The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - June 3, 2017

Episode Date: June 3, 2017

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub, Bryan Callen, and Eddie Bravo to watch the fights on June 3, 2017. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, Christ. He's alright. Alright, we're going live now, finally. Here we go. We had a just disaster trying to order from the UFC TV app. And then so we had to go through Direct TV, and then we went to
Starting point is 00:00:17 Direct TV, and then we had to call in, and I couldn't talk to a person. I had to enter in shit, so I had to check, find my fucking account number online. We all panicked a little bit. Disaster! We panicked a little bit. But we're here.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Eddie Bravo's here, ladies and gentlemen. Hello, how you doing? Brian motherfucking Collins here. Yes, sir, everybody. How are you? Good to be here. Good to be here. Brian bought wine.
Starting point is 00:00:39 That could be a good or a bad decision. We're going California first, then we're going to go a little Italy for my boy at Via Veneto, courtesy. Okay. Fabrizio hooked us up with a beautiful wife. Look at this. He's giving shout-outs already. We just started. He gave me some great wine.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Yancy Medeiros won already. We didn't even get a chance to watch the fight because we just got it live. And Brendan motherfucking Chubb. What's up, Doug? What is going on with that shirt? You are in like a 1980s- He sure is. ... movie.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Boy, I'm glad you mentioned that. I look like a young Michael J. Fox. Well, you look like a dude who's in one of those break-in movies. Yeah. You should have a bandana. Dude. You should. You should be a tough guy with a switchblade in an 80s movie.
Starting point is 00:01:20 That's what you should do. Poor Mexican chicks wear jeans of that material. They do. Dude, that's- That's swap meets. It's in right now. I Poor Mexican chicks wear jeans of that material. They do. It's in right now. Is it in? Because that's artificially distressed in the extreme. Did you see? The kids are wearing it. They just showed Shogun.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Have you seen the UFC light heavyweight rankings? Yeah, he's like three. I think he's tied for four. It's really crazy. They're going to have that Ozdemir dude. He's going to fight Jimmy Manawa. Are you talking about pound for pound champ? He's had two fights in the UFC, and he's like number three now. Light heavyweight's the weirdest division with Jon Jones out.
Starting point is 00:01:54 He's killing it. With Jon Jones out, and Gustafson obviously just rose to the top of the heap. How good did he look? God damn. Enjoy that, fellas. Eddie, did you watch that fight? Which one? Gustafson and Teixeira. I missed that whole UFC. Holy shit. I was on my way back. How good did he look? God damn he looked good. Enjoy that fellas. Eddie did you watch that fight? Which one?
Starting point is 00:02:06 Gustafson and Teixeira? I missed that whole UFC. Holy shit. I was on my way back. I was on my way beat down. Dude Gustafson was a ninja. He's gonna be tough to beat man. Dude he was so on point.
Starting point is 00:02:15 It was one of the best performances of his entire career. It was incredible. Those uppercuts? Oh my god. Accuracy. The accuracy was insane. I heard the fight companion but I didn't actually watch it. Ha.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Dude, he was amazing. Gustafson was as good as he's ever. I don't think he's ever looked better. He's giving me a handful to beat for John in D.C. Yeah. He's coming into his own. You know, he's 30 years old. He's been fighting for a long time.
Starting point is 00:02:40 He's had tough fights with John, tough fight with D.C. He got beat up by Rumble, you know, and he took a long time off, came back, and looked better than he's ever looked. Wasn't he for a second there thinking about retiring? Yeah. You think he was. After he lost in his hometown, he was just tough on him. I bet you he's the light heavyweight champ by the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:02:58 He could be. You think he beats Jon Jones? Yep. Wow. Who knows, man. He's the only guy. He's the only guy that matches up with him. If John comes back, we don't even know what John's gonna come back
Starting point is 00:03:07 looking like. That's a big if, isn't it? When a guy takes that much time off, and, you know, he's, who knows? Either he's gonna come back better than ever, like Rory McDonald looked in Bellator. Rory just needed rest, though. He's never looked like, you know, like, Rory just needed rest. He rushed it. John, he needs a little coca, you know, whore.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Oh, Jesus. Hey, bro. Well, he needs a little coca, you know, whore. Oh, Jesus. Hey, bro. Well, he's in button-ups and blazers talking about, God, I don't need that. I don't like that, John. That's the OSP, John. That was bullshit. You want the relaxed John who just doesn't double make care. I want the two-day training camp, John.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I want the John that takes a flying knee for his first opening move against Shogun. Yes. When he's 22. Yes. Bang. Bring he's 22. Yes. Bang. One of those crazy spinning elbows. How about him bragging that he beat DC high? He's going for it.
Starting point is 00:03:55 He's like, I did coke a week before I beat you. Yeah, I don't think anybody is affected by that, right? The best line of all time, I thought. Exactly. His career is not going to be affected by that. No. It's better. Right now we accept that he's
Starting point is 00:04:06 a wild motherfucker. No, he's the bad guy. It's better if he comes clean. Yeah, be that guy. You fucking love that guy. It's always better if you come clean, period. Because you can smell the fakeness from a mile away. What if he turns into a Conor McGregor butt on coke?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Good luck beating that guy. I just think if you're caught up in the demons, and if you're completely honest about it, Americans love you. They forgive the shit out of you. Charlie Sheen. Hey, I fucked up again. Exactly. Charlie Sheen's like the best example of that ever.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I mean, who the fuck ever admitted to doing crack? Yeah. Like on a regular basis. Talking about how he does it. That's how I do it. That's how we roll. And then he goes on and gets a TV deal for $900 million. That's how I do it. That's how we roll. And then he goes on and gets a TV deal
Starting point is 00:04:46 for $900 million. Yeah, Robert Downey Jr. too. Dude, he got the worst TV deal ever. Yeah. Robert Downey Jr. But he went to jail. He got caught.
Starting point is 00:04:55 He was fucking he-shoes, right? What's that? Iron Man was fucking he-shoes, wasn't he? He-shoes. Robert Downey Jr. it seemed when I was growing up
Starting point is 00:05:02 was in the news you always saw him in court for something, right? Robert Downey Jr. was always asking for forgiveness. Yeah, for being awesome. Right? Yeah. Like every couple years. He was always like, Robert Downey Jr. is in court today.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Right. You know what? He still makes humongous movies. He makes Iron Man. He's killing it. He's amazing. Yeah, we forgive drug problems easily. It's when you hide it.
Starting point is 00:05:24 He came back. Movies start with dudes who are drunks, like an ex-cop, and he gave up on life, and he's Yeah, we forgive drug problems easily. It's when you hide it. That's how movies start. Movies start with dudes who are drunks, like an ex-cop, and he gave up on life, and he's just a loser. He doesn't care about anybody. Throws a pizza in a blender. And we root for Esquipar. Not only that, is we root for Esquipar. When you watch Narcos, aren't you kind of pulling for it?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yeah, you really want them to pull it out. People are pulling for them. That's when you to pull it out even though you know people are pulling for them that's when you know somebody did their job as a storyteller that's why Silence of the Lambs was so genius because you liked him
Starting point is 00:05:53 and wanted him to be free because you were like you know what he does eat people but he wouldn't eat me no because he's too rooted for Hannibal Lecter
Starting point is 00:05:59 not only did everybody root for Tony Montana but when anytime I would see that movie another time, I was hoping there would be some kind of alternate ending. I was a kid. Why doesn't he just leave town? Why did you go back to your house?
Starting point is 00:06:18 He's like an anti-hero. Shit. Do you remember when we were watching that, what's his face? It's Larry David show, Curb Your Enthusiasm. Yes. He had that crazy-eyed killer guy, and he played Scarface over his house 24-7. That's a great show. Like, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah, yeah. I remember that. On the ceiling, he had a plasma on the ceiling. He was playing Scarface 24-7 in his crib. He loved it. He just had Scarface on it. That's a funny thing, man. Scarface is a funny movie.
Starting point is 00:06:44 You know they're remaking it. It's probably the first movie ever with an anti-hero. Was that the first one? Well, no, not the first one, I don't think. The first big one? Well, Clint Eastwood movies were kind of like that, right? He wasn't a bad guy. Clint Eastwood was like the high plans drifter.
Starting point is 00:06:58 He was kind of a ne'er-do-well, came back. But he would do good things. He wouldn't do shitty shit. He was never a douchebag, right? No, but The Godfather. Which one was the one where he came back to life, though? The Godfather was do good things. He wouldn't do shitty shit. He was never a douchebag, right? No, no, but the Godfather. Which one was the one where he came back to life, though? The Godfather was a good example. Which was the one where he came back to life?
Starting point is 00:07:11 Was it High Plains Drifter? I think it was High Plains Drifter. They beat him and whipped him to death and he came back to life as a supernatural hitman and he came back and fucked everybody up? Well, I don't know that that was the case, but I know that when High Plains Drifter takes his shirt off and he's got all these bullet marks and the guy goes but you're dead You wait didn't he know he's supposed to be like a ghost maybe back and killed everybody maybe see if that's the case I mean, you know that was High Plains Drift storyline was that he was like he came back from the dead
Starting point is 00:07:38 It was a different person. I look different. I'm pretty sure I love that movie. Yeah I only know Clint Eastwood from his current movies I don't know his old shit you never saw The Outlaw Josie Wales dude no what do you mean old shit
Starting point is 00:07:49 no I'm young that movie stands the test of time no I'm young is that the best Clint Eastwood movie High Plains I mean
Starting point is 00:07:56 Outlaw Josie Wales man it's pretty close when did that come out though it doesn't matter it could have come out way before our time honestly oh really
Starting point is 00:08:03 yeah it was like in 1970 or something like that. But if it came out now, it would still kill me. It's a great movie. I don't know too much about Clint Eastwood. I wasn't really into Westerns. But I know there's a bunch. You hear Joey talking about it and stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I would be interested in seeing a documentary based on his career. Me too. And the chicks. It started with The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. That was the first one. And then how many did he make after that? He made so many and here's the money in Italy more than that cheap what but here's the They were called spaghetti Westerns because they were doing them in Italy because they would they'd film in Italy and pretend
Starting point is 00:08:37 They were in New Mexico and that's what I was wondering why two of the most controversial moments in movie history with Clint Eastwood one Is he rapes a woman. He straight up rapes her in a barn. He just- Clint Eastwood. I can't- Yeah. Rapes a girl in a movie.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And he's a hero. What movie is that? And he's a hero. And then the second movie- Was that High Plains Drifter 2? Nope. Was he at that point? Was he a douchebag in the movie?
Starting point is 00:08:59 Or was that just him as a normal guy? No, he was just a man. And it was clear that he raped a girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? And then she falls in love with him. Sandra Locke. And then she falls in love with him later. What? No, he was just a man. And it was clear that he raped a girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? And then she falls in love with him. And then she falls in love with him later. What?
Starting point is 00:09:08 Okay, how about this? Ready? What is this called? Good luck in that past today. Look at this. They're making him do something to his fingers. Oh, he has some toenails on him. They make him trim his toenails.
Starting point is 00:09:15 They always check your toenails. Hey, man, if you gotta trim your toenails, do it with a fucking toenail clipper and then file that shit down. File it down. Mike Winklejohn doesn't have a fucking eyeball because of that. That's not bullshit. Really? That's true.
Starting point is 00:09:27 That is something very serious that should have been taken care of a long time ago. If I was fighting this guy and I saw that he was doing that to his toenails right before a fight with his fingers, I'd be like, fuck that, man. No, he's using a clipper. He's using a clipper. Well, think how sharp it is, though, to the point to file it down. But he needs to file it down, too. They're so sharp.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Look at that big toe. So he's trimming it and then on top, he's going to do the other toe, too. The ref's going to do it now. Can you imagine if he go-go-plopped on him? The fucking ref is trimming his toenails, man. Are you serious? This is crazy. He's very religious.
Starting point is 00:09:53 But they should be polished. You should sand those fuckers down. Yeah, I agree. We don't have time to sand. They should have little condoms over them. No time to sand them. Those are mini condoms. That's not a bad idea, really.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Hey. Look, fingernails fuck people's eyeballs up. You know, that's a big part of what's going on with these eye pokes. Yep. It's not just a blunt object. It's a blunt object with a fucking hard edge to it. Did you hear Glover? He goes, when I got poked in the eye, I saw three gustosons.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And then he goes, what'd they go, can you see? He goes, no, but I want to keep fighting. They go, all right, cool. They let him fight off. I'm glad they didn't stop the fight. And he goes, it wouldn't matter, though. He had my timing. He was faster. But, you know want to keep fighting. They go, all right, cool. They let him fight off. I'm glad they didn't stop the fight. And he goes, it wouldn't matter, though. He had my timing. He was faster, but he had everything.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Well, if he couldn't see out of one eye, that was... He was getting beat up before that, though, but he did say, he goes, it wouldn't matter. What does it say, Jamie? I played in Drifter, had the rape, and I can't quite tell if this is the one reaction. How did they get away with that? Yeah, that was the... That's back in the day. I think that's one of the reasons why he got away with it,
Starting point is 00:10:45 because he was this guy coming back from the dead. What is the premise? It says that, this is at the beginning, attractive townswoman deliberately bumps into him in the street, knocks a cigar from his mouth. No, no, no, I don't mean the premise of the rape. I mean the premise of the movie. It doesn't really have, it's a long plot here.
Starting point is 00:11:03 High Plains Drifter? Here's the other insanely controversial moment in Clint Eastwood. There's a girl. She's about eight, maybe younger. She saves him from... He's a Union soldier. She saves him from the Confederate soldiers. He saves life. She says, no, he's not here. And he looks at her, and because he saves life, he turns and kisses her on the lips for about
Starting point is 00:11:25 five seconds how about that oh yeah more than that it's it's like you're like what i mean they got away with some shit yeah but by the way no no it was a different movie which movie and in this he wasn't you knew he wasn't like a pedophile he was just so happy that his life had been spared that he you could never get away with that and probably shouldn't in movies but you know the 70s what's really crazy is like how much culture's changed since 1970 yep how much humans have changed it's true i feel like paulo here could rape a girl and get away with in the movies i mean he is a dime piece he's a good looking you've seen this kid fight before no he's a monster yeah he's very very good. How do you pronounce his last name? It's going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:12:06 You're asking the wrong gentleman here. He's built like a Greek statue. I'm a speech impediment, Joe. You know this. Congratulations. What is... Jamie, see if you can find the pronunciation of his name. Well, we'll hear it from Brian Stan.
Starting point is 00:12:18 There's things that you can't do anymore nowadays, but there's things now that you couldn't do back then. Like, shit seems to be slipping into TV every now and then, and maybe a fuck after 10. They're starting to... Did you see the Wayans? They were talking shit. They had to separate them.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Can I ask you guys a question who are in the know? I know that USADA is very strict, but if you're in Brazil, are you... I'm asking a question! How dare you? I literally just have to smell racism. Let's say his name. What do you think his name is?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Uluwale Bambuse. Borachina. Borachina. Bambuse. Borachina, and then his name is Uluwale Bambuse. I think it's Bambuse. I think he's from Nigeria.
Starting point is 00:13:05 That's my guess. You think? Yeah. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. Give me some volume. It'd be hilarious if Bruce fucks us up. Oh, let's hear it.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I can't hear my... Here we go. Let's hear the names. A little louder. Fighting! Out of New York, New York, USA! Let's hear the names. A little louder. Bamboshe. Bamboshe. Aluwale Bamboshe. Okay, now listen to this.
Starting point is 00:13:45 This is going to be a great fight. Borrachina. That means drunk. Does it? Drunk chick. Or little drunk dude. Borrachina. Borrachina. It's like a little drunk dude? Borrachinha? Borrachinha.
Starting point is 00:14:06 It's like a little drunk. I bet you this fight doesn't get out of the first round, gentlemen. For real? I don't think so. The way the homeboy fights. How much volume can we have and still... Really? What happens?
Starting point is 00:14:18 I mean, the sound will get in the feed. Oh, okay. Right. Then we get pulled off YouTube. Then UFC bans us. Goddamn YouTube. YouTube is ruthless. YouTube is a bunch of haters. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Uh-oh. Somebody's explosive. Oh, they're swinging. You said somebody's explosive? Yeah, man. Because he's black, they're both explosive. I didn't say,
Starting point is 00:14:36 I said somebody, bro. Don't ever put words in my mouth. Well, the black guy didn't do anything. Wow, he's explosive. I didn't say that. Yeah, whatever. I wish that was a stereotype for Mexicans.
Starting point is 00:14:46 If anything, I would say. It's so funny. When you're watching two guys fight like this, when you're watching two guys fight like this, they're so tense. You know, these guys are, like, when you have a bunch of bad blood between two guys, like, you can almost, like, see it
Starting point is 00:15:00 in how, like, wound up and pulled back they are. They also don't have a lot of experience though either, Joe. That's only Homeboy's second fight. He's cupped up. They cupped the shit out of his back. Does that work? Brian, what's going on? I personally don't believe it worked. How did it work? What did it do? I had all
Starting point is 00:15:17 this bad blood in there that wasn't moving, circulating. It literally got it out. It was like dark. A healer. That might be some bullshit. I call it placebo. Wait a minute, you mean it got it out? How does literally got it out. It was like dark. A healer. Yeah, it might be some bullshit. I call it placebo. Wait a minute. You mean it got it out? How does it get it out?
Starting point is 00:15:30 They poke holes in your knee and then put the suction on it. It sucks the stagnant blood. Oh, look at this. Some vampire shit. With a high back mount. He's getting a little sloppy there. He's just a little too wild. Yeah, but he's attacking.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Ooh, just barely missed that left hook. Now he's getting loose, guys. He's getting loose. That guy's jacked. Yeah. They are both extremely jacked. He looks like a fellow you would see on the beach. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:52 The machete. The black fellow or the Brazilian? Both of them. They both look like beach boys. Yeah, they both have beach bodies. A couple beach bullies. I was talking about the Brazilian character, though. He looks like some dude coming out of the water with a Speedo on.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah. For Dior or some shit. Making him super uncomfortable about being on the beach with my shirt off. Yeah, I'd go and run my keto ass away. I don't think he's a keto. I just think he's a beast. Oh, nice inside leg kick. Great kick. By Bambouche.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Ooh, Bambouche. Bambouche has those Jon Jones legs. Those things are dangerous. He's very stiff with his upper body. Oh, he just got head kicked. He throws big shots. Bamboozle looks a little tired, guys. Yeah, and we're only two minutes in.
Starting point is 00:16:31 See, that's being all tight and wound up. I mean, these guys got to catch their second wind. And now you see him pacing himself. And he's moving like nothing's smooth. It's all fucking moving. A lot of looking to spin from him a couple times. I like what I'm seeing by Bamboozle. Both guys.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Bamboozle? I like it. I think he's badass. Badass. He throws big ass shots. Bamboozle's gonna lose. Bamboozle. When he throws, it's big.
Starting point is 00:16:57 He just waits for a shot. Yep. He's not fucking around. He throws big shit. Yeah, it's whether or not he can sustain this. Yeah. It'll be fine. This is his style. He's like Dominic Cruz is a style of this Dominic Cruz what there's like
Starting point is 00:17:09 hey keep switching stances oh yeah but I mean he's he's obviously not as fluid as Don you know what that that he looked at the zone throwing heat though they're both throwing heat these guys are two dudes who don't really like each other. Oh, okay Boy to him. He's like, oh, I got you. I got you Keep looking at the clock or just as crazy as I can tell. Oh, he's getting hurt. Oh, wow shit now. Yeah Let's go poor Gina go and get bamboozled he's come That's gonna smart Oh God was worried about the body. He's going to the body now with the punches. Oh, Jesus. I was like, vicious.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Vicious body. Oh, this guy's no joke. Vicious body. His first fight, he got performance of the night. He's like Roberto Duran. Oh, my God. Dude. Roberto Duran.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Those would kind of hurt when you're out of breath. Terrible comparison. What are you talking about? John Jones, Roberto Duran, and Dominic Cruz. Roberto Duran and Dominic Cruz. Come on. No, no, no. I'm talking about the Brazilian. Oh, beautiful elbow.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Come on. He's better than Duran. He's better than Duran. This is a fight. He's better than Duran. No chance. Duran's boxing is some of the best ever.
Starting point is 00:18:26 God, Doug. You know, the body shots. I hear you. I hear you. That's like Julio Cesar Chavez right there. I could have dropped that. By the way, look at the mark on the inside of his knee, though, on Borrachina's knee. Notice how I rolled the R. Borrachina.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I don't think that's the right way to say it, though. Well, when... You're chewing it like you're in France or something. Like you're Spanish. You got a good Brazilian accent. Yeah, I don't think that's... Can you commentate in your Brazilian accent for just a little while? Yeah, it's been a while for me, you know, but I'm going to try now.
Starting point is 00:18:59 That guy's going to go, look, oh, control the posture. Posture? You sound French again. He goes French. No, guys, because I was in France. It's Jamaican now. It's Jamaican now. It's in France.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah, it's Jamaican. It would be like posture, posture. Because I was in Jamaica, then I was in France, but I'm from Brazil. Wow. Posture, control position. Come on, Bamboozle, let him off. But posture, very good posture. Wow, Bamboozle. Wow, the first round. Bamboozle, let him off. Good posture, very good posture. Out of the first round.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Bamboozle made it out. A couple of guys, he's having trouble walking. Look at him wobbling, dude. He's wobbling. He is fucking wobbling. He gave it up to Jesus. Jesus is going to help him beat this dude's ass. Jesus better get some fucking oxygen.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Dude, Borrachina just poured it on, man. Oh, look at these shits. His muscles be fatiguing at this point because of all the blood. You know what? All the blood. That, look at these shivers. His muscles be fatiguing at this point because of all the blood. You know what? All the blood. That dude's in shape. Yeah. Look, you can be built and still have endurance.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I mean, when Tim Kennedy was at his best, he was always built like a tank. Never got tired. And had good endurance. Was he shredded? Was Tim Kennedy shredded? Him and Grockle. You look at those Strikeforce days, both from Shred City. But it's a fine line.
Starting point is 00:20:04 And math. Yeah. It's a fine line, man. It's a fine line. Like, you get too much mass and not enough conditioning, and you work too much on explosion in the fight and not enough on technique, not enough on pacing yourself. He's got giant shoulders. Dude, look at Anthony Joshua. He's shred city.
Starting point is 00:20:19 240 pounds. 240. And came back, you know? Got dropped in the sixth round. Oh, my flat line. Almost. And you know? Got dropped in the sixth round. On my flat line. Almost. And then came back and dropped in the next round. God.
Starting point is 00:20:30 He dropped Klitschko, and then Klitschko dropped him in this round. And then he dropped Klitschko twice in the final round. Yeah. Uppercuts were crazy. Which, by the way, I think was a controversial stoppage. Boy, that guy's built. Holy shit. Boracino.
Starting point is 00:20:43 It's the shoulders. He's stacked. Yeah, that guy's built. Holy shit. Borrachino. It's the shoulders. He's stacked. Yeah, he is, man. Yeah. We'll just toss it up genetics, though. It's definitely genetics. Oh, he's definitely got amazing genetics. No, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It's all genetics. Well, he definitely does. Because you know that golden snitch is sniffing around these two like a fucking bloodhound. Well, he's young and he's got that mesomorphic structure. It doesn't look out of place. No, he doesn't look like... Also, Brazil would be a hard place to hide. Yeah, no, he doesn't look like his young Vitor.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Brazil's really hard. Are you a fan of facetious? I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, did you see that? I'm saying, I'm not accusing anybody. That was a double front chop. Anybody. Well, isn't Vitor on the card tonight?
Starting point is 00:21:16 We're going to find out what the fuck is up. Oh, shit, what is he going to look like? Vitor against Nate Marquardt. Both of them have dabbles in there. That's tonight? Iron Man. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's going to come out looking like... Both of them. That's tonight? Iron Man. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Oh, he's going to come out looking like both of them. They're going to make a deal. They're going to say, listen, I'm going to let my sister be for me. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. You let your cousin be for you. He just kicked and fell.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Boracina's dropping bombs. And now it's going to be bad. Oh, yeah. Real bad. Yeah. Eddie, what was that clip that you posted? Boracina's not really tired. That MMA fight.
Starting point is 00:21:44 That's the end of that. I didn't see the fight, but how did it? Oh, Boracina bad. Yeah. Eddie, what was that clip that you posted? Borrachino's not really tired. That MMA fight. That's the end of that. I didn't see the fight, but how did it... Oh, Borrachino gets the stoppage. Eddie, what was that MMA fight that you posted on your Instagram where someone was going for the heel hook? Alan would be tripping. Oh, shit. What was that MMA fight you posted on your Instagram today where someone was going for
Starting point is 00:21:58 the heel hook? That was earlier today. It was in the prelims. And the other dude was beating the shit out of him while he was going for the heel hook, but then the minute ran out. Who won that fight? Matthew Lopez. The guy on top.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Oh, that's my boy. Yeah, the Brazilian. I forget the Brazilian's name. So the Brazilian was the cat that was going for the heel hook. Yes. Damn, that was a battle. Yeah, he put him right in 50-50. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And he had the heel hook in. He had it, but he held on. And Matthew Lopez used to deal with heel hooks all the time. He's a great wrestler too. Impressive defense though man because he got to death's door. He got to death's door a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. Real good defense but damn hammer fist from hell. Yeah that's the danger in going for leg locks in MMA. They work. They work but
Starting point is 00:22:39 some of the times you're going to get smashed. Jamie's going to play it. Look it up there. Look it up there on the left. Matthew Lopez. Dude that's I mean this is like as close to a goddamn heel hook as you're going to get smashed. Jamie's going to play it. Look it up there. Look it up there on the left. Awful Matthew Lopez. Dude, I mean, this is as close to a goddamn heel hook as you're going to get. This dude's jacking on it and yanking on it.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And homeboy, Matthew Lopez is a bad motherfucker because he was in pain here for sure. And he survived. Look at this. Ding, ding, ding. Oh, he's a tough kid, man. Oh, yeah, man. And he still has it. Right here, they should allow head kicks with the foot.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Oh, fuck yeah. You should be able to stomp the head. Oh, you would have knocked him out. He would have killed it right there. Listen, why can you kick someone in the head standing up and you can't kick someone in the head on the ground? It makes zero sense. It's a viable move.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Look, if you want to say that the guy standing up can't soccer kick the guy in the head or stomp him in the head, okay. We can argue that because of the cage. That's fair. Because the guy can't go anywhere. But you can't argue that if they're in that position. Yeah. If the guy's going for a heel hook and they're both on the ground, you should absolutely
Starting point is 00:23:28 be able to kick just like you can absolutely elbow to the head. You could punch to the head. Yeah. Why can't you kick to the head? It makes zero sense. Zero. Up kick should be legal. You're on your back.
