The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 31, 2014

Episode Date: May 31, 2014

May 31, 2014 - Fight Companion, with Brendan Schaub and Eddie Bravo.

Oh, good googly moogly, ladies and gentlemen. This episode of the podcast, if you're looking for like a regular podcast where people are going to talk about interesting shit and bring up topics that are fascinating and intellectually stimulating, that shit ain't happening. Today, this episode, what are they saying? Are they saying that? No. What are they saying? They're saying us? Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

Oh, shit. We're already live, you late fucks. Sit down. Pay attention, my friend. What's up, dog? What is that? Have you been back to the freezing place since we left? Grab that backpack. You think it works? Hey, you guys, we're broadcasting.

Don't have just a regular conversation. This is actually a podcast. Is it being videotaped? Yeah it's videotaped Videotaped too? We're live Damn You don't want to be videotaped?

We can go incognito We can just put a logo on You can just put a black dot over my face right? This is like I was saying before you guys walked in This episode is not a regular podcast. This is what we're calling the Fight Companion Podcast. We did it during the last UFC broadcast that I wasn't a part of, and we had a great fucking time, so we decided to do it again.

Brendan Schaub is here. Hello. Brian Callen is here. Hello, everybody. Brian Callen is here. Eje Bra is here. The original Renato. And we are watching, yeah, yeah, sure.

I'll get you some, isn't there like a box of Alpha Brain right here? Alpha Brain. Oh, shit, I would love Alpha Brain. I can't function without it. We're watching the Brazil broadcast, but I have UFC Fight Pass, so we can watch the Musashi versus Munoz fight, which has already taken place. Do you know what happened? Yeah. Do you?

It's a bummer. You're a friend and a fan of Munoz. He's a good dude. It's a tough one, man. Musashi looked like a fucking beast. We'll cover that later. He just couldn't take him down or what? What happened? He took him down. You want to watch it real quick while we're waiting for the fight to take place? Can we watch it over here so my neck doesn't hurt?

So your neck doesn't fall off? It's not possible? No. Okay. I'll show you. I'll turn. This is the end. It's pretty much.

So you're saying Munoz could take him down? We can see it right behind you. Munoz tried to take him down. Watch. He tried to take him down. Oh, look at that. And Musashi got him to the ground, got inside control, went for the guillotine, wound up being on top, and eventually got his back.

From mount to mount. Yeah, it was pretty slick. And then Mark turns. Dude, he's good. He's fucking really good. You know, a lot of people sleep on his ground game, man. They think about him as a kickboxer. They shouldn't.

But his ground game is very, very high level. And it was a sweet transition, too, the way he did it. And, you know, Muno is a he's no joke you know he's a good wrestler very strong guy and Musashi for him to do this to him Munoz was NCAA champ right two times in a row yeah yeah four-time All-American listen with Munoz in practice this is the same thing he does when he gets the mount he goes for that single leg, and it causes him a lot of trouble. So he would work with Heron and Henner about options not to do that, but it's just in his nature when the bullets are flying to turn to wrestling.

That's so crazy. It gets him in trouble, man. Yeah. Well, that is the transition that a lot of guys make, especially when they feel like they're super dominant wrestlers and they feel like, look, I'm already where I want to be. I can just complete this single. But while he was going

for the takedown, Musashi hit him with some nasty fucking elbows, man. They were really ugly. Really ugly elbows. And I think those probably took a lot out of him, man. Those were horrible elbows. And look at this.

What a sweet move, man. So he couldn't quite take him down and get on top. He couldn't do it. Not even once. Well, Mousasi out-grappled him. Not even once? Flattens him. What is Mousasi?

Is that an Iranian name or a Persian name? I think it is. Maybe Armenian. You know, I'm not sure. No, it's not Armenian. It's not Armenian? It sounds... Oh, that's me. That's Joey. Oh, shit. Dang. Let's find out. That's No, it's not Armani. It's not Armani. It sounds... Oh, that's me.

That's Joey. Oh, shit. Dang. Let's find out. It's tough, man. It's Joey. It sucks to watch. Yo.

You're live, Joey Diaz. You're live, Joey Diaz on JRE. I got to ask you a question. What? Tonight, when they do that rock and roll Hall of Fame, are they inducting kids tonight? I don't know. That's a good question. Random questions.

Random questions for Joey Diaz. I'm going to check with you, bro, just to make sure. Do your thing. All right, brother. Joey Diaz, I owe you a phone call, baby. All right, brother. He's Armenian. Hey, did you watch the UFC tonight?

Did you watch the Munoz fight? Oh, he hung up. He probably lost him. The signaling here sucks a fat one. How is he not funny? That's hilarious. Saying that is funny. Just asking if Kiss was inducted.

That's how funny Joe Deere is. I always thought they were inducted. I thought maybe like 15 years ago. Is that something you can Google? Kiss is definitely in the Hall of Fame. I don't think so. I'm getting frozen yogurt.

I'm getting frozen with a beautiful blonde a while back and Gene Simmons is sitting down as I come back in to get like vanilla yogurt.

I said, I'm going to get one and she's outside and I get one and he looks at me and he goes, hey, and I go,

hey man, how you doing? And he goes, and I go, hey, man, how you doing? And he goes, like your friend. Very cute. Like your friend. Like your friend, something like that.

What? And I go, and I go, I said, yeah, yeah, it's great, man. Yeah, it's amazing. I was just thinking about it.

You guys have been doing this for 20 years. You've been, you know, famous for 20 years. And he goes, 30. 30.

And I was like, right, right, okay. And I was like, right. Right. Okay. And that was the end of that. Is that it? By the way, doing stand-up for him. That was your whole comment.

That was it? Well, doing stand-up for him at the MMA Awards. Like, he's in the front row. I think he, he didn't quite laugh, but he did open his mouth a couple times and kind of looked at me. Yeah, he kind of went, ah. Dude, one of the most nervous I've ever been. He came to see me on New Year's Eve.

He brought his family. That is nerve-wracking. He had a baseball hat. nervous I've ever been. He came to see me on New Year's Eve. He brought his family. That is nerve-wracking. It was Gene Simmons, his brother, or his son, rather, whose son's about 6'8". Giant kid. The whole family's giant. I was like their child. Can you please play basketball? It's like they won you in a contest.

Yeah, they're big humans. But it was the weirdest thing ever. It was like Gene Simmons is in the crowd. Like, Gene Simmons? Oh, fuck yeah, it does. I had to bring it up i brought it up you called him out i had to you have to had to for me i was like i just got to tell you i'm nervous well that's like i did stand up i did stand up for for harvey kytel and harry dean stand and they're in the audience to see me oh my god i was i was nervous man i found myself very nervous you You had Bieber in the crowd one time. I wasn't nervous about that. No, I saw you.

You were shitting your pants on Bieber. Yeah, right. You sent me a text, oh my God, Bieber's here. Yeah, right. Get here now. I'm so excited. What does he got to do to get people's respect? What does Bieber got to do?

He's got the tattoos. He's walking out with Floyd. He's hanging out with Floyd. That's the problem. That's the problem. Come on. What does he have to do? That's the problem.

Shit. Just be cool and fucking sing. That's the problem. Come on. What does he have to do? That's the problem. Shit. Just be cool and fucking sing. Don't act all tough and hood. But what if he is tough? What if he could sing? What if he is tough? I completely disagree with all of you. I don't think he's doing anything wrong.

I think if I was 19, I would be way more out of control if I had half a billion dollars. He's doing all right. He got busted for weed. The kid's doing fan-fucking-tastic. So he egged the neighbor's house. Whatever. I know. I know.

He's in a fight with an asshole who lives next door to him. I'd probably have indentured servants. I'd be out of control. You would think when he has- I'd have people killed. His next door neighbors would be like 10 miles away with the money he has. No, no, no, no. I'd live next to people.

The Oaks is a very crowded community. I mean, Joe and I, I remember Joe and I, when I wanted to get a pit bull, Joe and I, like idiots, found, I find this advertisement, it says, pit bulls bred right out of the box. I was like, Joe, he goes, where'd I go? I found fighting dogs. I want jaws on the end of a leash. Joe's like, I'll come with you. We go find this sketchy dude.

Sketchy dude. Sketchy criminal.e's like i'll come with you we go find this sketchy dude sketchy sketchy criminal i don't know if he's selling it but he's definitely smoked it he gave his dog he was giving his dog protein powder i was like all right well i want one of those dogs or what yeah it was great yeah kind of until it killed a baby cow and two goats and another dog, and then they had to put it down. Yeah. Those dogs are not good pets. Yeah. They're sweet as hell.

Pit bulls? I disagree. Game bred. Game bred pit bulls. Oh, well, yeah. The ones that are, look, it's all in the genetics, man, 100% in the genetics. I would have had a pet. It's also the way you raised.

If I was Justin Bieber at that age, I would have. Sort of. If I was Justin Bieber, I'd have lions. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Well, you think about what Tyson had. It depends entirely on the dog, but even if you soup, like if you're really good at taking your dog to dog parks and getting them used to being around people...

You have to be disciplined. They still have mad animal aggression. Yeah, they got that trigger you never know with them. Yeah. And when Dom Herrera, when Justin Bieber is in the audience, Dom Herrera comes up and goes, you know, Justin, it must have been really hard for you, the struggle between the age of 13 and 14 when you weren't making it.

By the way, that's the worst Dom Herrera impression in the history of the earth. It's not bad, actually. I would disagree with you. Hey, you know, I wanted to watch that Justin Bieber movie, Never Surrender, or Never Give Up, or something like that. I also wanted I can fly. I want to ask Joey. I also wanted to see it.

I said, let's go watch that and goof on it. We'll just goof on this stupid-ass movie, a Justin Bieber movie. That's great. I couldn't wait to watch it and goof on it. But when you go and you watch it, man, when you know the story of how he blew up, when you actually know how he blew up. YouTube. It's pretty crazy. What is it for YouTube? I thought he was a producer project

or some labels putting together. They did not want... Nobody wanted to sign him. He blew up on his own from YouTube. How? Just because he was so good? He's a fucking amazing singer. He can sing his ass off.

And he plays drums. He shreds. He plays guitar and everything. Let's let everyone know that the fight is about to start. Oh, shit. So if you're watching this, here's the problem. If you watch this online, it's a 15-second delay. Between us, this is what I had to get out.

Between when we're talking and the fights. The fights have already happened by the time you're hearing this. So pause like 15 seconds and then catch up. Right now it's 4.51 of the first round. And this is Honey Jason and Robbie Peralta. I'm not mad at those ring card girls, the new Brazilian ring card girls. Pow, pow. The jiu-jitsu thing on his shoulders might be a little much.

You could add that on a t-shirt instead. Honey Jason's a bad motherfucker. Yeah, he's a wild man. He won the Ultimate fighter in Brazil. All right. Jeremy Stevens knocked him out with a head kick,

but he came back with a win in his next fight after that. Jeremy Stevens hit him with a kick from hell. I wonder how we got

that name, Honey Jason. Well, Jason's his nickname, that's why he wears the hockey mask. I wonder how we got that. Has anybody ever asked him

He's kind of a psycho Damn he has The ultimate fighter tattoo Yeah He won He won The first season Of the Brazilian show

That right If that's a That left or a right That right looks like If he throws it And commits It's going to connect What are you talking about son

Please Can we mute him When he does that Hey man Guys You know what Ready to job Official UFC fighter Please talk to Brian mute him when he does that? Hey, man. Guys, you know what? Ready to job. Official UFC fighter.

Please talk to Brian. Tell him to never say things like that. Hey, guys. If you're going to comment on the fight, you got to do it in a Brazilian accent. We'll accept that. We'll accept that. I was going to do that. Okay.

Okay. If you connect with the ride like that, there's going to be a problem. That was Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's Arnold Schwarzenegger. I know. I know. It's Arnold. Arnold as in Brazilian.

He's recovering from us shitting on his Don Mera impression. Damn. Oh, they're on the ground. Oh. Beautiful transition. Trying for an armbar. Got a little high. Honey Jason falls off the top.

He's nice and loose. He's keeping loose. Robbie Peralta. He's a tough motherfucker. This is going to be a good fight. This is an interesting fight. He kind of looks like if Dan Hardy and jens pulver had a kid yeah or actually i think i think i think it's tom hardy um um chuck lydell yeah both of those work

yeah yeah it looks there's a lot of dan hardy in there yeah there is a little bit dan hardy with jens pulver it's good looking kid hardy some chick hardy got pregnant oh beautiful spinning elbow damn that was sweet what were you saying about pregnant chicks though before that elbow happened no i was just getting into the story of uh this background oh how he became looked like that i'll make a call right now if he catch He's gonna catch him With that right That spinning elbow Was fucking magnificent Nasty

Gonna catch him With the right You know You didn't see it coming either He didn't It didn't telegraph it He threw it It was beautiful

And it was also It was unexpected Did you guys see Some of the prelims Yeah I did I watched the Rodrigo Damn fight Yeah

What did you see Did you see God God, who was it? Homeboy. They were just throwing caution to the wind. Herb stopped the fight in the second round. No, which fight? Was it on the fight pass? Nope, it was the first one.

Oh, on this. Yeah, on Fox Sports. Oh, man, I missed him. I think we'd probably be able to get that. Standing ovation From Joe Silva I think we'd probably Be able to get that Standing ovation From Joe Silva Wow Which is hard to do

If you're not For what fight Joe Silva First fight on Fox Sports 1 Freelance He's a real connoisseur That Joe Silva

That motherfucker knows He's seen a couple Fights in his day He knows about Every fighter On the planet At all times That sounds ridiculous

But he basically does. Anytime a guy is making it into the big leagues, Silva knows about it. He's like a super fan. I love talking to him about fights. He trains, too. He's always trained. Yeah, but I love talking to him about fights.

Me and him have some really interesting conversations about fights. You put him in that armbar? No, he put me in an armbar. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. You guys were rolling? guys were just messing around. No, no, not for real. Not for real.

No, he wanted to try out. Like, damn, Joe. He wanted to try out. Damn, man. Joe's way bigger than him. Oh, nice. Joe's way bigger than him. He wanted to show me some new variation on the armbar, and it wasn't effective.

He picked you and he picked you up and slapped you. I didn't. Rampage his ass. Real meathead style. bar and it wasn't effective I was you know was he was he had a good idea it's just he didn't take into account a couple things and one of them was that he wasn't controlling my body I was like you know you don't have a hold of me yeah it was a you have 50 pounds of muscle on him too that helped so no matter what if he would have put on a traditional Brazilian Carl's Gracie senior armbar. Senior armbar.

He would have still just slipped off. You got a mid-sized dog on him. That's how much more weight you have on you. We were talking about, Steve Maxwell was in here and he was talking about how he had this dude who was this gigantic football player. Just total super athlete, 280 fucking pounds of pure muscle.

NFL player or college? What are we talking here? College. No, no, no. I forget. I forget. Either way, stud. I think it was a Philadelphia Eagles.

But anyway, giant dude, right? And he was rolling with one of his brown belts, and the guy gets him in a mounted armbar, mounts him, takes his arm, fully locked in armbar. And the dude stands up with him like a Turkish getup. Oh, my God. He stands up. Oh, my God.

Holds his arm up in the air. And they're like, don't slam him. Don't slam him. Oh, my God. Let him go. Let him go. Let him go. Put him down.

Put him down. Everybody relax. Put him down. It was just, he was so much stronger than it did. Like, the other dude was only like a buck 60. He was so much stronger that it was just like the other dude was only like a buck 60. He was so much stronger that it was just insanity. You know what's weird? I just asked him about Andre Carter who played defensive end for the 49ers

and for the Pats, and I just met him. He's 6'7", 265, and just the most ridiculous athlete. People always do this. People always do this. How do you think you do in the UFC? Big guy, huh? Do well in the UFC? Fuck no, man. He'd get tore up.

He'd get dropped. And listen, people are always like, how would NFL elite athletes, LeBron James? It takes a special kind of athlete to get punched in the face the first day in the gym. Like, you know what? I want to do more of this. I'm going to come back. Look at that elbow. Look at this elbow. A different thing. Oh, and there's not a million dollar

signing bonus. Damn, I was hoping they were going to show that again. That elbow was goddamn beautiful. Yeah, no million-dollar signing bonus, super dangerous. It's a long road. Nothing guaranteed. Very high risk, very low potential reward. What it is is football players and any professional athlete, really,

if they got into jiu-jitsu or if they got into MMA, they will progress a lot quicker than your average guy. Because they have the athleticism, they have the balance. So that's what it's like. Does he have the whole package, the mental package, the work ethic, and the technique? The heart. Shit. And because of the fact

that it's not a guarantee, you've got to be looking for glory. You really have to be doing it for glory. You can't really be doing it for money. You've got to be doing it to get really fucking good and be glorious. Listen, there's a lot of guys in the NFL who I played with or in college, and there's some guys in fighting too, but mainly in these other

sports where they would walk away from it if they could. They hate doing it. They hate playing football. It's just the money is so damn good. But you've rolled with some elite football players. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean some big, powerful guys. They did. Eddie, do you remember that dude they used to have at the gym?

Who was that dude who was, I don't know what level football he played, but I used to always call rolling with him. Hey, where's that alpha brain? That was like riding the bull. Riding the bull? Rolling with him is riding the bull. Do you remember the guy? Do you know who I'm talking about?

How many alpha brains should I eat? I take four. I take nine. Seriously? And I take four. Four is not too much. Do you remember the guy I'm talking about? How many alpha brains should I eat? I take four. I take nine. Seriously? And I take four. Four is not too much. Do you remember the guy I'm talking about? I'm going to take three.

The football player, Eddie? Football player. Big black eye, super strong, really flexible. No, it wasn't Andy. Old legends? Yeah, old legends. Old legends. La Brea legends?

Yes. Football player? Oh, Lee Macklin? I think that's him. He played running back in college. Oh, my God. This guy was an athlete. Ridiculous.

He learned in jiu-jitsu, but an athlete. But it was like riding the bull. He was just so fucking strong. Yeah. I'll tell you what, man. Shane Carwin was 300 pounds when I first started with him. And Shane, he would go do his job. He'd be gone, have an injury.

He'd be gone for six weeks. I'd be working on Jiu-Jitsu three times a day, seven days a week. I'm like, I can't wait for Shane to get back. I'm going to roll this big mug up. Nothing. He's just so big. Too big. Like you said, you'd strap something on him, he'd just freaking hurt his knees out.

Honey Jason just mounted Robbie Peralta. Robbie Peralta exploded Robbie Peralta exploded. Peralta's tough, man. This guy, he's tough. Brian, real quick. It was a good move. Both of these guys are tough. Hey, man.

Every guy you see tonight's going to be pretty tough. These guys are nice. He's so sweaty. Some of his guys from the last one. These guys are sweating, man. Honestly, these guys have a lot of courage. They got a lot of muscle mass. This guy has a little courage.

Honestly, these guys have a lot of muscle on them This guy has a little courage. Honestly, these guys have a lot of muscle on them. This guy's a stud. They like fighting. These guys fight. These guys are fighting. Oh, triangle attempt. Triangle. Oh!

Oh, tries to omoplata. Lost it. Lost control. Needs to learn some rubber guard. Lock that shit in tight, son. A lot of stuff doesn't work on these guys, guys. A lot of stuff doesn't work. These guys, guys. A lot of stuff doesn't work. These guys exercise.

No, they don't. That's all natural, bro. This shit's totally natural. Can I be honest? Fighting hurts. It hurts. For anybody out there. Robbie Peralta on top

kicking Han and Jason in the legs. It's gotta hurt. Interesting. It is interesting. What is this? These guys 55ers five years you never know like how long to to stand there and when to step them back up obviously homeboy doesn't want to go to the ground with them so you might i think you should probably stand up yeah sooner than possible right but it's a tricky situation it's like remember you used to watch those old jack dempsey films and he would knock a dude down and then hover over him?

Yeah. Because when the guy tried to get back up, he would punch him. Boom, yeah. And people would be like, oh, that's so cheap. That's so cheap. They used to be able to do that. That's some cheap shit. Now you have to stand in neutral corner

and the boxer has to wait for the guy to get up. But it's kind of unrealistic. So when you see a scenario like this, I think it's kind of interesting. Peralta was holding his legs and kicking him. And there was a beautiful right hand by Peralta. That was nice. That didn't hurt.

You see how he said, come here? He got hit. The minute he got hit, he started doing that. The Rodrigo Dam fight earlier. He was fighting, what's his name? Nurmagomedov, I believe it is. Dude, you're asking me to remember. Did you see Paulo Thiago?

Somebody lost another one. He did? Paulo Thiago did? Yeah. Damn, who did he lose to today? Some Russian cat. Dude, I don't know. I think he's lost five out of seven.

Does anybody know what's going on with Thiago Silva, like that whole situation? Oh, Thiago Silva? Yeah. Yeah. Apparently, you know, he got arrested and they kicked him out of the UFC. Right. And he had a gun on him or something. You know, I don't know if he actually brought the gun.

I'll tell you right now what this all stems from. Chicken head. Chicken head. There you go, Doug. Everything stems from chicken head. Shawb's going to drop some fucking chicken head signs. If you never heard Shawb, he's like, oh, he hit that beautiful. He took it as he took the jab.

He spun and landed that elbow. These guys are just loving it. Oh, nice left hook. Nice left hook. Oh. Oh, right hand by Honey Jason. Great right hand. Right on the button.

Peralta just ate it. Oh, keep your hand up. Oh, this is a great fight. I know. They said defense, you're out of here. Let's just throw it. They let it go. Brennan Shaw will give a master course on chicken heads.

Chicken heads 101. Yes, he will. And your version. I have a black belt in chicken heads. There's a lot of dudes out there that will ruin their fucking life with the wrong person. Hang out with the wrong people. Brendan Walsh will teach you how to avoid chicken heads. Walsh?

It's simple. He said Walsh. I say it all the time. He says it all the time. Who is Brendan Walsh? Brendan Walsh. Brendan Frazier. From 90210. I do. Brendan Fra time. Brendan Fraser. Who is Brendan Walsh? Brendan Walsh. Brendan Fraser. From 90210.

I do. Brendan Fraser. Brendan Shaw. Brendan Fraser apparently has a piece on him. Heard that from a girl. I believe you. He's got a serious piece. You should do one of those late night infomercials on chicken heads.

On chicken heads. Do you have chicken head problems? And just show a bunch of different scenarios. What was that song? You used to hear his song on one album, Voodoo Panani. Yeah, it was terrible. The kind of stuff that guys are... That was good.

That wasn't terrible. That's a good song. Have you heard that, dude? No. Oh, you got to hear it. That's a good song. Don't sell yourself. Bro, you know what we haven't been in since?

UFC 173. Oh, yeah. TJ Dillashaw. What? God damn. That was incredible, right? Inspiring, man. Look at how he eats the jab and spins.

Boom. Oh, it was a right hand. He ate the right hand. Oh, nice jumping knee, too. Dirty land. Wild fight. We got one more. Oh, he's trying to high five.

Oh, Mario ain't having it. I'm a Zaki. Come on. He's excited. Yeah, they were just going to high five, you know? Well, you had to chill, though. They enjoyed the fight. They're enjoying it.

