The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 27, 2018

Episode Date: May 27, 2018

Joe sits down with Eddie Bravo & Brendan Schaub to watch the fights on May 27, 2018. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Three, two, one. Bam! We're live. We got up early as a motherfucker, ladies and gentlemen. Not really. It's 10 a.m. Didn't we do one at like 4 a.m. before? We did one at 5 a.m. Remember that? What was that for? Damn.
Starting point is 00:00:16 It was a England card, right? Was it? Something. Maybe it was like China or something. Congo. It might have been China. It might have. Congo. It might have been China. It might have been China. It might have been China.
Starting point is 00:00:26 What time is it in Africa right now? Is it yesterday? I think it's there 12 hours ahead. Is it Wednesday in Africa? It's definitely 1960. I forgot he knocked out Whitaker. We're looking at Wonderboy stopping Whitaker. That's big. At 70. Yeah, but Whitaker. We're looking at Wonderboy stopping Whitaker. Yeah. That's big.
Starting point is 00:00:45 At 70. Yeah, but Whitaker was diminished, man. Getting down to 170 was a fucking battle for him. Dude, you look at Wonderboy, what he's accomplished, it's so impressive. All the indicators would point that Wonderboy should win this fight, but I'm on the fence, man. Well, I think Till really is a bad, bad man. There's no question about it but he did come up real short on the way in which really bums me out now i had heard that his pregnant girlfriend
Starting point is 00:01:13 is in this is what everyone's saying is in the hospital and that she's had some serious issues and he's been going back and forth to the hospital and he, and he just didn't have a chance to cut the weight right. A lot of people claim that that's exactly what the issue was. I don't know. That drama's never good, especially your first main card, main event in your hometown against Wonderboy. There's enough pressure as it is. Well, the cowboy fight was a big pressure fight, but he rose to the occasion. Not really, though.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Was it? Was it? Because we didn't know who he was, really. Yeah, but it was his opportunity. For sure, but you're was a big pressure fight, but he rose to the occasion. Not really, though. Was it? Was it? Because we didn't know who he was, really. Yeah, but it was his opportunity. For sure. But you're fighting a smaller guy. It's against cowboy, you know? True.
Starting point is 00:01:51 So he goes forward and does work. Now it's like, man. I mean, there's been guys who have blown up before, but the hype on Till, and I'm all up on his dick, but there's a ton of hype on him. If he wins this one, it's off to the races. It is, but he's fucking four and a half pounds over championship weight that is a lot that's not a little that's a lot it's such an advantage too you know fighters that have missed weight are undefeated this year
Starting point is 00:02:15 when they still fight they're undefeated yeah it's a big advantage i think it's a form of cheating it is a fun if you do it on purpose for sure i. I think what's interesting with what Wonderboy did, he said you've got to weigh 188 the next day. Tight move. Yeah. Because Till's a big boy. Yeah. Till's a really big boy. Very smart.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Whatever advantage that he got from not cutting that extra three pounds, now he's three and a half pounds. Now he's lost a little bit of it, I guess. Still. If you're Wonderboy, though, you want to drag this into later rounds. You know he's going to come out aggressive. You know he's had some drama, cutting weight, and he had to cut more weight to maintain it the day of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah, it's all fascinating, man. It's all fascinating. We're going to find out a lot. The other thing is, too, the styles. Like, what Wonderboy does is at kicking distance. Like, if you watch the exchanges that he's at, he moves real good watch the exchanges that he's at, he moves real good at the waist,
Starting point is 00:03:09 like a snake, back and forth. But he wants to keep you not even at Muay Thai kicking distance. He keeps you at karate kicking distance. Far. Which is sideways and very far. Far. Tough to reach. And Darren's got to close that gap.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And closing that gap is when Wonderboy's the most dangerous. And if you see some of his training footage, he seems to be concentrating on blitzing in and then and countering and sidestepping and countering yeah like a matador yeah if you look at wonder boy's history uh whenever he fights aggressive dudes they get fucked up yeah that's like that's literally what he wants he's like come on bring it on and that's what Till wants to do. Yeah. It's kind of a scary fight. Very interesting. But I'm telling you, man, if nothing in this fight would surprise me, unless Darren Till
Starting point is 00:03:49 just goes out there and just mercs him. Just no respect, mercs him. That's the only thing that would surprise me. But if Till does win, strap a fucking rocket ship to that boy's back. Because now that Bisping's retired, UK needs a face. That's him. He's the fucking guy, man. Even if he loses, he could still be that.
Starting point is 00:04:04 He's 25 years old. Yeah, but not to that extent. You know, like you beat Wonderboy and you knock out Wonderboy, it's fucking... I mean, UK is... It's on, man. He's a super talented striker, though. What he did to Cowboy, it wasn't just impressive. It was like complete domination.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Demoralizing, yeah. Just controlled the range. He controlled every single aspect of the exchanges cowboy got like one good knee off at one point in time but that was and one good right hand to the body i re-watched the fight the other day just to kind of get me amped up so impressive oh my he obliterated him the thing too about till i think he has so much hype is a lot of guys talk. Like, Colby Covington's an amazing, talented fighter. There's a lot of guys who talk a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm like, all right, it's more of an act. They're super talented. But when Darren Till talks, I'm like, God, it's almost that Conor McGregor effect. I'm like, this fool actually believes it. He believes it, and he has those ridiculous skills, and that's going to go a long ways. What did you think? Damn. There's going to be no jiu-jitsu in this, Eddie.
Starting point is 00:05:04 No jiu-jitsu. If it goes to the ground, we're all fucked. All I know about Darren Till is his fight with Cerrone. That's it. This card is going to be interesting. You were going to have Gunnar Nelson on the card, though. Is Gunnar Nelson on the card? No, he got hurt.
Starting point is 00:05:21 But you're going to have Gunnar Nelson and Neil Magno, which was a fun fight. That's a great fight. They were going to do Gunnar Nelson and Till, but, which was a fun fight. That's a great fight. They were going to do Gunnar Nelson and Till, but for whatever reason, they decided to go with Wonderboy. Jason Knight, I know about him. Did he already fight on the undercard, or is he on the main card? He's on the main card. Oh, beautiful. Who is he fighting? He's a tough fight.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Oh, my God. He's a tough fight. Very tough fight. Maracani. Yeah, he's a monster. Maracani, yeah. A Japanese guy? No, no, no. Well, he lives in Finland, but what is his background Yeah he's a monster Maracani Yeah The Japanese guy No no no He's Well he lives in Finland But what is his background He's a Kurdistan
Starting point is 00:05:50 Kurdistan it says He's a really good wrestler Who also has wild ass strikes Man flying Super tough fight for your boy Yeah Yeah Neil Magny
Starting point is 00:06:01 Who's Neil Magny fighting now For Wonderboy though There's not Craig White There's not a ton of upside For him for this fight Neil Magny Who's Neil Magny fighting now? For Wonderboy though There's not a ton of upside For this fight I don't know why he took it to be honest It's a good matchup for him You're in dangerous territory You're fighting the number 9 guy
Starting point is 00:06:17 You rank number 1 He misses weight He's huge I feel like all the pressure is off Wonderboy right now Especially after him missing weight. But if you're Wonderboy, even if you starch Till, they're not giving you a title shot. Until Woodley loses that strap, Wonderboy's not fighting for a title.
Starting point is 00:06:36 14-2-1 for Wonderboy. You've got to remember the only loss was to Tyron Woodley and then to Matt Brown. Those two fights and one draw with Woodley. Crazy. Why couldn't he fight Woodley again? Well, that's what he's asking. First of all, he's saying, why don't I get a shot at the interim title?
Starting point is 00:06:57 How are you giving the interim title to Colby Covington, who only beat Damian Maia, who's 40 years old, who's clearly past his prime? How is that good enough to get him a shot at the interim title? We talked a lot of shit. That's it. There you go. That's basically it. That goes a long way. But at the same time,
Starting point is 00:07:13 yeah, it goes a long way this day and age, but at the same time with RDA, they're not doing Colby any favor, send him down to Brazil. Oh, no, I'm sorry, it's in Chicago. Yeah, Chicago. Chicago to fight RDA, which is, if you look at Colby's style, it's probably the worst matchup for him. He's a heavy underdog.
Starting point is 00:07:28 So I'm hoping, not hoping, I think what their plan would be, RDA wins that, fights Woodley, which is a tough matchup for Woodley, and if RDA were able to beat Woodley, then you have Wonderboy slip in there. Or Colby wins, and then you got mad shit talking with him and Woodley, and it gets very interesting. It gets super interesting. I like that fight. It's a good fight. I like Colby and Tyron.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Colby's the underdog in every one of those fights. Yeah, he is. But RDA Woodley, you got a barn burn in your hands. That's a great matchup. Yeah. RDA Woodley's very interesting. Because as much as they, you know, I love Woodley. I think his style's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:08:03 He's going to be tough to beat. You know, I think they want some bit of turnover in there with Woodley. They want some turnover. What is RDA going to do to Woodley? I mean, he's not going to be able to take him down. No. The only thing he's got going on is striking. And his movement's good.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And if it does go to the ground and his kicks. Woodley's a tough one to beat for anybody. Yeah, even if it's striking, even RDA's striking, Woodley has, I'll put you to sleep, instantly striking. Woodley has more power. RDA has better fundamentals, I would say. As far as putting Muay Thai, putting it together,
Starting point is 00:08:35 kicks with the hands. The speed, the power, the explosiveness. Woodley's a goddamn nightmare. He's terrifying. Woodley's still the favorite in that fight. It's not going to the ground. Unless Woodley wants it to. Woodley just got through shoulder surgery.
Starting point is 00:08:46 He just got his labrum repaired, which is not the worst shoulder surgery. What does that mean exactly? He stapled the labrum back to his bone? The labrum, no. The labrum, he had some sort of a tear in it that fucked up in the Damian Maia fight like instantly. They stitch it back together again, but he's gone through crazy PRP and all kinds of other shit. He put up a video of him
Starting point is 00:09:07 hitting mitts, and it's only been about three months since the surgery, and he's hitting mitts hard. I don't know if that's an old video, though. He's sneaky. He put up this video of him. He might be getting some injections in there. He definitely got some injections.
Starting point is 00:09:23 He was talking about all the different things he was going to do as far as therapy. He came on the podcast just a few weeks after shoulder surgery, and he was moving around normal and moving his hands around normal. But it really depends entirely on how bad this is. The big one is the bicep tendon. When the bicep tendon gets torn off the muscle or off the bone, and then they have to put it back in, staple it down. It does work right now. Now it back in, staple it down. It never works. And then they have to.
Starting point is 00:09:45 It does work right now. Now it does. Not for pitchers. If you're a pitcher and that shit goes south, you're diggity done. But for a fighter, no problem. It doesn't seem to be a problem for fighters. But I bet Woodley, so you got RDA, Colby. So obviously the winner of that will fight Woodley at the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Woodley will be back into the year, no doubt. Yeah, could very well be on the December 31st card. You know, that's a big one. Huge card. You know, I mean, I think they were trying to talk about him being on the August card in L.A., but that's not going to happen. That's a damn good card right now, right? L.A. is?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Who do they? Isn't it? Well, they were waiting for GSB Nate, and obviously that's not happening. So who do you have now in L.A.? Let's see. Let's pull that up. Did they find an opponent for Zybeat? Is this going to be at Staples?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yeah. Yeah. Well, they want to do Cyborg versus Nunes. Not happening. Nunes is suspended. Is she? Yeah. What'd she hurt?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Her hands from whooping that ass. Whooping that ass. Damn. Oh, yeah. TJ and Cody ass. Whooping that ass. Damn. Oh, yeah. TJ and Cody. Woo-hoo-hoo. Damn. That's LA?
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah. Oh, I'm very excited. So the card's not... No. What's the date? It's struggle street right now. What's the date? The card's not nearly as good.
Starting point is 00:10:56 August 4th. The card's not nearly as good as it was going to be. No. It was going to be a bar burner, but... Yeah. Chicago's stacked. Yeah. So far, this card is not the greatest. Well, it has a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:11:09 It's not the greatest. It has some time, though. It does. We're only in May. And there's some great fights coming up. Robert Whitaker, Yoel Romero, son! That's going to be crazy. Chicago is one of the best cards ever.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Dos Anjos, Colby, Covington, Holly Holm, Megan Anderson. Hey, let this sink in. You got CM Punk versus that, I forget his name, Jackson. Over, Overeem, Curtis Blaze, Claudio Gadeja, Esparza. That's so disgusting. And then on the undercard, you got Rashad Evans. And my boy, Joey Benavidez versus Pettis. CM Punk said, take a seat, Joey Benavidez versus Pettis.
Starting point is 00:11:46 CM Punk said, take a seat, y'all. That is so crazy. Mike Jackson, that's right. That is so crazy to me. 0-1 versus 0-1. Does that piss you off? No, because I get it. Because I'm not a fighter. If I was a fighter, I'd be furious.
Starting point is 00:12:00 But out of the game in entertainment, I'm like, I get what you're doing. Selling some wolf tickets there. I get what you're doing. Selling some wolf tickets there. I get what you're doing. It's the worst fight of all time in UFC history, skill-wise. Oh, yeah. Spicely's good. He's about to fight now. Eric Spicely.
Starting point is 00:12:15 What do you guys know about him? I don't know anything about him. No? I mean, I've probably seen him fight before. He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu. His jiu-jitsu is really good. He's the favorite. He's really good.
Starting point is 00:12:24 He's a weird body. Where's he from, Jay? Somewhere on the East Coast, but when he's in LA, he comes through my school. He's really good. He merks everybody. Really? Yeah. Does that CM Punk Jackson stuff bother you, Joe, or are you used to it now?
Starting point is 00:12:39 It bothers me. Yeah. I don't like it. I don't mind him fighting. I think it's great that he's fighting. In the UFC? I think it's great that he's testing himself. In the UFC? In the UFC.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Even if they wanted to do it in the UFC, have him on the prelims, put him on FS1, make it a fight pass thing. I think his contract won't allow it. I think his contract has to be pay-per-view. I'd assume if you're CM Punk, you're that big of a draw. Maybe he was. Is he still? Do you think? How many people are going to buy that pay-per-view to watch him fight? I don't know. That first you're CM Punk, you're that big of a draw. Maybe he was. Is he still? Do you think? How many people are going to buy that pay-per-view to watch him fight?
Starting point is 00:13:08 I don't know. That first one. CM Punk? Yeah. That first one, he got his ass whooped so bad. Is the WWE raging? Huge. It's huge.
Starting point is 00:13:17 People are actually going. So just like that Raw, the Raw series, which Fox has now, which a lot of people, I don't think they realize, Fox decided to go with the WWE instead of the UFC. They turned down the UFC and went with WWE. And now they have the Raw series, which gets like three-something million viewers every time they air it. It's a built-in audience. It's crazy. I always bet on dudes who have hairy backs. Yeah, their testosterone is usually way higher than everyone else's.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And he's going bald, so we're two for two. He's got some fucking gorilla back. Look at that shit. That's some werewolf type shit. But not hairy legs, which is weird. Yeah, very strange. That's not weird. That's some weird hair placement.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Unless he's trying to slip out of leg locks. He's got his legs all shaved down. He's got a weird body, though, right? Yeah, it's interesting. He's a character. If he goes to the ground, homeboy's in trouble. Good jab. He's got a good jab.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Look at that pop-pop. You know, good range. Oh. Damn, Stewart just popped. Where's Stewart from? He had a white flag. It looked like a Red Cross in. Where's Stuart from? He had a white flag. It looked like a Red Cross flag. That's country.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Dude, have you seen... Oh, that's England? Fucking England, lad. Yeah, the what? Come on. Scouse, lad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I forgot. That's right. It was in Braveheart. I forgot. Fucking Braveheart. I haven't seen Braveheart in 10 years. That was Scotland, bro. It's Scotland, for God's sake.
Starting point is 00:14:44 That's a totally different country. God damn it, Teddy. That was Scotland, bro. That's Scotland for God's sake. That's a totally different country. God damn it, Teddy. Oh, shit. Okay. It's still United Kingdom, though. It's true. Good point. Good point.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah, we were talking before the podcast about how good Renato La Ronja's Scouse is. Oh, shit. His Liverpool accent. It's so good. It's fucking amazing. It's so good. He's so talented, man. Yours was good, too, the other night.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Mine? Yeah, your Gentile was fucking good. I don't know what I was doing. It was good. That was high. Yeah, it was good, though. It's so good. He's so talented, man. Yours was good, too, the other night. Mine? Yeah, your Gentile was fucking good. It was good. That was high. Yeah, it was good, though. I was channeling. Super legit, though. I've done everything I can to prepare.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah, a lot of pressure on that kid. Yeah, well, it's crazy if this is all going on, as we heard, while his girlfriend is pregnant and in the hospital. And she's having issues like with the baby. Can't imagine. Check this out. He's about to take him down. We've been through pregnancies before. He's going to take him down. Oh, you just want a healthy baby. That's the last thing we'll deal with fight week.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Exactly. Here it goes. Yeah. Maybe not. Maybe not. Is it the same baby mom or a different one? We probably don't know. I have zero idea. Did you sync up? Do people know where we're at? No. You still do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Is that necessary? Do we have a number on the screen, Jamie? 239. Jamie hooks it up on the screen now. Oh, okay. So people are watching it. Oh, tight move, Jamie. Jamie's on the fucking ball.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Jamie's vibrant today because it's game seven of the Cavs. He's all nervous. Oh, look at him. He's got double Cs. Double Cs. He's got to go all in. Whatever it takes. He's got a Cavs t-shirt on him.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Did you wake up and pray this morning, Jamie, for LeBron James' health? He burnt some incense and shit. Kevin loved to come back. I saw that three-pointer that he hit, like, I don't know, game six or something. The game winner. They actually have something interesting going on. They have a concussion protocol that's getting one of their players out. So, like, I don't know, game six or something? A game winner? They actually have something interesting going on.
Starting point is 00:16:25 They have a concussion protocol that's getting one of their players out. So, like, a guy got hit in the head during the game, and he can't play until he goes through, like, five tests. Kevin Love? Yeah, so he's missing the game. For fucking basketball? For game seven? Yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I like Kevin Love because he's a UCLA guy, but, God, man the fuck up. This came from a fighter. It's not him. It's the league. There's rules and shit. Why would they do that? It's not him. It's not him. It's the rules. But why rules and shit. Game seven? It's not him. It's not him.
Starting point is 00:16:45 It's the rules. Why would they do that for basketball? Brain damage, bro. Has there ever been some CTE in basketball? Sure. Really? Who? There's a couple players that have had some problems.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Really? It's not rampant like the NFL, obviously, but they get in trouble and they don't want to be liable just like the NFL. They get sued at the end of the day. Makes sense. Makes sense. Crazy, though, huh? They're the last people you'd think that would be putting people on the bench.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Oh, I know. Especially Game 7. Soccer is shit. So what's going on with the ESPN deal? When does that start? I don't know. So UFC's going to be on ESPN now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:15 No more Fox. No more Fox. That's done. 2019. No, it finishes at the end of this year. It was supposed to be Fox and ESPN were going to split it, right? Yeah, and then Fox didn't want to pay the premium. But I think it's better.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I think it was a home run for the UFC man to land at. ESPN, it's as serious as it gets as far as major sports. It's on one network. And also, with ESPN, you have ESPN+, which will get some fight nights, and you have regular ESPN, ESPN2. With Fox, not that they didn't do a great job, but it was FXX, FS2. You're like, fuck, where is it? Where is it?
Starting point is 00:17:48 And then now it's on UFC Fight Pass, and now it's here. I think ESPN can learn from the mistakes from Fox and just make it that much better. I think you're right about that because there's been some times that I thought I had my DVR set, but then I get home and it was on FS1. I'm like, motherfucker. Or sometimes it's like my bad NASCAR is playing, so go to FXX times six
Starting point is 00:18:09 Where a baseball game goes long and you gotta go to FS2 You gotta find it Where is that? Is that 672? My only concern on ESPN is because ESPN obviously has the NFL has NBA How much focus are they going to
Starting point is 00:18:26 put on the UFC? We don't want to be the side chick because they're married to the NBA, NFL. That's their baby. Is the UFC going to be the side chick? Right. Good point. That's what you don't want. But they've been putting on some good boxing matches. They had the Lomachenko fight. Yeah, Lomachenko contracted Lomachenko. Yeah, they had
Starting point is 00:18:42 another really good fight on recently too. I got Lomachenko on my podcast coming up. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. Excited for that. I don't know how English is, but we'll figure it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:51 They contacted me, too. Yeah. I think I'm going to have him on as well. Might as well. Might as well. I got questions. I got a lot of questions. I'm going to watch yours first.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Make up my mind. I'll pull the trigger on that. Like, ooh, this line is so good. You can learn from my... I'm translator it's sometimes it's like you think it'd be a good idea to have somebody on but if you had them on like oh how long could you talk to them i know well it'd be for the show time below the show, so it's only a six-minute segment. Yeah, when you've had Cyborg on, but you've had her on with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend translates? Yeah. Well, no, her English is pretty good, but if there's ever issues, he'll take over. She'll explain it, and then it's a little, I'm a little like, God, I don't know what you're talking about right now.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And then he'll take over. But it works great. It's hard. You know, when I had Yoel Ron, it was the best because Joey was translating for Yoel. And so Yoel. No one better than Joey to translate. It was great. It's a fucking hard gig, though.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Translating? Translating is a nightmare. I can't imagine. You should have Joey do it for all the fun. I mean, Eddie, you speak Spanish. You know how hard it is. I barely speak Spanish. But you speak enough to talk to people.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah. We keep it light. Yeah. As soon as we get deep, I'm lost. It sounds like Iranian. They start real flowing fast. Yeah. My grandma, when she started, you know, I was the first of the grandkids to lose Spanish
Starting point is 00:20:19 and felt really shameful because of that. But man, it was really embarrassing hanging out with my grandmother. And she's going off. And I'm like, I don't know what she's saying. I'm looking over to my aunts and my uncles. I'm like, what did she just say? It's very, very embarrassing. It's tough when you have a translator because you don't get in that flow.
Starting point is 00:20:39 There's a flow and you're kind of connecting, going back and forth. Where if there's a translator, the just, the chemistry's not there. Right. Like you don't have that fun kind of flow. No. But the one thing that is good though, what I find is that it allows you more time to think about what you're going to say. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Oh, we heard him. Oh, shit. Oh, we heard him. Oh, damn. Stuart's teeing off. Oh, spicy coming back. But sometimes when I have too much time to think about the question, I'm not, you know, I don't, it's not as fun, it's not as good,
Starting point is 00:21:08 it's not as organic, you know? Right, right, right. Then I feel like I work for ESPN or something like that. Right, I know exactly what you're talking about. No, and I don't want to be that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right? That's the hard part of, like, having these conversations with people is keeping them conversations
Starting point is 00:21:20 and not turning them into some corny-ass fucking interview. The worst. There's nothing worse. but sometimes you have to do that if you if you can't like sometimes feel myself especially with certain boxes shit i got hurt oh you got hurt damn oh he's covering up that's it that's it that's it he was that stewart was an underdog too in this damn hit him with some bombs. England coming in strong. Yeah, man. I've watched those interviews, those standard interviews now where there's no connection between the person talking and the other person answering the questions, and they're so gross.
Starting point is 00:21:55 You know, I was having this conversation with Ken Jeong. Yeah, Dr. Ken? Yeah, Dr. Ken, who's amazing. Might be the nicest guy in the world. He's a sweetheart. But he doesn't do a lot of – he's like, podcasts? Really? I'm like, dude, have your pub set up Joe or something.
Starting point is 00:22:08 The podcast, it's as big as it gets, man. He's like, yeah. And the example I gave him, I go, say you went on Tonight Show and you do a four-minute segment. You're going to have to – you're literally promoting whatever movie or the stand-up, your special coming out. But that's all you're doing is promoting, trying to get people to buy that. That's not real, man. That's not the real you. I mean, we're talking like this.
Starting point is 00:22:29 If we film this, people are going to be a fan of you and then buy whatever you're going to be into or whatever you're pitching. That's a much better way to go. There's no time limit. There's no restrictions. It's crazy that you never get, there's no other place for that.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Like even Howard Stern would do interviews with people. He would get people to say a lot of shit. He had an agenda. Yeah. He had an agenda. Howard Stern had an agenda? Typically, yeah. To get, like, dirt out.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah. You want to find out who you're fucking. Yeah, yeah. That's an agenda, though. That's an agenda, though. He wasn't just having a conversation with you.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Yeah. He calls himself the dentist. Okay. Get it? Does he fuck people's teeth up? Does he have nice teeth? He's actually a dentist. Well, I hope he has bad teeth No, he knocks
Starting point is 00:23:06 He pulls people's teeth out It's hard With his fists For sure That's a terrible name Yeah, well, it's already been taken, too Josh Neer Come on, bro
Starting point is 00:23:16 Old school That's a great name Dude that knocks teeth out Yeah, come on, man That's beautiful Like Josh Neer, in my opinion That's like the janitor Who will sweep you up
Starting point is 00:23:24 He's a guy that If you're a hardcore fan You know who Josh Neer beautiful. Josh Neer, in my opinion. That's like the janitor will sweep you up. He's a guy that if you're a hardcore fan, you know who Josh Neer is. And Josh Neer has been around a long time. The new fans don't know him, though. So they're like, ooh, dentist? That's so cool. Still. That's like calling yourself Hands of Stone if you're a boxer. Lay the fuck off.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah, true. That's Roberto Duran. Back the fuck up. I'm not saying that Josh Neer is in the same breath as Roberto Duran. But still. As a fan, a fan for a long time, yeah, that's his nickname. Someone had hands of stone, though.
Starting point is 00:23:50 John Lineker. John Lineker. Someone from Canada. What about Hominick or Sam Stout, one of them? Sam Stout. That's right. He did it, too. So did Homeboy in Strikeforce. He came over to the UFC. They almost had the double knockout.