Starting point is 00:23:38 You're on your back. Why? You get a free shot. They might be too hard. Yeah. Is it too hard? Meanwhile, you can hit a guy with a wheel kick. It's too hard. It's too hard. Meanwhile, you can hit a guy with a wheel kick. It's too hard.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's too hard. Meanwhile, you can hit a guy with a wheel kick, but you can't up kick him when you're on your back and he's trying to close in on you. Fuck that. You should be able to go crazy. You should be able to, when the guy's on his knees, you should be able to kick him. Two knees, one knee. You should be able to kick the shit out of him if you're on your back. You're strange.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I was in Singapore and I hung out with Shotree The guy who Owns Evolve And he owns one FC Oh the guy who owns Evolve Owns one FC as well Yeah One championship Wow
Starting point is 00:24:12 Another cheese Yeah One FC I swear I've been to That's a great fight I've been to a thousand UFC events I've never been to an event like this Really
Starting point is 00:24:19 Dude Hey bro You won championship As far as production goes. Fuck. Really? Who's doing English commentary? High level.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Who does English commentary for them? It's the most incredible. It's like this VIP section was just, the way it was all set up was just, let's just spend, there's no budget. It was incredible every fighter every fighter that came out Had its own music video and own show they really Go off on promoting the each individual fighter each guy came out and had his own music video his own song
Starting point is 00:25:00 Cut up who's the big stars over there besides ask her a star over there ask him is a huge star I'm going to cut up. Who's the big stars over there? Is Askeron a star over there? Askeron's a huge star. Huge star. That guy has mitts. Bro, why not? Relax a little, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You have a knife on that? I used my fingernails, Joe. Give me that knife, son. The reason I bring it up, Joe, is I was talking with him, and I asked him. Keep that fucking goat cheese away from me. I said, he was going back and forth on the rules because they allowed soccer kicks initially. Well, you see Brandon Veer's soccer kick? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So then eventually he said, we got to pull him out. There was a couple examples. Really? People's teeth killed him out. But it's his decision. He doesn't have a commission. He can do whatever he wants. Damn, it's just up to him.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Yeah, it's up to him. And he decided to pull the soccer kicks. And all kicks on the ground. And I said, including up kicks? And he goes, well, technically, yes. But he thought about it for a second. Or maybe he allowed him. I'm a little confused
Starting point is 00:25:57 as to what he said. But he agreed at the end of the conversation that up kicks should be legal. I mean, you're on your back and you allow a wheel kick. So there's no commission. You 100% should be able to up kick at any time where the guy says one knee on the ground, two knees on the ground,
Starting point is 00:26:14 no knees on the ground. It's too great. You're on your back. You should be able to get back to your feet. It's a viable technique. And the guy shouldn't be so confident that he can close the distance. The only reason he's so confident that he can close the distance and get a hold of you is because you can't up-kick him when you have one knee down.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Right. It's a bullshit strategy. It's a bullshit strategy based on a bullshit safety. So, Eddie, there's no commission out there? No, he's good. So everyone going sizzler. Yeah, he calls the shots. How crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:40 But, like I said, I've never been to a show like that. Damn, you sold me, bro You know, yes It's one dude shot tree. He's the man It's like he just wants the best show what I think He's he's half Thai half Japanese who is does the commentary for English does rich Franklin do it rich Franklin? Just move there to work for him as a VP. I love me some Rich Franklin.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Rich Franklin, Ben Askren wants to move there. Ben Askren wants to move to Singapore? And work for 1FC. Holy shit. After he's done budding? He's thinking about retiring. Askren's thinking about retiring. If Askren never gets to UFC, that's such a fucking shame.
Starting point is 00:27:23 That guy's an animal, man. I can't see him. He would beat our champ right now. Do you guys think that you should... How dare you? Joe, do you think it should be illegal to be... If you're inside control, to knee the head? 100%.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Really? 100%? When you're on your hands and knees? You should be able to... Don't be in that position. If a guy can get you inside control, you should be fucking scrambling like a wild cat. If you're not scrambling like a wild cat, it means you're compromised. And if you're compromised, it means you either got too tired or you got too hurt, and that
Starting point is 00:27:51 guy should be able to capitalize. A knee to the head when you're down, the only time it's a problem in my eyes is when you can't move your head. That's why pride was superior in that respect, because they had those ropes. So you can go under the ropes and avoid soccer kicks, you could avoid stomps, you could avoid knees. The only argument against soccer kicks and stomps and knees to the head is the fucking cage. Getting your head pressed up against the cage and getting stuck.
Starting point is 00:28:13 In my opinion, that makes it a problem. Because the guy can't get out of the way of a strike, so then the artificial boundary of the cage becomes a weapon. And obviously you can strategize to get the fuck away from it don't let it happen to you if it does happen to you it's very dangerous it makes fights more exciting because there's more opportunities for chaos but you're going to shorten careers i have a different point of view on it in that i don't think that when you don't have knees to the head we're in side position or when your hands are on the ground or for example
Starting point is 00:28:43 soccer kicks i don't think it it makes if you added those things, I think it would do two things. It would not make the sport more exciting, but it would make it more brutal, and it would probably shorten careers. So in my opinion, it's brutal enough and is enough technique to... You're talking like you're on CNN. I know, but to not allow certain things... But up kicks aren't more brutal. Yeah, up kicks are a different story, actually.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And I also think if somebody's trying to rip your knee off and you can kick them from that position, I think that's... Or an ankle lock? Yeah, you could break someone's skull. You should be allowed to do that. You could break their brains if they got their head caught in a bad spot and you actually stomp on it 100%. Can you imagine if Brock Lesnar gets a full leg? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Well, listen, man. That's why you need the open mats, no cage. Exactly. That's what's up. Oh, God. Rogan Fighting Championship. Rogan Fighting Championship. Oh, and I also asked him about, I go, what if a fighter wants to wear spats or a rash guard?
Starting point is 00:29:37 Like a Yogi? Can he wear a rash guard? Whose decision is that? He goes, my decision. I go, so can a, I mean, women wear rash guards all the time, and it's never a problem in an MMA fight. It's never like, what do we do with the women wear rash guards all the time and it's never a problem in an MMA fight. It's never like, what do we do with the women's rash guards? We can't have them fight topless. What are
Starting point is 00:29:50 we going to do? It's just like, you just wear a rash guard. No big deal. There shouldn't be a rule prohibiting fighters, male fighters, from wearing rash guards in my opinion. I mean, it's not a big deal for women. He agreed. He said he would let anybody a big deal for women. you know, and he agreed. He said he would let
Starting point is 00:30:07 anybody wear anything because you want to wear a gi in one FC, you can wear a gi. You can wear a keto pants if you want in one FC.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I think you should be able to wear a gi and I think you should have no gloves. I think gloves, if you can knee someone in the head, elbow someone in the face,
Starting point is 00:30:21 you can kick them in the head with your fucking shin. Dude, my shin is so much less vulnerable than my hands. Should we get rid of weight classes too?
Starting point is 00:30:30 No. But you should take away the padding on the knuckles. If you're going to have padding, we should have padding on the shins. We should have padding on the knuckles. We should have absolute padding on the heel. Because the heel is the most dangerous, in my opinion. Because I could wheel kick something. You could hit something really hard, and it doesn't really hurt your heel.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Right. You punch someone in the head, you have a really good chance if you hit the forehead of breaking your hand. I've never heard of a guy wheel kicking a guy in the head and hurting his foot. I mean, I've hurt my foot to the point where I was limping, but I didn't ever hurt my foot. Didn't break it. I never broke it. It was like, owie. But that was owie off of someone's fucking head.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Right. The idea that you could pat up your that was owie off of someone's fucking head. Right. You know, like the idea that you could pat up your knuckles, you don't pat up your heel. It's crazy. Your heel's a goddamn hammer. I mean, what's that dude's name? There's a dude who just fought in Bellator recently. I'm going to pull this up because I told this kid I would give him props.
Starting point is 00:31:23 But he knocked out somebody with an axe kick. I saw that. What? That might be the only time ever. It was after the main card though, right? Like he was the next fight? He was on either before the main card or after the main card. Because the Bellator, so there'll be the main event, and then it's over at TV,
Starting point is 00:31:38 and then they'll have guys fight after. Yeah. Like one or two guys fight after. Okay, homeboy, his name is Alfier Davis. Yeah. Alfie R. Davis. Alfie R. Davis. And he axe kicked a dude.
Starting point is 00:31:53 He axe kicked a dude in KO. Sweat this. Doom. Oh, wait a minute. Go again. Back it up again. Here we go. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Oh! No way. Come on. No way. I told you someone was going to do that eventually. Because that's happened. I've seen that happen in Taekwondo. People never throw them, though.
Starting point is 00:32:08 You don't see them because people don't throw them. Front foot hook kick. That's what I want to see. I don't think that's Bellator, though. Derek the Black Beast Lewis. No, that wasn't. That one wasn't. That wasn't Bellator.
Starting point is 00:32:16 But that dude just fought Bellator. But Derek Lewis got knocked out by Sean Jordan with a front leg hook kick. Get the fuck out. Correct. Sean Jordan, who's 250 pounds. 260 probably. Built like a brick shith kick. Get the fuck out of here. Sean Jordan, who's 250 pounds. 260 probably. Built like a brick shithouse. Human British bulldog.
Starting point is 00:32:29 But can do back flips. What? Yeah, Sean Jordan hit him with a hook kick. Front leg Bill Wallace. That's awesome. Super foot style hook kick to the chin. Sean Jordan was a freak. He's a freak athlete.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Here it is. Here it is. Watch this. Oh, what? Yeah. That was Derek Bullock's last loss. Actually, it looks like he brought it from the back leg. Yeah, and it looked like it was almost a. Oh! What? Yeah. Come on! Actually, it looks like he brought it from the back leg. Yeah, and it looked like it was almost a sidekick, right?
Starting point is 00:32:49 No. Let's see it again. Boom! That was definitely a hook kick. No, you're right. As I show it in slow motion, you see the hooking. You're right. It could be a shitty sidekick. It might be a shitty sidekick.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Boom! No, that's a straight-up hook kick, son. That's a hook kick. That's a straight-up hook kick. Does he have a karate background? Do you know that? Look at this. Do you know if a straight-up hook kick, son. That's a hook kick. That's a straight-up hook kick. Does he have a karate background? Do you know that? Look at this. Do you know if he has that karate background?
Starting point is 00:33:08 Boom. I mean, that's amazing. And Derek's like, what in the fuck? You don't train for that as a heavyweight. He's a crazy athlete. Football background. LSU football. Yeah, he was supposed to go to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Full backflip at 250 pounds. Full backflip. God. Woo! Flies through the air He built like a Like just a troll Yeah
Starting point is 00:33:27 Straight up troll Like the thing from Fantastic Four I watched a guy They said he was going to UCLA As a fullback Or whatever he was And he was that big
Starting point is 00:33:34 And he was dunking a basketball Just standing there And just jumping up And going And I was like What the fuck No Sean Jordan Was supposed to go to the NFL
Starting point is 00:33:42 But he got caught with some Brazilian supplements Crossing the border. Oh, wow. And the NFL was like, we're good. Oh, no. We're all set. Yeah, pretty sure. Oopsies.
Starting point is 00:33:50 He's a freak, though. You got to send those in the mail, son. Yeah, come on. Name Mark. Is this amateur or get a P.O. box? You get a stuffed animal. Put it inside the stuffed animal. I'm sending teddy bears to a sick cave.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Have your buddies have nothing to lose. Put up their ass. Come on. What are you doing, bro? Listen. If you're 32 years old and you still have student loans, it's time to a sick kid. Have your buddies have nothing to lose, put up their ass. Come on. What are you doing, bro? Listen, if you're 32 years old and you still have student loans, it's time to become a mule. Time to become a mule. I hope Nate wins, man.
Starting point is 00:34:16 If one day in the future you have 100% transparency and you get to see all the crimes that are committed all across the world, how many times per day are dudes coming across the border With drugs up their ass oh my god I got him in my ass right now. I've been offered a few. What's the number though a hundred a day or more? Oh my god anymore Thousand a day yeah a couple dudes the other day got caught going through Kennedy. I think with coke taped all over their body Kennedy, I think, with coke taped all over their body. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:34:43 See if you can pull that up. You can get randomly touched down, man. That's a big risk. Dogs, too. But I think dogs can only smell one thing, and they usually use them for bombs. No, because with drug dogs, though, they can smell
Starting point is 00:35:00 you know, they have cocaine. Right, with drug dogs. I don't know if that's true. Look at these legs. That motherfucker did a good job. Dude, that's very smart, but that's big time. Put that in your ass. You know what he should have done? He should have got it shaped
Starting point is 00:35:15 like one of those Batman suits where all the muscles are like nice and smooth. He's in deep shit. Yeah, but he's in deep shit, man. He's going to jail. He's going to get fucked. Oh, look at that. Vagina. Cocaine and a vagina. Yeah, but he's in deep shit, man. He's going to jail. He's going to get fucked. Oh, look at that. Vagina. Cocaine and vagina.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Look at that thing with a vagina. Wow, that looks like a turkey. That's a butterball. That bitch has a big pussy. Yes. Jesus. Well, I feel sick now. Once you've had a few kids, I guess you could probably get a turkey in there.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I was cool with the ass play, but that makes me feel sick. Six kids? Half a pound! That's impressive. Jesus Christ! And her vagene. Think about, well, wait a Think about how heavy is cocaine? If you pack it tight, isn't it like a rock?
Starting point is 00:35:49 Half a pound might only be like a fist. I don't know. It looks like a big tube right there. We might be giving this gal more credit than she deserves. Look at the size of that fucking thing. That thing is almost... Yeah, but we're sticking in. It's got no perspective.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It's got no perspective. No, it's almost as thick as my cock. Yeah, that could be a pill. Oh, look at Vitor coming out for the last time. Maybe... What if Vitor coming out for the last time maybe what if Vitor like I mean he's only got one more fight left in his contract he thought this was the last fight and then he was gonna leave yeah he fucked up he didn't count right not a good sign and then uh one of the other things he said recently that was crazy is like he wants to make UFC bigger than
Starting point is 00:36:22 Uber and everybody's like heyie uber is crashing right now I don't understand like the amount of punishment that uber is taking online huge 300 million dollar loss off score. Yeah all sorts of controversies attached to uber like what? The CFO so they're fine about a bunch of people But they'll come back. Yeah, but it's just a weird time to say Uber. The actual idea and the service didn't work out, or was it just bad? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I don't know. I looked at it peripherally. I saw, like, oh, Uber's in trouble again. Uber's in the news again. The president has said some shit that they've lost a lot of money, and it helps Lyft. Yeah, that Lyft is the new version, right? That's lost a lot of money and it helps lift yeah that lift is um the new version right that's a lot of people use like oh it's like the 99 cent store for uber it's kind of everybody i know uses uber and they rely it's awesome you ever fucked up you ever fucked
Starting point is 00:37:18 up we got uber pool on accident and people show there's like six people in the car yeah you were trying to save money you're trying trying to get somebody an Uber. No, I just did it on accident because it automatically goes to it. I'm like, where the fuck? I'll just fucking wait. Other people's houses first. Yeah, I'm like, no, no, no. Get out of here, please.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I got an Uber for my friend and he was going to my podcast so I'm watching him from his house and I'm watching the car do all these fucking turns. Look how flexible Vitor is. Jesus Christ. Yo, Vitor's crazy flexible. He's just doing stand-in splits. Oh, yeah. He's a fucking athlete, man how flexible Vitor is. Jesus Christ. Yo, Vitor's crazy flexible. He's just doing stand-in splits.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Oh, yeah. He's a fucking athlete, man. Oh, my God. One of the greats, man. If this guy never had a chemical controversy, you know what I mean? If we had a frozen time machine from 1997 on and he got it all dialed in, he'd be one of the greatest of all time. He's one of the ones that got caught.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yes. That's what I think. For sure. But he's also an interesting case, Vitor is, in that he's had these spectacular victories and then also some really brutal defeats. And his spectacular victories are very rare
Starting point is 00:38:18 because he's a sprinter. He attacks you and sprints at you, which a lot of people don't do. Like, Vitor just dings you a little bit, and then he sprints. Back in the day. Has he ever? It doesn't work these days, really. Guys know it, right?
Starting point is 00:38:32 I don't know. See, in the TRT days, it absolutely worked. But he's also 40, right? So it's like, man, there's something to be said for the strategy. If you hurt a guy in MMA, you have little gloves on, and you just fucking swarm him. But you're going all in. You're pushing all your chips in. You're all in.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Has he ever been down and come back? That's the question. Yes. With when? Anthony Rumble Johnson. He got fucked up by Rumble Johnson in Brazil. Rumble didn't even make 185. Rumble was way over 185.
Starting point is 00:39:03 This was back when Rumble went up from 170 to 185. So crazy. Didn't even make 185. Rumble was way over 185. This was back when Rumble went up from 170 to 185. Didn't even make 185. Put a beating on Vitor and then ran out of gas. He choked him out. Vitor choked him out. Yeah. You know who else choked Rumble out that people forget about? Yeah. DC did. Rich Clemente,
Starting point is 00:39:20 motherfucker. Old school. Old school. How about that? Rich Clemente, who used to fight at 55. That was that young, dumb rum. That's crazy. You know what it was? 100%? He cut too much weight and he couldn't sustain. Yeah, no shit. When we did Warrior, he was walking around at 235.
Starting point is 00:39:37 235. Remember asking him? I said, you're a giant. And I said, you're gonna suck down on 178. I go, how are you gonna do that? He goes, I'll make it. And he did. Such a bad idea, man. Well, I think that's. And he did. Such a bad idea, man. Well, I think that's one of the reasons why he had this bad feeling about MMA in the first place. Yeah. You know when he says he doesn't like fighting MMA?
Starting point is 00:39:57 Jesus Christ, you're one of the top two fucking light heavyweights on the planet. Top two or three. I mean, Rumble beat him. I mean, DC beat him the last time. Oh. Look at these two veterans. Yeah. Look at these two awesome veterans. Nate Marquardt, Vitor Belfort, 455, 454, 453, 452.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Couple of Mount Rushmore fighters here. Couple of veterans. Didn't sink earlier. And for those who don't know, Brendan Schaub extensively trained with Nate Marquardt back in the day, and you said you never saw him lose a round. Never, never. And you know Vitor and nate trained together too for the rumble johnson
Starting point is 00:40:29 camp we all flew out there to help vitor so they you know they know each other a little bit and they're also jesus brothers if you don't know that yeah they're they're also brothers and we're gonna see who jesus likes the most in this fight yo nate is looking quite thick yes he is strong as shit nate is a freak athlete, man. Super freak. He's awesome. He's been fighting since he was 17. It's almost like Nate just missed the time periods. You know? Like if Nate in his
Starting point is 00:40:54 prime... Whoa. Nate is coming strong here, man. He looks very confident. He looks very fast too, man. Oh, look at that. Beautiful trip. Vitor on his back. Vitor on his back is not good. This is not good, except against Jon Jones. Against Jon Jones, Jon was slacking, left his arm out there, and Vitor pulled off the
Starting point is 00:41:12 rare arm bar off his back. He popped Jon's arm. Dude, it looked like he was winning that fight. Those aren't going to do much. Hey, B, don't. Sorry to annoy you, but look at Vitor with the elbow from the bottom was actually very strong. People sleep on Nate's jiu-jitsu, too.
Starting point is 00:41:25 He's a legit black belt. Legit. And he's a fucking strong dude, too. And if he could hold Vitor here and beat him up, and he's doing aggressive shit, too. Like, he's sticking his fucking head in his face. This is the old Nate, man. Yeah. It's such a smart move by Nate, because Vitor, like you said, he's only dangerous in the
Starting point is 00:41:40 first, really the first round after that, he tailors off so bad. So for Nate, this, and the second round, that, he tailors off so bad. So for Nate, this. And the second round, I bet he TKO's him. Well, especially the Vitor of today. That's what I'm saying. His testosterone levels, he says, are super depleted. He's got a real problem. I mean, it's a weird argument, right?
Starting point is 00:41:59 I mean, why are they depleted? You're only 40. I don't stand them up. That's a dominant position. That's terrible. Oh, fuck you. It's Brazil, bro. We want to see people bang.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Yeah, but that's terrible. They're doing that because it's Brazil. That's right. I don't know how many warnings he gave him because we're not listening to the commentary. Well, he's trying to move. Vitor's tying him up. Well, you know what it looks like to me here? It looks like Nate is super confident coming in here.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Well, you know what looks like to me here it looks like Nate is like super confident coming in here this is a like a Nate who knows his opponent and Feels real good that about his chances. He looks confident. He doesn't look tentative at all Vitor just physically does not look that good. He does just waiting for that one like look at. Look at the excess body weight around his waist and his legs look kind of jelly. He's 40 though, guys. Yeah, but how many 55 years away? I'm 50 and I don't have that.
Starting point is 00:42:53 And by the way, his endocrine system is probably a little bit, you know, compromised. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. He also, oh shit. Oh shit. Oh, he just tripped. See, this is what you can't do. Caught that one to the body. Way to go, ref. But I mean, he caught oh shit. Oh, I just tripped. Oh, this way you can't caught that one to the body to go ref But I mean he caught it on his elbows From like sidekick to the leg. I love that kick. It's got some tricks kids. I love that people are doing that now
Starting point is 00:43:16 That's a legit technique. You know the people think that it's damaging to the knee. I think it's dirty What about heel hooks? Look? It's a good technique if you can kick the leg, that's a good way to kick the leg. What are we doing here? You could blow a guy's knee out with a regular tie kick. I can't believe that's even a debate. I can't believe it is. People just think it's dirty. The Jackson camp really ones who started it. They do it brilliantly. Yeah, they really do.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And they also do it with that elliptical kick, which are that, what's not elliptical kick? What am I working on the word? Oblique kick. That's a beautiful kick. That's a beautiful kickolympical kick? What am I working on the word? Oblique kick. That's a beautiful kick. That's a beautiful kick because it's weird. Oh! What?
Starting point is 00:43:50 Can you go to the face with that? That's that Aurora fucking flying knee, son. You calm down to my left over there, whatever your name is. It's Brennan Schaub. Oh, sorry, Brennan Schaub. You fought in the UFC. Pete Doerr does not look good here. I get excited.
Starting point is 00:43:59 My test starts spiking, guys, when I watch fights. Bro? What about when you hear engines? Never. No, no, it goes down. I'm not in the cause. Hey, if you want your testosterone to spike, and no disrespect, bring up Vitor's wife.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Good God, God mighty. The Brazilians know how to make a woman. I thought you were going to talk about my stand-up and coming to my show. No. Okay. I don't know. No, I don't know. Is it in Irvine?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Oh. It's in Irvine, June 8th, 9th and 10th. That was a good jab by Vitor. Glad you brought that up. Yeah, really good jab. Nate gave him a finger like, yep, you got me there. The one finger, not the bad finger. Nate Duncan boxed. Oh, nice leg kick there.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Couple front foot leg kicks, guys. I think he said, no, you didn't get me. Did Zoe say that? Oh! Jesus, Nate! The thing is, where do these guys go after this? You know what I'm saying? Like, the winner of this.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Oh, to heaven. One FC. To rising. Vitor's going? Like the winner of this. To heaven. One FC. To rise. The offer's there. Vito's going to show up wearing a gi. To the after party. Vito's going to dress like a Sambo fighter with shoes on.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Combat Sambo. I love it. They just went like, let's take this, but not this. Let's take the shoes, but not the wrestling singlet. Let's go with the gear, but not the pants. Okay. Not the pants. It's so weird. And headgear.
Starting point is 00:45:11 We go with headgear. Oh, bro, I forgot. Vitor's at TriStar. I was going to say, is that Fahasa Rabi? Yeah, Vitor's at TriStar. Oh, shit. No, Fahasa Rabi, not Fahasa Rabi. What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Fahasa Rabi. That's racist, Brian. Oh, it's Fahasa Rabi. Okay. Oh, damn it's cheese. It is damn good, Brian Callen. I'm sorry if I'm chewing into the microphone. Yeah, I got your wine. I got your cheese.
