The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - July 7, 2014

Episode Date: July 6, 2014

Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen sits down with Joe to watch the fights on the evening of July 7, 2014. Brendan and Bryan are also hosting The Fighter & The Kid podcast, available on Spotify.

All right, you're on. We're on live? Yeah. We're on live, ladies and gentlemen. Nobody even knows it. Justice Goggins is about to fight. There was a bit of a delay with Callan and Schaub getting here. Southwest Airlines.

Yeah, Southwest Airlines. They fly every 15 minutes. It's amazing they get it anywhere at all. I agree. It's like a bus. They fly all the time. They fucking fly everywhere. Anywhere anybody won't fly, they're like, all right, we're cool.

If you never heard this podcast before, this is what we call Fight Companion Podcast. Scoggins, this kid right here, Justin Scoggins? That's his name, right? Yeah, that's right. He's a bad motherfucker. I called one of his fights before, and he is about to fight. The fight is going to start. Mario Yamasaki says go now.

The fight starts now. Pressure. Really interesting fighter. He fights. He's got like this karate style. But he also throws a lot of traditional martial arts techniques, and he's got a wrestling background, so it's pretty interesting. Oh, he's getting dragged to the ground.

Look at this. Scoggins is the guy with the black shorts. He's the guy on the bottom. Dustin Ortiz. Justin Scoggins and Dustin Ortiz. Dustin came out pressure, man. Yeah, big pressure. Just put it on him right away.

Which is pretty impressive because Scoggan's a good wrestler. If you've never heard this podcast before, this is what we call a fight companion podcast. What we do is we watch the fights live. We're watching the fights live. It's 4.15 on the clock right now, if you want to sync up. Who's trying to set up? We, um... Arbar, son.

Arbar, son. Pretty good, pretty good. Oh, it's tight. Very nice. I like how he scooted his hips up there. That was some expert shit. Oh, it's tight. Very nice. I like how he scooted his hips up there. That was some expert shit. Oh, sneaky. We do these podcasts while the fights are going live, and we talk while the fights are happening.

And that's what we're doing right now. Dustin Ortiz is on top. Justin Scoggins is on the bottom. Who came out with Fight Companion? Who came out with that? I don't know. It just happened. It just kind of happened.

But it's a good way to call it. Yeah. And so a lot of people, what they do is they watch this, and they watch the fights at the same time. If you're doing that, look at these kind of kneeing him in the face when he's down, which is kind of a sneaky thing you can do, right? Can you do that? Yeah, you can. Oh, he's done.

He's done. He's done. It's going to pop. I'm sorry he's not stopping. Look at he's putting his foot in between. I'm sorry he's not stopping. Look at this, putting his foot on there. That's pretty slick.

That's super slick, son. Slick, but oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, this. He's putting his foot on there. That's pretty slick. That's super slick, son. Slick, but... Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. It's hyperextended. Oh, this is so ugly. Damn, that dude is gangster. He's so tough that he's not... Wow.

Wow, he got out of that. That was amazing. He got out of that. But keep an eye on that arm. That arm might be jackmified. For sure. Jackmified. Another word.

Yeah, that thing's done, son. That arm, that arm might be jackmified. For sure. Jackmified. Jackmified, at least. Another word. Yeah, that thing's done, son. That arm, for sure, it's going to suck jerking off of that thing for the next couple of weeks. You're going to have to play the mystery man. You're going to have to use the left arm, Doug. It's going to get really weird. Play the mystery man. Well, it was his left arm, wasn't it? Oh, yeah.

Well, he was. Wasn't it? If he's left-handed, right-handed. We'd have to go back over it again. I'm pretty sure it was his left arm that he was attacking. Yeah, you're right. But Scoggins, very high on this kid. He's only 21, too.

Wow. And like I said, wrestling background, but real good at karate. He's out of ATT? Yeah. Are these guys 35ers? 125, they're flyweights. 125, wow. Are these guys 35ers? 125. They're flyweights. 125. Wow.

These motherfuckers go for days. Wow. Cardio is even in their mind. They don't even think about it. They should have 25-minute rounds. Look at that. 25-minute rounds. Three 25-minute rounds.

They're hummingbirds. Let's keep that hand down. Yeah. Look at this. Scoggins takes his back. Very nice. Good roll by Dustin. Dustin looks like more of a wrestler. And Scoggins has a lot more jujitsu.

Jujitsu. Jujitsu. But look at this. Dustin's not giving up, man. Motherfucker's on his back right now. Ooh, good trip. So we just got back from Vegas, too. Incredible fights, man.

What a fucking weekend. Amazing fights. Look at this. Ortiz is getting Scoggins back. Scoggins fighting off those hooks. He's going to spin. Look at that. Look at this.

He's going to spin. Trying to hit that switch. The cage is in the way. Cage fucks you up a lot of times, huh? Cage really limits a lot of stuff. It can help you sometimes, especially if you're a ground and pound guy. Wrestler ground and pound, it's a dream for you. But as a jiu-jitsu guy, it makes things tougher, I think.

You can't shrimp out. Dustin Ortiz is Duke Rufus' guy. Very interesting. That's why he's so popular. Who is Duke Rufus? How dare you? Sorry. How dare you ever do a podcast about fighting?

It's for the fans. It's for the fans. I like asking questions that a lot of people don't know. It's too bad we don't have like a whip. That's what I'm here for. If we had like a whip and they just slapped Callan when he says that. For real, how do you not know who Duke Rufus is? I don't know.

Only this guy can drop down for a guillotine. Duke Rufus is the brother of Rick Rufus, Rick the Jet Rufus, who was one of the big PKA karate stars, like one of the most exciting ones. Best ever. Yeah, amazing fighter who turned into a Muay Thai fighter after he had some Muay Thai fighters and got fucked up. And then his brother, Duke, after Rick got fucked up by some Thai fighters, his brother went into Muay Thai himself,

and Duke became a Muay Thai world champion, and now he trains Anthony Pettis, Sergio P pettis he's trained alan belcher he's trained a lot of high level fighters and he trains this guy dustin ortiz too he was on my podcast last week uh two weeks ago great really good guy man really good salt of the earth yes couldn't get a nicer person and super like super intelligent and really well read uh when it comes to fighting. She knows everything about Muay Thai, especially. On TV, a lot of empty seats out there in the crowd. Well, this is one of the first fights of the second card of the second day, and they're in a 14,000-seat arena.

Dude, if you're a UFC fan, you are just jizzing your pants for this weekend. Listen, there's no big – look at me right now. Have you ever seen me in this? I have one lazy eye. I'm exhausted. Just got off the plane, straight to Rogan Studios. Exhausted. Nowhere to go.

And UFC, what? I mean, it's been UFC 24-7. I'm like CNN of UFC right now. Well, I was out drinking with Mark Delgrate, Brian Callen, Brian Stan, my buddy Justin, and we were out until 4 o'clock in the fucking morning. I had to get up at 7 and catch my flight. I didn't realize how late it was. Yeah.

Well, that's Vegas, man. Everybody's at 4 o'clock in the morning. The place is mobbed. Yeah. And also, the casinos are set up so you don't realize how late it is. Yeah. There's music, the lights. Dustin with a nice left hook there.

Look at this. Boom with the right hand. And then Dustin with a nice left hook there. Look at this. Boom with the right hand. And then taking it. Boom with the left. Look at this. Car- Boom. After two days in Vegas, though, I'm good.

You can keep it. You can keep it. You feel like you're being cooked under a lamp. You can keep it. That's my thoughts exactly. Two days in Vegas is all you need. Some dudes love it there, man. I know.

Some of the gamblers. Look at how Scoggin it there, man. I know. Some gamblers. Look at how Scoggin's style, man. It's a really interesting style for a guy who's a good wrestler. Footwork's interesting, for sure. Yeah, it's all karate. He's very Machida-like. Look at that. But he throws a lot of front leg sidekicks. Almost like point style.

Dustin Ortiz is no joke, though, man. Not at all, man. Just bringing it. I love that leprechaun beard, too. joke, though, man. Not at all, man. Just bringing it. I love that leprechaun beard, too. Oh, bulletproof coffee. This podcast can get a lot better once I digest this. Oh, look at this. Scoggins with a beautiful tie-up of that.

He's got that right arm hooked like he's going for a crucifix here. Someone almost got a crucifix this weekend. I forget who it was. Someone rolled into a crucifix. Did the same thing. Tied up one arm. One of who it was. Someone rolled into a crucifix. Did the same thing. Tied up one arm. One of my faves. Beautiful. Drysdale got a rear naked choke first round.

Did he really? Yep. First fight of the night. Not surprising. Drysdale's a monster. All I know is I got to hang out with Dan Severin. The Beast. Yes. He looks... His skin's better than anyone's in this room. 56 years old. Couldn't look better. Yeah, it's amazing, right?

Was he drinking fucking raw milk all day and stuff? I don't know. Yeah. Wearing a farm somewhere. Yeah. He looks like a muscular Freddie Mercury. He's a great guy, too. Yeah.

He's got some great stories about the old wrestling days, international wrestling. Look at this. Ortiz rolls Dustin over right in front of Rufus. The other thing about having a coach like Duke Rufus is he's such a great guy that he motivates you so much. You want to fight well for him. You want to win for him. That's real, man.

Guys talk about their relationships that they have with their trainers like that. Me and Dwayne were talking. I had breakfast with Dwayne in Vegas for a time. Him and TJ held close there. He was saying for him it's cool because it's like he's living through TJ. He wished he had himself as a coach when he's coming up. So for TJ, it's cool.

That is interesting. It takes a lifetime to accumulate knowledge. And a lot of times, by the time guys get there, their bodies are worn out. It's crazy that TJ had no time to bask in the championship. He'd just go right back in the camp. I don't like that. I was talking to TJ about it. He goes, I'm right bask in the championship. He'd just go right back into camp. I don't like that. Right back after.

I was talking to TJ about it. He goes, I'm right back into camp. I said, already, man? You just won the belt. He goes, yeah, that's what they want, man. I said, all right. Well, you know, it was supposed to be in Vegas. It was supposed to be August, the late August show.

It was supposed to be in Vegas. And something happened. They decide to move it to Sacramento because it's TJ's hometown. Good for TJ. Yeah, great for TJ. Terrible for Burrow because of the quick turnaround after a KO. That's the only thing that concerns me. But why rush it like this?

That's a good question. Burrow's camp wanted it. They wanted it right away. They think it was a fluke. No, homie. A fluke is if you get hit right in the first round and get knocked out think it was a fluke. No, homie. A fluke is if you get hit right, like in the first round, get knocked out. That's a fluke. Yeah, they don't.

Five rounds of a pure-ass whooping is not a fluke. They think the five rounds came about because of the first round. Because he clipped him? Because he got dropped in the first round. He didn't know where the fuck he was for the rest of the fight. Oh, wow. He went into the fifth round, apparently, and he thought it was the third round. He had no idea what was going on.

I get that. I get that. That speaks to your point about having him fight that early, though. He needs more time off. Oh, yeah. That's head trauma, man. Well, you know, those Brazilians are tough as nails, man. They want to get that title back.

It's almost a default, though, you know? Yeah. Dustin Ortiz is strong as fuck, dude. Look at this. Meanwhile, he's all over Scoggins. Unbelievable. And Scoggins is like this kid that has a lot of hype behind him, and justifiably, but I am blown away by Dustin Ortiz.

Bring it. I mean, just the fact that he got out of that armbar, man. That armbar was fucking nasty. It was his left arm. You're right. I saw on the replay it was his left arm. Was it? Yeah.

You're correct. So maybe jerk's off lefty. We don't know. We don't know. Maybe he makes it up. Could be ambidextrous. Maybe just gets a cortisone shot so he could keep eating off. He's flexible.

He might use both his feet. He's addicted to it. Finds a doctor to give him a cortisone shot so he can continue this jack off. I like how he almost got caught in a bad situation there and instinctively shoved that second arm in. Where Scoggins was fishing for the triangle. Ground and pound's tough, especially if you're a wrestler like this, or you had a wrestling base, and you're heavy on the ground and pound,

like a Mark Munoz, it opens you up for submissions. What are you saying, Brian? This guy in the little box here, I saw him leaning against the... Do you know who that is? No. How dare you again. Yeah, who is it? That's Marcus Conan Silveira. He is such a stud. That guy's a fucking legend. against the uh do you know who that is no no how dare you again yeah that's marcus conan silviera

he is such a stud that guy's a fucking legend he was one of the heavyweight champions of extreme fighting championship he was a part of one of the fights that changed mma really yeah because uh he fought maurice smith and maurice smith head kicked him and nobody yeah we're from denver wow nobody maurice is from denver yeah really Maurice is from Denver? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Originally? Yep. No kidding.

He trained out of Seattle, though, right? Mm-hmm. He lives in Seattle now. Ran into Maurice this weekend at the Lion Fights. Really? Yeah, Muay Thai fights. How does he look? Looks great.

Really? Fucking just fought. He's 50. He just fought? Yeah, he won head kick. What? What? Yeah.

At 50? 50. Oh, my God. Yeah, had a fight. Who did he fight? Some guy who shouldn't have been fighting Maurice Smith. Yeah, yeah, yeah., had a fight. Who did he fight? Some guy who shouldn't have been fighting, Maury Smith. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Some guy who needs to work on his technique.

Some guy. A guy who Maury Smith beat the shit out of. Tell me about Conan and the fight. Oh, so Conan was a jiu-jitsu black belt, and that was back at the time when everybody thought the jiu-jitsu black belts were, like, unstoppable. Like, if someone was a jiu-jitsu black belt, it was it. You know, you were getting killed.

It was like the hoist Gracie days, the early days. It was like 93, 94, somewhere around there. And Maurice Smith leg kicked the fuck out of him and then head kicked him. Wow. Yeah, just kept the fight standing. When he got taken to the ground, used good butterflies, got back up to his feet. Just really never.

Maurice's ground game was all about defense, 100% defense. It was all butterflies and defense and endurance maurice has crazy crazy cardio for a heavyweight i remember did yeah i remember that fight with mark coleman i remember that so well just kept kicking him going what's up come on ground about me mark mark coleman but that's what he said during the pre-fight he was like i'm gonna ground the shit out of him and so i was there man i was there live i interviewed him after the fight that was back when i was the post-fight interviewer And Maurice was standing in front of him

He goes, come on, Mark Ground and pound me Come on, Mark Whack! Leg kick Come on, Mark He was talking to him like that? Yeah, he was just, come on, ground and pound me

Come on, ground and pound me Whack! Damn, gangster Whacked him with that leg kick, yeah Pure gangsterism Yeah But he was, he's not an Maurice is an interesting guy

Because he's not like an angry guy That we tried to You know, like Mark was done. He was so exhausted. But Maurice never like tried to close the deal, never tried to finish him off. Just fought real smart but was fucking with him and beating his ass. Some guys are like that, right? Guys with real nice personalities.

Like you look at like a Pacquiao who doesn't want to hurt anyone. Yeah. Maurice is like he loves to play around like he's a silly goose. But Conan just looked like – I was watching him as you were taking pictures, and I looked at him, and he's so wide, and he looked like just an old lion with barnacles on him, just sitting there. Not Sonya on this one. No, not at all.

He just looked like. We'll be right back. Dustin Ortiz with a nice straight left. This is a great fucking fight. Meanwhile, we're talking about all sorts of shit from the past, and Scoggins and Ortiz are going to war. Having a crazy fight. Oh, back kick. This is a great fight. Scoggins takes him down again. Hey, Brendan, thanks for making me do a wheel kick in my jeans this morning at 10 in the morning.

That was a lot of fun in front of a bunch of people. That was good for you, man. Yeah. That was someone else's idea, though. Yeah, that's real good. I had to hold the thing. What are you talking about? What was good about it?

Nothing. Nothing. I thought Cal was going to blow his asshole out doing this kick. Exactly. His jeans were super tight, too. How often do you throw kicks? Like once a year? Actually, since I've been boxing, I kick the bag now,

but nothing like that. I don't throw wheel kicks. I had no business doing that. Some fan demanded it. Head and arm, head and arm. Yeah, head and arm choke. Oh, boy. Stuck in half guard, though.

Very hard to finish from half guard. Look at this. Dustin rolls over. Oh, Scoggin stays on him. Unbelievable fight. This is why I love little guys, man. The transitions, I love it. You don't see heavyweights moving like this. Dustin rolls over. Oh, Scoggin stays on him. Unbelievable fight, man. This is why I love little guys, man. The transitions, I love it. You don't see heavyweights moving like this.

Wish I was little. I was talking to Callum the way here. I wish I was little. I wish I was tiny, man. Callum goes, no, you don't. It's good to be the king of the beach. Bitch, I don't care about the beach. Fuck the beach.

You say you don't care about the beach. I won't be in the octagon rolling around with everyone. You say that. Meanwhile, sitting next to you, wedged in those little seats on Southwest, I wish you were smaller. Have you ever thought about trying to go to 205? Yeah, I have. I've thought about it before.

Towards the end of my career, I'll do it. I'll do one cut to it. Everyone seems to do that. It's like the older phase of the guys. They make the cut. But, yeah, I mean, right now I'm 250 pounds. Jeez, that's a tough cut. That's a really tough cut.

Everyone always asks me that, though. You're about 230 fight week, though, right? 235. So when you think about that, you're not watching your diet at all. I mean, you're eating healthy, but you're not. Think about some of the shit that some of these guys do. Like a guy like Weidman. What does Weidman walk around at before he tries to make

185? He's a big fucking guy. Yeah. Yeah, he is. This is the difference. A lot of those guys get crazy out of shape in between fights. Like, crazy out of shape. I don't. You know? Like, I don't put on tons of weight. Who puts on the

most weight in between fights? Well, it used to be Rumble Johnson. Yeah, Anthony Johnson. I've never seen anything like it. He was walking around at 235. He sucked down to 170. And we were doing this movie, and I looked at him. I said, what do you weigh right now? He goes, about 235.

I said, you're going to make 170 in two months? He goes, I'll make it. I think it was six weeks. This fight is fucking madness. This fight is awesome. We should really pay attention to this fight because it's so good. It is really good. It's a crazy scramble.

Dustin Ortiz is no joke, man. He's on the map now. Win, lose, or draw, he's on the map. Because this is a great fight. I like how this guy's protecting his knee. There you go. Go for the knee bar. Look at that. Beautiful how he switched it. Yeah, there you go. Go for the knee bar. Look at that.

Beautiful how he switched it. Yeah, nice. And wound up on top. He unlocked his legs. Pressure on him, man. Yeah. Well, he's strong. Ortiz is very strong.

This is great stuff. Look, he's covering Scoggins' face. That's a sneaky fucking move, man. You know, we were talking about this the other day, that Brian Carraway fish hook incident. That's dark sneaky fucking move, man You know, we were talking about this the other day That Brian Carraway fishhook incident That's dark, man That's frowned upon I can't believe how long he held that fishhook

That's not by accident No I think he said it was a genuine accident, right? Well, that's what he said I don't want to call him a liar But I think I just did I like Carraway I like him a lot I i think i just did yeah i like carraway i like him a lot i mean he might have not even known he was doing it because he was so ferocious

in the heat of the moment trying to finish that show but that's a crazy come on bro i'm trying to be nice i know that was a straight fish that was a straight straight elementary yard fish complete total fish hook how long did he hold it for? Five seconds, more, maybe. Right? Just yanking him back. Maybe five seconds. Solid five seconds. Yeah, like five seconds is a long time.

For anything. One, two, three. You know, that's a long time. And he's got his fingers deep in this guy's mouth. And he's pulling them towards him to try to get the choke. Playing for keeps. Are they really doing a purge, too that a commercial starring one of my best friends frank grillo did you see purge one though no of course i didn't man i kind of like him i can't

wait for that bro one started i can't wait purge one started as a small movie it started i think they made the movie for something really tiny like like a million dollars whatever they spent it was too much it was so popular that et Ethan Hawke made $7 million on that movie. Why are you blowing up Ethan Hawke's spot? I'm just telling you what I made. People are going to hit him up for loans now. There you go, baby. I need some cash.

Yo, Ethan, man, I have this independent project. How many guys come to you with independent projects they're doing? Three a day, including emails. Really? You get it too, Joe? Yeah. I get dudes want me to help them produce their animated features. Animated features? Animated things, movies, TV

shows. A good friend fucking gave me an ear beating, a ferocious ear beating the other day about some reality show he's trying to put together. You're in the TV business. I go, how am I am i in the tv what the fuck you're talking about what does that mean well you had that tv show man you know you're in the tv business and i'm trying to put together this show well find somebody who actually is like a tv producer yeah i want you to help me connect me no i don't have time i don't have time this is the difference between me and you guys no one hits me up about doing that stuff. I get dick pics. That's what I do. I get dick pics on Instagram and Twitter.

Who won this fight? I get long. It's tough, man. Get some volume here, Jamie. I want to hear who won this fight. I think you're going to give it to your boy on the right. Oh. I bet they give it to Dustin.

Wow. He just brought the pressure, man. Take that. Wow. Dustin Ortiz with the split decision. Solid beer. Wow. Scoggins is very bummed out, man. Take that. Wow. Dustin Ortiz with the split decision. Solid beer. Wow. Scoggins is very bummed out, man.

Of course. Wow. Wow. Wow. You know what? We were talking so much, we didn't really score that. That's fair. I don't know if it's fair.

I'd have to watch it. No, I'm saying that's fair. You're saying we're talking so much. I always say that. Sometimes during a fight, while we're doing commentary, I talked about that's fair. You're saying we're talking so much. I always say that. Like, sometimes during a fight, like while we're doing commentary, like I talked about it with Jimmy Smith, the last fight companion, when you motherfuckers weren't around. Good schedules, dog.

Not committed. Good schedules, man. Not committed. Busy, son. But Jimmy Smith was great, and Ian McCall was on it, too. It was really fun. It was good, huh? But Jimmy was talking about they make him score at Bellator.

They make him score the rounds. Oh, that's dope. Yeah, but they make him score the rounds while he's doing commentary. And I'm like, man, I don't know about that. That's tough. I don't do it. Me, personally, I could do it, but I don't want to do it. I say it during the podcast.

I say, you know, I think this guy won the fight or won the rounds, but the reality is if you want to really call the fight correctly, you have to shut your mouth. You're still scoring it boxing-wise, right? Well, it's a 10-point must system, but it's really dumb because you're working within a flawed system. Right, yeah. But the real problem with that flawed system is a round in boxing

is three minutes and there's a bunch of them. You know, a regular fight is 10 rounds. Non-title fights, 10 fucking rounds. Title fight is 12 rounds. You know, in an MMA fight, big difference. Three rounds, only three rounds. And there could be a 10-9 round where one guy just beats the shit out of a guy. And then another 10-9 round where it's like a toss-up.

