The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - November 24, 2018
Episode Date: November 24, 2018Joe is joined by Eddie Bravo, Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub to watch the fights on November 24, 2018. ...
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It's nice, right?
Very little.
It's so linear.
Here we go.
Three, two, one.
My phone's off.
Oh!
We're live, ladies and gentlemen.
This is a Fight Companion podcast.
If you've ever listened to one of these before, oftentimes we don't even watch the fights.
We talk about more things.
Yes, but we're watching the fights, certainly at least some of the time.
There's more to life than fights.
Did you guys decide to go, did you call each other and say,
let's double blast with the lilac,
or is that just a coincidence?
This is just luck.
It's a happy coincidence.
Geniuses wear purple.
I just decided to wear purple.
I got here, he's wearing purple,
and he's got a fucking purple car,
so he double purpled.
Yeah, well, that car infuriates me.
Now, I've read that lilac,
and I'm going to call that lilac,
is actually a head turner with the ladies.
They're drawn to the color.
Really?
Yes.
So they say if you're going to go out on a date or you're going to go out on the town,
you might want to throw some lilac on your body.
Or maybe ladies will see the lilac and think you're trying too hard.
Maybe, but it soothes my eye and I can't take my eyes off your torso.
But yet you don't like his car.
No, his car.
Whoa. Well. You told Joe that? Well, let's get rid of that. It inf don't like his car. No, his car. Whoa. Well.
You told Joe that off the house?
Well, let's get rid of that.
That infuriates you.
Yeah, well, that's.
Well, he doesn't know.
He goes, why do you have a wing on the back?
Yeah, that fin is ridiculous.
That keeps the ass down.
Silly fuck.
But we don't need that fin, huh?
You do.
They actually make a GT3.
You're in a windbreaker.
You're in a touring package.
Hey.
The GT3.
Hey, you just attacked my personage.
What?
The windbreaker?
I mean, he's like one of them jogging dad type characters.
No, I'm not.
I'm an athlete. And athletes keep their muscles warm. Educatebreaker? I mean, he's like one of them jogging dad type characters. No, I'm not. I'm an athlete
and athletes keep their muscles warm.
Educate him on the wing, though.
The wing keeps the ass end down.
That's what it does.
It's down force.
But here's my question.
How come you buy a car
in LA traffic
where you got to keep the ass
down?
Oh, it's in the traffic, bro.
You know I have one of those too, right?
You know I have one with a wing.
My GG3 RS.
Whale tail.
Isn't that what they're called?
No, that's different.
A whale tail is like like It's old school
It's like
It's different
It's like the turbos
They had a whale tail
It's like a flat looking
Kind of thing
That is a part
Of the rear deck
This is
Lifted above the rear deck
Brackets
It's an actual tail
It has brackets
It's more effective
The whale tail was old
It is
It's more effective
They don't have whale tails anymore?
No
The whale tails went out
With the 1993 Turbo.
They're expensive to buy now, though.
I guess you kind of-
You're like in a whale tail now.
I like that.
Cars are interesting.
Cars like that are interesting because it's like this psychological thing for all guys.
It's like, at least I know I have the power under my hood.
I'm never going to use it, but I know I got it.
You still have a Tesla?
We all want to know we have it.
Listen to what you're talking about.
You're a beta male, bro.
No, I'm not, dude.
Just because I'm in a windbreaker.
Could there be more beta coming?
No.
I'm a windbreaker.
You drive a Tesla.
I'm about utility, bro.
If you drive fast, it literally results in hundreds of pounds of downforce.
You don't drive that fast.
You don't have to drive that fast to feel the difference.
Have you ever been out of second gear in that car?
Of course he has. Dude, I go very fast. It's a double clutch. I hope the police are listening. You don't drive that fast You don't have to drive that fast To feel the difference Have you ever been out of second gear In that car?
Of course he has Dude I go
It's very fast
It's a double clutch
I hope the police are listening
I really do
You beta bro
Because you're irresponsible
You beta
But you have that fucking Tesla
That thing's fast as shit
Well my buddy
You know Frank's got that
Frank Grillo has that
Why don't you put the headphones on
So we don't talk over each other
He's got that Dodge
800 horsepower
He has like a Hellcat
That's souped up
Oh yeah
I beat him
Off the line
He's not going through
A midlife crisis
What are you saying
I beat him off the line
Oh so you're racing
Irresponsibly on the streets
With children
Oh wow
Might drop a ball
In the traffic
Fast and furious
Started revving his engine
Don't rev your engine at me
I'm good
But if you rev your engine at me
I'll meet you halfway
Why do you care
Your engine doesn't even rev
Exactly
Wouldn't you just
Be cool about it
Let him make his noise You're going to get that New Roadster The one that they launched Into space I mean, I'll meet you halfway. Why do you care? Your engine doesn't even rev. Exactly. Wouldn't you just be cool about it? Dude, I'm...
Let him make his noise and pollute the environment.
You're going to get that new Roadster, the one that they launched into space?
That is dope as fuck.
You're going to get that?
That thing's got a 600-mile range.
I haven't seen it.
Yeah.
The new Tesla?
Because it's lighter, and they have more room for batteries, and they're more efficient
with the battery software and everything now.
Does it not look so gay?
That's my only problem with the Tesla.
Does it look cool? gay? That's my only problem with the Tesla. Oh, the road still looks dope.
The road still looks dope.
It looks like a combination of a Ferrari and a Lotus.
What?
You never seen it?
No.
Pull up that roadster.
My problem with the Tesla right now is that the battery doesn't last long enough.
It just doesn't.
And I don't have anywhere to charge it.
It'll get better, though.
Like the newer ones, every year it'll get better, better, better.
There it is.
It can handle space. It's pretty dope. It can handle space. That's with the roof up. That's a beautiful car. Like the newer ones, every year it'll get better, better, better. There it is. It can handle space.
It's pretty dope.
It can handle space.
You know that.
That's with the roof up.
That's a beautiful car.
Put the roof down.
Show a picture of the roof down.
Kids call it get the titties out.
Look at that.
Damn.
Look at that sun.
1.9 seconds?
1.9 seconds.
What?
1.9 seconds to 60.
That's a demon.
That car will make your fucking RS Porsche look like a slow.
Watch your fucking tone.
I got one, too.
I know, but.
It'll make mine. I'm getting one. 1. one too. I know, but... It'll make mine.
I'm getting one.
1.9 seconds, 0 to 60.
That is a dope car.
Dude.
You know what?
250 miles an hour, dude.
Oh my God.
I don't give a fuck.
621 mile range.
It just doesn't do it for me, dude.
Bro, I'm getting it.
That doesn't do it for you?
Nope.
That car.
I need a V10.
I need a fucking V8 behind that bad boy.
You have an inline six in your car.
Inline six.
I need something pretty gnarly.
Look at that, though.
Look at that.
Dude, I'm getting that car.
Dude, that is a radical looking car.
Just so I can be faster than Brennan.
Just so I can laugh at you.
You'll be a lot faster.
You could drive that car to Vegas.
Really?
You could also suck a dude off.
You could suck a dude off.
What?
In that car.
In that car.
I wouldn't do that unless he was wearing a lilac.
Unless he was.
I don't know, man.
I just can't get behind the electric car.
You will.
Well, you've seen the Porsche?
You've seen the Porsche electric car coming out?
If anyone's going to do it, it's going to be Porsche.
The Porsche looks like dog shit compared to that.
Dude, it's like I don't even know you anymore.
How much is that?
That Taycan?
Dude, the Porsche Taycan electric car?
You've seen the all-electric one?
It looks like shit.
Jamie, bring that shit up.
Porsche, I think it's called a Taycan or something like that.
Is it?
Taycan.
It looks very similar to that, but way cooler.
How much is the Tesla?
How much is that Roadster Tesla?
They don't know yet because it hasn't been released, but probably 200.
Yeah.
Look at that.
What?
Ew.
What?
That does not look nearly as good.
No, it's a nice looking car.
They're not as good as the Tesla.
It's okay.
They're pretty similar, but it's a Porsche.
It's okay.
It's a beautiful car.
The Tesla looks way better.
Nah, I disagree.
And I'm not saying it because my good friend Elon Musk makes it.
By the way, we're good friends.
Oh, I forgot.
I like that that's when he texts me.
Dude, that's not dope.
We text each other.
I text Elon Musk.
I'm his friend.
That's your best friend.
I bought him a clock.
See that clock over there?
I got him one of those.
Got him a custom TGT Studios clock.
No big deal.
Nothing weird about that.
Don't be scared of that weed.
Is he still trying to build that subway underneath the LA?
That motherfucker's trying to build everything. If you talk to him in private, I wish I could try his brain out for a day and find out what's going on in there.
But it's just rattling around information constantly.
Things are flying around.
And he's just grabbing it and stuffing it into boxes and digging holes under the ground and shooting things to the moon.
His brain just doesn't stop.
He's single?
He is now.
Holla.
When you talk to guys like that who are lateral thinkers,
like you realize, like the guy who made me feel really dumb
and almost like a fraud was?
Brendan Schaub?
Not Brendan Schaub.
Peter Thiel.
I was listening to him talk.
And I went, yeah, I met him.
I had dinner at his house tonight.
And I was like, he was talking.
And I realized that everything I say is basically an amalgam of the things I've read or heard.
And he's one of the ones that write those things.
Yeah.
He just thinks up things on his own.
Well, you know, he started PayPal with Elon.
God damn.
That's how those boys got rich?
Yeah.
PayPal?
That's one of the ways.
Well, whenever you think you're a black belt, you realize you're a white belt.
Here you go, buddy.
Pass that shit to me.
He's supposed to be going out.
Elon went on the podcast.
When he asked him a question, though, he really downloaded that data before he gave an answer.
Oh, boy.
Long pauses.
I would say he's enthusiastic, almost like a child with certain things, like with his blowtorch gun, stuff like that.
But when it comes to thinking about things, he'll just sit down and pause before he gives you an answer.
He wants to like really consider it.
Very smart.
Because I just go blah, blah, blah.
And then fucking Tesla.
He's thoughtful.
But that's also one of the charms of you is that you say stupid shit
that you wish you didn't say right after you said it.
Right after you said it, I know he's like,
God damn, I probably should have said that.
Yeah, my entire career, sir.
But look how well it's going.
I mean, you're doing a Showtime special
fucking two and a half years into comedy.
Not even, right? How many years into comedy?
By the time you film it, two and change.
Two and change.
That's outstanding.
I say stick with what got you to the dance.
Keep letting that verbal diarrhea...
Just keep going until I get assassinated.
Yeah, get assassinated Yeah You'll get assassinated
Things will get
Yeah
You'll be fine
You're saying funny shit
It's not mean
Why do you think
You'd get assassinated
What's that guy got going
In his stomach
You talking some mad shit
Which guy
I say crazy shit
Hey what's the referee wearing
The referee's like
Wearing something
Around his waist
A paunch
No no no
It's like a
It's an
Some sort of electronics
It's a fanny pack
Is it?
Maybe he just has a fat dick
Maybe he's
No, see what I'm saying?
On both sides
He's carrying something
It looks like in the front
Maybe it is a fanny pack
Damn, we don't know who's fighting
Jing Ling
Jing Ling
He is a beast
Jing Ling
I do know the Chinese fella
Yes, he is
Is he?
How long has he been in the UFC?
Folks watching at home
Four minutes and 37, 36, 35, 34, 33 seconds into the first round.
Dude, fuck this card.
If it ain't Chuck Tito, I ain't watching.
Oh, shit.
They're fighting today, right?
I guess.
Yeah, that's fine.
They're fighting tonight.
Is there an undercard for that?
Or are they just this time?
There's an undercard with like 19 fights. They both look in great shape.
Right?
Yes.
They both look in great shape.
Chuck looks in great shape.
Chuck has a gigantic vein across his bicep.
They've been tested, too.
That's a good sign.
Pretty strict.
Chuck always had that like kind of his belly always sticks out.
We call it the power gut.
Power gut.
He's always had that.
Even when he was at the top of the food chain.
When he was the best light heavyweight...
Oh, shit.
Zawada clipped him. Damn, Jing Leng.
Even when
Chuck was at the top of the food chain, he always had
that. That's just how he's built.
He's just built odd. Tito was pointing at
it. It was really funny. He was making fun of him,
but he was wearing a shirt.
It didn't make any sense. It was strange.
The whole thing's been a little strange.
I think they should have done like a,
because those guys should go out on their shields as Hall of Famers.
I think, I wish, you know, Chuck said when they wanted to do the fight,
he called Dana.
Dana was like, get the fuck out.
It ain't happening.
Good luck, though.
And so I wish they would have done like a tough finale or like a big card,
and they're just like a feature fight or some shit.
I want to see it.
I support everyone's right to do whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it
as long as they're not hurting anybody.
And this goes into that.
I support your right to bull ride.
I support your right to skydive.
Do whatever you want to do, man.
And if these guys, what is our thought?
If they don't do this, they're going to live forever?
No.
They know the risk.
They're big boys.
The real question is, should they be doing it? They went through all the risks. They're big boys. The real question is, should they be doing it?
They went through all the testing.
Because I said, I had Chuck and Tito both on my show.
I asked Chuck, I'm like, you've gone through all the testing with the commission in California?
Because when I was fighting, going through California commissions, they were by far the strictest.
You do not want to fight here.
If you're taking protein powder, they're the worst.
Chuck's like, I went through all the California commission shit.
I'm like, damn.
I'm a big fan of this guy who runs it in California.
Andy Foster. He's a beast.
He's really on top of the ball.
He's super proactive. He's really smart.
He used to fight himself. Lifelong
martial artist. Full respect
for the sport.
Super progressive about people's
weight cuts. Doesn't want people cutting
a shitload of weight in his state.
He tries to monitor their hydration.
He wants to get your weight out in advance.
He's ahead of it with everything.
He's not a dinosaur.
No, he's ahead of it also with weight classes.
They instituted more weight classes in California
early on.
Are you guys aware of how 1FC does their weigh-ins?
What have you guys talked about on the podcast?
How do they do it?
Dan Askren explained it. How do they do it?
There's no weight cutting, man.
There's no weight cutting. They do hydration tests.
They do hydration tests. So you fight whatever is closest to your natural
weight, which I think makes sense.
One FC, 100% is doing it
better than anybody else. 100%.
You know what the problem with that is, though?
Some people have bodies. They stop the weight
cutting. It's not necessary. They stop the weight cutting.
It's not necessary.
So it's the divisions.
The division is what you weigh.
So Ben Askren went up to 185. He was 170, and they jumped him up to 185, which is like his real walk-around weight.
How do they determine what that weight is?
There's got to be an official weigh-in at some point.
Look, you could always manipulate your weight and stay healthy within a certain range of your discipline.
Still weigh safe. And you would still be hydrated. Look, you could always manipulate your weight and stay healthy within a certain range of your discipline. Still way safer than what they're doing.
And you would still be hydrated.
So if you, like say if you said your best weight is 165, you just decided that.
All you would have to do is make sure you got your body weight down and do it over a long period of time so that you're doing cardio, you're eating right, you're making sure.
And then keep your weight in that range.
Like you could decide to fluctuate 10 pounds one way or the other and still be fairly healthy.
It's just a matter of how much certain kinds of exercise you do and how much time.
But the thing about the certain kinds of exercise is once people got some power, they don't want to give that power up.
And if you're like 175 but jacked and you really would be better off 165 but a little thinner, you know, like cardio-wise, a lot of guys don't want to give up that power.
But also, you know,
some guys are huge for their weight class,
and for whatever reason,
like Darren Till,
and who's the guy in Bellator
who lost Rory Markham in the title fight,
Rory McDonald?
Lima, Douglas Lima.
Those guys are giant for their weight class.
Beast.
And I think sometimes some people have the kind of body,
like some people have a body,
like they're 230,
but their weight's all on their ass and legs, and they have upper bodies and maybe that's not as good as someone like i don't know who has like they're until
that's all well and good but the real thing should be what do you really weigh yeah all the other
stuff is bullshit all the other stuff is just we've just agreed upon this because we've been
doing it this way for so long it It should be get to a healthy weight.
What do you weigh?
And there's got to be more weight classes.
It's the only way you're going to fix it.
All we are is copying wrestling.
How do they test the hydration?
They make you urinate.
And they check your urine.
And they check the weight of your urine.
That's one of the ways.
There's a bunch of different sophisticated ways to do it.
The weight of your urine that's one of the ways there's a bunch of different sophisticated ways to do it but the weight of your yeah because the more minerals and the more uh stuff is in your your urine it
indicates how much uh water you have in your body like what you know what percentage of water you
have in your body whether or not you're dehydrated just make sure i might be wrong about that so if
you pee so when you pee uh a clear that means you're more hydrated yes yes
and the darker it is necessarily no none if you've taken a bunch of vitamins yeah they're
still p dark bright yellow yeah oh my shit will be toxic
some of it does come out in your urine but some of it still is getting absorbed in your body
it's not all of it that's going out in your urine.
It's still a good idea to take multivitamins.
1FC hired Misha Tate, too.
She's moving there.
She's going to move to Singapore.
I think it's a smart move, man.
She's a smart girl.
Singapore's a great place to live. Hey, man.
I mean, they might seriously be looking at her as a big-time executive, like the female Dana White for Asia.
Sounds like that's what they're doing. Well, Rich Franklin's doing it, too, though, right? Doesn't he have a big time executive like the female dana white for for asia sounds like that's what
they're doing well rich franklin's doing it too though right doesn't he have a big role over there
as well yeah huge role what does he do over there i'm not sure what he does but he he's got a he's
got like some kind of executive job and does he live in singapore as well yep damn frank you gotta
live in singapore you have to right mishaisha was headed there They're not gonna commit to you
Unless you commit to them
Now did
Brandon Vera just won
Did he
Was that in one FC
Did you see his fight
Yeah
Dude Brandon Vera
He took like two years
Dude still doing it
A monster in heavyweight
He looks amazing
Dude he looks so good
The guy beats no punk either
And he's starched
Wasn't he an Olympic
Greco guy
Brandon Vera
No
He was a very good wrestler.
He was a high-level Greco, yeah.
Very good wrestler.
And you know what the funny thing is,
really what he's known for is his kickboxing.
Amazing kickboxing.
You know, he had a hard time in the UFC, dude,
because there was this one period of time
where they were in contract negotiations,
and I feel like he lost a lot of momentum there.
Because remember, he beat Frank Mir.
Yeah, Frank Mir.
And then goes, I'm going to be the light heavyweight champion and heavyweight champion.
Yeah.
What's up?
And then there were issues.
Yeah.
Then there were issues.
And then he was out for a while.
Yeah, he was out for a long time.
It was tough, man.
He got his nose fucking...
He came back.
Didn't he also fight Fabricio Verdum And he got trapped under the mount
Wasn't it Verdum who TKO'd him
Was it Verdum
I feel like Verdum just handled him
I remember you realized he had really good Jiu Jitsu
Remember he submitted
What's that dude's name
Brazilian cat
Fuck I'm forgetting his name now
Oswario Silva
Big dude
Yeah big dude
Yeah he had skills dude
He trained at 10th Planet
I was there with him
At 10th Planet one day
Way back in the day
He dropped in
Bomb squad days
He dropped in a few times
Yeah
But he was also trained
By a homeboy
Rob Kamen
No
Yes
For kickboxing
But Jiu Jitsu
The black dude
He was in San Diego
The Alliance
He's been with the Alliance forever but he was a black belt
who's the black dude that and he turned uh lloyd irvin yeah he was with mike yeah exactly he's a
lloyd irvin dude brandon bear has a bad motherfucking skills well what's crazy is how does he wrestling
and his grappling was like what you would think if you looked at his skill set but it's like he he
just got so good at striking early on.
He was known more of a striker than anything.
Oh, by far.
Dude, remember when Frank Mir came back after the motorcycle accident?
Like, here's Brandon Vera.
And Brandon Vera went, cool story.
Knee, knee, knee.
And just fucked him up.
Yeah, he fucked him up.
It was horrible.
Doesn't he have a head kick knockout, too?
Brandon Vera?
Oh, yeah.
Dude, you see that bunch?
A bunch.
I meant like in the UFC. Big time head kick knockout. Well, he knocked He's got a bunch of those. He's got a bunch. I meant like in the UFC.
Big time head kick knockout.
Well, he knocked out
Frank Mir with a head kick.
Who smashed his nose?
His nose got so fucked up
in one fight.
Remember?
Brandon Barry's nose?
Yeah, his nose was
literally completely
flat.
He's had some great wins,
He's had some tough fights,
man.
But in one fight,
you see him soccer kick
dudes in the face?
Dude, it's wrong.
When they let him
kick people on the ground, first of all, he's so much bigger now.
You haven't seen him beat? No.
Dude, he's so jacked now.
He's so jacked.
And some poor soul he fought was like, oh, they're soccer kicks? Not worried.
He's huge.
So you're allowed to kick guys on the ground?
When the guys are on the ground, he's soccer kicking them in the head.
Crow cop Waterman style.
It's bad, dude.
That's not a good rule.
Look that up.
I think that rules.
Like on their back.
It's fighting.
Getting head kicked.
Dude, but that soccer head kick, that'll make you rethink your entire life.
The soccer head kick, there's so much power in that.
It's part of the game.
It is probably the most powerful kick you could do, honestly.
It's one of those weird kicks that doesn't really show up in martial arts,
except if you allow someone to kick someone when they're down.
Because that's the only time or wherever you can generate that kind of power.
Because if you really think about it, like everything else,
you've got to kind of teach your foot to do this.
You've got to teach your body to do this.
You've got to teach yourself.
But this.
A kid does that.
Everybody does that.
You're talking about the Charlie Brown kids.
That's the Charlie Brown.
From like one foot away and just fucked it.
And wham.
Everybody can do it.
You know how violent that is?
You can hold their head.
You can.
Really?
Everybody can do that.
Jamie, bring Brandon Vera up.
First of all, Brandon Vera looks like a video game character now.
I need to see him because he used to be flat.
His body was flat.
No, he looks like a sagging off Street Fighter now.
Dude, he looks like sagging off Street Fighter.
Is that from eating a lot of steak?
Yes.
What do you think? He's like 240 now. Dude, he's a giant. He looks like Saginaw Street Fighter. Is that from eating a lot of steak? Yes. What do you think?
He's like 230 now, 240 maybe?
Boom.
Every bit of it.
And that's just one.
That's just one.
Look at this.
Wow.
Look at this.
Boom.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
But this one is just.
He's athletic as shit.
That's not a bad one.
That's just one.
There's another one when he's head kicking the guy while the guy's down.
He just soccer kicks the shit out of him.
He was like the first real big time athlete that
I remember. But some people
think that this is a better way
to express fighting because this
is realistic. I disagree.
Oh, that's the back of the head.
I think that's bad. I like it.
Eddie loves that shit.
Too barbaric, man. I would like to see headbutts.
Bring the headbutts back. Oh, this fight is over?
No. In between rounds. We're not even paying attention to this fight at all. Bring the headbutts back. Oh, this fight is over? No. That's Cambodia. In between rounds.
We're not even paying attention to this fight at all.
We're watching extraneous fights.
This is when people get mad.
No one pays attention to these fights.
Fucking watch it, man.
This is a good fight.
This is actually a really good fight.
You know, UFC Fight Pass is working on getting this league.
I think it's in Burma where you just wrap your hands.
It's Muay Thai kickboxing with head
butts. Yeah. Legal.
What is it called? Letchway? How do you say it?
