The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - June 20, 2015

Episode Date: June 20, 2015

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub, Bryan Callen, and Tony Hinchcliffe to watch the fights on June 20, 2015.

companion podcast if you never heard one of these podcasts before don't expect us to even pay attention to the fights sometimes we do and sometimes we don't think oh great joe's gonna do commentary no brendan's not doing commentary calum's not doing commentary i will do commentary because i know nothing about the fights he'll pretend that he uh is giving strategy advice that wouldn't really work exactly but uh what we do is we watch the fights, and you can sync it up. Right now, it's the first fight. Who is this? This is Hein and, boy, try saying this name.

Is that Hein? Nick Hein versus Lukasz Sajewski. Yeah. Sajewski. There he is. There's Lukasz Sajewski, who's my favorite fighter who ends in a ski. There he is. There's Lukasz Sejuski, who's my favorite fighter who ends in a ski. There he is. This is the first fight on the

main card. Who's that guy there? The guy on the left. Yeah. Fabulous Viking character with tattooed thumbs. It's a great look. He's not tall. Tattooed thumb. He's got tattooed thumbs. He's built a little like me. Running out there is Lukasz.

Like I said, we might talk about this fight or it might be diarrhea talk. Maybe. Sex, drugs, and podcasts. That your new shirt? Yeah. Nice.

Fighter and the Kid, killing it. Thank you to Brendan Schaub, our designer, our chief designer. Fighterandthekid.com. I go like this. He asks me my opinion. I go, I don't know, maybe. And he goes, oh, I'm not asking your opinion just showing

them to you I'm like I have an opinion I said I said you have the fashion sense of Anne Frank very interesting Holocaust reference that was I was very surprised that you can't see what she's wearing very similar to you well no no now now you're you're confusing Anne Frank with Helen Keller. That's right Shit and Frank would be great if you were wearing camo in an attic right exactly Anne Frank. And that's it. Yeah.

I knew you were thinking of Helen Keller. You knew what I meant, though. And I should have just kept my mouth shut. But the problem is, Anne Frank, though, it would work with Anne Frank because she probably wore just one dowdy dress because she had to live in an attic for a year. Damn, Hein is ripped. No, he's a big kid. The kid's in good shape. Yes, he is.

Roger Wurta in his corner. See that? Oh, yeah. He's a Tiger Muay Thai guy. He was also a policeman. Tiger Muay Thai apparently is just a fucking banging gym over in Phuket, Thailand. They just have an amazing camp there. There's a couple camps down now.

AKA has a big camp there. Yeah, Mike Swick's down there, right? Yep. Mike Swick. And that's Soul Hulk. Yeah, and I wonder why Mike Swick decided to move his camp to Thailand. Oh, shit. Tony Hinchcliffe's here.

I didn't know this. What a surprise. What's up, man? What's going on? Good to see you. A nice surprise. Tony, why don't you lock us in since you're the last one in? So no one comes in here looking for...

Yeah. I think for Swick, it's a business decision, right? Like he was going to open a gym and then... But why Thailand? I mean, he has a family. I don't know why the fuck he decided to go to Thailand. I forgot he had a family. I thought he was like wiling out on the girls in the gyms.

That sounds fun. Phuket I hear amazing things about. That's what I hear. And when I shot a little movie called Hangover 2, all the stunt guys and most of the just tough guys around were all professional or aspiring professional Muay Thai guys who spoke, I think, a little bit about training in Phuket. Muay Thai guys who spoke, I think, a little bit about training in Phuket. Yeah, that area, like I said, it's got those two gyms, and it's supposed to be like a really cool tourist area, too. It's supposed to be beautiful.

Yep. It's spelled P-H-E-T, which would be fuck it. Tony motherfucking H. Cliff. Sounds like a great plan. Lighting bitches on fire last night at the comedy store, then shows up for the fight companion. Funny man. Because he's in love with Joanna Jerkadick. How do you say that? I'd say Jerkadick. I took some E for that, too. Did you? Oh, yeah. Jerkadick. Comedy store then shows up for the fight companion funny knows he's in love with Joanna jerk

I'd say jerk a dick. I took some heat for that dude. Oh, yeah from the boss no Have a boss right now by the way get used to that great feeling If you say jerky dick in front of Tony, he might get upset. I get a little offended. We've been over this. I wish we could respect Johanna. I do.

She's the best in the world. Well, maybe you should know how to say her fucking name before you tell people to respect her. Jencechek. Johanna. Not Johanna. Johanna? And how do you say her last name? Jencechek? Jencechek.

Jencechek. Oh, I like that. Johanna Jencechek. The way she has it, there's like a little bit of an ooh in there. It's Jenceacek. Yen Jacek. Ooh, I like that. Yowana Yen Jacek. The way she has it, there's like a little bit of an ooh in there. It's Yen Jacek. I just call her JJ. Her friends call her JJ. Have you ever forgotten?

Do they call her JJ? No, I made that up. Oh, you should. That's good. JJ is good. Oh, you're talking about JJ, the champ, JJ? He's GSP. It's not even tough to say George St. Pierre, and everybody was saying GSP.

It's too long. Have you ever, when you are calling fights, do you ever... Guys, guys, seriously, guys. Okay, first fight's about to start. If you're going to sync this up, I'll let you know right when they touch gloves, now they touch gloves. Yeah.

So the clock right now, the moment they show the clock, we'll let you guys know so you can sync it up. We call this feeling the guy out with 448 447 446 445. Okay, so there you go now you synced up Because the internet runs about 10 seconds at least behind depending on where you are The ustream feed will run about 10 seconds behind great hand on that dude. Can you tell he trains in Thailand?

Lucas is going after it. Yeah, you can't help it. He's got the kind of skin that smolders. Isn't it interesting that tan like that is actually good for your body and your endurance and the way your body makes muscle? Really? Yeah, it's anabolic. Vitamin D and your production of vitamin D and AIDS and the anabolic process, that's why a lot of fighters get tans.

I do. Steve Maxwell told me that. Yeah, but you were just a sexy bitch. I would get tans. Yeah, I do Steve Maxwell told me that yeah, but you were just sexy bitch Yeah, I would get tan cuz I'm a Very vain And you don't mind wrinkles. No me no on the face. You like that fucking leather dole look well I Do dye my beard my sister looked at me the other day and she goes, Ooh, your face looks like it needs lots of water. That's not good.

Your sister's mean. She's hilarious but mean. She's very smart. Yes, she is. Yes. You guys get along very well. We did. We got along great at your daughter's party.

Yes. I clung to your sister. My sister is one of those. She's pretty amazing that way. She's very smart. Mm-hmm. Got a smart family. And not sentimental either.

Good. Yeah. I said, do you get hormonal when you have your period? She goes, no. And that annoys me. I remember when she was younger. I was like, whoa. She doesn't have a lot of girl energy.

I bet your sister got along with Patty great. Mm-hmm. I knew it. Mm-hmm. They both get together. Very well. Call everybody pussies. Yep.

Jesus, that's too intense, man. Yep. That's too intense. I hate that. Kathleen is not. I don't like She's that's too intense man. Yeah too intense I hate that. I don't like when girls talk like that man. Those girls are scary. Yeah, my sister's not fucking pussy It's like whoa, whoa She's not romantic or any of that stuff. Easy bitch simmer down bitch. Someone's gonna make you swallow your teeth My sister used to have an eye for weakness Like if she saw a guy with what she called a weak chin or if somebody was sleeping with their mouth open, God help you.

She'd be like, we'd be on a plane. We'd be on a plane and she'd go, look at that guy with his mouth open. What a weakling. She's so weak. I was like, come on, man. He's just sleeping. His jaw's hanging open. She's like, that's annoying.

That's your dad's barbarian genes. Yes. She's all my, I call her, the joke is I look at her and I go, daddy, oh, I mean Kathleen, they look annoying. That's your dad's barbarian genes. Yes. She's all my... I call her. The joke is I look at her and I go, Daddy? Oh, I mean Kathleen. They look alike. That's not good. No.

She's got bigger bones. She was the husky one. I was the frail kid. You wish you had your sister's genes? Dude, I would get cold really easily. I had no... I was so skinny and my sister was like, what are you cold for, you baby? She has a full set of hair on her, too.

Yeah, she does. Well, chicks don't usually go bald too often. Right, Brendan. Brendan, I don't know if you know that. She's not suffering from male pattern baldness. Well, we're talking about her like she's a fucking warlock. I'm just saying she has a nice set of hair on her. She also has a little dick.

She does have a tiny dick. Tiny cock. But big balls. Huge balls. That was a nice transition there by Hein. Recognizing that that knee is coming. Kind of telegraphed that knee. Now right at the back.

But give up the position. Small arms. His short arms and legs. Give up the position. He's very muscular. He sets a rare look these days. For sure get your hands off this guy. In the lighter and lighter weight classes, guys are becoming less and less muscular.

Really? Yeah, yeah. Well, because we've got Kawajiri and Seaver on the card tonight, two guys that were real thick for their weight class. It's just super rare. Wait until this drug testing kicks in. Everyone's going to look like Gumby and shit. You're not joking.

Two Kermit the Frogs. You're not joking. It's very, very weird what's going on here. Because the UFC is deciding to do it on their own. They're deciding to clean up the sport on their own. But it's an inherently dirty sport. But they're not part of it, right? They're handing it off to someone.

The UFC, they can't tell them who to test. They're just saying, alright, you guys do it strict as fuck. We're just going to stay out of it. They're telling the commissioner to do that. No, it's not a commissioner. They're bringing in WADA. They're bringing in the people that busted Balco. The strictest drug testing in the world. And they're going to have it year-round, right?

They're going to do it randomly all year-round. Five random tests a year. They show up at your house, 3 o'clock in the morning. Brian, get up. God damn. You ain't? No. Yeah, the problem with that is they're waking guys up.

Good luck getting through security, son. Hashtag rich. They're getting... They're getting rich they're getting They're getting guys that are you know like in the middle of your sleep cycle You're fucking up their whole day if you could fuck up a couple days of training problem They could take a shot and maybe they wouldn't have taken if you've done that you know I mean it might be slower in the gym because of that. You're going to get a piss.

I'm going to piss on your face. You're waking me up at three in the morning. Yeah, this should be over. But they don't want to make it so that you could cycle it. You know, you can get apparently Alex Rodriguez. By the way, this scientific analysis is brought to you by Joey Diaz. He told me about this. Take it with a grain of salt.

Dog, they got these fucking gummy bears. Alex Rodriguez was taking gummy bears. He would take them, and they would test. By the time he knew exactly when to take these fucking things, so that when they were going to test them, it would be out of his system. No, he's right. A fucking gummy bear. He's right.

He would do it during the game. By the end of the game, if they test them, it was out of his system. How is that possible? I have no idea. I wish I had the fucking scientists. Is that still possible? Because someone get those to Vitor like yesterday. Yeah Was that the weirdest transition of bodies Vitor between Luke Rockhold and Vitor fighting Weidman It's like what the fuck happened or over him that time no, but over him still looks like a stud

Yeah, like over him is smaller than he used to be but he still looks like a stud. Like, Overeem is smaller than he used to be, but he still looks like a stud. Vitor looks deflated. I agree. He looks deflated. Yeah, he looks fucked up. Like someone stole his meat. But Overeem, when he fought Brock Lesnar, I was like, holy fuck, you need to beat Brock's ass. Brian, shut that shit up.

Whoa, what the hell? Yeah, it's called... Guys, guys, I'm sorry. You beat Brock's ass and then just walk on over to the fucking Orleans Casino and win the Mr. Olympia. Like, he could do both. He was fucking jacked. I watched that and I was like, oh, fuck, I need to find a different career. Or a different doctor.

Or a different doctor. Can I ask you guys, I watched the Kimbo Slice, Frank Shamrock fight. And Ken had him completely stretched out i gotta tell you right now that fight looked fake as fuck that's what i was gonna think i literally that's what i thought there's a couple things i don't like about that fight i don't like that clinch that long clinch that they had where they were mouth to ear they were mouth to each other's ears and no one was really striking time like if you're kenny you're a wrestler i'm popping those elbows and fucking taking you down.

How about the fact that when Ken did take him down, he never hit him once. How about that? He never hit him. He had him down. He had him flattened out. He had his back, and he's not crashing him. He's not blasting with punches. He's got him flattened out, and he's not hitting him.

That doesn't make any sense to me. He's also full choke. He had a full choke. Yeah, I know, but he's also 51. That's true. And a fighter 51. That's true. You're 100% correct.

I watched everyone, right? I watch all of Bellator, I watch all UFC, I watch everything. So, the Bellator, when the entrance is, I was like, this is so dope. It was kind of like the pride and all that. Then, I was on board. You had Big Brown It was kind of like the pride and all that. Then I was on board. You had me. I was on.

You had Big Brown on board. But then when Ken Shamrock walked out, I was like, what the fuck is going on? How about the girl who was singing? What was that about? I don't know. See, I'm down with that, though. You're down with a girl singing? I would love for Brian to sing for me when I walk out.

He's a man. He's really tall and brown. No, I'm not a good singer. No, not like that. Tall and brown. He's got great hair and a part inspired by the great Gatsby. That would crush so hard.

Big brown. I'm more with this. Big brown. He's big brown. Big brown. I want Joe to do it. You could totally get an opponent's head, by the way, when he's laughing at your entrance. He's gonna punch this guy in his big face and take him down be careful of his game

I don't want a West Side Story Second to none he's really handsome Didn't even try He can turn on a nun. Turn on a nun. Wow. Dude, don't ever play with me. You didn't even try. No, I didn't. But Shamrock came out. I think his whole family was behind him. He had a guy. Yeah, what's up with the girl with the daughter or son?

And then kids behind him. Yeah, he had a girl that was with him. Was it his granddaughter or something? I don't know, man. That had his daughter maybe that had a kid with her? I was on board until that. I was on board until that. It was very WWF, the entrances.

To me, the whole thing, the entrance looked so suspect because he was shaking everybody's hand. It didn't look like he was about to go to a fight. I agree. He was about to go put on a performance. He didn't look nervous. And if you watch Kimbo fight when he was in the UFC, when he was fighting like Mitrione or Houston Alexander, that motherfucker's taking it serious. Now when he fought Ken Shamrock, he's talking to him in the ring before the entrance.

Yeah. No, no, no. The baddest motherfuckers on earth really don't talk like that. But they might have told them that this is the way to generate interest in this fight, to hype it up, all the fake bad blood. And then the other thing that got me was the way Kimbo stopped Shamrock, that was real as fuck. I mean, he definitely cracked him.

Yeah, because I was real as fuck I mean he definitely Yeah His eye was fucked up Cracked him I agree So Maybe they made An agreement And Kimbo said I'm gonna punch

This motherfucker anyway Yeah He was like I'm gonna blast this dude But he did have him Completely stretched out With what looked like A full rear naked choke

Am I wrong about that He sort of But he never went Behind the head Like he choked him But he had it like On top of the head In some sort of Weird way a weird way and Kimbo was able to just keep grabbing That it's hard to choke diet with one arm unless you're I mean you gotta be a real motherfucker

Yeah, he's been never just kept grabbing the one arm, which is the right move to do, but I don't know man Hmm, I was disturbing to me how easy Kimbo shook Ken off his back like there's a lot of shit that I didn't like about it Other than that it was dope and you see their next card. They're doing a doublet. They're doing yeah And fuck on it dynamite. I love it. Yeah, I'm on board. I'm on showings riding daily on that I don't know if he's fighting daily, but they're both fighting on the car I thought he was fighting daily if he's fighting daily dailies in fucking trouble super trouble. He's in trouble Yes, Joe Schilling is a tall motherfucker who can crack. And he's been in there with the best kickboxers in the world.

And Daley's really good kickboxing for MMA. But then again, Daley's got that fucking ridiculous nuclear left. Left? Yeah, but you don't think Joe Schilling's seen better striking? He has. He knocked out Manhoek. Yeah, come on. Yeah.

He knocked out Manhoek. Manhoek was so scary to me. He knocked out Manhoef. Manhoef is so scary to me. The way he kicks him. I can't imagine fighting a guy like that.

Watching those kickboxing fights where it's just kickboxing with Manhoef, he's so devastating for a while there. He used to be,

yeah. Oh my God. Schilling knocked out fucking Simon Marcus with one punch after they had gone to war for four

rounds. And that was the first guy to ever beat Marcus. Marcus was undefeated like 39-0. Because it went to They backed out fucking Simon Marcus with one punch after they had gone to war for four rounds. Yeah. And that was the first guy to ever beat Marcus. Marcus was undefeated, like 39-0. Because they went to a draw, right? And then they... Mm-hmm. They had to go to the next round. And the reason why it went to a draw...

Think about that. Simon had dropped him. Simon had dropped Joe Schilling, but then Joe Schilling had come back and won some... Like, it was... You know, the way they do it at Glory is the old K-1 way, where if they go three rounds, and then if it's a draw they go to the fourth and final round tiebreaker That's a motherfucker that'll fuck your mind up Well, how about the fact that he had a fight two more times after that that night same night what yes? He had a fight fucking Wayne Barrett

Who's a bad motherfucker to fight him after that and then he had a fight Artem Levin in the fucking this is all this is all Just striking right up Oh kickboxer dangerous thought that that was a pretty pretty good payday I'm sure I hope he was just talking about how sorry was like for days yet I see imagine hit asleep in an easy chair every time you get up. He'd be like oh His arms wouldn't bend everything was fucked up just getting hit and blocking and oh three fights in one day Mm-hmm. That's crazy. He fought ten rounds.

Ten rounds against three different opponents. I did four sets the other night. I thought that was hard. Can I be honest with you? You're looking a little more vascular and I appreciate it. He's lifting weights. See that right there? I got the kid lifting.

I'm the straw weight. Death squad straw weight. You started death squad straw weight. Fuck yeah. When we were in Canada, the kids saw us with our shirts off and decided to start lifting. That's right.

Yeah, Brian and Joe switched shirts. Really? Actually, it was to rep you. Yeah. Yeah, he gave me one of your shirts. Yeah.

Oh, nice. So all three of you played a part in it. Nice, man. You started working out. Yeah, I had to. Yeah, I saw the kid with his fucking shirt on.

I saw that. I saw that. It made me like really sad. Rogan's pretty jacked. Rogan's very thick. Yeah, I saw the kid with his fucking shoulder. I saw that. I saw that. It made me, like, really sad. Rogan's pretty jacked. Rogan's very thick. Yeah. Rogan's a lot thicker. Rogan is paying the price.

I looked at myself and I was like, oh. I need shoulder surgery. I have a torn labrum. I hope I don't need shoulder surgery. That's a bitch, man. Yeah, it clicks and it makes more. You know, the problem is it's been bugging me for a year. And for a year I've just been pushing through it.

Because you're an extremist. I'm moderate I always stop Joe definitely no I called Brian the other night I'm like where you at man he's like emergency room bro I've got a sore throat right now I'm like I'm not making this up I swear he's like I'm in the emergency room man it could it could you know you see a white spot that could be cancer like that's right spot again no no I had I had a little on my dingle berry I was a white spot and I was like oh same white spot or a new one no I was the same one and I go that's cancer and a guy looks at my thing and he goes and he goes this is I was I was so convinced and he goes huh I go what he goes he's like that's wild I go what is he goes it's probably

where were you I said I was in Costa Rica he goes oh I used to work in a clinic down there you probably have something from there. Probably just a self-limiting virus. By the way, gone the next day. I think it was food on my tonsil, on my thing. It's embarrassing, man. He probably ate a chocolate donut with, like, powdered sugar on it or some shit. I'm a hypochondriac.

Powdered sugar got in a little thing in the back of his neck. You're that guy. Oh, eye pokes. I fucking hate them. Jesus Christ. Meanwhile, your sister has spots all over her fucking tongue and doesn't do shit about it She doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, she doesn't give a fuck. She eats grass. She laughs at me.

Chews up some grass. She's got green mouth. She's got green mouth syndrome. Foamy green bubbles in the corner of her mouth. Are you chewing that cud again? Shut the fuck up pussy. Look at you with your mouth open. You don't have four stomachs. Stop chewing cud. It takes a special type of dude to be with a girl like that. Yeah, I'm not one of those guys. I am. I tried it.

I am not that guy. I've tried it, too. I like women who are women. Me, too. Like, women who want to argue with you and they get fucking gangster with you. That's not interesting to me. That's like when I had a little affair with a girl on the national Canadian water polo team who was so hot, but her back was thicker than mine and her hands, her knuckles, when we'd hold hands, I was like, well, your hands are a little, just a smidge bigger than mine. And I have a big problem with that.

See, that's what I love about my girlfriend, Joanna, is that she doesn't start any drama or talk shit, but she could. She knows her role. She'll finish it. She uses it all up, giving chicks concussions. She's exhausted by the but she knows her role. She'll finish it. She uses it all up, giving chicks concussions. She's exhausted by the time she gets to you. She's very feminine. From being bitches. I want to see you guys stay.

