The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

Episode Date: March 23, 2025

Joe is joined by Gordon Ryan, Brendan Schaub & Eddie Bravo to watch the fights on March 22, 2025. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:00:39 And we're up, we're up, we're up. It's not a good sign that the fights are still going on for the prelims. That must mean there's a lot of decisions. A lot of prelims. A lot of prelims, but also a lot of decisions. Like, usually they time it out better, because it's like 3.04 now, and this is 1.37 to go in the third round of Jai Herbert. Not ideal.
Starting point is 00:01:02 No, but you know, shit happens. Shit happens. At least they're not doing it at five o'clock in the morning true that was that was fucking ridiculous if I was Leon I'd be pissed what time was it in the UK when it's normal time it's uh you know seven hours ahead yeah so it's nighttime there yeah so it's like 10 p.m. right now it's normal are they six hours ahead or seven hours ahead? I thought it was seven. Something like that. But either way, it's nighttime there. Have you seen any of these guys?
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah, Jai Herbert's the guy that head kicked Ilya Deporia. He dropped him out? He dropped him. No, he dropped him out. Vicious head kick and then Ilya fucking starched him in the next round. He has great striking. Yeah, very, very good kicks. Big prospect.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Real tall, long, lanky dude. But you know, Ilya that guy he connects on anybody They're going night night. Oh Joe you if you knew I know you can't probably talk about it But do you see Ilya's tweet where he's like, I'm gonna have big news. You guys aren't expecting it Yeah, I don't know the news. You have no clue. No, I don't know if I had a guess He's probably fighting a top contender at 55. I don't think but that wouldn't be unexpected You know, I'm saying he's like you won't see this coming So it's not Mark chef because we all assume that much does not find a much just going to 70 186 he's big Connor that's crazy Connor had to have to be in the testing pool for a long time
Starting point is 00:02:20 Isn't he doing bare-knuckle Connor? Well, he's's running bear knuckle. He's like one of the one of the Oh, he's not gonna fight. No, he may might get on for the fucking margin powder How about the fucking dude? He's also running for my fucking fight bad knuckle. He might he might I mean I could see him That would blow bear knuckle right? Oh, yeah. I mean they don't hear him. They'd have to pay Baranaco right oh yeah I mean they'd have to pay him they'd have to pay him. Him vs. Jeremy Stevens? Oh my goodness Jeremy would have to win a couple more times but Jeremy's back in the UFC. No no Jeremy's undefeated in Bellamatta door has been my oh he's changed his nickname but look he's got a new identity when we announce it you
Starting point is 00:02:57 won't believe it get ready. See when you say you won't believe it you gotta come with some shit now. Yeah you gotta but that was a while ago that's March 6th you know what it's today it's 22nd. But that's the UFC being like don't announce yet. Yeah, I don't know, you know I don't know like if I a Perfect matchup is Gagey. I think Charles Olivera. Oh, that's a that's a motherfucker. That's a great matchup Yes, a great and now remember he tweeted that before Gagey's fight. Right. So I don't think it's Gagey. Oh right. Oh man, that's a nasty cut.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Horrible place too. Oh boy, but this is the last round. I think the fight's over. It might be over, yeah. Oh there you go. Yeah, it's over. Um, Dustin Poirier. No, uh, Dustin's fighting Max.
Starting point is 00:03:39 He is? I think so, for the BMF shit. Really? I think. Double check that. That's a great fight too. I'm crazy. The third go around.
Starting point is 00:03:47 At 55 and it's Max proper. I think Max should fight more at 55. I didn't like him going back to 45. I think it's too much of a struggle. He got pretty big when he got up to fight Gagey. He put the weight on right. He looked fantastic. He looked fantastic.
Starting point is 00:04:00 We all remember the knockout of Gagey in the last second there, but he was molly whopping him before that. He was beating his ass. And it all started off with that jump spinning back kick Gagey in the last seconds there, but he was Molly whopping him before that He was beating his ass and it all started off with that jump spinning back kick to the face in the first round He fucked up Gagey's already fixed nose. So that max hallway the true max hallway at 55 First fucking Dustin for Dustin's last fight in New Orleans Sure Take my money
Starting point is 00:04:18 The thing is you got to wonder like how much did that Ilya Toporya knockout take out of max true because that was a beating True Ilya'supori and knockout take out of max true cuz that was a beating true Ilya is just so fucking dangerous He's so technical like his striking though. He's like bobbing in and moving. He's so comfortable with his head movement He sees like a step ahead of everybody. He's good at everything and then people like oh, he's too small for 55 Mike he's actually that that native don't work. He's a big fucking boy. Well, I think the 45 pound cut is look man. They should all stop cutting work. He's a big fucking boy. Well, I think the 45 pound cut is look man They should all stop cutting weight. That's the reality cutting weight is bullshit. It's terrible for you
Starting point is 00:04:51 They need more weight classes and they need to stop cutting weight They need to figure out a way to check Hydration levels and put people in a weight class and say this is still do that in one Who knows what one's backed off MMA like they have a big Muay Thai fight tonight They backed off a really yeah, they're really focused on kickboxing Muay Thai I think in Asia that gets a lot of numbers big time and they put it on fucking shows man Yeah, there's a huge one tonight huge one kickboxing and Muay Thai fights I think the UFC fucked up when they went with slap fighting
Starting point is 00:05:23 I've been telling them forever you guys should get into kickboxing if you only like stand-up fights There's it's not like the old days of kickboxing where they're boring like no karate There's characters man and the knockouts are fucking crazy. Also all your champs are coming from kickboxing Yeah, Alex is he I get some monsters kickboxing with MMA gloves in a cage would be giant And you just have a striking only Segment of the UFC and glories coming back glories doing a heavyweight competition soon glories got some elite fighters, man I watch glory all the time. It's fucking exciting, but nobody's watching it. Nobody knows who these people are You just got to educate the crowd put the same Amount of resources you're in the slap fight right in the kickbox and it's you cook it right and then they're doing it with you
Starting point is 00:06:09 Just soo right right they're doing they put how many millions dollars in the jitsu and they even have more of a budget for it Mm-hmm. Yeah, a lot of it's Eddie, you know, they put a lot of it in the jitsu. Yeah, Mikey Yeah, it is what you fight. No with UFC fight No, I'm saying as far as making it popular like yeah file that shit like that's you were the one, you know I know we're boys, but you were really the one to navigate all that with fight pass. That was huge Yeah, that's a big deal having the UFC get involved heavily and jujitsu is huge. Are you still doing stuff with them? Yeah Yeah, I have a great relationship with them I think they're trying to put together some kind of like a tough show now like an ultimate fighter show for grappling
Starting point is 00:06:49 Which would be which would be cool because then you can like build a star from scratch Yeah, and get to know the guys exactly yeah, you can get people emotionally involved because they because they they exclusively signed Mikey Musha mesh II right yeah, it's hard to get people to watch those reality shows these days I think people kind of burned out on reality shows, you know DC and jailer shooting one right now They're shooting the ultimate fight. They gotta give up on that bro. And listen, what's the 90? I don't know where you watch it. It's on ESPN plus. Is it I haven't watched it in forever No, I watched the finals. I watched the finals to see how good guys are sure and you know and see where they're at You know, I watched Dana White's contender series probably more that's the best thing in combat sports
Starting point is 00:07:29 But as far as like talent like it's the best because they're super hyped. They have insane Motivation they have this unbelievable opportunity if they do that They it's skyrocketing into the end It's not like ultimate fighter like where you can win based off grappling and you know and just hold guys down They become champion UFC contract could Dana white contender series. There's dudes who win and he's like nah not excited enough Yeah, so dudes go for broke. Yeah sugar Sean came from there I mean, there's so many champs a lot of people came from our tomorrow Is it illegal to have a finish bonus in the UFC like you get paid whatever? 80,000 to show
Starting point is 00:08:06 80,000 a win and then another 80,000 if you finish the fight Legal no no no definitely not illegal no they do it now our performance bonus Yeah, a little bit or or or go gangster and go You know you have show money, and then you get extra money like you know double But you have to knock them out or submit a see you otherwise I'm just gonna show money ufl does that and everyone say it ufl does that really yeah, okay? I think that's a good idea. What's ufl now? What do you mean pfl? No ufl? What's ufl? Ufl's were like Tony Ferguson Dillon dances fighting. I thought there was GFL
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, GFL. Oh yeah, yeah, GFL. Sorry. YeahFL. Oh, yeah. Yeah, GFL. Sorry. Yeah, there's PFL. There's GFL. You have something else. But we're talking about the one fight that I'm interested in. Yo, Romero and Musashi. That's a great fight. That's a great fight. Great fight. One fight that GFL is putting together. My, Ooh, I'll watch that. Are they both over 40? They're a hundred years old. Yeah, you're both a hundred. Yoel's 79 years old, dude. I don't care. He looked fucking amazing. Well, he's fighting bare knuckle Yeah, too. Like I saw some promo some giant dude. He's fighting. Do you see him box that slap fight guy, bro? That's slap fight guy when he jumped up there was like, oh I fucked up
Starting point is 00:09:22 Right before he decided to beat his ass he just jumped straight up in the air. It's just some sloppy white guy. You see no off board If the UFC does kickboxing they might as well just come out with a bang and go bare-knuckle kickboxing It's not a bad idea take my money and that'll that'll you know that'll get people to check it out It's better not to Do it separate from UFC events or would you do it like would do it like one or you have like MMA fights and kickboxing? Mix it up I think you could do whatever you wanted, but you could definitely could have a stand-up only show and it would be huge Yeah, where they break them up if they clinch against the cage You know you don't allow them to clinch do it just like kickboxing does separate them
Starting point is 00:10:01 You know like there's no ground fight. I don't backwards the truth. Really you think this feel had kickboxing does separate them, you know, like there's no ground fighting at all backwards. It's the truth. Like really? You think they had kickboxing? No one watched it. We already had it. No, but when the UFC came out, people, all of a sudden people are into martial arts again. And if we go, that's going back, I think I don't necessarily see
Starting point is 00:10:18 what you're saying, but look, the UFC does grappling events, right? The grappling events are pure grappling. Why not do pure striking events too? well MMA is always the best well it was when the UFC blew up it was UFC to correct yeah nobody watched UFC one they didn't know if it was real like there was no b-roll right everyone watched UFC to and did they get blown away and get hooked by it because of the striking or because of the jujitsu well it was because it was ho or because of the jujitsu? well it was because it was hoist. it was the jujitsu. yeah. because people didn't
Starting point is 00:10:48 realize that you could fight on the ground. I thought fighting on the ground was for pussies. but then it went mainstream for a tough one with stand-up with Stefan and Forrest. but listen let's imagine that Ankolyev and Perera fight an only kickboxing fight. are you telling me that's gonna be boring? That would be fucking insane. Kickboxing with little gloves. With MMA gloves. If they're gonna do it, I'd go bare-knuckle if it was up to me. The thing about bare-knuckle though is your face gets obliterated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:16 The slices and the tuts. People want to see the blood. The hands break. People want to see that shit. I'd commentate for Game Bread where it's Bare Knuckle MMA and seeing JDS and Alan Belcher and Roy, they don't punch the same. The little cautious because they don't want to break the hand. It's more realistic.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So it's not the same. It's more realistic. Yeah. Which is... It is. It's just a different product. What happened? This starts in an hour.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But wait a minute. It's not Hilton. Oh, this is the Bare is the bear. No, that's the dirty body. Oh, my goodness. That's our boy. My position. Is this bear knuckle? It's bear knuckle. And this is Hilton is tall with a giant.
Starting point is 00:11:56 This starts in an hour. Yeah. Throw that bitch on. Pick him up. Let's go. And that crazy. Lofsky that dumbing down takes a look and it keeps on ticking better than Andrej Lofsky. Tell me about that. Come on, let's go. Isn't that crazy? Arlovski man. Who takes a lick and keeps on ticking better than Andrei Arlovski?
Starting point is 00:12:08 Tell me about it. That dude is still around. He was the UFC champion in 2005 son. Wow dude. 2005, that's 20 fucking years ago of hardcore combat sports in MMA. That is nuts. Dude, and remember how hard it was for the UFC even to cut him because they kept giving these young lines
Starting point is 00:12:25 He kept beating him. Yeah Do just get out of here? He's like nah, he's such a veteran. He's so savvy. He sees everything coming. Yeah Oh, yeah, man. He's been been there done that forever Yon Bojovich so you were saying that Bojovich got both of his shoulders reconstructed both of them been out two years One shoulders bad enough, but what's impressive about him is he was fighting with bad shoulders when he beat all these boys really yeah I mean how bad were they? They get short as tough. Yeah, did they get worse injury? It's a bad injury because it's such a complicated joint. Yep. I had Full-blown surgery it was uh, how's it now?
Starting point is 00:13:01 It's good now stem cells. How's How's your back, your lower back? My lower back's good, man. I got into that hip and steel stretching. Remember I told you about that? That's huge. I do that every day. That changed everything for you? It makes it so that I don't need surgery,
Starting point is 00:13:15 because I'm supposed to go back for more back surgery. I was supposed to do that two years ago. For another disc? Yeah, another one. But I'm delaying that as long as possible and you know doing these stretches man It takes about an hour and a half to do these stretches every day But it makes it manageable where I could you know tie my shoelaces without pain, you know Yeah, lower back's are a motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah, so whatever we can do to avoid surgery, man
Starting point is 00:13:41 It's amazing. Look at the yawn. First shoulder operated on unfortunately there's too much work to do with one so they can fix both at once another surgery soon. So what year when is this Jamie? Two years ago. Two years ago wow. I'm talking two years. That's crazy and you know no peptides no nothing because everybody is in this you know goofy world where you're not allowed to take stuff like bbc 157. So stupid that's illegal Yeah, yeah, especially after surgery last three months two months started losing my power my strength 40 goes I try to do something with physiotherapy and doctors to try to fix it, but every training was worse Yeah, now remember too. He's also 42 years old. Uh-huh. Yeah
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah, that's old. You know, it's less old for the bigger guys, but it's still old 42 is for I mean I yeah, I'm to two shoulders at 42 is a hard things to come back and Carlos all burgs a motherfucker He's so fast and tall he's so long. It's such good matchmaking cooks Carlos old Berg Even though they think you know prospect I think he's good matchmaking because Carlos Olberg even though they think you know prospect I think he's 34 35 but it's a he hasn't really beat anybody of note like and then there's also there but he hasn't really beat any of the top guys to get to this so him versus yawns fun and there's also his first fight like his first fight with Kennedy Kennedy and Zicheku yeah who beat him down like he was beating Kennedy up and then he gassed out and he fucked
Starting point is 00:15:04 him up yeah like that's a that's a big fight because he kind of folded down the stretch Over you know over amped in the beginning of the fight burned off too much fuel just experience experience It's like Sean Brady in the main event like when they gave him balala He just wasn't ready right and then loses that and then goes on a tear. Yeah, and like now he's ready now He's ready. Yeah, well sometimes it takes that had mental coaching Yeah, too. Yeah, I think it's how are your shoulders good. Yeah, and yours good shoulders good shoulders. I tore my bicep Like a month ago pray But I'm on how bad is it it looks weird you can see it. Did you get it fixed or no?
Starting point is 00:15:41 No, man, you don't have to get it fixed is Is it a small tear? Yeah, it's a small tear. Oh, okay. I just been injecting fucking peptide. BPC. Name something. Just fucking. Oh, yeah. Dude, fucking. Bro, BPC 157 with the TB 500 is amazing.
Starting point is 00:15:55 The best. Amazing. I started taking blue scorpion venom shit. What? Yeah, some scorpion venom. Some venom, I don't know, name something. Weak. Anything someone offers, man, me I'll try it out
Starting point is 00:16:06 The brand name is venom or actually blue venom they take venom and and then from peptides like what from a fucking scorpion What does that do for you? Apparently it helps with healing they say bee stings cures arthritis Sure, but people get bee stings like hey cures arthritis sure but people get bee stings like you know they have like joint zone arthritis they get stung all over the fucking hands and it helps them blue scorpion venom what's the hell dude
Starting point is 00:16:31 yeah they milk scorpions dog reminds me of a shark cartilage dude I couldn't lift three weeks ago I fucking who knows scorpion did it for you I don't know that's the thing I take so much shit I don't know something's working something So we're good, dude. I got back on the bench last week and was no no problems What is the scorpion stuff supposed to do it helped with healing like it like there's all sorts of fucking history Really? Yeah, dude blue. Do you inject it or you take it? No, it's a serum
Starting point is 00:17:00 Okay, so you put it on the muscle you put on your tongue No, you put it on your tongue every morning every night, and I'm like how much say take I'll take double is it Is there a side effect to it? Yeah, be an awesome Feeling healthy does it make you feel great? Oh, yeah, I feel great Wow, but you're doing a lot of stuff I think I don't know. I don't know and like I stumbled upon was it methanol blue. Yeah, do you take methanol? Yeah, right legit. Yeah, he's same stuff. That's not how you say it. What is the actual methylene methylene methylene methylene? Dude, it's on me all the time. Yeah, do you want some? Yeah, I take it. It's it's like a what do we say a nootropics? It's like a, what do we say, a nootropic? Like energy?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Well, it's basically an MAO inhibitor and it also has something that does something for your mitochondria. I'm not the guy to describe it, but Gary Brekka told me to take it and quite a few other people told me to take it. Yeah. I just stumbled, because I take creatine for neurological reasons and for muscle recovery. And then I'm taking so many noot tropics. I feel like I leveled out and then someone recommend this, this is Methylenol blue. Methylene. Methylene blue. Yeah. And that
Starting point is 00:18:11 took you to another level. Bro. Yeah. I mean, three, four times a day. Let's go. Three or four times a day. Yeah. I think you're supposed to do it one a day, bro. What are we doing? I got too much shit to get done, Doug. Yeah, this one's great. From Diesel Sups. You're like a test rat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When they go, does it work? I think so. Probably. Yeah. Some of them's working. One of them's gonna work. The full combo's working. One of them's gonna work. Now with the UFC being involved in grappling, they're not thinking about drug testing anybody, are they? I don't think so. As far as I know no Because none of the organizations test right it's like unless you're gonna sign
Starting point is 00:18:50 Which is starting to happen now because there's a little bit more money IBJ Jeff tests. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, okay. That's it You know they're starting to sign people exclusive now because there's a little bit more money Yeah, but unless you're gonna test the cross every organization is test, and it doesn't make sense because then you have the guys who are tested in the UFC who are fighting on flow or at one or other events who are fighting guys who are juiced anyway. So the whole reason to have testing is to have guys who are not on steroids compete against one another. Right, but if they came up with an organization that came up with the most money and said, but here's the rules, We're gonna go usada
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah, that would work But the problem is is that you need a business model where you can make that amount of money back right like Just just to pay for testing like most of the guys so that are competing on like the undercard or like not even the main Event guys you would actually be losing money testing them regularly Also falls down the sport, But also when the UFC signs, say Mikey Muschameshi, is it exclusive? Can he not compete anywhere else? So usually when they do exclusive, I don't know what his contract is obviously, but usually it's exclusive but they have cutouts for things like ADCC or like big world championships. Otherwise it's hard to sign the guys completely exclusive.
Starting point is 00:20:03 That's all he's going to say. you'd have to pay my salary like for example if if UFC signed Mikey Exclusive and then he wanted to do a DCC But it's on flow like a lot of times the guys have cutouts for that like big bro. She means it's cool Because it helps everybody. Yeah, it's cool. Just build a brand You don't be stuck there if you're not in enough competition Like a guy for a guy exclusive to flow or to UFC wouldn't be able to compete for like flow grappling or one normally. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah. So is one still doing a lot of grappling? I know they got the Rotolo's and Mikey's gone. I think Cade's doing MMA now. Yeah, he's two and oh, he looks like a demon out there. Oh, okay. He looks like a savage. So he's fucking people up striking yeah right
Starting point is 00:20:46 right yeah it's like having a guy like that that's the that elite with grappling and also young enough to learn striking and get rid and just wild dude they get all aggressive dude great work ethic they gave him like a tough matchup to a second fight in one championship like a tough fucking wrestler he fucking annihilated this dude is Gary T Tonan still in the One? Uh, yeah. Yeah, he was, uh, his contract ended, he was doing some negotiations, but, um, as far as I know, I-I think he's going back to One, but I'm not 100-100% sure. Be great to see him in the One.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Jamie, can you bring up the One Championship? I wanna see him fight soon. One Championship has a big, uh, Muay Thai fight, like, huge Muay Thai fight, like one of the biggest ever. Uh, so... I sent my wait to it there everybody watching home rotten first fight is right about to start and we are Mark Goddard is waiting to kick it off. He's moving to the center of the octagon now and It goes and the time is 457 456 4 55 4 54 4 53 we're off How do you say that dude's name shari shari shari shari shari shari
Starting point is 00:21:57 This is in London, yes, sir Tell me a little bit about these guys. I don't know much. I didn't study this. He's 12 and 3. Brendan? I wish I wish. You don't know? Oh my god. No I know some guys. No I got some things. Who is he fighting? 8 first round finishes. That's really good. Man Brendan got stomped. Yeah he gets crispy off this but what I was gonna say is I wish we were seeing John Jones' Aspinal in London. Yeah that's what I was gonna say is I wish we were seeing John Jones Aspinall in London Yeah, that's what they should be saying But I think John's gonna hold out as long as he can to make the most money and then which you can't be mad at But also, you know Tom Aspinall, I think soon he'll be the interim champ for the longest ever over 500 days. That's not good
Starting point is 00:22:39 No, that's kind of crazy 500 days. It's fine. It is as well It's kind of crazy and John said he wants six months to train. That's just negotiation tactics. Like dude, he's been on your radar for three years. And you took two years to get ready for heavyweight. What are we doing? Yeah, but I mean, John is so meticulous in his preparation. Like you've worked with John.
Starting point is 00:22:58 You trained with him when he was getting ready for Stipe. Yeah, we did the first camp. I was with them for like a couple weeks. And then Stipe got hurt. Yeah, we did the first camp I was with them for like a couple weeks and then the then Stipe got hurt and then the second camp oh oh here we go someone got hurt he dropped them I didn't see with what but he definitely dropped them so but yeah the second camp I was with him for like a full like six or seven weeks so that was uh and do you think Tom Aspinall's like John's gonna get him down if you got him down John as far as
Starting point is 00:23:29 being an Aspinall's guard you think it'd be an issue for John at all? No I think that I think Tom would probably be trying to stand up I don't and Tom also has pretty good like fast takedowns so they could both take one another down yeah but I don't think that Tom is gonna be able to like really do anything pretty good like fast takedowns so they can both take one another down. Yeah. But I don't think that Tom is going to be able to like really do anything besides trying to get up on John. Yeah. Trying to get that mounted guillotine. He's been doing Jitsu since he was a kid.