That doesn't make any sense to me. Why is that? Because it sucks. Because the system sucks. The sport's so new, too. We stole a system. We stole a judging system from boxing. Because there just isn't a criteria for somebody keeping pressure on, holding position on somebody,

takedowns. Takedown defense? How about takedown defense? How about that? That should go a long way. How about submission attempts? Yeah. Submission defense.

Yeah. All that stuff should be. And there should be like a scale of like one to ten of how close a submission is. Yes. Okay, like Scoggins and Ortiz. Perfect example. That was a fucking nine. That armbar was a fucking nine.

Nine and a half. That was about as close as you can get to not getting tapped. You have to take that into consideration. Yeah, he got out of it. Not mad at her at all. Little singing bird. She's probably 14, bro. No.

Whatever. She's solid 24. She's already tattooed up. I can't believe that. She can't be 14. That's not legal. I'll tell you what was fun, though, at the expo. I'll tell you what was so fun.

In Thailand. The questions I was getting about Arlovsky. Oh, that was amazing. Here's the guy we were in the elevator with. It was exhausting, man. Dude, what happened? Although I had you, man. And I do this.

Then I'm finally out of there. I'm like, all right, this was a good day. This is fun. Last interview. I go on some show. I'm not going to call him out. This dude, I've had an issue with him before. I did not want to do this radio interview because of this.

So I do this interview, and he goes, yeah, man, that fight was awful. That sucked. Excuse me, sir? You're 300 pounds. You've never fought in your life. You can't talk to people like that, man. I will never come on your show again after you criticize me like that. Did you say that to him?

Oh, when we were done, he's like, listen, man, I'm going to give you my – don't bother. Do not bother, man. I was like, I'm good. You know me. I don't like confrontation. Right i was like oh i'm good man just walked away but well it's crazy to me crazy to me man yeah that fight was terrible i said i said that's fine who'd you have winning though he was oh you for sure won that i go thanks man you know what it is man it's it's that sports guy radio bullshit there's a certain amount of sports guy

radio bullshit that's leaked into mma you know like that they think that they can be cool well there's no repercussions you can talk to me however you want i can't do anything i'll get in trouble obviously i'm not gonna snap your neck i'd love to i'm not going to i can't do anything yeah it's well even not only that it's just like can't you talk about a fight without being disrespectful to the guy that was fighting like it seemed like you guys knew each other you were both very tentative it was a there was a lot on the line for both of you arlovsky looked particularly nervous yeah like like what was what was frustrating about the fight you could talk about a fight for sure look anybody who's ever competed before

if you've had more than a few fights there's going to be some that are just go off you might be sick you might be injured you might i you know you you can't think that every fight is going to be great they're just not going to be you're going to have shitty ones things happen but in like but the thing is when i talked to him i was like yeah on the, on the air, I go, did that fight suck? 100%. Should I have won? Yeah. Do I need to do things different? Yes. I was banking on, just like I'm used to when I used to train with him, an aggressive Orlovsky, which I hate that we're talking about this again. However, just shit happens. But Orlovsky would come forward aggressive. And I'm a back foot counter fighter. That's how I get my takedowns, my big combinations, stuff like that. So when he's not being aggressive and approaching, I should have adapted and I didn't. So you get a shitty fight. That's what happened, straight up.

Fight sucked. However, I won the fight. So this guy, when you were doing this interview, was he mocking you? What was he doing that was pissing you off so much? No, listen. Obviously, I could take his job if I wanted to on there i just destroyed him on air it was it with everything fight talk everything so he was a little defensive already and i'm like yeah man that fight sucks so

it gave him a chance to jump in oh that fight was terrible oh so before that oh so there was like a build-up already where he was like kind of like. A little bit. And then I even told him. And then he was like, well, what's next? I said, I have no idea, man. This is a weird fight. You know, what they're going to do with me, I don't know. Because technically, really, I won the fight.

They gave Arlovsky a main event against Bigfoot. So obviously they're not too mad at him. So with me, I'm not sure. And I said, who do you think I should fight? And he couldn't come up with anything. He had nothing. with me i'm not sure i said who do you think i should fight and he had you know he just he couldn't come up with anything he had nothing what did you think about the struve situation man that's kind of crazy man heartbroken i was looking forward to that fight and honestly i think it was almost a i don't say a blessing in disguise but i don't think struve would have

won that fight really you're off i don't wow I don't at all. And I think the time away they wanted to give him more of an easier fight. A guy where he could get his bearings back, get used to the octagon and the lights. It's a different animal when you haven't fought in a while. Instead, Mitrione calls him out. Let's explain what happened.

No, go ahead. You got this, Dane. For folks who don't know what happened, Stefan Struve is a really tall fighter. Seven foot. Yeah, he's a skyscraper, they call him. He's legit seven feet. And doing well in the UFC, has some pretty big wins, and then all of a sudden he has a heart condition,

like a serious, legit heart condition. They don't know if he's ever going to be able to fight again. So he takes some time off. I don't know what they did to try to fix his situation. He had surgery on his heart? Oh, my God. He had surgery with these valves and stuff, crazy stuff. Fuck.

In his hometown. He had to see all these doctors before one was like, yeah, let's do this. So anyway, he has his surgery. It takes how much time off? Quite a while. Quite a while, yeah. More than a year. Yes.

Oh, for sure. So he's off for a long time, and he's in the locker room getting ready for his fight, and his heart starts beating, like, really fast, and he has, like, an almost fainting spell. Like, essentially, like, his body goes limp, and they go, yeah, that's about it for you, buddy. And they pull him off the card like which you have to hour before you're supposed to fight can you imagine if that happened inside the octagon they announce his name and this giraffe passes out like an on the side of the cage like a like a zoo animal just imagine if he's like skyscraper before about what he's taking the

steps up to the octagon, he just fucking collapses. Seven foot? No one's catching him, son. He's breaking Ariane's neck when he falls. You know what I'm saying? You don't want that. It's happened plenty of times on a basketball court where somebody didn't live, you know? It has? Sure.

Big guys have a real hard time. Those really tall, tall guys. There's a condition. For real. Yeah, there's a condition, and I can't remember the name of it where people drop dead of a heart attack. Well, they don't live very long. Oh, yeah. Those seven-foot dudes. Well, he has two strikes against

him. One, name the oldest fighter you know. There's not a lot of grandpas out there with cauliflower. You know what I'm saying? It's just not. And then he's seven foot tall with a little nub. I made that up. I don't know if he has a little nub. A little nub for a dick, you're saying? Yes. Why did you say that?

I don't know. How do you dare you? I have no idea. You calm down right now. The man's already having a bad day. I know. I know. Listen, I love Strube, man.

With a little nub. So he's seven foot, and he's a fighter. So yeah, he's on the back nine of life for sure. That's the kind of insult a guy with a giant dick just throws around. Right. All willy-nilly. He's got a little nub. You called him a giraffe, and now he's got a little nub.

Well, giraffe is a perfect way to describe him because he's so long and gangly. I think Mitron would have beat him. Really? I do. I think it was a horrible matchup for him. Because we have the same manager. He was telling me, he's like, yeah, because when I was looking for a fight before Arlovsky, before the Hunt fight fell off, they're like, Struve's going to be back, man. I'm like, I don't want to fight the guy coming back from heart surgery.

Everyone's going to hate me, man. I don't want to, exactly. I'm like, I don't want him dying on me. I don't want to be known as that guy. That's a good point because did you see the Justin Gaethje, Nick Newell fight? I did. I heard Gaethje just beat him. Nick Newell has one arm.

He's a one-armed fighter. And everybody's rooting for him because he's a one-armed fighter. Everybody roots for him. That Gaethje kid's a bad motherfucker. He is. He's an animal. I started with Gaethje. Well, Gaethje, his first day in the gym, I was there.

We had the same head coach in Denver. He's an animal. He's an animal. All-American wrestler. Finished seventh at Nationals. Brutal striker. Brutal striker. And Nick Newell's tough as shit. I didn't see the fight. I know Gaethje just

manhandled him, right? Beat him up. He's got one arm. That's the weird thing. It's like you're watching a guy beat a guy up who has one arm. And Newell's very tough. There's no doubt about it. Newell's very good. He's very tough. Now let's say you've never seen MMA before.

Flipping through the channels. You're like, oh, check it out.well's very good. He's very tough. Now, let's say you've never seen MMA before. You're flipping through the channels. You're like, oh, check it out. MMA. Hold up. This guy has one arm. Getting his ass whooped. What is this? Make a wish? You know what I'm saying? This isn't cool. And then again, if a guy with one arm beats you, that's even more of a mindfuck. Do you get beat by a guy who has one fucking arm?

I remember when in high school we would wrestle guys sometimes who were deaf or blind. It was always an interesting thing. Well, that's different. I had a buddy who thought he was going to be the next freaking wrestling all-star, and he got paired up with a girl, and she beat him. He was crying in the back. It's classic.

Well, deaf. Alan Deshani. I wrestled a couple guys who were deaf, and I wrestled a couple guys who were blind. Deaf's different. It was really interesting. Yeah, deaf, they can see you. They grab ahold of you. Yeah.

One arm, though? How does he defend head kicks? One arm's tough. It's a good question. It's a very good question. You know, there's a dude who's like the best pool player in the world who's deaf. Really? He plays pool.

He turns his hearing aid off. Wow. He doesn't hear shit. You can talk all the shit you want. Just goes into a zone and just fires balls. See, that's an advantage. That's an advantage. Somebody was talking about how how I remember somebody was saying

with wrestlers at least like they can't hear themselves breathe which has an effect death wrestlers yeah which I never thought about

has a good effect or a bad effect I guess a good effect in the terms of it doesn't get psychological they don't freak out you don't know your fatigue I don't know about that

you know I'd be onto something because when I listen to music and I do conditioning yes I was just going to say that when I listen to music and i do conditioning i was just gonna say when i listen to music i take it off i'm all dang i'm driving son i'm about to pass out put the music back on like i'm straight yeah but when you're running listen to music you don't realize how tired you are you're just sweating you feel good yeah i think that you get better cardio when you when you have the the music jam yeah matter of fact it's a clinical i've seen a clinical study where music does help your endurance, stuff like that.

It seems like it would. It seems like it would help you if you're doing strength and conditioning workouts. It seems like it would really put it in. I have the Tiger guys on a loop for me. It's the eye of the tiger, and I bench, I bench hard. You know, the eye of the tiger guy is the same guy that is the Bud Light guy.

Bud Light. You remember that? No, really? Yeah. He would sing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They would have these funny things. Yeah, they'd be like, to you, Bud Light guy.

To you, Mr. Couch Karaoke guy. Oh, yeah, that's him. Mr. Couch Karaoke guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a really nice guy, man. He was the guy from Survivor, the lead singer of Survivor. Wow. He was with us on the Maxim comedy tour when I did it with Charlie Murphy and John Heffron.

Super nice guy. Great voice, too. Yeah. Real quick, we got heavyweights up right now. Derek Lewis. Heavyweights. We were in the elevator with this guy. We were in the elevator, and he's a legit giant.

Yeah. Much bigger than you, Brennan. You were standing in front of him. He's got Knockout King tattooed on his chest. Well, there you go. It's kind of scary, really. He was just hanging out. He was hanging out. You were standing in front of him. He's got Knockout King tattooed on his chest. Well, there you go. It's kind of scary, really. He was just hanging out. He was hanging out.

We were like, what are you doing? He goes, I'm fighting tonight. That's scary. This girl's ass is scary. This Brazilian chick, good googly moogly. Really? They had International Fight Week, so they had the Brazilian girls walk up and the American girls walk up. And someone needs to scrape some DNA off those Brazilian girls and clone that shit.

Here, I'll do it. Clone. They can cross the desert without any water. He's loading up a heavy right hand from downtown. Whatever they have that grows asses like that in Brazil, please preserve it. Don't let it go out like the dodo bird. Sign me on it.

Don't let those asses go out like the dodo bird. It's a wonderful mix of Spanish and black. And everything. Sign me on. It's a wonderful. I'll tell you what it is. It's a wonderful. It's a mix of Spanish and black. And everything. Oh, yeah. Well, it's such a melting pot. Bro, they had all the ring card girls. I went into the green room, and I was literally like fans back there. I had to shut them down.

I'm like, just give me a second. I'm literally trying to focus over here. Oh, how about this? You know, I change, and I have to wear a suit. You know, I wear this custom tailored suit that the UFC got me. Your boy Goldie

wears a three-piece. Yeah. Guess where I change? I change in the same room where the girls change. So we're all buddies. Boner patrol. Boner patrol.

All friends here. Sucking professional as shit. That's true. You keep your eyes on the floor. Do you think I ever don't flex when I'm in there, though? First you're sucking it in. You know you do. You know you do you think I ever don't flex when I'm in there, though?

First you're sucking it in. You know you do. Do I ever let go of my gut and just stick it out like I'm pregnant? I was just in Mexico for three days walking around the beach with no shirt on. My stomach hurt. I was holding it in the whole time, doing everything I could. I got news for you, pal. And people let themselves go.

If you hold it in, it doesn't matter. Hey, bro. You don't know. Look what you're packing. I got a beautiful body. Derek Lewis. Derek Lewis has got... Yeah, we should talk about the fights here. Guto Innocente.

That's his name. I've never even heard of this guy, Guto. Me neither. I think I had no heavyweights. He's got some old school trauma. I was talking to Derek on the elevator. No idea who he is. I was like, what's up, bro?

How you doing? Because Brian wouldn't stop freaking fantasizing about his big-ass body. I was staring at him, and I go, are you a lawyer? So I said to him. He goes, I'm fighting tonight. I said, light heavyweight? He goes, heavyweight, bro. I said, oh, damn.

No, you said, what weight? I go, 135, Brendan. Good question. Like, literally a foot taller than you. I just didn't know him. What can you do? Foot taller than Brendan? No. He's bigger. He literally a foot taller than you. I just didn't know him. What can you do? Foot taller than Brendan? No.

He's bigger. He's a legit 6'5". No. Yes, he was. He might be. He had sandals on. A lot bigger than you. Yeah.

Thicker, for sure. Brian's kind of fucking with you. Oh, shit. Big shot. Brian's kind of fucking with you. Well, I just, you know, he needs to be careful of this guy. That's all I'm trying to say. You got to be careful of Derek Lewis.

He's trying to get me fired up. I'm protecting him. I'm protecting my friend from Derek Lewis. You know the last time he did this? You know the last time he did this on our podcast? He started talking about Frank Mir, and I went, and Frank Mir is one of my all-time favorite fighters. I love the guy. You challenged him? Love the guy. I didn't challenge him. You started

talking shit about him and me and him fighting, so I'm like, I'd love to fight Frank Mir. Sign me up, man. That'd be amazing. It'd be an honor. Sure enough, headlines come out, Schaub wants to fight Frank Mir, calls him out. It man. That'd be amazing. It'd be an honor. Sure enough, headlines come out. Schaub wants to fight Frank Mayer. Calls him out. It's all because of Callum talking shit, pushing your buttons. For sure.

Brendan, how tall are you? 6'4". You're taller. Then Derek Luce? Yes. Wow. Derek Luce is 6'3". So shut your mouth, Callum.

You look a lot taller than me. Did he not or did he? I didn't think so. I didn't really. You did to Callum because he's black. Listen, yeah, right? Every person we walked by Callum would be like, God, that guy did to Callum Because he's black Listen Yeah right Every person we walked by Callum be like

God that guy's tough I bet he's tough I went Brian If you're gonna do that all day We're at a We're at a Fucking UFC expo They all are to me

We're at a UFC I was about to freak out bro They all are to me Bro I was about to freak out We go in the green room There's Anthony Pettis in there Joey Benavidez You know

Chuck Liddell Brian goes Bro There are some tough guys around here. No. That's what he said. Oh, shit. He's out.

He's out. He's out. Oh, boy. Oh, beautiful. Beautiful job. In the transition, Derek Lewis cracked him with a right hand. What's he doing, though? Easy, Derek.

Easy. That's a terrible celebration. That was like a donkey. Oh, my God. That dude is gone. He just goes, what happened? What happened? Yeah.

Been there. Did he say belt? Yeah. Be careful is gone. He just goes, what happened? Yeah, been there. Did he say belt? Yeah. Be careful, Brendan. Did he say belt? Brendan, buy him lunch. Oh, look at this. He's doing the belt thing.

Yeah, you don't even want to be in the same room as Cain Velasquez, dude. I like the confidence, though. I was in the same room as Cain Velasquez. That's far stretch, my man. Phil Barone, when he knocked out Dave Manet, he's like, I'm the best ever. Best ever. I'm the best ever. He was so fired up.

I love it. That, by the way, is one of the best ever knockouts. True. He pinned him up to the cage with punches. Kept him up with punches. Manet was out cold, and Barone was literally keeping his body standing up with punches. Little story about Barone. I was even fine.

I was just a super fan, and Pride came to Vegas. I got all my money together to buy these bullshit tickets with my best friend, and they were taking pictures outside the Caesars Palace. Fedor, Croke, everyone's there. I got a boner the entire time. I'm so excited, man. I see Barone. My boy liked him, and I didn't want to take a picture with Barone,

but my boy goes, hey, man, get a picture. I'm like, all right. There's a line. I go up to Barone. I tap my story. I go, hey, man, get a picture. I'm like, all right. There's a line. I go up to Brony, I tap him on the shoulder, I go, hey, man, you mind if we get a pic? I'm not making this up. Turns around, gets in my face, goes, yo, bro, you should call me a prick. Like, absolutely not.

As for a picture, I said, pic. He goes, let's do it. And I still have the picture. He takes the picture, but he's staring off at, like, some girl's ass. He's not even looking at the camera. And that's the first time I ever met Phil Barone. Jeez, take it easy. Did you just call me a prick?

And I literally was like, no, no, stuttering and shit. No, sir. Weird. Phil Barone in the house, man. Beast. Cain Velasquez. There he is. Hmm. Size that guy up.

Oh, yeah. I was around him all week. They were in the same room. I was there. I was like, all right. What do you do when you're standing around that guy? What goes through your mind? I just want what he has.

You know, I'm just like, you want to be 100% honest? Yeah, 100%. Fuck that guy. That's what I do. When I walk down, I'm like, man, fuck that guy. Jesus Christ. Fuck that guy. That's what I do. When I walk down, I'm like, fuck that guy. I'm so glad you're so honest. Like when I went to the- Oh, boy.

What's he going to do? Fight me? Sure, let's do it. Yeah, I'm in. Here. More of the shit like fuck EA Sports. Fuck King Blast. Fuck that guy fuck EA Sports. Fuck King Blast. Fuck that guy.

Fuck everything. Fuck the Purge. I get in trouble with this stuff. He got in a little trouble. No, I love the Purge. I love the Purge. But you were just fucking around, man, you know? With the EA Sports stuff?

Yeah. Listen, man, my feelings got hurt because I'm not in the EA Sports game. So they asked me what I thought of it. So you lashed out. You lashed out. A fan asked me what I thought of it. And I give my, this is, that's how I feel, man. I was like, I think I should be in the game.

And so, you know, I'm not going to say what I re-said, but I said some bad things about not being in the game because my feelings were hurt. But then I went and said, hey, listen, Fire in the Kid fans, tweet EA Sports and tell them how much you love for me to be in the game. So, of course, headlines came out. Shop says blank, blank EA Sports. Did not go well. What happened again?

What happened again? Got a call from Uncle Dana. Got a call from Uncle Dana. Well, that's the problem with podcasts. You can take something that we say out of context over the course of a long show. Three-hour show. Fucking around and talking shit and having fun.

And you joke around. You're like, fuck this or fuck that. Bro, when I say fuck, when I walk, like, so there's a UFC party I went to at some club in who knows in Vegas, right? I walk in, there's the table, and it's Cain Velasquez. And when I say I walk in and say, fuck that guy, it's because I want what he has. I'm not being disrespectful.

Fuck that guy means I'd love to fight him. I want what he has, and I'll work just as hard as he does, if not harder. That's how I feel about it. Hopefully you're going to be, you'll see him one day across the ring and you can't have reverence for him. No, and hopefully one day he comes into a party and looks at me and says, man, fuck Brendan Chubb.

Because he wants to fight me. That's what you want. Yeah. Right. That's it. If it comes to Derek Lewis, though, just stay out of his way. It's just a thing where, you know, when you take things out of context. I know. Oh, I get so comfortable. Like, you guys are my boys.

We're in this room. It's all comfy. I got coffee. It's all warm. We're chilling. We're all friends. Got mics on. I don't know.

I forget where I'm at sometimes. Yeah, it is what it is, man. It's one of those things. I'm learning. You're having fun. I mean, to combine the two of them and the professionalism. Look at this. Boom! Boom! One shot from that guy. Boom! Boom! He's 6'8".

Oh, man. 6'3", Brian. He slouches when he's 6'3". When he's standing tall, look at that. He's got a t-shirt of himself. He said he's been looking at Kane for a while? A picture of everybody as Kane. That's what he's saying. So he's trying to set himself up for a title shot.

Boy, okay. Hold, hold. I like the dream, though. It's good to have a dream. Yeah, you know, it's good to have a dream. You might want to wait a little bit. There's a lot of guys kind of waiting in line and stuff. Might want to wait a little bit.

Oh, boy. Ouch. I would be surprised if Homeboy got knocked out because of the 205. Boom. Real small heavyweight. Boom. Boom. Damn.

Herb Dean. I damn Herb Dean gotta love Herb you gotta love this celebration for sure shows some emotion though kid hits hard gotta give him that no doubt about that this just in though every heavyweight hits hard

this just in if you don't it's a bad time for you. Any word on your head? Has there ever been a heavyweight that doesn't hit hard? A guy like a pillow-fighting heavyweight. What is Oscar De La Hoya doing? What's going on here? Let's hear this.

Crank this shit up. Crank this shit up. I just picture him in drag. Yeah. Is that weird? You can't not. I'm not mad at him for that, though. Is that weird? You can't not. I'm not mad at him for that, though. No, me neither.

I respect him more. A little more volume, Jamie. I respect him more. Well, I mean, even if he's not on pay-per-view, I have to watch BJ Penn. He's one of my favorites. Oh, how cute. Is he selling us on the fight right now? I think he is.

They must be in some sort of a thing. Huge fan. It's a combination of sweet science knockouts. I love it. Well, and we certainly appreciate your support. Now, Wednesday night, you're on Fox Sports 1. You've got a gold boy promotion. Oh, he's promoting.

Okay, okay. Boring. Hey, oh, Oscar, you like your thing? Sweet. Looks fantastic, by the way. It doesn't look bad. It doesn't look like he took any shots to the face at all, actually. Well, you know, he just got out of rehab, man.

