The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - November 28, 2015

Episode Date: November 28, 2015

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub, Ben Saunders & Eddie Bravo to watch the fights on November 28, 2015. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Two, one, yee-haw! And we're live, ladies and gentlemen. This is a Fight Companion podcast. What that means is, if you've tuned in hoping to hear enlightening conversation or facts about the universe or ancient civilizations or- Run. You've come to the wrong place, bitches. This is a bunch of people that shouldn't be awake, but are awake. Oh, wow. of people that shouldn't be awake but are awake. It's 5 a.m. I'm with Eddie Bravo, aka Eddie Bravo. Holla. Killer B, Ben Saunders, is up in this bitch. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:00:34 And then, of course, Brendan motherfucking Sharp, aka Big Brown. Yeah. Aka Big Brown Sexy. And we're here watching the UFC live from North Korea. And the first fight's about to happen. Sam Sicilia versus Do Ho Choi. I think it's Che. I think they pronounce it Che.
Starting point is 00:00:54 But so if you've never heard these podcasts before, what we do is we get together and we just watch the fights and we talk shit. And we do a lot of the MMAma world's journalism for them because a lot of them they they rely on us for stories what if those bitches are up what if those bitches are up they're up they're up right now they're just waiting right now greasy pencils in their hands so tired cheeto fingers just fucking one one day this is well one day when i'm tired of traveling this is what we're gonna do This was fucking tough dude That was a hard one So
Starting point is 00:01:28 I have a long ass day I gotta go to San Diego And teach a seminar And then after that seminar I got A friend of mine Asked me to be in a music video So I'm doing that too
Starting point is 00:01:37 So I'm like Fuck So it's gonna be a hard one You're a video vixen Oh my god Like the chick from Whitesnake Video vixen Like the chick from Whites like the chick from white snake
Starting point is 00:01:45 so last night i decided you know the only way i'm going to be able to pull this off is if i go to sleep like at eight and i go how the fuck am i going to go to sleep at eight i had a couple ambience so i took one ambience and i took it like around 6 30 and i'm like feeling kind of loopy and then he calls me and goes hey dude do you have another ambient i'm not going to be able to sleep i'm like feeling kind of loopy. And then he calls me and goes, hey, dude, do you have another Ambien? I'm not going to be able to sleep. I'm like, fuck, you're going to have to drive over to my house. So Ben comes over. Ben comes over. By the time he comes over, I'm fucking out.
Starting point is 00:02:12 He's knocking on the door. He's texting me and says, I'm cold. It's cold out here. It's cold. It's freezing. I wake up two hours later. I look at the text. He's long gone. He's like, I'm cold. It's freezing out here. So I wake up two hours later. I look at the text. He's long gone.
Starting point is 00:02:26 He's like, I'm cold. It's freezing out here, bro. You must be out. So I call him back. I'm like, fuck, dude. I'm sorry. That Ambien just crushed me. So then he came back.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Did you actually come back? Yeah. I left it in my mailbox. But from that point on, I couldn't go back to sleep. I'm just sitting there and then I got really really Medicated and and then that was weird being all loopy on Ambien and then stoned at the same time Oh, dude, I was breaking down some shit from like when I was 15 like shit I was bringing back memories that I never thought I'm like, holy it was so I was up all goddamn night
Starting point is 00:03:03 I didn't really get any sleep. I don't know how I'm going to do this. I really don't. Just hang in there, baby. You'll be fine. You'll figure it out. It's cold. You're talking.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Everything's good. How long did you wait out there? Hey, do you know what new vigil is? Not too long, man. I knew you were out. Do you know what new vigil is, Eddie? New vigil? You ever heard of new vigil?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Nuh-uh. Some shit that fighter pilots take. It's something that, like, I think the official use for it is for people that have narcolepsy. But it's like a pill that helps you stay awake, like when you're really tired. But it's not like speed. It's real weird. It's a notch under speed? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:41 We'll talk about it. Well, I get some of that. I know a dude. Oh, really? I know a dude. It's going to be a hard fucking... We'll talk about it. But yeah, we'll talk about it. Well, I get some of that. I know a dude. Oh, really? I know a dude. It's going to be a hard fuck. I got to drive two hours after this. Homie, you're going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Nah, you got this. Plus, we got plenty of these. These Caveman coffees, one of these little fuckers has 240 milligrams of caffeine. That's basically what I just drank, right? Yeah. Well, no, that's just coffee. That's pretty strong. The same Caveman?
Starting point is 00:04:04 It is, but it's not one of these nitro things. It's little nitro things. That's like a super espresso shot. It's like a double espresso or a triple espresso with some fucking nitrogen. I don't know. Tate tried to explain to me how they do it. It tastes like the Guinness of coffee, right? I love it.
Starting point is 00:04:19 There's like a foam on it. I love that shit, too. Yeah, yeah. There's a whole box of them right here. Oh, shit. I love them. I love these nitros, but they're fucking super strong. Like, they're rocket fuel.
Starting point is 00:04:28 240 is like a Venti Starbucks, and it's all in this one little can. I can fuck with that. How much is in a Rockstar? Like, one of those regular-sized cans? That's a good question, because they break those bitches up in servings. Yes. You have to do the math. It says, do not consume all in one day and shit.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Dude, you ever drink one of those red lines? Yes. Dude, I drank one of those red lines. I swear I was going to have a heart attack. My heart was like a hummingbird, man. I'll never do it again. Here we go. Sam Sicilia.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Sam Sicilia hits hard. That dude is an interesting character. He's super game, Sam Sicilia. Oh, he got tagged. He said footwork. Nah. He got tagged Look at that Good butterfly
Starting point is 00:05:08 Footwork for the birds Did you think Everybody up with this No I haven't Thank you Eddie Four minutes And twenty eight seconds Right now
Starting point is 00:05:16 Of the first round With I think Like I said It's spelled Choi But I think it's Chick Oh shit Jesus Christ Sam Sicilia Brings the thunder man That dude's fun Hell yeah Like I said, it's spelled Choi, but I think it's Chick. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:05:27 See, Sam Sicilia brings the thunder, man. That dude's fun. Hell yeah, this is fun. Oh, man. Uppercuts. He fights, like, with his hands way low. Way low. Eddie, you can just pass that joint around.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I'm not mad that you should do that. Eddie's sitting there, like, smoking on a hot... Like a cigar. In a cafe. In a cafe somewhere. I told him, the petty that you know is not the petty of today. smoking a cigar. In a cafe. In a cafe somewhere. I told him, the petty that you know is not the petty of today. The booze of life.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Oh, shit. I'll tell you. Oh, snap. Big Brown, you want some of this? I know. I'm good, man. Scared as fucking weed. Things could get weird.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I smoked that. Weird? You want headlines. Let me smoke that and release the hounds. Let me smoke that and release the hounds. Let me smoke that and release the hounds. We haven't talked publicly since the Ronda fight. Oh, no, we haven't.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Oh, Sam's out. He's out. Oh, damn it. Enjoy that fight back to the States. Oh, my God. He got cracked. Fuck, that was a crunk fight. That was wild for the first round.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I'm not mad at a guy's turtleneck in Korea Damn Those people Why are they so happy? Are super psyched A Korean guy won The Korean knocked the fuck out of him That's racist
Starting point is 00:06:32 Cecilia No they like it Hell yeah It's not racist It's okay to be racist Like at sporting events right? No it's not okay to be racist But you can be proud
Starting point is 00:06:40 To be from a country Exactly You can hate the other guy Since he's not from your country That was when I forget who it was but when um uh what the fuck is his name god damn it mike pie was fighting i'm trying to remember his name uh he fought this cat in brazil and uh funch i think it was funch and he knocked him out and uh it was just a straight clean victory everything is good no poor sportsmanship everything was great said nice things in the and he knocked him out. And it was just a straight, clean victory.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Everything was good. No poor sportsmanship. Everything was great. Said nice things in the post-fight interview. But all they're doing is chanting something. The whole crowd's chanting something. I can't figure out what they're chanting. So I asked the translator, and he says they're basically chanting
Starting point is 00:07:19 the Brazilian version of You're a Faggot. Oh, damn. The whole crowd. The whole crowd. Dude, 15,000got. Oh, damn. The whole crowd. The whole crowd. Dude, Brazil doesn't fuck around. When I fought Noguera, the whole crowd was chanting one thing. I was the same thing. They were chanting one thing.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I was like, damn, I'm going to fucking hit out here, man. I turned around to my coach, who speaks Portuguese. I go, what are they saying? He's like, you really want to know? I'm like, fuck yeah. He goes, they're chanting you're going to die. I was like, fuck yeah. He goes, they're chanting, you're going to die. I was like, god dog, that's intense. Yeah, that's their thing, vamo re.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah, let's relax on that. Imagine if the American crowds were chanting that. That guy looks like a Starcraft champion. Look at him. He looks like a dude who would beat your ass at some new video game. He doesn't look like a guy who would fuck Sam Sicilia by knockout. He looks like he's just a beast with a Rubik's Cube or some shit. Yeah, I like when dudes are unassuming like that but are murderers.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I agree. Hi, hello. Kenny Floyd's like, Kenny's the type of dude you would fuck with in a bar, right? He's small, huge head. Sexy beard, nice watch. Yeah, man, you'd like fuck this dude. I'm gonna fuck you with your watch. Kenny's been through some shit. You'd like, fuck this dude. What the fuck are you with your watch? Kenny's been through some shit.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Your fucking watch and your nice tie. Asshole. Move this asshole face. Fuck you up, man. I know, he's like the most unassuming ass kicker. He looks like an accountant, but he will jack your world up, man. You would just realize, like, really early on what a mistake it was when he started in a bar still in that jab like oh shit this guy does jiu-jitsu fuck he just i had a buddy of mine
Starting point is 00:08:54 who um worked he was a bouncer at a strip club and he was a purple belt under hoist this is back in the late 90s and he was uh he was a dickhead and he would go out and start fights and just he would go out with uh knee pads on and ties and he would go out and start fights and he would go out with knee pads on and ties and he would work with ties that were Velcro you could just pull them off and he's ready to go this guy's a psycho and he'd fuck people up really easy
Starting point is 00:09:15 I've seen him fuck people up at the strip club just like in Gracie in Action take the dude down pass his guard easily, mount him he gives his back, chokes him out and he walked up he did that to some guy right in front of me dude down, passes guard easily, mount him, he gives his back, chokes him out, and he walked up, he did that to some guy right in front of me and said, that's all you got?
Starting point is 00:09:30 And then he stands up and goes, nice fight, asshole. He walked away. He was all mad. He was too easy. That's his amateur record, man. But he had some road rage and he flipped some dude off, and the dude flipped him off, and he pulled over and he fought some guy and he said it went on for like 20 minutes. He goes, man, the dude knew jiu-jitsu was fucking hard I think he
Starting point is 00:09:46 won a knife right no mace never just all clinched up probably you know on the ground and the dirt just clenched up probably, you know, on the ground in the dirt, just clenched up. Probably. This guy knows how to fight. This guy should lose a blue belt. You start talking to him at that point. Come on, bitch. Where you training?
Starting point is 00:10:11 I agree, yeah. Exactly. If you get to a good spot. You know Renato? You know Renato Magno? Just chill out a little bit. I know Renato Magno. Renato Magno.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Everybody knows Renato Magno. What is his sport? What is the name of the place? Street Sports in Santa Monica. Renato Magno. What is his sport? What is the name of the place? Street Sports in Santa Monica. Renato Magno. Old school. He's calling out to all his friends in the Starcraft clan. We still meet for a land party.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Dude. You think he's had eye surgery? Why? Oh, you mean that thing with your eyes that some Asians do? Yeah, they try to get Americanized, right? They try making it rounder It's so normal there Oh, it's super normal
Starting point is 00:10:52 It's weird Really? Is that a StarCraft champion you put up, Jamie? It's like chicks with fake titties It's like having your period Look what Jamie put up on the big screen On the little screen on the left That's, uh
Starting point is 00:11:02 That's, dude, like the best video game play in the world or some shit StarCraft champion Yeah, that's the Star That's the best video game play in the world or some shit? StarCraft. Champion. Yeah, that's the StarCraft champion. Look at Korean Zombie. I forgot about him. Oh, yeah, military. He's out for two years.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Mandatory military service. They don't fuck around, man. It's almost over, though, right? I think so. You know, that's an interesting thing. He's not in the military right there. Yeah, he is. He's got a suit on.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Military suit. Oh, he does? I don't know. I'm just guessing. He was rolling with Ben Henson. Yeah, you sent me the video. No, I'm sure he's got a suit on. Military suit. Oh, he does? I don't know. I'm just guessing. He was rolling with Ben Henderson. Yeah, you sent me the video. No, I'm sure he's still training. Is that wrong?