This is good, dude. Yeah, I like when dudes do that. Yeah. They enjoy the fight. They enjoying it. This is good, dude Yeah, I like when dudes do that. Yeah, they must have trained before together. Oh, no, they're just having a great fucking time. Yeah They're just having a great fucking time. That was a while. No wouldn't do that. I'll tell you wouldn't do that Mr. Brennan shop most boxers wouldn't do that either a lot of people wouldn't do that It's rare, you know, I mean it might happen like one half of 1% of all UFC fights. That's a risky kick when you do that because you could catch an elbow. You know why you don't do that? You ever seen Pat Berry versus Mirko Krokop when they kept hugging and grabbing each other's nuts and shit?

Yeah, but that was very extreme. That was a very extreme version of it. Well, I'm just saying. That's one example. Then I have to fight Mirko Krokop after that? Not the way you show respect, man. What do you mean? You show respect by beating him up, by bringing it to him.

Not by high-fiving him and having him sign your shorts inside the octagon. Oh, shit. That's what I do. I'd be friends with everybody. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, I know what you're saying. You can be friends afterwards. Yeah, well, I think Pat Barry was actually good friends with Murko Krokop, right?

They trained together. But still. I get it. I get it. Listen with Marco Cro Cop, right? They trained together. But still. I get it. I get it. Listen, me and Andre Arlovsky trained together. You think we're high-fiving? No. You think we're touching gloves?

Nope. Well, were you friends with Arlovsky? We were good training partners, man. Did you guys ever go out looking for honeys together? Looking for chicken heads? He was good friends. No, he had a girl. You were good friends with Mitch Treone.

When you went to touch gloves, he goes, no, we'll do it afterwards. He did. Wow. Then he woke up. Then I tried shaking his hand. He didn't want to. Jeez. Oh, pokes.

God damn it. It's the worst. I fucking hate them. So what do they do about it? There's nothing you can really do about it if you want grappling. They have to change those gloves, man. How, though? That's one thing.

Soft goggles. They have to make them curved. Make the gloves so that it accentuates the hand more. I hate this. I hate this. Yep. That's a nice shot there. Oh!

God. Ow! Enjoy your victory with one freaking eye. Right in the fucking eyeball, man. It's such a terrible injury. You know what I also think? I think they haven't exhausted all the possibilities as far as, like, covering the tips of the fingers. Everybody says you have to have the fingers open what what about covering the tips with like a very thin

sort of like a piece of tough leather what about grappling bro well that's what i'm thinking wouldn't it actually if it was like suede or something on those lines wouldn't it actually probably give you just a little more grip more grip they would come off no no i'm not saying it's thimbles i'm saying the front of the glove, the way it's constructed. Right. Some sort of like lambskin or some sort of a pliable. Something pliable. Not like that.

Kangaroo. Why lambskin? Little kangaroo. Lambskin's only good for one fucking thing. Chinchilla. Have you guys ever tried a lambskin? I've never tried one. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, I have. They make clothes out of it, too, though. They make soft clothes out of it, too, though. They make soft clothes out of it. It smells like soup. You've tried it? Uh-huh. Did it break off? I'm a little confused.

He's talking about condoms. He's tried it for what? He's talking about condoms. Lambskin condoms. Have you ever tried them? I have. No, I've never heard of them. I have.

You've never heard of lambskin? I've never heard of them. I think they were an 80s thing. No, they're not that huge. They don't make them anymore because they have microscopic holes where viruses can get through. Is it big in Africa? HIV can get through it. It must be huge in Africa.

It was the original condom. The original condoms are made out of animal intestines. That makes sense. Yeah, it totally makes sense. That's what they use. These guys are banging, man. Animal intestines actually feel way better, apparently. What?

I'm all set on that, bro. I'm all set on that. That's why the lambskins. That's another podcast. We all try it out. We all go home tonight. On Howard Stern, they all tried out

the real doll. They took turns on the real doll on the show. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, they had the real doll in another room, like in that room,

whatever. That's hilarious. And they were miked and they took turns on the real doll. I think Howard got the mouth. I think that's all. Howard got the mouth. in another room, like in that room or whatever, and they were mic'd and they took turns on the real doll. I think Howard got the mouth. I think that's all. It's his joint.

I'll do it, but you've got to guarantee me the mouth. Everybody gets a different one. I'd love to hear Brian on that thing. That'd be so wild. This is a good fight. Yeah, right? Sorry, man. Sorry, guys.

You think there's guys out there that hang out and double team real dolls? Dude, you've got to get your own, guys. You think there's guys out there that hang out and double team real dolls? Dude, you got to get your own, bro. You know what? They're too expensive. I guarantee there's two dudes right now listening to this podcast double teaming some dolls. How'd they know? All jacked up on bulletproof coffee.

There's got to be, right? There's got to be dudes that have parties with it. Like, let's do it. Like, one dude could afford a real good one. I'll tell you what my post-fight party is right now. Well, they have these websites where these guys take their real dolls and dress them up. And I mocked it. And this is how I know.

I used to think it was funny to make fun of real dolls. But then this dude told me. Oh, did he get poked too? No, he's blowing his nose. They told me this guy sent me an email angry at me. And then I sent him an email back like, hey, look, I'm just trying to be funny. I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings. But you realize it's kind of funny.

Because he's in love with it? Well, it's his girlfriend. And these guys, they treat these things like they're their girlfriend. So then he explained to me that he was disfigured when he was young. His whole life has been lonely and sad. Women find him disgusting. And that that's a lot of the guys

in this community. Oh, shit. That's kind of heartbreaking. It was totally a different point of view. I would definitely have a doll if I was fucked up. That's actually really interesting. I would have a doll.

I think I was looking at it in terms of some crazy know, like some crazy dude who thinks that's a girl and that it's some, you're a madman if you think that's a girl. Well, that's a different situation.

I was thinking, if you're a regular dude, you have your shit together and you're going home taking out a doll, you need a fucking motivational talk, man. Send me a text

and I'll give you a motivational talk. Wasn't there a fucking movie where a dude fell in love with his real girl? Yeah, with Ryan Gosling called Lars and the Real Girl. I don't know, but that movie Her where he falls in love with the... Siri.

Yeah. I love that movie. How about it? Was it good? I loved it. I didn't see it. It was so good. There's got to be a guy out there that has like 70 of them, right?

He's like a pimp. He has them all out in his living room and shit. He comes out with a fucking smoking jacket and he's got all these real dolls everywhere all around him. He sleeps with like ten of them and shit. Oh, for sure. At least one dude. At least one dude. And all the guys in his

community, they're like jealous of him and shit. Fuck, he's got so many. Shit. And those things are expensive. It's like a weird world. There's got to be guys out there that want. They just can't afford one. They just, they're $10,000.

Fuck. They're 10 G's? There's something like that. 5 G's, 10 G's. That's a lot of money. Yeah, they're probably pretty expensive. Who won this fight? We weren't even paying attention.

Why would you judge? I saw a little bit of it. You're worse than the fucking judges in Vegas if you try to judge that fight the way we're talking I was actually watching I got Jason there's gotta be dudes you were not watching there's gotta be dudes

that rip other people's real dolls off like break in and steal them and shit like give me back my real doll yeah they break in while he's at work

they break in and fuck the real doll well my friends my friends have a tenant they just my friends have a tenant. My friends have to evict this tenant from their apartment because the guy was breaking in the other tenant's apartments, the other women, and stealing their clothes. Oh, God.

And this woman was going, I'm missing my clothes. What's going on? So one girl put up video cameras, and the guy was breaking in during the day, stealing. So they get to his place and he's got just bins, bins full of women's stuff. And he dresses up in his house and walks around. Oh my God. That's what he's into.

Now the cops have a case. You're crazy if you don't think you can order a doll that looks like Joe Rogan and guys are fucking it. You're crazy if you don't think that's funny. Even crazier than that, how about the fact they're going to have artificial robot bodies that you can fuck, right? That's going to happen.

Where are they at this point? Can we find out where they're at? Are they close? Well, with synthetic biology, they might be able to create very real-feeling robots. Well, they could be a person. I mean, you could essentially be an artificial person. So you're going to be able to fuck a Brendan Chobb.

You'll be able to fuck Bigfoot Silva. You'll be able to fuck anybody you want. I'm assuming not too many orders for Bigfoot Silva. That's expensive. I have a hard on right now. For gay dudes? Gay dudes, here's a dime piece. They just maybe want to get savaged By a giant Fucking badass dude

Yeah Yeah you know I bet I bet You could probably order Real dolls that look like Scarlett Johansson Oh yeah

Right Well yeah But I think you're gonna be able To order an exact duplicate Of Scarlett Johansson I mean it's gonna be so strange That's stupid The world's gonna be like that

Why is that stupid I would order one If it was affordable And reasonable If you talk to someone Who lived in the 1400s About internet porn on your phone, they would look at you like you were completely recorded. Wow, he won.

Peralta. Wow. That doesn't make sense. Big win. Well, I don't know if you were really truly paying attention there, Brian. We were talking about dolls. Yeah, I don't think. You were definitely not watching enough to accurately judge a fight.

What is Hayabusa? It's a company that makes clothes. Clothes and gear. Yeah, boxing gloves and shit. Good gear. Damn. That's a good plug right there for Hayabusa. Did they pay you, Brian, to say that? Yes, they did. Yes, they did.

I always wear $2,000 right there. Here's a random... I don't know. I just didn't see this. Yeah, but you weren't really totally watching. None of that landed. That move of the night, none of those landed. Nope, nope, nope. Kind of. No, no, I didn't hurt him.

Do you see him? No, he was going with it. Yeah, he's going against it. So that couldn't have hurt. Yeah. He made the, it didn't hurt me comment. It was a good fight. He's still wrong. It was a really good fight.

Did anyone watch the Froach and Groves boxing match? No, but I watched the knockout. Good fight. Yeah. I didn't see the match at all. UK's biggest boxing match of all time. 80,000 people at the stadium. That's sick.

Crazy, man. The biggest of all time. Isn't that funny that Carl Froach is so big over in England, but people in America, the average sports fan has no idea who he is. They have no idea. I don't know who he is. I'll tell you who knows who he is. His girl.

She is a dime piece of a girl. He won that belt, but his girl jumped in there. Everyone was like, dang. Dang-a-lang. Who's this? Carl Froch's girlfriend. Yeah. Carl Froch.

He's winning. He is winning, everybody. It is real strange. I was on a plane with Vladimir Klitschko, and nobody bothered him at all. It's insane, right? He walked in. He sat down, nobody knew who he was. And I was like, holy shit. And so I'm like watching to see if people tweak and start pointing at him.

Nothing. And go, holy shit, that's the heavyweight champion in the world. Nope. Not a single person knew who he was. But in Europe all over, he can't go anywhere. He's like Tom Cruise. Here, he could deliver your pizza. And you're like, oh, what's up, Doug?

Well, he lives in Germany. And him and his brother, they did a lot of time in Germany. They lived in Germany for a long time. And they speak German. And they were, like, beloved in Germany. Smart dudes. Yeah, really smart. They're fucking PhDs.

Yeah. It's kind of crazy that guys with super high education would be the Henry Bosley champions. Easy on the eyes, too. Easy on the eyes. Perfect genetics. No big deal. Yeah. But, you know, he lost a bunch of times.

He's an interesting case, man. He lost a bunch of times and another eye gouge, man. You know, at a certain point in time, man, someone's got to do something about these guys. It's kind of part of the sport, right? Is it, though? It's like people getting kicked in the nuts. You'd be like, man, we have to stop kicking. Well, they have figured out a way to do it, though.

Have you ever tried one of those diamond cups? Those diamond MMA cups? Nope. You told me about it last time. I thought I was going to get one in the mail. I'll get you one. Every time anybody's been kicked directly in the balls, every single time, dude goes, hold on a second.

Yeah. Hold on a second. Yeah. But off the top of my head, there's only been two matches that ended with ball shots. Oh, yeah. Vanderlei Gilbert-Ivo. Remember that?

Pride 11. He kicked him in the balls, and he just couldn't recover because his ball got caught in between Guys are never the same, man. Kind of. Most of the time, though, in MMA, from what I remember, you get kicked in the balls. It doesn't end the fight. They might be... True.

You get five minutes to recover. Vanderlei Gilbert-Ivo, it was done, and Vanderlei didn't recover from that one. His ball was sticking out. His ball got crushed. And that's the only one I remember. Do you guys remember any where a fight ended because of a ball shot? I don't.

Fights end because of eye gouges, right? Yeah, man. How many have ended? And you can detach them. We'll get them out. At least ten? Anthony Johnson comes to mind. The fight ended because of the eye gouge? Yeah, man. How many have ended? And you can detach them as red men. We'll get them out. At least 10? Anthony Johnson comes to mind.

The fight ended because of the eye gouge? Yeah, the Anthony Johnson fight was a big one. That was a bad one. Phil Davis fought that one dude. In Brazil?

Yeah. Did they stop the fight because of an eye gouge? Yeah, they stopped the fight. I couldn't say. A Vitor, who was it, Vitor against Randy.

Randy Couture, but that was a different thing. That was actually a punch sliced the upper eyelid. Like his eyelid was open. Like you could keep his eye closed. You could see his eyeball through it. Yeah, and it was from a punch.

Like the grazing of the side of the glove did that. I think you just got to chalk it up, man. Part of the sport. You say that, but have they looked at all the options? Because I feel like people can figure something out. First of all, Tim Kennedy said they should use the pride gloves. Jamie, go grab some. They're in the back.

I had them. I brought them in just for this discussion. They cover the fingers a little more. A little more. But they accentuate the curve, apparently, according to James Kennedy. So they keep your fingers a little bit more curved. Keep you in this position, whereas the UFC gloves, you actually have to stress to close your hand.

Here it is right here. This is the official pride glove. I'm not mad at those. Brian of London Real. You know what? That makes sense. I like that guy. That makes sense.

It forces your hand to curve. If you want to straighten it, you can, but you've got to force it. Yes, exactly. That's a very good concept. Well, and then Everlast recently developed a glove for Bellator that they're allowing the UFC to use. There's definitely more covering the fingers. I bet you meant Everlast the rapper.

That sounds like the intent. My man. He's a bad motherfucker. Antropandua. They developed a glove that Bellator is using where it covers it makes the hand bend more it's more formed like a fist

like that one I think even more so maybe even better than the Pride one but the Pride one the fingers don't spread apart as much like look when you open your hand hold your hand up like that it seems like there's a little more

coverage of the fingers. Yeah, there is. A little bit more, a little longer. A little longer. Damien Maia, Alexander Yokolev. Man, I hope Maia uses his jiu-jitsu. What's his background? It's so beautiful. I don't know. I'm not aware. I'll look it up real quick.

But this... The struggle is real to get this glove on, by the way. Is there more padding on these, though, than in UFC gloves? It looks ridiculous with that glove on. I want to just start walking around with this, just in case. I think they're the same weight. Why does he look ridiculous with a glove on? I don't know, man.

That guy's a real fighter. Yeah, legit. Dude, I boxed today with Wayne McCullough. You have been boxing a lot this week. Yes, I have. They do have a little more padding onullough. You have been boxing a lot this week. Yes, I have. They do have a little more pattern on the front. Like you said, your hands are curved. Yeah.

It makes your hands curve a little bit more. Oh, you want to hear something random? You know the Nods commercial with the guy with the mohawk who gets knocked out by the guy with the... The worst commercial of all time. Yeah, the guy. I took a lesson at Revolution MMA in Toronto from that guy who knocks him out. A Muay Thai lesson. It was really cool.

And you know Joe Gerson, Joe, the guy who armbars Sato? You know that guy? Terrible story, Brad. Your stories are hurting tonight. That was a good story. You were the struggle in the story. I'm trying to be cool.

It was so bad. We talked about it last night. His instructor is in that commercial. And I show up, and it's the guy. I'm like, you're the guy from the Nas commercial. Listen, there's a million guys out there who train and wear tap-out shirts that look exactly like that guy. No, no, that was him. It was him.

Well, that's what he told you. No, we talked about it. Of course. That's a claim to fame. No, it was just random. People get mad when you call it. There's people online that get mad when we goof on Brian. Oh, I know.

They've gotten mad. I heard his feelings. I got fans. You're bullying. I got fans. You're bullying Brian. You're bullying. You guys bully Brian?

You have a reputation for that? Well, the last podcast we did. You know how sensitive I am. The last podcast we did, we actually got tweets that were accusing us of, people don't understand ball busting. I don't know if you guys don't have any friends. That's what guys do, yeah. Yeah, but you guys who are freaking out because we bust each other's balls, go get some friends.

Also, also, also, I'm not very sensitive if you haven't noticed. Yeah, well, you don't understand. He likes it. Like, half of the reason why he acts retarded is so that we'll call him on it. Yeah. It's good entertainment. It's good entertainment. It's not very subtle, ladies and gentlemen, okay?

And if you're freaking out and attaching that much to dudes who obviously like hanging out with each other, I don't know. Maybe you have friends at home that you don't really like and you're trapped. I mean, I do go home and cry, but that's not the case here. Brian cries at night. I do, in my hands. Or you can come down to Abbott-Kenney. I'll bully you down

there. Let you feel like Brian Callenfield. Shut me around. Mr. Callen, can I have some of that delicious wine? My friend, that's what I brought it for. Eddie, do you want some wine? Because somebody's training right now, so they can't have it. Man, I'll tell you. Brendan Schaub. Don't get in his way when he's hungry.

Less than two weeks away, Brendan Schaub. Yes, sir. Go time. How you feeling, baby? Good, man. Ready to go. I've never been more excited for a fight. Eddie, go get a glass right in there I saw the The trailer Did you see the trailer

That Linkin Park released For UFC 174 No I didn't Watch that and you will be Amped Really Linkin Park did it Linkin Park Yeah

Holy shit Man it's dope Dana White tweeted it out Yeah They played it on Well you're obviously working But they played it on UFC 173

And I was watching it with some buddies And I don't know. Things got real. It's like, oh shit, we're two weeks away here, boys. You're ready, baby. Wow. Your main card, right? I just like asking dumb questions. Yeah, yeah. Why don't you play it? Have you found it?

It's the Linkin Park UFC 174. Get a little standard Linkin Park with an acoustic set. Not gonna lie, it wasn't that good. Ooh, I love Linkin Park. Acoustic was different. Anyways, they played Not going to lie, it wasn't that good. Ooh, I love Linkin Park. Yeah, acoustic was different. Anyways, they played this promo, and yeah, I didn't say a word for the rest of the night. Kind of went home. Never back down MMA motivation featuring Linkin Park.

Is that it? Nah. UFC 174 promo. UFC 174 promo. Okay. That might be it. Get lifting. Hold on.

Hold on. That's not it. All right. Promo. Hold on. Hold on. No, that's not it. All right. Promo. There you go. Wastelands? Yeah, that's it. Wastelands.

What's that? Waste? It's called Lincoln Park Wastelands. Okay. Slap that bitch on. Okay. I'll do it. Here.

Wastelands. And then you see how stacked this card is. 174. There it is. Anyway, back to my story about taking a lesson from Hold on. Would you save that story? Sorry.

No, you gotta go back to the other one. You clicked the wrong video. I did? Yeah. Go backwards. It was the second one. What's that? Yeah, that's it. What's that? Yeah, I muted it already. The second one.

The second one. Wastelands preview. Okay, here we go. Yeah, that's it. Wastelands. There it is. I don't hear shit. Okay, slap that bitch on.

Why am I hearing that? Now you got to hear the music, man. Why is this fucking... I shut this off. I'm gonna shut the Ustream off. Where am I hearing that from, Jamie? This guy's 6'3", 170. What's that?

Tall man. Oh, there's two windows open. That's what it is. Okay. Let me play this for you guys the wastelands preview hope damian maya uses jujitsu i hate how he's been striking lately drives me nuts the volume is down on that youtube browser too oh is it well let's play this when the fight's not on. Good call.

Because I'm a mess here. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Come on, Damian Maia. It's got to be a big weight cut for a Damian Maia set. No, it's easy, bro. He just fucking one day has a good match. He's got some tits on him. Damian Maia went on that losing streak because for whatever reason,

you have this world-class jiu-jitsu, and they're like, you know what? I like striking. I'm not going to take guys down. I just want to strike. It's crazy to me. They get in these ruts. Tagged Mark Munoz and hurt him, you know, and I think he – They fall in love with it. Getting better at it.

But he still uses his jiu-jitsu. Now he is. Now he's at 170. He is. At 85 he wasn't. Yeah. That Rick Story fight was incredible. You remember when he tossed Chael Sonnen and landed in that mounted triangle?

It was beautiful. So sick. Yeah. I think it's so scary for a lot of Brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioners to get into MMA and all of a sudden some dude's trying to fucking knock him out. It's scary. Oh, yeah. So when they get to the point where they actually can do it and they're getting hit and they're like,

fuck, there's nothing to be scared of. And even though they lose decisions, I think they like it. I think like George Urgell, he's losing decisions, but he's like, fuck, I'm not afraid of this shit. I'm a fucking savage. He's getting hit, he's getting cut up, and he just keeps going forward. I think that feels good to them. He's got jujitsu.

It definitely feels good to knock people unconscious. This guy looks like powder and he seems to be moving away a lot. And especially when a guy like Damien Maia gets knocked out inside the octagon and now he can do it to people. Yeah. So I think they even though they lose a decision, they just like it. They like throwing down. Here we go.

But it's also, you know, you gotta realize that a guy like Damien Maia got so fucking good at jiu-jitsu because he becomes obsessed. And he probably just assumes he's going to get that good at striking. You would think that would be his home base, though. He's threatening everybody everywhere. Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. He has gotten a lot better with his hands. Oh, way better.

Way better. Way better. The way he's moving. Yeah. He looks much more like a striker. Yep. There's that weird way that grapplers move when you know they can't strike at all. It's real awkward.

It's very stiff. Yeah. But when you see a guy get that certain fluidity to him, and it's weird. Like, it doesn't always translate that way because some guys look kind of awkward, but they're really good strikers. I love Damian Maia because I was at a real low point in my life when I was fighting in Brazil. And I was getting acai at, like, two in the morning after i fought no gara and uh he came up gave me a big hug in front of all these people oh that's cool yeah man that's really cool yeah it's a very nice guy yeah certain stuff you don't forget you know yeah no that's very cool man so he's doing well

with his jab popping that jab out there but he hasn't been able to get a hold. This Russian dude is a master of sport in both. Oh! Look at that left, right. A master in sport in what? Master of sport. He's going right to the mount. Right to the mount, son. It's over.

Master of sport in sambo and jiu-jitsu. It's over. Oh, those are big, big elbows. Good luck getting him off a mount. Yeah. Yeah. He's got two and a half minutes in this. His mount is sick. It off a mount. Yeah. Yeah. He's got two and a half minutes of this. His mount is sick.

It's a building. Oof. Damien Myers has such textbook jiu-jitsu. I'll tell you right now. What are the odds that this guy survives this round? What are the odds? I'd say they're 50% because this guy's a master of sport in sambo and a master of sport in wrestling. He knows how to fucking survive.

I say less than 30%. You think this is going to be over? Yes. If you had to bet money? Yes. I would bet on it right now. I feel like he's been, he has no confidence. Okay, I'll bet you 10 bucks.

