The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 10, 2014
Episode Date: May 10, 2014May 10, 2014 - Fight Companion ...
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Still waiting for you to fucking email me your address, you clown.
I texted to you, bro.
I told you.
Email it to me, you fucking clown.
I'm not emailing.
Did I not tell him?
You did.
I'm not using email.
I told you.
Email it to me so I can email it to Aubrey.
Oh, yeah, I'll get right on that.
I can't get my best friend.
All I want is a piece of iron.
It's so hard.
It's so hard to email people.
It's almost impossible.
One piece of iron for my best friends.
Write it down on that little yellow pad there.
I just want to do kettlebell workouts.
He doesn't care about my piece of paper.
You should have seen Brian trying to pull back a 90-pound bow the other day.
It was one of the saddest things I've ever seen in my life.
He tells me it's all in the technique.
Oh, it is.
Yeah.
It's all in the technique of lifting weights for many years so that you're not weak.
Shut up. It's all in the technique of being a for many years so that you're not weak. Shut up.
It's all in the technique of being a man.
I wasn't warmed up.
It was so sad.
My back was like a barrel of snails.
Anyway, he needs kettlebells, Aubrey.
He needs a lot of things, but kettlebells are also on the menu.
I don't know if he wants one.
He won't give us the idea.
I want the chip.
Maybe he doesn't want it.
No.
No, man.
Maybe if he has it, it'll look at him.
Let's see what we got here today.
The main fights.
Costa Philippou is a good fight versus Lorenz Larkin.
That's the co-main.
Eric Koch is fighting on this card as well.
Let me pull it up on UFC.com.
UFC.com is a very good website, but the UFC app, boy, does that suck a fat one.
That is a fucking terrible app.
Whoever made that app, how dare you.
Koch versus Crunk Shank, it would be the
fight of the night. That's a very good
fight. Eric Koch versus Darren Crookshank
is a very good fight. And Crookshank,
who's his last opponent?
He's so fun to watch, man.
Oh yeah, no shit, man. Darren
is a Taekwondo
guy originally.
He's got wild ass fucking kicks.
But he's also putting together
the rest of his game now.
You might have the best nickname in sports.
The Detroit Superstar?
What?
It's a little long.
No, it's dope, man.
And his style is sick.
I think Uncle Creepy takes it for me.
That's pretty good. A little creepy.
The Detroit Superstar.
What would my name be if I was a fighter?
Brian the Irritable.
The Irritable?
Brian the Crumpy.
You wouldn't have a nickname, bro.
When he doesn't eat, he gets Crumpy Callan.
You really wouldn't have a nickname.
No?
No.
What do you mean?
I need a nickname.
You'd be the kid.
What about this?
How about this?
How about this?
Brian Brendan Sharp Callan.
Mike Rio was the last fight.
God damn, that was a good fight.
Jesus.
In the Mike Rio fight, Darren Cruikshank was on fire.
Is that where he went with kicks, right?
He was landing a lot of kicks.
Everything.
He was landing everything.
He just looked sensational.
Nuts.
And Coke's a bad motherfucker, dude.
Dude.
Coke, he's a very talented kid.
I mean, he lost to Poirier
But then he came back
And beat
Raffaello Oliveira
He lost to
Right
He lost to Poirier
And then he lost to
Lost to Ricardo Lamas
That's right
Back to back
Yeah
But two tough
Fucking guys
Two really tough guys
Why did you pour this
In the glass
You made sure you
Poured it in glass
Yeah
Well it tastes better
In a glass
Yes it does
The bouquet
Shut up
The bouquet
Shut your mouth Bring it to your nose Shut your fucking mouth Take it in your glass. Yeah, yeah. Will it taste better in a glass than a little coffee mug? The bouquet. Shut up. The bouquet. Shut your mouth.
Bring it to your nose.
Shut your fucking mouth.
Take it into your mouth.
It's an experience.
Hey, did you guys see
Eddie Wineland lost today?
I know.
Got knocked out by this kid
who hasn't fought in two years.
First round.
I believe it was the second round.
I think it was the end of the first.
Could be.
Am I crazy?
It might have been.
I was watching it
while I was working out,
so you might be right.
Who was the guy he lost to?
I'll tell you right now.
I have a computer. But Wineland, I mean, coming off of a title fight, right?
You know, comes off of that fight, then looks sensational in his next fight. He fights... Did he just get caught? He fought Eve Jo Buain, stopped him, and looked fucking sensational.
No, he fights in a weird way. Wineland never lifts his hands
above his nipples. Aggressive, too.
Super aggressive, super strong.
He's a really good fighter. He moves his head a lot.
He's got a lot of feints, and he gets away
with it, and the punches come from all kinds
of crazy angles because his hands are low, but
that's never a good style. It's just never
a good style. Keeping your fucking hands low is never good.
And this kid cracked him,
Johnny Eduardo. Cracked him with the right hand
in the first round.
Yeah, you're right. Round one.
Four minutes, 37 seconds
in round one. Caught him with a
right hand earlier in the round
and then stunned him with one
about four minutes, 20 in and then
followed up with another one and dropped him
and his legs just completely gave out.
Eddie's always that guy who's one away from a title.
Just in that weight class, he's always right there.
One big win, he's there.
Coming off that Yves Joboy fight where he looked fucking sensational.
And Joboy's a bad motherfucker, dude.
That was a really good fight.
And Eddie, what, ranked number four, I think?
So he's close.
Number four.
One win, he's close.
He's number four.
He takes this fight against an unheralded guy who hasn't fought in over two years.
This kid hadn't fought in, I think it was something crazy, like 700 days.
God, seven.
Oh, my God.
Man, that's where it doesn't pay to take fights like this.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Well, a lot of guys sit out, and people give them a hard time, and they say, oh, fighters
fight. But you know what, man? It's not like that, man. It's a business. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Well, a lot of guys sit out and people give them a hard time and they say, oh, fighters fight, but you know
what? It's not like that, man. It's a business.
You should have a manager.
Listen, UFC asked me to fight. I take it.
But at the same time, too, you want
to fight the highest ranked guy, the most
famous guy possible. That's all
anyone cares about, man. The highest ranked guy.
Who have you ever turned down?
Who have you ever turned down and why?
Man, the only fight I ever turned down, it was once.
I don't remember his name.
Huge guy.
Grappler, Abu Dhabi, lost to Pee Wee Herman, fight of the night.
You know what I'm talking about?
He retired.
Enormous dude.
God damn it.
Okay, let's Dave Herman pull that up
The Rock?
He really sweats a lot?
Is that the guy?
The guy who sweats a lot
Man I forget his name
Like super muscular
And my manager called me
With the fight and I was like
Oh John Olive Einemo
Einemo
So they called me the fight And I just got off fighting Noguera.
So I'm not going to go Noguera Aynamo.
I was just like, no, man, not happening.
And my manager was like, well, let's see what they come with.
I said, all right, well, if it's a do or die, I'll take it.
Let's do it.
I'll destroy this guy.
And then they came up with a different opponent.
It came up with Rothwell.
But that's the only fight where I was like,
I don't think so, man. The only time.
Yeah, it's a tricky thing, right?
Like, when you want to take a fight
if you're, you know,
if you need a fight, if you need the money
you want to take a fight.
But if you're in a situation where they offer you something
dangerous on two weeks notice.
Like, sometimes cards fall apart
and they try to pull that card together.
Like, they're making a bunch of calls this week to try to get someone to fight Vitor in Brazil
because Junior Dos Santos just broke his hand.
Junior Dos Santos is supposed to fight Stipe Miocic.
He broke his hand.
They had Miocic is now going to fight.
Maldana, right?
Maldana?
Is that his name?
Yeah, Fabio Maldonado.
Yes.
Who's a 205er who's fat at 205.
True.
And now he's stepping up to fight heavyweight.
And Stipe Miocic, who's a top 10 guy.
So it's kind of a crazy matchup that probably wouldn't be approved in the States.
I agree.
And I also heard that you can get your money back.
Ooh.
Wait, why wouldn't that fight be approved in the States?
Is that 205 or fighting a top 10 heavyweight?
So there's a commission that says that's just too much of a mismatch?
Well, not even a 205 or a 205 that's been zombied.
You know what I mean?
He's been beaten senseless by a bunch of guys.
He's a tough motherfucker.
He's as tough as they come.
Fabio Maldonado is so tough that you've got to watch out for him if he fights a big guy
because you've got to go, God, this guy takes so much punishment.
He's so fucking tough. You've gotta protect almost protect him from the other end though i can see because
stipe has in the past don't get me wrong stipe's a beast used to be a training partner of mine
super freak to athlete too monster however when he fought struve he kind of gassed out got knocked
out correct yeah yeah now in this fight I mean the cardio
could be an issue and Fabiano boxing is really really good yeah he's got the
most rabid fans in the world driving him that's true we watch we watch to him in
Brazil yeah and they'd go crazy for Fabio well Maldonado is just as tough
as fuck here he's tough as fuck man he's and he's probably one of the best body
punchers in the sport.
My concern would just be the size, just the sheer size difference.
What does Stipe walk around at, 230?
240.
Who's this right now?
Who's fighting right now?
And, Jamie, give us some volume so we can at least hear it.
Hearing it is fine.
Chris Carrioso.
Chris Carrioso.
And who's he fighting, though?
Give us some volume.
Bruce Buffer with the official introduction.
Give us some volume.
Bruce Buffer with the official introduction.
The coolest fucking thing is watching Bruce Buffer introduce fighters in Brazil because everybody together goes, it's time.
Is that really?
Gangster.
Awesome.
15,000 people will be doing it in sync.
No way.
Oh, it's amazing.
It's one of the coolest things ever.
He's actually great.
He's got that great voice. Bruce Buffer's the best the coolest things ever. He's actually great. He's got that great voice.
Bruce Buffer's the best.
He really is.
He's the best.
The best.
Bruce Buffer, I've seen him at Gold's Gym.
I work out there in the offseason.
I saw him in Gold's Gym on the cable machine doing the Bruce, what was it, the 180 turn?
No.
He works it out.
He works it out.
Bruce!
It's so
explosive. I didn't see him and I'm walking
through the gym. I hear,
hybrid! In front of everyone.
I was so embarrassed.
So embarrassed.
That's funny. He's good though.
He doesn't have a card with him
or anything. He just remembers it all.
That's not true at all. He has a card constantly.
That's what he told me.
What are you talking about? He reads off the cards. He throws the true at all. He has a card constantly. That's what he told me. Oh, shit.
What are you talking about?
He reads off the cards.
He throws the cards on the ground when he's done.
Oh, really?
Fucking jackass.
Get your facts right.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, no.
I was talking about The Rock again.
Shit.
By the way, all you cunts that get mad at me for giving Brian a hard time, do you know
I'd love this motherfucker like a brother?
And I would give him a hard time if it was a podcast or no podcast.
Exactly.
That's how friends hang with each other.
People get sensitive for me. Thank you, everybody.
It's fun. Thank you, America.
And by the way, he'll do that to me, too.
Okay? That's what friends are all about.
Just not on the podcast. This is the Joe Rogan experience.
I just don't have as many weaknesses as him, so it's
more difficult to find holes. Less openings?
But if he finds holes in my game,
he will chip at them. That's exactly right.
That's one of the things that friends are for.
I like the USA judo sponsorship.
Keep each other honest.
You've got a good friend.
It's about time they jump on board.
What's that?
USA judo jumping on board.
And USA wrestling jumped on.
Yeah.
Well, USA wrestling has been on for a while.
Yeah, it is.
USA wrestling has been on for a while.
Hey, Brennan, I feel like when you kick to the body with the top of your foot.
Man, these guys are fighting.
He did say that last time I went to fight with him.
But when you kick to the body with the top of your foot,
I always feel like that's so risky because you could break the top of your foot so easily.
Shut the fuck up.
On an elbow.
Hey, man.
Hey, man, we're talking Taekwondo.
No, well, you know, I broke the top of my foot many times on elbows.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Elbows.
That's what you've got to be most concerned about.
You've got to be scared.
Yeah, but look, obviously you can break your fucking shins.
You can break everything.
Yeah, and mine are lightning fast because I go up and then I kick.
You see Tyrone Spong break his leg against fucking Gokhan Saki?
Holy shit.
No, I didn't see that.
It's weird seeing a high-level kickboxer do that.
It's super rare.
I agree, but to me it's surprising that not more guys break their legs.
Yeah, it is.
What's weird is this rash of broken legs.
You know, Anderson Silva, Tyrone Spong.
I saw Anderson Silva last week looking pretty good, moving pretty good.
Yeah.
Well, Tyrone Spong is only four weeks out, I think.
He's already walking.
Yeah.
He's walking on a treadmill, no cast, no nothing.
They've got a bolt in there.
What they do now, back in the day when you'd break your femur
or break your bone in half like that, they would keep you off it.
What they do now is within 12 hours, 24 hours, they try to get you walking on it immediately.
And the reason for that, they'll set it and have you actually start putting pressure on it.
Because what they found is that you heal faster because your body rushes calcium to that part of the bone.
Isn't that weird?
That is weird.
Within 12 hours?
Yeah, 12 hours.
How can you walk on a broken leg in 12 hours?
Well, obviously, you don't put a lot of pressure,
but when they break their femur skiers,
they got those guys on their feet as soon as possible
because apparently, you know, you heal much faster.
Wow.
Yeah.
So, Cariasso, he's a wild motherfucker, man.
I love watching that kid fight.
Me too.
And now that he's...
This is 125, right?
These guys are fighting at 125, are they not?
Fly weights.
Yeah, 125.
Because he fought at 135 for the longest time,
and he was kind of undersized.
I'm glad they have that.
You know, they're thinking about doing a straw weight, a 115.
For guys?
For women's, obviously they are, but for guys they are?
Straw weight.
Man, that is a small dude.
That's a small dude.
Right?
That would be such a nightmare to fight
that guy because he'd probably still win and he's
so small. I'd box with that guy
Wayne McCullough. He'd light you up if you
tried to fight him. Are you kidding me? It's the worst thing ever.
It just takes so much longer. 119.
What's like Kenny Florin? You see Kenny
Florin in a bar? Probably going to pick on him.
Dresses like a hipster.
One of the baddest dudes on the planet. But both my
head and your head would fit in Kenny's head.
He's got a giant head.
Big head.
Nice set of hair, huge head.
When I first saw him in person, I went, that can't be Kenny Florian.
That's the biggest head I've ever seen on that gentleman.
I wonder if there's a real direct correlation between taking a punch and having a big head.
I always joke around about it and talk about it in podcasts.
I feel like there is. Well, boxing trainers, I think Emmanuel Stewart said that they look for,
when trainers are looking for boxers, they look for a wide face and a short neck.
Well, look at David Tua.
Who took a punch better than that guy?
Look at Roy Nelson.
Look at Mark Hunt.
Mark Hunt.
Roy Nelson.
Yeah.
Yeah, and there's some guys that just, like Tommy Hearns,
always had a hard time taking a punch, just has that narrow face,
and there's nothing you can do about that.
It is what it is.
You want to talk about a guy
who's been in some fucking wars?
Tommy Hearns?
I was watching some Tommy Hearns fights
the other day on YouTube.
That jab.
How about when he knocked out Duran?
Dude.
He knocked Duran dead.
And he fought at 47,
which I can't believe.
Yeah, well, he fought as high as Light Heavyweight, I believe.
He went all the way up.
Lost to Iran Barkley.
I think that was at 168.
I'm not sure.
You know what's interesting about this fight is usually you have to have,
so for instance, Homeboy on the Cage has red shorts.
Cariasso.
Yes, and the other guy has black and red shorts.
Right.
Both similar shorts. Usually have to cage has red shorts. Carriazo. Yes. And the other guy has black and red shorts. Right. Both similar shorts.
Usually have to be complete opposite shorts.
They force you to do that.
Yeah.
It's just the bottom of the trim, though.
It's pretty obvious, isn't it?
You think?
I'd say they're pretty damn close.
Is he a judoka, this guy?
The guy, what's his carriazo?
Smolka?
Carriazo?
No, he's a Muay Thai guy.
Brian's caught on using that term.
He's trying.
Judoka.
Judoka.
First of all, first of all.
How's your judoka?
It's my favorite word.
Don't let Ronda tell him some moves.
It's my favorite word, though.
Hari goshi.
Oh, shit.
Look at this.
Oh, boy.
That's tight.
Nope.
Lost the position.
Better let go of that guillotine.
A lot of guys have been catching that Von Fluh choke.
Yeah, man, because they hang on the guillotine.
Look at this.
He gets for it again.
He's not under the chin, though. He's just neck cranking over there. Nice. Oh, nice they hang on to the guillotine. Look at this. He gets for it again. He's not under the chin, though. He's just neck cranking him.
Nice.
Oh, nice. Nice finish at the end of the round.
Scrappy end of the round. Yeah, a lot of guys hang
on to that guillotine, and then all
the guy's doing is
taking him down, passing side control,
and you can't get your glove out.
You know what I'm saying? You can't get your glove out.
So then you have a choke there. You're just ramming
your shoulder into the artery, and they can't get it out out. So then you have a choke there. You're just ramming your shoulder into the artery.
And they can't get it out.
It's called the Von Fluh choke.
That's what everybody calls it.
Someone just had a big finish with that recently. Yeah, Ovin C. Prue.
O-S-P, yeah.
Ovin C. Prue.
Against Al Capone.
Yeah.
A guy who was fighting in heavyweight most of his career.
Really undersized heavyweight.
Like one of the smallest heavyweights ever.
Yeah, he's fighting Cody Donovan in Dublin now.
OSP is?
No, Al Capone at 205.
Interesting.
Yeah, that Von Fluh choke, you very rarely see in jiu-jitsu, though.
That's what's interesting about it.
Because jiu-jitsu guys don't, a good jiu-jitsu guy's not going to hang on to that.
Yeah.
He's just not.
It's true.
They're not going to waste their energy.
A high-level jiu-jitsu guy's not going to waste his energy on. Yeah. He's just not. It's true. They're not going to waste their energy.
A high-level jiu-jitsu guy is not going to waste his energy on that. It's a guy who's kind of panicking in a fight.
Panic in a fight gets taken down and doesn't want the guy to posture,
so he holds on to the guillotine.
And then when your glove's caught in there, you're screwed, man.
It's a lot of pressure.
I mean, I'm sure you felt it.
But with a glove on, it's a different story.
When you're stuck, it's like, dang.
Yeah, when a guy really knows how to put that weight
on it, too, he's got a good side control, he knows
how to pin you down, force that
shoulder into your neck. Yeah, you go to sleep.
Some guys can fuck you up just head-to-arm
control when they're passing your guard. I agree.
There's different kinds of pressure. It's like
wrestler pressure. Some guys get
on top of you. They know how to
put all their weight on a very small
point. There's some guys who get side control on you, but they how to put all their weight on a very small point.
There's some guys that get side control on you, but they're laying on their knees.
And even if their side control is solid, if you can't get out of it, you're not hurting.
You're not in pain.
And then there's other motherfuckers that will have all of their weight on the left side of their chest.
And they'll put side control on you and just crush you. Wear you like a glove.
It's a science.
It really is. It's a balance. I'm still working on it. Wear you like a glove. It's a science. It really is.
It's a balance.
I'm still working on it.
It's hard, man.
It's hard.
And it's interesting because I have a nasty twister side control on the right side.
But then when I do it on the left side, it feels alien because I never go to it on the left side.
I have some positions like that.
It's weird.
You would think that this is a position I know in my head inside and out.
It's not that complex a position.
But on the right side, bam, it's like a fucking clamp. Well, you would think that this is a position I know in my head inside and out. It's not that complex a position.
But on the right side, bam, it's like a fucking clamp.
Bang!
It's like locked in place.
But on the other side, I'm like moving too much and I'm slippery.
I wish people could see Joe because he's actually moving around in his chair.
He's wiggling.
I'm a wiggler.
He's a wiggler in this corner.
The wiggler.
I'm a wiggler, Brian Callen. Brian Callen, I'm a wiggler. Are you everiggler in this corner The wiggler I'm a wiggler Brian Callen Brian Callen
I'm a wiggler
Are you ever going to go back to Jiu Jitsu?
I think I'd like to
He's talking about on the ride down here
I miss it a lot
And then he goes
Well everyone has neck problems
Who does Jiu Jitsu
That is true
A lot of people do
I don't
I'm not going to win
I feel great
You're a big guy
Yeah
The real problem is rolling with big guys
Don't roll with big guys
Getting stacked
Getting stacked is a big problem.
And exploding, trying to explode from the bottom.
A lot of times guys get injured doing that.
You just got to be smart, Brian.
You're not trying to win Abu Dhabi or Worlds.
Yes, I am.
Just grab them with girls only.
He would.
When Brian and I first met each other, I brought him to Carlson Gracie's,
and he started working out with Sergio Cohen.
It was one of Carlson Gracie's black belts.
And he grabbed Sergio's neck.
Well, because I was-
Like, grabbed his neck, like, clawed his neck.
Sergio head-butted him in his nose and broke his nose.
Broke my nose. What?
And just smushed him like a bug.
Because I was actually-
He destroyed you.
I went in there, like, thinking as a wrestler,
I was going to take these-
I was taking, like, people down
because they don't care about that.
Let me clarify.
This is not what happened.
He just got aggressive and douchey with a guy who was a big, juiced up, crossing grace black belt.
I would pay money for that.
He's a big guy, too.
I'd pay money to watch that.
Yeah, I didn't have any respect because I thought, oh, this is the wrestling.
It's just bad wrestling.
I didn't know.
So ridiculous.
I love it.
You were that meathead who's going all hard.
I was just taken.
I would like other white belts and other blue belts who had never done any wrestling. I didn't know. So ridiculous. I love it. You were that meathead who's going all hard. I was just taken.
I would like, they'd, I mean, with other white belts and other, like, blue belts who'd never done any wrestling, so I'd be taking them down.
And then I go with Sergio, who decides to go, let's do some, you want to go takedowns?
And he grabs me, and I was like, oh, well, that's a bear.
He was so much bigger than him.
Okay, now we're back to Fox Sports 1, everybody.
The fights were on Fox Sports 2. And then what happened? The baseball game was over. We'll get back to Fox Sports 1, everybody. The fights were on Fox Sports 2.
And then what happened?
The baseball game was over.
We'll get back to my fight.
They got off that bullshit baseball game.
What was it?
9-0 forced us to.
Baseball.
If they invented baseball today, people would spit in your face if you tried to sell it to them.
I agree.
If you tried pitching to everyone, people would be like, what?
I got a game.
It could take forever.
Like fucking cricket.
Imagine trying to pitch cricket.
Oh, my God.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Why is he throwing the ball like that?
What is he doing?
Why does he have a paddle?
Bend your arm.
Bend your arm.
Hold on.
He has a paddle?
The other guy has a paddle.
And why is this game lasting three days?
Three fucking days.
You can just nick it and make it go backwards and win?
The game lasts three days.
And there is absolutely no satisfaction even if you whack the ball hard.
And guess what?
In baseball, if you hit the ball three out of ten times, you're in the Hall of Fame.
Yep.
Three out of ten.
Guess what?
In the UFC, you win three out of ten fights.
You don't have a job.
You're going home.
That's a great way to put it.
Three out of ten times.
Three out of ten.
You're in the Hall of Fame.
Cariasso just cracked him with a nice left.
Cariasso throws a very deceptive head kick, too.
He hides his head kicks well.
He'll sneak them over the outside of shoulders, like the right outside.
Like right over the jabs.
Did you see this fucking Deontay Wilder thing?
Yes.
Where he beat the fuck out of the internet troll?
Classic.
The guy he fought, first of all, that guy, the troll, is insane.
Like, clinically, something's wrong with him.
Like, he's, like, bipolar or something.
I want him to knock the troll out, like, really bad.
The troll had me laughing because they're in the gym, and he takes a shot and hits him in the body.
And then they, like, break it up.
And then the troll just goes, got you in the body, bro.
Yeah, I hit you in the body.
Oh, no, I hit you in the body, man.
Hit you in the body.
And then they went back at it, and Wilder crushed him, smashed him, got him on the ground, dropped him, hit him when he was down.
He's still like, I hit you in the body.
I hit you in the body.
That made me laugh, dude.
He's got that D. He's got that D, man.
He's going to sleep. He's got a power guillotine.
Oh, he's trying to get out of it. That's a good way to get
out of it. Guys do get out of it that way.
Just drop into their back.
Wow. See that right there?
That right there? That's how you hurt your neck.