Starting point is 00:24:06 He hit Homeboy with a body shot and he got knocked out. Oh. What's his name? Scott. Scott Smith. Yeah, Scott Smith. Hands of stones, right? Hands of steel.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Steel? Steel. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of that going around. Yeah. Some people just go hard with those fucking made-up nicknames and make them up for themselves yeah you can't do that man you can't give yourself a nickname you just don't do that people do all the time it doesn't work that way yeah like imagine if you're a kid you went in
Starting point is 00:24:35 the neighborhood and just gave yourself a nickname get the fuck out of here we're calling you this exactly no man i'm the dark knight no you're Well, that's what I like about Brazilians. They all have silly nicknames, like Shoe Face. Tree Stump? Yeah. It's great. They have fun nicknames. Hell yeah. It's calling yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:55 If it's 2018 and you're just starting out and you call yourself the Pit Bull, fuck off. Fuck it. Get the fuck out of my face. Get out of here, man. Fuck off. There's some that are off limits. Is that the most common fuck out of my face. Get out of here, man. Fuck off. There's some that are off limits. Is that the most common one? Pit bull?
Starting point is 00:25:08 It might be. That might be. God, pit bull's super. There's about seven pit bulls in Bellator. There's three in the UFC at least. Well, there's girls, too. Isn't there other cool dogs? Isn't-
Starting point is 00:25:18 Jack Russell. That's the coolest one. Those are- They're cool. They're designed to hunt rats. Those are rat hunters. Have you ever seen that Netflix documentary where they use Jack Russell terriers to get rats? There you go.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Yo, it's crazy. Damn, it's perfect. I don't feel like I want to watch that. They tear them apart. For an hour? No, no, no. No, the documentary's all on how fucked up rats are and how many of them are. Oh, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You ever see that? Dude, it will freak you out. And they use Jack Russell's to go after rats? Yeah, that is why Jack Russell's are so aggressive. Little Terriers, it's one of the reasons why they're so aggressive is because they're constantly chasing
Starting point is 00:25:56 after these fucking rats. When they get them, they tear these rats apart, man. Look at that. Damn. Dude, those are some Bush League dogs. That's a mix. Jamie, that's from the movie? These are, but there's a bunch of them. These are all. Jack Russell Terriers in particular, one of the reasons why they're so small and so aggressive,
Starting point is 00:26:12 they would go into holes and go after rats. Dude, look at the blood on the back. Where the fuck are they? It's a Michael Vick video. Dark place. Ugh. But this documentary will freak you the fuck out. There's more rats than there are people in New York City.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Aren't there like 30, it's 30 million or 60 million rats or some shit? Something crazy. Something crazy. And they have like all sorts of diseases that- Everything they can kill you. They have all kinds of deadly shit. You just don't get it. Because most people don't get bit by rats.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And they're smart. But we need rats though, right? Don't they eat the trash? That's a good question. Do we can't, we just- Do they eat the trash that's a good question dude we can't we just do they eat the trash how come we just can't just breed rats and just throw them in the dump and just have them eat i don't think they like i don't think they like fucking milk containers it's pretty any problem let's get a rat breeding service releases them in the dump y'all they eat cans everything plastic rats yeah but now we got
Starting point is 00:27:07 to get rid of the rat shit oh fuck dude think of that hey use it as fertilizer that can't be good for the dog jimmy manua boom boom boom he's a fun hot minute when did he fight last he lost i thought he starched homeboy, the wrestler. Oh, Nordin Taleb. He's very good. That guy's good. He's nasty. Isn't he TriStar?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah, he is. He looks like the guy with the rose in his mouth from Mike Tyson's punch out. He does. Doesn't he? He does. Identical. He does. Darren Till's got some prominent cheekbones, huh?
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah, he does. Gorilla-like. But that's why he got that nickname, the gorilla. He looks like he's got at least 5% Neanderthal. Do you think someone gave him that nickname? The gorilla? Yeah. I hope so. Me too.
Starting point is 00:27:58 That bumps me out. When people give themselves their own nicknames. I call myself the gorilla. I hated my nickname, the twister, so much. when people give themselves their own nicknames. I call myself the gorilla. I hated my nickname, the twister, so much. I hated that shit because I just sound pretty homosexual. The twister? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Because Higgin and Jean-Jacques would always call me that because of the guillotine. They called the wrestlers guillotine, the twister. And I asked Jean-Jacques, I'm like, how do you say the twister in Portuguese? And he goes, tornado. I go, can you call me that? That sounds way better. Tornado is sick.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah, call me that. That sounds sexy. They would never call me that. They kept calling me twister. And it started sounding good when I'd compete and people would start yelling it. Then I thought, okay, okay, I think I like it now. I dig it, man.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Tornado. Tornado. I just kept thinking of the game, the twister, and, I think I like it now. I dig it, man. Tornado. Tornado. I just kept thinking of the game, the twister and the yellow dots and the green dots. Oh, that's good. You should get a tattoo that says El Tornado. Yeah. That's fucking dope. It never stuck. Why don't you get, it's sticking right now.
Starting point is 00:28:55 No, I'm going to call it. Tornado. Yeah, you should have that. Fuck yeah. That's way better than the twister. Dude, that's a great word. Sounds sexy. Tornado.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Sounds dangerous. Tornado. Tornado. This summer, tornado. There you word. Sounds sexy. Tornado. Sounds dangerous. Tornado. Tornado. This summer, tornado. There you go. The major movie. That would be a great license plate if you could fit all those words. Tornado.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Tornado with an O. Wait a minute. Tornado does have an O. It's the exact same thing. It's A. There's an A in there. Oh, we're just saying it different. Instead of tornado, no, there's tornado. There's an A in there. In English, it's tornado. Tornado. Tornado Instead of tornado, no, there's tornado. There's an A in there.
Starting point is 00:29:26 In English, it's tornado. And then in Spanish, it's tornado. Is it? No, I'm just kidding. Toro, the A, tornado. That's what makes it dope. You can't pick your nickname. Like, Callan called me Big Brown for the longest.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I'm like, why is it? Because you're big and fucking brown. That's just what. And then I would walk by, people would yell out, Big Brown. It's like, all right, well, fuck you. That's big And fucking brown That's just what And then I would walk Place people would yell Big brown It's like alright Well fuck That's stuck right But that's a good nickname
Starting point is 00:29:48 That's a good nickname Kind of It's fun It's a fun nickname Yeah That's good Do you have a nickname Nope
Starting point is 00:29:54 Joie Rouge Yeah that's Joie Rouge That's just from you Yeah that's it But even when you were Doing Taekwondo No one gave you a nickname
Starting point is 00:30:02 No Joe No When I was playing pool a lot I I was Joe the Comedian. Dude, GSP went off on you on the podcast he just did on your turning sidekick. Holy shit. Talk about endorsements, man. He was critiquing it?
Starting point is 00:30:14 That's GSP for a half an hour is going on about his power. It's incredible. No shit, George. Holy shit. That's GSP going off on Joe Rogan. We trained a little afterwards. I switched my mats out. I had those zebra mats that are super smooth.
Starting point is 00:30:30 No bueno. Too smooth. Too slick. No good for striking at all. Now the texture. You should do a DVD on throwing kicks. DVD? What is it?
Starting point is 00:30:37 1997? Some sort of a video. People still, you know, people still. Nah. John Danaher just put out a DVD. Well, he put out a video series, but I think it's on demand, right? I bet he did. He did.
Starting point is 00:30:48 John Danaher just living in the 90s. He's still wearing Wranglers and fucking Under Armour tops. Of course he put out a DVD. Hey, bro. He's got a strong fanny pack game. He's got a strong fanny pack game. These are all great points. Yeah, I would do that.
Starting point is 00:31:08 George and I, we went over the front leg sidekick first, which is like the most important part of the turning sidekick. Once you get the front leg sidekick down, you understand how that works, then you turn. And then it's basically you're turning and then throwing the front leg sidekick. It's just got like an extra push to it. But most people do the front leg sidekick wrong. Their knee is too low. When your knee is too low, you lose turning and then throwing the front leg side kick. It's just got an extra push to it. But most people do the front leg side kick wrong. Their knee is too low.
Starting point is 00:31:27 When your knee is too low, you lose all the power. Crazy shit. You think he's going to fight at 55? Yeah, the one that's Conor Khabib. I think he's going to fight at 55, 100%. He's only 185 pounds. GSP? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He's going to fight at 55? 100%. Wait, what? And he's only doing it once, and it's going to be the winner of Conor Khabib. See, look at this. This is what Wonderboy does that's weird. That sideways stance is hard to fuck with, man. I used to spar with this guy named Larry Jones.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Larry Jones was this dude who was like... He was like six foot two, but his fucking legs went all the way up to his armpits, man. He had a long... He had crazy legs. Is that the guy that was standing in front of the bag when you first walked by that Taekwondo school? No, that's John Lee. John Lee. John Lee. He was another tall dude.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Black dude or Chinese dude? Black dude. John Lee was a beast. That could easily be a Chinese dude. Yeah, it could be. Yeah, if you heard it. But he was like six foot two, black as coal. Dude, that's the beginning of the movie, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:19 You're walking by that taekwondo. You just whoosh. Dude, that guy hit so hard. I saw him flatten a lot of people with that, too. But anyway, my friend Larry Jones, I was too short. You know, I'm 5'8". When I would spar with him, my legs were normal length. He was 6'2", and I just could not get past that front leg sidekick.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Nightmare. That front leg sidekick is so hard. And they can just move around with you. It's basically like a jab. And they can move around with you. You know, it's like. And they're safe, yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And you're trying to get an angle. Trying to get an angle on them. There's actually a thing on Henzo's Instagram the other day. We had a photo of Hickson throwing a sidekick. And he was talking about how Hickson liked the sidekick best for Valitudo. Because you never lost your base. Like if you throw a roundhouse kick, you throw the kick, you're spinning around, you're resetting.
Starting point is 00:33:14 He was kind of throwing like a front push kick sidekick. Yep. And out of all the Gracies, it looked like Hickson threw it with the most power. Yeah. Because Hoyce would throw it, but it didn't look powerful. But when you watch Hoyce- Sakuraba 2, when it was at the Coliseum, that's a forgotten fight. People, watch how Hoist would be on his back and Sakuraba standing over him. There's like purgatory, Sakuraba standing. Hoist throws sidekicks off his back, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:39 At the knee. Dude, better than anybody I've ever seen. He's on his side and he was throwing some serious sidekicks off his back while Sakuraba, and fucking up Sakuraba's knees. I've never seen anybody throw him that hard. If you remember, Hickson did that to Funaki. When Funaki got Hickson down. Funaki broke Hickson's orbital.
Starting point is 00:33:56 People forget that that was Hickson's greatest victory, because Funaki was the guy that people were saying, well, he's such a good grappler. If he went to the ground with Hickson, he could actually hang with Hickson. But he cracked Hickson with a big right hand, hurt him, fucked up his eye, broke his orbital. And they went to the ground. And as Funaki was standing over Hickson, Hickson fucked his knees up. He fucked his knees up with sidekicks off of his back. Yeah, that's huge.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Huge. And no one practices that shit. No. No. It's tough to practice. Yeah, that's huge huge and no one practices that shit. No, no and and Henzo Would practice up kicks Specifically just just in case he was in that purgatory position where he got boom any it worked against old egg talk tar I've remember that yeah, that was the first up kick first up kick kale
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yep, and I think it was either I think Marilla Bustamante Did it to Jerry Bolander Or it was either Fabio Giselle to Bolander Or Bustamante to Bolander Up kick Boom
Starting point is 00:34:52 Took him out Bam You know up kicks are now legal In combat jiu jitsu They're legal? Yes Up kicks are legal? Up kicks are legal
Starting point is 00:34:59 Holy shit How hard was that to get past? You know what In amateur MMA Up kicks are legal Gay garden You know what I know what? In amateur MMA, up kicks are legal. You know what I mean? Gay guard, new sassy. Amateur MMA, up kicks are legal.
Starting point is 00:35:09 We added them to combat jiu-jitsu because guys were getting too comfortable in purgatory. Just standing over guys. They didn't want to go into anybody's guard. That could kill the show. So now with the threat, it's really easy to deal with up kicks. So all they got to do is just get to their knees and start passing. They got to engage. Yeah, just engage.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Because you rarely see up kicks. So all they got to do is just get to their knees and start passing. They got to engage. Yeah, just engage. Because you rarely see up kicks in MMA. Rarely. Because they're so easy to deal with. But the threat of them will keep you, you know, either away from purgatory or get on your knees and commence to passing.
Starting point is 00:35:39 That's what it's all about. You're about to say Musashi, Jacare? Yeah, he knocked out Jacare with an up kick. And then triangle choked him. Yep. He fell into the triangle. Yeah, there's been probably, I would say, Musashi Jacare? Yeah, he knocked out Jacare with an up kick. And then triangle choked him. Yep. He fell into a triangle.
Starting point is 00:35:45 There's been probably, I would say, seven. Like seven total up kicks in history. Something like that. We're not adding up kicks to combat jiu-jitsu to increase KOs. We're adding it to increase the ground fight. Don't stand
Starting point is 00:36:01 over the guy. Let's pass. Let's go. Yeah, let's get to it. That's smart. Super smart. Yeah, I love combat jiu-jitsu. I love the rule set. I love what it does. It opens up the reality aspect. You understand that you can't just do certain things.
Starting point is 00:36:15 You're going to get smacked in the face hard. Yeah, it keeps your jiu-jitsu honest. That's it. Don't get too crazy. Dude, I forgot Holly Holm versus Megan Anderson. Yeah. That's a barn burn, too. Yeah, it's a big fight for Anderson.
Starting point is 00:36:28 It's her first shot at the UFC. And right away, Holly Holm. Is there anybody that could give Cyborg a match, a good competition? You're right, Anderson. You're right, Faber. You're right, Faber. There's not a woman who's going to give her any challenge. You're right, Faber.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Would it be illegal for Cyborg to fight a man? No. No, it's not illegal. In this whole Me Too movement? How sick would that be? What are you talking about? You know what I'm saying? That's a different...
Starting point is 00:36:55 Do you know what I'm saying? Me Too has nothing to do with that. No, Me Too is about sexual assault, bro. I know. I know, brother. And I'm not saying you're right in favor. It did that. But you paint this story.
Starting point is 00:37:04 You mark it. She comes out with Me Too and just beats the shit out of a dude. Rose McGowan's in her corner. Oh, my God. Yes. And then in the second round, Harvey Weinstein comes out of the floor right behind Uriah. CM Punk's fighting on Main Event. Why not?
Starting point is 00:37:19 CM Punk against Cyborg. That would be great. That's what I said. Oh, you just said it? No, I said that before. Oh, you have. What would she do? You want to make bank or not, bro? What would be great. That's what I said. Oh, you just said it? No, I said that before. Oh, you have. You want to make bank or not, bro?
Starting point is 00:37:27 What would she do to him? She would knock his head off. I mean, it'd be like a cartoon. Just goof. Let him wear whatever he wants. Weren't you guys saying that guys could never, an MMA fighter would always beat a girl, right? No. When we're talking about Ronda Rousey back in the day.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I said that. He said Ronda could beat Mike Tyson. Yeah, no. I said Godzilla. Did you say Ronda could beat Mike Tyson? No. I'm fucking with him. He got shit for that.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I'm fucking with him. Or the flying arm bar, maybe. No. He would still slam her to the ground. Even today? He's like 50. Yeah, I the flying arm bar maybe. No. He would still slam her to the ground. Even today? He's like 50. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I did a podcast when it was rough. She would be in his ass right now. But I think- Is it rough? Is he doing bad? Not doing bad.
Starting point is 00:38:15 It's just, especially as me growing up with Mike Tyson, they say never meet your heroes. So it's like, I think of him as that Mike Tyson
Starting point is 00:38:22 in my head. And then when I saw him, he had sweats on and some white new Balances and he was out of shape. White New Balances? You got a problem with his fashion? What's wrong with New Balances? Right away, you're like, his fashion's off. Well, don't.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Sweats. It's not a Sunday afternoon leisure time. It's the middle of the day. He was on your podcast? He was on his. You are hilarious with your fashion. You really give a fuck that he wore sweatpants. Show the respect, bro. What is it with you and fashion?
Starting point is 00:38:50 That makes no sense to me. I don't know, man. I would have never brought it up. Him wearing sweatpants and New Balance. I'd be like, yeah, he wants to be comfortable. Really? Yeah. I'm not trying to fuck the guy.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Show a little pride. No, I don't want to fuck him. It's like I saw... I don't get it. It's like I saw Bret Hart in Calgary. I go out and they're like, he's in the front row. I go out there and he's in matching sweatsuit at the bottom. I thought, fuck, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:10 It's Saturday night, man. You have my show. Wait, wait, wait. He's in Canada and he's a former pro wrestler, right? That's what you're talking about? Yeah. Okay. He's in Canada.
Starting point is 00:39:21 That's like a three-piece suit up there. Oh, hell no. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? It's Saturday night You're out on the town You can't wear sweats That's how they roll up there
Starting point is 00:39:30 They're just happy it's not 150 below zero Yeah, you might be right They're very happy They're wearing something nice and light I judge people, though, man Probably a nice sweatsuit, right? It's kind of like the McGregor matching greys, you know? What the fuck is wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:39:44 What the fuck is wrong with that? What the fuck is wrong with that? That looks fresh. You're fucking crazy. Crazy, man. Dude, I have terrible fashion. You can't listen to me. You don't, though. You have jeans.
Starting point is 00:39:55 You always have a nice shirt. You have your fanny pack. Fanny packs are back in the game now. I brought that shit back. Come on. I want 10% of the credit. Fannies are back. I want 10% of the credit for bringing that shit back.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I just posted this thing on Hypebeast. I might have more than 10% of the credit. Fannies are back. I want 10% of the credit for bringing that shit back. I just posted this thing on Hypebeast. I might have more than 10% of the credit. I'm being humble. You're the guy who I know who's ride or die about fanny packs, and then Crow Cop still fucks with it, but he's out of where on how big of an impact. He's out of Croatia. They don't know what time it is over there.
Starting point is 00:40:19 They all wear fanny packs. Yeah. You know? Yo, dude, I wore fanny packs back in the 90s. I never stopped. Yeah, your first team all fanny packed. Damn, N Yo, dude, I wore fanny packs back in the 90s. I never stopped. Yeah, your first team all fanny packed. Damn, Nordeem Taleb's going off. I never stopped.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You just picked him up and slammed the shit out of him. Yeah. No, he's good, man. Nordeem is very good. I never stopped with the fanny pack. No, you just ride through it. Even people are like, dude, Joe's fanny pack. I'm like, I know, man.
Starting point is 00:40:41 It's his thing. This is a photo of me. Are you selling shit? Yeah, I sell the shit out of him i'm always out of stock my boy wants one bad higherprime8.com we're at disneyland are we close to mma and the olympics yeah yeah we are yeah holy shit they're working on it yeah they're trying can you imagine that well it would be i can't imagine it it would be amazing now would russia just win all the belts or what they would about we had some sort of
Starting point is 00:41:05 fucking situation? I mean, Russia would be tough, man. Well, it really depends entirely on drug testing. They'll figure it out. I mean, Russians when it comes to box and combat sports, Russia's really... Would Dagestan be considered
Starting point is 00:41:21 Russia? That's what I was putting under the same banner. But the thing is, what would happen is what I was putting under the same banner. Yeah. But the thing is, what would happen is, if it did become huge in the Olympics, then people would realize how guys like Floyd Mayweather and so many different professional boxers got their start as Olympic gold medalists and then went on to become these huge superstars in boxing. Lomachenko is another good example.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah. Great example. When you have a real great amateur background, people get super amped up about seeing you go pro. Andre Ward, yeah. Anthony Joshua. Yeah. You get super amped up about seeing those guys go pro.
Starting point is 00:41:56 In America, it's a little different, though, for whatever reason, when it comes to boxing. We don't get behind it like the other countries. But we used to with Mark Breland, remember those days, with Tyrell Biggs. We used to love it. We used to love it when a guy
Starting point is 00:42:07 was an Olympic gold medalist. Pernell Whitaker. Yeah. You know, Ray Mercer. Yeah. I mean, I said Andre Ward,
Starting point is 00:42:13 but it's still, you know, and he. Look at this, leg lock. Deontay Wilder as a bronze medalist was shaming back
Starting point is 00:42:19 because he started super. Bad move. Started boxing at like 21. Oh, shit. Anytime you hit them double outside ashies in MMA, they're risky. What's such a weird position to find yourself in if a guy can punch you in the face?
Starting point is 00:42:31 And again, goes back to your combat jiu-jitsu. Oh, monta. Yep. Goes back to your combat jiu-jitsu. You understand what positions are like super dangerous because there's positions that guys regularly practice in jiu-jitsu that will get you fucked up if a guy can punch you in the face. Exactly. That's what it's all about.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Combat jiu-jitsu is such a good idea. Thank you, man. I'm so happy. And it's going well, right, Eddie? It's exciting. Does the UFC being acquired by ESPN affect the fight pass and the FBI at all? Not at all. Oh, you're going to smash the big elbow.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Because are they going to continue with the fight pass? Oh, hell yeah. Are you sure? As a matter of fact, the president of fight pass, when that deal went through, emailed me personally to let me know. He goes, listen, this deal has nothing to do with fight pass. Look at this. Game over, son. Oh, body triangle.
Starting point is 00:43:18 It's on the chin. Deep, deep, deep, deep. Can you hang in there for 40 seconds? I don't think so, son. No, he's in trouble. He's got to cinch it up. He's tapping. He's about to tap.
Starting point is 00:43:28 No, it's on the chin. He's still- Oh, he's out. Oh, he's broke his jaw. Damn. Yeah. That's some pretty strong- So they said you're good.
Starting point is 00:43:35 The only problem you'd have to worry about is now that people are going to have to subscribe to ESPN Plus to get the full ESPN experience now, they're going to have to pay for that and Fight Pass. Is that real? That's real. Fight Pass doesn't really change at all. They're not getting rid of Fight Pass at all. They're not getting rid of it as far as it growing could be an issue.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I think the fan base stays. How does that work, though? They're going to stream some fights still on Fight Pass. No. What? I don't think so. What do you mean? ESPN's going to take all that content.
Starting point is 00:44:04 What? Because you have, right? Because now ESPN Plus and ESPN Platform is going to have 30 fights. Then ESPN's going to have 12 pay-per-views at least. So you have 42 fights a year now. So there's no fight pass cards? I could be wrong. Jamie, correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:18 There's no fight pass cards? I don't think so. I think it's just going to be a database for stuff like Eddie's, old school fight libraries, and then, you know, whatever. That's a tough sell. I don't think it's just going to be a database for stuff like Eddie's, old school fight libraries, and then, you know, what else? That's a tough sell. I don't think it's going to grow. I think it's going to continue what it's doing, and stuff like Eddie's might grow, but people are going to be obviously more ESPN Plus packaging. That's a tough sell because I love it.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I think Fight Pass is awesome, and if you want to just go old school and watch a bunch of great old fights, it's the best format on the planet Earth. If you're a hardcore fan. If you're a hardcore fan. But I like the fact that we would have the prelims, some fights that you couldn't see anywhere else but Fight Pass, and then they would have certain Fight Pass cards. How many times did we watch, do Fight Companions with the entire card? But now you can do it on ESPN. Look at that shit. That is nasty. But now you can do it on ESPN Plus, Joe.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yeah. Could be. Is ESPN. Look at that shit. That is nasty. But now you can do it on ESPN Plus, Joe. Yeah. Could be. Is ESPN Plus, is that online? Yeah, but you got to pay for another thing now. That's online? It's digital. ESPN Plus is a digital app. Eddie, what could you do to get out of this?
Starting point is 00:45:16 I think the difference is- What could you do to get out of this, Eddie? He's got to peel that arm off his neck. It's a little late. It's a little late. It's a little too late at this point, right? I mean, can hands fight? He could have got,
Starting point is 00:45:27 he could have, a couple things. You got to protect your neck, obviously. And then he's got to get up to the leg press position where, you know, he could get up on, like he's doing a leg press
Starting point is 00:45:35 pushing back. That'll relieve some of the pressure. And then eventually get over to the side of the cinched body triangle and try to break that shit apart.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah. Yeah, you got to break those shit apart yeah yeah you got to break those body triangles apart you got to move fast you got to prevent them from happening in the first place you got to be soon as someone takes your back first thing is don't let it get too deep and by too deep that means body triangle you know don't let that shit happen what were you gonna say jamie that uh the fight pass thing that so uh the espn deal is us only it says so that'd be for us broadcast only and fight pass is still for the rest of the world. So that would be the big difference.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah. So they're sharing globally. They assured me. I didn't even ask. They said, dude, don't even trip. You didn't ask? I don't know. They sent me an email saying, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:46:18 We're not getting rid of EBI. We love you. It's, you know, don't even trip. Sure, ask for a raise. we love you it's you know don't even trip sure ask for a raise and so
Starting point is 00:46:26 that means so in America it's just going to affect Fight Pass and the UFC everyone else they're good to go but also
Starting point is 00:46:32 there's no really pay-per-views outside internationally they get it for free like in Brazil all the stuff's free there's no pay-per-views in Brazil
Starting point is 00:46:42 right they're watching on Globo yeah they get it all free it's free. There's no pay-per-views in Brazil. Right, they're watching on Globo? Yeah, they get it all free. It's right there. ESPN broadcast deal that includes 10 full UFC cards or primary ESPN channels on primary ESPN channels ESPN, ESPN2, along with the prelims for a dozen UFC pay-per-view events. Another 20 fight cards will stream on ESPN+,
Starting point is 00:47:05 totaling 30 full events annually between ESPN's broadcast and streaming outlets. All full fight cards are expected to have 12 bouts. Additional and shoulder UFC programs such as Dana White's Contender Series, a new All Access Series, and pre- and post-fight shows and more are also included in the deal.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Oh, that's interesting. No, Tuff anymore. So the contender. Tuff is done. Tuff is done. Tuff is done from my understanding. So the Dana White's contender series is going to kind of be the focus now, which I think is good. It's better.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Tuff is a dying breed. Listen, man, making those dudes stay in that house for six weeks and all that crazy shit, I don't like it. Who are you telling? So even with DC and Stipe, who are light heavyweight champion of the world, heavyweight champion of the world, and you get the insight on those guys, even those ratings suck, dick. It's just not going well. It's 27 seasons deep. It's a tired format.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah, everyone's just over it. And no stars come from it anymore. But the Contender Series is great. Contender Series is good. Sean O'Malley came from there. You got Greg Hardy fighting on there. Who's that guy that knocked out Tiago Alves? Didn't he come from there as well?
