, he worked. I love this shit. I don't know. I'm afraid to talk about this shit, dude. I don't know. He's dead. Listen to Sean Atwood.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Okay, well, we'll have people go to that guy's page. It's incredible how deep it is. It's the first conspiracy. It's the first conspiracy in modern times where everyone is like, no way. Ah, JFK. He's so deep. No, no, JFK, there's still people to this day that think that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK. A lot of them, including people that have written like good.
Starting point is 00:15:01 What is that? What's that guy's name? He wrote Case Closed. William whatever. people that have written like good what is that um is that guy's name he wrote case closed uh william whatever uh there's there's been a lot of credible people that think that oswald acted alone i don't think so that's so crazy i don't think so that's ridiculous that's like epstein again but this one this ain't the first epstein they happen all the time no one's defending it yeah no one no one's saying no one's coming out defending it. No one's saying. No one's coming out to defend it. The government's just silent. I think there's a good chance that he's alive. I think he's alive.
Starting point is 00:15:29 That's crazy. That's where. I think they're just distracting everybody. Oh, it wasn't a suicide. I want him to be alive because it would make this even more fun. If we're in Europe, you're like. Anything's possible. It's already crazy as fuck.
Starting point is 00:15:39 The amount of deception that's shoved down our throats, it's obvious now. It's all out in the open. So any plausible theory, you can't laugh at. Dude, he's in Thailand. He could easily be alive. I agree. He could easily be alive. He's in Thailand right now.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Totally. With bandages all over his face, watching TV from the hospital. Exactly. Exactly. He did full facial reconstruction surgery. Fuck, yeah. Hey, man. They could change your face.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Why did they need to show 9,000 jumpsuits and shit? That was weird. They're making it so obvious. How did,000 jumpsuits and shit? They're making it so obvious. How did those jumpsuits get in there? Dude, it's so obvious. It's obvious. It's too obvious. I'm with Eddie on this one for real. It's the most obvious one of all time.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Look at all those jumpsuits. Come on, man. How about 2020 showed his dead body on TV? The craziest thing, the craziest thing besides all that, the craziest thing is like, where's the video footage? Oh, the cameras weren't working. Oh, no, no, no. Did you see? That's the craziest shit ever thing is like, where's the video footage? Oh, the cameras weren't working. Oh, no, no, no. Did you not see the new video footage?
Starting point is 00:16:30 The new video footage was accidentally erased. That's insane. The first video footage. They're doing that on purpose. The video from Jeffrey Epstein's suicide attempt is gone, jail officials. Inadvertently preserved footage from wrong floor. Hey, government, if you're going to kill someone Do better though We got this one
Starting point is 00:16:46 The first suicide attempt If you were part of this This This Network of like elite people Right Like he's definitely He definitely has
Starting point is 00:16:54 A lot of power Right Wouldn't you Wouldn't there be like Wouldn't you think It would be a good idea To all get together And say listen
Starting point is 00:17:01 Every now and then Some dude's gonna We're gonna have to sacrifice One of you guys And just fake your death And you're gonna have to to sacrifice one of you guys and just fake your death. And then you're going to have to go to one of the islands in Japan or one of the, they probably have so many spots set up.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Wouldn't it be smart? Go set up some spots and in like the Greek islands or somewhere like off North, the coast of Norway, Greenland, Greenland could, who knows what's in Greenland. They can have all these cities for,
Starting point is 00:17:22 for like all these people that like they die, but you never see their bodies. They could just say, you know, they can have all these cities for, like all these people that like, they die, but you never see their bodies. They could just say, you know, people used to fake their deaths all the time back in the 30s and 40s. Yeah, but that was before the internet. It'd be way easier to just kill Epstein. Way easier. Way easier.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Especially when he's in the cell. Dude, you don't think he has a kill switch? You don't think that dude did? I think he probably does. You know, dude, man, I wish I could tell you all this shit. That's why Justine Maxwell's alive. You can't tell us? You wish you it's dark dude this is the stuff i like going it's dark eddie i'll tell you guys about this out but sean atwood that that guy holy shit
Starting point is 00:17:53 he's he's he's dug in so deep like so deep like the neighbor that the property that's right next to the one in in manhattan that les wexner gave him for $0. Hey, man, that's a nice person. It's a good friend. Nice friend. Gives you a $70 million house. You know what, people always jump on that, but that's not that crazy
Starting point is 00:18:11 because back in the 80s, apparently, like Sean Atwood saying, that's not that crazy because people used to do that all the time to save on taxes, so that ain't a big deal. Maybe Epstein did pay him
Starting point is 00:18:22 whatever it was worth. They would often do that and just say it's zero. It's not the craziest thing. It's not the craziest thing. But the property next to that mansion, the history of that shit, damn, I wish we could go over that, man. It's crazy. Epstein has been involved in intelligence for a very long time. Very long time.
Starting point is 00:18:44 As long as the Iran-Contra scandal. Remember that? A lot of drugs coming in. It's like all this illegal black ops. George Sr. was the main el patron. Epstein was one of the workers. His girl's in hiding, right, Eddie? Because they said she was a CIA informant.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Who? Jim Maxwell. Yes. She's like hiding. Who? The main chick? Ghislaine Maxwell. Yes. She was the main one. Yeah. She brought Epstein into the operation.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Her father was the one. Epstein took over for her father, Robert Maxwell. That's what's going on. She's more powerful than Epstein. And they can't find her now. They won't touch her. They're not going to touch her. You don't think she has a kill switch?
Starting point is 00:19:23 I guarantee you she's in touch with people. It only makes sense. Her father was the master of blackmailing people. That's what he did. Just give me an idea what that place was next door. It's just when you go through the owners, like there's like, there's so,
Starting point is 00:19:39 see the thing, what's going on now is the biggest phenomenon that's going on right now is with the internet. The internet is like backfiring and it's boomeranging back at the people. The internet was intended to control us and surveil us. And now
Starting point is 00:19:55 what's happening... No, it wasn't. The internet was intended for scientists to share information at universities. It was invented for universities. That's your opinion. That's why they invented it. So they didn't have to call each other and send packages in the mail. No. No? That could be one of the reasons.
Starting point is 00:20:11 The internet was... The people that invented the internet, why'd they invent it? It was all funded by the CIA. It was all a way to keep... It's always about the New World Order. It's always about the easiest way to control us that's all so okay there's this software
Starting point is 00:20:28 Robert Maxwell Robert Maxwell Ghislaine's father one of his jobs was man I don't know if I should talk about this shit I'm not going to talk about it I don't want to talk about it I was reading something that I'm writing this bit about a real thing that happened with the CIA in the 1950s.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And it's called Operation Midnight Climax. And MKUltra, Eddie knows what that is. I know what that is. Mind control experiments from the CIA. They had 6% of the CIA's budget. And there was no oversight. They could spend it on whatever they wanted. And what they were doing was just dosing the fuck out of people with LSD.
Starting point is 00:21:11 They dosed this one guy 77 days in a row. Jesus Christ. And they ran out of people that were willing to do it. Because a lot of times it was college students. That's how they toasted the Unabomber. That's where Manzi came from, too. Well, a lot of these people, they cooked their brain with acid. Well, they did that with, they ran out of people, so they started opening up brothels.
Starting point is 00:21:30 So they opened up whorehouses, and they called it Operation Midnight Climax. So they would hire hookers, and the hookers would dose these guys up. They'd give them a drink that was filled with acid. And then fuck them? And then fuck them on film. How much did they charge? What a great gig. Good question. What a great gig. LSD and sex? And then fuck them on film. How much did they charge? What a great gig. Good question.
Starting point is 00:21:45 What a great gig. LSD and sex? And so they would film it through like two-way glass. Wow. Yeah. And so they're sitting there. Their whole budget was being spent on dosing guys and watching guys fuck. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:22:01 USA. I mean, they did it for a long... CIA chief deplores CIA brothels. What year is this? That looks like 1952. 1977, San Francisco. By that time, they'd been doing it for more than 20 years. I was reading a book on this stuff, and when they were dosing everyone, the LSD and acid
Starting point is 00:22:18 on stuff in Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco, that's where Manson came out of. The whole family came out of there from all the LSD with the CIA and stuff. Okay, so it ended 12 years ago. It ended 12 years ago. You've been studying. I'm telling you, bro. They're all past history. Turner said in San Francisco, the CIA.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So the CIA had said, that was terrible, and that's past history. We don't do that anymore. It's been 12 years. At what point? This is just the tip of the iceberg. We can go on for five hours with this shit it's almost like the cia was created as a scapegoat like all because the cia ain't going to jail where this how do you put cia in jail you can't and then the directors they're only there temporarily they're in out everyone like goes through it but it's a re like if you find out some evil shit's going on, CIA did it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 CIA ain't going to jail. True. Everyone says the CIA is nefarious and doing all this crazy shit. Eddie's one step ahead of us on this. Dude, every time. Catch us in the triangle. That's all I do, baby. That's all I do.
Starting point is 00:23:17 That is all you do. I know. It's crazy. You would love this. I'm reading a book now where say hired two mafia guys to assassinate Castro. It was a legit- Plot. Yes, whole plot.
Starting point is 00:23:29 So interesting. It was like 635 tries on his life. Yep. Amazing. That's a beast. Something like that. He died of old age. Yeah, beast, right?
Starting point is 00:23:38 He even came to New York, and they still couldn't do shit to him. That was before they really turned on him. Because at first, the United States was backing him. Yep, and then JF couldn't do shit to him. Yeah, that was before they really turned on him because at first the United States was Backing him. Yep, and then having it and then something happened they switch. There's a lot of different theories like maybe He was working for that like Fidel Castro was part of a CIA operation to overthrow the Batista regime maybe or and then once he got in he said fuck the CIA fuck the United States and the CIA goes okay we gotta kill this motherfucker. A lot of times
Starting point is 00:24:10 that happens. People turn. Like the Kennedys turn. Osama Bin Laden. Because the Kennedys come from a crime family. The mob put Kennedy in. Their dad. So something happened between Robert and John where they were you know that was his attorney general. That's who he hired. So once they got together something happened and made them flip.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Some people say that JFK, I don't know if it's true or not, like his son died at an early age. Just one of his kids died. And from that point on, he decided to do the right thing and just say, fuck it. And him and Robert knew they were going to get killed. They would talk about it. They knew they were going to get killed for doing what they're doing. But they're just going to go out
Starting point is 00:24:45 with their boots on, you know what I mean? That's a theory. I don't know, maybe one crazy dude did it, but come on. Isn't history great, though? Like, to have all this stuff
Starting point is 00:24:54 and go through all the different theories and fucking... Well, what's crazy with history is now we can see it. Before, people just told it. It wasn't until, like, the 20th century that really people saw it.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yeah. Before that, it was just people telling stories about stuff. Who knows what's real, like from the 1700s. They do their best to piece it together from multiple accounts, but it's really hard. That's the Bible, isn't it? Oh, the Bible's even worse. The Bible's, I mean, it's a bunch of stories.
Starting point is 00:25:17 But not just that, a bunch of stories translated multiple times. That's what I'm saying from a shitload of people. But for sure it got translated and all that shit with the bible but for sure i i'm a in my heart i'm a hundred i i believe it a hundred percent that there is some stuff in the bible that's the real shit there is it comes from the real shit it got distorted and translated and all that what do you mean by the real shit like like it's a manual on how to live your life right you know what i I mean? These are rules. Like maybe God is the idea.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Maybe God and Jesus is the frequency. You want to get in that frequency of life? Don't deceive anybody. Don't kill each other. Don't fuck each other up. Then you will be in that zone. That's what God is. Like maybe the book is a manual.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It's got to be because there's one thing. i said i'm balls deep and and uh trying to find the truth sometimes i'm wrong whatever truth but a lot of guys a lot of guys three different guys that i looked up to and looked and asked for information because they were so into a certain area that i wasn't into i'm like tell me more tell me more and they are like my mentors at the end dude all of them they're starting to look into the bible and i remember the first guy back in like 2005 when i was like full-blown like the you know against religion and all that um i would say dude what are you doing dude you showed me the way and now you're looking in the bible goes i know it sounds crazy but you gotta you gotta you gotta look into it too there's this
Starting point is 00:26:40 isn't just a book with crazy fairy tales this This is some real shit. Well, what it is is a historical account of the times of the people that lived back then, as best they could tell it, translated down over thousands of years. So there's some absolute truths in the Bible, and there's some great guides to live your life, but there's also some nonsense. For sure. Walking on water and all that stuff. Not just that. Maybe ignore the nonsense.
Starting point is 00:27:02 God sicked two bears on these kids that were making fun of this dude for being bald that there's like jack and jill stories for sure for sure for sure that's in there you have to wonder how much of any of the original men uh stories well if you look at mainstream history of like catholicism i grew up catholic you did too yeah catholic christian christian well um the mainstream story name a branch lutheran uh no what's what's the what's the normal one protestant protestant uh uh you're not nothing baptist i'm nothing i'm a deist you're agnostic right you're not sure deist what if i believe there's a god but i don't believe in like jesus or okay you think when you think about there's a god like I don't believe in like Jesus Okay When you think about There's a God
Starting point is 00:27:45 Like what's the thought That comes through your head Like what are you thinking When you say I think there's a God I think there's a higher being You know A thing
Starting point is 00:27:53 I don't know I don't know I think I think there's The energy in our body Goes somewhere There's something that makes us You know
Starting point is 00:28:01 Like I can feel certain things Like love or intuition Stuff like that That has to be something you know i think that goes somewhere i don't think there's a heaven and hell jordan peterson has some really good advice on that he said whether or not you believe in a god he goes live as if god is real and there's real benefits i believe that i think it really if you really do have that kind of gratitude and humility that you're you're being watched over by a loving god yeah i think there's a benefit to thinking like it's just about doing the right thing yep it's all about how do we get the people
Starting point is 00:28:33 to do the right thing and i believe there's a god because um a couple things you know when when i i did dmt uh i went into i thought okay there's more There's way more shit To this reality This dimension That That's out there That we're not seeing All the time And then the more
Starting point is 00:28:50 The more I get into You know trying to find out What we're on And what What this is all about And then you look at the mainstream I think someone created What we're in
Starting point is 00:29:01 Whatever you want to Whatever you think this is Thinks assimilation I think this is something I don't believe in assimilation Me neither Why don't Think it's assimilation? I think this is something. I don't believe in assimilation. Why don't you believe in assimilation? There's just no evidence. That bums me out.
Starting point is 00:29:09 When you think about your kids and shit, that bums me out. There's no evidence. But it could be true. It could be, but there's zero evidence. Really smart people don't just say- I don't go by consensus, though. Not only is there evidence, but if you look at probability theory. What was that guy's name?
Starting point is 00:29:26 That was the guy, Nick Bohlstrom. We talked about it in depth and he said, according to probability theory, it's more likely that we're in a simulation. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Maybe that's true. Because the fact that simulations... But that's like a measure, isn't it? I believe... Almost inevitable. Unless we get disrupted
Starting point is 00:29:42 by nature, unless we get hit with an asteroid or start a nuclear war, it's inevitable that technology reaches a point where simulation is possible. Well, if you watch Rick and Morty, that's what it is. Well, if simulation is real, then the simulation goes on forever in the space that everyone thinks there is. It could be a wave of life.
Starting point is 00:29:59 An infinite computer program. No, it's not that simple. It could be one of the facets of life. Like we could be creating a simulation just through culture and society, and that simulation is literally how we enter into another dimension. We're looking at it like it's some nonsense thing. Like it's a simulation. Oh, it's just a simulation.
Starting point is 00:30:17 It could literally be how dimensions are created. They're created by creativity and ingenuity and innovation over long periods of time with millions of people working in conjunction. Different people figuring out processing power and coding and all these different things. And next thing you know, you've got these there's these virtual reality places. Like we have an Oculus
Starting point is 00:30:38 out there that you can put on and you can do all these games. It's really fun. But there's some virtual reality places now that you go into a warehouse and you go through this whole thing. know there's uh there's a place that's in disneyland and there's a another place down the street called sandbox and you play games oh there's a there's an arcade there's vr arcade at the westfield mall on a riverside that's called there's one right here parallel universe yes but don't you think if we're in a simulation and you believe we're in a simulation if i was was not right in the head, it'd be wazer for me to commit suicide if I just think this is a whole simulation.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah, I mean. It gets dark, man. There's a lot of variables. There's a lot of variables about why should I just do whatever I want if it's just a simulation. If it's a simulation, it doesn't count, does it? I don't think it's that simple. I think all the rules apply. I think what they're trying to say is if human beings keep going, we definitely will create a simulation.
Starting point is 00:31:26 It's just a matter of time. So if that's the case, how do we know that we're not in one already? And we really don't. Every day we go to sleep and every day we wake up and we assume and we have faith that all that stuff that we remember is really how life went on before we were awake. But we really don't know. When you black out and then come back to who the fuck knows what's transpiring who knows where your consciousness goes who knows where you are you're gone eight hours seems like a second all of a sudden you're foggy a couple minutes to wake up and boom where'd that time go where are you who are you you're
Starting point is 00:31:59 assuming that all of the stuff that you know and all the stuff that you experience is 100% real. But what if it is real? What do you mean? If the simulation is real? No, if the simulation isn't real and we are on this earth, it's possible too. When it comes to simulation theory, I don't think the odds of that are prime. But the passing out is a bad example. The good example is that we are within 100 years away from making something that's indiscernible from what
Starting point is 00:32:27 we experience every day and that's inevitable it seems like just how people do it and what i'm saying is that might literally be how your consciousness transforms into whatever next stage of existence there is we might it might be something that human beings do like a caterpillar makes a cocoon and becomes a butterfly human beings make crazy fucking technology and i think that's one of the reasons why we're so invested in materialism everybody loves things they love shiny things especially the new ones all of you got the newest car it's even faster the newest computer has better graphics and as all this stuff as we're paying for newer and better shit, it's fueling all this innovation, which making crazier and crazier technology until artificial intelligence, until we create something that you can't turn off.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Or you download your consciousness and you just, you know, you can download into another body or another. That might be what a simulation is. That might be what a simulation is. is and what that might be what a simulation is what a simulation might be is that when we open this up with sufficient power and technology and processing power whatever you are might go into this thing that's a bit of a bummer though right i don't know when you think about it like let's say when you're 100 and finally technology there you just download your consciousness into another body you just keep going it's like man this is it i don it? I don't know. This is it? We don't go on? That's depressing as fuck to me.
Starting point is 00:33:49 What's kind of – I mean, what are we? That's the thing. It's like, what the fuck are we? When we're thinking and talking, when you're thinking of yourself, like you, when you're using the word I, I am going to do this. I'm going – what does that mean? Like, where are you? You're this strange being that's got a finite lifespan. It's not really that long Not at all
Starting point is 00:34:06 You know I mean Eddie and I are middle aged Motherfuckers if we're lucky You're on the back You're on the back nine We're on the back nine I'm almost there Yeah and then you die
Starting point is 00:34:13 So what is going on While you're alive It's all guess work man We don't know what this is And everyone is involved In the guess work From the highest levels Of government
Starting point is 00:34:21 Down to fucking The poorest people in the world Everyone's guessing It's all weird It's all real weird And it's all we're gonna die and the next generation is gonna pick up and the next generation after them is gonna pick up but but life is it because of technology and science you're you know the the average lifespan's going like this it is but also you you have more information you can look at history you can look at how long we've been here the more
Starting point is 00:34:45 they start they just found another asteroid impact from 800 000 years ago jesus they knew we were hit 800 000 years ago but now they've located the crater it's like would you read that in the library yes i've watched it on youtube this it's becoming this you know people are realizing like there's there's only been a short amount of time where human beings have even been human we've only been human for half a million years at the most none of that stuff bumps you out especially have kids you know it's weird well if but think about it this way if you were a neanderthal or you know a fucking australia pithicus and you know you were told that your species is going to go extinct you think all the good times you had killing muskrats and cooking them over the fire with your kids and and hiding from jaguars and shit you think all those good
Starting point is 00:35:28 times like this is we're not going to be us anymore like no you think you think if this is a computer simulation at what point like when did it start like in 1800s the 1600s uh 200 a.d 5000 bc at when did when was the beginning of this simulation? Who knows, man? We don't know. There's a video game where you create your own worlds. SimCity, baby. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:35:53 More crazy. There's a video game where you literally create a universe. You create a planet. You put things on it. What is that game called again, Jamie? What is it? Oddworld. No Man's Sky?
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah. I think that's what you're talking about. That could be what the universe is i mean the whole thing about the big bang like the big bang means that the entire universe is smaller than the head of a pin at one point in time somewhere around no but hold on a second so the universe smaller than the head of a pin boom explodes becomes everything well what started that well how do we not know that that was when somebody pressed start on a program? How do we even know that even happened?
Starting point is 00:36:29 The theory is billions of years ago, out of nothing, everything exploded. What do you think happened? Well, you know who came up with it. Are you becoming religious on me? You know who came up with it. Dude, if you start talking about Jesus, Eddie. Are you becoming religious on me? Are you coming up with the Big Bang?
Starting point is 00:36:41 You can look this up right now. The Big Bang is a priest from the Vatican. A priest came up with that. There was a theory. Scientist didn't? Nope. A priest. Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:36:51 A million percent. So he was the first one. And I have a good idea why. Why? That's going to take like 10 minutes. Can I have another one of those? Yeah, please. I'll get someone who's icing that thing. You know, if one of those? Yeah, please. He's talking to someone.
Starting point is 00:37:05 There's ice in that thing. You know, if we're in a simulation, you're talking about the homeless guy or the kid starving in Ethiopia. He's like, what the fuck, dude? The guy grinding his way out or the single mother of five working at McDonald's. She's like, who the fuck chose this? What is going on here, man? So I feel like only people who are higher up and people that have money say we're in a simulation.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yes, the guy at McDonald's. I bet you there's not one dude we're gonna mcdonald's going i think it's a simulation dude that's true but that's just because when you're struggling for survival everything is more important like you're you're on the edge but the thing about a guy like elon musk who's one of the proponents of the simulation theory the thing about a guy like him is he's got enough resources to relax a little bit but also he is involved in technology every day and he's probably one of the smartest people on earth and he's financially stable so he can stop and think and think about things in a way where he's not he's not overburdened by like he has stresses for sure and obligations for sure massive ones three giant companies but what he doesn't have is like survival stress survival stress about be like being poor or being
Starting point is 00:38:11 in danger but also the level that where his iq is so high right he's on a different frequency he might be too smart there's a lot of things where when he speaks i go yeah he's smart as fuck i i don't agree with him you know i like that's not once i start seeing like um organic matter like uh body parts and they they you watch it under like some um microscope yeah and you see some like computer numbers and stuff then i'd be like oh shit what are you talking about for me to For me to believe that we live in a computer simulation seriously, I'd have to see evidence like that. If it is a computer simulation, Eddie, that means everything that's physical you're experiencing in a simulated way. So it could be everything.
Starting point is 00:38:58 If it's just your mind experiencing things that your mind translate as being physical sensations, why would it have numbers and zeros on it? I get it. And maybe we do live in a simulation. I'm not saying we do. I just don't see any evidence of it. How about Callan's at 3.30, though? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:13 We knew it. I told you. You fucking called. I said, we're not waiting for him. It's 4 o'clock now. Yeah. Look, I'm not saying that we're in a simulation. What I'm saying is I think things are a lot weirder than anybody wants to admit.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Or we're just overthinking it Or there's so much information The internet And you know There's smart people We're just overthinking everything There is no stimulation There's that too
Starting point is 00:39:33 Once you live your life It's over man Lights out Could be Case closed That's it We want to think There's something next
Starting point is 00:39:40 Because we want to hope That our contributions Are permanent And that we're going to Somehow or another Come back in another life. That's where kids come into play, right? Your seeds.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Also, the way you treat people and the things that you rub off on other people and they start to carry it on throughout their life. The one thing that's happening right now is we're at a point now where more people don't trust the mainstream information coming in more than ever. And it's gotten to the point, it's snowballing, where there's an army, they're called anons, Q anons, that they're anonymous, but they're all on the same track, looking for the truth, digging, digging, making YouTube channels.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Boom, there's all these these youtube and they're all popping up they're becoming the new news the real news no commercials no um uh bullshit motherfuckers no advertisement stuff yeah no none of those i mean look at the news these days look at the news look what they're saying but who's watching watching that? Over and over. Nobody. Over and over. Over and over. They're wrong about everything. Over and over. Three years of Trump's a Russian agent. They gave Trump the Russian.
Starting point is 00:40:54 That's the worst thing you could give a politician. He's a Russian agent. You can get killed for that shit. They gave him the worst shit. They gave him Russia, racism, rape. They gave him all that shit. Nothing stuck. Nothing stuck.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But if they could do that to the president, they could do that to anybody. But it's the first time we've ever really seen that being done to a president. Yeah, dude. If they could do that to him, they could do that to anybody. But it's interesting because he's the first president ever that's made an assault on the media. And instead of like proving their integrity and being unflappable and sticking to the tightest journalistic standards, they've actually slipped.
Starting point is 00:41:33 No matter what Trump does, they take the opposite stance. No matter what. But it's also happening at the same time. See, one of the ways that Trump got a lot of attention when he was running for president is being outrageous. So they would cover him. So all these news channels that thought they were going to expose him for being a jerk or for saying crazy things.
Starting point is 00:41:54 They shot themselves in the foot. So they were going to cover him. They just made him more and more popular. So their business grew from making fun of him, from talking shit about him, from saying he's going to be impeached, from saying he's going to be in jail. That was a part of their business. And then it stayed a part of their business when he started calling them fake news. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:13 And so now, instead of being at the tightest of journalistic standards, they have actually resorted to a lot of clickbaity shit because now people aren't really reading regular newspapers anymore. And they're only watching short clips online. And now people are out. And people aren't paying attention. And a lot of click-baity shit because now people aren't really reading regular newspapers anymore and they're only watching like short clips online and now people are paying attention and a lot of people are out they're out there all this is all bullshit he was right yeah even if you don't like trump you're like how fuck yeah but yeah even if you hate trump think about this if trump didn't win the person that would be president right now would have a body count think about that shit you'd rather have a person with a body count
Starting point is 00:42:46 than Trump just because he's arrogant and overconfident and all that shit. He's a badass businessman. The economy's better than ever. Better than ever. Unemployment better than ever. That's what we have a president here for, to make our country better, more prosperous.
Starting point is 00:43:00 And that's what he's doing. Would you wear a MAGA hat? It's too dangerous. Are you kidding? If I wore a MAGA hat, I'd be looking's doing. Would you wear a MAGA hat? It's too dangerous. Are you kidding? If I wore a MAGA hat, I'd be like looking over my, if you wear a red hat and it says make America great again,
Starting point is 00:43:11 you're going to get killed. If you just wear a red hat that says USA, they'll punch you. Dude, I wore it. I used to wear one. It had a small red button. It better have a thief,
Starting point is 00:43:19 a people. My brother goes, don't wear that hat anymore. I go, why? He goes, because it looks like you're just the biggest Trump sport. I go, it's a red hat.
Starting point is 00:43:26 You can't wear red hats. This is USA. He goes, you can't wear it. Look how powerful the media is. The media is so powerful that anybody wearing a red hat that says, make America great again, it can get punched. Except for Kobe Covington. Well, I don't know if it's the media that did that.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Of course it was. It's people's reaction to those hats. It's anti-Trump. The media hat. It could have been a black hat. It could have been whatever hat. All the anti-Trump. The media hat. It could have been a black hat. It could have been whatever hat. All the anti-Trump stuff comes from the media. It all comes from the media.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Well, it comes from the media because of what we were talking about earlier. It became their business to talk shit about Trump. And they thought by doing that, they were going to sink him. They really did. Yeah. They didn't realize how resilient he is. The boy's gangster. Say what you want about him.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It's not just about Trump. He's pretty cool. It wasn't just Trump. Trump was recruited. There's good people. Okay, we're going to, too. Okay. like a lot of them say what you want it's not just about it wasn't just trump it's trump was recruited he was there's good people okay we're going to do okay dude how about i went to that comic that he was recruited there's a there's a plan how do you know this for sure because uh i'm into it every day man just follow q but follow q q but how do you know that they're right because everything that's happening right now we knew about it two years ago.
Starting point is 00:44:25 We knew about all this shit. The FISA declass, all this shit. All the people that are going down, we knew it. It's still going on right now. Q's dropping right now. Q is Trump and the people around him. It's an intelligence dissemination program. You know who believes in all that shit?
Starting point is 00:44:40 Pat Miletic. It's true. Pat Miletic. Of course. He's got a thing called Conspiracy Farm. He's got a podcast. Q is real, dude. Q is real. It's 100 Pat Miletic Of course He's got a thing called The Conspiracy Farm He's got a podcast Q is real dude Q is real
Starting point is 00:44:47 It's 100% real All it is All Q is Is they're dropping info To the people The patriots The people who really want The best for the country
Starting point is 00:44:55 Not the loony left They don't want the best For the country The left What do you think The loony left wants The loony left Right now
Starting point is 00:45:03 All the The top of the loony left The top of the loony left The top The loony left right now, all the top of the loony left, the top of the loony left, the top of them, they're all going to go down for some shit. It's not just Hunter Biden. It's not just Hunter Biden. It's Pelosi. What do you think they want, Eddie? They want world wars. They want, you know what happened?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Remember 9-11? The day before 9-11, Donald Rumsfeld makes an announcement that the Pentagon is missing $2.3 trillion. Right. Guess what? There was going to be a lot of investigations going on. People were going to go down for that. But guess what? Donald Rumsfeld makes an announcement that the Pentagon is missing $2.3 trillion. Right. Guess what? There was going to be a lot of investigations going on. People were going to go down for that. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:45:31 9-11 happens and no one brings it up. So if we have a world war right now, those people won't go to prison. What would you rather go? You'd rather go to prison or a world war? This is your theory. This is the Q plan. But do you think the world war- This is what's going on. What would you rather-
Starting point is 00:45:43 Hold on a second. You think Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, all these people got together and said, hey, we're going to go to jail unless we start a World War. So let's collude and start a World War. No, no, no. I'm not saying... They didn't say let's start a World War. But they want...
Starting point is 00:45:55 It's a lot more complicated than that. But do they want a World War? Do they want another 9-11? Fuck yeah. Dude, you don't think Biden wants a World War III? Trump doesn't, though. I don't think Trump does. I think Biden wants to be president.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Have you seen the video of Biden at the CFR? You've seen that video of him bragging, doing quid pro quo? Yes. That's what this is all about. This is what they do. This is what they do. This is what politicians do. They go to countries and they go to countries,
Starting point is 00:46:25 they go to countries, and they say, listen, we're going to give you a billion dollars in aid, and you're going to kick back half of it or whatever into our foundations as donations, and then we get our money back,
Starting point is 00:46:35 and then you're going to hire my son, put him on one of your energy boards, and have your taxpayers pay him 100K a month. They've been doing that forever. But, bro, Trump does that too his daughter works in his cabinet right his son-in-law works for the government no no but that's not illegal that's not illegal okay but it's kind of the same thing it's not the same thing okay because it's
Starting point is 00:46:55 not illegal because it's not biden but getting your family jobs no but it's sort of sneaky way is what they do yeah yeah but it's called hooking people up. The fact that Biden threatened, he threatened. I can't do Biden talk, man. I can't go this deep in politics because it bores me. Biden? All of it bores me. He's hilarious. Do you think we're going to World War III, though, with Iran?
