The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - March 12, 2017

Episode Date: March 12, 2017

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub, Bryan Callen, and Eddie Bravo to watch the fights on March 11, 2017. ...

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Go! Go live. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. That's a nice jam. Alright, we're not waiting for Brian Callen any longer. We're watching these fights. These fights already happened. Eddie Bravo's here. Hola! Hi! Of course, Brandon Schwab is in the house.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Hola! The UFC from Fortaleza, Brazil last night. I did not watch it. I know none of the results. I'm so proud of myself. I've never done this before. So we're going to watch these. Brian Callen pretended he forgot what time it is.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And he pretended that his phone didn't automatically update. Like, whose fucking phone doesn't automatically do daylight savings time? Bitch, your phone switches over. Your phone knows what's going on. Bitch, most of us have an Apple iPhone automatically did it With a time chain I'm Like why is my rock watch wrong yes like I knew my watch was wrong like anyway like I just used my phone
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm like a farmer. I knew because the sun wasn't up. Because my kid wakes up early as fuck. And I was like, what? It is not 7 o'clock, man. Because the sun would be out. Eddie, do you know any of the results? I know one fight.
Starting point is 00:01:15 You son of a bitch. Of course he does. Of course you do. Your boy. Yeah, don't even say nothing. Don't say nothing. And do you know any of the results? No.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I watched the prelims. And I was good. And I was lucky because I had boxing. Lemieux versus Stevens, which was a fucking fight. Damn. I heard it was a great fight. Some dude got so murked. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:01:34 Stevens got murked so bad by a left hook. Oh, you just told me. You just told me what happened, you son of a bitch. Well, fuck, man. You asked me. Well, fuck, bro. Come on, man. HBO boxing.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Oh, shit. Dude, he was out. I don't know. Hopefully he's alive. Lemieux killed a guy. He can crack. He can crack. Both of them can.
Starting point is 00:01:52 And Lemieux came in heavier, and people were like, oh, he might be out of shape. And when you talk about a high-level fight, championship fight, and dudes were, I mean, they were like, fuck 12 rounds. Wow. It was fun. The fight before that, terrible. Really? Awful.
Starting point is 00:02:06 What was that fight? I forget the guy. It was a horrible fight. Even Max Kellerman and Lambert were like, God, we apologize. Wow, they were apologizing? They were like, that was a snooze fest. Hopefully this one lives up to it. And it did.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I never apologize. I don't think I've ever apologized for a fight. That's rough. I've never heard a guy apologize for a fight. They were just kind of clowning on it. Oh. Like, after sitting through that, thank God for this fight. You know, you guys would never do that.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Ever, right? I don't think so. I mean, something would have to be really wrong. But there have been some fights that were really crazy. Do you remember that Nate Quarry fight where the dude he was fighting from the Ultimate Fighter? God damn it, I forgot the fellow's name. But he was literally running away backwards. He had broken his foot or something.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Caleb Starnes. Caleb Starnes, thank you. Literally backpedaling. And then Nate Quarry starts doing some crazy thing where he puts his hand up in front of his face and he's just walking towards him going like this. He's mocking him. At least that was fun, though. And then the dude gave him two fingers but he was just not engaging.
Starting point is 00:03:05 It was real weird. Was that the end of the guy's career? It was downhill from there for sure. Well, Caleb went to fight in some other organizations I believe. He's good friends with Tate because they were on the same season. That's right. Was that season two? Season two or three. Canadian fella, right? Yeah. Yeah. You were backpedaling against
Starting point is 00:03:22 nothing against Nate Curry. I like that guy but you think he was fighting TRT Vitor Belfort the way he was backpedaling. It was, I think he hurt something. And I think he was like, you know what? These guys are not paying me enough. You know? Because I think that was his argument, actually, after the fact. They're not paying me enough to engage?
Starting point is 00:03:36 How little he gets paid. Bitch, you signed up for it. But I think his mind was as soon as he hurt his foot or something like that, he was like, fuck this. I'm just going to get through these mats. I can kind of get that. You know, he's like, I can't hit right now or I can't move right now. And then you look at your doctor bill or whatever.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Not only that, you look at your memory, you know, where your memory is going to go. What's up? Victor Belfort did not look like. TRT Vitor. Yeah. Definitely clean. The golden snitch is out Everywhere
Starting point is 00:04:06 He gets to Brazil Did you see the fucking odds On the fight Yes I don't know who won the fight I don't know a goddamn thing But I know the odds were crazy In Kelvin's favor
Starting point is 00:04:14 It kind of makes sense though right Three and a half to one Yeah It makes sense though Think about Vitor's last fight It's Gayguard Then who Weidman before that
Starting point is 00:04:21 Like he just hasn't looked great At all Especially in that first round I have to fucking love Kelvin at 185. I know people always say, what about you, Romero, bro? See, I love him. I don't like him with the top five matchups. See, I think if he just lifts weights, just gets in serious condition,
Starting point is 00:04:36 I do like him at 185. That's a big if, though, isn't it? Because still his reach and everything. I don't know, man. He looked pretty goddamn good here. He looked different. He looked thick. I mean, Kelvin's never going to look like a bodybuilder.
Starting point is 00:04:46 That's not his build. He's like Dan Henderson. He's got a warrior's body. Like that motherfucker, he could go for days. But then you add muscle to your point. You add muscle. Then what? Yeah, Vitor looks so different.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Vitor has that straight up dad TRT bod. Like he got off of it and then just straight dad. I mean, he still looks scary, but nothing like the Rockhold Vitor. Rockhold Vitor, for me, top three scariest fighters of all time. Yeah, I agree. I was thinking about last night. There he is, right there. There he is.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Look how goddamn jacked he was. And quick, spinning wheel kicks and shit. Remember when he beat the brakes off Anthony Johnson? Yep. God! Look at this dog! Look how jacked he is when he threw that wheel kick. Look at his shoulder. Holy shit. Remember when he beat the brakes off Anthony Johnson? Yep. Look at that. God! Look how jacked he is when he threw that wheel. Look at that shoulder. Holy shit. Everything.
Starting point is 00:05:32 His abs have muscles. Don't you wish he was still like that? Part of me does. Yeah, me too. He can go to Rison. No, he should. No. He could easily go to Rison and get paid. And do that? Yeah, on TRT. Well, look at what Krokop did Krokop went
Starting point is 00:05:46 over there Krokop's still doing it you just gotta wonder how many does Vitor has left 20 years yeah he's 20 years but I think these guys on TRT they can compete way longer than that even 20 years if you let Vitor take whatever the fuck he wants and let him go over to Japan oh he's spinning wheel kicking bitches face off in 60 he's gonna be doing some crazy shit Even 20 years. I think if you let Vitor take whatever the fuck he wants and let him go over to Japan. Oh, he's spinning wheel kicking bitches face off to 60. He's going to be doing some crazy shit. But here's the question. Would he?
Starting point is 00:06:15 Would he be as aggressive if he was fighting another dude on TRT? Oh, yeah. You think so? Think about back in the day. Think about when he fought Vanderlei. When he was 19. Those motherfuckers were juice monkeys. Literally, he was so aggressive remember no technique Just the fucking bodybuilder straight punch like this we caught him with a straight left, and he was wearing shoes. Yeah
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yes, he was wearing wrestling shoes Brazilian on Brazilian crime if Rison Sticks around and they become like as powerful as pride was and there you know they just don't disappear like a bunch of other shows, there's going to be an outlet, a very big outlet for people to retire from the UFC and get back on TRT. Like a master's tour? Yeah, like jumpstart their career. Do you know about 1FC's weight cutting program?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Do you know about it? A little bit. Rich Franklin was helping with that, right? Do you know about it, how they're doing it? A little bit. Rich Franklin was helping with that, right? Because you were talking about they cut a lot of weight. Yeah. Those guys, they've got some new innovative way, they think, to diminish the amount of weight guys cut.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I don't know exactly how they're doing it, but I think it has something to do with hydration tests. See if you can pull that up, Jamie. 1FC. Okay. Can you imagine in negotiations, like rising negotiations, they say, you know you want to do TRT. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:07:32 We'll give it to you. We'll give you the best shit. We'll hook it up for you. They'll have it right there on the table. With a needle. You know how many guys are going to sign that? Come on. You'll know you want it. You'll know you want it. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
Starting point is 00:07:46 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, Bisping's eye all fucked up. Can you imagine the presentation? That would just put it at the ultimate highlight. Oh, look, Brian Counts here.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Did you lock the door? Huh? Lock the door. Did you? Yeah. Good man. Dude, I thought it was 530. Well, sit down.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Have a seat. What's up, man? No, no. No handshake. Are you sick? What are you doing? You knuckling everybody? No, I just knuckle.
Starting point is 00:08:21 You're a boxer now, right? You just touch knuckles. I'm not sick. I knuckle, man. Look at me. Have a seat, goddammit. Welcome back? You just touch knuckles. I knuckle, man. Have a seat, goddammit. Welcome back. Put the headsets on.
Starting point is 00:08:29 This is a good fight. They talked a lot of shit. The first fight. Of course they did. Well, the first fight, Tim Means hit him with an illegal knee that a lot of us were unsure of. I fucked that one up, too. I use illegal knees all the time. See, because he's got one knee on the ground, two hands up. And we were like, ooh. And here's the he's got one knee on the ground, two hands up, and we're like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And here's the thing. All he had on the ground was a knee. He actually had even lifted his other leg up, and he didn't even have his foot on the ground. So it was like, you know, there was that whole thing of points of contact. Say you have to have at least three points of contact. He actually only had one point of contact. But if it's not the bottom of your foot, it doesn't count.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So that's where it was so confusing. So confusing that even Mark Ratner, when we went to him in the fight for clarification on the rules, he said it was legal. He said it was a legal knee. And then big John McCarthy pulls me over and goes, no, he goes, that's fucking illegal. I go, okay, it is illegal. I go, so it's when you say points of contact, like if it's only just a knee, if only the knee is on the ground and the foot's not even on the ground
Starting point is 00:09:29 and the other foot's off the ground, that's a downed opponent? And he's like, yes, anything but the soles of the feet. That's what it should say. Anything but the soles of the feet. So my thought was, well, what if some guy shoots a power double on you, right, and his knee's on the ground as he's sliding in, which it often is, and you fucking knee him to oblivion as he's moving into that. It's a transition, so it doesn't count, right? And his knees on the ground as he's sliding in, which it often is. And you fucking knee him to oblivion as he's moving into that... It's a transition, so it doesn't count, right?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Does it? No. Is that a transition? But that's not really a transition. I mean, that's a guy making his approach and you're countering his approach, and he's a downed opponent. He's got a knee on the ground, he's sliding towards you. I think that's a downed opponent. But wouldn't that be the same like with a wheel kick? A lot of times it's behind the ear, but it's in transition. That's a towards you. I think that's a downed opponent. But wouldn't that be the same like with a wheel kick?
Starting point is 00:10:05 A lot of times it's behind the ear, but it's in transition. That's a creepy one. I think it's different, but similar. Very similar. Eddie and I have talked about that a million times. Because it's the best position to be if you get the guys back. You see a wheel kick coming. You want to turn your head, right?
Starting point is 00:10:20 You want to turn your face? No, you can't turn your face. Listen, man, there's no good place to take a wheel kick ever except the body like if you took i would rather take one on the arm or on the body still not good no it's horrible it's horrible it's it's a bone breaker for sure that's it's it's so crazy that you have to pat up your hands but you are allowed to spin and with all of your body weight put in your heel and what Edson Barbosa did to Terry Edom. Remember that one? Terry Edom's jumping the buses now. He was never the same
Starting point is 00:10:49 again after that knockout. I mean never the same again. Never the same again. Never fought at that level again. That grazed the top of his head. That bounced off his head. You'll see it a million times. It sounded like a melon getting hit real bad. Maybe in person. But the highlight it doesn't look like it connects flush.
Starting point is 00:11:06 It goes, boom, top of the head. Because I remember, because that was the highlight for these entire fights. They kept showing that. And I was like, God, it doesn't look like it was a fucking straight up heel to the grill. I'd have to see it again. But the amount of power that you have in all of your body weight, if you have a really good one and you can generate all that fucking torque and your leg comes up
Starting point is 00:11:28 and there's so much weight behind it, that's one of the reasons why I stopped fighting was a knockout when I was 19 years old in Anaheim. I wheel kicked this guy in the head and he never got up. They carried him off the mat. They had him in a stretcher for a half an hour and then they brought him to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:11:43 It scared the shit out of me. My heel was sore. My heel. My heel. My fucking heel. The hard part from his face was sore for days. For like two days I was walking with a little limp. Dude, I was thinking about that last night when Stevens got knocked
Starting point is 00:11:57 up by Lemieux and he's just laying there and there's a stretcher. There's like five minutes go by and you can see him breathing and Max Kellerman goes, well, at least he's breathing and then his mom is caged side takes all the fun out of the knockout I was like oh hell yeah what was it what kind of knockout box and left hook their exchange left hooks out out let me let me you got no Stevenson anyways but when when he's out on the ground I was thinking myself what's the? So he's being rushed to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:12:26 They're looking for brain bleeding there, I guess. So when the guy's out more than four minutes, you're in trouble. A lot of trouble. Yeah, they have to have really experienced guys who have dealt with those kind of traumatic brain injuries on site to get it and handle it right. That's one of the real issues with those smaller shows where people that want to do smokers. If you're doing a smoker, someone could easily get head kicked with a smoker. Yeah, man. And by the way, wheel kicks are legal in a smoker.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So think about that. Think about everybody's wearing those padded shin and insteps, but you're not padding up your heel. No. If someone decides to spin on you and they catch you in the side of the head, it doesn't matter if you're wearing headgear. Let somebody wheel kick you in the head. Yeah. It's like getting hit by a tree. Baseball bat.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Your leg is so fucking big. It's a goddamn baseball bat to your face. Dude, I'll tell you who you want by your bedside is Dr. Davidson. There it is right here? Oh, yeah. Dr. Davidson's amazing. What's this? Dr. Davidson for the UFC.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Here it is. Boom. Watch this, though. In fast motion, the sound is horrible. Oh, my God. What a perfect left. And then it falls into this thing. He's like that for the next four or five minutes. Oh, my God. What a perfect left. And then, like, falls into this thing. He's like that for the next four or five minutes.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Oh, my God. They turn the camera away. Jesus Christ. They take him out and stretch him. Oh, my God. Well, you know what, man? Right here, exchange of hooks. Look.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Such a perfect punch, too. Yeah, boom. He eats it, too. Oh, damn. Talk about a power puncher, both these boys. What a perfectly landed punch. Remember, Lemieux got dismantled by Triple G, too,
Starting point is 00:13:48 which is so impressive. In fast motion, you're like, Jesus Christ. He didn't necessarily get dismantled. He got the shit beat out of him, but he took that fight into deeper water than a lot of people expected. He's a tough guy. Triple G threw 50-something jabs in the first round, because he thought he was going to bang with him. Triple G, you see his jab,
Starting point is 00:14:04 you're like, oh my god, he has world-class jabs. He can box, too. He can fucking box. Yeah. Like, Lemieux didn't really have a chance the whole time. He definitely didn't have a chance, but he definitely landed some shots. I mean, he definitely tested Triple G
Starting point is 00:14:14 more than anybody had in recent fights before that. I'm a Lemieux fan, man. Me, too. Oof. Like, maybe Cal Brooks tested him a little bit, too, before Triple G got to him, but his corner was like, throw the towel in as soon as it looks sketchy.
Starting point is 00:14:25 They did the right move, too. They did. He's about to get eat the fuck up. But couldn't see out of his eye. They were like, yeah, good enough. Yeah, good job, bro. That's a good effort. Fuck this.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Good for them, bro, doing this. Who was that guy that fought Lomachenko and pulled out way early? Oh, you're talking about the Jamaican film? Yeah. But he was like, I think he was 3-2 yeah, then they're like he's never gonna live this down I mean he wasn't getting his ass. What he's just like I can't beat him I realize he was so outclassed with this. We said so much fun to watch amazing Oh, but the what the guy said in the post fight interview. He's like I saw where this was going
Starting point is 00:15:01 He wanted to live to fight another day that makes sense He wanted to live to fight another day. That makes sense to me. That's a smart fighter. Max Kellerman says to him, don't you think a lot of people usually, we envy those that go out on their shield. He's like, no, I get that. Yeah, that's Lemachenko, though. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:14 What the fuck do you want me to do? I'm definitely going to get this shit kicked out of me. I think there's a lot of times where a guy's moving around fine, he looks good on TV, but he knows in his head that he is tuned up and one shot away from going unconscious. And guys just go, that's it. Or he's just out of tricks. Or he's just like, that guy's figured out all my patterns, he can do whatever he wants to me, and I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:15:32 just a punching bag. Well, you remember when Nigel Benn fought what was the homeboy's name? Gerald McClellan. Thank you very much. This is round one of Olivera Tim Means. It's 48,llan, thank you very much. Round one. Yeah, this is round one of Oliveira, Tim Meens. It's 48, 49, 46 seconds into the, or 46.
Starting point is 00:15:50 This should be violent. 43, the number on the screen is 41, 40, 39, 38, 37, 36. All right, sync it up. Guys just coming at you. Thank you, Jamie. Sorry. Tim Meens. What were we just talking about, Lomachenko?
Starting point is 00:16:05 You were talking about... Oh, that guy knowing that it was never going to work out for him. He was just getting boxed up. I was thinking, the Gerald McClellan fight, when Gerald went down and took a knee, there wasn't some big punch that landed before that. It was an accumulation of all the stuff that led up to that moment. And when he quit they were like kind of
Starting point is 00:16:25 shocked like no and then he you know what's like that people get the kodo the kodo um manny pacquiao fight after the third round um you could hear freddie going you got to take him out and when we spoke to freddie after i don't want to, but he said, why didn't he knock him out when he could have? And Freddie said, well, he didn't want to hurt him. That's public knowledge. Is it? Yeah. That was crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But his corner said to Miguel was like, if we don't see any improvement, we're going to stop it here. This is getting bad. And then Manny just didn't want to hurt him. He goes, I could have knocked him out. I didn't want to hurt him. Amazing. God, I love him. What a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:17:04 What a nice guy. So weird that he's so nice and yet such a killer yeah it's really he's a really odd world champion he really is yeah it's good stuff going on right here yeah he was wild as and then he found jesus trying to get up and he's doing a pretty good job whereas it means high level jiu jitsu Yeah it means he's a full rounded guy He's one of the best guys at 170 He's just like a hair under some of the other top guys He's not great at anything He's good at everything
Starting point is 00:17:34 He's great at elbows That motherfucker's got some nasty elbows He's not like top 5 In the division? In elbows? I think he is I'm saying top five overall. He might have the best elbows in the 170-pound division. I'm not bullshitting.
Starting point is 00:17:48 That is aggressive, sir. I'm telling you, his elbows, especially in the stand-up positions, are nasty. He throws them real crisp. He throws them in tight positions. Everything is like real efficient. It's all done with like real solid technique. I mean, there's better fighters than him currently. You know, there's guys that have a full, complete game. There's
Starting point is 00:18:05 guys like, you know, beasts like Tyron Woodley or like Damian Maia. I mean, Damian Maia is just a goddamn beast. The top ten would be tough for him. Yeah, it'd be tough for him, but he's close. Yeah, Oliveira's all over him. Yeah, he's two good takedowns. You know what happened in the first fight? So, the first fight was called a no contest.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Because of the knee? Because of the knee, yeah. that's what it was called right so confusing it was weird because they said it was an unintentional foul but clearly he thought it was legal so it was intentional they call him the dirty bird yeah it's his nickname
Starting point is 00:18:37 he's one of the guys who got caught by the golden snitch and actually won three touchdowns yeah he got caught by the golden snitch with a this tiny amount of some shit that was in a supplement that he bought. And so they bought the supplement randomly from a store and they found the exact same stuff. You don't look at Tim Meen's body and go, ah, steroids.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Well, it doesn't matter, man. No, you can't do that. There's dudes that have taken steroids and they don't really lift weights. They just train jujitsu and MMA and they don't look any bigger than anybody else. Yep. Steroids, I mean, the real thing is the guys that lift weights. When Lance Armstrong was taking hormones and all the shit he was taking, he didn't look jacked.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah, that's the misconception. Everyone thinks they're going to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. They could be doping just to oxidate in their blood. There are a lot of things, right? Well, it's also the testosterone aids in recovery. But the big thing is the only way you're getting bigger is if you're lifting weights. It's resistance exercise. That's what makes your body get bigger it's not going to get bigger just by you get a little bit bigger just by doing kickboxing some lean muscle yeah a little
Starting point is 00:19:32 bit you'll look bigger yeah maybe a little bit but not like you're never going to look like like hector lombard or anything dude i would love to see i know this is a random ass fight even but cowboys come off last i'd like to see uh like don serrani cowboy versus tim means yeah that'd be a scrap wasn't that scheduled at one point in time in denver maybe i feel like boy why am i making that up a fucking scrap oh it'd be insane that's why i like to watch tim because it's kind of like that matt brown type of crazy pace well he also has really good stand-up and he he's a big, tall guy. And Donald has that nasty Muay Thai and really good leg kicks.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I like that Donald's taking some time off. I love it. I love that he's taking some time off. Just chill, man. Just chill out. Let's come up with a game plan to make you world champion. Yeah, you were so right about how tough that fight was with matt brown just despite the victory despite the fact that he won it you got to remember he did get dropped in that fight
Starting point is 00:20:30 yeah but all we see is the highlight of that head kick but like man that was a tough go yeah there was a lot i was gonna walk in the park i saw the new king kong movie because i'm 12. is it good loved it because i'm 12. they can't make enoughved it because I'm 12. Because I'm 12. They can't make enough King Kongs for me. I love them. This is probably the best one ever. Is it good? Guys, another space movie. What is this? But you know what? They went full on diversity in this King Kong. First of all, there's no rape. King Kong
Starting point is 00:20:57 no longer steals the girl. In every other movie, King Kong gets the girl and he's like, oh, I got this. And he just runs off with her. And this one, he just protects her and he never tries to fuck her and he's so much bigger than any other King Kong gets a girl and he's like, oh, I got this, and he just runs off with her. He's trying to fuck her. He just protects her, and he never tries to fuck her, and he's so much bigger than any other King Kong in the past. Really? This new King Kong? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 This new King Kong, literally a girl is not even a lighter in his hand. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The new King Kong's way bigger than the King Kong that climbed the Empire State Building. Is it the son of the old King Kong? No, no, no. It's a totally new story. It's a reboot.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Oh, you can't do that. They can't do that. Oh, it's a new story? Totally new story. It's a reboot. They can't do that. They can't do that. Oh, it's a new story? Totally new story. Completely different story. I thought Kong had a kid. All the natives on the island are all Asian now.
Starting point is 00:21:32 No more black people. Oh, weak. I like the aboriginal. But wait, wait. Hold on. The problem with that is that mountain gorillas should be in the Congo and they should be black. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:39 This is a mutant, son. South Pacific. And this is an island that time forgot. It's a hollow earth. And inside there's these demons, and then there's Kong. And Kong's actually the hero. He protects them from the demons. Well, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Spoiler alert! Okay, but... Yeah, kind of. How dare you? Guess what? Yeah, I'm here to tell you, Kong is in the movie the entire time. But wait, who are the demons? Who are the demons?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Some things that live in the hollow earth. They live in the middle of the ground. Ah, that's fake, bro. Round two. Those guys were, like were high-fiving each other. You wanted to hug them. Yeah, all of a sudden said no. No, there's no way. Oh, ducking that wheel kick.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Don't ever pull that shit on me. Don't ever bring that shit into my cage again. Oh, that's not a good situation. That's what I say when guys try to wheel kick. I go, don't ever bring that shit into my cage again. Do you ever have fantasies that you you do that to someone yes i do of course i do who are you talking to but why do you ever wonder why why would why would you even want to say that to somebody because i want to be cooler
Starting point is 00:22:35 than everybody that's right but you gotta understand that if you were that cool person you would not have said that i know that dude, but my fantasy is to do this. I want to do this. If he had done that, I want to stop, pull back, and go, oh, you want to dance? And then I come in with a fucking hurricane. That's what I'm worried about with you. It's like your mind thinks the world is a movie, like a really shitty action movie.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And I'm the star. Yeah. Yes, that's right. Yes, yes. Adam Hunter told me he was in a fist fight with someone once, and as they were getting ready to go at it, he goes, he was a drunk dude, and the dude was like,
Starting point is 00:23:11 Tonight, we dine in hell! Oh, hell no. That's embarrassing. He really did say that. Did Adam beat the shit out of him? Did the guy spartan kick him in the face? Adam's a nice guy, and I believe that Adam was sober at the time. And Adam's a very good wrestler, by the way.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yes, he is. He's a high school wrestler. We wrestled at the same high school. I think what he did was just took the guy down or held on to him. He was like, get this fucking guy away from me. Tonight, we dine in hell. I'm actually saying that to somebody. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:40 That's amazing. Tonight, we dine in hell. If he's just a savage, it's awesome. Or he just thinks it's like the movies. If it wasn't in a movie, it would still be ridiculous. Even if it wasn't in a movie. I would turn and run if I've never heard that before in some games. Tonight we dine in hell.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Like, damn, you're willing to risk some shit. I'm not. I would be saying keep talking, stupid. Keep talking. The more you're talking, the more it's good. Bro, tonight we dine in hell, you know? Yeah, I would say, yeah, keep talking. Tell me more. Tell me more. Make up some
Starting point is 00:24:09 other shit so you'll be distracted when I punch you in the face. I'd say someone needs to record this shit because these are good lines before we fight. This shit is epic. But I think the guy was just very fortunate that Adam's a good guy. Oh, Oliveira with the back. Oliveira's got his back here.
Starting point is 00:24:27 That's bad. That body triangle is such a bitch. Doesn't look good. Oh, he's got it. Oh, he's under the chin. How do you get out of that? Oh, shit. He got the tap.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And revenge. Revenge for Oliveira. Oliveira can be a little mean. Oh, there we go. Oh, he's cool. Oh, they're good. Oh, that's good. Iira can be a little mean. Look at that. Oh, there we go. Oh, he's cool. Oh, they're good. Oh, that's good. I like that.
Starting point is 00:24:48 That's cool. That's cool. All right, don't do that. Don't do that. He said no. Hey, Tim goes, get up. Get up, bro. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Please don't do that. Yeah, those guys that like to do that, get on your knees and kneeling shit in front of each other. Some dudes just don't play. Remember Pat Baird and Crow Cup? How they were just hugging. Wheel kick to the face. Hug. High five. That such a weird fight yeah those and didn't pat berry like break his hand like real early on that fight too yeah and then got choked out yeah they gave me crow cop and joe silver comes up and goes you better not fucking pat
Starting point is 00:25:20 berry and show him too much love i was like j, Jesus, man. I'll try my best. Jesus chose so well. I will try my best, sir. Did take the back with the trip. That was a cool trip. That's a big win for Oliveira after losing in a fucked up way. Because before he lost with that knee, before the fight was stopped, he was getting tuned up. Huge win. I don't think I've seen anybody get out of a body triangle. How do you do that?
Starting point is 00:25:43 You lean towards the side that it's locked up on. It puts pressure on the ankle. There's ways, if you have good dexterity, that you can clear the leg. You've got to know how to do it. You've got to know how to put your weight down and angle your hips down. And it's a slow process to open up that triangle. Guys can do it. But when you're getting punched in the face every time you reach for that ankle.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Well, the worst is when a guy's got your belly down. Belly down with that body triangle feels like your back's going to break. It's so the face every time I reach for that ankle. Well, the worst is when a guy's got you belly down. Belly down with that body triangle. It feels like your back's going to break. It's so much pressure. Hey, that's three in a row for a cowboy. Because that's not a loss for a homeboy. No, the last one's not a loss. I think that's three in a row for a homeboy.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Boy, he's jacked. Yeah, he is. Marvel. Oh, there's a new Marvel? Thank God. Fist of Fury. What? Come on.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Is that what this is? Yeah, dude. Is this the Kung Fu guy? Dude, I used to watch this, read this comic book when I was a kid. Pronounced Kung Fu. I've never heard of it. Dude.
Starting point is 00:26:28 It's terrible. It's going to be the worst one ever. It's ridiculous. Yeah, but look at his hair. Whatever happened with that Daredevil one? Is that still around?