Yeah, it's called
Lethway or something. Lethway, I think.
It's a fight league?
They're working on getting that fight pass.
It's crazy what that means.
So they put ropes on their hands?
Yeah, they wrap their hands up with something. I'm not sure.
But the fact that headbutts are legal,
holy shit.
So Frank Grillo in Fight World
went to Cambodia and lived with them
and studied with them.
And the problem is
they don't have ice in Cambodia.
They're so poor.
So when they get hit in the face and stuff,
they just stay swollen.
So between rounds.
Left way.
Left way.
I wonder how they say it.
I wonder how you pronounce it.
There's some epic shots,
highlights of elbows,
headbutts. Standing against the you pronounce it. There's some after-hits shots, highlights. Elbows, headbutts.
Standing against the ropes.
Boom.
Dude just dropped.
And are you allowed to hit to the back of the head?
I'm not sure about that.
You know, Eddie and I have talked about this a hundred times,
but it's an important fact that when you watch head kicks,
there's a lot of the time head kicks are landing to the back of the head.
Like you say you can't hit someone in the back of the head, right?
It's not supposed to be legal.
If I go over your shoulder and I kick you, I'm kicking the back of your head. Did you ever see Ernesto?
So do punches, though.
Like a lot of right hands, a guy at turn, it hits him right in the fucking back of the head.
Bring up Ernesto Hoost when he hits Maurice Green.
Maurice Smith.
Yeah.
Dude, he wraps his head around your fucking head
And his neck just goes
His neck just went
That was tough
I was good friends with Maurice when that was going on
Maurice was fighting when
He probably shouldn't have been
Doing it anymore
Well, Ernesto Host is
But I mean he was fighting Like pro kickboxing
While he was also doing MMA
Right
And like Maurice
Is a world class kickboxer
But I really think
For you to fight a guy
Like Ernesto Hoost
You kind of have to be
Kickboxing all the time
Of course
You gotta be all in
Of course
Yeah
And Maurice
Look at that
Yeah
And Maurice
Like for real
Was a super skilled
World champion kickboxer
But he had been doing...
Oh, my God.
That's rough.
How do you...
Look at that.
He lifts his...
Watch this.
Dude, he was so good.
Mr. Perfect.
Remember his fights against Bob Sapp?
Yeah, dude.
Those were fun, too.
His fucking leg kicks, man.
They're the best.
Look at the way he punches, though.
Yeah.
Well, he did everything awesome.
God.
But the thing about him...
Didn't you know?
Here's another one.
Look at him now. He looks like a super fighter game, too, he did everything awesome. But the thing about him, didn't you know? Here's another one. Look at him now.
He looks like a super fighter game too, right?
Doesn't he look like some kind of video game character in these images?
Well, then go to him early in his career.
He was a bag of bones, man.
Really?
Yeah, he was skinny.
What do you think?
He was like 160.
Yeah, he was a good diet.
Dude, for real, he was real thin.
He was very long and almost like stylebender-like.
And then he got super jacked later in his career as a damn crow cop.
Dude, his leg kicks were sensational.
How about when Bob Sapp beat him?
Yeah, right?
Dude, twice.
You think that was a real fight?
Fuck yeah.
You think those were real?
Fuck yeah, that shit was real.
Real to me.
Dude, Bob Sapp is a giant human being.
375.
They faked a lot of fights, though.
They faked a lot of fights.
How dare you, Eddie Green.
It's true, Avery.
No, he's right.
Did Bob Sapp have the fucked up shoulder, or was it Ernesto?
Remember, they kept hitting it, and that's what stopped the fight?
No, no, no.
Mary had a fucked up shoulder?
No, that was a different fight.
I think you're thinking of a different fight.
No, I'm not.
One of them had a really fucked up shoulder, and he kept kicking it.
And he was like, no, no, no.
Ernesto kept kicking it?
Yeah, he was like, no, no, no.
Maybe that was Bob Sapp.
That had to be one that he lost, because he won the two fights that he had against Ernesto
that I'm aware of.
Bob Sapp did.
Didn't he, Eddie?
Bob Sapp beat Ernesto.
Yeah, he beat him.
That's all I know is that he beat him once.
He had a fucked up shoulder.
I don't remember the second fight or if they even fought twice or three times.
I just remember Bob Sapp beating him.
You know, when you really think about it, man,, you know Maurice Smith worked with Bob Sapp as well,
taught him a lot about kickboxing.
But when you think about it,
Maurice was like the first real high-level kickboxer
to become successful at MMA.
The first world champion.
Remember when he fought Conan Silvera and head kicked him?
Everybody was like,
you can't beat a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.
You're definitely not going to beat him.
And Coleman.
Remember when he fought Coleman?
Dude, I was there. I was there. So was him. And Coleman. Remember when he fought Coleman? Dude.
And he was there.
Yeah.
I was there.
So was I.
We were at that fight together.
That's right.
We were there together.
God damn.
How long ago was that?
1996.
Holy shit.
Right?
96, 97?
No, I think it was 97.
97.
It might have even been 98.
He kept saying, come on, come on, come on.
Come on, Mark.
Ground and pound me.
Ground and pound me.
Boom.
Come on, Mark.
Come on, ground and pound me.
Come on, ground and pound me. me. Ground and pound me. Come on, Mark. Ground and pound me. Come on.
Ground and pound me.
And you saw it.
Mark, at one point, got kicked one too many times.
He just went, stopped, and everybody went, oh!
He did take down Maury Smith a couple times.
The problem was Maury Smith has a very good defensive guard.
High-level recovery.
And fantastic cardio.
Who was he working with? He was working with Frank Shamrock. Did a lot of work with Frank Shamrock. High level recovery. And fantastic cardio. Who was he working with?
He was working with Frank Shamrock.
Matt Hume.
Did a lot of work with Frank Shamrock.
Frank Shamrock.
Matt Hume.
He was good friends with Shamrock.
He was also an easy 230, like just a natural 230.
Oh, Jenga Lang.
He actually played lockdown too.
Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, look, Maury Smith is a smart guy.
And his kickboxing was so high level, man.
When he started fighting these mma fighters
and they realized that he could defend himself off of his back but if you're standing up with
him you're just fucked man yeah the problem was mark coleman wasn't um never really worked on his
guard passing back then you know what i mean he just he just assumed that when you take someone
down you just get on top of them and beat the shit out of them.
But that's true if you don't have any kind of guard.
But Maurice Smith had a professional defensive guard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also, this is the headbutt days.
That was headbutt days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think they fought with gloves on either.
The guard stance was different.
Did they have gloves?
You would overhook here.
They had gloves, right?
Yeah, they definitely had gloves.
A sidekick?
Do you remember the most important guard position when headbutts are allowed?
Oh, got to grab the back of the head.
No.
Hold on.
Overhook, overhook.
He just won with a sidekick.
With a front foot sidekick.
Straight to the gut.
Damn.
He's a beast, man.
He's had some great fights in the UFC. Man. John Jones dropped Vitor Belfort with a front leg sidekick. Straight to the gut. Damn. A front foot sidekick. He's a beast, man. He's had some great fights in the UFC.
Man.
Jon Jones dropped Vitor Belfort with a front leg sidekick once.
That was amazing.
I've never seen that.
That was a front foot sidekick.
Front leg sidekick, one of the most underrated kicks.
People just don't do it that good.
Do you think Vitor Belfort's cage side tonight with Chuck Tielman rushes the cage?
And says, I won't fight both you pussies.
But he's just fucking juiced to the gills.
And we're like, yeah.
It probably will happen.
Yeah, it'd be sick.
If they'd let him.
If the UFC let him go over there.
If they let him leave.
Oh, that's right.
I bet Dana will.
Listen, man.
And they'll have him, too.
You know, if they just got to regulate medications,
make sure that everything's okay.
Come on.
I mean, if they're testing Chuck and Tito
You gotta test Vitor too
Vitor can't fight in Cali
Let's not do that
Okay
Let's only have him fight in like
Let's see me on an Indian reservation
What weight was this?
What weight was this?
I don't know
185?
170
Yeah
Is it lightweight?
Big 170 years
Dude how about
Patsanibbio versus Neil Magny
Yeah man he looked really good
Patsanibbio's a real problem for people.
He looks really good. Fuck, he's good, man.
Neil Magny, I don't know if it's the jet lag or what.
He's my boy, but it was a late start, and he
got eight the fuck up. Yeah, he got chewed
up. He got chewed up. He said he got
poked in the eye early in the first round,
and he just couldn't decide depth.
He had no idea what to do, so he's just
always waiting. Patsanibbio.
That's a real problem
man and you know there's a solution in the works i can't talk about it i'm sworn to secrecy
eye pokes goggles yeah no they've uh they have a better glove design that they're working on
right now that someone's working i can't say anything i already said too much try and keko
hands dude i also heard uh they're doing something about the rumor it's a
super rumor i don't start anything you saw it in 2019 i might be like really really boom look at
that sidekick to the body and then nasty left hands you mean they might get rid of usada and
we're back to the old days that's crazy i don't know if they were getting rid of it But maybe a little That is so crazy
Sidekick to the body
But especially the way he threw it
I mean he really got his weight behind it
You could fuck people up with that man
Set of lips on him
It's like we all accept that the front leg side
Or the turning side kick or spinning back kick
We all accept that puts people out right
Well how much harder is
your turning side kick than your front leg side kick way harder yeah but significantly but how
much does it take really to make your body cave in because my front leg side side kick is way
harder than my left hook way harder your front foot front leg side kick really so yeah so if you
if you think like of course you can left hook someone in the body and drop them and
fuck them up bad.
You hit them in the liver, right?
Well, why wouldn't you think that you could do that also with a front leg sidekick on
a regular basis?
Yeah.
You just got to have a quicker snap to it.
That's what most of these guys-
It takes a long time to develop.
That's the problem.
It takes, you got to develop that quick snap and that's what most guys are missing.
Most guys, it comes out too slow.
So it's like a push.
The body's more designed for a left hook.
You can keep the power in your left hook probably until you're in your 60s
versus a front kick is an athletic move.
There's really no heavyweight to kick that much.
No.
Well, Volkov.
A little bit, but not like crazy.
Volkov is a good kicker.
Yeah.
But nothing like crazy.
No.
Nothing like a crow cop type character.
No.
There's no one in the UFC right now.
For the big guys, there's really not.
That's a kicker.
Who else?
Well, there must be someone we're not thinking of.
Marcin Tabura kicks a lot.
But he's not like a Barbosa.
Not like a heavyweight Barbosa.
There's no like just monster with the kicks.
Yeah, I was hoping that was going to be something we would acquire, right?
Like, get some sort of Rico Verhoeven type character.
Yeah.
Because he's fighting MMA, and he's training at AKA.
Well, listen, stand-up-wise, he's on not just one level,
but so many levels above most people in MMA.
Rico Verhoeven is a it's a monster as far as
strict stand-up but that doesn't always come out it doesn't translate no it doesn't translate you
gotta have you gotta like the distance is different the timing your stance verhoeven is something
special and he's a he's a big giant guy have you ever seen him no crazy is he a obviously a dutch guy one of those giant milk fed dutch
really yeah he's uh he's about 240 plus pounds and the guy has mad cardio it's one of the crazy
things about him he puts a crazy pace on these guys and he's a striker have you seen some of
his mma fights no who the fuck is fighting that poor soul i mean he's just there you have mercy
you want some of that fuck is? What the fuck is going on?
You want some of that?
Yeah, see if you can find a highlight reel.
Oh, I mean, I'd have to use my kicks.
Dude, and he's at A.B., and he's at A.K., training with D.C., Kane.
Dude, hey, guys, I've sparred.
Whoa.
What is this?
Bro, what the fuck are you showing us, Jamie?
He's searching on your ass right there.
Hey, don't put, don't you do that.
I thought he was about to be his boyfriend for a second.
He's a giant Dutchman. he's a giant dutchman
he's a giant dutchman
find a highlight reel
he's a monster dude
great hair too
and he's a young guy
I mean I don't even know
that guy survived too
he looks like my uncle
he can take a beating
no that big guy is supposed to be super skill. He looks like my uncle. He can take a beating. No, that big guy's
supposed to be super tough.
For sure.
Look at that.
People like that kind of shit.
You know, it's like...
Oof.
Goddamn.
People love when
Big Roy wins by knockout.
They trust...
Yes, they do.
Wow, look at that.
Isn't it weird?
That guy must do
fucking tons of cardio.
He just...
His gut just stays.
He just ate the wrong food, bro.
Look at that fucking combo.
Look at his kicks, man.
I mean, Rico Verhoeven.
Go to his MMA fight.
Go to his MMA fight.
Some guy gets fucking starched.
And you can't, he's not fighting experienced dudes.
Wait, wait, wait.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
I was going to his MMA fight.
Who's running this shit, man?
You can't listen?
I'm all over the place, Jamie.
His kicks are so awful.
You were trying to watch some of this stuff.
God, knees kicks.
Oh!
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is right.
How old is he?
I don't even think he's 30.
17.
Boom!
He's 15 years old.
Russian?
No, he's Dutch.
If I had to guess, I would say he's like 29.
How old is he?
I'd say he's in his 30s.
You can't check it?
The Dutch are the tallest people in the world, right?
They're the biggest people in the world in general.
Are they?
Yeah.
They're giant people.
I don't know if they're the biggest people in the world, but they average.
I heard they're the tallest people in the world on average.
Dude, I'd love to see him and Alistair Overeem go out in MMA.
A couple of big boys.
Alistair would take them down for sure.
Alistair's a very good grappler.
But Alistair would definitely stand up with them for a little bit. For sure. Which is what he does. But he would take him down for sure. Alistair's a very good grappler. But Alistair would definitely stand up with him for a little bit.
For sure.
Which is what he does, but he would take him down.
Alistair, very underrated grappler.
Oh, amazing grappler.
Yeah, and his ground and pound will fuck you up.
It's a real problem.
He's used dome for his guillotine for a little bit.
Yeah, and it's also he's just had so many more MMA fights.
He's been fighting for 100 years.
Yeah.
He's good at everything.
But Verhoeven, he has an advantage over basically everybody right now in heavyweight.
Saki has that smooth build, too, where he's just like, you know what?
Oh, my God.
Look at him.
But what's interesting is Saki, what is he fighting, 185 in the UFC?
Yeah.
Or no, 205.
205.
But he should be a 185-er.
Yeah, that's what it is, right? Yeah, he should be fighting 185-er. Yeah, that's what it is, right?
Yeah, he should be fighting 185.
What's that, bro?
29.
29 years old.
Van Hoeven.
29 years old.
Van Hoeven.
Rico Verhoeven.
So is he in the UFC yet or no?
No.
He's making his way through smaller organizations.
So show me one of his MMA fights.
Holy shit.
He fights MMA?
Yes, bro.
Yeah.
Some poor soul who's 0-1 is fighting him. Rico Ver MMA? Yes, bro. Yeah. Some poor soul
who's 0-1
is fighting him.
Rico Verhoeven.
Rico Verhoeven.
Verhoeven.
Verhoeven.
He's a real problem.
And he's training with Kane
in D.C.
Heavyweight.
What?
Every bit of heavy.
He's huge, dude.
I mean, he's like 6'4".
He better get that
jiu-jitsu together, though.
Isn't he about 6'4"?
He's a big boy.
He's a big boy.
Big boy and 240 jacked.
Don't let the gold snitch on him though.
Maybe not.
There's been a lot of
great strikers coming. Let's wait and see what happens
next year. He's got to get that
jiu-jitsu together. Oh, for sure, right?
Yeah. What do you think is happening?
Again, rumor
on super dark web rumor
is that there's going to be a change with
USADA moving forward a little bit.
Is this him, Jamie, in this video?
Oh, shit. He took the guy down.
Nice. Maybe he's good at jiu-jitsu.
He's an athlete.
Look, he's mounting him.
Oh, the body.
Dude, you do not want that guy on top of you.
Oh, shit.
Looks like, who knows, maybe he's really good on the ground. Body. Oh, shit. Dude, you do not want that guy on top of you. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Looks so weird.
Looks like, who knows?
Maybe he's really good on the ground.
Show me that again, Jamie.
Show me the beginning part of it again.
This must have been a while ago if it's on Inside MMA.
He's still doing that high cover up, which obviously worked there.
Man, he had to take the dude down.
Yeah, that was a wild little exchange
I mean that dude did not
I mean they came to throw at each other
That guy was not avoiding him
I like how he's punching the ribs from the mount
Who does that?
His most recent fight he starts so hard
He can hit you so hard
You get a real striker on top of you
That actually can turn their hips in
Generate the force Do you remember when real striker on top of you that actually could turn their hips in.
Generate the force.
Yeah.
Do you remember when Crow Cop got on top of Gabriel Gonzaga?
The rematch, the revenge fight.
The elbows?
He smashed him with elbows.
Oh, they were horrific.
Horrible.
Horrific.
And then Gabriel got good with elbows from the bottom. Didn't he fuck somebody up from the bottom?
Look at the Uri Faber in this corner there.
Look at this.
Here it is.
This is more...
The video is more recent.
This is Rico Verhoeven. This looks like the same
fight, doesn't it?
How many has he had?
That looks like the same guy.
I don't know how it would be.
It's the same guy.
For a kickboxer, not bad passing. That looks like the same guy. I don't know how it would be. No, it's the same guy. Yeah, same guy.
For a kickboxer, not bad passing.
Yeah, I mean, he's going to learn.
He's high.
He's also smart.
So what got him to become an elite kickboxer,
that kind of intelligence as well as hard work,
he's just going to translate that to MMA.
He's just got to make sure that he fixes the holes in his game.
He's at the right camp. Whatever he's got.
And he likes the mount.
He's at the right camp, a.k.a. with the wrestlers.
These are hard fucking punches, man.
Look at this.
Cleaning room for your body.
Just lifting a leg up.
I think only one time ever, maybe twice,
has someone gotten knocked out while they were mounting somebody.
From the bottom. Really? You're saying the guy on mount got knocked out while they were mounting somebody from the bottom?
Really?
You're saying the guy on mount got knocked out?
From the bottom?
Yeah.
Somebody punches up?
Yeah, it's happened at least once, maybe twice.
That's embarrassing.
Getting knocked out while you're being mounted.
I mean, not while you're mounted.
Sorry, excuse me.
I think Dwayne Ludwig, and when, wasn't that something that, who?
It happened in Japan.
Yeah.
Man, I'm trying to remember this.
Dwayne Ludwig's fight?
Yeah.
Why do I feel like Dwayne Ludwig did it to, oh, Eve Edwards.
Dwayne Ludwig did it to Eve Edwards.
He hurt him, like, really bad.
And Eve, like, covered it up.
And Eve was on top?
Yeah, Eve was on top. And Dwayne punched him from the bottom and hurt him really bad and eve like covered it up and he was on top yeah eve was on top and duane
punched him from the bottom and hurt him really bad he talked about it on the podcast now i remember
dude how long has this fight taken to get to this point what's going on here i feel like well they're
uh they're in china is that where they're at maybe they're just giving us chance to
settle in isn't it weird though, though? China's communist, right?
The communists in...
That's not really...
They're not really...
They're a capitalist country.
Okay.
They're a command economy, though,
like, so where a lot of decisions
are made by the Politburo,
by the actual government,
and then from there...
Their flag looks like
the Soviet Union flag.
Yeah.
Well, it's still...
Red China, right?
It's kind of communist. There was a communist revolution in China. Not anymore Union flag. Yeah. Well, it's still... Red China, right?
Yeah.
It's kind of communist. There was a communist revolution in China.
Not anymore, though.
It's weird because it's not a democracy.
No.
You know, when I went to Beijing for Abu Dhabi, and in the hotels, boom, they have the TV
on with the propaganda in your face.
Oh, really?
How long ago?
You're told.
Just talking shit on the United States.
Really? Yeah. It's a documentary that's on you know it's the default setting on your tvs and in
beijing when when you get there you sit down to watch tv and a documentary on how bad the united
states is is playing this is this is why we're doing what we're doing look at the united states
the united states is uh you know, they're just going down the list
of all the things that the United States does
that is detrimental to society.
Did you have to do your fingerprints on the machine?
You get all your fingerprints recorded
and then you're given,
at least when I was shooting a movie,
you were given a...
You were just there, right?
Yeah, you were given a memo to say,
if you, and no political dissent
like you will not
voice your political point of view
if it's contrary to the government's
you know, lie.
I don't know why you would.
And if you do that
you'll be asked to leave
or you could be
Didn't some American kid
like try and steal something
like sunglasses or some shit?
Oh yeah, that was Ball's son.
Ball's son, yeah.
The UCLA basketball team
stole like some sunglasses
and fucking Trump
had to help get them out.
They don't fuck around in China.
They're about to be super fucked.
But Deng Xiaoping said famously, to be rich is glorious, which was so contrary to the communist manifesto.
Well, it's cool as fuck that there's not only the UFC in there, so it can't be that communist.
It's a huge market.
Everybody wants the Chinese market.
Well, that's the next big push for the UFC, right?
I mean, internationally, they're growing like a motherfucker.
You're not getting Google.
You know, when we tried, you had to keep trying to find servers that would provide Google
and the internet in China.
You can't get it.
Because they limit you to the access of everything, right?
Yes, and then they find you and they shut that down.
Then you got to find another one.
So anybody who worked on the set.
Be cool, man.
Anybody who worked on the set couldn't get, you're given a phone there.
So when I was an actor, I was given a phone with wechat by it's a phone issued to me that i can use there i can't
use technically my phone and link into the worldwide web that's like a cricket too many
firewalls yeah they you and then by the way if you want to use your phone you download something
called wechat which is an app which you know is controlled by somebody
so it's so there's a lot of group think there's zero there's zero dissent and if you say something
derogatory about the government you disappear like and something like wechat they probably
monitor it jesus man fuck they monitor of course they monitor it of course they do you didn't
it's an amazing example of how you can control a lot of people but you know in the north korea
you don't even there is no internet correct no they get no internet korea no tv channels
worst place no hbo i talked to a friend of mine who works for the government and his wife works
for the government too and they had to go to russia for something and he said they were you
were told just absolutely think you're being followed everywhere you go.
Assume they're listening to every word you say.
Assume that your hotel room's bugged.
And then where you go, you're being followed.
That's right.
It's kind of like the States.
More evidence WeChat is recording private messages for Beijing to spy on users.
Did you even use the phone, really, B?
Not really.
You text me right now and tell me how bad it sucks.
Hasn't that been happening already for a while?
Don't we already know that?
That they're like...
Yeah.
Everything that's online is...
When it's confirmed like that, it just freaks people out as well as it should.
But, you know, we forgot how...
This is why freedom of expression and freedom of speech in this country is so important.
Because while this is happening here in the United States and freedom of speech is, you know, something that it gets up for debate sometimes.
It's like who gets to decide who gets to say this and gets to say that.
What should we stop? The problem with any kind of censorship is right while we're here being able to talk shit on a podcast,
there are big, giant spots in the world filled with billions of people that can't do this.
If they did this, they would get arrested.
Like what country?
They would get locked up.
That's exactly right.
What country?
China.
This is deja vu.
China.
You can't do podcasts in China?
If we didn't podcast the way we do podcasts, no fucking chance, man.
The Arab world.
I mean, one of the things that came out in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, what's
come out is that these governments are saying, the royal family and the people that are in
power, they go, well, there's political dissent.
So you've got journalists or people who form groups that for, say, let's say democracy
or elections.
And guess what?