Starting point is 00:47:17 It's scary. No, it looks like what Iran did was try to save face and just shoot some missiles in the general direction of a base. They blew up that plane, though. Yeah, and they reported those. That was fucked up. The blowing up of the plane may or may not have been an accident. They said it was a mistake, no?
Starting point is 00:47:29 Well, they're speculating. What do you think? They're speculating. Ukraine airline and all the, well, anyways, I don't know about that, but they reported, Iran reported that they killed 30 Americans. So Iran thinks, oh, we retaliate. Well, no, they're saving face. That's what they're going to say.
Starting point is 00:47:43 They're saving face. That's what they're going to say. No, no, exactly. Good. I hope they do. face. They're saving face. No, no, exactly. That's what's going on. I hope they talk it out. I'm not saying 30 people died. I like what Trump said. Oh, no, you're saying Iran said that to their people.
Starting point is 00:47:51 They were like, it's a way to, they both save face and there's no World War III. That's what's going on. That's all I want. No war. I like what Trump said today. What did he say? When he gave a speech about it, that we can all live together in peace and that we can all prosper together.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah, surprisingly, he doesn't want everyone goes, oh, he wants to go to war because the impeachment it's a distraction. I can't talk about this. Let's talk about the UFC because that's what we do.
Starting point is 00:48:11 The idea of starting this thing we go deep in these and I feel bad. We talk about fun things I feel good. You like these. You like stirring him up about lizard people.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I find what Eddie's info is super interesting. Thank you. You're fucking with him. No, I'm not. I promise. Sometimes I is super interesting. Thank you. You're fucking with him. No, I'm not. I promise. Sometimes I am.
Starting point is 00:48:27 No, he's slipping over. He is. I'm telling you, I'm reading the CIA book. On the down low, he's slipping into it. Me and Tripoli go deep into it. Epstein's going to turn everybody. I'm not that deep. But you're not married to the ball, though, right?
Starting point is 00:48:41 I'm married to the ball. No, you are. I'm super married to the ball. Oh, you are? Yeah, okay. There's, right? I'm married to the ball. No, you are. I'm super married to the ball. Oh, you are? Yeah, okay. There's only certain ones I can go down. Okay. Hey, you said you weren't married to the ball.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I'm open-minded, though, brother. I'm open-minded, Donald. You said you were. No, no, no. Okay, you changed your mind. No, no. I like balls, though. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Well, let's start with... The whole idea about doing this is a 2019 breakdown. But real quick, Conor Cowboy next weekend, fellas. Next weekend. Oh, shit. Yeah, we can start with that. What do you think about that? Conor looks very good in training. He looks very
Starting point is 00:49:09 lean. He looks big. I had Dominic Cruz on my show, The Food Truck Diary, yesterday, and he saw Conor at the training center in Vegas. I was like, dude, his footwork, the way he moves, he's like, he has some new shit too, man. Really? He was like, I don't want to get into it.
Starting point is 00:49:25 He's very explosive. The thing is, if Cowboy can survive the initial onslaught, it becomes very interesting to see. I rewatched Conor and Khabib, and people always talk about Conor gassing out. Well, one of the things that was interesting about Conor Khabib is that the third round, he came out guns blazing. Khabib had been mauling him for the first two. Have you heard about that camp too? Did you hear his Mack Life interview? He he started doing interviews and he was honest he was man for that khabib fight i i didn't train that hard wasn't committed i took the fight you know it is what it is he's like that's why i want to rematch he and he says he hasn't been committed and i with everything going on the outside kind of um chaos i kind of buy into it, man.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I've been watching some old Conor fights. Old Conor fights are awesome. Like from Cage Warriors. But I think you're going to get a version of that old Conor next Saturday against Cowboy. He was throwing capoeira kicks at Cage Warriors. I don't like that it's at 170, though. When I heard that, I went, oh, I don't like that. Well, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:50:20 For him. But it's okay because it's basically 155 where they don't cut weight. They're both 55ers. Conor, obviously, has fought 70 when he fought Nate. Conor's okay because it's basically 155 where they don't cut weight. They're both 55ers. Conor obviously has fought 70 when he fought Nate. Conor's a small son. Cowboy has fought 70 really successfully against big, strong guys, dangerous guys like Mike Perry and Alex Pereira. Alex Pereira who used to be 55 as well.
Starting point is 00:50:37 But I think Conor is – this is a good fight if he wants to fight 70 because you're not fighting an Usman. He's talking about Fighting Usman I don't like that form So what are you thinking dude That might just be crazy talk Usman's so big dude
Starting point is 00:50:51 I stood next to him The other day When you know At the weigh in Kamara's huge dude I couldn't believe That just a few hours ago He had made 170
Starting point is 00:50:57 He's fucking huge dude He looked like he was 195 With like 3% body fat It's gonna be hard To beat that motherfucker dude He's so tough He's amazing That's that motherfucker, dude. He's so tough. He's amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:05 That's going to be hard to beat. He's so tough. Do you know he broke his fucking hand training for that fight? I saw it in the fight. I called it in the fight. I'm like, he's not using his left hand. Keep an eye on his left hand. He switched southpaw for a little bit and was throwing right jabs.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I was like, I think there's something wrong with his left hand. And then somewhere along the line, he starts throwing it again. And he texted me after the fight. He said, you called it. He was like, bro, he sent me a video of him breaking his hand in sparring. And then he said, I just knew I had to just throw it. Such a stud. Threw it anyway.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Such a stud. You know, that guy's knees were so fucked up that he couldn't walk on concrete. He was training for a fight, and he had to walk on grass. He would move over to the concrete because his knees hurt. Why did his knees hurt? Because his meniscus is torn apart. He can't run. His cartilage is torn apart.
Starting point is 00:51:44 He can't run at all. He can't run. He can only swim. That sounds't run. His cartilage is torn apart. He can't run at all. He can't run. He can only swim. That sounds like me. Dude, he can only swim. He can only swim, but he does a lot of cardio and aerobics and shit. Whatever he's doing is working. He's a savage.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Savage. His mind, I think Kamaru's like 32. Is that right? I don't think he's even that old. Is he 31, 30? I don't think he's 32. He's a fucking prime. And the fact that that Colby fight
Starting point is 00:52:05 was all stand-up. All stand-up. And Colby hit him with hammers. They both hit each other, but at the end Kamaru took over. That straight right hand that broke his jaw. Kamaru works great, man. He's one of the best of all time. I know it's hard to say that when the guys
Starting point is 00:52:21 only defended the title once, won the title against one of the best in Tyron Woodley. And then, look, Kobe Covington, put away all that trash talk. That guy is a fucking animal. He's a stud. No, no, people want to hate on him. Oh! 3.30, my ass.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Look at this. No wine, no cheese. It's 4.12. 4.12. Oh! I came from Culver City. And where's your bag of wine with cheese? We have wine. I thought he was bringing bag of wine with cheese? We have wine.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I thought he was bringing whiskey. We have whiskey. We have wine. There's no need to bring anything. We thought you were going to be like this. I barely got here. I would have. You missed all the Flat Earth talk.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Ah, shut up. We went deep. You missed the Epstein talk, which was really- Chewing on. We missed this all that. Hey, let me- I'll tell you about the Epstein stuff. Pass that.
Starting point is 00:53:03 The crazy stuff. Pass that. Dude, you're going to trip when you hear the ship After the show Shout out to Meat Eater Whiskey Hey, let me see that, how's that wine? Where's that Buffalo Trace, son? That's a 2010 This is my friend Steve Vanilla's shit
Starting point is 00:53:17 I've had that, it's good stuff Oh, he has his own whiskey? But I need some red wine You can get some wine too, bitch Damn, I like it, we're getting crazy What's up, dawg? Coming off set? Yeah, sir. Yeah. But I need some red wine first. You can get some wine too, bitch. Damn, I like it. We're getting crazy. What's up, dawg? Coming off set?
Starting point is 00:53:27 What's up, buddy? Yeah, coming off set. Sorry about the makeup. Sorry about my skin being all kinds of smooth. At least your hair is thick. You have makeup on now? A little bit. Looks good.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I wiped it off with makeup remover. That's good. Hey, B, but do what Eddie did. Shave your head. But do what Eddie did. Shave your head. I love it. I used to have my head shaved.
Starting point is 00:53:42 So you three dickheads can hang out. I know. I used to have my head shaved. Now I have to Can hang out I know I used to have my head shaved Now I have to It comes to you one day When you're 52 And you're like Fucking here's my towel
Starting point is 00:53:49 He's got great hair though Look at it It's beautiful But when you get to be 52 You're like Fuck barbers And their boring ass conversations Yeah I don't think
Starting point is 00:53:57 You're ever gonna lose your hair right My dad My dad has a thick Fucking silver fox You get older When you get to be in your 50s You care about Comfortable shoes Like you're like Those are get older. When you get to be in your 50s, you care about comfortable shoes. Like, you're like, those are more comfortable.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And who's nice to be around? Who's nice to be around? Yeah. Who's nice to be around? You're fucking right. Who do I enjoy? That is the number one thing in all of life. Who's nice to be around?
Starting point is 00:54:17 Your best times, your biggest smiles, the most excitable times are all when we're having fun. You and I, I mean, think of all the fun times we've had our whole lives. The most fun times is being around your friends laughing. I was looking through some old pictures from the mid-2000s. Shit. Bro, it's better than anything in life. Vegas. Having fun with your friends.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Laughing. It's the best. Getting baked. Going to see movies. We don't have meals enough, though. No, we don't. We should have more meals together. And that's a huge tragedy.
Starting point is 00:54:41 We should be having meals together. You're right. And also having friends you can check in with. Like, I'll call. Every time I see him, we check in. How about when I text you and I talk about something serious? I'll just touch the water. I'll go, yo.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And I'm like, somebody needs to talk. Yeah. It's the most important thing in life is fun. Yeah. All that other stuff is nonsense, man. And friends. That skiing video you did on Instagram the other day that's one of the best you've ever done ever
Starting point is 00:55:06 that skiing one was great he has a million of them you just don't do them I got so many hits from that or that one I did with my kids with Utah thing
Starting point is 00:55:14 I got 2.4 million you never know what's going to go you stop doing them it's the weirdest shit you still do way more and they kill I'm doing way more now
Starting point is 00:55:23 my favorite ones you do when you lie on bed With an iPad On each side of your head Oh my god Those are great You have three arguments For yourself
Starting point is 00:55:29 Those are great Those I gotta do When you're doing dance How much time do those take? It takes a while It took a while But then I would just like Time it
Starting point is 00:55:35 The best one was when I was like Yeah let's go Let's go drink Let's go hang Let's bang guys What? Let's hang five No you said bang guys
Starting point is 00:55:44 You know why he stopped doing them? You know why you stopped doing them you know why you stopped doing them you stopped doing the road because your tv show that's why that's part of you were doing them you were getting bored in the hotel room it's just that you're trying when you're trying to write stand up you're trying to do other things there's a limit to what you can like sometimes those things just just happen yeah the main thing is not to worry about not writing i worry about not writing and it fucks up my other stuff do you ever do that like where you're like i gotta write i'm gonna come up with something i just write like i brush my teeth yeah i write yeah dude i come i have a whole thing i do now i don't even write in my student my office anymore i write all at home
Starting point is 00:56:18 and i write at night when i'm high coming home from the store so i come home from the store everyone's asleep Spark up a joint Pet my dog Maybe make an espresso And just sit in front of the laptop For an hour and a half Maybe two hours at the most That's all I need
Starting point is 00:56:31 Two in the morning? Yep Then what time you get up? Seven Gangster That's all you need though Yeah but You don't sleep much?
Starting point is 00:56:38 Sometimes I go back to bed No I mean if I I go I get up to let my kids out And say goodbye On their way to school And then if I'm feeling good I'll go work out then if I'm feeling good, I'll go work out. But if I'm feeling like shit, I'll go back to sleep.
Starting point is 00:56:49 And I'll sleep for another two hours. So those are the days where I'll only lift or I'll do cardio or something like that. But the other days I'm doing yoga. Hey, B, he eats only meat right now. You know that? Dude, I'm on a full carnivore diet. Of course he is because Joe likes to be trendy. No, it's not trendy.
Starting point is 00:57:05 No, he's not trendy. Joe's lost seven pounds. Joe's an extremist. No, there's a bunch of people. He's extreme for sure. But I did it for an experiment. Moderation's not in his middle name. I knew Cal had hate on it.
Starting point is 00:57:17 You want to hear an Aztec death whistle? Sure. Oh my God. It sounds like death. It's not very good. Dude Dude that sounds Sounds like you're blowing That sounds like You ever seen this Watch this How does he do it
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah Whatever Apparently the Aztecs That was only my second time Wait which way Is it this way That way yeah yeah I think you gotta cup it
Starting point is 00:57:45 Suck on it though Suck on it Callum Suck it in So they would The Aztecs when they were Taunting the enemy They would do that On the hillside
Starting point is 00:57:52 Like while they were Camped out and sleeping They would keep them up All night Psychologically fuck with them Jesus Christ Thousands of them at a time Blowing that death whistle
Starting point is 00:57:59 That's scary Let them know Death's coming Not very smart It sounds like someone He's already An expert death whistler Dude it's good Oh look at this Let him know death's coming. It sounds like someone he's yelling. Already an expert death whistle. Dude, it's good.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Oh, look at this. You think that was some Indians? Is this guy going to do it for us? You think that was some Indians who are like, dude, maybe that's not a good idea. Let's sneak up on him. No, man. Is this guy an Aztec? They would stay on the outside edges, especially in the old bow and arrow days.
Starting point is 00:58:22 You could fuck with people because they can only hit you so far away. Is he blowing the Aztec whistle? You're a hundred yards... Sounds like a demon. That Aztec has some titties. Listen to that. It sounds like demons. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:58:40 That's scary as fuck, dude. Now imagine a thousand half-naked warriors that are definitely going to kill you. And they're screaming that from the hillside. Hopefully they'll have titties like that guy. Oh, shit. This is bad luck. This is bad luck.
Starting point is 00:58:58 No, no, no. We're the warriors. Okay. Okay. You're going to conjure a demon. You're also going to blow out your asshole. I know. This is like one of those, you know. to conjure a demon. You're also going to blow out your asshole. I know. This is like one of those, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:08 This is a bad idea. Evil Dead movies. That was scary, man. Right? Well, they would do that to scare the fuck out of their enemy. Jesus. Dude. Hard times.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Hard times made hard men. It's weird that I had no energy coming here, and now I get here, and I have so much energy. I know. That's what I'm saying. It's called bro energy. It's bro energy. As we get here, and I have so much energy. I know. That's what I'm saying. It's called bro energy. It's bro energy. As we get older, we cherish this. Fun times are like the best times.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Everything else is nonsense. Fuck. It's family and fun times. You don't want to waste time. Yeah. But then there's stuff you have to do that's not fun, but ensures that the fun times will continue. True.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Like discipline, exercise, work. You got to put in the time. You got to hustle. If you don't hustle, you're not going to enjoy the fun times. You got to hustle. Two states. True Like discipline Exercise Work You gotta put in the time You gotta hustle If you don't hustle You're not gonna enjoy The fun times You gotta hustle Two states
Starting point is 00:59:48 Two states Tranquility And excitement Yeah like How we are right now Like having fun You really can only Do this correctly
Starting point is 00:59:54 If you're not worried About some shit Like if you have Some other stuff That you should be handling But you're not You're blowing some things off Yep
Starting point is 01:00:01 You know your daughter Has a recital or some shit You know you're supposed To be there. Yes. You want to hang with your boys. That'll fuck with your head, right? Dude, have you seen the Kevin Hart doc?
Starting point is 01:00:09 No, I have not. It's so good. You guys are in it. I love it. Super inspiring, man. Fuck. He's an inspiring guy. Dude, you watch it and you're like, holy fuck.
Starting point is 01:00:17 How is Joe? Whatever you think you're doing. What did he do? The podcast. Oh. When he was on here talking. It's cool. He's an intense guy.
Starting point is 01:00:23 He's great. Driven. You want to talk about A driven motherfucker His whole thing is Yeah he wants to be A billionaire Okay
Starting point is 01:00:30 But it's like When's enough dude When's enough I don't know He's in this like Huge crib in Calabasas And he's like You know I just
Starting point is 01:00:37 Gotta do this And this I'm like I looked at my girl I go When is enough dude Well it's never Going to be enough
Starting point is 01:00:41 Robert Downey Jr. Was here the other day And he was talking about it. He was saying, there's a certain beauty in no one when hanging out. He was on your podcast? Yeah. Robert Downey Jr.? Was it yesterday?
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yesterday. Tuesday. Is it out yet? You have to post it next week when his movie comes out. Is it out yet? Holy shit. It comes out next week. How good was that?
Starting point is 01:00:57 He was amazing. He's brilliant. How long was it? Really fun guy. He's a big MMA fan. Yeah, a little short. He had to go somewhere. About an hour and a half.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Damn. What was he saying? Was he referring to Iron Man fan. Yeah, a little short. He had to go somewhere. About an hour and a half. Damn. What was he saying? Was he referring to Iron Man? Yeah, about that, but also about everything. He's talking about great people that have learned when to step aside. We were talking about Joe Walsh doing that. We talked about some people just knowing when to just relax a little.
Starting point is 01:01:21 It's a beautiful thing. Step back a little. It's hard to – we're talking about good times. Those are the most important things but we're all public right we're four very public people and when you're very public person professionally you stepping aside almost seems like you're losing something yeah like you're like you just going back to a state of regular existence seems like you're giving up or something. Right. Because it's so difficult in the beginning to get good at it and also to get famous and to get successful that it becomes an obsession. And once you achieve it, anything less than that is somehow or another not desirable, even if it would be a happier state for you.
Starting point is 01:02:00 And so you get caught up in the game that you've created in order for you to become successful so even when you're like kevin hart who's got massive amounts of riches and massive international fame still isn't satisfied yeah still has new goals new and maybe that's just how he doesn't he enjoys it or maybe with someone like me i will will tell you for sure, that would not be the case. That would be me being on an addictive path and not being objective or introspective. Me just going hogwash. Because I don't operate like – Kevin seems to enjoy it, though. See, with him, I wouldn't say it's the same thing. Because I think he genuinely gets a real positive impact out of achieving.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And then also, I think he has a really good sense of how much he inspires people. Yeah, he wants to make real changes in his community and all that. He's got so many plans. My only thing is when I see those schedules and I know you have kids, I have a busy schedule compared to a lot of these other guys. I'm like, God, you know what I'm saying? When are you there with the kiddos, man? It's tough.
Starting point is 01:03:03 You're shooting these movies. You're doing this I bet he brings the kids with him And has tutors He does I've been on set with him He brings his kids You can
Starting point is 01:03:10 He talks about it in documentary Think about tutoring They're not on every Being on a set The ones I was on I was on two sets with him He had his kids there Being on a set
Starting point is 01:03:19 Most of the time You're not doing shit You have a lot of time To hang out with people Yeah I brought my family When I did Here Comes the Boom We hung around So it's like most of the day you're just hanging around you know what though one of the things i noticed that you have to avoid is as people get older and i've
Starting point is 01:03:33 i've been around some pretty pretty successful older people of late one of the things that i notice is that they're generally afraid of losing their relevance and their usefulness and their impact because if you've been impactful yeah that's what that is you know that's why i'm not talking about those guys but i'm just saying what i notice is don't you think those guys and i don't mention names but those guys that you've been hanging not though not i'm actually not talking about me neither i know who you're talking about but don't you think to get to a certain level of fame and success, there has to be some sort of narcissism? So that never really goes away.
Starting point is 01:04:09 So that's what they're worried about losing, right? I don't know. For me, I was actually talking not about Stallone and- Me neither. I was talking about these- I've been around, you know, just around- You get older and you're around people who are just old. De Niro?
Starting point is 01:04:24 De Niro? And I noticed- No, I never met him, but you notice, you just notice that as you get older, you don't get more secure unless you work at it like anything else. If anything, you might get more insecure because you're dying and you start to feel like you're losing your relevance, your strength, your power, all that stuff. So a lot of it is learning, I think what Robert Downey Jr. was saying, that beauty of kind of learning how to step off and realize it's okay. Yeah, but then he also just did Dr. Doolittle, so take it easy. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I think that's why he did it. That's ideal. I think that's why he did it. You know, you just got to step back. Meanwhile, don't miss my movie. Meanwhile, Dr. Doolittle, this Thursday. Dude, you are Iron Man. How dare you, bro?
Starting point is 01:05:04 Didn't Iron Man 4 just come out? Yeah. Spoiler alert, he dies. Dude, you are Iron Man. How dare you, bro? Didn't Iron Man 4 just come out? Yeah. What are we on now? Spoiler alert, he dies. Is it 3? He dies. No, it wasn't Iron Man.
Starting point is 01:05:10 It's Avengers. I don't watch them, but I knew that. I do think there's narcissism involved in a lot of really successful people. You mean all of us?
Starting point is 01:05:17 You mean all of us? For sure there's some of it. It's about you. It's a one-man show sometimes. It's an element that you can put together with a lot of other elements in proper controls and you can's a one man show sometimes It's an element That you can put together With a lot of other elements
Starting point is 01:05:26 In proper controls And you can make a very useful engine It's whether or not You use that element wisely Or whether you not Let that element overwhelm the recipe Where the element is more More potent
Starting point is 01:05:39 And has more control Than reason and logic And objectivity And kindness And camaraderie and all the other good elements it consumes you i just wanted to be i just i was terrified of being a failure you gotta like when people admire you you're right when people admire your work and admire what you've done you gotta like that and you like that feeling that you get from people and then you work
Starting point is 01:06:00 harder wouldn't you say a big part of uh males drive to be successful there's a big part you want like the best looking girl you want to be significant you want to be power yeah you want to be adored because guys don't ever get that gay guys you gotta get the same thing and so when you get that and then you start getting old and now it's it's it's uh well your whole life you wanted it yeah because now you're falling apart and dwindling away. Not me, baby. But you get to a point, it's true, but I think you get to a point where a lot of what you were chasing
Starting point is 01:06:34 when you were younger was a sensation, a physical sensation of some kind. Even if it's like the adoration of crowds and stuff, and then maybe as you get older you go, there's got to be – that's maybe why people as they get older get a little bit more, quote-unquote, spiritual, a little bit more – It's scared and tired too. Well, that might be it.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Scared and tired. Scared and tired together makes a – Religious. Hilarious. Scared and tired. What a terrible combo. Makes for a religious person. What a terrible combo, man.
Starting point is 01:07:05 But it is, man. I know this dude, when he was younger, was never- Get Brian a hit of that. I gotta have a- I love tequila. Get Brian a hit of that. I'm a tequila guy. Take a hit of that.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Tequila. There's no tequila. We have whiskey and- I'm talking about those fucking weed. I don't know. Uber? We got sex tonight. Dude, do it.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Get that blunt with us. My daddy's gotta drive. So do I. Take that blunt. My daddy can't drive. Get that blunt. Uber. It's a mild marijuana.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Take an Uber. It's barely psychoactive. I'm a pussy. You say that. I was high for six hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we're going to work on that. You need to get high more often, I think.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I think it would help you a lot. Yeah. Dude, I remember I never get high before I do STEM. I remember I was in the green room with you, and I forget who else. And I was like, oh, I'm like these guys. I already did one set. It went well. I'm like, I'm like Joe. I can handle this
Starting point is 01:07:45 I do a set And I go out there And just ate Complete dick I have a method To my madness The method is When I'm high
Starting point is 01:07:51 I will occasionally allow Especially when I'm comfortable With the material I'll allow a complete Different breach of thought So like my thought If I'm doing a bit Especially if it's a bit
Starting point is 01:08:02 That I've done a bunch Of times before And I know how it's structured I'm in the middle of something, I'll allow myself a part where I go, why do we do that? Who's the first guy who said, dude,
Starting point is 01:08:13 this is the best way to do it. That doesn't make any sense. And those things come a lot of times from weed. Yeah, but you're a 30-year vet. But I do it on purpose, is my point. I do it because I'm trying to allow myself these little weird pathways. And every now and then, there's a big part of one of the bits that I have that absolutely came from that. And right now, it's one of the best parts of the bits.
Starting point is 01:08:35 It came from me being baked, joking around about this one particular subject that I already had a bit about on stage. And then, boom, it just comes out. I have a different theory about you I'd love to hear it well I think that weed is really good for you because it makes you less defensive because you naturally have this
Starting point is 01:08:55 you're always looking for you're looking for the predator in the group and you gotta be ready I think weed brings that down so it allows you to have a different perspective like a more of a rounded perspective as opposed to a linear perspective of looking for that motherfucker that might get at you it might be that just so deep it makes me think that so deep it makes me more more vulnerable and more introspective right and it
Starting point is 01:09:21 makes it but it also makes me more curious like weed makes me curious I'm always curious but weed makes me curious in the moment like deeply curious where I'll allow myself to think about things in a way that I never thought about it before when you're on stage and you're making up bits like you know you have a bit it's kind of on Bambi legs it's real fresh and you're still trying to figure out what the beats are when you're high man it's like though it's like they come to you sometimes. Like there's someone that says, say applesauce.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Say applesauce. And then boom, applesauce comes out. I almost hear the word sometimes. You know, and it only happens if you're comfortable. It only happens
Starting point is 01:09:57 if you're doing a shitload of sets. There's a lot of factors. I know I'm a little high, but I am dying to hear the next door neighbor of Epstein. I can't stop thinking about it. After the show. All right. Oh, after the show. God. It's not'm a little high, but I am dying to hear the next door neighbor of Epstein. I can't stop thinking about it. After the show. It's not like a celebrity or anything.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Why do you like these conspiracy theories so much? But you don't get into them. Someone asked me why I was a conspiracy theorist. It was an interview. They were asking some jujitsu interview. Why are you a conspiracy theorist? And I said, why isn't everybody a goddamn conspiracy theorist? We all know, why isn't everybody a goddamn conspiracy theorist?
Starting point is 01:10:25 We all know the government lies. But you'll like this. And then you believe official stories? Doesn't make any sense. But you'll like this. That's not logic. This venture capitalist,
Starting point is 01:10:33 she deals with like the billionaires and she goes, you know, there's these ideas that, you know, people, all these billionaires
Starting point is 01:10:40 get together and then they figured out the world. This is what we're going to do this year and they leave, you know. the skulls she goes she goes let me tell you why that's complete bullshit like the idea that the powerful get together and if they come up with a plan let him talk let him talk so he goes she goes i tried to schedule a dinner with five billionaires five and they the reason they're billionaires is because they're super competitive
Starting point is 01:11:05 and they fucking hate their other competitors. She goes, I couldn't get five of them to sit at a table because one dude had fucked the other guy's ex-wife, the other guy was suing the other guy, the other guy was trying to take over the other guy's business. But the bottom line is she's in the outskirts. There you go. Proof.
Starting point is 01:11:20 No Illuminati. No, it's because human beings who are super competitive and very successful are usually out. No, no. It's because human beings who are super competitive and very successful are usually at odds. Gentlemen, please. Stop for a second. If there was a fucking lady who wanted to make a lunch with us,
Starting point is 01:11:32 we wouldn't go. No, no, no. This was for business. This was all in there to get together for a podcast. He's got evidence. You helped his argument, Callan. You helped his argument.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I knew a chick. She's trying to bet a couple billion. It's a whole thing. They're hating each other. Baby. They're hating each other. She's trying to bet a couple billion. It's a little baby. They're hating each other. She's a venture capitalist.
Starting point is 01:11:48 It was one of the worst arguments. You fucked this. You should have said he was a venture capitalist before. We didn't know. He did. She was a venture capitalist who could get all of them individually. You took lighter fluid. She dealt with all of them individually.
Starting point is 01:12:00 She knew them very well. All of them. You just turned 17 people into flat earthers. 17 people listening. can't bang billionaires it looks like they wouldn't all do it dude that was the greatest evidence ever. The dumbest story you've ever told. You are so attracted. You can't get that many powerful people in a room because they all hate each other. I don't trust her. You are so attracted to the official story.
Starting point is 01:12:33 It's adorable. I definitely don't trust her, Calum. You bought the dumbest version of it I've ever heard. There's no Illuminati. There's a lady trying to get these guys together for lunch. They wouldn't do it. Case closed. And that was the end of the Illuminati myth.
Starting point is 01:12:48 I'll get the podcast. Have you ever seen the Bohemian Grove footage where Alex Jones filmed all these elites dressing up like druids and worshipping the owl god Moloch? That's real, dude. They really do that. But what are you eye-rolling on the phone?
Starting point is 01:13:04 I'm eye-rolling that the you I roll doesn't control the world because nobody's that organized well maybe they're not but did you see me and grow thing that is absolutely 100% real no it's not so what Brian it's people dressing up like wizards let's saying some weird control shit it's weird burning an effigy in front of an owl god. Same with Burning Man. Bro, this is so different than Burning Man. It's the government.
Starting point is 01:13:29 It's people at the highest levels of banks. It's all these different famous people. There's a bunch of crazy, really rich, influential people that went to that Bohemian Grove and dressed up like druids and they chanted things. Have you ever seen it? Yeah, I saw it. You are. Yeah, I saw it.
Starting point is 01:13:43 He hasn't seen it. He hasn't seen it. I'm sorry. He hasn't seen it. He just doesn't want you to put it on. I? Yeah, I saw it. You are. You haven't seen it. He hasn't seen it. I'm sorry. He hasn't seen it. I saw it. I saw it. I did see it because you were talking about it and I didn't believe it. What do you mean you didn't believe it? John Ronson was there. John Ronson is 100% credible journalist. Whatever you might think about anybody else that was there,
Starting point is 01:13:59 different people that have made YouTube videos on it, John Ronson is legit as they come, straight down the middle, very intelligent. What do you think they're doing there? Are they planning the world? I think they're doing a thing the same way they do the Skull and Bones, where they get together and they have a group where they all become a part of this group early on
Starting point is 01:14:15 and they feel some kinship, just like the Freemasons. Oh, that makes sense, yeah. Just like a lot of people, but this is very extreme. They're chanting crazy shit and they're putting hoods on and they're burning an effigy that's supposed to be a sacrificial person. But it's straw in a bundle. Can you imagine doing that?
Starting point is 01:14:29 They talk about the owl god Moloch. These are multi-millionaires. Do you know who Marina Abramovic is? Of course he doesn't. Now you do. Yeah, I do. But Brian, you didn't in that one we were texting.
Starting point is 01:14:39 But your initial reaction is not objective. Your initial reaction is not, you're like, No, I don't believe. That is a crazy thing. I know, but I just don't believe Your initial reaction is not objective. Your initial reaction is not, you're like. No, I don't believe. That is a crazy thing. I know, but I just don't believe that. I don't believe the rich and powerful are organized enough to actually get together and create a cabal.
