The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 29, 2016

Episode Date: May 30, 2016

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub, Bryan Callen, and Eddie Bravo to watch the fights on May 29, 2016.

Five, four, three, two... Oh shit, we're back! God damn! My all-time favorite kind of podcast, Fight Companions. Eddie motherfuckin' Bravo's in the house. Thank you for having me. Brendan motherfuckin' Kid Keto shop. He's got a Kid Keto t-shirt on.

I told the dude to make a Kid Keto t-shirt, he fuckin' jumps on that shit. This motherfucker is an entrepreneur. The keto kids though? What is that? Ketogenic ketosis. The diet? Yeah. Are you on the diet too?

Oh yeah, I've been on it for a while. Before him? No, no, no. He got me on it. I'm obsessed with it. Last night I was in Phoenix walking by a restaurant. This girl, maybe 18, goes, Shab, I'm a keto kid.

I'm a keto kid. I'm a keto kid. I'm with a bunch of older dudes, boxing dudes. They're like, what the fuck is she talking about? That's hilarious. That's so funny, man. I just saw that documentary, Sugar Coated. Oh, my God. Have you seen it?

It's terrifying. Holy shit. There's another one called That Sugar Movie. Yeah. Have you seen That Sugar Movie? Yeah. Jesus. Jesus fucking Christ.

Sugar's terrible. I'm Mr. Conspiracy Theory here. I had no idea it was right in front of my fucking face. Yeah, we've seen that sugar movie. Yeah, Jesus Jesus fucking Christ sugar's terrible mister conspiracy theory here I had no idea it was right in front of my fucking face. Well, it's not everyone's it's on everyone's table Yeah, that's not a conspiracy. Yes, man. It's a drug. Yes, and people are addicted to it. It's in everything No, but what I'm talking about is there was a conspiracy to pay off Harvard scientists and professors Oh, here we go to keep sugar according to that movie unless that movies movie's bullshit. No, no, I'm sure it was. This is what the movie's talking about. The movie's talking about the sugar association.

They didn't want it to be labeled for what it really was, an addictive toxin. They wanted to keep it. It ain't that bad in moderation. It ain't that bad. It makes things taste sweet. It's about love.

So they paid, according to this documentary, they paid off hard, because everyone's like, I'm science. I'm science this. I's about love. They paid, according to this documentary, they paid off hard because everyone's like, I'm science. I'm science this. I'm science that. It's beautiful when people do that because then all you do is buy off all the scientists and you got everybody. I love some sugar though, man. Everybody loves

sugar. That's the thing about it. It tastes awesome. It's not a drug that works because the effects aren't pleasurable. Sugar is very pleasurable. It also has its benefits too. Post-workout, stuff like that. Certain athletes need that stuff, so it's different than a lot of other drugs. Well, there's arguments against that.

There's arguments against that. I'd say there's more for it. I don't know about that. You've got to see sugar-coated because the conspiracy, Brendan, is about that, exactly. I always thought when people asked me about sugar, yeah, it's bad for you, but as long as you don't get too crazy with it, and you don't have nothing to worry about. You're not fat. Only fat people have something

to worry about. But according to this documentary, people that are in shape are getting adult onset diabetes because they think that apparently, according to this doc, one Coke a day increases your chances for diabetes by 30%.

If that shit's true. That's a lot of Coke. God damn. Yeah, one Coke a day is some insane amount of sugar. 50 grams of sugar. 40. You're only supposed to have 25 in a day. Grams of sugar?

Yeah, that's including fruit, lactose. You're only supposed to get sugar In no more than 25 grams a day What if you got fat noise? Virtually nobody deals with fat noise As a kid I was balls deep 200 grams a day at least That's what it's about Let me bring it back to the post-workout shit

Because Mark Sisson was talking about actual gains That your body has more gains if you wait up to an hour After working out Before you supplement Before you take anything And he said that there's a reaction you wait up to an hour after working out before you supplement, before you take anything, before you're taking any food. And I started doing it.

And he said that there's like a reaction that your body has where it produces more hormones because your body's just had like this brutal workout and your body hasn't had a replenishment. So because it hasn't had a replenishment, I guess, during that time period, if you replenish, I think the science is, or according to him, I mean, I don't know what studies he's based on. He's a smart dude, though. He's a very smart dude. I'll take his word. Yeah, that it's better to do it that way.

You get more results hormonally than you do if you immediately glycogen load. Because otherwise your body stops doing what it's going to do, right? Because like, oh, we're good. Yeah, it slows it down. It slows it. But, you know, it's so hard to, how the fuck do you know exactly how someone got their gains? You know, you're talking about athletes, right? So you're talking about people who all work out hard.

Genetic freaks. There's some of them are genetic freaks. And, you know, most people are on slightly varied diets and slightly varied sleep schedules. So it's super hard to say, like, if a guy didn't do it that way, how much of a gain he would make. It's tough to calculate. I had some silly bitch tell me forever to drink chocolate milk. Remember that was the craze?

That's supposed to be the craze for a long time. That was supposed to be the craze. It's a good excuse to drink chocolate milk. Hell yeah, it was. Hell yeah, it was. Some Nestle Quick. So the fight that's about to start, Bruce Buffer looking slick as always, is Josh Berkman

versus Paul Felder. This is a fucking amazing fight. Great fight. First of all, Josh Berkman has fought as high as 205. Josh Berkman fought Jeremy Horn one day, and Jeremy Horn choked him out and spit on him. That's aggressive. Oh my God. They must have said some really dark shit to each other before that fight.

That's aggressive. But Josh Berkman is a bad motherfucker, dude. And at 155, he's so goddamn strong. If he can do it and do it successfully, he's a bully at this weight. He's just a tough, tough motherfucker. And he's slick. But this Paul Felder kid can crack a whack. He has more tools, I feel like.

Felder has more tools, I think. Standing, he does. But Berkman is down, dude. That guy wins bombs. Berkman's more game, but I feel like the game, it's evolving fast, and Felder's more evolved, if that makes sense. And younger, and less miles. Well, what I like about this, less miles for sure, but what I like about this fight is it's essentially an old, real, fucking crafty veteran in Berkman who's a dog I mean he's a fucking bulldog game as they come game as they come and yeah fuck yeah man he shut Hector Lombard

down at one point Lombard was unjuiced yeah and Lombard was juiced up and you know Lombard kept swinging at him and Berkman kept moon but Berkman was cracking him a little yeah and it got Lombard to a point where Lombard slowed down his his attack because he kind of knew that he wasn't gonna take Berkman was cracking him a little. And it got Lombard to a point where Lombard slowed down his attack because he kind of knew that he wasn't going to take Berkman out. He was going to have to do the long haul. I got Feldman and TKO second round. Do we have to sync?

Man. Yeah, it's 450 right now. 448, 447. First round, Paul Felder, Josh Berkman. A fight that I've been really looking to fight. I feel like this whole card is totally under the radar. I mean, Hennon Barat was fighting Jeremy Stevens in the fucking, the co-main.

It's insane. That's the co-main. I think it's more, you know, there's no, like, for the average fan, there's no huge draws, but as far as Joe Silva and those, and Joe Silva, who's the other dude who does the matchups? Sean Shelby? Bro, they got their money's worth. You know what I'm saying? Like, they paid them exactly what they should do does the matchups? Sean Shelby. Bro, they got their money's worth.

You know what I'm saying? They paid them exactly what they should do because these matchups, these aren't matchups that you can go, all right, five versus six, two versus three. They're amazing. To me, it's the best card of the year. I'm pretty sure Sean handles the matchups for the lighter weight fighters. Correct. And then, I don't know what weight Silva takes over, but both of them are doing a fucking

awesome job. This card shows it, though. This card shows it. You look at it, you're like, Jesus Christ. Most of the matchups I wouldn't think about. They just went shin to shin. Let's pay attention to this. Best card of the year, though?

No, no, no. It's a really good card. I'm saying best as far as matchup-wise, it's an amazing card. It's a really good card. It's way, way better than people are giving it credit for. If this was the first UFC I ever saw, I'd be like, holy shit, what a nutty sport. I would call this UFC just fucking watch. Just straight up just watch it, man.

I know you don't know the guys, but this is going to be a great night of fights. And if you're betting, it's going to be tough to pick, man. For experts, try picking this card. I'd like to see someone just go whatever, eight for eight. It's going to be a beast. Yeah, you know what, man? This is a sneaky fight. Ooh, nice front kick to the body by Felder.

And Josh returns it. Felder's got a lot of tools when it comes to stand-up. He's real sneaky. He does a lot of weird shit. Like Cowboy, man, training at the ranch. Real similar. Real similar in some ways. But also because he's got a taekwondo background

He throws more spinning shit than cowboy does cowboys like straight Muay Thai These straight forward Felder has good a couple of times man a lot of checking good good defensive skills here Felder's a fucking attacker to man He's tough as shit. Berkman went to Bellator before, remember? Because he got cut. He went to World Series of Fighting and he choked out John Fitch. Remember that fight? Yes, I do.

That was a huge fight. Yeah, he choked out Fitch real quick. Fitch shot in for a single. Was that the fight when Fitch tested positive? No, that was the Paul Harris fight. Boom. Paul Harris got that knee. He got him too. Paul Harris'. Boom. Paul Harris got that knee. He got him, too.

Paul Harris' fucking leg locks. I mean, maybe Fitch was like, fuck it, I know this guy's on it. Yeah, understandable. Who knows? Did you see Paul Harris get wrecked? Yeah, I did. He got murked.

He got wrecked by who? He got wrecked by some Viking. Dude, fuck them up. Someone named Meek? In what show? Like 50 seconds? I don't even know the name of the show, dude. It was the show where Mayhem

weighed in 20-something pounds overweight. He got burnt, too. He got submitted. Yeah, I think that's a fatigue thing. I think it's more he just doesn't want to be there. It's like self-sabotage, need the money. Mayhem's ground game is so legit. Super legit. It would be real hard to tap that guy, for real. For Reese Overdue and Black Belt?

Yeah. I've rolled with him a bunch. He's a monster. Yeah. Jason's no joke. Remember when uh jason uh fought jake shields and had his back and had a fully locked in rear naked choke and the fucking bell rang yeah i mean he had uh i believe he had a gable grip but he had it under the chin and everything it was a tight tight squeeze oh shit they're going to war holy shit burkeman with Berkman. Berkman with some good movement here. See, but this is what Berkman wants. Feldman needs to not do this. He's more technical. Boom.

Berkman gets him on his back. Oh, Feldman's in a bad place here. Because on the ground, Berkman's a beast. Yes. Super fucking strong. Again, you got to think about Berkman has fought successfully at 170 and all the way up to like 205. Well, he has that old man strength, too.

Yes. He just tossed his young ass. He's just a guy who's been around a long fucking time. He's a smart dude, too. Yeah, and that Hector Lombard fight shows you how smart he is. He's never really in the pocket. He just avoids all his counters. He doesn't lose his shit.

No, like the fire will be hot as fuck, and he sits in there and doesn't lose control, man. Exactly. He can do what he can do, and he's not gonna fall short Psychological stays in his lane, too. He doesn't try anything too crazy You know, I see a freaking stupid Chris Weidman bullshit spinning kick or something like that Yeah, we never saw that from Weidman here. He did. Well, let's not see it ever again. That's crazy crazy It cost you the fight son. Yeah, the art of getting back up is I mean mean it's so deep it's the fence crawl some guys

are really good at it some guys are okay you know who's the best i've ever seen who keith jardine really oh my god he's jardine's a goddamn animal dude he would always go go straight to the cage and walk go walk he was such a beast go straight to the cage and why wherever you were you had to get to the cage that was his thing and then so i started doing that people like no what are you doing the guy's gonna pound your face and but that was keith's thing really so he was one of the first guys to figure out to use the cage to get up he that was his thing as soon as you get taken down if the guy had your hips you were scooting to get to the cage to use it to crawl up and he was so fucking good at it man none of us could hold him down interesting yeah keith jardine is a guy who doesn't get the credit he deserves in a lot of ways.

That fight with Chuck. Remember that fight with Chuck? What a fight. Lit that leg up, man. Yeah. Keith was real smart with the application of leg kicks, and he hit him with that big right hand. He was so awkward, man.

Yeah. This whole orangutan, jiggy hands. So awkward. Freddie Roach, orangutan style. Boom. Berkman cracked him here. Look at this. Sidekick to the thigh. Boom. So awkward. Freddie Roach, orangutan style. Boom. Berkman cracked him here. Look at this. Sidekick to the thigh.

Boom. Straight left. Lunging sidekick. Yeah, he's doing that. A lot of guys are doing that to the legs now. Dangerous, man. John Jones loves doing that. Dangerous.

You mean for someone's knee? Yes. Look, you see, Berkman's winning these exchanges. It's more dangerous. I'd rather have someone do that to my knee than someone shin kick me in the head. Definitely. What's more dangerous than that? I agree 100%.

Totally good point. Neither's good. Yeah, but the idea is that we're used to being able to tap from knee injuries. So, you know, because of like a knee bar. It's a strike. So when people look at a strike to a knee, we go, oh, that's not fair because you can't tap. But, Eddie, you made the perfect point. That's the perfect point. It's a fight. Yeah, because if you kick somebody in the head, it's fucking way worse. We go, oh, that's not fair because you can't tap. But, Eddie, you made the perfect point. That's the perfect point.

It's a fight. Yeah, because if you kick somebody in the head, it's fucking way worse. You can't tap to that either. So let's just go over this. So if you knock me out by a head kick, I'm, what, suspended six months? You kick me in that front knee and you blow my ACL, MCL, I can't work for a year at least. And I probably won't come back. Let's be totally honest.

How often does that happen? If you get head kicked. I've never heard of that ever happening. I've never heard of it happening. It's like a. It's like a. It's just a new thing. Give it time.

It's always been legal. In the UFC? It's always been legal. No, no, no. It's been legal. But Jon Jones is really the first guy to start doing it actively. Oh. Felder just cracked him.

But show me the footage of guys getting kicked like that. Like the Jon Jones wing chunk. There's one fight. Legs breaking. There's one fight with Miguel Torres. Miguel Torres gets. He gets an oblique kicked on the knee. And this was in a legacy kickboxing fight, I think it was. It was pretty recent, like within two years.

And Miguel Torres' knee just went fucking sideways. It was nasty. And he screamed and fell down and got back up and kept fighting. I don't know how the fuck he did it. That's one guy that I thought for sure would still be at the top. Miguel? For how long? Well, this is what I was going to say. This is what I was going to say.

Knockouts, man. It's not just as simple as you get your ligament repaired, you do your rehab, and you're back nine months later. You might not ever be the same guy again. Talk about a knockout? Yeah, like a real knockout. Like a real knockout. But that's what you sign up for.

You expect concussions. Now, I don't expect to get my knee blown out in a fight. But it's a part of your body. Like if someone can attack your head, why shouldn't they be able to attack your knee? That seems crazy. Same reason the NFL. Same reason the NFL. Like you can't attack that low.

The NFL is a sport. Yeah, that's a sport. You're not trying to knock each other out anymore. The UFC is a sport. But this is a sport knock each other out anymore. The UFC is a sport. But it's a sport of fighting. With rules. Yeah, but the rules are already really brutal. The idea of taking out a rule of kicking the knee when you can kick a guy in the fucking jaw face.

But I can't kick him in the face if he has three points on the ground. So there are rules. So you can't say it's not a sport. Honestly, I don't agree with that either. I don't agree with that either. I don't agree with that either. I think you see where that UFC line is? See where the outside logo is? And there's the line, the inner octagon?

Yes. What I say is everything outside that inner octagon, you can't kick them in the face. Because it's too close to the cage. The only problem with kicking someone in the face when they're down is that the cage could prevent you from moving. And you get kicked with something that you couldn't normally have prevented. So there's an obstacle and that obstacle is sort of artificial. And since we can't have just an enormous

basketball-sized playing field, which is really ideal, the ideal way to do MMA is not to have any walls. There's something stupid about having walls. What we really should have is a large, like, football-sized arena. You can't have that. Put a guy in.

They say, why not? You have it for football. You put a guy. There's 22 guys on the field. But that's the only way you're not having this bullshit. See, there's nothing wrong with learning how to clinch and fight up against a cage. It's super important because you use a cage. But in reality, a real fight should not have anything to do with the wall you press you're

talking about a fight in a sport you have to have a structure bro no you you stay in bounds this is your boundaries you have a big ass you know let's give him a basketball court maybe you know terrible experience maybe but but you wouldn't have this shit you wouldn't have this pressing against the wall that's an art form it is an art form but it's an art form that's artificially created by an obstacle. This obstacle should not be there. You shouldn't be able to press people against it. But no, that shouldn't be a part

of fighting. So there's water everywhere, too. Should we bring trees in? God damn it, Joe! This is cozy! But in football, that's like saying, well, there should be no out-of-bounds. You guys just run. If you catch them, you can't catch them. No, no, no. Football has bounds.

They have plenty of room. Because you need structure as fuck. They have a large arena. But, oh! Oh, Felder just cracked him with a left hand. Remember I said second round, do you kill? I think fences are artificial. And I think they should fight in large, unenclosed areas.

And if you hate viewership and money, I want purity. I want no gloves. No more gloves. No more hand wraps. No wrist shapes. Start your own shit, Dave. Yeah, no more. This is nonsense.

These gloves are stupid. These gloves only exist for people to watch at home. You're on one today, brother. Only for people watching at home. If you're a real martial artist, you would not want gloves. Because gloves give you this artificial idea that you can hit someone as hard as you want with your hands without them exploding on you but you got

everything taped up and wrapped up underneath unless you're Gunnar Nelson that gangster ass motherfucker doesn't even wear wraps well he's just good I'm just gonna choke you anyway. He wants to grapple your ass. Punch you and choke you. He's like I like to feel my hands I could feel it better I feel to feel my hands. I can feel it better. I feel it in my hands. You're not getting on fucked with no gloves. Fuck you, no gloves. I was cage side when Feldman was getting hit

by Barbosa with those kicks. Felder, not Feldman. Yeah, I call him Feldman though. No gloves, no gloves, no gloves, no ring. No, I call him Feldman. The first thing he says is my name is Feldman. Brian Caldum, that's the first thing he said. He just walked in with a bottle of wine and some fucking goat cheese. And it's raw milk.

It's raw milk cheese, everyone. For good enzymes. Did you get it at Whole Foods? Fuck yes, I got it from Whole Foods. Of course you did, you son of a gun. I spent a lot of money, too. They were like, that much? I was like, that's right.

I have a successful podcast. And I'm friends with Eddie Bravo. They said you have that much. Powerful cheese. Anyway, no gloves. You're crazy. You don't wear shin pads. How come you don't wear shin pads if you have to wear gloves?

That's stupid. It impedes grappling. It keeps you from getting chokes. So do you want no gloves boxing too? No. If they want to do that, that's their nonsense. It's combat sports. It's a silly person's sport.

Silly. There's no kicks. You're out of line, man. You're crazy. You're out of line. You're out. You're crazy. I guarantee you.

I don't know what you smoked before this, but you're crazy. Would you make that? Listen, it's not a good way to do it. I mean, boxing is a wonderful sport. It's a wonderful sport to watch it. But as far as fighting, it's not a good way to do it like this is the only way to do it. This is fighting Okay So if we represent real fighting and this is what this represents this represents what happens when guys are allowed to do everything

When they'll have to do knees like that step in knee fell to just land that kick to the body fellow just landed See this is this is a real fight. This is what you do when you can do everything you do everything So I love boxing, but it's only a sport. This is fighting. So if this is real fighting, why are we wearing gloves? Why do we have wrist tapes and all that nonsense on?

I got a question for you. So somebody doesn't get cut? No, it's so you don't break your hands is easy. But you shouldn't be doing things that break your hands. Why don't we put nose protectors on because we want to headbutt each other with our faces?

You know, oh, my nose is getting broken too much every time I headbutt. Well, don't headbutt then. You'd have to figure out what actually does work. You have an artificial surface over your hands that protects your hands. As far as a purist and a pure fight, you're probably right. As far as a sport and growing it and getting kids to get involved in it, you have to have some sort of structure. I think one day they're going to figure it out.

They're going to have no gloves. We're going to look at this and they're going to say, this is silly. And guys get hit with a lot more shots than they should have. You're going to see more and more shit. You're going to see probably bigger gloves. You're going to see headgear or some shit. Oh, no, that would be worse. The science doesn't support that.

Just like football. But bigger gloves is actually no better. Worse, correct. That's why boxing is so bad. The science doesn't support it. And even headgear, they're thinking now, oh, we just tagged him with the right hand. Headgear does nothing. Headgear actually can give you a larger fulcrum point, apparently.

And it can spin your head around more. You know what I like about the gloves? Is that they can fucking punch full blast. That's true. And you don't cut your head like that. It's better for me to break them. But how come you can't tape up your shins? It's just like you could just hit them harder.

But why can't you tape up your insteps and your shins like they do in Muay Thai fights? They should. But then it's a—well, granted, you can say the gloves are a hindrance grappling, but if you have shin pads on, you're not going to move as well. Dude, you ever see some of those really good guys who do their shin and ankles? I was in Maurice's corner once. Maurice Smith? Maurice Smith, when he had a kickboxing fight.

And he's taping his ankles up and shit. When those guys do that, they make that thing almost like a cast. For sure. It's all protected in there. They layer it in there. Some dudes more than others. I mean, some guys don't wear shit. You see a lot of even the top guys in Glory and Lion Fight and those kind of guys.

They don't wear shit. I'm psyched that Bellator is going to have that kickboxing organization. Bellator kickboxing? Yeah, man. I think that's awesome, man. Dude, Felder with that beautiful combination. Look at that. That faking with the hands and the smoothness with that switch kick on the front leg

and the back leg kick. His Muay Thai is so pretty, man. Yeah, he's fun to watch. Yeah, he really is. He's been fucked on decisions a bunch. You know what, man? He's just fought real tough guys and had real tough fights. Close, too. Like razor close. But when people get

upset, hey man, that's just reality. That's where you stand. And you gotta get better. Like he looks right here. He looks better right here, right? Why'd you say he needs to go for a finish? No, man. He just needs to keep training and fighting and being Paul Felder. He's going to get better. Oh, look at that knee.

Dude, he's already getting better. Like, look at this fight. He's performing spectacularly in this fight. He's smooth. His timing looks excellent. And he's fighting a fucking animal. He's fighting an older guy, too, though, Joe. Fighting an animal, though.

He's fighting an animal. He's really good. Still, his performance isn't slacked. He might be older, but he doesn't look bad. Berkman hasn't looked tired or weak in a fight. Gentlemen, this is a 2010 boyac. Enjoy this. What's a boyac, Brian?

It's a boyac. It's a French boyac. Ooh, he just took his ass down. Look at this. Cheers, gentlemen. Cheers, my boys. Cheers. Thanks, buddy. We're back. Put your headphones on so we don't talk over each other. It's Gentlemen. Cheers, my boys. Cheers. Thanks, buddy. We're back. Put your headphones on. I'm doing that right now.

Talk over each other. It's a rule, ladies and gentlemen. We made rules for you guys. One of them is we try not to chew into the microphone. Because I know that is so annoying. Especially if you're at the gym and you have headphones on. And smacking. Yeah.

If you have headphones on, it's even more rude. Because it's like in someone's ear. That's a nice one, Brian Kill kellen so berkman's cut um he just landed a takedown we were talking and i didn't get a chance to see what the fuck happened but he's got a pretty nasty cut there's a lot of blood i can't see i think it's his nose man it might be his nose nice knee to the body. Felder needs to, yeah. It looks like the forehead, maybe more than one cut.

It looks like there's something coming out of his forehead. It looks like his nose, the bridge of his nose and his forehead. Does this kind of blood make the sport more popular or less popular? That's the question. It doesn't have an effect on it. Just like I don't think that sponsors had an effect on it either. I don't think anybody looked at it and goes, this shit is, how come they don't all have the same clothes on?

Nobody looked at it and said it needed a uniform. That's more of the UFC brass doing it for a corporate to try and be like everyone else. But it didn't matter. It doesn't matter. Blood doesn't matter. In pro wrestling, the more you bled, the more you got paid.

You got paid on blood. Felder on his back in the end of the round. Berkman's a fucking animal. That's twice in a row. Look at Berkman helps him up. He is a fucking stud. Yeah, he is. Man crush.

Yeah, you do love man crush. He's a beast. Fucking animal. I think he's probably 36, 37. Amazing. Let's find out. He's been through some wars, man. Oh, that's what it is.

That elbow did it on the bridge of the nose. Yeah. Boom. Oh, my God, that's beautiful. Hey, Vegas, let's get more fucking people there. Boom. Oh, my God, that's beautiful. Hey, Vegas, let's get more fucking people there, huh? Oh, my God, that's beautiful. And you know what? That's going to win them the fight, too.

That's beautiful. Because they're replaying it. Felder's so durable. When Barboza was kicking him in the side, and you could hear it like a gunshot, and he just didn't, he never stopped. You just wondered how somebody can take that kind of a beating in the fight. Well, let me tell you something. He hit Barboza with some good shots, too. Mm-hmm.

But Barboza's just so goddamn fast. He's too quick for him. And that was just one of his first jaunts into the higher echelons of MMA. And what's going to happen is Felder, as you see in this fight, I think he looked as good in this fight as he's ever looked. And he's going to continue to get better.

He looked good in those other fights, too. He did, but I think he looks even better now. I mean, he's a young kid. He's improving, and he's smart, and he works hard. And he's got Donald with him. I mean, having Cerrone as a training partner, that is so goddamn gigantic. When you've got a guy who, first of all, is an animal, he'll fucking fight anybody. If they call him up to fight Stipe Miocic, he'll go, what do I got to do?

He'll fucking ride a bull over to Stipe. It's that whole camp over there. He's an animal'll ride a bull he'll break a bull he's a legit wild man he's a total legit wild man and super successful as an mma fighter so for a guy like felder to have a guy like donald and have him be a colleague and the two guys be able to train with each other like that and work with each other god God, it's giant. You know, it's like those camps that have other great guys. Like, look at Cormier and Kane. A.K.A. Nothing Better. And then you look at Rockhold.

Rockhold, yeah. And then Habib Nurmagomedov. What the fuck? You look at these fucking animals. The kid, the K-1 champion's there now. Trying for MMA. What's his name? Oh, Rico Verhoeven?

Yeah, he's at AK. Oh my God. Working takedown defense. He's the best at all of them. Good luck with that. Oh my God. Is Yoramero over? Good luck beating him.

Well, he won with ground and pound his first MMA fight. I know. But he is a fucking athlete. Dude. He might be the best heavyweight striking athlete in combat sports.

He's ripped too big. Yeah. He's just like 240, solid Viking genetics. Yeah, I'm going to need you pissing this cup before we do anything. Oh, well, it's going to melt. Let's go ahead and piss in this cup before we sign you up for the UFC. That cup's going to melt. Go ahead and piss in this cup.

Those Holland guys don't give a fuck. Go ahead and piss in this cup, bro. Those Holland guys don't mind taking steroids. Is Yodomero... Hey, that's an accusation. No, it's not. Those Holland guys don't mind taking steroids. Is Yodomero... Hey, that's an accusation. No, it's not. They drink a lot of raw milk. And horse meat, right?

There's not a single person who's more of a fan of Dutch Muay Thai fighters than me. Like Ramon Deckers. Oh, the best. Oh, come on, man. Rob Kamen. Ernesto Hoost. So the greatest combat sports athletes of all time were Dutch kickboxers. There's so many animals. I guess Melvin Manhoof got robbed in Bellator.

I didn't watch the fight, but, dude, people were calling me up saying, do you see that shit? Yeah, people were furious. Apparently even Scott Coker was pissed. And Manhoof, he's another one, man. Jesus Christ, is he terrifying. He's scary. And he's a regular training partner, Badr Hari.

He's another fucking psychopath. Literally psycho. Literally psycho. You don't want to fuck with that guy. God damn, he's good. When he knocked out Overeem. Yeah. And Overeem knocked him out, too, though.

They had that horrible grudge match. It was the best. Those were the days. The best rematch with him, with Badr, is Stefan Leko. Oh, yeah. Because he fought Stefan Leko. And Stefan Leko knocked him out with Botter, is Stefan Leko. Oh, yeah. Because he fought Stefan Leko, and Stefan Leko knocked him out with a spinning back kick to the body. So he came back and knocked Leko out in the next fight with a spinning back kick to the head. He got him with the same kick.

And he was meaner, almost like a turning sidekick. He was real skinny Botter Hari back then. He wasn't Jack Botter Hari as he got older and got involved with Mexican supplements. He got mean, too. Now that I'm a little more educated on the steroid use, alleged steroid use, when I go back and watch a lot of these guys fight in MMA, I go, oh, you're an absolute giant, and there's zero reason you should be that bulky. And no body fat, and somehow or another can go on forever.

Huh, how interesting. Maurice Smith fought Kevin Randleman, rest in peace, who was a great guy. Kevin Randleman really truly was a great guy. And he was one of those guys that was probably like one of the freakiest freak athletes that's ever fought in combat sports. Most say the best athlete to ever compete in the UFC. Pretty close. A lot of guys say that.

He looked like a better looking Mike Tyson, like a prettier Mike Tyson. He was a tank when he was in his prime. Look at that. He was a fucking tank. He looked like that silverback we were looking at earlier. Plucked eyebrows. I promise you plucked eyebrows. 100% plucked eyebrows. Let's not get weird.

And dyed hair. He's a beautiful man. He's a black guy with blonde hair, dude. He's a beautiful man. He's a beautiful human being. Where was I going with that? Oh, he fought Maurice Smith. And after the fight, Maurice said, okay, freak of science or freak of nature?

What is it? That was what Maurice called me out. That's great. What do you think? And I said, man, there's really no way to tell. There's Maurice in Roundabout. It's tough to tell. He said the guy never got tired.

He said he never got tired. That's Maurice in Roundabout. It's tough to tell. He said the guy never got tired. That's a difference. He was in college at Ohio State. He was a freak, too. There's legendary stories. So it's easy. You could say has he tried them in his life? Maybe. But that's not why he's such a freak. I don't like when people discredit guys like that. He's a fucking animal. Nobody's discrediting him, but when you look at

how muscular he is now that you know a little bit, he definitely had to have been outside. There's pictures of him in high school jack yeah like he's just he's a free brock lesnar was that way he was in high school he looked like a freak there's there's definitely freaks yeah i'm not saying that you know there's not a chance they dabble in the old mexican supplements but this thing is a guy like random and you have to have two things to look like that. You couldn't take a guy like... Brian Callen. I was going to say somebody else.

I'm not even on that. I'm not even on that. Like half? You're talking about like a shitty body? Let's be honest. We took you. Yeah. Okay?

There's no way you're going to look like that. There's no supplements on earth that can do that. You have to have the frame. His frame is insane. Look at him there. There he is in high school. He's a stud. That's college.

Is that college? But look at him in college. He's ridiculously muscular. Stud wrestler. Yeah. I mean, just a really powerful athlete. And there's guys that are just more mesomorphic than other guys. They're out there, man.

Mike Tyson was not taking steroids, I don't think. No, he was not. Fuck you. No, he was not. Fuck you. You think he was? You think he was when he was like 14, 15, 16 years old?. No, he was not. Fuck you. No, he was not. Fuck you. You think he was? You think he was when he was like 14, 15, 16 years old? Gentlemen.

When he was 19? Hold on. When he was 16 years old. Maybe not 16. And looking the same. Yeah. And knocking dudes into a coma. Yeah.

Looking like a grown man. Yeah. Mike Tyson was a freak of nature. No, no. I'm with you. I'm not discrediting that. Watch him versus Evander Holyfield. It's like, all right, what are we doing here, fellas?

Like, Evander Holyfield could have got first in Mr. Olympia. Oh, of course. And Tyson was obviously on some shit, too. Well, why do you think he was on some shit? He was willing to do everything else. He had no problem with any other drug. Right. You know what I mean? You don't rape bitches and not take steroids. It's not like... Too far. Crack

is okay. No, no, no. I wouldn't think about it for health. I would think about it for... As a matter of fact, there's apparently very little evidence that with all the steroid use that people do, all the crazy bodybuilders, not that many are dying. That's true. If you watch Bigger, Stronger, Faster, WWE is dealing with painkillers. You know that and I know that. Painkillers and steroid use.

Yeah, steroid use, sure, but it's the painkillers that are killing everybody. My boy Chris Benoit was like, huh? He was on some shit. Well, that guy also had some serious CTE, probably. All those dudes that are slamming each other and hitting each other with chairs and shit. What about all the time bodybuilders? They're still alive. They are, aren't they?

Most of them are still alive. And some of them were really abusive. Like, definitely their endocrine system is shut down. Definitely they have to take hormone replacement therapy. But that's available. You can do that. But you look at them, though, and you're not looking at, like, old boxers or old, like, you go to, like, Muhammad Ali's era, which is the same, I guess, maybe, you know, he

predated Schwarzenegger by a little bit, like 10 years or so, maybe more. More. More. More. When he, when Schwarzenegger first burst onto the scene So if you if you look at so Ali and you look at Obviously he's in a bad bad place right but you look at Joe Frazier before he died And you look at a lot of those older boxers from that era. They're fucked. They're fucked, but the older bodybuilders

There's a lot of them that are still around arnold doing physically he's fine he's killing me he had a heart surgery yeah but he's fine and that was a valve issue but yeah they said that was something that he was valve heart they said that was something that he was born with right that it was a a condition yeah there's there's no evidence that steroids and testosterone is terrible for you like we thought right because it started with lila zato remember that he's like i have this cancer this brain tumor because i took steroids that steroids and testosterone is terrible for you. Like we thought, right? Because it started with Lyle Azado. Remember that? He's like, oh, I have this cancer, this brain tumor, because I took steroids.

But there's no scientific research to back that up. The problem is some people just get brain tumors. So you've got to wonder, like, how come everybody's not getting a brain tumor? Are we sure that the brain tumor is from that? Like, it's very, with individual cases, apparently, it's really hard to tell what's the ultimate cause. Because you're dealing with all sorts of environmental causes. But that's what I'm using.

You can also look at broad trends. Like, they were talking about cell phone use. Cell phone use has gone up a great deal. But since 1992, from the last statistic I just read, which was yesterday, the gliomas, brain tumors, the really dangerous kind, have stayed pretty steady since 1992. So you'd think with all that software and years we would, yeah. Maybe that's what it is.

Bluetooth cars. Yeah, no, that is interesting, Brian. That's interesting. Yeah. So you would see a huge market rise over the last 20 years. Yeah, it should be massive. Of course. But you just haven't.