Starting point is 00:23:56 You know, it's rare you have a big guy with good hips. Dog fight. Boom. He's so fast too. Aspenol, like as a heavyweight, there's no one like him. The only knock-on we really really haven't seen just his defense Yeah, his head is Fight I did see him lose. He got heel hooked and it was a pretty shitty heel lock that he tapped to so
Starting point is 00:24:14 Aspinal yeah, when was that? Yeah, you got a heel hook yeah, yeah interesting He's undefeated there was a and it was a it means a long time ago. He's obviously gotten much better But it was a pretty shitty heel look no kidding was it an amateur fighter was it a pro fight the pro fight I believe here's something to think about think of for whatever reason John decides he doesn't want to fight Aspen Oh, what the fuck do you do with Aspen? All right? There's no you the heavyweight division's never been worse It's never been worse. It's awful like there's serol gone triangle right here Oh, pull that head down he sticks to the head just concentrates on the head
Starting point is 00:24:53 You might be able to get it if he would ask me a few weeks ago I wouldn't say have Alex move up, but Alex just lost yeah, that was the bummer I heard that Alex fought with a broken here. It is here's a heel hook It's actually a heeled knee bar. So here it is. Who's this guy? So you see he just scoops the leg from half guard. Tom, Tom was whooping his ass.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And Tom turns away instead of trying to face him. So it exposes the heel and it turns into a heeled knee bar. Oh weird. That's a heel hook but it's a knee bar but with the heel hook gripping so he can't turn back into the lock that dude's in some pub right now going I beat that guy. I beat the fucking champ. I beat that fucking champ. This guy keeps trying He's got a creating angle. Oh, he's got both arms shoulders in yeah It's gonna go with a dead orchard right any Doesn't work
Starting point is 00:25:47 Is never working MMA's anybody pulled it off and yeah Elvis Sinisek. Oh, that's he was the first one He was the first one. That's why Elvis That's when no one really thought it was like no one really even noticed it because you're taught You only triangle your legs when there's one arm in one arm out now when there's two's two arms in. But his legs are so long, he arm barred Jeremy Horn. And then when you look at it, you're like, yo, he has a he's triangling his legs and he has both arms in. Well, that's kind of a freak thing. And we just thought it was a freak thing.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And then Nathan Orchard and Brian Debs, two of my guys, they just started doing it all the time. They go, do we do this all the time? I go, really? You're doing triangle? You gotta have long legs. You gotta have long legs. If you have short legs, you gotta do a Mexican dead orchard.
Starting point is 00:26:32 That's what I do. You gotta do a lot of extra labor. There's a lot of extra stuff you gotta do to pull it off. What's the Mexican dead orchard? How does it work? You gotta do a lot of stuff. You gotta go invisible collar to muddy waters and then Mexican dead. There's a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Because if you have long hair or long, long, dead There's a lot of stuff because if you have long hair or long long If you're heavy metal, dude, if you have long legs you can you're on the bottom Depending on how you match up with the guy He can get dead orchard He could you could triangle your legs with his arms in a perfect defensive position and they get that a lot of times people get Surprised like what the fuck happened? I want how did he triangle his legs that they don't understand. But if you have short legs and the guys like this or just regular legs,
Starting point is 00:27:09 there's no way you're going to be able to try and go to your legs with both arms. You need one arm in one arm out. So with both arms in the only way a Mexican or a Chinese guy could do a dead orchard is you got to have this arm down and this arm like this. Like this. Now I could, now I could triangle my legs. You gotta do a lot of work. You gotta get the hand on the mat and then you gotta get his elbow in.
Starting point is 00:27:30 There's a lot of stuff that's super complicated. Dead Orchards are not the greatest thing for, and you gotta be super flexible. Super flexible and you gotta put a lot of time into it. But if you have long legs, you should be doing Dead Orchards. It's by far the number one armbar in the garden. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And there's not even a close second. There's a minute. I got one of my black belts has 84 dead orchards and his students, a purple white has 34 dead orchards in competition. Who has that many orchards? Chris Vickers, 10th planet, Walnut Creek, and dead or There's they happen all the goddamn time Ben Eddie got Wilson Hays in in a combat jujitsu match. He got him in a dead orchard Wow, Wilson Hays is high level black but he just fought Mighty Mouse for the title a month before
Starting point is 00:28:17 That's high level shit. Yeah, you know, but you know but for girls Girls proportionally have longer legs than guys and more narrow shoulders So if you're a girl out there and you're fighting MMA and you don't have a dead orchard in your game You're missing out You know girls can do dead orchards at a higher level or a higher rate than guys Who's sure who's just because of the body type who you think has the best guard in MMA? Is it Olivera or Paul Craig? the best guard in MMA is it Olivera or Paul Craig? Paul Craig's got a fucking pretty nasty guard. Paul Craig's so dangerous Bo Nicodemus take him down. Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:51 right. There's so few fighters with dangerous guards in MMA. Fabricio was one. Fabricio Verdun was the overlooked goat heavyweight. I would say Paul Craig. Yeah On Goliath and Jamal Hill. He's got two world champions arm barred both of them Triangled him arm barred him. That's very impressive. We got got a little malls arm Remember drum Jamal's arms flopping all over the place. He's beating on him as far as jitsu eyes You got gutter Nelson on the card tonight and then Sean Brady's no punk either. Sean. He's a black belt
Starting point is 00:29:24 He's wicked. Philadelphia Gorilla. And I'm sure Gorvon would like to point out that he beat Craig Jones in competition. He did beat Craig Jones in the grappling match. That was one of them deals where you couldn't do heel hooks though, right? I think, I believe leg locks were illegal. That's a little sus. But, I mean, still.
Starting point is 00:29:43 He's an MMA guy who fights at 170. Well, he's a fucking beast. No, yeah. No's an MMA guy who fights at 170. Well. He's a fucking beast No, yeah, no, he's got like a turtle shell for a back No, he's a great he's a great grappler, which is why I'm excited to watch this. Yeah, his back is like triple thick He's got like you John-Marshal Brady. Yeah, his back is like extra muscles You see what he's do and Leon Edwards in the weigh-ins. He's like I don't realize how small he is I'm definitely have a strength advantage. You're like answer that but yeah, you're like, oh buddy. Oh boy. You got to educate yourself Well, Leon was saying at the way and she's too small. I'm gonna take him out like he might be shorter than you
Starting point is 00:30:14 But he's a fucking chimp. Yeah, you get to hold you you got real problems. Know what he did to Calvin Yeah, there's manhandled Kelvin. You'll hell of a wrestler. Yeah hell yeah hell of a wrestler No, anyone who fights John Brady's like he's the strongest guy we were all of them say it. Yeah, Joe Piper says yeah Yeah, and Joe Piper is fucking huge huge. That's a guy. We're collar hands has a guy We're like how fuck do you make 85 Wow? How do you make 85 Gordon in your opinion? What's the best leg lock for MMA? best leg lock position You're training someone he wants to learn leg locks. What's the best leg lock for MMA best leg lock position? You're training someone he wants to learn leg locks. What do you think? Well for you guys to be called the honey hole, but for us cross-ashigurami or inside Tsungaku. Yeah, and that's a cuckoo
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah, that's the best one you think One of them and then what do you think about putting it on the outside and go on z lock? That's great, too So it seems like anything on the outside it turns the guy and he really can't hit you because really it's about being Safe from strike. Yes, and 50-50. I think everyone agrees if you see 50-50 in MMA and it works But you can still reach the guy's face, but you can't really hit him that hard 50-50 50-50 you can get hit Outside Ashigarami or you guys call that's the worst one you can get hit outside Ashi-Garami or you guys call it double outside. That's the worst one.
Starting point is 00:31:25 You can get hit. Yeah, that's the worst one. But any like inside Tsingaku or if you pass leg across to we call it inside Ashi-Garami where you have the That's how I finished Nicky Rod where you have the legs triangle to inside but the legs pass to the outside So you have an outside heel hook? That's great. But because everyone's breaking mechanics are not up to par on outside heel looks It's harder to get catastrophic breaks on outside heel looks so for MMA if you have good breaking mechanics like Paul Horace finished a lot of Outside heel looks but his breaking mechanics were pretty good. Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:58 The legs inside with the foot outside is best Otherwise just keep the foot on the other side and go for the inverted. So if this leg was reaping, this foot would be on the outside, right? Like this? Yeah, so you have an outside heel. We call that the Indian. Yeah, that's actually Gary heel looking. On the inside. Yeah, but so yeah, so it's hard for the guy to, the guy can't hit you from here. He can't
Starting point is 00:32:21 really throw any punches to your face. Basically anything that, anytime you reap like which which Which is that left leg going on the inside makes it hard for the guy to hit so most people think oh I'll leg locks don't work in MMA. You're gonna get smashed. That's not true. Some leg locks will save your ass That was a fight in the UFC some Brazilian guy forget. It was in the ultimate fighter He was on his back getting walloped and the guy was like had a horse stance on top of him against the cage and was throwing down and that Brazilian just jumped jumped on a on a kneebar a kneebar attempt and that saved him because now you can't now he's punching his ass and then from the kneebar he got knocked down on his
Starting point is 00:33:01 back on his butt and then he turned around jumped on his back and choked him out. Yeah I don't think you've seen a lot of heel hooks because a lot of guys just aren't very knocked down on his back or on his butt and then he turned around jumped on his back and choked him out. Yeah, I don't think you've seen a lot of heel hooks because a lot of guys just aren't very efficient at it. They're like, they're not focusing on it. Ryan Hall was one of the first to come in and really do some damage with leg locks. He got, he got BJ Penn pretty quick. The number one determining factor of with, with leg locking is in so far as getting hit
Starting point is 00:33:22 is in order for the person to actually hit you, they have to come up on top of you and put weight onto you So the number one determining factor is can I keep this guy's head? If I can get if you're attacking and you're trying to punch the guy if you can get your head over his head You can hit with power. Yeah, so any leg locking position Which doesn't allow your opponent to get head overhead is what's gonna keep you safe. So basically double outside. Ah, she what do you guys call double outside? I just outside ah, she that's the worst one That's what that because the guy can come forward into you and get head overhead Yeah, hit you you you either get that heel hook quick or you're gonna take some damage
Starting point is 00:33:56 But anything where you're reaping which doesn't allow him to come forward into you It's a break his own leg if he stacks you yeah And he can't get head overhead is what you should be looking for But but if the guy can get head overhead, then he can hit you easy Yeah, you going over leg locks with John Jones is he is he pretty good at him now? Yeah, we he kind of just bounces around from thing to thing like he'll they go I want to go over some leg locks and like you'll teach him a move They're like so Darcy's like a question on Darcy and it's like it's like just ADHD just bad But that's how he learned like he just bounces from move to move Yeah, yeah the first time I met him
Starting point is 00:34:28 It was his first fight when he fought Stefan Bonner And we were at it was in Boston and we were at a boxing gym And I was just hanging out with you because you were taking a private with Who was the guy from Amsterdam that you were taking privates? Rob, it was shoot it was either Shooky or Rob came in. It was one of them We were in some random boxing gym in Boston and I was just sitting at on on the ring It must have been Rob if we're in Boston waiting waiting for you to be done and then no one knew John Jones it was his first fight he's sitting there and He comes up to me and he and he asked for advice. He goes, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:35:01 You know, you got any advice for me? And I like, I didn't know. And he was fighting Stefan Bonner and I thought, Oh, they're feeding Stefan Bonner some new guy. Like I fell back. So what I told him is, is there's two kinds of wrestlers that come into MMA wrestlers that love jujitsu and wrestlers that want to beat jujitsu. I go, don't be one of those wrestlers that wants to beat jujitsu. Fall in love with it. Fall in love with submissions because the guys that want to beat it, they never last. They're eventually going to get taken out. Also wrestlers have such an advantage of being able to manipulate bodies. The scariest jujitsu guys for the most part are guys that wrestle their whole life and then they fall in love with jujitsu and they love pulling guard and all that
Starting point is 00:35:46 Oh scary thing about the guys John Jones submitted. Oh, yeah, over leotard. Oh, yeah Savage be or how did that Stefan Bonner fight? It wasn't he like to beat it out of him He's like throwing spinning elbow beat the shit. Yeah, you remember when we talked him We talked him into going to a big camp. Do you remember that conversation? We're We're at the roof of the hotel We're hanging out and he was saying what do you think I should do? I said you're too good. You need to be at a big camp. You need to be around killers
Starting point is 00:36:16 You can't you're so good. You're gonna get by a long way on your own I go but you need like high-level coaching like you're you're a world champion Did you recommend Jackson's to him? I did not he found Jackson's. Yeah. Well Jackson's was huge at the time Yeah, you know so many SP. It's such a great gym. I mean you can't go wrong with those guys and Greg It's just such a great mind for Legit kickboxer in his day. Winkle John was a legit kickboxer. He fought John E. Viterio.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Oh yeah. Winkle John's a man. He was legit, man. Winkle John's a legit striker. And then you got all those other people over there too. It's like such a killer lineup. I was there during John's heyday, man. Yeah you were.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Savage. Yeah. I think his heyday's still going on, man. Especially at heavyweight. We just don't know. He's not active enough. Yeah. It's really, there's still going on man. You especially at heavyweight. We just don't know he's not active enough Yeah, it's it's really there's one fight man. There's one fight and then after that after that They had a fucking they got a scour even if he here's the thing even if John Molly wafts Tom Which I think that John would be an underdog in the fight But let's say John beats time that crazy and then retires. It's like all right Tom. I still gonna dominate right?
Starting point is 00:37:24 He's gonna beat him You get Francis to come back Saudis come on come on come on come on Saudis come along with that France is gonna find wilder that big bag. Yeah, let's go So I do it good John Jones story that nobody knows because I was we were I was cornering him for that fight, his last fight against Stipe. And we found out that Trump was going to be there. And for probably a solid 15 to 20 minutes, we only, while he was warming up, like 15
Starting point is 00:37:57 to 20 minutes, he's getting ready to go out to fight for the belt. Probably 20 minutes of that warm up was him just practicing the mechanics on how to do the Trump dance right. We like looked it up, we like YouTubeed it and he was like practicing the Trump dance in the locker room getting ready to do it. How confident are you of victory when you're already practicing your victory dance? Pretty confident. And the best is we were all for it. We were like, no, like the hands gotta be a little bit higher. We were like coaching him through it as he was doing it.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Oh I was laughing so hard. How did that fight end? I forget. Spinning back kick to the body. Yeah. I never told you this but I was actually there. Oh you were there? I flew in with the guys from CPI.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Why didn't you tell me we were there? Because you're so busy, you know what I mean? And then I was with a i was a very about how is it like uh... big groups and what am i going to do break i got my you know what dot yet yet so much it going on and uh...
Starting point is 00:38:53 so uh... and clay from cp i calls me up because hey you want to go you you you want to pick you up in my private jet and go to uh... see tyson fight in dallas and then we fly and go see John Jones know that sounds terrible no I hate fun I need better friends. I actually said no. Did you really? My kid had baseball. My kid had baseball all weekend. So I said damn because he asked me this was we were gonna leave on Thursday or Friday morning or Thursday and
Starting point is 00:39:27 It was like Tuesday and I'm like yo What no one's ever asked I've never had that offer ever Let me go pick you up and the private pick me up in Van Nuys Airport and then we go to Dallas and then we go to The New York and then and I said dude, I can't I can't and then I told my wife and my wife goes are you fucking retarded? Good wife call his ass back. You fucking go The kids are called back. I said my wife's making me go they play a lot of games Yeah, especially his son travel ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And you know to be honest with you dude
Starting point is 00:40:01 I've been to a million UFC's like I'd rather watch it at home Or with with my buddies because we have UFC parties at the gym and you know That's funner to me than to see live to tell you that this is my favorite way But but but but when we were there dude, I was just watching the whole Trump thing go on you see RFK Tulsi gabber with either to And I was just sitting there going fuck you're there I I'm like dude. There's a good time for the deep state to fucking send the missile There was like do it was like 47 checkpoints. It was like, it was like secret. And then I see Trump come up, I saw the whole fucking thing. Trump walking straight to you and gave you a big fucking hug and he's whispering sweet nothings in your ear.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I'm like, holy, they're like, there's shit right here? Like I was like, what the fuck? He goes right to you, man. Look at that. He didn't want to talk to John Attic, he was going right to you. He knew you were ready for the fucking handshake poll. So yeah, like no Dude look at that and what did he say you DC the left hand He's basically said I won him the election Damn how crazy is this right Right? Very interesting times. And then John Jones wins and then does the dance?
Starting point is 00:41:28 That was crazy. Dude that day was insane. That day was insane. For the world. That day world history shit. Yeah. They could put that whole event in some book. All the other athletes started doing the Trump dance after that.
Starting point is 00:41:44 A lot of football players were already doing it. A lot of football players. Was put that whole event in some book well, I'm like started doing the trump dance after that That's amazing that's the coolest shit that's amazing John Jones sad the goat don't go. Yeah, no the goat now no doubt No, that's no, it's silly when people argue that he beats ass Yeah, everybody has to shut the fuck up for they need to shut the fuck up even if you're gonna lose the ass Yeah, look his resume to light heavyweight. You gotta realize he went through that whole fucking Span of fighting the best of the best that light heavyweights ever had to offer. Look at the fucked up. Look at the line It's like Tom Aspinall is a slight favorite That's yeah as he should he should be
Starting point is 00:42:27 Looking mirab over Sean. Yeah, whoo 350 to win Tom hasn't been out of the first round. They do is this real are they doing mirab and Sean again? These are just a website taken actually. Yeah, they're taking bets already. They are huh? When is that happening? I don't know but that is why right? Yeah, probably that is on topia That's happening. No is on beyond to 70 Is he? Interesting. Oh Shane He's got to do a drunk Trump, you know
Starting point is 00:42:57 Trump has never been drunk ever in his life, but him doing it. Can you imagine if Trump was? Was drunk on Twitter? Send Trump doesn't drink all right who's the only Davies? Oh, she's amazing top top female grab just don't recognize. We're all dolled up. Yeah, she's amazing Do you know her Mackenzie Dern about? The first time I saw her she was an EDI She was a purple belt and she went against her first round match was against Talita Alan Carr who was a black belt world champion I gave Talita like oh, you're gonna get a purple, but you get the low seat
Starting point is 00:43:30 So it was like an easier and I'm sitting there and I'm roughing and I'm like Oh Talita is gonna kill this little Irish girl and dude The own was all over her took her back and almost finished her I'm like, oh my god And the only reason I put her in there was cuz Keith percorian He he sent me a message goes yo, there's this there's this chick Fiona. Davis. You got to throw her in I go Okay, whatever I'll take that advice, but Talita ended up winning She ended up getting her back at the end and winning But it was scary for a second and that was as a purple belt as a purple belt
Starting point is 00:44:01 She almost beat a world champion this dude looks like he's had a a hard life He's tatted up like machine gun. Yeah, I Don't know these guys So we'll see what happens at that one there's a lot of good fights coming up I'm wondering what Miami do with Toporia, but I like to put what you're saying to pray for Salvera Oh Vera your first introduction at 55 You know all that so tall and dangerous so dangerous everywhere dangerous striking huge reach advantage Yeah, but but if you're top here, you're not gonna go up to 55 without some sort of guarantee because remember He's giving up the belt so he's not getting pay-per-view points. It's his idea
Starting point is 00:44:40 Well, cuz the weight cuts too tough. Is that what it is? Yeah, really 45 too tough for him But he's been doing it and winning. He's just sick of it. Yeah, I would imagine Last cut was really tough and his team was like, all right no more Wow You're not gonna give up the pay-per-view points and just dip out and then just go into the queue at 55 What was he weighing when he was fighting 45? What was he walking around saying like 180 between? Yeah, big like that's the thing was like oh, he's too small 55. He's fucking big Yeah, but those guys are real big like Islam's huge. I stand next to how about Gleason to bow? Oh my god, I walked around at 250. I was back in the day
Starting point is 00:45:22 Has the record for weight cut. Anthony Johnson. Rob? Oh yeah. Anthony Johnson. I don't know how Alex ever made 85. Who? Right. Alex Pereira. Maybe we fight at 225. How about DDP? He's fucking huge. Huge. Yeah he's huge. He's so big. I haven't seen him in person. I said that to Alex when I was like a jack 230 and he like dwarfed me I'm like how does this guy cut to 80? He's bigger in every matchup he was bigger. He's longer, he was thicker Like it was just they say he fought with a broken hand and norovirus against Onkaliyev He fought with a broken toe before when he beat Yuri Prohaska he had a fucked up knee like whenever when he went and he tumbled at the end of the fight
Starting point is 00:46:06 Yeah, that's because his knee doesn't wouldn't support him He was basically fighting on one leg in the first fight then he gets surgery I guess is probably meniscus because he came back pretty quick walk around weight 231 that's Crazy and he looks 231 we stand next to him. He looks like a heavyweight. He go up to a five Oh easy easily easy 205 as a strength for people. Yeah. Yeah get you some He's a scary you a problem cuz he confused everybody everybody's like, oh this guy's all awkward and shit He's gonna get pissed up like, you know, we watched so many fights. I'd say I'm like, oh, he's gonna get exposed eventually I think I'm just seeing me like what the fuck when we saw him early in
Starting point is 00:46:45 His career. He did not have a nose his nose was cardio is bad Yeah His mouth was wide open all the time and then he got that nose fixed and then all man I remember when I got mine fixed I was like why didn't I do this a long time ago? You're like 10% more cardio instantly. Yeah, his coach came out was like he was only breathing at 6% Capacity and I was like this some bullshit out of his nose Maybe he's no I believe that and then he got it fixed and motherfuckers unstoppable Rockhold Just did something online where they did a scan
Starting point is 00:47:13 It's all gone. There's no whole nose is just completely clogged Yeah, cuz it's like your ears you get cauliflower ear that shit the same thing happens inside your nose Yeah It's the blood pools up and it calcifies and you just get rocks inside your nose your nose is just a big fucking closed Like a tunnel that caved in on miners. I had mine fixed when I had my tonsillectomy Yeah, they had like the stents up there for like a week I feel like you got a good nose for fighting you like no homo You got like a button nose like cute button nose
Starting point is 00:47:51 Good nose so does that yeah nose for fighting it like a no homo you got like a button nose like cute button nose. I appreciate that. Right? Doesn't he have a good nose? So does Eddie. Yeah. Has anybody thrown a lot of money at you to try to get you to do MMA? Yeah I was offered seven figures. Really? To do like bare knuckle MMA. Oh bare knuckle was it Masvidal's thing? I believe so. It wasn't miles we all have reached out it was somebody else Dean probably I think it was maybe through Philly fresh hmm reached out and it was somewhere around seven figures Wow did yeah I'd watch that but it was like I was getting ready for ADCC at the time I'm just like no yeah you were gonna do combat you get to two it was gonna be him against my pretty silver doom combat you did that wasitsu. That was happening dog. That was happening. Take my money. Fuck yes. I tore my LCL against you. And then Fabricio got hurt too. So they both dropped out but it was gonna happen. Fabricio's in GFL right? Fabricio's in GFL. GFL's got everybody their Chris Wyman's like I'm retired and the GFL called him
Starting point is 00:48:46 I was like I'm unretired back in like they're fighting its end of May But the arena by the USC down there its end of May in LA. What kind of testing got multiple choice. Don't be hated What's this testing you speak of but do they get old guys don't don't be cool You speak of but do they get old guys don't don't be cool Ww yeah, let's go back to the old day. We got Dylan Danna's Tony Ferguson like I like it done. That's good That's a good fight. That's I saw that poster That's gotta be fake because there's zero chance that deal. It was that lightweight here. It is no chance But remember the ways are different their weight cuts different What is 10 pounds so they can agree to fight at a weight that they're both comfortable at.