Believe me, if you guys fucked, you wouldn't have much say in it. Tony, you lick pussy now. Lick pussy. No, come on. I don't care if you're fucking tired. Come on, Tony. She wouldn't be able to handle me, man. You're tired. You want to go to sleep? I know why they call him the golden pony. I think pussy no come on I know why they call him the golden pony and she's surprising. He has a surprising dick

It's good. He's dick is surprised skinny skinny, but like me, but he's surprising. It's more of the ivory pony I'd give it to her good guys. I'm serious. She's not hair up in cornrows I'd give it to her good, guys. I'm serious. She'd have to put her hair up in cornrows just to deal with me. I'd give it to her good, guys. By the time you're done, her hair is... That's how we know you're not giving it to her. I was setting up for my cornrows joke. Come on. I would fucking give it to her, man.

That's how you know a guy's not laying the proper plate. I was setting up for my cornrows line, guys. You do it good, man. Guys, you know how I do it, guys. Like, looking for everybody to confirm.rows line, guys. You do it good, man. Guys, you know how I do it, guys. Like, looking for everybody to confirm. Come on, guys. You know? Come on, guys.

You know how it is, guys. I would fuck her good, fellas. By the time I was done with her, she'd need a nap. We haven't talked about this fight once. Yeah, this guy, Sarge is actually getting the better of him right now. Oh, there it is. Heine is of him right now. Oh, wow. There it is. He's been dominating.

He's been dominating. He's been dominating. He's been dominating. He's been dominating. He's been dominating. He's been dominating. He's been dominating. He's been dominating.

He's been dominating. He's very aware of what's going on. When the other guy is throwing shots and kicks, he's aware of where the angles are coming from. He's capitalized a couple times on that. He's cardio. He's good. He hasn't stopped moving, man.

He is not tired. No, he's tired for sure. Roger Wertz is a good fucking trainer, man. He's apparently going to fight again. Not in the UFC. No, he's tired for sure roger works is a good fucking trainer man he's apparently going to fight again not in the ufc no he's fighting him oh no yeah he found one fc he lost yeah well he's last fight right yeah he fought 170 too and roger's not not even big for 155. look at that catching angles look at that dude you remember roger roger when he was in the ufc and he was like the poster poster boys the first one I everyone thinks Ronda was the first one on the cover Sports Illustrated actually Roger worked up This is my man over here is walking toward him just straight toward him and then remember you because I think he beat

I forget who he beat in that way a lot of guys But he was front kicking the guy knows the front cover Sports Illustrated But then he got to like big-headed and he's like, I want to get paid, whatever, some crazy amount. It's not just that he wanted to get paid. He started complaining about shit publicly. He started complaining about the media duties and not getting paid for media duties, and it was like, what? That motherfucker disappeared.

He made a huge mistake. He said, do what? That's cool. Check this out. Shelf you for a nice young two years, and here's the worst matchup possible. Here's Gray May. You see ya Motherfucker went to Thailand last time. I saw him fighting. He's in a street fight in Texas. Yeah, that was amazing Yeah, the girl the dude hit a girl in a parking lot

What yeah and Roger worked a big-ass dude and Roger worked a K Oh this dude in front of a football player big football player Wow. He sucker punches this girl Oh, I don't know what happened But this guy stepped up and sucker punches this girl I don't know what happened But this guy stepped up and sucker punches girl and Roger got his face and he goes I'll knock you out too motherfucker Roger takes his shirt off and just he's off on this guy It's like a goddamn action movie the camera pans to the guy pans to Roger moving towards the guy next thing You know there's like a scramble people in front of him the dudes laid out and Roger soccer kicking him in the head. Yes, dude Wow

Yes, did he get in trouble for it? No, he got love from the whole world fantastic I could get trophy that guy's a cunt right? He's a very good dude. I'm a great guy really good guy. He just had the wrong people in his ear He's oh he's he came and he was in Denver for a while I remember training with us and he was always just a fucking brawl, man. His boy won. He's taken a lot of punishment in his career, man. He tried being an actor for a grip.

Yeah, well that was the thing. He was dating that Laura Prepon chick. Yeah, from that 70s show. And I think she probably got in his head as well. She was like the first celebrity I saw. I thought Roger was so cool. Is that Tom Hardy? I was like, oh shit. Is that Hardy? That's Dan Hardy, not Tom Hardy. I was like oh shit. Is that hardy Dan Hardy I'm gonna Jesus Christ. No guys. He looks like Tom Hardy though cuz Tom is also playing a character like this

Oh, there's Roger. Look at a handsome bastard. Look at that. He's a fucking ladies man I've ever seen one yeah, kids a stud. Hey try doing the whole acting thing in fighting. They get you man They get you you guys see and Hardy gave that dude the mic. Can't do that. That's frowned upon. Dan Hardy's going to be slapped when he's in the back. Yeah, what is this speech this guy is... You can't do this.

He's about to start a revolution of some kind. Shit, I'm on board. Yeah, it sounds like Hitler and Mein Kampf. Yeah. He's the... Oh, shit. He even did the Hitler thing with his hand. This is intense.

This is some fight... This is some fight pass shit. What is this guy saying? This is some fight pass shit, man. Grab the mic. Yeah. Take that mic, Dan Hardy. Show control.

Who owns the... This guy's just taller than I thought. Dan Hardy's just giving him that mic. Stretch. I mean, that's a big no-no, right, Joe? Can't do that. You can on very rare occasions. You know, I've done it before. Title fight at the end. Guys that I mean, that's a big no-no, right, Joe? Can't do that. You can on very rare occasions. You know, I've done it before.

Title fight at the end. Guys that I trust, you know. It's fundamentally, like, really hard to share a mic with anyone ever, you know, when it's your role, when you're in control. But it's a different situation because when I'm doing interviews, like, you never, I very, I have no personality when I'm doing interviews. My personality, or my interviews are all about trying to get the most out of the fighter. I just try to ask them a question and give them the opportunity to express themselves.

I don't interject very much. Most of what I do, I'll give them a little enthusiasm, tell them how exciting it was and how awesome it was. But my goal, 100% while I'm doing interviews, is to try to get that guy to express himself. That's why when I've tried to give people advice about, you know, I've had a lot of guys ask me, like, what do you do? How do I give interviews? That's my scariest part.

A lot of these guys are real nervous about interviews because it's live, you don't know exactly what to say, and you're kind of ad-libbing it in the moment. I'm like, the most important thing is it's not you. It's not about you. It's all about trying to get the most out of that guy. This is his moment. What he was thinking, how it feels to be a champion, all that stuff. Is it surprising? Give us your thoughts.

I want to know how a guy feels after. Because sometimes a guy will say, you know what, man, from the second round, my hand was broken. And you don't know. You have to ask, how do you feel? Like, what happened? What was it like?

Was anything surprising? You can't give him the mic. Don't give me the mic. I'm like, oh, God. TFATK.com. Try to get podcasts, everyone. Were you surprised that the Cain Velasquez? No, I was and I wasn't.

I wasn't surprised when I thought about it afterwards while it was happening. I was like, whoa, this is crazy. But you can't just go up to 7,500 feet above sea level and expect to keep your cardio, especially when you haven't fought in two fucking years, man. You just haven't fought. See, I think that's a good point. You can't't fought. See, I think that's a good point. You can't do that. However, you don't become a multi-time world champ and not know that that's an issue.

I think his issues are way beyond that. I think he realized that. I think they could have fought in fucking L.A. at sea level and he would have looked like that. Really? Yeah, I think Altitude's a bad example. You don't get to his level without assuming that. I think it's a cop-out. I've got to be honest. Wow, that's interesting.

So what do you think is going on? Do you think Fabrizio Verdum just got that much better? Or do you think Kane is slipping? I think Verdum got that much better. And I think Kane has had damn near two years off. And he's taken a lot of punishment, man. Good point. And with these injuries, it's not like, you know how it goes, man.

When you have some injury, you can still work on stuff and continue to get better. It's not like you know how it goes man when you have some injury can still work on stuff and continue to get better Two years off of with surgeries and rehab two years in MMA UFC the games changing fast as fuck man It is like even now. I you know I haven't fought since December if I fought At then this next December with a year off the games changed little on two years And then you're fighting a motherfucker in for doom who's been active as fuck and getting better and better and better. And he's tall, and he's got a long reach. And you don't want to take him down. Enjoy that.

Exactly. So what happened? You took him down. He got strangled. I mean, that's what it was, which is actually better for him. You know, he was getting fucked up on his feet. He was about to get knocked out on his feet against Verdum. He was wobbling all over the place.

I would imagine if you were getting ready for her doom in your cane Velasquez your coach says never shoot a second double leg Only a single no his coach was to Javier Vasquez for first of all or Javier Mendez rather who first of all is a fantastic Strike a coach. Yes doesn't have a background as grappling. It's not a black belt in jiu-jitsu He's not some world-class grappler I don't think he's ever rolled with a guy like Fabricio Verdum. If you never roll with a guy who has a fucking nasty guard like Verdum does, you don't know. You can't take that guy down.

Right. You can, but there has to be, you have to bring in a guy like Boos Cheshire to get you ready for Verdum. Shoot a single leg on him, because they're going to do different stuff to get a hold of your neck. Like, you shoot a single leg on a high-level guy, a jiu-jitsu guy, he's going to get a hold of your neck. But you can pass and still take on a high-level guy, a jiu-jitsu guy, he's going to get a hold of your neck.

But you can pass and still take him down. So better to shoot a single or a double, Brian. Yes. Well, he left his head on the outside. That was the problem. It has to be on the inside. Your head has to be pinned to the chest if you shoot a double on a guy like Fabrizio. But Fabrizio's guard is so fucking good.

Unless you bring in a Vinny Magalhaes or someone who's got, like, a commensurate guard, good luck being able to defend against that. He's going to hit you with a shitty buddy like that in camp. That double leg was desperation. You can see him exhausted. Have you ever seen Kane shoot such a shitty double leg? No, he was beaten down. He was exhausted.

And then, first of all, his technique was shit, right? You see him over his hips. He leans. He, like, leans over. I mean, you do that to Verdum. How good is this fucking promo? Turn this volume up, Jamie. Best promo ever.

This is an amazing fucking promo. I'm so fucking pumped for this fight. I think me and Eddie got a grand on this fight. Hold on, hold on. Do you guys bet a grand? Who'd you bet on? I got a hollow. Really?

Ooh. I'm rooting for Conor, though. I love Aldo. Really? Ooh. I'm rooting for Connor, though. I love that guy. Look at how he walks, even. He's so cool. He's such a cocky fuck. I love it. This is such a great commercial.

This commercial, by the way, cost a million dollars. Look at those eyes What a great fucking commercial God damn July 11th Hurry up and get here please I'll tell you what wasn't cheap Is using that Jay-Z song That probably cost him 900 grand

Then 100 grand to film that shit I'll do that shit for 20 dollars right now Yeah that's gonna be interesting Brian could have sang the song for that promo. That would have been great. Oh, that's right. Machida and Romero. That's the best fight.

Are you around for that? Are you in town? I'm in San Francisco at the Punchline. No, no, no. That's not next weekend, Callan. June 27th. Yeah, June 27th. This is June 27th?

Yeah, you and I are. Next weekend is the 27th. Me and Big Brown will be in. You're there, too? Yeah, I'm there, too. What are you doing? Business. What are you doing? Business. What kind of business? I don't Next weekend is the 27th. Me and Big Brown will be in. You're there, too? Yeah, I'm there, too. What are you doing? Business. What are you doing?

Business. What kind of business? I don't know. For the podcast. Sponsors. What kind of business? Some sponsor stuff. Meeting with two sponsors.

Rearrange that. Hey, bro, I'm doing stand-up. He wants to come see my work. No, he doesn't. I'm all set on that. Hey, bro. You've seen those jokes. I could go up and do your set.

Do you have a new set now that you've recorded your special? I'm writing a bunch of new stuff now. Let me ask you this about your special, which, by the way, was fucking so much fun to be at. The only time I've ever opened up for a guy. This is the only time I've ever warmed up a crowd. It's incredible. In, like, I don't know, 15 fucking years? I haven't gone on first on a show in 15 years.

Damn. It was weird. It's weird to just go up like that. Like, you do it all the time, Tony. You know? There's a talent to getting the crowd that. Like, you do it all the time, Tony. You know? Like, there's a talent to getting the crowd going. Like, getting into it. It was fun. Yeah, you did a great job.

But that room is fucking amazing for a special. When I was backstage watching on the monitor, I was like, this is perfect. This is the perfect room. I loved it. And I love the stage. I love the feel on the floor. I feel so grounded. Did they ask you to do, do you have more than one camera?

Like, how many cameras do you use? Six cameras. Six cameras. Yeah. See, I was thinking, like, the one camera that they have when you work there, you know how you work there? They make a film of every show. Yeah.

And the one camera that they have when you work there is perfect. Yeah. It's like that one, like, I've been watching specials lately, and one of the things that I've been coming to this conclusion is, like, you need one view of the show like head-on the way you watch it right the way you kind of watch sure do you think 20 cameras overkill kellen six cameras well he had a guy with him that does hair who had a holster that guy was dead serious for sure relax i was giving him i was just giving him a credit you know he's a good guy Whatever giving him credit for those people were in the way. They're in the way of thinking there's too much relaxation Yeah, if wasn't for Brendan, and I you probably wouldn't been loose. Yeah, we were back there busting those guys balls

That's right. What guy had on a Bentley belt. Yeah a little too much He had a Bentley belt a red Kanga backwards of course and a holster He looked out right now. I was like don't fuck this up see you By the years what did I do like 20 15 20? 2028 but it was great at least they loved it hell Yeah, it was very appropriate and it was great the thing we talked about care was so ready to the such a smart move to have Such as you know a way overqualified opener for a special. I mean, it's hilarious.

Joe Rogan opening for me. I had Joey Diaz do mine at the Ice House. Jesus. That's how you do it, man. Yeah. That's how you do it. It was bloody murder. See, the thing was, I go, Joey, I can only have you do 15, because if you do 21 minutes

or longer, there's no way they're going to be able to listen to me for an hour. You have to be careful with that. You don't want to burn them out. Are you going to have Kevin Hart open for you, Joe? I've had three guys open for me before when I was filming a special. Is it too much? Yeah, it was too much.

Sometimes my face hurts. Joey, Duncan, oh no, was it Joey Ari? Joey Ari? I think it was Joey Ari and Red Band did a set too. Shit. Wow. Yeah, it was ridiculous. Two people. One person.

Yeah, I didn't go on stage until an hour into the show plus. Too much, huh? For your special? Yeah. Wow. In Atlanta. But that with you, it's like, you know. Brian, you were worried because you were sweating so much.

Yeah. You wouldn't shut up about sweating. The second show, they turned the heat off. Stupid. They air off. Don't worry about it. Just do a show like you're in a club. Yeah, no one gives a fuck. If you're in a club, you wouldn't shut up the second show they turned the heat off don't worry about it just do a show like you're in a club yeah no if you're in a club you wouldn't care right if you were just it was a set on the weekend it wouldn't even cross your mind if it would cross your mind there'd be something wrong no i was just thinking about not being able to use the second take

because the sweat was different on my shirt and by the way don't wear a shirt like that don't wear a light blue shirt as soon as i walked in on god damn it know. I always knew to wear a black shirt. The best was in between shows, they're like, Brian we have to fix the hair on the back of your head. I'm like, no you don't. You don't have to fix his hair. They're like, the back of his neck. They're like, the back of his neck is popping up. I'm like, no one is gonna watch this fucking special and go, I thought

he was funny until I saw an errant hair in the back of his neck. His sweating just isn't funny. The back of his neck is just... The hair is unkempt. He's so wet, I just didn't like it at all. I'm gonna call it wet. Get a look at this guy, Steve Kennedy, because that's what every UFC fighter's body is gonna look like

after drug testing becomes 100% implemented. They're all gonna look like Steve Kennedy. I just show up, I look like Roy Nelson. God damn! What do you want me to do? Yo dude, fighterandthekid.com, shut the show up. I look like Roy Nelson now. God damn! What do you want me to do? Yo, dude, fighterinthekid.com. Shut the fuck up. Is marijuana considered a... Yes.

No, you're good. It's only the week of the fight. Yes. Oh, really? Yeah, only the week of the fight. So you can get caught smoking weed and you... They're not going to test you for weed unless it's the week of the fight. Oh, I got you. Wow.

But this is the question I have. So you know how they say they're going to test you five times throughout the year? So if I fight three, am I going to test it eight or does that count as far as the five? That's a good question. That's a very good question. I think they said five randoms throughout the year. So does it not count?

I doubt they can afford eight. That's a lot. They can afford it. One of the things that bums me out is that this is going to cost a fuckload of money to go after all these different guys who are using performance-enhancing drugs. Give the fighters that money. Exactly.

That's what I was going to say. I'm sorry. I was going to say that. Sorry. Yeah. It needs to be said, man. It needs to be said. Can you imagine if they started drug testing and stand-up comedy?

What would happen? They would make sure that you were on weed. They'd make sure you do it. You'd get suspended if you weren't using cocaine and marijuana. Can you imagine? Do your suspension, bro. They suspended you. They suspended you if you smoked pot because it made you too funny. It's definitely a performance enhancing drug when it comes to comedy. I write all my best shit on weed. Mm-hmm.

By the way, I got these new vape pens. Goddamn, they're the bomb diggity. Really? Who makes them? I'm a big fan of vape pens these days I don't know makes them Start smoking Open them up. Just open them up. Why don't you make your own fuck other people's? Don't get in that business that business is sneaky like you got to be real careful because it's federally illegal Yeah, and when you make a shit ton of money and you're gonna come out take it all away

And if you like me and you like to talk a lot of shit, some things can get ugly. Yeah, I'm getting there, my man. People can get upset at you. And they can find the fact that you... And they'll make an example of you and all that. Yeah, it's one thing if you like to smoke a little weed personally. That makes sense. But if you're selling it and making... And you

don't need to. Yeah. You don't need to get in that business. It's also like a level of wealth that I'm not sure you really want to get to I'm not sure you want to get to a level of wealth where everyone knows you're worth a billion dollars and you have to drive Around with fucking guards Like whenever I look at Lorenzo Fertitta and he has these fucking former seals around him all the time with earpieces and Z Fuck kidnap them if I can take an answer and being a sex slave The dudes that fucking guard Lorenzo Fertitta are legit as fuck.

Really? Yeah, you look in their eyes and, like, these are dudes that will kill you with a pencil. 100%. You know there's a service? You know there's a service? Yeah. If you're going to do, like, I don't know, climb Mount Everest or do some crazy fucking kayak trip or go to Brazil, you can pay a monthly fee and they will pick you up and rescue wherever you're at in the world

There's only a certain like they won't go to Syria and they won't go to like Afghanistan But other than that anywhere in the world you're covered. It's only like $175 a month some shit. That's worth it. Yeah. What? Yeah, it's gotta be way more than that No, no, it's not it's only more than that if you're doing some like crazy shit and you tell them ahead of time, but so membership So what do you have to do where fr RFID chip? No, check it you have to have one of those satellite phones like those big ass satellite really which is small price to pay They're pretty small now. We used one when we were in Montana hunting. Yes, they're shrinking. Why don't we do another hunting trip? Let's schedule it. Yeah, you want to kill? What do you some shit, man. Fuck yeah. You want to get in? Yeah.

I want to kill it with my hands, though. We should all go to Tohon Ranch and go shoot some pigs. Alright. Because it's an hour and a half north. That's great. I don't need swine, but I'm down. You don't need swine? You don't eat pig? No. I'm just kidding. I'll eat some bacon. It's hard to get bacon because

bacon really comes from an animal that's been overfed and fattened up the pigs Oh that guy's lit up. I'm not trying to eat a skinny pig. He's got his he's not Yeah, he doesn't his head goes up when he gets thrown his chin goes up But the the pigs that you're gonna get up you're gonna be way leaner, but the hams are fantastic He's picking such good shape. I don't like that wild as fuck I'm a car right now. That'm going to make a call right now. This guy with red shorts is going to knock this guy out.

Black as fuck. I don't want to eat black pig, man. Every now and then you see a white spotted one or a brown one, but most of them are black. So you know what the difference between you and me is? I want to make them my pet. Bring it home. I have pets already. Thank you very much.

You do have a shitload of pets. I've got a few pets. I've got chickens. I've got already. Thank you very much. You do have a shitload of pets. I've got a few pets. I've got chickens. I've got cats. I've got dogs. I'll shoot some shit. Or I'll be like the dog. You guys won't need one of those dogs.

I'll just point them out. I remember when I was doing Kirstie Alley's TV show, I went to her house and she had two blind lemurs. She had a shitload of chinchillas, a thousand dogs, cats, and she had a huge desert hare in the middle of her bedroom.

It was fenced in, and it couldn't use its back legs, so it had to drag itself around. I'll tell you a show how rich you are to people. How many pets you have? How much random-ass pets you have? That's me carrying a bear out of the woods on my back for a shot with a bow and arrow. God damn, that is all man. That is so manly. That's all man. That is so manly. That's all man.

