The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - November 24, 2018

Episode Date: November 24, 2018

Joe is joined by Eddie Bravo, Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub to watch the fights on November 24, 2018. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's nice, right? Very little. It's so linear. Here we go. Three, two, one. My phone's off. Oh! We're live, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:00:09 This is a Fight Companion podcast. If you've ever listened to one of these before, oftentimes we don't even watch the fights. We talk about more things. Yes, but we're watching the fights, certainly at least some of the time. There's more to life than fights. Did you guys decide to go, did you call each other and say, let's double blast with the lilac, or is that just a coincidence?
Starting point is 00:00:28 This is just luck. It's a happy coincidence. Geniuses wear purple. I just decided to wear purple. I got here, he's wearing purple, and he's got a fucking purple car, so he double purpled. Yeah, well, that car infuriates me.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Now, I've read that lilac, and I'm going to call that lilac, is actually a head turner with the ladies. They're drawn to the color. Really? Yes. So they say if you're going to go out on a date or you're going to go out on the town, you might want to throw some lilac on your body.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Or maybe ladies will see the lilac and think you're trying too hard. Maybe, but it soothes my eye and I can't take my eyes off your torso. But yet you don't like his car. No, his car. Whoa. Well. You told Joe that? Well, let's get rid of that. It inf don't like his car. No, his car. Whoa. Well. You told Joe that off the house? Well, let's get rid of that. That infuriates you.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah, well, that's. Well, he doesn't know. He goes, why do you have a wing on the back? Yeah, that fin is ridiculous. That keeps the ass down. Silly fuck. But we don't need that fin, huh? You do.
Starting point is 00:01:15 They actually make a GT3. You're in a windbreaker. You're in a touring package. Hey. The GT3. Hey, you just attacked my personage. What? The windbreaker?
Starting point is 00:01:22 I mean, he's like one of them jogging dad type characters. No, I'm not. I'm an athlete. And athletes keep their muscles warm. Educatebreaker? I mean, he's like one of them jogging dad type characters. No, I'm not. I'm an athlete and athletes keep their muscles warm. Educate him on the wing, though. The wing keeps the ass end down. That's what it does. It's down force.
Starting point is 00:01:32 But here's my question. How come you buy a car in LA traffic where you got to keep the ass down? Oh, it's in the traffic, bro. You know I have one of those too, right? You know I have one with a wing.
Starting point is 00:01:40 My GG3 RS. Whale tail. Isn't that what they're called? No, that's different. A whale tail is like like It's old school It's like It's different It's like the turbos
Starting point is 00:01:48 They had a whale tail It's like a flat looking Kind of thing That is a part Of the rear deck This is Lifted above the rear deck Brackets
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's an actual tail It has brackets It's more effective The whale tail was old It is It's more effective They don't have whale tails anymore? No
Starting point is 00:02:03 The whale tails went out With the 1993 Turbo. They're expensive to buy now, though. I guess you kind of- You're like in a whale tail now. I like that. Cars are interesting. Cars like that are interesting because it's like this psychological thing for all guys.
Starting point is 00:02:15 It's like, at least I know I have the power under my hood. I'm never going to use it, but I know I got it. You still have a Tesla? We all want to know we have it. Listen to what you're talking about. You're a beta male, bro. No, I'm not, dude. Just because I'm in a windbreaker.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Could there be more beta coming? No. I'm a windbreaker. You drive a Tesla. I'm about utility, bro. If you drive fast, it literally results in hundreds of pounds of downforce. You don't drive that fast. You don't have to drive that fast to feel the difference.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Have you ever been out of second gear in that car? Of course he has. Dude, I go very fast. It's a double clutch. I hope the police are listening. You don't drive that fast You don't have to drive that fast To feel the difference Have you ever been out of second gear In that car? Of course he has Dude I go It's very fast It's a double clutch I hope the police are listening I really do You beta bro
Starting point is 00:02:50 Because you're irresponsible You beta But you have that fucking Tesla That thing's fast as shit Well my buddy You know Frank's got that Frank Grillo has that Why don't you put the headphones on
Starting point is 00:03:00 So we don't talk over each other He's got that Dodge 800 horsepower He has like a Hellcat That's souped up Oh yeah I beat him Off the line
Starting point is 00:03:07 He's not going through A midlife crisis What are you saying I beat him off the line Oh so you're racing Irresponsibly on the streets With children Oh wow
Starting point is 00:03:13 Might drop a ball In the traffic Fast and furious Started revving his engine Don't rev your engine at me I'm good But if you rev your engine at me I'll meet you halfway
Starting point is 00:03:20 Why do you care Your engine doesn't even rev Exactly Wouldn't you just Be cool about it Let him make his noise You're going to get that New Roadster The one that they launched Into space I mean, I'll meet you halfway. Why do you care? Your engine doesn't even rev. Exactly. Wouldn't you just be cool about it? Dude, I'm... Let him make his noise and pollute the environment. You're going to get that new Roadster, the one that they launched into space?
Starting point is 00:03:29 That is dope as fuck. You're going to get that? That thing's got a 600-mile range. I haven't seen it. Yeah. The new Tesla? Because it's lighter, and they have more room for batteries, and they're more efficient with the battery software and everything now.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Does it not look so gay? That's my only problem with the Tesla. Does it look cool? gay? That's my only problem with the Tesla. Oh, the road still looks dope. The road still looks dope. It looks like a combination of a Ferrari and a Lotus. What? You never seen it? No.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Pull up that roadster. My problem with the Tesla right now is that the battery doesn't last long enough. It just doesn't. And I don't have anywhere to charge it. It'll get better, though. Like the newer ones, every year it'll get better, better, better. There it is. It can handle space. It's pretty dope. It can handle space. That's with the roof up. That's a beautiful car. Like the newer ones, every year it'll get better, better, better. There it is. It can handle space.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It's pretty dope. It can handle space. You know that. That's with the roof up. That's a beautiful car. Put the roof down. Show a picture of the roof down. Kids call it get the titties out.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Look at that. Damn. Look at that sun. 1.9 seconds? 1.9 seconds. What? 1.9 seconds to 60. That's a demon.
Starting point is 00:04:19 That car will make your fucking RS Porsche look like a slow. Watch your fucking tone. I got one, too. I know, but. It'll make mine. I'm getting one. 1. one too. I know, but... It'll make mine. I'm getting one. 1.9 seconds, 0 to 60. That is a dope car.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Dude. You know what? 250 miles an hour, dude. Oh my God. I don't give a fuck. 621 mile range. It just doesn't do it for me, dude. Bro, I'm getting it.
Starting point is 00:04:35 That doesn't do it for you? Nope. That car. I need a V10. I need a fucking V8 behind that bad boy. You have an inline six in your car. Inline six. I need something pretty gnarly.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Look at that, though. Look at that. Dude, I'm getting that car. Dude, that is a radical looking car. Just so I can be faster than Brennan. Just so I can laugh at you. You'll be a lot faster. You could drive that car to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Really? You could also suck a dude off. You could suck a dude off. What? In that car. In that car. I wouldn't do that unless he was wearing a lilac. Unless he was.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I don't know, man. I just can't get behind the electric car. You will. Well, you've seen the Porsche? You've seen the Porsche electric car coming out? If anyone's going to do it, it's going to be Porsche. The Porsche looks like dog shit compared to that. Dude, it's like I don't even know you anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:13 How much is that? That Taycan? Dude, the Porsche Taycan electric car? You've seen the all-electric one? It looks like shit. Jamie, bring that shit up. Porsche, I think it's called a Taycan or something like that. Is it?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Taycan. It looks very similar to that, but way cooler. How much is the Tesla? How much is that Roadster Tesla? They don't know yet because it hasn't been released, but probably 200. Yeah. Look at that. What?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Ew. What? That does not look nearly as good. No, it's a nice looking car. They're not as good as the Tesla. It's okay. They're pretty similar, but it's a Porsche. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:05:39 It's a beautiful car. The Tesla looks way better. Nah, I disagree. And I'm not saying it because my good friend Elon Musk makes it. By the way, we're good friends. Oh, I forgot. I like that that's when he texts me. Dude, that's not dope.
Starting point is 00:05:48 We text each other. I text Elon Musk. I'm his friend. That's your best friend. I bought him a clock. See that clock over there? I got him one of those. Got him a custom TGT Studios clock.
Starting point is 00:05:57 No big deal. Nothing weird about that. Don't be scared of that weed. Is he still trying to build that subway underneath the LA? That motherfucker's trying to build everything. If you talk to him in private, I wish I could try his brain out for a day and find out what's going on in there. But it's just rattling around information constantly. Things are flying around. And he's just grabbing it and stuffing it into boxes and digging holes under the ground and shooting things to the moon.
Starting point is 00:06:23 His brain just doesn't stop. He's single? He is now. Holla. When you talk to guys like that who are lateral thinkers, like you realize, like the guy who made me feel really dumb and almost like a fraud was? Brendan Schaub?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Not Brendan Schaub. Peter Thiel. I was listening to him talk. And I went, yeah, I met him. I had dinner at his house tonight. And I was like, he was talking. And I realized that everything I say is basically an amalgam of the things I've read or heard. And he's one of the ones that write those things.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. He just thinks up things on his own. Well, you know, he started PayPal with Elon. God damn. That's how those boys got rich? Yeah. PayPal? That's one of the ways.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Well, whenever you think you're a black belt, you realize you're a white belt. Here you go, buddy. Pass that shit to me. He's supposed to be going out. Elon went on the podcast. When he asked him a question, though, he really downloaded that data before he gave an answer. Oh, boy. Long pauses.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I would say he's enthusiastic, almost like a child with certain things, like with his blowtorch gun, stuff like that. But when it comes to thinking about things, he'll just sit down and pause before he gives you an answer. He wants to like really consider it. Very smart. Because I just go blah, blah, blah. And then fucking Tesla. He's thoughtful. But that's also one of the charms of you is that you say stupid shit
Starting point is 00:07:38 that you wish you didn't say right after you said it. Right after you said it, I know he's like, God damn, I probably should have said that. Yeah, my entire career, sir. But look how well it's going. I mean, you're doing a Showtime special fucking two and a half years into comedy. Not even, right? How many years into comedy?
Starting point is 00:07:54 By the time you film it, two and change. Two and change. That's outstanding. I say stick with what got you to the dance. Keep letting that verbal diarrhea... Just keep going until I get assassinated. Yeah, get assassinated Yeah You'll get assassinated Things will get
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah You'll be fine You're saying funny shit It's not mean Why do you think You'd get assassinated What's that guy got going In his stomach
Starting point is 00:08:13 You talking some mad shit Which guy I say crazy shit Hey what's the referee wearing The referee's like Wearing something Around his waist A paunch
Starting point is 00:08:19 No no no It's like a It's an Some sort of electronics It's a fanny pack Is it? Maybe he just has a fat dick Maybe he's
Starting point is 00:08:28 No, see what I'm saying? On both sides He's carrying something It looks like in the front Maybe it is a fanny pack Damn, we don't know who's fighting Jing Ling Jing Ling
Starting point is 00:08:37 He is a beast Jing Ling I do know the Chinese fella Yes, he is Is he? How long has he been in the UFC? Folks watching at home Four minutes and 37, 36, 35, 34, 33 seconds into the first round.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Dude, fuck this card. If it ain't Chuck Tito, I ain't watching. Oh, shit. They're fighting today, right? I guess. Yeah, that's fine. They're fighting tonight. Is there an undercard for that?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Or are they just this time? There's an undercard with like 19 fights. They both look in great shape. Right? Yes. They both look in great shape. Chuck looks in great shape. Chuck has a gigantic vein across his bicep. They've been tested, too.
Starting point is 00:09:14 That's a good sign. Pretty strict. Chuck always had that like kind of his belly always sticks out. We call it the power gut. Power gut. He's always had that. Even when he was at the top of the food chain. When he was the best light heavyweight...
Starting point is 00:09:24 Oh, shit. Zawada clipped him. Damn, Jing Leng. Even when Chuck was at the top of the food chain, he always had that. That's just how he's built. He's just built odd. Tito was pointing at it. It was really funny. He was making fun of him, but he was wearing a shirt.
Starting point is 00:09:39 It didn't make any sense. It was strange. The whole thing's been a little strange. I think they should have done like a, because those guys should go out on their shields as Hall of Famers. I think, I wish, you know, Chuck said when they wanted to do the fight, he called Dana. Dana was like, get the fuck out. It ain't happening.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Good luck, though. And so I wish they would have done like a tough finale or like a big card, and they're just like a feature fight or some shit. I want to see it. I support everyone's right to do whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it as long as they're not hurting anybody. And this goes into that. I support your right to bull ride.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I support your right to skydive. Do whatever you want to do, man. And if these guys, what is our thought? If they don't do this, they're going to live forever? No. They know the risk. They're big boys. The real question is, should they be doing it? They went through all the risks. They're big boys. The real question is, should they be doing it?
Starting point is 00:10:27 They went through all the testing. Because I said, I had Chuck and Tito both on my show. I asked Chuck, I'm like, you've gone through all the testing with the commission in California? Because when I was fighting, going through California commissions, they were by far the strictest. You do not want to fight here. If you're taking protein powder, they're the worst. Chuck's like, I went through all the California commission shit. I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I'm a big fan of this guy who runs it in California. Andy Foster. He's a beast. He's really on top of the ball. He's super proactive. He's really smart. He used to fight himself. Lifelong martial artist. Full respect for the sport. Super progressive about people's
Starting point is 00:11:02 weight cuts. Doesn't want people cutting a shitload of weight in his state. He tries to monitor their hydration. He wants to get your weight out in advance. He's ahead of it with everything. He's not a dinosaur. No, he's ahead of it also with weight classes. They instituted more weight classes in California
Starting point is 00:11:17 early on. Are you guys aware of how 1FC does their weigh-ins? What have you guys talked about on the podcast? How do they do it? Dan Askren explained it. How do they do it? There's no weight cutting, man. There's no weight cutting. They do hydration tests. They do hydration tests. So you fight whatever is closest to your natural
Starting point is 00:11:34 weight, which I think makes sense. One FC, 100% is doing it better than anybody else. 100%. You know what the problem with that is, though? Some people have bodies. They stop the weight cutting. It's not necessary. They stop the weight cutting. It's not necessary. So it's the divisions.
Starting point is 00:11:48 The division is what you weigh. So Ben Askren went up to 185. He was 170, and they jumped him up to 185, which is like his real walk-around weight. How do they determine what that weight is? There's got to be an official weigh-in at some point. Look, you could always manipulate your weight and stay healthy within a certain range of your discipline. Still weigh safe. And you would still be hydrated. Look, you could always manipulate your weight and stay healthy within a certain range of your discipline. Still way safer than what they're doing. And you would still be hydrated. So if you, like say if you said your best weight is 165, you just decided that.
Starting point is 00:12:12 All you would have to do is make sure you got your body weight down and do it over a long period of time so that you're doing cardio, you're eating right, you're making sure. And then keep your weight in that range. Like you could decide to fluctuate 10 pounds one way or the other and still be fairly healthy. It's just a matter of how much certain kinds of exercise you do and how much time. But the thing about the certain kinds of exercise is once people got some power, they don't want to give that power up. And if you're like 175 but jacked and you really would be better off 165 but a little thinner, you know, like cardio-wise, a lot of guys don't want to give up that power. But also, you know, some guys are huge for their weight class,
Starting point is 00:12:48 and for whatever reason, like Darren Till, and who's the guy in Bellator who lost Rory Markham in the title fight, Rory McDonald? Lima, Douglas Lima. Those guys are giant for their weight class. Beast.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I think sometimes some people have the kind of body, like some people have a body, like they're 230, but their weight's all on their ass and legs, and they have upper bodies and maybe that's not as good as someone like i don't know who has like they're until that's all well and good but the real thing should be what do you really weigh yeah all the other stuff is bullshit all the other stuff is just we've just agreed upon this because we've been doing it this way for so long it It should be get to a healthy weight. What do you weigh?
Starting point is 00:13:27 And there's got to be more weight classes. It's the only way you're going to fix it. All we are is copying wrestling. How do they test the hydration? They make you urinate. And they check your urine. And they check the weight of your urine. That's one of the ways.
Starting point is 00:13:41 There's a bunch of different sophisticated ways to do it. The weight of your urine that's one of the ways there's a bunch of different sophisticated ways to do it but the weight of your yeah because the more minerals and the more uh stuff is in your your urine it indicates how much uh water you have in your body like what you know what percentage of water you have in your body whether or not you're dehydrated just make sure i might be wrong about that so if you pee so when you pee uh a clear that means you're more hydrated yes yes and the darker it is necessarily no none if you've taken a bunch of vitamins yeah they're still p dark bright yellow yeah oh my shit will be toxic some of it does come out in your urine but some of it still is getting absorbed in your body
Starting point is 00:14:22 it's not all of it that's going out in your urine. It's still a good idea to take multivitamins. 1FC hired Misha Tate, too. She's moving there. She's going to move to Singapore. I think it's a smart move, man. She's a smart girl. Singapore's a great place to live. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I mean, they might seriously be looking at her as a big-time executive, like the female Dana White for Asia. Sounds like that's what they're doing. Well, Rich Franklin's doing it, too, though, right? Doesn't he have a big time executive like the female dana white for for asia sounds like that's what they're doing well rich franklin's doing it too though right doesn't he have a big role over there as well yeah huge role what does he do over there i'm not sure what he does but he he's got a he's got like some kind of executive job and does he live in singapore as well yep damn frank you gotta live in singapore you have to right mishaisha was headed there They're not gonna commit to you Unless you commit to them Now did
Starting point is 00:15:07 Brandon Vera just won Did he Was that in one FC Did you see his fight Yeah Dude Brandon Vera He took like two years Dude still doing it
Starting point is 00:15:14 A monster in heavyweight He looks amazing Dude he looks so good The guy beats no punk either And he's starched Wasn't he an Olympic Greco guy Brandon Vera
Starting point is 00:15:22 No He was a very good wrestler. He was a high-level Greco, yeah. Very good wrestler. And you know what the funny thing is, really what he's known for is his kickboxing. Amazing kickboxing. You know, he had a hard time in the UFC, dude,
Starting point is 00:15:37 because there was this one period of time where they were in contract negotiations, and I feel like he lost a lot of momentum there. Because remember, he beat Frank Mir. Yeah, Frank Mir. And then goes, I'm going to be the light heavyweight champion and heavyweight champion. Yeah. What's up?
Starting point is 00:15:53 And then there were issues. Yeah. Then there were issues. And then he was out for a while. Yeah, he was out for a long time. It was tough, man. He got his nose fucking... He came back.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Didn't he also fight Fabricio Verdum And he got trapped under the mount Wasn't it Verdum who TKO'd him Was it Verdum I feel like Verdum just handled him I remember you realized he had really good Jiu Jitsu Remember he submitted What's that dude's name Brazilian cat
Starting point is 00:16:19 Fuck I'm forgetting his name now Oswario Silva Big dude Yeah big dude Yeah he had skills dude He trained at 10th Planet I was there with him At 10th Planet one day
Starting point is 00:16:30 Way back in the day He dropped in Bomb squad days He dropped in a few times Yeah But he was also trained By a homeboy Rob Kamen
Starting point is 00:16:38 No Yes For kickboxing But Jiu Jitsu The black dude He was in San Diego The Alliance He's been with the Alliance forever but he was a black belt
Starting point is 00:16:46 who's the black dude that and he turned uh lloyd irvin yeah he was with mike yeah exactly he's a lloyd irvin dude brandon bear has a bad motherfucking skills well what's crazy is how does he wrestling and his grappling was like what you would think if you looked at his skill set but it's like he he just got so good at striking early on. He was known more of a striker than anything. Oh, by far. Dude, remember when Frank Mir came back after the motorcycle accident? Like, here's Brandon Vera.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And Brandon Vera went, cool story. Knee, knee, knee. And just fucked him up. Yeah, he fucked him up. It was horrible. Doesn't he have a head kick knockout, too? Brandon Vera? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Dude, you see that bunch? A bunch. I meant like in the UFC. Big time head kick knockout. Well, he knocked He's got a bunch of those. He's got a bunch. I meant like in the UFC. Big time head kick knockout. Well, he knocked out Frank Mir with a head kick. Who smashed his nose? His nose got so fucked up
Starting point is 00:17:32 in one fight. Remember? Brandon Barry's nose? Yeah, his nose was literally completely flat. He's had some great wins, He's had some tough fights,
Starting point is 00:17:39 man. But in one fight, you see him soccer kick dudes in the face? Dude, it's wrong. When they let him kick people on the ground, first of all, he's so much bigger now. You haven't seen him beat? No.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Dude, he's so jacked now. He's so jacked. And some poor soul he fought was like, oh, they're soccer kicks? Not worried. He's huge. So you're allowed to kick guys on the ground? When the guys are on the ground, he's soccer kicking them in the head. Crow cop Waterman style. It's bad, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:59 That's not a good rule. Look that up. I think that rules. Like on their back. It's fighting. Getting head kicked. Dude, but that soccer head kick, that'll make you rethink your entire life. The soccer head kick, there's so much power in that.
Starting point is 00:18:10 It's part of the game. It is probably the most powerful kick you could do, honestly. It's one of those weird kicks that doesn't really show up in martial arts, except if you allow someone to kick someone when they're down. Because that's the only time or wherever you can generate that kind of power. Because if you really think about it, like everything else, you've got to kind of teach your foot to do this. You've got to teach your body to do this.
Starting point is 00:18:33 You've got to teach yourself. But this. A kid does that. Everybody does that. You're talking about the Charlie Brown kids. That's the Charlie Brown. From like one foot away and just fucked it. And wham.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Everybody can do it. You know how violent that is? You can hold their head. You can. Really? Everybody can do that. Jamie, bring Brandon Vera up. First of all, Brandon Vera looks like a video game character now.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I need to see him because he used to be flat. His body was flat. No, he looks like a sagging off Street Fighter now. Dude, he looks like sagging off Street Fighter. Is that from eating a lot of steak? Yes. What do you think? He's like 240 now. Dude, he's a giant. He looks like Saginaw Street Fighter. Is that from eating a lot of steak? Yes. What do you think? He's like 230 now, 240 maybe?
Starting point is 00:19:09 Boom. Every bit of it. And that's just one. That's just one. Look at this. Wow. Look at this. Boom.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Oh, Jesus Christ. But this one is just. He's athletic as shit. That's not a bad one. That's just one. There's another one when he's head kicking the guy while the guy's down. He just soccer kicks the shit out of him. He was like the first real big time athlete that
Starting point is 00:19:26 I remember. But some people think that this is a better way to express fighting because this is realistic. I disagree. Oh, that's the back of the head. I think that's bad. I like it. Eddie loves that shit. Too barbaric, man. I would like to see headbutts.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Bring the headbutts back. Oh, this fight is over? No. In between rounds. We're not even paying attention to this fight at all. Bring the headbutts back. Oh, this fight is over? No. That's Cambodia. In between rounds. We're not even paying attention to this fight at all. We're watching extraneous fights. This is when people get mad. No one pays attention to these fights. Fucking watch it, man. This is a good fight.
Starting point is 00:19:52 This is actually a really good fight. You know, UFC Fight Pass is working on getting this league. I think it's in Burma where you just wrap your hands. It's Muay Thai kickboxing with head butts. Yeah. Legal. What is it called? Letchway? How do you say it? Yeah, it's called Lethway or something. Lethway, I think.