Starting point is 00:49:28 So a legendary lightweight matchup. Yeah, but lightweight's different for them. That could be 65. But there's no way he'd make 65. He could like barely make 70 when he was like 170, when he was in shape for ADCC. What is it? Their weight classes are different. We pulled it up the other day. Like middleweight is 200 pounds.
Starting point is 00:49:43 So maybe... Oh, look, I posted right there, that's my good comment. Dylan making light weight. Well let's see, pull up GFL weight classes Jamie. I think they are, they're definitely different. They're different so if Tony goes hey man I feel good at whatever 168, 170 and Dylan agrees like yeah I'll fight you at 170. Well Dylan wasn't even making 170 when he fought in Bellator.
Starting point is 00:50:04 50-50 revenue share. He would fight you at 170. Well, Dylan wasn't even making 170 when he fought in Bellator. 50-50 revenue share He would fight a catchweight Athletes can earn a fair share of the revenue generated from events ensuring their success is directly linked to the league's success. Dang How do they determine that? 50-50 for the game. Once they get over, you know, once they get in the positive But then also like let's- How do they know who's moving the needle? They all get it. They all get it. Yeah, they all get it Okay, they split amongst the fighters. Can you just Google GFL's weight classes and see if a website explains it? On their website. I know but I don't think they have it on their website. So they split the profit? That's different. If they split the profit What if they don't make any profit? Then nobody gets it Okay
Starting point is 00:50:36 But then what's dope is like let's say Gordon was gonna fight and has and brought in a sponsor and then they want to sponsor the entire thing he gets yeah 20% of anything you bring so featherweight goes up to 55 lightweight is 65 welterweight's 80 so how's Dylan dance make it so I'm saying there's zero chance that you're big when he fought in Belltor he would fight a catch weight it was 175 I like their light heavyweight 225 that I wish they had that when I was right They should have a shape of his life. Maybe maybe yeah, maybe go any fight in KSI in boxing so should I just pulled out? All right, well, that's I'm telling you there's no way Dylan's gonna make how does KSI pull out against Dylan?
Starting point is 00:51:16 Dennis like Dylan's on a boxer KSI is a pretty good boxer. Well, he's legit like for those kind of guys Yes, you know, he's a good boxer for that class Did he fight Tommy shuri or was he going to he was going to then something happened, right? I think but KSI looks legit to me like out of those guys though the influencers. Yeah, he's legit from he's he's got hands Yeah, Logan, but Dylan is not a boxer. So it's crazy that he would You think he could be not even at his best to take that fight. Yeah, I mean I maybe got hurt I'm not sure I just saw I just saw something that he pulled that I don't even Well, he's got a video here. Oh, yeah real sick. I saw got some new coronavirus
Starting point is 00:51:59 Yeah, I mean as a breeze strip on oh These guys see what he's saying. It's oh Put it on we can hear And honestly, I've never been this ill for this long in my life and I hate it I feel useless and it's depressing I feel like I've let so many people down I haven't been able to post any YouTube videos to help promote the fight because I've just been feeling so shit I'm just sick of being sick, man Okay, he's sick sounds legit. Yeah, the brief strip does it I've been sleeping with mouth tape
Starting point is 00:52:35 You tape your mouth. Yeah Game-changer game is that for snoring? It's not just for snoring. It's like you feel better when you wake up You feel more rested really? Yeah, man. It's amazing. I love it Last two weeks, how does it work? What does it look like? I just put a black piece called hostage tape and put a black piece of tape over my mouth is your wife I was like she wears it too. Yeah Give a kiss. You just use any tape or is it special? No, it's special tape for mouth taping.
Starting point is 00:53:09 There's a bunch of companies that make mouth tape. But this company hostage tapes. And it doesn't fall off? No. It has before, but I keep an extra one by the bed if it falls off. When I get like this, like this much stubble, I kind of have to shave. Yeah. So it sticks better.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Like you would have a little bit of issue with your beard You know I wouldn't stick that good. That's why Hitler did his mustache that way so you feel gas mask. That's real No, yeah, yeah, shut the fuck up Jamie looking up. Is that real? Yeah, I know my shit Was gas pretty bad in the first world war yeah, and that's why I did that mustache. Oh, it's real. Yeah, that's real Apparently he was he was gas pretty bad in the first world war. Yeah mustard gas Yeah, bro That first world war was nuts the first time I decided to use giant fans and gas people Toothpaste must have family society said originated from military order trim his large mustache
Starting point is 00:53:58 Fertilitate wearing a gas mask go down the military order During his service in Bavarian infantry division Hitler was ordered to trim his mustache to ensure a proper seal with a gas mask Wow And you got the Michael Jordan mustache as a fun fact of the day Wow Michael Jordan My Jones only get ever pulled off ever Shit, that's cool. You're cool in a commercial Michael Jordan It's funny that that mustache is gone forever, you know, didn't fight where the game is like in the front line and or one Oh, yeah, I can't cast you muster gas
Starting point is 00:54:30 And he got fucked up, right? and that's when he Decided to run for everything because he thought he was saved by God Cuz they really know it's like the craziest thing about the gas thing the guy who invented Zyklon a which became zyklon B which they they killed the Jews with. That guy, Fritz Haber, who was a Jew himself, he originally, when he invented this, he also invented the Haber method for extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere. The Haber method is responsible for 50% of the nitrogen in most people's bodies, because the Haber method of extracting nitrogen made it so they could fertilize all kinds of soil
Starting point is 00:55:07 So he invents that and he also invents this gas that kills everybody at the same time And there's no odor right well zyklon B. There's no odor. Yeah, zyklon A was invented I think it was a pesticide and the idea was the smell was so awful so that you would recognize when it was there and you'd get the fuck away from it. Then Zyklon B, they got rid of the smell. But when they were gassing the troops, he was being wanted for crimes against humanity,
Starting point is 00:55:38 for war crimes, at the same time he was gonna win the Nobel Prize for inventing the Hobbit method. Wild. And then when Hitler takes over, the Jews all get kicked out of Germany. And he's kind of sort of privileged because he's a part of the administration, but then he gets ostracized and he winds up having to be, he winds up being exiled and he dies on the run. He died on the run? Died on the run. Died running away from the Nazis Jesus man Yeah, why crazy story do have we talked about the JFA fuck JFK files not yet? No, no one else no
Starting point is 00:56:13 I mean we talked about a little bit yesterday But there's I don't know anything like groundbreaking nothing right nothing that I've seen so far Do you follow that a that page on It's called Real News No Bullshit? Yes. They posted something about it. It was like, I think it was like 2,000 pages or something. And they posted like the key takeaways. I read a little bit about it, but I kind of just was like...
Starting point is 00:56:34 It's kind of like confirmation that I was like mafia, Israel, and the CIA. Well I read one thing that the CIA within a week or two had dismissed the idea of a single shooter. I read one thing. They're like, no, there's more than one shooter. Like this was this. Yeah. It took them a week to figure that out. Weren't they involved?
Starting point is 00:56:55 Allegedly. But here's the thing. What part of the CIA? So like if you're involved in killing the president, you're not telling Mike down the hallway. It's a small group. You're of an enormous fucking office filled with thousands of employees. It's not like everybody say hey get a meeting That Irish guy fuck him. Yeah, you know we're gonna take him for a ride to Dallas and shoot him in the fucking head
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah, let's go that phone call from Lyndon B. Johnson to the wife Yeah, but like a month later. We're fighting on site. They were fucking huh wasn't that after she was slapping That was after that kind of was dead after a month later, we're fighting on site. They were fucking huh wasn't that after she was slapping that was after Was that after yeah a month later? How you not gonna say goodbye next time? I see him I'll give you a slap in our Christmas. She's like you better. I'll wear the rouge or whatever. He's like you better Oh, bro, I think everybody was fucking everybody back then Wild people. Yeah, nobody there's no social media. No one's a snitch They all just I mean everybody knew that Kennedy was fucking everybody. It was all the press knew no
Starting point is 00:57:49 MMM. Okay, wasn't he didn't have an affair with Marilyn Monroe. Oh, yeah, and the brother did and the Brothers, dude in That's a fat fact fact And that's probably why she died He's probably started writing a memoir and I can't wrap yeah, they said they said the brother the pillow talk is what fucked her over Because he'd fill her in all this shit. Oh boy, and then John of came like bro. What are you doing? Really? They're both fucking her yeah
Starting point is 00:58:20 hilarious Hilarious people while I said wow No, no accountability you get away with it And if you're the president like that's the reason why the president's wanted to fuck Despite rumors and speculation Affair oh no is this Google Jamie. This is uh yeah. Yeah, it's a reputable news source You didn't see the documentary on Netflix then definitely no proof. Yeah, I mean no speculation. Let it go I did the JFK stuff kind of just confirmed confirmed but kind of they label conspiracy theorists like yeah, we've said it was CIA Well, it's gonna take a while for the nerds to really go through it
Starting point is 00:58:55 And I'll can't even spend through it. I bet you've been through it. I would assume busy with the McCrone thing I watched two hours of that today me too. Have you seen her McCrone's a man? Yeah, Bridget McCrone's She got me hook line sinker I was eating breakfast Yeah, I do See elk steaks watching Candace Owens on my fucking my YouTube. I love her. Did you say this is crazy? Have you dived into her Harvey Weinstein? Yes, I watched the first episode of that It's crazy. So you can't believe I'm on Harvey Weinstein's side. Right? Crazy. Like I thought he was like guilty of like heinous crimes and then
Starting point is 00:59:34 you listen to it and you're like wait what? What is going on? When they go through the actual affidavit and like what the girls accuse him for you're like what? Yeah also the emails back and forth with the girl yeah she was talking about his testicles he doesn't have them. Hmm hmm like there's all these like things that should have been That should have like completely thrown out a lot of her claims Like she was talking about he made me like hold his balls or something He doesn't have balls doesn't have balls his balls are like literally like inside of his thighs like 30 years old that to get rid Of him. He's got a terrible disease. Let's like gangrene of the dick. Oh my god. Have you ever heard of it never heard
Starting point is 01:00:08 Oh, he's got this crazy disease where your dick is basically like rotting off and which is kind of crazy for a guy Who's like obviously a sex addict your dick starts rotting away, and then you still whip it out Yeah, you're whipping out a zombie dick. Yeah, I guess mass. It's a mess. What is that actually called? You're whipping out a zombie dick? Yeah. Like it's a mess. It's a mess. What is that actually called? Prosecutors revealed to the jury that Weinstein underwent surgery in 1999 for four-nears gangrene,
Starting point is 01:00:30 which required doctors to remove some of his scrotum. That surgery caused a pretty noticeable scarring because of an infection. His testicles were actually taken from his scrotum and put into his inner thighs. Eeeeeeewww. So you go through the reports and they're like, yeah, he made me suck on his balls like you know, half balls. Well, that's a problem.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Whoa. There's a lot of problems. The lady was a grifter, the lady allegedly and was going back and forth from rich guy to rich guy trying to get things happening and Harvey put her in a few things. That was Harvey's move apparently. Yeah. He put you in a few things and but like Whitney told me that he would make deals with ladies Like oh look suck my dick. I'll get you an Oscar. Yeah, and they're Batman and they would suck his dick
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah, and and he would get him an Oscar and like this is the thing where everybody thanked him. Thank you, Harvey That actually happened. Yeah, yeah gave an actress an Oscar. Well, he didn't give him an Oscar He gave him an Oscar award-winning role in a Miramax film Which is gonna be a blockbuster, which pretty much gets you real close. And then there's the influence of it being a Harvey Weinstein movie. He was the king at the time and everybody followed his lead. Like when, you know, you have big movies like Pulp Fiction and those kinds of films that Miramax produced, they produced bangers. You go back and look at the Miramax library, banger after banger when Harvey Weinstein was was because Quentin Tarantino. Yeah, I mean, it's just like the wildest movies from the wildest dude
Starting point is 01:01:51 You know who is clearly a sex addict. He's like if you want to be a lead in pulp fiction You know suck these balls in my thoughts. I Mean This was in the wrong place at the wrong time if this happened in the 80s I Mean He was in the wrong place at the wrong time if this happened in the 80s They probably would have thrown it out. Yeah, but in the me too movement. They were it was a hot witch hunt There was a lot of people that gotten deep shit Do look look into the dude from that 70s show who's in prison for life his appeals coming up look into that one Really, bro
Starting point is 01:02:23 He had like that was like three three chicks, right? Three chicks they and if you look at the appeal they start off with oh he raped me and drugged me And then it went to hail the gun to my head like it's all they keep changing their stories That one's wild that one's wild. Yeah, that one's wild. You've been following the Justin Baldoni Blake lively thing Oh Blake lively talk about ruin your reputation and Ryan Reynolds Yeah, they fucked up Ryan's trying to get out of it now Yeah, get out of the lawsuit and they're like you are a key part of this. This is what you get though This is what you get trying to fucking ruin a guy's livelihood by by using the me to movement because they were trying to take over
Starting point is 01:02:56 The movie. Yeah, they were trying to go to the movie and the whole franchise. He owned the franchise They're fucked the whole thing's crazy. They're fucked and he's suing the New York Times and he's got a great case You're not in the paint, but that's what it takes. It's what it's like Johnny Depp crazy fuck and he's suing the New York Times and he's got a great case going on in the paint But that's what it takes. It's what it's like Johnny Depp. Yeah, he's like, all right. Yeah, he did for the boys exactly exactly You got to do it. You need real motherfuckers to be like nah, man. I don't out like this Yeah, especially a guy like that. It was like known as being like this really sweet nice guy Yeah, and then it's like all right, you know, he posted the receipts. He's like, oh remember our tech exchange And then he's like, all right, he posted the receipts. He's like, oh remember tech exchange
Starting point is 01:03:30 How much he told him to cut you know to come into the dressing room while she was breastfeeding They're fine And then part of the complaint was that he came into the breast room while I was breastfeeding Like you literally have a text exchange back and forth They just never thought that anybody was gonna come out with the receipts cuz no one's ever done it cuz everyone you just Scared yeah, because rile Reynolds a list blake lively a list like don't they're the Queen's oh is it over it's 2025 that shit's over man up against the cage we're terrible at this yeah we've been Harvey Weinstein's yeah it's in his thighs we missed the favorite get choked out
Starting point is 01:04:01 clothes guard gating I'm gonna get a coke real quick. You know what I want anything? Nope. Nope. I'm gonna take a piss really quick. Alright, I'll wait for you to take piss when I'm all gone. We're gonna miss you, Eddie. It'd be cool if we grab me a coke, right? I got you one.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Go grab a coke, Eddie! I'll wait till he's out there. That'd be cool. Oh dude, I haven't seen him out there yet. One, two, three. Oh, that's a belt, bro. That's the Gordon Ryan belt, motherfuckers. Right there.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah, that's badass. Prominent position. That is a prominent position that's it that is a prominent position yeah that looks awesome you pulled up in some shit today your new car that fucking truck that Jesus Christ I've seen that car what is it oh it's a Shelby Super Snake what year 24 okay first one I've ever seen how much horsepower does it make 830 830 yeah whoo howdy five oh so fun, of course when my communist Little make the GT 500s and I know but they make the super snake and that's why I bought it I would have bought a GT 500 but there was one company that was doing a swap
Starting point is 01:04:56 They were doing a six-speed swap on a GT 500 almost bought that but then I thought about I was like I don't want any Frankenstein cars like I don't know how to do I see stuff weird shit because you know it's not designed for that, but the Super Snake is designed for it Oh, it auto blips on the downshifts. It's nice Sounds nice. Oh, it sounds like war it sounds like a real American muscle car, but it's modern So it's like it has all the feel of a muscle car the lurch when you hit the gas Fucking giant power great handling great handling the brakes are great Yeah, but it's also real comfortable to drive suspension is beautiful. Yeah, it's a great fucking car, and it just so good-looking
Starting point is 01:05:36 Oh, it's so fun. I love it. I love it. It's it's such an American car, bro I was at me come yesterday. You should see some of the shit people do with those cars, man It's wild Mustangs everything oh with everything if I mean the Mustangs for sure like the old car. Bro, I was at Mecham yesterday. You should see some of the shit people do with those cars, man. It's wild. Mustangs? Everything. Oh, with everything. I mean, the Mustangs for sure, like the old, the 60s, all that shit. Oh yeah. Dude. And when they, the Resto mods, I'm just sitting there like, bro, I want it all. I know it's a problem. I want it all. Cars are a real problem. I, I, we're talking to three guys here, real car problems. Oh dude, I had a budget, like they cleared me to buy something and I've never been on anything. I went fucking nuts dude. What'd you get? I got it. It's
Starting point is 01:06:09 for you got a good way. I got a Jeep. I went nuts man. I tackled my manager. I didn't know what to do. I was so nervous. I was so fucking nervous. There's there's like big ballers. There's a guy I went to the kids me one there's some old I have no idea what he did. He was next to me in 12 minutes probably spent seven million dollars in cars and didn't give a fuck yeah I was like bro you just won that GT40 how are you not no fist pump nothing? That's yours? That's mine. What color is that? It's like a purplish pinkish? Yeah it's like a pinkish but has a 392 it's the last call edition brand new
Starting point is 01:06:43 less than 200 miles Look I attack my fucking manager right there. Oh, so you were right there what happened on ESPN? I didn't know So embarrassed when they told me I was on live TV That's hilarious those 392 Jeeps are sick. Oh, they're great I'm gonna toss some king shocks on that bitch a big magnet That's another classic American car I mean the jeeps look exactly like jeeps and they have like that for they look updated but it's kind of like a 911 That's all I was just gonna say. Yeah, they never change the body style. So they have this cult following
Starting point is 01:07:18 You know, it's the most a Google truck in the world. I believe Wrangler. Yeah, they have like a cult following They also there's so much customization available for those things They've been around for so long. You're like Lego. Yeah, you can't go wrong. So much shit for him. Can't go wrong with that. What um... You ever see the America's most wanted Jeeps? Oh, where they toss the Hellcat in them? Oh, yeah, baby. They put 1200 horsepower in those bitches. That's my shit. Yeah And they do up the suspension and you know map everything out perfect What are you gonna get one? Yeah, I still send me one easy too many things Get some bullshit like a forks
Starting point is 01:07:55 Power stroke and I call him like cool cool. He tells what he has. Oh my god. Yeah, there's one Look at that as a thousand horsepower Yeah, they make some wild ones to 60s are you gonna get the new zero one I want to I should but I shouldn't but I Will I already put the order order into spec one you had the SF 90 on order didn't you? Yeah? No, it hasn't got here yet She just get the zero one instead. You know the other ones going to my wife It's fair. It, that's why I Stopped her kind of stop driving automatic cars
Starting point is 01:08:37 Unless it's my Tesla What's your favorite car drive? Don't say I don't know The Tesla if I want to get there Tesla, if I want to get there quick. Yeah. But you want people, you know, flipping you off and shit. You don't want them drawing Nazi signs on it. You don't have too much of a problem with that in Austin.
Starting point is 01:08:56 You know what's weird is you know me, I can't stand electric cars, but now that the libs are like, I'm like, oh shit, I might get a Cybertruck, I wish a motherfucker would. Yeah, just cause. Oh, now I want one a cyber truck. I wish a motherfucker would just cuz I wish I'm just cuz oh now I want one. Yeah, you fucked up. It's so stupid I might get one and swap a diesel in it so it looks like and they don't know just so they fuck with me Yeah People have done that they put v8s. They've dropped v8s and test. Yes. It's a lot
Starting point is 01:09:19 It's a lot of work. It's also why tossing you gotta pay for the cyber truck It's like and I'm gonna pay for it's a disaster rich rebuilds. It's also why. You're basically just tossing, you gotta pay for the Cybertruck and I'm gonna have to pay for it. It's a disaster. Rich Rebuilds did one. And then it's just slower. Yeah. Yeah, it's silly.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Sometimes it's not all about speed though, you know? No. When people tell me that I'm like, ah, you ever driven like a fucking water-cooled fucking, you know, flat six Porsche, like stick? No, no, of course. Of course. Right. It's not all about-
Starting point is 01:09:43 Especially the air-cooled ones. Yeah, the old ones. It's just not all about that especially those old ones are so light you feel everything you're dealing with a 2,000 pound car Even if it only has 250 horsepower. It's so fun. That's different. It's so it's so different It's like you're an amusement park ride. You know it's like It's just like feels like you could die at any point, but then you look down you're doing like 35 miles Yeah, yeah, like my hummer is not the fastest, but fuck it's cool man. Yes, there's nothing like I forgot you got a hummer What's in that thing 6o power stroke fully built gas turbo aren't there electric hummers now? Yeah, those are great man the new GMC's those are fucking great red band has one of those it's fucking awesome
Starting point is 01:10:23 They crab walk crab walk Yeah, parallel park like this I heard the charging some has some they've had a lot of issues with me. I know I hasn't had any problems Don't figure those out though. Yeah, he loves it though. It's fast as shit too for a big-ass fucking truck They're so fast so easy so fast, but huge it's an enormous truck I think they're gonna start making less electric vehicles now that trumps in they're already doing it Here's the problem with electric vehicles is the number one problem Resale terrible to Porsche tycans they sell them for like you know what is a like a tycan turbo s 160
Starting point is 01:10:58 They sell them like a year later 70 200 they lose so much value. I lost my crazy value. Why is that? Because nobody wants to buy a used electric car because the range drops off. So like say if you buy a Corvette, right, you buy like a 2000, you can buy a 2017 Corvette like a ZR1. They're still really expensive. Super expensive. ZR1 a manual from like 2017. it's like, yeah, 200 grand right now, right now. But you'll think about a better comparison would be think about like your your Ford GT 2006, right? They're 500 grand minimum now, right?
Starting point is 01:11:35 But that's the different because that's like a classic, it's 20 years old. But a new car, say like, say if you get like a new AMG GT, and you know, it's a 2025 you sell it next year You're not gonna lose much money If you sell like a Ferrari you lose no money Like if you buy a Ferrari today and you sell it in a year and you got a thousand miles on you'll make money Porsche make money you'll make sure the best but if you have a fucking electric car like Audi's those e-tron's those are horrible Yeah, even Tesla plaid sick cars cars I can get a friend of mine got one of those and he got like a year old
Starting point is 01:12:10 one for like 70 grand and brand new it's like 150 or something like that it's crazy when I just get like a new battery or something well expensive big problem expensive before that batteries and they still have battery like for the most part like you're not driving 250 miles if you have a plug at home if you plug it in at home You have a supercharger at your house, which I do for my car. It's great I just get it home plug it in it's always good to go and it gets like fully charged I think my car gets like 350 miles if you drive like a grandma, but For normal day-to-day you just stick it in there. You never go to the gas station. It's awesome
Starting point is 01:12:47 See before all that road tripping it It's like yeah as long as you're not road trip if you're road training it You got to really map it out Especially if you don't have a Tesla because then you have to find other Stations like my hummer out of a 55 gallon diesel tank in the back I feel that bitch up maybe once every three weeks like it gets good gas mileage I can go on long road trips there's a few great options that aren't Tesla's one is lucid yeah there's a cool they make them like super high-end Eric Griffin has one does he really yeah yeah they're a bit
Starting point is 01:13:18 shut down on us in the parking lot but yeah we couldn't we couldn't get out it died it was like a hundred degrees I was like I'm gonna break your car dude. He's like, oh out of all the times This has never happened happens while you're in the car. Isn't there a manual release? Isn't there a manual release? He didn't have that. Okay. Yeah, we have to wait like 40 minutes Isn't there someone come and help it out? No, eventually he called and they're like go just reset is like resetting your phone Oh, I fucking You know all the radiation No, I'm good question like EMF right it's a good question because Problem if you're not supposed to have your phone by your head, you know, yeah, I mean your whole cars big-ass phone
Starting point is 01:14:01 I don't know. That's why the people that's a real problem Cars big-ass phone. I don't know. That's why the people that that's a real problem According to people are a good point and many other people don't think that you should have earpods earpods in like not They say you should have the wired ones only and even those are not the best thing to have You should just listen to things like on a Bluetooth speaker But also the people of analyzing Tesla's there could be a worse car to vandalize because there's cameras fucking everywhere 360 so many people are going to do and if you don't have a Tesla You don't really know that like if you're like it within 20 feet of the car. It's recording. Yes. Yeah. Yeah century mode Yeah, seven cameras. It's so wild. Yeah fully HD cameras. See your face. There's so many guys who got busted
Starting point is 01:14:43 Have you seen that liberals. Have you seen that? Fat liberals, just, mmm. Have you seen those Tesla mini homes? They're never in shape. There was one guy who was rubbing shit. Like he would like, Grab his ass. Like grab his ass cheeks, and then like just rub it all over the door.