That is how I... My fucking neck has gotten hurt so many times because I didn't tap.
And I'm like, oh, I'm not tapping.
I'm not tapping.
Meanwhile, your neck is ruined for weeks.
I don't have that ego.
If I'm going with another UFC heavyweight, if we're training together, I'm not tapping.
I don't have that ego.
You're not tapping.
No, however, if I'm at the Gracie Academy, man, I don't care.
Right.
I do not care.
The idea is that you shouldn't have been in that position in the first place.
You know how to defend it.
You're going to learn from it.
You're going to learn from it.
In UFC, if you're a heavyweight, you have to be under 260, right?
265.
Okay, 265.
Somebody was saying that there is a perfect, there is a number, there's a perfect weight
for a heavyweight.
240.
240?
Yeah, that's where the best guys seem to lie.
Even if you made the weight class 300 and you had a 300-pound guy.
Well, the difference is in boxing, in boxing it's a little lighter because you don't got to got to weigh on you.
You have to deal with the fact that you're moving body weight around.
There's a different weight.
In boxing, look at, at my opinion, Mike Tyson
is prime. The Mike Tyson of the early
like the 85 Mike Tyson
that range, I think he's the greatest heavyweight
of all time. That's my opinion.
Just a lot of other people have opinions, but I think
the Mike Tyson that destroyed Marvis
Frazier, the Mike Tyson that knocked out Larry Holmes
About 220? 220 maybe.
Crazy speed. Just motherfucking 220, maybe. 218. Crazy speed.
Just motherfucking guys.
Just motherfucking them.
Yeah.
But I don't think you could get away with that as a UFC fighter.
I don't think.
And boxing, by the way, doesn't even have a fucking weight limit.
Because he would have been what?
Too small to handle a big guy on top of him.
You know, a guy like Kane takes you down, lays on you, and starts beating you.
Or you got a guy like Bigfoot who's cutting from 300, man.
You're talking about a different game.
It's always funny to me, and granted, listen,
cutting weight, I'm sure, is horrendous.
I've cut from 250 to 225
for Metamorris, and it was tough, but not like
these guys making 155,
145. But we'll be at the weigh-ins
and nothing drives me more crazy.
Everyone goes, God,
wish I was a heavyweight. Everyone tells that, God, wish I was a heavyweight.
Everyone tells that to me. Wish I was a heavyweight.
Oh, do you?
Oh, do you?
Oh, really? That's cool.
You're fighting a guy at 155, right?
That's cool. Because I weigh 238.
The guy I'm fighting is 265.
I'm scared shitless.
He has 25 pounds on me.
That's a lot of weight.
I think I'm 25 steaks. That's a lot of weight. That's a lot of weight.
It's two different weight classes almost.
25, man.
25 16-ounce bones stacked on top of each other.
And then that drops on your head.
Is that two weight classes?
There's no other division like that.
There's nothing like that.
This guy keeps giving his neck to Cariasso.
You're right. The shorts are confusing. Iso. Cariasso's on the bottom there. You're right.
You know, the shorts are confusing because I just
thought Smolka was on the bottom there.
I've never seen it this close. Usually the UFC doesn't
play that game.
You know you're fighting a superstar
if they're like, yeah, he got black
shorts. Oh, if they make you
change the color of your shorts. Yeah, like Crow Cop, they're like,
you're wearing white. He's obviously wearing the
Croatian flag black. Cool, man. Nobody ever had to worry about that with Rich Franklin. He's got of your shorts. Yeah, like, co-cop, they're like, you're wearing white. He's obviously wearing the Croatian flag black.
Cool, man.
Nobody ever had to worry about that with Rich Franklin.
He's got the pink shorts.
He can have them.
Pink or brown.
Oh, Cariasso's mounted.
Oh, shit.
What the hell?
Smoke is on top of him.
Did you guys see the Zach Cummings fight earlier tonight?
No.
Fucking incredible fight, man.
Incredible.
What a fight.
It was awesome.
Yeah, and Cummings was the underdog, and he wound up winning.
I don't think mount is a dangerous position, as everyone thinks, as it's notoriously known for.
What do you think of that, Joe?
I think in MMA, the problem with the mount is when you go to rain down punches, you give up space.
And when you give up space, guys put their hands on your hips and they pop out. Exactly.
Like people think when you get to mount, like, oh, no, it's over.
No.
Especially if a guy knows what he's doing.
It depends on the mount though.
And you control your posture.
But if you have your hooks in and you control them, you're not going to be able to punch as hard.
Well, some guys have a nasty mount.
Like Benavidez has a wicked mount because he does a guard from the mount.
I love that position.
When you mount a guy and you cross your feet underneath his body,
you can constrict him the same way you can with a guard.
And Benavidez, if he gets an arm anywhere near your chin,
his guillotine game is so strong, as is Uriah Fabers, as is Chad Mendes.
All the alpha team guys.
They're ridiculous when they get your neck.
I'm just saying as far as taking punishment.
Yeah.
No.
If you have a decent mount defense, these guys are evenly matched.
Yeah.
It's a hell of a scramble.
This is a great jiu-jitsu match, actually.
Yeah.
There used to be a time where mount or back mount was game over.
You're screwed.
I think people got used to that for five years.
Exactly.
Oh, he's got his back.
It's over.
It's the same thing. Someone gets to
Mountain, even in camp
right now, someone gets to Mountain and everyone's like,
oh no. It's really not that big
of a deal. Remco Pardew
fought Marco Huas. Marco Huas
mounted him and he tapped.
It's like, it's over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sheer terror. He got the mount. He's like,
this is over. The position is no good.
You know what? One guy where if he got mount mount. He's like, he's just over the position. It's no good. You know what?
One guy where if he got mount, it was actually over and he should tap, Shane Carlin.
Oh, yeah. That's a good point.
That's like having a building on you.
Didn't matter how good your jiu-jitsu was.
It's like having a building on you.
But Brock Lesnar survived it.
Not mount.
Not mount.
By the way, Shane Carlin's the strongest guy.
He had knee on belly.
Knee on belly, half guard.
And he postured up. Shane Carlin's the strongest guy. What was he? Neon belly. Neon belly, half guard. And he postured up.
Shane Carlin's the strongest guy you've ever rolled with?
Yes.
I mean, he's like an alien from a muscle planet.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, where'd you come from, muscle planet?
I mean, it's just like.
That fucking guy was so big in his prime.
His arms were so long, too.
I would give my car and cry, man, after practice.
You'd think you'd be getting better because you'd take like a week off
because you just didn't give a shit.
Yeah.
And then I'd be, you know, in the gym.
Because he was an electrical engineer.
In the gym seven days a week and he'd come in and just whoop my ass.
Now, when he got injured, you know, like how much did his injuries progress
and how did they progress?
Because I know he had a lot of back injuries.
He had a lot of back injuries.
Then he had a horrible neck.
And it was like when he fought Frank Mayer, he might have hit mitts three times.
He just couldn't do it.
Wow.
He was that fucked up.
When Shane Carlin fought Gabriel Gonzaga, that was like his very first big test.
And he knocked him out like this.
He just went boop and knocked Gabriel Gonzaga out.
After he got tagged and he got his nose broken.
Yes, exactly.
But when Shane was getting ready for that fight, and I've seen a ton of fighters, man, in my time.
A ton.
The best in the world.
That was the best heavyweight I've ever seen in my life.
Shane was about 255, shredded.
It looked like you shaved a silverback gorilla and put boxing gloves on him.
And I had to be his main training partner.
I was like, shit.
I had to give myself a pep talk in the car.
I was talking myself up like, you can
do this, bro. Just get in there.
Just get through it.
But I've never... His speed,
his quickness, his cardio was good.
He hit so hard.
And they'd be like, hey, we got other guys
for Shane today. I'd be like, thank God, because I don't have to go one round
with him. These other guys would go in, I'd just
sit back and be like, yes.
He would knock everybody
out man in training in training now did at grudge was there too much of that going on at grudge
uh i would say at yes big smile before you answer i would say but you know what you know what that
was the thing that like back then i think every gym was like that because i go down before you
knew better before i go down to jackson's and all we would do is punch each other in the face.
That's all we did.
It's a weird thing because a lot, you know who criticizes a lot of that is Ernesto Hoost.
Ernesto Hoost was talking about gyms that do that.
And he's like, it's ridiculous.
It's horrible.
Because it just causes damage.
It doesn't make you better.
It's not necessary.
It doesn't make you better.
What's doing it, it's taking out potential fight of the night
so you could have getting paid a lot of money for it.
Like on Friday, it's sparring day at Reign,
and there's a bunch of new guys there, tough, high-level guys.
And if they don't have headgear on, I won't spar them.
Really?
Not because a headbutt, if we both get head, you cut my eye.
Listen, man, I've got to fight in four weeks.
Beating you up does nothing for me.
I don't get paid to do this.
Well, they were wondering why.
As a vet now, I'll say something.
I'm like, nah, bro, get head gear.
We'll go next round or I'll roll with you or something.
They didn't really.
Somebody was talking about how when somebody gets knocked out five times or whatever,
they start getting a glass chin.
So you touch them, they go out.
And what they were saying was that the reason for that was that your brain,
when you get caught,
your brain will shut off. It's so
used to that. It goes, oh, danger time.
Don't want any more punishment. Gotta protect
itself. And will shut your body right off.
That's one theory. Well, Liddell explained
it to me. We were talking about it once
and he said that he just couldn't take
a shot anymore. And what it was because
he said he was, you know, he was he would grit his, he would bite down on his mouthpiece and cough it out and just absorb punishment.
And his brain knew when he was getting hit that he was going to do that.
His brain knew that he was going to absorb punishment.
So the brain's like, fuck you.
I'm going to take over.
And just shut off.
That's good though.
Yeah.
So when I said somebody.
That was you.
I don't know.
And I'm telling the story again.
All right.
So that's right, though. Yeah, so when I said somebody, that was you. And I'm telling the story again. All right, so that's right.
You know, Johnny Hendricks came out pretty publicly
and talked about how he didn't take head shots for that whole camp against Lawler.
Well, it's smart.
You see him in the cage there, and those guys are just trading back and forth.
You've got to save it for when it counts.
Save it for when it counts.
They do football, don't they?
They don't scrimmage.
Only certain guys because they're getting smarter.
Like Michigan, Ohio State, they don't hit during the season. In the NFL, you really don't hit. You don't scrimmage. Only certain guys because they're getting smarter. Like Michigan, Ohio State, they don't hit during the season.
In the NFL, you really don't hit.
You don't hit.
You're paying these athletes so much money.
Why the hell?
Listen, if you can't take a punch now or avoid a punch now,
you're not going to do it four weeks from now.
Exactly.
That's a very good point.
And your ability to take a punch a lot of times depends on how many punches
you've already taken.
I mean, we've all seen guys where they just, their chin starts to go.
We've all seen guys like that, where they just start to hit.
Did you see Pat Barry's last fight?
I did.
Pat Barry had never gotten knocked out before when he fought Czech Congo.
Czech Congo was the first time he ever went out.
That was a great fight.
It was a great fight.
But then he got knocked out there.
He got knocked out by Saul Pilelli.
He got knocked out by LeVar Johnson. He got knocked out by LeVar Johnson.
He got knocked out by Zach Mui Casa.
Holy shit, is that guy a beast.
What the hell?
What was that?
That's the Congo, son.
That's a dude who grew up in the fucking Congo.
That is the Congo.
What we were talking about, remember we were talking about Russians?
Yes.
Russians are scared of people from the Congo.
Because that's some next level shit.
Next level shit.
Those dudes who climb skyscrapers.
He's boxing gorillas.
He's boxing silverbacks.
In Russia, they're wrestling grizzly bears.
Here I am in Malibu playing grab ass with Bruce Jenner.
How am I going to do this?
How the fuck am I going to do this, man?
My kids are screwed.
I need training today, so I kick a jaguar in the balls.
Yeah.
Bro, when-
I kick a jaguar in the balls.
I DVR'd it And when I got home
I fast forward to Pat Berry's fight
And the dude he was fighting
I was like no
Who signed this fight
Why would you do that
Mui Casa has a
He's got a pretty good boxing background
Yeah
And you know
I think he was 12-1 as a pro
I like Pat Berry
But I hate when a guy says
I fight one round fights
So I fight one round fights
I'm out there to fight one-round fights.
Stop.
That's a mental weakness.
Stop saying that.
When I hear that, it's a mental weakness.
Well, not only that.
I understand that you want to be exciting.
I understand that.
But you're a fighter, and you're skillful.
That guy should be doing it.
He should be training at some high-level camp, some high-level Muay Thai camp.
You want to be a Muay Thai fighter?
Fucking go to Golden Glory.
Leave the MMA gym.
Go do, yes, exactly.
Go somewhere.
Pat was the guy who would walk into wrestling
and literally, you'd be like,
dude, did someone kill your dog on the way here?
He'd get to wrestling and just be like,
super sad, super sad.
And then he'd be like,
you know, he was the only other heavyweight.
He was the only other heavyweight.
So like, Shab, go with Pat.
I'm like, all right.
Come here, Mopey Myrtle.
Let's go.
Mopey Myrtle.
Let me show you a double leg.
Let's go.
This is how you avoid getting stuffed on your back.
Yes.
He just hated wrestling that much?
Dreaded it.
You know, he was doing wrestling and was like, you know what?
Fuck this.
And then was like, I'm retiring.
I don't want to do this anymore.
That's hilarious. I hear he's like to do this anymore. That's hilarious.
I hear he's like a really funny guy.
He's hilarious.
He's a great guy.
But for how much longer?
Real talker.
How much longer if he keeps getting knocked out like that?
You know, that's what I worry about.
A guy like that is a sweetheart.
He's a great guy.
He's tough as shit.
He puts on exciting fights.
I mean, when he knocked out the late, great Shane Del Rosario,
that was like one of my favorite heavyweight fights ever.
Yeah, I'll take some more.
You're not mad at this wine, by the way?
It's very good.
I'm not mad at this bulletproof coffee.
It's good.
It's the only reason I come.
Oh, yeah, you can't drink.
Somebody's in camp.
I swill wine like an aristocrat.
By the way.
That's one of the reasons why you can't pull back a 90-pound bow.
Your body's rejecting it.
Doesn't matter.
I got good taste buds.
My body's, I'm built for dance, I told you.
Your elbows.
Whatever. That's bullshit. You dance. Elbows. Whatever.
That's bullshit.
You gotta tell me afterwards.
I can do 28 jumps.
Okay.
You gotta tell me.
You gotta tell me.
Cool, man.
He can't do the bow.
He's like, I don't get it.
You could do it so easy.
You could do it easy, by the way.
Heavy weights.
I was all bunched up.
I was like.
Heavy weights.
How about pots with selling mouthpieces? That's how you got into the game. By the way, Sal? We were selling mouthpieces. I was like, huh. Heavyweights. How about Potts was selling mouthpieces?
That's how he got into the game.
By the way, Sal?
He was selling mouthpieces.
Really?
Potts and Sawa Pulele.
Sawa Pulele, he's not Samoan, is he?
How do you say his name?
Ruan Potts?
Let's put some volume up there.
Is he from Holland?
Where is he from?
Let's back it up so we can see how John Anik says his name.
And then fast forward so we're not out of line with all the people watching at home.
Soa might be, besides Bigfoot, the second biggest guy.
Back it up again.
What a badass.
I wish I was Simone.
Back it up again.
Ruan. Ruan. All right, fast forward now, and welcome to the big show, the heavyweight Ruan Potts.
Ruan.
Ruan.
All right, fast forward this shit.
Where is Ruan Potts from?
He lives next door to you.
He's fucking your wife right now.
Hey, man, I'm not there to videotape it?
Damn it.
What is this?
What is this?
Why does Fox News insist on putting hot chicks in dresses that talk about sports? I'm not mad about it.
I'm not mad about it either, but it makes me uncomfortable when my dick gets hard when I'm watching fights.
I'm like, what are you doing?
You're sending me mixed signals.
Then a guy, then a big sweaty Samoan comes on the screen.
You're like, oh no, I'm really confused.
I disagree with your political outlook, but my dick is hard, so I'm listening.
Got a hard on.
I want to argue with you and give you a better point than you're capable of making just so I can fuck you.
If you ever want to freak your friends out, just walk into the room with a hard-on.
Well, that's what they're trying to do when they're putting these women on Fox News.
I mean, look, not saying there's anything wrong with these women or that they're not intelligent.
They surely are.
That's how they got on.
Look, it's very difficult to get a job where you're a political correspondent or you're doing sports.
I mean, it's even harder for a woman to do sports than it is for a man because she's got to stand up to all the patriarchy,
all the bullshit that guys don't want to hear women talking about sports.
However, they're all hot.
Like, that's a fucking strategy.
They know what they're doing.
They're tricking us.
We can't have large Marge up there and be like, this just in, boys. Look at Wayne Newton's face.
Look at Wayne Newton's face.
Look at this.
Back that up real quick.
Back that up.
I need to see this.
Look at that face.
There's no need for that, Wayne.
Talk about a boner.
So here's the commercial.
There's all this.
Wayne Newton is spinning around.
That might be a wax figure.
The woman, who's hot as fuck, by the way, is excited that Wayne Newton stared at her.
Let it roll because he winks at her.
Look at him!
He winks at her.
And look, she gets excited.
No she doesn't!
You're not a good enough actor, ma'am.
You're not a good enough actor for that.
She touched her chest.
She touched her chest.
Frozen face zombie.
She did touch her face.
Gets your pussy moist.
No he does not.
He's a thousand years old and I know you want to get your SAG card, but there's better ways.
He's a vampire.
There's fucking better ways.
I was just impressed he was able to wink.
He barely. He had a fucking sweat.
It's like you doing squats.
Him winking is like you deadlifting
400 pounds.
Fight the Botox.
He had to psych himself up. Bro, I bet he has so many bitches in vegas it's not even i
don't think so i bet his black book's ridiculous he probably has so much money so if he has so
much money of course he has so many bitches in vegas there's so many lost confused people he
probably gets these girls to the show sings them a little song you know what i think at this point
in his career it's probably done i He's not even interested in that.
I disagree.
He's performing at Hooters Casino, though.
Does he?
Is he?
I don't know, but he's not on the big show.
Okay, well, let's find out where he is.
Well, he might still be, believe it or not.
Either way, he's going back to the villa and just having bitches.
It's one of those things like Tony Bennett where you pretend it's good.
Yeah, well, Tony Bennett can still sing.
Shut the fuck up.
If you have a choice between the Spearmint Rhino or going to see Tony Bennett.
I'm going to Tony Bennett.
Brian!
No, because I just feel like those girls, I feel sorry for them.
Most of them are nursing students.
WayneNewton.com.
Schedule.
Let's go to schedule.
You guys want to get boners in the meantime or no?
All right.
Oh, okay.
He might not even be in Vegas anymore
Because it says here
He's in Nebraska
517 Lindenwood University
Yep
Hooters Casino
Dude he took his shit
No he took his shit on the road
There's nothing wrong with that
But
Why are you defending Wayne Newton over there?
I have no idea
You're a contrarian man
But university is spelled wrong
It's university C-I-T-Y That's not how you spell university I have no idea. You're a contrarian, man. But university is spelled wrong.
It's university.
C-I-T-Y.
That's not how you spell university, is it?
Well, if it's Linwood University.
Brian, who you got in this fight?
I got the Samoan on principle.
Mr. Las Vegas World Tour, and he's going to some university in St. Charles, Missouri.
And then another place in Wisconsin. Bruce Buffer! So he's not in Vegas. You're right. He's not in St. Charles, Missouri. And then another place in Wisconsin.
Bruce Buffer!
So he's not in Vegas.
You're right.
He's not in Vegas.
Nobody wants to see that shit. Lake of the Torches Resort Casino, Locke du Flambe, Wisconsin.
Holy shit.
He just took his shit on the road.
He wishes he was at Hooters Casino.
Wow, he might not be in Vegas anymore.
I was giving him too much credit.
This is really true.
He really does wish he was in Vegas.
He still calls himself Mr. Vegas?
I don't know.
It's a good question, man.
It seems like he's not in Vegas anymore.
That's insane.
It's a shame, really.
So, Brendan, for the heavyweights, how much tougher is a heavyweight's chin versus the punching power?
What's that relation there?
You know what I mean?
People ask me this all the time.
I mean, besides Mark Hunt
and Roy Nelson, there's really no such thing. Everyone's been knocked out at heavyweight. I
mean, name a guy. He's been knocked out. All the top guys have really been knocked out. And if you
haven't, you're not fighting tough enough guys. Yeah. So if you say from middleweight to heavyweight,
how much more of a punch does it take? 20%, 30%?
It's tough to say.
It depends on the fighter.
But if Sowa lands a good jab here, it could knock him out.
Look at the size of Sowa.
A jab would knock the guy out.
Look at the size of his legs.
Oh, my God.
Brian, please control your ego.
Sorry, sorry.
He's a big boy.
Please put your back away.
I'm straight, but I'm just saying.
Sowa's a big boy.
Hands down.
That's a big man.
No hands, huh?
But he fell apart against Eddie Sanchez in his first fight in the UFC.
Just sheer adrenaline dump.
Because Ryan Parsons was very high on this guy.
He was saying, like, the guy's a beast.
He just had a hard time.
He just had a hard time dealing with the pressure.
The pressure's a motherfucker, right?
I mean, Brendan, do you feel like the pressure was that you had?
There's the guillotine you sold on.
What are we doing? When guys do that,
it drives me nuts. But Pilelli
has got his arm trapped. His arm's trapped,
but if it wasn't, he would come over. But I bet he
doesn't do that, because he's not a grappler.
Well, you know, he did mount
Pat Berry.
So did my brother.
But he did work with a lot of wrestlers.
He did work with a lot So did
Look at this
This guy's using this guillotine
He's using it to get back to half guard
You can use chin control to get to half guard
So it just gave him half guard
Yeah that's
So it just
And then he gave it back
He's still holding on to his neck
Look at him
He rolled him over with the neck
Oh my goodness
This is some blue belt level shit
There's a guillotine here
He's not even
Go for it
It's gonna be a horrible idea.
Pulled guard.
Brendan Shaw getting crazy.
Yeah, not a good move.
What level of jiu-jitsu?
When you compare, say, Metamorris, Abu Dhabi,
and then you watch grappling, like an average match in the UFC.
Give me some volume there, young Jamie.
How much difference do you think?
What would you say the average is?
In Metamorris, black belt.
In the UFC, the average is purple belt.
Really?
I would say the average is purple belt.
I would say this is blue belt what we're seeing.
This is low level.
Yes.
This is blue belt, but I think the average jiu-jitsu is purple.
On average, I'd say purple.
He doesn't have an arm bar.
Oh, he doesn't?
No, the elbows.
I meant triangle.
No, he doesn't have that either.
Yeah.
I was saying it was in the family, in that family.
Do you think the average is purple belt?
I'd say purple belt.
Purple belt, yeah.
I'd say purple belt.
But at 155, black belt.
Black belt, yeah.
155, 170.
Oh, boy.
How fucking good is Jim Miller's jiu-jitsu?
God damn it.
Oh!
Ron's out.
I didn't even see that.
Because Pilelli hits fucking hard as shit, man.
Ha!
Kiss him on the back of the head.
Wow.
What did he kiss?
The referee?
Yeah.
Good move.
Keith Peterson's a sexy bitch.
Yes, he is.
He's a good guy to kiss.
Pilelli, see?
Now, there's a guy that's getting comfortable in the UFC,
and you're getting to see what everybody saw from him in the gym.
Knee on belly, gets the mount.
Ding.
Oh, it was the left.
It was the left.
Oh, no.
And not even a lot behind it.
Oh, he kissed him.
Yeah.
Left underneath the arm.
Look at that.
Knee to the belly.
But check out the left.
But this is what everybody said about him.
The guy fucking hits wicked hard. Look at this. Bump. That left hand. Look at the belly. But check out the left. But this is what everybody said about him. The guy fucking hits wicked hard.
Look at this.
Bump.
That left hand.
Look at the eyes.
That one eye open.
Oh, God.
He's seeing all kinds of shit that you used to see when you were a little kid.
When you saw those cartoons where a guy got hit in the head with a frying pan.
The birds would fly around.
I think I saw that in the jungle.
That's no fun.
Soa has the best of record, man. We'll talk about that tomorrow. Soa's like 21 and 3 now, I think I saw that in the jungle. That's no fun. Sowa has an impressive record, man.
We'll talk about that tomorrow.
Sowa's like 21-3 now, I think.