Starting point is 00:11:29 No, I didn't see it. It's a viral roll. Ben Henderson and the Korean zombie. When was this? How long ago? A couple days ago. It's all over the net. So is he out here?
Starting point is 00:11:39 The Korean zombie puts Ben Henderson in a twister, but he escapes. And then Ben Henderson comes back and meat hooks this shit and rubber guards this shit out of him. Sick. And puts him in a omoplata. Sick. Yeah. How's this guy? Alberto Mina.
Starting point is 00:11:54 How's this guy? 11-0, undefeated. Why did I? Nasty-ass mustache, too. I'm trying to remember when I saw. Yeah, that's a beautiful mustache. I'm not mad at it. So where have I seen him fight before?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Trying to figure out who he fought. Do Korean zombies walk out when he comes out to Cranberry? Oh, here it is. There it is up on the screen. Korean zombie. Oh, yeah, yeah. There it is. And where were you guys?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Damn, Jamie's on fire. Look at their videotaping this roll like it's some serious shit. There's a bunch of people there. Right? Look at that. That's like Abu Dhabi. You're going to put cameras on there? You can't just roll light.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It's real shit. No, they kind of did because he kind of gave them a triangle. I don't think this is the role I saw. Or it's a different angle. No, they didn't have gloves. This wasn't the role. They're just messing around here. Yeah, this ain't the one.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Jamie. God damn it. So they're just sort of slapping at each other. Just a nice sweat for Ben before fight week, huh? Oh, if you were Ronda's head coach, how would you
Starting point is 00:12:59 have her train for the rematch? What would you do? She was going to listen to you. It was all in your hands. What would you tell? She was going to listen to you. It was all in your hands. What would you tell her? This is what you got to do. This is what you got to do. Eddie Bravo is on MBN. Bro, guys,
Starting point is 00:13:11 I thought we were talking about Asian people get their eyes white. You guys are talking about Ronda. Ronda comes with the interview question. Ronda wanted to peep in. The hard interview question.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Stone cold fucking. I'll tell you how I train her. Hey, you know, you used to date this girl. She's, you know, whatever. Superstar athlete, whatever, whatever. How would you train her, bro? What'd you do, bro?
Starting point is 00:13:31 I'll tell you what's interesting is people think it's that easy where you can just go find another striking coach and everything. No, no, no. It doesn't work like that. Of course not. But what would you do? You have six months. What would you do? Six months? What would the strategy be and what would the training be like? Well, listen, man. Six months do? Six months? What would the strategy be and what would the training be like? Well, listen, man, six months, you need to cut out all the drama in
Starting point is 00:13:49 your life, probably find a new coach and just focus on what you do because she's never going to outstrike Holly. That's never happening in this world ever, even if you gave her two years. So do what you do. You don't need to reinvent the wheel, but your best chance of winning is by grappling. So you're not going to invest your whole time trying to compete with a world-class striker. So what would you do? You'd hook her up with a wrestling coach, right? All the commercials you see of Ronda,
Starting point is 00:14:14 no more Focus Mint commercials with all that shit. It should just be wrestling and double-A commercials, right? That's all she's working on. That's where the UFC and her camp fucked up. Everyone kept calling her Mike Tyson. She had a strike of Mike Tyson. I guess, man. I guess.
Starting point is 00:14:28 So she has this. You can't say like striking Mike Tyson. She had that Mike Tyson aura because she kept beating girls. I agree. But everyone was so sold on the strike, including me. I thought she looked real good against Betch Koheya. But Betch Koheya is like more of a brawler style. And when Ronda comes comes super aggressive like that, that'll work on a lot of girls.
Starting point is 00:14:49 It'll fold under that pressure. All of them. It's worked on all of them. Holly just rose to the occasion. She's the only one who's had real, legit footwork. And the way the fight started, when Ronda's there, they're looking at each other, and Holly just kept skipping to the left, skipping to the right, skipping to the left, skipping to the right. No one's ever done that to her.
Starting point is 00:15:07 She was doing, look at my footwork. I'm just going to be dancing. If you watch, did you notice that? She did that from the moment she entered the octagon. Exactly. That's how she stays loose. Yeah, she's done that before. If you watch Holly's previous fights, especially her boxing fights or championship fights.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I'm not saying she didn't do it before, but how fucking crazy did that look? I'm just saying, if you do your research on Holly, which I'm a victim of it too, I was like, yeah, I thought Rhonda was going to win. Didn't I say on this podcast, I go, dude, Rhonda didn't, I don't know what I said word for word, but I did say that, no, I didn't predict shit. No, no one did. No one fucking did. Ambient.
Starting point is 00:15:39 No one did, man. No, what's hilarious is how many people are talking shit now. I know. They're so mean about it, but you didn't see this coming. Why are you pretending you saw this coming? Way to go, Shob. Good call on that one. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I didn't call the fucking huge upset in the UFC. My bad. Dude, the amount of fucking memes. Oh, my gosh. She broke the internet. She was crazy. She's only been doing MMA for four years. Like a little more than four years. She doesn't have a lot of experience. Yeah, which is nuts because she's only been doing stan or she's only been uh doing mma for four years like a little more than four years she don't have a lot of experience yeah which is nuts because
Starting point is 00:16:09 she's 34 right it's true oh you were talking about hollyholm they see the amount of fights that she's had though boxing and kickboxing and then you see that footwork and those combos that she landed in that fight like man she she had a split decision victory over Raquel Pennington. Yes, man. It was a real close fight. And so she goes from that fight to the Maryam-Renaud fight, which is a really good fight. She looked good in that fight.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And then this fight, she just looked like a world beater. Well, I think just fights are all about matchup style. Oh, yeah. And I think if Ronda and Holly fight 100 times, Holly probably wins at least 95. I just think style-wise, it's a bad matchup. I don't think so. If she focused like she did on her striking, keep working the striking.
Starting point is 00:16:53 She's still got, obviously, a lot to work on, but she's got to really take her wrestling to the highest possible levels. Her shit's on the ground. You've got to get the fight to the ground. You can't make it a kick. Holly's never been taken down. Yes, you got to wrestle, wrestle.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And if you can't wrestle, you got to pull guard. Holly is strong as fuck, bro. Holly's big, too. Holly's big, strong. Yeah, maybe that's it. That's it. There's only three choices. You could strike with her.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You could try to take her down. If those two don't work, because the striking's not going to work, and if the wrestling don't work, all you have left is pulling guard. Is Holly Holm some master at anti-guard pulling? She works very hard on grappling at jacks. No, but what I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:17:37 is she a master at anti-guard pulling? You said good luck at trying to take her down. I said good luck, because is Rhonda a master guard puller? Does Rhonda get all her bars from her back? She'd have to luck at trying to take that. I said good luck because is Ronda a master guard puller? Does Ronda get all her bars from her back? She would have to figure out how to do it.
Starting point is 00:17:49 All you gotta, it's super easy. You shoot, when it's not in your wheelhouse. You shoot and pull. It's definitely not. Paul Harris does it all the time. Look at Paul Harris.
Starting point is 00:17:56 It's not that hard. That's his thing. Exactly. She's gotta make it her thing. She's gotta get the fight to the ground. If the wrestling ain't gonna work, if the judo ain't gonna work,
Starting point is 00:18:06 what else do you have left? Stand with her? That's already not going to work. The only choice. Smash her into the cage and win the rounds that way. That's another way. There's an art to guard pulling. There's an art. For sure there's an art.
Starting point is 00:18:13 When Ryan Hall did it, no one cared. People expected Ryan Hall to do it. When Ryan Hall pulled guard and he tapped two dudes out by pulling guard, it happens all the time. That's how no girl gets in center. How's it working for Ryan Hall on the Ultimate Fighter, though? He lost his last fight. Yes, he did. You know what?
Starting point is 00:18:26 You know what? What I was really impressed with Ryan Hall is, man, his striking and his footwork, pretty damn legit, man. It's getting better. It's getting better. If he just keeps going, Ryan Hall could be a serious threat. His striking's on its way to being pretty damn good. In my fucking opinion, what do I know?
Starting point is 00:18:46 I did Jeet Kune Do for two and a half years. I think you definitely are right about her needing more options for being able to take guys down. It's a question of how long would it take for her to pick up those other options. Because she's always looking for the same thing. She's always looking for the clinch. And up until now, that's all she's had to do. She clinches with girls and she's just a superior grappler. She winds up hip-tossing them, throwing them on the ground in spectacular fashion,
Starting point is 00:19:10 beating their ass and armbarring them. And that's what she's been doing. But if you can't do that, and she didn't have those other options. I didn't think she tried that. She's not dropping down for doubles. I mean, does she ever do that stuff? No, it's not her thing. She's got to make it her thing. Rhonda, she's been doing judo since she was in a diaper.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Her knees aren't great either. You know, she says to me, so for her to say, okay, now go freestyle wrestle. Let me know how that goes. Go try and fucking freestyle wrestle Holly Holm. Everyone has all these kind of ideas on what she should do. It's tough, man. What is your idea? What would you think?
Starting point is 00:19:45 Would you think she has to do what she's always done, but just do it better and more focused? Yes, you've got to do what got you to the dance. I think you take out the negativity in your life. You get a coach who's going to support you, and you put world-class training around you, and you bring to what got you to the dance. Like a Farazza hobby-type coach, right? Yes. A Matt Hume, someone along those lines. What you do is you come up with someone.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Eric Del Fierro. Obviously not Greg Jackson, because that's Holly Holm. Right. You know, that's her guy. But you need someone you come up with someone obviously not Greg Jackson because that's Holly Holm. Right. You know, that's her guy but you need someone to come up with a game plan where we're going to take your tools that have
Starting point is 00:20:11 got you to this point and we're going to try to implement that with Holly Holm. Because right now that's not happening. Right now the game plan dash forward
Starting point is 00:20:19 and let's try and get her arm. But you know what? Fuck man. When Dana talked about it he was like if it ain't broke don't fix it. Like that's how he was looking at her training. know and i'm like i get that up until now but now you look at that fight and you got to go okay well there's obviously holly has a way in i
Starting point is 00:20:34 mean and holly has a pretty clear path to victory countering if if ronda keeps going forward like she did in that fight holly will keep countering her to the end of time. I think what Ronda needs to do is look around and anyone, including Dana, that says, no, you're good. Just keep doing what you're doing. Fuck you. See ya. I need to change this up. Because I'm surrounded by yes men and everyone thinks everything's all good.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Everyone that goes, no, she didn't get hurt in the fight. There's no concussion. Oh God. The fuck are you talking about? Who said she's no concussion? She got flatlined. Who said there's no concussion? Who said that?
Starting point is 00:21:04 A lot of people say, no, she's fine. They go, no injuries. That's weird. Everyone's so crazy. Because I saw her get fucking flatlined. Yeah, she got head kicked. So anyone who says, no, everything's all good, you don't need to change anything, that should be an indicator for her to go, all right, you're out of the crew.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I think technically, maybe there's some personal issues and stuff, but technically, she hasn't been striking that long. So technically, she's at a great spot with her striking. She lost because of pride and strategy. That's it. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, hold on. Why do you say pride? Because she wanted to get up there and throw down.
Starting point is 00:21:40 When she clearly lost round one, she didn't come out thinking, I got to do this. She had no other option, bro. She was already fucked up. She had no other option. And she was already lit up. You also got to realize, this isn't like a Buster Douglas Mike Tyson, you know what I'm saying? Like, she just didn't get clipped. She got outclassed.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It wasn't even close. It looked amateur to pro. But she was down to strike with it. She got lit up. She was down to strike. She was like, fuck that. She had no other option. I'm sure the game plan was to to strike. She was like, fuck that. She had no other option. I'm sure the game plan was to come forward.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Well, she still came forward. No, no. After she tried taking her down, then it's like, fuck, man, I have to stand with this girl. Yeah, and that's your only option. What did you think about the advice that she was getting in her corner? She didn't back up. She went forward. It's tough to say.
Starting point is 00:22:21 You're talking about pride. You know what I mean? A prideful warrior. Not in a bad way. Maybe even a 10-8 round. She got fucked up. And your coach goes, you're doing great. This is exactly where we want her.