Starting point is 00:26:34 The series? I think so. I think it does pretty well, doesn't it? That's a Netflix one too, right? Damn, he's got a magic fist though. Flash.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I watched Doctor Strange the other day. I heard it's good. It's not bad. It's not bad. Doctor Strange. I was Doctor Strange the other day. I heard it's good. It's not bad. It's not bad. Doctor Strange. I was a big fan of it when I was a kid. So for me, it was like, wow, this is cool to see them do their take on the story with all new special effects.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I heard that Logan movie's the shit. Me too. I heard it so fucking much. It's supposed to be like the best superhero movie ever. Jamie saw it. Didn't you love it, Jamie? It's really good, yeah. Yeah. Hey, man, a little more enthusiasm.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I wouldn't go with the love it. Is it rated R? There's a lot of shit and violence and whatnot. B-Shot with the throwing stars on his jacket. What's up, dog? Don't be scared. Shoot again. Dude, that's impressive. Thanks, man. Throwing stars are underrated, man. I carry them all the time.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Dude, I... Yeah, I want to see Logan, though. Throwing stars are underrated, man. I carry them all the time. Dude, I... I bet you do. Yeah, I want to see Logan, though. I heard it's really, really good. Yeah. They're saying it's so good, it's like one of those movies... You know how, like, Deadpool's up for an award? That's how Logan's supposed to be. I think King Kong's going to beat it.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I'm always down for King Kong, man. King Kong. King Kong. Whenever King Kong gets in a fight... Is this called Kong or Kong? I'm not paying attention Kong K-O-N-G
Starting point is 00:27:47 But you know what the problem is? Like whenever he gets in a fight With something You know he's not gonna get killed By some monster Like there's zero drama Yeah And so he's like
Starting point is 00:27:55 Okay how's this gonna play out? When does King Kong Get to fuck him up? Because it's gonna happen Right You're not gonna let this Demon monster thing Beat up King Kong
Starting point is 00:28:02 In King Kong's fucking movie Now that would be a movie, right? That's a good movie right there. A little twist. It's really about demons and not that stupid girl. And then he dies. He dies with 15 minutes left in the movie. Just gets you off guard.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Or you do a subtle movie where he gets a virus and he's got a cold and then he dies quietly. Or he dies right away, but then the rest of the movie is like going back in time. You find out how he got killed. That makes sense. What do you think? You think by making King Kong this big, they're trying to set up a King Kong versus Godzilla movie? Oh, that's happening. It's already happened.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Is it? It has happened back in the Japanese days. I guarantee they're making it now. And then they'll throw some Avengers in there and shit. Because now King Kong is as big as Godzilla. Like this new King Kong is as big as Godzilla. I don't like that. Let's live a little more I feel like a giant ape would have an advantage over a giant lizard because a lizard Basically, I guess guys claws, but then I was that he breathes
Starting point is 00:28:59 Doesn't he breathe he breathes fire. Yes, he breathes fucking fire. Oh, you know what? 1933 to 2017. Look at the difference between all the King Kongs. See, I'm a fan of that 76 Kong. Not too big, not too small. King Kong Escapes, 1967. That must be the Japanese version. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, so the original King Kong was only 18 feet tall.
Starting point is 00:29:19 That's not that tall. Wow. See, but that's realistic. But the Kong on Skull Island is huge. He's 100 feet tall. That's bullshit. Well, how big is he? Is that Skull Island one?
Starting point is 00:29:30 So he's 100 feet tall? In Jack Black, he's only how tall? He was 148 feet tall in King Kong vs. Godzilla in 62 in Japan. Simply too big. 148 is huge. But isn't Godzilla 500 feet tall? I don't know. I felt like Godzilla... Where does he hide if he is
Starting point is 00:29:47 anyway? Dude, that Godzilla movie sucked. Remember the Godzilla movie? Yeah, with Bryan Cranston. P. Diddy was in it? P. Diddy sang the theme song. Oh, yeah. That was dark shit. I'll tell you, no, it was bad. That's definitely not good. Yeah, look how big Godzilla is. Oh, Godzilla started off, he was only 50 meters high.
Starting point is 00:30:03 So he's 100... What is that? That's 150 feet. I like my Godzilla 50 meters high. 50 meters, but there's like a little bit more. How do you do meters? I think it's like you add one. 3.3, 3 foot .3 inches or something. Yeah, you like to compare it to yards.
Starting point is 00:30:20 There's like some simple way of doing it. It's like 50 meters is like 55 yards, I think. I think that's okay. That's similar. That's fucking huge. Real similar. Yeah, so the 2014 Godzilla was the biggest one.
Starting point is 00:30:33 That was the Bryan Cranston Godzilla. The old one wasn't even that big. I like the latest one. The latest one was good. You saw it? He doesn't fly, does he? He doesn't fly either. Yeah, but he lives in the ocean, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Oh, he lives in the ocean. Hey, man. You know what? Godzilla had a real story about Godzilla. He can eat 86 tuna in one sitting. He ate a lot of nuclear waste or something. Yeah, he came out of the ocean. And breathed fire and lasers with his eyes and shit.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Well, it was because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, those bombs that we dropped on Japan. Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That's why those monsters came out of there, and they were all about radiation. Mothra, Gamera. Yeah, those people were terrified. Kind of makes sense. Of course. Those people were terrified.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Next weekend, Manowar versus Anderson. Oh, shit. Oh, that's my birthday, son. March 18th. What's up? What are you doing on your birthday, man? Absolutely nothing. Are you not a big birthday celebr son. March 18th. What's up? What are you doing on your birthday, man? Absolutely nothing. Are you not a big birthday celebrator?
Starting point is 00:31:27 Nope. Don't give a fuck. Do you want to do a fight companion on your birthday? That would be fun, huh? Let's do it. That's at 2 o'clock here. Perfect. A little afternoon.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Perfect. When is that? Fight companion. Next Saturday. Next Saturday. 2 p.m. Eddie, you in town? This Saturday?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Next Saturday. This next coming one. March 18th. This one coming next coming one. March 18th. This one coming up. Yeah, March 18th. It's my son's birthday party. Can't do it. Your son's born on March 18th?
Starting point is 00:31:52 16th. I'm on the 18th. Shout out to Pisces. Powerful Pisces. Do you follow all that astrology shit? My mom did, so I grew up knowing a lot of it. But does it mean anything to you? Do you identify with being a Pisces?
Starting point is 00:32:04 Does it make sense? Sometimes. God damn it, that's me. A little bit. But does it mean anything to you? Do you identify with being a Pisces? Does it make sense? Sometimes. God damn it, that's me. A little bit. Isn't it weird? Yeah. People think it's bullshit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:11 You know, what's shocking to me about it is how intricate it is when you look at all the things they take into consideration when they try to assess your personality or what you are based on where mercury is in retrograde what time of the day was it you meet a scorpion she's a girl she a freak she's freaking it's been my experience been my scorpions are beasts scorpio you know what's weird about the astrology thing is that there's 12 signs right yeah and in music there's 12 notes right look at the show in here. The Vitor at 19. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:46 When he fought Trey Telligan. Young John McCarthy. Oh, look at this. Look at this technique. That was him against Vanderlei. So gangster. Dude, look at the explosion. He was phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Dude, he was phenomenal. One of the greats. No doubt. Mount Rushmore. Yeah, when you think about who he was when he first started, man, until Randy Couture beat him down. Yeah. And then everybody was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:12 When he fought Randy Couture, I think he was literally 235 pounds. He was at least that. He might have been 240. I've never seen traps like that in my life. Have you heard the story about his sister? Yeah. His sister was killed, man. Not just killed. They did that thing, supposedly, that they do where they light you up on fire inside tires.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Cartel shit. Yeah. I think they call it... That kind of evil. Microwaving or something like that. Jesus Christ, Doug. You don't get over that. That's when you got...
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah, that's a beast. That's how they get rid of the body, I guess. Yeah, exactly. They put you inside tires and they light you on fire. And they wanted a ransom or something from him, right? Yeah. Then they couldn't find him. Horrible story, man.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Scary shit, dude. There's some evil fucks in this world. Yep. Super scary. Yeah, so he had to recover from all that. That took a long time. Then when he went over to Pride, he really wasn't the same guy. No, grew his hair out, had that wet jerry curl.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And then he came back to the UFC and had some fights where he looked sensational. I hear stories like that, and they ruin literally my fucking day. Yeah, it's hard to know that people are capable of that, right? Yes. It's hard to know. That's happening almost every day in the Middle East I mean people people getting blown up
Starting point is 00:34:26 civilians yeah in Mexico and more as more as it's going on all over the place right now people are being blown up dude I saw a kid when I was
Starting point is 00:34:34 I saw a family when I was at Disneyland wearing a El Chapo shirt I was like you fucking morons you realize what that stands for what are you thinking what the fuck are you guys thinking
Starting point is 00:34:44 that's so crazy well they're not thinking they think it's funny I bought them funnel cakes did you You realize what that stands for? What are you thinking? What the fuck are you guys thinking? That's so crazy. Well, they're not thinking it. They think it's funny. I bought them funnel cakes. Did you? No. I want to fucking throw it down their faces. You're so mad.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's ridiculous. How weird is that? It is. You're basically wearing a serial killer shirt. Yeah. You want a Bundy one? I'll go get you a fucking Ted Bundy one if you want. As long as you don't know anybody that got killed by the guy, though, there's something
Starting point is 00:35:04 about those people that's very attractive. Like, to us, when we see a Tony Soprano on TV, or you see any kind of a gang kingpin type character, as long as you're not directly affected by his evil deeds, there's something that's attractive about it. Well, look at Narcos. Like, Narcos, we're like,
Starting point is 00:35:20 damn, fucking, he's kind of pretty cool, man. Yeah. Like, he's a good dad. Yeah. It's weird, man. It's a weird thing that he's kind of pretty cool man yeah like you feel bad for him like when he's gonna die so much he's a good dad yeah it's weird man it's a weird thing that he's a murderer but we like we're rooting for him yeah blowing up planes i just think about you know what do you think do you think el chapo is bringing in more drugs into the country than like our own government i mean our own government's doing it and we're claiming claiming war on drugs, and we're bringing in more than the cartels are. Well, they're doing it in a legal way, Eddie. That's why the Afghanistan thing is so bizarre. They're not killing families and stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:53 When you find out how much they've ramped up heroin production in Afghanistan, if you don't think a few people have died for that, you're crazy. When bombs are being dropped on a daily basis, that's El Chapo shit right there for you. But they can hide that. They can hide the Afghanistan heroin trade thing. They can hide it right in front of everybody's face. That's what's really crazy. What's really crazy about the Afghan, it's all like the paper, like the actual paper
Starting point is 00:36:18 trail is undeniable. There's video of, I think, I don't know who it is, maybe Geraldo or somebody out there. Yes, Geraldo Rivera. He's standing in front of a, he's in the Middle East, he's standing in front of a poppy plantation, and there's military guys guarding it, and they say that
Starting point is 00:36:34 they're guarding it because, it's the weirdest excuse ever, we're guarding, we're protecting these poppy seeds, because if we don't, then Al-Qaeda is going to come in and then use it and sell it to fund their operation. So we got to make sure. They don't get a hold of it.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah. Did you see? Do you remember when Harada got fired? He was live on CNN. And he's like, all right, we're doing a secret mission here. We're locating draws in the sand. He's like, our mission is to go here. And they're like, you fucking moron.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Everyone's going to see this. And he got fired literally like the next day. Because they gave him like inside access. And he drew it in the sand what their plan was. He's a foolish man. Hilarious, though. Do you remember when he opened up Al Capone's vault and there wasn't shit in there? No.
Starting point is 00:37:19 You don't remember? No. It was a big news event. It was live on TV. We all sat around and watched. You don't remember that? Al Capone's vault. That's crazy. What year was that? Oh, man. I was a big news event. It was live on TV. We all sat around and watched. You don't remember that? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:26 What year was that? Oh, man. I want to say like 92. And Al Capone was not in there? 86. 86? 30 million people watching. Ah!
Starting point is 00:37:35 30 million people watched. Nothing. So he opened it up. Yeah, they opened it up. There wasn't shit in there. There was nothing. Zero. It was a long-running joke.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Oh, my God. I mean, it was like every late-night guy on TV was making jokes about it. Everyone had jokes about Al Capone's vault. It lasted for years. Geraldo Rivera and Al Capone's vault. Look at him. Powerful mustache. Yeah, he opened it up and nothing. But he's also the guy live from Chicago.
Starting point is 00:38:02 We're going to open it. Watch this. Boom. They got the thing. That's his vault. Bam. And they opened it. Yeah. We're going to open it. Watch this. Boom. They got the thing. That's his vault. Bam. And they opened it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Look, he took a chance with dramatic flair. Big chance. And it didn't really pay off. But if it did. Well, now he has to kill time and share it. I mean, yeah. Oh, man. He's got nothing in there.
Starting point is 00:38:21 God. But he's also the guy that had Dick Gregory, actually, on his television show, debuted the Zapruder film, which is the shot of Kennedy's head getting blown off and going back and to the left. And in what looks like a shot from the front, looks like a frontal shot. It looks like he was actually shot by more than one person. If you look at, there's various interpretations of the Zapruder film, but one interpretation that seems to make a lot of sense
Starting point is 00:38:51 is that he was hit from both the front and the back. Two shots. There was multiple people shooting at him, and if you talk to anyone who was trying to, if you looked at that pinch point, as they make that corner in Dealey Plaza, they were like, well, you wouldn't just have one guy with a rifle. You would make sure you were shooting at him from a bunch of different locations.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And Geraldo dropped that news? Geraldo showed the video. Geraldo's a beast. Hold on a second. Here's what's important. That video was many years after Kennedy's assassination. Like 10 years or something. Yeah, like a decade.
Starting point is 00:39:23 So for a decade, we had all thought that Lee Harvey Oswald had acted alone, and there was only a few people that didn't think he did, but there was no visual evidence that showed differently. Hey, Lee, for sure tell us, huh? The weird thing about that Zapruder film is it always baffled me that when you see him get hit, it looks like for a couple frames, it looks like half his head disappears and there's just a purple blob. It's a purple blob, but then when you look at the autopsy pictures, it's just the hole
Starting point is 00:39:53 in his head and he's just laying there. But it looks like the film was tampered with. That's what it looks like. Well, it doesn't look like the film was tampered with, but the autopsy photographs were most likely tampered with. And this was a big part of the contention that David Lifton had when he wrote the book Best Evidence. Watch it. Because there's two different...
Starting point is 00:40:11 Let's watch it. You'll see that it's a purple blob for two frames. Yeah, well, it's... It doesn't make any sense. It's spray. But you also don't want that. When the bullet's hitting his head, his head's... When you hit something with a bullet, there's a spray.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It looks like his whole face just flies off and there's just purple. Well, they say that his his piece of his head flew off and she Crawled yeah on the back to try to put his head back. No. Yeah, which is a human being no she didn't no she didn't Well, that's definitely no no no did not say that that's not what happened She was trying to get the fuck out of that limousine because people were shooting and they blew her husband's head off She wasn't going for any piece of meat I heard that no that she was reaching to... That's what people say.
Starting point is 00:40:46 People do say that. People say crazy shit like that. She was getting the fuck off that. Did she ever talk about it? She never talked about it, I guess. No, she never talked about it. She married Jackie Onassis right afterwards. She married one of the richest people she could find.
Starting point is 00:41:01 But don't you think with that autopsy, it's your president that just got assassinated, so you don't want to make him look the best possible. Well, look at the video. The Supruder film. It's on YouTube. But let me explain, because this is something I've really... I'd like to see it. I've read 15 different books on this shit, and I've watched 10 or 15 documentaries. Oh, your ball's deep in this.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah, well, one of the big things is there's a giant difference between the account, the autopsy, what they said, their description of the body and the wounds in Dallas versus their description and the wounds in Bethesda, Maryland. Two very different autopsies. One of them that shows an entrance wound on the neck, shows he got shot from the front and an entrance wound on his neck.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And another one that was changed to a tracheotomy scar. So there's a discrepancy. He grabs his neck like he got hit. He holds his neck maybe a second or two before his brains blow out, right? And when he's holding his neck like this, on one autopsy, on one account of the body, that's an entrance wound from a bullet. That's the Dallas one. But on another one, see, if you see him when he's going around the corner, he's already
Starting point is 00:42:02 holding his neck. See how he's holding his neck? Like, he reached up and grabbed himself, and he's looking down, and right around, he passes the pole, and his head blows off. Watch this. Right here. Boom. I don't see anything.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Hang on a second. Boom. No, no, no, no, no. Damn, bitch, get out of the way. This isn't super slow-mo. So he got shunned the... There he is. Oh! See how his head disappears right there? Like, what is that? It's like a flap of... No, no, no, no, no. Damn, bitch, get out of the way. This isn't super slow-mo. So he got shot in the... Oh!
Starting point is 00:42:27 See how his head disappears right there? Like, what is that? It's like a flap of... No, no, no. It's just a flap of bone and meat. It opened his head wide up. So watch. Look, she ain't going searching for a piece of head. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:42:35 She's trying to get the fuck off of that limousine. Well, we don't know what she's doing, right? You do. There's a Secret Service guy right behind her. Hey, bro. That's the Secret Service guy who's climbed up at the back of the car, and he's reaching for her to help her. You think she...
Starting point is 00:42:46 Oh, my God. What a horrible thing to live through. But the problem was nobody had seen that until 10 years after the assassination. So when they watch it, they go, oh, my God, his head goes back and to the left. That was like that Hicks joke that he kept talking about, back and to the left, back and to the left. I mean, he got shot. It looked like he was getting shot from the front. And it hit the right side of his head and his head goes back and to the left. I mean, he got shot. It looked like he was getting shot from the front. And it hit the right side of his head, and his head goes back and to the left.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But there's also some spray that appears to be either going forward. It could be an impact spray of the bullet from the front. Or it could be that he got shot with two different bullets at the same time. It's very possible that he got hit from the front and the back. It's basically very hard to tell what happened with one angle, right? Well, you know for sure he got shot in the head. Yeah, you know that. You know for sure his head blew apart.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Goddamn. What's crazy to me is after all these years, we don't know for a fact. No, they can't. There's no way they can. What does it mean that no one came out and talked about it? Watch it again. Watch this again. Now watch.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Watch. It's hard to tell if this is an impact spray or if it's an exit spray. Where's his head at? His head is right there. It looks like an impact spray to me, man. But it could be. What do I know? It could be an impact spray from the front.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Fuck. Meanwhile, it very well could be that it's an exit spray too. But the thing is, his head goes back into the left. But here's the question. Does it go back to the left from the momentum of getting hit in the head with a bullet, or is it a spasm from a dying body, like your body locks
Starting point is 00:44:12 up and it just throws itself into a convulsion? That's possible, too. I mean, a lot of crazy shit happens when you get shot in the fucking head. He was a real coxswain, too. I bet he was, but I don't think that had anything to do with this. So you don't think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone? I do not think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I do not. I do not think that it's even reasonable to assume that he acted alone. There's way, way too many people that had vested an interest in killing him. Like the Cubans? Yeah. There was a lot of people. There was a lot of people that wanted him dead. And it depends on what varying version of the story you're willing to buy into.
Starting point is 00:44:48 But what is possible, and this is one thing that people don't want to consider, they think either Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone or it's some wacky Tim Foyle hack conspiracy. I say neither. I say it might be both. I say Lee Harvey Oswald could have been in on it. He seemed like a gullible guy in a lot of ways. He'd been to Cuba, right? He'd been to Russia.
Starting point is 00:45:07 He'd been to Russia. He'd been to Cuba. He lived in Russia. He was married to a Russian woman. Lee Harvey Oswald was most certainly at least in cahoots with the FBI. He was in the CIA. Yes. Well, he definitely did some things for other organizations and brought over during the Cold War a Russian wife.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Lived over in Russia and then got back in the United States and brought over his Russian wife. a Russian wife lived over in Russia And then got back in the United States and brought over his Russian. He did also go to Cuba, right? Didn't he spend time in Cuba? I believe I believe he did I don't I don't remember that but I know for a fact he lived In Russia. He didn't go to a communist He was part of a Cuban movement like right Liberty for Cuba. I think he went to Cuba. I spent time in Cuba He might have yeah, I don't know he didn't go to Cuba. Okay think he went to Cuba. I think he spent time in Cuba. He might have. Check that out, Jamie. No, he didn't go to Cuba. Okay, well, Jamie will find it.
Starting point is 00:45:47 But the bottom line is he easily could have been working for the government. And he easily could have been a part of the plan. And he easily could have been a guy that they felt maybe was... Yeah. They set him up. Is he still alive? No. He got shot by Jack Ruby a couple days after he shot Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Or allegedly shot Kennedy. Yeah, Jack Ruby shot him. Jack Ruby died of cancer in jail. Not only that, Jack Ruby was a mob guy that was deeply beholden to all these different groups. Which is very weird, right? Why would Jack Ruby, a mob guy,
Starting point is 00:46:18 kill Lee Harvey Oswald in broad daylight while he's being escorted? They were like, well, he felt so bad for Jackie. That doesn't make any sense for our Jim. When you look into it, the JFK story is vast.
Starting point is 00:46:31 It would take you fucking 25 hours to get the gist of the story. Well, people have written books on it. It's so deep. Everybody wanted JFK dead. The CIA wanted him dead. Oh, embassies in Cuba
Starting point is 00:46:43 and the Soviet Union to plot his escape. The mob wanted him dead. So he was in Cuba. Big oil wanted him dead. Everybody wanted him dead. Oh, embassies in Cuba and the Soviet Union to plot his escape. The mob wanted him dead. So he was in Cuba. Big oil wanted him dead. Everybody wanted him dead. He was trying to change the world. He visited embassies in Cuba and the Soviet Union to plot his escape before assassinating John F. Kennedy. I think he was in on it.
Starting point is 00:46:58 That's what I think. For sure he was in on it. Yeah, Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone, but I do believe he was in on it. And I bet he didn't pull the trigger. I bet a bunch of other people pulled the trigger, and I bet he was the guy they set up. Fuck, man. Have you ever been up there? You know who E. Howard Hunt is?
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yes. E. Howard Hunt was in the CIA. He was part of Watergate. He's very big in the CIA. Watergate. He's very big in the CIA. On his deathbed, he says that there was all the assassins from Operation 40.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Operation 40 was a unit that they put together to assassinate Fidel Castro. All these international killers. It's just like the murder incorporated. Operation 40. Yeah, exactly. All these snipers and killers, anti-Castro Cubans.
Starting point is 00:47:51 You know, there were exiled. They all got together. They tried to kill Fidel Castro. Bay of Pigs failed. Because JFK, part of the reason was because JFK didn't want any air support. He didn't want any part of Bay of Pigs, so the CIA felt like they got abandoned by JFK. JFK fires the head of the CIA. So right there, there's a big rift between the CIA and JFK.
Starting point is 00:48:21 The mob hated JFK, too, because they were supposed to protect the mob. Robert Kennedy and JFK but because their dad was a mobster. So they thought they were going to be protected so the mob spent all this money to get JFK in and then he's turning on him and Robert Kennedy, his brother, he's the Attorney General. He's going after the mobs.
Starting point is 00:48:40 They're like, okay, we got to stop these motherfuckers. So when you really, really look into it, a lot of people wanted him dead. Big Oil wanted him dead. They killed him in Texas. Lyndon B. Johnson. Lyndon B. Johnson, the vice president, was about to be indicted for two murders. You know how he stopped that?
Starting point is 00:48:59 JFK got assassinated. He becomes president. He pardons himself. We just went down a deep hole. 1963 was a crazy time. The world was a different place. E. Howard Hunter on his deathbed
Starting point is 00:49:13 said Operation 40, the assassins for Operation 40 were all there. They were all there to watch the big event. They all collaborated. He says this on his deathbed. He was there as a bum. He was one all collaborated. He says it's on his deathbed. But here's even better than that, Eddie. He was there as a bum. He was one of the bums.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's a photograph of him. There's a photograph of him from the arrest. They arrested a bunch of hobos, they said, getting off a plane. They were all killers. They were all assassins. And they've identified some of the guys who were on that train. One of them was fucking the actor.
Starting point is 00:49:44 The fuck's his name? Woody Harrelson's dad. Woody Harrelson. Woody Harrelson's dad. Woody Harrelson's dad was an assassin. Like legitimately an assassin. Isn't that crazy? So E. Howard Hunt on his deathbed. You can watch this at the library on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:49:59 E. Howard Hunt on his deathbed. He said he was bench warming. Just in case something went wrong, there was a bunch of people there. He was getting shot. He was getting lit up from all sorts of angles. Is it possible that the hobos were undercover cops? No, no, the hobos were like undercover.
Starting point is 00:50:16 E. Howard Hunt protection. At least one of the hobos has been identified as a known assassin. E. Howard Hunt. Not just E. Howard Hunt, but there's other guys. People have broken down the photos of the hobos, and they said that this guy is that guy, this guy is known assassin. E. Howard Hunt. Not just E. Howard Hunt, but there's other guys that have, like, people have broken down the photos of the hobos and they said that this guy is that guy, this guy's an assassin.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Like, what they, it seems like they had done was they had planned to kill Kennedy and they planned to do it in Dallas for some reason and they brought in a bunch of different people
Starting point is 00:50:37 to do it. Now, here's where it gets really squirrely. When you find out how many people who were witnesses who testified that they were there
Starting point is 00:50:43 at the shooting wound up dying in really fucked up ways. They wound up dying by murder. They wound up dying in weird car accidents where their fucking brake lines were cut. There was a ton of them. So many of them that someone, I think it might have been Lifton as well, David Lifton, the same guy who wrote Best Evidence. They had some calculation on what the odds are of all these people meeting violent demises
Starting point is 00:51:06 inside of two years. And it was crazy. See if you could find that, young Jamie. Is that the plot from Final Destination? No. How many people see if the amount of people who witnessed the Kennedy assassination who wound up dying under mysterious circumstances. That's some crazy shit, man.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Astronauts saying things. Millions to one. It's like millions to one. If you look at how many people died and what are the odds of them all getting murdered or killed and suicided. Weird suicides, hanging themselves on a fucking coat rack. Weird shit. Yeah, the JFK story is deep as fuck. They killed that guy. Everybody collaborated.
Starting point is 00:51:44 They all agreed we need to get rid of this guy. See, I'm surprised more guys, as they get older and they're on their deathbed, don't tell the truth. Nobody cares. Howard Hunt. There's also plenty of fake stories. All they have to do... Here we go here. Look at this. 100,000
Starting point is 00:52:00 trillion to one. Some have claimed that a large number of witnesses in the event have died in mysterious circumstances. Sunday Times reported that the odds against these witnesses being dead by February 1967 were 100,000 trillion to one. Whoa. Admitted he had made a
Starting point is 00:52:16 careless journalistic mistake in his book Crossfire. Author Jim Mars provides a list of 103 people he claims died in mysterious circumstances between 63 and 76. In reality, most of these people died of natural causes. Some of these people did die in accidents. Others were murdered
Starting point is 00:52:32 or committed suicide. However, these people rarely had information that would have been important in helping. That sounds like an editorialization. I want to know who's right. But I mean, think about it. If you're going to pull off an assassination and then you're all gonna go as a group let's kill everybody around there doesn't
Starting point is 00:52:48 matter that's hard to do that doesn't matter it doesn't matter i don't have you're not looking at that right what what i'm saying is what that guy wrote is an editorialization like that might be correct but it might be wrong too he's making an assumption and he's writing this guess based on that assumption well i mean i don't know how you'd... Okay, so you got all those witnesses. That's really hard. Now you gotta organize all those murders? Good luck. All these different people that were witnesses.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Look at this. Make that a little larger, Jamie, so I can read this shit. Look at this. They all died pretty spaced out. They had a lot of time to talk. Oh, these are all Kennedys that were whacked? Yeah, well, everybody hates the Kennedys, man. They started out... They were killing the game.