Starting point is 00:20:14 It's a fight league? They're working on getting that fight pass. It's crazy what that means. So they put ropes on their hands? Yeah, they wrap their hands up with something. I'm not sure. But the fact that headbutts are legal, holy shit. So Frank Grillo in Fight World
Starting point is 00:20:28 went to Cambodia and lived with them and studied with them. And the problem is they don't have ice in Cambodia. They're so poor. So when they get hit in the face and stuff, they just stay swollen. So between rounds.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Left way. Left way. I wonder how they say it. I wonder how you pronounce it. There's some epic shots, highlights of elbows, headbutts. Standing against the you pronounce it. There's some after-hits shots, highlights. Elbows, headbutts. Standing against the ropes.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Boom. Dude just dropped. And are you allowed to hit to the back of the head? I'm not sure about that. You know, Eddie and I have talked about this a hundred times, but it's an important fact that when you watch head kicks, there's a lot of the time head kicks are landing to the back of the head. Like you say you can't hit someone in the back of the head, right?
Starting point is 00:21:06 It's not supposed to be legal. If I go over your shoulder and I kick you, I'm kicking the back of your head. Did you ever see Ernesto? So do punches, though. Like a lot of right hands, a guy at turn, it hits him right in the fucking back of the head. Bring up Ernesto Hoost when he hits Maurice Green. Maurice Smith. Yeah. Dude, he wraps his head around your fucking head
Starting point is 00:21:27 And his neck just goes His neck just went That was tough I was good friends with Maurice when that was going on Maurice was fighting when He probably shouldn't have been Doing it anymore Well, Ernesto Host is
Starting point is 00:21:42 But I mean he was fighting Like pro kickboxing While he was also doing MMA Right And like Maurice Is a world class kickboxer But I really think For you to fight a guy Like Ernesto Hoost
Starting point is 00:21:52 You kind of have to be Kickboxing all the time Of course You gotta be all in Of course Yeah And Maurice Look at that
Starting point is 00:21:57 Yeah And Maurice Like for real Was a super skilled World champion kickboxer But he had been doing... Oh, my God. That's rough.
Starting point is 00:22:07 How do you... Look at that. He lifts his... Watch this. Dude, he was so good. Mr. Perfect. Remember his fights against Bob Sapp? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Those were fun, too. His fucking leg kicks, man. They're the best. Look at the way he punches, though. Yeah. Well, he did everything awesome. God. But the thing about him...
Starting point is 00:22:23 Didn't you know? Here's another one. Look at him now. He looks like a super fighter game, too, he did everything awesome. But the thing about him, didn't you know? Here's another one. Look at him now. He looks like a super fighter game too, right? Doesn't he look like some kind of video game character in these images? Well, then go to him early in his career. He was a bag of bones, man. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah, he was skinny. What do you think? He was like 160. Yeah, he was a good diet. Dude, for real, he was real thin. He was very long and almost like stylebender-like. And then he got super jacked later in his career as a damn crow cop. Dude, his leg kicks were sensational.
Starting point is 00:22:53 How about when Bob Sapp beat him? Yeah, right? Dude, twice. You think that was a real fight? Fuck yeah. You think those were real? Fuck yeah, that shit was real. Real to me.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Dude, Bob Sapp is a giant human being. 375. They faked a lot of fights, though. They faked a lot of fights. How dare you, Eddie Green. It's true, Avery. No, he's right. Did Bob Sapp have the fucked up shoulder, or was it Ernesto?
Starting point is 00:23:11 Remember, they kept hitting it, and that's what stopped the fight? No, no, no. Mary had a fucked up shoulder? No, that was a different fight. I think you're thinking of a different fight. No, I'm not. One of them had a really fucked up shoulder, and he kept kicking it. And he was like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Ernesto kept kicking it? Yeah, he was like, no, no, no. Maybe that was Bob Sapp. That had to be one that he lost, because he won the two fights that he had against Ernesto that I'm aware of. Bob Sapp did. Didn't he, Eddie? Bob Sapp beat Ernesto.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah, he beat him. That's all I know is that he beat him once. He had a fucked up shoulder. I don't remember the second fight or if they even fought twice or three times. I just remember Bob Sapp beating him. You know, when you really think about it, man,, you know Maurice Smith worked with Bob Sapp as well, taught him a lot about kickboxing. But when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:23:48 Maurice was like the first real high-level kickboxer to become successful at MMA. The first world champion. Remember when he fought Conan Silvera and head kicked him? Everybody was like, you can't beat a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. You're definitely not going to beat him. And Coleman.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Remember when he fought Coleman? Dude, I was there. I was there. So was him. And Coleman. Remember when he fought Coleman? Dude. And he was there. Yeah. I was there. So was I. We were at that fight together. That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:09 We were there together. God damn. How long ago was that? 1996. Holy shit. Right? 96, 97? No, I think it was 97.
Starting point is 00:24:16 97. It might have even been 98. He kept saying, come on, come on, come on. Come on, Mark. Ground and pound me. Ground and pound me. Boom. Come on, Mark.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Come on, ground and pound me. Come on, ground and pound me. me. Ground and pound me. Come on, Mark. Ground and pound me. Come on. Ground and pound me. And you saw it. Mark, at one point, got kicked one too many times. He just went, stopped, and everybody went, oh! He did take down Maury Smith a couple times. The problem was Maury Smith has a very good defensive guard.
Starting point is 00:24:41 High-level recovery. And fantastic cardio. Who was he working with? He was working with Frank Shamrock. Did a lot of work with Frank Shamrock. High level recovery. And fantastic cardio. Who was he working with? He was working with Frank Shamrock. Matt Hume. Did a lot of work with Frank Shamrock. Frank Shamrock. Matt Hume.
Starting point is 00:24:50 He was good friends with Shamrock. He was also an easy 230, like just a natural 230. Oh, Jenga Lang. He actually played lockdown too. Yeah. Yeah, he did. Yeah, look, Maury Smith is a smart guy. And his kickboxing was so high level, man.
Starting point is 00:25:04 When he started fighting these mma fighters and they realized that he could defend himself off of his back but if you're standing up with him you're just fucked man yeah the problem was mark coleman wasn't um never really worked on his guard passing back then you know what i mean he just he just assumed that when you take someone down you just get on top of them and beat the shit out of them. But that's true if you don't have any kind of guard. But Maurice Smith had a professional defensive guard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Yeah. And also, this is the headbutt days. That was headbutt days. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they fought with gloves on either. The guard stance was different. Did they have gloves?
Starting point is 00:25:42 You would overhook here. They had gloves, right? Yeah, they definitely had gloves. A sidekick? Do you remember the most important guard position when headbutts are allowed? Oh, got to grab the back of the head. No. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Overhook, overhook. He just won with a sidekick. With a front foot sidekick. Straight to the gut. Damn. He's a beast, man. He's had some great fights in the UFC. Man. John Jones dropped Vitor Belfort with a front leg sidekick. Straight to the gut. Damn. A front foot sidekick. He's a beast, man. He's had some great fights in the UFC. Man.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Jon Jones dropped Vitor Belfort with a front leg sidekick once. That was amazing. I've never seen that. That was a front foot sidekick. Front leg sidekick, one of the most underrated kicks. People just don't do it that good. Do you think Vitor Belfort's cage side tonight with Chuck Tielman rushes the cage? And says, I won't fight both you pussies.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But he's just fucking juiced to the gills. And we're like, yeah. It probably will happen. Yeah, it'd be sick. If they'd let him. If the UFC let him go over there. If they let him leave. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I bet Dana will. Listen, man. And they'll have him, too. You know, if they just got to regulate medications, make sure that everything's okay. Come on. I mean, if they're testing Chuck and Tito You gotta test Vitor too
Starting point is 00:26:47 Vitor can't fight in Cali Let's not do that Okay Let's only have him fight in like Let's see me on an Indian reservation What weight was this? What weight was this? I don't know
Starting point is 00:26:57 185? 170 Yeah Is it lightweight? Big 170 years Dude how about Patsanibbio versus Neil Magny Yeah man he looked really good
Starting point is 00:27:04 Patsanibbio's a real problem for people. He looks really good. Fuck, he's good, man. Neil Magny, I don't know if it's the jet lag or what. He's my boy, but it was a late start, and he got eight the fuck up. Yeah, he got chewed up. He got chewed up. He said he got poked in the eye early in the first round, and he just couldn't decide depth.
Starting point is 00:27:20 He had no idea what to do, so he's just always waiting. Patsanibbio. That's a real problem man and you know there's a solution in the works i can't talk about it i'm sworn to secrecy eye pokes goggles yeah no they've uh they have a better glove design that they're working on right now that someone's working i can't say anything i already said too much try and keko hands dude i also heard uh they're doing something about the rumor it's a super rumor i don't start anything you saw it in 2019 i might be like really really boom look at
Starting point is 00:27:53 that sidekick to the body and then nasty left hands you mean they might get rid of usada and we're back to the old days that's crazy i don't know if they were getting rid of it But maybe a little That is so crazy Sidekick to the body But especially the way he threw it I mean he really got his weight behind it You could fuck people up with that man Set of lips on him It's like we all accept that the front leg side
Starting point is 00:28:18 Or the turning side kick or spinning back kick We all accept that puts people out right Well how much harder is your turning side kick than your front leg side kick way harder yeah but significantly but how much does it take really to make your body cave in because my front leg side side kick is way harder than my left hook way harder your front foot front leg side kick really so yeah so if you if you think like of course you can left hook someone in the body and drop them and fuck them up bad.
Starting point is 00:28:46 You hit them in the liver, right? Well, why wouldn't you think that you could do that also with a front leg sidekick on a regular basis? Yeah. You just got to have a quicker snap to it. That's what most of these guys- It takes a long time to develop. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:28:56 It takes, you got to develop that quick snap and that's what most guys are missing. Most guys, it comes out too slow. So it's like a push. The body's more designed for a left hook. You can keep the power in your left hook probably until you're in your 60s versus a front kick is an athletic move. There's really no heavyweight to kick that much. No.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Well, Volkov. A little bit, but not like crazy. Volkov is a good kicker. Yeah. But nothing like crazy. No. Nothing like a crow cop type character. No.
Starting point is 00:29:26 There's no one in the UFC right now. For the big guys, there's really not. That's a kicker. Who else? Well, there must be someone we're not thinking of. Marcin Tabura kicks a lot. But he's not like a Barbosa. Not like a heavyweight Barbosa.
Starting point is 00:29:40 There's no like just monster with the kicks. Yeah, I was hoping that was going to be something we would acquire, right? Like, get some sort of Rico Verhoeven type character. Yeah. Because he's fighting MMA, and he's training at AKA. Well, listen, stand-up-wise, he's on not just one level, but so many levels above most people in MMA. Rico Verhoeven is a it's a monster as far as
Starting point is 00:30:06 strict stand-up but that doesn't always come out it doesn't translate no it doesn't translate you gotta have you gotta like the distance is different the timing your stance verhoeven is something special and he's a he's a big giant guy have you ever seen him no crazy is he a obviously a dutch guy one of those giant milk fed dutch really yeah he's uh he's about 240 plus pounds and the guy has mad cardio it's one of the crazy things about him he puts a crazy pace on these guys and he's a striker have you seen some of his mma fights no who the fuck is fighting that poor soul i mean he's just there you have mercy you want some of that fuck is? What the fuck is going on? You want some of that?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah, see if you can find a highlight reel. Oh, I mean, I'd have to use my kicks. Dude, and he's at A.B., and he's at A.K., training with D.C., Kane. Dude, hey, guys, I've sparred. Whoa. What is this? Bro, what the fuck are you showing us, Jamie? He's searching on your ass right there.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Hey, don't put, don't you do that. I thought he was about to be his boyfriend for a second. He's a giant Dutchman. he's a giant dutchman he's a giant dutchman find a highlight reel he's a monster dude great hair too and he's a young guy
Starting point is 00:31:13 I mean I don't even know that guy survived too he looks like my uncle he can take a beating no that big guy is supposed to be super skill. He looks like my uncle. He can take a beating. No, that big guy's supposed to be super tough. For sure. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:31:28 People like that kind of shit. You know, it's like... Oof. Goddamn. People love when Big Roy wins by knockout. They trust... Yes, they do.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Wow, look at that. Isn't it weird? That guy must do fucking tons of cardio. He just... His gut just stays. He just ate the wrong food, bro. Look at that fucking combo.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Look at his kicks, man. I mean, Rico Verhoeven. Go to his MMA fight. Go to his MMA fight. Some guy gets fucking starched. And you can't, he's not fighting experienced dudes. Wait, wait, wait. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:31:58 What are you doing? I was going to his MMA fight. Who's running this shit, man? You can't listen? I'm all over the place, Jamie. His kicks are so awful. You were trying to watch some of this stuff. God, knees kicks.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Oh! Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is right. How old is he? I don't even think he's 30. 17. Boom! He's 15 years old.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Russian? No, he's Dutch. If I had to guess, I would say he's like 29. How old is he? I'd say he's in his 30s. You can't check it? The Dutch are the tallest people in the world, right? They're the biggest people in the world in general.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Are they? Yeah. They're giant people. I don't know if they're the biggest people in the world, but they average. I heard they're the tallest people in the world on average. Dude, I'd love to see him and Alistair Overeem go out in MMA. A couple of big boys. Alistair would take them down for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Alistair's a very good grappler. But Alistair would definitely stand up with them for a little bit. For sure. Which is what he does. But he would take him down for sure. Alistair's a very good grappler. But Alistair would definitely stand up with him for a little bit. For sure. Which is what he does, but he would take him down. Alistair, very underrated grappler. Oh, amazing grappler. Yeah, and his ground and pound will fuck you up. It's a real problem.
Starting point is 00:32:57 He's used dome for his guillotine for a little bit. Yeah, and it's also he's just had so many more MMA fights. He's been fighting for 100 years. Yeah. He's good at everything. But Verhoeven, he has an advantage over basically everybody right now in heavyweight. Saki has that smooth build, too, where he's just like, you know what? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Look at him. But what's interesting is Saki, what is he fighting, 185 in the UFC? Yeah. Or no, 205. 205. But he should be a 185-er. Yeah, that's what it is, right? Yeah, he should be fighting 185-er. Yeah, that's what it is, right? Yeah, he should be fighting 185.
Starting point is 00:33:27 What's that, bro? 29. 29 years old. Van Hoeven. 29 years old. Van Hoeven. Rico Verhoeven. So is he in the UFC yet or no?
Starting point is 00:33:34 No. He's making his way through smaller organizations. So show me one of his MMA fights. Holy shit. He fights MMA? Yes, bro. Yeah. Some poor soul who's 0-1 is fighting him. Rico Ver MMA? Yes, bro. Yeah. Some poor soul
Starting point is 00:33:45 who's 0-1 is fighting him. Rico Verhoeven. Rico Verhoeven. Verhoeven. Verhoeven. He's a real problem. And he's training with Kane
Starting point is 00:33:52 in D.C. Heavyweight. What? Every bit of heavy. He's huge, dude. I mean, he's like 6'4". He better get that jiu-jitsu together, though.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Isn't he about 6'4"? He's a big boy. He's a big boy. Big boy and 240 jacked. Don't let the gold snitch on him though. Maybe not. There's been a lot of great strikers coming. Let's wait and see what happens
Starting point is 00:34:11 next year. He's got to get that jiu-jitsu together. Oh, for sure, right? Yeah. What do you think is happening? Again, rumor on super dark web rumor is that there's going to be a change with USADA moving forward a little bit. Is this him, Jamie, in this video?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Oh, shit. He took the guy down. Nice. Maybe he's good at jiu-jitsu. He's an athlete. Look, he's mounting him. Oh, the body. Dude, you do not want that guy on top of you. Oh, shit. Looks like, who knows, maybe he's really good on the ground. Body. Oh, shit. Dude, you do not want that guy on top of you. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Looks so weird.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Looks like, who knows? Maybe he's really good on the ground. Show me that again, Jamie. Show me the beginning part of it again. This must have been a while ago if it's on Inside MMA. He's still doing that high cover up, which obviously worked there. Man, he had to take the dude down. Yeah, that was a wild little exchange
Starting point is 00:35:07 I mean that dude did not I mean they came to throw at each other That guy was not avoiding him I like how he's punching the ribs from the mount Who does that? His most recent fight he starts so hard He can hit you so hard You get a real striker on top of you
Starting point is 00:35:22 That actually can turn their hips in Generate the force Do you remember when real striker on top of you that actually could turn their hips in. Generate the force. Yeah. Do you remember when Crow Cop got on top of Gabriel Gonzaga? The rematch, the revenge fight. The elbows? He smashed him with elbows.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Oh, they were horrific. Horrible. Horrific. And then Gabriel got good with elbows from the bottom. Didn't he fuck somebody up from the bottom? Look at the Uri Faber in this corner there. Look at this. Here it is. This is more...
Starting point is 00:35:51 The video is more recent. This is Rico Verhoeven. This looks like the same fight, doesn't it? How many has he had? That looks like the same guy. I don't know how it would be. It's the same guy. For a kickboxer, not bad passing. That looks like the same guy. I don't know how it would be. No, it's the same guy. Yeah, same guy.
Starting point is 00:36:08 For a kickboxer, not bad passing. Yeah, I mean, he's going to learn. He's high. He's also smart. So what got him to become an elite kickboxer, that kind of intelligence as well as hard work, he's just going to translate that to MMA. He's just got to make sure that he fixes the holes in his game.
Starting point is 00:36:25 He's at the right camp. Whatever he's got. And he likes the mount. He's at the right camp, a.k.a. with the wrestlers. These are hard fucking punches, man. Look at this. Cleaning room for your body. Just lifting a leg up. I think only one time ever, maybe twice,
Starting point is 00:36:40 has someone gotten knocked out while they were mounting somebody. From the bottom. Really? You're saying the guy on mount got knocked out while they were mounting somebody from the bottom? Really? You're saying the guy on mount got knocked out? From the bottom? Yeah. Somebody punches up? Yeah, it's happened at least once, maybe twice.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That's embarrassing. Getting knocked out while you're being mounted. I mean, not while you're mounted. Sorry, excuse me. I think Dwayne Ludwig, and when, wasn't that something that, who? It happened in Japan. Yeah. Man, I'm trying to remember this.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Dwayne Ludwig's fight? Yeah. Why do I feel like Dwayne Ludwig did it to, oh, Eve Edwards. Dwayne Ludwig did it to Eve Edwards. He hurt him, like, really bad. And Eve, like, covered it up. And Eve was on top? Yeah, Eve was on top. And Dwayne punched him from the bottom and hurt him really bad and eve like covered it up and he was on top yeah eve was on top and duane
Starting point is 00:37:25 punched him from the bottom and hurt him really bad he talked about it on the podcast now i remember dude how long has this fight taken to get to this point what's going on here i feel like well they're uh they're in china is that where they're at maybe they're just giving us chance to settle in isn't it weird though, though? China's communist, right? The communists in... That's not really... They're not really... They're a capitalist country.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Okay. They're a command economy, though, like, so where a lot of decisions are made by the Politburo, by the actual government, and then from there... Their flag looks like the Soviet Union flag.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah. Well, it's still... Red China, right? It's kind of communist. There was a communist revolution in China. Not anymore Union flag. Yeah. Well, it's still... Red China, right? Yeah. It's kind of communist. There was a communist revolution in China. Not anymore, though. It's weird because it's not a democracy.
Starting point is 00:38:12 No. You know, when I went to Beijing for Abu Dhabi, and in the hotels, boom, they have the TV on with the propaganda in your face. Oh, really? How long ago? You're told. Just talking shit on the United States. Really? Yeah. It's a documentary that's on you know it's the default setting on your tvs and in
Starting point is 00:38:31 beijing when when you get there you sit down to watch tv and a documentary on how bad the united states is is playing this is this is why we're doing what we're doing look at the united states the united states is uh you know, they're just going down the list of all the things that the United States does that is detrimental to society. Did you have to do your fingerprints on the machine? You get all your fingerprints recorded and then you're given,
Starting point is 00:38:58 at least when I was shooting a movie, you were given a... You were just there, right? Yeah, you were given a memo to say, if you, and no political dissent like you will not voice your political point of view if it's contrary to the government's
Starting point is 00:39:09 you know, lie. I don't know why you would. And if you do that you'll be asked to leave or you could be Didn't some American kid like try and steal something like sunglasses or some shit?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Oh yeah, that was Ball's son. Ball's son, yeah. The UCLA basketball team stole like some sunglasses and fucking Trump had to help get them out. They don't fuck around in China. They're about to be super fucked.
Starting point is 00:39:28 But Deng Xiaoping said famously, to be rich is glorious, which was so contrary to the communist manifesto. Well, it's cool as fuck that there's not only the UFC in there, so it can't be that communist. It's a huge market. Everybody wants the Chinese market. Well, that's the next big push for the UFC, right? I mean, internationally, they're growing like a motherfucker. You're not getting Google. You know, when we tried, you had to keep trying to find servers that would provide Google
Starting point is 00:39:52 and the internet in China. You can't get it. Because they limit you to the access of everything, right? Yes, and then they find you and they shut that down. Then you got to find another one. So anybody who worked on the set. Be cool, man. Anybody who worked on the set couldn't get, you're given a phone there.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So when I was an actor, I was given a phone with wechat by it's a phone issued to me that i can use there i can't use technically my phone and link into the worldwide web that's like a cricket too many firewalls yeah they you and then by the way if you want to use your phone you download something called wechat which is an app which you know is controlled by somebody so it's so there's a lot of group think there's zero there's zero dissent and if you say something derogatory about the government you disappear like and something like wechat they probably monitor it jesus man fuck they monitor of course they monitor it of course they do you didn't it's an amazing example of how you can control a lot of people but you know in the north korea
Starting point is 00:40:50 you don't even there is no internet correct no they get no internet korea no tv channels worst place no hbo i talked to a friend of mine who works for the government and his wife works for the government too and they had to go to russia for something and he said they were you were told just absolutely think you're being followed everywhere you go. Assume they're listening to every word you say. Assume that your hotel room's bugged. And then where you go, you're being followed. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It's kind of like the States. More evidence WeChat is recording private messages for Beijing to spy on users. Did you even use the phone, really, B? Not really. You text me right now and tell me how bad it sucks. Hasn't that been happening already for a while? Don't we already know that? That they're like...
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah. Everything that's online is... When it's confirmed like that, it just freaks people out as well as it should. But, you know, we forgot how... This is why freedom of expression and freedom of speech in this country is so important. Because while this is happening here in the United States and freedom of speech is, you know, something that it gets up for debate sometimes. It's like who gets to decide who gets to say this and gets to say that. What should we stop? The problem with any kind of censorship is right while we're here being able to talk shit on a podcast,
Starting point is 00:42:08 there are big, giant spots in the world filled with billions of people that can't do this. If they did this, they would get arrested. Like what country? They would get locked up. That's exactly right. What country? China. This is deja vu.