Starting point is 00:22:32 What the fuck? What are you talking about, man? What the fuck are you talking about? It was a bad strategy, for sure. Again, that's when you're surrounded by, yes, man. Someone needs to look at you and be like, fuck, man. All right, listen. We need footwork.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Control the distance. Try to get your underhook and go to work. But what you're doing right now, don't rush in there with your hands down and your jaw wide open. You're going to get kicked in your face. Do you think that she was just so dominant that no one around her thought this could ever happen? Do you think that's a possibility? Yes. I think everyone, including a ton of people in her circle, thought there's no way this could ever happen.
Starting point is 00:23:07 She can get away with whatever she wants. When the first round ended and she looked tired, do you think that that tired is from the beating that she took in that round? Or is it a combination? Or is it being out of shape? Is it having too many distractions? No. The one thing about Rhonda's no matter She could be filming eight movies and she's gonna come in shape. That's one thing she can control herself
Starting point is 00:23:30 She's a monster her work ethic is like no one else's so I don't think it's a matter for being out of shape I think for the first time she's like first time Oh shit man, I got fucked up and that's a different feeling Your adrenaline's pumping you're getting fucked up chasing a girl. So I just don't think she's ever been there. They isolated in the truck. They isolated this one elbow that she hit Rhonda with. Rhonda's moving forward.
Starting point is 00:23:54 She just steps in and left elbows are on the chin. It's like, whoa. Dude, I can't believe she didn't break her jaw. Because we see in that first round her mouth wide open, which I've never seen. And usually that's a broken jaw. Are you sure it's not broken? Because that was the big rumor that keeps going around. I know. It's a huge rumor.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's a huge rumor. We see her. I didn't see it, but I hear when she got off the plane from LAX, you know, this paparazzi, she's covering her face. Right. We had seen her face get busted up. She probably didn't want to talk to those paparazzi people. It's embarrassing, man.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I get it. But I don't know man that's tough it's a uh such a historic event i mean if she would have went right through holly that fight would have been fucking forgotten that would have been one of those that you know random fights if she would have just went right through instead that's a moment in time that will go on forever it's also it's like a buster douglas it's also a martial arts lesson it's a moment in time that will go on forever. It's also a Buster Douglas. It's also a martial arts lesson. It's a lesson in martial arts.
Starting point is 00:24:48 It's a lesson in approach. Like if you get your you take away the personalities and the stardom and the friendship, all the stuff that you have for those people. And you just look at it as like two components, like two two numbers interacting with each other. Just to look at it like like two components like two two numbers interacting with each other just to look at it like like completely objective what you see is like one strategy that's really effective with one type of movement like one really refined movement yes world-class movement footwork and then angles and understanding the technique like super well. And another, you see this super determined athlete who's been very dominant, but just the numbers aren't adding up. And as the round goes up, she's further and further in a deficit
Starting point is 00:25:33 because she keeps getting cracked, and then Holly keeps cutting. And then your confidence wanes. It has to. There's no doubt, right? There's the frustration. There's the numbers of times that she's getting hit. There's a lot of things like factoring in. And it all leads up to that insane head kick.
Starting point is 00:25:49 We see an exhausted but still aggressive Ronda. And when Holly pushes her and then boom, sets up that left high kick, you're like, that's a martial arts lesson. Straight up. This can happen to anybody. To anybody, man. That's why fighting so different than other sports can happen to anyone for me i hated to see it man i like seeing greatness you know i'm saying i love seeing greatness well we saw it we saw it in holly
Starting point is 00:26:14 that was greatness this is an opportunity for ronda to show 100 greatness and the again it's all about matchups holly has some tough fights besides ronda. Misha Tate's a hell of a fight for Holly. There's other fights. So is Kat Zingano. Kat Zingano. These aren't fights where she's just going to dominate, man. No. So I think it's good for the sport.
Starting point is 00:26:33 But also, Holly's also a person that you could tell, if you have young daughters, you want them to be like Holly. Great person. Amazing person. Just a nice person. We can't get her. The media cannot get her to talk shit about Ronda. She's just a great person. Amazing person. Just a nice person. We can't get her. The media cannot get her to talk shit about Ronda. She's just a great person.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Even when Ronda was screaming in her face at the weigh-ins. And I asked her. She's like, well, I was just trying to have a drink here. And after Ronda went crazy on her, she didn't even respond back. Like, fuck you, bitch. You're the fucking fake. You fucking fake ass bitch. She didn't.
Starting point is 00:27:03 None of that. She's been in world title fights multiple times. So to her, it was like, all right, let's do it, bitch. You're the fucking fake. You fucking fake ass bitch. She didn't. None of that. She's been in world title fights, you know, multiple times. So to her, it was like, all right, let's do it, man. You know, there's also like she had two other fights in the UFC. The first one, which is like the octagon shock fight. I'm always willing to kind of throw out the first fight. UFC jitters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Just like so many people. That's just such a big moment. And they go, man, next time I get it now. I'll just go in there and fight my fight. Then the second fight was Marion Reneau. she looked way better she looked much better but this fight is like she must have put in just mad hours and been more focused and more determined for this and just had an incredible camp and had a game plan she's stuck to the plan man like that first round dude she never stopped moving Never stopped executing her game plan Even took Ronda down
Starting point is 00:27:46 When she took Ronda down I was like what The other two fights I didn't get to see But Did her opponents stop coming forward Or at least stand still or move backwards So they're not really just getting clipped Ronda kept coming forward No one came forward like Ronda did
Starting point is 00:28:03 No one does Because Ronda comes forward like a demon She comes forward like Ronda did no one does no one does cause Ronda comes forward like a demon she comes forward like Vonda De Silva in fucking pride she comes forward
Starting point is 00:28:11 so hard that moment happened where it looked like a matador you know what I mean that's how hard she was coming that's what made her
Starting point is 00:28:19 look ridiculous that's what made her look ridiculous cause she's trying so hard and Holly's like what? what are we doing? Holly's just on a completely different level when it came to her stand-up.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And for her to come in in that great a shape and that focused like she was for that fight, you got to see everything she's capable of, which I don't think we've ever seen inside the Octagon. Winkle John was saying that they laid back and that she didn't show everything in her first two fights on purpose. Yeah, I did hear that. That's true. That's crazy. If she really took it easy on purpose to set up the fight with Ronda and then uncork all of her talent in that one fight.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Nobody's ever done that before. I remember being at Jackson's. Could that be true? Sure. It could be. It could totally be true. Because Holly's striking so much better than everyone's. It could be. It could totally be true. Because Holly's striking so much better than everyone's. It could be true. I remember being at Jackson's and the room stopping to watch Holly spar dudes, other girls, and just murking bitches up.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Wow. Yeah, just murking girls up, man. And like I said, it could not happen to a nicer person. Isn't that interesting, though? But you knew all that, and yet you still thought that Ronda was going to beat her ass. Still, man. I'm the guy who got honeydicked. And I'm balls deep in this UFC game.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I would say I have my black belt in the UFC game. And I was like, oh, no. I think I said on this or I said on my show, yeah, I think Ronda's going to win. But if you look back at Holly's fights, like I've been going back on Holly's fights, yeah, man. No shit. No shit. It was just a perfect storm. Well, those two UFC fights threw everybody off, especially the
Starting point is 00:29:48 first one. Raquel Pennington, by the way, is tough as fuck. Super tough. And she's also, she's sneaky. She's not going to just charge straight at you like that. She makes it a little bit more difficult. Then you factor in the nerves. And again, the Myron Reneau fight, she looked way better. She definitely looked. And she got fight of the night
Starting point is 00:30:04 for that, I think. I think it was one of the performances of the night. I don't know if it was fight of the night or what. But she, in the Ronda fight, though, she was, it was 100%. 100%. 110%. I don't think we've ever seen a fighter, male or female, in their prime, this big of a superstar, get outclassed like that. No.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Ever. No, we haven't. Because we've seen people get caught where you're like, ah, fuck, they'll be back. in their prime, this big of a superstar, get outclassed like that ever. No, we haven't. Because we've seen people get caught where you're like, ah, fuck, they'll be back. We've never seen where like, oh, shit, she got dismantled. Yeah, from the bell, from the beginning. Yeah, she just got to focus on taking her down. That's it. No dancing around.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Here's what she also has to focus on, just fighting. I mean, she made a movie. She's going to make Roadhouse, like a female Roadhouse. She's got all sorts of other shit going on. Imagine the movie in 20 years, bro. Imagine the movie. So one needs to tell her. So one needs to tell her.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Can you imagine if, name anyone else, granted I realize Ronda's leaps and bounds ahead of a lot of the girls, but she's finally met a girl who she's not. So Holly's not on this track to make all the movies. All Holly wants to be is a world champion of the UFC. Can you imagine if Verdum or Cain Velasquez or Chris Weidman were making movies and trying to defend their belt? Huh? You would get fucked up. You know what's crazy?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Can you imagine if Patrick Cote was doing movies? You'd be like, I'm going to fuck this dude up. I used to love seeing that. When I see my guy doing something on the side, I'm like, dude, he's about to get dude up. I used to love seeing that. When I see my guy doing something on the side, I'm like, dude, he's about to get fucked up. Because while he's balls deep in this script, I'm training my ass off.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Meanwhile, Sexy Yama looks fucking great. Sexiest guy in the UFC. I didn't know he was fighting on this card. I mean, you're talking about a dude who's a pride veteran.
Starting point is 00:31:38 His fucking stand-up looks sharp as shit tonight. His body's on point. And that tan's always on point. Do you know he sells out arena singing? Of course he does Look at him
Starting point is 00:31:47 Do you know that? He has a voice of an angel No he's not an angel Body of a god That's an angel Voice of an angel Body of a god That's pretty crazy
Starting point is 00:31:54 He's a huge singing star In Japan Is he still a huge That's crazy Yeah I think it is Korea But is he still a huge star over there? Bet your sweet ass he is Maybe he's like With a little ice Maybe he's like with a little ice.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Maybe he's like with a little ice. No, he's not with a little ice. You don't wonder. Well, Japan's weird like that where they just abandon stuff. They were really into MMA for a while. It was huge. They used to sell at the Saitama Super Arena. Then they're like, oh, not anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:19 We're good. They just give up on it. We're good. It's not like football in the U.S. will never die. Never. Something would have to be, even with in the U.S. will never die. Never. Something would have to be, even with all the concussion info and this new Will Smith myth movie, people are like, blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever. Go Ohio State!
Starting point is 00:32:34 Whatever, whatever. Nobody gives a fuck. They give up. They give up. They don't give a fuck. Weren't they super into country westerns, like American country westerns and shit? Rockabilly type shit, dressing up like Elvis. It's so dope they abandoned it so dope they abandoned can't you buy like uh old underwear in the vending machines yes you can see i've never been over there to me it's
Starting point is 00:32:54 a fucking different world in the in the early 2000s japanese were really into having afros like big ones yeah it was like cool it was really cool yeah the models and shit have afros that's hilarious when you take a white dude or an Asian dude and give him an afro what is involved in that process there was a fighter that died trying to work that afro
Starting point is 00:33:18 that's not something you're just like you're putting some work in there was a fighter who had an afro he fought Rico Rodriguez in pride he ended up dying but I forget his. There was a fighter who had an afro. He fought Rico Rodriguez in pride. He ended up dying, but I forget his name. He was a big-ass Japanese dude. Oh, a Japanese guy. A Japanese dude with an afro.
Starting point is 00:33:33 He fought in pride. He fought Rico Rodriguez. I remember that, dude. Like in 2000. It's called a perm, right? I forget his name. It's a perm. That's what I was thinking, right?
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah. How did he die? I don't remember remember but he's dead Good fucking sexy Yama looks man. Is this a middleweight fighter? Is this a welterweight fight? It has to be well is he part time or is that a tan like from a booth? That's that's a good That's a gold tan son. He could easily be from Laos. Yeah, right He's one of them chocolate Asians. Like one of those dudes Bruce Lee fought in his first movie?
Starting point is 00:34:08 Who's got a better body than Akiyama? He's got like the best body of all time. There's one guy who I might give it to over him, and that's Woodley. Yes. Woodley is bodied up, son. Chocolate. Who has the best ass? Woodley?