Yeah.
Impressive record.
Most of it's outside the UFC, so I don't really care.
But does Sowa do the haka?
Because I can only get behind him if he does the haka.
My favorite thing.
I watch the All Blacks haka all the time.
It fires me up.
If you're ever feeling sorry for yourself,
if you're having a fucking pity party,
watch a YouTube of a haka.
Nobody wants to be Samoan more than me.
So, you know.
I may or may not
have written my own haka.
Really? You can't do that.
Unless you go to battle or
swim across the ocean in a
dugout canoe, you're not allowed to make your own haka.
No one's ever seen it. I realized that I couldn't do anything
with it, but I tried.
It's all right, man.
It's all right.
I was motivated.
I was fired up.
I watched a little Khal Drogo
in Game of Thrones.
I was fired up.
Joe, if you think
Jiu-Jitsu's at a purple belt level,
overall,
we're talking all weight classes,
what would you say
striking's at?
Purple belt as well.
I'd say, yeah.
I mean, if you pay attention
to like,
look at high level boxing,
look at high level Muay Thai, look at high level kickboxing.
And the difference between kickboxing and Muay Thai, for folks who don't know, if you're watching like Glory, what they're not allowed to do in Glory, and I love Glory, but what they're not allowed to do is elbows to the head and they're not allowed to clinch and throw knees.
But Muay Thai, that's a big part of Muay Thai.
And it also protects fighters and in a good
instance a good example rather a guy like John Wayne Parr multiple time Muay Thai champion but
not really allowed to use his full skill set when he fights in glory and I'm a fan of why is that
why because glory has decided they want to go the k-1 route. And what K-1 decided was they used to let you clinch with two hands,
but then Alistair started kneeing guys into oblivion,
so they changed two hands to one hand.
Sakuraba?
Yeah.
Sakuraba fought in K-1?
It was – who did he fight where he broke his chin?
Sakuraba broke his chin?
Overeem did it to him. No, no, Overeem never fought Sakuraba broke his chin? Overeem did it to him.
No, no, Overeem never fought Sakuraba.
I think you're thinking of Melvin
Manhoof. No, no.
Fought Sakuraba?
Sakuraba only fought
MMA. He never fought Muay Thai.
Maybe it was MMA, but it was in the clinching
he broke his chin. Sorry.
I'm not sure what fight that was. I mean, Sakuraba
has taken some fucking brutal beatings in his time.
But the bottom line is that you're not as able to defend yourself if you're fighting in kickboxing.
Because kickboxing, you have all these other things that you can do.
You know, you can grab the plum.
You can shove your head up into the side of his head and really control
that clinch and knee to the body and trip and throw him to the ground there's
all these different things that you could do like if you watch the only
promotion in America that allows that is lion fights and you can watch that on
access TV great great great fights I love watching that and you we see some
really like high-level Muay Thai you see all the elbows you see the
there's there's all these tools that guys are allowed to use and stand up in MMA that you can't
use in dream or you can't you or rather you can't use in K1 and you can't use in glory one of the
most confusing things I ever saw was watching fights in Bangkok and Samui in Thailand because
the rule system there for the Muay Thai fight first of all it's epic because everybody in the
audience is betting
the whole time
and by the way
they will do
like in first round
a lot of times
because they bet
on things like
how many round
houses are going
to be on the
right side
they do all kinds
of stuff
so if you're
betting on your
guy your guy
will get that
note
and he'll actually
so that you
can never tell
how somebody's
going to do,
how good a fighter somebody is by watching their first round.
Yeah.
Because a lot of times, the fix is in.
A lot of bets came in after that.
Yes.
But you would watch these fights, and there'd be some, the crowd would go crazy for a knee to the body,
like crazy for a knee to the body or a kick to the leg or something like that.
And then you'd see like an American guy in there, an English guy, I don't know, white guy in there,
and he would just start
and later on just start lighting somebody up with
punches to the face. Hook, cross,
uppercut, and you're like, oh shit,
oh shit, but I'm the only one yelling.
And then at the end of the fight, I'm like, man, that guy
kicked the other guy's ass.
It's the Thai guy who landed more
knees that wins.
Not Sakuraba, Fujita.
Did you see that?
No, I did not.
He fought Overeem.
Overeem, what he did was-
Oh, that back kick was nice.
Yeah, that was Eddie Wineland, and he knocked out.
He's going to fight TJ Dillashaw in that.
Boy, TJ.
Such a good back kick.
Yeah, that's Hennon Burau.
He might be the best pound-for-pound guy on the planet.
Burau's phenomenal.
If he's not the best, he's close to it.
Yep.
But TJ by Japanese necktie. Oh,us, phenomenal. If he's not the best, he's close to it.
TJ by Japanese necktie.
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Wouldn't that be crazy? That'd be dope.
That'd be dope.
I showed it to him at the honor headquarters.
Did you really?
I couldn't believe he didn't know it.
He's never seen it?
No.
Neither did TJ didn't know it.
Neither did Danny Castillo.
Neither one of those guys knew it.
Imanari in the Japanese necktie.
You rolled with him?
Yeah. Well, I those guys knew it. Imanari and the Japanese necktie. You rolled with him? Yeah.
Well, I showed him some techniques.
Well, the only tapping was that, and then I just put him in rubber guard,
and I asked him to escape, and then I got him in the Imanari.
Do you know the Imanari?
I was trying to show Whitney.
I don't know the names to a lot of Bravo stuff.
Well, Imanari is not Bravo's.
It's Imanari's technique.
It's basically an omoplata where you finish with a neck crank.
You go for the omoplata.
When you got the guy, you know how you got a guy flattened out and you got the seatbelt?
Yeah.
You grab the neck.
Pull back like that.
It's a fucking devastating move.
I'll pull it up for you.
Imanari's a-
Or you could just do it to me.
No, I'll show you.
Just do it to me. Or you could just do it. I'm more of I'll show you. Just do it to me.
Or you could just do it.
I'm more of a visual guy.
Why'd your voice get so teared?
Raspi.
My dick got harmed.
Oh, God.
Boners everywhere.
This podcast is the best.
But confusing.
Implata with a boner.
Google Iminari Omoplata neck crank.
There's a video of it.
It's pretty fucking dope, dude.
He really knows how to do it.
And he invented this.
I never saw anybody do it
before Imanari did it.
We got some videos of you teaching that on YouTube, too.
Oh, is that on its YouTube?
I'm pretty sure, yeah.
Better get on it.
Yeah, I asked
Danny if he had ever seen it before
and then I strangled him with it.
I asked him to get out of rubber guard.
He couldn't get out of rubber guard.
Because if a guy's got a good mission control, it's pretty surprising.
You get in a guy like Eddie Bravo's guard and try to get out of it.
You're completely clamped down.
But the thing about it is that you don't know where you're in danger.
You don't know which move.
There's so many nontraditional attacks from that position.
But Imanari figured out this dope S-grip neck crank.
You just reach under the chin with the S-grip,
and you really can't fucking defend it because your right arm,
totally trapped in the omoplata,
right? You're attacking the shoulder. And he's just sitting up.
Just sitting up, getting an S-grip
on the neck, anywhere around the neck, and
just yanking
that motherfucker back. It's essentially
your entire core, all
the weight of your back and everything on the
unprotected neck. There's not a lot you can do
to defend it. Omoplata's are hard to finish at heavyweight.
Danny was not too pleased. Very hard to finish at heavyweight. I get there a lot, and at heavyweight, I feel like it's even worse. Guys's not a lot you can do to defend it. Uma Blount is hard to finish at heavyweight. Danny was hard to finish at heavyweight.
I get there a lot, and at heavyweight, I feel like it's even worse.
Guys are so big, they get plushed out.
What is the one jiu-jitsu move that gets...
That Imanari, man, is dope.
Have they done a stat on what the one jiu-jitsu move in the UFC,
the most successful?
Guillotine. Guillotine.
What about the second one?
As far as submission rate, I'd say Guillotine, because more people know it.
A lot of guys aren't going to pull off all these crazy stuff. It's 100%. What about the second one? As far as submission rate, I'd say guillotine because more people know it. Yeah.
A lot of guys aren't going to pull off all these crazy stuff. You know what would be interesting is the chat rear naked chokes because that's been on a steady decline.
Ah, rear naked choke and guillotine's up there.
I don't know.
It's hard with the gloves.
It's been on a decline, yeah.
The gloves is what makes it hard, man.
It's almost now people have to be dazed for you to see someone finish it.
Yeah, or they have to be giving up.
Like Cowboy Cerrone when he had a Barbosa daze. Then he goes in someone finish it. Yeah, or they have to be giving up. Like Cowboy Cerrone when he had Barboza days.
Then he goes in and gets it.
TJ, do the job.
Come on, TJ.
Let's do this shit.
Tough.
That's going to be a good one.
That's a crazy fight, man.
That's going to be a crazy fight.
Oh, there's Imanari pulling it off on that fight.
Look at that.
On that TV.
Pull back it up a little bit, Jamie, so we can get a look at it. As the guy rolls. It's a repeating gif. Look at this. See how he gets it? Look at that. On that TV. Pull back it up a little bit, Jamie, so we can get a look at it. As the guy rolls.
It's a repeating gif. Look at this.
See how he gets it? Look at that. What
in the world is that? Look at that.
What is that? That is so nasty.
Oh, no. That's bad, man.
Let me do it to you, Brian. I'll show you. No way.
It's death. It's hot death. Notice how I went away.
If you got a neck problem now,
fucking kill your sperm count
with that. That's just terrible.
That's literally how you break your fucking body. It's a beautiful technique, hey. If you've got a neck problem now, fucking kill your sperm count with that. Forget that. That just looks terrible. I mean, that's literally how you break your fucking body in half.
It's a beautiful technique, though.
It's super effective and very rarely done.
It's from Omoplata, and you just grab his head like that.
Well, especially if the guy's trying to release your legs to try to save his arm.
Oh, my God.
Because you kind of give up.
Your right arm is trapped.
Now, there he gets underneath the chin.
No, thanks.
But you don't have to anywhere around the face.
But you don't have to because it's a crank.
It's basically a neck crank.
And you're breaking a spine.
I mean, it's just a horrible, horrible position.
You're putting so much pressure on the discs.
It's just horrible.
It's horrible.
That's sweet, man.
Neck problems for the rest of your life.
You can do it, man.
I mean, I'll show you after the podcast the setup.
It's super, super clean.
Look at that beautiful back kick.
And it's one of those techniques where it's there the
whole time but nobody does it so I like the Japanese neck tie that neck tie
where a lot of guys want to get the d'Arce they can't get the d'Arce they
don't know that neck ties right there the whole time you know that right you
do that Japanese neck tie I'm familiar we should go over that your d'Arce is
fucking nasty man that d'Arce you hit Mitrione with that was locked down tight
that was bank vault tight yeah d' darts, that's just forever.
You know how things just come to you?
For whatever reason, I see darts everywhere.
For whatever reason, as soon as I started doing jiu-jitsu,
they show me the darts, and then I was just right away.
It was just something they showed me once, and it was in my tool.
That's interesting.
There's some guys that just like certain techniques really click with them.
It's so weird.
Yeah, weird like Paul Sass triangles.
Bang, bang, bang, bang. That's his thing this thing that guy you get caught in Paul sasses guard
You get a fucking get out of there and run that motherfucker will triangle this shit out of you
It's weird other guys that triangles just dog shit weak
You could find a way to get a high level guys to that like I'll do Darcy's on guys
Super high level guys, and then I'm like you're not a dark He's like, no. Like, they don't even mess with it.
They don't even care to mess with it.
I don't understand that.
They do arm bars or whatever.
I don't understand that.
D'Arce is such a potent weapon.
Such a potent weapon.
Especially in MMA.
The reason I developed it a lot is because with Shane Carlin,
I was shooting in on me.
I had to come up with something.
Right.
So it was guillotines and D'Arces.
Had to come up with something out of desperation.
I would attack his feet, and he'd just punch me in the face.
Can't get enough of that back kick.
Burrell's a beast, man. He's a motherfucker, dude.
He is as good as it gets.
Longest undefeated winning streak in
MMA. Is that true? That's crazy.
That's true. At that weight
class too. 38, I think, right?
Something crazy. Let's find out.
I would say it's 36, 38.
Well, when your training partner is Jose Aldo.
No, the thing is the weight class he's in.
He's fighting black belts in everything.
Everything.
It's hard to even comprehend that long of a fight streak.
As a fighter, to me, that's insane.
With that kind of speed and stuff, too, like where everybody's fast.
He's got a lot of length.
Yeah, let's see.
How about Daniel Cormier, who is about 5'1", picking dudes up,
and just look at that.
He's not 5'1".
No, I know.
He's like 5'8", though, 5'9".
He's not that much taller than that.
He's 5'11".
That's absolutely a lie.
I stood next to him.
I towered over him.
He was like, man, you're tall.
I was like, thanks, man.
He goes, I love your work.
That never happened.
He never said that.
He goes, you're my favorite actor. I was like, thank you. I was like, that's so sweet. And you're way more I was like, thanks, man. He goes, I love your work. That never, that never. He never said that. He goes, you're my favorite actor.
I was like,
thank you.
I was like,
that's so sweet.
And you're way more athletic in person.
I was like,
I know,
I wrestled in high school.
Six feet tall.
Go fuck yourself.
That's it,
you're out of here.
Mine.
Six feet tall.
I was towering.
I was literally eating peanuts
off his head.
You were wearing stilts.
I was.
That's true.
That part is true.
You were wearing women's shoes.
I do wear,
I do.
Oh,
this is a good fight.
This is a good fight.
Neil Magny and Tim Means
is a good fucking fight.
Neil Magny,
I strained with in Denver.
We used to call him the gazelle because this kid's cardio is insane.
Insane, man.
That guy has fangs.
He's so tough.
He's really tough.
Tim Means is so tough.
And Means is an animal, too.
Both guys are animals.
And both guys are very similar.
Real tall guys for 55.
And Means, he knocked out Pete Spratt at 170, man.
Listen, the difference between Means and Magny, and Magny's my boy,
but the difference is Means is just nasty, and he switches things up.
Like you'll see Neal, his movement's great,
but it's more of like a point scoring system for him.
He's just touching.
Like Neal, I don't think he's ever knocked anyone out in his life. All he's doing
is beating you off points. You'll see
a jab, a right hand jab, right hand,
and he's just moving the whole time.
Means does not play that, man.
Means reminds me of a Carlos Condit.
Isn't that interesting that that's one of the reasons
why Magny can keep going forever
and ever? It's just like that he's
not putting 100% into everything.
That's a weird thing, isn't it?
Where you're not totally 100% committing to techniques,
but you can keep going for way longer with that.
What do you think about that?
You have to have a mix of that.
You have to.
You look at the guys at the top, there's a mix.
Right.
You can't go full blast.
For instance, if we look at the fights recently, look at Travis Brown.
And I talked to Verdum last Tuesday about this.
Verdum said every shot that Travis was throwing had bad intentions,
knockout power.
He was trying to knock him out in one shot.
He wasn't putting combos together.
It makes for a high level.
That's not going to work, man.
Right.
Guys see it, and they're getting out of the way
and they're going to take you down.
You said it was
you said it was
you said about Travis Brown
you said there's no method
there's no method to the madness.
You said
like he's
there's nothing behind
there's no strategy behind
Listen you can't put
you can't floor your car
in seventh gear
and just
it's going to burn out.
You just can't do it.
You have to use all the gears
and the guys
at the very highest level are using all the gears.
Like look at Dos Santos.
He comes out very relaxed, jab, jab, and then you're going to see a big shot,
and he's back down to second gear.
But he's not chilling at seventh gear like Shane Carlin.
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
I would say first gear.
Not first gear.
He's more chilling third gear.
But, yeah, I know what you're saying.
Yeah, I think that there's some...
It's not good.
Yeah.
It's not good.
There's some guys who do fight like that, though.
They just explode, explode, explode, explode, explode.
And then by the time the third round comes, you're like...
At a high level, guys are like, cool, we're going to drag his ass to the third round.
The third round, we're going to go to work and submit this fool.
That's why I was really interested to see what would happen with Tyron Woodley and Carlos Condit.
I agree.
But unfortunately for Condit.
You're going to see it in Roy McDonald, though.
Roy McDonald drags us.
Yeah.
UFC 174.
Maybe.
I know, maybe.
If he can survive the onslaught.
Look, Woodley is so fucking fast and strong.
So athletic, man.
You should see this guy in the gym hit mitts.
No, I didn't want to see it.
I'm scared.
It's insane.
Keep me up at night.
Bro, it's insane.
I almost spit in my life.
I don't want to see it.
And he might place third in Mr. Olympia right now.
Best body I've ever seen.
Why would you wear clothes when you walk to the grocery store?
It's ridiculous.
Just wear a bandana.
Just to keep his feather from dragging on the car.
Forget it.
I hope.
Bro, I saw him hit mitts with his trainer Arnold from wild card.
Real Pete had some tight valley tuto shorts on.
God bless him.
No shirt.
I had things to do.
I just chill.
Watched him in mitts.
Man.
I had things to do.
I had things to do, man.
How often is he at wild card?
What's up?
He's not an LA guy.
How often is he out here?
He's out here because striking coach Arnold is at a wild card.
Arnold.
So he's out here all the time.
Funny thing about Arnold, I met Arnold doing-
Stunt director, right?
Yeah, I was an extra in a B movie with Heath Haring.
And Heath Haring was beating me up and stealing my girlfriend in the movie.
And Arnold was the stunt coordinator.
What's Heath doing now?
He's playing poker?
He's playing poker.
Heath Haring is?
Yeah.
I used to have-
Heath Haring is playing poker?
Yeah.
He's got more round shirts.
What a fucking legit wild man Heath Haring was.
I'll never forget his fight with Tom Erickson.
Tom Erickson was on top of him, dominating him,
and he was getting tired, and they stood him up in pride.
And when they stood him up, Heath Haring just goes,
Woo!
Fucking slaps his hands together.
And Erickson was like, Oh, fucking Christ.
And he just charged after hearing and
smashed him when I kissed him classic at the fucking stare down right now he
shook his head before he punched him to he thought about it yes suspended that's
dope that's been they probably gave him some money to these guys are very Fuck this. Boom! He got suspended. That was dope.
They probably gave him some money too.
These guys are very similar,
but the difference in this fight will be
Tim Means just has a nasty, nasty streak.
Oh, this is 170.
Means has been fighting at 55 though,
has he not?
He's been fighting in the MFC.
But before that, when he fought in the UFC,
I believe he's fighting... Look at thisFC. But before that, when he fought in the UFC, I believe he's fighting.
Look at this look.
What are we doing?
He does remind me of Carlos Comet.
Right?
Yeah, he's fought in lightweight.
Or me.
He's fought in lightweight quite a few times.
I'm going to get some tattoos.
That's what you're looking like.
What kind of tattoos should I get, guys?
You should get a dove.
Yeah, he fought Danny Castillo.
You should get a big dick on your chest like Brock Lesnar.
And a dove.
A dove with a dick flying through it.
He lost twice in the UFC at lightweight.
He lost against Masvidal, and he lost against Danny Castillo.
So I think that he was having a hard time making that weight.
And why would he?
He's only 6'2".
These crazy assholes.
Magni's 6'3", bro.
I know.
These crazy fuckers that drop all that weight.
Those are my boys, Lorlando and the Bat.
6'3", 170, and he's got muscle on him.
That's crazy.
I mean, that's...
Magny's reach is insane.
Yeah.
Like I said, the differences, these guys are very similar, same size.
Magny has great footwork, but Tim Means just has this killer instinct.
Where's Magny out of?
Jackson?
Denver.
No, Denver.
Yeah, Means is like a dirty mountain boy.
Means is like, you want to go to the ground?
Cool.
Does not care where it goes, man.
He just wants to finish the fight.
The Magni will not get tired, huh?
Nope.
Means has got real good head movement, too.
I like how he, that long reach.
Another thing that people don't talk about, about long reach.
His good kicks.
Yeah, but the long reach, the ability to bend at the waist and move away from shit.
That's one of the things that Jon Jones does so well.
Best in the world.
Moving away from shit. Not's one of the things that Jon Jones does so well. Moving away from shit.
Not getting hit.
I guarantee you the game plan here for
Neil Magny is don't. As soon as you
hit the cage, get off.
You're going to see him circling.
Constantly circling. It's interesting how
different body types have different advantages.
You got that Husamar Paul
Hares body. What?
That is just a huge advantage.
Made for ripping off legs?
Ripping a hold of legs.
If you watch his fight with Ivan Salivary,
basically anything he does in grappling,
he's just so ridiculously strong.
He just came out of his mom and put her in an ankle lock?
Just a ridiculous dude.
Did you ever see a video of him rolling with Mayhem Miller?
Yeah.
I talked to Mayhem about that.
Mayhem said he was really hungover, though.
Yeah, whatever, whatever. I would say that, too, if I got fucking hip-toss talked to Mayhem about that. Mayhem said he was really hungover, though. Yeah, whatever, whatever.
I would say that, too, if I got fucking hip-tossed and strained like that.
Well, and Mayhem is such a monster, you know, for a guy like me.
Paul Har is a scary guy.
Me and Dove Davidoff tried to fight Mayhem one time.
We tried to grab him, and he...
Ooh, good jab.
See, I like this moving out of Neal.
But, like I said, you see what I mean by point sparring?
It's just jab, move, jab, move, jab, move. There's no bad intentions. Yeah, he's not loading up. I like this moving out of Neil. But like I said, you see what I mean by point sparring?
It's just jab, move, jab, move, jab, move.
There's no bad intentions.
Yeah, he's not loading up on anything.
So what's the difference between his style and like the Diaz brothers then?
Because they kind of have that style. Well, the Diaz brothers load up eventually.
But they'll pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, boom, boom to the body.
Diaz is almost like a machine gun.
It's like for five rounds.
They also seem like high-level boxers in comparison.
Well, Diaz has an incredible chin, especially Nick.
They just come forward.
They just keep coming.
Nick has an incredible chin.
And it eventually just wears guys out.
Well, Frank Shamrock said it best when he fought Nick Diaz.
He's like, you can't breathe because he's always hitting you.
And every time he hits you, you tighten up.
Because even if it's only a 50% shot, you still have to hold your breath.
And then he rips you to the body, and then you're just never breathing.
And he's landing 80% of those 50 shots.
It's crazy, man.
And he does triathlons.
And he swam back from Alcatraz twice.
Come on, stop it.
Yes, he did.
Are you kidding?
Shark-infested waters.
He's out of his mind.
I love that guy more than I love that guy.
I asked him to come on the podcast.
I just don't believe he'll show up.
I would have him on. I love that fucking guy
like I love my mother, but I would only
have him on if I had a backup guest.
I'm coming. Please, please, please.
They took his brother
out of the rankings, huh? Yeah, I don't know
about all that. I don't know what that was all about.
That bothers me. He just doesn't want to fight, huh?
No, he wants more money.
He wants more money because he found out what Gilbert got.
Because Gilbert's his buddy.
And there was a contract negotiation with Gilbert.
Bellator was trying to pick up Gilbert when his contract was over.
And they gave Gilbert a shit ton of money.
And Nate is like, what the fuck?
And so there's some sort of contract negotiation.
And I think there's also...
You can't be mad at that.
They should pay Nate. Nate's awesome.
I love Nate, and I agree, but I don't know
who his manager is. I don't know who
negotiated his contract. I don't know what the
deal is. But a deal's a deal's a deal's
a deal. You gotta stick to it, guys.
Nice takedown by Neal.
You know, it's one of those things where
you talk publicly, you talk shit about the
UFC, and... You're not gonna win, man.
What motivation do they have to give you more money?
Well, the other thing is, too, is guys forget there's no bigger guy than the UFC.
The UFC's going to keep on.
The circus keeps on going.
If one of the elephants fall out, the circus keeps on going, man.
How about Eddie Alvarez backing out of the fucking Michael Chandler?
Oh, Bellator's first pay-per-view?
Whoops.
It's gone.
It's gone.
It's going to evaporate. There's not going to be a pay-per-view? Whoops. It's gone. It's gone. It's going to evaporate.
There's not going to be a pay-per-view.
No, they're still doing it.
They found a backup, right?
Some guy filled in.
I've never heard of him.
That's the problem.
Oh, no.
Are you serious?
And now you want people's money?
This is a really strange fight because it almost looks like they're sparring and it doesn't matter.
They just don't look as intense.
Oh, I told you it's a lot of point sparring.
Yeah.
They just don't look that.