They hire American mercenaries. There's just a whole article on it blackwater dudes guys like that
they hire american mercenaries to take care of their terrorist problem and their terrorist
problem is that they get as long as the american company gets issued weaponry and orders from the
standing army then they can do whatever they want jesus christ and so this all came what
was the article i just read it was fascinating it was in new york times but it was just exposed
where there are these ex badass special forces guys making a fortune essentially acting as
mercenaries in countries like the united arab emirates etc to get rid of their terrorist
problem now that's the royal family saying it's a terrorist problem when it could very well be just a political group but they're getting killed that's terrible so you know but
the bigger issue in this country is apparently from what i'm seeing in my own experience is that
when you put a certain ad on facebook and facebook decides that that ad might be offensive to someone
my account just got flagged, yeah.
Okay, and so even if you say,
get in the best shape of your life
or whatever it might be,
that might make other people feel uncomfortable.
For whatever reason,
it's either a bot, an algorithm, or somebody
is flagging that ad
or shutting down your account.
And I know a number of people that that's happened to.
So what the fuck is going on there?
But you know also, too, is if let's say you do an ad or you do a post on Instagram let's say you have
two million followers on how many you have let's say you have 60 million and you do a post you know
they limit how many people it reaches now you have to pay extra to make sure it reaches they got you
this is Facebook it was I don't mind that because that's Instagram does that too that's why it says
promote your post like why I have fucking 60 that's why does that too. That's why it says promote your post. Like, wow, I have fucking $60 million. That's why?
Yeah.
So that's how they're going to make money.
That seems like a business model.
But hold on.
Is it fucked up?
Here.
Yeah, it's kind of smart.
Yeah.
It's business.
It's business.
Smart doesn't mean it's not fucked up.
One of those fitness people that grow their Instagram by just putting very –
There's dudes too.
There's guys that I follow that are just like super jacked
And they're doing like one arm chin ups and shit
You follow?
Flips, yeah, follow our fitness dudes
Settle down man, I'm comfortable
They're always in a gym where they can work out shirtless
Everyone's shirtless
But they're doing impressive shit
There's like a bunch of them that I follow
Okay, what were you saying?
You got my point, you made me nervous
If they can promote their posts man they'll reach all these extra people their
their thing will grow their business will grow i'm a fan of that i'm a fan of that what i'm not
a fan of what i have a question about is is there some buddy in charge of what's what's permissible
and what's not according to a certain code of conduct,
and do they have a political agenda?
So in other words, if I put out something that has profanity,
or maybe a stand-up clip where I want to get people in,
it's a clip that is offensive to said person whose responsibility it is.
Yeah.
They can go, no.
And who's stopping them from doing that?
Who is stopping them?
But see, with the dudes with their shirts off, flex and shit,
when they're trying to get clients, that's fine.
And they can promote, reach other people outside their followers is what it should be.
But if you have 100,000 followers, it should reach all 100,000 that you built.
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
That's what's crazy to me.
Yeah, they're going to lose everybody.
There's going to be a new Instagram if they start doing that shit and it gets out of hand.
People just leave.
Well, you know what shadow banning is, right?
No.
There's a concept of shadow banning and i don't know if this is jamie would be able to speak to this better
than me has that ever been proved that they actually do shadow ban people what's that or is
it it's they the term has been used is that if you say we're on twitter and maybe you were
conservative and you said a lot of rude things about
liberals that maybe they would decide
that although it doesn't violate the terms of
service, what you do is it makes them
uncomfortable. They make a moral judgment
and they decide to limit your engagement
with other people. That's what I'm talking about.
This is somehow possible.
But if there's a hater, is that like a hater?
In what you're saying
with the paying of posts too,
it happens similarly there too.
If you were an account that never paid,
and once you pay, once you give them five bucks,
you're like flagged now as an account that will pay
and it changes your engagement.
We're talking about Twitter.
Twitter you don't pay.
Across the board.
Yeah, you can pay on Twitter too.
How do you pay on Twitter?
Do you pay on Twitter?
You don't have to, but there are brands that pay.
There's an option that you can pay?
Yeah, promoted tweets.
Promoted?
What?
Really?
Promoted tweets.
The top trending topic for the last year or two is a paid, it says paid or promoted.
Really?
Yeah.
You just have to-
All of them are going to it because they get money now.
That's how they're-
Well, who's been banned from Twitter?
A lot of people, man.
Really?
Your boy.
A lot of people.
Alex Jones. Alex Jones is the most famous, probably. Who gets banned? Owen Benjamin's been banned from Twitter? A lot of people, man. Really? Your boy. Alex Jones.
Alex Jones is the most famous, probably.
Who gets banned?
Owen Benjamin's been banned from Twitter.
He has?
Who gets banned more, conservatives or liberals?
Conservatives.
But liberals get banned, too.
There's liberals that have put out death threats.
They've been banned.
But in general, though.
In general.
Yeah, they should be.
Is it lopsided?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
We should find out.
What is the criteria for being banned? That's a good question. We should find out. What is the criteria for being banned?
That's a good question, too.
Is it to incite violence or is it?
They violate their terms of service.
And definitely if you incite violence, that's definitely a no-no.
Racial slurs are a no-no.
Racist.
I don't think it is.
You can call someone a fuckhead, but you can't call them like a a guinea fuckhead yeah yeah there's like there's certain things you can say and
certain things you can't say but it's a lot of it's subjective yeah but then some of it's pretty
black and white like if you're like man i want to go if someone should blow up that fucking school
yeah of course of course or the racist stuff yeah yes all of that i think you got to regulate the
hate too if it's just bullying and shit like that.
Yeah.
I mean, just ban them.
Well, it's like, here's the question.
And this is, who gets to decide what's hateful and what's not?
And the problem is they keep pushing it further and further and further.
And then even just insults are hateful.
Even like, this guy is a dumbass.
That's hateful.
Saying someone's a dumbass is hateful.
I mean, there's only so far you can keep going down that road.
Right.
You want to make sure that you have free expression.
You don't get free expression if you ban people from saying things that just don't seem that bad to me.
What about Alex Jones?
You think his banning was...
I'd like to see what he said.
The Sandy Hook stuff is tough, man.
But here's the thing.
He's getting sued for that anyway.
Here's the thing.
Yeah, he was already getting sued for that.
Like, what did he say that got him...
I think something happened that he did
had nothing to do with even what he said.
He confronted them at some event, right?
And he was yelling in the back and disrupting...
Yeah, the final event happened
after he confronted people in Congress.
Well, he's got,
Alex Jones has a regular on,
a former CIA officer,
Dr. Steve Pchenik.
He has him on like once every six months.
That's where he got the Sandy Hook information
was from him.
That dude is on video.
How the fuck does a CIA guy know about Sandy Hook?
The fuck would he know
that's the dumbest fucking thing that alex jones has ever done it's also immoral and
that's what that guy was saying i don't know what dr steve pachinik was saying fuck that guy
fuck steve whatever if he said it didn't fuck him too yeah you have to always wonder and you would
you i mean i'm not making any accusations but you'd have to always wonder when you hear a story
like that,
why would someone say something so ridiculous,
and why would someone try to convince someone like Alex Jones of something so ridiculous?
And I think there'd be two reasons.
One, to discredit Jones.
If you could talk him into repeating what you said, if you think he's willing to do that,
you can easily discredit him, and it would be a really good way to do it like the best way to do it that's what i'm saying whether he's right or wrong but whether he's right or wrong dr steve pachenik said it several times on a show
so but he's not alex for but alex to believe him no it's not that crazy he's hearing it from a guy
who was in the cia it started like this it's not that crazy for him to believe in a guy from you know he may or may not be right but it started with alex actually
saying uh he said unfortunately he goes something to the effect of i saw it it was very sad and then
but unfortunately i've seen a lot of soap operas i've seen a lot of and and and i know an actor
when i see one and that's where it started with him.
Did he really say it that way?
Yes.
And he's being sued by a law firm in Connecticut.
Maybe he can get work in Hollywood.
He's in trouble.
It seems like he'd be a good acting coach.
Yeah.
But remember.
If he really knows an actor, he sees it.
Wasn't he in court and they said, what the fuck, basically, what the fuck are you doing?
He goes, listen, I say a lot of things just for entertainment.
Of course.
Like it's just for the bullshit.
But during his trial with his wife, he's like, I don't follow it too much.
But he did admit, he's like, I don't believe it.
A lot of it I just say.
He's got a business.
Yeah.
Well, the thing about a lot of nutrition people, a lot of these people, is you make money.
You make money in this business, whatever it is, whether it's being a political pundit,
whether it's being an exercise guy, you make money having answers.
If you're somebody who's more scientific and says, I don't know, it depends, maybe,
you're not going to make money.
When you say bone broth cures cancer, you're going to sell books.
When you say my plant-based diet is proven to do blah, blah, blah, whatever, you're going
to make money.
If you say, I'll help you lose weight and keep it off in four months. Take my money.
You're not going to say, hey,
I'm a nutritionist guy. It's going to take you
two years. We're going to try to change life. You're going to have
bounce backs. You're going to have plateaus. Same being realistic?
Yeah, nobody's going to buy that shit.
This Yadong guy has good movement, man.
So, but with
Alex Jones, is
he banned for life or
does he not have a business?
He still has his website.
He's got a big lawsuit he's got to worry about.
They got rid of his show?
What happened to all the followers and shit?
No, the only thing that happened is they pulled him off of YouTube
and they pulled him off of Twitter
and they pulled him off of Facebook too.
And iTunes.
And he's got a major lawsuit with a law firm that doesn't
compromise.
Well, there's two guys that are being sued over that.
Alex Jones and a guy named Wolfgang Helbig.
He's also being sued.
That guy, his job was to prepare schools for school shootings.
So he came out and he started saying that, too.
So he's breaking apart Sandy Hook. Wait, he started saying that too so he's he's breaking apart sandy wait
he started saying that he's getting sued yeah he's getting he's getting sued along with alex
jones oh my god well um but they didn't show up for when he went to court they never showed up
so they dropped the case what about one thing about the law law it's kind of weird no they
haven't dropped the case against alex jones what are showing them. Why would Sandy Hook be fake?
Let's not talk about this stuff.
Oh, I don't know, man. I find it fascinating.
Well, you know.
Why in the world would it be fake, though, B?
I know you get right up with it.
Like, what's the conspiracy theory?
I have zero, zero thoughts that it's fake.
But I do have thoughts on why someone would try to get other people to say it's fake.
And if there's anything that's ever going to convince you that conspiracy
theories are stupid it's making up a fake conspiracy an easily provable fake conspiracy
about a real tragedy that's a nice simple psychological way to discredit people if i
thought you were a dumbass but you had a big voice i might talk you into saying some shit
about something
that's not real and have you convinced it's real
so you spout it out and you look like a moron.
And that discredits everything else you say.
And you have to be really careful with a lot of these
stories. There's a lot of these
conspiracy theories that literally start out
a joke. They start out in 4chan
and a lot of these chat rooms
as trolls and then before you know
it, it becomes a real thing. It's said over and over again and then morons get a lot of these chat rooms as trolls and then before you know it, it becomes a real thing.
It's said over and over again
and then morons get a hold of it and start trying to
prove it's true.
He's a smart dude.
I don't agree. What do you mean smart?
I don't know.
To do what he's doing, listen, I don't agree with a lot of stuff.
He's a smart guy.
Have you met him?
You would not say he's a dumb person.
I don't know.
He's pretty articulate. He's not know. I don't listen to him, so I can't speak to him.
He's pretty articulate.
He's not stupid.
I'm very, very sad that he said that Sandy Hook isn't real.
Me too.
Can't fuck with him.
But I always enjoy being around that guy.
You would say he's an articulate, smart guy, right?
He's a fun guy, too.
Yeah.
So I'm just saying, for him to...
It's not like you can just honeydick him, like, dude, Sandy Hook.
It would have to be something.
He loves conspiracies, man.
He really does.
And this is the problem with someone who hunts out conspiracies.
You're going to love them.
You're going to look for them.
It's like numerology.
Numerology and the Bible.
You can find any pattern.
This is the problem is when you have a vested interest in them being real.
When it's your business.
Because there are a lot of them that are real.
So the problem is, if you have a vested interest
in them being real, and you exclude
information that would point to them not being
real, and you use confirmation
bias, and you fuck up, and then you try to
convince other people that you're correct.
This is something that people will fall into
when it comes to conspiracy theories.
Eddie, I'd love to hear you on it. You're super quiet about all this.
But if you're a conspiracy theory, which ones have been proven correct?
Not that many, right?
There's plenty.
Sure.
But I'm saying like absolutely.
There's big ones like Enron.
There's big ones.
There's big ones.
There's many documentaries and books have been written on the Enron conspiracy.
These guys got together and they figured out how to make a kajillion dollars and fuck
people over.
It was breaking the law.
They knew it was breaking the law. They conspired
to do it.
There's wise people
to think the 2008 housing crisis
that that was all on
purpose. These guys built this bubble up
and sank it. Is any of that proven though?
It's not proven.
The housing bubble was, there have been great books written on the housing bubble michael lewis's book the big short's a good book on it good couple other books yeah
but but you know there's been a lot of research on that too many bankers is there any proven ones
you're so quiet during all this it all it all depends brennan just wants to get no no no i know
it all depends on how much circumstantial evidence makes you throw up some red flags.
Some people, they just don't see the red flags.
And some people, their red flags go up right away.
So it all depends.
When you say, is there any proof?
Well, you don't need...
I mean, at a certain point, when you have circumstantial evidence, at a certain point...
It adds up.
You know, if one piece of...
JFK is pretty suspect.
JFK is suspect as fuck.
Super suspect.
Look, JFK is a perfect example, right?
There's no actual proof of the conspiracy that there was multiple you know multiple shooters or or the cia and the mob there's
no actual proof but there's a lot of circumstantial evidence so it all depends on it all depends on
how much circumstantial evidence do you need for any particular conspiracy theory where you go oh
shit there's enough circumstantial evidence like if there was a murder right and you were being
accused and only one person said you know i saw brendan like four blocks away from the restaurant where his friend
was killed if just that one person saw you that's one piece of circumstantial evidence that's not
enough to convict you but if a hundred people said they saw you two blocks away in the parking lot
none of it alone none of it standing alone will put you in jail but at a certain point
enough circumstantial evidence will put dudes in jail but at a certain point enough circumstantial evidence will put
dudes in jail. Or if enough people tell
the same story about you like with
Cosby it was the same story over and over
it's like not all these women can't be
they're all telling the exact same story about the same
MOU. Michael Jackson too. Well not only that
Cosby had gone to court and had a
lawsuit sealed and paid a woman off
it had already been
in Susan's part. Yeah he did a deposition.
So this was a part of the whole thing was was that he had to come out and, you know,
they had to defend that in his most recent trial.
Bill Clinton, too.
I just got done watching those Monica Lewinsky tapes.
Bill Clinton was a freak.
Oh, yeah.
Dude.
You know, the other problem with, like, being a...
But, like, someone like Alex Jones, who makes a lot of money off his conspiracies and things,
is that once he says something... I know a pretty good friend of his, Alex.
The problem is once you say something and you have that big of a following, right?
So let's just say you float out a conspiracy.
But then you look at evidence and you start to realize, maybe I overstepped my bounds.
We all say things we wish we hadn't or we all say things.
But now you've got a whole movement behind what you said.
Now to try to pull back would turn that 25% of whoever it is against you,
and that can be a liability too.
So one of the things about being a public figure is you can say something,
and if you're selling product and selling your show on that,
you better be all in, you better stay all in.
So you become a prisoner to your own kind of first impulse
or your own first sort of like—
No matter how outlandish it is.
Especially if he's also an entertainer.
It's also this rush to say you know something when you don't know it.
There's a rush to say.
There's a rush to say we absolutely know this happened.
We absolutely know that happened.
Because it's good entertainment.
But he's getting it from somewhere, right?
It's good entertainment.
There's something to it.
Alex is getting it from somewhere.
He has his sources for sure.
He's probably got multiple sources.
Information on these tragic events
or something like that.
Or you don't think so, B?
I'm just looking at you, Brendan.
Listen, I think he has some people to tell him.
Fucking troublemaker.
No, I'm not.
Don't take the bait.
You know what, Eddie?
He's floating a fucking huge worm out there for you.
Hey, listen.
Eddie, stay away from the worm.
I strategically come on this show
and try not to talk about
conspiracy theories, but I always get
sucked back into them.
I always get sucked back into them.
He's floating that worm.
Look, they're legit questions.
I don't know shit about conspiracies.
You're asking super crazy legit questions.
You're asking
questions that someone with one eye open has.
Don't take the fucking word, Eddie.
You're kind of like, hey, I'm not bringing up conspiracy theories.
I'm not bringing up conspiracy theories.
I hear you, bro.
Let's talk about titties.
Say no more, man.
You know what?
I was biting my tongue just like...
But I'm not asking you to go down the crazy, you know, and tell us the conspiracy.
I'm just saying, how do you get there?
You know what I'm saying?
You can't help yourself.
But he has his black belt in conspiracy theories.
Brian, you know, he just never...
Brian didn't say that there are no black belts in conspiracy theories.
Alex Jones says, hold my beer.
That was quick.
All right, now that the cuck's gone,
where were we?
What is this?
Rafael dos Anjos,
Kamaru Usman.
Ooh, I love this.
Ooh, that's a good fight.
I love this.
Usman's been gone for a hot second, right?
It was his last one,
Damian Maia?
I believe so.
I believe so.
And that was a bad one, man.
I did not like the way
they pulled him off of Maya's back.
That made me angry.
Yeah, Maya had that.
He was standing up, had one lap wrapped around.
The referee separated them.
And I was like, what are you doing?
Do you know how hard it is for him to get to that position?
Oh, and he's the best grappler on the fucking planet.
What are you doing?
He has his back.
He's in a really good spot.
They're both pretty dry.
Trying to drain his energy.
Yeah.
Some bullshit.
Bullshit.
Poor Damien Maia.
Well, it's fucked up, man.
It's like that is fighting.
Okay?
He's fighting right now.
Just because it's not exciting enough.
Give me blood.
Give me blood.
Show me blood.
No, they're fighting.
You fuck.
This is what they're doing.
I mean, people that freak out about it.
Like, you gotta...
Just because it's so exciting when it's good,
they want it to be exciting all the time.
But it can't be.
There's going to be fights where, to fight correctly,
they have to fight in a way that's not as entertaining.
It's not as entertaining, but it's the right way to fight.
But you can't, like, not fight the right way.
You can't not fight the right way. Exactly. You can't not fight the right way just because it's more interesting for people that don't understand what's happening.
No, you become a 500 fighter.
You win one, lose one, win one.
You take punishment.
You should take.
It's just not the way to fight.
You never get the belt ever.
Ever.
Or if you do, you don't keep it.
It's very rare.
Usman's a beast, man.
He's a tough, tough man.
Super strong guy.
Phenomenal wrestling, too. Is know fighting today no i wish no he's fighting dos anjos though that's a great
fight it's heavy man that's a heavy fight 70 just became a fucking beef yeah but he didn't look that
good against um uh our boy colby covington no col, Colby put on that pressure, that crazy pace.
Colby beat his ass.
But now they announced Colby Woodley.
Of course.
They have to have that.
That's the fight.
I know Woodley doesn't want to have it
because he's probably angry at the dude.
Dude, I wish they would have done Colby Ben Askren.
You're going to see angry Tyron Woodley
versus Colby Covington.
That's going to be very interesting.
Angry, I want to fuck you up, Tyron Woodley. Woodley Covington. That's going to be very interesting. Angry, I want to fuck you up, Tyron Woodley.
Woodley's a nightmare.
Nightmare.
Dude, think about the fucking guys he's fought recently,
whether it's Darren Till or Thompson.
Both guys known to be really high-level strikers.
He dropped both those guys.
They didn't hit him.
Damian Maia, perfect game plan.
Thompson tagged him a few times. He hit him with some decent shots, but not the way didn't hit him. Damian Maia, perfect game plan. Thompson tagged him a few times.
He hit him with some decent shots, but
not the way Tyron hit him.
Tyron fucked him up in both fights.
Do you think about it? He dropped Thompson in both fights, and then
Darren Tilley knocked out.
He dropped him, and then he choked him out.
Fucking rocked him, yeah. Yeah, he dropped him, and then he
darsed him, remember? Yes.
Oh, that's right. And he didn't even know what was coming.
It was so weird.
He probably had been rattled by all those punches and elbows and shit on the ground, too.
And he got dropped by a super clean punch.
Beautiful counter right.
What is this?
Do you know there's a fight for like nine weeks in a row?
Which I'm not mad at at all.
Look at this weird.
TBD, TBD.
Oh, no, because the heavyweights.
The tough heavyweight final.
Oh. I've been watching tough heavyweights.
It's actually not bad.
And a tough woman's featherweight final.
This is the last tough?
Is tough over?
No.
No, they're going to fucking strike it back up.
Wait a minute.
For a second there, they were thinking it was the last season, right?
Well, when you say really well, Dana said it makes money.
Dana says it does really well.
No one's watching it.
I don't know if that's true. How dare you, John? Well, when you say really well, Dana said it makes money. Dana says it does really well. No one's watching it.
I don't know if that's true.
How dare you, John? Because of those, it's hard to tell when someone just watches something in the moment, right?
Like when they have ratings.
Because almost everybody DVR shit now.
Especially when you talk about cable shows.
This is a fact.
When they're talking about the numbers that they get, that shit is voodoo.
All right?
If you get a number, like say if you put up a YouTube video and it gets a million hits,
that's a million hits.
We know for a fact it's a million.
That's a fact.
That's a million hits.
We don't know how many people it is because some people will watch it five or six times.
But that's still a million.
Shout out to those people.
When they're doing like Nielsen ratings, shit, that's voodoo.
Dude, low numbers, low numbers.
They don't.
It's low.
Yeah, but they don't know.
They don't know what it means.
Game of Thrones, we know that shit.
Now he has DVRs.
Now what they do is, because I know this from my show,
now what they do is they will do Nielsen,
but then they look at, like, three days.
Do you watch it in three days?
Do you watch it in seven days?
You know, they have all these different metrics.
And is the metric still coming from them having to fill out forms,
or is it something more?
No, it's more technologically based now.
But it's still not, you know, you're still dealing with a number.
You know what's weird?
Netflix doesn't tell you shit.
I find that so strange.
They don't tell you nothing.
They don't want to give you the power.
How fucked up is that?
Because if, let's say, 30 million people watch your special, they're like, hey, man, we're just going to run it back the same thing as last year.
And you're like, what? Because you could go and renegotiate and but they're very generous yeah
maybe they're very generous i'm telling you they're very generous no i know they paid you
well but i pay everybody well when did they start allowing nudity on youtube is that new or is it
real real what's important on youtube what are you what are you watching? Are you talking about Red 2?
You're talking about Red 2.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about YouTube.
Motherfuckers watching you porn.
Thank you for watching YouTube.
Type in hot naked chicks.
Really?
You're about to get a virus.
On YouTube?
On YouTube.
Fuck off my account.
On YouTube?
Seriously?
No way, dude.
I'm telling you, man.
You can watch naked chicks on YouTube?
Hey, it's legal now.
Come on.
I don't think so, Eddie.
Where did you see this?
The other day.
I'm on YouTube.
I'm like, hot naked chicks.
I wanted to see if people...
How much can you see?
Are you saying...
I just tested it out.
I'm like, I wonder if porn is making it onto YouTube.