Like, a lot of guys that have long boxing careers start getting depressed. Yep. And a lot of them start seeking, like, help with their dopamine levels

using the wrong shit, like alcohol and cocaine. Yep. That will 100% be me. I'm going to tell you that right now. 100%.

Oh, God. After our last few, I was like, I might need to check myself in the rehab. You'll be able to fight a 205 me I'm going to tell you guys that right now 100% After our last game I was like I might need to check myself You'll be able to fight a 205 I might need to go into rehab You felt it Are you kidding me? What? First of all him in drag you can't be mad He was hooking up with some dying piece

She was like listen the only way you can hit this If you put on these stockings and put some lipstick on Guess what? I'm putting on some stockings and some lipstick to hit that. You know what I'm saying? Well, she's Russian, too. A Russian stripper. Those bitches are mercenaries.

They get wild, man. Whatever. Mercenaries. Mercenaries. Mercenaries. Who was the guy who brought the girl up and she had her phone, her iPhone? She recorded the whole... What's the guy's name?

Recorded everything he was saying. Who's that? She kept it in her purse. Oh, God. He had a TV show. What did he say? Did he everything he was saying. Who's that? She kept it in her purse. Oh, God. He had a TV show. What did he say? Did he say crazy? Jerry Springer?

Just all kinds of nasty stuff when he was having sex with her. Canelo, man. God damn, this kid's good. Super good. Oh, beautiful. That Austin Trout fight. Look at that. Oh, my God.

Sweet. That fight was... I don't want to get into boxing, but yeah. The Austin Trout fight fight i don't know if you won that one that was tough man the trout fight that one right there that you just saw him yeah you see him drop him but yeah that was a close fight man and then all you do see the highlights because he's fighting floyd mayweather next they made it seem like he just destroyed trout he definitely did not i would have to go back and watch that again you have to see it yeah

and then floyd mayweather just put a clinic on him. He's too much, I think. Too much. He's too big. He's too big for that weight class. Canelo, as you think? Yeah. Well, to fight Floyd Mayweather at the weight they fought in.

You think he cuts too much or he's not fast enough? He's not fast enough for Floyd. Yeah, that's interesting, man. Floyd is fast as fuck. He's also just so smart. So smart. Intelligence. His defense is the best in the world Yeah there's nothing like it I've only seen him hit once

The only time I've ever seen him hurt Was Shane Mosley Yeah that's true My Donna tagged him a little bit They're rematching I don't care about that rematch I don't want to see it I'm not into it I definitely want to see the Floyd Mayweather Sugar Shane about that rematch. I don't want to see it. I don't want to see that rematch. They're rematching. You want to see it? Really? I'm not into it.

Well, I definitely want to see the Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Shane Mosley rematch. You know what I mean? Although I met Sugar Shane at SDK. Boy, a little punchy. A little punchy. That's what happens. That's what happens. A few years back, I ran into Terry Norris at a boxing event, and it was super depressing.

I hadn't seen him in forever. And all of a sudden I see, what's going on here with this guy? Oh, helping guys with injuries coming off of a war probably. He builds champions. Is this a show? It's all just strength and conditioning. Everybody has to have AstroTurf now. American Muscle.

That's what it is. A new series, American Muscle. I will 100% watch that. I will be into that for sure. You will not miss an episode. American Muscle. How crazy is that? I didn't say a word when that was there, and I was just super into it.

You guys probably won't watch that. I'll watch it for sure. They have shows now about guys making pools. My friend who came up to me with this show, I told you that I got an ear beating this weekend. This guy trying to tell me how can I make this show. I'm like, I'm the wrong guy to talk to. But he's like, do you think it could be a show?

I'm like, dude, there's a show about a guy that makes pools. That's it. So anything's possible. Not only that, all those shows, 100% bullshit. It's all scripted, right? Those Pawn Stars shows. Not Pawn Stars shows, the storage stores, they fill those lockers up. They set it all up. There's a guy who got fired from one of those shows, and he ratted them all out.

I'll tell you right now, if you tell me Team Mom's scripted, I'm going to freak out. I'm going to freak out. If bitches are getting pregnant just for the show, I'm about to freak out. I love that to freak out. I'm going to freak out. If bitches are getting pregnant just for the show, I'm about to freak out. I love that show, man. Well, I guarantee you there are some girls out there that are young and dumb who would get pregnant to be on TV. For sure. Hey, MTV, if you think that made people not want to have babies, it did the exact opposite. These girls are like, hold up.

I get more Instagram followers by getting pregnant than getting on MTV? 100% blow your load to me. Well, they're not doing it because they're trying to save the world. I mean, that, I hate when they, like, we're just trying to let everyone know

It's like teen pregnancy is a serious problem this day and age. Derek Lewis and Guto Inosante. How do you say it? Inso- Guto Inosante.

I was just looking at Daniel Cormier in a suit and there's no reason he should be as tough as he is. He just looks like the UPS guy. What are you talking about? Daniel Cormier does not look like the killer no reason he should be as tough as he is. He just looks like the UPS guy. What are you talking about? Daniel Cormier does not look like the killer. Please shut your mouth.

He doesn't. He's wide as a house. Yeah, but I mean, he's actually in a suit. He looks kind of like a thick guy. You're saying he's kind of small? He just doesn't look like, you know, he's so amazing and such a killer and has been so dominant. It's just not what you'd, when you look at him in a suit, you're like, well, he looks like a thick guy. I've seen a lot of guys like that. You're so weird. You're such a strained guy, bro. That's so weird, right? Yeah, you're so weird.

Because you'll see a little jiu-jitsu guy and be like, oh, I bet that guy would rip your dick off. Well, Conan. Conan looks like a monster. You know, do you have any idea what Cormier would do to Conan? Oh, I know all about it.

I know. Now, back then. I know. That's what's amazing. Three o'clock in the morning, drunk, standing outside a fucking pizza place.

And what is he, five, maybe ten? Five eleven, maybe? I don't know. I'll give him five eleven. Yeah. He's an animal.

You know what he is? He's a world-class athlete. That's what he is. He's a world-class athlete. And the mind of a world-class wrestler like that is something that is just... He never seems remotely nervous. It looks like he's going to buy milk. You know what? The only time the mind of a world-class wrestler like that is something that... He never seems remotely

nervous. It looks like he's going to buy milk. You know what? The only time I saw him nervous? Frank Mayer. Really? Really. And he even admitted it. He admitted it. He had UFC jitters when he fought Frank Mayer. He was like, dang. Yeah, he actually talked about that, the UFC jitters. UFC jitters are real, man. 100% it's real. Guess what?

He didn't have them with Dan fucking Henderson. Holy shit. He didn't have them. God. He ragdolled Henderson. Nobody's ragdolled. I thought it was an episode of Bully Beatdown. I was like, oh, man. 100% it's real. Guess what? He didn't have them with Dan fucking Henderson. Holy shit, he didn't have them. God. He ragdolled Henderson. Nobody's ragdolled. I thought it was an episode of Bully Beatdown. I was like, oh, cool. Bully Beatdown. Nope. UFC preview. You know what I'm saying? Pay-per-view. He just beat the shit. Why'd he pick them up and body slam them like that? Because he could. Don't do that to Dan Henderson.

You bastard. You killed Dan. You killed Dan. Why'd he do that to him, though? Dan was all tan and shit too And choked him unconscious Dan didn't even tap He went out like a man Brian said

Couldn't In better shape than anybody It was just so As tight as he got I looked I was grabbing his arms I was like Are you ready to fight

He's like I'm two weeks out I can't stand when guys Wear three piece suits Why On TV I don't know It's like

What are we doing You work at a funeral home? I'm sorry. They got me those jackets and the whole thing. They got me the collared shirts that are form-fitted and the pants that are fitted to my legs and all that shit. And the jacket, I wore it a couple times, and I'm like, this is just too goofy. It's just not you, huh? I can't do it.

You want to put your jacket on for this interview? Put your jacket on for this program? Is it going to make it better if I have a jacket on? This is ridiculous. The three-piece suit is too formal, man. It's too much for me. Behind me, people in their underwear are about to shin kick each other in the face. You want me to wear a jacket like I'm selling insurance.

I don't get it, man. I don't get it. It's weird. It's too weird. It's a weird thing. Our cultural desires to all have the same fucking outfits on if we're being serious or classy or doing business. Formality. I have a suit on, so listen to what I'm saying.

I know what I'm saying. Clearly, I'm prepared for no nonsense. Apparently, if I have a V-neck on, I'm playing grab ass. Standards? Well, guess what? I'm playing grab ass all the time then. Iron Mike Productions? Yep. Oh, my God. Standards? Well, guess what? I'm playing grab ass all the time then. Iron Mike Productions? Yep.

Oh, my God. Mike Tyson has his own production? Oh, my God. Mike Tyson must be bored as shit. He's doing it. It's Wednesday and Thursday. Wow. Iron Mike Productions.

Interesting, man. Interesting. Did you see his show when he was doing Broadway stuff? No, I never saw it. Oh, it was good. I heard it was awesome. It was awesome. Is he done with it?

Did he stop doing it? I think so, because he's doing that bullshit promotion thing now. Oh, the fights? Yeah, I bet so. I bet he's done. Well, he. Is he done with it? Did he stop doing it? I think so, because he's doing that bullshit promotion thing now. Oh, the fights? Yeah, I bet so. I bet he's done. Well, he's only got so many stories, I guess. You know, I mean, it's one of those things like, did you guys remember Defending the Caveman?

Yes. Do you remember that? Yeah. It was essentially like a hack stand-up comedy act. And it was like, you know. He's made so much money on that. But yeah, not only did he make so much money on it, Michael Chiklis, that guy from The Shield, he actually performed it for a while.

He was selling it so other guys could perform it. Like he had this act and guys would do it. It was like he was selling it as a theater show. But it was essentially like kind of a hacky stand-up comedy act. It's still performed everywhere. I've never heard of it. It's still making a fortune. It's so weird. It's the difference between men and women. Yeah. It's defending performed everywhere. I've never heard of it. It's still making a fortune. It's so weird.

It's the difference between men and women. Yeah. It's defending the kids. Men are like this and women are like that. But it's nothing groundbreaking. It's like, you know,

I mean, I guess it's probably well done if people enjoy it. I saw it on Broadway, actually. What did you think about it? I thought that it was well written. I didn't think

he was a performer. He wasn't. I saw the original guy who wrote it do it. And so then now he just licensed it out to other actors. To scrubs? Yeah, but it's actually back then.

They have to have it for material? He basically draws the distinction between hunters and gatherers. And the difference is when men go to shop, for example, they're linear. They want to go get their jeans. They're going to find it and kill it and take the jeans and leave. Women, when they go shop, they want to touch things, smell it. They go through it. They're gathering. Well, then I'm a chick because I take forever. There want to touch things, smell it. They go through it. They're gathering.

Well, then I'm a chick because I take forever. There's a lot of truth to it. Yes, you are. You have a lot of feminine energy, bro. I like my fashion, man. I don't like to rush and fucking grab jeans from Target. Why'd you look at my groin? It's in my face.

There you go. You like my Japanese denim, huh? Jeans from Target. These are Japanese denim. These are not from Target. I buy 90% of my clothes online. Really? Yeah.

How's it fit? Because you're not a small dude. You have weird dimensions. I feel... You do. You have weird dimensions. Well, the reason I say weird dimensions... Like a bridge troll.

No, because you're like thick. You know what I'm saying? You're in shape. Yeah, I buy... So you can't buy just like regular sweatpants from freaking Sam's Club. Yeah, I buy things that are like... Certain brands that I can buy, like Lucky Jeans. I can buy Lucky Jeans, but I have to buy the waist too big.

I have a 32-inch waist, so I buy a 33 or 34-inch waist so they fit my legs. A lot of snore on the planet, by the way. How's your snoring going? It's not bad. No? It's pretty good. I couldn't sleep. Went deer hunting.

Didn't sleep for four days. Because he was snoring. It would start about 2 in the morning, just. I'm a little bit of a snorer myself. I'm a little bit of a snorer myself. It's a neck thing. I would do this to you. I go, eh, eh.

I go, eh, eh, eh. And you go. And stop for a second. Then you go. By the way, I got a new mouthpiece. You don't have to worry about that anymore. Really? Yeah.

So we can cuddle now. I got a new mouthpiece. It's amazing. Fantastic. I got a mouthpiece that presses my tongue down and keeps my tongue from falling back in my mouth. So you don't snore? Yeah, that's what it is. It's uncomfortable

at first. It feels like you're going to throw up like someone's trying to put their dick down your mouth. Trying to deep throat your mouth? My father's got really bad sleep apnea. He's got to have a mask and everything. Yeah, but that's what I'm trying to avoid doing. Yeah. And then there's also A surgery that you can get Where they take out

Your tonsils and your adenoids My friend did it Yeah Or you just keep snoring And you go on with life Right Yeah but you know what Dudes say that

Is long recovery They also say that About the fucking nose thing The deviated septum I had it done Kept me from doing it For a long time I had it done

It was easy Yeah It was great I mean my nose Was a little sensitive But I was rolling Six weeks later And I was breathing great It was great. I mean, my nose was a little sensitive, but I was rolling six weeks later, and I was breathing great. Yep.

Do you still breathe great? Because my surgery... Ah. That's pretty good. Oh, it's so good. Dude, my whole life I had a whack nose. I fell down a flight of stairs. My surgery wasn't successful.

Well, you probably went back to the gym like a week later and started getting punched in the face. You just said you went back a week later. Rolling. I was rolling. No punches. You fell down the stairs and broke your nose. When I was five. Yeah. When I was five years old, smashed my nose, shattered it. Cement stare. And from then on, it was useless. And then my whole life was wrestling, martial arts. I got

hit in the face who knows how many times. I know I broke my nose at least probably 10, a dozen times, at least. And then there's all this scar tissue build up and then they take your turbinates they they trim your turbinates down they my nose actually got wider after the surgery because when he when he cut me open this guy was a real wizard he retired dr feinstein and uh in uh encino and he put these like these uh form these uh these things these plastic splints and shoved it he's like what is your main concern and I explained you know like I do martial arts and stuff and I can't breathe out of my nose and all this different jazz and he's like you know we're gonna open it wide we're gonna really get in there we're gonna trim down that what's called

the turbinates all these different things we're to spread it out. So he cut me open and took out all this scar tissue. I mean, he showed it to me. He had like a plate of all the shit that he pulled out of my nose. Oh, it was incredible. And then he stuffed these plastic things in that sort of wedged my nose open and then stuffed these foam inserts in place.

I had the same thing, but my nose collapsed and he had to take a piece of cartilage and put it under my nose. And this is, I am not kidding. Where'd you get the cartilage? Where'd they cut it out? I don't know. He had to put an extra piece.

And I'm telling you. What do you mean you don't know? It had to be from your body. For two weeks, my nose, look, my nose, I look like a pig. Hold on. No, Brian had a nose job. Brian had a nose job. Brian, but they don't take cartilage from other people's body and put it into your body.

No, no, from my, must have taken it from my nose, but he said, I had to take a piece of cartilage and put it under your nose because it collapsed. They don't take cartilage from your nose and put it in your nose. That doesn't make sense.

I'm going to bail Brian out on this one. So they just showed the, so they just showed the ultimate fighter where the hometown, where they go to their hometown, show them. When I, this is funny.

When I was, when I was on. You guys just passing over my nose. Well, you for sure made that up. I'm doing a solid here. I'm doing a solid here. No, I had, I was on you guys just passing over my nose you for sure made that up something's clearly made up I'm doing a saw here I'm doing a saw here

I literally had to have my nose collapsed and they had to put it under and so my nose was up like this as Patty for two weeks and I said is my nose going to come back

to normal and he said it'll come back well they gave you a dick nose which it did and my nose was a little more turned up than it was

by the way it used to have a nice bend to my nose what year was more turned up than it was, by the way. It used to have a nice bend to my nose. What year was this? 1980? No, that was 1990. 1989. That's a number.

Another summer. 98, I think. 98. Yeah. It's a great operation, though, if you get it done correctly and it takes. Mine didn't take. So they showed the Ultimate Fighter where they go hometown. This is when I was the Ultimate Fighter.

This is how naive and stupid I was. This is how cocky I was back then. So I had four fights made all the way to the finale on ultimate fighter. They come to your hometown, you're training, get ready for the fight. And they go into like your, you know, your background, your life, stuff like that. And my thing on there, I was talking about how Roy Nelson, who was a former world champion at all these fights, has never fought anybody like me. And that was my comment. I'm like, don't worry. He's never fought anyone like me. And everyone on mine was like, huh?

He fought Andrei Orlovsky. He fought freaking everybody. I just didn't take that into account, man. Back in the day. I was just talking shit on mine, yeah. Well, you talk shit, but I love the fact that you admit that you talk shit. Yeah, what can you do, man? You got to keep it real.

You got to keep it real. At least you get back in there and fight. You're honest about the shit talk. Yeah. It is important. It's important if you're going to talk shit, to be honest about it. Have you seen this? This is The Strain.

This is Guillermo del Toro. It was a really good book for like three quarters of the way in, and then it became shit. I wonder what they're going to do. But apparently the whole time they were making the book for a miniseries. They were designing it as a miniseries. It's about vampires. I hope they do a good job.

Anything with vampires, I watch. Me too. Vampires or zombies, but I prefer to be a vampire if I had to pick one. I don't know if you guys ever think about that. I love me a monster movie. Me too, man. Love them. Farmers only.

This is all for dudes trying to date chicks. But you have to be a farmer? Can I get on there even though I'm not a farmer and just clean house with these farmer bitches? Just like, listen, girl, I know you're looking for a farmer. Just send her dick pics From Marina Del Rey Just on the ocean of the dick You ain't no farmer

I'm farming sand bitch Farming sand Farming sand and growing loads Like is there going to be repercussions Because I'm not a farmer I'm trying to slang all these bitches On farmers only No if you're into dating farmers

You know like maybe the girls Are not just into farmers They're into guys who like farmer girls But is there like one farmer girl Who's just a beast on there And none of these shitty farmers Can get to her Then I create a profile

And they hate me Maybe And then they come find me Yeah there's like some Misha Tate looking farmer shitty farmers can get to her, then I create a profile and they hate me. Maybe. And then they come find me. Yeah, there's like some Misha Tate-looking farmer out there wearing mini skirts and high heels, pushing the big ass. Just on a horse. Just blow out ass on a horse.

Yeah, some Jessica Biel-looking farmer bitch. Yeah, she's out there. I'm going to sign up for that one. You think so? I do. Really? Sure, man. 100% there's someone like that

out there, right? I mean, you do stand about in Minnesota and places like that. There's some. Jessica Alberson. Picking apples. Just innocent. Just has no idea what's going on. Looks over her shoulder at you. It's like, oh, hi, Brendan. She's been drinking raw milk and eating apples all day. You're just trying to be nice.

Trying to be nice the whole time. Okay, so Eddie Gordon, who is Matt Serra's guy, and he's fighting out of Ray Longo's camp. Matt Serra, Ray Longo. And then Diego Lima, who's Douglas Lima, who's the Bellator champion. Bad motherfucker. That's his brother. Diego Lima had some fucking good fights in the house. the house. Three rounds in a UFC. Three rounds. I flew in with Bruce Buffer. We had some interesting conversations about dating. It was fun. It was fun. Was it really? It's only a 40 minute fight. How many times did you talk about pussy in 40 minutes Ah For 40 minutes It was Bruce And this stuff It was interesting

Have you ever seen the cover Of Fighters Magazine Fighters only magazine With Bruce No Bruce with Like lipstick All over his face

Like kisses all over his face And two hot broads with him Sick Greatest cover ever He's got two like Champagne bottles with him Jamie pull that shit up Pull that shit up

Living the life Yeah it's It's quite redonkulous. Yves Levine. Yves Levine. So you know someone is definitely in fucked up if they get knocked down. Because he does not jump in early. No.

Whenever Yves Levine comes into your back room, he's like, listen, I'll be your ref. You're like, damn, I better be on it this fight. I'm about to get my ass whooped if he's not. He stopped the Alexis Davis fight the right time when Ronda had her out. I agree 100%. Out. All joking aside, I'm just to get my ass whooped if he's done. He stopped the Alexis Davis fight at the right time when Ronda had her out. I agree 100%. Out. All joking aside, I'm just making a joke. He's a great referee.

He's a very good referee. Look at this. There's Bruce. Two different weight classes. Look at him. He's got the glass. Look, the girl's kissing him. He's got the two glasses.

Look at that. Oh, I love it, man. Bruce just doing the dance. Living the La Vida Loca. That's Cub Swanson. That's Cub Swanson. If you scroll up, you can see what it says about Bruce Buffer. Scroll down La Vida Loca. That's Cub Swanson. That's Cub Swanson. If you scroll up, you can see what it says about Bruce Buffer. Scroll down.

Scroll down, yeah. Buffer's popping bottles and kissing models. The secret Playboy lifestyle. Damn. And it's like a tell all? Of course. All. All.

Like really all. He doesn't hold anything back. I love it. He told me, Brendan, why don't you get down to Malibu and we'll find some bitches. All right. That's exactly what he said. That's a strange choice of words. I love it.

Eddie Gordon and Diego Lima. Let's get to this because these are two good fighters. Gordon's a banger, man. He's tough as shit. Looks like Lima's a lot taller. Oh, he's tall. He's very tall. Oh, Gordon cracked him.

Whoa. Damn, he's throwing. Oh. I'm assuming he has. Oh, he's tall. He's very tall. Oh, Gordon cracked him. Whoa. Damn, he's throwing. Oh. I'm assuming he has. Oh, hammer fist. This kid is bringing it, son. I'm assuming he has good jujitsu training with Matt Senn. Oh, he cracked him with that uppercut.

Beautiful uppercut. That's behind there. Oh, he's. Lima's in big trouble. Big trouble. Boom. Boom. Boom.

Boom. Oh, he's out. They should stop it. You are so right about Liev Levine. He's out cold. So right. Look at that. Damn, what a performance by Eddie Gordon.

Man, that kid can cry. I love that uppercut through under the armpit from the side. You can't see it. It's so hard to get out of the way of it. Such a nasty punch. Especially when you're against the cage. That's how Fador got knocked out by, I mean, that's how Fedor got knocked out by Henderson. Man.

Damn. That kid brought it. It's been brought. Strong fella. Yeah, he brought it, planted it, built the forest with it, cut the forest down, made houses with it. He's 185 pounds, by the way. Now he's on Farmers.com. What's he weigh right now walking around?