Starting point is 01:14:55 It's just baby shit. That guy was looking for an excuse to rub shit on things. Yeah, I guess. He probably goes home and jerks off with his own shit. Yeah. Have you seen those Tesla mini homes? No. Oh, you haven't seen them no do Tesla has tiny homes they're like like trailers but like super high-tech with with so have you seen those but not that Tesla has got many homes no shit have
Starting point is 01:15:19 you seen this Jamie the mini home I'm made by Tesla though oh no it is no seriously I'm looking the one the one that I've seen I just saw a couple days ago. It's Tesla He sure wasn't like an AI generated thing No, no, that's a has solar panels. Yeah, they have Tesla's Tesla's mini home that that's not real. That's what it was that she gets Cal and already that's not real Yeah, it gets Cal Yeah, there's fucking AI they get me man. I asked Elon like five times you making a phone We keep getting these AI
Starting point is 01:15:54 That's fake click on it. It's from two years ago. It's not real It's fake so good policy with the count but I thought Conor McGregor was in the movie Popeye Today's little house there's boxable. No, I know about that like that's real, right? Yeah Oh, yeah, I mean you could buy a house for ten grand Now if you just like a single dude who has a plot of land just parked that house with solar You you could literally live off the grid in a little bullshit house. Like that, is that what? And then you get Starlink, is that real?
Starting point is 01:16:30 No, it was like a little, it was a pod, like an egg, it looks like an egg. It's AI, Doug. Wow, they got me good. Those little tiny houses that you could buy, like if you were just a dude living by yourself, and you're like, I don't need nothing. If you're young, it'd be dope.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Yeah, yeah, man It's not expensive like you like somebody leaves you a little plot of land. You got a couple acres somewhere And dream. Yeah one a one-bedroom house with Sit on your front porch and say fuck the world. I own this whole thing. I own this no mortgage Yeah, no mortgage $10,000 house and it's nice. It's like what do you need? You need a kitchen? Do you TV what the fuck do you need if you're a single guy you need a bed? You need a TV unless you're trying to get bad. I just trying to get mad All the dudes like this is dope the chicks like good luck. That's not a panty. Yeah No, no, no, a tiny house is a no-go
Starting point is 01:17:26 Like why do you have a tiny house? Like what do you what? Can I see your back count? How much you make are you gonna be able to feed my babies? Yeah? Yeah, there's a bunch of videos from a few days ago that this is all just non-sensory I generated that's interesting Why that right there? That's what I saw. Yeah'd be a dope podcast, too, to put in the middle of nowhere. That's fake. Wow. That's amazing. I'm not going to say that that's necessarily fake, but that's not a house that someone could live in. That's like a couch. It's a suicide pod, Eddie. Yeah, it's a little drug den.
Starting point is 01:17:59 That'd be dope, though. That's exactly what I saw. And it's like a little five-minute mini documentary commercial. Yeah, they go deep Yeah, they got you. Well, they get you man. These AI things are nuts man. I've been fooled. Yeah Yeah, I've seen AI things with my own voice on I'm like, wow, this is crazy and I know it's fake Speaking of fakery when you had Mel Gibson on your podcast the other day He brought up the shroud of Turin. And I always thought that was fake. Like in the 80s. What is that? The shroud? It's like the cloth that Jesus was buried in and left an image of him. And in the 80s, like 1988, they
Starting point is 01:18:36 did carbon dating on it and they go, it's fake. See that? Yeah, literally has never image of Jesus burned into it somehow or another. I never looked into it. I just figured it was fake. But listening to you and Mel Gibson talk about it, I'm like, what? Is there? Well, apparently it's a lot older than they assumed when they did the first testing. And one of the problems is that there's cross contamination.
Starting point is 01:19:01 There's also been repairs to it. But they did subsequent testing and they found that it was like 2,000 plus years old yeah, and the one thing the one thing that's in the range. It's the most studied Artifact ever like particle physicists nuclear engineers. They all studied it and they some of them Some believe in it some don't believe in it, but they all agree on one thing. No one knows how they did it. Right. There's no paint, there's no dye. So dude, all this week, dude, all day I'm just watching documentary after podcast on
Starting point is 01:19:36 this shit and it's fucking mind blowing. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. It's mind blowing. If it turns out that they can't figure out how anyone could ever do it, like if no one has come up with a theory of how to do that today, that's where it gets really interesting. Because it wasn't paint and it wasn't dye and it wasn't burned in. They all agree on that. They all agree it's a mystery.
Starting point is 01:19:57 But then the skeptics say, just because we don't know how it was done doesn't make it real, which is a good point. But then the other side is like, like dude all these scientists have no idea how they faked it it's got to be real so it's all about how you look at it I lean on the side there's a there's a nuclear engineer most fun there's a nuclear engineer you can go on YouTube his name is Roger Robert Rucker watch his breakdown of this guy's a nuclear dude. He's breaking down the photo. It's insane because it's a negative image on a non-photographic material. It's linen. And then it turns out, like if you look at it with the
Starting point is 01:20:36 naked eye, it's white and then you see the image of the face is kind of like yellow. You can barely see it. But in like 1898, some photographer took a picture of it and then flipped and then looked at the negative. And then all of a sudden in the negative, the whole body appears front and back because he was buried like with the images. He was buried with the sheet under him and it went around his head. That's that's the back of him because he Yeah, the right ones the back and the left ones the front. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:05 No one knows how they did it. No scientists. And he even has the holes where the wrist would be nailed. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. That was the thing with Jesus with me, it was always very hard to believe in Jesus. I'm like, dude, the resurrection, that's a hard one to wrap your brain around, right? I could believe that he existed. I could believe that he got crucified.
Starting point is 01:21:23 A lot of people got crucified. But the resurrection was always the thing that kept me from really believing in Jesus I'm like there's no way that resurrection was real, but even this is real. It doesn't mean he was resurrected, right? It just means he was crucified and he was actual real man No, the thing is is how the image got on Let's just the people that believe that it's real believe that when he was resurrected some kind of ultraviolet radiation, some kind of burst made that image. Because that image has never been on any other shroud. People get buried in shrouds all the time.
Starting point is 01:21:55 There's never an image like that. Pretty crazy. And the crazy thing is the blood, there's no image under the blood. So the blood was there first and then the image is after. It's crazy shit. Dude, I'm like, I went deep down a rabbit hole all week just watching the skeptics, the scientists, particle physics, they have no idea how the fuck
Starting point is 01:22:20 that image got on the front and back? The back of them too? It's pretty weird. Did you see the thing? Apparently it's crazy. It's crazy. Apparently there's some structures underneath the pyramid How they not like that that before well fuck they don't know whether or not that's legit or these guys are jumping in conclusions a lot of people are calling bullshit and saying they jump to conclusions a lot of people are saying that it really A lot of people are calling bullshit and saying they jumped to conclusions. A lot of people are saying that it really, you can't tell from those images, like what they drew in the, you know, the 3D image where they drew everything and made a model of it.
Starting point is 01:22:53 They're doing a lot of guessing. So they're gonna, they're gonna do more testing though. There's definitely something under there. Someone starts thinking something is under there. Something's under there and it's massive. And if these guys are correct that it goes down two kilometers Like help me explain that explain that with any conventional wisdom aliens That's more than a mile into the earth. That's fucking nuts
Starting point is 01:23:16 Yeah, like what is what does that mean? Like what who did that and what was the purpose of it? Because there's a guy named Christopher done It thinks that the entire Giza pyramid, the big one, the Great Pyramid, was a power plant. Yeah. And he has this whole schematic that he mapped out. Like this is how you would generate hydrogen. You would have something underneath the surface, underneath the ground, that was
Starting point is 01:23:38 causing a vibration, a pounding. And then this reverberation, this vibration would go through the entire building because it was all made out of limestone and then they had these channels these paths that they would fill with chemicals and they would go into what's called the Kings chamber and this porous limestone that would allow the chemicals to leap through the leech through and that would create hydrogen yeah yeah so I mean I'm doing I'm butchering it I'm sorry mr. Dunn but if you listen to his take on it, and he's an engineer He explains why the pathways and everything this is exactly how you would do it if it was some sort of a power plant
Starting point is 01:24:14 But whatever it is it's like I don't think that it's a tomb I just I just don't think that makes any sense remember your bit where you said I bet people used to be Really smart, but the dumb people just out fuck the smart people and the one at a staggering pace. Yeah, yeah, man I mean the pyramids for sure a gold or a mystery like how the fuck do they build those and now Finding out what's underneath them like fuck who knows go go Beckley Tepley. There's all these mysterious knows go go Beckley Tepe there's all these miss mysterious architecture everywhere yeah but it's everywhere mm-hmm everywhere everywhere every city like these cathedrals like think about power tools were invented in the 1890s
Starting point is 01:24:56 and they're talking about these insane cathedrals all over the world cars out of stone with no power tools right how the fuck did they build like you ever seen that one in India there's there's a few of them in India but there's one that's all carved out of stone they didn't bring any rocks there they don't know where the stone went yeah it's all insanely intricate and carved out of stone and fucking massive and they're everywhere do you know what it's South America Asia China look at that look at that bro they carved that out of solid stone they might have been bored as fuck look how tiny the
Starting point is 01:25:32 people are down there's not shit you know long that would take yeah yeah yeah hundreds of years they don't have shit to do spectacular the craftsmanship is spectacular and no one knows how old that is it's like take a guess so you you're back to your bed people you stood like it's really accurate oh Molly McCann's getting choked shit she needs a win bad dude have you heard she's getting choked well the hands aren't locked yet she's no I want him to support right she keeps turning She's got a good grip on that shoulder cap though. Oh now she's fucked. Now she's fucked. She's out of it. She's out of it.
Starting point is 01:26:16 But it wasn't good that she had her hand underneath the jaw that easily. She only got 40 seconds. Whenever she fights the crowd's just cheering and she's getting beat up. Well she's so tough. She's just cheering and she's getting beat up. Well, she's so tough She's so tough and she's such a gamer. It's just not enough That's it she's lost what four out of five now Yeah If that proves to be true and there really are these massive structures underneath the pyramid they got to change everything There's dude there's the past civilizations that were super highly advanced there's
Starting point is 01:26:48 got to be I mean you know what I have a hard time getting into but I every now and then I'll dive into it Giants Giants Giants that's another all that shit well they're not I don't know about that because I think you need a lot more than Giants to move those fucking stones you need some kind of crazy technology because Giants don't explain the engineering It doesn't explain the the precision that was involved like whatever they did they were they were moving 80-ton stones from 500 miles away and through the mountains and there's no roads and no one knows how they did it There's no explanation your Instagram algorithm fuck you up with the the giant AI videos. Oh, yeah Your Instagram algorithm fuck you up with the the giant AI videos. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:27:32 Josh huge 70 foot dudes carrying giant stones like jacked shredded You know I there's a lot of reports throughout the ages of giant human beings You know and it look what's a giant nine feet tall ten feet tall fucking like a race of nine foot ten feet tall people and there's always Stories about like bones that were giant bones that got Transported this Missoni in they covered it up, and I assume they don't live long because they're so big so they probably know I think it's Robert Wadlow was a eight foot eleven. He's like on record the tall right He had like a serious disease. Now imagine a foot taller than that guy jacked, but just a different kind of human being. Have you heard of the little season that's in the Bible? They talk about the little season. No, we get a coat. Well, the the in the Bible, it didn't get
Starting point is 01:28:16 you a cocoa. I asked you when you were leaving and get a coke. Oh, I'm sorry. But no, I'm good. In the Bible, apparently it you know Your average Christian thinks tribulation is coming right Jesus gonna is gonna eventually come right tribulation We're gonna be judged right and then there's gonna be a one thousand year millennial Where Jesus returns and rules for a thousand years and all the resurrected? Apostles are gonna be kings and they're gonna rule this realm that we're in. That's what the tribulation, Jesus returns, a thousand year millennia, this is in the Bible. And then after the thousand year, and then during those thousand years, there's a guy named Paul Stobbs, I had him on my podcast, he told me all about
Starting point is 01:28:59 this, he's on YouTube, Understanding Conspiracies on YouTube, Paul Stobbs, he's amazing. He's talking about, so that's what we're waiting for. Jesus returned, he rules for a thousand years, he's the king of this earth. And then while those thousand years are going on, Satan is chained to the lake of fire. So there's no Satan, it's just Jesus and his apostles ruling. And then after the thousand years, this called the little satanic season. It's in the Bible too. I checked the little season where Jesus lets Satan go. And then Satan rules this earth. And he influences all the nations. And it's called the little satanic season and that and the purpose of that is to test people like work and there's a there's a theory there's a theory that he already ruled for he came back in the Apostles lifetime and ruled
Starting point is 01:29:56 they already did that a thousand year millennial and now we're in the little season right now doesn't it seem like Satan is like influencing all the nations doesn't it seem like an evil world Well, it seems like evil has always been a part of the human race. There's always been people in genocide There's always been evil. There's always been people that justify murder for money Yeah, you know bombings of fucking apartment buildings. I sent them a link like a like a two-minute video Jamie can you play this real quick? This guy explains it's really,
Starting point is 01:30:27 and then you'll see all the structures. So that explains, so there's a theory. There's a theory that it explains all these structures that were built by angels. Well, you gotta wonder when you get back to that Zechariah, Sitch, and stuff, because one of the things about this whole Anunnaki thing was that they were giants.
Starting point is 01:30:44 And the big theory is that the giants bread with human beings, which probably means some sort of genetic engineering, like taking like existing primates and turning them into human beings. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you I mean, those are the most fun. Those are the most fun. The idea that we're visited by an alien and an alien race and this alien race is far superior and that they used us as slaves to mine for gold. Those are the most fun theories. Did you get that link? Yes. Well, it's 22 minutes long. No, just play like two minutes. I know I'm trying to find a good spot. No, right in the right. It's right. What is their mechanisms? So in the beginning through space. Oh, no,
Starting point is 01:31:24 like at right at one minute, right at like one minute. You're right. Like one just showing videos, though. No, no, no. But there's talking over it is a narration over it. So try it now. So, but Paul, why are you doing this? Just stop. Stop it. He's not. It's clearly like this is too much right now. Yeah. You just kept pummeling me.
Starting point is 01:31:43 It's just kept hitting Thoroughly loved it. I've talked about it. He's about to start a hundred people You know everybody I know I'm like You know, there's a theory out there and I didn't I have no clue what I'm talking about So please ask for a little bit more time this video is called the little season theory Number one and the YouTube channels understanding conspiracies the little season theory number one It's so good. He just has no idea what he's talking about though, too Do we should just go start it right there? This is such an any Bravo subject today to walk me through this. Here we go Okay, I'll try and cover most bases
Starting point is 01:32:21 I'm not gonna be able to thoroughly explain every single nuance today in like two hours. It's just it's just not going to happen. What I'll try my best to do in this talk is give a foundational overview of most of the talking points involved around this theory. And it's a working theory. Let's bear that in mind. We're still figuring things out. There's multiple options for certain sections of this theory work where it could have gone. So I'll try my best to relay as much as I can. But the basic premise to work off here is that what most modern Christians are waiting for today is the return of Jesus Christ after the tribulation. And we all have
Starting point is 01:32:57 our eyes on the signs. We're trying to discern the signs around us, trying to determine who the Antichrist will be, what the mark of the beast will be, all of those things. We're kind of looking for them and waiting for those signs to happen, which will be the signs of the coming of the Son of Man in the clouds. Okay. Which would be tribulation, judgments. And then obviously a millennial rain is what people are waiting for. And we get to people get to live with Christ for a thousand years as it says in Revelation 20. So people are pretty adamant we're living in that time we're living in the time just before tribulation it's just around the corner it's just about to happen
Starting point is 01:33:37 okay that's what people are pretty adamant where we at that's the mainstream thought of not only conspiracy Christians but just mainstream mainstream Christianity. That is the view of modern Christians. We are in that time. They've always been other views out there which say, you know, well, you know, it's a spiritual kingdom and we're living in it now. You know, that goes on forever and ever. And there's no physical kingdom and all these type of things. You have a millennialists who believe that type of thing.
Starting point is 01:34:03 What this theory says kind of blows it all out of the water. It's a completely new take on the situation. And there has been a worldview called preterism, which was created a while ago. And I think about 1600s by think it was people say it was a Jesuit, but it may have been a Jesuit. But this theory we have today is not preterism classically so-called. It's kind of a something else. And a lot of people who don't like this idea will attack preterism and think that's what we're talking about. Most preterists, even they believe it's a
Starting point is 01:34:38 spiritual kingdom. And we're not saying that here. This is talking about a real physical, tangible thousand years where Christ reigned on earth. This theory posits it's all already happened. We're not living in the times just before tribulation. We're living after a thousand year reign of Christ. He's already been on earth. He has reigned for a thousand years on earth with his resurrected saints
Starting point is 01:35:04 and the elect who survived through tribulation. Pete Slauson Wouldn't there be a record of that? Doesn't that make sense that Christians would document that? Steve McLaughlin He goes over like why, why if there was a record and we knew, then this wouldn't be a test, it wouldn't be a reason for the little season, the little satanic season. He let Satan out he unchanged there's a dude there's a painting of Lucifer and he stand he looks just like the fuck Statue of Liberty and he's got a chain like a
Starting point is 01:35:33 shackled around his ankle with a broken chain and it's a famous painting of Lucifer and he's like this right and then you look at the Statue of Liberty that's not a woman that's a dude and then and it's got a fucking Shackle around it's it's I thought it was a strong chair with a broken chain Those that liberty has a shack around tackle with a broken chain just like the family find the pain. No, you don't find out Punching Lucifer Statue of Liberty so much fun That's not a trans dude, I should shut you had a strong jaw strong jaw and some nose You know some boobs man boobs look at that. That's a painting of Lucifer. Oh, right
Starting point is 01:36:18 I am and you think that's a check to the full full France just rolling us though. Look at the chain He's got a damn Lucifer's dick is gone He's got the Harvey Weinstein. Yeah Go to the chain Look at it right there. Oh Wow, look at that. That's the foot of the Statue of Liberty broken chain with a shackle But Jesus I mean Satan has two arms up in there. Yeah, it's mean. I don't know. I don't know. This is just crazy conspiracy The chain is identical. It's basically the Elon Musk my heart goes out to you
Starting point is 01:36:51 Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say this Jesus is Lord. That is to be still framed somewhere on that. I'm all in dude. I'm all in I'm all in with all this With a shroud of Turinin I'm all in man Christ is king. I'll conveniently crop the image to make a false point oh and that image yeah in that right there. They look pretty fucking similar. No two arms one arm just a dude with an arm up in the air. I mean they modeled it off of something they didn't just create it out of thin air usually too. You think that's a chick? No, no chicks has a big ass body It does the Statue of Liberty the arm is huge. Look at that forearm. That's a jack forearm. What the fuck in the hands?
Starting point is 01:37:31 Yeah, it's a dude's hand dude's arm dude's face dude's nose. Yeah, Statue of Liberty doesn't look like a guy But it does look like it kind of has boobs and he's holding up Torch a torch Lucifer. That's the of us their boobs and the central like legit boobs So good get a full view of the Statue of Liberty. She's cheeked up. Did they give her? Did they get under the copper and heat it up I've never seen the boobs thing does like trans now we look at it now I've never seen the boobs thing does look trans now we look at it now that we look at France like it could be key in a Tesla. It could be tina Tesla right now. Okay, so here's the full image of it Yeah, it doesn't look like it has boobs
Starting point is 01:38:13 That does not look like well that little right one looks like a little bit of a tit That looks like a guy know though could be guy know could be guy know ancient steroids Yeah chick man goddamn Eddie why you fucked that up for me Pretty crazy. I don't know. I've been going down here rabbit holes France one of the Statue of Liberty back Yeah, looks like a check Is it give it back to us you guys are bad? Look at that and Then the lady who's the White House press secretary is like
Starting point is 01:38:45 you're lucky we're not speaking you're you guys would be speaking German if it wasn't for the United States. Every day you wake up it's like what it's like but we needed France to beat them in World War one that's a fact too. France lost like some insane percentage of their population in World War one some I think they lost 25% of their male population They're 18 to 25 or 18 to 30 male population in World War one and another 25% in World War two They they paid heavy no one paid a heavy price in Russia Russia No one talks about they don't teach in schools Russia got fucked they they lost 20 plus million. Yeah, I
Starting point is 01:39:23 Mean Russia's been through so much just the amount of people that got starved by Stalin. France provided crucial aid to the American colonists during the Revolutionary War, including military support, financial assistance and naval power, ultimately contributing significantly to American victory and independence. Yeah, they've helped us through everything. Yeah. So I think it's stupid that we hate France. I don't get it. I think it's stupid that we hate Canada, too I don't get that Canada needs to get their shit together though. Yeah, they have terrible government But but he's out and people are awesome. Yeah Canadians are yeah, but the new guy is like more of the same
Starting point is 01:39:55 Oh really and then they have to have a vote and when they have a vote then that Pierre Paul of that guy Is he one of Fidel Castro's sons too? When is that music conservative? They don't have the same thing over here like it's November 4th. Like with them they get to decide when there's gonna be a vote. When they've had a vote. They'll like call it in three weeks. Three weeks we're gonna have a vote. Like I don't even know when or how. I don't know how their system works up there. They got a squirrely system up there. It's and they just keep losing rights left and right. I mean, what they did during the whole trucker convoy thing was nuts. That was crazy. Crazy. Like full on communist bullshit. Taking people.