And I went, hot naked chicks.
And there are videos of naked girls. I'm doing it right now.
Seriously. Isn't that weird that
we'll make a distinction
between topless or bottomless?
Topless, yeah, it's kind of racy.
But bottomless, oh God.
You're showing pussy.
What are you doing?
Is everybody here going to the Tyson Fury fight?
I gotta work.
Is that the one in December 1st? Yeah, Staples Center. Next Saturday. Tyson Fury fucking? I gotta work. I'm not. Is that the one in December 1st?
Yeah, Staples Center.
Isn't that in LA?
Tyson Fury fucking Wilder.
I'm gonna watch that from the comfort of my own home, sir.
That's the way to go in life.
Feed up.
Really?
Feed up.
Perhaps cocktail.
This is how I'm gonna watch it.
And then if I have to poop, I'm gonna pause it.
What?
Yeah, and I'm not gonna look at my phone.
Shoot your pants.
So I'm not gonna have any idea what happened.
Let's do it at Joe's house.
Dude, I'm working. I'm in New York. Are you going? So I'm not going to have any idea what happened. Let's do it at Joe's house. Dude, I'm working.
I'm in New York.
Are you going?
You can come over to my house, Brian.
Can you get me tickets?
I can get you tickets, I'm sure.
All right.
Do you really want to go there in person?
Brian needs tickets.
I need two tickets.
You really want to go there in person?
Maybe.
I don't know.
It seems like a lot of people.
I'd rather watch it on a huge TV.
Yes.
That's what I'm saying.
That's all I like to do.
You know what YouTube is doing? That's awesome.
Now,
anytime you punch in,
like,
um,
like if you punch in moon hoax,
like if you want to watch a conspiracy theory video on the moon hoax,
they're going to put a link right on,
right under it.
Boom.
That takes you to the Wikipedia of,
uh,
of the Apollo landings.
Like all the,
Oh,
that's cool.
Yeah.
Just the,
they're basically debunking the conspiracy theory video right there for you.
I'm watching Hot Naked Chicks on YouTube.
Let's see if it happens.
What do you got?
Okay, just a photo shoot.
Fast forward a little bit.
Yeah, dude.
Uh-oh.
Look at that.
Did you see that?
What's that?
Damn it.
Did you see that?
Jacking off to YouTube. Right? Look at that. What the hell? I that Damn it Did you see that Jacking off to YouTube
Right look at that
What the hell
Whoa
She's got a bra now
But wait
I saw tits
She has some big ass titties
Hold on
Come on bro
Look at that
Damn look at those houses
What the hell
If men can take their shirts off
Why can't women
I guess they can dude
You won't see
You won't see genitalia though
No you will
In San Francisco You will Eddie says just wait a time genitalia though No you will In San Francisco
You will
Eddie says just wait
Oh you mean in time
Do you know what the rule is
In San Francisco
You can walk around
What
Look at that
You guys didn't know this
No bro
Wait a minute
You can see
Look at that
Naked vaginas
Yeah look
I get your bush out of my face
You know in San Francisco
You can walk around naked
But you know what the rule is
If you're a man
Can't touch people
Can't get hard
What's the what
Yeah can't get hard Dude what if the what? Yeah, can't get hard.
Dude, what if the breeze kicks in?
Hey, bro.
Tough shit.
That's intense or something.
You can be naked, just don't have a hard on.
Dude, what is this?
This is crazy.
This is weird.
Eddie, how'd you find out about this?
Dude, I just thought, I just punched in the other day.
Just going, hmm, let me see what happens.
Really?
I was just checking.
Why would you do that?
I was just checking it.
Because he's, you know.
Now I'm doing it.
He's a scientist, bro. Wow. Dude. I was just checking it Now I'm doing it
He's a scientist bro
Wow
This is doing research bro
Now what am I doing?
That's crazy
Isn't that crazy?
How about them putting the debunker videos
On conspiracy
Like if you put a punch in moon hoax
Right now
Right under the video But if I punch in moon hoax right now. It'll have a link at the bottom of it. Right under the video.
Wow.
Right under the video.
But if I type in moon landing, does it send me some hoax too?
No, no, it doesn't.
It doesn't do that.
No, no, no, no.
That would be even.
Yeah.
Look at Alistair Overeem.
Uh-oh.
You know, he changed camps.
He's at elevation in Denver, Colorado.
Christian Allen, Cody Donovan.
He looks good.
Like the way he looks physically there, he looksovan. He looks good. Like the way he looks
physically there,
he looks good.
He does look good.
A lot of heavy wrestling there.
It's so funny.
Even though he looks great,
like you look at him right now,
you go, damn, he looks great.
The problem with him
is you always judge him
against what he looked like
when he came in
and he fought Brock.
Oh, dude.
When he was Uber Eam,
when he was the K-1
Grand Prix champion.
Uber Eam, the best.
Dude, when he was Uber Eam, he was a special thing.
Like, he was a special thing.
No one wanted to fight him.
No.
Kane beat that guy.
Yes.
Kane beat the Uber Eam.
Am I going crazy right now?
Kane?
Kane beat him.
Did Uber Eam ever fight Bata Hari?
Am I going fucking nuts?
Or am I thinking of Brock Lesnar?
You're thinking of Brock Lesnar.
Yeah. Brock Lesnar beat the shit out of him. Kane didn't fight Uber Eam ever. Badr Hari? Am I going fucking nuts? Or am I thinking of Brock Lesnar? You're thinking of Brock Lesnar.
Brock Lesnar beat the shit out of him.
Kane didn't fight Uber Eats ever.
No, he didn't.
He beat Brock.
Yeah.
I'm thinking of Brock. Dude, he smashed Brock.
Did he ever fight Badr Hari?
Yes.
He did?
He knocked Badr Hari out with a left hook, and Badr Hari stopped him in the rematch.
Badr Hari, yes.
Badr Hari stopped him.
Yeah, Badr Hari stopped him in the rematch in the first fight with Badr Hari.
I think the story was That Bahdari was not
Training very much
Has he retired?
Bahdari?
No
No he just fought recently
He was in jail
He fought Regal Berhulvin
And broke his arm
He's not trying to do MMA though right?
Did he go to jail?
He fought one MMA fight
I believe Bahdari did
He needs some anger management
Yeah
Why'd he go to jail?
He's gone to jail a couple times
For fucking
Beating the shit out of people
Putting them hands on motherfuckers Damn Bahdari's so scary He's in your hands, right? Yeah. Why'd he go to jail? He's gone to jail a couple times. For fucking beating the shit out of people?
Putting them hands on motherfuckers. Damn.
Butterhart, he's so scary.
He's a mean dude.
He's a knockout artist, too.
Oh, dude, yeah, you don't want to fuck with that guy.
He's a knockout.
Horrible temper.
Yeah.
Horrible temper.
Yeah.
Really?
But it pays off in fighting.
He's got some amazing fights on his highlight reel.
Dude, how about your first fight in the UFC, this Russian dude?
Obviously, he's a champ in this Russian organization.
And they're like, hey, you got to call the UFC.
Cool, who am I fighting?
Alistair Overeem.
Like, God damn.
Can I ask you a question?
Can I get a warm-up?
How many times has he been knocked out?
150.
For real?
Like, this is getting really bad.
Every time I see him.
It isn't, it isn't.
Because he wins, and he's at heavyweight.
That guy used to fight.
But we just accept the fact.
That's that Polish guy, right?
Is that Krzysztof Szczynski?
No, it's John Sharp.
Oh, okay, sorry.
He looks like him, though.
That's Jeff Munson.
Szczynski, he had fucking tattoos everywhere, still does.
That guy's white as shit.
He's a white guy.
He's Russian, bro.
Man, he's white.
White that blends with snow.
So when you're looking at him, even though he does look great,
you compare his looking great to what he looked like when he was Ubering. Dude, he looks fucking good White that blends with snow. So when you're looking at Overeem, even though he does look great, you compare his looking
great to what he looked like when he was Ubering.
Dude, he looks fucking good, though.
Oh, yeah.
He looks great.
But not a version of Ubering yet.
Yeah.
But if he like-
No, he used to be a fucking 911 GTS 3RS, and now he's just a regular 911.
Yeah.
That's a good way of putting it.
That's a good way of putting it.
He's still cool, but-
Yeah.
Now he's like a Carrera.
Yeah.
Targa.
How old is he now he's getting
up there he's 38 yeah he's getting up there god he's and he's been fighting forever yeah well
skilled heavyweight striking oh super skilled still fuck yeah he's highly skilled dude highly
skilled k1 champ that's what um cowboy serrani said that Cerrone said. Sparring with him is such a joy because he's so technical.
Yeah, you can tell.
He's so good.
Oh, shit.
Watch out for that.
I mean, he's won more than he's shared.
He's lost a bunch, too.
But he's one of the best strikers to ever fight in MMA.
Ever, man.
I'm going with Pavlovich on this fight.
I'm taking my over.
Damn, he's already hurt.
Yeah, he's going to.
I'm impressed with this striker.
What do you think?
You think he's hurt? Did that kind of ring his bell? No. No, I mean, he's already hurt. Yeah, he's going to... I'm impressed with this strike. What do you think? You think he's hurt?
Did that ring his bell?
No.
No, I mean, he got hit, but when he's hurt, you know it.
It doesn't take much with Govering because he's been hit so many...
Yeah.
He's been put out so many times.
He's fighting Sparta now.
He's still taking it pretty good, though.
He's such a technician, man.
Oh, he took an overcut.
He got clipped there.
An uppercut.
He just doesn't take shots as well as he did when he was Ubering, too, because of the size
of his neck.
His neck and his traps.
He used to have these built-in shock absorbers all around his head.
Yeah, isn't glass jaw syndrome real, though, where your body shuts down?
It's your brain.
It's from so much trauma.
So as soon as he sees trauma, it shuts off.
No, we're not doing this anymore.
It's really not your thing.
It's the nasty need of the body.
It's your brain, not your chin.
Alistair's got some fucking knees, man.
Damn.
Ouch.
Definitely the best knees in the heavyweight division.
The best knees.
For sure.
He shattered a dude's skull.
For sure.
You hear about that guy that got knocked out?
I don't know how he got knocked out, but it was on the news that he had a severe concussion.
Maybe he was in a coma.
And he wakes up, and he's super smart. He knows all this. He's a genius now. That Maybe he was in a coma. And he wakes up and he's super smart.
He knows all this.
Like he's a genius now.
That's the guy who got struck by lightning.
Is his name Brendan Jones?
That's Brian Cowell's story.
The guy who got struck by lightning that Oliver Sacks studied.
No, no.
This guy got knocked out.
You guys are thinking of a John Travolta movie.
It's embarrassing.
No, Oliver Sacks studied a guy.
The guy who got struck by lightning who became obsessed with piano and became a concert pianist.
Isn't that Potter?
Really?
No, it's a true true story Oliver Sacks studied it
but there's also someone
who got fucked
either lightning
or had a horrible concussion
woke up just floating
in Chinese
oh shit
okay so it happens
so yeah
that shit happens
yeah but it's one of those
things where you hear about it
and you go wait a minute
wait a minute
never met him though
I mean read this story
no I think it's bullshit
you think those stories
are bullshit
I think there's some people
that definitely get struck by lightning,
and then all of a sudden they're good at math.
What if it's true?
What if we find out?
What if we find out?
It turns out that the more you get knocked out, the smarter you get.
That's what happened to me.
How cool would kickboxing training be, right?
How cool would kickboxing training be, right? How cool would kickboxing training be, right?
You go and knock 10 people out.
People would just rather be stupid.
But then you'd get to knock people out on a daily basis.
Ground and pound.
The thing about it, he's been working with Curtis Blades,
so I'm assuming he's been working this a shitload.
What I think is really cool is when a mathematician works on a crazy math problem his whole life,
it bears no relevance to the physical world.
Then 100 years later, they're using it to put a rover on Mars or something.
It has relevance 100 years later.
Overeem on top.
Nasty ground and pound, man.
Dude, that just hit me.
I'm a little high.
Do you remember when?
Do you remember when?
Of course we don't.
Did you see that fucking missionary, the Christian missionary?
Went to that island in India and still a Satan island.
And he's like, no, I'm going to give the word of Jesus.
I love you and Jesus loves you too.
And they're like, huh?
And then killed him instantly.
I think he got shot through the Bible.
What is Satan island?
Is that what you said?
Something like.
Sentinel.
I call it Sentinel island.
North Sentinel island.
They left Africa 60,000 years ago, and they've been living on this island.
And what's interesting is this guy...
They're all Satan.
I tweeted it on my page.
There's a guy...
Uh-oh.
Oh, Overeem finished him off.
Oh, this fight's over.
Powerful.
Fuck yeah.
Shout out to Overeem.
Fight's over.
Powerful Overeem.
I always root for Overeem now.
Always.
Look at the back on that motherfucker.
Still doing it, man.
38.
Still doing it.
Still doing it.
Right there, too.
One more win, and he's a title shot. He's always that guy. Still doing it, man. 38. Still doing it. Still doing it. Right there, too. One more win and he's a title shot.
He's always that guy.
Dallas Grover.
Well, he's definitely in the hunt for it.
I mean, look.
When he fought Stipe, remember when he hurt Stipe?
Yeah.
It's just as possible that he could have stopped.
Then he tapped him, remember?
Yeah, yeah.
And they're like, Joe, let's bring that up.
And they're like, well, maybe not there.
Well, that was when I decided not to interview people that have been KO'd.
I'm just like, it's not fair. They, that was when I decided not to interview people that have been KO'd. It's not fair.
They have a false memory.
Like, he just got knocked out by Stipe Miocic.
Dude, I wouldn't mind seeing him versus Francis again.
Are you crazy, son?
I don't want to see that again.
I don't want to see anybody get hit like that again.
If I go through the rest of my days.
What were we talking about?
The Satan guy?
Satan Island
Oh, Sentinel
North Sentinel
So here's what's crazy
They used to be
They used to be
Sort of uncontacted
But they got contacted
In the 1800s
By this guy
Aleister Crowley
Now this is a guy
On Twitter
Posted this amazing review
Of all this stuff
His name is
Respectable Law
On Twitter so he posted
this really long detailed history of what happened to these people and a guy named maurice vital
vidal portman and this guy uh apparently stayed on the island for a long time and people got sick
because of these people being there yeah they, they don't have any virus.
They have no, well, they have no
immunity to what we
but he measured their dick sizes
and he measured their ball sizes. He made them
pose in all these weird ways. Like, it's
really freaky shit, but really
really interesting.
Like, look at these measuring the children
and stuff. Like, he treated them like
moths and stuff, but talked treated them like moths and stuff.
But talked about them, like, in really weird sexual terms.
And this guy, it was such a bad experience for those people that...
They thought they were the devil.
And it was, like, a hundred years ago.
So when people go back now, they immediately kill them.
So because of this one dickwad that landed there a hundred years ago,
they think of white people as evil.
So these two fishermen fell asleep.
And I want to say it was like 2006.
They fell asleep in their boat drifting onto the island.
They woke up.
They just fucking hatcheted them and arrowed them and killed them on the beach.
They don't fuck around anymore.
Bad luck.
If you think about it.
Because of this one asshole.
If you think about it, it's really smart in a fucked up way.
Because if they come into contact with one of us, their entire population could be wiped out because they don't have immunity.
But they're Satanists, right?
No.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Are you sure?
100%.
Because that's why Homeboy went there.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He just went there to convert them.
I heard this from Good Morning America.
No, no, no, no.
No, not Satanists.
Good Morning America said this.
North Sentinel Island.
Dude, I'm pretty sure the last full... Satanist island.
Here's the deal, Brendan.
Satanism.
They don't even...
Satan is a Western concept, sir.
They have no idea.
They just hate white people.
Oh, Wu Jing is there.
What?
They don't like foreign people.
Who's Wu Jing?
I don't know.
Probably an actor.
He has his name up there.
They just hate white people because that one dude came and fucked everything up.
And then you see a white person, kill them.
We don't even know their language.
So to say they're Satanists is crazy.
It's like saying that you understand what they're saying.
That's the rumor.
How big is the island?
How big is that island?
Maybe they have a translator.
Size of Manhattan.
Really?
No, they don't have a translator, Eddie.
They don't have any contact at all with the outside world.
What about that guy?
That guy was there.
It's illegal to go there.
No, that guy got killed. And he paid illegally to go there. What are they guy? That guy was there. It's illegal to go there. No, that guy got killed.
And he paid illegally to go there.
It's illegal to go to that island.
The fishermen got arrested.
So there was a cargo ship that ran aground there many years ago.
See, there it is in 1981.
And the crew radioed for assistance.
And then they got 50 men with bows and arrows were showing up to try to get to the boat.
And they helicoptered them away.
The boat is still there.
So this is a crazy-ass place, man.
Sounds like an awesome movie.
I know.
And then from that boat, they started getting metal tools.
Because they didn't have metal before that.
So until the 19, what was it, 1980?
It was 81, I think. Yeah, so now these people took pieces of metal and cold forged them into weapons and shit.
Like pounded them down with rocks and created knives and stuff.
Damn.
They're so old school.
They're essentially living the same way people lived 60,000 years ago.
They've been on this isolated island ever since then.
That's amazing.
We should just fly over and drop a ton of iPhones everywhere.
The problem is they don't know how many of them there are anymore,
but they know their populations are declining.
So at one point in time, there was 150 plus documented,
and now they think it might be as low as 39.
Because of disease and stuff, they don't have any fucking medicine.
They're probably bored of each other.
They stop fucking, you know, trying to get fish.
You don't have time to raise a kid.
Which one are you talking about?
The Sentinelese?
Yeah.
There's not many left.
Their populations are drastically dropping.
There's no genetic diversity either.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
I mean, with 39 folks, 39 folks is a small number.
Yeah.
If they're really down to that few.
And they're real, real aggressive when anybody comes anywhere near them.
But the thing is, now that we all know about it.
I mean, I'm a part of the problem, too, right?
We're all talking about this.
Now that we all know about it, more people are going to think about going there.
You think?
100%.
I hear that, and I say, fuck leaving the United States.
100%.
Where is that place?
Where is it?
India.
It's somewhere off of India.
Bay of Bengal. Bay of Bengal.
Bay of Bengal.
So it doesn't seem that remote if it's in a bay.
It's pretty far away.
No, it's far away.
It's hard to...
Literally, it's illegal.
It's like in the middle of the ocean.
It's illegal.
So Homeboy, who's doing God's work, was like, no, I can do it.
And even writing his journals, like, man, I hope I don't die.
If I do, my parents don't be mad at me.
I'm headed to this island.
Yeah.
What the fuck were you thinking, man?'s crazy he's trying to convert people he
thinks people need to speak the same language they don't have any idea what
he's saying like what he's from oral Roberts heart graduate from Oral Roberts
University right yeah see there that's where it is oh shit well shit way out
there and a half stars out of five someone's going there oh someone's fucking with it it's the internet 3 000 reviews
the internet's giving all these reviews the internet's undefeated
go ahead there go ahead man there's a sweet four seasons they have great food
it's called human they're gonna eat you oh god so they they uh killed the guy and then they buried him right on the beach
man they just dragged his body out to the beach and the indian government said we're not gonna
do anything about it like it was illegal what he did there that's all they know well yeah i mean
first of all they their law is you can't visit their island that's their law so he was violating
their law him showing up up with this book,
I would imagine they
have laws against people visiting.
Especially whites. Yeah, man.
That story that they tell
about that one English guy that went there,
that must be a piece of shit. He fucked up
for everybody. I hope that guy,
Respectable Law on Twitter,
understands how
much I appreciate that.
Oh, no, that was cool, yeah.
Because I thought they were all Satanists there.
Spelled it out.
You think a group of Navy SEALs could...
Oh, yeah, take them all out.
What?
Take them all out.
Two of them would kill each other.
With automatic weapons.
That'd be a pretty cool movie, right?
That'd be a cool movie.
It'd be a cool video game.
Massacre?
Genocide?
But you know what?
You never know.
I mean, they might have some crazy booby traps.
They might have some Viet Cong shit for it.
Genocide?
You know what I mean?
Big goal.
Look at the people right here.
Beautiful vacation spot.
No big deal, but a Starbucks and Burger King franchise.
Look at the first one.
I was working with the locals.
Went here with my girlfriend for a holiday.
I loved it.
She wasn't impressed.
Very poor choice for a romantic getaway.
Great choice for anyone looking to rough it
up a bit.
So silly.
People are so
funny. Well, that
island, though, is... There's got to be people
going. You know what I mean? Fuck no.
Undercover adventures. There's going to be
some dumbasses that try it.
Dan Bilzerian's going to be there next month with a bikini on.
Where is it? Off the coast of Africa?
He's going to just send a boatload of vape pens.
Hey, was that off the coast of Africa?
I was taking a piss.
India.
Off India.
Off India.
They have drone footage, right?
They came from Africa, though, 60,000 years ago.
You don't fly drones over that.
Closer to Thailand, it looks like.
No.
Closer to Thailand?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Pretty amazing stuff.
60,000.
How do they know that?
How would they figure that out if you're not allowed to go on the island?
But they've been around 60,000 years ago.
That's a good question.
I don't know.
60,000 years ago?
Well, it's like in Papua New Guinea, those tribes have been isolated for 40,000 years.
Yeah.
Still?
Yeah, not anymore.
But, I mean, when Jared Diamond went and studied them, they'd been isolated for that long.
They practiced weird things, too, like widow strangling and all long. They practiced weird things too like widow strangling
and all kinds of stuff.
What do you mean
widow strangling?
And that one tribe
where the young boys
suck the cocks
of the older men.
And take it in their ass
as well.
And to become men
so they take in the sperm.
That's just some weird
old game.
I started that.
Exactly.
Nah, man.
I read it.
But if you don't have
somebody to compete
with those ideas
then that gets passed down as religion. I gotta piss. But if you don't have somebody to compete with those ideas,
then that gets passed down as religion.
I got to piss.
Tell me who wins.
What?
Tell me who wins. I've never seen you take a pee break.
No.
Yeah, this is the first time ever.
There you go.
Go on with your little lilac shirt.
Francis Ngannou, boys.
I'm excited about this fight.
Looks jacked, as always.
Yeah.
It's a big fight for him, man, because remember, he beat him last time,
but he's coming off that steep-A ass-whooping,
and then had the horrible fight against Derek Lewis,
which was like the worst heavyweight fight of all time.
No one won that fight.
Obviously, Derek won that fight for the judges.
And then Derek goes on to fight Frick in D.C.
This is his first fight since then?
This is his first fight since Derek Lewis.
Oh, shit.
And I don't like it because obviously he struggles with wrestling.
So like, oh, here's Curtis Blaze, the best wrestler in the top five.
I just don't like it.
I wish they would have given him someone else who matched up better.
No matter if he wins or loses, I just don't think it was a great idea.
Is he from Chad?
Where is he from?
Ghana?
Chad?
The Congo. Is he from the Congo? Yeah, from? Ghana? Chad? Is he from the Congo?
Yeah, Congo.
Are you sure?
I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure, man.
I thought he was from more west.
I think it's the Congo.
Jamie?
Where is Ghana from?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Curtis Blades.
Francis Ngannou.
That's a French name, so it makes sense he's from the Congo.
I'm pretty sure it's Congo.
Francis Ngannou. Cameroon. Cameroon so it makes sense he's from the Congo. I'm pretty sure it's Congo. Francisingano.
Cameroon.
Cameroon.
Is that where he's from?