Starting point is 00:34:22 That's a bubble butt. I know I sound weird here, but Woodley's packing some heat back there. Right. Silence. As everyone thinks a guy's ass is. I'm trying to think about it.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Tell you what, Carwin had a fucking honeydew melon back then. Honeydew melon? Carwin had a fucking ghetto booty. He had one of them gorilla booties
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah, the zoo And you see the silverback Waddle it around Giant ass cheeks Two fucking watermelons You put a thong on Carwin, man You would not know He bent over like, god damn, son
Starting point is 00:34:58 That's a hairy ass woman That's a hairy ass woman Hairy ass Nicki Minaj Did homeboy sexy Amiga kick in the jewels? Oh, no How That's a hairy-ass woman. Hairy-ass Nicki Minaj. Did homeboy Sexy Yamagata kick in the jewels? Oh, no. Here, let's see it. How dare you? Front kick?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Boom! Oh, he looked like he kicked him in the nuts. Nobody kicked anybody in the nuts. Let me see this shit again. Front kick. Double nut kick. Oh, that was like the taint. Yeah, he grazed the helmet.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Oh, look at him. That's some sparring shit. Ooh, gotta get. Ooh, I bet you he is packing. A giant look at him. That's some sparring shit. Ooh, gotta get... I bet you he is packing heat, son. A giant dick. Just a big old, angry fucking Korean dick. Hey, you think you've seen
Starting point is 00:35:33 nothing? The last samurai cock. He probably sings when he pulls his dick out. He sings that he's a UFC fighter in Korea. Imagine all the Korean pussy he's getting. I that he's a UFC fighter in Korea. Imagine all the Korean pussy he's getting. I believe he's married with a family, Eddie Bravo.
Starting point is 00:35:51 How about you just back off? Look at the build. Or he's just doing work. He's like fucking Godzilla out there. Probably. Just Genghis Khan in the whole country. Dicking him down. Look at the fucking build on this guy. He must be just lifting weights all the time.
Starting point is 00:36:05 All the time. There's no other way. It's not normal for a fighter to be built like that. Beautiful body. I agree. I mean, when you're doing wrestling, jiu-jitsu, kickboxing, it's hard to keep up a physique like that. 100%. Look at his haircut, too.
Starting point is 00:36:18 That's got to be natural, right? No way he's on juice, right? Well, I don't know, man. No comment, bro. The bottom line about Juice is those guys that fought in Pride, they definitely could have then. What weight class was he then? That's a good question. I think he was 185. I think he was in Vanderlei's weight class, right?
Starting point is 00:36:38 Oh, shit. Dude, for people who are like, oh, steroids aren't that big of a deal, think of Hunt Bigfoot 2. Oh, they're such a big deal. Oh, my God. They're such a big deal. Oh, my God. They're such a big deal. Such a big deal also when women take them. You know, I mean, that's even sometimes more of a big deal. I agree.
Starting point is 00:36:54 That's a, you know, I was reading this thing about what happens to women bodybuilders. Oh! He's getting clipped. Oh! Yeah, he got them in the back of the head. He got tagged, but he keeps moving, man. Hey, Minya, good luck getting out there alive when you beat up the fucking national icon. You're going to fuck up his singing voice, man.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Oh, hell no, man. How dare you? Hey, ref! Oh, he's done. He's done. He has a singing career, you asshole. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Is that the end of the round? Oh, my God. He made it out of the round. Yes, praise Akiyama. Was that the third round? No, I don't think so it out of the round. Yes, praise Akiyama. Was that the third round? No, I don't think so. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Damn, this dude is on. We're barely paying attention. He is fucked up. Damn. His body's distracting. I was reading this thing about female bodybuilders and the permanent effects it has on them. Can you imagine that girls take male hormones just to get jacked like a dude in their underwear and pose on stage? Like, you literally change your physiology. Essentially, you shift way over to the male side.
Starting point is 00:37:54 There's no coming back, right? Like, you're not just doing a fucking cycle of steroids, getting a dude's jaw and, you know, titties. Everything. Changes their frame, changes their bone structure. But I think if you take female hormones, it takes seven years to get back to where you were. So you would have to take, like. You could change your body in seven years. You'd have to take, like, female hormones.
Starting point is 00:38:17 That makes sense because that's how transsexuals do it. A transsexual man takes female hormones and becomes more feminine over time. Seven years? No, see, the thing they're saying that i don't know if it's different 21 years you could go back and forth yeah yeah but i don't know if it's different with women i don't know if it's different i don't know if it's different with uh women to like if it goes women to men or men to women it's the same if it's the same pace but they're saying that when a man goes to a woman, Dr. Ramona Krutz,
Starting point is 00:38:47 I think her name is Krutzik. She, they interviewed her for us. Uh, Steffi Crooklyn interviewed her about Fallon Fox. And one of the things they were saying is when you take estrogen, it actually preserves bone density. So like,
Starting point is 00:39:00 yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like, that's why women, when they get older, they develop osteoporosis. So this idea that like taking the estrogen is automatically going to give you lower bone density, like a woman.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Oh, shit. Akiyama, they're still throwing down. That's not necessarily the case. So if you had a woman that took testosterone, got more manly, right, and then started taking estrogen, this doesn't necessarily mean it would shrink her bone structure back down. It's very tricky. It's very tricky because there's a cycle to that shit. There's a lot going on in your body.
Starting point is 00:39:33 They're all interconnected. That's why when dudes take steroids, they get bitch tits. Your body's like, hey, fuck face. What's with all this testosterone? I'm going to give you titties. Boom. Because estrogen, right? Because all the testosterone, then your body goes, oh, we'm going to give you titties. Boom. Because of estrogen, right? Because all the testosterone,
Starting point is 00:39:45 then your body goes, oh, we need estrogen to balance this shit out. Yeah, your body's like, you got way too much test, you fucking crazy dick. Enjoy these tits. Yeah. Enjoy them.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Enjoy these tits. Dude, these guys are going off, meanwhile. Sexyama has survived. Fuck yeah. I'm such a fan of Sexyama. Hell yeah. He's looking good in this... This round, in consideration of the fact that he almost got stopped just two minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Dude, he has a salty-ass UFC record. Dude, well, he's been around for a long time. Bet your ass. But remember when Vitor lit him up? Oof. Like a Christmas tree in Times Square. Fuck. Hey, Vitor Anderson Silva, huh?
Starting point is 00:40:23 Brazil. Oh, my goodness What a fight For sure just let them both juice to the gills He can't walk I have the same doctor right Probably I want like Martin McGuire Sammy Sosa shit
Starting point is 00:40:35 That left leg is jackmified Akiyama with the fucking Muay Thai Bang bang Damn what a crazy fight Dude this card's been fucking good so did you see that thing that Victor Conte tweeted dude
Starting point is 00:40:51 I could literally was like is this real life that thing that I sent you I said is this real life the thing about Holly Holm oh yes Eddie you know what we're talking about? No. This is ridiculous. Victor Conte
Starting point is 00:41:08 tweeted this thing where some bodybuilding expert zoomed in on Holly Holm's crotch, zoomed in on her bikinis, and was like they zoomed in on where her vagina is, and they're trying to say that she has clitoral hypertrophy based on... Her moose knuckle?
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yes, exactly. Fucking haters. They're just fucking haters, man. Dude, they're expecting moose knuckles. That's amazing. It's so stupid. Oh, shit. Akiyama got the leg cut. For Victor Conte to tweet that out takes all credibility away from him. I couldn't believe it. I can't trust the guy.
Starting point is 00:41:39 First of all, you don't know what it looked like before. You're basing this on what? Just the way it looks? Women's vagina lips are quite different. People are just haters, man. She's world champion now. Where were you before, you fuck? Is it like a Wayne photo? Yes, the Wayne photo of her.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So they just zoom in. Like, way in on the box. How do they know she wasn't born with those thick, juicy lips? Exactly. They're just trying to hate on her. How dare you? She's the champ. Some chicks just don't talk like that.
Starting point is 00:42:04 She's the preacher's daughter, you son of a bitch. It's like I was watching this. I was like, is this real life? Did Victor Conte really tweet this? I don't know, Vic. You just sent me the link. I just thought it was some bullshit link. I think he sent it in an email, too. I think I got it in an email blast. I got it in an email blast from him, and I got it in a tweet.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I was like, whoa, really? Dude, I don't even entertain that bullshit. This fight's crazy. It's so silly. It's so silly to even say something like that. You know, it's one thing to have someone who believes that, but it's another thing for a guy like Victor Conte to tweet it. Well, he has some credibility, right?
Starting point is 00:42:38 He's known as a snitch on everyone. Yeah. What are you doing? He was one of the guys at Balco. But he wasn't like a scientist, right? He was just like a sort of a marketing guy. Yeah, marketing guy behind it. Yeah. What are you doing? He was one of the guys at Balco. But he wasn't like a scientist, right? He was just like a sort of a marketing guy.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah, a marketing guy behind it, yeah. This is so crazy. This guy missed the shot. Oh, shit. Boom. Oh, shit. He's like,
Starting point is 00:42:57 he didn't give me a chance to get up. Yeah, what was that? Dude, there's a guy in the NFL's name's Landry. If you've ever seen this fucking guy, you know what I'm
Starting point is 00:43:04 talking about, Jamie? His arms are, he's a guy in the NFL. His name's Landry. If you've ever seen this fucking guy, you know what I'm talking about, Jamie? His arms are, he's fucking jacked. So he's been caught three times for steroids. I've seen him. And this last time, they're like, bro. So he served a 10-game suspension. He gets off the suspension. He knows he's going to be tested again.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Hot, positive for steroids. Just can't not take him. He's fucking jacked, man. See, I was always under the impression that everyone in the NFL was for steroids. Just can't not take them. He's fucking jacked, man. I was always under the impression that everyone in the NFL was on steroids. They're so big. I was like, when you see a 350-pound person like that, yeah, look at the pictures.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Eddie, look at that picture. Look at the screen. Jesus Christ. And he's supposed to be fast and quick. My God, look at his arms. He's a fucking monster. Those arms are retarded. He's probably one of the biggest guys' arms. What team is he on? I've ever seen him.
Starting point is 00:43:49 No one's now. He's on team fucking sit at home. He's on the same team as I am. So a dude like that, right? He's obviously taking them for football, right? Yes. He wants to get gigantic for football. Can you get that big without doing juice?
Starting point is 00:44:08 I don't think so. And that lean? I don't think so. Right? So when you see all those gigantic fucking dudes that are playing for the NFL, some of them have got to be genetics, right? 100%. I've seen some guys who are just complete freaks where people chalk it up to steroids, but it's not. They're just genetically different than we are.
Starting point is 00:44:26 But are they like ridiculously ripped and big or are they like the linemen that are just massive? No, no, no. Like my best friend Joe Kloffenstein, he's 6'6", 270, like 6% body fat. Just woke up like that. Jesus Christ. Just woke the fuck up like that. I was with him last night and he just
Starting point is 00:44:41 balls deep in donuts. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? And then I tried, and I'm fucking, yeah, I can't do that, man. Wow, that guy is fucking into it. Look at that. Look at that. Wow. They're going to make a gif of her.
Starting point is 00:44:56 They get crazy. Yeah, that'll be on the internet. For sure. Look at Sexyama. Look at Sexyama. Look at Bruce Buffer. Who won the first round? Good question.
Starting point is 00:45:06 We were talking. For sure, Akiyama won. There's no way he's going to lose this. That just doesn't happen in Asia. Oh, I think they bring in judges. No. Really? In Asia, you think?
Starting point is 00:45:16 That's part of the deal. Oh, see? Fuck. We got to shove some drop. That was a Chinese judge. Oh. Fuck, we got shots to draw. That was a Chinese judge. Oh, shit. How dare you? How dare you?
Starting point is 00:45:31 Oh, shit. He must have won the first round. Yeah, I mean, the third round, he looked like dog shit. Rounds two and three were both 10-8 rounds, in my opinion. Do you think both? Both, dude. Are you kidding? He barely made it out of that second round.
Starting point is 00:45:45 He was getting his ass fucked up. Yeah, fucked up. Is that a 10-9 round? Oh, I see what you're saying. So three is a 10-8 for Akiyama, though, right? Yes, because he was just fucking out of it. Yeah. So they both 10-8'ed each other. They need to give those 10-8 rounds
Starting point is 00:46:00 more. They need to give those out more. Sometimes when it's a bully beatdown, someone's getting dropped, it has to be 10-8. You can't just like... When guys are getting hurt and they're stunned, like Calvin Gaslam, Neil Magny. You had that point. I agree with you. Calvin knocked him down twice.