In 26 years, you haven't. It's very steady. Maybe it's like cigarettes for a while. Maybe. It could be. They said cigarettes don't cause lung cancer. It took 50 years to figure out what it was. But it's not ionizing radiation. It's radio frequency.

It's not ionizing. Ionizing, which would be x-rays and gamma rays, that kind of stuff, that's ionizing. So what that does, actually, is it changes, it knocks atoms, I guess off the dna or screws with your dna which can then lead to cancer itself but it doesn't mean that it necessarily will but but what happens is like if one guy dies of you know whatever cancer he's took steroids and he accused that then we're like oh that's what steroids do if there's one example the media rushes well here's an important point chris benoit was just a bad dude with some CTE problems. I'm looking for a good reason to get on steroids.

He had a lot of things wrong. He was on drugs, all kinds of painkillers. He was on steroids. Yeah, it wasn't the steroids that did it. Those things also, when you're taking painkillers, certain painkillers, they react really badly to other drugs and, of course, alcohol. If alcohol's involved, I don't know if it was, but then they react even worse. He could have

been just a shitty person, too. You know, like, maybe he's a bad dude. Yeah. And then got all high and did some fucked up stuff. Anything. And he could have, you know, gone crazy. Who the fuck knows? But the Lyle Alzado thing, an important point is that Lyle Alzado was taking human growth hormone in a time where they were getting it from cadavers.

They were getting human growth hormone in a different way than they gather it now. The way they gather it now is they produce it with bacteria. They use yams and stuff, don't they? That's for testosterone. Not human growth hormone. It's also for estrogen. There's steroid fucking soaked yams. It sounds so crazy.

But they get testosterone and they can get female birth control out of Mexican wild yams. God damn, look at yams. Yams are super good for you. God damn, look at yams doing the damn thing. Super good for you. I've always liked yams. So, like, everybody that is on testosterone replacement therapy is getting it from yams. Yeah.

The problem with it now, according to Novitsky, is that they seem to have figured out a way to get it from animals. So you're going to get testosterone from animals, and it'll be bio-identical. Yeah, because the carbon, they figure it out because it has a different carbon ratio or something? Carbon isotope ratio. Novitsky's on it, I'm sure. We'll figure that shit out. He's a fucking gangster when it comes to that shit. Snitch.

Yeah. Golden snitch. The golden snitch. Yeah. Golden snitch. The golden snitch. The ultimate golden snitch. Well, you know, ultimately we're finding out what really does and does not, what's really legit. And we didn't know. As in what works, you mean?

No, as far as who's on what. Oh, yeah. Because everybody was lying. Yeah. But look at Overeem. Overeem's like, yeah, I'm not on shit. Look at me. I'm fighting for a world title.

Well, how about my man Tim Means? The dirty bird got busted for taking some creatine. The fucking dirty bird. For creatine? Was it creatine? They tested his creatine and it pisses hot. Oh, that's stupid as fuck. They found some shit right off the shelf.

They tested it and it pisses hot. I'm taking creatine. It goes, well, listen, you can take it, but you got to realize that most of the stuff you're buying, if you're buying things from GNC, muscle building, they put steroids in them. Wow. There's a list on the USADA webpage. Brian's on steroids. It is massive.

There's a list in USADA. All these testosterone boosters, how many of them make you piss hot in the Olympics? It's like thousands of them. God damn. Everything. Dude, Jamie and I went over the other day. We tried to just get through the letter A. Oh, it's exhausting

The letter A is like hundreds and hundreds So how are you supposed to Anabolic, anabolic, animal You can't take anything So you stick to whey protein basically This is what they do apparently According to friends that are in that world In the supplement world

What they're allowed to do is They can take something. That's why when you buy gas station boner pills, they have Viagra and steroids in them. Who's buying that shit? Brian Redvan.

He buys them all the time. Hey, man. He lives off them. I don't have friends that do. He doesn't even test them. He just fucking takes two, three, throws them down, goes to work.

Just rock hard all night. So they actually work. Also, it's a steroid, too. It makes you super horny. It makes you aggressive. Yeah. It makes you aggressive. Yeah. But what happens is they get caught, and then they take it off the market, and then they come right back with a new name.

With a new name. Now it's Rhino Power. But don't they change a molecule if it is on the ban list? Change the different names? They change shit. So it takes them forever. It's not banned list. They just lie about what's in it.

They don't go that far. That's like being legit. Nobody's paying attention, right? You're talking about fake marijuana. That's what you're talking about. That's what they do. about what's in it. They don't go that far. That's like being legit. Nobody's paying attention, right? You're talking about fake marijuana. That's what you're talking about. That's what they do. No, no, no. He's talking about basalts. Basalts is what they do when they take MDMA or anything else. Well, it's usually crystal meth. They do fake marijuana, too. People jump

out of windows. Kids tweak out on that shit. But fake marijuana is a plant, though. Fake marijuana, kids can buy it. I used to work for a company that sold it. What? So how do they do that? They would distribute it. Head shops. The people that would, yeah, the stores that were getting it,

they would get hit up by the FDA or whoever was against it, the DEA, and they would tell them what specific chemicals were illegal. They would then go back to the labs, take that specific molecule out, change the number from CL. Right, but how could they do that with weed? They did that with androstene, too.

It's not weed, it's that spice. They're spraying fake THC on it so people think they're getting close to that. Oh, it's the ultimate honey-dicking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, so that fake weed is like... It's legal, anybody can buy it. Whoa.

Has anybody tried it? You ever tried fake weed? In the Midwest, it's huge. Why the fuck would anyone try that? That's what they do, and then they change it. Then they get busted out, and then they go back, and the same company makes it, and they twist it a little bit. They do the same thing with bath salts and a couple other things.

Bath salts. If you've seen videos, kids freaking out on that. What the fuck? See, but the thing about- People still doing that? These pills that they're buying from the gas stations, it's not like similar stuff to Viagra. They fucking throw Viagra in it. Yeah, and steroids.

You're taking that Barry Bonds, son. Yeah, you're taking all kinds of shit. Go and fuck girls hit baseballs. You know what I'm saying? I can't believe you have a friend who takes that shit. I always look at him like, who the fuck buys this stuff? Brian's out of his mind, though. He's out of his mind.

Does he buy it in Reckless? Fuck those lot lizards? No. You've never met Red Band? Brandon, you never met Red Band? Met him very briefly at our first live show at the Comedy Store, because Rogan and him came through there. We talked to each other on Twitter, but I've never had a conversation with him.

Shit. Which is weird, because he's Joe's friend, so you'd think we'd link up, but no. He's ridiculous. He'll take those things all day. All day long. Some people don't care. Really? It's just garbage.

His endocrine system must just be shattered. He doesn't give a fuck. He smokes a lot of cigarettes and drinks. That's like my friend was like, I want more energy. Can you help me? You have a lot of energy. He's having fun. I go, you smoke.

And he goes, yeah. I go, you got to stop smoking before I start talking to you. He goes, no. I go, you smoke. And he goes, yeah. I go, you got to stop smoking before I start talking to you. He goes, no, I can't do that. I was like, then I'm not going to have a conversation with you. You can't. Who the fuck do you know that you're talking to and you said you got to stop smoking? He's a famous director. No, I can't do that.

I'll tell you afterwards. Okay. But he's a famous director. And I was like, you have to stop smoking. He goes, no. No, I can't do that. And then I go, you're going to smoking. He goes, no. No, I can't do that. And I go, you're going to die. He goes, what the hell?

Dude, I've never fucked with Viagra or anything like that. Good for you. You have? No. No. Of course. Really? I took it once.

It gave me a headache. I'm on it right now. I knew this podcast was going to be strong. There it is. Rhino 12, 7, 11. See that? Rhino 12. The graphic is so intense, I'm not taking that. Yeah, you need that in your life.

It's pretty cool, though. I wonder if you see that. What kind of pussy picks up Rhino 7? Damn, I don't know. Who doesn't go right to Rhino 12? I'm taking that Rhino 11. I'm like, we hit a party. See, I'm like, you know what?

Rhino 7 looks for bitches. Rhino 11, I'll take. It's interesting that... Rhino 7 might be for girls. Is that, I'll take. It's interesting that- Rhino 7 might be for girls. Is that his Instagram? Oh, that's Red Band's Instagram. That's it.

Jesus Christ. What's that? It means he's getting ready to party. Time, size, and stamina. He's not kidding, man. He really does take those things. No headache. Dude, some dude did a review of those things online, and he said they fucking work.

Not only do they work, it's like they're crazy good. Maybe he's getting sponsored by them or something. Brad Ben? I asked him about that once. He's taking them every day. Every day. You can't be healthy

and take them. I'm only kidding when I say every day. But he takes it a lot. Brian parties, man. Then once you don't, when you stop taking them, does your dick not work?

You know, like steroids? Talk to him. Hey, I'm out of Texas. Loren's Larkin and Jorge Masvidal are a good fight. I'm not going to say Lorenz Larkin and Jorge Masvidal it's a great fight I'm not going to say I'm not going to say

if I've ever done Viagra yeah you for sure I'm not going to say it yeah you definitely have but I'm saying if you ever do MDMA you're going to need

that shit trust me that's it that's all I'm going to say hey listen listen let's watch this fight let's watch this fight

because this is a big one Lorenz Larkin and Jorge Masvidal. This is another super skillful fight. Okay. That's a sleeper fight. It's a great fight. Larkin and Underdog, a little surprised.

Well, Larkin had that fight with Tumanov that could have gone either way. Yes. That was a super close fight. Larkin is a slick stand-up fighter. Real slick. But so is Masvidal. Remember Masvidal is kind of the first Kimbo Slice. He was a backyard fighter in Miami for a grip.

Yeah, he was in the same group as Kimbo. Yep. Right? I mean, he was in some of those early videos. Yeah, man. Super game. Phenomenal ref. He's good at everything.

Yeah, he's good at everything. He's a very smart guy, too. Yes. Very sneaky. Remember when he fought? He fought Eve edwards and i think it was bodog he head kicked him dude if he's on he just it's i don't see how guys beat that that was he's so good at everything it was back when ease was considered to be one of the best in the world yeah it's like everybody thought ease was i mean it was after ease i think it was after he had beaten josh thompson So talented for a long time. Oh, yeah, man.

But, you know, father time catches up to everybody. Just people that can do things that your body just can't do anymore. After not just father time, but I think more importantly, beatings. Yeah. Yeah, you can't take the beatings. I think it's more the reaction to it. Yeah, I was going to say. It's a reaction.

Like last night I was working that Shane Mosley fight, and I asked him afterwards, I said, you know, he fought a young guy who's 25. I said, what was the difference? He goes, my reaction time is just not there. He's way younger, faster. Did he lose? Yeah, he lost his decision. He goes, I wanted to throw something.

It's just not there anymore. Wow. He's like, that's the first time I've noticed it to go. And how long has it been since his last fight? He fought like six months ago, seven months ago. But ago but he fought you know not the same caliber guys he wasn't fighting young guys he's fighting older guys and i fought a young hungry line right and shane was always so quick when he was young so quick man but you got to think shane's also been punishing his body through camps 44 yeah for all these years highest Fight the highest level. For 20 years.

Yes. For more than 20 years. He was a stellar, nice switch kick to the body. He was a stellar amateur fighter as well. Amazing amateur fighter. Yeah. So you've got to think about all those years of boxing and all the damage that it does to you.

After a while, your body just does not want to perform anymore. And he still almost beat that young cat. Damn, where does Lawrence Larkin fight out of? He's good, man. He stands right there. Millennium jiu-jitsu. Millennium MMA. But is he a stand-up fighter first

and a grappler second? Yeah. Well, he's got skills on the ground for sure, but on his feet, he's super slick. Stand-up is his forte. Yeah, he looks it. His takedown offense is amazing. He came into reign one time and just wrestling.

Fuck, people couldn't get him down. Munoz, Cummings, myself. He's a monster. What? Well, he fought at a higher weight class. He beat Robbie Lawler in Strikeforce at 185. People forget about that. Damn.

Lorenz Larkin is legit. And at this weight class now. Yeah, at 170, he's really, really good. But it just shows you how deep the pool is because Tumanov beat him. Although, like I said, could have gone either way. He throws this really creepy fucking spinning heel kick to the legs. A lot. It's nasty.

He's really good at it. And he does it on the inside and the outside. But he did it on the outside a couple times against Tumanov. And I was like, whoa, I want to see him. Yeah, he was hitting that dude last fight he fought. He was hitting the guy in the calf. It was just crazy. I was just thinking about, like, these guys are so talented, right?

You look at welterweight, you look at middleweight. It's like Bisping. It took him 10 years to get a title shot. 10 fucking. That's how tough it is, man. I know. And meanwhile, if Yoel Romero didn't get popped and if Jacare didn't get hurt, he wouldn't have even gotten that call.

No, he would have never got a title shot. That's not necessarily true. He could have beaten one more guy and gotten a title shot, but he wasn't really in line for it. He's in a tough spot, man. With his career, physically, his eye, he's tough. Did Joel go to Jackson's? Is he training there, somebody said? I don't know.

I had heard something like that, too. I don't know what they're going to do with him. He was another one. He's cleared in July him He was another one. He's cleared to July He is another one that he had a supplement that he took an off-the-counter supplement over-the-counter supplement that was tainted Yeah, there's a lot of them that are taking shit. Yeah, but it works Works this is all the reason why this stuff has shit it is there's a reason you can't take it Yeah, your friend tells you it works and you're gonna work

You can't take it. Yeah. Your friend tells you it works, and you're going to work. You're going to mix wines? Yeah, but with Bisping, I was glad to see him get a title shot, but it sucks it's that way. But now I think it's probably the only way it was going to happen. Yeah, most likely. Masvidal just landed a good right hand.

Well, I mean, it could have happened. Look, he just beat Anderson. They're both older, though, Joe. If you toss them Jacre, Yoel, Weidman, it's going to be a tough night for them. Could be. The odds would be in my favor on that. The odds would be

in that favor, but not 100%. You know what I mean? There's a thing about guys that are tough like Bisping is they figure out a way to get shit done. Oh, he just poked the shit out of his eyes. God damn it. Oh my God. It damn it. And that looks like a merge. Oh, my God.

Ah, fuck. It's over. No way. You can't fight after that. He's not coming back from that. Oh, my God. I fucking hate eye pokes. He knew right away, too.

He said, fuck. There's nothing worse. Markin knew. His finger probably went into his brain. Hey, Joe, here's an idea for you. That's awful. With title shots, you know how they say, well, anyone in the top five needs to stay ready

if there's a title shot now. I wanna see this. Ah, watch this. Boom! Oh my god. That's knuckle deep. Goes to show you how fucking effective an eye poke is. Oh my god. I don't think anyone's questioning that, Brian. If you get in a street fight, forget all the technique.

That looked crazy. That's that Karl McGraw, son. Shit. Right? Man. I fucking hate the open fingers. He looks fine. He looks fine now.

No, no, no. He's hurting. No, he's not. Now you got one eye. He's got to fight that, dude. He's good. No way. I know.

I'm plunging my fingers into dry rice from now on. Yeah, listen, man. Dude, think about when you get poked in the eye how long it takes before you're ready again. Well, look it. He's ready to go. Yeah, because they're making him. He's acting like that.

No, he's acting like that. You would see that he would be like this if he was fucked up. He is like that. Do you know, I would like to see statistics on how, when guys fight, what happens after they get eye poked. How often they win. Somebody do that. One of you MMA websites.

You guys can poke them in the eye. No, no, no. No, we're talking about results from fights that have already happened. So one of the MMA sites, please do something on this if you have the notion. And kicks to the balls. Kicks to the balls are big. That's a good one, too. But I think eye pokes are worse, honestly.

I bet you'd be surprised at both. They're close. Maybe you get kicked in the balls and that just saps everything out of you. That's a good question. Remember when Chris Duster got kicked in the nuts by Gonzaga? And they're like, you good, bro? He got kicked so hard. He goes, yeah, I'm good.

Obviously, he looks like shit. The douchehead kick. Game over. Not that it won't happen anyways, but that was the worst I've ever seen. Yeah, it can be bad. It certainly can be bad. It's part of Congo's game plan. Balls are tricky now because you've got to cup.

These guys are going at it, man. so sometimes like when these guys are going at it when Gilbert Ivo and Vanderlei fought in pride and Vanderlei kicked

Gilbert in the balls oh yeah his cup doesn't matter what you wear his cup his cup was caught like right on his balls

and it like that'll pinch your balls it was a different kind of pain now that was like a stinging pain that he could not recover from

no it's a different game yeah but I want to see a statistic on recover from. No, it's a different game. Yeah. But I want to see a statistic on what happens to guys when it's a close fight like Mitrione and Travis Brown. And then he gets eye poked. And then from then on, it's a blowout. I mean, there's a lot of fights like that where a guy gets eye poked. And, like, it looked towards the end like Masvidal had recovered.

He looked like he was fighting really smooth and well. It didn't look like Travis. And Mitrione is a perfect example of, like, Mitrione was not the same after that eye poke. No. You could tell he got jacked. Didn't he get poked twice in that fight? Yes, he did.

And they did nothing. Yeah, it was not a good refereeing job, I don't believe. No. Who did it? What do you do, though? I don't remember. I don't want to call him out. I just remember being upset with it. Like, when a guy gets his eye poked that bad, you know, like,

there's a real problem with making a guy go fight when you know he's compromised, and the reason why he's compromised is a foul. So everybody who's watching wants the fight to continue. We don't want to be disappointed, but it's not like the fight is being stopped because of a legit technique. The fight's being stopped because of a foul.

Well, that's where it's entertaining a sport, Joe. What would you do? I would stop the fight. He's blinking, man. He's blinking a lot. He won't stop blinking now. I would honestly... Something's wrong. I think when a guy goes down like that, there's almost a good

argument to stop the fight. It definitely changes the dynamics. I would like to see those statistics, too. I guarantee it's probably in the favor of the guy who pokes the guy in the head. It's gotta be. If you see it in the... The judges should be allowed to see the replay and go, okay, that shit was deliberate. Boom. Minus a point. Well, it's not deliberate. Most times it's not deliberate.

But if it is... Certain guys How are you going to judge that, though, Eddie? But what if it's clean? Fuck if it's deliberate. Who cares what they were thinking? If you fucking landed it, you're going to get penalized. 100%. That's it. It doesn't matter. It'd be the best way to stop it, for sure. It's never going to stop. Because it's an instinct and because a lot of guys train Muay Thai.

And so they're used to open-handing people on the forehead and pushing them off. And then you go to do it with regular gloves. Some guys aren't Muay Thai. And so they're used to open-handing people on the forehead and pushing them off. And then you go to do it with regular gloves. Some guys aren't Muay Thai and they do it. If you don't get a point taken off, like for the first shot, then a guy knows he has one free shot at the balls, right? Here's the words. While they don't

have complete data, they did find 32 eye pokes that led to a pausing action from a sample of 1,333 fights. And Ramey estimated you're likely to see an eye poke in 3% to 4% of UFC fights. Taken at the high end, you're likely to see an eye poke once every 25 fights or so. Conservatively, 96% of fights transpired devoid of eye pokes. It doesn't say the success rate.

That's interesting, though, to hear that. Yeah, it is interesting. I figured behind that, I mean, 3% or 4%. Well, how many Jon Jones fights? That's probably the 3% to 4%. I mean, there's some guys that just their style ends itself. He's so long, too. I can't wait to see that Rumble-Jones fight. Well, they're not fighting next week.

Well, they're not fighting. Cormier's going to fight. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. Hey, bro. Glover Rumble is the to fight. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Fuck, never mind. Shut the fuck up. Sorry, guys. Hey, bro. I keep thinking about it. Glover rumbles the fucking fight.

It is. Masvidal looks okay, but only he knows whether or not he got really compromised with that poke. He's definitely compromised, but he can still get a win, but it's definitely- Right, but it's not the same. I agree. No, I'm with you, Joe. I wouldn't mind if they stopped it, but then you're talking about entertainment. Fuck that. They're just standing right in each other's-

There you go, Eddie. Dude, Masvidal looks good. I'd be pissed if they stopped it. Fuck that. I agree with you. in each other's room. There you go, ladies. Dude, Masvidal looks good. I'd be pissed if they stopped it. I agree with you. I'd be pissed if they stopped it in this fight.

But I think in the Mitrione fight, there's a good argument for stopping it. That fight, he looked like way more fucked up. Like when he went back,

he never looked the same. And it was terrible, man. The second time, I think there's a good argument for stopping it. It's because it's almost unfair to let a guy fight on.

I think you disqualify the guy. If you're talking two to three times, what the fuck you got to do? And it's still an accident. Even if it's an accident, it still does damage. But then you have to kind of, I think it's up to the ref. The ref's got to assess exactly what kind of an eye poke to. There's too much pressure on the ref to give him that kind of power. Masvidal is a good grappler here.

Let's see if he can get Lorenz to the ground. Lorenz is fighting it off. Dude, his takedown offense is nasty. Lorenz is so slick. But so is Masvidal, man. I'm liking the way he's fighting here. Real vet. Right in the...

Look at that. This is a little doll doll some dude made that gave it to me in Atlanta this is so fucking cool man come on that is dope that is the coolest fucking thing that is really dope

this could be like an animated series man like you could be the star of it it's hilarious well now how long it took to make it's funny cause the UFC

made those little they made little dolls yeah little they made a little Yeah, and they made one of me and they they'd gave it to me whatever the company was I was like laughing I was like that is so ridiculous look anything like me like didn't look anything like me I'm like did you just like pretend it was me just a bald guy just like just a guy just love it I don't even think it was back when I was bald I think I had hair back then but it was so bad. It looks like your torso and your arms. Oh, it looks just like me.

The guy did a great job. You look a little older in that. Yeah, but still. I was going to say, that's when you know we're all getting older. We're all getting older, though. I just want to put that out there. We're definitely getting older. Everybody does.

I mean, nobody said immediately, ah, you look older. It took a little bit, because we all expect us to get, not you, Brennan, but for us in our late 40s. Compared to you guys. How old are you now, Brennan? 33. Christ's sake. Every bit of it.

Yeah. Once you hit 40, you want those guys to hit 40 too. Ooh, look at that right hand. Come up. Every year. Come up. Come closer. You guys are wiser, though.

It's good to have friends like you guys. Dude, Larkin is looking smooth here, man. Masvidal standing. Ooh, Masvidal, that switch kick. Damn. I love that switch kick. Somebody's going to get caught here. Oof, that uppercut, man.

Yeah, well, Masvidal's real sneaky, but so is Larkin. Larkin's real sneaky with his tracks. Larkin's tough to train for, man. He's so unconventional. His angles are weird. His hair is strange. His style is weird. Well, he's got a little bit of karate mixed in with a lot of boxing and Muay Thai.

Look at this. Look at this, man. Some of his moves are like karate moves. But Masvidal might have tagged him there. Look at this. Larracca with a takedown. Who saw that coming? His jiu-jitsu is good, too.

That'll win him the round for sure. Joe, all I was saying on those title shots, what if, you know how they say Anyone in the top five needs to stay in shape Just in case a guy gets hurt What if during a title shot the UFC Tells a guy he's the reserve So if Wiedemann gets hurt You're up brother So you don't have to go in training camp

But be ready because you're the first guy we go to So we're not fumbling around We should have that laid out Like on the card Like the alternates. I don't think you tell people because let's say in DC Jones' case, let's say Rumble's the alternate, people want to see that fight. It's like, come on, hopefully he gets hurt.

I don't think you tell anyone. You just surprise them. Only that fighter knows. Then you start paying people. I think Rumble's the most dangerous fight in many ways because Jones does take hits to the face, and he can't do that with Rumble. I don't think he can do that.

If you listed the alternate, either fighter might have someone pay someone off to make sure that motherfucker gets hurt. You don't tell anyone. So you can't tell anybody. No one's going to do that. Hey, it could happen in big title fights. You're like, shit, I want to fight that guy. I don't want to fight this dude.

What you'd have to worry about is some unscrupulous promoter or some character. Tonya Harding, for sure. Don't forget about Tonya Harding. Think if they told Bisping, hey, bro, you know, Sousa's out for a while. Obviously, our boy Yoel's out for a while. If something happens to Weidman, there's a good chance, because he does get hurt, you're up. So don't go to fucking Toronto and film

a movie. Yeah, you tell them one in five. You're one of five guys we're thinking about. Yeah, but if you're a guy like Bisping, and they offer you a fucking movie Yeah, you tell one in five. You're one of five guys we're thinking about. Yeah, but if you're a guy like this thing and they offer you a fucking movie and you realize you're at the end of your career,

you got to take that movie shot. Oh, I'm not hating on him. I'm just saying if the UFC had a plan in place, yes. But then he would still have to take that movie. You got to take it

because it's a bird in the hand. You know, maybe you would train a little bit more. In general, guys aren't filming Fast and Furious 9 or whatever. You know what I'm saying? You never know. Like with Chael Stone and Jon Jones, if you had a

backup in case, you'd still have a fight. So, Weidman is out for a while, man. He's got some disc issues in his neck. He says he'll be back for that Madison Square Garden card. Yeah, he wants to be, but he's got to be real careful because you don't want to rush something like this. He's got a herniated disc in his neck that's, whoo, god damn, Lorenz is fast.

Speaking of herniated discs, I go into surgery Tuesday for my L5. Oh, shit, damn, bro. Disc replacement, baby. For your lumbar, lower? Yep. Wow. Going in there, serious shit. How bad is it?

My disc, my L5, S1, it doesn't exist. That's why my lower back is in eternal, constant state of inflammation. It's just sore. It's just a wreck. It's just a wreck every day, no matter what I do. I could stop working out for two months, and it would feel like I did squats the day before. Is there anybody you guys know? Or deadlifts, you know what I mean? For sure get that surgery.

Is there anyone you guys know who trained in jiu-jitsu for a long time who doesn't have some issue with their back or neck? No. My doctor said that it's like cranking on your neck and back all the time. I mean, it's part of the game. You're pretty injury-free. My doctor said you get girls in here

who've never done anything and they're 23 and their back's all right. Keep it against the cage. Nope. Nope. Goddamn Lorenz is tough. Oh shit! Son! Oh shit! This is a fight, dude. Goddamn. This is a

fall. Oh but hey, hmm, good damn. Oh my god, this is a fucking slobber knocker. Yeaher Real Donnie Again! He has to pass Nope, he's out

Do you see what he's doing? He's bridging on his neck He's in trouble Defense Beautiful defense Masvidal is fucking relentless too Jesus Christ How about Larkin's takedown defense again?

Crazy takedown defense. It's nuts. He's so athletic. He just went up on his head. His guillotine defense, too, is insane. Goddamn. Especially when he's this tired. Third round of a brawl. Would you mind if dudes started wearing rash guards if they wanted to? No. You should be able to wear that if you want to.

Girls wear them. Why not? They can't have their titties out it takes sweat it would take sweat out of the game which I think would show more technique especially gravity increase what's a mission it would oh yeah it would suppress it doesn't matter the count guy gets right back they should make they should make rash cards mandatory no no yeah no no guys should wear sunglasses too no there's been It doesn't matter if it counts because the guy gets right back up. They should make rash cards mandatory. No. No.

Yeah. No, no, no. Guys should wear sunglasses, too. No, there's benefits to it, and then there's negatives to it. If you're a striker, you want to keep... You want to be all greased up? Yeah. Oh, he tagged him with an uppercut. Dude, this is...

Jesus Christ, this fight is amazing. This is crazy. Nuts. Definitely not mandatory. But if you want to... You got to remember this. Is greasing illegal or legal? Illegal. It's nuts. Definitely not mandatory. But if you want to. You got to remember this. Is greasing illegal or legal? Illegal.

It's illegal. Because it's a foreign substance. Yeah, but it's a foreign substance. Don't compare that to sweat. No, no, no, no, no. But why, though? Because it's a foreign substance. It's a foreign substance.

And then what happens? What does it do? Come on, don't play games. It benefits the guy that has it on him because he can't take it down. And it's a foreign substance. Yeah. Of course, but. It's nothing like sweat. Well, it's's nothing like it's very much like sweat sweat is slippery and greasy

me sir sweat is very slippery it's very similar it's just it's just it's uh a lot more extreme it's a lot more extreme that brain and that back just double double duty double duty brother okay eddie what are they gonna do though uh put a rash guard? No, for your back. Eddie, that's like the gi argument. Why doesn't everybody wear a gi? No, it's just if greasing is illegal because it makes shit too slick. Boom. It really is.

If greasing is illegal, it has nothing to do with the gi. If greasing is illegal because it makes shit too greasy. And it's a foreign substance. But the problem is there's no test for it. Right, but a rash guard is a foreign substance. So if it's illegal, how do you test for it? You can rash guard. There is no test for it. Tell me about the test, there's no test for it. Right, but a rash guard is a foreign substance. So if it's illegal, how do you test for it? You can test for it. There is no test for it. Tell me about the test, because there is no test, but tell me about the test you know.

With Vaseline or whatever? Yeah, how do they test? Dude, you have a commission following you around from the locker room to the cage. But there's no swab, and then they put it in. It's like testing in a cup. There's no official test that says that you went over the grease limit.

Let me stop this right now because one thing you definitely can do 100% that has been done is you take a mineral oil bath the night before. Yes. You take a mineral oil bath the night before and then you get into that cage and you don't have anything on. You took a shower. You don't have anything on. You are so

lippery as fuck. Is that right? Yeah. 100%. And there's nothing anybody can do about it. You don't have anything on. You are so lippery as fuck. Is that right? Yeah. Really? 100%. It's all the fucking time. 100%. And there's nothing anybody can do about it. Nothing anyone can do. Unless there's an official test.

But there is no official test. But since girls are wearing, girls wear rash guards all the time. We wouldn't need a test to make everyone wear rash guards. You're a true guy, but I don't think it's a huge issue where Dana's going, holy fuck, everyone's slipping out submissions. We've got to figure something out here. I do believe. It's not an issue.

fuck, everyone's slipping out submissions. We've got to figure something out here. I do believe it's not an issue. Every year the NFL has meetings to change stuff to make the sport more offensive. They're always figuring out a way. They're always handicapping the defense. You can't hit the receiver. You're always

handicapping the defense. You want more offense as a league. The same thing can be done for MMA. You get together and go, how do we improve submissions, for instance? You improve submissions by making more rash guards. They want knockouts. They want knockouts as much as they want submissions. No, exactly.

We do something for the knockouts, too, but you do something for submissions, too. Every year, you do something a little bit here and there. Girls wear rash guards all the time. I'll tell you what. They can't have their titties out. I'll take rash guards, no gloves for 1,000 hours. God damn it. No.

No, guys. God damn it. What were you saying about headgear? Rash guards, no gloves. a thousand hours. God damn it. No, no, guys. What were you saying about headgear? Let's do it. That'd be perfect. You wouldn't have to create this test for this thing that you made legal. It's illegal, but there's no test because it's not that big of a deal. I don't think you're right. Why is it illegal?

Hold on. I don't think you're right. I don't think you're right because I know that Herb Dean tested someone before. I know Herb Dean took a swab People grease all the time, dude. I don't think you're right, because I know that Herb Dean tested someone before. I talked to Herb Dean personally. He took a swab off someone. Maybe it was just a test of physics. Dude, it's like a... They pat you down.

Listen, listen. It's a... I don't think it's that much of an advantage. Oh, it's a big advantage. It's a crazy advantage. It's a big advantage. If you're a grappler... God, man.

If you're a grappler, it is. Have you... Of course. It's a tremendousremendous advantage What did Herb say Try grappling with someone greasy What did Herb say You said you talked to Herb

He said he's done like on site shit Where he'll like look and see But that doesn't stop a guy How long ago was this Maybe a couple months ago Maybe three months ago I was asking everyone There like, where is it? There's no test.

They just... Lorenz Larkin. Damn. The monsoon. I think that's a good decision. I didn't watch it close enough. It was close, but I think it was good. I didn't watch it close enough to judge, but his takedown definitely helped him.

Those two takedowns. I feel like he landed just a little bit more. Amazing fight. Well, we barely paid attention, let's be honest. We're talking about illegal greasing and rash guard. All I'm saying, if it's illegal, come up with an official test. If there's no official test, then the simple answer gets too expensive. Simple answer, just have them do what the girls do.

The girls wear tops. Nah, man, if there's tops, I'm not watching. What's interesting with sweat is that with sweat, the conditions naturally change. They naturally change. They start off dependent upon your preparation. That's one of the things where Nate Marquardt fought Paul Harris. He wore a rubber suit backstage, and Nate really got super sweaty. And then when he went out there to fight, he was already sweaty as fuck.

And so when Paul Harris went for that leg lock, Nate was all sweated up. Nate slipped out. And Paul Harris started pointing at him. And Nate punched his fucking lights out. That was great. One of my favorite fights of all time. It was great. It was a great ending.

Well, it was a great ending. You'd like Turkish oil wrestling. You should check it out. Yes. I'll Turkish oil the wrestling. They look like you. Do you understand? Those guys reach into each other's pants. Yeah, it's on YouTube. And look like you with mustaches. Those guys reach into

each other's pants. And they grab each other's dick and they use each other's dick to manipulate each other. No Bruno, man. Where the dick goes, the body will follow. I bet you guys want that too. No gloves and dick grabbing. You should grow a mustache. I like that, but that'll never get passed.

A handlebar mustache should look good. I have a question for you. Headgear, is that science that it actually is worse for you when you're boxing? It can be worse. It's not necessarily worse, but it can be worse. Why? Because it makes a larger fulcrum. Because it's a larger thing, and you get clipped, and it makes your head spin more.

Oof. Yeah, and it's also heavy. Yeah. So you have this thing. I don't know. What is a weigh? Like half a pound, a pound? You also like to take more shots, right? It makes your head, it's slower for your head to move.

One of the things about punches is you see them coming, you've got to learn how to roll with shit. And you can't roll with shit if you have this big ass fucking headgear on. But then you can't begin, it's good for cuts, so you can't get cuts. Well, but that's just in training. Which is huge, Joe. Yeah, but it's not, I mean, it's, I think you're better off greasing your fucking head up. But then there's a problem. Because they grease heads up.

They grease faces up and shit. Yeah. And then you take that same grease and you put it on a dude's chest as you're trying to take him down. And then you grab your arms, you wrap it around. Yeah, it's all over. And now you've got grease on your arms. Yeah.

Boxers are part of the sport, man. Boxers are part of the sport, man. You're allowed to do that. How much Vaseline are they using in the UFC these days? Like, why are they even using it? They're using less and less. That's like leftover bullshit boxing shit. Why are you putting Vaseline all over your fucking face?

It makes punches not cut you. So they hit you, but they slide off. Instead of them grazing and scratching you with the leather gloves. That's a fight. Hey, I'm down with that. I will say this. No Vaseline, no gloves. Jesus.