Starting point is 00:45:31 We're going to Italy next. You ready for Italy? I'm already going. No, no, you're in California, Bubba. You're still in California. I'm going to let Eddie finish off California a little bit. When are you going to Italy? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Working on it, but not for comedy, just for hanging out. I went to the Amalfi Coast last year. I had a great time. It felt real good. Where the fuck is my cub, B? Oh, you never gave me a refill. Oh, sorry, pal. There's something about the way people live in other countries where they're super relaxed.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Let me tell you something, man. I had a really interesting conversation with a cab driver. This cab driver was driving us around. Who takes cabs? I do. We were in a place, and they had a cab. We got a cab. Who takes cabs? I do. We were in a place, and they had a cab, and we got a cab. They have cabs there. Oh, I got you.
Starting point is 00:46:11 In Italy, they have Ubers. Oh, word. But one interesting thing the guy said, he goes, I want my children to grow up in America. And I said, why? And he goes, because, man, there's opportunity. He goes, here, there's not much you can do. He was a smart dude, and he was a cab driver. And so we started having this kind of cool conversation, because he spoke, I believe he spoke four languages, he said.
Starting point is 00:46:32 He was a very smart guy. Where was this being? This was in Amalfi Coast. Oh, okay, yeah. Where is that? Italy. It's in Italy. There's a place called Ravello.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Ravella? Ravella or Vello? I think it's Ravella. But anyway, it's beautiful. Gorgeous. I mean, it's just pretty. The beaches are nice. The ocean's gorgeous. And the people are just awesome people. Just so nice
Starting point is 00:46:52 and friendly and interesting. But they don't have a lot of opportunity as far as, like, careers. It's more of the simple life. According to this guy. I mean, if you live there, don't... Yeah, according to this guy. But the cab driver was very educated. He was a smart fucking dude.
Starting point is 00:47:07 We got super lucky. Oh, shit. We went there, and we went to Rome. And when we went to Rome, we had a really good guy. Oh! Front leg round kick. Dude, this is Nate Marquardt, ladies and gentlemen. Don't fucking sleep.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Oh, and he flipped him with that right hand, too. He flipped him with that right hand. 38 years old, killing it. I hope he takes him down again. Guy looks great. He looks fucking great. This wine is earthy, bro. It's a beautiful wine.
Starting point is 00:47:27 It's super earthy. Is that good? Do you like it? It's a little too earthy for me. Oh, really? Vitor just hit him with an uppercut. Vitor just tagged him with a left uppercut. Why did Nate shake his head?
Starting point is 00:47:36 Oh! Head kick by Vitor. Oh, the uppercuts. Oh, time up, Nate, dog. Yes. No, Nate's coming back. This is a fight, guys. Holy shit, what a fight. Good right hand by Nate, dog. Yes. No, Nate's coming back. This is a fight, guys. Holy shit, what a fight.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Good right hand by Nate, dog. What a fight, man. Is this an argument for no testing? Yes, it is. Fuck yes, it is. I don't care what anybody says. Well, neither one of these guys are... They're testing him.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I'm kidding. They're testing him, yeah. But still, I would like to see guys who need a little help fight for longer. It's called the Masters Division. Nate Marquardt is one of the only guys that's ever been pulled from the car. How dare you, Jamie? Is that real? How dare you? That's horrible.
Starting point is 00:48:10 How dare you? Put that back up. How dare you? Put that back up so we can look. Vitor from 2012. Vitor from 2017. That's a beautiful look. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I've got to get on testosterone right now. I think that's more than test. All right, well, do whatever he's doing. It's post-endocrine crash, too, on the right-hand side. Like a healthy-looking dude who's 40 years old on the right-hand side could be pretty jacked. And apparently the bird flu. He's compromised. He looks terrible there.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Yeah, well, it's compromise. His endocrine system's compromised. But Nate is one of the only guys that's ever been pulled off of a card because he was on legal TRT. And his shit was so high. They were like, hey, hey, hey. No. He was supposed to, hey, hey. No. He was supposed to be fighting Rick Story. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And then Charlie Brenneman went in, and he beat him. Charlie Brenneman beat him. Yeah. To Nate's defense, I know exactly how this went down. The doctor, Nate didn't administer the shots himself. The doctor didn't. He's like, no, you're fine. And Nate was like, you sure?
Starting point is 00:48:59 And he goes, yes, and gave him the shot. Yeah. Yeah, he went with Dr. Feelgood. Nate's looking good. Nate's looking good, man. He looks real good. Did you guys know he had a red beard? Look at that. Switching up. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Vintage Nate, Doug. Yeah, Nate is switching up good, and he's also turning that left leg in good to get ready to check that kick. He's sharp, man. Nate's a better wrestler. I wish he'd do more takedowns. Well, he got that one in the first kick. He's sharp, man. I need to better rest.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I wish he'd do more takedowns. Well, he got that one in the first round. He got stood up. He might be a little bit hesitant now. He might say, oh. Nate's body's looking very good. We're on the poha rule plan here. Poha.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Poha. Poha. What does that mean? What does poha mean? It means fuck. It means balls. It means dick. Hansel Grace used to always say that. He porra mean? It means fuck. It means balls. It means dick. Hansel Grace used to always say that.
Starting point is 00:49:47 He'd always be like, porra. It's like fuck. It's like when you say fuck. You know, you can say fuck or you can say shit. It's the same thing. Some of his boxers are like, do you remember when Nate Dogg fought Woodley in Strikeforce for the belt? The Mortal Kombat straight up combo.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Like a Christmas tree. That Nate Marquardt, that finish was one of the finest. Oh, look at that big cut on Vitor. Oh, he went with the head kick. Oh, and again to the body. Nate's Nate. Nate Dogg. Oh, he did him. He stung him with that right hand. Yeah, he did. Nate is no...
Starting point is 00:50:18 Oh, he's swinging. Shit. Dude, Nate looks fucking fantastic. Yeah, he does. Not since the C.B. Dalloway fight has he looked as good looked as good and that was a one punch knockout. He knocked him the Yeah, but that was way back in the day super old school that was a very five dude I'm calling it if he knocks out Vitor. Let's bring on Anderson spider again. Oh my Let's bring it back you imagine. Yeah, he's good as he looks here, dude If he looks as good as he looks here, I just if he looks as good as he looks here, man, I might have to go with Nate, right?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Oh! But listen, if Vitor pulls through this, how about him versus Anderson, too? How about that? Anderson's not trying to have it. How about that? Vitor's going to sail off to rise and just go Bane on us. Well, he's got one more fight. But he's got one more fight in his country.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Oh, nice. They dinged him. They both dinged each other there. These guys are a couple of ding-dings. Hey, man. I don't know what that means. That's what Barry Bonds called his dick. It means what you want it.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Shit. Is that what you call it? I love it. I call it his ding-ding. Enormous respect. You never heard his voicemails to a side piece? No. He called back, what's up, girl?
Starting point is 00:51:24 Barry Bonds. I know what you need. You need some ding ding. And it was just like, it didn't help him at all. It was just like a horrible ding ding. Let's see, Lucy's my friend. Yeah, exactly. Me too.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Don't fucking go bad on him. Don't go bad on Barry Bonds for being great, even though he took steroids and likes girls. Hand me that nice little thing. He hits fucking baseballs. I want them on steroids. Exactly. What do you want, this? We want to get any victimized baseballs. I want them on steroids. Exactly. What do you want, this? We don't want to get any victimized baseballs.
Starting point is 00:51:49 No up kicks in baseball. No. Vitor's got a big cut. A lot of scar tissue on that, man. I'm sure it's pretty easy to open him up. Look at some highlights. Boom. Clipped him with the right hook.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Nate with the high kick, too. Do you remember the story of Vitor's sister dying, man, when they took her for ransom? But there's that uppercut. Yeah, it was horrible. Horrible, man. They took her for ransom and they killed her. Still killed her. It was on fire.
Starting point is 00:52:13 God damn. Brazil don't fuck around, do they? No. That's the worst thing I can imagine. One of the guys working for the UFC got held at gunpoint this weekend. Really? Yeah. What happened?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Nothing. Gave them their money. Was he just a production guy or what? God damn. Here we go. Brazil's beautiful. It's dangerous as shit. Well, you know, Chicago's dangerous too, man.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Go to the wrong place in America. If you're on the south side, yeah. It's just as dangerous in a lot of places. It's just, you know, you can have crime everywhere. You know where it's not dangerous? Australia. Australia's beautiful. I'm headed there tomorrow not dangerous? Australia. Australia is beautiful. I'm headed there tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:52:47 I love it. I love Australia. I'm nervous as shit about it. Why are you nervous? Sydney? I don't know. Why are you nervous? I never really travel, man.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I don't travel a lot. They might as well be Americans. They're like, you know, I say Canadians are 20% less douchebags than American. Yeah, they're way nicer. Same thing with Australia. Really? They're like Canadians with a cooler accent. Wow. I'm sold. they're way nicer. Same thing with Australia. Really? They're like Canadians with a cooler accent.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Wow, I'm sold. They're the shit. I'd live there. I'd live there. It's not even America. They drive on the left side of the road. Never been there.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I'd live there. How dare you not go there? I know. What have you been offered? You're 50. Go there. I've been offered. I just haven't gone.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I love it. Too busy. Too busy training. I went to Melbourne last year, maybe a year and a half ago. Did you do shows out there, Joe, or no? Fucking loved it, yeah. You did shows? Yeah ago. Did you do shows out there, Joe? I fucking loved it.
Starting point is 00:53:26 You did shows? Yeah, I did a couple shows out there. They'll love you, Brendan. Brendan's going to be there. He's sold out a bunch of theaters. Yeah, they'll love you for sure. They're great people. And by the way, big as the United States, same amount of people as LA. I didn't know it was as big as the United States. Yep, contiguous.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Not with Alaska. It's as big as the continental United States? Wow. And there's nothing iniguous. Not with Alaska. It's as big as the continent of the United States? Yep. Wow. And then there's nothing in the middle, right? It's like all in the skirts. The middle kills you. Everything in the middle eats your ass.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Well, eats your ass. And then in the ocean is Shark City. Yeah, the ocean is Shark City. Shark City. The water around the ocean is Crocodile City. And you get deep inside, you got Snake City and Spider City. God. They have brown snakes.
Starting point is 00:54:02 They kill you instantly. Tiger snakes. They have a bunch of spiders that kill you instantly. You go in the water to cool off crocodiles. And box jellyfish, sir. Yeah, box jellyfish. They fuck you up. Some guy sent me a picture of a saltwater croc passing a great white.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Oh, Jesus Christ. No, I think it was photoshopped. It might not be. How dare you? This is an Australian doctor who sent me that. Sorry, guys. Yeah, doctors sometimes are not savvy with the internet. They have student loans to think about. They doctor photographs. Ah!
Starting point is 00:54:30 Oh, man. I'm on fire today. You should get in the comics. I can't believe he's not a professional. Nate Markhart with a fucking inside kick. Dude, these guys are red. How do you call this fight right now? Nate needs to finish him.
Starting point is 00:54:41 These guys are bruised up. Because Brazil don't fuck around. Brazil, Brazil. Nate is looking great Well Vitor is a legend so he's already up to right you know what man Nate looks super strong in this fight It does his back is looking Swollen I mean like by super strong technique. Oh That's gotta his defense looking good, too
Starting point is 00:55:01 Well, he looks like healthy. That's not tired at all. Yeah, he looks healthy, right? I think also a big thing for Nate was going up to 185 improved his chem. It improved his vitality. Yeah. I just think being at 170, he was so depleted. He's way too small for him. Yeah, he was a big-ass 70. Oh, he's huge. He's so big. He used to walk around
Starting point is 00:55:20 at 205. Nate is so strong, man. Freak strong. Oh, I believe him. Oh, man, he just clipped Vitor. Did he catch him with that left hook? Did it graze him? Grazed him. Looked like it grazed him. This is an interesting fight, man. Because I think both of these guys are kind of at the end of their UFC rope, right?
Starting point is 00:55:40 Arguably. Oh, Vitor tagged him. Both of them are in the back nine. Both look great. But they're both, like if you didn't know that and you saw this, well, Vitor you would tell kind of by his body. You'd be like something's going on. He's a legend, though, so you put up with the body fat?
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yeah, well, it's not just the body fat. There's a looseness to him. Oh, yeah, I kicked him with the left. Because he had a bunch of muscle down there that just went away. Oh, dude, he had so much more meat. It's all gone. He was so meaty. But his technique is still really good.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Oh, my God. He's such a freak. Oh, Jesus Christ. He caught that on the elbow. People forget Vitor's one of the best athletes to ever come in the octagon. Come on, man. Take all the steroid shit out. The guy doesn't throw a wheel kick at all until he fights Luke Rockhold.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Throws one and misses. Oh, there you go. And throws another one and KOs him. Oh, boy. Nate got hurt there. He got tagged. Well, he went looking for that takedown. Oh, look at that. Beautiful jab, man. That's what I call an educated jab, guys. Oh, but that left high kick is strong,
Starting point is 00:56:35 and Nate keeps moving to his right. Yeah, you could block that all day, dude. This shit's gonna fuck your arms up. I'll tell you what's weird is Nate was that tri-star with GSP forever. Oh, shit. He dinged him with that head kick. So I'm wondering if Firas that tri-star with GSP forever. Oh shit He dinged him with that head kick. So I'm wondering if Firas really helped Vitor with his game plan. Oh for sure he knows something Fucking traitor. He knows something about him Fucking traitor. I can't believe what you're saying. I'm just kidding I love you Firas
Starting point is 00:56:54 Look at that right when they show Nate's right side like look how red his fucking arm is He's also pale as fuck. I know but that's why you can see the impact like when you have a super white boy You get to see like where he's been getting scratched up and dinged up. Super white boy? How long was Vitor with Firas? Just this camp. He just went down there. Look at all the redness all over Nate's arm. Vitor's been known to jump around camps. That's kind of his thing.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Well, sort of, but not that much. A lot of guys have jumped around more than him. Flying knee from Nate Marquardt, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, shit. Damn, that's tough in Brazil. They're probably going to get the fucking V-tour. What a great fight, though.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Nate won round one and two. It's a great fight. I think so. Who knows? I'm balls deep in cheese and half a glass of wine, but from my perspective, one and two. Is there more cheese? I'm time traveling from that weed. That weed is strong.
Starting point is 00:57:44 That goddamn L. goddamn LA Speed weed. What did I say it was? Bamboo leaves or something like that? They wrap these blunts with? With bamboo now? Something like that. Panda style? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Something koala bear style. That's a beautiful insect. Koalas don't fuck with bamboo, man. They didn't have that wrap that's already dipped in stuff, was it? No, no. I saw some of this at the store the other day. It's already got shit on it. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Oh, it's like Angel does?
Starting point is 00:58:07 The real interesting thing, if you're gonna go blunt, you really should go Charlie Murphy style, which is where you take a Swisher Sweet, you take the weed and you put it inside, take the tobacco out, and so then you're getting the harshness of the tobacco and you get that weird tobacco buzz from
Starting point is 00:58:23 the outside. That weird nicotine buzz. I like a nicotine buzz every now and then, man. I've smoked a couple of cigarettes before. Yeah. Only a few times, but I've smoked a couple of cigarettes before going on stage before. Really? This was a great fight, man.
Starting point is 00:58:38 What's that? Donald Cerrone. Oh, yeah. I ate some dip. Oh, fuck that. I swallowed some dip. I can't believe you smoked cigarettes. What's wrong with this? Every now and then. I say Nate's got it, but I hate Brazil. Nate should win two to one. It's Brazil, yeah. I ate some dip. Oh, fuck that. I swallowed some dip. I can't believe you smoked cigarettes. What's wrong with this? Every now and then.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I say Nate's got it, but I eat Brazil. Nate should win two to one. It's Brazil, though. 29-28. Brazil? But do they have the same judges? Split decisions. Let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Oh. All three. It's Vitor. The piece of shit Brazil, man. 100%. Oh, fuck you. Oh, come on. Oh, Nate Monaco put his hands on his hips. Yeah, it's Brazil. of shit Brazil, man. 100%. Oh, fuck you. Oh, come on. Oh, Nate Monaco put his hands on his hips.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah, it's Brazil. It's Brazil. Damn. It's Brazil. That's... You got to figure, just by going to Brazil, you lose a round. I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Good fight, though. Those are terrible jerseys, say the female model. Great fight, though. It was a great fight. He definitely won that last round. Yeah, he won two to one. I gave him two to one. So you thought Vitor won two? No, no, no. Hell no. Nate won that last round. Yeah, he won two to one. I gave him two to one. So you thought Vitor won two?
Starting point is 00:59:25 No, no, no. Hell no. Nate won one and two, and then Vitor won the third. That's the only round Vitor did anything. Again, I've ate a shitload of provolone. I've had some wine. And a latte. I watched some good moments in the fight by Vitor,
Starting point is 00:59:38 and I thought I saw a few more good moments by Nate, but I was in no means judging the fight. By no means. Powerful Bryan Stanton with a pink tie. Confident gentleman. It's no big deal, you know, even if he, those first two. He did lose the first round kind of big, right, because he got taken down. Yeah, and outstruck.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Yeah. It was all about that second round. Is Brazil going with the new rules? They do whatever the fuck they want. But do they have the new rules, like as far as judging and everything like that? I don't think so. Because they're such a class act, though. He's such a classy man.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Texas doesn't accept those rules yet. It's like Brazil's the Wild West and New York. That's it. Everyone else, they follow the rules. Well, New York is just juvenile. New York, they're just morons. Let me hear what he's saying here. What it is is they just don't have a lot of experience. New York
Starting point is 01:00:28 State has only had MMA for a year or so. So they're just going through growing pains. I feel like that's what's going on with New York. It's just when I say juvenile I don't mean like they're childish. No they just started They haven't had a while but the mistakes they're making I mean you're talking extreme mistakes Right but who made that mistake was Dan
Starting point is 01:00:43 Merguliana. Dan Merguliana is a super experienced referee., but who made that mistake? It was Dan Mergliata. Dan Mergliata is a super experienced referee. The guy who made the mistake in the Musassi. Mergliata. Was it Mergliata or Herb? I thought it was Herb Dean. Which one was Mergliata? Which one was the Musassi fight? Was that Herb Dean?
Starting point is 01:00:57 No, Herb Dean, I thought. Okay, then the Mergliata fight was, there was another one that was in New York. Was it Weidman? Weidman. Which one was Weidman and Mousasi? I thought it was Herb Dean. I thought Herb Dean was both. Right. That was that one. But there was one
Starting point is 01:01:12 with... There was one with Mergliata recently. Either way, the point being, both Mergliata and Herb Dean are excellent refs. And, you know, shit goes wrong, man. Herb been fucking up lately, though. He's my favorite ref. Been fucking up a little bit. A lot of people have been saying that. I'm not going with that.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Well, I mean, it's just... You're going to fuck up every now and then. You're going to fuck up. You really can as a ref. I fuck up. I fuck up, and it's submission only, and I fuck up every now and then. Yeah. I've done maybe two or three big fuck-ups.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Herb Dean's fucking done a million fucks. You're live, man. How can you not fuck up? That kind of speed. Sometimes I think I'm saying, like, Vitor, but I'm really saying Nate. Like, I'll have it in my head just crossed, because what I'm trying is just, I'm trying to pay attention
Starting point is 01:01:58 and I'm all trying to talk at the same time. No, it's not the weed. No, because I'm doing... Here's a fact. I don't do the UFC high. high ever ever i did like too high ever i didn't like it like when they back in the way back in the day like 2002 or something like that but um i don't do them high i'm because i don't want to i don't want to ever have the urge to talk about some shit non-fight related because that's what this is like this is the whole this fight this fight companion podcast shows the whole reason why I should never do weed.
Starting point is 01:02:29 What is that? What are you watching? That's Mergulata there. Yeah, that's the Weidman-Mousasi fight. Okay, so I was right. So Weidman versus Mousasi was Dan Mergulata. The other one that was similar, there was another one that was similar that was Herb Dean that was a recent
Starting point is 01:02:45 knee foul as well. What was the fight? People online right now are going crazy. Oh no, it's Eddie Alvarez and Poirier. Yes, thank you very much. God, my fucking brain CT. Fuck you. Beautiful. Yes, thank you. Beautiful. Thank you. That's a perfect example
Starting point is 01:03:01 of two guys that I respect super well. If you had to give me a list of top five best referees on the planet Earth. Dan Mergliata and Herb Dean are both on that list. And they both made errors. John McCarthy's numero uno, though. He's number one. He's the gold standard. And by the way, John McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:03:16 You ever seen him fuck up, though? Yes. Not like this. Oh, sure he did. But Murillo Bustamante versus Matt Lindley. He tapped him. Murillo tapped him. And then they restarted the fight and did it again.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Look, he's the gold standard because of his experience. And that was a mistake. It was just experience. He's the best. Currently, though, he hasn't fucked up. I feel like he's the best. I feel like Big John's the best. Number one by far.
Starting point is 01:03:40 You know, here's another one that doesn't get enough credit because he went to the pokey. Josh Rosenthal. I agree. Josh Rosenthal. He's the day I read Josh Oh, that's right outstanding. He's out by now. Yeah, he's out, but he never got it for weed. Yes snitched on Also a brown belt in jujitsu, I think he might be black by now, yeah, but uh, what's he doing? He's out now. He's refereeing again.
Starting point is 01:04:07 He did some keying the cages and shit. But here's the deal. You can't just jump back and re-invite. As a referee, excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent referee. I agree.
Starting point is 01:04:12 He's one of my favorites. Yeah. And also, like, super, like, out of the picture. Like, you don't even know he's there. So is Homeboy with the Yosemite Sam mustache. Yeah, Mike Beltran. Mike Beltran. Outstanding on the world.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Don't sleep on Beltran. Beltran's in my top ten in the world, too. Not only that, he's one of the smartest. I've dealt with a lot of people in the industry over the years. He's one of the smartest dudes that I've ever met. And Mike is a fucking great human being. Why the hell is he so nice? Beltran?
Starting point is 01:04:39 He's the nicest guy ever. He's got to be nice if you have a mustache like that. By the way, a lot of people don't know. You know he was a cock. And you're a mongrel. He was like an undercover, I think an undercover like special detective or something.
Starting point is 01:04:50 I think you might want to look at your phone before you talk about it. No, no, no. Mike Beltran, Mike Beltran was a, was an undercover like, oh, I probably shouldn't say that.
Starting point is 01:04:59 If he's not sure, he will double down. No, no, no. No, actually, maybe I shouldn't. No, no, no. I shouldn't be talking about it. Well, it's too late, you fuck.
Starting point is 01:05:06 You just ratted him out. Now he's going to die. If you think you shouldn't have been talking about it, what you should do is not keep. I didn't know that, but I just got to look. I got to look at fucking Eddie. You shouldn't be talking about it. No, he's writing a book, I think, about his experience. Eddie's going to be super skeptical of Hippolyte's because he doesn't want to.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Eddie, I think he's writing a book. I think he's going to write a book about his experience. Is someone going to the Hall of Fame? Is Sakuraba going to the Hall of Fame? Okay, if he's writing a book, then okay. He was not just a ref, guys. Into the UFC Hall of Fame? Hey, this is Sakuraba going to the Hall of Fame? Okay, if he's writing a book, then. Okay. He was not just a ref, guys. Into the UFC Hall of Fame? Hey, this is Sakuraba going to the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Well, fuck you, commentator. I come in straight from yoga to do these fucking UFC things. You're sweating? I look so fucked up. I look greasy. I have red marks all over my face and head. Hot yoga. I'll sweat for the next two days.
Starting point is 01:05:40 But I just looked at myself. I'm like, they can only use a couple seconds of video of me. I look like a wino. Look at Don Fry. I love Sakuraba. Oh, man. Sakuraba. Sakuraba in the UFC Hall of Fame?
Starting point is 01:05:49 The greatest. That's what they're doing? I think that's what this is. MMA Hall of Fame. Does that make sense? He'd wear shirts that said water on them. He fought in the UFC. And also because the UFC owns Pride.
Starting point is 01:06:00 It's a legit... Oh, so we let Pride guys in now? 100%. They should let Fedor in. Fedor, Wanderlei, Kroka, Barnett. Well, Wanderlei should be in, but Wanderlei's got that issue. He landed a turning sidekick on Vitor that put him down on the ground. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Remember this with Hoyler? Where Hoyler didn't tap, and they stopped the fight anyway. And he's like, no, no, no, I didn't tap. Sakuraba broke Henzo Gracie's arm. Henzo has a picture of that. He broke Henzo's arm, but with Hoyler, Hoyler just didn't tap. And Hoyler was like, I'm fine, man. Like, yeah, I'm getting my arm chewed up.
Starting point is 01:06:36 But like, look, for Hoyler, that proved to be the case in your fight, Eddie. Because when you had that grappling match, you fucked his leg up. I remember watching that from the sidelines and I was like, this shit is so over. He's got to tap. He just let his knee get mangled. Or is he that flexible? Dude, there's no way he can be that flexible.
Starting point is 01:06:56 He's just tough as shit. He's just tough as shit. He dealt with it. He dealt with getting his knee torn apart. Henson watched his own Watch his own thing Henson refused to tap Watch this He just watches his own fucking arm break
Starting point is 01:07:13 He will not tap I'm eating this cheese like I'm on Naked and Afraid I love him Naked and Afraid doesn't have a cheese Shotry wants me to do You know how Tonin did a super match Shotry wants me to do a... You know that Tonin did a super match with Yoki? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:25 You see that? Yeah. Shotree wants me to have one against Sakuraba. Did you see? How'd he do it? Are you going to do it? But how's your back? Dude, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:07:33 My back is not 100% yet. How's your back for $100,000? Are they offering you serious cheese? We haven't even... How's your back for $100,000 on a wheel of cheese? We haven't even gotten into that. First of all, I want you to shut the fuck up. I'm negotiating for him. We're not starting at $100,000.