Starting point is 00:46:16 You gotta give him 10-8. That's not a regular 10-9 round. That's a different kind of round. Dude got clipped twice. Dropped twice. Somebody tried to tell me that the first round... How was that a 10- of round. Dude got clipped twice, dropped twice. Somebody tried to tell me that the first round... How was that a 10-9 round? Somebody tried to tell me that the first round with Gray Maynard versus Frankie Edgar
Starting point is 00:46:31 was a 10-9 round. I would slap the fuck out of them. This is a fucking professional judge. We're having an argument about it. I go, what are you talking about? I go, well, that is the epitome of a 10-8 round. At least 10-8. They should never be able to judge MMA again. And he goes, well, that is the epitome of a 10-8 round. Look at this. At least 10-8. They should never be able to judge MMA again, ever.
Starting point is 00:46:47 And he goes, well, no, because the fight wasn't close to being stopped. Oh, fuck. We shut the fuck up. That was as close as a fight gets to being stopped. That's insane. The guy was actually literally saying that to me. And he's a judge. What world do you live in?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Oh, my God. It was the most frustrating conversation I've ever had with somebody. Well, that hat's... Because I knew that this guy's professional. What is that? That's a Brazilian... That makes me sad. Like a llama wrangler.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Out there in the jungle, dodging capybaras and cawens. Llama wrangler. He's like, my llamas, come home with me. That's got to be hard, man, when you almost finish the guy in the second round, but then you almost get finished in the third, and you walk away with the victory. That's crazy. Those kind of decisions are weird because I do go by the idea that, like, I like how Pride did it where they judged the fight as a whole,
Starting point is 00:47:35 but I think the end of the round, the end of the fight's worth more. Because, like, if you're watching two, this is the rationale behind it. You're watching two kids fight in the school, in the schoolyard, and then it's going back and forth and back and forth, but the end of the fight, one dude gets on top of the other dude and full mount and punches him in the face a bunch of times, and then the teachers pull him off. Yeah. So at the end of the fight-
Starting point is 00:47:56 Well, damn, Jimmy won. That dude is on top dropping bombs on you. He definitely won. I don't care if you hit him 30 times before he took you down. True. And he only landed three punches while you were down. If he was on top and he's punching you in the face when the teachers came, you won. I don't care if you hit him 30 times before he took you down, and he only landed three punches while you were down. If he was on top and he's punched you in the face when the teachers came, you won.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Legit point, right? Totally. Legit point at Virginia Court Elementary. If you're going back on what you did in the first or second round, obviously it didn't mean anything because you're getting your ass beat at the end. What about that knockdown in the first round? That didn't mean shit. Look what's going on right now.
Starting point is 00:48:26 You're getting your ass kicked. Yeah, it's going to be hard to judge like that because then people will do like what they do in Thailand where they wait for the betting so they lay back in the first couple of rounds. You don't want to see people do that. But also, let's take the Neil Magny versus Kelvin fight. When Neil had his back and was riding him for a long time had
Starting point is 00:48:45 his back for a long ass time you know how's that because that's a dominant position yeah now it's a dominant position he wasn't doing any damage that's different he was threatening the choke that really won the first two rounds I'm not but why isn't it though kind? Kind of isn't it? What do you mean? If a guy is on your back for the whole round, and he's trying to get that choke, and you're batting, and he gets real close a couple of times, isn't that kind of like a 10-8? If it's close. That's what I'm saying. If he has a choke in, and it's close, you're like, oh, shit, and it's close.
Starting point is 00:49:18 The crowd's going up, and then he escapes. Right. That was close. But if he just has someone's back, how much would you just do that? For the entire round? What is this fucking commercial? So striking is only 10-8. Look at this commercial.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Sexy Yama is staring in the mirror. Look at this commercial. What the fuck is going on? Position is dominated. What is going on in this commercial? He's a superstar. Not if you can't hit him. But he's like on a massage chair, closing his eyes like he's getting blown.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Well, that's fucking Asia, my man. Look, look, look. It's him versus him. He is a superstar. Wait, what is... What are we looking at here? I'm so confused. And this is Fight Pass, right?
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah. So this is a legit commercial? Dude, he's a superstar out there. I'm not mad at that Dora the Explorer haircut. Oh my God, it's a fuckin' ad for a massage. It's an ad for a massage chair. I'll take it. Have you ever seen that before though never
Starting point is 00:50:06 what what that confused the shit out of me so what do you think right now with aldo and mcgregor that's a tough fucking call man if if you know i want connor to win but do you i do i want connor to win i i really like connor and i think it's better for the sport for him to win. I think moving forward as a UFC man, you want Conor to win. But Jose Aldo, again, I take heat for this, with the new testing, I don't know how it's going to go down. Oh my God, how dare you?
Starting point is 00:50:36 You're just saying it. Why are you saying it? Because he's Brazilian? Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. I don't know man I'm saying there's a lot of guys that we've seen fighting now with the new testing it's a different story
Starting point is 00:50:53 I'm not saying he is on things I'm saying that's the X factor I'm not accusing him of shit I'm just saying it could be a factor right okay that's all speculative whatever whatever nothing wrong with that but when you look at it as far as past performances Okay, that's all speculative, whatever, whatever. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:51:05 But when you look at it as far as past performances, you look at it as far as what their ability, what they can do inside the octagon, it should be an insane fight. Because you look at Aldo hasn't lost in 10 years, right? I agree, man. Insane fight. He's been beating everybody's ass.
Starting point is 00:51:21 You watch the most spectacular victories that he's had, like the Cub Swanson fight. Dude, Jose Alcubi, pound for pound, number one. A lot of people list he is. Yeah. He's a fucking nightmare. He's a beast. Nasty jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:51:34 World-class jiu-jitsu. Some of the fastest leg kicks in the fucking sport. If you're going to bet on it, I mean, it's not bad money because Jose's an underdog in Vegas. That's crazy. That drives me. By how much? I just don't understand how someone could call him an underdog in Vegas. That's crazy. That drives me. By how much? I just don't understand how someone could call him an underdog. I'd have to see it.
Starting point is 00:51:49 You know the odds, Jamie? Yeah, he's an underdog in Vegas, though. What do you think the logic is? That is just hype and betting? It's hype. Well, think about Ronda Holly. Again, we're all victim of it. 12-1.
Starting point is 00:51:59 12-1. It's all hype. Yeah. And I think a lot of people who make those odds, they don't know the game inside and out. But you see Conor on every fucking poster. But Conor does smash people, man. I mean, he really does. You watch that Dustin Poirier fight.
Starting point is 00:52:14 You watch that fight with Dennis Seaver. Jesus fucking Christ. He smashes people, man. Jose Aldozo. It's a different animal. Far cry from those two. Different animal. They both got chins.
Starting point is 00:52:23 They both smash. So he's plus 125. That's basically even in MMA. Do you think that the... So they're even right now, right? Damn, look at that motherfucking fight card. That is a ridiculous card. It's the greatest fight card of all time, dude.
Starting point is 00:52:38 That's aggressive, Mr. Joe Rogan. You're not seeing the full card. You're seeing just betting. No, no. I see the card up there. Here's Yoel Romero versus Jacare. Jeremy Stephens versus Max Holloway. Luke Rockhold versus Chris Weidman.
Starting point is 00:52:55 For sure. Conor McGregor versus Jose Aldo. That's amazing. What's the top five? You're saying better than UFC 100? I don't know. UFC 100 was Brock versus Frank Mir. It was George St. Pierre versus Alves.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Michael Bisping, Dan Henderson. And there's another barn burner on there, too. I'll say this is the best card since then. How about that? Akiyama was on that, bitch. Was he? Yes. And then you had Jon Jones on the undercard. Akiyama versus Alan Bel bitch. Was he? Yes. And then you had John Jones on the undercard.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Akiyama versus Alan Belcher. Belcher should have won. Dude, you had Mark Coleman versus Bonner. All right, here's... Ooh, that's tough. Don't get me wrong. I'm saying it's a great card. It's definitely top three of all time.
Starting point is 00:53:42 There's one other big fight. Oh, Damian Maia versus fucking Gunnar Nelson. That's a good fight. That's another one. That's on the main card? That's on the main card. So here's the main card. The main card is Max Holloway versus Jeremy Stephens, Damian Maia versus Gunnar Nelson,
Starting point is 00:53:57 Jose Aldo versus Conor McGregor, Chris Weidman versus Luke Rockhold, and Jacare versus Yoel Romero. That's a good argument. I'm not mad at that. It's hard to say that's not the best card in a long fucking time. In a very long time. It might be the best card since 100. I agree.
Starting point is 00:54:13 It's debatable. We haven't had a card that stacked in forever. I forgot about Damien May and Gunnar Nelson. I forgot about that. That's a fucking fight. That's how good this card is. You guys watching The Ultimate Fighter with Conor? Yeah, I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I forgot that Uriah Faber is on the undercard. They have stacked it to make sure that if Aldo pulls out, they've got strategies. They've got Uriah sitting on the undercard. They've got Frankie Edgar and Chad Mendes fighting the day before.
Starting point is 00:54:43 The whole thing's covered. They've got three top and Chad Mendes fighting the day before. I mean, the whole thing's covered. They've got three top featherweights. Even though they're doing that? They should do that all the time. If Jose Alba were to pull out, we're fucked. I know. Jose Conner is the only fight. I love every fight.
Starting point is 00:54:55 It's great. That's all fine and dandy. I'll tell you what. Frankie could go in there and make a nightmare out of that. Oh, yeah. Frankie could make a nightmare out of that. That's a bad idea for UFC brass. That's a bad idea for the UFC brass. He's a bad idea for almost everybody.
Starting point is 00:55:08 When you watch his fight with Cub Swanson, that motherfucker swarms. He's relentless. He doesn't get tired. He just has this most retarded pace. His pace is so fast. His footwork, man. And he's better now than ever.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Frankie's like never backed off. Better now than ever. I think those years out of the championship spotlight, too, have just made his resolve even stronger. Yeah, he needs some rest. That's going to be a good fight that people are totally sleeping on. That Chad Mendes, Frankie Edgar fight. That is a good fight.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I totally forgot about it. Well, in December, there's a week. Three days in a row. Are you working all three? No. Just one? Yes. Just for the big dog. I week. Three days in a row. Are you working all three? No. Just one? Yes. Just for the big dog.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I can't do three in a row. I won't have a voice left. That's what I was thinking. You're screaming, oh, oh. The third night, I'd be like, oh. Oh, and then the other main event is Paige versus Rose. Yeah, did you see what happened with Paige and the haircut thing? What happened?
Starting point is 00:56:05 Paige was supposed to, like, they were going to donate money if they get to a certain amount. She's too fine to be doing that. She's way too fine to be doing that. She's going to cut her hair off. So instead, she got a haircut. Like, her management team told her
Starting point is 00:56:15 not to shave her head. Was it enough? No, she's got long hair still. She got a trim. She trimmed her hair. It's like normal shit that girls do. My bad. That they don't talk about.
Starting point is 00:56:24 It's just like, I'm going to wash myself for charity. Don't you wash yourself every day? What the fuck are you doing? I'm brushing my teeth for charity. Man, I'm not mad at it, though. Don't shave your head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:34 She's way too fun. She didn't. She didn't. That's a tough fight, man. Someone's star is going to fall. Yeah. It's a good fight. Rose is dangerous as fuck.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah, man. She is. Super finisher. She's tough. She's wild. She throws up a lot of wild shit. She's not scared to be off her back. No.
Starting point is 00:56:56 No. Interesting fight, right? Paige is very scrappy, too. Super scrappy. That's a great fight. Dominic Waters and Dong Young Kim. This should be a good fight, man. That's a great fight. Dominic Waters and Dong Young Kim. This should be a good fight, man. This is a good fight.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Two big, tall 170s like, my man Killer B, I'm in this bitch. Yes, sir. I don't know Dominic Waters. Where does he train? That's a good question. Young Jamie, please pull up the information on Mr. Walters.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Rufus, maybe? Do you see Duke behind him? Oh, is that Greg Jackson's guys? Yeah, that's Isaac Valleyfly. So they're going to have a game plan for him. Yeah. Nine and three.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Three KOs, two submissions. Hey, man, did you notice that three KOs, two submissions hey man did you notice that Spike TV got rid of Bellator or got rid of, not Bellator got rid of Glory see what happened, yeah they got rid of it and ESPN picked it up
Starting point is 00:57:59 no way, is that better? no, not necessarily because I think it's like ESPN 2. I watched the Glory fights when they were on ESPN. It was pretty cool. But, you know, there's so much shit on ESPN. And I don't know how much they're going to, like, connect with. Is Viacom and ESPN intertwined at all?