Starting point is 01:40:32 There's people still in jail. Well, there's people that lost their bank account that only donated to the truckers. That's wild. That was crazy. They froze their money. That was kind of the start of like them stopping all the crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Well, it was kind of a lot of people woke up the protest Yeah, once that once the truckers did that and they started shooting bank accounts. You're fucking with real like across like all of North America They were like, okay, maybe we should kind of yeah trucker truckers are real dudes. I hold up Yeah, well the fuck up a lot of dudes who woke the fuck up because thank God. Yeah Because they're so polite. They're so nice and polite in Canada That's like till they're not till they're not but it's easy to kind of like you know get them thinking This is the right thing to do hey, yeah, you know and then the next thing you know Have you seen the DMT red laser light thing I've heard about that yo I heard it's nuts
Starting point is 01:41:21 Have you done no, but I've seen a bunch of videos on it Apparently you do if you do DMT and you shoot a red laser I said Jamie a video if you see that shoot a red laser you see the matrix you see code Yeah, and everybody sees the same shit everybody not only that but if you get above the laser and you look down Yes, you see layers of code. Yes. Yes. Check this out. Also, Chase Hughes, I just saw a video of him saying he saw it too. Yeah, this is on Chase Hughes. Is he a famous scientist or something? No, he was just on the podcast though.
Starting point is 01:41:52 This guy was? Yeah, he's a mind control expert. They explain psyops and how they do it. I seen it on Instagram and I heard you and Danny talking about it, so you've done it. Yeah, I saw it on Instagram and flew Danny to my house right away. Like break this down for people because he's got shared amongst my group.
Starting point is 01:42:11 And it's like what the fuck. Exactly. And that's the only question you're still going to have after you see it. It doesn't answer any questions. It just invites a lot more. Yeah. Nothing else. There's code. Absolutely. There is code. So the code's not
Starting point is 01:42:26 like spinning there. It's like it's literally they kind of written out static. It's static. I can move the laser up and down and see all of the letters, but it's like three dimensional. So I can get close to the wall. I can look down inside of the laser that way and I can look up in the laser that way But your best guess at explaining that I would be a fool. Okay, I love we can just leave it at that Somebody like the code consciousness that we're projecting. So they just discovered this Well, I bet some eggheads probably I know I know the guy discovered it have really I don't know him personally But Brandon McCaffer one of my black belts He knows him personally goes dude if you ever wanted to do your podcast I could make you know, I'm like
Starting point is 01:43:10 Let's tell ya let's pay attention to this fight. This is a great fight That was seeing the matrix when you're on DMT with a red laser, yeah, how crazy is that? It's like a red laser. There's a bunch of videos on YouTube Is it like a specific laser or what if you's like a red laser. There's a bunch of videos on YouTube. Is it like a specific laser? Or is it just like a green laser? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I don't know. But there's video of a bunch of people. That's just one dude. That's like the most, all the other guys are like stoner dudes. You know what I mean? I wanted to show like this dude. He seemed to have a little more intelligence a little bit. Or a little believability. believer ability you know yeah but everybody
Starting point is 01:43:47 sees the same shit they see the fucking matrix the numbers the code isn't that fucking life changing did you you saw that tom campbell interview that i did right yeah i love that that was one of my favorite ones yeah that one's not yeah when he's explaining to you that consciousness creates reality I you know what I never really took the simulation theory seriously, but You know I I've always believed like Jesus is a new thing for me like the the Shroud of Turin that that I'm all in now with the Shroud of Turin, but before that I was like I don't know about Jesus maybe but I believe in God and I believe in a creator like whoever created this shit
Starting point is 01:44:26 Here we go. It's God. Here we go, right? Gunna Nelson Kevin Hollen and there must be code on how God created this Yeah, so that that you know, I think science like the simulation guys they're finding What God created like who else could put this simulation together, but a God who else? Here's the craziest theory you know AI is about to become sentient and then they're gonna do quantum computers with AI what if that's how Jesus comes back what if Jesus reemerges and he's just as a created consciousness and he's on an app yeah
Starting point is 01:45:00 by that time it probably would able to communicate to your fucking head You mean they've already figured out how to put signals into people's heads put voices in people's heads They can have they can literally have things Say things to you or you hear voices in your head. Yeah, they have that technology and If quantum computing gets attached to AI and then it figures out how to make better versions of itself Like what does that mean? But isn't that similar like MKUltra what we're doing to compromise people? Well, that's right. How's it different though? Because MKUltra they were just trying to manipulate people with
Starting point is 01:45:36 Acids and they were doing all sorts of different psychedelic drugs and doing it Yeah, but also try to get them to manipulate them so they can get them to do things like try to kill the putt the president or something like that Like which they still do yeah, they have to still do there's no way they stop doing that And I guarantee if you could if there is a conspiracy theory about that kid in Pennsylvania tried to kill Trump Oh Went to the ground gunner got him down Kevin's last four hours last five Went to the ground gunner got him down. He had a nice coster. Kevin's lost for his last five Kevin has a black belt, but not Gunnar Nelson black gunner Nelson so legit Yeah, if he can get you scrambled on the ground Kevin look at that look at that dude
Starting point is 01:46:16 Damn if he opens his legs, he's got to put on my pocket He's got to put a grip together around that arm right there. Just if he put a crime in our around the army. Oh Oh my god, he's hanging on that arm. That can't be put a crime in our around army oh oh my god he's hanging on that arm that can't be good for the shoulder it's over now he's not gonna be able to hold on all he had to do which is grip s grip under the armpit and that was I rap this is a tiring position though for gunner he's holding his entire body but it's time for Kevin to though his legs are gassing out here for sure yeah and now he's out Gunners weird one cuz he's not active. You know I'm saying like he doesn't fight a ton
Starting point is 01:46:46 One was lost his gym. Oh look at that another guy think Joe may it might be two, but maybe three see me That's better. He's getting in there. Yeah, Gunners not scared to get in there. No, he's not scared and eventually You gave Kevin Hall on his black belt Travis Luthor. Oh shit. Okay. Yeah, he's a Texas boy Fort Worth fight was two years ago two years ago exactly. How old is he now Gunner? It's gotta be okay. Yeah, he's a Texas boy. Fort Ryan fight was two years ago. Two years ago. Almost exactly. How old is he now? Gunner. He's gotta be 36.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Yeah. He was so good when he was at the top of his game. His Jiu Jitsu was off the charts. Yeah, considered one of the best Jiu Jitsu players. Beat Jeff Monson. Remember that? I forgot that one. Monson was fucking huge.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Yeah, MMA wise, he just never got over that hill like the top contenders. Well he's just not active enough. And his striking is just not the same level as the elite guys. Yeah. Although he does have a good style that's sort of karate. His style's cool. Robert Whitaker type style. I think he just got busy like he has his school it's like in the side of a fucking mountain. Is it? Yeah in Iceland. He's an interesting dude, man Yeah, super talented Remember he was part of Connors camp for a while there. That's right. Yeah. Oh shit can opener old school. I Have always liked Gunner Nelson
Starting point is 01:48:00 Yeah, this is big Thor told me rolled with Gunner I know he's rolled with you Gordon. Oh, yeah absolutely destroyed Yeah, you say you have Gunnar and he can understand it. He was like I understand Gorky so big He's like then I rolled with Gunnar Nelson. He fucked me up. Yeah, I watched a video of it the other day Oh really is a video of Gunnar. I mean Thor just has like he's like has no grappling zero zero. Who's Thor? The mountain oh the giant dude is like six nine. You know who's competing in jujitsu now is that guy Martins? No Martins Martins yeah, yeah Yeah, I did that one when I rolled with Thor he was also there I he like wrestled in high school, so he was like a little bit more with it better
Starting point is 01:48:40 But he like just like he's like been trained jujitsu and competed that's cool You just won his first tournament good for him. He's been a handful for magic Brian Shaw started getting a jujitsu I taught him a private when he came here. I was interesting That's like a that's a giant so yeah, that's like a little I made him drill big then Like I'm not touching either one of you That's a good way to get hurt Scrambled it's really good slippery got slippery has that x-factor. Oh nice. Need a body I was a nice knee by Kevin that hurt this pace and oh It's over six seconds to go. Oh, you got some you got some oh man. He's got some two one and
Starting point is 01:49:24 Go oh shit. He's got some two one and go oh Big haymaker at the end oh Let it go look at him. He's wobbly super fucked up. He's wobbly. They're not gonna stop it Oh, it's gonna start on the feet gunners in trouble. Yeah Yeah, he's good for Kevin. He needs a win man. He does it's been a while. He just like so often No one's more active than Kevin, but this is 170 fine What does yes in straight to lost four in his last five? I think he's lost three in a row the thing is like he's so much better at 70
Starting point is 01:49:55 I know he doesn't like the weight cut but so much better seven so tall and long and dangerous remember He beat homeboy, but who did the spinning back with yaki? I'm walking but yeah walking bushy to the welterweight He lost two in a row. Yeah, three out of four hums on who else all four out of five Oh Rene de Ritter is one out of five Yeah They're ready versus bow is gonna be interesting fuck. Yeah, it is bow better fucking wrestle, dude I'm gonna freak the fuck out. Yeah, but I was so impressed with what that guy did to Holland
Starting point is 01:50:23 I was like, that's impressive because he just already are hand them. Yeah, man. Handle. I'm good. Okay. Yeah, I chair with them already Yeah, yeah, yeah gonna looks are you still a little bit of trouble? Yeah already are was a two-division champion one championship Like he's no punk If Bo nickel gives us bad striking on my freak the fuck. Yeah, we go Seven times since Gunnar Nelson's last fight. That's crazy. Oh Fuck yeah, we know all about seven times since gunner Nelson's last fight. That's crazy. Oh Uppercut you got him with that uppercut. He also had a good grappling. Oh nasty punches to the body behind He also went against Kate in one championship. It's just straight grappling if gunner can't take it. Yeah I think yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah submitted. I think
Starting point is 01:51:02 Trouble I didn't see that one yeah Gunner is not able to take Kevin down this round take him down here is in trouble and see that one. Yeah Gunner is not able to take Kevin down this round. He's gonna be in trouble And also you got to think Kevin Hollins hungry right now No, cuz he still wants to be a champion Yeah, that's tough. That's 70 though. He could do it. He could do it at 70. He's just got to be super focused and stay at 70. This hopping up and down and you know, getting losses at 85 against the ridders like 220. He's also being that active. It's tough to compete with the biggest guys that it's just tough to
Starting point is 01:51:39 be that active. Right. And be a top guy. He fought comm out at 85. Mm-hmm. Yeah, man Three hour notice. Yeah, man. That was when Nate Diaz and him were supposed to fight Yeah, but a hums are came in eight pounds heavy and Kevin Hollins stepped up and said I'll take it and homes I just fucking Kevin was supposed to fight D-rod remember. Yep Which is a great fight gunners trying real hard for this take down, man. Burning off a lot of fuel. Almost has it. Almost has it.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Almost has it. Oh, good D. If he would have kept stepping inside, he would have done it. If he cut a circle a little bit better. He's gotta be fatigued right now. You know, two plus minutes into the second and got beat up at the end of the first,
Starting point is 01:52:22 which takes a lot out of you. That's a- He almost had his hands lost. Such a big factor. You know you think about perceived skills. Oh come on Gunner. You think about perceived skills versus current level after a guy gets rocked. You know you think he's still the same guy that he was early in the fight but he got rocked man.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Oh bro you're out of it. Yeah. Well look at Makachev and Olivera. Mm-hmm. Like he clipped him and then like immediately passed his guard and finished him. Yep. Yep. Or even Ankalayev and Pereira.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Second round he gets rocked and then he's kind of not the same after that. Trigger shy. Much more defensive after that. Forgot the game plan a little bit. Kept him back to the cage, bro I saw a good breakdown of onkala. I have stand-up against Pereira. It was very high level super impressive Especially taking away the front hand Circulate he's doing this circular motion with his hand and taking away angles
Starting point is 01:53:18 Apparently the run that rematch back. Oh, we got him down almost They're gonna run it back. I'm sure you have to have to that's the big fight in that division. And if Pereira can come in healthy, he's got him down. But he's another one. He's too active to active. But he's smart, too, because he's 3637. He's like, I'm gonna go man, I'm gonna make as much money as possible. He's done that he's made becoming all time great in you know, three years, which is crazy. You give a ten eight first round Gotta be ten eight right. That's hard to say because Gunnar had him down for a while. Yeah You know I mean judges like that. I'm in a home a plot. He did rock him at the end Yeah, I count those and unfortunately they don't count like a but near submissions. I think near submissions are big I'm with you close. It should close, it should be 10-8. Like Olivera versus Armand Sarukian. I feel like Olivera almost had him a couple times. Really? Yes. And what? He had him. What did he have? A Darce and was it- Darce, Guillotine, Guillotine. If it's cinched up, if you have something
Starting point is 01:54:17 cinched up and it looks- That's a lot. You know? Even a triangle. Yes. That's so close. That fight should have been five rounds. That's five rounds. Charles probably wins that but yeah, I think so, too Maybe I mean who knows but he would have a better chance But if you count like near submissions as like much more point get no credit You don't get credit like you do if you rock a guy But it is it's it's you're close to finishing a fight But did it to that same point like with Alexre defending 12 takedowns 12 for 12
Starting point is 01:54:45 You get no fucking credit right guy attempted 12 takedowns You couldn't do it that guy gets no who should get credit the guy defend the takedown No, you don't get credit you get credit for like not getting hit Well, you get a little bit a little bit a little bit I don't think you should get credit for defense. The big credit is the submission attempts Yeah, but often we'll get was often not defense. He's going to it again Can you imagine you get points for escaping an arm bar like that would be retarded happy dope? See, this is interesting right because Kevin was doing a lot of damage at the end of the first
Starting point is 01:55:20 But a lot of it was on the back. And then here you got Gunner, takes him down after unsuccessfully taking him down for like three minutes. And he's doing something. He's on top. Oh, he won this round for sure. Right, but nothing's happening. Did he win it really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:36 You got a take down? Yeah, that wins the round. But you know what I'm saying? Like, nothing's happening. He's not getting any damage. Kevin didn't do anything. True. Yeah, so in that situation, nothing happened. He took him down took you give it to gunner for sure. Yeah, but it's not as good as
Starting point is 01:55:50 like a guy rocking you. I know. Right. Exactly. There's a difference. I think the whole score system is fucked. It's both those rounds are not 10 nines. The second round is a 10 nine first round. How is that a 10 nine? He almost knocked him out. He should barely survive. They should be able to stop right at the end he got saved by the bell like boxing right when a guy gets dropped it's automatically a 10-8 yes yeah I think that's a good move yeah when a guy gets dropped but then you got you know fights like where a guy gets dropped and gets up and drops the other guy like you know it evens out yeah I guess I think even rounds are okay I think they need more more comprehensive scoring system yes I think the whole 10-9 is crazy because we just took it from boxing and we're like
Starting point is 01:56:32 okay that's a established point system for fighting but you're using it with something that has all these different elements takedown submission octagon control there's so many more factors and then you gotta look at the people scoring it these judges half of them don't know what the fuck they're looking at That's a good fight Moreno and ursic that ursic guy almost beat panto. That's us We we're doing EBI in Mexico City the next day. Oh, that's Saturday next day EBI 23 the feather weights with strikes. We're bringing back strikes in EBI. Ooh, hell yeah strikes or there's enough To combat jiu-jitsu so slaps. Yeah You could punch it was born in EBI. Can you punch the body?
Starting point is 01:57:12 You could punch to the you could strike to the body just you could strike anywhere punch not punch Yeah, yeah, that's next Sunday guys UFC fight practicing their strikes. Are they like working on that? Oh Jesus They should Kevin's so dangerous the clay he's hitting him with a hard body shots man the clay. Oh elbow over the top. Oh knee good Kevin's got to go for broke because he probably won the first round. I think he won the first round for sure second round no So this is it and Kevin needs to win. He's landing some uppercuts. Oh Gunners in deep Gunners in deep Oh, he's out of it
Starting point is 01:57:57 His hands locked anymore on the buddy String oh we got him. He's just trying to get out. Okay. You got him full mountain out full mount. Oh shit here It is Kevin's in trouble Gonna announce him full mount third third round grapevine in the legs He rushed in the back taking the first round though. He should take his time from here. Yep I mean he's got time take his feet off the fact that he's not was feet off the cage the fact that he's not digging For underhooks right now. It's scary. Well, he should have took his feet off the cage. Like, why won't you immediately go for the underhook? What was your plan in the mount?
Starting point is 01:58:30 Underhooks, and at least take his feet off the cage. That's what got him out. You're not supposed to dig your toes in the fake cage. Gordon, if you were in the mount right there, you would immediately grab the underhook and underjack to an arm triangle, right? Yeah, underhook. Well, the first an arm triangle, right? Yeah underhook underhook Well, the first thing is to circle his feet off the cage because that gives him you're saying circle him to the center of the octagon Yes, because the bridge off the cage just gives you a men's correct totally but but besides that that and underhook that and under
Starting point is 01:58:57 Jack arm triangle. Yeah, right. Oh Damn look at that. He's gonna come out good. He should really talk ray out from the bottom. Yep from garden How about Hanzo on Oleg talk talk? Oh, yeah Upkicked that was the first time we saw like an effective upkick. Yeah, and then Jerry Bolander on He's gonna pass him here. No, I know Monta or Fabio Giorgio passing him. He's got the back. He's got one hook. I Think there's probably like 10. Oh, there it is triangle there. It is Kevin's left hip he's gonna mount him just
Starting point is 01:59:39 Not enough pressure Within half card from half guard it depends if he has a good lockdown or not if he had a good lockdown He would survive, but he just got a why he's not passing the guard here. I'm not sure It's also hard for him to dismount from here because the cage is in the way He's got even if he does there comes the mount here it comes okay, so now he's gonna try to either mount him or slice I control, but he's kind of like he's kind of wedged in place by the cage You should be there it is here. It comes here. here comes. He's probably just he probably knows what's up. He's just waiting to
Starting point is 02:00:13 Catches his breath. Oh should not take the back Nice by Kevin that was really nice Gunner should have switched back to a tight waist when Kevin went to roll out She'd break free here. She break free here and start teeing off on him Got her held on to the trying arm triangle too long He should have mounted in my in my opinion night like all arm triangles in my opinion should be in the mount once you start Going side control. There's too many escapes that scapes are too easy Well, you should have at least set it better for mount like it wasn't set like you should have mounted him The escapes are too easy. Well, you should have at least set it better for mount.
Starting point is 02:00:43 Like it wasn't set. Like you should have mounted him. Oh, shit. Big knee. Kevin's gonna come at him hard here. Yeah, he is. He's got to. She can't get taken down.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Oh, shit. Another knee. Damn, this is gonna be a hard one to score. Super hard to score. Don't try and go for a darse. It looks like it. It looked like you thought about it Yeah, he's looking for it for sure
Starting point is 02:01:10 Disengage Kevin I know right especially now. I guess double under his hands locked And he had times to disengage and he's got an advantage in the striking. Huge advantage, but also like so exhausted at this point in the fight. Yeah. We probably turn an arrest total strikes, Kevin, 130 gunner 20 gunner's going to win it. You think less Unless Kevin catches him, three seconds to go. So 10-9, 10-9 Gunner, but then 10-8 in the first round, what is that, a draw? You do 10-9, Holland, first round. There's gonna be a draw.
Starting point is 02:01:57 10-9. If they gave him 10-8 for the first round. The guy was saved by the bell, how do you not give him a 10-8? No, I agree. But it doesn't mean that the judges agree the judges are goofy Judges are goofy and all depends it depends. I don't think they had a ten eights enough Do they still have Adlai bird? Does she still work? I don't know. It's good question. She was awesome. She was the best That's a good question. What is this movie?
Starting point is 02:02:25 For what movie? This is a truck? Women in the yard? No, it's a movie. Only in theaters Friday. Oh you're looking at something different? Yeah, I was gonna say you're on Delay. That's a truck commercial? Oh, are you looking at like ESPN plus's different commercials that a new rapper coming out? Oh weird. Oh how weird. Yeah, I have a different commercial right now too. Oh, how weird. I have like a- So there's different commercials
Starting point is 02:02:49 depending upon where you look? Yeah, it's weird. It's both my accounts too, so. Yeah, I have a hiring zip recruiter ad. So I think Jan's next. Yes. Jan Olberg next. firing super crude red well so I think yawns next yeah yawn old Burke next so what's the guess oh man give us some volume Jamie I think gunner takes yeah Gordon has good point with all the control gutter had with
Starting point is 02:03:18 these judges draw yeah draw no I think could be a draw Either to draw or gonna tell it Kevin here we go wins gunner split It's gonna Good for Kevin man Good for Kevin man They gave him that third round yeah damage He did all the damage even though gunner had control of him. He did a damn done it He didn't arm triangle. Yeah, and he did take him down Yeah, but Kevin definitely did more damage to him. I'll set his back a couple times. Yeah true true I think it should have been a draw. It could have been a draw
Starting point is 02:04:04 I mean Kevin looks surprised when they announced them. Yes. Yeah Yeah, good for Kevin he needs it Yeah, he's saying I knew it could go either way Kevin at 170 that's that's his spot. Yeah, that's his spot. He's beat some good guys. He's got legit championship potential. How about a rematch with him and Joaquin Buckley at 170? That would be crazy. Is Joaquin Buckley the guy that did that crazy kick?
Starting point is 02:04:34 Yeah, bro, he's a monster at 170. No problem. At 170, he's a monster. He beat the shit out of Colby. He's so motivated, too. Colby Colvington? Yeah. Kevin Holland? No, Colby Colvington. Yeah, Kevin Holland No, no, no, that's what by McKean. Oh, what can Buckley forgot about that?
Starting point is 02:04:51 Fine. Well, how did that go down knockout? You just beat the shit out of him stop the fight defend the takedown just beat the show He beat the shit out of him. He's a fight. Yeah one seven. He's a monster Colby Colmentin. Yeah, stop the fight Yeah, recently or early in his career. Yes fewby Colmenton. Yeah, stop the fight. Yeah, we see me Oh early in his career asked you three months ago. Damn. I missed that last fight Joaquin's a real problem at 170. He's super motivated Amazing genetics super explosive and fast but like very disciplined gets better every fight crazy cardio at 170 So once being that muscle bound that muscle bound but
Starting point is 02:05:25 it's his work ethic man he's got crazy work ethic you know and you see that video he made for balala no it's like he was like explaining like you got what I want like is this whole thing talking about his life what he needs to take care of his grandmother like it was like intense yeah he's like I'm coming for you boy it's intense yeah that's he's a real threat at 170 big time. But I would love to see that she coming back. No, she's done. She got boobies now. Yeah, that's the man. Remember when he fought Ryan Hall, no one knew who he was. Oh yeah. You know, he smashed him. Duck. Yeah, I would say what would you say Gordon, like 80%, 85% of UFC fighters aren't ready for
Starting point is 02:06:11 the high, high level leg locks, right? That's a, Brian Hall came in and he would just leg lock dudes. Yeah. We're not quite ready. Cause MMA fighters aren't really training. They're not focused on it. They're not focused on Jiu Jitsu. Even at the high level.
Starting point is 02:06:26 But then, but let's see, and Ryan Hall was, he ripped through some people with leg locks. But then BJ. Yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah. But then he hits Topperia. How do you say that? Topperia.
Starting point is 02:06:36 That was the first guy like, oh shit, this guy knows how to defend. Who is he? Who's his coach? He's got a. I'm not sure. His famous guy. Ilya? Yes.
