The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - November 10, 2018

Episode Date: November 11, 2018

Joe sits down with Eddie Bravo & Brendan Schaub to watch the fights on November 10, 2018.

Here we go, here we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Three, two, one. Damn, it's been a minute since we did one of these. Hot minute. How long has it been? I can't remember. At least six months.

Oh, longer than that. Longer than that. And Cal is just not part of the fight. This is the fight companion these days. Wow, you're kicking him out. I can't believe it. I knew it was going to happen. Dude, what are we going to do?

We've got to fall and kind of put him out to sea, man. He's getting old. He just can't make it anymore. What's that dude from the Beatles that they kicked out? What's his name? Before Ringo came in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was he the original drummer? Peter or something like that? Right? He was a drummer, right? Well, fuck

Peter if you bring in Ringo. He was... It was so sad. Pete Best. Pete Best. I was listening to this Malcolm Gladwell book on tape. It's called Outliers. And they got into a part about the Beatles. The Beatles, man.

When this Pete, Pete Best, he was there in the beginning, man. He did these crazy gigs with them. Could you imagine you being a part of a band, and then you get kicked out of that band, and it turns into the Beatles? The Beatles? I beat oh that's never happened before I mean no one is ever before right so no one has ever been is that him right there oh he doesn't look like he fits in does he how no one has ever been that guy I bet he went home screaming when they first oh my god

there was nothing like that before that that There's people who say that that was all staged. No. Come on, Eddie. Those girls screaming? Fuck no. There's people saying that. There's not enough actors out there. It was on YouTube. Then Bieber's are faking too. I'll send you a link. The Biebs has the same effect on girls. Listen, man. Girls lose their mind

when they see certain dudes, Brendan Shaw. Never like that, though. If you look at that old... They just go crazy. That footage... Look at those chicks. Dude, that's because they didn't have the internet. They didn't know they were being dorks. That was natural. That's how every girl naturally feels.

There's no Instagram. There's no Instagram. There's nothing. So the first time you see them in person... Is there a possibility that it was set up? Is there a possibility? Stop with the conspiracies. we have an idea of what women are based on how women behave around us when they're worried about the way we think about them the same way we behave differently when it's all us when there's no women around there's just two ways that people behave and if you leave all these women together hold on a second if you leave all these women together, hold on a second, if you leave all these women together

and it's 19 what? What year was that? What's that? The 62? Late 60s? 62? Right when JFK died? 64, I think.

Dude, they didn't even barely have books back then. Dude, they didn't have shit. They were happy to get out of the kitchen. They got the Beatles while they were playing. Do we have footage

of them girls screaming? Of course they had books. I'm joking. But what I'm not joking around about is that no one had ever experienced anything like that before. And if you get all these girls together and they're seeing these guys who they're seeing on television and they're seeing on the Ed Sullivan show and they're seeing them everywhere. They're in the newspapers and the magazines. And they see these guys and the sounds they make are so good and the

way they sing and play music together is so magical and it's so unprecedented and it's a new kind of sound and they're just special you know these girls just can't help but they're like me you know when you've ever seen a taping you ever see a taping of a tv show yeah do you did you ever see the big applause light? Yeah. Is that a real applause or is that a fake applause? I mean, that's fake. They're there for it.

So it's possible. They're conditioned. That's a different level, bro. That's a different level, dude. Come on. This is not. Already, bro? We're five minutes in?

Listen, those applause lights, they're not a conspiracy. They're not a conspiracy, but they are kind of cheesy. Dude, look at Justin Bieber's concert. I mean, listen, I work security. He's hot as fuck. He is hot. But I work security for some of these bands, and I worked for when Hilary Duff was in her A-Day. I'm talking bitches passing out from excitement.

I had to grab their big asses out of the crowd. Yeah, that's not fake, Eddie. That's real, dude. I'm talking bitches crying. We have to understand that girls have a completely different reaction. Not all girls, but some girls. Some dudes, too. With you, bro. Do you remember the reactions? There's a lot of Beatles footage

of the audience, but there's girls just fucking flipping out, screaming and crying, like just going nuts. You remember those? Those shots? 100%. Look, do I think that girls would act up to get on camera to make it a bigger deal? Yes. Do I think that's what they were all doing?

No. Look at this mayhem. Dude, I think they couldn't believe that the Beatles were actually there and there had never been anybody like the Beatles before. Cockthirsty, bro. Dude, I think they were just hypnotized. There's something singing out in their DNA about that music. Because, look, we can listen to the Beatles today, and it's still great.

I listened to the White Album just the other day. It was amazing. How was it today? I listened to it from beginning to end. I was like, this is incredible. They weren't that sexy, though. They weren't like hard drops. They don't have to be.

They had dickhead haircuts. They don't have to be. They look basic. They don't have to be. No, I know. It. They don't have to be. They look basic. They don't have to be. No, I know. It's the music. It's the music. They're so good.

And this movie, or this book, rather, the Malcolm Gladwell book, was all about extraordinary performances, like what people have done that's been completely extraordinary. And one of them was talking about how the Beatles got so good because they played, I think it was Berlin was where they played, or Hamburg. They played somewhere where they played all night. They played like multiple hours a night, and they played every day. They played an insane number of shows.

In front of audiences? In front of audiences. They just played constantly. And he talked about the importance of that, that by the time we got to see them by the time they were on television they had played together so many more times than the average band were will do in their entire career like the sheer numbers they were always playing always doing these live performances i forget where it was with the cavern club where where was it the

b-rolls at the cavern club is what it was called. I think no, where is the place that they they performed early in their career? I want to say it's Homburg. This is the first of a long series of resident nights during a traditional jazz evening They performed an interval as the only rock group during an all-night session including jazz Maybe it might be one of the long things they've done. I would not think this was before they made it This was like as they they were young guys coming up. Here's another thing about the Beatles and Hamburg. Just so many repetitions. Yeah, and he talked about it.

And then think about that Pete Best dude. He's going, fuck, I was in the mix. Did he end up doing anything? Did he start his own band? How do you recover from that? Biggest L of all time. Here's the thing. There's never been a Beatles before.

So we're looking at the Beatles like we already know they're awesome. They're already a part of pop culture history. I miss them. I'm younger. Yeah, but if we lived back then, man, if it was like 1963 and the Beatles burst in the scene, you would be like, what the fuck? Is there anything close to that? Now we have too much stimulus.

We see it too much. Instagram, we get inside their lives. It's hard. It's hard to find anything like that. There's not some huge band. There's that Korean band that's fucking huge. A Korean band? Yes.

What are they called? That girls freak out. A K-pop band. I forget their name. But they're starting to, you'll see the, they'll put them in like at the Grammys and stuff. And the entire crowd is these young teenage Korean girls going fucking ape shit for them. They're starting to, you'll see the, they'll put them in like at the Grammys and stuff. And the entire crowd is these young teenage Korean girls going fucking ape shit for them. Whoa. They're huge.

But there's like the Backstreet Boys and New Kids on the Block and shit. What about Babymetal? Have you heard of them? What? Babymetal? No. You haven't heard of Babymetal? Never, bro.

You've heard of Babymetal? Jamie's on the ball with the young kids. Dude, Babymetal is super technical power metal, but they have little Japanese girls singing. What? It's insane. It's gigantic. Oh, my God.

It's gigantic. Are you into it, Eddie, or no? It's just patient. No, it's just funny. You can't put this on YouTube, right? Well, you yanked. Just a second. Just a second.

I can't. Damn. And it's super hardcore metal. This is like, it's like, watch. We talk about repetitions. They do, you know, in Korea, you can watch a documentary on the K-pop stuff. And they don't, like, it's not chemistry where they get them together. They force them together.

And then they, it's, you're talking 14 hours a day. They make them rehearse, practice, practice. They can't have't have girlfriends boyfriends to tell them when to eat where to sleep it's a beast fuck that noise that's why like one of the biggest uh korean uh pop singers all time committed suicide just didn't want to deal with the with the restrictions and the control and sounds like illuminati jesus christ oh So they're like the old school studio model. Yep. You remember that, you ever hear that? Menudo? What they used to do? No, no, no, with, um, didn't they

used to do that with, uh, they used to do that with bands, they used to do that with, uh, even with movies. They'd sign, in the old school studio days, they'd sign them to these long-term contracts and they would produce all the stuff for them. And force them to do things and, yeah. I think it's always been that way. Studios would sign actors to contracts, right? Do they still do that? for them. And force them to do things. Yeah. I think it's always been that way.

Studios would sign actors to contracts, right? Do they still do that? That's them, by the way, Jamie. Yeah, BTS. BTS. Behind the scenes? Is that what stands for? That's crazy.

We haven't said anything about the fights. Yeah, I don't know anything about what young kids are doing today. I have to go to Jamie. And Jamie's an intermediary because he's a grown man. He's not a boy. He's a blue belt in the young kids. How old are you?

35. I have to try to pay attention. We're the same. I try too, man. Jamie's struggling to pay attention. The young girls, you know,

I was at the mall today with my son. The young girls with the cut-off jean shorts and the ass cheeks hanging out the back. I know that's in. Dude, that is crazy. I mean, just ass out the back, cheeks hanging out the back. That's crazy. I know that's in. Dude, that is crazy.

I mean, just ass out the back, bro. Out the back. People are just trying so hard. God. Just to get recognition, man. It's a fascinating time to be a person. It really is. So interesting right now.

It's a good time. Oh, yeah. It's a great time. Also a rough time. Wow. With all the mass shooters. Also a rough time. Wow. With all the mass shooters. That's the fucked up part. Especially in Thousand Oaks.

That was a safe ass place. Yeah. How is that? And a Marine. A former Marine. How about a dude that was in the Las Vegas shooting as a survivor was a survivor in the Thousand Oaks shooting? Yeah.

What are the fucking odds of that? Same year? Nothing sane. Think about the odds of that. That's why I of that same year nothing sane think about the odds of that that's why i was talking about girl think about the i think there was someone who was in the vegas shooting who survived that who's at this one that died right was there i think so either way it's dark shit they don't have no idea of his motive or anything right the cops had investigated him they investigated him um fairly recently because they thought he was unstable or something like that.

I think his mom called the cops. Somebody called the cops and they investigated him, talked to him. That's always tough if you're FBI. What do you want us to do, arrest him for being fucking weird? He didn't threaten us. What can we do? For everyone that does this. Can't trail the guy nonstop.

There's a hundred thousand that don't. You know, I mean, you got to figure out what the fuck is it that allows people to decide to hit that switch. Like, I don't know if they understand that. Like, what's the psychological motivation of that? But it's got to be a sign that there's something wrong with our culture. If it's popping up so often. It's got to be a sign that there's something wrong with our culture if it's popping up so often. It's got to be a sign that there's something wrong. Obviously, they always chalk it up to mental health and, all right, yeah, he has mental health problems.

But you know how many people have mental health issues and none of them are going to blow people up or shoot people? There's different kinds of mental health issues. But there's also just bad people. Yeah. Sometimes we've got to chalk it up to that too. That's true too. But, you know, a lot of bad people, like a giant number, have had horrible things happen to them. That's where it gets weird. Because it's like, okay, what made this guy become who he is?

You definitely should arrest someone who does evil shit, right? But what makes a person get to a point where they can do evil shit There's a whole series of events probably take place including abuse Physical abuse maybe sexual abuse and sometimes there's not sometimes you should get a bad apple like with Jeffrey Dahmer It's like his pants like yeah, I mean you definitely get some weird shit with his mom But still you know how some people are born they have problems with their liver Yeah, some people are born they have problems with their brain. Some people are born, they have problems with their brain. That's just a fact.

We know that. There's problems with eyesight. There's problems with people are born deaf. There's errors in the human body sometimes. You don't think that someone could be born just completely squirrelly, wired wrong. Of course they can. Just only makes sense. I'm not a doctor, obviously.

I'm a fucking moron. Of course they can so she'll make sense. I'm not a doctor obviously a fucking moron, but I bet a doctor would agree that When you're dealing with mental health issues, you're probably dealing with this giant spectrum of them What if there's something we could check so that like when they're a baby could check and there's something that's called eugenics But in there like this he's gonna be a bad kid. Do we just call you? But how do you always gonna be about what how awful? He's going to be – How many people – Based on the symmetry of your face. But how many people want to be a better person and they don't ever get it together?

And how many people are lacking some sort of coaching or lacking some – Inspiration. Yeah, inspiration. Positive people in their life and then their life spirals further and further downhill. How many people are on the border? God, the majority, right? I think, yes, because I think people change, and I think people improve as they grow older and as they become wiser and they have more experiences.

But also, if you look at the mass shooters, a lot of them are, quote unquote, losers. They live within their parents' basement. They don't have anything going on. A lot of them are white. A lot of them look like shit. They're always white. they're always white. They're always white. Low energy.

Always white. Low energy. Sometimes not low energy. This guy didn't seem low energy. You know, the Nazis made propaganda films. Basically, they made people believe that mentally deranged people were out on the streets

attacking and killing people. And they made propaganda films so that they would okay killing someone who was mentally deranged. You always have to be careful of people trying to label someone as someone that you don't have to consider a regular human. Someone who you could disregard. That's what they do with the Jews, right? They're like the rats. They're stealing from us.

They're monsters. That's what they do. People have done that throughout history're like the rats. They're stealing from us. They're monsters. That's what they do. People have done that throughout history to other people. There's like a scientific term for it. I don't remember what it is. Eugenics. Damn, I wish Callum was here. No, no, no.

That's not what I'm saying. Callum would have had it. It's a scientific term for people that demonize other groups of people. And the way they look at people. Propagandists? No, no. The way you look at people, like this is a person, and you looked at the enemy, you would look at them like a subhuman.

It's like there's a psychological. It is definitely racist. Yeah, but there's a. There's a trait that people, there's like a pattern that people commonly fall into with that. I feel like it's a common word too. Dehumanize the enemy. We're all stupid in here.

We're all stupid. But dehumanizing the enemy. Count it with no. It's a natural thing that people do. It's fucking, everyone does it. It's so weird. And it's how people can do gang warfare. It's how people can do tribal warfare.

It's how people can do intercontinental warfare. Well, you had your boy, what's his name? The English cat, the hypnotizer, Damon? Darren Brown. Darren Brown. Have you seen his thing on Netflix? No. It's fucking sick and so i'm not it's no spoiler but so he he took a guy like he took a ton of people took a guy who lives in florida who's in construction and who was super kind of racist

towards immigrants like mexicans and hispanics and uh he sat him down because he thought he's the perfect one for sure god Jesus, god damn it. God damn, bro. It's Gio right now. Hold on. Hey, Gio, I'm on Fight Companion right now with Joe Rogan. Say hey, hey, hey. Okay, sorry about that. Did you hear about it or what?

Yeah, I was watching it. I watched your fight with Rosenthal. How long was that? Yeah, yeah. Points, dude. It's the point system. You know what I mean? That's the way they go down.

They called me a falling point. They gave me a point so I could put it ahead and then they took it away and gave me a hint. 10 seconds left in the match. Yeah, yeah.

While I was smashing. Well, I had the underhook on him. You know what I mean I'm on top half I come back out to quarter guard and then they call me for stalling like I don't get that we pass on our knees all the time

like it's a smash pass you know what I mean yeah so that's what it was they called stalling for you being in top half yeah is that why you lost oh I thought it was a judge's decision They called stalling for you being in top half? Yeah. Is that why you lost? Oh, I thought it was a judge's decision, and they gave it to him based on that almost sweet.

No, it was a judge's decision. Okay. This is super technical talk. The only thing I made Jiu-Jitsu more boring is hearing a guy talk about Jiu-Jitsu. Let me call you back. It's tough. All right. I don't think Jiu-Jitsu is boring.

I don't either, but if you explain it. No fucking idea what that was. Gio Martinez in the house. Monster. Gio is a fantastic black belt under Eddie Bravo, and he's one we've referenced many times in the podcast, him and his brother Richie, Boogeyman, because both those guys started out as B-boys.

They started out as these really badass break dancers, and they have incredible control of their body. And I remember when they first started training at Eddie's place, Eddie was like he had a new formula. He's like dude, fucking breakdancer. That's the key. Tony can breakdance too though. And he wrestled.

So he's got both. What's going on with Tony? I feel bad for him. I feel like they're leaving him in the fucking dust. No, no, no. No, the fucking dust. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, they're not leaving him in the dust. No, no, no.

You got some... No. Hey. No, they're very serious about doing something with Tony Ferguson. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about it later. Dana even said that he is most likely next in line for Khabib. Tony Ferguson, look, after that performance...

He deserves it, man. Fuck yeah, he does. And after that performance against Pettis, like, come on, man. This is the time. It's the time to set him up. He's so fucking tough. Khabib wants it too, though. Yes.

I think Khabib said him or GSP, right? It's the fights, man. Tony hasn't lost in, what, is it 12 fights now? How many fights is it? Something like that. 11? It's 11 or 12 fight win streak against guys like Edson Barboza, Darciso. Kevin Lee.

Kevin Lee triangles him. Pettis. Pettis gets an injury. Josh Thompson. Josh Thompson. Rafael Dos Anjos. Up. Lando Venado.

Lando fucking came at him, dude. He beat some tough fucking guys, man. Lando came at him. He had no training camp for that one. He didn't train for that one. A lot of problems. You think that's the next fight they make, though? Lando's a talented guy, man.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, he clipped him. He clipped him with that. He does this head kick out of the break. But he survived that and won. I mean, dude, Tony Ferguson is a fucking beast. Look at this. Abel Trejo, Danny Castillo.

Those are no punks, man. Josh Thompson, Monster, Barbo is a fucking beast. Look at this. Abel Trejo, Danny Castillo. Those are no punks, man. Josh Thompson, Monster, Barboza, Venata, Dos Anjos. Just look at Barboza, Venata, Rafael Dos Anjos, and Kevin Lee, and then Anthony Pettis in a row. He beats those guys. Does not nearly get the attention he deserves. God, man. He's got a million followers now.

Needs more. He should be... First of all, I don't think he should have been stripped because he got injured one time. Doing UFC press. Doing something. He tripped over some wires. It's a freak accident.

It's just something that happened. To strip him because of that. I don't know. I think he beat Anthony Pettis at 60%. You would know more, Eddie. He's looked better before the injury, obviously. But him coming back that fast, doing what he did. Even Dom Cruz is like, I don't know how the fuck he's doing this.

So I thought even as good as he looked, that's not even him at his... He's going to be even better in this next fight. Well, I think Pettis looked really good, too. You've got to give credit to Pettis. For sure. Pettis clipped him and he had him hurt. But Tony figured out a way to hold on and survive. But he didn't look like he was missing a beat to me.

He looked very in tune. I heard something that he didn't spar for this. Is that true? I'm not too sure what he does with the striking. I'm never there when he trains with the striking I have no idea to tell you the truth Oh you don't stay all camp you just deal with the grappling No we do

The nose shit told me that But when he spars when we do jujitsu We definitely spar Situationally No like straight up striking 16 ounce gloves Man that is such a debate. What a crazy debate that is.

Matreon does the same thing. Does he? No sparring. He hasn't sparred in six years. It might not be a bad idea. Robbie Lawler took six years off sparring, too. He did, but then he became better when he went to AT&T. When he went to AT&T and started training with some serious talent down there and dropped

down to 170. I would like that. The period of no sparring. I think that was the 85 period when he was at Strikeforce. Well, Chad Mendes took a while off, too, because obviously he got busted. But then he took time off and then he's looking freaking pretty gnarly. Yeah, dude. And having Dale Earnhardt Jr. on the other day and talking to him about the brain injuries

that he sustained from driving his car and crashing. I haven't heard it. Yeah. I'm horrible. Dude. He got to couldn't walk across a room. He had to hold on to tables and shit as he was walking. How many did he say he's had?

Concussion? Does he know? Wasn't it something insane like 12 over a period of four years? Holy shit. That's a lot. I want to say it was something like insane like 12 over a period of four years holy shit that's a lot i want to say it was something like 12 concussions over a period of four years how does he know he's great super nice guy very very genuine guy the first he said that the links popping up says at least 20 20 concussions that's more than some fighters god damn it that's crazy that is so crazy but you know he's had a lot of a lot of like serious problems that he had to work through but he found

a good doctor that has this good cognitive therapy oh really so he's had some kind of side effects from it he had a bunch of side effects but they cleared him up through these exercises really interesting stuff like and he was basically i made the analogy that it's like is it like exercising your mind like is just like exercising your body like there's things you can do that make things grow and make the neurons firing yeah and make things strong i heard cbd oil and fish oil the experts that i know who are in that field with the brain always tell me tons of fish oil and cbd oil krill oil too that stuff's real good. Yeah. Stuff, anything that reduces inflammation. Damn, Dale Earnhardt,

though. That's crazy. These guys decide that some of them decide, you know, Cowboy was doing that for a while and probably still is. I don't know what he's doing now. I didn't talk to him about this camp. Not sparring heavy? He wasn't sparring at all. He was just hitting pads. Just hitting pads. It's not a bad idea. It ain't the worst idea, man. boxers break the differ

you talked into those boxers and they're like no i think it was uh lomachenko and uh wild ago we like to get uh 12 rounds in hard right before the fight like two weeks three weeks out and then we cut it off like three weeks out just make see where we're at i think the thing about boxing though is your hands are wrapped up. Your gloves are on. You've got 16 ounce training gloves, maybe even 20 if you're a beast. You've got big ass puffy gloves.

You've got big ass puffy gloves and there's no kicking. The thing about kicking, it's like you can't pull that back. I feel like boxing is more dangerous. It is in a way. Because all they're doing is head hunting. like boxing's more dangerous. It is, in a way. Because all they're doing is headhunting, and it's just head. Right.

Especially at that level. But you're not getting kicked. I know, but in high-level gyms like Black House or ATT, AK, people, they're not really going to throw those kicks as hard as they can. Man, I don't know about all that. Unless you have a fucking old-school shoot box. There's a lot of guys that are still going after it like that. There's a lot

of guys that will still talk to you about the benefits of going after it like that. Verdum, yeah. Verdum, blackout. Look at what fucking Firas Ahabi was saying. He gets guys to try to kill George St. Pierre. He'd give them extra money if they could knock him out. Just because he's so good, no one's doing shit. He's so good, they're not doing it to him, but

he wants him in danger. Farras wants George in danger, in legitimate danger. So in his mind is, you put George in legitimate danger all the time in the gym, and he figures out a way to get through that, and he gets comfortable with that. So when it comes to the fight, it's the same thing. But that's easy to say if you have George St. Pierre. And I love Farras, but when you have George St. Pierre, who's the smartest dude to ever, one of the smartest guys to ever fight, and he's so technical, whoever you're going to bring in there, you're not going to hit George. So let me ask you this.

He's so technical. Maybe there's benefit not when you're early going, when you're learning technique more, and you're really learning timing and pacing. technique more and you're really learning timing and pacing maybe then is when you should spar like way more technical correct then when you get older and you're better like maybe you need the fear yes of an actual fight and then you can just slide right into the fight smart because you're also because your head movements better you're moving yeah you're smarter protect yourself more but the danger is still 100 real so that way you're aware of all the danger, too. So that way when you're in a fight, it feels exactly like you're training. It's not a bad idea.

But you're already there. You're already at a high level of proficiency. You already have the tools. Dude, I really think that there's a real issue with fighters, and this is impossible to tell after it's over, right, after the career's over. Like why did they do it this way? What if they had done it that way? Maybe it would have worked better.

Well, you know Chuck Liddell, he's not with Hackleman for this TRT's fight. He just thought that was an old school type of training, so he decided to go somewhere else. He's training with Einstein. Is he? Well, listen, I'm a big fan of Einstein as a jiu-jitsu coach. I don't know Einstein. Oh, he's a jiu-jitsu guy?

I don't know Einstein. And a strength and conditioning coach, too. Yeah, he knows a lot about slow movement, slow movement lifting. You know, slow. What does he call it? I don't know what the style is. It's all like super slow. That's what it is, right?

He's working with Antonio McKee. McKee? Yeah. Does he work with him? Yeah. But I've known that dude forever. How long have we known that dude? He was in King of the Cage when I used to commentate back in 2000.

He's a damn good fighter for a long time, right? His son is awesome. Antonio McKee's son. Antonio McKee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His son's fighting in Bellator. That's right. I was talking about Einstein.

Oh, my bad. But no. But both of them. Chuck is training with that tournament. What's their gym called? Power Garage or some shit like that? Not sure. I forget.

But that's where Chuck's at. Because what I heard on the street, and obviously I fucking love John Hackelman. Shout out to John Hackelman. But it was such an old school way of training. He's like, dude, the game's advanced so fast, I need to go somewhere. And I saw that he goes down to Jay Glazer's place too, right? The Unbreakable place. Yeah, I don't know if they're in business together. He's been there forever. He's been one of the starters. What a dope place Jay Glazer put together. I mean, how badass is

that? It's amazing. Have you been there, Chuck? No, man, I've never been, but I've seen all these videos online. It's really cool. I'm like'm like this place is crazy Snoop Dogg's in there Wiz Khalifa sparring somebody P Diddy was in there You know, um Wiz Khalifa nope. No Snoop Dogg rather sparred with Like a legit spar with Daniel Seraphian Snoop Dogg was butarring. Serafian wasn't hitting him. He wasn't touching him.

But look at this. Look at this. Snoop is in there, and Serafian is just kind of using head movement and kind of touching him a little bit. But you know how fucking goddamn terrifying that must be? To just have gloves on in front of Serafian. Do you think Snoop knows? Is he aware? I don't think so.

He's got to be aware. Someone probably told him. It was like, hey, man, you know what that guy's done? That guy might not be the best in the world. He might not be the best in the world, but he's a fucking monster. Dude, compared to Snoop. He is built like a brick shithouse. Snoop's leg looks like a black Twizzler.

And he cuts a shitload of weight, too. That guy's a gigantic. What weight does Seraphian fighting? I want to say he fights at 85, but he's super jacked. He's a thickie. He's a thickie. Dangerous dude. Looks like a bulldog.

Just a real dangerous dude. So to see him in there sparring with Snoop Dogg, I wonder if Snoop Dogg understands that this is like pawing at a giant pit bull or something. I don't think you know to what level. I don't know. I mean. You ever seen one that. He's got balls.