220? It's interesting. I don't know. I mean, come on, Brian. He's definitely got a little bit of fat on his body. Yeah, he's also got a lot of muscle on his Brian. He's definitely got a little bit of fat on his body. Yeah, he's got a lot of muscle on his body. A little bit of jiggling going on there. Look at that.

Matt Serra, very excited. Is that Weidman over there? Weidman. His name's Weidman, motherfucker. He's the champ of the world. How dare you? How good did he look? Yeah, he looked awesome.

No one fucks up Machida like that. Look at that. Boom, with that right hand. I see Evan with a beard in the back. Boom. Is that a lie? Is that him? that. Look at that. Boom. With that right hand. I see Evan the Beard in the back. Boom. Is that a lie? Is that him? Yeah.

Boom. Check this out. Boom. Oh, he fakes it. Oh, Jesus. That he is. Now, is he hitting on the back? Is he hitting the back of the head there?

Yeah, but if it's in transition, you're fine. Where is he hitting the back of the head? Boom. You'll see he hits him in the back of the head. Yeah. Right there. Boom. Oh, yeah.

Well, that was kind of behind the ear. Yeah. In transition, you're good, though. It doesn't matter. They tell you that, too. They tell you that in transition. In the back, they go, if you're in transition, you turn your head and you get hit in the back of the head.

That's not you. Boom. Boom. These are legal. Boom. He's out here. He's out here. Boom.

Now he's out. Boom. Boom. Boom. So he took about four that he probably shouldn't have. No, I think it was perfect. Perfect. It was perfect stoppage.

His arm went limp way before that, though. You know what's kind of crazy when it comes to back of the head? Those head kicks. When you think about a head kick, you're wrapping around. You're completely targeting the back of the head. The thing is, though, like they said, it's in transition. There's nothing you can really do. Yeah.

And like I said, they tell you in the back. They're like, listen, man, if it's in transition, you're moving it, it hits you in the back of the head. It's on you. Weidman and Anthony Bourdain. Oh, I love Anthony Bourdain. Do you watch that show? Yeah.

Place on, I watch it too. Whoa, what is this? Is he shooting a lion? This is Hercules, dude. That's the Rock is Hercules. Yes, he is. 100% natural. 45 years old.

Never done a steroid in his life. No, never, man. He's not 45. How old is he? 35, I think. Shut the fuck up. The Rock? The Rock? Who's making shit up? He's not 45. How old is he? 35, I think. Shut the fuck up. The Rock? The Rock?

Who's making shit up? He's not 35. He is every bit of 40-something. No. No, no, no. You're wrong. Why do you say you're wrong when you don't know? First of all, you said he's 22.

Brian, he's 42. Ah, damn it. Is he? It's insane. He's 42. The thing is, I don't even need to check. I don't need to check Yeah you're always wrong

I'm always wrong Pretty much always wrong 90 You know give or take I meant 35 Come on guys 7 years What are we fucking

Splitting hairs You know You guys are all like Accurate So boring Whatever I just like being What is the word

Incendiary Have you ever ridden a motorcycle man Yes a long time ago No never Do you want to Really really bad Fuck yeah right I'm gonna buy one man

I'm afraid of them See those god damn commercials It looks like so much fun I know so dangerous though right If I just rode my bike through Venice And I was scared as shit Super dangerous I was on the road

It's more dangerous Cause you can't move You can't like really To get out Away from shit. But they say your chances of crashing on your bike is like 99% the first year you buy one. Not debt. Yeah, motorcycle.

Every biker will tell you it's a matter of time. You're going to crash. Yeah, it's just how bad is it. I saw a guy die. Did you? I just don't want to do it. I saw a guy. It was really weird.

He slid off his bike and hit a curb and hit his head. That was it. You saw it? Yep. Whoa. Would you do hit a curb and hit his head. That was it. You saw it? Yep. Whoa. What'd you do? Anything? Sucked his dick while he was dead.

Jacked him off. Stopped. Stopped. I got out, jacked him off, jumped back in my car. I got out, fucked him, came in his ass. Took his watch. Drove home with his wallet in my pocket. There it is.

That was bad news. Gordon's a beast, man. I know how this guy on the left feels right now Losing the Ultimate Fighter You think your life is over I started applying at Monsters.com Put a resume on after the Ultimate Fighter On Monsters.com

What's Monsters.com? It's where everyone It's a job search place Where you upload your resume And people try to find you for a job Oh, man I'm making that up I didn't do that

But I felt like doing it Look at this. Very exciting. Not mad at the ring card, girl. I didn't notice. That guy's got a future. He's got a future. They both do.

Yeah. You're right. Diego Lima's got a future, too. What is that? With Diego Lima now, what does his contract say? He still fights in the UFC? Yes. He'll get one more shot.

You lose that one, you're done. Really? Scarcest fight I've ever had. Lose to Roy Nelson. Then they tell me, oh, we want you to fight in your hometown. No pressure. Hometown. I think four months later.

Who'd you fight? Chase Gormley. And beat the brakes off him in 37 seconds. 37 seconds in front of the home crowd. Who was your next? I just was throwing like this. I was so nervous. I had no idea what I was doing.

I was so nervous, man. Most nervous I've ever been because I thought if I lost that, I wouldn't have a career. It's kind of true. All that work. Yeah, it is kind of true. Who's that one the UFC is? Oh, we're good, man. Has anybody ever gone from the UFC, gotten true. Who's that one the UFC is? Oh, we're good, man. Has anybody ever

gone from the UFC, gotten cut, came back? From the Ultimate Fighter? Yeah. Came back and made a run at the title. So far. Nobody, right? I can't think of anyone. No. Who's like the best guy that's been cut and looks sensational in other

organizations? Probably Anthony Johnson. Well, at one point, Nate Marquardt, who at Strikeforce won, beat Tyron Woodley. Yeah, but he was in Strikeforce. Still in the Zufa banner. That's true. Yeah, because the Zufa owned him at the time and gave him the title shot. Man, that's a good question.

Anthony Johnson got cut, but that was mostly a weight issue thing. That was a weight issue. Man, I don't... But goddamn, did he was mostly a weight issue thing. It was a weight issue. But goddamn, did he look good. Think about it. When you get cut from the UFC and you move on, especially a young guy, I'm trying to think who does well. Melvin Gillard just won, but that's really his first one. Did Gillard win? He did win.

He missed weight, though, again. He did again? Yes. It's frustrating. Oh, my God. Do you not get any purse when that happens? No, you lose 20% of it. The other guy gets 20%.

Good on that, Sarah. It's so interesting to see different guys and their different weight-cutting strategies. Some guys believe in drinking distilled water, and some guys say you shouldn't drink distilled water. They're trying to rid their body of electrolytes so it's easy to look at this boom gordon with the big right hand and power the um the idea behind it is that you rid your body of all these electrolytes keep pumping it with fluids and then the fluids just flush out of your system quicker and then you can replenish them quicker.

You know, I've got to have Dolce on and talk to him about that shit. Yeah, I'd say whatever Dolce's doing, probably stick to that, everybody. Yeah. Yeah, Tiago Alves never looked better in his last fight. That's another thing. A lot of guys are coming in. They're like real light, like the week of. Like Machida. Well, Machida walked around at 203 pounds mm-hmm

it when he's champ when he's competing at 205 is 203 pounds yeah tough form that's just his natural weight yeah that's just what he does you know he's thinking going to 170 no yep that's what he said in the interview the way the week of the fight they said he can go to 170 I was asking them I was in the locker room with or the training room yeah them, yeah. See, that's the thing. People ask me about cutting to 205 all the time. When you go down

a weight class, everyone's skills get better and everyone's way faster. So sometimes it like, so my advantage at heavyweight is cardio, speed, right? When you go down 205,

now it's almost even. It doesn't become your advantage really, I don't think. Right. This comes a point of diminishing returns, right? Yes.

Where it hits the... There was you. Yeah. You checked me out on TV. You checked me out on UFC Now. Talking. What? Looks like he's wearing eyeliner, but he's just got that natural sort of dark thing on.

Just a black eye all the time. Just sexy. Just a pure black eye. Just smoldering. Smoldering is right. Just constantly smoldering. A little cutie on UFC Now. Here it is.

Here's your show again. American muscle. American muscle. American muscle. Look at me. I'm picking up weights, and I'm doing it on some fake grass. Fake grass. Everybody has to have fake grass. He builds champions from the inside out.

Dun, dun, dun, dun. It looked like that was Rashad Evans. Yeah. All these guys are running. Your strength coach had me. Lauren Lando? Yeah, invited me to come run with the NFL. Did you do it?

No, I did not. You're a pussy. I had to get on a plane to go to Mexico. I doubt that. Didn't want to get humiliated. Didn't want to get humiliated, by the way. I would have come up with an excuse anyway. Because guess what?

I don't want to have to try to run against the Denver Broncos. No, you're not running against them. You're just jumping their workout. No, no, no. In my mind. The mind of Brian Callen. Yeah, he's running. Then definitely don't show up. Definitely don't show up. But their dicks are

slapping their faces as they run by. Definitely don't show up then. I thought you were going as a fanboy. Even if I was, it doesn't make me feel good about myself. How many times a week are you working out, Brian? You talk a lot about working out. Twice a day. I don't know if you know that.

Quite honestly. Be real. I do something almost every day. Really? Yeah. You do something almost every day. You know what? Can you not like...

Why? Really? You made up a nose job. I mean, Jesus. So it's a little tough. I didn't make up a nose job. I built out, but I had to go back to it. You made it up, you had a nose job.

That'd be a weird thing to make up, wouldn't it? I know, but you definitely made up the part about them taking cartilage out of your nose and putting it in your nose. Your details were super sketchy. Here's what they did. They took cartilage. They took cartilage and they put it under right here. Look, I'm pointing.

That never happened. Brian, here's the problem. I think you're confused. If you're a doctor, please write in about how that happened. They take a plastic splint and they do put it right there where you're talking about. They did that to me too. But it's plastic. It's not cartilage.

That's exactly what he said. He said, when you were under for a long time, your nose collapsed. A long time. Days. I was under for days. He said your nose collapsed and he said, and I had to take, I had to add a piece of cartilage right under here. That's what he's calling his dick.

Where did they get it from? Probably from the inside. I have spare cartilage. I don't know. I'm not a doctor, guys. I think this is a long time ago. We bailed you out and we're back on it. I tried bailing you out. This is 16 years ago.

Things get real shady when you're talking about something like that. Guys, I'm going to stick to my guns here. I had cartilage in my nose. I don't really have a dog in my race. In Brian's defense, he is at the boxing gym all the time. He's there a lot. I'll give him that. I believe that. Boxing a lot.

I like working out. Yeah, it's good for you. You need it. I feel better. If I don't want to work out, I get a little crazy. Yeah. Your boy, Lauren, took me through a workout for an hour in that Denver altitude, and I didn't lift a lot of weights. Did he get you?

Let me tell you something. I'm having trouble walking around right now. Oh, this is supposed to be a good fight. This happened earlier. Adriano Martins. Homeboy kicks him in the nuts. Does he? Martins is the guy that Donald Cerrone KO'd.

He's a Jiu-Jitsu champion. Yeah. He's a Jiu-Jitsu champion. With a bad head kick. Cerrone had a McNasty head kick. Yeah, it was a shin to the neck. Damn! These guys look like they're just walking in. Bang, bang, bang. Not a lot of head movement. Not a lot of technique. Just

straight forward. Muscular guys are just walking in. Well, the dude has good striking and good jiu jitsu too really good jiu jitsu yeah definitely better definitely better the guy with the beard

or the guy who are you talking about the guy without the beard Martins he's the guy that Cerrone KO'd in his last fight but he's

his Muay Thai is very good too man ooh there's so many good fighters now. It's just such a crazy time for the sport. Crazy. It's amazing.

I mean, you're seeing these guys in other organizations. You're seeing these guys in other shows. You're seeing every week, like every time there's a new card, there's some new guy who's coming up. You know what was weird at the UFC Expo? Obviously, it's the UFC Expo, so everyone's there looking for UFC fighters. I can't walk through, right? It's a beast.

You have to have security. Most UFC fighters do. If you're a popular fighter, you can't walk through. Chandler from Bellator. I saw him. I'm like, oh, shit, there's Chandler. I've never seen him. There's Chandler.

Not one person stopped him. Could walk straight through. That's the difference. Bellator's a big difference. Oh, you want to go to Bellator? Good luck. Yeah. Good luck.

No sponsors. No one knows who you are. People might kind of watch, but not really unless you're Rampage Jackson. For now, do you think that if Bellator sticks around and changes its goofy fucking name? I think, look, they're on Spike TV. Oh, nice elbow straight down the middle. And I think the biggest move they've ever made, Hirons got Coker. Oh, yeah, that is nice. They've got to get some young talent, though, man.

You can't be – I mean, I love Rampage, but you need to build your own. You can't have ex-UFC guys. Right, but that was how they built that pay-per-view. They sold 100,000 pay-per-views. The reason why they did it is because of Tito Ortiz and because of Rampage. I agree. Yeah, that's great. Oh, beautiful straight great. Oh!

Beautiful straight left. Oh, and a kick to the saccarone. Ouch. Down. Dick shot. Down. Dick shot. That was another thing that I talked to Duke Rufus about, and De La Grata says the same thing.

What? He said, you got to wear a tie cup. Those steel tie cups. Steel cup. Oh, your boy sent me one. They go through. I got a diamond cup. Diamond cup.

Yeah, it was dope. Loved it. Great, right? Loved it, yeah. Protect. I got a diamond cup. Diamond cup. Yeah, it was dope. Loved it. Great, right? Loved it, yeah. Protects this gold. It really protects you? Protects this dime piece of a dick I got. Dime piece.

Only the best for this thing. But this is what I was going to tell you. What De La Grata said and what Duke Rufus said is like the Thai cups are steel. And so when someone kicks you, it hurts their foot. That makes sense. Yeah, and it just like completely snugs up against your junk. So it can't go anywhere. I might just wear one anyway.

It's like snuffleupagus in a ski mask. Yeah, I mean, you're tying it in place. You said it feels uncomfortable and it wedges you. You tie it in place? Yeah, you tie it like a wedge. It goes up your ass like a G-string. Yeah. But after the fight is over, first of all,

the area near your butthole must smell awful right and just ring but you don't have you can wear it to the mall get ready to watch this get ready to watch this i'm telling you guys you want to see this you don't want to see this definitely he goes you kick me in the nuts you kick me in the nuts all right boom oh no oh man levine was on that one. Beautiful right hand. Very nice. Very nice. Guys get upset when you kick them in the nuts. He's got a pretty decent back. That's a good call there, Brennan.

Good back structure there. He called it. What happened earlier today, Brian? Oh. Yeah. I read on Twitter what happened. I know. I'm not that smart.

I was just saying. Yeah. Did you remember the part where I said, I heard this was a good fight? And I said, yeah, so he gets kicked in the nuts. Not a close listener, guys. Not when it's not about you. I'm not all about details. If we're talking about you, you'd be about the details.

Yeah, I get very cute in. I get very cute in. In Brian's world, he had a nose job in The Rock's 25 years old. Whoa. It wasn't a nose job. it was a deviated set up and there's a difference man I can't tell you when I told you buzz we're gonna do this but we're that beautiful right hook oh my goodness oh yeah that's all they said be nice to count do you understand Brian counts like my brother you fucking

idiots people listening yeah he thought the rock was 24 years old and by the way he deserves it of course deserves every bit each other. Yeah. He thought The Rock was 24 years old. And by the way, he deserves it. Of course. He deserves everything he gets. He didn't have cartilage put in his fucking nose. We all know that. We're going to let it go. I'll call the doctor right now, you guys.

Probably really isn't a black belt in Taekwondo, but it's okay. It's okay. Shh. Keep it down. Keep it down. Keep it down. Keep it down. Details.

Well, who's this fucking, what's his face? Is he a wrestler or what? Oh, Channing Tatum. Channing Tatum. Hung with him in Vegas. Hung with him in Vegas. Hung with him in Vegas one weekend. Oh my goodness.

This is that movie about that fucking crazy asshole. This is that movie about Schultz. Yes. Oh boy. Dave Schultz and Mark Schultz about that.

He got shot by that guy who was a patron. Yeah, what the fuck was his name? Damn, it looked good. That crazy guy. His name was supposed to be a good movie.

He was a big mogul, or came from a family. God damn it. Oh, man. What the hell was his name? Mayor Schultz's guy. I can't remember. Let's see. It's not about me.

I'll follow it up right here. It was killed by DuPont. DuPont. John DuPont. John DuPont, right. Really rich guy who liked to wrestle with people. Yeah. And Steve Carell is playing DuPont. DuPont. John DuPont. John DuPont, right. Really rich guy who liked to wrestle with people. Yeah. And Steve Carell is playing DuPont.

Wow. I love it. That'll be a good movie. And apparently he knocks him out of a fucking park. Really? Yeah, by the way, Channing Tatum. Dime piece. You need to make your body look way better if you want to play Mark Schultz, bitch.

How about that? He's a little chunky in 22 Jump Street. Smooth and chubby. It's because he's hanging out with Joe, what's his name? Jonah Hill. Jonah Hill's fat ass. He's a guy who looked great

compared to Jonah Hill. Yeah, well he's like, yeah, I still kind of have it. But if you notice in 22 Jump Street, and this kind of stuff I know is because I'm super vain, he had his shirt on the entire time.

The other one, he would take his shirt off and everything. From what I saw in that preview, he looked all right. Well, yes, I mean, in my opinion, that's like offensive to me because if you've ever seen what Mark Schult right. Well, yes. I mean, in my opinion, that's offensive to me.

Because if you've ever seen what Mark Schultz looks like, Mark Schultz, the wrestler, is a fucking animal. A beast. Well, it'd be like The Rock playing Hercules, and it's like a smooth build. That fool is jacked to play Hercules. You've got to be. He's pretty jacked. Well, Schultz, when he was in his prime, too, he used to grab guys. He used to get guys in illegal moves.

He'd use Kimuras, and he would hit a Kimura and just rip guys' shoulders off while he was taking them down. Mangled guys. I mean, he was a fucking animal. I don't know the story of that movie, but I'll for sure buy a ticket to that. It's a fascinating story because these guys were all broke, and DuPont would pay these guys to come to his compound. And wrestle. He built this wrestling thing and wrestle with them and roll around with them and get all sweaty and gay with them. Wait, are you being for reals?

Yes. You get gay? Oh, he's gay? Mm-hmm. Was he gay? Are we being funny or not? No, no, I'm not being funny at all. It's totally true.

And he wound up killing Dave Schultz, who was a great wrestler. Don't want to see the movie now. I mean, he just told me the whole plot. Am I right? Well, it's based on a real story, bro. It's based on some shit. Yeah, man. No, I'm just kidding.

It's more to the movie. The movie's different. In the movie, he becomes a werewolf. Now I'll buy it. Exactly. I'll tell you what. I saw that new horror movie with... Does anyone like scary movies here or no?

No? Yeah, I love scary movies. The new one with Eric Bana. You know what I'm talking about? What is it? What's it called? It just came out last week. You know what I'm talking about or no?

What is it? The cop. Yeah, he's a cop and it's supposed to be a true story. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. God, it was scary as shit. What's the scariest movie for you? Scariest movie of all time?

The Conjuring. The Conjuring. Oh, what did you say? The Exorcist? Yeah, I am. God damn it. Yeah, I am going to say The Exorcist. This is how I know you're all of 60 years old. Yeah, whatever. That movie sucks. The Conjuring. The Conjuring. Oh, what did you say? The Exorcist? Yeah, I am. God damn it. Yeah, I am going to say The Exorcist. This is how I know you're all of 60 years old. Yeah, whatever.

That movie sucks. The Conjuring. Actually, The Conjuring was scary. I'll give you that it was scary. No, this new movie with Eric Bana. What's it called? What is it? Deliverance from Evil with Eric Bana.

I'll tell you what. Definitely slept with my lights on. Yeah, I'm not afraid of it. Had my lights on. Did you really? This shit was scary, man. Joe, what's not afraid of it. I had my lights on. Did you really? This shit was scary, man. Joe, what's your scariest movie of all time? I live by myself, man.

Scariest movie of all time. I don't know. Don't say the extras. Don't say the extras. I don't know. I mean, not The Exorcist today. Omen. The Omen was scary.

I would have to think about that. Angel Heart scared the shit out of me, man. You got anything new, Brian? No, I don't. You got anything new? No, I do not. Angel Heart. It scared the shit out of me man you got anything new Brian no I don't you got anything no I do not angel heart it scared the shit

out of me for real the exorcism's a cop out man that's what everyone exorcist maybe greatest of all time no what

the greatest of all time as far as a scary movie horror movie yeah oh no oh yeah no because you gotta put them in perspective

like it might have been great down then you watch it now you're bored as fuck watch it, you're bored as fuck. I actually did watch it recently, about four years ago, and I was pretty damn scared. In the middle, you were watching it, you were tweeting and checking your Instagram.

See, that's the thing. When I saw Deliverance from Evil, when I saw that movie, I saw it at the Marina Theaters, where there's that dining experience. This fuck next to me is chewing on popcorn. He has a margarita. It fucks up a dining experience. This fuck next to me is chewing on popcorn. He has like a margarita. It fucks up the whole experience. You know what I'm saying?

I would be terrified. Chompy Chompers over here is on Twizzlers and Sour Patch Kids. Balls deep in his girl. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, dude, reclining back and shit. It's not as scary. He's a loud watcher. The Shining.

The Shining's a good one. The Shining is a good one. The Shining's legit. That was scary as shit. That might be loud watcher. The Shining. The Shining's a good one. The Shining is a good one. Shining's legit. That was scary as shit. That might be my scariest. Filmed in Colorado. I might jump ship and say, I don't have any characters, so I don't usually stick to my original, but I'd say that The Shining is probably my favorite.

I'm going with The Conjuring. Texas Chainsaw Massacre was pretty fucking scary, too, because I couldn't really picture those dudes. The original one or the one with Jessica Biel? The original one. No, I liked the one with Jessica Biel. I loved it. Me too. I'll take it because of that.

That was a scary goddamn movie. You know what else was scary, man? Jaws. Jaws was fucking scary. That ruined me for the ocean. Dude, someone got attacked by a great white off the Manhattan Beach. Yeah, but I think they were long-distance swimmers, right?

And they had hooked the great white. It was a seven-footer. Hey, guess what, buddy? I don't give a fuck what happened. He got attacked by a great white. But they did say he was fishing, and the guy caught a great white. Yeah, he was caught a great white.