Starting point is 00:48:07 Am I wrong about that? I'm not sure. The biggest one is Sean O'Malley. But then you're also going to have Homeboy. Why am I freaking his name? Sorry, dude. The guy with the arm. Come on.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Nick Newell. Nick Newell is fighting. 12-fight win streak. Holy shit. Nick Newell is going to, I mean, beat the shit out of people on the contenders. He should not be on there. You don't think so? God, no.
Starting point is 00:48:29 He fought for a world title against Justin Gaethje. But it's good to get him exposure, let people know how good he is. I guess. Depends how many people are watching contenders season. You've got some real potential talent out there. I think the real thing about what's interesting about the Contenders Series is now people you've never heard of are very good. I mean, how many people do we know that are
Starting point is 00:48:49 just guys in the gym? They're like, dude, that guy is fucking good. And they've never fought. They've never fought, or they've had one amateur fight or something like that, but you realize when you see them roll with really good guys, like, holy shit, this guy is just a hair below a world-class level.
Starting point is 00:49:06 There's so many guys like that now because it's such a popular sport. But Nick Newell's not one of those guys. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he has the potential to face one of those guys in the contender series. See, I almost think that's the opposite of what they should be doing because if I'm a young dude, I'm trying to get my break in, and I'm in the contender series, and you give me Nick Nick Newell who is 17 fights, who's 17 and one. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Fuck, man. Why can't I fight a young guy? And this is coming from a guy who had three fights, fought Roy Nelson in the finale. That's true. I was like, what the fuck are we doing? You want to blow up. You got to fight. I mean.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yeah, that's true. It's not like they're fighting the UFC world champion. You know, you got to get in there and prove yourself. I mean. Yeah. You got to go in there and beat those guys. But other guys aren't fighting that competition. I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I see what you're saying. It should be a lower class of competition. For someone, yeah, for someone, they're going to be like, dude, I get fucking, I draw Nick Newell. Sean O'Malley was fighting guys of his same similar and blew it up just knocking dudes out. Now he's a star. Well, maybe it'll be like one or two fights and then they'll get Nick in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:50:00 It should be one so they're familiar with it and then boom. But he's going to be tough, man. If he gets. Yeah. But he's going to be tough, man. If he gets into that division, he's going to be tough to beat. It's an inspiring story, too. I would market the shit out of that, man. Yeah. I think they're worried that if he gets head kick, which he's never been knocked out from head kick, they're worried with his arm, if he can't defend it, he gets brutally knocked
Starting point is 00:50:21 out. Right. People are like, how can you put that guy on TV? Well, you've got to realize, too, think about how much your arm weighs. I mean, it's not an advantage by any stretch of the imagination, but the rest of him is bigger and heavier. I mean, how much do you think he's missing? Ten pounds?
Starting point is 00:50:38 You think? No. How much? How much does an average arm weigh, Jamie? That's got to be ten pounds. No, eight pounds? Six pounds? Dude, I think mine is about 100.
Starting point is 00:50:48 No, seriously. Guys that grapple, there's a guy that grapples without a leg, and his upper body is that of a dude that's two weight classes above the guys he's fighting. You know what I mean? What does it say, Jamie? 8 pounds. 8 pounds what? The whole arm?
Starting point is 00:51:02 Yeah. But that's the whole arm. An average arm weighs about 5% of your body weight. Okay, but that's the whole arm. See, Nick has the upper arm. Nick has down to the elbow. He's down past the elbow. He's got it right here.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah. So let's say his, yeah. It's not that big of an advantage. No, it's not. There's a wrestler, world champion. Oh, Jason Knight, Maquan Arbicani is next. Oh, shit. Boy, Jason Knight found some tough times.
Starting point is 00:51:23 He started off super hot and then lost his last two. Well, who did he fight? He stepped way too far up. Let's relax. That was... Relax. That was a crazy idea. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Llamas is world title contender. He's the guy no one wants to fight. One of the best in the division. Yeah. He's not a huge name. He's just a fucking monster. All across the board. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:44 They're like okay Yeah Lamas You beat You beat Shaz Skelly And he lost to Benitez too He lost to Mowgli Yeah man
Starting point is 00:51:52 It's tough He got knocked out You got knocked out by Lamas And then he comes back And he lost to Mowgli This is a tough fight Performance of the night This is a tough fight man
Starting point is 00:52:01 Amir Makwan Armerkane Might be the toughest fight Out of all three of those More than Ricardo Lam lamas he's dangerous as ricardo lamas is yeah yeah you're right you're right but this makwan americani is a wild motherfucker he does a lot of crazy shit lamas just chills in the top six i mean he's just there world class get some i'm gonna have him on with his dad carl lamas, I've been leaving him alone if he thinks I forgot. I haven't forgot.
Starting point is 00:52:27 His dad is a Cuban exile. His dad left Cuba. You have Joey in here, too? No, no, no. His dad speaks perfect. He speaks perfect English and Spanish, too. Yeah, I know Ricardo does. Yeah, so I've got to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I just didn't want to fuck with him before his fight. He's got a big fight in Chicago. Yeah. That Chicago. Yeah. That is very interesting. We're looking at the commercial for Miocic. Stipe versus Daniel Cormier. Great fight. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Interesting. Like, tough call. What's the latest with Jon Jones? What's going on? Dude, I wish I knew. I wish I knew. He's still waiting to see what exactly his suspension is, but the word is
Starting point is 00:53:05 He's going to fight Fairly soon I root so hard for that dude Me too man But why? Because he's a beast And I think in his heart he's a very good guy You think?
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yes He does fucked up things and he makes mistakes But I think John in his heart is a very good guy I really do I just think he makes up things and he makes mistakes. But I think John, in his heart, is a very good guy. I really do. I just think he just makes poor choices and he's wild. And one of the reasons why we love him is that wildness. I like that he's wild. Yeah, I don't like that he hurts people.
Starting point is 00:53:35 But it's typically when guys act like that, I usually write them off like, fuck that dude. But with him, he's so talented. I literally think he's the best of all time to grace the octagon. I want to see him back. And I think he comes back at heavyweight. I think he's the best of all time to grace the octagon. I want to see him back. And I think he comes back at heavyweight. I think he beats the breaks off Brock. I think his comeback fight is Brock. And then he fights for the heavyweight title against the winner of Stipe DC.
Starting point is 00:53:55 That would be amazing. If DC doesn't retire. That would be amazing. Yeah. They need that. That's what I would do. ESPN, you like this deal? Here's to 2019.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Woo! Get good! What's up? Dude, I had the weirdest. I like them apples. I had the weirdest dream that I had shorts on with no underwear and I jerked off in my car. Oh, wow. I came all over myself and I couldn't figure out what to do.
Starting point is 00:54:21 And then I had to go and meet some friends. Been there. And I was outside the door and for some reason Kyle Kingsbury was in there. Okay. I had to go and meet some friends. Been there. And I was outside the door. And for some reason, Kyle Kingsbury was in there. Okay. I'm like, God, I got a problem. I'm like, I'm covered with my own jizz and I don't have any underwear
Starting point is 00:54:32 and I just have my shorts on. And then I woke up going, what the fuck is wrong with me? Did you have a wet dream though? No. Really? No. Even though you busted in your dream?
Starting point is 00:54:39 No, it was the weirdest dream of my life. I've never had a dream that I jacked off. I jerked off my car. You haven't? I've never had a jerk off dream. Which car was it though? This is a big game. Ever.
Starting point is 00:54:48 What car was it, Joe? I don't know. I don't know. Have you had a dream where you jacked off before? I've had a dream where I'm having sex. Yeah, of course. I busted my bed. Yeah, I've had those before.
Starting point is 00:54:59 It's like, fuck. Wait a minute. You had a dream you had sex and you actually busted a nut? It's called a wet dream, Eddie. I thought those were a myth. My dream was like, I had to figure out, I was going to meet some people and apparently I didn't have any underwear on, I didn't have a shirt on, and I had to crack the door
Starting point is 00:55:14 open. I'm like, dude, I got a problem. Dude. You got to help me up. And then I woke up going, what the fuck kind of thought is that? Where's this even coming from? It's rare I remember my dreams. It's weird you remember yours.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I remember mine last night. I was walking around. I was backstage at Bellator. I was going to fight someone. I can't remember. And I was like, I'm not doing this. I remember I was pleading to him, I'm not going to do it. I'm not fucking ready, man.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I don't want to do this. I don't need this. I'm like arguing with someone. And you're like, go out there. And I'm like, no. That's a weird thing. That's like one of them, I gotta go back to high school and graduate thing.
Starting point is 00:55:47 You ever have those dreams? I used to have nightmares. You can never remember your locker. The combination for your locker. How do I open this motherfucker? My nightmares were credits. I was too many credits shy of graduating high school. They were making me go back another year.
Starting point is 00:56:03 No! You graduated high school. Yeah, I did. But you remember when you were in high school. And they were making me go back another year. No. But you graduated high school. Yeah, I did. But you remember when you were in high school, there was always that one dude that somehow or another fucked up and had to repeat the senior year. Oh, dude. So he's 18. Everybody else is 17.
Starting point is 00:56:16 This fucking dude is in high school with you. He's the Jeep Wrangler. Yeah, beard. He's just sad. He's losing the year of his life. It didn't work out for him. I have this recurring nightmare that I don't think it's supposed to be a nightmare. I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but it always turns into a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Because when I used to DJ at strip clubs, I had a good time. It was always fun. Bet you I should have. And then I dream about it. I dream about it. And the problem is, to be a strip club DJ, you got to know your CDs and the girls that are going up and you're matching up the songs with the girls.
Starting point is 00:56:48 You got to be sharp. Because they all want their different songs. Exactly. So in my dream, I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but I can never read the CDs and the managers get mad at me. I'm like, what girls on stage?
Starting point is 00:56:59 And I'm like, I'm going. And the only CD that I remember, the only one is The Crystal Method because that was my go-to CD. No other CDs. I'm like, oh, I could always pull that one out. That was your default? Yeah, because you've got to change the song every two minutes and 45 seconds, because every song means money for the club.
Starting point is 00:57:17 They're all getting lap dances. So if you let a song go three and a half or four minutes, the manager will get on your ass. What the fuck? It's three and a half minutes. It's very stressful. So if there's a girl, a girl's about to go on stage and 15 seconds before she goes on stage,
Starting point is 00:57:31 she goes, skip me, I got a lap dance and we're over. I'm like, oh shit, I got 15 seconds to find a replacement and to change the music.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I got a plan. Yeah. So in my dream, I'm having a fucking nightmare. I'm like, I can't see the girl on stage and I can't see my it's a total night i'm like oh my god i'm gonna get fired what am i gonna do now i never figure
Starting point is 00:57:51 in my dream ever do i realize that i make money teaching jujitsu never it's always i lose my job like what am i gonna do now and then i wake up i'm like i teach I teach jujitsu. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. You're the one in between the track. I'm like, all right, ladies and gentlemen, bring up Dandy on stage seven. Yeah, but he never did it that way. He didn't have the fake strip club. Oh, no, no, no. I did.
Starting point is 00:58:15 You have to have the fake. Of course he did. No, you have to have it. You have to. You have to because if you talk regular. It was like coming to the main stage. No, it was always my Simpsons DJ strip club voice. Let me hear.
Starting point is 00:58:27 All right, guys, put those hands together for London. Oh, that was yours. See, that's kind of cool. No, but you have to do that goofy voice to cut through. Otherwise, people can't hear you. If you just get on a mic in a strip club and you just talk like- Hey, Kelly's on table seven over there. It won't cut through.
Starting point is 00:58:42 It won't cut through. Well, not only that, it has to have some drama to it, right? You can't just go, oh, here's Monica. Yeah, she doesn't like doing this job, but here she is. No, you got to. You got to have that. Check her out. Here's Lindsey.
Starting point is 00:58:53 She's got some unfortunate tattoos. She's a really sweet girl. Hopefully she'll find a good guy and leave this job. Kelly's made some terrible decisions. Check her out, table three. Here she is. Here she is. That back tattoo is unfortunate, but-
Starting point is 00:59:03 No, you got to go all out. That back tattoo. That back tattoo is unfortunate, but. No, you got to go all out. That back tattoo. Listen, help her out. She's had a rough childhood. She's been in 25 foster homes. Just hook her up. Just come on. Just hook her up.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Jason Knight. Tough motherfucker. That's the guy that's taking some punches. They call him the Country Diaz. Look at that fucking nose, man. That nose is taking some punches, son. You remember his nickname, the Country Diaz, because at that fucking nose, man. That nose is taking some punches, son. You remember his nickname, the Country Diaz, because he's very similar to Diaz Brothers? Minus the domestic abuse charges?
Starting point is 00:59:32 Well, very fucking, that domestic abuse thing is a bummer, man. We don't know the facts, though, do we, Jimmy? Well, one of Nick's guys sent me something. His friend? Yeah, dating some crazy girl. Doesn't count. Doesn't count. When your friend goes on, he goes, she's actually a stalker and he's a really good person.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I'm like, well, fuck you. Thanks, bro. Jason Knight, nasty off his back. Yeah, great card. Nasty. Great card. Quick. He's an Alan Belcher student.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Alan Belcher's jiu-jitsu is pretty awesome for MMA. This kid's been talking so much shit. Maquon Americani, Mr. Finland. He's been talking so much shit. Remember Alan Belcher versus Roussoumar Paharas when he beat the shit out of him? That was one of the greatest fights of all
Starting point is 01:00:15 fucking time. Dude, I saw him a week later. Dude, he put him in. He had Roussoumar in a twister. He went into it. I saw him a week later and I was so impressed by it, I you thought he was mike tyson i was like bro he's like jesus christ like what you did was insane man and russomar at the time he had russomar in a in a twister he had him in the truck almost finished him russomar gets out gets out has alan belcher all sorts of leg lock trouble, and Alan
Starting point is 01:00:46 Belcher just dismantled all that shit and beat the fuck out of him. He brought in Dean Lister and who else? Was it Tom DeBlas? No, he brought in for that fight for a month, he brought in Dean Lister and Davi Ramos, who's in the UFC. Davi Ramos is really good at leg locks, too.
Starting point is 01:01:01 He had Dean Lister and Davi Ramos on his legs for a month He said the first two weeks He tapped out Probably 500 times But then He started to learn How to stop the leg locks
Starting point is 01:01:11 It took him a month Then he went into it Beat the shit out of it And then he made Then he made a DVD Called Immunity How to Stop Leg Locks That's right
Starting point is 01:01:19 Immunity Remember that Immunity Alan Belcher Look he's over there talking Dude I'm telling you Homeboy's talking so much shit. When they did the post, you know Wayans when they always interview him?
Starting point is 01:01:29 He was like, I'm going to beat the shit out of him. He was going hard in the paint. Jason Knight did? Well, Jason Knight is one of the few fighters in the UFC where they can't show his flag. Because his flag's got the fucking rebel flag on it. Mississippi still has the Confederate flag in their state. Yeah, they're proud of that shit. Jamie, can you get the fight on that screen that is crazy?
Starting point is 01:01:46 That is it that is fucking crazy We should fight the night written all over it this big-ass screen right here, but shop why y'all turn my my neck's all stiff What are we doing? Look at that? Look right there. Look fuck read screens in here. This is like a goddamn sports bar It's like we're at Buffalo Wild Wings minus the wings This is a very, very interesting fight. And they hate each other. So Amir Khan
Starting point is 01:02:08 has been talking crazy shit, huh? Oh, dude. He's going so hard in the paint. He goes, this is a long trip for you to come
Starting point is 01:02:13 just for one round to get knocked out. She's going super hard. I think he's just trying to get him emotional. Is he from England? Yeah, does he live in England? No, he lives in Finland
Starting point is 01:02:23 where at least he did for a while They used to call him Mr. Finland I think Knight's the underdog here Well, I mean, it kind of has to be After those two losses in a row But Americani was a guy Who burst on the scene a few years back
Starting point is 01:02:42 And, you know and was really promising, but people don't talk about him much. No. Oh. They will if he has a big... Oh, shit. Oh, jump on him. Oh, look at that.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Pulled guard. Americani, this isn't what he wants. You don't want to get in these scrambles in this straight-up cock fight with Knight, man. That's what he wants. He pulled guard quick. That's what he wants. He's talking shit to him.
Starting point is 01:03:03 He's talking shit to him. Look at that. Oh, please don't do that. He pulled guard quick. He's talking shit to him. He's talking shit to him. Look at that. Oh, please don't do that. He's controlling his biceps and talking shit to him. Yeah, don't do that, though. Oh, good posture. Yeah, he did a good job at avoiding any kind of guard attacks. Yeah, the way he did that by planting down those biceps is very smooth.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Bicep control, and then he postured up at the perfect time, broke through those legs. He's been doing his homework. Yeah, and he's telling them that, too. you ain't getting shit off on me that snake tattoo hanging over his shoulders interesting it's like uh mandy to the main stage yes it's very similar just talking he got hurt he got hurt he's trying to get emotional Those jabs are Touching him He was having a problem With that eye
Starting point is 01:03:47 Dude he has a lot of Scar tissue on his face If you look at his face It looks like a Great white's nose It's just all Sort of shit All over his face
Starting point is 01:03:55 Well that style I mean that crazy Bulldog style Doesn't really work These days man Once you get to Upper echelon level It works until
Starting point is 01:04:02 You can't take a shot Anymore Because your face Just gets smashed in Too much It works until you can't take a shot anymore. It works and it doesn't. Because your face just gets smashed in too much. It works. Then when you get the technicians, they're like, all right, cool, man. That's what you like? Like Justin Gaethje.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Exactly. All right, that's what you want to do? Cool. Yeah, guys just are smart. Makwan just keeps looking for that right hook counter, and he's doing it real nice. I like what he's doing. I like his jab, too. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Oh, guillotine. Oh. Americani's like his jab, too. Oh, there you go. Oh, guillotine. Oh. Americani's a good wrestler, too. Is he? Yeah, very good. He's very strong. That's his background. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Okay. He just keeps more of that. Damn, look at him just talking. Shit. He's comfortable in there. Did that leg kick hurt him? you think, that inside one? It always hurts. That thing sucks.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Especially when you get kicked right above the knee. Ugh, that's a fucking terrible feeling. It just feels like you're hoping your ligaments stay together, and they do. They almost always do, but every time you get hit, they're like, shit. Oh, shit. Damn, wheel kicks. Dude, how about Amanda Nunes kicks against Raquel Pennington? Pennington said that first kick, she had surgery on that leg.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Oh, shit, dude. He stomped right on that knee and folded him a little bit. You see that? Yeah. He's throwing a nice variety of kicks. I like that. Yeah. Well, he's got to do that.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yeah, guys that are fighting today, there's a whole bunch of them. They don't throw really any kicks still. They're still out there, and they don't throw anything. At the lighter levels, they kind of mix it all up. You shouldn't mix it up at all levels. The light heavyweights don't. Because you know what? I love Damien Maia fucking more than any other fighter out there.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I think by now he should have. Oh! Oh! Oh, shit! Oh, damn! Damn! He should have stayed on top. Why did he do that? He should have stayed on top. The fuck? He's still hurt, shit. Oh, damn. Damn. He should have stayed on top.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Why did he do that? He should have stayed on top. The fuck? He's still hurt, though. He's still hurt. Amir Khan, he's still hurt. He got fucked up by that shot. Oh, shit. Oh, he cracked him.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Oh, he did it again. Oh, shit. That was, he didn't get him. It looked like he was hitting him with a kick. Oh, shit. Dude, what the fuck is he doing? He gets the legs fighting off his back. He likes it.
Starting point is 01:06:06 He's recovering. Yeah, but look, he's in mission control here. Yeah. This ain't bad. This ain't bad at all. He can go dead orchard. He can go dead orchard right there. All he's got to do is triangle his legs.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Just triangle his legs. That's all he's got to do. Oh, shit. If he triangled his legs, he'd get him in a dead orchard. Does he know it? He's singling out that arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he knows it.
Starting point is 01:06:26 But what he's trying to do is clear the neck. That's the main thing he's trying to do. He's trying to get to invisible collar at this point. Or some kind of meat hook or something. That's stupid. He's got to make a move. There it is. He's going to clear.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Oh, shit. Oh, triangle. Look at that. Oh, he's got him. He's got him. Ten seconds. He's got him. Inverted. Take that out. Oh, he got out. Shit. Look at that. Darts. Guilty. Go for it. Ten seconds. Couple shots. Oh, shit. Look at him. Look at him. That was fucking awesome.
Starting point is 01:06:57 You ain't talking shit anymore. God damn. How about he start talking shit? How about he stood up and start talking shit again? No, I think he said he did good. What's wrong with this kid? Oh, he went to the wrong corner. Damn. They both did. They both fucked up. That was awesome. Everybody getting brain-challenged. Jason Knight caught him with some good shots.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Damn. Hurt him bad. Fuck. Hurt him bad. With 40 seconds left to fucking go down the guard like, I don't care if you liked it or not. It's a bad idea, man. You almost caught him in a triangle.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Listen, man. If that fight was two minutes longer, he could you like it or not. It's a bad idea, man. You almost had him in a triangle. Listen, man, if that fight was two minutes longer, he could have caught him in something. It's not though. He was scrambling. He got to the top. 30 seconds? He was on top of him.
Starting point is 01:07:31 You know how hard it is to get a finish guy at 30 seconds? It all depends on the situation. You like it? I like it. I like it all. If pulling guard is so suicidal, like people say
Starting point is 01:07:45 I'm not saying it is, I'm a fan of it Why is it so hard for Damien Maia to pull guard? He'll sit on his butt, people don't want to get on top of him They make him stand up Oh, look at that, look at that Because that's literally the only way he can win Look at this, look at this Boom!
Starting point is 01:07:58 But if it's not suicidal Damien Maia can't win any other way Here we go Exactly Round two And Mick Conney got fucked up in that first round Ooh, look at Knight I can't win any other way. Here we go. Here we go. Round two. And McConaughey got fucked up in that first round. Look at Knight. Dude, he's still confident, but he's a little bit like, ah, fuck.
Starting point is 01:08:11 And McConaughey still taking big, deep breaths. Dude, he got hurt bad. That one uppercut really fucked him up. Anyone else just rooting hard as fuck for Knight? Yeah, right now. Right? I don't like the smirk on Makani's face. He's a tough guy.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I like watching him fight, but I also like a guy coming back from two fights down. Dude, you lose three in a row. It'd be tough. His career would be in trouble, man. You can go to 1FC. How dare you? Dude, 1FC is putting on some good fucking shows. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Come on, boys. They are. 1FC's awesome. I like it, too, but compared to the UFC. And then there's Bellator, too. He's not done. The problem with 1FC is just about exposure. They've got some great Thai fighters over there.
Starting point is 01:08:58 In Asia, 1FC is huge. Huge. Dude, it's giant. It reaches like a billion households. Yeah, Ben Eskin's a huge star. No, that didn't work out. In Asia he is. Oh, look at this.
Starting point is 01:09:12 UFC's in Asia too now, son. Yeah, it is, but 1FC, I'm telling you, Brendan, it is very big overseas. I know it's big. I know it's big. If you're not in the UFC, it's a tough go, man. It is. It's a tough go, but I think 1FC is catching up in Asia. I mean, they're bigger than Bellator is over there. Bellator doesn't really do Asia.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Exactly. But that's our number two, right? Our number two in America is Bellator. Bellator's getting bigger, right? It's bigger. I mean, they're in Europe. They obviously just had that card in London. Well, with their heavyweight tournament they bigger I mean they're in Europe They obviously just had That card in London Well with their heavyweights Tournament they're doing
Starting point is 01:09:48 They're killing it right now Really in the ratings Yeah you got Chael Fedor coming up You got Ryan Bader Mitrione Well they need a heavyweight champion You got Michael Venom Page
Starting point is 01:09:56 It's crazy that they don't have A heavyweight champion You can have one now End of the year Yeah There ain't that many big guys man If it's Ryan Bader It could be issues right
Starting point is 01:10:03 Cause he's a light heavyweight And he's the light heavyweight champ. But maybe he fights better at heavyweight than he does at light heavyweight. True. Did you see Phil Davis' head kick, Kale? That was crazy. Phil Davis looks good. That was nasty.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Americani wins it. Night talking shit now. He has some confidence. Americani got that nice jab and hook combo. Yeah, that right hand. He just looks for that check. Oh, he clipped him. Damn, he's got a good right hook.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Oh, nice uppercut, too. He mixed it up. We're missing Callan right now going, God, these guys are sweating. Why doesn't he just hit him with the right hand? Yeah. Callan would be like, why doesn't he just throw? Callan would go, you've got to keep your hands up. Why doesn't he throw the front kick? Oh, shit Yeah. Callan would be like, why doesn't he just throw? No, Callan would go, you got to keep your hands up. Why doesn't he throw the front kick?