Snoop Dogg's got real balls. To not just do that, but to do that and put it, make a video of it. True. And dude. And didn't look like an asshole. Didn't look bad. No, it didn't look like an asshole. For a guy that's not like a long time combat sport notable athlete.

You know what I mean? He's not like some guy we've known about. If you saw... There's some guys like Mario Lopez. If you saw Mario Lopez boxing with somebody, you'd go, yeah, that guy can box. Everybody knows it. He has smokers.

Everybody knows Mario Lopez can box. Has he had smokers? Yeah, he has a smoker against a friend of mine. I think Frank Carrillo would fuck him up. Oh, how dare you? I know. He'd punch AC Slater in the fucking face. I don't think so, yeah. He has Smoker against a friend of mine. I think Frank Carrillo would fuck him up. Oh, how dare you? I know. He'd punch AC Slater in the fucking face. I don't think so, man.

Lopez can fight. I've trained with Frank, man. He's a feisty one. I believe you. I mean, he looks tough, but Lopez can fight. I think he knows how to box. You think? Yeah, I think he really knows how to box.

He's been in Wild Card West forever. The way he carries himself. This is one of the reasons why I think he really knows how to box. Because he's not really arrogant? Not really arrogant, but he knows how to fight. He's a nice guy, too. It's nice that they come. You remember our buddy?

He was a porn star. He was the one who fought Mario Lopez. Which one? God damn it. Derek. Am I out on his real name? Oh, dude, give us the porn name. Oh, oh, oh. Black guy? Derek Diamond. Derek Diamond. Yeah, it his real name? Oh, dude. Give us the porno name. Oh, oh, oh.

Black guy? Derek Diamond. Derek Diamond. Yeah. It's not Derek. Oh, yeah. Derek Diamond. You don't want to give his real name?

Tyler Knight. Tyler Knight. Yeah. Oh, that's his porno name? Tyler Knight's his porno name. What a great porno name. And he's also an author. And he runs like crazy marathons and shit now too, doesn't he?

Is he still dicking girls down or is he just older? I'm not sure. So anyway, he had an amateur fight. He used to go to 10th Planet. Yeah. He runs like crazy marathons and shit now too, doesn't he? Is he still dicking girls down or is he just older? I'm not sure. So anyway, he had an amateur fight. He used to go to 10th Planet. Yeah. Really nice guy. Yeah, super nice guy. And he had an amateur fight with Mario Lopez.

He had one of them smokers. And how'd he go? Back in the day. Mario dropped him, I think. A.C. Slater fucked him up. Mario either stopped him or he won a decision. But Tyler dropped him. Tyler dropped Mario.

So it was a real fight. So that to me, because Tyler was jacked. He was super powerful back then. And I think that if he can come back from getting dropped and still win, he actually knows how to fight. Mario knows his shit, too, when it comes to boxing. I've done a podcast on just about boxing. I'm sure. He knows his shit when it comes to that.

He seems like a guy who really does. He's a fan. You know, I mean, I seems like a guy who really does. He's a fan. You know, I mean, I'd like to see him do something. I've never seen him actually box somebody. No, me neither. Isn't he like 45? Yeah, I think he is.

He looks younger than everybody in here. Yeah, he looks beautiful. He's got perfect skin. I don't know what he's doing, but it's working. How old are you? 35. He looks younger than you? Dude, Mario Lopez doesn't have a wrinkle

on his pretty face, dude. AC Slater has an age. Whatever moisturizer he's got, I want. Bring it. Bring it. Dude,

I haven't watched one second of this fight. I haven't either, man. I have no idea. I think several fights there. Well, not there. He looks like, to use Theo's quote,

looks like he got stung by all the bees in the cheeks there. He looks like, to use Theo's quote, looks like he got stung by all the bees in the cheeks there. Super nice guy, too. Really, really nice. Real professional, too. Hosting, he's a beast. Who's blowing up faster than Theo Vaughn? Theo Vaughn's killer.

He's out there killing it up. He's a funny guy, man. He's a really funny guy. Forever. That whole Rat King strap thing that he's got going with the podcast. He's so funny. He's so funny. He brings that belt to all his shows.

He takes pictures with fans. Got the strap. Got the strap. He's so funny, man. He came in as a wrestler when we had Rat Pour On. He came in as a macho man. He's crazy, dude. He's so funny.

He's hilarious. And he's such a good guy. Really good guy. I'm always super happy to see Theo Vaughn. Dude, when we did that show in Phoenix with Ari, Big J, Brian, Theo. I mean, Theo freaking destroyed. Destroyed. It was so much fun.

He always destroys. Every time I see him, he destroys. He's not just funny, right? He's funny and you don't know anybody like him. You've never heard it. He's so unique. His upbringing from New Orleans and being in therapy since he was like seven, he's such a unique dude, man.

He's really, really unique. He's a real good dude. I'll tell you who else I've never really hung out with was Big Jay. Big Jay's awesome. Big Jay's awesome. He's a great guy. Hilarious. Yeah, he's a great guy.

All those Legion of Skanks guys, those guys are the best. I don't know any of them. They're nice guys. Well, I know Big J now. Do you know Lewis? I don't know him at all. Lewis is great. There's Gomez.

They're just Dave Smith, who I've had on my podcast at Gang of Times. If you ever wanted someone that could understand politics and actually be funny, he's really good at that. Yeah, he's a libertarian. He's one of those guys, which usually means like a white guy with a gun. And no disrespect, the only time I ever listened to their show was when,

it was about the, because I think they had one of the dudes on the show when Amy Schumer robbed the stage. Remember that in New York? Oh, yeah, yeah. I listened to that because Big J was like was kind of giving the benefit of the doubt, but then the rest of them were just roasting her. That's the one time.

It's hilarious. Yeah. Was Ari on that one as well? Yeah. Yeah. He goes super hard in the paint. He does go hard in the paint. Ari's great, man.

Ari's not there to play games. He's great. He didn't give a fuck. Ari's an animal, dude. Let me tell you something. That motherfucker went from not working out at all to doing this Sober October fitness challenge and getting hundreds of points more than Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer, guys who work out all the time.

Do Tom and Bert work out all the time? All the time. I mean, Bert obviously looks- Tom has a trainer. I mean, Tom looks good. Looks good. From where they're from, but they're not in shape. I love both of them.

But, bro, it's all in where they're starting from. I know. They're starting from a place where they were both really overweight, and they talked themselves into this weight loss challenge. They lost all the weight. Tom kept it off. Tom looks amazing. Tom looks amazing.

And Bert's been kind of – Bert looks good, too. I don't want Bert skinny. He's been fluctuating. He's been fluctuating a little bit. But I want him skinny, man been fluctuating He's been fluctuating a little bit But I want him skinny man I want him healthy

Yeah Is this the new Rocky movie commercial? Is that what this is? Yeah Apollo It's not gonna go on forever I love it Did Michael B. Jordan do all the steroids? He's jacked on this

Super jacked He's creepy jacked He's like super athlete jacked He's so He's so good at like a bad guy, too. He was great in that Black Panther movie as a bad guy. What do I see Michael B. Jordan's name? What do I see Michael B. Jordan's name?

I was thinking of Chris D'Elia's tweet. It goes, the B in Michael B. Jordan stands for basketball. Crazy, right? Michael basketball. He's so... Whenever I see it it's stuck with me so stupid

dude Dali is so silly oh dude he's like one of the silliest guys ever he makes me laugh so hard man he's funny man he's not just funny

he's so silly like that kind of shit the B stands for basketball dude just out of nowhere it's so stupid that's so silly and it's great it's so good but he does that all the time like his his instagram feed is all just him being silly dude it's like he's

bored all day till he gets on stage and he just does silly coffee shop just making fun of people walk into the coffee shop it's a funny comic too, too, man. Galena makes me laugh harder than anyone, man. He's a funny guy. I love him on stage, but I think I like him as much when he does his silly internet shit. Me, too. I don't know

why he keeps going out. I don't know why he keeps going out. He goes out to everybody, man. Did you see when he was imitating, when he's imitating, rapping like Eminem? Yes. Oh my God.

And I told him, can I see that? Let's see that. Me and him love world star hip hop and I made it on there and then he made it on there. So I sent him the link. I went, bro, you've made it.

Oh my God. He's on world star hip hop. You got world starred. Yeah, he got world starred because he's on there for something. That's hilarious. For this. Yeah.

You hear this? He's just making it up as he goes. Look what I'm planning. I'm planning to do all this while you're panicking. And you're looking and staring at mannequins. And I'm going to mannequins going trying to get up a plan against Well, you don't got the stamina you're lacking the stamina Do you see the edit they did, Jamie, on Eminem's actual body with the video?

It's ridiculous. Only he can pull that off, man. He's so silly. Yeah, that's a good example, like we were talking about, Theo, of a guy who's got his own uniquely ridiculous kind of comedy for some strange reason and when you talk to uh Delia you talk to any of his friends who've known him forever they're like no all he's wanted to do since he was a kid is make people laugh this is literally what he's meant to do yeah like it's just the hilarious silly dude remember he got

huge on Vine before it went away I mean you're talking he's one of the main stars on Vine man for doing this type of stuff. Makes sense. He does that kind of shit all day. His Instagram's great. Oh, if I could post the text that he sends me, I mean, you get millions and millions. They're so funny, man. Yeah. Like when he comes off tour and has all this money.

Then he goes, dude, something's wrong with my microwave. And then hits the button, just all this cash falls out of my grape. He's like, I don't know, man. Because I don't know what to do. We always send each other a picture of our check

for whatever reason. Just talking shit. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Yeah, he's a funny dude. How fun is it having friends that are comedians?

The best. The most fun to hang with, man. The best. Everybody's always being silly. Everybody's always putting you in man. The best. Everybody's always being silly. Everybody's always putting you in your place. Everybody's always calling you out of your bullshit. You're like, oh, no.

I love Chris because he dresses like a fuckboy, too. So if I wear this jacket to the comedy store, everyone will make fun of me. But Chris will at least be like, come on. He'll be like, style. He'll stick up for me. Fresh. Yeah. Yeah, you guys talk about different clothing manufacturers.

Do you know any, Eddie, do you know any clothing designers? Any ones? Some, like Versace. Bonjour. Bonjour. Remember those jeans? I know what Versace means. You don't remember Bonjour jeans?

No. What about Sergio Valente? Listen, this is all old stuff. It's old school, dude. But what I'm saying is this motherfucker could probably rattle off a gang of labels. Gucci. Is that still good? Yeah, is that still good yeah Gucci Gucci stop right now off whites the biggest brand in the world off white off white right now a materialist woman's don't you come on dude materials woman's dream think about

this you're a big old gorilla of a guy you got big dick energy fat dick you're right about that you're a manly man, but yet you're into fashion. Super. And don't suck dick with this jacket on. You don't even with leopard skin jacket on. Nothing. But the point is that you really do enjoy it and you're not shy about it. No. No.

Love it. You're like, this is what I like. I like, give me a name of an obscure designer that you really love his work. That you really love his work. Mark Mason. See, I think this motherfucker follows women's dresses and shit, too. Yeah, I like it all, man. I'll tell my girl what to wear or shoes.

I saw Aubrey and Whitney had on it, and Aubrey had this, or I'm sorry, Box and Burn, and Whitney had this Gucci purse. I knew what it was. I was like, that purse is sick. Oh, no. And Tony's like, what the fuck, mate? I'm like, dude, you just don't know what it is. It's sick.

Well, listen, I don't know What it is Well listen I don't know why Why did style And aesthetics Why did that become A homosexual activity Only Or female

Yeah I don't know It's weird This is why Because it is fucking shit Because sometimes People want to staple A regular shirt On the outside of a t-shirt

Pretend it's not Retard You That's not fashion How many times have you seen myself back a bunch more than 10 no okay zoolander zoolander i never saw it but i've seen clips you've never seen i heard the second one's a bummer no you gotta see zoolander with brendan you guys gotta see that shit together you gotta see that shit together

yeah totally i was watching uh a clip the other day from tropic thunder oh my god the greatest movie ever it's up there there's two things you can't do ever again after tropic thunder you can't be a white guy wearing blackface preach and you you can't say retard well yeah both of those things like simple jack is done you couldn't do simple jack again yeah but remember You never go full retard I mean that was one of the big lines in the movie You literally cannot do that today

You can't make fun of playing a person There's been like four people that have done blackface since this I mean a dude from Saturday Night Live There's a list of them No Seriously A major motion picture though no seriously a major motion picture not a major motion picture

but Saturday Night Live okay listen even if I'm wrong like exactly maybe someone did it afterwards and culturally like that is the last big moment you might be right

that other people have done it since then find out when was the last time someone wore a black face in a movie did you know what Dave Chappelle Dave Chappelle does white face all the time. That doesn't count. And Mexican face. No, that was years ago. You're talking about on the Chappelle show?

That was fucking 10 years ago. But it also doesn't count. White face is not the same as black face. Black face existed back in the Al Jolson days. You ever see that shit? You ever see like when the minstrel they put white guys on? Black dudes, yeah. You ever watch it?

No. It's crazy. You're like, what is this? Like, what? It's weird. It is fucking, look at that. God, dog. That is so racist.

Do they have to have white lips? Does that make it official? I don't think you can put paint on those. Because without the white lips, he looks just like a regular black guy. They just made his lips look bigger. I mean, that's the whole idea. Oh, yeah. Really?

That's what the white does? 100%. Yeah. They're trying to make him have exaggerated looking lips, because in contrast to the black, it looks like lips. Just like when a girl puts lipstick and she outlines it outside of her lips, makes her lips look bigger. That's exactly what these people are doing.

So this is what they did, and they wouldn't let black people in the movies. Black people couldn't be the star of a movie. They had to be a white guy playing a black guy in blackface. Did you see Sean White dress up as Simple Jack and got roasted for it? Yep. Come on. Sean White?

Who's that? Olympic snowboarder? Monster. Gold medalist. X Games. The Flying Tomato. You know what's crazy? Hyper sensitive.

These days, you can't talk about shit no more but the gender thing isn't there like 60 some genders they're supposed to be a bunch of different gender pronouns like 60 right yeah but they don't they're not saying there's 60 genders but what they are saying is they should have the right to dictate what pronoun that you use. Instead of him or her, they want like zur or z. They make up a bunch of these wacky. But how many are there really? There's man, woman.

Man, dude born as man, but woman inside. Woman born woman, but man inside. Right. And then the fifth one might be man who feels like he's man and woman. And maybe there's six or seven. How many are there total? They don't associate with that, though. Some of them say they don't associate with that.

And then there's asexual, that's seven. One guy who doesn't think he's a guy or a girl. Isn't pan, you just love to fuck? Pansexual? Pan, you just fuck whatever. It's all good. Pansexual? Pan you just fuck whatever. It's all good. Oh, pan is pansexual. Is there like Monday through Friday, I'm a fucking dude.

Saturday, Saturday night, I'm a fucking chick. Yes, gender fluid. Yeah, they go back and forth. I don't know why we give a fuck. Dude, there was a whole Radio Lab podcast. Do what the fuck you want. There was a whole Radio Lab podcast about it. And I was laughing my ass off when i

was listening to it because there's parts of it that are so preposterous because there was a guy who would just decide while he's talking that he's a girl and because this is like a super progressive show because radio lab is this like really well made really high yeah it's great fucking super well edited they they connect they literally can't say this guy might have some problems with his perceptions of reality this might not just be a gender thing or maybe it is a gender thing but you have to have both options on the table like this guy might be

fucking crazy and the guy was a man then you just go oh I just flipped I just flipped I'm the woman now and he goes back he's the man again I like that I would do that but you can't when it comes to gender here's the thing you can't have these thoughts

you can't question because I don't know I'm not him maybe that's a thing maybe you do just flip back and forth from feeling like you're a guy or feeling like you're a girl or maybe that's crazy that's possible too it might be fucking crazy there might be some

kind of delusion that's involved mental sickness again maybe or but the thing is if he wants to do that i don't give a flying shit but don't get mad at me if i don't call you the right prone and if i don't call you him or at the right time i don't know if he did get mad or she got mad depending on who she was what percentage is there a high rate of suicide for people, for dudes that chop their dicks off? Transgender? Right.

50%. I think whether or not they go through the operation, there's still a very high rate of suicide. Yeah, transgender is 50%. But you would think though, you cut off your dick, you should be on suicide watch, right?

I mean, that's huge. It's huge, but I don't think it's a fact to them that they regret cutting their dicks off, but the hormones. I think that's what fucks with their brain. Because then you're messing with the biological system of your body, right? Chemistry, all that. Hormones, nightmare. If you're a man, but you feel like a woman inside, I'd say just keep your dick. You know what I mean?

You chop it off, you're going to lose all those orgasms. Might as well have orgasms. Some do. You can't have orgasms if you chop your dick off. Some do. You go on YouPorn and see some chicks with tits with fat dicks. I don't think so. Like fat ass dicks.

They keep their dicks. They keep their dicks. They keep them because that's their pleasure path. Keep them. Keep them. You're going to get rid of your orgasm? Unless you're born with a deformed dick. Oh, my God, dude.

We're missing the craziest girl TKO of all time. This girl is getting smashed. Barber. Doing some cutting. Barber is dropping some horrific bombs down. Oh, my God. These girls are... Oh, my God.

Big elbow. This referee is... God damn. Ref, get in there. It's over, kid. Damn. She got blasted. Damn, that referee let her take some shots.

Hey, it's a fight game. Yep. So she's getting paid for it. Goddamn. That was wild. She got blood on her... Powerful on it shirt. Powerful on it.

Nice, man. Shout out in the audience. Shout out. Oh, I see Birdman back there, too. What were we just saying? Remember Birdman? What were we just saying? We wereman? What were we just saying? We were talking about chicks with dicks and if they cut off their dicks.

Don't cut it off. No, keep it. Keep it. It's fun. Yeah. Mix it up. There's plenty of dudes that will suck it. You know what I mean?

Probably, yeah. That's probably a big number. Go to Germany. You don't need to go to Germany. West Hollywood up the street. But the question is, do they get suicidal because they're not accepted early in life I think the real question because this is what a lot of the thought is is that they develop their self-esteem when they're very young and what they're you

very young and they're a boy and they wish they were a girl and then they get picked on for that or they get fucked with for that that becomes like this very um very awful connection with this terrible memory and this terrible feeling that you feel around people who who hate you just because you're different and then depression you are as an adult and then who knows what else comes into play there right um you know alcohol but also hate crimes on transgenders through the fucking roof man yeah yeah like even uh uh kristin beck who's a former navy seal and now she you know she's a woman she takes hormones off but i don't think she doesn't chop her dick off we're talking about a navy seal killed a ton of fucking people she was saying she was walking on the street and some

guys came up behind her hit her over the head with a bottle just for being transgender. Oh, Jesus Christ. Knocked her out on the street. Jesus Christ. Fucking terrible, man. Yeah. Yeah, man, there's just a lot of people that are developed in a really fucked up way. They've just seen too many awful things. Bad childhood and drugs. If you think about all the people in this country right now that are growing up in horrible

neighborhoods and what's going to happen out of them. What's going to happen to these people when you read these stories about Chicago and parts of the south side of Chicago where they're just shootings like 100 in a weekend, that kind of crazy shit. You know, if you lived in a place like that, like someone was, there was a comic who said something, I apologize, I forgot who it was, who said something like this on Twitter

about how you get, he's a black comic too, he was saying that PTSD is not just for soldiers. Like you get it when you grow up in the hood. Oh, that makes sense. You see a lot of shit that you shouldn't see. You see you're around a lot of violence around a lot of you're gonna grow up with a different perspective and you can grow up a little fucking shell-shocked and um i mean that's that's a crazy way to develop you you know, super crazy. Well, thank God for all these pills that you could take. I don't know if those are the answer.

Are they, aren't they? But are they the answer for some people? Sometime? I think, yeah, some people are on hanging on by a thread. They're hanging out on by a thread and someone comes along and they offer them a chemical escape from the,

the, just the fucking sheer misery of being alive. And then it puts them in a place where they can think about things. Does it? Where they can think about it? Because when you hear like Neil Brennan, one of the fucking most brilliant comedian minds out there, right? Wrote for the Chappelle Show, brilliant comic, has a special on Netflix, three mics. Brilliant. And he talks about how when he takes those pills, the prescriptions, he doesn't get high, he doesn't get low. It's just he's going through it.

You talked about his accomplishments. He's like, yeah, it does nothing. Like I don't feel anything. Like I don't feel anything. Man, that's terrible. It's a weird way to go. Well, depression, again, like what we were talking about earlier, it's on a spectrum. Just like mental illness, just like all kinds of other different things that occur in people.

Yeah, because everyone deals with depression. We've all been depressed, but some people it sticks. Like you can't get out of it. How about an anti-conspiracy theory pill? You could take a blue pill. Like on the weekends, you don't want to think about false flags or nothing. You just go out and just have fun and enjoy the moment. Dude, Ari Shaffir used, this is why I have this opinion on this.

Ari Shaffir used antidepressants correctly. And he had to try a couple different kinds and figure out which one really worked for him. But once he did, it helped him. I saw it help him. And he's a happy guy. He turned his life around. He got on the antidepressants, and he talks about this openly. He got successful too, though, right?

He got successful as well. Is he still on them? But who knows what came first, the chicken or the egg? No, he weaned himself off of them. But he got on them, and they helped him. Why did he have to wean himself off if they helped because he didn't think that he needed him anymore he thought that he was leaning on them as a crutch and he would kind of reset his mind and change your way of thinking

yeah yeah and he you know he and i talked about it i'm um i'm trying to remember exactly how he put it but essentially it was what he was saying, I got another one of these Olympias. That Olympia. Yeah, that tasty-ass Olympia. Shit's delicious. There's something about beer in a can. I don't know what it is. My mouth was watering like a crackhead.

Yeah, beer in a can. Yeah, but with Ari, it's like success to make you happy. Like, yeah, fuck, I'm killing it, man. For sure. Ari's killing it. He's killing it. And I'm sure that had something to do with it. Like, oh, fuck, I'm killing it, man. For sure. Ari's killing it. He's killing it. And I'm sure that had something to do with it. So maybe.

But I think that can't be discounted. But I think there's a lot of things going on. Depression is like a lot of other things. You can't. It's hard to narrow things down, plus or minus, and thinking that it's one thing that's causing you to be happy or one thing that's causing you to be sad. It's very likely there's a bunch of different shit going on yeah you gotta you gotta remind yourself every day of

how lucky you are it's tough it's fucking tough it's almost unrealistic not really you could do it it's just like working out you know what I mean it's the same thing you could put yourself an hour hour and a half thinking one way I'm'm going to work out.

I'm going to I'm going to fucking focus on on getting stronger today. Focus on the reps and all the sets in my routine. You apply that to, you know, just for 15 minutes. Just think about all the shit you've accomplished. Think about the money you have. Think about how lucky you are that you don't live in fucking Liberia or Guatemala or some shit. You could be in that caravan right now with a backpack throwing rocks.

You know what I mean? And that's the real shit though. That's not an illusion. The real shit is that you should be thankful. The fake shit is not being thankful. That's the fake shit. That's the illusion. You're so caught up in your daily life, stuff like that but you know what i mean you know how quickly

you would appreciate your life if you got framed for murder right now just right now all of a sudden your life would be i had a little bit of scare i had a scare with my son and it was like nothing else mattered you know exactly what's that happen i was like right away take my career take this purple fucking portion whatever you want man just make him make it i was like, dude, take my career. Take this purple fucking Porsche. Whatever you want, man. Just make him. You have a purple Porsche for real? Yeah. I'm like, please make sure he's okay.

I don't give a shit. Damn, of course. Like, if you found out you had five minutes to live, all you would think about is your kid. That's all you would think about. Well, I just got evacuated. I got evacuated from my house because of the fires. Yeah, you're in the thick of it. They're everywhere.

Especially where you're at, brother. They're everywhere. They evacuated like Thousand Oaks, and they evacuated places in Westlake. Malibu, Segura's out. Apparently, this fire that we have here is nothing in comparison to the fire that's in upstate. What? That's further up. The Northern California fire is supposed to be even more severe.

They were saying the Northern California fire was moving at, what was the number? It was something insane, like 80 football fields a minute. Wasn't that what he was saying? Holy shit. They already labeled it the biggest fire in California ever. The biggest fire in California ever. Going on right now in Northern California? It's in Northern California.

You know what's crazy is how damaged cars are getting. They're like- Melting. The cars are melting. The videos are insane of people driving through there. I saw a video of this bus. This bus that looked like it was bombed. How are fires doing that?

Do we know how it started? I don't know, man. It's always the worst when it's like some fucking asshole started it. I don't know. I don't know if they know yet. Some prick. I don't know if they know yet. Direct prick. I don't know if they know yet. Direct energy weapons.

God. It happened right outside of Rocketdyne. That's where it happened, which is like a rocket factory. Have you seen those pictures of the cars with their rims are melted? Yeah. How hot do forest fires get? They get hot as fuck. How is steel melting?

A lot of aluminum. It's a lot of aluminum wheels. The frame doesn't melt, which is steel. It's so goddamn weird. A lot of people have aluminum wheels, right? 100%. Yeah. Halloween?

Regular fire melts aluminum? Just a regular fire will melt aluminum? You think it's something else, Eddie? Your tires are going to light up. You know me, dude. You're asking me? You're asking me. Do I think it's something else? Think about who you're talking to right now. You know me, dude. You asking me? You asking me? Do I think it's something else?

Think about who you're talking to right now. Think about who this is. You got a couple factors here that I would just take into account not being a fire expert. But one of them I think would be tires. Tires are super flammable. Once your tires catch fire, they're all made out of rubber and all kinds of other plastics and shit like that. That's a whole fire.

Tires are flammable? They hold the fire there. They're not just fucking flammable. They go black smoke. It's a crazy smoke. That's whyammable? They hold the fire there. They're not just fucking flammable. They go black smoke. It's a crazy smoke. That's why the cartel use them when they kill people. They put them in because it fucking keeps them. Don't they douse them with lighter fluid and that kind of shit?