10 bucks right now that he'll survive. Okay, I'll take that bet. Hey, guys, no gambling. No, no, 10 bucks that he'll survive. I say he doesn't survive. I say he survives, right? Nope. No, no, I said he survives.

Oh, yeah. I said. Damien, I'll bet both of you, so I'll give you 20. Okay, I'm saying he's going to survive. Okay. I say the homeboy totally survives. Nope. I say he survives. Oh, yeah. I said. Damien, I'll bet both of you. So I'll give you 20%. I'm saying he's going to survive. Okay. I say the homeboy totally survives. Nope. I say he survives.

Yeah, he's going to survive. He looks fresh right now. Look, all he's got to do is keep coaching. He's going to take those elbows. I mean, he's definitely, he could get stopped, but I think it's a little bit better than 50% that he's going to make it. He's got a minute 30. He's going to survive.

You guys know that. Come on, Damien. These Russian dudes are tough as shit, son. I realize this. These dudes are tough as shit, son. I realize this. Damn, you got 20 bucks on the line. Yeah, I do. 10 me, 10 Joe. There's so many of these cats that are entering into the UFC.

There's also guys that are entering into Bellator, too. There's some sick Russians over there as well. I'll tell you right now, when this dude was getting ready for the game plan for Damian Maia, they said, first round, do not let him get on top of you. Oh, it did. Said, don't let him mount you. Shit hit the fan. But still, he's got a minute to go.

He got caught. He got caught. Plenty of time. Plenty of time. He's going to spin for a sick-ass armbar any second now. He might. His corners can go 30 seconds. Do you like that, though, up against a cage like that?

No, it makes it tough. It seems like it's not a lot of room. Yeah, it makes it tough. I have a win-win situation because if I lose your money, that means Damian Maia wins. 51 seconds you got. I want him to win, so makes it tough. I have a win-win situation because if I lose your money, that means Damien Maia wins. 51 seconds, you guys. I'm wanting to win, so. Come on.

I think Damien's going to win, but he's going to win in the second and third. He's not going to finish. Dude is too fresh. He's scary. I'll tell you that, man. Oh, big elbows. His elbows are ferocious. You got a half a minute?

Oh, son. He missed. He missed. He missed. That S grip is pretty crazy. Triangle coming up, son. Hot triangle coming up. 30 seconds left. Hot triangle.

He got him down. He got back down, though. He's creeping up with that arm. Oh, he's creeping on the cage. He's going to try to get that. He's going to try to get his leg under his head. Oh. He's trying for that right arm, man.

He's trying for that right arm. Oh. There he was. I thought he had it. Yeah. It looked like he was going to set up for a triangle. His elbows are ferocious. Like a slow triangle right there. Slow triangle right there. Arm bar, too. Don't for it. Yeah. It looked like he was going to set up for a triangle. His elbows are ferocious. Like a slow triangle right there.

Slow triangle right there. Arm bar too. Go for it, son. Slow triangle right there. Boom. Damien Maia. Damn you. Spiderweb right there.

He can't spin to the left arm. I know he can't. Is it over? Dang it. No, no, no. Save it. Save it. Save it.

We're going to bet some more. We'll bet some more. Let it ride. Let it ride. America. I was right. Nice, fresh 20-piece right here. I want to take more of your money. All right. $10 ain't going to do shit for my life. Oh, my God. Eddie's ride. America. I was right. Nice, fresh 20-piece right here. I want to take more of your money.

10 bucks ain't going to do shit for my life. Oh, my God. Eddie Bravo's on fire. Eddie's on fire, man. It's the Indian. One sip of wine. One sip of wine. The Indian came out.

The Indian came out. Indians fucking crashed out right now. There it is. By the way, the Instagram picture of you and Brennan, your head is about twice as big as the heavyweights over here. Yeah, my uncle used to call me moonhead. I always had a big head, and that really hurt me. Why?

You got a heavyweights head. So now I call all my head instructors moonheads, because they're like moons. So now I turn moonhead into something positive. So I changed it. I regret that training. Moons in the 10th planet system. Where do you teach, Eddie, still? Downtown.

It's too far from me. A lot of seminars, too. It's too far. Where do you live? Monday through Thursday, 830. Too far? 830. How is it too far?

How can you say it's too far? I go there. I got guys from San Diego coming up. Yeah, how could you say it's too far? I got too much. Come on down. Brother, why don't you come down, man? I got a lot of writing. I absolutely love you You don't have too much to say. Brother, why don't you come down, man? I got a lot of writing.

I absolutely love you. Guys, between Kung Fu and my step class, I don't have... You want me to show up? I'll dedicate that class just to making sure you leave with something that you can use in your career. I will definitely take you up on that. This is Joe. Joe. Joe.

Monday through Thursday, 8.30 at night. No traffic. Boom. You hit downtown. I got people coming from Costa Mesa. I'm not scared of traffic. No. Brendan Shaw is a professional, goddammit. night, no traffic. Boom, you hit downtown. I got people coming from Coastal Mason. I'm not scared of traffic, no. Brendan Schaub's a professional, goddammit.

Yeah, he is. Brian Callen, if you make him walk across the street to get it, he's like, no, it's too far. I couldn't even go to Verdun's if I could walk there. I can't make it there. I can't make it. I can't, I can't, guys. It's too far. It's too far.

Hey, you have your invitational tomorrow, right, Eddie? Yes. Tomorrow? Yes, tomorrow I have a jiu-jitsu tournament. I put together a submission-only jiu-jitsu tournament called Eddie Bravo Invitational. It's at the Florentine Gardens in Hollywood. If you're anywhere in Southern California. What time does it start?

Doors open at 4.30 p.m. First match starts at 6, and we have a 145 16-man bracket and a 170 16-man bracket. We got Gary Tonin at 170. Remember the match we talked about him and K 170 16-man bracket. We got Gary Tonin at 170. Remember the match we talked about him in Crone Gracie? Gary Tonin is the number one seed at 70 and at

145, Jeff Glover. He's a scrappling. He's number one at 145. So basically, I got some 10-planet black belts that are basically going to probably end up in the finals. It's going to be Gary Tonin against Boogie, maybe, or if Gary Tonin even gets by Nathan Orchard, one of my black belts.

Who knows what happens, but it's going to be fucking insane. Either way, great matches. By the way, Damian Maia got homeboy gown. Bad situation. He got him down again. Yeah. Now let's see if we want to bet. Damian Maia is mounting anyone in the division he gets down there.

Now what, guys? Now what? Who wants to take a bet? I say the guy doesn't get out of this round. I say he finishes him. I say he finishes him. Right here? No, I agree.

I think he's going to finish him. He's going to finish him. What do you think? He's going to finish him or survive? Three minutes? No, no. He's going to finish him. I think he's going to finish him.

You know what? I'm a contrarian. He's not going to finish him. Do it, Russia. Look how this guy cannot get out from under the mount, Brian. This is like watching a blue belt versus a black belt. It's a bad situation. And I'm not saying this guy's a blue belt, but I'm saying Damien Maia would do the same

to so many black belts. Yes. He's so goddamn good. The only thing helping this guy is the cage. If the cage wasn't there, Maia would be doing some serious work. Yeah, if they were in the center. Frank Mir told me that he, like, this is like Frank Mir's goddamn black belt, right? Everybody says Frank Mir's black belt.

But he told me after he rolled with Damian Maya, he goes, I'm not really a black belt. He goes, I'm like a brown belt. Jesus, really? He really said that. Wow. He said, you can't believe how good this guy is. Come on. Yeah.

He's a 1% of 1% Frank belts. Does he tap Frank Mir, though? Frank, I don't know. I didn't ask that. That's disrespectful. How dare you? But Frank is, you know Frank, I don't know. I didn't ask that. That's disrespectful. How dare you? But Frank is a super smart dude. If you've never had a conversation with Frank Mir, he's very smart.

Very well-read. Very well-read guy. And very honest, too. He's not a bullshit artist. So when he's telling you about how good Maya is, it's come from a guy who's got an education. Look how easily he trapped that. Did you sweat that? That move where the guy was trying to hip escape?

Yeah. And how beautifully Maya made that transition back to full mount, like this inevitable. He's got him in the middle. He's got him in the middle. Dude put everything into trying to get out of that fucking mount. Look how good Maya's mount is. With his hooks, he's just controlling his legs.

When he throws to explode, he's just taking it away. And now he's got that arm triangle. Now he's got that arm. See, he's not going to. You can't get out of that shit like you can with another guy's arm triangle. Damian Maya has wicked positioning. Like, look how good he's holding his position. Taking the back.

Taking the back. Using that hook. Oh, damn. Oh, look, he lost it. Oh, damn. He lost it. Wow. Shocked.

Shit. Shocked. Okay, he makes it out of this round now. The guy's going to make it out now. Don't ever argue with me, guys. Yeah, he's it. Oh, damn. He lost it. Wow. Shocked. Shit. Shocked. Okay, he makes it out of this round now. The guy's going to make it out now. Don't ever argue with me, guys. Yeah, he's going to make it out now. Don't think about me. I know fighting.

He's going to take him down. Maya's wrestling is pretty on point nowadays, too. Oh, look at this knee attack. Oh. This guy's game. Oh, damn. He's got a guillotine. Yeah, he's got an arm in.

Oh, no. No, he doesn't have shit. That's not going to work on Maya. Maya's got to be hurt. Look at this.'s got an arm in. Oh, no. No, he doesn't have shit. That's not going to work on Maia. Maia's got to be hurt. He's throwing him over. He might switch his darts. He's got to be hurt to get choked. He's just exhausted, I think.

Yeah, Maia's pretty tired. Maia's exhausted. I mean, he really went for it. That's the only chance this guy has of submitting Maia's. This guy's no fucking joke, man. His jiu-jitsu is no joke, though, man. He's good defense. Good defense getting out of that arm triangle.

You know, he couldn't get out of Damien's mouth, but look, he's still here. He's surviving. He's going to get swept here. Let's see. Double underhooks with full guard, though. He's not trying to sweep him. He's just hanging on. And then he triangled his body.

It never makes sense to me in MMA when guys triangle the body. Not from the ground. Never. From the back. From the back, yes. Totally. But from guard, what are you trying to do? You're trying to hang on. That's what I think he's trying to do. I think, not from the ground. Never. From the back. From guard? From the back, yes. From the back, yes. It makes sense totally, but from guard. From guard? What are you trying to do?

You're trying to hang on. That's what I think he's trying to do. I think he's trying to catch his breath. He's trying to rest, yes. Yeah. If you go for a body, like he's letting it loose here, but if you go for a body triangle in full guard, you're not trying to set up a submission. There's nothing.

You literally can't do anything. It's a stalling position. You could start. Sometimes you need a stall. You could let it go yourself, though. The thing about it is you could let it go yourself. You control it. Yeah. So say if a guillotine presented itself, you could let it go yourself, though. The thing about it is you could let it go yourself. You control it. Yeah, so say if a guillotine presented itself, you could always go back to full guard, right?

You could use the real full guard. If somehow or another you could catch something. Anderson used to do that a lot. He used it the most. To hold the guy in line. Strikers are just like, you ain't passing this guard ever. If you just cross your ankles and the guy has a good knee slice, he could open that shit up. But when you're putting on the triangle, you're saying, I ain't trying to shit.

I'm just going to hold you. And sometimes you need to do that. If one of my fighters was mostly a striker and his jiu-jitsu was just coming along and he was in some amateur MMA fight, I'd say, yeah, figure four is fucking body. Don't try no triangles or anything because they'll pass your guard if you fuck up. You'll see high-level guys, though, in the UFC in the first round, they'll do some body triangles, which is, it's always crazy to me. Or they'll be losing the fight and it'll be like second round, third round, and they do body triangles. Zero sense. From the back or from the guard? From the guard.

Yeah. From the guard's weird. It's insane. Because nothing's going to happen, in other words. No, you're losing the fight. Right. It's so critical for the back. You're taking away two of your weapons anyway.

But really, he's losing the fight and he's like, and this shit's looking really bad. I'm on my back. I'm not very good on my back. I'm not going to let it get worse, so I'm going to put on a triangle. That's what they're thinking. I'm not going to let it get any worse. It's getting really bad right now.

They'd rather survive with the guy on their guard than have the guy pass and mount him And then really take him out This Yakalov guy is tough man Let's see if he comes on the third round He just hit Damian Maia with a hard fucking leg kick Let's not forget he's 6'3 What the hell happened there? Wow

Damian Maia is He's tired man He exerted a lot of energy trying to finish in that second round. And I think the 170 cut's tough for him, and we've seen him have problems before. What's he walk around at, actually? Like 200 pounds or something? He's a big boy. Yeah, he's not small.

Is he? Really? Yakalev just nailed it. He probably walks 190. Look at that. Yakalev just took Damian Maia down. He's tired. He's tired.

Holy shit. No doubt, man. So Yakalev's trying to wear him out. That's why he took him down. He's pushing him right now. Yakalev looks. So Yakulev's trying to wear him out. That's why he took him down. He's pushing him right now. Yakulev looks way more fresh. Yakulev looks way more fresh. But you've got to give the first two rounds to Damien Myers.

No doubt. He has to finish him. Yeah, he's going to lose this fight. Nasty leg kicks, though. He's hit him with three hard leg kicks in this round. Let's see if he can land some strikes. It's kind of interesting, man. I love shifts, you know.

That's what makes fights so interesting. When you see a guy pull victory out of the jaws of defeat, figure out a way to get out of a hole. Like you thought homeboys just can get dominated. I thought he was going to get finished in the first round. Yeah, look at him. Here he is in the third. And Damian Maia can't touch him.

And he hits him again. Boom. You know, Maia's, these hurt, dude. I got my leg massaged today and I almost tapped out. Guy or girl? I was getting a massage. A woman. On your IT?

On your IT? You don't have a guy massager? On the side of your leg. Why is that so sensitive? My calves. But I found a lady who knows how to use her elbows. Nice. She's really knowledgeable, too.

Really knowledgeable. Damn it, Maya's getting fucked up. His leg's getting eat up. I mean, I don't know how many of these he's going to be able to take. You know what? He can't feel them right now, but it's definitely taking a toll on him. But you really can't feel them. He won't be able to walk tomorrow, I bet.

Yeah, I think you're probably right. Look at this, though. Maya gets him down in the mountain again. Mountain again, son. Oh, my God. This is going to win him the fight for sure. Yeah, I think you're probably right. Look at this though, Maya gets him down in the mountain again. Mountain again, son. Oh my god. This is going to win him the fight for sure. Oh, no doubt. He's not getting up. The only way this guy's ever getting out of this position is if Maya goes for an arm bar.

And why would he go for an arm bar if he's dominated the first two rounds? If he's this tired, he's not going to back to his position. But I feel like in that first round he should have went for something, man. Could he get an arm bar from here? You've got spiderb transition methodically. High mount.

Yeah. Why isn't he doing it? Because he doesn't want to. He wants right now to just punch this guy. Because he's tired. He's tired. Too hard because they're slippery or he just doesn't think he can get it. He wants to be able to get enough energy for a burst,

and he wants to be able to get it in a position where he's reasonably convinced that he's going to be able to finish it. Right. He just doesn't want to exert everything and wind up in the bottom getting ground and pounded when the bell winds out. Because that's what happened in that one round. He got reversed and, you know, that's...

For a guy like that, that fucking sucks. You know, he doesn't want to feel that. He's a dominant ground fighter. That's a terrible feeling that he fucked up and wound up on the bottom that it could have cost him the round. You know, that kind of feeling. Mm-hmm. But look, his mount is like a goddamn building in your chest.

So good. So good. I love seeing it, man. I know some people at home are like, oh, this is so boring. I literally, there's nothing more I like to see. When you see a guy whose mount is that goddamn solid. What's funny is you can't really see what he's doing. Like, he just looks like he's sitting.

Look at his feet, Brian. Look at his feet, the way he controls. When he goes to explode, he takes one of them away. Yeah. It's also his balance and his positioning. It's insane. What it is is a lot of it is a knowledge of jiu-jitsu first, knowing what to do in any given circumstance,

and then thousands of hours. I thought that guy just tapped. What did he just do? It really is just like riding a wild bull. It's the exact same thing. The same muscles, same balance. You see guys lose mount all the time in the UFC. All the time.

But world-class black belts like Damian Maia, they have that next-level type mount. They don't get bucked off because they've been on longer. He's been in this position thousands of hours since he was six. So to him, this is home. And you're saying watch his feet. Watch his feet. When this guy goes to explode, he's going to take away one of his hooks.

Yeah, look how beautifully he transitions. Oh, as he gets dismounted. As he loses his mouth. Damn you, Ryan. But no, no, no. Look, the guy gets the half guard and boom, right into side control. And he's going to take his back again. Man.

This guy's got to do something. He's got a half a minute, so he's got to do something. He's either going to take his back. Look,. This guy's got to do something. He's got half a minute, so he's got to do something. He's either going to take his back. Look, he gave him the options. He gave him two options. He either takes his back or I mount you. Yeah, but dude, go for it. He's going to set up a triangle.

He's stepping over right now. Here he goes. 20 seconds to go. Let's see if he can pull it off. He's got both arms in, though, man. He does. He might do an arm bar. He's going for an arm bar.

He lost the arm. Wow. He's still trying to set it up. Too sweaty. He's still, yeah, too sweaty, my friend. Look at this. He's still spitting on him on him i wish you had done that in the first round damian maya you owe me 20 the juice is running you ever see that video oh the guy's back up on his feet holy shit oh they kicked him right oh shit that was it damn the russian guy's not

russian guy has to be frustrated. Yeah, not so happy. He got mounted for basically nine minutes in the 15-minute fight. That guy's jiu-jitsu is so goddamn good. I love it. But I love the fact the Russian dude made it to the end. Yeah. Very interesting stuff. There's a wave of these dudes coming over, man.

I was talking about this with Henner. When guys get to mount, some people freak out like, oh, the fight's over. It's typically not these days because there's not a high-level jiu-jitsu going on a lot of the times. So guys get to mount and they lose it. They just think it's over because it's two guys who don't know jiu-jitsu, and there's a big heavy guy in mount, and he's going to punch his face in. But in most cases, guys are getting out these days. I don't think this is as dangerous as everyone thinks.

Look, first of all, keep that Russian guy out of the sun, please. Yeah, what, burning the flames? He would start smoking. I was going to say he needs a spray tan. Did you see Michael Chiesa and Trinaldo, that last fight? I did not. Dude, Michael Chiesa's got a goddamn ground game. Holy shit.

Trinaldo's a beast, dude. Chiesa was mounting him, and it was really hard for that dude to get him off of him. As soon as he got him down on the ground, I mean, it was just smothering. Kiesa was the guy. Just adjusting. Constantly adjusting. When I saw Kiesa in Ultimate Fighter, I thought that guy was going to last one second, and he ends up winning it.

How about Tony Ferguson? Did you see that Cocoono fight? Yeah. He beat the shit out of Cocoono. You know what he told me? You know what Tony told me? He's a 10th planet purple belt, so we talk a lot, and he comes to HQ every Thursday night. So he's training at 10th Planet Costa Mesa with Casey.

He comes to Reign, too. I see him every Tuesday, Friday. Yes, he goes to Reign as well. Great kid. You know, he says, what do you think about Cucuno? I go, my advice was, I suggest shit. I'm not going to tell a fighter of mine what to do. I'm just going to suggest it. I said, the only way he's going to beat you is standing.

He's fucking everybody up. He goes after the liver. You know, Kakuno? He's like a weird dude who does karate. The worst style I've ever seen in the UFC. All he does is drop dudes with liver kicks, and he's fucking people up. It worked in Japan so well that he got into the UFC And I said don't fuck around with that

Take his ass down Tony wrestled in college Tony's Jiu Jitsu is insane His transitions are sick I was most impressed with Kakuno Not just that he took those punches But that he got out of that darts Then I talked to Tony afterwards

He was squeezing right He just wanted even trying to finish the darts. Yeah, he wasn't squeezing, right? He just wanted to get him tired. Yeah. Get his heart rate up, right? So this is what he told me. I said, I would take him down. I go, what do you want to do?

Just don't fuck around. Don't give him a shot. Take him down. And he said, you know what? I'm going to dot him up a little bit. And I think, you know, play with him a little bit. Then I'm going to take him down and submit him. I said, that's what you want to do?

Go for it I'm like you're going to You're going to dance around With this guy Who's dropping fool after fool With liver shots You're going to give him a shot I go go for it

That's how He's fucking like Conan the Barbarian Not only He does exactly that He dots them up Took them down Owned them on the ground

And then stood up And knocked them the fucking Out with a big right hand Holy shit He got tagged In the first round, too. Kakuno tagged him. Kakuno is one of those guys you get one shot to try and fight him, right? You're not going to duplicate that in the training room.

You get one live shot at this dude. Honestly, I got to be honest, I was laughing at him. You could get a guy at Kakuno, just his fighting style. This ain't Japan, homie. You get punched right in the face. And Tony Ferguson is a monster. Just his fighting style. This ain't Japan, homie. You get punched right in the face. And Tony Ferguson is a monster. He's a monster.

I've been in the MMA industry. That's 155. I've been getting paid working in the MMA industry since 2000. I've seen a lot of motherfuckers come and go. I've seen fighters come and go. Fight camps come and go. Apparel. MMA apparel companies come and go. I've seen working backstage at the UFC for eight years. You see them come and go. You see them come and go. Apparel. MMA apparel companies come and go. I've seen working backstage at the UFC for eight years.

You see them come and go. You see them come and go. Seriously, I've never met anybody like Tony Ferguson. He's an animal, man. I've never met anybody like him. Why? He really is like an Operation 40 secret assassin. He was born to do this.

Is that right? He was born to do it. He's studying the game. I've never seen anybody study the game like him. In what way? Dude, he just breaks shit down and puts... He is learning jujitsu at such a rapid pace. He's got all these transitions that him and Casey are putting together.

And they come up on Thursdays and they show me what they've been working with. I'm like, they're putting insane stuff together. There's not too many guys I'll stop and watch spar, right? Because I have an ego. There's not too many guys I'll stop and watch spar Right? Because I have an ego There's not too many guys I'll stop Because I got an ego There's not too many guys who I'll stop and watch spar But when Tony spars, I'll watch

Why? Because he jacks dudes Really? Yeah I like it when he comes to the gym I'm like, can we fight? He's like, two And I'm like, who's sparring with Tony?

I'm like, excellent I'll get my rounds in Just watch He destroys these guys He said, I'm going to dot this dude up a little bit He said I'm gonna dot this guy I love that expression This guy's like killing everybody

If I get in a fight Even if the guy's really tough I'm gonna look at him I don't care who it is I'm gonna go Hey bro Just so you know Gonna dot you up a little bit

And then take you down And then take And not only did he take him down He got his back And picked him up In one of those Like Kevin Randleman Fedor slam

God damn it It was an epic Before I die Olympic judo throw Before I die Hey bro Just so you know and picked him up in one of those Kevin Randleman Fedor slams. God damn it. It was an epic Olympic judo throw. Before I die. Hey, bro, just so you know. Gonna dot you up. Gonna dot you up. And I'm going to do it like that.