In Alberta. I ate that bear that night. Brennan has a bow and arrow. You need to frame this. Let me see that. That's a 250 pound bear. See, if I was there, I'd be in the back just, and here's Brennan in tears, just crying. Just terrified.

200 yards through the woods over dead falls with that bear on my back. That's crazy, bro. No wonder you blew your goddamn shoulder out. No, my shoulder truck shoulder on my children get hurt how much of that thing way 250 my shoulder was hurt from More from his about that bears your size motherfucker for real Though my shoulder was hurt. It's just all in your face I think benching is really what I did it. Flat bench. Very tough on your shoulders. People don't realize that. Is that right?

Incline bench, man. Or dumbbells. Oh, Sabata's got the rear naked and one arm trapped. Wow, good move. Oh, this is over. It's a crank. He's turning away from the choke, which is, you know, as long as you can really pin your neck down. It's a real crank right now, though.

That shit. No, he's free, man. He's free. Oh, now he's more wrapped up. Now he's more wrapped up. Good position off the cage. I love that body triangle i love that body triangle man that body triangle is so good no see i i did not in mma because how you get what are you gonna transition to a blue belt can defend the rear naked choke with those giant gloves on so if you have a body triangle you

can't transition anything but you could really sap a guy's will i agree you can control his breathing especially if you go belly down yeah if you could turn that guy and get him belly down with that body triangle god. That's so nasty we got that like Peter Sabato bad motherfucker Dean Lister in his corner that Can't go wrong Dean Lister been looking for his neck for the past six years just find it monster. It's just head shoulders He's just born for jitsu man. I met him at Metamoros I couldn't believe how thick he was that Josh Barnett tapped him. How about Josh Barnett tapped him dude? How about your boy? He run? Dude Barnett is my mother. He's the best catch wrestler of all time all time hands daily. So impressed that

Who's better he tapped Dean Lister and any tap here on my CD He tapped Dean first of all people say Dean Lister's never been tapped out in training in 16 years never been tapped out in training He's never been tapped out in competition Fucking and he got tapped with like a nasty neck crank. Yeah, thank you got him in that judo headlock Fuck that's our next motherfucker. Okay. See his next a motherfucker. Fuck yeah, he is. You see his next fight? Who was he fighting? Roy Nelson, Japan's son. Ooh, I like it.

I'm not UFC or UFC. I like it. What'd you just say? Not UFC or UFC. Of course it's UFC. Why don't you grab some bench, take a break? What are you talking about? Do you understand what this sport is about? The fuck?

Of course it's the UFC. Hey, guys, I don't know. Look at Dean Lister. I can't believe he's never been tapped in practice even. That's ridiculous. Well, Josh Barnett said, oh, that's cool. Check this out. That was a slick move.

You see the way he set that rear naked up? He made him defend one arm to set him up for the second one. He turned away from the one arm into the second arm. Sabata knows what the fuck he's doing, man. It's almost like he fed him the one arm so that he would turn away from it and then slip the second one Under the chin. I'm not mad at that shirt. Very nice. Here's a little tip. See I saw Giggle, I don't take heat for this but bear with me here when Daniel Cormier

I saw him he's the new light heavyweight champion Right and UFC selling his shirts and then as soon as July 1st kicks in Reebok's gonna design his shirts if I'm Daniel Cormier Or I'm Conor McGregor or Ronda Rousey, one of these mega stars, why won't you have your own website and create your own shirts and sell the fuck out of them and reap all your own benefits? I don't know, you're speaking like a businessman.

You're a smart dude and you have the ambition to do that kind of stuff, but a lot of guys don't. They just don't. Hire someone to do it. You're right, you're right. How about you? Why don't you do it? Maybe that's a good side business for you. Hello. I mean, I already got my own shit going on. Savage. You got a little too much going on selling about 8,000 t-shirts in 20 minutes.

I always text you right away. I'm like, Joe, check it out, man. They'll put up these shirts for sale and sell thousands in minutes. And I'm like thinking about the numbers and plus expenses. Holy shit That's real legit money And and nothing gets me more excited. Oh, it's when they sell I'm literally jumping around sweating Well when I was at Brian's taping the fucking audience was filled with your t-shirts. Everything was fighter and the kid I think you'd be surprised. I love it. There's so many different shirts around the audience. It's crazy.

It's amazing. It's really cool. It's a shock to me. The fourth ones dropping are so dope. I love what you're wearing there. Some American flag type shit. Fuck you. Red, white, and blue tanks.

And then we got the Master Kim shirt, but in red, white, and blue. It's so dope. Oh, I like it. Awesome. Yeah. Anyways. Good quality. I like it. Ooh, Yeah. Anyways. Good quality. I like it.

Ooh, he handed him the mic again. I was telling you, Joe, I need some fucking primate Joe Rogan shirts. I'm always rocking my own shirt. I gotta be honest. I feel like a tool rocking my own shit. Yeah, I know what you mean. You know what I'm saying? You've never seen me wear my shirts, nor do I even talk about them.

That's a real problem. I have a goddamn t-shirt company. Yeah. I don't even know. I've advertised it like three times. But you do well with it. It makes great money. When I was talking to you. I see those allshirt company. I don't even know. I've advertised it like three times. But you do well with it. It makes great money. When I was talking to you.

I see those all the time. I didn't even know you sold shirts. I was like, listen, this is what you got to do, bro. You got to do this. You're like, motherfucker, I've been selling shirts forever. I'm like, oh, really? I have no idea. Regina Hanlon was a pretty boxer.

She whizzed. She can't box these nuts in her mouth. I bet her pussy's got teeth. Fuck yeah. Hey, guys, guys. She can box this fat dick. She's a legit athlete. I don't box these nuts in her mouth. That pussy's got teeth. Fuck yeah. She can't box this fat dick in her mouth. Sir, she's a legit athlete. I don't care.

I love athletes. Oh, I sure would show her a good time. Right, guys? I sure would. Right, guys? Wait, what's her... She pulls her pussy lips apart and brushes her teeth. She gets a fucking...

One of those little water picks down there. Ah, man, I'll tell you what. Struggle is real with girls. What is her name, Regina? It is. It is. Struggle is so real. I love girls, man.

It's a fucking curse. Yeah. Well, they're better than dudes when it comes to having sex with them. So you got to do what you got to do. They don't. There's a reason. Opposites attract, right? They don't see it like you see it. at what point are you just attracted to one?

You know what I'm saying? It's a fucking curse. Tony, you feel me. Yeah, that's a problem, too. Being attracted to one is very difficult. Yeah, I love all different kinds of women. Then there's also the problem of just getting along. Everybody has a fucking different sensibility, man.

Men and women see things so goddamn differently. God, it's crazy. Different goals. Truly. Different needs. Different things that piss them off. You know what hurts my feelings is girls that I've dated before, we've dated for years, even lived together, and now just because, whatever, we're not, you know, still intimate

in a relationship, we're not friends anymore. But you get to think about the time you, not wasted, but you spent all those years together. To me, I'm like, no, let's still be friends. But they can't do it, man. Some of them can't be. But you can't be either, honestly. Yeah, because you used to send it in there and shoot loads inside their body and they loved it. They're around you and they hug you.

Man, I love it now. They hug you and they feel your back. That thick wall of a back. They hug that back. They feel that crease where the spine is and the muscles wrap around. It's a valley. It's a muscle valley. And Schaub does that thing where he lies on his back

and he puts the weight bar here and he does those fuck exercises. And he puts them up on Instagram. He's 405 pounds. Fuck you. Fuck it. Sending it home. Fuck you. Fucking it. Send it home.

Fuck you. Fuck you. One more set. One more. One more rep. Meanwhile, Rampage's trainer. I follow Rampage's trainer on Instagram. It's a woman with an ass created by God himself. What's her name, please?

Juliet something or another. I don't know her name. White girl? Oh, good. I mean, I guess. She's been doing squats for- Her ass is retarded, dude. It's retarded. And she does 400 pounds with that exercise. What?

That same exercise as you. Videos of it. Videos of it. Undeniable. How's the face, though? She's pretty. She's not ugly at all. She's pretty. But you don't even care. I'm gonna slip on it and DMs after this. Well, I think she's married and she has children. I've been there. Her ass is ridiculous.

It's ridiculous. But she does that same thing. She has like a yoga mat that she has rolled up next to the bench so she could pull it up here. And she puts her elbows on the bench because she can't get under it. Like she's not as strong as you to get under it. But once she gets under it. It's on. Let me find it.

I'll find it for you. Yeah, let's find that. Let's chill. I get dead serious. I'm like, let's under it, man. It's on. Let me find it. I'll find it for you. Yeah, let's find that. Let's get the shit. I get dead serious. I'm like, let's find it right now. Dude, sometimes you'll be on Instagram and you'll see a girl's ass and I'll be like, God damn. I don't care where I'm at.

You just, it's like so frustrating. It's like seeing a dope ass car. Exactly. And then I'll go to their fucking webpage or I'll go to their Instagram page and you find out that they have 7 million followers and all it is is pictures of their ass. Yeah. Girls get way more followers on Instagram than dudes. That's so nuts.

Look up there. Yeah, that's her. Find the one when she's doing Find the one when she's doing that. That's a strong gal. That critter gots a shitter on her. Oh yeah. You gotta wait. Jamie, find the one where she's in there doing the fucking... Oh, that's Rampages.

I know this isn't her page, that's the only one I can find. Oh, she's got a page. What is this at? Juliet what? Yeah, but I'm telling you that she has a page. So what does that say? That's at JulietLynn82. All right, I'll find it. Hold on. So she's not that old.

This is going to be interesting. There's nothing better than a nice ass. Tutsi-uh. Is this Seever in Caligari already? That's the co-main. How the fuck is that happening already? This is a short night. It says that I deal the... How about that four-man Bellator tournament coming up in September?

I know, right? What is that? It's, uh... Who is it? It's, uh... It's King Moe and Phil Davis. Emmanuel Newton, King Moe, Phil Davis, and who's the last guy? I'm not sure, the fourth guy. Yeah, the bald-headed dude. All one night. Great.

One night, right? Yeah. Wait, they're all fighting one night? Yeah. What? It's a four-man tournament in one night. God damn you, Scott Coker. You genius. Bellator's trying some experiments, huh?

I'm not mad at it to mix it up, because you've got to do something, because you're not going to compete with the UFC talent for talent. I'll tell you this. The front patio of the Comedy Store last night, everybody was waiting for that Shamrock Kimbo. Everyone loves Kimbo, man. And it garnered attention. And, you know, I don't see the UFC up on that TV as much. I mean, that often.

But, you know, that gets a different crowd watching. For sure. You know what I mean? I agree. I think they're doing it smart, man. I've never really seen Bellator in the past year until

last night. I was really surprised about those WWF entrances. It's fun, though, huh? They're not quite doing it right. It's a little too gimmicky. It is, and I don't think they see what works about the WWF's entrances that they're not doing. Like, it's cool the production value, but...

It's a little too much, right? It's corny as fuck. Yeah. Have the guys walk in and fight. It's nonsense. The UFC used to do it, and then they came to that on... Nah, it's not, though. I don't find it entertaining.

For Bellator, it is. I think the UFC came to the right conclusion. They thought about it, and they said, you know what? We can get more seats. We can sit more people in here without this. You know, they're really great seats. They're important to get rid of this ramp. And plus, we're spending all this money on pyrotechnics and shit.

For what? Yeah. And then they decided to bail on it. I don't think it's awesome, man. I don't. Well, I think the UFC is more, it's looked more as a legit sport. Bellator is more of a spectacle. But it should be.

Okay. What do you do? You can go talent for talent. Do you see? This is what you do. You poach. What Bellator needs to do is use some of that goddamn Viacom money and take advantage of this Reebok thing.

This Reebok thing has a lot of fighters that are going to lose a shitload of money. Here she is. Look at this. Come on, son. Wow. The fuck did I say? Wow. Girl's no joke. There's a bunch of videos of her doing that she's letting you know man. She's

Dtf man. Oh, I would do serious things to her No, you would fuck the shit out of Tony and off and she would open up a window and I find it in the sky She would pull her dick off pull Pull your dick off with her vagina. And shoot it into the sky? Open up the window and stick her pussy up in the air. She'd kill a bird with it. She's in shit. Yeah.

I gotta start doing that. What is exercise? I gotta start doing that. What's the benefit of that exercise? Hips. Hips and glutes. It gets you ready to fuck fat chicks. Probably good for your sprawl, right?

Yeah. Great for your sprawl. Good for hip mobility Look at the booty look at that booty. Yeah, it's a ridiculous booty. No no go down scroll down look at that What Jesus Christ? That's good, but it's black. It's hard to see because of the blackness scroll down a little There's one a little further a little further. She got that she got that tiggle bitty What's that? Oh yeah? That is a fucking bonafide booty

Yeah, I'm not mad at that. Good for her. Congratulations on your wonderful body. Congrats. Works hard for it, too. Yeah. Oh, she trains hard. Well, she's Rampage's strength and conditioning trainer.

I guess Rampage has a gym. Yeah, he does, right? In Orange County. Yeah. It's called Rampage's Fitness or something like that. I think so, yeah. Rampage Fitness. Good for him.

Good for him. I'm glad he's invested his money. He's still dealing that litigation bullshit, right, with Bellator? Yep. What is that about? Bellator signed him, and then they violated their contract, so the judge released him. They put an injunction.

Judge lifted the injunction. He fought for the UFC. Everybody loved him, fought Fabio Maldonado. Great fight. And then they got a new injunction. So there's a new legal issue going on. I'll tell you what, though. They had to release his contract for Bellator.

That thing was beastie. Yeah, he's making a lot of money. Are you allowed to hang a banner? If you're under the Reebok deal, can you hang a banner? No, it's over. Not only that, you have to wear Reebok clothes the entire week of Fight Camp. And you gotta show up in Reebok pumps. Oh my god.

Wow. Um... You know what, man? It's like forcing me to get a tribal tattoo. It's an open... That's hilarious. Barb wire around your bicep. Fucking tramp stamp.

I'd rather just get a Reebok tr stamp than where Reebok comes. You mean 90s tattoos? The thing about it is that it's opening up the door for Bellator in a big way. If they can show that they can come up with a lot of money for you in a contract and let you get your own sponsors like the way it used to be,

that'll change the fucking game. Because all you need is a few of those guys jump over You know Davis was the first name yeah, but Phil he's a free agent respect Phil was a free agent with all due respect Phil was not really a threat for the title It's just not you know you watch Anthony Rumble Johnson beat him up It's it's hard to hold and now that John Jones is gonna see Ryan Bader beat him. It's like mmm I don't know I I mean, he could. He beat Machida and he beat Gustafsson. He did.

He did. But he beat Gustafsson very early in his career. Still beat him, though. And that win against Machida was very questionable. He beat Glover Teixeira. He did. He beat Liotta Machida. He did.

But Glover trained for that shit in Connecticut in his backyard. I'm just saying, man. He literally did. I know he did. But he beat some top, top guys. No, look, Phil Davis is a tough guy, but no one thinks of him the way they think about Rumble or they think about Daniel, that he might be a real shot at the title.

So him going over to Bellator is not the biggest loss. You're saying we need like a Jose Aldo to go to Bellator. Exactly, exactly. Word, word. If Aldo went over to Bellator, how about this? Aldo and Barau, if Hennon Barau, how about if Hennon Barau beats TJ Dillashaw and then goes over to Bellator? I mean, that's craziness.

If they get a few guys like that. And by the way, they have that fucking Patricio Pitbull. Did you see that fight last night? Jesus Christ. He was getting his ass ripped and then came back. Came back and KO'd him. That was a wild-ass fucking fight. Pitbull's a beast.

I saw some good sponsors with Bellator, but I didn't see any powerhouse sponsors. I'm surprised everyone's not jumping the train yet. They need more numbers, you know, and I bet last night was good Yeah, I'm sure it was they need to bail on that fucking name. Bellator is a stupid name. Yeah, I'm not a fan of it What does Bellator mean? It's like like warrior in Latin or it's using a dead language Bellator, let's find out cuz I'm talking shit. I don't really know what the actual name is. For sure, switch it up. It'll be a little more professional. It should be Spike MMA. I agree. Just like, you know, Showtime

has Showtime Boxing. HBO has HBO Boxing. It's MMA. Spike MMA? Viacom Fighting? What? Make it more professional, man. What is the name? That's an interesting single, right? What? You were right. I was right? Brandon, what do we do here? Oh, okay, it's Warrior in Latin.

Dennis Seaver. It's hard for Seaver to fucking get motivated after Conor McGregor stole his soul. You see that fight in Boston? Jesus Christ. He looked so slow. He made Seaver look so slow. McGregor walked him down and beat the fuck out of him.

I know you can't pick, Joe, but Tony, Brian, how do you see Connor, Jose Hick? Connor, Jose, I... He doesn't know. He has no idea. I mean, if I had to really put money on it, I would put money on Connor because I feel like there's so much momentum and he has so much belief and I feel in some ways maybe he's inside Jose's head. Can I help you out here?

So you think he has more belief than Jose, a guy who hasn't lost in nine years? I do. He's pound for pound best in the world. Ten years. Ten now, yes. Yeah, a little bit. More belief than Jose Aldo. Look, Aldo has massive belief in himself.

Don't question that. Better camp. Aldo's beaten everybody they put in front of him. He has the best leg kicks maybe in the world. And now he's motivated. In MMA. His leg kicks are so

goddamn fast and nasty. Professional level soccer player and he has that ridiculous fucking hip snap because of that. Oh, and some of the best takedown defense ever. Spectacular.

The only thing about Aldo is he's had a lot of fights and he's had a lot of wars in the gym A lot of like tough rounds and fighting, you know That last Chad Mendes fight was probably the toughest fight he's ever had inside the octagon true Mendes cracked him Matt I mean his punishment. Yeah, Mendes hit him some bombs and Mendes can hit fucking hard man You see that Ricardo Lamas fight. He's the hardest hitter in that division by far And he confident and Jose Aldo took that and still what he says he

Did twice and Aldo dropped him in that first round. It's sort of illegal It's kind of like after the buzzer is tough the crowd so loud shit Connor Connor's taller And I feel like his hands are probably better Well, he's never fought and he's hardly as good as all those It's not even close level of competition now. That Now, if I'm putting money on it in Vegas, I'm going Jose Aldo all day. But personally, for the UFC, since I'm team UFC, I want Conor to win. If Conor wins, he's the biggest star of the UFC. Yeah, but if Aldo wins, it shows everybody what a fucking monster they've been sleeping on.

Yeah, but then what do you do with Conor? Now it's a gimmick. Now you're like, fuck, man. No, he rebuilds. Depends on how he loses. Here's my thing. I think it's brilliant that they have Conor fighting Aldo right away like this because the reality is we have not seen Conor fight a wrestler.

And if you see Conor in there with a Frankie Edgar or Conor in there with a Chad Mendes, you fucking never know, man. Some wrestler's gonna be a bitch, man. You never know what they could do to him. You never know if they could take him down and smother him. Look at the way Frankie Edgar stole Cub Swanson's fucking will. Just stole it out of his body. They don't want that, though.

Boom, exactly. They don't want that. Because look at Clay Guida, Anthony Pettis. Remember that? You don't want that, man. And that's what Dos Anjos did to him, too. Yes, exactly. But Dos Anjos with better stand-up.

Yes. So, but the thing is, it's going to be rough for Conor. As long as he makes it a fight, we're good. If he goes in there and gets fucking dismantled, then it's like, oh my God, this shit-talking is embarrassing. He's so big and so strong, I don't think he's going to get dismantled. But I think it's a fight, man. It's a fucking hell of a fight. I think Conor's gotten a little too confident.

He's wearing sunglasses indoors and shit now. That's part of the show, wrestling fan. I know, but most of those guys coming in sunglasses win after they have the belt. He's wearing the sunglasses indoors before the belt. You gotta wait. You gotta pay your dues. He's almost there.

You've got a wrestling mentality that's gonna ruin this whole fight podcast. How dare you. How dare you bring that bullshit in here. It's not pro-Kawajiri on top with Dennis Seaver. Look at this. But it's not pro-wrestling. It's high school wrestling that I'm talking about here because I think Aldo's going to do to McGregor what Cormier did to Johnson.

Well, Aldo's not a wrestler on that level, though. Aldo's a jiu-jitsu guy. There's a big difference between wrestling and jiu-jitsu. Yeah, he's going to try to knock him out. You're batshit crazy, though. If you think he gets in a grappling match, that's not gonna get taken down or out jujitsu Yeah, I believe that all those jujitsu is so fucking underrated. It's not good. It's that good Well, I think black belt world class is not just a that world class. He beat Cabrinha

I don't know shut the fuck up, please. Sorry guys guys. Just shut. Guys. Guys, I'm sorry. He's beaten world-class black belts. Let's just say that. In straight jiu-jitsu competition. In straight jiu-jitsu. Yes. He's elite. I mean, when you watch him move, you watch his Mike Brown fight when he fought Mike Brown

for the WEC title. He takes his back like a ghost. Gets those hooks in and just, you're going nowhere. When you were a kid sucking on your mama's titty, he was in a gi. That's how long he's been doing jiu-jitsu. Yeah. Big difference. I don't know if that's accurate, but he's been doing a while my man Well his explosion his his speed with those kicks and punches man older than me Although I'll do that 63 years old. No you are motherfucker. Yeah, look at Seavers busted up cow a jury Yeah, that's a great fight Dennis Seavers a Seaver's a guy where... I was doing this interview with Crooklyn Steffi from...