Rash guard. No gloves. And rash guard. You said rash guard. You could wear rash guards. I don't think there's a problem with rash guards. But I think rash guards...

I feel like your bones would cut skin more. Are you against rash guard? Optional? Yeah. Are you against that? Optional? This is a good fight.

I think you'd be a bad look. Kamozi. It's a bad look. You could put your fucking Reebok on that. Can you imagine the Reebok rash guards I can come up with with the red and the black? Loving his hair store Vito Vito Miranda in the kit. This dude's a bad motherfucker. This is a serious fight here

Is he come ozy Miranda? Yeah, yeah Nasty kick where she from it Brazil Kamozi so game it's not even game as fuck And he's been training With Weidman's camp Great hair Trains in Denver And then he's going out To Weidman's camp Tough man And so is Miranda

Miranda's a little older I think Miranda I want to say he's 34 35 But he's a Multiple time kickboxing champion He's a nasty striker And a Russian

And a Russian assassin Even though he's from Brazil Look at him He's not Russian I know but he looks like a Russian He was a finalist In the Ultimate Fighter of Brazil Remember? Jesus He's not Russian. I know, but he looks like a Russian. He was a finalist in the Ultimate Fighter Brazil, remember?

Yeah. Jesus. He's a fucking monster. He throws babies. It's a tough fight for Kamosi. He's a bad motherfucker. It's a tough fight for Kamosi style-wise. Click on his name, please. Vitor Miranda.

So we can find out what his last fights were. One KO, last fight. I think his last three fights, three finishes. Am I right? I can't see that. Win, win, win. Scroll down. KO, KO, KO.

What's up, son? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that. Marcelo Guimaraes. Guimaraes. I forget how to say that guy's name. But he knocked that dude out. It was nasty.

And Guimaraes was a really good striker himself. And the Clint Hester fight, too. Ooh, I was like, Jesus Christ. So he's only lost that decision in the Ultimate Fighter finale, and he just wrestled him the whole time. Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker. Tough fight for Kamoze style-wise. Kamoze's not a wrestler, he's not a grappler,

he likes to stand and bang. You know what, though? Kamoze's so goddamn tough. He's just so fucking tough. He's one of those dudes you just can't count out. No, unless he's fighting Jacare. Jacare said, what? I'm going to eat that ass up. Easy paycheck. Oh oh you want it again so crazy the exact same way all through

this shit all day yeah well for kamosa those losses like you know you recover from those pretty quick oh you're fine tap out in the next week yeah you can fight quick jacare it's all good baby yeah that was fucked up twice. Short notice fights. The killer Jacare. Jacare's ground game is so scary. My God. He tore his meniscus or something? Yeah, he's got a knee that's a little beat up from training camp for Vitor.

What he did to Vitor was just... Jesus. He should have taken a fucking cortisone shot and jumped in that fight. He really should have. I agree. You know, I almost feel like... Unless it's really fucked up. I just feel like, man's really fucked up i just feel

like man he's gonna get a title shot but he fought against rockhold and everybody knows that rockhold took that last fight with staff it's deaf in his foot he's pretty fucked up everybody fights hurt you know you're telling me like this opportunity i guess maybe he just wasn't maybe he's eating donuts and shit maybe he just wanted a break or... Maybe he went on the bomba. The bomba. On the bomba. You didn't know what that is, did you? No. You're laughing.

You don't know what we're talking about. No, I thought... Stereo? Yeah, exactly. Stereo? I don't think he did. I don't think Rock Ray did, but it sucks that he didn't take that fight

because I think stylistically that's a really interesting matchup. It's going to happen, though. You mean it's going to happen, actually. Rockhold, they fought. They fought in Strikeforce, and Rockhold won a decision. Maybe he just realized. I still think the guy who's going to beat both Weidman and Rockhold,

any of those guys, is Joel Romero. Maybe. He's just so. Romero beat Jacare. Yeah, he did. But when you think about Weidman, you think about, of course, his striking, but his wrestling is amazing. Jacare beat Romero, rather. That's why he was next in line.

But when Jacare beat Romero, he almost got taken out in that first round. But then he came back and won second and third. Yeah. But, you know, Romero, I think we fucking missed out. You can keep it up here. What are you hiding weed for? We fucking missed out. You can keep it up here.

What are you hiding weed for? Romero missed out in that he's like 30, late 30s, like 36, 37. He came late. Yeah. We got a hold of Romero when he was like 26. What? I mean, he was just a goddamn super duper athlete. He's a beast. All natural.

He's a freak. Well, you know, I don't know. But he did beat Kale Sanderson, you know, I don't know. But he did beat Kale Sanderson, you know. Twice. Twice. Twice, dude. Which is, you know, we're talking about the Olympic gold medal. He walked through the, in that finals against that Korean guy to win the gold medal,

he walked through that guy. It was like he was just crazy, man. He's a monster. He's a monster as a wrestler. I mean, I've seen him do stuff inside the octagon, like just his movements. So like when I'm watching fights, you know, up close, and you watch like thousands of them or whatever I've watched at this point, you get used to like certain speeds that people move under.

And every now and then someone will move at a speed that you're like, whoa, my brain's not recognizing this. Like how's like Barboza's switch kick. My brain just goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck? I'm good, dude. Right. Let me see that. And I think that one of the biggest examples of that

is Yoel. Yoel, the way he moves, the way he throws people around, it's almost like he's not even the same thing as them. He just tosses guys around. He's just some crazy-ass silverback, and you're some dude in a rubber gorilla outfit It's so weird

He lost to Tim He lost to Jacare I think Well he didn't lose to Tim But he definitely should have been disqualified Definitely cheated He knocked out Tim in the third round But he should have never made it to the third round He was not capable of coming off his stool

For the third round They should have stopped the fight And they should have given it to Tim Kennedy. He was cheating, yes. So I think he should have lost that fight based off that disqualified. Then I thought he lost to Jacare. He definitely lost to Jacare. He lost the decision.

He definitely did. Yeah, but he was kind of close, and they didn't fail. No, I think, well, he almost put Jacare's lights out in the first, that spinning back fist. And then after that was, thank you, my brother. I think you're crazy if he beats Jacare. When Jacare had him in half guard, did you see that?

When he stood right up, like, you know, there's something about Joel Romero where it seems like Jacare's jiu-jitsu, nothing was going to work. Yeah, it was a very close fight, but I mean. He's the ultimate athlete. He makes other athletes look like fat slobs. He's a freak, man.

He's a freak. He makes, like, real, like, if you saw, like, Chris Weidman is a stud athlete. Yes. Chris Weidman standing next to Yoel Romero. It's like, Chris, why don't you work out? Yeah, for real. Right.

And Chris is a great wrestler. He's a stud. Chris looks like Dallas Byers Club next to him. He's just like super skinny. I'm bummed out that he's got a neck injury because I want to see that motherfucker fight. It's a great fight. It's amazing. The rematch I like.

The rematch is amazing. But that neck injury is no joke. And I just hope he doesn't do something drastic quickly in order to repair himself quickly enough to get back. Does he need surgery for the neck? It might not be. It sounds similar to the exact injury that I had. What I had to do is take a long time, and you have to do decompression.

I have this neck harness that I hang on a door. It hangs on a door frame, and it's like I'm hanging myself velcros in place I pull it down tight and I go like this click click click click click and I hang on my neck what the fuck how long does it take why do we need surgery I'm pretty sure why this isn't in doing that in doing that what I just described over a long period of time and Regenerkin those two things it stopped my bulging disc and it sucked back into my neck. My disc stuck out like there was an MRI. When I looked at the disc, it was like 6mm bulge.

Now I have none. It went back. You can do it. But when you go to doctors, one of the first things they want to do is cut you. Now, obviously, this is super important to talk about. Everybody's injury is different. Because it worked for me, it might not work for you. Your injury might be worse than mine, and it might get to a point where there's nothing they can do except for surgery.

But you don't know that just by talking to some doctors because some doctors are just ready to cut you. And they might be right, and they might have had success with it, but that gentleman who's on TV right now is a testament to the fact that it does not always work. And Boss will tell you, he's had several neck surgeries. And because of that, because of his neck injury, his arm, he has one arm that's atrophied that he calls baby arm. Because his nerves weren't firing to his arm. He was impinged. It's serious, serious shit. Nerves weren't firing to his arm. He was impinged. Here's the argument, though, Joe. Serious shit.

What they're going to ask, Chris's decision to be based off of, what's going to get me back faster? It's probably going to be surgery. You can't, but he's got to think about- That's what they're going to tell him anyways. He's got to think about the future because he's one of the baddest motherfuckers on the planet. I think he can get back in action, but it's an injury. You've got to let it heal up instead of cutting it out. Now, in Eddie's case,

Eddie's got a totally different case. Eddie's disc is gone. It's gone. I'm bone to bone. My lower back is in a constant state of inflammation. It's been like that for maybe eight years. I've tried fucking everything. Eddie also has time. I finally got my MRI. People kept saying,

get an MRI. And I tried everything. Fucking chiropractor, all this shit, get an MRI. And I tried everything. Fucking chiropractor, all this shit, acupuncture. And finally I got an MRI and the MRI shows, I mean, any fool can see there is no disc there. It's bone to bone.

You're in a constant state of inflammation because I would stop working out. Once I started having back spasms and my back felt like it was just going to completely cut out, I stopped working out altogether. and in two months i still felt like i did deadlifts the fucking day before well miranda's back probably isn't great he done it he's 37 yeah he's 37 i had no idea i thought he's a young dude no i think he was 35 when he was on the ultimate fighter good for him yeah no he's a stud and but you knowally, the thing is, when you get to be that age,

it's like you're dealing with a reduced level of testosterone unless you're, like, super on point with your diet, super on point with your rest, super on point with consumption of saturated fats and cholesterol. That's very important if you want to have natural testosterone production. And this is something that i really get pissed off when people start talking about the dangers of saturated fats like you're you're preaching some outdated nonsense some non-scientific bullshit that people have said and they've said it to demonize meat consumption that's right and meat consumption

look scientifically it's not bad What's bad is ethically. I think we all agree that factory farming is bad ethically. But when it comes to scientific consumption, saturated fats are super important for testosterone production, super important for brain function, cholesterol, not just cholesterol produced by the body, but dietary cholesterol, which, by the way, apparently barely moves the needle on blood lipids. Yeah. That's a big misnomer. That's the new, that's right. That's the new science. That's new, huh?

Well, yeah. I mean, eating the yolk of the egg is not going to move the needle in terms of what you're eating. It's good for you. That's where most of the nutrients are. Yes. I just got five new chickies. I got five little baby chicks.

Where do you get, oh, from the other chickens you got a little farm man you never seen love your own chicken yeah no no i don't eat them no no it's just your own chicken they're pets they're like pets we pick them up and play with them and stuff remember one thing about factory daughter names them and shit oh yeah there's no way we're you can't eat you can't eat gray they've died they've died we don't eat them fucking shot no i don't eat them wow no they're pets amazing well jo. Wow. No, they're pets. Amazing. Joe can be nice. Well, they're pets, man.

I just thought it was like about raise your own food, raise your own chickens. You raise them to eat them. I thought that was the ethical way. And he's going, shit. I hardly ever eat chicken. No, you're using them. Yeah. But I wouldn't eat them because we have a different kind of relationship.

The relationship that I have with them is that they're egg layers and they're our little friends. Like, we go in there and my daughter picks them up. Do they have different personalities or are they all the same? No, they have different personalities. Really? They're like cats, too? They're like, one of them is really smart. They're like rabbits, right?

Actually, my dog killed that one. But we had one that was really smart and she would pick up the dog out in the chicken coop, man. It's so funny. And the smart one died? The fox in the chicken coop? Yeah, so funny like the fox in the chicken coop yeah the smart one died unfortunately the smart one wanted to have the lowest perch I guess she wasn't that smart yeah

that might be the dumbass yeah she knew to follow me around and like she knew that if anybody picked up rocks that like my wife would like lift up rocks and she would go under there to get the bugs she knew so she followed you around waiting for you to pick up rocks for her. Smart little chicken.

Wow. The other ones are too stupid to figure it out. You kind of understand a little bit my obsession with my bunny. Remember five years ago? Oh, no, no. Listen, I totally understand. People thought I was nuts. I was obsessed.

I had a bunny, and I was obsessed with it, man. I was in love with it. Dude, I was fucking 41. 41 in love with a rabbit? In love with a bunny, dude. What? I was in love with it. Oh, Kamo fucking 41. 41 in love with a rabbit? In love with a bunny, dude. What? I was in love with it. Oh, Kamozi.

I was. Oh, Kamozi. Elbow, son. Kamozi tagged him, dude, with a straight left hand. When I was doing this show and one of the guys, the second AD, had an African gray parrot, I think, or it was a cockatoo, and he had it for 17 years. Oh, my God. He and his wife got in an argument.

The parrot was on the ground. He stepped on the parrot and killed it. Oh, no. After 17 years, man. And he came, and I had macaws, so I knew what he was going through. And he came to work, and he was all bunched up. And my friend was like, it's a fucking bird. I go, dude, it's not just a bird, bro.

They're really smart, and it was like his. He killed his best friend. Yeah. Ste, it's not just a bird, bro. They're really smart. And it was like his best friend. Yeah. Stepped on his neck. He stepped on it while arguing with his wife. He's like, you bitch. And another thing. And crack. Like, oh, no.

What the fuck did you make me do? You made me do this. 17 years. He had the bird way before he met her. He blamed her. Oh, Miranda with the takedown. Kamozi, scramble, scramble. Hips out, hips out, hips out.

Get that fucking left leg. Oh, be careful. Be careful, knee bar. Doesn't look that slick. I don't like it. This might be an improvisational knee bar. Get out of there. Get out of there, everybody.

Scissor sisters. It's good defense right here. This is a purple belt 50-50. There you go. Yeah, it really is. It is, right? Yeah. This is like a...

It's defense with the one arm skin. No, it's the same 50-50. No, the defense on the one arms quality I mean it is in terms of nothing's gonna happen No, Kamosi doesn't have You know, Kamosi got something He's trying to set it up Kamosi got something, if he wants it, he fucking definitely has something

If he knows what he's doing You think he does? He has a lot I don't know Well, if you're Gary Tonin, yeah, he's gonna be fine Oh, I don't know That's interesting Chris Kamosi

How hard are those elbows to the thigh from that? How much does that suck? I've never had it done. Because you would think that a guy who's got really good elbows could seriously fuck your leg up. Like this here. You see what I'm saying? Like Miranda has got some serious elbows. And I'm watching him and I'm like, I bet this guy could fuck your legs up.

This is interesting because Kamosi has got a nice jab there. We've never seen a situation like this exactly in the UFC. He could release that body lock and jump to mount maybe. Release the body lock! Release the body lock! You know what's rare is the way Kamozi's punching him in the face from the bottom. And fucking him up. He's fucking him up with that right hand. Generally you think, oh, you go for leg locks, guy's going to punch you.

Rarely do people say, get a leg lock position, but instead of finishing him, because Kamoze is in an offensive position, he could go after that heel fucking right hand. It's not his thing, though. What's going on? He's punching the guy back. What's going on is Miranda can't move backwards. See, this is what's going on. Miranda's trapped.

Kamoze can move his body Forward and back Whereas Miranda can't Oh now Kamoze's Trying to lock it in Yeah he's Oh Time's out Kamoze hit him With some hard right hands

I wonder how the The refs are gonna score that Well you should Actually give it to Kamoze Fuck yeah Give that round to Kamoze Well not just that That position

Even though Miranda's Above him You have to understand Who's close to getting Something done And who's being more effective Oh Kamoze had a He had a heel

He had a a heel hook. He had a potential heel hook. And then he also punched him in the face. The big thing was the punches in the face. Even though Miranda's on top, Kamoze's tagging him with that right hand. Kamoze also made that position happen. He wasn't put on bottom.

Exactly, exactly. Which is a big deal. There's a new level of leg lock game that John Danaher put together that's a very, very important part of jiu-jitsu right now. And 10 planets all over it, man. We've taken the leg lock game to the next fucking level within ourselves. You don't see a lot of it in the UFC now. It's coming around.

No, no, you're seeing it. Once Paul Ryan's bounce. How about Ryan Hall? Yeah, you're seeing it. One ultimate fighter. That's his go-to. You know what you're seeing it. One ultimate fighter. That's his go-to. You know what you're going to see that's different? That's his shit.

The one thing that you're going to see that's different is leg lock battles against the cage. There's a whole different thing. There's going to be moves. Damn, are you trying to do rash guards and leg lock battles? That's a super good point. No, Eddie, that's a super good point because it can't go anywhere. I'm telling you about the future and you're sitting here talking about the present? See? Eddie! Eddie Bravo! That's the point because they can't go anywhere. I'm telling you about the future and you're sitting here talking about the present. See, Miranda's got some nasty smooth kickboxing.

By the way, look at that leg. Look at that inside knee. Well, the inside leg kick, he's attacking the knee itself. The last three strikes have gone like right on there. Kamozi's got skinny knees there. Kamozi's made out of iron. The fucking kid's a stud. He's iron, man.

Nobody's knees are. Your knees are not made for sports. How about that? Go ahead and kick the knee. That's all bone, son. Well, Miranda's been slamming his shin into the outside and the inside of that knee. Ouch. Ouch.

The mushy parts. Yeah, he's definitely, it looks a little... Get on the... Inside knee. Yeah, but why is that one okay? If people are upset about attacking the knee That one is almost as devastating Especially the outside low kick

Like Ernesto Hus style By the way I flip flopped I'm for stopping the knee I love flip flopping I thought about what you were saying This whole time I thought about what you were saying this whole time. I thought about what you were saying this whole time. I flip-flopped.

You know what? Oh! Fucking what? Oh, Kamozi was a sweep. What? Beautiful, beautiful sweep. Don't ever bring that shit into my gym again. Kamozi on top.

With those fucking leg kicks. How are they going to walk with their grandchildren? People don't think about that. They never think about that. There you go, Eddie. Miranda's got a maze to get to his dick. Buy a fucking ivory-handled cane. Look at Miranda's Eddie. Miranda's got a maze to get to his dick. Buy a fucking ivory-handled cane. Look at Miranda's left leg.

It's a maze to get to his dick. You go in, and you got to follow the line. Follow this. Follow the breadcrumbs. It's the grandfather clause. He's got a maze. There's a maze on his left hand. To this dick.

Can you imagine him saying that in a Brazilian accent? That's great. I want to show a girl from my knee a mess all the way to my cock. All the way. You know, to follow. Just go north. You find the way. A lot of body art.

It's like a rat face. There's no cheese at the end. Just a dick. How would an openly gay play-by-play commentator commentate this fight? Don't do this. Oh, God. No, no, no. Brazilian. Brazilian. This guy's hard. commentate this fight no no no no Brazilian

this guy's hard so strong I mean it's all the muscle they're wearing oil he don't have questions I'll be answering you

it's just sweat it's not it's not oil sweat for the for the body on body like that no no it's just they're they're just working out really hard and their body their body heats up and um heat hit all the heat yeah yeah why why are they are so strong well because they're fighting they're fighting other men they have to be strong otherwise you get your ass kicked and yeah you know you want to protect your joints and stuff sometimes you know maybe the clothes come off something i don't know um well you know their clothes are on pretty tight they got quality reebok gear on here and uh cups and stuff everything's fine you don't have to worry about that okay you are you smelling good you are shower all day and I just got back from bear hunting smell like bear and

smell the forest you smell like the forest yeah Vitor Miranda cut over the left eye yeah tell you what Chris well man come ozzy work and this grab really well you know you you know as well as anybody that the gaps in grappling are the hardest to close for some reason. Well, you know, not the hardest. I shouldn't say the hardest. Every gap is a hard gap to close.

You say striking, but not necessarily in the case of a guy like Damian Maia to a guy who's a good high school wrestler. You're never closing that gap in your lifetime.

Yeah. You're going to have to become obsessed with jiu-jitsu and live on the mats for the next 10 years to even get in his neighborhood That's a good point because there's got like like Alistair Overeem who's just um Look at this Ben Brothwell Fabricio verdum added the 203 in Cleveland good googly moogly in that crazy

That uh, I like that fight and you got steep a Overeem as the main event. I like that fight, too So so so why is there not an automatic rematch for for a steep everybody doesn't get an automatic rematch it has to be yeah but but i mean i don't know why the ufc doesn't do that because it was a ko yeah it was a lot of people waiting in line like over him i want to see the over him i want to see the over him steep a fight as much as i want to see any fight in the UFC other than the Kane and Verdum rematch. I want to see Kane-Verdum sea level. I want to see that. I want to see Kane in great shape.

I think I still maintain that I've seen, like, again, this is just coming to movements and what you see inside fights. I think Kane, like, in the second fight with Junior Dos Santos, I think that is right up there in my eyes with Fedor's fight with Crow Cop. Where you're just seeing a mauling by a better animal against an animal in his prime. Probably the best Kane we've ever seen. Yeah. He came after a loss.

What I really would have wanted more than anything else in the history of the heavyweight division is that Kane versus that Fedor. Fedor versus Crow Cop versus Kane Jr. too. That's sick. That would be the ultimate who's the greatest heavyweight of all time. Because right now, then it just becomes speculation. You know, after Kane gets like a back injury and two knee surgeries and shoulder surgeries, you got to go, how much of him does he have left? I mean, how much are we seeing?

Are we seeing the same Kane that fought Junior Dos Santos? Are we seeing the same Kane that, you Dos Santos? Are we seeing the same Kane that, you know, ran through guys on the way up to the title that ran through Rothwell? I don't know if we are.

Especially with his style. Yeah, styles just break everything, including himself. He's just bulldog. And training.

Mental toughness, ferocious individual, born to fight, and the body just can't keep up with the mind. Yeah. So to me, those are the two.

That's number one and number two. But then Kane and Fedor were both submitted by Verdum. That's right. Both of them.

Verdum submitted the three greatest heavyweights of all time. Dude, you could argue Verdum's the greatest heavyweight of all time. You could argue it. You really can.

You could. Look who he's beat. But Stipe just shut the fucking show off so you can't argue that anymore. No, you still can. You can't base it You really can. You could. Look who's beat. But Stipe just shut the fucking show off, so you can't argue that anymore. No, you still can. You can't base it off one fight. Right. It's about the product.

You can argue it. And also, Verdum, realistically, is in his late 30s and clean. What's going on over here? Why are they stopping the fight? Something happened. Oh, it's cut. It's cut. Ooh, that's a bad one above the eye.

Isn't that bad? I'm saying it's thick. He's going to be fine. He's good. Oh, yeah. It looks nasty. Yeah, just don't worry about above the eye. Is that bad? I'm saying it's thick. He says he's good. Oh, yeah, it looks nasty. Don't worry about it, doctor. Smile. Smile, Victor. That doctor's a UFC doctor. That motherfucker is from Vegas. He's not

letting anything get stopped. Oh, he says, no, you can die, bitch. He's not saying that. If his eye was falling off, now you good. He's not saying that. We're an eyepatch. We're an eyepatch. No doctor's gonna stop that kind of shit. He's not saying that. Wear an eye patch. Wear an eye patch. He's going to let it go. No doctor's going to stop that kind of shit. It's got to be disgusting.

Like, the crowd's got to go, oh! Oh, shit. Like, your ear's got to fall off. Come on, come, girl, there. Kamozi's kickboxing is very good, man. Very good. I'm really impressed. It's like his kickboxing has gotten smoother.

His timing's gotten better. And it must be because he was really concentrating on knowing he was going to fight Miranda. Yeah, and I think that, and then he also went to the East Coast, was training with Ray Longo and Weidman. Doubling up on that jab. And then going back to Denver. Look at this jab, man. Ray Longo is an excellent coach.

Uh-oh. Oh, look at this. Uh-oh. Kamozi with the takedown. Kamozi's such a good dude, too, man. Great guy. Both guys are. Miranda's a really nice guy, too. Kamozi's been a good dude too man Great guy Both guys are Miranda's a really nice guy too

Kamoze's been fighting forever man On the Denver scene He was kind of like the first guy Who was just doing the damn thing Yeah and again Not particularly physically gifted Just fucking smart How old is Kamoze?

I thought he was younger than that No Well he's been around I think he's 34 Is he 34 Jamie? 34, 35 But he has a shit load of experience Powerful soccer control

And great hair He's got shop hair It's the Denver water 34, 35, but he has a shitload of experience. Powerful soccer control. And great hair. He's got shop hair. It's the Denver water. And Vito Miranda on his back. This is not good for the third round. No. No.

Miranda. Great job by Kamozi. Kamozi, clench down. Cover his face. Stop the breathe. Eddie. Cover his face. Go for head and arm. Your fucking skin.

From here and compress. This is smooth as saddle leather, dude. Comp breathe. Eddie. Cover his face. Go for head and arm from here and compress. It's a smooth saddle leather. Compress. Congratulations. Look at his skin. He gets exfoliated with a lot of training. Are you doing any facial stuff? I gotta get a facial. He's got nice skin. I give myself facials.

I give myself. Eddie has the best skin here. Look at his skin. He's got beautiful skin. Come on. What are you talking about? How old are you? And look at how full his mouth is You've had a lot of work done Let's go easy, B You've had a lot of work done

What if it's bow ties? Thank you Thank you If you're serious I am serious I know this is how fucked up we are If you're serious I am

You have skin Maybe you're just being gay with me Because you want to be funny. Well, both. But you do look good. Miranda backed up his feet. Well, thank you. Miranda got back to his feet and needed a body.

He's exhausted. I'm turned on as well. That helps. Your hands. Look at the size of them. You could probably do anything. Oh! Oh!

I got in there. Over the top. You better not hold me down. Jesus, Miranda taking down, controlled, still throwing head kicks. Shoot, Kamozi. Miranda's going for it, man. Oh, shit. Wrestle him.

This is a frantic fight. That's another thing. Here's another thing to take into consideration. Time limits. Time limits for rounds. They impose a different style of fighting. More sense of urgency. Better entertainment.

Better entertainment. But are we sacrificing reality for entertainment? I don't know if it would make better fights. I think you actually, under barriers, under confines and boundaries, you can still have the same kind of excitement or maybe more excitement. Listen to me. Football fields, one 30-minute round. But if the goal is reality. Football fields, one 30-minute round.

Hey, come on, man. Dude, that's ridiculous. You're out of line, dude. You're crazy. This is too much. You're crazy. No, I'm a visionary. You want like the Hunger Games shit.

I'm a visionary. A football field. A football field. If you want reality, you throw like trash cans in there and hookers. No, no, no, no, no. And like bombs laying on the side. I'm not looking for reality. I'm looking for the least amount of variables possible.

And you can pick up certain weaponry. Like a car antenna, like an old car antenna. It's like an alley. The stage is an alley and that's where the fight is done. No one in reality trains for a street fight for six weeks. We're not talking about reality. Not at all. We're talking about the purest form of the competition.

Dude, Frank Mir on our podcast said that he would never, he just recently started warming up because he considered a fight in the octagon. He was looking at it as practice for a real street fight. Yeah, well, Frank Mir's a maniac who walks around like an armed fucking weapon. Yes. Straight up. Very ready for the zombie apocalypse. He's one concussion away from doing some crazy shit i think all of us would be running for the gun store frank would be like i've been

ready i've been waiting for this moment my whole life great guy is the best way to capital capital in that sense i do love him as soon as i said that i was like well he is a great guy i love frank mirror can't have 60 guns on you, though. Yes, you can. And fight Frank Mir. Even one is... Oh, look at this. Kamozi with the uppercut. Miranda tries a wheel kick.

This is a crazy fight. We're missing it. Frank Mir is the most dangerous man on the planet. I'd be going nuts right now. Yeah, Frank Mir. You know, one thing I really worry about, that all the years of yelling in the UFC have strengthened my vocal cords.

My vocal cords will get out of shape if I stop commentating. No, because you're doing stand-up. Or will you get tired? Or will they blow out? I will get out of shape if I stop commentating. Or will they blow out? I don't know. But the yelling is a fucking 100% natural. I don't even realize I'm doing it until it's out of my mouth already. You've never lost your passion for the fight.

I just don't know. I just keep screaming. I don't know how many times I've said this, but just yesterday I did a podcast with Nick the Tooth I did his podcast I love that dude anytime you come up I got more wine I got two more bottles

you got cheese too I lay it on thick for ten minutes how much better of a commentator you are than anybody out there he's the best no one even fucking comes close. Brian Stan's good. Kenny Florian's good.

I like him. There ain't no Rogan there. But there ain't no Rogan out there. That's very nice. You can't throw it down like you. You can't. Because he has personality and knowledge. When you start talking, when you guys start talking about UFC, I feel like I'm a fucking

beyond, lower than an amateur. You feel like that smart chicken. I'd have let you guys talk. Holy shit, you guys retain a lot more than an amateur. You feel like that smart chicken. I just let you guys talk. Holy shit! You guys retain a lot more than I do. Well, I have only UFC in my head. I don't have any other... No, you got kickboxing and boxing

like a motherfucker. When are you watching this shit? How are you watching Game of Thrones and all that? Doing podcasts three times a week. And then have a neurosurgeon on. You got a family and kids that you spend a lot of quality time with.

Yeah. He's part of the Illuminati. How the fuck are you watching kickboxing and boxing? He's a robot. And Bellator and all that shit. Here's how I look at it. What the fuck is going on here? Do you sleep?

Yeah, I sleep. I feel like he has some supplement we don't know about. If I have the option of sleeping eight hours a night and not watching fights or sleeping six hours a night and watching fights, I'll take the six hours. I watch two hours of fights and then I go to sleep. Is that what you do?

I love it. You watch fights before you go to sleep? All the time. Holy shit, I never do that. All the time. I have everything. I fucking never do that. I have everything. I fucking never do that. I have everything.

I watch conspiracy theory documentaries. Oh, see? That's why I'm... Well, that's fucking weird. That's why you're paranoid and I'm happy. And you're fucking violent. You're out there killing bears and shit. You're like, fuck the octagon.

I need to fucking kill gigantic monsters. That's how I get my meat, sir. Do it for meat, sir. Do it for meat, sir. Ethical meat acquisition, sir. I'm eating bear. I'll cook you some bear. That's what it is. You'll like it.

This motherfucker watches two hours of fights every night. No wonder he's killing bears. No wonder. It all makes sense now. You're killing elk. I always want to watch smaller organizations. You're like, fuck a wrestler. I want a fucking bear.

I want a fucking bear fuck a wrestler they when they you want you want to kill the motherfucker they refer wrestlers to

you're a bear you're like a bear you're like fuck him I want the real bear it's not even close 30-27 it's a wrestler you can't

but Kamozi powerful Kamozi great fucking win very nice very nice you know what man You watch boxing and everything This is what I'm attracted to

Holy shit I just go with what I'm attracted to Holy shit I love watching Muay Thai I've been watching a lot of Muay Thai lately Do you go on waves though? Yeah I go on waves I go on waves

And then I have to do that boxing So for like two weeks I was balls deep in boxing Which is so much fun man But then I'll take a break from fighting Then then I'm balls deep in cars. Well, dude, I will go days and days watching hours and hours of archery every day. I'll watch hour and hour of dudes shooting arrows every day.

Hey, sir, that's weird. That's fucking weird. Well, it is weird until you start shooting things with bows and arrows. And you realize, like, you got to be really good at archery to kill a fucking elk. You're going to be really good at killing an elk. It's game over, son. When the shit hits the pan, I'm going to go find Joe Rogan. Really?

I know. You're going to be my fucking master. I'll show you how to get meat. We're going to Joe Rogan's fucking house. Well, I'm not doing it for that reason, but I know how to do it. I can tell you where animals would likely be more than most people. You will be my leader. And you listen to hunting podcasts on the winds of Iowa for six hours.

No, not just listen to hunting podcasts. You look at my podcast, like all my podcasts, it's all like antlers and skulls and shit. All of it. Of course the fighting the kids on there. Gentlemen, I'm so honest. I'm with you guys all the time. I'm not listening to your shit. I'll start criticizing.

You're going to lead the most powerful apocalyptic crew ever. I'm going to lead them right to the Yellowstone where the fucking super volcano is going to blow. I'm like,

we want to be like right there when it blows. I'm so sorry to get out of here. Guys, I'm so sorry to interrupt. You can. Guys, I'm just gonna get the fuck out of here. I'm so sorry to interrupt. No, Joe, you can't go to Joe's. He looks too far. I'm just gonna keep, because you gotta, you know, if you're gonna be a leader, you need to get them legs locked together, you know what I mean?

It's true. I'm gonna bring you in. I'm gonna update you on all that shit. We need some in the whole pads, too. You know what I mean? But I ain't hunting, you know what I mean? Oh, dude, you say that, but you would like it. You're gonna pay me in privates. Okay. I want elk meat.

Here's the good thing. An elk is 400 pounds. There we go. If you kill an elk, it feeds. We all go to my show. I got two commercial freezers back there filled with elk meat. You got that sausage back there? I need more.

Yeah. What's up, dog? Is it frozen, though? I need more. Dog? Is it frozen, though? Yeah, it's frozen and solid. Oh, no, the other stuff.

I might have some. Do we have any of the elk, the summer sausage that's not frozen? Gentlemen, we're drinking a bell. Probably all frozen. I'll be drinking a bell. I'll just stab him, motherfucker. You don't want to stab. They just tweeted that.

What? Mayweather, Connor, live on pay-per-view. Mayweather just tweeted that? It's supposed to be in November. It doesn't have a date. Oh, my God. So check this out. Is this serious?

Yes. Check this out, Joe. So I was with the boxing community this past weekend. This is for real? This is for real. This is happening. Investors, investors in Mayweather's camp. When did you know about this?

When did you find out about this? Last night. Investors in Mayweather's camp, they're like really big in this promotion. Right. Say it's going to happen in probably November. And they don't know shit about MMA. They're like, oh, do you know Conor McGregor? I'm like, I should slap the fuck out of both of you.

Oh, my God. This is insane. I think Dana White, Matt, Sarah, and you know Conor McGregor? I'm like, I should slap the fuck out of both of you. Oh, my God. This is insane. I think Dana White, Matt, Sarah, and Nick Latour just wrote a bull. Yeah, they did write a bull. Jesus Christ. Yeah, Dana, they're going to do stand-up on Sunday night at the Laugh Factory. You're on the show, right? I guess so, yeah.