What are you going to do with it? What are you going to do with it? He was reeling it in. Forty minutes later, these long-distance swimmers swim between the rod and basically the shark, and the shark bit the dude. In the torso. he's fine though

Gangster tattoo Super cool tattoo I just want to get bit just so I can tell the story Yeah, Jaws was scary though I'll give you that, Jaws was a scary one I'm guessing no one's seen The Conjuring I have, I saw it Here's another one that was scary

28 Days Later See, that's Rhonda's favorite movie That does nothing for me I saw it. Here's another one that was scary as fuck. Scary. 28 Days Later. That was scary as fuck. See, that's Rhonda's favorite movie. I'm not... That does nothing for me. That didn't do anything for me. You know what scared me was... What was that movie?

Paranormal Activity? The first one? The first one. You thought it was real? It scared the shit out of me. I saw The Blair Witch Project. You see that? Yeah.

When I thought it was real, I was super scared. You thought it was real, huh? It was a home camera, man. The way they filmed it. It was pretty genius in that sense, but I didn't really. But Blair Witch Project scared me a little bit, and so did the second one. Blair Witch scared me. I saw Blair Witch with my buddy Chris McGuire.

We were working in Houston. We were doing the Laugh Stop, which doesn't exist anymore, and these kids that worked at the movie theater across the street came to the show and they said, hey, do you guys want to go see the Blair Witch Project, just all of us in the movie theater? We have the keys. And we were like, are you fucking kidding me?

And so we did a show. I think it was like a Thursday night show. So we did like an eight o'clock show. After the show, say goodbye to everybody, go across the street. And they turned on the movie theater. They turned on the lights, locked the door. the movie theater. They turned on the lights, locked the door, we went in, they turned on the

fucking theater, and we sat down and watched Blair Witch, and it scared the piss out of me. Damn. You guys were super scared. Well, at first I was like, this is fucking goofy. That's how I was, yeah. It was so low budget. So low budget. And then I saw it again in a movie with a bunch of people and it was whack. When they found

the kid was talking. You need to be alone. That's a really scary setting. Some guy brought his three-year-old. Three-year-old was talking during the whole movie. If you're alone in a big movie theater, you could die right there. That could be a trap he's setting. It's true.

Nah, they were, you know. I know. I'm just being dramatic. One kid had a nose ring, and he weighed 80 pounds. It was a girl that was overweight. No one was getting hurt. If anybody was getting hurt, it was going to be them. But they were nice.

It was cool that they did that for us, though. It was really fun. Oh, by the way, I will be... Are you going to plug your fucking dates? July 18th and 19th, I'll be at the West Palm Beach Improv. Son of a bitch. So make sure you come by. I will be bringing heat.

So are we officially hunting The last week in September Are we doing that You down for Alaska Last week I thought you said first week Now you're changing it on me Fucking idiot

You're changing it on me I gave you the dates I know you No you didn't You didn't give me any dates I have the text here Don't make me pull it up Please pull it up

Because it says the last week No Hold please Please hold Where are you guys going to hunt Again Blacktail This time it's going to be

black-tailed deer in Alaska. At Steve Rinella's place. I don't hear Brian talking. I'll tell you. Are you around the end of September? The answer is yes. Are you around? Yes.

So you are around the end of September. Okay. So it'll be like, I think the dates he gave me are like, I think it's like the 29th. From the 29th on into October. What are you guys, killing a black-tailed deer with bazookas or something? No, rifles, bro. Rifles, bro. And maybe even a bow and arrow.

Animal lover. I'm bringing my bow. Yeah, well, guess who's going to shoot it? Oh, it's 90 pounds. Not you. 90 pounds? You can't do it. Can't pull it back.

Can't pull it back. Oh, damn it. Get to the gym, son. I don't want to talk about it. I am in the gym all the time with Lauren Landau. You're boxing. I'm saying get on a bench press. Hey, bro, how many pull-ups did I do?

Yeah, but you weigh eight pounds. Hold. How many pull-ups? You keep saying that. But you were kicking your legs. You don't weigh a lot. Don't do that. Don't make that motion, bro.

That's what he kept doing. See, you talk about how many pull-ups you do, but what do you weigh? I weigh 170 pounds. Are you 170? He weighs about 165. What? You're solid 163. About 165.

I'm 170. And how many chin-ups can you do? 31. He did 31. I'll give him that. 31? But he was like throwing his legs. What do you call it?

Kipping? Bro, it wasn't that much of a kipping. It's like CrossFit. I did it at CrossFit. I said one. It's not that much. You're suspended from being my friend for two days, so you said CrossFit. Yeah, well, Brian, those aren't chin-ups.

Those are kipping chin-ups. And the guys who do those, they do like 100. Well, I did. You know, like Fedor, when he was the guys who do those, they do like 100. Well, I did. You know, like Fedor, when he was a heavyweight, used to do like 100 of those. God, really? Oh, God. There's a video of Fedor doing kipping chin-ups.

It's a frightening fucking guy. That's the one where he's in like the wilderness of Russia, and he's like carrying wood and shit. He's like, hud, hud, hud, hud, doing those kipping chin-ups. And he's in a sunga, like he's in some whitey tighties, just fucking Doing work Well he used to wear Like black socks

And fucking running shoes From like From the 80s Some new balances With black socks And his whitey tighties But no one said shit Cause he's such a bastard

And I was like Then I came to the gym And guys are in Black socks And whitey tighties Trying to do the same shit Well it's not like They have Foot Locker

In the middle of Russia Right Where that guy lives. Where are you getting your sneakers? You make them yourself. You steal them from people who are running by you. Right? Tackle them at the knees.

Yeah, he used to do a lot of old school training methods. Like you put hand weights and throw punches. Definitely caught up. Well, you know where it caught up with him? It's interesting because I was watching some old Fedor fights. Huge Fedor fan. Who's not? Who's not? Who's not?

If you're not, you're not an MMA fan. Him and Sakuraba. Yeah. Well, Fedor was just a different thing, man. He was a totally different thing. That's completely different. But I used to go back and watch his fight. I was watching his fights recently.

And he was much bigger back in the day. Physically bigger. Stronger. Still about 230, though. You mean bigger than what? Much more muscle. Bigger than other guys, you mean? More muscle than he did at the end of his career.

Oh, okay. At the end of his career, he stopped lifting weights. Done with the weights. He was just doing fight training. But if you go back to the Fujita fight, he was thick traps, big shoulders, fucking strong as shit. And somewhere along the line, he just got tired of lifting weights, I think. I don't know what it was.

What led him to decide- Or he got older, right? And started losing muscle mass maybe. No, no. He stopped lifting weights. Like he talked about it. He just did fight training only later on in his career. I think he thought that technique was more important than physical strength.

Yeah. Which is true for the most part. I've gone towards that route personally. Towards technique, yeah. Yeah. Like I'm like, let's see, I'm going to go in the gym and spend an hour lifting weights, throwing down weights, or I can be on the mat working on my boxing technique or jiu-jitsu and wrestling. I'm going to go do jiu-jitsu and wrestling.

Well, you know what Steve Maxwell's thought on that is? It was really interesting because Maxwell spent a lifetime with strength and conditioning, working with athletes. He thinks that if you're going to lift weights for sports, you shouldn't lift weights like strength and conditioning style. He thinks that if you're going to lift weights for sports, you shouldn't lift weights like strength and conditioning style. He thinks if you're doing like martial arts, if you're in the middle of like training technique, he goes, you should do like sets. Like do sets of deadlifts, do sets of bench, do sets of chin. You mean like eight to ten? No, just to get stronger. He's like, you shouldn't work on your endurance.

Like you shouldn't be like doing these fucking crazy strength and conditioning workouts while you're in camp working out for fights He's like if you're he goes you should lift weights to keep your muscle mass and to keep your strength But all your conditioning should come from your kickboxing should come from your wrestling. Yeah, come from you Jiu-jitsu actually, I'm actually going to Arizona on Thursday meet with this new this new strength conditioning coach who Tim Tebow works with and Yeah, I'm going out there with Tim, and he said the exact same thing. This guy works with everyone. He said, he's like, you shouldn't have a session where you're working, you know, reps and stuff like that.

He said exactly what you just told him. Yeah, these guys are saying that your skills are the most important thing and your strength and all your physical strength, like the mass and size that you could put on and maintain. He's like, you should maintain that. You should get strong. You should do all that, but don't do like strength and conditioning,

like while you're in a fight camp. Like the CrossFit stuff. Yeah. Don't do that because you're not going to have the same energy to do your jujitsu work. Right. Right. Like when I was doing jujitsu all the time,

if I would lift weights, I could lift weights in the morning and do jujitsu at night. You know why? Because I would do like a set of bench and and then I would sit around meeting Eddie Bravo, would talk shit for five minutes, laugh and goof off, and then we would do another set. So we would get all the strength workout in, but I still had energy to train at night. Whereas if I do my kettlebell routine that I do, if I do that shit, that's a wrap. You're done.

I'm done. That's interesting, man. When you do strength training, do you do it twice a week when you're in camp? When I'm in camp, I do it twice a week, yeah. Twice a week. But out of camp, like now I lift four or five times a week. Is it a full body thing? Outside of camp, just trying to get bigger, stronger.

So when I go in camp, my body's going to break down. I'm going to lose some size. I just try to keep it. You know what I'm saying? Where do you break it up in body parts? But like people ask me, like even younger fighters at Reign or Grace Academy, like, oh, like what should I be doing in the weight room, stuff like that.

Especially if you're a younger fighter, you shouldn't really waste your time in the weight room. You don't get paid to bench and squat and power clean. You get paid to submit bitches and knock them out. So work on submitting and knocking bitches out. Here's the finals. This is the light heavyweight finals, right? Yeah, those breasts are...

Yeah, those are gynomastica. Those are gynomastica, interesting. Corey Anderson and Matt Van Buren. He does have a set of nipples on him, doesn't he? He does. The other dude. The other dude does. Not him, that dude's straight.

Yeah, him. Matt Van Buren's a fucking animal. So is Corey. This is a good fight. Really good fight. And this is like, what we're talking about, the high level of guys that are coming up, man.

These guys that are fighting. I mean, you go back to the day when Forrest was fighting Stefan Bonner, and then look at these guys. And you're dealing with some pretty high level guys now. They're a lot more well-rounded. Yeah. A lot more well-rounded. First of all, that dude's 6'5".

At 205, that's insane. He's a big boy. Big boy. Oh! Oh! He's in trouble. Corey's cracking him. Oh, he's rocked, man. He's out of it.. Big boy. Oh. Oh. Oh. He's in trouble. Corey's cracking him. Oh, he's rocked, man.

He's out of it. He's out of it. Oh, yeah. He's in trouble, man. He's covering up. He's super out of it. He's taking it. Oh.

Oh, Jesus. No, look. He's coming back. No, he's not. No, he's not. He's out of it. He might be done. He's super out of it.

Wow. Wow. He's coming back. But he's still trading. Oh, my goodness. He got hit in the eye so hard. Oh, it's over. This fight's over back. But he's still trading. Oh, my goodness. He got hit in the eye so hard. This fight's over. It's super over, man.

Corey's all over him. No, why take him? See, I... Just smash him. Look at this. Nah, he should have kept on the feet. I don't know. You can recover right now.

You can recover this. Not like this. A lot more than when you're on the feet. Mario's going to stop it. That's it. That's it. That's how you get hurt. That's a good stoppage. Good stoppage. The two tough. That's how you get hurt. That's a good stoppage.

Good stoppage. The two tough ones have just been some ass whooping, son. Corey Anderson can crack. Power of the nipples, son. That's what it is. Yeah. For people who don't know, there's a bunch of different ways to get those nipples. Doesn't mean you did steroids.

No, not at all. Really? Yeah. But a lot of times it means. What are the other ways? A lot of times it means. Not to put you on the spot. What are the other ways? A lot of times it means. Not to put you on the spot, what are the other ways again?

Purple nipples? Real quick. Real quick. How do I avoid that? I like it because Joe's got really quiet. I'd like to hear. Everyone just got quiet about it. Nobody's pointing fingers.

I didn't see any needles. Try to be nice, bro. Try to be nice. Okay. We had a guy. There was one guy that fought in the UFC once that was like, there's a close-up on the nipples there.

One guy fought in the UFC once that had like, there's a close-up on the nipples there. One guy fought in the UFC once that had a serious problem. When he was younger, I guess he did a lot of steroids. And he was jumping up and down inside the octagon, and his boobs were like hopping, like flopping, flopping. And he was fighting 170. Got a set of tits on him, huh? Yeah, he was fighting 170. Damn, Corey can crack.

Look at this. Yeah. Beautiful striking. Boom! Straight through the 170. Damn, Corey can crack. Look at this. Yeah. Beautiful striking. Boom! Strike through the middle. Boom! Great straight shot. Boom!

Boy, boom. But that fight was about 15 seconds long, and his hand wraps came apart. Who fucking wrapped his hands? Yeah. Look at that. It's that war tape, you know, on the thumb and stuff. Yeah, you never want a set of tits like that. You don't want nipples like that.

No. Not that bad. I mean, I've seen way worse. I've seen way worse. It doesn't take away from his great performance. Go to Gold's Gym. You want gyno? Go to Gold's Gym.

Is that right? Oh, my God. Bro, get a brawl on, would you? That, correct me if I'm wrong, that place, last time I worked out there, smells like ammonia. Smells like protein farts. Smells like protein farts. That's exactly what it smells like.

Yeah, this is the Expendables. Mel Gibson, back to work. I love it. Playing a bad guy. Back to work in the Expendables. There's my boy, Wesley Snipes. These Expendables movie, America loves them. There was a little talk About you fighting Wesley

A long time ago It was a long time ago What happened with that? He decided not to get his ass kicked Wait What's the story? Is it actually going to go down? Yeah

We had lawyers involved And everything What happened? He changed his mind He needed a lot of money He called you out? How did he start? Campbell McLaren

Who was the guy Who was the original producer For The Ultimate Fighter Calls me up out of nowhere and says, this is going to sound crazy, but would you be interested in fighting Wesley Stimes? I'm like, what are you talking about? And so then they start explaining what's going on. I was training a lot. How long ago was this, first of all? A lot back then.

2006? So Blade was out. He did make Blade. That would scare me out of the fight. I think what was going on was that the IRS was coming down on him hard. So he's looking for cash. Yeah, he was looking to try. He's not unathletic, by the way. No, he knows martial arts.

Yeah, and he's. But never competed and no jiu-jitsu. And I think he just thought I was just a grappler. And then somewhere along the line, I don't know what happened, but he just decided not to do it. You know, I think if you've never competed your whole life and you have these ideas. Plus, I think he's probably hanging around with a bunch of dudes who are taking Bolivian marching powder. And like, you know what? Just go in there and fuck everybody up, Wesley.

Time to make your money. Time to make your money. Wesley, let me tell you something, Wesley. There's a lot of motherfuckers out there doing that karate, doing all kinds of martial arts, but they don't know what you know. You got something special inside you, bro. This is your time to shine. Heart of a lion.

He's probably crunk from Blade and doing all these stunts. He's like, fuck yeah, I'll do it. Well, if you talk to Patton Oswalt, Patton Oswalt did Blade with him, and apparently there was just bags of cocaine involved in the making of that. Yeah. Patton Oswalt has a whole bit he does about it. Wow. About being on the set with Wesley, like how fucked up he was.

He went through some dark periods. He had three lines in that movie. He had three lines and he just killed vampires nonstop. Great movie. They pulled the lines from him, hired a double to do all the scenes. There was another guy. So he did nothing. Half that movie.

So he did nothing. I don't know what happened, but half that movie, like Pat Nozzle has a whole bit about how they brought in the way cooler black guy to pretend to be Blade, but that guy didn't get a talk. So Wesley had some struggles with... Yeah, he had some issues. Well, he also had some issues with a bunch of questionable characters that told

him not to pay taxes. Let me get this straight, Joe. So you weren't scared at all about a coked up Wesley Snipes that just got done doing blade? No. Not at all? No. Coming at you like a spider?

No. Nothing? No. Clinch to ground. Clinch to ground. Squeeze, tap, or sleep. But when he's all coked up, just like fidgeting, like freaking out?

I'm not worried about that. Yeah, you probably shouldn't be. No. Probably gas out pretty fast. A guy who has never done jiu-jitsu, who weighs 170 pounds, if I grab you, he's not. He's pretty thick. Trust me. No, he's not thick at all.

You always do this. You always do this. He's not big at all. He's not thick in the least bit. I've seen him in person. Really? Yeah. You'd say he's 170?

He's heavier than me. Please, he's heavier than I am. No, I don't think so, B. I get this, the gable grip around the waist, and then I squeeze. Squeeze. And then I turn you like this, and then I get on top of you. And then what you're going to do? You're going to make a mistake.

And you make a mistake. Why do you sound Japanese? You sound like an old Japanese guy. I don't know how to make it up. Not when he's on that. You went from Brazilian to Japanese? Not when he's on that devil's dandruff and he's all coked up and he can't get a hold of him. Even better.

I was planning on failing every drug test, by the way. So was he. So was he. I mean, if they tested me for pot. It'd be like Wanderlei and Chael. You guys have been great. Yeah. I do all my training high, so I was trying to figure out whether I was going to fight high.

You always train high? Jiu-jitsu, yeah. Why? I don't always. Why? I like it. I like doing I was going to fight high. You always train high. Jiu-jitsu, yeah. Why? I don't always. Why? I like it. I like doing jiu-jitsu high. Like the smoke they hear for.

And then roll. You know what I really like? I like eating it. I like eating it and then rolling. Why? I like eating it. I think it makes me more sensitive. It makes me more aware of what's going on.

It makes me more focused. I completely zone in. A lot of guys do jiu-jitsu high. A lot of guys. Yeah, I'm aware. Yeah. It's just, I've never, right? I've never done it.

You should do it. Bro, I'm telling you, if you did it, you might not. Never. If you have some time off and you're going to do jiu-jitsu, you do. And so you know you're not going to get tested. You're not really going to smoke pot. I mean, it's all just joking around, right? Yeah.

Joking around on the podcast. Just try it once. I'm telling you. You'd love it. I mean, I don't know if you'd love it, but I would assume you'd love it. Yeah. Eddie Bravo does it every goddamn time. BJ Penn.

Eddie was a little high last night. A little bit. Hey, can we talk about real quick? Everyone's talking about their shitty dad stories, which I had nothing to contribute to. Right. Homeboy's one story was awful. He had a great dad.

He had a long hair. He had a great dad. He kept trying to bring his story into it. Oh, that dude? Yeah. Horrible story. I kept looking for it. How often do you talk to your dad? He goes, every day. But then I was like, oh, well, your dad's very much in your life. He goes, no, but my dad's all success when he calls me.

He tries to give me tips and shit. That guy's a nice guy, so let's not talk too much shit about him. We're not giving names. It was a little... Horrible story. It was... Yeah. Sometimes dudes get around guys like you guys that tell great stories, and they try to throw their own story in it, and they don't realize their story sucks. You know, you're dealing with Eddie Bravo, who's a great storyteller. My buddy Justin, who's a great storyteller.

Justin's story was depressing as fuck. My buddy Justin... It got dark. Yeah, it was. It got dark. My story's not as bad as his. Your story's pretty dark as well. It's bad.

It's bad. I didn't say... You know me. I'll talk your freaking ear bad. I didn't say it. That's not, you know, me. I like, I'll talk your freaking ear off. I didn't say a word last night. Yeah. I had nothing. I can't contribute.

I can't contribute to the story. So I'm not good. Nothing's worse when then someone doesn't know what they're talking about, especially with experiences like that. My parents, my dad loved the shit out of me, straight up. So when you guys talk about these shitty childhoods, I can't really jump in. Right. There's nothing worse

when we got it. Oh, I hear that, bro. Right. I hear that. One time I went to McDonald's, my dad didn't buy me a fucking Happy Meal.

I feel you, bro. All those presents at Christmas, I was like, another one? I know. I was like, this is too much.

Yeah, depressing childhood stories are rough. They're hard to deal with. But yeah, that one dude's story was not so good. It compares to, I mean, Justice was horrible. Mine wasn't the best. Eddie's is horrible. I're hard to deal with. But yeah, that one dude's story was not so good. It compares to, I mean,

Justin's was horrible. Mine wasn't the best. Eddie's is horrible. I was trying not to laugh. I can't hide when I think something's funny. I was trying to not laugh at his story.

And he kept bringing it back in. And even his friend goes, even his friend goes, hey bro, maybe pipe down. He goes, no, no man, fuck that.

It sucks when your dad's disappointed in you. He was a little drunk. Sober up for sure. Sober up. Spilled half a drink when your dad's disappointed in you. I went sober up for sure. Spilled half a drink on my jeans last night. As the day went on, he got even more drunk. Really? Yeah. He was trying to

explain something to me later on that night and it was like he was waking up from anesthesia. Trying to explain something to me. I was like, it's okay man. I got it. I get it. I, it's okay, man. I got it. I get it. I get it.

I get it. That happens in Vegas. About 3.30 in the morning, you'll get cornered by some people. I don't hang out with anyone. No, I can't get down with it. So did you know him from before or no? No, he's my buddy Justin's pal. He's a good dude.

He just got hammered. And you know what happens, man? Like I said, when people are around guys like you guys that tell great stories and they want to contribute and tell a great story too, they're just not used to don't do that you know you're around a fucking world-class stand-up comedian like brian callen who tells great fucking stories and you want to throw yours into the mix good luck bring your a game though bro he doesn't have an a game he had that false sense of reality because he's drunk nothing like being around joey diaz when he starts telling stories. Oh, he's amazing.

I've never met him, man. I hear him on your podcast. Every time Joe, he starts telling stories. funniest guy that's ever lived? Yeah. What? I've met a lot of funny people.

Why can't you bring him on the fight companions? Anytime, anytime. I'll do it next time. Next one we do. He'll do it? If he's in town, I'll have him do it.

Dude, he wants to do the fighter and the kid. I talked to him two days ago about it. He's the funniest guy that's ever lived. Are you serious? Yeah, I've met a lot

of really funny guys. He's from Sopranos? Is that right? No, no, no, no. He looks like the guy from Sopranos. He looks identical to him. He looks like Big Pussy. Yes. He's not funniest guy that's ever lived. Are you serious? Yeah, I've met a lot of really funny guys. He's from Sopranos? Is that right? No, no, no. He looks like the guy from Sopranos. He looks identical to him. He looks like Big Pussy. Yes.

He's not at all? Not really. If you saw Big Pussy, you saw him. He's working a lot as an actor, though, man. Yeah, he's worked a lot. But you know what? He's making more money now with his stand-up than ever, and it's all because of the internet. It's all because of podcasts, because he can be himself.

He just never runs out of stories, and he's got a fucking personality that goes on for days. This is BJ Penner, Frankie Edgar, and I'm going to piss, so please be kind when I leave the room. Don't worry. And we're about to see two fucking legends go down. Now look at Daniel Cormier. Please look at him. Come on. Couldn't look more normal.