I don't know how they do it. The other thing I was going to say is gasoline. Cars are fueled by gasoline. You got gasoline there. You got fire. You got insane heat. The whole car gets engulfed the gas tank erupts you got fucking temperatures that are like it's like basically having an inferno right there it's

not like it's not a fire like oh a fucking phone book caught on fire and it melted a wheel no it's like a giant combustion engine that works on gasoline and has these rubber super flammable tires and is covered by a plastic paint that's probably super fucking flammable. And this shit all gets hit with fire that's coming from

50 mile an hour winds. They're fire machines. And then what about the registration? What? I'm just trying to be funny. I'm sorry. I thought you were serious. Look at these cars.

These cars got murked. This is like what happened when the Hulk met Loki on the Avengers. How did the windows get broken? They fucking destroyed, Eddie. The heat makes them shatter. They fall apart. If you ever get a glass too hot, you ever have a glass get too hot? Fuck no. If you pour tea

in a regular glass, they crack. So that's not even that hot. Because the tea makes them expand. The heat from the tea. You're not buying it, huh, Eddie? I don't know, man. These fires are weird. This is what I would suggest. Don't look into it.

Yeah. Don't look into it. I don't trust shit. You know me. Are you affected by the fires that are on the roof? If CNN, if the headline says anything. I don't believe it. Any CNN.

Anything. That's true, Eddie. That's true, Eddie. But here's the beautiful thing about this fire. You can fucking see it. You don't have to wonder whether or not it's a thing. No, I'm not saying there's no fire. I'm just saying like how it started. But this is what we. But here's the beautiful thing about this fire. You can fucking see it. You don't have to wonder whether or not it's a thing. No, I'm not saying there's no fire. I'm just saying like-

How it started? But this is what we're talking about. We're talking about this fire, okay? No, there's a fire for sure. There's a giant fire. I see the smoke. So what do you think is happening? I don't know.

There's some crazy people out there saying that they're being started by some fucking direct energy weapons. I don't know. That's what the crazy people are saying. Well, fires happen all the time, though. It's kind of a natural occurrence. What's more likely? That fires are happening like they always fucking happen.

From electric boxes going out or wires going down. Campfires. People being assholes with cigarettes. That's how firefighters, before there was Illuminati, before there was anything, there was forest fires. They've been around forever. This is not like a new occurrence. It's not like they're using this secret energy weapon to do some shit that's never been done before. How dumb would their super energy weapon if they used it to start fires?

There's just a lot of weird shit out there. Like houses, like you can see house, house, house, completely leveled. And all the trees around them, nothing wrong with the trees at all weird just weird shit like that well it's probably easier for the fire to make fucking houses go up in flames because it's all dry old shit

it's a dry old wood you got dry old shit on the tiles a lot of times these people have these roofing tiles and the embers get in between there. It goes right into the tar. It burns it. It goes right through your – my next-door neighbor, his roof was on fire.

His house is fucked. We don't need no water. We don't need no – done. No, they got to it in time. The firefighters caught it. Actually, my friend Bud caught it, told the firefighters. Shout-out to Bud. Bud?

Bud Brutsman? Shout-out to Bud Brutsman, yeah. His house? No, no, no. It wasn't his firefighters. Shout out to Bud. Bud Brutzman? Yeah. His house? No, no, no. It wasn't his house. But it was my neighbor's house. So when this was all going down, this is happening all throughout, not just here, but all throughout Topanga now and Malibu.

And these embers fall from the sky and then they light everything up in flames because everywhere you look, everything is dry as fuck. It's dry as shit right now. We haven't had any rain in a long ass time. If you go running in the trails, it's just dust. You're kicking up dust. You start coughing. And then you got the winds.

All the grass. That spreads all of it. Everything's brown and dried out. It's science, Eddie. And when these embers fall from the sky and hit this shit, it just starts. We're just lucky it doesn't happen more often in fact though it happened this time last year around here because we had we had ash out in the the gym area we had to sweep the ash out because it had actually come in through cracks like little tiny cracks dude i've asked all the way in my house from from this fire all the way

where i'm at i'm sure i'm sure it's no sure. It's no joke, dude. This fire is massive. So I don't think it's an energy wave. But I do think it's fucking super dangerous to live in a climate where there's this much vegetation and not enough moisture. Like, how come we can't figure out how to get that fucking water out of the ocean and start spraying it all over the plants? There's so much water in the ocean, bro. There's so much water. You're not using it at all. You know what?

There's salt in it. We can't fuck with it. We can't fuck with that salt. I feel like they can take the salt down. We still can't fuck with the salt. No, no, no. They have desalination plants. They're just super expensive.

Yeah, it's too expensive. We can't afford that. They say the almond. The almond factory. If we had more money, we'd be able to do that. But it's too expensive. Do the almond plants want the ocean water?

No, they use all our water. If we got rid of almonds in California, it would be straight. Whoa. Yeah, but the almonds, bro. Vegans consumed more almonds, and then they were- They're the reason why. They're the reason why. Imagine how ironic that would be.

If there was almonds that were doing us in the whole time. It's not cattle raising. It's fucking almonds. Is there a country rich enough to filter the salt out of water and use the water for their country? It's just too expensive, right? I bet Dubai could do that shit.

No, they don't have that much money. We do it tomorrow. No, it's too expensive. You know how hard it is. They would roll out a carpet made of gold that you would slide on a gold surfboard Sipping that fucking salt Like for the Navy

There's like a survivor filter That you could drink the seawater And you could suck And it's like this filter I don't know about that for seawater You can drink piss They have those things for ponds They're called Steri-Pens

They just can't figure out seawater. They just can't figure that out. What's the high salt content? Too expensive. You can't have that much salt content in your water. It's a shitload of salt. What if we have a salt water tax? You know what I mean?

We're running out of water. We got to figure out how to take the salt out of the seawater. I don't think this is a tax. Eddie, we have plenty of fresh water, though. I don't think this is a... Eddie, we have plenty of fresh water, though. I don't think this is a conspiracy. No, but you just said, how come they can't just take the fucking ocean water and... But I was just being funny.

I'll tell you why they can't. It's fucking super expensive. It's too expensive. It's too expensive. That's what I'm saying. It's too expensive. Well, it would cost so much money to change the water and to do it all the time for all the people.

Just pull that water out and then who owns it? Maybe if we bring some coke in from Central America and we generate income that way. Imagine if we started sucking all the stuff out of the ocean and the ocean started pushing back and the people started building houses in front of the people's houses in Malibu. At first they would protest. At first they would go, fuck you. We have the beach. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's not the beach anymore. So basically just got an acre

Mile just keep sucking water out. Yeah, imagine There's like a mile to the beach now and you know all these Malibu people to show up at the fucking County board meetings They're gonna stop pulling the water out of the ocean. He turned around behind him. It's a goddamn tropical jungle We got monkeys in LA and fucking parrots and shit. I'm not mad at it, man. We turn it into the tropics. We make it moist and delicious. That would happen. Darius is a beast. I'm gonna do a fight

real quick. Darius is a monster. Yeah, he is a beast. He's just falling on hard times a little bit. He was ranked fucking high for a while. He's a very good fighter. Yeah, he's so good at everything, man. Everything. He's very good on the ground. He had some tough matchups.

He had a tough loss, right? His last fight. Yeah, he's fallen on some hard times. Who stopped him? He lost to Michael Johnson recently, but I forget who his last loss was. Jamie, can you pull up Benil Darius's black belt on the ground? Amazing fucking striking. I do not know much about this uh the guy he's fighting me neither

does that how you say his name Moises oh Tiago Moises he's from ATT he fought in EBI combat jiu-jitsu oh no shit how good is he uh it was hard to tell from one match uh but he's a black belt he's from American top team so he's got to be a fucking beast. Look at that. A guillotine right there. It was the- Jairus is a black belt. Look at that. He jumped right into a guillotine. Look at that.

It's tight. That's a deep one. Oh, shit. That was going to be tough to submit. Wow. That was tight, though. He got KO'd by Edson Barboza. That's what we're thinking about.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking about. He got KO'd by a flying knee knee and then Alexander Hernandez in his last fight KO'd him with punches. But he's beat some good guys like James Vick. He knocked out. Oh, shit. Arm bar.

Look at that. Tiago Moises. Wow. He's going for it. He's going for it. It's going to be fucking tough to submit him. It's going to be,

but man, I think Chiesa took his back and strangled him. Yeah. Didn't he? Dude, I loved Chiesa at 70. Yeah, he did. He did, right?

Yeah. Chiesa at 70 is going to be trouble for people. I think he just was killing himself making that weight. He's too big for 55. Yeah. I love him. Whenever I'm hanging around him, he's a wide fella. He's a sturdy fella.

Big dude. Big frame. He's going to be really good at 70. He's going to give guys problems. You know, I was doing commentary with Paul Felder, you know, and I'm standing next to Paul Felder and I'm thinking, how the fuck are you 155 pounds? That's nuts. That is ridiculous.

That's nuts. You're not 155 pounds. He gets mad, too. People say, this guy over here, he's 200 pounds. Hey, hey, hey. I was 192 last Tuesday. Oh, my bad. He'll get upset.

That's hilarious. If you try to gain an extra eight or 10 pounds on him, he's just a big lightweight. He's a big boy. He's a powerhouse. Dude, and think about it. That was Mike Perry's last fight, last win. Mike Perry kind of outclass on him. He's just a big lightweight. He's a big boy. He's a powerhouse. And think about it, that was Mike Perry's last fight, last win. Mike Perry kind of outclassed him. Well, what happened was he

bounced his forearm off of Mike Perry's head early on in the fight. He spinning backfisted him and hit him with this part of the forearm right in the forehead and snapped his arm in half. Broke his arm? So he's fighting with one arm. And he fought like that for three rounds. Jesus. But he couldn't wrestle, okay? So he's fighting with one arm. And he fought like that for three rounds. Jesus.

But he couldn't wrestle, okay? So he couldn't shoot takedowns or do anything with his right arm. He punched him with it a bunch of times, even though it was still broken. And he was trying to punch with his leg. It was in fucking agony. It's not just about power, right? It's about knowing that this shit doesn't work anymore. And you're going to try to pretend.

Can't grapple either. And you've got a guy trying to rip your head off. Mike Perry's a monster. And Mike Perry's a super strong 170. He's a beast. He's super aggressive. He comes at you real hard. He takes a tremendous shot. He's got a fucking iron chin and horrifying

knockout power. It's a tough matchup for Cowboys. The Jake Kellenberger elbow, that elbow he killed him with. You're like, Jesus. He's got real power. Another guillotine. Paul Felder was kind of Mike Perry's first win where he's technical and stayed on the outside. Hanging on that neck. Yeah.

And then before that, though, Alan Joban beat him with super technical. Well, I think the move to Jackson's had a giant impact on him. Because what I saw in his last fight, I saw him manage distance much better and pace. He wasn't just like a marauding psycho going after you. Throwing feints. He's mixing it up. He was not just mixing it up. It was like very good footwork as well.

It was very technical. So I think he's adding a lot more technique and strategy to what he already had, which is like serious power and serious aggression. And he had skills already. It's not like he couldn't punch. It's not like he couldn't, you know, stuff take downs. No, but he was kind of one-dimensional a little bit but just so wild so reckless and so so hungry to fuck you up which i beat a lot of guys to get to a certain level right and they can deal with it but

kudos to him for recognizing oh brilliant yeah making some adjustments and i think he definitely did make an adjustment in that felder fight he looked amazing so it was on him he made the adjustment um and he obviously put in the work and looked amazing. So it was on him, he made the adjustment, and he obviously put in the work and looked great, and it was also on Felder breaking his arm pretty early on in the fight. With one arm? But even before he broke his arm, Perry was getting the better of the exchanges.

He was more dangerous. It was like there was more consequences. He's a fucking scary knockout artist. Stylistic-wise for Cowboy, it's a tough fight, man. Well, we both think that Cowboy's at his best when he doesn't have to fight guys that are that much bigger than him. A real aggressive guy's tough for Cowboy. I would rather see him at 155 than see him fight Darren Till again.

There's something about seeing him with Darren Darren till we see how big Darren is at 170 he's fucking big man. He's big even talked about going to 85 and he's going 85 now and you look at him You went back boy. He changed his mind again Yeah, he's like I think I'm gonna go back to 70 cuz he was gonna fight ask her in at 70 I don't think they gave ask her in Robbie Lawler. Oh Well both fights I love but you know you know, that guy's just so... He was so much bigger than Cowboy. He was so much bigger.

Way bigger. When you looked at him in there, I mean, he looked like he was two weight classes bigger. At least one weight class bigger. At least on the upper end of the next weight class. Lawler makes sense. What are you talking about? Fuck yeah. How does it not make sense?

You don't think it makes sense? No, it doesn't make sense. He's going to be hard to take down, and he's fucking vicious with his friends. Hold on. That's a perfect fight. So the night of the fight, I dig it. But the thing that makes Ben Astrid special, too, is his mouth, his mind game. So Robbie's not going to play that game.

He doesn't have a dance partner. That's what makes it great, is that he can't. What is he going to do? This is the fashion lover in you talking. No, no. Hold on. No, this is the Dana White in me do? This is the fashion lover in you talking. No, no. Hold up. No. This is the Dana White in me talking.

This is the moneymaker in me. Your boy's the exact same way. Let me hear. Because if you give Ben Askren, who can talk fucking right up there with the best we got, man. If you give him a guy, you name anybody. You give him anyone in the fight game, and he goes back and forth. It's going to be great.

You give him Colby Cometon, who's a shit talker. Yes. The fans are going to be able to gravitate towards that and see the story. That could happen later, though. This is the first fight. This is the first fight.

This is only one fight. It's a big fight, but Robbie Lawler is a great matchup. Physically, the shit talking aside, you're right with the shit talking, for sure.

X's and O's, amazing fight night. Love the fight. The physicality of the fight, is that a word? Probably. Is that a word? Probably. Is that a word? I'll tell you.

Jamie, you got a name, right? Physicality? That's a word. Yeah, it seems right. Come on, man. That's the perfect. Hold on. It's not going to be easy for Ben.

That's going to be a hard fight for Ben. Every fight is easy for him. He just grabs everybody and fucking manhandles them. Except for the Russian guy. I'm saying to take full advantage of what Ben Askren brings to the table, Robbie Law is not the matchup I'd give him off the bat. I would've gave him

a Darren Till or a Colby Covington, something like that, who will verbally go back and forth with him. You gotta build up to that. Ben Askren's been in the game too long. But the night of the fight? Amazing fight. I don't think, I think you just want to see the fight. I don't think we should ever make decisions based on shit talking and encouraging shit talking. I think what's interesting about Ben Askren is Ben Askren.

I want to see what the fuck he can do to a real former world champion who's fought at the highest level. That's a great matchup. We're the great matchup. I'm with you guys. I don't want to hear any nonsense about whether he talks back. No one's going to give a shit. That's a great matchup I'm with you guys I love Robbie Lawler I think Robbie Lawler's a legend Whether he talks back, no one's going to give a shit Look, Ben Askren when he was at the UFC That's not the world we live in, Joe

Ben Askren when he was at the UFC, they put a camera on him And the crowd went nuts He hasn't even fought in the UFC yet Everybody knows about him from the internet A lot of people know about him from you and me And a lot of people know about him from Bellator fans And 1FC fans. I think people didn't realize

how fucking popular he is. And how people want to see what an undefeated, undefeated wrestler who dominated guys like Lima and Koroshkov and Bellator still hasn't lost. Don't you want to see what the fuck that guy can do? And if you don't want to see what that guy

can do against the fucking ruthless one, Robbie Lawler. Robbie Lawler's not done, man. No, he's not done. He's a legend, man. He's a legend. Robbie Lawler is fucking scary. He's always scary, man.

He's had multiple periods in his career. He had the Strikeforce period. He had the UFC period. He had the championship period. He had his younger wild days in Hawaii. He's fallen on some hard times lately. He's not the greatest. Robbie Lawler is not the greatest wrestler of all

time, but he did wrestle growing up. The equalizer is his fucking hands, dude. With the wrestling, you could say he's right in there. Decent wrestler, but's fucking hands, dude. Ben Askren takes down anybody in the UFC.

Maybe, maybe, maybe, but finding out is going to be entertaining as fuck. Dude, again, I think you guys are coming at me like I don't think it's a great fight. I'd love the fight. No, no, we're not. I just went, ah, man, I would have given Colby Cometon. That's coming. That's coming. This is after the first UFC fight.

He's a fucking two-time world champ. Or Robbie Lawler gets Colby Covington if he wins. True. That's a great way for Robbie to get back into the mix. And plus, you don't want to make it easy on Ben Ashkin because everyone's going, yeah, this two out of the UFC organization champ. Let's see what he's made of. Robbie Lawler's a tough fucking test.

Good takedown defense. Knockout artist. It gives Robbie an opportunity to reset, too, if Robbie can beat him. You know, Robbie didn't have a good fight with Rafael Dos Anjos, but he did have a good fight with Cowboy, right? Those were the last two fights he had, I believe. Am I right about that? Was it Dos Anjos and Cowboy? He lost to Dos Anjos, right?

He lost to Dos Anjos with a great dos anjos right has askren fought anybody at lawler's level no no right no way right lima douglas lima but that was a younger lima lima didn't wrestle yes growing up it was a younger lima so i'm not the same younger lima korshkov's a fucking monster but he's but both those guys, he dominated them so hard. They were young. He was a beast, though. But Lawler brings in wrestling and ferocious striking. Also, competition at the highest level. Yes.

He's not a world champion in the UFC. I mean, he fought warriors. He fought some of the best of the best. I mean, he's one of the best of the best. I'm interested to see if Askin can talk shit on that. Multiple times. Can he? What'd you say? Is there something about Law see if Askin can talk shit on that. Multiple times. Can he? What'd you say?

Is there something about Lawler that Askin can talk shit about? No. What can you say? Nothing. Nothing. There's a few guys you can't talk shit about. It's freaking Robbie Lawler, Dan Henderson, Matt Hughes. Like, you just can't.

Remember, people thought- There's nothing there. Before Tyron Woodley beat him, people thought he was the boogeyman. Who? Robbie Lawler. He used to get the shit out of people. I'll never forget Dana White at the Comedy Store in 2002 or 2003. We're at the parking lot, and Dana White went to see you, and he's raving about this new kid.

Oh, my God, I got this new kid, Robbie Lawler. He's ferocious. He's a wrestler who's just knocking everybody out on the local level. You're going to hear a lot about Robbie Lawler. I'll never forget that. Robbie Lawler, he's ferocious. He's a wrestler who's just knocking everybody out on the local level. You're going to hear a lot about Robbie Lawler. I'll never forget that. He's talking about a Hall of Famer. It was like 2001, 2002, something like that. Talking about a Hall of Famer, legit Hall of Famer.

Yeah, so for sure it's the toughest opponent of Ben Askren's career. Or, yeah, I would say it's the toughest. For sure it's the toughest. I have to be totally honest. I have to be totally honest. I never watched his fights in one FC. I never figured out how to do it. Ben's?

He had a hard time with a Russian wrestler. Yeah, he did. There was one guy... What's the best way? I mean, if you get him on YouTube... I just saw highlights. I saw highlights too. I didn't watch one FC either. All I saw was Ben, as soon as he puts his hands on people,

something's up. He has bionic hands or something. Because as soon as he's able to get his hands on, he just doesn't let go. And I'm not going to say names. And he just pulls you down. I'm not going to say names. But he does that. He's like a giant Khabib. He does that to everybody.

And guys we know that are good grapplers. I mean, everybody. Yeah, that's exactly what I hear. He's a bigger Khabib. Which is why you and I both, we went on like a goddamn campaign to get that motherfucker in the UFC. It worked. It worked.

How long did it take? I know. I love that guy. Having him on the podcast was great, too, because people could get to see who he actually is. You know, because you hear him talk in these little shit-talking blurbs. That's not real. And you think, like, is this guy an asshole?

Like, who is this guy? But then you sit with him for an hour, and he's fun. He's fucking smart as shit. Really well educated. Looks like a Greek statue. Right? Doesn't he? He's got extra chin. He can take a shot like no one, man.

He takes fucking knees when he shoots and gets clipped with knees. Not good enough. Who are the greatest fighters? There's a couple others that you used to campaign for. The greatest fighters that never fought in the UFC. Ben Askren is one. Who's the other one?

Fedor was a big one. Fedor was a big one. Here's another one. A black guy. A black guy? Black guy who's never fought in the UFC. Not Saab. Who you campaigned for for 10 fucking years.

Melvin? Melvin Manhoef. Oh, yeah. But Melvin wasn't really fighting that much MMA outside of pride rules, right? Like, he fought anywhere else? He fought Bellator in MMA. You know what? He's the kind of guy that's going to fucking knock you into another dimension or he's going to get choked out.

You know what I mean? But either way, you bring him in. Why didn't that ever happen? Dude, his fight with Robbie Waller. How come we never got Melvin into the UFC? Because you wanted him in. Is that what it was? No.

Once you suggest the fire, they're never coming in. Nah, Ben got in, bro. That's the way it was. Dana hated him. It's different now. Dana fucking hated Ben. No, Ben. Dana hated Ben. Ben who? Askin. They hated him. Didn't they talk shit online? Yes. They went back and forth. It was brilliant.

Dana blocked him on Twitter. Yes. But now he's in. I got a hold of Dana and I said he's a nice guy Yes But Now he's in I got a hold of Dana And I said He's a nice guy And I said He's a fun guy

What if they party What if they end up partying They probably will They probably will Especially if Ben becomes champ Makes him a shit load of money Which he's going to Which he's going to

Listen They're gonna be happy They made this decision How old is Ben He's not that old He's like early 30s Early 30s How old is he

32 34 He's still He's been doing it for a hot minute But he's He's not that old. He's like early 30s. Early 30s? How old is he? Oh, shit. 34? He's still fucking people up. He's been doing it for a hot minute, but he's still fucking people up for a long time. He has zero damage. He didn't take a punch in his last two fights. He hasn't taken a punch in forever. You look at the month.

It's been years. Has he ever been cracked solid? Yeah, he's been hit. Yeah, Jay Heron. He's been hit pretty hard. Jay Heron actually split decision. I remember something up. He was telling me about, I don't want to speak decision. And he, I remember there was something up. He was telling me about, I don't want to speak out of school,

so I won't even say what he said. I don't remember what he said. But there was an issue in his camp. He was also striking a lot. And he was like, what the fuck am I doing? I'm not going to go in there and do this. And then change his whole demeanor. Just like, I'm taking everybody down.

I'm not going to get hit. Floyd Mayweather style. Jay Heron, you know, he's got real talent. I mean, Jay Heron lost to some really good guys like George St. Pierre and Tyron Woodley, but Jay Heron's a tough fighter, and he's got a good mix of wrestling and grappling,

or wrestling and striking rather, and it was enough wrestling to get back up when he was stuck on the bottom or to prevent takedowns or fight him off. Looking at this, man. Here's this nice little sweep. He can actually wrestle a bit too and he hit him with a nice

punch there. So Jay Heron, look at that. Oh, shit. Turned inside kick. Dropped him with a spinning back kick. Jay Heron is a tough guy, man. Really, really tough. He wrestles all life. He's a real wrestler. And he's also got a lot of experience and had

a lot of experience striking. That was after he fought George St. Pierre, right? Wasn't it? I believe so. For sure that's after he fought. Check to see if that's correct. That's correct. Because I know Jay... That's after he fought George. So they fought after he got released from the UFC? Is that what happened? Yes. So anyway, that was like the toughest

test of his UFC career, but apparently there was another fight that he had in one FC. Now this is, I'm getting this completely secondhand and I apologize,

but I'm just, I didn't think we were going to talk about this. I didn't prepare this or anything like that, but I think someone was telling me that he fought some dude

and the fight got stopped by an eye poke, but that it was a tough fight. Was it the Russian cat? It might have been the Russian cat. Look at that. Look at this fight. Damn.

Darius just felt it. Darius got that body triangle. Oh, shit. That's tight. Oh, damn. Oh, he's going under. He's going under. He's getting close.

Oh, my goodness. I don't know if this is true. This is just my guess, and I think the first person to utilize that body triangle offensively at a high level in competition was Jean-Jacques Machado in Abu Dhabi. He was the first one. I know there's old pictures of catch wrestling with guys in body triangles from the back, but in high-level competition, recorded, historical high-level competition. Abu Dhabi, Jean-Jacques Machado fucking ran through guys putting that body triangle on the back. I remember asking him when he got back from Abu Dhabi, why were you putting a figure four lock while you were on the back?

Why not just use the regular leg hooks? And he said, man, when you're going no gi, it's so slippery. And he goes, you've got to lock in the hips and from that point on that changed my game i'm like okay i guess when i get the back that's going to be my main focus is putting a triangle body triangle on and that was 1998 99 in that area well a lot of people don't know how much well everybody knows you're a john jock black belt but a lot of people don't know how much john jo knows you're a jean-jacques black belt but a lot of people don't know how much jean-jacques style of nogi is what influenced you to come up with a lot of the positions and moves from 10th planet not only me but marcelo garcia jean-jacques machado was the first marcelo garcia of the abu dhabi uhi historical archive.

He was the first one. Because when you look at Marcelo Garcia, and no doubt, Marcelo Garcia, when you're talking about the greatest grappler of all time, Marcelo Garcia is right there in the conversation, can easily be number one. If you had to say number one, would it be Hickson? I'm going to say Marcelo Garcia, Jean-Jacques Hickson. Yeah. I'm going to say Marcelo Garcia, Jean-Jacques Hickson. Number one, Roger Gracie, Jafa Mendes, that level. But the first one in Abu Dhabi was Jean-Jacques.

When you look at what he did, he was using X guard, and he was getting the back, putting the body triangles on. The back was his shit. And then Marcelo came, and he was using X-Guard 2. I'm not taking anything away from Marcelo Garcia. Anybody that knows me knows that I've given Marcelo Garcia more props than fucking

anybody living. You don't have to explain that. What I'm saying is, Marcelo Garcia is one of the greatest of all time. And so is Jean-Jacques. They're both two of the greatest of all time. There's a lot of that group. Jean-Jacques was the first Abu Dhabi legend as far as finishing goes. When you're talking about submissions.