I couldn't be on it because I'm ramping up for my special in a few weeks. You big time. Well, they want me to come in. You big time. I do Brea. No, I'm doing Brea. I'm doing the improv. I have two sold-out shows. I'm coming in on me to come in. I do Brea. No, I'm doing Brea. I'm doing the improv. I have two sold

out shows. I'm coming in on Saturday to help them, I guess. It's a good idea. You going to help anybody more than anybody else? You going to throw anybody any fucking fake advice? Sure, why not? No, I'll help both. Make sure you jack them off for me, too. I would

not want to be in an incel contest with Matt Serra. I think Matt Serra is probably going to be really good at stand-up. Dana White is super used to public speaking, and I think Nick the Tooth does a lot of drugs, so this should be a lot of fun. That could be weird. Plus, Nick is like an open-minded, very smart dude who does jiu-jitsu.

Really smart guy. I think the Tooth is one of the coolest fucking guys I've ever met. He's one of the best guys ever. He's a sweetheart. He's so goddamn cool. He's so cool. Never met ever. He's a sweetheart. He's so goddamn cool. He's so cool. Never met him. He's a sweetheart.

You'll like him right away, man. He's real smart and open-minded. He's a really interesting cat. I like him. And he's really good at jiu-jitsu, too. I'm psyched to help him. He's like a high purple belt level, right? He's in tremendous shape.

He's in his 40s. He's my age. Yep. Tremendous shape. Really careful with his diet. He's tight with Jafa Mendes. They're like bros and shit. Dude.

And he trains with him. What is just a nice guy, man? The Mendes brothers are so fucking technical. God damn it. I went on a jujitsu rampage like a couple months ago and I watched a lot of Hoffa. One of those phases? I watched a lot of rolling. I watched him roll with, it was him or Guy, who rolled with Jake Shields, where they put a video of it online.

It was Hoffa. Hoffa. And Hoffa was just impenetrable. Impenetrable off his back. And then once he swept Jake and he got his back, I'm like, Jesus Christ. You're seeing just this laser, samurai-shored scalpels, fucking sharpness of technique. Fascinating to watch this is like small guy not small but i mean in comparison to jake i mean jake's probably 190 and a pretty strong style in 80s yeah yeah

high 180s and maybe half as like 160 right what would you say walk around walk around this movie around. This movie looks scary as fuck, by the way. Yeah, 160. But he does Abu Dhabi 145 same day weigh-in. So not a big guy. He's not a big guy at all. But he's strong like a big guy. I've seen roles with him and Andre Galvao. He's world class. Andre Galvao's like 200 pounds. World class. And Hoppa's right there.

You can't pass Hoppa's gut. De bomba. De bomba. De bomba. On bomba. De bomba. De bomba. On that Brazilian beef jerky. Well, you know what, man? There's strength that you develop from repetitive technique.

If you look at someone's body, there's a dude. Here's a perfect example. Michael McDonald. You know that dude. Fights in the UFC. He's 21. Maybe he's 22 now. A youngster.

Wicked knockout artist, man. Wicked. But if you looked at his body, you would never know. But there's a strength in his ability to execute particular techniques. Bang! He's just got that groove carved in his

synapses. And when he unleashes shots, man, they're just ferocious bombs. Bro. And you know, like, here's a perfect example. Hanayaya. Hanayaya's not a big guy but that motherfucker gets your neck and he's a fucking

squeeze. Bro. Sage Northcutt. He's a squeeze. He's got that squeeze. Bro. Think of Sage Northcutt. His dad at like six

had him fucking hiking up mountains with tires. He's 19. He's jacked. He's 19. But there's baby strength. Like there's like

there's 19 strength. He's talking about technique. No, no, no. Not compared to. He's jacked. He's at 19. But there's baby strength. Like, there's like, there's 19 strength. He's talking about technique. No, no, no. Not compared to like Randy Couture. Randy Couture's got I'm going to fuck you strength.

Yeah, yeah. That holds your wrist. All right. That holds your wrist. I'm going to fuck you. You know, those young guys just don't have that. Shane Carlin had that

all fucking day. Yeah. Well, Frank, Shane Carlin's also 285 pounds. But I mean, there's like some ridiculous grapple strength that certain dudes have, right? For sure. Jake Shields has that.

There's a squeeze to be developed in every choke. It's not just if you have a squeeze in one choke. How about Marcelo? Marcelo's a perfect example. No, Krohn Gracie. Krohn Gracie's Gracie. I think Brennan Schaub has that kind of strength. But Brennan's also a gorilla.

Yeah, but there's a thing about Krohn is that Krohn looks physically imposing. Like when Krohn doesn't have his shirt off, you go, when he has his shirt off, rather, you look at him and you go, well, that kid is obviously doing something. He's obviously doing some gymnastics. Yeah, but you were thinking his grip is like fucking ridiculous.

Ridiculous., my God. Dude, ridiculous. I saw Krohn. There's a video of him doing this shit on Venice Beach or Santa Monica Beach where he's swinging and flying to the air and catching the next bar and then swinging and flying to the air. See if you can find that, Jamie. He's also a dime piece.

Yeah, he's also a really good looking guy. He's also a very smart kid. Yeah. Yeah. He runs Krohn Academy there in Culver City. He's killing it. Very intelligent and principled. I've seen our boy over here take some pretty big heavyweights and do whatever he wants to. Okay, let off the gay stuff, buddy I'm just saying. Here's Krone. Here's Krone. Check this shit out. Watch this video. Yeah, this is in Venice But he's he does this shit on these bars. Like look at this. Don't wear your socks like that.

Fucking, why not man? You can wear your socks whatever the fuck you want if you're Krone Grac bars. Like, look at this. Don't wear your socks like that. Why not, man? You can wear your socks whatever the fuck way you want if you're Chrome Gracie. No, Joe. Dude, he is the lineage of the greatest fighter in the history of jiu-jitsu.

He's the son of the great Hickson Gray. He can wear those Marvin Hagler socks from the fucking 80s. The shit Marvin Hagler wore. Those are so terrible. They finally stopped

my hand show. He's thick. He's thick. He's thick in this, man. Who let him out there with those socks? Krohn's a bad motherfucker,

dude. Yeah, I can't wait for your socks. He's a bad motherfucker. Fuck yes. He's Jiu Jitsu.

One of the best guys ever. And here's the thing, man. Like, his dad is the greatest of all time, for sure.

His dad is like a legit, like, like a mystic, almost. Bro, his dad would roll in, all time, for sure. His dad is like a legit, like a mystic almost. Bro, his dad would roll in, I'll never forget this, the room full of the baddest dudes on the planet. UFC fighters, the who's who of jiu-jitsu. He walks in there.

It was like Mufasa. Even I bowed down and shit. Yeah, let me get on a knee. The one thing he has that most high-level jiu-jitsu players don't have when they're going to MMA, besides the good looks, is when you're talking about just pure jiu-jitsu, whether it's gi or no-gi, the full guard is totally optional. You don't ever need to develop a full guard

if it's just grappling. If you ever have someone in full guard and don't want to play, you open it up and you start playing butterfly guard or whatever. Full guard is totally optional. There's many great jujitsu players that just said, fuck playing full guard. I'm going to do some other shit. We're going to play open guard, De La Riva.

We start opening up and start swinging around. Never really engage in this full guard dimension that's completely optional. Gi or no Gi. No Gi. If you don't want to play full guard, if you don't want to develop a full guard, you don't have to. Just open up your fucking legs and then just start playing. But you know what, man?

You get it, Cal. But in MMA, I'm sorry. Let me just finish this real quick. But in MMA, it's the most important guard, full guard. It's the most important. You have to fucking play full guard when a guy is trying to smash your fucking face. Control distance. So now you're forced to play a guard.

You didn't have to play in grappling ever. And now in MMA. But Krohn is one of those rare jiu-jitsu guys that in his grappling, his full guard is his main weapon. So nasty. He gets dudes in full guard. That's his shit. If he watches gi grappling or no gi grappling, he wants to get you in full guard.

His guillotine is among the best. That's why he's doing good in MMA. Because in MMA, he's forced to play a guard that he wants to play anyways. Crono brought me in front of a ton of people. Super embarrassing. Super embarrassing. That's got to be rough considering he's like 170 maybe. Less, right?

We rolled for 25 minutes straight and we were like going back and forth. No one tapped. No one tapped. Getting ready for Metamorphs. And then it just came out of nowhere. Everyone standing up. I was all embarrassed. It's beautiful that he got you.

Hell yeah. You got to appreciate it. You know you're a gorilla. Yeah. Hey, I'm way bigger. Well, that's what y'all for sure. You gotta appreciate it. You know you're a gorilla. Yeah. That dude is 170. He can get you. Well that's what

for sure he was even 170. He was smaller than that when he submitted me. It doesn't matter. One of the most satisfying aspects ever.

One of the most satisfying aspects of Jiu Jitsu is that it's truly one of the only martial arts where a smaller more technical person

can overcome a bigger more powerful person can overcome a bigger, more powerful person. Unless Shane Carwin rolls in that motherfucker. That's a different gorilla. That's a different gorilla. He's the same size. But he's so far beyond.

But I guarantee you, if he got in there with Fabrizio Verdum and they were just grappling, Fabrizio would tap him. You know it, and I know it. Correct, sir. 100%. Fabrizio's going to tap him. And who's bigger, Fabrizio or Shane? Shane's bigger.

But it doesn't matter. Fabrizio's taller. tap him. And who's bigger, Fabrizio or Shane? Shane's bigger. But it doesn't matter. Fabrizio's taller. But there's a level. It gets to a certain level where the technique can overcome massive physical advantage. Call a pecking order. Dude, it's fucking... Look, our friend Cade. Cade is maybe one...

Great name. How much does Cade weigh? 135. Maybe 135. That motherfucker has put me in danger a bunch of times. Way smaller than me. He's 135? Locked me up in triangles where I'm like, oh shit, I'm going to have to tap to a dude

who's 70 pounds lighter than him. Go ahead and rampage him though, huh? Go ahead and rampage him. Okay, I could do that, but he's your friend. You're not supposed to do that. Well, I don't know him. But I mean, what I'm saying is that his technique, that someone like my friend Denny. Denny, my friend.

I don't know him. Denny's lighter than me. Denny taps me all the time. If Denny and I roll right now, I haven't rolled in a while, but if we were rolling, he would always tap me. He's better than me. Because even though he's smaller than me, someone's tapping him. People get, they're just better.

They're just better. Like Marcelo When I was watching Has anyone else You remember when Try this. But I was watching. Lines up with your weight. Has anyone else eaten this cheese? You remember when. So good. Try this. Try this. Have you been to.

Try this. Guys, we can't talk over each other. Sorry. Try this raw milk. Hold on. Has anyone else eaten this cheese? As guilty as it is. Guys, we're talking about the Brunello did Mochaccino, the 2010.

Why do you eat cheese? We're on the same diet. Yeah, because I'm not into it. All right. It's okay. I thought you were going to say, you didn't hear? He's looking away from you. I'm thinking about that poor little cow that's sitting there getting his tits sucked.

Not bad. What? No, he enjoys that shit. Otherwise, it builds up. They don't enjoy it. It's like, they have to keep him in a state where they're perpetually pregnant. Hey, here's a good fight. Tarek Safedine, who I love watching.

This is a very good fight. Rick Story, who's a goddamn gorilla. Well, he's been out for a grip. Yeah, where's Rick Story been? It's a long story. What? No! No!

No run! No run! Timing! No run! Out of the park. It was the weed. Too easy, brother. Too easy.

Timing. In the parking lot. That ball landed in the bed of a pickup truck In the parking lot My word Slam dunk alley That ball broke the window of a convertible That's like Archie Bunker type shit

It's a long story Safa Dean trying to avoid that takedown Callan get this fucking cheese out of my face You know what I mean? Is it that good? Yeah, it's that good. Give me a piece. It's so good you go, fuck you, cheese.

Fuck those cows and their suckly titties. I'll fuck that cheese right now. I will suck on those titties. I'll suck everybody's tits. What? Sorry, guys. Cheese gets me crazy. So does red wine.

Is this raw cheese? Fuck yeah, it's raw cheese. I don't pass around my milk. Only the best. Did you know they put Viagra in raw cheese? Yes. I got it at the gas station. They put that Rhino 7 in the cheese? I got't pass around my milk. Only the best. Did you know they put Viagra in raw cheese? Yes! I got it at the gas station. They put that Rhino 7 in the cheese. I got it in the Rhino column.

They put Viagra in everything. Yeah, the Rhino column. Why not? Just like sugar. Just put it in fucking everything. The sugar Rhino column. Just to get your boners. They have to list it. Six grams of Viagra. You're like, fuck it, that's six grams.

Like, shit. You know how crazy that was? You gotta cut down on your Viagra. You're like, fuck it, that's six grams. Like, shit. You know how crazy that was? You got to cut down on your Viagra. Think about that. Viagra-free food. That's crazy. We'd come back around, people would fight. There'd be Viagra conspiracies.

How the Viagra Association bought off Yale professors to prove that it was good for longevity and anti-cancer properties. It's good for endurance. And they came up with a blood pressure medication, something. What was it? Because it's illegal to take in the UFC or sports. I believe it was blood pressure. It opened up your capillaries.

And people were getting hard on. It's illegal to take in the Olympics. Oh, yeah. They need to make liquid Viagra. Yes, because it gives you more endurance. Viagra shots, right? How about that? You take fucking two shots.

Also, Propecia was for prostate cancer, and they were growing hair. And they're like, what the fuck's going on? Well, it was finasteride. You still taking that shit, too? Hold up. I am. Don't take it. It was a cardiovascular thing for its ability to lower blood pressure.

That finasteride shit? Yeah. Dude, that stuff's not good for you. How do you know? Because I took it, first of all, because I took it. And then when I got off, and Ari took it, and it made him depressed. Ari got severely depressed. Guess what?

I got off it, too. I got off it. You might be. Maybe you'd be more happy if you weren't on it. That stuff, I'm not kidding. That stuff is linked very directly to depression because it fucks with your body's ability to produce hormones. It suppresses dihydrotestosterone, which is a derivative of testosterone that causes you

to go to bald. And that is a part of your overall system. And when you suppress that one aspect of your system, it could fuck up your whole endocrine system. Hey, but Joe, is this sort of a weird whole endocrine is already like the same thing with I'd rather be sad with a lot of hair and happy with no hair okay well you and I are very different obviously but Joe don't you think Ari's the exception no super depressed no because it's a common use price common side of those of that no it's a common side effect I'm telling you Ari got off that shit and it changed him it changed him yeah but that's a

nice set of hair that might be anecdotal no no it kept his hair barely just like me it kept my hair barely and when i got off of it my body felt way better i had more endurance i was thinking i had chronic fatigue syndrome or something i was like why am i fucking tired all the time it's hard for me to muster up energy to work out. I was doing it all on willpower. I got off Propecia and my body was like, da-da-da! It felt 30% better.

I was like, this is ridiculous. It's like I've been on a drug for a while. Energy up, here it comes. I got off it too. I was on it for a while. I actually, I ran out. It's been about three months, but I'll go back on. It doesn't make me feel bad at all.

No, no, it's not about feeling bad. It's like overall, like, how long are you going to do it? 10 years? Eventually, it's got to cause something. Well, it keeps your prostate smaller. Yeah, for dudes who don't cum. You know, that's all about dudes who don't cum. What's that?

Do you know that jerking off, just jerking off and having regular sex is the best reducer of prostate cancer? That's what I heard. It's old dudes whose cum backs up inside them like old sewage and just stews up inside their drain pipe. No worries about jacking off. No worries over here. It rots its way through their pipes. Think if you took a bunch of hairy shits and left them in your toilet and what that would do to your pipes I feel sick man

It's hard to believe Why are they hairy man? I haven't been eating bunnies, why are they hairy? I'm not a coyote Just the shh, the hairs that are breaking off from your asshole God damn it God damn it I wax my asshole

How do you stop talking up? I shave it occasionally No, no When I shave my asshole it changes the way my farts sound Oh they clap? They sound like it's somebody else's fart You threw that fucking stick Stop jacking off. I shave it occasionally. I do. When I shave my asshole, it changes the way my farts sound. Oh, they clap? They sound like it's somebody else's fart. I take a clipper.

I take a clipper. Do you actually believe there's guys that are getting to a certain age and they just stop jacking off? Yeah. Depression. A lot of guys lose their testosterone. They can't. Guys definitely do.

100%. Eddie can't even accept it. I can't. Guys definitely do. Eddie can't even accept it. I can't. I can't. I can't accept it. Well, it's one of those weird things. I need proof. I think everybody fucking jacks off.

There's something weird. Way more than they should. Well, there's something weird. No. Yes. It's ridiculous. The slow, drawn-out no. No.

And then I have to keep up with it. I was like, no. We need to stop this. We need to stop. We need to start a movement. Hand, hashtag, and jerking off. Or slow it down. It's maintenance, man.

It keeps your body healthy. Oh, look at that take. Oh, somebody might get hurt. Slow down. He landed on his neck. Maybe not end it. Just slow it down. No, I think it's fine.

No, you can't slow it down. Oh, shit. Everyone's all aggressive. You gotta slow it down just a little bit. Powerful Terry Safdie. Pull it back just a little bit, Brandon. Safdie's rough, man. No, he think no you can't slow it down. Oh shit. Everyone's all aggressive It's a little powerful tear back just a little bit Brandon just half a names rough man No, he needs it needs maintenance. Just a little not that crazy Listen when you first of all Eddie you and I can't talk about him because he's got gladiator jeans Look at his body bodies like that are meant to come

He's supposed to be He's supposed to be shitting loads all over the land. Joe, why do you have a hard-on? I don't have a hard-on. I have a three-quarter. I got a half a chubby. Just sitting there. How tall are you?

Like 6'5"? 6'4". 6'4". You should cum. You should cum all the time. He's a 6'4 natural 240. Just shut the fuck up, everybody. Yeah. It's true.

You guys got to cum a lot. It's true. How about a guy has to cum? You don't want to run into the streets and just go fucking your neighbors. Give me a child. Give me a child. Let him shoot loads. I wish you were there last night to tell girls. Take my wife.

I want to raise your child. Listen to Rogan. I got to come. Don't be fucking weird. He's got to come. Stop. He has to. Safedine with Story on his back.

That's crazy. Safedine took Story down. Safedine trains with guys like Henderson. Henderson, yeah. Well, that's who he went to when he first started getting into the MMA game. He figured, fuck it, let me go to an Olympic wrestler and figure out how to stop this bullshit. Good clinch. Then he trains at Black House a lot, too, with Daniel Warren.

Well, you know, that fight with Nate Marquardt was a fucking excellent example of a guy who's got just, like, super fucking high-level technical striking. Fucked his legs up. Fucking high-level technical striking. Fucked his legs up. Nate was trying to eat it for a while, and then when you eat a few of those, you're like, oh, my God, I'm stuck in a pattern. And then you've got to break yourself out of the pattern. We've got to break yourself out.

You can't go against a high-level kickboxer like this and go, I'm just going to check him all night. Let me ask you this. Have you ever had a fight where you went into it and you were too relaxed? You were too confident? Oh, yeah. Are you asking me? Roy Nelson. Roy Nelson fight. Did you ever had a fight where you went into it, and you were too relaxed You were too confident. Oh, yeah, you asking Roy Nelson. Yeah, Roy Nelson fight But did you big knock fight that's way too relaxed one when that's a bad place to be it's like everybody wants to be super Confident, but you don't want to be too confident. I need the nerves obviously It's just it's it mean it varies with person to person from instance to instance just it's i mean it varies with person to person from instance to instance but i would think that you're almost better off being fucking terrified i agree and dealing with all the horrible feeling

because i remember on the taekwondo days whenever i felt like too good about things i didn't fight it never went good i fought like clumsy and i was too aware of what I was doing instead of being instinctive and and like real fast twitch and terrified yeah I hear you but but nobody wants to deal with that feeling that all all the day of the weigh-ins the day of the thoughts the fucking but it's also what makes makes you great and it's also what makes the experience of being victorious so better when you see a guy like Chuck Liddell Run around the cage and throw his arms back When he would roar like when he knocked out Tito or when he knocked out Bob I'm or do the same shit exactly Like you got to realize like that feeling doesn't just come from victory that feeling comes from all the

Turmoil and the did the fucking who knows what's going to happen. Darkness. You know where that feeling comes from when it comes to Chuck? He knew how much more. Look at that picture. God damn. Look at Chuck. Probably the best picture in UFC history. Oh my God.

You know how much pussy? Those trunks. He's like, you know how much pussy this is going to get me? That's true. That's the truth. Hey, Joe. He was an animal. But Joe, as good as the wins are when you're that scared, when you do lose, when you're like, yeah, what's going to happen?

You lose the worst way, those same fears, you're like, fuck going through that, man. Fuck that because you don't get the same payoff. Does that make sense? There's certainly that as well. There's certainly that as well. The lows are low and the highs are high. There's also guys where you start realizing the lows are coming repeatedly and it doesn't seem like There's also guys where you start realizing the lows are coming repeatedly,

and it doesn't seem like there's an escape for them, and you've got to realize what are the consequences of these lows. They're permanent. Like a really smart guy like Mac Danzig. Like when Mac Danzig decided to retire, he was like, that's a smart dude. He should have done it before that. Maybe, but it's hard to see when you're inside of it. Very few people, me included, can see themselves as well as other people can see you. Because we all have a certain amount of protective layers of ego and of narcissism.

Which is a professional fighter. Yeah, well, of anybody. Anybody that's trying to do good at anything. You have to have a certain amount of self-esteem and ego in order to pursue that goal. Because I'd say fighters are even more magnitude. For sure, for sure. goal and I'm gonna fight as well man for sure for sure well most most also most likely their motivation for getting in the first place is they had really low self-esteem at one point in time in life and fighting showed them the way out

right fight list so many fighters come from abusive backgrounds and stepfathers that were assholes and all that shit oh shit Safi Dean with the fucking question mark kick over the head oh that was story no story landed that kid no he didn't he didn't know safty and did and then he Oh shit, Safedine with the fucking question mark kick over the top. Oh, that was Story. No. Story landed that kick. No, he didn't. He didn't? No, Safedine did and then he turned him.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Which one of us is going crazy? Am I right? Who's going crazy? I don't know. Either way, it's that fucking cheese. Yeah. It's both. Damn cheese.

I'm going with the wine and the weed. This wine has turned. I'm going with the cheese. This 2008 Uco Leccio has turned. Have we gone through four bottles? Almost. Oh, we get loose tonight. Yeah.

Do we have to reimburse you for this? No. You know what? Bill is counting. You know what? Each of you throwing 200 bucks will call it even. No big deal. This probably cost a grip.

Is there anything worse? Listen, man. Brian Callen, you still haven't shot your bow once. I do. I keep asking. I got to come over. No, you definitely don't keep asking. I'm going to take a...

You occasionally... I keep asking. You occasionally throw a text out there. I throw a text. You don't get specific at all, and you don't get proactive even slightly. I need to start. So let's... No, no, no.

You keep texting, bro. Shoot this bow. No, no, no. Let's have a serious... He's harassing you. Let's have a serious talk right now. Let's be honest. I need to...

Let's be honest about how much you've... This is one of the things I decided. Because you kept telling me that you wanted to do archery. You wanted to get into bow hunting. So I said, okay, what I'm going to do is I'm going to give Brian a bow. And I'm going to let... We'll see how proactive he gets with this. And it really hasn't panned out.

Dude, look at me. I'm going to tell you something. I gave you a nice point. He's not a hunter. Listen to me. He's not a hunter. Yes, I am. You shut up. He is a hunter. me. I gave you a nice... Joe, he's not a hunter. Listen to me. He's not a hunter. Yes, I am. You shut up.

He is a hunter. You're wrong. You stay out of this. He's not a hunter. I've seen Brian kill animals. Yes. I've seen Brian kill and butcher deal. But Brian is a good shot.

He's a fucking calm dude under pressure. Just because he's good at it doesn't mean he likes it. Listen, Brian's crazy as fuck, and I love him to death, but that dude stays calm on the trigger. Let me tell you something. If I needed somebody to shoot for me, he's one of my number one picks out of a guy.

Because he's so fucking crazy, he can keep it together under pressure. Is that crazy? Brian Callen can fucking, there could be armies running in Brian's direction. I guarantee Brian will shoot as good as he would if there was no one watching. There's no doubt about that because I've been going through that my whole life in my head.

He's crazy. He's crazy. In a weird way. He's a smiling guy that knows how to shoot. Yeah, that's true. In a weird way. Now, listen to me. Look at me.

I'm telling you right now. 100%. I'm coming over. That's us in Wisconsin. I'm coming over. Oh, that's the dude we met in... Yeah, it's Doug Duren. How much fun do we have?

He's a great guy. Doug Duren is one of the best human beings that's ever walked the face of the planet. We had a great meal with him and his wife. He's a gem of a person. You know what his wife drew? She's a painter. She was like, how beautiful is this painting? It's a painting of him on a cell phone like this.

She goes, is this how we have dinner? He's like this, looking at his phone. Powerful first light. How much fun did we have dinner? He's like this looking at his phone. Powerful first light. How much fun do we have here? We were laughing so hard. How beautiful is my first light camo? Ah, it's beautiful. Yeah, we were talking about shit on a stick. There's a mold that looks like shit. We barely paid attention

to any of these fights. Meanwhile, Rick Story and Tarek Safdie have been going to war. And we're like those assholes in the fucking first row that are drunk that are barely paying attention to the fight. Dude, I swear to God, look at me.

Eddie Bravo's going back in. Goddamn, man. You're about to go another dimension, brother. There needs to be a vegan hunting show where they get a vegan that goes out in the wild.

I'm coming in this week. I don't want to see any crying on TV. Look at me. I'm coming in this week to shoot. Okay. They hunt for wild

edible plants. What about that? That's a terrible idea, Eddie. What about that? They hunt for wild edible plants? Well, I think there's going to be a real problem

soon with plant intelligence where they're understanding things about the way plants communicate with each other. I don't eat plants. They're not much different than, look,

octopus, it's really super arguable that we probably don't eat plants. They're not much different than, look, octopus, it's really super arguable that we probably shouldn't eat octopus. Right. Because octopus are as smart as shit. They're really cool. They can read your facial expressions, right? Well, not only that, they communicate through the texture of their skin. They have ink that they blast in front of things so they can get the fuck away.

See ya. Are you saying octopus is like spinach? Because I'm going to freak out. Guys, we can't talk over each other. Oh, I'm sorry. Someone has to just back off. You got this, Eddie? I was just wondering if octopus was like spinach.

What do you mean? Because you're saying there's a real good argument between the plant life and how smart a plant is. I'm good. I'll get really weird. Smoke that. No, I'm good, Doug. Don't be scared.

I'm talking about spinach and octopus right now. If you want to be a podcaster, there's certain things you have to do. If you want to be with us. If you want to get so high, you say stupid shit. Be'll get really weird. Smoke that. No, I'm good, Doug. Don't be scared. I'm talking about spinach and octopus right now. If you want to be a podcaster, there's certain things you have to do. If you want to be with us. If you want to get so high, you say stupid shit. Be with us, bro. Be with us. Watch this, bro. So what were you saying about octopuses and spinach?

Oh! Well, you were saying there's a real argument about plant life, how smart they are. Because vegans say, oh, well, we eat plants, right? Well, yeah. Well, the argument is that we're starting to understand that plants communicate with each other in a very strange way. Don't eat octopus. They have more genes than you.

Dude, I love a nice octopus. Food advice from the Guardian. Whoa. Tastes delicious. No, no, no. Not to eat. Apparently so as people. Do you have those chickens as friends?

Yeah. I'd like octopus as friends. Plants react slower but the same way, don't they, a lot of times? They do calculations. Here's what's weird about plants. They do calculations and they communicate with each other in this weird way. Like here's a perfect example. An acacia tree.

If an acacia tree is upwind or, yeah, it's upwind and animals eat it like a giraffe eats it, the wind goes down and the wind goes down, hits the other acacia trees, and they change the way they taste. What? They become bitter. What? In fact, there's a problem with animals that are downwind of a constant breeze

where they literally can starve to death because they won't eat their preferred food because it tastes bad. Oh my God. You have more reason to fuck those plants up. How about that? Yeah. How about that?

There's all sorts of weird communication going on also with the ground itself because we look at the ground as being just dirt, but it's not. It's full of organisms. It's an ecosystem. It's filled with all sorts of different things. And most importantly, here's a big factor, decomposing plant and animal material

which gets absorbed into the ground. Like when we plant food, when you plant vegetables and things like that, you have to add minerals to the soil. You have to add minerals to the soil. You have to add fertilizer to the soil. Right. For most lands, because we've depleted the minerals in the soil.

But when you go to the woods, no one's adding shit. Okay? What's happening is things are decomposing. They're recycling. Animals are decomposing. Bodies, all sorts of things that are left behind are decomposing. Yeah. I mean, it's legitimately what it is.

And plants need that as much as they need water. There's like this constant thing going on. So without animal life and animal life dying, these plants are not going to exist. Life is life. And they're existing, eating this weird fucking ground and then water. And then they're breathing in oxygen and spitting or breathing in carbon dioxide and spitting out oxygen. Dude, how about the Venus flytrap? Oh, yeah.

The thing's... Hey, man, that's a plant. It's flies. How about the one on the Amazon that eats rats? God damn. There's a plant that eats rats? There's a plant that eats rats. Fuck off.

No way. Jamie? Jamie? Jamie knows what to do. Jamie? We played this a dozen times. There's a fucking plant on the Amazon that honey dicks, rats, and a freak out to fall inside of it.

It's a honey dick plant? And it closes up on it. It's this fat, crazy... Look at this. Oh, come on. Look at this rat. Oh, it's that cute little mouse. Just sweat this.

Sweat this hole. Watch what happens. Oh, that's a rat, bitch. Oh, it's sweet in there. Exactly. It's sweet. It's sweet. And it's slippery.

And this mouse is fucksville. Now, that mouse is not getting out? Never. They get eaten. Oh, that's a Venus fly's sweet. And it's slippery. And this mouse is fucksville. Now, that mouse is not getting out? Never. They get eaten. Well, that's a Venus flytrap. Yeah. Oh, shit. They get frogs now.

Come on. Fuck flies. Come on. Fuck flies. They're getting frogs now. Hey, so did that rat go down that hole and never come back? Yeah, that rat's dead, son. That rat went to rat heaven.

So that rat went in there. A plant that eats frogs. I don't know. It's like the little shop of horror. How do we know? I don't know about that. What are you talking about? This is a fucking video. You just want a trick photography.

I think it's bullshit. No, no, no, no. That could be bullshit. What if that is bullshit? What if that is propaganda? Fucking lies. Yeah, it's propaganda. It's just a hate plant.

What is this, Jamie? Y'all fucking lies. Jamie, what is this? Same plant. What is it eating? That's a little rat, I guess. I can't see shit. It's hard to see.

It's a weird photo. Oh, I see. The rat is stuck in there. Oh, no. He's like, oh, snap. It's over. That's a little rat house. Why the fuck?

That's a rat house? Yeah, it's a rat house. That's his crib. That's a rat crib. There ain't no rat. No, why the fuck is a plant eating rats, though? Because it wants to digest it? Look, it gets nutrients from it the same way it gets nutrients from decomposing plant or animal matter that gets into the ground.

Fucking plants. What I was going to say is all of the fertilizer that we use today, it has to have nitrogen in it because that's one of the key components. But a lot of what it is, especially when people make compost, that's the best. When people throw their food waste in and then they throw worms and leaves and everything sort of decomposes. Yeah. And that stuff decomposes and you can use that in your garden. And that's like one of the best ways of sort of replenishing the nutrients in the soil. You do that shit.

Damn. Then you hang out with the chickens. Yes. I compost. I grow. Then you hang out with chickens. Rick's story is just one. Yes, I compost, I grow vegetables, and I hang out with chickens. But it makes me happy. It's doing the damn thing. It makes me happy. When I eat a salad, when I eat some tomatoes that I grew, it makes me happy. It makes me feel good.

It feels good. It's a weird way. No, it's cool, man. When I take Propecia, it makes me feel good. It's fun. It's a weird way No it's cool man When I take Propecia It makes me feel good

It's a fun It's one of those things That I think It's like Have you ever caught fish before No yeah There's a crazy thing I grew up fishing

When you catch a fish You're like oh shit Oh shit Like you get excited Apparently there's also A similar reaction to people That are If you're a

A bug collector Like a Moth collector. Yeah, not my friend. Butterfly collector. Yeah, not my friend. I don't have any friends who do that. But there's something because human beings for a long period of time were apparently

insectivores. Rick Story won that fight. Oh, we barely paid attention. That's outrageous. We barely paid attention. I love when we do that. Oh, what? What is that, Jamie?

A horse about to eat a snake? Oh, a chicken. A horse eats a chicken? Son of a bitch. Oh, my God. Let it roll. Let it roll. Oh, my God.

It eats a chick. Oh, see ya. It consumes it. That is crazy. A horse just ate a chick. Oh, fuck. With those dull-ass teeth? Wow.

Squished them like a cat-berry egg. Oh, no. That's so crazy. We were brainwashed to believe they were herbivores. Well, they are for the most part, but when they get a chance to eat chicks What if they chicken move the fuck out of the way Wow? That's like your smart chicken. Just a baby chicken. I can't run away. That's the smart one. It's a little ground grouse That's crazy. Isn't it? Where'd you find them?

I forget where I saw but I just makes me sick. Oh my god Well, have you ever seen deer chase birds and eat them? What the fuck? No. Not only that, there's a... Yeah, deer eat birds regularly. Not only that, there's a fence that was put up, and it was one of these weird nettings, and birds got stuck in the netting, and deer were eating the birds out of the netting.

Some evil-ass deer. Damn. The birds just couldn't differentiate between the hole and the string and they ran right into it and got stuck. Dumbass. And the birds, the deer just ate them. And they just needed the protein or something. They don't give a fuck about birds.

That's what's really going on. They're not Bambi. No, it just looks like food. We have a real problem in this country and Disney's fucked our brains from the time we were babies. I love a deer. Juicy nose. Friendly.

That's why I can't hunt him. Yeah. You gotta get over that pussy. Nah, man. I'm trying to kill bears, dog. I'll call what you're gonna kill. Do you say beers? B-E-A-R.

I have a speech impediment, Eddie. We know this. What were you saying, Eddie? No, no. What did you mean? I don't even know if you say bears or beers. You know, the grizzly kind.

Oh. I thought you meant I'm trying to kill bears. He says beers. For real? Yes, for real. Okay, let's do it. Not with an arrow, though. I want a bear hunt? For real? Yes for real. Okay let's do it Not with an arrow though I need a gun. Hold on No problem. You'll set it up? 100%

Tell me when. I just set it up with Aubrey Aubrey wasn't successful. I know Aubrey texted me I have to now. Okay we're in I don't approve. This is what we'll do We'll do an August bear hunt With rifle. Fuck yeah The three of us. You guys, you pussies can use a rifle I'm gonna use a bow.