I guess she's with Bloody Elbow. Do you do regular interviews? With her. She's my friend. But we were talking about Ken Shamrock and Kimbo. They were on this pro-PED rant, and they got cut off because both of them were basically like who gives a fuck You want to use steroids you steroids?

I'm thinking why can't guys like make an agreement like if say like You know if you got like Vitor Belfort and whoever and they made an agreement to be able to use whatever the fuck they wanted You know you're both saying like Ken Ken and Kimbo is a perfect example 41 and 51. Super suspect. And they fought in Missouri. So did Bobby Lashley. And Bobby Lashley always fights in these strange places with fucking

legitimate propped up athletic commissions. Yeah, I mean, I just think that there's nothing wrong with making an agreement like that. Well, you know what's weird to me is, like, you look at other sports. Like, in baseball, if you test positive for steroids, you're so fucked. No Hall of Fame.

You get booed every week. Go look at Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez right now setting all these records. If you get caught in the UFC, you're kind of fucked. You look at a guy like Rothwell who got caught or Alistair Overeem. Then they fight. Everyone kind of forgets. It's whatever. You get caught in the UFC, you're kind of fucked. You look at a guy like Rothwell who got caught or Alistair Overeem. Then they fight. Everyone kind of forgets. It's whatever. You get caught in football. It's not a big deal. It's weird to me, man. It's weird how we... Baseball's America.

It's weird, though. America's not cheaters, goddammit. You don't even understand. They get tested once a year. Looking all fucking Eurasian. Looking all brown. Brown motherfucker. What are your origins?

I just think society needs to be consistent. It shouldn't matter, right? Well, baseball is a weird one, man. It's not even physical. Who gives a fuck? No, your bat speed. Crush the ball. No, no, your bat speed.

You can keep playing all up into your 30s. Brian, no shit. I want to see home runs. Me too. I want them jacked on steroids to the gills and crushing up into your 30s. Brian, no shit. I want to see home runs. Me too. I want them jacked on steroids to the gills and crushing balls. Yeah, exactly. Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire. How dope was that?

Yeah, it was the only time that people were excited. They both deflated. They looked weird. Old as balls. Well, how about Sammy Sosa turn into a white guy? What the fuck happened there? Michael Jackson is weird. He just looks super crazy.

I think he bleached his skin or something. But it's like a gray color. It's weird. It looks dead Yeah, he looks like I was like a corpse. It's just so weird how the week society judges certain sports Bring up Sammy Sosa when he first went into the league and when and when he was 240 It's the difference is ridiculous no mark. Oh, we get my wire the bass. Yeah, he was giant He had fucking poor arms like my eyes. His forearms were so jacked. They were like my thighs. With a hand at the end of it.

That's what I want. Like, Tony, you love fucking bullshit wrestling, pro wrestling. You love that fake wrestling. He likes the drama. Now, think if the drug test was like, do you have seen they're all skinny? Is it as cool? No. You watch pro wrestling because there are these characters.

They look like superheroes. Take away drug tests and see what happens Here's a bad example though CM Punk is one of the biggest wrestlers in the world And he's 100% clean He's the exception But there's a good example The WWF went through what UFC is going through now

Back in that Hulk Hogan thing In the mid early 90's It was huge So they had to eliminate it They have to do it themselves. They have like a super strict policy. Bro. Bro.

I'm serious. Super strict? You tell me Batista and The Rock are clean? No. Watch your words, sir. Come on. The Rock? You think The Rock's on steroids?

You don't think Cole Coggan has a needle in his ass? Tony, will you shut your fucking mouth? Tony, you weigh six pounds, and you're talking about a guy who is an immense super athlete. He's probably about 260. Is Brock Lesnar on steroids? Of course. They've all done something. Brock Lesnar, first of all, has superior genetics.

The bone structure that that guy has. You can go back to when Brock Lesnar was in high school. He was a fucking monster. Didn't you tell me he benched 225 49 times? Yes. 49 times. Well, you gotta see his combine. His combine numbers are stupid. His combine numbers are through the roof. His vertical

is insane. Pull up Brock Lesnar's combine numbers, Jamie. All that said, he got shitted on when he got to the NFL. They made fun of him. Well, it's a sport. It's a sport. Well, he wasn't ready for it. No, he never played football. Yeah, he's been doing wrestling. That said, Brock Lesnar's a freak. Brock Lesnar's a sport. Well, he wasn't ready for it. No, he never played football. Yeah, he's been doing wrestling. That said, Brock Lesnar's a freak. Brock Lesnar's a super freak.

But back to bullshit wrestling, you don't think these guys, because think of their schedules, too. Their schedule's fucking insane. Every night. You're not eating protein shakes and staying on that schedule, my man. I hate to piss on your sport or your entertainment. I mean. Well, those guys are constantly not getting enough sleep never lying in

It's a brutal brutal schedule. You talk to someone who's in that business It's brutal man, and after a lot of times have to pay for themselves You have to own rental cars and then build the company. It's a brutal circus. Yeah shit totally you think Triple H is fucking clean You don't get a neck like my waist. I don't know what Triple H is doing. That's an interesting one. I mean, he's a fucking monster. He's shaped weird.

What about Batista, dude? Look, Batista's the worst. I don't even acknowledge that Batista was ever even in pro. He's so terrible. What are you talking about? He was great in Guardians of the Galaxy. Phenomenal. You're a mess.

No. How dare you? No. Guardians of the Galaxy. Phenomenal. You're a mess. No. How dare you. No. Guardians of the Galaxy. Displained. You're watching Talking Trees and shit. That movie was great. Talking Trees and shit.

Oh, you're out of your mind. That movie was great. Jurassic Park's a motherfucker. What's a good movie to you? Mad Max was great. I didn't see it. I heard it was awesome. You're going to fucking love it.

Too much action for me. You know what's dope, dude, that I didn't see until this weekend when I was flying back from Mexico John wick Mm-hmm that Keanu Reeves movie the action movie plays really assassin they kill his dog and it goes and kills everybody really oh Home they kill his dog so he goes no no no I'm not doing it justice Revenge they kill some is this combine numbers. It's a fucking phenomenal move They're doing John wick to look at his 40 4740 by the way 283 pounds 4740 35 inch vertical jump long jump 10 feet

Standing long jump 10 feet bench press 225 for 30 reps Jesus fucking Christ a Running back living in the body of a defensive end Ridiculous he's an he's a freak Christ. A running back living in the body of a defensive end. That's ridiculous. He's a freak. I got to be honest, especially when he did do that a number of years ago. Now, that's not that freakish. Yeah. Really?

Really? But you got to think about it. There's some fucking freaks now. This isn't something he was training for. No. This isn't a guy that was moving towards being a pro football player. And just decided to do it. Brock Lesnar's the biggest freak the UFC's ever seen. Ever.

Ever, hands down. He would rip our dicks off right now. If Brock Lesnar had the right coach, like if he went to a—not saying there's anything wrong with his coaches. What I'm saying is if he had the right coach in the right amount of time, like if he went to a Matt Hume or a Farasa hobby, and they engineered his career from the beginning

to the time he's being introduced to the UFC to the time he's introduced to high level competition, he could have been an all time great. He's the best. Yes. Best heavyweight ever. He has the capabilities. He fought a former heavyweight champion in his second professional fight. He fought Frank Mir in his second professional fight.

He had no idea how to defend against a leg block. He got leg blocked. That's my favorite fight of all time. Great fight. Frank Mir's a bad motherfucker. But then, in his third fight after that, he fights Heath Haring, beats the shit out of Heath Haring. Then he fights Randy fucking Couture, stops Randy Couture in his fourth professional fucking

fight. Yeah, but Randy Couture was like fucking in a wheelchair to the octagon and then here's fucking Brock Lesnar. Still, it doesn't matter. For the fourth professional fight, insanely impressive. What he's done in his career, man. He beat Shane in his prime. Shane was in his prime and he got fucked up.

After Shane rocked him. After Shane beat the shit out of him. Where they could have stopped it, let's be honest. Easily could have stopped it. Good thing they didn't because he came back and won. That's why he don't stop fights. Came back and strangled him. Look, Brock Lesnar, I mean, he had no business fighting Alistair after he came back from that surgery.

He had no business fighting Kane. He just was not on that level. But if he learned to get on that level. He beats all those guys. He beats all those guys. He has more talent than all those guys. All those guys. And.

But he doesn't like to get hit. Dude, ask Pat Berry when he was in his training camp. And they brought Pat Berry in before he fought someone, I forget. And Pat moved out there and was in Minnesota. And he said he'd only train like two or three times a week. And they were sparring. And Pat goes hard. Pat was a trained partner of mine for years.

Pat goes really hard. He's a motherfucker, man. He's a beast. He's a beast stand-. He's a beast. Stand up. Terrible ground. Anyways, so he fucking hits Brock, and I guess Brock freaks the fuck out. And his coaches are like, what the fuck are you doing?

And Pat's like, what do you mean? Like, don't fucking hit Brock in the face. Pat was like, what the fuck am I doing here then? And they're like, you just paw, man. Just feel it out. What? Yeah, and Pat was like, this is some bullshit. What? Yeah.

They weren't hitting him. Ask Pat about it next time you see him. Great story. Well, that's weird. About him training with Brock. I had heard conflicting stories. I had heard that that's not true. Hmm. So I'm going to have to do a fight night without you guys. I'm very sad. No way. Next weekend. No, man. Saturday night.

Fucking bullshit. And my boy Liotta's fighting, too. Listen, you don't have to be there with him. You come with me. He does. He needs to. Why? What's it for? Because when he's without me, he gets lost.

I think he does well without you. No, no. I think he does well without you. I think he flourishes. Maybe he does better. No, no, no. That's not true. He's like, where's Brian?

I'm depressed. His head hangs low. My boy Liotta's fighting. I was just with him last week training, man. He looks great true. He's like, where's Brian? I'm depressed. His head hangs low. My boy Leoto's fighting. I was just with him last week training, man. He looks great. Does he? Looks great. Does he?

Great. What was going on with him entering into that Rockhold fight? This is the second. Ooh, that's a tight guillotine. Yeah, it is. He just passed. He needs to get that right knee up. For sure passed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn it. Well, the right knee was more important than even the choke. Would you agree? By far. 100%. Yeah, getting that right knee up and over was more important. Position over submission. Yes, sir. Right? That's, 100%. Yeah, getting that right knee up and over was more important. Position over submission.

Yes, sir. Right? That's fucking Hicks and Gracie 101. He can pass again. Position over submission. Over submission. First of all, defense. I am always safe.

Liotto said in that Rockhold fight, he had, in an exchange, got hit in the back of the head, and he was out of it since then. Sort of. He said it was an illegal shot. I completely disagree. I watched the elbow land. It landed to the back of the head. And he was out of it since then. Sort of. He said it was an illegal shot. I completely disagree. I watched the elbow land. It landed to the side of the head. It was a ruthless fucking elbow that Rockhold hit him with.

But Rockhold had already had his back, was already beating him up. Rockhold had him on the ground. And Machida didn't look good physically. He looked different physically. He looked soft. I agree 100%. Rockhold is going to fight Weidman next, right? Rockhold's going to fight Weidman, and that's

a fucking motherfucker of a fight. Real quick, best fight in middleweight history. Could be. Maybe him, Anderson versus Weidman might be the only other fighter. That's old school, Anderson. You're not talking about Anderson in his prime. Anderson, the first fight versus Weidman,

we didn't know that it was over. I know, but we found out really quick it was. Well, we only found out because he fucked up. If Anderson didn't fuck up, Anderson escaped from the knee bar, right? He escaped from the leg lock attempt by Weidman and was beating Weidman standing up before he's clowning around and trying to goad Weidman into an exchange so he could counterattack. It's hard to say he was beating him standing up because he's making such a joke of everything. He was kicking the shit out of his legs and punching him in the face at will.

He was not punching him in the face at will. No, he wasn't punching him in the face at will. He barely hit him in the face. Barely touched him. Those leg kicks. He threw a lot of leg kicks. And it was the first thing that John Donahue said to me when I went into the corner. John Donahue said, I said, congratulations after Wyman beat him.

Donahue is such a fucking wizard. The first thing out of his mind was, I don't like how many times he was getting hit with those leg kicks. It was the first thing out of his mouth. It's like, your guy just won the middleweight championship of the world, knocked down Anderson Silva. That's why he's a great coach. Exactly. I just think you have two fighters in their

very, very prime, right? Like, yeah, Rockhold had to slip up where he got his fucking eye kicked out by Vitor. Juiced up Vitor in Brazil. Other than that, he's a motherfucker. You have Weidman in his prime, you have Rockhold had to slip up where he got his fucking eye kicked out by a juiced-up Vitor in Brazil. Other than that, he's a motherfucker. You have Weidman in his prime. You have Rockhold in his prime. It's rare we see this man.

Yeah, it's true. To me, it's the best fight in middleweight history, if not one of the best fights in UFC history. I would agree. I would agree with that. I think Brock Shane's better. I think that's a bigger fight. But other than that, I think— What's a bigger fight?

Because it's the heavyweights. The heavyweight title is the most important title. True, and those are also two true heavyweights who brought some shit to the octagon. Right, right. Like, Kane's a tough sell, man, because he doesn't look imposing, right? He doesn't really talk. He just wants to wrestle and fucking

chill, right? See, I don't think so. I think if Kane was more active and he hadn't been injured and he was just running through the division like he was when he was in his prime before this two-year layoff. If you look at the Kane that beat up Junior Dos Santos in the second and third fights. If you look at the Kane that stormed through Ben Rothwell. That's old school Kane. But that Kane, if he was more active, he'd be like a Canelo Alvarez.

He'd be fucking huge. It's just tough to sell him when he's on the shelf for two months. Or two years round I agree But think about when Brock Brock Fucking Lesnar with the WWE crowd and then he had the UFC crowd sold and he was beating bitches up former champs Frank We need up me Randy Couture. You know I'm saying it's insane when he beat up mirror and stopped destroyed his face smashed his face He's the biggest star the UFC's ever had and And then you have Shane Carwin. Remember Shane?

Just got done beating the brakes off Mare. Knocked out Gonzaga. All knockouts. He won. MGM Grand. Biggest heavyweight 12-time in the UFC. That's the biggest fight in UFC history. Yeah.

No, I agree. I just think Rockhold and Weidman is a dope, dope fight, man. What was also the biggest pay-per-view card ever is also it was UFC 100, of course. So it was a big event. And, you know, it was a lot of hype behind it. No, Shane wasn't UFC 100. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I'm thinking of Mir. Yeah, you're thinking of Mir Brock.

Yeah. Shane was UFC 116 at MGM Grand. 116? Was it really that far along? Because I fought Chris Tushar on that. There's your boy, Pat. Yeah, there he is. We've got to have him tell us the story of training with Brock Lesnar.

MMA record, three and two, that stuff. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, Brock does crazy stuff in the WWF that seems inhuman that other wrestlers have never been able to do.

Well, what about the story that Skylar Ashton told us? Excuse me, sir, don't bring in WWF. Look at Vince. You guys keep bringing it up. This is the guy

that has 69. He's 70. That's natural. Totally natural. No one has ever looked like that at 69. Brian, if you quit bullshit and get on TRT, that could be you. That guy's 21 years older than me. 22 years older than me.

That's impressive. I'm proud of him. It's insane. Rich as shit. Rich as shit. Muscular as shit. Juice to the tits. Great marketer.

Love it. Crazy. Ooh, look at this. His dick's probably hard all day long. Yeah. I bet he destroys bitches. Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor.

I come from the McGregor clan. Conor McGregor. I spoke my country's name in my native tongue. I said era. I'll tell you what I'm excited about. I can't wait to hear those Irish and Brazilian chants going back and forth. It's going to be Irish. What you can't wait to hear is the sound of head

kicks from the crowd as fucking giant brawls break out. I wanted to shoot myself like a lightning bolt through his chest. You sounded Scottish. Well, he said McGregor's actually from Scotland. Yeah, but you're ruining the accent. Dude, did you see Connor's new tattoo, the tiger on his stomach?

You fucked up, son. You got a nice set of abs like that, and you cover it with that bullshit. And it's such good work, it looks like a 3D image. Oh, look at him. Aldo. Scarface, son. Scarface, son. He's a fucking bad boy.

He's a bad motherfucker. People got to educate themselves on Aldo, man. Aldo's no joke. He's a fucking motherfucker.. He's a bad motherfucker. People got to educate themselves on Aldo, man. Aldo's no joke. He's a fucking motherfucker. Yeah, he's no joke. And he has motivation. Not that he doesn't anyways, but now he's talking all this shit. Like I said, I'm a Connor fan, though.

How can you not be, man? What he's done for the sport is crazy. Did you see how Aldo's brought in the jungle fight guy, Bialino? Is that the bald guy? No. Pull up a video. Jose Aldo brings in Jonas Bialino.

I don't know how to say the dude's name, but the point is the dude who he brought in can emulate Conor perfectly. What? He's built like Conor, and he's a beast. Does he move like Conor? That's the difference. He's good, dude. He's good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to see this guy. First of all, pull up a highlight reel. I love that belt. Wow. Pull up a highlight reel for Jonas, Jungle Fight Champ Jonas, B-I-L-H-A-R-I-N-H-O. I've seen this dude fight before. He's a bad motherfucker.

And he fights 145, and he fights the same style that Conor does. Why the fuck isn't he in the UFC? He will be eventually. I'm sure. He's a beast. I mean, I'm sure he's got a contract with Jungle Fight. He's their champ. You know, it's a big Brazilian organization.

That's trouble for Conor, though, if he found someone to mimic that style because that's the issue with Conor. Watch this cat. This cat's good, dude. Look at Bill Hrino. This is him. They call him Speed, but watch how this guy moves around. He moves around exactly like Conor and he fights Southpaw. Watch how this motherfucker fights. Look at this.

He looks just like him. He's wicked. He's wicked, dude. He's wicked, too. He's got nasty kicks. He's wicked He's wicked dude He's wicked too Damn He's got nasty kicks He's a real good striker Oh He's got a vicious

Look at that Look at that fucking switch kick to the head Dude he's built just like Conor Exactly He looks exactly like him He moves like Conor too Look at this motherfucker Oh

Christ He's good His kicks are better than Conor's How about that Yeah they are He hurts dudes too man He's good Damn Bill Arinos No than Conor's. How about that? Yeah, they are. He hurts dudes, too, man. He's good.

Damn. Bill Hino's no joke, man. Strictly stand-up, huh? No, he's an MMA champ. Jesus. He's nasty, dude. Dude. But look at him.

He's no joke. Look at that. Look at the way he moves, man. Exactly. Oh, my God. This is the guy that Conor's bringing in. And a lot of people think Bill Hino is better than Conor. A lot of people think that he could beat Conor in an MMA fight. Fucking looks good.

Look at his movement, man. Look at his fucking movement. He's no joke. Look at that straight left. Does he have any losses? I don't know, man. I don't know what his record is. I mean, obviously, it's a highlight.

So, yeah, he's a bad motherfucker. Well, you know, look. He moves just like him. He looks exactly like him. There couldn't be a better training partner. He's nasty. I wonder how he's lost, though. He's even wearing his hair like Conor in preparation for this fight.

Damn, all in. Yeah, watch this. Okay, now pull up a video of Aldo training with him. Watch this. Also, he painted his face all white. Look at it. Look how he's doing his hair. He's got his fucking hair up like Conor.

Holy shit, son. He's just like him. Exactly. He's doing all the shit that Conor does. He brought him in to mimic Conor. Dude, I'm putting my entire life savings on Joe Z. See how he's doing? Are you?

Yes. This is a game changer. This kid is a... Yeah. Holy fuck, man. He's just like him. Exactly. And he's, you know, he's got that style of movement in the first place.

All the 360 wheel kicks and roundhouse kicks and all that shit. Dude, that's trouble. It's interesting. It's very interesting. That's fucking mind-blowing. It's very interesting. What is that guy's name again? Bill Arino.

Bill Arino. Where is he from? He's from Brazil. B-I-L-H-A-R-I-N-H-O. Damn. Yeah. I might have a new boyfriend, guys. He's no joke.

He's no joke. I like Connor. He's a better kicker than Connor better He looks like it see Connors kicks are almost disdainful If you watch the way Connor throws his kicks he throws his kicks a lot the way like Like bitch, I'll just throw these kicks out there. So he's six. No he hasn't lost every wins been by TKO he's got one decision damn one submission. We're gonna make a choke. He's got one submission. Damn. One submission. We're going to make a choke. He's a bad motherfucker, dude. Holy fuck, man.