Couldn't look more like a 9-to-5-er? He looks like a 9-to-5-er. No, he doesn't. He certainly does. And I love, you know how much I love him. How much do I talk? I pick him every time. I just find it amazing. He's having knee surgery and then waiting for his title shot. Smart move, I think.

Yeah. This was a mistake, Brennan. His hands weren't up, right? What was going on with that? Hold. Hold. Hold. Hold.

What? I don't give a fuck. We just already saw that. Hold. What? I don't give a fuck. Come on. We just already saw that, man. What happened? He got punched in the face very, very hard. He got disoriented, and then more punches happened. Well, okay.

Thanks a lot, Dr. No Help. I mean, what do you want me to tell you, man? He got punched directly in the face. Yeah, but his hand should have been up, right? That's tough, man. Shit happens. I love Ron Stanton. He's a good man. Everyone does. I love Brian Stanton. Everyone does.

Nothing not to love about the guy. Square-jawed Marine. Could he look any more American? He should be. To be a U.S. citizen, you should have to know who Brian Stanton is. He's Jack Armstrong. You know what I'm saying? He could run for president and fucking win, by the way.

I would vote for him. I think Chael Sonnen could too. No, no. Hold on. Hold on. If we went in a time machine to six months ago. No. He's still a felon.

Let's say before he was a felon. I'd love Chael. I'd vote for him too. Chael could talk his way into it. Chael's better talking than Brian. More creative. Brian's more clear because he was in

freaking doing tours and killing bitches. So he's a lot more clear. You get real clear when you start killing bitches. There's no stuttering

when you're ordering stands. Stan is very direct. I guess they're going over the final. They're going to show Eddie Gore and Diego Lima again.

Why are they showing it? And they just show us the other one. Because they're killing a little time. I just saw it. Why are you reshowing this? Because the us the other one. Because they're killing a little time. I just saw it. Why are you showing this? Because the last fight was a one-round knockout, too.

There's a lot of knockouts on this guy, right? Boom, Gordon cracks. Slacker. And tell you what, man, Diego Lima is tough as shit. You know, the kind of punishment. Remember to watch your head contain it. They're both going to be fun. Angry, this fight looks.

This is where I should have stopped right there, I think. Gordon looks so angry. This is like a... If you wanted to talk about how evil cage fighting is, look at this. It's the end of the world. It's the beast. This is when in the future, when they start looking back... That scared me.

I was like... Yeah. When they start looking back in the future about when society crumbled and when fucking things... This is like the first steps. The gladiator. The return of the gladiator, yeah. The Coliseum. I mean, tell me this isn't

similar to the Coliseum. Tell me that reality shows aren't similar. That's exactly what it is. You had a good answer when somebody said, why is it so popular? Why is Emma Mesa so popular? And you said, it's the closest you can come to watching two men kill each other with their bare hands. Yeah, because guess what? If Eve Levine or Herb Dean's not in there,

no one stops it, someone's dying. Yeah, the guy's out cold and you're stomping his head until it's jello. Yes. It's not good. Unfortunately. The only reason why the ref is there is to make sure that doesn't happen. Yeah. Damn, a lot of empty seats back there, huh?

Super empty. Well, it's 14,000 seats. Guess what? It's Sunday in Vegas after 4th of July. I know. I'm not even a partier. I'm fucking exhausted. I was thinking that this morning, because I left

this morning, and when I flew out, man, it was the airport was mobbed. Vegas looked like it was full of zombies. The airport looked like zombies. You got about an hour of sleep. The kid takes vitamins. You should see my piss. It's bright

orange. It's like a glowing vitamin orange. You know who doesn't do well? It's impressive. Bro, if I don't get eight hours of sleep. Yeah. Well, you train really hard, man. I don't do well. This is a good weekend, man.

I got two real solid workouts in. I worked out with De La Grotte and yesterday I lifted. I love De La Grotte. I worked out with the same time as Rhonda's girl. Marina. Marina, yeah. Very cool chick. Yeah, very cool.

She was there. She works out hard. She's a beast, man. She's girl. Marina. Yeah, very cool chick. Yeah, very cool. She was there. Chick works out hard. She's a beast, man. She's a little beast. She's like Ronda's best friend and protege. She's a beast. Yeah, you could tell. She's a 145er, though.

Yeah, she was putting her strength and conditioning work out. She had like a fucking phone in front of her with all of her routines on. All her stuff. Yeah, she put in some fucking work. I was impressed. So here it is. We're going to watch Frankie Edgar and BJ Penn Third time I believe

Now Does anyone cheer against BJ Penn? I mean who cheers against BJ Penn? Frankie Edgar's wife Frankie Edgar's mom Frankie Edgar's dad I love Frankie Edgar man I do too

I love Frankie Edgar BJ went down to Jose Aldo's camp I guess right? Well he did a little bit of training At Novo Nyao But he did most of the training In Hawaii for this Always Always Yeah I mean Ian McCall who Was Well, he did a little bit of training at Novo Uniao, but he did most of the training in Hawaii for this.

Always, always. Yeah, I mean, Ian McCall, he went with BJ down to Hilo to train with him. He said BJ's in incredible shape. He said, and Ian has fantastic endurance, and he said BJ was outworking him. He said he was blown away by how good a shape BJ's in. Now, I've heard million fucking times every fight I hear this literally every fight every time but what blew me away about this is that first of all they're going to fight at 145 like that's going to be a disaster BJ's zombie was making 155 right but whatever he did I don't know what he adjusted I would love to talk to him about it, how he changed his body. But he got down where he was walking around like under 160, like on a regular basis. And then the fight week, he was 149 fight week, you know, without any cutting.

Yeah, and then he easily made 145. Frankie weighed 145.5. BJ weighed 145 on the nugget. Looked good at the weigh-ins. Jeez. You know what I mean? Looked skinny. So he had trouble making 55, BJ?

I didn't know that. He's not tall. That's why he fought 170 all the time. He fought Nick Diaz and he fought Rory McDonald. Two big 170s. That Rory McDonald fight was hard to watch. Rory's my boy. BJ Penn,

he's a superstar. He's as big as they get superstar. The is, as big as they get, superstar. The most down-to-earth, nicest guy I've ever met in the UFC, hands down. Yeah, BJ Penn. He's the salt of the earth. And he's a real warrior. But you know what, man? He's a guy that has an incredible amount of pride.

And, you know, he's got a lot of ego. He's got a lot of pride. He loves, you know, he wants to get in there and be the BJ that he used to be. Well, that's why he's who he is. You don't get to that point without having ego. Listen, everyone who fights in the UFC has an ego. But if he could use that and motivate himself to get back in the kind of shape that he was back when he fought Diego Sanchez, back when he fought Sean Shirk.

Yeah. I mean, he was in insane condition back then. How old is he now? He's probably 35, 36. How old do you think he is? I'm going to say he's 42. He's Dwayne. He's the Rock Sage.

Brian thinks BJ Penn's 21 years old. That's right. He's the Rock Sage. I don't think he is. He's 36, right? I'd say mid-30s for sure. Yeah, maybe. Find a long time.

Yeah, it's been a while. UFC, by the way, the UFC website is dog shit. It's horrible. You can't go to the fighter until their fight is on. Like, if you try to go to the fighter when their fight's not on, it takes you to the previous fight. Like, you go to the card, and when you go to the card, it shows, like, the fighters, and you try to read the bio on them, and it just, like, it doesn't, like, even allow you to click on it.

It actually takes you back to the other fight. It's weird. It's weird. Okay, let's see if I can search fighters BJ Penn. I'm saying BJ's probably 35. You can just do BJ age on Google. I'm saying 34. I'm going to say 36 should do BJ age on Google. I'm saying 34. I'm going to say 36.

Okay, let's try here. Let's see. BJ Penn. Do, do, do, do, do. 35. Wow. 35. Hello, Hawaii.

35. So for BJ, this is, you know, last chance for romance. At the lighter weights especially. You know, heavier guys can last longer. You know, they oftentimes, like especially heavyweights, mature a little bit later and are still effective. I'm still growing. I take my Flintstone vitamins. Word.

Word up. Listen, I'm rooting for BJ. I want him to win. I don't think he stands a chance. Really? I don't. It hurts to say because I love BJ. Do you know what the odds are?

No, I don't. They opened up at 10 to 1. Frankie? I don't. It hurts to say because I love BJ. Do you know what the odds are? No, I don't. They opened up at 10-1. Frankie? Mm-hmm. Frankie is the favorite. Makes sense. Yeah. Makes sense. Frankie's outstanding. I mean, he's just a fucking he's a stud. He's a fucking stud. He's an outstanding athlete. He's got some of the best footwork in the UFC.

I'd say if not the best. No one's got a bigger heart. No one's got a better chin. No one's more of a fucking gamer than Frankie. He's as game as fuck. Take those Gray Maynard fights. Jesus Christ. Bro, his coach, Mark Henry, I worked with before I fought Cro Cop. I flew out to New Jersey with his camp.

I was with Rikala Almeida, his striking coach, Mark Henry. And it's insane. I've never seen anything like it. If you watch Mark Henry in the corner, he's drenched in sweat by the end of the fight. It's literally like he has a control stick and he's doing this with Frankie. He's just shouting out, Frankie, they have a whole system in code. He'll go one, three, four, five, one, three, four, five. And it changes every fight. So he can't pick up on it. It's like his coach is Peyton Manning and is running the offense, and he's so nervous before the fight because he feels like it's banking on him

because he calls every combination you see. Wow. There's no one else like him in the UFC, coaching-wise. Yeah, man. Mark Henry, beast. Did you get a lot out of working with him? A ton. Really?

A ton. Did you think about moving to New Jersey? I did. Really? And I thought- What held you back? The chicks? Accents?

News with gold chains? No, Jersey Shore came out. I was like, fuck that. Jersey Shore came on MTV and I'm like, I'm good. I'm all set. If they all look like Snooki, I'm all set. That's where I was born, man. So I came to LA.

That's where I was born. Yeah, Mark Henry's a beast, man. Yeah. I was working as a baseman. I worked with him so much, the calluses on my feet were ripping off because I was working as a baseman nonstop at night. Really? The guy's work ethic is insane.

I don't think there's another coach in the world who works harder than Mark Henry. Wow. So you really didn't get enough credit. No kidding. You didn't get enough credit. I was getting it from you. Did you think about moving down there? I did but there wasn't big guys

There was no big guys around That's a big thing A bummer Do you base where you train by the size of the guys? I base on it On The coaches First I find the coaches

And then I always think that at least if there's big guys in the area i'll i'll at least get to them somehow and honestly i i thought me and verdun would work together more and then uh they when i first came out to give like a trial run there was word that me and verdun were gonna fight each other me and him started talking shit to each other on twitter it got out of hand he texted me or tweeted me like i'll fight you on the moon and i put okay or we can just do me, like, I'll fight you on the moon. And I put, okay, or we can just do it in Las Vegas, September 21st. Not the moon. Save your money.

You know, like. Rockets are expensive. Yeah, that's what I said. I said, rocket fuel is super expensive. Let's just do it in Las Vegas, bro. Definitely won that battle. Kind of an awkward, like, thing to step up to. Yeah, but so we were going to fight, but then he was like, nah, man.

Like, we might have to fight so he doesn't want to work together thing to step up to. Yeah, but so we were going to fight, but then he was like, nah, man, we might have to fight so he doesn't want to work together. Great guy, though. Yeah. But how about now? Would you? Well, they still might

have to fight, dude. They're both in the heavyweights in the UFC. Are you paying attention? Yeah, I am, but you can still train with him. I would work with him, yeah.

Look how skinny BJ is. It's kind of weird looking at him all skinny like this. He looks like Brian Kelly. I love his walkouts. My favorite in the UFC.

He gets so emotional. Sometimes he cries when he walks out, huh? Look at that. He gets me fired up, man. Looking at him, just looking at his face gets me fired up. I love it. I'm a huge BJ Penn fan. Me too, man.

God damn. And Frankie Edgar. They could not live in more contrasting places. Right. One of them lives in paradise. The other one lives in fucking Jersey. Jersey. That's Mark Henry right there.

Yeah, so I like those gloves too. Big, thick, padded gloves, but they still have- I'm telling you, I don't know if you'll be able to pick it up on the broadcast, but you'll literally hear Mark shouting the entire rounds. Four, five, six, seven, nine, nine, nine. Just those are all combinations. And they change it every camp because they don't want people picking up on it. That's incredible.

It shows you how smart Frank is, too. Well, it shows you how much work they put in. There's some serious work. Oh, Mark Henry, just off me, just when we worked together, I'm talking this notebook right here, completely full notes. Wow. It was overwhelming. I was like, damn, now I'm going to need to here. Completely full notes. Wow. It was overwhelming. I was like, damn, I need to go study this for about a year. What does it feel like when you leave that and you train with someone else

and you don't have all that? You must feel like what the fuck? I'm not maximizing my potential. Nope. I got a guy now here in LA. Tony Jeffries does the same shit. Really? Does the same shit, but he's just boxing. You know what I'm saying? We've talked about this. Yeah, we need to talk about what I'm saying? Yeah. We've talked about this. Yeah, we need to talk about that when you shut this off.

Yeah, we'll talk about this on air. I got some new information for you. All right. We'll talk some more. But here it is. It's going down right now, man. Oh, I'm so excited about this fight. It's going to be great.

I almost thought about staying in Vegas just for this fight. Wow, that place filled up. That shows you, man. I'll tell you right now, Fedor could be fighting in the prime, could be fighting a prime freaking whoever, and I wouldn't have stayed in Vegas. Well, man, I don't know. Fedor I would have stayed for. Not me. Fedor could have been fighting

Cro Cop in the prime, and I would have went home to LA right now. No, not me. I would have told my wife, listen, bitch. Mike Dolce in the background. I'll see you in a day. I gotta watch Fedor and croak up not me i would i would have paid double for my air ticket today to get home that's funny but out of all the fighters that i wish i had seen live he's number one fedor oh i saw him live when he beat up mark coleman in

vegas i never saw him real ass whooping that was a real ass whooping that was hard to watch horrible does it sound like they're booing him or No, no, no, no, no way. No one's booing BJ Ben, bro. Fucking A, man. This is wild. Look at him. He looks thinner, man. He looks like he looks...

Oh, he's way thinner. I mean, they're fighting at 145. You know, BJ fought heavyweight. He fought Lyoto Machida. Yeah, he did. It was over 205. It was called The Rock, correct? No, no, no. The promotion's called The Rock? Is that right? They didn't fight in heavyweight. No, he fought... I mean, he did. In Hawaii. It was over 205. It was called The Rock, correct? No, no, no.

The promotion's called The Rock? Is that right? They didn't fight in heavyweight. No, he fought. I mean, he did fight in Hawaii, Rumble on the Rock. Rumble on the Rock. That's what I'm referring to. But that's not when he fought Lyoto.

He fought Lyoto in Japan. He fought Gomi in Hawaii when Gomi was a legend, and he beat the piss out of Gomi. That's when Gomi was at his best. Look at this. I love BJ Penn. God damn. Look at this. Amazing.

TJ and Joey. I wish I could hear his walkout. That's a living legend right there, folks. Straight up. He is a living legend. Oh, you like Bruce Lee? Yeah, we got BJ Penn. Fight right now.

Yeah. He's actually competing. I'm a big fan of Bruce Lee, too, but I think all this Fight right now. He's actually competing. I'm a big fan of Bruce Lee too, but I think all this Bruce Lee talk is getting out of hand. I agree 100%. He wouldn't last too long in the octagon. People are saying he's the greatest this, the greatest that. He's a very good actor with some really good ideas about martial arts.

Did some great stuff with G. Condo, but however, he never officially competed. There's nothing on record. I think I said this on my podcast, The Fighting Kid, or on record. And then last time, I think I said this on my podcast, The Fighting Kid, or on yours,

I forget, people bombard me with tweets like, how dare you? No, man, I'm stating the facts. I'm sure he's great. He's great.

One of the best ever. Dude, I wear Bruce Lee t-shirts all the time. Me too. I love Bruce Lee. However, you can't talk about him and BJ Penn

in the same sentence. Exactly. Keep it real. One's a warrior. One's an actor, one's a warrior. Yeah, and again, he was hugely important bruce lee is hugely important i'm a huge bruce lee fan he was the original mixed martial artist he was the first guy when i came along in the 1980s when

i was doing martial arts when i first started they still had this issue where people were loyal to their style they still got a lot of that, man. And Bruce Lee was the very first guy, and it was even before I started training, the very first guy who came along and said, that's all nonsense. Like, you should use what's useful. And he built his own style that was based on incorporating all these different martial arts. He also turned martial arts into a business. In Edge of the Dragon, he actually does an armbar, too.

Oh, yeah, he does. Well, he worked out a lot with Gene LaBelle. Oh, he did? Gene LaBelle was on the podcast. He told me some great stories. Wow. That's classic. He was a tiny guy, right? He was like 5'4". 135. About 5'7", I think. 135. Yeah, 5'7". They still really don't know how he died, right? They say he mixed

like aspirin with painkillers. He had a head injury, apparently. Like some sort of aneurysm or something like that. Obviously, you guys don't know about the Chinese mafia. Let's find out. Yeah, I know. That's the other one, right? No, no.

I literally, I Googled it because I was getting so much heat about Bruce Lee. And they said he was at like some director's house. He had a headache. He took aspirin. Then we went home. He took a painkiller and it killed him. Look at Frankie. He always runs in.

And you'll see Mark Henry running right behind him. You see him trying to keep up? There he is. Look. There's your Nintendo controller. Here he comes. Nintendo 64 in the house. Damn, Frankie Edgar.

Holy shit. Here we go. Here we go. Remember those Frankie Ben Henderson fights? Those were so close. I had Frankie beating Ben in Denver. Yeah, I thought he won. Me too.

I thought it was very close, but I thought Frankie won. Man, I can't believe this fight's about to go down. This is so exciting. I can't believe they're fighting again. All right, death. Lee collapsed in Golden Harvest Studios in Hong Kong while doing dubbing work for Enter the Dragon. Suffering from seizures and headaches,

he was immediately rushed to Hong Kong Baptist Hospitals where doctors treated him with chicken bones and voodoo. Well, there's your problem. Diagnosed a cerebral edema. I was like, what? Hong Kong Baptist Hospital. So he had an aneurysm or something, right? Listen like what? Hong Kong Baptist Hospital he had an aneurysm or something Hong Kong Baptist Hospital

he had a cerebral edema they were able to reduce the swelling wow so he had bleeding in the brain wow that's fucked up and then what? so that was in May the same symptoms that occurred

in his first collapse were repeated on the day of his death. 1973, Lee was in Hong Kong to have dinner with James Bond star George Lazenby, whom he intended to make a film. According to Lee's wife, Linda, he met with producer Raymond Chow at 2 p.m. to discuss the making of the film. They worked until 4 p.m. and drove together at home to the home of Lee's colleague.

Ba ba ba ba ba. Three went over the script and then Chow left to attend a dinner meeting. Lee complained of a headache. Team gave him an analgesic painkiller which contained aspirin and a muscle relaxant. Around 7.30 he went to lie down for a nap.

He did not turn up for dinner. She came to the apartment but could not wake him up. A doctor was summoned, spent 10 minutes attempting to revive him before sending him to an ambulance. He was dead at the time he reached the hospital. There's no visible external injury. However, according to autopsy reports, his brain had swollen considerably. So it was probably from fucking brain injuries from getting a beating. Like concussion style?

Could be, man. Dang. Oh, okay. The doctor stated that he had died from an allergic reaction to the muscle relaxant, which he described as a common ingredient in painkillers. When doctors announced Lee's death,

officially it was ruled death by misadventure. Misadventure? So in other words, misadventure is a recreational use of drugs or something? A technical term? Misadventure. Well, that's... Trying to have an adventure. Look at BJ.

Look at BJ. You can see his abs. Never seen that before on BJ. Well, when he fought Diego. He's had them before, yeah. Yeah, but he's obviously in good shape, man. Yeah, man. This is so interesting.

Definitely going for BJ. Never root against BJ. I'm so fascinated right now Me too and I love his shorts Love them To Prodigy I think he was one of the fastest ever to get his black belt Correct? Four years? Three

Not just black belt Won the world championships Won the mundials as a black belt three years after he began training. That's insane. Yeah. That's insane. He was amazing. Well, he had incredible, always had incredible flexibility.

You know, that's one of the benefits that he's always had, dexterity and flexibility in his legs. So instead of just being able to hold you with his arms, he holds dudes with his legs as well. Yeah. Amazing leg. Guys who roll with him, they always come back and they go, his ground game is so freaky

because of his legs. He's on such another level. Have you ever rolled with him or no? No, no. Never have. Here we go. Here we go. This is it.

Oh, my goodness. Oh, boy. Oh, my. Well, Eddie Bravo's got the freakiest legs. You want to talk about leg dexterity? Oh Oh my goodness. Oh boy. Oh my what Eddie Bravo's got the freakiest legs you want to talk about leg does he dirty? Oh my goodness He can do the craziest shit with his legs Put him in places without things that put things that like other people have to do what you have to grab your foot Yeah, Eddie can just do it like a hand. We can do it like a hand and his flexibility is ridiculous

That's cool in certain positions, but it's weird. He doesn't have flexible hamstrings. Here we go, kids. Here we go. Here we go. BJ's opening up with strikes. Look at this. You know how Freddie Roach has worked with all these MMA guys? Look at how tall BJ's standing.

Look how tall he's standing. It's weird. I don't think he's worried about getting taken down. Look at that. Look how tall he's standing. Never seen him do that. It's weird. Weird.

Freddie Roach said BJ has the best boxing he's ever seen for an MMA guy. Yeah. Look at this man Ooh nice left hook there by BJ Dude BJ looks really tall This is really strange Standing right there in the pocket I mean does he want to get taken down?

Dude he looks different than I've ever seen him before So strange Wow He's looking good Nice leg kick by Frankie. When you're that tall, the leg kick's there all night long. So are the takedowns, right? Takedowns especially, but leg kicks are just there.

He's super tall on his tippy toes. Standing up straight. Literally on his tippy toes. Yeah. That is weird. That is so weird. That is weird. He's like he's changed his style.

Frankie's looking for a takedown. He gets it. Maybe he wanted to go to the ground. Maybe. That's the only explanation. Feet on the hips. BJ pushes him off. Leg kicks by Frankie.

Wow, this is crazy to watch. Super interesting. I feel like BJ wants him down there. I'm excited that it's five rounds. Me too. BJ wants to submit him. Frankie went right back to it. You think so?