Starting point is 00:53:27 They started out as drug runners. They were running moonshine. That's how they started. That's why they made their money. Joe Kennedy. This is deep. And then JFK and the rest of his sons,
Starting point is 00:53:38 they started trying to change the world for real and they're like, uh-uh, that ain't happening. Everybody wanted JFK dead. They knew, they joked around about how they knew what they were trying to do was you know put their lives in jeopardy you know what's really interesting son look at his son the way his son died on that
Starting point is 00:53:54 plane you look into that holy no that guy was coked up man he's coked up and he didn't know what he was doing he was driving into the fog you have to be really good you gotta look into it i did did you really yeah what do you think Eddie? He died with cocaine in his system and he didn't know how to drive the plane. A lot of shady shit. Did they find his body? Yes, they found the plane, they found his body. When people crash, over a hundred murders,
Starting point is 00:54:15 suicides, and mysterious deaths, the strange fate of those who saw Kennedy shot. For sure live, he saw it. See, I'd have to read all these different that's pretty organized he's killed by a karate chop Oswald was coming out saying I'm a patsy
Starting point is 00:54:28 I'm a patsy I'm being set up pa pa pa yeah and then Jack Ruby shoots him on TV and this is Jim Cos was killed by a karate chop
Starting point is 00:54:35 to the throat as he emerged from the shower the Jack Ruby killing that's what makes raises my where I go why would Jack Ruby kill
Starting point is 00:54:42 there's so much why would he assassinate him and then and then just keep his mouth shut and go to jail? What the fuck is that about? That's the part that I think is really weird. I know you're a super expert on JFK
Starting point is 00:54:53 more than I do, but I spent a lot of time on JFK as well. I just let you talk, but I know a lot about, and there's so much. There's people that know way more than me there's i've only read a few people's books the guy that blows me away that the most about jfk who knows he studies all the players all the mob guys involved is a guy named rye dawson he's he's a
Starting point is 00:55:14 fucking jfk encyclopedia dude he knows it's so deep it's like game of thrones times 10 yeah it's hard to tell who's right it isn't just jf, Lee Harvey Oswald, and maybe a couple other assassins. It's so goddamn deep. You could spend a lifetime just studying all the names and how they're all connected. It's crazy. It's super vast. Well, it's unquestionably a mystery. And the idea that it's not is pretty ridiculous to me.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Look at this. Oh, she slipped out. Oh, slippery. Nice grease. That wouldn't Oh, she slipped out. Slippery. Nice grease. It wouldn't happen if she had a nice karate gi on her. Yeah, look at this. She's fighting off her back here. Hey, Eddie, I heard you said I was far left.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Just so you know, I'm so not far left. Oh, I thought you were. No, I'm not far left. No, I thought you were all Hillary-ed out. No, I don't believe in big government or anything. I believe in small government. I thought you were far left. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:04 No, I'm more libertarian. I believe in just maximum personal freedom. Really? Small government, yeah. Total transparency, all that stuff. Okay. Just so you know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:14 No, I know you because you thought because of the Hillary thing, no? That was just more my anti-Trump thing. I don't like Hillary at all. Okay, good. I don't like either one of them. Okay. Just so you know. All right. What is this obsession? And by the way good i don't like i don't like either one of them just say you know all right um and by the way i don't care i just heard somebody said why do people have an obsession
Starting point is 00:56:31 with kung fu being real why do they still make these movies where people do stupid like we know now what works and it seems like for a long time those stupid kung fu movies they died off when the ufc became really popular but the appeal of people who could just like magically make people fly from like a touch to the chest and shit like that it's so romantic to us that we bring it back it was before it was kind of before we could prove that stuff remember like what my I remember it first of all it was Asian right so it was just there was a mystery to being from China there was a mystery from being from China. There was a mystery from being from Japan. The languages were so different from English.
Starting point is 00:57:11 So for us, this idea that they had these secrets, these like touching things and pasture points, and he was so wise and he was so quiet and so humble. We wanted that person to know something. We all as human beings want mystery. This is what all this stuff is about. We all want to be part of a secret group. We all want to be in the know, all of us.
Starting point is 00:57:33 So when somebody is a master of Kung Fu and breaks boards. Can you imagine if there's a tournament, a death touch tournament? Those Bruce Lee movies were incredible. Death touch. That would be hilarious. Those Bruce movies were incredible. Think about Enter the Dragon. That changed people's entire lives. As in, they went, I'm only going to learn karate, and I'm going in that direction.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I'm going to open a school. My whole life's going to be that. And you're going to walk around with that kung fu. Oh, she just head kicked her. Bench Gohei is on queer street right now. She is hurt. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Oh, shit. That head kick. Yeah, that was... Nice. And Renan, she has it, too. She slipped, too. Oh, that was... Nice. And Renan knows she has it, too.
Starting point is 00:58:05 She slipped, too. Oh, that was... Boy, she got wobbled. Damn powerful shoot for that single. Can guys wear skirts, too? Yes. I'd like... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:16 We can cut the sides. Cowboy used to do that. Like Spartan style. Oh, you probably should. I'm going to start doing it. Michael McDonald style. Loose kicking. Melvin Manhoef.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Remember when he used to wear those Gladiator ones? Those are the shit. He does everything hard. Manhoef is so scary. There's videos of Manhoef hitting the pads that make you want to never hit the pads again. There's a video of him playing just piñata with
Starting point is 00:58:41 Robbie Lawler's legs. That's the craziest thing. When he was kicking Robbie Lawler's legs, I was like, oh my God. Robbie won that fight with one punch. Robbie went, and hit him back. Is Mammoth still with Bellator? I believe so. I think so. I think so.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I think he's still doing the damn thing. I think he's kickboxing, too. I think he varies. He goes back and forth. So explosive. Bellator, you know, has the big kickboxing organization, too. So, you know, Gaston Bolaños is going back and forth. He did his MMA debut with Bellator, and then he's going to do a kickboxing fight with. So, you know, like Gaston Bolaños is going back and forth. He did his MMA debut with Bellator,
Starting point is 00:59:07 and then he's going to do a kickboxing fight with Bellator in April. Path of Destruction right there. Oh, the mount. Would you say that kickboxing has more head trauma than boxing? Oh, yeah. It does, huh? Yeah, I would think so. I mean, the thing is, if the kicks land,
Starting point is 00:59:24 the thing is, if there are only three rounds, it probably depends. Some of them are five championship rounds. But the thing about like, it depends if you're Muay Thai or kickboxing. Because Muay Thai, you're definitely getting hit in the head a lot with elbows. I'd say boxing though, Joe. Maybe. I think it's not as true. Look at Betts! Oh! It's true.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Betts Correa is fighting with everything she's got. I would like to see numbers. I would like to see, like, actual impact numbers. Oh, shit! That was not good. The thing is, the potential for getting neck kicked or head kicked is so high. This ref is...
Starting point is 01:00:03 But then it's kind of over if you get head kicked. She's a very... Don't go on taking punishments. That's true. That's a good point. But then the question is like, what kind of head trauma are we talking about?
Starting point is 01:00:11 Are we talking about one big bomb? What's worse? One big bomb or eating like 50 triple G jabs? Eating 50 triple G jabs. I like that.
Starting point is 01:00:19 That's what people die from usually. I like this ref a lot. You think that's better than like... She's letting it go, right? Yeah, let it go. That Gonzaga, Cro Cop head kick? Oh! Dude. 100%.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Dude, she's a ref. Betch Correa is very tough. You've got to respect her heart here. Do you remember when nobody thought that you'd ever see women fight like this? I know. Like, women fights were never really big in boxing. I mean, they kind of. They're still not.
Starting point is 01:00:45 They're still not. You got the gold medal winner. She's awesome to watch. But you had a few that were, like, interesting, like Christy Martin. And then there was Lucia Riker. Lucia Riker was probably one of the best female boxers, probably the best one ever. And then Leila Ali, because she was Muhammad Ali's daughter, she got a lot of press. Riker can hit.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And then there was that other girl, too. Mia St. John. Remember her? What about Christy? What was her name? Christy Martin. Look at this. Look at this back attack.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Powerful. There's just not enough depth, so it never grows. Exactly. You get one girl who dominates, but then they just go away. Oh, and of course, how did I forget Anne Wolfe? Anne Wolfe was probably the scariest knockout artist in women's boxing. I was waiting for you to talk about her. Oh, she's phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Look at that. It's over. And she's a sick coach, too. Amazing coach. But you know what, man? It's just we never saw this many matchups. And you never saw this many matchups. The thing about boxing is you're only really going to see maybe two fights, maybe three.
Starting point is 01:01:44 If you're really going to watch a pay-per-view card do you watch you sit through the whole card do you because if I watch a UFC and there's five fights in the main event like in the main card you're gonna probably watch every fight and be pumped about it that's why UFC does well in a short amount of time has grown so much because there's five entertaining fights you actually know the people you care with boxing like an undercard of a Floyd Mayweather fight, it's usually shit. Like, why is it like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Why not stack it with some good times, man? Well, the UFC, they saw the holes in boxing's promotion game and they capitalized on it. This is the other thing why I think women MMA fighting is bigger than boxing. Look at this shit. Betch Cohea is bridging on her chin. Bridging on her chin. But how much pressure are you allowed to apply? Because you can't strike with your head, right?
Starting point is 01:02:27 Not much. You can put all the pressure you want. But you can't backwards headbutt, Eddie, can you? No, you can't headbutt. Eddie, what do you do here when they have you? Isn't that weird, though? Come on, man. You can headkick somebody, but you can't backwards headbutt them?
Starting point is 01:02:40 Why can't you backwards headbutt them? You can't headbutt at all. I feel like you should be able to backwards headbutt. I feel like you should be able to. You cant. I feel like you should be able to. You can't headbutt him any faster. Hey, you know what? We start that league on that tennis court. We can make that happen.
Starting point is 01:02:50 No football field. Don't you feel like you should be able to backwards headbutt? Then we move it to a tennis court? How come you... Yeah, tennis court size. We compromised. We agreed on that. We felt like there's something that accentuates the view.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Is a tennis court bigger than a basketball court? No. No? No. Basketball court's bigger? Yes. I think basketball court. Basketball court's plenty bigger.
Starting point is 01:03:12 A tennis court is, I believe, 100 feet, right? How long is it? What's bigger, Jamie? I think basketball's longer. Tennis is wider. Jamie, do people ask you questions in real life and ask you to pull that shit up? I've been doing this my whole life. Tennis courts are 78 feet.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Basketball court's 94. Okay, so the brain does work. Stick to the basketball court. Basketball's good. Basketball's good. But here's the thing. Do you think that you should be able, if you're able to elbow someone in the face, why can't you backwards headbutt?
Starting point is 01:03:41 Is someone going to die because you backwards headbutted somebody? Break that nose. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's add it. That's a real technique. I feel like that's a real technique. Do you think headbutt? Is someone going to die because you backwards headbutted somebody? Break that nose. Yeah. That's a real technique. I feel like that's a real technique. Do you think headbutt should be allowed? Yes. You do.
Starting point is 01:03:50 100%. Headbutt. 100%. Elbows to the back of the head? You know what? I feel like if you don't just qualify someone for a neck kick, okay? If you're neck kicking someone and you're getting them back here, if a guy's standing like this and you're coming over the top with a right kick, you are hitting him in the back
Starting point is 01:04:07 of the fucking head. What do you think, Brandon? Headbutt. Headbutt. I'm cool with headbutts. Protect the back of your head. Are there? I'm cool with headbutts.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I'm not cool with if you have someone's back elbow in the back of their head. Just because there's a lot of, there's not a ton of protection back there. I feel like it's all fucking dangerous. It's all dangerous. Yeah, but the back of the head, you can go blind. What about eye gouging? That's a very, very vulnerable part. You're cool with eye gouging?
Starting point is 01:04:29 No. Why not? Because it's permanent damage to the eyeball. So is that? No, not my brain, bro. I don't know if there are basketball arenas on Indian reservations. That's what we need to find out. We can build one.
Starting point is 01:04:42 We're about to take this to Pichanga. Pichanga's got a lot of cash. I We're about to take this to Pechanga. Indian-Demonstrated basketball. Pechanga's got a lot of cash. I think I'm not giving this to Betch Correa. We barely watched this fight. We barely watched this fight. But this end, you've got to remember, they're in majority draw. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:04:59 What? Majority draw. Well, Marion is more excited. She's happy. And Betch Correa is not. A little booty tap there. See that? Oh, there is more excited. She's happy. And Betch Gohea is not. A little booty tap there. See that? Oh, there goes the dance. What is it?
Starting point is 01:05:10 What is it? Powerful in the Quasimodo face. She got beat up. Yeah. That eye is tough. She's thick. A drawl. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yes, sir. Boom. Yes, sir. Yeah, so if we did it, we'd have to do it on an Indian reservation. Yeah. Pechanga. What is the other one? The one right there? You're talking about Mohegan Sun? Yeah, Mo if we did it, we'd have to do it on an Indian reservation. Yeah, Pechanga. What is the other one? The one right there?
Starting point is 01:05:27 You're talking about Mohegan Sun? Yeah, Mohegan Sun. Yeah, we're going to have to go there. They do a ton of fights in Mohegan Sun. Bellator does a bunch of fights in Indian reservations. Yeah, you don't have to test for that. Oh, look at that. We need a basketball arena, though, on an Indian reservation.
Starting point is 01:05:39 She's shender there. I know, let's not get greedy. We can definitely get her to build it. The whole point is it's got to be on a basketball. Well, if you build it, they will come. Let's just build one ourselves. Yeah. Called the Fight Companion Arena.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Well, if you just have it in a basketball-sized flat area at the bottom of their arena, they must have an arena if they're having these events. Now you're talking about WCL, the Chuck Norris show. Look at this. Look at this. You had one in there. You would just have that center area where you have that octagon. Spread it out by at least another seven feet on each side.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Get rid of those seats. And then mat it down. Yeah. Yeah. Mat it down. That's what that place was because this is an Olympic training center where they had a lot of Olympic stuff like wrestling and stuff like that. So you could do that there. The only real issue would be people storming the flat area where the people are competing.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Well, you got to act like a goddamn human. Like they do when I do stand-up. Civil human. I wonder what you would be able to do to stop that, though. Because the thing is, if somebody wanted to charge the octagon, there's a lot of steps. Good luck charging that octagon. Security.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Yeah. I mean, security might work, but if there's actually a mob, like the people sitting right there, if they just wanted to file out onto the court. But that never happens in basketball. It happened once. Because these are fighters. They're savages.
Starting point is 01:06:49 No. Well, the crowd's not going to be savages. We're going to have some nice young men in the crowd. Someone in the audience. Do you remember when Ensign Inouye fought Frank Shamrock? Yeah. And Frank Shamrock, was he fighting Ensign or Egan? Who did he fight?
Starting point is 01:07:03 Ensign. Ensign. Yeah. And he was, that's right, and he was beating him, and they stopped the fight, and Egan jumped into the ring and started attacking Frank Shamrock. When Frank stopped Ensign with a bunch of knees to the face, and then Egan jumped Frank. Now, if that was a flat area, and not like a ring, it could be chaos. Oh, you're talking about Royal Rumble. And then we've got to charge more.
Starting point is 01:07:30 With basketball games, a lot of times at the end people run on the court. College, never NBA. NBA, you can't get on the court. There's too much security. I don't think that's going to be a problem, Joe. Me neither. I think that... You know what? We've got bigger fish to fry ahead. We've got bigger fish to fry. What's the bigger fish? Getting this thing sanctioned, buying a stadium. No, no, no. We have bigger fish to fry. What's the bigger fish? We have to fry. Get this thing sanctioned. Buying a stadium.
Starting point is 01:07:45 No, no, no. We go to an Indian reservation. You could make your own rules at an Indian reservation. Right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right?
Starting point is 01:07:54 Unless they change that. Maybe they changed it. No, we can. No, they can do whatever the fuck they want. We're going to have to pay them a nice royalty bill. They have crazy rules.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Like, here's the thing that drives some people nuts They can hunt whatever they want whenever they want to hunt it and they could do whatever method they want like Indians in Canada They use spotlights to hunt moose. They shine them at night on the moose the moose Don't know what the fuck's going on boom they blast them from the back of ATVs They do all this different shit that you're not allowed to do if you're a regular person your white dude You say yeah, but if you're a name it doesn't matter not allowed to do if you're a regular person. If you're a white dude, you're saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:25 But if you're a, I mean, it doesn't matter if you're white. If you're a black guy, you're not allowed to do it. I'm saying if you're not one of the first natives. It makes sense, though. Yeah. First nation, right? It's their land, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Yeah. Well, sort of. Whoa, bro. Here's the thing. Like, how far are we going back? Because it wasn't their land when it was covered in two miles of ice. Okay? That was just 10,000 years ago.
Starting point is 01:08:45 That was no one's land. But exactly. So who's to say that like- First human land. Well, who knows how it was set out? Who knows who conquered who to establish their domain in that land? Weren't the Spanish here before anybody who was, you know, from the UK? Not before the Native Americans.
Starting point is 01:09:01 No, not before the Native Americans. The Native Americans were here from fucking Siberia. What about the Aztecs? That's all been established too. Don't forget before the Native Americans. The Native Americans were here from fucking Siberia. What about the Aztecs? That's all been established, too. Don't forget about the Aztecs. You're right. But they all wandered here. So really no one knows it.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Exactly. The reality is we are feeling terrible as people that inherited this beautiful place called Los Angeles from some barbarians that at one point in time took it from some other people that were here first. I mean, that's really what it was. We should feel bad for the dinosaurs. It doesn't have anything to do with the people that are there right now. That's my point.
Starting point is 01:09:33 The people that are in those reservations right now, they didn't get anything stolen from them. They were born in 1968. You know what I'm saying? It's like the whole thing is squirrely that you're allowing them to have casinos. They can have cage fights. They can have rooster fights with fucking nuclear weapons attached to their beaks. Aren't Indians allowed to cross the border with just like flashing an ID?
Starting point is 01:09:52 They don't get checked or anything like that? I'd wonder. I don't know. Into Mexico? Into Canada, into the United States, and into Mexico, back and forth. It's really odd that they're allowed to uh just have casinos and just and they also make partnerships with people who aren't native you know and then those guys profit off these casinos too they also get a stipend from the government oh yeah a shit load of money i did
Starting point is 01:10:17 a i did an appearance at an indian reservation they were balling it was the beverly hills of indians they're just all tattooed from the fucking ankles up, full body tattooed. Isn't it crazy too that you still call them Indians? Like, that was a mistake. Like, they were supposed to be they thought they were in India. These dumb motherfuckers. I missed that part of history.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I mean, this is not India. What should we call them then? Native Americans. But they're not even Native Americans. Or Sioux, or Navajo. Ah, well, if we're getting detailed, I couldn't tell you. Comanche, Apache. Look, there were some amazing people, and they did some incredible shit. They were some savages. What does this say?
Starting point is 01:10:56 Once you have proven that you are at least 50% Aboriginal blood, if you were born in Canada, if you have at least 50% Aboriginal blood, you may be entitled to certain rights. Eddie's right. You can cross the U.S.-Canadian border freely. You can live and work in the U.S. Wow. Be eligible for public benefits such as Medicaid, supplemental security income, Medicare, unemployment benefits, and other public assistance,
Starting point is 01:11:18 provided you meet the appropriate agency guidelines. You can register for college or university in the United States as a domestic student rather than a foreign student. Wow. Interesting. That's huge. Yeah, man. You do not have to register for the military.
Starting point is 01:11:33 You do not have to obtain a work permit. You do not have to be processed for an alien registration card, also known as green card. The U.S. government cannot deport you. They cannot exclude you from entry, and they cannot deny you services. Damn, they run shit. Dope. Does anyone have an Indian in them? You have some Indian in them.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yep, I want some. 50% Mohawk. T-Mobile Arena reserves June 10 for Mayweather McGregor. Yes. Good googly moogly. It's fucking happening. How is that going to happen? What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:12:03 You think the UFC and Mayweather come to an agreement? Yes, that's what's happening. Because T-Mobile in Vegas is in cahoots with the UFC. I guarantee the UFC's involved. But the report, who knows who made that report? Pretty legit. You might have did it on the way over here. I might have.
Starting point is 01:12:19 I might have. I think it's going to happen, man. Wow, you really think so? I really do. And you're asking me commentating it so let's just figure this out now you want to talk to you just what are you doing probably companion with me i don't know man i don't know what i'm doing well if you're not commentating we need you a giant companion for it and yeah that would celebrate the shit
Starting point is 01:12:40 out of it i would prefer that honestly june 10th j June 10th. It's about to get real. Not if my man Mayweather throws you that TMT money. Hmm. I don't think they really care about me commentating. They'd probably want Max Kellerman or the boxing people to do it. Max Kellerman and you? It would be fun. I would love to do it with them. But it's a boxing
Starting point is 01:13:00 match. You know, that's their world. Yeah. I mean, if it was an MMA match and he was sitting down next to me doing commentary you know that I think that would be a little odd too not it not if Floyd was just doing boxing in the octagon you know I'm saying well no no I'm saying if it the roles were reversed like I think you could talk about moving Connors history cuz they they're not gonna know shit let's be right they're gonna be like you know Shane Sharp talking about UFC it's right to listen to it let's be real. They're going to be like, you know, Shane Sharp talking about UFC. It's tough to listen to.
Starting point is 01:13:26 It's going to be good to have someone who's knowledgeable, break down, like, Conor's history, how he came here, how he got his movement, what he's known for. I think that's super important. You have to have a guy with UFC knowledge. For people who don't watch UFC. Yeah, because you're getting a shitload of new boxing. You know what's up.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Sounds better. Hanging out with you guys, smoking weed, watching it right here. That sounds so much better. I just want my dear friend Joe Rogan to be part of the biggest fight of combat in history. Fans tune in. Hanging out with you guys, smoking weed, watching it right here. That sounds so much better. I just want my dear friend Joe Rogan part of the biggest fight of combat in history. I'm good. I'd like to sit right here. You're crazy. You don't think that's the biggest fight in history?
Starting point is 01:13:53 I'll live tweet it. You think it's the biggest fight in history? Bigger than Ali, Frazier? Yes. Number-wise, yeah. Yeah, it's the biggest fight ever. Biggest pay-per-view ever. Because it brings in two worlds.
Starting point is 01:14:02 It brings in the UFC world and this one guy who's unquestionably the biggest star in the UFC. Unquestionably, by a long shot. And then you bring in a guy who has been one of the biggest money makers in the history of boxing. Changed the game. The only guy to go 49-0 other than Rocky Marciano. I mean, he's like right there and we'd love to break Rocky Marciano's record. And then, you know what, man? When people want to do things like break someone's record, and you want to do it so bad that
Starting point is 01:14:27 you take on a guy who's never had a boxing match before, and then that guy starches you. It'd be so sick. It'd be so sick. I mean, it's not likely. If he does that, I'm going to build a shrine to him and pray to it every day. There's something about that dude, man. I'm telling you, there's something about that dude. He's got something going on.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Magic. He's got a little something extra special, but he would need everything to line up. It would have to be the McGregor. Mayweather would have to dismiss him as a threat. He'd have to not train hard enough. He'd have to not seriously consider the possibility that Conor connects on him and knocks him out. Right. And then Conor would have to do some roughhousing.
Starting point is 01:15:05 He'd have to hold him in the clinch. He'd have to hold him and knocks him out. And then Connor would have to do some roughhousing. He'd have to hold him in the clinch. He'd have to hold him and hit him. He'd have to try to get off as many shots and bully him around and wear him out. It's a possibility. It's a possibility. He's a much bigger man. He's a much bigger man. Quick too for how big he is. Very, very quick. But if you compare the two of them
Starting point is 01:15:21 frame-wise, if they ever do do it and they're standing right at each other looking down at each other, doing eye to eye you're going to go, oh shit. Yeah, Conor's way bigger. Because you remember when Eddie Alvarez was going eye to eye with Conor and you realize how big Conor's head is? You're like, Jesus Christ. Just a bigger dude. From
Starting point is 01:15:37 shoulders, his legs. He's a big fuck. I mean, he can make that 145 pound cut when he's on death's door. But Mayweather makes it easy. What are they going to fight at? 45? That's a good question. No. Mayweather was fighting at 154 his last few fights. So I bet they do it at like 55,
Starting point is 01:15:53 60 maybe. Maybe. Depends on what Mayweather's comfortable with. But I think in Dana White, you want to be part of that fight if you're Dana White. You want to be in cahoots with all these guys with Mayweather, Floyd, Conor. Or you don't want the fight to take place at all. And look, he got fucked because Nurmagomedov got sick making that weight.
Starting point is 01:16:13 If Nurmagomedov didn't get sick making that weight, then Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson, Dana White did. Oh, okay. I thought you said Conor did. No, the UFC did. Because look, the real fight is the winner of Tony Ferguson and Habib Nurmagomedov. In the UFC. Right. So that's the real fight is like being a big challenge for Conor and that could be a million
Starting point is 01:16:33 plus pay-per-view box. As a purist. Right. Especially if you either have that fight or the better fight financially is another fight with Nate Diaz. No, the better fight financially is Mayweather. Oh yeah, for boxing. Not even close. Not the same for Con for boxing. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:16:45 For sure. I'm not saying for Conor. Oh, no, no, no. For sure. For sure. For Conor as a business, that's by far the best fight to go. 100% agree with you. What do you think he's going to make?
Starting point is 01:16:51 What I'm saying is- 20 million? Way more than that. Oh, excuse me, sir. Conor? 100 million. Probably 100. 100 million each.
Starting point is 01:16:57 And Floyd, too? Ray Borg looks good as fuck, man. He's so fast. Will they- Khabib and Tony are going to fight again, though, right? Aren't they? Hopefully. Tony wants to do it in a catchweight. Hopefully.
Starting point is 01:17:07 But here's the thing, man. Khabib might not be able to make that weight. No, that's what... And, you know, since Kelvin missed weight a couple times and Dana forced him to fight at 185, I mean, it makes sense that Dana goes, dude, you got to do 170 at least once or twice. But Tony will go up in weight to fight him. Well, he only missed weight once. Twice.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Twice. Isn't Tony a huge 55 pounder? He's tall, but he's not bulky. Tony's like 5'10", 5'11". Tony's built perfect for the division. Tony's perfect at 55. He's got
Starting point is 01:17:42 a lot of muscle, even though he's long. He's very strong. He's excellent in the of muscle, even though he's long. He's very strong. He's excellent in the clinch. I was looking forward to that fight so much. Broke my heart. Broke my heart. How big is Khabib? Has Khabib got a huge frame?
Starting point is 01:17:53 He's a tank. No, he doesn't have a nutritionist. He's not that tall. He's not being professional about it. He's thick as fuck. Did you hear what Tony told him? I mean, to get down to 155. When they're doing media, and Khabib was saying something like,
Starting point is 01:18:05 why do you got your sunglasses on? He's like trying to say something about his shins. He's like, good luck with that weight cut. Yeah, I hear him breathing. He goes, your cardio sucks. Yeah. He goes, your cardio sucks. That's what Tony said to him?
Starting point is 01:18:16 Yeah. Do they have to make it at 55? Because what do you do with that fucking, that interim title? What do you do? He said have fun making weight. Because if Conor does fight Floyd, what the,
Starting point is 01:18:25 we can't just fucking hang at 55. But don't you think that that's the fight that has to be made in that division, right? Could be Tony. But if he can't make 155, he can.
Starting point is 01:18:35 He needs to get real and get a fucking dietitian. I don't know what happened to him. We don't eat tiramisu the week of. I know that. He did. On Embedded, Tony even tweeted out, like, for sure don't fucking eat tiramisu.
Starting point is 01:18:47 He really ate tiramisu? It was on Embedded video. Whoa. Tony smelled it. He was like, have fun making weight. Wow. I hear you huffing and puffing. Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:57 But you have to make that fight, and Khabib can do it. He's made it before without killing himself. Yeah, but we don't know what happened when he had to go to the fucking hospital. They said he was in massive pain. We also know he didn't go through Dr. Davidson. You're right. But Luke Rockhold said something. There was some quote that I had read.
Starting point is 01:19:14 God damn it. See what they said about what did Habib's Corner list as the official issue that was happening to him. He was six pounds overweight, right? Yes. When he went to the hospital. That's huge. That's so heavy. You're so heavy when your body's shutting down. Like, you're six pounds
Starting point is 01:19:35 away and your body's shutting down. But you know that coming in the week of the fight. Yeah, but obviously he fucked up with his discipline if he's eating tiramisu. If that's true, that's even more disappointing. Maybe he just had a bite, but either way, you don't have a, and I'm not saying it's the answer, you don't have a Mike Dolce
Starting point is 01:19:52 or one of these guys who are helping you with your diet, right? But either way, Tony's down to go up and wait to fight him. It makes sense for Tony. It makes sense for Tony, meaning he wants to fight this guy, but for the division, it's so weird. It's like, well, what is this guy? It fucks the division.
Starting point is 01:20:06 What is this guy? He puts the entire division on hold. The fight's bigger than what the division looks like. That fight needs to happen. I agree. That's fair. I agree. Yeah, I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:20:14 I want to see that fight. And there's all this other shit going on. Mayweather and Conor. All this other shit. Yeah, GSP, Bisping. Here it goes. Here it goes. Medical.
Starting point is 01:20:21 It says weight management, medical issues. He was treated and has been discharged. That doesn't say what the issue is. It's the official U.S. See if you could find out. I feel like I read an article that was interviewing Luke Rockhold. Rockhold was talking about what happened to Huffy. It's on library.gov.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Did you see Dana, though? He goes, if you would have, we maybe could have saved it. Oh, he's drinking. Who gave him a beer? This isn't beer. What is it? It's a root beer. It's him a beer? This isn't beer. What is it? It's a root beer. Oh, it's a rut beer.
Starting point is 01:20:48 We almost fucked up. Root free. It's like someone gave the gremlin water after midnight. No, but Dana was saying. I panicked. What is it? One beer. Oh, it is a beer.
Starting point is 01:20:59 I'm having one now. It's one beer. And he's doing it, and I'm doing it. It's one beer. It's Brian. Why you got a copy? I got a copy, bro. You can't leave a guy drinking by himself.