Starting point is 00:42:19 China. You can't do podcasts in China? If we didn't podcast the way we do podcasts, no fucking chance, man. The Arab world. I mean, one of the things that came out in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, what's come out is that these governments are saying, the royal family and the people that are in power, they go, well, there's political dissent. So you've got journalists or people who form groups that for, say, let's say democracy
Starting point is 00:42:42 or elections. And guess what? They hire American mercenaries. There's just a whole article on it blackwater dudes guys like that they hire american mercenaries to take care of their terrorist problem and their terrorist problem is that they get as long as the american company gets issued weaponry and orders from the standing army then they can do whatever they want jesus christ and so this all came what was the article i just read it was fascinating it was in new york times but it was just exposed where there are these ex badass special forces guys making a fortune essentially acting as
Starting point is 00:43:15 mercenaries in countries like the united arab emirates etc to get rid of their terrorist problem now that's the royal family saying it's a terrorist problem when it could very well be just a political group but they're getting killed that's terrible so you know but the bigger issue in this country is apparently from what i'm seeing in my own experience is that when you put a certain ad on facebook and facebook decides that that ad might be offensive to someone my account just got flagged, yeah. Okay, and so even if you say, get in the best shape of your life or whatever it might be,
Starting point is 00:43:50 that might make other people feel uncomfortable. For whatever reason, it's either a bot, an algorithm, or somebody is flagging that ad or shutting down your account. And I know a number of people that that's happened to. So what the fuck is going on there? But you know also, too, is if let's say you do an ad or you do a post on Instagram let's say you have
Starting point is 00:44:10 two million followers on how many you have let's say you have 60 million and you do a post you know they limit how many people it reaches now you have to pay extra to make sure it reaches they got you this is Facebook it was I don't mind that because that's Instagram does that too that's why it says promote your post like why I have fucking 60 that's why does that too. That's why it says promote your post. Like, wow, I have fucking $60 million. That's why? Yeah. So that's how they're going to make money. That seems like a business model. But hold on.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Is it fucked up? Here. Yeah, it's kind of smart. Yeah. It's business. It's business. Smart doesn't mean it's not fucked up. One of those fitness people that grow their Instagram by just putting very –
Starting point is 00:44:42 There's dudes too. There's guys that I follow that are just like super jacked And they're doing like one arm chin ups and shit You follow? Flips, yeah, follow our fitness dudes Settle down man, I'm comfortable They're always in a gym where they can work out shirtless Everyone's shirtless
Starting point is 00:44:58 But they're doing impressive shit There's like a bunch of them that I follow Okay, what were you saying? You got my point, you made me nervous If they can promote their posts man they'll reach all these extra people their their thing will grow their business will grow i'm a fan of that i'm a fan of that what i'm not a fan of what i have a question about is is there some buddy in charge of what's what's permissible and what's not according to a certain code of conduct,
Starting point is 00:45:25 and do they have a political agenda? So in other words, if I put out something that has profanity, or maybe a stand-up clip where I want to get people in, it's a clip that is offensive to said person whose responsibility it is. Yeah. They can go, no. And who's stopping them from doing that? Who is stopping them?
Starting point is 00:45:40 But see, with the dudes with their shirts off, flex and shit, when they're trying to get clients, that's fine. And they can promote, reach other people outside their followers is what it should be. But if you have 100,000 followers, it should reach all 100,000 that you built. Yeah, I see what you're saying. That's what's crazy to me. Yeah, they're going to lose everybody. There's going to be a new Instagram if they start doing that shit and it gets out of hand.
Starting point is 00:46:00 People just leave. Well, you know what shadow banning is, right? No. There's a concept of shadow banning and i don't know if this is jamie would be able to speak to this better than me has that ever been proved that they actually do shadow ban people what's that or is it it's they the term has been used is that if you say we're on twitter and maybe you were conservative and you said a lot of rude things about liberals that maybe they would decide
Starting point is 00:46:28 that although it doesn't violate the terms of service, what you do is it makes them uncomfortable. They make a moral judgment and they decide to limit your engagement with other people. That's what I'm talking about. This is somehow possible. But if there's a hater, is that like a hater? In what you're saying
Starting point is 00:46:44 with the paying of posts too, it happens similarly there too. If you were an account that never paid, and once you pay, once you give them five bucks, you're like flagged now as an account that will pay and it changes your engagement. We're talking about Twitter. Twitter you don't pay.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Across the board. Yeah, you can pay on Twitter too. How do you pay on Twitter? Do you pay on Twitter? You don't have to, but there are brands that pay. There's an option that you can pay? Yeah, promoted tweets. Promoted?
Starting point is 00:47:08 What? Really? Promoted tweets. The top trending topic for the last year or two is a paid, it says paid or promoted. Really? Yeah. You just have to- All of them are going to it because they get money now.
Starting point is 00:47:18 That's how they're- Well, who's been banned from Twitter? A lot of people, man. Really? Your boy. A lot of people. Alex Jones. Alex Jones is the most famous, probably. Who gets banned? Owen Benjamin's been banned from Twitter? A lot of people, man. Really? Your boy. Alex Jones. Alex Jones is the most famous, probably.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Who gets banned? Owen Benjamin's been banned from Twitter. He has? Who gets banned more, conservatives or liberals? Conservatives. But liberals get banned, too. There's liberals that have put out death threats. They've been banned.
Starting point is 00:47:36 But in general, though. In general. Yeah, they should be. Is it lopsided? I don't know. That's a good question. We should find out. What is the criteria for being banned? That's a good question. We should find out. What is the criteria for being banned?
Starting point is 00:47:47 That's a good question, too. Is it to incite violence or is it? They violate their terms of service. And definitely if you incite violence, that's definitely a no-no. Racial slurs are a no-no. Racist. I don't think it is. You can call someone a fuckhead, but you can't call them like a a guinea fuckhead yeah yeah there's like there's certain things you can say and
Starting point is 00:48:10 certain things you can't say but it's a lot of it's subjective yeah but then some of it's pretty black and white like if you're like man i want to go if someone should blow up that fucking school yeah of course of course or the racist stuff yeah yes all of that i think you got to regulate the hate too if it's just bullying and shit like that. Yeah. I mean, just ban them. Well, it's like, here's the question. And this is, who gets to decide what's hateful and what's not?
Starting point is 00:48:34 And the problem is they keep pushing it further and further and further. And then even just insults are hateful. Even like, this guy is a dumbass. That's hateful. Saying someone's a dumbass is hateful. I mean, there's only so far you can keep going down that road. Right. You want to make sure that you have free expression.
Starting point is 00:48:55 You don't get free expression if you ban people from saying things that just don't seem that bad to me. What about Alex Jones? You think his banning was... I'd like to see what he said. The Sandy Hook stuff is tough, man. But here's the thing. He's getting sued for that anyway. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah, he was already getting sued for that. Like, what did he say that got him... I think something happened that he did had nothing to do with even what he said. He confronted them at some event, right? And he was yelling in the back and disrupting... Yeah, the final event happened after he confronted people in Congress.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Well, he's got, Alex Jones has a regular on, a former CIA officer, Dr. Steve Pchenik. He has him on like once every six months. That's where he got the Sandy Hook information was from him. That dude is on video.
Starting point is 00:49:42 How the fuck does a CIA guy know about Sandy Hook? The fuck would he know that's the dumbest fucking thing that alex jones has ever done it's also immoral and that's what that guy was saying i don't know what dr steve pachinik was saying fuck that guy fuck steve whatever if he said it didn't fuck him too yeah you have to always wonder and you would you i mean i'm not making any accusations but you'd have to always wonder when you hear a story like that, why would someone say something so ridiculous,
Starting point is 00:50:13 and why would someone try to convince someone like Alex Jones of something so ridiculous? And I think there'd be two reasons. One, to discredit Jones. If you could talk him into repeating what you said, if you think he's willing to do that, you can easily discredit him, and it would be a really good way to do it like the best way to do it that's what i'm saying whether he's right or wrong but whether he's right or wrong dr steve pachenik said it several times on a show so but he's not alex for but alex to believe him no it's not that crazy he's hearing it from a guy who was in the cia it started like this it's not that crazy for him to believe in a guy from you know he may or may not be right but it started with alex actually saying uh he said unfortunately he goes something to the effect of i saw it it was very sad and then
Starting point is 00:50:56 but unfortunately i've seen a lot of soap operas i've seen a lot of and and and i know an actor when i see one and that's where it started with him. Did he really say it that way? Yes. And he's being sued by a law firm in Connecticut. Maybe he can get work in Hollywood. He's in trouble. It seems like he'd be a good acting coach.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah. But remember. If he really knows an actor, he sees it. Wasn't he in court and they said, what the fuck, basically, what the fuck are you doing? He goes, listen, I say a lot of things just for entertainment. Of course. Like it's just for the bullshit. But during his trial with his wife, he's like, I don't follow it too much.
Starting point is 00:51:24 But he did admit, he's like, I don't believe it. A lot of it I just say. He's got a business. Yeah. Well, the thing about a lot of nutrition people, a lot of these people, is you make money. You make money in this business, whatever it is, whether it's being a political pundit, whether it's being an exercise guy, you make money having answers. If you're somebody who's more scientific and says, I don't know, it depends, maybe,
Starting point is 00:51:49 you're not going to make money. When you say bone broth cures cancer, you're going to sell books. When you say my plant-based diet is proven to do blah, blah, blah, whatever, you're going to make money. If you say, I'll help you lose weight and keep it off in four months. Take my money. You're not going to say, hey, I'm a nutritionist guy. It's going to take you two years. We're going to try to change life. You're going to have
Starting point is 00:52:11 bounce backs. You're going to have plateaus. Same being realistic? Yeah, nobody's going to buy that shit. This Yadong guy has good movement, man. So, but with Alex Jones, is he banned for life or does he not have a business? He still has his website.
Starting point is 00:52:26 He's got a big lawsuit he's got to worry about. They got rid of his show? What happened to all the followers and shit? No, the only thing that happened is they pulled him off of YouTube and they pulled him off of Twitter and they pulled him off of Facebook too. And iTunes. And he's got a major lawsuit with a law firm that doesn't
Starting point is 00:52:43 compromise. Well, there's two guys that are being sued over that. Alex Jones and a guy named Wolfgang Helbig. He's also being sued. That guy, his job was to prepare schools for school shootings. So he came out and he started saying that, too. So he's breaking apart Sandy Hook. Wait, he started saying that too so he's he's breaking apart sandy wait he started saying that he's getting sued yeah he's getting he's getting sued along with alex
Starting point is 00:53:10 jones oh my god well um but they didn't show up for when he went to court they never showed up so they dropped the case what about one thing about the law law it's kind of weird no they haven't dropped the case against alex jones what are showing them. Why would Sandy Hook be fake? Let's not talk about this stuff. Oh, I don't know, man. I find it fascinating. Well, you know. Why in the world would it be fake, though, B? I know you get right up with it.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Like, what's the conspiracy theory? I have zero, zero thoughts that it's fake. But I do have thoughts on why someone would try to get other people to say it's fake. And if there's anything that's ever going to convince you that conspiracy theories are stupid it's making up a fake conspiracy an easily provable fake conspiracy about a real tragedy that's a nice simple psychological way to discredit people if i thought you were a dumbass but you had a big voice i might talk you into saying some shit about something
Starting point is 00:54:06 that's not real and have you convinced it's real so you spout it out and you look like a moron. And that discredits everything else you say. And you have to be really careful with a lot of these stories. There's a lot of these conspiracy theories that literally start out a joke. They start out in 4chan and a lot of these chat rooms
Starting point is 00:54:21 as trolls and then before you know it, it becomes a real thing. It's said over and over again and then morons get a lot of these chat rooms as trolls and then before you know it, it becomes a real thing. It's said over and over again and then morons get a hold of it and start trying to prove it's true. He's a smart dude. I don't agree. What do you mean smart? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:36 To do what he's doing, listen, I don't agree with a lot of stuff. He's a smart guy. Have you met him? You would not say he's a dumb person. I don't know. He's pretty articulate. He's not know. I don't listen to him, so I can't speak to him. He's pretty articulate. He's not stupid.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I'm very, very sad that he said that Sandy Hook isn't real. Me too. Can't fuck with him. But I always enjoy being around that guy. You would say he's an articulate, smart guy, right? He's a fun guy, too. Yeah. So I'm just saying, for him to...
Starting point is 00:55:00 It's not like you can just honeydick him, like, dude, Sandy Hook. It would have to be something. He loves conspiracies, man. He really does. And this is the problem with someone who hunts out conspiracies. You're going to love them. You're going to look for them. It's like numerology.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Numerology and the Bible. You can find any pattern. This is the problem is when you have a vested interest in them being real. When it's your business. Because there are a lot of them that are real. So the problem is, if you have a vested interest in them being real, and you exclude information that would point to them not being
Starting point is 00:55:33 real, and you use confirmation bias, and you fuck up, and then you try to convince other people that you're correct. This is something that people will fall into when it comes to conspiracy theories. Eddie, I'd love to hear you on it. You're super quiet about all this. But if you're a conspiracy theory, which ones have been proven correct? Not that many, right?
Starting point is 00:55:51 There's plenty. Sure. But I'm saying like absolutely. There's big ones like Enron. There's big ones. There's big ones. There's many documentaries and books have been written on the Enron conspiracy. These guys got together and they figured out how to make a kajillion dollars and fuck
Starting point is 00:56:06 people over. It was breaking the law. They knew it was breaking the law. They conspired to do it. There's wise people to think the 2008 housing crisis that that was all on purpose. These guys built this bubble up
Starting point is 00:56:22 and sank it. Is any of that proven though? It's not proven. The housing bubble was, there have been great books written on the housing bubble michael lewis's book the big short's a good book on it good couple other books yeah but but you know there's been a lot of research on that too many bankers is there any proven ones you're so quiet during all this it all it all depends brennan just wants to get no no no i know it all depends on how much circumstantial evidence makes you throw up some red flags. Some people, they just don't see the red flags. And some people, their red flags go up right away.
Starting point is 00:56:54 So it all depends. When you say, is there any proof? Well, you don't need... I mean, at a certain point, when you have circumstantial evidence, at a certain point... It adds up. You know, if one piece of... JFK is pretty suspect. JFK is suspect as fuck.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Super suspect. Look, JFK is a perfect example, right? There's no actual proof of the conspiracy that there was multiple you know multiple shooters or or the cia and the mob there's no actual proof but there's a lot of circumstantial evidence so it all depends on it all depends on how much circumstantial evidence do you need for any particular conspiracy theory where you go oh shit there's enough circumstantial evidence like if there was a murder right and you were being accused and only one person said you know i saw brendan like four blocks away from the restaurant where his friend was killed if just that one person saw you that's one piece of circumstantial evidence that's not
Starting point is 00:57:53 enough to convict you but if a hundred people said they saw you two blocks away in the parking lot none of it alone none of it standing alone will put you in jail but at a certain point enough circumstantial evidence will put dudes in jail but at a certain point enough circumstantial evidence will put dudes in jail. Or if enough people tell the same story about you like with Cosby it was the same story over and over it's like not all these women can't be they're all telling the exact same story about the same
Starting point is 00:58:16 MOU. Michael Jackson too. Well not only that Cosby had gone to court and had a lawsuit sealed and paid a woman off it had already been in Susan's part. Yeah he did a deposition. So this was a part of the whole thing was was that he had to come out and, you know, they had to defend that in his most recent trial. Bill Clinton, too.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I just got done watching those Monica Lewinsky tapes. Bill Clinton was a freak. Oh, yeah. Dude. You know, the other problem with, like, being a... But, like, someone like Alex Jones, who makes a lot of money off his conspiracies and things, is that once he says something... I know a pretty good friend of his, Alex. The problem is once you say something and you have that big of a following, right?
Starting point is 00:58:54 So let's just say you float out a conspiracy. But then you look at evidence and you start to realize, maybe I overstepped my bounds. We all say things we wish we hadn't or we all say things. But now you've got a whole movement behind what you said. Now to try to pull back would turn that 25% of whoever it is against you, and that can be a liability too. So one of the things about being a public figure is you can say something, and if you're selling product and selling your show on that,
Starting point is 00:59:17 you better be all in, you better stay all in. So you become a prisoner to your own kind of first impulse or your own first sort of like— No matter how outlandish it is. Especially if he's also an entertainer. It's also this rush to say you know something when you don't know it. There's a rush to say. There's a rush to say we absolutely know this happened.
Starting point is 00:59:37 We absolutely know that happened. Because it's good entertainment. But he's getting it from somewhere, right? It's good entertainment. There's something to it. Alex is getting it from somewhere. He has his sources for sure. He's probably got multiple sources.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Information on these tragic events or something like that. Or you don't think so, B? I'm just looking at you, Brendan. Listen, I think he has some people to tell him. Fucking troublemaker. No, I'm not. Don't take the bait.
Starting point is 00:59:57 You know what, Eddie? He's floating a fucking huge worm out there for you. Hey, listen. Eddie, stay away from the worm. I strategically come on this show and try not to talk about conspiracy theories, but I always get sucked back into them.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I always get sucked back into them. He's floating that worm. Look, they're legit questions. I don't know shit about conspiracies. You're asking super crazy legit questions. You're asking questions that someone with one eye open has. Don't take the fucking word, Eddie.
Starting point is 01:00:30 You're kind of like, hey, I'm not bringing up conspiracy theories. I'm not bringing up conspiracy theories. I hear you, bro. Let's talk about titties. Say no more, man. You know what? I was biting my tongue just like... But I'm not asking you to go down the crazy, you know, and tell us the conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I'm just saying, how do you get there? You know what I'm saying? You can't help yourself. But he has his black belt in conspiracy theories. Brian, you know, he just never... Brian didn't say that there are no black belts in conspiracy theories. Alex Jones says, hold my beer. That was quick.
Starting point is 01:01:08 All right, now that the cuck's gone, where were we? What is this? Rafael dos Anjos, Kamaru Usman. Ooh, I love this. Ooh, that's a good fight. I love this.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Usman's been gone for a hot second, right? It was his last one, Damian Maia? I believe so. I believe so. And that was a bad one, man. I did not like the way they pulled him off of Maya's back.
Starting point is 01:01:26 That made me angry. Yeah, Maya had that. He was standing up, had one lap wrapped around. The referee separated them. And I was like, what are you doing? Do you know how hard it is for him to get to that position? Oh, and he's the best grappler on the fucking planet. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:01:40 He has his back. He's in a really good spot. They're both pretty dry. Trying to drain his energy. Yeah. Some bullshit. Bullshit. Poor Damien Maia.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Well, it's fucked up, man. It's like that is fighting. Okay? He's fighting right now. Just because it's not exciting enough. Give me blood. Give me blood. Show me blood.
Starting point is 01:01:58 No, they're fighting. You fuck. This is what they're doing. I mean, people that freak out about it. Like, you gotta... Just because it's so exciting when it's good, they want it to be exciting all the time. But it can't be.
Starting point is 01:02:10 There's going to be fights where, to fight correctly, they have to fight in a way that's not as entertaining. It's not as entertaining, but it's the right way to fight. But you can't, like, not fight the right way. You can't not fight the right way. Exactly. You can't not fight the right way just because it's more interesting for people that don't understand what's happening. No, you become a 500 fighter. You win one, lose one, win one. You take punishment.
Starting point is 01:02:34 You should take. It's just not the way to fight. You never get the belt ever. Ever. Or if you do, you don't keep it. It's very rare. Usman's a beast, man. He's a tough, tough man.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Super strong guy. Phenomenal wrestling, too. Is know fighting today no i wish no he's fighting dos anjos though that's a great fight it's heavy man that's a heavy fight 70 just became a fucking beef yeah but he didn't look that good against um uh our boy colby covington no col, Colby put on that pressure, that crazy pace. Colby beat his ass. But now they announced Colby Woodley. Of course. They have to have that.
Starting point is 01:03:12 That's the fight. I know Woodley doesn't want to have it because he's probably angry at the dude. Dude, I wish they would have done Colby Ben Askren. You're going to see angry Tyron Woodley versus Colby Covington. That's going to be very interesting. Angry, I want to fuck you up, Tyron Woodley. Woodley Covington. That's going to be very interesting. Angry, I want to fuck you up, Tyron Woodley.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Woodley's a nightmare. Nightmare. Dude, think about the fucking guys he's fought recently, whether it's Darren Till or Thompson. Both guys known to be really high-level strikers. He dropped both those guys. They didn't hit him. Damian Maia, perfect game plan.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Thompson tagged him a few times. He hit him with some decent shots, but not the way didn't hit him. Damian Maia, perfect game plan. Thompson tagged him a few times. He hit him with some decent shots, but not the way Tyron hit him. Tyron fucked him up in both fights. Do you think about it? He dropped Thompson in both fights, and then Darren Tilley knocked out. He dropped him, and then he choked him out. Fucking rocked him, yeah. Yeah, he dropped him, and then he
Starting point is 01:03:59 darsed him, remember? Yes. Oh, that's right. And he didn't even know what was coming. It was so weird. He probably had been rattled by all those punches and elbows and shit on the ground, too. And he got dropped by a super clean punch. Beautiful counter right. What is this? Do you know there's a fight for like nine weeks in a row?
Starting point is 01:04:18 Which I'm not mad at at all. Look at this weird. TBD, TBD. Oh, no, because the heavyweights. The tough heavyweight final. Oh. I've been watching tough heavyweights. It's actually not bad. And a tough woman's featherweight final.
Starting point is 01:04:30 This is the last tough? Is tough over? No. No, they're going to fucking strike it back up. Wait a minute. For a second there, they were thinking it was the last season, right? Well, when you say really well, Dana said it makes money. Dana says it does really well.
Starting point is 01:04:43 No one's watching it. I don't know if that's true. How dare you, John? Well, when you say really well, Dana said it makes money. Dana says it does really well. No one's watching it. I don't know if that's true. How dare you, John? Because of those, it's hard to tell when someone just watches something in the moment, right? Like when they have ratings. Because almost everybody DVR shit now. Especially when you talk about cable shows. This is a fact.
Starting point is 01:04:58 When they're talking about the numbers that they get, that shit is voodoo. All right? If you get a number, like say if you put up a YouTube video and it gets a million hits, that's a million hits. We know for a fact it's a million. That's a fact. That's a million hits. We don't know how many people it is because some people will watch it five or six times.
Starting point is 01:05:14 But that's still a million. Shout out to those people. When they're doing like Nielsen ratings, shit, that's voodoo. Dude, low numbers, low numbers. They don't. It's low. Yeah, but they don't know. They don't know what it means.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Game of Thrones, we know that shit. Now he has DVRs. Now what they do is, because I know this from my show, now what they do is they will do Nielsen, but then they look at, like, three days. Do you watch it in three days? Do you watch it in seven days? You know, they have all these different metrics.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And is the metric still coming from them having to fill out forms, or is it something more? No, it's more technologically based now. But it's still not, you know, you're still dealing with a number. You know what's weird? Netflix doesn't tell you shit. I find that so strange. They don't tell you nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:56 They don't want to give you the power. How fucked up is that? Because if, let's say, 30 million people watch your special, they're like, hey, man, we're just going to run it back the same thing as last year. And you're like, what? Because you could go and renegotiate and but they're very generous yeah maybe they're very generous i'm telling you they're very generous no i know they paid you well but i pay everybody well when did they start allowing nudity on youtube is that new or is it real real what's important on youtube what are you what are you watching? Are you talking about Red 2? You're talking about Red 2.
Starting point is 01:06:25 No, no, no. I'm talking about YouTube. Motherfuckers watching you porn. Thank you for watching YouTube. Type in hot naked chicks. Really? You're about to get a virus. On YouTube?
Starting point is 01:06:36 On YouTube. Fuck off my account. On YouTube? Seriously? No way, dude. I'm telling you, man. You can watch naked chicks on YouTube? Hey, it's legal now.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Come on. I don't think so, Eddie. Where did you see this? The other day. I'm on YouTube. I'm like, hot naked chicks. I wanted to see if people... How much can you see?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Are you saying... I just tested it out. I'm like, I wonder if porn is making it onto YouTube. And I went, hot naked chicks. And there are videos of naked girls. I'm doing it right now. Seriously. Isn't that weird that we'll make a distinction between topless or bottomless?
Starting point is 01:07:11 Topless, yeah, it's kind of racy. But bottomless, oh God. You're showing pussy. What are you doing? Is everybody here going to the Tyson Fury fight? I gotta work. Is that the one in December 1st? Yeah, Staples Center. Next Saturday. Tyson Fury fucking? I gotta work. I'm not. Is that the one in December 1st? Yeah, Staples Center.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Isn't that in LA? Tyson Fury fucking Wilder. I'm gonna watch that from the comfort of my own home, sir. That's the way to go in life. Feed up. Really? Feed up. Perhaps cocktail.