Starting point is 01:07:48 At least $100,000 on some cheese, bro. And all the shit you can do. A wheel of cheese. We're talking about shekels. We're not even talking about dollars. A couple things. Shekels. Still haven't recovered from my back surgery. One. Two. I'm trying to find out if
Starting point is 01:08:04 I might need surgery on my shoulder. I'm not sure. I've been doing that hanging therapy. I don't know, one. Two, I'm trying to find out if I might need surgery on my shoulder. I'm not sure. I've been doing that hanging therapy. I don't know, man. Did you have an MRI? Not yet. But based on those videos that I'm watching about the hanging, if you have any kind of tears, if you hang, eventually it'll fix it up.
Starting point is 01:08:19 That's what I'm hearing. Is that wrong? Impingements. What it is is one of the things that happens with people with shoulder injuries is you get a lot of wrong? Impingements. What it is is one of the things that happens with people with shoulder injuries is you get a lot of pain from impingements. It means your mobility is impaired because you get tears and damage
Starting point is 01:08:31 and then your shoulder sort of like gets scar tissue. It never increases its mobility. It never regains its mobility. And one of the best ways to regain your mobility, get on a chin-up bar and fucking hang. Just hang. And I hang every day. Every day.
Starting point is 01:08:47 It's one of the main things I do. There's two main things I do. How long do you do it for? Two minutes. I'll start out with 30 seconds, just loosen up, get my hands loosened up, and then I let it go. And then sometimes I'll go into a minute and a half, and sometimes I go into two minutes. But I take my iPhone, I put it on, I hit the stopwatch, and then I hang. And you know one of the reasons why I did it?
Starting point is 01:09:06 First of all, because it's really good for your shoulders, but two, because we did Fear Factor, and we had men and women hanging. And the women all won. The men couldn't hang. Because they were lighter? Yes, because the men are too heavy, and they couldn't hold their weight up. Because if you're a man, even if you have stronger hands and stronger muscles muscles the amount more that you weigh like against 130 pound woman you you you know most guys are weak in that regard and most primates that's one of the things about the shoulder like our shoulders came from primates so the premise behind this hanging is that some of the the lack of mobility and impingements
Starting point is 01:09:41 and problems that we have with our shoulder joint is simply from a lack of your shoulder articulating correctly and stretching out like in and doing so so doing range of motion things like i do a lot of um kettlebell uh shield casts with um not a kettlebell but a club i do these shield casts which are really big so these big movements you got to wield a sword and another thing i, I saw Wonder Woman, bro. Strong. Another thing I do that I really recommend is bottoms up kettlebells, where you put the kettlebell upside down. You're dropping serious knowledge right now. You're working
Starting point is 01:10:13 on some serious stability. This is only 40 pounds, but it's very difficult to do like that. Could you do that, Brian? I don't know. That's pretty impressive. Let me see Brian try that. Well, I could do it now at 70. I want to see Brian try it. I started out. Brian, get on there. Okay. Can I bring you to Italy for a second and pour you a little me see Brian try that. Well I could do it now at 70. I wanna see Brian try it. I started out. Brian, get on there.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Try it, see me? Okay. Can I bring you to Italy for a second and pour you a little wine, then I'll show you how I do that. And that shoulder was fucked before? Yes. It was. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:35 That shoulder, I had stem cell shots shot into it. And now you're on favor already. This shoulder's jacked, son. This shoulder, I'm pulling back. I shot maybe 80 arrows today and with 86 can we get Brian put this up he'll come out before well no he did it he did it ladies and gentlemen but it's hard to balance yes well that's really good it's really good for shoulder stability they okay well let's start we should start
Starting point is 01:10:58 off light if anybody's doing it and I recommend no more than five repetitions I believe in that for weightlifting I believe in recommend no more than five repetitions. I believe in that for weightlifting. I believe in no more than five repetitions. And I think your cardio and your endurance should be done doing other things. Either skill work, like martial arts, whether it's jiu-jitsu or kickboxing, or strength and conditioning work, like running stairs and shit like that. Fucking 12 reps. Wait a minute. You mean five reps?
Starting point is 01:11:21 Listen, son. If I was your size, I'd make you look like a little girl. I don't think so, son. If you want a lift off, bro. If I was your size, I'd make you look like a little girl. I don't think so, son. Hey. You'll have a liftoff, bro. Nobody's stronger than Brett and Shob. You're 250 pounds. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Ready, Shob? If you were my size, I'd make you look gross if you took your shirt off. No, no, no. I don't think so. Sir. Sir. Shob reps with 600 pounds. Excuse me.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Any broad-minded questions? Nope. I'm not done. I'm sure he does. He's my hype man. I'm not done, sir. He's my hype man. He reps with 600 pounds.
Starting point is 01:11:42 He's my deadlift. You know what he does with 600 pounds that impresses me? Those fuck movements. Oh, God. Yes. The powerful. That's the best move for a dude on Instagram. You got 600 pounds on a barbell.
Starting point is 01:11:55 That's right. And you're sitting there doing this shit. Yes. So even big girls like this motherfucker will let me get on top. What? Nah, they're strong and then they're shock strong. You've been, he's, he's, they're stronger than their shots strong. You've been lifting since you were, what, fourth grade? Fifth grade.
Starting point is 01:12:09 He's got some density. Damn, I had a shoulder question. Oh, what was it? Sorry. Oh, fuck. Just take that goddamn fight. Okay, sure. I like this though.
Starting point is 01:12:17 No, but, yeah, well, the thing about the bottoms up kettlebells is they say you should be able to do 90% of what you can do normally. Most people can't. Like 99% can't. But they say if you have a real stable joint, what's going to hold you back, it's not strength, it's the stabilizing muscles. The stabilizing muscles are the ones that oftentimes cause issues with your range of motion and with using it in terms of functional strength,
Starting point is 01:12:46 like using it for martial arts or using it for anything where you would be using, I guess I would even think sports, like throwing things. I mean, I would think that shoulder stability is super important. I remember what I was going to ask you. When you say no more than five reps, do you mean use the amount of weight where you fail at five reps? No, no, no. Or just regular? I've been following this Pavel Satsulin regimen.
Starting point is 01:13:12 And he created, he's like the godfather of kettlebells in the United States. He's the guy that came over from Russia. He's got a ton of books out and videos. And his belief is that strength is a skill. And that you should never do a skill when you're tired. And so the idea, and if I'm paraphrasing and fucking this up, please, I apologize. But the principle behind it, I know of, and the principle is that like, say if you can lift something and you get to like seven, eight reps and you get to the eighth rep
Starting point is 01:13:39 and you're like, keep going, keep going. He's like, you should never do that. Because you get the strength from doing the amount of repetitions. Like, say, if you do five reps. If you could do ten, do five, but then wait a long time. Wait like ten minutes. That sounds too good to be true. Wait another ten minutes. Then do another five. A lot of people would beg to differ, right, Joe?
Starting point is 01:14:01 You're right. A ton of people, including myself. A lot of people would. But I guarantee you, if you had a right. A ton of people, including myself. A lot of people would. But I guarantee you, if you had a cobble on, you should listen to Pabell on Tim Ferriss' podcast. It's fucking amazing. So you do a little bit every day. It's kind of like you do a- Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:13 You don't think you should mix it up? You can. You can do that, too. But I'm telling you, one of the good things about this is you have people that get injured less because your muscles are never working fully fatigued. They're never working to the point of failure. But you're still lifting heavy weight. But you're lifting, say, if you could lift something
Starting point is 01:14:29 and you could do 10 repetitions. Don't do 10. Do 5. Do 5, put it down, take a big, long break. That sounds like Homer Simpson workout. But it's not endurance work. You're doing the same number of reps. The problem is it takes longer.
Starting point is 01:14:44 You would need to be at the gym for an hour and a half versus 40 minutes. You're benching too long. That means I'm on the internet longer. There's some benefits to it. I think there's benefits to it. I don't think doing that all the time knows the answer. Maybe. I would love to have you sit down with him.
Starting point is 01:15:00 You should have him on your show, man. The guy's in California. Really? He's a wizard, and he speaks perfect English. He's a wizard, dude. Might change your shit. The three of us should do it, guy's in california he's a wizard and he speaks perfect english he's a wizard you might change your three of us should do it because you're a fan he's a fan yes we should do it i'll do it i'll do with you guys let's do it i want to listen we could even have him in here um with one of the things that that guy brought to um to the united states is not just the kettlebell but also like some serious fucking bodyweight exercises and then like some movements that now are become have become like really standard like
Starting point is 01:15:30 Brian counts pouring me from if we go into Italy we know we're going to list 2008 I want you to take your time like that I need a fruit I need a fruit I'm a student he's gonna like my Italy hit this is via Veneta sure I do but what I was gonna say is that Turkish get up which is a big one of his. Yes. It's huge. Yes. Turkish getup is so big.
Starting point is 01:15:49 There's Pavel. The dude's a stud. By the way, I always wear sweatpants. Hey, bring Shab up doing a Turkish getup with 145, please. Just bring him up. Isn't that ridiculous? But it was with a bar, which is even more. It's not like homeboy here.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And then he did 200 pounds. Didn't you do 225? Yeah. But it's not like homeboy here. You did a 225-pound Turkish guy with one arm? The technique's awful. Yes. The technique is awful.
Starting point is 01:16:08 It's not that awful, dude. You're begging for a blown disc, but that's still super impressive. 225 he did. 225 with one arm? That's how strong he is. They're stronger than the shop. I told you. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:16:19 I'm going to fruit you up. You want to go California? You want to stay in California? Yeah. You don't like traveling. Look at this. How much weight is this? That right there 145 that's 155 155 look at him he's a fucking beast and he did it with 225 that is redonkulous yeah that is redonkulous the technique shit though
Starting point is 01:16:38 you bet it doesn't matter man like the point is that you have that kind of core power that you can get up from your feet and how applicable is that to grappling that kind of core power that you can get up from your feet. And how applicable is that to grappling? So one of the most applicable, like in terms of like functional strength, Turkish get up is one of the most applicable. Because if you can fucking lie on your back and press something and then sit up with that fucker overhead. Well, that was my move. If you remember like with Roy, as soon as the arm would pass him, so I can try just. Oh, so strong. If you have a strong Turkish get-up.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yeah, strong Turkish get-up, man. It's like one of the most, for jiu-jitsu especially, one of the most applicable movements. Claudia Gedalia versus Karolina Kivakovich. You know, she's got Jacksons now. It's a good fucking fight. Claudia changed camps to Jacksons. She's got some traps on her.
Starting point is 01:17:22 And she's got that dude, not Greg Jackson, who's the old guy that's her main coach? Oh, fuck. Oh, my God. The forgotten man in New Mexico. Oh, my God. I can't remember. Jamie will find it.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Claudia Gedalia. He was part of Jackson Wink. He left. Yes. And he came back. He's really close with Keith Jardine and Rashad. Oh, my God. And he's on the wall.
Starting point is 01:17:44 I can't believe I'm forgetting his name. He's like a New Mexico MMA legend. He's a cop. No, not Steven Seagal, you son of a bitch. God damn it, dude. He's a cop, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Steve Luttrell.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Luttrell. No. Luttrell. Yeah, but not Steve. Something like this. Not Steve. It's something Luttrell, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Tim? No. God. No, Tom. Thank God I remembered that. Luttrell? Thank God. It's Luttrell something.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Luttrell. She's adorable, by the way. Look at her. She's just leaning on the cage. She's her. She's just leaning on the cage. She's adorable. What guy leans on the cage like that? Papa, you want to go to Italy with me? Let's go.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Look how smiling and happy she is. You're coming to Italy. What's that? Chris Luttrell. Oh, very strong. Brennan's shot proving CTE can be overcome. Thanks to Alpha Brain. Thanks to Alpha Brain and some coffee and some wine.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Get on it, guys. 10% off. Some cheese. Did you see that article, Shob, about that Jermichael Finley had about CCT? No. It's really good. He wrote it on the Players Tribune. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:18:30 He did a bunch of mental work with it. I'll link it on here. Yeah, please do. Jamie, Jamie, you want to come to Italy via Veneto with me? Yeah, let me finish this California. Oh, shit. Stay in California. Claudia is by far the best 150-pound girl in the world, not named Joanna.
Starting point is 01:18:45 She's so fucking good. She's pretty body up. She's very trapped up. She's a cutie. She looks like a little Brazilian pit bull to me. Like one of those cute ones, though. That six-pack, son. That's it.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Come on. She's gangster. She wants to do EVI, too. Depending on how this fight ends, if she comes out not injured. Three times just a world champion. Yeah, she's down. She's an athlete. She's gangster.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Oh, Mario with the heart still. Why does he do that heart thing? Because he really loves emojis, but he can't bring one into the octagon with him. Look at Claudia Cadella, relaxed as fuck. That's Karolina Kivalkovic, she's son of a bitch. Whatever her name is, that's what I meant. She's my girlfriend. That's Claudia Cadella.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I know. I know that. I just love Poland. I love her. I think she's a beast. She's gorgeous. She's a beast. She's super beast.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Sexy is what she is. And let's see if she gets the rub. She went five hard rounds with Ioana. Let's see how she comes back. Oh, clean right hand she lands. The Poles have been through the worst. Their history. They're not like, fuck, Octagon?
Starting point is 01:19:40 I went through World War I and II, motherfucker. Yeah, she did it, but I hear you. They don't fuck around. They're eating munitions with their breakfast. They suffer terribly in both wars. Dude, I saw Wonder Woman. Fighting's nothing. You saw Wonder Woman. Our girl Patty. I know what it's like. Our girl Patty Jenkins, by the way,
Starting point is 01:19:54 number one, I think it's going to be the biggest gross movie for a woman. I'm proud of her. I love her. It's a good fucking movie. I heard it's really good. I heard it's good. I have no desire to see it, but yeah. If you like superhero movies, and I love superhero movies, it's a good fucking superhero movie. That's what everyone says. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Look, when you make a superhero movie, you're confined. Exactly. You have to make a movie about a superhero, and the good guy has to win, and you know that going in. She dealt with all that, and she did it on her own terms. It's not about man or woman. It's about a hero. It's about Patty Jenkins.
Starting point is 01:20:22 It's about the dude. I don't want to spoil it. I almost spoiled it. Don't spoil it. Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman. It's good the dude. I don't want a spoiler alert. I almost spoiled it. Don't spoil it. Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman. It's good. Our girl, Patty Jenkins.
Starting point is 01:20:28 I enjoyed the fuck out of it. Is it rated R? You know what I hear is good? It's on iTunes now. It's that movie Life. That Ryan Reynolds movie. People keep telling me that you gotta see that movie. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:20:37 It's supposed to be dope. Chris Pine is hilarious in Wonder Woman though, right? I love that guy. You know what I did today? I did Bad Father of the Year Award. I let my nine-year-old watch the original Alien. She's scared of shit? No.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Nope. She thinks it's cheesy? She's so gangster. I think it's fine. She's so gangster. She's like, it's not real, daddy. If it was a real thing, I'd be scared of it, but I'm not scared. Legit point, kid.
Starting point is 01:20:58 I love it. Kids, man, they have iPads. They get online when you're not looking. They can see all kinds of shit. They know things. Avatar fucks things up. Everyone looks like shit next to that they know things my dirt mother daughter used the word the name asshole today And I had to scold her oh you should let that guy's an asshole. I was like hey
Starting point is 01:21:12 She said you're right, but don't tell anybody right Right but um the thing about the alien movie is that there's no CGI It's all like a moment. It's no it's a dude in a suit So it looks real as fuck that movie was done so well Ridley Scott was a wizard Yes, he is they did everything in the dark everything was like real sneaky You only saw the alien for like quick bursts of it It's just like American werewolf in London with John Landis you see it like oh Control
Starting point is 01:21:41 Did you see the new alien? I did not see it yet. Bro, you gotta see it. I know I do. That alien is so gangster. I'm having a hard time getting people to go. No one in my household is capable. My wife said I could
Starting point is 01:21:50 let her watch the original alien on TV, but I can't take her to the movies to see the new alien. So yeah, wait, there comes out Demand.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Oh shit, the wife makes the rules. She makes the rules. The fuck? Yeah. I was trying to keep for my son. We were trying to keep. He farts all the time, but we were trying to keep it toot.
Starting point is 01:22:08 We didn't want him, you know, we thought- He keeps farting? The word toot? My wife thought fart was a bad, so we were trying to keep it toot, don't toot in public. Oh, under the chin, shit! Only toot in the bathroom. Oh, under the chin! Oh no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Under the chin? Oh no, no, no, no, no. Oh, she got her. It's the best in the world. Oh no, no, no, no. Oh! First round. Damn it. Damn it. That was a big mistake. Oh! First round. Eight. Damn it. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Woo! That was a big mistake. Fuck, that was a mistake. That's a huge victory for her, man. Wow. Huge victory for her. Oh, my God. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Powerful New Mexico in the house. Here's the question, Joe. Do you give her the three-peat against Joanna? Yes! Rose is supposed
Starting point is 01:22:40 to be next, though. Bullshit! Dude, that was a crazy... She snuck it under there. Listen, I go MMA math on that one be next, though. Bullshit! Dude, that was a crazy... She snuck it under there. Listen, I go MMA math on that one. Rose lost to Carolina. Carolina just got murked. Super murked.
Starting point is 01:22:53 I go... She was too relaxed. She went five rounds with you on her. It doesn't matter if you're relaxed or if you look nervous. All that matters is how your ground game matches up. How did that happen? So you're just pretending that everything's cool, leaning against the fence. That's not going to do anything.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Wait, wait, wait. These guys were dangerous on the ground, man. She's so dangerous. What was the mistake she made there? Well, you know, once the thing— Giving her a neck up? Well, Claudia, first of all, is physically a beast. You're in the first round.
Starting point is 01:23:19 No one's tired yet. This is the mistake. She turns away. She turns away. Big mistake. Oh, my God. Instead of turning towards her, she gave her back up. That's the worst thing you could do.
Starting point is 01:23:26 That's second grade bully grass yard shit. Well, you know what it is, man? It's panic shit. You're just like, I don't want to muscle my way back up to my feet. But now she's got control. Under the chin, son. That's what all old school. She's controlling here, right?
Starting point is 01:23:37 Yeah. She's got her. And she's also, if you see her, she's only got one hook in here. She's got two on one. She's got one hook in. She's trying to push. Oh. She's trying to push. Yeah, look at that. And then look at that second hook. here. She's got two on one. She's got one hook. She's trying to push. As long as it's the bottom one that's in.
Starting point is 01:23:46 And then look at that second hook. Once it was under the chin, then she goes second hook. That's a disaster. That's a huge win. Oh, yeah. That's an undeniable choke right there. That's like you're going to sleep. Once it's that deep, she deserves the title shot a little bit.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I think she does. I really want to see Rose because we've seen it. Sorry, Rose. That's so devastating. We've got to see Rose because we've seen it. I'm sorry, Rose. That's so devastating. We've got to go with the bodied up Brazilian. That's devastating to my girlfriend. You need some shit for this. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:24:14 I would like to see her versus Rose. Let's get this started. Yes. If I was Joanna, I would say, oh, my foot hurts. Me too. I'd pull the Duran to me. Oh, my hand. You guys go.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I need to take therapy. pulled a Duran to me. Ah, my hand. You guys go. I need to take therapy. How about Duran to me? Can everyone say her name now? Duran to me went, I'm good. I'll just fuck your belt. Duran to me is like, yeah, I never really wanted to fight 145 in the first place. Going down to 35. And that girl, I'm just like.
Starting point is 01:24:38 You know what? See ya. Is her name Janjic? Janjic. Oh, I got close. Janjic. Little by little. I finally got it after two years.
Starting point is 01:24:47 I would say 80% of MMA fans know how to say her name now. She's getting famous. You know what I mean? I say, he still calls her champion. Bryan Stan, he calls her Joanna Champion. That's because he can't pronounce Janjic. One more time. Janjic.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Janjic. Janjic. Like Young Jamie? No, no, no. Like Y-U-N. They spell it out for me phonetically when I have to read it for the... Young Jin check. When I have to read it, I might be doing it wrong, but when I have to read it for the
Starting point is 01:25:13 weigh-ins, it's like Y-U-N-J-A-Y and then check. What does the last name start with? What's the first letter? J. It's a J. Okay. It's like J-J. J-J-E-Z. Is she just J-J? J-J is good. Is she just J-J. It's a J. Okay. It's like J-J. J-J-E-Z.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Is she just J-J? J-J is good. Is she just J-J? Right, G-S-P? Come on. J-J. A lot of people call her J-J. Is that what they call her?
Starting point is 01:25:32 No, most people call her Young J-J. Not a bad idea, though. She's the only J-J other than Jon Jones. There's one J-J. It's too much confusion. It's too much. Young J-J sounds like J-Y. That's like one of them, once the Thai guys start flooding into MMA, oh, you thought you
Starting point is 01:25:46 had it hard with the Polish people. When the Thai guys come in, they got like 35 letters in some of their hands. Thai guys have been in the UFC for quite some time. Wait, why we're waiting for the next fight? They're coming. They're training. Did you guys see what the fuck Lion Fight did? Thai guys are training.
Starting point is 01:25:58 There's a revolution going on right now. Eddie, did you see what Lion Fight did? They put this dude, Lurdzilla. Do you know who Lurdzilla is? No, I love his name already. He is a multiple world champion. He has 180 Muay Thai fights. How many worlds?
Starting point is 01:26:12 They put him in there with a guy who had zero Muay Thai fights. Listen to me. Muay Thai debut fights Lurdzilla and gets head kicked into another fucking dimension. Why would they do that? Lurdzilla lost? another fucking dimension. Why would they do that? Lurdzilla loves it. Look up there. Why would they do that? No.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Watch this. Look at this. Watch the combination, though. Watch the combination. Hit it again, Jamie. Oh, is it Instagram? Watch this. Why would they do that?
Starting point is 01:26:36 Front kick to the body. Bang. Front leg ground kick. Insane. The other guy's an MMA fighter with a decent record. He's got like a six and four or something comparable There's a Muay Thai champions training MMA at evolve right now Lerdzilla
Starting point is 01:26:54 Do you know how crazy that is? Yeah, he's got the best name on earth Lerdzilla? That's his real name too Look at how relaxed he is when he gives a shit L-E-R-G-E-S-I-L-L-I Look at this front kick to the body and then front round kick out of nowhere. How the fuck did that guy fight him?
Starting point is 01:27:07 That was like a fake leg kick to the head, right? Yeah, fake front kick roundhouse kick or they call it a question mark kick. But what happened was a bunch of people to Lion Fight's, this is to their credit or in the interest of full disclosure, they had two people pull out that didn't want to fight this guy. They're like, fuck that. And this guy was making his debut. He said, I'll fucking fight him. God, what a terrible idea.
Starting point is 01:27:29 If I was his manager, I'd say, listen to me, son. That wasn't an MMA fight, though, right? No. No. But it was a guy who had a record in MMA that was like, it wasn't good. I mean, it was a decent record. A salty record.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Yeah. He had some losses and he had some wins. Like a six and seven or something. But he wasn't Habib Nurmagomedov. Yeah, he had some losses and he had some wins. Like a six and seven. But he wasn't, you know, he wasn't Habib Nurmagomedov. Yeah. And we're not talking about a guy who's like an elite world-class striker and he's fighting this guy, Lurdzilla, who's just a fucking assassin. He probably got a thousand bucks for that and a headache.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Headache for a year. A thousand dollars and a concussion. A year-long headache. Nunes versus Shevchenko is a real fight. That card is filthy. Oh, yeah, dude. Come on. Robert Whitaker.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Top to bottom. I like Robert Whitaker in that fight. And he goes, well, you never know. No, I'm serious. So that's the main fight now that TJ and Cody are out, right? Yoel wins and then he beats Bisbee. How dare you? How dare you?
Starting point is 01:28:22 I've been saying it from day one. What the fuck are you talking about? Robert Whitaker could beat anybody in the world. Did you see him murk? Jacare? Yeah, Joel might win, but he might get put to sleep. He's beat everybody. Excuse me, sir.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Excuse me, gentlemen. He's beat everybody. Who's he lost to? He lost to Jacare. Jacare got fucked in that fight. But he did not lose to Jacare. He's undefeated in MMA other than that, right? Thank you, gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:28:43 And I've been saying it from day one. Two-time world champion, B.K. L. Sanderson. Wow, you really picked an underdog, Brad. But he is a gorilla when it comes to wrestling. He looks like a ninja turtle. It's ridiculous. He's shredding.
Starting point is 01:28:53 He doesn't even look real. He's going to win the world title at 40 years old. He might. He might. Or Robert Whitaker might put those fucking kangaroo paws on him. Robert Whitaker's going to take that fucking right hand from Australia and knock his ass out. Sir, sir, I'm gonna need you to calm down. I'm on the Whittaker
Starting point is 01:29:10 train. You got this 80s NSYNC jacket on, which I appreciate. NSYNC's from early 2000s. Okay, but whatever it is, break it. This would be New Kids on the Block. This would be New Kids on the Block, first of all. And I appreciate it. Thank you. I admire your courage, your fashion courage. Thank you. I'm also outraged at the same time. It's okay. You shouldn't have bought that. Did you get it for free? Of course he bought it. Thank you. I admire your courage, your fashion courage. Thank you. I'm also outraged at the same time.