Starting point is 01:21:09 And that was the moment the wheels fell off the podcast. Okay, here it is. This is what I read. Habib wasn't getting any blood to his liver. This is what Luke Rockhold says. Look, that is fucking real bad. So scroll down and let's see what Luke Rockhold has to say. It says the weight cut wasn't going very well.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Khabib was complaining about a pain in his side. We had to cut short the weight cut and sure enough it gets worse overnight and he had to go to the hospital. Unfortunate. This is the fight I was really looking for. From what I understand he wasn't getting any blood to his liver and something went wrong with his weight cut. It's very similar to his last fight what I understand
Starting point is 01:21:43 and just something went wrong. You never know with these weight cuts, I guess. But I think he's ready to go and we can rebook this. What? Is he? He wants to get any blood to his liver? No, he's a training partner. He's a AKA guy.
Starting point is 01:21:56 He's a 100-pound heavier training partner. Oh. Okay. Yeah. Well, obviously. They're from the same gym, yes. I mean, it obviously ain't 100 pounds. When that fight happens.
Starting point is 01:22:05 No, you know what I'm saying? He's a big dude. What does he walk around at? Khabib? Yeah. They're from the same gym, yes. I mean, it obviously ain't 100 pounds. When that fight happens. No, you know what I'm saying? He's a big dude. What does he walk around at? Khabib? Yeah. Shit. I don't know. I don't want to misspeak.
Starting point is 01:22:11 I'd assume high 70s. Yeah. Looks like it, right? Yeah. And he ain't fat. No. They got to make that fight, man. Yeah, that's the fight.
Starting point is 01:22:19 I'd say that's the maddest I've ever been when a fight fell through. Like when John and Chael thing, I really wasn't that mad. There's been other fights. John, thing i really wasn't that mad there's been other fights uh john dc i wasn't that upset this one i was pissed man i was really upset tony was on fire his camp everything was perfect he was such a good fight now tell me um if you're allowed to speak about this i don't know if you are but there's been a lot of complaints about his pay like what what exactly did happen, if you could clarify, since you were training him? I don't know the specifics. Because I heard he was very upset.
Starting point is 01:22:54 What I've been reading was that he was very upset that he didn't even get his show money. It's like this. If you were getting $10,000 to show, $10,000 to win, and you made weight and your opponent doesn't make weight, just give him the show money. It's $10,000. But when it's like big money and your opponent can't make weight, then we're not going to give you all that money. I feel like it should be insured. I feel like it should be insured, and that's why it's confusing to me. It's frustrating for Tony. I don't know exactly what went down. I don't know exactly what went down.
Starting point is 01:23:27 I know there was that issue. Will he still get that show money? I don't know if he got it or he got half or something like that. I don't really get into it. Tony's right, though, on that, because he did all the necessary steps. He went through training camp. It's not his fault Khabib didn't fucking make weight. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:43 If he suffers from it, you can't have that. If a fighter doesn't make weight, the other fighter should be insured. Maybe it was a deal like this or something. I don't know. But maybe it was a deal. We'll give you $250 to show or whatever to win or something like that. Something big.
Starting point is 01:23:59 But we're offering that if the fight happens. If for some reason your opponent in small print doesn't make the fight, you're not going to get that show money. It's like if the fight happens. I feel like they have to do something. The UFC would be smart on their end to structure something like that, right? They need a guaranteed person. You'd see better fights.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I feel like you need to make a person who does not make the weight get a loss. That's what I think. That's what I'm fucking saying. It should be a loss. I feel like it's a loss. And I feel like there's no fight And I feel like the other guy gets paid There's only one way to stop it
Starting point is 01:24:29 You gotta punish people Tony's Christian advance Yes But you know what You gotta make it a loss Because the fighter didn't make weight Correct Even though Tony
Starting point is 01:24:37 Just why do you have four glasses there One drink That's it He's only having one No no no He already had a beer We only have one Gremlins Remember Remember the movie?
Starting point is 01:24:46 You give the little cute things water. Callan. They turn into devils. Eddie is very constrained. Callan. You're fucking up. This goes into chemtrails and Operation Thunderfoot. It's 555, people.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Once he takes that and we start talking about Kennedy and who did it. We already did it. I'm sorry. I want to get more into it. I'm so interested in that. We're not even watching this awesome Ray Borg fight. He's one of the few flyweights in this division that is a real interesting candidate for fighting Mighty Mouse. And for me, he's a tough motherfucker, man.
Starting point is 01:25:17 This is a good fight. Number three in the world. People just write him off because he also got destroyed by DJ. But number three in the world really doesn't lose. DJ is just something special. DJ, if you're listening, you've got to do super fights. I'm sick of seeing you fight at that weight. We've got to move on, man.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Dominic Cruz, do you hate money? I don't know what it is, man. I don't know what it is, but I feel like I want to see him clean out that division. Keep cleaning it. And just keep doing it? Look, I think... You, me, and 75,000 other people are watching. I think there's plenty of fights
Starting point is 01:25:47 for Dominic Cruz or anybody else at 135. Between Cody Garbrandt, TJ Dillashaw, I mean, Lineker is much less attractive. Dillashaw exposed him. Dillashaw pretty much kind of clowned him. Yeah, he did. God damn, Dillashaw was good in that fight. Dude, Dillashaw, Garbrandt? What?
Starting point is 01:26:04 What do you think happened in that fight? That's big. Tell you what, man. I would have had one opinion of what would happen in that fight before the Cruz fight, before Cody fought Cruz. But after Cody fought Cruz, he looked so fucking good. You outclassed him. I was like, Jesus Christ, he's good.
Starting point is 01:26:22 And he hits like a tank. He hits like a tank. He's fast as fuck. His boxing is laser's good. And he hits like a tank. He hits like a tank. He's fast as fuck. His boxing is laser beam accurate. And he's getting better. And it wasn't that close to the fight. He's getting better. He outclassed Dom.
Starting point is 01:26:33 And then you see, you can't do MMA math, but I'm going to do it here. You got Dom and TJ. It was a battle. Something TJ won. I don't know, man. I just feel like Garbrandt, he's like a little Chuck Liddell of that weight class. Like, he lands, you're fucking in trouble, man, so fast. I thought your podcast with Dominic was amazing.
Starting point is 01:26:49 I really have so much respect for that guy. He's so intelligent about sort of fighters' mind and dealing with injuries. But his injury, like the amount of injuries he had to deal with are crazy. Yeah. Like the tendon pulling off his heel in the fight. Woo! Crazy shit. You guys have by far.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Formiga just landed a beautiful. Oh, man, this fight is fucking hot, man. Yeah, it is. Formiga landed a beautiful leg kick, and Ray Borg came back with a leg kick of his own and a spinning back fist behind it. I'd like Borg to get a win there. Borg's a bad motherfucker. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 01:27:19 He's a bow hunter. Big time. Jackson's fella. After his fight, he called out John Dudley. He just said, I wanted to be on your podcast, and I want to go bowhunting with you. He's a bowhunting fanatic. Damn. GCA, he doesn't get enough credit because he's out in Brazil doing things.
Starting point is 01:27:39 He's small. DJ barely gets enough credit. So all these guys, it's a tough go for them. It's a tough go. That's why DJ just needs to, I think, start doing super fights. Give him TJ. Give him Dom. Let's do it. Isn't it crazy, though, that 35's got so much
Starting point is 01:27:52 hype behind it, and 25 has almost none? Because we just don't care about those tiny, tiny guys. But it's 10 pounds difference. 25 and 35. Isn't that funny? I know, but I know they're so small. As long as there's someone smaller than you, we'll pay attention. It's like what we need is a strawweight men's division.
Starting point is 01:28:08 And then DJ would be like, these little motherfuckers over here. These little bitches. Fighting these little tiny 115 pounds. I just, I don't know what DJ's waiting for. Maybe they're not offering him or whatever. Well, he's got to hit Wilson Hayes in his next fight. And after the Wilson fight, like. Then what do we do?
Starting point is 01:28:23 You know. Who's Borg? Don't the new owners of the UFC. If he wins this one? fight and after the Wilson fight like then what do we do? Who's the fight? Don't the new owners of the UFC have the power to create stars? Don't they pretty much like Hollywood? Well you gotta win.
Starting point is 01:28:36 You don't have to be undefeated. It's not boxing. You just have to be a blow up personalities. The smaller guys. Put them in TV shows. Personality has to be there. People have got to be able to talk. Maybe they're there and we just haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:28:53 DJ's got a fun personality. He's great on podcasts. He's a fun dude. It's just people, for whatever reason, haven't appreciated what they're seeing. Look at Chocolicito in boxing. They think he's, if you talk to any boxer, he's the best in the world. He fights on Triple G's card.
Starting point is 01:29:10 The pay-per-view, I think, is next weekend. Does anyone, if he came here right now, no one would know who he is. Formiga. I think TJ is the most exciting fighter. Oh, what a scramble. Oh, shit. Ray Borg all over it. Look at this. He's 25.
Starting point is 01:29:27 25ers are mad dogs, man The pace is so insane Don't you think that TJ is the most exciting fighter to watch? TJ or DJ? TJ Dillashaw No, no, definitely not No, he's not the most exciting fighter in the world to watch But he's one of the best He's definitely one of the best
Starting point is 01:29:41 He's so unorthodox He's just so, I mean Did you see Cody Garbrandt? Yeah Dominic Cruz? Yeah, but Did you see Cody Garbrandt? Yeah Dominic Cruz? Yeah but Did you see Rumble Johnson? Yeah but I'm saying exciting
Starting point is 01:29:48 Like just He's from angles And just movements And I don't know man He's just Oh he's excellent His pace No he's great
Starting point is 01:29:54 He's one of the best in the world There's no doubt about it And if he can beat Cody He's in my pound for pound top five Fuck yes Exactly And I think he was When he beat Burau the second time,
Starting point is 01:30:06 I was like, we'll make an argument for someone who's higher up the top. Oh, look at that back take. Beautiful. That was high level off the cage, that back take. He took that back and immediately went to the body triangle. The squeeze. Everybody does that now. Everybody goes to the squeeze.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Especially their camp. Think about it. He's with Aldo and freaking Burrell. Yeah. It's crazy that that was a rare move. That the body triangle was a rare move taking the back. Not really. Jean-Jacques did it in Abu Dhabi in the late 90s to everybody. That's true. But it was in the UFC. It was pretty rare
Starting point is 01:30:36 up until Ivan Salivary did it to And I didn't start doing it and putting into my game heavily until Jean-Jacques came back from Abu Dhabi and I felt like why did you keep doing a triangle cross? How come you kept holding him like that? Because he never really did that in class. He was just straight hooks. And he said,
Starting point is 01:30:52 man, so greased. So much grease. They're slipping. So I had to lock their hips or they would have slipped out. And that's all I need. When Jean-Jacques says something, you don't question it. You just can pretty much bank on it. That's the way to go. Anything he's ever told me to do any kind of direction he's pointed me in
Starting point is 01:31:08 boom I go right to it you know who I bet has the most body lock time in the UFC and you can I don't know who would track it I would bet Anderson Silva does if you think about with Travis Luter Dan Henderson that motherfucker spends a ton of time there a ton if you think about his fights
Starting point is 01:31:24 when they go to the ground it's so hard to get out of man I've never seen anybody get out of it spends a ton of time there. A ton, if you think about his fights, when they go to the ground. It's so hard to get out of, man. I've never seen anybody get out of it. Did he get Travis Luter's back? Yes. He triangled it. He triangled it. I don't remember it.
Starting point is 01:31:34 From the bottom. He was on the bottom. You're working your chokes, right? Did he? Travis mounted him, I know. But it's exhausting. Isn't it hard to breathe and stuff? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:31:43 That was my best example for the longest time of a guy that was on death's door was Travis when he didn't make weight for the Anderson Silva fight. Title fight. Yeah. Didn't make weight. Ray Bork tried to escape. Tried to escape. He made it.
Starting point is 01:31:53 He spun. The grease. He tied the triangle. He still spun. The grease in the way. Yep. And also being a really tiny guy. And sweaty as fuck in the third round with two minutes left.
Starting point is 01:32:03 These guys move so fast and they don't get fucking tired. That's crazy. They can just go all day. The game is just so different for them. But they get tired too, man. Remember when Ali Bagutinov fought DJ and DJ outworked him and then it turns out that he was on EPO? Those are some big outbursts right there. If you're 125 and you're on EPO, probably not for you.
Starting point is 01:32:21 This probably ain't the game for you. Ray Borg is landing some big shots right here. Ray Borg is no joke, man. But neither is Formiga. No, Formiga gets no credit. Oh, damn. Oh, these are hard. He busted his face off.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Is this Anderson Travis Lewis? Oh, he's busted open. He's triangling him from the bottom. Oh, shit. And he's holding the back of his neck. He's letting him have that arm bar. Look at that. He's letting him have that left arm.
Starting point is 01:32:42 He should swing. He's holding on to his neck. That's how Randy Couture got arm barred Look at that. He's letting him have that left arm. He should swing. He's holding on to his neck. That's how Randy Couture got arm barred against Ensign. Just holding on that neck. He's not doing it anymore now. Right there already? He should swing? Right there, too.
Starting point is 01:32:51 He has it. It's open. He should be swinging. Oh, he just got cut open. You see that splatter that just came off him? Great elbow. Ooh. Dude, look how bloody the mat is.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Oh, shit. Oh, he's cutting him with his elbows. Oh, look at that. He went for it. At least he's out of that spot. Gotta give this to Borg. Look at this that spot. Gotta give this to Borg. Look at this, though. Gotta give this to Borg.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Borg immediately goes back to the back mount. Wow. And Borg's jiu-jitsu is high level. His transitions are sick. His transitions and those fucking elbows from the top position are so scary. Dude, for me, though, he's trying to flatten them. Arm triangle right there. He should just close it off.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Well, his arm's not under yet. He could have just put it there. Right. But the other guy's got wrist control. Is he going to slide him out? No. Oh. Scramble.
Starting point is 01:33:30 He still has it right there. And he still has that opportunity for the elbows. He should turn to twist or pass free the knee and then slice to three-quarter mount just like Damien Lye does. Ten seconds left. But this speed of these exchanges is what you're really supposed to be looking for in MMA. Look at that. Oh, he's going for the choke. There it is.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Five seconds left. He's got to go for it. A tough guy to choke. Wow. These guys at this weight class are so fucking amazing. This is what MMA is supposed to be. It's supposed to be like movements without any physical limitations. You know, like you just can't move at this pace if you weigh 300 pounds.
Starting point is 01:34:04 But also at heavyweight, the lighter the reason why we like kicks is it can end at any given moment These, chance of them getting finished aren't great Yeah I mean except for Cody who knocks guys out with one shot At 135%? Yeah at 135 Well then that also is one, I mean DJ's knocked out a people at 25, and he knocked out Benavidez with one punch. Benavidez is bad. But the reality is it's way more rare, that weight class, to see a one-shot KO.
Starting point is 01:34:33 And that's why it's not as big as a draw. Yeah. But it's also why those guys exchange many more techniques. They're not going to be able to finish each other off with one shot, so everybody's much more technical oriented. Way more technical, way more technical yeah you have to be like if you look at these two guys oh my scrambles they're so technical if you had the skills that heavyweight or 205 is either one of these guys you'd be the greatest oh my god could you imagine if there was a fucking heavyweight that moved like ray borg that would be insane
Starting point is 01:34:58 be scary he'll be the greatest of all time yeah like ray borg is a top 10 contender for sure but he hasn't got a shot at the title yet. If he was a heavyweight, he'd be the greatest of all time. You wonder if there's anybody who's, like if there are any athletes in the other sports who have that kind of explosion, speed, dexterity.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Well, Jiu-Jitsu, Boucher is the guy. Take a Westbrook, Russell Westbrook. If he trained MMA, Russell Westbrook. If he had trained MMA since he was 17, it's a chance he could be a guy that big with that kind of speed. For sure. They're out there. They're just not interesting to get punched in the face.
Starting point is 01:35:34 They can make way more money playing football. And also, they probably started doing that sport when they were a little kid. They got amazing at it. And for them to transfer over to MMA. In 20 years, you'll see a guy like that. Oh, yeah, for sure. Maybe not the heavier weights. They're going to have to want to do it.
Starting point is 01:35:50 That's the thing. The pay's going to have to bring the parents to do it, too. Right. I think Anthony Johnson could play NFL. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? No, not right now. But if he played football in high school and in college,
Starting point is 01:36:03 he's got the frame and the height. He'd be a safety. It's a lot of speculation. That's like saying if Ray Lewis was a kickboxer, he'd be a world champion. What I'm saying is you guys are talking about these athletes that are somehow coming in the future. We already got a few of them. We got Jon Jones. Jon Jones can do that.
Starting point is 01:36:21 No, Jon Jones wouldn't be a professor in any other sport. Isn't that funny? He could not play... Ask him about... He ran the 40. He ran like a 4.9 or 5 flat. His brothers, on the other hand, his brothers are beasts. It's just a different set of skills.
Starting point is 01:36:34 It's just... It's hard to compare apple and oranges. But the same... It's the same... You know, he's so athletic, right? John Jones? For fighting. Yes, but that translates to...
Starting point is 01:36:44 In the NFL? No, just a guy. Well, you know what, man? It's like, how john john for fighting yes but that translates in the nfl no just well you know what man it's like how much time did he dedicate towards that how much time did he dedicate towards wrestling and yeah but if you run a 40 or let's just say a sprint if you went against a guy who was he weighed 220 pounds if you just ran a sprint against a division one football guy smoking the shit out of him that's just right that's pure athleticism but he played football, maybe he puts on a lot of muscle and a lot of weight. He gets slower. He plays a defensive end. Maybe a defensive end.
Starting point is 01:37:10 You don't have to be that fast playing the line. Oh, these days you do. Yeah, D.N. you do. How far can they – do they run 4.740s? Yeah, oh, shit. Defensive linemen on average? J.J. Watts, 290 pounds runs a 4.6. At the end, those guys are – you're talking about freaks.
Starting point is 01:37:23 In the online, they just had a 370-pound guy run a 4.7 for you. No way. 370. Did you see this? He's a lineman. Just think about what that's like if you're standing next to that guy. That's scary. Wide receivers run 4.7s.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Jamie, look, that guy, he's a lineman, 370. He ran a 4.7. Keenan McArdle did. It's so crazy. Think about what that would feel like. What do you think you're dealing with? Think about what that would feel like to be on the field while that guy runs by you. That's why he's MVP. It's so crazy. Think about what that would feel like. What do you think you're dealing with? Think about what that would feel like to be on the field while that guy runs by you.
Starting point is 01:37:47 That's why he's MVP. Look at these elbows. But I mean, if you could stand there like right next to him as he's sprinting, just let him run by you so you can just feel the force of almost 400 pounds running faster than you ever could hope to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Launching his enormous body down the track. They find that guys who are that big and that fast actually end up getting injured faster. So bigger and faster in the NFL, according to sports science, is not
Starting point is 01:38:20 always better because you get injured faster. Well, I would imagine your soft tissue could only take so much. They're talking about the biggest guys? Yeah, apparently they did a thing where you get huge dudes who are really fast and somehow they don't last as long as somebody who's
Starting point is 01:38:35 because it's physics, right? So because your body can only take so much. It depends on the position and depends on the guy for sure. Well, it's also the sport itself is so fucking ruthless on your body. I mean, it just breaks you. How much career? Three and a half years.
Starting point is 01:38:51 Yeah, the injury rate is 100%. Somebody said that in the NFL. Everybody's injured. Well, it depends on injury. I had Arian Foster on the podcast this week, and one of the things he said is if my kids wanted to play football, I'd be like, fuck that. You're not playing football.
Starting point is 01:39:04 He goes, I didn't bust my ass to get get to this position watch you do that shit wow yeah i can see how he says that you're talking that that guy was a freak oh yeah he's a freak he's amazing he's a fucking monster he's amazing super freak and he was like i'm tired of aaron foster he led the league in russian for a lot of years and yeah he he was retired because he wanted to. He had a bunch of injuries and he was like, I don't want to do this anymore. He's only 30, right? He's young. He's in his prime. He's in his fucking prime right now.
Starting point is 01:39:33 30 and he decided, I'm done. For running back, it's time to go at 30. He's a smart dude. He's not completely motivated by money. He's not motivated by fame. He also got paid, so it's easier to say that when you have money in the bank. He's hanging back. But he's also being smart about being paid.
Starting point is 01:39:49 He doesn't have like $500,000 worth of jewelry on him. He's not being an asshole. You wonder what LeBron James would be like in the heavyweight division. He's too big. He's too big. 265. He could get down to 265. How much does he weigh?
Starting point is 01:40:05 No, I think LeBron's 250 now. 253 or something, right? I wonder what his jab would look like. He got on some weird diet and lost a lot of weight. What'd you say, Jamie? I was saying, yeah, as an older guy now, he's kind of a little bit thinner. Yeah, he's like 250, 240. Keto comes up if you Google him.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Is he the best all-time LeBron James? He's a keto kid? I don't know if he is officially, but his picture comes up when you kind of Google something like that. The best all time? LeBron? LeBron? No, Michael Jordan. Still better?
Starting point is 01:40:28 Oh, yeah. What does he have to do to surpass him? Nothing. There's nothing happening. What if he wins like five more championships? Still? No, because you know why? Because he only wins championships when he forms these super teams.
Starting point is 01:40:40 You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a bitch move. The Bulls had a super team, too, man. Pippen and all those guys. Yeah, but at the time, Jordan was still a beast, you know? You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a bitch move. The Bulls had a super team, too, man. Pippen and all those guys. Yeah, but at the time, Jordan was still a beast, you know? Like, he didn't ask for all that stuff, and they drafted these guys. It wasn't like he was like, oh, Magic, come play with me.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Larry, come play with me. Well, the first few years, Jordan didn't do, he didn't win a ring until, what, the sixth year, seventh year, something like that? Yeah, still a monster, though, you know? Better question is, of course. Look at this. Look, look, look, look, look. Look at this. Bam. Dude, that is on the cheek.
Starting point is 01:41:04 That is 100% heel to cheek. 100% heel to cheek. By the way, what's his name with the red hair? Felder. Way worse. Felder? Felder. Paul Felder.
Starting point is 01:41:13 He's a badass. Is he still fighting? See, that's worse to me. No, no, no. That fucking... See, with the one with Terry Edom, it just looks like it's not as bad because he stiffens up and on impact, his head doesn't snap back but it's because he was dead out from the impact of the heel to the cheek.
Starting point is 01:41:34 So muscular. 100%. I'll take your word for it. It was horrible. If you watched a video of him getting wheel kicked in the back, you see Ari. Ari stands up like this. You can see the wheel kick land and Ari's in the background
Starting point is 01:41:48 probably on acid. What are you watching? This is the amazing athlete. He's not 370. This guy was 307, ran a sub five this year. This guy is 306 and he ran a 465.
Starting point is 01:42:04 306 pounds? 306 and he ran a 465. Jesus Christ. Wait, wait, wait. 306 pounds? He's 306, and he ran a what? 465. Oh, my God. That's wide receiver. Watch him again. Watch this guy do this. This is insanity.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I mean, he's in. What position is this guy going to play? O-line. O-line. He'll be a tackle. Hey, what college are you from, do you say? That's a weird symbol. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Holy shit. Maybe it was 307, not the 370. Holy shit. Was this recent? Yeah, not the 370. Holy shit. Was this recent? Yeah, this was a couple years ago. Oh, okay. No, there was a guy who recently did some crazy shit. That's incredible.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Although, I had seen this guy. That's wide receiver speed at 300 pounds. Yeah, now think about this. Look at him. He should play defense. Fuck that offense. He might. They could use his speed on defense.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Playing offensive lineman, you don't need speed that much. I wonder if that guy's still in the NFL. What'd you snack on there, you don't need speed that much. I wonder if they got still on the NFL. What'd you snack on there, Joe? Imagine that guy running after you. He could play middle linebacker with that speed. Imagine him right there in the middle. Some guy ran the fastest
Starting point is 01:42:58 one ever, I think, right? Yeah, from Washington. 4-2-2. And how about this? You know if he broke the record, well, Adidas gave this challenge. They go, anyone who breaks the record, they're going to give you an island of your choice and a million dollars, but you have to do an Adidas. This fool ran in Nike, so he didn't get it. So sad.
Starting point is 01:43:15 They were going to give him an island? A fucking island. Off the coast of Japan or some shit? Nah, you could pick. It was like five different islands. They asked him, dude, you could have won an island. He goes, I don't own a boat and I can't swim, so I don't care. All right, well.
Starting point is 01:43:30 How great is that? I don't own a boat and I can't swim. Yeah, just give me the money. Don't give me an island. Who is Biz Bing fighting next? That would be cool. GSP, sir. That's right.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Come on, son. These things you're eating, these are backpacker meals. I got the guy who invented this coming on, son. These things you're eating, these are backpacker meals. I got the guy who invented this coming on my podcast. It's called Green Belly Meals and they have like a ton of calories. I was going to say a ton of calories if you're hiking. It's got a ton of carbs in it too, though.
Starting point is 01:43:56 These are non-keto. It's exogenous ketones afterwards. If you just have like half of it, you're good. Half of it is 25 grams. Am I going to shit my pants because I got 1,000 calories? No. It's not, but it's very dense.
Starting point is 01:44:10 Very dense and heavy. It's fucking delicious. We got to perform tonight at the comedy store. Backpackers like to take these things with them because they're really nutrient dense. You have another one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a bunch in the back. There's one here.
Starting point is 01:44:22 One third of the... Yeah, one of those. If you go into the back, go into the room. One third daily nutrition. Protein, calories, fiber, fats. I don't know why we just don't order the goddamn pizza sometimes, you know? I agree with you. I just don't get it.
Starting point is 01:44:36 I'm not opposed to that. Tapioca syrup is the first ingredient. You can't eat into the mic. You can't have cheese on your fucking fingers. You're not talking. What? If you're eating, you're not talking. I know. We can't eat into the mic. You can't have cheese on your fucking fingers. What? If you're eating, you're not talking. I know, we can't have that.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Or maybe we have it delivered after. These are peanut apricot. I ain't eating them. Peanut apricot is good. And this one is cranberry almonds. These two are cranberry almonds. Notice how no one's talking. It's actually pretty tasty.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Yeah, that shit's pretty good. This is like an ad for Green Belly Meals. I'll just tell you right now, I have no affiliation with these people. It's not an advertisement. I don't make any money from it. I bought it. I paid for it with American money.
Starting point is 01:45:21 American money. Hard-earned American money. I read about it or listened to him on a podcast the Rich Outdoors podcast a hunting podcast who's the strength coach you've talked to do you think that
Starting point is 01:45:30 you've gotten the most from because you've talked to a lot of them you know I've got a lot from Steve Maxwell for sure I've got a lot
Starting point is 01:45:39 from listening to Pavel Tatsulin talk on other podcasts and talk on audio books, and I've read his books, too. I feel like him, he's a big one. Keith Weber. We've had Keith Weber on the show.
Starting point is 01:45:56 He's the guy that has that extreme kettlebell cardio workout, the DVDs. He's got three of them. They're fucking insane. Really? They're so hard to do. You do them with one 45-pound kettlebell, and they'll kick your ass. Wow. At the end of the...'re fucking insane they're so hard to do you do them with one 45 pound kettlebell and they'll kick your ass wow at the end of the uh you like how long are they 45 minutes i think 40 40 44 minutes do you do you think do you train less do you are you uh eddie put your headphones
Starting point is 01:46:16 on so you realize how loud opening that bag back and forth is are you somebody now who believes in training less than you did from talking to those guys, as in are most people overtrained? This is what I think they, what Pavel has going on is something that he calls greasing the groove, and what he believes is you should never go to failure. He's like, your body's not designed to go to failure. If you're doing, say if you're doing something and you could do 10 reps with it, and then at 10 you're like, you should do five, and then you should walk away for five to 10 minutes, and then do another five.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Yeah, because if you're trying to get strong, when you're trying to get strong, the way you do it is continue to do those motions correctly with full strength and full balance and full control of the kettlebell, full control of the dumbbell, whatever. If you're doing clean and press, whether you're doing deadlifts, with full control. So you're lifting with perfect technique, right? And then take a long time off so that when you come back 10 minutes later, your body's 100% recovered. So you're not still dying from the last set that you did 30 seconds ago.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Come on, push it, push it, push it, push it. Isn't that what sports are? That's what we're talking about. We're talking about strength. We're not talking about cardio. If you want to do cardio- Or muscle building. Well, you're for sure going to build a lot of muscle if you get stronger.
Starting point is 01:47:32 But there's a big difference between that and the hypertrophy if you're trying to just gain weight. If you're trying to just get your muscles bigger and do bodybuilding exercises, a lot of those dudes like to do pyramids. They'll stack up the weight real high, and then they drop the weight down and continue the reps until they have almost no weight. But there's real questions as to whether or not that's a smart way to train as an athlete. The idea being is that as an athlete, say if you have a brutal strength and conditioning workout where you're doing everything to failure, deadlifts to failure, clean press to failure, curls to failure, overhead press to failure. The next day, you're useless, man.