Starting point is 02:06:48 He was working with someone legit. Maybe it was like Balance Studios or something. I don't know, but that was... Sometimes you're going to run into guys that you cannot leg lock and when it's all greasy... But also you get to a certain level where guys can stop your game at lug lots And if you don't have striking you get exposed. That's why I really doesn't find a lot. He was well versed in Poria, how do you say to get to poor to poor? Ryan all kind of like nine surgeries. Yeah over the lat like maybe more didn't yeah, Josh
Starting point is 02:07:21 Waits in 23 is where I looked up. That's not he's not that active I know he's turned down a lot of matchups to what is he getting surgery on that's 23 He's still fighting problems Ryan Hall still under contract, but I know he's turned down a bunch of fights. Yeah 19 under good for him style. I like he know general anesthesia She's put out 19 times that can't be good for you. You got put put to sleep 19 times 19 general anesthesia surgery some procedures need to be redone due to complications Jesus Christ. Holy fuck man What what is what is his injuries?
Starting point is 02:07:57 21 general anesthesia surgery since that fight that not sorry 19. They were two prior that's crazy What happened to him? I don't know. They kept having issues. So at 21, general anesthesia surgery, I got fallen on, tore my ACL, had to fix a planter plate, got fallen on again, had to have a tightrope surgery on that one that Pat Mahone's and a couple other people have had. ACL got infected out of a couple of septic arthritis. Tightrope was actually allergic to the hardware they put in me somewhere, somehow.
Starting point is 02:08:30 Had to have that redone. It's been interesting, but back on the end of it. On the back end of it, rather. Wow. That's crazy. Boy. Wow. I had no idea.
Starting point is 02:08:42 That's so many surgeries. I thought he retired That's crazy. How many surgeries have you had? One just one. Yeah my LCL. Yeah, I've been injured a lot, but just one surgery. Yeah, was that from a leg lock? Any commons? No Eddie broke my ankles bunch of times, but uh, I was when I competed against you out Rocha I was going for a leg lock injury and he was like 270 That's right jump towards my head. What happened Eddie dude? I don't know He just like disappeared one day and then apparently he was like training like pretty recently at Enzo's and unity
Starting point is 02:09:15 But I just like stopped training jiu-jitsu forever got a real job I think and then that guy was vicious, so good. I was I was Standing over him as you rip through everybody with leg locks my god damn He was on he was on some other shit. You know what I mean? He was vicious and then you hear from His training partners that man he he went hard right in the training room. He went after legs. They get they dig it hard. Yeah Hard right in the training room. He went after legs. They get hard. Yeah It's weird when guys would get that good and just stop When after he retired he still put out a couple like videos a little short instructionals on Instagram and
Starting point is 02:10:04 This one he put out for the z-lock that to me is the best like in my opinion the z lock the one he showed that's the best It's not a sad story if you want to do something cool. They just want to do it's kind of dope They's like fuck it. I'm over it if he went on to make money. He's doing well. You know yeah Depends what he's doing. What do you think is the best leg lock one leg lock? You're gonna teach your students just one leg lock entry and one Heel hook what's it gonna be? leg lock entry and one heel hook what's it gonna be well in so far as breaking mechanics or no like they say they got the breaking mechanics down and just which where's or your the legs gonna be which leg entanglement are you gonna choose which one's the best obviously it's not DOA it's not outside ashi and
Starting point is 02:10:42 not just regular ashi either that one's basic backside 50-50 is pretty good right when you go go because I hear from backside 50-50 coming in from K guard right yeah I hear like from my guys I'm not like the biggest leg locker but I pay attention to my guys and they're saying that the entry into backside 50-50 is awesome but you don't really generally get the tap there. There's going to be some kind of scramble and some kind of spin. You can but the guy can high leg over.
Starting point is 02:11:12 If you trap the far leg, the secondary leg, then you can get finishes belly down with it which is why it's a good position but a good guy is always going to limp leg and strip the grip which is why I believe that probably the best position in terms of not having a guy come forward and crush you or hit you and strong catastrophic breaking mechanics is probably cross-ashigurami, your guys' honey hole. So that's still the best. Double trouble. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:40 So you feed the one leg across, the legs are split, so you have an Achilles lock here and then you dig for the heel and then you go in and lock up. It's still the best. Okay, but my highest percentage finish is That position but with the leg fit on the outside for the outside heel hook. That's like z lock ish, right? Yeah, kind of yeah, because z lock is basically double travel with the outside heel hook correct and and instead of Triangling your legs, stomping on the inside. Yeah, you can go foot to foot. Is that what you guys call it? Foot to foot? Yeah. That's huge. That's like game changer right there. And that right there, just the straight ankle lock is the most powerful straight
Starting point is 02:12:16 ankle lock from that position right there with it on the outside. Yeah, strong. Oh no, the secondary leg. Yeah. That straight ankle lock. And the Aoki. Yeah, yeah, Aoki's strong as well. How crazy are Aoki's straight ankle lock and the aoki. Yeah, he's strong as well How crazy are a okies a okies are a lot like dead orchards where in the first time I seen a aoki It's from Shinya Aoki. It seemed like he was going for just a straight ankle lock, but dude I forget his opponent was but his foot almost slipped out So it was a straight it looked like a straight ankle lock that he almost pulled his foot out But it got caught and twisted. And it gives you the rotation.
Starting point is 02:12:46 Yeah, and everyone thought, maybe not everyone, but I thought, oh, that's one of those freak things that you don't actually plan for it or set up for it. It just happens. Sometimes they pull out of ankle locks. Sometimes like an omoplata, sometimes when they try to pull out their omoplata, it gets caught and they tap an arm bar
Starting point is 02:13:05 It's not like you set it up. It's like a freak thing They try to get out, but it got caught and then they tap so that's what I thought the aoki was but it turns out Fuck no, that's it seems like the aoki is top two leg lock finishes in the grappling world today It's just people get because it's so good to counter with them, correct? Yeah, no, you get good finishes with Iokis. What's an Ioki? It's an ankle lock, but when they slip their heel out, it's still like,
Starting point is 02:13:33 it's like you're going for an ankle lock and they almost pull out their leg, and then it turns into a heel hook. So it's half ankle lock, half heel hook. Huge, it's like the most powerful shit right now. It's not mechanically as strong as a heel hook though, because when you go for heel hooks, you're physically bridging your hip into the knee. Yeah, where's with Ioke's the knee is turned out
Starting point is 02:13:48 So you're bridging you're not bridging into the knee in a way to break it Yeah, whereas what's like an inverted heel hook? For example, you have a good strong connection You have a good strong connection, but when you go to bridge you see like you see how You say he's not bridging into the hip. Yeah. So with a heel hook you're bridging directly into the hip so it's the full extension of your body into the knee so the upper leg is pinned through the leg position and then your
Starting point is 02:14:15 dripping position is what's manipulating the foot. And scroll down a little bit Jamie and look at the guy on the that one on the right the one you had the big one on the right that now we can't see it on the right, that one right there, can you blow that up? And the dude doing the Aoki lock, his right leg the way, I think people are calling that a shadow hook or whatever, Silverado, he's a catch wrestler, Brazilian catch wrestler, showed me that when I was a white belt. I remember Silverado. Remember, he used to do that.
Starting point is 02:14:42 He used to do that. And I thought like ah this I this is nothing so I always I never really fucked with it but now it's back strong like Helena Crevara is doing this exact thing this is like her main move Silverado had a lot of Jean LeBel stuff yeah it was a catch wrestling thing a lot of that this is a great position because uh like with the guy who's attacking his right leg, usually the guy's trying to peel it off the hip. So when you peel it off the hip, that butterfly hook comes in and then normally you would
Starting point is 02:15:12 throw that left leg over so now you can't step over the, you can't disengage the legs as easy. And dude putting his right leg there, if he put it, traditionally you'd put it on the hip, you could get countered with a A-h aoki yeah so that's huge like a regular ashi everyone's like I got guys that just let dudes put them in ashi so they could take that foot and and it's a whole it's a game changer and also because the right foot is on the inside position it makes it hard for the guy in defense the the defensive guy yeah to push forward into you yeah it's hard for him to come
Starting point is 02:15:44 forward because the aoki you have to push into the lock Yeah, put your foot deeper to boot it But the butterfly hook stops it the butterfly actually stops you from pushing the foot in deeper. Yeah, the guy who There was I don't know. I think the first guy to really really master it was the Polish guy so we're What's his name he found he's he he arm barar Gary Tonan that guy? What's his name? Matias? Shazinski yeah, but Shazinski that guy yeah, everyone talks about him I've never trained with him, but apparently he was like he was the one that he just been breaking everybody exactly So we're cut and he was doing his legs just like that you know it was a okie with that leg entanglement We were calling it the Polish a okie. Yeah, you know and he was doing his legs just like that, you know, it was a okie with that leg entanglement
Starting point is 02:16:25 We were calling it the polish a okie, you know, and uh, he's a bad motherfucker Well, it's difficult because the butterfly hook doesn't allow you to stack He doesn't allow you to come forward and push your foot deeper I'd never forget silverado showing me that as a white belt and i'm thinking really Ken shamrock puts his leg up here. Why would you do that? Ken Shamrock puts his leg up here. Why would you do that? I was like learning shit off Ken Shamrock. I got into toeholds as a white belt because Ken Shamrock had this instructional where
Starting point is 02:16:52 he's in jeans and no shirt. He's all tanned and yoke. He looked like a Chippendales guy and he's with some Japanese guy and he's going over toeholds like standing over a guy's guard and grabbing the foot and doing a toehold I'm like, whoa, what is he doing with the foot and I can never get on top of anybody I was always I pulled I've taken down one person my whole life and that was in wrestling. I had one wrestling take I had one rest. I'd wrestled two years got one takedown because I was afraid to break my teeth Everyone's missing teeth.
Starting point is 02:17:25 I didn't want to shoot. I go, you shoot and I'll sprawl. I'm like, you shoot, I'll sprawl. I got a good front headlock now. I got a good front headlock. But I had zero takedowns. Unless it's a dude that doesn't wrestle. I got in a couple street fights here.
Starting point is 02:17:39 I was always a pussy growing up. I was never a tough guy. But every now and then, I wrestled. And I never looked at wrestling as martial art. I looked at his pussy fighting. I go, dude, I was never a tough guy but every now and then you know I wrestled and I never looked at wrestling as a martial art. I looked at his pussy fighting. I go dude I'm not a fighter no one thinks I'm a fighter. I don't have a reputation to uphold but if anybody fucks with me I'm gonna double like him and just hold him until the principal breaks us up. You know what I mean? I was like dude I was grounded and pounding in ninth grade. I would take dudes out. I
Starting point is 02:18:02 fought this one soccer player his name was Cesar. He was talking a lot of shit and I go dude he'll probably kick my ass but he can't stop my takedown because this dude don't wrestle so I take him down and I would just like get side control and like barely punch his stomach and wait for someone to pull me off I survived and then when I saw hoist fighting UFC 2 I'm like you could fight on the ground and not be a pussy. That's why I joined you just I'm like, oh my god This is my shit. I thought fighting on the ground was pussy fighting like it's it's accepted and respected and it's okay That's that's what got me into jujitsu Change again. Here we go. Oh, boy. We go Oh Berg Yon Boho, bitch. I'm gonna did with I scheduled this
Starting point is 02:18:42 I thought it was gonna be at 1 and and I gotta get out of here like in 10 minutes Oh, no worries. Let's see what happens in 10 minutes. My flight got pushed Eddie. It's at 8 now Oh, they got pushed. I got mine is at 7 so I go make sure it's on time though Bahobos is 42, but it's a polish 42. That's different genetics, bro That's is that older school fight. So but it's a Polish 42. That's different genetics, bro. That's some old school Viking genetics. So if you're a Polish 42, are you older or are you younger?
Starting point is 02:19:11 What do you say? Younger, I don't know. Those shoulders are maybe a bit of 42. Yeah, well we'll see. We'll see. Like, look what happened with Yuri. Yuri got his shoulders fixed. No problem at all.
Starting point is 02:19:20 That's true, he looked great. He looked amazing. But then Johnny Walker. Johnny Walker shoulders fixed. Yeah, but that's a lot of damage to Johnny Walker's been KO'd so many times It's also just such a big jump up in talent for all hard It is he beat ozdemir but before I really haven't fought anybody. Well, this is a world champion on yeah Find a world champion and a guy who years Who's real determined to get back to the belt?
Starting point is 02:19:47 You got to realize like he had to a draw with on Koli of almost won the title there Real close to beating Pereira real close fight beat is he you know, he's still a monster Even though he's 42 savage and it he wins this well, he's right there hard low kick by yawn He's right there for the title shot Yes, well, he's always the guy that people forget about in this division one big win over Olberg He's right back in the hunt and he would be a logical guy to fight next After either live in prayer. There was a story. Yeah, one. Yeah, both of them and Clive majorly because there's a draw. Yeah He's fucking dangerous, too
Starting point is 02:20:26 I mean that power is the last thing to go and yawns got ridiculous power remember that rock-hold KO like jeez That was like a murder bro. He's a how about the fucking dominant ray is one He like rap to him after he was already down like with a running start Yeah, and then second punch you remember when he kicked up Dominic Reyes in the body You see his whole foot on Reyes his body He's such a hard dude. Oh Solid jab well, we're definitely has a speed advantage. Mm-hmm He does but but hovich has a massive experience advantage and a massive check that in with a hard low kick, too
Starting point is 02:21:02 He has that rottweiler head. Mm-hmm And check that in with a hard low kick to he is that rottweiler head. Mm-hmm Remember when you went shin to shin with uncle I have just walked his legs up. He's like, let's see He's got the harder shins, but what? Him and and Clive are just tough fucking humans, man There's so many tough guys in this division. I mean Yuri would be the champion if it wasn't for Alex There's so many good guys that Yuri fight with Jamal Hill was crazy. Rackets, no punk either. Oh, no. But, you know, Yuri KO'd him and yeah, Uncle I have beat him in a decision
Starting point is 02:21:34 in his last fight. Yon looks good, though. He doesn't look like he's 42. He looks like a legit contender. It's just so much experience, you know, and he's so good at pacing himself and staying calm. Remember it's only three rounds too. That's true, but that Olberg's first fight was three rounds as well. You know, the Kennedy fight. Yep. I mean, this is a big step up, man. Big step up. Oh, I kick. Oh, they announced round tree and hill.
Starting point is 02:22:20 Oh, when's that? I'm not sure soon. Oh, that's exciting. That's a great fight. That is a great fight He just went shindish in with old Burke. I Bought that Jeep yesterday and the lady goes. Oh my cousin fights in the UFC and usually I'm like, oh really? I'm like, who's your cousin? She's all Hill Jamal Hill. Oh fuck. Yeah, badass girl April 26th Kansas City. Oh shit. I can't see the cars tasty. Mmm. Yeah, that's a good fight night finally. Ooh Yon's winning the battle of low kicks. He's checking old burgs
Starting point is 02:22:59 Over is not landing is he? No He's landed a few now, but there's a good one shin to shin Nothing's taster in that Miami card coming up though. Oh that Miami car is good. That's a fucking true. That's good Yeah, here in pitbull. Oh, I swear to God if I have problems with the S10 plus I'm gonna lose my shit and John Silva versus Bryce not pit bull from Bellatrix C now oh Rodriguez on the main card they bumped up the main card. Well, they don't have a picture of them. That's outrageous Get a picture the Bellator wouldn't send it. That's crazy
Starting point is 02:23:33 I was like, no haven't pulled pictures haven't posed for a picture. Take a selfie on your fucking cell phone Oh fuck take your shirt off. Yeah, have your girl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll black out the background. Oh Yeah, have your girl. Yeah. Yeah. We'll black out the background. Oh Good job by Oh Berg, I got a dog. You're out Gordon great hanging. Yes, sir. Thank you Just some play tomorrow Eddie, I'll be there too You see a brother Your son play tomorrow Eddie? Yep, I'll be there too. I'll see you man. See ya brother. I love when I run to Eddie at the baseball fields because he's a vet. Like my kids only nine so we've been doing it two years but he's been in it for a
Starting point is 02:24:12 thick, he has everything backpack, water, just the whole tent, the seat. He loves being a dad. Yeah we always run each other at the baseball fields. It's awesome to see Yeah, my kiddos met him for the first time like two weeks ago, oh that's great. Yeah, I was like that's uncle Eddie like uncle Fucks uncle Eddie right there This is boring boring ass commercial. So brutal. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:24:49 You see, Bareknuckle Fighting is going to have hockey fights. They're going to have fights with skates on. I see. Bareknuckle Boxing with hockey skates on. I don't know. Gimmick. There's some weird shit. That's a gimmick.
Starting point is 02:25:01 They have Card Jiu Jitsu now. Yeah, I've seen that in Russia. Bro, you know they offered me and Brian to fight each other in car jujitsu Brian Cowan. Yeah, why would they do that to Brian? They offered they're like they're like yeah, they go with they didn't pitch me they pitch Brian they go It'd be really fun for you and Brendan do car jujitsu man goes Like seriously and the guy goes yeah, would you guys be down to it Brian's like no? Fucking And the guy goes yeah, would you guys be down to it Brian's like no Fucking chop and cart you're a Black belt it's so ridiculous you do new the seat belt. That's so ridiculous. Yeah, it would be funny
Starting point is 02:25:35 You'd be talking shit. Yeah, well you tie him up. Yeah be funny. Oh here we go round two That first round is hard to score, huh? Yeah, I give to yawn. I think it's a yawn Yawn look like you got the best of it Whoo swing and a mess. How's that shoulder? We'll get a better round from old Berg here because you know, it's new to him. He's fighting a van this level. He looks good He's a fast motherfucker that takedown faint really got a reaction yeah great faint but he's not
Starting point is 02:26:14 really a wrestler fuck no Oh yon's looking for bombs. Those leg kicks are going to be a problem if he doesn't start checking them. God, I remember when Yan fought Izzy. What a nightmare matchup. Yeah, just too big. But Izzy also tried to do 205 with no weight gain he just tried to like weigh with you cut less if they would have gave like I mean grant you want to fight for the title if they would have gave him
Starting point is 02:26:57 like Yuri or someone that'd be a funner matchup oh that'd be great here he is he's fun yeah that's dangerous wait young. Well, y'all want it 240 Yuri looks so good in the Jamal Hill fight. Yeah, he's turned a corner. He's a different guy. He's one of my favorites Oh one of my favorites for sure Guaranteed fireworks and that guy oh, oh he landed that right hand Guaranteed fireworks when when Yuri fights non-stop action just such a fucking warrior Guaranteed fireworks when when Yuri fights non-stop action just such a fucking warrior And so like dedicated to the way, you know, he's an interesting cat
Starting point is 02:27:33 thin for light heavy Oh big shots there Yon starting to land now That ooh body's legit Interesting all Berg favored. That's interesting. That was right off the feint too. He feinted the take down right to the collar. Right to the tie clinch. Here's a little lighter on his feet this round. He's hitting the legs a lot too.
Starting point is 02:28:04 In this round for sure. That inside low kick. Just slapping though. It's like, Yon's light kicks, it's fucking doing damage. It's thudding. But he scored. Like that one right there. That was painful.
Starting point is 02:28:15 See how he's changing his position? Yeah, that was painful. Yeah. That was a hard one. Well, Yon, you know, had a Muay Thai career before MMA. He's a legit Muay Thai fighter. Slightly lighter. He was like fighting at 200, I think.
Starting point is 02:28:36 Did you look into Anklia's background? I'm a fucker's never lost in anything. Well, he lost to Paul Craig. It's true. I'm saying before you get to UFC, you look at his back. It's like Jesus. And even that fight, he was to Paul Craig. It's true. I'm saying before you get the UFC you look at his back It's like Jesus and even that fight he was winning that fight He just slept on the triangle and got wrapped up with like I think it was like two seconds to go or something crazy like that One second to go that's not real. That's so brutal because you know he can hang in for one second. Yeah Especially if you hear the even if you go to sleep the if you hear the claps for 10 seconds
Starting point is 02:29:05 Yeah, it's like just pass out of that point Yeah, it must have been tight right it out. Yeah, it's like Chael and Anderson like what the fuck are you doing? Dominating for four rounds. I know that's the crazy. That's why that's your self-sabotage And that's just Anderson coming in with a broken rib mm-hmm Sabotage and that's this Anderson coming in with a broken rib. Mm-hmm Olberg definitely seems like he's landing more this round But the damaging shots are bohovich. They scored damage number one But you know, but Olberg is scoring more like those jabs right there
Starting point is 02:29:47 Yon's just having a hard time closing the distance. And this is only round two. Damn, it's been, besides that girl fight against Molly, it's been all decisions again. Well, Molly retired too, I forgot. Did she? That makes sense. Yeah. There's a certain like skill gap you can't you can't bridge You know enough hours on the day. Yeah, not enough hours a day not enough time in your life. You're older. You're in your late 30s
Starting point is 02:30:12 Yeah, I Don't know how old she is, but she's in her 30s for sure It's like some of them they just get to a point Jalen Turner was crazy because he said when he beat up Bobby green like like after that, he lost his appetite for fighting. That was that one with a real late stoppage. That was in Austin. That was bad. That was a bad one.
Starting point is 02:30:30 You say you knew then, right? It's kind of over. He's just like, I don't want to hurt anybody anymore. I don't want to do that. I get it. I mean, he liked Bobby Green too. They were friends. I get it.
Starting point is 02:30:39 So they like to put it on your friend like that. And then all the unnecessary punches, the referee should stop that fight quite a bit. That was where he was already out, right? Yeah, he was just getting tagged. I don't remember who ref that fight, but that was that was a bad one Yeah, he's like he's a belly down right? Uh-huh getting fucking just hammered just smashed Yeah, Bobby hasn't won a fight since he changed his name to King. So he's like fuck that call me Bobby No, he's going back to Bobby. Is he yeah for real when really want to fight some guys, but he's like, it's I'm changing back to Bobby. That's Oh and three since she's team to King that that wheel kick. Oh my goodness Mauricio Rufi Like a giant Connor, you know, it really is moves like Connor
Starting point is 02:31:21 He's got that kind of style but and that style, like cardio-wise, like getting the third round, you're so explosive, you just can't run at that high gear for three rounds. Exactly. It's so fast twitch-based. It's not a good style for longevity unless you're real sparing with your attacks and you have to have complete control. So if a guy mauls you and just comes at you with a lot of combinations and hits you with a pace, it's hard.
Starting point is 02:31:44 Yeah, you're kind of fucked. Yeah, they catch up. You get a grappler can avoid the big shot. Mm-hmm. Then the third round you're fucked And obviously that weight class is filled with talent. There's so much talent there. I was just guessing guy I won't say who it is. He's coming back to the UFC and his buddies like He's like man. What matchup do you think? He's like, we just need to get him an easy matchup for his first one I'm like buddy. It's 2025 in the UFC. There's no cakewalks. Yeah, there's no. There used to be cakewalks.
Starting point is 02:32:10 There was guys like, thank God they gave me him. There's really not that with the contender series like this. It's just full of these young fucking lions. Yeah, the guys that zero fights in the UFC are super fucking dangerous. That's what's crazy. Zero fights and they come in at a world-class level and they're like well-rounded everything actually these motherfuckers from Russia yeah there's so many Dagestan guys that are coming in and like good lord they're so dangerous there's no gimme fights
Starting point is 02:32:37 anymore no Olberg seems to be out pointing him here. A little more active. Yeah, like right there. Definitely still speed advantage. And Jan hasn't landed any big shots to the head, like the big one that's going to really change the course of the fight. No, he looks a little slower. But he's just dealing with a very tall, fast dude. It's going to get weird for Jan. He loses this one, you're off two years.