Gonna dot you up. You're going to be like that old dude at the newsstand that gets knocked out by some young kid because you think life is a fucking movie. You want to try that out. Well, by the way, just so everyone knows. By the way. When I hit 55, I'm going on the juice. Going to get thick as shit. I hope so, man. Going to shave down, go on the juice, get a second hair transplant.

They say that Kakuno has a successful MMA apparel store in Japan. Can I see it? I bet people are going in there and be like, hey, bro, you think that style's the best way to go? Because in Japan, he's probably killing people. He's killing people in Japan. He's killing guys, but it's all about levels. There's dudes who are killing guys in other organizations, and then they get into the

UFC, and you realize- Different animal. Yeah, you look really good when you're fighting B-level fighters, but when you get in there with an A-level fighter, you're going to get fucked up. You're going to have all your fucking T's crossed, all your I's dotted, and some guys just don't. And when your hands are down by your dick and you're moving around like you're in a karate movie,

you really don't have the, you know, you have a unique thing you're doing. It was super, literally, my brothers call me, we were laughing. We laughed at him. See, but he tagged Tony in the first round. Oh, dude, that's what I'm saying. For Tony, it's such a dangerous fight Cause you only get

One live shot at that And the dude hits hard as hell He does So it's like So you better bring your A game Or you can get dropped But Tony was Once Tony got comfortable

Tony started lighting him up And once Tony started lighting him up Once you figured out that stance You're like Oh this is cool Then the style looked really dumb Yeah Then it looked really dumb

That's when I started laughing He hit that swim move off the back got him in the spider web it was fucking I gotta see this fight it's an amazing fight nice swim move

how long did it go I really see first round first round oh very end of first round that's right I wish you would have finished there

I believe we're gonna see Tony Ferguson versus like Anthony Pettis and Ben Henderson Gilbert Melendez I think he's that fucking good. What a killer division. He's a lot bigger than those guys, too.

At the rate he's getting his jiu-jitsu... I mean, his jiu-jitsu is like... Do you guys roll? You don't pay attention to what the fuck you say. He was explaining that Tony comes and trains there every Thursday. You weren't paying attention to him. There's no fight on right now, Brian. He was explaining that Tony comes and trains there every Thursday. No, I was watching the fight, bro. You weren't paying attention to him.

There's no fight on right now, Brian. He was waiting. I was with Chuck Liddell. That's who I was watching. He was waiting for his time to talk. Chuck Liddell. That's a great commercial. That's an outrageous accusation.

That's like Chuck Norris right there. He's the real Chuck Norris, dude. Guys. Look at this commercial. It's a great commercial. And he's wearing toenail polish the whole time. Oh, fantastic. Dude. That's the last. Proven tough. That was like some. the whole time. Ah, fantastic. Dude.

You're a last. Proving tough. That was like the Dos Equis most interesting man on the highest level. That was interesting. It was interesting. When you talk about levels, though, and when you get to the higher levels, fundamentals are everything. Fundamentals are everything.

Brendan's not impressed with who? The Chuck Norris commercial. Brendan Schaub's not impressed. You didn't like that commercial? That's alright man Dude How does it get bigger than that? It didn't fly It was like the biggest you can get

Yeah but that's not what it's all about He's like that shit's ridiculous Yeah That's ridiculous He's a fighter He can't get into some Chuck Norris We're gonna give you a million dollars We got this concept for this commercial

You wouldn't be trying to argue with the director You would just fucking do it. Oh, I'd be doing some bullshit. I'd be fucking a plastic doll. You'd be fucking a real doll. Fucking dick. Million dollars. Well, I don't have a problem with it at all because it's so unrealistic.

You know, slamming your head into a wrecking ball. It's so over the top. You get the point. The car stops in the midair and he just steps out. Yeah. You kind of, you know, you got to let that slide. On your shorts, Brandon, you'll have real Dawn on your ass. Real out. Yeah. You kind of, you know, you got to let that slide. On your shorts, Brandon,

you'll have real Don on your ass. Real Don? Yeah. That'd be dope. With a silhouette of a real Don. It's the logo.

I thought about getting a guy real Don and using it as a jujitsu dummy. I'm like, what would be a better thing to use? But you'd have to explain.

You'd have to call a factory. I don't want no holes, bro. You want a hole in your mouth? Close up all the holes. You can rent it out. No. I don't want a dick. Dude, you want a hole in the mouth? Close up all the holes. I don't want a hole in the butt. You can rent it out. No. I don't want a dick. You can rent it out.

No, no, no. And then you go. I don't want additional income. Can you imagine? You're renting it out. But guys wanted to give you, just because you owned it. It was your real dog.

$10,000, just a session. I find my DNA inside of it. $10,000 cash. $10,000 cash. I find my common side of it. Digging out the hole. What would it take? What would it take?

It was mine. I tried it. $50,000? You call back and you go alright one hole but that's where I draw the line just one hole

if a dude wanted to give you a million dollars to borrow your just cash you would do it what fuck a guy and a heartbeat a million

what am I are you kidding me a mil what are you gonna do I'll take some value that's not what I was asking. Eddie, give me your question. You didn't hear what the...

He was saying if someone used your real doll. If someone said, if he had a real doll, a male one, and some guy offered him a million dollars to bone it, he would... Oh, this is a piece. Hold on. Turn the volume up on this, Jamie. I want to hear this. This is a piece on Ali Bagutinov.

Dude, whose names are whose names are harder to remember the russians or the japanese which ones i think it's even this kid is such a beast yeah he's gonna fight demetrius mighty mouse johnson though dude johnson's some next level but he's training with john donson in that picture they just showed him yeah he trains at jackson's? Is he crushing everybody or what? Yeah, he's won like 11 straight. He's the best little Russian? Oh, he's a beast, man.

He's a beast. He's a legit contender, no doubt. But I think if you want to talk about number one pound-for-pound guys, you've got to fucking include this guy. No one's including him. I include him in every list. All I hear is John Jones, who's spectacular, Jose Aldo, who's amazing, but you've got to include this dude in your pound-for- every list. All I hear is John Jones, who's spectacular, Jose Aldo, who's amazing,

but you gotta include this dude in your pound-for-pound list. He does everything perfect. His fucking takedowns are lightning fast. His submissions, he knocked out Benavidez with one punch. He's wicked, bro. He finished fucking Moraga in a war, a four-round war,

and then he finishes him with an armbar. He's the most well-rounded fighter in the sport. He's the most technically sound. He does everything black belt level. Yes. Everything black belt level in his technique and everything is flawless. Crazy. Everything is by the book.

There's no wasted energy. But Bagutinov is a fucking beast, man. He's a big dude. He's strong as shit for 125 pounds, too. I mean, I don't know what he weighs when he actually gets into that octagon, but look at that. Boom. I feel like the little guys are way more happier to get in the octagon and fight, right? You think so?

I feel like it. You think they're more happy? Yeah. What are they going to do? Decision you to death? You know what I'm saying? These little guys? Chances of you getting finished aren't very good.

Really? You think so? You're amazing. He just knocked out Moraga. I mean, he submitted Moraga with an R-bar. I'm saying it's different, man. I'm saying it's different. Overall, I gotta agree with Brennan. Overall, the smaller guys...

You can get knocked out with a jab if you're in the heavyweight division, much less a right. Yeah, I know what you're saying. I feel you. Can I get... Check out that card, though. Come on, son. Rory McDonald with Tyron Woodley. I can't wait. That's craziness. Are you nuts? That. Rory McDonald with Tyron Woodley. I can't wait. That's craziness. Are you nuts? That fight's craziness.

What are you? Tyron Woodley. Look at Andre Alaska. Tyron Woodley pushes the boundaries of how big you can get. That's like a big Demetrius Johnson without the jiu-jitsu. He's a lot shorter than what's his name? Yeah. Who's like a big Demetrius Johnson?

He's like a big Demetrius Johnson without jiu-jitsu. Who is? Woodley? Woodley? Yeah. The speed like a big Demetrius Johnson? He's like a big Demetrius Johnson without jiu-jitsu. Who is? Woodley? Woodley. Woodley? Yeah. The speed. It's way more muscular.

The speed and the strength and the wrestling. He's explosive. Yeah, but he's like a one-punch guy. I think Tyrone Woodley is getting better every fight, and he's definitely going to mix it up with all the top guys. So I know you don't make calls on this, but if you had to put your money on one guy in that fight, right now. On what? Rory McDonald? I would never put money on that fight.

If I was going to put money on that fight, it would be totally private. I would never admit who I'd bet on, but I will tell you the possible scenarios of that fight. Rory McDonald is very skillful, and he's very good at using angles and footwork, and he's got a very educated jab. And if you're not used to that jab, you take a couple of them in the face, like Jake Ellenberger is,

and you go in a defensive shell because you're like, okay, this guy's tuning me up with his jab. He's going to do it all night. Yeah, and every time I close the distance, his jab is wicked. His footwork is wicked. He moves very well. And if you get him on the ground, there's no goddamn pick-wick. There's no goddamn pick-wick. Pick-wick? Pick-wick?

Pick-wick, yeah. His guard is very good. He's very good offensively, defensively. He's got wicked butterfly guards. He keeps your hips elevated. He's fucking good, man, real good. The real question with that guy in that fight is, can he get past that first storm?

Because Woodley's first storm is a motherfucker. It's like a man versus a boy. It's like he's so goddamn physically strong and fast and skilled on top of that. He runs a weird race. That race of the cutting extreme cut of weight, extreme muscle density for 170

pounds. Somebody had a real good point about it on the underground though. They were like, yeah, that costs him, but would he be a better fighter if he didn't have that? That's the question you can't really answer because he's got very special abilities because of that build he could have been a leaner guy if he chose to if he chose to not lift weights if he chose to not eat as much if he chose to do more cardio he could probably get smaller but would he be better as a fighter that's interesting because he presents a lot of unique problems because of the fact that he's so goddamn physically strong.

And at 85, if you stay at 85, he's too small. He's 170, yeah. At 85, he's too small. He's too short. Well, I think that comes back to what I talked about with Tim Kennedy, too, which is there should be more fucking weight classes, period. There should. 170 to 185 is goddamn crazy.

Oh, that's crazy? I don't 206 to 265. The fuck we doing? I think it's fine. We don't need more weight classes. I, that's crazy? I don't 206 to 265. Crazy. The fuck we doing? I think it's fine. We don't need more weight classes. I think it's fine. I mean, you just gotta find your spot. You can't. Until you're 235 pounds,

LeVar Johnson's roided up at 265. That's the game. You guys are animals. You guys are crazy. He's an animal. I disagree with Mr. Bravo. I don't think we need more. I think we need a 225.

There's already a lot of UFC. We can barely keep up with the UFC now. You're going to add another weight? Yeah, but that's for the athletes. Add more chick weights before you add more guy weights. More chick? You want more chick fights? That's a good idea.

Chick fights are awesome. Are you kidding? I agree. Eddie, I agree. It's fascinating watching women with good technique fight. And there's one. There's one. Ronda Rousey.

There's a couple. Is legit black belt, right? Come on, there's a couple. Look at Cyborg. What about Cyborg? Come on. Cyborg and Ronda. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Cyborg and Ronda. Hold up. We're talking about the UFC. I'm not talking about these bullshit amateurs where you get knocked out in Muay Thai events on freaking AXS TV. No, no. I'm talking about Cyborg. She's not coming to the UFC. And there's no 145 category.

And you can't... She's going to 35, dude. She's going after Ronda. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, you're good. You're good. No, she can come after Ronda. You're going to have to pass a lot of steroid tests

and no one's trying to see that bullshit. Well, I mean, Uriah Faber might as well get a tan and jump in there and get a boob job. You know what I'm saying? What are we doing? Uriah Faber with a boob job. Ronda versus Cyborg is going to be the biggest MMA fight in fucking history. You're crazy.

Everyone's going to want to watch it. Every MMA fan, plus their grandmas and their aunts and their little girl cousins, they're all going to watch that one. Do you remember when Cyborg fought Gina? The audience, the screams sound like a Beatles concert. Here's the problem.

A whole different animal, dude. Here's the problem. Cyborg versus Ronda is going to be the biggest fight ever. Trust me. Nah, Cyborg has some work to do. There's a bunch of problems. It's going to happen. She's been tested clean.

Do you train Cyborg? Huh? Do you train Cyborg? No, you don't. You're not a pro Cyborg? I just want to see the fight. Rhonda's fucking everybody up. She needs some competition. Cyborg is very confident she wants her.

That makes a great story. Of course she wants her. She's playing grab ass in the minor leagues. Hell yeah she wants her. That's the payday. If I'm a girl, of course. That's what everybody wants. Don't you think there's an issue? If a woman, let's say she was really taking

male steroids? I don't know. No, she tested positive for it, Joe. She tested positive. So that's a given. She says it was an accident. She says it was something. So no one should ever fight Vitor again?

No one should ever fight Vitor again? No, no, no. Very different. Very different. Very different. A man taking a testosterone supplement when he takes, his body has testosterone. A man taking a testosterone supplement, his body has testosterone. A man's supposed to have testosterone. When a woman takes testosterone, there's physiological changes that are irreversible.

Are you saying Cyborg has male genitalia? No, it's irreversible. They get stronger. They get thicker. They get higher bone density. They get wider. Their face structure changes. Their musculature changes.

I know all that. I know that. And I know, just like Drago, everybody knew Drago was on roids, but they still wanted Rocky IV. You know what I mean? I hate that script! I think it's bad for the sport. I think it's bad for the sport.

Are we going to pretend that a large percentage of, I mean, what are we supposed to do on this show? A large percentage of these fighters are on some shit. That's just the way it is. Don't you think there's a difference between a guy taking guy stuff and a girl taking guy stuff? If a girl's taking male hormones, she's changing her gender. You are probably correct.

I'm not even thinking about that shit. I'm thinking about, I would love to see the fight. I agree with you. I want to see Drago versus Rocky. I agree with you. Rondo's Rocky, Drago is Cyborg. I agree with you and I agree with Schaub. I agree with Schaub as an athlete.

I think Ronda shouldn't have to deal with someone who may or may not have altered their body in a way that's irreversible and gives them an advantage. I'm obviously no doctor, so I don't know if that's the case. But what I've read is that they've showed permanent results, like permanent changes to people who have done things like this. But if Cyborg can suck down 35, that'd be a very, very tough weight cut. Yeah, she's very big. Yeah, I mean, she's very big. So it might even score in that sense. Now, let me ask you something.

Now, of someone, a woman who grows up doing vigorous exercise and gets into judo to the point where she goes to the Olympics, while she's growing, does all that exercise do something to increase her testosterone? It's a very good question. I don't know. Does it? It's a very good question. I would say yes.

It's not artificial, though. It's not artificial. It's hard work. No, no, no. Still, yes, yes. But I know what you're saying. And of course, Cyborg, there should be suspicions. Listen, Cyborg's a monster.

Cyborg's very skilled for sure. No doubt. 100%. She's not just strong. She's not just strong. No, she's very skilled. I think she's a black belt on the ground, correct? Jiu-Jitsu?

Yes. You know, I think she's brown. She's a brown or something. All right, well, let's find out. Either way, she's a monster. Hell of a fighter. I'm just saying there's certain things that need to happen. As a fan, do you want to see that match?

I don't want to see it. No, I don't. Can I get some color on this next fight? I'm just not a fan of Cyborg's, when she fights other girls, it's hard for me to watch. Like when she fought Gina Carano, I didn't like that. Cyborg's a brown belt. She's not a trend. No, I know.

It just looks like two different levels in there. You know what I'm saying? She's a brown belt. It looks almost like a strong-ass girl versus a normal girl. And I don't like to see her just bully him around. But Ronda is strong as fuck. I think Ronda would be a great fight. Nope, nope.

Ronda's technique, though. Ronda's more technique. And she's strong. I've rolled with her plenty of times. Me too. That chick is strong. She's pretty strong, for sure. But Sarah McMahon was more strong.

Look what happened to her. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Can I get some color on Ronda? That's what I'm saying. I want to see Cyborg Ronda. Cyborg's the number five girl who's stronger than her. Ronda her. You know what I'm saying? Cyborg's never fought a girl who's stronger than her. Ronda has.

That's what I'm saying. She destroys them with technique. I want to see it. That would be awesome. Everybody wants to see that. Are you kidding? That's Rocky IV. I don't care for it. I see both of your points of view.

I want to see it as a fan, but... I'd rather watch Misha and Ronda fight nine times. How about that? If the doctors are correct.

Okay, okay. If the doctors are correct and anything that she did take, you know, gives her permanent advantages. How crazy would it be if Ronda beat Cyborg?

That would be amazing, right? It becomes a real weird... I think she beats her, too. But it becomes a real weird discussion. I agree. But when are you allowed to do that? Like, what are you allowed to do to your body? And I think...

Oh, shit! He caught him behind the ear. That was a big shot. This dude is... This is a mad dash. Yeah, these guys are Revved up Good hit glove Yeah good half guard there

It's an interesting conversation Eddie Because I see your point of view as a fan And Brendan I see what you're saying too I mean and I see both of them Because as a fan If it was on Fuck for sure I'm watching I'd be watching

I agree me too I would hope I would call that fight I would hope that would be a pay per view fight And I would get to call it Obviously you would I'm just saying I'm a Cyborg fan. Obviously, you would. I'm just saying. I'm a Cyborg fan. Me too.

Listen, I'm sure I'm going to get some hate for this. There's no disrespect to Cyborg. However, I just don't like to see her bully these little girls. You think Ronda will win, though? Ronda will beat her, yeah. Well, then what's the problem? There's no problem. Did you see her kickboxing bout with Jarena Bars?

Yes, I did. It was great. She got knocked out. Well, she got dropped. Dropped, yeah. Bars is a bad bitch. Well, people, they're like, oh, Cyborg lost. Listen, she fought a very, very high-level striker in her world in kickboxing, Muay Thai.

She took the loss good. Like, post-fight interview, she was like, hey, I'm just in here just getting work. For sure, yeah. You know, she didn't give a shit. No, Cyborg's a monster, man. She's just practicing. It was great. I don't know, man. Blue, blue here. Look, it's interesting, man, man. She's just practicing. It was great. I don't know, man.

Blue, blue here. Look, it's interesting, man. I would like to see it. It's interesting. It's very interesting. But, you know, there's a real discussion to be had. Dude, how about this? What people should be able to get away with and not get away with as far as what they take.

What do you think about Gabby Garcia fighting MMA? She's fighting in MMA. She is. She is. She's way too big for the UFC. Gabby Garcia used to be very heavy. She used to be a gigantic jiu-jitsu chick. 6'4".

She's gigantic. 250 pounds. Giant. She's like a giant dude. Like a 6'3", 6'4". She's giant. And she would just enter absolute because there was no one ever her weight.. She goes absolute There's gonna be an absolute and she just smashes everybody. I was watch I ran into her Abu Dhabi in Beijing

I didn't she I don't think she speaks any English. So we were like in the elevator together and man She it was like a giant Mafioso hit man like right next to me going Wow, and she just smashes everybody but there was a Russian leg lock chick on the other side about 180

and she was leg locking the shit out of everybody on the other side of the bracket and I go oh shit this might this bitch might be trouble for Gabby

who knows because Gabby's just smothering everybody and they met I think in the finals or the semi finals Gabby just fucking destroyed her

smashed her that Russian chick was sad she was sitting on the side by herself for hours just by herself I think in the finals or the semi-finals, Gabby just fucking smashed her. That Russian chick was sad. She was sitting on the side by herself for hours. Just by herself. Hell yeah. But Gabby, since then, she decided to get in the best shape of her goddamn life. She's shredded. She looks like Frank Shamrock.

She's shredded. She lost all that weight. She's a fucking machine. That's a good question What does Gabby Garcia Who's she gonna fight? Who's she gonna fight though?

She's fighting in In Japan In Japan they don't care They'll bring a little Japanese She's like a bop zap You guys Try not to talk over each other

My bad Yeah it's alright Both of you Just let's navigate This a little bit better I agree but It's super hard to listen to When people are complaining

Like a motherfucker Should we tell them To suck on cocks? No, no, no, no. Let's call these fights. Slow down. Let's look at this fight. There's nothing wrong with calling or talking about anything you want.

Look at that shirt. Look how shredded she is. That's her now. I wish you would have found a picture of her fat before. She tested positive for a fertility drug. I don't know what the fuck did that, but if fertility drugs do that, give me four. Gabby Garcia tests positive for a drugs stripped of her 2013 Worlds title. Oh, dang.

What? Women's Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu powerhouse Gabby Garcia failed a drug test from the IBJFF 2013 Worlds and has been stripped of her medals, but it might not be what you think. Hmm. That's interesting. Tests are positive for being jacked. For a fertility drug. I wonder what a fertility drug would do for you. Dude. That's interesting. Test the pause for being jacked. For a fertility drug. I wonder what a fertility drug would do for you.

Dude. What's this guy? I think she took drugs, I don't know, man, for like dragon fertility or something. She doesn't have fucking gargoyles. Can you imagine having a kid with her? I would like to impregnate her and see what happens. That is a, that is a. You know what I mean?

Just as an experiment. I'll just, I'll pay some child support, but. True. That's phenomenal. That is phenomenal. Look at that experiment. I'll pay some child support. That's phenomenal. Look at that body. Gabby is in tremendous. She's going to fight bitches. You're talking about cyborgs. This is cyborg times 10.

I'm a little turned on. I'm actually producing estrogen. Look at her body. That is fucking crazy. Those are better than mine. The greatest fight of all time. You're so hilarious. It's going to be Ronda versus Gabby Garcia.

Ronda versus Gabby. Hey, man, come on. You haven't seen them lately. I'm sure. They're under there. You haven't seen me in that outfit, dude. So before you. We should actually do me in that outfit and see how I look compared to that.

Wow. She's going to jump into MMA. She's fighting on the same card as Kroen Gracie, right? Yes. Is that what it is? Yes. That's incredible. Wow. That's amazing. That's nuts, man. You know what? My hats go off to her. Look at what great shape she's in. She's in phenomenal shape. I don't care if she's a

chicken. She's not supposed to look like that. That's a lot of hard work right there. That's a serious diet and that's a lot of hard training. Look behind you. That's what she used to look like. Yeah, that's incredible. I'm looking at that. Yeah, but it's better, larger. Come on. Look how insane that is. That's hard work right there.

And fertility drugs, apparently. I'd imagine there's some hormonal help involved in that. I would imagine. I'm not saying. Oh, guys, look, Nos. Remember I told you about that story? If you got down to, like, what is her body fat? Look at her right there.

Holy shit. Put that over there, dude. Oh, my God. That's recently. That's when she was coaching Vanderlei on the ultimate. Come on, dude. Come on, bro. She's dwarfing Vanderlei.

Dude, look how big she is. And Vanderlei's on the sauce right there. So what is he, six feet tall, do you think? Yeah, he's about 6'1". Dude, Vanderlei's jack. Look at Vanderlei's biceps. Holy shit. She's bigger, dude.

Yeah. I got her. Meanwhile, we haven't called this fight even slightly. Who's fighting? People are going to hate us. All right, come on. Let's go. Marcio, E-X-A-N-D-R-E.