You have a rifle I can borrow? This week I'm coming over to do some bowing. I got two rifles. You guys can both borrow my rifles. I'm coming over this weekend. You got a machine gun? I got a lot of shit. I'll use that. I got a lot of problems in my head. But I'm ready. I'm ready, Doug. I'm so ready. I'm so fucking ready.

I'm so ready. You and Tim Kennedy just ready. Me and Tim Kennedy Nothing's ever gonna happen But this This camp That we would go to In Alberta My friend

John and Jen Rivett They're fucking awesome Human beings And their place is amazing And they have giant bears What kind of bears? Like the edge bear? No but black bears

And there's grizzlies Up there too I saw a grizzly I saw a grizzly Not where we were hunting But but near it on the way. I saw lynx. I saw many moose, mule deer. All Achilles, right?

Yeah. So I'm in. Well, you got to do them during certain times. Well, we're in the bear time. Perfect. And here's the thing about bears. It actually does help the population because they eat babies. They eat cubs.

Okay. So if you kill the big boars, it actually is good for the population. That's all I need to hear. Yeah, it sounds counterintuitive. That's all we need to hear. As long as I have a reason, then I'll do it. I'm doing conservation. It's like child services.

Well, it's a side effect of hunting. Fuck a bit. Here's one thing. My friend Ben O'Brien pointed this out this weekend. He's a good buddy of mine. He used to write for Peterson's Hunting Magazine. He's a super intelligent guy, and he came hunting with us. And one of the things that he said is that

conservation is a side effect of hunting. And until we're honest about that, people are going to always have this argument against us or against people that hunt. Because people like to say that hunting is conservation. It is, but it's a side effect of hunting. You really want to hunt because you want meat.

Yeah, you're not trying to help. But then there's people that hunt and they don't even really want meat. I knew a dude who used to hunt all the time. He hated wild game. He hunted constantly. Just to kill. He liked to kill. He was a real problem dude. He's got other...

But there's something about hunting... But there's something about hunting but there's nothing about hunting when you wake up in the middle of nowhere and you're walking through like in alaska there is something very primordial and very interesting about like not knowing what you're going to see around the next corner well when you and i would did that that island in alaska is one of my two of my favorite times as a human being yes god is when damn. Is when we were in Montana and when we were in Alaska. Yes. We laughed so fucking hard. And miserable. Did you guys kill

anything? Well, we did in Montana. We both did, but in Alaska, neither one of us did. Joe, how long would the bear hunt be? Well, the bear hunt I just did was three days of hunting. I can do three. One day of travel on each end, so it was a five day hunt, and I was unsuccessful. My friend Cameron Haynes shot a seven foot eight bear. God damn. I was telling you guys about it before. We ate that bear, by each end, so it was a five-day hunt, and I was unsuccessful. My friend Cameron Haynes shot a seven-foot-eight bear.

God damn. I was telling you guys about it before. I just want a rug. We ate that bear, by the way, and it's fucking delicious. What about the rug? Are you going to make a rug from it? Oh, we're going to have to pay for our scissors for the rug. No, no, we'll both go.

You use every aspect of the bear. But the thing about bears is they do two things. One, they eat cubs, like all of them. 100% of them are cannibals. That's all I need to hear. They all come out. Not only do they come out of hibernation, they come out of hibernation looking to get a cub. All of them. 100% of them are cannibals. That's all I need to hear. They all come out not only do they come out of hibernation, they come out of hibernation looking to get a cub.

Stone cold killers. Because cubs are easy so they go into dens because the females tend to sleep later than the males. And it's something that's set up because nature knows they don't have any predator. Nature's like a complex but really efficient system. And nature realized that these things are bears.

Nothing can fuck with them other than them. So what it did is it made the men cannibals. Where it's very different from wolves. See, wolves, a wolf could have a battle and get killed by a mountain lion. There's videos online of wolves getting killed by a mountain lion. A really recent one that Jamie

and I played the other day of a mountain lion killing a wolf. Where the guy had the light on it? Yes, exactly. You've seen it? I didn't see it. Mountain lions are just way more gangster than wolves. Wolves can suck mountain lion's dicks all day long. That's a given, though, right?

A mountain lion is like Kevin Randleman in his prime, and a wolf is like a 14-year-old girl in a fucking McDojo karate class at a strip mall. Because a wolf has its mouth. That's my favorite analogy of all time. But there's a mountain lion eating a wolf. He's just killing a wolf with his fucking face. Cats are just as gangster.

Who the fuck is that guy? Cats are as gangster as any animal that's ever lived. They kill crocodiles in the Amazon. The tiger kills a croc. But surely you've seen these jaguars kill crocodiles. Surely you've seen that. No, I've only seen a tiger do it. Please.

No, that was a jaguar. Hey, Joe, you might hate me on this. It's hard to tell. Look at that. He's killing a wolf with his face. Cats are so gangster. They don't fuck around. And he's not even moving.

He's not freaking out. He's barely breathing. He's just slowly killing that wolf. And by the way, the puma, and that's what you're looking at, the puma is considered the most athletic of all cats. Yes, you're correct. Next to a house cat. By the way, they say if a house cat was as big as a puma, the house cat would be running

shit. Yes, it'd be eating you too. I'm not a cat guy, man. I'm allergic to cats. I know. It's weird. Love them. It's the one thing I don't like about you.

I love them. Never knew. Never had a cat. I don't trust cat guys. I love them. But I trust you. I have two cats and I feel you. You know what? I feel cats. I know, it's weird. Love them. It's the one thing I don't like about you. I love them. Never knew. Never had a cat. I don't trust cat guys. I love them. But I trust you. I have two cats and I feel you. You know what?

I feel you. You know what, man? The one thing I gotta appreciate about cats, though, is- Look at that! Hold on. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this jaguar sneak up on a crocodile!

Dog! Jack that motherfucker! He eats crocodiles! Suck it! Fuck. Yeah. Come on, son. Uh-oh.

Look at the creep Don't fuck with Jags you guys on the shit Jags are no joke. Oh my god They're about 250 pounds by the way so scary This won't swayed me towards liking cats cuz you can't be like oh my house cats look like this What's their water their water crocodile swims out their water baby? And he swims out to this little fucking island yeah, and the Jaguars yeah You big lizard war you bully creepin through the water and super slow-mo Swims out to this little fucking island. Yeah. And the jaguars are right behind him. Look at the jaguar.

You bully lizard. Look at the jaguar creeping through the water in super slow-mo. Watch this shit. Too late. Bitch. Too late. Get the fuck over here, bitch. Too late.

He carries them off? Yeah, he carries them the fuck off. He carries them off like you would carry a roll of toilet paper. Look at him. Through the water. God damn it. Everyone's watching the video We can't show this

He took him in the water We can't show this He took him in his house You can't show what? You can't show the end? Dude he grabs him And drags him back And he's not even dead yet

And he throws him back in the water He knows it's not gonna make it Where's the rest of the homies? He controls that body so well That he just swims across The goddamn river Eddie If you got a 10 year old boy

In a headlock Do you think you'd be worried About swimming with him? Yeah fuck that kid. It could be a problem. It could be a problem. I'm not a Mexican. Dude, those fucking jaguars are so gangster.

Super gangster. They're so gangster. I saw a tiger do that. So with bears, because they don't have natural predators, nature has developed this really dark, dark system where the males eat the babies. So the struggle is constantly the males trying to eat other babies in order to bring the woman back, the female bear, back into estrus so he can mate with her and pass on his own genetics. And just the fact that it's hard to come by protein because they run fairly quick, but they don't run as quick as deer. So the only deer they get to eat realistically are the babies or the injured ones.

It's mostly fawns. So they say that bear in Alberta eat 50% of all moose calves and deer fawns. Got to kill them. When we were in Alaska, we saw a female bear with her cub. And I can't remember, Jan, what was his name? Janice. Janice Patelis. Janice said that probably what was going on was she was keeping him in the highlands,

her baby away from the males who had gone down. Yeah. She was keeping him up high way too late in the season just to try to protect his life because the males eat him. So you're saying Mother Nature's a motherfucker is what you're saying. Mother Nature's a motherfucker. Well, what I'm saying is that people who love animals, the sentiment is beautiful. But when you really try to let all your predisposed or your preconceived notions.

It's called your anthropomorphic tendencies. There's a little of that that's given to us. Well, it's not just anthropomorphic. It's also even the love of actual animals that are in your environment that are not trying to eat you. Like squirrels and birds and dogs and cats and pets that you and I both have, we both love. But there's a big goddamn difference between all of those things and then the wild itself which is this weird system yeah and this weird system wildlife biologists have studied this weird system over decades and they've concluded that there's some benefit to removing certain dominant males from the equation and that's what

you hunt right and that's it about Rhino you know yeah what's it well that's one of the reasons why that Cory Knowlton guy got off the hook, whereas the lion killer guy, the lion killer didn't. They were going to kill that rhino anyway, because that rhino was killing other male rhinos. So, Corey, in spending $250,000 plus to bid

on killing that rhino, fed like a hundred fucking families. Yes. Not only did he feed a hundred families, he gave $250,000 to conservation to protect the rhinos and killed a rhino they were going to have to kill anyway. Yes. Which helps out the rhinos. It helps out the rhinos. But it's so complicated

because you would think that if you love rhinos the last thing you'd want is some dude paying money to kill a rhino. You'd be like, that's ridiculous. Yeah. That's not what we want. Just education. But when you say hunting takes out the big males that kill all these things. That's what you hunt. How can you tell the difference? Just size? Yeah, 100%.

You tell by size, I tell by smell. Well, Brian has what's called game eye. I have game eye and game nose, you fucks. Meanwhile, Hennepin Burrell's about to fight Jeremy Stevens at the goddamn co-main event. By the way, Hennepin Burrell is a beast. I like saying obvious things like this.

Guys, Hanna-Barau is a good fighter. That's what I say when I work. This is, I got to be honest with you, this is the number one argument for me never doing commentary again. What do you got? Pod. This thing.

It's the best. It's the best. We're hammered. Because we're balls deep in cats. I'm going to say something really cheesy. I have an overwhelming feeling of kinship for all my friends here. I know it's cheesy,

but I love all you guys. Dude, there's a million. And I'm not drunk. I'm an overwhelming feeling of kinship for all my friends here. I know it's cheesy, but I love all you guys. And I'm not drunk. I'm just saying that. More than a million people. More than a million human beings are going to listen to this. And feel the same way. There you go. Jeremy Stevens and Hennon Burrell is a motherfucker of a fight. Because Jeremy Stevens is ready to throw

bombs super confident. And Hennon Burrell first time at 145 not knowing exactly how he's going to do against one of the best knockout strikers in this division. And Hennon Burrell, first time at 145, not knowing exactly how he's gonna do against one of the best knockout strikers in this division. And Hennon Burrell's more skilled. He's more skilled maybe. Don't say that. No, Hennon Burrell's a guy who will trade and take shots. Can you take a shot from Jeremy Stephens is the question. I don't know if anybody can. I don't either. Jeremy Stephens knocks out 155 guys. He knocked out the champ, Dos Angeles. Exactly, with a

ruthless uppercut. Jeremy Stevens is no joke. Probably the hardest hitter at 45. He's one of them. Easy, there's Conor McGregor, guys. I guess you've forgotten about the other two. Let me tell you something. Conor versus this guy.

Jeremy Stevens versus Conor would be fucking chaos. And don't be surprised if Jeremy Stevens wins. There's your fight if he wins this. Oh my God. I think Burau's going to beat Jeremy Stevens wins. There's your fight if he wins this. Oh my god. Look at this. I think Barau's gonna beat Jeremy Stevens. You better shut the fuck up. You have no idea what's gonna happen, neither do I. This is a fucking fight, man. I'm ready. Brian, no one knows what's gonna happen. I know exactly what's gonna happen. Oh! Oh, he just tagged him with a straight right. Nah, he's keeping his head down, guys. Incorrect. Hit behind the ear. Not a good place.

Stevens. Incorrect. That's so ob. Not a good place. Stevens. Incorrect. That's so obnoxious when somebody starts singing that you're wrong. I'm obnoxious. Incorrect. Hit behind the ear. There's very few things I'm allowed to be obnoxious about other than calling MMA. Oh, I told you. Top by Burrow.

Every time he hits him, I'm like, I told you. Jeremy Stevens, head like a brick, mind like a pit bull. Oh, tagged by that left. He got tagged. Burrow looks good. Burrow's, Burrow going to go, I told you. Jeremy Stevens, head like a brick, mind like a pit bull. Oh, he's tagged by that left. He got tagged. Burau looks good. Burau's, Burau's. Yeah, he looks great. Have we forgotten how good Burau is?

Well, he was without a doubt one of the best in the world at 135. And I think it's better for him at 145. It was too much of a beast for him to cut, they said. They said it always killed him. So, you know, he might be a monster at 45. How about him versus Aldo at 45? All we know, well, he would never do that. How about him versus Aldo at 45? All we know. Well, he would never do that.

You'd be surprised. You'd throw some Brazilian acai either way. I don't want them to. I don't want them to. I don't want friends to fight. I really don't. I don't like it. I'd be down for TJ Uriah.

I feel like it's kind of fun. Oh, Burrell with the takedown. Yeah, don't fuck around with Burrell. I feel like it's kind of fun that there's sacred things. I feel like it's kind of fun that some people just won't fight people. Jake Shields and those guys won't fight each other? The UFC doesn't think it's fun, though. I don't care what they think.

I know, but they make the match-ups, dog. I don't care. But my personal opinion, I mean, listen, I love every match-up. I call every match-up with love. I love them all. But I don't, personally, I know a lot of these guys. I don't want to see them fight their friends. Yeah, but if Hennepin Brown, all those fighting, you got to call it. Unless, this is what I want I don't want to see them fight their friends. Yeah, but if Hannah Brown, Aldo's fighting, you got to call it.

Unless, this is what I want to say, unless they want to fight their friends and they think it's okay. Juliana Pena is very close with Misha Tate. And apparently, Juliana Pena said, I would fight her for the title. And if she wins her next fight and I expect her to win, I'll fight her for the title. Oh, so you're cool with it. And they're cool with it. Yeah, because they're both cool with it, apparently. They realize it's business. That's life-changing, too. Yeah, and they're cool with it. And they're cool with it. Yeah, because they're both cool with it apparently. They realize it's business.

That's life changing too. Yeah, and they'll go back to being friends and being cool with each other. Where's Tim Kennedy and why is he not fighting? Tim Kennedy is still serving. Tim Kennedy is still involved in multiple things you can't talk about. But he's also trying to get a fight.

Yeah, but he would take a fight again. And you know, there's a legit problem. I don't want to start any noise, but Tim Kennedy's a very vocal critic of all sorts of different things. Listen, Tim Kennedy is a legit war hero. And you can't get legit war heroes to play games. No.

But also when they speak, it matters. You know what I'm saying? He's a critical thinker. He's not a hater. He's a critical thinker. He's not a hater. He's a critical thinker. At the highest level. He is. And at the highest level, every sport, every endeavor, every application of your own creativity

and your own ideals, whatever you're trying to pursue in this life, should be done to the highest level. So all criticism should be taken into consideration, whether it's valid or invalid. And a guy like Tim Kennedy, I think, is an important voice. He's an important voice because he's a legit human being. I mean, he's as legit as a man gets. He's the greatest American in the fucking UFC for what he does. He's one of them, for sure.

So when he speaks, everyone follows. For sure. And they should. They should. He's legit. I mean, I have legit, like, massive respect for that guy. Fair-minded guy. Yeah yeah and he's a smart dude and you know what you need people like that man don't think you don't because there's people like

that on the other side yep there's people like that in the world and ideally yes we would all love peace and love but occasionally you have to deal with assholes you know and you have to realize that there's religious zealots and crazy people talk to to the Yazidi women about ISIS and see how nice people are. And how badly they'd love to have a guy like fucking Tim. Ruthless dictators all throughout history, man. What'd you say about ISIS? Well, the Yazidis, what they did to that community in Iraq. The Yazidi women were always considered the most beautiful women.

They had fair hair, blue eyes, yellow eyes. I'm not hearing red hair and big tits. I don't even know what the fuck you're just saying. I'm serious. I'm serious. The Yazidis were fabits. I don't even know what the fuck you're just saying. Basically, what you're saying is the hottest... I'm serious. I'm serious. The Adzidis were fabled for their beauty. What about women? Milky white skin where you could see your whole handprint when you spank them.

Hey, man. Did you say that? I don't know. Hey, bro. Sir, I did not say anything like that. There's a lot of hot Iranian chicks, too. But if you didn't say that, I don't really know what you're saying. It doesn't compute.

I don't understand what you're saying. That part of the world has some of the most beautiful women on the planet. Lebanon, Iran. White-like paper with red nail polish. Yeah. Did you just say that? No, I didn't say that, sir. You're putting words in my mouth.

Did you say an ass-to-waist ratio? Yes. That's always very important. That leaves a man baffled for days. Like a sports guy. Ass-to-waist ratio. What is that? That'll kill you.

That'll stop a man in his fucking... That'll ruin your whole life. A buddy of mine was telling me about this girlfriend, this girl, rather, that he was dating, and they got to know each other, went out a few times, and one day they went back to her place. And her waist was too big, and it freaked him out. It's a problem. It's a problem.

I'm like, what the fuck? What's wrong with him? He's like, she's really cool, but her waist was too thick. I was like, what? He must have been a ladies' man. I know. she's really cool, but her waist was too thick. I was like, what? He must have been a ladies' man. I guess so. He must have been, yeah. But she wasn't even overweight.

It's just like he didn't like her dimensions. I've had that situation. I had a girl take her clothes off. What's a dude who gets way too much pussy? Hold on, hold on. What happened? I said I had a girl take her clothes off, and she had a hairy ass. I've talked about it before.

She was blowing me. Her asshole? Nope. Everything. I'm sorry, sir. She had a duck tail. Her cheeks. She had black hairs on her rump.

Like Orlovsky. Yep. And guess what I did? I faked a stomachache and said I gotta get out of there. I would have fucked her like she was a female werewolf. Well, after I came, I faked a stomachache. Like a people. I would have fucked her like I was trying to make her evolve.

Hey. I would have fucked her like I was trying to make her evolve. I was trying to help her bring her up past the Paleolithic. When you're younger, you don't give a fuck, right? I'll just dump some caveman loads in there. Just hair all over ass cheeks? Yep, that's right, my friend. I would just dominate her. She's a white girl? I didn't mind that, that's right, my friend. I was just... Dominator. And she had... She was a white girl? I didn't mind that,

but she had a huge dick. What did her breath taste like? A lot of cum. A lot of cum. Hey, she was a white girl, B? Yeah, and she had a big beard, but she was a great girl. Other than that,

she was a pretty, pretty girl. You can get past the dick and the beard. Other than that, I thought she was fucking a wonderful girl. I don't want to badmouth her, but I couldn't. We only did it for like six months. Is that the girl who had smelly feet too?

Yeah. Yeah, smelly feet. She wore diapers. Good jab. Look at his shit. That jab fucked him up. Imagine an animated cartoon of Joey. Oh, he just got caught.

Like a pit bull that's part bear. Guess what? Henner just got caught in the chin. God. Yes, and a brow got rock There's another one Stevens really needs to work. Oh Browse in trouble. He's in trouble. He was wobbly before standing still in front of him too, man. He's got a move Jeremy's gonna time him. He's head. Oh, he just got tagged. Well, Burau's looking to fire back. Maybe he's not as hurt as we think. He's playing like he's on queer streak.

He's going to come over the top of the right hand. He definitely got hurt, but you've got to think this dude is a Novo Uniao fighter. And one of the things about those training camps in Novo Uniao, those guys go to war. Maybe they stopped lately because of all the pressure. Boy, that's hard to believe. Yeah, that's their style, right? It's hard. It's in their culture. I feel like Jeremy's bigger. Once a style gets established, that's hard to believe. Yeah, that's their style, right? It's hard. It's in their culture.

Once a style gets established, he's a strong guy. He's fighting at 55? Well, he fought at 55 and really struggles to get down to 45, whereas Baral was fighting at 35 and struggled there, and he's more comfortable at 45. Well, Stevens is a thicker-boned character. Yes. I believe he's an inch taller, too.

Yeah, he looks it. Let's find the height and weight of these guys. Yeah, Jamie. Young Jamie, please. Yeah, Jamie. Please, Jamie. What does it say? Height? 71. Damn, that was quick.

5'6 and 5'9. That's a big difference. What is this 59 inches? First of all, it's not 5'6". 69 inches. Why is he sucking in his gut? Ooh, that's rough. That's 5'7"? That's 5'6", isn't it?

69? 5'9". Yeah, 5'6". Oh, it's 5'9". The 66 is 5'6", that's what I said. 60 inches is 5'9". He looks like he's in mid-Hicks and Gracie ab workout, right? Yeah, he's sucking in pretty bad.

He's about to die. Yeah, 69 is 5'9", right? Because 12 inches. Yeah, so 5'6 and 5'9". And then 66. So, okay. Yeah. 5'9 and 5'6".

But when you're looking at them, Hennon Burrow doesn't look that much shorter than him. It just, he looks like more slender and not as like thick. Yeah. Like Jeremy looks. Jeremy's a bigger boy. But it's hard when you're bending at the knees and moving. Correct.

Thick is good. Burrow has a lighter stance. Ooh's a bigger boy. But it's hard when you're bending at the knees and moving. Correct. Thick as a grape. Brow has a wider stance. Ooh, back kick, back kick. My vision is getting so shitty that it's hard for me to tell with that blown up. We're getting older. Really? Whether it says 69 inches or 5'9". See, not me.

I have beautiful eyes. It's like I'm just at that point where the six is blurry, even as big as it is. Damn, son. So depressing. So you gotta wear glasses? I'd rather, only when I read things. What about the laser surgery? Like up close, and that's no good. I did it.

It's beautiful. But it's only good for certain types of corneas. Well, issues with your retina. So you're having trouble seeing long distances? No, much more it's close distances, but even long distances, it's not so hot anymore. See, I have no problem with long distances. So you can't see closer? No, no much more. It's close distances, but even long distance. It's not so hot. I have no problem with long

So you can't see closer. No, I still probably have pretty good vision like I see you crystal clear I see you crystal because read that so I can read it, but it's it's there's a there's a certain amount of aura The numbers is it not clear like Lacey gave it to me on lights like look I'll put these glasses on and bam and money. It's crystal. So just wear those me on lights. Like, look, I'll put these glasses on, and bam. And money. It's crystal clear. So just wear those like Malcolm X. No. Like Malcolm X? That's your shit now.

That's your shit now. Yeah. I wear glasses. It is in. They get in the way, though. I took my contacts off for good. Fuck the contacts. I would just wear glasses.

LASIK. Glasses are easier, for sure. I feel lucky I don't have to wear glasses. I'm going to do LASIK eventually. But the problem with LASIKs is, like, Kathy Griffin had a real issue with it, apparently. Oh, Hanna-Brown was a takedown. She's the exception. She's the Chris Benoit of LASIK it apparently. Oh, Hannah Brow was a takedown. She's the exception. She's the Chris Benoit of Lasix.

Right. Hannah Brow was a takedown, but Jeremy Stevens. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, Brow, look at him take that back. Don't kid yourself. Jeremy Stevens back to his seat. Stevens will wear you out if he's bigger. Well, Stevens is also a training partner for Dominic Cruz.

He's training at Alliance. I mean, he's down there with Eric Delfiero, one of the most underrated coaches in the world. And Neil Malanson. Yeah. Malanson went to Black House, didn't he? He goes to both, I remember. Oh, he goes back and forth? He was there forever.

Maybe he is at Black House, too, though. He was there forever, but I think they brought him into Black House in order to— Phil Davis is out of the Alliance camp. They're monsters. Gustafson was down there. Gustafson goes down there. What's up with him? Ross Pearson.

Did they give Gustafson a fight? I feel like they haven't. I feel like Gustafson just said there. Gustafson goes down there. What's up with him? Ross Pearson. Did they give Gustafson a fight? I feel like they had to. I feel like Gustafson just said something about not knowing what he's doing. I thought he said he lost the drive, right? So he flew from Sweden to San Diego to see if the fire was still there, and he still was questioned, I guess. Really? Oh, man.

I think he comes from money, Gustafson. I think he's got a lot of money. How dare you just make things up? Yeah, I don't think so, Pete. No, I think he does. It's not even real money. It's like Norwegian money or some shit. His I think he's got a lot of money. How dare you just make things up? Yeah, I don't think so, Pete. No, I think he does. I think his family has- It's not even real money. It's like Norwegian money or some shit.

No, no, his family, his dad has a lot of money. Yeah, but it's not even American money. And he was always kind of a problem child growing up. But now he's a superstar. Oh, he's huge in Sweden. It's hard to go back to that training when you're already kind of arrived. People from Stockholm that are listening, I was only joking about your money. He's a stud.

Brian didn't hear it. What do you think? It's American money? It's not American money. It's not the only money? It's the only money? It's a high tax rate didn't hear it. What do you think? It's American money. It's not American money. It's the only money? It's a high tax rate. American money is the only money? Is that what you're saying?

It is a high tax rate. It's like something like crazy, like 60%. No, that's not what I'm saying, Brian. I'm saying American's better. Yeah. Jesus Christ. America, son. I don't care about their fucking tax rate.

I know you are. I know you are. You can only pay 1% taxes. You can suck my dick. You have to live in Scotland or wherever the hell you live. It's from Sweden, you son of a bitch. There's a huge difference. God damn it.

You do what you pay for, man. Stockholm is a beautiful city. You can swim in the water there. Yo, I've been there. You might as well be living on the moon. Hey! Excuse me. I did two shows there.

Stockholm, I'm sorry. Sweden, I'm sorry. I'm outraged. I did two shows in Stockholm. I was supposed to come with you. Does this thing come from money? I didn't hear that. He's a fucking monster. I don't think he'd go to war with John Jones like that if he were a rich kid.

Really? Yeah. Why don't you Google it? Don't say trust me, trust me if you're not sure. No, I'm better than Google. I have an inside scoop on that, to be honest with you. No, do you really? No, you fucking don't. Who hates on him? I trained with the guy. I'm not saying he comes from billions, but he comes from No, do you really though? Or do you have a guy who hates on him? Who he trains with?

I trained with the guy. No, he comes from, I'm not saying he comes from billions, but he comes from a well-to-do family. Okay, he's well-to-do, like not starving. That's not saying anything bad about him. That's a good thing. He comes from a good family, a successful, his father was very successful. Okay. And apparently he was, I guess he had some problems growing up.

Okay, hold on. You have a phone, right? Yeah. Why don't you look that up? Okay, hold on. You have a phone, right? Yeah. Why don't you look that up? How do I look it up? Let's Google Alexander Gustafson's childhood. I have 1%. Oh, my God.

Plug it in. Too bad, too late. Just plug it in, man. I just don't know. I feel like young Jamie would find it in about three seconds. Young Jamie will find it. Here's the deal. I think he's a spectacular person, so I don't want to disparage his background.

And if he did come up from a hard, sc I don't want to disparage his background. And if he did come up from a hard, scrabble existence. It's even more impressive. The last thing I want to hear is the kid over there talking shit and making things up. Dude, he's a billionaire. His godfather's Uncle Gates. Uncle Gates. Jeremy Stevens dropping bows, dropping knees on Hannah Brown. I feel like light heavyweight needs a gust of wind, man.

They're running thin. He's a tough guy. He's a real tough guy. One of the best. Think how close he was to winning a world title. Twice. And a true blonde. I call him a true blonde.

True blonde. Well, he beat Manowar when no one had. I mean, he took a fight with Manowar and Manowar was... Jimmy Manowar was knocking out anybody. Everybody. Hannah's bleeding, man. What happened? Man, Stevens is just bigger.

They say he got in a fight. What happened? Punched you in the face. By the way, Hennon is having trouble hurting Stevens with this. Damn, he's got a big head, Jeremy. Oh, shit. He can kind of walk through it. Keep pressure on him like this.

Ouch, ouch. Great kick. Oh, boy, he loves that uppercut. He loves that damn uppercut. He does. Well, I mean, it's one of his most spectacular highlight reel KOs ever. What if the UFC starts adding CGI blood, like, live? They could do it live.

Like Snapchat filters. Exactly. Imagine if you watch UFC. Take them down. Rash guards and filters. Dude, imagine if you could watch the UFC through Snapchat and you could make like a Brad Pitt filter. That's sick.

And Angelina Jolie would duke it out to the death. You could put Angelina's head. You could even change their bodies. You can make Cyborg's body. You can have Cyborg fight Cain Velasquez next time Verdun fights Cain. He's turning into Cyborg. If you're really into watching a girl beat the fuck out of a dude.

It's so ridiculous. Hey, you bastards. I'm watching this fight. Let me ask a question. The girl from Frozen. The Anna from Frozen. That could be who's fighting and winning. Those Snapchat filters are crazy, man. They are crazy, man.

Brian, you could take your face, put it on Shob's body, and he could say anything. Yeah, I will. As Brian Callen. I'm going to. Steven's with a good need of the body. I don't fuck with Snapchat. Do you, Joe? No, I do not.

Neither do I. You guys should do an episode where you play each other the whole time. You're in character. You're in count. Not a bad idea. That might get mean. Yeah, you're right. That's a good episode for 3DB. Patty Jenkins says hi to you. She's been directing

Wonder Woman. I don't give a fuck about Wonder Woman, but I love Patty. Can we salute to the fighter and the kid making it to number one on the iTunes TV show list? Not bad. How is that possible? I have no idea. Dude, you guys are number one on iTunes comedy TV?

That's fucking incredible. It's kind of crazy, but you know what? We're proud of what we did. Kind of crazy. That's incredible. You're not number three. You're not number six. You're not number two. I gotta start taking my success in. I always think of myself as a failure. Well, you're not number six. You're not number two. I gotta start taking my success in. I always think of myself as a failure. Well, you're definitely a failure. I'm definitely

a failure, but at least that was a... It's just about what you're counting. It's about what you're counting. I mean, you failed at basketball. Yes. You're never gonna be in the NBA. Never gonna be in the UFC. Depends how you look at it. You suck at software development.

You're never gonna win NASCAR. Oh, to be in the UFC. That's how you look at it. You suck at software development. You're never going to win NASCAR. Oh, fuck. You're right. There's so many things I'm never going to do. Tiger Kim doesn't even know who you are. God damn it. I called him. God damn it. Huh? I called Tiger Kim. Tiger Kim. He knew who I was. He didn't know who the fuck you were.

Dude, my kicks are sick. My kicks are sick. Dude, that's the fight right there. Look at these two guys. Two killers. Good luck picking five of the night tonight. These are good fights. Well done, Joe Silva. One full round. You barely paid any attention.

Anybody that tuned in here wanting to hear us talk about fights, I'm so sorry. I feel bad. Not me. If you expected we were just going to talk about fights, ram your face into your wall. I mean, we would never do that. We should. Brian Callen, isn't it important to admit things that you're a failure at?

Yes. I think that's important. And you and I have had this conversation many times. I'm a failure at almost everything I've ever done. Yes. Ultimately. And you find ways to be successful at it. Yeah.

But I've failed at everything. Well, wisdom. What is wisdom? I think wisdom. What'd you fail at? I didn't done. Yes. Ultimately. And you find ways to be successful at it. Yeah. But I've failed at everything. Well, wisdom. What is wisdom? I think wisdom. Would you fail at anything? I didn't fail at shit. But wait. Wisdom, wisdom.

On the way to getting really good at shit. Everybody fails. I failed at it. Wisdom, wisdom is. All of it. You succeeded in everything. But no, I failed on the way. No, listen, listen.

Fail. Listen, listen. You always fail. That's why I always say to younger people, listen to me because I've made more mistakes than you have. Wisdom is. Wisdom. Listen. You win wisdom wisdom listen everything no wisdom is let me define wisdom wisdom is coming to terms with your limitations and learning what to do with it that's what it is you wisdom is learning that you have limitations coming to terms with that accepting it and then learning what to do with

that learning how to make that work for you. That's what it is. That's how you learn. Now you learn. You keep failing and you keep adjusting your approach and you keep getting closer to something. No. Yes. Or you what? What happens?

Sometimes. Sometimes you got to move on. Sometimes you just do something. Sometimes you got to go keto. Sometimes, son. Do all these dices. My man. Are you sure?

You sure all ketoed out? Go keto. There we go. Decision. Keto on that ass. By the way, by the way, he's trimmed up, man. How about we have no idea who won this, and we barely pay attention to an awesome fight? If Jeremy doesn't win this, I'll be furious.

Oh, shit. I'm going to go home tonight, and I'm going to watch this shit before I go to sleep. Now, really get another. Jeremy Stephens. What a fucking win. Motherfucker. That motherfucker. Powerful dad bod by DC on the side there.

Powerful Jeremy Stephens, who's been on the Joe Rogan experience. It's tough on him. It's tough. No, Jeremy Stephens who's been on the Joe Rogan experience. It's tough on him. No, Jeremy Stephens has been on. I'll have him on again anytime he wants. Jeremy, open invitation. Boom. My dog. What a big win. Huge. Huge fucking win. Huge win. Shut down one of the guys who was considered to be

one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world just a year and a half ago. Damn. For TJ. Seems like forever ago. Shit. For TJ ate his lunch twice. It is forever ago in the world just a year and a half ago for TJ. It seems like forever ago. Shit. For TJ ate his lunch twice. It is forever ago in the world of MMA. That's one of the weird things about this sport. This sport is strange, man. You're only as good as your last fight.

Well, you're only as good as your last training session. You could have a bad training session and they'll go into the fight like, man, I don't even know. You know, like there's certain guys that you can take on as training partners. They could fuck up your confidence for a fight. Because you can know there's a Rumble Johnson like that out there. If you're some dude who trains light heavyweight at Black House, and you're training with Rumble all day, you're like, what am I doing?

Why am I doing this? What, do I like concussions? What am I doing? I'm going to learn. I'm going to get better with this fucking dude who's like the freak of freaks. Oh Although like Anderson that's what makes him so extraordinary his dominance for so long and then he got knocked out once and then broke his leg And well, so sometimes it ends sometimes sometimes just oh, he's also

40 there's a hundred factors in there. Yeah, there's life. There's a hundred factors involved. There's life. There's psychology. There's psychology. There's also understanding who you are as a human being and how that gets distorted by massive amounts of fame and praise and adulation and love from your countrymen and from people around the world. Because you're the champion of the world and recognize my opinion. If you want to ask me who's the greatest of all time, I will always say Anderson Silva. No doubt.

I think Anderson Silva is the greatest MMA fighter. Finished everybody. He finished everybody. He's the best. Beat the best. He did things. Finished everybody. He did things during the apex of the prime of MMA that nobody had been able to do before.