Starting point is 01:07:35 This is how I'm gonna watch it. And then if I have to poop, I'm gonna pause it. What? Yeah, and I'm not gonna look at my phone. Shoot your pants. So I'm not gonna have any idea what happened. Let's do it at Joe's house. Dude, I'm working. I'm in New York. Are you going? So I'm not going to have any idea what happened. Let's do it at Joe's house. Dude, I'm working.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I'm in New York. Are you going? You can come over to my house, Brian. Can you get me tickets? I can get you tickets, I'm sure. All right. Do you really want to go there in person? Brian needs tickets.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I need two tickets. You really want to go there in person? Maybe. I don't know. It seems like a lot of people. I'd rather watch it on a huge TV. Yes. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:08:02 That's all I like to do. You know what YouTube is doing? That's awesome. Now, anytime you punch in, like, um, like if you punch in moon hoax, like if you want to watch a conspiracy theory video on the moon hoax,
Starting point is 01:08:13 they're going to put a link right on, right under it. Boom. That takes you to the Wikipedia of, uh, of the Apollo landings. Like all the, Oh,
Starting point is 01:08:21 that's cool. Yeah. Just the, they're basically debunking the conspiracy theory video right there for you. I'm watching Hot Naked Chicks on YouTube. Let's see if it happens. What do you got? Okay, just a photo shoot.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Fast forward a little bit. Yeah, dude. Uh-oh. Look at that. Did you see that? What's that? Damn it. Did you see that?
Starting point is 01:08:44 Jacking off to YouTube. Right? Look at that. What the hell? I that Damn it Did you see that Jacking off to YouTube Right look at that What the hell Whoa She's got a bra now But wait I saw tits She has some big ass titties
Starting point is 01:08:51 Hold on Come on bro Look at that Damn look at those houses What the hell If men can take their shirts off Why can't women I guess they can dude
Starting point is 01:09:00 You won't see You won't see genitalia though No you will In San Francisco You will Eddie says just wait a time genitalia though No you will In San Francisco You will Eddie says just wait Oh you mean in time Do you know what the rule is
Starting point is 01:09:08 In San Francisco You can walk around What Look at that You guys didn't know this No bro Wait a minute You can see
Starting point is 01:09:15 Look at that Naked vaginas Yeah look I get your bush out of my face You know in San Francisco You can walk around naked But you know what the rule is If you're a man
Starting point is 01:09:23 Can't touch people Can't get hard What's the what Yeah can't get hard Dude what if the what? Yeah, can't get hard. Dude, what if the breeze kicks in? Hey, bro. Tough shit. That's intense or something.
Starting point is 01:09:30 You can be naked, just don't have a hard on. Dude, what is this? This is crazy. This is weird. Eddie, how'd you find out about this? Dude, I just thought, I just punched in the other day. Just going, hmm, let me see what happens. Really?
Starting point is 01:09:40 I was just checking. Why would you do that? I was just checking it. Because he's, you know. Now I'm doing it. He's a scientist, bro. Wow. Dude. I was just checking it Now I'm doing it He's a scientist bro Wow
Starting point is 01:09:47 This is doing research bro Now what am I doing? That's crazy Isn't that crazy? How about them putting the debunker videos On conspiracy Like if you put a punch in moon hoax Right now
Starting point is 01:10:02 Right under the video But if I punch in moon hoax right now. It'll have a link at the bottom of it. Right under the video. Wow. Right under the video. But if I type in moon landing, does it send me some hoax too? No, no, it doesn't. It doesn't do that. No, no, no, no. That would be even.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Yeah. Look at Alistair Overeem. Uh-oh. You know, he changed camps. He's at elevation in Denver, Colorado. Christian Allen, Cody Donovan. He looks good. Like the way he looks physically there, he looksovan. He looks good. Like the way he looks
Starting point is 01:10:25 physically there, he looks good. He does look good. A lot of heavy wrestling there. It's so funny. Even though he looks great, like you look at him right now, you go, damn, he looks great.
Starting point is 01:10:35 The problem with him is you always judge him against what he looked like when he came in and he fought Brock. Oh, dude. When he was Uber Eam, when he was the K-1
Starting point is 01:10:42 Grand Prix champion. Uber Eam, the best. Dude, when he was Uber Eam, he was a special thing. Like, he was a special thing. No one wanted to fight him. No. Kane beat that guy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Kane beat the Uber Eam. Am I going crazy right now? Kane? Kane beat him. Did Uber Eam ever fight Bata Hari? Am I going fucking nuts? Or am I thinking of Brock Lesnar? You're thinking of Brock Lesnar.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Yeah. Brock Lesnar beat the shit out of him. Kane didn't fight Uber Eam ever. Badr Hari? Am I going fucking nuts? Or am I thinking of Brock Lesnar? You're thinking of Brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar beat the shit out of him. Kane didn't fight Uber Eats ever. No, he didn't. He beat Brock. Yeah. I'm thinking of Brock. Dude, he smashed Brock. Did he ever fight Badr Hari?
Starting point is 01:11:15 Yes. He did? He knocked Badr Hari out with a left hook, and Badr Hari stopped him in the rematch. Badr Hari, yes. Badr Hari stopped him. Yeah, Badr Hari stopped him in the rematch in the first fight with Badr Hari. I think the story was That Bahdari was not Training very much
Starting point is 01:11:28 Has he retired? Bahdari? No No he just fought recently He was in jail He fought Regal Berhulvin And broke his arm He's not trying to do MMA though right?
Starting point is 01:11:36 Did he go to jail? He fought one MMA fight I believe Bahdari did He needs some anger management Yeah Why'd he go to jail? He's gone to jail a couple times For fucking
Starting point is 01:11:43 Beating the shit out of people Putting them hands on motherfuckers Damn Bahdari's so scary He's in your hands, right? Yeah. Why'd he go to jail? He's gone to jail a couple times. For fucking beating the shit out of people? Putting them hands on motherfuckers. Damn. Butterhart, he's so scary. He's a mean dude. He's a knockout artist, too. Oh, dude, yeah, you don't want to fuck with that guy. He's a knockout.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Horrible temper. Yeah. Horrible temper. Yeah. Really? But it pays off in fighting. He's got some amazing fights on his highlight reel. Dude, how about your first fight in the UFC, this Russian dude?
Starting point is 01:12:04 Obviously, he's a champ in this Russian organization. And they're like, hey, you got to call the UFC. Cool, who am I fighting? Alistair Overeem. Like, God damn. Can I ask you a question? Can I get a warm-up? How many times has he been knocked out?
Starting point is 01:12:15 150. For real? Like, this is getting really bad. Every time I see him. It isn't, it isn't. Because he wins, and he's at heavyweight. That guy used to fight. But we just accept the fact.
Starting point is 01:12:26 That's that Polish guy, right? Is that Krzysztof Szczynski? No, it's John Sharp. Oh, okay, sorry. He looks like him, though. That's Jeff Munson. Szczynski, he had fucking tattoos everywhere, still does. That guy's white as shit.
Starting point is 01:12:37 He's a white guy. He's Russian, bro. Man, he's white. White that blends with snow. So when you're looking at him, even though he does look great, you compare his looking great to what he looked like when he was Ubering. Dude, he looks fucking good White that blends with snow. So when you're looking at Overeem, even though he does look great, you compare his looking great to what he looked like when he was Ubering. Dude, he looks fucking good, though.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Oh, yeah. He looks great. But not a version of Ubering yet. Yeah. But if he like- No, he used to be a fucking 911 GTS 3RS, and now he's just a regular 911. Yeah. That's a good way of putting it.
Starting point is 01:13:00 That's a good way of putting it. He's still cool, but- Yeah. Now he's like a Carrera. Yeah. Targa. How old is he now he's getting up there he's 38 yeah he's getting up there god he's and he's been fighting forever yeah well
Starting point is 01:13:13 skilled heavyweight striking oh super skilled still fuck yeah he's highly skilled dude highly skilled k1 champ that's what um cowboy serrani said that Cerrone said. Sparring with him is such a joy because he's so technical. Yeah, you can tell. He's so good. Oh, shit. Watch out for that. I mean, he's won more than he's shared. He's lost a bunch, too.
Starting point is 01:13:33 But he's one of the best strikers to ever fight in MMA. Ever, man. I'm going with Pavlovich on this fight. I'm taking my over. Damn, he's already hurt. Yeah, he's going to. I'm impressed with this striker. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:13:44 You think he's hurt? Did that kind of ring his bell? No. No, I mean, he's already hurt. Yeah, he's going to... I'm impressed with this strike. What do you think? You think he's hurt? Did that ring his bell? No. No, I mean, he got hit, but when he's hurt, you know it. It doesn't take much with Govering because he's been hit so many... Yeah. He's been put out so many times. He's fighting Sparta now.
Starting point is 01:13:55 He's still taking it pretty good, though. He's such a technician, man. Oh, he took an overcut. He got clipped there. An uppercut. He just doesn't take shots as well as he did when he was Ubering, too, because of the size of his neck. His neck and his traps.
Starting point is 01:14:06 He used to have these built-in shock absorbers all around his head. Yeah, isn't glass jaw syndrome real, though, where your body shuts down? It's your brain. It's from so much trauma. So as soon as he sees trauma, it shuts off. No, we're not doing this anymore. It's really not your thing. It's the nasty need of the body.
Starting point is 01:14:23 It's your brain, not your chin. Alistair's got some fucking knees, man. Damn. Ouch. Definitely the best knees in the heavyweight division. The best knees. For sure. He shattered a dude's skull.
Starting point is 01:14:32 For sure. You hear about that guy that got knocked out? I don't know how he got knocked out, but it was on the news that he had a severe concussion. Maybe he was in a coma. And he wakes up, and he's super smart. He knows all this. He's a genius now. That Maybe he was in a coma. And he wakes up and he's super smart. He knows all this. Like he's a genius now. That's the guy who got struck by lightning.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Is his name Brendan Jones? That's Brian Cowell's story. The guy who got struck by lightning that Oliver Sacks studied. No, no. This guy got knocked out. You guys are thinking of a John Travolta movie. It's embarrassing. No, Oliver Sacks studied a guy.
Starting point is 01:14:58 The guy who got struck by lightning who became obsessed with piano and became a concert pianist. Isn't that Potter? Really? No, it's a true true story Oliver Sacks studied it but there's also someone who got fucked either lightning or had a horrible concussion
Starting point is 01:15:11 woke up just floating in Chinese oh shit okay so it happens so yeah that shit happens yeah but it's one of those things where you hear about it
Starting point is 01:15:18 and you go wait a minute wait a minute never met him though I mean read this story no I think it's bullshit you think those stories are bullshit I think there's some people
Starting point is 01:15:24 that definitely get struck by lightning, and then all of a sudden they're good at math. What if it's true? What if we find out? What if we find out? It turns out that the more you get knocked out, the smarter you get. That's what happened to me. How cool would kickboxing training be, right?
Starting point is 01:15:43 How cool would kickboxing training be, right? How cool would kickboxing training be, right? You go and knock 10 people out. People would just rather be stupid. But then you'd get to knock people out on a daily basis. Ground and pound. The thing about it, he's been working with Curtis Blades, so I'm assuming he's been working this a shitload. What I think is really cool is when a mathematician works on a crazy math problem his whole life,
Starting point is 01:16:02 it bears no relevance to the physical world. Then 100 years later, they're using it to put a rover on Mars or something. It has relevance 100 years later. Overeem on top. Nasty ground and pound, man. Dude, that just hit me. I'm a little high. Do you remember when?
Starting point is 01:16:21 Do you remember when? Of course we don't. Did you see that fucking missionary, the Christian missionary? Went to that island in India and still a Satan island. And he's like, no, I'm going to give the word of Jesus. I love you and Jesus loves you too. And they're like, huh? And then killed him instantly.
Starting point is 01:16:36 I think he got shot through the Bible. What is Satan island? Is that what you said? Something like. Sentinel. I call it Sentinel island. North Sentinel island. They left Africa 60,000 years ago, and they've been living on this island.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And what's interesting is this guy... They're all Satan. I tweeted it on my page. There's a guy... Uh-oh. Oh, Overeem finished him off. Oh, this fight's over. Powerful.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Fuck yeah. Shout out to Overeem. Fight's over. Powerful Overeem. I always root for Overeem now. Always. Look at the back on that motherfucker. Still doing it, man.
Starting point is 01:17:02 38. Still doing it. Still doing it. Right there, too. One more win, and he's a title shot. He's always that guy. Still doing it, man. 38. Still doing it. Still doing it. Right there, too. One more win and he's a title shot. He's always that guy. Dallas Grover. Well, he's definitely in the hunt for it.
Starting point is 01:17:10 I mean, look. When he fought Stipe, remember when he hurt Stipe? Yeah. It's just as possible that he could have stopped. Then he tapped him, remember? Yeah, yeah. And they're like, Joe, let's bring that up. And they're like, well, maybe not there.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Well, that was when I decided not to interview people that have been KO'd. I'm just like, it's not fair. They, that was when I decided not to interview people that have been KO'd. It's not fair. They have a false memory. Like, he just got knocked out by Stipe Miocic. Dude, I wouldn't mind seeing him versus Francis again. Are you crazy, son? I don't want to see that again. I don't want to see anybody get hit like that again.
Starting point is 01:17:40 If I go through the rest of my days. What were we talking about? The Satan guy? Satan Island Oh, Sentinel North Sentinel So here's what's crazy They used to be
Starting point is 01:17:50 They used to be Sort of uncontacted But they got contacted In the 1800s By this guy Aleister Crowley Now this is a guy On Twitter
Starting point is 01:17:58 Posted this amazing review Of all this stuff His name is Respectable Law On Twitter so he posted this really long detailed history of what happened to these people and a guy named maurice vital vidal portman and this guy uh apparently stayed on the island for a long time and people got sick because of these people being there yeah they, they don't have any virus.
Starting point is 01:18:26 They have no, well, they have no immunity to what we but he measured their dick sizes and he measured their ball sizes. He made them pose in all these weird ways. Like, it's really freaky shit, but really really interesting. Like, look at these measuring the children
Starting point is 01:18:41 and stuff. Like, he treated them like moths and stuff, but talked treated them like moths and stuff. But talked about them, like, in really weird sexual terms. And this guy, it was such a bad experience for those people that... They thought they were the devil. And it was, like, a hundred years ago. So when people go back now, they immediately kill them. So because of this one dickwad that landed there a hundred years ago,
Starting point is 01:19:04 they think of white people as evil. So these two fishermen fell asleep. And I want to say it was like 2006. They fell asleep in their boat drifting onto the island. They woke up. They just fucking hatcheted them and arrowed them and killed them on the beach. They don't fuck around anymore. Bad luck.
Starting point is 01:19:18 If you think about it. Because of this one asshole. If you think about it, it's really smart in a fucked up way. Because if they come into contact with one of us, their entire population could be wiped out because they don't have immunity. But they're Satanists, right? No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Are you sure?
Starting point is 01:19:33 100%. Because that's why Homeboy went there. No, no, no, no, no, no. He just went there to convert them. I heard this from Good Morning America. No, no, no, no. No, not Satanists. Good Morning America said this.
Starting point is 01:19:41 North Sentinel Island. Dude, I'm pretty sure the last full... Satanist island. Here's the deal, Brendan. Satanism. They don't even... Satan is a Western concept, sir. They have no idea. They just hate white people.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Oh, Wu Jing is there. What? They don't like foreign people. Who's Wu Jing? I don't know. Probably an actor. He has his name up there. They just hate white people because that one dude came and fucked everything up.
Starting point is 01:20:03 And then you see a white person, kill them. We don't even know their language. So to say they're Satanists is crazy. It's like saying that you understand what they're saying. That's the rumor. How big is the island? How big is that island? Maybe they have a translator.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Size of Manhattan. Really? No, they don't have a translator, Eddie. They don't have any contact at all with the outside world. What about that guy? That guy was there. It's illegal to go there. No, that guy got killed. And he paid illegally to go there. What are they guy? That guy was there. It's illegal to go there. No, that guy got killed.
Starting point is 01:20:26 And he paid illegally to go there. It's illegal to go to that island. The fishermen got arrested. So there was a cargo ship that ran aground there many years ago. See, there it is in 1981. And the crew radioed for assistance. And then they got 50 men with bows and arrows were showing up to try to get to the boat. And they helicoptered them away.
Starting point is 01:20:47 The boat is still there. So this is a crazy-ass place, man. Sounds like an awesome movie. I know. And then from that boat, they started getting metal tools. Because they didn't have metal before that. So until the 19, what was it, 1980? It was 81, I think. Yeah, so now these people took pieces of metal and cold forged them into weapons and shit.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Like pounded them down with rocks and created knives and stuff. Damn. They're so old school. They're essentially living the same way people lived 60,000 years ago. They've been on this isolated island ever since then. That's amazing. We should just fly over and drop a ton of iPhones everywhere. The problem is they don't know how many of them there are anymore,
Starting point is 01:21:32 but they know their populations are declining. So at one point in time, there was 150 plus documented, and now they think it might be as low as 39. Because of disease and stuff, they don't have any fucking medicine. They're probably bored of each other. They stop fucking, you know, trying to get fish. You don't have time to raise a kid. Which one are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:21:50 The Sentinelese? Yeah. There's not many left. Their populations are drastically dropping. There's no genetic diversity either. I'm sure. Yeah. I mean, with 39 folks, 39 folks is a small number.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Yeah. If they're really down to that few. And they're real, real aggressive when anybody comes anywhere near them. But the thing is, now that we all know about it. I mean, I'm a part of the problem, too, right? We're all talking about this. Now that we all know about it, more people are going to think about going there. You think?
Starting point is 01:22:17 100%. I hear that, and I say, fuck leaving the United States. 100%. Where is that place? Where is it? India. It's somewhere off of India. Bay of Bengal. Bay of Bengal.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Bay of Bengal. So it doesn't seem that remote if it's in a bay. It's pretty far away. No, it's far away. It's hard to... Literally, it's illegal. It's like in the middle of the ocean. It's illegal.
Starting point is 01:22:34 So Homeboy, who's doing God's work, was like, no, I can do it. And even writing his journals, like, man, I hope I don't die. If I do, my parents don't be mad at me. I'm headed to this island. Yeah. What the fuck were you thinking, man?'s crazy he's trying to convert people he thinks people need to speak the same language they don't have any idea what he's saying like what he's from oral Roberts heart graduate from Oral Roberts
Starting point is 01:22:54 University right yeah see there that's where it is oh shit well shit way out there and a half stars out of five someone's going there oh someone's fucking with it it's the internet 3 000 reviews the internet's giving all these reviews the internet's undefeated go ahead there go ahead man there's a sweet four seasons they have great food it's called human they're gonna eat you oh god so they they uh killed the guy and then they buried him right on the beach man they just dragged his body out to the beach and the indian government said we're not gonna do anything about it like it was illegal what he did there that's all they know well yeah i mean first of all they their law is you can't visit their island that's their law so he was violating
Starting point is 01:23:42 their law him showing up up with this book, I would imagine they have laws against people visiting. Especially whites. Yeah, man. That story that they tell about that one English guy that went there, that must be a piece of shit. He fucked up for everybody. I hope that guy,
Starting point is 01:24:00 Respectable Law on Twitter, understands how much I appreciate that. Oh, no, that was cool, yeah. Because I thought they were all Satanists there. Spelled it out. You think a group of Navy SEALs could... Oh, yeah, take them all out.
Starting point is 01:24:14 What? Take them all out. Two of them would kill each other. With automatic weapons. That'd be a pretty cool movie, right? That'd be a cool movie. It'd be a cool video game. Massacre?
Starting point is 01:24:23 Genocide? But you know what? You never know. I mean, they might have some crazy booby traps. They might have some Viet Cong shit for it. Genocide? You know what I mean? Big goal.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Look at the people right here. Beautiful vacation spot. No big deal, but a Starbucks and Burger King franchise. Look at the first one. I was working with the locals. Went here with my girlfriend for a holiday. I loved it. She wasn't impressed.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Very poor choice for a romantic getaway. Great choice for anyone looking to rough it up a bit. So silly. People are so funny. Well, that island, though, is... There's got to be people going. You know what I mean? Fuck no.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Undercover adventures. There's going to be some dumbasses that try it. Dan Bilzerian's going to be there next month with a bikini on. Where is it? Off the coast of Africa? He's going to just send a boatload of vape pens. Hey, was that off the coast of Africa? I was taking a piss. India.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Off India. Off India. They have drone footage, right? They came from Africa, though, 60,000 years ago. You don't fly drones over that. Closer to Thailand, it looks like. No. Closer to Thailand?
Starting point is 01:25:20 Yeah. Oh, okay. Pretty amazing stuff. 60,000. How do they know that? How would they figure that out if you're not allowed to go on the island? But they've been around 60,000 years ago. That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:25:30 I don't know. 60,000 years ago? Well, it's like in Papua New Guinea, those tribes have been isolated for 40,000 years. Yeah. Still? Yeah, not anymore. But, I mean, when Jared Diamond went and studied them, they'd been isolated for that long. They practiced weird things, too, like widow strangling and all long. They practiced weird things too like widow strangling
Starting point is 01:25:45 and all kinds of stuff. What do you mean widow strangling? And that one tribe where the young boys suck the cocks of the older men. And take it in their ass
Starting point is 01:25:53 as well. And to become men so they take in the sperm. That's just some weird old game. I started that. Exactly. Nah, man.
Starting point is 01:26:00 I read it. But if you don't have somebody to compete with those ideas then that gets passed down as religion. I gotta piss. But if you don't have somebody to compete with those ideas, then that gets passed down as religion. I got to piss. Tell me who wins.
Starting point is 01:26:09 What? Tell me who wins. I've never seen you take a pee break. No. Yeah, this is the first time ever. There you go. Go on with your little lilac shirt. Francis Ngannou, boys. I'm excited about this fight.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Looks jacked, as always. Yeah. It's a big fight for him, man, because remember, he beat him last time, but he's coming off that steep-A ass-whooping, and then had the horrible fight against Derek Lewis, which was like the worst heavyweight fight of all time. No one won that fight. Obviously, Derek won that fight for the judges.
Starting point is 01:26:40 And then Derek goes on to fight Frick in D.C. This is his first fight since then? This is his first fight since Derek Lewis. Oh, shit. And I don't like it because obviously he struggles with wrestling. So like, oh, here's Curtis Blaze, the best wrestler in the top five. I just don't like it. I wish they would have given him someone else who matched up better.
Starting point is 01:26:57 No matter if he wins or loses, I just don't think it was a great idea. Is he from Chad? Where is he from? Ghana? Chad? The Congo. Is he from the Congo? Yeah, from? Ghana? Chad? Is he from the Congo? Yeah, Congo. Are you sure?
Starting point is 01:27:08 I don't think so. I'm pretty sure, man. I thought he was from more west. I think it's the Congo. Jamie? Where is Ghana from? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Curtis Blades. Francis Ngannou. That's a French name, so it makes sense he's from the Congo. I'm pretty sure it's Congo. Francis Ngannou. Cameroon. Cameroon so it makes sense he's from the Congo. I'm pretty sure it's Congo. Francisingano. Cameroon. Cameroon. Is that where he's from?
Starting point is 01:27:28 Yeah. What's his wildcat's name? Cameroon's one of the last places where there's sort of continuous habitat for different animals. Oh, he's coming out to Mortal Kombat. Woo! Great tune. Now they're fighting at 3.30 in the morning, our time. So it's a bit of a time change.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Yeah, it's a good time. Curtis Blades just always fights on foreign land. When did they get there? How many days do you need to adjust to that shit? They had Thanksgiving over there, so I'm assuming they got... Well, I'd imagine the UFC flies in on Tuesday like any other fight week, right? Dude, but I was... If you want to come early. It's hard to get used to sleeping over there, so I'm assuming they got... Well, I'd imagine the UFC flies in on Tuesday like any other fight week, right? If you want to come early. It's hard to get used to sleeping over there.
Starting point is 01:28:10 I can't imagine. Can't you start here? Can't you just try to take naps? You can, but the sunset and all that fucks you up. It fucks you up, man. The best way they say it is to fast for like 16 hours and then eat like when you get there in the morning, eat a breakfast and just get on the same eating.
Starting point is 01:28:27 So your body gets used to the eating cycle? But fasting is really important apparently for getting. Oh, that's what you did over there, right, B? I tried. You started doing work? Yeah. You're still tired. Are you still thinking of moving to China?