Starting point is 01:29:26 It's okay. You shouldn't have bought that. Did you get it for free? Of course he bought it. We got it for free. Well, it's New Kids on the Block, man. He got it at the New Kids on the Block store. They're back, by the way.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Okay, so this is the main event. We're at the main event already. Yeah, it's 9 o'clock. Oh, you know what fight? Well, we didn't miss it because it was on the prelims, but Assuncao versus that Morales kid from World Series of Fighting. Oh, you know what fight? Well, we didn't miss it because it was on the prelims, but Asensio versus that Morales kid from World Series of Fighting. Oh, what happened? Asensio beat him. Really?
Starting point is 01:29:51 And I split decisions. Some people think Morales. Yeah, a lot of people think Morales won, but Asensio beat him. Wow, interesting. Marlon Morales, in my opinion, was the best 135-pounder in the world outside of the UFC. World Series of fighting, though. Well, no, but he's really elite. If you look at his skill set and the way he moves and who he's training with.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Mark Henry trained. Mark Henry, Frankie Edgar, Edson Barboza. I mean, that's his camp. Everyone's so high on him, man. I'm high on him, too. I don't buy the hype machine until you get to the UFC, man, until you beat people. You're right, but, I mean, it's his first fight in the UFC. Assunção's a motherfucker. That's a fuck of a the UFC, man, until you beat people. You're right, but I mean, it's his first fight in the UFC. A Sun Tzu's a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:30:26 That's a fuck of a first fight, man. It should be, though. You haven't lost since 2004 or some shit. Okay, true. But if you are the UFC, if the UFC, someone says, look, Brandon Shaw, we're tired of running this. Take care of this. Wouldn't you want to build him up?
Starting point is 01:30:38 I would want to build up Marlon. I would want to let everybody know how good he is. I'd want to give him a highlight reel win in Rio. Yeah, me too, because his striking's so elite. He was knocked bitches out. He's nasty. And they need a new contender. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:30:49 You put him in there with a guy who's a good... A Sun Tzu? He's a monster. A monster. A monster. And he's not that exciting. Right. Yeah, you put him in there with a good 135-pounder who tests him.
Starting point is 01:31:01 But you know what, man? That's how guys lose, and that's how you find out who they are. I mean, that's what happened with Sergio Pettis, right? Fought Alex Caceres. They threw him right to the wolves, and Caceres chokes him out. And you realize, like, okay, you got some shit to learn, kid.
Starting point is 01:31:14 You're fucking talented, but hey, trial by fire. It's the Jager-Rodriguez thing. Mr. Schaub, you know, who do you have in this fight? Because you tend to be pretty scientific about your picks. Man, this one's so tough to pick because of Jose. It's so tough to pick against fucking Jose Aldo.
Starting point is 01:31:30 But I just feel like it's Max Holloway's time. I feel like his boxing, he's bigger. Max Holloway's very smart. And he's very, very, like, fluid with his movements. He moves in and out really good. He stays on the outside. He can do anything. Here's the big question. What?
Starting point is 01:31:46 How's he going to deal with Aldo's leg kicks? Big question. And if he goes to the ground, people forget Aldo's a fucking world champion on the ground. Aldo built, he beat Cobrinha in a regular jiu-jitsu match. Yeah, everyone forgets about his grappling. He's such a beast of a striker. That could be
Starting point is 01:32:02 trouble for Holloway because Holloway just wants to fucking strike. And I think a beast of a striker. That could be trouble for Holloway because Holloway just wants to fucking strike. And I think a lot of it depends on where is Aldo at mentally. Well, he just came off the Frankie Edgar fight and he looked fantastic. But before that, he was talking about, remember, he retired. He wanted to play soccer. That might have been out of anger. Max Holloway's all in, though.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Max Holloway's all in. What else is interesting about Max Holloway and Stipe is these guys, they just run their camps. Like, he's not at some super camp. Why is he holding a British flag up when he's from Hawaii? You son of a bitch. That's a Hawaiian flag. That's a Hawaiian. You don't even know.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Have you been to Hawaii? No. Can we mute his mic for that? You've never been to Hawaii. I thought America was part of the United States. Hawaii is part of the United States. Saudi Arabia and shit. I know.
Starting point is 01:32:41 You son of a bitch. Never Australia and never Hawaii and never South America. What the fuck? Damn, I've been to all those. I know. Weird. When a bitch. Never Australia and never Hawaii and never South America. What the fuck? Damn, I've been to all those. I know. When you talk all this shit about traveling, come to my world.
Starting point is 01:32:50 I will, brother. I know you don't want to talk traveling, too. I'm going tomorrow night. Don't talk traveling with Henry Rollins. Yeah, don't. You'll feel like a townie.
Starting point is 01:32:57 God, that guy's been around, hasn't he? Do you know what he does every year? Picks a spot on the map. It goes like that. Bali. Calls his travel agent.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Where can we go in Bali? And he just flies out to Bali by himself with a laptop and a camera, a pair of underwear, toothbrush. Just lives there. That's cool. Didn't your boy Ari do the same thing because of Henry Rollins? Yeah, Ari went super deep. He went even deeper.
Starting point is 01:33:16 He went for four months. Ari's like, I'll show you Henry Rollins. Dude, that's too much. I'll show you Henry Rollins. Did he come back weird or did he come back awesome? If you're looking for Wi-Fi in your destination, you're not traveling. Ari Shaffir is such a good guy. Fuck your Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Fuck your phone if you really want to travel. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Can't you travel with a phone? I travel all the time and I'd rather stay home. Once you travel to a thousand cities cities you realize that it's an illusion everyone's trying to travel to where I live people are coming from Australia and I'm
Starting point is 01:33:51 going to fucking Tahiti preach brother and you know what because you're walking through the airport right and you see the destination the be all end all some dude's feet on a fucking badass beach that's that's the goal. And then when you get there, you realize, wait a minute, they're cutting off, they framed off the people trying to sell you a fucking crocodile floatie.
Starting point is 01:34:15 You know what I mean? I thought I was going to be alone on this island. I didn't know there was going to be fucking shitty people. I thought I went to Thailand. I go, I'm going to go to deserted fucking island on Thailand. And everyone said, yeah, you can. I go, where?
Starting point is 01:34:32 I go, you need to fucking take a cab three hours. Jumped in a cab three hours. I'm going to. And then we finally get to go. Where are the islands? Oh, you want to go to the island? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:40 I'm thinking I don't give a fuck how much it costs. Let's just go. It's cheaper if you go on a big ferry to this island. or you could take a speedboat and go, fucking speedboat. Let's go. Boom. I'm videotaping everything. We're on a speedboat. I want to go on this fucking island that I see at the airport.
Starting point is 01:34:57 I see them all the time. I don't give a fuck. I'm getting book money and shit. I don't give a fuck. I flew to Thailand nonstop. I go, I'm going to go on a. I don't give a fuck. I flew to Thailand nonstop. I go, I'm going to go on a fucking island. You get there, boom, and there's 200 other people there. And there's like snack bars and shit.
Starting point is 01:35:13 The secret is not your roots, son. What's the matter about me? What happened to that joint? Where'd that joint go? I go, this is the island. There you go. Oh, there it is. It was a trick.
Starting point is 01:35:22 That's crazy. That's crazy. It was a trick. I spent fucking all day finding this fucking island. Dude, I was on a speedboat thinking they were going to take me to this island. Eddie, remember your boy Jason from England? The Maldives. Got to go to the Maldives.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Yeah. Jesus Christ. Probability. Hey, did you see Jose Aldo in Brazil? He has a restaurant. It's just American burgers in Brazil. Really? It's just cheeseburgers. Probably restaurant. It's just American burgers in Brazil. It's just cheeseburgers. It's called Famous Burgers.
Starting point is 01:35:49 That's ridiculous. He is famous and he sells cheeseburgers. Hey man, is that cultural appropriation? Because a bunch of chicks got ran out of Portland. These girls got ran out of Portland because they were white and they were making burritos. Yeah, because the United States is cultural appropriation. That's how you get better as a person.
Starting point is 01:36:05 No, I don't want a white girl making my burrito. Brian's about to go Fox News on us here. That was a Korea. It's fucking ridiculous. They got a Mexican joint in Korea. They play fucking Mexican music. Koreans making the burritos? Rice came from China.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Koreans making Mexican food. They made me chorizo. Boys, if we ever do a Fight Compan that's like in Europe or something like that and it's on the weekend, I got to take you guys to a real legit Mexican joint down the street. Do you guys realize there's a Mexican in the room? Yeah. Okay. There's a super legit, you order for us.
Starting point is 01:36:36 There's a super legit Mexican joint down the street where like all the TV is in Spanish. All the music is Mexican. The people barely speak. You could barely order. You and I and him will be the only English-speaking people in the room. It's fucking tremendous. That's all I eat. They have menudo on the weekend.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Like real, legit menudo. Hey, why do these guys all have berets on? What's going on over here? Super skeptical eyes. Guys, what's going on with the berets? They're in the Guardian Angels. They are? Authentic shit. What's going on over here super skeptical eyes guys? Authentic shit like I was raised with the Mexican like it wasn't we didn't go to them We went to McDonald's when my mom got paid. We're like we're going to all those room on a Mexican restaurants Yeah, yes, dude. He looks tremendous
Starting point is 01:37:21 Like physically dude he looks as good as he's ever lover That looks like Aldo when he fought Chad Mendes for the first fight. What are you saying? He looks fantastic. Looks like he's motivated. I'm not saying shit about steroids, bro. It looks like he has bills for a cheeseburger. I didn't say shit. I didn't say shit.
Starting point is 01:37:37 But just by asking what he meant. He looks tremendous. I was curious. He still is very strict. I think for a guy like Aldo, who has been the champion, besides Conor McGregor, there's only been one ever 145-pound champion in the UFC. That's that guy you're looking at right now. So with a guy like that, I think many times it's a battle of motivation.
Starting point is 01:37:56 I mean, he's so dominant. He's been in the game for so long. And here's the crazy shit. He's only 30. Unbelievable. All the years that Jose Aldo has been dominating and you think about it. I mean, there's a guy who beat Frankie Edgar, right?
Starting point is 01:38:10 First time, beats him. And then beats him again the second time. Maybe even cleaner. Maybe even better, right? For sure. Think about all the people that he fought. The Chad Mendes fight, the second fight's a war. Mendes.
Starting point is 01:38:22 First fight, he KO's him. Remember the Mark Harmonic fight in Toronto? I love you, Eddie. Jesus. Mark had a huge hematoma. But that was also when he was having a hard time making that weight. Yeah. That was when we did that press conference the day before the fight, and it was the day
Starting point is 01:38:37 of the weigh-ins, and he could barely be on the DS because he was so weakened by the weight cut because he hadn't weighed in yet. I think Aldo, I mean, the crazy thing is he's always going to be judged by that Conor McGregor fight. Which is fucked up. It's kind of crazy. I don't judge him for that. Fuck that. But it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:38:53 But you kind of have to. Well, that's his biggest high-profile fight. Conor showed that a guy can come in, a guy as talented as Conor, can come in and, first of all, fuck with his head. Which Conor absolutely did. Get inside of his head, create a lot of stress, create a lot of pressure, force him to rush, and then Connor just relaxes, fuck, slides out of the way, and drops that left-hand bomb on him. Here's a question for you guys.
Starting point is 01:39:17 He solved the puzzle. What happens if Holloway comes in and murks him in the first round with his strike, and then it's going to really taint his legacy? Here's the real question. Because he's never fought any really, really good striker except for Conor Holloway, if you think about it. Or what happens if Aldo kicks the shit out of
Starting point is 01:39:32 his legs and has him hobbling and wobbling really early and winds up stopping him. Do you have another Conor fight? I mean, does Conor never fight at 45? Does he go up to 55? He should. He says he wants to. You see Dana goes, just to get him to commit this, I have to have a serious talk with him. Connor's never going to fight you.
Starting point is 01:39:47 You've got to move on. That's never happening. That's so crazy for a guy. Why would Connor make a fucking hundred-a-gillion dollars fighting Floyd and then come back and take on a fight against Jose Aldo? You're right. You've got nothing to win. You're right, but is a guy that just fought Eddie Alvarez a year ago.
Starting point is 01:40:02 True. And you've got to remember, the result of what happens with Mayweather is huge. Like, let's say Mayweather, let's just say that on the off chance that Mayweather just, just, it just mercs him, it just doesn't get hit,
Starting point is 01:40:17 not even once. After that, Conor's going to come back with the fury. He's going to come back with the fury to the UFC and say, fuck boxing, I'm going to come back and this is my sport. Right. And I'm going to dominate. He'll going to come back with the fury to the UFC and say, fuck boxing. I'm going to come back and this is my sport
Starting point is 01:40:27 and I'm going to dominate. He'll fight at welterweight. See, if he makes it to a decision, he looks tough. He won't be tainted. It all depends on what happens. If he loses a decision,
Starting point is 01:40:34 if he gets super played with, he's going to come back to the UFC with a fury. Yes. But he'll also be a little tainted. If he goes to the decision like you were saying,
Starting point is 01:40:43 it's a win for MMA. Yeah, but it's close. If it's close. Big time win for us. No, not even if it's close. No, no, I think even if he gets out class for 12 rounds.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Because there's no way Conor would ever let Floyd survive. There's not a chance. But Mayweather is... But hold on. If they had a five round MMA fight,
Starting point is 01:40:57 let's all agree. Uh-oh. Floyd Mayweather would never fucking survive. The last 30 seconds. There's a chance in hell. There's a chance. There's a very, very, very,
Starting point is 01:41:04 very slight chance that he re-immerses him. I have to bring you guys to the attention of the great Jose Aldo. We have to watch this fight and give it the respect it deserves. Listen, settle down. No, I won't settle down because this is a very serious fight. It all depends on what kind of takedown training or takedown defense training Floyd Mayweather puts himself through. Does he put himself through the delusional kind of training or the real legit takedown defense? That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Here they go. Here they go. 457, 456, 455, 454 if you're sinking. It's one of the best matchups of the year. If not the best. I'm not feeling each other out here. How nervous are they both? Max Holloway looks very smooth and relaxed.
Starting point is 01:41:47 So does Aldo. Everybody looks good. No one's doing nothing. Let's see what's up with that. A lot of respect. I just want to see Holloway's answer for those leg kicks. Well, the thing is, Holloway's very clever. He's not going to rush in, man.
Starting point is 01:41:59 If you see the way he fought Jeremy Stevens, I mean, he adapts the way he fought Cub Swanson. One of the more interesting things about Holloway is because he talks, you know, he's like a cool Hawaiian kid. Like, people kind of sleep on that. Like, they think of Hawaiians as being, like, fun-loving, like, surfing, partying people.
Starting point is 01:42:16 You know what I mean? It's BJ Penn. I know, but there's something about, like, the way he talks and acts. There's something about it. It's almost like you think he's just so nervous right now. Is BJ Tagermark coming back? Yes.
Starting point is 01:42:29 He's still fighting. He's fighting fucking homeboy. I feel like Aldo. Dennis Seaver. Dennis Seaver. And Dennis still doing the damn thing. Yair was too much. BJ can still have some awesome fights, but Yair was just not the right matchup.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Hey, does Aldo look like himself right now, or does he look nervous? Oh, he looks perfect. Nothing's happened. Right now, he's just moving. See, he is probably aware that Max Holloway wants him to commit, and Max wants a counter. Max is a taller, longer fighter, and he's also... Max is very good at not loading up.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Have you ever watched Max Holloway's fights? He throws things very precise, for the most part. I mean, he'll load up if he can, if he can get away with it. But he's like... Win by attrition? He's just very technical with his striking. He doesn't have a lot of fat. Super straight punches. Yes, exactly. Very straight punches. He doesn't have a lot of fat in his movements. And
Starting point is 01:43:13 because he's a long, tall guy, that makes up for... It means so much. He's got long, tall, which is great. And then he also has super efficient movement. He's hard to hit, man. He's hard to hit. Yeah, he's really hard to get a clean clean punch. Yeah, super hard to hit and again He's fucking smart max. I always fight IQ is very high super high crazy doesn't come from the super camp either But he just
Starting point is 01:43:36 Look he clipped all the right there with that left hook and he also knows how dangerous all those's leg kicks are. So right now, Max Holler's aware. Oh, shit. Oh, oh, oh! Oh, he dug him! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Jose Aldo. Aldo's on fire.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Holy shit. On fire. Oh, my God. Oh, he woke up a lion. Oh, my God. God, dude. Jesus, you forget. When he gets in that kind of rhythm, forget about it.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Next, you forget how good Aldo is. You let him get that kind of confidence. I remember when he hit Chad Mendes with the dutchie. He hit him with that left hook to the body and that right leg kick. And you watch him do it and you go, oh, Jesus. Max Holloway weathered that storm. He weathered that fucking storm. Fuck yeah, he did.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Jesus. His eyes are wide open. Chad should be coming back any day now, right? Off the suspension. Yeah. Do you know what his suspension was for? No. I mean, straight up PD.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Oh! Well, no. It was for something that he used for psoriasis. There's some shit they tested. Chimera? There's something in some psoriasis medication that makes you piss hot. Meanwhile, I sound like a fucking alpha male apologist right there, don't I? Yeah, legit, PEDs. No, Brendan.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Arthritis. Even though Chad Mendes could jump out of a fucking five-foot pool and he's only five foot seven. No, he's a freak. He is a freak. Super freak athlete. But for real, that is what he said. I believe him.
Starting point is 01:44:56 I cured my psoriasis. He does have it. I know he doesn't have it. There's a lot of photos with it where you can see it on his skin. And I know that steroids are a way that they handle that shit. But if you just put that on the thing, you might be alright. GHRP is what it was before it came out. He had no
Starting point is 01:45:09 idea what it was. Mendes explained when the test results came back, they told me I tested positive for it. I was like, I don't even know what that is. Bunch of research. Oh, man, that sucks. I love Chad. It says it's used to treat plaque psoriasis, a skin condition he's been dealing with for years.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Fuck. So it seems legit. Poor Chad. Yeah. Hey, fucking USADA, relax. Yeah, but he's- Oh! Oh, uppercuts! Oh, my God!
Starting point is 01:45:32 Dude, Max Holloway can take it. Yeah, he can. Oh, Max Holloway dung him back. This is a fucking- I'll tell you what, there's a huge speed advantage on Aldo's side. Aldo's so goddamn explosive. He's so good at closing the gap, man. Like, you remember that Mendes knee he landed in their first fight?
Starting point is 01:45:49 Oh, my God. Woo! And I'll never forget calling the Uriah Faber fight. Oh, my God. Look at that. Uriah Faber fight was one of the most horrific displays of leg kicks I've ever seen. Oh, it was the worst thing in the world. Uriah said he wanted to faint.
Starting point is 01:46:02 He was trying not to faint from the pain. That's what he said. How tough is Uriah Fane? Toughest of toughest. I think toughest guy to ever step on the ice. He's going to the UFC Hall of Fame. Never quit in that fight. Toughest guy.
Starting point is 01:46:12 He broke both his hands against fucking Mike Brown. He kept fighting. Kept fighting. Nobody tougher than that guy. You don't get tougher. Dude, first round. First fucking round. And then he documented the damage to his leg.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Oh, my God. Oh, Max Holloway. Nah, that doesn't work on Jose Aldo. Well, it would oh my god oh max hall with a man that doesn't work on Jose Aldo's well it worked so there's something in psoriasis that shows up in the steroid test treatment for psoriasis something in the treatment that shows up man that'd be a good idea I had it on some juice a hey listen go get it like go get a prescription for this stuff. Oh, look at that. Right away you do it. Look at that uppercut left hook.
Starting point is 01:46:49 That was brilliant. But I cured my psoriasis. I have plaque psoriasis. I cured, I don't know what happened, but I just stopped. I heard you were sucking a lot of dicks. Sucking dicks. Now you can do steroids. I was sucking strange dicks in Bust Room John's.
Starting point is 01:46:59 I'm 12. Sucking dicks. Oh, yeah, bro. Heard you were sucking dicks. and then suck in the dick no and then I oh yeah bro heard you were sucking dicks I stopped eating taking touching cow dairy and
Starting point is 01:47:10 there's this book you ever read a book called The Plant Paradox about lectins really good book about psoriasis yeah put your right to sleep
Starting point is 01:47:17 well there's certain there's psoriasis can you imagine a book about psoriasis I'm just listening what kind of books are you reading but if you had psoriasis like he did that's a reason to read it you ever seen that documentary about psoriasis do you have psoriasis? I'm just listening. What kind of books are you reading? But if you had psoriasis like he did, that's a reason to read it.
Starting point is 01:47:26 You haven't seen that documentary on psoriasis? Do you have psoriasis? Literally. But he's recommending it to you. No, no. Literally. I get it on my face. I get it on my legs.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Really bad. Round two. Here we go. I couldn't wear shorts. Here we go. We all agree Aldo won that first round. Fuck yes. Fuck yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:47:45 That book. 9 to 10, 8. Dude, he looks good. He looks good. Cool. Oh, that fucking sneaky left hook to the body, man. Dude. Aldo, one of the best ever, ever, ever, still.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Dude, that sneaky left hook to the body is no joke, and he follows it up with that right leg kick a lot. And by the way, he hasn't thrown any of them yet. Not one. No. He doesn't need to. He threw one. That's the way, he hasn't thrown any of them yet. Not one. No. He doesn't need to. He threw one. That's the same thing he did.
Starting point is 01:48:07 He threw one, maybe. But that's the same thing that happened with Frankie Edgar. See, a lot of people anticipate the idea that Aldo's going to try to take him down. Opens his hands up. Oh, but Aldo's got some serious fucking hands. And when he knows he's not going to kick you, but you think he might kick you, then it opens up his hands. Makes you hesitate.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Dude, and his hands are no fucking joke. Dude, he's so much faster than Holloway. Dude, all those hands are like lightning. He's been talking lately. I mean, I would like to find out how serious he is, but he's been talking lately about possibly one day fighting in pro boxing. That's not out of the question. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:48:42 He needs to come to 55. He's coming to 55 He needs to come to 55 I think you're probably right What's left for him at 45? Let's be real Well I mean Who knows man I mean he seems to be
Starting point is 01:48:50 This If he makes it through Five rounds Looking like this We gotta shut the fuck up Cause he made 45 100% I know but
Starting point is 01:48:56 Who's he gonna fight? Oh my god But it doesn't matter He's looking fantastic Unless They can Make a case for him To fight McGregor
Starting point is 01:49:04 At 55 They should Yes at 55 At 55 Connor's never coming down a case for him to fight McGregor. At 55. They should. Yes, at 55. At 55. Conor's never coming down to 45 for him. But I would feel like if I was Aldo, you have to become undeniable. Oh, my God. And at 30 years old, he can become undeniable still.
Starting point is 01:49:18 I mean, to us, to the hardcore fans, he's undeniable. Undeniable. But in order to sell that big pay-per-view that would make Conor want to come down to fight him. Get your revenge. He's got to merc everybody. He's got to become this guy like Gennady Golovkin. To the point where Canelo
Starting point is 01:49:35 had to fight him. Everybody keeps talking about Golovkin, Golovkin, Golovkin. That was good. What happens if Jose Aldo came up and fought fucking Khabib Or Tony Ferguson Merck then Then Connor
Starting point is 01:49:48 Almost forced to fight him Crazy Yeah He starts talking shit Yeah He and Merck and Tony I'll tell you that much No I knew you were
Starting point is 01:49:55 Going to say that I'm just saying You'd have to do Come on Let's be real Let's be real Oh no He's too much
Starting point is 01:50:01 Tony's a slaughter Listen I feel like Tony is so fucking durable And so nasty Just like such a natural fighter He's so game He's too big He's so game
Starting point is 01:50:11 For a 45 Super smart Super skillful And disciplined as fuck Tony's a handful for anybody Anybody Anybody I need to see him
Starting point is 01:50:20 In fucking Khabib fight I know man I'm gonna freak the fuck out You know what Tony should just ask him Like hey man What do you weigh? Let's fight at 65.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Let's just fight. So you don't die. Yeah, don't die. Let's fight. Oh! Max Holloway tagged him! Max Holloway long with those punches. I don't think he tagged him actually. He got pretty good there. Oh! Man, this is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Two of the very best. Not a whole lot of kicking, folks. Because I think Jose is afraid he's going to catch a right hand if he kicks. Although. I mean. I'll tell you what, though. Max is showing his fight IQ, man. He's showing his fight IQ.
Starting point is 01:50:56 Look how he's stretching those arms out in front of him. Give me an idea how good Connor is. He beat both these dudes. Yeah. But also, like, you see how he's doing that? First of all, he's doing it totally legal. Oh! Good head movement.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Oh, my God. Oh, he tagged him with the right again. This is crazy. Hey, Connor beat him, too, with a torn knee, by the way. I don't want to hear about that. Oh, body kick. Damn, they're going off now. Woo!
Starting point is 01:51:18 Man. That was a strong kick to the body by Max. Get him back. Holy shit. What a fight. What a fight. Max has a chin like a motherfucker. My God, does he ever. He's a savage. Get him back. Holy shit, what a fight. What a fight. Max has a chin like a motherfucker. My God, does he ever.
Starting point is 01:51:28 He's a savage. Does he ever. So is Aldo, man. Let me actually say that. You know what? If you take away that one punch by Conor when he ran into it. I know, he's the best ever. He's the best ever.