Starting point is 01:48:12 That would be a bad idea. You're useless. You're not going to be able to spar. You're not going to be able to do jiu-jitsu. You're going to get mauled. But there's different phases for that, I feel like. There could be. That's one way of looking at it. But his way of looking at it is you do these workouts where you lift a small percentage,
Starting point is 01:48:27 like half of what your actual max would be in terms of repetitions, and just take 10 minutes off and then do that again. 10 minutes? Take 10 minutes off, yep, and take a long time off and do that again. And by that way, you leave and you still have a lot left in the tank. These guys are fucking going at it. God damn. Edson Barbosa and Benil Darius are throwing down.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Benil Darius is just coming straight for Barbosa's crack. What about maxing out, though? What do they talk about with that? They don't believe you should do it. I mean, you might want to do it every now and then just to find out where you stand, but it's not something that you should do on a regular basis for a workout. Because I feel like a lot of sports are where you're maxing out.
Starting point is 01:49:04 You're trying your hardest. if you're fighting for sure if you're you know so it seems counterintuitive like if you're if you're wrestling or you're doing jiu-jitsu or you know a lot of times if you watch these guys they're spending a long time doing using their entire body in sort of probably in a maximum effort position right no so what would you say no so so if you're trying to get out of a body lock or you're okay you know what i mean or you're in the clinch when you go to failure when you ever go to failure in a sport um well i don't i guess you don't you don't really go to muscle failure in a sport what you do is you
Starting point is 01:49:42 want to make sure those muscles are strong, and then you want to build up your technique. Oh, high kick by Barboza. Wow. You want to build up your technique and your endurance in the sport itself, like your ability to do rounds as a fighter or rounds rolling in jiu-jitsu or whatever else other sport you're doing. Your real endurance training is probably going to come from sprints. Your real endurance training is going to come from something different outside of strength training
Starting point is 01:50:07 We're actually doing the sport itself. So you're doing the sport itself or then again There's also argument for plyometrics, which is a great thing to do Which is also sort of the same kind of result you're getting from movement training from a lot of other things that people what's plyometrics Explosives jump box jumps jumping over hurdles. so if i said you can only do five exercises uh why would i say i'd say why because let's just say you can only do five what are the five most i'd say are you writing a strength condition book i would say you should do more than five things unless there's something wrong because people don't have that much time those fucking people need to go fuck themselves squats push-ups pull-ups yeah i'd say don't ask me any stupid questions. Yeah. Back raises.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Squats, deadlifts. That's not a stupid question. I'd say squats, deadlifts. Chin-ups are huge, and I think weighted chin-ups are even more huge. Push-ups. I'm a big believer in weighted chin-ups. I love putting one of those dip belts on with a kettlebell in between my legs and doing chin-ups that way because it makes my max chin-ups go way higher. And I do them with strict form.
Starting point is 01:51:04 None of that airy-fairy cross-felt kipping. You're not into kipping, bro? You're not into kipping? You're not a kipper? No, I'm not a kipper. I had you pegged as a kipper, brother. You know what I think? I think you should be able to do strict form pull-ups
Starting point is 01:51:15 and find out how much endurance you actually have in your arms without moving your legs with it and everything else. Strict. In Strong First, in Pavel's organization, you have to be able to do straight pull-ups. Like from the bottom, full extension. Damn, Benil Dariush with a big kick to the body. He's bullying him.
Starting point is 01:51:34 He's going straight forward, not letting him tee off. This is a crazy-ass fight. Nice knee to the body. Is Dariush a Samba guy or a Graco guy originally? He's a jiu-jitsu black belt. Jiu-jitsu and Muay Thai. His jiu-jitsu is nasty, and he's a Rafael Cordero student. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Oh, kick to the body by Barboza. Barboza's so fucking fast. But Darius is on him, man. Darius is winning this stand-up game. I don't know about all that. It's close. Barboza's been fighting a long time, I feel like. Oh, left hand by Darius.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Nice. The thing about Barbosa is he can just always turn out the lights with one shot. Yeah, he's explosive. And he also does a lot of wild shit, like head kicks and things that can take you out. Darius is the underdog. I like him as the underdog if I was betting on it. Is Felder still fighting? I haven't seen him in a while.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Yeah, he just won. He's a killer. You know he majored in theater in school? Inside leg kick. Who did Felder just fought? Just fought. Where did I learn to speak English? I was caged out with that. He took a little time off. But he did win his last fight,
Starting point is 01:52:38 did he not? I believe he did. He's a fun little bit, though. Smart guy, man. Really smart guy. About February 19th and beat Alessandro Ricci. There we go. Thank you. He's tough as shit. He took a full kick from Barboza in the body and didn't even flinch.
Starting point is 01:52:56 A month ago. Jesus. Oh, those kicks are so hellish. Yeah, Barboza might be the best kicker in this fucking division. You really saw that in the Pettis fight. Can you think of another, who would be a better kicker in any division? Oh, again. Damn.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Damn. But, you know, guys take it. Look at this. Body shots. Remember that Jamie Varner fight? Holy shit. Like, Wonderboy is a phenomenal kicker. Different, though.
Starting point is 01:53:22 As far as, like, leg kicks, body body kicks, Barbosa's number one for me. He's pretty goddamn good when we're eating over here. I'm trying to think of other really good kickers. But as far as that, obviously Cowboy's amazing with his setups. I just feel like Barbosa's number one. And then Jair Rodriguez is on another universe. Dude, how about him in the first game? He's the best kicker I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:53:48 God, that's a huge jump for him. Frankie Edgar! That's such a big leap for Yair. I thought Dominic Cruz's point about how Frankie Edgar is, you see a lot of fighters that once they start losing, they never recover. And then you see certain fighters like frankie heger who even though they look like they're down and out always find a way to say in the fight yeah yeah there's certain fighters that you know once they somebody else gets the advantage they you know they tend to not
Starting point is 01:54:15 be able to kind of come back from it and guys like frankie coffee all over myself white shirt too that's great this uh coffee, something happens with it when you press it. Oh, dude, you can't have that. Is it too full? It's spraying out. A lot of pressure builds up, Joe. Yeah, but why is it spraying out like that? It's physics. I need a pointer and a fucking cardboard. You wouldn't know. You wouldn't be faking it.
Starting point is 01:54:38 I could show you, dude. You don't know. You don't know how much physics I had. Dude, these guys are banging, man! Yeah, I like how Darius is being aggressive going forward. God. Oh. Oh, my God. Darius is, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:54:51 Is he wearing an invisible helmet? Oh, Brian, you should write for some sort of a badge sitcom. Thanks, buddy. Is that a compliment? I hope so. I can never figure it out. What is he wearing?
Starting point is 01:55:00 Some sort of a helmet? Is he an invisible helmet? If that was in a movie, I'd be like, what kind of douchebag would say that? I was in a movie. I played you in a movie. In the movie Warrior. Guys, get it, please. I might see a penny. It was amazing when you brought out the fish bowl. I don't want
Starting point is 01:55:14 to talk about it, alright? I was like, if it was ever in a script, if someone brought that up in a script, I'd be like, hey, see this part? No. Absolutely not. No. Yet that's the part I get the most compliments on in the world. Because who are you hanging out with? That's the problem.
Starting point is 01:55:29 I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to talk about it. Other actors. Other actors, bro. Hey, uh. Other actors. Dude, she's nine. Barbarossa's five. I got to come on the road with you sometime. Damn it. I'm busy. Other actor Darius is 9 Barboza is 5
Starting point is 01:55:45 I gotta come on The road with you Damn it I'm busy Never match it up Oof Damn Nice jab
Starting point is 01:55:53 He went from jab To a single Great takedown defense By Barboza Swanson Lobov That is a weird fight Such a random fight
Starting point is 01:56:03 I mean Swanson's like What is he ranked number five or something like that? Yeah. And Lobov isn't even top 20. No. That's so weird. But Artem was like talking shit to him. Then maybe he pulled the Conor flag, you know?
Starting point is 01:56:14 It's like, hey, Conor's my boy, like, yeah, I'd do it. That's a weird fight, though. It's a weird fight. It's random as fuck. If you're a cub, what's it do for you? I guess, you know? Keeps him busy, makes him look like a superstar if he wins. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Lose. You're getting better shit than Barbosa. Mark Henry guy. But even him, you know what I mean? That's the thing about Barbosa. As good as his fucking technique is, as good as his kickboxing is, he still gets tagged. Everybody gets tagged. This is a brutal goddamn sport.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Yep. Look at the blood on the fucking canvas. Yeah. I mean, as good as he is, as good as Barboza is, he's still- That's the most messiest canvas I've seen in a while. Yeah, that's messy. Usually they clean that shit up for Fox. They spray it.
Starting point is 01:56:52 One of Tony's best fights right there. This is Fox? No, this is FS1. FS1 is not nearly the reach that Big Fox has. If that was Big Fox, they would torture us, man. It's one of the reasons why i hated doing big foxes because they would get out there with spray paint and they would spray paint the fucking color on the octagon all over that gray area non-toxic i'm sure oh it's brutal it would blow right over to your face you
Starting point is 01:57:15 knew you were breathing in some horrible shit jesus they're actually using real spray paint yes it's totally illegal i guarantee you it's some shit that they would do if they were working on a car somewhere. You know? It's terrible. Just straight primer? I don't know who authorized it. I don't know why they were allowed to do it, but we would be sitting there cage side and toxic fucking fumes from spray paint
Starting point is 01:57:38 were being blasted all over that canvas. Is it because they just don't want the blood? Yes. They just didn't want to see the blood. Because they think people are like, oh my want the blood? Yes. They just didn't want to see the blood. Because they think people are like, oh my God. People on Big Fox, they didn't want to admit
Starting point is 01:57:48 what they're selling. Oh, God damn it. It's a bloody sport. So you would be sitting there doing commentary and you'd be coughing. You'd have to like pull your shirt up
Starting point is 01:57:56 above your face like this. Like, fucking A, man. And the guys who were doing the sound were like, this is fucking brutal. I can't believe they're doing this.
Starting point is 01:58:02 That sucks. Dude, these guys are just coming at it. This is fucking... Darius is like, they're doing this. That sucks. Dude, these guys are just coming at it. This is fucking... Darius is like, here you go. Head kick. Damn, he's good. Damn, Darius looks real smooth on his feet.
Starting point is 01:58:14 The thing about Barbosa, though, you've got to always wonder. You've got to always wonder when he's going to uncork something on you. He's got such good footwork, too, man. Yeah, he does. That's that Mark Henry, man. Because he wasn't always like this. Damn. He used to be a little more stagnant.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Oh! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Jesus Christ! Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Like you just said. He's out.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Like you just said. Holy shit. Like you just fucking said. Holy shit. Is that Mario fucking said. Holy shit. Is that Mario Yamazaki, the ref? Do you see him come fucking Brock Lesnar bulldogging in? Oh my god. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:58:53 Good for Yamazaki. Good. Because he didn't want to get him. What timing on that knee. What the fuck? That's Mark Henry right there. There he is. Powerful Mark Henry.
Starting point is 01:58:59 Are you kidding? Good lord. Almeida, Thomas Almeida. Yep. Nice. Oh, I can't wait to see this replay with the fucking timing on that knee. It was insane. I hope he's all right.
Starting point is 01:59:08 I want to know what the fuck Mario runs in the 40. Did you see how fast that was? Wait till you see this. I've never seen a ref react that way ever. Man, oh man. That was ridiculous. Here it is. What was it?
Starting point is 01:59:19 A left knee? Jesus. Jumping knee? I don't even remember. Look at this. Off a jab. Off a jab. Right in there. Off a jab. Yeah. It looked I don't even remember. Look at this. Off a jab. Off a jab. Right in there.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Off a jab. Yeah. It looked like he was going to. Look at him. Boom. Dude. Touch. And cluck.
Starting point is 01:59:32 Good for that ref. That's a great job on that ref. Boom. That blowout fucking. That wasn't Yamazaki, was it? I can't tell. That's Mario. He's got to make up for that.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Is it Mario? No. No, that's not Mario. That's not Mario. That's some other Asian fella. No. Fucking body diving. That may be the best not Mario. That's not Mario Yamazaki. Some other Asian fella. No. Fucking body diver he is. That may be the best referee ever.
Starting point is 01:59:47 That's a guy I haven't seen. Well done. We'll see the referee when we see them get their hands raised. He almost blew out Barbosa's knee. Well done. Hey, Spass, relax. No, he was good. He was good, though.
Starting point is 01:59:57 He wanted to save Darius. That's a good referee. So it wasn't Mario Yamazaki, who was the referee? No. No, look at that guy. I don't know that guy. Oh, his last name's Maya. Oh.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Yeah. He did a good job. Yeah. Awesome job. Dude, look at that guy. I don't know that guy. Oh, his last name's Maya. Oh. Yeah. Did a good job. Awesome job. Dude. Powerful bull. Is Damian Maya's brother? I don't know, but they're both in Brazil. Is there a lot of Mayas in Brazil?
Starting point is 02:00:12 It's probably his brother. Good chance. It's a good question. Remember when Rich Franklin's brother used to do, he used to referee? You look at him, you're like, hey, man. I nodded. I don't know. Yeah, I know you from somewhere.
Starting point is 02:00:23 Where did I know you from, man? Rich Franklin. I was thinking about him the other day. I know you, bro. Yeah, I know you from somewhere. Where did I know you from, man? Rich Frank. I was thinking about him the other day. I was watching a replay of him versus Anderson in Cincinnati. He was such a fun fighter. Remember, he was a math teacher. Looked like Ace Ventura. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:34 That's his whole spiel. Handsome Ace Ventura. Big, tough motherfucker. And one of the first guys to come in in insane, insane shape. Insane shape. He had a real weird workout, though. Like, today it would be kind of frowned upon, a lot of the exercises he was doing. Because he was doing a lot of, like, isolation exercises and really super high repetitions.
Starting point is 02:00:51 You know, you remember? He was doing, like, machines, like isolation machines. That shit worked, though. For him. For him it worked. Until Andrew Silva came along. Yeah, well. It's a cool story, bro.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Check out these knees. Remember that? Yeah. Oh, you're doing what? Let me go and get this plum real quick And knee your nose off How about that? Look at this Look at this card
Starting point is 02:01:08 Weidman versus Musashi April 8th Did you see the poster? DC was so pissed I know He's like what the fuck is this? He should be Why?
Starting point is 02:01:15 Because Rumble's like 80 times bigger than him Rumble looks like King Kong sitting over him He's the little poor white girl Yeah It's very strange It is very strange He is Kong He kong looming in the background yeah man like like he beat him before some shit like he didn't get choked the
Starting point is 02:01:32 fuck out in the first match i know right i don't know they look the same size no no that's not it there that's not it dc literally was like what the fuck is this there's a poster that dc put on instagram jamie see if you could find it just Just calling them out like, who made this? I'm the champ, for God's sakes. Barboza with an insane knee. Holy shit, that was good. That ref, we need to check him for fucking supplements. One more time. Let's see it here.
Starting point is 02:01:54 I see some motion. Dude, this is crazy, but off a fucking jab, man. Like, come on. It's perfect. He didn't back up. He just went, oh, okay, here you go. Good lord For sure that's his brother
Starting point is 02:02:06 It looks like Damien Maia Damien Maia They look very similar He looks super similar You can google it You might be racist As fuck though
Starting point is 02:02:13 There might be a shitload Of Maia's You know what's weird Like you can say it's racist But that dude is white as fuck Yeah he is Like There it is
Starting point is 02:02:20 Look at the That's the poster Cormier Johnson poster Like you can't say Oh shit Well that's crazy That's ridiculous Yeah that is kind of crazy He's the champ Shipping the other way around Look at the Cormier Johnson poster. Oh, shit. Well, that's crazy. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:02:27 Yeah, that is kind of crazy. He's the champ, shipping the other way around. Yeah. That's ridiculous. That's weird. Yeah, that's ridiculous. He's all red and shit. Whoever did that should get fired. That poster's ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:02:38 It's because, you know, obviously Johnson's a knockout artist and he's winning, but DC's your champ, man, And he beat him before. Johnson's looming over him, I guess. He's not. They fought before. What is this? Is this the same reason why that Ronda Rousey video was all Ronda and very little about Amanda Nunes? It's different because neither one of them's a draw.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Oh, you don't think people want to see Rumble fight? I do. But if just a Rumble fight's not a big draw. I mean, you do i love them i'm not complaining about rumble rumble fight for the title is different than anybody else fighting for the title rumble johnson the numbers would be on my side on this argument joe not an argument i'm just saying like he doesn't pull in huge numbers pay-per-view no i think you're probably right but i think he has the potential to be a massive star and that's what they're seeing
Starting point is 02:03:22 with his knockout power yeah the way he puts guys to sleep. Rumble Johnson. I think Rumble Johnson, John Jones, sells more than Rumble Johnson, Daniel Cormier. That's right. Well, they already fought. I know. Beat him. Yeah, I think you're right. Look at his timing on his fucking knee.
Starting point is 02:03:35 But dude. Boom. Oh my God. I mean, that's about as perfect a knee as anybody's ever thrown in life. That's incredible. It's a perfect knee. Ridiculous timing timing he wasn't winning that fight before that crazy not on my card oh well i didn't have a card do you have a
Starting point is 02:03:50 card yeah i'm right here here we go and that ref uh mvp of the night damn edson barboza's a beast number five just beat dariush knocked him out he's a fun one coming up what a crazy division that 155 is oh my god boiling murders bro It's just a boiling pot. Murder's row. You better have your shit together. Oh, yeah. You have to be able to do everything. Jesus. Because even this guy gets outworked by people.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Yeah, man. He's lost some big fights. And how about Pettis? Pettis now has to come back to this shit. Enjoy that, Pettis. Yeah, I mean, what does he do? But 55 for him. But he didn't really have that bad of a run at 55.
Starting point is 02:04:22 No. Last couple decisions. Oh, listen. When he was on top at 55, when he knocked out Cowboy Cerrone with that body kick. Oh, my God. When he knocked out Joe Lozon. When he tapped out Ben Henderson. And Benson Henderson to win the title.
Starting point is 02:04:33 He can still do work. He's still a top-ten guy. He's a beast. He's a beast. Hell of an athlete. And he's still fairly young. I feel like with a guy like that, it's almost like he has to take some time and get his body to the perfect weight and strength to compete at 155 this is the other thing joe where's he at mentally like he's been
Starting point is 02:04:51 to the top of everest he's he's put the flag in there you know what it takes to get there do you still want to do that like you've been through all this do you really want to restart from the bottom and go up and you know what it's like up there. Is it any different? Yeah, and you're dealing with all the issues. It's probably worse now. Physical issues. Yes. This DC rumble fucking promo. Dum, dum, dum.
Starting point is 02:05:15 That's going to be a fun fight, man. Dude, I like Weidman Musashi on that, too. Yeah, that's a very fun fight. I like that fight a lot. Dude, the Dallas card is stacked. Everybody's on it. Katrina's real good on that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:30 Who? I don't even know where to start. I mean, can you bring that up? Just look at it. There's so many, Eddie. My mind's going. Well, it's a heavyweight title, right? It's Junior Dos Santos versus Stipe Miocic.
Starting point is 02:05:41 Yeah, Joanna Jacek on that bitch. And she's fighting. Here, go high on that. She's fighting Jessica Andrade. Yeah, man. Oh, Eddie Alvarez Poirier. Yeah. What is this?
Starting point is 02:05:56 Benitez, Barzola. He ain't doing shit. Gabriel Benitez and Enrique Barzola. That's interesting that that's on the main card. I don't think that. Does that? Yeah. It's not set yet. on the main card. I don't think that... Does that... Yeah. It's not set yet.
Starting point is 02:06:07 They'll just toss him up there. Because Frank Yeager versus Yair Rodriguez is a burner. Oh, my goodness. I think it's too much for Yair, but... You think it's too much for Yair? This soon? He just murked BJ Penn. Henry Cejudo versus Sergio Pettis.
Starting point is 02:06:21 Holy shit. I know. Damn, Sergio Pettis got some serious abs. Back up real quick. Yeah, he does. But what in the fuck, Sergio? Someone call the Goldenettis. Holy shit. I know. Damn, Sergio Pettis got some serious abs. Back up real quick. Yeah, he does. But what in the fuck, Sergio? Someone call the Golden Snitch. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:06:29 He's not passing the sniff test. Nope. The snitch test, the Golden Snitch test, you ain't passing, son. Two shredded. Wow, what a fucking card. Look at that card. Sergio Pettis is quietly becoming a real badass in that division. The real fight in the card that I'm interested in the most, honestly, is Frankie Edgar versus
Starting point is 02:06:45 Yair Rodriguez. I'm looking forward to that as much as- Dude, over Damian Mayamaz, my doll? As much as anything. Winner of that's going Sizzler. Yeah, but dude, Yair Rodriguez is doing some crazy street fighter shit in there. To BJ Penn? I want to see it.
Starting point is 02:06:57 I want to see what he can do to Frankie. If he can land a 360 roundhouse kick on Frankie Edgar, we got a party going on here. See, I don't like that fight, son. The party's with Stipe Dos Santos. That's the party, too, right? That's a party. They already did that. And it was a close fucking fight.
Starting point is 02:07:11 Man, Dos Santos' face has changed. May 13th. Oh, that's a while. Yeah, when you get punched, it changes. Yeah. When Cain Velasquez fucking tenderizes your face for 10 rounds. Gee whiz, he looks more and more evil. He looks like he's the guy, one of the demons.
Starting point is 02:07:24 Couldn't get any nicer than that guy. Yeah, he's a stud. Might be the most friendliest guy in the world. Steve is a good dude, too, but that's a great fucking fight. Oh, yeah. Shogun. They're trying to do Eddie Alvarez versus Ferguson.
Starting point is 02:07:37 Ferguson's like, nah, man, I'm waiting for this title shot, huh, Eddie? Dude, look at Shogun. The network looks kind of strange, no? Yeah, it does. Yeah, it looks real slow. They're doing it for the cameras, fellas. They're warming up, you know?
Starting point is 02:07:48 But they come in, they might already warmed up, and when they come in, they go, hey, we're going to get you now on film, and you're almost cold, you stand up, and this isn't real. That guy to the right has been... Plus, you don't want to show too much. That's a crazy fight, though. Shogun has been in so many wars. He's like, how many more wars can that guy be in? Wait, what's this movie?
Starting point is 02:08:12 Scarlett Johansson's kicking ass again. Dude, she's bodied up. She's constantly kicking ass. She's super bodied up. And them tit-hairs. Yep, she got them robot tit-hairs. Hey, guys, seriously, don't be misogynist. It's Women's Month.
Starting point is 02:08:24 Is it still Women's Month? I have to check you. What is misogyny? Does that mean you hate women? It's not misogynist to be- Just because you say she has a nice body does not mean you're misogynist. No. If she went, man, you have some nice dick.
Starting point is 02:08:35 I like it. Yeah. You say she's got some nice tit heads. Yeah. That's being real. That's kind of the problem with the way the left the way the left um brands any kind of with like the narrative of feminism like women are victims men are oppressors and toxic and predators and you can't have a discussion from that it's like just because i think a woman's
Starting point is 02:08:56 beautiful and i compliment her or she turns me on doesn't mean i want to oppress her it just means i want to have sex with her i feel like we're turning a corner on that i feel like we're turning a corner in academia we haven't yeah but i think that they're being critiqued on a level that they've never really been critiqued it good good i'm glad to hear that don't mean don't you think i mean with the kind of scrutiny that they receive online i i do the problem is i think most of us are living in our own echo chambers i think the biggest problem with online stuff is that most of us are able to create our own echo chambers. I think the biggest problem with online stuff is that most of us are able to create our own echo chambers. And so there isn't enough exchange of ideas. And I think we all need to kind of open up. And I think you should listen to the people you disagree with as much as you possibly can to see what you don't like about them and what they're really saying. If you rely on just
Starting point is 02:09:41 the media, what they're going to do is they're going to they're going to highlight four sentences that you said over and over and what the biggest problem we have is you can say one sentence and people brand this very complex human being who's always changing day to day and they'll brand you with a label you're a sexist you're a racist you're a well human beings are very different i'm very different day to day depending on my mood i say some fucked up shit then i say some really nice things. And depending on how I feel, but I know who I am. Yeah, defining people through a few tweets or a blog article or something like that. You're talking about a human's entire life.
Starting point is 02:10:14 It doesn't help. It doesn't move ideas forward. Well, it's also the reality of censorship. I mean, you're attempting to, instead of debate people and their ideas and offer superior ideas and put your ideas to the test, instead of doing that, they want to silence speech. So they want to stop people like Jordan Peterson. There's a university that just called him transphobic and they're trying to get him kicked off of, I think it was in, I want to say it was in Dublin. Charles Murray was not allowed to speak at a university. Well, a lot of people have not been allowed to speak recently.
Starting point is 02:10:47 And in these leftist universities, they don't even let you speak because you have a different idea. Because you might have an idea that grates against the common orthodoxy. Yeah, and Jordan Peterson, by the way, is anything but transphobic. He's absolutely not. And the only thing that he said is he doesn't want to use a bunch of made-up gender stereotypes. Either do I. Or gender pronouns, rather. Or how about the fact that I have to give you verbal consent in bed, so you're getting into my bedroom telling me how to speak.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Yeah. This is, I don't think we've seen anything like this, and that's the problem. And it has to be fought against. It's just because it's a form of tyranny. And by the way, again, the reason a lot of the liberal press has lost their credibility is because they harp on, they'll brand, like think about even with Trump, who I'm not a fan of. They brand him all these things where it's kind of the, what are we supposed to do with that kind of, when you call somebody that, is it over now? Are we just done with that person? Or is there a smarter way to break somebody down?
Starting point is 02:11:44 Yeah, I don't know man it's it's especially the left i love how the left tries to you know speaking of like if you if you dislike trump the way i would fight trump is i would do this i would go he's not a democrat he's not a republican he's not even an american he's a trumpist he's a monarch that's how you get the second amendment guys on your side If you're a liberal and you want to get the other people on your side... It doesn't work that way. You're not going to get the Second Amendment guys if he supports them. If you frame it
Starting point is 02:12:12 the right way. But the left doesn't. The left doesn't support Second Amendment rights. So if he does, he gets them. I mean, it's really that simple. Or you frame the debate a different way, right? Be more fair about... Be more specific and detailed on how you criticize somebody forget trump anybody know what you don't like about that person because
Starting point is 02:12:32 there's a lot to like about a lot of people even if they're assholes i think i mean the people are complicated right we all have friends and they all of us have friends we love and they have aspects of their personality we don't necessarily like day to day, right? Sometimes they're idiots in certain ways. But we forgive them because we know that inside of them. You're talking about yourself now? I'm talking about people. You're weirding me out.
Starting point is 02:12:51 I'm talking about people. I feel like he's having a conversation. We need a moment of silence when Shogun walks out. It might be the last time we see him, right? Yeah, man. You never know. I mean, how many more years can that guy go out? Mount Rushmore?
Starting point is 02:13:04 He's a bad motherfucker. Yeah. I have about 40 guys on my Mount Rushmore. Yeah, Mount Rushmore has to be big as fuck. Yeah, don't give me four or five. Well, first of all, you have to have Hoist Gracie. Hoist Gracie's on Mount Rushmore, period. Right?
Starting point is 02:13:16 He was the original guy that set it all off, whether or not people— I mean, he's still got big numbers with that Ken Shamrock thing, right? Crazy. Huge numbers. Didn't he get crazy numbers? Huge numbers. Ken Shamrock's on that, right? Yeah, he's gotta be on it. But that's kind of like the way Babe Ruth
Starting point is 02:13:28 would be on Mount Rushmore for because he's one of the first, right? Babe Ruth makes it. Yeah. But his numbers started it. Yeah, but Babe Ruth and Hoyce Gracie, they did work. They just didn't start it. Like, they did fucking work, too. Right. Babe Ruth's numbers are legit as shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:44 Hoyce Gracie did something spectacular. He introduced the idea that a smaller man could beat a bigger man in a real life fight and with techniques that you've never seen before. In a 16 man tournament. Yeah. Yes. Nobody saw triangles before. 16 man tournament. When Hoyce Gracie tapped out Dan Severin no one even knew what the fuck he was doing.
Starting point is 02:14:00 And then when you try to bring it back to go like in 1993 try going to your local Jiu Jitsu school tell them to teach you that like oh that's advanced they were not teaching people triangles because they thought that shit was advanced I know a dude who went to a certain Jiu Jitsu school
Starting point is 02:14:16 right afterwards and they told him we can't teach you triangles yet you're not ready for that yet that's advanced techniques they were holding shit back from people Fedor's on that Mount Rushmore for sure a hundred percent Fedor's on there and then current guys. I'd say Kane How many guys can you have on Rushmore? I was too many just to Mount Rushmore is If you had to for four
Starting point is 02:14:44 You can't have four can't have four anderson Silva GSP. We know that, right? How did they decide who was going to be on Mount Rushmore? Anderson Silva, GSP, 100%. How did they decide? Good question. Do you know, Eddie? I have no idea. You have to say, who are the guys that have stayed at the top for a long time? Anderson Silva, GSP. And finished dudes.