Starting point is 02:33:04 The division and the state it's's in it's tough, man Well, we'll see there's still three minutes fucking crazy is MMA it's like Alka Volkovsky Before he lost those two. He was like there's arguing. He's the pound-for-pound number one Mm-hmm, he was on the like number two and then three months later. He's not even on the list. Yep, yeah Edwards Yep, before he lost below was I think number five pound-for-pound. He's's not even on the list. Yep, yeah Edwards Yep before he lost below was I think number five pound for pound. He's not not even on the list crazy This one you're kind of fucked MMA is wild man. Yeah, I'm with another good strong low kick But he needs more than that. It needs some headshots. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 02:33:39 He needs to get the judges attention. I Wonder what the live odds are right now old bird for sure gotta be over right? Just from a volume perspective yeah, just active He looks like he's gonna spin that's close. He's a heavily bladed Good left hook right hand Bruce starting gonna sit down on sponges now Is it interesting? But yeah 160 but still Olberks favorite It's just Yon is having a hard time connecting
Starting point is 02:34:24 And over is not an issue. He's not slowing down over done such a much better job of pacing himself now And he obviously is in better condition to yes, and it's just like look. He's never stopped hopping around It's fucking tough take two years off, then you jump in with a killer's ranked number six man. It's not easy Especially a young dude all hungry beyond still trying. It's like gutter Nelson taking two years off and jumping back in it's fucking tough, man Good kick Sean Brady's favored is he yeah Sean Brady's favorite over four and a half rounds is also favorite. Yes interesting Yes, this card has a potential to be you know, if you're looking for knockouts, this might not be the one card for you. It'd be tough for Brady to stop Leon. Yeah, very tough. It's going to be interesting to see how he fares on the feet, because Leon's such a technician on the feet.
Starting point is 02:35:19 He's such a sniper, but he's also going to be super wary about the takedown, but he's been trying to take people down to kind of like prove a point like he did with Camaro Yeah, I hope he doesn't try to do that with Sean bad idea Yeah, it's a different level and Brady just it's just like in the fifth round you look at that Gilbert fight It's like you had more takedowns in the fifth round like his cardio is insane. Yeah, he's very fit Holberg seems to be walking away from it Over again getting a title shot after this one though. No But it puts him in the top for sure. He yeah top five He just hasn't done anything like real spectacular
Starting point is 02:36:03 over just aware of roundtree and Jamal Hill would be fun John still pushing though man he's going after him good low kicks oh oh oh we clipped him with that left hand yeah John can't get his range mmm good fight solid fight There's she on each other Warriors Guys being guys. Yeah, just a couple of bros. Just a couple of bros Just fighting shadow at each other. Yeah, I think over probably got that decision. Yeah slight decision I'm very interested to see how Sean deals with the stand-up
Starting point is 02:36:43 You know because Sean stand- up has come a long way, but there's levels. Big, big difference. Yeah. But then there's a big difference on the feet too, right? So it's all about who and their will, right? Right. Well, if Sean can get him down early, like Bilal did,
Starting point is 02:36:59 it would be a big thing. And Bilal set the blueprint, constant pressure. But I do think you have to take into consideration the fact that that was a 5 AM fight, which is just nuts. I mean. It sucks, but you're pros. I know, but like. You just got to go, man.
Starting point is 02:37:13 How crazy is that? Like, everybody in the audience has been drunk since 2 in the morning. They're all like, ehh. It's tough. They're all exhausted. They're fucking filled with beer. There's people sleeping. They were sleeping. They're fucking filled with beer. You know? There's people sleeping.
Starting point is 02:37:25 They were sleeping. Yeah. They were sleeping. It was so... They must be so exhausted. I can't imagine going to see a fight that's... The main event starts at five in the morning. I think the main event was like six in the morning.
Starting point is 02:37:37 Yeah. That's rough. It's ridiculous. It's terrible. Why don't you just do it this way? Just have the fights on early. You know? That was a pay-per-view, right?
Starting point is 02:37:45 Yeah, that's why yeah, but still have a pay-per-view three in the afternoon. Who cares? I prefer it Yeah, Saturday people will still buy it they watch football in the day true Why wouldn't they watch a big fight during the day? Just let them know in advance. It's 3 p.m. Start Don't know any complain. Here you go. I'm Aspen all This is 3 p.m. start. The only one who complained was Tom Aspinall. 29-28. Carlos. Yep. Yep. Yeah, it's gonna get dicey for you on now.
Starting point is 02:38:17 Good decision. Yeah, hard road for him. Yeah, sports, man. You know? I mean, two years off Not really a tune-up fight tough fight. There's no tune-up fights. There's that that's what I'm saying the UFC There's there's not much they can do for you. That's what's crazy cuz boxing I think has it right when a guy hasn't been fighting for a while Give him some fucking shake off the dust. Okay, you don't know number 30 guy right out of Tijuana Yeah, pop. You see don't that. I know. They don't have managers that like set their fighter up for victory either. Like on the under cards, like now
Starting point is 02:38:52 you're going to face a brawler, now you're going to face a short guy who bobs and wheeze, now you're going to face a tall guy. Yeah. By the time a guy gets to a championship level in boxing, they've been tried and tested. It's very systematic. UFC is not like that. I know. Did you see the Lamont Roach, Javante Davis fight? Yes.
Starting point is 02:39:13 Oh, I had Lamont Roach, didn't you? Yeah. Well, especially with that knockdown. Yeah, that's a real lockdown. Wow. You take a knee, that's 10, eight round. And Javante is like, I had something in my eye. I'm like, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 02:39:24 You took a knee. You know the rules. That's the rules. That's 10-8 round and they did Jovan Tins. I had something in my eye. I'm like, I don't give fuck you took any Yeah, you know the rules. That's the rules That's the rule dim the rules and they didn't have the replay ready. So the they didn't look at so crap, dude Dan again involved in it might help it perhaps Yeah, or you know, you know can't change the tiger stripes. Well, you see their pay structure. It's also far away out from getting done, because guys are on a contract. Was that pay structure legit, though?
Starting point is 02:39:51 Yeah. Was it legit? Yeah. I mean, pretty sure it's legit. But that actually helps boxing overall. The top dogs aren't going to eat like they are now with $40, $50 million paydays. But the middle guys that can grow boxing, and that's what it's gonna do.
Starting point is 02:40:07 Right, but if you want to get the top guys, you're gonna have to pay them. Correct. On that pay structure, you ain't getting any of the big fish. They're being pulled up. Obviously, they got Canelo to get away from the Jake Paul fight, right? Like Canelo was gonna fight Jake Paul, which would've been crazy. And then they said no no no no no Turkey came along and said listen
Starting point is 02:40:30 Open up the fucking case from pulp fiction. Yeah That dude got all the money, huh? They got so much money they can do whatever they want they could just throw money at the sport It's good and bad we get the fights you want to see but that's also you know It's good There's some darkness that the fights you want to see is what's most important for the fans and they're putting shit together. You know, they made Jared Anderson fight for Cole. Yeah, there's a lot of fights that people didn't want. You know, which is like Jared Anderson. That was another example like young undefeated heavyweight on his way up and Everyone was like don't take that fight. Yeah, you're not ready for that fight And then they offered him a pile of loot
Starting point is 02:41:06 He's all say less and he got beat up Yeah, and then Bacoli getting stopped by Joseph Parker coming in fat with no no notice at all nothing Look, he was totally out of shape or notice like something crazy. Yeah. Yeah, cool. It's super short notice. Yeah crazy crazy fight. I Was looking forward to that fight. But but Coli, you got to give him a camp like you can't like he's not ready. And but Joseph Parker looks really fucking good. Oh, yeah. Boy, he's like reinvented. He's such a good guy. Do you know him at all? No, he's awesome. That's cool. Yeah. That do blog, I though Holy shit, man, what the
Starting point is 02:41:42 way he took out Anthony Joshua Jake wants to fight Anthony Joshua now so he wants to fight Anthony Joshua in 2026 and the haters online like yeah do it what about now yeah like what about fight him now he's like no I want to wait till 2026 like okay to put on weight put on all the steroids every steroid they have snake venom would want, here's the thing, I would watch him. Oh by the way, Rallo reached out to me, John Rallo, my boy, and he, him and his buddy Kimo actually own a company, he was telling me, that sells this blue scorpion shit.
Starting point is 02:42:15 They're involved with a blue scorpion venom company. He said he gave it to Matt Serra, it really helped him. So he wants to hook you up. Frank Meary says on it. Shit. Yeah. I'm already hooked up with it. He wants to get you some Jordan. I'll have some. Alright I'll have him send you some. I'm gonna start slow. I'm gonna find out if I get poisoned. Yeah yeah just. What the fuck are we doing? Drinking venom from scorpion is weird. That's weird. He's got the dopest tattoos. Yeah, his tattoos are good. Brady that Japanese
Starting point is 02:42:52 on the back. Such a fucking gorilla when he gets people to the ground. Like look at the size of his back like those muscles in his back. There's muscles that aren't supposed to be there. They're like turtle. They're so dense. It's weird when you see them walk. That's why it's so fucking strong. Oh yeah it's all back.
Starting point is 02:43:11 It's all squeeze muscles you know. Are you still fucking with the creatine gummies Joe? Oh yeah I love them. And do you feel so because I looked into creatine gummies and I heard when they bake the gummies it like takes away the potency of the creatine. Yeah, so when you think you're getting five milligrams, you're not. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 02:43:30 I did not know that. I feel great though, but I'm not taking five milligrams. I'm taking like 30. Yeah, I'm up to 20. I'm taking like 10 gummies at a time. Yeah. I wonder, I wonder. I'll try, I'll try like regular creatine
Starting point is 02:43:43 to see if I feel a difference. Yeah, see if he knows the difference. Because one of the things that'sine to see if I feel a difference. Yes, see if you notice a difference. Because one of the things that's really big is if I have a night where I don't get any sleep, that's a big factor. And then there's been studies done on improving cognitive performance when you're sleep deprived with creatine, like no loss in cognitive performance. That's wild. That's wild. It's like one of the only things that I could even think of. Because even caffeine, like you're awake
Starting point is 02:44:05 But you're still now you're still out of it. Yeah, goofy No that methylene blue and creatine is that's all I do dog and then scorpion venom scorpion venom I'm not gonna have every peptide in the book name a peptide Well, do you're crazy strong right now that thing that you did where you were Holding what was the amount of weight you were lifting? What was that? 315 for We you guys were holding it for could hold the longest is me Thor and my boy Hooper who's also a strongman And how much time did those guys hold it for I think it was like 47 seconds and then Thor was like 58 seconds. And what'd you get? A minute something. That's nuts. Nuts. That's nuts that you're technically
Starting point is 02:44:51 stronger than the mountain. That them holding fucking, yeah. That's bananas dude. Wow. That's crazy strong. Yeah. You must feel like a fucking beast right now. Yeah pretty beast. That's why it's like ready to fight that guy on the plane. I'm like, what'd you say? Oh Did a lift with with Mitchell Hooper and flex Lewis Oh player and in Vegas and I was like Like in a camp for something like one of the strongest I'd ever been and it was just like a complete embarrassment
Starting point is 02:45:24 Yeah, Mitchell's uh Mitchell's a special guy man because he's one of the strong and he has a personality like he's such a good dude and he's not like that big no he's not like but postures I was I was just sitting down eating food and they asked me to do it. I didn't want to do it How much does that guy have a fighter's nose Yes, no, that nose flattened and twisted and torqued to the side Like when he's looking at your head on it's like his nose is taking a hard, right? Yeah, I want to challenge those guys to 225 that's my shit
Starting point is 02:46:05 That's why I wanted to challenge a whole 25 bench press 225 Oh as many times as possible because I asked Thor and he told me his record I was like I beat that a while ago and he's like, let's do it right now I'm like right now like we're in the middle of photo show. I'm like, I ain't doing right now I was like, let's wait to after but we'll do 225 315 225 and see who can do the most and we just combine it. What's his record of 225? Oh, I think said like 30 something. What can you do 40? Really at 225. Yeah, that's fucking that's so Never I was like 225. I weighed like 225 and I did 27. That's impressive
Starting point is 02:46:41 Christ that's so great every Monday Wednesday. I do 225 I usually get at least 20 something the first time I do 315 for five and I do 225 for again 20 something So a BAM BAM BAM every Monday, but when you max out you can get to 40 Yeah, if I do just one I can do 40 That's so nuts probably almost a 500 pound bench press Pretty close, but it's all I train. It's all I like to do. Yeah, that's my workout Just bench. Yeah Such a meathead these days, it's a bench deadlift and pull-ups. That's all I do
Starting point is 02:47:16 I Just do like five sets of 20 But like good 20 pull-ups straight Straight arm. Straight arm. Like proper pull ups. For a big guy like, what do you weigh, like 250? That's a lot. Like 240 something. Jesus Christ, that's a lot of weight. I'm so fucking strong right now. That's nuts, dude.
Starting point is 02:47:32 Science is amazing. Yeah. I wish I was this strong. It's the scorpion venom. It must be. Look at Leon Edwards. He looks hyped. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:47:46 It's the proper time for Leon too right now, you know? Yeah. Here we go. Well, he probably wants revenge after that Bilal fight. You know, that was a bad fight for him. That was a tough night. He just didn't seem into it either, right? Like something was off. Well, it's fucking five o'clock in the morning. True. I mean,
Starting point is 02:48:07 how, how? How can you fight at your best when you're up all night? But also he's the champ, like why wouldn't you set up so the champs in ideal conditions? I keep like crazy. I get it if Balazs is the champ coming over there, you're like, he'll fight in London but has to be at 5 a.m. That makes sense. When you're the champ in your hometown, why the fuck we don't have 5 a.m.? I don't know. The whole thing is crazy. This is the idea of getting people to fight at that time. But there's also a lot of X-Factors we don't know behind the scenes. Like UFC's like, first of all, TV right deal, only time we could do it with the broadcast. But how's that possible? Only time we get the arena. Who knows? It's
Starting point is 02:48:39 ESPN+. They could just always have it on, anytime. But it can't be that easy where UFC just decides? I bet there's some other X factors that it has to be there has to be bias in America or bigger than everywhere else It has to be that and they it has to be the people used to buying it. Yeah, you know seven o'clock at night Yeah It has to be that's the only thing that makes sense But it's even seven o'clock at night. That means, you know when you're on the West Coast Like the the main card doesn't start until 7 p.m
Starting point is 02:49:07 On the East Coast is 10 p.m. And tough tens late super late Yeah, main event is not on till midnight 1 30 sometimes yeah, cuz sometimes. It's a four-hour card yeah Here we go Leon Rocky Edwards. How old's Leon now 35? Yeah, has to be 34 35 Jamie. Jamie, how old's Leon? Losing his hair in the back. He's been losing his hair. He should shave that shit. Yeah. 33. Wow. Okay. Still on his prime. 32 and 33. Here we go. See Bruce Buffer's suit tonight? No.
Starting point is 02:49:45 He's looking fucking snazzy. He always looks snazzy. Wait, so you see this? This is a fucking... Bruce has the best suits. He must have a warehouse filled with them too, because he has a new one forever. Yeah, he's a sponsor. Look at this thing.
Starting point is 02:49:54 Ah, look at that thing. Oh, fuck yeah. Who's better than that guy? Can you imagine UFC without Bruce Buffer? Nope. Like, what the fuck would you do? When you have a main card, I want to see his head looking like a grape. Yeah, he's screaming That's how he's gonna stroke out one day he's gonna be like 80 years old so proper way to go to fuck yeah
Starting point is 02:50:16 on a shield Cards go flying the air in the hole light delay, and they just wheel them off the whole audience gives it like a fucking 10 count He said ADCC 2022 he had like another event that he had to do and like ADCC like the scheduling wasn't perfect so he was a little bit late and I was trying to convince Joe to go out. I'm like dude. Just announced me and we find I've never announced anybody in a fight. I've only done it at weigh-ins I've never announced anybody in a fight. I've only done it at Wayans I'd be terrified to fuck someone's name up. That's not my cup of tea. Well, he's American
Starting point is 02:50:54 Yes, he's like that. Yeah I know that's your only job Some of those names are all just like the my biggest anxiety that you have see is getting the names right at the Wayans Just like some of them, you know, those under cards when when it's like a daggers standing fighter We're not familiar with oh, yeah, it's not happening And I have to have the people in the in the back they say it to me in my ear I'm like say it again, and then I write it out phonetically like he won't ski Yeah, like you have these weird names. You have to like spell it out the way it sounds It's even like just like C's and Z's in there that don't make any sense like what's that doing there? What's this fucking silent X?
Starting point is 02:51:31 Kudos to you like you mean GFL or game bread like you want to go in the in the octagon or the cage and Interview the fight and have to say their name like it's bright. I'm probably not my cup of tea, man Let me look at the roster Here we go. I'm pumped for this one. Here we fucking go. Yeah, it's a great fight. And Leon in London, he's gonna be fired up. You would hope. Fuck yeah. How could he not be? The whole audience is gonna be for him. Headshot dead. Look at me now. Look at me now. Woo, what a speech that was that was one of the greatest moments ever that head kick and fifth round lose fight he's losing and John
Starting point is 02:52:13 Anik with the perfect call like John Anik said that is not the club like he could quit right now but that is not the cloth from which he was cut bro head kick and his coach was like come on. Come on rocky Don't let him bully your son fuck don't let him bully you wow you ever heard it with the rocky music If you ever feel like you don't want to work out listen to that do that yeah, whoo You get fired up here we go Somebody has so many tattoos. Yeah, he's got no room left. Sean looks Way stronger. Oh, he's gonna be physically Leon's gonna be in for a surprise cuz he like oh he's so short I'm like if that happens, but I mean you gotta close that distance of danger
Starting point is 02:52:59 With this fucking it's also tough on me cuz remember he's supposed to fight JDM a straight striker Mm-hmm right by Jack and then he switch it well They gave him some time right how much time do they give him before they switched it for weeks. That's it Yeah, yeah, that is different stuff again in the ball fight with Sean They got beat up. We just got beat up because you don't get him down couldn't get him down But I'll just beat the brakes off him just defend the take down fucked his face up Sean looking to put a lot of pressure on just like Bilal did I Mean Bilal really gave the game plan. Uh-huh. Oh good. You're setting done
Starting point is 02:53:33 Yeah, especially when you're orthodox and you're fighting Leon and he's got that powerful left kick That's opened up and he has a reach advantage and he gets that kick to the body a few times. You're not the same left hand to the body a few times. You're not the same. Left hand to the body. Look, he's got his distance down. He's got his distance down. Showing you that Philly fade. Yeah. This is the difference is the management of the striking distance. Like Leon is so good at that. Yeah, but he has to be super careful in here. Yeah, because all, like right there. Oh, fuck dude. The counters. They're so crisp and they're so there's no fat in them No wasted movement straight down the pipe If you're Brady can't go for the takedown too early because we got expecting he's got to open something up
Starting point is 02:54:15 Oh, yeah, but he can't stay on the outside You know what the difference is is blog got his respect on the feet and then started laying take down Well, you remember Sean just landed a left hook there and now they're in a clinch Cuz it can be tough to beat Leon if you're just straight grappling This is interesting that Leon's choosing to clinch with him. Nice knee to the body by Leon Lance good. Okay. He is man. I was surprised when he took tomorrow down like his grappling is no fucking joke And remember in the last round he got on top of Balal was smashing him with elbows remember that yeah cut him open yeah just a little too little too
Starting point is 02:54:50 late but if you if you remember that blow off I've watched a few times below was landing like a motherfucker on the feet yes and constant pressure a lot of pressure constant got his respect on the feet and then opened up the takedown Sean's already cut you cut on the feet and then opened up the takedown. Sean's already cut. Yeesh. Cut on the left eye. It's just interesting that Leon is allowing the clinch. I'm surprised. Well he's stuffing that underhook pretty good with that thigh pry. I just would think that... Oh nice combination! That's what you gotta do. You gotta earn the respect and then the take down would be there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:27 Yeah, it's too good. His take down offense is too good just to shoot. Yeah, that's a nice combination by Sean. That's great. And this is five rounds, son. Yes sir. Oh, fuck. Oh, another good combination by Sean
Starting point is 02:55:58 They usually have patty on these London cards, but he's on that man Miami card same Miami Bro, that's a crazy fight him and Chandler. So interesting. That should be bananas. I Love Patty. I love Chandler, too I'm surprised at how big Patty is like when he fought Bobby green I was like he's massive dude He's so big for 55 The UFC that brought him up right they did right way Oh Leon caught him a left hand there he did Hmm Hmm Leann's making it hard in the clinch. Mm-hmm. He's putting that hand super deep in the thigh So British underhook doesn't really have the ability to do anything. Yeah, and those knees to the body are nice There's a nice straight left boat
Starting point is 02:56:39 Like Brady's got to get him in the clinch and get the underhook and immediately move them around with it Otherwise, he's not gonna make anything happen with it. And so far no attempt at all at shooting. Like even in these positions, he's not... Okay, now he is. This is where strength is gonna be the difference. Yeah, let's see if he can do something here. Yeah, cause this strength is fucking bananas. Beastly.
Starting point is 02:57:08 Yes. Look at the back on that motherfucker. I mean, Jesus Christ. It's like he's got a tumor. What is he? He's like 5'7"? 5'10"? No.
Starting point is 02:57:24 Yeah, he's 5'10"? Yeah, no. Yeah. I think he's five ten. Yeah, Leon is six two. Yeah Where's Sean walk around it he's gotta be 200 plus yeah, he's a big fucking boy. I just said five nine Really? I said five ten in the Leon six foot No, that's a UFC five. Yeah, it's taller than that. I bet you Sean Brady's definitely said six two for Leon Yeah, it's so good. You Sean Brady in person five eight five six four in my basketball programs, too Here goes take down here we go, he's flat no time though very little time very little but at least he's on time around though Yeah Depends if you can get off some shots No, very little time very little but at least he's on time around though. Yeah Depends if you can get off some shots It's definitely could be the most action really any landed on the feet a little more. Mm-hmm. Just probably one round for Brady
Starting point is 02:58:21 Man, I would like to see that take down landed earlier to see him set that up, but at least we've got a take down by Brady early to Let's see three to go Don't don't don't what commercials are you getting Jamie? Oh, this isn't a zip recruiter this is the same power whacker weed whacker lawn fucking Equipment you never see any good car commercials anymore. There's nothing dope out there a good commercial Yeah, for that cars. I'm gonna breathe in heavy man dude. They used to have commercials of like Ford's carrying like Chevy's yeah, it's cool a mountain. Yeah, I'm strapped. They're like talking shit. Yeah, you don't really see it anymore
Starting point is 02:59:05 They get all friendly. Oh. Oh, good combination. Three piece soda there. Oh, it was a trip. Yeah, nice. Interesting. Nice.