Where does he fight? He fights. He's the jungle fight champion. He's no joke. He's only 25. 5'11". Dude, he's exactly like fucking Connor. Taller than Connor.

Connor's not 5'11". Connor's about 5'9". No, he's 5'11". No, he's 5'11". Connor's not 5'11". Yes, he is. I'm 5'11". Connor's not close to 5'11". You're wrong. When we find out that you're wrong, it's 5'11". Connor's not 5'11". Yes, he is. I'm 5'11". Connor's not close to 5'11".

Ryan, you know when we find out that you're wrong, it's going to be ugly. Take a look at the Instagram picture with us. How much taller am I? You can't go Instagram. What do you mean? He's slouching. I slouch. I stood next to him and I looked very carefully.

You know I look at body types. You have boots on. I'm obsessed with it. You have boots on. You're right. You're right. Thank you. He's 5'9".

Everybody be quiet. Is he? Yes. Yes. Everybody stop talking. Give it up, Callum. Come on, man. I'm trying to give you depth. Oh, sorry. You're right. Thank you. He's 5'9". Everybody be quiet. Is he? Yes. Yes. Everybody stop talking. Give it up, Callan. Come on, man. I'm trying to give you depth.

Oh, sorry. Jesus, man. 5'9". Connor's 5'8". It says there 5'8". Well, I'm 5'8", and honestly, I think he's an inch taller than me. I think that's not correct. Man.

It's tough to say. Fuck, man. That's insane. I don't know. I'm more surprised that he brought in that guy or Callan's right. Bill Arino is a fucking real game changer. Jesus, that's a game changer. Yeah, big game changer because he's going to learn how to deal with that style.

And Bill Arino is explaining to him all the different setups that he does because Bill Arino fights exactly like Conor fights. He sets up kicks and punches in a very, very similar way. And that's huge, man, because when you fight someone like Conor, there He sets up kicks and punches in a very, very similar way. And that's huge, man, because when you fight someone like Conor, there's very few fighters. There's Conor, Lyoto Machida, Ronda Rousey, Stefan Struve, because he's fucking nine foot tall. There's certain guys where you get one shot at.

You can't duplicate it, right? So now you find a guy just like Conor and you're going to see that? Dude, that's a fucking game changer. Exactly. God damn it. I'm's a fucking game changer. Exactly. God damn it. I'm putting a lot of money on Jose. Are you? I'm rooting for Conor, though.

My heart wants Conor, but my brain's like, don't be foolish. I love Jose. I love Conor, too. I have no dog in this fight. I really do. I just want a great fight. I want to live up to the hype. Dana said he thinks he'll be the biggest pay-per-view ever.

It could be. It's not going to be bigger than UFC 100, son. Let's get real. It could be. It could be. Neither one of these guys are bigger stars than Brock. Oh, but internationally they certainly are. Conor McGregor is the biggest star in combat sports history to come out of Ireland.

Wow. Really? What's that saying? There's a lot, man. Ireland has a lot of boxers. I'm talking about boxers. Yeah, but Wayne McCullough, your boy Wayne McCullough comes from. Wayne McCullough.

They have a lot of great boxers that have come from Ireland. Look at this. Not like superstars. Track for over one million pay-per-view boxers. Okay, so not the biggest ever. He just says on track for one million. I misquoted Dana. Don't fucking rip my head off.

Connor thinks it's going to be the biggest ever. Not Dana. Okay, my bad. Dana thinks over a million. Look at that. Look at Joe Rogan. It does over a million for sure. It does over a million, 100%.

Yeah, I think it does over a million. I'm watching that for sure. I think internationally, in Europe especially, I think we really have no idea how big he is. What is the date? It said July. July 11th. Oof. Fire and the Kid won't be at the UFC Expo.

We got some other shit going on. What is that about? How come you guys won't be at the UFC Expo? You can't talk shit about Reebok and show up at the Expo. Is that what's going on? No, I'm just saying. I'm assuming it has a little bit to go on it. But honestly, we got other shit going on. Is that what's going on? No, I'm just saying. I'm assuming it has a little bit to go on it. But honestly, we've got other shit going on.

We've got other shit going on. Listen, if we ever want to do it, what we could do is next time there's a UFC where you guys want to do something, we could just get a studio somewhere at a casino and do a live event. Great. And have a podcast with the three of us. We'd just go on stage live somewhere. Done.

We'll do the weigh-inin and then after the weigh-in we'll do like a 6 p.m. podcast somewhere and then you and I do an 8 p.m. show somewhere, a 9 p.m. show. Yes. Dude. Tony Hinchcliffe, Tom Segura and I will be at the Ka Theater at MGM where they do Cirque du Soleil.

That's a great show. Tom Segura. I just remembered You reminded me I have to I have to figure out Maybe I should email Someone Who like

Knows more But they told us Last time At that ca theater Because it's a Cirque du Soleil theater That we can do like Crazy stuff What do you mean?

Come in like on a zip line You're not coming in on a zip line Too much Do your fucking thing You're trying to be Bellator of comedy now You're trying to be Bellator It You're trying to be Bellator. They told me that I can do something.

No, you can't do that. You just go out there and you do shows. But he has a gold suit on like the Golden Pony. When else do I get to do something like that? It's at a Cirque du Soleil theater, Joe. Your own show. He's censoring you. Don't you want to come in from the bottom and rise up?

You could die. You know a guy died at that Cirque du Soleil theater. Really? Yes. Dying is a comedy. You know wrestling. A comedy damper. Think about who's the guy who fell.

Owen Hart. Fucking Bret the Hitman Hart's brother. Do you want to be Bret the Hitman Hart's brother? Here's girl Jessica Benet. I've got to take a leak before this gets going. I'm excited about this, though. She looks calm, man. Yeah, for sure.

Don't duck lip it, though, to the octagon. She's sexy, bro. Yeah. Don't hate on sexy. I'm not hating on sexy. You're sexy yourself. She looks calm, man. Yeah, for sure don't duck lip it, though, to the octagon. She's sexy, bro. Yeah. Don't hate on sexy. I'm not hating on sexy. You're sexy yourself. Don't hate on sexy. Dude, I just said the winner of this gets a nose job.

Free nose job. Damn it, Brennan. What's wrong with that? But let me tell you something about Joanna. Me and Tony got a couple of beaks ourselves. Yeah. Way to say. Don't throw me under this beak bus.

I don't have a weird nose. Bro, you have the same nose as me. I do not. Beak bus. This beak bus. Bro, we're part of the beak bust. Bro, you have the same nose as me. I do not. Beak bust. This beak bust. Bro, we're part of the beak clan. Guys, my nose is probably smaller than... Well, my nose is right there

with you guys. Johanna is the only one that doesn't have the weird nose out of all the ladies. I don't mind a big nose. I'm waiting for it to get messed up. Tony, I'm with you. I'm with you on Johanna.

I'm with you on Johanna. I have the best nose. I'm with you on Johanna and I like these. Both these girls are attractive to me. I don't you on Johanna. Rhonda has the best nose. Right. I'm with you on Johanna. And I like these. Both these girls are attractive to me. I don't care what anybody says. You're such a pussy. You're so worried about people lashing out at you.

Dude, my Airbnb said they're unable to accommodate my request. Let's do this offline, Callan. Sorry. For 100%. Don't text her in the show. It kind of hurts me. I mean, she's got a wrestler. That's her only chance.

Did you see the... She has to jump to guard. Do you follow Ioana on Instagram? Oh, I don't. Oh, my God. You should look up this thing of her striking the other day. We watched it. Oh, my God.

Ridiculous. She's a fucking animal. An animal. The one where she's hitting the mitts and then sprawls. Wop, wop. Wop, wop, wop. Wop, wop. Sprawling.

She's a fucking monster. She's the best woman striker to ever grace the UFC. Is she going to win this fight in your mind? Oh, you're talking about the fucking minus 700 favorite? Yes, Brian. I think so. Well, Jessica Pene, I mean, it's going to be a tough go for her because she fought

Carlos Esparza, fucking Joanna did, and just dismantled Esparza. So Penny, her only chance, not striking, she's going to have to get her to the ground. It's not wrestling, it's jiu-jitsu. And a couple of Joanna's fights ago, because I've been to quite a few of them, just luckily matched

up with the gigs that I do with Joe, and she just happens to be on the card. Yeah, whatever. And two fights ago, she went all jiu-jitsu against a jiu-jitsu girl and rolled with her man. And her specialty is striking, and she just out-jiu-jitsu'd the jiu-jitsu girl. I think Carla Esparza tried taking her down something like 16 times. It was a success for like once or twice, if that.

And Esparza, I would assume, is a better wrestler than Penny. So she has her hands full. If I'm predicting this, I thinkj knocks her out in the third round like tkos are not knockout tkos in the third round i don't like seeing a girl who's this good at striking just beat up some other girl on the face like cyborg gina carano have you ever seen that fight yes it looked like bully beatdown i was like oh my god and gina crana was a sexy beast she's beautiful sign me the up Sign me the fuck up. Is she in the audience?

I'm too late to ask for her, but I'll make a go at it. You're just not her style, man. Doesn't matter, bro. I don't care. She was dating Superman. Who's Superman? Oh, that guy? Yeah.

Can Superman fight, though? No, he's just a sexy bitch. Yeah, but that's not good enough. If you can't fight, you can't fuck that girl for a long term. Maybe, but I just don't see it. You think she needs a fighter? She's a Weidman or some fucking Luke Rockhold, Brendan Schaub type character to send a dick home. That was a pro football player, right?

Yeah. That was Cowboys quarterback. She's too hot and she's a badass fighter. She's not going to be able to deal with some guy who can't fight and just looks good. What does she walk around? How much does she weigh about? She's not a little girl. Gina's, I'd say, well, when I saw her she was she yeah, she's easily yeah

Yeah, so she's 160 when I saw she's hot. Yes, you know guys you think the girls need to be skinny. You're crazy I don't understand it number. I agree son. I agree guys dude. She's just all woman's son. I agree, guys. Dude, she's just all woman. Gina Carano, to me, is the sexiest female fighter ever. You want to make some gladiator babies? That's your fucking girl. 100%. No doubt. I mean, for real,

man, when she fought Cyborg, Cyborg was at her juiciest juice. That hurt my feelings. That was a hurt feelings fight. I feel like guys should have jumped in there and defended her. Well, it would be a guy fighting a guy. I feel like Roger Huerta should have jumped in then and defended a girl. It's fucked up, man. That was fucked up.

It was such a fucking beatdown. They almost are responsible for the lack of drug testing they did for her. They just didn't give a fuck. How come someone wasn't like, man, I think Cyborg might be juicing. You got this. Tony, her eyes are intense. Look at her eyes. Look at her nose.

See? See what I'm talking about? She's pretty. I think she's pretty. You know what? I agree. I take that back. That nose ain't bad.

Only her and Ronda are the only two that have another nose. Ronda has a good nose. Flattened. You know what? JJ, though, looks better without makeup, I think. Yep. It's when she puts makeup on, where's that goddamn polo top is where it gets trouble. She's such an...

In her country, in Poland, polo tops are hot. It's like Rubenesque. Polo tops are like people in the Renaissance days. You know, like back then, it was good to be Rubenesque. It was sexy. It kept you protected from disease.

Nobody had any food. Polo tops in Berlin are like yoga pants in LA. That's right. First Polish UFC champion, first female European UFC champion. She is... This is what she'd say

under her title, badass bitch. Six-time world Muay Thai champion, first female European UFC champion. She is, this is what she'd say under her title, badass bitch. Six-time world Muay Thai champion, right? 100% legit. You watch her Muay Thai, it's so crisp. First of all, her fucking jab is a laser beam. And it's so fast and so technical. And she has confidence. She's gangster.

Trouble. This is cool. She's so gangster. What's she doing here? That video of her lighting up the pads Jesus Christ. That's impressive I haven't seen it You haven't seen it Jamie pull that video up the video of her from the UFC Instagram page just to get a feel for the fucking hand speed this chick possesses for the UFC

They need her to be a dominant champion to make this Was it strawweight? Yeah, strawweight division Exciting yeah, you need her to just dominate bitches like Ronda is. Because if you have the belt constantly switching, it's hard for people to jump on board. You know what I'm saying? I agree. I agree.

I think people will catch on. Like, her fists are like Ronda's armbar. You know, like she sort of has like this trademark fun thing to watch. Yikes. I would not. What's all of her striking? It's not just her fists. Her fucking elbows are nasty.

Knees, elbows, that bitch is bad. And the clench. No disrespect. Watch this. Look up at that screen. Watch this. Cal, here's your worst nightmares. Damn.

Look at this. Look at her fucking hand speed, dude. And then watch her sprawl. Light it up. Light it up. Light it up. Sprawl. Light it up.

Light it up. Light it up. Sprawl. Light it up. Light it up. Light it up. Sprawl. Come on, son.

Tony, it might be too much, my man. It's too much. Look at how confident she is. Look at how... Jesus, her hand speed is insane. Light it up, light it up, light it up, sprawl. Come on, son. Tony, it might be too much, my man. It's too much for you. Look at how confident she is. Look at how... Jesus, her hand speed is insane. What in the world? I need a girl like that to defend me if I ever make fun of somebody too bad and they get in my face. That looks like it's speeded up.

That camera's speeded up. No, it isn't. Look at the guy. The guy's movement's totally normal. That's sick. Look at the guy's movement. That doesn't look speeded up at all. No, that's not speeded up.

Dude, she's 115 pounds of fury. I'm boxing today, too, man. Watch me. Watch my hit mitts today. No, you're going to throw your hands in the air. You don't know. And you're going to hit things with your hands. You're definitely not boxing.

Yeah, I am. Wayne McCullough makes me wear headgear. Right. God damn it. He hates when I do it. He hates that I fight. He hates it. No, I hate that you think you're fighting.

Yeah, bro. That's what he hates. You don't know. You guys saw that video on me. No, I've seen you think you're fighting. Hey, bro. That's what he hates You know you don't you guys on a video on me. I see you and Wayne Where do you get you sit down during the middle of the round from exhaustion? That's true. I am 48. I Just don't care enough last time I hit and why do I shut up shut up last time I hit mitts. I puked Did you it's so hard. It's it's exhausting do it three times a week well you know what you're you know what it is I'll help both you out get in shape hey bro what's wrong with you hey bro I'm in shape how dare you you gotta sit between rounds I don't have to sit anymore between rounds now I know that's not my energy you know every time you sit I get a text from

someone he's not there Brian's the only guy he doesn't I got multiple I got multiple eyes see me Spartan a long time I got multiple eyes on you Brian's the only guy. Tony doesn't see me spar. I got multiple eyes. Tony hasn't seen me spar in a long time. I got multiple eyes on you. Brian's the only guy who in between rounds. You got people watching me? I text everyone and say, let me know how he does. Brian, is it true that in between rounds when you sit down, a guy comes and fixes your hair? Yes. And wets me down with a towel.

And has a Bentley belt. Is it true that when you're sparring, you get afraid that you're sweating too much? Yeah. He comes over and whispers motivational things in my ear. Does it upset you that you're wetter in round two than in round one? Sometimes. I look good when I'm wet. She's confident

too, man. She's so cool. Dude, she's a badass. I would eat her ass. You get nose deep in that ass? You probably have to. She's going to my son. I mean elbows just to save You can eat that ass you're not eating dinner that night. It's gotta be nerve-racking Kiss kiss later nose to nose nose and nose beak to be Peaked to be peaked to be dog. Let explain something to you, all you fucking guys right now.

You got to get your jab in her face, and you got to just follow up with a fucking serious kick. Shh. Okay, predictions? Third round TKO by uppercut. Ioana, round two. Roger Huerta jumps in. There we go. This is the fight we're watching.

This is the first of all these fights. Does anybody know who won the Caligari fight? No idea. Caligari won by decision. Jesus. JJ, bring those shorts up. Well, Penne, I like the way she's moving. Me too.

Light on the feet. Me too. Throwing up a nice crisp jab. Me too. I just changed my mind. Yoana, TKO round one. I would jump to guard if I'm Penne. Look at that jab.

I like that jab. Fuck you, you motherfucker. Don't kid yourself, guys. Penna's been training hard. Dude, that jab that Ioana has is like one of my favorite jabs in all of MMA. I agree. She mixes it up to the body, too. Look at that.

She goes low. Guess you're standing in the pocket, though. Left hook. Penna's standing right there in the pocket, guys. It's a bad idea, Callan. Yeah, but do you understand what standing in the pocket means a world champion exchange yeah like these aren't exchanges she's getting feeling around there you go that's what you gotta do son jump to half guard jump to half guard guys can i tell you something pen is the real deal well penne has very good takedowns i'll

tell you that you saw that on the ultimate fighter she's really good at hip tosses good luck taking fucking jj down she's to take her down, bro. Yohana's taking her back. Yohana's behind her. Brian, you realize this isn't a takedown. Well, she's got a headlock, man. She's got a judo headlock. Throw your hips in.

Rhonda loves this fucking position. Big difference between Olympic judo and fucking penne. Look at this. She escapes. Rhonda's a judoka. Penne is fucking... She's taking some shots, man. Covering up and keeping her eyes open.

I'll tell you what. I don't like JJ's long board shorts me neither Yeah shoulders around her shoulders keeping her protecting her chin She's throwing a Chuck Liddell style right Don't let that fucking Roy Nelson right hand hit fucking Penny. Oh, look at this. Oh, great timing by Penny. Look at this. Oh, I like this, son. Take down.

Right back up. Right back up. I'm not going to lie to you guys. I'm going for Penny. Really? Kind of. How come? I don't know, man, because she's such an underdog.

I agree. Wow. Brandon, I'm with you. I am really liking Joanna's takedown defense. The UFC needs JJ to win, but... It's fitting that her name's Penny, because Joanna's gonna beat her like a wet noodle. See what I did there?

By the way, that's good takedown defense. Look at this balance. Look at this takedown defense. Joe hates it when I do jokes. He's disappointed. He's disappointed. I hate it when I see them coming down the fucking train track. Well, not everybody sees them coming. I didn't see them fucking flashing lights.

It's a macaroni joke coming your way. Oh, my God. Don't let them suppress you. You keep with the jokes. Whoa, nice knee to the body. That's what Penne has to do, man. Hey, guess what? Penne's going to tire her out.

You guys, I told you this. Oh! Nasty elbow on the clinch. Nasty elbow. She can hold on for life, but it's not going to save her. I see a fucking foot go in her face pretty soon here. This is a five-round fight, kids. Yes, sir.

Oh, don't do that. Good left hook. Penne can take it, I'll five round fight, kids. Yes, sir. Oh. Don't do that. Good left hook. Panay can take it, I'll tell you that, man. Yeah, she can. She's taking some good shots. Yeah, I mean, they're 115 pounds. Who's Jessica training with? Panay, she trains with... Oh, look at that. Nice timing. She trains at Bouchessa's gym

for Jiu-Jitsu. I know she goes there all the time. She was at Reign for a long time, and then she also trains at Ruka. I'll be honest with you, man. She trains at R then she also trains at uh ruka i'll be honest with you man with uh bisbing's i'll be honest with you i'm excited about oh look at that there you go there's your champ stand up come on yeah she's gonna catch her any second You hope I know How sad are you gonna be if she gets submitted, Tony? It's impossible

She doesn't get tired Jessica got hurt She got hurt Oh, elbow She's tucking her head in good Look how Good fucking hips by Ioana. Did a great job.

You can't elbow the back of the head. Yeah, I know, right? That was a little slightly illegal. Minute to go. You get a warning, but fuck's going up. She's got to survive here. Go to your butt and recover. There you go.

Just sit there. Chill. Fuck your legs. Let her kick the legs. Cool. Chill and recover. Yeah, but she needs those legs. Well, she needs her fucking cobwebs.

But those are girl legs. Girl legs are all soft They can't take not JJ's Fucking bats little sinewy look at those little snaps Weird See she's recovering this is smart man. It is smart super smart Yeah, she's dropped to the's the exact same thing you do. Letting her cobwebs clear up a little bit here.

And she's, look at this, butt scooting, standing them up. That's a good way to get back up to your feet clean, too. Do the butt scoot, they back up, they don't want to butt scoot. Okay, Jessica Panay, man, she's game as fuck. Game as fuck, dude. Don't kid yourself. Come on, Jessica. And you know what?

Oh! Take it down. That's a legit take down. What the fuck, dude. Don't kid yourself. Come on, Jessica. And you know what? All this- Oh! Take it down. That's a legit take down. What the fuck? Oh, it's the round. Was that a take down? Was that a take down?