Starting point is 01:28:37 I am. I'm going to go to Beijing and live in an apartment. Yeah. Are you going to be a political dissident? Yeah. I'm going to march in Tiananmen Square. When I went to Australia, the time change
Starting point is 01:28:48 fucked me up. I was exhausted. Yeah. It'll fuck you up. Going there, I was fine. Coming back, I was so fucked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Isn't that weird that it's going back somehow or another that does it to you? Dude, I was tore up. You know, I need to try taking melatonin
Starting point is 01:29:01 when I land, when I need to go to bed that night. Does it help? I don't think so. I think it helps. You know what helps me? CBD oil. It helps me relax.
Starting point is 01:29:11 I take it in the morning, but especially at night, it helps me relax. With THC or without? Without. The thing that seems to be able to reset my system better than anything is a serious fucking workout. Like show up somewhere and do a serious workout. Like to push your cardio, lift some weights, like really get tired. a serious fucking workout. Like show up somewhere and do a serious workout. Like do you push your cardio, lift some weights, like really get tired. And that seems to set me up.
Starting point is 01:29:35 I did that in Afghanistan because I was so fucking. I like how you said that. Afghanistan. When I was in Afghanistan, we worked out. Me and Dove David have worked out like a motherfucker, and I did. It helped me a lot. I felt way better. It puts your cycle back in check. I was also afraid the whole time. Usually on the road, wherever I land, I work out. Right when I land, I'll work out and I did it helped me a lot I felt way better it puts your cycle back I was also afraid the whole time usually on the road
Starting point is 01:29:46 wherever I land I work out right when I land I'll work out and I feel better that's the move but there's a new scientific study my brain's crisper like everything's better this scientific study I'll find it I have my phone yeah please we're fasting for 16 hours is
Starting point is 01:30:01 the most important thing you can do and then reset a huge time change right resetting your clock with It's a huge time change that you're saying. Right, resetting your clock with however they're eating there. Because fuck fasting in New York. Yeah. I've heard that you should not eat on planes, too. I've heard that you're better off just not eating on planes. I'm so hungry on planes.
Starting point is 01:30:17 When you land, your body will be better off falling into this new time zone when you land if you just don't eat on the plane. I don't eat on planes. You don't eat on planes ever? I meditate. I'm in the lotus position. Dude, when they come by with that cart and they get that snack tray, they got nice cheeses and fruits and shit, Pringles.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Sometimes I just want a banana. Me too. Sometimes I just want a pack of Swedish fish. Right? Ah, banana. And I go with the Swedish fish. Oh, dude, I get Swedish fish. Yeah, and Pringles.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Smoked mackerel. Oh, the Swedish fish are the little cracker ones. No, no, Swedish fish are the red fish. Oh, dude. I get Swedish fish. Yeah, and Pringles. Smoked mackerel? Oh, the Swedish fish are the little cracker ones. No, no. Swedish fish are the red candies. You don't. You do? Sometimes. If I'm feeling frisky.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Damn. Or if I feel like I've earned it. If I'm coming back from a long freaking couple nights. That's the thing. I never feel like I earned those. Every time I eat those, I feel like a bad boy. I don't feel great after. I flew first class to London, man.
Starting point is 01:31:05 They got food, and I was eating cheeses and wines. Did you get hammered? No, but I just kept drinking and eating, and I just felt like, fuck. Did you shit on the plane? No, I don't think so. You felt terrible when you landed? I was just one big sodium bomb. Yes, I'll have more cheese.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Do you have a wheel back there? Sure. And I'll eat another ice cream sundae. I just went big sodium bomb. Yes, I'll have more cheese. Do you have a wheel back there? Sure. And I'll eat another ice cream sundae. I just went a little crazy. And wine. Yeah, that fucks me up. I find you do good writing on planes, though. You get some good ideas out.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Because it's just you alone staring at this. You're not moving, right? You're confined to this little seat. You're not going anywhere. Sometimes good ideas come when you just sit like that. It's so easy to just fuck off when you're at home. I know. You're writing.
Starting point is 01:31:52 It's so easy to just get. Let me see what's in the fridge. Let me go grab a cup of coffee. I set a timer. 23 minutes. I don't know why, but 23 minutes, and then I can't move. Can't listen to my phone. That's good, man.
Starting point is 01:32:02 I think I just, you know, I just force myself to do it. The thing is, what's weird about it is, for whatever reason, I resist doing it at first. Like, ugh. But then once I get into it and I catch a groove, I love it. It's like getting into a cold bath. Like, at first, your skin's like, fuck. And then you're like, ugh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:21 I think everything's that way. I think inspiring yourself to kind of get started and then kind of figure out a way to keep it going. Even working out, though. I did my class this morning, that box-burning cardio class. And we started. I'm like, god damn it. Why did I come?
Starting point is 01:32:35 And then halfway through, I'm like, this is great. Yeah. Well, you know what, man? I fucked myself up with that Sober October fitness challenge thing. That's a bad idea, I feel like. But this is what fucks you up. Like, afterwards, you're like, regular work, and now it seems boring. Because everything was this psycho, four hours, five hours a day.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Plus you were competing against each other. Yeah, competing against each other. You'd get anxiety, like, check the app, see where everybody scores at. Shit. You know, fuck. You know? You can do that still. You were competing against Bert Kreischer,
Starting point is 01:33:06 Ari Shaffir, and Tom Segura. So let's take it easy. No, I'm not saying that. You still, you still. You know what I mean? Like, my competition, those guys. Bert Kreischer, that fucking workout maniac. He could have coast the last three weeks and beat him.
Starting point is 01:33:21 That's Rogan's competitiveness. I'm telling you, man. He crushed him. Joe, let Cam Haynes in that motherfucker. You wouldn't have no chance. Let Cam Haynes and me in that bitch. We should do a real fitness one. Dude, I'm telling you, even if you're doing it,
Starting point is 01:33:35 the thing is, it's about how much time you spend. It's not even about how hard you're working out. See, it's like, how much time are you spending at 80% of your max heart rate? That's really what it's about. Watch how fast you spending at 80% of your max heart rate? That's really what it's about. That's, yeah. Watch how fast Ngannou is. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Oh, he's terrifying. Look at how quick he is. We should probably watch this. He's lying on his feet, too, right now. Yeah. Oh, boom. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Jesus Christ. He's just so powerful. Oh, my God. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, man. Oh, that's it. That's it. That's it. Damn. He's back. Oh, that's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Damn. He's back. Oh, my God. Starched him. Wow. No, dude, you can't. That was crazy. A tad of an early stoppage for me.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Wow. I don't know. It looked like it was almost an early stoppage. He was working his way back up. No, that's not what I'm thinking. I was going to say it looked like it was almost an early stoppage and then they let it go on and then it was a decent stoppage. I agree. Because that's how you save a fighter.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Didn't it seem like in the beginning that they were going to stop it? Yeah. He got concussed right away. He got three chances. Curtis Blaine is 26 years old. He's got a lot of fight left in him. So that's a good stoppage for his future. Oh, he just got caught. Literally just got caught.
Starting point is 01:34:45 I think it was the only way he was future. Oh, he just got caught. Yeah. Literally just got caught. Good stoppage for his future. I think it was the only way he was going to lose this fight is getting caught. Yep. God. That's what happened. Man, God will look fast. Listen, the levels of stand-up between them. I mean, Curtis Blades is a good stand-up fighter, but a really good wrestler. His wrestling stats are like some of the best in the heavyweight division ever.
Starting point is 01:35:03 It's the best as far as successful takedowns. Boom, he clipped him in the back of the head with that hammer. Oh, my God. Boom. See, like right there, it looked like the ref was about to stop it. Boom. Wow, he has so much power. He runs over there, and look, he touches him.
Starting point is 01:35:18 He touched him. You're not supposed to touch him. He probably just ran into him on accident. Yeah. I don't know, man man i thought he was gonna stop boom and that then he decides it that's it that's it that's it that's a dangerous job man super see uh that uh clip from the muay thai one of the uh muay thai websites has it up there of this uh referee is stepping in to stop this fight and his head kicked kicked. Yeah, I saw it. He gets knocked out. He takes a shin right to the dome.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Gets knocked the fuck out. Well, he stayed conscious, but he went down. Looks like he was moving. But he got head kicked. That's a dangerous man in the first round. Dude, can you imagine me and Curtis Blades right now? You took the plane for 20 hours to fly over to get knocked down in 45 seconds. The worst.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Yeah. Always a possibility with Ngannou. God damn. Yeah. Get friggin' Ngannou, get back on track. I wasn't crazy about the fight for him. Yeah. What did he say about that fight, officially?
Starting point is 01:36:16 Which one? Where he didn't throw any punches. He said he carried the fear of his last fight. His confidence was down. And then Derek Lewis was hurt. so you get a shit show you know yeah it's neither one of those fault derrick was hurt with his back francis had no confidence it was crazy i mean it was the squeakiest of squeaky margins for derrick to win because nothing really happened in the fight yeah no one really won but meanwhile we were talking about
Starting point is 01:36:43 that fight we were like holy shit this is going to be bombs away. That's why I think most people say it's the worst heavyweight fight because you just thought it was going to be fucking fireworks. I think I might have even said in the commentary, there's not a doubt in my mind that this is going to be crazy. But who wouldn't think that? That's fair to think with their two fighting styles. I thought it was going to be chaos.
Starting point is 01:37:04 I thought Derek was going to be throwing. I thought it was going to be awesome. Derek is going to be throwing haymakers, trying to find his chin. I'd like to see him go at it again, actually. Oh, I would love to see that. Is Floyd really fighting that one kickboxer? No. Yes. Yeah, you know, he is.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Apparently, they've agreed to it. It's real, but it's going to be a- An exhibition boxing match. It's fake. It's a boxing match. It's fake. They're probably going to wear big gloves. No kicks?
Starting point is 01:37:25 No kicks. At all? No. Oh. Unless- Can't have that guy kick. Floyd's a boxing match. It's fake. They're probably going to wear big gloves. No kicks? No kicks. At all? No. Oh. You can't have that guy kick. Floyd's too smart for that. Unless the fucking Japanese just say, okay, so we agree. Kick it, too.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Go. Unless the Akusa goes up to that young kid and go, hey, here, fucking head kick him, KO. We're going to give you $2 million. Yeah, in the middle of the first round. Which would be kind of cool to see. but they'll rush you through some contract negotiations okay here we go it was weird because floyd was like that was all bullshit i never agreed to any of this then a week later he's like actually we're gonna do it listen man japanese are they do a different kind of business they're very clever over there you know the ufc got kind of they got
Starting point is 01:38:03 kind of look when you look at the sale of pride, what happened with all that, they did a smart thing. A really smart thing. One thing, they came over and they pretended they were going to have pride fighters fighting the UFC and UFC fighters fighting pride. Remember that? In the early days, the UFC
Starting point is 01:38:20 sent Chuck Liddell over there and they were going to bring fighters over to America, but they never did. Yeah, no. They never did. They had to wait until they bought it. And then when they bought it, they basically just bought a DVD library. Yep.
Starting point is 01:38:31 And they spent like $60 million for Pride. And when they got it, they couldn't even run it. So then they had these people that were running the office, and these people running the office, they just went off and made Dream. They made their own shit. Right. And so they were like stuck. They sold basically a logo and a brand.
Starting point is 01:38:45 They got these contracts. The contracts weren't even any good. Like they didn't, like a lot of the fighters were not bound to them. You know, like Fedor. Like they didn't have Fedor. They didn't have a lot of things. And they owed a lot of guys money.
Starting point is 01:38:57 And they thought they were going to operate in Japan. Like, well, we're going to run Pride too. Yeah, right. That shit, no chance, man. No way. But what they did with those smart is the the first thing pride did was they pumped up their own value by bringing their fighters over here and pretending their fight is going to fight chuck liddell remember they had that crazy stare
Starting point is 01:39:16 down way back in the day but but then they never did you everybody's always talking about but they sent chuck to pride yeah they should but was a point in time where they did not want Pride mentioned on the air. No, they hate him. They did not want their name mentioned. How is Bellator hard to say they fought in Japan? The UFC also honeydicked the WME when they sold theirs. They went, look, dude, we got Ronda. We got Brock.
Starting point is 01:39:42 We got Conor. We're doing all this big shit, man. And then they sold it for $4 billion. They're like, all right, Ronda's going to retire, so we can't do nothing about that. Brock's on WWE, so we'll figure that out. Well, the Ronda thing was during the purchase. They had already purchased it. That was the last Ronda fight, the comeback fight.
Starting point is 01:40:01 They had already purchased it. That's also probably why it was marketed the way it was marketed. Correct. All eggs in. That was one of the rare times where I publicly was like, this is not, you guys aren't doing the right thing. Because Amanda Nunes is the champion. She's a world champion.
Starting point is 01:40:17 She stopped Misha Tate. She strangled her. Like, you've got to give her respect. She's still not as respected as she should be. But that was a crazy one. That was the worst one I've ever seen. The whole commercial was all Ronda. Nothing of Amanda Nunes. And for a couple seconds it's like Amanda doing something real quick
Starting point is 01:40:30 and that's it. They're sure like hitting a bag but the rest was like. First ever women's MMA champion that's a lesbian. First ever UFC gay champion. With her girlfriend in the corner. Yeah, who's also a UFC champion. So first ever gay UFC champion, right? Yeah. And no one talks about it. That we know of.
Starting point is 01:40:46 That we know of, right. I think that's it. We haven't had women's in a minute that long. For champions? Well, you're saying guy or gal? Girl. I'm just trying to be funny. I started thinking about what gay champion. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Who could be gay? But Amanda vs. Cyborg is super interesting to me. Very interesting. I can't wait. Super interesting to me. Because, you know, Cyborg, she's way bigger.
Starting point is 01:41:12 She's bigger. How about Amanda fighting Raquel Pennington and both their girlfriends fighting the UFC too and are in their corners. Yeah. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:41:19 That's insane. Not insane in a bad way, but it's cool. Yeah. I mean, we've come a long ways. Yeah, it's different it's fascinating to watch uh jds coming back yeah jds fighting um
Starting point is 01:41:31 chef i came they've both been out of fucking grip kane's coming back you hear that is that real yeah when 2019 but when did they have a date no No Just announced he's back And DC posted Hey he said the belt's waiting for a champ Whoa Yeah cause he's back So what do you guys think Of Amanda against Cyborg? I think Amanda's gotta move
Starting point is 01:41:54 I think only Does she have a chance? Sure she's got a chance She's a beast But Oh shit that's a great fight Tied to a Vasa JDS That's right
Starting point is 01:42:02 That's a motherfucking fight I think only your ad favorite Could probably beat Cyborg. I don't. There's no girls. There's no fight. There's no girls. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:09 But she's got a chance. It's like Joanna, man. It's not happening. She's got a chance. Amanda Nunez is probably my favorite female fighter, too. What does she walk around at? What do you think? Amanda?
Starting point is 01:42:19 She's probably in the 160s, if I had to guess. And what do you think Cyborg walks around at? We went through this, right? We went through this. She's like 80s, 70s. 80-something. She's down to the 160s, if I had to guess. And what do you think Cyborg walks around at? We went through this, right? We went through this. She said like 80s, 70s. 80-something. She's down to, you know. She's bigger.
Starting point is 01:42:30 It does not matter. She's bigger. She's such an animal. She's so much bigger. That's going to be a crazy fight, man. Yeah. That's on the same card as Gus Van Jones 2, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Yeah. After the year. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. Gus has been out a hot minute. I can't wait for that fight. Yeah. After the year. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. Gustafson's been out a hot minute. I can't wait for that fight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:47 I know, right? I think the key to anybody that's going to be able to beat Cyborg is you're going to have to catch her coming in and hurt her. And have a hard cock. No girls beating Cyborg, man. No girls beating Cyborg. There's not a girl on this planet that can beat Cyborg in MMA. I would agree.
Starting point is 01:43:04 What about that one dude that turned into a chick? She would get fucking dealt with. She already got beat by a chick. What was her name? I forgive her. She got beat by a chick, right? Yeah, she lost her last fight. Fallon Fox.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Fallon Fox. Ashley Evans-Smith beat her. Ashley Evans-Smith, who's in the UFC, beat her. Damn. Came to the UFC. Yeah. Nice. Cyborg beat both of them up at the same time now.
Starting point is 01:43:23 I mean, she's such an animal man You've seen her spar With like dudes And then that Olympian Clarissa Shields Who's a world champion Yeah Like dude
Starting point is 01:43:31 She does not fuck around She doesn't fuck around And she's way bigger And this is her last fight On her contract too Well you know what man I mean I could easily see Someone like 1FC
Starting point is 01:43:40 Grabbing her as well Look they're grabbing A lot of people now It's really interesting to me. Who else are they grabbing, though? They have Siamisha Tate, but that's business. Well, they got Eddie Alvarez. He just went over there.
Starting point is 01:43:51 That's right. They got Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson. He just went over there. And they're looking to expand their roster. And I think they're looking to also break into the Western marketplace. You know, they have that app. You can get the app and watch the fights on your phone. I've only seen highlights at 1FC. I've never seen it. You can get the app and watch the fights on your phone. I've only seen highlights of one FC.
Starting point is 01:44:07 I've never seen it. You can watch it for free. You get the app and you watch it for free. How's Bellator doing in comparison to UFC? Bellator's not doing as well as the UFC, but they're doing well. They're doing well. They're on the Paramount Network. They get pretty good ratings.
Starting point is 01:44:19 They're developing stars. They're also with Roy McDonald, Gegard Mousasi. Then with the heavyweight, with Bader Fedor. The heavyweight tournament was sick. They're doing well. What do you they also With Roy McDonald Gagar Musasi Then with the heavyweight With Bader Fedor Like the heavyweight tournament Was sick Yeah They're doing well What do you think about
Starting point is 01:44:29 Oscar De La Hoya Promoting MMA Complete shit show Not this one Did you see the last one he did Did you see him At the press conference Why a shit show
Starting point is 01:44:36 Hey I want to see Chuck And Tito No no It's not a shit show Because it's Chuck and Tito Did you see Oscar De La Hoya At the press conference He's like
Starting point is 01:44:44 He got Chuck Liddell's name wrong and then you have these other guys. How did he say Chuck Liddell? I forget it. Liddell. Liddell. Liddell.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Everyone used to say Chuck Liddell. At first, that's what you said. He just didn't know any of the fighters. He didn't know any of the fighters
Starting point is 01:45:00 and he was... It's the first one. You give him a little bit of that. And what else did he say? He goes, and then, you know, we have other fights other fights too these guys behind me i don't know their names but you know i'm not gonna remember their name no way yeah he said that yeah it's just dead silence he's like you know when you think of mma when you think of fighters at all you know you just think of these two there's no one else well that is the dumbest way to promote a fight it was so bad
Starting point is 01:45:23 oscars had you had how many professional fights? A lot. And he snorts all the cocaine? Does he do all of it? Watch this press conference. He's all, and, uh. He's like, it's freezing in here. Is that a fact or is it a conspiracy theory?
Starting point is 01:45:37 I don't think Oscar's love. No, he's admitted. He came on air as a dad abuse prom. It's pretty. I like devil's dandruff. I don't think his love is. Devil's dandruff? I don't think his love is MMA.
Starting point is 01:45:46 His love is boxing. It's just, you know, he's doing this because it's a good money making venture. You know what I hope it does well?
Starting point is 01:45:52 Because Tito and Chuck will benefit the most from it for money. So I want people to buy it because of that reason. Is MC Hammer still in the game?
Starting point is 01:45:59 No. No? You know he was my manager. What? Yeah. Holy shit, you hung out with him?
Starting point is 01:46:04 Oh yeah. Damn. MC Hammer, long talks, great dude, smart Yeah. Holy shit. You hung out with him? Oh, yeah. Damn. Dean Herring, long talks. Great dude. Smart dude. What happened? Why did he get out of MMA? Because it's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:46:11 You know, he was like, well, I like money. Fuck this sport. That's hilarious. Well, how else is he making money? Dude, he's one of the first investors in Facebook. Twitter, too, right? So he's filthy rich? Yeah. Oh, shit. Okay. And I remember he goes,? So he's filthy rich? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Oh, shit. Okay. And I remember he goes, well, there's a difference between being bankrupt and being MC Hammer bankrupt. He goes, I wasn't like poor. See, I was still balling.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Yeah. He still had like $12 million in his bag. He was killing it. Smart dude, man. I'm sure. Interesting. What were we just talking about
Starting point is 01:46:43 before this? Before MC Hammer? Amanda Nunez and no no no that was way long devil island if you're white you can't go to the island anymore now completely lost how did we get to mc hammer uh we're talking about fight promoting oh one fc oh one fc i've never watched the de la la Hoya. Look, I hope they all do good. You definitely need more competition. There's more fighters than there are fights.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Right. And the hard thing, though, is that the UFC is like Q-tips, right? It's like when you think you don't want cotton swabs, give me some fucking Q-tips. They've got the market. Yeah, there's tissue. For now. There's Kleenex. For now.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Yeah, for now. For now, but there's always... I don't know if there is. It's such a part of the cultural landscape like some people go do you ufc yeah how fucking dare you but i would hope that they would get to the point i would hope this is my goal my hope is that a lot of organizations are like a lot of these boxing organizations when you look at like world champions like Deontay Wilder who's about to fight Tyson Fury, you can have guys that have different promoters,
Starting point is 01:47:49 and they work together some sort of a deal, and then they put together the fights. That's better for the fighters if the fights get, and the fighters and other organizations get as popular as, you know, it's like Manny Pacquiao fighting Floyd Mayweather. They have to have these promoters figure out how to put that fight together. That's better for the sport. Better for everybody.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Because when Ben Askren is whooping ass over in 1FC, wouldn't you love if he just fought the champion of the UFC or Bellator's champion? Like, Gagar Musasi fighting Woodley right now or fighting Whitaker. I'd love to see that. They're going to be the absolute champ. They're going to be very happy that they signed Ben Askren. It's going to be fun. He's smart.
Starting point is 01:48:23 He talks a lot of shit. And it took forever to get him over here and a lot of people are in deep shit. They're in deep shit. He's going to grab a hold of them and wrestle fuck them to the ground and punch their face in. There's not going to be much they're going to be able to do to him. A lot of people are going to be in real trouble.
Starting point is 01:48:38 He's a star man. When he goes anywhere, they're cheering for him. The interviews are scrum for him. Look, man. People have seen interviews online. They've seen the podcast that I did with him. They've seen all of his fights. If you watch highlight reels, you can see all of his fights. You and I jack them off every show we get. Every show.
Starting point is 01:48:55 And then in 1FC, they allowed him to knee to the head on the ground, too. You get side control and he's going to fuck out of your head. It's a nightmare, man. It's a nightmare. You can also get north-south. North-south, knees to the head. Oh, my God. Yeah, man. It's a nightmare. You can also get north-south. North-south, knees to the head. Oh, my God. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Oh, my God. You can fuck somebody up with that. This is FS1? Yeah, man. Oh, fuck. Don't say FS1. 1FC. Oh, 1FC, I mean.
Starting point is 01:49:14 I know what you meant. FoxSports1 is a channel. 1FC, I meant. But to be able to do that, to be able to land knees to the head on the ground like that, it's a giant advantage for a wrestler. Yeah. Giant advantage. And to take it away from them, you limit what is really good about being on top.