It's interesting.
Tim Means is a slow starter, too.
Yeah, Tim Means doesn't seem concerned about any low kicks whatsoever.
He's just kind of.
Oh.
By the way, this might be one of my favorite podcasts ever.
Just hanging out watching fights, ladies and gentlemen.
Four guys watching fights.
Just four guys with their pants on.
Oh!
Magni tagged him.
Nice left by Magni.
Now you should have kept.
Book means fucking hanging in there, man.
I'm sorry, Brian, are you coaching Magni right now?
No, I wasn't.
You should have.
See, I stopped myself.
I was like, hold on.
Brian and I have conversations, and they're not nearly as frustrating to me as they must be to you.
Brian and I have conversations.
I just sit on the outside and call the fights.
But Brian and I have conversations and I go,
that's not how it works.
Last weekend.
Why don't guys just crescent kick?
There's no crescent kicks.
You haven't seen my crescent kick.
Last weekend during the Mayweather fight,
I had to look over at him.
I go, hey, bro, do you mind just shutting the fuck up for two rounds for me?
And he goes, nah, nah, nah.
Can't shut up, bro.
You need my point of view.
Magni's up 1-0 for sure.
I want to get a shirt that says Venom.
So get a dove, huh?
How about Venom as a...
I need a good tattoo.
You do need a couple tats.
I have a problem.
The only problem that I have with Bellator, the only problem is that there's not cross fights.
What do you mean?
You know how if a Bob Arum promoted fighter wants to fight a Golden Boy promoted fighter,
they figure out a way to make it happen.
Except for Pacquiao Mayweather.
Except for Pacquiao Mayweather.
And arguably that might be Mayweather.
He doesn't want to fight Pacquiao.
No, I heard otherwise.
Good Pacquiao?
Yes. Didn't want to fight Mayweather?
Didn't want to do the drug test.
Oh. I don't know about that.
I don't know. It might be true.
I mean, total complete speculation
that also could be propaganda
from the Mayweather camp. I'm not inside
enough to speculate. However,
What were you saying, though, about matchmaking?
Where there's smoke, there's fire. So many people
have said that Pacquiao is doing something.
When a guy moves up one weight class, you go, well, that's normal.
The guy's growing.
When a guy moves up eight weight classes.
And knocks bitches out.
That's a lot.
It's like, that's weird.
Speaking as a guy who's actually done steroids, I would say maybe he's done some steroids.
I'd say maybe he has.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I used to take this shit called Mag-10 that you used to buy at GNC.
Out of all the shit I've done, testosterone replacement, all the shit I've done, Mag10
was the craziest shit ever.
I couldn't believe you could buy it.
Really?
Is that the shit like Mark McGuire and all the guys are taking?
No, no, no.
They would take androstenedione.
I don't know what this Mag10 was, but they made it illegal quick.
Really? I did a cycle with it.
I grew tits.
My dick was as hard as a telephone pole.
The cat couldn't scratch it.
It was unbelievable.
I've never had roid rage with anything that I've ever done because I'm a pretty calm guy.
But the closest I ever got to roid rage is this shit.
On that stuff, huh?
You would take 10 pills a day.
You would buy it at the store and take 10 pills a day.
And I was like, how could I gain 10?
10 pills a day?
I gained 10 pounds of muscle in six weeks.
That's not healthy.
And I'm not joking.
No, it's totally not healthy.
Well, here's how I know it's not healthy.
Because when I stopped taking it, my dick just went, hey, I'm going camping.
I'll see you.
My dick was like, hey, I quit. I quit. My dick wasn't normal for, I'm going camping. I'll see you. My dick was like, hey, I quit.
I quit.
My dick wasn't normal for a month and a half.
Internet searches for Mag 10 just went through the fucking roof.
I know, I know, I know.
Well, it's not legal.
You can't buy it anymore.
Okay, let me see if I can find it.
If anybody finds Mag 07, it just makes you shit.
So don't get excited.
You'll find that in the store.
It's not the same thing.
And that's the thing that I'll say that I did
steroids because I did this.
Even though it's not
considered a steroid because you could buy it at
GMC. GNC, rather.
It's fucking steroids, man.
Biotest Mag10.
It doesn't
exist anymore.
You can't buy it anymore.
2001.
2001.
It's illegal now.
Yeah.
It was incredible.
Might have been the greatest thing
I've ever taken in my life.
It's 10 pounds of muscle.
I'm sure you didn't take the daily recommended dose.
I did.
Well, the daily recommended dose,
whatever it did, turned you into a fucking monkey.
It was crazy.
I can't figure out what the game plan is for either one of these guys.
I was recovering from an ACL injury.
So I was taking it.
At the same time I was taking it, I was really lifting really heavy because I couldn't do any jiu-jitsu.
Yeah, yeah, all upper body.
Lower body, for the first couple months, all I was doing was bodyweight squats,
just very light, trying to increase my flexibility and all that.
Tim Means, all over him, man.
I like his nickname too, Dirty Bird.
Dirty Bird.
Dirty Bird just said, sponsors?
Nah, I'm good.
You know what I like about Magneto?
I'm good.
Put my Dirty Bird logo on the back.
He's kneeing the back of his legs. You know what I like about Magnum? I'm good. Put my Dirty Bird logo on the back. He's kneeing the back of his legs.
You know what I like about Bellator?
Jimmy Smith.
That motherfucker.
Great guy.
And fucking on point as a commentator.
Clear. He's very clear.
Very clear.
Knows his shit.
Black belt in jujitsu.
Damn, means hitting him with the head.
Knees to the head when he was on the ground.
Come on, ref.
What the fuck, man?
I think he was up.
He definitely got one in while his hand was down.
One or two for sure.
It's a tricky thing, man. I don't like that
knee to the ground thing. Knee on the ground
fighter. You can kind of sit there, right?
It's very tricky. You can job the system
by touching your hand and lifting it up
and touching your hand and lifting it up. That doesn't make
sense for fighting to me. No.
I think the knees to the head
for a grounded opponent should be legal
unless a part of your body
is touching the cage.
Why did they make that illegal?
Because it's dangerous?
This is where I think
it should be illegal.
When a guy's got his head
pressed up against the cage,
you can't go anywhere.
You can't move.
That's why I like soccer kicks
and stomps and pride
because you could always
spin your head around
and go under the cage
to avoid the technique.
You know why I don't think they ever make that legal?
Because America's not ready for it.
They think the sport's too violent as it is now.
Then the terrorists win.
The terrorists win.
You can't punt somebody's head like a soccer ball.
But why not?
It would hurt.
It would hurt.
Give me some of that fancy wine, son.
You would get unwanted press.
Yeah, but I don't believe in unwanted press.
I think it's bullshit as long as you can debate it.
Why should you be allowed to wheel kick a guy in the head
but you can't soccer kick him?
I agree.
Probably because a wheel kick is harder to get off.
Did you ever see Mirko Krokop straight soccer kick Ron Waterman in the face?
Oh, God.
Horrific.
A little story about Ron Waterman.
Choked me out with his titties when I was a white belt.
Literally put my face between his tits and choked me out.
Come on, really?
Unconscious?
Unconscious or you tapped?
I tapped.
But he almost broke my nose.
He almost broke my nose.
He was a big fuck.
And he was doing it for Jesus.
Real set of tits on him, though.
Hurt my nose.
Set of tits.
And he was choking you for Jesus, right?
Huge.
Choked me for Jesus.
Did he give you a cross afterwards or maybe a Bible book?
He gave me a little pep talk.
Slap on the ass, give me a pep talk. After he kissed you. Bought me a sandwich. Did he give you a cross afterwards or maybe a Bible? He gave me a little pep talk. Slap on the ass, give me a pep talk.
After he kissed you.
Bought me a sandwich.
Did he?
I was super embarrassed.
How many times have you been?
Don't worry, brother.
He did that to me before.
Look at that sandwich.
The KFC thing that they're promoting, that Double Down.
I'm a big fan of that.
Hell no.
I'm a big fan.
I haven't had fast food in almost 12 years.
You don't need to have it.
You know, there's a place in Montreal called Joe Beef, and they did a variation on the
Double Down.
Ready for this?
Two chunks of foie gras.
Oh, my God.
Two pieces of deep fried duck liver in between bacon and cheese.
And it might be the best thing I've ever had in my life.
You know what?
I wonder if they have that in-
I don't like shitting my pants, so I don't eat that stuff.
I do not eat that stuff. Foie gras? Bro, you want to shit your pants? Okay, I don't, shitting my pants, so I don't eat that stuff. I do not eat that stuff.
Bro, you want to shit your pants?
Okay, I don't, but go ahead.
Thanks.
Hey, thanks.
No.
Good question.
Good question.
Absolutely not.
If you want to shit your pants, drink a shitload of coconut oil.
Okay.
MCT oil.
Sure.
Oh, I drink that shit every day.
Not a heavy dose. Heavy dose in the morning. I have to run back. Sure. Oh, I drink that shit every day. Not a heavy dose.
Heavy dose in the morning.
I have to run back.
I'll head to the gym.
I have to run back.
Nothing has made me rocket shit out of my asshole like kale shakes.
I drink a kale shake in the morning.
Those don't bother me.
Those don't bother me.
For me.
It doesn't bother me, but it's basically like forcing Roto-Rooter down the drain.
Well, they say you're not supposed to drink too many kale shakes,
too many spinach shakes and things because it's a big leafy green vegetable.
There's a lot of toxins in the leaf.
No, there's not toxins.
It's oxalic acid.
It's healthy.
Brian, you could use that.
You look malnourished.
Hey, listen, knucklehead.
You've got to stop saying shit like that when you don't research it.
I have researched it.
No, you haven't.
Because you can counteract all that stuff with calcium.
Oxalic acid is the problem, but you can counteract it with calcium.
No, no, no.
Here's what they'll say about it.
Google's your friend.
Google.
You've got a phone right in front of it.
Google it.
Google it before you say anything.
You're like the CrossFit guy with tits.
Tell me how to eat right now.
Eating a lot of raw leafy greens, here's the issue.
Okay.
Everyone stop listening right now.
What the problem is is that a lot of times leafy greens, because they have to keep insects and vermin away.
Animals are mean.
They produce something called oxalic acid.
You counter that with calcium.
Just go online.
It's not just oxalic acid.
Shut the fuck up.
It's not just oxalic acid.
What are these other things?
What are these other things?
Meanwhile, Tim Means is all over Neil Magny.
That's what I was going to say.
This is a close fight.
This is a super close fight.
What other things, Brian?
Google it and then come back.
Toxins that keep insects away.
There's no other toxins.
You don't know.
I know better than you do.
You're not a green leaf expert, bro.
You should start drinking green shakes.
I'm an expert in Googling shit before I talk about it.
I have a very popular podcast.
I've had several scientists on my podcast.
Oh, Tim Means with the fucking power guillotine.
He got out of it again.
When guys go to their back.
Guys go to their back.
That's twice we've seen that with Cariasso.
Emerito Santos and Kane.
Same thing.
Look at that.
Sean Shelby texting people.
Not even watching the fights.
Guy's fucking ringside.
The greatest fucking sporting event.
Look at Bruce Buffer.
He's sleeping.
He's sleeping.
Sean Shelby's texting people.
That's when you know you've been to too many fights.
You're never going to see that from me, man.
Never going to see that from me.
You see me ringside in a fight, you see me either glued to a monitor or watching the fights.
People always ask me that.
Are you bored?
Fucking never.
Never.
When those bells ring, especially a fight like this, this is a great fucking fight.
Back and forth for sure.
Fuck yeah, man.
This is a great fight.
Brian, Google it.
Just Google it so you know.
By the way, you know who told me that stuff.
Just Google it so you know for yourself that you're wrong.
Two people told me that.
Dave Asprey.
Dave Asprey and John Durant.
I believe.
Dave Asprey, you fuck.
You're not even paying attention.
Dave Asprey offers solutions.
He offers solutions.
Calcium is one of them.
God damn you.
Fuck.
You hurt my feelings because I love you.
Whatever, dude.
I love you, but you give out shit information.
I'm just saying, don't.
And I get tweets by the thousands.
They fucking hate.
They hate.
It comes at me.
I'm like, I love him.
I hate him.
You don't know him.
You tell your fucking listeners.
We're flawed.
I'm flawed, too.
Everyone's flawed.
You know, I have a real problem with people that only complain about people.
They don't talk shit about themselves.
That really bothers me.
There's a lot of that with people who write blogs.
I never talk shit about anybody.
It's a bore.
You're just talking shit about vegetables.
I don't appreciate it.
Talking shit about spinach.
I spin.
I juice every morning, you fuck.
Every morning.
I feel great.
You look very toxic.
Spinach has feelings too, bro.
Brendan looks pretty healthy, by the way.
He's a healthy fucking animal.
Look at him.
He's a savage.
He looks pretty healthy.
Better be healthy.
He's a fucking UFC fighter.
Yeah.
Got no choice, really.
He's a professional cage fighter.
I don't have many convictions, by the way.
Oh, fucking.
I don't fight for my point of view.
Look at this.
Look at this.
That could be the difference.
And look at me.
It's starting to slow down.
Neil Magdy's main training partner, Nate Marquardt.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
Nate.
Oh!
Boy!
Wow, so close.
Means fucking exploded out of the gates of hell.
He's got him in his long legs, man.
Mm-hmm.
Good body triangle.
Ah!
Or good, rather, back mount.
So when Neil-
Look at that.
Switches to mount.
When Neil came off, I think it was the Ultimate Fighter 14,
when Shane Carlin was the coach, he lived with Nate Marquardt and his wife.
They loved having him around so much, he basically stayed there for a year and became their babysitter.
Is that right?
True story.
Wow.
Think some freaky stuff was going on?
I like to think so, but no.
Easy.
Easy.
I don't know.
Aubrey.
Aubrey.
Sir, Google your information before you say things like that.
I think that's on Google, Brian.
For God's sake, man.
Magni, he keeps trying to get that back triangle, but can't get it.
Look at Means controlling that one arm.
Two on one.
Yep, that's a big move.
But look at this.
He gives up the fucking mount.
Goes to butterfly, half guard.
Neal's trying to isolate that arm.
Get that arm.
Yeah.
Get that arm, but he doesn't have the arm in the right position.
No.
If you're going to isolate it, you've got to get that left arm across the chin.
Neal's going to go to mouth.
He's going to push down.
Why isn't he going to head and arm in the first place?
It's a weird position he's holding here.
Super weird.
Why is that homeboy getting –
He's just tired.
Did he pass the side?
He's just tired.
He's taking a break.
He's taking a little break there.
No, he's still in his half guard.
He's just taking a little break there. But Neal's still in his half guard. He's just taking a little break there.
But Neil's giving him all sorts of space.
Look at all the space.
I was over at Hicks and Gracie's house once, and we watched Coliseum 2000.
What is that?
It was a mixed martial arts event in Japan back in the Dizzee when Hickson fought Funaki.
And that was, I think, Hickson's last fight.
What is he talking about? Look at him. I don't know, but Neil won 2-1, I think. What were was, I think, Hickson's last fight. What is he talking on?
Look at him.
I don't know, but Neil won 2-1, I think.
What were you saying, though, Joe?
But Hickson was so amazing watching fights with Hickson when he starts breaking down
positions.
I can't imagine.
Really?
Yeah, he gets disgusted when he sees space.
You know, when he sees guys With their shitty side control
And shitty mounts
And he goes
When I go to
When we start
We're in neutral position
If I go to one
We're not going back to one
Zero
We start at zero
I move to one
And from one I go to two
I'm not going back to zero
I'm going to one
And then to two
And then checkmate
Checkmate And then checkmate checkmate
and then checkmate
gangster
the way he said it
it was like
I believe you
by the way
by the way
maybe has
I've never seen
has he ever cracked
a joke in his life
is he dead serious
all the time
I don't know
I mean I'm sure
if you're around him
and you know
you've fucking
been strangled by him
sufficiently
that he knows
that you understand
your position
in the food chain
he used to Frank Grillo my buddy who trained with him for a long time was on his competition team strangled by him sufficiently that he knows that you understand your position in the food chain.
Frank Grillo, my buddy who trained with him for a long time, was on his competition team.
Was he a Green Beret, Navy SEAL,
sniper that you know?
Whatever, dude.
Guy who served, combat athlete,
riot police,
former world champion.
Tell me about all your friends.
He won the world championships.
Tell me about all your friends because they make he won the world championships. Wrestling in high school.
In everything.
Dude, tell me about all your friends because they make you a better person.
But he said, what did you say?
Tell me about all your friends because they make you a better person.
You find out that Frank Gurley doesn't even exist.
He was in Captain America.
He played the villain.
Is he one of the jerky boys?
No, he was in Captain America.
He played one of the villains.
I didn't see it, but the latest Captain America.
He had a big part.
And he said that Hickson would let you put him in a,
and his purple belt to anybody,
put him in literally like a choke hold and count to 10.
He'd be like, I'm going to get out of this in 10, 9, 8.
He would tell you what he was going to do to you.
He would let black belts do that.
Yeah, he'd tell you what he was going to do to you.
I'm going to put you on an armbar no matter what you do to defend it.
Full back control with the hooks in, rear naked choke locked in,
and he would get out.
It's ridiculous. Come on, and he would get out. Yep.
It's ridiculous.
Come on, Neil.
Get the win.
But it's not if you let a white belt do it to you.
Yeah.
I would let a white belt do that to me.
I agree.
Hicks and Hayes, Cale.
Yeah.
Neil Magdy.
Nice.
Big one.
Six points.
Three.
Huge win.
That style of never committing 100% to everything.
What's his name?
Ran off, huh?
He's not happy, Brian.
He just lost a really big fight.
Big fucking event.
Where's Magni trained now?
He's at Grudge.
Still Colorado?
You know what?
He's not at Grudge.
His head coach is Lester Bowling, and he's with Nate Marquardt and Cody Donovan, those guys in Denver.
At Elevate?
Yes, sir.
Team Elevate.
And they train at that Muscle Farm gym.
That gym's ridiculous.
Is it?
Oh, state of the art.
It's ridiculous.
Ken Kennedy was on the podcast the other day talking mad shit about Muscle Farm products.
I've never had them.
I've never had them myself.
I just know the facility.
I love Six Star products.
I just know the Muscle Farm gym is nice.
Their products probably make you shit your pants.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Everything makes Brendan show up shit his pants.
Everything makes him shit his pants.
I like that, though.
I'm not a big fan of shitting my pants.
That depends what I'm doing.
I'm spoiled with that, aren't I?
It depends what I'm doing.
If it's Saturday night, got nothing to do, put on a good movie, shit my pants.
Hey, by the way, thanks for animating that shit story video that Joe and I did.
Who animated it?
Oh, dude, you didn't get it?
Some guy online?
Yeah, they animated it and made it really funny, too.
Dude, there's so many funny fucking people online, man.
Oh, so great.
Was your shit story about you running away from the girl in the woods?
No, when we were talking about, when I was telling you the shit story.
Oh, the shit story when we
shit on a stick.
Dude, your story that no one's animated.
Someone, hear my call.
The story that you told
about running away from a girl.
Brian was hiking with a girl and he had to shit his pants.
So he made a game out of it.
And ran into the woods.
She's like, where are you going? I'll be right back.
I'm trying to scare you. He ran into the woods and he shit his pants. I was shouting out of it And ran into the woods She's like where are you going I'm trying to scare you
He ran into the woods
I was shouting out of my asshole
My asshole was literally
By the end it was like
And she came walking
I was like look at the hawk
I was trying to make faces at her
Quick there's a bear
Quick run around here
Three more times
She finally heard it because I couldn't get around in time.
She goes, are you sick?
I go, I think so.
She smelled it?
I had to walk her back through the minefield.
We had to turn back around.
My poor asshole.
Oh, chasing, dirty.
You know, if a girl can deal with that, if you can say, hey, listen, I don't want to
lie to you, but I got fucking crazy diarrhea.
Like a first date.
Yeah, guess what? She couldn't deal with it. In fact, a year later, I don't want to lie to you, but I got fucking crazy diarrhea. Like a first date. Yeah, guess what?
She couldn't deal with it.
In fact,
a year later,
she ran out of the fucking case.
But that's good.
That's good.
You got off light.
You're right.
What would you do?
If you were on a date with a chick
and she said she has bad diarrhea,
I said,
look, we're human.
It's all good.
That's what I would say.
Well, yes,
I'd fuck her anyway.
Well, you'd definitely fuck her anyway.
But I probably wouldn't fuck her right then.
I'd let her wash up.
No, I got a problem.
Diarrhea doesn't really get my dick hard.
But the thing is, I wouldn't judge her.
But some people would get upset at you.
And that's like just a weakness thing.
They would sense weakness in you.
But they probably sense weakness in you because you tried to hide it.
Whereas a guy like me would say, hey, listen, I got fucking diarrhea.
So you deal with this or not, it's all good.
I couldn't understand if you hate me now,
but I'm going to go shit behind this tree.
I was in an acting class,
and this fucking guy goes...
Okay, I got to say this before, because this is on.
I fucking hate this Nas commercial,
and I'm done.
You can't keep showing this goddamn thing.
Makes me sick.
Where the guy throws all these wild kicks,
and the other guy comes out and punches him in the face.
And then drinks some caffeine.
Yeah.
Punches him in the face and then eats Crank.
And then these are, yeah, fucking cool, calm and collected.
I'll just have some caffeine because I just knocked a guy out.
No nonsense.
I totally need to be stimulated because I just knocked a guy out.
Naws. I was once on a really super early in dating this girl, I totally need to be stimulated because I just knocked a guy out. Nas.
I was once on a really super early
in dating this girl and I got food poisoning.
We were sleeping in the same hotel room together.
We met in Greece.
I drank a bunch of ouzo and passed the fuck out.
Terrible food poisoning.
What's ouzo?
It's a Greek liquor.
I thought maybe it would help the food poisoning.
I slept like a fucking baby. I woke up in the air. What's ouzo? Ouzo is a Greek liqueur. Yeah, because I thought maybe it helped the food poisoning. Good call.
I slept like a fucking baby.
Woke up.
Great call.
And I woke up and I hear, oh my God.
And I was like, what?
No.
What?
I was like, oh no.
No, no, no.
Oh no.
You did not.
And she just jumps out of bed.
No, you shit.
You had a big shit the bed.
And a huge round circle.
You shit.
You shit the bed.
God damn it.
That's a huge issue.
You have to throw away the fucking mattress!
That's not what's important.
What's important is what happened afterwards with the girl.
Well, it was a lot of laughter.
And any time I would try to be, like, romantic, and we'd be having a wine...
She couldn't take it.
She'd just look at me and just crack the fuck up.
Not having it.
I'd be like, oh, it's because I shit myself, right?
You're laughing.
She wouldn't have told your friend you're the shit guy.
So did you ever fuck her again after that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We made it past it.
We made it past it.
Look at this fucking pregame!
This girl's tits are popping out. Easy.
She's with a black guy that they'll never let fuck her on TV.
I'm upset.
I'm upset. Your voice gets very
high when you get upset. I get angry.
Look at that. She's hot as fuck.
That's ridiculous. Have you ever had a girl
blow up your bathroom? Oh, yeah.
Deal breaker. I have.
Lose my number. No. You blow up my bathroom? Ever. Lose my breaker. I have. Lose my number.
No.
You blow up my bathroom, ever.
Lose my number.
There's pheromones in there.
You and I are different.
No, I had a problem.
Fight of the night right here.
Oh, yeah.
Darren Crookshank and Eric Cook.
Detroit superstar.
Are about to fight right now.
New breed and Detroit superstar about to throw down.
Great.
Boom.
Oh, my God.
Coke, Duke Rookfist trained fighter, and so is Crookshank by the way
when I was at Duke's camp I was training at Duke's place when I was in
Minneapolis and Crookshank was there and coke is one of his boys so this is kind
of interesting I didn't know that Brendan you have a tough this is a crazy
I gotta just say please don't say something stupid. Don't say something like, I can't believe this is your job. Do you got a bottle opener?
God damn, it's scary. Yeah, I'm nervous as shit.
When you see that little thing pop
up at the bottom that says UFC 174,
I go like this.
What makes you scared?
It's not that I'm scared, it's just
nervous. It's getting close. Oh, you see it, so you have to
think about it. Do you try to avoid thinking
about fights as much as possible
before you do them?
That's a good question.
By the time I get home, I'm so exhausted.
I really don't think about it.
I'll wake up sometimes.
I'll sleep like shit thinking about Orlowski, stuff like that.