Yeah.
What's his wildcat's name?
Cameroon's one of the last places where there's sort of continuous habitat for different animals.
Oh, he's coming out to Mortal Kombat.
Woo!
Great tune.
Now they're fighting at 3.30 in the morning, our time.
So it's a bit of a time change.
Yeah, it's a good time.
Curtis Blades just always fights on foreign land.
When did they get there?
How many days do you need to adjust to that shit?
They had Thanksgiving over there, so I'm assuming they got...
Well, I'd imagine the UFC flies in on Tuesday like any other fight week, right? Dude, but I was... If you want to come early. It's hard to get used to sleeping over there, so I'm assuming they got... Well, I'd imagine the UFC flies in on Tuesday like any other fight week, right?
If you want to come early. It's hard to
get used to sleeping over there.
I can't imagine.
Can't you start here? Can't you just try
to take naps?
You can, but the sunset and all that fucks you up.
It fucks you up, man.
The best way they say it is to fast for like
16 hours and then eat
like when you get there in the morning, eat a breakfast and just get on the same eating.
So your body gets used to the eating cycle?
But fasting is really important apparently for getting.
Oh, that's what you did over there, right, B?
I tried.
You started doing work?
Yeah.
You're still tired.
Are you still thinking of moving to China?
I am.
I'm going to go to Beijing and live in an apartment.
Yeah.
Are you going to be a political dissident?
Yeah.
I'm going to march in Tiananmen Square.
When I went to Australia,
the time change
fucked me up.
I was exhausted.
Yeah.
It'll fuck you up.
Going there, I was fine.
Coming back,
I was so fucked up.
Yeah.
Isn't that weird
that it's going back
somehow or another
that does it to you?
Dude, I was tore up.
You know,
I need to try
taking melatonin
when I land,
when I need to go to bed that night.
Does it help?
I don't think so.
I think it helps.
You know what helps me?
CBD oil.
It helps me relax.
I take it in the morning, but especially at night, it helps me relax.
With THC or without?
Without.
The thing that seems to be able to reset my system better than anything is a serious fucking workout.
Like show up somewhere and do a serious workout.
Like to push your cardio, lift some weights, like really get tired. a serious fucking workout. Like show up somewhere and do a serious workout.
Like do you push your cardio, lift some weights, like really get tired.
And that seems to set me up.
I did that in Afghanistan because I was so fucking. I like how you said that.
Afghanistan.
When I was in Afghanistan, we worked out.
Me and Dove David have worked out like a motherfucker, and I did.
It helped me a lot.
I felt way better.
It puts your cycle back in check.
I was also afraid the whole time. Usually on the road, wherever I land, I work out. Right when I land, I'll work out and I did it helped me a lot I felt way better it puts your cycle back I was also afraid the whole time usually on the road
wherever I land I work out
right when I land I'll work out and I feel better
that's the move but there's a new scientific
study my brain's crisper like everything's
better this scientific study I'll find
it I have my phone yeah please
we're
fasting for 16 hours is
the most important thing you can do and then reset
a huge time change right resetting your clock with It's a huge time change that you're saying.
Right, resetting your clock with however they're eating there.
Because fuck fasting in New York.
Yeah.
I've heard that you should not eat on planes, too.
I've heard that you're better off just not eating on planes.
I'm so hungry on planes.
When you land, your body will be better off falling into this new time zone when you land
if you just don't eat on the plane.
I don't eat on planes.
You don't eat on planes ever?
I meditate.
I'm in the lotus position.
Dude, when they come by with that cart and they get that snack tray, they got nice cheeses
and fruits and shit, Pringles.
Sometimes I just want a banana.
Me too.
Sometimes I just want a pack of Swedish fish.
Right?
Ah, banana.
And I go with the Swedish fish.
Oh, dude, I get Swedish fish.
Yeah, and Pringles.
Smoked mackerel.
Oh, the Swedish fish are the little cracker ones. No, no, Swedish fish are the red fish. Oh, dude. I get Swedish fish. Yeah, and Pringles. Smoked mackerel? Oh, the Swedish fish are the little cracker ones.
No, no.
Swedish fish are the red candies.
You don't.
You do?
Sometimes.
If I'm feeling frisky.
Damn.
Or if I feel like I've earned it.
If I'm coming back from a long freaking couple nights.
That's the thing.
I never feel like I earned those.
Every time I eat those, I feel like a bad boy.
I don't feel great after.
I flew first class to London, man.
They got food, and I was eating cheeses and wines.
Did you get hammered?
No, but I just kept drinking and eating, and I just felt like, fuck.
Did you shit on the plane?
No, I don't think so.
You felt terrible when you landed?
I was just one big sodium bomb.
Yes, I'll have more cheese.
Do you have a wheel back there? Sure. And I'll eat another ice cream sundae. I just went big sodium bomb. Yes, I'll have more cheese. Do you have a wheel back there?
Sure.
And I'll eat another ice cream sundae.
I just went a little crazy.
And wine.
Yeah, that fucks me up.
I find you do good writing on planes, though.
You get some good ideas out.
Because it's just you alone staring at this.
You're not moving, right?
You're confined to this little seat.
You're not going anywhere.
Sometimes good ideas come when you just sit like that.
It's so easy to just fuck off when you're at home.
I know.
You're writing.
It's so easy to just get.
Let me see what's in the fridge.
Let me go grab a cup of coffee.
I set a timer.
23 minutes.
I don't know why, but 23 minutes, and then I can't move.
Can't listen to my phone.
That's good, man.
I think I just, you know, I just force myself to do it.
The thing is, what's weird about it is, for whatever reason, I resist doing it at first.
Like, ugh.
But then once I get into it and I catch a groove, I love it.
It's like getting into a cold bath.
Like, at first, your skin's like, fuck.
And then you're like, ugh.
Yeah.
I think everything's that way.
I think inspiring yourself to kind of get started and then kind of figure out a way
to keep it going.
Even working out, though.
I did my class this morning, that box-burning cardio class.
And we started.
I'm like, god damn it.
Why did I come?
And then halfway through, I'm like, this is great.
Yeah.
Well, you know what, man?
I fucked myself up with that Sober October fitness challenge thing.
That's a bad idea, I feel like.
But this is what fucks you up.
Like, afterwards, you're like, regular work, and now it seems boring.
Because everything was this psycho, four hours, five hours a day.
Plus you were competing against each other.
Yeah, competing against each other.
You'd get anxiety, like, check the app, see where everybody scores at.
Shit.
You know, fuck.
You know?
You can do that still.
You were competing against Bert Kreischer,
Ari Shaffir, and Tom Segura.
So let's take it easy.
No, I'm not saying that.
You still, you still.
You know what I mean?
Like, my competition, those guys.
Bert Kreischer, that fucking workout maniac.
He could have coast the last three weeks and beat him.
That's Rogan's competitiveness.
I'm telling you, man.
He crushed him.
Joe, let Cam Haynes in that motherfucker.
You wouldn't have no chance.
Let Cam Haynes and me in that bitch.
We should do a real fitness one.
Dude, I'm telling you, even if you're doing it,
the thing is, it's about how much time you spend.
It's not even about how hard you're working out.
See, it's like, how much time are you spending
at 80% of your max heart rate?
That's really what it's about. Watch how fast you spending at 80% of your max heart rate?
That's really what it's about. That's, yeah.
Watch how fast Ngannou is.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, he's terrifying.
Look at how quick he is.
We should probably watch this.
He's lying on his feet, too, right now.
Yeah.
Oh, boom.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Jesus Christ.
He's just so powerful.
Oh, my God.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, man.
Oh, that's it.
That's it.
That's it. Damn. He's back. Oh, that's it. That's it. That's it.
Damn.
He's back.
Oh, my God.
Starched him.
Wow.
No, dude, you can't.
That was crazy.
A tad of an early stoppage for me.
Wow.
I don't know.
It looked like it was almost an early stoppage.
He was working his way back up.
No, that's not what I'm thinking.
I was going to say it looked like it was almost an early stoppage and then they let it go on
and then it was a decent stoppage.
I agree. Because that's how you save a fighter.
Didn't it seem like in the beginning that they were going to stop it?
Yeah. He got
concussed right away. He got
three chances. Curtis Blaine is
26 years old. He's got a lot of fight
left in him. So that's a good stoppage
for his future. Oh, he just got caught.
Literally just got caught.
I think it was the only way he was future. Oh, he just got caught. Yeah. Literally just got caught. Good stoppage for his future.
I think it was the only way he was going to lose this fight is getting caught.
Yep.
God.
That's what happened. Man, God will look fast.
Listen, the levels of stand-up between them.
I mean, Curtis Blades is a good stand-up fighter, but a really good wrestler.
His wrestling stats are like some of the best in the heavyweight division ever.
It's the best as far as successful takedowns.
Boom, he clipped him in the back of the head with that hammer.
Oh, my God.
Boom.
See, like right there, it looked like the ref was about to stop it.
Boom.
Wow, he has so much power.
He runs over there, and look, he touches him.
He touched him.
You're not supposed to touch him.
He probably just ran into him on accident.
Yeah.
I don't know, man man i thought he was gonna stop
boom and that then he decides it that's it that's it that's it that's a dangerous job man super see
uh that uh clip from the muay thai one of the uh muay thai websites has it up there of this uh
referee is stepping in to stop this fight and his head kicked kicked. Yeah, I saw it. He gets knocked out. He takes a shin right to the dome.
Gets knocked the fuck out.
Well, he stayed conscious, but he went down.
Looks like he was moving.
But he got head kicked.
That's a dangerous man in the first round.
Dude, can you imagine me and Curtis Blades right now?
You took the plane for 20 hours to fly over to get knocked down in 45 seconds.
The worst.
Yeah.
Always a possibility with Ngannou.
God damn.
Yeah.
Get friggin' Ngannou, get back on track.
I wasn't crazy about the fight for him.
Yeah.
What did he say about that fight, officially?
Which one?
Where he didn't throw any punches.
He said he carried the fear of his last fight.
His confidence was down.
And then Derek Lewis was hurt. so you get a shit show you
know yeah it's neither one of those fault derrick was hurt with his back francis had no confidence
it was crazy i mean it was the squeakiest of squeaky margins for derrick to win because
nothing really happened in the fight yeah no one really won but meanwhile we were talking about
that fight we were like holy shit this is going to be bombs away.
That's why I think most people say it's the worst heavyweight fight
because you just thought it was going to be fucking fireworks.
I think I might have even said in the commentary,
there's not a doubt in my mind that this is going to be crazy.
But who wouldn't think that?
That's fair to think with their two fighting styles.
I thought it was going to be chaos.
I thought Derek was going to be throwing. I thought it was going to be awesome.
Derek is going to be throwing haymakers, trying to find his chin.
I'd like to see him go at it again, actually.
Oh, I would love to see that.
Is Floyd really fighting that one kickboxer?
No.
Yes.
Yeah, you know, he is.
Apparently, they've agreed to it.
It's real, but it's going to be a-
An exhibition boxing match.
It's fake.
It's a boxing match.
It's fake.
They're probably going to wear big gloves.
No kicks?
No kicks. At all? No. Oh. Unless- Can't have that guy kick. Floyd's a boxing match. It's fake. They're probably going to wear big gloves. No kicks? No kicks.
At all?
No.
Oh.
You can't have that guy kick.
Floyd's too smart for that.
Unless the fucking Japanese just say, okay, so we agree.
Kick it, too.
Go.
Unless the Akusa goes up to that young kid and go, hey, here, fucking head kick him, KO.
We're going to give you $2 million.
Yeah, in the middle of the first round.
Which would be kind of cool to see. but they'll rush you through some contract negotiations okay
here we go it was weird because floyd was like that was all bullshit i never agreed to any of
this then a week later he's like actually we're gonna do it listen man japanese are they do a
different kind of business they're very clever over there you know the ufc got kind of they got
kind of look when you look at the sale
of pride, what happened
with all that, they did
a smart thing. A really smart thing.
One thing, they came over and they pretended
they were going to have pride fighters fighting the UFC
and UFC fighters fighting pride.
Remember that? In the early days, the UFC
sent Chuck Liddell
over there and they were going to bring fighters over
to America, but they never did.
Yeah, no.
They never did.
They had to wait until they bought it.
And then when they bought it, they basically just bought a DVD library.
Yep.
And they spent like $60 million for Pride.
And when they got it, they couldn't even run it.
So then they had these people that were running the office, and these people running the office,
they just went off and made Dream.
They made their own shit.
Right.
And so they were like stuck.
They sold basically a logo and a brand.
They got these contracts.
The contracts weren't even any good.
Like they didn't, like a lot of the fighters
were not bound to them.
You know, like Fedor.
Like they didn't have Fedor.
They didn't have a lot of things.
And they owed a lot of guys money.
And they thought they were going to operate in Japan.
Like, well, we're going to run Pride too.
Yeah, right.
That shit, no chance, man.
No way.
But what they did with those smart is
the the first thing pride did was they pumped up their own value by bringing their fighters over
here and pretending their fight is going to fight chuck liddell remember they had that crazy stare
down way back in the day but but then they never did you everybody's always talking about but they
sent chuck to pride yeah they should but was a point in time where they did not want Pride mentioned on the air.
No, they hate him.
They did not want their name mentioned.
How is Bellator hard to say they fought in Japan?
The UFC also honeydicked the WME when they sold theirs.
They went, look, dude, we got Ronda.
We got Brock.
We got Conor.
We're doing all this big shit, man.
And then they sold it for $4 billion.
They're like, all right, Ronda's going to retire, so we can't do nothing about that.
Brock's on WWE, so we'll figure that out.
Well, the Ronda thing was during the purchase.
They had already purchased it.
That was the last Ronda fight, the comeback fight.
They had already purchased it.
That's also probably why it was marketed the way it was marketed.
Correct.
All eggs in.
That was one of the rare times where I publicly was like,
this is not, you guys aren't doing the right thing.
Because Amanda Nunes is the champion.
She's a world champion.
She stopped Misha Tate.
She strangled her.
Like, you've got to give her respect.
She's still not as respected as she should be.
But that was a crazy one.
That was the worst one I've ever seen. The whole commercial was all
Ronda. Nothing of Amanda Nunes. And for a couple seconds
it's like Amanda doing something real quick
and that's it. They're sure like hitting a bag
but the rest was like. First ever women's
MMA champion
that's a lesbian. First ever UFC
gay champion. With her girlfriend in the corner. Yeah, who's also
a UFC champion. So first ever gay
UFC champion, right? Yeah.
And no one talks about it. That we know of.
That we know of, right.
I think that's it. We haven't had women's
in a minute that long. For champions?
Well, you're saying guy or gal?
Girl.
I'm just trying to be funny.
I started thinking about
what gay champion. I don't know.
Who could be gay? But Amanda vs. Cyborg
is super interesting to me.
Very interesting.
I can't wait.
Super interesting to me.
Because, you know,
Cyborg,
she's way bigger.
She's bigger.
How about Amanda
fighting Raquel Pennington
and both their girlfriends
fighting the UFC too
and are in their corners.
Yeah.
Crazy.
That's insane.
Not insane in a bad way,
but it's cool.
Yeah.
I mean,
we've come a long ways.
Yeah, it's different
it's fascinating to watch uh jds coming back yeah jds fighting um
chef i came they've both been out of fucking grip kane's coming back you hear that is that real yeah
when 2019 but when did they have a date no No Just announced he's back And DC posted
Hey he said the belt's waiting for a champ
Whoa
Yeah cause he's back
So what do you guys think
Of Amanda against Cyborg?
I think Amanda's gotta move
I think only
Does she have a chance?
Sure she's got a chance
She's a beast
But
Oh shit that's a great fight
Tied to a Vasa JDS
That's right
That's a motherfucking fight
I think only your ad favorite
Could probably beat Cyborg.
I don't.
There's no girls.
There's no fight.
There's no girls.
Wow.
But she's got a chance.
It's like Joanna, man.
It's not happening.
She's got a chance.
Amanda Nunez is probably my favorite female fighter, too.
What does she walk around at?
What do you think?
Amanda?
She's probably in the 160s, if I had to guess.
And what do you think Cyborg walks around at?
We went through this, right? We went through this. She's like 80s, 70s. 80-something. She's down to the 160s, if I had to guess. And what do you think Cyborg walks around at? We went through this, right?
We went through this.
She said like 80s, 70s.
80-something.
She's down to, you know.
She's bigger.
It does not matter.
She's bigger.
She's such an animal.
She's so much bigger.
That's going to be a crazy fight, man.
Yeah.
That's on the same card as Gus Van Jones 2, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
After the year.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Gus has been out a hot minute. I can't wait for that fight. Yeah. After the year. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. Gustafson's been out a hot minute.
I can't wait for that fight.
Yeah.
I know, right?
I think the key to anybody that's going to be able to beat Cyborg is you're going to
have to catch her coming in and hurt her.
And have a hard cock.
No girls beating Cyborg, man.
No girls beating Cyborg.
There's not a girl on this planet that can beat Cyborg in MMA.
I would agree.
What about that one dude that turned into a chick?
She would get fucking dealt with.
She already got beat by a chick.
What was her name?
I forgive her.
She got beat by a chick, right?
Yeah, she lost her last fight.
Fallon Fox.
Fallon Fox.
Ashley Evans-Smith beat her.
Ashley Evans-Smith, who's in the UFC, beat her.
Damn.
Came to the UFC.
Yeah.
Nice.
Cyborg beat both of them up at the same time now.
I mean, she's such an animal man
You've seen her spar
With like dudes
And then that Olympian
Clarissa Shields
Who's a world champion
Yeah
Like dude
She does not fuck around
She doesn't fuck around
And she's way bigger
And this is her last fight
On her contract too
Well you know what man
I mean I could easily see
Someone like 1FC
Grabbing her as well
Look they're grabbing
A lot of people now
It's really interesting to me.
Who else are they grabbing, though?
They have Siamisha Tate, but that's business.
Well, they got Eddie Alvarez.
He just went over there.
That's right.
They got Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson.
He just went over there.
And they're looking to expand their roster.
And I think they're looking to also break into the Western marketplace.
You know, they have that app.
You can get the app and watch the fights on your phone.
I've only seen highlights at 1FC. I've never seen it. You can get the app and watch the fights on your phone. I've only seen highlights of one FC.
I've never seen it.
You can watch it for free.
You get the app and you watch it for free.
How's Bellator doing in comparison to UFC?
Bellator's not doing as well as the UFC, but they're doing well.
They're doing well.
They're on the Paramount Network.
They get pretty good ratings.
They're developing stars.
They're also with Roy McDonald, Gegard Mousasi.
Then with the heavyweight, with Bader Fedor. The heavyweight tournament was sick. They're doing well. What do you they also With Roy McDonald Gagar Musasi Then with the heavyweight With Bader Fedor
Like the heavyweight tournament
Was sick
Yeah
They're doing well
What do you think about
Oscar De La Hoya
Promoting MMA
Complete shit show
Not this one
Did you see the last one he did
Did you see him
At the press conference
Why a shit show
Hey I want to see Chuck
And Tito
No no
It's not a shit show
Because it's Chuck and Tito
Did you see Oscar De La Hoya
At the press conference
He's like
He got Chuck Liddell's name wrong
and then you have
these other guys.
How did he say Chuck Liddell?
I forget it.
Liddell.
Liddell.
Liddell.
Everyone used to say
Chuck Liddell.
At first,
that's what you said.
He just didn't know
any of the fighters.
He didn't know
any of the fighters
and he was...
It's the first one.
You give him a little bit of that.
And what else did he say?
He goes, and then, you know, we have other fights other fights too these guys behind me i don't know their names
but you know i'm not gonna remember their name no way yeah he said that yeah it's just dead silence
he's like you know when you think of mma when you think of fighters at all you know you just think
of these two there's no one else well that is the dumbest way to promote a fight it was so bad
oscars had you had how many professional fights?
A lot.
And he snorts all the cocaine?
Does he do all of it?
Watch this press conference.
He's all, and, uh.
He's like, it's freezing in here.
Is that a fact or is it a conspiracy theory?
I don't think Oscar's love.
No, he's admitted.
He came on air as a dad abuse prom.
It's pretty.
I like devil's dandruff.
I don't think his love is.
Devil's dandruff?
I don't think his love is MMA.
His love is boxing.
It's just,
you know,
he's doing this
because it's a good
money making venture.
You know what I hope
it does well?
Because Tito and Chuck
will benefit the most
from it for money.
So I want people
to buy it
because of that reason.
Is MC Hammer
still in the game?
No.
No?
You know he was
my manager.
What?
Yeah.
Holy shit,
you hung out with him?
Oh yeah. Damn. MC Hammer, long talks, great dude, smart Yeah. Holy shit. You hung out with him? Oh, yeah.
Damn.
Dean Herring, long talks.
Great dude.
Smart dude.
What happened?
Why did he get out of MMA?
Because it's bullshit.
You know, he was like, well, I like money.
Fuck this sport.
That's hilarious.
Well, how else is he making money?
Dude, he's one of the first investors in Facebook.
Twitter, too, right?
So he's filthy rich?
Yeah. Oh, shit. Okay. And I remember he goes,? So he's filthy rich? Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
And I remember he goes,
well, there's a difference
between being bankrupt
and being MC Hammer bankrupt.
He goes, I wasn't like poor.
See, I was still balling.
Yeah.
He still had like $12 million
in his bag.
He was killing it.
Smart dude, man.
I'm sure.
Interesting.
What were we just talking about
before this?
Before MC Hammer?
Amanda Nunez and no no
no that was way long devil island if you're white you can't go to the island anymore
now completely lost how did we get to mc hammer uh we're talking about fight promoting oh one fc
oh one fc i've never watched the de la la Hoya. Look, I hope they all do good.
You definitely need more competition.
There's more fighters than there are fights.
Right.
And the hard thing, though, is that the UFC is like Q-tips, right?
It's like when you think you don't want cotton swabs, give me some fucking Q-tips.
They've got the market.
Yeah, there's tissue.
For now.
There's Kleenex.
For now.
Yeah, for now.
For now, but there's always...
I don't know if there is. It's such a part of the cultural landscape like some people go do you ufc yeah
how fucking dare you but i would hope that they would get to the point i would hope this is my
goal my hope is that a lot of organizations are like a lot of these boxing organizations
when you look at like world champions like Deontay Wilder
who's about to fight Tyson Fury,
you can have guys that have different promoters,
and they work together some sort of a deal,
and then they put together the fights.
That's better for the fighters if the fights get,
and the fighters and other organizations get as popular
as, you know, it's like Manny Pacquiao fighting Floyd Mayweather.
They have to have these promoters figure out how to put that fight together.
That's better for the sport.
Better for everybody.
Because when Ben Askren is whooping ass over in 1FC,
wouldn't you love if he just fought the champion of the UFC or Bellator's champion?
Like, Gagar Musasi fighting Woodley right now or fighting Whitaker.
I'd love to see that.
They're going to be the absolute champ.
They're going to be very happy that they signed Ben Askren.
It's going to be fun.
He's smart.
He talks a lot of shit.
And it took forever to get him over here and a lot of people
are in deep shit. They're in deep shit.
He's going to grab a hold of them and
wrestle fuck them to the ground and punch their
face in.
There's not going to be much they're going to be able to do to him.
A lot of people are going to be in real trouble.
He's a star man. When he goes anywhere, they're cheering for him.
The interviews are scrum for him.
Look, man. People have seen interviews online.
They've seen the podcast that I did with him.
They've seen all of his fights.