I do. Why else would you be on your tippy toes inviting a takedown? I don't know if that's it. And he's not kicking to get up either, is he? No. But did you notice that when he was throwing punches, when he's hitting the pads in the preview, he was standing straight up too?

It was weird. Yeah, I just thought it was because... He was just fucking around, right? Yeah. Yeah, I thought so too, but it's almost like he's changed his style a little bit. I wonder if he brought in someone new to work with. He's got a philosophy behind it.

You'd have to, right? You can't just switch it up for no reason I don't know maybe he had a vision Maybe he said come on down to the ground son I was in the ocean I had a vision I took a rock and went under the water Now you sound Now you sound Brazilian

No no So he's not trying to get up No no he's not Now you sound Brazilian. No, no. I'm talking about DJ. He's not trying to get up. No, no, he's not. But Frankie's not trying to let him up either. It's weird. Frankie tried to turn that corner. Back in the guard.

Trying to pass this butterfly guard. DJ has ridiculous guard. Ridiculous guard to pass. But, you know, doesn't get a lot of triangles. Doesn't leave a lot of shit off of his back. He usually gets people's back. He's in the middle of the octagon. There's a lot of triangles. He doesn't. Doesn't get a lot of shit off of his back. Not a lot of arm bars, really, either. Yeah. He usually gets people's back. He's in the middle of the octagon. There's a lot of room to move here. Well, he sweeps guys and takes their back.

Yeah, he always gets their back. Yeah. I mean, he's known for that. Yep. And locking guys up with one arm trapped, he's a master at that. One arm trapped while he's got your back. Good luck. Frankie passes his butterfly.

I'm going to be impressed. Yeah. Look at that. See, he could get up right there. He could literally get up right there. It seems like he doesn't going to be impressed. Yeah. Look at that. See, he could get up right there. He could literally get up right there. It seems like he doesn't want to. Oh. That was badass.

That's Ensign Inouye style. Old school. You ever see that fight, Ensign and Randy Couture? Ensign threw some gangster kicks off of his back from the butt scoot. And then he armbarred Randy. Look at this. Frankie trying to get back in there. Back in there. Again, the same. Look at trying to pass. Look at this. Frankie trying to get back in there. Back in there.

Again, the same. Look at him trying to pass. Look at him trying to pass. Eight and a half. Was Ensign Inoue a Samoan? No, he's Chinese. He was a big Japanese guy. Is he a black guy?

Is that a black guy? Is he Ethiopian? He's about six foot seven. Inoue could be. He was so thick. He was just so thick. He has to be something else besides Japanese. No, he doesn't.

There's a lot of thick Japanese guys. Look at Fujita. Fujita is thick as fuck. Look at Ishii. Yeah. Satoshi Ishii is a fucking real thick dude. Judo champion. Oh, by the way, don't call him Ishii.

Let's refer to him as Satoshi. Oh, really? Learned that after two years of training with him. What is Satoshi? Was Ishii his first name? Is that what it is? And Satoshi is his last name? No, Satoshi is his first name. Ishii, I don't know, like someone gave, I don't know how it works.

Someone's trying to explain. Up we go. Okay, BJ back up. Let's see this. Up right again. Straight up in the air. Weird, good kick to the body by Frankie. Nice switch kick. Why Frankie didn't throw more leg kicks? There we go. Checked one. Great footwork. Look at Frankie, man. Jesus. I wish we could hear Mark Henry right now.

So strange. It is so weird. So strange seeing this style from him. Light on his toes. Very narrow stance. Very narrow stance. The most narrow I've ever seen in the UFC, besides the kid who just got knocked out, who's 6'5". God, that's strange. No, he's more narrow

than that guy. I don't know. That guy was straight upright. Yeah, but BJ's got his feet practically touching each other. BJ's feet are touching each other, and he's tippy-toes. Yeah. Ooh, nice left hook by Frankie. Good combination. Guess what's gonna happen tomorrow? Kids are gonna be in the gym on their tippy-toes. Probably guarantee it. Copycat league.

Man. Peabree. Really interested to see how this plays out. It's weird, man. I gave that first round to Frankie. Frankie took him down. 100%. Frankie definitely landed more shots. BJ was able to stifle him in the guard, but Frankie kicked the shit out of his legs after

he disengaged. Frankie landed more kicks, takedown, controlled him on the ground, although he's trying to pass, didn't happen. See, how did, let's see, how if you're a judge, when it goes to the ground, you can't pass and you do no damage. Yeah. BJ gets no recognition for that, zero as a judge. Yeah, totally true.

Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't mean anything. It means nothing in a fight. Yeah. However, I'm just saying. Right. I know what you're saying. Well, you know what it really is, man?

The system should be 30 points. It should be a 10-point system. It should be a 30-point system. And they should take into account striking, grappling, submissions. All those three things should be taken into account in that maybe 10 points each side. Like maybe one guy gets 10 points for grappling. The other guy gets nine. The other guy gets 10 points for striking.

You know what I mean? Yeah. At what point are they going to make the change? I don't know. I don't think in my lifetime. Oh, I think so. You do? Yeah, I think so.

They're actually looking at some alternative scoring methods now. They've discussed it. I mean, the UFC is very aware of it. I would like to see them do something about the gloves. Can you see Mark Henry in the back yelling? No, I can't see him. Look at him. See him?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's calling out. Non-stop. He wants leg kicks. Interesting fight, man. Interesting so far. I want to see if BJ gets in his groove. He's in good shape, I'll tell you that, man.

In the second round, still looking good Good overhand right with Frankie I like how Frankie does that Goes for the single, makes it look like he's going to struggle for it Disengages and cracks it That's Mark Henry's thing And they did it the first time BJ fought What would they do?

He's so good at defending that single leg They're just attempting it So BJ reacts so they can land a left hook Oh, he tagged him to the right Interesting, very interesting If you're bj though what are you telling him what your corner is just like bj's just walking him down it's interesting he's putting the pressure on but if i say interesting one more time i hit myself i'm fucking mad at myself this fight is interesting it is that's it's the best way to put it. BJ's upright and just kind of walking forward, kind of, I don't know, eating leg kicks.

It's very odd. Well, he's checked a lot of them, too, though, man. He's doing a great job of checking them. I just don't care about that. No, no. There's that right hand again by Frankie. But BJ's walking him down, man, walking him down, walking him down. You ready for my prediction?

Mm-hmm. Fourth round TKO, Frankie Edgar. Another takedown by Frankie. From a right hand. Really? Really? Yep. What makes you say that? I just see some stuff. That's what I think. Wow. fourth round TKO Frankie Edgar another takedown from a right hand from a right hand really what makes you say that I just see some stuff

that's what I think wow what do I know that's a big prediction what do I it is bold bastard bold

you are bold though Brendan Schaub if you're anything you're bold I'm like that A1 sauce but bold bold dog spicy

mmm spicy again feet on the hips see I see this And I'm like Damn that's so dope BJ can control in there

And he can't pass Everyone else like Damn BJ's getting his ass whooped Isn't that weird He doesn't do anything Offensive from his guard It's very rare I don't think he has a single

Armbar victory From the guard In his career What he does is Control guys Stifle them Sweeps them And then takes their back and chokes them.

Like, of all his submissions, what are they? They're almost all rear naked chokes. All rear naked, right? He gets your back. Yeah. Frankie landed a nice right hand there. Isn't that weird? BJ's such a BJJ just ridiculous

skills. And he really only rear naked guys. Like, you're not seeing arm bars, leg attacks. He knows them 100%. He knows all of them. But you have your niche that you do and you get comfortable doing it. Isn't it weird? This is also weird for him to be sitting on his back like this.

I don't know. Some guys just do that. Like Marcelo Garcia, known for rear-nakeds and guillotines. Very rarely do you see Marcelo attempt an arm bar, though he did leg lock Rico Rodriguez in the absolute of Abu Dhabi. Which is crazy. Crazy. Well, Rico was terrified of him.

Remember when he had Rico's back and Rico threw himself back on top of Marcelo? Yeah. 250 pounds of Rico. Yeah. Slammed him. Yeah, which is kind of fucked. Yeah, I think it's weird, man.

It's so strange. Like, you just, you get good, you probably have two moves in your back pocket that are your go-tos. You know the rest, you know how to defend them, but they're not your go-tos. Yeah, there are certain guys that do that over and over. Look at Ronda and her arm bars.

Ronda's arm bars are fucking ridiculous. Like, when she fought Misha Tate, when they did the Ultimate Fighter together, and she said, better get used to wiping your ass with the other hand. She's telling her, I'm going to arm bar you. And what does she do?

Yeah. Arm bars her. Mm-hmm. I mean, incredible. Mm-hmm. It's crazy, man. Yeah. When someone has it,

like, you remember Paul Sass? Oh, yeah. Really good triangles. Yeah, great triangles. He had something like nine triangle victories in a row. Look at Chuck Liddell, arms crossed. Just not into it. Just like, what the hell?

He's probably nodding out. If we see Chuck nod out in the background, I'd be fucked. Boy, this is not the most exciting time. Yeah, BJ's got to be thinking he's two rounds in the hole here, though, no? I mean, Frankie on top of him, two rounds in the hole. Look at this. He's in half guard.

Oh, he's going to sweep him. Oh, he got blasted right there. Blasted. Took some serious shots there. Now he's taking some ground and pound. Dexterity of his legs is ridiculous. So few people can move around like that off their back with their legs. But the bottom line is he's taking a beating, man.

Frankie's on top of him, elbowing the shit out of him here. Oh, damn. Frankie's relentless. Frankie's so tough. I hate seeing this, man. Look at this. I hate seeing BJ Penn get beat up. He is getting beat up, too, man.

Two rounds. BJ's got to come on strong. Look at this. Oh, my goodness. BJ is getting rocked here with these elbows. He's staying calm and everything. Goodness, BJ is getting rocked here with these elbows. He's staying calm and everything.

See, like here, you can, I mean, at his level, you can go for legs here and you can go for ankles. He doesn't do it, though. That's your options there. He doesn't do it. But he knows them. You know him. I'd like to see him in his corner. Look, he's tired. I'd love to hear the corner.

Not this one, the other one. Yeah, interesting. Ricardo Almeida's in his corner too. Great guy. Give us a little volume there, Jamie. Please give us BJ's. BJ's all busted up a little. His cheek, he's taking big

deep breaths now. Two rounds in the hole for Frankie. I remember Ricardo when he was 17 at Hensos. Walking around, just beating everybody up at 17. And big. Oh yeah. He was big. Let me hear this corner.

His face looks like, fuck it. I gotta be honest. That's a face of, you know what, fuck this. Just win this round. That's not advice. Just win this round. face of, you know what, fuck this. Just win this round. That's not advice. Just win this round. He wasn't gonna. What should he say, though, Joe? What can you say? Hey, bro, you are completely getting your ass kicked. Let's try

and revamp everything. You can't. He just took a big deep breath, too. Well, you know, what he's gotta do is he's gotta keep the fight standing or he's gotta take Frankie down and get on top of him. I mean, if BJ gets on top, his top game is nasty. But he just can't hold him in his guard and put his feet on the hips like that. Right hand is going to drop BJ. And he's going to get TKO'd.

So weird. This is getting... This isn't as cool as I thought. It's changing. Now I'm super depressed Yeah that was a beating I was all crunk about it Oh another right hand by Frankie

Frankie's just more active More accurate More unpredictable And more successful so far Look at that nice kick on the transition Looked like he's pulling away Boom lands that kick He does things like

You know like he'll shuffle in for the punches and then the second time he shuffles out he throws a hard kick you know or he looks like he's going to do what he just did and he goes for a takedown mixes shit up so well mixing it up and you think that's all his coach huh a big part of it huh huge part of it very interesting man because when they hit mitts they do it i'd love to watch those guys train. See. I loved his fight with Oliveira. Charles Oliveira.

Oh, I know. That was a great fight. Oliveira, very underrated guy. Dude, what happened to Gray Maynard? He got knocked out by a couple different guys. You had no idea. Nate Diaz knocked him out. But you don't hear from him, right?

You don't really hear much lately. In a grip. His name that was going to fight for the title. I'm just watching this. I'm trying to pay attention while I'm watching this. Frankie is pissed. Sorry, man. TJ Grant.

TJ Grant knocked him out, too. Remember? With an elbow. That's right. Standing elbow. He's a few KOs, and that was after Frankie had knocked him out. So it was like. That right hand is finding the home.

Oh, man. Beautiful combinations by Frankie. The movement was just so good. He's not there for a recoil. Oh, man. He just ragdolled BJ to the ground there. Crazy. BJ's got to do something, man.

He can't just lay here with him in his guard like he's been doing. Frankie trying to pass again. Like, BJ is so comfortable in this position, but it's a terrible position for him. It's almost bad that he's that comfortable here because you're just losing the fight. You can beat up. But it's so weird because, you know, he doesn't have an offensive guard. He doesn't have a guard where he attacks off his back, tries to lock up triangles. He's just impossible to pass.

Well, Frankie's half past here. Yeah, he's about to if he can clear that other foot. Well, look. Nope. Wow, awesome dexterity. It is impressive. Great recovery. It really is.

I love seeing it. It is impressive. Everyone else listening to this is like, this is the most bullshit fight ever. Meanwhile, Frankie's smashing him. More elbows, more elbows. Boom, boom, boom. How is BJ?

Oh, BJ's cut bad now. How is BJ going to go? Oh, he's lighting him up. He's lighting him up. That's nasty. Look at it. It's going into his eye now. I wouldn't be surprised if you're in his corner,

you're throwing the towel. You're dealing with a legend like this? Look at that blood. Oh, Jesus. That's the bloodiest we've ever seen BJ. Yes. He doesn't really cut a lot Well, he's cutting a lot now Frankie keeps targeting that same spot with elbows

And BJ's got two more minutes of this to deal with Oh, another one on the same spot Oh, my goodness BJ's getting fucked up Dude, Herb Dean might stop this fight He's gonna look at the cut Wow Aw, damn

Man BJ just doesn't have an answer He does not have an answer He's gonna look at the cup. Wow. Ah damn. Man. BJ just doesn't have an answer. He does not have an answer. Frankie's been saying- oh my god, he's pounded on him. He's gonna crucifix him. You're not crucifixing BJ and finishing like that. They're just not gonna happen. Dude, look at this. He's getting hit in the head. Bang bang bang. Fucking pounded. He can't stop because of that. He's pounding him, man. What if Frankie submits bang. He can't stop because of that. He's pounding him, man. What if Frankie submits

him? How crazy would that be? What if he gets the mount? Yeah. Jeez, Frankie's just dominating. Oh my god. He's crushing him. He keeps going back to this butterfly guard and just doing nothing. He's not doing anything. Oh, elbow. Oh, another one. He's getting worked. This is crazy to watch.

This is not cool Frankie's a monster man He is a monster He's a monster man He really is Look at him Just fucking ferocious With these punches and elbows

Herb's gonna stop the fight man That's it Holy shit Yeah there's no point That's it BJ Penn Wow Frankie Edgar puts BJ Penn away

Wow Wow Look at that. That is crazy. Wow, that was a rout. That sucked. It was a three-route. Well, it was great for Frankie.

Amazing performance. That's why he was a 10-to-1 favorite? I would guess so. Is he a 10-to-1 favorite? Yeah, well, the opening line, I mean, I don't know what it was when the actual fight went down, but, man, that's hard to watch. Hard to watch. Hard to watch. Hard to watch.

It's crazy, man. They all go down, man. They all go down. Everyone does. Hate to tell you, your favorite fighter, that's going to happen to him one day. Unless he gets out before that happens. Yeah, man. I hope that we've seen the last of certain guys like GSP. I don't want to see him go down

like this. I don't see Anderson go down like this. No. Yeah. Do you think he's going to go down like this again? Do you think Anderson's going to wind up fighting again and fighting someone else? Yep. Look at this. Boom.

Boom. Because they're going to give him a fight. It'll probably be in his favor. He'll win that one. And then you get some demon who's not going to be down like that, you know? Do you remember when he was coming out for the Weidman fight, the second fight, and he paused during his walk-in? That was weird.

He got down on his knees. He squatted and just sat there, almost like he was having a hard time breathing, trying to keep it together. That was weird, right? Recollect himself. Yeah. Well, it's just the fucking nerves, man. Knowing that you're about to go in there against this dude who's made out of concrete.

Tell me about it, especially at heavyweight. I feel like I'm not saying it, but it is. I am saying it's different. Heavyweight's different. Because they can crack you with one shot. Because you're going in, you're just like, all right, well, this guy's 265 pounds. Literally, if I make an error, it's over, and I'm going to get really, really hurt. So at heavyweight, it's just different, man.

Like, the nerves are different you're dealing with. That's scary. What's the guy that hit you the hardest, you think? Hardest in my life? Everyone said Roy Nelson, who I got knocked out by. He hit me behind the ear, so it wasn't that hard. Same with Nogueira. I would say...

Rothwell? No. No? That's the lightest I've ever been hit and went out. And the reason was I was sparring with Shane Carman the week before and got wobbled with a left hook, almost knocked out basically, and then fought. That's why that shot put me down.

Wow. Because if you look, Rothwell really doesn't hit me that hard. I'm like flailing, trying to put him away, and he just like clips me in the back of the ear and I fall down. Yeah, I was rocked before that fight. Wow. That happens all the time, right? All the time.

And at heavyweight, it's a different bird. I would say who rocked me where I kept going would be probably LeVar Johnson. He hit me with the uppercut, and it literally almost ripped my lips off. Wow. I was just like, good Lord. He's a banger, huh? Yeah, a banger. That guy can hit. Yeah, he was like put on this earth to knock bitches out. He's a strong motherfucker. It might have been a boring fight, but it put a wrestling clinic on his big ass. And he tested positive for steroids. Yeah, he did, right?

A wrestling clinic. Well, that's it. Wrestling 101. The end of the BJ Penn career, man. I think we've seen the end, right? Well, now I'm super depressed. I am? No. It wasn't fun to watch, man.

It wasn't cool to watch. Did not end on a high note. I was hoping it would be a competitive fight, but that wasn't. You just don't want to see that, man. That shit sucks. Yeah, that was awful. I'm all out of Bulletproof Coffee. BJ Penn got his ass whooped.

There's another little thing to that. Yeah, I know. I got to sleep tonight. I went to Zoo Man. He did some weird stuff. I need sleep. I need sleep, man. Man.

It's tough to watch. When I was a kid, I watched Donald Curry, who's a big fan of mine, fight Mike McCallum. You remember Mike McCallum, the body snatcher? No. You don't remember him? No. Middleweight champion. Bad motherfucker.

And Mike McCallum hit Donald Curry with a left hook to the body and then a left hook and knocked Donald curry the fuck out donald curry went out flat on his back and i was so depressed i just put on my fucking shoes and went running i don't know it was cold i was like i was living in boston i just ran down the street it just went running i couldn't take it i was just so depressed and then i remember deciding at that moment i'm never gonna get depressed when a fighter loses ever again. I'm never going to invest. You're never going to let it affect you that way.

I can't. I can't let it affect me like that. I remember deciding that because I was so bummed out. I took it so personally. That happens to a lot of people. It happens to me. When I found out or lost to get the main event against Bigfoot, I went and ran probably six miles.

I get super stressed out and sad about it because that should have been me. I didn't know what to do, so I just went and hit the gym running. Let's talk about that because Bigfoot's a weird situation, man, because Bigfoot has a real issue. He's got a tumor on his pituitary gland. He has giantism, gigantism, I guess, which made him... I mean, they had to give him... At one point in time in his career, he was over 300 pounds.

Yeah, he cut to 65. Yeah, he used to cut down to 265. He was fucking enormous. Shredded, too. Shredded. Yeah. When he fought Arlovsky, when he fought Fedor. What?

Yeah. Shredded. Huge. He was absolutely gigantic. When he fought Arlovsky, he fought Arlovsky? Oh, yeah. When? Yeah, they fought in Strikeforce.

Or it might have been Elite XC. It was Elite XC. How did he do? He won in a controversial decision. But it was a good fight. Really? He won. It might have been a decision, but he won for sure. Listen, Bigfoot. Look at that cut.

My God. It was pretty bad. Bigfoot on those stuff, though. Just because he has an issue doesn't make it okay that he takes stuff. No. Because this is, you want to make it fair?

Say, all right, Orlowski, you can take whatever he's taking. Right. That would be fair. Well, the only problem with that, of course,

is that when you, you know, when you tell a guy that can take hormones, especially if you don't really need them naturally, if your body's healthy, you're going to fuck your whole endocrine system up. Your system's not going to know what's going on.

All right. Yes. So it's irresponsible. It's irresponsible. At the same time, you're fighting a guy who is on different supplements to enhance his fighting career than you are, and you can't do anything about it.

Right. And he has a past to do this? Mm-hmm. Oh, and they're fighting in Brazil? Weird. Weird. What's going on? You're fighting in Brazil, Bigfoot in Brazil.

Orlovsky, this is not a gift. This is a punishment. Do you think that when he gets down there that, I mean, is it possible for Bigfoot to fight clean? That's the real question. Nope. Not possible. Nope, not possible. With his condition Not possible. Nope, not possible.

With his condition and stuff like that, not possible. And he's been on it his entire career, and they want to get him off? They want to rank him in the top five? Good luck. Good luck. So what happens? There's a reason to fight him in Brazil. So you think he's going to juice up?

I think so. Wow, interesting. I think so. Listen, and this is what I would have done if the UFC said, hey, why don't you fight Bigfoot in Brazil? Say, listen, I'll fight Bigfoot. No problem. I want to fight him in Vegas or California with a drug testing strict.

All right, he doesn't eat this stuff. That's fine. That's fair game. However, I want it regulated. I want random tests to make sure he's not overdoing it. Because that's what guys are doing. Let's be real here, man. Right.

Fuck that noise. Yeah. Well, what do you think about Vitor now? Because Vitor is going to- And he's going to get a title shot. But Weidman, that ain't no picnic, bro. No. Him fighting Weidman.

No. Coming off the sauce and fighting Weidman. I know, man. Have you seen photos of Vitor? Have you seen video of him lately? No. He does not look the same. He doesn't?

He does not look the same. He looks much smaller. He's going to probably get destroyed, man. Yeah, he looks like he almost can make welterweight. Dang. Wow. Yeah. Takes a size 9 shoe.

He's got small hands and feet. Yeah, he's not the biggest guy in the world. He's had a lot of broken hands because of that. Ooh, his wife is a diabetes. You like that, huh? You like that. Look at you. Sorry, man.

Easy. Yeah, with the Bigfoot stuff, it's tough, man. It's tough. You almost want to say, all right, if you can't fight without taking this stuff, you should probably stop fighting. You know what I'm saying? It's not fair. Either way you paint it, even if he needs the stuff, it's not fair because the other guys aren't on it.