Starting point is 01:10:46 Oh, shit. We tagged him again. Oop, he's hurt. Guilt. Guilt coming in hot. Nope, pass. Again. He can't get his leg up.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Triangling the body. He's doing a good job at defending. You wouldn't give that first round a 10-8, would you? Nah. Nah. Maybe. He knocked him down. What's the new rule?
Starting point is 01:11:13 The new scoring system. What is it? The new scoring system is when you show a clear advantage. You'd have to have someone look at it, but a clear advantage is the difference between winning and winning clearly. He clearly won that first round. I would have to look at it, how they frame it now. I think we have a real problem being imprisoned by that 10-point system.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I think the 10-point system is stupid. What do you think about recently? There's been a bunch of early stand-ups from the ground. Well, the Leon Roberts one with Damian Maia and Usman was ridiculous. What are you talking about, with the wizard? Ridiculous. Dude, he had his back. That was super strange.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Ridiculous. That's so we're not knowing what's going on. Not only that, you're dealing with a fighter that is taking a fight on last-minute notice against a super-dominant wrestler with a fighter that is taking a fight on last minute notice against a super dominant wrestler, and he essentially is in a great position and could maybe get his back. And that's his biggest advantage. You fucked him. Amirkhani takes
Starting point is 01:12:14 him down now here. That was another fight recently when they were on the ground and the guy was like side control or the mount and the ref stood him up. Like, what the fuck is that about? On that same chili card, there's also in the girls' fight where the female referee let them just stay on their butt with no engagement. I'm like, stand them up, man.
Starting point is 01:12:31 No, obviously she doesn't want to be down there. She does. No one's interacting. Let's go. Jason Knight, he's got a fucking wicked mission control. He pulls to that mission control. Look at that. He's got a meat hook right now.
Starting point is 01:12:43 He could hit a triangle right here. Meat control. Look at that. He's got a meat hook right now. He could hit a triangle right here. Meat hook. Look at that. Boom. I mean, Connie ain't doing shit on the ground either. He might be doing okay defensively, but he's not getting shit off offensively. No, he's threatened non-stop down there, which to me should be
Starting point is 01:13:01 a win for Jason Knight. Jason Knight going for a leg lock here. I thought about it. Americani is losing and so he goes to the ground. Look at that. Leg lock right there. Oh, shit. It's like
Starting point is 01:13:16 a round apiece. Maybe. Just take down a lone one? The judges for sure give him that to Americani. Yeah. It's 1-1. Yeah, 1-1. But he didn't do anything with him on the ground.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Like zero nuts. He still took him down though. He still took him down. It sucks though because Jason Knight was doing work and threatening him the entire time on the ground. Yet they give it to Americani. He's on the defensive. The flaws in our judging is insane.
Starting point is 01:13:42 It's giant. It's fucking insane. I feel like it should be like a hundred point system. I feel like it should be like a 100-point system. I feel like there should never be any stand-ups. Five-minute rounds, there should never be any stand-ups. Yeah, I'm with you. Why are you standing him up? Never?
Starting point is 01:13:54 Never. Five minutes? I agree. By the time they get to the ground, there's not any get-downs. If it's boring on the feet, they're not doing what they're doing. So if a guy's just holding position. Tough shit. That's just a fight. That's just the way it goes. Get the feet, they're not doing what they do in wrestling. So if a guy's just holding position. Tough shit. That's just the fight.
Starting point is 01:14:06 That's just the way it goes. Get the fuck out of here. That's just the way it goes. You're going to get a chance in four minutes to get back up to the feet when the round's over. Because what happens, Brendan, what happens, this is what happens. If they stand him up because they're holding, then guys, why would they learn jiu-jitsu? If they get taken down, if a striker gets taken down, all you got to do is get good at holding and the ref's going to stand him up.
Starting point is 01:14:26 That's what it leads to and it fucks the sport up. Round three. You can't have that. That gives a striker a reason to not learn jujitsu and just hold and look to the referee
Starting point is 01:14:35 to stand him up. That fucks up the sport. Or you just learn wrestling and keep winning by just holding him down. One takedown, the fight's over. Then you got to learn
Starting point is 01:14:41 how to fight off your back. God. You got to learn how to fight. I agree with that. You got to push the sport. You can't go backwards. Look at Amir Khan looking for a takedown again. Standing up the fight, that takes everything backwards.
Starting point is 01:14:52 It makes it so you don't have to learn jiu-jitsu. If the guy's not advancing and trying to win the fight, though, it's an issue, man. You could say the same thing about them standing. That happens all the time standing. No one says shit about that. We can't put them to the ground. Why not? We do it in combat jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 01:15:03 We have get downs, baby. Get downs. We have get downs. Get downs ground. Why not we do it in combat jiu-jitsu. We have get downs, baby In two minutes if you guys there's no take down in two minutes we get them down remember when this was illegal these kidney strikes were Illegal, they're not illegal anymore. They should do more of those when a guy has a someone's back Remember how Hickson used to do that to the stomach. Why don't they do that that opens up the neck people forget about it I'm like, why don't they do that? That opens up the neck. People forget about it.
Starting point is 01:15:25 They don't even think about it. Yeah, it's true. It opens up the neck. Dude, those are some serious kicks to the stomach. No one does it. Especially when you're breathing hard. Nobody does it. They never do it. Okay, he's trying to create some space.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Amir Khan, he's a strong wrestler, man. He's got to hit a flying kung fu here. This guy's too greasy. His face is good. Oh, triangle. Oh, shit. He had it for a second. He's trying. He's trying to throw some shit up. There it is.. Oh, triangle. Oh, shit. He had it for a second. He's trying.
Starting point is 01:15:45 He's trying to throw some shit up. There it is. It's so greasy. John Cavanaugh keeps throwing some shit up. Cavanaugh's in whose corner? Americani's? Must be, huh? Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:15:57 But of course, brother. How's your boy Dan Hardy? Do you still talk to him, Eddie? Are you in touch with him at all? I haven't talked to him in a while, but he seems to be doing great as a commentator. Yeah, he's doing great He's really good at it He's got a book out too
Starting point is 01:16:08 What does it say like Half reptile or something like that 50% reptile I forget what it is On mixed martial arts On conspiracy theories I think on his life He's gotta go for a triangle right here
Starting point is 01:16:18 He's gotta fucking I think it's about him It's all conspiracy theories Half reptile Three letters Part reptile Part reptile And it's about his life story or something?
Starting point is 01:16:25 UFC, MMA, and me. Part reptile. God, I feel like that's a bad name for a book. I don't know. Maybe he's got a rationalization for it. Lizard man. This is a terrible position for Jason Knight. He's losing.
Starting point is 01:16:39 But Amir Khani is not doing jack shit. It doesn't matter. But Jason Knight is threatening off of his back. Oh, it's close. There we go. Damn, you guys call that the crackhead? That's actually New York crackhead right there. Like, what is our Mayor Connie going to do here?
Starting point is 01:16:56 He's trying to stack them and just pressure through and just survive here. Look at him. He's talking shit like he's not doing anything. This is what you guys wanted, though. Yeah, I want it. Yeah, I like this. I don doing anything. This is what you guys wanted, though. Yeah, I want it. Yeah, I like this. I don't want them to stand it up. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:17:08 They're going to stand him up? He stood him up? Right when we were talking about Mark Goddard. How dare you? Oh, Jesus Christ. Jason Knight was complaining. Jason Knight was going, dude, he's not doing shit. He wasn't doing shit.
Starting point is 01:17:19 That is true. Jesus Christ. How dare you stand him up for action how dare you there's action on the ground well i like this action oh he stunned him he stunned him i'm here connie please quit taking him down well he wants some points well he's getting him i mean that's uh that's literally all he's been able to do In this fight Other than that Couple of jabs He landed in the first round True He's been beating him
Starting point is 01:17:47 Stand up Oh he's going for the leg lock That's a tough sell He's gotta do something Yeah He might be losing this now Oh dude for sure Losing this fight
Starting point is 01:17:59 But it's weird He's losing the fight But what the fuck Is Amir Khani doing Taking him down But that's it Is that a knock There it is Oh shit Triangle right there Triangle triangle He's just the fight, but what the fuck is Amir Khani doing? Taking him down. But that's it. Is that enough?
Starting point is 01:18:05 There it is. Oh, shit. Triangle right there. Triangle, triangle. Is just being on top enough? When the guy on top isn't doing shit but defending. He got the takedown. But it's not good enough. It is in our current sport.
Starting point is 01:18:18 But how much of this should be scored with Jason Knight controlling off of his back and going for submissions versus Amir Khani literally here doing nothing. Zero. But he has top control, right? But his control, though. He's just on top. He doesn't have any control. He's not doing anything but holding him in the spot. But Jason Knight's not landing.
Starting point is 01:18:37 He's not putting him in threat. He's at least trying to be offensive off of his back. Amir Khani is literally doing nothing. All he's doing is holding on here. That's what you guys wanted. Hey, that's part of his back. Amir Khani is literally doing nothing. Like, all he's doing is holding on here. Look. That's what you guys wanted. But, honestly. Hey, that's part of the sport.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Hey, that's part of the sport. Okay, there he lands a shot. There he lands a shot. That's good for him. That's good for him. But Jason Knight is being way more active. Amir Khani's throwing a few shots there. Passed.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Yeah, now he passed. Yeah. I'm with you, man. But the way they score. The way they score. Look out. Look out for Jason Knight's neck. Amir Khani has this fight easily.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Ooh, he could have a 10-finger choke here. You remember that? What is that fucking step over? Oh, shit. Oh, he hurt him. He hurt him. Amir Khan hurt him. Is that a legal knee, though?
Starting point is 01:19:15 I think it was a punch that hurt him. I think the knee was to the body, wasn't it? Was it? There it is. Oh. No, Amir Khan definitely won this fight. I don't think he's won any fans. Eddie, what's that? What's that technique definitely won this fight. I don't think he's won any fans of the fight.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Eddie, what's that technique? God damn it, I can't. You got one arm under the arm, one arm over the top, and you step over with the legs. You know that move. Fuck. Peruvian necktie. Peruvian necktie. I call it ten finger choke.
Starting point is 01:19:39 I forgot the Peruvian. Well, isn't a ten finger choke the one when it's in the chest? You got him in the chest, and you have the head planted in the chest. We would call it the ten finger choke. Say it Peruvian. Well, isn't a 10-finger choke the one when it's in the chest? You got him in the chest, and you have the head planted in the chest. We would call it the 10-finger choke. Say it Peruvian necktie. For whatever reason, we call it the 10-finger. Well, Tony D'Souza is the reason why everybody calls it the Peruvian
Starting point is 01:19:56 necktie, because he's from Peru. And there's a Peruvian darts as well, too. Oh, there it is. He was out, huh? Look at that. I get pissed so hard. He knocked him down twice. Yep, there it is. He was out out, huh? Look at that. I got pissed so hard. Boom. He knocked him down twice. Yep, twice. So was it a 10-8 round, that first one? It could be a draw. It could be a draw. I can see that being a 10-8 round.
Starting point is 01:20:11 It could be a draw. Is this guy from the UK? No, Finland. Oh, he's not from the UK. So, hey, maybe. He traded with Kavanaugh. I bet Jason Knight loses the fight decision. Could be. Could be. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Damn. What do you think? They're probably going to give it to Murakami. What's his name? Amirkhani. Yeah, they'll probably give it to him. Yeah. He got the give it to him. Yeah. He got the takedowns.
Starting point is 01:20:47 You know, he didn't do anything on top, but those takedowns count. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Now, is that the co-main? Do you remember that guy? Do you remember that guy that was... I think the first guillotine master in MMA
Starting point is 01:21:08 was that little Pequeño guy. Do you remember him? He used to fight and shoot a little Brazilian guy. His name was Antonio Nogueira. Oh, yeah. Pequeño. How did I forget about him? Dude, he guillotined so many motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I think he was an Andre Penedares guy from Nova Unión. Remember him? He was a guy that if you shot in on him he was gonna guillotine you and he had his own special 10 finger guillotine he called i don't know exactly how he did it you know everyone's got like their own little modifications for guillotines because you really can't see the grip when you get a guillotine the grip is actually hidden you don't. It's hard to tell what kind of guillotine you're putting in. Even with the high elbow guillotines, the Marcelatine, it's hard to tell if you're holding it like this or like this because the grip is hidden.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Secret guillotines. And the way that Pequeño Noguera did it, man, I still don't. I still don't remember. It's a weird little secret grip. Did you ever get into the pretzel grip? Did you, were you big on that weird grip where the palm of the bottom hand is facing outward and the palm of the top hand is facing towards you? That's a great grip if you get your hands together.
Starting point is 01:22:23 That's a great grip. That's a great grip if you get your hands together. That's a great grip. But the reason why Marcelo, instead of going here, he goes here. That's the difference is when you go here, you need your palms to meet. So if there's a guy here and I'm trying to guillotine him, the first thing he's going to do is bring up his hands like this. He's going to defend a guillotine like this. So his first move is going to defend a guillotine like this so his first move is going to be to come between your your hands right so if you could beat his hand
Starting point is 01:22:51 then you're good then this is amazing but if you don't beat his hand beat his hand then the guillotine is lost but if he comes up and and and blocks it like this and i come around the back of my hand he's still fucked so it's a false sense of security. Split decision, Amir Khani. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Does that make sense on the grip?
Starting point is 01:23:15 Yes, it does. Also, too, like the same as like with a rear naked. It's like if you can keep that hand flat, it's easier to slide it up in there than if you got it like this where it's harder to get it underneath the chin i'm not too sure about that with the guillotine it's just a lot of people do it with the pretzel grip here yeah but you got to get your hands together it's you know with the marcello garcia variation it doesn't matter their hands are going to come up they think they're safe but we're going behind our own hand. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:50 So that's when Marcello was fucking people up with that on the daily. Blackbelch, what the fuck is going on? I'm defending the guillotine and I'm still tapping. Right. It was the grip. What did they give it? Split decision. Americani.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Yeah. That's tough for... Yeah. That's tough for... Yeah. What are you going to do? You say Cub Swanson? Is that what he said? That's not a good move for him. No. Cub Swanson's on another level.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Who's he calling out? I don't know. He's calling Jimmy Manilow He's saying something to Jimmy Manilow I never see crazy guys like this What's the next fight? He's talking about an old story with Jimmy Manilow Yeah, what a good move
Starting point is 01:24:43 To the rest of the crowd Every time we saw each other in the bar, you had a gold necklace on. Amazing. Arnold Allen versus Mads Bernal. And show up the card. Pull up the card. Yeah, he's probably delirious from that uppercut. Al Jermaine.
Starting point is 01:25:00 He's trying to get a fight with Dominic Cruz. He's a bad motherfucker, Al Jermaine. I like how he bounced back from that Marlon Moraes fight, too. I know. He bounced back. Dude, Marlon Moraes versus Jimmy Rivera coming up. I think that's next week. That's a motherfucking fight.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Yeah, it is next week, right? Is that next week? I think so. Dude, we need to have a fight companion for that motherfucker. What day is that? Jimmy Rivera is a motherfucker. He's a beast. What day is that? Jimmy Rivera is a motherfucker. He's a beast. What day is that?
Starting point is 01:25:27 Is that Saturday? June 1st. Friday night? June 1st? I'm in town. You in town? I'm in town. Let's do this.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Trying to get weird. Son. By weird, I mean sit and talk fights. Oh. Yeah. Fuck yeah, man. Let's do that. Is Callan in town?
Starting point is 01:25:44 Callan's hustling right now, getting ready to do his special, right? Shooting his special in July. Woo! I'm opening for him. In Chicago. Woo! He's ready. He's ready.
Starting point is 01:25:52 He said he's amped up. Best he's ever been. That's awesome. Your boy, yeah, hopefully he gets picked up by Netflix or Showtime. Your boy Joey Diaz last night. On fire. Just flamethrower. I was like, Jesus Christ christ he's on fire right now i left i said i just put jesus christ joseph still fucking around too like still like trying new shit on
Starting point is 01:26:15 stage well he was telling me that because netflix some of the references he has they're like you can't say this you need to change to this so he's saying he's messing with that like how to hit the joke, still using that context. What references are they? I don't want to give away stuff. Okay. Yeah. Eddie, are you around next Friday?
Starting point is 01:26:32 The 1st? June 1st? What are you doing next Friday night, son? Next Friday, I'm in San Francisco with Sam Tripoli. You should cancel it. What's happening? You should cancel it. Fight campaign.
Starting point is 01:26:40 You're looking at it. Friday? Jimmy Rivera versus Marlon Mraz. Son. That's going to be a good fight. That is a good fight. Jake Ellenberger, Ben Saunders. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Couple of the old twos going at it. I mean, if I didn't have that spot in San Francisco, I'd be cornering Ben. You're doing a lot of stand-up, man. That's crazy. Not a lot. Enough. Like, I see your name out there. It's not like a real comedian.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Real comedians go out all the time. I'm like below an open mic-er, you know what I mean? Are you enjoying it? I love it. I love it. The show we did Friday night in the Bell Room, that was the most fun I've ever had, man. Really? That was so much fun.
Starting point is 01:27:19 It's so crazy seeing you do it stand-up. It was so much fun. Is it all just conspiracy theory stand-up? Because I know you guys are calling it Tin Foil Hat Cons night is that just because the podcast name uh it's it's um it's more designed to it's not a you know there's a lot of uh conspiracy theory comedy in there but you know you know it's not like a hundred percent you know right but you guys do you take fan questions too right so you can go hard in the paint yeah at the end we do a question and answer type of
Starting point is 01:27:48 like a mini podcast thing yeah it's fun Friday night at the belly room was so much fun man that belly room is such an amazing room that's the truth serum room if your jokes are like fat if they have too much extra words in them if they're too fake they come off
Starting point is 01:28:04 corny. That room just highlights it. You can feel it. I always like to run my material in that room before I do anything big. Joey did his show at the... I've never been in that room in the Ice House. The one, not the big room. They did in the small... It's almost like the belly room. Yeah, that room.
Starting point is 01:28:19 That's where he did it? Yeah. That room's amazing. Yeah, I've done that a couple times with Joey, too. That's a great one. That's a great room. When I opened for Joey, I love it because it's probably 90% Latin, and I love telling Mexican jokes. I've got so many Mexican stories. It's just all fun.
Starting point is 01:28:37 There's no conspiracy theories going on with those crowds. His crowds are like 90% Latin? Really? Joey's? Not last night, was it? No. It seemed like it was when- That's interesting. Like in Ontario. Oh, well, Ontario's 90% Latin. crowds it's just crowds like 90 percent latin really joey not last night was it no it seemed like it was when it's interesting like in ontario oh well ontario's 90 percent latin yeah yeah that's
Starting point is 01:28:50 that was a lot of fun ontario is a great room ontario levity that's a great snark a lot of latin yeah i did burt kreischer's podcast um last week and he said that that because of you you you he said that he was telling you that russian mafia story and then you said you should do it on stage and then he did it and he and it blew up that russian mob story and then i remembered i go you know what joe told me to do that bleeding asshole story on stage i had a problem with blood coming out of my ass so i told him what how i fixed it and he goes dude you gotta do that on stage and I'm like
Starting point is 01:29:25 no way my first reaction was like fuck no I'm not gonna talk about that on stage but I did it Friday and it went over well dude it's a funny story man
Starting point is 01:29:35 when you told it I was howling laughing it's funny how like you say that like oh you should do that bleeding asshole story and people were listening what the fuck is wrong
Starting point is 01:29:41 with these guys but if you it's all just a matter of like how you're telling me the story and when you were telling me the fuck is wrong with these guys? Come on. It's all just a matter of how you're telling me the story, and when you were telling me the story, I was cracking up. I mean, I am not a comedy snob by any stretch of the imagination. I like comedy. I like things that are funny, and if it happens to be funny for X, Y, or Z reason, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:29:59 I just want, I like to laugh. I like funny shit. I don't believe that there's certain subjects that should be off limits. It's just a matter of how you approach the subject. If it's a part of life. The problem is a lot of subjects are tainted because a lot of people do bad comedy that's cheap and easy. And they use those subjects instead of because the subjects are interesting and they have a real valid point,
Starting point is 01:30:28 they use those subjects because they know it's going to get a cheap laugh. Yeah, there's no original thought with it. Like a cheap fart joke or a cheap whatever kind of joke. There's a bunch of cheap jokes. But then there's like a real live situation where you have to shit your pants. It's hilarious. Ari Shaffir had a fucking hilarious joke about
Starting point is 01:30:46 there was a bridge across uh in um sydney this is crazy bridge it's like two miles long or something you walk across it and he was halfway across the bridge and he had to shit his pants and he told this story and he had an agent at the time i told him that's a shit joke you got to stop doing that joke. And Ari looked at him. He goes, yeah, we're not going to work together anymore. He just got rid of him. Just got rid of his agent.
Starting point is 01:31:11 He's like, get the fuck out of here. Because he told me about it. And I go, what? I go, that guy told you to stop doing that bit? Because it was a real story. I was with him. We were together in Sydney. That's what makes it funnier. But it was a real story where he had to shit his pants.
Starting point is 01:31:23 And he was a mile into it. And it was killing. Killing. And his stupid ass agent was like, you know, that's a shit joke. Shouldn't do a shit joke. Because he doesn't get it. Because he hears when people are talking about just like cheap. Why would you listen to an Asian on your material?
Starting point is 01:31:39 Agent, not an Asian. No, I know agent. You said Asian? Did I? Yes. It's early. Why would he listen to an Asian or an Asian. No, I know agent. You said Asian? Did I? Yes. It's early. Why would he listen to agent or Asian? He didn't, but when, look, there's two stages of your career, right?
Starting point is 01:31:51 There's a stage where other people are trying to tell you what to do. They're like, what you need to do is wear a tie. What you need to do is change your eye. What you need to do is go clean. I went through all that shit, too. And then there's a stage where they just leave you the fuck alone. Ari is now in that leave you the fuck alone. Ari is now in that leave you
Starting point is 01:32:06 the fuck alone stage. Because he's successful. When you're successful you can say what you want to do. But a few years back he was in that you might make it, you might fall apart stage
Starting point is 01:32:14 in an agent's eyes. Like agents look at you and they go, man, I don't know, Eddie, you might be able to make it but you're going to have to change some things. You change the way you dress,
Starting point is 01:32:23 change your hair. Drop the bleeding asshole story. The bleeding asshole thing is alienating fans. And they get it in their head that they know how to fix your act. They're almost always wrong. They're almost always wrong. Ari's hilarious. We have the same agent.
Starting point is 01:32:38 He doesn't tell either one of us shit. Ari doesn't give a fuck now. Ari is like my favorite example. He's got a flip phone But he's my favorite example Of a dude who got money Got some fame And some wealth
Starting point is 01:32:50 And got some success And just said Fuck you I'm doing whatever I want Yeah Bert was saying like Touring wise He was taking some time off He's just
Starting point is 01:33:00 He's going somewhere now Like does he want to tour He's like He just needs a certain minimum And that's all he cares about He hits that and he's out he made his monthly nut or his yearly nut he said in the first couple weeks of the year yeah yeah he just did a bunch of theaters and some some good bird crasher no ari ari shit and then he just birds of bees well ari's got a fucking low overhead man he doesn't have a car he lives cheap i mean he's just he keeps that
Starting point is 01:33:23 way he's still in new york yep yeah yeah he's hilarious. He keeps that way. He's still in New York? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. He's hilarious. He doesn't give a fuck, man. I mean, and he loves traveling. He loves traveling. He's material from it, right? Well, it's not just that, man. He just really enjoys going to different cultures.
Starting point is 01:33:36 I mean, he went to fucking Asia, dude. Like, Asia, Asia. Staying in hostels and shit. Staying in places where like 18 year old backpackers go. I mean, I was like, you're felt like you're in danger. It's not, not ever. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:33:50 I'm too scared to do that. I wouldn't want to do that. Well, I don't think it's dangerous. I mean, I think it's rarely dangerous, but I think any kind of travel, I mean, I'm talking about traveling to a bar in, you know, Canoga park could be dangerous. You know, you hear about it in the story, Brendan shop, Joe Rogan, traveling to a bar in Canoga Park could be dangerous. You hear about it in a story. Brendan shopped Joe Rogan to go to a bar in Canoga. Joe gets stabbed by some crazy person.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Oh, don't go to Canoga Park. That's not what it is. It's just like life is occasionally dangerous. I don't think those hostels are – most of those hostels are just college kids that are just traveling abroad and looking to see the world. I've always been scared of hostels. My brother stayed one in Europe until he woke up. Someone's sucking on his toes. That's scary.
Starting point is 01:34:34 I thought he looked like he was in your dick. Well, I was scared of it because of those horror movies. The hostel? The hostel horror movies. That movie's fucking terrifying. Terrifying. Part two's even worse. Turista. Dude, the fucking terrifying. Terrifying. Part two's even worse. Turista.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Dude. Hostel is so gory. Hostel is brutal, man. Dude. How easy is it to lure those 18-year-old backpackers that are going across Europe? So easy. I don't think it's that easy. Dude, all you got to do is get hot chicks, point out the dudes, the hot chicks would
Starting point is 01:35:04 drag them into some shit, put some drugs in their drinks and boom. I don't work on fucking two 50-year-olds and a 35-year-old, a hot chick? Like, all right, yeah, where are we going? Like, backpackers. Yeah, forget about when you're 20. When you're 20, you fuck a warm hole in the wall. Yeah. No, but I'm saying it's easy.
Starting point is 01:35:20 That's how they got them in the hostel. They just send chicks after them. Yeah. That's easy. Chicks work out. them in the hostel. They just sent chicks after them. Yeah. That's easy. Chicks work out. Every dude will fall right into it, man. Chicks with drugs and a drink and it's over. But I think for a lot of those people that travel like that and live like that, it's
Starting point is 01:35:36 got to be very hard to settle down. Once you get used to just traveling and doing drugs and partying places. I feel like that movie doesn't end well for those people. There's no real stability. Oh, you mean the live movie? No, I mean the live movie. Everyone has their own movie playing right now. No, it definitely doesn't end well.