I'm just so exhausted by the time I get home.
I would never compare myself to anything that you've done,
but I did some competing when I was younger,
and one of the things that I found was I won the U.S. Open when I was 19 years old,
and one of the reasons I think that I won it is because I didn't think I was fighting,
and it was because I had fought the week before,
and I had injured my hamstring, or my groin rather,
and the tournament was the week after that, and I
was like, well, I'm not going to fight.
I'm hurt.
This thing, I need to heal up.
And then I woke up the morning of the fight, and I had a bunch of donuts, which I never
would normally eat, and then I had some coffee, because I used to have a paper route.
That's how I used to make money when I was fighting.
I used to get up in the morning I would get up at 5am
And I would deliver papers
From 5 to 7
Then I'd go back to sleep
Wow
And so
I
I
I had
These fucking
Dunkin Donuts donuts
With powdered sugar
And lemon filling
And
And I had some
Boston cream donuts
And I was
Good for you
Lit up with sugar
And I was like
I'm fucking fighting
And so I got in my car I went home You just didn't think about it I with sugar. And I was like, I'm fucking fighting. So I got in my car.
I went home.
You just didn't think about it.
I packed my bag.
And not only did I not think about it, I told myself I wasn't fighting.
So for a week, I was relaxed as fuck.
And I did no training whatsoever.
I mean, I might have did some stretching.
I definitely worked out in the pool.
Because that's what I would do when I wasn't fighting.
If I was injured, I tore my sartorius muscle.
Besides my ACL, it was one of the biggest injuries I ever had.
What the hell is a sartorius muscle?
It connects your hip to your quadriceps.
It's a pretty big muscle, and it was a pretty bad injury.
Sounds like a dinosaur.
It was for a few months.
I couldn't throw any kicks at all.
It was pretty bad.
But so besides that, I had hurt myself.
So I said, you know what?
Let me just take some time off.
I did a little swimming and this and that.
And the day of, I decided, fuck it, I'm fighting.
But I fought so good because I had slept good.
I slept good.
I relaxed.
The whole week, I wasn't nervous.
I had zero nerves the whole week because I was convinced that I wasn't fighting.
So it was just a sugar rush, a split decision.
And it was one of my –
You just went and did work.
As a Taekwondo fighter, it was one of my biggest victories, winning the U.S. Open.
It was like a big fucking –
I've also heard from some athletes when you're a little bit injured too,
it kind of takes some of the pressure off you for your own performance.
You're like, well, I'm injured anyway.
Also, you don't over-train.
You don't over-train. I think Bernard Hopkins – will you tell me performance. You're like, well, I'm injured anyway. Also, you don't over-train. You don't over-train.
I think Bernard Hopkins, will you tell me Bernard Hopkins said something like,
why would I train?
Most of these guys over-train.
He doesn't even train them.
Well, now as he's older, and Larry Holmes said the same thing,
he realized, why am I training an hour and a half for a 30-minute fight?
Right.
True.
That just comes with experience.
They say that about Roger Federer.
The top tennis players do not practice more than two hours a day.
Yeah, it's tennis.
So I was really surprised.
Two hours a day is a long fucking time.
It's tennis.
And we were just talking about some serious shit.
Tennis is a bad motherfucking sport.
Relax.
Nobody's clanging shins off your head.
They play four or five hours, bro.
I don't give a fuck if they play for 24 hours.
Well, you need to learn tennis or I'll serve a ball in your fucking face.
And you just brought up Andre Augustine.. I'm talking about fucking tennis, bro.
Andre Agassi, oh, man.
He hit the ball for two hours.
Guess what?
If he doesn't show up, nothing happens.
Take a guy who weighs about the same that I do and who runs an ultra marathon.
He runs 100 miles.
Give him a month off, and I'll fucking strangle him.
He doesn't have a chance.
He has no chance.
You know why?
Because it's not a marathon.
If you lock up with me, you don't know what you're doing.
I'm going to choke the shit out of you.
See, a marathon is nonsense.
You're just running.
No one's kicking you.
No one's throwing rocks at you.
There's no spearhead.
But tennis is a different story.
It's nonsense.
It's a rubber ball.
Oh, my God.
It's difficult.
The ignorance in this room, ladies and gentlemen.
Get the fuck out.
Get the fuck out.
You fucking make me get out.
I will make you get out.
You're ruining our UFC experience. Give me some volume to drown out. You fucking make me get out. I will make you get out. You're ruining our UFC experience.
Give me some volume to drown out.
You see my fucking wheel kick.
I'm going to flip out right now.
Dude.
Wow.
I wish the listeners could watch me play tennis.
Crugshank.
Whoa, he's the underdog.
Huge underdog.
Jesus.
In MMA, a plus 355 is huge.
What does that mean?
How did they come to that number?
If you put $100 on him, you know what I'm saying?
He's basically a 3-1 underdog.
Wow.
Almost 4-1.
That is fucking interesting.
That's an interesting fucking underdog.
Who makes those odds?
What experts are doing that?
Who is doing that?
I don't know.
Someone sets an initial line and then the betting.
Whoa, he's minus 450.
That's insane.
He's a heavier favorite.
I disagree.
Look at that tattoo.
Of course he's minus 450. What is that? It's terrifying. favorite. I disagree. Look at that tattoo. Of course he's minus 450.
What is that?
It's terrifying.
I think it's a J.R. Tolkien or something.
Who knows?
It's probably his favorite author.
Hello.
Gun Show.
Gun Show.
Who's Gary Copeland?
Gary Copeland.
Gun Show.
Gary Copeland is as wide as he is tall, and he's not very tall.
He's fantastic.
He is fantastic.
How about Chrissy?
Hi, Chrissy.
She's a good girl.
By the way, Brian, if you ever want to play tennis.
You say she's a good girl.
Why'd you get creepy?
Oh, but you play tennis? Yeah, I'll fuck you up. A gentleman in theissy. She's a good girl. By the way, Brian, if you ever want to play tennis. Did you say she's a good girl? Why'd you get creepy? Oh, but you play tennis?
Yeah, I'll fuck you up.
A gentleman in the room.
A gentleman in the room.
He'll make you quit playing tennis or table tennis.
By the way, Aubrey is an athlete.
I felt his back.
He's got a valley for a back.
I appreciate it.
Let's see.
Cruikshank and...
Oh!
Cruikshank tag Coke with the right hand.
Double, valley, two-toe shorts.
Cruikshank coming off of that victory is very, very hyped.
Dude, the way he mixes things up is insane.
You just can't train for it.
The kicks, the angles, his hands are low.
Dude, he's trying to make him pay with every kick.
That's what you got to do with a kicker, man.
If you and Coke go into barb, red, and sharp, who gets the girl?
Well, the mic.
Sharp does.
He's a good looking dude.
His fight versus, he's too small. Sharp's the girl. Well, the Mike Rio fight. Schaub does. I'll answer any of those questions.
His fight versus... He's too small.
Schaub's a giant.
His fight versus Mike Rio.
Not to mention, big day.
You've got to understand, when you see a girl...
He's too small.
He's too small.
Schaub's a giant.
When a girl's around Schaub, you just got to get her away.
He's on fire.
I got to run.
It's true.
Hungry eyes.
He has cancer.
It's fucking...
It's aerial.
I disappear.
When I'm standing next to him, I disappear.
I look like a cup of coffee.
I could be a candle. It doesn't matter. I just tell girls Brian has AIDS. Like, he has aerial. I disappear. When I'm standing next to him, I disappear. I look like a cup of coffee. I could be a candle.
It doesn't matter.
I just tell girls Brian has AIDS.
Like, he has AIDS.
He might have AIDS.
I look like I do when I'm next to you.
He might have AIDS.
He wouldn't get tested if he did.
I'm all gaunt.
By the way, he's just spanking.
Would be the last guy on earth that gets tested.
Definitely not.
I'm like, bro, do you think you have AIDS?
Nah, man, I feel fine.
Whatever else he has.
I just say he fights, I play tennis.
Whatever else he has is duking it out with the AIDS.
And he's happy to just be a battleground.
Just a huge cock block.
His body's a battleground.
Big Petrie boots.
Darren with a big kick to the body.
Well, you know, it's interesting.
Like I said, because when I was at Rufus Sport, Crookshank was training there.
When they had the UFC in Milwaukee.
That fucking southpaw stance is always tricky, man.
Southpaws are tricky, man.
They are tricky,
but they're opened up
for right hands
and right kicks, too.
But they're also...
It's tough to deal with.
They're used to it
more than you are.
Correct.
Unless you train
on a regular basis
with a really good Southpaw.
Southpaws are tough, man.
Mitch Rowan was a Southpaw.
It's tough to find
a high-level Southpaw guy.
Oh, nice little snappy kick.
Yeah, that snappy right jab is a motherfucker, man.
Straight rights are how you beat a southpaw.
But Crookshank, I was so impressed with him in that Mike Rio fight.
And I know Mike Rio is primarily a grappler.
So the difference between...
Ooh, nice inside leg kick.
I like how he set it up with the punches.
They both got crazy explosion.
They're fast.
Good job, Brian.
Because I like to compliment myself.
I keep myself going.
Because obviously I'm surrounded by enemies in this fucking movie.
He's surrounded by people who do not appreciate tennis except for Aubrey.
Aubrey.
A gentleman.
Oh, God.
Thank God you're here.
Thank God you're here. fighting a bunch of barbarians.
Oh, good shot.
Quick right hand by Crookshank.
God damn.
Tell you what, whoever made these odds, man, are way off.
They need to educate themselves.
I get confused sometimes at some of the odds.
I mean, Aubrey has made a killing, allegedly.
If I was a betting man. By some of the odds. I mean, Aubrey has made a killing, allegedly. If I was a betting man.
By some of the things that I've...
Sometimes, you know, he'll come to fights
and I'll go, whatever you do, bet the fucking house.
Oh! High kick!
He's out!
He's out, bro.
I don't know. Yes, I do know.
He's just taking punishment, man.
Oh, he's hanging in there. Gary is close
to stopping this fight. That's it.
Oh, shit.
Somebody made some money.
Detroit superstar in the house.
Huge, huge victory.
And I would have told Aubrey.
Watch this setup.
I would have told Aubrey those odds are off.
Those odds are off.
I texted my brother right before we got in.
He said, who should I bet on?
I said, Detroit superstar.
That's a big victory.
Who the fuck made him a 3.5 to 1 underdog and a 4.5 to 1 favorite for Coke?
Some fuck who's used to doing NFL and NBA.
I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll do UFC this weekend.
It's some guy who doesn't train.
That's all that is.
That's a guy who doesn't train.
Look at this.
Head kick.
Watch this.
Boom.
Boom.
And by the way, Brian caught him with the foot.
Tag one.
Damn right he did, buddy.
Damn right he did.
You and I know the difference did You and I know the difference
Gary stopped the fight because he got tired of being so low
How about the elbows?
He was squatting, he gassed out
He was like I gotta stop this fight
My quads are on fire
That's a thick legged man
I would have stopped that fight
I gotta be honest with you
No it wasn't enough
He was definitely in trouble.
But look, when Crookshank's
on top of him, he's dropping these shots
and every time he's dropping these shots,
he's grabbing them.
Coke is trying to get up.
I mean, he's definitely tagging them, but I don't
think I would have stopped that fight because I like
to see a guy survive that kind of shit
and come back, and I know that sometimes
when guys burn themselves out trying to finish a fight,
they could gas out.
We just got ourselves a superstar.
Who here can do a backflip?
On a trampoline.
On a trampoline.
I can't even do it on a trampoline.
I can't either.
I can do it in the water.
I probably could if I took the time.
You know, I did gymnastics forever because I used to hang out with GSP all the time.
He did gymnastics. I was like, I want with GSP all the time. He did gymnastics.
I was like, I want to be like him.
So I started doing gymnastics.
Then he went back to Montreal.
I kept doing it.
You're the worst body for gymnastics.
Not really.
I got really good.
I'm sorry.
I got really good.
He's just trying to criticize you.
Yeah, right?
He's so tall.
Shut down your control.
It's tough.
You got the worst body for fucking.
You wouldn't get sensitive about me.
Your body just.
You wouldn't get sensitive about me saying you have a bad body for gymnastics, by the way.
How?
Not really.
Not really.
I'm 6'5", 250.
I'm not really.
Yeah, you do.
Well, the thing is.
You objectively do.
I kept doing it, and then I was getting really tired from it, and it was like hurting my knees.
I was like, why the fuck am I?
Why am I doing gymnastics right now?
Imagine if you tore your knee doing backflips.
I'm covered.
And there's 10-year-olds everywhere doing way cooler shit than me.
And they weigh 13 pounds.
Yes, and I was like, you know what?
I should probably be in the gym rolling.
I'm the fuck out of here.
I've never been back.
Good for you.
That's very smart.
No one ever won a fight by doing backflips.
No.
That's the only reason I went, so I could do a backflip after I won a fight.
Brian Backflip.
Do you think this fight is a fucking interesting fight? There's a couple
interesting fights on this card. Cormier
and Henderson is very interesting.
But the thing about Cormier
and Henderson is Henderson is
off the TRT now. TRT
has been banned. They shut that
shit down. There's a couple guys who are like, ah,
shit. Vitor.
Vitor put out a statement, I'm a beast
without TRT. The Holy Spirit. Really? Yeah, he said the Holy Spirit. He tweeted a statement. I'm a beast without TRT.
The Holy Spirit.
Did he really?
Yeah, he said the Holy Spirit.
He tweeted that out.
I'm a beast without TRT.
Cruxalt, ladies and gentlemen.
That's a heavy loss.
You just got a new superstar, UFC.
The Detroit superstar.
That's a big victory.
That's a huge win, man.
Huge win.
Eric Koch was set to fight for the title.
Remember that?
He was supposed to fight Aldo for the title.
Damn. That's a big...
God, I hate seeing guys lose.
Well, I do,
but I like seeing guys win at the same time
and one of them has to happen for the other to happen.
And I'm a big fan of Crookshank. Me too.
I'm a really big fan.
Alright, let's calm down.
This guy takes a lot of heat.
John Anik. He takes a lot of fucking shit online
Why?
Because he's a fucking commentator
He takes shit
No matter what you do
You just do right
You're in the public
You don't
I take plenty
Do you?
It just doesn't bother me
Joe has what
Six jigillion followers on Twitter
You take some hits
You take hits
It's just
Oh
Look at that beautiful head kick.
Crookshanks on him.
But see, this is my point.
And I'm not saying it was a bad stoppage.
I'm just saying if I was standing over him,
I think I would have let him fight a little bit more.
Because I don't think that any of these shots are putting him away.
He's not flatlining.
His head is off the mat. And he's trying to figure out a way.
He's trying to figure out a way to get out of that scenario.
But when a guy's on top of you and a guy's blowing his wad like that,
swarming, as a guy who's experienced a lot of fights,
I think that you've got to let a guy try to fight out of the bottom position.
Shane Carwin Lesnar.
Yes!
Because the guy's head, he never laid back.
There's his dad.
His dad's a karate instructor.
Did he eat his kids?
Holy shit.
That's actually his dad.
It might be Wheat Belly, guys.
It might be Wheat Belly.
Is that the inventor of CrossFit?
No, he ate the inventor of CrossFit.
That's insane.
Do you think that he'd pull his dad aside and go,
Dad, come on, we're going to go walking today.
Walking?
Dad, how?
Ooh, earlier fight.
This must be a good fight.
Justin Salas, Neil Magny teammate.
Versus Ben Wall.
I did not see this fight, so it must be an exciting fight.
Can I spoil it for everyone?
No, please don't.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
Don't you dare.
I was working out because I have a gym at the house, by the way, gentlemen.
He does.
You have a cage in your house.
Yeah, I keep lions in it.
Dude.
I like to.
I keep lions in it.
I like to work out while I watch your fights.
It makes me scared.
Who was that mafia guy who would bring you down to the basement to see the lion?
If you wanted to fight with him, I think it was, fuck, do you know?
You follow this stuff.
No.
There was a mafia guy who had kept a lion downstairs.
And the informant was talking.
He goes, well, if we had a problem, we'd take him down to see the lion.
That's all.
It was all we needed for the guy to comply.
And they just had this huge male lion down there.
I would imagine that's the last way you'd want to die.
Well, the Uday and Kuse, whatever, Huse, Saddam Hussein's kids used to feed people to dogs,
to Rottweilers.
Nice guys.
They would not feed the dogs for days, and then they would throw people to the dogs,
including women that they raped.
They would rape women on their wedding day.
They would find them on their wedding day, steal them away from their groom,
rape them, and then feed them to dogs.
Where was William Wallace when that shit was happening?
The biggest assholes on the planet.
The biggest assholes.
They were complete total social paths.
I hope if there's a hell, I hope they're just fucking in the hottest.
I hope they're just getting raped.
Come back as snails.
Shitheads.
For the rest of time, I hope little kids step on them. They come back as snails. And raped. Come back as snails. Shitheads. For the rest of time,
I hope little kids step on them.
They come back as snails. And just keep coming back
as snails get stepped on.
Splat.
We get run over by cars.
Splat.
And they live,
but they're in agony
for like 20 hours.
Just snails.
Uday and Kuse, snails.
Come back as another snail.
Crows eat them.
Snails on the salt flats.
Stomp.
Stomp. Yeah. Impressive on the salt flats. Stomp.
Stomp.
Yeah.
Impressive beard by this man.
Only impressive because he bothered to grow it.
True.
At this point in time, I'm a little tired of those beards.
I got to be honest with you.
You know what?
It's getting a little old, right?
Everyone's doing it.
Yeah.
Says the guy who can't grow one. Says the guy who can't grow one.
It's a sign that you need a little bit of attention.
I can grow one.
I would agree.
I think it's a sign.
My beard.
I dyed my beard, do you know?
Look at how fucking dark it is.
If you have a big dick, you don't have a beard.
I have a rich darkness to my beard.
I do.
If you have a big dick, you don't need a big beard.
Nah, man.
But if you have a big dick and a big beard, it's like, whoa, I didn't see that coming.
True.
You look like a monster with a tail.
You have a big dick and a big beard.
You're a multifaceted motherfucker.
Do you write your own poetry, too?
What's your Twitter account like?
A lot of retweets?
If you've got a huge beard, do you trim your pubic bush or do you just let it go wild?
It depends on the kind of chicks you date.
Usually if you're growing a beard like that, you kind of don't give a shit and you have that 70s bush.
You know what I'm saying?
I take it all down, guys, just so you know.
I got a number three razor. I take it down. I keep it tight.
I used to date a chick who didn't like it.
Oh! Big left hand.
Oh, that's it. That's it. Same guy
stops the fight. That was a good stoppage.
That was a very good stoppage.
Oh, boy. Easy, don't. He was thinking about
flipping, but he's like, I think my legs are gas. Is that the Eiffel
Tower on his back turned upside down?
No, I think it's a caduceus.
It's a what?
Caduceus.
It's originally the DNA helix from Sumer.
Really?
What is it?
It's just a shitty tattoo, I think it is.
I don't know.
What is it?
What is it on his back?
Come on.
Luke Cadeo in this corner.
Former 155. Hey, guys.
Guys, during the break, just so you know, if you like comedy, I'll be eating Edmonton comic strip.
Are you going back there again?
Were you just there a week ago?
No, no, no.
Straight left.
Boom.
Straight left, yeah.
When are you going there?
I'll be there this Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
But how long ago were you just there?
You were there recently.
No, I've been there for over a year.
Oh, okay.
I'm confused.
I can't wait for Vancouver.
Oh, we're going to have a good time. Oh, okay. I'm confused. I can't wait for Vancouver. Oh, we're going to have a good time.
Oh, dude, I'm psyched.
We're going to Vancouver on June 13th, and we're in Lloyd Minster on June 12th.
UFC 174.
Yes, and Callum will be there.
I can't wait.
I will also be there.
I'm excited.
I'm shooting my one-hour special soon.
I'm shooting my special in Colorado, confirmed.
Really?
You know what I love about Joe Rogan? When? August 22nd and 23rd at the Comedy Works in Denver. you know what I love about Joe Rogan
August 22nd and 23rd
at the Comedy Works
in Denver
here's what I love
about Joe Rogan
Joe Rogan would probably
open for me
for my one hour special
ask me
let me know
I'll do it
alright I'm done
I'd be happy to
I'd love you
I'd be happy to introduce you
I want you to do that
let me know
if I get the week off
I'm fucking there
you know me brother
my favorite thing is listening to you laugh in the audience while I'm doing my stand-up.
Well, we worked together in D.C. at the Improv.
Oh, the greatest.
I could hear you cackling the whole time.
That's like when your friend is there.
You end up just doing stand-up for your friend.
I think that's Artemis Prime or whatever the fuck it is.
He's got a bandana.
What are those things called? Transformers. Transformers. I. He's got a bandana which is awesome. What are those things called?
Transformers?
Transformers.
I think he's got a transformer
on his back.
You know Marky Marks
in the new Transformer movie?
Yeah, I can't wait.
Who told him to be in that movie?
Who told him to be in that movie?
It's like someone
offering you
John Olive Idemo.
I need a manager.
Oh, shit.
You want to be in the Transformers movie?
Unless you want to fuck Megan Fox I would say no
You want to be in a trailer right next to her?
No, our trailer is butted up next to each other
Her door can't open unless mine is open
Take the hinges off mine
Fuse our doors together
I want to know if she's showering
Do you need a towel?
Oh my god, do you need a massage? Do you need a towel? Oh, my God.
Do you need a massage?
Do you need a towel?
She's not even in those movies, right?
They forced her out.
No, right?
Yeah.
She had a problem with the director.
You know what she is in, though?
The new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie.
Yeah, it was actually on that movie.
Hey, that's exactly what I want.
As a kid, I loved Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Let's make them realistic, said no one.
Wait a minute.
Was she in that movie?
What the fuck?
Was she in that movie?
Is that the same guy
Who directed it
Has a problem
Michael Bay
The gay guys
No it's not
That's the other guy
Michael Bay did
Brian Singer
The Brian Singer
Is the one who's having
A problem with gay guys
Coming out and saying
That he fucked him
I got a message
For all you little twinks
That fuck Brian Singer
And now you're running
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You knew the fucking deal
When you get into a pool
And there's 500 other twinks in there
And you're all on ecstasy
Shut the fuck up
The guy hooked you up
He brought you to the party
He didn't have to bring you to the party
There's not a shortage
He's not a straight guy
There's not a shortage of twinks
Okay
Settle the fuck down
Twink is a great...
Twink is a great...
Yeah, you're not allowed to use it anymore.
Would I be a twink in that game?
Well, I'm too old.
No, you're definitely not a twink.
What's a twink?
Your guy buys twinks.
Yes, I am.
I had a long discussion.
You might be...
There's like different words.
You know there's like a bear, but there's like otters, and there's a whole...
Otters?
There's like a whole forest.
All I know is bear.
There's a whole forest of animals.
What am I?
Why do all I know is bear?
Because you are a bear, bro. But you're not hairy. No, I'm not hairy enough like a whole forest. All I know is bear. There's a whole forest of animals. What am I? Why do all I know is bear? Because you are a bear, bro.
But you're not hairy.
No, I'm not hairy enough.
A little forest.
A twinker's like a little.
A twinker, a pink, like a soft, a smooth, like a young boy.
Like a feminine.
You might actually be an otter.
I might be an otter.
I got a beauty.
An otter likes bears, though, I think.
Have you seen what I'm working with under the shirt at all?
I don't know if you have. I'll show you later. Take your shirt off. You might be a muscle otter likes bears, though, I think. Have you seen what I'm working with under the shirt at all? I don't know if you have.
Take your shirt off.
You might be a muscle otter then.
An otter.
A muscle otter.
What's the definition of an otter?
Look at that.
Muscle otter.
No, Brian's a chicken head in the gay community.
Are you kidding me?
Look at the fucking...
What is it?
Is that a four pack?
I almost can see your abs.
Hey, bro, that's a fucking...
The light was right.
You were oiled up.
Dude.
I'm not mad at it. You can't be mad at that. No, for being 54, you look good. Hey, bro, that's a fucking... Your light was right, you were oiled up. Dude, I'm not mad at it.
You can't be mad at that.
No, for being 54, you look good.
Hey, bro.
What the fuck?
Easy with the numbers, man.
You and Donald Sterling just doing the damn thing.
I'll tell you, there's a lot of people that saw Donald Sterling with that chick, and they
ignored the racism and went, there's hope.
There's hope. There's hope.
By the way.
That 81-year-old guy
can fuck that
20-something-year-old chick.