I would imagine Zandre and Worley Alves. Alves? Worley Alves is the bald dude. It's called... Dude, it's Alexandre. You're like, A-L-E-X. Alves? Warly Alves is the bald dude. It's called... Dude, it's Alexandre. You're like A-L-E-X. Alexandre? No, no, no.

No, no, no. Is it A-L? Yeah. It's Alexandre. Oh, well, they don't have it on the site. His head is in front of his fucking letter and his name. How stupid is that? Look at this.

Oh, God. That's so funny. Look at that. That's so dumb. Alexandre. Who's the dummy? No, it's Alexandre. It's artsy.

Who's the fucking dummy? We're supposed to know what it says. Who's the dummy that does that? that's so funny. Look at that. That's so dumb. Exandre. Who's the dummy? No, it's Alexandre. It's artsy. Who's the fucking dummy? You're supposed to know what it says. Who's the dummy that does that? That's so stupid. You ever did that in a UFC site? That's so dumb. Text Dana. He'll get right to it in 90 seconds.

How could you cover a guy's fucking name with his head? Dana would fucking get right to it. Did you run out of space, you fuck? Alves has been taking it to this guy. I'm sure the guy who designs that website is a very nice guy. I'm sure he is. He just fucked up. He has been taking it to this guy. I'm sure the guy who designs that website is a very nice guy. I'm sure he is. He just fucked up. He has been taking it to him.

Look at him. He's got the underhook and half wash. He goes to full gouache. They're saying, there's a freaking superstar now. They love him. Isn't that hilarious? Yeah, they love him now.

They love him in Brazil. After all the shit he talked about Anderson and all the shit that the people are so mad they wanted to fuck him up for Brazil. He's a genius, dude. No! And the scenes that I saw from that, I've only seen a couple scenes.

He got lucky. He looks really like, he's not non-confrontational. He's letting Vanderlei get mad. Vanderlei was so bad on that show. He's a genius. Chael Sonnen is Jack Armstrong, all American. What did Vanderlei do on the show?

He started to fight with him. He just looked like an asshole. Chael said every time he'd walk into any room, Vanderlei would be there with a mouthpiece and trying to fight him. And Chael was like, bro, listen, behind the scenes, he's like, dude, I'm not going to fight you every time. This is stressful, man. This is for the show.

We're doing this for a show. We're going to fight. You don't have to do this every time. And Vanderlei was not having it. So I was on UFC Tonight last Wednesday, and Chael, we were sitting there, and he just got the text that he's fighting Chael. Vitor, you mean. Yeah, Vitor.

Sorry. Fighting Vitor, not Vanderlei. And Chael said it exactly how everyone was thinking. He goes, well, one guy, you're kind of like, all right, I can beat him. Then when it changes, you're kind of like, alright, I can beat him. Then when it changes, you're like, ah, shit. Yeah, because, I mean, Vitor, man, you're talking a different game now. A totally different game.

Southpaw? Lightning fast, ridiculous striking. I said it. Let's be as honest as possible here. Hard as fuck to take down. Let's be honest as possible here. Post-TRT, how is that possible? How does a guy go from what Vitor was doing in the UFC,

the way he looked, how dominant he was three fights in a row, knocks out Bisping, knocks out Luke Rockhold with a wheel kick to the head, knocks out Henderson in the first round. That's insane. Looks like a destroyer on TRT the entire time. What do you chalk that up to as at his age? That's a good question. But here's the big question. How do you get off of that stuff and then get your test off thrown to a level where you can fight?

Well, when you have a TRT exemption, I think maybe they can be on TRT 24-7 and they don't have to worry about shit. They got the exemption. But now that they're being stricter... No, you don't understand. There's no exemptions. No, there was. Yeah, but they're done. No, no, I know. They're not stricter. No, no, no, I know. They're done.

Now that they're done, does it make the guys go back to the old school way and just say, okay, we gotta cycle in and cycle out? It's gonna be all black. Because we already know about the stricter rules and steroids and then yet Vanderlays on him. He just got popped on a cycle. No, no, no. He didn't get popped.

He just refused to take his test. What does that mean? They came to his office or they came to his gym and they said they need a random drug test from him. And he was like, you don't have any identification. Who are you? I need to get my lawyer to look at this. And he said that he always submits his drug results and submits his blood tests at the proper time.

You've got to give the guys a fair day in court. You can't blame him for that. Okay, that's not a good example. A weirdo could show up and pretend that he's some fucking UFC representative or a Nevada State Athletic Commission representative with no ID or no credential. Bad example, but nonetheless, do MMA fighters, do UFC fighters get tested more often than football players? Do they? Yes, without a question.

often than football players? Do they? Yes, without a question. Football players get tested usually once a year unless you fail it, and then you get put into a program where you're randomly tested throughout the season. Combat sports. Football players just know a few months before and they get off it. Listen, I can help you out with this. It's real simple.

Combat sport athletes in general get tested more than any other sport. UFC fighters get tested more than any other combat athletes. It was just until recently that they started testing drugs uh drug testing boxers and there's a lot of it is floyd mayweather saying a lot of shit about guys like um pacquiao so he submitted to these random you know um olympic style drug tests random they show up at your house at any time they take blood tests from him he submitted to those and he's sort of changing boxing because of that. And he kept saying while he was doing it, we're cleaning up boxing. So a lot of guys were kind of perturbed about

Manny Pacquiao. That was the big rumor. Yeah, he's destroying everybody, but look what happened. The guy's gone through eight goddamn weight classes. And everybody's saying that he's on steroids. I don't know if he's on steroids, but I know that Floyd Mayweather believed he's on steroids and a lot of other people believed he's on steroids.

So they just started testing people on super regular basis. Can they test you for— Shit like this. I'm sorry. Shit like this, where they caught Alistair Overeem, random drug test, where they wanted to do this to Vandale, random drug test. They did it to Vitor, random drug test, and Vitor was on testosterone. And that was the reason why testosterone got banned in the first place.

The whole thing went down when Vitor tested positive. The Nevada State Athletic Commission, after that, before that, they were considering him for a testosterone exemption. And there was a lot of talk whether or not he would be up for a testosterone exemption. But because when they tested him, he tested positive, they scrapped the whole testosterone program. With Vitor, it's tough, man, because you talk about him going on this tear. He was hurting dudes, man. This being his eyes, not the same.

Can you test for a human growth hormone? Yes, you can. Only through blood. Yes, you can, but I don't think they're doing that. Only through blood, and it has to be like you'd have to inject him. They have to test like right away. Oh, Alves tagged him with a right and then got him on the ground. He's got an arm in guillotine. It's tight. That's it. It's over.

It's tight. He's done. He's going out. He's out. Out cold. Eddie, what do you think about this? About a lot of guys don't even go up high on the neck. Like he didn't go high on the neck there. He just pulled back like a regular guillotine. It's okay if you got a deep grip? No, no, no. Deep grip is one kind of guillotine. Shallow grip, that's another kind of guillotine.

That's more of a neck crank, shallow grip. But what he did right there where he leaned back. I have to see that again. Well he leaned back. They'll show it in the replay. He leaned straight back, right? Yeah, he leaned back. He didn't have an angle either. No, and he had an arm in. Dude, there's so many guillotines. There's so many. But statistically, when you got an arm in, usually the right technique is to go up high on the neck

and put weight on the neck. And crush him. And crush the neck. Bend him. Bend him inwards. More of an angle, right? Angle and bend him into himself. Yeah.

Doing leg curls, smashing. Whereas he just pulled back like a regular guillotine, but obviously he put the dude to sleep. Let's see it. Here, let's see it. Jeez, that was crazy. Yeah. So Alves tags him with the right hand.

Oh, welcome to Queer Street, son. Population, you. All right, so here, look how he's doing this. He's got it, and look how he's just- No, that's a good regular. He's doing leg curls, and he's bending. He's bending the- Yeah.

It's just a regular arm and guillotine done right. Bending him inside of himself. He's doing leg curls. He's not pulling. He's actually bending down yeah, it's just a regular arm and guillotine done right. Bending him inside of himself. He's doing leg curls. He's not pulling. He's actually bending down and into him. Watch. Look. He's leaning to his right and then bending that thing in.

He's going into him. That on his neck, man. That doesn't look good on his neck at all. That's a perfect guillotine. It's perfect. Oh, that looks terrible. What he's doing with an angle is what you would do if you were head on by going up high on the neck.

It all depends on what his grip was doing, too. Some people like to go ball and socket, something like the pretzel grip. It all depends what he's doing underneath. Yeah, isn't that interesting how some guys just have that fucking guillotine? Like, when you saw Joseph Benavidez get that mounted guillotine on Tim Elliott, there's some dudes that they just get that arm in there, and it doesn't matter what happens next. One way or another, they're going to find a way

to finish that bitch off. That looks like Duncan. Duncan out of the fucking mountains. That is Duncan. On a Harley. Duncan could have a Harley if he lived in North Carolina. If he went back to Asheville where he's from, dude, you ever been to the most more beautiful place

than Asheville, North Carolina? No. You ever been there? No. Dude. Really? We did Raleigh. Raleigh's nice.

Raleigh's beautiful. But after we did Raleigh, we would take a drive into the mountains to Asheville. It's like a utopian community in the middle of the North Carolina mountains. It's the craziest shit of all time. Why? What do you mean? I have a friend who lives up there and was telling me how amazing it was, but I couldn't believe it until I got there.

Beautiful place, super intelligent people. It's a college town. Walking the streets, people just friendly, restaurants, bars. Asheville. Low population. Say Asheville. Asheville, North Carolina. Asheville, North Carolina.

Low population. This is how crazy that town is. I'm all right with that. There's so many trippers in that town that the farmers started putting antifungal properties in the cow's food to make sure that they didn't grow mushrooms on them because it's all rainy up there and like psilocybin mushrooms naturally grow on cow patties out there. Wow. And so these kids are all tweaked on mushrooms like all the time. Asheville, North Carolina.

Yeah. So much so that farmers started spending their own fucking money to make sure that they didn't have psychedelic mushrooms growing on their cow shit. Did you know how many times they had to call the paramedics to get these kids passed out in their barns? Hugging cows? I was so high on mushrooms. I climbed Big Whiskey Mountain.

They got rabbits, they got kids. I climbed Big Whiskey Mountain on mushrooms in Wyoming. I was hugging a rock. I had a long conversation with a rock. My buddy turns around and looks at me we're hot it's the true story he turns around and look and he i have no clothes on just my sneakers and he goes where your clothes i go i don't know we couldn't find my clothes i came back down i had to ask patty about this i had a blue mouth meaning blueberries and i was completely naked we never found my this alvis is a bad motherfucker man

attacked attacked yeah he's super bummed out. He got put to sleep. He's seen guys lose. Kid's got some traps on him. Yeah, it's so different for you, isn't it? And the difference between a guy like these random dudes who talk shit on the internet and the impact that has on a guy like you who puts his whole fucking life on the line.

What does that feel like when you lose a fight and then you go on Twitter and see just a bunch of people fucking with you, man. Yeah, it's not too bad anymore. I think from doing the podcast, stuff like that, people get a sense of my personality. They used to think I was just like this dick, like cocky dick, you know? Yeah.

But doing podcasts and doing more interviews and getting out there, I get to show a little bit of personality. But, man, when I lost to, I think, Rothwell one time, when I lost to Rothwell, my Twitter was so negative. It was insane. And then before I was going to fight LeVar Johnson, huge fight in my career, right? You lose that one, you know, who knows what happened. Right, right, right. Probably Bellator playing grab ass getting $500.

So, you know, before that one, I stayed off social media. I'd make a post, but I wouldn't read anything. Make a post, don't read anything. That's good. That's smart. And then even before the Mitrione fight, it started to get a little bad. The week of the fight, I don't look at social media at all. I make a post, and I don't look at it.

That's smart. That's very smart. But now, man. There's always douchebags out there. There is, but I got to be honest. Now, it's like I got a lot of support. It's really cool, man. Well, when you do a podcast, people get to know who the fuck you really are.

It's so easy to write you off. You're confident. You're big. You're good looking. Probably got a big hog. They see you and they go, fuck that guy. I want him to suck. I want him to be an asshole. There's a lot of dudes that I read on the underground. I don't know if you go on the underground, but a lot of dudes

love you now because of your podcast and because of the podcast you guys did with us. The last one you did, they said we really got to see who he is. They were like, you guys have great chemistry. A lot of people don't realize how funny Brennan is. Brennan had you laughing harder than I've ever seen you laugh. Yeah, but I wish he could tell all the stories. Can't tell the stories.

Can't do it publicly. I'll tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, We're going to go get some steak after this podcast You're going to miss the best podcast I got some new shit for you too Do I ever Joe Do I ever We're going to eat some meat You guys are the only ones I can tell the stories to

It's okay What nationality are you He's half black Your dad's white and your mom is ethnic. No, so my mom was born raised in England They somehow see white shit. Yeah straight white chick and what's your dad and my dad's German Italian French? His dad couldn't look more Native American by the way couldn't look more Native America There's a lot of Italians that are basically monkeys. Yeah, what it is. Shop got some of that Italian monkey. So you're just like

some big Italian dude. Yeah, I guess. Were you from the East Coast? Oh, no. Denver. Denver. Denver. God damn.

Alves is a beast. And so, what was your, you played pro football? Look at this. Yeah, college and pro. Boom. What team? Jesus.

I played four years at University of Colorado and then short stint with Buffalo Bills. They keep showing this one right hand over and over again. Really? Check you out. Oh, shit.

Tony Gonzalez. You didn't know this? Tony Gonzalez up in this bitch. Where'd you? Aaron Hernandez. Boy, you working on the... Couldn't look more like... Bring up our Aaron Hernandez and take a look at...

I get all the... Bro, please bring him up right now. You know Pete Holohan is? Uh-uh. Oh, okay. That's a white... Please bring him up right now. You know who Pete Holohan is? Uh-uh. Oh, okay. That's a white... Bro, I was in Ralph's and these guys behind me

are like... I can hear them on the cell phone. Two black guys like, no, I'm looking at this motherfucker right now. No, he posted bail, son. I'm looking at him right now. And I'm like...

I turn around like, it's Aaron fucking Hernandez. I'm like, bro, it's not him. You look so much like him. Bring him up. Bring him up. And then when I jumped in my Prius, they're like, like, bro, it's not him. You look so much like him. Bring him up. Bring him up. And then when I jumped in my Prius, they're like, oh, no, that ain't him. He looks like a big Denny Prokopos.

My first black belt, Denny Prokopos looks exactly like Brendan Shaw. By the way, look at Aaron Hernandez. Look at this. Wait, hold on. That's a good-looking murderer, though. Let's be honest. Put Denny up there. Find Denny.

He looks more like a big Denny. Denny's Greek. You have a Greek look. though, let's be honest. Put Denny up there. Find Denny. He looks more like a big Denny. Denny's Greek. You have a Greek look. You could be a Greek statue. But there are other pictures where he looks a lot more like Aaron Hernandez. No, he doesn't look like Aaron Hernandez. I'm sorry, son. You know what?

I get it all the time. No, no, he does, Eddie. That's just a bad image. Let's go images on Denny. Let's go images. Come on. Not really. Look at that.

A little bit. Come on. Oh, dude, I rolled with him in San Francisco like a month ago. You don't think he looked like him? I told him to stay away from big guys. Yeah, he rolled with me. Motherfuckers got a back problem. I told him to stay away from big guys.

No, he was dope. No, he's great. He was so much fun to roll with. Yeah, no, he's awesome. All right, we'll go back to Aaron Hernandez. Yeah, and he does the 10th plant in San Francisco, right? Yep. That's where he runs?

Yeah. He came down to Empowers with that Tariq. Let's get some pictures of... Oh, hey. Hey, hey, hey. There he is. Brennan Chubb. A little bit.

He's got that look. Not a little bit. A lot. A lot. Good looking dude. Same hairline. Good looking dude. Same eyes.

You guys could definitely be related. How crazy is it? This dude is in the NFL and shot allegedly three people. Three people. He's 24. He's 24. He's 24. How did he shoot people? He shot two people.

Self-defense? Gang-related shit. What, he's in the pros and he's in the gang? One of the best tight ends. On the Patriots. On one of the best teams. Signed a $42 million deal. Did he grow up in LA?

No, he grew up in Austin, right? Connecticut, yeah. Connecticut? There he grow up in LA? No, he grew up in Boston, right? Connecticut, yeah. Connecticut? There's Mexican gangs in Connecticut? Reportedly having a, oh, that's not Mexican. It's Puerto Rican. Having a tough time paying his defense team. He's running out of money, man.

They don't give a fuck. They're sucking you dry, kid. Yeah, they don't care. They don't give a fuck. How much money does he have? I heard he has a big old hog, by the way. A big old hog. I bet.

Dang. What are you thinking, though? Don't you wish you could talk to that kid? $24 million in the bank. I mean, probably was going to be one of the best tight ends ever in the NFL. Freak, man. Freak athlete. Look at this.

Look at this. Ridiculous. Leroy Horde got busted selling weed. He was running back for the Cleveland Browns. Look at that. A portion of his $12.5 million bonus was supposed to be guaranteed to Hernandez when he signed a contract extension in 2012.

He's in dispute, son. And his $1.3 million home is the subject of a restraining order that prevents him from selling it or using it for anything other than paying a future judgment in a civil lawsuit filed by the family of one of the men that he's accused of killing. This dude was accused of killing three fucking people.

How? Bullets. Like, how did it go down? Is that a club? I don't know. He was drunk? I don't know. The one he just got indicted on, he pulled up.

They're saying he pulled up in an SUV, just shot up the SUV, killed two dudes. And this is before he shot this other dude. They only found out that he did it after he got busted for killing this other dude. And they're saying he killed the other dude because that dude knew stuff about another murder he did. And so then all these other witnesses are done. It's like you kill one person, you're like, well, you know, something. That's a movie. You kill two more people, you're a bad guy.

Bad murder, good football player, handsome dude. Let's call it like we see it, gentlemen. Let's call it like we see it. Let's call it like we see it. Good football player, handsome dude. And's call it like we see it, gentlemen. Let's call it like we see it. Let's call it like we see it. Bad murderer, good football player, handsome dude. And he's only 24. That's what's crazy. You know, when you take a dude who's a big super athlete

and he's living in some sort of a bad situation and he's just fucking just a huge, just aggressive, savage dude, and that's why he's so goddamn good at football, and then you expect him to keep his shit together because he got an NFL contract. Oh, here's $25 million. Oh, you're from the hood and you're bringing all your entrants with you? That's going to work out great. Oh, geez, I wonder what happened.

Starting from the bottom, now we're here. Starting from the bottom, now the whole team here. And they also want to prove that they're still legit. They're always trying to prove like they're still tough like oh, I'm not out the hood They're still hood. Maybe he wanted out and he's trying to get out but he had done so much shit that there was still some But he probably didn't want to do it, you know what I'm blowing up now I got a fucking kill this dude He's gonna fucking ruin all this shit. He probably killed him to just Save his career.

He shot one dude and he got high. That's what you say. I believe him. I don't know why, but I do. I don't know why, but I do. I believe him. I've got a feeling. Aaron got soft, dog. He got soft. You've changed, son. People tell me that. You've changed.

No shit, I've changed. Yeah, hell yeah, I've changed. Oh, since 10th grade? shit, I've changed. Yeah. Yeah, hell yeah, I've changed. Oh, since 10th grade? Oh, really? Yeah, I've changed. I'm rich as shit and I fight in the UFC. Yeah, I've changed 100%. You're rich as shit? I'm doing all right.

Really? I like the old Brendan. Really? Damn, I want to hear that. Do you have like an outside business? I know you ain't rich for no UFC. What are you talking about? Are you selling houses or some shit?

He's got sponsors. You don't understand how much a heavyweight makes, Eddie Bravo. You know what? I want to believe it. Aldo was complaining about that recently.

I thought everyone was complaining about it. Aldo, he was complaining about the pay, the difference in pay between the heavyweights and the lighter weight. Well, people,

I mean, heavyweights run the world. What do you get, like 50 a fight to show? What's up? 50 a fight to show? Eddie, you can't ask questions like that. It's posted on the underground.

This is posted on the underground. Not my new contract, son. What was your last contract? The old one I was on Ultimate Fighter. Hey, he owns... Fucking fight Mirko Krokop for 10 and 10 like this. Okay, so you didn't make that much money before, but now you're making money. Eddie, we got here by...

Okay, sponsor. We got here in his helicopter. That's all you need. Meta farm? They got here on the wings of a Pegasus. Horseback. You can't ask his actual numbers, though, on the wings of a Pegasus. Horseback. You can't ask his actual numbers, though, on the podcast. I refuse.

Really? I refuse to allow it. I will not allow it. Because you're asking him a question that he might not want to answer, and you're saying it live. And if you do that, you're not giving him a chance to say, I don't like to talk about that shit. How much does UFC pay you?

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Damn, you're quick as fuck. Damn. That was a serious question. Look at Gilbert Melendez doing a little commentary. Yeah, Gilbert's doing it. Kenny Florian. Kenny is an awesome commentator.

Damn, Kenny's hair's all jacked up. Looks like someone gave him a noogie before he got on there. He did a great job on my fight. He's in the 1950s. I mean, my grapple. Kenny, by the way, is a cloth horse. He did do a great job at Metamoros. He was doing good. He did great. Kenny wears at Metamoros. He was doing good.

Kenny wears a beautiful gown. Your boy Glover could use a couple more. No, Glover did good, too, although he did fuck up a few times. Hold. Hold. He could use a couple more. Hold. What do you mean?

Well, I just mean he could use it. Like, pause. Like, pause. Hold. You talk too much? No, no, no. He needs a couple more reps. He needs a couple more reps.

Yeah. Dude, commentating is tough. It's super tough. Everyone thinks they can commentate because they can talk shit while they watch the UFC, you know, when they're drunk and they're comfortable. When the camera's in front of you. Insanely tough. Can you be yourself when the pressure's on?

Shit, anybody can catch a goddamn football. High school wide receivers have great hands, but the difference between a high school football player and a pro football player, can you hold onto that ball when there's pressure?, but the difference between a high school football player and a pro football player, can you hold onto that ball when there's pressure? That's the difference. Can you do it under pressure? You know what the other thing that might have hurt him a little bit is he's an ex-Kenny Florin who does it for a profession. Kenny was great.

Yes. Kenny was cool. And there was a couple things that Jeff had wrong. He thought I was setting him up for a triangle the whole time. Like in the beginning, I'm never thinking about a triangle, so he kind of fucked up there but overall i thought jeff did a great job for his first show ever doing color damn yeah he just didn't understand your game totally yeah and he was thinking about his own moves he was honest when i rolled for the vaporizer he says i'd like to consider myself an expert in jujitsu and i'm confused right now kenny

he said that he goes what is going on here? People were doing tutorials of the vaporizer the next day and the next week wrong. They had no idea what they were doing. They thought... You're talking about metamorphosis? Yes, at the very end. The move at the very end.

Honestly, I don't know. I'm not qualified, but I have to say you were doing stuff and Joe was screaming because he saw you were getting positioned, but I had no idea that you had positioned before you did it. Joe knew what I was doing the whole time. Yeah, I knew. I was going bananas. As soon as Eddie Bravo gets that lockdown, everybody went crazy.