Yes, it was. It was 100% legit. She still lost the round. Legit take down. But she's showing that she's game as fuck, but she's still hanging in there. Come on, Jessica. Don't worry. And by the way, you know, you got to think that this is fucking wearing on- making her

fight that kind of grueling grappling exchanges exchanges is gonna wear on you Anna. Yeah, and she's gonna slow down Yep, mmm Oh With a right hand look at this very nice Look at that great timing great timing on that shot. She's the real deal man Great timing great timing on that shot. She's the real deal man But she's forcing her to wrestle and when she forces her to wrestle look at this you want a nice nasty elbow on the claim And that's the one that popped in. Yeah, she's right inside man doesn't She is mean man. She's mean

Well, you know how hard life is in Poland if you look like that Yep, and if you're a fighter. Skinny little wiry chick. Hard life, man. Hard life. The boys aren't knocking at the door to take you on dates. Tony is. Tony is. She's got one of the funniest guys on the planet after her.

When they stick it in, they're not nice. She's funny, too. She's got a good sense. She always makes cracks jokes. All she needs to see you is at a show and she'll fall in love. That's right. Well, Tony, should we set this up, or what? Joe, can I open for you in Poland?

Tony. Let's see if Jessica Benet does anything different. Damn, JJ's sitting on her shots now. She's throwing, like, these one punches, one and one, two, and you just can't do that with Joanna. She's just so ready to be there right when that second punch gets pulled back. Well, especially if you're looking for a takedown. You gotta throw more in one shot than shoot.

Especially if she doesn't anticipate a third or fourth punch coming. Like, no change of angles, no uppercuts. So she's looking for the one. If she throws the one, the two's coming behind it, and that's about it. And she knows she's gonna be right there, pulling back, and then countering instantly when that punch

pulls back. Yeah, JJ's too high level to get caught with that bullshit. And that running is tough. There you go. Just close the gap, though. Look at this. Joanna with the clinch here, man. Joanna gets Panay. But she's got to be careful of that head.

The way she leaves that head there. Panay, when you watch The Ultimate Fighter, she took a lot of girls down from that headlock position. And look at this. The judo toss from the headlock position. I'd like more head kicks out of JJ, I'll be honest. Let's fucking let's go, girl. Well, she doesn't do it because she worries about people taking her down.

Tell you what, Panay is standing right there, man. Fuck yeah, she is. She's tough, dude. Yep, on her toes. She's good. Really good job. Oh! In the face! Straight left. Ouch! That jab face! I taste my feet. Straight left.

Ouch. That jab to the body is nasty, too. Oh, look at this combination. Penny's reaching. Yeah, that combination is nasty. This fight's close to being over, gentlemen. Yeah, it's getting rough. It's getting rough.

Penny's taking a beating here. Watch this kick. Come on, Penny. Last of the third round. Yeah, I love the movement of Ioana. The way she slides away from things and then comes right back in and attacks. There's those head kicks. She's loosening up now Yeah, like it man like it goddamn Oh, she wins.

Oh, nasty blood. God damn, son. Her nose just opened up. Her nose is wide open. Oh, that's... This fight's over. This fight's over. Fuck! Look at this combination.

God damn, that hand speed is ridiculous. Holy shit. Meanwhile, look at that. Oh, look at that. In the clinch, she lands an elbow right to that same spot on the nose. This is smart of Penny. Fuck, yeah. Penny's a bad bitch.

She needs to bleed inside of Joanna's ear. Just get her nose in her ear and bleed in there. Penny is not... She can take serious punishment, man. She has to. What the fuck else can she do, bro? Look at that splatter. That elbow was nasty.

Her nose is splattering. Oh! Ooh, JJ's comfortable, hands down. Is this the most... Oh, tax that nose, hands down. Is this just a leaf? Oh, tags that nose. Look at this. Look at her face. Oh, my God.

Head kick just barely missed. Jump to half guard. You want to set up the left high kick. It's coming, son. When she goes southpaw. Yeah. Look at her. It's coming.

Covered in her opponent's blood. Oh, look at that combo. Knee, knee, knee. Three knees. Oh, look at that combo. Knee, knee, knee. Oh, another elbow, son. Elbow in the clinch. I'll tell you what, I've never seen a female fighter fuck another girl up with this much damage, ever. Look at her face, man. This is insane.

She looks like a monster movie. Yeah, she does. She has a giant gash on her nose, man. Real quick, Tony, you're still into this? I love this. Look at my girl. She's covered in her opponent's blood like a fucking warrior, and you're still attracted more attracted, okay? Good, honey. I like winners. Good job, Tony. That's all the gay and Tony coming to the surface

manifesting itself in the form of a Honey, it's not afraid of a real woman you you fucking you chauvinists. He's appearing. He's Imagining her with a strap-on right now He's appearing, he's imagining her with a strap on right now. Oh, come on! What about Caitlyn Jenner? Oh, her left eye is closed! Her right eye is all fucked up too, man. Dude, I've- oh, Jesus, look at this combo!

How tough is Jessica Panay? Remember, JJ's 115 pounds fucking girls up like this. You don't see damage like this in the female division. Look at that kick to the body. God! Damn! How about Jessica Panay? Jessica Panay is a bad, bad, bad motherfucker.

Yeah, she is. It's fitting that her name's Penne because it looks like she has tomato sauce all over her face. That's good. It was a better one. That's a good one. It was a better one. You doubled up on these feelings. Her name is Penne.

You got another problem. But I saved the better one for second. It's so hard to fight somebody this good. Look at this. Look at all the blood. I mean. It was a tomato sauce joke. Come on.

Wait until the third round so Big Brown's prediction's right. No, no. Ouch. Ouch. Oh, a head kick. Oh, Jesus Christ. What do you do against somebody like this? I got a new favorite female fighter.

Yeah, she's a beast, bro. Yeah, Penny's tough. No, I'm just kidding. JJ's my favorite. Ouch. No. No. No.

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No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No! No! No! No, wait for the third! Look, 15 seconds. Speed. Look at this fucking combination. My God. I said third round TKO, baby. Dude, this is so impressive. And look at this. Panay is still working for the takedown.

No! She's super flexible, son. Wow. Yes, going to the third. This thing's TKO in the third, baby. I want to see Fowler do a corner. I am so impressed with her. It's like I'm a fucking oracle. I want to see Fowler do a corner. I am so impressed with her. It's like I'm a fucking oracle.

I am so fucking impressed with her. My God. I love her. Look at her. Fuck you. Look at the gash on her nose, man. They're going to stop that. Oh, my God.

Look at the cut on her nose. I've never seen a cut on her nose like that before on a woman's fight. Now, bear with me here. Now, because it's a female, will they stop it earlier than if it was a male? Wait for it? It depends. There's not a lot of experience with female fighting. We're in Germany, right?

Oh my God, that's a huge gash on her nose, man. Well, they put adrenaline on it and they could try to close it up. They close it up with Vaseline. Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch. Fuck that. I think it was an elbow

that lit her up. It was an elbow. Oh, Jesus Christ. That was it right there. Immediately the blood flows. JJ's my favorite fighter now. Hey, Tony, I'm on board. I don't want to fuck her, but she's my favorite fighter. I'm telling flows. JJ's my favorite fighter now. Hey, Tony, I'm on board. I don't want to fuck her, but she's my favorite fighter.

I'm telling you. She's my favorite fighter. I'm fucking in, man. This bitch is bad. Hey, real quick. I've never watched her fight. I'm going to be honest. I don't watch a lot of girl fights.

To see Ronda fight somebody in that weight class with this kind of striking would be very interesting. Absolutely. Not really. Ronda would grab a hold of her and fucking toss her 20 feet in the air. Look at her nose, man. Oh, my God. Her nose is just totally smashed.

What a badass. You've got to give it up, man. Oh, Jessica Benet is no joke, dude. Jessica Benet is. No, you don't get to this level without fucking being tough. Come on, man. This is different. This is more than tough.

This is transcendent. Well, for sure relaxed, Brian. This is fucking. Well, no, easy. Jesus Christ. I won't easy. No, for sure take it easy. Good God.

Come on, Jessica. Wow. Come on, girl. Throw down DKO, baby. Here we go. So impressed with Jessica Panay's toughness, man. So impressed. Ouch, ouch.

Keep your hands up. Please keep your hands up. Dude, I've never seen a little 115-pound female fighter fuck a girl up like this in my entire life. She's so good. Cyborg doesn't do this to girls. She throws those fucking sledgehammers of hands out. But she doesn't have this kind of technique. No.

Ouch. Keep your hands up. Please keep your hands up. Dude, I've never seen a little 115-pound female fighter fuck a girl up like this in my entire life. She's so good. Cyborg doesn't do this to girls. She throws those fucking sledgehammers of hands out. But she doesn't have this kind of technique.

No. What? Everything's calculated. Look at the welts above and below her eye. Don't let her get... Jesus Christ. Who's next for JJ? No bitch wants to sign up for this?

Claudia Gadea and her had a really close fight. She won a split decision. Yeah, you're talking about the 2.0 JJ. Yeah, well, she had a really close fight. She won a split decision. Yeah, you're talking about the 2.0 JJ. Yeah, well, she's a different JJ now. She's a champ. She's definitely different. She's got the another elbow. For sure, finish this round some right, though, JJ.

What are you talking about? What? It froze. It froze? Yeah. Well, reboot it, man. Reboot it. This is going for the fight.

It'll be over. Just reboot it. Reboot it. Bull is going for the final video. Just reboot it. Reboot it. Bullshit. Can they hear us? This is a hell of a fight. The recording is still live, right? Recording?

Yeah. Oh, word. Jessica Benet is not tired. Contact that dude. The wind is amazing. She's tired. But look at her wind. She keeps moving, man.

Benet's tough as fuck, dude. She is definitely tough as fuck. Ouch, ouch, ouch. She's so tough, man. She just doesn't have an answer to this. No. Who does? Look at the swelling all over her face.

Look at her. Still moving her head. Still. Pene is definitely game. God, is she ever. Oh! Hands up. God damn.

Hands up. God, I'm stressed out right now. Ooh. A little left hook. God. Come on, Pene. She's so tough. She's so fucking tough.

Why are you stressed out? I don't like to see girls get fucked up, man. Oh. Really? I don't. I don't either. I'm exhausted. I, a little left hook. Come on, Penny. She's so tough. She's so fucking tough. Why are you stressed out? I don't like to see girls get fucked up, man. Oh, really? I don't. I'm exhausted. I don't either, Brendan. I don't either. You're exhausted?

I'm exhausted. I hate it. I'm cringed. I don't feel, I feel sick. I know. My hands feel numb. JJ is a fucking nightmare machine. She hasn't been touched.

She's no joke. She's no joke. That's for sure, man. Her technique is so beautiful to watch. I want to see her go to the body. I want to see her go to the body. I want to see her go to the body. I like how she switches up, too. Southpaw or orthodox, either one equally effective.

That jab is ridiculous. God damn. Ouch. Jessica Panay with the clinch. You want to go a little careless there. Jessica trying to drag her to the ground. Come on, Jessica. Jessica dragging her to the ground. Look at this.

Hard to get her down, man. She's going to knock her nose off of her face. Look at all the blood just squirting on the knee of Ioana. It's squirting out of that girl's face. This is a hell of a fight. Fuck yeah it is, man. I think it's interesting that the UFC

as male-centric as it has been for so long, is a leader in feminist, like a feminist activity. Like a leader in women's fighting and it's as exciting as men's right now. Well, there's no women's boxing of any prominence right now. You don't know of any women's champions.

Nobody talks about it. In the other leagues, there's just not. Well, there's Invicta, right? They're all female, but to this level. Yeah, in kickboxing, I mean, there's just not. Well, there's Invicta, right? They're all female. Yeah, and kickboxing. I mean, there's only a lion fight that has women's Muay Thai fights. You don't see. Timebomb, she's a motherfucker. She's a badass bitch.

Dude, I just watched the other day. I was so impressed. I had to tweet it out. I was like, goddamn, Tiff Timebomb's a beast. She's a beast. Get a girl like that to learn how to fucking. Attractive, too, son. Get a girl like that to learnive too son Get a girl like that

To learn how to sprawl Right Enjoy that Well you got JJ on your hands There you go Well she's at that same level If not higher Yeah she's a

Multi-temperature Just measuring shots Just out of reach And Tiffany could go Do some modeling If she wanted to You know what I'm saying That's when you get a superstar

Not that JJ can't be a superstar Elbows man Those elbows in tight JJ go ahead And finish her for me girl Hey Brennan When your nose superstar. Not that JJ can't be a superstar. Elbows, man. Those elbows in tight. JJ, go ahead and finish her for me, girl. Hey, Brennan, when your nose is that way, what does the doctor do there? Stuff it? Not much they can do.

They put things in it, like up it, but then in the back, they set your nose. I've had my nose set twice. They set it. But your adrenaline has to stay up. Oh! That's terrible. That's it. But your adrenaline has to stay up. Oh! That's terrible. Fucking right hand. That's it. That's it. That's it. Big Brown called it.

Third round TKO, son. Big Brown nailed it. That was crazy. She's a beast. She is a fucking beast. Scary. Look at that blood on the side of her face. No one wants a piece of that, son. Who's next? Is that what she said? Who's who's next yeah what if she looked at the camera and said tony you're getting fucked tonight i love it what is next what a fucking badass she's so cool

god she's a beast man mad respect for jessica no doubt he's a fan favorite now. You cannot be a fan of Penny. She's so tough. Oh, look at her fucking nose, dude. Look at her nose. Oh my god. Jesus Christ. Oh my god. I need that nose job. Now, when you get a gash like that, that opens up easily. That opens up easier the next time, right? Scar tissue.

Well, yeah. On the nose, it's not too bad. It's on the eyes where you're in trouble. I mean, that. Look at that. They're gonna repair it. It's on the eyes where you're in trouble. I mean, look at that. They're going to repair it. They'll do a great job. Did you see, who the fuck showed Raquel Pennington? Raquel Pennington had a big gash on her forehead, and then she made pictures of it before and after.

The job that they did repairing it, they did an amazing job. You can't even see the scar. I don't know how the fuck they did it. I mean, they have really good plastic surgeons these days. Scar tissue's a motherfucker, man. Yeah. And people scar differently. Black people, they tend to get more keloid scars.

For some reason, their scars, they have thicker welt-type scars. They stick up higher. Depends on the person. It depends. It's a lot of it's genetic. I had a nose job after I fought Cro Cop. He shattered my nose with an elbow. And I was worried.

I was like, God, am I going to be fucked from now on? The doctor's like, no, your nose probably won't ever break again. Because the way they structure it, they're so advanced now, it's stronger. Wow. Stronger after you break it. Yeah. How do they do it they're so advanced now. It's stronger Wow stronger after you break it Yeah, how do they do it? What are they doing? I'm not sure cuz he threw an elbow it like shattered my nose into pieces right put like a mesh net in it almost Oh, okay, so that mess isn't touched look at her fucking face look at Jessica's face

I kind of feel bad dude how about what she gonna look like in six hours. That's awful man Look at this fucking monster not touched not touched She's bad. I get somebody that far ahead of you and striking. What are you gonna? Do I mean she's so try and take them down cuz she's far ahead of her in grappling, but not just a yeah Not just far ahead and striking but takedown defense as well unbelievable take down. Yeah, I take down defense is nasty Dan Hardy rocking the fucking Converse All-Stars. She's totally about to take his mic from him. If he let the other ones have it, she's going to run it.

Crank this up so we can hear this. And again, and again, and again. And I'm going to be a champion for a while. Nobody going to take this back from me. I say to Jessica, this fight is going to be a war. Not really. It's more of a beat. Well, it's the kind of war like when the UFC has a war like this. It's sort of like when the United States invades Afghanistan.

Yeah. It's kind of a war. I guess. Or we're just bullies. It's not like we got touched. God. Come on. Or we're just bullies. It's not like we got touched. Yeah. God. Come on, give me a shout out. Could you imagine?

My number one fan, Tony Hinchcliffe, Golden Pony. Golden Pony, I'm coming. I ride you to success and victory. Oh, I think she said it. It's our belt. Look at this. Boom. Get to the face, it. It's our belt. Look at this. Boom! Get to the face, kid.

That's no fun. Oh, yeah. Look at this elbow. Boom! Boom! Oh! JJ's my favorite fighter. Boom!

Her angles are amazing. Boom. Damn it. Yeah, Mark R has seen enough. God damn, she's good. I agree with you, Big Brown. This is so important for this division to have a dominant champ like that to really make everybody excited about it.

Think if there's no Ronda at 135. What do we do? Not much. What do you do? It changes nonstop. What's there's no Ronda at 135. What do we do? Not much. What do you do? It changes nonstop. It's going to change nonstop. Yeah. There's nothing.

That's the problem with Ronda at that weight class, though, is that unless Cyborg can get down to 135, who do you anticipate is even a challenge? Well, Ronda's a different story because she's such a dominant champ and she's just destroying it. Now it's like, all right, this isn't cool. Like, she's moved past that point. For 115 we need it, but Ronda's already gone

past that point. Where we have to have some sort of competition. Because I bet when she fights in Brazil, I bet the numbers aren't great. Because she's destroying bitches. So you get the Mike Tyson effect where you're too good. Where it's like, hold up, I'm not going to spend $70 to see her merc some girl in

15 seconds. Not that she's not fighting good fighters, but people assume that they're not good and Ronda's just being spoon fed, which is not true. Oh, look at that fucking elbow. Do you think Betch Koheya has a chance? Absolutely not. She has nothing? Oh, really, Betch?

And you're going to talk shit about Ronda's dad committing suicide? You fucked up, son. She did? Yeah. Well, she said gonna talk shit about Rhonda's dad commit suicide you fucked up. She did yeah Well, she said you're gonna come on. Yes doesn't commit suicide after the fight She didn't apparently said she didn't know that her dad's suicide. You don't believe her no I don't believe her I think she got too much heat and then she was like ah fuck Hmm, but but you give Rhonda a reason to break your motherfucking arm? Because her dad? What? Dude, she's in trouble. But the UFC's doing everything they can to be like,

all right, this one's going to be close. We're center to Brazil to fight in the home country of Betch. Yeah. No, come on. Wow. It's too much, man. It's not Ronda's fault, but the public views it as, oh, they're just tossing anyone to Ronda.

But that's what's best available. It's not Ronda's fault. There's public views it as, oh, they're just tossing anyone to Ronda. But that's what's best available. It's not Ronda's fault. There's your girl, Tony. Look at her. Yeah, I'm keeping my eye on these coaches of hers. They're getting a little touchy. Keep your fucking hands off my girl. She's so good, man.

Does she have a nickname? No, they need to make one for her. God. I just refer to her as JJ. JJ's a good name for her, man. I like JJ. You can market that, man. Yeah.

No, I like JJ. I think you nailed it. The other one, the Jerk-a-Dick, I don't think we should use that one. I just didn't know what to say. Jerk-a-Dick. I took some heat for that. Jerk-a-Dick's a thing. I'm so impressed with her, man.

Me too, man. Her fucking technique is so spectacular. Scary little thing. Me too, man. Her fucking technique is so spectacular. Scary little thing. She's so good. Dude, I've never seen a female fighter just destroy a girl and break her down and do that damage. Better than Cyborg. Way better than Cyborg. Way better.

Way more skillful. And not just overwhelmingly physically dominant. It's all technique. Yes. Because she's destroying girls with submissions, but she's not like cutting, breaking them down, destroying them. This girl, Claudia Gedalia and her had a very close fight. This is the next one in line. Because Claudia Gedalia, they went to a fucking split decision.

They went to war, man. And Gedalia took her down. Like, Gedalia's no joke. Damn, this Gedalia's pretty... And by the way, I thought Gedalia won the fight. Wow. I thought Gedalia won the decision. I thought it was very close, but I thought Gedalia won it. Yep. Brazilian? Yeah. 12 and 1, and that 1 is to Ioana. Wow. I thought Cadellia won the decision. I thought it was very close, but I thought Cadellia won it.

Brazilian? Yeah, 12-1 and that one is to Ioana. Damn, man. The one is to Ioana and the one was a very fucking close fight. Very close fight. I don't think they give her to JJ next. How long ago did they fight? I want to say a year and a half ago. You're dealing with a confident JJ

right now. Yeah, it was before her title fight. It was to set up the title fight with Esparza Michelle Watterson's in their division now though She's not she's in the UFC now. Oh really? Yeah, she's like she looks heavily musk muscled. I wonder if some of that is a help. Yeah Yeah, yeah, she might test positive. Michelle Watterson, though, submitted Jessica Penne.

Michelle Watterson's a beast. Yeah. She is a beast. She's very good. From Jackson's, yeah. You want to talk about someone who's super marketable, Michelle Watterson, because she's really pretty, too. Yeah, that's true. Well, they need that, man, and they need to make sure that she's ready because she won't be pretty after she...

This girl tends to unprettyify you. I agree. Yes, she does. Who's next? Who's next? Next, next, next. She's got a lot. She's only 27 too, man. She's what they need. What does she study? Just strict Muay Thai?

Because that looks like boxing. She's a six-time world champion. She's definitely got great hands as well. It's all from Holland? Dutch kickboxing? Muay Thai is boxing as well. There's a lot of Muay Thai fighters. Yat-sen-klai is a fucking badass boxer. Muay Thai is not meaning that they don't have good hands,

especially today, in this day and age. Before guys like Ramon Decker came over to Holland, a lot of those guys didn't concentrate on the hands as much. But once the European guys and once some of the American guys started going over to Thailand and fighting, you started to see a lot more hand techniques from the Thais. The elbows are the motherfucker, because people are really good with elbows, man.