Starting point is 01:35:52 I mean, maybe start a pottery business or some shit. Fucking pottery? Do you ever watch this movie? What is this one? This is another movie that Eli Roth made. He also made Hostile. It's called Green Inferno. I did see this where they eat each other.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Did they get eaten by cannibals? Yeah, they go down to Brazil or somewhere. It's always Brazil. It might not have been Brazil. No, this was Brazil. It was some remote location in the jungle. I was actually a little disappointed in this. The trailer, I was like, oh shit, this would be sick.
Starting point is 01:36:18 What's that picture of the head in the upper left-hand corner? There's some crazy shit that happens in the movie. Dude, send me that. Send me that in a text message. Man, send me that. Send me that, a text message. Man, don't you think like Brazil would be pissed?
Starting point is 01:36:29 Dude, tourism is down 8,000% because of these fucking movies. You know what I mean? Shit happens there. Shit does happen there. But you know what? Still,
Starting point is 01:36:37 maybe Brazil's like, slow the fuck down with these goddamn movies. They do have the biggest rainforest in the world. I mean, they do. They do.
Starting point is 01:36:44 The fucking Amazon's there. Amazon's crazy. Dude, the world. Yeah. I mean, they do. They do. The fucking Amazon's there. Dude. Amazon's crazy. I couldn't believe. I texted Tim Kinney last night. I couldn't believe when he was talking about all those Nazis. Dude. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:36:55 How crazy is that? In Argentina. What in the fuck? They flew from Germany to fucking Argentina. That's a true story. I texted him, too. I went, dude, you did the greatest promo. How many German cities are there?
Starting point is 01:37:03 You did the greatest promo ever for your Discovering History channel show. Because I really was, I love Tim, but I don't watch that much TV with that stuff. Dude, when he was talking about those Germans that live in Argentina. How many cities? How many villages? I don't know, but hundreds of thousands of people. Hundreds of thousands. And you go to the village.
Starting point is 01:37:19 This is in Argentina. They all speak German. And it's all German. The architecture, we go into their house. It's all fucking German. Pull up some images of it, Jamie. They don't speak a fucking lick of Spanish. They wear lederhosen, they're drinking giant steins of beer.
Starting point is 01:37:30 And they're so proud of their Nazi history. Yeah, that's what's creepy. And then he goes, you know what built that land? Jews fucking, their cavity fillings, their wedding rings. That's what built that land. So what do you do? I got so upset, man. And then when he's talking about how they would torture kids, I stopped listening after that.
Starting point is 01:37:48 He said, I'm out. Well, he was talking about how Mengele and a lot of the SS soldiers went to Argentina and continued a lot of their torture experiments. And that they had met some of the people that had been tortured by these SS guys. Horrific, horrific shit. As a young boy, they break their bones, nurse them back to health, set them on fire. Just the worst shit you can imagine. Just to see what they could do. I went to Argentina like 10 years ago, and I swear, I swear to God, I've never been
Starting point is 01:38:17 to a country with so many beautiful women. Really? It was unbelievable. Say no more. And it's like you see like 10 at a time, 13, they're like everywhere. And you would think it would be easy to pick them up, but it's super hard because they have no faith in men. Because the men there, like prostitution is legal. Yeah, they know that there's no reason for a guy to get committed.
Starting point is 01:38:41 So they don't trust guys. So they're like just, that was my experience. They just like hang out. They hang out with each other and they just cock block each other. Just pack a wild to get committed. They don't trust guys. That was my experience. They just hang out. They hang out with each other and they just cock-block each other. They hang out with each other and cock-block each other. They travel in packs. They're everywhere. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:38:59 I'd love to go to Argentina. You watch this. It's crazy, man. Tim said he'd go there and they're like so proud of their Nazi grandfather and stuff like that. And Tim's like,
Starting point is 01:39:11 what the fuck, man? It's crazy. Crazy. Not a lick of Spanish anywhere. And Hitler may be, you know. Yeah, Joe asked him, he goes, if you had to decide right now,
Starting point is 01:39:22 did Hitler die in that building like history tells you? And this is Tim Kennedy. He's never told a lie in his life. He goes, nope you had to decide right now, did Hitler die in that building like history tells you? And this is Tim Kennedy. He's never told a lie in his life. He goes, nope, history's wrong on this one. Dang. And he'd be so happy. About what?
Starting point is 01:39:33 That history's wrong. History is often wrong. That's what I'm saying. If Tim Kennedy approves it, it's fucking, we're going sizzler. Tim Kennedy's never told a lie in his life. Are you sure? Oh, dude, Tim Kenney's, I mean, he's as American pie as it gets. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:53 I love that guy, man. I cried because I thought he was going to die one time. I love him. Yeah, doesn't he have a crazy show where he tries to kill himself? They try to kill him. What's the name of that show uh uh he does that what's it called it's like some show where someone almost dies he goes in the avalanche jumps out of a plane yes yes oh you're bull fighting hard to kill hard to kill
Starting point is 01:40:17 tim kennedy damn that's a stephen seagal movie isn't it yeah it is it is. Terrible movie. I was a fan as a kid. But yeah, and then he also has Hunting Hitler on History Channel. Damn. He's a beast, man. And then he's still serving doing like secret missions and killing people on the side.
Starting point is 01:40:34 His side chick's killing ISIS. That's what he does. What? He's still active special forces going on projects and shit
Starting point is 01:40:43 killing people. For real? Yeah. Hell yeah. Damn. Dude's another level. Can't wait for this main event, man. Is it nuts?
Starting point is 01:40:55 This card's kind of bullshit, man. God, dog. That Magnify's next. Well, thanks for that. So how's stand-up going? It good man grinding every weekend you got something yeah six spots last week i got four this week netflix approach you for a special nope not yet not yet man i got a little ways to go and you've been doing comedy now for a year two years two years two years it's been two years shit two years? I've been doing live fighting the kids for over three years.
Starting point is 01:41:27 That's where it started. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. For some reason, I thought you were doing stand-up for a year. You've been doing it two years. My first spot was at the comedy store. I haven't written my phone.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I'd have to look. Comedy Chaos Night? No. They gave me a spot in the belly room. You may be the fastest rising comedian of all time, right? Like with zero stand-up experience. And then all of a sudden you do stand-up and now you're fucking playing all over the world making loot, right? It's good.
Starting point is 01:41:54 You're getting paid, right? Yeah. That's awesome. Dude, that's incredible. I don't know if it's the fastest of all time. You could be, dude. You have to ask John. Generally, you grind for about 10 years until you pop. Yeah. If you do at all. Yeah. You know, dude. You have to ask John. You have to, generally, you grind for about 10 years until you pop.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Yeah. If you do at all. Yeah. You know, so. But I think you can do like the Charlie Sheen route where if you have some sort of fall and you do shows and then people are like, this sucks and don't come back. I think the sign of it is you can come back if you sell tickets of places you've been before.
Starting point is 01:42:21 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's not, so they know it's not a gimmick. That's the big thing. Yeah. Which I'm doing. It's incredible, man. saying yeah so it's not so they know it's not a gimmick that's the big thing yeah which i'm doing it's incredible man it's either way it's incredible congratulations thanks brother fuck dude i did i you know i was uh hanging out with joe in the comedy scene for many many years i've seen comedians just eat shit you know crash yeah come and go never make it yeah just same guys from 15 years ago still trying to make it same material what you're doing is incredible man it's it's unheard of thanks man
Starting point is 01:42:51 sam was telling me you're killing it the other night i had a good set friday night that's what he said yeah it came together you know it was the first it was the first set i did not stoned that's good so i, you know what? Unless you're really good at something, you shouldn't be smoking weed and doing it. You know what I mean? And until you're super confident and you got your shit down, don't smoke weed. You know what I mean? So I decided to try it out, like not smoke weed and go on stage and see what happens. And it went better than, that was probably my best set so then
Starting point is 01:43:25 you guys are at Cobb's on Friday Friday at Cobb's yeah never never been there a bunch with Joe love back in the day the best you've been there a couple times twice now headline yeah twice down then I'll be back you sell it out yeah holy shit that's a 400 that's 400 seats seats. Yeah. God damn, dude. Holy shit. Then we do a Saturday. We do Sacramento, the punchline. So that's a smaller, that's like, I think that's like a 150, 200, something like that.
Starting point is 01:43:54 But yeah. God is sick. San Fran too. Until I get my shit together, you know, I'm going to go on stage clear eyed. I think that's the smartest route, man. Yeah. And then later, once I feel super confident in my material, and I'm sure...
Starting point is 01:44:09 How much material do you have right now? My problem is I have way too much material. And it's just scattered everywhere. All these ideas. Every day, I have new ideas, but they need to be organized more
Starting point is 01:44:21 and fleshed out. And that's what I did for this show, too. I decided, you know what? There's just so much and it's overwhelming. I just took three pieces. Boom, I go, I'm just going to stick to these three pieces. Focus on those to cut it out, carve it out.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Yes, exactly. Sam's great at helping with that, too. At first, I was writing everything out. And then Joey told me, he goes, dude, you're at your best when you don't write it out and you just go off the cuff. So Joey told me, just have ideas
Starting point is 01:44:50 but don't write anything out and just go out there and try it. And I did that and I think that for me, Friday, I just had PowerPoints and a couple lines, like okay,
Starting point is 01:45:01 this line is kind of funny and that line's kind of funny and then I just went off and just kind of just went for it. It worked out. It worked out. I was doing Ice House last night with Sam and he said it went good.
Starting point is 01:45:13 Oh, cool, cool. Do you guys write your material out? Yes. Do you write material out? Well, you know what? Because hanging out with you for fucking 20 years in the comedy clubs, you always stress,
Starting point is 01:45:22 you got to write shit out. You got to write shit out. You tell every company to write shit out. So that's what I was doing. I was writing everything out. And Joey told me, he goes, right now,
Starting point is 01:45:31 maybe you shouldn't write shit out. Just go out there and just free ball. Just have some ideas. And I said, are you sure? And he said, yeah. So I did a couple spots with him
Starting point is 01:45:39 at the Ontario Improv. And those are two of the best shows I've done with Joey so I decided to do that just have instead of write everything out maybe write out the funny
Starting point is 01:45:51 you know what I mean but just kind of go out there and then are you repeating the same set over or are you doing new sets every time
Starting point is 01:45:57 every set's mixed up different oh wow so you just the bullet points or like what's like say if you had a bid on building a table
Starting point is 01:46:04 whatever like it's the bullet points the funny parts's like say if you had a bid on building a table whatever like it's the bullet points the funny parts you have memorized yeah the line like memorize the funny right and then the way you set it up
Starting point is 01:46:13 you're gonna have to kind of I kind of just go for it so it's more natural exactly because if you start memorizing shit it takes away from the spontaneity
Starting point is 01:46:22 yeah it just doesn't it's not funny you can find it in there though the spontaneity even though, it just doesn't, it's not funny. You can find it in there, though, the spontaneity. Even though you have a structure, you can play with it. The one thing that I've learned, for me anyways, I still watch Chappelle over and over, just like, you know, for me,
Starting point is 01:46:37 like the latest Chappelle, when he tells a story, and he's telling you like a 10-minute story of how shit went down, to me, that's the funniest shit, an actual, real event. Like the mafia story story the Russian mafia story with Bert Kreischer It's an actual story Then you see how real it is when he's describing it instead of trying to make up a joke and trying to find funny Yeah stick to funny stories and then that'll and then from there you could kind of you know
Starting point is 01:47:02 You know Joey shooting my Monday night in Vegas. Yeah. And they're shooting six of them. Not six of them. So there's six comics, 30-minute specials. Right. But Big Jay Oakson's in that, who's hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Christina P., Tom Segura's wife, is in that. That's interesting that she's doing that because she just did a Netflix special. I know she already has this. I wonder why. She's blowing the fuck up. I know, but why not just save it and do an hour? Trying to extra blow the fuck up. Trying to get that bank. I love her. Trying to get that extra blow up. I know, but why not just save into an hour? Trying to extra blow the fuck up. Trying to get that bank.
Starting point is 01:47:25 I love her. Trying to get that extra blow up. Yeah. But with Joey, yeah. And then they shoot two 30 minutes for him. He shoots on Monday night in Vegas. Summer room in Vegas. But when you do those 30 minutes, because I'm used to dealing with you. I'm like, oh, and you're like, I'm going to shoot it here. This is what's happening. And there's, you know, you have
Starting point is 01:47:41 same marketing. With that, it's different. Like you're shooting here. This is how long it's going to be. This is where. This is And you have sane marketing. With that, it's different. You're shooting here. This is how long it's going to be. This is where. This is your time. Different animal. Yeah, it's a different animal for sure. Brendan's selling out cobs in San Francisco by himself.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Holy shit. That's fucking huge, man. He sold out the Wilbur in Boston. The what? The Wilbur Theater in Boston. That's 1,100 something seats there. Holy shit. God damn. I told him he's probably one of the fastest rising comics coming from never doing stand-up. I mean, who else is there really? Ever. Ever. Right? No, ever. Ever. That's what I'm telling you. From never doing stand-up to selling out theaters in two years. Did you know this? Crazy. I mean, it's incredible. It's incredible. And doing like fucking an hour and killing You put in the work dude
Starting point is 01:48:25 What I tell other young comics I say pay attention to him because this is what happens When a person takes Pro athlete type of discipline And applies it to stand up That discipline is everything That work ethic and discipline That's everything man it changes the whole game
Starting point is 01:48:42 Because a lot of comics are funny But they're fucking lazy They're fucking lazy and they don't they get that's why like you you're dealing with guys who do the same material year after year after year and they never do specials there's a bunch of those guys that are really talented guys they just never they never bothered to record anything because they don't want to have to write they don't have to rewrite it doesn't make sense to me like we talk about work ethic and stuff like that. I see these other comedians who maybe aren't doing it, but don't you see the guys like Rogan and Burr
Starting point is 01:49:10 and D'Elia? You want to do what they do, right? Look at this. Oh, he's got a guillotine. It's over. Oh, tap. Damn. It's the same with fighting. You look at GSP, it's like, he's doing this and this. Don't you want to be like that
Starting point is 01:49:25 should probably follow that plan but people get scared you get scared and then you finally get some tools like say if you have an act you put together an act before you're ready to film a special the idea is that your act is killing so if your act is killing you've got it
Starting point is 01:49:41 molded and honed you don't want to let that go I gotta let it go I can't wait to let it go i gotta kick it aside but if you don't do that you don't keep getting better but here's the thing one thing that i've learned even though there's a lot of fear in letting go that old material you always write new better material because you're a better comedian now you understand comedy better more experience yes you're just going to do better like yeah for me like letting go that like bruce jenner bit god it was so hard to let go i didn't want to let that one go because of the special yeah i let it go but i couldn't i couldn't do that if my life depended on it right now i don't know how it works i don't know the beats and i
Starting point is 01:50:17 wouldn't do it right but when you get to a point when you get a bit so tight and so finely tuned that's when you got to let it go and then you move on to the next one and i've got some shit now that that's killing harder than that bit did but when i first started doing you know a year ago a year plus ago when i first released that netflix special and then i went right into writing new material and doing new materials all on shaky legs man and a lot of people don't like that shaky legs feeling. You get real scared. But you got to go through that.
Starting point is 01:50:49 You got to go through that. And that's what makes you grow and continue to get better. But you know one of the things that helps me a lot? That Jeremiah Watkins show. That stand up on the spot. Dude, that is a fucking farm for material. So much fun. Because people yell, like someone look at you and go,
Starting point is 01:51:05 hurricanes. And you're like, man, hurricanes. And then you start talking shit and every now and then you'll say something and it's a bah! And the crowd knows.
Starting point is 01:51:15 You just riff and they know you're not shooting special. So everyone's pretty loosey goosey and they'll yell like, strippers! I'm like, what about them? You know, like you can have fun with it. It's amazing
Starting point is 01:51:25 dude it's an amazing resource to have those shows where someone just yelled he used to call it thunder pussy they used to do it in the uh the ice house the thunder pussy is a great name for it so intense just so silly stand up on the spot but uh yeah i've been doing that show for years that That's helped me a lot. There's a lot of bits in that. And I told Jeremiah, you were telling me how you got bits from it. And it's the same thing with fighting. Like, if you're in the training room, you know how this is. Both of you guys know this.
Starting point is 01:51:54 There's one guy who's fucking, he's really good. And, you know, maybe he tapped out last time. He kind of, you don't mean to avoid him because, you know, it's going to be the toughest round. Like, I'll just go over here. That's how I was with Jeremiah on Stand Up On The Spot. I was like, man, I know my stuff. I write all my stuff. I know what I want to do here, and I can have fun with that.
Starting point is 01:52:09 But on the spot, I don't know, man. Yeah, it's hard. I kept cancing on him. He would text me, like, this week? I'm like, yeah, for sure. Then the next day, I'm like, dude, I'm swamped. I'm like, that's swamped? And then I told him, like, hey, next time you ask me to do it,
Starting point is 01:52:23 no, I'm lying to you. I need to do this because I'm lying to you. I need to do this because I'm scared of it. What's the show called? Stand Up on the Spot. Jeremiah Watkins, Belly Room. I think there's a show. When does he do that? Every Tuesday night?
Starting point is 01:52:33 Yeah, Tuesday night. Stand Up on the Spot? Yeah. No, not every Tuesday night. No, not every Tuesday night. Yeah. But I'm saying I think it's this Tuesday, by the way. It couldn't.
Starting point is 01:52:41 I would try that. Am I going crazy? I thought he said, because I was trying to do three spots in a night, and I go, hey, you have to stand up on the spot, and he goes, no. Because I went laugh right at the comedy store, and I was trying to get another spot. I don't think it's until June. Honestly, I think he just did it, and I was out of town. No, I was on his last one.
Starting point is 01:52:56 When was that? How long ago? Two weeks ago? Yeah, so the next one will be in like two weeks. All right. That sounds like fun. Oh, it's the best. It's like improv. June 12th june 12th there you go
Starting point is 01:53:06 tuesday june 12th yeah i fucking love it man it's it's really fun and it's always packed too yeah it's packed and again the crowd knows what's going on you did that for a while after your shows you would do that question and answer and there was nothing there was nothing anybody could have yelled out that you couldn't tie into some past bit. You know what I mean? You had, there wasn't anything. Yeah. It's better though.
Starting point is 01:53:28 The stand up on the spot thing is better because it's not that it's not past bits. It's all just, you can't do material. If you can't, no, they, they tell you no, no material.
Starting point is 01:53:39 It's gotta be new shit. Yeah. Some people have done it and done their act too. And Pete, the crowd gets mad. They know, they know what, what's up. Cause you, you know, it it's not you can tell what's off the top. What's yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, do remember we did thank you and a at Wilbur so I did my show and then will you know Boston was late?
Starting point is 01:53:55 And you know the dudes were drunk one guy kept flight heckling Joe and Joseph's fucking went nuclear on the guys like Typically isn't how my fan questions go. But fuck it. In a scarf on? Dude. I lit that dude on fire.
Starting point is 01:54:11 The fuck do you do? You lit him on fire. Dude. All right, well, that's it for fan questions. Way to go, fuckface. Well, he was just trying so hard to get attention. Oh, my God, dude. It was just so ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:54:21 I've witnessed many, many people getting torched by joe once it's it's it's awesome it's awesome it's awesome watching joe because joe he doesn't want to release until the guy it's clear 100 he deserves it so a guy will yell and he's like calm down everything's like and like inside like keep going so i could just so i don't feel he doesn't want to feel guilty so when joe decides to go off, it's over, son. There's no way. Joe with a mic? Forget it.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Joe without a mic, you're still fucked. With a mic, you have no shot. I saw Dane Cook go hard on these two girls in the front row. When? I was at the comic store last Tuesday night. Oh, my God. They went and quit talking. And he's like, honey?
Starting point is 01:55:04 He's trying to get through a story. And it was a longer story. You could And he's like, honey, he's trying to get through a story. And it was a longer story. You could tell he's doing new material. He's trying to get through it. They kept interrupting. He's like, I can go in on you if you want. Say another thing. And she goes, another thing.
Starting point is 01:55:14 He goes, you want to do this? And then just fucking. I mean, it was just brutal, man. It made the show, though, because he did about 20 minutes of it. There's a lot of fucking heckling at the comedy store lately. A lot of people want to become a part of the show that's a terrible idea this warning there should be a warning warning oh there's two girls in the front row the other night just drunk and sloppy and talking really loud where you know like you're on stage and you hear them you try to ignore them but then you see the rest of the crowd going like this
Starting point is 01:55:45 Oh that's when you have to acknowledge it You have to you see people turning towards them You're like alright I gotta play copier Most of the time the store is on top of that Which is a new thing In the old days yeah the way I got good At heckling at hecklers One of the big ways is there was no crowd control
Starting point is 01:56:01 At the store I mean zero Mad Max Because in the old days when I used to go there, the fucking comedians were all doormen and security. Everything was all comedians. It's not that anymore. Now they have like legit security, like big guys that take care of everything.
Starting point is 01:56:19 People have earpieces on. They're in control of everything. When the store picked up the business, like about three years ago, when it really took off three four years ago that's when they go okay look this place is sold out every fucking night and then a guy got murdered there there was a murder on the front what yeah a guy got shot to death on the front porch yeah it was some gang related type thing okay some some guy did something to somebody and apparently the dude who got killed, he had some really dark shit on his Facebook, too, like pictures of people tied up and shit. And they murdered him.
Starting point is 01:56:53 They shot him right on the front porch. And from then on, they put, like, a super intense security system in there, cameras everywhere, hired real security everywhere. Jesus Christ. And ramped up the place. Stopped letting people walk into the parking lot. That was a big one, too,. Stop letting people walk into the parking lot. That was a big one too because people would just stroll into the parking lot
Starting point is 01:57:09 and these drunks, people would be backing up their cars, people would be getting hit by people's cars. It was a shit show. It was a shit show. What do you think's gonna happen
Starting point is 01:57:16 to the comedy store now that Mitzi's passed away? Do you think that Pauly's gonna sell it? The business is better than ever. The thing about it is it's sold out every night and it's making a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:57:26 If you go to the comedy store on a Tuesday night, you're going to have a sold-out main room, 400 people. Sold-out OR, 170 people. Sold-out belly room, 80 people. I mean, that is big money. But every night, two shows a night, oftentimes? That's what I was going to say. Two main room shows every night are both sold out now. Two shows a night oftentimes? That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 01:57:41 Two main room shows every night are both sold out now. Thousands and thousands of people funneling into that place as far as like from the beginning of the shows that started at 8 o'clock till 2 o'clock in the morning, people are buying drinks. Is it enough money? Is it enough money to keep it running? Yes. It's very profitable.
Starting point is 01:57:59 It's making more money now than in the history of the club. Never made more money. Ever. Damn. So it's a viable. I mean, it's crazy. It's all within the last three and a half years. Three and more money, ever. Damn. So it's a viable. I mean, it's crazy. It's all within the last three and a half years. Three and a half, four years.
Starting point is 01:58:09 All since you've been back. Yeah, it all just, boom. It took off. This podcast blew it up. Yep. Single-handedly. You coming back. Big part of it.
Starting point is 01:58:15 And they don't deny it. I talked to management there. They don't deny it. I asked, what do you think is the cause of this boom? He said, Joe Rogan. They all said, Joe Rogan. Huge part of it. And then you have all the comics coming through.
Starting point is 01:58:28 It's the golden age of comedy right now. Yeah, it's also the talent there. There's so much talent there. It's crazy how good those shows are. I mean, you look at the lineup sometime, you're like, what the fuck? Dude, I ran over because Patton Oswalt's doing stand-up again. I ran over to see him because he's there for the whole week. And usually he's a New York comic.
Starting point is 01:58:46 He was just up at the OR. It went, fucking Tom Papa. Patton's usually a New York comic? What do you mean? Yeah. He lives out here. I know, but he was in New York for a while when he was starting his stand-up. I only saw him post him out in New York.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I was like, God, I can't wait for him to come back here. Oh, when he started doing it again? Again, yeah. I saw him doing spots in New York a lot. Yeah, and I saw him back here. He's a good guy, man. Yeah, it went Tom Papa, Patton Oswald, then Rogan, then D'Elia. I mean, nuts.
Starting point is 01:59:09 Top five guys at the Comedy Store right now that are regulars. Joey, for sure. Burr's there all the time. D'Elia's there all the time. Theo Vaughn is a motherfucking monster. He's there all the time. Who else? Who else would you go with? Hinchcliffe's been killing. Santino's a monster. He's there all the time. Who else? Who else would you go with?
Starting point is 01:59:27 Hinchcliffe's been killing. Santino's a monster. Santino's a monster. He's underrated. He's a fucking monster. Tom Segura's a monster. Christina's a monster. Bert Kreischer.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Bert Kreischer. God, man. There's so many. There's so many. Yeah, there's so... Tom Papa. There's so many. Neil Brennan.
Starting point is 01:59:44 It's a fucking it's a crazy place right now it's crazy insane Bobby Lee I mean it's just killer after killer
Starting point is 01:59:52 I mean I was walking by the OR Slessinger Whitney Cummings walking by the OR the other night and it was just roars coming out of there
Starting point is 01:59:59 and I was like this place is nuts and then you go down the hallway and there's roars coming out of the main room crazy right it's crazy the greatest time ever for stand up greatest time ever you go down the hallway and there's roars coming out of the main room. You go upstairs. Crazy, right? It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:00:05 The greatest time ever for stand-up. Greatest time ever. You go in there and you just feel it, man, in the walls. I don't know what it's... And then you go over to the Laugh Factory and it's like an antique shop. That's what Theo Vaughn said, dude. Theo Vaughn said it's like an antique shop. When Theo said it, it's like being in an antique shop.