They went crazy when you went from quarter guard to lockdown. That is crazy. They got crazy when Hoyler got the underhook. All the Gracies go, yeah! Because for six minutes, he was fighting for the underhook. He finally gets it, and they fucking make noise for the underhook. That's so educated. That's crazy.

So educated. And by the way, for the record, from my vantage point, he never even was in the game with you. And all due respect, of course, to Hoyler, but did you get acknowledged for that from the Gracie camp, or how did that work? You didn't pay attention to that. I'll answer it because it's difficult for him to answer. It was

embarrassing. Their portrayal of the actual events it was embarrassing. It was like a cover up. A government cover up. Embarrassed for them. For all of them that commented. Not one of them did an accurate assessment of a post fight until they experienced criticism.

When they experienced criticism, then people started giving them credit for it. So they were being loyal to their brothers. No, no, no, no, no. They were being ridiculous and biased, and it was sad. As someone who's a huge fan of the Gracies and a huge fan of jiu-jitsu and massively in debt, my own personal life for what their families accomplished, I am in debt to all the gracies ilio gracie without a doubt his his accomplishments and his his art changed my life

because it changed eddie's life eddie's life changed my life john jock machado's life who changed eddie's life i mean all of us are directly chained back to ilio's work that said their their depiction of that fight was an embarrassment. It was an embarrassment to the greatest martial arts family of all time. They weren't accurate in their assessment of what happened. What happened was Hoyler didn't know what to do with Eddie's game.

He got wrapped up. He got swept on multiple occasions and he got threatened twice and he got his knee fucked up. His knee popped in a crazy position. Most people on the planet would have tapped to that. Most people. Hoyler decided not to tap to it, and they also agreed to ridiculous rules.

They never addressed the fact that the only reason why he was able to survive was he was allowed to grab Eddie's clothes, but Eddie wasn't allowed to grab his clothes. They were the most ridiculous rules. Those rules were an embarrassment. I was embarrassed by those rules because you tried to change it. They threatened you. They were like, no, no, no, you have to wear the pants.

If you don't wear the pants, we're pulling out. The deal was Eddie wears the pants, and he can grab Eddie's pants, but Eddie can't grab his shorts. It's ridiculous. That doesn't make any sense. It's someone who's fighting scared. So Eddie agreed to that anyway goes in there still dominates the fight and the one thing that saved hoyler's i mean hoyler's leg

was in a terrible position but it wasn't in the worst position the worst position is one step later and if eddie if that guy wasn't able to grab eddie's clothes and he wasn't able to hold on for dear life on eddie's the collar of his pants, Eddie would have switched. And if he switched to putting his foot on his other foot, if you went to that, the dark position, after that, there's the vaporizer. Yeah. And then there's that one step where you take the vaporizer to DEFCON 10. Yeah.

It's ugly. Your leg is getting ripped apart. Your leg's getting ripped apart. And I saw his knee. I was like, that knee is, that doesn't look natural. But that's only 7 out of 10, bro. That's 7 out of 10. The next three steps are the ugliest shit you've ever seen in your life.

And you see guys scream in agony. God, that's bad. It's horrible. God, I hate that. That is so scary. But they didn't address any of that. When they put it on their Instagram, their Instagram was all about how great Hoyler looked. And all about Hoyler getting through two submission attempts and smiling.

Like, what are you talking about? How about the breakdown? The end of it, Gracie, in all caps and exclamation points. Preposterous. Right. So I was embarrassed by it because I think that we all have an obligation to be as honest and as open as possible when we're assessing our friends, our loved ones, our brothers and sisters' performances. There's this weird thing that people do when they start getting biased and they start disregarding the accomplishments of others.

If the fight was completely reversed, I would absolutely say, man, Hoyler Gracie dominated Eddie Bravo. It was crazy. He just knew how to sweep them. He got them into bad positions. He fucked up Eddie's leg. I mean, brave of Eddie that he didn't tap. But, man, I was super impressed with Hoyler. Hey, I don't know if they're going to do it again. Maybe Eddie would like to reconsider, knowing that Hoyler's game is so tricky. If they were totally opposite.

But they weren't opposite. So when I look at it, I have to look at it. Am I biased? Absolutely. You know, look, I love the Gracies, but Eddie's one of my best friends on the planet. You're probably the top two human beings that I love more.

I love you, buddy, but I barely know you. These are my two best friends. You didn't need to put in a disclaimer like that. I just gotta tell you. Well, now it's awkward. These are my two best friends of all time, so I'm sure I'm biased, but even being biased, objectively looking at it, I get sad because I think that what they did was an embarrassment. That's what I think. All I want to know is where the fuck are the pickles, bro?

I know. I think we ate them all. We're going to call up Grillo's Pickles. I personally loved it. I loved how you started that match. I think it was great. Where one hand goes on the mat, you slap the mat, and the other hand goes up, and you start waving. I loved that beginning. That was a wrestling move, and I never mat. Oh, yeah. You slap the mat, and the other hand goes up, and you start waving. I love that beginning.

That was a wrestling move, and I never wrestle. It was awesome. And I thought, for sure, he's going to think I'm going to pull guard. But let me give a wrestling look for a second. It was great. To freak him out, and then I'll pull guard. I didn't even know you were doing it. It was so great.

Bam! It's hard. It's hard when people get emotionally attached to results. It's hard when people get emotionally attached to a fight It's hard when people get emotionally attached to a fight. You made a great case. Guess who does that? This guy. Every fight, this guy.

I know you do. Of course everybody does. I like everybody. That was a great assessment. I like everybody. That was a great assessment. Well, that's what it is. I mean, even all of them.

Even Henner, who I love. His take on it was that you didn't pass the Ileo challenge or the Ileo test. Filter. That your style would be ineffective in a street fight, which is unfortunately ignorant. Because if they knew that if punches were involved, your style works better. Your style's more effective when the guy's trying to punch. Because if a guy on top is trying to punch, he's giving up underhooks, he's giving up overhooks, he's giving up a lot of shit when you start throwing your arms around.

The only reason I'm in quarter guard is because there's not punching. Exactly. If there was punching, I would get in deeper right away. But since you could use your hands on top 100% to keep me away and rape choke me and do all the stuff that people do, it's because you're not punching. Have you ever fought MMA, Eddie? Never. Would you ever? Not now. Tell the story. Tell the story about how they were trying to set you

up. Tell that story because that's a crazy story. I've told that story before. You don't even have to say the name of the organization. You don't have to say the name of the organization. You don't even have to say the name. I'll set it up so you don't have to know the name of the fighter or the organization. A prominent Japanese organization that may or may not still be in business came up to Eddie in Los Angeles.

And they wanted to talk to him about having an MMA. There's no wine in there. Is there some? You guys like that wine, though. They wanted to talk to him about having a UFC fight. No, no, no. Not a UFC they told him... No, no, no. Not a UFC. MMA fight. No, no, no. It wasn't MMA. It was a grappling match.

No, no, no, no, no, no. No, it was. But it was the... Oh, that's the one. Originally. Originally, it was a grappling match. That's the only reason I sat down and talked to them. Because I wasn't trying to do MMA, but they go, oh, we want to get you to fight a super fight grappling match. We're going to mix it into our MMA show.

And I met them at the Beverly Wilshire, the raddest hotel in LA. I met them there in the lobby. And a representative of this organization. And I said, okay, I'll do it. And they go, well, how about if we made it a MMA fight? So I said, well, I don if we made it a MMA fight? So I said, well, I don't do MMA. No.

But we'll make it so that you win. And then the guy who brought me there, I looked over at the guy who brought me, hooked it all up. I looked at him and I said, what the fuck is going on here? What do you mean? What do you say to that? What can you possibly say? What if we make it so that you win? Because there's a lot of betting on you. That sounds like they're setting you up for betting.

No, no, no, no. They're setting you up to go there. You think you're going to win, and then you get in there, and the guy beats the fuck out of you. I would have never done it. They trick you. I would have never done it. Because you're dishonorable anyway. Why should they do that for you?

This is Japanese culture. It's very different than American culture. If they set you up and you go over there, you ain't suing. You're not saying, hey, we had an agreement to a fixed fight. Was this going to be in Japan? This was the Yakuza. Real quick, I'm excited for this fight. Heavyweights, tough finale, heavyweights.

Vitor Miranda and Antonio Carlos Jr. His nickname. Antonio only has four fights. Very similar to me with only four fights on the Ultimate Fighter finale. Interesting. Next Luther is his nickname. What happened in the finale?

Got to do better than that. Might have to do better than that. Cut him some slack, bro. I forget, man. It's hard to keep up. I lost in the finale to Roy Nelson. Oh, okay. I only had four fights.

Roy had, whatever, 25 for World Champ. But the thing that helped me, and I've never told you this, Joe, the thing that helped me, I was in a dark place after i've never lost any right a fight i lost that fight and i watched the replay back and uh during my walkout uh joe on the broadcast goes listen brendan has a very tall order roy nelson is a hell of a fighter he could jump in division right now and beat anyone brendan only has four fights No matter what happens in this fight, Brendan's going to go on and have a great career. Honestly, man, that helped me out so much.

Wow, that's awesome, dude. I'm so glad that helped. That was totally true. There's a thing about those ultimate fighter situations like that where you get a guy who's got mad, mad fucking fights behind him. And Roy, you know, Roy was real good and wasn't known for, it was weird.

The show made him known for being a knockout puncher. Yeah, but before that, he fought Andre Orlovsky before he came to the house. He got robbed in that Orlovsky fight. That was when they were doing that bullshit, that Elite XC. Yeah. They would stand you up. You'd be like on the ground for 15 minutes. He was inside control, working on a Kimura.

He had a locked up Kimura. Yep. Double wrist lock. However, either way you paint it, Orlovsky T a Kimura. He had a locked up Kimura. Yep, double wrist lock. However, either way you paint it, Orlovsky TKO'd him. He did. Only got to really do it, too. Only got to ever do it. But I think that he was more uncomfortable about taking shots back then, too.

Ouch. That's really interesting. But it's interesting if you think about that, the fact that he got TKO'd by Orlovsky, and since then he's been invulnerable to shots. I agree. But look at Verdum. Verdum hit him with everything but the goddamn kitchen sink. Not really a heavy hitter, though, is he?

But he need the fucking shit out of his face, man. It's true. And he's taken bombs from you name it. Took bombs from Crow Cop. He took bombs from everybody. Brendan Schaub. How about fucking Junior Dos Santos? Yeah, you did.

Dos Santos. Dos Santos. I'll tell you what. They just announced Roy Marcant. Yes. But back to the Ultimate Fighter finale, there's a lot of fights. Like, most commissions went sanctioned in that fight. A guy with four and a guy with 30.

They're going to be like, no, we're good. Exactly. But because it's the show. I didn't know that. I didn't know that commissions took those things into account. How dare you do commentary on a fight ever if you don't know that. I didn't know that commissions took those things into account. How dare you do commentary on a fight ever if you don't know that. I'm learning, man. This is my education.

Oh, don't do it. Don't do it in boxing. By the way. Nice mix-up. By the way. They'll do it in boxing if a guy has an extensive amateur background. If a guy is like a world champion amateur boxer and, you know, he's fighting in Cuba and then all of a sudden he's in America

and they won him the challenge for the title in his third fight. That's not unheard of. That Cuban program is amazing. Well, Russian as well. There's a Russian guy recently challenged for a title, and he'd only been boxing professionally for a very short period of time. Bro, I went from fighting Billy McGee in Denver, where he was scared. I was beating him already at the weigh-ins,

to fighting Roy Nelson in Las Vegas. I was like, what the fuck? That is baptism by fire. Baptism by fire. Did you know? Roy has got deceptive timing. You knew about him when you went in there. I thought 100% I was going to knock him out in the first round.

I was very naive. Wow. Roy has got deceptive timing. You know what? I wouldn't change it for anything, though, man. When he dropped that bomb on Noguera, that was one of the saddest knockouts of all time. Yeah, he went stiff. Dude, that was scary.

Hunt Roy is a sick fight. It's a sick fight. But when Roy knocked out Noguera, it was a career ender. It was like, whoa, that was a sign that the fucking wheels have come off the wagon. Yeah, yeah. This is over. He measured that, Chad. I thought he killed Congo.

He just measured it, wrote it, and boom. I thought he killed. When he hit Congo, I was like, oh, no. Oh, my God, you killed Congo. You know what's crazy? He didn't even start striking. Oh, my God, you killed Kenny? Oh, my God, you killed Congo. He just measured it, wrote it, and boom. I thought he killed. When he hit Congo, I was like, oh, no. Oh, my God, you killed Congo. You know what's crazy? He didn't even start striking. Oh, my God, you killed Kenny? Oh, my God, you killed Congo.

He didn't even start striking until 2009. Yeah, Roy's a special, special animal. That's crazy. By the way. You know what? He hit me. People think he hit me in the jaw. Oh, shit, we got a weak-ass jaw.

Grant, he's 265 pounds. Shit happens when you hit him in the face. It's weird. Your brain shuts off. However, he hit me behind the ear, happens when you hit him in the face. It's weird. Your brain shuts off. However, he hit me behind the ear, directly behind the ear. Right behind the ear. He threw a double jab. I slipped the first one, and my head was out of position.

Right hand right behind the ear. Oh, God. Before that, though, I was putting on a clinic. Fight me now. What's up, son? Don't have four fights anymore. What's up, son? You can call him now.

You wanted to. Mark Hunt. You know, I don't care. I don't. I'd rather fight other people. But if it were to happen, yeah, it'd You want it, too. You know, I don't care. I don't. I'd rather fight other people. But if it were to happen, yeah, it'd be a totally different story. You know, Eddie, what we were saying about how the Gracies were saying what you did didn't pass the ilio filter. What was fucked up about that is what we were talking about earlier about when Heron fought Andre Galvao.

And he had that match with Andre Galvao. And just he was showing his defense off. He let him pass his guard. Let him defense off. Yeah, he let him pass his guard and... Let him mount him. Yeah, he let him mount. Yeah, that's... You gotta respect that. That's some gangster shit. What is gangster shit? Let Galvao get them out. But not with that criticism, though.

The criticism that he used on him. You know what? I'll be honest. Obviously, I'm team right-hander and he and I are like my brother's man. But I haven't seen any of this stuff. I watched the match. I don't see any of that stuff. Nothing. I know they like you. They've never talked bad to me about you. It's not a matter of

talking bad. You know what? I don't see any of it. That's why people are like, oh, Shob's being quiet because he's Team Gracie. I'm not knowledgeable on it. I don't know. I haven't seen any of it. I watched Metamorris. I was like, damn, that was dope for jiu-jitsu. It was the most talked about jiu-jitsu match since Brendan Shob's cyborg. Not. Pause. Pause. Pause.

You may have a point there. You may have a point there. A little bit. A little bit. We talked about it after the fact. Give it up, Doug. Give it up. After the fact, it was very talked about. Not that I'm anti-Metamoros. I'm 100% pro. I'll promote that show to the day it stops.

I love it. Who would you like? Brian Callen. Jesus love it. I love that they're doing it. Brian Callum, Jesus fucking Christ. He can't go five minutes without talking. He freaks out. I love that they're doing it. I love that they're doing it, but I think that you gotta be really careful with your assessments

of a situation. If the UFC did that, say if the UFC talked about TJ Dillashaw and Hennon Burrow and painted it all about Hennon Burrow being tough and amazing, how he got through that fight, and it was incredible. Oh, you're saying after the fact. If they did it. Because there was a little bit of that before a fight.

Well, that was before the fight. No one thought that was going to happen the way, I mean, I guess maybe TJ did, but I didn't think it was going to happen that way. I don't know if TJ did. I don't know if TJ did. I thought it was going to be a really tough fight. I thought TJ has chances to win because he's got great endurance. If he could take it into the third, fourth, and fifth round

and push a tremendous pace. I would say this is matchups. When you get in the top ten, it's about matchups. Number nine could be a horrible match for number one in the expected. But anyway, if the UFC painted it in an incredibly inaccurate way, imagine after the fact. Very unprofessional. Very unprofessional.

It would be super unprofessional. That's exactly what I felt. If they talked about the TJ Dillashaw, Hennon Burrell fight. And obviously that is a more dominant example. Because TJ just lit Hennon Burrell on fire. It wasn't even a fight. It was amazing. It was the best performance I've ever seen inside the octagon.

I agree. And biggest upset. Because everyone's like, Matt Serra, GSP. Uh-uh. Because this was five rounds of a straight ass-whooping clinic, son. There was nothing. Five rounds. Ass-whooping clinic and then stops him in the fifth with a fucking head kick.

I mean, the shit was off the charts. Nasty. The kid was off the charts. But what Eddie did to Hoyler was Hoyler was never once in a dominant position, never once in a position where he was threatening Eddie. And Eddie, without a doubt, fucked his leg up. So for them to paint this inaccurate picture of it, and then, in their credit, corrected it once they experienced criticism

and actually took the original post down from Instagram. They deleted it from Instagram. Which is essentially admitting that you fucked up. Right? I mean, that's what it is. Did you talk to Hoyler after the fight? At the post-fight conference. Right.

We were cool. Look, they were cool right afterwards. They were cool before. Sure. Here's the deal, man. This is the internet. This is a different world. You can't get by just on your name anymore.

You've got to be cool across the board. You don't get any free passes. You didn't win the lottery. Everything is what it is. And if you pretend it's not what it is and everybody can see that, they think you're a cunt. That's just how it goes today. It's a different world. And, you know, I appreciate the loyalty. Wow, look at this beautiful

mount this fucking dude is playing on. This kid is a beast. 4-0-2. I'll tell you right now, both of these guys, they're both going to have a career in the UFC, whoever wins or loses, obviously. However, neither one of them is fighting at heavyweight. I think one weighed at 214, one weighed at 212 or something like that. 230 and 218.

Miranda on the bottom is 230. That's on his bio on the UFC that might not be accurate. He might be preparing for 205 after this. Eddie, is there a guy, a jiu-jitsu guy, a straight jiu-jitsu guy that you would really like to fight that is a huge challenge to you? Look at that fucking guard pass. That was sick. He was trying to get back. he was trying to get back. He was trying to get back to,

he was trying to hip escape, and the dude passed his guard and got into side control like a wizard. But look at this. Yeah, man. Antonio Carlos Jr. is a bad motherfucker. No, you know what? I think,

I mean, I think that match was super important. I think it was super important for you. I think it was super important for jiu-jitsu. And I think that it showed that jiu-jitsu matches can be super fucking exciting. And I think it opens up the door to a possible future in having some sort of a professional. He's going for a leg lock, sir. Look at this. Ooh, that's dirty.

He's attacking the leg. Look at that base. Professional base. Eddie, would you change the rules of Metamorris, though? As in, is there something they can do to make it, I don't know. Well, submission only, I think, is the way to go. Submission only, for sure. But since Metamorris is in a tournament, single matches,

it should be more winner take all. Or serious difference between show money and submission money. It should be $1,000 to show or $7,000 if you sell.

You have to. It's got to be like that. If you're going to have single matches, the money will create the urgency that for the submission. You have to. You have to. It's got to be like that. If you're going to have single matches, the money will create the urgency that creates the entertainment. Otherwise, you get this weird kind of stalemate that lasts for 20 minutes, man. Sort of. You've got to make it worth it to submit. That's what we're trying to do. My tournament is all about fixing the boringness of jiu-jitsu.

That's what I'm trying to do I'm not trying to make money putting together this tournament money is not a goal at all I'm not I'm losing money on my first tournament we're just trying to put together jiu-jitsu for TV can we it should be on TV already but it's not on Oh, look at that. Triangle. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, so close. Beautiful pass. This Antonio kid is nasty, man. I like this. He hesitated on that cinch. Man, he had that triangle there.

Miranda's a fucking beast too, man. But look at Antonio's. Back to his half guard, sneaking up the back door on him. Is there a guy you'd like to? Look at that. It's crazy. They're stopping him from throwing those elbows. That is so ridiculous.

Why are they stopping him? To the thigh. Why? Because they're illegal. The 12 to 6 elbow is. Why are they stopping him? To the thigh. Why? Because they're illegal. The 12 to 6 elbow is illegal on your thigh. You've got to take an angle. Why? It's so stupid.

Because it's a rule that was... 12 to 6 elbows are illegal anywhere. It was created when they were worried about people killing people way back in the day. Because hitting in the back of the head or something? No, no, no, no. He's hitting the thigh, man. So why? I don't understand that.

No, it's from... I've explained it a million times and you've never paid attention once because you're not a real MMA fan. I'll do it one last time. When Big John McCarthy was first talking to the athletic commissions trying to get the UFC legal,

they wouldn't let the downward elbow in because they saw those karate demonstrations at 2 o'clock in the morning where dudes would break bricks with their elbows. I'm not bullshitting. It's so stupid. It's the dumbest shit ever and it proves that you're not a real MMA fan because you don't know that.

Now that we've established that, don't ever say a guy can hit a guy with a right hand again. This is a dope fight, man. I want to be in the club. Eddie, who do you want? Is there a guy out there, a jiu-jitsu guy that you would love to fight who you think would be a huge challenge to you?

Whoever would generate the biggest payday. Wait, hold on. Okay, so let me give you... I don't hate anybody. I'm not trying to challenge anybody. He's like the Floyd Mayweather of jiu-jitsu. Hold, hold. He's like Floyd Mayweather of jiu-jitsu, son.

Let me throw a name out. Marcelo Garcia. No. I'm not going to call... Listen, listen. Preparing for that match was very stressful. It took me away from my family. All day I'm thinking about training.

It just put my life on hold. It was stressful. I had to do it, and I did it 100%. Trained like a fucking Olympian. And you proved yourself. Yeah, and after that match, I don't want to put any names out there. I'm not going to challenge anybody. I'm going to rest for a while.

When I come back, the only names I'm going to bring up, I'm not going to bring up any names now, are names that are going to generate the most money. The biggest payday. You have nothing to prove. I have nothing to prove. You did it.

Yeah. And if I went against Marcelo Garcia, he would fucking smash me. That would be a don't move He's a really good friend of mine. Okay, Marcelo Garcia is just fucking amazing Yeah, yeah, sorry He said as he was taking him down as he was taking Marcelo Garcia down He said he already had him submitted on a side note. This fight is dope Brian. Would you shut your yapper?

Will you shut your yapper for two seconds about jiu-jitsu? I find it a hard time believing you really want to know the answer to that question. I think you just wanted to talk. Is this the main event? No, this is the co-main event. This is to win the Ultimate Fighter Heavyweight Brazil fight. You've got to not talk over people, man. You're really bad at it.

I am not talking over people. This Antonio Carlos Jr. is a beast, man. I'm super impressed by this kid. Why are you talking about this fight? We're talking about Eddie Bravo, bro. What about Metta Morris? You guys now tune into the fights. You and Joe finally tuning into the fights and scolding me.

You know, one thing I want to make clear before we end. Henzo Gracie, I love you to death. The Gracies are a giant family. There's so many awesome Gracies in there. There's only a couple that, you know, I'm not particularly interested in hanging out with. But there's a lot of Gracies that are awesome. Clark Gracie, Rose Gracie is one of them. Rose Gracie, I'm sorry, Rose.