They do so much damage. Yeah, they're doing so much damage. Like her, like what she did. Yes, or look at crow cop Conor McGregor 2008. Well crank that up. Oh well My look at him. He yells. It's all over his face. He's not looking sharp. He really stepped his game up He's got a big head, huh? Yes, he does. Good-sized noggin. I'm the future. That's when he was like 16.

Damn, man. You know, he was about to retire two years ago. Yeah. About to retire. He had a friend. Apparently his friend got so battered up in a fight that they told him never fight again. Yeah. He was really worried, like thinking about his life, going, fuck, what am I doing? Was out of the gym as coach called him because the UFC offered him a fight that they told him never fight him fight again yeah he was really worried like thinking about his life going fuck what am i doing it was out of the gym as coach called him because the ufc offered him a fight he didn't answer the phone he told the story on the podcast he didn't

answer the phone over and over again finally he was like ah fuck it i'll pick it up how crazy anderson silva same thing we basically was going to walk away and no gear was like no man let's let's see what happens keep going they get signed by the UFC and does fuck I didn't work on Chris Lieben Yeah, he was retired and no Gary. That's why he owes his career that he says that he goes I owe everything to no Gary because big nog was like no man. Just keep going for a little bit Let's see what happens and he talked him in the what does Anderson do now? I mean he's in this weird predicament to with the drug testing where they apparently they found like he had two two samples and Where they apparently they found like he had two two samples and one of them tested positive

And the other one from a different lab did not test positive. So this is dispute as to which one was correct That's weird the thing that bothers me is he just denies it like he should just come out back listen My leg was fucked up. I used some stuff to get my leg better. I think he said that I don't think he did He's beyond what From what I've heard, he's denied every bit of it. Really? Because he went on the Ultimate Fighter and he was like, I've never taken steroids. This is bullshit. It's all a scam. I thought he said Anderson. I thought they said Anderson admitted

to taking something to heal his leg, but it was out of competition. And then once he, because he tested positive more than once, you know. Tested positive before the fight in camp and because he tested positive more than once, you know. Yeah. Tested positive before the fight in camp. And then he tested positive again after the fight. But he tested negative after the first positive. I'm always fascinated with those moments in your life where one person says one thing to you and it changes the course of your life.

What do you mean? You know what I mean? Like when somebody goes, hey, don't quit. Keep going. Maybe one more and you think of those times that were seminal in your life That one person one teacher one guy who says one productive thing or one negative thing. Well, I stopped competing I stopped fighting and I focused 100% on comedy because this one kid at an open mic night Said to me that I was really good when I first started but I've drifted off oh i was like fuck he's right i really was i didn't even get upset i was like he's right it

was like six months in it stung it fucking stings it stung so important though so important to hear that joe sit with it i was i was telling brian um the talk we had right about not fighting anymore and how i need to move on uh but we was talking to Nate Morquart's head coach. And I sent him what Nate tweeted out, how he made all the excuses. And they tweeted back to me, yeah, he wasn't feeling it. He was sick. I'm like, no, no, no, no. I get that.

I get that. It's time to move on, man. You have got to tell him. It's your guys' duties to move on. And then it hit me i'm like this is why fucking joe was so honest with me because if you kind of skimp around it and you leave that you know like you kind of leave an open door worried about their feelings i can come up with a million excuses why i can be world champ you know i'm saying but you have to fuck it's

gonna hurt like a motherfucker and might ruin career. But you just fucking hit him right straight, man. You got to be dead honest. Because even his coaches were like, no, he can figure this out. I'm like, no, no, no, motherfucker. It's over. You have got to tell him it's time to move on. Like, yeah, but he might do this. For what?

So the UFC gives him these young lines and they make a name off of him? For what, man? There's things we're seeing where it's not good. these young lines and they make a name off of them for what man he has he there's just there's things we're seeing where it's not good yeah there's a certain point in time where your your time is past you and you got to understand when that time is and the only way to understand when that time is is you have to be objective with yourself you have to be honest with yourself and you need someone to tell you you can't be objective and honest with yourself because you don't get to an elite level of fighting being objective you don't because you know do i still believe i can be a champion yeah i do no you know no matter especially

now like what if orlovsky beats verdum and then you look at orlovsky in your fight which is you could have easily won that fight i definitely beat him but you look at that and you go well i can be champ yeah yeah which which is great but to me it's like um when when i never it never hit me till i was talking to nate and i was like oh my god this is what joe did with me like you you have to be so fucking honest and you can't tiptoe around their feelings because they're not going to get it it's really weird like sometimes you'll see like that was the first time like i appreciate but that literally last week was the first time i ever was like oh my god i get it because fighters you don't get to that level without

this crazy confidence man and people people tell you stuff and sometimes It's not good you have to block that out and just keep going well It's also different than anything else like if you were a musician no one would ever talk to you like that But the difference between being a musician making bad songs and being a fighter and getting punched in the face Is that you're gonna suffer for the rest of your life with any unnecessary? is that you're going to suffer for the rest of your life with any unnecessary damage that you take. And the more you can stop that, the more you can have a great rest of your life. You know what a friend told me, though, when we were arguing about Nate?

I'm like, bro, I'll fucking talk to him, right? Because me and Nate are very close. And I was like, I'll talk to him. But he goes, all right. He goes, the difference between Joe talking to you and you talking to Nate is you have other options. I don't have to ever fight again. I'm fucking fine, man. My life's actually better now. I'm not fighting so much.

Way better. What's Nate going to do? True. Or any fighter. No, I'm just saying. Other fighters, I don't know. Coach. Yeah, it's hard.

Dude, what? It's hard. Well, most guys don't prepare for it. Four kids? They also don't have that kind of personality that you have that translates really easily into podcasting and fucking around and being fucking around Well, there you doing you guys are having fun. I'm getting paid fucking around. Yeah, you know you're fucking around and cracking jokes And you know that's it's entertaining and he's not that guy He's not entertaining but the guy was talking I can say his name

But he just goes he goes that's easy for you to say cuz you can walk away and you're going to make more money not fighting. So you're like, yeah, see ya. Everything's great and dandy. These other fighters, they don't have that man to fall back. There's no 401k. There's no retirement plan. Nate has four kids, a wife, a mortgage, bills. Fighting's his number one source of income.

You see him and then at least he's not getting stunned with every shot that lands like Gray Maynard. Gray Maynard bugs me. I really like that guy. Love Gray Maynard. He's a good dude and a great fighter, and he came that close to winning the world title. And now you see him, and he gets lit up, and you see his body just starts short-circuiting.

It's heartbreaking, man. It's hard. What if Reebok did this to help fighters out? This is a little off. What if Reebok said, all right, to help fighters out? Because you're only getting paid when you fight, right? So guys are hustling, trying to figure things out. What if, and obviously Reebok has the money, and obviously UFC has the money because they're

drug testing every fucking fighter a million times, which is expensive. What if Reebok did a monthly payment system where you're not forced to take fights, where you're not getting injured and showing up for fights? What if he did a monthly plan? It's not they don't have enough money There's not enough money invested in this you think about the 70 million dollars that Reebok put in over six years, which is nothing Yeah, it's not much 70 million to Reebok nothing but to give people enough money to live comfortably. I didn't say comfortably I'm just saying it helps out because the fighters are losing tons of monthlies, right?

Yeah, so you make that up and they're not you're not you know I didn't say comfortably. I'm just saying it helps out because the fighters are losing tons of monthlies, right? Yeah. So you make that up and they're not risking fighting injured, stuff like that, brain trauma. They're getting monthlies. Does that make sense? Maybe, but you know what? The real problem is securing a future outside of fighting. And a guy like you, you have more potential outside of fighting now than anybody and more than you've ever had before and as your podcast your podcast is fucking giant right now and it's growing at this crazy rate where you guys are millions and millions of downloads every month it's going to

keep going and going and going and going and going and just getting stratospheric they don't have that they don't if and you have all this thing. You have something to work for. You see progress and excitement. It's like you're making a smooth transition. These guys, they don't have that. And when they don't have that, there's literally nothing. Talk to your boy Shane. What is Carwin doing? He's working as an engineer.

That is just not the same as being the fucking heavyweight champ of the UFC. It's not the same of the glory when he smashed frank meir you know when he smashed frank meir and got a hold of him to tie them up in that clinch just ripping those fucking uppercuts i mean that is glory just glory on the highest level excitement on the highest level and when that ends and all of a sudden you're getting a paycheck and the government gets a big piece of that paycheck. That paycheck is not much anyway. No. Yeah, like it's depressing to talk about it, which is true. For fighters, most, you know, it's my reference is all dogs don't go to heaven.

Fighting is not like the movies, man. This ain't a Mark Wahlberg movie where the credits roll and he's walking off in the sunset with a bag full of money. It's usually not like that, man. And we all know, guys, that when we talk to them, we see the diminishing things. We see their eyes not focusing right. We see their gait. One of the things that bothered me about watching Nate fight was how close his stance was. There's something that

happens when fighters get hit a lot where their legs, they start moving their stance closer and closer together. And it's just like, they don't have that wide, like, you know, see Connor fights, he's got this wide stance. and closer together. And it's just like they don't have that wide, like, you know, see Connor fights. He's got this wide stance. Athletic stance. When guys get hit a lot, they start moving their legs closer and closer together.

And it's almost like their balance is fucked. Their motor skills are affected. You know, it's one of the things that I talked to, Guy Metzger is working with this company in Dallas that rehabilitates people from traumatic brain injuries. And it's one of the things that they talked about is the gate. Like you could see the differences in the way people stand and the way they move and the way they move inside the ring. whether or not and it's a very tricky thing to pull off whether this should be some kind of an expert body a governing body of experts who can look at somebody in their fight and say

You just can't fight anymore. You lose your license. Okay, but you say that but how do you how do you stop or Lasky from fighting? It's good. I love ski because our Lasky was on the way out. I lost he gets starched by Fedor right starch flat line He gets starched by Sergey Karatanov. Karatanov's strike force. He lost a big foot. He gets beat the fuck out of him by Rumble. Rumble smashes him in the first round, breaks his jaw. And you're looking at him, you're like, this guy's got to stop.

Now he comes back to the UFC, wins a couple fights, knocks out Travis Brown, and he's next in line for a fucking world title shot. I would say the answer to that is that's a hard case. You're saying that's an exception? Hard cases don't make good laws. And I hear you. It's an outlier. It's an outlier, and I think you'd have to weigh the overall sort of benefit to Khan to that.

So I do think that most of those those comeback decisions could be avoided where you'd have you'd make most of the decision would be very good if you had a group of people who really knew their shit and they took in all the factors most people would go that person 36 years old whatever he is 37 38 he's been starched whatever many times he's not the same he's not moving the same. Right. He's got to stop. Okay, how's he supposed to make money? More importantly.

But how do you tell him to stop when you tell people it's okay to skydive? When you tell people it's okay to base jump? You could put on a wingsuit and jump off a cliff. But is it also worth it? Like if I'm a professional fucking swimmer, that's like me having this great career and be like, this is fucking crazy, man. I got wet. Yeah, you jump in water. You can get wet. You fight. You you get punched in the face you get a trauma same shit so we know what we're signing up for not the

same shit though and the reason it's not the same shit is that head trauma and the damage these guys are taking they're gonna pay for for the rest of their life and it's life-shortening I don't think you can say the same thing about things like swimming and things why so you don't think we know that that's like and I hate comparing to war and soldiers. I understand you know that. That's like a soldier signing up for the Marines going out on a fucking tour getting shot. And you're like, what the fuck?

This is bullshit, man. I'm just addressing the fact that you don't get to be a fighter and a great fighter like a lot of the guys without being objective is probably not your friend in the ring when you're a young man. That's in all sports, though. Football, everything. You don't think Joe Montana, if it was up to him, he'd still be slinging footballs to the 49ers at 60 years old?

Every athlete's going to keep going until the NFL and the NBA. It's very simple. Nope, there's a young guy we're not paying anymore. That's why it really bums me out that they go after a guy like roger clemens for using growth hormone to throw a ball faster oh it's like fucking so it's like why like he's yeah he's using some stuff but by the way that

stuff's not illegal it's not like he's using meth okay he's using stuff that's legal you can buy it that your body produces anyway your body produces it anyway scientists developed it it makes your body work better and all he's doing is prolonging his career throwing a baseball he's investing in himself no one's getting hurt from roger clemens taking growth hormone and still throwing guess what every guy that he's pitching to is on the same shit yeah so what's the point and he's not hurting these guys no it's not like he's kickboxing yeah and because of this he's allowed you know he's showing up with hyperhuman hormone levels that allow him to absorb punches like Tic Tacs and just beat guys down and run. Like Vanderlei in his prime, that kind of shit. But that also comes back down to the old idea of competition sport on a fair playing field.

That would be the argument that the commission would make in baseball, right? They'd say, well, you know, you have an advantage then over the other 30-year-olds. But he doesn't have an advantage because he's still just a pitcher. And it's not like he's throwing some ball 190 miles an hour when no one's ever seen that before. Some recovery. He's throwing pitches at a normal speed. I mean, he's not doing anything unusual. I mean. You know what I'm saying? I do. I mean, I think not doing anything unusual. You know what I'm saying?

I do. I think baseball is one of the worst arguments. I agree. When it comes to steroids. Because it's a skills game. And the amount of crap that Barry Bonds took, like just being booed. Bro, look at how Alex Rodriguez right now. He just broke the 3,000th

home run. It's insane. He just passed Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, all that shit. ESPN won't cover it. There's a little ticker at the bottom, but there's not a lot. The Yankees, he spoke at all these bonuses. Yankees are saying, nope, we can't market this because you're known as a steroid user. He's like, what the fuck? It's in my contract.

You owe me $6 million if I hit this milestone that's never been done. And the Yankees are saying, nope, we can't do it. Because we can't market you. You voided the contract by being tested positive for steroids. Is that true? 100% true. So did he void his contract? I mean, legally, is it void? I don't know the contract, but they're

not paying him. And he's not putting up a fight either. Wow. Look at Barry Bonds. How many golden gloves did Barry Bonds want? Nine? Seven? A shitload. And that, steroids are not going to help you necessarily field balls to that level and that skill. Well, that's not true. It's going to help you run faster. You're going to get to the ball quicker.

But I'm saying, like you said, to your point, a great deal of baseball is skill. And I would say steroids for baseball allow you to play longer. Well, no, it definitely allows you to hit a ball harder. 100% bat speed. You're bat speed. Faster. Bat weighs less to you. But you also play longer. Well, no, it definitely allows you to hit a ball harder. 100% bat speed. Move your bat faster. You know, bat weighs less to you. But you also play longer. You can also just play into your late 30s where you probably couldn't

because your bat speed slows down. Now, do you think, and this comes with bullying and all this shit, do you think with society becoming a little bit sissified, now it's like head trauma is a bigger deal? Because head trauma has always been there, right? I think it's about we know more about it, though. We know more about it, but at the same time, it's like, oh, we should stop this. Football, they shouldn't play with

helmets. Well, when I signed up for football, I'm like, all right, I'm clashing my helmet against that dude. It's probably not safe. But I do it. You thought it was a belt. Your belt was wrong. Now as we learn more and more about not only what it does, but the long-term effects, it's harder to condone it when you know that the people that are doing it right now

are going to pay a very steep price or could pay a very steep price. It's harder for society, I think, to deal with. A lot of athletes, they're very aware. I think if you ask most athletes, like, hey, man, your brain's going to get fucked up. It's going to take 10 years off your life. You're still going to do it? Most of them are going to say yes. Well, because it's better than doing that engineering job.

Yes, they have no other options. Yeah. I think those stories existed before of the guy who got a concussion and the coach put him back in there and then he got paralyzed moments later. But they never get broadcasted because it wasn't the internet. So those stories were trapped in Toledo, Ohio, and some parents would tell their friends and it would be a tragedy, but it would never make it across the globe. Now those stories

become huge international stories. You also see your childhood heroes talking about how they don't remember it. Tony Dorsett did that interview and talked about how he just forgets where he is what he's doing. Mike Ditka, Hall of Fame coach, Hall of Fame

player was like if I knew the repercussions it was going to have on my players and myself, I would never play football. I would never coach any of it. And they go, would you let your sons or your grandkids play football? He goes, nope. That's crazy. That's Mike motherfucking Mr. Football Ditka. That's so crazy.

Matt Mitrione talked about the fact that his son wants to play football, and he said, well, that's not going to happen until you can, basically you're a sophomore or a junior in high school, until your head starts to develop, or maybe college. Well, then you're not playing. Right. It's stupid. But that's what makes sense.

But that's what Mitrione played, what, for seven years? He was like, I don't want my son playing football right now. Isn't that amazing? Like he's fighting in MMA in the UFC, and he's like, that's not as dangerous. That football thing is what you really should be worried about I disagree Really, I mean I played in both. I think They're both bad right yeah, neither ones. Yeah, no one's good for your health. What's what's worse you think well?

Well, okay, so let's let's just say for example So what this the 2016 would be my eighth year in the UFC right eight years in the NFL I'm set for life. I get a stipend every month. I have a retirement plan. I have a 401K. I'm good, man. I don't have to go fucking figure something else out to do. I can live off that.

I'm going to be all right. I have full benefits. UFC, I take some head trauma, which I'm going to get if I'm in for eight years, and I retire January 2nd after eight years. There's no stipend. There's no 401k. I have no options. I better figure some shit out. At least in the NFL, I'm still going to get head

trauma, but at least I'm going to get compensated for it down the road. And it's not the UFC's fault because UFC, right now, you know, we're getting there, but we're in leather helmets if it's the NFL. The NFL, it's been around a long time. It's a smooth operating machine. There's a players union, so I get that.

But if I have to pick, at least if I'm going to suffer head trauma, at least when I retire, I at least get something back. Does that make sense? Yeah, what do you think from the actual doing of the sport, and I know it probably depends on the position, but say a free safety or someone, does a free safety take more head trauma than somebody who is an active fighter in the ufc i don't think so no i don't think jesus because they have protection

of a helmet on and then if you're talking if you're a heavyweight you're sparring with other 260 plus pound professional athletes and when you're sparring especially now we have we have more knowledge and guys aren't sparring that much, taking as much hits. Back in the day. I mean, you get hit with a jab from a UFC heavyweight, it's going to fuck your brain up, man. And you're going to get hit. It's what you signed up for. Yeah, there's really no way around it. No, it's part of the game.

Talking to Tony Jeffries, I mean, he was calculating how many hits he took to the head. He did an average. Something like 55,000. He said if he got hit six times a round in the head, which is low, if he got hit six times, how many rounds he did in amateur fights and pro fights, it came out to what? 55,000.

55,000 hits to the head. Yeah, and then I kind of did it on my calculator, and he was right. I was like, God damn. Well, think about Georges St-Pierre. We know he got hit 800- plus times inside the octagon. So crazy, yeah. By world-class fighters. Four-ounce gloves, that one.

Yeah, how many times did he get hit in the head in the gym? You know? Dude. How many different rounds did he spar? And he goes hard, man. Can't be good. Yeah, has to. He goes hard.

Yeah. He does, huh? And against the very best in the world. Once they come up, if they come up with a way to regenerate brain cells, if they come up with a way to fix, like if they come up with some sort of stem cell injection when they can regenerate your tissue. Oh, then we're good. Then we're good.

Fuck yeah. Then it's the best sport in the world. Yeah. Then it's like, man, why worry about it? Yeah. You know, maybe they give you some shit. It makes you way smarter than everybody else once you get brain damage. Oh, that'd be dope.

Like that movie. What's that movie? than everybody else. Once you get brain damage. Oh, that'd be dope. Like that movie. What's that movie? They're trying to reverse engineer the brain. That's a brain project in both China and the United States. They say they're not even close. The brain's so complicated. Everything else, they're good. The brain, they can't figure out.

Very difficult. It's a 10-year project. Isn't that nuts? Yeah. They just, I think they're coming really close to reverse engineering the red blood cell of a dog, which means that then they'll be able to do it with a human, which really means they'll be able to replicate it with a tiny machine. Well, that's what Kurzweil was saying.

Kurzweil was saying they're going to come up with artificial blood cells that are so efficient, you'll be able to take one deep breath and go to the bottom of a pool for an hour. Yep. Yep. How about that? How about that? And sprint. You'll be able to sprint on a pool for an hour. Yep. Yep. How about that? How about that? And sprint. You'll be able to sprint on a breath.

You can just run. Dude, sports will never be the same. It won't be as fun. It'll never be the same. It won't be fun, man. A thousand years from now. Mental strength won't be good. No, it's going to be so different.

It'll be what the technology in your body. What can you afford? You know what's cool? Well, not cool is people are going to be like, you know what? I want my kid to play like LeBron James and look like Brad Pitt. Well, but that raises, that raises really. That's not good. That's not good.