Starting point is 02:14:57 Well, yeah, but then what about Matt Hughes? Yeah. Matt Hughes finished GSP in a title fight. How long was Matt Hughes on top? A while, right? He was on top for quite a while. One of the most winning... And he's another real pioneer that changed the game in a lot of ways
Starting point is 02:15:10 because he introduced the idea that high-level wrestling plus submissions. Yeah. Like when he hit that far side arm bar on GSP, GSP went for a Kimura and he didn't secure the legs and Matt Hughes spun around on that far side arm bar and locked it in. It was beautiful. And then what about Uriah Faber, what he did for the little guys? And then what?
Starting point is 02:15:26 You know what I'm saying? Uriah Faber, you got it. No, no, no. But hold on. What about Frank Mayer? The problem with Uriah Faber is he never won a UFC title. And I think if you're talking about a UFC Hall of Fame. BJ Penn.
Starting point is 02:15:34 In his prime, though, he won a WC. How about BJ Penn? He did. BJ Penn's got to be in there. There can't be four. There can't be four. There's 150 people in the Hall of Fame. There can't be four.
Starting point is 02:15:43 I don't know how you choose. Yeah, you got to choose four. It stresses me out. Just four. I can't. I get There's 150 people. You can't be four. I don't know how you choose. Yeah, you gotta choose four. It stresses me out. Just four. I can't. I get stressed out. Hold on, hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:15:49 I don't want to do it. Is there a heavyweight in there? What heavyweight do you choose? It'd be probably Fedor Kane or Verdun. There's an argument for Verdun. No, not for Verdun. Noguera. How dare you.
Starting point is 02:15:58 Noguera might be up there, but Noguera might be up there. You got it. I think Fedor, right? Over dominance for a long period of time. What about Dominic Cruz? Knocking dudes out. Amazing. Yeah, he only lost twice.
Starting point is 02:16:10 Once by choke and once by decision. You know, lost by choke. He's amazing. Long ass time ago at 145. Okay, what about Jon Jones? You know what I'm saying? You can't have four. Jon Jones never lost.
Starting point is 02:16:20 He lost by whooping a dude's ass and got disqualified. How long had that been? Because of a stupid rule. Hoyce, Anderson Silva. Conor McGregor. Yeah, yeah. You know what? You're talking about game changers who changed the game?
Starting point is 02:16:33 You have to look at a couple things. Longevity. Like, how long were they on top? That's got to take a place, right? Let's talk about criteria for it. How long have you been on top? How did you finish, dudes? How many finishes?
Starting point is 02:16:46 That's got to play a factor. What do you mean? How long were you in the top five or champ? Nope. How long were you champ? How long did you hold the belt? That's got to play a factor. Yeah, that's a big factor. How did you do it? Did you finish? How many people did you actually finish? That's got to play. What's the caliber of your competition too? Sometimes guys get
Starting point is 02:17:01 dominant and they're in a slump in the division. When Mike Tyson came along and was murking everybody and there was Tony Tubbs. He's not the best of all time. Fighting Bruce Seldon. Mike Tyson's on my Mount Rushmore for that reason. He's on my Mount Rushmore too. GSP fought everybody and stayed on top forever.
Starting point is 02:17:18 Anderson Silva, everybody. Hoist, BJ, John Jones, Anderson Silva. GSP? What about Demetrius? What about Mighty Mouse and Fedor? Not Jon Jones. Well, see, Jon Jones has never lost, though. All those other guys have lost.
Starting point is 02:17:34 And he's beaten amazing guys. And he was the youngest champ. How long was he up on top for? Two years? No longer than that. No, he's been on longer than that. I don't know. He beat Shogun when he was 23, man.
Starting point is 02:17:46 He never lost a title. He's 30 now. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Seven years, B. He wasn't on top of seven years. Oh, wait a minute. He's on top right now. I'm sorry, excuse me. How about Jose Aldo? He's ahead of Jon Jones, isn't he? Yeah, but he got knocked out by Conor McGregor. Okay, he lost. After nine years.
Starting point is 02:18:01 Yeah, but there's a reality of like you gotta look at someone based on the overall performance of their career. He held the belt way longer. No, look, he's phenomenal. Three years. The big fight. The big fight that he had against Conor McGregor. His biggest fight.
Starting point is 02:18:15 He got murked. He got murked in 14 seconds. Okay, yeah. John Jones never lost. That's huge. What about Hoyce? Matt Hughes, though. Matt Hughes went through Hoyce.
Starting point is 02:18:22 Oh, he went through him like a hot knife through butter. That was an old Hoyce. That was prime. That was dad bod Hoyce. So Hoyce? Matt Hughes, though? Matt Hughes went through Hoyce. Oh, he went through him like a hot knife through butter. That was an old Hoyce. Not prime. Dad bought Hoyce. So Hoyce, Mark Coleman, Fedor, Anderson Silva. Not Mark Coleman. That's it. Mark Coleman.
Starting point is 02:18:34 Dude, he changed a lot of shit, too. Mark Coleman's a pioneer. He's the one who brought wrestlers to prominence. I know. He won a UFC belt and a Pride belt. I know. It's true. Where's Dan Henderson on that bitch?
Starting point is 02:18:44 That's a good question. Two-time division champion. It's simultaneously in Pride. Pride UFC. You won a Strikeforce championship. Fuck you. Fuck everyone. Amazing.
Starting point is 02:18:55 Awesome. You could argue that he might have won that decision against Bisping. Yes. He was anywhere other than England. A lot of people have argued that. I understand, but I'm talking about people who held the belt. You have to use belt holders for the longest time, right? No, but Dan was fighting in pride.
Starting point is 02:19:08 But Dan was fighting for the belt against Bisping. I understand. If he beats Bisping and wins the middleweight title, you gotta look at him as like, man, top five of all time. He's still top five. He still is. As far as the three... Well, not top five, but who knows what the number is. There's too many great guys. There's too many.
Starting point is 02:19:23 Oh, these guys are throwing hard right away. Both these boys are bangers. Shogun's standing flat-footed right in front of this kid. The three most dominant winners. Valencia's a tough dude, too, man, and he's a big fucking guy. Football player. Yeah. Football player.
Starting point is 02:19:37 Big 205-er, man. Big, strong motherfucker. Where did he play football? Did he play pro, or he played just college? College, Hofstra Oh, Jesus Shogun's always had a granite chin Oh, shit
Starting point is 02:19:53 Oh, dropped him, son Oh, tagged him Powerful assume this by Shogun This is a crazy fight Oh, he went to the body That's that veteran approach For sure. How old is Ruah now?
Starting point is 02:20:07 Shogun's got some weird thing going on with his right. No, older than that, isn't he? His right pec. He's probably 30, 32 at the most. What? I think he's 30. That young? Yeah, Shogun.
Starting point is 02:20:16 Shogun is not 30. He's not. He's 35. No, he's four. Is he 35? 35. That's older than I thought. Yeah, I thought he was 32.
Starting point is 02:20:24 Those are powerful singles. He wears the shortest shorts by far, if anyone. This actually. Do you see how his right pec, he's got some weird thing going on, like where his pec connects over by his shoulder? It's almost like something's torn there. Oh, he got tuned up. He looks softer than normal.
Starting point is 02:20:40 He got tuned up. Volante is closing in. Oh, he's going for the knee. Oh, Jesus Christ. He looks softer than normal. Volante is using it. Oh, he's going for the knee. Oh. Jesus Christ. He looks... He looks... Volante using the jab very nicely. He's never had a good body.
Starting point is 02:20:51 I know, I know. But just a little softer in the middle. Dude, for 35, he looks pretty fucking good right now. He doesn't look bad. Against a young... He doesn't look bad, but this is a crazy way to fight. This is a crazy way to fight. That's Shogun, though, isn't it?
Starting point is 02:21:03 I know, but... In Brazil? The fuck do we expect? Stand and bang. Over's a crazy way to fight. That's Shogun, though, isn't it? I know, but... In Brazil? The fuck do we expect? Stand and bang. Oh, over the top with the right hand. Oh, my God. Fuck fighting Shogun in Brazil. He's also, what, a two-fight win streak?
Starting point is 02:21:15 Three-fight? I mean, he's ranked number six, man. He's not, like, just some washed-up vet. Volante's doing a good job of keeping that left hand up high and avoiding that big overhand. Because he keeps coming over the top. It's his jab, though. He's getting counted over the top.
Starting point is 02:21:30 But Vontae's been doing a good job. See that? Blocking that. When he sees it, boom. Oh, there. One goes through right there. Yeah, he's getting counted. That jab.
Starting point is 02:21:39 Coming over that jab. They have abandoned kicks. Abandoned kicks. Abandoned kicks. Abandoned kicks. Or wrestling. Just say, fuck it, let's just box each other in the face.
Starting point is 02:21:51 That's when you tell dudes have been dinged up. And they get dinged up a little bit. Oh, there you go. Shogun threw like sort of a half-hearted inside leg kick.
Starting point is 02:22:00 And you know Vellante can fucking wrestle. He takes dudes down. He trains with Weidman. But. He's going to take a trains with Weidman. But. He's going to take a big deep breath with two minutes to go. This has been a high pace for 205. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Oh, shit. His jab is starting to bust Shogun up. See his eye? Yeah. That right eye and the nose. It's that jab, man. Dude, does Shogun still fuck with that unibrow still? He still rolls with it?
Starting point is 02:22:21 Yeah. You know what I mean? He's strong. You don't need wax. He's like Anthony Davis says it's my thing. You don't want wax. Oh! Does Vellante train with Ray Longo?
Starting point is 02:22:32 Yes. Wideman guy. He also trains with, who's that other guy? The kickboxing, Belmore kickboxing guy. Oh! Over the top of the right hand. Oof. God damn.
Starting point is 02:22:43 Both of them got granted. Remember that? A GSP's kickboxing trainer Which one? Oh you're thinking of Phil Nurse Yeah does he still in the mix? I don't see him a lot anymore Because he was John's guy for a little bit And then he was George's guy
Starting point is 02:22:58 I don't see him in the background anymore He definitely works with some guys Oh Jesus Christ He had the most beautiful gym I've ever seen. The Watt in New York City? Yes. God damn, it must have cost like $500 a month. At least. How much does it cost to work out there, if you had to guess?
Starting point is 02:23:14 Everything is so expensive in New York City. $100,000 a month. It's a good guess. Oh, he tagged Shogun! Good guess. Okay, find out, Jamie, what monthly rates are at the Watt in New York City. It's W-A-T. It's all wood flooring and shit.
Starting point is 02:23:30 Is it? I was like, what is going on in the ring? Oh, shit. All wood flooring, huh? Is it like real stylish in there? Yeah, it's beautiful, man. He was a great kickboxer, man. Phil Nurse was a bad motherfucker when he was young.
Starting point is 02:23:40 And great coach, too. Yeah. But you better have money. Well, it's so expensive for rent there. I mean, what is rent in New York City? It's insane. Especially where he's at. Do you ever talk to people that have a tiny-ass little apartment, and you talk to them, and
Starting point is 02:23:55 you're like, how much do you pay a month? $4,000. Yeah, $4,000 for a studio. So that means you have to make $50,000 a year just to pay for this apartment? Yeah. That's insane. 800 square feet. So if you make 100 grand a year, half of it is going to your studio apartment.
Starting point is 02:24:11 Biggest problem is so much Chinese and Russian and foreign money moved into New York and started buying properties. And so they sit empty because it's a safe place to put your money. Yeah. So they built these towers where people are are buying literally spending three grand a square foot for apartments that are sitting there empty why don't they rent them out
Starting point is 02:24:29 well it's a place basically for the very rich to keep their money I get it but you want to be a dumb ass businessman you say that Brendan Shaw
Starting point is 02:24:37 but in ten years when you're balling out of control and you decide to buy some penthouse up there and just keep it B it's just for some sort of an investment you decide to buy some penthouse up there and just keep it, B. It's just for some sort of an investment. You're right, you're right, Joe.
Starting point is 02:24:49 Yeah, man, you would have some dope-ass view. No, I can't have hoes hanging in there. That was one of the best things about that Doctor Strange movie. The Doctor Strange movie. Oh, shit, he clicked on that right here. And the Doctor Strange movie, Doctor Strange before he becomes the mystic. Spoiler alert, he lives in Manhattan
Starting point is 02:25:03 and he has this fucking insane view. that's like a real thing like you really can get a view like that in some of those apartments you're scrooge mcduck and if you and if you but if you can afford that view at nighttime god damn it is one of the most spectacular things that you could see out your windows in a place where you see i think that i think like being in manhattan on that and then owning like a dope ass crib in Malibu facing the beach doesn't get better. That would be the shit?
Starting point is 02:25:27 Those two things together? Yes. Nothing like it. The problem is like what are you doing there though? What are you doing in New York City? Just going to restaurants? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:34 Having parties? Come on in girls. I might just stay home and look out the window. I might be like, well look, if you want to get, you want to get rich, right?
Starting point is 02:25:43 So why do you want to get rich? Well, I want to be able to do whatever I want, and I want to be able to go nice places. I want to be able to eat nice food and see nice things. Okay, well, let's add up all those experiences, and how cool are they in comparison to looking out your window? I'll one-up you. Yeah, and having a fucking spectacular 30-story view. Think if you had this studio up there another level background now you're with your boys well i was thinking about renting a place in downtown no just men oh sorry
Starting point is 02:26:12 just men sorry let's get in the way but isn't that what everybody isn't that what people when you think about the guy who's balling with lots of money and he's got that crazy crib what you really think let's be honest all of us are thinking, oh it's amazing, good food, champagne Sluts For days I mean that's what most people are like That guy's gotta be banging like, you know I don't know, oh I'm sorry That's misogynistic
Starting point is 02:26:34 Women's month? Sorry, are you gonna pull that shit during women's month? Guys, guys, sorry Is it women's month or do they get a day? I'm not saying, I'm just saying that's what other people think Dan Bilzerian Yeah, that's what other people think. Damn, Bill Zarian. That's how he's rolling. Yeah, that's what you think.
Starting point is 02:26:46 That guy's... Hey, that's someone's daughter bending over for sushi right now. Look at that table. Come on, look at that. Look at that bitch bending over in a jeef string. He's out of control. No, he's totally in control. No, I mean, it's just...
Starting point is 02:26:59 That's what I mean. That's what everybody... That's where you spend your money. Dude, hashtag International Women's Day. Be thankful. What's wrong with that, dude? He's having money. Dude, hashtag International Women's Day. Be thankful. What's wrong with that, dude? He's having fun. Yeah, he's healthy.
Starting point is 02:27:09 He's hilarious. That's hilarious. No regrets there. Oh, Jean Valente is starting to pour it on here. He's stepping in with that jab. And Shogun keeps throwing that looping overhand right. It's finding a home a little bit. Sometimes.
Starting point is 02:27:22 Yeah, sometimes. It clipped him on the temple and dropped him. There's your Mario Yamazaki. There he is. You know, that's the same overhand right that he knocked out, not Liotta with. Remember? He caught him over the top. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:27:33 He just tagged him. Yikes. He tagged him with that right hand. Villante looks a little, well, I mean, they've been banging, so he should be a little fatigued. They're both a little fatigued. Villante just does not quit, though. He just fucking. He looks bigger. Valante just does not quit, though. He just fucking... He looks bigger.
Starting point is 02:27:47 Valante looks way bigger. He's a big boy. Yeah. He's been doing really well with that jab. Look at that counter of that right hand over the top right there. That was clean. And then Shogun's... Damn body shots.
Starting point is 02:27:57 ...hooks are landing, too, when he puts it together. He's just throwing one shot right now. When he puts two together, they land. Two to three land for him. I'm shocked at how much these guys have abandoned their kicks. Shocked. Has there been one? Yeah, there's been a few.
Starting point is 02:28:07 Early? They're kind of exchanging blows, too, aren't they? They're just standing in this- We call this a slobber knocker right now. But I mean- Oh! Oh! Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:28:16 Oh, shit. Shogun's wobbled a little bit. He cracked him. But it's just like these guys are- They're heavy on their legs. No head movement. If somebody uncorked a solid leg kick there. Isn't that Shogun's thing?
Starting point is 02:28:27 Can't he? Oh, yeah. Oh, he can kick the fuck out of you. Look at Volante with the takedown. Not up in here. How dare you? That's where you have Sunga's on, son. Don't bring that shit into my cage.
Starting point is 02:28:35 Don't ever bring that shit into my cage. Brian, you are back in the movie again. Dude, I'm just saying. It's what I say. It's what I fucking say. I feel it. I feel it right now. Don't bring that shit into my cage. Oh! Oh! Right inbled him with that dude oh jesus oh shit son he slipped oh boy
Starting point is 02:28:52 yeah but he's in trouble he's in trouble his legs are a little unwobbly oh he didn't yeah got right back up wow take some space he's just tired he's tough as shit this is only the second round kids this pace is nuts man man. Especially the blows. Oh, shit. Oh, he's doing that Shogun thing. Spreading of the hands. He's feeling it, son. Opening it.
Starting point is 02:29:09 Get ready for the shoot box old school combo. Shoot the box. Shoot the box. See, when you watch Shogun fight, you just want to go, just think of how many wars this guy's been in in the gym. Think of how many wars this guy's been in in the ring and then in the cage. And still doing the damn thing. Still doing it.
Starting point is 02:29:26 And you just want to fucking pluck his uniro. Still slaying it. Hey man, a little respect sir. Sir to my left, a little respect. Just an absolute warrior.
Starting point is 02:29:35 Like a warrior. That's how I would describe him. Yep. Like he's just doing the damn thing. Loves to fight. Again with that
Starting point is 02:29:42 overhand right. He keeps timing that well. He's starting to find openings, too. I think a lot of that is also going to the body enough. There's a kick for him. Yeah, a little baby one. A little head movement. A little movement.
Starting point is 02:29:55 Man, I'm not mad at Shogun. Sweep that fucking leg. He looks really good. I mean, he's taking some shots. And Vellante's no joke, man. Not at all, man. See, he keeps going to that body. I like how he's going to the body and mixing it up.
Starting point is 02:30:06 You guys ever read that book, Shogun? It's great. I don't think it's the same thing. Marius' brother, Ninja, he retired from concussions. He had some brain injuries. He had to get, like, surgery. Oh! Oh, we dinged him with that right hand. Dude, his feet are wobbly.
Starting point is 02:30:21 Dude, think about... Suddenly, Shogun looks bigger. Think about Valiante's freaking background, too. He's middle linebacker at Hofstra, so there has to be some sort of brain damage, you'd think. Dang. Or he's one of those dudes where it's no effect, you know? He's just one of those dudes who... Those dudes don't exist. Remember that Samoan guy who shot himself?
Starting point is 02:30:40 What was his name? Junior Seau. Junior Seau? Yeah. His favorite player. That guy is, like, no one's more durable than Smalls. Played 15 years. They're like the most durable human beings on the planet.
Starting point is 02:30:50 You're right. And everybody gets it in the long run. Mark Hunt saying, I beg the death of her. Yeah, he's not really though. Other than that last fight. Have you ever seen him go flatline like that? Only in the Melvin Manho fight. Remember Melvin caught him with the right hand coming in?
Starting point is 02:31:03 Yes, sir. Melvin Manho fought him. He knocked him out with one punch. He is smaller than him. Way smaller. Melvin Manho fight. Remember Melvin caught him with the right hand coming in. Melvin Manho fought him. He knocked him out. He is smaller than him. Way smaller. Melvin was 180. Oh, my God. I remember that.
Starting point is 02:31:11 Marquardt was 260. Oh, my God. And Melvin KO'd him with one punch coming in. K-1? K-1. Wow. Straight power speed. Was it K-1 or Pride?
Starting point is 02:31:20 Was it Pride? I feel like it was K-1. It was definitely an MMA fight. It wasn't a kickboxing fight, but it might have been Pride. But either way, see if you can find that, Jamie, what it is. Oh, Merck. Oh, it's Pride. That's Pride, bro.
Starting point is 02:31:33 No, it's K-1 Dynamite. Oh, that's what it is. Oh, yeah. Watch this, Brian, because this is crazy. Because Melvin is, I mean, at the most, at the most he's 200 pounds, but I don't think he is. Dude, he is not 200. I think he's 190 pounds, but I don't think he is. Dude, he is not too hondo. I think he's 190. Jack this fuck.
Starting point is 02:31:47 Maybe 85. Yeah. Well, he fought Robbie Lawler at 85 in Strikeforce, which means he's probably a little heavier than that and losing weight to get to 85. Young Mark Hunt. So let's say he's 95. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. So Mark Hunt is at least 60 pounds heavier than him.
Starting point is 02:32:01 Maybe more. Look at that. Look at the difference. That's some Japanese shit, folks. And it happens in the first round. He's got big gloves on. Just a few seconds in. Man, ho.
Starting point is 02:32:08 No, those are pride gloves. Yeah, those are pride gloves. The same as the K1 gloves. They were just different. They look like they were more padded than they were. Look how fast, man. Look at this. Boom, boom.
Starting point is 02:32:17 Boom. Oh, my God. Caught him coming in. Look at that. Wow. Dude, I would say the Overeem one was worse because it's flatlined. It was. Face first. For sure. That guy never fought say the Overeem one was worse because it's flatlined. It was. Face first. That guy never fought in the UFC.
Starting point is 02:32:28 Oh! Melvin never fought in the UFC. Shogun just fucking put the brakes on. Oh, he went to the body too. Shogun put the brakes on. Shogun's not fucking around, everybody. Here we go. Shoot the box. Shoot the box. That's it. There's only so much you can take.
Starting point is 02:32:43 Dude, you see Shogun go, boom. Wow. Dude, are you kidding me? That's it There's only so much you can take Wow Holy shit You kidding me We were watching an old fight while a new one was going on I got knocked out Velante's a fucking warrior But Shogun's too much Holy shit
Starting point is 02:32:58 Fucking Shogun Now if Shogun decides to go out now After that, respect Braz go out now After that Respect Yes Brazilians don't do that Name a Brazilian Respect always He goes out
Starting point is 02:33:08 Goes back to Rizin And Dumb dumb dumb Revives his career With the TRT Dude he's Rizin ranked top five After this
Starting point is 02:33:17 I like it I think that's I think that's A nice place for Older MMA fighters To go to Well it would be nice If there was a place
Starting point is 02:33:24 Like Pride was In it's glory days And if it's rising So be it There's that Russian league Oh look how he clipped him He caught him coming And clipped him right in the jaw
Starting point is 02:33:32 See how he put the brakes on I think I went to the body too Oh dude I like how he went to the body How about his cardio How does a billionaire Just pour it on like that Boom
Starting point is 02:33:38 That's smelling blood in the water Boom Boom Oh this is ruthless That is a fucking Phenomenal combination Jesus In the third round Tired From a war Oh, oh, oh, this is ruthless. That's not good. That is a fucking phenomenal combination Third round tired War but look how he doesn't run. Look at this
Starting point is 02:33:51 He just clipped him with that right hand that can like I was a body to me I digs the body there. I like how does it know how he doesn't rush in here how he keeps the distance So he maximum power here. Oh, man. So fucking good. Body. Oh, no. So good. That's so incredible. Great win for Shogun. Great win. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:34:12 Great win. Huge win. Huge. It makes me feel good when he wins for some reason. I'm not Brazilian. Do you know how crazy it must have been in Brazil to hear that roar? It must have went crazy when he won. He's got a Vitor fucking pulls it off.
Starting point is 02:34:24 Oh, my God. I'm so glad I don't know what happened. Me neither. I don't have a clue. It must have went crazy He's got a Vitor Fucking pulls it off Oh my god I'm so glad I don't know What happened Me neither I don't have a clue What does I mean I'm not sure
Starting point is 02:34:31 Something good Yeah he's never Had like a great body Pull ha means like Fuck Pull ha Pull ha He's got a fucking man body
Starting point is 02:34:40 He's a dime piece He's got a man's body Pull ha In Brazil Real lady puller Yeah I'm sure He's a man Well he's a He's a dime piece. He's got a man's body. In Brazil. Real lady puller. Yeah, I'm sure. He's a man. Well, he's also a sporting legend over there.
Starting point is 02:34:50 Yeah, he's like Michael Jordan in the streets of Chicago over there. I mean, he's probably not that much. Dude, him and Vitor and Anderson. Liotta was saying one of the reasons why he lives here is because back there, they can't even go out to eat, man. Really? Like, you can't do anything. Really? It's one of the reasons I live here.
Starting point is 02:35:05 It's just crazy. Like, he goes back all the time, you know, but for, like, Vitor, Amson, Liotto, Shogun, and Big Nog, think about bigger stars. I mean, it's the Brazilian soccer team, but that's their shit, man. Brazil fighting? Right.
Starting point is 02:35:20 Like peanut butter and jelly, son. Yeah, that's a good point. Here, we're like, eh, whatever. I bet Hoist. If Hoist goes over there, it's probably preposterous. Yeah. Yeah's a good point. Hair, we're like, eh, whatever. I bet hoist. But hoist goes over there. It's probably preposterous. Yeah. Yeah, Gracie.
Starting point is 02:35:29 Probably can't even move. Yeah, probably can't. Fucking Tim Tebow style. Can't go anywhere. There's a lot of fun movies coming out, man. This Life one looks kind of interesting. That new Alien. Did you see the trailer for it that they released?
Starting point is 02:35:40 The new Alien looks insane. I can't wait for that. Alien? Another one? Yes. Another one. It's been great. All those movies were amazing.
Starting point is 02:35:46 Does it have anything to do with the other ones? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's about before. It's about before. Yeah. You know how they pitched that movie Legend has it? Wasn't Prometheus kind of like that?
Starting point is 02:35:55 Dude, I loved Prometheus. It's after Prometheus. I loved Prometheus. It's after Prometheus before the more recent one. Yeah, I liked Prometheus. I liked it. So Prometheus- I loved it.
Starting point is 02:36:02 It has something to do with Alien. Yes. That's the start. It's the start. Yeah. The idea is that big guy in Prometheus, those weird alien people looking things, those were aliens from another planet. They got jacked by the alien alien first. And one thing I didn't like about Prometheus is when that gigantic starship spaceship crashes
Starting point is 02:36:21 on top of that chick. And kills her? No. She crawls out from underneath. Well, something protected her. It's the movie. As a whole. Super, super important that they follow the rules of physics.
Starting point is 02:36:31 Oh, but the giant alien didn't fucking have anything to do with it? You know what they say? The legend has it how they sold that alien in the room when they walked in. The producers went, so what's your pitch? And they went, Jaws in space. You interested? They're like, yes, we are. Here you go. That'll do it, man. Well, it's interesting also that. the producers went go so what's your pitch and they went jaws in space you interested they're like yes we are here gotta do it yeah well it's interesting also that they that hr geiger guy that
Starting point is 02:36:51 artist sort of revolutionized what we thought horror monsters would be he created something that was so entirely different than any other alien landscape before and very dark and evil and satanic in some sort of a weird way. And also that alien itself was so much different than any other idea. We'd always had this idea of like these super intelligent things from other planets. Someone's like, no, how about a giant bug thing that just eats everything it can find and grows like that and plants its egg in your body. Yeah. How about that?
Starting point is 02:37:22 Did you guys watch Predator vs. Alien? You guys into that? No. Fuck that movie. Fuck that noise. As soon as they start doing that. Single greatest movie of all time. There, I said it.
Starting point is 02:37:31 What was that? I'm going to go pee out of my huge tank and I'll be right back. Predator vs. Alien? Dracula vs. The Wolfman. I don't fucking know. I don't like when they mix them. I love Predator though. They should have like Predator vs. Fast and the Furious.
Starting point is 02:37:41 All those shitheads racing their cars down residential roads. Just get murked. I'll get murked by Predator. I'd pay for that. I watched one of those Fast and the Furious the All those shitheads racing their cars down residential roads. I'll get murked by Predator. I'd pay for that. I watched one of those Fast and the Furious the other day, and we were like, how many of them were there? And then we looked it up. There was 10.
Starting point is 02:37:52 10 of those stupid fucking movies. There was 10. 10 movies. They're on the eighth one right now. What? They're only on the eighth one right now. Come on. They're doing more, though.
Starting point is 02:38:00 Right now, F8 is coming. Why did it say 10 when I Googled it? Well, they might be under contract with 10. They're doing more, Joe. Is that what it is? You know they're redoing Predator without Arlo. Wait, first of all, how can you just pull that out? How do you know how many Fast and Furious?