Rose Gracie is one of the coolest chicks on the planet. Henner Hero. I feel you, dog. There's people in my family that I don't want to talk to. Sure. You know what I'm saying? The Gracies are giant. Henso is one of my favorite people

of all time. And I should be real clear. I love Heron. I love Henner. I love Halleck. I love all those dudes. I do. I think they're awesome.

I just think the way this situation was handled has been done way better. And if they were having a debate with someone, if they had to have a debate with, say, a guy like Jeff Glover, an impartial observer, I guarantee you that Jeff Glover's point of view and their point of view would be vastly different.

I just don't think that they handled it well. Either way, good for jiu-jitsu. We're talking about it. Great for jiu-jitsu. It already happened. Great for jiu-jitsu. You know what I'm saying? Eddie Bravo's the Floyd Wayweather of jiu-jitsu.

Show him the money. All right, Brian? Will you shut your yapper about Jiu-Jitsu Show him the money Alright Brian Will you shut your yapper about Jiu-Jitsu for two seconds If I'm gonna shut down my life again And train like an elite And do swim sprints Or jump in that freezing ass cryo What are swim sprints

You know it's like sprinting in a pool You're just swimming as fast as you can Dude You said what are swim sprints, Brian? That's crazy. Yeah. Hey, sorry. I'm not a professional athlete.

Swimming? Sprint? That's what I figured it was. A week from now, Brian will be on his own podcast talking about how he does swim sprints. You know I will. You know I will, dude. The minute I hear stuff, I go, hmm. Especially if he has a chick on.

I need my sprint. I've got to get my sprint. If he has a chick on, I find it's swim sprints help me the most. You know, when I was training for the Worlds, I guess, whatever, I never wanted a fitting. I guess, whatever. I was just busy with a lot of other stuff, a lot of film projects. A lot of film stuff.

Really close with Marky Mark. It was a time where... Are you really? Are you close with Marky Mark? No, I didn't really do... No, but I like that. I like that. I didn't really do a lot of strength and conditioning. I was just naturally supple.

Believe me, I lied about... Who's really good friends with Leonardo DiCaprio? You had a friend? Mike Young. Okay, that's right. It wasn't you? No, I played pickup basketball with him once. He was wearing a barrette.

Did he dunk on you? Put his nuts in your face? Wait a minute. What? No, I was more athletic than he is. No, you weren't. He was wearing a barrette. Things that dunk on you? Put his nuts in your face? Wait a minute. What? No, I was more athletic than he is. He's wearing a barrette. Things that tie your hair up, very specific. If you're a dude and you have one of those, remember when Hicks and Gracie

had that samurai thing going with the hair tie? That's fine. That's fine. As long as you have rubber bands, but what you can't have, you can't have a barrette. Can't have a barrette. Nope. Can't allow it. Chuck can. Chuck Liddell can if he wanted to. Yeah, he's the only one. You know what? If you're Leonardo DiCaprio, you can do whatever you want.

Yeah. Probably. Yeah. No, you can't. It's 100%. He's got enough money that he really doesn't give a fuck. That's why he drives a Prius, Doug. The girls that wouldn't fuck him because he was wearing a barrette, you don't want those

girls. No. You know? That's right. He was super nice. He's wearing a barrette to keep chicks away. He's like, fuck. Antonio Carlos got the back here.

This is, by the way, the least fight-heavy fight companion podcast of all time. Yeah. I want to apologize for these guys. I've been watching the fights. I want to apologize for Brian for not shutting up about. Sorry, I'm a jujitsu freak, bro. Sorry. He's a freak, bro.

He's going to train eventually. I live. I live for jujitsu. One of these days, if's a freak, bro. He's going to train eventually. I live for jiu-jitsu. One of these days, if he could just get a place to move closer to his house. Bro, he has an open invitation to train with Eddie Bravo. No, it's too far away. Henner and Hiron Gracie has never been to either gym. Guys, it's a long drive.

Too far away. Too far away. What's the best, as far as the biggest, coolest jiu-jitsu gym? Is it Gracie in Torrance? It's amazing, right? So many students for me to train with. Is that the biggest place you've ever been to? Because I've seen it online.

They have extra rooms and shit. Yeah, a bunch of private rooms. There's a big old mat. The mat space, it's like a custom-made jammy, right? Where they have a tarp over some mats that are underneath it. It's green. Does that mat get slippery? It does.

When you get sweaty, it gets very slippery. Because it's not as good as a tatami. Those flat ones are solid and dense. Those are the best, right? Yeah, they have their reasons for it, though. I brought up to Henner one time. He told me, I forget the reason. If you can pass when it's slippery, you need more balance.

Yeah, especially when you're sweaty, it's super slippery. Yeah, you got to get used to that. So is it better? It's better to be on a slippery surface for your technique? I don't know. Does that make sense to you? Right? If you can pass on ice, that's a bad pass.

If you can pass on ice. Can you imagine if you could pass on ice? No, it totally makes sense. The one thing, though, that sucks a fat bag of dicks for is if you're doing any kind of striking training. Or wrestling. Oh, yeah. Either one of those. You're going to get ripped up ACLs.

Your knees are going to go out from under you. Yeah, you can't get your foot in a good position. If you don't have traction, you can't choose where your feet go when you're scrambling. But people tear out their knees because of traction. Especially back in the day in football with artificial turf. With the AstroTurf. What are we doing? Whose idea was that?

That was cement that was painted green. Then I got to play on it and get tackled on it? Did you play on it? Oh, yeah. My high school football field was AstroTurf. Way to go. But it gives you an unrealistic environment, too. Well, they can't grow grass in Denver.

Oh, yes, they can. They can? Oh, yeah. With new technology. Nice grass. They got special seeds. We had good seasons there. It's freaking green as shit. Everything's green. You just have to heat the ground up a little bit. They got special seeds. We had good seasons there. It's freaking green as shit.

Everything's green. You just have to heat the ground up a little bit. It's too hard. When they throw up AstroTurf, it's just not fucking worth it. It only grows two months a year.

It's just cheaper, too. You got to think high schools are like, we don't have to pay anyone to take care of this maintenance. How often do they do that now? Is it still AstroTurf? What's the latest now?

It's different. It's a combo. Well, now it's like a fake grass. It has the feel of a grass. It has these little rubber pellets in it. Like a lot of football fields are that now. That's the latest shit?

That's the latest shit. It's fake rubber grass? No, it's soft. Yeah, it's rubber grass. Fake rubber grass? With these rubber pellets in it. I've never heard of it before. I'm going to Google it.

Does it rip apart when you run on it with cleats? No. Like when you take off your cleats, you have these little black balls of rubber in it. But it's soft like grass. Eco-friendly turf, is that what it is? Sure. Look at that. Why not?

Back to the shit. Wow, look at this shit. It looks fucking really shit, man. There you go. That's crazy, dude. I have it in my garage. That looks real as shit. That's weird.

It's amazing. It's pretty cool. That's crazy, man. How does it feel, though. It's amazing. It's pretty cool. That's crazy, man. But how does it feel, though? It feels great. It could be plasticky. No, it feels real, man. It's made of lambskin.

Feels good. Another lambskin. It feels natural. It's made of the same thing as a lambskin condom. It's called field turf. Field turf. There you go. Yeah, here it is.

That would be the ultimate. If it was made from lambskin, then grass would tear off like natural grass. Mm-hmm. Word. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, this is what it's called, field turf. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

That's badass, man. Field turf, huh? This Antonio Carlos Jr. definitely won. That kid has a bright future. He's a badass. Anyways, back to actual turf. In the NFL, how many stadiums off the top of your head do you think have this shit? I would say...

Isn't there a hybrid? There's some that's kind of like that, but there's real grass growing, and they've got some crazy hydroponic system, super high-tech, where they're growing grass without the sunlight. Look at that shit, man. It's more predominant in colleges. I'd say in the NFL, not even half. Not even that shit, man. It's more predominant in colleges. I'd say in the NFL, I mean, not even half.

Not even half of them are. I want to know what the latest is in the NFL with that shit. Field turf revolution. I'm getting that stuff for my garden. Why would you do that? That's super lame. When you could actually have grass. Nope. I don't want it. I want it to look

green and I don't want to deal with bugs. Yeah, because we live in California. There's a lot of bugs here. Whatever. You fucking weirdo. I don't want it. I want it to look green, and I don't want to deal with bugs. Yeah, because we live in California. There's a lot of bugs here. Whatever. You guys all into nature. On a regular day, you might find five or six bugs. Whatever. I'm not using water.

In Marindale, I've never seen a bug. Didn't you? I've got to be honest. I've never seen a bug. Weren't you in the jungle at one point in your life? Yes, I was. You had, like, in Asia, right? Yeah, I was in Indonesia.

And how did you deal with bugs? You heard them coming from miles away. Well, it's as loud as Grand Central Station, the jungle. There are bugs that are so crazy. First of all, you have to worry about the soldier ants. So when you slept,

you had to sleep on... No. You had to worry about soldier ants that would come in and when they were hunting, they'd eat everything in their path. And for whatever reason, when they climb on you, they bite you in unison, like it's a signal or something. You go into shock, and then you get eaten.

So people get eaten by ants in the jungle all the time? Yes, so what you want to do is when you sleep, you want to make sure because they'll hunt at night, you have a raised platform, it's on posts, and you have to dip the posts, you have to paint the posts in turpentine because turpentine will stop them if you don't do that they will come up the posts and it will come into your place and they will kill you now sometimes you can wake up covered in ants soldier ants you won't die because they're foraging they're not hunting so you sit there you don't move don't move and they'll go over you and not eat you. What if you kill one?

I don't know. You fucked up, son. But you don't move. You kill one, you're good. They tell you to, you don't move. No, I don't know. Don't move. They will go over you and pass over you.

So millions of ants will pass over you. Ray, don't do shit to them. But that's why in the rainforest, you use a hammock. You put it between two trees, sleep, and the ropes that hold the hammock are also dipped in turpentine. Oh, and when you're in the rainforest, I had to carry, you think off works for the mosquitoes? Off? Get the fuck out of here.

They laugh at that shit. You carry a sulfur coil. A sulfur coil that you burn and it's burning sulfur in front of you. That's how you have to hang out in the rainforest, because otherwise, bugs will eat you alive. Why do people like going in there?

They eat elephants. They go into an elephant's ear, and they start eating elephants. I was studying orangutans, and I thought I wanted to be a naturalist, so I'm 20, and I go, I want to be a naturalist. I want to live in the jungle, and I was studying orangutans. So you track orangutans all day. You know what that means?

Collect their feces and sift through it and figure out what they're eating. Sounds like a party. Jane Goodall, you think she went through a lot of, because they never talked about the bug problems. Well, Jane Goodall, yeah, Jane Goodall was a different thing because she dealt with chimps.

Now, when you deal with chimps versus orangutans, orangutans are fine. They're not going to kill you. Chimps are living groups. Orangutans are solitary. What about the bugs, though? How come she didn't deal with the bugs? That first bug's in the Congo. So, yeah, you're dealing with major bugs.

So they just never talked about them. In her movies, they never talk about how she got attacked by bugs. I love that transition. I don't know if you guys saw that. Sorry. Anyways, not bad. Bugs are the biggest thing in the rainforest. The San Antonio kid's going to be a monster.

Yeah, he's a beast, man. Bugs are the worst. I had an experience. You weighed in light. Whatever he decides The San Antonio kid's going to be a monster. Yeah, he's a beast, man. Bugs are the worst. I had an experience in Costa Rica. You weighed in light. Whatever he decides to do, he's going to be a handful. No, I had an experience. It was like the worst vacation of my life. Yeah.

I had friends go, dude, let's go to Costa Rica. We're going to party. I thought Costa Rica was like Cancun. Yeah. They go, yeah, we're going to party at Ed Clay. He goes, dude, it's me and like 10 people, chicks. We're going to fuck. We got this

Mansion on in Costa Rica that we're gonna party and I'm like thinking mansion Cancun party Beach So I said fuck it let's go we land in Costa Rica I thought we were in the city where we're gonna party in San Pedro or San Jose or something they go Oh, no, we're just staying here for the tonight the mansions. We got another take another plane to get to the mansion Like oh shit we get into this prop plane. There's like six of us in there going, holy shit. We like go into Jurassic Park, land on the outskirts of Costa Rica in this jungle town. Wow. And I'm thinking, I hate the jungle.

I'm not trying to go to the jungle. I don't like bugs at all. I can't deal with that shit. That's a phobia of mine. I don't want to go scuba diving. Right. Jaws fucked that up for me. I don't want to go into a jungle. I don't like bugs at all. I can't deal with that shit. That's a phobia of mine. I don't want to go scuba diving. Jaws fucked that up for me. I don't want to go into a jungle. I don't want to fuck with bugs.

I'll go snowboarding all day, but I ain't going into no damn jungle. I'll see a DVD of it. That's it. So I got tricked. They didn't do it on purpose, but really, I fucked up. I thought it was like Cancun. I didn't know we were going into a jungle. We get to the mansion.

I'm fucking freaking out inside. I don't want to spoil. I didn't know we were going into a jungle. We get to the mansion. I'm fucking freaking out inside. I don't want to spoil. I don't want to seem like a big pussy. I'm like, fuck, I got to hold it inside. It's daytime. I go, shit, what happens at night? We're in a jungle. There's a mansion in a jungle. It's cool, but holy fuck, we're going to get killed by these bugs. I walk into my room.

The ceiling doesn't connect to the side walls because if bugs don't bother you You know you just open the shit up you want that breeze coming through here. I walk into my room There's 50 bees in my room I put my bags down I go downstairs And there's a guy the dude who own the house his uncle stays there all the time ago. There's bees in my room Yeah, I'm trying to keep my pussy nests under control sure

I don't let anybody see the fear, but I'm thinking about when the Sun goes down. What's gonna happen? What's gonna happen when the jungle oh shit? It's summertime Turn on the ceiling fan, but don't turn it on on blast just bear it put it on low It'll make them uncomfortable in the fly away Damn you don't want to make them uncomfortable right? Yeah, I got a sleep in that motherfucker So I turned on the fan on low, left it there. We all take off to go. Everyone needs, you had to have your own ATC.

Four-wheeler? ATV. ATV. You had to have your own one. So we were going to, as soon as you get there, leave your bags. We got to get our transport. Everyone's got to have their own. We're in the jungle because if you don't have your own fucking ATV, you're going to be left behind.

So we get in the van to go to this, to get our ATVs. And I said, are you guys worried about the bees in your room? Oh, my God. There was like a Playboy Playmate chick. She was there, too. She's like, yeah, did you see all the bees? What are we going to do about them? I'm mad at that.

Yeah. And anyways, when the sun, we went into town, got our ATVs. I went to the local store and bought all their off. Damn right. I bought all their off. Damn right. And as we went back to the mansion, there's a pool. It looks like Jay-Z's mansion pool. Infinity

pool. And then you see the coast of Costa Rica. The sun was going down. It was like from dusk till dawn. I went in the bathroom and just drenched my whole body. I used off like mousse. I drenched my whole body and we sat by the pool. And I'm like, I'm not going to be attacked. And you know what? The bugs came

out. First, the frogs come out. And I'm like, Oh my God, what are all these frogs? I thought we were being attacked by frogs. And the old man goes, the frogs are going to be your best friend. Watch when the bugs come out, the frogs, you just see just like brave heart of frogs and bugs. You never see the same bug twice. You never see the same bug twice. No, you don't. You never see the same bug twice. We had to go six hours upstream to where the nature preserve was. We get in this rickety boat, rickety, like a raft,

and there are saltwater crocodiles everywhere in that bay. Oh, God. And there are accidents all the time where people crash into other boats because they're drunk or whatever, and people get eaten. And right two weeks before this, they had to shoot this crocodile,

this huge saltwater crocodile that killed a kid. They shot it with an M16 like 15 times. And then it didn't die, so they put electrical cables into the water and electrocuted it to death, right? There's no more. So then there's that. We get there.

My sister the first day puts her foot in her sandal and goes in her clog and goes, my foot's on fire. My foot's on fire. Pulls her foot out. It's a fire ant. It's one of those ants. Damn, that's crazy, son. You got any other vacation stories you want to share? Forget it, man. That's why I don't do it.

That's why I don't want to do that stuff. And he was talking for too long. Is he going to jump in? No. He finished his story and I was just... Dude, I was halfway through. I was piggybacking. I'm nowhere near done, but I'm going to end it at that. Joe, you think Fabio can win this fight at all? Well, it's a crazy fight when you think that Miocic is number seven heavyweight in the world.

Fabio Maldonado, not even ranked as a heavyweight. Light heavyweight either. He's a light heavyweight. Not ranked light heavyweight either. Yeah, he's a light heavyweight, not ranked as a light heavyweight. Probably should fight at 185. Known as a guy who carries body fat fighting as a light heavyweight. Not ranked light heavyweight either. Yeah, he's a light heavyweight, not ranked as a light heavyweight. Probably should fight at 185. Known as a guy who carries body fat fighting as a light heavyweight, but known as also being an incredibly durable guy.

And undefeated as a pro boxer. Mm-hmm, yeah. But Stipe was a training partner of mine. Homeboy can wrestle, man. I think we'll see some of his wrestling tonight. I wonder. He's a smart fighter I wonder what he's going to try to do

Fabio Maldonado He's a fucking blood and guts fighter, man He is the epitome of a blood and guts fighter That guy can take a fucking beating That hair Very few guys can take a beating like Maldonado can And he's got vicious body shots His left hook to the body is fucking nasty.

But he's going to be so outsized. I mean, he's nowhere near the same size. Like when the two of them get inside the octagon, I think you're going to see a big size disparity for Stipe Miocic. How much heavier is Stipe? Well, Maldonado weighs 205 when he fights. He weighed in at 212 tonight, I think. And then Stipe was around 230.

God, look at that. It's not that bad when you consider the fact that Kane regularly fights guys that are much heavier than that. But you gotta think... He looks small right there. Maldonado's a small light heavyweight. And he's not exactly a shredded 212. Great boxing though, man. Phenomenal boxing.

He's really sweet. It becomes really interesting. Are they fighting in heavyweight? Uh-huh. Short notice, because Junior Dos Santos and Stipe were supposed to be the headliner. Junior got hurt and had to pull out. Yeah, he broke his hand. Yeah, look, what's interesting about it is because so much is on the line for Stipe. It's really, it's not really,

it's a lose-lose for Stipe. If you don't destroy this guy, people are like, dang, man, what the hell happened? Even if he puts up some sort of fight. He's essentially saving the card. It's really interesting to know heavyweights were prominent enough to take that position. Thinking about how there's a short fight. I didn't get a call. I would have took the fight.

Would you have taken that fight? I would have took the fight. I was in shape. I could have fought Andrei Lofsky three weeks ago. Wow. My rest and heart rate on Friday was 37. Whoa. Holy shit.

That's ridiculous. That's crazy. Mine's 65. Damn it, I got to start training. I'm going to do some pool sprints. Yours is 112. Back to Brian. Back to Brian again.

Yeah. I'm just saying, dude. I got to start taking my training more seriously. It's crazy how you keep bringing it back to yourself. Yeah, but I. Back to Brian again. Yeah. You brought it back to me. I'm just saying, dude. I got to start taking my training more seriously. It's crazy how you keep bringing it back to yourself. Yeah, but I'm going to videotape it, so of course I'm going to bring it back to myself. I'm in the conversation. Huh? Look at this.

Joe, quit picking on me, man. I'm getting sensitive. Bro, you're getting bullied. I'm getting bullied. Get online quickly. Seriously. Hey, guys, online. Attack Joe.

Stand up for me, everybody. This is a good fucking. Actually actually i have a lot of john anik was telling me he was surprised they didn't call me to step in for this yeah it's interesting i would have thought well you know i guess they well you were originally scheduled to fight hunt what happened in that fight hunt what kept saying he was hurt and then we're supposed to fight in june they say wouldn't be ready to fight in June in New Zealand. So then I was like, dude, I have to fight. I can't wait. Go like that if you're going to eat.

It helps. It sounds so cool how loud it is. Chewing. It sounds cool to you because you're high. Nature box. It sounds so cool that I have snacks like this. But with Mark Hunt, it kept getting prolonged, prolonged, and then I was like, dude, I have to have a fight. I don't want to sit out of gear.

And then they called me with Andre Arlovsky, so I didn't want to sit out of gear Right right right And then they called me With Andre Arlovsky So I didn't want to wait And now he's fighting Roy Which people are like Oh Shaub are you mad Hell no That's an epic fight

I can't wait to see that fight That's a great fight Believe me Mark Hunt's time will come Oh shit That was a fucking He just threw down a declaration Mark Hunt's time will come

Dodged a bullet son Uncle Dana saved ya Whoa See that, everybody? Pause. Just pause. Let that sit. Yeah, I think Fabio Maldonado got the call because he's Brazilian as well.

That's the big thing. No, I heard he text Jose. I was like, yo, I want this fight, son. We probably wanted a fight in Brazil. Fabio Maldonado is an example of never look at a guy with a shirt off and think he's a pussy just by the way he looks. Fedor kind of, everyone knows that. Well, thanks. Thanks for taking my thunder. Any other brain busters?

Thanks for taking my thunder, guys. I guess it's shit on Brian. It's shit on Brian Saturday, everybody. Give me other brain busters. I want to apologize. Apparently it's shit on Brian Saturday. I can't think. A little Billy Madison quote for you. How about fucking Mark Hunt? But seriously. We were talking about Mark Hunt. Who looks like deceiving more than Mark Hunt?

I know. Roy Nelson. They're fighting each other. Roy Nelson, you're like professional athlete? I know. I grew up with island people. I would look at Mark Hunt and not fuck with them. I don't care.

Where'd you grow up? No, I wouldn't fuck with Mark Hunt. I grew up in Tahiti. That's what I thought. You couldn't look. You remind me of Tahiti. It's funny. Brian's been to Tahiti. Tell's what I thought. You couldn't look. You remind me of Tahiti. It's funny. Brian's been to Tahiti.

Tell the story, Brian. Good question, Joe. Why don't you tell us when you went on vacation and all the insects you saw. Please, please waste my fucking life with that story again. This is Tahiti. I had my shirt off. Do you know how funny that was? He said, good question.

Good question. Thank you for asking. Actually, when I was in Tahiti, have you ever seen the snakes in Tahiti? Oh, they're great snakes. Well, hey, I was playing with a snake in Indonesia. That is six minutes of my life. I will never get back. No more animals.

Great story. I'm playing with a snake. By the way. Playing with a snake with a stick. But when the guy comes up and goes, young man, if that snake bites you, you will be dead in a half hour. And we are six hours from any hospital. And I went, okay, I'll stop playing with that snake. Please stop. Good story. Please stop the animal stories. Good story. Good story about

snakes, guys. That was funny. Not bad, right? See, Eddie? Eddie's got my back. Yeah, you're turning it around. Of course I am. You've got to turn it around. When your back's against the wall, you learn how to turn it around. Yeah, you just flip it. Look at Stipe chewing gum. He looks pretty calm.

There he is, ladies and gentlemen. Stipe. He looks high as fuck. You could work that into your stage. He does. He looks high. Your act. You could be like the guy who thinks he knows a lot about MMA.