And that is the truth. It's not. If you can't fight without it, you really should stop fighting because a lot of the reasons why these people need that stuff is because of head injuries or cheating or you used to do steroids. You used to cheat. Whatever the reason is, if I fight Bigfoot Silva, and he's all juiced up on whatever cocktail he has in Brazil that I'm not on,

you punch me in the face, and I suffer horrible brain trauma because you were sauced up. Or how about I punch him as hard as I can? Dude, there's about two guys in this world who can take a Mark Hunt punch to the face. Roy Nelson, who he's fighting in September, and Bigfoot Silva juiced up. Only juiced up. He's not taking his mate. Well, his head is enormous, so it probably helps him.

However juiced up, it's helping him. You can't sit in the pocket with Mark Hunt. No one in this world can except for those two guys. I wonder if it did help him because if you know the whole story, Hunt fought Bigfoot, and they had this incredible war. But then it turns out they tested Bigfoot after the fight. He was on testosterone replacement. They tested him before the fight.

He was at normal levels. They tested him after the fight. Jacked to the roof. Took some stuff in the locker room, maybe. Allegedly. And he blamed his doctor. Yeah, blamed his doctor, which is crazy. His doctor's going to sue him.

He said he was going to sue him. I don't know. Who knows what the fuck happened. Either way, he illegally took stuff. He said he was going to sue him. I don't know. Who knows what the fuck happened. Either way, he illegally took stuff. He definitely had elevated testosterone and he definitely had a tremendous ability to absorb punishment.

It didn't show in the Cormier fight. Cormier put him away. Kane put him away. Kane lit him up and dropped him and put him away quick in their fight. Mark Hunt hits harder than both of them combined. There's no one in this heavyweight division that hits harder than Mark Hunt in the world. There's just not. Isn't that fascinating that testosterone could do that for you?

It's crazy. All you have to do is just go in there with hyper-elevated levels. So take out the part that he has fucking giganticism. You know what I'm saying? That he's an absolute monster. Giganticism. But now he can absorb punches and hit harder and better cardio. Fuck.

If you're doing EPO and everything, you assume he's also doing that. I don't know. Listen, if you're open to this cocktail, if you love whiskey, you're not going to turn down vodka. You're going to do whatever. Yeah, that is the question. You guys believe that I don't do anything? No, I think you're on. He had to bring it back to himself.

That is the question. It's like how many guys are on things? This is the thing, Joe. If you're open to put these supplements in your body, why wouldn't you be open to putting these other supplements in your body? Of course. You're not just like, well, I'll do this, but I've got to stay at this limit. And they're like, well, if you do this, you're really going to be a badass.

No, that's just ethically wrong. Yeah. If you're putting a needle in your ass, what do you care if it's filled halfway or full? You know what I'm saying? That's true. Yeah, that is true. I mean, and a guy like Chael, I mean, that pretty much proves it. You know, Chael had his reasons why he said that he took those first two supplements.

And then it turns out that they have this incredibly detailed testing that Lorenzo pays for that's $45,000 per fighter. And they're taking this. This is a crazy thing. They take the blood, rather. They take a test from you, and then the guy has a direct chain of custody. So he's taking this, flying with this blood to the place where they're testing it. That's nuts. He's like a notary.

Yeah. I mean, well, he's basically like the guy carrying the fucking nuclear codes. You know, he's flying with it in his possession at all times, gets to the lab, so it's never left his possession, and then they test it. And, you know, they test it. That's how Chael got busted for all that stuff. Mm-hmm. EPO and HGH, which the athletic commissions were not testing for because it's fucking

expensive as shit. Yeah. You know, if they had to pay every... Look, if a fighter's getting paid eight grand, eight and eight, eight to win, eight to show, and it's cost $45,000 to test them, something's crazy. That's why only the superstars can get caught because you're paying the superstars so much money,

it's worth it to risk it. Yeah. Is it worth it now? Because now we just lost one of the biggest faces of the UFC who could talk people into liking the UFC. Yeah. Is it, though? I don't think it's worth it. Well, what is? could talk people into liking the UFC. Yeah. Is it, though? I don't think it's worth it.

Well, what is? Because he's not the only one. No. It's like baseball. People figure out Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa. You dumb fucks. All the pitchers were on it. So it's a fair game.

Lance Armstrong. Listen, when he tested positive, they had to go back to 15th place to find a guy who didn't test positive. It's a level playing field if everyone's on it, you fucks, you know what I'm saying? Sort of, but it's kind of, well, it's like, especially in combat sports, like, well, it's dangerous.

Well, so is getting punched in the face. Yeah. You know, that's pretty dangerous too. Super dangerous. It also keeps your career, you can fight longer, you can play longer. Yeah. You know, you're not hitting a fastball

if your bat speed slows down a lot of times in the major leagues. But you can make $20 more million and play for five years if you take some stuff. Ryan Braun? Ryan Braun got busted and ratted out everyone saying how he was against stuff. That guy made $144 million. Went to fucking Costa Rica while he was suspended.

Came back. He's fine. Why wouldn't I do it? I'm balls deep in Costa Rican bitches. $140 million in the bank. Right. Everyone forgets. He got a stand ovation when he went back to Milwaukee. Really?

Like, yeah, he's back. Hey, guys. Took a year off. Recuperated my body. Rich as shit. Yeah. And you stay injury-free, though. $144 million.

Guaranteed. Yeah, he made a fortune. Guaranteed. And so they don't take any of that away from you when you test positive for drugs and rat out your friends? Maybe like $10 million. Who gives a fuck? You rat it out. You rat it out.

You rat it out. That's so gross, though, isn't it? Well, that's an issue with Chael as well. They're bringing in the federal guys, so they're going to ask him questions. Where'd you get the EPO? Especially EPO. That is a motherfucker. That's a super, super illegal thing.

Yeah, you have that stuff. All of it's not good, man. EPO, HEH, testosterone, whatever else is on. But HEH is normal. You could find that. EPO is tricky. It's very dangerous. They always say nobody went to jail for taking steroids, but you go to jail for lying to the feds.

You go to jail for lying. You go to jail for lying and you go to jail for selling it in mass distributions. Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see what happens with shale. I mean, I don't know where the fuck he got it from, but Brian Stan was talking about it. Like, you know, that he had a conversation with shale. He's like, you better be forthcoming when they come to you and they ask you questions. That is where you can't lie to them.

Listen, if Brian Stan tells me something, as far as the government goes, I'm for sure listening. I'm definitely, yes, sir. I'm calling him, sir, too. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Why are you calling me, sir? I don't know. I'm really freaked out right now. I'm really freaked out right now. I'm for sure listening. I'm definitely, yes, sir. I'm calling him sir, too. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Why are you calling me sir? I don't know.

I'm really freaked out right now. I'm really freaked out right now. I'm freaked out. Can you just come back to my hotel room and talk to me? If I had to ask you. Can you talk me to sleep? You're the inside guy here more than any of us, right? If I had to ask you, how many guys do you think, what percentage of guys are taking HGH?

There's a headline going to be tomorrow. Okay, no, no. Shop thinks everyone's on shit. I'm just going to fight Bigfoot only in Denver. are taking HGH. There's a headline you'll be tomorrow. Shop thinks everyone's on shit. Refuses to fight Bigfoot. Only in Denver. I'm just going to say some numbers and you just give me facial expressions that don't necessarily confirm nor deny. Okay?

60%. 70%. Wow. We're going to stop there. That's amazing. When I fought LeVar Johnson, for instance, we went on the scales. 70%. Wow. We're going to stop there. I don't want it to be. That's amazing. I don't even, yeah. Like when I fought LeVar Johnson, for instance, we went on the scales, and we get off, I turn to my coach, I go, come on, bro. He's obviously on stuff.

I just assumed. Everyone's like, bro, he's jacked. I'm like, yeah, I know. Literally, I just assume he's on shit. I assume he's on HGH. I assume he's on testosterone. It's just part of the game we play, which is fucking insane. Because he hit me with this 30% uppercut, and I was in la-la land, almost ripped my fucking lips off.

30% uppercut. 30% because I went with it. You know what I'm saying? That thing lands, my jaw's all shattered. I'm fucking Kanye West style, slurping my dinner and shit. What happened to Kanye West? Was it a car accident? He got shot, I think, right?

And broke his jaw or something. Was it? Car accident. What? I like to figure a gangster shot. I made that up. He's not a gangster. I assumed.

I assumed. He wears like Gucci loafers and shit. Oh, he's a gangster. I don't know. Sports are crazy. Listen, it's just not the UFC. We're talking about it's just a UFC problem. This is everything.

Watch the NFL Network. The bottom of the screen goes, Jordan Dixon gets spent for enhancing performance enhancers. It happens all the time, but they don't make a big deal of it. Right. It's like, literally, you don't hear about it. You didn't hear about it on SportsCenter. Well, no one gets tested more than combat athletes, but in my opinion. But it's weird.

They make such a big deal of it. Well, here's the reason. These other sports, they don't. Because if you're better because of performance-enhancing drugs, you're better performing by... You're better at hitting a ball. You're better at throwing a ball. You're better at doing sports.

But you're not better at beating the fuck out of a person and causing damage to their brain. And definitely taking years off their life. We saw A-Rod last night in Vegas. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I've always liked him. Had a couple of gals with him.

Looks like he's having a good old time. What the fuck? This guy was at the bar. Two blonde dime pieces who I was going to go up to and kind of snag myself. Good thing I didn't. Because they've been like, huh? Get the fuck out of here. You know what kind of money A-Rod's paying us?

Get the fuck out of here. He's in the suite. Oh, I'm in the cellar. I'm sorry. I'm down below. I'm down below in New York, New York, literally in the subway. But I gotta tell you, if I was A-Rod, I would be like, hey, girls, here, my eyes are up here. Look at me.

They did have the hungry eyes for Big Brown, huh? They were looking at me. They were looking at me, dog. You got a little wave. I still got it, son. You got a wave. Hey, A-Rod, your girls were looking. Well, let's talk about that.

They like the merchandise. There's a difference. There's a difference between an athlete and a fighter. When there's a bunch of athletes, but then the fighter walks in the room, the stakes have been changed. For sure. Alpha male in the house. Oh, cool. Oh, cool.

You hit a little white ball? That's awesome. I'll snap your fucking neck. That's great. I wish I could say that. I'll snap your neck and then fuck the two girls you brought. Yeah, and you can't do anything about it. Look at Brian. I wish I could say that. I'll snap your neck and then fuck the two girls you brought. Yeah, and you can't

do anything about it. Look at Brian. I wish I could do that. I know, I'm all jealous. His feet are twisting up inside of his shoes right now. His toes are curling up

and sweaty. It's not the Boston Red Sox, motherfucker. Old snap your neck and take your girls. Is there a single like sport that commands more respect in that sense?

Not even close. Not even boxing, right? Not even close. Not even close, right? Not even close. Because MMA people really can't, they're even like, what? Well, look at fucking Floyd Mayweather. He's compared to Ronda Rousey. And everybody says Ronda Rousey would beat his ass in a street fight. Beat the shit out of everyone. I mean, I think she would.

I really do. 100% she would. You look at that last fight. I'm not mad at BJ's girl, either. She's very pretty, but look at poor BJ, man. That is rough. She looked at BJ, I looked at his girl. Wow, man. It's hard to watch, look at poor BJ, man. That is rough. See, that's the difference between us. You looked at BJ, I looked at his girl. Wow, man. It's hard to watch, man. The worst, man.

I love that guy. Hard to watch, man. You know, now he's got to go home to his kids like that. I mean, that was something that he said when he fought Nick Diaz. I was talking to him. He's like, I can't keep going home to my children looking like this. That's a beast, man. Kids are scared of me, you know.

Dan Cormier once again, kids. I hate when I lose. I hate being around my neighbors. I'm like, damn, sorry, man. Do they scared of me, you know. Dan Cormier once again, kids. I hate when I lose. I hate being around my neighbors. I'm like, damn, sorry, man. Do they talk to you? And I hate my neighbors. I hate them. But I walk in, I'm like, fuck, sorry, bro.

I can't stand my neighbors. That's hilarious. We hate each other. Really? Yeah. What's it about? Because they're 50 and act like they're 30 and they party and do drugs and keep me up when I'm in camp.

Oh, no. And the guy knows who I am. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, bro. I just talked about snapping A-Rod's neck. What do you think I'll do to you? They're 50 and they party all night? Party, do drugs, coke, banging on the walls.

They yell at me when I bang on the walls. I'm moving out of there, by the way, though. Things are moving up. No, my place is super nice, Doug. My place is super nice. It's super nice, but they're just whatever. I don't know. So you guys bang on the walls with each other?

I bang on the walls, and she yells at me. All right, I hear you. I'll turn it down. Oh, my God. Cheeto fingers. I went over there. I gave them a motivational talk. It didn't work.

You gave them a motivational talk? Yeah, how they need to clean their life up and stop being Cheetos and get a job. Did you really? No, I didn't. No, I you really? No, I didn't. I'll do that. $49.95, I'll come to your house with Cheeto fingers. When you're in mid-camp and you're fucking training your ass off and you're constantly exhausted and constantly pushing it, do you look at this like, man, there's only a certain amount of years I can do this?

No, I don't. I think once you start thinking that, you're fucked. I think you're right. Because they told me, I've heard about it, I'm not going to mention names, a fellow heavyweight who was going through camp recently and was like, fuck this, man, this sucks. Guess who doesn't say that in camp? Me.

I'm like, fuck, man. All I think about is what I did wrong. I'm usually like, fuck, I got to do this, I got to do this, I got to do this. I constantly think how I can get better. Well, wrong I'm usually like Fuck I gotta do this I gotta do this I gotta do this I constantly think How I can get better Well you're very self-motivated too You're not a guy

Who needs someone To wake you up Fuck no Cause guess what Cause if you have to Have someone yell at you To motivate you And make you successful

Someone's gonna yell at you While you're fucking Getting your ass whooped You don't want that You know who else Is self-motivated Brian Callen That's right ladies and gentlemen

He gets up. He pretends to work out. Yeah. Does tight jeans. He's got boxing tomorrow. Does some kipping. Big old Wayne McCullough. Kipping chin-ups.

Da, da, da, da. Hands are getting fast. Yeah, man. Life's crazy. Runs up the hill and gets tired. That's it, guys. I'm going to go to bed. Get up early.

Are you? What time are you working out tomorrow? Train, do my meditation, read Nietzsche. Do you read Nietzsche? No. No, not at all. Just like the way it sounds. It's a good thing to say to chicks if you try to impress them.

Get into my horse stance. It's a classic story. First time I ever went to Brian's house, he had some fucking catcher in the rye or some shit open on his coffee table. I go, you don't read that. I read books. You put that out there. When chicks come over to impress him, he goes, get rye sure i tell a story about that my stand-up just laying books around

like i was she was like really smart she went to prince and i was like oh look hemingway i don't know i guess i read it sir when i'm not are you reading the dictionary when i'm not on tv i read hemingway trying to be all smart god i think someone picked up in a book something i picked up in a book kids because i'm white wh a book, kids. Because I'm white. W-H-I-T. Do you ever read books about training, about mental toughness or that shit? Yeah. A lot of people do, right? Yeah, I read a lot of mental books, mental toughness. I read a lot of military stuff.

Really? What? Because if you can picture how military guys, like Navy SEALs, what they go through and the mind frame they get in, what we do is nothing compared to them. You've got to think about the nerves the Navy SEALs deal with before they go through in the mind frame they get in what we do is nothing compared to them right you got to think about the nerves the navy seals dealing with before they go into war and they talk about the breathing technique and the mentality they have especially when they're going through like boot camp and the navy seal selection which is insane because one of like 99 makes the cut i'm saying the guys who make it and the the guys who run it say they can always tell who's going to make it because I guess they talk to them, interview them after each day.

And the one, you know, guys would be like, yeah, man, there's only three weeks left. If I can just get through these three weeks. They say when that guy walks out of the room, like, he's fucked. He's not going to make it. Then when another guy comes in the room, he's like, I'm just trying to get through tomorrow, man. I'm just trying to get through tomorrow. I literally take it one drill at a time. I go, just get through this drill and take the next drill.

And it's the same thing in fighting. And that's what I do. I never look at the grand scheme of things. I never do. Like, I'll wake up and like, all right, you got five rounds of sparring. Let's do this first round. And then I look at the second round, third, fourth, fifth. That's interesting.

But if you look at the grand scheme, like, oh, man, I got 12 weeks to get ready for this fight. You think about the 12 weeks? What the fuck? It's a lot of work, man, I got 12 weeks to get ready for this fight. You think about the 12 weeks? What the fuck? It's a lot of work, man. You're going to be overwhelmed. You're not going to be focused at your best breaking it down individually. That's interesting. But what about, like, the overall game?

Like, if you look at your overall mixed martial arts game and trying to improve and trying to compare all these things, do you, like, have, like, an overall, like, assessment of, like, six six weeks i would like to look like this seven weeks in i would like to be at these numbers i'd like to be doing these rounds i'd like to be doing do you have like like things no because i because cardio has never been a huge issue for me like i always get in crazy shape i the one thing i do have like as a marker, like a numerical marker, is my resting heart rate. If I'm above 40, I freak out. I'm usually around 37, 38 when I'm in phenomenal shape, which beats Michael Phelps and Hussein Bolt, by the way. Wow.

Yeah. So when I'm like 37, for Mitriona, I get down, I think 36, 37 is like the best I've ever been. Jesus Christ. It's crazy, right? What gets your heart rate there? Like what is like- Just being in phenomenal shape, man.

What is the best thing that you do? What do you attribute that to? What kind of workout condition? I don't know if I can put to one thing. I'll just say the tempo I set non-stop. And then I finish my week off by running on the track, doing these long sprints where we monitor my heart rate.

So when it goes... I'll end my heart rate be like 188. As soon as it gets down to 140, I'm running again. Wow. I'd say that does it, yeah. As soon as it gets down to 140. 140.

Wow. As soon as it hits 140, that's my rest. That's not very low. It's not very low. No. Yeah. So you just eat.

That's where I get my confidence from though, man. Because I'm fucking terrified. And I'll be honest, I suffer a little bit from body issues too, man. Because I'm not like super ripped. So that's why I'm always on a diet. Like tomorrow, I'll be honest, I suffer a little bit from body issues too, man. Because I'm not like super ripped. So that's why I'm always on a diet. Like tomorrow, I'm going on a four-day juicing cleanse.

I'm just going to drink a juice for four days. Had some donuts. Had some donuts at the airport. Yeah, like shit, and I'm going to go on this four-day cleanse. And Wendy's. Yeah. You ate Wendy's? Yeah, I did.

First time I've had fast food in probably eight years. It's all right. It's all right. I gave it a nod. Yeah. You hungry and tired, and you did some drinking this weekend? Yeah. A little craziness?

A little humanity. A little crazy. A little humanity. So when you say body issues, like you feel weird when you take your shirt off inside the octagon, like that kind of thing? No, not really inside the octagon. Like when I'm out of camp, it's rare you'll see me with my shirt off, which I'm always in good shape.

I would never wear clothes if I had your body. It's weird, right? It's weird. see me with my shirt off, which I'm always in good shape. I would never wear clothes if I had your body. It's weird, right? It's weird. I'd wear cloth. Listen, you talk to Ariane. I'm sure there's something she doesn't like on her body. Everyone suffers from it. For me, though, it's just like when you're looked at as an elite athlete,

I never want people to see me not in shape, which I am in shape, but I don't want people to see me out of my peak. But you see a guy like Fedor always had kind of like a little bit of a gut, you know, always like. He just didn't give a fuck. He was just like, whatever. I'm going to. He had no ass, a gut, just balding, was like, fuck it.

Wasn't worried at all about the way he looked. I know, it's different. It's different. I know. Don't you wish you could be like that? I guess. Yeah. Hell yeah, I do.

Okay. Well, what, do you think like maybe if you like thought the way he thinks i mean is there a way to like emulate that sort of a mindset or program yourself no like that no you do culturally what what is considered manly he also doesn't he also doesn't care like i care how i look i'm very vain i like fast cars bad bitches and i live on the beach he he he lives in Russia, wrestles grizzly bears, drinks fucking beer, and fucking eats potatoes, and has a

gut hanging over his belt, and probably fucking Gertrude has fucking hair hanging out of her armpit, you know what I'm saying? We're both not really a Russian name. We're very different. We're very different. I don't think it has anything to do with being successful or not i

think i'm some of the biggest stars i know most successful people i know are very self-conscious really big time in in mma mma nfl certainly acting well who in please don't ever use acting with mma well i'm just not not saying stars though i'm saying like i understand but please you hurt my soul please sir put sir. Put that together. Sir. Do you, like, what athletes do you think in MMA are, like, real self-conscious like that? Certain ones. You don't want to talk about it? Nope. Not at all.

I'll tell you off air, though. Okay. Well, let's wrap this bitch up. This is another fucking fun fight companion, man. Great, man. Awesome. I wanted to talk a little while at the end just to alleviate some depression. For sure, man.

I was super down. I was going to crash Brian's facade into the end just to alleviate some depression. For sure, man. I was super down. I was going to crash Brian's Passat into the wall and not pay for it. And not pay for it. It's not surprising, but it kind of is anyway. You just don't want to see that shit. Alright, folks. When are we going to do this again?

When's the next one? Let's find out right now. When's the next one? And will you bring your boy, Joey Diaz? I would try. I love that, man. I want to laugh. Joey Diaz. Although you guys make me laugh. Let's find out what the schedule is. Real quick, Brian had a nose job, everybody. Hey, guys, Wednesday, July

16th. Who's where? Where are you guys at? I'm here. You bet your ass on it. Fuck yeah. Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller. Donald Cerrone, my boy. That's the next one. And it's a Wednesday night. So Wednesday. No one has shit to do. July 16th.

I'm going to try real hard to get Joey Diaz in here. Evan Dunham and Edson Barboza. Damn, that's a good fight. Also in that fight. Yeah. Good fights. Yeah. Should be very exciting.

So, all right, you dirty freaks. We'll see you then. Until then, Brian Callen on Twitter. B-R-Y A-N-C-A-L-L-E-N-N Brendan Shaw that's S-C-H-A-U-B a.k.a.

Big Brown. Can you get Big Brown on Twitter? I don't know. I'm trying to find Big Brown. Please stop sending me dick pics. How many people send you dick pics? I probably get eight a week. That's how you know you made it. Do I check them out? Yeah. That's how you know you made it. That's how you know you made it. Do I check them out? Yeah.

Come see me in West Palm. We will see you with a real podcast tomorrow. Until then, much love and big kiss. Bye-bye.