Because in those early Abu Dhabis, you had a bunch of wrestlers who were masters at controlling human beings without clothing. But they didn't know how to pass and they didn't know how to finish. And then on the flip side, you had Brazilians who were masters of passing the guard and finishing their opponents. But they didn't really know how to do it as well without the Gi. So you had a lot of stalemating going on and a lot of bickering and bantering back and forth about the rule set and all that. For the first couple of years, you had the jiu-jitsu guys stalemating with the wrestlers, and there's all this grease and all this sweat flying everywhere. And then enters Jean-Jacques,

and his first year in Abu Dhabi, he submits everybody and gets the gold medal. So at that point, people are like, what the fuck? This guy doesn't even have fingers on his left hand. How did he come into Abu Dhabi and tap everybody and win the gold medal? What the fuck is going on there? Is Abu Dhabi still big?

Like really big? Yeah. Yeah. We just had the trials two weeks ago. And it was the biggest trials of all time. The trials. There's like 60, 70 people in each division. Damn.

Think about that shit. Think about that shit. It's bigger than ever. Dude, just to switch complete gears. How about that shit. So it's as big as ever. Think about that shit. It's bigger than ever. Dude, just to switch complete gears, how about that bare knuckle boxing? I finally caught,

watched some of it. Did you, have you guys seen this shit? Chris Lieben just knocked out Phil Barone, right? Starch Phil Barone. Hendrix got knocked out, but I watched like,

exciting shit. Was Boss Rudin doing commentary for that? Yeah, yeah. It was pretty exciting. Is it MMA or just boxing? Just fucking boxing. Bare knuckle boxing.

And you know, you guys always talk about how you don't want gloves and shit. We dudes are getting fucked up. I like it. You should be all over that shit. Yeah, no. You should be on top of that.

Start our own league, bro. Bare knuckle boxing. Is it in the States or Russia? It was here. Listen, don't give me a job, Brendan Schaub. Dude. You leave UFC. I wish them well. I hope they do it. Anything that don't give me a job, Brendan Shaw. Dude. You leave UFC.

I wish them well. I hope they do it. Anything that Boss Rutten's attached to, I'm happy for. Dude, how about Bare Knuckle MMA? That's next, right? Well, it should be tough. It should be. We call it cock training.

How is that tough? Bare Knuckle boxing happened. How hard is it going to be to have Bare Knuckle MMA? Dude, MMA, we're just trying to stay. No tape in your throat, dude. MMA's in like a motherfucker. No tape in your throat, dude. No, MMA's in like a motherfucker. No tape in your wrists. Oh, fucking proper for anybody.

MMA's not going anywhere, so we don't have to pull it down. If you could smash your elbow into someone's eye, if you could smash your elbow across someone's nose, into their face,

into their mouth, over and over again, into their lips, into their teeth, right into their mouth guard, if you could do that their lips, into their teeth, right into their mouth. If you can do that with your elbow, why can't you punch them? Why can't you punch them just with your hands? Because if every normal person, I don't mean normal,

every casual fan turns on Fox or ESPN, whatever it's going to be on, and they see dudes with nothing on, they're just going to go, this is barbaric. We can't market this. Reebok, everyone goes, we're out. If people thought something and that something was not true, what do we do? Do we educate them? Nothing on. This is barbaric. We can't market this. Reebok, everyone goes, we're out. If people thought something and that something was not true, what do we do? Do we educate them?

Or do we go, well, nothing we can do. People just think differently. They don't know any better. You know, you teach them. So should football get rid of helmets? Yes. You really should. You know why?

They think that'd be the one thing. They should wear some kind of leather type thing. That's what they used to wear. Dude, they used to wear that. Look at that George Clooney movie. Like some kind of leather. Remember that Bulls here movie? They're all built like George Clooney and they're pro athletes. Just a bunch of white dudes. A bunch of super white

dudes with leather helmets on. Dude, I wish I could go back and just dominate. How about that? How about when white dudes ruled sports? No, no. Oh, you're talking about Babe Ruth? All that shit. Sober that? How about when white dudes ruled sports? Oh, you're talking about Babe Ruth? That motherfucker's so overrated. There wasn't one Dominican or black

dude throwing fastballs. Catch this guy! When Jim Brown showed up, have you seen those highlights, those epic runs of Jim Brown? And it's all white dudes chasing him. And dude, he's putting on moves on these white guys. They didn't know what to do with him.

Then the first black guy came in baseball and was like, what the fuck? Jim Brown. Or a Dominican. Game over. Jim Brown had some of the, you got to watch his greatest fucking runs. Oh, dude. Better than Barry Sanders and OJ Simpson. You know, he's a better lacrosse player.

Damn, dude. Yeah, he's a monster at lacrosse. Can you imagine playing lacrosse with Jim Brown? Fuck. And he's allowed to hit you with that stick, right? A little bit? Fuck yeah. Dude, he was knocking out.

He kind of hit people a little bit with that stick. Hell yeah. How does that work? How much hitting with that stick can you get away with? You can hit the arms. You just can't hit the head, but you can hit the arms. Jamie's closest to college as any of us. How hard can you hit people?

No, I played college lacrosse. You played it? Yeah, I played it. Oh, you played it? I played it, yeah. How much can you beat each other with? You can beat the shit out of each other. Your arms. That's why they have pads in the arms. You hitrosse. Oh, you played it? Yeah, I played it. Oh, you played it? Yeah, I played it, yeah. Well, how much can you beat each other with? You can beat the shit out of each other. Your arms, that's why they have pads in the arms.

You hit the arms. Oh, my God. The stick. You can literally fucking cold cut. These guys are killing each other. Oh, shit. How is this sport still around? Lacrosse?

There's no money in it. It's one of the oldest sports in the world, man. Indians started it. It looks kind of fun. It's older than basketball. Oh, my God. People get fucked up. Okay, that dude just got waylaid.

That's not illegal? Nah, man. You think it'll ever make it on Fox? That's what you do. You think it'll ever make it on Fox on a Saturday afternoon? Never. Why not? Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

You're allowed to hit each other with a stick, run into each other like that? Yeah, bro. And make the stick have contact with that guy's head? Yeah. It's hockey, but on fucking grass. It's poor man hockey. It's a great game. It's a great game.

It looks like a great game if you like concussions. It's a great game, yeah. How often do you watch it? We're watching. How often do you watch it? The first of never, Eddie. The first of never. It's not...

It's fun to play. If it's a great... If there's a game that's great, that means you watch it and you follow it. It's not great if you don't watch it and follow it. Is it great? I love it. I love it. Do you follow it?

I don't watch a ton of Jiu-Jitsu either, and Jiu-Jitsu's great. Then you don't like it. You don't like Jiu-Jitsu. You don't watch it. Is it great? I love it. I love it. Do you follow it? I don't watch a ton of Jiu-Jitsu either and Jiu-Jitsu's great. Then you don't like it. You guys are missing these chaos. You get fucked up in lacrosse, man. Oh, Jesus Christ. They're whipping their fucking stick at each other, dude. This is chaos.

You guys never seen lacrosse? You're going to sacrifice kickboxing for this? You got to follow this stuff? No, but let me tell you something. They're striking each other. This is not like just, that's a strike. They're elbow striking each other. They're not just running into each other. They're doing way worse.

They're hitting each other with the sticks, and they're KOing each other with elbows. Imagine Jim Brown. Oh, my God. Are you going to watch that? They're running into each other and smashing elbows into each other's faces. It's rough. I'm not saying it's that rough. And you got to be fucking athletic to be a midfielder, go back and forth.

The cardio, best shape I've ever been in. I'm not denying the cardio. I'm not denying the ferocity. I'm not denying the balls. You're talking about entertainment. I'm not denying the size of these guys' balls. I'm not denying that. I hear you.

I'm just saying, if you ain't following it it's okay at best. The college is the best. People say I love all music. You like mariachis? I love every style. How many mariachi CDs do you have

in your car right now? All of them. I love all music. You like polka? You'd have like a 12 disc cd changer and you push it in the car dude i had 7 000 cds in the back of my truck just all on the floor remember those disc changers like everybody if you were a ball you had a disc changer 12 disc disc changers? Six disc changers? I would go with number six, please. Fuck yeah.

I'll never forget going to the car stereo store with him. And Joe would go in and just give me the best shit. How long ago was that? Word for word. Well, once I started making television money, I just wanted to hear what the best stereo sounds like. It sounds fucking really good. Boat, didn't you say that word for word? Give me the best shit.

Yeah, we were trying to figure out what to do. The best shit. Let's do the best shit. Like, what sounds the best? What car was it in? That was a Porsche. 9-11? 9-6, twin turbo.

Yeah. And your Barracuda. Yeah, that one, too. And your Acura. Oh, yeah. NSX? All that shit. Good for you.

It makes the experience better. He had that high-level NSX back in the day. This was like fear factor days. And we were at jujitsu, and he had a bucket-handled tear, and he couldn't walk. And he goes, you've got to take me to the prolo therapy, people. And I had to drive his NSX. And I knew how to drive stick, high-performance sticks a little different animal Yeah, so we were panicking. He's fucking holding his knees. He's screaming you gotta take me to pro therapy

And I try to drive to the pro therapy doctor you the MRI. Yeah And I grinded his gears a little bit and his fucking He had steam coming out of his fucking hair follicles, dude. Hell yeah. He was holding his leg, and he's going, you motherfucker, don't grind my shit. And I'm like. I'm trying. I didn't yell at you like that. You were so mad.

Okay, but I did not yell at you like that. I know you got your artistic flair going. I'd be pissed too, though. Dude, seriously. I'll never forget that. I forget everything except special moments. And I said, yes. Do you actually know how to drive a stick?

He's like, yeah, I got you, bro. There you go. I actually lied, and I didn't. No, I didn't. You know, my first car was a Ford Pinto station wagon. That was a stick. I haven't driven a stick in a while. It was a long time. They had a Fiat. Remember those little tiny sports cars? Those two-seater Fiats? I had one of those. Those are in style now. Dude, for a month, dude, for a month, I was driving around at 19 with, those two-seater Fiat's? I had one of those. Those are in style now. Dude, for a month.

They're pretty cool, yeah. Dude, for a month, I was driving around at 19 with the little two-seater yellow Fiat going, I'm the fucking man, until it broke down like all Fiat's do. And I drove it for a month. We could never figure out how to fix that motherfucker again. Why didn't you bring it to a Fiat repairman? Dude, nobody wanted to touch that shit. It was a mid-engine.

Dude, that thing was so, like, it was a piece. Fix it again, Tony. That's what Fiat's standing for. Dude, how about. He doesn't know that. Fix it again, Tony. That's hilarious. Dude, there was one day, when that car broke down, I realized who my friends really were.

Nobody wanted to come pick me up for parties. It's exhausting, dude. And one night i started crying man like i don't really have any real friends everybody was partying everyone was going out they didn't because i lived in your house i lived in that like kind of far how far and i was the one picking uh 20 25 minutes dude that's a that's just a hassle no that's why i was crying why do you why I was crying. Why do you think I was crying?

Yeah, I mean, I love you guys. Yeah, you're cool, but 25 minutes is a long way. Trying to fuck this girl. They left. I realized how important cars were. I'll never forget when my Fiat was up on blocks in my garage and nobody could figure it out. Nobody could figure it out. Dude, how great is this?

They're doing the throwback. This is a great fight. Like the throwback logos. Isn't that dope for the 25th anniversary? Is this the first time Jermaine Durandame has fought since he won? Yes. How crazy is that? So, and then there's Raquel Pennington, who's just a beast.

Tough fight for Raquel. How crazy is this? Okay, check this out. How sexist is the UFC? Think about this. Whoa, easy. I'd say opposite, bro. I mean it in a joking way.

This is a joking way. But when Raquel Pennington fought Amanda Nunes, the one thing they had in common was they both had girlfriends that were UFC fighters. They don't touch on that. And everything was fine. Everything was cool and it should be cool. But can you imagine if there was two male fighters fighting for the belt and they both had boyfriends.

If DC and John were gay. If they were also UFC fighters. Damn. How crazy is that? We don't give a- Why is that sexist though? Because we don't let guys do that. We're okay with girls doing that.

I don't think that's what it is. The UFC wouldn't give a fuck if DC and John were gay. Come on. They wouldn't care. You think they would be okay with that? 100%. You think so? As long as they're winning fights, they don't care. But here's be okay with that? 100% You think so? As long as they're winning fights

They don't care But here's what you have to take into consideration I don't think there's been any suppression Of gay fighters in promotions There hasn't been enough promotions How weird is it? It's probably super hard For some gay guys to get acceptance in gyms

Exactly Some gyms Exactly It's gotta be a gay gym, right? It's got to be a gay gym. Or someone who runs a gym who's super open-minded. Your trainer's got to be gay. Kickboxing.

It doesn't have to be gay. He could be a guy that's just super open-minded and you could let him in. But the problem is fight culture is old culture. And that old, old culture from the boxing days and a lot of the wrestling days, old culture from the boxing days and a lot of the wrestling days. Like there's this thought of, you know, it's not the most progressive concept that, you know, gay guys. Whoa.

Holy shit, girl. Pennington. That's the right attitude. You know, there's not a sense of equality. Well, check this out. Check this out. Don't. Isn't it?

This is my theory. My theory that so there's a, there's a disproportionate amount of female lesbian fighters having success in the UFC. And this is my theory. Well, they're the best fighters. You know why? You know why? This is my theory. Is their training camps are not disruptive.

If they were heterosexual, everybody would be making moves on them. They're dietitian. No, like Ronda Rousey. Hold on. Exactly. The kickboxing trainer. Everybody's going to be trying to make moves on them. They're dietitians. No, look, Ronda Rousey. Hold on. Exactly. The kickboxing trainer. Everybody's going to be trying to make moves on them. When they're lesbian, everybody just treats them like a guy.

You're crazy. You're overthinking this. No, no, no, no. No, I think this is A factor. No, no, this is real. This is real. This may be A factor, but I don't think that's what makes them. Holly Holm.

I think there's just some women like to fight, and maybe more lesbians like to fight than straight women. They're more drawn to it. But a lot of straight women like to fight, too. I think their camps just some women like to fight, and maybe more lesbians like to fight than straight women. They're more drawn to it. But a lot of straight women like to fight, too. I think their camps are less disruptive. Because you take a girl. Okay, let's just take a girl. Probably a factor.

It looks like, let's take a UFC fighter. The best ones in history. Let's take a UFC fighter that looks as good as Paige Van Zandt. You know, she's just like that. Imagine all the dick that's going to be thrown at her every day. The diet tissue. How bad do you want it? The chiropractor.

If she was single. The kickboxing. If she was single, right. How bad do you want it, bro? Even if she's not single. Especially if she's single. Can you imagine the drama involved? Trust me.

I'm in the fucking fight game. The girls are getting... If you're a heterosexual girl And you're in the And you're hot You're in a jujitsu school It's like being a hot marine Exactly

But if you're lesbian And you're hardcore Like Amanda Nunes Guys still trying to go for it But yeah No no Dudes aren't gonna go for it They're gonna treat you like a dude

And you're gonna have A drama free Training camp And a school And you're gonna stick You're gonna stick I think it's a small You're gonna stick with the school

Look at all the lesbian fighters This is what I think with the trainers this is the best there's no history there's no drama there's no drama but this is what i think eddie cyborg what you're saying is correct amanda nunez what i'm saying what you're saying is correct what you're saying is correct but this is just a factor there's a bunch of factors she's's beautiful. Rose. Yeah, she's beautiful. Joanna. Rose, Joanna. No, no, no. I'm not saying all the top fighters are lesbian. I'm just saying there's a disproportionate amount

of top fighters that are lesbian. And I think that's because, you know, when you look at Rose Namajunas, Rose Namajunas got a gigantic gorilla boyfriend that will fucking stomp on you. Yes. Well, not me, but yeah. That's different. Can you imagine if Rose Namajunas was single?

Can you imagine all the dick that would be flying at her? She'd be dodging that shit like the Matrix. Respectfully, you're right. Right? 100%. There's less drama. Dude, because in jujitsu, not even striking or wrestling,

just in jujitsu, heterosexual girls, it's common It's common That's any field though Hold on Exactly Exactly Even women in offices

Get so much dinner That's proving my point People are way more physical You're right At an MMA gym There's way more contact With a guy and a girl At an MMA gym

Jiu Jitsu girls Jiu Jitsu girls Are Are Are More prone To switch Jiu JJitsu girls are more prone to switch Jiu-Jitsu schools than guys. She might hook up with a guy, right? Because they start dating a guy from another school and they go, you know what?

Let me go train at that school on Saturdays. They start training at the school on Saturdays. And then the guys at their school are like, well, you're training over there. But dudes don't do that. But the girls do that because they're heterosexual. I think there's a point there. There's a little bit. I'm not saying it's a be all end all.

I'm just saying. I don't think the UFC highlights Amanda Nunes enough being lesbian. She should be on fucking every poster in West Hollywood. Check this out. She's the world champ. Check this out. We don't know. We don't know.

And beat the fuck out of Raquel Pennington Who's a beast Beat the shit out of her Think about She's a monster Think about the music business She's marketable man Think about the music business There's a disproportionate amount of

Of All I would say 90% of my favorite singers Are gay I love gay singers Name a gay singer Peter fucking

I'm not even gonna say his name I don't wanna bust anybody out I'm just gonna say that we don't know about no no who knows Freddie Mercury whatever

but what I'm saying is there's a disproportionate amount of gay vocalists out there right think about that currently though and gay Broadway people I can only name one

you would think of people that perform on Broadway you'd think that at least a healthy percentage would be gay. And think about this. Not music, though. Not artists. We all know this.

We all know this. In the music industry, there's a lot of gay music producers and music executives, right? And they do creepy shit, right? Not because they're gay, just because they're guys. Because it happens to be gay. Because they're guys. Guys do creepy shit. And you're going to do creepy shit with girls? Or if creepy shit. And you're going to do creepy shit with girls?

Or if you're gay, you're going to do creepy shit with guys? Well, to use Rogan's joke. There's a disproportionate amount of gay singers out there. And how is a heterosexual singer going to compete with a gay singer? Start sucking dick. When they're ready to suck dick at the drop of a fucking hat. You know what I mean? Well, how bad do you want to be Batman to reference his joke?

So what are you saying? You're saying that happened with a lot of guys? I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying there's a lot of gay singers and there's a lot of gay... And I love gay singers. Most of my favorite singers are gay. I don't think no one's arguing.

No, no, I'm just saying there's a lot of them. There's a lot of gay singers. Let me phrase it this way. Are you saying that the same way that like if a gal was trying to get into the music business, she could potentially run into some unscrupulous males in the business who prey on young girls trying to enter into the business? Exactly. The same could be said for young guys with gay guys.

If they're gay, they're willing to suck that producer's dick. And if they're not, if they're straight, maybe it's even better. It's going to be harder. There's some straight guys who are going to do it. There's straight guys who are going to do it. There's straight guys who are going to do it. So like dudes in bands, like bass players and drummers are like, dude, we need a gay singer to get a deal up in this motherfucker. So they look for gay singers.

That's not. I don't know the music industry. Oh, shit. Look at that. Jermaine Durand, he won two. That was nasty. Durand, you know, one of the worst champions of all time, but is fucking skilled, man. Oh, dude.

Really high level stand up. Like a 14 time world champion. Some shit, man. Oh, dude, really high-level stand-up striker. Like a 14-time world champion or some shit like that. Very, very good striking, but did not want nothing to do with Cyborg. Isn't that fascinating? Literally was like, you know what? I'm good. My hand hurts. I still don't think she beat Holly. I don't think she beat Holly.

Well, here's why I agree with you. Holly clanged her with a question mark kick and dropped her. She had her stunned with that, and then she dropped her with a straight left hand. Those are two hugely significant moments in the fight. The only significant moments. Really? Well, Jermaine hit her after the bell twice.

Twice. And I think the second time you should have taken a point away because they were hurting her. The last one she landed after the bell, I think it was, was it the second round? Oh, fuck. Oh, shit. Hey, Jermaine looks like a solid fucking striker right here. Oh, she's super solid. No, world class, bro. Holy shit. Did you hear what we were saying?

She's a world champion, dude. Is she a lesbian? No, she's a multiple-time world champion. Her kickboxing is out of this world, man. She had some insane kickboxing record. Jamie, pull up her kickboxing record. I'm surprised they gave Raquel Penton this fight. Just an awful matchup for her. Raquel's a fucking beast, man.

Not when it comes to the striking game. That girl, well, she's just fighting a woman who's just way better than her. So is Amanda Nunes. Look at her fucking record. Those are all wins, son. No, world champion, dude. Yeah, dude. Kickboxer.

37-0. Holy shit. Yeah, dude. And she's lanky. She's got wide shoulders, long arms. There's no nightmare to deal with. Here's the thing, man. Here's the thing.

Why didn't she want Cyborg? Because she doesn't want to stop the fuck out. Cyborg's too big. Cyborg, she said, was a perennial. What did you call her? Steroid user or some shit. She had like a, I don't want to misquote. She was scared.

Straight up scared. Was like, you know what? I'll vacate the belt. Fuck that noise. I'm going to go back down. To paraphr. Straight up scared. Was like, you know what? I'll vacate the belt. Fuck that noise. I'm going to go back down. To paraphrase, she essentially was saying that Cyborg has cheated and that she's used steroids. I don't know what the wording was. And she said because of that, she didn't want to fight her.

At first she said her hand hurt. Then she was like, you know what? Fuck it. I just don't want this. She said she needed thumb surgery. And she brought that up immediately when I asked her about fighting Cyborg. But I think cyborg is the boogie woman to these people that's what i think i think she's so much bigger than everybody else i mean she's cutting down from 175 180 cyborg beat the shit out of him she's not 180 oh yeah she's she get up to yeah she get up she get up there bro

she's a big woman to 135 135? No, 145. 145. Dude, did you ever see her try to make 45? There's dudes who don't want to fuck with her. There's dudes who don't want to fuck with that girl. Think about how big Connor is. Connor's walking around at 170-ish, right? He used to cut down to 145. Yeah.

Just think about that now cyborg is basically somewhere in that same range. That's what's going on. Yeah, that's huge. That's a lot of weight. A lot of weight to cut. Somewhere in the 170, and maybe during the offseason, maybe she gets even heavier.

Oh, Durandamy just hit her with a fucking nasty straight left. Dude, how about the fucking Amanda Nunes cyborg fight end of December? John Jones, Gus Van Sink. I think she's too small. I think Amanda's too small.

Durandamy looks so nasty. Look how good her striking looks. Hey, listen, I gotta get out of here. I gotta Amanda's too small. Duran to me looks so nasty. Look how good her striking looks. Hey, listen. I got to get out of here. I got to go to 10th Planet 15-year anniversary party. Tonight? We got Bobby Lee's going to perform. Sam Tripoli's going to perform.

What time does it start? Steve Simone, Lee Syatt, Bobby Slayton. What time does it start? It starts at right now. Damn. Damn, bro. I got to get out of here 15 years baby

damn congrats man dude thank you man congrats brother dude you were there that first day 15 years ago god damn that's nuts man

time flies like a motherfucker it does dude dude I have so many black belts it's incredible I got today we had a

business meeting cause this weekend is the 10th planet eclipse weekend we do it every year and we have the holiday party we had a business meeting because this weekend is the 10th Planet Eclipse weekend. We do it every year. And we have the holiday party. We have a quintet, a 10 versus 10 show that was last night that was insane. I heard those quintets are amazing.

Yeah, man. And then tonight we have the party. And then tomorrow we have the 10PQ, which is the 10th Planet qualifier for the next DBI, which is the Strawweight Girls. Man. Did you get a legit business? I just, I'm just surrounded. I'm surrounded by dudes who can kill me.

Like they're all around. I'm like these motherfuckers. If they wanted to, they could just end my life right now. You've shown. No, it's pretty crazy. Your master splinter is pretty crazy.

I got fucking a bunch of turtles, insanity all around me. You know, if shit ever hits the fan, you know, you want to be hanging out with jiu-jitsu clans. That's for goddamn sure. Well, I think that jiu-jitsu people are generally more calm because they're going to war all the time. They get all that shit out of their system. They're way more chill.

They're way more relaxed. You know how if we were running out of food, how easy it would be just to put someone in a rear naked choke. And eat them? And it's like, you know what? Yep. If you don't train. Zombies?

If you don't train and you're not a doctor. If you don't know what you're doing. If you're not a doctor or some kind of MacGyver and you don't train, we're going to have to eat you. Dude, what you said before the podcast was so funny. What? About the apocalypse, that homeless people are going to be psyched because they'll be like,

ha ha, now you got to live like us. Homeless people are waiting, are waiting for the end of the world. They're digging the fires and shit? Because they're going to be running shit. They're going to be the alpha males. Because they know what they're doing? They know how to survive.

They know the spots and shit? They know exactly. Their life is not going to change. Their life is... Might get better. What's going to get crowded? Dudes in favelas. If you live in a favela,

you don't have to worry about the end of the world because it's already the end of the world for you. You know what I mean? You already got that shit mastered. Most people that are

walking around pushing shopping carts with all those plastic bags hanging off them, they're probably most likely mentally ill. Yeah, batshit crazy. We're all probably

able to fall and steal their shit. Probably MK Ultra throwaways. Probably child trafficking Throwaways It might be Some of them have to be Some of them have to be

Some throwaway Because we all know trafficking is going on And like what happens to these people You know a lot of them are veterans That's where it gets real scary A lot of them are veterans A lot of veterans come home and they don't know what the fuck to do. And, you know.

Oh, that scared me. It said Khabib McGregor, but it says now available on Fight Pass. I love you guys. Is that our house, Rick? Oh, my God. It says available on Fight Pass. I love you too, Eddie. Dude, you're the best.

Congrats, man. Congratulations. Congratulations, brother. Thank you. Yeah. I'll call you later, brother. I was sweating when you heard. All right.

See you guys. Later. Later, dude. Dude, sit over here. I'll feel weird. It's was sweating when you heard Alright see you guys Later Later dude Dude sit over here I'll feel weird Yeah it's gonna be weird right Like you're an Uber driver And I'm in the back If you're a friend

And you have an extra friend And the friend's in the front seat And that friend leaves And the friend in the back seat Stays in the back seat Like hey man You gotta get up here Fuck this dude

Damn Jermaine Durand to me Looks spooky She's so dangerous Because she doesn't do anything wrong. You know? So calculated, man. Well, it's super technical with her movements, too. And she's basically playing like a rhythm dance.