Starting point is 01:14:57 I think they're all competitive. How do you think they're so rich? Let me give you a two-step here. Do you believe the footage from Behavian Grove? There really was these heads of banks and heads of state. You believe that, right? And they're all together, right? So wouldn't they talk about business?
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah. Well, that's probably how they do it. This is probably what it's all about. It's probably not as nefarious as we like to think. It's their fight campaign. How do you think they got so rich? By being lazy? Of course they're organized. But they become a team with all the other people that are like them.
Starting point is 01:15:23 They do things like influence special interest groups. That's what they do. They go, why don't you send a billion dollars of aid over to my country? And I'll send another billion over to yours. That's what's going on. That's what we're talking about. Look at this. This is the hidden footage that John Ronson and Alex Jones got from Bohemian Grove in
Starting point is 01:15:40 the fucking late 90s. I was going to say, how old is this shit? Was it early 2000s or something? Pretty cloudy. Shut the fuck up. You can hear them. They're lighting things on fire. The moloch, the aloe guy.
Starting point is 01:15:50 It's a corn concert. They're saying all this crazy shit. It's a corn concert. Put the volume on it so you can hear it. Jamie got that. Listen to the volume. Listen to this shit. So they have music.
Starting point is 01:16:03 They're in the woods, dude. But give me the volume of them talking. And they're in the woods dude But give me Give me the volume Of them talking And they're in camping What do you think is going on It's a two hour documentary Oh it's a two hour documentary
Starting point is 01:16:09 The richest people in the world Control us Oh okay okay It's dude And other people It's super simple It's like the mob As simple as it gets
Starting point is 01:16:15 But there's pictures of like Ronald Reagan there Like people have been there forever They've been going there Since the beginning of time This is one of those things Where rich powerful people Get together and go Hey we're all on the same team.
Starting point is 01:16:26 People like to be protected. It's where they do it there, though. It's in the middle of California, in the middle of the woods. You've got to go through a guard checkpoint. And I have in this area the same area. I have a friend who's a producer who got in with one of the biggest producers of all time for a while. I don't want to say any names, but he was in that crew there. There's this producer, and he's got this crew of all these different people in his crew to produce shit.
Starting point is 01:16:54 It's like a little gang, and it's a top guy. Everybody knows this one. Sure. He was involved in a little—he was like a new recruit. Yeah. And they went to a city by Bulimian Grove. One road, no one has access to it unless you're part of this
Starting point is 01:17:08 group. And it's a big-ass city. He goes, it's like you're in some Middle East, like Abu Dhabi, Prince city where everything is paved and just, it's insane. He went there. Here's what I think.
Starting point is 01:17:23 This city's hidden. Here's my thing. You can fly over it. It's in Northern California. One of these clubs reach out to Joe out of the four. I'm just telling you
Starting point is 01:17:31 what I heard. I'm just telling you what I heard. Someone's going to reach out and be like, dude, you shouldn't come to our fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:17:35 They know they can't control Joe. That's why he's not a big movie star because they know they can't control him. He doesn't want to be a movie star.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Here's what I think. I think that the rich and powerful get together. If they gave you a hundred million, you would. I don't want to act. If someone said, I'm going to give you a hundred million you would I don't want to act no if someone said
Starting point is 01:17:45 I'm going to give you a hundred million to be in a movie with The Rock we'll talk later I would do it I love The Rock I'd do it just to hug him
Starting point is 01:17:50 but here's what I think I think the rich and powerful get together and have these like they go to they go to they go to dinner they go to retreats
Starting point is 01:17:56 you know why I think they do it a couple things they get to fuck they get to do drugs nobody's looking and that's where Epstein came into place
Starting point is 01:18:03 that's where Epstein came in where Ep Correct. That's where Epstein came in. That's what I think. Where Epstein came in was they all thought that they were protected. They all thought that this guy who has these intelligence connections, who's a benefactor of science, he loves to spend money on science, and he would donate money to their causes, and they were all together. And he was banging these girls, and so I'll bang them too. Sure.
Starting point is 01:18:21 And then they go to an island, so they think they're fine. And they're being videotaped. You're being videotaped, and you're also being used to influence policy and influence. That I believe. Yes. I think that people. That's what's going on. I believe he could very well have been an entity of a intelligence agency like CIA, like the
Starting point is 01:18:37 Messiah. All of them. All of them. I have to pee already. Damn, you're peeing before all of us. What? I drank a lot of water today. This is the first.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Okay, while he's gone, do not ask me about- I'm drinking gallons of water on this stupid diet. Don't let him get off the rails. Don't- Yeah, no flatter. I gotta hear about the next one. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Eddie, you've been restrained, man. No, no, you- Dude, you missed the whole thing. No, you missed the whole thing. It was fantastic. Come on, on. I live for this. Wait, I thought we were going to watch classic fights or something.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Yeah, you came too late, dude. So we decided to do government shit. watch classic fights or something yeah he came too late dude so we decided to do government shit brendan subscribe to the youtube channel x22 report i'm right right now x20 horrible name but i'll do it just listen to them that you want to know what's going on that's what's going on and also listen to uh subscribe to one at a time x X-22. Report. All right. And then the Dan Bongino show. Dan Bongino. He's fucking awesome. He does jujitsu too.
Starting point is 01:19:29 He's legit. Dan Bongino. You know I'm training with Higgin. I'm on it. He reports. You want to know what's really going on in D.C.? Listen to Dan Bongino on X-22. That's what's really going on.
Starting point is 01:19:38 All the shit that's going on right now, we knew about this shit two years ago. Say no more, fam. People were giving up on Q because they're like, when is this shit gonna come out and then finally it came out all this stuff we know all the players if you pay attention it's just like game of thrones all this shit it's new to some people what about um uh analytica what was that cambridge analytica that found out that the they were basically like youtube has an algorithm like if you if you look up conspiracy theories you're gonna start getting they're gonna start curating the algorithm pushes you in that that they were basically, like YouTube has an algorithm. If you look up conspiracy theories, you're going to start getting,
Starting point is 01:20:06 they're going to start curating. The algorithm pushes you in that direction. That's everything, though. Right? Even politics. If you're a Democrat, you're going to get all the information. And what was happening was-
Starting point is 01:20:15 You're right. There is two sides. That's the algorithm of YouTube. There's two sides, and they're polar opposite. One is right, one is wrong. So it's really easy to figure out which one's right and wrong.
Starting point is 01:20:23 You just got to figure out for sure who's full of shit. Let see who's for sure where's it coming from hillary clinton's full of shit for sure uh cnn's full of shit for sure so uh uh uh joe biden full of shit for sure adam schiff full of shit for sure so you know what out of those four people they're all saying the exact same thing and they're all full of shit and who else is saying the exact same thing cnn msnbc so we already know okay so by process of elimination you know that shit can't be and they're all full of shit and who else is saying the exact same thing? CNN, MSNBC. So we already know, okay, so by process of elimination, you know that shit can't be real. But you sound like
Starting point is 01:20:50 Tucker Carlson right now. What about Tucker Carlson? There's two sides. You got to pick one side. Dude, pick a side. One side is Tucker Carlson and one side is Hillary Clinton. No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:20:58 No, you pick a side. There's two sides. I told you, don't let him get off the rails. No, but there's not two sides. I don't have to go all the way No, there's three. No, there's three.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Give him one more. There's three types of people. The first one, people that think Hillary good, Trump bad. Where you at? The second people, the second type of person is people who think Trump good, Hillary bad. And then there's the third type that think both of them are bad. No, no, there's also nuance. No, you'd be the third.
Starting point is 01:21:23 There's only three. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys you'd be the fourth there's only three guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys we gotta stop talking to each other no i'm just this is you can't do this is murder on people's ears okay okay see you have good ears i'm done you guys been in the business too long you should know this you know who dan bongino is he does jujitsu dan bongino he he's uh he's got his own podcast he does youtube dude okay youtube guy um he sometimes does does shit on fox news too um he's awesome you ever listen to him no never okay well if you're ever interested in uh a different side of what's going on there's only really two sides in dc there's only two sides in dc there's the side that that believes adam schiff and then there's the other side.
Starting point is 01:22:06 So for sure, Adam Schiff got in front of Congress and made up that phone call. That Trump phone call, the call that this whole impeachment's about, he gets up in front of Congress after Trump released the transcript of the Congress. Trump said,
Starting point is 01:22:22 hey, look into Biden. He's fucking on video talking shit about withholding a billion dollars and uh to ukraine and aid if they don't fire the prosecutor that's looking out that's going after his son and he's on video saying this so trump says look into that shit and so now trump is getting impeached for uh uh getting the ukraine to dig up dirt on biden Not the crime. They're not even concerned about the crime. That's the Biden. So instead of the actual phone call,
Starting point is 01:22:49 the transcript, politics as usual. So Schiff goes, he pretends he's reading the transcript. He says, oh, this, it went something like this.
Starting point is 01:22:57 And then he starts reading, goes, listen, I want you to, I'm only going to tell you this seven times. And seven, you better listen up. Good.
Starting point is 01:23:04 If you don't, exactly like that. If you don't, just like a gangster. I'm only going to tell you this seven times. And seven, you better listen up good. You said it that way? Exactly like that. If you don't dig up dirt. Is it good shit? Just like a gangster. And he goes, if you don't dig up dirt. Is there a recording of this? Yes, find it.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Is it Liam Neeson? Jamie, have you ever heard of it? This is a good impression of shit. Find it. There's a recording of it, but I don't know that it had that tone of voice. You know the way you're going to find it? Listen, the only way you're going to find it, the only way you're going to find it is if you go to YouTube, they hide everything, right?
Starting point is 01:23:25 So what you do is the workaround is you go to DuckDuckGo and in their little space bar put site, S-I-T-E, semicolon, YouTube.com, and then whatever you want. And then it brings up everything. I started using DuckDuckGo for searches. It's the best. Because you don't want them saving the show? Because if you just go to Google, when I would go to Google, my Google app, I'd start reading news and it would just take me on a fucking rabbit hole. And I'd be like a half an hour later, just sitting on the toilet, my legs are numb.
Starting point is 01:23:57 I'm like, what am I doing here? I live for that, man. Instead, DuckDuckGo, I just go right to it and it gives you the opportunity to erase all of your history instantly. DuckDuckGo. Dude, DuckDuckGo, I just go right to it, and it gives you the opportunity to erase all of your history instantly. DuckDuckGo. Dude, DuckDuckGo is great. I heard about it from some article on the internet. They were talking about how it's one of the best in terms of privacy and protecting your privacy.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Oh, interesting. One of the best search apps. But what I like about it is it just searches for what I'm looking for. Exactly. It doesn't give you a bunch of ideas. It doesn't shadow ban shit. So what you do, again, S-I-T-E semicolon YouTube.com or whatever website you want
Starting point is 01:24:29 and then space and then whatever the search was. It's not too much if you're looking for the truth. I never go to Google. It's never too much for the truth. Right. I got DuckDuckGo ready to go
Starting point is 01:24:38 anytime I want to search something. On YouTube, I go to DuckDuckGo because if you go to YouTube and you could print, you could type out the exact title of the video and the author and that shit won't come up. They hide that shit.
Starting point is 01:24:48 They're hiding everything, dude. How is it that there's only one YouTube? In 2001. There's BitchTube. There's EllenTube. What? Ellen went, oh, YouTube,
Starting point is 01:24:59 you're just going to make money off me? I'm going to start my own channel. She started EllenTube. You can't. Excuse me? What did you say, Bob? Hold on. You can't make
Starting point is 01:25:08 a conspiracy video and put it up on EllenTube, though, can you? No, but what I'm saying is EllenTube went, no, no, no, YouTube, you're not getting
Starting point is 01:25:14 all my content. You're missing the point. Oh, where are you missing the point? Well, there's RedTube. No, no, no. The ability to just be a regular person
Starting point is 01:25:20 and upload something that millions of people are going to see, it's amazing that there's really only one of those. There's Vimeo. It's amazing that there's really only one of those. There's Vimeo. The problem is that there's very few people that are controlling all the information.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Exactly. Not anymore. Facebook. Yeah. Apple. Now you're getting it, Brian. Yes. Microsoft.
Starting point is 01:25:34 And Amazon. It's very few people, and that's a major problem. You know what we're seeing is they have the ability to wipe shit out off the internet, too. They know how to do that. You know the one thing? Well, and you know what else is a problem with that is that sometimes you get people that the top the upper echelon can't even control that you know there was a an article about how cnn the upper management who
Starting point is 01:25:54 are older and a little bit more moderate we're looking they had a meeting with their young journalists and they're like you guys are so hard in the pain against trump in every way that we're losing viewership because there's zero there's absolutely zero uh balance here yeah i mean you did if it's so unbelievable like i don't even listen i know i know exactly what i'm gonna get if i go either to fox or i go when you turn on your phone your iphone iphone's connected to that every news headline is negative on trump because it's every single one. It's opinion. It's not opinion.
Starting point is 01:26:26 It's like strategic. Let's get this motherfucker. That's what they're saying. There's an agenda. There's an agenda. It's not opinion. Yeah, but people are hip to that. It's an agenda, Brian. It's strategic.
Starting point is 01:26:34 People are hip to it. What people are doing is they're going, I know for a fact when I look at Huffington Post or I look at CNN. Or Washington Post. Yeah, I'm going to get a biased a biased i'm not gonna get objective news what sells now orange man bad please what sells now is if you are a pundit if you are a if you're whoever you are you have a show like don lemon or hannity or what sells you have to you're you're beholden to your ratings it's infotainment so you have to speak to your base their base is gone
Starting point is 01:27:06 they'll be you know they're fucking themselves yeah like because all they do is losing all their but there's still a lot there's still a giant market so everyone says they're losing there's no ratings are trend yeah most people out there ratings are highly inaccurate they don't really understand them you know how nielsen's work they barely know who the fuck i agree it's so bad and they can't really 100% Like with streaming services What's weird is like
Starting point is 01:27:28 Netflix controls all their things When you do a special on Netflix They don't tell you shit I have no idea You don't have a problem with that? That's not weird to you? They give you a lot of money Like go ahead
Starting point is 01:27:37 But if they're giving you But here's my thinking But the thing is They give you a lot of money But I should be getting more right? I don't know It's a good argument But they control everything
Starting point is 01:27:45 They control the whole network All of it So ratings are nonsense They don't give a fuck They know what's popular and what's not So what's popular rises to the top Like Stranger Things And what's not they start cancelling
Starting point is 01:27:56 It's entirely up to them It's weird from a point of an artist or creator Because you don't really have any leverage Other than the public zeitgeist Whether or not your thing's out there it isn't it isn't but the weird thing is like the rating system they have now is it's like either you get no ratings where they have all the information or you get the rating system now it's like what is the nielsen family i mean we've done this before they did like a hundred thousand fucking people we still use it for schooled
Starting point is 01:28:23 but what they what they find out later is that there are so many other venues that people are watching it on. DVRs. It's huge. It's a giant percentage. Hulu, all these different things. So now we had this major jump, apparently, in the past two weeks. But by the Nielsen ratings, everything stayed the same. But the reporters, I think it was a Hollywood reporter or something,
Starting point is 01:28:45 he was like, no, no, no, no. You guys aren't looking at these other metrics. But it's the same thing with podcasting too. They've redone away how they judge, how they determine the downloads for audio podcasts. Obviously, video,
Starting point is 01:28:58 it is what it is on YouTube. That's easy to see. But for audio, they switched it up. You know what I'm talking about, Jamie? Maybe they switched it completely up. What do you mean talking about, Jamie? They switched it completely up. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:29:11 It used to be a certain, they would take the two-minute download. It's weird. I don't know the ins and outs of it. But they've completely changed for advertising what they consider how many downloads you get. It's completely different. Because you have to listen all the way through or whatever it might be, right? It's just that they do a different number now. It used to be like they used to judge it from minute mark, two minute mark. It's completely different.
Starting point is 01:29:28 I never gave a shit about monetizing my YouTube. Not even from dad. I don't give a shit. That one dude that you worked with, he fucked with it. I never even paid attention. Finally looked back into it. We were collecting no money. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 01:29:39 So if they like demonetize my YouTube channel, I never put any weird shit on there anyways. I feel like you would make money if you did. I don't even care. I don't any weird shit on there anyways. I feel like you would make money if you did. I don't even care. I don't ever want to be, like YouTube, I don't ever want to be dependent on them at all.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Yeah, but you don't have to be dependent. I don't even care. I don't even want to care about it. That money means nothing to me. I'm looking for an alternative. Like, what is the alternative? Bitch shoot?
Starting point is 01:29:59 And Alex Jones got completely wiped off social media, but he's got his own thing now going, band.media. If you go there, people are just starting their own shit. People are going to DLive. And what else is there? Do you know, Jamie? There's got to be an alternative.
Starting point is 01:30:15 This makes bigger and bigger echo chambers is what it does. It's good. It's good because you don't get any dissent. One of the good things about interacting in a YouTube format or a social media format like Twitter or Instagram is a lot of people get to see it. That's bullshit. No, but that's a problem. That's bullshit. But a lot of people get to see it and there's discussion.
Starting point is 01:30:39 When you look into the comments, people are discussing things. They're talking things through. But shadow banning? People are discussing things They're talking things through But shadow banning You go to Once you take it And you go to your own
Starting point is 01:30:46 Personal website Growth stops It gets Very marginal And then the other thing That happens is It becomes an echo chamber The only people
Starting point is 01:30:53 That are tolerated Are the people That are the supporters Of whatever the person is That's right So they don't get Any criticism And then because
Starting point is 01:31:00 Mainstream Or I shouldn't say Mainstream Alternative And competing sites And channels Don't want to feature them, they don't get talked about at all. You need idea sex. You need different ideas clashing. You have to.
Starting point is 01:31:13 You need competition. You need the free flow of debate and ideas, and you have to have discussions, and you have to have people that disagree with each other so that you can see the error of your own ways. If you have an intelligent debate slash discussion with somebody who knows more than you do or has a different but informed point of view, you're going to come out of that conversation different. Yes. You're going to make some growth. You can't. That's what they're afraid of. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:40 They don't want that. Correct. Well, what they want is money. They're not banning the loony left at all. It's because they are the loony left. And they think they're doing the right thing Well, what they want is money. They're not banning the loony left at all. It's because they are the loony left, and they think they're doing the right thing. But what they want is money. I was reading a thing about the head of Google, and he makes something like $2 million a year. But if he hits these performance goals over the next three years, he stands to rake in $240 million in stock.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Jesus. And I was like, well, no wonder why they're ruthless. No wonder why they make these decisions. No wonder why they make these, no wonder why they take down the slogan don't be evil. That was their slogan was don't be,
Starting point is 01:32:10 the slogan was don't be evil. And then they go like, what about for $240 million? Be a little evil. Get a little evil on them. They start thinking about a couple babies.
Starting point is 01:32:19 They start thinking about fucking tailored suits and private jets and champagne and good people. Diamond rings. Yeah, good people will behave corruptly. It's hard, right? Good people. Diamond rings. Yeah, good people will behave corruptly.
Starting point is 01:32:27 That's what happens in Washington. It's just about numbers. Lawrence Lessig said Washington has become a special interest cesspool where good people, if you want to get ahead,
Starting point is 01:32:36 you've got to figure out a way to be. Good people must behave corruptly because it's an economy of influence. But not all of them, though. No. Not all of them
Starting point is 01:32:43 because if they were all corrupt, there would be no reason to suicide anybody. There would be no reason to bribe anybody. There's good people in there. If you fuck up, someone's willing to kill a motherfucker just to avoid you. You don't have to kill people anymore.
Starting point is 01:32:54 There's always good people. You just have to figure out who are the good people. You don't have to kill people anymore. Do you think Kevin Spacey's still killing people? Didn't Epstein just commit suicide? Do you think Kevin Spacey's killing people? No.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Did you see that new video that came out right before the dude suicided himself that accused him of grabbing his dick? Oh, yeah. Isn't it four people now? Is it four? Kill him with kindness. Come on, man. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:33:14 And he's doing it as Frank Underwood. You haven't seen it? No. Oh, my God. And then the guy commits suicide like a week later, right? Dude, that's what I'm talking about. This shit's going on and no one gives a fuck. You know Epstein was-
Starting point is 01:33:24 You don't have to kill people. You don't have to kill people. Well, Epstein- You don't have to. I'm sure you do. No, no on and no one gives a fuck. You know Epstein was... You don't have to kill people. You don't have to kill people. Well, Epstein... You don't have to. Sure you do. No, no, no. You just destroy their reputation. But Epstein...
Starting point is 01:33:29 You can do that too. Brian, slow down. If your reputation is already destroyed, though, like Kevin Spacey, and there's a guy claiming that you grabbed his dick, it might be a good idea to kill him. Watch this a little bit. Give me some volume. He just doesn't want to go to prison, dude. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:33:41 That's all. We've got to avoid prison. Hold on. It's been a pretty good year, and I'm grateful to have my health back. And in light of that, I've made some changes in my life. What a psycho.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Dude, he's MKUltra. You think so? I'd walk into 12. If this ain't MKUltra, it doesn't make sense. More good in this world. Ah, yes. I know what you're thinking. Can he be serious?
Starting point is 01:34:06 I'm dead serious. And it's not that hard, trust me. The next time someone does something you don't like, you can go on the attack, but you can also hold your fire
Starting point is 01:34:17 and do the unexpected. You can kill them with kindness. Whoa! Dude, he put that out and everyone is cool. Everyone's cool. you can kill them with kindness. Whoa. Dude, he put that out, and everyone is cool. Everyone's cool. He's such a good actor. He's such a good actor.
Starting point is 01:34:31 He's not a killer. He didn't kill anybody. I didn't say he killed anybody. I never said he killed anybody. He died a few days later. Did you hear what he just said? And do you know what he's in the middle of? That's not, it's not like.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Hold on, Eddie. Let me ask Brian. It's a different time for Kevin Spacey right now. Hold on. Before we. Hey, B. Hold on. Hold on. He's a different time for Kevin Spacey right now. Hold on. Before we... Hey, B. Maybe the guy killed himself after he watched that video. Hey, B.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Do you think Epstein... He's like a defense attorney. Do you think Epstein committed suicide or was murdered? I don't know what Epstein... Shut the fuck up! I think that... Defense attorney. I totally believe he would kill himself.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Why would he want to be alive? Where is he going to go? I mean, his life is ruined. Do you think he committed suicide? It's very possible. Yeah. How many guys from kevin spacey what are you showing me jay what's going on december 26th yeah that video is posted on the 24th dude rolling stone but here's the thing though that means the guy saw it for two days so for two days he probably on a loop watched this video this guy who grabbed his dick he's like why didn't i just punch him uh bang yeah but he committed suicide because he grabbed his dick he said a lot more issues than that grabbed his dick and said let's go outside and get some air that's it yes i don't
Starting point is 01:35:35 approve it but i'm just saying a whole other life outside of getting his dick grabbed by kevin spacey a lot of people kill themselves that never got their dick grabbed by Kevin Spacey. But the thing is, this guy killed himself two days after Kevin Spacey released that video. It could easily just be a coincidence. It could easily be that the type of guy that Kevin Spacey grabs their dick, they're probably not doing so good in the first place. Wasn't he super young when he grabbed that dick? I don't know. This is a different one. There's many stories. There's a few when he grabbed that dick? I don't know. This is a different one. There's many stories.
Starting point is 01:36:06 There's a few guys he grabbed that dick. He was aggressive with the dick grab. I didn't know he was gay. Here's the thing about it, man. Here's the thing about it. It had to have worked. If he grabbed that many dicks, how many dicks did he grab that all of a sudden these guys would goggle, goggle, goggle?
Starting point is 01:36:17 Yeah, yeah. It's because they don't know. No. Because everybody's so homophobic. I blame homophobic people on Kevin Spacey out there grabbing dicks. I got news for you. I'm kidding. You know how many
Starting point is 01:36:27 home runs he hit? I got news for you. As much of a monster rapist as Harvey Weinstein is, as much of a fucking piece of shit. Made some good movies. He fucked a whole lot.
Starting point is 01:36:36 All that crazy shit he did. Yeah. Or that allowed it where it's consensual. These boys took a lot of swings, hit a lot of home runs.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yes. Hit a lot of home runs. They. Hit a lot of home runs. They had their bag of tricks. That's why Kevin Spacey felt like he could grab dicks because it worked before. Because there's probably some thrilled heterosexual guy who can't believe he's got Kevin Spacey's cock in his mouth. It's like, oh, I can't even tell anybody. What's in the bugs?
Starting point is 01:37:00 Hold on. I can't even tell anybody. Excuse me, sir. Celebrity doesn't cut through your heterosexuality. You understand? It does for a really, really, really dumb person. I would have kissed. I might have kissed Tom Cruise on the mouth just because I was talking for an hour and
Starting point is 01:37:11 a half and I wanted to be his friend so badly. Dude. But that was it. It makes, if you're really, really dumb, a super smart gay guy could talk you into blowing him. Wasn't that a bit like that? How would that go? Jason Momoa could do it.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Hold on. I said a bit where I was always, I said I'm always suspicious of bisexuals because every single one of them I've ever met was a moron. And I have a theory. I don't believe there's really bisexual. I think there's gay dudes and then there's really gullible straight dudes who get talked into blowing crafty gay dudes. Damn, you got it down word for word. That's a great joke. Dude, that was... That's a great joke. Dude, that was...
Starting point is 01:37:45 That's a great joke. There's some dudes you can fucking talk into anything. And then all of a sudden they're like, I'm bi. Like, yeah, Tom says I'm bi. Fucking dick, dude. I'm like, I don't know, bro. Sure, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:57 I'm just obviously just kidding. There's definitely bi people. Look, there's a spectrum. There's people that are asexual. They don't give a fuck about sex. Well, there are guys, yeah. A friend of mine knew a guy who would be like, I'll fuck it.
Starting point is 01:38:10 I'll fuck anybody. Yeah, listen. What are you talking about? He goes, show me the money. You put money on the table. There's not a man or a woman I wouldn't fuck. Yeah, but that's money. I mean, that guy's a whore.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Yeah, well, that guy's a sociopath. He doesn't care. He's just a high-level whore. And he also said, and I'll let anybody fuck me. Okay. Congratulations, Dan. That guy's name was Brian Cowan. Same price.
Starting point is 01:38:31 He was his college. Same price. But I was a college guy. What costs more? I needed the money. But what costs more? Getting fucked or fucking someone? Because if you fuck someone, you've got to get it up.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Can you text him and ask him? If you're so hard, I don't care if you fuck me. Go ahead. Getting fucked. No, you want to fuck me, you got to get it up. Can you text him and ask him? If you're so hard, I don't care if you fuck me. Go ahead. Getting fucked. No, you want to fuck me, that's another 200. Dude, but not practically, Brian. Practically, it'd be harder to fuck a guy. That's like going no condom, another two.
Starting point is 01:38:54 I love that so it's two to two. That's the lesson to fight. Listen, listen, listen. What would be harder to do? Would it be harder to fuck a guy or get fucked by a guy? Oh, dude, it's a terrible question. It's a terrible question. I don't a guy or get fucked by a guy? Oh, dude, it's a terrible question. It's a terrible question. I don't think you should get fucked by a guy unless you're gay.
Starting point is 01:39:09 But if you weren't gay, getting fucked by a guy might be easy. Yeah, I agree. Because how are you going to get it up? You got to get it up. Open that ass. You got to think about what you're doing. And then people say, dude, you had a hard dick. You had a hard dick.
Starting point is 01:39:21 You could always say, my dick was soft. You fucked me in the ass. I had to do it. Yeah, I had to do it. I don't give a fuck. Go ahead. You want to fuck my shit? Shoot.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Go ahead, bro. I know a fighter who will remain nameless who said, he said, we were talking about, he was with his wife, and we were talking about cheating and stuff, and he said, tell him what I do. Tell him what I do. No, his wife goes, hey, tell him what you'd do if you caught me cheating. And he goes, no, tell him. And he goes, well, you know, there's a reason I have Viagra around.
Starting point is 01:39:53 And it's not because I need it for her. And I go, well, do tell. Now I'm all ears. And he goes, well, I would take Viagra, and I would get my dick hard, and I would fuck him in the ass. That takes 45 minutes. In front of her. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:40:09 This guy's a big scary dude, too. He's a heavyweight. He knows who it is. And I was just like, you are amazing. And he was dead serious. I'll tell you who it is next time. That's an interesting way to approach a problem. I bet you could guess.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Okay, we'll talk later. Very impressive, by the way. So, 2019, what did we do to Ben Askren? That was you and me, bro. We had a big part of that. I'm still a fan. I'm a huge fan. That's my quarterback. I'm a huge fan, but three fights in the UFC.
Starting point is 01:40:40 It's a tough go. I think two things happened. One, big time off of competing. Two, big time off of competing. Two, competing in one FC against, it's not the same level of competition, I don't believe, as even he fought in Bellator. Not even close. And then three, the guy's got a fucked up hip. He's also older, though.
Starting point is 01:41:02 People forget, when Ben got to the UFC, he was an older dude. He had a lot of fights. He was older. They didn't get him when he was a young spring chicken. This hip thing is not a new thing. No, man. With all due respect. Please don't disrespect him. No, with all due respect.
Starting point is 01:41:12 With all due respect. As great a grappler as he is, he's simply not a good striker, and he's not close to a striker that you need to be in the UFC. He just isn't. Maybe I'm blind, but if you're going to tell me that Ben Askren is a… No one's going to argue this, Brandon. Right. So you can't be in the UFC without being that well-rounded.
Starting point is 01:41:33 No, but he's such a good grappler that it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. He didn't lose to Damien Maia because of his striking. True. He didn't lose to Masvidal. That was some crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Who saw that coming? Whatever happened with the Robbie Lawler fight, I believe, and whatever it was, whether he tapped or he didn't tap, I believe there are guys in the UFC like that, a lot of guys like that, that would have done the same thing to him and would not have gotten caught in that thing. I mean, I don't know. But I mean, as great as he is. Ben's grappling was on such a high level.
Starting point is 01:42:04 That's why we wanted to see it. You're right. You're right. His striking was subpar, for sure. Is that a response? I'm just saying, with great as he is. Ben's grappling was on such a high level. That's why we wanted to see it. You're right. His striking was subpar for sure. I'm just saying. But his grappling is so good that it doesn't matter. That's why he was there. He was there because he's a specialist. I mean, his grappling is off the charts.
Starting point is 01:42:15 And Robbie Lawler, there's no argument whether or not Robbie Lawler tapped. He definitely didn't tap. They just thought he might have been out. They threw him to the wolves, dude. Think about the guys they threw. Robbie Lawler. That's what I'm saying. The same thing about Khabib, though. Khabib's so formidable because of his grappling and what he's have been out. They threw him to the Wolves, dude. Think about the guys they threw. That's what I'm saying about Khabib, though.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Khabib's so formidable because of his grappling and what he's able to do. Right, but Khabib didn't take any time off like that. Taking the two years off that Askren took off and being 36. People forget he was older, but also when you say throw him to the Wolves, it's also like you were a champion from one championship.