Starting point is 00:58:18 I don't think so. I think Viacom is releasing it. I think Glory, like, they had a licensing deal or something like that. Or a broadcast deal. I think they're owned by different people. I just think there's some fans out there of kickboxing.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Just need to figure out a way to market it and put some money into it and get people excited about it. Yeah, I fucking love it, man. I know they were trying to do Bellator and Glory and intertwine some of the stars in there. I guess it didn't work out as well as they wanted. Yeah, they had that one event where they had the ring right next to the cage.
Starting point is 00:58:54 It was pretty cool. They tried to do it Japanese style, you know? That would have been cool to go to live for sure. Dong Young Kim's back. Dong Young Kim's a nasty grappler. Yeah, he's doing what kim does well he's interesting too because a lot a lot of judo and his style as well yeah i was dong young kim for uh tyrone woodley when he fought him in china oh really yeah
Starting point is 00:59:19 we both fought on the same day. Were you in China for that? No, I didn't go to China for that. That was the one where he came charging at him, right? Yeah, he tried to do a spinning back fist or elbow and got kind of clipped. Murked. Just right hand. Tyron Woodley, you can't rush at that, dude. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Way too explicit. Especially not that first round. That first round is fraught with peril. And now he's working with Duke Bufus. Exactly. Enjoy that. Well, that was what I said. Oh, shit. Look at that takedown right in the side control. What I said about crucifix, son. Tied that arm up with
Starting point is 00:59:53 the quickness, too. Mounted crucifix just like that, son. Cage walk in. Cage walk in. Oh. Almost. I don't think so. He's still near it, though. You gotta push off that fucker. Look you try to explode knock down a tree Mm-hmm. Oh, he's gonna keep going for the elbow son Hmm
Starting point is 01:00:16 What we're just talking about right arm out killer be your card is stacked Yeah, Boston cars that entire card. I'm gonna be there for that. Fuck. Yeah, man. That Boston card's stacked. Yeah, that entire card's I'm going to be there for that. Fuck yeah, dude. I'm going to Boston. You're doing stand-up out there too, I would assume. No, no. Not in Boston?
Starting point is 01:00:30 No, I already had two things booked. I already had Atlanta booked. Is he, man? And I'm in Atlanta and Tampa that weekend. So I have two theaters that I had already
Starting point is 01:00:41 sold tickets for. So then I'm going to fly into Boston on Sunday. Is he, dude? My mom took... Your friend Joe... My mom does... Your friend Joe Rogan's theaters that I had already sold tickets for. So then I'm going to fly into Boston on Sunday. Busy dude. Your friend Joe Rogan's in Rolling Stone. Yes, mom. He's very famous. Very famous, mama.
Starting point is 01:00:53 He's been in a bunch of shit. This is just the start. Look at this fucking control. Try to get that arm out. Can you stop it here? You know what I'm saying? He's not fucking him up. Man, he can't get that arm out. Damn. Can you stop it here? Because it's not really, you know what I'm saying? He's not, like, fucking them up. Man, he can't get his arm out.
Starting point is 01:01:09 It's weird how he can't get his arm out. I know. Great control. The guy's obviously never, he hasn't spent a lot of time getting out of this. Yeah, but it seems like his strategy of getting out is not so good. Who is owning people with this? It's not in the game, right? Ten years ago, some guy was owning people with this in the UFC.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Like, ten years ago. Like, how do you stop it? Mounted crucifix? Roy Nelson. Who was that? On the ultra. Before that. Before that.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Before that? Roy was big. Hmm. Someone was really good at this. This is like one of those things you have to stop the fight because you just can't defend himself. You think? Well, that's what Roy counted on.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Well, Roy's a heavyweight, though, with that giant belly. They're just like, ah, yeah, you're not getting out of here. But this is like very similar to what Roy did. Yeah, stop the fight. Stop the fight. Wow. Couldn't get out of that Mount of Crucifix. Great control, man.
Starting point is 01:01:53 A lot of levels to that position. Nasty. A lot of levels. Yeah. And his level's super high. You could tell right away it was so tight. So tight, good balance. But it seemed like Waters had some space where his arm was yeah that's what I was thinking like if it's first round two you're probably gonna be trying to squirm like yeah he was all hips and trying to explode people forget to work on yes he didn't know how to use his shoulders right to pop his shoulders up exactly but does Roy have a fight is
Starting point is 01:02:18 there any announcement of what's next for Roy didn't they announce a Barnett Rothwell somebody photoshopped a picture yeah they announce Barnett Rothwell? Somebody photoshopped a picture. Yeah, they did. Barnett Rothwell's a good fighter. That's not great. I like that. Somebody photoshopped a picture of Roy Nelson with Akiyama's body, that kind of body that is just shredded. I don't know whose body they used to photoshop it, but it was another fighter. But with him with a six-pack yoked, I was like, oh, my God,
Starting point is 01:02:40 that's what Roy would look like if he fought 185. That is what he would look like. I mean, when you look at Roy, how much weight do you think he could lose? 40 pounds? 5'10", 5'9"? Yeah, about 5'11", 5'10". Yeah, 40, 50 pounds. Is that in the cards for him at that age, though?
Starting point is 01:02:59 I don't know. I mean, let's forget about all that. I mean, old people lose weight all the time. He'll do like a juice fast. There's no age limit. There's no age about all that. I mean, old people lose weight all the time. They'll do like a juice fast. There's no age limit. There's no age limit on that. There's the picture. That's the picture.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Oh, it's Chael Sonnen's body. Yeah, that's Chael. Look up there. Look at that picture up there. Can you imagine if that shit was real? No, I can't. Is the guy in the back right legit? Or is that Photoshop too?
Starting point is 01:03:20 He's got his dick in his hand. If you go lower on the picture, the guy in the back. Chael was jacked. It looks like Joe, you're on the phone, right? Like, oh, it does look like he's going to do it. Dude, Roy Nelson lost 100 pounds. You got to see this. Watch TV right now.
Starting point is 01:03:32 It's fucking good, though. That's Chael when he was about to fight Anderson. He shredded it. Dude, if Roy looked like that and was still knocking bitches out like he does, he would, okay, that's tough. Yeah, that's tough. That's fucking tough. Boy, that's a big difference.
Starting point is 01:03:44 He'd be a huge star yeah well i wonder what kind of effect that would have on his performance his whole career he's been carrying around all that extra weight yeah like that's not outside the realm of possibility that he could actually make that weight oh man with the i mean it is personality wise and his choices wise but like as a physical specimen, it's not. You think he'd get down that without taking performance-enhancing drugs and be that shredded? I don't know. Nah, go ahead and say no. Well, I mean, what is body fat, right?
Starting point is 01:04:17 I mean, you can lose body fat. You also lose muscle, though, too. Right. But if he looked like that, you're right. Well, you're right probably gonna lose I mean you're gonna lose a little muscle a lot of fat and you get in great shape you know yeah you just eat better yeah I mean if he dedicated himself to strength and conditioning and started running every day and you know what you should eat it's the biggest thing by far have you ever fucked
Starting point is 01:04:45 have you ever fucked with a ketogenic diet have you ever fucked with that i haven't man i did this thing uh with my dna it's called simplified or yeah simplified genetics where you put your dna in like a swab and you send it to them and it gives a breakdown it's called simply fit where they do like uh what kind of uh weights cardio you should be doing for your body, what kind of diet you should be doing that best reacts with your DNA. They also have one for concussions, which was scary, where they can tell from your DNA how prone to, when you do get a concussion, how bad it's going to be on a scale of one to five.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Big Brown was a four. Really? I was scared. I wish they didn't send me that one. I literally just got the results two days ago. Oh, my God. And I was like, God damn it. I don't need to know that.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Yeah. That was a four. That ain't good, son. Yeah, now I'm fucked in about, I got 10 years left, guys, if you want to do this. They're going to shoot some stem cells right into your brain. Just let them do it. I'll be the guinea pig right now. Open up the brain cavity.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Dude, let's do it. Just put a little thin hole there.'ll fill up get that syringe in there pump it right in the middle of your brain boom hopefully man you gotta go to Germany for the legit shit no they have it here stem cells they have it here
Starting point is 01:05:59 in LA dude I had some shot into my shoulder in Vegas where they use women's placenta. Women that have cesarean sections. They get stem cells out of their placenta. And they shoot it right into your shoulder. Or whatever. For me, it was my shoulder.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Dude, my shoulder was fucking with me for like a year. I was real close to getting surgery. I was like, this is probably pretty bad. I'm like, it hurts after every workout. I have to put ice on it. One stem cell shot, boom, done. Now it's been four months. It's getting better. It's not like it worked for a little while and then it backed off. It's doing something different than all this platelet rich plasma and regenequin, things along those lines, which reduce inflammation, promote healing, and they're very beneficial. But this is total next level. I mean, women's placenta,enta what that set you back two six million what are we
Starting point is 01:06:49 talking you know i mean that's some yeah i don't know where that's some shit to get yeah hard to get a hold of well i think a lot of women have cesareans i think it's pretty normal save the vag yeah don't save the hooter i'm not mad at that keep that cooter tight baby little cut on your belly ain't no big thing. Ain't no big thing. They stitch those things up good, girl. I think it happens all the time. I don't think it's hard to get those tissues.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And so they do it. Oh, by the way, I got some of these badass pickles right here, son. I know you love those pickles. I know you don't. Those Grillo's pickles, son. They are nice. It's never too early for a pickle. I ate four of them before you guys got here.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Oh, damn. That's what you had for breakfast? No, I haven't had breakfast. Yeah, me neither. It's too early. I'm not even going to pretend. Dude, when you make those posts at night of your fucking elk meat and moose, and I have fucking Chipotle or something, it makes me feel bad about myself.
Starting point is 01:07:39 I like to cook it when everyone's asleep. I know. It looks so nice. And when you have eggs and shit, it makes me so hungry. Didn't you do cranberry sauce the other day today today i made my own homemade cranberry sauce i was fucking it's so easy to do really yeah it's super easy cranberry sauce it's like two to one water and sugar like uh like uh i think i had uh yeah I think it was like Four cups Two cups of cranberries
Starting point is 01:08:07 One cup of sugar And one cup of It's all sugar Look at that Look at that sexy bitch What the hell is going on Look at that How do you
Starting point is 01:08:14 There and here This is crazy So weird man Bro this is madness What's bad He was on TV And he was right here There's Rogan's fucking cranberry
Starting point is 01:08:23 There's my cranberry sauce son Look at that I made that shit. Dude, I might have to stop following you. At night, I'm like, fuck it. I know. I just send the postmates to go pick me up some food. Dude, if we were neighbors, I would have you come over and eat some elk.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Dude, I'd be over all the time. In the middle of the night. Oh, you would love it, too. By the way, I got two commercial freezers here because I shot so much elk this year. I got some elk for you. I'm not messing. I have some right here. Oh, that'd be dope, man. dope man i got some for you too eddie but i don't know if you're gonna eat it he won't eat it why not eddie needs like you have to he only eats chipotle i'm
Starting point is 01:08:52 a big pussy do you know chipotle and the equalized shit going on right now if you like chipotle fucking go it's like the wild dead no one's there because they equalize stuff. Oh cuz they had a e coli Everywhere every in it's like all over the shutting them down and shit. Really? Yeah, man There's that many of them that are having problems. Yeah, really trouble Jamie's nodding. Whoa, that's not good I mean there used to be a line out the door. I want that the other day. There's no you know what it is You know what? They don't know what it is. They don't know what started the first couple first couple stores they found it in, they stripped them clean, cleaned them all, and they couldn't find the trace. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Now it's trickling all over, right? It's been in Ohio. It's been in like seven or eight states. Yeah. Yeah, I get E. coli every time I eat there. Every time, man. Instant E. coli. Do you love it?
Starting point is 01:09:41 Do you love everything about it? Look at that fucking card, son. Dude, Sousza Romero. I love that fight. That's a motherfucking fight. I just wish that Yoel was younger. I feel like we're getting this super athlete, like one of the greatest wrestlers of all time,
Starting point is 01:09:57 and we're getting him deep into his career. This guy beat Kale Sanderson twice. I mean, Yoel Romero was a monster athlete. Super monster. But we're getting him at like 36 when they have the most stringent testing. Ain't that a bitch? It's so unfortunate. It's like giving a Sammy Sosa now.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I'm good. You know, it's like I did this interview. But he is a genetic beast. Yeah, oh, he is for sure. Goddamn, look at that combination. Those front kicks to the body and that left hand. Conor McGregor's a motherfucker, dude. Motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:10:28 He's a motherfucker. He's fucked at 145. He's a beast, dude. He's a beast. Dude, Weidman rock cold? Do you guys know that Weidman stopped drinking, and now he weighs 190 pounds? Damn. He's waking up in the morning at 193, he said.