Starting point is 02:00:20 I went, oh my God. You can't say that. Yeah, you can. Yo, dude, when they started filming people, everybody was like, what? They started filming people just putting it up on YouTube. They say they're not doing it anymore, but everybody just lost all faith in that place. They're like, get the fuck out. I still do spots.
Starting point is 02:00:35 I'll do spots where I can, but they're not releasing my shit. The fact that they would do that, it's like you guys are out of your fucking mind. That's insane. What are you thinking, man? And then offering people half of the revenue for youtube yeah why would i just put on myself it just didn't what age are you living in yeah and then when confronted they're like well tiffany haddish is making so much money now and it's all because of this oh yeah that's delusional just i don't know what he did the guy who owns it i don't
Starting point is 02:01:01 know why he did like letting those kids do that and put those things up. But people that had no idea about the stand-up comedy business. Bad idea. And basically interns, just filming people's sets and putting all their material online. But the way it works is, you know, it's a closed community. So if Joe or whoever, Santino goes, hey, they're filming, don't do it there anymore. That's it. I mean, you just don't.
Starting point is 02:01:23 It's a ghost town. Don't go there. I mean, you'll have three sold out shows not even a half a mile away at the comedy store and then they're canceling shows. Different animals. Because there's no one there. Different animals.
Starting point is 02:01:35 But then the improv's still doing. The improv's doing better. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what the improv did? The improv moved that stupid fucking piano off the stage. About time. They put a platform on the side and pushed the piano over to the side.
Starting point is 02:01:46 The piano would fuck up the whole show for anybody that was on the right side of the stage. They can't see it. They can't see it. Ice House still bumping, right? Bumping, yeah. Especially when good comics are there. With the Ice House, it's all about they have to have good people to get out to Pasadena. Because the Ice House, they've had sketchy lineups in the past like you know they'll have Joey and Brenda
Starting point is 02:02:09 They'll have like real shows that are really funny, but they also have like some bullshit, and they had for years They had some bullshit Which kills your because you get if you get known as that where it's like the gimmicky bullshit guys people are like go on a Friday Night, let's just go see who's playing at the Ice House. Yeah. Like, oh, fuck that, man. Yeah, people will go down there and they'll expect to see like a Joey Diaz show and then some whack-ass fucking road guy
Starting point is 02:02:34 who does cruise ships. But isn't it more for the people that live in that area? Like, I mean, isn't it like a local kind of thing? Yeah, but it's still, if it's a bad show, it's a bad show. They don't want to come back. Yeah. See if it's a bad show it's a bad show they don't want to come back yeah see if it's a good show like they know when i do i do those wednesday nights once a month there and they know if you go down there i'm gonna have killers on that show great show you decide who
Starting point is 02:02:55 goes on yeah it's on my show oh it's your show yeah wednesday nights i do one thursday night at the comedy store every month and i do one wednesday night at the uh at the ice house is it called joe and friends yeah joe and friends and the next one at the comedy store every month and i do one wednesday night at the uh at the ice house is it called joe and friends yeah joe and friends and the next one at the comedy store is june uh 21st june 21st yeah and just in the green room like last time it was tony theo you me just hanging out back yeah it's like the best time i could have been out to two in the morning yeah we're just laughing it's the best man yeah those guys made. I could have been out until 2 in the morning. Everybody's laughing. It's the best, man. Those guys make me laugh so hard.
Starting point is 02:03:27 All you guys. Well, it's just, it's hard to find groups of people that are just savages. Just loose and fun and ridiculous. And then this is the world they live in. They live in this comedy world. So they're traveling around a lot,
Starting point is 02:03:41 fucking around, having a good time, talking shit. And one person will say something and then it's just like, everyone's like, yeah! It's fucking on.
Starting point is 02:03:48 It's the best. It's fun, man. Fun times. Everyone's baked. It's just fun. It almost feels like high school with your good friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:56 You know when you walk into first period and all your boys are like, we're at the front? That's what it feels like. Well, in a lot of ways, right? Because one of the things that happens as you get older
Starting point is 02:04:04 is you lose all the fun. Because you have responsibilities. You have a job you hate. And you've got to get up in the morning. And you're always tired. And this is the world that most people live in. When you could find a place where it's all basically people that avoided that rat race and figured out some sneaky way through the system.
Starting point is 02:04:22 And that sneaky way is talking shit. Yeah. No soundtrack needed. out some sneaky way through the system yeah and that sneaky way is talking shit yeah yeah and then no sound check needed you know you just get on stage and it's a you know especially when high level comedians go up like yourself like you're gonna get an hour of just laughs just over and over again it's way better than a funny movie yeah but if and if you're a new comic you're getting i'm getting education too. Yeah, there's a little bit of that. I can go and get something.
Starting point is 02:04:49 I can go listen to Theo Vaughn talk about something that me and Joe talk business, and I'll go watch Patton Oswalt do his set, and then I'll watch Joey Diaz, and then Bill Burr's coming in. And for me, as long as I've been doing comedy, I still love it. I still love watching it. I still love watching it. If someone's killing,
Starting point is 02:05:04 I still love it. I still love watching it. I still love watching it. If someone's killing, I still love it. I love it. It's just a great form of entertainment. And I think it's necessary to because people get so serious about certain subjects, if someone could just come along and mock it and laugh at it so hard and then you realize, like, oh, this is
Starting point is 02:05:20 fucking ridiculous. This is ridiculous. It alleviates pressure. What was fascinating to me the other night with tom papa uh oswald and tony hinchcliffe they all had the same uh premises on their joke but everything was the each opinion was so different i was laughing so hard man but you just see how everyone's different but it's the popular subject so like trump no like sexual assault it was so funny man i like joey's uh i don't want to give away yeah i don't but he's got a great uh bit on that neil magny is tough to take down huh very tough very wiry long and who's this gentleman that he's
Starting point is 02:06:00 fighting james james white do you know anything about him? Craig White. Craig White. He was supposed to be... Why am I drawing a blank? What's homeboy's name? Gunner Nelson. Jesus Christ. What happened to Gunner?
Starting point is 02:06:18 He got injured? I'm not sure, but that was going to be a hell of a fight. Neal's beat some tough guys. He's beat Kelvin Gaslam. He beat Kelvin. He beat Johnny Hendricks. He beat Hector Lombard. Hector Lombard, Kelvin Gaslam,
Starting point is 02:06:36 and Johnny Hendricks. But then whenever he fights a jiu-jitsu, whenever he fights a jiu-jitsu guy, he's screwed. It's his Achilles heel because they take him down and murk him up. His jiu-jitsu's not that good? His defense is just, you know, but when I say it's his Achilles heel, the very tip of the spear black belts fuck him up.
Starting point is 02:06:55 That's why I was so impressed with Dos Anjos. Dos Anjos smashed Neal. He leg kicked him, dragged him to the ground, and choked the fuck out of him. Quick. Damian Maia did that. That other homeboy got him an inverted triangle. The bald guy, I forget his name, who's ridiculous at Jiu-Jitsu, Brazilian.
Starting point is 02:07:12 Bald guy? Bald guy. Bald Brazilian? Yeah, I know. Inverted triangle. Bald Brazilian. Tiago Alves? No, no, no. Sergio Moraes. Oh, Sergio Moraes. Yeah, that guy's really good. Yeah, Sergio Moraais is really good. And then Damian Maia was like, you do what?
Starting point is 02:07:27 He's got a, he, he, uh, triangled someone from the Mount, uh, years ago. And I, I'll never, I'll never forget it. Forgot his name because of that. Yeah, he's a beast, man. He set it up beautifully. He's got a crazy tricep too. He's like missing a tricep. Like you look at one of his arms, like his tricep is non-existent.
Starting point is 02:07:44 It must've broke off and slid up. Yeah, it must've tore. Cause they tear missing a tricep. You look at one of his arms, his tricep is non-existent. It must have broke off and slid up. It must have tore. He never got it fixed. He's got a bicep, but then there's nothing behind it. It's very weird looking on one of his arms. He's still fighting. He just got KO'd.
Starting point is 02:07:59 He got KO'd by somebody good. Pull up Sergio Morai. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, he was the first guy to tap Krone as a black belt it was like look at that Magni in the mount Magni in the mount yes he has left by tricep is all yeah missing it's even weirder when you see it like hanging low pretty weird
Starting point is 02:08:22 there pull up his his record look at this shit does not clean them out guys going When you see it hanging low. Pretty weird there. Pull up his record. Look at this shit. Knackling the mountain. He's going for an arm triangle. Immediately escaped. Oh, shit. He's going to stand up. Let me see his...
Starting point is 02:08:35 There we go. No, no, no. Just go to his record, though. Right here. Yeah, it's right here. Where is it? Scroll down. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:08:43 His actual fights. Oh, he beat Tim Means. Usman KO'd him. Oh, yeah. That's Usman's only KO. Really? Yeah, Usman has a lot of decisions, man. Super disappointed in that stand-up.
Starting point is 02:08:58 Matt Serra was going off about the referee. About the referee standing them, separating them when Damian Maia had his back it was really bad who was the ref? I want to say it was Leon Roberts wasn't it?
Starting point is 02:09:12 yeah I think so it was a terrible decision yeah they're getting too crazy with the stand ups they're getting way too crazy they need to
Starting point is 02:09:20 they need to relax well especially in that situation you got a guy who's a strangulation expert that finally gets to clinch on a world-class wrestler. Especially in the early in the first round. Early in the first round. Got a real good position on him. And you also have to think Maya took this fight with zero camp.
Starting point is 02:09:38 Oh, shit. Neil Magny. There you go, Neil. Finish it off, Neil. Neil's whooping his ass. He's hurt. Come on, Neil. He need him right in the face. Yeah, he did. But it was legal. Finish it off, Neil. Neil's whooping his ass. He's hurt. Come on, Neil. He need him right in the face.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Yeah, he did. But it was legal. Yeah. For sure legal. Oh, he's fine. Oh, he's out. Oh, he's out. That's it, Neil. Neil Magny.
Starting point is 02:09:53 First round, baby. Damn. Big win. Powerful Neil Magny. Neil Magny's stopping, motherfuckers. Powerful back on Neil. Yeah, he's a long dude, huh? That's about as long as it gets for 170.
Starting point is 02:10:05 Great cardio, long. Yeah, and good fight IQ, you know? Yeah, smart guy. Never blows his wad. He's always in there. Like, look at that. Just finished the guy. He's barely breathing heavy.
Starting point is 02:10:18 I mean, seriously, man. That dude is in fucking shape. He's a freak. He's always been that way, man. Is that just a discipline thing? Just always training hard? He's a military guy. Yeah. Also been that way, man. Is that just a discipline thing? Just always training hard? He's a military guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:27 Also a Denver thing, right? Always in that high altitude. Yeah, but he was in Chicago. Had the same fucking cardio. Because I was one of the coaches on Ultimate Fighter 14. He came off that season. Even then, they're like, dude, look at the cardio on Neil. What does he do for cardio?
Starting point is 02:10:40 You know him well. He just trains nonstop. Boom. That was it right there. He lived with Nate Marquardt when he first came to Denver, and he just became, you know, Nate trained nonstop. So he just kind of took on that role. He just trains nonstop.
Starting point is 02:10:50 Is Nate retired? Yes. Nate's done. That's good. He's doing the Lord's work now. Oh. What kind of work is that? Whatever the Lord wants him to do.
Starting point is 02:10:59 What's the Lord saying? I think sell Bibles. I don't know what they do. I don't know, man. So he's working for a church or something? I think so. He's trying to become a priest or something like that think sell Bibles. I don't know what they do. I don't know, man. So he's working for a church or something? I think so. He's trying to become a priest or something like that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:11:11 He was always super religious. Yeah. Always. Yeah. I'm glad he's retired. Great guy. He had a lot of great fights, man. A lot of great fights.
Starting point is 02:11:18 One of the greats. Nate the Great. His KO of Tyron Woodley for the Strikeforce Welterweight Championship is one of the all-time highlight real KOs. Mortal Kombat KO. Yeah, literally Mortal Kombat. Elbows. The best. I love Nate.
Starting point is 02:11:31 Elbows and uppercuts, son. He's so goddamn tough. Yeah, man. For sure. He's a guy that kind of like was real active and like real proficient before anybody knew anything about MMA. He started when he was 17. Joey, he's called me a couple times.
Starting point is 02:11:51 Should I answer the phone if he calls? Call him back. Listen, cocksucker. I made him watch that Darren Till. Darren Till's over there eating Pop-Tarts. He weighs 500 pounds He's talking about Mackenzie Dern's ass last night again Again?
Starting point is 02:12:08 He's terrible about that John, what do you think happened there? What do you think that smells like? What do you think happened there? You think she's just eating all the fucking time? I don't know, Joey I don't know her personally She must weigh by 7 pounds
Starting point is 02:12:20 She's fucking smoking though, right? Yeah, man She's a very attractive girl Joey's right now in the middle of bomb hits He can't answer that phone pounds. She's fucking smoking though, right? Yeah, man. She's a very attractive girl. Joey's right now in the middle of bomb hits. He can't answer that phone. He'll answer. Hmm. Really? I'm surprised he didn't go to the voice mail. You have reached the voice mail box.
Starting point is 02:12:35 Maybe he's calling me. Oh, there it is. Calling you back? Where you been, dog? What was that? How many times I gotta call you, dog? We're on the podcast. We're on JRE,
Starting point is 02:12:51 Fight Companion Live. What's up? All right. You watching? What are you doing there? I ain't watching dick. I got shit to do with people to see.
Starting point is 02:13:00 I got time to watch people kick each other in the fucking head today. You're on the air. You're on speakerphone. Tell him to come on by. No worries. Come on by for the main event.
Starting point is 02:13:09 What are you doing to show at Cobbs? Your what? What are you doing to show at Cobbs? Oh, Cobbs is this Friday in San Francisco. This Friday. We'll see you one day this week on the show to discuss your comedy career as a fucking, what do you call that? A fucking extraterrestrial fucking comic, whatever the fuck you call it. An extraterrestrial comic.
Starting point is 02:13:38 Martian comedy. What? You're fueling the flames of this shit, Joe Rogan. You're better than I am. I'm a sucker. What? Uncle Joey. I was dropping fucking narco jokes on him and shit. I'm ready to go, dog. I'm going to cryotherapy right now. I'm just listening to Dogs by Pink Floyd. Nice. I'm going to cryotherapy.
Starting point is 02:14:15 Then I'm going to pop a fucking podcast. And I'm doing a few spots tonight to let these motherfuckers know who's running things. Beautiful. And that's it. That's it. Enjoy fucking Till against Wonderboy and my man against the other guy. I'll watch it tonight on tape. Joey, what time are your tapings on June 4th? 7 and 9 p.m. in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 02:14:37 And where at? Where are they filming at? Downtown, I think. Some place they got it. It's a small place, Joe. It was made for us. It's like 100 seats less than the original room, nice and tight.
Starting point is 02:14:49 Really? It's like Providence, Rhode Island. When was the last time you went to Providence? A couple years ago. That comedy connection is fucking deadly. It's deadly in there. So this is the same type of layout, 250, 240. Are there tickets available?
Starting point is 02:15:07 There's no tickets available I mean there's something for you You know what I'm saying? Right If you show up in the helicopter I can't deny you We might have to We might have to get in the Batmobile
Starting point is 02:15:17 And go down there and represent If you show up in the Trump Tower You're in no danger You know what I'm saying? You just walk in and take the fucking mic And tell people what time it is. Beautiful. But that's it.
Starting point is 02:15:27 There's nothing available. I can't wait for people to see that special, Joey. It's going to be fucking nuts. I can't wait. I'm working hard. I've never worked this hard in my life. I didn't know the media this, so I listened to you and the tapings and the trying shit. And now I'm just doing 28-minute sets all week.
Starting point is 02:15:43 28, 28, 28. Boom. I gotta get the beginning more jazzed up because I gotta make them watch. So I gotta go out there like a fucking meteor. You understand me? I gotta go out there and hold them till like 14 minutes
Starting point is 02:15:57 and let them, I got the strategy. I'm gonna go out there and fucking just go off for about 14. Then we go to our different corners. And then I come on and I pick my shots. I just pick my fucking
Starting point is 02:16:10 shots like when fucking Eddie's guy fought that dude and he fucking, the really good striker. I gotta pick my shots in the second round. And then the third round go out there and just fucking four point combinations ending with leg kicks
Starting point is 02:16:25 to tear down the knee until you can't take it no more you know i'm saying that's the strategy right there i'm breaking it down to three rounds joe rogan you did it last night joey you did last night at the ice house he said i told i told rogan you set him on fire man yeah no no no i broke it down to three rounds and i'm cutting that and adding. You know what I'm saying? I'm cutting. I'm looking at it like an MMA fighter. So I'm training for a fight.
Starting point is 02:16:51 So the first 11 minutes, that's fucking, I got to jump on your criminal shit. Like old school Vitor. The whole fucking old school, old school Vitor. The second round, I'm just picking my shots.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Like your guy against Edson Barbosa. He picked his shots. Like your guy, I guess, Edson Barbosa. He picked his shots. He picked them apart. He kicked them in the side. He fucked up that sciatic nerve. He kicked them in the body. You know, you just gotta get your shots. And then the third round, I come out like fucking that black dude in the 70s that fought when they gave him the bottle filled with cocaine milk.
Starting point is 02:17:22 Aaron Pryor. Remember Joe Rogan? Aaron Pryor. Cocaine milk. Drop some knowledge, Joe Rogan. Aaron Pryor. Remember Joe Rogan? Aaron Pryor. Cocaine milk. Drop some knowledge, Joe Rogan. Aaron Pryor. You motherfuckers don't know dick. The magic bottle.
Starting point is 02:17:30 That's right. The same one Dana brought out for the fight against Alto against Conor McGregor. That's the same one they gave fucking Conor against Alto. Don't tell me. I know the characteristics
Starting point is 02:17:43 of that fucking milk. Don't tell me. I know the characteristics of that fucking milk. What the fuck do you think you're dealing with? In the third round, we come out like fucking Aaron Pryor. There it is. Aaron Pryor. What was that trainer's name? Is that Emmanuel Stewart?
Starting point is 02:17:59 Clap it out. I'm Joe Rogan. We're watching it right now. Jamie just put it up. Alexis Arguello. Alexis Arguello. Alexis Arguello. Aaron Pryor. He's getting fucked up.
Starting point is 02:18:08 Panama Lewis. Panama Lewis. Panama Lewis gave the bottle with the original shit. The shit Noriega was sending up. The coke and shit. He mixed up with some coconut water. There ain't no looking back. And then Aaron Pryor came out just throwing bombs and fucked Alexis Arguello up.
Starting point is 02:18:26 That was a great fight, man. A great fight. This is a great fight. This is the way you got to do it. Man, old school boxing. Aaron Pryor. The bottle. This fight's called The Bottle.
Starting point is 02:18:37 Is it called The Bottle? He said, get in the bottle that I mixed. Did they capture that on video? Did they have the bottle on film? Yeah, yeah. He said, give him the bottle that I mixed. Did they capture that on video? Did they have the bottle? Yeah, yeah. He said, give him the bottle that I mixed. It's smoke coming out of it. I wonder what the fuck was in that thing.
Starting point is 02:18:53 Cocaine. Damn, he's doing work. Look at him. Where's the bottle? No, get the other one. The one that I mixed. Look at it. Okay, there's a bottle. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:19:01 Not that one. Give me the other one. How fucking beautiful is that? Okay, that's one bottle. He hands it to him. No, no, no. Not that one. Give me the other one. How fucking beautiful is that? Okay, that's one bottle. He's got him sniffing shit. No, they drank him one, and that was the one he goes, give me that one. Yeah. Bang.
Starting point is 02:19:13 He got hurt before that. He's getting fucked up. Alexis Arguello had a nasty right hand, man. And he was watery as shit. Long. So this is not the main event, is it? Yeah, this is the main event. This is the main event. Here we are.
Starting point is 02:19:25 All right. Let's go right back to the fight. Joey, we're about to watch Wonderboy versus Till. We love you, man. Love you, man. Love you, man. All right. We'll see you this week, brothers.
Starting point is 02:19:34 Thank you. Later. Okay, man. See you. Bye. Here's Darren Till. Who's better than him? He's the best.
Starting point is 02:19:40 Who's better? I love that guy. Oh, then Joey Diaz. Yeah. I thought you were saying Till. I'm like, well, there's two to have right now. Well, it's kind of amazing that he's even top 10 with one
Starting point is 02:19:50 win over a big guy in Donald Cerrone who's really a 155 pounder. It's insane that I'm picking him to win the fight. I am not a fan of how they do the ratings. Do you think ESPN... Remember, that's a Fox thing. So is ESPN going to stick with it? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:20:05 Is it Fox's decision? That was one of Fox's deals. They want rankings because they didn't think the public could understand who was who without the rankings. They're too arbitrary. They're too disagreed upon by high-level people. No matter how you do it, you can never get it right. So you might as well just try it and just let it fly. You've got to have rankings.
Starting point is 02:20:25 This is the problem, though. You just let it fly. It's fighters going, wait, he's six, but I'm five. I'm not fighting six, man. I'm going to fight someone ahead of me. Where before, we didn't know what Darren Till was ranked. We didn't know what Wonderboy was ranked. You've got to do what Pride did.
Starting point is 02:20:36 Just make them fight. If you try in a fight, they'll never ask you again. They try. This is exciting, man. I'm fucking pumped For this fight It took long enough I feel like we've been In for so long
Starting point is 02:20:47 Darren Till's got those Old school tie tattoos On his back The kind they tap in They do that with the Fucking the The tapper You ever seen those
Starting point is 02:20:55 That's those old school Temple Temple tattoos Is that his girlfriend On his arm I think it's his Older girlfriend Or is it his daughter
Starting point is 02:21:04 I don't know No he probably got that In Brazil They probably don't have The best tattoo artist Is that his girlfriend on his arm? I think it's his older girlfriend. Or is it his daughter? No, he probably got that in Brazil. They probably don't have the best tattoo artist. But remember, he was young when he got that. The tattoo? Yeah. It looks like Charlize Theron from Monster. You think there's a guy out there with a tattoo of a chick that's like a one-night stand,
Starting point is 02:21:18 like one crazy night? Of course. That was the hottest chick ever. There's probably a million guys. With the one-night stand? Yeah. Tattoo? Yeah, she sucked the meanest dick ever. He's like, I'm being tatted. Respect.
Starting point is 02:21:30 I'm putting her on my back. Respect. Respect, girl. It's his girlfriend. It's his girlfriend? Okay. So that's a commitment right there, right? Marry her.
Starting point is 02:21:40 You're into that one. That's how scared dudes are of marriage. Look, I'll tattoo you on my arm for life, but I ain't getting married. Marriage is too permanent. It's too dangerous. So many people scared of that marriage, buddy. Here he goes. Darren Till.
Starting point is 02:22:01 Listen to that crowd, man. It's too bad Liverpool lost yesterday. Otherwise, this place would be fucking even on more fire. Look at this. Big moment for this kid. Big moment. We're going to find out a lot about him. Yes, man.
Starting point is 02:22:14 He's big, but so is Wonderboy, man. Wonderboy is a tall fella. He's an inch taller. Wonderboy's not as meaty, is he? No, he's not. Wonderboy's name is Wonderboy. His is the Gorilla. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:25 But who named Wonderboy Wonderboy, and who named the Gorilla the Gorilla? See, that's what's important. That's what's up. Yeah. We need to find that out. What if you called yourself Wonder Boy? People would be like, get the fuck out of here. That's a terrible name.
Starting point is 02:22:36 You call yourself Big Brown? Yeah, that's weird. Hey, what's your name, man? El Toronado. Where'd that come from? Well, I was sitting around thinking about nicknames. Fuck out of here. It says that Dan Hardy gave him the nickname The Gorilla.
Starting point is 02:22:51 Oh, there you go. That makes sense. How long ago did he give it to him? Well, this says he officially accepted it as of January 20th. Oh, fucking week, man. Real recent. Well, fuck. What was his name before then?
Starting point is 02:23:03 Well, I didn't know Dan Hart. I was like, oh, I just referred to him as the gorilla, and then three days ago he rode with it. I thought this was his name for a while now. Well, it's January. We're into May, so it's technically legit. Five months. I mean, after he beat Cerrone. Well, how long does a man have to keep a nickname before it's a legit nickname?
Starting point is 02:23:22 There's some fucking rules here, bro. It's unspoken rules. Your nickname could be Sidekick. I don't have a nickname, man. Come on, Joe. Sidekick. You don't want to be known as Sidekick. Yeah, I'm a wingman. No, but you know, it's Sidekick. We know
Starting point is 02:23:37 as a martial arts tournament, everyone else is like, the Sidekick? No girl wants to fuck the Sidekick. Yeah, it's the same thing like Dennis, though. If you know the real meaning to the dentist, it sounds... Right. The dentist also isn't getting his dick sucked in the bar. See, the dentist is such an obscure nickname, I think you've got to leave Josh near alone.
Starting point is 02:23:55 I agree. That's his nickname. That's an obscure one, you know? But didn't they call Eve Edwards the dentist at one point in time? Because Eve Edwards fucked up Aaron Riley. Yes, yes. Remember that? He destroyed him.
Starting point is 02:24:08 That was like a fucking shoot. Broke his whole palate. Aaron Riley was one of those tough, tough journeymen. Yeah. He was just that tough, dude. Remember when Robbie Lawler made his UFC debut against Aaron Riley and just beat the brakes off of him? That's another super impressive performance by Rafael Dos Anjos, right? The Robbie Lawler fight. Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:24:28 God damn. That was an amazing fight. Amazing. He's like one of the best examples of a guy who was holding himself back by staying in a lower weight class. He did get the belt though. Yes he did, but he couldn't take it anymore. His body couldn't take it anymore. He was so
Starting point is 02:24:43 big. I ran into him in between fights when he was fighting 55, and he was 200 pounds. It was just too much for him. He was so big. Then he started to decline a little bit because the weight cut was fucked. Then he went to 70. Now he's a nightmare. Here we go. Wonder boy.