Starting point is 01:49:30 What's really good about being on top is you could smash them anywhere. Jesus. It's kind of weird. Those knees. Did you hear the rumor about Cowboy Connor? I did. Yeah. That could be a sick fight.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Yeah. I hope Cowboy gets that fight. I think that's a possibility. Yeah. I think that's a money-making fight. It makes sense for both guys especially for connor yeah i know connor wants the khabib rematch but it's like dude let's get one and then go back that way but you gotta win that'd be really i'm not saying cowboys an easy fight but it's a better matchup than khabib or tony and then tony khabib fight. It's going to be interesting to see what kind of shit talking because Cowboy did not have a good time with the shit talking
Starting point is 01:50:10 of Nate Diaz. He got on his hat? Nate Diaz. Or Jorge Masvidal. He doesn't like that shit talking. Doesn't like that shit talking. Oh and Conor goes, you guys did that? Watch this. He's going to ramp it up to 11. I think Cowboy, if he grabs a hold of Conor and takes him to the ground,
Starting point is 01:50:25 Conor's in a world of shit, too. Because Cowboy's a hell of a wrestler and a hell of a- He's a hell of a striker, too, man. Yeah. It's a different world. It's not an easy fight. As far as the odds, I'm assuming Conor would barely be a favorite. It would be 155?
Starting point is 01:50:40 155. Look, Conor's, the speed that he has, the one-shot KO power, Conor's The speed that he has The one shot KO power Like Conor can do some shit To motherfuckers And when you see him Fight Eddie Alvarez That's when you really realize
Starting point is 01:50:53 Like Eddie Alvarez Is tough as fuck And Conor just put it on him He can He can fuck people up Although Cowboy put it on Eddie too He did But he didn't do it
Starting point is 01:51:03 The same way Conor did No not like Conor He beat him He beat his legs up He beat did. But he didn't do it the same way Conor did. No, not like Conor. He beat him. He beat his legs up. He beat his legs up. He dismantled. Conor dismantled Eddie. I think some of that might have been shots. I think that also is a little misleading because I feel like a lot of that, again, was because
Starting point is 01:51:18 Conor got into Eddie's head. But Eddie's better than that. Look at that shit. Eddie's been doing it a long time. Conor McGregor is a two to one favorite. That doesn't make any sense to me. Well, it does make shit. Eddie's been doing it a long time. Conor McGregor is a two-to-one favorite. That doesn't make any sense to me. Well, it does make sense. He's not as good a wrestler. Well, it makes sense in terms of how experts.
Starting point is 01:51:32 Because you're going based off how Cowboy won his last fight. But Cowboy's fallen some tough times. I love Cowboy more than anyone in this room. But Cowboy's fallen some tough times. Well, he's got the most winning record in UFC history, too, I believe. So I'm also going by that. And he also looks fucking good lately. Well, he looked fantastic against Mike Perry.
Starting point is 01:51:48 He looked amazing. But Mike Perry is a big difference in movement. But look, I like the fight. Overall fighter. I like the fight a lot. And I do agree that if Cowboy gets a hold of anybody on the ground, he's got crazy ground skills. Cowboy's better crazy leg kicks.
Starting point is 01:52:05 Hold on. Cowboy's better off his back. If Conor were to take him down, he would be screwed. Cowboy on top is not a technician on top. No, I disagree. You think he's a technician on top? Cowboy from his back. Cowboy from his back is very good. He's good everywhere.
Starting point is 01:52:18 He's good everywhere. That's what I think. He's special off his back. Yes, yes, but. He'll fuck you up from the top, too. Yeah, he's got great top. Most of his He's special off his back. Yes, yes, but. He'll fuck you up from the top, too. Yeah, he's got great timing. Most of his submissions are from his back. That's true because he throws a lot of kicks and guys take him down.
Starting point is 01:52:30 Correct. And he just snatches shit up really quick. That's where he's super special off his back. Yeah. But he's just, he's very underrated as a grappler. Yes. And you saw him when he reversed Mike Perry. Fucking amazing.
Starting point is 01:52:39 And then fucked his arm up. Yeah. How about Mike Perry? He left Jackson's. He's like, dude, I felt like it was, you know, I didn't want to be part of this. You know, I came there to train, and all of a sudden I got put in the middle of this drama. He left? He left.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Oh, wow. He's no longer there. Oh, wow. He looked great, too. I thought he looked good. You know, obviously he had the hiccup of taking Cowboy down, but I thought Perry looked pretty fucking good, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:02 No, Perry did look very good. He's been looking better and better, but he just fucked up and took him down. That fight was just Cowboy had his number. Cowboy sparred with him who knows how many times over at Jackson's. Yeah, and in the grappling, apparently Cowboy dominated him. But I guess Perry said in their training camp
Starting point is 01:53:18 he was taking so many guys down. It was almost like a natural reaction for him. He goes, dude, part of the fight, just took him down. Didn't even think about it because that's what I was doing in camp. Right. And then Winkle John goes, that was not part of the plan. We did not want to take Cowboy down.
Starting point is 01:53:31 So where is he going to go now? I don't know. He was ATT before, right? Yeah. I don't know. But for him, man, he's getting so much better if he just stays consistent and gets with a legit camp. Maybe get his ass up to TriStar.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Or AKA. I like the... Something about going to Montreal is sexy. So cold. The coldest I've ever been. Plus you're in another country. It's so far. You've got to also just really super concentrate on what you're doing
Starting point is 01:54:00 because it's all you're doing. It's a beautiful city though. It's a great city. I love that city. And food. I could live there. Allegedly. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:54:10 I think that camp, you've got to be with one of the wizards. There's many great wizards of MMA. But to really maximize your potential, you've got to be with someone who can put it all together. And you can pick your favorite wizards, but one of my favorite wizards for sure is Firas. I think he's one of the best. How about Matt Hume? One of the best.
Starting point is 01:54:33 One of the best for sure. Matt Hume's the best. Who else does he have? You've got Duke Rufus. Matt Hume does not have very many high-level guys that have been. I mean, he did work with Maurice, though. He did work with Maurice Smith. He's in Seattle, right?
Starting point is 01:54:44 Yes, he's in Seattle. right yes he's in amc pancreation but he um was a great fighter himself just great knowledge of the game but what he just by proof of what he did with mighty mouse and the way they talk to each other in the corner and you realize like there's a system they're operating under and they're like this is very high level very technical very sophisticated they're staying one step ahead of everything sometimes that works for dimitrius dimitrius is a very cerebral smart fighter so that doesn't High level, very technical, very sophisticated. They're staying one step ahead of everything, and they know what they're doing. But sometimes that works for Demetrius. Demetrius is a very cerebral, smart fighter.
Starting point is 01:55:09 So that doesn't necessarily mean Mike Perry's going to be able to plug in and work. That's true, too. I think Mike Perry would do great somewhere with a Jason Perillo in San Diego. Sure. That could be fucking a dope connection for him. Yeah, or- He has to find that right coach. Alliance, San Diego would be great, too.
Starting point is 01:55:23 Yeah, I feel like that'd be good for him down there. There's always good spots, man. But I think that having a fresh look is not the worst thing in the world. But I think... You can't have too many fresh looks, though. You gotta put your roots somewhere. Otherwise, you're like, what? Where's Frank Edgar learn his boxing from?
Starting point is 01:55:37 Frank Edgar? Mark Henry? Yeah. Wow. Phenomenal coach. One of the masterminds. Yeah, he's one of the masters. He's one of the great masters.
Starting point is 01:55:43 He works in Barbosa. Frank Edgar. Eddie Alvarez. Also owns masterminds. Yeah, he's one of the masters. He's boxing and he works in Barboza, Frank Jaeger, Eddie Alvarez. Also owns a pizza place. Yeah, that's my guy. That was his pizza place? You said it was really good. The best. You actually sent me a text after you ate that pizza and you go,
Starting point is 01:55:57 I ate the best, because we always talk about Jelena's pizza. He goes, I ate the best pizza in the world, bro. I was like, well, that's a random text, but I don't give a shit. It's a different pizza. I hate being that guy, but bagels and pizza are different over there different water they say right it's not jersey water it's different it's a different moisture in the air dude i've been good on my diet i've been so good on my diet getting you know losing weight for my special but i've been good on my diet trying to get slim yeah yeah trying to get away from the special you know
Starting point is 01:56:20 we're doing different fasting and extra cardio how many hours of fasting? Man, I wake up at 6. And then I quit eating at 6 p.m. at night. So 6 to 6. And then I don't eat until usually 10 or 11 in the afternoon. Yeah. So. Wow. But anyways.
Starting point is 01:56:35 Anyway. So I've been good on my diet, but I go to New York next week. And artichoke pizza or King's Pizza, I think it's called King Street. I just can't turn it down. Artichoke pizza is your shit? No, the company's called Artichoke. I fucking hate artichoke. or king's pizza i think it's called king street i just can't turn it down artichoke pizza is your shit no the company's called artichoke i fucking hate artichoke the white pizza the white sauce no that's not bullshit you don't like that stuff fuck no i gotta have red sauce man yeah but artichoke pizza in new york my mouth's watering bro there's some places that have good white pizza i didn't experience good white pizza until i had it
Starting point is 01:57:02 at uh nicky's in White Plains. Nicky's Pizzeria in White Plains, New York. Right down the street from Executive Billiards. They had white pizza that would knock your dick right in the dirt. It had melted butter and garlic on it and ham and shit. And you'd bite into it and be like, holy fuck. Yeah, that's where a lot of Italians
Starting point is 01:57:20 were in White Plains. I mean, hey, is White Castle too? No. Listen, it's not my favorite. Is White Castle still around? Remember White Castle? Yeah. The small burgers? Those little burgers? Those are from 1940?
Starting point is 01:57:30 They make a vegan one, bro. They make a vegan burger. White Castle? Fuck yeah. Dude, is there a Burger King around here? Really? Isn't that the case?
Starting point is 01:57:36 White Castle's still going on? Yeah, probably. I think, I'm pretty sure White Castle, for all our vegan friends, they make a vegan burger now. White Castle does.
Starting point is 01:57:44 It's about time which is like that's literally like buying a vitamin from a poison factory that's a bad idea do you sell vitamins too yeah yeah if you're a vegan and like you're buying vegan burgers soy from a company that slaughters millions of animals a year. Impossible burger. Impossible burger. You feel better? How about Taco Bell? Taco Bell puts essentially sand
Starting point is 01:58:13 in, well, sodium bicarbonate. Wait, bro. No, silicon bicarbonate. So they're beef filling. They're not allowed to call it beef filling. They have not allowed to call it beef filling. They have to call it taco filling because the beef has silicone in it to make it fuller and more. Look it up.
Starting point is 01:58:33 That shit is delicious. Look up what's in Taco Bell. How would you doubt that? How would you need evidence for that? It's Taco Bell. You can't defend Taco Bell. That's a conspiracy theory, by the way. I believe it.
Starting point is 01:58:49 Dude, a double-decker taco? I don't give a fuck. Is there a YouTube link on it? Yeah, dude, bro. Look at the- Because if there's no YouTube link, it's not real. Is Callan true? Where'd you hear this, Callan?
Starting point is 01:58:58 Watch this. What are you getting your news from? This is dark. Silica. Taco Bell is serious. Hey, Brian, I believe you. We're talking about Taco Bell. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:59:06 I don't. It's not in there. Isolated oat products, salt, chili pepper, onion powder, tomato powder. Silicone dioxide. Anti-caking agent. Now look that up. Silicone dioxide anti-caking agent. How about that?
Starting point is 01:59:19 Here we go. You guys love Taco Bell. There you go, guys. What does it say? Love it. Anti-caking agent to avoid clumping in supplements. It's used to prevent various powdered ingredients from sticking together. Many food additives consumers often have concerns about silicon dioxide as an additive.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Probably fine. Is it safe? Is it cancerous? Look at that. That's sand. See that? That's what they put in there. Also frequently found in health food nutritional supplements as an additive, silicon dioxide
Starting point is 01:59:44 primarily functions as an anti-caking agent, which prevents ingredients from binding together. But it doesn't say if it's cancerous. Dude, if you eat it every now and then, you'll be fine. Proven carcinogen. Look at this. Proven carcinogen. Well, who said it?
Starting point is 01:59:57 It's a McDonald's answer. It's in their buns. It says silicon dioxide is a proven carcinogen. Why does McDonald's opt to use this in buns, potentially hurting human health? Trace mineral. Silicon is categorized as a trace mineral, Ben, which means that it's needed in minimal amounts to maintain health. As its requirement is very small, it's recommended daily allowance for silicon has not been specified
Starting point is 02:00:18 because it's not food. Duh. However, experts suggest that a daily consumption in the range of 20-30 milligrams is needed to stay healthy. Who wrote that? Is that McDonald's writing this? Who's writing this? Is this McDonald's writing this? It's called Your Questions.
Starting point is 02:00:35 I guess it is just a trace mineral, maybe. Maybe it is. If McDonald's is saying it, then for sure. You know that food has a slimy thing on it? But here's the thing. If McDonald's is saying it Then for sure But you know It has a significant role You know that food Has like a slimy thing on it But here's the thing
Starting point is 02:00:47 If they can't really say all this If it's not true If they do They get in deep shit Yeah So it might be real That silicon is a trace mineral It's an important part
Starting point is 02:00:57 Of our own food But it also You're putting dirt In your burgers bro It's also food Food grade So maybe it's different But even so
Starting point is 02:01:03 It's like why Is it in there though Even if you're saying It's okay to grade, so maybe it's different. But even so, it's like, why is it in there, though? Even if you're saying it's okay to eat. So it doesn't cake up. Didn't you read that? They need it. You can't have a cake. It's filler, man.
Starting point is 02:01:14 36% beef. It's only 36% beef in Taco Bell. The other 64% is a wide range of fillers, extenders, preservatives. 36% beef. 64% is made with fillers, extenders, and preservatives. Didn't we kind of know this? When I go talk about it, I'm not like, this is 100% beef. Ever.
Starting point is 02:01:34 This shit is delicious. When were those cows killed? Did you really think it was 64% fillers? I don't think. When I eat that, I'm like, listen, man, this isn't going to be good. I'm going to shit my pants, but I love their fucking tostadas and double duckers. Have you heard that conspiracy theory that McDonald's, you know, it says 100% beef, that that's an actual trademark name, 100% beef?
Starting point is 02:01:54 Yeah. Is that for real or is that not a conspiracy theory? I read that. I don't know if it's true. I don't think they can say that. I did read that, though. I think they can get sued for that. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:02:00 It was like a slogan they did. That's the name of their beef. It's called 100% beef. It's called 100% beef. It's called 100% beef. Oh, so they named it 100% beef, even though it's 40%. That's the conspiracy theory. So I don't know. I don't even know if that's true.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Food industry does some shit. Is McDonald's the same as Taco Bell in terms of what percentage of it is actually beef? Yes. Look at their chicken nuggets. The one thing that's really weird about that... Besides snot. The one thing that's fucked up about the the beef that you get in hamburger from mcdonald's is those cows can come from 10 different parts of the globe so you're eating the cows from china argentina united states who cares and all those cows
Starting point is 02:02:35 they all taste the same it was all been killed then it's brought together so so it's all smushed i like one cow bro well i don't give a fuck. My burger has come from, I have to know the cow's name. I have to. I'll tell you, I think the healthiest thing for you at McDonald's is the McFlurry. It's not true. No, no, no. Filet-O-Fish is made from real fish. Jamie just pulled up.
Starting point is 02:02:56 Filet-O-Fish is awesome. Have you had a McRib? Those are real ribs. You sure? You know they take meat and form it as a fucking rib? Is that true? Let's read the McDonald thing. The McDonald thing is not true.
Starting point is 02:03:09 I love the fish, though. Make that larger, please. I want a fish sandwich. It's not true, Eddie. Well, smaller again so it fits the screen. There you go. Well, this is a fascinating premise. There is nothing to it.
Starting point is 02:03:17 McDonald's hamburger patties in the U.S. are made with 100% USDA inspected beef. They are cooked and prepared with salt, pepper, and nothing else. No preservatives, no fillers. All right. Debunked. So it's pretty healthy. It's debunked. How is that possible?
Starting point is 02:03:32 Wait, what does it say? What does the top of that say? What is the title of it? Are McDonald's hamburgers 100% beef? Dude, why doesn't Taco Bell get on that train? They're just like, nah, fuck it. They're like, fuck it. Fuck it, bro.
Starting point is 02:03:42 You know it's shitty for you. They're way worse than McDonald's then. Way worse. God, they're both delicious. Wait, McDonald's buys their meat from a company called 100% Beef. That's not true. That's not true? That's what it's saying.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Oh, that's the conspiracy theory. Okay. Balls. So it's saying it's false. Okay. So it is. Look, man, you could probably get beef pretty goddamn cheap if you do it that way and just grind it all down.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Yeah, masses. I still like del taco myself all that stuff is so gross but if you go to a real taco spot bro me and you have a mcdonald's breakfast i love mcdonald's i will up an egg mcmuffin i will up it i think that's real i'm gonna play the sausage mcgriddle i think it's an egg that's good here's the thing if you get egg McMuffin with ham They really can't fuck with that That egg's suspect
Starting point is 02:04:29 If you get that sausage Who knows what's in that shit son But if you get that ham That's up your head now How about the bread That they soak in syrup Curious No the eggs actually
Starting point is 02:04:38 Lately they It's the only thing That they make there What? The egg McDonald's said that The chickens and eggs They use now
Starting point is 02:04:44 They don't have I think They don't use use now, they don't have, I think... They don't use antibiotics? They don't have beaks. Look at this. Containing eggs that are freshly cracked in McDonald's restaurants. It's impressive. The rest of the chain's egg items, such as scrambled eggs and egg whites, are made from liquid eggs. So that's where you go.
Starting point is 02:04:58 You go with the regular chicken... Or you go with the regular Egg McMuffins. Who doesn't get an egg on their Egg McMuffin? Who just gets the sausage patty? Well, the sausage patty's just, you don't know what you're getting with that. No, you'd be getting an egg. Tastes good, though. Egg bacon.
Starting point is 02:05:11 Those sausage patties are quite tasty. They're so good. They're so nice. They have scientists, and they're working on taste for real. They do a good job. And it works. They do a good job. The bread soaked in syrup.
Starting point is 02:05:20 What about that? You're talking about the McGriddles. The McGriddles. Come on, man. The McGriddle is basically candy It's brilliant It's candy with meat That and a Filet-O-Fish
Starting point is 02:05:28 It's very good It's very good I like it I feel good when I eat it Eddie Who the fuck orders Filet-O-Fish? Dude Filet-O-Fish
Starting point is 02:05:34 I love Filet-O-Fish I've never had one You're the first person I've ever talked about it That's my dessert Now I love that shit I love Filet-O-Fish too Really? They're very good
Starting point is 02:05:42 They're good in that We should post them That tartar sauce I still think the best hamburgers are In-N-Out. In-N-Out are the best hamburgers, right? No. Five Guys is pretty goddamn good, too. Never had Five Guys.
Starting point is 02:05:51 Five Guys with sliced jalapenos. Dude, I'll tell you, fuck. Shake Shack is very fucking good. Shake Shack's delicious. You know who shits on all these? Dude, Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A does it fucking right. Can't order on Sunday.
Starting point is 02:06:03 No, fuck a beef. Just their chicken sandwich is the best. What's that? Which one? Chick-fil-A. It's good. Can't overdo it on Sunday. No, fuck a beef. It's all chicken. Just their chicken sandwich is the best. What's that? Which one? Chick-fil-A. It's good. Very good. It's good.
Starting point is 02:06:08 It's good. It can't fuck with five guys. Just good? Yeah, it's pretty good. Chick-fil-A is delicious. They made their name off that goddamn sandwich. And I'll tell you something else, because they got pickles and stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Now, Shake Shack, that jalapeno, smoked jalapeno bacon burger, get the fuck out of here right now. I'll tell you what, for my cold hard earned cash i just get a whopper with cheese ketchup only from i can't fuck with burger king cheap beef cheap shit you can't fuck with it i have to be fucking super hungry in the middle of the desert you know like on the way to fresno for me to fuck with burger king i gotta be desperate and that stupid wooden king that they have that's a dumb ad Wendy's is different though
Starting point is 02:06:46 I'm down with Wendy's I love Wendy's I love their fries Oh Wendy's on another level Oh yeah See I'm a big Burger King guy Shout out to Burger King When I'm done with a show
Starting point is 02:06:55 And there's nothing else open I'll go to Burger King I go You know what Get me two fucking Whoppers ketchup only Over Mickey D's Oh yeah
Starting point is 02:07:03 You know what With Wendy's Their beef is never frozen That's how they get you But they're in squares So I judge them I don't mind squares I worked at McDonald's
Starting point is 02:07:10 For three weeks When I was a 17 year old I bet you were terrible at it We'd drop the burgers And put them back on the grill We sold them Oh son of a bitch Hey man
Starting point is 02:07:20 You're ruining people's food It's fucked up When we were younger We did it by accident I didn't want to waste the food Whatever You know A good Italian sub You're ruining people's food It's fucked up When we were younger We did it by accident I didn't want to waste the food Whatever You know A good Italian sub
Starting point is 02:07:28 With like melted Parmesan cheese You talking about the Meatball sub from Subway Yeah I'm not a Subway guy Jared fucked it up for me bro I'll take the tuna
Starting point is 02:07:37 The tuna At Subway I'll fuck with that But not from Subway What are you talking about I'm talking about a real sub shop Oh like Blimpy's No
Starting point is 02:07:44 Like a good Italian deli Fuck, like Blimpy's? No, Quiznos? Like in Boston? Like a good Italian deli. Fuck. You like Quiznos? Come on, man. They toast their buns. No, no, no. They toast their buns.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Assembling a roll from a guy. You go to an Italian deli in Boston or New York where they have the hams hanging from the ceiling. Yeah, that's legit. That's the fun. Where the guy's a 90-year-old guy. Dude, you can get that at Bay Cities in Venice. Yes.
Starting point is 02:08:02 You ever been to Bay Cities? Incredible. You've got the fucking godmother. As good as it gets. Cavaretta's You ever been to Bay Cities? Incredible. It's got the fucking godmother. As good as it gets. Cavaretta's. Godmother will shit down your throat. It's delicious. Dude, Bay Cities is unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:08:11 There's some spots. Bay Cities is unbelievable. But why don't more people do that? When you go to a real Italian restaurant or a real Italian sub shop and you get sausage and peppers with tomato sauce. God damn, I'm hungry. It's so good. You're like, okay, why don't they figure out how to sell this more places?
Starting point is 02:08:26 I know, I know. Quality is expensive, bro. It is, but it's so goddamn good. You're like, okay, well, all these little cheeseburger spots, how come you can't have a sausage with peppers and onions? Hoboken, New Jersey in the 90s, all Italian. You'd go to those fucking delis. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:08:43 And they'd have the water mozzarella they're making in the 90s, all Italian. You'd go to those fucking delis. And they'd have the water mozzarella they're making in the back. They'd make the mozzarella and they'd put that shit on an Italian sub. Oh my, what? They're baking the bread right there. San Gennaro's Feast. That's in Little Italy. And they always have these big sausage
Starting point is 02:08:59 vendors. Just giant grill, sausages laid out. You're walking by And you get one And immediately You bite into it And it snaps Bite the sausage Snaps
Starting point is 02:09:09 And the juice Busts in your mouth And the juice Oh my god And the bread The bread has just got This density to it And you're like
Starting point is 02:09:16 Holy shit You guys ever fuck With the kitchen sink cookie What's that The kitchen sink cookie All ingredients Are in the cookie At Panera Bread You ever eat there Preach Dude they got a cookie Called the kitchen sink cookie. All ingredients are in the cookie. At Panera Bread.
Starting point is 02:09:25 You ever been there? Preach. Dude, they got a cookie called the kitchen sink. It's five bucks, dude. This is a good deal. I only usually fuck with chocolate chip cookies. I don't fuck with oatmeal or cinnamon cookie. It's got to be a good chocolate chip cookie.
Starting point is 02:09:37 Yeah, me too. Maybe some peanut butter in there. But kitchen sink has fucking everything, and it's addicting as fuck. But you got to be high, right? No, no, no, no. You know what? There was a Panera Bread next to Chipotle
Starting point is 02:09:47 so I go to Chipotle and go get the salad. No fucking, no burrito. I'm going with the salad so I eat clean. I eat clean at Chipotle and then the Panera Bread's
Starting point is 02:09:56 right next door and I'm like, should I just walk to my car and just get in and drive the fuck away or am I gonna go next door and fuck this all up and get a kitchen sink?