There's hope.
If I get $20 billion
rolling the Clippers,
What's his name?
There's hope.
He's got a body on him.
Play pro football.
Forget about all that.
Look at Adam Sandler
doing another movie
with Drew Barrymore
and expecting someone
to watch that.
You know what?
You know who watches them?
Who's involved in funding?
You know who watches those bullshit movies?
This guy.
Do you love those movies?
Do you?
I don't like intense stuff.
So I watch that bullshit.
You don't like intense stuff when you're preparing for a fight?
In general, because my job's so intense,
I watch bullshit.
Like last night I went and saw that movie Neighbors.
Oh, I would see that movie too.
I love Seth Rogen.
I love all of his movies.
So funny, man.
Did you see This is the End?
Oh, yeah.
Funny, right?
Great.
It was.
It was a good movie.
Craig Anthony.
Funny fucking movie, man.
So funny.
So Neighbors was good.
Neighbors is...
How many stars?
Craig Robinson was great in that fucking movie.
Yeah, he was.
He's funny as shit.
With his towel.
He has a towel in every scene.
Because he's sweating.
He's sweating so much. Sweating. Which is true. Oh, my God. He's funny as shit. With his towel. He has a towel in every scene. Because he's sweating. He sweats so much.
Sweating.
Which is true.
Oh, my God.
He's great.
Seth Rogen.
Seth Rogen, Neighbors.
I give that movie on entertainment a four out of five.
You know what?
It's not going to win any awards.
You don't go there to learn something.
You just go to be entertained.
I love how James Franco dodged that 18-year-old bullet.
I love the way you say Franco and not Franco.
I say Franco because that's what you said. I like how James Franco. He was trying to bang some 17-year-old bullet. I love the way you say Franco and not Franco. I say Franco because that's what you said.
I like how James Franco.
He was trying to bang some 17-year-old.
Was he?
It was great.
But he didn't bang her, so it was pretty like...
Do you know the whole story?
I don't know.
She blew the spot on him, right?
Ah, that fucking cunt.
She should be boycotted for life, by the way.
But him, what he did was pretty creepy.
What happened?
He was on Instagram with some chick.
She was 17.
He was like, when do you turn 18?
Come meet me.
And she printed, took all the tweets that he sent her or whatever it was.
Snapchats.
Yeah.
There's something creepy about that, man.
We know a chick's 17 and you're fucking James Franco.
The deal is you're supposed to back off.
Please stop saying Franco.
You're supposed to say, okay, it's not like I'm in the desert and I have to fuck my kids and eat my neighbors.
Don't you have a Rolodex of 50 hot bitches who are over 18?
You got to try something different.
The problem is there's some dudes that are attracted to innocent.
They have a real thing with teenage angst.
There has to be a better way to go than Instagram.
I like a woman in her 30s who's been through two divorces with a sex swing.
Really?
Scotch on her breath.
Yeah, I like an older woman.
You like a chick with cigarettes in her purse.
Yes, disappointment.
Like a chick who gets a text from a guy and goes, fuck you, and then throws the phone in the toilet.
And has weather originals in her bag. Yeah, and kind of bad you, and then throws the phone in the toilet. And it really did come with me.
And kind of bad skin.
I don't like all that beautiful skin.
Well, you like a girl who is in love with you.
Whatever, Joe.
I don't want to talk about that.
You don't like a girl who sees Brendan Shaw,
but is like, I can get that guy.
You like a girl who knows she can't get Brendan Shaw
because Brendan Shaw is out busy with something superior.
Right.
I like a little broken.
I like a broken way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like a broken way.
Always have.
And you used to always be like, why are you with that?
I was like, I like it.
Shut up.
A little broken.
I'd be like, come on, whatever.
I like her.
It's like, what are you doing?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm drawn to it, man.
Yeah.
I like a little roughness.
I used to want them to fall in love with you, too, which is always odd to me.
Well, I don't know about that.
I just like making a connection, man.
Yeah, but you weren't a guy who was really honest about what was going on.
I looked off.
I was like, hey, we both know what's happening here, right?
Right?
And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, you weren't that guy.
You were the guy who was like, I just, we have a connection.
Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes.
I fall in love.
I fall in love in the moment.
There's no question.
I'm the same way as Callan.
I don't know if you fall in love. I don't know if you fall in love. I think you want them to fall in love so that moment. There's no question. I'm the same way as Callan. I don't know if you fall in love.
I don't know if you fall in love.
I think you want them to fall in love so that you can feel good about it.
You're making me look so bad right now, man.
Your wife, when you asked her, you knew she was the one when you met her.
Did she get pregnant?
You're like, I better set my game up.
Listen, here's the reality.
There is no perfect person.
Not me, not you, not anyone.
And it's when you enter into a relationship, it's really all a matter of where are you in your life?
What are you deciding?
What decisions do you make as far as like how you proceed?
And I've had friends that are like, you know, hey, man, I'm thinking about getting married.
I'm like, stop.
Stop what you're doing right now and understand what you're doing. Because a marriage,
all it is, is a legal contract with the state. If you're going to have
kids and you want to have kids, marriage is all good. But I didn't get married until I had kids.
And on this move, I'm going to have a pickle break right now. I need some pickles.
There you go. I want a pickle. Grab me a pickle.
Like a legit pickle?
Yes.
Pickles, man.
Just so anybody understands, there's nothing wrong with getting married.
There's nothing wrong with having kids.
There's nothing wrong with all those things.
It just has to be the right time. You've got to know the right person, too.
It's got to be the right fucking scenario.
Pickles.
Pickles.
Pickles up.
So when are we playing tennis, Brian?
I'd love to.
Dude, for real.
Are you around tomorrow?
We can do it tomorrow.
Yeah, I think we're doing a podcast here tomorrow.
How about Monday?
Yeah, possibly.
All right.
Do you play a lot?
A bit.
I love it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm obsessed with tennis.
Right on.
Boxing and tennis now.
I don't know, man.
I mean, pretty different.
Hey, bro.
Could you please
get tougher
bro
could you do something
bro I've got reserves
could you eat beef jerky
or something
listen I am tough
I mean
not really
but
you're one of the
toughest comedians
yeah not bad
he's definitely
in the top thousand
here's what
I'm not tough
but if my friend's
in a fight
I'm not gonna
stand around I'm gonna help, but if my friend's in a fight, I'm not going to stand around.
I'm going to help you out.
These are mustard pickles.
I've never had these.
Mustard pickles?
This Grillo's Pickles Company sends me these pickles.
They're fresh pickles from Boston, and they're fucking amazing.
I'm pretty excited about a pickle.
I'm going to have a pickle and a grip.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting down on that.
You can get in on that.
Everybody can get in on that.
I got enough pickles for everybody.
It's going to sound like a pickle commercial here.
Will Sasson, my buddy.
It's fucking good, man.
I brought some Sam Adams.
I'll take some, bitch.
I'll tell you what, everybody.
The perfect storm to shit your pants again
Mustard pickles and a shit load of
About a gallon of bulletproof coffee I've had
This is good
I've never had this before
Yeah that is good
It's unusual
By the way
People are complaining on Twitter because I'm eating in a microphone
Go fuck your mother
Okay That's all I have to a microphone. Go fuck your mother.
Okay?
That's all I have to say to you.
Go fuck your mother.
Wow. If you're listening to this and you're like, your fucking podcast sucked because I heard you chewing.
Fuck you.
All kinds of people just went out to go get pickles, right?
Everyone is hearing the crunch.
GrilosPickles.com.
And a lot of you are like, what's so good about pickles?
Most pickles.
Ooh, there's the James Franco thing, huh?
Let me see.
Do they have a picture of this girl?
It's a hoax?
He's got a movie coming out.
The trailer came out the same day that story broke.
That's not a hoax.
Hoax that I'm trolling for teenage girls?
His movie is he plays a coach that gets involved with one of his players who's a 17-year-old
It's the worst PR move ever.
Because guess what?
None of us knew that.
Now we think he's just a psycho.
Yeah.
I don't know about that, but I'm looking at this Godzilla commercial and my dick's heart
is a rock.
Really?
I'm very excited about this Godzilla commercial.
You think it'll be a good movie?
You know what?
I'm not excited about it, man
That's because you're not into intense shit
See, me?
I'm not worried about fighting Andrei Orlovsky
Because I don't have to
So, I'm watching Godzilla
I'm getting fucking pumped
The other Godzilla was some bullshit
What's your favorite?
Godzilla commercial or Ronda Rousey right after it?
For me, I'd say Godzilla.
I'd say Ronda.
Because Godzilla is definitely going to kick your ass.
You know it going in, so fuck it.
Oh, well.
Try again on the next incarnation.
Ronda, you feel like you might have a chance.
That's what fucks you up.
I don't think I have a chance.
I'm under no illusions.
She choked me out.
On Instagram.
Guys, follow me on Instagram
That funny thing that you do on Instagram
You do have a really interesting thing that you're doing
Where you do the angel and the devil
That's fucking hilarious
That's really funny man
And it's really original too man
Good
I got more to come
Well I fucking hope so
Brian's doing this thing
Where he has a cell phone on one side
And an iPad on the other.
So he has two things talking to him at the same time.
That is me.
Are you doing that when you're on the road?
You're bored?
And isn't one like, hey, fuck guys.
You're like, wait, what?
What?
Yeah.
The guy's like, fuck.
You have to watch it.
This is a broad who is in the same broad.
This is the girl who's in love with Wayne Newton.
Here it comes.
Who's scary?
Wayne Newton.
Look at that.
How does he not know?
Buzz's girlfriend.
He doesn't know for the same reason why bodybuilders don't know they look ridiculous
or anorexics don't know they look ridiculous.
Lack of self-awareness.
The Nas guy gets a fucking... Did they run out of people to sponsor the UFC?
Did they not have a guy in the office that does quality control?
It goes enough with the fucking spinning Nas guy.
Bro, real quick, let's talk about bodybuilding.
Could there be a gay sport?
It's guys getting big for guys.
I actually went – I had a friend who was competing with this girl,
competing in one of those.
I went to the first time ever.
Guys on guys, right?
It was the craziest, scariest thing I've ever seen in my life.
Wait a minute.
Racks on racks on racks.
Guys, guys, guys.
Look at Philippou's muscularity.
He's ridiculous.
Costa Philippou.
You know, it's interesting.
Costa Philippou left Ray Longo's camp, you know, because he's 185 pounds, most likely.
Weidman's 185. They might have to fight. I don't know what all the drama was. Do you?, you know, because he's 185 pounds, most likely. Weidman's 185.
They might have to fight.
I don't know what all the drama was.
Do you?
Do you know anything?
Carry on.
But since then, he's not looked as good.
He's lost his last two against Luke Rockhold and Francis Carmel.
On my last fight with Mitron, UFC 165, me and him shared a locker room.
I'm not making this up.
This guy did maybe
half a jumping jack and went out and fought. No warm up. Zero. Look at him. Not a sweat
out. He does not warm up. He didn't hit mitts. He didn't do anything. He did kind of this
half ass jumping jack. He goes, let's roll. And here I am sweating my ass off in the back.
Getting ready.
All right. Look at this fight
Because he's fighting Lorenz Larkin
And my take on this
Is that Larkin is like a really multifaceted striker
Throws a lot of kicks
Very tricky
I've tried with him
Very tricky
But
Philippou is almost exclusively a boxer
He's like a sprawl boxer type character
And he's been getting taken down a lot lately
That's why he's been losing his fights
Well Carmon really kind of tricked him.
I don't think he ever saw that coming.
I think he thought that Carmon was going to.
He should have, though.
Because Carmon, he's a GSB partner.
Running double.
The difference is, Philippou has crazy knockout power.
Larkin's really not known for his knockout power.
Does he, though?
Does Philippou have crazy knockout power?
He does, man.
He does.
Who is he knocked out?
Who's the last guy he knocked out, though?
It's been a while.
Did you see his fight with Jared Hammond?
Uh-oh.
Oh, man.
Talk about brain damage.
Really?
Not fun to watch.
These are my new favorite pickles.
I can't get enough of these pickles.
I don't feel good.
I'm a little lightheaded, but I'm eating the shit out of these pickles.
It might be the bulletproof coffee.
It's not.
It's just pickles with the fucking mustard.
It's the perfect storm to shit your pants.
30 seconds, people.
I blocked five guys who complained about me chewing pickles.
By the way, are we allowed to ask?
I mean, I know you guys don't make predictions,
but if you had to put your money on the Silva-Brown fight,
can I get a call?
Which fight?
On the Silva-Brown fight.
On the main event?
You want to wait for the main event?
Yeah, no.
I like Matt Brown.
I don't like the fact that Eric Silva's a big, he's two to one.
Who makes these odds?
Crazy odds.
What the fuck are we doing?
Matt Brown's a savage.
Matt Brown's won four fights in a row, all knockouts.
Eric Silva, he wins one, loses one.
I think he's won seven fights in a row.
He has it.
Has it?
No, it's four.
Four?
Whatever it is, I'm always impressed with him.
You might be right on seven.
Maybe it's four knockouts in a row.
I'm not unimpressed with Eric Silva.
I think Eric Silva's a fucking beast.
I think Matt Brown's fought tougher guys.
But Dong Young Kim knocked him out.
I agree.
Not that Dong Young Kim's not an animal.
He is.
Here, one, two, three, four, five, six.
Seven?
Six in a row. Four? Six in a row.
Phillip, Phillip, Phillip.
Four knockouts in a row, right?
Yeah, his last loss was set for him in a guillotine.
By the way.
Oh!
Oh!
Uh-oh.
You just got tagged.
Phillip was tired of losing, man.
He was ranked, what, six at one point?
Yeah.
He was up there, man.
He's a beast.
He's so strong.
His legs.
I would imagine he is strong.
His legs are insane. Look at his calves. They ain't giving those muscles away in a Cracker Jack strong. His legs. I would imagine he is strong. His legs are insane.
Look at his calves.
They ain't giving those muscles away in a Cracker Jack box.
You know what I'm saying, folks?
You know what I'm saying?
That'd be me as a...
The kid's Greek.
He's got a goatee.
He's bald.
Good leg kick by Larkin there.
And Larkin used to fight 205, right?
Yeah.
You know, Larkin has a win over Robbie Lawler.
Did you know that?
Strike force.
And he looked good in that fight.
He looked good in that Robbie Lawler fight. He did, man.
He's really clean as far as his technique.
You know what? In Strikeforce, he was a
killer. I think the UFC was a
I don't want to say a big jump, but it's different.
Strikeforce and UFC are different.
He's stumbled a little bit in the UFC
so far. Larkin
seems very composed. He just hasn't gotten comfortable.
Very composed.
That haircut's freaking me out.
I don't get it. Kid and play kind of
thing going on? I don't know. Bringing the 80s back?
What about Vitor's haircut?
I'm a fan. I am too.
I like him in cornrows and I like him in
You ever seen Vitor's wife?
He can flex his face
and make it stand on end.
What?
She's a beautiful woman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a good horse.
He brought me and Nate Marquardt to train with him.
His wife came in.
I was like, huh?
I'll eat a spinning back kick to the face.
He's a fucking Brazilian hero.
If I can stare at her, I will eat a spinning back kick to the face.
And, uh.
Ooh.
She's a classic Brazilian hot chick.
Dude.
Oh, Larkin.
And their kids.
Costa, Philippou are throwing down.
He's got beautiful kids, right?
They look like X-Men, all of them.
Yep.
Beautiful children.
Both of these guys have their back up against the wall.
Oh!
Big kick by Larkin.
See, that's the difference between Larkin is the kicking technique.
I mean, Philippou threw a kick but missed.
But Larkin is real clean.
Philippou's going to counter one of these kicks with a big right hand.
Maybe.
Real clean. Hill Pooh's going to counter one of these kicks with a big right hand.
Ooh.
Maybe.
It's funny how these kicks start changing what becomes a trend.
Now everybody's throwing those oblique kicks.
It's a copycat league.
I'm telling you, man.
That front kick Anderson does, now everyone does it.
Everyone does it.
Wheel kicks, everyone does it.
Wheel kicks, that's a cool thing.
Superman punch was the thing like a denim jacket about two months ago.
I'm waiting for body shots with body punches to be like, God, there's a Fabio Malzano spot.
You know you're fighting a high-level striker if he's going to the body.
If he's comfortable going to the body.
Oh!
Big right hand by Philip Booth.
Oh!
Barkins coming back.
You're right.
He countered one of those kicks.
Hey, who am I?
We got ourselves a fight here.
I wanted to say that.
You took it out of our hands.
Oh, we tagged him.
Taking the wind out of my sails, ladies and gentlemen.
These guys are sweating.
Where is Costa Phillips training now?
These guys are strong.
Is he still training on Long Island?
Yeah, he's still on the East Coast.
I know that.
And his manager is Lex McMahon, one of the best in the business.
Does Phillip get calf implants?
Is there anybody that would ever fight with an
implant? Can you imagine?
Dude, there's girls that fight with
boobs and girls that fight with breast implants.
That's the number one implant for guys is calves.
Weird.
You'd think they'd have a dick implant by now.
They do. How do you know? I don't want to talk about it. In Africa, they'd have a dick implant by now. They do.
How do you know?
I don't want to talk about it.
In Africa, they sew rocks in there sometimes.
Yeah?
Say what?
You fucking with me?
In the entire continent?
Oh!
Oh!
Larkin went down.
Philippou.
Holy shit. Huge win for Philippou.
Yeah, buddy.
Holy shit.
Yeah, sometimes.
I don't know why.
I might have another pickle on that.
Dude, Philippou has got... He is jacked. He is sweating, sometimes. I don't know why. I might have another pickle on that. Dude, Phillip, he is jacked.
He is sweating, Brian.
He's jacked.
Wow.
That was a big win.
Here's my comment.
Huge win.
Phillip has got some muscle, huh, guys?
He lost his last two, man.
He needed that one.
Yeah, do or die on that one.
And not only that, I think he might have been the first guy to ever stop Lorenz Larkin, his
track force, or the UFC.
Look at him.
He's fucking wobbled, man.
A lot of power.
Ryan, remember when I said a lot of power?
You're talking shit?
Watch this.
Boom.
Left hook.
Look at this.
Boom.
Bang.
Oh, clean right hand.
Look how short that right hand is.
He hit his head on his head.
Folks at home, when you watch how short he threw that punch.
That's called power.
That's called power.
It's not just power.
It's technique because he didn't wind up and pull it way back before he launched it.
And that's why it landed in the first place.
And so people got to understand.
Donk.
Oh, beautiful.
It's high-level boxing.
That was a beautiful right hand.
There's your knockdown.
Bam.
Hard left hook.
And here's a right hand.
Cod.
Donk.
Donk. Oh, look at that lump right hand. Donk. Donk, donk, donk.
Oh, look at that lump that occurred underneath his ear.
What is that?
That's not even a bone.
So you know how Joe Silva, you'll see him in the ring when he congratulates guys?
What does he say to you?
Well, if he's unhappy with your fight, he doesn't come in the ring, even if you win.
If he's happy, he comes in and says, like, great job.
Has he ever said anything weird to you?
Something like, you're my idol.
I was like, come on, that's too much.
No, really?
Never.
Come on, hell no.
You're doing a Brian Callen.
Just a liar.
Is your cock as big as I hope?
My LeVar Johnson fight, when I just kept taking him down,
people were booing me, I was like, oh, where's Joe?
I won my fight.
Where is everybody?
Went in the back, he just walked right past me.
I was like, huh.
Yeah, but that's what you gotta do
when you're fighting LeVar Johnson.
That guy's ridiculous. What?
I went on the scale, and I turned to my coach.
I was like, I think he's on steroids. And he was like, nah, you're
the same size. I was like,
I look like him? Yeah. I'm like,
oh, fuck yeah. Alright.
I was in the hotel
taking selfies.
Blast them to chicks. And then after the fight, taking selfies, like, boom, boom, blasting the chicks.
And then after the fight, my coach was like, good Lord, that guy was way bigger, way better than you.
Like, what the fuck, man?
He's like, we just wanted to say that so you weren't so scared.
And he tested positive for steroids.
Steroids. That is fucking hilarious.
We're apparently behind live TV by 15 seconds.
We're behind live TV.
I got in a clinch with him.
Fast forward.
I got in a clinch with him.
I was like, this is not Snowflake.
This is not Snowflake.
Oh, the internet is behind by 15 seconds?
This is ridiculous.
This is strong.
So, folks, if you're watching this and you're like, you're behind, it's because of the internet.
So, back your fucking TiVo up by 15 seconds.
And by the way, if you don't have TiVo, go fuck your mother.
All right?
Go fuck your mother.
Fucking people who have to watch.
I was at a friend's house.
They don't even have a DVR.
I'm like, wait.
Why not use candles to light your house?
Why not live in the goddamn stone age?
How about you send me a message by a pigeon?
All right?
Write something down and send it over.
Staying with a good friend and, you know, their family, my family of friends.
And I saw that they had the channel where Glory was on.
They had Spike.
And I was like, oh, perfect.
I'll just watch it on the DVR.
I'm like, what is this?
Where's your fucking DVR?
I try to pause their TV.
I can't pause their TV.
What the fuck is happening?
What am I living in a different time?
Do you guys have steam-powered machines?
Look, Phillip was interviewing himself.
That's not true.
They look a lot alike.
They don't look anything alike.
For the joke they do.
For the joke they do.
What is this shirt there wear?
I don't know.
T with a backwards R.
It's a shitty shirt.
It's a torque.
It's a torque shirt.
Don't do it.
Whoever made that shirt, stop.
Yeah, I was going to say, it doesn't really.
Stop.
Kind of confusing.
If you want to get your name out there, don't spell it like that.
That's not the way.
Well, that's going to confuse the fuck out of people.
I'm confused right now.
Costa Phillip was a good guy, man.
I'm happy for him.
Me too.
Listen, I've lost two in a row.
That third fight is so stressful it's not even funny.
Because guess what?
You lose, you're going back to freaking dancing, shaking your ass for guys.
Wait, what?
What?
Wait a minute.
What?
I never did that.
There goes my boner again.
I mean, you're back at Starbucks.
Boner again.
You're back at Starbucks.
I'm sorry.
Why are my balls so sweaty?
But, bro, if you're at a high level and you lose two in a row and you're getting paid decent,
that third one you better win, otherwise you're getting your pink slip.
He was under a lot of pressure, man.
Is that like a hard rule or is that just kind of informal?
Depends on the guy.
Depends why you're getting paid.
Yeah, that's a weird thing.
If you have a good contract, there's certain guys that come in and they're highly touted
and they lose a couple of fights in a row.
You're making 400 Gs and you lose two in a row.
UFC's like, huh?
What are we doing?
But if they're fun fights, if it's an exciting fight and you're fighting top-level guys,
oh, look at that fucking right hand.
Jesus, that's beautiful.
Tell you what, losing two fights, that third fight, most stressful fight of my career.
How long has Phillip been in the UFC?
A long time.
Quite a while.
That's a beautiful combination, man.
That left hook, right hand.
That short right hand.
That's why I told you he's a fucking knockout artist, bro.
That right hand.
What did I say?
What happened?
The Fighter and the Kid podcast, available censored on Fox.
Not anymore.
No, they're not censoring anymore.
They're not censoring anymore.
Oh, they must have listened to me.
There it is.
Telling them you're going to leave.
Allowing, fucking
offering you guys to come over to
higherprimate.com for free.
We got Travis Barker, right?
Travis Barker on Wednesday.
That's cool.
He's a big fight fan.
He knows a lot about fighting.
Seems like a good dude, too.
You know what, man?
He's one of the nicest people I've ever met.
I feel like he's so nice.
You know when you meet someone and they're so nice, you think they want something from you?
Like, what do you want me to shoot?
See my dick or something?
What are you doing?
Like, what do you want to ride in my car?
I like how that's your first option.
You must want to see my dick.
Why is he so friendly?
I know what you mean, though.
When they're so nice, I'm like, yeah, cool, man.
You start taking my clothes off.
I don't know what's going on, bro. It's like they want something. I guess this know what you mean. When they're so nice, I'm like, yeah, cool, man. Just start taking my clothes off. I don't know what's going on, bro.
It's like they want something.
I guess this is what you want.
I'm not used to it.
He's genuinely nice.
When he was on Punk, too.
He was on Punk with Ahmed Ahmed.
Ahmed Ahmed was talking crazy shit to him in a restaurant.
And he was like, come on, motherfucker.
Let's go outside.
He's a rock star.