Starting point is 02:38:14 Why would you have that information? There's a big giant billboard on my way here, like at Hollywood and whatever, Franklin or something. I don't get down with those action movies, man. Do nothing for me. It says there are 10 Fast and the Furious movies. In the works, aren't contracted. Dude, who's going to play Arnold in The New Predator?
Starting point is 02:38:33 Enjoy that role. That's a good question. Or do you know the remake in Scarface? Who's going to play fucking Tony Montana? The remake in Scarface? Vin Diesel confirms Fast and the Furious 8, 9, and 10. That's what it is. Just pushed Avatar back a whole other year.
Starting point is 02:38:46 Oh! Fuck, Jamie. Yeah, sorry. Why? I don't know. It's something yesterday. James Cameron probably drowned somebody accidentally. 2019.
Starting point is 02:38:54 Dude. One of his crazy-ass fucking submarines. Goddamn it. I mean, how are you going to release Avatar 2 fucking how many years? 15 years later? It's too long. It's supposed to be sick, though. That's like the Entourage
Starting point is 02:39:05 fucking movie. It's way too long. No, don't compare those two, you son of a bitch. Oh my god. Son of a bitch. Avatar 2 Oh my god. Hey, there's an Avatar ride at Universal. When was it supposed to come out, Jamie? 2018. When is it supposed to come out this year? It's supposed to come out next year, but they pushed
Starting point is 02:39:21 it back farther. When is it going to arrive? I love Avatar. Maybe 2019. Wow, so it will be 10 years. Wow. Avatar? It was 10 years ago? No, look what he says, though, son. We're not making Avatar 2. We're making Avatar 2, 3, 4, and 5. Yeah, they're making all of them. He just finished the story. I love it. Epic Undertaking
Starting point is 02:39:37 director says a franchise around 2009 blockbuster. Oh, so they're going to do them all together. I forgive them. So they're going to have one. They're going to release another one. And then another one afterwards. I'm waiting. But everybody I know criticized that movie. And I loved it.
Starting point is 02:39:49 Did you not love it? You talk to assholes. Yeah, we loved that movie. I thought it was amazing. I loved it. Loved it. Game changer. It was so cliche.
Starting point is 02:39:55 I was like, cliche. Well, it's Ferngully. It's Pocahontas. It's Pocahontas. It's Ferngully. Amazing. It's that too. Well, you know.
Starting point is 02:40:02 Classic story. There's only so many fucking real archetypal stories of heroes Look at this Vitor Belford Kelvin Gasolam Here's my take on this. I think Kelvin's gas tank is fucking hugely superior But if Vitor can swarm him in the first round He's been known to be able to put anybody on queer Street Yeah, Vitor has one round to get it done But I'm telling you Kelvin Gasolam takes a punch about as good as any fucking human being alive his his jaw is amazing
Starting point is 02:40:30 you never see kelvin get hurt i mean he's a tank he's an excellent wrestler and he knows how to win man i mean he know how he went to win on the ultimate fighter when nobody sort of thought that he was going to be winning that show everybody Everybody's looking to Uriah Hall. He tuned up Tim Kennedy. I mean, he tuned him up, man. That was an insane fight. Insane fight. Tim is making a save for democracy. Well, you know what it is?
Starting point is 02:40:58 Tim trained for two different fights and went through two camps, and I think he was really overtrained and he looked like he wasn't recovering well in that fight I think he also has a lot of other options you know he's kind of half in half out maybe but I don't think that's what did him in I think what did him in is his cardio and he's known for his cardio so I think what happened was not only anything is the weight cut as much as it's over training and all his training partners think that it's over training mmm but it's the weight cut as much as it's overtraining. His training partners think that it's overtraining.
Starting point is 02:41:25 But it's also Kelvin Gastelum. I mean, Kelvin might have got him even if he had everything going for him because Tim is like a thick, solid, super strong grappler, but kind of plodding on the feet. He doesn't throw anything with lightning fast precision, but Kelvin, the punches come like lightning, man. And he doesn't load up on his punches. He's constantly moving and constantly moving in and out with his footwork.
Starting point is 02:41:54 He's getting a lot better. He's getting better fast, dude. You see improvements fight after fight. I was never really on the Kelvin train, and then after that one, I was like, God damn, he's going to be trouble, especially at 85. I think the top five is going to be a real challenge for him. But outside that, he's a monster.
Starting point is 02:42:11 Dude, when they show the TRT video. I was going to say, the difference between him on TRT, it's literally so night and day, it's ridiculous. It's insane. So scary. But he knocked out Dan Henderson in that fight, the last one, that was no TRT. Yeah, the Chris Weidman won kind of That was a bad one Well how about Mousasi, Mousasi beat the fuck out of him too
Starting point is 02:42:32 Mousasi went through the first round Survived the storm, said what he was going to do He said I'm going to take him in the first round And I'm going to knock him out And he took him out of the first round Took him into the second And just wore his ass out. Vitor just can't sustain.
Starting point is 02:42:46 Look at Vitor. That's Kelvin there. No, Victor. I'm sorry. I said Vitor. I meant Victor. Master Vic. I like Kelvin with his confidence.
Starting point is 02:42:56 Yeah, he has zero fear. Yes. One of the nicest guys on the planet. Well-spoken. No fear. Trains his ass off. I heard he enjoys marijuana. Is that true?
Starting point is 02:43:06 I'm not saying that. There's no need to discuss this further. He does like natural medicines. Oh, that's important. That's big time. Bed and paint guys. He does like natural medicines. I'm a big fan.
Starting point is 02:43:19 Big fan. Look at Victor dancing in the background. Who is Victor? Victor Davila. He's one of the 10th Planet Black Bolts. Oh, okay. Because he trained. Co-owner at EBI.
Starting point is 02:43:28 And he does the My Job for the UFC in Spanish. They let him have this night off for this. Do they? Oh, that's cool. Beautiful. So he could do this. And he trains out of Kings, too, full-time now? Kelvin?
Starting point is 02:43:42 He's listening to a song in his head over there. And he lives He lives with Master Vic They live together They're like best friends now Oh shit Wow Where do they live
Starting point is 02:43:52 Not specifically Huntington Beach Okay That's a good spot If you're going to be a fighter Yeah it really is There's something about Orange County man
Starting point is 02:43:58 Especially down the beach area Like Huntington Beach In particular man There's a lot of great gyms There's so many gyms down Especially Jiu Jitsu There's just all sorts Of things going on down there Well LA in particular man there's a lot of great gyms there's so many gyms down especially jiu-jitsu there's just all sorts of things going on well LA in particular man I mean is there another place that's more of a hotbed for martial arts like on the level that
Starting point is 02:44:12 this place is like New York and LA are the two I'd say I'd say New York and uh Florida Florida's giant the what what LA doesn't have is it doesn't have like an American top team where you have like a one wealthy guy who funds this gigantic organization. No, not in LA. Northern Cali does though with AK and then Team Alpha Male. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But Dan Lambert, what he's done down there in Southern Florida, something
Starting point is 02:44:37 special. It is special. And they've been around for a while too. And Dan Lambert's dumped a lot of cash into that. A lot of cash. Smart guy, man. Loves MMA. Loves it.
Starting point is 02:44:50 I mean, he was like, he's what you would really want. A knowledgeable guy. For sure, pull that crack up. See the little
Starting point is 02:44:57 booty crack there? Kelvin. I'm distracted by his legs. Pull it up. Ooh, powerful Vitor coming. Kelvin's always
Starting point is 02:45:03 adding new stuff, too. Guys, this is interesting. New stuff. Every fight, he's got something new. Who's this. Ooh, powerful Vitor coming. Calvin's always adding new stuff, too. Guys, this is interesting. New stuff. Every fight, he's got something new. Who's this? Calvin. Kelvin throwing spinning kicks, throwing crazy shit on the ground. On the ground, he's very underrated. He's a 10th Planet guy, too. He has a brown belt.
Starting point is 02:45:15 Nice. What Calvin has that really impresses the shit out of me, too, is his footwork. His movement, like, is so light on his feet. Cordero. He leaps in and pops that jab. Uh-oh. Vitor. Straight left. Vitor's looking good, man.
Starting point is 02:45:27 I feel like Kelvin and Tony Ferguson have that same kind of mentality. Just that freaking no fear. Mexicans. They both know how to have fun. Scary Mexicans. They're fearless. They know how to have fun on the ring. They're so relaxed on the ring.
Starting point is 02:45:39 They want to be in there. Oh, they love it. They love it. What percentage of Mexican is Tony Ferguson? 100%. He's 100%? But the last name is Ferguson. They love it. What percentage of Mexican is Tony Ferguson? 100%. He's 100%? But the last name is Ferguson. His stepdad.
Starting point is 02:45:48 Oh. He's full of Mexican. That's interesting. He's a regular Mexican dude with a white stepdad. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's interesting. A little bit of white flavor on him.
Starting point is 02:45:58 I'm liking the way, I'm liking the look in Vitor's eyes. I'm liking the crease in his neck. I'm feeling like he's coming in with more than dad bod. That's all I'm going to say. Well, you had dad bod at the weigh-in. How would that be possible? Okay. Didn't see the weigh-in. Didn't see the weigh-in. But that was only 24 hours before this. Didn't, sir. Didn't see it.
Starting point is 02:46:15 Because a lot of things can change in 24 fucking hours. That's what I'm trying to say. What can change? Tell me about rehydration of the body. Well, he looks intense. Yeah, he does look fucking intense, which is my point. Fortaleza Strong jaw Haven't seen his jaw That looked that strong In a long time
Starting point is 02:46:29 I love Vitor man Why don't you marry him You guys don't know What happens You don't know What happens Fucking burn I have no idea
Starting point is 02:46:36 I have no idea I don't know A single thing I stayed off Twitter I do not know I posted I stayed on I'm so proud of myself
Starting point is 02:46:41 Me too This is the first time I've ever watched a fight card Without having any idea What was going to happen in any of the fights. It's because there's more boxing on. He didn't look bad yesterday. By the way, that's Morton Dadbot, dude.
Starting point is 02:46:50 He definitely looks better than he looked against Weidman. He definitely looks better than he looked against Weidman. More aerodynamic. Way more aerodynamic. Yeah, dude. Look at him right there. That definitely looks better. Like in this right here, we're seeing him rehydrated.
Starting point is 02:47:02 He looks better than he looked against Weidman. Yeah, he does. When he went into the room against Weidman, into the octagon rather, you could see his loose skin jiggling around while he was jumping up and down. Yeah, that was rough. Yeah. Come on, man. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:47:12 He looks not bad there. He looks aggressive as shit. He looks like a powerful older man. Hey. Well, that's what he is. Whereas when he was on TRT, he looked like a science project. He looked like a mutant. Because that's what he was.
Starting point is 02:47:24 like a science project because that's what he was he's a science project how old is he now 38 he's 39 or 40. he's been fighting for 20 years pass some of that sweet sweet wine this way sorry buddy i've been passing up with that natural medicines oh i got some of that i gotta give ed Eddie a little more of that. Jamie, remind me to bring some. You know I'm drunk. Yeah, of course. Come on. A couple guys hanging out. Gas Joe.
Starting point is 02:47:49 No, no, no. We're not asking Joe. No, no, no. I'm not doing nothing. Eddie, Eddie, I got you. Who doesn't? You're a grown man. Don't I have you every time?
Starting point is 02:47:55 I won't present conspiracies. Have another cup. Bro, I got you. Have a cup. Let's definitely not talk over each other and definitely not give Eddie any. I'm giving him a taste of wine. Eddie's smart, man. He's smart.
Starting point is 02:48:04 I know he's smart. He's my boy. He's smart. He taste of wine. He's smart, man. He's smart. He's my boy. Here we go, folks. Here we go. Let me give my boy some wine. Vitor Belfort. Fuck yeah, I'm excited about this. 25 to the... I'm giving him an inch of wine. Oh, you're such a Nazi, you fucking wine- He knows. Eddie knows.
Starting point is 02:48:21 He doesn't want to go crazy Pizzagate. He doesn't want to do it on you. Pizzagate's over We're done with that shit Pizzagate that's in the past That's what I'm saying Here we go Main event folks
Starting point is 02:48:31 It's just kids Who cares You're driving me to the comedy store You know that right Am I I don't have my car Alright Put your feet up on my car
Starting point is 02:48:41 I'm gonna pound your dick in Why don't you have your car, Brian? Well, I didn't know we were doing a podcast before. I called him just by coincidence. You've been talking about it for days. Whatever. No, 530. We only posted this morning.
Starting point is 02:48:55 Whatever. We only decided on Wednesday. I think you liked our pictures. You called on mine. Can't wait. I don't think I've ever liked a picture. Well, that's not good. Ever. Why are people going to like yours now? I don't know. I don't think I've ever liked a picture. Well, that's not good. Ever.
Starting point is 02:49:06 Why are people going to like yours now? No, I don't mean it in a personal way. You're just bad on social media. Yeah, I just don't read a lot of... That's probably good, too. Yeah. Damn. Calvin looks so calm.
Starting point is 02:49:16 Don't read. You know who's cool as shit, too? Rafael Cordero. Oh, he's the best. He's so nice. He's the nicest guy. Oh, man. He's so nice.
Starting point is 02:49:24 I love that guy. I love it when guys that are involved in this sport, such a violent sport, can be like sweethearts. There's not a lot of dicks. Don't you think it's because they've been humbled? Like everybody who's really gotten in the sport has been knocked out, has been humbled? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:35 You know what I mean? Isn't it impossible to be cocky? Duke Rufus, super cool. The nicest. Even Conor McGregor, as cocky as he seems, when he loses or wins, he's always gracious. Gary Garbrandt. I met him for the first time last weekend in Vegas.
Starting point is 02:49:48 Cody Garbrandt? Cody. What did I say? Gary. Gary. Cody, I'm sorry. I'm going to stay silent. I don't know Gary.
Starting point is 02:49:54 Super nice guy as well. Oh, yeah. Cody's a great guy. That guy, after he did that, he had that kid with him and stuff. That guy can do no wrong for me. Cody Garbrandt? Fuck, he's your next superstar, man. They need to invest some fucking PR in that kid. He just shot a commercial, but yeah, he's your next superstar man they need to invest from fucking he's awesome pr that kid
Starting point is 02:50:05 he just shot a commercial but yeah he's the real deal he looks like a shit starter you know what i mean but he's not super nice skills to back it up dress as well speaks well world champion beat dominic cruz i know it's interesting when you see him in that full suit and you see all the neck tattoos you're like this is interesting what he's doing here. He's like polishing up a murderer. Yes. Yeah. When he's inside that octagon, dude, he's murking people. It's like painting your pitbull's toenails. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:50:30 He's just fucking fast. He just got some fans in Brazil, huh? It's a hard-looking man. Fuck, man. Oh, they go crazy for him. Yes. Here we go. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 02:50:39 Look at that. Calvin looks so calm. No one is more calm in there than Calvin. I'm confident. I think part of the reason is because he takes such a good shot. I mean, obviously, he's really good, and he's just confident, period. But Calvin's got that chin is fucking iron. Yeah, that has to help you, right? It has, for sure.
Starting point is 02:50:56 Because you know you can make a little mistake and still get away with it. You can get away with it. That's Chuck in his prime. In Chuck's prime, one of his biggest assets was his chin. Chuck's chin was phenomenal. Yeah, man. See, now watch how good Calvin moves on his prime. In Chuck's prime, one of his biggest assets was his chin. Chuck's chin was phenomenal. Yeah, man. See, now watch how good Calvin moves on his feet. He's real light.
Starting point is 02:51:10 He's in and out. Look how much distance he covers forward and back. Just to let you know, he's nowhere near you. He's kind of close, but then he's nowhere near you. Oh, he can switch it up, man. That's a pain in the ass. He's into being as unorthodox as possible. He's into that. It's important
Starting point is 02:51:25 because from the southpaw position he shuts down that high kick. It's much harder for Vito so Vito has to kick off of that left. Or excuse me, off the right. That was a little snap kick to the chin. Nice shorts Vito. He's going old school. Man, I'm not mad at it.
Starting point is 02:51:42 Oh! Almost wheel kick. Don't get caught with one of those. Everybody calm down. Stay calm. That should have knocked your eye loose. Oh, shit. He's got some hands. He's still got the speed.
Starting point is 02:51:50 Speed doesn't go when you're 38, 40, when you're Vitor, guys. Is he 40? Oh! Oh! Oh, shit! Oh, my God. That's some heavy shit being thrown. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:51:57 He's feeling very explosive. Heavy shit. Oh, my God. Vitor's fastest. Still. And he's always moved amazing. I mean, Vitor's about as pro as you can be. God, Kelvin is just walking him down.
Starting point is 02:52:08 The thing about Vitor, though, is that he can't do this for every round. He's got five rounds. He has five minutes of future. Yeah. This is a five-round main event. Oh, beautiful head movement. No, he's not really going that way. Oh!
Starting point is 02:52:21 Kelvin got clipped there a little bit. I love the way Kelvin raises his hands. Dude, I'm telling you, man. Kelvin will start. Ooh, good kick to the body there by Vitor. Oh! Yikes. Kelvin will be able to pour it on when Vitor starts to wilt.
Starting point is 02:52:37 And that's when it's going to get interesting. What if Kelvin can try and grapple, too, at all? And the thing about Vitor,itor too is he's never really, except for the rumble fight, the rumble fight he actually did come back from behind. He was losing that fight. Easy with those knees. He was losing that. Oh, he's hurt.
Starting point is 02:52:56 He's hurt. It was that right hand there that hurt him. His head got snapped back. Look at his nose, son. He throws a mean straight left. This Kelvin compared to Tim Kenny Kelvin. Different animal. Looks even better.
Starting point is 02:53:14 He's so good and he's so young. And he's been lifting too to move into 185. Damn, that jab. His hands are smooth, man. And he fires jabs like his body can be at off angles. Yeah, like his distance. Especially, he's not a long guy.
Starting point is 02:53:29 No. But he uses it. Oh, shit. Tried the wheel kick again. Oh, way to get out of there. Boom! Wow. Oh!
Starting point is 02:53:37 Oh! Oh, that's over. Oh, boy. Oh, that's over. Stop the fight, son. Hold on. Hold on. Goddamn.
Starting point is 02:53:43 Is it Mario? Hold on. He's kicking up. Is it Mario? Dude, they could have easily Stop the fight, son. Hold on. Hold on. Goddamn. Is it Mario? Hold on. He's kicking up. Is it Mario? Dude, they could have easily stopped that fight. Oh, Kelvin. You're going to earn this. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:53:52 You're going to earn this. Wow. This is Brazil, guys. This is fucking Brazil. Relax. Everybody calm down. Oh, I'm trying. He loves it.
Starting point is 02:53:59 Look at that. Oh, that's his shit right there. It's the wrong side, though. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. He can make it. He can make it. Against the cage can be tough, man. It doesn't matter. There's no room. He can make it. He can make it. Against the cage can be tough, man.
Starting point is 02:54:05 It doesn't matter. There's no room. You stay in the mouth. You don't even need to get on the side. That's old school. You can't move, though, Eddie, with the cage, right? Look at Vitor getting up. He's going to the back.
Starting point is 02:54:14 Look at Vitor. Oh, my God, Vitor. Vitor back up. Wow. Oh, you got to give it up. He survived. Are you kidding me? Oh, it's Big John's the ref.
Starting point is 02:54:23 Big John McCarthy. Way to go. Oh, look at this. Big John made it happen. Are you kidding me right now? it's Big John's the ref. Big John McCarthy. Way to go. Oh, look at this. Big John made it happen. Are you kidding me right now? He's wobbly. He's wobbly. But he did throw some shit right there.
Starting point is 02:54:31 Yeah, he did. And a great underhook. He's still dangerous. Vitor's still dangerous. Fuck yes. But he's not on steady legs. That straight left comes down the pipe, though. Oh, that caught him.
Starting point is 02:54:40 He tagged him. He tagged him with that jab. His jab is so crisp. Who's that? Kelvin. Kelvin's. His boxing with that jab. His jab is so crisp. Who's that? Kelvin. Kelvin. His boxing looks ridiculous. Kelvin's jab is so nasty.
Starting point is 02:54:48 And he throws that jab right hook. Oh, shit. Come on. Oh, his fucking hands, man. Kelvin's hands are fast as fuck. Oh, shit. Jesus. God damn it, Kelvin.
Starting point is 02:54:59 He threw two one-twos in a row. He went, bish, bish, bish, bish, bish. And the first one was barely up. Again, damn. He covers a lot of ground with those lefts. It's weird because he doesn't have a long reach, but he keeps great distance. It's footwork, man. He has wide-ass shoulders. I think if you measure
Starting point is 02:55:16 his shoulders, I think he's pretty long. Now let's talk about this, because Calvin had been talking about going down to 170. And you look at how good he looked in a Tim Kennedy fight, and then looked even fucking better against Vitor. I like him at 85. Stop depleting himself. At 185, he looks like a fucking world champion.
Starting point is 02:55:35 Holy shit. Look at this. Boom. Bing. Boom. Oh, look at that left. Good Lord. Bing.
Starting point is 02:55:45 Look at the distance. Oh, look at that left! Good lord! Bing! Look at the distance! Oh my goodness! Joe, here's the argument for 70, though. He went to a split decision with Woodley? So what? Woodley's the champ! Yeah, but you know why he went to a split decision? Damn!
Starting point is 02:55:59 Because he was depleting his body. When does that happen? I hate seeing it. When does that happen? 1-2, 1-2. 1-2. 1-2. He's bleeding his body. Has that ever? Yeah. When does that happen? I hate seeing it. When does that happen? I hate seeing somebody get hit like that. One, two. One, two. That first one was barely off.
Starting point is 02:56:10 Brilliant. Brilliant. Then he readjusted and knocked him out. But he threw him straight down the pipe. Brilliant. Good job, John McCarthy. Good job all the way around, too. Yeah, good job not stopping it and then stopping it when it was over.
Starting point is 02:56:19 Yes. Fucking amazing. Hands down, Big John's the best. Oh, man. Fucking amazing. How about Calvin? What a fucking renaissance. He's getting better. Hands down. Big John's the best. Fucking amazing. How about Calvin? What a fucking renaissance. He's getting better every fight, man.
Starting point is 02:56:28 Jesus Christ. Wow. What do you do next with him? Eddie? What can you do? You're his coach. What would you do next with him? Title shot.
Starting point is 02:56:35 What can you do? Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, you're his coach. Yep. What can you do? Title shot. Oh, so he jumps over your Romero, Jock Ray, Luke Rockhold. But here's the question.
Starting point is 02:56:44 What about winner? Here's the question. If you're making this big GSP. But hold on. If you're making this big GSP, Michael Biss being superfied, do you make Joel Romero versus this motherfucker? No, no. No, you don't do this yet.
Starting point is 02:56:56 I'm the undercard. Hold on. Fuck Joe. Brandon, what do you have to say? Joe's got a mischievous mind right now. For the interim title. Another interim title. Let's do it
Starting point is 02:57:05 You get a belt You get a belt He's a troublemaker What do you say about that? No it's too much for Calvin We take the Oprah Winfrey approach The worst matchup possible for him right now Just because of his wrestling
Starting point is 02:57:15 Yeah not yet man Because he You know that's an older Vitor Let's not get crazy He beat Tim Kenny That one foot out Yoel Romero's the same age But yoel's
Starting point is 02:57:22 Sir Yoel versus Vitor Yeah a little different They, a little different. They're a little different. A little bit different. The Golden Snitch comes after one. He's good. The other, we don't know. A little different. I would like Kelvin to fight a guy.
Starting point is 02:57:35 I think a great fight. Obviously, you'd have to beat Musashi. I'd like to see Weidman versus Kelvin. I think that'd be a fun fight. I don't want a top four, three guy fight yet. He's 25! If he uses Yul, what do we do? You're right. I don't want a top four, three guy for him yet. He's 25. If he uses Yul, what do we do? I really hope he stays at 185 and I think he could be a champion.
Starting point is 02:57:52 I think he's got everything it takes to be a champion. But bring him up slower. Who knows? How the fuck did he beat this guy? How the fuck did Michael Bisping beat him? How did Michael Bisping beat Rockhold? He might lose to Rockhold or he might tune Rockhold up the same way he saw him do to Vitor tonight. You don't know.
Starting point is 02:58:10 He's a great fighter. I mean, that kid, his movement and his accuracy and his combinations, his punches, is fucking phenomenal. His ability to survive on the ground against Tim Kennedy in that first round and virtually burn no energy, came out of that, survived, and then started beating the shit out of Tim. And you're like, well, maybe Tim Kennedy did really overtrain. Maybe he's not really prepared. Look what the fuck he did tonight to Vitor.
Starting point is 02:58:34 Big difference between Vitor Belfort at 38 off TRT and the Jacare, Yoel Romero, and Luke Rockhold. Big difference. Can he beat them? Yes, right now. Who knows? It would be very difficult. But this is the Can he beat them? Yes, right now. Who knows? It would be very difficult. But this is the next step, right?
Starting point is 02:58:47 The next logical step. The number top three. How's that the next step? That's insane. I think the next logical step. I feel like Kelvin is top ten. Yes, top ten, yes. I'm saying top five.
Starting point is 02:58:55 I think after the Kennedy fight, I think he was ten. What was he ranked after the Kennedy fight? Isn't he like eight? No, I think he's nine, isn't he? He might be ten and Vitor's nine. I don't pay attention to that. So if that's the case, I feel like he's in the top six or seven now. I think he's 9, isn't he? He might be 10 and Vitor's 9. I don't pay attention to Mikey. So if that's the case, I feel like he's in the top 6 or 7 now. I think he's moved up, right?
Starting point is 02:59:08 This is a phenomenal performance. He's 2-0 at middleweight. He looked amazing against, and on the feet. It was all on the feet. Against one of the best strikers in the game. Did you go, aww, when you saw Vitor's face? Kelvin's 10. Kelvin's 10.
Starting point is 02:59:22 It bums me out when I see a great lose. What about Robert Whitaker? That'd be a fun fight. Oh, Jesus Christ. There's 10. It bums me out when I see a great lose. What about Robert Whitaker? That'd be a fun fight. Oh, Jesus Christ. There's a fucking barn burner for you. But Whitaker has a barn burner coming up. Jacare. Oh.
Starting point is 02:59:33 Damn, that's going to be nuts. That's a fucking fight. I don't think you give Kelvin to Jacare or any of those guys quite yet. So did you know the result of this fight, Eddie? Yeah. You knew what round and the whole deal? I didn't know what round. Was it the first round?
Starting point is 02:59:48 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there you go. What about Derek Brunson or Anderson Silva? Yeah, that's interesting. But wait a minute. This is not current. It can't be because Vitor's still ahead of them.
Starting point is 03:00:00 Well, they're not going to update it tonight, right? But the fight was yesterday. I guess they'll probably wait until Monday. But, yeah, look, that to update it tonight, right? But the fight was yesterday. I would have thought they would. I guess they'd probably wait until Monday. But, yeah, look, that's a crazy division, right? And Derek Brunson and Anderson Silva just getting done with their fight. Robert Whitaker. Brunson makes sense out of that. It's not a big name fight, though, for him.
Starting point is 03:00:18 Yeah. But you've got Anderson Silva, Brunson, Robert Whitaker has a date. Musashi has a date. Weinman has a date. Souza. Everyone has a date except for Rockhold. Yeah, and Rockhold has been talking about Bisping. He's waiting for Bisping.
Starting point is 03:00:31 He wants to kick Bisping's ass. But Bisping and GSP don't even have a date. So what are you going to do, Rockhold? Where are they going to do that fight? They don't know, do they? Is this the first time they've ever announced a fight without a date or a venue? I feel like it's got to be the 4th of July weekend, rightuly weekend right you would think yeah if you want to knock something out of the park what does it say there bisping versus saint pierre does it say a number you go look over there
Starting point is 03:00:53 in that little picture it says march 3rd press conference okay so they don't have a date i would imagine if we're looking we're already in march april may june july four months from now that's very reasonable right there's something with gsp he. Four months from now, that's very reasonable. There's something with GSP he didn't want to fight. Well, that's Jon Jones weekend, too. That's when Jon Jones returns. Jon Jones, Anthony Johnson, Jon Jones DC. On the undercover.