She's forcing Raquel into movements. But she has the solutions to those movements like several steps ahead. Yeah, but here's the thing, Joe. Think about how many more fights Jermaine Duronimo's been in than Raquel Penta. I mean, not even remotely close. Well, not just that. The experience factor at a high level. Pennington would have to really struggle to take her down.

She's a 145-er, and Pennington's been fighting at 135. You know, and Jermaine dropped down to 35 for this fight, right? Is this a 35 or a 45, Jamie? This is a 35. So Jermaine dropped back down to 35 after that 145-pound fight. Oh, shit, head kick. So she's super strong for the weight class. Penitent has a tough record, too, like salty 6 and 5 or something like that.

She's tough as shit, though, dude. She's as tough as they come. You know, one of my favorite finishes ever was her versus Ashley Evans-Smith because it was just this wild fucking brawl. And then she catches her in a bulldog choke and puts her unconscious for like a second to go. I think that was in the last fight in Denver, too. Was it? Because she's from Colorado Springs, so they usually put her on the Denver cards.

I think. I'm a fan. I'm a fan, too. She's just so damn tough, man. But Duranamy, I hate this matchup for after fucking Amanda Nunes. Well, it's a scary matchup because it's straight number four. Oh, just that uppercut? God damn.

It's scary because it's real similar and maybe Duran to me is even more lethal with all the different things. I'm not hating at all, but Duranami looks identical to the guy in Kickboxer that beats the fuck out of Jean-Claude Van Damme's friend. The scary dude who's kicking the walls. She's so technical. The thing about Duranami that makes her just... See, for sure, Amanda Nunes has more power, and she'll assault you,

and she's more aggressive and reckless. She comes after you. Nunes? Yes, and she's more aggressive and reckless like she comes after you anuna but yes and she's a murder more power more power her hands are just stunning speed yeah and then she's also a black belt on the ground she's a bit of a beast but i think it's the power it's the difference but durandami has the full arsenal you know what i mean like as far as her technique she's a surgeon yes that's a good way to put it. All of her striking is done so effortlessly. It's all efficiently and smooth. There's no weird moments where her hands are down, she's lunging, or her footwork's off.

Off balance, no. Never. The only time she struggled severely was against Holly Holm, who's also a world-class boxer. And tricky, because Holly's different than probably a lot of the strikers that she faced. Well, Holly's big, too. Because she faced Muay Thai people. Yes, she is big. She's very strong.

Athletic. Yeah, and she also has got sneaky shit that she does, like that question mark kick. Yeah. You know what I mean? She clanged her right off the head with that. That was a big moment because Duran to me was, in the beginning of the fight, was kind of controlling the pace, controlling the rhythm. And Holly had to find her spots. And a lot of people thought she could have won that decision.

It was real close. It's a tough spot for Durandamy where they go, all right, now you're fighting Cyborg. And she's like, fuck that, man. So then she gets stripped of the title. We all shit on her. But it must have been a tough position. Well, if she has real feelings about this and she really, oh, something happened. What happened?

Grabbing the shorts? I don't know. Something happened. Hit her in the titty? Did she go low? Did they take a cuda shot? Do you pause? Someone took a...

What happened? Jamie, what happened? Eye poke? Pussy shot? Was it? Come on. Was it grabbing? He's taking a point.

I think it was either short or fence grabbing. That guy has a hard part in his hair, by the way. Oh, it might be a fence grabbing. Fence or... No, but it seems like they're giving her a chance to recover. God damn it. I wish we were paying attention. It's tough.

Something happened. Can we rewind a bit? Oh, but then we'll fuck everybody up. Yeah. It'll be a nightmare. We'll figure it out. Well, Jeremy just apologized. I wonder what it was.

It seems like a foul. Oh, shit. Oh, strong jab. Strong jab. Oh, nice knee. Oh, fuck. But doesn't a foul. Oh, shit. Oh, strong jab. Oh, nice knee. Oh, fuck. But doesn't go lateral. Notice?

Straight back, right? Still good takedown defense, but accepting the fact that clinch is definitely going to happen. As opposed to like next stage. Almost wants the clinch. Well, almost. She's the bigger fighter. It's also the end of the third. And she's been winning all the rounds, so she's like, all right, cool, man. This is safe for me.

I'm not going to knock down here. I'll just protect myself, maybe catch my breath, and then get you off me and finish the round strong. But she's going to have a hard time getting her off. Dude, I'm nervous for these next two fights. The Yair Korean zombie one's interesting because Yair's been out for a hot fucking minute. Remember he was basically signed with Bellator. Like he was going through that whole thing where he turned down the Zabit fight. Then they go, alright, if you're not

fighting Zabit, we're going to cut you. Then he's like, alright, I'll sign with UFC. And then they're like, alright, you're fighting Zabit. Then Zabit pulls out. Dude, you see that beautiful one? Right hand, left hook, right leg kick. Dude, she's fun to watch, man. She got a bad rap because she turned down the Cyborg

stuff. Well, you know what, man? That is what it is. We've said so much about that. There's really no reason to continue to talk about it. I know, it's fucked up. When you look at the reality of who they are today, Cyborg is just way scarier than any of those girls. One of the things that makes Amanda Nunes interesting

as an opponent for Cyborg is, first of all, her last fight with Raquel Pennington. She showed a lot of movement. I think she needs a shitload of movement in this fight. She would need all the movement. She needs to be in fucking shape. She needs to be in serious shape, and she needs to be strong. Five rounds. And this is one of the things that Amanda Nunes said at the press conference.

I didn't listen to the press conference. The press conference is interesting because Cyborg was accusing her of, I think, not fighting her at a previous time. And she said she needed more time. I think they wanted to try to do those two in New York for Madison Square Garden, perhaps. They've been trying it for a while. Amanda Nunes goes, I need more time, which I actually like that. I like that, too, because she's the smaller woman coming up as the 135-pound champion, challenging the 145-pound champion. She's going to have to put some weight on.

She wants to keep it on and be comfortable with it on and hopefully get above 145 so she can cut a little. Because the reality of Cyborg is she's way bigger. She's probably walking around. How many pounds bigger would you guess than Amanda? Just naturally? Just naturally. 25, 30 probably? What did you think?

There's a number. 20s? I would like to know what that number is. At least 20 pounds. I would say it would be 20. Let's say 20 to be fair. 20 pounds heavier. It's entirely possible it would be 20.

So if Amanda Nunes is the 135-pound women's champion, what does she actually weigh? We're saying, if you think the Cyborg is, let's be generous and say it's in the 170s. Yes. And then she cuts down to 145. And we don't know, by the way. We just have read things. I would like to know. Let's see if Cyborg has ever commented on what she weighs before she starts her weight cut.

Because I know Lockhart worked with her. High 60s, right? Maybe. Let's get crazy and say it's 160. Even 160 would be a lot of weight, bigger than Amanda Nunes, wouldn't you think? 100%. What does Amanda Nunes weigh? God Amanda Nunes

50s You think she weighs 150 When she walks around normally And cuts down to 135 Don't you think 50s Maybe She's very strong

She's big girl She's rock Stocky She's jacked She's got all that back power man When she punches She fucking has the longest punches She's one of my favorites

She punches so long It's like she's hitting you Way at the end And she's hitting you Way at the end The longest punches. She's one of my favorites. She punches so long. It's like she's hitting you way at the end. And she's hitting you way at the end. And she's fucking aggressive as shit. So maybe, let's say she weighs 145, 150 at the most. Let's say 50 at the most. Cyborg could be 170.

She could be bigger than 170. I'm saying she's rolling around 60s. You think she's in the 60s? Yeah. You think she's in her 60s? Yeah. You think she's in her 60s now? Yes. Or you think she's in her 60s all the time? Do you think she gets bigger than that and then gets lean? From talking with her manager, her boyfriend.

She walks around at 185. Jesus! Used to, she said. Oh. Oh, my God. So, okay, this one, she's approaching UFC 219, which already happened, at 170. What year is this? This is at the end of last year.

Interesting. Okay, you know before I used to walk around at 180 or 85, and now I'm walking around at 170. It's very different. That's interesting. Then before, when I was heavy, I'm getting to work more and more. Okay, that makes sense. 170.

I'm getting to work more and more, getting light, but I really have to be on top of my weight now. So she's decided to stay on top of her weight so she doesn't have to go through so much of a brutal cut, which I think is very wise. 170 is still a lot of weight. That's 25 pounds. She fights at 145. She's the 145 pound champion, which means even right now she's saying she doesn't cut as much, but she cuts

25 pounds, man. That's how big she is for the division. Did Lockhart say this to me? Dolce is one of those weight cutting experts. We're saying that it's tougher for females. That the weight gets tougher and tougher because the adipose tissue and stuff like that and their hormones. Yeah, I think that was Lockhart. I don't remember.

I might just be bro science right now. We are bro science. Oh, fuck. Neither one of us know jack shit about fat content. Nothing. Especially when it comes to women. Neither one of us know jack shit about fat content. Nothing.

Especially when it comes to women. But I do think that there's also unique struggles with women when it's different times of the month. Women get bloated. They retain water. And sometimes it's hard to get that water out. I've also talked to some women I've dated in the past, women who do those competitions, who cut weight to not for fighting but for bodybuilding, where they do bikini. Their thyroids are fucked up. So then their body, it'll cut down, but then it goes, oh shit, we don't

want to do that again, so it blows up. And it's trying to protect stuff, so weight cutting for women, the higher amount of time, it gets tougher and tougher. Bro science. It is bro science. Hashtag bro science. It's also bad for everybody, man. It's not good for anybody. It's not good for anybody. That's why Cowboy at 70 I like because 55 looks so drawn out.

But then there's guys like fucking Till and Woodley. And Wonderboy is fucking huge too. And this fucking dude. You know what we're about to see. He's shorter, but he's fucking thick, man. Thick and scary. And he swings to try to kill you. Here's the thing that scares me about this fight with Cowboy.

Cowboy needs this, right? He's a bit of a fork in the road for his career. He's fighting a guy named Mike Perry who's trained with his camp. Nobody knows Cowboy better, has watched Cowboy spar more than people at Jackson's. Yeah. And Cowboy needs this. Then there's the whole thing with Mike Wiglenjohn who's cornering Perry against Cowboy. It's just a shit situation, man.

But it is for everybody. It's just highlyboy. It's just a shit situation, man. But it is for everybody. It's just highly charged. It's highly charged. But look, both guys are – it's a matchup that people want to see. It's a real crossroads matchup for both guys. I love the fight. It's a crossroads matchup because if Perry can't get past Robert or can't get past Donald Cerrone,

it puts him in this position where he's learning, he's certainly getting better, but when it comes to world-class competition, who's the most world-class guy he's faced? Before, it's Felder, and Felder's really a 155-pound guy, too. Felder's his best win. You mentioned he was hurt. Before that, Ponzinibbio, he lost that. That's an old Jake Ellenberger.

Yeah, it is. That's a wazzer Jake Ellenberger. Unfortunately, but it's still fucking stunning. The way he knocked him out, you realize that that guy has- He lost that. That's an old Jake Ellenberger. Yeah, it is. That's a way older Jake Ellenberger. Unfortunately. But it's still fucking stunning. The way he knocked him out. You realize that that guy has some. It's an older Jake Ellenberger for sure. But that elbow on the break was legit as fuck, dude. Because when you look at the guys, Alan Joban beat him, right?

So this is by far his toughest fight. I think this is his toughest fight. But also, they know each other. They've sparred together. And I think that Donald thinks he knows his tendencies and he knows what he can do with them. And, you know, I think Donald has some good times with them. They say when they grappled, Donald tuned them up.

Yeah, that's what I think, man. And that's one of the things that Mike Perry said, is that Donald's probably going to try to grab a hold of me and put me on my back and hold me down. You know, you can't discount this dude. I mean, he knocked out Matt Brown. I mean, this fucking combination that he did to Rick Story was preposterous. Oh, dude, Cowboy's one of the greats. He's just been doing it for a long, long fucking time.

And the way he did that Rick Story one, dude, he's just touching him up. He's touching him up. The scary thing about Donald is that when Donald can be the bully, he's going to fuck you up. But when someone draws a line in the sand and starts going forward on Donald, he struggles a little bit. Look at Nate Diaz fight. You know, there's some...

The guys who don't play his games, Matt Brown, that was a tough fight for him. That's true. Even though he knocked him out, that was a tough fucking fight. Matt Brown's a tough fight for anybody. Watch this. Here it is. Here's that elbow. Boom, son. I mean, he's got some fucking power, man. He looked great against Felder.

He really did. He didn't just look great because Felder hurt his arm. He looked great because he looked great. But Felder did hurt his arm. But I mean, he hurt his arm off Mike Perry's head. That spinning back fist leads to so many broken arms. Think about it. There's a lot of guys.

Yeah, you hit that forehead. And Felder and I were talking about it. He tries to kind of smash it with like a hammer fist. You try to catch a guy right at the end of it like a hammer fist. But sometimes the movement. And sometimes you hit that fucking forehead. Foreheads are so hard, man. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise because Felder's a great commentator.

So do that and quicken punch in the face. He is a great commentator, man. He's very, very good. With little experience. When we worked together, man, I was like, damn, this dude is smooth. I know. He's professional. He loves the sport.

He really does love the sport. You know he's an acting major, theater major. Yeah, he was a theater major. He's a smart guy. He's really, really good at it, man. He likes fighting. Of course. He likes it. He's fighting James Vick next, which I think is a very good fight.

James Vick is a fucking big guy. Lost his last one, like his first big step up for James Vick. Lost that one. But James Vick and Paul Felder's a great fight. It's a great fight. It's a crazy fight, right? Isn't it? Pretty crazy fight. Yeah, I mean... Big fight for James Vick. It's a big fight for both's a crazy fight, right? Isn't it? Pretty crazy fight. Yeah.

Big fight for James Vick. Well, it's a big fight for both guys. Felder just lost. It's true. Coming off loss. And the loss was like a last-minute fight. That's right. I think he only got a couple of weeks' notice. They switched it on him. Yeah, less than that, right? And he moved up to 170 for that fight instead of fighting at 155,

which I think if you're going to fight a weight class above yours and you feel like it's the time and you made the decision, that's great. You should do that. But if you're not doing that, if you plan to keep fighting at 155, to take a fight in a larger weight class is a big risk. And to take a fight against a real killer like Perry, I think it's super dangerous. Perry's dangerous because he hits like a seven-year-old. There's guys who are—

He takes it, too. He takes it, but he can hit like a fucking middleweight even. He hits fucking hard. Which is the real problem. Yeah, and he takes it. And you've got to remember, Cowboy has fought everybody, man. He's fought so many fucking people. Name a fighter, he's probably a fighter.

Shit, man. He's been fighting forever, man. And this is deep into his career. You know, this is a real... Like, Darren Till is a young, enormous welterweight, and Cowboy lost to him. It's like, damn, how good is Darren Till? Cowboy lost to Edwards, too. But if...

To who? Leon Edwards? That's right. He lost to Decision. Decision. That was the one where he was sick as fuck, though, and he almost pulled out of the fight. But still, you know? It's true.

No doubt. Look, no one's saying that Cowboys is a monster. No one's saying Cowboys is a 20-year-old guy who's at the beginning of his career. He's been fighting a long time. But I think you get a look at a person from their last fight and you go, ah, man, he's slipping. Like, are you sure? Are you sure? Because he might just be unmotivated or having a lack of discipline for this camp.

Or he's fighting a really fucking good guy in Edwards and Darren Till, who are terrible matchups for him. Darren Till. Because his win was against the other cowboy, the Brazilian cowboy, right? Yeah. And Darren Till is such, if he doesn't. Or Yancy Medeiros. Sorry, Yancy Medeiros.

If you can't keep him off you, if you can't clip him and keep him off you. Yeah. Oh, dude. He's a nightmare. Won, Yancy Mandero. You can't keep him off you. If you can't clip him and keep him off you. Yeah. He's a nightmare. One of the best in the world. And this is one of the things that highlights how underrated Woodley striking has become. Because Woodley knocked down both Till, who's thought to be one of the best strikers in the division, and Long and Awkward. Knocked out Till. And Wonderboy.

Knocked him. Well, he choked him out. Yeah, but still. But knocked down Wonderboy in both of their fights and had them all fucked up. Whereas neither one of those guys hurt him. Neither one of those guys hit him. That's kind of crazy. Impressive, too.

And doing rap albums and shit. I didn't hear his rap. Was it good? Was it Khalifa? Yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure. Have you heard of Jamie? No? Not bad, you know?

He got upset that we were talking about CM Punk, and I was saying that CM Punk, that, what is that? Logan Paul. Logan Paul character, the guy. He would beat CM Punk. You're right about that. Is that what you said? Yes.

I said he's a good fighter. You know why? Because Logan Paul wrestled in high school. CM Punk did not. Also, I was looking at his boxing match. I was looking at the way he changed punches together. He can punch. He's athletic. Yeah, he can punch.

So if you're going to allow CM Punk to fight in the UFC... That was all my point was. My point was that CM Punk is bad. And I think that CM Punk is actually a very brave guy. I think that's a powerful thing to do, to take a chance like that and do it publicly. Yeah. How dare you? I mean, anyone's brave. You can pay $12 million to make that walk.

Tyron thought for some reason I was talking shit about him, but I'm most certainly not. No, he's a teammate. I get it. He loves the guy. Woodley does a TMZ show, so he gets ratings. That too. Woodley knows how to play the game. But I think he loves the guy too, which I respect.

Yeah, it's his boy. I respect. And if you go, hey, Logan Paul can beat up your boy. I don't even know if he could. I don't know if they're even the same weight class. I'm telling you, he'd be a fucking- Isn't Logan Paul a lot bigger? I have no idea how big Logan Paul is as a YouTuber boy. I don't even know if he could. I don't know if they're even the same weight class. I'm telling you, he'd be a fucking- Isn't Logan Paul a lot bigger? I have no idea how big Logan Paul is as a YouTuber, so I don't know.

I feel like someone said he fought at 185 pounds in his boxing match. Is that right? But they didn't cut any weight, though, right? Is he that big, 185? I think he's a big fella. He has a little brother, too, who's calling out Dylan Danis, which is silly. Oh, that's hilarious. That's hilarious.

And then he goes- That would not work out well. You know, Dylan's a world-class jiu-jitsu guy. He goes, no, no, no, not jiu-jitsu. Just boxing. Fuck jiu-jitsu. Oh, good lord. Oh, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. And then he goes, and then people go, you know, Dylan's a world-class jiu-jitsu guy. He goes, no, no, no, not jiu-jitsu, just boxing. Fuck jiu-jitsu.

Oh, good lord. Yeah, yeah. He just doesn't know. Oh, shit, it's about to go down, dude. Mike Perry's in the cage and Cowboy's walking up. Cowboy always looks so nervous

when he fights in Denver. He was 86 kilograms flat, whatever that is. 86 kilograms. What is that? Is that 100, that's 160 something right

I don't know is it twice it's 2.2 189.5 oh big kid so he's way bigger than CM Punk well CM Punk

fought at 70 cut weight those guys didn't cut weight well he might be CM Punk might be in the 189 range Logan Paul's definitely bigger though

I think Logan Paul is a better athlete he fights at 170 yeah there's nothing wrong with saying that he probably weighs like probably 180 or something if he cuts down to 170 if you had to guess CM Punk I think Logan Paul is a better athlete. He fights at 170. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with saying that. He probably weighs like probably 180 or something if he cuts down to 170. If you had to guess, CM Punk, 80-ish.

190? 190, I believe that. That's WWE shit. He cuts 20 pounds. Probably not. Probably actually now it's probably UFC information. Well, he fights at welterweight. That's what he competes. He might be cutting weight from 190, which is not outrageous.

Also, Logan Paul's way younger, a lot younger, vibrant. Well, it's more, you know, it's one thing if it was Melvin Manhoef at 36, you know, it's a guy. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? It's like it's not just being 36. It's learning later in life. You know, there's a thing about striking. If you're not an explosive person and you learn later in life, man, it seems like it's really difficult. The people that seem to pick it up

are people who had a little bit of it when they were younger, like a little bit of karate, a little bit of boxing, and they kind of kept the understanding in their head. And then as they retire from other sports, then they start to do it. Yeah. Was that the case with you? A little bit. A little bit. Were you doing any amateur boxing matches or anything like that while you were doing football or before you were doing football? I was doing some jiu-jitsu. Jiu-jitsu. Yeah.

When did you get heavily into striking? I would do it to stay in shape during the football season. But it wasn't— Before the Ultimate Fighter. Yeah, before the Ultimate Fighter. How much striking had you done? I just did Golden Gloves, but I only had six months of training six months six months of boxing training damn yeah see like now think about well look at this mike perry mean face and i'm bowed to him look at that mean face he's he looks like almost like a like like a devil type character

in a movie he looks like andre ersky, miniature size. But he looks angry. So mean. He's probably one of the meanest looking dudes in the sport. He's an intense looking dude. So mean looking. Yeah. He's becoming more and more comfortable too. That's what you're seeing from him now.

Dude, there's so much pressure on Cowboy, man. So much pressure. I just, so much. I like Mike Perry, but Cowboy's a personal friend, so I'm rooting for Cowboy. I feel exactly the same way. I love watching Mike Perry. I'm a Perry, but Cowboy's a personal friend, so I'm rooting for Cowboy. I feel exactly the same way. I'm a personal friend with Cowboy, but I love Mike Perry, too. Look, no matter what happens, we're going to see a hell of a fight right now.

Hopefully. Look, I like Cowboy's new haircut, son. I'm not mad at it. Kind of a mohawk-ish. Yeah, a little crazy shaved on the sides, a little patch on the top. I like his beard. Yeah. Looks like a savage. You know Cow a little crazy shaved on the sides. A little patch on the top. I like his beard. Yeah. Looks like a savage.

You know, Cowboy's grandma's in the crowd. I think he had to look savage in this fight. You know, you're fighting a savage. You better look savage, too. Match the savage. Here we go. Look at these two. Ooh.

I know. I'm nervous. Me, too. I'm a little nervous. Damn, Cowboy. There's a few fights that make me nervous. Cowboy looks super angry. Yeah, he does.

You think Cowboy flips off Winklejohn after he wins? I don't know if he does. Well, let's say head kick KOs. Maybe. That's Cowboy, dude. Might be something to it. Since I've known Cowboy, he's hate Winklejohn. Might be something to it.

Let's see what happens here. Damn, he looks disciplined. Look at Mike Perry striking. Hands up high. Light on the feet. Oh, shit. He's trying to knock him out. Looking for that big right hand.

Cowboy's a slow starter, so if I'm Mike Perry's coach, I know Cowboy. He likes that elbow off the break, too. He likes that elbow off the break. Cowboy's fucking good in the clinch, though. Damn. Let's see here. Well, that's the thing about Cowboy. Surprisingly good wrestling. He fucks people up with that. Oh, dude. I've seen

him fucking amazing wrestling. They forget. He has a knee pick that he does here that's amazing. He lifts his left arm and knee picks dudes all the time. Well, he also, like, he's been—that was a nice knee to the body. That shit was sharp. Oh, Cowboy said he traded with you all day. But Perry's knee was very good as well, though. But, see, the thing about Cowboy is he's like a— he seems like a fun guy, right?

He's always partying and driving around in his jet ski and getting wild. Jumping on a plane and shit. Yeah, all that stuff. So people think, oh, this guy's just wild. He's also a seriously skilled fighter. Oh, my God. A lot of that is a little bit of a smokescreen. He's absolutely an adrenaline junkie, but he's a very skilled fighter.

He's a professional. Look at that inside leg kick. Just lit up that inside leg. He can do it from all angles. Yeah, and look, has he had some rough fights? Yeah. Against the best in the world, though. You're going to get that.

This is a crazy-ass fucking sport he's doing. He also has over 40 fights. Exactly. And you're throwing bones at each other at a high velocity. You're going to get some knockouts. You're going to give some. You're going to get some. It's just part of the program. But Cowboy, look at that. at a high velocity. You're going to get some knockouts. You're going to give some. You're going to get some. It's just part of the program.

But Cowboy, look at that. Good head movement there. Cowboy's still here. Dude, I forget how big. Oh, damn. He's biting his mouthpiece and just going forward. Because Cowboy's fucking tall. I thought Perry was a lot shorter.

Perry's fucking big. I think he's six feet tall. Jesus, man. He's a tank, too, man. He's a tank. He's a real thick dude. Remember when he used to have his girl in his corner? Mm-hmm.

Then he lost. He was like, you know what? Probably not anymore, huh? Well, you know, he can't- She was like, rip his head off. He can't make 55. Fuck. Cowboy can.

God, it's tough on Cowboys. He gets older, too, dude. I mean, maybe Perry can make 55. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he can kill himself and get like Rumble Johnson used to do. He looks great at 70. Damn. That lead uppercut though.

That's fucking scary. It's good, but he's doing it on the outside and Donald's slipping away from it. Now, they sparred a lot before. They did a lot of sparring before. That can kind of fuck up fights. Like when I fought Andre Orlovsky, we sparred a bunch together. So when we fought, you were super attentive because you knew what the guy was good at, so you wouldn't throw your normal shit. so it makes for a more boring fight sometimes in cowboys

side though i think psychologically it probably helps him because he's already fought this guy before and if he did get the better of him in training it doesn't mean you're dealing with the same mike perry i'm sure mike perry's way better now but if they did train together and cowboy did get the best of them, then that shit's probably on both of their minds right now. There's just no way it's not. And that's a psychological edge that Cowboy would like. Dude.

Oh, side control. Cowboy's nasty off his back, man. Look at this, though. Side control. He reminds me a lot of Anthony Pettis off his back, where they're so explosive. Even if you know a triangle's coming, they're fucking, they're really, really sneaky, man. Well, let's see. Side control's going to be tough to do anything.

This is not somewhere he wants to be. Let's see how he gets out of this. Cowboy, I don't think he minds this. He also rolls him. I don't think he minds this. He rolls him. He'll take this all day. Oh, that was beautiful.

Yeah, I encourage the takedown. Oh, my God. That was beautiful. That was beautiful. Go to mount, cowboy. Oh, he's going to smash him. He can go to mount, though. But this is the thing that Mike Perry was saying, that he would do to him in the gym. And Cowboy's doing it to him right now. See, Cowboy going to smash him. He can go to mount, though. But this is the thing that Mike Perry was saying that he would do to him in the gym.