He's ready to drag someone outside and fight with him.
Bro, that dude's cardio is insane.
Really?
In the gym.
He does like 12 rounds in a row.
Really? Just mitts moving.
Insane.
Well, you think about what it takes to do drums.
Three hours.
Talking about the best drummer in the world.
Drums are a lot of cardio, man.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hold on.
Hey, bro.
Calm down about the best drummer in the world, but I understand.
Who's the best drummer? For sure, Parker. For sure, calm down with that the world, but I understand. Who's the best drummer?
For sure, calm down with that comment.
Who's the best?
Don't know because I'm not a drummer expert, but I'd imagine fucking Neil Peart's got something to say.
Who's Neil Peart?
He's about to make up that name.
The drummer for Rush?
Holy shit.
I'll leave right now.
I will leave this fucking podcast.
He's 85 and has a great bush and his nuts hang down on the drums.
Hey, bro.
We're talking about current guys.
Neil Peart is probably the best.
I'll tell you what.
Google best drummers.
I just did.
Best drummer in the world.
Thank you.
Okay.
Neil Peart?
Yeah.
According to you.
Fuck you, James.
Hey, hey, bro.
Watch the F word on this podcast.
You don't get to say.
There's a lot of people that believe in different things.
Josh Barker is definitely one of the best of all time.
You're out of your fucking mind.
Brian, watch your P's and Q's.
You need to understand that you're out of your mind, and I've had about enough.
It's hard to take you serious.
It's hard to take you serious.
Well, Neil Peart from Rush is on this, what I just looked up.
John Bonham from Led Zeppelin is number two.
Damn right he is.
Chad Smith from Red Hot Chili Peppers is number three.
You know, when they say still alive, it's like, is Ali the greatest boxer still alive?
Because I'm pretty sure that Vladimir Klitschko would fuck him up right now.
I'm pretty sure Brian would fuck him up right now.
Well put, well put, well put.
I'm talking about current drummers.
Travis Brown currently is the current.
Look at Pert's fucking drum set.
Look at that.
Yeah, he doesn't fuck around.
Any more questions, Brendan Shaw,
who doesn't know anything about drumming?
I take drum lessons.
I know Travis Barker's the best.
Hey, bro, I take drum lessons.
Brian, you're 57.
You don't know what 182 is. You have no idea. I've never heard of that band. Travis Barker can drum upside. Hey, bro, I take drum lessons. Brian, you're 57. You don't know what 182 is.
You have no idea.
I've never heard of that band.
Travis Barker can drum upside down, I'm pretty sure.
Yes.
Travis Barker's a bad motherfucker.
I will slap you right now you talk bad about Travis Barker.
Phil Collins is in here.
Joey Jordan, a lot of people think.
Who is he from?
What's he from?
Do we have any younger ones?
From Slipknot, Korn, and Rob Zombie.
There you go.
There you go.
He's another one that folks consider to be number one.
Yeah.
Whatever.
I believe the guy from the Allman Brothers.
Greg Allman?
Who is it who played the drums?
He doesn't play the drums.
I believe Hall and Oates might be the best.
Hall and Oates.
There's only two of them.
Which one's Hall and Oates?
By the way, I'll tell you who's a better looking guy than Big Brown,
Brendan Schaub, and that would be Mr. Silva.
Eric Silva?
Oh, yeah.
Good looking dude.
He's a beauty.
He's got a crowing.
He's that Bieber kind.
Fucking crowing.
He's the Bieber.
Crowing for a hair.
I am looking forward to this fight.
The only thing that I can hope is that this fight goes five fucking rounds.
He's got beautiful hair.
Really?
Yeah, I don't want it to be a quick one.
One, because I can't get enough pickles.
If I was a betting man, I would have bet over
on this fight, I'm just saying.
Over three? Over one and a half.
I can't believe Eric Silva is the fucking...
Over one and a half minus 150.
People, if you're out there and you can make a bet,
it's going to go past one and a half.
It's going to go over one and a half.
How much do you get for that?
It's minus 150, so you have to give away a little bit, but still, I think there's a pretty good chance it's going over go past 1.5. How much do you get for that? It's minus 1.50, so you have to give away a little bit.
But still, I think there's a pretty good chance it's going over 1.5.
That's a great bet.
I would tell you to bet the fucking farm on that.
Man.
Brendan, did you train with Michael Bisbing?
Yes, I did.
On Tuesday.
How's his eye?
Good.
Okay.
Your voice was two octaves too high.
Folks at home are not going to get to view this.
That was a weird pause because he went, good, good.
I mean, yeah, it seemed good.
We're sparring.
He's going hard with a heavyweight.
I'll tell you what, it was our warm-up round.
He came at me like a banshee.
Are we showing video here, Jamie?
By the way, here's a trivia question.
What is a banshee?
Don't look it up yet. What's a banshee? Don't look it up yet.
What's a banshee?
A banshee?
What's a banshee?
It's an avenging spirit.
Not bad. What's a banshee?
It's a very upset spirit.
Fucking liar. Some shit that screams.
It doesn't exist.
Hey, bro, there's a definition for what a banshee is. It's some shit that little kids believe
is real. A banshee, I believe,
and I think is an
Irish fairy of
mischief. Please look it up.
Why? Are you trying to, like, gain
brownie points from the oxalic
acid debacle of an hour ago?
Sorry, I read. Sorry you know the stupidest
facts of all time. Oxalic acid.
Why don't you go make me some fucking juice?
Hey, bro.
Yeah, Brian, that's the toxins.
I had no comeback.
I went, hey, bro, and I had no comeback.
What about the toxins, the other toxins?
The toxins in fucking leafy greens will kill you later.
What are those?
They're silent killers.
I feel great.
I feel great.
You want to know them?
I'll tell you what they are.
They're fucking chlorine.
Arsenic.
A lot of chlorine.
Oxycodone.
Cut farts.
What's wrong with you, really?
What is wrong with you?
What's wrong with you?
I'm a liar.
I say things for attention.
I don't like looking things up because it's a bore.
Who are you?
I just work on instinct, you fuck.
It's hard to believe.
When did Brian just drop all this stuff?
You stopped doing combat sports.
You stopped juicing.
You play tennis.
I never juiced in my life, but I will.
I'll start.
You play tennis.
You don't drink juice?
Oh, juicing.
I thought you meant juicing.
Press juice.
I drink.
I have press juices delivered to my house every day.
That's gangster.
God, it's so good.
Wait, you were right.
A fairy.
So good.
A banshee's a fairy woman
who begins to wail
if someone is about to die.
Don't fuck with my boy Aubrey.
Just don't fuck with my boy Aubrey.
Aubrey's no joke.
He doesn't say shit
unless he knows
what he's talking about.
He's very different
from you in that respect.
No wonder Aubrey...
If Aubrey doesn't know
he's got this crazy thing he does,
he goes,
I don't know.
You should try it.
Brian makes the...
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
I don't know.
That's a bore. Just try it every now and then. Ask me any question. I'll give you an answer. Bro, don't be bomb. Fuck that. I love it. Fuck that. I don't know. That's a bore.
Just try it every now and then.
Ask me any question.
I'll give you an answer.
Bro, don't be scared.
Try it every now and again.
Fuck you.
If somebody has their hood open in their car, I'll come over and give an opinion.
I know nothing about cars.
I literally will come over and go, find a wrench on the side of the road and pick it
up and see if it fits.
You check the fucking carburetor?
Do you have distributor caps?
Distributor caps?
What's your fucking...
How's the AVAC valve on that?
This is a big fucking fight for Matt Brown and for Eric Silva.
Look at this.
Here's the rankings.
See, okay.
Matt Brown, rank number seven.
Eric Silva, not even on the fucking top ten.
And yet, they have him as a 2-1 favorite.
That's crazy.
By the way, what a fucking...
Look at that.
Look at that feel.
Look at how tough.
Look at that shit.
It's a crazy feel.
Holy shit.
But that's also why, allegedly,
Aubrey has made
a shit-fuck ton of money
Yes, there you go.
on my advice.
Allegedly.
What is the percentage, allegedly?
Like 80%?
Allegedly, it'd be pretty fucking high.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
There was that one fight where, allegedly, we won 10 out of 11 on that card.
So you allegedly talked to Joe Rogan before you put money, allegedly, on fights, and you're 10 for 11.
There's certain ones I go, bet the fucking farm on Tyron Woodley, allegedly.
Hey, bro.
There's certain ones where I go, wait, wait, wait.
Allegedly, can you give me some of those tips?
Yeah, I will, But you won't bet
You'll go
I talked to a buddy
Who used to be a Navy SEAL
He gave me
Contrary advice
I wanted to make him happy
So I showed him my slips
I showed him my slips
I have a friend
Hey let's hear this
This breakdown
Dude
Oh it's me
How convenient
This is a fucking Great fight man Oh, it's me. How convenient.
This is a fucking great fight, man.
Really good fight.
Well, I love just Matt Brown.
That's been out for a little bit.
It hurt his back.
Yeah, that's what I'm interested in this.
He not just hurt his back.
He fucking herniated discs where he had to pull out of a big fight.
He was supposed to fight Condit.
Pulled out. And herniated discs are not something to pull out of a big fight. He was supposed to fight Condit. Huge fight for him.
And herniated discs are not something that heals up real quick, man.
You know, I know.
I had them.
You know, it took me a long fucking time of a lot of different types of therapies to deal with my bulging disc that I had.
You know what's weird is Matt Brown, he came to Denver to train with us one time, and I
was like, oh, this pace is going to be insane.
Watch him spar with Neil Magny.
Nope.
Nope.
It's a different, like, his octagon pace and his sparring pace is completely different.
Well, he probably just put in work.
You know, he's probably smart about that in that sense.
Was he with Beecher? Yes beach is a good dude man really good dude beach is the guy who turned me on to my tattoo artist oh really who's your tattoo artist aaron delavadova
from guru tattoo in san diego great fucking guy do you have to go down to san diego yeah yeah
san diego he um he did, I talked to Beecher.
I was like, who did your fucking sleeve?
He's like Aaron Delvedova.
The guy's fucking awesome.
He gave me his number.
I called the guy.
Guy's cool as shit.
I saw his stuff online.
And it was worth it for me to drive down there.
Do you have both, just your arms?
Both guys are Aaron Delvedova.
And is your back and chest done too?
No, nothing's done.
But these two arms.
Just arms.
Yeah, both sleeves.
Both done by the same guy.
He's awesome. I want to get just one sleeve. I. Just arms. Yeah, both sleeves. Both done by the same guy. He's awesome.
I want to get just one sleeve. I don't know.
Yeah, I did too, but I had this idea
to do this Miyamoto Musashi sleeve.
It was kind of important to me.
So I said, fuck it.
That's Book of Five Rings. I love that book.
Oh, look at Eric Silva slapping himself
before Matt Brown does.
Their press poster for this fight was pretty fucking epic.
Pretty intense.
Both of them just roaring.
Yeah.
They're pretty intense dudes, man.
Fuck yeah, man.
It's like the young lion versus the established lion.
It's pretty fucking cool.
How old is this kid?
He's a killer.
He's young.
I mean, I don't think he's older than 25.
I think he is. Is he older? I want to say he's like 27, I don't think he's older than 25. I think he is.
Is he older?
I want to say he's like 27, 28.
Okay, let's pull it up.
Eric Silva.
I feel like Kim and Bieber were separated at birth.
One went to Brazil and became a fighter.
He's actually 29.
29, yeah.
Wow.
I guess I'm probably basing it on how old he was.
He looks 21.
Is that not a Polynesian tattoo? He looks 21. He, yeah. Wow. I guess I'm probably basing it on how old he was when he first started in the UFC. He looks 21.
He looks 21.
Yeah, I kind of forget the guy's age.
They enter the UFC.
There's Valigi.
Look at him.
Ice cream.
Oh, look at him.
Ice cream for you, my friend.
Valigi.
Ishmael.
His last name is Ishmael.
Ishmael.
Valigi.
Valigi.
That guy, he rides one of those little crotch rockets
and he takes himself
does he?
oh yeah
he does?
he's a serious dude
I saw him in gold
out here?
yep
yeah he used to work out
in golds all the time
no he's still there
great guy
I saw him the other day
great guy
original Carlson Gracie
black belt
yes he is
choked Hoist Gracie
unconscious
in Rio
on the beach
yep
that was a great
fucking match
I think he beat Henso
didn't he?
didn't he beat Henso as well in a jiu-jitsu match?
You might be right.
Yep.
You might be right.
I believe he did.
He's a serious.
Yeah, he's a tank.
That was back when there was the rivalry, the Carlson Greasy rivalry with Elio's kids,
the Elio side.
There's all these rivalries.
It's crazy.
Always, right?
It's crazy. It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Within a family.
Even in the family.
Like, Hoist criticizes Henner and Heron for doing the Gracie University.
Like, I don't get that criticism, man.
I really don't.
A lot of guys think that you can't have jiu-jitsu instructions online.
Of course you can.
Is it as good as being there in person?
No, it's not.
Is it still good?
Yes, it is.
Still makes Jiu-Jitsu available to a lot of people who can't get to the gym. I have a buddy
who lives in Kentucky, man. He lives in the middle of fucking
nowhere. And him and his buddies, they watch
videos and they practice together. And that's
all he has. He's
like two hours away from anything. You can get better that way.
You can simply get better that way. But that's
how Rich Franklin learned. A lot of guys
learned like that, man. So did Boss Ritten.
Evan Tanner.
Boss Ritten said in the beginning he was kind of self-taught.
Well, he definitely learned a lot of grappling that way.
Yeah.
Not striking.
He's also just a gorilla.
He is.
Boss.
How about when he was doing, like, just demonstrating shit for us?
Like, I was just like...
He's getting Regenikine done at the same place where I get mine done.
On his arm?
On his neck.
He's got a real problem though For folks at home man
Here's the thing that my doctor told me
Once you start getting numbness
And then you start getting atrophy
If you don't catch that shit quick
You have a small window where your nerves
Have the possibility
Did he just stumble there and slip?
That scares me
Imagine if he ripped his fucking knee right there.
And then played it off.
You have a small window when you lose muscle and size.
When you start atrophying, it's only a couple of months, he said.
And in those couple of months, if you don't get surgery
or don't get something that reduces the pressure on the nerves,
those nerves can die off, and then you never get them back.
And there's nothing you can do?
He said it never comes back 100%.
Never.
Because Bas Rutten was telling me he was trying all these different things to get his nerves back,
but it's a long fucking time.
It's been years.
He's got this massive atrophy on his right arm.
Bas had neck problems all the way back to the Toshiko Saka fight when he won the UFC heavyweight title.
Couldn't wrestle, training for that fight.
Same shit as Carwin.
Had, like, serious neck injuries and couldn't fucking wrestle.
And so then I think he was Sons of Anarchy.
He was doing stunts for, and he fell on his head and spiked on his neck.
It's, like, serious fucking pain.
Dumb fucking trick, yeah.
Herniated disc in the neck, atrophy of the nerves, like the whole deal.
But Boss is just such an animal.
He's like one of those guys that, like, if he gets injured, he just sucks it up and keeps working out.
He's one of the original fighters who was a freak athlete, I feel like.
Just picked up things so fast.
He was one of the best strikers in the early days of MMA.
Nasty striker.
How would Boss do now?
Who of the old guys...
You can't ask like that because
it's so evolved. The whole game's not the same.
It's evolved.
I try to do the boss route and
jumping double kick on the trampoline all the time.
It's totally useless.
Unless you're in a movie.
Hence the trampoline.
And two dummies are running at you.
I would imagine Matt Brown sets a super high pace.
Being in his hometown, he's come out pretty amped up.
Well, it's also a big question.
How much time has he had to fix that back?
You've got to remember, this is five rounds.
So that pace, there's no way you can do it for five rounds.
You just can't.
I don't know what his injury was like,
but I know that Matt Serra, when he came back from herniating a disc in his back and he fought GSP,
he was really not the same.
He was really not the same.
And most guys, when they injure a disc in their back,
your back is a lot like your knee, which is a lot like your brain.
That's the good analogy.
A guy doesn't understand what a brain injury is like.
When you get KO'd and then you get KO'd again easily afterwards,
it's just like tweaking a knee and you rip a ligament and you get it fixed,
but then your knee is always kind of sore.
When you hurt your back, though, it's so different
because it's connecting your nerves to all your muscles.
Is there anything worse? A back injury?
I don't think so.
Because I've never seen anything, except, I guess, a brain trauma.
But I've never seen anything as far as a mixed mixed martial arts related injury that can just end it.
Back or neck.
Yeah.
Back or neck can end it.
And your arms shrivel.
Your legs shrivel.
I have a friend and he had two back surgeries and for whatever reason it didn't take.
And his leg is, he has one leg that's shriveled.
Like his right calf is like a bone.
Damn.
And he's super self-conscious about it.
He like wears sweatpants.
He won't wear shorts, and he's all fucked up about it.
Yeah, man.
He's hoping it comes back, but the reality is if it's more than a certain amount of time,
it ain't coming back.
Yeah, that's tough.
So if you're out there and you got any sort of an injury Fucking don't tough it out
Deal with it
Deal with it immediately
Go get it fixed
Look into some prolo too
Fuck yeah
Prolo therapy
Prolo ozone
I had prolo therapy on my neck
And it worked for me
No you didn't
Yes I did
You had a neck problem man?
Yeah
When?
Chewing jujitsu
When?
When I had
Showering
I really did have prolo therapy and they shot it in my neck.
They shoot, I think, a saline solution in your neck.
Sugar.
No.
Sugar.
Whatever it is, and it worked.
Oh, look at the stare down.
Matt Brown's intense.
Oh, boy.
This is a fucking serious stare down.
Nose to nose.
By the way, exactly the same height, about to kiss.
Good stuff.
There you go.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
No.
You know what's interesting about Matt Brown?
He doesn't move that fluidly.
Like, if you looked at the way he moves and strikes and everything like that,
you wouldn't, like, there's certain guys you look at them,
like, perfect example, Hector Lombard.
You look at a move and you go, oh, fucking Christ.
See this pace?
Look at this pace.
Not that, just super.
Look at this pace.
Oh!
Oh, head kick!
He's getting guys fucking faces.
Maybe.
With his back, he might just let him take him down.
Boom.
Reverse.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Rolls him over on top.
This is what I'm talking about.
Head kick.
This is what I'm talking about.
High pace, charged up, home crowd.
Body kick.
It's tough, man.
Brown breaks motherfuckers, too.
He does.
Oh, good body kick
But he's also
Like eating shots
And comes back
He's not a front runner man
Oh no
Big liver kick
Oh no
He's fucking hurt man
He's hurt
Don't stop it
He's not locked out
Oh he's
He's gonna survive
Whoa
He'll survive
But look at this
Eric Silva's got his back
He's gotta work that defense.
But, you know, if you can get a hold of a glove, this is a good little break right here.
Two on one.
If you get two on one, you're pretty safe.
Oh, this is just a neck crank here.
How about zero on one?
I know.
Why doesn't he turn into the choke?
I know.
Turn towards his right.
He doesn't have body triangle either.
He might be taking a little break.
How long does it take to recover from a kick like that?
Bro, a tight body
kick, you're in trouble for a while.
Depends entirely on how hard you get kicked.
That was bad.
Jordan Meehan dropped him with a fucking body
shot. He hit him with a vicious body
punch. Two on one.
Now he's trying to get to the right
of it. This is great back control.
Sort of, but he's got his legs
crossed. If Matt Brown steps over that he could at least make his legs uncomfortable.
He doesn't have his legs crossed again.
But then, like, when Hickson choked out Funaki, he had his legs crossed too.
But Hickson ain't worried about that shit.
Come on.
Oh, he's got it deep now.
Shit.
Nope.
Oh, boy.
It's just a neck crank.
If it fits under the shoulder.
What's he doing? Oh, man, that is a neck fucking crank. What is he doing? It's just a neck crank. If it fits under the shoulder. What's he doing?
Oh, man.
That is a neck fucking crank.
What is he doing?
It's not under the neck.
It's not under the chin.
There you go.
Two on one for the love of God.
Defend your neck.
It's such a weird thing.
Please defend your neck.
Allegedly bet on the over in a fight.
He's got a full body triangle, but he's not rolling towards the triangle side.
Why is he not doing that?
Now he's doing a good thing. Now he's doing a good thing.
Now he's doing a good thing.
See how he's – you know, I seen a guy tap once from an arm bar from that position.
He got two on one on a guy's arm and then extended it against his neck.
That's exhausting for him though right now, right?
It's exhausting.
For Eric Silver or for Matt Brown?
No, for Matt Brown.
Yeah, but Matt Brown likes being exhausted.
Not too bad.
Does he?
Jesus, he's tough.
He wants a – he's tough. Fuck, he's tough. Yep, they're UFC fighters. Pretty tough. Hey, but Matt Brown likes being exhausted. Not too bad. Does he? Yeah. Jesus, he's tough. He wants a grip.
He's tough.
Fuck, he's tough.
Yep.
They're UFC fighters.
Pretty tough.
Hey, you calm down back there.
What's your name again?
Oh, he fucked up, though.
He trapped his right arm.
That's dirty.
He fucked up.
Now he's going to take that other hand out.
He's fine.
You've got it back.
Bro.
This is very nerve-wracking.
We've got two minutes left.
But you know what?
Matt Brown, he relishes these kind of fights, man.
He wants this gritty fight.
This is a lot of exertion.
This gritty as shit.
But Eric Silva tried several times to exert a lot of energy to try to finish him.
And when he's trying to do it, he trapped that arm again.
You see how his heel is blocking his arm from coming in?
And he's out.
He's out.
He's up.
Oh, boy.
Holy shit.
Here comes the knee, son.
Oh, there goes one of the body. That body shot was great. And, son. Oh, there goes one to the body.
That body shot was great.
And there's an elbow.
And another knee to the body.
And this is like the thing.
Eric Silva.
My God, Matt Brown is rough.
Matt Brown is rough.
Oh, he's coming on, man.
What is going on?
Eric Silva's in trouble.
All that exertion.
And this is a kid that wilted against John Fitch.
Same sort of scenario. Matt Brown does not stop coming. All that exertion. This is a kid that wilted against John Fitch. Same sort of scenario.
Matt Brown does not stop coming.
This pace is insane.
God, Brian, keep making comments like this.
He forces guys into war.
Holy shit, he's tough.
Sorry, I can't help it. I'm excited.
Boy, these guys sweat a lot.
Guys, these guys are all muscle.
There's no fat on them.
A minute and 20 seconds in.
No bullshit aside, this is crazy.
This is crazy.
The crowd is going nuts.
He's rugged.
He's rugged.
This is exactly what Matt Brown wants.
Matt, keep your hands up, Matt.
Keep your hands up, please.
Shut the fuck up.
Keep his hands up.
Oh!
Oh, Eric Silva's in trouble, man.
Oh, no.
Beautiful trip.
Eric Silva's exhausted.
Punch him.
Oh, good block of that knee.
Are you kidding me? Oh, took one to the head. Elbow. Matt's about to break him, I feel like. Oh, good block of that knee. Are you kidding me?
Oh, took one to the head.
Elbow.
Matt's about to break him, I feel like.
45 fucking seconds is a long time when you're getting beat on like this.
Boom.
I love that throw.
That's Muay Thai, too.
That's that Muay Thai dump.
Oh, man.
He's all over this kid.
He's exhausted, man.
Oh, what is he doing?
He kicked him out of the ribs.
Is that a head kick?
No.
It was right in the ribs.
Jesus Christ.
Last thing I want to see is this fight fucking stopped on a DQ.
Oh, dude.
Wow.
Silva's exhausted.
Look at him.
Holy shit.
He's walking away.
Don't do that.
He can't even pick his legs up to kick.
Somebody's going out.
It's crazy.
Matt Brown.
Matt Brown.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's crazy for your morale.
Uppercut.
Uppercut.
Are you joking me?
He drags dudes into hell, man.
I want to get to. Oh, boom. Wow. Let'sercut. Uppercut. He drags dudes into hell, man. I want to get to...
Oh, boom.
Wow.
Let's go to the second round.
Wow.
Please let this fight keep going.
Please let it keep going.
Shit.
You guys didn't even bet on the over.
Are you kidding me?
I didn't bet on it.
Wow.
Did you bet this fight?
Dude, he won that round.
One and a half rounds.
Holy shit.
Oh, my God.
Are you kidding?
Damn, that was a crumb round.
You clearly gave that round to Matt, right?
Oh, yeah.
Thank you.
100%.
Wow.
That's not even close.