Starting point is 01:42:41 You were a former world champion, so when he came over, the UFC ain't playing games. Look at Eddie Alvarez. He had a tough go. Look at Justin Gaethje. He was 0-2. You want to come over and you're a world champion, you're getting some dogs, man. Anything can happen.
Starting point is 01:42:53 It just shows you that if you're not fighting the UFC, and I know Scott Cogart, I love Scott Cogart. If you're not fighting the UFC, it ain't shit, man. Here's where I disagree. Douglas Lima. I think Douglas Lima might be right up there with everybody else at 170. At 170? He might be one of the best in the world. He might be able to knock out all of them.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah. You think he beats Usve? Listen to me. You think he beats Kobe? He might lose, but he might knock them out. No, you're out of your mind, man. Listen.
Starting point is 01:43:18 I love the dude. Lima is world class. He's right up there. When I watch him fight Michael Venn and Page, when I watch him fight... Ryan McDonald? Yeah, Semtex, when he fought Paul Daly. Dude, he is as legit as it comes. Now, go through Kamaru, or go through Colby's, or go through Woodley's, or Darren Till's
Starting point is 01:43:37 past five opponents. That's true. You're not fighting the best day in, day out. You're fighting one guy who's really good, and then you get two off. He's beating the best in front of him, lost to Rory in a very close fight, and then beat him in the day out. You're fighting one guy who's really good and then you got two off. He's beating the best in front of him, lost to Rory in a very close fight
Starting point is 01:43:48 and then beat him in the rematch. But what I'm seeing from him is world-class skills and ridiculous knockout power. He may or may not be able to beat those guys. The thing is,
Starting point is 01:43:59 you never know. But he's definitely in the conversation. For me, when I look at ability, when I look at what he can accomplish Even though he's fighting He's a big motherfucker, man
Starting point is 01:44:09 He's got some serious power When he KO'd Korshkov, when he KO'd Michael Venom Page He's a monster He could KO anyone He's a monster And I love Lima I have so much respect for him But to me, until you're in the UFC
Starting point is 01:44:24 And you're in that grind It's true that you can't say he's the best. That's true. But you can't say he's not world class. I'm not saying he's not world class, but I can't say, oh, he would beat the UFC's champ or he would be a top five. You can't say it in that division. That division's too crazy. You can't say it in any division. Masvidal could beat any 170 pounder alive.
Starting point is 01:44:46 On any given night, he can light up any 170 pounder. How do you think him and Usman would go? So could Usman. You know, these guys, you gotta realize humans in fighting are never a flat board. It's always like a little wibbly, a wobbly, ankles fucked up, I got a headache,
Starting point is 01:45:02 I'm having a hard time, wake up, my girlfriend's fucking with me, I'm getting over the flu. They're never exactly at the same level in every fight. So there are guys that are at a level where you catch them when you're up and they're down and you win, or they're up and you're down and they win. That's real, man. Unless you're Jon Jones. In that, Jon Jones, his wave's so much higher. The thing is, when his wave goes down, he just hits their best.
Starting point is 01:45:25 And then he pops right back up to untouchable levels. It's just about the size of the waves. But he still waves. He's got the OSP waves versus the Chael Sonnen waves. He comes in like a fucking murderer and just smashes. Or Daniel Cormier in the second fight. Or when he beats Shogun. He came in and just smashed him.
Starting point is 01:45:41 He shows that his wave is way higher than everybody else's. To play devil's advocate, someone say the USADA wave. Made to be shitty, but. I don't think that's true. I don't either. I don't think that's true. I think he's good no matter what. I think he's great all the time.
Starting point is 01:45:51 I'm just saying a lot of naysayers say, well, there's the USADA wave and there's that. Okay, but those people are not following science. Because if you look at what USADA has shown in the test that he's failed. They're not listening to that. They're talking about entirely not physically active versions of this drug. It's not efficient. What's the word they're looking for? Physiological doses.
Starting point is 01:46:15 It's not going to work. It's not strong enough. It's not doing anything. It's not performance enhancing. And it mimics what would happen if you have a tainted supplement. So most likely he's taking dick pills. Yeah, I agree. Like everybody thinks.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Or taking Coke. But all they're doing, Joe. Or taking Coke that has creatine in it. All they're doing is going, okay, when you saw those here, these were the performances. When you saw the, I'm sorry, when you saw it wasn't there, these were the performances. I think you have to take into account personal life turmoil. You have to take into account arrests. You have to take into account the crash into the woman with the broken arm.
Starting point is 01:46:46 You've got to take into account possible over-partying and all the crazy shit that was going on. And then suspension. I also think a lot of people don't take this into account. I talked to Dominic Reyes about this. Dominic Reyes. No, Dominic Reyes. Reyes, the guy who's fighting him.
Starting point is 01:47:01 I'm sorry. You fucking nut job. Please stop. Can you imagine someone using sleep as an excuse why they lost? Bro, I didn't sleep that good that week. No, but also for John. You can't use that. People don't take this consideration.
Starting point is 01:47:15 I also think it's tough for him to get up for the Anthony Smith and the Dominic Reyes. I think it's tough for him to be like, all right, I fought Shogun. I think it's tough for him to be like, all right, I fought Shogun. I fought fucking all these superstars. Rashad, Rampage, Chael, Liotta Machida, Vitor Belfort. You go through the whole list. Let me ask you this. John Jones versus Francis Ngannou.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Why'd you have to go there, dude? What is that like? That's going to happen for sure. The only thing that i would hope if that ever happens is that we allow ingano to get the press that he deserves like it like to pump him up in a way that he deserves to make you don't think he gets it people are terrified of that man they are hardcore fans and hardcore fighters like everybody who's in the know and everybody in the heavyweight division but he's not like a superstar he's not a worldwide it's too tough to get superstar status you gotta do some well the thing is if he had been a fight i think yes yeah that was a hard one the steep a fight fucked
Starting point is 01:48:12 him up too if he had beaten steep a he would help he would he would be a national hero he'd be a huge he would be a success story yeah well first of all for sure well he's still a hero there well for sure he is but i mean in this country he's still a hero there for sure he is but I mean in this country he would be a hero of like the scariest guy in the world was an immigrant
Starting point is 01:48:29 that barely spoke English just a little while ago and now he's murking people and he's only been fighting for six years and he developed his strength by the way
Starting point is 01:48:36 in a sand mine when he was a child doing child labor it's insane in Africa what the fuck man oh and he happens to be a really nice guy
Starting point is 01:48:43 he's a great guy he's a great guy he's from Cameroon and he's funny he's like smile man? Oh, and he happens to be a really nice guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's from Cameroon. And he's funny. He's like smiley, funny, happy guy. He's great. And he hits people
Starting point is 01:48:49 and they go into orbit. They go into orbit. Their soul leaves their body. You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? I think John beats, still beats him. Dude, what a fight
Starting point is 01:48:57 that would be. He does, right? What a fight that would be. I think John would be the favorite. Does John beat Stipe? If you had a gun to your head? I think John beats everybody. There's not a man on this planet who beats John Jones.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Wow. We've never seen John where he doesn't have to lose weight. We've never seen John where he's not cutting 25 pounds and just fucking watching his diet. What if he's eating healthy, good large portions and just hydrating as much as he wants all day long. Maybe he's 10% better. We don't know. Maybe Jon Jones is really the best 240 pound heavyweight in the world. He's just been fighting the 205.
Starting point is 01:49:34 He's 230. He's 230 easily. If he decided that... He comes from one of the best camps in the world. If Javier Vasquez and Crazy Bob Cook get together, and they come together with a physical plan for a Cain Velasquez, right? If they're going to look at what's the best weight for a guy like Cain Velasquez,
Starting point is 01:49:57 they're probably going to say, you know, you don't have to lose any weight. Like 240. 240 is the perfect heavyweight, yeah. Jackson Winklejohn, they're going to do the same thing. 100%. They're one of the best camps in the world. John Jones was raised in one of, you look at the success, just go down the line from Carlos Condit. Even Yoel Romero went down to Jackson Winklejohn.
Starting point is 01:50:12 He was training with that job. It's going to be like AKA or like Rufus or like any of the top camp. They're going to go, where do you think? He's going though. They're going, where are you going to be at? Here he said he's going. I know, but they're going to figure out a weight for him. The perfect weight.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Even 235. You said Israel Adesanya is way bigger than you thought. Way bigger. And he's definitely a better striker, I would imagine. I don't know about MMA, but that would be an interesting fight. He's just too small, I think, isn't he? Isn't he too thin? Well, he's a solid 30 pounds lighter, I think, walking around than John is.
Starting point is 01:50:44 That's very significant. But that's why he doesn't want to fight him now. He wants him to get older. Israel can gain weight. Israel can, you know, if he decides, like Canelo Alvarez when he went off to fight Kovalev, right? Again, same kind of thing. Canelo Alvarez is a world-class camp. They figure out how to do this.
Starting point is 01:51:01 They might use a little Mexican supplement. There definitely might be. They might use a little Mexican supplement. There definitely might be there might be something. But that style of boxing, it's not that outlandish. It's not that outlandish. When you see him, you're like, Jesus Christ. But if he can put on the weight and physically get up to a certain weight. Because his
Starting point is 01:51:17 skill set, his striking is better. Well, he's legit world class. Legit world class. Legit world class. He lost in a title fight to James Willness, and I thought he won. It was a very close fight. The way he did Robert Whitaker.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Yeah. And he looks like he's 6'5". He's a beast, man. Is he? 6'4". But the thing about him and that whole gym, they won Gym of the Year. Volkanovski, yeah. Volkanovski, who. Volkanovski,
Starting point is 01:51:45 who just became a world champion. Dan Hooker, who bounced back from the Barboza fight looking better than ever. They were fighting your boy Felder. That's a crazy fight.
Starting point is 01:51:54 And I think they're in New Zealand, right? Yep. Woo! Yeah. Dude, there's a bunch of killers in that camp. But they would have to
Starting point is 01:52:01 formulate a game plan. They would have to say, okay, what weight is the right weight? Are you too big at 230? Could you be 220? Is 220, are you faster? When do you have the most cardio?
Starting point is 01:52:13 What's the fucking point of diminishing returns? Just like I was saying. I think my example with Kane was probably not the best example, but I still to this day think of him as probably one of the greatest talents the heavyweight division That's a great example. There's 240. It's a great example in his weight, but I don't think he ever concentrated on it I think he was just like that just went at it. Just just trained real hard and was 240 But like the steep a steep for example 238
Starting point is 01:52:39 But like okay like here's one like Marlon arise like Marlon rise when he went to When he fought at 135 against Cejudo and faded, the next fight he came in lighter. American top teams are like, listen, let's bring your body weight down a little bit. Let's figure out what's the right formula here. And that's why a big camp that has a lot of experience in world title fights and knows, like seeing so many different fights, it's so important because they can look at you and go,
Starting point is 01:53:04 Brian, I don't see you as a 70. I see you as a 55. I think we gotta get in nutrition order. Like, what they've done, like, think about what's happened with Aldo just with the introduction of a nutritionist. 135. He used to have trouble with 45. Legitimately
Starting point is 01:53:19 made 35 and looked like a beast and took big shots from her eyes. Some people thought he won the fight. I thought he won the fight. Yeah, that's fair. I thought he won the fight. There's no argument. It was close. It was close. I can see how you both ways. Yeah. But dude, that's all
Starting point is 01:53:36 about optimizing all your possibilities. And then there's guys like Jon Jones who don't have to do that. He's so good. I just want him to get a heavyweight. I just want him to get a heavyweight. I just want him to go to heavyweight. Because he'll get up for it. Can you imagine the fucking trailer for him
Starting point is 01:53:51 versus Stipe, then him versus Francis Ngannou? Him and Francis, I'll fake. They announce that fight, I'll fake. You just wonder, though, about his brothers being all-stars in the NFL. Hold on. When you say his brother, I think was second in the league in sacks, Chandler Jones. Think about that.
Starting point is 01:54:07 And would you say his brothers are better athletes than John in one way or another? You can't say that. When it comes to what the NFL requires. Look at how much bigger his other brother is. That's Chandler and that's Arthur. The one on the right is the pro bowler. He's a beast in the NFL. If that guy's training,
Starting point is 01:54:24 he might be the only guy who can beat John Jones. 6'5", 260. He ain't making 205, son. Oh, no, he's not. That dude's huge. Jesus Christ. But that's phenomenal. But John grew up with those guys battling each other.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Yeah, that's the big thing is that they grew up beating each other's asses. That's what John's used to. And then the one on the left who's a D-tackle in the NFL, I think he's still in it, but he would come in for John's camps and hold used to. Yeah. And then the one on the left who's a D-tackle in the NFL, I think he's still in it, but he would come in for John's camps and hold John down. He would? Yeah. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:54:50 He would train with John. Oh, he did? Great guy. He's enormous. Yeah, there's video and pictures of Arthur training with John. He's so big. Look how big he is. He's got wide hips.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Oh, my God. He's 300 plus. Yeah. That's a big fella. Anyway, so it's a great gene pool He's coming from And you know I have this theory about
Starting point is 01:55:09 Guys who grow up with brothers That beat their asses Like Matt Hughes One of the greatest welterweights Of all time One of the things about him Is he had a twin brother That was exactly him
Starting point is 01:55:19 Doesn't Askren have a twin brother? I don't know I don't think so But Matt and Mark Hughes Used to beat the shit out of each other He does Check that I think Ben Askren has a twin brother You ever see and mark hughes used to beat the shit out of each other he does you know check that i think ben askren has a twin brother you ever see joe lozon and his brother beating the fuck out of each other at a at a there's like a
Starting point is 01:55:31 family picnic the diaz brothers do they have an mma fight in the grass at a family picnic what yeah family picnic they're they're all hanging out in the backyard of a house all the families around with fucking red cups their their hand, drinking beer. And these guys are beating the fuck out of each other. My brother had to go see a therapist. He'd beat me up so much. Oh, I'm sorry. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Ben and Max Asperin. They're not twins. Definitely not twins. Definitely not twins. Yeah. It's like that thing about brothers. That's one of the ways you make tougher people.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Because you don't get an escape. Every day, that big motherfucker is right next to you and you because you don't get an escape. Every day, that big motherfucker is right next to you and you're like, shit, you have to learn, like Chris Weidman,
Starting point is 01:56:10 same thing. It's probably him when he was younger. They did a really interesting study about the fastest people in the world. All were like either the youngest
Starting point is 01:56:17 or second youngest or large families. And they had to keep up with their older brothers and sisters. There's some, that's a little bit of bro science, but that is written up in the book.
Starting point is 01:56:26 I think it's in Sports Gene. It's Outliers. Sports Gene or Outliers. I think it's in Outliers. Yeah. It's in one of those. It would examine why people are hyper successful. That'd be a good name for a podcast, Bro Science, where it gets you carte blanche to talk about
Starting point is 01:56:40 bullshit, and you don't have to be an expert on it. That's what we all do. We all do that anyway. We do that anyway. Besides Joe, all of us. it and that's what we all do anyway besides joe all of us yeah that's what we do you call it bro science then you have a free pass yeah dude i do it too i don't know half what i'm talking about if you like looked at a chart how much of what i'm saying do i actually know what i'm talking about the difference is you'll ask questions yeah but you'll ask them questions we just yeah but with like like a guy like lane norton i'll
Starting point is 01:57:03 i said to him one time i go let me can i give you my theory on nutrition no let me just give you my whole philosophy and i and i went off on insulin and lane is so great because lane just went i mean you know you're in the general area i guess it's kind of like describing basketball as five dudes that run down and go and try to take a leather ball and put it in a hoop. We should talk while you're talking about him. He did a very in-depth breakdown of all the things that were incorrect about the game changers and incorrect about the documentary debate about the game changers between Chris Kresser and James Wilkes. James Wilkes did a good job because Kresser was wrong about a few things that he called them out on.
Starting point is 01:57:43 And Kresser didn't really didn't he's not a confrontational guy James is ready to go he wasn't as good well James is a really smart guy he's really smart man it's one thing that I said about him before
Starting point is 01:57:53 before the podcast when they were talking about other vegan people that are you know proponents of the diet I'm like you gotta understand this guy's way smarter
Starting point is 01:58:01 than most of these knuckleheads there's a lot of people that are using it for self-aggrandized reasons. Yes. Is that the word? Aggrandizement? Gradioso?
Starting point is 01:58:11 No, self-aggrandizing. What would you say? Self-aggrandized reasons? I don't know that one. Anyway, they're just trying to pump themselves up. What he's doing is, whether he's right or wrong, he has a very firm belief in what he's saying, and he's also very intellectually capable in terms of like...
Starting point is 01:58:28 He's also done the research. And he's not scared. He's ready to go. Legitimately. But there's no doubt that James Willick has done... Wilkes. You don't know his name. Wilkes.
Starting point is 01:58:35 Josh. He's done his... Peter Pye. He's done his fucking work, though. He was ready to go. I was so impressed with him. Very impressed. But at the end of the day...
Starting point is 01:58:44 What's the conclusion? When someone like Lane Norton goes over, not just the debate, where they got stuck in the weeds on a couple different issues in terms of quality of protein and calories. They were passionate. It's just, it's a long conversation. It's a long conversation. But really, it's better had with someone like Wilkes and someone like Lane Norton. Because Lane Norton, who's got a legitimate phd really understands nutrition really understands
Starting point is 01:59:08 the science of it and is a full-on 100 science guy now there's a thing that vegans do where they say oh that guy's funded by you know the meat industry the dairy industry no most studies are funded by some kind of an industry that does not automatically mean that the person who put those studies out is a corrupt person. It's bullshit. It's a bullshit argument. It's a straw man that they use to diffuse legitimate argument. I think Chris Kresser should have stuck to his one point, which is you can eat some meat and dairy without dying. Not just some, man.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Not just some. You probably eat quite a bit. Joe only eats meat. Listen, but that's just now. Okay? I'm not a good example. I've been doing it for, like I said, 11 days or something like that in the neighborhood. How do you feel?
Starting point is 01:59:57 Yeah, you said you feel great. Dude, I feel great. I lost seven pounds. I lost seven pounds. I had a full six-pack now. All my gut went away. I still have a little bit of love handles I got a little bit of this right here
Starting point is 02:00:07 In 11 days? In 11 days That'll be at the end of the month That'll be gone All that love handle shit will be gone My goal I'm like 197 My goal is like 190
Starting point is 02:00:16 I lose 7 more pounds Turns out Talked to my doctor when I pissed I broke my leg Fuck Yeah I have a fracture Cause I told you I was like something's fuck yeah i have a fracture because i told you i was like something's wrong there there's a fracture where my knee and my cartilage connect you have
Starting point is 02:00:30 to have surgery no no surgery no from falling skiing some lady wiped out in front of me and i tried to get away from killing her and i she just like she just was on like a hill trying to put her skis on and she just slid right into the fucking trail last minute and i was like yikes and there's kids here and it's like fuck there's too many people and i just went down sacrifice yourself i went down but my knee went and i my head went but bang i banged my head hard back my head cracked and i was like oh i don't need that brain damage did you have a helmet on of course but i was like but but it was like, when I landed, I was like, fuck. I did not need that.
Starting point is 02:01:08 And then for the rest of the day, I was a little half dizzy. But anyway, I was like, man, there's something wrong with my knee. I did a yoga class. And then the next day, it was kind of a little sore. And the next day after that, it was sore-er. And I was like, goddammit, I've got to get an MRI. So I got an MRI today. And there's some sort of a fracture where the cartilage meets the
Starting point is 02:01:28 bone. So what are you going to do? I got to chill. You said, dude, not that a heel on its own, small fracture? It's interesting, because I'm not walking with a limp. It's very small, but I only feel it when I go all the way down. Like if I was doing a squat, ass to ground squat, I would feel it at the bottom. Yeah, it's not doing those I would feel it at the bottom. That's when I feel it.
Starting point is 02:01:48 But I'm not. I just was trying. Is this legit or am I being a pussy? The thing you have when you get injured. You said this about, I went and got those insoles after you got them for your plantar fasciitis. Check this out. Remember when I was always talking about I would wake up and I couldn't walk? My feet, I couldn't
Starting point is 02:02:04 move my feet. I had to warm my feet up. I would walk like I was 70. I couldn't walk. My feet, I couldn't move my feet. I had to warm my feet up. You were 70 years old. I would walk like I was 70. I couldn't walk downstairs. TRT is your friend. Right? No, I did those insoles.
Starting point is 02:02:12 I don't have any problems. Me neither, dude. I bounce out of bed. My shit's gone too. But it dawned on me when you said it on the podcast. When you said you're planning a fresh start, I was like, wait. I've had no fucking problems getting out of bed. My feet are 100% ever since I had these insoles.
Starting point is 02:02:26 You're welcome. It cost me $100. You're welcome. Changed my whole life. What are the insoles? You go to a running store. Was it called Runner's Roost? Yeah, it's in Santa Monica.
Starting point is 02:02:35 I step into a mold, and then you have insoles. It takes five minutes. Yeah, five minutes. And then they print them out right there. I have them right now. I put them in all my shoes. Really? His plantar fasciitis went away.
Starting point is 02:02:44 It went away? Completely gone. Don't they say that plantar fasciitis went away. It went away? Completely gone. Don't they say that plantar fasciitis, you can also get that to go away by strengthening your feet? I think doing barefoot exercises. I had it when I was fighting and I'd be barefoot all the time. I used to wear those naked shoes. I used to do jiu-jitsu, run on the mat, so do my condition barefoot.
Starting point is 02:03:01 My feet were strong. But forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think that that is is overused i think that's the thing that it comes from i think plantar fasciitis is like a tendonitis of the foot i think it comes from overuse so where the i have tendonitis right now where your heels at all the all the ligaments meet like kind of underneath there and right where it meets it flares the fuck up when you have it bad you can't walk oh dude it feels like a hot poker stick going through your heel. I think it's real similar
Starting point is 02:03:27 to tendonitis. I've had tendonitis on my elbow and I've had it on my shoulder. I'm talking unbearable. I couldn't run. I couldn't do anything. I think it's real similar. It's gone now.
Starting point is 02:03:36 Think about all the shit you're doing running around when you're training all that barefoot. It probably puts a heavy load on your feet. You probably have to build up to it. Like a guy...
Starting point is 02:03:49 But I did it for years. i was doing that for seven years then like on year seven i got it well it's probably overused yeah maybe seriously think about all those years of training no you used to run a lot too and you're huge i still do that's i think that's the thing too when you're 260 and you just run 270 270 270 Jesus what did you say though are you on the beach are you doing beach running what did you say though 70 running on the beach 270 what do you want to be what's like goal
Starting point is 02:04:10 235 you can do that oh yeah how about you just do this carnivore diet that's what I'm going to do get shredded son that's what I'm going to do I'm going to do it with you
Starting point is 02:04:16 I'm telling you everyone is worried about the farts meat only bro red meat for me and Joe dude what scared why are you scared about that do you get farts no that's the thing
Starting point is 02:04:24 not only do I not get f get first of all my diarrhea is legendary like they would talk about it in books no i do get it right now that's the carnivore scholars scholars in the past if they encountered this kind of diarrhea they would soon was haunted by demons you took a photo yeah you took a photo of your shit right now but that Right now man But that can't be very healthy Oh it's the most healthy Wait hold on Stop You cleared out your system
Starting point is 02:04:49 It's science So you're getting diarrhea And you're eating No no no Most of the diarrhea Has gone away But the ferocity The explosiveness
Starting point is 02:04:57 What you're saying Sometimes I enjoy it man The way that I describe it Is like I do not trust my asshole And it was coming out black Take a look at that Oh no Yeah that's my toilet
Starting point is 02:05:07 Say meanwhile What was that? Peak of hell Last week Not even Not even last week What's today? Just show me from there
Starting point is 02:05:13 Is that a side effect of a carnivore diet? Yeah yeah yeah Apparently Tar comes out of your ass? What happens is Tar? It's just black liquid Like I'm going to write a letter to the president
Starting point is 02:05:22 Like you're a squid? Like you're a fucking ocean squid? Like a little squid trying to fucking dolly up some pasta. There's something about... You can swim. If a shark comes at you, just shit. There's something about having no carbs. I haven't had zero.
Starting point is 02:05:36 I've had no bread, no nothing. Did you get lightheaded though? No. I haven't had any problems. Wow. But the... Other than the diarrhea, which is ferocious. The black diarrhea?
Starting point is 02:05:44 But the thing about the... Which is ferocious The black diarrhea But the The thing about It says black tar heroin Apparently carbs absorb water They'll help absorb water And they They pump up So your body
Starting point is 02:05:53 Is used to this sort of a balance And according to Dr. Sean Baker I don't know if he's correct But he's a carnivore proponent He says that What's got to happen Is your colon has to adjust
Starting point is 02:06:03 To the fact that You're no longer consuming carbs. And your body has to figure out how to deal with all the liquid. You lose weight when you're shooting fucking diarrhea out of your ass, man. That's true. But I've also been eating probably a diminished amount of calories. And by only having one thing. It's not really one thing because I'm eating a balance between beefsteak and elk and bacon.
Starting point is 02:06:24 And occasionally I'll have eggs. You can have eggs. How's your cholesterol? I have some salmon. You already asked me, fuck. You're going so old. No, I asked you that. I didn't ask you. Hey, you fuck. I'm getting, I got my blood work done on Monday and I'm going to get it done at the end of the month too. Brian, you should do carnivore.
Starting point is 02:06:40 But here's the thing, is that dietary cholesterol has very little effect on blood cholesterol and body cholesterol. Most of what little effect on blood cholesterol, on body cholesterol. Most of what people have with high cholesterol, a lot of it is genetic. A lot of it is sedentary lifestyle. There's a lot of factors. Diet is one of those factors. And there's also some people that just genetically should never have a high cholesterol diet or a high saturated fat diet.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Genetically, it's terrible for them. Just like some people shouldn't eat peanuts or your mom brazil nuts like have you heard of that uh you can do the you can do the bunch of tests my boy todd phelman did this and he found out if you should be fasting if you should be having carbs what kind of carbs what kind of proteins it's crazy man yeah i mean there's a it's a it's a super intense testing we should find out health nucleus down and um that's craigenter's company down in San Diego. I'm not going to San Diego. No.
Starting point is 02:07:29 I'm going down. For what? It's La Jolla. For what? It's La Jolla. Look, we can go and do a show. It's a five-hour physical. They do everything.
Starting point is 02:07:35 It's a five-hour drive, too. I'm fucking doing it, man. I can't wait. Wait, what's he do? I'm going to live forever. It's impossible that there's something they can do in La Jolla they can't do in Los Angeles. Yeah, how come I can't get my blood work ran? You just know this guy.
Starting point is 02:07:46 They're longevity specialists. He wants to use you for your Instagram likes. And there's no longevity specialists in Beverly Hills, Brian. Eddie Bravo hasn't talked for 15 minutes. He's brewing with conspiracy theories. It's just popping. They're just popping in his mouth right now. They do get a lot of information on you.
Starting point is 02:08:03 They do sell your data. Your data's being sold left and right all the time. That's a fact. A fact. That's a fact. Your data's always being sold and we don't know it. Yeah, that is a fact. So maybe Eddie's right at the end of the day.
Starting point is 02:08:13 Maybe it's better to be more like Eddie than me. He's definitely right about something. Man, that's the nicest thing you've ever said about me. It's true. I appreciate it. Yeah, Eddie's gotten super quiet. As I get older, like when i find out we're allied to for 18 years by by essentially all the top policymakers about uh afghanistan i think that's
Starting point is 02:08:31 i think that's i like the way you say afghanistan afghanistan afghanistan i love that was never a winnable war interesting are you surprised no i'm not but uh I'm a naive. You know what it is? I'll say this. Whenever I hear that people at the top are doing things in their self-interest and they're allowing people to die, you know why I don't believe it? Because I don't think that way and I can't believe people are such assholes. And I'm not saying I'm an angel. I'm not saying I'm a better person.
Starting point is 02:09:01 I'm just saying sometimes people are such assholes you can't fucking believe it. And they're successful for it and they get rewarded for it. I also think there's people that are doing this and they've been doing this at a time where information you could hold on to it you know you could you could have secrets in a way that you can't have secrets today i think we're just living in a totally different world totally like it used to be that um being famous was the greatest thing ever and now now being famous, it's not so great. It's like you're just a target. You know, it's like being a- It depends. You still, you have a voice.
Starting point is 02:09:31 The thing is if you can take the heat. I'm talking about being like a famous actor or a rock star. You're a target. Look at Prince of England, him and Meghan Markle. We're like, oh, we're fucking out, man. This is too much. Are they quitting the Royal Family? Yeah, they're moving to Canada. They're like, we're out out man This is too much Are they quitting the royal family? Yeah they're moving to Canada
Starting point is 02:09:46 They're like we're out We don't make money on our own Can you imagine if you're in a tabloid I won't blame them Is that what they said? Yeah they're like The negativity She can't deal with it
Starting point is 02:09:54 That guy's a great fucking guy He's a regular dude That guy Prince Harry He's a great Prince Harry Is he from the royal family? Yeah he's a fucking He's out
Starting point is 02:10:01 Have you heard this? He's like I don't want to do this anymore Just the idea of you being a royal. What the fuck are we talking about? We in a Harry Potter book? Is this some Game of Thrones shit? It's so strange. You're not a royal.
Starting point is 02:10:12 It's so... That's not real. That's not real, you fuck. He wasn't disarming. She's the richest person in the world. Who is? The Queen of England. No, she's not.
Starting point is 02:10:19 Eddie Educator. No, she's not. Eddie, go. Listen to me. I don't know who has the most money. Eddie, go. The people that own the oil. You know what I'm talking about. Listen. People that own oil. I don't know if she's the richest not. Did he go? Listen to me. I don't know who has the most money. Did he go? I don't know. The people that own the oil. You know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 02:10:26 Listen. People that own oil. I don't know if she's the richest. I don't know. Listen to me. People that own oil in Middle East, there are people that are, there's undocumented wealth because they're not public. For sure.
Starting point is 02:10:37 They don't have to be on the fucking Forbes 500. They have trillions of dollars. This is a fact. This is an undeniable. There's people with unbelievable wealth. You wouldn't be able to understand it. Vladimir Putin might have that kind of dollars. This is a fact. This is an undeniable. There's people with unbelievable wealth. You wouldn't be able to understand it. Vladimir Putin might have that kind of wealth. He might be. He might be the richest man in the world. But the Queen
Starting point is 02:10:52 of England can go suck a dick. Eddie, you're not going to leave us. Eddie, you're not going to throw out any facts for me? That's the fucking end of the podcast. I'm sorry, fine people of England. It was just a figure of speech. She's a powerful lady.
Starting point is 02:11:06 I didn't really mean it. She might be the ruler of the world. That's what some people believe. She might be. It might all be coming from her. Edit that out, Jamie. She might be. She might be the most powerful person in the world.
Starting point is 02:11:18 But the idea of royals is ridiculous, man. You know what I'm talking about. The idea of someone being born into a position of power. We're not saying it's logical or awesome. is ridiculous, man. You know what I'm talking about. The idea of someone being born into a position of power where- We're not saying it's logical or awesome. It's crazy that it's still real. That we do care about the press. Well, think about this.