And Cowboy's doing it to him right now. See, Cowboy's super confident here. Cowboy's grappling's phenomenal. It's phenomenal, but not only that. He trapped that arm. He didn't sock him in the fucking face. He's been torturing this guy for years, right? Or for, not years.

Well, maybe a few weeks. A couple weeks. Maybe a few sparring sessions. Dude, he has him crucified right now. Years. I made that up. But what he is doing, though, is exercising some serious confidence in his maneuvers. He's bullying us.

Look at this. He lost it, though. He lost position. He lost it. He's on his back. Oh, that's not good. This isn't bad for Cowboy. It's not good.

Oh, look at this, though. Cowboy has a great guard, man. It seems pretty good so far. Yeah, no, his guard's tricky. He's attacking, and he looks like he's trying to bait him with the right arm. Cowboy's triangle's fucking filthy, man. Ow, needed the ass pipe. Where are you allowed to hit

back there? Anything goes. Anything but the sack. As long as you don't hit the scrotum. But you're kind of hitting super close to the snack. It's like the house next door to you getting bombed on. Look at this armbar attempt. Oh, he spikes him. And he's about to break his arm. He's going to hold onto it.

He's breaking his arm. No, no, no. He's passing over it. He's passing over it. Oh, Cowboy's breaking his fucking arm. That's a wrap. Fuck yeah, Cowboy. Fuck yeah.

That's a wrap, son. Fuck yeah, Cowboy. Didn't take a shot. Think of a moment that is for Cowboy. Didn't take a shot and got an armbar. Didn't take a big shot. Look at him. Look.

Ah! I almost said, come at me, motherfucker. I love shot. Look at him. Look. I almost said, come at me, motherfucker. I love it. Look at this. Look at this. Talking all that shit. You gotta appreciate it, man.

Dude. You get kicked out of your own gym. Here comes his kid, too. He just had a baby boy. I don't think that's what he was doing. He was telling his wife to bring his kid home? Bring his kid.

That's what it is. Oh, man. That's what it is. That's phenomenal. It wasn't an anger thing. That's phenomenal. That was he wants his son. Oh, my goodness. Oh, man. That's what it is. That's phenomenal. It wasn't an anger thing. That's phenomenal. That was he wants his son. Oh, my goodness. Damn, man. Oh, what a cute little fella. Wow. Dude, how happy

is that guy? Wow, what a great freaking win for Cowboy. He looks so confident, dude. Look how confident he looked. And I think some of that has to be... There's his grandma, too. Not just that he's a really good fighter, but also that they've they've sparred before he knew he had his number yeah he knew he had his number if it went to the ground especially

dude but he has no standing up oh my god that is cute even standing up he didn't get hit with any big shots no yeah he's moving dude he looks smooth as fuck he looks super polished standing up what a big win for cowboy it looked like he was about to snap his fucking arm, too. Hey, man, he might have broke it. We don't even know. I mean, he was on his back. Whoosh. Cowboy's guard, man. Very underrated.

Gets spiked. Does he trap the leg? Nope. Spiking never works unless you're rampaging the 80s. Doesn't let go. Turns him and then holds him belly down. Gets that arm. And now when he arches his back up, like, dude, there's a ton of fucking torque.

Look at this. That arm is in trouble.'s a ton of fucking torque. Look at this. That arm is in trouble, and it's in trouble sideways. Look at Cowboy's face. Look at his grandma right there. Dude, his arm might have went sideways. Look at this again. Look at this from this angle. Like, look at where the arm is.

He was already tapping. Yeah. Look at where his arm is, though. It's almost like he's doing it, he's getting it like this way. And twerking it. Yeah, he's getting it like that way. Joint manipulation. Yeah, he's not getting it like this. It looked like he wasn't getting it like this way. And twerking it. Yeah, he's getting it like that way. Joint manipulation. Yeah, he's not getting it like this.

It looked like he wasn't getting it like this straight in that way. I agree. Like to the side. Yeah, it looked like it was almost like this. That'll rip your shit apart, man. That's tremendous. Ooh, what a big win for Calum. Yeah, again, I like Mike Perry.

It has nothing to do with Mike Perry. I do too. I just know Calum's career, what he's been through. He had a baby. He gets kicked out of his gym. His back's against the wall. He loses this one. Everyone's telling him to retire.

It's fucking Donald Cerrone, man. Looked goddamn good, too. Hell yeah, he looked good. And the fact that he came to them and said, hey, I don't think it's fair that you guys train this guy, which doesn't make any sense. We've been together forever. And they said, OK, well, we're going to talk it through and have a meeting. And then they come back after the meeting and go, yeah,

we're going to train him. You can't come here anymore. It's so fucked up. But also, would it have him win? The interesting thing, too, is Cowboy, they go, is Greg Jackson in the corner of your neck? He goes, yeah, just not this one. Dude, did you see this shit?

Yeah, the movie looks dope as shit. What is it called? Overlord. Dude, this shit looks so good. I've been seeing tons of people talk about it today. I said it's really good. Oh, is it out already? It came not this one. Dude, did you see this shit? Yeah, the movie looks dope as shit. What is it called? Overlord. Dude, this shit looks so good. I've been seeing tons of people talk about it today. I said it's really good. Oh, is it out already? It came out this weekend, yeah.

Oh, my God. It looks so good. It used to be a video game, right? No, I don't think it has anything to do with that. I think so, dude. Am I crazy? I'm thinking Wolfenstein. It definitely could have been a video game.

It could have been. Fuck yeah. It might be a video game, though, still. If it's not, they fucked up. Do you remember Wolfenstein? Why would they make it a video game with the release? I know. People would play the shit out of that.

I was balls deep in Wolfenstein as a kid. Do you imagine what has to come into place to make a video game? Like, imagine if you have a movie, and you go, man, we've got to make a video game to get this movie to come out with it. It'd be the perfect video game. What is it? Overlord Film Review, great video game movie that's not based on a video game. That is so funny. It looked like. Great video game movie that's not based on a video game. That is so funny.

It looked like a fucking video game. I figured it was a video game. The name Overlord. The poster looks like a fucking Wolfenstein or some shit. Dude, that is so ridiculously funny. That's funny. That's so funny. That's so funny it hurts my feelings.

Yeah, man. That's what it seemed like. It seemed like a video game. 100%. Dude, look at Cowboy. He's so happy. Dude, how can he not be? Your like. It seemed like a video game. 100%. Dude, look at Cowboy. He's so happy. Dude, how can he not be? Your son's there chewing on a monster can.

Shout out to Monster. Don't let the son actually get that monster in his little system. Yeah, no, that would not be good. Can you imagine that? He gets a hold of that. And it's open, too. And it looks like all's good in the end. Wow.

Beautiful. Can you turn it up? No, no, no, that's okay. That's okay. I'll say hi to him when I see him and congratulate him. Wow. Beautiful. No, no, no. That's okay. That's okay. I'll say hi to him when I see him and congratulate him. He's awesome. Dude, what a big win in his hometown, man. So happy for him.

That was a stressful one. Here's the thing, though, man. He looked good as fuck. It wasn't just that he won. Dude, he looked smooth. How about Paul Felder trains at Jackson's too? He knows what's going on. Paul's with Duke. He was at Jackson's forever? He knows what's going on. He's with Duke. Paul's with Duke. He was at Jackson's forever. Was he?

Yeah. Before that? Yeah. Before Duke? Yeah. Dude, he loves Duke. He loves Duke. Look at that powerful Joe Schilling.

His grandma's shaking, man. With Donald. Dude, how cool is it? Your son's there. So happy. Look how fucking happy he is. Look at that fucking animal. Love it. I wonder what Cow that fucking animal. Love it.

I wonder what Cowboy said. I love it. Yeah, he's a guy that, like, man, look at that resume. Cowboy Hall of Famer, man. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. He's on some big fights, won big fights, but most finishes in UFC history, most wins in UFC history.

Hall of Famer. Yeah, even if he never wins a title, he's a Hall of Famer. I agree. He's the one guy. I think he passes your eyes as the one guy who never won a title that should have. That becomes more popular, too? Yeah. Well, Uriah's been thinking about getting back in there.

No. Yeah. No, games pass you by, dude. He gets bored, man. No, he has so much shit going on. He's healing up. You know, he shot a movie. He's healing up, and he's thinking about it.

No, that's a bad idea. How about they ditch the flyweights? This is super impressive, man. The Cowboy did? It's super impressive and he's thinking about it. No, it's a bad idea. How about they ditch the flyweights? This is super impressive, man. What Cowboy did? It's super impressive that he never let it go. That was tight as shit. Dude, slamming old school, but yeah. Yeah, but it's the way in the transitions. For sure to stay on it. Yeah, because even when Mike

was doing the right thing by passing over the top, it looked like he was almost out. But the wrist control that he had, that Cowboy had, and keeping it in the position where he wanted it i agree the squeeze i think there's a like again him and anthony pettis are guys when it goes to the ground because people think of them as knockout artists which they are in the great stand-up but anthony pettis and him on the ground are fucking tricky man from their back yeah most people aren't from their back but pettis and him from their back is nasty they both they both dive on shit real quick, too.

It's explosive, man. Yeah. It's basic stuff, but it's explosive. Cowboy started off with Muay Thai. Look at this. Look at how quick that is. That's so pretty. Muay Thai with Dwayne Ludwig.

That's so pretty. Look at this. Boom. Boom. The slam and tightening. Look how he's got that, man. I would like to see that. Oh, look how he's got that trapped in like that.

Yo, he's fucking that elbow up. Yeah, his elbow's going to be sore tomorrow. Ooh, he had a tap. Like you were saying, it's a tough loss for Mike Perry because you want to see where he's at, right? Because the guys that he's beat. You do see where he's at, though. Donald's a step ahead of him, at least. At least a step.

Maybe more. Yes. You know, but Mike Perry looked better than he's ever looked before. And he's just fighting the guy who's the best guy he's ever fought before. And when Mike Perry moves in, he moves in with his hands up high, his chins tucked, his techniques on point. He's not done. No, definitely not done. I don't even mean in his career.

I mean in his progress. He's going to get better and better. Yeah, he just got to Jackson's. And already from beating Paul Felder, even looked better in as a fighter against Cowboy so the next one yeah maybe just don't give him a the caliber of Cowboy he's not there yet well he'll get there though sleep on Cowboy man they forget they think for some reason he's done but just because he got knocked out by Darren Till and then lost to Leon Roberts Leon Roberts is a really good fighter and he was Roberts or it Roberts or Edwards? Did I say Edwards or Robert?

I don't know now I'm confused. Is that weed? It is Edwards right? It's Edwards right? Leon Roberts or Edwards that fought Cowboys? Cowboys last fight, Edwards. Edwards. Did I say, I said Roberts. It's all good dude.

Damn. I bet four bears. Sorry Leon. Sorry Leon. Yeah. I got a contact high. Dude, dude, sober October Did you get fucked up Right away After

Sorry to Leon Edwards But my point was Yeah we got fucked up Big time Do you get more fucked up now Because you took 30 days off I don't think so It seems exactly the same

You on no nut November now No it's supposed to be No remember November No it's no nut November Yeah maybe in your weird camp With fashion designers Not my fucking camp. Hell no. I have no camp with that, bro.

Fashion lovers get together. Hell no. There's no nut November here. I'm trying to get rid of these loads. Bust nuts November? Bust loads December? I remember hearing about tantric sex. Tantric sex makes sex better. Oh, what is this crazy commercial?

Great Raptor, though. Look at that. Forrest Griffin. Still doing the damn thing. Oh, what is this crazy commercial? People driving. Great Raptor, though. Look at that. Forrest Griffin. Still doing the damn thing. Dude, how about TJ versus Cejudo? But at 25. Well, it doesn't make sense that it's going to be at 25. Why would they do that? UFC's really going to get rid of the flyweight division.

They're done. That seems strange. Why do it? I know. Why wouldn't Cejudo come up? Because I guess TJ wants to be a double champ. That's the last fight? But it's for a belt that's for a division that's not

around anymore. Well, maybe they decided to do it because of the historical implications because if TJ can drop down and beat him. He's the last champ? Yeah, he's the last champ and he wins the title in two divisions. Unless he wants to go up to 45, you know, and then if he does,

I mean, maybe he builds up after a while and goes up to 45 for a few fights. You know? Yeah, maybe. There's not a whole lot for him. Well, there's some good fights for him at 45, for sure. Not 45? 45 is going to be a tough one for him. It's going to be tough, for sure.

There's still some fights. Marlon Marais is right there. Yeah, no, I agree. Jimmy Rivera just won his last one. 35 is his natural weight class. 100%. But if he's working with that, what's that guy's name? What is his crazy strength and conditioning? Some crazy. Salamita, is that his name?

I forget. What is TJ Dillashaw? Jamie's searching for it. That sounds great. That sounds great. God damn it. I hate when that marijuana clouds my memory and ruins my argument. And I have no excuse.

You got hot box, son. Oh, there we go. Yeah. I'm contact-type. This stuff is strong. Secondhand smoke. T.J. Versailles does a good fight, though. It's a very good fight.

Can't find his strength and conditioning coach? Didn't pop up right away. It's all good. yeah sam calavita calavita there you go that's right what did i say i said it's fucking close you know why because he's a comic named fran salamita that's why so spell it k-a-l-a-v-i-I-T-T-A. Calavito. Calavito? Calavita. TJ raves about this guy. I know. You know, when he first started working with me, he didn't want to tell me his name because he didn't want to get out on the podcast. He goes, I don't want everyone working with him. I can say his name. I'm like, dude, come on. He's hilarious. That's interesting, but probably accurate. Yeah. It's probably accurate.

You find out about a scientist out there that's just doing it for the art. Gives you a huge advantage. Yeah, I mean, this guy seems like he knows so much about performance. So now him and TJ have that. They went on that gym, Munoz, and it's him, right? And then that's got Aaron Pico there. That little fucking monster.

Yeah. Aaron Pico's terrifying. Oh my god. That left hook that he KO Aaron Pico there. Yeah. That little fucking monster. Yeah. Aaron Pico's terrifying. Oh, my God. That left hook that he KO'd that dude with. Biggest prospect in MMA. It was like a shovel hook, like a left uppercut. His body shots? Nasty. But that one to the chin where the dude was out cold and just fell back.

Like, Jesus. He takes shots. He just doesn't respect his opponents because he fucks up world-class guys all the time in the gym. So when they give him like, oh, here's Larry. He's 4-0. He's like, fuck a Larry and just walk forward. But they say in the gym, even against some of the best guys in the world, he starches them. Boom.

That is such a nasty hook, man. And it's so perfectly placed under the right arm. Look at that. Dude, that is crazy. Can I see that one more time? Biggest prospect in MMA. Do it from the beginning. Look how slick this is.

Look at this. He sees the right hand coming, and he hooks under it and right on the chin. And they're doing right by him because they're not throwing him to the wolves right away. You know, like if he's in the UFC, he'd be fighting fucking top 10 guys right away. Yeah. Look at that nasty left hook to the fucking liver right there. He's knocked two guys out to the body now. Oh, man, liver shots are horrific.

Nothing you can do. They really are. Might be worse than getting knocked out. There's literally nothing you can do. Kid's a tank, too, and a super high-level wrestler. Wrestler and boxer. Yeah, everything. He boxed him as long as he's been wrestling.

He can do it all. And think about this. Freddie Roach has cornered two MMA fighters, him and GSP. So there must be something special about that fucking kid. And, you know, I like the story that he lost his first fight. I like that. I was hyping up so much on here. I was working that fight.

But that's a cold, hard reminder. Well, I asked Scott Coker, I go, why would you give him that big fucking dude? He goes, Brendan, we asked guys you would know, vets, and they would not fight him.

He was like, there's like this mythical fucking aura about this kid. No one wants to fight him. This is the only guy we could find. Wow. It was a terrible match for him.

He's fucking 7-0, bigger guy, two weight classes up. It was a bad idea and also pico's never fought before and fight that mass square guard in his first fight i didn't know that was that much bigger than him i just thought the guy just caught him with a shot it was a lot bigger yeah yeah a lot bigger dude bad idea but did what did the guy weigh in at i mean they weighed in the same but he's a you know But his original weight class is higher up

He was a bigger fighter But they just thought Aaron was so special He'd fucking starch him Well didn't the dude have a marginal record Like he'd only fought once He was 7-0 Pretty sure he was 7-0 Oh I didn't know that

I didn't know he was 7-0 Cause I asked Coker He was great And I go why the fuck would you? He goes, Brendan, it's the only guy who would take this fight. Wow. I guess he knew something. Yeah, I guess.

What's Homeboy's name? Who he lost to? Yeah, I forget. But it's crazy. What's that? Zach Freeman. That's right. Zach Freeman.

He's 7-0, right? He's probably 8-0 now. Unless he lost one since then. That was a while ago. He's 9-3 now. Yeah, he's lost. Pull up the thing so we can see it. He had two losses before he fought Aaron Pico.

So what was his record when he fought Pico? Oh, here we go. Must have been 8-2. Or 7-2. 7-2. He lost to Sad Awad. That guy's fucking good. But still, when he fought Pico, he was 8-2. Or 7-2. 7-2. So he lost a sad a wad. That guy's fucking good. But still, when he fought Pico, he was 7-2.

So nine fights? Mm-hmm. That's a shitload for a guy at zero. So he's 7-2. A lot of experience. A guy with O and L, was my point. Fucking nuts, man. And, you know, fighting in Madison Square Garden, first debut.

You know, you only get one debut. It's a big deal. You're young. A lot of pressure. You're on TV. Everyone knows how good you are. And the other guy's good. And you get caught.

You get some dickhead in a suit and tie in the boxing. You're the next LeBron James of the MMA. His name's Brendan. Yeah. They just fill your butthole with smoke. They just take your butt and go. I still believe it, though. Yeah.

Like a balloon, son. You ever see Franco Colombo make a hot water bottle explode by blowing into it? No. That's what people were doing to his butt. Old school, man. He's blowing smoke deep up his butt. Dude, I was one of those guys. Me too.

I stand by it. But he was right. You were right. It was a lesson, and it's just part of being a human being in competition. And look at Franco Colombo Jacked Jacked He would

He would blow up A hot water bottle That's how strong His fucking lungs were Dude Until it would explode Holy shit Look how many people

Are watching that bullshit Look at this lady He's like oh my god I can't believe it Do you know how fucking strong Your lungs have to be To make this happen Like look at him heaving

You know you have Nothing else going on If you attended this live Boom That guy is a tank Of a human That's some old school have to be to make this happen. Like, look at him heaving. You know you have nothing else going on if you attended this live? That guy is a tank of a human. That's some old school Italian Neanderthal genes. That's some old school entertainment. God, look at those dime pieces.

I bet. Look at that hot chick. Sylvester Stallone! Come on, do it! That's the Arnold set. Dude, they were jacked. When I watch Pump and Iron, I get sad that I wasn't back then hanging out with them. They looked like they were just doing steroids, fucking girls, weed, Venice Beach.

Jacked. It wasn't all the bums. I wonder. They were just lifting every day at fucking golds. Just getting jacked. Yeah, that's all you cared about, jacks and bitches. And probably like at a level that nobody had done before the steroids, right? So the steroids came along and

all of a sudden the party got started. Yeah, like look at everyone they're hanging out with. You know what I gotta tell you though? Here's what's weird. If you look at Arnold right there, he's Mr. Olympia. Obviously jacked as fuck. But. Beautiful. Nowhere near as big as any of the big guys that you see today.

We're talking about different steroids. Well, it's not just that. HGH came along in steroids. It's not just that. They just want to continue to get bigger. There should really be a time, and it's hard to figure out when that time is, where you really don't want to get any bigger. You just want to get more sculpted and more ripped and more – you want to get more proportionate so that everything looks right, whether it's your calves or your – like, I don't know, jack shit.

That's why they're saying Ronnie Coleman kind of fucked everything up. Frank – yeah. They used to love Frank Zane even though he was smaller than those guys. Flex Wheeler. Yeah. Unbelievable symmetry. They said Ronnie Coleman came along and was like, oh, cool story, and just was like, and they said he just fucked everything up because he's so massive.

Well, even before him, Dorian Yates. Dorian Yates was a giant. That motherfucker was huge. Was he tall? No. He's shorter. See, Ronnie was tall. Yeah, that's true.

Taller for a bodybuilder. I want to say he's taller than me. Dorian's taller than me, but I. Yeah, that's true. Taller for a bodybuilder. He's taller than me. Dorian's taller than me, but I don't think he's six feet tall. Maybe he's six feet tall. But anyway, in his prime, he was massive. I mean, massive. We're talking Ronnie Coleman massive? He was pretty fucking big, man.

Really? You ever see Dorian Yates in his prime? Yeah, I see his picture at gold i don't know enough to say that who was the first guy to get super jacked like that but he was the first mr olympia that i remember seeing going what the fuck kind of steroids are they using now and he talked about he's like super open about his full cycle oh really what he took oh yeah man he did my podcast he's the best have you Have you seen the Ronald Coleman doc on Netflix? I haven't.

I heard it's awesome. It's awesome. It'll bum you out. It'll bum you out and go, you know what? I'm never squatting heavy ever again. Oh, his back is destroyed, right? Two hip replacements, back's fucked, and he has to have crutches, and he's in constant pain now.

Constant pain. Taking fucking opiates every day. Didn't he have multiple back surgeries? Multiple back surgeries, fused, pinched nerves. Damn, look at Dorian now. He looks like me now. He looks like, yeah. Dude, he was jack city.

He ain't got shit on Ronnie, though. See him on stage, though. That's a picture. He was bigger than that. Look at the far left. The far left up there. Look at the size of that motherfucker. That arm is thicky.

Dude. Look at the size of him. He was fucking huge, man. And shredded. And just worked harder than anybody, man. He was huge. They were all on the steroids, for sure. The steroids?

For sure. Them steroids? They were all on the steroids, for sure. The steroids? For sure. Them steroids? They were all on all the steroids. But for sure, that motherfucker worked as hard, if not harder, than any human being lifting weights. Phil Heath was jacked, too. Okay, here's the question. Phil Heath lost his last competition. Look at this.

Look at those two. How do you decide which one is more jacked? That is insane to me. That don't make any sense. I look at those two and I go, ah! You'd have to have an eye for it, right? It'd have to be your thing. You're a jeweler. You gotta go over that shit with a jeweler's glass. Look for cut

cult clarity. The two carrots. Yeah, for reals. Look at this. You gotta be an expert. What the fuck, man? Two of the greatest backs in history. That looks like Ronnie top left. I think it's the same, too, yeah. That's Ronnie Coleman on the top left, or is that Phil Heath? I think it's Dorian Yates. Yeah, that's Dorian Yates.

So it's Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie Coleman's ass is out of control. But are you saying it's Phil Heath? I don't know. I think that's Ronnie Coleman. It's Ronnie Coleman. I know Ronnie's ass. Oh, wow, strong.

I know a Ronnie ass. That's a Ronnie fucking. Look at his lats. Look at, they look like they're on a supermarket shelf covered in saran wrap. Right? It doesn't look like he has any fat. They look like ribs, like baby back ribs that you put barbecue on. It looks like he could, look at Dorian Yates.

It looks like he could pull your head right through your back. Here's the thing though. Grab your head with your spinal column attached and just pull it out. Like the movie Prometheus? Yeah, just leave a hole where your cord used to be. For sure. Here's the thing though. Dornier's got that flat ass compared to Ronnie.

Flatty. What are you flatty like a white girl in the valley? I didn't see that. I saw a giant booty. Let me see that picture again. That picture side by side? It was part of a different one. Was it part of an article? It was like one of these small ones. Oh, that's Phil.

Can't you hit the back button on the browser? I tried that. It didn't work. Can't you type in Dorian Yates versus Ronnie Coleman? Back, big booty, or no? Glutes? Probably glutes is the proper term. How about just type in Dorian Yates, big booty, or nah?

Right there. There it is. Come on, bro. Okay, but he's sucking that in, man. Sucking what in? He's pulling his back out. You're talking about the G-string? And sucking his butt in.

And then Ronnie Coleman's pulling the G-string? His hungry butt is eating those underwear. Dude, look at that ass. First of all, there's no reason to wear those shorts, boys. Ever. We get it. We got it. We don't need to see your asshole.

But at a certain point in time Like your shorts are too little Dude flat ass Look at his Little butt He has a little butt He has a little butt That's big right Yeah no look at Ronnie's fucking

Is that Ronnie on the right Yeah Oh my god Ronnie's so big Flexing on him son Look at that peach I take it back Yeah

I take back what I said I can tell the difference But I can't though Because I can't there Go larger again Go larger again. Ronnie all day. Ronnie's

look at his lower back. What is going on there? That's insane. I guess they're both fucking insane. The difference really to me is from the waist down. But Ronnie's legs are spread out. See okay. Now it's different. But still Ronnie's legs are spread out. Woo! See, okay, now it's different.

But still, Ronnie's legs are crazy. Dude, we're talking about Ronnie's asshole. Look at his buttocks. Look at his buttocks. He's got extra inches of buttocks. Ooh, Korean zombie just fucking looked like he blew his ACL. Oh, it just started. Oh, shit.

We're looking at male buttocks. He did have a flat ass, though. Ronnie Coleman's got an enormous ass, dude. Keep that up, Jamie. Keep that shit up, bro. We're looking at male buttocks. He did have a flat ass, though. Ronnie Coleman's got an enormous ass, dude. Keep that up, Jamie. Keep that up while the fight's going on. Make it bigger. No, keep that up. That last picture.

I'm trying to find another version. Yeah, get him bending over, can you? Oh, there you go. That's plenty. Dude, look at his ass, dude. That's outrageous. It's outrageous. That's outrageous.

Outrageous. Let me see that last picture, Jamie. Oh, Jesus Christ. Dornier's got that flat ass. look at the size of ronnie coleman's muscles i do it's ridiculous leg muscles look like he could fucking kick through a building look how thick his back is right okay here's the question now his back's destroyed his hips destroyed his knees are destroyed do you think that they did things differently do you think they said ronnie did if when you watch the doctor like they have everyone who compete against even jay cutler

they go dude we we would train with ronnie sometimes and no one wanted to train with him because he would just do things we wouldn't do like what like 800 pound squats all the fucking time look at the size of them jesus they every all the bodybuilders say he's the biggest freak ever. How strong he was, too. They said he just, the amount of work you do inside that weight room was insane. The crazy thing was when he was a cop. Oh, Jair Rodriguez with the beautiful leg kicks inside and then outside. You imagine getting pulled over by him for weed?