Starting point is 01:10:43 He said he's essentially a welterweight. Stopped drinking what? Alcohol? Stopped drinking booze, started eating really healthy, and he's coming into this fight really lean. I think he maybe anticipates like a serious pace. Or maybe it's a weight cut thing. Yeah, with Ivy.
Starting point is 01:11:00 I think this is the hardest fight to call for me. I think it's the greatest fight in middleweight history. It's a great fight. You know, the only thing that it would be the greatest all-time fight if Rockhold didn't have that fight with Vitor. Ah, come on. That's an asterisk. It is. It is. But
Starting point is 01:11:17 when Vitor wheel kicked him in the head and stopped him in the first round like that, it did sort of change the perception of Rockhold. I see what you're saying. I just like that they're both in the prime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, they're both fuckmen.
Starting point is 01:11:29 No doubt. Neither one of them are ever going to be this good again, I don't think. I mean, they're both so in the prime. The Vitor asterisk is so strong. The TRT years of Vitor are so, it's such a, I'm so torn more than on any other fighter because I think, like, TRT Vitor is probablyitor is probably one of my all-time favorite fighters. Yeah, might be my favorite fighter. Just like right up there.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Real kicking guys, eyes off. Straight up. He's like one of my all-time favorites. Now think about this. Jon Jones beat him sauce out of his mind. That's fucked up. I like Anadrol Vitor when he was 19, when he had the traps that were just fucking... Did you guys hear?
Starting point is 01:12:00 And no technique. Do you know what I mean? That's the commitment I take? 250. He was 250. He could do a long hair and shit. No, just a long hair. No, no, no. No, no, no. and no technique. Do you know what I mean? That's the commitment I take. 250. What is 250? Long hair and shit. No, you didn't have long hair.
Starting point is 01:12:08 No, no, no. He was like a lion. He was built like a lion. Yes, dude. And running so hard. His muscles started at the top of his head. His traps. And they went straight down like ski ramps. Did you see that John Jones interview?
Starting point is 01:12:20 Yeah, well, I think John Jones has a really good point. That someone in the athletic commission, whoever is responsible, didn't tell him that Vitor had tested positive or that he had tested with elevated test levels. They didn't tell him, and they let him fight. If that's true, he's got a legit point. It's true, and he goes, oh, no, I have three years to press charges.
Starting point is 01:12:39 He goes, don't worry, I'm not forgetting. Yeah, well, he shouldn't. Whoever did that, whether it's the Athletic Commission, whatever, who's responsible at that point in time? Who's responsible? I think it's a combo of things. Is it the UFC and the Athletic Commission? Yes, I think so.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Because people are, you'd have to be, you know, ridiculous if you don't think some of the UFC brass knew what Vitor was doing. Well, wasn't this a time where Vitor took the fight on short notice? Because Chael Sonnen, was that the same fight? No, it was a different fight. No, it's a different fight. Different fight. I'm confused because that fight actually didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Yes. And people gave John a lot of shit, which, by the way, in any other sport, in any other sport, yeah, it was Dan Henderson, in any other sport, that would be a ridiculous thing to ask. Ridiculous. It would be ridiculous to ask Miguel Cotto, last minute, to not fight Canelo Alvarez but to fight floyd mayweather everybody like what the fuck are you i love john's explanation he's like no man i took
Starting point is 01:13:30 there's so many years of training to get to world championship level and you want me to do this and then you're making me look like an asshole that's not cool man boy he gave chael fucking beating after that because all the shit that chael was, my God. He gave him such a beating that he broke his own toe pushing off the mat while he's beating the fuck out of him. Dude, how about in that interview he's like, yeah, you know, now I'm just going to start taking this serious and start training. Oh, good Lord.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Oh, fuck no. Good luck. Are you watching all this power lifting going, ooh, don't get hurt? Not really. I'm like, oh, shit, he's training like a professional athlete now. True. What the fuck? Deadlifting 400, squatting 500. I think he's deadlifting 600.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Is he? I think he's going for his max on Monday. How much is he weight right now? What a fanboy I am. I'm a fanboy. Both of us stalking his Instagram. It's scheduled for Monday. The big 600 pound deadlift is scheduled for Monday.
Starting point is 01:14:26 But he's got to watch his weight if he's staying 205 with the IVs. He's 228. Shredded. 228. So he's lost body fat. Yes. Shredded. Will that factor in that extra muscle in his endurance?
Starting point is 01:14:40 I mean, it's more of a requirement, right? I think it's going to help him because he's going to be stronger. He's never been a knockout guy, but we see maybe a little more knockouts. And he's also not been a guy who's trained outside camp. Now he's training, so I think his body's going to adapt to it. I think he's built for it, man. Wow. And they talk about going to heavyweight too after this.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I was going to say, or he does. Or he does. No, he said it's just a matter of time. The weight cut, especially with the IVs and whatnot, because I know he was talking about it for a while, going to heavyweight, and he probably cuts a lot, and that's probably a pretty hard cut. But the big, big fight, right, is Weidman. If Weidman can beat Rockhold, which is obviously a big if, that's a big fight.
Starting point is 01:15:17 But if Weidman beats Rockhold and Jon Jones and Weidman hook up in Madison Square Garden, good fucking googly moogly. Yes. Look at him. Look at the difference. There's a John Jones before and after picture we're looking at. It's all over the internet of him. Dude.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Where he's like out of shape in between camps for one fight. I think that was 2013. Yes. And then 2015, he's on the right and just looks like the Hulk. Dude, he said when he was fighting Alexander, he was like, yeah, it's the first time I was tired in a fight because I really didn't train. What the fuck? And this dude still goes into the octagon confident. It's insane how talented that dude is.
Starting point is 01:15:58 He's super talented, that's for sure. I'm rooting for him, man. I'm interested to see what's going to happen with this Vitor thing. If they really did know that he had elevated test levels. I'm sure nothing will come out until after he's done fighting. Because when you look at the fight,
Starting point is 01:16:15 John got caught in a deep arm bar in that. And what if his arm broke? Because it did hyperextend it. But what if it broke? And what if that fucked up his career? And then we found out that Vitor had elevated test levels. You have a lawsuit on your motherfucking hands. It's all very crazy, man. It's a very strange time because I feel like they're saving the blood and they're saving the urine for years.
Starting point is 01:16:40 I think like eight years. And how many people are getting by on the sneak tip with some some shit So what are you gonna do with that? What are you gonna do with that say blood and urine like eight years from now the shit on legends? Yes That's fucked up man. That's what they do. It's kind of fucked up. That's kind of fucked up Oh, you're out of the sport. You're a commentator now. Yeah wife and kids check this out Here's this we're just gonna shit on everything you've ever done I mean, there's probably gonna be a lot of extra blood that's unnecessary then, right?
Starting point is 01:17:09 Because how many fighters are probably going to get that in seven years from now? Well, what's going to happen is when sophisticated testing improves, when it gets better and better, then they're going to go, oh, well, now. They didn't used to be able to test for EPO. they didn't used to be able to test for EPO. They didn't used to be able to test for HGH. It's a real recent one, right? Yeah. And now, apparently, there's a new version of artificial testosterone
Starting point is 01:17:34 that they're getting from animals. They're not getting it from yams anymore. They were getting it somehow or another from wild yams. I don't know. I'm too fucking stupid for this. But now, apparently, they're figuring out how to extract it from animals.
Starting point is 01:17:48 And when they give it to people, it doesn't show up. It's like the carbon isotope test doesn't show up. But wouldn't your levels would still be elevated, right? Yeah, you'd have high levels. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:59 But they would be, even though they were high, they would still be human levels. Oh, gotcha. Like, when they do that carbon isotope test, apparently, they test be, even though they were high, they would still be human levels. Oh, gotcha. Like when they do that carbon isotope test, apparently, they test it and they can tell. They're like, oh, motherfucker, you got yams running through your veins. Well, my thing is, all right,
Starting point is 01:18:15 so you're going to store all this blood and shit like that for eight years. You tell me a guy tests positive eight years from now, I'm like, dude, who's been watching this shit? Who's been dealing with it? Has it been under the care of these exact questions well they have they have a facility where they have like a chain of custody okay have 24-hour security cameras and you know all that good shit dude i don't i don't know i don't trust it just make it i don't know what they do is this like o like Olympic qualities, the same people they do the Olympics? Well, that's what WADA is.
Starting point is 01:18:49 That's what the USADA. Dude, we have the strictest testing of any sport now. Any sport by far. Too intense. Maybe focus on the fight kits instead of testing. What? The fight kits? Well, the UFC at least.
Starting point is 01:19:02 You're talking about Reebok, bro? Not just the sport, really. How dare you? Well, let's put a talking about Reebok, bro? Not just the sport, really. Yeah, bro, how dare you? Well, let's put a little money into that, huh? Fuck the testing. Well, they spelled most of the people's names right. Give them some breaks. You're right, man.
Starting point is 01:19:12 They put Connor for Connor's shirt, and they put the U.S. flag on it. With Conor McGregor? Yeah. No, they didn't. Yes, they did. No, they didn't. Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 01:19:20 Some fan took a picture. I think he's from Ireland, bought the Conor McGregor jersey and this U.S. flag. He goes, this can't be right, is it? Isn't it weird that all the shit that Reebok's taken on their designs and they still haven't changed anything? You would think by now they would have changed the goddamn design. That's their problem. That's a huge problem. But if you change the design, you have to admit that it sucked.
Starting point is 01:19:41 What's wrong with that? Oh, our bad. We didn't realize it was going to suck balls so bad. No, no, no. We're switching it up. You just got to get used to this stuff. No, you can to admit that it sucked what's wrong with that oh our bat we didn't realize it's gonna suck balls so bad no no you just gotta get used to this no you can't do that you gotta get used to fighting with white shorts on so that as soon as there's any blood or his their junk gets outlined their ass looks like they shit themselves because they're just running around on the on the ground dude why not just be like oh my bad my bad we fucked up here's a new one though we've been working on we spent way more time on this. I think they said it's like a two-year process.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Like, every two years, they're going to change the style or evolve the uniform. You know what I think they should eliminate? They should eliminate shorts and make everybody fight with tights on. I get annoyed when dudes grab shorts. I'm like, why do they have something to grab? Like, you know, don't grab a short, don't grab a short. It's like, why is that have something to grab? Don't grab a short.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Why is that an option? Some guys aren't comfortable wearing the tights, though. Because they don't like the way they look? They don't want everybody to see their junk? You're talking to a guy who wears tights. I like to let my shit out. Hey, ladies. Hey, everyone. Don't act like you're not impressed.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Benson Henderson. Love this dude. Yeah. I like him at 172. I'll tell you what's interesting. A lot of people don't know this. This is his last fight on the UFC contract. This is his last fight? Yep, his last fight.
Starting point is 01:20:55 You know, if someone like him went over to Bellator, that would make a big noise. They got Phil Davis, which I think made some good noise. But if they can get like- Can you imagine? Can you imagine? Can you imagine? What about 1FC? If like John Jones' contract goes up.
Starting point is 01:21:10 He's Asian? John Jones bails and goes over to Bellator. Something along those lines. I can't imagine that, no. What if Ronda's dead? Good Lord. Oh, good Lord. What if Ronda did?
Starting point is 01:21:19 Oh, good Lord. What if that was the game plan? Dana White's head would explode. It would be like that movie Scanners. You might kill a bitch. They can make your brain explode. They're staring at you. Dana would be at a press conference.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Boom. And then Conor McGregor leaves the next day. And his brain pulls back together and then explodes again. Well, if Viacom really wanted Like they have so much money If they really wanted to sink in And just blow like a couple hundred million bucks And go look we'll just fucking take over this bitch
Starting point is 01:21:53 Let's make it Spike TV MMA That'd be How many people do you think they could do that to How many people would take the chance You'd have to give them so much money That they don't ever have to fight again I agree You'd have to give like each guy like Benson Anderson You'd have to give them so much money that they don't ever have to fight again. I agree. And now they don't care.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Yeah. You'd have to give each guy, like Benson Henderson, you'd have to give him like three million bucks. Because it's just not the same. Even if you have all that money, you're just never going to be the same superstar over there. It doesn't work that way. Unless everybody jumps ship.