It raises really weird questions. Because then it puts everyone on the playing level field. Right. Like you want people to be different, man. Right. Well, it raises what, like then if, say you could do that, say you could engineer like the perfect person, right? Then it would, then it would be, it would raise really weird questions about what a

human being is because so much of questions about what a human being is Because so much of what we define a human being you know And their ability to figure out how to make someone smart or make someone have a good personality Make someone have a funny sense of humor the sense of humor Especially you can't really engineer that with a computer how you put it all together and yeah You mean you have a guy look like Brad Pitt all you want if somebody like you comes along and goofs on him yeah he falls apart thank god emotionally he's not used to it that's huge you're like look at you you're not genetically engineered are you what would you have done without that probably starve you know

look at you you fucking science that means you're gonna walk away with the girl that's what we were talking about that like with an athlete where we where there is, in the human element, there's the immeasurable. There's something called sense of humor, personality. So we were talking about athletes. You can measure the best athlete. A guy can run fastest, jump the highest, all that stuff. Yet somehow they don't win games the way somebody who does all that stuff in an average way does or not as well. So Wayne Gretzky didn't have the fastest slap shot, not even wasn't the fastest skater somehow he could put it all together and the question becomes

how much of a factor does that measure in when you talk about how good an athlete somebody well that's larry bird you know larry bird was never a great athlete but his fucking accuracy and those three pointers his competitive edge competitive edge demeanor and confidence and his ability to get into the other player's head. Yeah. The biggest trash talker. Yeah, I mean, you know, you're looking at a guy that's like a pasty white dude. It didn't look anything like LeBron James.

So awesome. So dope. But that is that weird human X factor that thank God exists. Yeah. Because technology may be moving forward, but it doesn't. Tony, you're a football fan. When you watch it, do you care that there's brain trauma going on? Oh, of course.

Yeah, it's fucking crazy. But you still watch it every Sunday. Yeah, yeah. And fighting, like you just watch. So you realize Jessica Penney got brain damage, correct? Absolutely. Don't give a fuck, right? I got a couple bad concussions back in high school wrestling days.

Got stuck in a head scissors and a guy slammed my head. You know, he pops back and I was out. I woke up with puke all over me on the mat like that helmet that you were wearing that cryo helmet those guys contacted me you like that I like the idea I like what they're doing for you know just cool me is a really cool nonprofit organization that basically tries to get the word out there that when you have head trauma he was was a veteran, I think Daniel, damn, Daniel Ortega, Daniel Ortiz. I'm sorry, Daniel Gonzalez, I think his name is. And he runs it, and he was a...

Mexican name. Bunch of Mexican names. He was an Ortega Gonzalez. Daniel Gonzalez, Velazquez. Shit. Sorry, Daniel, for not getting your name right. Burrito. But Daniel was in the military, and I believe he's a medic.

And one of the things that they found is that when you have head trauma and you cool somebody immediately, you cool their head right away, it can be very, very beneficial to stopping long-term trauma. And this guy, the cryo-helmet guy, Douglas, his brother's a boxer. He was a boxer, and his brother actually has a gym. And so he created this, basically this cryo helmet where you just put it in the freezer and you just put it on your head after contact sports. And real quick, he sent it to you because you're worried about head trauma? No, because he listens to the podcast. He goes, stop boxing.

He goes, what are you doing? He goes, stop boxing and don't box. There's no reason to. And if you insist on it, fucking cool your head. Are you getting your bell rung when you're boxing? No, no. I mean, with Wayne, he'll catch me, but it's not. I'm fine.

But then you go home and you put on the cryo helmet? No, I don't do it. I just got it. I will now. Well, the guy was smart sent to you and Joe Rogan. I'm not a pro. I mean, I'm sure he's a great guy, but he's very smart. I'm not a pro fighter.

No, but I'm doing it because I think Just Cool Me is a non-profit. So you're sparring with Wayne McCullough? Yeah. And Wayne McCullough is just like popping you in the head lightly? I'm not sparring with Wayne McCullough. Wayne McCullough moves around with me. I try to hit him. He spars with other guys, though. I've seen him spar with other guys

and I'm like, what are you doing? But they're not... What does it look like when he spars with other guys? You haven't seen me in a long time. Well, no was gonna help you Brian Brian's footworks better than all his Footworks better than all these guys. I mean he's not like this fucking guy Yeah, oh my god So when you take off your cryo helmet is there a guy with a blow dryer and a holster there to fix your hair? Yes, yes there is but Brian is getting hit in the head When he's sparring yes not not hard it still hits to the head he's still trying to the head i know i like doing it though

i like boxing i don't get it why don't you just do jujitsu that's what i need to start doing why don't you do it i'm going to but why don't you because i'm trying to box i have time i'll do it i play tennis but you were a good grapp. But you were a good grappler. But you were a good grappler. Yeah. I miss the shit out of it. But I remember when we first started training, when I first brought you into Carlson Gracie's, you would go hard, man.

You would go after those guys. You're going to roll this Saturday with Tarek and Jake Shields. I can't wait. How will I do against Jake? Be honest. You're going to get mauled. Come on, dude. Have you seen the way I-

Me, Tarek, and Jake Shields? You're going to do great, Brian. Thank you. When's the last time you rolled? It doesn't matter, bro, because what happens is I square up. What are you going to do, take me down? Hold on a second. Are you guys going to, in San Francisco, is that what's going to happen?

You're going to train up there? What the fuck are you doing up there? I'm doing the punchline, and then he's coming up. I have two meetings with sponsors, one personal and one for the podcast. And then we're going to have fun. Like roll with Jake Shields. I can't wait. Yeah, that'll be fun for about three seconds.

Yeah, I mean, I have no business. I literally have no business. I trained with Jake first week of May because he's getting ready to fight Paul Harries. So all he's working on is leg locks. God, he's a fucking monster. Jake's a beast. He's very good, man. Brian, how much do you weigh?

220. Really? No. 170. Really? Exactly 170. Do you understand like, the ass and size? My weight's all on my feet. He's made out of lead. If you cut down to 140, I'll wrestle you. Alright, cut down to 140? I couldn't suck that kind of weight.

Cut loose 30 pounds? That's hard. I think you could do it. Dude, I have to do it. I couldn't suck that kind of weight. Cut loose 30 pounds. That's hard. I think you could do it. Dude, I have to do it. I think you could do it, man. I'd have to. What are you, scared?

145. Could I suck that on 45? I had to do a cooking show yesterday talking about my diet and how I'm like straight at 205. Is Bates just me bullshitting him the whole time? They're going to hear this. I don't give a fuck. They're like, so like right now, where are you at. They're like, so right now, where are you at? I'm like, right now, now, now? They're like, yeah.

Do you have a scaler? I'm like, I don't. What are you wearing? So I wore this tight black shirt. I looked like fucking Jean-Claude Van Damme, like black shirt. But giant. He's so enormous. He hadn't eaten and we had done a podcast and he's like, I'm starving. I'm starving.

And I could see the frenzy look in his eyes. He's got a food issue. Horrible food issue. We go to Julian and take away one of our favorite places. What's the issue? He orders a sandwich. That's the cooking show me bullshit my way through this diet. Where is this at?

That's my house. Nice. Yeah. And so what is this show? What is this cooking show? Just basically the big ground slim down because i i rachel ray was there no i said watch out rachel ray i wish rachel ray was there yeah hell yeah she loves people you look like a burly you look like a burly cook there you are

burly cook have you had a a cooking show dude do you know the comment post that would go your way called the burly cook with your shirt off you know what though like when i was so hungry and Post that would go your way. Called the Burley Cook. With your shirt off. You know what, though? Launch it your way. When I was so hungry, we went to Jelena's takeaway. He ate so much, and he goes like this. He finally goes, I'm getting another. He looks at me after we ate, and he goes,

and I go, what's up? He goes, I'm getting another piece of pizza. And I go, I am, Brian. I'm going to do it. And I go, all right, dude. Brian goes, great, man. You're not going to jump off the 50-foot cliff. He goes, I'm doing it. And he goes, I'd like another piece, Brian. I'm going to do it. And I go, all right, dude. Brian goes, great, man. You're not going to jump off the 50-foot cliff. He goes, I'm doing it.

And he goes, I'd like another piece, please. No, then I got two cookies. And you were talking to a girl. And I see her look at me. I go, Brian, I'm dead serious. I go, I got your cookies and pizza, man. I'll tell you what you've never seen before. I have a food complex.

You want to see something nuts? You need to see Ari Shafir eat at Fogo de Chao. I eat a lot of food, dude. But I can't fuck with Ari when he has that all-you-can-eat buffet at Fogo de Chao. Really? Because, you know, Fogo, they have the chip,

they flip it over. Yeah. I don't know how he does it. He out-eats all of us. It's because of his Jewishness. He sees the opportunity to fill up on his food. It's like a berry

just hibernates after that. Because it's all-you-can-eat, I don't know how he does it, but he keeps coming. Do you eat healthy, though? Yeah. I mean, you're a lean dude. But I see your post that night where it's like moose fucking meat.

So you're not eating a lot of carbs that night. That doesn't put weight on you. Well, I don't eat much carbs. I limit my pasta to only a couple portions a week, and I limit my bread. Yeah, I don't believe in it. I think pasta's mostly just dough. It's fucking gum. It's like when you eat it, it's just doughy, massive fucking, it's just glue.

Do you just have great genetics? Well, I have really good genetics for sure, but I definitely eat a lot of good food. I eat a lot of vegetables. Like what was your breakfast? I haven't eaten yet. You haven't eaten at all? No, I ate this bar. So do you do that on purpose, like intermittent fasting?

Well, I ate late at night. Late at night I had five eggs and I had some steak and then I went to sleep. I can't eat protein at night. I literally- Protein? I can never sleep. If I did that, if I ate eggs and steak- That'd be fun.

I would wake up two hours later in a hot sweat and I'd have to throw the covers off and I would be awake for another three hours. What? What? Can't do it. Guess what I can sleep on? Carbs. Big bowl of carbs.

No problem. Why is that? It depends on your metabolic type, apparently, from what I've read. And I'll give you a questionnaire. Can you eat carbs at night, and do you sleep well? Right through the night. If you eat protein, if I eat any protein, I'm fucked. See, if I eat carbs, I feel weighed down.

Me too. If I eat a bowl of pasta, I love spaghetti, man. Spaghetti and meatballs, I'm in heaven. I love it. How about penne? After it's over, it's just... Right after it's over, I'm just like, ugh. I just hate glue.

You know what the problem I'm having sticking to a strict diet is, when you have a goal, like when you know you have a motherfucker like Andrei Orlovsky, you're going to fight a crow cop, it's easy to be strict as fuck. Right. Right now. Because you're afraid, basically. Well, no. You have a goal.

You have a goal in mind. Like right now, you know, there's no, like I said, I'm only taking a fight if it's a super fight. I told, you know, I told them that. So, but there's nothing set, right? Right. So right now it's like tonight I'm going out to this dinner. It's like, all right, well, usually I'd go out and I'd eat super strict, but in my head like when I get the menu I'm like for what why would I eat super? Yeah, just enjoy food man. I look then I'm worried about getting fat because I've body dysmorphia

You have the best body true like girls look at your body Hump you with their eyes, but about when we saw Mika Kelly how embarrassed was I? It was a class and I. And I like hit it. Mika Kelly is an actress, and I think she was on The Hills or something. She dated Derek Jeter. We worked out the same place. You hide your pizza from her? Smoke show.

They're looking at him. The three girls are looking at Brennan. I'm going to take that. And Brennan goes like this. Brennan goes, we're eating, and we're just down the way. And he goes, I'll take a box, please. I'm going to take this to go. And I go, huh? And he puts it in a box.

I was like, that's weird. And I'm eating away. As soon as they leave, he goes, I'll be honest with you. I didn't want to think I was a fat ass. And he opens it up and starts woofing it down. You're not even remotely fat. Why would you think that? I don't know.

You know what? I just tell him, Brian, he goes, why are you like that? Because I don't look like Alistair Overeem. And when I was in high school, a said something to me before like a huge competition She said God be nicer if you had a little flatter stomach and since then like my girl in high school Stupid by the way time to get over that huh? Bully sure 32 so time to get over that

Get over that right now. it was only 20 years ago some time some time man let's hear what Vinnie Shorman said the hypnotist that I had in the podcast he was talking about this guy was 60 years old who was standing on the top of a hill and he was looking down he was like well why don't you go down he goes now those guys are down there they used to bully me in high school 60 and the guys used to bully him in high school we're done he was looking down. He was like well. Why don't you go down? He goes none of those guys are down there these to bully me in high school 60 and the guys used to bully him in high school We're done. He was waiting for them to leave before he went down. That's sad whoa He was looking you know what happened to me

I got bullied for a full year and it turned me into a fucking if somebody tried to blow me I'll show up at your fucking house and kill you that's what happens. I get so angry I'm not buying that when I hate when he talks like that. I hate when he talks like that. That's not true. You fucking bully me. You know what your problem is, bro? You know what your problem is? Hold on, let me handle this. Here's your problem. You've talked to too many guys that let you say shit like that. I agree. And then it becomes like vernacular. No, no. This is what I do. Brian, look at me. All those people that I know, all those people that when I first met you, all those people you used to hang around with, those are all toxic and they've ruined the way you're allowed to communicate with people

That's true because they said stupid shit, and then you said stupid somebody fucks with me, bro Look at how my what do you have to say to me? And it was the most annoying thing He goes fuck this guy fucking wish a demon would grab me man. You know what I would do? And I'm like, I get mad. Why are you talking to me like this? It's not that you get mad, it's that you hang around with people for a long time. You hung around with people that allowed you to talk like that. No. Without mocking you. Who aren't tough. Who aren't tough. Bros. Bros. Bros. Bros, listen up. I will fuck some, you bully

me bro, I don't give a shit about your USC bullshit. I will fucking come right at you. I could pin you on the ground right now and put my dick in your mouth. You could try. For no reason. You could try, and guess what? Just because it's the nice Saturday. Guess what?

I would fucking come right to your house. Bang, bang, bang. No, you'd be dead. Joe. Would I? Yep. He needs friends like us, because he gets around saying that with guys who don't know. I can't wait to box day.

He hangs around with a lot of idiots. There's a lot of people that he hangs around with that are full of shit, that they're dumb, they're indulgent. I feel sick. I feel sick. Look at Brendan. I feel sick. You do.

You hang out with a lot of people that are such bullshit artists. No, I don't. And you don't. My good friends? You know people. You know who I'm talking about. You have friends that are bullshit artists, and you don't even realize they're bullshit artists. Look at Brendan. You know who. Look at Brendan. You know do. You know who I'm talking about. You have friends that are bullshit artists, and you don't even realize they're bullshit artists. You know who.

You know who. You know why. You know you do, and you've had them from the moment I met you in 94. But they lie to each other. I met Brian in 94. He was surrounded by idiots. I was like, what's going on here? Who are these fucking people?

Come on, man. I try to drag you away. Slowly but surely, I push those people off cliffs. Slowly but surely, I separate him Off cliffs Slowly but surely I separate him From most of them They were like Hey your friend Doesn't like me

I was like Well Joe's a little hard He's a hard person He can't close to Marrying one of them At a certain point in time I was like What the fuck

Are you talking about Everybody else was like Good luck brother Good luck brother You know it's gonna work out It's gonna work out I'm like What the fuck

Are you talking about Are you out of your mind You out of your mind It's just me Patti were the only one is a town Oh, I remember fuck out of here. You're not married. Oh, did save me dude I'll meet people or I'll meet certain people with celebrities or not and for some reason I'm like God rogue would fucking hate this person That's what I think of things now my job They would Thing is that Joe will actually like kind of let it be known or at least

just be kind of... Right away. Just ignore them really hard and I never do that. Well, you can't ruin my life. I'm not going to let you ruin my life. They're getting your life. It's almost like those people have energy he's afraid is going to stick to them. They do stick to you. They become a part

of your life and then you have to deal with their bullshit. You have to pretend that what they're saying is not retarded. And when you do that, you compromise the way you think and behave and communicate with people. But you nip it in the butt, right? Even on your show, you nip it on the butt. But even before we were going to do a show in here, this guy had this bullshit machine. And you're like, bro, this is fucking terrible. Oh, that armbar thing?

I don't have that bone in my body. I try to help people's feelings. But since meeting you, I'm getting better at it. You can't do that because it's not bad for them. I'm not saying you're a loser. You're a bad person. I'm saying this one plus one doesn't equal six. You're saying it equals six. I'm like, this is

crazy. There are two people I've known in my life who had really bad breath. One was a girl and one was a guy. They had the worst breath. And nobody wanted to tell us. The same the same guy we know no that's another guy that's another guy you have three right but i'm gonna live your whole life and have bad breath nobody says a word i kept saying how do i tell this person and i never could because i felt like i wasn't quite close enough but it was always and so they've been walking around with bad breath their whole life we have a mutual friend and i left left it up to Cal, and I go, Bro, tell him his breath smells like pure shit.

Bro, it would ricochet off the car window, and I'd be like, Who farted in my car? Oh, it's the worst. Who farted in my car? It was his breath. Like an open grave. So I told Brian, I'm like, Bro, please tell him for me. Brian's like, No, I'm not telling him.

What do I have to tell him? I don't know him that well. So we just chilled for a nice three-hour car ride in this pure shit. Yep. Just complete shit. I just saw him the other day, too. The problem is, I don't know, what do you tell, like, oh, you have bad breath, and what do you say to them? Go to a doctor?

What's a doctor going to tell you? You think his wife would tell him. I know. Maybe her nose is broken. Maybe she had a head injury. You know, when you have head injuries, your fucking nose doesn't work that good anymore. Marcus Davis lost a sense of smell for a long fucking time. Yeah, my other friend.

God damn. Yeah. Head trauma. That's one of the things that Rhonda Patrick talked about. We had her on the podcast. She was talking about the mechanism that goes off in your brain to protect you. Like when you start getting really serious head trauma, certain switches start shutting off. Jesus Christ, man.

Circuit breakers. Sense of smell is a big one. Taste, right? I know some guys have taste problems. That's terrible. Losing your taste and smell. When you lose your sense of smell, a lot of times you lose your taste as well. Yeah.

Yeah. They're connected. Yeah, they're connected. Yeah, man. I'm not. Yeah, I mean, you're fine. You're fine right now. It's the, you know, the guys who just continue to get that fucking head trauma over and over

and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. It's trouble. And then the gate nothing that we're talking about. Yeah, dude I'm honestly I'm a good spot man. Like I was telling Brian this the other day like before Companions like dude, I can't before fight companions before the podcast. Sometimes I can't sleep at night I'm so excited to it when when when our shirts get released It's the same to me as it when I fight I'm that excited for them to fucking drop and sell. That's awesome, man. It's awesome, man.

Thank God. As long as you're doing something you really enjoy, that is really the key to life. A purpose. You want to wake up with a purpose. Like these shows that we've been doing lately, you're working on new material and just trying to get it together. It's exciting before while you're doing it and you're killing it. It's exciting afterwards.

You're listening to the recordings, trying to figure out how to tweak the joke and add this to it. As long as you're doing something. You're building something. It's about building something. So I think one of the big problems that we were talking about, like fighters have, is that once the career is over, there's no more progress. Where do you place your energy?

Yeah, what's happening? Where's your excitement? There's only so many gyms you can open. And that's not going to fulfill that fucking constant pulse you're always used to feeling. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what you do, man. If I had an answer, believe me, I'd fucking tell everybody. And that's why a lot of guys want to go into drugs.

They want to go into something to try to... I get it, man. Yeah, recharge that excitement. Yeah. Get that juice. I don't need it. Get your shit together, bitches. We're going to wrap this up nice and tight with a big fat bow.

Fighterinthekid.com. Tony motherfucking Hinchcliffe in the house. Tony, you got some dates coming up besides the ones with me? What do you got? Yeah. I'm going to be in Toronto at Just for Laughs at the end of summer. Whenever Toronto Just for Laughs is. So Google that shit.

That's in the summer, right? Yeah. Isn't it? Tonyhinchcliffe.com. Yeah. Tony Toronto Adjusts for Life says. So Google that shit. That's in the summer, right? Yeah. Isn't it? TonyHinchcliffe.com? Yeah, TonyHinchcliffe.com. And ours is actually TFATK.com. Oh, it's not FighterAndTheKid.com? Do you have that?

We have TheFighterAndTheKidShop.com. Okay. But it's T-F-A-T-K. T-F-A-T-K. T-Fat. TheFighterAndTheKid.com. There it is. It's the first letter

Of each of those things Brian Cowan with a Y On Twitter Brendan Schaub in the motherfucking house AKA Big Brown JoeRogan.net Tours, tour dates I got a bunch of shit coming up

I'm going to be with Tony July 10th We're going to be at the Ca Theater with Tom Segura A lot of shit coming up. I'm going to be with Tony July 10th. We're going to be at the Cod Theater with Tom Segura. A lot of shit coming up. A lot of shit. All right. A lot of podcasts next week. Until then, much love. Big kiss.

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