I'd be like, bro, you have fucking more illegal drugs in your system than me. What the fuck are you talking about? You'd be like, what are we talking about here? Come on, dude. Let me go, right? That would be ironic. It'd be hilarious. That would be super ironic because that guy's on illegal drugs.

Like, literally. You can't get that big without him. It's not possible. Dude, Jay Cutler in these interviews, he just, I don't know if, I don't want to hate on the guy. Then don't. Yeah, I'm not going to. It's hard not to, right? God.

Get a couple beers in you. Hater 8 came out. He started wanting to talk shit. Damn, Jay Cutler's giant too. Jay Cutler beat him when he's going for number nine, right? And everyone thought Ronnie Coleman shouldn't have done nine. Should have stopped at eight. Wow.

Fucking Phil Heath. My boy Phil Heath lost the last one. Who won the last one? Who's Mr. Olympian? Never heard of him. A guy who they compare to Flex Wheeler, right? He's a smaller, thinner dude. When I say thin.

I can't tell how many of these are Photoshopped or not. Oh, my God. Wait a minute. Is that real? Go back to that last picture you just picked up. Jesus Christ. Make that bigger. What the fuck, dude?

There are a couple that are definitely Photoshopped, but that one doesn't the fuck, dude? Check out his hair. There are a couple that are definitely Photoshopped, but that one doesn't look like it. No, that one looks real. Dude, that guy looks like a video game character. This one looks Photoshopped. Yeah, that looks Photoshopped. Green Zombie's kind of piecing up Yair while we're talking about asses. Oh, man.

So Yair was teeing off on him just a moment ago. Was he? Yeah. Dude, who won 2018 Olympia? This guy. Oh, wow. I'm pretty sure it was him. He's not Flex Wheeler at all.

His giant ass thighs, but he looks normal sized there. Dude, his abs are black. Isn't that weird? Yeah, they look like insects. How come that's okay, but blackface isn't? Well, I think that guy's black, Joe. What? Yeah, he's black.

But everybody does that. White guys do that, too. I know. They all do that. You know who? Oh, my God. Look at that does that. White guys do that, too. I know. They all do that. You know who? Oh, my God. Look at that white guy. Wait a minute.

Is he black? Well, if he's black, why did he look so whiter in that photo when he was doing most muscular? I don't know. Okay, close in on that gentleman. The upper left-hand corner. Upper left-hand corner, like you had before. The image in the upper left-hand corner. Keep scrolling up.

All the way up? That one. Yeah. He might be African-American. Dude, Korean Zombie. He kind of tees off on me. Oh, we should probably pay attention. What do you think he is?

Jamie, what is his nationality? That guy? I'm not talking about that guy. That's the same guy. That's the guy with the black abs. No, that's not him, is it? Yes. Oh, he's...

That's what I'm saying. He's not black. Right. Or if he is, he's very light. But what I'm saying is they are allowed to wear that stuff that makes your skin look dark. So you can see the muscles better. Right. But they get to a point where it's literally-

It's black face. It's black body. Also face, though. He's from Egypt. Okay, so he's from Northern Africa. But he's much lighter in those images. Moham. Moham.

Moham. It doesn't make sense- I one of them has an accurate, the one that most muscular that you just put up, if that's an accurate skin tone color. Jesus Christ. Jesus fucking Christ. Oh my God, he's huge. God, dog. What?

That one picture where you see his whole body, that doesn't even look like a real person. He has an ass on him too. That Egyptian ass, bro. Oh, dude. That dude. How mad are people that we're talking about ass on him, too. That Egyptian ass, bro. Oh, dude. That dude. How mad are people that we're talking about asses and not fights? That dude looks like science. Oh, Korean zombie with a straight left.

So he won the thing, this dude from Egypt? I believe so, yeah. Damn, he beat Phil Heath? That's a bummer. Wow. He's a beast, man. And you know fucking... Look at this.

Look at this beautiful scramble here. Oh, look at the double tap on the face by the Korean zombie. I think Kai Greene just stopped doing doing Olympia because it was rigged. So he's like, fuck this, dude. Yeah. He'd be a good guy to get on the podcast. Why do they think it's rigged? Kai Greene always – he had some –

Jesus Christ. God damn. Big Ramy. Did you say his name Ramy? I think so, yeah. Big Ramy. What is his full name? We should –

I tried pronouncing it. It's impossible. Let me go back to it. Let me try to pronounce it. You're much better at names than me. I don't want to fuck this up. Mama do else be a- No mama.

Let's listen to someone say it. Find a video where it gets- I don't want to fuck it up, man. God, I sound so authentic, though, I feel like. 5'10", 310 pounds, contest weight. 5'10"? Yeah. He's thick.

Come on, son. That's a thick dude. Special type of girl into that. But white guys. Like, regular white guys. Like, who's the famous white guy? The big guy. Gunther?

Remember him? He would compete with Ronnie Coleman, those guys. No. His name was Gunther. He was a giant Swede. He looked like fucking Colossal from X-Men. But he would go chocolate face. Dude, they get chocolate.

But you can't. Jay Cutler went chocolate. Jay Cutler's so tan. Girls do it too. And we just accept it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's full chocolate body though. It's full chocolate body and chocolate face.

It's like as long as you go full chocolate, you can go chocolate face. As long as you're flexing, they don't give a fuck. But you have to go everywhere. You can't have one side chocolate and one side not. Like half face. Trying to win or not? Well, not only that, it's not legal. You have to pretend you're one color.

Yeah, you do. Either I accept the fact that you're in chocolate body and chocolate face. What is that? That's not real. Is that real? It's just his body build. He went, now leave my face, bro. Horrible fake tan mistakes.

I think that might be real. He went leave my face, bro. He went chocolate body. How is that not racist? He was a really progressive bodybuilder, and he couldn't go blackface. It's the intent, though, isn't it? Go back to that picture. He went chocolate body, but his face didn't touch it.

You can't give him a medal. It looks like he smudged it a little. You can't give him a medal. Like he pretended he rolled around in the dirt. You can't give him a medal. It looks like he smudged it a little. You can't give him a medal. Like he pretended he rolled around in the dirt. You can't give him a medal, bro. Yeah, man, he's going to win because he went only chocolate body, which is totally socially acceptable. He totally didn't go chocolate face. Dude, chocolate body?

Look at this. They're literally spray tanning these people. That's exactly what they're doing. They are turning that guy black. Go back there. Oh, my God. But he keeps the face. Is this real?

This can't be real. That's before he went out. This cannot be real. That's before he went out. He's like, you motherfuckers are not taking a picture of me with blackface on. Let's show how ridiculous this is. Let's just call it chocolate face. Let's not call it blackface.

That's chocolate face. What's going on there? That guy's getting chocolate on his face. That's pure chocolate face. I mean, I know he doesn't want to be racist and I'm not saying they are racist. There's no intent there to be racist. Imagine, imagine, imagine

if from this conversation, what the fuck is that guy doing? That's bronze face, guys. He's bronze. He gets his body bronze up to the neck and then he leaves it alone? What is happening there? That's right before I went out on...

Wow. Okay, imagine, just imagine if because of this conversation we bring a rareness What is happening there? That's right before I went out on... Wow. Okay. Imagine. Just imagine. If because of this conversation, we bring a rareness to chocolate face, which is essentially a socially acceptable version of blackface. We're basically... Look at this guy! You need to go to jail, sir! That's like the biggest tool in the world.

You don't look like that, sir. Look at the guy now. Listen, but even, forget all that. You don't look better when you do that. You just look insane. Like, you have a black man's skin color, and you have blonde, spiky hair. This is insanity. What am I looking at?

How hard do you work to look this way? Dude, I'm looking at a puzzle. You're looking at a hot mess. I'm like, what is that puzzle? Oh, fuck, man. Ooh, Yair with a nice head kick. Maybe we should pay attention to this awesome fight. Dude, that white guy looks good on the left.

There's no reason to go chocolate body. Same guy? No, no, no. That's one guy dolled up and the other just natural? Listen, man. I get it. Black guys look better. You're just going to have to deal with that.

You see the muscle fiber. I agree. Just be white, dude. Chocolate body. Why is it okay? Why is chocolate body accepted? Why is chocolate body okay and blackface is not? Are we the first ones to ever say this?

No, I'm sure. Chocolate body? I think we might be the first to to ever say this? No, I'm sure. Chocolate body? I think we might be the first to call it chocolate body. And I think that shit's going to stick. Oh, powerful spinning elbow by Yair. Look at Yair looking for the sweep. But think about fighters tan, too. They try to get real tan.

Yair keeps looking for that hip toss. Yeah, they do. Fighters get tan, but George St. Pierre did. But you know, there's actually... George got yellow. It was actually, there's an actual benefit, like in terms of your performance, the increased vitamin D from getting tanned. Like, I think Steve Maxwell told me about this, that they did some studies.

Look at this. Awesome position. These boys are scrapped. Yeah. that they did some studies. Look at this. Awesome position. These boys are scrapped.

Yeah. I believe Steve Maxwell told me that there's physical benefits to getting tan. Being out in the sun. Yeah, well, not just that. Or a tanning bed with the vitamin D. While you're tan and your body's jacked up on vitamin D from the exposure to the sun, even, I think, probably not as good, but better than nothing, exposure to a tanning bed. That makes sense. That actually can benefit you. It's really crazy that

your body makes a vitamin. I know. Based off getting sun rays? Well, there's other ways to get it, dietarily, but most of the way you get it, staring at the sun. Or being in the sun. It is crazy. Crazy. How bizarre is that?

God, I wish one of these two went chocolate body. Yeah. Imagine if a guy fought the UFC chocolate body, and he's like, bro, I got to get contracts. I want to look ripped. You know? He couldn't say anything. I see how guys who are fortunate enough to have more melanin in their skin, they look better. They get more contracts.

It's true. He can't hold that shit back for me. Like, you remember When Chuck Liddell Used to paint his toenails And then everybody Wanted to paint their toenails Yeah everyone Went black toes

Yeah Talking about black toes Yep All we need Is one dude To go chocolate body And everybody goes nuts And he gets a big

Endorsement contract Oh We need Sage Northcutt To do it Yeah I hear Rodriguez With the fucking Beautiful kicks But Korean Zombie

Don't give a fuck about your kicks. He's such a little monster. Good defense there, Jair. But Korean zombie. Oh, he tried again. He tried again. But at the very least, it's allowing him to escape. Oh, step in elbow.

Look at that. He's a creative dude. Oh, he got clipped, though. Temple, that right hand was to the temple. That's the thing about the zombie, dude. He'll eat your flashy shit and just come forward. Well, in a lot of ways, this is a real good test for him after the Frankie fight, right? It's a good test for both of them, right?

Yes. What's the matter? Logo? Fighters definitely can't do that? I typed in fake tan UFC fighter. When was this? Sam Alvey did that? When did he do that?

2015. Wow. When was this? Sam Alvey did that. When did he do that? 2015. Wow. You know, the UFC had to make in a policy about putting those fake tattoos on your back that said, like, casino something dot com.

Remember those? Yeah. I think Bernard Hopkins was the first guy to do that. There's some guys who did that. Yeah, UFC can't do that. You can't get tattoos. You know, it's in your contract. No tattoos of logos.

Ah, interesting. Because they wouldn't be able to air it on television. You can't get tattoos. It's in your contract. No tattoos of logos. Ah, interesting. Because they wouldn't be able to air it on television. No, basketball too. Like J.R. Smith got, I think, a Supreme tattoo, and he had to cover it up. It's a large one. It's not just a tiny one. It's a big-ass Supreme tattoo. Unless you have ownership in that business, don't do that.

Yeah, what is that about? I don't know. He has so many tattoos, he's probably like, fuck it. He's like, come on. Give me free shit. That's what he's doing. Is that what it, fuck it. He's like, come on. Give me free shit. That's what he's doing. Is that what it is? Wow.

He's got it right off the back of his leg. Looks pretty sick, though. Oh, look at that Yair spitting elbow. That shit was nasty. Did you see that replay? We should pay attention to this fight. We've been talking about chocolate bodies. Yeah.

I think we have a point, though. Dude, I feel like we're the first ones to really call it out. Yeah, I don't think so. I've never heard of it before. Have you, Jamie? I don't know. There's probably a reason why there was a bunch of them tagged together on a website. I'm just talking about it.

I just think it's hilarious when you see the dudes who don't have chocolate face, but they have chocolate body. That's so weird looking. Your face is just a normal color. But I get it. I get it. It does make the intent, though. Where your face is just a normal color. But I get it. I get it. It does make you look more defined. Yeah, it does. When you're tan, you definitely look more shredded.

Right. Oh, shit. Yeah, here. But the thing about it is tanning is not really good for you, right? Get that dark. Not all the time, right? If you got that dark, fuck. You can't do it.

That's why they have to spray paint. And also, I would think that- I wouldn't be mad if Korean Zombie had somewhat of a tan, but whatever. They can't do it. That's why they have to spray paint. And also I would think that. I wouldn't be mad if Korean Zombie had somewhat of a tan, but whatever. Oh, how dare you. That's what it looks like, bro. That's what Korean looks like. Jair Rodriguez going for the sunshine. Yeah, he mixes it up, dude.

He does. He has good head movement, too. He looks good standing up. Dude, how fun of a fight would have been The Beat versus Jair? That's a motherfucking fight. Yeah, that would have been a really good fight. I don't like that fight for The Beat or for Yair. Oh, man, nice right hand by the Korean zombie.

Well, I like it to see. Entertainment-wise? I want to see what's up. You know, it's like a lot of people thought that Mike Perry had it all day for Cowboy, and Cowboy just showed everybody what was up tonight. That's what's interesting, right? Cowboy's been doing it for a long time. We know what Cowboy and Cowboy just showed everybody what was up tonight. That's what's interesting. Cowboy's been doing it for a long time. We know what Cowboy brings. We don't know what Mike Perry brings. We don't know what Yair or

fucking Zabit bring. We don't totally know what they bring, but we've seen Yair tested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've seen Yair tested against Frankie. Frankie Edgar just destroyed him. That wasn't even a test. Well, it was a test.

You just failed. Oh, my God. What is this? What's going on with the left picture? Yeah, I can't put that on YouTube. What is that left picture? Is that a guy or a girl? It's a woman.

How come she doesn't have a shirt on? Is she allowed to do it? This is an artist photographer. A photographer did a series of photos on the subject. Dude, that's a transgender. No, no, no. You son of a bitch. How dare you?

Dude, that's a transgender woman on the left. No, no, no. That's a woman who's, how shall we put this? Got a lot of muscle. Dude, that is not a woman with the pecs and the titties like that. Those are implants. No, it's a woman that's hooked up. Those are implants,cs and the titties like that. Those are implants. No, it's a woman that's hooked up. The titties are implants.

Right. But my point is that looks like her body and her proportions look like a- Dude, that's a man, baby. Like a different kind of thing. Dude, if that came up to you as a ladyboy in Thailand, I'd be like, bro, get the fuck out of here. Do better. But this is what I'm thinking. She looks like she could...

Green Zombie's piecing him up. Is he? Oh, damn. He's going after him. Yeah. She looks like she could be like a type of human that evolved on a nearby star. She looks like Steve Nash with tits. Am I right?

Like a type of human that evolved in a nearby galaxy that's super similar to us. Oh, I don't know, bro. Hopefully not. Well, the implant, if that wasn't an implant, if that's just what the breasts look like, just super muscular on top, just like a guy, super jacked, looks like a rugby player. And then you get to the titties and there's this weird sort of bulbous bags. Maybe they're horns or something. Maybe they're hard rocks that they use for chest banging in battle.

God, that's a tough call. Super jacked. But that's not a classic female physique, that's for sure. No, no, no. I like the nails, though. Long white nails are a strong touch. Go back to that, Jamie. If there was any doubt whatsoever about the feminine energy.

Really? Yeah. Look at them nails. Powerful. That's a man. With demon hands. Demon. Look at the demon.

Oh. Just full of veins and thick. Looked like they'd been just lifting heavy shit for years. Jerking off dudes. Boom. Boom. Yeah. But hey, man, if that's how she wants to look

I don't give a shit People that love to get jacked They love to just be preposterously huge Wow Look at that lady Total chocolate face How dare you lady That is the most chocolate face

She's dark chocolate face We need a new chocolate face She looks Damn dude If she was on the Megyn Kelly show If she walked out in the background dark chocolate face. We need a new chocolate. She went full cocoa face. She looks... Damn, dude. If she was on the Megyn Kelly show, if she walked out

in the background and started posing right when Megyn was talking about blackface... The whole world... The whole world would have pointed

at her and been like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's okay? Hold on. You're telling me this bitch is okay? She's a fitness competition? Are you a trick? God damn it. Hey, hey, hey. It's okay, bro. It's a fitness competition are you a trick guy it's okay bro it's a fitness it's all right i'm doing olympia next week i'm just showing

you how ripped my face is it makes no sense why is your face black yeah my face is shredded as fuck son dude i'm trying to show off my jaw muscles right here i guess i right here. I chew gum all day, bro. When I want to stop, I don't. Some of my fucking cheeks right here is ripped. This shit is zero sense. My face is chocolate. Fucking face is ripped, bro.

Look at that. Fuck, bro. Getting that face ripped. Oh, hey, fella. You can't do that. That guy's an aborigine in a movie. He cannot do that. That is a caveman.

They pull that guy out of the cave, and someone has to translate the white man's language to him. Oh, fuck, dude. That's what that is. You got a guy who's like, they are looking for gold. That's exactly what it's like. Do you have gold? It's like, what's up, moon guy?

Bro. Oh, how dare you, sir. How many people just want to wear a black face Because they're super racist And they can't So they become bodybuilders Does that happen? Dude

I mean, I'm not saying it happens a lot But it's happening There's a few Has it happened once? For sure Has one guy said, yeah, I'm just a fucking bodybuilder, bro Get over it, man Get over it, man

Yeah, get over it And he starts like Rapping and shit. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Dude, they're killing it. How is that acceptable? How is that possible?

That guy, it looks Somebody Sprayed ink on him Dude You know how hard That shit is to get off After these bullshit competitions That guy looks like You know how many years This thing

He fell in an oil well You know how unhealthy Those people are You know the guy Literally looks like He fell in oil He's like They pulled him out

Of an oil well Like oh I was in there I had to rescue the kid He went under He went under And saved somebody And he he's a goddamn hero. You don't need your face to be black. Okay, whoa.

That guy might be black. How do you know, Jamie? Don't get racist on us, Jamie. Jesus. His hair is different. Isn't that funny that you can get, that would make you racist? Like, if you thought that one of these guys in chocolate face and chocolate skin and chocolate body, if you thought one of those guys guys in chocolate face and chocolate skin and chocolate

body if you thought one of those guys wasn't doing it what the fuck you'd feel like you were racist like oh my god that's his real color shit it's it's more the women do it too though right jamie it's more of a man thing oh no the the women do it for sure i'm obviously oh dude they're disgusting hey but what are you showing me man He keeps it up to creep you out Look I just can't man Dude this is round four we talked about this fight For a total of 20 seconds

It looks like it's good Fucking chocolate body Good front kick up the middle by Yair Once a Korean zombie is forced to fight on the outside Like this then Yair's kicks become more dangerous. And that's shit like spinning backfists because you don't know what's coming. So he doesn't know where the distance is, where he's

safe. You're going to need to land a real clean one to stop the zombie because he does not fucking stop. He's the zombie. Yeah, two nice right hands. Ooh, he's hunting him down. Oh, Yair. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I think he fell there, though. Yeah, he's hunted him down. Oh, Yair. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh.

I think he fell there, though. Yeah, he definitely fell. I think Yair did a good job chasing after him, but I think he fell. Oh. Nice jab. Damn, Yair's bloodied up. Yeah, they're beating each other up. Oh, there's another nice left hand.

Korean zombie switching up from right hand to left hand. They're both fucked up. Both their noses look broke. Yeah, they're beat up. Korean zombie's got something going on. Oh, shit. Not just with his nose, but I think with his lip. His upper lip, right?

His upper lip. Yeah. Oh, he just wiggled there. He just threw that punch and wiggled. Oh, shit. He just landed. Remember when Korean zombie just dipped out for four years to serve in Korea? Military?

I think. You have to. Yeah, it was a few years. How many years was it? Was it four? Was it two or four? I remember he was gone for four years And beat Dennis Bermudez I think Dude his lip is fucked up

I think he KO'd Dennis Bermudez Oh Yair popped him with the jab Right on that mouth I think he's got He's got some issues going on With that upper lip man We've seen that before Where a lip splits

You've seen Chuck Liddell's When he fought Rich Franklin. That was the worst I've ever seen. Robbie Lawler's probably the worst, though, right? Close to four years, Jamie? Oh. He missed four years. I think he served two.

But he missed four years in the UFC then came back, beat Dennis Bermudez. Oh! What happened? Korean Zombie just hit him with a big right hand. Fuck. Big right hand. He's yelling something.

He's saying he's doing something. He's saying he's holding his glove? He said something. Did it wobble. He's saying he's doing something. He's saying he's holding his glove. He said something. Did it wobble, Yair? Yeah, he cracked him. He cracked him good. It was a good shot. The fucking zombie, man.

Remember his badass walkout shirt? Oh, he's saying he hit him in the nuts. Or is Yair looking for a break? They're not stopping it for that. Oh, come on. Go, Korean. Zombie. Wow.

Let's take no races. I didn't see that. Did, come on. Go, Korean. Zombie. Wow. Let's take no races. I didn't see that. Did you see what happened? Zyre was complaining they got hit in the nuts and kept looking at the ref. But do you see what happened that made him say

he got hit in the nuts? No. Dude. But if the ref doesn't stop, I mean, come on, dude. They're probably both exhausted. He can see, like, come on, give us a break.

Well, they're both, they've taken a lot of punishment. Yeah, Korean Zombie looks like a different person. And so does Yair. He's covered in blood. Oh, right hand, beautiful left hand behind him. Yair looks like one of those hyenas when they're eating. Right, and they're going right through a water hog's asshole.

Yes, like a fucking water buffalo's dick. Yeah, his face is all red like that. Like a water pig. Yeah. Yeah, his face is all red like that. Like a water pig. Yeah. Some kind of wildebeest looking. He looks like a fucking butthole hyena, man. You ever see a warthog? Yeah, I've seen a warthog up close.

What a fucking weird looking animal that is. Super weird. You ever watch that? I forget what the nature medal, where the fuck it is. We both follow on Instagram. Oh, yeah. Nature's medal. But they'll post like a hyena ripping a fucking water buffalo's dick off.

And it's a sensitive material. I'm like, I'll watch it five in the morning. I'm like, God damn it. It's like a zebra getting its fucking air starched off by a fucking eagle or something. James Vick posted something on Instagram because, you know, James Vick has been pig hunting lately. Yeah. And he posted this video of a pig eating a deer. And you watch it.

Like a boar? Whoa. It's a wild pig. It doesn't necessarily have to be a boar to eat a deer. It could be a wild female. So when you think of wild boar, people think of like a different thing. I think of tusks. Yeah.

That's just a male. Oh, yeah? Yeah. But a boar isn't the same as the pig that we eat, the pink piggies. That's where it gets strange because they're actually all the same species. Oh, damn. I did not know that. They look different, though.

A boar looks different. They have hair, their noses, they're gnarly. Yep. They're different in where they come from, too. Bebop and rocks. If they're in Russia, like Russian boars. And they're bigger, too, right? They're all considered among the same genus

I think they call it they say genus that we say Janice or genus how do you say that Steve Rinella told me all this it's an animal it's a species called sous-graphe and that's what pigs are is that like same Joe like is that no no it's very different very different very different because when you leave pigs out in the wild see there it is right there. What are the differences between a boar and a wildebeest? No, wild pigs call the boar underrated male. That's just –

Sorry, talk. It just says it right here. It doesn't talk about wildebeest in that thing. Okay. What does it say? A wild pig can be called a boar, but that's just the name of it. Pig, European wild boar, yeah. But what is – this is what the

question is right what's the difference between wild pigs and domesticated pigs you know I think a pig is the same family it's the same thing oh there it is a boy yeah uncastrated male domestic pig that's just the term war uh wild boar what i'm asking is is a pig and a wild pig a domesticated pig and a wild pig what's the difference between them i don't think there really is i think they're the same thing it's just they bred one and turned it into this like real soft sort of thing but when they get wild their body actually morphs yeah they're not pink in the wild they get wild, their body actually morphs. Yeah, they're not pink in the wild. They get fucked up, right? No, they literally have changes to their anatomy. Their nose grows.

Their mouth lengthens. Their teeth grow out. Their hair gets thicker. And it happens just after a few months. Yeah, I know what the girls... It says a wild pig is just both once it's wild. And then a razorback is a... It's not the answer to my question, though.

The question is, what is the difference between a wild pig and a domesticated pig? Do they have that on there? Okay, just Google what's the difference between a wild pig versus a domesticated pig. Yeah, let's see what it tells us. There we go. Look at that pig piggy. There we go. Pig, hog, and boar essentially describe the same animal,

but there are some distinctions. A boar is an uncastrated male domestic pig, but it also means a wild pig of any gender. A hog often means, okay, if we go deeper into it, I'm pretty sure that it says they're part of something called sous scroffa and sous scroffa is the uh the group that includes wild pigs domesticated pigs all those different animals but when you let them go wild they um they literally change who they are yeah sous scroffa that's it so it is kind of the same thing. It's just they look different in different places, but they're the same thing.

Dude, my son was playing with two baby pigs. They were eight weeks old. Goddamn, they were cute. Oh, they're adorable. God, they're cute. When you see them in the wild, they're so different. It's such a ruthlessly aggressive little thing. Really?

So you want to kill them? Well, they're creepy. I remember the first time I ever hunted them, I was with Ronella, and we were walking past this field, and the grass was, the brush, everything was very thick, and it was really high. It was like much taller than their backs. So if a pig is only a couple feet tall, the grass was probably like five, six feet tall because you couldn't see where they were.