Starting point is 01:51:36 He's pound for pound number one. It's crazy. I would say. It's crazy. But he did take that hit. Come on, Joe. But he did take that hit. Ain't that a bitch?
Starting point is 01:51:42 So you know what it is, man? It's like there's a puzzle to every fighter. The question is, did he seal that puzzle problem up, that little hole that Conor found? Did he seal that up? We won't know until he fights Conor. We won't know. Damn it, they have to fight. At 55, that'd be a mega fight.
Starting point is 01:51:56 If you were the head of the UFC, would you be like, listen, we've got to make this happen, boys? No. What would you do? I would have Conor probably fight GSP. Fight Floyd first. I'd have him fight Floyd then GSP. Good head movement. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:52:08 I want people to be educated. Oh, nice jab. Oh, man. I want people to feel about fights the way we feel about fights. You know what I'm saying? I hear you. I want people to be educated. Oh!
Starting point is 01:52:20 Oh! Damn! Max nodded at him. He's like, Colin. Oh, hands up. Hands up. Hands down. Oh, shit. Max Holloway. Oh! Damn! Max nodded at him. He's like, Colin! Hands up! Hands up! Hands down! Oh, shit!
Starting point is 01:52:27 Max Holloway! The Hawaii Diaz, baby! It's a Hawaii Diaz tactic. Open hand slap. He just bitch slapped him. Oh, shit! Careful. You know what happened there after the bell, though?
Starting point is 01:52:43 Jesus. Max was trying to give him the thumbs up, and Aldo turned his back. So Max lost a psychological war there. He gave a thumbs up to a dude who had his back to him. That's not good. What a fight! What a fight! Max Holloway's a goddamn savage.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Max is down two, though, you think? I mean, probably, right? If you had to guess. It's in Brazil remember That is clean that's clean so much quickly he looks good look at this one Diaz move I love it I love it. I love it and look at see that He gave the thumb to his back never nice You gotta be quick Pull that thumb back And then you gotta take that hand And you gotta double
Starting point is 01:53:27 And you might need to walk towards him After that You might need to walk towards him And no stool in between rounds now As dangerous as Aldo is standing He's got high level chokes Oh yeah Look at that ball relaxed I'm not mad at his high-level chokes. Oh, yeah. Almost a world-class jiu-jitsu guy, man. Look, he's jacked.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Look at that ball relaxed. That's not even being thought about at this point. There's no jiu-jitsu going on here at all. He's got a salsa mustache. Bodied up in this fight, too.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Great head movement. Mr. Steal-Yo-Girl with that face right here. Right? Mr. Steal-Yo-Girl. I wish I could pull that off. Okay, so here's the question. We're in round three now, right?
Starting point is 01:54:06 It's 4-44. Max is down two. Let's be real. Yeah, I would say, right? If you had to look at the scorecard. Yeah. But interesting rounds, right? Max has got his.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Both guys have gotten things off, but Aldo looks fucking sensational. Only the second round was a little interesting. The first round, I was like, well, Max is about to get smart. Brennan, please make a t-shirt. You're crazy. I was interested in the first round. No, I'm saying that first round, though, like, well, Mac's about to get smart. Brennan, please make a t-shirt. Oh, please. You're crazy. I was interested in the first round. No, I'm saying that first round, though, Mac's really got outclassed. I don't think
Starting point is 01:54:29 there was a big long period in the beginning where everybody was waiting for somebody to move. True. And then Aldo eventually got the best of the exchanges. He's just showing some real next level speed. Look at Mac trying to get him back. Oh, nope. He's letting him out.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Oh, my God. Here's the him out. Oh, my God. This is some... Here's the other thing. You've got to realize how many wars Aldo's already been in. I mean, think about this. The only real fight that took a lot out of him was the Chad Mendes thing, though. I mean, and also Conor. Well, he's had two...
Starting point is 01:55:00 The Ricardo-Lamas fight. Lamas had him on his back, and he's punched him. Oh, my God. The Socomnic fight. Socomnic. It's getting crazy now, guys. Ricardo Llamas fight Llamas had him on his back and he's punching him oh my god so did Hominick shit's getting crazy now guys but he was on antibiotics when he was shit's getting nuts
Starting point is 01:55:10 oh my god yeah it is Brennan please oh my god Max Holloway tagged him they're going off oh knee to the body oh gangsters
Starting point is 01:55:20 Max Holloway both of them Aldo with that sweet knee I know I don't know I'm hating on Aldo. I don't get it. I just want Max to win for some reason.
Starting point is 01:55:30 You know what? One of the best things that's ever happened out of being a commentator is learning how to appreciate just a performance. Oh, yeah. Not me. I've got favorites. I always had favorites, man. Always.
Starting point is 01:55:41 When I was a... You're only human. Oh, that right hand. I try not to now. But if somebody that I'm to now but like if somebody that I'm friends with like if cowboy fights oh it's the worst it's hard it's hard for me very very hard for me to call your fights were the hardest I've ever had a call really 100% so hardest I've ever had a call so you have to like Oh my god, oh he's hurting it's not over yet
Starting point is 01:56:11 Mount oh my god. Oh my god So grappling going on Let him up. Yeah, I him up, Max. Yeah, Aldo is on Clear Street. Oh, my goodness. Make him get up, Max. Knock him out. Oh, what heart. What heart. What heart is right.
Starting point is 01:56:30 What heart by Aldo to survive this. He's tubing with Jiu-Jitsu right there. His Jiu-Jitsu's. By time control. Look at this. Alive. Oh, shit. He has Jiu-Jitsu.
Starting point is 01:56:39 He's so battered, man. Oh. Holloway's at the door. Almost out. Oh No more burger joints, oh fuck man It's over Sneak out the back door what he's gonna try to do is use his- Oh! He's going under the chin! He's going under the chin!
Starting point is 01:57:10 He's got it! Oh my god. Oh my god. I don't like that move. He's taking full power. He's playing recover. I don't know about all that dude. This dude's hurting. Oh!
Starting point is 01:57:26 Oh, my God. Which ref is that? Oh, that's Big John. He knows what he's doing. Oh, head on. Head on, son. No, he's at the wrong. His arm's in the wrong spot. Oh!
Starting point is 01:57:34 This is a two. Oh! This is their ass. If he just pours it on right now, he's going to stop. Come on. Come on. That's it. No.
Starting point is 01:57:41 No, no, no. Oh, my goodness. He's defending. Oh, my goodness. He's defending. No, no, get in. Get the arm. Get the arm, Jose. Cover it No, no, no. Oh, my goodness. He's defending. Oh, my goodness. He's defending. No, no, get in. Get the arm. Get the arm, Jose.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Cover up. Cover up. Now what? Now what? That's it. They're going to stop it. No, he's going to say, defend yourself. Defend yourself.
Starting point is 01:57:53 No, he's saying I'm good. My ref didn't hear that last fight. But when he said it was fine. You can't stop it yet. You can't stop it. He told the ref he said it was fine. That's it. Oh!
Starting point is 01:58:04 Oh, my God. Wow. Max, you're a fucking holloway it. That's it. Oh. Oh, my God. Wow. Max fucking Holloway. Wow. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Holy shit. Oh, my God. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:58:11 The star is born, gentlemen. Holy shit. Hawaii finally gets the royal champ. God damn. Fucking Hawaii. Holy shit, Max Holloway. You know what, man? Aldo, he's shaking his head
Starting point is 01:58:25 because he still wanted to be able to fight and it's a referee's call to stop the fight and he's very upset about that. He was stuck. But man, it seemed legit to me. That was a legit stoppage. It seemed legit to me. It seemed like it wasn't intelligently about himself.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Oh, you know it's legit. Eddie agreed. You don't think it was legit? It was legit. Yes! Oh yeah. You think it's legit, right? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 01:58:46 I would imagine. They could have stopped it a long time ago. You have to protect the fighter from himself. I agree with you. I like that Big John let it go that long. I like that. He's the best. Hey, you know what?
Starting point is 01:58:57 That was a fight that you rarely see. He took a beating for like two minutes straight. Yep. Yep. Came back, man. He got tagged. He got sad that white girl was. Damn, yep, came back, man. You got tagged. Is that a girl? He got sad that white girl is.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Damn, dude. So hard, man. She sees what he goes through, man. What an incredible fight. Look at Max, son. Oh, let him jump in the fucking crowd. He wants that flag. He wants his Hawaiian flag, man.
Starting point is 01:59:18 Yes, no, there's his family that flew all the way from Hawaii for God's sakes. Where's Jason Momoa? Where's The Rock? What the fuck? Yeah, Brock Riet, man. He got a world champion in Hawaii. Cleveland! Cleveland, we got a world champ!
Starting point is 01:59:30 Fuck yes. Cleveland, we got a world champ! Stipe. That's right. That's one of my all-time favorite, a guy who just won the title things. The Stipe Miocic did. What did he say about his kitchen? He ran out onto the cage.
Starting point is 01:59:43 He couldn't believe it after he knocked out. Cleveland, we got a world champ! There's a serious Cleveland move. Machine Gun Kelly, right? You like him? You like Machine Gun Kelly? He's actually from Colorado. Jamie likes to say something nice or say nothing at all.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Hey, listen, there's a serious movement in Cleveland. Yeah, well, listen, Cleveland is a... I had a great fucking time. We did a UFC in Cleveland just a little while ago. I did a show movement in Cleveland. Yeah, well, listen, Cleveland is a... I had a great fucking time. We did a UFC in Cleveland just a little while ago. Poor Joe. I did a show there in Cleveland. I had a fucking great time, man. They're fun.
Starting point is 02:00:12 Dude. That city's coming back to life. Hawaii is fucking coming back to life. Yeah, let's talk about Hall of Fame here. Look at this. Ba-bang. Boom! Bam!
Starting point is 02:00:20 Oh, come on, son. Drops him with that right hand. Nothing fancy, is it? The one-two, the one-two. Beautiful timing, though, man. Beautiful timing. Look at this. Look at this.
Starting point is 02:00:28 Look at that. Oh, my. Timing with that right hand. It's perfection. He's on top of him, dropping bombs on him. There was a couple of times in the fight where it looked like Aldo went out, but his will and his need to fucking get through this. Like, right there.
Starting point is 02:00:43 Bang. Come on, man. Do you know how hard it is to beat Jose Aldo? So hard. He's lost once in a kind of freak fight with Conor. Other than that. And to beat him like this. I mean, Max Holloway beat the shit out of him.
Starting point is 02:00:54 He beat him in a way that no one's ever beat him. He took his best and kept going, too. And he beat him in a way that no one's ever beat him. Conor only beat him because he caught him. Max Holloway beat him down. Beat him, beat him. Yeah, outclassed him there. He beat him because he caught him. Max Holloway beat him down. Beat him, beat him. He beat him. He beat him down.
Starting point is 02:01:07 He got through the gauntlet. How big is Max Holloway going to be? Hawaii and fighting is fucking. Giant. I've been singing. How happy is BJ Penn right now? He's going to own that island. I've been singing that kid's praises for a long time.
Starting point is 02:01:19 He came into the UFC super young. Oh, look at poor Jose. Super young, too. Who's the guy in the background holding that belt? Like, it's his. Oh, no. Jose is devastated. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:01:29 It's the worst. He's devastated. He still has to lose, though, don't they? Yeah. Hey, man. Hey, man. It is what it is. He did a great job.
Starting point is 02:01:35 He's a great fighter. It is what it is. This is fighting, and people win and people lose. And the sport, ultimately, it depends upon these sort of fights. It depends upon these all-time greats like Aldo facing some guy who's got the solution to what that guy presents. And that's what Aldo did tonight. I mean, he went out there with all of his championship medal, and he laid it all on the line. He fought his best, and his puzzle got solved by the new breed.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Let's hear what he has to say. How good is this? Conor beat both these guys. Give us some volume. I know. Conor beat both these guys. He beat him with a torn ACL. Look at this.
Starting point is 02:02:12 But a long time ago. Still is. It's incredible. Max Holloway. First and foremost, I thank my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Second of all, I got a lovely son at home. Baby Rush. You got another gold one, baby.
Starting point is 02:02:28 You got another gold belt. And I got to thank God. Rush Holloway. Great name. I love it. George Rush St. Pierre. Inspired? Yes or no?
Starting point is 02:02:36 Nah. He's Hawaiian. Wow. They're booing you now, though. Cheer on your fellow countrymen. By day and day, you guys fight fans. I love you now, though. Powerful shout-out to Brazil.
Starting point is 02:02:52 Always a good move. Yeah, but they're booing him. They're booing him. Of course they're booing him. They feel like the fight shouldn't have been stopped because their guy got beat. You're smart on that, Brazil. Slow. Why you got to bring up old shit
Starting point is 02:03:25 Where's my 50k? UFC Hawaii You made the decision right there That was smart UFC Hawaii Wow, it's tough UFC Hawaii would be the shit Fuck I don't travel overseas
Starting point is 02:03:35 But I will fucking fly to Hawaii In a heartbeat I will definitely be there Let's make it happen How about we do a joint show Up in that motherfucker? What? We missed.
Starting point is 02:03:50 How about we do a joint show? Yeah. How about we do a fight companion in Hawaii? If they do a UFC in Hawaii, we all fly out to Hawaii and do some sort of a fight companion in Hawaii. So even if I don't work the event. I'm in. I'm in. We're still there. Let's be in Hawaii. Yes. Let's see if we can get a fight companion in Hawaii. So even if I don't work the event. I'm in. I'm still there.
Starting point is 02:04:05 Let's be in Hawaii. Yes. Let's see if we can get a fight companion booth. Let's just cut the shit. Okay. UFC, do you hate a fight companion booth? This is like a... You would then do a fight companion?
Starting point is 02:04:15 Like actually at the show? And get a vineyard to sponsor? This is what I'm thinking. No, we do it for four seasons. This is what I'm thinking. This is what I'm thinking. This is the kind of commentary I like doing. So what we need to do
Starting point is 02:04:25 is we need to treat the fight companion like an embassy. Like we have our own special country rules. Yes. Yes. Just put us
Starting point is 02:04:33 right in there live. Yes. Just leave us alone. I want you to take this desk. We'll put it in ringside with bottles of wine. I want you to bring Jamie
Starting point is 02:04:41 all the clutter. All the clutter. And let us do commentary. You don't have to listen. You got other options. You can Jamie all the clutter. Bottles of wine. All the clutter. And let us do commentary. You don't have to listen. You've got other options. You can listen to the corners. It's a choice. You can listen to the corners, man.
Starting point is 02:04:50 It's a choice, man. Spanish options, right? You can switch over to Spanish. The Spanish option. Oh, hey. You can listen to it in Brazil. You can listen to it in Portuguese. Then there's that green line green fight companion button.
Starting point is 02:04:59 I think it would be cool in a suite. We need to sit down with Dana White and have a fucking conversation. Wouldn't it be better in one of those group suites instead of ringside? That would be the best. We could do a fancy four season and watch it. We could totally do that. Or we could just keep doing it from here. Or not get on a plane for five hours.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Exactly. Let's just do it here. Do you imagine if they offered that in Fight Companion? If that was one of the options? Like you get Fight Companion or in Fight Pass, you get Fight Companion commentary. You one of the options like you get Fight Companion or in Fight Pass you get Fight Companion commentary
Starting point is 02:05:28 you know how big their ratings would go up they would have already contacted you they don't want to do that they can't do it it's too crazy they decided
Starting point is 02:05:36 that it's not a good idea come on man how many times they decided long ago they're not on the fence pedophiles they're not talking about
Starting point is 02:05:43 someone getting raped we need to keep those motherfuckers away there's 42,000 people watching right now They're not on the fence. Pedophiles. They're not on the fence. We're talking about someone getting raped. We're talking about someone getting raped. We need to keep those motherfuckers away. There's 42,000 people watching right now. Damn. That many? Yeah. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:05:52 Is that a record? I don't know, man. I think the record is Alex Jones, right? Yeah, it was like 60-something. Jesus. I forget people are even watching. There's a lot at the stadium watching this right now. Dude, how about Derek Wilson, Mark Hunt?
Starting point is 02:06:03 Look at that fight. I should have done my hair. Derek Brunson, Daniel Kelly. Daniel Kelly might just be able to beat everybody. There's something weird about that dude. He has some weird old man thing going on. I can't figure it out. And the judo thing, man.
Starting point is 02:06:14 The competitor thing. And the double knee braces, right? It's crazy. His knees are fucked up. I asked him about it after the last time I interviewed him after a fight. And he said if he wasn't fighting, he would get surgery. Fuck. He said, but as long as they
Starting point is 02:06:26 let him tape the fuck out of his knees. Dude, he's like a mummy. All judo guys, usually judo people I know, all their knees are fucked city. Their knees get jacked. Goddamn, Max Holloway with some long ass punches. Look at how fast Holloway is. Holloway with that fucking long punch, but Aldo countered him.
Starting point is 02:06:42 Oh, look at that right hand. The head movement is amazing. Dude, Aldo countered him and hit him some real good shots. But that's it! That's how good Mask is. You know what's crazy is... Some people thought maybe Cub Swanson would get the next shot, but Max fucking annihilated Cub. Yeah, well, you know what?
Starting point is 02:06:58 Here's what's important about this fight. It's not just that Max Holloway did this, but that Max Holloway did this to Jose Aldo. Max Holloway left no doubt in anyone's mind, this is the best 145-pound fighter on the planet Earth. If you look at how Aldo got past Frankie Edgar, you look at how Aldo got past everybody except for Conor, and then you know that Conor's not coming down to 145 anymore.
Starting point is 02:07:21 That's the motherfucker right there, and he made it ecstatic tonight. Holloway Frankie. You're welcome. Hey, I gift you that. What in the world? Don't you think that Yair Rodriguez has two forks in the road, right?
Starting point is 02:07:36 There's the fork of unrealized potential. So he comes into this fight. He's got BJ Penn behind him, right? He annihilates BJ Penn. He hits BJ Penn, one of the greatest of all time, Hall of Famer, with a 360 round kick to the neck. That just doesn't happen, right? Yeah. And then he gets murked by Frankie.
Starting point is 02:07:53 Destroyed. He's not ready for this top five. He's not ready. But he has two paths. Either he can learn from how Frankie was able to take him down and beat the fuck out of him and then figure out a way to never let that happen again or be overwhelmed by the pressure of that loss and the circumstances and the sorrow.
Starting point is 02:08:13 Depends on his mindset. But it also depends on matchups. Like, I like Yair versus Holloway. That's a great fight. Very good fight. Because Holloway's not going to take him down, so it's just striking for striker. They're both big 45ers.
Starting point is 02:08:23 That's a great fight. I bet Yair would be... It'd That's a great fight. I bet you it'd be damn near even money, I bet. Yeah, but I guarantee you're going to see Max Holloway taking people down, too. I think that dude is smart as fuck. He ain't taking Frankie down. He's not going to take Frankie down. You're right.
Starting point is 02:08:37 But he's also got an extra foot reach advantage. But Joe, there's really a lot of grapplers left besides Frankie. You're right. Frankie's the big threat. If you're a guy who can't stop a takedown, the number one threat is Frankie. And then why give him to Yair? Why would you give him the one guy who can grapple his
Starting point is 02:08:54 ass off? Yeah, but the UFC still gotta protect them. That's eating your own young. You're eating your young. You say that. You believe in protecting fighters? You get a guy like Jon Jones. Jon Jones, youngest ever, does a flying knee in his opening move against Shogun. Look what he did before that. But that's what makes those guys.
Starting point is 02:09:11 That's a hard case, though, because you don't give him to a grappler like Frankie, knowing that the guy cannot stop that takeout. Give him time to develop and give him the other guys who are very exciting strikers. He's a star. Jon, before he won the title guys who are very exciting strikers. Because he's a star. He's a star in quality. John, before he won the title, had some very good fights. Big time. But his real good fights were after he got the title.
Starting point is 02:09:31 For sure. But he destroyed Brandon Vera, Matyshenko. Gustavo Gontes. Yeah. Cradled Ryan Banner. The Gontes fight, the Stefan Bonner fight was one of the most interesting ones. Because he showed how creative he was. When he picked up the single leg spinning elbow.
Starting point is 02:09:45 Yeah, he showed how creative he is, and he showed how fluid his movement is, and he just showed that he was on another level. But like, Jair really never got that. But also, Jair, like, he had a split decision win over Bruce Leroy. Right. Very good point.
Starting point is 02:09:57 And then they're like, oh, here's Frankie Edgar. It's like, God, damn. Yeah, it's a very good point. Because I feel like he felt so good after the BJ Penn fight He felt like he had arrived and he's like that Alex Caceres fight is out the window I'm fucking past that now and he might have been but he wasn't there's just just just there's levels levels You know how it is says this level everybody everybody that knows anybody in any kind of martial art whether it's boxing or wrestling or
Starting point is 02:10:24 Jiu-jitsu, there's always people who overestimate their proficiency. It's pronounced jiu-jitsu. I'm going to get some more Italian wine. Make sure it's fruity. Quit that earthy shit. This is your fruity? That's your California? The boys and I were hanging in Italy? I'm fucking super impressed with Max Holloway, man.
Starting point is 02:10:41 Me too, man. Him versus Frank, I bet, is coming next. Isn't he only 25? How old is Max Holloway, man. Wow, me too, man. Him versus Frank Abbott's coming next. Isn't he only 25? How old is Max Holloway now? I want to say he got into the UFC when he was either 20 or 21. Why not do a UFC in Hawaii, though? Because Hawaii and UFC go together like fucking peanut butter and jelly, man. They fucking love fighting.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Because BJ. BJ started that, man. Dude, listen. Now you've got a legit champ. Yeah, and a legit champ that just beat. Who's a striker. Look, I've got to say Conor's, and a legit champ to just beat. Who's a striker. Arguably one of the great. Look, I've got to say Conor's the greatest 145-pounder of all time because he knocked out Aldo, who is clearly the greatest.
Starting point is 02:11:10 13 seconds, yeah. But in terms of who's got more victories, of course it's Aldo. Body of work would be Aldo. But the problem is, the ultimate question is, we're not doing MMA math here. You're having two guys actually fight each other. So if you said who's the greatest of all time? Well, it would have to be Aldo because he beat all these guys.
Starting point is 02:11:29 No, no, no, no, no. Because the two of them fought and Conor murked them. Correct. So you've got to give it to him. Otherwise, there's no other metric. There's no other metric other than a knockout. What happened when they went head to head? It's the most important deciding.
Starting point is 02:11:40 Body of work when they fought head to head. You can't be penalized for beating someone easily. I mean, like, you beat them too easily, so it doesn't count. Yeah. Oh you gotta really beat him down. But this is what validates Conor's thing is in the locker room they show him do the exact combo. Yeah. Like it wasn't like a freak like oh my god. They show him step back throw the exact combo and goes this is what's gonna happen. Yep. Yeah. And they also showed him do that front leg side kick to the leg. It's nuts. He created the distance.
Starting point is 02:12:07 He was hopping in and out. And he wanted to slide back and counter with that left hand. And he hit it perfect. He called it. He's the best ever. You have to say he's the best ever. Even if he never fights featherweight again. Why?
Starting point is 02:12:17 Because he KO'd the best ever. The reality is Aldo's the best ever. But Conor KO'd him. You couldn't say without the Aldo fight that Conor was the best ever, because you look at all the different people that both of them fought, you're like, wow, it's really close, it's really interesting. But Aldo has more fights. But then once they actually fight, that's it.
Starting point is 02:12:35 Which is all that matters, right? That's all that matters. That's not even MMA math. That's all that matters. It's not MMA math. You're right. It's a competition they fought. It is.
Starting point is 02:12:43 It's black and white. And people will fight against it. No, because Aldo was the champion for so many years. They fought. It is. It's black and white. And people will fight against it. No, because Aldo was the champion for so many years. You're 100% right. His body of work is much more impressive. And there's always going to be an asterisk next to Conor because there was just this one time he fought for the title at 145, KO'd Aldo. It was like, y'all be cool. Y'all be cool.
Starting point is 02:13:03 I'm going to go up here. Any others has the belt? Come get some. I'm all about collecting belts. Y'all be cool. Y'all be cool. I'm out of here. I'm going to go up here. Any others has the belt? Come get some. I'm all about collecting belts. It's really clear. They're tied. It's really clear. They're tied for the best guy.
Starting point is 02:13:11 That's what we got in this shirt. And then what's the tiebreaker? Oh, they're fight. They fought. What happened in the fight? You decide. Right. You know what?
Starting point is 02:13:19 But you know what's interesting, Eddie? It's really simple. But sometimes you look at top tens. You look at a guy who's number six, and then the guy who's number eight knocked him out in the last fight. You're like, what in the fuck is going on? They go off the body of work. That's crazy. I know.
Starting point is 02:13:32 And then people also say, oh, that was an upset. He got lucky. It says who? When a guy punches you in the face and wanted to punch you in the face and then punched you in the face, where's the luck? What are you doing? Are you rolling dice? He caught him. He caught him with the hand that he hits with the face. Where's the luck? What are you doing? Are you rolling dice? He caught him. He caught him with the hand that he hits with the knife.
Starting point is 02:13:46 To be in the argument of the best ever, like for Aldo to be in the argument and for McGregor and for anybody, Jon Jones, just to be in the goddamn argument. Yeah. Oh, man. Who's the best ever? You know what I mean? Is it Fedor or is it Anderson? Anderson's over.
Starting point is 02:14:01 Who is it? Is it Fedor? Those are the two arguments. That's the two arguments. I've always been in the Anderson camp, too. You don't think Jon Jones is in there? No, not yet. What?