If you watch highlight reels, you can see all of his fights.
You and I jack them off every show we get.
Every show.
And then in 1FC, they allowed him to knee to the head on the ground, too.
You get side control and he's going to fuck out of your head.
It's a nightmare, man.
It's a nightmare.
You can also get north-south.
North-south, knees to the head. Oh, my God. Yeah, man. It's a nightmare. You can also get north-south. North-south, knees to the head.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, man.
Oh, my God.
You can fuck somebody up with that.
This is FS1?
Yeah, man.
Oh, fuck.
Don't say FS1.
1FC.
Oh, 1FC, I mean.
I know what you meant.
FoxSports1 is a channel.
1FC, I meant.
But to be able to do that, to be able to land knees to the head on the ground like that,
it's a giant advantage for a wrestler.
Yeah.
Giant advantage.
And to take it away from them, you limit what is really good about being on top.
What's really good about being on top is you could smash them anywhere.
Jesus.
It's kind of weird.
Those knees.
Did you hear the rumor about Cowboy Connor?
I did.
Yeah.
That could be a sick fight.
Yeah.
I hope Cowboy gets that fight.
I think that's a possibility.
Yeah. I think that's a money-making fight. It makes sense for both guys especially for connor yeah i know connor wants the khabib rematch but it's like dude let's get one and then
go back that way but you gotta win that'd be really i'm not saying cowboys an easy fight but
it's a better matchup than khabib or tony and then tony khabib fight. It's going to be interesting to see what kind of shit talking
because Cowboy
did not have a good time with the shit talking
of Nate Diaz. He got on his hat?
Nate Diaz. Or Jorge Masvidal.
He doesn't like that shit talking. Doesn't like that
shit talking. Oh and Conor goes, you guys
did that? Watch this.
He's going to ramp it up to 11.
I think Cowboy, if he grabs a hold
of Conor and takes him to the ground,
Conor's in a world of shit, too.
Because Cowboy's a hell of a wrestler and a hell of a-
He's a hell of a striker, too, man.
Yeah.
It's a different world.
It's not an easy fight.
As far as the odds, I'm assuming Conor would barely be a favorite.
It would be 155?
155.
Look, Conor's, the speed that he has, the one-shot KO power, Conor's The speed that he has
The one shot KO power
Like Conor can do some shit
To motherfuckers
And when you see him
Fight Eddie Alvarez
That's when you really realize
Like Eddie Alvarez
Is tough as fuck
And Conor just put it on him
He can
He can fuck people up
Although Cowboy put it on Eddie too
He did
But he didn't do it
The same way Conor did
No not like Conor He beat him He beat his legs up He beat did. But he didn't do it the same way Conor did. No, not like Conor. He beat him.
He beat his legs up. He beat his legs up.
He dismantled. Conor dismantled
Eddie. I think
some of that might have been shots. I think
that also is a little misleading because I feel like
a lot of that, again, was because
Conor got into Eddie's head.
But Eddie's better than that. Look at that shit.
Eddie's been doing it a long time. Conor McGregor
is a two to one favorite. That doesn't make any sense to me. Well, it does make shit. Eddie's been doing it a long time. Conor McGregor is a two-to-one favorite.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
Well, it does make sense.
He's not as good a wrestler.
Well, it makes sense in terms of how experts.
Because you're going based off how Cowboy won his last fight.
But Cowboy's fallen some tough times.
I love Cowboy more than anyone in this room.
But Cowboy's fallen some tough times.
Well, he's got the most winning record in UFC history, too, I believe.
So I'm also going by that.
And he also looks fucking good lately.
Well, he looked fantastic against Mike Perry.
He looked amazing.
But Mike Perry is a big difference in movement.
But look, I like the fight.
Overall fighter.
I like the fight a lot.
And I do agree that if Cowboy gets a hold of anybody on the ground, he's got crazy ground
skills.
Cowboy's better crazy leg kicks.
Hold on.
Cowboy's better off his back.
If Conor were to take him down, he would be screwed.
Cowboy on top is not a technician on top.
No, I disagree.
You think he's a technician on top?
Cowboy from his back.
Cowboy from his back is very good. He's good everywhere.
He's good everywhere.
That's what I think.
He's special off his back.
Yes, yes, but.
He'll fuck you up from the top, too.
Yeah, he's got great top. Most of his He's special off his back. Yes, yes, but. He'll fuck you up from the top, too. Yeah, he's got great timing.
Most of his submissions are from his back.
That's true because he throws a lot of kicks and guys take him down.
Correct.
And he just snatches shit up really quick.
That's where he's super special off his back.
Yeah.
But he's just, he's very underrated as a grappler.
Yes.
And you saw him when he reversed Mike Perry.
Fucking amazing.
And then fucked his arm up.
Yeah.
How about Mike Perry?
He left Jackson's.
He's like, dude, I felt like it was, you know, I didn't want to be part of this.
You know, I came there to train, and all of a sudden I got put in the middle of this drama.
He left?
He left.
Oh, wow.
He's no longer there.
Oh, wow.
He looked great, too.
I thought he looked good.
You know, obviously he had the hiccup of taking Cowboy down, but I thought Perry looked pretty
fucking good, man.
Yeah.
No, Perry did look very good.
He's been looking better and better, but he just fucked up and took him down.
That fight was just Cowboy had his number.
Cowboy sparred with him who knows how many times
over at Jackson's.
Yeah, and in the grappling,
apparently Cowboy dominated him.
But I guess Perry said in their training camp
he was taking so many guys down.
It was almost like a natural reaction for him.
He goes, dude, part of the fight,
just took him down.
Didn't even think about it because that's what I was doing in camp.
Right.
And then Winkle John goes, that was not part of the plan.
We did not want to take Cowboy down.
So where is he going to go now?
I don't know.
He was ATT before, right?
Yeah.
I don't know.
But for him, man, he's getting so much better if he just stays consistent and gets with
a legit camp.
Maybe get his ass up to TriStar.
Or AKA.
I like the... Something about going to Montreal
is sexy.
So cold.
The coldest I've ever been.
Plus you're in another country.
It's so far.
You've got to also just really super concentrate on what you're doing
because it's all you're doing.
It's a beautiful city though.
It's a great city.
I love that city.
And food.
I could live there.
Allegedly.
It's amazing.
I think that camp, you've got to be with one of the wizards.
There's many great wizards of MMA.
But to really maximize your potential,
you've got to be with someone who can put it all together.
And you can pick your favorite wizards, but one of my favorite wizards for sure is Firas.
I think he's one of the best.
How about Matt Hume?
One of the best.
One of the best for sure.
Matt Hume's the best.
Who else does he have?
You've got Duke Rufus.
Matt Hume does not have very many high-level guys that have been.
I mean, he did work with Maurice, though.
He did work with Maurice Smith.
He's in Seattle, right?
Yes, he's in Seattle. right yes he's in amc
pancreation but he um was a great fighter himself just great knowledge of the game but what he just
by proof of what he did with mighty mouse and the way they talk to each other in the corner
and you realize like there's a system they're operating under and they're like this is very
high level very technical very sophisticated they're staying one step ahead of everything
sometimes that works for dimitrius dimitrius is a very cerebral smart fighter so that doesn't High level, very technical, very sophisticated. They're staying one step ahead of everything, and they know what they're doing.
But sometimes that works for Demetrius.
Demetrius is a very cerebral, smart fighter.
So that doesn't necessarily mean Mike Perry's going to be able to plug in and work.
That's true, too.
I think Mike Perry would do great somewhere with a Jason Perillo in San Diego.
Sure.
That could be fucking a dope connection for him.
Yeah, or-
He has to find that right coach.
Alliance, San Diego would be great, too.
Yeah, I feel like that'd be good for him down there.
There's always good spots, man.
But I think that having a fresh look is not the worst thing in the world.
But I think...
You can't have too many fresh looks, though.
You gotta put your roots somewhere.
Otherwise, you're like, what?
Where's Frank Edgar learn his boxing from?
Frank Edgar?
Mark Henry?
Yeah.
Wow.
Phenomenal coach.
One of the masterminds.
Yeah, he's one of the masters.
He's one of the great masters.
He works in Barbosa.
Frank Edgar. Eddie Alvarez. Also owns masterminds. Yeah, he's one of the masters. He's boxing and he works in Barboza, Frank Jaeger, Eddie Alvarez.
Also owns a pizza place.
Yeah, that's my guy.
That was his pizza place?
You said it was really good.
The best.
You actually sent me a text after you ate that pizza and you go,
I ate the best, because we always talk about Jelena's pizza.
He goes, I ate the best pizza in the world, bro.
I was like, well, that's a random text, but I don't give a shit.
It's a different pizza.
I hate being that guy, but bagels and pizza are different over there different water
they say right it's not jersey water it's different it's a different moisture in the air dude i've
been good on my diet i've been so good on my diet getting you know losing weight for my special but
i've been good on my diet trying to get slim yeah yeah trying to get away from the special you know
we're doing different fasting and extra cardio how many hours of fasting? Man, I wake up at 6.
And then I quit eating at 6 p.m. at night.
So 6 to 6.
And then I don't eat until usually 10 or 11 in the afternoon.
Yeah.
So.
Wow.
But anyways.
Anyway.
So I've been good on my diet, but I go to New York next week.
And artichoke pizza or King's Pizza, I think it's called King Street.
I just can't turn it down.
Artichoke pizza is your shit? No, the company's called Artichoke. I fucking hate artichoke. or king's pizza i think it's called king street i just can't turn it down artichoke pizza is your shit no the company's called artichoke i fucking hate artichoke the
white pizza the white sauce no that's not bullshit you don't like that stuff fuck no
i gotta have red sauce man yeah but artichoke pizza in new york my mouth's watering bro
there's some places that have good white pizza i didn't experience good white pizza until i had it
at uh nicky's in White Plains. Nicky's
Pizzeria in White Plains, New York.
Right down the street from Executive
Billiards. They had white pizza that would knock
your dick right in the dirt. It had melted butter
and garlic on it and ham
and shit. And you'd bite into it
and be like, holy fuck. Yeah, that's where a lot of Italians
were in White Plains. I mean, hey,
is White Castle too? No. Listen, it's not my
favorite. Is White Castle still around?
Remember White Castle?
Yeah.
The small burgers?
Those little burgers?
Those are from 1940?
They make a vegan one, bro.
They make a vegan burger.
White Castle?
Fuck yeah.
Dude,
is there a Burger King around here?
Really?
Isn't that the case?
White Castle's still going on?
Yeah,
probably.
I think,
I'm pretty sure White Castle,
for all our vegan friends,
they make a vegan burger now.
White Castle does.
It's about time
which is like that's literally like buying a vitamin from a poison factory that's a bad idea
do you sell vitamins too yeah yeah if you're a vegan and like you're buying vegan burgers
soy from a company that slaughters millions of animals a year.
Impossible burger.
Impossible burger. You feel better?
How about Taco Bell? Taco Bell puts
essentially sand
in, well, sodium bicarbonate.
Wait, bro.
No, silicon bicarbonate.
So they're
beef filling. They're not allowed to call it
beef filling. They have not allowed to call it beef filling.
They have to call it taco filling because the beef has silicone in it to make it fuller and more.
Look it up.
That shit is delicious.
Look up what's in Taco Bell.
How would you doubt that?
How would you need evidence for that?
It's Taco Bell.
You can't defend Taco Bell.
That's a conspiracy theory, by the way.
I believe it.
Dude, a double-decker taco?
I don't give a fuck.
Is there a YouTube link on it?
Yeah, dude, bro.
Look at the-
Because if there's no YouTube link, it's not real.
Is Callan true?
Where'd you hear this, Callan?
Watch this.
What are you getting your news from?
This is dark.
Silica.
Taco Bell is serious.
Hey, Brian, I believe you.
We're talking about Taco Bell.
Hold on.
I don't.
It's not in there.
Isolated oat products, salt, chili pepper, onion powder, tomato powder.
Silicone dioxide.
Anti-caking agent.
Now look that up.
Silicone dioxide anti-caking agent.
How about that?
Here we go.
You guys love Taco Bell.
There you go, guys.
What does it say?
Love it.
Anti-caking agent to avoid clumping in supplements.
It's used to prevent various powdered ingredients from sticking together.
Many food additives consumers often have concerns about silicon dioxide as an additive.
Probably fine.
Is it safe?
Is it cancerous?
Look at that.
That's sand.
See that?
That's what they put in there.
Also frequently found in health food nutritional supplements as an additive, silicon dioxide
primarily functions as an anti-caking agent,
which prevents ingredients from binding together.
But it doesn't say if it's cancerous.
Dude, if you eat it every now and then, you'll be fine.
Proven carcinogen.
Look at this.
Proven carcinogen.
Well, who said it?
It's a McDonald's answer.
It's in their buns.
It says silicon dioxide is a proven carcinogen.
Why does McDonald's opt to use this in buns, potentially hurting human health?
Trace mineral.
Silicon is categorized as a trace mineral, Ben, which means that it's needed in minimal
amounts to maintain health.
As its requirement is very small, it's recommended daily allowance for silicon has not been specified
because it's not food.
Duh.
However, experts suggest that a daily consumption in the range of 20-30 milligrams is
needed to stay healthy. Who wrote
that? Is that McDonald's writing this?
Who's writing this?
Is this McDonald's writing this?
It's called Your Questions.
I guess it is
just a trace mineral, maybe.
Maybe it is.
If McDonald's is saying it, then for sure.
You know that food has a slimy thing on it? But here's the thing. If McDonald's is saying it Then for sure But you know It has a significant role
You know that food
Has like a slimy thing on it
But here's the thing
If they can't really say all this
If it's not true
If they do
They get in deep shit
Yeah
So it might be real
That silicon is a trace mineral
It's an important part
Of our own food
But it also
You're putting dirt
In your burgers bro
It's also food
Food grade
So maybe it's different
But even so
It's like why
Is it in there though Even if you're saying It's okay to grade, so maybe it's different. But even so, it's like, why is it in there, though?
Even if you're saying it's okay to eat.
So it doesn't cake up.
Didn't you read that?
They need it.
You can't have a cake.
It's filler, man.
36% beef.
It's only 36% beef in Taco Bell.
The other 64% is a wide range of fillers, extenders, preservatives.
36% beef.
64% is made with fillers, extenders, and preservatives.
Didn't we kind of know this?
When I go talk about it, I'm not like, this is 100% beef.
Ever.
This shit is delicious.
When were those cows killed?
Did you really think it was 64% fillers?
I don't think.
When I eat that, I'm like, listen, man, this isn't going to be good.
I'm going to shit my pants, but I love their fucking tostadas and double duckers.
Have you heard that conspiracy theory that McDonald's, you know, it says 100% beef, that
that's an actual trademark name, 100% beef?
Yeah.
Is that for real or is that not a conspiracy theory?
I read that.
I don't know if it's true.
I don't think they can say that.
I did read that, though.
I think they can get sued for that.
No, no, no.
It was like a slogan they did.
That's the name of their beef.
It's called 100% beef.
It's called 100% beef. It's called 100% beef.
Oh, so they named it 100% beef, even though it's 40%.
That's the conspiracy theory.
So I don't know.
I don't even know if that's true.
Food industry does some shit.
Is McDonald's the same as Taco Bell in terms of what percentage of it is actually beef?
Yes.
Look at their chicken nuggets.
The one thing that's really weird about that...
Besides snot.
The one thing that's fucked up about the the beef that you get in hamburger from mcdonald's is those cows can come from 10 different parts of the globe
so you're eating the cows from china argentina united states who cares and all those cows
they all taste the same it was all been killed then it's brought together so so it's all smushed
i like one cow bro well i don't give a fuck. My burger has come from, I have to know the cow's name.
I have to.
I'll tell you, I think the healthiest thing for you at McDonald's is the McFlurry.
It's not true.
No, no, no.
Filet-O-Fish is made from real fish.
Jamie just pulled up.
Filet-O-Fish is awesome.
Have you had a McRib?
Those are real ribs.
You sure?
You know they take meat and form it as a fucking rib?
Is that true?
Let's read the McDonald thing.
The McDonald thing is not true.
I love the fish, though.
Make that larger, please.
I want a fish sandwich.
It's not true, Eddie.
Well, smaller again so it fits the screen.
There you go.
Well, this is a fascinating premise.
There is nothing to it.
McDonald's hamburger patties in the U.S. are made with 100% USDA inspected beef.
They are cooked and prepared with salt, pepper, and nothing else.
No preservatives, no fillers.
All right.
Debunked.
So it's pretty healthy.
It's debunked.
How is that possible?
Wait, what does it say?
What does the top of that say?
What is the title of it?
Are McDonald's hamburgers 100% beef?
Dude, why doesn't Taco Bell get on that train?
They're just like, nah, fuck it.
They're like, fuck it.
Fuck it, bro.
You know it's shitty for you.
They're way worse than McDonald's then.
Way worse.
God, they're both delicious.
Wait, McDonald's buys their meat from a company called 100% Beef.
That's not true.
That's not true?
That's what it's saying.
Oh, that's the conspiracy theory.
Okay.
Balls.
So it's saying it's false.
Okay.
So it is.
Look, man, you could probably get beef pretty goddamn cheap if you do it that way and just
grind it all down.
Yeah, masses.
I still like del taco myself
all that stuff is so gross but if you go to a real taco spot bro me and you have a
mcdonald's breakfast i love mcdonald's i will up an egg mcmuffin i will up it
i think that's real i'm gonna play the sausage mcgriddle i think it's an egg that's good
here's the thing if you get egg McMuffin with ham
They really can't fuck with that
That egg's suspect
If you get that sausage
Who knows what's in that shit son
But if you get that ham
That's up your head now
How about the bread
That they soak in syrup
Curious
No the eggs actually
Lately they
It's the only thing
That they make there
What?
The egg
McDonald's said that
The chickens and eggs
They use now
They don't have I think They don't use use now, they don't have, I think...
They don't use antibiotics?
They don't have beaks.
Look at this.
Containing eggs that are freshly cracked in McDonald's restaurants.
It's impressive.
The rest of the chain's egg items, such as scrambled eggs and egg whites, are made from liquid eggs.
So that's where you go.
You go with the regular chicken...
Or you go with the regular Egg McMuffins.
Who doesn't get an egg on their Egg McMuffin?
Who just gets the sausage patty?
Well, the sausage patty's just, you don't know what you're getting with that.
No, you'd be getting an egg.
Tastes good, though.
Egg bacon.
Those sausage patties are quite tasty.
They're so good.
They're so nice.
They have scientists, and they're working on taste for real.
They do a good job.
And it works.
They do a good job.
The bread soaked in syrup.
What about that?
You're talking about the McGriddles.
The McGriddles.
Come on, man.
The McGriddle is basically candy
It's brilliant
It's candy with meat
That and a Filet-O-Fish
It's very good
It's very good
I like it
I feel good when I eat it
Eddie
Who the fuck orders Filet-O-Fish?
Dude
Filet-O-Fish
I love Filet-O-Fish
I've never had one
You're the first person I've ever talked about it
That's my dessert
Now I love that shit
I love Filet-O-Fish too
Really?
They're very good
They're good in that
We should post them
That tartar sauce
I still think the best hamburgers are In-N-Out.
In-N-Out are the best hamburgers, right?
No.
Five Guys is pretty goddamn good, too.
Never had Five Guys.
Five Guys with sliced jalapenos.
Dude, I'll tell you, fuck.
Shake Shack is very fucking good.
Shake Shack's delicious.
You know who shits on all these?
Dude, Chick-fil-A.
Chick-fil-A does it fucking right.
Can't order on Sunday.
No, fuck a beef.
Just their chicken sandwich is the best. What's that? Which one? Chick-fil-A. It's good. Can't overdo it on Sunday. No, fuck a beef. It's all chicken. Just their chicken sandwich is the best.
What's that?
Which one?
Chick-fil-A.
It's good.
Very good.
It's good.
It's good.
It can't fuck with five guys.
Just good?
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Chick-fil-A is delicious.
They made their name off that goddamn sandwich.
And I'll tell you something else, because they got pickles and stuff.
Yeah.
Now, Shake Shack, that jalapeno, smoked jalapeno bacon burger, get the fuck out of here right
now.
I'll tell you what, for my cold hard earned cash i just get a whopper
with cheese ketchup only from i can't fuck with burger king cheap beef cheap shit you can't fuck
with it i have to be fucking super hungry in the middle of the desert you know like on the way to
fresno for me to fuck with burger king i gotta be desperate and that stupid wooden king that they
have that's a dumb ad
Wendy's is different though
I'm down with Wendy's
I love Wendy's
I love their fries
Oh Wendy's on another level
Oh yeah
See I'm a big Burger King guy
Shout out to Burger King
When I'm done with a show
And there's nothing else open
I'll go to Burger King
I go
You know what
Get me two fucking
Whoppers ketchup only
Over Mickey D's
Oh yeah
You know what
With Wendy's
Their beef is never frozen
That's how they get you
But they're in squares
So I judge them
I don't mind squares
I worked at McDonald's
For three weeks
When I was a 17 year old
I bet you were terrible at it
We'd drop the burgers
And put them back on the grill
We sold them
Oh son of a bitch
Hey man
You're ruining people's food
It's fucked up
When we were younger
We did it by accident
I didn't want to waste the food
Whatever You know A good Italian sub You're ruining people's food It's fucked up When we were younger We did it by accident I didn't want to waste the food Whatever
You know
A good Italian sub
With like melted
Parmesan cheese
You talking about the
Meatball sub from Subway
Yeah
I'm not a Subway guy
Jared fucked it up for me bro
I'll take the tuna
The tuna
At Subway
I'll fuck with that
But not from Subway
What are you talking about
I'm talking about a real sub shop
Oh like Blimpy's
No
Like a good Italian deli Fuck, like Blimpy's? No, Quiznos?
Like in Boston? Like a good Italian deli.
Fuck.
You like Quiznos?
Come on, man.
They toast their buns.
No, no, no.
They toast their buns.
Assembling a roll from a guy.
You go to an Italian deli in Boston or New York where they have the hams hanging from
the ceiling.
Yeah, that's legit.
That's the fun.
Where the guy's a 90-year-old guy.
Dude, you can get that at Bay Cities in Venice.
Yes.
You ever been to Bay Cities?
Incredible.
You've got the fucking godmother. As good as it gets. Cavaretta's You ever been to Bay Cities? Incredible. It's got the fucking godmother.
As good as it gets.
Cavaretta's.
Godmother will shit down your throat.
It's delicious.
Dude, Bay Cities is unbelievable.
There's some spots.
Bay Cities is unbelievable.
But why don't more people do that?
When you go to a real Italian restaurant or a real Italian sub shop and you get sausage
and peppers with tomato sauce.
God damn, I'm hungry.
It's so good.
You're like, okay, why don't they figure out how to sell this more places?
I know, I know.
Quality is expensive, bro.
It is, but it's so goddamn good.
You're like, okay, well, all these little cheeseburger spots, how come you can't have
a sausage with peppers and onions?
Hoboken, New Jersey in the 90s, all Italian.
You'd go to those fucking delis.
Oh my God.
And they'd have the water mozzarella they're making in the 90s, all Italian. You'd go to those fucking delis. And they'd have the water mozzarella they're making
in the back. They'd make the mozzarella
and they'd put that shit on an Italian
sub. Oh my, what?
They're baking the bread right there.
San Gennaro's Feast.
That's in Little Italy.