Yes. You know, he just was a monster, man. When he was with the knockout, the Vitor knockout. The front kick to the face. I was in person. It was life changing. Oh my God. Nate Marquardt.

Dude. I mean, everybody. Oh my God, dude. Everybody. He was a monster. James Irvin. How about the Forrest Griffin fight? Jesus fucking Christ.

When he went full matrix. Jesus Christ. You talking about full matrix? Full matrix. Jesus Christ. Boom. What was this? Jesus Christ. You talking about full Matrix? Full Matrix. Jesus Christ. Boom. What was this coming up for? You know, even the first... Chris Lieben. Even the first watch for me, but not for me. So that was an interesting fight for me

because that was a fight where I was telling everybody that worked for the UFC. I was like, do you understand what you have acquired? I'm like, you have acquired, in my opinion, the baddest motherfucker in this division. Like, do you understand how good this guy this guy but he wasn't that dominant in Japan though, but it didn't matter I'm other it didn't matter like there was like you're talking about and when Anderson came over the UFC I was adamant. I'm like you guys have a guy who when I watch movement

I watched like the way guys move like this guy can do some shit He can do it. He did he was he just so much faster than most guys? His Muay Thai, man. His Muay Thai is just like super, super high level. There he is up there. This is Anderson versus Forrest Griffin. Look at that behind you. This is Anderson in his prime. And by the way, light heavy

weight fight for a guy who's 20 pounds less as a champion. And this is just an opportunity for Anderson to fight and not have to cut weight. And in Brazil. Was this Brazil? Yeah. Against Forrest?

Yeah, same card because I fought Nogueira that night. Pretty sure. Am I right on that? Why do I feel like this is Vegas? God, you might be right, Joe. I feel like this is Mandalay Bay. Oh, that's right. I feel like this is Vegas.

I don't think this is Brazil. Jamie, find out, please. Young Jamie. Because maybe Shogun fought Forrest in Brazil? Yes, he did. That's right, right? Yes, he did. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of, Joe.

Yes, he did. My bad. But when Anderson accidentally eye-poked or something? Then he does the Matrix. This is in Vegas. You're right, Joe. He opens him up and just relaxes, and Anderson was really good at figuring out your timing and lulling you to sleep with a false sense of security. And then out of nowhere, he would just drop bombs on you.

But then he took it to another level. Yeah. Well, this was the fight. Well, I think with Weidman, Weidman took him down early and threatened him with a knee bar. And I think he was really worried about the ground game. Actually, in Philadelphia. It was in Philly.

Thank you, Jamie. Good God. Look at him. God. Boom. And you know... Forrest is in trouble. Yeah, Forrest shook his head

like, God damn it. Forrest is every bit of 6'4", at least. He's huge. 235. He's a big boy. Yeah. And he's a former...

He's a light heavyweight champ. That's right. He beat the Rampage well. Close fight. I don't know what that means. Close fight. I was at that fight, though. It was kind of cool.

Were you? Yes, I was. I was right. I was with you. Oh, okay. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh, look at this.

Look at this. Another going out. That's what I'm going to start doing when I spar. There it is. Look. Anderson. He gets mad. I'm mad at Anderson.

I don't know why he'm mad Anderson the way he moves look at how he moves his head though like whoop dude yeah it's almost like Anderson got what did he get upset about oh shit

look at this matrix oh he's beating him up that was the matrix right there slow motion you've never seen some shit like that

he ramped it up it's like he got mad some Roy Jones shit he got mad at Forrest wonder what the fuck happened man white oh man

white anger excuse me the only difference between a. For being white. Oh, man. White anger. Excuse me. The only difference between a white man and a black man is like this. One man needs more sun for vitamin D. I'm mad at white people. I'm mad at white people and I'm white. Me too. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. Man, he's so loose here. Look at him blocking those shots. He's so loose. Don't bring that shit into my fucking ring. Forrest pulled back on a round kick. Look at him. He realized how slow's so loose. Don't bring that shit into my fucking ring. Well, Forrest pulled back on a round kick. Look at him. He realized how slow Forrest is.

There it is. Oh, that right hand. And that's it. Right hand. Right force spread out like that. He's like, that's a wrap, please. Enough is enough. You know who talks shit on white people the best?

Me. Joey. Oh, Joey does, yeah. He's the best at talking shit about everything. Fucking white people. What did you think you wanted to do? This fucking guy's been living in the jungle. He's been dogging jaguars.

Jaguars are eating crocodiles. This motherfucker's hitting them with a right hook. Heel hooking them. Fucking white people. He's heel hooking flamingos in the fucking Everglades. Alameda, Alameda is a bad moment. Fucking white people, you think you're going to take essential multivitamin once a day? Get the fuck out of here.

He's eating acai and he's getting steroids shot into the hole in his dick with a turkey baster. Stupid. I'll give him three stars of death. Three stars of death. There's a photo from Joey's Twitter. I retweeted it yesterday. He says, come on, Pittsburgh, who wants to meet the devil? And it's in his hotel room.

He's got mushrooms and these stars of death, which I think these stars, the pot gummy stars are like 500 milligrams of THC. Look at that fucking photograph. That is 2,000 milligrams of THC and at least three grams of mushrooms. Are you ready to see the devil? Oh, shit. That's a Thursday night. Mushrooms and stars of death. Mushrooms and stars of death.

And that's how he's living. That of death and that's how he's living That's real an album does he take he didn't taste mushrooms before he performs of course he does you shut the fuck up He takes a really oh my god. You're feeling For the main event stop that is an amazing picture or wine, please is that on his Twitter? Yes We may be a little I have a little bit of turned dude that's a very good head turn shit my glass turned turn you may not have grown man you're so gross with your wine hold on turn it up that's good it's just different let's get the turnt one yeah

and get involved look at that fucking Pittsburgh, are you ready to see the devil? The improv at 7 and 9 p.m. Oh, shit. Look at that. I'm sorry, Bubba. I'm sorry. Come on, Bubba. You don't have to suck my dick, but... By the way, Joey Diaz will be here on Tuesday.

Joey Diaz will be here Tuesday. Hey, you fucks. I'll be in St. Louis June 9th, 10th, and 11th at the Helium Comedy Club, you fucks. No, I didn't say that. That was Jamie. Hey, you guys, this is Jamie. Brian's going to be in Helium Comedy Club in St. Louis.

I heard St. Louis is a rough joint, dude. Really? Helium? No, St. Louis. I've been there. It's nice. It's rough. Come on, man. What's his name from there? Who's that rapper? Everyone's getting crazy.

Nelly. Yeah, fucking Nelly's my boy. Hey, Brian. Look at that girl behind us. Do you think that girl understands the cameras on her? Right behind Justin Buckles? I'm looking at her, though. She's fantastic.

She's looking at Cody going, I thought I'd fuck my mouth. Yes. I'm sure she's not a pro. What are you trying to say, bro? I didn't say anything. Just because the girl's a good-looking girl. That's all I meant. That's all I pro. What are you trying to say, bro? I didn't say anything. Just because a girl's a good-looking girl. That's all I meant. That's all I meant.

Professional hot girl. But meanwhile, if there was a guy, okay, that was standing back there and that was looking at a stud woman that's like the female equivalent to Cody, that'd be like a natural thing to say. Too many tattoos. That's weird. Cody, too many tattoos, of course. Of course too many tattoos.

No, no, no. Don't be a pussy, man. No. That's how you attract a certain type of female. Is that true? Of course. Cody, too many tattoos, of course. Of course too many tattoos. No, no, no. Don't be a pussy, man. No, that's how you attract a certain type of female. Is that true? Of course. Cody, Cody, the neck. Girls like dangerous shit. The neck.

Some girls like dangerous shit. They like it. You know what? He's so good looking, he could do that shit. Oh, he's a dying piece. It doesn't matter. He could put a tattoo right on his face. Oh, he's first team.

He's first team. Alan Jobin's the captain. Luke Rockhold's co-captain. He's very cute. He's very cute. No. He's a little short to be first team. Luke Rockhold's the captain. No way,'s co-captain. He's very cute. He's a little short to be Luke Rockhold's captain. You're wrong. He's taller. Alan Jobin's with Versace.

Doesn't matter. Luke's taller. Luke could be with Versace, too. He seeks it out. He's too legit to even be signed. You understand? You know what? Yes, I'm saying he's too legit to be signed. Once you get signed by a modeling agent, then you're a model. You understand That's aggressive You know what Maybe Yes I'm saying He's too legit to be signed I agree What's signed

Once you get signed By a modeling agent Then you're a model If you're just as good looking And you're not signed You're more legit I agree What

I think Joe Van's more legit No Maybe the guy Hey guys We don't talk about anything Huh This is We're all fucking

Idiots What about this Conspiracy theory What if he's so hot That he got the tattoos On his neck To keep the girls Like at bay

So he's gay No he's just like Shit there's too many I gotta do something No guy's ever said that You never know Look at No

Fuck What's going on Look at Joe Bann What's going on Oh shit Why do we have to go there That's not right What's going on

Is he's trying to get A specific quality of female. You know what I'm saying? We can't do this. He's tired of women that are looking for some sort of long-term, serious commitment. So you tattoo on your neck. Morals and religious beliefs. Yeah.

So he gets a neck tattoo and only drags in the freaks. He's got some tits on him, Jobin. Bro, I saw Jobin. Giant poster. New York. New York City. Him. Shirt off.

Really? Handsome man. Beautiful man. Oh, we're talking billboards, son. Versace. What? Really? Holy shit.

Brian, why are you scared of weed? No, I'm not, guys. I'll do it if you're friendly with me. Well, Brendan just reached for it and he put it out. I will, too. And I'll do jiu-jitsu, too, from now on. I'm sorry. I thought you guys were done.

Dude, you're crazy. I mean, I keep going back to Joban. You're fucking crazy thinking anyone's on that level. I like how you try to distract the conversation with the weed. Luke has got to be.

Nobody has Ronaldo. You're crazy. Nobody has Ronaldo. Joban looks like Ronaldo. Not quite. This conversation got way too gay for me. I'm with you.

And I'm way too serious about it. I'm way too serious about it. All this talk and no emotion? That's bullshit. Dude, look at him there. Look at him there. I'm with you And I'm way too serious about it B, B, I'm way too serious All this talk and no emotion That's bullshit Dude, look at him there Look at him there I'm with you Come on

You guys are whack Joban's a beautiful man We gotta be a little better About talking over each other I know I keep saying this Where's the lotion? And I know I'm guilty I'm as guilty as everybody

You're the lonely voice In the wilderness He keeps bringing us back Because I'm the one Who has to read the tweets You're right No, but we're talking about Joe Bannon's ass Listen, this is the most beautiful thing ever

I think we're all working together to create a piece of art We just gotta be real careful about stomping on each other's words A piece of art A turkey based on steroids in somebody's dick It's okay when you're talking about gay shit It's okay It's not even gay, Joe Bannon's a good looking dude But I think he's first team

How about Thomas Almeida? How many times do I gotta tell you he's married? Thomas Almeida's not a bad looking fellow either. Almeida is a killer. Come on, man. He looks like Adele next to Joe Bann. How dare you? How fucking dare you?

I like Adele. With all due respect. The guy's a great looking guy. Exactly what they're looking for. Hey, man. Listen, he's a twink. He's called a twink in the gay community. This kid is a fucking savage. Yes, he, man, listen, he's a twink. He's called a twink in the gay community. This kid is a fucking savage.

Yes, he is. Thomas Almeida is a goddamn savage. He's going to win this fight. Tough fight for Garbrandt. Oh, Brian, with this nonsense of winning. What did you say about the last fight? You were wrong, correct? No, I was baiting you guys, but here's the thing.

He's going to win this fight. He certainly can win, but you know what? Cody can win, too. Both these guys are undefeated. Almeida's the favorite. Almeida's got 22 fights. Of course he is. But let me tell you something.

Brad Pickett stunned Almeida, and he stunned him and hurt him with a left hook. Pickett's a great boxer. It's true. But I'm telling you, Cody Garbrandt, I believe at this stage of his career in life, he's only 24 years old, he's faster and more dangerous with his hands. He also hits harder than anyone at 135. Yes. Because of his career in life. He's only 24 years old. He's faster and more dangerous with his hands. He also hits harder than anyone at 135. Because of his boxing background. Yes, he has a very strong boxing background. So,

if Cody can impose his boxing skills in a similar manner to what Brad Pickett did, we might see some interesting results. By interesting, you mean KO. But, I'm telling you, this guy is hard to take out. He's a goddamn savage. This fucking kid, Thomas Almeida, is something super special. He takes hits, though, Joe.

But he comes back. He's never fought a guy like this, though. Brad Pickett hits fucking hard, man. One Brad Pickett dropped him, and Almeida came back and knocked him out with a flying knee KO in the next round. came back and knocked him out with a flying knee KO in the next round. We're about to watch some crazy epic shit that could easily be a world championship fight. Easily.

Maybe Garbrandt is a year away from world championship caliber. Yes. He wins this, he's off to the races. You beat number eight undefeated? Yes. And you look like that? Cody is, in my opinion, a year, a year and a half away from fighting for a title. I agree.

Which means it could happen tomorrow. Hey, name the last guy who was on-ranked to lead a main event that wasn't a legend. Well, what is Cody's ranking at all? He's not ranked. He's not in the top 15. He's certainly dangerous, and he certainly comes from a really good team. He's a team alpha male guy. They've got a long history of success.

He's a knockout artist. He's a knockout artist. He has awesome hands. How tall is he? I think he's 5'8". That's pretty tall. That's not short. 5'8".

Yeah. At 135. 5'8 is tall enough. 5'8 is tall enough. 135 is tall. Almeida's 5'7". 21 and 0. Almeida's a gangster, dude.

He's so solid. I like Garbrandt, man. We're watching right now. We're about to watch some fucking technical martial arts chaos. That's what we're about to watch. You can watch Garbrandt sock him in the face. You might watch that, or you might watch Almeida hit him with a fucking switch knee as he's coming in. You might watch some leg kicks that take Cody Garbrandt out of the game.

I mean, it's all dependent upon approach. This is guessing and theoretical ideas. It's theoretical that if Cody keeps it on the feet and sprawls and brawls, he wins. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Look, Kevin Randleman knocked out Mirko Krokop with a left hook. Yeah, I mean, this is a crazy game we're about to watch. I mean, this is as crazy a game as

people play. Horrible sport to bet on. Throw my bones at you with all my might. That's it? The same kind of power that produces a 90 plus mile an hour fastball, and I'm gonna stuff it into your fucking lips. The game is shut you off. fucking lips the game is

Make you quit or shut you up Where a capoeira in the house capoeira in the fucking house Cody opens up a place crazy roundhouse Yeah, he touched the car capoeira roundhouse. Damn it. Here's the problem with that You should probably shouldn't be able to touch the ground on purpose and then punch a guy with that same hand without the referee wiping It off. Oh my god, Joe. Come on. No, if you go to the ground in boxing, they wipe your hands off. You ever notice that? They wipe your hands off. What's that fucking tattoo on the back?

Is that a rose on the back of his neck? Because there's a bunch of people walking. Like, the referee walks through the arena and then uses those same shoes as walking around on his mat. I say make him wash his feet. I say... Think how many people are in the ring, though, in between. Baby wipes. Oh, hey, hey, hey. I like that part how many people are in the ring, though, in between. Baby wipes.

Oh, hey, hey, hey. I like that part. Oh, my God. We lost power. Hey, Fox Sports 1. Oh, wow. Came back. Calm down, everybody.

What was that, Jamie? Calm down. No idea? Someone shut the lights off. No big deal. No big deal. Trying to shut us down. That's scary.

Cody Garbrandt with a left hook. Oh, Garbrandt. See, the thing is... Uh-oh. Oh! Every fight, when it's dangerous, starts starts off with hands because you don't feel comfortable enough to start throwing kicks unless you're some crazy Muay Thai-style kicking expert where it's a part of your natural thing.

Damn, Garbrandt's a killer. But guys who are straight-up MMA fighters, they tend to favor hands when they're nervous. So when you're favoring hands, Garbrandt's got a pretty fucking nice advantage over a large percentage of the people he's faced so far. Especially with his boxing background. Joe, wouldn't you say most guys favor grappling in the beginning? There's a little bit of that, but there's also hands before kicks.

I agree. Garbrandt's got some speed. Because of distance. Fuck, he's got speed. And Almeida likes to throw knees and likes to throw kicks, but he might get conservative in his approach because of the fact that Garbrandt's hands are so good that he doesn't want to open himself up. He probably considered straight right counters to right leg kicks. Look how heavy Garbrandt is on the front leg.

I would assume that he's ready for a straight right hand counter. Dude, how quick are his right leg kicks, too? His hands are lightning fast. Yes, they quick are his right leg kicks, too? His hands. His hands are lightning fast, man. Yes, they are. His right leg kick is really fast, too, man. It's not just a... Oh! Oh, son!

The man is in trouble! Oh, he's in big trouble! Oh, son! Cody Garbrandt's all over him. Relax, too. Only eight fights. Oh, right hand! Jesus.

Look at this killer! Jesus. He just got caught. How good is that neck tattoo? Look if he wins. Yeah, what's up now, Brian? That's an apple, son. If he wins, he can get a star. Nah, he's baiting him. He's baiting him. He can get a star. Plain possum, plain possum. He can get a star. That's a pair of plums on his neck. Damn, Almeida can take

a punch, guys. He can get a star right below his eye if he wins. 100%. If Almeida can take a punch. Look at his shit. Did you see him just take that beating and he stayed standing there there This is crazy Someone's going out son Someone's going out early son Cody's teeing off on him man

Cody's getting a little reckless Stay in control buddy Doesn't matter It looks like Oh my god Boom What's up bitch Cody nailed it

It's over baby That's it Oh my god Huge win Cody is legit as fuck You're up on top 10 now Hey you fucks that vote Legit as fuck He just beat number on top ten now. Hey, you fucked that vote. Legit as fuck.

He just beat number eight. He's undefeated. I told you, fuckers. He didn't just beat him. He took him out in the first round. Hey, you Cheeto finger fucks. Rank him. Brian, didn't you say that you were rooting for...

Didn't you... Who? Weren't you... Me? Toms? No, I've been a Garbrandt fan since fucking 1996. I heard him say that shit. Wait a minute.

Did you say Almeida for sure was going to win? No, dude. And since 2011, he's been my boy. Oh, my God. I was watching this kid wrestle. I was one of those high school wrestling masters. Cody's a nail. Told you.

I told you, fucks. Hardest hit at 35, son. Yep. Oh, my God. Look at this. Beautiful. Beautiful. Oh, my God.

Beautiful technique. He grew up boxing. Dude, the technique, though, even with the grounded pound going right to the hammer fist. Look at this power. Oh, my God. Dasha! Oh, my God. It's beautiful.

Gadooj. Gadooj. It's beautiful. What a fucking huge win, man. It's beautiful. Good for him. To me, that's like a mountain covered in snow with a sunrise. Good God.

Yeah, that shit was great. It definitely has visual triggers like porn. It's right up there with ass to waist ratio. Yep. Well, damn. Right up there. Damn, bro. That's beautiful.

I respect that. But I have to strongly disagree. Eddie is so high he can barely open his eyes. Let's shut this off. Shut this off. I don't want to watch anymore. I've had enough violence. I've had enough violence. I've had enough violence.

Gosh. God damn. Garbrandt doing the damn thing. Good stuff, guys. My favorite fight at 35, son. God damn, he looked good tonight. This was like a coming out party for Garbrandt. He's not ranked.

They give him undefeated, 21-0, eighth ranked guy in the world, and he starches. Well, not 21-0. He's lost two fights in a row. No. Well, you mean,0. He's lost two fights in a row. No. Well, you mean you're not talking about tonight? I'm talking about tonight. Well, Hennon Burrow was lost a couple of times. I'm not talking about Hennon Burrow. I'm talking about Cody Garbrandt

and the Almeida fight. Almeida's undefeated. He hasn't lost. My bad. I'm confused. I got baffled. Yeah, well, Cody did. You gotta rank him. Yeah, what Cody did tonight was like impose his skills in a way that I don't think you've ever seen him do before. That was like the best version of all of his combinations. It's a coming out party. The most-

Yeah, for sure. It's a coming out party. He's a star now. He's a good looking dude. All knockouts. He was so professional and calm in all that fire, in that fire range, in that fucking squadron of death range. He was so, his eyes were so focused. He was so relaxed.

And I don't know shit about striking, but I mean, he looked like Bruce Wallace. You know what? This was a great card. He looked like Bruce Wallace. This was a great card. Not just because the matchups were fun, but look what we had. We had Jeremy Stephens beat Hennon Burrell. I was like, wow, that was a big fucking win for Jeremy Stephens.

Holy shit. And then we had Cody Garbrandt take it to the totally next level. So it was a perfect co-main and then main. Like I said, big performance of the night. Come on, man. How are you going to do that? I mean, it's also amazing that Hennon Burrow, who just two fights ago was the world champion.

Three fights. Some said pound for pound, best for best in the world. They're like weighing him in and out. I was thinking he was number three. I was like, it was John Jones. I felt like, well, four. I was like, because it was before Aldo got stopped by McGregor. John Jones. But Demetrius wasn't.

It was like a little bit below. It was all subjective, but it was in the mix. Hennon was definitely in the mix. Top five for sure. For sure. For sure. And for all those people that were on the fence. All those people that were on the fence about a neck tattoo.

Boom, they got side kicked over. Bam. They go, boom. I know, for sure. For real. Let's do it. I'm getting a neck tattoo. But here's the thing.

I think this is important to talk about for all MMA fans. There's an issue that keeps coming up with MMA and social media that I think people need to relax about. Like, all of us, as friends, disagree about shit. But we're not douchey about it. Like, if you think that Hennenborough was going to be able to figure out a way to beat Jeremy Stephens, but I think that Jeremy Stephens was going to be able to figure out a way to beat Jeremy Stevens, but I think that Jeremy Stevens' power and experience at 145 pounds is going to prevail,

we don't have to be enemies. But there's this weird thing going on. If you say something, and I disagree with it, if that hits online, if two people disagree online, people assume that there's some sort of a horrible argument going on. Yeah. And they assume that there's some negativity.

And it gets mean. It gets mean. It gets mean. It gets mean. It gets mean. Yeah. It gets mean. You hate each other, but no.

No. Good friends disagree all the time. But that's a tendency for people. How many times have you and I, I mean, you're as close to as a human being as I could be with you guys, all of you guys, you later in my life, but all of us. I'm still up there as I could be with you guys, all of you guys,

you later in my life, but all of us. I'm still up there, dog. You're up there, dog. You know, bro. You know what I'm saying, dog. But you know what I'm saying? How many times have we disagreed about shit? We've had some intense disagreements. Yes.

We've had some intense disagreements, but through those disagreements, you learn to consider other people's perspectives. But online, Joe, they call it hating. They'll say it's hating. It's called critical thinking. It's not hating. Listen, my love for both of you and you too, my love for all of you, it doesn't change depending upon whether

or not I agree with you or disagree with you. Of course. The clearest example of that is the chemtrail issue. Yes, it is. Come on. It's pretty goddamn clear. You're so anti-chemtrail, and I'm all about chemtrail.

And that doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. No, I don't know. This is what I really feel like. I feel like it is entirely possible that at one point in time, they have experimented with spraying things in the air. You were fucked up, Joe. It's entirely not possible. They do it all the time, and then they with spraying things in the air. It's entirely not possible.

They do it all the time. And then they just scatter through the sky trying to control us. Or control the weather. Or the 80s. But then there's the issue of jet engines actually go through condensation in the atmosphere.

It actually changes the temperature of the water getting sucked into the turbines. It's heat. It's heat. It's like we didn't hear that. Exactly. Like we haven't heard that a million times. It's the engine and the air.

Eddie Bravo. Eddie's crystal. Eddie's crystal. It's like, wait a minute. You asked for this. We've never heard this before. Eddie, stay calm. Eddie Bravo.

I love you. Are you trying to tell me that the engine has heat and then makes clouds? Yes, Eddie. Are you sure? Eddie, this motherfucker told me the other day that 9-11 was real. What do you mean real? Like it actually happened? Yeah.

Well, I was here September 11th, and then I woke up September 12th, and I'm like, I'm pretty sure that was real. I said, wait till Eddie gets here. That was a hologram. Wait the gets here Those towers were a hologram That shit never existed Look in the scriptures They never talk about the twin towers Winding them up Winding them up

Ladies and gentlemen another episode of chaos Hey you know you're doing the writers on the storm You know the craziest thing about the writers on the storm The craziest thing about the doors Do you know that Jim Morrison's dad orchestrated the Gulf of Tonkin? Did you know fucking no wow this is the crazy makes sense? This is this is this is the craziest thing and that sounded that's conspiracy Jamie He was a Navy Yes, kind sir.

Get upon this data. He was a Navy high level. Was he high level? Jim Morrison's dad. Jim Morrison's dad orchestrated the Gulf of Tonkin. Look at his dad. Look at his dad. Gangster. It's real.

It's not a conspiracy. Did you write this Wikipedia page? This is the problem with being friends with both Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo. Occasionally they have solid points. Check this out. No, no, but check this out. Check this out. This is the craziest thing.

This is the tip of the iceberg. It's true. You want 90 seconds of the craziest shit that I'm into right now? I want 120 minutes. Listen, listen, real quick. Real, real, real quick. I gotta blaze through some shit really quick

and you just gotta go with it. Let me open my mind. I'm opening my mind. I'm opening my mind. Okay, there's a... You gotta know that there's a woman named Kay Griggs who was married to a high-ranking Army Joint Chiefs of Staff Officer George Griggs. General. He's legit.

They were married, and she knows all about his life. He was raised as an assassin. He was a Navy SEAL. He was a CIA operative. He was UN Special Forces. And then he became a high ranking... this is not a conspiracy. You talking about the movie Triple X? His name is George Griggs. There's a shitload... Okay, do you want... did you just give us the plots of Triple X?

Exactly. Exactly. Is that what he just did? Wait, let me talk to Extreme Sports. Let him finish. Please, please let him finish. You gotta know this. You, please, let Eddie go. Let him finish. Exactly. You gotta know this. Keep going, Eddie.

Keep going. There's a woman named Kay Griggs. She was all in it, too. There's an eight-hour interview of hers chopped up a million times. I bet that's fun. You can believe it or not. Maybe she's some crazy bitch. Who knows?

But let me take you through this. She can be crazy, full of shit. Maybe she's some crazy bitch. But let me take you through this. She can be crazy, full of shit. She's basically saying how the world is run based on her husband, who is high-ranking in Army intelligence, real good friends with George Sr. Like, right there.

She basically is a whistleblower. There's one interview, eight hours. She goes off and she breaks it off and she basically, if you believe what she says, she basically says, the CIA, that's just a scapegoat. They're not doing shit. The people that are really running the world are Army Intelligence, Naval Intelligence

and Air Force Intelligence. She said, they're the ones, Kay Griggs, that's it. She says, that's who's running the world. They're all, and what it's all about, it's all about gun running and just selling arms. It's all about, it's like mafia. It's all high-ranking army intelligence, mafia, gun running, drug running. They've always done it.

Her husband's part of it. It's these assassins, they can- And they're all Jews. No, but if you believe that, okay, if you believe that, just let me take you through this. So she's saying- I thought you took this too far. Army intelligence runs through all this shit, right? So then you find out that, you know that actor, rock star dude, Jared Leto?

Yeah. You bet your sweet ass I do. He bought, for $4 million, he bought, in the Laurel Canyon, in the Hollywood Hills, he bought a former top secret Air Force intelligence base. All right, you lost me on this. It was there. In Hollywood. Yeah, I'm out.

In Laurel Canyon. This is Brendan Exen out. No, no. Okay, I'm trying to tell you this is- Let him come on, man. This is how it connects to Jim Morrison. I'm trying to connect to him. Look at Joe being very human.

Go ahead. Listen, I don't know if this is real, but this is what I've looked into. Look, look, look. Investigating the shadowy conspiracy that Jared Leto, that led Jared Leto to buy the nuclear bomb film studio in Laurel Canyon. Yeah, so check this out. It makes it real. Curbed Los Angeles, yeah.

Okay, so you don't think that Jared Leto bought a top secret air... You don't believe that's true? Listen, we're getting... Hold on, hold on, hold on. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's real. Okay, hold on.'t think that Jared Leto bought a top secret air- You don't believe that's true? Listen, we're gonna- That's not a conspiracy theory. That's real. Okay, hold on. What's the big deal? Oh, I'm so weird.

I know you have this instinct- It could never happen. I know you have this instinct to mock things. I'm not even mocking. You are, for sure. It's real. You gotta follow me. But let's let him go.

Finish through it? Follow me. You lost me on Jared Leto. No, I'm in. I'm with Jared Leto. Open your mind, you fuckers. It doesn't have to be true. There's no need to talk.

You watch bullshit TV that's not true and you accept not true. Don't qualify as a novelist. Sir, I'm in. Go. Please continue. Sir, please continue. Please continue. This is Game of Thrones, okay?

Yes. Which may have an ounce of truth. It makes it better. But Game of Thrones, okay? You watch Game of Thrones. So Jared Leto, if you look at it, he bought a top secret since the 40s.

It was top secret. And what they find in it, and this is not conspiracy theory, that this top secret Air Force intelligence base was mainly a full fucking force film studio where they made propaganda films right here in hollywood marilyn monroe fucking ronald reagan that makes sense john wayne all of them making propaganda films that no one can there's no records of what films were made there you can't

tell which films were made in the studio which weren't because like and then you start looking you're like Okay, okay, Jared Leto bought this Air Force. Okay, and then you there's this book called Weird scenes in Laurel Canyon and in this book the author of this book Unless this is the craziest shit If you look it's not a conspiracy theory all the bands from the mid-60s the doors the Eagles all of them Frank zapper the mamas and the papas Crosby Stills and Nash they all came from Laurel Canyon mother so wait there's a weird thing also like hate Asbury during no no no Joe please let him finish hate Asbury was after this he's at 60s no no no this is okay okay Ashbury was doing the same thing. I'm trying to tell you some shit. It's okay. Okay. So what do you think happened?

So this is what this book is about. This book is about, isn't it fucking weird? Isn't it fucking suspicious and crazy that there's this top secret Air Force intelligence base right there in Laurel Canyon, and in the mid-60s, all the bands that started the hippie movement, the anti-war movement, they all came from Laurel Canyon. Right. And guess what? All their parents are in intelligence. So these were all of them, the Doors, all of them came from Laurel Canyon. They're all, most of them in the band.

None of them got drafted to Vietnam. None of them got drafted to Vietnam. None of them got drafted. Jim Morrison's father orchestrated the Gulf of Tonkin incident. It gets pretty fucking weird. This is crazy fucking weird. And Jared fucking Leto was raised by his grandfather.

Let him finish, Brian. Eddie, are you suggesting? Brian, let him finish. Brian, Brian, Brian. I'm asking him a question. No, no, no. Let him finish. We're almost through him a question no no no let him finish we're almost through this

the guy who wrote the book his name is shit I don't care I forgot his name the book is called David Icke McGowan

Dave McGowan Dave McGowan I've heard of him yeah so so according to him and when you look into this out of nowhere in the 60s these bands didn't struggle.

They got signed quick. All of them, all these clubs in Hollywood pop up. The Troubadour, the Whiskey. This guy investigated this shit. There's a conspiracy theory out there. It could be total bullshit. It could be totally bullshit. But there's a conspiracy theory out there.

In Laurel Canyon, there was some intelligence. There was a base. Brian, let him finish, please. There was a base. Don't tell me that the military fucking wrote that awesome music that fucking Crosby, Stills, Mash and Young did.

And then all those motherfuckers did. How dare you? Everybody let you talk for a long time. You gotta let Brian talk how dare you give the US military or the Air Force or anybody in the US government credit for the fucking

awesome rock and roll that came out and culminated in 1968 peaking at Haight-Ashbury how fucking dare you the Mamas and the Babas crank that shit Jamie

Eddie you are a fucking plant and you work for the US fucking government you? The Mamas and the Babas. Crank that shit, Jamie. Eddie, you are a fucking plant, and you work for the U.S. fucking government. You CIA motherfuckers. That's like morning down in shit right there. And I would fuck you up right now if you beat me up. God damn it, I'm going to let you fuck my asshole. All right, ladies and gentlemen, this has been the Joe Rogan experience. No, we're not done.

Oh, sorry. We're not going anywhere. We can't end like that. Sorry, there was music. I thought I was fucking... Here's the thing. Eddie, you realize this as much as I realize this, as much as anybody who is big brown,

and we're all parents, okay? What we realize is it takes a lot of fucking time and effort to raise children and communicate with children and raise children. It's a lot of time. And if you're working for the government, you don't have that kind of time.

And you certainly don't have the kind of time. Correct, correct. And you certainly don't have the kind of time to hypnotize some fucking kid and brainwash him into making the most excellent music the world's ever known. No, hold on, hold on. That is the opposite of what actually... You don't have to brainwash me. Hold on, Eddie. You know what I'm going to get you for Christmas? Eddie, I let you talk.

Keep going, Joe. It's the opposite. What the opposite is is a child that grows up in an oppressive, strict, conservative family that's connected to the military and realizes this is bullshit. And they start doing drugs and acid. They start drinking. They start hanging out with fucking weirdos. And they produce amazing music. Yes.

And that's what we see. And you can connect the two of them. But I think it's an erroneous connection. I think it's a connection that appeals to your desire to think that the world is controlled by a cabal of intelligent, super... Come on, Eddie. I like that. The cabal of intelligent, super geniuses that have somehow figured out a way to manage their own love lives, their own financial accounts, their own real estate fucking holdings, their own

stock market portfolios, their own relationships with their co-workers, their hobbies, the hookers that they occasionally stick their penis into. They have time for all that plus chemtrails. I say

no. There's not enough time in the world, and the government did not make Led Zeppelin. Amen. The government is not responsible for the doors. How dare you, Eddie Bravo. I talked about this. I talked about this before. I want to be in the goddamn Illuminati

if they're goddamn listening. Of course you do. That's why you're doing it. Yeah, that's the problem. You just gave the military credit for all the great music that came out of the 60s. You fucking military. How dare you?

You are a fucking plant. You're a shill. I want to start my own false flag campaign. Alex Jones is going to call you a shill Monday morning. We got a disturbing turn of events. Eddie Bravo, I've had on this podcast. I did not know he was an Illuminati shill. Fuck yeah.

He is on the Joe Rogan Experience. Yes, I want to do it. Promoting cat trails proven to be false. Fuck yeah. False flag. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. I want to fucking, oh my God.