Starting point is 02:24:57 How tall is Dos Anjos? He's short for a 170, right? I think he's 5'9". Shorter, yeah. Let's see if you can find it, Jamie. He might even be 5'8". Short, or yeah. Let's see if you can find it, Jamie. I think he might even be 5'8". Yeah, that's kind of short. How tall is Kelvin?
Starting point is 02:25:10 5'9". Kelvin's probably like 5'10". Yeah, he is 5'9". But he's doing 85. But Tyron's 5'9", too, right? 5'9"? No, he's got to be 5'10", 5'11". No way. Woodley? Woodley? I'd say 5'9". I think he's 5'9". He's so thick.'10 5'11 No way Woodley Woodley I'd say 5'9
Starting point is 02:25:25 I think he's 5'9 He's so thick That's what's so impressive I think Woodley's 5'11 Oh he's 5'9 it says No one's got a bigger Badonkadonk than Woodley When he walks in
Starting point is 02:25:35 The tailpiece He has fucking thighs On that guy And ass He generates so much force You know I'm 5'9 now I'm all proud
Starting point is 02:25:44 I'm all proud of it fuck yeah that leg uh dude anytime i fill out some medical shit they say fucking hi to say five nine motherfucker you know what i mean how is the back feeling it it's hard to tell because i haven't been able to train because of my knee and my shoulder so when i get back you know my knee's feeling better i'm on the bike 30 minutes you know a So you got your knee scoped? I decided to hold off on the shoulder surgery. Yeah? I decided, yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:11 What did they want to do to you? What kind of shit you got wrong in there? The labrum, rotator cuff. But I finally got a second opinion yesterday. And they told me, man, unless it's hurting really bad, just hold off on it. Hold off on it why? It's just, I don't want to go into surgery again, man. Just again.
Starting point is 02:26:40 I just had knee surgery and then shoulder surgery. And back surgery just a year ago. I'm going to try to rehab it with shoulder rehab exercises. I'm going to go that route first. And if that doesn't work, then I'll have surgery. But I decided I'm not going to have surgery on my shoulder. They're doing some crazy shit down in Panama. Panama.
Starting point is 02:26:59 It's $25,000, though. It's expensive. And you know, when Mel Gibson was on your podcast, I don't know, man. I'd have to, is there a possibility that he was like, you know, he has some financial interest in the company or something? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:27:16 It's hard to tell. He really wanted to do it for Dr. Reardon. He's good friends with that guy. Did he help his dad? He helped his dad. I want to believe all that shit's real. Talk to TJ. But every time there's, you hear about stem cells, there's a new way, and they do it different,
Starting point is 02:27:29 and now they're taking stem cells from here instead of there. It's like, dude, figure that shit out first. They're all good. Yeah, exactly. They're all good, but they keep getting better at it. But talk to TJ, because TJ had some raving things to say about Panama. Dillashaw? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:43 He's been down there twice. After the Mel Gibson podcast? Oh, really? Before and after. He was there before, and then he went again. He went again recently. He said it's- Why do you have to go again?
Starting point is 02:27:54 Here we go. The fight's starting. Here we go. I'm scared. Someone's going to need some- Yeah, I hope that's real, man. They just tapped gloves and hugged each other. Holy shit, this is intense.
Starting point is 02:28:01 Yeah, there's a lot of respect for shirts. I know. I have no idea what's going to happen. This is intense. Yeah, there's a lot of respect for shirts. I know. I have no idea what's going to happen. This is intense. It's very rare you have no idea what's going to happen. No idea. Literally no idea. I'm kind of nervous.
Starting point is 02:28:14 Here we go. Here we go. Bam. Wonder Boy's going to have to be smart. A lot of footwork. Two southpaws, too. Another big point. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:28:23 Look at the size of Till's fucking thighs. Boy, their styles. Look at their styles. Exact same. Both real loose, but more Muay Thai-based with Till. He's going to throw front leg round kicks. The thing about Wonderboy is he's all light on the toes, too. Yeah, his trigger is insane.
Starting point is 02:28:43 Leg kick right away by Till. Very interesting. I'm so curious about this fight. Did you see that video Till put out of him sparring, just beating the shit out of some guy? Yeah, it was weird, right? Yeah, very strange. Yeah. Did that guy hurt him?
Starting point is 02:28:57 He didn't look that good, but he knocked him out. Yeah, hurting him too. Yeah, I wouldn't post that if I was him. Yeah, and then he posted some of him getting hit too after that because he said people are calling him a bully that i don't like because that means he's reading the comments and then he's reacting to those comments which means people can fuck with his head if you're a young fighter it's gonna be tough man to navigate through well those comments you got to leave them alone you have to because there's so many you're dealing
Starting point is 02:29:22 with a you know a pool of thousands and thousands of people. And who knows who they are or what their agenda is. But also a lot of those people aren't happy for your success. They're miserable in their life, so they come at you. Of course. Especially a guy like Till who's on the rise. Yeah. Or anyone in the spotlight.
Starting point is 02:29:40 Tries that switch kick off the front leg. UFC might want to hire someone to help these younger guys with that. Well, just give them a little psychological counseling on how to handle it. Get a social media expert in there. He's also going to close the distance and lend that left hand over the top. Wonderboy's not there, though. Yeah. Wonderboy's footwork is freaking ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:29:58 Well, this is the perfect kind of style for him, too. An aggressive guy coming forward. This is what he's used to. Yeah, I have to imagine that's why he took the fight just stylistically. He's like, yeah, big guy, aggressive, let's do it. Right, after the fight. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:12 Even though, remember, he just beat Masvidal. Ooh, see, Wonderboy, he shouldn't be there. Right. He better get the fuck out of there. Don't stay there. Yeah, he landed that leg kick, but he was a little off balance. Yeah, he didn't recuperate. Well, Darren made a shift as he was going to launch that leg kick,
Starting point is 02:30:27 and he put him in a weird position where he was off balance. I mean, there's some good adjustments going on here. Both guys trying to find the range. I'll tell you what. Oh, shit. God, he's about to fire one off, man. He likes that slide with the right hand forward and then looked to pop. Ew, good.
Starting point is 02:30:43 Oh, shit. One-two. Damn. Quick one-two. Wonderboy letting him know. Still there. Wonderboy hasn't had a finish in a long time. Still there.
Starting point is 02:30:50 Look, Till's a little hesitant now. Wait a little bit now. Be careful. He's like a cobra, man. Be careful. Oh. You're talking about a dude who was like 57-0 as a kickboxer. That's how good Wonderboy is.
Starting point is 02:31:03 I agree. As far as high-level striking, I can't remember the last time two strikers were matched up this well. No, and this is five rounds, son. Oh, I'll take it. Ooh. Yeah, who knows what's going to happen in this fight. This is interesting. So high level.
Starting point is 02:31:19 They're just trying to figure each other out. Stepped in with the left hand. Popped him with the left hand. Just caught him at the end of it. Not a lot of power, but reached him. He's letting Till know that he's down a snap. He's also switching legs, switching stances. Now he's all sideways.
Starting point is 02:31:34 It's hard to find a training partner who's going to emulate Wonderboy, man. Yep. You don't really get a real look at it until you're one to the body. He's picking his shots beautifully. I think he's trying to frustrate Till, so Till jumps in and makes him a... Oh, shit. He's picking his shots beautifully. I think he's trying to frustrate Till, so Till jumps in and makes a mistake. Oh, shit. Looked for it. I don't think that landed, though, huh?
Starting point is 02:31:53 No. Looked cool, though. And I was on board. I yelled out, you got to get off the cage here. You got to get out. Yeah, I think for one one of these first two rounds Just try to frustrate Till What time is it in England right now?
Starting point is 02:32:10 They're seven hours ahead Eight Are they eight? Eight So it's fucking Eight o'clock It's really late Oh you were saying eight o'clock
Starting point is 02:32:18 Eight thirty at night See I think it's seven thirty It's eight hours Is it? Trust me Yeah you probably know I think it's 7.30. It's eight hours. Is it? Trust me. Yeah, you probably know. So it's 9.30 p.m. right now.
Starting point is 02:32:31 8.30, bro. 8.30. What time is it now? 12.30. I looked at my watch. Unless there's a couple different time zones in the UK. I thought it was just one. They might not have daylight savings time or something.
Starting point is 02:32:44 Nobody should have that. Night's bullshit, man. Arizona does it right. They do. They're like, fuck you. Why do we fuck with it? In that hour of sleep we lose? God, go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 02:32:52 It's ridiculous. So should we get a two-year-old? Yeah. But how about when you gain that hour? Oh, it's nice when you gain it for like two days. Not worth it, bro. It's not worth it. Fuck my life up.
Starting point is 02:33:00 Just in the morning, it's dark. In the afternoon, it's not. Your boy's two? Yeah, he's two now? Yeah, it's dark. In the afternoon, it's not. Your boy's two? Yeah, he's two now? Yeah. Nine, six. God dang. Damn.
Starting point is 02:33:11 He's all into Harry Potter and shit now. That's cool. Damn. We go to Universal Studios. How awesome is that ride? If you haven't been to Universal Studios, you need to go. Universal Studios fucking rules now. The 3D simulations?
Starting point is 02:33:25 Yeah, hell yeah. High level. That Harry Potter ride? It's amazing. Holy fuck. Dude, the New Garden of the Galaxy at Disney is pretty sick. Yeah, it is. I was straight up scared on that ride.
Starting point is 02:33:35 I was scared. And then the Transformer ride is amazing. That's legit. And also- The Simpsons ride is amazing. Simpsons is amazing. Simpsons Land is sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:42 The Springfield there. One of my favorite rides ever. Yeah. You know what's the best ride ever Simpson's amazing. Simpsonland is sick. Yeah. Yeah. Springfield there. It's one of my favorite rides ever. Yeah. You know what's the best ride ever, all time, hands down? Flight to Passage Avatar ride in Disney World in Orlando. Is it like a simulation? It's incredible, dude. It's incredible.
Starting point is 02:33:58 So far. It's like virtual reality. You go in, you sit on this bike, you're riding a dragon. You saw Avatar, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. You're riding one of those things through the fucking jungle. What? God damn, that sounds sick.
Starting point is 02:34:07 It is every, think of like, have you ever done that, there's the thing at Disneyland called Soaring Over the World, where it's amazing, giant screen, and you're flying like over India and over Everest. It's amazing. Sure that's not Disney World? No, no, I just did it. Yeah, he said Disney World. He just said, yeah, Disney World.
Starting point is 02:34:26 No, Disneyland has soaring over the world. Oh. But here we go. Round two. Fuck Disney World. We'll continue that round. I'll remember. Oh!
Starting point is 02:34:36 Till getting a little more aggressive. Till tagged him with that left hand. And that castle, that Harry Potter castle that they built, like what the fuck? It's amazing. No, it's incredible. Till's getting way more amped up. Oh, shit. It's like one mistake, man.
Starting point is 02:34:50 I know. Wonder Boy is such a good counter fighter. Oh, he lives for it, doesn't he? Oh, got to get off the fucking fence, Wonder Boy. That's all Till wants. So that first round, you got to give it to Wonderboy, right? Yeah. I mean, super close, but yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:07 Yeah, give it to Wonderboy. Yeah, give it to Wonderboy. Not a whole lot going on. I mean, he landed like maybe two shots. One to the body, then that one-two. Remember this, though. They're in Liverpool. He's the hometown kid, and the judges look at octagon control.
Starting point is 02:35:21 So it's not necessarily you could give it to Wonderboy on that. But Darren Till, I don't think, think landed anything But he's going forward and the judges are morons so like oh going forward that works. Oh give it a till He did a good job didn't he? They always ask a question after they say something He's amazing isn't he? Fantastic right hand wasn't it Amazing, isn't he? Fantastic right hand, wasn't it?
Starting point is 02:35:50 This fight's about to get loose in the third round, I feel like. Well, it's getting loose already. A little bit. It's just such a dangerous chess game. I know. And Wonderboy hands motherfucking down, son. He's always like that. Always like that. That's that karate style, son.
Starting point is 02:36:03 Ooh, look for it. Till slid. Slid to the right. Till's elbows are no joke son. Ooh, look for it. Till slid. Slid to the right. Till's elbows are no joke either. No. If he gets in close there. The one that he landed on, Cowboy, was ruthless. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:36:13 Who else has he beaten? That's about it, sir. Yeah, I'm really in terms of big names. There's not anybody else. He hasn't really knocked you off your socks before that Cowboy fight. He's had some decisions. They had an early knockout. He stopped somebody, too?
Starting point is 02:36:27 No, early on he had one stoppage. Oh, shit. Ooh. Damn. Wonderboy with the left hand over the top of the exchange. Wonderboy fighting very smart, man. Yeah. Well, this is, again, stylistically such a great fight
Starting point is 02:36:39 because this is the style that Wonderboy really does like. He likes a guy that's uber aggressive. And in terms of high-level technique, both these guys are really good. Really, really good. Damn. Oh, Till. Till keeps throwing that front leg side kick to the front leg. Oh.
Starting point is 02:36:56 Nope. Wonderboy a little short with that. He doesn't like it. That's like Hickson. Yeah. He doesn't like it. No. Wonderboy's going to have to adapt to that.
Starting point is 02:37:03 Yeah. They both switch it up, don't they? Yep. Oh, shit. Woo! Just missed that head kick, son. But a miss by an inch is as good as a mile. Till's got great distance control.
Starting point is 02:37:17 They both do, don't they? They both do. They both do, don't they? Don't they? Don't they? That's Irish, isn't it? I don't know. My accents suck.
Starting point is 02:37:26 We need Hanato in here. Do some schaus for us. Amazing kid. Liverpool's definitely a different accent, too. It's thick, man. Yeah. Sunderland, Liverpool. Thick-ass.
Starting point is 02:37:38 Liverpool, I think, is Ozzy Osbourne. Oh, rushing in, man. Wonderboy loves to do that switch stance blitz. But it's so hard to figure out what the fuck he's going to do because he switches stances while he does it sometimes. And then we'll throw a kick. Yeah. He's about to rush in again.
Starting point is 02:37:59 Till's just trying to figure out and pin him down, but, man, it's not there. This is Wonderboy's game plan, man. Give them the commit and make a mistake. They need to capitalize. But Till's doing a good job of not giving them much space where the cage is. This is not happening in the center of the cage as much as it's... Wonderboy tried that switch.
Starting point is 02:38:17 I wonder if Till's going to feel any pressure to get a finish. Because Till is absolutely controlling the center of the cage. Wonderboy does not have a lot... Well, now they're in the center. And you know that wins rounds for these judges. Yeah. Because they don't understand fighting. That place is packed, too, man.
Starting point is 02:38:38 Oh, I'm sure. They say he's a superstar in Liverpool. Yeah, superstar. He'll be the face of England, man. Oh, yeah. If he had big knockout hair, he'd be the face. Because Bisping obviously is, but he's retired. Yeah, who else is coming up in England?
Starting point is 02:38:57 We got Michael Venom Page, right? Sure, yeah. But he's not on this level. Well, why don't they give him high-level fights? He just had fought Rickles. Did you see what he did to him? No. He fucked him up.
Starting point is 02:39:10 I heard. He exploded his face and choked him out. Yeah. And that was like his first, like, they weren't feeding him, you know? Like, that was a tough fight. Mike Van Page daily next, they say. Oh. And Roy McDonald Musassi.
Starting point is 02:39:24 Ooh, those are two very good fights I really I really like Paige daily because they don't like each other if I can hate each other I like that fight a lot shout out to all the 10th Planet schools in the UK. We got like eight now Lund 10th of London Birmingham how many cranberry redditch Darlington? Shit am I missing one? Oh, Glasgow. That's Scotland.
Starting point is 02:39:48 Scotland. How many he got worldwide? About 100. That's amazing. Yeah, it's crazy. Ooh. And it keeps growing, man. It keeps growing.
Starting point is 02:39:58 Ooh. He hit him with that sidekick in the knee. You see Wonderboy's leg buckle? See that in the replay? He didn't like that. He hit him with three straight. One of them really made his knee buckle, man. Those things fucking suck.
Starting point is 02:40:09 Here it is. Michael Van and Paige. Boosh! Wheel kicked him. Oh, shit. Damn. He's so fast. That's, again, karate. He comes from that point fighting background. You know, there's a great karate match that I watched.
Starting point is 02:40:28 I mean, I don't know how many times they fought, but they fought point fighting. Way back in the day, Raymond Daniels and Michael Venom Page fought each other in point fighting. Now, Raymond Daniels is the glory champion, and Michael Venom Page is coming up in Bellator. Very interesting. Or he's a Bellator champion now, Raymond Daniels is the glory champion, and Michael Venn and Page is coming up in Bellator. Very interesting. Or he's a Bellator champion now, Raymond Daniels, right? He left glory. Here we go. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:41:03 Here we go. Here we go. Darren Till, super aggressive here now. I wonder if Wonderboy's knee is okay. Because those... He still hasn't landed anything, though, except for those sidekicks to the knee. Yeah, he hasn't landed anything to the head. Nothing. Wonderboy's knee seems fine.
Starting point is 02:41:24 He's moving fine. Two rounds so far and no shot to the knee yeah he doesn't land anything to the head nothing wonder boy's knee seems fine he's moving fine two rounds so far no shot to the head yeah oh kick to the body well the whole thing with wonder boy is just you make a mistake and he counters you and so far till hasn't really made any mistakes, but Wonderboy's found a few openings. But there's never been like one big bum rush where he left a gap and Wonderboy could drop a ball on him. Did I miss anything? Nope, nothing.
Starting point is 02:41:58 But they did show the replay, the knee buckling of Wonderboy. It looked pretty nasty. Oh, yeah? From what? From that sidekick. Oh, wow. From his front leg that sidekick. Oh, wow. From a front leg sidekick to the knee. But he's moving fine. It doesn't seem like he's limping at all.
Starting point is 02:42:11 And he threw some kicks with that left leg. It would be nice. You have it 1-1? It's hard to tell. It would be nice if Wonderboy was a little more aggressive, though. Yeah. It would be nice. He'd get knocked out.
Starting point is 02:42:22 He can't. You think so? Same thing with the Woodley fight. Everyone like go be more aggressive like and get fucking starched by Woodley that isn't a fighter yeah it's still you gotta well this is his style man this is his style you know his style is move around but the thing is till is so high level as well that it's hard for this style to even find its home. You have an aggressive
Starting point is 02:42:46 versus counter striker. I don't know what people expect. Like early Machida. Yeah. How about that Machida front kick to Vitor's face? How dare you, Machida? How fucking dare you?
Starting point is 02:42:56 The man signed off fighting and went, you know what? Enjoy your retirement. He goosh. Yeah, crazy, right? That was one of the worst knockouts ever.
Starting point is 02:43:05 And then just walks off. Fucking nasty. Starts praying. Yeah, crazy, right? That was one of the worst knockouts ever. And then just walks off. Fucking nasty. Starts praying. Did you see the photo of the foot on the face? Yeah. Textbook front kick. Balls of the feet. You think Vitor goes to Rival and just juices with every Brazilian drug ever?
Starting point is 02:43:19 My heart hopes so. Me too. I pray for that at night. I pray for it. I want a golden master's division. Yeah, just go off. I want to see veins in his teeth again. It pray for that at night. I pray for it. I want a golden Masters division. Yeah, just go off. I want to see veins in his teeth again. It's crazy that he's still fighting.
Starting point is 02:43:30 Jesus Christ. I know. Veins in his gums. Dude, he was around in the early days. And he's the only guy from the early days still fighting. Yeah. Wonderboy caught him with that right hand. I mean, you could say the same thing for Dan Henderson, but he's officially retired.
Starting point is 02:43:43 Yeah, he's retired. But Wonderboy, I mean, Vitor was around UFC 12. That's crazy. Henderson was around in 98, so it wasn't much longer afterwards. You know? Crazy, really. They fought, right? Dan Henderson and Vitor?
Starting point is 02:43:59 A couple times. Yeah, Vitor KO'd him. Both times? Yep. Oh! Oh, he caught him with our right hand. See, Till's starting to get anxious here. This one's going to get in trouble, man.
Starting point is 02:44:13 Ooh! He's looking for the head kick, son. When Wonderboy gets big KOs, it's usually his legs, man. I mean, his hands are dangerous, but his power's in those fucking legs. Oh, shit. He's thrown that head kick a few times. That was a sick slip by Till. Who does Till train with?
Starting point is 02:44:28 I don't know much about his team. Cabone and Liverpool. Oh, his coach is Colin. I forget his last name. It's crazy when one of his boys' dad
Starting point is 02:44:39 cranes him, right? Yeah. It'd be tough dynamic. Ooh. Damn, that really ended. No, just touched him. But he did touch him at the very end with that round kick to the face.
Starting point is 02:44:49 He might be fine in an opening for that one-two blitz. Oh, Till just tagged him with that jab. I have a hard time believing these judges don't have it three-nothing. Right, right. In Liverpool, octagon control. Well, it depends on who the judges are, too, right? Are they American judges? control. I'm not saying it's right. Well, it depends on who the judges are, too, right? Are they American judges?
Starting point is 02:45:08 Are they English judges? They're all morons, though, aren't they? All around the world. Unfortunately. I love the fact that you could say that. You don't work for anybody. I know. Isn't it cool when you can't? I have no repercussions.
Starting point is 02:45:21 Oh, no. Till got poked in the eye? Get the fuck out of here. Mark Goddard's more worried about an eye poke than anybody. Boy, that doctor got in that room quick. That doctor just jumped in. God, where'd he come from? And now he's out.
Starting point is 02:45:42 He's trying to get a little too much TV time. Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely didn't mean to poca reno oh they're booing him yeah he's saying no don't boom oh shit sometimes i poked really rev a dude up or a dick kick oh my god damn till's getting wild here No don't get too comfortable Okay there you go Left hand over the top Oh shit Oh we got ourselves
Starting point is 02:46:09 A cock fight Oh he's getting crazy here Dude That eye poke Really I wish you would've poked That in the first round This is the end of the round here
Starting point is 02:46:19 Oh now Now it's trying to get loose Now it's about to get fun Okay that was three So we got two more to go Thank god This is a five rounder right, that was three. So we got two more to go. Thank God this is a five-rounder, right? If that was three rounds, I'd be pissed.
Starting point is 02:46:30 You'd feel so cheated. I'd talk so much shit on that fight if it was just three rounds. It ended there. Yeah. Man. That dude has a prominent forehead, cheekbone situation going on. Yeah, I think Genghis Khan got a little bit of that in him, didn't he? A little bit of. He's definitely got some fucking ancient man in him.
Starting point is 02:46:50 Yeah, he does. I don't look like him. He definitely. Boom, that right hand. That was a nice counter. He countered him here. Boom, boom. Oh, that got him.
Starting point is 02:47:00 That made it. It definitely tagged him. He slid with it. Yeah, he went with it, but it caught him at the end of it for sure. Look, Wonderboy done like tired. This is his style. You know, he's so efficient at doing that. Oh, both these guys could do this for 10 rounds.
Starting point is 02:47:14 Yeah. Round four. Here we go. God, this is a fight that is a great argument for the five-round fight for high-level fights. Oh, 100%. Yeah. We would feel so bad if we were leaving here and that was it. Like, who won?
Starting point is 02:47:31 Who cares? What even happened? Like, what are the stats on punches and kicks landed? Yeah, unless you're super into MMA, you'd be so disappointed. Wonderboy with a hard jab right there, kid. Dang, Teal better watch his P's and Q's though. You're too hard, man. Yeah. But,
Starting point is 02:47:50 juice is worth the squeeze if you can get a knockdown. Oh, shit. Damn. This is getting hot. Yeah, because, yeah, Darren Till's never been five rounds, has he? No, I don't think so. He hasn't, especially in the UFC.
Starting point is 02:48:17 This is his first main, well, first time. Because his main event against Cowboy, obviously, starts Cowboy, so he hasn't. Yeah, that's his first main event, right? And what about outside of the UFC? How many fights has he had? He had, what, 17? Or 14, I'm sorry. Crazy speaks perfect Portuguese.
Starting point is 02:48:37 Oh, does he? I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, man. Who? Darren Till. Goddamn, this kid's marketable. When he fought in Brazil, he spoke Portuguese to the crowd. He lived there for like 10 years right yeah i watched one of his uh older fights when he stopped this guy and he uh spoke portuguese to the crowd after the fight the guy up yeah
Starting point is 02:48:54 first 10 fights were there wow yeah he went down that just went to live down there they had to get out of liverpool because i guess there's a little toxic for him. Well, he got stabbed. Yeah, you can see the stab mark. Where is it? Lower, like, on his, it'd be on his right side. He got stabbed in Brazil? Right above his hip. In England. In Liverpool, in his hometown.
Starting point is 02:49:15 And his coach told him, hey, you got to get out of here, man. They need to ban knives in the UK. Enough's enough. How many more people got to get stabbed? That's, you know, the London mayor Enough's enough. How many more people have got to get stabbed? That's, you know, the London mayor actually said that
Starting point is 02:49:28 if you get caught with a knife, you'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. What about if I got to open boxes? The princess's
Starting point is 02:49:37 brother-in-law or brother got caught with one when he went over there for the royal wedding last week. Oh, that,
Starting point is 02:49:42 he got caught with a knife? Yeah, he said he took one because Trump said that you should take one with him. He was in a bar. Oh, he's crazy. Is he crazy?
Starting point is 02:49:49 Her brother's crazy? She's a dime piece, man. I'm assuming you two have no idea about the royal wedding. I don't give a fuck about that. I'm watching this fight here, son. Wonderboy with the step-in jab. Not a lot of action in this fight. Oh!
Starting point is 02:50:08 Wonder Boy looking for that left hand over the top. Did it land? Nope. Just kind of grazed him. It's kind of hard to tell. His back was to us. It's going to be a tough fucking fight to judge, man. Till's having a hard time hitting him.