Starting point is 02:10:06 So I've always had this struggle I go to Chipotle and I'm eating like an Olympian at Chipotle and then I walk out and sometimes I get in my car and just fucking
Starting point is 02:10:12 burn rubber and I'm out but it's been a problem of mine but luckily luckily luckily I struggle with these things
Starting point is 02:10:20 I had seriously is that it I had a salad no that's not it I had a salad and I walked out and I was you know I was on the fence of whether I should get a kitchen sink, and I said, fuck it, I'm going to get it.
Starting point is 02:10:30 And I walked next door, and the place closed down. Probably for the best. I'm like, holy shit. Now what? Now totally. Paris is a legit paper. Totally. I feel good now.
Starting point is 02:10:37 Now I don't have a choice. What are you showing us, Jamie? These are the Rocks cheat meal cookies. Have you seen these? Who the fuck makes those? This is some special place in Hawaii just for them they're like
Starting point is 02:10:47 five cookies like a cookie inside a cookie what island is this on I don't know I'm there in February son in Samoa they should weigh like
Starting point is 02:10:53 six ounces Jesus Christ you're going to Samoa I'm going to one of the islands what are you doing out there comedy son damn
Starting point is 02:10:59 doing shows in Hawaii you're going to Samoa no I'm going to in Hawaii man one of the islands Oahu or some shit you don't even know where you're going no Samoa? No, I'm going to Hawaii, man. One of the islands. Oahu or some shit. You don't even know where you're going?
Starting point is 02:11:06 No. Samoa is nowhere near Hawaii. Tall house cookies. I think Samoa is closer to the Philippines or something, right? Is it? Like in the middle?
Starting point is 02:11:15 It's in the Pacific. Is it closer to Hawaii or closer to the Philippines? I think it's closer to Hawaii. I think it's like a thousand miles. It's pretty far. God, is anyone starving
Starting point is 02:11:24 after that talk? Yeah. I know a Mexican spot it's like a legit a Mexican spot not that one I threw up at right no no no remember that different one yeah that's a different story I kind of want to still hear Italian yeah we we hit the bong too hard yeah we got an empty stomach yeah when was this many many years ago more than more than 10 more than 10 yeah like 18 it was hot as fuck during the day empty stomach we're about to go eat get some burritos and he wanted to stop at a head shop and get a bong so he got a bong and all yet he and i was thirsty as fuck it was hot. We decided to hit the bomb before we went to the burrito place. And it was hot as fuck.
Starting point is 02:12:08 And all he had in the middle, he had a case of Red Bulls, right? Empty stomach. I took two because they were little. So I took two. It was hot. I was thirsty. Took a gigantic dragon head out of this bomb. We walked into that.
Starting point is 02:12:24 Caffeine and weed. Caffeine, weed walked into that. So you got caffeine and weed. Caffeine, weed, empty stomach. Empty stomach's the big one. That means a real bad experience. Oh, yeah. So we walk into the burrito shop, and we just choked it. Like, nobody was ever there. We'd walk in.
Starting point is 02:12:37 We were always the only people. So it was like, how the fuck are they making money? Are they, like, bringing food from home? You know what I mean? But anyways, the room started spinning. I felt like I was going to throw up, and I just walked out of that place and just, I needed to find a bush, and as soon as I walked off, like 20 yards,
Starting point is 02:12:53 I saw a bush, and I thought, I'm not going to make it, man. And I made a fucking beeline for the bush, but then I collapsed halfway through on my hands and knees, just puking all over the sidewalk, and I'm trying to drag myself, and then I p halfway through on my hands and knees, just puking all over the sidewalk. And I'm trying to drag myself. And then I puked here.
Starting point is 02:13:08 I took a couple more crawls, steps. I puked again three or four times. I finally got to the bush, had a couple more ounces for the bush. And then I felt great. After I threw up, I felt great. But, man, I left the crime scene all over there. Did you go back and eat? I went back in. i left the crime scene all over there go back and eat so i left i went back in i left the place he's freaking out he's like i gotta go outside
Starting point is 02:13:29 i gotta find a bush i'm gonna puke i'm like no way he goes outside and i wasn't sure like what do i do do i order the food do i help him do i wait so and then i i was like how serious is this and i went outside he's on his hands and knees pukes flying out of him he's crawling behind the corner to where these bushes were And he's hurling into the bushes Like this is ridiculous Yeah And we're barbecued
Starting point is 02:13:51 I mean so the whole thing Feels so surreal This isn't the same Mexican place You were just talking about No no different The other place They don't even speak English Dude I'm
Starting point is 02:13:58 It's in Woodland Hills They don't even speak English Woodland Hills I'm driving It's phenomenal I'm driving from Calabasas It's actually Canoga Park I'm driving from Calabasas. It's actually Canoga Park. I'm driving from Calabasas just down to the PCH.
Starting point is 02:14:07 And it's just a windy, you know, through Topanga Canyon. It's kind of windy. Well, I had Jimmy Burke in the car who doesn't drive in cars. He lives in New York City, so he is used to walking or riding his bike. He never drives in cars. So as we're going down, I'm just taking it for granted. I'm just zing, zing, zing, zing. Oh, you're freaking him out. And he goes like this.
Starting point is 02:14:25 We get to the bottom. He goes, Baba, you got to pull over right now. I go, why? He goes, I think I'm going to die. I go, what? What happened? He goes, you're swerving. He was on his hands and knees, and we waited there for 45 minutes because he couldn't get
Starting point is 02:14:38 back in the car. That's how fucked up. And threw up and just kept throwing up. Brian Callen, you ever think you drive like an asshole? No. What in the fuck? No, he just wasn't used to it. Jesus.
Starting point is 02:14:47 Or maybe I just hugged those turns. Or was he a... I get super sick if I'm on my phone in the car. Oh, you can't be on your phone when you're in the back? On my phone? You can't read books either. Don't ever try to read a book when you're in the car, man. It's your ears.
Starting point is 02:15:00 Yeah. I get so sick when I do that. Yeah, you have to... I have to put my phone down, turn it off. You have to concentrate on the horizon It'll slowly dissipate But just focus on the horizon I can read in that car I can read, I can fuck
Starting point is 02:15:13 What? Whoa, dude While you're driving or when someone else is driving? Well, the Tesla drives itself while Ryan gets sucked in the back Fuck I farted The idea that you would be Driving one of those cars I'm trying to pound you. I farted. The idea that you would be driving one of those cars and it runs out of batteries is what scares me the most.
Starting point is 02:15:32 I've had it happen. Where? It's a lie. It never happened. But I was on zero and I just made it into my driveway. I remember we were somewhere and you had to stop and charge it. We had to look up a charge place. And zero gets you how long? And it pissed me off. I've only like a couple miles on zero so you don't want to fuck
Starting point is 02:15:49 with it but i i that happened to me twice very recently where i pulled into my to sony and they plugged it and i was zero at zero but so it also takes forever it takes forever to fucking charge it fill up yeah that's a bummer. Four hours will get you. You need six hours to get 100%. For 100%? Really, seven hours. Wow. Yeah, depending.
Starting point is 02:16:11 If you're on the charger, if you're on the Tesla charger, you got an hour. The powerful one? You're in. In an hour? Yeah, even less. Can you get those at your crib? That's like, no. It's expensive?
Starting point is 02:16:21 It's insanely. I saw them at the movie theater the other day. Yeah. You can't get those What movie did you see We saw the The new Wreck-It Ralph Wreck-It Ralph
Starting point is 02:16:29 Oh is it good Yes It's very good I'm gonna take my kid out tomorrow It's weird though Sarah Silverman's the voice Of this little girl She's great in it
Starting point is 02:16:35 So obviously Sarah Silverman She's great in it Yeah But it's so obviously her To me I'm like oh hey Sarah I liked her one hour I saw half of it anyway
Starting point is 02:16:42 I really liked it She's funny as shit man She's a fucking good comic man I've seen her murder She's a murderer She's a fucking good comic I've seen her murder She's a murderer She's such a good comic Murder at the store One of the best
Starting point is 02:16:49 Such a good comic Sarah Silverman One of the best Very very good comic Yep I think maybe the best Best female comic Female
Starting point is 02:16:55 That's what I mean yeah Dude Trevor Noah's special On Netflix is funny as fuck Is it It's really funny I heard mixed reviews Really Yeah since you said that
Starting point is 02:17:03 But I mean you know It's all subjective You made me laugh Yeah It's all subjective You have a purple car Brian judges you It's really funny. I heard mixed reviews. Really? Yeah, since you said that. But I mean, it's all subjective. You made me laugh. Yeah, it's all subjective. You have a purple car. Brian judges you. It's true. Maybe we don't like the same humor.
Starting point is 02:17:11 No, I do. What is it that infuriates you, the purple car? It's just like- Too peacocky? He's just not your style at all. No, no, no. He's not peacocky. It's just like, the way he dresses, he just, I know what he's going to do.
Starting point is 02:17:22 I know that that one Porsche wasn't enough. And he's like, and I'll get a picture. He'll just send me a random picture. And I'm like, don't you fucking do it. Of course he needs the purple. Do you think if you got rid of this Tesla, and I know you want to have a car that has a backseat where you can take your kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:38 And you drove a 911. I've driven one. When was the last time? When? I drove Arnold Schwarzenegger's 911 Porsche Turbo. When was that? Because he put it up for sale, and my friend was selling it, and he said, I've got a surprise for you.
Starting point is 02:17:50 In 88 or some shit? No, it was like in 2000s. 2000s. It's a great car, but the problem is it's just a lot of... I think it was a stick. You know, in traffic and shit, I'm just too lazy. I'm not a driver. Well, first of all, you have to order a stick. Most of them don't come with sticks. Yeah, this had a special interior like it was beautiful car yeah what i'm saying is if you drove one if you drove like a 911 an automatic one amazing huh
Starting point is 02:18:15 you would love it i'm sure yeah but then again i really love that tesla i i think my lease is up so the question is do i get a panamera what What do I get? When's the lease up? March, but I can trade it in already. Well, you know, there's benefits to both, right? There's benefits to the electric thing. It's pretty dope. It's fast as shit. Off the line, there's no gears, right? So it's just like there's no shifting.
Starting point is 02:18:38 You don't care about speed, though, right? I like pickup. I like pickup. And I like the fact that it parks itself, and I like the fact that it drives itself in shitty traffic. If I'm in traffic, I'll go like pickup. I like pickup. And I like the fact that it parks itself, and I like the fact that it drives itself in shitty traffic. If I'm in traffic, I'll go like that. I hit this thing, and I just stand, and it just drives in bumper to bumper,
Starting point is 02:18:51 and I never have to touch the wheel or the pedals. Some people die with that. Yeah, I hear you. No, but you're going slow. You know that stop and start? That's tiring. It's annoying. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:59 Have your hand on the wheel a little bit lightly, and just you can read a book. I don't know about that. Just drive the goddamn car, man. Once you have cars driving for you it's the future what the fuck it's but we're all going to be doing hell no eventually well our kids aren't going to get drivers kids aren't well now now driver license are way down kids aren't there's like we ubers why would we drive you old fuck literally yeah really uber everywhere yeah driver license getting driver's licenses they just uber Uber They just Uber It's so easy
Starting point is 02:19:25 Which is a little dangerous Because those Uber drivers Are weird as fuck But we're going to have Driverless Ubers And then we're just going to get in No way Oh yeah
Starting point is 02:19:32 You're going to let a car Drive itself Like on a freeway Eventually On the freeway Eventually This new Tesla Has so many cameras
Starting point is 02:19:38 Like it just parked for me Like the download I went My buddy goes Do you know how this works My buddy Jeff And I go no And he goes
Starting point is 02:19:45 watch this and i pushed this park i stood there it parked it parallel parked so fast and well so much better i didn't have to do i sat there and it just went i was like it made me feel like less of a man but you get lazy no it's just easy after a while that's ridiculous hit a button that so sounds like what people probably said when the printing press came out. I know. You're not going to write your words? You're not going to get a parchment paper? It's different.
Starting point is 02:20:11 I'm talking about safety. Fuck that. No, no. I'm not talking about pride or anything like that. I'm talking about you're going to be driving on the freeway 65 miles an hour. Eventually, it's going to get so good. No, I don't. That would make me nervous.
Starting point is 02:20:24 Eventually. That makes me nervous. Way more than other people. There's so so good. You're going to trust that shit? No, I don't. That would make me nervous. Eventually. Fuck no. That makes me nervous. Way more than other people. There's so many accidents. You know how many dumbasses there are? How many people are reading their phone? I watched some lady the other day.
Starting point is 02:20:32 I'm not worried about someone else. I'm worried about the car that I'm in. Reading her phone. The car that I'm in. Because she didn't know traffic was going? She's in the middle lane. Yeah. Middle lane.
Starting point is 02:20:38 Just stopped dead. A woman I work with, her mother was killed by a distracted driver texting. Texting and driving. Killed. Killed her mother. They say it's going to take over drunk driving and everything. Texting and driving is going to be number one problem. Every time I see someone driving fucked up, I always pull up next to them and they're always on their phone.
Starting point is 02:20:53 Always. It's like 89, 90% of the time. It's not good. The other is just people just distracted. They should make it so that your phone doesn't work while you're driving. Right. Your phone shuts off when you drive. There's an option in the new iPhones.
Starting point is 02:21:06 There's an option that locks you out of everything. Yeah, when you take those. I'm driving right now. I will give you a text back. Yeah. But I mean, one of these days it might be mandatory, right? It should be. You cannot be on your phone while you're driving.
Starting point is 02:21:20 Unfortunately, it might take a tragedy. That is a law. That is a law. Yeah. You can only have hands-free phones. If you have a good hands-free system, you can do a lot of shit. Like, I can press the little button on my steering wheel
Starting point is 02:21:32 and say, call Eddie Bravo, and it'll call you. You could also say, text Eddie Bravo. You can say, text. You can read. It'll re-text to you. It'll re-text to you if you have Apple CarPlay. Yep. But then the problem is, if you start getting pictures.
Starting point is 02:21:42 What do you mean, re-text? What does that mean? Read. Oh, it'll read text. Yeah, it'll read your problem is if you start getting re-text. What does that mean? Read. Oh, it'll read text. Yeah. It'll read your text. It'll read your text. Nobody says
Starting point is 02:21:49 Brian County said dick pic. Yeah. Yeah. Would you like to reply? No. Okay. It's kind of cool.
Starting point is 02:21:57 It's kind of weird though. It's, it's, they're going to have something. This is whatever this is. This is going to be nothing compared to whatever they settle on 10 years from now fuck are we getting flying cars that's never gonna take its form remember your joke about it your bitch i haven't heard it it's great is that on
Starting point is 02:22:14 your new no 2006 five no like 2001 or two no but it was old but it didn't get on something. Oh, okay. I went from 99 to 2005. There was a long gap where I didn't film anything. That's where that bit's from. 99 to 2005? Yeah. A lot of special? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:35 Why'd you do that? Too busy. That was the fear factor. Oh, gotcha. You weren't grinding with comedy, so you didn't want to put on a special. No. Jet packs, remember?
Starting point is 02:22:42 Where are jet packs? We were supposed to have those. I was doing a lot of spots at the store 30 years ago traveling remember remember on chips on chips like 1978 1980 that that um jetpacks back then and we still haven't mastered it but they're getting pretty good though i have seen some videos yes i have seen some videos. Yes. I have seen some. Like Rocketeer? Yeah. They're getting better now. I saw a guy in the NFL invest half of his salary into flying cars. This was in 2003. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:13 He's not doing well. Oh, God. It didn't work out. Flying cars. Jesus Christ. Yeah. That's not going to happen. Imagine putting all your money.
Starting point is 02:23:21 Like, I'm going to get ahead of the curve. Oh. Too much shit works. Just banking on something like that, getting off the ground, getting approved, getting licensed, not dropping out of the sky and killing infrastructure. In 1980, we didn't think in 2018 we'd still have cars with rubber tires with engines. They're basically the same thing. It's just they look nicer. Some countries are making gas cars illegal by 2020.
Starting point is 02:23:46 Well, the craziest thing is- are you serious yeah no they're not going to release the sale of gas cars yeah they're making illegal whoa what about retro cars like are you allowed to keep your car from like 1980 i'm not sure china china in one year decided that uh their air was terrible and in one year they basically said that you're going to use natural gas instead of coal and stuff like that in your home. And I think that was what it was. But China has the advantage of just going, hey, all you billion-plus people, no more. And they changed it in a fucking year. They just literally just changed the infrastructure.
Starting point is 02:24:19 So they'll be the first ones to have nothing but electric. Yeah, they'll have electric cars. Is this all of China? Yeah, look that up. Don't they still have coal plants and shit well they do but but people were using uh things like coal and gas or a fuel to um cook their food to uh heat their homes and and basically the president said nah natural gas clean burning gas no more. Changed it in a year. The air is a lot better because the air was pretty bad, but they said the air was the worst in Beijing. One thing about what you see in Beijing is nothing but unfinished buildings. They'll build 20 of the same exact looking building in one area.
Starting point is 02:24:59 And it's so ugly, these giant buildings. And that's the landscape. And they're empty or just cranes, and they're not working. Why? They overbuilt a lot. Why'd they do that? They have ghost cities.
Starting point is 02:25:10 They have huge cities where nobody lives in them, because they were essentially saying, let's just build as many cities as we can, but they didn't have the population to move them in, or the economy to support that city. It's like North Korea, too, right? They have a bunch of empty cities. Well, it's also how they created jobs. Is that that uh also do you think a product of communism versus capitalism because capitalism they would have had to have some sort of financial plan yes and it's a command it's a command economy right so so why not just create jobs create jobs if everybody's working
Starting point is 02:25:40 just build a bunch of buildings whoa nobody has to in them, but just as long as we got people going in. Downtown LA is kind of like that. They're building new skyscrapers all the goddamn time, 24-7. Yeah, but they're selling the shit out of them. That's the difference between- The marketplace dictates. You have developers that take huge risk, and they say, I'm going to build this in the hopes that I can fill that retail space, office space.
Starting point is 02:26:04 China, there's not the same pressures yeah you know china's an economy of influence too a lot of times you're not doing business unless you've got you know connections with the people that okay your permits etc i mean fuck it's so lucky we don't live in a dictatorship like that like if you're stuck under the boot of something like north korea you're stuck under the boot of something like north korea you're stuck under the and we just could could have got a shit roll of the dice of course born in there i think about it all the time especially because i lived in those countries as a kid right you you we take a lot of our freedoms for granted but at the same time they're always under
Starting point is 02:26:40 threat yeah i think from from companies like the fact that so much information is concentrated in so few companies, like Facebook, like Google. I worry about the consolidation of power. Yes, they have political agendas. That's the real issue. The real issue is that they lean politically. But they almost should be completely neutral and just allow or not allow things based on whether or not it violates their rules but that's not really the case no and also the way the way campaign finance works like the
Starting point is 02:27:13 way you have to have money it's changing a little but if you don't have money as a politician you better say what your finance the people that are financing your campaign they'll tell you they'll give you a sheet on what to say if you don't do that you're not in congress the next what you're financing. The people that are financing your campaign, they'll tell you. They'll give you a sheet on what to say. If you don't do that, you're not in Congress the next time you're around. You have to listen to the people that put you there. And that's a problem. It costs a lot of money to get elected. You've got to have very clear rules.
Starting point is 02:27:49 If you're going to have rules in terms of what what you can and can't say they have to apply to everyone regardless of race or regardless of gender ethnicity and they don't right like one of the things that Brett Weinstein tweeted the other day that I retweeted was some woman who wrote all white people are racist and she just went on this this anti white screed like you just can't say that that's dumb right it's a dumb generalization, and it's racist. Right. And you don't think it's racist because it's racist against white people, but it's racist. Right. It's so stupid that you allow that, but you don't allow racism against other races.
Starting point is 02:28:15 Well, what's funny is that they're thinking the same way. Their methodology is the same as the people they're criticizing. Yeah. So it's always cracking up. It's racist. It's not what you think. It's how you think that makes more of a difference, right? So you're thinking like a racist.
Starting point is 02:28:28 I know that you have a different kind of racism, but it's still racist. Well, they think it's justified in their shitty way of doing the math. It's not. Yeah, it's not.
Starting point is 02:28:37 They're not that smart. That's the other thing. Is that what I noticed about ideologues? Barely. It's been sitting there for three hours. It's coughing.
Starting point is 02:28:44 But the way you get elected and stay elected is you tow the... Like, if you want to have sort of anti-Wall Street legislation, certain things. So swipe fees. Swipe fees on your ATM.
Starting point is 02:28:58 That's a huge issue. And it doesn't affect a lot of us, but it affects a corporation that's a bank's bottom line. And that becomes... You better vote favorably or you're going to have a problem. But I think more and more Americans are realizing that money in politics is a big problem. It is. How the fuck would you ever get it out?
Starting point is 02:29:17 I don't know. It's always been that way. The question is, does your government represent you? Right. Right. So gerrymandering and how campaigns are financed drives me nuts how quiet eddie is during all this i'm thinking about distinguished gentlemen remember eddie murphy when he when he became a politician i don't remember that one
Starting point is 02:29:35 old school man did i see that one i might not have said that might be the one that i've never saw he wanted to be a politician because he found out the damn that that's that's where you make the money yeah so he well you made money later just like you know just taking bribes and all that shit but then he gets a conscience then he does the right thing at the end but a congressman spends a u.s congressman spends between 30 and 70 percent of his time or her time on the phone to people they don't know trying to raise money okay so and you're not allowed to do that on government property so what you do is you go across the street. You're sitting in your car. You can go across the street in the capital.
Starting point is 02:30:07 They're in their car, and they're making phone calls. They're giving a list. And you make a phone call, and you spend 30% to 70% of your time doing that to raise money. There's something wrong with that. That's kind of fucked up. Whenever I hear people talk too much about politics, even myself included, my own words, I'm like, you're talking about a rigged game. It's like you're talking about pro wrestling.
Starting point is 02:30:29 It's like you're talking about something that's, you're pretending that it's real. But you know, of course the government is corrupt as fuck. But when you're talking about stuff like that, like are the elections rigged? Do our votes count? The one thing that I learned from these midterms is that if your vote didn't count and it's all decided like pro wrestling, then there wouldn't be all this voter fraud and all these computers that can, you know. But voter fraud is not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about voting.
Starting point is 02:31:03 I'm talking about the way once you're in office, the way things get handled. I get it. I get it. But what I'm saying is, from the elections, you see that your votes do matter. There's a lot of corruption and fraud going on. But if it was all rigged like WWE, they wouldn't need to do all that. They were like, you still got to vote. So it's still the real system. Because a so it's still it's still the real system
Starting point is 02:31:27 right because a lot of people think it's not a real system like it doesn't matter they already decide and they're just going to put them in no the way they they actually decide is is they decide who they're going to rig the machines for yes but the votes still count you just got to make sure that there's no uh you know shenanigans going on. The votes most certainly do count, but where it gets really squirrely, and this is where politics get goofy, is in why do politicians do what they do? Do they do what they do to support the people, or do they do what they do
Starting point is 02:31:54 because special interest groups have influenced them? Yeah, they get, you know, there's way more of that. Well, not only that, here's what's really wild. So Capitol Hill, when you're in Congress, they call that the farm team, because in Capitol Hill, you spend six years, seven years, let's just say you're a senator. Now, when you're a senator for, I don't know, 10 years, when you're on Capitol Hill for as a congressman for six for 10 years, you develop real connections and relationships with government officials who make decisions.