Starting point is 02:11:31 And people are so interested in their lives. Just a bunch of CBD oil. Think about how, what we're seeing now is we're seeing clearly now, clearly who is above the law. There are people that can do whatever the fuck they want.
Starting point is 02:11:43 We're seeing it now. It used to be a myth, conspiracy theory, but we're seeing it now. Who is above the law? There are people that can do whatever the fuck they want. We're seeing it now. It used to be a myth, conspiracy theory, but we're seeing it now. Who is above the law? With all this that's going on with Epstein and all that, and we're seeing how the media is backing them up, too. How interesting is that? Hollywood. Hollywood backing them up.
Starting point is 02:12:00 You see here. Wow. That's the scariest thing ever. That's fucking Adam Sh adam ship right there they were playing out in the hallways they were playing out of the hallways of the jail before they killed epstein no shit it's scary prince harry just saying what this is nonsense i'm still young someone's gonna step away from this and then maybe that will change imagine if that was like the fucking beginning of the pieces that brought down the what is the little thing? Jenga? Is that what that is?
Starting point is 02:12:26 Jenga, yeah, that's Jenga. Pull out the pieces. Big shit going on right now. It's going on right now. Think about his uncle. Big shit going down right now. His uncle with, you know. Prince Andrew?
Starting point is 02:12:35 Yeah. Well, that's just embarrassing because he was probably banging all the girls. Probably is a funny word. We got pictures. I mean, we got pictures and the lady coming out. I think that guy seems a little spectrum-y. Yeah. When he's talking, he seems a little off.
Starting point is 02:12:48 That interview. That interview, too. Have you guys seen that interview? You would have to be a little fucked up to grow up as a royal in that sort of environment. He was a victim. Imagine you're in Harlem with some crack dealer who wants to take you around And you're from the royal family And you're like Oh where are we going
Starting point is 02:13:07 Yeah You know it was tight With the royal family We're going to the trap house What The trap house That's right Let's try some of this shit
Starting point is 02:13:13 Epstein Epstein Epstein Well not only Epstein Epstein was tight With the royal family Jimmy Savile as well So I mean
Starting point is 02:13:19 Epstein was Yeah Epstein was tight With Jimmy Savile I think Savile No no no Maybe For sure Savile was a celebrity He was like a Jimmy Savile I think Savile No no no Maybe For sure
Starting point is 02:13:25 Savile was a celebrity He was like a big celebrity Do you know Do you know what Savile What The dark side of him Do you know What is it
Starting point is 02:13:33 There's a dark side He was A lot of boys And yeah And he Man I thought there was something Darker than that
Starting point is 02:13:40 Like is there a dark side To the I don't think there's much more No I didn't think Cause he's also known as like Dick Clark of the UK. He was like this pop DJ. Yeah, but not anymore, man. Everyone knows the real story about him.
Starting point is 02:13:51 Not everybody. Not everybody knows who Jimmy Savile is. Most people do not know who Jimmy Savile is. Jamie, give me a picture of him. But people in England know who he is. Look at how disgusting this guy looks. Look at how disgusting this guy looks. Okay, but Eddie, people in England who know who he is now know.
Starting point is 02:14:06 No, in England, but England's this one hundredth of Earth. But in England, the people who knew him and grew up with him now know he was a monster. Damn, he raped 34 women. And look who he was typed with. He raped children. He raped all kinds of people, man. He was a monster. Wow. And he was a monster wow and he was a
Starting point is 02:14:25 celebrity that was it's the equivalent of if we found out dick clark was fucking all sorts of boys he would he would be he would be all into raising money for uh mental hospitals because his he preyed on mentally ill people. Jamie, click on that link that says everybody knew about Jimmy Savile. What is that? Dude, the Jimmy Savile story. That's nine hours, dude. That's nine hours.
Starting point is 02:14:53 A former police officer has spoken about some of his colleagues' attitude towards Jimmy Savile in the 1960s, saying that everyone in the force knew Jimmy liked them young. The ex-officer, who wants to remain anonymous anonymous was with Leeds City Police in the 1960s. Was it girls or boys? It was girls. Girls and boys. It was girls and boys.
Starting point is 02:15:11 I've never heard of him. I've never heard of this guy. This is the first time? First time. There you go. But in England. That's why it's a shame to bring him up. This is a famous Epstein.
Starting point is 02:15:20 Imagine if Epstein was a celebrity. Oh, wow. That he did the same thing. But how long ago? it was the 1960s but when did this news come out? it came out after he died but there was a lot of accusations while he was still alive
Starting point is 02:15:32 in the 60s and 70s but he had everybody so nobody was going to indict him you know what I mean? it was back in the day when you can get away with something like that you know dark how about that journalist who infiltrated the Vatican you remember that? Wow. You know what I mean? It was back in the day when you can get away with something like that. You know? Dark.
Starting point is 02:15:48 How about that journalist who infiltrated the Vatican? Remember that? What? Nobody needs to infiltrate the Vatican. The Vatican is what infiltrates. There's a French journalist who is gay himself who went in to basically interview the priest in the Vatican. Oh, okay. He said, I'm doing an account of the Vatican.
Starting point is 02:16:04 Well, you know he he spent a while there a while years yeah years and and he came out and basically said in this book um he said there's there are a lot of gay priests there and there are a lot of pedophiles and both are protecting each other because they don't want each other to get exposed you say anybody you tell me i fuck boys and i going to tell people you fuck guys. And it's this whole, and it came out in the book. It's a real, yeah. I mean, it's from interviews.
Starting point is 02:16:32 Well, if you know the history of the Roman Catholic Church, you know, Constantine, this is like mainstream history. Constantine, he was a pagan, which can be considered Luciferian. Frank Bruni, there it is. Yeah, so Constantine. can be considered Luciferian? Frank Bruni, there it is. Yeah, so... Vatican's sexual... Vatican's gay overlords.
Starting point is 02:16:46 A sensational new book mines the Catholic Church sexual secrets. And he's gay, that guy, Frank Bruni. Will right-wing homophobes exploit it? Frank Bruni's gay?
Starting point is 02:16:56 Yeah. Yeah, well, for a gay guy, it's got to be a bittersweet thing to know that gay wizards control everything to do with the Catholic Church. And they even dress like gay wizards. When you look at the history of the Vatican,
Starting point is 02:17:10 when you look at the history, Constantine decided to convert to Christianity because the people were leaving. The people were like, fuck that. So this is mainstream history. Constantine goes, okay, I'm no longer pagan slash Luciferian. I'm no longer ancient Babylonian shit. We like Christ too. We're going to do Christ. We're no longer ancient Babylonian shit. We like Christ, too.
Starting point is 02:17:25 We're going to do Christ. We're going to do... This is mainstream. We're going to start the Roman Catholic Church. We're going to have a pope. He talks to Jesus every day. It's where it moves to the east. We're going to have cardinals.
Starting point is 02:17:35 They talk to Jesus once a week. And then we have the bishops. They talk to Jesus once a month. And then the priests every now and then. And all of a sudden, they created rock stars, dudes with power. The pope has power. He talks to Jesus every day. Cardinals, b cardinals bishops priests right so come on back we got we got jesus for you they made jesus and just like you're telling us things we already know no no but what i'm saying
Starting point is 02:17:54 is they were never into jesus it was never about jesus we know that yeah yeah so when you look at the vatican you're like man the constantine didn't convert to christianity until he died no it well maybe he did maybe he didn't convert to christianity exactly no well maybe he did maybe he didn't but that was always like a debate about it but there was always a debate right so when you look at the vatican they have a lot of fucking luciferian shit look at look at the resurrection look at the sculpture of the resurrection pull that up the sculpture and you tell me if that's jesus This isn't the Vatican Cathedral. The sculpture of the resurrection.
Starting point is 02:18:28 It does not look like Jesus. Have you ever been to the Vatican? I've seen a lot of videos on it. You should go. It's amazing just to see it. It's pretty fucking stunning. The notion of drinking the blood of Christ and eating it. This is their main church. That's supposed to be Jesus right there?
Starting point is 02:18:44 It looks like a Slayer album cover. That looks like Helloway. It's an main church. That does not, that's supposed to be Jesus right there? They just go, this is supposed, it looks like a Slayer album cover. Well, it's an album. That looks like Hella Waits. It's an artist rendering. That looks like Hella Waits. Slayer, right there. So they're saying. Pull up the, go close in on it, Jamie.
Starting point is 02:18:55 This is supposed to represent the resurrection of Jesus. How come you couldn't show the part? How come you didn't show the part where he's like in front of a meadow and he resurrected and there's children running in the meadow. This is an artist. This is not like the Mona Lisa represents all women. This is a guy's depiction of it. Dude, this is in the Vatican.
Starting point is 02:19:10 This is their main church. This is the main church. Eddie, please. Can I just see what that looks like? Come on, man. It's beautiful. Pull up. It's an artist.
Starting point is 02:19:18 It's hell. It's hell. Jamie, Jamie, same picture. Same picture. They chose hell. Just go back to that same picture. It's blurry. That's as close as I can get.
Starting point is 02:19:24 Oh, okay. Dude, they chose the part where he's rising out of hell. You should have chose the part where he's in the sky with the clouds. But is Eddie, is that what it's supposed to represent? Yes. Him resurrected from hell. He's coming out of the ground. It looks like roots.
Starting point is 02:19:37 But those things in the bottom aren't faces. Okay. Right? Are they? All right. I don't even want to argue. It's possible. No, I'm asking.
Starting point is 02:19:44 I'm not arguing. It looks like hell to me. It's possible. I'm asking. I'm not arguing. It looks like hell to me. It's possible the artist felt the same way you did. He was like, this is a subversive thing. Why don't you use the part where he resurrected and he's over a meadow or something? Maybe the artist wasn't a Christian. Hold on a second. None of them were.
Starting point is 02:19:56 What is he coming out of? They were all lying. Is that the ground? What is that? It's supposed to be hell. How do you know? He's resurrecting from hell. He went to hell and then he resurrected.
Starting point is 02:20:04 Jesus went to hell? Why would Jesus go go to hell that doesn't make any sense i don't think that's in the scripture okay that doesn't what is that image all right the art behind he's getting it looks like hell to me it looks like a slayer album cover the restoration of the statue of the resurrection i've never seen that has become satan's throne i don't know. What is that? I've never seen that. It depicts Jesus rising. Back up, please. It's a nuclear bomb. What? Nuclear bomb crater.
Starting point is 02:20:30 These people are crazy people. That's the Vatican. That's the main church in the Vatican. No, I understand that. But I don't know what that represents. You would have to talk to the actual artist. If the Vatican hired someone to make an art piece about the resurrection, and this is his depiction of it,
Starting point is 02:20:44 I don't know how much that has to say about the vatican's position or about this guy who created maybe they're into jesus maybe i'm jumping by the way i said frank bruni's gay that's not the guy who wrote the book that's a piece of shit sorry frank bruni frank is out of a bitch i don't know if he's gay or not but i shouldn't look at the serpent cathedral in the vatican i would like to take this time to apologize to the Queen of England. And to Frank Bruni. Here's another part of the Vatican. I would like to apologize to the Queen of England.
Starting point is 02:21:11 These are just figures of speeches we rudely use here in America. Serpent cathedral. Apologize to Frank Bruni, too. To defend you, though, his picture, he did look gay. My friend Brian said you look gay. He just meant handsome. That's all he meant. That's right.
Starting point is 02:21:23 He meant gay like maybe in the Flintstones. Have a gay old time that's all good come see me in Nashville this weekend I'm down with the Queensryche Queensryche
Starting point is 02:21:31 that's one of my favorite all time that's in the Vatican that's the serpent cathedral that's dope come on man that's a serpent
Starting point is 02:21:36 look at the fangs and look at the eyes that is a serpent come on look at the tongue that comes out of the fangs the Vatican's been pretending they're into Christ.
Starting point is 02:21:45 They're not into Christ. They want to destroy Christ. Oh, wait. That's supposed to be a snake? They're trying to destroy Christ. Oh, I see now. You don't see the... Look at that.
Starting point is 02:21:53 Look at the fangs. Give it up, bro. That's the Vatican. That is the snake. How is that Jesus? How is that Jesus right there? Where is Jesus? Is that the Vatican?
Starting point is 02:22:00 That is the Vatican. That is a snake. You know what's the most amazing thing about the Vatican, though? It's not the satanic shit. It's St. Peter's Basilica. St. Peter's Basilica took hundreds of years. When you're standing in the middle of it, you can't believe it's real, man. It's incredible.
Starting point is 02:22:14 I mean, go to that upper left corner that you got there. Right there, Jamie. Right there. Yeah. When you zoom in on that, can you click on it? It doesn't click? It's so amazing. What is that?
Starting point is 02:22:24 That's St. Peter's Basilica. What's it zoomed in on, though? It's a fucking enormous church. It's so much bigger than that. It's so big. It's hard. But the snake one, how do we get past that snake one? How do we get past that?
Starting point is 02:22:37 Somebody loves snakes. Those are the same people that came up with the Big Bang Theory. Same people who were into butterflies. They're the same people who did the Hellow weights cathedral and then the serpent cathedral they came up with big bang theories it's just lovely it's the same people dude they're trying to kill christ they're not trying to they're not christian look at this saint peter's basilica no power tools no no power tools no fucking cranes meanwhile maybe they did have power tools it's amazing man
Starting point is 02:23:07 it didn't even make sense to me my whole family we were walking around we barely talked to each other even my kids who were always like super energetic they were just like as a kid it's the first thing I remember looking at and not being able to get it I feel the same way when I go to the
Starting point is 02:23:23 Venetian at Vegas I'm like oh my god when I go to the venetian at vegas i'm like oh my god venetian i'm like jesus christ go there you'll lose your mind you'll never you won't be able to leave yeah look at that wow look at that dude it's like a persian's house but not anymore looking at it right now is your house looking at it looking at it right now is one thing but looking at it when you're there in person, it really, it's one of the reasons why people were so into believing. That makes sense. It's because it's so bigger than anything you've ever seen in your life that you feel like you have to be humble when you walk in there.
Starting point is 02:23:57 There are paintings that were done, that were started by one artist and then finished by another artist because that artist died. It took them a lifetime and then another guy took off yeah it's amazing who gets the credit right no one there no one in fact that's what's interesting about that kind of art it was done for god and it wasn't done nobody signs it right it wasn't about you it was about it was about the larger picture and that's the difference between architecture back then and architecture today architecture like you know today you, it's about the architect. You see these incredible structures, like, you know, whatever it might be,
Starting point is 02:24:32 these structures that we go and visit all the time. We don't really know. It was done by maybe one guy, then another guy. That scenario, it was commissioned by a king. You hear about the king who financed it. You don't hear about the guy who built it. Because that wasn't the point back then. Wasn't it the Freemasons that they built everything? No, it was the aliens. It was the Anunnaki.
Starting point is 02:24:49 According to the Big Bang Theory, the expansion of an observable universe began with the explosion of a single particle at a definite point in time. Oh, we gonna go there? We gonna go there, Jamie? Georges Lemaître, a Belgian cosmologist, Catholic priest, and father of the Big Bang Theory.
Starting point is 02:25:06 So he was a cosmologist as well as being a Catholic priest. Do you know that, Brian? The Vatican has the biggest telescopes in the world. They have one called Lucifer. They have a telescope called Lucifer. It's not the biggest telescope. It's not the biggest telescope.
Starting point is 02:25:21 You've gone too far. How crazy is that, right? How about it's real? That's crazy? It's not the biggest telescope. You've gone too far. You think that's, how crazy is that, right? You've gone too far. How about it's real? How about it's real? How about it's real? That's crazy that we have telescopes? I feel like Eddie's gone too far.
Starting point is 02:25:30 No, I don't think that's true. I don't think that's the biggest telescope in the world. It's one of the, it was the biggest at one time, or it still may be the biggest. It's probably a big one. But it was the biggest at one time. Back before the wheel. The Vatican, the Vatican has been, is a beautiful place. I love it.
Starting point is 02:25:44 Have you ever been? I was born Catholic? I was born Catholic I was born Catholic and you know I'm all down for the Catholic Church you're gonna have to wear a wig I love the Pope
Starting point is 02:25:50 I love the Cardinals I love the Bishops I love all of them you're backtracking you should go you should go you should go just to see how weird it is
Starting point is 02:25:58 yeah I've seen a lot of it man and I love it but I mean in person I love it in person it's strange what does that say? Lucifer instrument it. In person, it's strange. What does that say?
Starting point is 02:26:07 Lucifer instrument helps astronomers see through darkness. It's at the Vatican. I'm trying to tell you. You think I'm retarded? It's in Arizona. In Arizona. My Jesuit astronomy. The Vatican has an observatory
Starting point is 02:26:15 in Arizona. It's real, bro. Named by Jesuit astronomers. Eddie's actually. I know. He's not making it up. I'm like, bullshit. Let's see how big it is.
Starting point is 02:26:23 It's amazing the Vatican would call it. The Vatican is the one behind killing Christ. Amazing that the Vatican would have a telescope and they name it Lucifer. Go to that. Click on that link. Yeah, why'd they name it Lucifer? Exactly. It's an acronym for something, but it just so happens to be Lucifer.
Starting point is 02:26:43 No. Really? That's them just That's what they say Lucifer stands for something They say it stands for something It stands for like some kind of linear You know what they say You better stand for something
Starting point is 02:26:58 Or you'll fall for everything Yeah No more weed for Brian What does it say here? Large binocular telescope Go make that a little larger for my shitty eyes It's an optical telescope for astronomy Located at 10,700 feet
Starting point is 02:27:13 Mount Graham in Pinaleno Mountains of Southeastern Arizona Part of the Mount Graham International Observatory The LBT is currently one of the world's most advanced optical telescopes, the two 8.4, 330-inch wide mirrors, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't see any Lucifer in this one.
Starting point is 02:27:33 It's probably not this one. Where's the name? It's the second biggest telescope, though. Are you sure that's the name? Eddie? The Carl Lucifer? No, but it was the L-U-I. Go to DuckDuckGo.
Starting point is 02:27:41 Oh, L-U-C-I-A. Originally Lucifer. L-U-C-I-A. Originally Lucifer. L-U-C-I, excuse me. Large Binocular Telescope Near Infrared Stratospheric Utility. It's a coincidence! But they picked certain ones. It's a coincidence, dude. It's a coincidence.
Starting point is 02:27:57 But they picked ones. One letter to you. They had to change the name. Eddie, Jesus Christ. They had to change it. They picked the L. Yeah, they Christ. They had to change it. They picked the L. They skipped like four letters.
Starting point is 02:28:09 That doesn't make any sense. How do they call that Lucifer? Exactly. That's crazy. It was a coincidence. But they only found enough letters for Lucy. I like that. Eddie's on to something here, man.
Starting point is 02:28:21 This is old shit. This is old shit. So when was this telescope created? When was this telescope created? I don't think there, man. This is old shit. This is old shit. So when was this? When was this telescope created? When was this telescope created? I don't know. It's an observatory in Arizona. The Jesuits were always both scientists. But when? What's the art?
Starting point is 02:28:35 Jamie? Scroll up, Jamie. I think it's on the right there. 2004. 2004. That's when they started it. Imagine being a part of a gigantic religious institution and naming a telescope. You could say like the God Eye.
Starting point is 02:28:48 You could call it the God Eye. Yes. How did that work? Can you imagine the meeting where the top three names were like, okay, we got Jesus Eye, we got God of Light, and we got Lucifer. We got Lucifer. Lucifer.
Starting point is 02:29:01 How did that one get picked? Can you imagine the press conference? By Jesuits. When they unveiled this telescope at the Vatican and they call it Lucifer. How did that one get picked? Can you imagine the press conference? By Jesuits. When they unveiled this telescope at the Vatican and they call it Lucifer? How did that get picked? What a weird conversation that must have been. Come on. There had to be one guy opposed to it.
Starting point is 02:29:16 At least one guy. What the fuck are you talking about? Lucifer's the anti-Christ. I know it sounds crazy, but look. are you talking? It means, I know it sounds crazy, but look,
Starting point is 02:29:25 L, lucent, U, universe, C, cosmology, I, interstellar,
Starting point is 02:29:36 F, forever, E, earth, R, radius of earth. Come on, man. We dig it. It's easy.
Starting point is 02:29:45 We dig it. It's easy. And we dig it. Ah! Lucifer. Are you kidding me? But it's Satan. But it's not Satan.
Starting point is 02:29:54 It's not Satan. It's Lucifer. It's an acronym. Okay? It's true. But we are the house of God, and this is Lucifer. It's his enemy. It's a coincidence. It's a coincidence.
Starting point is 02:30:05 It's a coincidence. You didn't even know it was there, right? I didn't know it was there. How did the Vatican relax? The Vatican didn't name a telescope Lucifer. Okay. It's just from Catholic. Okay.
Starting point is 02:30:15 But wait a minute. This is the damage control right here. Why was the Vatican named his telescope an Arizona Lucifer? I'm a proud and devoted Catholic, blah, blah, blah. Answer. The Vatican did not name a telescope Lucifer. The Vatican Observatory shares space, no pun intended, with other organizations and groups. The Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment, nor can it give official
Starting point is 02:30:38 names or nicknames to things it does not own. Another group installed a telescope and nicknamed it Lucifer. That would be hilarious if you had a telescope neck and nicknamed it lucifer that would be hilarious if you had a telescope right next to the vatican's telescope and you named your max come on we have the vision of god to the heavens to prove the gospel like we're in hell and meanwhile okay okay what about the serpent cathedral with the fangs and the snake eyes? It's a coincidence. What about the resurrection sculpture?
Starting point is 02:31:11 Well, you know, the serpent was the reason why we're human. What about Constantine was pagan and said, and even the mainstream history says that he never converted. That was bullshit. That's mainstream. So if he never converted. Constantine? I thought there was some debate. He said he didn't convert.
Starting point is 02:31:27 But the fact that there is a debate. I don't think there's. It was a political decision. Yeah, exactly. So the one theory, and it's either one or the other, he actually did convert to Christ, or he just said that for political purposes, but meanwhile he was still pagan, right?
Starting point is 02:31:45 It's one or the other. And then you start looking at the Vatican, you're like, man, they're the ones who are creating the stuff that turned people away from the Bible. They created the Big Bang Theory. If you believe in the Big Bang Theory, you're like, how could the Bible be true? How could Jesus be in charge
Starting point is 02:32:02 of the Big Bang Theory? There's no God. It's scientific, too. You're right but if you were trying to kill if you were trying to kill religion you want everything that's opposite of the religion right because religion the Bible tells you
Starting point is 02:32:18 that we're on a special place wait wait wait are you saying the Catholic church is trying to kill religion I didn't say that. Is that what you're insinuating? This doesn't make any sense. Eddie, this has become a sacrifice. Don't hack off any dicks.
Starting point is 02:32:32 I have to. I never said that. I never said that. Are we getting pizza? Wait till the pizza arrives. Catholicism. Heavyweight division. I got a little excited about that.
Starting point is 02:32:40 The Catholic Church loves Jesus. Bro, what happens to the heavyweight division? Damn, dude. Do you think Stipe retires? Stipe's having injury issues. Is Stipe Catholic? It won't heal. Well, he's Croatian.
Starting point is 02:32:53 Okay. I don't know what that means. I don't know. A lot of Europeans are Catholic. Might be Orthodox Christian. Serbs are Orthodox Christian. I think France is going to be a champ 2020. Well, what about Rosenstruck?
Starting point is 02:33:04 Jairzino is a fucking monster, man. That is a crazy fight between those two heavyweights. I don't think he's ready for Francis. We don't know. The way he knocked out Alistair and broke his face in half. With three seconds left. Yeah, but he did. He did.
Starting point is 02:33:18 He did. Alistair fought a smart fight, and we just had one mental lap. Did you see what my boy Francis did, Alistair? Yes, he did. Yes. But you also have to take into consideration Alistair is fighting smarter because of that fight. I mean, Alistair's a clever guy. He keeps learning.
Starting point is 02:33:36 The most clever. As weird as it is, that guy hasn't been diminished by so many KOs. He's been KO'd more than anybody in UFC history. I don't think there's a guy that I can name. Maybe like Peter Aerts. Peter Aerts was KO'd some ungodly number of times. He had a ton of competitions, though, so it makes sense.
Starting point is 02:33:54 Alistair, you don't see any signs. Dude, sharp as a tick. It's weird. Tacks aren't that sharp. Well, they are sharp. What kind of tick do you have at your house? Sharp ones. I'm just making sure I'm not so high. I don't think Rosen strikes anybody to be taken lightly.
Starting point is 02:34:12 He could beat anybody. I don't either, but it's also like, Jesus, man. They're both giant, too. You just go from zero to 100 with them. Well, who knows, man? Look, the shots that he took from Alistair, he walked them off like they were nothing. That was one of the craziest aspects of that fight. Like, leading into the fifth round, he was acting like Alistair Overeem,
Starting point is 02:34:29 former K-1 Grand Prix champion, former Strikeforce champion, former Dream champion, one of the best heavyweights really ever. If you had a 20 list of all-time great heavyweights. Oh, he's top ten. He's on both kickboxing and MMA. 100%. Hall of Famer. And Rosenstreich is just walking through his shots.
Starting point is 02:34:44 Picks his time and then closes the show in the last round with like a few seconds to go. You ain't walking through Francis' shots. No. It's a different thing. It's a different thing. But will he fight the same way? Will he fight that way against Francis? I don't know. We don't have enough on him.
Starting point is 02:34:59 I don't know. I'm interested though. I want to see. Me too. I think it's fun. Francis to me is the scariest knockout artist the heavyweight division has ever seen. I don't think there's anybody that comes close. He puts people in orbit. That left hook on Alistair Overeem, that punch is unlike anything I've ever seen in all my years of watching fighting. That was so brutal. So brutal, and it seems like no incredible speed and mass.
Starting point is 02:35:20 You know what's interesting, though, is Stipe did take him. If you go back and watch the Stipe fight, I was there in person. Stipe ate his shots and beat him, man. Well, he never caught him that clean like he did with Alistair that one time. He caught him two or three times. Pretty fucking tasty. Stipe has the biggest head I've ever seen on a human being. Stipe's also good at rolling with shit.
Starting point is 02:35:37 You get that VIP ticket? What's up? For that fight you're talking about? Yeah. At the UFC? Yeah. Connor Cowboy? They don't hate me. I thought they hated you. No, man. They love you now. At the UFC? Yeah. Connor Cowboy? They don't hate me.
Starting point is 02:35:45 I thought they hated you. No, man. They love you now. No, we're all working out. You and Dana, you hug? We're all going to work it out. Have you hugged Dana yet? No.
Starting point is 02:35:52 That's a no. I'm going to get a group hug going. Dude, you need to hug Dana. We don't dislike you. You need to hug Dana. There's no reason. Dana's the godfather. There's no hate for anybody.
Starting point is 02:36:00 Come on, man. No. They don't hate me. Dana's super wealthy now, so it seems like it's fine. It's different. It's different once you're wealthy. What other divisions we got here? You know what's on, man. No, they don't hate me. Dan is super wealthy now, so it seems like it's fine. It's different. It's different once you're wealthy. What other divisions we got here?
Starting point is 02:36:08 You know what's interesting, man? Jared Cannoneer and Robert Whitaker. Ooh, that's coming up, too. My thing, that's a good fight. My thing is, what are you going to do
Starting point is 02:36:16 with Till, though? Because I thought, because Stylebender said he wants Yoel Romero. Then you got Till just hanging there. You just beat Kelvin. Well, I think they're setting up
Starting point is 02:36:22 Stylebender and Yoel Romero. That's what I'm hearing. That's what I heard, too. My position, and this is not, no disrespect, my position that Yoel Romero was
Starting point is 02:36:30 the uncrowned champ. Yoel Romero, I think, beat Whitaker in the second fight. Me, too. And then, but Borrachina, you know,
Starting point is 02:36:36 there's an, that guy scares the fuck, but he's all injured. He's got a bunch of injuries. But you don't think Paulo Costa has, you don't think Paulo Costa beat
Starting point is 02:36:44 Yoel Romero in that fight? No, no, I do think he did. So why would Yoel Romero be the champ? Because, no, no, no, no, no. Yoel Romero was the champ coming from the Whitaker fight. I really believe he beat Whitaker in the second fight. Interesting. He hurt him bad, twice.
Starting point is 02:36:57 For sure. And, you know, it just, if you give those 10, 8 rounds, he wins the fight. Okay. And I think he should have gotten him. I think he had him on Queer Street. Judging is so crazy. It is so crazy so crazy whitaker and it was also over there whitaker was never in a position where he had yoel romero even remotely hurt like that okay never had him in danger then i saw but you know obviously whitaker loses the style bender in spectacular
Starting point is 02:37:18 fashion but when i see yoel romero against paul costa i go well costa obviously is next in line for a shot but then costa 100%. But then Costa gets hurt. Did you lose your plug? Yeah. It's right there on the floor. Right there. Costa got hurt. So Costa's had a couple surgeries.
Starting point is 02:37:32 I think he's had bicep surgery. I think he's bicep detached. I think it was... Jesus Christ. What happened? See with Paulo Costa. He, to me, is one of the most promising guys in the division. Motherfucker never gets tired.
Starting point is 02:37:42 He's got a face like a goddamn fire hydrant. When he beat Yo Romero, I thought he was good. I was never that high. When he beat Yo, I'm like, Jesus Christ. He beat Yo Romero and walked him down. Yeah, didn't give a fuck. Didn't give a fuck. He's a problem.
Starting point is 02:37:56 He's so fucking muscular. He's so big. Shred city. He's so big. He's so big for 185. You're like, how is he going to- He looks like a young Vitor. How does he not get tired?
Starting point is 02:38:03 Dude, when I stand next to that guy, a setback where I recover from a bicep surgery, he won't be ready to fight until spring. Yeah. So that's a serious one, man. When your bicep tears off your bone. That's a problem. That's happened to mine.
Starting point is 02:38:14 It didn't tear off, but it was coming off my shoulder. It was coming off, and I had to restrap that motherfucker. How about your boy Stoutbender called out Yoel, though? He wants to fight him because he's the scariest guy. He's like, I got to fight that guy because that guy's the guy. Stopping is old school. And he's also, he looks at him like stylistically. He wants to find out if he can stop that fucking wrestling and that power.
Starting point is 02:38:33 Yoel is a freak. Yoel never uses his wrestling. Bro, he's because he gets tired. He's 50 years old. Legit 50 years old. We don't even know how old he is. He might be 55. The tubid system.
Starting point is 02:38:42 That's what's impressive. But he was so funny. What's the official word on his age? He's like 47. 41. 57. 82 years old. When he was here, he was talking about Cuba.