And they always have these big sausage
vendors. Just giant
grill, sausages
laid out. You're walking by And you get one
And immediately
You bite into it
And it snaps
Bite the sausage
Snaps
And the juice
Busts in your mouth
And the juice
Oh my god
And the bread
The bread has just got
This density to it
And you're like
Holy shit
You guys ever fuck
With the kitchen sink cookie
What's that
The kitchen sink cookie
All ingredients
Are in the cookie
At Panera Bread You ever eat there Preach Dude they got a cookie Called the kitchen sink cookie. All ingredients are in the cookie. At Panera Bread.
You ever been there?
Preach.
Dude, they got a cookie called the kitchen sink.
It's five bucks, dude.
This is a good deal.
I only usually fuck with chocolate chip cookies.
I don't fuck with oatmeal or cinnamon cookie.
It's got to be a good chocolate chip cookie.
Yeah, me too.
Maybe some peanut butter in there.
But kitchen sink has fucking everything, and it's addicting as fuck.
But you got to be high, right?
No, no, no, no.
You know what?
There was a Panera Bread
next to Chipotle
so I go to Chipotle
and go get the salad.
No fucking,
no burrito.
I'm going with the salad
so I eat clean.
I eat clean at Chipotle
and then the Panera Bread's
right next door
and I'm like,
should I just walk to my car
and just get in
and drive the fuck away
or am I gonna go next door
and fuck this all up
and get a kitchen sink?
So I've always had this struggle
I go to Chipotle
and I'm eating
like an Olympian
at Chipotle
and then I walk out
and sometimes I get in my car
and just fucking
burn rubber
and I'm out
but it's been
a problem of mine
but luckily
luckily
luckily
I struggle with these things
I had
seriously
is that it
I had a salad
no that's not it
I had a salad
and I walked out and I was you know I was on the fence of whether I should get a kitchen sink,
and I said, fuck it, I'm going to get it.
And I walked next door, and the place closed down.
Probably for the best.
I'm like, holy shit.
Now what?
Now totally.
Paris is a legit paper.
Totally.
I feel good now.
Now I don't have a choice.
What are you showing us, Jamie?
These are the Rocks cheat meal cookies.
Have you seen these?
Who the fuck makes those?
This is some special place in Hawaii
just for them
they're like
five cookies
like a cookie
inside a cookie
what island is this on
I don't know
I'm there in February son
in Samoa
they should weigh like
six ounces
Jesus Christ
you're going to Samoa
I'm going to one of the
islands
what are you doing out there
comedy son
damn
doing shows in Hawaii
you're going to Samoa
no I'm going to
in Hawaii man
one of the islands
Oahu or some shit you don't even know where you're going no Samoa? No, I'm going to Hawaii, man. One of the islands. Oahu or some shit.
You don't even know
where you're going?
No.
Samoa is nowhere near Hawaii.
Tall house cookies.
I think Samoa is closer
to the Philippines
or something, right?
Is it?
Like in the middle?
It's in the Pacific.
Is it closer to Hawaii
or closer to the Philippines?
I think it's closer to Hawaii.
I think it's like
a thousand miles.
It's pretty far.
God, is anyone starving
after that talk?
Yeah. I know a Mexican spot it's like a legit a Mexican spot not that one I threw up at right no no no
remember that different one yeah that's a different story I kind of want to still hear Italian yeah
we we hit the bong too hard yeah we got an empty stomach yeah when was this many many years ago more than
more than 10 more than 10 yeah like 18 it was hot as fuck during the day empty stomach we're about
to go eat get some burritos and he wanted to stop at a head shop and get a bong so he got a bong
and all yet he and i was thirsty as fuck it was hot. We decided to hit the bomb before we went to the burrito place.
And it was hot as fuck.
And all he had in the middle, he had a case of Red Bulls, right?
Empty stomach.
I took two because they were little.
So I took two.
It was hot.
I was thirsty.
Took a gigantic dragon head out of this bomb.
We walked into that.
Caffeine and weed. Caffeine, weed walked into that. So you got caffeine and weed.
Caffeine, weed, empty stomach.
Empty stomach's the big one.
That means a real bad experience.
Oh, yeah.
So we walk into the burrito shop, and we just choked it.
Like, nobody was ever there.
We'd walk in.
We were always the only people.
So it was like, how the fuck are they making money? Are they, like, bringing food from home?
You know what I mean?
But anyways, the room started spinning.
I felt like I was going to throw up,
and I just walked out of that place and just,
I needed to find a bush,
and as soon as I walked off, like 20 yards,
I saw a bush, and I thought,
I'm not going to make it, man.
And I made a fucking beeline for the bush,
but then I collapsed halfway through
on my hands and knees,
just puking all over the sidewalk,
and I'm trying to drag myself, and then I p halfway through on my hands and knees, just puking all over the sidewalk. And I'm trying to drag myself.
And then I puked here.
I took a couple more crawls, steps.
I puked again three or four times.
I finally got to the bush, had a couple more ounces for the bush.
And then I felt great.
After I threw up, I felt great.
But, man, I left the crime scene all over there.
Did you go back and eat? I went back in. i left the crime scene all over there go back and
eat so i left i went back in i left the place he's freaking out he's like i gotta go outside
i gotta find a bush i'm gonna puke i'm like no way he goes outside and i wasn't sure like what
do i do do i order the food do i help him do i wait so and then i i was like how serious is this
and i went outside he's on his hands and knees pukes flying out of him he's crawling behind the
corner to where these bushes were
And he's hurling into the bushes
Like this is ridiculous
Yeah
And we're barbecued
I mean so the whole thing
Feels so surreal
This isn't the same Mexican place
You were just talking about
No no different
The other place
They don't even speak English
Dude I'm
It's in Woodland Hills
They don't even speak English
Woodland Hills
I'm driving
It's phenomenal
I'm driving from Calabasas
It's actually Canoga Park I'm driving from Calabasas. It's actually Canoga Park.
I'm driving from Calabasas just down to the PCH.
And it's just a windy, you know, through Topanga Canyon.
It's kind of windy.
Well, I had Jimmy Burke in the car who doesn't drive in cars.
He lives in New York City, so he is used to walking or riding his bike.
He never drives in cars.
So as we're going down, I'm just taking it for granted.
I'm just zing, zing, zing, zing.
Oh, you're freaking him out. And he goes like this.
We get to the bottom.
He goes, Baba, you got to pull over right now.
I go, why?
He goes, I think I'm going to die.
I go, what?
What happened?
He goes, you're swerving.
He was on his hands and knees, and we waited there for 45 minutes because he couldn't get
back in the car.
That's how fucked up.
And threw up and just kept throwing up.
Brian Callen, you ever think you drive like an asshole?
No.
What in the fuck?
No, he just wasn't used to it.
Jesus.
Or maybe I just hugged those turns.
Or was he a...
I get super sick if I'm on my phone in the car.
Oh, you can't be on your phone when you're in the back?
On my phone?
You can't read books either.
Don't ever try to read a book when you're in the car, man.
It's your ears.
Yeah.
I get so sick when I do that.
Yeah, you have to...
I have to put my phone down, turn it off.
You have to concentrate on the horizon It'll slowly dissipate
But just focus on the horizon
I can read in that car
I can read, I can fuck
What?
Whoa, dude
While you're driving or when someone else is driving?
Well, the Tesla drives itself while Ryan gets sucked in the back
Fuck
I farted
The idea that you would be Driving one of those cars I'm trying to pound you. I farted.
The idea that you would be driving one of those cars and it runs out of batteries is what scares me the most.
I've had it happen.
Where?
It's a lie.
It never happened.
But I was on zero and I just made it into my driveway. I remember we were somewhere and you had to stop and charge it.
We had to look up a charge place.
And zero gets you how long?
And it pissed me off. I've only like a couple miles on zero so you don't want to fuck
with it but i i that happened to me twice very recently where i pulled into my to sony and they
plugged it and i was zero at zero but so it also takes forever it takes forever to fucking charge
it fill up yeah that's a bummer. Four hours will get you.
You need six hours to get 100%.
For 100%?
Really, seven hours.
Wow.
Yeah, depending.
If you're on the charger, if you're on the Tesla charger, you got an hour.
The powerful one?
You're in.
In an hour?
Yeah, even less.
Can you get those at your crib?
That's like, no.
It's expensive?
It's insanely.
I saw them at the movie theater the other day.
Yeah.
You can't get those
What movie did you see
We saw the
The new Wreck-It Ralph
Wreck-It Ralph
Oh is it good
Yes
It's very good
I'm gonna take my kid out tomorrow
It's weird though
Sarah Silverman's the voice
Of this little girl
She's great in it
So obviously Sarah Silverman
She's great in it
Yeah
But it's so obviously her
To me
I'm like oh hey Sarah
I liked her one hour
I saw half of it anyway
I really liked it
She's funny as shit man
She's a fucking good comic man
I've seen her murder She's a murderer She's a fucking good comic I've seen her murder
She's a murderer
She's such a good comic
Murder at the store
One of the best
Such a good comic
Sarah Silverman
One of the best
Very very good comic
Yep
I think maybe the best
Best female comic
Female
That's what I mean yeah
Dude Trevor Noah's special
On Netflix is funny as fuck
Is it
It's really funny
I heard mixed reviews
Really
Yeah since you said that
But I mean you know
It's all subjective You made me laugh Yeah It's all subjective You have a purple car Brian judges you It's really funny. I heard mixed reviews. Really? Yeah, since you said that. But I mean, it's all subjective.
You made me laugh.
Yeah, it's all subjective.
You have a purple car.
Brian judges you.
It's true.
Maybe we don't like the same humor.
No, I do.
What is it that infuriates you, the purple car?
It's just like-
Too peacocky?
He's just not your style at all.
No, no, no.
He's not peacocky.
It's just like, the way he dresses, he just, I know what he's going to do.
I know that that one Porsche wasn't enough.
And he's like, and I'll get a picture.
He'll just send me a random picture.
And I'm like, don't you fucking do it. Of course he needs the purple.
Do you think if you got rid of this Tesla,
and I know you want to have a car that has a backseat
where you can take your kids.
Yeah.
And you drove a 911.
I've driven one.
When was the last time?
When?
I drove Arnold Schwarzenegger's 911 Porsche Turbo.
When was that?
Because he put it up for sale, and my friend was selling it, and he said, I've got a surprise
for you.
In 88 or some shit?
No, it was like in 2000s.
2000s.
It's a great car, but the problem is it's just a lot of... I think it was a stick.
You know, in traffic and shit, I'm just too lazy.
I'm not a driver.
Well, first of all, you have to order a stick.
Most of them don't come with sticks. Yeah, this had a special interior like it was beautiful car yeah what i'm saying is if you drove one if you drove like a 911 an automatic one amazing huh
you would love it i'm sure yeah but then again i really love that tesla i i think my lease is up
so the question is do i get a panamera what What do I get? When's the lease up? March, but I can trade it in already.
Well, you know, there's benefits to both, right?
There's benefits to the electric thing.
It's pretty dope.
It's fast as shit.
Off the line, there's no gears, right?
So it's just like there's no shifting.
You don't care about speed, though, right?
I like pickup.
I like pickup.
And I like the fact that it parks itself,
and I like the fact that it drives itself in shitty traffic. If I'm in traffic, I'll go like pickup. I like pickup. And I like the fact that it parks itself, and I like the fact that it drives itself in shitty traffic.
If I'm in traffic, I'll go like that.
I hit this thing, and I just stand,
and it just drives in bumper to bumper,
and I never have to touch the wheel or the pedals.
Some people die with that.
Yeah, I hear you.
No, but you're going slow.
You know that stop and start?
That's tiring.
It's annoying.
Yeah.
Have your hand on the wheel a little bit lightly,
and just you can read a book.
I don't know about that.
Just drive the goddamn car, man. Once you have cars driving for you it's the future what the
fuck it's but we're all going to be doing hell no eventually well our kids aren't going to get
drivers kids aren't well now now driver license are way down kids aren't there's like we ubers
why would we drive you old fuck literally yeah really uber everywhere yeah driver license getting
driver's licenses they just uber Uber They just Uber It's so easy
Which is a little dangerous
Because those Uber drivers
Are weird as fuck
But we're going to have
Driverless Ubers
And then we're just going to get in
No way
Oh yeah
You're going to let a car
Drive itself
Like on a freeway
Eventually
On the freeway
Eventually
This new Tesla
Has so many cameras
Like it just parked for me
Like the download
I went
My buddy goes
Do you know how this works
My buddy Jeff
And I go no
And he goes
watch this and i pushed this park i stood there it parked it parallel parked so fast and well
so much better i didn't have to do i sat there and it just went i was like it made me feel like
less of a man but you get lazy no it's just easy after a while that's ridiculous hit a button
that so sounds like what people probably said when the printing press came out.
I know.
You're not going to write your words?
You're not going to get a parchment paper?
It's different.
I'm talking about safety.
Fuck that.
No, no.
I'm not talking about pride or anything like that.
I'm talking about you're going to be driving on the freeway 65 miles an hour.
Eventually, it's going to get so good.
No, I don't.
That would make me nervous.
Eventually.
That makes me nervous. Way more than other people. There's so so good. You're going to trust that shit? No, I don't. That would make me nervous. Eventually. Fuck no.
That makes me nervous.
Way more than other people.
There's so many accidents.
You know how many dumbasses there are?
How many people are reading their phone?
I watched some lady the other day.
I'm not worried about someone else.
I'm worried about the car that I'm in.
Reading her phone.
The car that I'm in.
Because she didn't know traffic was going?
She's in the middle lane.
Yeah.
Middle lane.
Just stopped dead.
A woman I work with, her mother was killed by a distracted driver texting.
Texting and driving.
Killed.
Killed her mother.
They say it's going to take over drunk driving and everything.
Texting and driving is going to be number one problem.
Every time I see someone driving fucked up, I always pull up next to them and they're always on their phone.
Always.
It's like 89, 90% of the time.
It's not good.
The other is just people just distracted.
They should make it so that your phone doesn't work while you're driving.
Right.
Your phone shuts off when you drive.
There's an option in the new iPhones.
There's an option that locks you out of everything.
Yeah, when you take those.
I'm driving right now.
I will give you a text back.
Yeah.
But I mean, one of these days it might be mandatory, right?
It should be.
You cannot be on your phone while you're driving.
Unfortunately, it might take a tragedy.
That is a law.
That is a law.
Yeah.
You can only have hands-free phones.
If you have a good hands-free system,
you can do a lot of shit.
Like, I can press the little button on my steering wheel
and say, call Eddie Bravo, and it'll call you.
You could also say, text Eddie Bravo.
You can say, text.
You can read.
It'll re-text to you.
It'll re-text to you if you have Apple CarPlay.
Yep.
But then the problem is, if you start getting pictures.
What do you mean, re-text?
What does that mean?
Read.
Oh, it'll read text. Yeah, it'll read your problem is if you start getting re-text. What does that mean? Read. Oh, it'll read text.
Yeah.
It'll read your text.
It'll read your text.
Nobody says
Brian County
said dick pic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Would you like to reply?
No.
Okay.
It's kind of cool.
It's kind of weird though.
It's,
it's,
they're going to have something.
This is whatever this is.
This is going to be nothing
compared to whatever they settle on 10 years from now fuck are we getting flying cars that's never gonna
take its form remember your joke about it your bitch i haven't heard it it's great is that on
your new no 2006 five no like 2001 or two no but it was old but it didn't get on something. Oh, okay. I went from 99 to 2005.
There was a long gap
where I didn't film anything.
That's where that bit's from.
99 to 2005?
Yeah.
A lot of special?
Yeah.
Why'd you do that?
Too busy.
That was the fear factor.
Oh, gotcha.
You weren't grinding with comedy,
so you didn't want to put on a special.
No.
Jet packs, remember?
Where are jet packs?
We were supposed to have those.
I was doing a lot of spots at the store 30 years ago traveling remember remember on chips on chips
like 1978 1980 that that um jetpacks back then and we still haven't mastered it but they're
getting pretty good though i have seen some videos yes i have seen some videos. Yes. I have seen some. Like Rocketeer? Yeah. They're getting better now.
I saw a guy in the NFL invest half of his salary into flying cars.
This was in 2003. Oh, no.
Yeah.
He's not doing well.
Oh, God.
It didn't work out.
Flying cars.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
That's not going to happen.
Imagine putting all your money.
Like, I'm going to get ahead of the curve.
Oh.
Too much shit works. Just banking on something like that, getting off the ground, getting approved, getting
licensed, not dropping out of the sky and killing infrastructure.
In 1980, we didn't think in 2018 we'd still have cars with rubber tires with engines.
They're basically the same thing.
It's just they look nicer.
Some countries are making gas cars illegal by 2020.
Well, the craziest thing is- are you serious yeah no they're not going to release the sale of gas cars yeah
they're making illegal whoa what about retro cars like are you allowed to keep your car from like
1980 i'm not sure china china in one year decided that uh their air was terrible and in one year
they basically said that you're going to use natural gas instead of coal and stuff like that in your home.
And I think that was what it was.
But China has the advantage of just going, hey, all you billion-plus people, no more.
And they changed it in a fucking year.
They just literally just changed the infrastructure.
So they'll be the first ones to have nothing but electric.
Yeah, they'll have electric cars.
Is this all of China?
Yeah, look that up.
Don't they still have coal plants and shit well they do but but people were using uh things like coal and gas or a fuel to um cook their food to uh heat their homes and and basically the
president said nah natural gas clean burning gas no more. Changed it in a year. The air is a lot better because the air was pretty bad, but they said the air was the worst in Beijing.
One thing about what you see in Beijing is nothing but unfinished buildings.
They'll build 20 of the same exact looking building in one area.
And it's so ugly, these giant buildings.
And that's the landscape.
And they're empty or just cranes,
and they're not working.
Why?
They overbuilt a lot.
Why'd they do that?
They have ghost cities.
They have huge cities where nobody lives in them, because they were essentially saying,
let's just build as many cities as we can, but they didn't have the population to move
them in, or the economy to support that city.
It's like North Korea, too, right?
They have a bunch of empty cities.
Well, it's also how they created jobs. Is that that uh also do you think a product of communism versus capitalism
because capitalism they would have had to have some sort of financial plan yes and it's a command
it's a command economy right so so why not just create jobs create jobs if everybody's working
just build a bunch of buildings whoa nobody has to in them, but just as long as we got people going in.
Downtown LA is kind of like that.
They're building new skyscrapers all the goddamn time, 24-7.
Yeah, but they're selling the shit out of them.
That's the difference between-
The marketplace dictates.
You have developers that take huge risk, and they say, I'm going to build this in the hopes
that I can fill that retail space, office space.
China, there's not the
same pressures yeah you know china's an economy of influence too a lot of times you're not doing
business unless you've got you know connections with the people that okay your permits etc i mean
fuck it's so lucky we don't live in a dictatorship like that like if you're stuck under the boot of
something like north korea you're stuck under the boot of something like north korea
you're stuck under the and we just could could have got a shit roll of the dice of course born
in there i think about it all the time especially because i lived in those countries as a kid
right you you we take a lot of our freedoms for granted but at the same time they're always under
threat yeah i think from from companies like the fact that so much information is concentrated in so
few companies, like Facebook, like Google.
I worry about the consolidation of power.
Yes, they have political agendas.
That's the real issue.
The real issue is that they lean politically.
But they almost should be completely neutral and just allow or not allow things based on whether or not it violates their
rules but that's not really the case no and also the way the way campaign finance works like the
way you have to have money it's changing a little but if you don't have money as a politician you
better say what your finance the people that are financing your campaign they'll tell you they'll give you a sheet on what to say if you don't do that you're not in congress the next what you're financing. The people that are financing your campaign, they'll tell you.
They'll give you a sheet on what to say.
If you don't do that, you're not in Congress the next time you're around.
You have to listen to the people that put you there.
And that's a problem.
It costs a lot of money to get elected.
You've got to have very clear rules.
If you're going to have rules in terms of what what you can and can't say they have to apply to everyone regardless of race or regardless of gender ethnicity and they don't right like one of the things that Brett Weinstein tweeted the
other day that I retweeted was some woman who wrote all white people are
racist and she just went on this this anti white screed like you just can't
say that that's dumb right it's a dumb generalization, and it's racist.
Right.
And you don't think it's racist because it's racist against white people, but it's racist.
Right.
It's so stupid that you allow that, but you don't allow racism against other races.
Well, what's funny is that they're thinking the same way.
Their methodology is the same as the people they're criticizing.
Yeah.
So it's always cracking up.
It's racist.
It's not what you think.
It's how you think that makes more of a difference, right?
So you're thinking like a racist.
I know that you have
a different kind of racism,
but it's still racist.
Well, they think it's justified
in their shitty way
of doing the math.
It's not.
Yeah, it's not.
They're not that smart.
That's the other thing.
Is that what I noticed
about ideologues?
Barely.
It's been sitting there
for three hours.
It's coughing.
But the way you get elected
and stay elected
is you tow the...
Like, if you want to have
sort of anti-Wall Street legislation,
certain things.
So swipe fees.
Swipe fees on your ATM.
That's a huge issue.
And it doesn't affect a lot of us,
but it affects a corporation
that's a bank's bottom line.
And that becomes... You better vote favorably or you're going to have a problem.
But I think more and more Americans are realizing that money in politics is a big problem.
It is.
How the fuck would you ever get it out?
I don't know.
It's always been that way.
The question is, does your government represent you?
Right.
Right.
So gerrymandering and how campaigns
are financed drives me nuts how quiet eddie is during all this i'm thinking about distinguished
gentlemen remember eddie murphy when he when he became a politician i don't remember that one
old school man did i see that one i might not have said that might be the one that i've never
saw he wanted to be a politician because he found out the damn that that's that's where you make the
money yeah so he well you made money later just like you know just taking bribes and all that shit but then he gets
a conscience then he does the right thing at the end but a congressman spends a u.s congressman
spends between 30 and 70 percent of his time or her time on the phone to people they don't know
trying to raise money okay so and you're not allowed to do that on government property so
what you do is you go across the street. You're sitting in your car.
You can go across the street in the capital.
They're in their car, and they're making phone calls.
They're giving a list.
And you make a phone call, and you spend 30% to 70% of your time doing that to raise money.
There's something wrong with that.
That's kind of fucked up.
Whenever I hear people talk too much about politics, even myself included, my own words,
I'm like, you're talking about a rigged game.
It's like you're talking about pro wrestling.
It's like you're talking about something that's, you're pretending that it's real.
But you know, of course the government is corrupt as fuck.
But when you're talking about stuff like that, like are the elections rigged?
Do our votes count?
The one thing that I learned from these midterms is that if your vote didn't count and it's all decided like pro wrestling,
then there wouldn't be all this voter fraud and all these computers that can, you know.
But voter fraud is not what I'm talking about.
I'm not talking about voting.
I'm talking about the way once you're in office, the way things get handled.
I get it.
I get it.
But what I'm saying is, from the elections, you see that your votes do matter.
There's a lot of corruption and fraud going on.
But if it was all rigged like WWE, they wouldn't need to do all that.
They were like, you still got to vote.
So it's still the real system. Because a so it's still it's still the real system
right because a lot of people think it's not a real system like it doesn't matter they already
decide and they're just going to put them in no the way they they actually decide is is they decide
who they're going to rig the machines for yes but the votes still count you just got to make sure
that there's no uh you know shenanigans going on. The votes most certainly do count, but where it gets really squirrely,
and this is where politics get goofy,
is in why do politicians do what they do?
Do they do what they do to support the people,
or do they do what they do
because special interest groups have influenced them?