You're in. Oh, please. Let me orchestrate my own false flags. You have to bow hunt. I talked about this before. I would get that fucking oil from Alaska. I would go in there and make it look- Sound like Trump.

Make it look like the ISIS is Eskimos are training ISIS. I would- You're a national treasure and I love you. I blow up blue whales. Eddie, any problem is a national treasure. None of these things are true. It has to be frustrating, Eddie, to believe something. You always constantly have to back national treasure and I love you. I blow up blue whales. Eddie Bravo's a national treasure. None of these things are true. It has to be frustrating, Eddie, to believe something. You always constantly have to back it up and defend it.

It must be exhausting. It's very exhausting. You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? With what we were talking about before, the podcast, just think about that. It's the same shit. It's like that. It's like, God damn.

Sometimes it's like, please, Illuminati, take me. I want to fuck with these motherfuckers. I want to fuck with these motherfuckers. You're too outspoken. Science, science. Oh, I want to get them. What does that mean? Science, science.

Science. Why are you measuring shit? What are you guys doing? Figuring out numbers? Science, science. What are you, weighing things? No, the crazy thing is. Science, science.

Oh, your distance and your speed. Okay. Ooh. Time and space. Ooh, you're so fucking smart. What about psychics, bro? Your measurable experiments. What about you?

What about you? I follow abductions. How come they all see the same shit, bro? Every time. I want to do a psychic, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Best cheese I've ever had.

I get it. This tastes like shit. I love that cheese. That's weird. I think both things are true. I mean, Gulf of Tonkin was obviously a coordinated false flag event. The Operation Northwoods was obviously an idea that they had tried to pass where it got through the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It was signed and vetoed by Kennedy. But they're going to have a false flag on American civilians.

staff, it was signed and vetoed by Kennedy, where they're going to have a false flag on American civilians. There's obviously have been throughout human history, liars and manipulators that were in charge. So we should certainly have some healthy skepticism. But we also have to take into consideration how much fucking time does a person have in a day? Who are all these masterminds? How much of this is just convenient?

Yes. And you're talking about the exception. Yeah. Well, how much of what's going on like the 60s shit? How much is just convenient rebellion? Obvious rebellion? You know, if you grow up with someone who's some sort of a fucking military asshole. Strict.

And he's super strict. I mean, how many rock stars have come from that background? It's like a giant number. It's their outlet. Being creative, writing music. If you're going to be a fighter, I can guarantee you. It's like a giant number. It's their outlet being creative Talk to Cody Garbrandt he did not have a fucking cool seventh grade Sure some shit

Who's the stepdad? Tattoo on your neck that says like self-made. No. That's like you're trying to fight off something. That's right. Yeah. You're not homecoming king and having a neck tattoo. Fuck no. But we also have to be taking into consideration that, like we were talking about with bears earlier, that bears don't have natural predators. So nature has rigged them weird.

Nature's wired them in some weird way where they eat babies. Whereas wolves don't do that because they have to survive. Elk don't do that. Pigs don't do that. They have to take care of their babies because it's not as easy for them to survive. But the bears got to the top of the food chain. They realized, oh, no, we're fucked. Like, no one can eat us.

So we just keep fucking and making millions of us and we'll overcome all the food and we'll all starve to death. Okay, we just started eating our babies. And nature's rigged them in some sort of a weird way. You gotta eat a baby. One out of three babies. Dude, there is- Which is why when you come to my house, do not give me a hard time when you see my fucking male seven foot eight, maybe eight six, because I'm Deadeye and I got a nose for fucking bear. Do not give me a hard time when you wiggle your toes to my fucking rug because I am saving bears by killing bears. Right, Joe?

It sounds so weird. We got a paper-wrought scissor who gets the third. It sounds so weird, but it's... No, we don't have to. No, you don't understand. The Rivets, my friends who live up there, they've got a whole... They have 30 or 40 different spots where they put people. Yeah, but Joe...

They have a serious organization. But also, dude... And they have people. Yeah, but Joe, hold on. Listen, they have a serious organization. But also, dude. And they have to. They get two tags per hunter a year. You're supposed to kill two mature boars a year. Jesus. Hey, dude, I'm an experienced hunter. You stand the fuck down until I get my trophy,

and then you let me secure your hips. You said trophy. That's a taboo word. You're not supposed to say that. Why? There's no trophy killing you, son of a bitch. Hey, bro, I'm ambitious. That's why I'm not a real hunter.

I will brine that meat. I'll eat it all year. Let me ask you this. As a legit stand-up comedian, I respect you and love you. Thank you. When someone says, what's the difference between a comic and a comedian, do you explain it or do you say, fuck you and walk away? I say, fuck you and walk away.

Good for you. That's real. Yeah. That's what we're talking about here. It's true. Listen to me. You stand down. You stand down.

You follow my fucking lead. You stay a couple inches behind me. Hey, bro. Don't talk when I'm talking. You're not a hunter. I'm an experienced hunter. You're not a hunter. Why do you say that?

When it's time for you to fucking shoot and your breathing's going to be very irregular, can I help you guys? And I help you with your breathing? You understand because your breathing is like this And I go hey hey hey hey hey hey and I smack your face a couple times ago look at me I kiss your mouth as a man as a friend. I kiss your mouth. It wakes you the fuck up there It is look at me You're behind him Joe's behind you're breathing into your neck

and you you key into that rhythm and i'm breathing into your mouth and we breathe all together as men let me ask you this can i just step in for a moment buddy go ahead why do you want to belittle him in this weird way where you say you're not a hunter where you know he's killed at least we kill three deer three deer one in montana two in wisconsin three deer bro he kill, three deer? Yeah, three deer. One in Montana, two in Wisconsin. Three deer, bro. He's killed three deer in Eaton, though. That's a hunter. Is it? Dude, he's made great shots. I'm telling you, Brian Callen made 150,

160 yard shot on your first deer? I think so, something like that. He made two 100 yard shots on his second and third deer. No, that's crazy. No, no, no, no, you don't understand. When you're shooting at a living creature And it's all about getting it right and and trigger discipline. No, it's a big deal It's not easy and Brian. Oh, I get it every time he's attempted it and he's eating those animals

Hey, look at me City boy I have him tell me he doesn't like hunting. Joe, I have him tell me he doesn't like hunting. No, I love hunting. That's why I say it. City boy. I don't make kids shit. City boy. You shit.

What the fuck? Let me explain. City boy. I snitched on him. I snitched on him. City boy. You're the platinum stitch. I love hunting.

You're the platinum stitch. I love hunting. You're above Novitski with your arms up in the air like Robbie Lawler after he won by knockout. Listen to me. I love hunting. You're the platinum stitch. I love hunting. You're above Novitski with your arms up in the air like Robbie Lawler after he won by knockout. Listen to me. I love hunting. I don't actually like killing the animal, but I like hanging out with Joe. I had to drop that bomb. I don't like killing the actual animal, but I like hanging with Joe and I like going.

That's a fact. Listen, there's a... That's real i do admit that i don't like killing the animal is the the part but i but i want it's time to do what i do it but but i but i love the experience we have we laugh harder i make that fucker laugh harder than anybody ever met that that he gets that high-pitched wheeze it's fake let me tell you let me tell you what happened in montana we did kill him we were in the in the Weez They're lying to each other It's fake laughs He's not a hunter He didn't find him funny Let me tell you

Let me tell you what happened in Montana I'd kill him We were in the In the bush That's how we talk about it We were in the bush We were on the same That's the reality show

The same routes Yeah for sure It's bonding bro It's a bonding experience When Lewis and Clark Traveled across the west That's where we went We were on the Missouri River

Yes We were in the Missouri breaks In Montana It was fucking fantastic miserable five days of dick jokes 100% it was all cock and gay stuff and Brian doing this bit to today to this day is one of the hardest things I've ever Like like hyperventilating tears running down my face. It's maybe six degrees outside What does it do it? It's doing the room ravine comer. Where I was jerking off into a

ravine. I killed this deer and we were gutting this deer and Brian's eating its eyeballs. Really? Yeah, he ate the tallow behind his eyeballs. He does? Yes. I'm fucking crazy. I ate the raw. I cut a piece off and ate it raw. Don't fuck around, bro. I'm a fucking hunter. What were you saying, Joe?

The flesh behind the eyeballs tastes like bread dough. Like dough. Steve Rinella gave it to me and I ate it. Yeah, that's right. Oh, no. So the hunger killed it off and then fed it to you. Go throw up in the fucking...

You can't even handle this conversation. Joe, keep going. So Callan does this... He starts doing this character called the Ravine Comer. Do it. We have this deer tied to this tree. We pull this deer down. We're fucking freezing.

We're fucking freezing. I remember like, oh my God, we're in Montana. The fucking ground is frozen. It's eight degrees outside. We're cutting this deer up and we decided to have a fire. So we had this little tiny little campfire. And Brian Cowan goes, when I get warm and I'm around deer, I like to come. And he gets near the bridge.

Not a bridge, like the cliff. I'm going to come and he gets he gets near the bridge Not a bridge like the cliff And he starts like oh he starts jacking off in front of this ravine and saying he's the ravine cover Cuz you asked me what I was doing We're crying it's me and Ronella and Mo We're tears rolling down our eyes. I love doing that. And he's like, I like to cum in the dirt. I'm fucking the world.

Skin that deer. Skin that deer. I'm taking cock to hand. I'm coming in this ravine. He was screaming, I'm coming. I'm coming. When you say you're coming like you're pooing, it's hilarious. I'm coming.

Didn't you say something about people on boats in the distance hearing your cries? Because we're like a couple of my we're gonna pack out with the meat he's like we're miles away from the river He's like my cries my cries of pleasure. They just keep jacking off it in the bushes thumb off as I thumb off I call it thumbing but it was five days of that I know it was five days of that. I know. It was five days of dick jokes. But you're the best audience. When I got you alone, you are the best audience because you fucking laugh hard.

And I just wait for my openings and I take them. I just take them. What about when I laugh? And some days I fucking, the other day, I was, Joe kept laughing and I was fucking finally out of ammunition. I didn't know what to do. And I just fucking, I was spazzing out and I go and I kicked the table over

and I go, I need some fucking attention. Who's that in the ammo? Who's that in the ammo? I didn't know what else to do. Doug Durham was there and I was making him laugh and I go, ah, fuck. Man, I kicked the table. I need some fucking attention. We barely had the energy

to sleep when we were in Wisconsin it was just always like fucking around it is it is on the grass you will laugh your ass off when you go down to bear here's the problem with hunting here's what hunting sucks you're cold you sleep on the floor it rains you don't see animals there's all kinds of things that sucks about hunting but guess what that's what brings you together you're all together in a tent yeah gale force wins and you're laughing your fucking balls off i listened to that podcast we did with ranella after you had talked about it it was great it was awesome and we did that podcast soaking wet miserable for five days in a row you were so cold in alaska you don't remember this but you were i remember and it was the morning and you couldn't get dry because all your shit was wet.

You didn't bring waterproof anything. And so you're wet. It's in the morning, 6 in the morning. You were shaking so badly. I don't know if you remember this. You were shaking so badly, and I was too cold and miserable to say anything. Your lips, your fucking lips were going back and forth. They're quivering.

They look like a shark when it's grabbed the fucking like what his lips work His lips his big fat fucking fat DSLs we're going like this They were literally going from left to right east to west east to west The way the way a pit bull shakes a fucking rabbit. And I was like, dude, those lips are fucking thick, meaty, and cold. That's all I kept saying. Do you remember the one night where it didn't rain for like a few hours and we started a

fire? Yeah. Do you remember that? With Cheetos. Yeah, man. And by the way, a fire is the best thing in the world. And you're so miserable. You're so miserable.

You don't jerk off. You don't jerk off.. And you're so miserable you don't jerk off. You don't jerk off. You take shits. You get up in the middle of the night. You gotta piss. I kneel and just go just an inch out of my fucking tent. I'm terrified. I piss right there.

You and me. Dan Doty and Mike. Remember Mike? We figured out how to make a fire with Cheetos. Yes. Was it Dan Doty's idea? Yes, Dan Doty. When you light Cheetos, Cheetos light on fire and all the bullshit that's in Cheetos. Best kindling.

Best kindling. Really? Dude, forget fire starters. A slow burn. Cheetos are incredible. Yes. They stay alight forever. What?

Bro, it's a slow. That's great to fucking know. Wait, is it the puff ones or the crunchy ones? No, regular Cheetos. That's the one thing all the zombie movies and TV shows didn't get. From this point on, they're going to use Cheetos. It's a slow burn. It's a beautiful burn.

We took some trees and we chopped trees down and hacked off the bottom of the trees because that was the driest spots. We hacked off the insides of the limbs because the outside of the limbs were more wet. We were desperado. We took paper and we started paper to develop a

wet fire. And wet fire means like it's touch and go the whole way. You're burning wet stuff. And you're trying to get the driest stuff that's available. And Cheetos saved our ass. And tell me if you... me but tell me if you didn't feel this tell me if you didn't feel this and i'm not being dramatic when i say this like that's not possible well that's true yeah that's very true but when you're in the middle of that majestic wilderness literally that doesn't care about you you do get a sense

there is a very there is a feeling of sadness a feeling of um being so insignificant that it makes you a little bit depressed sometimes yeah did you feel that did you ever feel that when we were sitting up at the top of this one of these ridges and you and i and um yannis were up there and we were taking a break and we sat up there and we glassed this uh canyon and it was the rain was coming in and going out and we're looking around and, um, and my team was there too. And we were just like, Jesus Christ, like this land doesn't give a fuck if you're here or gone. Yes.

It's going to be the same. Like you, it's like a realization that no matter what mark you think you're laying, it doesn't matter if you're fucking King Tut. It doesn't, it doesn't matter who you are. Ultimately it's all bullshit. Yes. Like you get this in this entirely temporary temporary existence, and the world and the universe is bigger. Yes.

Just a grain of sand. And that's hard to deal with because you want to pass your genes, and you want to be special, and you want to show greatness, and you want people to remember your name after you're gone. But ultimately, that's not really what's important. And when you're confronted with that reality, whether it's through psychedelic drugs, or whether it's through sitting on a mountain in prince of wales in alaska and you and best buddies sitting there going man we can't even fucking find a deer yeah we didn't find a deer for days and days it is so lonely it's such a lonely part of the world you can see for miles

and miles it what you think about it for me what I thought about it was exactly what he's talking about like the notion that I'm so I'm so insignificant and so much of my effort all day so much of my in a way so much of my effort it first of all you also realize how vulnerable you are without food and water without like

know-how without the culture and the accumulated know-how of how to survive in that environment. We should talk about what we bring. We bring freeze-dried foods and we bring some hard snacks like protein bars. No, we're fine.

We're not doing any surviving man shit. You're fine for six days. You're fine for six days. It's true. We have a limited supply and it lets you know that without this stuff, because we're not trying to live off this Mountain Ops food, or whatever the fuck it's called, whatever the meals are called. I don't think it's Mountain Ops.

Mountain Ops is a good protein company for hunters. But what you realize is if I didn't have the stuff that I brought with me, I'm not going to survive just living off the land. You would die. It's hard. It's hell. It's hard as hell. So you're saying you weren't worried about your Twitter follows, Instagram, you realize how much bullshit all that is? You need less sleep.

It's not even just that. How come your cell phone doesn't work? Isn't there satellites? No no no no. Cell phones are direct to rec. That's why you have those fake trees on the 405. Cell phones? I thought cell phones went to the satellites. No no no not at all. What's going to the satellite? GPS, which is global positioning satellites. I heard GPS is not satellites. I hear it's all land ground. No, that's not true. That's a lie.

Wait a minute. GPS, you're telling me. GPS is global positioning satellites. That's what it literally is. In space. Yes, absolutely. So GPS is not, like the GPS on your iPhone is run by satellites in space? This is how it works.

This is how it works. Is that correct? Let me explain by satellites. This is how it works Explain to you Eddie how it works No, no, no, no, I think it's all land-based based on YouTube science Let's avoid this we're just talking about just being alone being up there without any any Connection to what you are used to. Realize how small you are. I think it's good to get away from the cell phone and the bullshit. I think cell phones are awesome.

I think computers are awesome. I think Google's awesome. I think reality shows are awesome. I think Basketball Wives is awesome. I think it's hilarious. I think we should enjoy the most fucked up aspects of the greatest time people have ever been alive. I think it's amazing. the most fucked up aspects of the greatest time people have ever been alive.

I think it's amazing. But I think it's also good to push all this external dialogue aside and just how do you feel about the world? And how much of how you feel about the world is honest? And how much of how you feel about the world is objective? And how much of it is based on the actual world itself and not the opinions of all these other people around you? Get a good look at who you are and what you think about that. I try to do that every night.

I try to shut myself off like around. When I get home from jujitsu and teaching, if there's some important email I got to get to, I'll get to it. If there's an important text or call I got to get to. But generally, I'm going to watch some bullshit ass TV for about an hour and a half. I don't want to hear nothing about nothing. When you're hunting, Eddie? I want to watch some bullshit ass TV for about an hour and a half I don't want to hear nothing about nothing I want to watch some bullshit I'll get on YouTube and watch the hottest YouTube those usual escapes don't exist

and a lot of times for real what you have is just yourself and the sound of your breathing and darkness that sounds awesome it's a bit like being in a free fall if you're not used to it. And in the beginning, like the first two days,

you might panic a little bit or you might kind of need to hold on to something. Let me just back up here. You sleep in tents, Joe? Let me back up here. You sleep in tents? Yes, absolutely. Eddie, you're the first American to tap a Gracie.

There's no pussy in you. You don't have any pussy. I have a lot of pussy no you are as honest I'm a big pussy no no no you are as honest

I'm a fighter no you're honest about the way you feel I'm not trying to win no championships ever whereas a lot of people pretend I never try to do that a lot of people pretend that they feel different

than the way they actually feel yes but when you when push comes to shove and you perform it's one of the things like when we went to Sao Paulo like I'd seen you

compete in the trials you competed in Sango in the trials and those were the only times i saw you compete i saw you compete in the trials and i saw you compete on video we looked at some video before but when i saw you compete when we flew down to sao paulo sao paulo and uh i i saw you tap gustavo dantes who's a brazilian jiu-Jitsu world champion. I was like, oh, shit. Eddie Bravo knows how to perform under pressure. There's a moment in the fight. Let me tell you something about this. It's 2003, okay?

You tapped a world champion. Let me tell you something that happens. Eddie Bravo has got this dude in a position where a lot of traditional Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu referees, practitioners might not have understood what was going on. And he was moving towards this guy's back. And Eddie's holding on to him and the referee is insinuating that there's some stalling and there's going to have to be

some moving. And Eddie turns to him and looks at him and says, stalling? He goes, I'm not stalling. I'm about to take this dude's back. Damn. And Gustavo Dantas, he says, like, what? And then all of a sudden, Eddie takes his back and chokes him out and taps him and gets up and I'm like I put him in the truck first

but when you were in the truck that's when the referee stepped in and said that you were stalling I'm not stalling, I'm about to take his back no no, when he came in what happened was I swept him we both pulled guard, I forced pull guard, he pulled guard, I pulled guard

we're like trying to force each other. I forced him on top of me, swept him. And he stayed in a position. I had him in side control. And he stayed in a position basically fetal away from me. So as soon as he got up to his knees, I was going to the truck. Or if he came into me, I was going to the truck. But he stayed there for minutes.

I had him in side control. And he stayed there. And I'm like, are you going to go this way? Whatever way you go, I'm going to put you in the truck. But he didn't do shit. He stay there. And I'm like, are you going to go this way? Whatever way you go, I'm going to put you in the truck. But he didn't do shit.

He stayed there. He knew the system. Mark Lehman was in his corny saying, don't do nothing. So I was like, just sitting there. I'm like, okay.

Do you remember saying to the referee though, I'm about to take his back. The reason I said that, the reason I said that, no, the reason I said that,

the reason I said that was that I knew Mark Lehman's stories before. They said, dude, the referees in Brazil, they're going to fuck you. The Brazilians, refs, they don't like Americans. And I heard that, and I'm all scared. So I'm thinking this guy's actually going to stand me up. So the only reason I said anything is because I thought, oh, shit, this motherfucker's going to stand me up in Brazil. But the referee was talking to you

Yeah and I said I'm gonna So that's exactly what I said He's taking the long way But that's what I said But you know But what you're saying The important thing

Is you said I'm about to take his back Which is gangster as fuck I'm about to take his back And then he took his back And choked him out Which is not a pussy move Which is some gangster shit

But the only reason I said that Was because I said Don't stand me up because I said, don't stand me up. Yeah, but you said it. Don't stand me up. You didn't want him to stand you up, right? Yeah, but you said it. You wait. That's gangster.

Yeah, that's what he's saying. Because I was actually worried that they were going to stand me up. He said that. I think that, like, I was thinking about what bothers me the most. Like, that's why I appreciate you. You're talking about your friend. Like, what you did is pretty extraordinary. And you have to take moments in life to fucking say that.

Wayne McCullough, who's one of my favorite people on the fucking planet. I love that dude. I love that guy. Great guy. And somebody was talking to Wayne with a lack of respect to me, like in the boxing gym. They were acting like he was just a guy who holds mitts. And I said to the guy, I go, I got to just stop you for a second. This is fucking important to me.

Can I stop you? Yes. Did this really happen? Yes. You can ask Wayne. But listen, he'll get mad at me for saying this, but I want to say this. Listen to this. You asshole. You're such a dick.

Can I stop you? You're such a dick. You're such a dick, by the way. You're such a dick. But listen, listen to my point. My point is exactly what you were saying with Eddie. I said... A legit boxer didn't say this to you. What's that? A legit guy didn't say this to you. No. Yes. And I said... Was it a CrossFit dude? No, no,'t say this to you. No. Yes. Who said this to you?

Was it a CrossFit dude? No, no, no. The way the person was talking. Hashtag super paleo. I'm trying to be, I'm trying to, I'm trying to kind of talk around this because somebody wasn't treating Wayne

with the kind of respect he deserves. And I tried to explain, I said, listen to me, let me explain something. Is this a famous person? He was a fucking world champion. He was a world, like WBC champion.

Who are we talking about? Are we talking about the garbage man? Yeah, is it a famous person? Like, why won't you say his name? The dude working at Carl's Jr.? Yeah, what kind of guy is this? No, uh... Is he dropping off a package?

He was a guy who was trying to box at the... An actual boxer? Uh, no. Oh, he was just a guy. Yeah, just somebody who was like... Let's call him Greg. Yes, who's... Let's call him Greg.

Fuck Greg. Okay, so Greg was treating Wayne... Greg Brady. Greg was treating Wayne like, oh, hey, hold these mitts for me, essentially. You know what I mean? And I kind of, for me... That's what he does now, though. No, he does a lot more of that. Well, he teaches boxing. No, he's got a legit guy

who's fighting right now for a big fight. Yeah, he does hold mitts. But he teaches boxing. He does that a little bit. But the point I'm making is that you, in life, when you see somebody who accomplished a great deal, you've got to fucking give it up. You have to have respect for that. You have to have gratitude for it. You have to mark it.

You have to treat it with some reverence. I think reverence is important. Well, here's a shine box. I'm sorry to use him as an example because he'll get mad at me. Here's what is important. There's no reason to disrespect him. It's not like he's doing anything. Even if he wasn't a legend, you shouldn't disrespect him. you shouldn't right of course no but it's more than that but you know that he's

highly accomplished in the sport that you're attempting silver medal in the olympics it's amazing but it's your fucking champion boxer but but but here's kidding but here's what i'm saying it's like why would you want to say bad things about him ever but people what i'm saying is people they might not know yeah but people who don't express gratitude like that and don't. He's an older boxer, though. So it might be the young guy who has no idea. Here's what it is. So now you know the guy.

That's what bothered me. People know that when you have something and it's amazing and then you lose it, you realize you're not as great as you once were. So they recognize that Wayne McCullough was a world champion boxer, a silver medalist in the Olympics, and his athletic peak, he was loved throughout the land, and he's not there anymore. So they recognize this as an opportunity to see someone who has diminished from their previous heights, and they try to attack. Exactly.

They try to attack him to make him feel bad because they know psychologically that this has to have some sort of an effect on the way his self-esteem. But also because they never touched that. Because they never fucking came close to that kind of accomplishment. I know, but that's why they're doing it. But that's why they're doing it. Because they're trying to bring him down.

Exactly. It's an animal instinct. Exactly. It's an animal instinct. God, that's a bummer. But I hate that shit. All haters are losers. Exactly.

Correct. They have to be. And that's what I was experiencing recently. You can't be a winner and also be a hater. Exactly. They don't go. Exactly. Correct. They have to be. And that's what I was experiencing recently. You can't be a winner and also be a hater. Exactly. They don't go. Exactly. Yeah.

And that's what I was trying to say. I go, if you can't celebrate and have some reverence for what that dude did, or anybody like that, that's your fucking problem and that holds you back. Well, they've never been beat up then, probably. You're right, buddy. Yeah. You're right. Ray McCullough was so good, dude.

Pocket Rocket? What? Such a good legend. And a fucking gentleman. God damn it. You ever watch Joe Calzaghe? I'm throwing this cheese away. You ever watch Joe Calzaghe? Fuck yes. Dude, I was watching some Joe Calzaghe training footage that somebody put on Twitter today. I was like, Jesus Christ. Trained by his dad, man.

Oh my God. Monster. It's a beast. His fucking hand speed was retarded. It was so fast. He lost to Hopkins, right? No, he beat Hopkins. He beat Roy Jones Jr., beat Hopkins, retired. He beat Roy later. Undefeated.

He beat Hopkins? He beat Hopkins? Yes, he did. He beat Hopkins. He beat Roy Jones Jr. We just don't accept him because he wasn't a medicano. Because he was an English gentleman. Yeah, he gets no credit. Listen, Joe

Calzaghe is like an all-time great. Rugged motherfucker. 46-0. He might have retired. Does it have his record? 46-0. That's his fucking record. I've been sleeping on Calzaghe. I've been sleeping on Calzaghe,

motherfuckers. Roy Jones, Bernard Kessler. He beat a lot of them. Jeff Lacey was one of his I've been sleeping on Kazaki, motherfuckers. You can't sleep on Kazaki. Roy Jones, Bernard. Bernard Hopkins. Holy shit. Kessler. He beat a lot of them. Jeff Lacey. Jeff Lacey was one of his big wins early on in his career. Tucker Pudwell?

He beat Bernard Hopkins. Who's named Tucker Pudwell? He beat Roy Jones Jr. What was the year of that fight? 08. 08. He beat Bernard and Roy in the same year. Honestly, Roy was not the Roy of his prime. In 08, they were both past their prime.

In 08, he was still pretty badass, wasn't he? No. Roy? Well, he's, look, listen. Compared to everybody in this room, he's badass right now. If we all had to get in there. Roy Jones Jr. can have five tequila shots and box the shit out of everyone in this room. I think everyone in this room can take that silly bitch down.

Fuck that dude. Hey, man. This ain't no boxing match. Have some fucking reverence. This is what I'm talking about, you hater motherfucker. Oh, yeah, man. You're the one.

That's not hating. You went dark. That's real life. I'm a critical thinker. I sat directly behind Roy Jones Jr. And this was my monologue in my head. I was going like this. I was going, that's the one with greatest of all time. And then monologue in my head. I was going like this. I was going, that's the one with the greatest of all time.

And then I was doing this. I was saying stuff like this. He's got a lot of fast twitch muscle. Look at his fucking traps. He's got a weird head. I bet he can move that head. He can kick my ass right now. I wonder what I would do if I had to fight him in a jail cell.

These are all the questions I ask. Fight him in a jail cell? He's 49 years old. I'm asking these questions. In a jail cell? You ever seen his dick pic? In an elevator He's taking me down

I wonder what his women feel Taking you down? He's gonna take you down? Why would he shoot on you? Knock me down What? Wait listen In elevators

You get your best shot I know He's not getting away In an elevator I double leg the fuck Out of my high school double He's got a dirty butt too High and tight

The shoulders come up The hands go in You shoot in What's he doing? He's hitting elbows He's got no gloves on He's hitting fucking elbows What is he doing? You's hitting elbows. He's got no gloves on. He's hitting fucking elbows. You're fucking hitting bone, motherfucker.

That's what I say as I fucking bring his knees in. Hey, Jim. I bring him in, up, down. And then I arm bar him with my bad arm bar, my blue belt arm bar. Brendan, what do you think about that? I don't do that. Have you guys ever rolled?

Have we rolled? Have I rolled with heavyweight Brendan Shaw? With heavyweight? Like a real roll, eight minute round, let's go for real. Dude, with Brendan Shaw. Is that a yes or no? We've rolled a ton. I always fuck with him. I have grabbed him in a perfect head and arm lock, thrown my hips out judo style, brought

his head and his arm in with a gable grip, kept my chin tight, and looked at him and gone. He was trying to take a nap, and I go, you're going fucking nowhere, motherfucker. And had him tight. I mean, arm and head tight judo. Hips splayed.

Hips splayed. Fucking, what's his name? Here you go. This is another one. This is Greco this I'm just chilling he's tapping me immediately he's like the ground he's amazing with no hormone supplements you don't just break nah fuck you fuck you that's high look at that high fucking you look like you'd be super fragile look at what he's doing if I was was near that, I'd be like, so, so, so, so, so. He tapped me. He tapped me.

Yeah, a ton. Has he ever gotten you? No, Eddie. No, man. The 49-year-old comic did not beat me up, man. Eddie, Eddie. It's not a compliment. I'm not beating you up.

Eddie, he fucking... I just want to catch you every now and then. What? You guys got to stop talking over each other. I know, but I mean, I couldn't do... If I had a fucking gun, it would be a problem. He does whatever he wants. That's why you got to let him come.

I've been talking about that all night. It always comes back to the coming. Help him come, man. Help him come. He's less aggressive. There's a reason why big people exist. They were better at war. We've been podcasting for four hours.

Who gives a fuck? Why are you measuring time? It's all bullshit. Is this still going, though? Who gives a fuck? I thought we weren't allowed to. We could do whatever we want. It's like we're in Alaska.

It's just us, man. But, Jamie, I thought we had to be cut off at three hours. No more rules. I'm tired. I can't do it anymore. No octagon cages. We'll break this podcast up into part one and part two. I can't be employed anymore.

This is amazing. I can't do it anymore. I don't have it left in me. It's drained like a sponge. It doesn't exist. I want to be free. Hey, this podcast for us, thanks to your urging, has been a life changer. I told you.

It's been a life changer. Can I show you guys that movie trailer? No. Excuse me. We're talking about podcasts. We're blowing each other. The what? Excuse me.

We're going to check your love for a movie trailer. Jamie wants to talk about tickling. I definitely want to see it. No, Jamie. I was trying to encourage Eddie Bravo into bringing back Eddie Bravo Radio and you want to talk about tickling. Eddie, I don't have to get punched in the face anymore

because of the podcast. I loved doing my podcast but I feel like sometimes when you do a podcast and you get a new audience and you have to tell the fucking same story over and over. I hate saying the same, you know, when people start saying it, here he goes again. Why would you say the same story over and over?

Because, you know, it comes up. You're in a podcast. I've done that. You got to say, you got to kind of, you got to get abbreviated and say, I've talked about this before. But unfortunately, unless that's like cut up in like a clip it's hard for people who just started to listen to your podcast to find that so it becomes annoying it's like you're because you're speaking to so many people like you were getting like what like 50 100 000 downloads how many downloads no i don't know how many you're getting nothing whatever you're getting nothing let's

think let's say let's say you're getting 5 000 even if you're getting 5 000 that's 5 000 fucking people in an arena i mean Ari and I had this conversation When we first started talking about Twitter Because Ari would get on Twitter and he's like I only got 2,000 followers And I go what would you think If you went to a show and you're like It's only 2,000 people You would never think that

You'd be like holy shit there's 2,000 people He's like you're right I go yeah I'm right There's 2,000 people listening And eventually you're going to say yeah i'm right yeah there's two thousand people listening and eventually you're gonna say something funny and someone's gonna find out about it i'm gonna spread it to five people they'll spread it to ten and you'll have 1500 people in six months how many twitter followers do you have till rogan um i don't know over a million 1.9 or something like that what is it jamie what is it jamie 1.9 yeah 1.9 or something like that? What is it, Jamie? What is it, Jamie? 1.9 million? 1.9 million.

How about Instagram followers? 1.1 million. Damn. Damn, it's crazy you know. Listen, you guys will have that too. It's an accumulative effect. There's girls out there that just do nothing but stick their ass in front of a camera. They have like 10 times as many as me.

God bless them. Weird, huh? Isn't that crazy? I found this Russian broad. Oh, my God. I almost jerked off in front of my friends. Let me see her. She's so hot.

She's that hot? Didn't make any sense. What's her name? I'm not gonna tell you. It's frustrating, man. I don't wanna get more followers. Dude, please tell me who she is. Now I have to know.

You're hating on her now, dude. It's 10 fucking PM. We'll talk later. I don't remember it. Come on, bro. Don't be a baby. I don't. I don't remember it. Jamie, you know. I bet it's the one I just randomly found, too. Uh, dark hair or light hair?

Dark. Yeah. You guys can give her a bunch more followers. Either bet it's the one I just randomly found, too. Dark hair or light hair? Dark. Yeah. You guys can give her a bunch more followers. Either way. Jamie, bring her up. Either way, she's a hot girl. Let's move on. Let's move on.

This is what's important. It's about consistency. Like, when you're using social media, it's about honesty and consistency. And you guys are super honest and you're super consistent. So, it's going to be people who don't like you. It's inevitable be people don't like you it's inevitable people don't like me they don't like eddie oh jesus jesus lord turn that off she's a good girl those are muscular quads yeah she does some squats uh yeah that bitch can jump over buildings i'm gonna come that bitch can jump rope your dick. Oh my god. We're fucking clans. Don't make me. Oh my god. Hey guys.

Jamie, stop it. God damn, Jamie. Those claws are a little much. Those claws are a little much. That's too big. That's too big. One more. One more, Jamie.

That's too big. What I'm thinking about is the milking properties of that. Can we take it down just a little, Jamie? All I'm thinking about is the milking properties of that pussy. Not so much muscle. The fact that pussy's like... Like a vice. Like a farmer's hand.

It's like squeezing out a wet pair of socks. A farmer's hand. A farmer's hand. You guys want to come or what? Well, no, I don't want in. I don't want in with that. It's down by the river with a fucking set of sheets. That bitch is on some acai.

Her quads are way too jacked. It's the let's come podcast, guys. Hey, one more picture of that girl for the hell of it. No, no more. No more. No more. The creep.