Starting point is 02:59:20 Nice to see. Here we go Oh He's going down. Oh Immediately wow that was dope that's nice. I get on Leon It suck him back here can suck him back and pull him between us between his knees This is off the cage good sign that he can get this clinch early in the second like this. Oh, that's a great take down. Ooh Drags him down thing Interesting take him to hit
Starting point is 03:00:02 Nice dirty. Yeah, nice good transition Interesting. Take him to a hip now. Nice. Nice. Nice. Good transition Heavy top pressure He's a tight waist nice strong tight waist Leon's in trouble. He's got the back. Yep Can his whole fucking legs tatted front and back everything His whole ass. He should be attacking the neck with his right hand so we could put the second hook in He needs to control there you go There's a lot of time to yeah
Starting point is 03:00:42 Discrepancy you can see on the Yeah, that's more than two inches for sure. Mmm. Yeah. Well, one of them could have no shoes on too, though Yeah, well, I mean, I mean five ten to six two is four inches Got the back But even even on the ground, with Balal, Leon lands. He survives down there. He's tough to put away. He lands some hard shots. Well Leon's doing a good job of stopping him from locking the body triangle.
Starting point is 03:01:14 I hear he's got it. He's got it, but now he's got the outside triangle. Now this is going to be an issue. Now he's in trouble. Leon keeps trying to turn belly down. Sean should just take him belly down and hit him. Yeah. Flap him out. Yeah. It's also such a brutal thing on your spine belly down with that body triangle. That's exhausting Again three minutes of this yeah, take a million hit him there is no
Starting point is 03:01:38 He's gonna let him go Or come up to mount and hit him Yeah, Leon keeps trying to go belly down, which is kind of crazy Or come up to mount and hit him. Yeah Leon keeps trying to go belly down which is kind of crazy. Oh these are hard shots man. Well he can go for a rolling escape but. When you're a strong dude like that you can land some powerful strikes from a short distance like this.
Starting point is 03:02:00 Like these are not fun. 170's gonna be interesting though because Shav out with injury is he yeah, what happened? I forget exactly what it was but he so he's not come back soon soon. Oh, yeah, you have you have balala And then Brady with a win over fucking this is a big round contender big round right here Yeah, if these guys could just figure out how to trap hands from the back They'd be so much more effective. So he talked on oh look at this look at this. He's gonna get up He's gonna at least get the turtle Maybe not it. Oh, I mean that was just Leon's Leon could I got up easy from here should have kept going
Starting point is 03:02:38 Yeah, because Brady's left knee wasn't controlling Leon's right hip so he could have just nothing stopping him from going belly down from there He's gonna try to just like he just gave up yeah, he's just gave up on or yeah He's gonna look for a Kimora's yeah for that hand here comes here goes and his legs are open You're allowed to grab your shorts isn't that kind of crazy yeah, I know that weird That's the only reason to have shorts. With tights are so much better because they can't grab you. Way better. Leon should be inserting a butterfly hook here and looking to off balance him out of
Starting point is 03:03:14 that kimura. With his right foot? He's still got time. He's still got time. He has a minute left. Brady should be using it to pass. Yeah. Yup. Like play a dilemma between the kim using it to pass. Yeah. Yep
Starting point is 03:03:30 They played dilemma between the Kimora and the pass that way you can do damage. He wants to lock it up Here it is goes Does he have to pass her go? Oh, he lost it, but now I gave him an underhook So now you should go back to a cross face. There he goes, but he gave up the underhook. There's a mouth Full back now you should flatten them out flat mountain punch yeah let's see gives you the neck this is big this is big but he's eating his ass up he's chewing him up on the ground he's fucking this is the thing man people they underestimate how fucking powerful this guy is on the ground and how good and he can do this
Starting point is 03:04:03 for five rounds Yeah, Leon's in trouble. He's in trouble. It's actually worse now because now Leon's actually carrying his bodyweight Yeah, the first half of the round he was He was he wasn't carrying Sean's bodyweight, right now He's this is this is more exhausting than having your back taken then he's just getting brutalized the whole round Yeah, the whole round exhausted He came into that round breathing heavy, and now he's just gotten brutalized for an entire second round Brady is a real contender real contender kids to do that to Leon Edwards is fucking huge You know that lost a ball all like everyone writes these guys off like that's the best thing you'd have these guys
Starting point is 03:04:44 Where's this guy is don't let him bully your rock over guy. Where is that? Is he back there or did he fire him? No Yeah, no way Maybe that guy's busy taught him yelling at me Imagine no way. Oh, there he is. There he is. There is. Yeah, he's the man. Is that him? No That's him in it in the back, right? Not looking great for Leon but Leon's, he'll pull it out though. He'll surprise you.
Starting point is 03:05:26 He's pulled things out before, that's for damn sure. The Kamara-Wussman fight. He just doesn't seem excited to be in there. Well, he got mauled. I mean, he got mauled that round. Even before that. Come on, buddy. I don't think it's excited.
Starting point is 03:05:40 I think he's fighting a fucking animal, man. You underestimate this guy and say he's too little and then you get in there with him You're like, oh Jesus. Yeah, so baby nice kick to my kicks and shit. Now. I another nice kick to the body That's the thing about that Southpaw orthodox stance just opens up that power kick from the outside on both guys Oh, nice uppercut by Leon. That was bad by Brady bad entry. Oh Another one good shot. He heard him. He heard him with that. Yeah, that's a big shot clipped him. There's a shot again. Oh Stuff nice that nice by Leon. That's a long range shot though. Yeah, I'm a little desperado there I think he got hurt. Yeah clipped right and I think he realized like hey, this is not a good spot for me to be in.
Starting point is 03:06:37 Oh excitement oh look at Leon shoots that's crazy. Buddy. That doesn't make sense. Horrible idea. Yeah look at this. Drag him down. He's got to block the elbow if he's gonna go behind though Yeah, this is a problem for a drag the level of grappling. Oh, oh, oh, oh guillotine No, he's just using it. Yeah, they got him on top back same position Leon You're doing so well, and you shot crazy terrible idea. I mean just trying to prove a point. I think Brady pushes that knee down. I'll be in three-quarter mount Wow full mounts sweet three minutes to go three and a half minutes. This is terrible awful Especially after that second round we just dominated him on the ground the level of grappling is just so significant there's such a difference and Physical strength and Sean is just such a fucking ape oh
Starting point is 03:07:37 Oh these are bad these are bad oh Those are huge shots It should break him to a hip Really should be pulling him down to a hip to one hip one side. Yeah. Yeah, it takes away the explosive ability to get up It's almost like he's daring him to try to get up Yeah, he's behind the elbows I mean could be but do that could be we just let guys up and yeah carrying body weight The whole time breaking them. You see how he's case Birdie's doing a pretty good job of keeping his knees off the floor
Starting point is 03:08:11 Keeping the weight on him. Yeah. Yeah Beautiful. Oh, yeah. Yeah incredibly tiring. Yeah and No moments of success No on the ground no moments. It's all. On the ground, no moments of success. It's all being dominated. There's no sunshine down there. And slightly escaping to another bad position. And he kind of put himself in there with that shitty shot.
Starting point is 03:08:34 Yeah, he totally put himself in here. And he was landing shots on the feet. I know, he had them wobbled. But hey, we're still only in the third. True. He's just got to avoid this at all costs. Like now you know, no more fucking around with all this. No, his team should like don't do like he's clearly shoot down
Starting point is 03:08:51 at least two rounds. Holy shit. Right. Bad. Oh, yeah. Like maybe three rounds, right? Like what about the first? Oh, he's down three rounds. Yeah. Yeah, this one's not even close Shawn just so dominant on the ground I mean you just want to see how Sean does against like Mark Chev or Shavkat and like another grappler who can strike and defend The takedowns that that'd be his big test putting two hooks in oh Oh shot putting two hooks in oh oh Leon's getting beaten up man I mean he just can't escape read the knees out flatten them out it's straight there he goes flattened out oh oh oh flatten them again keep him god damn this is domination yes I'm gonna fight Lange keeps trying to stand up head first he should be trying to four point
Starting point is 03:09:52 out of here we are just getting the fuck first how many clean shots is he landed I mean it's just constant bang bang bang. The crowd's like god damn it. Oh even from here, he's generating some power from here. Not a lot of time. Let's go for a choke here. Maybe he goes for an arm bar. Yeah, let's go for something. I mean, here's the claps. Grab ahold of that fucking right arm.
Starting point is 03:10:37 Leon's just waiting it out. Sean's doing it too. Look at it. Sean's taking some big deep breaths here. He's burning off a lot of energy. He's tired from beating his ass. Yeah, he's exhausted from beating the shit out of him Domination by Sean. I mean Leon's got a probably stop him or get some 10-8 round. That was a crazy bad
Starting point is 03:10:53 And just not a good decision to make against this early in the round and then he's eaten just hammers hammers Don't let him bully a rock. I mean if you're the corner like don't get taken down. I don't know what the fuck to tell you man We're doing a job stopping the take downs in the clench yes But when he gets when he gets shot on then Then ran to the cage. Yeah. Dean Thomas in the fucking house. Love Dean Thomas.
Starting point is 03:11:27 Yeah, he's awesome. If Leon didn't pull off that last second KO against Kamaru, you would never think he has a fucking shot. But because he's done that, we're all like, you never know, dude. Well you never know. It starts standing and he landed shots in the second and the third. He just got to not let him take him down He looks good though. He doesn't look he's off. Yeah, no But even tomorrow didn't beat him up like this. No nor did below no, I think Sean's on another level now
Starting point is 03:11:59 You know, yeah lossy really like you really talked heavily with me about his mental coaching and how much I'm affected had on Oh, did you have him in here? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I forget his his coach Do you remember his coach his mental coach? Yeah Jamie can find it cuz that guy's very good. I've watched some of the stuff online. What's the guy's background? You know, I do not. Oh good elbow by Sean. Oh Sean's teeing him up on the feet now. That's trouble Oh my goodness, Sean just can't get oh on the feet now. That's trouble. Oh my goodness Sean just can't get oh there you go. There's a shot good shot. What kind of mental coaching did he do? Well, you know I'd have to have him explain it. I don't want to butcher it
Starting point is 03:12:34 But it was all about strategies to keep him focused and on track Brian Kane as his mental coach Brian Kane peak performance as his mental coach. Brian Kane peak performance. Affirmation training, developing custom affirmations to enforce positive talk, build confidence, mind control techniques. I mean sometimes fighters just need a framework that they keep with them in a fight so if something goes sideways they can get back on track. Yeah something to get you back to home base. Yeah because sometimes fighters just lose their their train of thought they lose their focus They get into a downward spiral in their head and then they find themselves not completely going for the guillotine
Starting point is 03:13:15 Well, especially after this look at this one hand one arm guillotine. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. They'll need to mount him. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness Oh, he's about to tap. Oh my goodness. He's about to tap. Oh, oh, oh He's got the hands now. Oh now he's fucked. He's tapped. He tapped. Wow Sean fucking Brady Whoo? Holy shit, what a performance. Yeah, shut out. What a performance. Fantastic. Shut out against one of the best of all time in the division.
Starting point is 03:13:52 Former champion. Beats his ass and submits him. I wonder what he's asking Dana for here. Wow. That was impressive. But it makes sense Brady would hire a mental coach of that, because remember he's undefeated never lost And when you like your ass handed to you like oh fuck. I'm not the end-all be when is Bilal fighting Jack That two months is that two months yeah, where's that at I Don't know see if Jamie you could find it
Starting point is 03:14:22 Fucking unbelievable man. I'm super impressed. Montreal. You have seen 315, May 10th. Wow. I won't do that. I don't go to Canada anymore. I don't. No, nor should you. Uh-uh. No, discipline. Yeah, I'd rather go to Russia. Yeah, fuck yeah. Hell yeah. When they become the US, you never know.
Starting point is 03:14:42 That's never gonna happen. That's so crazy. They ask them to be the 51st date. I had a conversation with Trump about it He goes I first I started calling him governor Trudeau just for fun Then a lot of people saying it's a good idea. Maybe it is a good idea a lot of people say look at this fucking squeeze man Did you ever work with a mental coach Gordon seem pretty mentally fucking strong? No, I believe that confidence is built in the gym. Through training yeah. If you hit an arm bar ten times out of ten times in training you're pretty confident that it's gonna work but if you don't hit it in training why would you be confident? Do you have moments in your past where you had a lap lapse of concentration and
Starting point is 03:15:23 then you realized never do that again? Yes, like I'm pretty good at analyzing mistakes and then fixing them. Coming up I would be super hot and cold, I would beat a lot of guys and then I'd have one disastrous match at like Purple Belt or something or Brown Belt. And then I was like, everyone was always like your Tom or, you know, friends were like, how will you beat everyone up in the gym? You can't translate it to the mat. And I was like, I don't know, man, I just, I feel like eventually I'm going to get like good. And then you know, be good everywhere and no one will be able to beat me in any position. And
Starting point is 03:16:03 then kind of just like going through the reps in the gym and you know got to a point where I was beating everyone from every position So so just you accelerated your skill set so far beyond that you just were so confident that you didn't need to Yeah, but I mean there is there definitely is like the it factor that you can't really like put your finger on like Like most guys even at the highest levels, if you give them the reason to quit, they'll quit. So you can be as technically sound as you want. Even guys who are super good technically, you see a lot of Jiu Jitsu who are super good technically,
Starting point is 03:16:38 if they just get pushed hard and they don't have success early on, they either crush a guy in the first five minutes or they lose the match. Well, that's why you like those no time limit fights, right? They don't have like success early on they either like crush a guy and like the first five minutes or like Or they lose the match. Well, that's why you like those no time limit fights, right like the Felipe fight. Yeah Oh, I think I'm a lot stronger mentally than everyone I compete against but also That is a big physical factor because of the fact that When you have like a 30-minute match, for example, the most important thing is the work rate so if it doesn't matter how good your cardio is like how high your vo2 max is if you're working twice as hard as I am
Starting point is 03:17:09 You're gonna get tired faster than I am It's just so it because I'm so much more technical because the gap in skill is so big between being the next best guy Their work rate is always three four or five times as high as mine. They have to explode They have to move quickly. It doesn't matter how good your cardio is. Like if I ran a mile it wouldn't be impressive, but because I'm so much more efficient the work rate is so much higher for my opponents that they just fatigue a lot faster. Gangster. Crazy. Yeah crazy. It's crazy too that you lay out the blueprint of what to do. Train 365 days a year, constantly study, constantly go over positions, constantly drill things, constantly improve upon techniques, and then you put the techniques out. You put them
Starting point is 03:17:52 out in instructionals and people still can't f*** with it. Well that's what everyone always talks about. Everybody always talks about hard work, but the hardest work is mental work. Like there's a reason why guys on Wall Street make more money than guys who dig ditches because they work harder. Like it's it's not just physical like everyone is everyone has no problem coming in getting a sweat going home being sore stuff like that but if you ask them to sit down and watch an hour's worth of instruction every night from it like a Gordon Ryan instructional which is proven to work in competition nobody wants to do that. You can't do it. Hmm interesting Well, you can give them the tools, but they won't build the house
Starting point is 03:18:28 Yeah like all of my like I have like 40 instructionals like hundreds of hours worth of Instructionals that I do and I've referenced matches that I hit this and the exact technique in in competition at world level And just no one's picked up on it. No one not no one at all They kind of just like grab stuff like they see me do like a move and they kind of just like get the basics of it but no one's really like in-depth studied it and like been able to perform the moves in competition.
Starting point is 03:18:55 It's like embarrassing for the sport. That's so crazy. It's so interesting that the thing that you would need is just a work ethic. Like everyone's just like oh he's just like a big juice head. And I'm just like, OK, guys, this makes my job easier. I'm glad that we all are agreeing on this because it just makes my job so much easier. The stuff he's talking about also is an exciting, you know?
Starting point is 03:19:16 Right. You have to be super disciplined. Yeah, that's the thing. But like, what wins wars is technology and information. Like usually, like a country with more technology, But like, what wins wars is technology and information. Like, usually a country with more technology, more access to technology and information is going to be able to win a war.
Starting point is 03:19:32 It's the same thing for fighting. Like if you know more, most of the time you're gonna be able to win more. Like I'm beating these guys because I know more than they do. Everybody's tough, everybody's strong, everybody's like, like it's you know there's guys or even the best guys in the world they're super inconsistent like they'll win to they'll lose one they'll win for they'll lose two but what do you know
Starting point is 03:19:55 more than everyone in every given position it's like pretty easy what's going on you were telling me your stomach's getting better now I can eat a little bit more. Like I'm eating better meals, but training hard is still tough. Like whenever my heart rate gets super high and I start to get like tired from like a hard session, I still get super nauseous, so... I can't believe no one has found a solution to that. That's wild. Have you run your blood work through chat GPT? Are you done any of that?
Starting point is 03:20:22 The chat GPT thing, I gotta do that that you talked to me about that the other day yeah but doctors know more about space or we know more about space than we do the stomach like that and my issues in the small intestine which is like the hardest one to treat because like they can look at your stomach with an endoscopy and they can look at your large intestine intestine with the colonoscopy but like figure out what the fuck's going on in your small intestine is like a completely... Like they just can't, they can't scope it until it's hard. It's crazy that it all comes from antibiotics.
Starting point is 03:20:52 Oh yeah. Antibiotics fucked my life up way more than anything else I've ever done to myself. That's so crazy. Like by far, yeah. But you're not supposed to do them the way you did them, right? You're not supposed to take antibiotics for a year. Well, so it was like, so if you get staph and you don't treat it, it just spreads and you die.
Starting point is 03:21:12 Yeah. So it was like, I got caught in this cycle where it was like, I got staph, I took antibiotics, and then I'd be good for two days, got staph, took antibiotics, got staph, took antibiotics, got staph, took, so it was just like, I'd have like three days of training and then I would just get staff again because once my stomach started to get affected and my immune system wasn't as strong, my stomach was trying to, my body was trying to fix my stomach and then I would get staff because my immune system wasn't as strong. So then I take antibiotics and then that would destroy my stomach, make my immune system weaker and then I get staff again So I just got caught in this cycle and I'm sitting there like I'm not a pussy
Starting point is 03:21:49 I'm not gonna stop training So just me training the whole time regardless of what was going on like I would not train when I had the staff But I wasn't gonna like take time off and like try to deal with my stomach I was just like fucking got a kid next to him mental toughness can sometimes fuck you up Yeah, give you ever thought about trying like a long fast I mean, I've been forced into like two-week fasts like long like like two weeks Yeah, like yeah, like pretty much like not eating hardly anything I was actually before I fought Roberto Jim as the one time I called the arm bar
Starting point is 03:22:23 I was in the hospital like two days before that getting IVs because I just hadn't eaten in like a week and a half two weeks Well, I couldn't eat anything That's crazy So obviously then that's not gonna cure it. No And the problem is it's like everything is trial and error. So it's a go try this for eight weeks Fucking eight weeks is a long time. And you can try, and you can't like do everything at one time because then you don't know,
Starting point is 03:22:49 like you said, like I just threw everything at it. You don't know what's actually making me feel good. So it's like you have to add one thing and take away one thing at a time. What about your diet? Has anything helped in that regard? I couldn't even eat red meat for a long time. Like everyone was suggesting carnivore, but my stomach just wouldn't digest it. Like fast
Starting point is 03:23:09 food screws me up, steaks sometimes still mess me up, spicy food I can't do, like light chicken and rice, eggs. So very bland. Crazy. What a fucking disaster. Crazy that you're still able to operate at such a high level with such a giant fucking problem that would really end most people's careers That's what it is Everybody's got their I know but I just can't imagine that with all the resources of the world that someone hasn't reached out just a belly solution Tell me man
Starting point is 03:23:39 You know, I mean, isn't it kind of crazy that you think that no one there's not one guy out there in Australia or some shit I figured it out. I mean that same issue. Yeah. Well, I mean there was one the first time I came on this show a Ton of people reached out. I finally found that guy Who like first of all when you go to a normal GI doctor like the guy in California Did test that none of the other GI doctors even know exist. And I'm like, I don't know how that's possible. Like if you ask me a question in jujitsu, it's like XYZ. Whereas like you go to one doctor and there's no idea what the other tests were
Starting point is 03:24:13 that I got ran on me by another doctor, which is just so insane. So this one guy actually ran tests and he was like, oh, all these things are wrong with you. And now it's a question of how can we treat them. But like most of the doctors I went to like all the best doctors in the US Just did like an endoscopy like some basic blood work and they're like, oh, you're fine. I'm like, I'm definitely not fine So this other doctor that said this is what's wrong with you. This is what was his solution Well, it's just a bunch of things like I mean I could sit here and list for five minutes of things that are wrong with me but It was like, you know, we're gonna do a lot of holistic stuff like over-the-counter
Starting point is 03:24:50 stuff like like binders to like deal with like mold poisoning toxic like issues and then a lot of like probiotics anti- like prescription antifungals like just a combination of stuff like glue to shield like you just drink it and like coats the lining of your esophagus in your in your stomach because my big issue is with a small intestine burr the The food and bile back up into the stomach and just sits there because it's something there's the small intestines or so That's amazing. Yes. Yeah, so it's like you eat food You get full fast and the food just sits in your stomach and just like rots in your stomach
Starting point is 03:25:27 It doesn't filter down. Oh It's great fun times. It's basically like being seasick 24-7 and what is your thoughts on competing again? Well right now. We're just trying to open up this school So I've been trying to open up this damn school for like two years up in North Austin. So once I get, we're like right at the tail end of getting that open, so once we get that open and up and running, then I'll jump back in, if I'm healthy. And there's nothing you can do differently than what you're doing now? I mean I have a, I do follow-ups with the guy, like so for example, it keeps evolving, so like they got that fungal issue they think under control. But because the fungal issue in the small intestines now is resolved or mostly resolved,
Starting point is 03:26:13 they think, the lining of the intestines is so inflamed, like a scar basically, that you have mast cells underneath your intestinal wall. So they're like garbage bags. So when food or stomach acid leaks through the intestinal wall and hits the mast cells, they shoot histamines back up to try to prevent it from leaking into your bloodstream. So every time I eat food, I just get like this adrenaline, like adrenal response because if they just shoot histamines back up into my intestine under from under my
Starting point is 03:26:49 intestinal walls back into my intestines and it just sends my body into like a state of shock so like when it was really bad I would like every time I eat a meal my heart rate would go up to like 150 and just sit there for like 30 minutes and then like your heart rate goes up and your digestive system just stops so it was like it would just send my body into like a full panic attack every time I ate a meal and I'm like oh this is sick and now it's gotten like a little bit better because it's starting to heal a little bit but it's still not a hundred percent so it's like one problem just like evolved into another problem and then like because the leaky gut was so
Starting point is 03:27:22 bad like my kidneys were shutting down because I couldn't filter out all the like that's when I like took a leave of absence or retired whatever you want to call it with that after I fought back in the one time when we first met like it was like leaky gut was so bad my kidneys started to shut down and then like my blood pressure is high have they ever tried oral BPC 157 I've been on that for like three years yeah yeah is that any a combination of like it definitely helps. Try the shop method Whatever they tell you the dose is a sink at it. Just do yeah whole bottle
Starting point is 03:27:56 Let's see what happens with a whole bottle. I'm just hoping Elon makes a cyborgs Yeah, I'll be ready to go. My flight's at 730. All right. Let's wrap this up. All right. Thank you everybody Love you guys. See you guys. Love you, too. See you. Bye Thanks for watching!

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