Does anybody ever walk to the octagon looking higher? God, he looks relentless. He looks high as fuck. He does look super, super high. Also has a full-time job as a firefighter. Is that right? Yeah, I just said that. Doesn't look like he's even remotely warmed up.

He looks like he's just like, well, here we go. By the way, if you have a job as a firefighter, it's one of the best jobs to do other shit. Because you have four days on, four days off, right? Two days on, four days off. Yeah, they have 24-hour shifts. And a firehouse, if they You know A firehouse If it's a good firehouse Is a great place to work

Obviously it's very dangerous Obviously there's a lot Of responsibility My friend Ray Back in New York Was a firefighter We used to call him Ray the fireman

And he fucking loved it Because he could do All kinds of shit While he was at work He learned how to be a cook Because they would have times Where they didn't have To do anything

They called him Ray the fireman You called him That's real creative It was in a pool hall. Ray the fireman. White Plains, Charlie. Where's he from? White Plains.

You know? I love that. Tommy. Tommy's from Mount Vernon. Martial Arts Studios have that, too. That's my friend Brendan the fighter. Yeah, there was Deli Steve. Yep.

Because he worked at the deli. They can't leave now. They can't leave the firehouse? No. When they're on, they cannot leave. They can't even go to the store? Maybe they can go to the store. They do shifts and shit like that, I'm sure.

No, I think they have to stay at the station. You might be right. That's the deal. You can't be driving around. After you get a call, you got to chill and jump down the line. Yeah, but I bet there's some firehouses that have such a cool chief that he lets dudes, but he has them on call and goes, dude, you got to meet us at the fucking fire. Well, I'm sure they cover their bases.

I'm sure they cover their bases. You know, like when a guy's scheduled on, you know, there's probably another guy that's scheduled to go shopping for them You can do push-ups all day That's the thing You can do a lot of training And a lot of those gyms in firehouses are pretty stocked up They probably have mats and they do jiu-jitsu Got a heavy bag

Did Stipe play baseball? Yeah, he did play baseball, yeah Pro or? He was drafted, never played Wow Played baseball at Cleveland State and wrestled Good athlete, man Who?

Great athlete Damn Who? Miocic Stipe Mi. Good athlete, man. Who? Great athlete. Damn. Who? Miocic. Miocic. Oh, he's American? Yeah. He just wears the Croatian stuff.

I think, yeah, Croatian descent. He would wear the Crow Cop shorts every day when we trained. It was weird. That is weird. He speaks perfect English? Oh, yeah. He doesn't speak any Croatian. Damn, he's big.

6'4", 230. Damn. Yeah, these are heavyweights, Brian. I thought he was from Finland or some shit. Still, 6'4", 230. He's a little bit bigger than you, Brian. I don't know about that. I haven't, I mean, yeah.

Just because you're not training right now because of your heart rate issue. After pool sprints, bro? A year of that? Pool sprints. Good luck. Good luck. And I've been boxing.

I'm impressed with my hands. As long as you don't hit me back I can fucking move Mario Yamazaki He's got a band in that heart What about your jab? How's your jab, Brian? My jab is lightning

It's viper quick They call me the viper in the gym. Am I right, Brian? Yeah, he has to. He's got to stop with the hard thing. It kills me. I told Eddie to stop chewing in front of the thing. I'm chewing in front of it.

How's your guard passing, Brian? My guard passing is, they call me slick in the jiu-jitsu circles. That's what I heard. Yeah, honestly. But I coat myself with oil. If you were a referee, would you do a heart or would you come up with your own move? Me? What would it be? I'd do I heard. Honestly. But I coat myself with oil. If you were a referee, would you do a heart or would you come up with your own move? Me? What would it be? I'd do a haka dance.

Could you do just a ball, crater a ball and hold a shaft? No movement. Instead of this. That's a Thai thing. You could say that's a Thai thing. Could you do this? You do that? And Brendan Schaub is your referee. I'm like this.

Could you do that? If they that karate thing? And Brendan Schaub is your referee. I'm like this. Could you do that? Could you do that if they fucking intro'd you as a fighter? Like if you lost the bet. Like, big man Schaub. You remember when fucking Dennis Hallman lost that bet and he wore those little skivvies? Yeah. Well, he got fired. Maybe he got fired the next day.

He didn't get fired, but he got in trouble. He wore like the shortest old school Valley 2-Dos. Basie wore a sunga. That was Marco Rua used to wear those, like a Speedo. Karate, they do this thing. Instead of doing that one like that with the fist over, if you just do it like this. It's basically you're saying create all the balls and hold the shaft.

There you go. Oos. Oos. Oos. Oh, dude. Oh, dude, wait a minute. No, no, no. Rock people. You can buy with it. It seems silly, but. Look at the difference in size. Very important. Look at the difference in size

Look at the difference I don't see a big difference I don't see that much of a difference I do Oh my god It's an optical illusion I wouldn't call it out like that I wouldn't call it out like that

Let me see when they're moving He's a foot taller No He's so much bigger Come on Does Fabio look like the owner of CrossFit? A little bit. It's not a big deal, though.

Guy can throw down. I'm going to go with Fabiano Maldonado. Oh, snaps! Hit him right away in the face. There's not that big of a difference. Oh! Oh! No, no, no.

Survive, survive. Survive. Survive. He's in big trouble. Survive. Steve Bates backed off him. Look at that. Why did he back off? It's good control. He's going to come back on this.

He'll come back. Because he's super confident he's going to put this guy to sleep. No, he's not. He's not worried about it at all. He's so much bigger, dude. Exactly. He hurt him. He's not rushing in at all.

That's a veteran move. That's experience. Not rushing in there. Oh! That's not fair. He's way too big. Come on! Way too big. What? That's it. He's way too big. Oh, boy. Jesus! That's not fair. He's way too big. Come on! Way too big.

What? That's it. He's way too big. Oh, boy. Jesus, he's too big. Miocic hit way too hard. Nobody ever did that to Maldonado before. I can't believe they sanctioned that fight.

Let's be honest, man. Let's be honest. Let's absolutely be honest. The only reason I sanctioned that fight is because it's in Brazil. They wanted to save the card. Maldonado asked for it, and it'll save the card. You're absolutely right. And Maldonado's such a beast.

People are like, you know what? Give him a chance. But look at this, man. Oh, boy. Boom. That right hand. That's why if really he's an 85er fighting an elite heavyweight, that's exactly how it should go down.

Would that have knocked you out, Brian? Honestly, I would have rode that shot. He could have been an 85er. He could have been an 85er. And he wasn't even really a lead at light heavyweight. He was just tough. No, he's just a guy. Yeah, this is a dangerous matchup, in fact.

Super dangerous. Makes me sad. Yeah. I mean, nobody ever did this to him before. But you're dealing with a totally different kind of thump. And that's what Brendan was talking about when he was talking about the difference between flyweights and heavyweights. This.

Boom. Damn. That's thunderous. Didn't look like he punched him hard, either. I'm just dropping. You're retarded. It looks like he punched him hard either. You're retarded. It looks like he punched him really fucking hard. Punched the shit out of him.

How dare you say that? Straight right. I'm just saying. You guys never agree with Brian. It wasn't like a haymaker. Agree with him every now and then. A straight right on the jaw from a heavyweight? I'm saying from your vantage point, it doesn't look like he wound up.

He just, like a short jab. It was a perfect punch. No, it wasn't a jab. It was a perfect punch. I mean, a short right. How come you're not giving him credit? He just, like a short jab. It was a perfect punch. No, it wasn't a jab. It was a perfect punch. How come you're not giving him credit? He deserves, Brian. Listen, guys, I think Stipe is a paper giant. I know. Root for Brian.

Hey, Brian, how come you're not giving him credit? Back and forth. You're fast-paced. I'm like, I thought about it. I'm like, I thought maybe you were just being mean automatically, but did he really, did you really say that? I'm just saying it was a deceptive, a short right. Of course, it's going to knock him out, but it doesn't look like he hit him as hard.

He didn't throw a haymaker from his hip, Brian. I'm sorry, bro. That's what I'm saying. Brian, it was a perfect right hand. Well, you haven't seen my right hand, bro. I've seen it. I want to talk about it more. I've seen your wheel kick, too.

Well, Stipe did his job. What would Joey say to Brian if he was here right now? Listen, cocksucker, enough is enough. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If that right hand hit you, you'd be back in Afghanistan looking for frogs. You'd be out in the jungle, cocksucker, with your fucking turpentine. Go wax your poles, fuckface. Now that's a good Joey Diaz impersonation.

Get back in the fucking jungle and wait for orders. Guys, I'm discussing an apology. Listen, if that fucking right hand hit you, you wouldn't even know a million ants were walking over you. You'd be sleeping like a baby. While ants are attacking you. You'd wake up and it'd be fucking three days later. A skeleton. No ants, no nothing.

Even the ants would feel sorry for you. This motherfucker's so alcohol we can't even eat him. It'd be a travesty. Yeah, that's like jungle law. It's like some universal jungle harmony. You're just too dead. It's out of respect. Out of respect. The ants would go around you and eat an elephant. You're just too dead. It's out of respect. Out of respect.

The ants will go around you and eat an elephant. Look at his right hand. Boom. Yeah. Jesus, Brian. Right on the temple. I don't even understand how he went down from this fucking perfectly placed right hand shot from a 240 pound super heavyweight.

God. All knuckles. I'll tell you what. That's a lot of weight behind that punch. It's a goddamn telephone pole striking you in the face. It's not fun. So you realize you made a mistake, Brian. No, I'm just saying there are guys who behind that punch. It's a goddamn telephone pole striking you in the face. It's not fun. So you realize you made a mistake, Brian. No, I'm just saying there are guys who take that job.

Let it go, cocksucker. Let it go. Just realize you made a mistake. You'll be waking up in a fucking tent. Back up a little bit. Just say, Joe. Just back up a little bit. Listen to horses run on cornflakes.

You're a little out of line. You're a little out of line, Brian. Just back up. God dang. Acai. He must have known. Yeah. He must have known.

And you know what? How long is Junior out for? Anyone know? Broken hands, man. Broken hands are a motherfucker. You know, when you get them, that's the other thing. You start getting them more often. Jesus.

Why does that guy have no shirt on? Vitor has had because he's angry. Because he probably forgot his and he had to give it to him. He's angry. He's ready to fight. He's mad. Is there a steel plate? Is there a steel plate?

You can... Yeah, they do things. They's ready to fight. He's mad. Is there a steel plate? You can... Yeah, they do things. They do things to your hands. To protect your hands? They put plates in there, surgeries. But the bottom line is once you start breaking your hand, it's very likely you're going to break it again. What if you put the plate before you break it? Well, it all depends on how much time you let it heal before you get back to training.

That's the big thing. Get some plates, Brandon. Shit, you'd be fucking knocking out... We didn't watch... ...Cain Velasquez one punch. We didn't watch the full Musassi fight. Musassi versus, we didn't see the end of it.

Steel plate on your elbow. Can you imagine that? On your foot. Hey, right now, there's no laws against it. They should jump on it. Don't wait for it to break. Jump on that shit. If you did like a Wolverine thing.

Yeah, why not? I'm going to find it here for us. Find it so we can watch Musashi. And there's no way you can put it over there, right? No, unfortunately, it's on my, we'll watch the whole thing since we have the time. Brinestan, John Anik, live in Brazil. Stipe Miocic, man, he's a motherfucker dude he is a motherfucker i guess did you see uh kenny florian and hinata do that scene from heat no you haven't seen that no dude dude hinata and kenny florian do the scene from heat where

they sit in the diner oh that's that's great. It's fucking incredible. Really? Dude, it's fucking. It's Renato doing Robert De Niro. Oh, my God. So there's a lot of inside shit that most people wouldn't understand. Is that on YouTube? Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I'm having a hard time getting the main event.

He's got his own show. He's got his own internet show that's a huge smash called the Renato Laranja Show that's being produced by Flixpoint. Oh, my God. You go to YouTube, put in Flixpoint, Renato Laranja. Dude, there's a scene where Renato gives Darth Vader a jiu-jitsu lesson. And he gives it to him. After the lesson, he gives him a stripe on his white belt.

Oh, my God. Darth Vader. For some reason, this thing is not allowing me to fast forward it. I'm having a hard time figuring out how to fast forward this. Maybe it needs to buffer. Yeah, it must be. It must be because Luke Barnett is fighting, and he was earlier on that card. He's awesome.

Yeah. Do you want to watch this fight? Yeah, go for it. Do you guys want to do that, or do you want to get some dinner? Because it's almost 10 o'clock. I'm starving. Yeah, let's just watch this Musashi fight. If that fight goes to decision, Luke Barnett loses.

Sorry. Oh, shit. I can't believe you just did that. Let's skip that shit. Now I'm trying to eat, son's just watch this Musashi fight. If that fight goes to decision, Luke Burnett loses. Sorry. Oh, shit. I can't believe he just did that. Let's skip that shit. Now I'm trying to eat, son. What's up now, son? Tight move, huh, Brian? Give me some air to air.

There it is, baby. I know you're hungry. Yeah, it's buffering. Hey, if you're in Southern California, you want to go to my show tomorrow, eddiebravoinvitational.com. Tickets are $25. We've made it nice and cheap. Tomorrow at 4.30 in Hollywood.

What time would it end? It all depends on how fast the matches go. It could end in an hour or it could last three or four hours. Is there no time limit? It's just submissions only? No, no, no, no. It's submission only, 10-minute rounds, and we have a submission-based overtime,

like extra innings. Like, we go in overtime I get to get on your back with double over under with both leg hooks what? it's like extra innings

it's extra innings either you if I get you then you get a chance on my back if I escape then I win it's like extra innings

oh that's cool but if you tap me too then we go another extra innings yeah it's like overtime college football you both get a chance to attack we both get a chance to attack that We both get a chance to attack.

That's our overtime. That's sweet, man. You know, 10-minute rounds and then three maximum overtime innings, extra innings. If we go three innings and it's still tied, like maybe the first round, both got a sub. Second round, both escaped. Third round, both escaped. So you can sub each other more than once in a match? It's like extra innings. You both get suppose get a chance yeah we go into overtime instead of

overtime being uh based on wrestling which like whoever has the best wrestling will win a lot of wrestlers will stall and and and want to win in overtime because they know that wrestling is dominant we're trying to eliminate that so what is your uh how does it work let's say we go 10 minutes and there's no submission. Then we go into overtime. You get to, it's like extra innings in baseball. You get, you're the top half of an inning. You get my back, both leg hooks with an over-under. If you submit me, now I get a chance to get you.

If you escape, you win because I couldn't score. We both had a chance. You scored. But if you tap me too, then we go another inning. Then you get on too then we go another inning then you get on my back I escape then I get on your back you escape we go another inning

so and then the next inning you tap me and then when I get my shot you escape you win that's interesting sweet

how did you come up with this idea lots of cannabis lots of cannabis allegedly yes allegedly we've been doing this at the Midwest Submission Challenge in the Midwest and it's working out great Lots of cannabis. Lots of cannabis. Allegedly. Yes, yes. Allegedly. We've been doing this at the Midwest Submission Challenge in the Midwest, and it's working out great. So we're trying it out, and the whole format was all designed to try to make jiu-jitsu exciting enough so networks would want to air it.

Because we got dog frisbee. We got ridiculous sports being aired we have to have there's no reason to not have jujitsu on tv but the only way you're going to do it is you got to eliminate the point system because that'll never work right that it's we've had jujitsu with the point system for 20 years we don't see any tv out no one people have looked at it they're like no way we can't put this on tv so it has to be submission only and um ultimately it's got to it's got to be about money it's has to be submission only. And, um, ultimately it's gotta, it's gotta be about money. It's gotta be like a game show, like 60 man bracket. And the guy who wins it all,

he's the only guy who gets paid. Then that'll increase the urgency, make it submission only give submission, uh, uh, submission bonuses and incentive that way you throw so much money at it. These guys are in there to make as much money as possible. So that translates to entertainment for the guys watching because that's really who's important here, the audience. We want to make it so the audience can't wait to see this shit. And the only way that's going to happen is you provide jiu-jitsu matches that are incredible. You're like, oh, shit.

Yes, there's still going to be some boring matches, but overall you want like 60%, 70 there's still going to be some boring matches but overall you want like 60 70 percent of the matches to be exciting enough so that your average ufc fan will enjoy because right now most ufc fans do not want to watch the mundials and do not want to watch adcc they're into mma they don't want to watch they dip into it we there's so many people that in the that are fans of the u the UFC that would be down for grappling, and they would be down to watch it, even though they didn't do jiu-jitsu, if it was exciting enough. And that's what I'm trying to do.

I may fail miserably, but I'm trying. I'm trying to make jiu-jitsu as entertaining as possible. Not to make money. Just to make jiu-jitsu cooler. That's it. Okay, Musashi and Munoz are fighting right now, and I started it while you were still talking, so I'll back it up so we could all get a chance to check this out.

So Mark's game plan, all we worked on was movement and be unpredictable. Change your levels and not only just shoot for takedowns, but set it up with your big hands. But you can tell right away he kind of just shoots from, that's way too far to shoot right there, especially on a guy like Musashi. It's getting harder and harder to take dudes down. Look, he's got a hold of him.

It's hard. He's got him up, and boom, takes him down. But can't control him. That's some base and bounce. Amazing, amazing base by Musashi. So the whole camp, the biggest thing was level changes and movement for Mark. Don't get backed up to the cage and come over the right hand over Musashi's jab. It's easier said than done when you have a vicious striker coming at you.

I'm just telling you, that was the game plan, dog. I'm just telling you what our plan was, and then obviously you see it come to life here. Musashi's got the long arms. Even as beautiful wrestlers as Munoz is, he's top level in the UFC. He's facing a guy who didn't wrestle in college, and he's having a hard time taking him down. It's getting hard to take dudes down.

So when you're in a situation like this, in a scenario where you're Munoz, and your sole mission is to take him down and beat him on the ground, and if he can't do that, which is coming up all the time, he's forced into a kickboxing match where he's outclassed on his feet.

This is why it's hard to take him down because Musashi doesn't commit to his punches. He doesn't rush in. He's always using his length. You'll see him. He's jabbing, jabbing, leaning the right hand. He never rushes in. He's got a good start. His base is far back. His base is very far back.

Yeah, look how low he gets. He's so relaxed, too. Look how low he gets. I got a fucking day at the office. And by pulling back when you're low like that, you give yourself an extra six inches where that dude can't punch you. Yep. Smart should be level changing here.

Look how low he is. Musashi was really fucking impressive in the Machida fight too, man. Machida obviously was more impressive, but I was impressed by his ability to take a shot too. Machida head kicked him, man. That was a good shot by Mark. That was a good shot. He just defended it.

Here's the guillotine. Mark in the middle of that shot, he could have pulled half guard and tried to get on top another way. Because there's two ways to get on top for Mark. Either take him down with a classic wrestling takedown that he's so good at. Or you take the long way to get on top. You can't take the guy down.

He's hard. He's got good base. It's way easy to shoot and pull half guard. And you've got to have some high quality half guard sweeps. But that's how Noguera beat Tim Sylvia. You better be super high-level. Every fighter should be trying to get super high-level because that's how Noguera beat Tim Sylvia.

Noguera could not take Tim Sylvia down. Tim Sylvia was winning on his feet. The way Noguera got the fight to the ground is he shot, he pulled half-guard, and then he swept him. He swept him and got on top. Here's how crazy this elbow rule is. Mark doesn't have the time to do that jiu-jitsu. You know what I'm saying? He's too far in his career now to learn that. Here's how crazy this elbow rule is. Mark doesn't have the time to do that jiu-jitsu. You know what I'm saying?

He's too far in his career now to learn that. Here's how crazy the elbow rule is. Look at that nasty crank. Ouch. He would be amazing. He would be so confident where he could pull half guard and sweep instead of committing to a kickdown. It's just not in his nature though. You know what I'm saying?

He's wrestling to his core. He's got to adapt because this guy's not even a wrestler and he can't take him down. It's getting hard. It's getting hard these days. I want to talk about these elbows. It's so crazy that you can do a downward elbow as long as it's on the side. As long as it's sideways. That makes sense.

It's totally ridiculous. It's the same exact movement as a 12 to 6. It's going 12 to 6 sideways. Who made that rule? The Nevada Athletic Commission? Look at that mount. God damn, that mount was nice. If Munoz had a sick, sick half guard, it would look a lot different.

Look at it. He got him here. It's not going to happen, though. He's flat in the mount. Why not? Why not? He's not going to commit himself to that. Why not?

Mark's going to fight. Maybe he will. Why wouldn't he? Why wouldn't he? I know Mark very well. Mark's going to fight one more time in the Philippines and then call it quits, I bet. Oh, really? Yeah.

Has he been thinking about calling it quits anyway? Yeah, maybe. Do you want to talk about it? Well, my point is maybe he retires after this, but I believe... Mark's older, too, bro. If he had a sick half guard... He's old? Uh, man, 36?

He's had a lot of fights, too, in wrestling. He just doesn't have the time to commit to it. it Yeah well He does a bunch of I'm with you man That'd be dope as shit I'm with you Yeah you try to take him down

But when you I agree You figure out I can't take this guy down Second round Third round Your corner should be saying Listen

You can't take this motherfucker down You're gonna shoot Pull half guard And sweep this motherfucker There's so many sweeps you can do from half guard You can get on top that way That's Noguera's done it

Many people have done that. You just don't pay attention. We're completely out of time. We're four minutes. This thing's going to shut off. Okay, let's get the fuck out of here. I've got to wrap it up. Everybody listening, we'll do this every time we get a chance.

It's fun as shit. You guys going to come to my show? I know Joe can't go. I can't. You want to go? I can't tomorrow. You can't? Great.

Can you go? Maybe I will. Wow, that's amazing. That's amazing. No, you guys. Jamie, do you want to go to my show tomorrow? Go to Eddie's show. You can't? Great. Can you go? Maybe I will. Wow, that's amazing. That's amazing. None of you guys. Jamie, Jamie, do you want to go to my show tomorrow? Go to Eddie's show. Let me wrap this up.

Jesus Christ. Thank you guys for the support. We'll do these whenever we can, ladies and gentlemen. We do these whenever we can. Yeah, I'm going to watch a DVD with my girlfriend. Thank you. Oh, my God. We do these whenever we can, but they're a lot of fun.

But here's the thing. You can't expect us to call the fights. If we're hanging out, you're just watching the fights with us. If we want to talk shit, if we want to call the fights, that's fine too. But you've got to just accept what it is. You can't try to change the world. You guys don't even talk about the fights. Exactly.

I've already got those Twitters. Go fuck your mother. We're going to talk about whatever we want. Stop. Damn, look at Gilbert Melendez. I didn't know he was so articulate. All right, that's it. We're out of time

Thank you everybody Good night We'll be back next week With actual real podcasts That aren't fight companions But again We'll do this again Eddie Bravo

Will you do this again with us? Fuck yeah Are you kidding? This is one of the funnest Podcasts of all time I'm not doing it again I get made fun of Shut up bitch

No we'll bring you back We'll bring you back Good night everybody See you soon See you Monday Big kiss.