Who brought the fucking Puritan to the party? You know what's the beautiful thing about podcasts? What, do you wear belts on your hats? The beautiful thing about podcasts is that what we have, all of us together, is like a legit network. Not just us, but everybody else out there. You know, there's always been networks

like CBS and ABC and NBC, but those networks are like businesses. But we're a network of friends. That's a new thing. That's a new thing. Everything that you do helps me. Everything that I do helps you. We all help each other.

You guys come on my podcast. We blow it up on Twitter. We put it up on Instagram. We do a fight companion all together. Everybody blows up. This is a network, like an organic network, as opposed to like a business network where we sat down and said, I need to control 40% of this and conglomerate. And there's no agenda.

We're lawyers. Where is the paperwork? It's just friends. There's no agenda, like a business network. No paperwork. Everybody's cool. Everybody helps everybody. Hold on.

If there's ever shows that need to be tweeted, everybody's cool. Everybody helps everybody. If there's ever shows that need to be tweeted, everybody's happy to tweet for everybody. I see everybody doing it. We all do it for each other. All our comedian friends do it for each other. I didn't notice that shirt. The Keto Kid? Get your slim on. He's Keto. You don't even know about that shirt

and you're in the business with him? I don't have him sign off on it. This is the first time he's seen it. He's barely paying attention. You just make shirts and I'm like, hey, good job. They go on sale this week, Brian. I called him the Keto Kid at the beginning of our last podcast together. It's awesome.

I was in Arizona this week and people were yelling, I'm Keto Kid. I'm the kid too. And this is fucked up because you've got to- Well, he's the Keto Kid. He's the Keto Kid. It's more legit. If you put something before kid for me, what would call me the old kid no creepy kid i call you creepy kid creepy kid for sure creepy kid the pervy kid mildly delusional kid wrinkly kid the wrinkle kid

the lying kid the lying how about the fact that my dad how about the fact that i told the story like a really good long story dramatic and my, in front of a bunch of people, goes like this. Like, friends. And he goes, now how much of that story do you think is actually true? That's rough. I was like, you motherfucker. Well, the problem is you understand drama so well that you'll occasionally sprinkle it in as long as you keep the ethics of the original idea of the story intact. Don't know what you're talking about, sir.

Don't know what you're talking about. Good story, Dylan. You are more concerned with the entertainment value of what you're saying than you are the veracity of the truth involved in the statements. I'm outraged. Who's that? Benjamin Button? AKA Brad Pitt?

Who's that? Why are we showing that guy? Jamie decides to spice it up. Hey, Jamie, with the random. Shows a naked man in the mirror with glasses on. Yeah. Benjamin Button flexing. I think overall, you would never change the actual

results of the story you're talking about. But you would flavor that story with additional spices that weren't in the original recipe. He's like a lawyer. You'll throw some shit in there to make it better, and I appreciate that. We took a lie detector test. But as a good friend, I have to throw things through a filter.

And when you tell me something, I have to go, skeptical hippo. I gotta go, I love to go, hmm. Skeptical hippo. Skeptical hippo. I got to go, I love this dude, but let me see where I go with this. Where is he going with this? Every story. Yeah. Hey, I took a lot of text messages.

I said, ask me all the type 100 questions you want. Are you a psycho? No, the problem was that she goes, you're a complete liar. That's just when Brian tells any story. So what happened? Well, she said, she goes, I lied across the board. You lied about everything? She said he lies about everything.

There were things he knew were true that he asked me to see, and it just didn't work out. So I wiggle a lot, and I sweat. Here's the thing about a lie detector test, okay? Here's the thing. As soon as you're measuring something, you're changing what that thing is, because you're making someone conscious of the fact that you're measuring it. And so if you're a completely self-conscious person who's always aware of how people are viewing them like brian callen yeah which is one of the reasons why you're so entertaining is because you really want everybody

around you you're very accommodating yes and you're a very like like brian like way more than me he suffers fools like we're around fools i'm like i am seeing a fucking wasted time is a cloud coming we got to get in the car we got to get out of here brian loves him an idiot oh my god he loves Like, we're around fools. I'm like, I am seeing a fucking wasted time. There's a cloud coming. We got to get in the car. We got to get out of here. Oh, Brian loves him an idiot. Oh, my God. He loves it. He loves it.

He loves him a doofus. Brian loves him an idiot. But it's because he's so accommodating. Yeah. He's like such a nice guy. And I can't do it anymore. One of my favorite pastimes is to go through my life and think about how much time I would have saved if I had just walked away from certain people.

You just listen to me. You love an idiot. How many times have I told told you yes, this has been a dozen times like a lot of guys retarded This girl's crazy. Yeah, I'm like we got to get away from him. Yeah, like this guy's gonna fucking take you to jail You and I will both tell him about the same guy. Oh, you don't know hold up. You don't know the same guy No, see I know No, you do not. I know Brian Callen from 1994. No, no.

I thought you were talking about the guy who's a liar. Which was a totally different crazy person. Yes. Brian Callen from 1994. I can't imagine. 28 years old? This is like, you know how the- Rock hard, dude.

You know how you have those goggles that people wear when they go swimming and they're doing laps in the pool? Yes. Imagine if you took those and you painted black around everything except like a pencil eraser in the center of each one of those, and that's how you looked at the world. That's how Brian would navigate life. Just girls.

Girls and retarded friends. Are you an idiot? You a girl? And good food. When he'd have these friends and I'd meet these guys, I'd be like, oh, yeah, hey, nice to meet you. Come here.

You got to get the fuck away from this guy. What are you doing? Why are you hanging out with this guy? But throw in two dogs and parents. And parents. And books. And moving girls. And books.

I'd read all kinds of crazy shit. I'd come over to his house, and he's got no doorknob. Okay, first of all. He has no doorknob. No doorknob. He lives in Venice Beach. He's got no doorknob. I walk in his house.

He's got a book sitting on the table, and it's like a Jack Kerouac book I'm like you're not reading that book you want girls to think you're reading that book. Well, I called you Oh my god, you fucking I called him up. I go dude. I'm lazy There's this girl who went to Princeton She was fucking really smart and I called Joe I go I have to call you because you need to know that I'm a fraud But if I tell you I'm a fraud, I'm not a frog. Okay, bro. I'm laying books out about around my fucking place So the girl thinks I read and I'm keeping I'm opening the pages fraud i'm not a fraud so i go bro i'm laying books out about around my fucking place so the girl thinks i read and i'm keeping i'm opening the pages yeah i was like but the fact that i'm

telling my my best friend that i'm doing that it means i'm not a fraud like i'm lying but i'm not lying to you that's the rule this is a true statement but the chronology the chronology is broken i had informed him first that he was a fraud with his books on the coffee table, and I knew it. And he denied it and then admitted it and then called me. All right. That's the actual. See, there you go. I don't know about that.

But it's 100% true. Yeah. But you did come clean. Eventually. You have to come clean. You cannot lie to your friends. Your friends have to know who you are, man. You have to come clean.

You cannot lie to your friends. Your friends have to know who you are, man. But isn't that funny? Isn't that funny? Is that like being a guy who is like secretly deep, is attractive somehow to the genetics of a woman, is searching for a man with character because the guy who's secretly deep, who can deal with shit, maybe gets up in the morning, sets his alarm clock at 4 a.m., goes running up a hill, that guy can understand what it's like to overcome pressure. I think so. And that's appealing to women's genetics.

Yes. Because they know that this whole supermarket highway thing, this ain't going to last. No shit hits the fan. This is great for a small, brief window of history, but there's a thing called a super volcano. Yes. And it's sitting in Yellowstone National Park. And it's a continent killer.

And every six to eight hundred thousand years, it fucking explodes. And everything dies. And the earth gets cool. Because it goes into nuclear winter. And the last time it happened was eight hundred thousand years ago. And it's fucking coming.

So, you better enjoy this. Yeah. Enjoy this. So fuck the musker, guys, that wake up in the morning. Be ready. Listen, you don't understand what you're doing. Be ready for what? For the fucking volcano and lava, you pussy.

And I hunt. You stay behind me once again. There's no ready. And I'll find the fucking food. This is what I think. You can't control your breathing. We're going gonna starve. The universe is just as content with us being hit by a fucking asteroid and being knocked back down to single-celled organisms.

As it is, us succeeding and figuring out a way to get to Mars. The universe is just as happy with either result. You can find all this paperwork in that fucking Air Force base in Laurel Canyon. You're talking about Mr. Little's place. You're talking about Mr. Little. Look into it.

I am going to. There can be no doubt that the government has tried to manipulate the consciousness of the population. There can be no doubt. Power over people. You never do that. There could be no doubt. Boom. There could be no doubt. Power over people.

They did it for them. You should do it. And Nixon was a fucking total sneaky piece of shit. I mean, that's what Nixon's whole deal. Look, they've proven that Nixon's war on drugs was about controlling the civil rights movement and controlling the anti-war movement. It's 100% been proven. It's one of the things that's being discussed right now

in mainstream newspapers and mainstream magazines. The reason why they went after marijuana and mushrooms and LSD is because they wanted to silence the anti-war people and the civil rights people. Period. Boom. But they didn't create the doors. No. But they

did, but they didn't mean to. Here's the thing. You can't engineer beautiful creativity. Don't you love her badly? You can't do that. You didn't mean to. Here's the thing. You can't engineer beautiful creativity. Don't you love her badly? You can't do that. You can't do that. Break on through to the other side. Break on through to the other side. That guy is...

Listen, Ellie. Eddie, you're a brilliant creative guy. And one of the reasons why you're brilliant and creative is because you were repressed as a child. You encountered a lot of stress and bullshit why you're brilliant and creative is because you were repressed as a child. You encountered a lot of stress and bullshit and a lot of people that were counting against you. They were rooting against you. And you figured out a way to rise through that and figure your way through this maze

of life on your own. And it's because of that pressure that created this creativity, in my opinion. I mean, I might be wrong. You wrong like the doors of jiu-jitsu But I think that's it this the same thing that happens to a lot of guys whether it's Kurt Cobain or Jimi Hendrix or or Jim Morrison, I think you you deal with the wrong you see the wrong thing You see a dad who's an alcoholic or beats his mom and this fucking chaos in the house gets repossessed and you see all the flaws of the people before you. And oftentimes the most together people

are the people that grew up with parents that weren't together because they realized, whoa, I got to realize what these people are doing wrong and I got to get it right myself. So when you see a guy like Jim Morrison, who's this fucking brilliant freak who came out of nowhere, if you really look at musical history, but this is what I'm saying if you really look at musical history exactly but this is what i'm saying if you look at musical history like the 1950s were like the

doorway to this rock and roll thing like elvis came through and jerry lee lewis and there's very suppressive time too and but there's all this weird music came through and then the beatles and then there was these rock motherfuckers and there was all these drugs that are involved and there's also the war and everybody's trying to get the fuck away from the war and the civil rights movement

where black people hadn't been able to vote in 1964 was when they were granted the right to vote so it has all 1964 it has all the elements

of a classic suppression and response to the suppression creative outburst and that creative outburst is one of the most beautiful artistic accomplishments of the human race. If you look at the 1960s, look at the Beatles, you look at Led Zeppelin, look at the Doors,

look at the Who, look at the music of the 60s, look at Jefferson Starship. Oh my God. No one's writing great music on antidepressants. It's not happening. All I'm saying is I don't know what the fuck's going on. All I'm saying, if it's true, if, it might not even be true, if it's true that all those bands came from Laurel Canyon

and they were all kids of Air Force intelligence officers, that's fucking weird. Maybe that's what they related on. Yeah, but You don't understand That they would The parents would be busy at work They don't even have time To spend time with their fucking kids

I love their kids The kids Eventually wind up being drug addicts They go to school They smoke cigarettes They hang out with the cool kids They go hang out by the fucking auto shop And they learn how to fix tires

And none of them got drafted None of them got drafted None of them got drafted Well without a doubt Without a doubt The parents would use their influence to keep their children from being drafted. Of course. It's happened throughout history. Who wouldn't, though? And coincidentally, they become rock stars.

And coincidentally, they become rock stars. All of them, Eddie. That's a coincidence. All of them. But you're assuming that you're assuming. Everyone that's all the bands, yes. All the bands, yes. All of them.

You're assuming the most preposterous thing. All of them. They're all friends. Eddie. Eddie. No. You're assuming the most preposterous thing. They're all friends. Eddie, you're assuming the most preposterous thing. You're assuming that the most creative, beautiful moment in music history, arguably, the 1960s,

was created by retards so fucking stupid they got a job with the government. How dare you. I'm not saying shit. I'm just saying it's weird. It's so far-fetched. It's not fucking weird, Eddie. It's obvious. There's suppression and there's response. Don't you recognize

but do you not recognize, Eddie, do you not recognize suppression? Top secret Air Force intelligence base making propaganda films in Laurel Canyon. All those bands, you can name them all. The Doors, The Eagles, Linda Ronstadt, all of them. They were all kids.

Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. The people that work there. What would be the benefit? That's weird shit. What would be the benefit the government would have with making awesome music like The Doors music? Besides being awesome? I don't know.

I don't know. You tell me. The government's awesome. They got through to the other side. The government doesn't have a music department. Think about this. Jim Morrison's father orchestrated the Gulf of Tonkin. What about your dad?

What about my dad? I don't even talk to that fucking dude. Exactly. My dad didn't orchestrate nothing. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Both of us don't even talk to our dads. Why the fuck would you assume that Jim Morrison talked to his dad?

I would assume that Jim Morrison is such a bad motherfucker. He was close to his father. Oh, come on. If you're close to your dad, you don't do acid. You don't pull your dick out of Miami and get arrested. It's a legit point. Guys with good to his father. Oh, come on. If you're close to your dad, you don't do acid. You don't pull your dick out of Miami and get arrested. It's a legit point. Guys with good dads

don't pull their dicks out. God damn it, you guys. This podcast is out of fucking control. And these antlers have fur on them. It's in control. And that's velvet. Velvet. I hated the doors.

That's a mule deer. That's velvet. That's a nice fucking mule deer. Hey, are we going to shoot some mule deer with my bow? There's no way you're doing anything by that time unless you get some serious practice. I don't think you understand how difficult

it is even to hit a target. You just said how great he is. I'm getting my bow fixed. I did not. He's never even shot an arrow. He came over to my house once and couldn't pull my bow back. Hey, that's bullshit. I wasn't there. You tell the truth.

What happened? I had a fucking trick. I have a trick shoulder. Shoulder's jacked. Fucking 90-pound bow. Fuck that 90-pound bow. I got a 60-pound bow. He hasn't pulled a bow back yet.

But we have to... It's not ethical at this stage. Because we're talking about going out in August and right now it's almost June you think you're killing cuz you started small with little birds and shit you think you'll ever get to the bears and shit do you think why not first of all whales first of all killer whales you don't eat them and they're intelligent I don't want to eat bears are. Bears are very smart. They're smart compared to what? They know to eat their babies because their baby's going to come back to hunt them later.

So that's how smart they are. That's like FBI shit right there. That's not intelligence. That's not intelligence. That's not vision, bro. That's not vision. I'm not mad at that argument, Eddie. Come on.

That's like this motherfucker, he's a little baby right now, right now, but he's going to grow up really quick. He's smart. And this motherfucker's going to try to fuck my shit up, I better eat him while he's a little baby. After a while, you learn that shit in the wild. That's the law of the fucking wilderness. That's not why they kill each other. They kill their babies because it brings the female back into heat so they can fuck them.

That's another good reason. Because when they're in heat- I like that. So what happens is the female will have a cub, and then they'll go into their den, and they'll hibernate in their den. They come out in the spring, and the male will be horny but the female's like i already have babies fuck you and then so the male eats the typical not anymore yeah it's like the same old shit species the species the species is the same shit whoa he got crazy you know what i'm talking about i gotta pee hold on you guys talk for the first time I've ever seen like four

hours yeah man we're 20 it's a piss marathon 420 oh my god my wife's gonna kill me okay someone keep the podcast oh yeah let me do some doors here okay ladies and gentlemen Jim Morrison no I walk away for a second, he starts texting people. Hey, bro. This is a goddamn podcast. We're good. We're good.

Show me how badass you want to be. Do some of your... You want to be a fucking warrior. Show me... Tell me, Eddie. I hear you want to be a warrior. Tell me how bad you want to be a fucking warrior.

Tell me how bad you want it. You want it bad? Dude, I fucking practice sidekick until I start coming off the ground. That's what I heard. Yeah. That's real want it. You want it bad? Dude, I fucking practice sidekick until I start coming off the ground. That's what I heard. Can I be honest with you? I'm not trying to be a dick. My jab, to practice my jab, I catch birds out of the air. I know

it sounds weird, but I do. Eddie, I hate to be a dick, but the other day Brian was telling me how he thinks the whole 9-11 thing is just, he thinks you're full of shit. Of course, he's on that side I love Eddie. No matter no matter no matter. I like Eddie so much that I never argue with him No matter what?

You don't argue with him. You're the only guy I'm gonna argue with. I don't argue with him because I like Eddie too much. I don't argue. How many times have I said that on our podcast? I go I I I even the one he goes into is no because I like him too much Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh I would love to believe the government and everything they say, too. I would fucking love that. No, I don't believe everything they say. No, no, no, I'm talking about Brian.

He believes everything they say. No, I don't think he does. No, no. Brian, you don't believe everything the government says? Tell me one big incident, one tragic incident. He said he doesn't trust them. No, he totally does, because he trusts everything about 9-11, and there's holes everywhere. So if you trust watching Tower 7 completely free fall on video

from five different angles and you believe the government eight years later when they finally came out and they said, oh, it got too hot. Yeah. You believe that shit, you're on that side. There's nothing you, that's the litmus test. There's nothing you could say to those guys. Nothing. I give up. That's why I go to Tower

7. I go, do you believe Tower 7 collapsed at free fall speed because it got hot? If they say yes, then I'm up. That's why I go to Tower 7. I go, do you believe Tower 7 collapsed at free fall speed because it got hot? If they say yes, then I'm done. I'm done. Well, that doesn't mean he believes all government. No, no, no. If you believe that, that's the worst one. It's on video, five different angles.

There's many on video demolition experts looking at this and saying, Hey, there are a lot of demolition experts that don't agree with that. You don't have any video amazing there's no amazing debunking all of your theories okay okay they did so you believe tower seven collapsed at freefall speed because it got too hot I don't know anything about exactly I know nothing about that exactly do you know when they asked when do you know what let me educate you a little bit when they had a press conference when they had a press conference with NIST, the National Institute of Standard and Technologies,

they're the ones that came out and explained what happened to Tower 7. When they asked them, did you guys check for explosives? Damn, Tower 7. Why didn't you check for explosives? It's really simple. It's like kindergarten shit. When they asked the head of NIST, why didn't you check for explosives? Why didn't you test for explosives on Tower 7?

They said there was no reason to. There was no testimonial. I used to eat lunch in that building. There was no witnesses. Meanwhile, there's about an hour of witnesses, firemen, policemen, saying, bombs went off, bombs went off. There's video of bombs going off, bombs went off, boom. And the guy said, we didn't check for bombs because there was no eyewitness testimony.

What about that, Brian? Who flew those planes in the building? Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Was it remote control? There's nothing anybody can say. It was remote control? I have to do something.

I can say to you, there's nothing I can say. I provided complete video evidence for you. I broke it down for you. Here's the problem. And you're still saying, that's still not enough. How much is enough? There's nothing I can say to you. Let me play devil's advocate. I broke it down for you. Here's the problem. You're still saying that's still not enough. There's nothing I can say to you. I haven't said anything. I've said nothing to you.

What else do you need? Let me play devil's advocate momentarily. Let me play devil's advocate momentarily. When you look at Tower 7, it clearly looks like a controlled demolition. It looks like the way it implodes, it falls into its base. It looks like a controlled demolition, right? It looks like the way it implodes. I haven't seen it in so long. It falls into its base.

It looks like a controlled demolition. Is it possible that you could get a diesel fire in a building where the fuel burns so hot that it fucks up all of the supporting beams to this building and it all just gives out and pancakes on each other? That's impossible. I'm not a structural engineer, so I don't know. When structural engineers, this is what happens. There's 100,000 architects and engineers in the Association and one by one it was like 200 then it was 1500 you're wrong about

that no no it's true that they denied that you're simply wrong let's watch it let's watch it fires made the building do that fire I don't know, Eddie. Let me tell you. That's crazy. Let me give you my feeling. You're not all over that. You don't trust the government. You think the government are criminals. Eddie, swing me. But you don't think that's fucking fishy? A detective would be all over that like a fuck, like flies on shit.

Let me tell you something. Are you kidding? If that was my building, I'd want my fucking money back. Me too. Are you kidding me? Because that shit crumbles. To me, that tells me there's some kind of hypnosis going on. Goddamn.

Eddie, who flew his building? Who flew his building? Eddie, look at it. Eddie, who flew his buildings in there? No, no, no. Did you say a plane didn't go into that building? A plane didn't go into that. No plane. There was three that went down, but the third one wasn't reported on because they knew the majority of the people, like you, real smart, would not even...

I like how he said real smart after he just shit on you. He did shit on you. Eddie is swinging the fuck out of me, though. Come on. Three buildings... He's swaying you? Listen, listen, listen. Three buildings went down.

Two of them got hit by a plane. One didn't. A detective would be so... Lawyers would be all over that shit. And you don't trust the government. You believe the government are criminals, but yet you got their back on this. No, no, no, no, no, no.

That's scarier than the actual tower dropping at free fall speed. But, Eddie, here's the problem. How is that possible? But, Eddie, here's the problem. None of us really understand structural engineering. I don't understand what happens when you hear— But when you hear— No, no, exactly.

But when you hear guys that do, one by one, when you see— But not all of them. They're honeydickers. Only the ones who are in engineers and architects have their own point of view on it. They're all bought off, dude. Scientific Americans bought off?

When you look at what's going on, when people look at what trends are going on, this is the trend that's going on. There's 100,000 architects and engineers in the association and bit by bit it's growing and growing because you know what? The head of all that, he's sitting down

Wait a minute, what are you saying? There's 100,000 architects and engineers in 9-11 Architects and Engineers for Truth? In some club? In the association of architects and engineers there's a national association There's 100,000 of them And 2,500 plus.

No, no, no. There's a hundred thousand. It says signs of 9-11. No, no, no. That's different. A hundred thousand in the whole association, not including 9-11. They don't give a fuck. I know.

I'm saying it says 2,500 think. No, but is it 20? Because Joe had to take a piss and I was lost. Look, Brendan. You're a smart man. I left and it became 9-11. It's the same thing. Hey, Brendan.

I don't know, man. It's my Hail Mary. It's the same thing. It's the same thing that we were talking about before. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. Hey, Brendan. I don't know, man. It's my Hail Mary. It's the same thing that we were talking about before. It's the same thing. It's the same thing in everything. It's the exact same thing. You could look at it like, hey, let me ask some questions. Out of the 100,000, did these 2,500 come from the 100,000 being shown the evidence and only 2,500 believe it?

Or were only 2,500 shown? Does that make a difference? Does that make a difference? Does that make a difference in whether you jumped? Of course it does. So the reality is the 100,000 don't even know. Most of them don't even know three towers went down. These are architects, engineers that didn't even look into it. So one by one, one by one, it's growing and growing

because 15 at a time, they're getting 15 at a time. They're showing them the evidence and they're going, holy shit, these motherfuckers were brought down. That's what's going on. It's just like what we were talking about before. It's not what's going on.

It's the same shit. It's not what's going on. Eddie, anybody examining the evidence is going to know three towers went down. Everybody knows three towers went down. Most people don't know three towers went down. No, when you're talking about artists, architects and engineers,

you don't think the predominant group of... If you looked at a million architects and engineers, you don't think that like 999,999 would fucking know that Tower 7 was brought down with Tower 1 and Tower 2? Can I talk? Just because... It's like I just donated the conversation. Can I go?

Oh my God. Just because... What did I just say? Does that make I go? Oh, my God. Just because. What did I just say? Does that make sense? Yeah, just because you're an architect and an engineer and you're registered in the association. Hold on. Just because you're an architect or an engineer and you're registered in the association doesn't mean you're privy to extra knowledge on 9-1-1 because the overall

knowledge of 9-11 is most people don't know three towers went down. That's an actual fact. These architects and engineers don't even know. But when they get sit down, all of them, 100%, when they get sit down, I know the guy, I had him on my podcast. He's the head of all this shit.

Every one of them goes, oh, shit. We've been honey-dicked. That's what's going on. Honey-dicked? 9-11. 9-11. That's what's going on. Okay.

You saw Tower 7 go down like that. But hold on a second. You saw it. The architects and the engineers don't know about Tower 7, but you do. No. Of course. Because they didn't look into it. They're normal people.

I do. You think just because you're an architect and engineer, you're going to get an email. You're going to get an email. Most people don't know, even today, they don't even know about 3D. So you think they're going to get an email? You're going to get an email? They're not researching it. The ones that did find out easy.

If you're an architect or an engineer and you've passed through some sort of architectural course, and I assume you've got some sort of a master's degree in engineering. And someone asks you to commentate on one of the most historic attacks in human civilization ever. You're going to do some research. You're going to do some research. Yes. And you're going to look at all the different buildings that fell.

Come on. We're talking about real shit. Eddie, 100%. If you ask them to examine what happened at Tower 7, they're going to look at Tower 7. If you think they're going to talk to them about 9-11 and not bring up Tower 7, that's crazy. Most don't know about it. They don't know about it. They can research it, but they don't.

Nobody covered it up, Eddie. Because what's happening is one by one. I'm trying to tell you right now. Hold on, Eddie. When they sit them down. It's not covering up. It's just there's so much going on that day that Tower 7 seemed less important

in comparison to Tower 1 and Tower 2, which were both hit by planes. And more deaths. But whatever it was, it didn't, whether it was an intentional cover-up, Tower 7, or it was a cover-up

because there was so much hoopla, most people don't know about it. So what? This is what's going on. But so what? So what? Richard on so what so what Richard gauges? Why would you but jetty Eddie? Why would you think that architects don't know? Why would you think that engineers don't know that? We don't know you don't know I don't know but what we do know is down they say oh shit

I know there was a third maybe no Eddie come on man. Come on man. That's not true You don't know that that's the Richard Gaines. He's crazy about this. You're getting so emotional We're not involved in this like it's not a part of our lives All right, and you don't know what they knew before you want it You want to think the tower seven collapse because they got hot do you? Think that's what I want. I don't know. Do you think that's what I want? I don't know what you want, man. I don't want to make a conclusion without having any facts.

But I look at Tower 7. There's plenty of facts out there. Eddie, not true. It looks like a controlled- Expert testimonial can be used in court. There's plenty of expert testimonial. What does that mean? That kind of shit can be used in court to prove a case, and there's plenty of expert

testimonial on video about 9-11. But you know, there's also expert testimonial that the diesel fuel from the tanks in the basement. Show me that. You say that it is, but there isn't. Show me today. How many architects? Send me a link after this. Telling me.

Send me a link. You guys don't even know about no link. You don't even know where to go. Can I ask you a question? And I can send you links. Eddie, come on. They can crush your shit. Let me ask you. Oh guys don't even know about no link. Eddie. Eddie. You don't even know where to go. Eddie, can I ask you a question? And I can send you links. Eddie, come on. They could crush your shit. Let me ask you a question.

Oh, we're crushing each other. Eddie, crushing shit. You're talking about some links that don't exist. You're talking about proof. You're talking about proof, Eddie. What are you talking about? He's looking right at you. You haven't even talked.

Something blew up. You are a fucking denier. Yes, you did. He's pointing right at Shab, and Shab has to sit away. Shab is a motherfucker. Bro, I'm trying to educate. Eddie's too high. Shab's and Shab has to sit away. Shab is a motherfucker. I'm trying to educate. Shab thinks you probably think 9-11 was committed by motivated Islamic fundamentalists. We should take this time to address all the nerds out there that feel disenfranchised,

but all this violent testosterone-induced yelling and screaming. We love you, too. We all love each other. We love everybody. Brian, you didn't say a word. You don't have a dog in this fight. Brian has some thoughts on this. I won't get involved. Brian, you didn't say a word. And Brian has some thoughts on this. I won't get involved. Brian, just wrap it up for us.

End it here. Let's let you end this. I just think it's amazing that Eddie has the inside scoop when every major publication from The Guardian, from The New York Times, to Lawrence Ryder won a Pulitzer Prize winning book called The Looming Tower that actually traced this. Don't you fucking quote people, you son of a bitch. To, I mean, Time Magazine, Newsweek. I mean, they've all been bought off by the Illuminati or the government. And Eddie's YouTube and his inside scoop has the truth.

And all the rest of us are fucking wrong. Inside scoop. I want to thank Eddie for being who the fuck he is, because he's a national treasure, and I fucking love the guy. But you think you are. I love you, too. I do love him. I love him.

And he's a good person. And you know what? He's a good motherfucker. Listen, I want to fucking... I need your access, Eddie. I want to believe the government. I want to get on that government side. I agree.

I want to get on that government side. Please let me in this motherfucker. Eddie, you and I don't access, Eddie. I want to get on that government side. I agree. I want to get on that government side. Please let me in this motherfucker. Eddie, you and I don't like the government. You give them too much credit. Guys, you've got to stop talking over each other. I'm going to get into the Illuminati one of these days, and I'm going to make a false flag directly for you. I want it, brother.

And you're going to believe all that shit. I want it. I want to make it for you. Listen, that's definitely going to happen. Glad we're talking about it. That's totally not a waste of time. No, not at all. I'm going to make it happen. Watch,, that's definitely going to happen. I'm glad we're talking about it. That's totally not a waste of time. No, not at all. I'm going to make it happen.

Watch. I got it. Eddie Bravo's a national treasure. I already have it in my head. I just want you to not give the government so much credit. They're not that organized. There's also a real- I love that one.

They could never do it. They're too dumb. They couldn't do it. There's a real benefit to not getting emotional and yelling about things that you're not exactly sure about. And when we talk about these things- Classic, though. Classic.

It's a better approach to step back and go, what are the possibilities? How much do I have invested in one particular argument that I've already projected? The only reason I go to Tower 7 is because that's the most obvious one. That's the litmus test. Eddie, here's the problem. It's fucking curious for sure, but it's not obvious.

It's not obvious Neither you nor I is an architect or an engineer It's obvious that it looks like a controlled demolition It's not obvious why it fell apart I don't understand it A jury is not an expert So when a jury sits in And they listen to expert testimony

There is expert testimony Your YouTube research is tough Eddie That's why I was talking to you. You know, there's people out there that believe crazy shit. You're already there, dude. You're already there. You're already there.

Have you ever listened? I am close to converting. And you know what I'm talking about. Have you ever listened to people that say crazy shit? Come on, man. I ride the middle, man. Come on. A fucking 47-story fucking skyscraper collapses at freefall speed.

And you're going to believe fire fucking did that shit? Is the Earth flat? No. It's fucking round like a pear, right? Isn't that what Tyson McGrassy says? McGrassy? God damn it, Eddie. Yeah, add me until Degrassi.

Didn't he say it was a pear? Is the Earth flat, ladies and gentlemen? Eddie? There's no evidence that the Earth flat, ladies and gentlemen? No. There's no evidence that the Earth is flat. But you know what there is evidence is? There's pure evidence all over the place that NASA is posting CGI pictures everywhere of Earth. Come on. It's all CGI.

It goes around. Is that crazy? Game of Thrones is on tonight. I got to go. Catch that up. Seriously. Look at the time. Eddie, the Earth is round. No, no you don't think any of the Earth is round?

No, no. I'm not talking about the Earth is round. It's so round. It's so round. I'm talking about the butt. I'm talking about pictures. You know, NASA's trolling. They have a Snapchat account. And just like girls, Joe Rogan's flat Earth denial.

Please, don't. You just hooked him up. Don't hook that guy up. I never said the Earth was flat. I'm just saying NASA be faking moon trip. I am saying it's not flat. And people are mad at me for saying it's not flat. Really? BJ Penn apparently thinks the Earth is flat. I'm just saying NASA be faking moon trip. I am saying it's not flat. And people are mad at me for saying it's not flat. Really?

BJ Penn apparently thinks the Earth is flat. Oh, no. Tila Tequila retweeted her the other day, thinks the Earth is in fact flat. Tila Tequila? She's so smart. I love Tila. Fuck, man. She's like a fun gal.

Do you show up? A lot of people think the Earth is flat. Hey, listen. I don't know what you're feeling anymore. You can't be my friend if the Earth is flat. Do you believe we went I don't know what you're feeling anymore, but do you believe we went to the moon six times and back? Yes. Do you believe we went to the moon six times and back?

Of course you do. Do you believe we went to the moon six times and back? He goes, of course you do. We did? Maybe. You don't know? You're on the fence? He's from Ohio.

You don't know? For sure we went. For sure we went. We for sure went to the moon. It wasn't a stage. Hey, I'm not going to debate it. I just want to know where you guys are. I want to know where you research listen man He's here's one hundred that shit. I don't believe for one motherfucking second

We went to the fucking moon six goddamn times and back and we can't do it now We can't do it. We can do it now. No NASA says we can do we got to figure out how to get through the Van Allen Radiation, that's not wait a minute. Now, that's what they said. They're on record. There's videos of it. They're on record saying that. There's videos, Brian. We're going to get to the moon as soon as we figure out how to get three things.

Three things they've got to figure out. They've already said it. They've already admitted it. They've got to figure out how to get through the Van Allen radiation belts. They admitted that. Once they figure that out, then they can have a manned mission to the moon. Wait a minute. Didn't we go six times in the sixth inning?

Conditions change. People day? Conditions change. Conditions change. Have you ever seen gravity? Okay, beautiful. Beautiful. And then the next thing they said, they got to figure out the right uniform to handle that kind of radiation. They haven't figured out the right space suit. They haven't figured it out right now today.

They need a burger out. They need to have a bigger slot. Young Jamie. I never said that. From Brendan Shaw. I'm just saying. From Brian, everybody. We love you. From Young Jamie. I never said that. From Brendan Shaw. From Brian Callaghan and Eddie Bravo. Thank you. We for sure went to the moon.

We went to the fucking moon. I love everybody in this room. I love everybody in this room. Everybody, please say good night. We're wrapping this bitch up. Yeah. Good night, motherfuckers. Congratulations.

So smoothly. Unlike any other government agency, you guys got this shit down. You figured out a way how to manipulate media. You figured out a way how to create Jim Morrison, who's obviously one of the greatest musicians of all time. You've done an amazing job. And congratulations on Tower 7. I mean, the fucking thing felt like butter.

You guys are wizards. That's not on, motherfucker. There's a way. Thereelt like butter. You guys are wizards. That's not on, motherfucker. There's a way. Whatever way that is. You got it. Eddie Bravo. All you guys, please. I'll do all that shit. I was into speed metal, remember? So Satan