Yeah, they get, you know,
there's way more of that.
Well, not only that,
here's what's really wild.
So Capitol Hill, when you're in Congress,
they call that the farm team,
because in Capitol Hill, you spend six years, seven years, let's just say you're a senator. Now, when you're a senator for, I don't know, 10 years, when you're on Capitol Hill for as a congressman for six for 10 years, you develop real connections and relationships with government officials who make decisions.
make decisions. You also understand how government works. You understand who's actually influencing who. So now what do you do? So let's say you lose an election or let's say you decide,
I made my 160 grand a year, can't really live on that money. You go to K Street, you join a
lobbying firm. And because you've been there for six or nine or 10 years, you know a lot of people.
And that lobbying firm goes hey we'll pay
a million dollars now and all you got to do is drive to capitol hill every day get in there and
influence use your connections so that we we can get what we want from government so corporations
hiring lobbying firms to lobby for their bottom line. So now you're working to influence government.
And the problem is when you're in Congress, you know that.
You know you have a job waiting if you can make great connections.
And now Washington becomes an economy of influence.
That's the game, right?
Yes.
I'm fucking, you got to have Lawrence Lessig on your goddamn podcast.
He can explain.
He's a Harvard professor.
That motherfucker.
You keep telling me about the podcast you did with him. He'll it down i did yeah listen to that i'll say i sent it
to you i think it's lawrence lessig he's he's he breaks it down he wrote a book called republic
lost and he's got a couple ted talks but that dude takes work yes and basically he said your
government doesn't represent you and here's why here's how it works when he breaks it down you go how it works. When he breaks it down, you go,
it's simple the way he breaks it down
because he's a constitutional scholar
out of Harvard,
but you're like,
fuck!
And what he said was fascinating.
He said,
Washington's a place where
even if you're a good person,
you must behave in a corrupt manner
if you want to survive.
And that's when you have problems.
When good people have to behave corruptly.
Yeah, the bright side of all that
The bright side of all that
Is
The fact that there
Is like
People getting suicided
And bribery going on
That means that there's hope
That there's good people
Inside the government
That you gotta watch
You gotta watch your ass
Or you know
We gotta hire someone
To kill you
Because we don't want
To go to jail
So the fact that
All that's done out of fear.
They can just get you out.
Yeah, it depends on what it is.
What I'm saying is the fact that there is all that bribery and suiciding, that means that there's good people in there that are going after the bad people.
To me, I look at the bright side.
I used to think there was no hope.
I used to think, fuck it.
To me, I look at the bright side.
I used to think there was no hope.
I used to think, fuck, like when the Bushes were in office, Clinton, Obama, I was like, I didn't pay attention to shit.
I just said, they're all corrupt.
It's all rigged.
And it's all, you know, there's nothing you could do about it.
But, you know, over the last couple years, you know, since Trump got into office, now I'm like paying attention.
Like there are some good people trying to do some good shit. Like Trey Gdy listen to that motherfucker trey gowdy's a bad motherfucker what are you talking
about gates no politicians these people the congressman oh man there are some great people
going after the bad people that's why there needs to be bribes and suiciding and blackmail the reason
there's blackmail is because there's good people in there if everybody was bad they would why would
you blackmail anybody well the problem is it's really subtle the way they
can get you out though because when your donors are telling you which way to vote you're you as
a politician go in there with all your ideas and you can't vote your conscience yeah there's a lot
of bad shit there's a lot of bad shit you gotta vote for the money you're preaching to the choir
over here i'm not you know i'm not gonna defend so you fix that so so lawrence lessig has one of
the ideas he talks about is anonymous donations so so watch you're a politician right i'm a
corporation right i give your uh or and i threw a super pack or whatever it might be i give your
campaign a lot of money now you're a regular dude you're not corrupt but human beings when
somebody gives them a real hand when they needed it you can't help but to feel a little indebted.
Of course.
What if all – what if there are two ideas?
What if you had a voucher system where all of us were given a certain amount of money every election cycle,
and we were allowed anonymously to give that money to whoever we thought was a viable candidate?
It'd be anonymous.
Or what if all donations were anonymous
what if you didn't if you couldn't say who it was from but if you know you got a lot of stuff from
ge or you know you got a lot of stuff from lockheed and there's a bill that comes up for
saudi arabia to buy a bunch of tanks or whatever or weaponry it's going to be very hard for you
to vote against that and if you do those people that got you in power last time aren't going to get you in power the next time.
They basically figured out a way to make bribing legal.
They just give you stuff and hook you up and take care of you and add money to your campaign,
but then don't exactly tell you what to do.
But you know what the fuck's going on.
The book to read is Republic Lost.
That's a fucking good book.
Is it on audio?
Yes, it's amazing.
And get Lawrence Lessig on your goddamn podcast.
He'll break it down. All right, let's do it.
I need you to relax a little.
I get excited about it.
Because when you say campaign finance reform is so boring, right?
Right.
The minute I hear that, I go like this.
I've read a book, two books on it, and I'm like, oh, I get bored.
I get tired right away.
But it's so important.
They've got to figure out some way to stop these giant corporations from influencing politicians.
They've got to find
some way it's got to become illegal there is they're influencing everybody there's money tv
shows and everybody there's money to be made no matter what yeah the idea is that they want so
much so that anything that threatens that money the real true marketplace they want they want to
put the fucking brakes to that but you're supposed to have. It's supposed to cancel each other out, though.
So ideally, there's nothing wrong
with petitioning your government. That's in the Constitution.
So you can lobby your government. It's called petitioning your government.
You're allowed to.
The problem is not that donating money to your campaign.
But isn't lobbying
illegal in some countries?
Probably.
The problem with lobbying,
so Citizens United... But what countries would they be illegal in? I think maybe Holland. countries uh probably the problem with lobbying so citizens united wouldn't if we made lobbying
i think maybe uh holland i think i think lobbying because that's what uh but lobbying the problem
with making lobbying illegal is it's part of free speech that's what it was ruled in the supreme
court so citizens united so in other words if i want to give money to you you're a politician
and and i want i want eddie bravo to
be president right i should be able to exercise my right as a citizen and support you which means
you want so i want to amplify your voice that means you need money so to tell me i can't give
money to the person i like is a restriction of free speech and that i think is that i think that
was the citizens united supreme court you know there's another problem the other problem is when
subjects like this get brought up and and this is one of the most
important subjects that we could ever discuss, like how our world gets run.
Yes.
I get bored as fuck.
I know.
You get bored as fuck.
He turns out to be a zombie.
I've been staring at the wall for the last 30 minutes.
Isn't it funny?
I understand.
I get it.
You don't want to have to deal with it.
It's just not my cup of tea.
You don't want to have to deal with it.
But it affects all of us deeply.
You want to be like these North Sentinel people.
I feel like there's nothing we can do about it.
I'm like, dude, I've never been so into politics ever.
I'm fucking balls deep in it.
I love it.
It's like Game of Thrones, but it's for real and it affects your life.
It does affect your life.
It's real shit.
There's real Game of Thrones going on right now, and it's so entertaining to find out
what the fuck.
Instead of watching a goddamn TV show that does nothing for your life,
it's like Game of Thrones really going on right now if you pay attention.
Yeah, but they're on season 111.
I watch TV shows so that I could just have fun.
Yeah, I'm not saying don't do that.
I'm not saying don't do that.
But I don't.
You can do both.
Those things freak me the fuck out.
And you can do both.
You can do both.
But if you really start paying attention too much to politics, and I have a bunch of friends that are really into politics.
Especially right now.
And they can talk to you about it.
You just should.
But let me ask all of you this.
So as far as like not standing out of politics or whatever, what if, this is where it comes down to, we all have kids here.
So now there is a legislative agenda, whatever it might be, and it's an agenda that says we want to teach your kids something like, let's just say because the social scientists and academia wins their way, gets into the ear of politicians, which happens all the time, and politicians say all schools, public schools at least, where my kids go, are going to teach that there's a zero biological difference or zero difference between men and women.
Oh, and by the way, ready?
Evolution is a theory, and we're going to put it on the same standings as creationist
theory, too.
That's going to be on the curriculum?
I.e.
School Board in Kansas, I think at one point, had that going on.
So wait a minute.
My kid's going private.
Are you saying the same people that say there's no biological basis?
I'm just saying what happens if you stay out of this debate
and the wrong people win, they push their ideas forward,
which usually have a political agenda.
You might be faced with a situation where somebody's trying to educate your kid
in things that you not only disagree with but are factually incorrect.
So this happens.
This is where it starts getting personal. it can get real weird like there was this thing from nature the other day
that uh i retweeted because brett weinstein uh weinstein had uh brought it up and he was like
this is really disturbing that these people are making this distinction it was talking about the difference between biological sex and uh and real there's i don't want to misquote it so i'll find out the exact
thing but they're essentially promoting social justice principles over scientific principles
and it's supposed to be a company that specializes in science. So instead of just being scientific,
they're scientific with a very clear progressive political twist to it.
And you're like, well, just because something's inconvenient
doesn't mean it's incorrect.
Just because something's uncomfortable doesn't mean it's not true.
And there's things that you might have your own personal beliefs
and values and ethics, but that's not what we're counting on
when you're a science journal.
We're counting on just facts.
That's it.
And they're not doing that.
Did you see the, I think I sent you this YouTube thing?
To say this proposal has no foundation in science is nonsense.
The genitals.
So this is what it is.
Like, go to the, pull up the nature one first so I can read that.
Nature won first.
I can read that.
The U.S. editorial, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services proposes to establish a legal definition of whether someone is male or female based on the genitals they are born with. This proposal has no foundation in science and should be abandoned.
And this is the journal Nature.
So the problem with that is what Brett Weinstein very succinctly says.
To say, in quotes, this proposal has no foundation in
science which is what they said he says is nonsense right the genitals one one is born
with show overwhelming correlation with one's self-assessed gender as predicted by evolutionary
theory if we grant nature's claim we condemn the study of complex phenomena to a dark age there you go that's a
classic fucking example and nature should know better but they have a political agenda where'd
that come from they were influenced by strong forces probably on the radical left in this in
this instance there are other forces on the other side that's where the wind is going and if you
support that you get way more love than you get hate right there's currency to it you lick your
finger you find out where the wind's going like to say that there's no correlation is fucking And if you support that, you get way more love than you get hate. There's currency to it. You lick your finger.
You find out where the wind's going.
To say that there's no correlation is fucking bananas.
We're all men.
And that's controversial, by the way.
It's controversial to say it.
Well, there's a lot of nonsense going on right now that I think will eventually be sorted out once the dust settles.
But I think this is just a wave of information.
It goes left.
It goes right.
Everybody's battling it out and because people are more concerned with their side winning than they are with actual facts right a
lot of really stupid ideas get supported and instead of objectively analyzed for whether or
not they contain truth there's pushback with kids though so my buddy my buddy's son is 15 and he was
they like it's all about gender and and you, you know, educating you on gender and high school people choose their pronouns.
So when you're in college,
my nephew who was in college with 18 years old,
they said,
say your name and,
and please tell us what pronoun you would like to be referred to class.
Yes.
Right.
First,
first day orientation.
What school is this?
So,
so now the kids,
now the kids,
now the kids though,
as they're being taught this by their fucking teachers,
cause they're kids. They're like the fuck out of here. So my friend goes, look, as they're being taught this by their fucking teachers, because they're kids, they're like, the fuck out of here.
So my friend goes, look at that.
Look at that butterfly.
Isn't he beautiful?
And his son goes, dad, do you have any idea how hurtful it is to that butterfly?
You have no idea what that butterfly's gender is.
And they're all fucking around now.
So there's pushback on that shit.
You can't get too crazy.
Well, I would hope there's some pushback
but there's also
some really easily
No,
there's some really
influenced people,
easily influenced people
that are adopting
all this stuff.
Of course.
Way more so than it was
when we were growing up.
Of course.
So even if there's pushback.
Indoctrination is the right word too.
Yes.
You could get kids
to believe in anything.
I used some,
MKUltra and my son too.
I said,
you know what,
I'm going to make him
a Cleveland Browns fan.
We flew to Cleveland, watched a Cleveland Browns, and all he wanted was a Baker Mayfield
jersey.
He wants to be like Dad, though.
And I'm like, fucking work.
He wants to be like Dad.
But that's what happens.
Yeah, but that's what happens.
He got into Cleveland Browns on one trip.
He's all for it.
It's hard, though, to keep a theory going that doesn't really have any basis in science.
At the end of the day, it's kind of banked.
It's going to fizzle out over time.
And I don't think they're very smart.
I think they're political, and I don't think they're very smart.
I don't think their scholarship is deep.
Men, women, people born as men but think they're women, people born as women think they're men,
people that think they're both, that's five.
It's very rare.
And then what else?
They said there's like 60 of them or something.
78 different gender pronouns, but that's because no one has agreed on what the gender pronoun
should be.
So if you decide that yours is Z-I-R, and I said, no, mine is Z-Y-R-E.
I need someone to explain all this.
It's an obsession.
What a waste of time.
They're people that want to be special.
This is a big part of what everybody wants.
You got to go to school to find out if you're a guy?
Come on.
You got to take courses?
I know you think you're a guy.
I know you think you're a guy, but we're going to find out for sure in six months.
You know what Sam Harris said that I fucking loved?
He said, right now, the one thing to keep in mind is that being offended is not an argument and it's not a
virtue so you can't just shut the conversation down because you're offended and you're taking
issue with what i say that ain't an argument and it sure as fuck ain't a virtue but that's what's
going on when what's her name heather mcdonald's that her name she was speaking at uh she was
speaking at a college and there was a law student he was just giving her the finger the whole time and all she
was trying to do is talk about you know something that was based in science and heather mcdonald uh
what's her name comic no she's a she's a professor a journalist a professor of journalism i think
and uh she's a very reasonable kind of like clear. It doesn't matter, man. People are struggling so hard to find things to be offended at that they're pointing at targets that aren't viable.
And they're throwing all their weight into it.
And when it doesn't work, they back out and they try someone new.
That's right.
You know, Christina Hoff Summers.
You ever see the things that she did where she was trying to speak and they were shouting her down and making all this noise in the crowd.
They're trying to boo her off the stage.
They're trying to silence people because it's something that you can do.
You can get it done.
Because they're afraid of their ideas.
They don't think their ideas can compete.
It's a game, man.
It's a game.
Something to do.
They're on one side.
She's on the other.
They wrote for the Browns.
She's with the Raiders.
That's what it is, man.
That's right.
Teams.
It's 100% what it is.
What are your feelings on the caravan situation?
What do you guys think about that?
Why is it any different from all the people that are getting in here every day?
It's a fake thing we're supposed to be paying attention to.
What exactly happened with the caravan?
They're making a big publicity event out of these people that want to come to America.
They're all coming together.
They want asylum.
They came from Guatemala.
They came from Honduras.
So MS-13 and this other gang are the biggest employers there.
If you don't join them, you get your family killed.
Nice guys.
And I think that these people are desperate.
They're essentially refugees from a place that's intolerable to live.
But they're making it this really big political deal.
It's very publicized.
Totally.
And apparently they're not always walking.
Sometimes they get in the vans and people drive in places.
You're saying that we shouldn't let them in? I don't know what you're saying. I'm not saying that we shouldn't let them in or we should let them in. This is what I'm saying. and apparently they're not always walking sometimes they get in the vans and people drive in places and they get out and start walking again
I'm not saying that we shouldn't let them in
or we should let them in, this is what I'm saying
what's the issue?
people don't want them in, they're illegal immigrants
but what's interesting to me is
if you come from Cuba, you can just come
if you get on a boat
if you get over here in America
we're like, you made it bro, come on in
but if you try from Guatemala, we're like, no, sorry
son, Ronald Patchett, dirt.
Find another country. Don't take our food stamps.
Because of MS-13, right?
Because of that, it's really bad.
But they have horrible murders in New York.
We just made
an agreement that anybody who's
trying to escape the kind of shitty situation
they have in Cuba will allow that.
Oh, I got you.
I got you.
Will allow that.
But if you're from Colombia.
Yeah, I mean, if you're Yoel Romero and you come over from Cuba.
Yes.
That's true.
Because you're a communist country.
We'll take you.
And people think that all Mexicans are for the caravan and we want them in.
No.
That's not true.
No.
Most Mexicans are like, hey.
Immigration is complicated.
Find another country. You ain't getting our welfare. You know what I mean? Mexicans are like, hey, you know what? Immigration is complicated. Find another country.
You ain't getting our welfare.
You know what I mean?
Mexicans ain't down for that caravan.
They want them turned away, too.
It's a complicated emotional issue, man.
It's like I always do this joke where I believe in borders, but I'd be a shitty border control agent, right?
Like, I do think borders are reasonable, but nobody gets over it.
And then I'd be like, oh, the kids.
Fuck it.
Come on.
Nobody's looking.
I think Americans feel that way. It's know it's a it's a hard do you
live in a gated community no okay i mean yes all right no it is a it's like the idea that there's
a real country that there's a place where you can go in a place where you can't go and like you have
to have papers and they make make across this line the dirt like they've set up fences and borders
well the service industry needs that labor.
The only reason that exists, right?
I mean, if you think about the United States, right?
The United States essentially is not just a country.
It's a collection of different areas, right?
And each different area has its own culture,
almost their own language.
You know, the way they talk in Florida
is way fucking different than the way they talk in Maine.
It's really weird.
It's all the same language,
but it's almost like they're separate little countries.
And we travel amongst each other, no problem.
And you're allowed to.
You're allowed to bail out.
I'm going to try to Vegas for a while.
I'm going to get me a job at a casino.
Nobody cares.
Like, you're fine as long as you're on this one patch of dirt.
But the reason why we don't allow all the other patches of dirt to do the same thing
and everybody just flow freely is because there's some spots that just don't have it good at all.
And we want those people to stay there.
Although.
Like you haven't.
Although.
Your spot you haven't fixed.
You know what the connective.
You haven't fixed your spot.
But you know what the connective tissue is for Americans?
Besides.
Even though that's true.
The connective tissue that I think a lot of countries don't have is that the one thing we have going for, even if it's a myth for a lot of people.
Freedom.
The one thing all Americans have going for them is the idea that there's a chance if I do the right thing, I may be poor now.
Oh, American dream.
But I could be a fucking millionaire.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
That shit is so, but that's what keeps the sort of
people who have nothing
from creating a revolution
yeah
but if we lose that
if we
if you start thinking
that's not for them
like you can't let
everybody in
right
but you can let
everybody in from Kentucky
if everybody from Kentucky
decided to move to LA
we would just have to
deal with it
it's America
they got citizenship
that's what I'm saying
like it's odd
the reason why we can't
have world citizenship is because
some places suck too hard.
You don't want nationalism?
I'm not saying that it's good or bad.
I'm just looking at it as a thing right now.
If I had to say, do I like it?
Honestly, I think the whole world
as the human beings as a race
would be way better off if everybody
could move where it's good. And then we would figure
out why there's too many people where it's good and then it'll
settle down and you move to a better spot and then eventually even out yeah
you know the reason why never happened but you never even the reason why I
got in segregated areas don't advance like these people in Sentinel Island so
kind of a fucked up example say in silent they're not going anywhere like
this is they're wearing leaves over their dicks.
Right.
But they like that shit.
But do they?
But Joe, the European
Union is that.
You and I would, by
the way, you and I are
morons.
If we were living on
that island, we would
be having leaves over
our dick too.
It's not like, oh, I'm
just going to invent a
satellite.
These fucking morons.
We don't know how to
do any of that stuff.
So we would be with
them just with a
greater understanding
of what's possible
for the people around. But what you just said
is happening in the European Union.
That's why a lot of Polish people come over to the UK
and they come back.
And there's also what they're
doing now with immigration is freaking a lot of
people out because they're allowing so many people
of different cultures to come in and then
their cities become more
multicultural than they are English
and then it gets real weird.
But the other problem is that when you have one currency,
currencies used to be based on the productivity of their citizenry, right?
So when you have currency, everybody has the same currency,
which means it's all valued at the same thing.
The problem is that people in Spain are not as productive as people in Germany, for example.
So the German goods and services should be worth more or the dollar
there that the euro there should be worth more than it is say in you know spain isn't it better
when the state has more power than the than the fed well it's like countries is that better that's
basically what because the argument is is we're like a band of countries like california is a
country but isn't that better though when isn't it better for the people when the state has so
then that would mean you know at the same rate you know it's better to have a country. Nevada is a country. But isn't that better, though? Isn't that better for the people when the state has... It's better for the people. So then that would mean, at the same rate, it's better to have a country like the United
States than to be...
Right.
So the Republic...
The thing is, with states, you can go to any state.
Yeah.
With countries, you can't go to any country.
Try getting in Japan.
I mean, Japan, I mean...
Yeah, you can't get in there.
You can't get in there.
You can't get in there.
You can't get in there.
I'm not hating on Japan.
It took like 10 Syrians, I think, or something.
What'd you say? What's that? The Japanese took like 10 Syrians or something. Try getting into Canada wrong with that. I'm going to hate on Japan. It took like 10 Syrians, I think, or something. What'd you say?
The Japanese took like 10 Syrians.
Try getting into Canada.
Try that.
Try getting into Canada.
That's way harder than the United States.
They have a very liberal immigration policy.
No, Canada's actually a beast to live in because the celebrity's like, oh, I'm so sick of America's
ways.
I'm headed to Canada.
If you have a DUI, they won't let you in.
It's true.
It's a beast.
A DUI.
If you have a DUI, they won't let you in. No. I got to's a beast. A DUI. If you have a DUI, they won't let you in.
No.
I got to pee.
That's crazy.
Boys, let's wrap this bitch up.
Let's wrap this up.
It's 3.20.
We watched a couple of fights.
I feel like we watched.
I'm in New York next Friday, Saturday.
Are you doing stand-up comedy in New York City?
Correct.
Are you doing Gotham Comedy Club?
Yes, sir.
I love that spot.
Thank you.
Such a great place.
Can I throw a plug?
And then shoot my one hour
showtime special january 19th january 19th san diego motherfucker tinfoil hat comedy chicago
december 15th at zany's me and sam triply gonna gonna website website uh just zany's in chicago
december he doesn't have like a tinfoil comedy.com or something like that i'll be at the irvine
improv for new year's. Yeah!
Beautiful.
Irvine, that fucking new spot's sweet.
I heard it's really sweet.
You went to it?
Yeah, yeah, I've done it.
Yeah, I love it.
Is it newer than the last one?
Well, how new is it?
Did it move again?
Oh, no.
Brea is all new.
Brea's big now.
Brea's all new.
I'm talking Irvine's been like this for like four years.
Irvine's great.
The spectrum's great.
It's awesome.
Yeah, it's dope.
Can I shot a special there?
That's right, bitch.
I was there. Okay, fuck. I was there before you even did comedy's great. It's awesome. Yeah, it's dope. Can I shot a special there? That's right, bitch. I was there.
Okay, fuck.
I was there before you even did comedy, son.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
I was in the back.
You hadn't done comedy yet.
That's right.
That's right.
Dude, you were in the crowd.
Fuck.
No, I was in the back.
You were in the crowd at one show, I think, weren't you?
Yeah, he was in the crowd.
Oh, yeah.
I was in the back, then went to the crowd.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah, because I opened up for Kron.
All right.
Bye everybody.
See ya.
We love you guys
and girls
and everybody else.
You guys want to go see
Tito Chuck Liddell?
I don't know.
Is it going to be on?