Starting point is 02:38:51 Not conspiracy theory. Not YouTube shit. He was here. They always assume that Cubans are fudging their age a little bit. But that's like a stereotype that's been going on since the Olympics. It's racist. To Phil Stevenson. from fucking to phil stevenson but when you when you when he talked about when yoel romero you know would talk about uh genetics and his physique he's like go to cuba walk around he goes everybody
Starting point is 02:39:14 look like me he's like it's true man they got crazy genes man think about how many world-class boxers world-class wrestlers world-class judo people. Hector Lombard. Hector Lombard. Another example. Small players. They get some freaks, man. Yes, man. I ran into him at that Quintet Ultra show.
Starting point is 02:39:30 Amazing box. Hector Lombard. Dude, I love that guy. He's a beast. He's so fucking hilarious. The fight is done. Israel Adesanya confirms he is set to defend
Starting point is 02:39:37 the middleweight title against Yoel Romero. What's the date? What's the date on that? They have a name, date, and venue. Is that a today? Yoel has trouble making 85 or no? Yes. He does. He's the date? What's the date on that? They have a name, date, and venue. Is that a today?
Starting point is 02:39:47 Yoel has trouble making 85 or no? Yes. He does. Yeah, he's missed weight. That's why he wasn't a champion. I mean, he struggles. He struggles a little bit. But, I mean, that's when he knocked out Luke Rockhold.
Starting point is 02:39:55 He should have won the title. Yeah, but he missed the weight. But he didn't have the weight. But I think Stylebender, though. I like Stylebender's chances in that. Hey, man, you know what? I do, too. I think Style's his time clearly one of the best middleweights we've ever seen dude his striking is for uzman uzman is to me i see uh like a term when you see uzman you see a
Starting point is 02:40:18 terminator he's going through motherfuckers when you see see Stylebender, you see like a Bruce Lee. He's ahead of the game. AI motherfucker. Stylebender, though, it's very subtle. You actually never see him get, nobody gets a shot off him clear. Well, Gaslam does.
Starting point is 02:40:35 But not clean. How dare you? No, no, no, that's true. You didn't watch that, right? No, I did. I saw that. His face was all fucked. That's true.
Starting point is 02:40:40 Hit the showers. That is true. That is true. Hit the showers. Gaslam, For his physicality And his size And what he's working with Is another one of those guys
Starting point is 02:40:48 Like Daniel Cormier Who's so impressive to me Gaslam's a tank man He needs to be a 170 I think I think so too I think he's a really good Tough cut for him
Starting point is 02:40:56 A 170 He needs a real nutrition Yeah He needs to not get so big Outside of the fight I think a 170 Kelvin just runs Through motherfuckers
Starting point is 02:41:04 He might be the world champion at 170. I think he'd be world champion at 170. I believe that. We just have to get him. I think he'd knock dudes out. It's like we're a plan. But if someone did get him to a real nutritionist, and he did it Jose Aldo style,
Starting point is 02:41:16 where he took his time and did it over a long period of time correctly. Where is he training? It's hard for Mexicans. I think he's king. We love food. It is. Eddie's one of his coaches. Oh, you are?
Starting point is 02:41:27 He's a 10th planet black belt. He's phenomenal, man. Yeah. He'd be champion. He trains at King's MMA and then his jiu-jitsu. He trains with Victor Davila, one of my other black belts. He was at the comedy store last night, I heard. Who?
Starting point is 02:41:37 Was he? Kelvin? Oh, Kelvin loves comedy store. Yeah, he's always there. He's a great guy. He's a great guy as well. He's a great fighter. Kelvin is one of the nicest guys of all time. He's always there. He's a great guy. He's a great guy as well. He's a great fighter. Kelvin is one of the- He's so tough, though.
Starting point is 02:41:45 The nicest- Is he? Guys of all time. He's so nice. He's so shockingly tough, though. I look at his body. I look at him and I go- Zero fear.
Starting point is 02:41:53 There's no reason he should be that tough. There's no reason he should be able to hit guys who are that much taller. And he's just- He's astonishing to me. Yeah. Zero fear and just the nicest guy. When he fights, there's no anxiety ever with him, dude. Never.
Starting point is 02:42:07 He loves it. He's like Tony. Him and Tony just go out there. You haven't started camp, though, for Tony, right? Not yet. Not quite. He's always training. He's always training, but the camp won't stop.
Starting point is 02:42:19 If one of those two get hurt, man, I'm going to freak the fuck out. What does Tony do when he's not in camp? He's training. Everything's going on with your phone, bro? Your government recording house? No, I just have my phone on. He trains every day? Tony's training every day, man.
Starting point is 02:42:34 He's just... His secret weapon is that that's his default setting, is train, do cardio, do some kind of shit. He's doing something every day. He just loves it.
Starting point is 02:42:48 Yeah, yeah. Those are the guys that never get out of shape. Dude, how about your boy Volkanovsky? What about him? He's a monster. Oh, he's a beast. He's being tough. Wilder's going to beat that kid.
Starting point is 02:42:57 He's a guy who beat Uriah? I'm really curious to see how- Max Holloway. Max Holloway. I'm really curious to see how- Just please, go take a leak. Hit the fucking showers I'm sorry
Starting point is 02:43:06 I'm bad with the Russian names Who beat Uriah Who beat Uriah The Russian guy What's his name I don't remember Piotr Piotr what
Starting point is 02:43:12 Piotr Vasilyanis Jan you piece of shit It seems like more and more Russians Are just More Russians are coming in And fucking people up right With so many animals That's gonna be like
Starting point is 02:43:21 They're built different man They have extra tendons and shit They're harder Like Dagestan They have extra tendons and shit. They're harder. They're harder. Is there a big heavyweight Russian that has a promise? A few guys, yeah. No one that stands out
Starting point is 02:43:33 where you look at him and you go, well, Usyk in boxing. Nobody like Drago? What do you think about Usyk moving up to legitimate heavyweight? I think he's going to fuck dudes up.
Starting point is 02:43:41 You think so? I think people are scared of him, yeah. I'm really interested to see him against... When you get to the top of the heap. I think he's going to fuck dudes up. You think so? I think people are scared of him, yeah. I'm really interested to see him against, you know, when you get to the top of the heap. I think he's going to
Starting point is 02:43:49 get in problems. Isn't he too small for those guys? No, he's so talented, man. There's no Drago guy like this ferocious guy.
Starting point is 02:43:56 U6 is going to be the closest thing. He's going to be a problem. U6 had one fight at heavyweight. One fight at heavyweight. And then they're
Starting point is 02:44:01 already moving him into title position. Oh, yeah. He's there. Yeah. I don't know. Can you imagine a Khabib at 205 or a Khabib at heavyweight And then They're already moving him Into like title position Oh yeah He's there Yeah I don't know Him against Can you imagine a Khabib
Starting point is 02:44:07 At 205 Or a Khabib at heavyweight Something like that I think Khabib is going to fight At 170 before he's done I really do I think he's going to fight Where he doesn't have to worry
Starting point is 02:44:15 About cutting weight It'd be him and St. Pierre At 70 then Because he's not fighting Just the boys at 70 Well they would meet at 65 I think St. Pierre said That he could legitimately
Starting point is 02:44:23 Get to 65 And they could do A catchweight fight Khabib would go to. I think St. Pierre said that he could legitimately get to 65 and they could do a catchweight fight. Khabib would go to 70 though, I bet. Big fight. Yeah. What a fight that would be.
Starting point is 02:44:29 Khabib and GSP at 65. How old is GSP now? He's 37. He's still young. He still wants to fight for sure? Yes, and he's one of those guys like Tony. He's consistently active.
Starting point is 02:44:38 That boy was thick against Bisping. He looked great. Yeah. But he said he had a real problem for that fight. He was eating too much. He was thick.
Starting point is 02:44:44 He said he was having digestion problems because he had to consume so many that fight He was eating too much He said he's just like Like he's having digestion problems Yeah, you can tell Because he had to consume so many calories to stay that big He looked a little Yeah Yeah, so he's Doing a lot of water exercises
Starting point is 02:44:53 He puts these GSP puts these things on his hands and his feet He does all these crazy water I used to do it with him Yeah? How was it? We used to do it in Laguna Niguel It'd be our workout
Starting point is 02:45:04 We'd be in the pool for an hour. And he has these things. It's just like... You're doing sprints? No. It's almost like you grab these handles. There he is. Joseph Pierre.
Starting point is 02:45:14 And what does it do? It's a workout. For your shoulders, your condition. It's a fucking beast. Give me some volume on this so I can hear what he's saying. Can we get some volume? Damn. What are those things he has in
Starting point is 02:45:25 his hands and also improve the core strength so what i'm gonna do is i i use the pool i try to be in a place where it's not too deep uh if the depth of the pool is not good enough like like this right now i try to submerge myself to the shoulder then what i do is i i i make a punch and i go with rotation and supination in the same time as i'm doing it i focus on pushing but also on pulling that's not easy that's why he's got a stiff jab that's the jab right there i can do a set of 230 there's also no punishment On your bones or body That's cool You say 230 or 240
Starting point is 02:46:08 So does 230 of those One thing I noticed about him Is his fucking legs He's got huge legs It's all in jeans Don't look at his legs dude Bro how about that video I sent you
Starting point is 02:46:17 That guy live streaming the war Oh Jesus Christ That depressed me Jamie you wanna see this I thought What the fuck, man? What kind of a world are we living in? The guy's just like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:29 How, how? Boom! His boy's behind him. What happened? What was that? Hey, were those Americans? When was that? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:46:36 I don't think so. Was that like 10 years ago or something? No, I think that's a real reason. I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to send it to you right now, Jamie. You haven't seen it? Oh, you saw it, right?
Starting point is 02:46:44 It was in the group chat. Yeah, I saw it. It was fucked up, dude. That shit could be easily faked these days now. Oh, Andy, Jesus Christ. No, they got apps where people can blow shit up now. Right, but I don't think that was fake. $2.50.
Starting point is 02:46:56 We also have dudes who are actually fighting in a war who have cell phones. And they're actually getting cell phones. Watch this. Look behind. Look behind. Oh. Bro, that Look behind. Look behind. Oh. That shit is real as fuck. That was real.
Starting point is 02:47:09 Real as fuck. I just don't know if this is American troops. Probably. Does it say, Jamie? God. Jesus Christ. Dog. When you see bodies go flying and shit, you realize everyone's gone.
Starting point is 02:47:22 I hope they didn't. You'd probably be better off without your seatbelts. Is that American? I don't know what that is. Jesus Christ. That guy looks like he was... The guys who got hit looked like they were probably not on our side. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:47:34 That looks like an IED or something. Damn. I don't know. I just hope nothing happens with this Iran shit. Nothing's going to happen. Nothing's going to happen. Oh, well, now that Eddie said it, I know you've kept abreast of... Nothing's going to happen.
Starting point is 02:47:45 I don't think it's in Iran's vested interest to really do something serious. You know what? I mean, we talked about this earlier. What actually happened is when they bombed, when Iran, like they swore revenge, they raised their red flag, and they were going to bomb. Twice, man. They bombed and they killed nobody. But in their media, they reported that they killed 30 Americans.
Starting point is 02:48:03 So it looks like a real retaliation. Got a safe face. That's what it's all about. Got to rattle swords. Because when it all comes down, dude, we're surrounding, we got military bases all around Iran. What are they going to do? They know that. I feel like if the intelligence hadn't come back, that there was something imminent.
Starting point is 02:48:21 This guy, we knew this guy, he was in Baghdad. He wasn't doing things that were this guy's a serious terrorist things that were in our interest no no we do know that going back to actually bush too we know that he he was a the mastermind of a lot of this yeah sort of international to be taken out controlling hezbollah trying to set up those kinds of states and all these other things so if trump wouldn't have taken him out then the loony left would be going after him for not taking him out. Well, here's the thing, also. Trump has been very disengaged
Starting point is 02:48:51 with the Middle East. He's like, I don't want to be involved in the Middle East. You want to pull the troops out of the Middle East. In a lot of ways, I agree with this policy. And I think that Iran got emboldened and started becoming more active in the spheres of influence that we are trying to... Well, what happened was, is they made a lot of deals while Obama was in office,
Starting point is 02:49:09 and Trump was like reneging on all that. He's like, who made these stupid-ass deals? So Iran's like, fuck you. I thought we had a deal. Trump's like, fuck that deal. That deal goes against the United States. So fuck all that. That's what's going on.
Starting point is 02:49:21 So fuck all that. That's what's going on. So the rumor is that the president of Iran wasn't getting along with Soleimani anyways. So Trump said, let's take him out. I'll do you a favor. I look like a bad motherfucker. And then you say we're going to get revenge. You bomb a base that has nobody.
Starting point is 02:49:46 You claim that there's 30 people. everybody in Iran goes oh we got revenge and then everybody's fine I can see that nobody wants World War 3 who wants that shit who's working tonight we're on the same card I gotta go see my kids first time
Starting point is 02:50:01 none of you bitches are going anywhere we just got started, dude. We talked about three fights. It's six o'clock. You don't have nowhere to be. All I gotta do is a 7-15 show. No, no. I gotta put my son to bed.
Starting point is 02:50:14 So, Hudo's vacating the flyweight title. Makes sense. So, our boy, Joseph Benavidez, finally gets a title against a Brazilian gentleman who pull up his name, Jamie. I don't want to fuck up the pronunciation. It's tough to remember any flyweights. Can we talk about Connor and Cowboy, please? We already did, but you weren't here.
Starting point is 02:50:31 You missed it, dude. What's your call? And I talked to Luke Thomas about it for an hour straight. It can go either way. It can go either way. Maybe, I mean, who the fuck knows? Figueredo. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 02:50:43 Davidson Figueredo. He's a beast. That'll probably be the last one in the division, huh? Heiredo. Yeah, that's right. Davidson Figueiredo. He's a beast. That'll probably be the last one in the division. He's a dangerous dude, man. You know, Joe Benavidez has been training 10th Planet the last couple years. I don't know if you know that. Has he? Where?
Starting point is 02:50:53 Las Vegas? Yeah, 10th Planet Las Vegas with Casey Halstead as his coach. Nice. Beautiful. I love Joe as a person. I'm a big fan of him. He's one of my favorite people. And I feel like, you know, for him, he had an ACL tear, had to go through surgery, came back, and then him He's one of my favorite people And I feel like You know for him He had an ACL tear
Starting point is 02:51:05 Had to go through surgery Came back And then the title's Kind of been in limbo Had a close fight With Henry Cejudo man Very close fight Split decision
Starting point is 02:51:12 Very close fight Didn't he win? Yes He won He beat Henry Cejudo He's one of the few guys That beat Henry Cejudo So if anybody deserves
Starting point is 02:51:20 A shot at the title It's Joe Benavidez For sure I'm real interested in that rematch between Volkanovski and Max. That's happening immediately? I don't know. I would imagine you would have a rematch. Is that a good thing to make immediate rematches?
Starting point is 02:51:34 Max said something. He's like, I need some time. I'm going to rest. Maybe he wants it now. They want to do it in Australia. Volkanovski wants a rest too. Here's the thing. 145? People talk about 55. People talk about 55. People talk about 70.
Starting point is 02:51:47 People talk about 145 in the UFC. That might be the deepest division. Bro, how about the Korean zombie taking out Frank Jaeger quick? I was surprised. So you got Korean zombie. You got Yair Rodriguez. Your body looks deep. You got your boy fucking the hormone monster.
Starting point is 02:52:02 What's that, 135? You're talking 35 or 45? 45. You also have Calvin Cater, who almost took 45 Zabit's the freak Calvin Cater Who almost took out Zabit In the third round Correct Brian Ortega
Starting point is 02:52:09 But Calvin Cater Is now going to fight Jeremy Stevenson That's a crazy fight Dude that Calvin Cater Is the dark horse He's the dark horse He's phenomenal
Starting point is 02:52:17 He's the dark horse But Zabit beat him No no no Let me tell you something Zabit If that was a five round fight Zabit was in trouble Big trouble
Starting point is 02:52:24 That third round He was getting stunned. He was on his bike. You watched the interview, the post-fight interview, which I just watched the whole fight and the interview this week. And at the end of the fight, he was heaving, breathing hard. I did not expect him to come after me so hard in the third round. And he took him down at the end of the third round, just held on. And while he's just holding on, Calvin Cater is battering him from the bottom.
Starting point is 02:52:47 He didn't try to get back up. He just punished him from the bottom. And Zabit did zero damage with that takedown. 45 is the best division in the UFC. Calvin's fucking dangerous. And he's getting better. He's getting better and better and better. He starched Ricardo Lamas.
Starting point is 02:53:00 He's a fucking beast, man. What do you guys think about Bryce Mitchell? Is he rising at 45 or is it 55? He'd be 55, right? The guy who won submission of the year. With the Twister? The Twister, yeah. He's 55, right? Oh, isn't he 45?
Starting point is 02:53:17 I don't know. How many fights does he have in the UFC right now? I don't know, man. All I know is that he's got a Twister. That's it. He said he learned it online. That's awesome. Did you see his interview with Theo Vaughn? No, I didn't.
Starting point is 02:53:30 Dude, you got to watch that interview with Theo Vaughn. It's two dudes from fucking Arkansas and Alabama and Louisiana. It's hilarious. That's so funny. He's like, he's the Theo Vaughn of the UFC. He's hilarious. The camera pants. The camera shorts. Oh, yeah. He's hilarious. The camel pants. The camel shorts.
Starting point is 02:53:46 Oh, yeah. He's hilarious. I love that guy. Sugar Sean O'Malley's finally get back in the game. He fought in Quintet Ultra. He got fucked. He got fucked over. He's one of the guys that got fucked.
Starting point is 02:53:54 Bro, speaking about getting fucked over, how about Cub Swanson? Rolling with Jake Shields. Yeah. Did you guys watch that? His ACL explodes. You got to get on UFC Fight Pass And watch Quintet Ultra God I cancel UFC Fight Pass You cancel it?
Starting point is 02:54:08 Cub fights at 145 Jake obviously When MMA was fighting He was fighting at 170 He's way bigger guy He walks around at 190 He's a bit He's probably bigger than that
Starting point is 02:54:16 And he had a A ridiculous reap Like it was a Exaggerated reap On that leg man It was like Wait It wasn't even a reap
Starting point is 02:54:24 In between the legs It was a reap it wasn't even a reap in between the legs. It was a reap across the hip. And blew Cub's shit out. Dude, his leg just blew out. It was really fucked up. It wasn't even a submission. It was in the process of essentially...
Starting point is 02:54:34 Yeah, he's reaping the leg. Jesus, man. It was so bad. He's pop! And you see him, and he falls down. And then you look at Cub. Game set, man.
Starting point is 02:54:42 Married kids. Only source of income. Going to be out for a year. Yeah. How about that? How about that? You're just laying there. For a grappling match, you just beat Chrome Gracie.
Starting point is 02:54:54 And now you're in a position where you're out 100% for a year at 36. It sucks. Totally. I would not fucking do a grappling match if I was a world-class MMA fighter. Don't say that. Don't fuck up the grappling scene. I wouldn't do it. Depends who I am.
Starting point is 02:55:06 It's not worth it. Edit that out, Jamie. No, it's not worth it. Edit that out. It depends who I am. I apologize again to the Queen of England. I fell.
Starting point is 02:55:13 I stepped out of line. I blame it on alcohol and marijuana. I'm glad marijuana's illegal in your country, ma'am. Hey, listen, I will say this. When the Queen was 19,
Starting point is 02:55:22 look her up. Stunning. Now it's even worse. Seriously. We've sexualized her. Stunning. Now it's even worse. Seriously. We've sexualized her. Now you've gone too far. You've pornographized her. And she was super nice.
Starting point is 02:55:31 I don't think that world-class fighters should be fucking jet skiing, and I don't think they should be fucking jumping motorcycles over cliffs. Cowboy says, hold my fucking beard. I know. Cowboy should be able to do whatever he wants. Cowboy cave dives. But if I was tight with Cowboy, would say dude it's not worth the risk Obviously he doesn't care
Starting point is 02:55:48 And he would laugh He'd laugh in my face That's who he is man He is who he is But like legitimately You look at Cub Swanson That guy just ran into a giant problem That shouldn't have existed
Starting point is 02:55:58 The position wouldn't have been available in MMA The way it was in grappling That could happen in training though with Cub too. But he wouldn't be grappling in a competitive manner against a guy who's 30 pounds larger than him. Jake is so strong. At Jackson's though I'm sure he worked with big guys.
Starting point is 02:56:15 It was a freak thing. It could happen. But it was competition. It could have happened in practice. But less likely. It was a freak thing. It was a freak thing. It was a freak thing. It was a great show, though. So did Gordon Ryan really retire?
Starting point is 02:56:30 Is that real? I think so. Why not, right? He should do MMA, though, right? He should. I thought he said he was. All I know is he was on a trip, road trip, doing seminars everywhere, selling out and shit. And then something happened where he decided
Starting point is 02:56:45 he was like you know what let me slow down and enjoy life what a baller that's what he said that's what he said so how old is he i don't know 24 maybe 24 maybe he did some mushrooms or something and realized the best in the world you don't get to go at 24 you don't like all right yeah you do though right tell us again about tell us again about Bohemian Grove. Yeah. Just to fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off, man. Every time you're going to try to make a point, we're going to bring up Bohemian Grove. You're like, ah!
Starting point is 02:57:16 Come on. Tell us about 24. Fuck that Bohemian Grove. Hey, I didn't. That video was very blurry, dude. I don't know. That was a corn content. That was like UFO shit. He said it was a corn thing.
Starting point is 02:57:27 Yes. Being retired gives me an opportunity to expand on things I didn't have time to focus on while I was trying to be the best, excited to learn. That's cool. You know what? As far as what he's accomplished in jujitsu, he's done more than most people. So if he wants to retire, he can retire. But also, maybe he wants to retire He can retire But also maybe
Starting point is 02:57:45 He wants to do other shit I'm out Fuck it dude I'm over this jiu jitsu thing I'm gonna go do this You know what he could do Seriously All he needs to do
Starting point is 02:57:52 Is just open up a school He'll have 400 500 students He'll make about 60, 70 grand a month And it'll be a nice Easy life We might not want that though
Starting point is 02:58:03 Some guys just want To get done with the game No no no He wants to teach No no He wants to teach Does he? All he's gotta do Is open a school be a nice easy life. You might not want that though. Some guys just want to get done with the game. No, no, no. He wants to teach. No, no. He wants to teach. Does he?
Starting point is 02:58:09 All he's got to do is open a school. He'll have three, 400 students easy. He'll make 60, 70K a month easy. And he'll just be chilling, just training guys. That's the easy life. Hey, Brian Callen. He's already beaten fucking pretty much everybody out there.
Starting point is 02:58:23 I have a proposition for you, Brian Callen. Steve Rinello sent me a bunch of dates. he wants us to come and do his live podcast he offered it to me in anaheim i'll do it but i was out of town um let's let's fly in somewhere and go do his live podcast somewhere just for fun i'd love to do that have a good time and i want to go hunting now we can do it in new zealand my boy joe janimore offered us that too far i don't want to go to new zealand okay so you can't bring the meat back. You got some connections in New Zealand?
Starting point is 02:58:45 Oh no that's not true. Brian Callen. You can't bring the meat back from Australia I think. I think you can bring the meat back from Australia.
Starting point is 02:58:52 We need to go hunting somewhere. It's so much fun and it's sad. You don't fucking care. I do care. You know what?
Starting point is 02:58:59 Brian he does care about you. Brian. Can I have that? Is that the only one you have? That's the only can I have that is that the only one you have that's the only one I have dude that is scary
Starting point is 02:59:10 that's a legit Aztec Mexican death whistle I'm getting chills right now like some dark evil spirit just
Starting point is 02:59:17 hey for reals I'm leaving though I gotta put my kid to bed I have to before he goes is everybody leaving or is it just me
Starting point is 02:59:23 and Eddie I'm leaving come see me in Nashville. No, you got a show tonight with me at the store, bro. And I got Nashville tomorrow. What time is your show? Tonight? We're on the main room at 8.
Starting point is 02:59:31 Oh, okay. Main room at 8. Who's doing that? Who's show is that? Josh Adam Myers. Okay. I will... I'll keep going with Eddie for a little bit.
Starting point is 02:59:39 You guys get out of here. Come see me in Cleveland at the end of the month, too. I'm going to convention in the world is round. Oh, do it. Oh, shit. I'll see you guys next week. This is a talk about my... Go to my website and talk about, too. I'm going to convention in the world is round. Oh, do it. Oh, shit. I'll see you guys next time. Go to my website and talk about my dates. I'm in San Jose next week.
Starting point is 02:59:49 How's your show doing? Is your show doing good? Yeah. BrianCowen.com. T5K.com. B-R-Y. West Palm Beach Improv. Oh, when are you there?
Starting point is 02:59:58 I'm there Valentine's Day. Oh, adorable. In Cleveland, I'm at Hilarity's. I love that place. January 30th, 31st. Hilarity's I love that place January 30, 31 Hilarity's the shit Is that Fort Lauderdale West Palm Beach
Starting point is 03:00:07 Yeah You can take that Lolita Express Right there West Palm Okay I fly in It's right there
Starting point is 03:00:13 BrianCown.com All these guys are opening for me TFatK.com I love you guys We should do a Fight Companion show boys We really should We should do a show somewhere
Starting point is 03:00:23 At a theater We're doing a show at a theater like all of us do stand up we did that at the ice house yeah we could do
Starting point is 03:00:30 more of those did we do it yeah we did we did one at the ice house we did one at the ice house let's do it like in places like it wasn't an official
Starting point is 03:00:36 fight camp fight companion show we were all it was the four of us let's do it nobody can hear you motherfucker do you understand
Starting point is 03:00:43 microphones get up on that bitch let's do it like you know let's go like to, nobody can hear you, motherfucker. Do you understand microphones? Get up on that bitch. Let's do it in like, you know, let's do like, like British Columbia, places like that. Fucking Canada.
Starting point is 03:00:51 Okay. You know what I mean? Let's do a fucking tour. Canada? Make money. I'm down. I'm down to do a tour. Let's do it.
Starting point is 03:00:57 We'll talk. Just four dates. Four dates. That's it. Four dates is good. Fine. Let's do it. That's a good number.
Starting point is 03:01:02 All right. Dude, we would pass that shit up. Thank you. Love you, dog. Be careful. Drive safe. Don't give up your's do it. That's a good number. Dude, we would pass that shit up. Thank you. Love you, dog. Be careful. Drive safe. Don't give up your back, bitch.
Starting point is 03:01:09 That's Gordon Ryan right there. That's Gordon Ryan right there. Stop, boy. Stop. Stop. He's going to grab your dick. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 03:01:16 Okay. Brian Callen, ladies and gentlemen. Joe on a fucking zone. You just want to keep going. I love that shit. You're like, fuck those dudes. Well, you and me, we don't get a chance to hang that much.
Starting point is 03:01:28 They have to go. We don't have to go. I don't have to go nowhere. I don't have to be anywhere until 7 o'clock. That's 40 minutes from now. Oh, shit. I'm good. Where are you going?
Starting point is 03:01:35 Son, I just got family shit to do. No spots tonight? I have a spot tonight. Where at? I'm at the store at, I think I'm at 1015. I have to check my schedule. You're doing next Tuesday tuesday night that's probably already sold out as soon as you're on there it's sold out i don't know
Starting point is 03:01:52 no as soon as you're on it sells and joey's on you and joey i think whitney's on too you and whitney's the late show oh okay you and joey at eight o'clock at the comedy store i am sure it's sold out and then i'm leaving and going across the Comedy Store, I'm sure it's sold out. I'm sure. And then I'm leaving and going across the street to the improv, going down the street. I have a 10.30 at the improv on Tuesday. Yeah, I've been doing the improv a lot, man. I like it.
Starting point is 03:02:14 I like it. I did it once. I'm trying to juice it back up, too. I'm trying to bring everybody over there. I'm like, hey, guys, we can go both places. You can do an 8 o'clock at the improv, a 10 o'clock at the store. You can bounce back and forth. You don't fuck with La actor not really there's enough gravy to go around for two two
Starting point is 03:02:29 great clubs i think i like the way they handle things at the improv they're nice people you know the people that run it are cool i've been going there forever and they kind of took me in after i left the store so i feel obligated to like continue to perform totally totally yeah I like it there man Paige is awesome Rita's awesome the people that run it are awesome it's cool
Starting point is 03:02:50 and it's right across the street from a weed store I did improv once and Laugh Factory once the improv show I did with Tony Hinchcliffe he had his friend show
Starting point is 03:03:01 that one great you know how his Alabama bit about how yes alabama don't give it up but yes dude hilarious it just so happened that that week i had 10 motherfuckers from alabama 10th planet decatur alabama come in and come to see me do a live show at the improv they were all there from alabama and three of them were cops oh no and they're mad at tony no no they loved it they loved it no no no but come on that's hilarious he's got that alabama bit it's a funny bit yeah it's a it's amazing and they all loved it they
Starting point is 03:03:39 all loved it man have you seen his me too movie bit no i'm not saying nothing we'll talk later i love tony he's hilarious man he's out there swinging that guy's a beast that kid's swinging Have you seen his Me Too movie bit? No. I'm not saying nothing. We'll talk later. I love Tony Hinchcliffe. He's hilarious, man. That guy's a fucking beast. He's out there swinging. That guy's a beast, man. That kid's swinging. He works hard, man.
Starting point is 03:03:51 I've known Tony for a long time. He works hard. And like we were talking about earlier, I really am happy that the comedy scene is slowly getting braver with jokes. It seems like it's a weird thing because in the 80s, it was like the cool thing to be a liberal
Starting point is 03:04:10 and I'm Democrat and Republicans. They're just Christians. They have family values. They don't want to get hired, go to heavy metal concerts, fuck Republicans. But as you get older and you have kids, and I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 03:04:24 I don't know what happened i don't know what happened but it seems like now the cool kids are republicans well do you know that expression show me a young man who's not a liberal and i'll show you a man with no heart show me an old man who's not conservative and i'll show you a man with no brain there you go there's certain aspects of me that have become more conservative as i've gotten older i've like appreciate hard work more i i understand like the mental pitfalls involved in self-pity and a lot of family values man that's the number one thing because when i grew up there were no family values and i thought family values is a way to control you they're trying to control you with the family values in
Starting point is 03:05:01 christ yeah and the older you get you're're like, I was a fucking idiot. Of course it's all about family. You've got to have values. A dude with no values is a dude you can't trust worth a shit. I ain't going to trust. It's also when you have something to lose, you realize that everybody has something to lose. You commiserate with all the other people that also have families.
Starting point is 03:05:28 That's one thing when you go to family gatherings and everyone's got their kids like you feel about their kids the way you feel about your kids like you want to look out he's going near the stairs like you don't this is what communities and tribes used to be like yeah like we gravitate towards that it's good for everybody yeah it's a you know what um i used to think growing up that giving into your desires was like that's your right that's my right if i'm horny i'm gonna fuck if i want to party i'm gonna drink and these fucking right-wing people from alabama they're trying to throw jesus down my throat and trying to push you know push their family values and but I swear, now, dude, I'm not Republican. I'm not claiming Republican at all or anything, but I get it now.
Starting point is 03:06:09 I get it. Because I have a kid, and there's no way anybody is going to convince me that because some fucking kid with pink hair all looped up on pharmaceuticals shoots up a mall, that it makes sense that I give up my guns and I can't protect my family. These are long – we're going to get into the weeds.