Starting point is 02:14:08 I think he still could be. Because of his body of work. You're right. He could, but there's so many problems with that. So many problems with that. Off the field problems. There's the OSP problem, where he had a good fight, I think. I think he performed well against a really dangerous, slick guy.
Starting point is 02:14:22 But he didn't put on a show. Okay, then Anderson Silva has the Damian Maia fight, the Talis ladies fight, those horrible fights. Fedor had some boring-ass fights, too. But Anderson had those earlier, and then he started dominating people. And when you look at some of the crazy Anderson fights, like the Forrest Griffin
Starting point is 02:14:38 KO, when you look at Anderson, like motivated Anderson, when he's in shape, and the James Irvin when he went up to 205. James Irvin. I know it's true but when you see him as an assassin against Vitor Belfort. Vitor who is super dangerous. Vitor, TRT, Vitor.
Starting point is 02:14:53 But go through John's show gun. You know what I'm saying? That's not true. Wasn't TRT Vitor back then. No, Vitor wasn't on TRT and became on TRT after he fought Anderson. He looked different. When he fought Anderson he was like, he didn't look nearly as jacked. John beat Vitor Belfort. Yes. John beat TRT Vitor wasn't on TRT and became on TRT after he fought Anderson. He looked different. When he fought Anderson, he didn't look nearly as jacked. John beat Vitor Belfort. Yes.
Starting point is 02:15:08 John beat TRT Vitor. Was Vitor jacked? Jacked Vitor. What was Vitor? Was Vitor, when he was 19, is that still considered TRT Vitor? No, no, no. No, that's Roy Vitor. Yes.
Starting point is 02:15:18 That's Vitor. That's Winkstroll Vitor. Yeah, he was 240. That's everything. He was 240 with a size 9 shoe. I don't draw 50 a size 9 shoe. Size 9 shoe. Eddie and I met his trainer
Starting point is 02:15:29 way, way back in the day. We used to call him Garden Hoses. I remember him. What happened to that guy? At 35 years old. Joe and I were looking at him. Joe and I were looking at him at the airport. He's eating out of a can of tuna at the airport. He and I were watching him.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Joe goes like this. Joe's looking at him and joe goes he is the color of a plum he died it was crazy dude you never seen anybody that he was the color of a plum he was he was just a totally different color pressure it's supposed to be he was like in everyone's corner anderson silvers with a fanny pack and just called him garden hoses because we worked out with him once. And the dude had garden hoses for veins. I think that was his nickname. Everybody called him.
Starting point is 02:16:11 Yeah, I think that was his nickname. I think we might have invented it. Either you and I invented it. Shockingly. But yeah, he died. Yeah. Yeah, dude. But just too much gear. This is when Vitor was in the Randy Couture fight.
Starting point is 02:16:22 So this was those days when Vitor looked like a lion. Yes. He looked like a male human lion. Like his neck started right about here and just came straight down and he was just super jacked. Dude, when he fought Randy he was like 240. Yes.
Starting point is 02:16:38 He's fighting 185 now. And a tough 85. Just stop and think of that. That is insane. I mean that's insane. And you look at him at 85. I stop and think of that. That is insane. I mean, that's insane. And you look at an 85. I'm kind of bummed out. That's not TRT. No.
Starting point is 02:16:51 You remember the other fist fight? Rockhold is TRT. Do you remember there was another fist fight in the stands? Here's a trivia question for Joe Rogan. There was a fist fight in the stands after Vitor lost to Randy Couture. Do you remember who it was between? Was that the one between Tank Abbott? Nope. No. After Vitor lost to Randy Couture Do you remember who it was between? Was that the one between Tank Abbott?
Starting point is 02:17:08 Nope No Who was it? Nope Tank Abbott was always getting It was a fist fight between Ken Shamrock Vitor's mom And his girlfriend
Starting point is 02:17:18 Who's that dude? Is that Curtis? Yeah Yeah, there he is That's Mr. Hose? No Oh, is that him? That's the dude
Starting point is 02:17:24 Oh my god He looks every bit Look at that vein Across his shoulder Pull up his Go big on his images Just They're not all him
Starting point is 02:17:32 They're not all him But that's him Just go big Make it big Like close it Sorry Yeah Look at the size
Starting point is 02:17:37 Of his fucking veins Dude we'd be at the gym With him We'd be like How come we don't Look like that That doesn't even Look like a human that
Starting point is 02:17:46 dude was so jacked do you see what's going on in his biceps everything if you right there right with edit where his elbow is like what is that that's like a it's a keyboard it's like a steroid he took some stuff look at his fucking bicep is right up the steroids because they always say no one's died from steroids no your heart you can It can fuck with your lipid levels and everything. If you do it that much, God knows what he was taking. That motherfucker was on cow blood. Yeah, he was taking crazy shit. People take a lot of crazy stuff.
Starting point is 02:18:11 They also take insulin. And apparently that's really dangerous. That'll get you. There's a lot of different stuff that they take. Yeah, he took a lot of stuff. But all of it is effective if you want to get to that fucking giant size. You know who I'm trying to get on, man? I've got to contact him. We've been going back and forth. It's Dorian Yates. Ooh, that fucking giant size, you know, I'm trying to get on man. I got a contact him
Starting point is 02:18:25 We've been going back and forth as Dorian Yates. Oh, that'd be fun. Fuck. Yeah, man He's gonna be a chance can be about July or giant openly about everything. Yeah, he tells his dosages do says what he was doing What yeah, yeah, yeah Still doing it now. Well, he does he's on TRT now. He talks about that. Yeah, Phil Heath on his mr Olympia seven-time Mr. Olympia. And you can't bring up steroids? No, we don't, Humpy. Come on, son.
Starting point is 02:18:50 Dorian Yates brings it up himself. He wants to talk about it. He's like, this is crazy. Everybody should know what we're doing. And Arnold, to his credit, Arnold says the same thing. Arnold tells everybody about it, too. Yeah, they were all, I mean, obviously. There's no other way to achieve those sizes.
Starting point is 02:19:05 Arnold. Arnold. Yes. Terminator's on gear. Dude, there's no way to achieve those sizes if you're not taking something. He's kind of still doing something.
Starting point is 02:19:14 Hell yeah. Arnold. Hey, remember when you saw those pictures of him on the beach? No, no, no. He fixed that. He fixed it.
Starting point is 02:19:22 Oh, he fixed it. Now he's in shape now. Damn, he's going to be a Terminator. He's all dand up. You guys know he had heart surgery. Yes. Open heart surgery. That's when he looked disgusting on the beach.
Starting point is 02:19:32 That's what was going on. I mean, he had to lay low, let his body recover. Do you ever see the picture of him and Sylvester Stallone in the hospital? If you don't work out. But he's bulked back up. Let's see what it looks like. That can't be him now. That can't be him now. That can't be him now.
Starting point is 02:19:46 Oh, he's jacked now. Oh, my God. Holy shitballs. That looks like a little Photoshop baby right now. Dude, that can't be real. No, he's getting help. Is that real? Yeah, it's him.
Starting point is 02:19:55 Dude. He's jacked. Oh, my God. Him and Franco Colombo. That's real. Holy shit, he's back. Look at him. That's his son right there, right?
Starting point is 02:20:01 Well, you know he's doing- It's not that Mexican son. Yeah, it is. No, this is a recent picture, you think? You think this is recent? That's his son. That's his son right there, right? Well, you know what he's doing? It's not that Mexican son. Yeah, it is. No, this is a recent picture, you think? You think this is recent? That's his son. That's at Gold's Gym, son. What he's been saying is that he's been working out with Franco Colombo.
Starting point is 02:20:15 And him and Franco Colombo travel around together and they work out together. Dr. Franco Colombo, sir. Those dudes were the shit back in the day in the bodybuilder. And both of them are at it again. Well, both of them were on it again Well both of them were on Is there a picture of them together? Yes there's a bunch of pictures He could blow up
Starting point is 02:20:31 Franco Colombo would do two things One is he could do dips Oh shit that's from that movie Pump it on Look at those arms Look at his stomach Look at his stomach! Holy shit!
Starting point is 02:20:50 He used to do dips with two girls hanging off his legs and he can blow up one of those old fashioned water bladders you know those ones you fill up? Hot water bag. Yeah, he could fill up Did they get the boys back together? Do you know what two of us were going through? Franco Colombo could make it explode God damn.
Starting point is 02:21:05 He didn't blow it up. He blew it up and made it pop. Crazy. He did it in like 30 seconds. That's how strong he was. Just with his power, his lung power.
Starting point is 02:21:14 He was one of the most powerful bodybuilders and he was one of the smallest. Yes, power. He wasn't a big guy. That picture's super gay. Hey, fuck. Please.
Starting point is 02:21:22 My dick just got... What's that? Am I hot, man? I'm not even gay. What's that? I was like gonna jerk off on a guy I mean most of the time I'm not thinking about it hey you're saying they go to a gym they like lift and people watch them they just go to the gym together man oh that's cool like if you and me went to the gym together they go to the gym together that's cool old guys two old guys fucking went at it like if me you and me went to the gym together. Let's go the gym together That's cool guys tools guys fucking went at it. I can mean Callan went to the gym together. That's right We're getting nobody well, but Franco don't worry. We're on the way to those people. Yes, we are Franco's not on any testosterone
Starting point is 02:21:56 What are you talking about? Okay, what how many milligrams to bring up a Franco right now? He's got a question for you. Yeah. Hold on. We got two different conversations going on. Go ahead I'm sorry, but a gun to your head got a gun to your head Yeah, and you had a jerk off on anybody any man's face on the planet. Okay, who would it be? Donald Trump No That would feel so That would feel like
Starting point is 02:22:22 God this is not As long as As long as You had to look at their You had to connect Eyes Your eyes had to be locked So I have a few
Starting point is 02:22:31 So it wouldn't necessarily Be my favorite American But As long as he I like He's not American But thank you for the question Don't say that
Starting point is 02:22:38 Listen to me Look at me No Say no Hold on Absolutely not Nothing but respect for Heather Hector
Starting point is 02:22:44 Hector's the great. I love Hector Lombard. I would never. He's too much of a man. Don't even say. I say him because he finds him attractive. Who are you going to pick? Don't even bring it up.
Starting point is 02:22:51 No, no, no. Gun to your head. You don't want to. No, no, no. Don't do it. No, no, no. I would never splooge on a guy that I respect to the level I would respect a lot of fighters. Okay.
Starting point is 02:23:00 Who does Jude Law agree to ever do? That's made great movies. I like Jude Law. Me too. I like him too. I like him. Someone's going to bust does Jude Law agree? As long as he ever do. Let's make great movies. I like Jude Law. Me too. I like him too. I like him. Someone's going to bust on Jude Law. I know where you went with that.
Starting point is 02:23:10 He's a talented guy. Now, hold on. Johnny Depp. You want to bust on Johnny Depp? He hit it. No, no. You hit it. Johnny Depp.
Starting point is 02:23:17 Hold on, motherfucker. He's got to hold his hair up with one hand and look at me in the eye. And I have to go like this. I got to go, hey, listen, man. You fucking, I spent $100 for every $100 on my movie.
Starting point is 02:23:30 You give me $2 back. I want my money back. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Get it. We gotta go back to him in that movie with Tom Cruise. Okay, I do.
Starting point is 02:23:38 What was the 50s movie? What was the 50s movie? What was it called? Outsiders. Outsiders. You gotta go back to him in the Outsiders. Then you jerk off on John.
Starting point is 02:23:45 I don't want to get too crazy. I'm 50. 21 Jump Street. No, you can't. Can't be a hate jerk. Willie Wallace can't be a hate jerk. It's not a hate jerk, but listen. Because I'm 50, I don't have my process a little bit.
Starting point is 02:23:54 I'm not shooting heavy. So you got to get direct down there because it's just going to go. You got a baby bird in there. It's a little trip. Here's the problem with Tom Cruise. If you came on his face and you caught those teeth, you'd feel bad. Oh, I sure would. Right?
Starting point is 02:24:08 The snaggle teeth. Look at him. Oh, no. If you saw your own cum drip out of his teeth. Is that real? No, it's photoshopped. That's what he used to look like. Photoshopped teeth.
Starting point is 02:24:15 No, Brian. He used to have terrible teeth. Damn it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Photoshopped. No wonder he's so tall. I don't think it's photoshopped.
Starting point is 02:24:22 I don't think it's a Texas chainsaw. I think they actually added a fake tooth. Well, that's him after braces. He had braces when he was like 40. That'd be braces and veneers. Yeah, because his teeth were yellow. His teeth were also off to one side. I want to know the story of how he got in.
Starting point is 02:24:38 Is there a video out there? Scientology? No, no, but how did he get in? Like, what happened? That's a good question. I think somebody recruited him from a movie. He was good, though. How did he get in? What happened? That's a good question. I think somebody recruited him from a movie. He was good, though. He was already in movies?
Starting point is 02:24:49 He was in Taps? Yeah. Oh, my God. I bring it up in Taps. It's really good. I want to know the guy who made that happen. Dude, that Leah Remney? That Leah Remney?
Starting point is 02:24:58 Who got him in? She's so relentless on Scientology. There's like season four. I got it. Leah Remney. It's bad. I got it. Leah Remini, she did my podcast. I know. She talked about it.
Starting point is 02:25:07 You know, when I first met her, she was deep in it. She was with Kevin James. She was on King and Queens. And that's when I first met her. And he was like, she's a Scientologist.
Starting point is 02:25:14 I was like, whoa. She's really nice. She's very cool. I'm like, whoa. She's a cutie too. A mind control experiment.
Starting point is 02:25:21 That's all that is. Well, somebody figured out how to control people a long time ago. Until the internet came out. It's called come up with a set of rules
Starting point is 02:25:27 and say that this is like someone's looking out for this set of rules. Whether it's God or it's Buddha or it's Odin. Creative mythology. All you have to do
Starting point is 02:25:35 is do that and people follow it. It's weird. The crazy thing is the stuff that it's nothing but reports of child abuse. It's just that you have kids. There's a lot of child abuse in cults. It's just-
Starting point is 02:25:45 There's a lot of child abuse in cults. It's horrible. Yeah, it's one of the big problems with cults. You know, one of Joey Diaz's ex-girlfriends was in a cult when she was a kid, and she said that the guy who was the head of the cult molested everybody. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 02:25:57 Molested all the girls. Yeah. Molested- He wanted to fuck girls. Fucked everybody's wife. Yeah, it's all just- That's who starts cults. He just fucks all the girls.
Starting point is 02:26:03 Yeah, well, it's all- It's what happens. Most of these cults, that's what happens. Polygamy and- Yeah, but the thing is... That's who starts cults. Yeah, well, it's all... It's what happens. Most of these cults, that's what happens. Polygamy and... Yeah, the thing is, that's not the crazy thing. David Koresh? That's not the crazy thing. David Koresh, they shut that motherfucker shit down.
Starting point is 02:26:13 We are allowing this to happen. It's like we want it to happen. It's like it's a CIA MKUltra experiment. Wait, what do you mean? Wait, wait, wait. We got to that point in the show, ladies and gentlemen, where I realized... I'll give it a more wide....Syntology to CIA. Look at the show. We got to that point in the show, ladies and gentlemen, where I realized. I'll give it one more one. I'm like, oh, look at the time.
Starting point is 02:26:30 Eddie. Hey, give him one more one. Tell us how the show came about, Eddie. Let me feed the beast. I love him. I don't know anything. Riders on the storm. I don't know shit.
Starting point is 02:26:39 I don't know anything. You think like the government supports it, though? When you look into it. You got to look into it. Look into it. I've been looking into it. Hey, think about this. Think about how crazy that religion is.
Starting point is 02:26:52 Yeah. Think about that. Which one? And then think about how it's allowed to survive and thrive. You're saying like Scientology? Scientology? Even better. I'll do you one better.
Starting point is 02:27:00 Scientology doesn't have to pay taxes. Dude. They figured out a way how to not pay. You know what they did? How is that? I'll tell you. Hold on. I'll tell you. How is that? How is that? I'll tell you. Hold on. I'll tell you.
Starting point is 02:27:06 I'll tell you the actual fact. I'll tell you the actual fact. They organized a massive lawsuit campaign against the IRS. And they said that if you can say that all these different religions, whether it's Catholicism or Mormonism, Mormonism has very questionable backgrounds. Mormonism was started by Joseph Smith, who was a known con man. I mean, Mormonism is- questionable backgrounds Mormonism was started by Joseph Smith who was a known con man I mean Mormonism he found it when he was 14
Starting point is 02:27:30 he said he found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus and only he could read them because he had a magic seer stone like when you look at the actual you're talking about a guy who we know the guy right so Scientology was like well so fucking what if you can take that if you take Mormonism,
Starting point is 02:27:45 why can't we get tax-exempt status? And they said, no, fuck you, you're not a real religion. And they're like, bullshit. If anything is a religion, we're a religion. And in that sense, I support them. I think all religions should have to pay taxes. But I think that if anybody gets a free ride, Scientology should get a free ride too.
Starting point is 02:28:02 If you're going to have this goofy loophole there, then they qualify just as much as the Mormons or Catholics. If Morm should get a free ride. If you're going to have this goofy loophole there, then they qualify just as much as the Mormons or Catholics. If Mormons get a pass... So that's what happened, Eddie. It was massive lawsuits. And this is all... You could find it. I saw the HBO documentary. They filed a shitload of lawsuits
Starting point is 02:28:17 and the IRS was fucked. You're talking about going clear? It's amazing. It's a great book. The book's even better. Because it goes into the history. It's amazing. Good book. It's amazing. It's a great book. The book's even better because it goes into the history of the book. It's being allowed to happen. Everything's allowed to happen. The thing is, no one can pay attention to everything.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Everything's allowed to happen all the time. And then once we find out that something's happening, it's like, okay, now what? You can't shut down a religion. Well, you can't shut down anybody's freedom of speech. If you have an ideology, your freedom of expression, your ability to gather and talk. I don't know shit. All I know is if I had a country
Starting point is 02:28:52 to run, I would start if I was running a country, I would start cults and have mind control experiments. I would too, but I wouldn't have time in between negotiating oil deals and trying to figure out whether or not we should stay in NATO and climate control. I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 02:29:09 In a way, you're right. In my world. In a way, you're right, but no one has the time to do everything. There's not enough time. To micromanage the entire world. They're too busy. That's right.
Starting point is 02:29:19 It's just there's only so much shit. You can let people take care of themselves. People got lives. I get it. You can let people take care of themselves. People got lives. I get it. You can let people take care of themselves. Illuminati got keys. They got keys. Illuminati got keys.
Starting point is 02:29:33 I get it. It's not enough time for mind control experiments. There's too much shit going on. Well, they definitely have done some mind control experiments, too. That's also part of the problem. If I ran a country, I'm saying if I ran a country in this other dimension, I'm not saying they're doing it. I'm not saying if I did it.
Starting point is 02:29:50 A comic book guy writes comic books. I would definitely do that. Are you kidding? Hold on. I got a question for Eddie. You're going to start a religion. You're going to start a religion. You're going to start a religion.
Starting point is 02:30:02 You're going to bullshit them this way, and we're going to just watch you. Who's this mastermind? And where's his cut? I want to know from you, and you better tell me. My country would survive for at least 500 years. You know it.
Starting point is 02:30:11 Hold on. You know it. I have a question. Brian. You better tell me this, because I know you know the fucking answer, bro. As a dictator?
Starting point is 02:30:16 Hold on. I want you to answer this. As a tactical dictator? I think you got your finger on the pulse. I want to know right now, on this podcast, who is running this country? I have no idea. Come on, bro. I don't know. now on this podcast, who is running this country? I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:30:27 Come on, bro. I don't know. Give me a little idea because I know you've got a fucking idea. I don't know. Bro, you're playing dumb right now. I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess. Satan.
Starting point is 02:30:35 Based on nothing but circumstantial evidence. I'm going to guess. Hold on. People that control the banks. I don't know. Who would they be? Rothschilds. I don't know. people that control the banks. I don't know. Who would they be? Rothschilds? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:30:49 That's what I hear. I could be wrong. Rothschilds could be a complete fabrication. I don't know. We looked up on the internet the other day and the Rothschilds, like the family. Here's what's hilarious. The internet? It's $1 billion to like $70 trillion.
Starting point is 02:31:03 $700 trillion? $700 billion, yeah. $700 billion or trillion? It was billion. billion, yeah. 700 billion or trillion? It was billion. What's this number? What is it? The amount of money they own, it's either 1 billion or...
Starting point is 02:31:12 Are they real? The Rothschilds real? Oh, 100%. That's real. Oh, 100%. There's a family that owns all the banks. No, there is a family that has a considerable amount of money
Starting point is 02:31:19 that they pass down from generation to generation and these younger generations have figured out how to not fuck up. That's the conspiracy theory that they run the central bank. Is that real? We don't know. How much is it? We don't know. generation to generation and these younger generations have figured out how to not fuck it up. How much is it, Joe? Is that real? We don't know. I don't know if it is.
Starting point is 02:31:30 That's what they say. They say between $1 billion and $700 billion. Snoop says $500 trillion. But do they even exist? Do the Rothschilds even exist? That could be a conspiracy. Can I say one thing? The Rothschilds are hoax.
Starting point is 02:31:42 One thing about the Rothschilds, when you talk about the Rothschilds and these different big families, there's one thing inschilds are a hoax. Hey, Eddie, one thing about the Rothschilds, when you talk about the Rothschilds and these different big families, there's one thing in common. It's a hoax. Nope. Follow me on this. They're white. If you hear, nope, they're all Jewish.
Starting point is 02:31:52 And by the way, if you look at their roots, if you look at the roots of these, a lot of these rumors and conspiracies, they start in the neo-Nazi camps and the ultra-right wing camps and a lot of the anti-Semitic anti-you know that goes way back that goes way back into Europe that goes way back with the Nazis so just be careful where these things come from
Starting point is 02:32:15 you'll find that their roots I don't know shit I'm on YouTube their roots sometimes start in really awful places you should read a book every now and then. Hey, listen. I got some books for you. Lawrence Wright, the guy he's had.
Starting point is 02:32:28 I don't know what to believe. Going Clear and The Looming Tower, two very good books. I don't know what to believe. I don't know. The Plant Paradox, which I'm reading now about food. Very interesting. Unless it benefits me to believe something, unless I make money from it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:39 Like if I say, dude, you're a fucking idiot. You're a fucking idiot. You know, like what if I believe this? Dude, you could be fucking, your kids could be, go to college for free if you just believe this. If you just sign off and say you believe it. Mike, that's not what's going to happen. Is it illegal if I don't believe it? Will I get thrown in jail?
Starting point is 02:32:59 No, then I don't want to believe shit. If it doesn't hurt me, it shouldn't be such a big deal. I don't know what to believe, man. I don't know if the Rothschilds are real. I don't know if reptilians are real. I don't know if Satanism is real. I don't know shit. One thing I'd say is learning, getting closer to the truth
Starting point is 02:33:21 can be achieved by looking at all the independent lines of inquiry, all the independent lines that come to one consensus. Are you sitting here trying to tell me how to come to the truth can be achieved by looking at all the independent lines of inquiry. Are you sitting here trying to tell me how to come to the truth, Brian Callen? Is that what you're trying to tell me exactly how to come to the truth? No, no, I'm just saying generally. I'm speaking in general because I would never tell you to get closer. Brother, come on. Come on, man. I'm talking in general.
Starting point is 02:33:39 Let me say this because I think this is really important. One of the problems that I've had, me personally, I've had with any idea is that once I have an original idea or once I start looking at something a certain way, I become married to it. Yes. And I've had real problems with that.
Starting point is 02:33:52 All of us have. It's confirmation bias. I understand, but I'm just saying I've had real problems with that. Like personally, where I had to look at what I believed and go,
Starting point is 02:33:59 well, why do I believe that? And why do I think? And there's been a bunch of times, whether it's through Bigfoot or UFOs or... I mean, I've looked at the JFK assassination a hundred different fucking times. There's been times when I said, well, maybe Oswald got lucky. I mean, people do get lucky. I've shot...
Starting point is 02:34:15 The first animal I ever shot, I shot at 200 yards and I probably shouldn't have hit it and it dropped. I could have fucked that up. You know, you can, if you're aiming at at something pull the trigger and hit the president in the back of the head it is possible I don't think it did it seems to me more like some other shit was going on if you look at all the different pieces of evidence but I don't fucking know
Starting point is 02:34:34 man and the problem with saying this happened and that happened which I used to do all the time is that you don't fucking know you don't know you don't know and until you do know when you say you know. You don't know. And until you do know, when you say you know and you might be wrong, it becomes an ego thing.
Starting point is 02:34:49 So you can speculate? Yes. You can get closer to the truth. You can approximate. So if you hear scientists, they always say, it's so fascinating, scientists start always with doubt.
Starting point is 02:34:58 And what they do is they always say, if you really corner scientists, they'll say, well, this is the most likely. Based on the data I've looked at, or the literature I've read carefully, this is the most likely uh based on the data i've looked at our literature i've read carefully this is the most likely uh possibility it's really interesting to hear how they talk that way because like with global warming or anything have you heard kraus uh yes yeah listen i've had him on my podcast i listened to you both the podcast you had with him
Starting point is 02:35:21 and tried to read some of his book it was tough but yes his book is rough dude when he started to have a back gauge symmetry when he was going into gauge symmetry and i fucked up by opening up my podcast asking him to explain gauge symmetry i know i know it's insane you know what i got from that physical physics i got this is what i got a hole in your head i got that there's a web there's an invisible web and we come into contact with it we we become mass but we have to understand as skeptical as we are of this shit these are the same motherfuckers that put together the large hadron collider yes they are spinning atoms just slightly under the speed of light slamming them into each other and recreating the very instances right after the big bang they're doing that shit right now there's a team of scientists from a hundred different countries. Thousands. Thousands.