Starting point is 02:50:22 That's for damn sure. Beautiful duck under there Look at this Till with the clinch What if he takes him down? Do we just stop the fight? Interesting that Till's the one Holding onto him here
Starting point is 02:50:33 Oh elbow over the top Trying to get that clinch His Muay Thai is nasty Good elbow on the break there If you're one of them That's exactly what he wanted That leg's kind of fucked up, that lead leg, right leg. Yep, it does look a little bruised.
Starting point is 02:50:49 Ooh, good kick to the body. You guys watch that show, Cobra Kai? No, I haven't seen it. It's supposed to be good. Yeah, no, it's great. That's a crazy welt on Wonderboy's leg. I really haven't noticed him getting hit that much. Me neither.
Starting point is 02:51:03 It's on both legs, too. Obviously, the right leg's worse with that left leg. It's pretty tender, rony, too. The right leg looks really fucked up. It does. I don't really remember him kicking that hard. It must have been when he was standing southpaw. Sideways, you know?
Starting point is 02:51:17 And now he hasn't gone back then, has he? Really? Not much. Not this round? Doesn't like it. Oh, my God. I mean, his footwork's just stupid, so Darren Till can't really get a read on him. But, again, the judges are giving that to Till.
Starting point is 02:51:31 Yeah, nothing big has happened where you go, oh, that guy definitely is in control of the fight. If someone just knocks someone down, you've got the fight. The judge might go, he gots it. Good right hand to the body. Judge might go up. He gots it. Good right hand to the body. Such a high-level chess game here. All right, which I dig it.
Starting point is 02:51:53 I'm on the edge of my seat. But if you're just a regular fan, come on, man. I tell you what, he's going to get more shit, his Wonder Boy, because of his Woodley fights, which is obviously not his fault. Yeah, but this is like. No, it's not his fault. I'm just saying the public's going to get more shit, his Wonder Boy, because of his Woodley fights, which is obviously not his fault. Yeah, but this is like... No, it's not his fault. I'm just saying the public's going to give him shit. I guess.
Starting point is 02:52:09 I don't know. It's what it is. So this is the... I mean, you want to beat him. You got to come after him. When you come after him, you run into the wood chipper. But the thing is, he's not winning when he does this. But he didn't win against Woodley when he did this, for sure.
Starting point is 02:52:23 But he's won previously. Yeah, he's obviously got number one for a reason. He's number one in the world with his style. Something happened there. God, that back leg is fucked up, man. Yeah. A little too friendly, boys. A little too friendly right there.
Starting point is 02:52:35 Yeah, he's wobbling a little on the back to his corner. That leg is fucked up, man. Maybe they just get loose in this fifth round. They're saving it for the fifth round, Eddie. I hope so Me too Because again, if it stopped right here, I'd be bummed out I'd be like, okay
Starting point is 02:52:49 This fight's been pretty lackluster Yeah I was really crumpled They're going to give it to Till Oh, 100% You think so? Every round, they give it to one And then one judge is like, we don't want to make it too obvious
Starting point is 02:53:00 So they give one to one to Boy I don't know I'd say he's up three to one. Till? Yeah. Really? Because of the judges. Yes.
Starting point is 02:53:09 But not because of what you think, right? Even then it'd be tough. You could maybe go two-two, but I'd say Till's winning this fight. I don't know about that. I think Wonderboy's winning. Can I get some goddamn CompuStrike numbers, Fox? I know. No wonder they left your ass. Just kidding. Can I get some goddamn CompuStrike numbers, Fox? I know. No wonder they left your ass.
Starting point is 02:53:25 Just kidding. Can I get something? How's your show going on Showtime? Enjoying it? Yeah. It's been good, man. It's been fun. Nice. It's been a lot of fun. Did you know that guy that just died? From the comedy division? I did not. Did you? No. Everybody seems to think he's a... I might have met
Starting point is 02:53:44 him, but everybody seems to think he's a really good guy. That sucks, man. 55, man. I know. Such a shame. Crazy. Burt loved the guy. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:53 Yeah. Burt had something real nice to say about him. So did Dice. That's a bummer, man. Yeah. Till's super aggressive here coming out from the finish. Yeah, I'm sure he wants to get the finish. Probably feels a little bit of pressure.
Starting point is 02:54:06 And he should. Okay, they're saying Darren Till's corner is very urgent. Like he's losing the fight? Yeah. I think he's losing. You do? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:23 Yeah, I think if I would count up all the different strikes. Strikes that landed? Yeah. Close according to the UFC thing. I don't know how accurate that is. Close in terms of strikes landed? It says 48 to 42. God damn. That's tough to judge. Yeah, that's impossible. And then you have one aggressor, right?
Starting point is 02:54:39 In Liverpool. Isn't that crazy? Five rounds, 48 strikes landed. That got two crazy. Isn't that crazy? Five rounds, 48 strikes landed. That is just bananas. A lot of defense going on. Yeah. A lot of missing as well. A lot of movement.
Starting point is 02:54:52 Pushed out. Right hand. You'd think would make for a great. Oh, there's a good right hand by Till. A little jab to the grill face. Sidekick. No one's really going balls to the wall are they No Darren Till would go balls to the walls
Starting point is 02:55:15 But Wonderboy keeps moving It's hard You're fucking right he keeps moving You don't get blasts in the face Yeah it's hard Wonderboy come on man Just sit there for us. What was that about? He threw a shitty wheel kick and then shook his head and then they touched gloves.
Starting point is 02:55:30 That's fucking weird. Switched up on him. These two are a little too friendly for my liking. He's looking to set up his wheel kick with his left leg. Someone throw something. Anything. The crowd's like, yeah, you have them there, Till.
Starting point is 02:55:46 But he doesn't. Ooh, there he landed a left hand. Why are they touching? Why touch dab? Because he got out of the
Starting point is 02:55:55 goddamn corner? What is that about? Gorillas don't act like that. I don't understand this. They just touch gloves again. Too much respect. I know. There's not enough
Starting point is 02:56:04 killer instinct in this. He's looking for that low fake and then go with the high round kick off the front leg. He does that sometimes, but he didn't do it. I'd like to know how many miles they've ran in this goddamn fight. You kind of give it to them for sticking to their foot. No one's getting out of composure here. Two pros pros. No, I get the style.
Starting point is 02:56:23 You don't want to risk it. But if you're not balls deep into fighting, you're not happy with this fight. I'm not thrilled with it, but I get it. This is one of the most uneventful big events. Ooh, good jabs by Till. Oh! Damn. Big shot by Till.
Starting point is 02:56:42 Guillotine. Oh, I thought he had it there. Oh, shit. That's enough to win the fight. 100%. That's all you needed. Oh Big shot by Till Guillotine Oh he I thought he had it there Oh shit That's enough to win the fight 100% That's all you needed Don't get dropped here
Starting point is 02:56:51 Little bit of time to go Little bit of time to go Damn how hard Did that motherfucker hit It didn't look like It landed like behind the ear We'd have to look at it In the replay
Starting point is 02:56:58 But look where you hurt him That Wonderboy's gotta Move his ass now He lost the fight Well Wonderboy's in trouble now He might just He's flat footed Yeah Wonderboy's in a little bit now. He lost the fight. Well, Wonderboy's in trouble now. He's flat-footed. Wonderboy's in a little bit of trouble.
Starting point is 02:57:08 That's what tail lifts were. Damn, Wonderboy would've won, too. Till just out of range for it to hurt. This got interesting, that's for sure. Listen to the crowd, man. Everyone's on their feet now. But this is like Wonderboy when he fought Tyron Woodley too, right? Got tagged, got hurt. And then people rush in and get dealt with.
Starting point is 02:57:36 Look at this. Wonderboy with a fucking takedown. You know shit ain't exciting when someone's shooting for a takedown out of these two. Yeah. Oh, straight left. Wonder Boy's still dangerous. Crazy, right? 40 seconds left, boys.
Starting point is 02:58:01 Maybe Till just thinks he has him in the bag. I don't think so. I just think he doesn't want to get tagged coming in. He's a little tired, too. Mouth's open. Hasn't been a high pace. There's been a lot of footwork, though, so he might be a little. Well, you've got to remember, Till did have a real hard time cutting that weight.
Starting point is 02:58:21 Oh, and he's been going through a lot. You're right. They need some get downs in this. You ain't lying, Eddie. No stand-ups, just get downs. Get down. Yeah, there's no way you can give Wonderboy the fight after that. No.
Starting point is 02:58:41 He'll be hard-pressed. Especially in Liverpool. It's over. Oh, man. Damn, Wonderboy's in a tough spot now. I don't know why he's that happy about that. That was, I mean, he landed a good shot. He was trying.
Starting point is 02:58:54 It wasn't like he wasn't trying. Yeah. He was moving forward the whole time. So where would you rank Tilton after that lackluster performance? Because Wonderboy's number one. You don't rank him number one, obviously. I think you put him in the top. Wonderboy is just a nightmare for everybody.
Starting point is 02:59:07 He's a nightmare for everybody. It's tough to look good against him. A win over him is a win. He beat him. That's a big win. So you put him at number one? Well, he didn't even make the weight. So that's where it gets tricky.
Starting point is 02:59:20 You don't know who gives a fuck about that. Right, but you're saying that they fought. Here's that front leg sidekick that wobbled his knee. Good job, Metro PCS, a block in the vision. God damn it, Metro PCS. Why would they do that? Why would they have that right where you need to see? I'll tell you right now.
Starting point is 02:59:34 If you're my friend and you have Metro PCS, we are not friends anymore. Where's the knockdown? Where's the knockdown? Do you get angry just because of that? Well, no. I get angry because of the cricket of wireless cell phones now. Cricket? Oh, there it is. Oh, shit. That was a because the cricket of wireless cell phones now. Cricket? Oh, shit. That was a hard
Starting point is 02:59:47 fucking left hand. Let me see this. Boom! Right behind the ear. That was legit. That won him the fight. He clobbered him right there. Right behind the ear, huh? That was as legit as it gets. That was the most action fight. That was the legit shot of the fight. Like, one legit shot. That's why, like, if you have 49
Starting point is 03:00:04 other strikes that land, do they even count? I mean, that's a real strike that landed. Now, do you ever use the word clobber when you're calling fights? I don't call fights, but clobber's not in my dictionary. No? Clobber! It's too old school? Clobbering. Clobbered him.
Starting point is 03:00:20 Clobbering. Clobber. Who says, oh, the thing says that, right? Yeah, the thing from Fantastic Four. Clobbering. Who says, oh, the thing says that, right? Yeah, the thing from Fantastic Four. Clobbering time. The lunch guy. I need to bring that back. So what do we think here? What do you think?
Starting point is 03:00:34 You think Till? Till, 100%. 4-1. Till. 4-1. Close decision. I think Till split. Someone's going to give it to Wonderboy, but Till's going to win.
Starting point is 03:00:43 Some rebel. Some rebel who wants to die in Liverpool. I want to go out on my shield. Will they set that place on fire if they do give it to Wonderboy? Liverpool goes hard in the paint. You know there's some hooligans there. Yeah, it's going to be a tough
Starting point is 03:00:58 exit strategy. No way Wonderboy wins that. Is that Adele Bird or whatever the fuck her name? Is she in there? Adelaide Bird. Adelaide Bird. They don't fly her out there. You never know.
Starting point is 03:01:09 She's everywhere, fucker. Does she go everywhere? Yeah, she like gives lessons on judging and stuff. You don't think they put her in there for a reason? You know, because she don't give a fuck. So you think they do it on purpose?
Starting point is 03:01:20 I think they want people to get used to fucked up decisions we're used to it it's working I think they want that because if they ever needed to pull something out like something was like dude this motherfucker has to win you know people are like oh it is Vegas
Starting point is 03:01:38 it's Vegas boxing is corrupt as shit but with MMA I just think they don't know what they're looking at they don't understand either they're looking at They don't understand They're not as correct They just don't know Either way It serves the same purpose
Starting point is 03:01:48 Here we go Here we go Jamie can you give us some volume Here we go It's a split It's a split Bruce Buffer would be a killer Strip club DJ
Starting point is 03:01:57 Unanimous Unanimous Holy shit Wow 49-47. Ooh, unanimous. By unanimous decision, Darren. Holy shit. Wow. Boy, he didn't even need that knockdown. That's a big fight for him. What were some of those scores?
Starting point is 03:02:15 I couldn't hear it. 49-47, 48-47. I've got to take a piss. 49-46, 49-46, 48-47. Well, that's a big victory for him. That's for sure. You wanted Wonderboy. I think you said something bad.
Starting point is 03:02:41 I think you used some potty language there. What do you think? I mean... I think you said something bad. I think you used some potty language there. What do you think? I mean... I'm an aggressive fighter.
Starting point is 03:02:58 They have such a specific way of talking. I feel like it's so much cooler when they talk like this as a fighter. Yeah. It's pretty cool. 13. God, him and Conor sound similar, right? Not really. Really? I'd have to hear him.
Starting point is 03:03:28 You'd have to hear him. What is he saying? What are they saying? Boy, fucking censorship. You know, let me hear the potty language. He said, everyone, anyone, I don't care. Anyone. No one.
Starting point is 03:03:51 You have people asking me. You might deserve a tire shot after this. God damn with the censorship. ESPN, please let these guys swear. Please. Come on. They're not going to let it. No way. It's going to be worse. Disney owns ESPN, please let these guys swear. Please. Come on. They're not going to let it. No way.
Starting point is 03:04:07 It's going to be worse. Disney owns ESPN. Ooh, that's true. Good call. It's going to be worse. They might not even let me do commentary over there. Have you guys seen Solo? I was going to talk to you about that.
Starting point is 03:04:16 You out. Disney took over Star Wars, right? Yeah. Have you seen Solo? No. Dude, I lasted literally six minutes and I walked out. Is that bad? Why? Yes. No, I lasted literally six minutes and I walked out. Is that bad? What?
Starting point is 03:04:25 Yes. No, six minutes? Give it a shot, bro. No, the reason why I walked out, I realized what it is about Star Wars. Star Wars lovers? It's in the chase scenes, they use the classic Star Wars movies, music. Yeah. Like that music is just so Indiana Jones, campy, corny.
Starting point is 03:04:43 Right. I couldn't stand it man I couldn't I walked the fuck out and I was ready dude I had fucking candy I was ready dude I was ready
Starting point is 03:04:51 I had candy I had one of those those chicken baguettes with the barbecue watermelon sauce barbecue watermelon sauce on chicken and you still walked
Starting point is 03:05:01 as soon as I was done I killed it before I was done with that before the movie even started, the chicken watermelon barbecue. Which did you go with? By myself.
Starting point is 03:05:10 You went to see it by yourself? That's an interesting move. By myself. Where were you? At the Arclight in Sherman Oaks. Really? Yeah. You showed up by yourself?
Starting point is 03:05:18 My wife took my son to some birthday party thing and they were going to be gone for a couple hours and I just said, you know what? I'm going to go to, thing, and they were going to be gone for a couple hours. And I just said, you know what? I like the idea of going to movies. It's just that they all suck. But I like going.
Starting point is 03:05:32 I like buying some candy. Buy your solo, though. It doesn't matter. I go to movies by myself all the time. Do you really? I did. Not so much since I had a kid, but back in the day, I would go all the time by myself. I did not so much since I had a kid,
Starting point is 03:05:43 but back in the day, I would go all the time by myself. I think I've only been maybe three times, not even in my life, by myself. I saw you in Trove. Only because I want to be able to leave. If I go with someone else, and I got to fucking stay,
Starting point is 03:05:56 because nobody likes leaving movies. Oh, no, you can't talk them into it. I like, no, most people don't like leaving. Most people, they get, so I got to fucking sit there for the whole stupid movie. Six minutes long? I like the freedom to leave. Because as soon as I don't give a shit about the movie, I'm out.
Starting point is 03:06:10 I heard Deadpool 2 is amazing. That was good. I stayed for that. I saw that by myself, too. That was good. Deadpool 2 is great. That's an interesting move by yourself, Bill. Really?
Starting point is 03:06:18 I appreciate that. Yeah, I've never. I just need the freedom to leave. That's really what that's about. Dude, that welterweight division is pure fire right now. Yeah, no kidding, right? Pure fucking fire. I think of all the young guys out of Colby Covington, Usman, and then Darren Till.
Starting point is 03:06:38 Till, if I had to bet on one of them being the world champion, it'd be Till. You think so? Yeah, out of all those three guys. He's a dangerous motherfucker, that's for sure. If you trade him with that guy, the thing that Wonderboy did that was so interesting is he's just never there. He's just never there.
Starting point is 03:06:52 And it made it a hard fight for Till to keep his composure and fight five hard rounds and constantly be chasing him, and Wonderboy's never there. And Wonderboy tagged him a couple times, but Till was the one that landed the big haymaker. But you also see Till under control, experienced, still stuck to his technique. He's going to be tough to beat, man.
Starting point is 03:07:10 Now, I'd like to see him against a guy who has high-level wrestling, like Colby Compton or Woodley, or even Usman, super high-level wrestler. I'd like to see that, where it's not an ideal matchup for him, see how he performs. Because Cowboy and Wonderboy are strikers, so it's wheelhouse. Let me see RDA, Usman, or Colby Compton. Yeah, I would him to see how he performs. Because Cowboy and Wonderboy are strikers, so it's wheelhouse.
Starting point is 03:07:26 Let me see RDA, Usman, or Colby Compton. Yeah, I would like to see him versus Colby. I think Colby's a really interesting fight. That's a good question. Purple. He's a purple? I'm pretty sure he's a purple. He's been doing it for a while. But, see, I don't think you do Colby versus... I don't think you kill off the young
Starting point is 03:07:42 lines yet. I think you let the young lines go after the Robbie Lawlers the Cowboys the RDAs but do you think they do it that way do they think that way or do they just try to make
Starting point is 03:07:50 the best fights they can make the UFC yeah how's the UFC saying oh just what do you like you know I think it's just
Starting point is 03:07:55 whatever the fuck works because this fight doesn't make too much sense for Wonderboy right but it's a fun fight for us to watch yeah
Starting point is 03:08:01 very fun fight to watch man this is a clubbing puncher boom yeah a lot of power yeah he's got power he's a fun fight for us to watch. Yeah, very fun fight to watch. Man, this is a clubbing puncher. Boom! Yeah. A lot of power. Yeah, he's got power. He's a big fella. I mean, if they wanted him to have to weigh 188,
Starting point is 03:08:13 they know that he's probably well, well north of that. Probably coming in well north of 200. See, but missing the weight, we don't make a big enough deal of it. I don't really care either, but it is a problem, a problem man it's a huge problem it's such an advantage but like with mackenzie duran after she missed it i didn't care i'm like all right do your thing girl but she missed it by seven fucking pounds man that's so big that means it doesn't drain her i know when she goes to fight it's a huge advantage yeah she to fight. She's not drained out huge dude that Mackenzie Dern fight Holy shit, that was like some UFC to type shit. She took that chick down mounted her
Starting point is 03:08:52 No, she was like it was like that. It was like a hoist versus uh that that Dutch kickboxer with the pants Striking was the impressive thing. She landed that huge overhand. She does that in all her fights. She's not afraid to throw down. I'm a fan, man. She's got giant balls. Her ground game is so hard. She went right through that.
Starting point is 03:09:15 It looked like that chick never trained. She looked too thick, though. You didn't like it? I liked thick, but then there's like, damn, girl, we need a little pride here. I think it's the way she's dressed. If she was in a miniskirt with a halter top. Oh, don't get it twisted. I'm on board, whatever she's wearing.
Starting point is 03:09:31 I'm just saying that. Like, the love handles are spilling over the top. I'm like, all right, now. Sometimes I like that. The UFC kit's a little thick. Sometimes I like that. Yeah, I'm not mad at it, but she's looked better. It all depends on how much ass goes with the package.
Starting point is 03:09:43 You're right. The front to back ratio. See, this is why we can't be on ESPN or Fox. Fire me. Good. Fire me, I dare you. He's not even saying that. Just make me do the
Starting point is 03:09:57 pay-per-views. I'm fine with that. That's all you do anyway. I do the previews. I do the prelims. I wonder how that's going tos. I do the prelims. Well, yeah, I wonder how that's going to go. Well, I guess the contract comes over. Does everyone, like the UFC Tonight crew, everyone just folds over? Well, my contract is with the UFC, and I was never working for Fox. I didn't do the Fox.
Starting point is 03:10:16 It was one of the stipulations. But you did before. Yeah, but one of the stipulations of my newer contract is I don't want to do the Fox events anymore. And that deals through when? It's already done. It's already done. I mean, this year, I don't want to do the Fox events anymore. And that deals through when? It's already done. It's already done. I mean, it was like this year I don't do any of the Fox events.
Starting point is 03:10:29 If you notice like when there are big fights on Fox I don't do any of them. Not even the big ones? Nope. None of them. Zero. He just does pay-per-views.
Starting point is 03:10:36 Stop doing it. Don't want to do it anymore. Is there too much work? Too much work. Too much traveling. This suit is not a big deal because they have the suit there for me. But my issue
Starting point is 03:10:45 was uh fox actually paid me less money less money to do the events on fox so i was like you guys never paying you yeah i thought the ufc paid you no i get the fox event it's a fox event so um that but it was also i didn't like when i first started doing it for them they got in my ear like the very first events for fox they were like telling me what to do. They were like telling me to take it down a notch. Don't be so amped up about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, what are we doing here?
Starting point is 03:11:15 I go, listen, I do commentary. This is what I do. I've been doing it for every – this is how I do it. If you think you can change me, then we're not going to work together. I'm like, we had a real problem. And that was a Fox production, right, Joe? Yes, it was a Fox production. Was that the Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez?
Starting point is 03:11:31 That was the pond. Yeah, I believe that was the first one. Yeah, but it's just, I just didn't like it. They want a sports guy. Look, MMA is what it is. It's fighting. It is a very specific kind of sport. And I've been doing it the way I do it forever. If you don't like the way I do it. It's fighting. It is a very specific kind of sport. And I've been doing it the way I do it forever.
Starting point is 03:11:47 If you don't like the way I do it, that's fine. Don't hire me. But don't try to get me to become some sports guy. I'm not interested in that at all. When I commentated for Pride, they told me I said nice too much. I said, no, say nice. They're like, no. They couldn't even speak English.
Starting point is 03:12:03 They thought I said nice a lot. I say, nice shot. Nice job to their credit. They stopped. They stopped doing it after the first event. When I voiced my displeasure, I just let them know like really clearly,
Starting point is 03:12:15 this is, we're not going to do in this. I'm not going to change how I do it to make you do this. I'm helping you. It's not even that. It's just like, if you don't like the way I do it, this,
Starting point is 03:12:24 it's not an option for you to direct me and tell me to do it the way you like it because you think that that's better. This is a personal choice by one or two, whoever the fuck the people were, that were producers or executives. I don't agree with them, and I'm not doing it that way. Like this is just how – it's like real simple like if you bought a ferrari and it had a certain sound to it you're like man i don't like this sound can you guys go back to the factory and fix these mufflers they'd be like what are you high yeah like this is what a ferrari is like this is you don't like it then you like ferraris no no i like a ferrari but i want it to sound like a corolla doesn't work like like no no you Probably a bad analogy But the idea behind it
Starting point is 03:13:05 You get I'm not This is what I do Like I get amped up If some shit is going down These guys are Throwing blows And I'm screaming
Starting point is 03:13:13 It's because I feel that way Some would call it passion Yeah Well it's legitimate passion I'm not I'm not faking it But they didn't want that But they let it go after a while
Starting point is 03:13:23 But it's not like they fought for me when I quit either. How long is the Reebok deal for? Another three years, I think. Another three years? Two to three years. I wonder if it worked out for Reebok. Like, is Reebok exploding now because of this? Well, Adidas owns Reebok, so Adidas is killing it.
Starting point is 03:13:41 But I don't know if Reebok's exploding. They're in their niche, right? They're MMA. They're in with CrossFit. So they're in that world. And to Reebok's defense, you know, they made the offer. They don't know. They didn't know what the deal was.
Starting point is 03:13:55 They didn't know they were screwing over fighters. It's more of a UFC thing. It was not Reebok. Reebok's like, whoa, the fuck? It seemed like even the UFC wasn't aware of how much fighters were actually making off of sponsorships. I mean, you and I know that there was some debate as to whether or not. I mean, they had a distorted perception of how much some fighters were making. I don't think they cared. I think they talked to maybe the top ten guys and were like, hey, we're going to pay you this.
Starting point is 03:14:21 We'll take care of you in this way. And then the rest of the guys get on board. But, again, I're going to pay you this. We'll take care of you in this way. And then the rest of the guys get on board. But again, I get it, man. If I'm Dana White, I'm not making decisions based off those 10 to 15 top guys. I'm making my decisions that's going to affect my bottom line, which is what they did. One judge in the Jason Knight fight gave every round of Jason Knight. So one judge did look at it like you, like he was on his back and he did get taken down,
Starting point is 03:14:46 but he was the one that was aggressive on the ground. Yeah, I agree with that. I don't think you just take a guy down and have one thing you do and then be in control. Yeah, it's just being educated. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:57 I gotta get out of here soon, boys. Let's wrap this motherfucker up. Eddie Bravo, tell everybody you're at Tinfoil Hat Comedy at Cobb's. Yeah, this Friday at Cobb's in San Francisco, Saturday in Sacramento. Punchline. What are you doing? Punchline.
Starting point is 03:15:11 Punchline, Sacramento? Love that place. And then I'm at the Ice House on the 15th, June 15th, up at the Ice House, one show only. And then I'm in Houston, Houston Improv, the 22nd, 23rd, June 22nd, 23rd. You can get your tickets at livenation.com tfatk.com alright we love you guys
Starting point is 03:15:29 bye awesome that went by so

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