Starting point is 03:06:31 Explain that to me. We're going to get in the weeds and we branch off into all these different directions. But I know what you're saying is as you get older, especially when you have family, what it's made me is it's made me way more compassionate and way more understanding. I'm still not great at it i still fuck up sometimes i'm i'm a human you know humans fluctuate we don't we're not a perfect thing but overlying when my boat writes itself when i figure out where my head is really at my thought process is always i want things to be better for everybody like i think it's possible that if we all work together everything could be way smoother there could be less lows and really and highs
Starting point is 03:07:11 there would be some smooth level ground we could help each other the problem is when some people have nothing and other people have everything and it looks like chaos and then there's a battle between ideas and then people want you to comply and And there's so much crazy shit that's going on as you get older. And like people are looking for control of something that's ultimately your life, which is uncontrollable. Well, what you're saying is 100% correct.
Starting point is 03:07:36 Everything you're saying is right. The problem in that, what fucks everything up is people getting blackmailed and people being compromised. And those are the people that are making the laws. And those laws affect my family. That's where it gets all fucked up because everything you're saying is right.
Starting point is 03:07:54 But that's not what these people, these certain people, not everybody. There's a lot of good people in the government, a lot of good people. And I'm fascinated every day finding out who they are and then boom you group them all together like those are the good guys those are the bad guys let's watch and you make your popcorn and you watch the fucking show you know what i mean and every now and then you say something that because it's affecting my family so anytime someone says oh there's a school shooting now immediately let's take away the guns. Like, dude, that is the most retarded solution to these mass shootings. Is take away my right to defend my family against home invasions?
Starting point is 03:08:33 I understand what you're saying. That's ridiculous. I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you. But I understand why they would come to that conclusion, especially if they don't understand what does happen. especially if they don't understand what does happen if you look at a place like i mean i don't want to say hong kong should have guns because if then they did they would throw away their tyrannical rulers they wouldn't have to just protest in the streets in mass with hundreds of thousands of people for months and months at a time i'm not saying that they should be out shooting people but you you've seen those videos in hong kong where the police are shooting
Starting point is 03:09:01 protesters that's what i'm talking about this is man. But this is the other side of the coin. That's a different level. The thing about school shootings and protests and tyrannical governments is that humans are messy. There's no clear, simple answer. It's like, look, if you have a small fire in front of you and you have a bucket of water and you want to put out that fire, there a very very easy to get to answer it's right there it's a bucket you throw the bucket of water on the fire it puts the fire out no one would argue that the problem with all these really subtle nuanced complicated super complex problems is there isn't one answer to it there's a but like, the issue of gun violence.
Starting point is 03:09:46 You know, I had a tweet that I put out, it was probably, like, my most liked tweet ever, that I said that, what was the exact tweet? What did I say about gun control? We have a mental health issue described, disguised as a gun control issue and tyranny described disguised as uh as government i forget how i said it but the point being that this is a mental health issue it's not an issue of of guns as much as people the country has a mental health problem
Starting point is 03:10:21 disguised a gun problem and a tyranny problem disguised a security problem well everything you're saying is correct but the problem is it's not about uh getting it's not about doing the right thing to these these people that are in positions to make these laws they they're they are using these events to push their gun confiscation laws. They are. That's what's going on. Because they think that's the solution. You're talking common sense. You're talking common sense.
Starting point is 03:10:50 But it's not common sense with these people. These people are just like, ooh, we could use that. Boom, push another executive order. Boom, little by little, inch by inch, we're going to take their fucking guns away. You had a guy on just the other day, Ed Calderon.
Starting point is 03:11:02 I took a little, like one minute little piece of your podcast, and I put it on my social other day, Ed Calderon. I took a little, like one minute, little piece of your podcast and I put it on my social media today, this morning. And it was him saying, I love this country. I'm new to this country, but there's a, there's a couple of things where I see it headed that I'm not into. And you were like, what, like what, like what? And he goes, well, I left my country because I didn't have the right to protect myself from the bad guys. It was the government and the criminals. You know, now here, you guys got that right.
Starting point is 03:11:27 And now you guys, it's like being threatened. He goes, that's not good. Coming from where I came from, trust me, you want to be able to protect your family. It just all comes down to that. Give me a reason. Explain to me how giving up my guns makes sense in protecting my family if you give me a good reason then i'll give them up i haven't heard a good reason yet well it's a plea to emotions because the reality is when you look at the number of guns versus the number of incidents i don't i don't want to
Starting point is 03:11:57 diminish anybody's death or anybody's family member's death but the number of guns in this country is fucking staggering when you compare it to the number of actual gun violence incidents or mass shooting incidents it's relatively small and then the problem is when you compare the number of those people who are mass shooters you look at that number versus what percentage of them were on drugs psychiatric drugs and it's fucking gigantic yeah i don't say that that's the cause yeah i'm not saying that's the cause but if there's one correlation that we all need to look at that's one of them man yeah as much as guns the way i look at it is like to me all that matters is my
Starting point is 03:12:35 son and my wife i don't care what happens at that school or that mall or that school or that mall or that school or that mall all i school or that mall. All I know is I want to protect my family. I know you do. I'm going to protect them. But you care about your community. That's it. You care about your friends.
Starting point is 03:12:51 You care about a lot of people. This is that thing that people get to when they get real defensive and scared, when they're really worried about the outside world. They say,
Starting point is 03:12:59 it's just about us. It's about us. It's about us. I just want to protect my family. I understand you do, but we shouldn't even have, there shouldn't be a concern. And I think if everybody lived in harmony, there'd be way less of a concern. You're talking about some utopia that it's too late to achieve this gun-free utopia.
Starting point is 03:13:15 That's enough. I'm not talking about gun-free utopia. I would never say that. Okay. I mean community. That's what it sounded like you were saying. No, I'm the opposite. I think that a well-armed society is a polite society.
Starting point is 03:13:26 Yeah, like Texas. I really do believe that. Texas is one of my favorite places to go. And it's an interesting experiment. I'm not saying no. You see that church incident? That church incident? Yes, where a guy pulls out a gun.
Starting point is 03:13:35 Everyone comes out, the old lady came out and said, what? Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm talking about. You remember my bit that I used to have about the Draw Muhammad contest that they did in Texas?
Starting point is 03:13:43 Mm-mm. There's a Charlie Hebdo, you know the magazine? Charlie Hebdo is the draw Muhammad contest that they did in Texas there's a Charlie Hebdo you know the magazine Charlie Hebdo is this magazine in Paris and they did a cartoon about Muhammad you're not supposed to draw Muhammad well they killed everyone that worked there they killed like nine people they killed police officer it was a really big issue huge international issue everybody was in terrified everybody's like fuck did that have something to do with South Park listen listen no no the New York Times wouldn't draw the pictures. They wouldn't print the pictures.
Starting point is 03:14:08 Los Angeles Times wouldn't print the pictures. Washington Post wouldn't print the pictures. No one was doing anything. Then Texas got into the mix, and they decided to have a draw Muhammad contest. Oh, shit. Instantly. Within minutes, a dude showed up with his friend, and they started shooting at the building. They were killed almost instantly. And I'm like, why? Within minutes, a dude showed up with his friend, and they started shooting at the building.
Starting point is 03:14:26 They were killed almost instantly. And I'm like, why? Because they were doing a draw Muhammad contest in Texas. I'm like, did you pay attention to anything about Texas? And then I get this whole bit about how that's the place where they're – you know that bit about more tigers in captivity in Texas than in all the wild of the world? What's the bit? This sounds familiar. This is from Tr is from triggered from my 2016 special but there's more tigers in captivity in texas than all of the wild of the world that's how crazy texas is texas is wild west people who just said we're good right here
Starting point is 03:14:57 when they just stopped all those kit carson type dudes from the fucking wild west they just stopped in texas and they stayed there there's more tigers more tigers in Texas than the whole rest of the planet. That's insane. It's insane. They're in dudes' yards. That's what's insane. And I go, it all started with one guy who got a tiger. And the other guy was like, I didn't know we'd get tigers.
Starting point is 03:15:16 Shit. And he went and got two tigers. And the first guy was like, I ain't about to let this faggot out tiger me. And he opened up Tiger World. And that's literally what it's like down there. Dudes have hundreds of tigers in their yard. That's crazy. You can have a yard.
Starting point is 03:15:31 And if you have the resources, you can keep those tigers fed. You can have fences where you have 100 tigers in your yard. Texas is a different animal, son. But it's one of the safest places to be. It is violence in texas just like there's violence whenever you get large groups of people yeah but i like people in texas they're friendly dallas i like dallas a lot man they're they're like austin i like you i like everywhere i go in texas but they're fucking they're they're what i would want america to be like they're
Starting point is 03:16:00 cordial they hold doors for you they say morning. They look you in the eye. They're smiling. Texas is not only the best place in the United States for me for jujitsu seminars, but also comedy, too. Me, too. Texas is a different animal comedy. Dude. A hundred people show up for seminars. It's insane, man.
Starting point is 03:16:23 I did my first CD in Texas. Yeah. At Houston, at the Laugh Stop. Houston is the best place. That's the number one city oh man well dallas and houston well i don't know man i love austin too dude when there's a crowd when i see a crowd of mexican conspiracy theorists i'm like oh shit those fucking we're gonna go off those dudes we're gonna go off those dudes come up to me they try to breach those subjects and i go, hey, stop, stop, stop, stop. I can't. I can't do that.
Starting point is 03:16:48 I don't have any- Eddie's crazy. Mm-mm. They don't want to talk. You should listen to Eddie about the people that make tunnels under the earth. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Bro, I got to go home. I got a yoga class at 830.
Starting point is 03:17:00 I like when people come up to me. I got people coming up to me, and they're like all alien. They still think I'm the 2005 dude where I'm all like ball-stepping aliens. They come in and go, fuck. You've evolved. Aliens. We've evolved from aliens and the split, the whole Anunnaki story. Man, it's hard for, they're so into it, and it's like, how do I tell this guy that I don't believe in this shit no more?
Starting point is 03:17:25 Sometimes, you know when I had a guy the other night, I was just like, I'm not even going to say nothing no more. Because I guess fucking aliens. Our DNA was split, dude, from the fucking Anunnaki man. Missing link, bro. And then boom, we're half monkey. Do you remember you and me? Oh, no.
Starting point is 03:17:38 Do you remember you and me in like 2000, hanging out at your fucking guest house? Yeah, we were all into it. Doing bong hits and watching documentaries. Yeah, all that shit. Nobody, nobody watched. Maybe there's a lot of ties. Maybe there's a fucking 100-way tie, 1,000-way tie. But it's very hard to watch more space documentaries than me and you do.
Starting point is 03:18:01 Come on, dude. Real space documentaries, too, not just alien ones. We would just sit there and there was like 12 parts to like this BBC universe. Do you remember that giant alien bong that I had? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:18:12 That like yellow fish bong. Red Band has that thing. Nobody was into space and aliens more than us. No. You had that fucking Roswell poster on the newspaper clip. Still have it.
Starting point is 03:18:25 Still have it. Still have it. Dude, we were balls deep in that shit. Let me tell you something, man. It got fired up again when I watched that Bob Lazar documentary. Yeah. When Bob Lazar was saying things in the 1990s that became true in the 2000 teens, in terms of like Element 115, that they had this thing that they could propel these spaceships with and they were saying
Starting point is 03:18:45 there's no such thing he's like there's a thing they have it it's from another planet he explained the propulsion system he explained all this stuff it sounds like such nonsense I believe Bob Lazar
Starting point is 03:18:55 believes all that shit I believe he does but you don't believe it's true I believe he's set up they let him talk too much like how are they going to let him do Netflix and they're going to come on JRE
Starting point is 03:19:03 they're going to let him do go on they're going to come on JRE? They're going to let him go on Larry King. Again, Eddie Bravo with the 3D chest. They want him to do that. If you're on Netflix, the deep state wants you on Netflix. So it's a good thing to... I think he believes it. Just like William Cooper.
Starting point is 03:19:21 I think he figured out he got set up. They were trying to get him to believe that alien spacecraft were recovered and all that. Because his job at the Office of Naval Intelligence, William Cooper, he wrote Behold the Pale Horse. He wrote that book. He's probably considered the Helio Gracie of conspiracy theories, William Cooper he was in charge of putting together the documents for these top-secret naval office of Naval Intelligence meetings and he was reading him and gone wasn't he killed in a shootout they shot his ass dude but he was killing a shootout like in front of his house he was talking too much he
Starting point is 03:19:59 predicted Osama bin Laden before 9-11 I don't know if you know this there's video on YouTube you can watch. It's William Cooper. But you know he also talked about bases on the moon, where aliens had bases on the moon. He evolved. You've got to follow the timeline. Sort of like you're not into aliens anymore, and now... No, no. He's a big part of it.
Starting point is 03:20:17 He's a big part of it. Of what? He's a big part of me going, oh. Because he is the one who opened my eyes to the fact that he thought he was being set up into he thought they're trying to get us to believe in aliens so they could fake an alien attack so that'll usher in the new world order because what happens if the aliens attack we all unite and all the movies you see them in the movies like oh they're attacking let's call china china's got this new thing and the russia and then we're all together we all unite that's the whole purpose of everything it's always been about everything there's so many
Starting point is 03:20:54 pieces how do we get to that but wait a minute who's the master fucking puppeteer that's a long story man i would need an hour to explain all that that's too long that's too long that's too long that's too long but William Cooper he was the guy who he was like aliens exist I'm looking at these documents they're having these meetings
Starting point is 03:21:13 about these crashed alien aircraft so he's out he's got his own little private radio and like or not private radio but I don't like
Starting point is 03:21:22 in the late 80s early 90s he's on radio whatever like before way before oh yeah some sorts early 90s he's on radio whatever like before the way before the oh yeah some sort of show and then he's like oh these motherfuckers are setting me up there's this is all bullshit he goes they they're setting up a fake alien invasion that's what they're doing okay that's that's uh you know who i've been trying to get on the podcast recently yes esther Esther Hicks. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:21:45 She's still alive? Yeah, still alive, not interested. Her husband passed, I believe. I'm sorry if that's incorrect. She's that lady that channels that. Dude, I used to be way into her. Yeah. I was into her. Here's the thing about someone like that.
Starting point is 03:22:01 It's almost like the universe is throwing you a puzzle. Like you can extract valuable information out of this puzzle, but you got to understand what's edible and what's not. When you eat a coconut, you don't eat the outside. You eat the inside. The inside has that beautiful white meat, and it also has that delicious coconut milk. Those things are good.
Starting point is 03:22:23 The outside you can't eat. There's a lot of people that will tell you things, and some of those things seem like bullshit. But inside those things is some undeniable truths about how we should live our lives and how we should view the world and how we can sort of unite each other with love and understanding
Starting point is 03:22:40 and we can connect in a way. It's like a murder mystery, trying to figure out life. Right, but it is like a murder mystery. It's like a murder mystery, trying to figure out life. Right, but it is like a murder mystery. It's probably more complicated because it's never over. Murder mysteries haven't ended. As long as there is life, there's more complexity. Most people, man, I know some people, they're so happy.
Starting point is 03:22:56 The last thing on their mind is trying to figure out what the fuck this is all about. They're just living their life, and it's all about their family, and they don't give a shit about Iran They don't give a fuck about NASA. They're just living their life and man. I envy that shit I am I'm trying to move closer to that. I envy that shit. Hey, you know what people tell me, you know, like yo That's all you do is Study conspiracy theories and I'm like no on the weekends dude on the weekends I am blue pill in myself on the weekends, dude, on the weekends, I am blue pilling myself.
Starting point is 03:23:26 On the weekends, baseball with my son, karate, we'd go to the fucking watching the Disney cartoons with all the space shit in it. I blue pill the fuck out of,
Starting point is 03:23:37 I don't try to get my son into conspiracy theories at all. That's gonna be later. I'm like, I just want him to, That's gonna be later. That's later.
Starting point is 03:23:43 I'll get him when he's like 15, 15, 15. But right now, he can't handle it. There's no way, there's going to be later? That's later. I'll get him when he's like 15, 15, 15. But right now he can't handle it. There's no way. There's no way. He doesn't need that. You shouldn't ask him to.
Starting point is 03:23:50 And his whole life, every minute is happiness. Just love and happiness. And we just want to make him. Beautiful. Every day. He loves school more than anything. He loves school more than fucking. He loves school.
Starting point is 03:24:04 And then after school, it's all about fun. And he decides what we're going to do. He loves school more than anything. He loves school more than fucking, he loves school. And then after school, it's all about fun. And he decides what we're going to do. He calls the shots. You're going to go to karate? He goes, today, we're going to do karate. And then we're going to, because he's all into baseball, too. And then we're going to go to the batting cages.
Starting point is 03:24:17 I'm like, boom, that's it. We go to karate, batting cages, then I go teach jujitsu. Then the next day, he'll say, daddy, I think we're going I think I'm going to take a relaxation day. Worked a lot the last couple days. Let's order a pizza from Dino's in Burbank. Amazing. And then we'll watch some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He's all about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Starting point is 03:24:40 He decides. And then every day it's a different thing what he wants. Let's go to the movies today after school. Well, this is an evolution of you learning from the pain of your childhood and doing all the right things. I do the opposite with my son. That's amazing. My dad had 19 kids, and I was just one kid with my mom. It was like a weird off-site. He had a family with five kids, and then he got a bunch of other women pregnant.
Starting point is 03:25:02 He was all over the place. Truck driver. He had 19 kids. I was one of 19 yet out of eight different chicks he was banging and he um never i found out i met i met a couple of my half brothers and half sisters that were were actually part of his real family and we met one day we went to the old spaghetti factory in in hollywood and he told they told me all about him and i didn't know. I thought he had five kids. He had a family with five kids and my mom was some chick he was seeing on the side. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 03:25:30 I didn't know he had a bunch of others. She goes, my half sister goes, half sister, half brother. He goes, how many kids do you think your dad has? I said, six. Try 19. I'm like, damn! He's like Helio Gracie.
Starting point is 03:25:46 Holy shit. Real similar. And one thing that he never told any, he never said the words I love you to anybody, to his like real family. He never said it to me because I would see him like once a year. The words never came out of his mouth.
Starting point is 03:25:57 I never told my mom that. Apparently, he's one of those guys that will never say I love you to anybody. And I'm the opposite, opposite dude i tell my son i look him in the eye every day it's like you know who loves you the most you know i'm the one i love you the most you're the more and i whisper in his ear i'm like you know i'll kill anybody for you don't you ever forget that whoa you're getting crazy oh i get crazy with them every day but it is important. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:26:26 People know that you love them. And then it's a funny thing. Now it's a funny thing. Like first he's like, okay, dad. And now he goes, I'm not going to let you forget. Daddy,
Starting point is 03:26:32 I won't forget. I go, you promise? Cause I won't forget. I go, I just want to make sure you don't forget. And he goes, okay.
Starting point is 03:26:38 And he goes, I daddy, I won't forget. I promise. And I hug him every day. It's beautiful, man. You know, you, you know you've really embraced
Starting point is 03:26:47 to being a dad it's all that matters man I'm living for him that's why I shave my head I'm like what the fuck am I doing washing my hair you know what I mean
Starting point is 03:26:54 I don't matter no more I've been telling you for a long time let me shave my head if I didn't have this big stupid hair transplant scar on the back of my head
Starting point is 03:27:00 I would have shaved my head a long time ago but I just decided this is so pointless it looks terrible I keep paying to get haircuts they always look like shit everybody online in the back of my head. I would have shaved my head a long time ago. But I just decided, like, this is so pointless. It looks terrible. Yeah. I keep paying to get haircuts. They always look like shit.
Starting point is 03:27:08 Everybody online is calling me, like, telling me I'm turning Joe Rogan now. Who cares? Everybody. You gotta stop reading comments. I love those comments. I love them.
Starting point is 03:27:19 Anybody talk, like, stupid shit, like it's obvious that, like, they hate me, I do them a favor and I decide to to save their life and i just block them because i'm like that much hate dude you're gonna get fucking cancer following me bro you know i need to block you and save your life well there's just a lot of people that want attention they're not getting it at home much like you or me look did i could i like to save them that's a thing, but I could have easily been a hater if I was 15 and I had an internet account.
Starting point is 03:27:49 Yeah. I could have easily been a mean kid. It's crazy. Another internet dude. Anybody could come out and just fucking say whatever. But I'm saying if I was a 15-year-old kid and I could comment to you and you made me feel jealous and I didn't have any love at home and I saw you doing all these jujitsu videos,
Starting point is 03:28:04 I would go go fuck that guy That guy sucks, you know, how about Leo Vera? I would just send you some mean shit I would send you some mean shit. Yeah, just as a 15 year old piece of shit Yeah, but that's just because you're a 15 year and because you're not really talking It's a bad way to talk to people man through text messages and shit. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense We're supposed to look at each other. When people say things that translate into positivity and it's obvious they're on the same frequency as me, I follow every one of those dudes.
Starting point is 03:28:35 Anybody comment something that says genuinely they agree with what I'm saying and they're on my team, I'm like, you're on my motherfucking team. If someone says anything, if they criticize me, I won't block them. I'm like, if it's legit, I'm like, you're on my motherfucking team. If someone says anything, if they criticize me, I won't block them. I'm like, if it's legit, I'm like, I get that. I get that. But if it's clear that you're a hater,
Starting point is 03:28:53 I'm like, dude, let me save your life. Let me block you. Let me put a couple years on that life. I don't let any of those. As soon as you expose yourself, I'm like, dude, you should not be following me. There's a bunch of other people you could be following, dude. It's obvious you don't like me.
Starting point is 03:29:10 Find someone else. Well, there's two schools of thought, right? There's a school of thought you should let everybody in. And the other school of thought is that it's like a party. Like if you had a party and one dude is an asshole, it's ruining the party. Kick him out. Kick him out of the party. Kick him the fuck out.
Starting point is 03:29:24 This is my party. Yeah. is ruling the party. Kick him out. Kick him out of the party. I'll kick him the fuck out. This is my party. Yeah, it's your party. Yeah. I think that... You want to criticize me intelligently? I never block those people, ever. I would feel like a douchebag. I wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 03:29:35 If you criticize me but you're being intelligent about it and you're not being a dick about it, I'm like, okay, let people argue about that. Okay, let them, whatever. But if you come out and say, you fucking piece of shit, you're a retard, I'm like, dude, let people argue about that. Okay, let them, whatever. But if you come out and say, you fucking piece of shit, you're a retard. I'm like, dude, let me save your life.
Starting point is 03:29:52 That's some ozone therapy. I did some ozone therapy. You know what that is? Yeah. Was it good? You know what? This is what happened. I did, when I went down there to mexico i went down there for five days
Starting point is 03:30:05 and the i didn't do stem cells till the third day it's like you had to prep yourself for the stem cells we didn't just juicing the gerson diet is like dude it's uh what is the gerson gerson gerson it's the gerson therapy it's what saved javi vasquez man javi vasquez had colon cancer and he did the gerson diet gerson therapy how does it work you juice you have to take fresh juices like there's certain plant juices you have to make them yet and have to be fresh and you you do one like every hour and you do a coffee enema like five times a day yeah soikes. So juicing, coffee enema. Did you read? Coffee enema. Dude, I coffee enema, dude. Ooh.
Starting point is 03:30:47 Juicing, coffee enema. All day? No, not like someone with cancer would do. Someone with cancer, you got, there's a, for, dude, for three months, dude, every day, you're juicing coffee enema. You're just cleaning out something about the- Does it work? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 03:31:02 Really? Javi Vasquez is cancer free. And it was from the juicing? It was from the Gerson therapy. Does it work? Hell yeah. Javi Vasquez is cancer free. And it was from the juicing? It was from the Gerson therapy. And so is that all he's doing for nutrients is just juicing and then coffee animals? Who knows? I don't know. I don't know the details.
Starting point is 03:31:15 This is what Javi tells me. That's part of it. Part of it is juicing and coffee animals. Javi's school is thriving. He's teaching jujitsu. He tells me he beat it. I don't know the facts. I just go by what he tells me. I see him on Instagram. He's teaching jujitsu. He told me he did it um you know i don't know the the facts i just go by what he tells me i see him on instagram he's teaching jujitsu he told me he did the gerson therapy he told me what it was
Starting point is 03:31:30 about and when i went to mexico that's what that's one of the things they do because this is the weird thing is i went down to a cancer alternative hospital down in in mexico called chipsa and people thought i had cancer. I didn't realize. Because I know the owners. I know Ed Clay and Scotty Nelson. They thought you had cancer because you were there. And the only reason I went down there
Starting point is 03:31:52 was for the stem cells. Right. Because in Mexico, it's in Tijuana, they can do anything. So not only is Ed Clay and Scotty Nelson, they just committed their lives to putting all the best
Starting point is 03:32:03 anti-cancer treatments together. The Gerson therapy is one of many things. They do a bunch of alternative. People come down there with third stage, fourth stage, or whatever they got, and this is like the last hurrah. So they hit them with the Gerson therapy. They hit them with the NADH.
Starting point is 03:32:20 Have you heard about this? NADH. They hit them with hyperbaric chambers every day, electromagnetic fucking therapy. There's all this shit there. They got different things on IVs. And so I went down there and I didn't realize that people were going to think I had cancer. So is this really beneficial to people that have cancer?
Starting point is 03:32:39 What exactly? There's so many therapies. All those different treatments? You're saying they hit them with all the, I'm assuming you hit them with like a pile of them all together. Yeah. They got a system down there, man. And they don't make any claims, man. There's no claims being made.
Starting point is 03:32:52 They just do their best. Well, you can't make claims. You can't make claims. But they got, what Chipsa is all about is all the latest. Ed Clay is, I met him when he was 19 and I was 30. And I knew, I knew when I met Ed Clay, I'm like when he was 19 and I was 30 and I knew I knew when I met Ed Clay I'm like dude
Starting point is 03:33:07 you're 19 you sound like you're 45 I'm like smart dude always been dude I'm like what are you doing in this 19 year old body
Starting point is 03:33:14 I go one day you're gonna be a a business tycoon of some sort you're gonna be huge and so he dedicated his life his story was he got addicted to
Starting point is 03:33:24 pills he got addicted to viking and he was a black belt bjj black belt that's how i know him through the martial arts world he owned his own mixed martial arts gym nashville mma he and then he had a couple mma fights and then he got he got hurt had some surgery got addicted to pills and he had a real bad addiction and it was fucking him up. And then he heard about Ibogaine and Ibogaine is like the African version of ayahuasca. And supposedly, I don't know that much about it, but supposedly you go through an Ibogaine trip and it resets your brain in some way. I don't know that you don't, you could quit those pills
Starting point is 03:34:02 without going through all the withdrawals and the pain. You just got to go through it for 36 hours or something like that. You do Ibogaine. And he found out about this. And he went down to Mexico and did it. And it cured him of his fucking pill addiction. It really worked. So at first, he sold his MMA gym.
Starting point is 03:34:19 He goes, I'm going to put. And he was like a real estate mogul, too. Super smart guy. He was all into real estate and everything. He was well off, sold his MMA. He was growing beyond an MMA gym really. He was just growing beyond that. And then he decided to open up an Ibogaine hospital in Mexico to help as many people as he could to get over their pill addictions. He was like, I'm just going to dedicate my life to saving people.
Starting point is 03:34:42 And then a lot of stuff happened. It's a long story. But he ended up going, you know what? Let's save people. Let's save people. Let's try to help people with cancer. So it all led to like the what's the everyone's worst fear is getting cancer. Yeah, I didn't know he was doing that until I talked to you because we've talked about him many times in the podcast.
Starting point is 03:35:00 That whole Ibogaine retreat. And then I think that people are having an issue with various addictions there's a lot of a lot of a lot of weird problems with going straight he just went from let's save people from pill addiction to let's save people from cancer so him and uh scotty nelson who used to own on the mat otm they got together and they put all their money together and bought this hospital in Tijuana. That is so crazy. They bought a hospital. Dude, they bought a... I'm there all week and we're sitting in the...
Starting point is 03:35:34 He's running everything like El Patron. But you know how crazy that is? He owns a hospital. He's got scientists all around him and they're all about finding the best shit. They're just looking for the best shit. Let me ask you this. What can they do in comparison to what they can do in Panama?
Starting point is 03:35:50 Could they do the same kind of shit as Dr. Neil Reardon? No, no, it's the same thing. And they just do it in Tijuana. That Reardon, one of his partners is one of the guys that went to CHPSA. So that's why they're doing STEM. They're doing the same thing, but they even admit the dude in Panama is like the godfather of everything. But the way they're doing it at CHPSA, like CHPSA, it's a cancer alternative hospital. But the only reason, you know, they're using stem cells too for some treatments.
Starting point is 03:36:14 So you don't have to have cancer to go there. I get people sending me shit like, dude, heal up, bro. I'm with you. And I'm like, dude, I don't have cancer. And then I shaved my head. Oh, my God. Dude, I went to CHPSA and then i shaved my head oh my god dude i went to chips on then i shaved my head everyone thinks i'm dying so i'm not dying guys i just i went to
Starting point is 03:36:32 chips to get stem cells because my body is broken as fuck i'm 50 years old and my knee my shoulder my back they're fucked up and i was getting to the point, I started rolling. I was rolling this whole year. Rolling with little guys, little blue belts, little purple belts. And then I started working up with the bigger guys. And I was like, fuck it, let's just see what happens. Boom. And then my shoulder gets fucked up again. And I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 03:36:56 Yeah, I got fucked up again. And then I, and at that point, Ed Clay and Scotty were saying, dude, come down to the hospital. We'll get you on these stem cells. Dude, we're gonna we're gonna repair all that shit come on man come on down come on down and i'm like i don't know if that's gonna work can i ask you this did you get an mri on your shoulder because you had shoulder surgery yes and then you hurt it again yeah but i didn't get an mri no well i just felt like i strained it i'm like is it did i strain it or did i fuck it that fuck the surgery up?
Starting point is 03:37:26 That was the thought. That's the question. How many months after the surgery were you rolling? About a year. I waited a year. Oh, that's not that. Yeah, I waited about a year. That's not unreasonable.
Starting point is 03:37:36 Okay, no, maybe six months. I'm sorry, not a year. I thought about it. I think they told me a year, but I waited six months. I was going with little people. But it's no big deal. I think they told me a year, but I waited six months. I was going with little people. But it's no big deal.
Starting point is 03:37:46 So Ed was always telling me to come down, and I just kept putting it off. And then finally, after I re-injured my shoulder, I'm like, you know what? What the fuck am I doing, dude? I got to do these stems. I got to do the best thing that's out there, and if it doesn't work, you know what?
Starting point is 03:38:03 At least I tried. I got to do the best shit. So I called up Ed, you know what, at least I tried. I gotta do the best shit so I called up Ed and I go, let's set it up so we found a week where we could both, we did it together.