God damn.
Let me see the replays on that.
Wow, that was ridiculous.
No, this is a commercial for Bud Light.
Fuck.
Arnold Schwarzenegger wearing a wig.
I've seen this commercial a thousand times.
Matt came out like a banshee.
Looks like Arnold can play some ping pong, actually.
He has a pair of legs on him.
You haven't seen me play ping pong.
It actually kind of looks like a ball. On the map play some ping pong, actually. He has a pair of legs on him. You haven't seen me play ping pong. It actually kind of looks like the ball.
On the map round of ping pong.
Has anybody suffered less from fucking their housekeeper and getting her pregnant than Arnold?
He's the greatest.
He went right into that to several giant movies.
Suffered less.
I don't think I'm speaking out of turn.
Has anyone's career flourished?
I asked him about that, and he goes, what did you do?
And he goes, just laid low.
I swear to God. I swear to God.
I swear to God. I go, what did you do when that happened? Because he was going to do a movie
where he has a Spanish lover
and they said, look, it's probably not a good idea.
And I go, what did you do with that? And he goes,
I just laid low.
Yeah, he has a remarkable vision
of what's going on.
He's kind of untouchable.
Here's a replay.
Oh my god!
And you see him tighten up.
Boom!
Brown is all over Silva.
That's the thing about Matt Brown.
You can't blow your wad on this motherfucker
because he relishes.
Look at this. He relishes war.
Look at this pace! Are you kidding me?
Two and a half minutes, boys. Come on. You can make it.
Matt Brown's fired up, son.
That's it?
A round and a half, and you win the bet?
Yeah.
I don't think your boy Silva's going to make it.
Silva's getting fucking boxed up.
He's going to have to hurt Matt Brown.
I'm assuming the kids are going to win.
Oh!
Another one.
He's going to win with that kick.
You need a takedown.
You need a takedown.
That's the same kick he fucked Sato up with, his last opponent.
Oh.
Both a little fatigued.
How could you not be?
Well, I mean, Matt Brown just ate another liver kick.
He throws that front kick to the liver.
Are you kidding me?
Oh.
Oh, God.
This kid will drag you into fucking hell, man.
Take him down.
Short elbows, too. Got to love it. He's got a really weird strength into fucking hell, man. Take him down. Short elbows, too.
Gotta love it.
He's got a really weird strength and conditioning program, too.
What does he do?
He'll do five-minute rounds, like holding a 100-pound ball.
Can I get my fucking kettlebells, please?
You guys just gotta get the address.
Email me your address.
I got nothing right now.
You write it down on that yellow sheet.
You don't have any workout equipment at home?
I'm getting a Matt Brown tattoo.
I'll tell you that much.
What would a Matt Brown tattoo be?
It's going to cover my entire torso and my back.
Would it be him?
Oh, man.
Oh, Jesus.
This dude is just eating shots.
Silva tried a trip, but he has nothing in him.
This could be it.
How much more time do you need to operate?
I need a minute.
You need a takedown, bro.
I think the kid might last
a minute.
I'm feeling that you might
graze the head. All that hair
protects him. Oh my god!
He's all done. Silva's tough, though.
There's no way this kid's lasting five minutes, I'll tell you
that. I agree. He's exhausted.
He's not going to win, and he's not going to last.
He's just not going to. At this point...
I hate when guys do that!
He's exhausted. He's exhausted. The only thing that he's not going to last. He's just not going to. At this point, he's exhausted.
He's exhausted.
The only thing that's keeping him up right now is heart and will.
Does Silva have a huge weight cut?
Yes, he does.
Yes, he does.
He's a big guy.
I've seen him walk around outside the octagon in between fights, and I was like, Jesus.
That left hand is nasty.
Very nasty.
25 seconds, boys.
You know, Matt Brown's only upper body workout he does for his arm.
Oh, he kicked him again.
The liver kick.
Matt Brown, he does dumbbell presses, and that's it.
By the way, Silva can take a fucking hit.
Oh!
He's hurt.
Matt Brown's hurt.
Oh, my God.
His poor liver.
Incredible.
Well, he might have a broken rib.
I mean, if he's getting hurt that easy beautiful take down the side control ladies and gentlemen damn
mountain crucian he better get energy or you're gonna stop the fight here we
crucifix and just keep that well I'll tell you what Matt Brown also is a very
good fucking ground game too a lot of people don't respect that ground game. His ground game is nasty.
I got it.
If he can step over this.
Oh, boy.
Oh, no, no, no.
Oh, my God.
Oh, man.
Oh, boy.
You got to attack the arm.
What do you call that move?
What is that?
The fucking inverted triangle.
Yeah, that's a bad position for.
It's the other way, though, right?
That's hell for Silva.
He needs to attack that.
How is Silva breathing right now?
There he goes.
Uh-oh.
He's, uh, he's, nope, he lost it.
This is a wild fucking fight, man.
This is what I love about mad brown fights.
They're wild.
Did you never see a boring head of oil?
Oh, he's done.
The kid's done.
He's just, he can't, he can't defend.
Look at his left arm.
It's like it's just floating around there.
He's not doing anything.
He's just hoping to get a break
It's like a darch
It's almost like a darch from the mount
Wow he let go
Oh my goodness this is going to be it
This kid's not getting out of the mount
He's really not landing anything though
Yeah but Eric Silva doesn't have anything left
Look at
You know I love Herb Dean in these situations.
Because look how closely and calmly Herb Dean's looking at this.
He's not freaking out.
And I like how he took a knee so his legs don't burn out like the big guy.
Arm bar!
Oh!
He's out of the circle!
Triangle!
Triangle!
Holy shit.
Matt Brown is something else.
He locked it up!
He locked up the triangle!
Silva's in trouble. Hooks the leg. He locked up the triangle. Silva's in trouble.
Hooks the leg.
He's attacking the arm, too.
Silva's killing it.
He needs to keep attacking the arm.
Yeah, the arm is the shit.
But he also needs to hook that leg.
Keeping that leg is important.
Oh, he slipped out.
He's got slippery hair.
Oh, this is a fucking heart attack.
Slippery hair.
Another triangle's coming up.
Holy shit.
If you had bit the over for two rounds, you'd be having a goddamn heart attack right now.
Look at this.
Silva's on top.
What is going on?
Oh, my God.
Matt Brown's going to get his back for the end of this round.
Nope.
20 seconds.
This fucking fight is incredible.
He just needs to attack the ground and have the body.
I feel sorry for the people that are watching this online that are 15 seconds behind.
Because we're talking.
Meanwhile, the fight could be over.
This is nuts.
Just pause your DVR, you fucks.
Stay with us.
My 15 seconds.
Talk about a main event, man.
You want to talk about being inspired?
What are we doing?
I got to go piss out of my dick, my huge dick.
Oh, my God.
This is incredible.
What a fucking fight.
So far, best fight I've ever seen.
Hey, so Michael Bisping's eye.
Let's go back to this because we're in between rounds.
It's good.
Is it all right?
Is it all right?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Damn, dude.
You may be the worst actor of all time.
Don't ever try to go into acting after you start
when we're smart he seemed good he seemed good it's like one of them's dark
yeah he's looking at me he's looking at me like let's not talk about this
all right i'll let this go i'm gonna yeah he wouldn't ask i would if i asked him he wouldn't
tell me you know what you going to do?
He's a tough motherfucker.
He's having problems, too.
He's got a weak arm.
Really?
Same thing.
Yeah, pinched nerves.
Heron.
Your boy, Heron?
Heron, yeah.
Same issue.
I know.
Well, I rolled with Heron last week for the first time in about six months because he
had a neck issue.
Yeah.
How's he doing now?
Is he better?
Yeah, way better.
What did he do to get better?
He saw some specialists in Beverly Hills.
Oh, yeah?
What did the guy tell him?
I'm not sure.
What a fucking fight this is so far.
I want to see that body shot.
Matt Brown, dig into the body.
Dude.
Yeah.
Oh, there it is.
Out of nowhere, he hurt him.
I mean, Matt Brown was coming on strong.
Here we go.
Round three, bitches.
Throw to the body.
This is a matter of whether or not Eric Silva
has that second wind in him.
These motherfuckers that cut
all this incredible weight. It catches up
with you, right? Especially in this kind of
a fight. Because Matt Brown's not
a big guy. He's not cutting
a shit ton of weight. He's not a 200 pounder.
Oh, man. He's not cutting a shit ton of weight. He's not a 200 pounder. Oh, bro. Oh, man.
He's just breaking, motherfuckers.
Just breaking their
will. Oh, God. This is awesome.
Oh. Spinning back and forth.
And he's just constantly on you.
There's no breaks. There's no rest.
There's no breaks. Your heart rate's
constantly going...
You know who I would fucking love to see fight Matt Brown?
Nick Diaz.
I think that might be the greatest fight in the history of the universe.
You might be right.
Are we back?
Oh, my God.
Matt Brown versus Nick Diaz might be the greatest matchup of all time.
How does that go down?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Just chaos.
Just pure chaos.
Well, you know, Diaz is not a guy that's going to wilt like Eric Silva is.
I think this kid, I think there's a lot of people that do great in training,
and they do great when they're not cutting the weight,
and then they cut the weight and they think they're going to be okay,
but they don't take into account the diminished effect that it has on your body.
I mean, it has a big effect on your body.
When you're in a war like this, you really shouldn't be fighting a fucking guy like this
at 170 pounds.
You know in football games when it gets to the...
Oh!
In overtime when they go, this is a war of nutrition.
Nah, bitch.
For reals, this is a war of nutrition.
They never say nutrition.
They never say nutrition.
They say attrition.
But the point...
You know what I'm saying.
You got the point.
I got you. I've got a lot of coffee. All right? I hear you, but thisrition. But the point, we get your point. You know what I'm saying. You got the point. I got you.
I've got a lot of coffee.
But I hear you, but this is a podcast.
I'd probably let that go if this wasn't on the internet.
Got brows on top of him.
Fucking Eric Silva up.
Ooh, there's a cut now, though.
Now they're going to look to stop it with the bleeding.
He's mixing up.
Where's the blood?
Eric Silva's bleeding?
He's not protecting himself.
Do you stop it now or no?
Nope.
Nope.
Herb Dean will give him some chances, man.
He's pushing off a little bit with his feet.
Push those feet.
But that's it.
That's it.
He turtled up.
He gave up.
Wow.
Matt Brown.
Fuck you, odds makers.
You bitches were wrong twice.
These odd makers are horny.
Look at that guy in the Chuck Liddell outfit.
Chuck Liddell looks good.
Look at Eric Silva.
He is beaten down.
That motherfucker broke him.
Matt Brown is a beast.
That's fucking crazy.
He is a fucking beast.
What a great fight.
Holy shit, that was fun.
I wonder what he's going to say about his ribs.
What's Joe Silva doing?
He's in the ring.
He liked the fight.
We know the secret code.
He's already making the next fight.
He's texting Johnny Hendricks. He's texting Nick Diaz. He's texting someone? We know the secret code. He's already making the next fight. He's texting Johnny Hendricks.
He's texting Nick Diaz.
He's listening to this podcast.
We're like, that's a great idea, Rogan.
Elbows to the eyeball.
He just elbowed him right in the eye socket.
That's where the cut came from.
Hey, Tim, I mean, Silva gave it a serious fight, though.
Well, he did in the first round.
But really, the only thing he did is that one left kick to the body.
He just wiped blood off of his eye.
Yeah, he took too much blood.
Yeah.
You know, it's just he's not in that league, man.
He's just not in that league.
This guy's in a hell league.
He really is.
Hell league.
Membership.
Look at him.
Just him, though.
There's really no one else like this.
He is rough as it gets.
He's been in there for a long time.
He knows what it feels like to be in hell.
I'm just super impressed.
He embraces it.
I'm super impressed that he bounced back from those herniated discs, too.
Not a scratch on his face.
He can go drink a beer right now.
God, can he ever.
Wow, that took some shots to the liver.
He needs to do some core work, maybe.
Help his discs, help the body shots.
I'm sure he did something.
He has a very unique training regimen.
They were talking about it on my
message board. They were detailing it,
talking about some of the things he does. He carries a
barrel filled with water.
You have to carry it
with your hips and he carries it for five rounds
and moves around with it. Does a lot of crazy
shit. Interesting shit.
All like hips and cores
and glutes. All a bunch of
things that his strength and conditioning coach is some pretty controversial ideas.
Monday you're going to see on my Instagram me just carrying a big-ass water bottle around.
Not knowing what the fuck I'm doing.
It's a copycat league, everybody.
You know what else works?
Girls.
True.
Could carry girls.
Get a heavy chick.
They're uneven.
Big old heavy chick.
No, not like a barrel.
The thing about a barrel is you can't clasp your hands around.
So what does he do?
I don't understand.
Hoist it up You know
Arches his back
You have to have your hips
Into it
Yeah exactly
You have to have your hips
Into it the same way
You would take a person down
If you have bad technique
You're not going to be able
To hold the barrel up very well
Or even defend to take down
Who are these fucking jokers
I'll tell you what
These little skinny neck bitches
Don't know shit about MMA
Shut your mouth
They probably made the odds
That's probably the odd makers Jay and Dan Did you make the odds You fuckheads Why don't know shit about MMA. Shut your mouth. They probably made the odds. That's probably the odd makers.
Jay and Dan, did you make the odds, you fuckheads?
Why don't you go talk about cricket?
Talk about some shit you understand.
So I guess the podcast is over, right?
I mean, is this basically over?
That was a good time.
Good fight.
I think I'm calling this a success.
I think this is probably the greatest idea we've ever had, ever, collectively.
Brilliant. Come see me in Edmonton and Toronto. I think this is probably the greatest idea we've ever had, ever, collectively. Brilliant!
Come see me in Edmonton and Toronto.
Matt, look at this.
Eric Silva still hasn't gotten up, man.
He's sitting there.
He's exhausted.
He's broken.
And you know what he else is?
He's realizing right now, I'm not going to be the champion.
I might be able to.
He can't beat that guy, right?
I'm not going to beat that guy.
I'm not going to beat guys like him, and I'm not going to beat guys that can beat him.
Maybe he needs to fight at 85.
Yeah, well, maybe he needs to stop lifting weights.
This is the thing that dudes have to realize.
Look at Matt Brown.
Not a big guy, man.
I wish I could hear this.
Give him some volume.
Who do you want to see fight for a title next?
Campaigning for the title.
It's a little early for that, maybe.
Well, he's won eight in a row now.
I don't know about that, man.
He's won eight in a row.
I don't know about that.
I would say I would definitely let him fight for the title.
I mean, Hendricks right now,
Johnny has to recover from a torn bicep surgery.
This is the thing about the top of the food chain.
So if you're fighting Woodley, if you're fighting Roy McDonald,
you're fighting Hendricks, and you come forward like that, you're going hendrix and you come forward like that you're gonna take it down you're right it's a
different animal right it's a totally it's all about matchups now him versus carlos conda that's
an amazing fight because carlos isn't shooting a double leg yeah but carlos has got acl reconstruction
he does he's gonna be out yes he's out for a while. I'm just saying certain guys,
the top three guys at the
very top are horrible matchups for him.
I don't know about all that, man.
But here's the thing. What if Woodley
beats Hendricks for the title,
Matt Brown fights Woodley, and it
gets into the fourth round?
I agree. The thing about this motherfucker
is, look, I don't think there's
a baddest man on the planet anymore. And it is. I totally agree about matchups. I totally agree. The thing about this motherfucker is, look, I don't think there's a baddest man on the planet anymore.
And it is.
I totally agree about matchups.
I totally agree.
But this kid, man, I'm telling you, Matt Brown might be as fierce as anybody I've ever seen fight.
As anybody.
And everybody was saying that when he was in the Octagon.
Or rather when he was on the Ultimate Fighters.
There was a thing about him.
It's just he breaks motherfuckers.
He breaks motherfuckers.
And I don't think people realize breaking another UFC fighter is insane.
Insane.
Especially when they're ranked number 14 in the world.
I mean, think about the gritty guys you've seen.
He throws those elbows, man, just over and over.
I mean, out of all the guys who have fought in the UFC, who's fiercer?
I mean, Vanderlei when he was in Pride, right?
Vanderlei when he's in Pride is another level.
But he was also juiced to the gills.
That's why I mean another level.
It's a different thing.
It's a different thing.
The guy's having a real struggle tying that belt.
All sorts of.
Yeah, that guy needs to learn how to tie a belt.
You can't give a belt if you don't know how to tie a belt.
What's that fucking granny knot?
That shit.
What are you, fishing?
What are you doing there?
You're tying up a boat?
That thing fucking is all goofy on the back.
Look at this.
That guy ruined the fight for me.
Cock-eyed and shit.
Look at the little cuties, man.
Oh, these boys.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
That's adorable.
Imagine that.
You will go to your fucking room when your dad tells you to go to your room.
Damn right you will.
Your dad's Matt Brown.
Those kids, they just watch some crazy shit that they don't understand.
Look at their eyes.
Look at their eyes.
They're getting a serious bite.
Pure scared.
Look at their eyes.
Plus genetics.
UFC active win streak, John Jones, 11.
Hennon Burrell, 7.
Matt Brown, 7.
Wow.
Damn.
Weidman, 7.
That's impressive.
The difference is Weidman, never lost.
John Jones, never lost. Henn Weidman, never lost. John Jones, never lost.
Hennon Burrell, never lost.
None of those guys have ever lost in the Arctic.
Wow.
The last time Matt lost was Seth Bozinski, which is pretty crazy.
He's choking around.
Yeah, they're choking around.
You know how happy he is right now?
Yeah, no kidding.
That's a big, big win.
But I'm just saying after a war like that, he's fine.
Like you said, he can come out and have a beer.
He's so right, too.
He was completely disrespected by the odds.
You know, he's talked about it quite a bit in the pre-fight that it's two and a half to one.
He was like, what the fuck is that about, man?
Yeah.
He's like, I've won six fucking fights in a row.
And you look at the quality of competition.
True.
And then you look at the guys that Eric Silva fought and lost to, Fitch and knocked out by Dong Yong Kim. Again,
Dong Yong Kim's a beast, no doubt about it. But how are you going to have that kid losing
to that guy, beating Sato, and then coming off of that fight being a two-to-one favorite?
That's crazy, man.
That is weird. Super weird.
Good fights, ladies and gentlemen.
Great fights.
This podcast was a success.
I'm going to quit the UFC and just do this with you guys.
Yeah.
I'm done.
This is more fun.
This is way more fun than doing commentary.
It's so fun.
You know, it's about as good as it gets.
Boy, I think I found my future.
I don't like traveling, guys.
I don't either.
No one likes leaving.
We're older.
No one likes leaving.
We're older.
We just did this
right from the comfort of the podcast
studio and fucking might have been my
favorite podcast of all time.
We just need a shitload
of pickles. Yeah, pickles,
bulletproof coffee. You guys enjoy the wine?
We're good. I enjoyed every
aspect of this. Look at this. This is a stare down.
Here's the highlights again.
Eric Silva. Eric Silva. And he hurt him with that kick. It's kind is a stare down. Here's the highlights again. Eric Silva. Eric Silva.
And he hurt him with that kick.
It's kind of a front kick.
Look at this.
It's almost like Cucuno's kick, that sort of crescent kick that he does.
But look, all over him, working the neck crank.
Too much effort in that.
Yep, you're right.
He gassed out because of that.
But I think it's also the body
weight cut. I agree.
When I ran into Silva in Brazil,
I swear to God the kid had to be 200 pounds.
If he's not 200 pounds, he's fucking close.
There's that kick again. It's like a
front kick, but at an angle.
It's how Cocuno throws it.
It's like, they call
it a crescent kick, but it's not a crescent kick
because it's a front kick. Because it's with the ball, the foot.
Look, he hooked him with the body there.
Probably the same spot where he got hurt before.
That's a nasty crucifix.
Eric Silva was just overwhelmed by the ferocity of Matt Brown.
Didn't know what to do.
Just was never comfortable, ever.
I'll tell you what.
I'm going to say it right now.
Matt Brown's my favorite fighter next to Brennan Chubb. I was going to say it right now. Matt Brown's my favorite fighter. Next to Brennan Chubb.
I was going to say, I'm hurt, man.
I'm hurt, bro.
My favorite fighter, I mean, not that he's the best, but his fucking-
Funnest to watch.
He just forces everything to be war.
You have no choice but to be in a war.
Yeah, no choice.
You're not going to sit back and make it look pretty.
It doesn't matter who you are.
When you sign up to fight Matt Brown, you better get ready to have a crazy pace.
All the pretty shit's out the window.
You're going to be in the clinch.
You're going to be eating body shots.
It's crazy to watch something like that.
He must have won a lot of Fight of the Night bonuses.
Oh, well, if he didn't,
there's a fucking terrible travesty.
Amazing.
Amazing fights.
All right.
That's our chopper.
That's our chopper.
They're picking us up. They're here picking me up. I'm. All right. That's it. That's our chopper. That's our chopper. They're picking us up.
They're here picking me up.
I'm rich as shit.
We'll be back tomorrow night.
What are we doing? Tomorrow night?
We'll do tomorrow night.
Whatever you want.
Tomorrow night with Aubrey.
We're going to talk about flying through the jungles of Peru.
Welcome to the jungle.
On the top of feathered serpents.
He just got back from more trips.
I hung out with Gandalf the White Wizard
for a week.
I like it.
Do you guys want to go eat somewhere?
Yeah.
We're done, ladies and gentlemen.
That's it. Thanks to Onnit.
Go to Onnit.com.
Use the code word ROGAN.
Save 10% off any and all supplements.
Anything to tell people about Onnit?
Anything crazy?
No, everything's good. The Onnit? Anything crazy? Anything going on?
Nah, everything's good. New shit coming out.
Oh, the Onnit Academy is awesome. We're really consolidating all the unconventional workouts
and stuff like that. So go to Onnit, click on the Academy.
Ton of info. Maces, clubs.
We got a new suspension
training system. We got all kinds of shit there.
Can a brother get some AlphaBrain?
Fuck yeah, man. I just need addresses,
people. And we got a kettlebell for your ass coming out soon, too.
Oh, shit.
The motherfucker of all kettlebells coming out.
Wait till you see this one.
Really?
I can't say a word.
How much time do you think before that comes out?
The last one I showed you?
Yeah.
That'll be six months.
Six months from now, your dick will be hard as steel.
And you'll be so excited to get this.
It's a kettlebell with Matt Brown's likeness.
Your dick will be harder
than Rogan eating that stuff from GNC
ten years ago?
Back ten?
Between now and then, though,
please get in shape so you can use this.
Because it's going to be heavy.
Brian, you're not ready for this.
I don't know about that.
How big of a kettlebell do you use?
I don't know, man. I don't know. I'm, how big of a kettlebell do you use? I mean, I don't know, man.
Hey, just don't get on.
I don't know.
I'm not maxing out with kettlebells.
I bet he could pull a 70-pound bow without having a fucking hernia.
Guaranteed.
He's a 90-pound bow, by the way.
Guaranteed.
But you struggled with a 60.
I don't have the video on that.
I'm not sure about that.
There's a lot of this.
I was worried he was going to shoot in my neighbor's yard.
Spazzing left and right.
Guys, I had hit my back that day, so I didn't want to herniate.
Jihad, ladies and gentlemen.
I didn't want to herniate my back.
All right, tomorrow.
And we got a fucking crazy week coming up.
We got, I think you say his name, Cenk Uygur from Young Turks.
Great guy.
He'll be here on Monday.
Tuesday, we're doing, hopefully, if we work out the times.
We had to change the times a bit.
But Doug Stanhope will definitely be here and Tom Rhodes as well.
Wednesday, we're doing the TriPodcast, which is Duncan Trussell and Chris Ryan.
Thursday, Randall Carlson.
Friday, Rhonda Patrick.
Got a lot of shit happening, ladies and gentlemen.
A lot of fucking shit.
But tomorrow, tomorrow, we talk about Gandalf.
We talk about Peru.
We talk about the White Wizard.
All right.
We love you guys.
Thanks for tuning in.
And thanks for being a part of the very first ever, what do we call this thing?
The Fight Companion Podcast?
Fight Companion?
That's what I'm calling it.
Fight Companion.
The Fight Squad Podcast? Whatever it is. Whatever you call it. The Rat Pack. That's what I'm calling it. Fight Companion. The Fight Squad Podcast.
Whatever it is.
Whatever you call it.
The Rat Pack.
That's it.
That's it.
Much love.
Fight Rat Pack.
See you soon.
Peace.