Starting point is 02:36:05 I feel like you can find out how many there is. You guys all agree that Nikola Tesla was a great scientist? Oh, he was a genius. For sure. He was a genius,
Starting point is 02:36:12 but you gotta remember that Nikola Tesla lived in a world where he was so far ahead of the curve and there's very few people that were able to compete with him or even understand
Starting point is 02:36:21 what he was doing. Okay, do you know that if you go to YouTube and you punch in Nikola Tesla hoax fraud, nothing comes up? That's amazing. Makes sense. But that's also a guy who lived in the 1920s.
Starting point is 02:36:32 There's not anybody on the planet trying to say all that shit was bullshit. There's no... You go to YouTube, punch a Nikola Tesla hoax fraud, not one fucking video. There's videos that come up that's saying something else was a hoax. Nikola Tesla proves it. Or Nikola Tesla proves hoax.
Starting point is 02:36:54 But not one video of anybody ever saying Nikola Tesla was a hoax. I feel like I got like that. But this is just a fact. You can take it or leave it. Put in Albert Einstein hoax fraud. Endless videos. Oh, Albert was a freak. Endless videos.
Starting point is 02:37:15 Endless. They're like, wait a minute. Isn't Albert, wasn't Albert Einstein Time Magazine's man of the century? How is that even possible? I thought he was the smartest man in the world. Let me just help you here. You're getting very dramatic. So let me stop for a second.
Starting point is 02:37:28 If you put in Holocaust hoax, you'll get an equal number. I'm not talking about that. But you know that's true. If you put in Sandy Hook hoax, you're getting an equal number. You get a tremendous number of people that think that a lot of very... You're right. You're right. It's amazing.
Starting point is 02:37:45 Why not him? How about people that don't think that a lot of very- But not Nikola Tesla. You're right. Not Nikola Tesla. You're right. It's amazing. Well, also- Why not him? How about people that don't think that Richard Pryor was a genius? Who the fuck? Did you ever say Richard Pryor hoax? Have you ever met a comic once that doesn't think Richard Pryor is one of the greatest of all time? They don't exist.
Starting point is 02:37:55 But are there videos of people trying to prove that he wasn't the greatest? No. But I mean, look, I believe that- That he was a hoax? No. There's nothing on Nikola Tesla. I don't think that Einstein was a hoax, dude. Correlation is not the same as causation, though, Eddie.
Starting point is 02:38:08 Shit. I don't know nothing. All I know is there's nothing on Nikola Tesla. Yeah. No hoaxes. But it doesn't mean anything. But there's thousands of Albert Einstein. You look into his life, like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:38:21 But is there anyone besides Nikola Tesla that doesn't have that? Is he the only guy, Eddie? Well, Thomas Edison was always accused of stealing the ideas of Nikola Tesla. In fact, Thomas Edison electrocuted an elephant in the middle of, like, what was it? The World Science Fair? Thomas Edison did? Yes, he did. Oh, Thomas Edison.
Starting point is 02:38:38 I thought you said Thomas Jefferson. No, Thomas Edison electrocuted a fucking elephant. Because he wanted to prove that alternating and direct current, like ACDC, which is Tesla's idea. There's video of an elephant being electrocuted, not by Thomas Edison. No, but Thomas Edison did it. The reason why he did it is to prove,
Starting point is 02:38:57 or to try to like, it was propaganda against Tesla's ideas, which are more advanced. He wanted a movable, like he wanted there to be alternating currents. Tesla and Einstein were alive and kicking at the same time. Tesla...
Starting point is 02:39:14 There's quotes. The quotes could be bullshit. But there's quotes of the Tesla's crushing Einstein, clowning him in public. He thought Einstein was a fraud. That could be bullshit. But there are. That could be bullshit. But there are quotes that can be bullshit of Tesla. They keep popping up.
Starting point is 02:39:30 Tesla breaking. No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. There's quotes, Tesla quotes, saying the theory of relativity is basically a joke. There's Tesla quotes of that. No, no, but Eddie, hold on. No, no.
Starting point is 02:39:42 What I'm saying is it could be bullshit, but it keeps coming up. Well, no, no, we know that the theory of relativity is used, right? So that we know that that's not so much a theory anymore. But here's what I think that he's addressing. So Einstein, from what I have read, is Einstein was a great mind, but he was coming up at a time where he got most of the credit. He became a famous scientist when there were a lot of scientists working on very similar ideas and contributing
Starting point is 02:40:10 to the larger debate about quantum physics. There was also a big debate about their methods, whereas Tesla was a big fan of experiments. Einstein was a big fan of experiments. Einstein was a big fan of equations. And one of the big
Starting point is 02:40:27 criticisms... One of the big quotes. What is it saying? What are you pulling up? What is this? Tesla's overrated, debunking the cult of Tesla. Tesla's a popular figure in conspiracy culture. What is it saying? What is he saying? It's not even just a conspiracy thing.
Starting point is 02:40:43 What is he saying? He said right here he says Tesla was a popular figure today, but he's also a self-publicist, and this is stuff he didn't invent. He did not invent alternate and current? Yeah. He just was one of many people working on it? Okay, but he's probably one of the forefront minds, right? Being a showman helped popularize the Jews.
Starting point is 02:41:03 He's so good at that, eventually he had to – I don't know if he's right or not. Dude, he's shitting on Tesla. This is the only guy ever. Eddie said there's no one saying anything against him, but there is. But Mick West is always against. He's a 100% official story. He's not against,
Starting point is 02:41:17 he doesn't believe in that one conspiracy. No, you're right, 100%. And that's the only criticism I had about that guy. Like when we talked about the Gulf of Tonkin, he doesn't want to even admit that the Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag. Tower 7's obvious. Also, Operation Northwest, he was trying to downplay. I'm like, look, man, whether or not you know what happened in any other place,
Starting point is 02:41:34 you know the Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote down a memo saying the plan was to have Guantanamo Bay attacked by Cuban friendlies that were going to give them guns, give them bombs, have them attack American civilians. What did he say? He was like, well, it never was implemented. I was like, it doesn't matter. They signed it.
Starting point is 02:41:52 Kennedy had a veto. Yes, but Kennedy vetoed it. That's why those checks and balances are in place. No, no, no. The mindset behind the type of person that would want to blow up Americans and blame it on the Cubans so we could justify a war with Cuba.
Starting point is 02:42:04 The founding fathers knew that there would always be people within the government that would do anything they could and so that's where the checks and balances are. Right, but they don't always go through perfectly. That's, I mean, if Nixon was Reagan or, I mean, if it was rather if Kennedy rather was Reagan or Kennedy was Nixon, he might very well have let that slide. Who knows? I mean, a different person in a different circumstance with a different view of the world could have let the Joint Chiefs of Staff pull that through. So that shows you the mindset. So the mindset's undeniable that people absolutely do conspire.
Starting point is 02:42:38 So when you're a guy who never believes in conspiracies, you do just as much damage as a guy who always believes in conspiracies. So Alexander Hamilton said that it's not just a king you have to worry about. It's your actual government that's been elected. So just because your parliament, he was using parliament as an example, just because parliament was voted in doesn't mean that small group of people will not get power hungry and drunk. So therefore, you've got to have all these checks and balances. You've got to have courts. You've got all kinds of things.
Starting point is 02:43:06 And you have to have a Senate and a House of Representatives. This is where these ideas came from. That's what the genius of those fucking guys were. Well, it's the only thing right now that's keeping Trump from instituting his travel ban. It's incredible. But even with those checks and balances, he's still able to cut back the EPA budgets. Democracy at work.
Starting point is 02:43:22 Draw us from the Paris Climate Agreement. So there's a lot of weird shit that goes on that they didn't anticipate. But what they did anticipate, they did put enough checks and balances that it's keeping from one person from just completely dominating the thing with their ideology. They came from monarchies, those guys.
Starting point is 02:43:37 They came from monarchies. They knew that no matter who you are as a human being, whether you're democratically elected or you're divinely elected like the king was in Europe, you are going to take advantage of your power. You're gonna get drunk with power. It's very human. And to want to have control over other people and to do for them what what they don't know is best for themselves. Look at the world, man. Look at whether it's Libya or look at North Korea or look at it. People want to dominate the people around them.
Starting point is 02:44:03 They've been doing it since the beginning of time. If you don't think they're doing it right now, you're fucking crazy. Right. The question is, what is the absolute objective thing that's happening here? Like the objective view of what's happening here. That's where it gets real tricky for all of us. Whenever we say we know that something's happening, there's no way you can know. And I know that there's no way you can know.
Starting point is 02:44:23 So now we have a really tainted conversation because we're not looking at this whole thing honestly. Whether it's aliens or life after death or anything, I need to absolutely fucking know that you're being honest. And as soon as I don't think you are or if I think you're trying to gain power, as soon as you see a politician give some bullshit fucking speech where you know that they're giving this canned cadence, this nonsense rhetoric, and you know as soon as they get in there, they're going to give in to the fucking special interest groups. It's happened with Trump. It happened with Bush.
Starting point is 02:44:56 It happens with everybody. It happened with Obama. That's why a free press, that's why a free press from all different angles is so important. Uncensored press. And that's why it's called the fourth estate, man. That keeps fucking power in check. Transparency. It does.
Starting point is 02:45:09 And that's the other thing. The other problem is that when government grows, which it always has a tendency to do, what does government do? It taxes and passes laws. Two very coercive measures. You keep growing government. Here's what happens. It doesn't get more powerful.
Starting point is 02:45:21 It gets more powerful. But also more people are dependent on it. More people are feeding from the public trough and then it becomes really hard to get rid of it. It's really hard to get rid of a government program once it starts because a cottage industry grows up around it to take advantage. Yeah. I mean, that's the big problem they have right now with prisons.
Starting point is 02:45:40 There's so many fucking prisons and then they start prison guard unions start passing laws. They start lobbying to get laws passed to keep marijuana illegal, to make sure their prisons are filled. Because these prisons become generators of money. That's right. They don't become places where people are enslaved. Dude, it's so fucked up. So your politician's not going to say anything that's going to not grow that industry. That's too much pressure.
Starting point is 02:46:05 As a politician, you spend 40% of your time raising money from strangers for your next election. What about that conspiracy theory about hip-hop and rap, gangster rap, being created to promote crime?
Starting point is 02:46:22 That came from the South Bronx. It's an actual conspiracy theory. It came from artists it's an actual conspiracy theory you know what the real fear is that's why people alone in their long beach apartments
Starting point is 02:46:31 trying to figure out what I wrote are there private prisons people profiting off prisons right if they have anything to do
Starting point is 02:46:37 with if they have any connection to the entertainment world here's the problem with that timeline the private prisons
Starting point is 02:46:44 weren't really that popular back then. The private prisons were popular. The rap music really came up. The original rap music wasn't even really gangster. Gangster rap. It was gangster rap specifically. In the 90s.
Starting point is 02:46:55 In the way. We're talking like 80s, 80s, 90s. No, it came before that. It came from when the Bronx was on fire. No, don't push me because I'm close to the edge. No, specifically gangster rap. The conspiracy theory. They took close to the edge. No, no, no. Specifically gangster rap, though. Right. They came out of Compton, Gunnings, and yeah. The conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 02:47:07 They took it to the next level. And the gangster rap from Compton and all that shit. But it came from New York, man. It came from when the Bronx was a fire. Well, that's where rap came from. That's where rap came from. Gangster rap, though, came from Compton. Yeah, rap came from New York.
Starting point is 02:47:18 The whole story with the Sugar Hill Gang and I. It's pretty undeniable that Ice-T and N.W.A. and Ice Cube. That's gangster rap. Yeah, that's gangster rap. Yeah, that's gangsta rap. Think about that album. The game. N.W.A. Niggas for Life.
Starting point is 02:47:30 It's more new, but yeah. Do you guys remember that album, Niggas for Life? That's what it was called. What did you say? N.W.A. N.W.A. You're a Mexican past. You can say it.
Starting point is 02:47:39 You can say it. No, you can't. They killed hookers. They had little skits in between the songs. And they had a song about gang raping a 14-year-old in a drive-in. That's what, yeah. They had a song about that. She swallowed it.
Starting point is 02:47:55 It's called She Swallowed It. Of those 90. Damn. They had some songs. We fucking evolved. How did they get away with that? Because we hadn't evolved. We didn't know what it meant.
Starting point is 02:48:03 Dude, Straight Outta Compton had Kill the Police. You remember that? Yeah, that's right. Fuck the police. Wasn't that Public Enemy? No, that's NWA. Public Enemy had some hard songs. Dude, they got away with a lot of shit.
Starting point is 02:48:16 God, man. Fuck the police. That's the worst thing you could say in a song. They got arrested for it at a concert. Saying, fuck the police stormed the stage. But you're jumping. When you talk about the gangster rap in LA.A., you're kind of jumping. You're not.
Starting point is 02:48:28 Gangster rap started in Compton, California by N.W.A. Who are the gangster rappers in New York? It wasn't gangster rap. It was just hard rap. It was hip hop. It was hip hop. And then there's hip hop and then there's gangster rap. It's N.W.A.
Starting point is 02:48:40 In other words, I'm shooting you all that stuff. One more time. I'm going to freak out. Gangster L.A. Compton. I don't know, man. No, you don't, but you pretend you do. I'm out of my lane. No, I'm asking you out there. One more time. I'm going to freak out. Gangsta, L.A., Compton. I don't know, man. No, you don't, but you pretend you do. No, I'm asking. It started in Compton.
Starting point is 02:48:49 We're not talking about opera. 88. We're not talking about Pavarotti. Pavarotti. We're talking about Pavarotti. Have you ever had a song called Fuck the Police? Yes. He's not.
Starting point is 02:48:59 He died. Pavarotti died. Yeah. He was greatness. I saw him sing in person. Really? Live? Yes, I did. And he sang Nessun Dorma, which
Starting point is 02:49:07 you should really listen to it. Nessun Dorma, no one sleeps. Listen, please. No one sang that song for eight years at the Met because they couldn't hit that fucking note. And that dude would hit it. He would hit it and... I got two things to say. Nessun Dorma and the Plant Paradox, you motherfuckers.
Starting point is 02:49:23 And the greatest restaurant in the world Via Veneto down in fucking Venice. If you don't go there you're fucking lost. Brad's been plugging people nonstop on our show and this show.
Starting point is 02:49:31 It's so weird. There's certain things I get obsessed with and that's it. That's one restaurant I love. You know what it is bro? You're fucking selling out
Starting point is 02:49:39 in Australia. He's never been to Australia. He's starting to feel insecure. So he gets shout outs to restaurants. Hey! You're making me feel, you're triggering me, dude. I'm trying. Don't trigger me.
Starting point is 02:49:48 Shoutout to Outback in Calabasas. Fuck you, man! Shoutout to Max Holloway running Hawaii with an iron fist. For reals. Shoutout to Max Holloway. Let's bring this bitch home. How about this, guys? Hey, let me give this to the people watching. How many people? 48,000? You've heard this. There's a couple of people listening.
Starting point is 02:50:04 Probably less now. How many couple of people listening probably less now how many we got now probably less now with the surprise talk now the government as soon as we hit government talk we drop about 10 sorry guys i brought it to a halt fox news kills no i get why you would read it but Joe doesn't have that so why would you tell him about it
Starting point is 02:50:29 I was just he just shut it he just shut it psoriasis people who have psoriasis are listening I want to help them you guys don't even
Starting point is 02:50:36 remotely commiserate like bitch I ain't got that problem what the fuck save that for someone man god damn it. I want to say this.
Starting point is 02:50:48 We're going to wrap this up, but I want to say this. Sometimes we have these podcasts and shit gets crazy and we get heated and we start smoking pot and we're drinking. And there's like a wrong impression that some people get that we don't love each other. What? We don't have the best time you know no matter what we agree or disagree on you know i think it's uh it's important it's just like family man i've i've had a lot of arguments with my brother and my cousins and stuff and it's like you know you are mad and you you are going back and forth like fuck that what do you said that and you said this but when it when it's all said and done, man, it's all love.
Starting point is 02:51:26 And I'll say something. You know, I think it's good. Cause I respect your opinion. I respect your opinion. No, Jamie, I got quite,
Starting point is 02:51:34 no, all you guys. I respect everyone in this room's opinion. And I think it's very important, even if you don't agree with someone's opinion to be confronted by it. Because I think if everybody just look, we've all been around that one person or many people, like especially like old time celebrities, celebrities that are famous in like the 70s and the 80s and shit when there
Starting point is 02:51:52 was no internet. And then they just never felt this need to check themselves. Sure. You know, they were, they were never informed. And I think that one of the best things about having a group of friends like you guys and like all of our comedian friends, and i think all of our jujitsu friends too and i think that's one of the things that kind of ties it all together you get a different a different group of humans yeah who who've experienced a lot of weird shit a different group of and you have a different point of view
Starting point is 02:52:20 than me on a lot of shit whether it's mma whether it's um i mean there's always we always we you and i have had spirited discussions about shit that we agreed or disagreed on the entire time we've been friends but you can do that yeah and still be cool to each other yeah i think that's what's really important i think also the great thing about friendships after you get to be my age anyway and you spend a lot of time with people is that this is getting very i want some violin music but this is serious you're coming up you're coming up no here's what i want to say hey man we're learning how to be friends yeah no it gets it gets to a point with friendship you know where and i was thinking about this with you like you could do pretty much. You're never not going to be my friend
Starting point is 02:53:06 no matter what. The only thing that would maybe question is if you hurt a child, God forbid, or if you were torturing animals in your basement, then I'd be like, oh, fuck you, you're a fucking bad guy. But you know what I mean? I would 100% help you bury somebody. Exactly. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 02:53:22 I'll take a risk. I'll take a risk. There's only, I mean, there's a fucking small handful of take a risk. I'll take a risk. I'll take a risk. There's only, I mean, there's a fucking small handful of people that I would call if I murdered somebody. They're in this room. Yeah. It would be a burner phone, though. You call me first.
Starting point is 02:53:33 Yeah, don't fucking. You call the loyal dog first, because I do it. Listen, we're all good. He'd fucking, he'd get scared and go, I have a tummy ache. Yeah, don't call me. I got a tummy ache. My Malabon's only six months old. I can't leave the house.
Starting point is 02:53:45 I can't get to the house and choose the electrical cords. My dog's afraid. You got a lot of living to do, bro. Who's the first guy you call? Your dog right here. Last time we did one of these podcasts, we got 10 million downloads. What? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:53:58 Is that a lot? The last time. Yeah, it's probably the biggest thing other than the Alex Jones episode. Alex Jones still number one? Alex Jones number one. And the Alex Jones episode is one of the best pieces of evidence that there's some potential opening for some sort of a conspiracy to keep some people down. Because the Alex Jones episode, not only did it get more downloads than any podcast we've ever done ever, but it it got more by, like, what, 4 million? The deep state couldn't keep him quiet.
Starting point is 02:54:26 4 million? 5 million? The deep state couldn't fucking silence him. It's up to 15 million. But no, here's what they did do. And I don't think that they did... Look, it could be a catastrophic coincidence. But during the time when the Alex Jones episode went running through the charts of our downloads.
Starting point is 02:54:46 What we get. If I have a number, like this is my number one, this is my number two. The Alex Jones is five million downloads ahead of everything. It's clouded on them. Now here's the crazy thing. iTunes ratings went down. And I don't think they went down on purpose. I don't think they went down on purpose.
Starting point is 02:55:00 But they coincidentally. And he just cocked his ear. But they coincidentally. I don't know shit. This on purpose. All right. Look at Eddie. Eddie just cocked his ear. But they coincidentally- I don't know shit. This is what's undeniable. They coincidentally went down the very time that the Alex Jones podcast was rampaging through the charts. Fucking deep state. Now, my podcast oftentimes reached number one on the iTunes charts in terms of the podcast
Starting point is 02:55:19 episodes. Sure. Oftentimes. It says overall. If it's Lawrence Krauss or Sam Harris or maybe even this. God bless you. of oftentimes. If it's Lawrence Krauss or Sam Harris or maybe even this. God bless you. So when that does happen, I got to say, well, if a podcast got five million downloads more than any podcast I've ever done ever, for sure, that one's going to be number one.
Starting point is 02:55:37 iTunes said not up in here. Not only was it not number one, but what's going on here? What do you got here? Maybe iTunes is being gangster like that and being obvious about it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You better shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 02:55:49 What, Jamie? Currently number three and four overall. Okay. We are. The episodes. The Alex Jones podcast never got past number 20 or something crazy. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:58 Not only that, but the ones after it and the ones before it, they got way less downloads. We're all ranked higher. All ranked higher. Do you think it's because, because I listened to that, and you guys got so fucking crazy toward the end. Interdimensional child molesters. Oh, you guys got,
Starting point is 02:56:12 you all got completely nuts. I had, I had turned you guys off. I listened to two hours and I was like, well, now we're in fucking two hours.
Starting point is 02:56:20 I loved it. You didn't even get good until hour three. Oh, it was not, no, I probably listened to almost three hours and I was like, oh no. Oh my God. And I think people turned, they went, oh, they're too drunk. You didn't even get good until hour three. No, I probably listened to almost three hours, and I was like, oh, no. Oh, my God. And I think people turned.
Starting point is 02:56:28 They went, oh, they're too drunk. You guys got too drunk. Be honest with me. You got too high and drunk. I was fine. People got fucking pissed at me. People got... I've never had so much heat publicly.
Starting point is 02:56:39 Cholos and shit got mad at me. Gang bangers. A gang banger got fucking mad. Alex Jones, he started going, tell you what trump told me yeah and then you guys just go off on another fucking dance i'm like tell us what the fuck he said but he was high but that's what alex does alex will tell you one subject they'll turn corners george soros making the marijuana stronger and then next thing you know it's the astronauts really did lay on the moon but the problem was they found aliens they're like hey hey, hey, hey, hey. Relax.
Starting point is 02:57:05 Have you ever seen this? Relax your back. He goes back and forth and back and forth and back. Even Eddie was like, oh, damn. You're doing so well. What was the one thing that got you? Fuck. There was one thing in the middle of the podcast where Eddie sat back and went, wait, wait,
Starting point is 02:57:18 wait, you believe what? I remember that. I remember that. Eddie stopped him. This whole time, this whole time, I'm the crazy motherfucker saying all this crazy shit. And I go, one of these days. He's been friends with Alex Jones since fucking 1998. He should have been on.
Starting point is 02:57:35 Alex Jones should have been on episode three or four or five. We ended up being 911. Finally. I waited all this time. I knew what I was doing. Finally waited all this time. I go, oh shit. I waited all this time I go Oh shit I even asked Joe
Starting point is 02:57:46 I go dude Let me fucking jump on that bitch I had a I never do that I never do that I did that for Paul Stanley and Kiss Oh shit did you It didn't work out
Starting point is 02:57:53 I thought I was gonna be gone I had the date different But I was in town And I said I can't make it I'm gonna be out of town But it turned out You were good though But anyways
Starting point is 02:58:01 I showed up And I'm thinking Finally Someone else Is gonna just talk for me and for the first hour i didn't say shit right i didn't say nothing right i didn't say nothing yep i didn't say no i go i'm taking all this chemtrail shit tiger and me and alex jones have talked about chemtrails and he knows so he knows a thousand times more about chemtrails than i do he has the documents memorized in his head.
Starting point is 02:58:26 He's got a photographic memory. So I finally talked after an hour and let him go. He wowed the whole world. Everyone's like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. We're getting fucked here. We are getting fucked. And then I decided to bring the chemtrails up.
Starting point is 02:58:42 And he didn't want to talk about it. He didn't want to talk about Trump. He wanted to keep going Trump, and I wanted to go chemtrails up. And he didn't want to talk about it. He wanted to talk about Trump. He wanted to keep going Trump. And I wanted to go chemtrails. And I got kind of pissed. And I was like, fuck, I've been waiting this whole fucking time. Why are you so obsessed with chemtrails? What is it about chemtrails?
Starting point is 02:58:55 It's just air. It's just air. It's just air. Colossation. I don't know. It's just air. For some reason, I think air is important. It's just 1025.
Starting point is 02:59:02 I've got to get out of here. I've got to spot the store. You've got to spot the store. You got to spot the store. Soon. Let's end on that shit. Yeah, I got to spot the store. Anybody working tonight? You guys working?
Starting point is 02:59:11 I'm off to Australia tomorrow night. There's only tickets left in Sydney and Auckland. Hold up. When are you doing stand-up? You know you're doing stand-up. We got to do this. We got to make this happen. Dude, I'm ready to go.
Starting point is 02:59:20 I know. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. Five minutes.
Starting point is 02:59:21 I know. I write all the time. Next show. I write all the time. I told Sam Tripoli, I go, dude, put me on a secret little tiny up belly room show.
Starting point is 02:59:28 Don't, I just want to go up there. I don't want to tell anybody. This is what we're going to do. I got five minutes. I'll do a Wednesday. I do Wednesdays at the Ice House all the time.
Starting point is 02:59:35 Next Wednesday, I do at the Ice House. Go up. Commit to it. I'll patch you. When is it? I'll put, we'll figure it out.
Starting point is 02:59:40 We'll work it out. Not this Wednesday, but I like it. I'll give you plenty of time. Five minutes. Is that normal Yes Still normal Because I know on
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