Starting point is 03:38:11 Me and Ed, he goes, we're gonna do this shit, everything we did, he was right there with me and did it with me. That's awesome. He's one of the greatest guys
Starting point is 03:38:18 I've ever met in my life, man. Well, I hope it works. You know, it'd be an interesting alternative. I gotta wait a couple, I will tell you this, that I didn't start the stems until the third day and the first couple days we were doing nadh we're doing all this stuff and immediately my inflammation and my knees was gone immediately like from all the stuff we were doing the ozone therapy the hyperbaric chamber we were doing this
Starting point is 03:38:41 electron all day i was there like eight hours doing shit every day. So you said your inflammation like your knees, like what did they feel like before? Oh, my knees are fucked up. My good knee not the, my surgery knee is not my good rubber guard knee. My surgery knee, thank God it's not my rubber guard knee, but it still hasn't healed. It cut out so much meniscus. It's fucking sore and tender. It just won't heal.
Starting point is 03:39:00 How bad was the tear before you got it fixed? Dude, it locked on me about ten times before I got a surgery. So every time it locks, it rips it up some more. It was a mess. So they took out most of my meniscus. And so it still hasn't healed. And then my good knee, something happened in leg lock drills.
Starting point is 03:39:16 I don't know. Something happened where I think I sprained it. So I'm like, okay, I got to stop. But then at the same time, my shoulder got fucked up. So like all of a sudden, my whole body is fucked up. It's hard to get out of bed. And then I called Ed, and I'm like, dude, let's just do this. Let's go through it.
Starting point is 03:39:31 Let's do this. So they injected my shoulder with, like, apparently, I don't know the technical term for these stem cells, but they were umbilical cord, organic. I don't know. I just said, just give me your best shit. They stuck my shoulder. They stuck my knee. And then I put it in.
Starting point is 03:39:52 We got stem cells. This is what everybody says about you. In the IV. This is what everybody says about you. Yeah. You don't wait long enough. Everybody says you dive right back into rolling too quick. And then you got to give yourself more rehab time.
Starting point is 03:40:04 Who told you that? A couple people. Who told you that? A couple people. Who told you that? A few people talking. They're worried that you're addicted to rolling, which everybody is, right? And when you're coming back from an injury, how much weightlifting stuff did you do?
Starting point is 03:40:15 I was doing weightlifting too. You and the physical therapist that gave you the routine? I got fucking savages trying to take my head off. Oh, I understand. You know what I mean? What they're saying is that you- I went too hard. head off. Oh, I understand. You know what I mean? But what they're saying is that you... I went too hard.
Starting point is 03:40:27 I did. Yeah. Now I know that. So I wanted to test myself. So now this is the plan. The plan is I'm going to wait a couple because the stem cells
Starting point is 03:40:34 that take supposedly they take because I took them through the IV too. We did them double. We shot them with a fucking million fucking gazillion
Starting point is 03:40:43 and then put them in an IV. I did the whole fucking thing. Hyperbaric chamber every day. Watching Fight Club on DVD. All that shit, dude. Every day. Dude, all day.
Starting point is 03:40:54 I was doing the shit. I go, I have to go through this. This is, I'm getting old. I got 115 schools that depend on me. I got to do this shit. So now I'm just waiting. It's been less than a month since i since i did and it's supposedly you're not supposed to it takes a while for stem cells to regrow shit uh two to three months or something like that so i ain't gonna do shit for
Starting point is 03:41:13 two to three months because if i start rolling now well you know john donahurt doesn't roll right yeah he hurt his hip or something he's he's had hip replacement he's gonna have a knee replacement his body's all fucked we're all headed there headed there. We're all going to end up being there. You can't roll forever. No. I heard Hickson's rolling again. That's what I heard. Jean-Jacques told me that. You know what it is? It's like...
Starting point is 03:41:35 Can't leave it alone. It just feels so good. I appreciate it so much now. This is the weird thing. This is the weird thing. When I started rolling again this year, more than ever while I roll, more than ever, anytime I pull off a little sweep
Starting point is 03:41:51 or a little cool transition, I'll always say, yes, sir. Loud. Enjoy it. Loud. I'm constantly saying, boy, yes, sir.
Starting point is 03:42:03 Because I appreciate the little move. If I butterfly sweep a motherfucker and I pass his guard at the same time, I'm going to say isso. For sure. I'm like, I appreciate every little transition and then I remember every little transition. I'm like, I got to teach this.
Starting point is 03:42:20 I got to teach that. Oh, I forgot about that. There's just so much. It's so endless that unless you're rolling you'll forget that's what i'm afraid of i'm afraid of stop like stop rolling and then i forget certain transitions because there's so much the best thing you could do the best thing now i know on my deathbed record as many of your roles as fucking possible really record your roles watch them watch your decision making watch your mistakes man and then you remember shit you got to record as many roles as possible that's that's all i'm gonna so it's like comedy yes exactly dude the only reason i
Starting point is 03:43:00 record every one of my sets is because of you that's the only reason because you always say you got to record your sets you got to record your sets so my rituals is because of you. That's the only reason. Because you always say you got to record your sets. You got to record your sets. So my rituals is on my way to my next set is I'm listening to the last set on the drive over. You know what I mean? And there's so many times I'll go back to listen to old sets. Like there's some shit that I don't even remember saying and I would have never remembered it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:43:23 There's so much shit. You're like, damn, there's too much to remember. You know what I mean? There's so much shit. You're like, damn, there's too much to remember. You know what, man? The ride home, the ride home, you have to treat as part of the job. This is what I've decided. Do you listen to it on the ride home? I never done that.
Starting point is 03:43:34 I'm afraid to. No, this is my new thing. My new gimmick is the ride home. I listen to recordings, maybe take another hit, depending on whether or not I want to go deep, and then bust out the laptop so the ride home I'm listening
Starting point is 03:43:48 and then when I get home I write so I'm in a stand up frame of mind everybody's asleep everybody's asleep so the whole world's asleep so it's like
Starting point is 03:43:56 one o'clock in the morning it's just me just sitting there with the dog just chilling just typing and if I do that every day and I say this is my job my job is not just to show the comedy store and do my set my job is to listen to a set on the way there and then
Starting point is 03:44:11 listen to that set on the way home and then sit in front of my laptop for an hour to hour and a half and i feel like if i do it's not that hard man coal mining is hard. Yeah. You know, sand mining, that shit's hard. Yeah. I got to do that. What I do is- You know what the problem is? Nobody is your boss. Yeah. Nobody tells you what to do.
Starting point is 03:44:32 Yeah. If you just worked at a warehouse, they go, Eddie, just do whatever you can with all these packages. You're like, all right. Yeah. Yeah. Versus if you worked for Amazon, they give you a fucking time clock and it's like, ready, go.
Starting point is 03:44:43 And stopwatch is ticking down. How many minutes you have left to send this package out? You're running because you don't want to get reprimanded. You know, I was telling you about my ritual, right? My ritual is if I, as I'm driving to my next set or getting ready for my next set, I listen to my old set. Yes. And I have it fresh in my head and I go on stage, right? So what happens is I have a few good sets in a row. Nothing goes bad.
Starting point is 03:45:08 It seems to go good. People seem to like it. And then I get fucking lazy. I get lazy. There was one time where I was going to do that Bruce Buffer show at the Laugh Factory. We're going to do a show at the Laugh Factory. First time I'm ever there. So I thought, okay, I'm going to drive there
Starting point is 03:45:23 and listen to my last recording like I usually do. But then I didn't want to. I go, I want to take an Uber and drink. You know what I mean? I got too cocky, dude. So then I thought, no, no, no. I got to be strict. I got it.
Starting point is 03:45:37 No, I can't call an Uber. I'm going to drive my truck and listen to my goddamn set again. But then I thought, oh, my God, maybe I'll just put earplugs in and get in the Uber and just listen to it with my earbuds. And I'm like, cool, that's what I'll do. So I call the Uber, and I usually don't drink at home before I go to the comedy store because I'm driving.
Starting point is 03:45:57 So I thought, I'm Ubering it. So I have one drink. So now I'm one drink in, and my ritual is one drink at the comedy store, right? So I get in the Uber store right so i i get in the uber and immediately when i get in the uber the guy goes first time ever only time ever guy goes dude are you eddie bravo you're i love jre i listen to you on the podcast all the time so he just wanted to talk about jre so i never listened to the set so we get to the laugh factor we get
Starting point is 03:46:23 to the laugh factor i'm like i didn't listen to the set i talked to this guy he was cool he was a fucking cool ass guy you know what i'm not gonna listen to shit i'll be fine right so i get there and then built bruce buffers i got shots let's take shots tequila everyone and i'm like i'm not i'm not drinking way too much don't have my set fresh in my head and i went on stage and fucking it wasn't a total disaster but man i had my family there and everything for the first time i'm like it was not a good set it was a bad set and i'm like fuck but i learned from that you learn from them losses i'm like don't ever get lazy because when you have that set fresh in your mind and then you go on stage it ain't that hard you just heard that motherfucker
Starting point is 03:47:05 you know what i mean well it's not just that for me it's writing things down like cue cards are big i use index cards damn sharpies before my sets in my rider okay i do a show i'll write just bullet points just titles of bits shit like that yeah yeah and then uh another thing that works is like during the day of a show i'll sit in front of the computer and just rewrite bits. Just write them out. Write them out. Write them out. It's like it's not necessary and you can get away without doing it.
Starting point is 03:47:32 But I always feel like the more I do, the better. The more prepared you are. For sure. It's better. It's just like when I would do the opening monologues for like EBI countdown shows. I used to do that. I don't do it anymore. Always, always, you write it all out.
Starting point is 03:47:49 The first three takes ain't that good. You don't remember. But by the fourth and fifth take, you can see it. It's like there's a teleprompter in front of you. You've done it so much. And then now you could really nail it. Just like Jiu-Jitsu. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 03:48:03 Just like Jiu-Jitsu. You have a certain pass that you just nail. You get that pass. You got to do it over and over. But you know those grooves that you catch in when you are in that path that you've been through a thousand times? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:48:14 Just like comedy. Just like everything else. Just like a monologue. Just like acting in a movie. Dude, if it wasn't for Jiu-Jitsu, I wouldn't be doing comedy, man. Jiu-Jitsu trained me. Well, Jiu-Jitsu taught you also how to
Starting point is 03:48:25 teach so you talk to people like you have this way of projecting public speaking experience is huge i i got a couple uh instructors that are looking to do and looking to do comedy too yeah because if you could if you could teach a seminar you could teach a three-hour seminar you have the tools to be a stand-up comedian you now you got to be funny well listen this is the thing about stand-up comedians only 30 of them ever be funny. Well, listen, this is the thing about stand-up comedians. Only 30% of them ever even try it. Yeah. It's probably 70% of the potential legitimate stand-up comedians
Starting point is 03:48:52 in the country that don't ever do it. Yeah. You know, there's people that do it and they're delusional and they do it and they don't see reality correctly. So they'll never really be good. There's people like that. Yeah. But then there's people that just decide to keep working at the car repair place. And they're funny as fuck.
Starting point is 03:49:08 And they're funny as fuck. Yeah. I know I've told you about this guy, but when I was an amateur comedian, when I was driving for a private investigator, I met this private investigator. It was like, be a private investigator's assistant. I was like, oh, cool.
Starting point is 03:49:24 Really, he became a very good friend of mine he lost his license drinking and driving so he needed someone to drive him around so that was a private investigators assistant I was just his driver but his name was Dave Dolan I loved him to the day he died but he he needed someone to drive him to places and he also was it turns out just randomly, he was a cousin to one of the people who owned the Comedy Connection in Boston, Bill Downs. He was Bill Downs' cousin. So I met him and I was like, what? You're Bill's cousin?
Starting point is 03:49:58 He's like, yeah, he's my fucking cousin. He was the funny, one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life. And at the time, for sure, the funniest people i've ever met in my life and at the time for sure the funniest guy i had ever met and i was like how is this guy not a comedian this doesn't even make sense dude we would go places and we would have to like get up at four o'clock in the morning i would pick him up and then we drive to like some location we have to park on the corner to see if some guy who's uh pretending to be injured is going to work under the table in another way like we have to take pictures of him and shit that kind of stuff was mostly insurance scams
Starting point is 03:50:30 so i'd be sitting on the side of the road with this guy and he would be just talking shit just talking shit about life and about girls and about fucking everything from top to bottom he was doing a he was doing a one-man show for me. And I'm a professional. Not really at the time. I was an amateur. And I don't think I'd ever even gotten paid. But I was an aspiring comedian. And I'm sitting there with this guy in a car.
Starting point is 03:50:54 I'm like, this is the funniest fucking dude I've ever talked to in my life. I'm nothing compared to him. He's so much funnier than me. And he never wanted to do comedy. Even while my comedy was taking off, he never wanted to do comedy. I'm like, Dave, you can do comedy. He's like, fuck that i bust scumbags all he wanted he was just a private investigator busting scumbags and now like i don't know if it's the economy or what but it's it's like this in jujitsu comedy and jujitsu have one thing in common it seems like economically it's bigger than it's ever been because back like 10 15 years ago
Starting point is 03:51:26 i remember thinking to myself like damn there ain't that many motherfuckers out there they could they could teach seminars and make some big money i was like fuck there ain't that many it's and now shit seminars in jujitsu are every everybody's touring it's insane it's like touring everybody exactly like comedians everybody's touring everyone's got their specials yes dude it's amazing economy is insane it wasn't like this 10 years ago because i remember like not even 10 years ago my business manager said uh you gotta slow down with your money because you're running out of money. Like 10, 8 years ago. It wasn't always good. But right now, man, everybody in my association, it seems like I would say 90%.
Starting point is 03:52:11 Everybody's growing. Constantly growing. Growing. Growing. I think the word has gotten out about the benefits of jiu-jitsu. There's so many people that have Instagram pages. So many people make YouTube videos. That and the economy.
Starting point is 03:52:23 The economy is booming. Yeah. Podcasts. Yeah. People talk about jiu-jitsu a lot. You get to see way more videos of jiu-jitsu on Instagram or YouTube or whatever. I mean, this is a good time for...
Starting point is 03:52:33 And also, like, there's so many dominant players in grappling today, from Craig Jones, you know, to... It's a different world now. Ryan Gordon, you know, and Eddie Tonin is now... Eddie Tonin? Eddie Tonin is now- Eddie Tonin? Eddie Tonin and Eddie Cummins.
Starting point is 03:52:51 Eddie's now running his own school, and Gary's fighting in MMA. Some of these super high-level, high-profile guys now have large social media followings. Gary Tonin, he's a funny Twitter follow. He says funny shit. Like he's a smart dude. And he's doing really well in MMA. And you're like, hey, that guy's got nasty, nasty grappling. Like do you see that flying scissor hook he hit in Abu Dhabi?
Starting point is 03:53:17 Yeah. Flying heel hook, scissor takedown. He's a legit world-class submission artist that's now fighting in MMA. Look what's happening in Abu Dhabi. Look at all the rising stars, the hottest stars. They're all no-gi guys. Craig Jones, Lachlan Giles, John Blank, Gio Martinez, Gordon Ryan, Gary Tonin. All of them, all no-gi guys. They're not doing anything in the gi. They're not competing in the gi of them all no-gi guys
Starting point is 03:53:45 they're not doing anything in the gi they're not competing in the gi they're no-gi guys so you're starting to see right now that it's getting
Starting point is 03:53:52 the sport is getting so technical and so specialized that if you want to be the best in the gi you got to spend all your time
Starting point is 03:53:59 in the gi you want to be the best no-gi you got to spend all your time no-gi it's hard to do both doing both man it's tough.
Starting point is 03:54:06 Like Gordon Ryan's not trying to compete in the gi. No. Because he knows. He realizes like, damn, that's another lifetime. I think that there's got to be some way where we can wake people up to how fun that shit is to watch. You know what I mean? Combat jiu-jitsu goes a long way. Your concept, because people get to see
Starting point is 03:54:25 people get bitch slapped. People love people getting bitch slapped. But I think that, I think they're missing something. Well, no, no. I think we already have it. We have it.
Starting point is 03:54:37 We have combat jiu-jitsu. That's the best shit. And then we also have quintet. Quintet is the best way to make jiu-jitsu a team sport. Quintet is the best way to make jujitsu a team sport. Quintet is awesome. It's awesome. What I'm talking about is they're missing something that makes it mainstream.
Starting point is 03:54:52 All it is, remember UFC? We all knew in the UFC when it was underground, we all knew that it was the greatest sport ever. We all knew that, but the world didn't know that. And what happened to awaken the world was't know that and and what what happened uh to to awaken the world was the ultimate fighter with forrest griffin and uh stephen stephen bonner right that's the one that blew everybody knows that's part of history you could put that in that ufc documentary that show blew up mma blew up the ufc and it wasn't because like all of a sudden the ufc became
Starting point is 03:55:24 more entertaining after that like they figured it out after that it was always the same sport but over here no one knew about it over here everybody knows about it and they love it there just needed some there just needed to be something to expose the world to what already existed not like change what already existed right and it was already perfect just people didn't know about it. Now people know about it. It's the same thing. Ultimate Fighter, Forrest Griffin, they blew it up. When it comes to grappling,
Starting point is 03:55:51 I think it's going to be some... We're going to do Combat Jiu-Jitsu World's quintet style. We're going to do both. We're doing both. Are you going to do tag team? No. That tag team shit is hilarious. Do you remember what... You know what quintet is, right? Yes. Quintet is five against five, right? And very, it's random who winds up with who.
Starting point is 03:56:09 It's amazing. In terms of weight classes. So what I'm going to do is do combat jujitsu. Five against five. Oh, no, don't do that. Bro, the big guys are going to smash the little people. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But we're going to change it.
Starting point is 03:56:20 It's going to be five on five, but it's going to be the featherweights. Everyone's going to be 145. Oh, okay. Everybody's going to be the same weight. Good. We're not going to do David and G going to be five on five, but it's going to be the featherweights. Everyone's going to be 145. Everybody's going to be the same weight. We're not going to do David and Goliath. Because all that ends up happening there is the small guy tries to survive to get the big guy out. So that kind of fucks up the strategy of pure jujitsu. But when everybody's the same weight, there's no reason to take anybody out. Every fight, you want to beat the guy Not just hold him
Starting point is 03:56:45 Because if I'm going against a guy that's 20 pounds heavier than me The smart strategy would be Just don't get tapped and hold on and get him out of there Right That fucks up the sport Did they set it up where the five people have a total weight limit Yes So there's all these mismatches
Starting point is 03:57:01 But it's a beautiful thing I love that too But I'm going to do it different. A total weight limit? Yeah, like five people, 850 pounds or something like that. 900 pounds or something like that. So you got to figure out what you got to choose,
Starting point is 03:57:14 like all 170 pounders. It's interesting. It's pretty badass, but when it comes to combat jiu-jitsu, they all got to be this, we're going to do welterweights five on five. You have to. You know, middleweights five on five, but the same thing like if if there's a draw here they both get dq'd
Starting point is 03:57:29 it's going to be the same concept but at the end what's going to be a little different too is that a lot of times in um in quintet you have like every match is a draw and they all you know they're it's a tie they're all eliminated at the same time so then at that point they go to whoever has the most penalty cards and if that's a tie then they go to a judge's decision and my version we if it goes to a tie then we go uh each team picks the opposing team's ebi ot competitor and they decide an eBI OT which is basically a rear naked choke shootout we do it a little
Starting point is 03:58:07 different we're keeping that EBI OT as a tiebreaker that's it not in every match just at the very end of it's a tie
Starting point is 03:58:15 we go to EBI OT I love it it's a great idea it's gonna be crazy yeah it's gonna be nuts dude I think grappling is probably
Starting point is 03:58:23 just even watching grappling on YouTube. I mean, many times I look at videos, there's a million views. Many times. There's more people watching grappling and paying attention to high-level grappling on YouTube now than I think any time that I could ever remember. Yeah, there's so many shows now. There's Fight to Win.
Starting point is 03:58:40 What's Chael Sutton's one? Submission Underground. Submission Underground. Submission Underground. Yeah, and then there's Kasai, and then there's Finishers, which they got a great one. They got a quintet-style Finishers coming up. Ultimate Matt Warriors. It's a good time for combat sports. Yeah, there's a whole shitload. Dude, you know what I'm looking forward to as much as anything?
Starting point is 03:59:00 What? Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury 2. Oh, shit. When is that? That's soon. Soon? A couple soon so i want to say that's february is that what it is jamie february 22nd february and that's the one where tyson got knocked down and he rose from the dead yeah and he won or lost well he still was a draw it was a draw but most people feel like if you look at it objectively there's two ways of looking at it if you look at it objectively tyson fury outboxed him he beat him 10 rounds to two but if you look at it in
Starting point is 03:59:30 terms of like chaos and wildness and what counts more deontay wilder floored him twice at one time literally you saw his soul pull out of his body then he grabbed his soul by the ankle and dragged it back in. Tyson Fury just rose like no one expected and fought his way out of a terrible situation and then dominated the rest of the round. In my eyes, Tyson Fury won the fight. But in my eyes, I'm fine with a draw because Deontay Wilder nuked him into orbit twice. It was so chaos.
Starting point is 04:00:06 I couldn't say who really won. I want to watch that shit. And I gave up on boxing, but I watch the heavyweight division now. It seems like it's awesome now. Deontay is from another planet, man. He's got Thanos' glove in his right hand. How about Francis Ngannou against him? Well, I mean, Francis, I think
Starting point is 04:00:22 Francis really legitimately could be a top-tier heavyweight because of his power and because of his speed. His knockout ability is insane. If he really got into boxing the way he got into MMA, I think he really could be a top-flight boxer. But you wouldn't want him just jumping right in with Deontay Wilder. Deontay Wilder is a bronze medalist in the Olympics, world-class boxer.
Starting point is 04:00:41 I mean, he has an insane record. The most insane, you know he has the most insane record in the history of the heavyweight division i think if i'm right pull up deontay wilders mike tyson oh dude listen way more way craziers it's literally 40 knockouts one draw one decision wow dude every fight's a knockout he's a fucking monster that is the most he's a Every fight's a knockout. He's a fucking monster. That's the most insane. That is the most insane. He's a monster. He's a monster, dude. He's a monster.
Starting point is 04:01:10 No one hits like him. It doesn't make any sense. He hit that last dude, Luis Ortiz, in the forehead, and his body went to it. Just shut down. He just bop. He just catches guys with these punches, and everybody gets flying. You had him on the show? He's a great guy.
Starting point is 04:01:23 He was on the show, right? Yeah, he's a great guy. You know what he told me? He told me that when he fought Tyson Fury, he weighed 209 pounds. I was like, what? He goes, yeah, I don't know why I was so light. That's just how heavy I was. He doesn't try to put on weight because he knows he can nuke people.
Starting point is 04:01:39 And it's all stand-up, right? So there's probably a benefit of being a 209 pound guy in boxing where there's no there's no leg kicks it's speed and he has crazy power like his undeniable power but no one could smother him and drag him to the ground do all kinds of shit that heavy people can do in a fight an mma fight right now he in boxing i think he might have an advantage i think that yeah at 210 pounds that's probably the max weight for power like anything extra is going to slow down the power now you're going to slow down the speed i would agree with you until you get to francis francis hits so much harder than anyone that's 205 pounds dude he hits people so hard francis is a different animal because he hits like a really strong
Starting point is 04:02:26 205 pounder but then you add 60 pounds of muscle on top of that I know what you're saying but what I'm saying is once you start sacrificing speed maybe it's the speed because he's smaller the speed gets it through and he's got enough power maybe not the most power you could have but enough
Starting point is 04:02:44 power to knock people out but he still has the speed and he's got enough power. Maybe not the most power he could have, but enough power to knock people out. But he still has the speed because he's smaller? Maybe. Does that make sense? I mean, it's a trade-off for sure, but I don't think Francis is slow at all. See, the thing about a Francis guy is like a thing about Connor in a lot of ways. What does he walk at? Francis is giant, man.
Starting point is 04:03:01 He walks at 250? More than 260. Oh, okay. More than 260 walking around and moves very fast. But those guys that have a lot of, like Connor, fast twitch muscle fiber. Firas Ahabi talked about it on the podcast. He was like, those guys, they're sprinters. They're just jumping and leaping.
Starting point is 04:03:18 And Daniel Cormier always talks about them as big actions. These big actions they're doing. They require a lot of energy. And those guys are rarely the guys who have, like, the most stamina. But they're the guys who are definitely the most dangerous for short amounts of time. And if you saw in the Stipe fight, Stipe weathered the storm with Francis
Starting point is 04:03:38 and then grabbed a hold of him and managed to wear him out, start dragging him to the ground, and beat him up on the ground. That fight showed you what the problems are with that like fucking sprinting style like you you gotta fight every fight like you know this guy can definitely make it to the fifth round yeah you gotta fight every fight like you're not looking for the knockout but if it's there it's awesome yeah and if you don't you're never gonna beat the elite for the worst and the elite of the elite is stipe stipe is the elite of the elite. Prepare for the worst. And the elite of the elite is Stipe. Stipe is the elite of the elite.
Starting point is 04:04:09 He's the guy who's regained the heavyweight title. He's defended it more than anybody ever. Ever? Ever. He's got the record. Stipe Miocic has defended the UFC heavyweight title more than anyone. How many times is that? I believe it's four. I believe he had four successful title defenses.
Starting point is 04:04:23 That's crazy. Yes. And then loses Daniel Cormier and then comes back and knocks out Daniel Cormier to retain the title. That's a Muhammad Ali type epic show. He's epic. He's epic. Stipe's epic. He doesn't get nearly enough love for what he's done, like for martial arts. It's just he's not as flashy as some guys.
Starting point is 04:04:42 He doesn't talk a lot of shit. He just puts his nose to the grindstone and gets his work done. But if you look at his accomplishments, knocked out Alistair Overeem, knocked out Junior Dos Santos. I mean, he's a fucking monster, man. He's a monster, you know? Knocks out Daniel Cormier to regain his title. He's a fucking animal.
Starting point is 04:05:02 And the only guy, I mean, Derek Lewis beat Francis Ngannou, but it was a crazy fight where really nothing happened. It was a weird fight. But Stipe is the first guy to beat him. Stipe beat him. He got a hold of Francis and he actually beat him. He's the only guy. Everybody else is just
Starting point is 04:05:20 running from those hammers, son. Those hammers coming at you from Francis. Are you a Stipe fan because he's from Cleveland? Does that have any bearing? Sure. Oh, really? Okay. He's the man.
Starting point is 04:05:30 Cleveland people probably don't like Columbus people when they're all in Ohio together. Why's that? Once they're outside. No, no. Then they become like, okay, we got an Ohio people, we got a six. It's Ohio, Michigan, not Ohio, Ohio. More Browns fans in Columbus than Bengals fans, right? More Bengals fans.
Starting point is 04:05:46 It's very close. 50-50? Yeah. Damn. Okay. Ohio's an awesome spot, man. It's a fun spot to go to, too. It's like a fun spot to do stand-up at.
Starting point is 04:05:57 I'm trying to book some gigs out there. I'm trying to do a seminar out there. Do you do seminar and show same weekend? I try to do a show on Friday night, seminar Saturday morning, and then get the fuck out. But sometimes when I'll do a show Saturday night, too, it's hard to do a seminar. Sometimes I can't do it both. What's the most time you've ever done on stage? 40 minutes.
Starting point is 04:06:20 Damn. Yeah. Look at that. Is that a lot? It's a good amount. It's close to headliner. You know, like it used to be that a headliner had to do 45. It used to be there was 15 minutes for the opener,
Starting point is 04:06:32 30 minutes for the middle act, and then 45 minutes for the closer. That was always the formula. I like just being that dude opening up. No pressure. If I fuck up, you're going to have a killer neck, so relax. You know what I mean? I like no pressure if i fuck up you're gonna have a killer neck so relax you know what i mean i like no pressure i like just being i like hiding behind sam tripoli i love that shit i'm like
Starting point is 04:06:51 you got a you got a killer about to go on so if i don't do so well um just sam tripoli he sam tripoli's the tip of the spear when it comes to stand up that's what i always call him i'm like that's the front line that's the guy we send in when you know because sam will go hard yeah sam trippley will go hard the paint you know the one thing i i think about the comedy store and back when we used to hang out there in 2001 and all the people that were there like ari and sam trippley and duncan all those dudes back then like sebastian and eddie griffin, all those dudes back then, like Sebastian and Eddie Griffin, all those dudes, they blew the fuck up.
Starting point is 04:07:31 But not everybody. Not Sam, not Steve Simone. There's a couple other guys, but some dudes just got fucking big. Everyone's fucking rich now. It's crazy. And my philosophy is, not philosophy,
Starting point is 04:07:44 but what I take from comedy is, for sure you're going to give your best performance when you have like a packed house and they all love you. You're going to give a good performance, right? Because you feel all that energy and it gives it back to you. As opposed to like doing standup in front of like six people and they don't know who you are. That's probably not going to be your best set, maybe.
Starting point is 04:08:06 Most of the time, it ain't going to be your best set. It ain't going to compare to a whole fucking room filled with people that love you. And then all that energy makes you give your best performance ever, right? And Sam never really got that. So Sam was always like, hey, yeah, he's a good comic,
Starting point is 04:08:22 but no one was saying, oh, he's amazing. They were saying, he, yeah, he's a good comic, but no one was saying, oh, he's amazing. They were saying, hey, he's good, he's good, because they only saw him without fame in front of audiences like in the OR where no one really knew him. So those are fucking hard crowds, dude. That's a hard room, dude. But now when we're doing Tinfoil Hat, people are showing up for him, dude. They love him. So now you're seeing Sam in front of 200 people, 250 people that love him or screaming for him.
Starting point is 04:08:52 And you're seeing the best of him because now he's got a crowd that's screaming for him. And he comes out, dude, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, he crushes on the road. When we go on the road and do a tinfoil hat sam destroys i'm sure dude i've known sam forever it's crazy he's a funny guy i'm glad it's all happening so the thing with comedy is like you never really get to see what a comic really is about until he performs in front of a and it's like a catch-22 because you ain't gonna have a packed room that knows you unless you acquired some kind of fame somehow through a tv show or through something through the internet but man now you're starting to see right now you're starting to see the real sam like you're starting to see him peeking and shit it's
Starting point is 04:09:33 it's awesome every time we go out there i'm like dude you're fucking crushing he's out there just smashing beautiful yeah shout out to sam sam and not only that dude seriously, Sam is one of the fucking coolest guys I've ever met. He's beautiful. You know I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. That guy is a beautiful person. I'm doing his show on Tuesday. The Armenian Assassin.
Starting point is 04:09:52 Oh, shit. Eddie Bravo. This was fun, man. Thank you, man. Can I give a couple plugs? Yeah, give a plug. January 24th, Dallas, Fort Worth. Hyenas.
Starting point is 04:10:02 Tinfoil Hat Me and Sam. And then the next day, January 25th, in Oklahoma City at Bricktown Comedy Club. Hope to see you there. Thank you very much. Love everybody. Oh, and stay tuned. We're going to be announcing a big 420 show in Vancouver.
Starting point is 04:10:19 Oh, shit! It'll be announced this week. We're very excited. Oh, shit. That's it. Bye, everybody. 420. What's going on out there?

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