Starting point is 03:01:18 Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus. That's going to be scary. Jon Jones coming back. Enjoy that. Either one. On the undercard of Bisping versus GSP. Holy shit, what a card. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 03:01:29 What a card. Dude. Hey, Eddie Bravo, what happened with you and Michael Bisping? We heard that there was this crazy argument, and there's a video of you guys talking, but it seems like you're working it out. Bisping's my friend. It's like when you're arguing with your friends, people like people think oh the were they gonna fight not for one second Did I think a fight was gonna go down, you know, you know every time I I You know talk about Mike this being or anyone else. They usually say
Starting point is 03:01:57 he visibly improves from fight to fight you could see it and I you know, I'm sure he's sick of hearing that and i was talking about that i was complimenting him but then i could see how he thought like that implied that you know he was uh you know subpar at one point you know so he was like i take offense to that man i was always a badass ever since the the ultimate fighter show you know and i i i understand where he's coming from you know so it was just a misinterpretation of what you were describing yeah then we just started talking about like you know he's fighting GSP he's a good dude yeah then great guy we were we were arguing and he was getting like kind of like insulted
Starting point is 03:02:35 he's like I'm insulted when people say that I'm like I'm sorry I get it you know I get it I was trying to compliment you I'm saying I'm trying to say good things about you but I see how you could see. I should have kept my mouth shut. Was there a couple of adult beverages going around, too? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, there you go. But, you know, by the end of that conversation,
Starting point is 03:02:52 they didn't have a good one. You guys were good. Yeah, he's like, dude, I should come up and train with you because I'm fighting GSP. You know he's going to want to take me down. I should get good off my back. I go, yeah, come on up, you know. We were, yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:02 And he didn't even remember. He's such a competitive guy. He didn't even remember. That's a competitive guy He didn't even remember That's what makes him great He's not gonna give you an answer Yeah no no We're all cool He DM'd me on Twitter
Starting point is 03:03:10 Said dude sorry about last night I go dude don't even trip You know I should've kept my mouth shut He's the biggest fighter In his life coming up That's not People think They go it's the easiest fight for GSB
Starting point is 03:03:19 That's a tough fucking fight For George man It's a very tough fight Think about Bisping's Takedown defense Who says it's the easiest fight For GSB That's crazy He's way Think about Bisping's takedown defense. Who says it's the easiest fight for GSP? That's crazy. He's way bigger. Michael Bisping is a
Starting point is 03:03:28 legit 185 who fought at 205. Remember, he won the Ultimate Fighter. Oh my god, look at that combination. Beautiful one, too. Look at that again. They're showing it again. Fucking incredible. He looks so good. God damn. I beat one legend, I want to beat another one.
Starting point is 03:03:44 Calls out Spider Anderson He wants that old man tour For UFC 212 in Rio I don't blame him Wow It's a good idea Fighting these legends Smoking them
Starting point is 03:03:51 I don't know if I want to see that man You know what I'm saying I'd rather see that Than him versus Jacare Or some shit Derek Brunson seemed like Like he was hypnotized By Anderson
Starting point is 03:04:01 He had too much respect for him Yeah There was moments where Just punch him in the face sir He just didn't seem like He just didn't seem like... It just didn't seem like he found his groove. Plus, it was him coming off the knockout loss to Robert Whittaker. Bad knockout.
Starting point is 03:04:12 He's on a long... He's a little tentative. Trying to switch things up. A little tentative, yeah. He tried to go a little technical. Against Anderson. So, a bad idea. No one wants...
Starting point is 03:04:20 You know, the fans lost in that fight. That fight sucked. How dare you? Sorry. It wasn't the best fight. It wasn't the best fight. It wasn't the best fight. Is this new guy here? Yeah, Todd Grisham.
Starting point is 03:04:29 Is he good? I honestly have not listened to him at all. Because the last time he was doing something, we were doing a fight companion, so we talked over his work. Whose spot did he take? Karen Bryant? For this, I think Karen. He didn't really take Goldberg's spot. Well, he's doing some of the ones that Anik would have done,
Starting point is 03:04:50 and Anik has kind of taken up Goldberg's spot. I like you and Dom together. The chemistry in you and Dom is the best for me, I think. I like him. I like doing it with him, and I like doing it with DC, too. I like both of them. You know what makes Bisping so incredible is not only did he— Eve—is that the fact
Starting point is 03:05:06 that he's he got the belt basically with half an eye too that's gotta play a factor he did after 10 years man like he's been grinding yeah
Starting point is 03:05:13 like he deserves he never got caught for any PADs or all claims he lost to only PAD guys really yeah like he's been fucked man
Starting point is 03:05:21 and he becomes champ on a 7 day notice shooting a movie badass knocks out Luke Rockhold. Beats him. He's not Silva. And then he revenges his loss against Dan Henderson.
Starting point is 03:05:29 It's nuts. His story's so cool, man. It is a crazy story. It's beautiful. I mean, it's all just heart and will. Look at this combination, man. Him and Vitor. I mean, oh, see how he tagged him with that jab and snapped his head back?
Starting point is 03:05:44 Vitor's still got that spinning kick, though. Yeah, he keeps looking for it, though. Oh, Jesus, when he gets his head snapped back. Big John. That's a function of a younger, faster guy. Well, Vitor never had combinations like that. Vitor's combinations were like straight line, blitzkrieg attacks. What Calvin's doing is hitting these crazy angles with beautiful precision.
Starting point is 03:06:07 Like if you look at the way he's delivering his punches, it's really some next level shit. He's one of the best punchers in MMA right now because what he's doing is he's sliding in and he's not loading up on these shots. He's throwing them with perfect efficiency and just ta-ting, ta-ting in his fucking accuracy. Straight, what you don't see a lot. Speed, straight, everything. him with perfect efficiency and just ta-ting ta-ting and his fucking accuracy straight what
Starting point is 03:06:25 you don't see speed straight everything and he moves his body side to side really well like he's look how he's like look at like he's oh man it's beautiful the way he lands that left hand it's fucking phenomenal it's hard as shit too you gotta go into the look at this come on bang look at me straight down the pipe with that left hand. Good lord. Look at this. Don't dink! Was that an elbow?
Starting point is 03:06:49 No, no. Just punches, man. Jesus. One, two. Excellent. Bang! Oh! What a beautiful shot.
Starting point is 03:06:56 Overwhelmed. Don't ever bring that shit into my fucking cage. It's like a 1980s show that got canceled after two episodes. You don't know, dude. About a group of mercenaries and they cage fight on the side. Yeah. It's a a 1980s show That got cancelled After two episodes You don't know dude About a group of mercenaries And they cage fight on the side Yeah To bad pop
Starting point is 03:07:08 They have to choose Whether or not they're gonna Work for the government Or pursue a career In cage fighting That's a movie I don't wanna see Cage fighting wasn't even a real thing You guys gotta make a fucking choice
Starting point is 03:07:18 They had cage fighting But they wore those PKA karate shoes From like the 1980s And they wore long Those long shiny pants Yeah Remember those karate pants And they had. And they wore those long shiny pants. Yeah. Remember those karate pants?
Starting point is 03:07:26 And he had the black belt on over the shiny pants. The one that Brian's doing dialogue for. And we say awesome things like this. The one Brian's in his mind. When we want to leave, we go like this. I go, hey guys, let's blow this fucking joint. I say that. And then I go like this.
Starting point is 03:07:41 You mean the whole joint? Yep. And then I go like this. I go, when we really want to get my boys going, I go, let's fucking go. So G-O with a lot of O's. There was a martial arts movie that Frank Shamrock sang. You don't like my fucking movie? Because it's man shit.
Starting point is 03:07:58 Let's go get some fucking burgers after we finish. Do you not hear when other people are talking or what happens? What, dude? I'm fucking, I'm going through my movie. Do it, man. Not even letting me fucking know. No, he was talking. All right.
Starting point is 03:08:06 Eddie was talking and you just start talking over him. There's this low budget martial arts movie called No Rules. Frank Shamrock's in it. Randy Couture's in it. Tom Sizemore's in it when he's like. Tom Sizemore. When he needed cash and he's like in the middle of like rehabs and everything. He's in the movie as the main fighter, Tom Sizemore.
Starting point is 03:08:23 Oh, hell no. Yeah. And he wore a sweater when he fought, like a loose sweater, because he was like in the worst shape of his life. Frank Chabris. That's awesome. You gotta see it, seriously.
Starting point is 03:08:34 No rules. You got to see it. Is it on iTunes or Netflix? Dude, I don't know where it's at, but you have to see this. Why don't we, here it is, look up at the screen. We should do a fight.
Starting point is 03:08:44 Why don't we do a fight? That's what I was going to say. It's amazing. Fuck yes. Pamela Anderson's brother wrote the script. That sounds like a bad idea already. Oh, dude. It looks like serious action.
Starting point is 03:08:56 Hold on. Look at this trailer, dude. Dude, look at the fire behind it. Pamela Anderson. Pamela Anderson was in it? In 2005, I'm in. I was supposed to be in it, but I bailed because I had a seminar. I'm like, dude, I'm proud of you, Eddie.
Starting point is 03:09:07 John Jock was going to be in it. He bailed first. Look at Tom Sizemore fighting with a sweater on. John Jock bailed first. I'm so proud of you, Eddie, for not doing this. Did they agree to have Tom Sizemore in the sweater, or is that like the stipulation? Dude, that was, yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:20 This is incredible. That's the only way they could get him. Oh, this is shot well, too. David Dunn. Yeah, I remember Dave. You always could get them. Oh, this is shot well, too. David Dunn's in it. Yeah, I remember Dave. You always have to have the sea where he's contemplating, where he looks out on the ocean. Always super important to wander and meditate. Dude, this is 2005.
Starting point is 03:09:32 It looks like 87. Uh-oh. And there's an evil fight team, and when they do omoplathas, it's like a satanic thing. They kill you with omoplathas. No joke. Frank Shamrock is part of the evil fight team. Look at the tap out. They kill people She made a cameo she did this in barbwire threw something at him Oh The uppercut that launches the dude upside down and back
Starting point is 03:10:00 back fist. Look at the uppercut. The uppercut that launches the dude upside down and backwards. It's going to happen a million times. This is good. It's real. Jean-Jacques was going to be here. He backed out. We should watch this movie.
Starting point is 03:10:11 So they call me up. They go, Jean-Jacques backed out. And he goes, dude, we need another villain. And I knew Randy Couture was thinking about being in a movie. So I said, maybe I could call Randy. So I called Randy. I go, you want to do a movie? They need a villain last minute.
Starting point is 03:10:26 Randy Couture jumped in and he did it. So now if we do something like this, it almost can't be a standalone thing. We really almost need some of the dialogue. Dude, you gotta see it. Because people need to hear what the fuck we're referring to. Oh, it's a great movie.
Starting point is 03:10:41 Now, is this a movie that they can get online? Gary Busey's in it. Look at this evil fight. Look at Frank this a movie that they can get online? Gary Busey's in it. Look at Frank Shamrock right here. Oh my God, Gary Busey. Look at the Satanic Fight Club. Frank Shamrock. This is the worst movie of all time. Frank Shamrock is Satanic?
Starting point is 03:10:57 Satanic Fight Team. Look at Gary Busey, the best. Dude, I can't believe no one's career boomed up. He broke that dude's back over his shoulders. Dude, look at that. That's MMA Bible. Look, it's Randy. Young Randy Couture.
Starting point is 03:11:14 This is an amazing movie. What is Randy up to these days? Anybody talk to him? He was on our show a little bit ago. He was doing the damn thing. What's he been doing? He's involved with that Fighters Union union thing and then he's uh making movies doing a lot of which fighters union thing is isn't there like three of them they're all duking it out
Starting point is 03:11:33 martial arts associate athletic association and then there's the union he's part of the union what's the better one oh the training montage super important. Show your destiny. Punching ropes and stuff. Yeah, Makiniwara. This is an amazing movie. Yeah. This is like my life in the 80s, man, when I ran with that gang. This is my 90s movie. Yeah, but it was taken off of my dragon gang that I used to roam with.
Starting point is 03:11:58 No rules. No rules. No rules. Guaranteed hit. Seriously. That was right when The Ultimate Fighter was made, that movie. So they're trying to capitalize on that shit. No, they probably didn't know about it yet.
Starting point is 03:12:09 It was probably in the process of that. And then they saw how it really goes down, like, ah, shit. Damn it. Damn it. There's no Satan worship in MMA. Satanic fighting. I remember reading the script going, what? You must be like, dude, throw him a bone.
Starting point is 03:12:26 There must be. Throw him a bone. I bet if we had a show where we just watched bad movies. I got him ready to tour. They should be happy. I bet if we had a show where we just watched bad movies and did a companion for bad movies. Dude. Movie companions?
Starting point is 03:12:37 You would never run out of movies. Movie companions? You would never run out of shitty movies. You know what they told me? And you can go, we're hitting play now. You give everyone a week's notice on Monday. You go, hey, we're watching fucking Naked Gun on Friday. Right.
Starting point is 03:12:49 We're playing it now. And everyone has Naked Gun ready in the store. Everybody queues it up. Yes. And then we all watch it together. Yeah. Like Grease. I was watching Grease the other night with John Travolta.
Starting point is 03:12:59 And I sent a text message to Jamie. I said, we should do a fight companion for the movie Grease. Dude. Because it was high and I was watching him. They're multiplying. And I'm losing control. Oh, the power. You're supplying.
Starting point is 03:13:13 You're supplying. It's electrifying. Oh, my God. What a great. You better shape up. Because I need a man. Because I need a man. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:13:20 The producer of that show said, dude, if you get me fucking Randy couture Make your part so much bigger And I'm like whatever yeah Then I bailed like two weeks later. I gotta find a way to It was that satanic omoplathos that got me it got John jock John Jock said he let somebody read the script and they said, I advise you to abort this. This will ruin your name.
Starting point is 03:13:52 You can't do this. How do you die from an omoplata? Does your arm just rip off and you bleed? You know what? I never got through the whole movie. You're goddamn right you did. You get through like 20 minutes and you're like, cool, I get it. 20 minutes. 20 minutes. 20 minutes.
Starting point is 03:14:07 You've got to get a series of movies like that. You get a bunch of them. This is my favorite commercial. I want to see Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse. The guy in the tiny pony. Yeah, but Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse has almost been done to death. I live tweeted it once. I watched it or Instagrammed it.
Starting point is 03:14:24 I realized how homoerotic it is. It's insanely homoerotic. I went through it once. I watched it or Instagrammed it and I realized how homoerotic it is. It's insanely homoerotic. I went through a whole series of tweets where I highlighted what their quotes were, what the fuck they said. Do you want to see the gayest scene? The gayest scene of all time is the volleyball scene in First Top Gun. Go ahead, pull that up, Jamie. That was a whole thing
Starting point is 03:14:40 that... This is an interesting story. This is a whole thing that Quentin Tarantino put in a movie but apparently it's something that a roger avery thing there's like you could read it up online but it's apparently roger avery's theory that you know roger avery made killing zoe who's a brilliant actor or brilliant uh director writer and uh wound up killing a guy in a drunk driving accident wound up doing jail time and was like tweeting from jail. Damn.
Starting point is 03:15:06 If I remember correctly, in the early days of Twitter. I'm not making that up, right? Isn't that the case? Was tweeting, I think, from the early days of jail. But this Top Gun, according to Tarantino, according to Roger Avery, was his theory. It was like, say, if you had a theory and you were always talking about it, you'd polish it up and made it really funny, and then you told the Schaub, and Schaub goes on, like, Fox News and starts talking about, here's my theory, B,
Starting point is 03:15:30 and, like, he just rattles off your stuff. That's kind of what he did. Allegedly. But what was he saying about it? Well, it's just that Top Gun is gay. Right. Like, Quentin Tarantino goes through this whole thing about all the different various moments where you realize what the hidden subtext is, and it's all homosexual.
Starting point is 03:15:47 Is it really? I don't know about that shit. It's hilarious. We can't play it or they'll kick us off of YouTube, but we'll play it after the podcast is over. Oh, we can't play the volleyball scene. No, we can't play the Quentin Tarantino dissection of Top Gun because if we do, they'll kick us off of YouTube because it's not our content.
Starting point is 03:16:03 Is that the actual movie right there? It is. Everything gets kicked off YouTube, because it's not our content. Is that the actual movie right there? It is. Everything gets kicked off YouTube. People own their content. If you make something, whether it's a movie or a song or anything, and someone puts it on a YouTube thing and then puts it up on YouTube, they shut it down. We got shut down for showing Planet Earth 2, the lizard run from snakes.
Starting point is 03:16:19 Oh, yeah. They shut it down like minutes. Oh, yeah. Well, apparently that's one of the most lucrative video segments is the animal attack segment. Because people love watching those animals attack other animals and attack people. And anytime there's a video like that, if you throw that shit up on Facebook, it's going to get your page shut down. It's happening to me. With the quickness, too.
Starting point is 03:16:39 Quick. And they shut my page down for like three days. Instagram, they're cool, though. They're a little bit cooler, but it's going to eventually bleed over to that too, because doesn't Google own Instagram? Facebook owns Instagram. So it's the same thing. Haters gonna hate. Haters gonna hate. Let me post a goddamn fucking reptile video.
Starting point is 03:16:53 Yeah, but the problem is somebody owns that reptile video on YouTube, and they're making money off the ads, and it's real money. That's fair. Because a lot of those videos, it's 100% fair. Oh no, it's definitely fair. Look, we just want to see it, okay? If I can put it up on my page and show, it's definitely fair. Look, we just want to see it, okay? If I can put it up on my page and show everybody, that's cool too. But I just want to see it.
Starting point is 03:17:09 So if people are showing, whatever is going to make sure these people put up more of those videos is good. I mean, I'm not in the fucking animal attack video business. Well, you know what would be cool? What would be cool is if you repost a video from Planet Video, whatever, Planet Attacks, Animal Attacks, and then they get paid no matter what because you have all these followers. They still get paid, but you get to show the content. Yeah, but maybe they want to generate more subscribers
Starting point is 03:17:31 onto their page, though. But if they're smart. And the argument can be made that if you add it somewhere else, it somehow or another might keep people from subscribing to their page. That's the argument. We did this thing on Fighting the Kid 3D where I put on a deer suit and Brendan putan put on a lion suit and i had to kind of run away from him like on my hands and knees like on my hands and feet it was for the
Starting point is 03:17:51 sketch and he would come over and just jump in the air and land on me i was so fucking worried my back was going to break every single time but i was thinking about how ridiculous that fucking sketch was where we're both dressed as a little bit ridiculous now we're talking about real animal attacks yeah well it was very similar yeah but it was give you a nice opportunity to talk about fighting the kid 3d which is available now yeah no no no i don't even know if it is fox owns that yeah really yeah are they not releasing it i don't think we have to pay for it we're not part of that yeah since we separated oh no divorce you guys made all those sketches and now people can't watch them it's a, but they have to pay. You know what?
Starting point is 03:18:26 It's all over online. And they released them. Don't pay for them. Do some research. I can't believe what you're saying. Some of them are good. I'm proud of them. Most finishes in UFC Pride, WEC Strikeforce history. Shogun right up there with 17. Donald Cerrone, 17. Vandal A, 20. And Cro Cop, number one.
Starting point is 03:18:41 So is Cro Cop on Mount Rushmore? That's a good question. Not in the UFC. He never really performed to the best of his ability in the UFC. He also never looked the same. Who knows what that's all about. But he never looked the same when he came from Strikeforce or excuse me from Pride
Starting point is 03:18:57 over to the UFC. Then when he left the UFC he did work. Became K-1 champion, rising. It's fucking nuts man. Well you know he got back on the Mexican supplements, let's be honest. But he was also on Mexican supplements for a little bit during the UFC, let's be honest. You think so? 100% exemption. Do you think he was on a TRT exemption?
Starting point is 03:19:15 Really? He had TRT? I think so. Well, don't they have to announce that, though? No, hell no, they don't have to announce that. How many people had it? Oh, man, a good amount. And then, because the floodgates opened,
Starting point is 03:19:25 because once people found out other guys were doing it, they had to put a stop to it. Because you had to go through certain people to get it, and then, you know, it was just a bad look. Because, you know, it's an advantage, and everyone wants to do it. Yeah, it was weird for a few years, because it was legal for a few years, and everybody was like, what are they doing?
Starting point is 03:19:42 Yeah, we'd find out by terrorists. We'd do TRT, you know, the floodgates open, but then they're like, no, hell no. Well, not only that, like the way they measure your levels, like you could be doing that stuff every day. I mean, what, what, what, what are they, as long as you're staying under some ridiculously high level and some of them that did get caught, like one of the reasons why I got shut down was when they caught Vitor and he was at like 1,470. At least.
Starting point is 03:20:07 And the doctor was like, well, this isn't even healthy. Like this is like a dangerous level. Same thing with Nate Marquardt. When Nate Marquardt got popped, he was supposed to fight Rick Story. And then he wound up fighting Charlie Brenneman. That was last minute replacement. It was like they did his levels and they went, what the fuck, son? Like there ain't no way you're fighting.
Starting point is 03:20:24 Like this is not healthy. Like, you're on some silverback gorilla levels here. Yikes. Aren't there different, like, there's free testosterone? Yep. So how does that work? Well, you'd have to talk to a real endocrinologist. But, you know, they would explain what's available to you, what your body has to process, what your levels are.
Starting point is 03:20:46 And then they can also find, like, it all depends on when you've eaten, how much sleep you've gotten. If you worked out. Yeah, if you worked out what kind of a meal you've eaten. That's why these blood tests are kind of ridiculous. Like, I talked to a doctor who literally told me if you wanted your growth hormone levels to show up as low all you would have to do is eat a really heavy meal like right before you got your blood tested i go like how far before he's like 45 minutes an hour should do it he goes just eat a bunch of cheeseburgers and shitty food and fries and like milkshakes and then just go in there he goes you'll have such a crash
Starting point is 03:21:20 your insulin levels like your growth hormone levels everything's going to be all fucked and out of whack because you just threw some sludge into your system. So how's the best way to check your true resting testosterone over a week? Yeah, you should test it. You should get a mean. You should test it and you should write down what you're eating, how much you're sleeping. And then also, one of the things that has a big effect on testosterone is how much cholesterol and how much saturated fat and people for the longest time of course thought it was the opposite they thought that that stuff was bad for you but now they
Starting point is 03:21:54 realize that's actually the precursors for testosterone and other hormones saturated fat saturated fat your body needs cholesterol and saturated fat to convert to testosterone so when one of the things that people find and john rollo found to testosterone. So one of the things that people find, and John Rollo found this out. He was one of the first people to tell me about this. When he switched to a keto diet, his testosterone went way up. He was way up. Yeah. It happens with a lot of guys.
Starting point is 03:22:17 Yeah, a lot of guys. A lot of guys. Your insulin levels are very low. Your whole state during the day changes because you don't have the crash thing. Last night I ate in the late afternoon and then I didn't eat until this morning. So I probably went
Starting point is 03:22:34 until I had some butter coffee this morning at like 10 a.m. And I had maybe eaten at like 3 in the afternoon. It's a long fast. But it doesn't bother me at all. Because of the fats? Because my body's just used to burning fats. Oh, I had maybe eaten it like three in the afternoon. It's a long fast. It's a long fast. But it doesn't bother me at all. Because of the fats? Because my body's just used to burning fats.
Starting point is 03:22:49 Oh, I had some exogenous ketones too. I had some of that like an hour later. So my body's on full ketogenic state. So I'm just burning fat all the time. And when you do that, you don't have that weird, crazy, I've got to eat now thing. The crashes, the highs and the lows. If I was just burning carbohydrates and I took that much time off eating, I'd be frantic. Really frantic.
Starting point is 03:23:12 You wouldn't be able to think and stuff. Meanwhile, my energy levels are perfect. I did two sets last night at the store. Perfect. No problems. When you live off fat as opposed to glucose, your appetite is way more suppressed. Way more suppressed. Just for that benefit alone, I like it.
Starting point is 03:23:30 Just that. Because it keeps me from thinking about it so much. Because I fucked up maybe a week or so ago. Not even. Last weekend. Yeah, but a week ago. I took one Sunday and I went off. That's a good time. I had pizza. I had a week ago. I took like one Sunday and I went off.
Starting point is 03:23:45 That's a good time. I had pizza. I had a Cuban sandwich. I ate all this bread and shitty food. And then it took me like a few days for my body to get back into a state of ketosis. But once I did that, man, I was so hungry. Like as soon as my body started flipping over to the calorie, to the carbohydrate side. Because you needed more glucose because your body, you go through glucose very quickly
Starting point is 03:24:08 in your bloodstream. You only have a few hours of it. So your body gets hungry again. Yeah, your body has a few hours of it and then you gotta refuel again. It's really interesting. Dude, I have to go soon. Get the fuck out of here. I have a set tonight. Oh, that's right. Aren't you on tonight too? Yep. Whose show is that?
Starting point is 03:24:23 It's for an animal rescue thing. By the way, the end of this month, March 30, 31, April 1, I'm at the American Comedy Company. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about. This is weird. I'm pitching my date. He's just throwing in some plugs. Yeah, I'll be in San Diego at the end of the month. That's a great club.
Starting point is 03:24:38 I know, I love it. That's a fun place. Do you ever do La Jolla? Do you do the Comedy Store down there? Not anymore, and I miss it. I'm there, Joe. Oh, shit. April 27th.
Starting point is 03:24:44 Big rap breakdown. What a segue. I'm glad, Joe. Oh, shit. April 27th. Big rap breakdown. What a segue. I'm glad you brought that up, sir. It's amazing. Finding a kid, April 8th and 9th, D.C., Philly. Oh, yeah. Chuck and Daryl. Do I have time for one plug, too?
Starting point is 03:24:54 Yes, please. You got it, Eddie. I'm going to be at Evolve slash 10th Planet Singapore for a week. Oh, shit. Super camp, two classes a day, Monday through Friday, And then there's a 1FC show on that Saturday It's May 21st All that week, two classes a day Contact Evolve MMA
Starting point is 03:25:13 So they're bringing you in They're bringing you in to do the The seminar and then you're gonna stay for the fights And watch the fights I'm doing two classes a day, it's like a crazy camp Camp seminar So you're doing that and then you're gonna stay for the fights Yep I'm doing two classes a day. It's like a crazy camp. All week. So you're doing that and then you're going to stay for the fights? Yep. One FC.
Starting point is 03:25:28 Somebody should fucking snatch you up. Would you be willing to do that thing that you used to do for the UFC? Where you used to do the scoring in between rounds? I'd rather just watch the fights, man. I'd rather just watch them. You'd rather watch them right here, right? I'll do it. What do I know? Come on. This is the most fun
Starting point is 03:25:43 place in the house to watch the fights. They should give us a booth, ringside, and let us fight companion. Just give us a booth. It's one of the biggest ratings of all time. You want to see who would be paying attention. If you have those commentary options
Starting point is 03:25:56 like you have it on Fight Pass, you can listen to it in Espanol. You can listen to it. You can listen to the corners. There should be an option for fight companion. If we had a fight companion option, we showed up, and we showed up, and we had like a fucking smoke-proof booth. Smoke-proof booth. Just Jamie up there with like DJ lights and like a DJ table and a smoke-proof room and just filled.
Starting point is 03:26:22 That's good. That'd be sick. I want to do that. People would go crazy. Do you know? That's great. I'd be sick. I want to do that. People go crazy. Do you know? That's great. I mean, the reality is, and we're not trying to brag here, but the reality is way more people listen to this than watch these fights.
Starting point is 03:26:34 That's not bragging. That's a fact. It's just true. God, it's crazy. The last one, I mean, we've gotten, you know, with YouTube and with iTunes, we've got as many as 7 million people downloading and watching these things. Yeah. Fuck.
Starting point is 03:26:48 How much is that? I've got to start doing my hair before I talk. How does that compare to... There's no way this got 7 million people. This maybe got a million. No, come on. You think it got a million? Really?
Starting point is 03:26:56 No. This might have got a million. Fox Sports won. Might have got a million. Saturday Night. Might have got a million. A million's good. A million's not bad.
Starting point is 03:27:03 A million's good. But here's the thing. What we're not taking into consideration is how many people watched in Brazil. It might be way over a million because it's's good? A million's not bad. A million's good. But here's the thing. What we're not taking into consideration is how many people watched in Brazil. It might be way over a million because it's VTOR, right? Oh, shit, that's straight left.
Starting point is 03:27:10 Maybe. It might be way over a million in Brazil. I mean, we're not getting the Globo numbers, right? We're getting the FS1 numbers. Unless we hire people to translate this in Portuguese.
Starting point is 03:27:19 Now we're talking. Can you imagine? Oh, shit. It's pronounced Portuguese. You gotta have a Brazilian Eddie Bravo, Brian and me and Rogan. The problem is
Starting point is 03:27:26 the humor wouldn't translate. Someone would fuck up our jokes. They'd go, these guys suck. I know, these guys are mad. I just want somebody
Starting point is 03:27:32 with a sexy voice to dub me. I know, but who? Are you just talking into the mic with food in your face? I don't know what
Starting point is 03:27:37 you're talking about. How dare you? I'm gonna leave on that note, gentlemen. Okay, let's wrap this bitch up and we're gonna try to do next Saturday night
Starting point is 03:27:43 or Saturday afternoon. Two in the afternoon. Birthday. I'm bringing birthday cake. Oh, shit. Happy birthday, buddy. Cake. To your son.
Starting point is 03:27:50 That's it. We've got a lot of podcasts this week. See ya. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.