But you hear them in there. Jesus Christ. They were going at it with each other. Dude, it sounded like there was little them in there. Jesus Christ. They were going at it with each other. Dude, it sounded like there was little demons in there trying to kill each other. What did you guys do? Just go in there and mark them up? Look at this. They're about to throw down?

They're about to throw down. Look at this. Look at this. They put their hands up. What is going on right now? What is going on? Why are they all flapping? A Korean zombie just looked up at the screen.

Yair said, let's meet right in the center and throw down. I think that's what he's saying. Well, you know the zombie's down. I don't know what happened there. The zombie looked around like, what's he doing? We're talking about wild pigs. People are like, this fucking fight is amazing. And these two assholes.

I see a bunch of people clapping and shit. We're talking about wild pigs. And chocolate bodies. Chocolate face. Chocolate body. Chocolate body, bro. Chocolate body's totally okay. It's when you go upstairs with the face.

You're better off going full white face, chocolate body, and say, hey, man, I would never do black face. It's disrespectful. Put your chocolate feet, chocolate hands. Oh, look at that straight left hand by the zombie. That was nice. Zombie's trying to get in a fucking shootout. That was a serious straight left. He's been switching stances, and as he switches stances, he pops that left hand in there.

If someone said, hey, Shob, I'll give you $100,000. Tell me who's winning this fight. I couldn't do it. Oh, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'll tell you a couple things about chocolate bodies and war dogs. I know quite a bit about that. Me too. Nothing about this fight.

And wild pigs. I know it's been an entertaining fight. Yeah. Oh, beautiful spinning back fist. Yeah, here. Still. Look at that. Tries a hammer fist. He's still super creative. Oh, beautiful spinning back fist. Yeah, here. Still. Look at that. Tries a hammer fist.

He's still super creative. Oh. Yeah, he's a fun guy to watch, man. He really is. Oh, nice right. Short little check hook. That side kick to the knee, man. That's such a nasty move. Yeah, here.

It was at Jackson's for a little bit, remember? Yep. That side kick is their thing. Well, it's a legit move. Yeah, he was at Jackson's for a little bit, remember? Yep. A sidekick is their thing. Well, it's a legit move. Fuck yeah. That is good. Whitaker, Yoel Romero. Yeah.

Dude, how about fucking Weidman? Can start. Crazy. He's going to get the next title shot, too. Crazy. Well, I guess Jacare gets it now. I think you do a style bender with Jacare. Because Jacare already lost to Whitaker?

Yeah. No one wants to see that. Yeah, but, man, I mean, how many more years do you think Jacare's going to fight? He's 38. Yeah, not many. He beat the guy who was going to get the title shot, right? Don't you think? Yeah, well, no.

Weidman was for sure. They were going to fly him to the fight to be an alternate. But here's the thing. They keep on their hands up. There's fucking 10 minutes left. I don't understand. What are they doing? I don't understand.

If you don't want to get the bonus, do that. Nice kick to the body there. Oh! Oh, shit! He flatlined him. Holy shit! Oh, my God. Holy fuck!

Oh, my God. There was five seconds left. Oh, my God. And he threw a fucking elbow and knocked Korean Zombie out. Oh, my God. There was five seconds left. Oh, my God. And he threw a fucking elbow and knocked a Korean zombie out. Oh, my God. That was insane. Look at him kick all the coaches out. It's so stupid they do this.

Just let him celebrate. Get the fuck out of here. That was insane. Flatlined him. Oh, my God. He zombied him. He's fucked, too. He's still out.

Look at him. They're calling the doctor over. Zaire's calling the doctor over? Yeah. His pride knows. Dude, that fucking elbow flopped. Can we get a replay? Jesus.

Oh, he's hurt, man. Zaire's hurt. See how he got up and he just winced in pain? Yeah, shit. What did he hurt? I don't know. Just coach tackle Wow

Here we go Dude this is One of the best Knockouts of the year Was that on the buzzer? Yes Look at this Whoop look

Boom Upward elbow Insane Holy fuck I've never seen that Sweet Look at this I've never ever seen that

Bang Oh my goodness Oh my goodness What a fucking KO What a beautiful elbow Whoop Creative Bang Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. What a fucking KO. What a beautiful elbow. Creative. Oh my god. Oh my god.

Dude, that was... Can we get the clock at the bottom? Oh my god. I think it was two seconds maybe. Two seconds. And I wonder what the scorecard were going into that. That's a good question. I wish we were paying attention. Unless we watched into that. That's a good question. I wish we were paying attention.

Unless we watched the KO. That's phenomenal, man. That is phenomenal. Look at Izzy. My man, Victor Ortiz, too. Holy shit. What a big win for Yair. Victor Davila, the guy who just jumped in, he's the UFC commentator for the—

Deportes. Yeah. Super good dude. He's one of his black belts, too. Yeah, he's the UFC commentator for the- Deportes. Yeah. Super good dude. He's one of his black belts, too. Yeah, he's a great guy. Him and Verdum are the Deportes guys. Dude, that right elbow was so nasty. I've never seen that.

I've never seen that. Look at T.P. Smith. Look at Rashad. Look at Rashad's face. Everybody's like, wow, that is crazy. That was one of the craziest elbows you're ever going to see, man. The best knockout of the year, I think. Oh, yeah, especially considering that he's got this nickname, the Korean zombie.

And we've never seen that, though. Wait a minute, was Alistair and Francis, was that this year? Was that this year? Yeah, you've got to give that it. I think this is better. I've seen how many right hands connect. That was a left hook, by the way. Left, right hook, uppercut.

No, that was an uppercut he hit. Last year. Last year. It's last year, so we've got it. It's out. It's out of the running. That's number one of the year. Okay, but.

An elbow from no look. Fucking. Right. But that's only UFC. Yeah, other ones don't really count, do they? They should. Bellator? For sure,

Bellator has some good ones. What's the best KO? Pico has had some great KOs. Pico's uppercut that we talked about earlier. That uppercut's insane. This is the best KOs of the year? Kader? He goes uppercut that we talked about earlier. That uppercut's insane. 2018 ones. I'll flip through here to see if any of them are up. This is the best KOs of the year? Yeah.

I was going to slide through to see if anything. Yeah. Cater had a good one. I was at that fight. Jacare Brunson. Jacare head kicked him. That's what was so crazy. Dude, Jacare's just fucking dudes up.

Boom. No, that's not even the same fucking. No, no, no. It's a different thing. Oh, fucking Smith. This is Tiago. Santos.... No, no, no. It's a different thing. Oh, fucking Smith. This is Tiago. Smith-Santos. Santos KO'd him, though.

Body shot? Yeah, he body shot at him and then beat him down. Again, I've never seen a no-look elbow knock a dude out. That was beautiful. If you've ever seen... Oh, yeah. Romero Rockhold was good. Romero Rockhold was fantastic.

Damn, Yair's fucked up. You ain't getting that Zabit Yair fight for quite some time. No, no, no. He got fucked up. Dude, he is really fucked up. It looks like he can't stand on his leg. Dude, when Yoel punches you, it just seems like a different thing. The way he punched Rockhold and then punched him again, it's like a different thing.

Dude, at 85, there's some great fucking fighters still. It might be the best division right now. 55 stacked. It is. 70s fucking filthy but nasty. But you know what? Between Stylebender, Boracina, you got Yoel Romero,

who's still in the mix. Robert Whitaker. Rockhold. Weidman was in that fight. I know, it was a good fight. Up until the last punch that Jacare landed that KO'd him. Kelvin Gaslam. Kelvin Gaslam. They're stacked. Rockhold's a beast, man.

Who else? 85 is up there. How about Cannoneer, who just fought at 85. He just had his first big win. Monster. Dude, he looks terrifying. Here it is again. Oh my goodness. That is ridiculous. Look at this. Dude, he looks terrifying. Here it is again. Oh, my goodness. That is ridiculous. Look at that elbow.

Look at this. Slide, slide, slide. Bink. Boom. I mean, that is perfect placement. Dude, that is ridiculous. This is placement. It's so perfect.

What's he saying about his leg? He did his camp with Cowboy. Oh, he's thanking Cowboy Cerrone. Because they did their camp together. Yeah. That was beautiful. They just... I wonder what happened to him when he's limping.

Oh, he's bringing it up now. Did he break his feet? First round, he fucked his foot up, he said. So he kicked his knee accidentally. And he thinks he broke his foot in the first round. Or at least fucked his foot up in the first round. Wow. Do you think he calls it the beat now?

in the first round. Wow. Is he going to call it the beat now? Whoever Sean Shelby and Dana White want me to fight, always a standard thing to say. You never get big fights

when you do that, but yeah. Yeah. You always got to just go for someone, even if it's not in your nature. Yeah. Yeah.

If you really want that fight, you got for it got him they put in their brain otherwise they can give you what they think's best very interesting fight though for what we did get to see of it and that elbow was fucking fantastic that's not gonna yeah that's such a really good important point about the difference between recklessly charging in and what the Korean zombie's doing, that turning into a zombie war like he does every fight. It was working. I feel like he'd probably be up on the scorecards. It looked like it was working.

I'd like to know. We'll find out later what the people that were watching think, even at the scorecards. One person I read said he was down 3-1 going into that round. For the zombie? Three rounds to one, zombie was up. Yeah, from what I saw, the zombie down 3-1 going into that round. For the zombie? Damn. Three rounds to one zombie was up. Yeah, from what I saw, the zombie in the exchanges. Looked like it. He was

definitely coming after him moving forward, but it looked like Yair was getting some shots in. Good for him, man. All the drama too. There's his family. Got blood on your mom. Look at this again. This is so sick, dude. Whoop! Bam! That's some N1 shit. He just delivered that. Look at this again. This is so sick, dude. Whoop. Bam. That's some N1 shit.

He just delivered that. Look at this. Bam. That's ridiculous. Oh, my God. One of the best elbow KOs of all time. Ever. Of all time.

Spack. Of all time. And perfect time to use that technique. And that's the number 10 guy in the world. Name the Korean zombie. It's a fight where, according to at least one judge, he was losing. That's insane. And he lands that.

I love how the coach is flying in. And it uses the momentum of his attacker. It's a beautiful lesson in martial arts for people to watch. When a strike like that lands, and it lands so perfectly, that opens up that strike for a lot of people. 100%. like when a strike like that lands and it lands so perfectly, that opens up that strike for a lot of people.

100%. Right? Remember when- John Jones started the one where he touched the inside leg and did the spinning. Yep. And then everyone started to do it. Yep. Yeah.

No, John smashed people with that. One guy does it. Yeah. He looks ridiculous. Did you ever see Gaston Bellano spinning elbow in Bellator? No. Son. Dope.

Son. Really? You want to see someone look like they got shot with a. Dope. Son. Really? You want to see someone look like they got shot with a laser beam from the moon? Really? He just hits him in the head. Bring that shit out, Jamie. This dude got hit so hard. Gaston is a real world class Muay Thai fighter.

Look. Left. Bang. Oh. Fuck. Dude. Watch this. One more time

Watch this Oh my god I mean Come on son Folded him But it's the way it lands too It's just so perfect Boom

Now Was this against the number 10 fighter in the world? No So Yair's is more impressive But Boom But again

I've seen spinning elbows Land and knock dudes out Like that That one's pretty cold hearted Let's watch it one more again, I've seen spinning elbows land and knock dudes out. Like that? That one's pretty cold-hearted. Let's watch it one more time in real time. Dude, I've never seen a guy no look KO someone with an elbow. I don't think I have either. Watch this, though.

That's real time. One more time in real time. One more time in real time. One more time in real time. Give it to me in real time. Look at this. Swag. That's filthy.

I mean, that is insane. That's the restart. That's like, that's the restart. That's control, alt, delete. Right? The whole thing goes dark and comes back up. Yeah, but Korean Zombie is a guy who, first of all, was deep in that fight, maybe even winning that fight, at least according to one judge, known for being a zombie, known for being able to take a tremendous shot. Flatlined. Tough as shit.

Flatlined. Flatlined in a fight he might have been winning. Damn powerful Rashad here. Rashad looking suave. I like his shaved head better, but whatever. I like what he's doing with his hair. I like this purple psychedelic paisley tie. Not mad at the beard.

I like the whole look. Jimmy Smith. What's that pin? What do you think that pin is? Is that a Porsche pin? Imagine what a dick he'd be if he had a Ferrari pin. That's some shit I would do. What do you think that pin is?

I don't know. It looks like a Porsche pin. What is that pin, Jimmy? What do you think? It's probably for Veterans today. Oh. Good call, dude. It looked like a POW pin. Oh. Good call, dude.

It looked like the O.W. pin. Yeah. Good call, dude. Something along those lines. Well, dude. Well, we covered it all, bro. We covered it all, butt fighting. For all you bodybuilders out there, we don't really care.

No, keep doing your chocolate bodies. I actually encourage it because it's hilarious. And it makes you look better. You're right, dude. It's an advantage. Chocolate it up, bro. Yeah, you really don't care. I actually encourage it because it's hilarious. And it makes you look better. You're right. Dude, it's an advantage. Chocolate it up, bro. Yeah, you're right. I get it.

I get it. I don't think that you shouldn't be able to do it, but I do think all of it's crazy. Yeah, I do think it's racist now that I look at it more. I don't even think it's racist. I don't even think it's racist. I think they're just trying to look like they're shredded. Like a black guy. How dare you? That's exactly what they're just trying to look like they're shredded. Like a black guy. How dare you?

That's exactly what they're doing. And listen, it's work-in-form, and chocolate body's the new thing. These highlights are incredible. Well, it definitely has an impact, man. I mean, if you're white like paper, and you're trying to look jacked on TV, and you're standing next to a dude who went chocolate face and chocolate body, that guy's going to look way darker. Who wants to be more chocolatey?

And the only reason why you should go chocolate face is because otherwise it's super distracting. Correct. Because now- You know, you got to go all. Now I don't think you're tan. I think you're crazy. Yeah, you look crazy. What's going on?

You're like, what the fuck? Do you have like a suit on? Yeah, you just like- You know how like- You got to match it. There's some girls who are particularly sexually adventurous and they will, even for Halloween parties, will just paint their tits. Yes.

That was a thing that was going on for a while. It was crazy. It looked crazy. It was like a loophole. Crazy hot, Joe. Crazy hot. But it was like a loophole where girls could basically be topless at parties with paint on their tits. And you could see their full nipple.

But it was all good. You could see they had stars over their areolas. Are you watching Twitch these days? What, it's still going on? Yeah. What's Twitch doing? What's going on on Twitch? I don't know what day they changed the rules, but the rules got changed sometime.

Oh, why'd they change the rules? No, no. The other way. Good, good. They let them paint their tits. Why not? Listen, if you can wear some sheer, skin-tight shirt that shows your nipples, and I'm all for that, why can't a girl paint her tits and make some money?

What, do you want to work at Denny's, motherfucker? Can a guy paint his dick and make some money? Yes. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. Oh, wow. Perfect. Dude, she is hot. This girl just has her titties all done up.

Whoa. It's great, babe. Look at this one. This is Twitch world? Yeah. So they have fake bikinis on. Dude, I need to get on Twitch. But it's just titties.

She has some tiny titties. But this is naked. Well, now it's going down. You're seeing this girl's got naked. No, stop need to get on Twitch. But it's just titties. She has some tiny titties. But this is naked. Well, now it's going down. You're seeing this girl's got... No, stop it, you asshole. The girl's crying. Leave these girls. Separate them.

This girl's got elf ears. This is the dark web now. No, no, no. We're good. Leave it alone. The point is, they're allowed to do it. She's got barbs through those nipples. What's happening down there?

Hey, man. Is there something happening onto those nipples? Am I just looking at it wrong? Dude, this is Twitch. What the fuck do they do it for? Yeah, what are those things on her nipples? Is that some sort of an object? That little line?

Yeah, what is that? Is that like a nail through it? Oh, is that paint? That's the paint. It's all paint. I thought maybe she had some sort of ring going on. When I talk about Twitch, it's like my dad asking me about CBD oil. I have no clue.

I couldn't tell you what. People do a lot of shows on Twitch now. I know. Like a lot of, you know who contacted me the other day? Bubba the Love Sponge. Oh, really? Yeah, he's doing a show on Twitch. He does a show on Twitch.

Like a straight, what do you mean show? He was a famous radio guy. Yeah, I know. He still is. I mean, he did, he used to be on Sirius in the early days when Howard first got on. Bubba the Love Sponge was on after him. He does like a show like this on Twitch? Yeah, apparently.

When did he get on Twitch? Yeah, I think Jeans and Segura are doing it. Yeah, they're on there. Are they on there? Your mom's house, Tom and Christina. They're hip. They're cool. Yeah, they're doing Twitch as well.

Have you looked into it, Jamie, much? Yeah, I'm on there myself. But I play video games. But it's expanded over the last, I don't know, year to more than video games. There's podcast sections. There's music sections. They try to do a comedy section even. They're trying to entice people to do stand-up comedy on there. It's a terrible idea.

Yeah, it's a terrible idea. Yeah, that doesn't work. But there's tons more than just video games on there now. When people first started doing podcasts, one guy asked me to do his podcast. Then asked me to do stand-up. They do the live podcast. He wanted me to do stand-up on the podcast. I go, what are you talking about?

I go, you want me to do my act on your show? And then it just gets released on the internet? I just do it that way? Instead of just getting paid for a Comedy Central special or a Netflix special? What are you talking about? Why would I do that? And you're just going to sell it? They had no idea.

You're just going to sell this podcast? How much do I get out of this? Zero? Okay, that sounds like a good deal. Am I materials out there in this stupid-ass show? That's so crazy. But that was the early days of podcasting. People were trying to figure out what the hell it was.

Like, what is this thing? It's hilarious. Is this just a joke? Is anybody paying attention? Who's watching? Little did they know. this thing it's hilarious this is just a joke is anybody paying attention who's watching little did they know yeah it's just uh i remember uh kevin smith was one of the first guys to take it seriously because he rented a theater he had a theater on melrose it was like um the smodcast theater and uh we used it once i used it once to interview was it tom green and Jim Norton? Maybe.

I think I did two podcasts there. I did one with Tom Green and one with Jim Norton. Yeah, it was interesting. It was cool. It's different. It's interesting,

but it's different. Yeah, doing it live in front of an audience is different. Yeah, it's not like... Do you guys still do live Fighter and the Kid shows? We don't.

You don't? No. Too busy with both of your stand-up careers? Too busy, yeah. Yeah. It's rare brian i get together yeah as far as live shows well i guess that's good because it means you're both

busy because that's exactly the same thing that happened like me and joey and uh and even me and me and ari and me and duncan it's like everybody else just got too big you know ari's just headlined these giant ass places now and and Joey's headlining giant-ass places and, you know, Segura's selling out everything all across the country. It's just how it goes, you know? If you're doing stuff with people, eventually they wind

up doing something else and, you know, I know you're doing really well with your stand-up comedy. It's probably hard to do those shows because those shows are a different thing, right? It takes away from what i'm doing yeah like the original goal like if i'm going to dedicate time and stage it's going to be to my right especially because you kind of have to if you want to headline places yeah keep pumping out new shit and you want to do a special and as much as fun as i'd have with the life i and the kids it was the exact opposite

like that was just improv me and brian dicking around most of the time yeah like you're not You want to do a special. As much as fun as I'd have with the Li-Fi and the kids, it was the exact opposite. That was just improv and me and Brian dicking around most of the time. You're not getting better at anything. You're having a good time with your buddy. Right. You're not making your act stronger. No. Like piecing up your materials. No.

I remember last time I told Brian this, me and him did one at the comedy store. I don't know, like a year at least ago, a year and a half maybe. We got done. I was like, I'm done with these, dude. Wow. Oh, you had a weird one right there was one of them that came out weird at the comedy store it was just wasn't weird but it was clunky yeah yeah because we haven't been together in a while and we did that i'm like

dude this isn't the best product for you or me right this makes us look bad i feel like yeah it can right i think you got to respect what that is if you're going to do like a two-man show you got to coordinate the shit out of that. It requires a lot of work. You can't wing it, especially from people going from pain to see you do stand-up. They see your stand-up act, which is you know what it is. They go from seeing that to that. I felt like it was hurting

the brand more than anything. That makes sense. Yeah. I think Brian agreed too. But we did a show together with Ari and Big J, and that was fun. That was fun that was fun that was uh there was a all things comedy they're doing a festival down there brought us all in all things comedy is doing a lot of shit man they're killing it kicking ass they're doing specials they're doing uh they're doing the ian edwards special are they really that's dope oh yeah comedy central gave him special. But there's something with that. Ari, Theo, Brian, Big Jay and I were all talking about we could do the same way they did the

white comedy tour. Was it blue comedy tour or white comedy tour? Where the fuck it was? We could do that once a month. Just pick one city, do two big ass shows and get out. But announce a tour with it. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

That'd be fun. You know, and also like you're doing comedy clubs too, which is so important at this stage of like when you're trying to ramp up to a special in January. Yeah. You got to do a lot of comedy clubs because you get those two show nights in. Two show Friday, two show Saturday. Everything gets juicy. You usually have one Thursday, two Friday, two Saturday.

That's good. Thursday's a warm-up set. Yes. Working the kinks out. Thursday you get things popping. Get that bitch hot. Woo! You come in guns blazing on Friday.

I'll tell you what's weird to relate to fighting is I was like, go fuck, I'm about nine weeks out from the special. It almost feels like, damn, you got to, I don't know. You know who used to say that? Louis C.K. He used to treat it like it was a fight. He would go running and get in shape, run like five miles a day. He would ramp up actual physical training to prepare for a comedy special.

That's how I am. My diet's on point now. My diet, my workouts. Well, what I learned from this Sober October workout challenge, this fitness challenge that Ari and Tom and Bert and I did, was that when you work out a lot like that, you do a shit ton of cardio, you don't give a fuck. Your anxiety is severely, severely diminished. You feel so good. It's crazy.

When you do a lot of cardio, like I was doing on a normal day, any average day I might be working out three and a half hours. Too much. It's crazy. Crazy. Too much. But it was just on a normal day and at any average day, I might be working out three and a half hours. Too much. It's crazy. Too much. But it was just for a month. Yeah. But the point was that, and I don't think you need to do three and a half hours, but

you might need to do an hour. If you can do an hour of hard cardio, you don't give a fuck. That's what I try to do every day. You chill. Yeah. 60 minutes of hard where I'm burning 800,000 calories. That's all you have to do. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. 60 minutes of hard where I'm burning 800,000 calories. That's all you have to do. That's it. Yeah. Dude, I feel really good when I work out like that. If I don't,

I feel like my demeanor, I'm not as fun. I'm not as outgoing. Right. Right. Right. As creative. Like I don't feel great. Dude, I was saying that if it was a pill, if you give someone a pill and that pill could make me feel like I feel after I work out for three and a half hours. Oh, I'd be addicted to it. I would take that pill every day. 100%. That's some I don't give a fuck juice. It's called Oxycontin, Joe, but whatever. No.

No, I hear you. Because it doesn't change who you are. True. Like, if you gave me a spelling bee, I'd fuck up the same words. I'd count the same. And that was the thing that was interesting. Like, I was worried that it was going to negatively affect my podcast because I was worried that I'd be too tired.

I'd come in here and I'd just be ragdolled and beaten down but i wasn't you actually had more energy right i had a lot of energy like jamie i didn't seem like any slower or anything did i you know what fucks me up and we've talked about this before what's that fucking yoga classes dude i do a 90 minute yoga class and i come in here i am way more fucked up fuck yeah because that Because that- Mental energy with that. It's not just that. It's like what you're doing to elevate your heart rate is so much more exhausting to your muscles than say running. For sure. Because you can't hold a yoga pose

for as long as you can run. You can run like for hours. And you've been doing it. It's a movement you're doing. And you're going left, left right it's just like this steady push relax push relax and your your your legs have like a half a second to recover with each step that's what's going on but it's different because yoga you can never do that like when you're in a yoga pose like you're in um you know a triangle pose or something like that how long can can you hold that? What do you do? Can you hold it a minute?

Can you hold it five minutes? Maybe you're in fucking tremendous shape and you could do the bow pose where you hold your foot and you put it over behind you and you have your hand. Maybe you could do that for five minutes if you were in fucking tremendous, tremendous shape. But damn, that is

hard to do. What is that, Jamie? Scorecards. Everyone had green zombie up? Yeah. Except for one judge. One judge had it even going in. Other judges had green on every card. So someone had

2-2, others had 3-1. 3-1, 3-1, 2-2. Fuck, man. Interesting. What a KO. What an amazing KO. Alright, let's wrap this bitch up KO. What an amazing KO. All right. Let's wrap this bitch up. Everybody out there being affected by the fires, we genuinely and sincerely hope you and your family are safe. It sucks if you lose your place, but it's way worse if you're dead.

What's positive is your friends and your family and your loved ones, and that means a lot to me right now as I'm thinking about it, even though I'm evacuated. And I'm sure I already know people that for sure have lost their houses but uh we'd feel a whole lot worse we lost them you know it's hard to deal with it's rough it's not a good thing but it's also a humbling reminder of where we are and that nature is a thing to be respected and feared and when fire gets out of hand, there's some serious fucking consequences. And I don't know what solutions there are

to fixing something like this, but I think if there was an invading army that came here and did the kind of damage and devastation that these forest fires have done, there would be some serious steps to protect us against that army. If there's a profit to be made in figuring out how to protect people

from this kind of fucking horrendous fire like i don't know what it would be i don't know what would be hiring way more firefighters or putting way more precautions in place or or hiring people and donald trump creating new jobs to clear all this dead wood in the in the forests and and to figure out some way to get to the scene quicker and have flights that are ready on standby filled with water at all times. I don't know what the fuck it would be. But it seems to me that these things, when they get out of hand like this, leave people

unusually helpless. We're oftentimes helpless to nature. Nothing you can do. But this is one of those unusually helpless moments where're oftentimes helpless to nature but this is this is one of those unusually helpless moments where it makes you really understand how dangerous fire is and uh nothing but love and respect out there for all the firefighters and first responders and all these people that are taking care of people and and shout out to whitney cummings saving animals our girls out there in malibu saving animals bringing them to shelter she saved horses chickens and shit she likes animals better people yeah she's

always been an animal person Papa Whitney Cummings alright thank you to you all much love bye