Starting point is 02:32:24 make decisions. You also understand how government works. You understand who's actually influencing who. So now what do you do? So let's say you lose an election or let's say you decide, I made my 160 grand a year, can't really live on that money. You go to K Street, you join a lobbying firm. And because you've been there for six or nine or 10 years, you know a lot of people. And that lobbying firm goes hey we'll pay a million dollars now and all you got to do is drive to capitol hill every day get in there and influence use your connections so that we we can get what we want from government so corporations hiring lobbying firms to lobby for their bottom line. So now you're working to influence government. And the problem is when you're in Congress, you know that.
Starting point is 02:33:09 You know you have a job waiting if you can make great connections. And now Washington becomes an economy of influence. That's the game, right? Yes. I'm fucking, you got to have Lawrence Lessig on your goddamn podcast. He can explain. He's a Harvard professor. That motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:33:23 You keep telling me about the podcast you did with him. He'll it down i did yeah listen to that i'll say i sent it to you i think it's lawrence lessig he's he's he breaks it down he wrote a book called republic lost and he's got a couple ted talks but that dude takes work yes and basically he said your government doesn't represent you and here's why here's how it works when he breaks it down you go how it works. When he breaks it down, you go, it's simple the way he breaks it down because he's a constitutional scholar out of Harvard, but you're like,
Starting point is 02:33:50 fuck! And what he said was fascinating. He said, Washington's a place where even if you're a good person, you must behave in a corrupt manner if you want to survive. And that's when you have problems.
Starting point is 02:34:01 When good people have to behave corruptly. Yeah, the bright side of all that The bright side of all that Is The fact that there Is like People getting suicided And bribery going on
Starting point is 02:34:13 That means that there's hope That there's good people Inside the government That you gotta watch You gotta watch your ass Or you know We gotta hire someone To kill you
Starting point is 02:34:22 Because we don't want To go to jail So the fact that All that's done out of fear. They can just get you out. Yeah, it depends on what it is. What I'm saying is the fact that there is all that bribery and suiciding, that means that there's good people in there that are going after the bad people. To me, I look at the bright side.
Starting point is 02:34:41 I used to think there was no hope. I used to think, fuck it. To me, I look at the bright side. I used to think there was no hope. I used to think, fuck, like when the Bushes were in office, Clinton, Obama, I was like, I didn't pay attention to shit. I just said, they're all corrupt. It's all rigged. And it's all, you know, there's nothing you could do about it.
Starting point is 02:35:01 But, you know, over the last couple years, you know, since Trump got into office, now I'm like paying attention. Like there are some good people trying to do some good shit. Like Trey Gdy listen to that motherfucker trey gowdy's a bad motherfucker what are you talking about gates no politicians these people the congressman oh man there are some great people going after the bad people that's why there needs to be bribes and suiciding and blackmail the reason there's blackmail is because there's good people in there if everybody was bad they would why would you blackmail anybody well the problem is it's really subtle the way they can get you out though because when your donors are telling you which way to vote you're you as a politician go in there with all your ideas and you can't vote your conscience yeah there's a lot
Starting point is 02:35:35 of bad shit there's a lot of bad shit you gotta vote for the money you're preaching to the choir over here i'm not you know i'm not gonna defend so you fix that so so lawrence lessig has one of the ideas he talks about is anonymous donations so so watch you're a politician right i'm a corporation right i give your uh or and i threw a super pack or whatever it might be i give your campaign a lot of money now you're a regular dude you're not corrupt but human beings when somebody gives them a real hand when they needed it you can't help but to feel a little indebted. Of course. What if all – what if there are two ideas?
Starting point is 02:36:11 What if you had a voucher system where all of us were given a certain amount of money every election cycle, and we were allowed anonymously to give that money to whoever we thought was a viable candidate? It'd be anonymous. Or what if all donations were anonymous what if you didn't if you couldn't say who it was from but if you know you got a lot of stuff from ge or you know you got a lot of stuff from lockheed and there's a bill that comes up for saudi arabia to buy a bunch of tanks or whatever or weaponry it's going to be very hard for you to vote against that and if you do those people that got you in power last time aren't going to get you in power the next time.
Starting point is 02:36:47 They basically figured out a way to make bribing legal. They just give you stuff and hook you up and take care of you and add money to your campaign, but then don't exactly tell you what to do. But you know what the fuck's going on. The book to read is Republic Lost. That's a fucking good book. Is it on audio? Yes, it's amazing.
Starting point is 02:37:02 And get Lawrence Lessig on your goddamn podcast. He'll break it down. All right, let's do it. I need you to relax a little. I get excited about it. Because when you say campaign finance reform is so boring, right? Right. The minute I hear that, I go like this. I've read a book, two books on it, and I'm like, oh, I get bored.
Starting point is 02:37:15 I get tired right away. But it's so important. They've got to figure out some way to stop these giant corporations from influencing politicians. They've got to find some way it's got to become illegal there is they're influencing everybody there's money tv shows and everybody there's money to be made no matter what yeah the idea is that they want so much so that anything that threatens that money the real true marketplace they want they want to put the fucking brakes to that but you're supposed to have. It's supposed to cancel each other out, though.
Starting point is 02:37:46 So ideally, there's nothing wrong with petitioning your government. That's in the Constitution. So you can lobby your government. It's called petitioning your government. You're allowed to. The problem is not that donating money to your campaign. But isn't lobbying illegal in some countries? Probably.
Starting point is 02:38:02 The problem with lobbying, so Citizens United... But what countries would they be illegal in? I think maybe Holland. countries uh probably the problem with lobbying so citizens united wouldn't if we made lobbying i think maybe uh holland i think i think lobbying because that's what uh but lobbying the problem with making lobbying illegal is it's part of free speech that's what it was ruled in the supreme court so citizens united so in other words if i want to give money to you you're a politician and and i want i want eddie bravo to be president right i should be able to exercise my right as a citizen and support you which means you want so i want to amplify your voice that means you need money so to tell me i can't give
Starting point is 02:38:36 money to the person i like is a restriction of free speech and that i think is that i think that was the citizens united supreme court you know there's another problem the other problem is when subjects like this get brought up and and this is one of the most important subjects that we could ever discuss, like how our world gets run. Yes. I get bored as fuck. I know. You get bored as fuck.
Starting point is 02:38:54 He turns out to be a zombie. I've been staring at the wall for the last 30 minutes. Isn't it funny? I understand. I get it. You don't want to have to deal with it. It's just not my cup of tea. You don't want to have to deal with it.
Starting point is 02:39:02 But it affects all of us deeply. You want to be like these North Sentinel people. I feel like there's nothing we can do about it. I'm like, dude, I've never been so into politics ever. I'm fucking balls deep in it. I love it. It's like Game of Thrones, but it's for real and it affects your life. It does affect your life.
Starting point is 02:39:16 It's real shit. There's real Game of Thrones going on right now, and it's so entertaining to find out what the fuck. Instead of watching a goddamn TV show that does nothing for your life, it's like Game of Thrones really going on right now if you pay attention. Yeah, but they're on season 111. I watch TV shows so that I could just have fun. Yeah, I'm not saying don't do that.
Starting point is 02:39:37 I'm not saying don't do that. But I don't. You can do both. Those things freak me the fuck out. And you can do both. You can do both. But if you really start paying attention too much to politics, and I have a bunch of friends that are really into politics. Especially right now.
Starting point is 02:39:49 And they can talk to you about it. You just should. But let me ask all of you this. So as far as like not standing out of politics or whatever, what if, this is where it comes down to, we all have kids here. So now there is a legislative agenda, whatever it might be, and it's an agenda that says we want to teach your kids something like, let's just say because the social scientists and academia wins their way, gets into the ear of politicians, which happens all the time, and politicians say all schools, public schools at least, where my kids go, are going to teach that there's a zero biological difference or zero difference between men and women. Oh, and by the way, ready? Evolution is a theory, and we're going to put it on the same standings as creationist theory, too.
Starting point is 02:40:33 That's going to be on the curriculum? I.e. School Board in Kansas, I think at one point, had that going on. So wait a minute. My kid's going private. Are you saying the same people that say there's no biological basis? I'm just saying what happens if you stay out of this debate and the wrong people win, they push their ideas forward,
Starting point is 02:40:51 which usually have a political agenda. You might be faced with a situation where somebody's trying to educate your kid in things that you not only disagree with but are factually incorrect. So this happens. This is where it starts getting personal. it can get real weird like there was this thing from nature the other day that uh i retweeted because brett weinstein uh weinstein had uh brought it up and he was like this is really disturbing that these people are making this distinction it was talking about the difference between biological sex and uh and real there's i don't want to misquote it so i'll find out the exact thing but they're essentially promoting social justice principles over scientific principles
Starting point is 02:41:38 and it's supposed to be a company that specializes in science. So instead of just being scientific, they're scientific with a very clear progressive political twist to it. And you're like, well, just because something's inconvenient doesn't mean it's incorrect. Just because something's uncomfortable doesn't mean it's not true. And there's things that you might have your own personal beliefs and values and ethics, but that's not what we're counting on when you're a science journal.
Starting point is 02:42:05 We're counting on just facts. That's it. And they're not doing that. Did you see the, I think I sent you this YouTube thing? To say this proposal has no foundation in science is nonsense. The genitals. So this is what it is. Like, go to the, pull up the nature one first so I can read that.
Starting point is 02:42:20 Nature won first. I can read that. The U.S. editorial, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services proposes to establish a legal definition of whether someone is male or female based on the genitals they are born with. This proposal has no foundation in science and should be abandoned. And this is the journal Nature. So the problem with that is what Brett Weinstein very succinctly says. To say, in quotes, this proposal has no foundation in science which is what they said he says is nonsense right the genitals one one is born with show overwhelming correlation with one's self-assessed gender as predicted by evolutionary
Starting point is 02:42:58 theory if we grant nature's claim we condemn the study of complex phenomena to a dark age there you go that's a classic fucking example and nature should know better but they have a political agenda where'd that come from they were influenced by strong forces probably on the radical left in this in this instance there are other forces on the other side that's where the wind is going and if you support that you get way more love than you get hate right there's currency to it you lick your finger you find out where the wind's going like to say that there's no correlation is fucking And if you support that, you get way more love than you get hate. There's currency to it. You lick your finger. You find out where the wind's going. To say that there's no correlation is fucking bananas.
Starting point is 02:43:30 We're all men. And that's controversial, by the way. It's controversial to say it. Well, there's a lot of nonsense going on right now that I think will eventually be sorted out once the dust settles. But I think this is just a wave of information. It goes left. It goes right. Everybody's battling it out and because people are more concerned with their side winning than they are with actual facts right a
Starting point is 02:43:49 lot of really stupid ideas get supported and instead of objectively analyzed for whether or not they contain truth there's pushback with kids though so my buddy my buddy's son is 15 and he was they like it's all about gender and and you, you know, educating you on gender and high school people choose their pronouns. So when you're in college, my nephew who was in college with 18 years old, they said, say your name and, and please tell us what pronoun you would like to be referred to class.
Starting point is 02:44:16 Yes. Right. First, first day orientation. What school is this? So, so now the kids, now the kids,
Starting point is 02:44:21 now the kids though, as they're being taught this by their fucking teachers, cause they're kids. They're like the fuck out of here. So my friend goes, look, as they're being taught this by their fucking teachers, because they're kids, they're like, the fuck out of here. So my friend goes, look at that. Look at that butterfly. Isn't he beautiful? And his son goes, dad, do you have any idea how hurtful it is to that butterfly? You have no idea what that butterfly's gender is.
Starting point is 02:44:39 And they're all fucking around now. So there's pushback on that shit. You can't get too crazy. Well, I would hope there's some pushback but there's also some really easily No, there's some really
Starting point is 02:44:49 influenced people, easily influenced people that are adopting all this stuff. Of course. Way more so than it was when we were growing up. Of course.
Starting point is 02:44:54 So even if there's pushback. Indoctrination is the right word too. Yes. You could get kids to believe in anything. I used some, MKUltra and my son too. I said,
Starting point is 02:45:04 you know what, I'm going to make him a Cleveland Browns fan. We flew to Cleveland, watched a Cleveland Browns, and all he wanted was a Baker Mayfield jersey. He wants to be like Dad, though. And I'm like, fucking work. He wants to be like Dad.
Starting point is 02:45:14 But that's what happens. Yeah, but that's what happens. He got into Cleveland Browns on one trip. He's all for it. It's hard, though, to keep a theory going that doesn't really have any basis in science. At the end of the day, it's kind of banked. It's going to fizzle out over time. And I don't think they're very smart.
Starting point is 02:45:30 I think they're political, and I don't think they're very smart. I don't think their scholarship is deep. Men, women, people born as men but think they're women, people born as women think they're men, people that think they're both, that's five. It's very rare. And then what else? They said there's like 60 of them or something. 78 different gender pronouns, but that's because no one has agreed on what the gender pronoun
Starting point is 02:45:51 should be. So if you decide that yours is Z-I-R, and I said, no, mine is Z-Y-R-E. I need someone to explain all this. It's an obsession. What a waste of time. They're people that want to be special. This is a big part of what everybody wants. You got to go to school to find out if you're a guy?
Starting point is 02:46:10 Come on. You got to take courses? I know you think you're a guy. I know you think you're a guy, but we're going to find out for sure in six months. You know what Sam Harris said that I fucking loved? He said, right now, the one thing to keep in mind is that being offended is not an argument and it's not a virtue so you can't just shut the conversation down because you're offended and you're taking issue with what i say that ain't an argument and it sure as fuck ain't a virtue but that's what's
Starting point is 02:46:39 going on when what's her name heather mcdonald's that her name she was speaking at uh she was speaking at a college and there was a law student he was just giving her the finger the whole time and all she was trying to do is talk about you know something that was based in science and heather mcdonald uh what's her name comic no she's a she's a professor a journalist a professor of journalism i think and uh she's a very reasonable kind of like clear. It doesn't matter, man. People are struggling so hard to find things to be offended at that they're pointing at targets that aren't viable. And they're throwing all their weight into it. And when it doesn't work, they back out and they try someone new. That's right.
Starting point is 02:47:15 You know, Christina Hoff Summers. You ever see the things that she did where she was trying to speak and they were shouting her down and making all this noise in the crowd. They're trying to boo her off the stage. They're trying to silence people because it's something that you can do. You can get it done. Because they're afraid of their ideas. They don't think their ideas can compete. It's a game, man.
Starting point is 02:47:33 It's a game. Something to do. They're on one side. She's on the other. They wrote for the Browns. She's with the Raiders. That's what it is, man. That's right.
Starting point is 02:47:40 Teams. It's 100% what it is. What are your feelings on the caravan situation? What do you guys think about that? Why is it any different from all the people that are getting in here every day? It's a fake thing we're supposed to be paying attention to. What exactly happened with the caravan? They're making a big publicity event out of these people that want to come to America.
Starting point is 02:47:59 They're all coming together. They want asylum. They came from Guatemala. They came from Honduras. So MS-13 and this other gang are the biggest employers there. If you don't join them, you get your family killed. Nice guys. And I think that these people are desperate.
Starting point is 02:48:11 They're essentially refugees from a place that's intolerable to live. But they're making it this really big political deal. It's very publicized. Totally. And apparently they're not always walking. Sometimes they get in the vans and people drive in places. You're saying that we shouldn't let them in? I don't know what you're saying. I'm not saying that we shouldn't let them in or we should let them in. This is what I'm saying. and apparently they're not always walking sometimes they get in the vans and people drive in places and they get out and start walking again I'm not saying that we shouldn't let them in
Starting point is 02:48:28 or we should let them in, this is what I'm saying what's the issue? people don't want them in, they're illegal immigrants but what's interesting to me is if you come from Cuba, you can just come if you get on a boat if you get over here in America we're like, you made it bro, come on in
Starting point is 02:48:43 but if you try from Guatemala, we're like, no, sorry son, Ronald Patchett, dirt. Find another country. Don't take our food stamps. Because of MS-13, right? Because of that, it's really bad. But they have horrible murders in New York. We just made an agreement that anybody who's
Starting point is 02:49:00 trying to escape the kind of shitty situation they have in Cuba will allow that. Oh, I got you. I got you. Will allow that. But if you're from Colombia. Yeah, I mean, if you're Yoel Romero and you come over from Cuba. Yes.
Starting point is 02:49:11 That's true. Because you're a communist country. We'll take you. And people think that all Mexicans are for the caravan and we want them in. No. That's not true. No. Most Mexicans are like, hey.
Starting point is 02:49:22 Immigration is complicated. Find another country. You ain't getting our welfare. You know what I mean? Mexicans are like, hey, you know what? Immigration is complicated. Find another country. You ain't getting our welfare. You know what I mean? Mexicans ain't down for that caravan. They want them turned away, too. It's a complicated emotional issue, man. It's like I always do this joke where I believe in borders, but I'd be a shitty border control agent, right?
Starting point is 02:49:38 Like, I do think borders are reasonable, but nobody gets over it. And then I'd be like, oh, the kids. Fuck it. Come on. Nobody's looking. I think Americans feel that way. It's know it's a it's a hard do you live in a gated community no okay i mean yes all right no it is a it's like the idea that there's a real country that there's a place where you can go in a place where you can't go and like you have
Starting point is 02:49:59 to have papers and they make make across this line the dirt like they've set up fences and borders well the service industry needs that labor. The only reason that exists, right? I mean, if you think about the United States, right? The United States essentially is not just a country. It's a collection of different areas, right? And each different area has its own culture, almost their own language.
Starting point is 02:50:19 You know, the way they talk in Florida is way fucking different than the way they talk in Maine. It's really weird. It's all the same language, but it's almost like they're separate little countries. And we travel amongst each other, no problem. And you're allowed to. You're allowed to bail out.
Starting point is 02:50:32 I'm going to try to Vegas for a while. I'm going to get me a job at a casino. Nobody cares. Like, you're fine as long as you're on this one patch of dirt. But the reason why we don't allow all the other patches of dirt to do the same thing and everybody just flow freely is because there's some spots that just don't have it good at all. And we want those people to stay there. Although.
Starting point is 02:50:52 Like you haven't. Although. Your spot you haven't fixed. You know what the connective. You haven't fixed your spot. But you know what the connective tissue is for Americans? Besides. Even though that's true.
Starting point is 02:51:00 The connective tissue that I think a lot of countries don't have is that the one thing we have going for, even if it's a myth for a lot of people. Freedom. The one thing all Americans have going for them is the idea that there's a chance if I do the right thing, I may be poor now. Oh, American dream. But I could be a fucking millionaire. Oh, yeah, for sure. That shit is so, but that's what keeps the sort of people who have nothing
Starting point is 02:51:26 from creating a revolution yeah but if we lose that if we if you start thinking that's not for them like you can't let everybody in
Starting point is 02:51:33 right but you can let everybody in from Kentucky if everybody from Kentucky decided to move to LA we would just have to deal with it it's America
Starting point is 02:51:40 they got citizenship that's what I'm saying like it's odd the reason why we can't have world citizenship is because some places suck too hard. You don't want nationalism? I'm not saying that it's good or bad.
Starting point is 02:51:52 I'm just looking at it as a thing right now. If I had to say, do I like it? Honestly, I think the whole world as the human beings as a race would be way better off if everybody could move where it's good. And then we would figure out why there's too many people where it's good and then it'll settle down and you move to a better spot and then eventually even out yeah
Starting point is 02:52:09 you know the reason why never happened but you never even the reason why I got in segregated areas don't advance like these people in Sentinel Island so kind of a fucked up example say in silent they're not going anywhere like this is they're wearing leaves over their dicks. Right. But they like that shit. But do they? But Joe, the European
Starting point is 02:52:29 Union is that. You and I would, by the way, you and I are morons. If we were living on that island, we would be having leaves over our dick too.
Starting point is 02:52:35 It's not like, oh, I'm just going to invent a satellite. These fucking morons. We don't know how to do any of that stuff. So we would be with them just with a
Starting point is 02:52:42 greater understanding of what's possible for the people around. But what you just said is happening in the European Union. That's why a lot of Polish people come over to the UK and they come back. And there's also what they're doing now with immigration is freaking a lot of
Starting point is 02:52:56 people out because they're allowing so many people of different cultures to come in and then their cities become more multicultural than they are English and then it gets real weird. But the other problem is that when you have one currency, currencies used to be based on the productivity of their citizenry, right? So when you have currency, everybody has the same currency,
Starting point is 02:53:14 which means it's all valued at the same thing. The problem is that people in Spain are not as productive as people in Germany, for example. So the German goods and services should be worth more or the dollar there that the euro there should be worth more than it is say in you know spain isn't it better when the state has more power than the than the fed well it's like countries is that better that's basically what because the argument is is we're like a band of countries like california is a country but isn't that better though when isn't it better for the people when the state has so then that would mean you know at the same rate you know it's better to have a country. Nevada is a country. But isn't that better, though? Isn't that better for the people when the state has... It's better for the people. So then that would mean, at the same rate, it's better to have a country like the United
Starting point is 02:53:50 States than to be... Right. So the Republic... The thing is, with states, you can go to any state. Yeah. With countries, you can't go to any country. Try getting in Japan. I mean, Japan, I mean...
Starting point is 02:53:59 Yeah, you can't get in there. You can't get in there. You can't get in there. You can't get in there. I'm not hating on Japan. It took like 10 Syrians, I think, or something. What'd you say? What's that? The Japanese took like 10 Syrians or something. Try getting into Canada wrong with that. I'm going to hate on Japan. It took like 10 Syrians, I think, or something. What'd you say? The Japanese took like 10 Syrians.
Starting point is 02:54:07 Try getting into Canada. Try that. Try getting into Canada. That's way harder than the United States. They have a very liberal immigration policy. No, Canada's actually a beast to live in because the celebrity's like, oh, I'm so sick of America's ways. I'm headed to Canada.
Starting point is 02:54:20 If you have a DUI, they won't let you in. It's true. It's a beast. A DUI. If you have a DUI, they won't let you in. No. I got to's a beast. A DUI. If you have a DUI, they won't let you in. No. I got to pee. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:54:27 Boys, let's wrap this bitch up. Let's wrap this up. It's 3.20. We watched a couple of fights. I feel like we watched. I'm in New York next Friday, Saturday. Are you doing stand-up comedy in New York City? Correct.
Starting point is 02:54:37 Are you doing Gotham Comedy Club? Yes, sir. I love that spot. Thank you. Such a great place. Can I throw a plug? And then shoot my one hour showtime special january 19th january 19th san diego motherfucker tinfoil hat comedy chicago
Starting point is 02:54:51 december 15th at zany's me and sam triply gonna gonna website website uh just zany's in chicago december he doesn't have like a tinfoil comedy.com or something like that i'll be at the irvine improv for new year's. Yeah! Beautiful. Irvine, that fucking new spot's sweet. I heard it's really sweet. You went to it? Yeah, yeah, I've done it.
Starting point is 02:55:11 Yeah, I love it. Is it newer than the last one? Well, how new is it? Did it move again? Oh, no. Brea is all new. Brea's big now. Brea's all new.
Starting point is 02:55:19 I'm talking Irvine's been like this for like four years. Irvine's great. The spectrum's great. It's awesome. Yeah, it's dope. Can I shot a special there? That's right, bitch. I was there. Okay, fuck. I was there before you even did comedy's great. It's awesome. Yeah, it's dope. Can I shot a special there? That's right, bitch. I was there.
Starting point is 02:55:25 Okay, fuck. I was there before you even did comedy, son. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I was in the back. You hadn't done comedy yet. That's right.
Starting point is 02:55:34 That's right. Dude, you were in the crowd. Fuck. No, I was in the back. You were in the crowd at one show, I think, weren't you? Yeah, he was in the crowd. Oh, yeah. I was in the back, then went to the crowd.
Starting point is 02:55:42 Yeah. That's right. Yeah, because I opened up for Kron. All right. Bye everybody. See ya. We love you guys and girls
Starting point is 02:55:49 and everybody else. You guys want to go see Tito Chuck Liddell? I don't know. Is it going to be on?

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