Starting point is 01:22:17 It would have to be almost like a mass exodus. Well, then Bellator needs to do a lot of things different. Well, you have to stop calling it Bellator. For reals. Come on, man. And that shitty logo. We've got to figure things different. They have to stop calling it Bellator. For reals. Come on, man. And that shitty logo. We got to figure this out. Benson.
Starting point is 01:22:28 That was up in the air. Like when it got taken over by Scott Coger, they weren't sure if they were going to keep up Bellator MMA. They should have asked Big Brown. Me and that bitch. Straight advice. It doesn't matter what you call it. It does not matter.
Starting point is 01:22:40 It kind of does marketing wise. No, it does. It does marketing wise. To the masses, it does. It's like bands. You can call your name.otie and the Blowfish. Don't call this UFC anymore. Call it Kissy Kissy Pow Pow.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Yeah, let me know how that goes. Yeah. Exactly. Time for the Kissy Kissy Pow Pow World Championships. Branding's everything, my man. Bellator's a dumb name. Who'd even heard of a Bellator before? Yeah, it's a great...
Starting point is 01:23:02 Yeah, it's fucking... What about Hootie and the Blowfish? You know what I mean? It doesn't matter. And where are they now? They're like pumpkins. It doesn't matter yeah, it's fucking. What about Hootie and the Blowfish? You know what I mean? It doesn't matter. And where are they now? Smashing pumpkins. It doesn't matter. Where are they now?
Starting point is 01:23:09 Where's Hootie now? Where are they now? Where's Hootie now? Hootie's a fucking country singer because his shit didn't work out and he changed his name. He likes. His name's Daryl now.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Yeah. His name's Daryl. For real? He likes country music. He's a huge country star. Really? His name's Daryl. Wow.
Starting point is 01:23:21 He said Hootie? They only had one hit, right? That one album, I think, right? Pretty much. They had a lot of hits on it, though. He's killing it country-wise. His name was Daryl. Wow. They only had one hit, right? One album, I think, right? Pretty much. They had a lot of hits on it, though. He's killing it, country-wise. His name was never Hootie. They were gigantic with slightly overweight white girls.
Starting point is 01:23:33 That's true. Giant. Later, a crowd. That was where they did their best damage. Killing it. They had good songs, man. Hootie and the Blowfish were good. And I'll tell you what, man.
Starting point is 01:23:42 That guy, Darius Rucker, right? Darius. That's right. Darius. He's got a great fucking voice, man. Hootie and the Blowfish were good. And I'll tell you what, man. That guy, Darius Rucker, right? Darius. That's right. Darius. He's got a great fucking voice, man. And the country music people, they needed a guy like him. Like, see? We're diverse.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Shit. You mean a black guy, Joe? Shut the fuck up, bro. You said that. They needed a guy like that. I mean a pop singer. Yeah. God, you dick.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Racist man. He's fucking racist. He's the Jimi Hendrix of country. Yo, for sure. God, you're a dick. Racist man. He's fucking racist. He's the Jimi Hendrix of country. Yo, look how yoked Benson looks. He looks yoked. He looks good, man, at 170. He does. You know, not having to destroy his body anymore.
Starting point is 01:24:16 5'9", is that short for 170? Not, like, Johnny Hendrix, I think it's 5'8". How about Johnny changing camps? He's leaving Team Takedown. Yeah, what is that all about? I don't know, leaving Team Takedown. Yeah, what is that all about? I don't know, because Team Takedown invested all this money in him, right? Like, built him up. I don't know how that works.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Because I heard a bunch of different versions of how that— It was like a 50-50 deal, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, like they gave him a salary, and then they would get 50% of his winnings. I think he got a salary. They took care of, like, a house to live in. Basically, they took care of all your— No in. When he was younger, right? Well, who knows? At this point, you become a champion.
Starting point is 01:24:49 He might have had the money to... 50-50. Fuck that. He might have bought a house. This is a good fight, man. Great fight. This is a really good fight. Meslodol is one of my favorite fighters to watch.
Starting point is 01:24:57 He's very crafty, man. Dude, he was one of those old school brawlers. With Kimbo, yeah. Backyard brawlers with Kimbo in Miami, man. Yeah, I've seen him. I like watching him fight, man. He's very smart. Phenomenal striker.
Starting point is 01:25:11 And I think at 170, again, he's a guy who doesn't have to hurt his body to fucking make that weight. I agree. We're going to see that more and more. Like Robert Whitaker when he fought Uriah Hall. That's three in a row at 85. That's true.
Starting point is 01:25:23 A lot of people were saying he's too small for 85. Three in a row at 85 looks awesome. Yeah, really good power striking. Masvidal, slick, dude. Super slick, man. And good transitions between striking and grappling, but Benson is such a good grappler. I'm interested to see where this takes place.
Starting point is 01:25:39 You know Benson outside camp spends all his time in a gi. Does he? Yes. Interesting. John Crouch from that old school Gracie lineage. Dude, John Crouch is my first jiu-jitsu coach. Really? I held the door open for Ben.
Starting point is 01:25:56 He was just getting ready to fight, pursuing it. And, you know, we walked in. We trained together. This is no lie. Next time I saw him, we were both in UFC signing posters. Wow. Just a good dude, man. Great guy.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Set of legs on him. Yeah, he's like keeping it in kicking distance. Ooh, nice right hand. Benson's keeping it in his distance, and Masvidal's trying to close it up. Ooh, nice shot by Masvidal right to the body and the right hand. Yeah, I'd give the striking edge to Masvidal, but it doesn't look like it so far. Well, so far Benson was keeping him on the outside, but that combination, that right kick to the body and right hand,
Starting point is 01:26:35 that had some fucking steam on it. Masvidal's throwing heat, man. He's throwing hard shots. So Ben's trying to knock his ass out too, though. I like that switch kick too. Masvidal's had some knee problems. So many guys have knee problems, man. So common.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Dude, and knees are nothing to fuck with either. You know, a lot of times it ruins NFL guys' careers. Cormier got his knee shot up with the stem cells. Boom. He says he's all good, right? No surgery. He was ready to get surgery. He was thinking about it. That stem cells. it's a motherfucker dude and this is just the beginning of that oh nice counter right great check hook yeah dude how about uh what if they did dc john jones in
Starting point is 01:27:17 mass square garden good fucking lord that's a great fight is it a great fight i love that fight really yeah because i think the dc gets a second chance dc uh more uh more experienced and not gonna fall for the emotional roller coaster ride that he got in with john uh it's probably gonna stay calm and also doesn't you know his knees not as fucked up but dude i love dc with then he's dealing with a focused John who's not doing coke three weeks out. And already beat him, too, you know? Already beat him. That fight has to happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Oh, it's happening. It's happening for sure. That's the next fight for DC and John. It's guaranteed to happen. I'm just saying at Madison Square Garden, will it happen? You think they'll give it to John Jones right away? That Madison Square Garden thing, though, it's not definite yet. No, it's definitely not definite.
Starting point is 01:28:06 I think they have to jump through a lot of hoops before April. They're making it difficult. Oh, shit. Oh! Oh, he caught him with the right hand. That was right when Masvidal was going with that right kick to the body again, too. Madison Square Garden UFC would be fucking insane. Insane.
Starting point is 01:28:22 It would be insane. You've got to stack that card like this December card. You've got to just bring the noise. Did they get it past him? No. No. They're still, it's crazy that it's not. Oh, nice left to the body.
Starting point is 01:28:32 You hurt him with that left hand of the body. Masvidal, sneaky. I always think that's how you can tell an elite striker when you see guys go to the body. That was perfect placement, too. Phenomenal. Masvidal. Masa Vidal. Oh, axe kick. Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Crazy. He keeps landing that right kick to the body. Dude, he'll mix it up. And his jiu-jitsu is sneaky on the ground, man. Ooh, leg kick. That leg's there for him. God damn, he's opening up. Yeah, that was like five in a row.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Ben's hair always gets in his fucking face. He's always touching it. He's gonna who was he fighting? Remember he was fighting was it Frankie when he'd pull his hair back Frank would jump on her mirror that Yeah, he pounced and they're timing it after the first fight nice leg kick I wonder yeah what notice how much he touches his head. He really should cut it off. He needs to cornrow it. Well, something. It just gets so in the way. Why is he so into it? Stop doing what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Yeah. There's one more thing that he doesn't have to think about. I agree. That's what Rose cut her hair, right? She had eyes in the way. Fuck this noise. Yeah, she cut all her hair off. I mean, it's crazy that Paige wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 01:29:44 Rose is equally pretty. She's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Rose is super. She actually pulls the shaved head off. Oh! He nailed him in that knee. Going down now, son.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Look at that. Oh, she's maybe an ish. Don't think so. Damn, takedown defense. Look at him. Look at him. Super confident. He's laughing.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Dude. Defense. Look at him. Look at him. Super confident. He's laughing. Dude. Dude, Ben wins this one. His second big win at 170. I mean, he's right up there, man. You got to give a guy like that. This is five rounds, too, man. We just watched round one.
Starting point is 01:30:22 And who do you think won that round? If you had a judge. Masvidal. Masvidal, right? 10-9. If that's a 10-9 round, how is Frankie Edgar versus Gray Maynard? That guy should be put down. That guy should be put down like a shitty dog.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Like a horse with three broken legs. What happened in that fight? Frankie Edgar got cracked in the first round where he was down multiple times Completely wobble looked like he was out Dude, that's a ten eight round of five rivers. I'd be surprised if you told me ten six Oh, yeah, I'm cool with that ten nine. I'm like fuck He tried to tell me it was ten nine because the end of the round Frankie had recovered
Starting point is 01:30:59 I'm like you just need to shut your mouth, dude If we were in a restaurant and he told me I'd piss in his mouth I would have stood on the table and pissed right on his mouth. Wow. You're aggressive, bro. You're very aggressive with your urine. You're aggressive with your urine. Like a lion.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Round dose. Dude, how about Ben Henderson had big fucking Joe Riggs in his corner? Did he? Old school. Well, Diesel's been training with them, right? Yeah. Yeah, he was in Riggs' corner against me. Is Riggs in the UFC?
Starting point is 01:31:28 Is he still in the UFC? He won his last fight, didn't he? His last fight was Cote. No, he lost to Cote, right? Yeah. Was that the last fight? I think so. He'd won one before that, right?
Starting point is 01:31:40 Who did he fight? Ron Stallings? Ben, you know Patrick Cote's first team all cutie. I mean, people dig that dude. You know this. Yes, Quebec. You're not worried about that. Masvidal's landing that right kick to the body a lot.
Starting point is 01:31:56 That's a good kick for him, man. Dude, his striking is, I mean, top notch, man. I think it's very crisp. I'm not mad at his fade either on this here. I'm also not mad at his takedown defense. That was really impressive. Ridiculous, man. He's very crisp. I'm not mad at his fade either on this here. I'm also not mad at his takedown defense. That was really impressive. Ridiculous. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:09 That was impressive. Ben can get you down. He's like roommates with Colby Covington. Yeah. Covington. And fuck, dude. You have that guy as like your favorite training partner and you're going to get good at wrestling, man.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Well, they have monsters at ATT, right? Wrestlers? I mean, it's just full of them. But definitely, he brought his game up. Phenomenal gym. Ooh, that kick to the body. Have you seen the new one? Dan Lambert just opened up a new giant ATT.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Have you been there, Ben? In Coconut Creek? I haven't been to the new one. Oh, shit. I saw the buildup. Is he hurt? Dude, he's hurt. Leg?
Starting point is 01:32:44 Is someone bleeding? Something happened. Is that from old? Is he's hurt. Leg? Is someone bleeding? Something happened. Is that from old? Is that Akiyama's butt? Damn. Oh, his darses are nasty, bro. Japanese necktack? No.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Masvidal's darses are fucking nasty. Mary got Chiesa with a darse. We were talking. We missed the... I know. You got Chiesa with a darse. Chiesa. Chiesa.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Oh, shit. Oh, my goodness. Oh, shit. Oh, my goodness. goodness man they're throwing down damn miles of a doll i love his movement man his head movement he's always moving he's sharp dude very sharp very sharp i never root against bendo though what i wonder if there's any benefit of having all that hair for sure not i was thinking the comfort fact that you guys were saying oh he needs to shave it but like if you're in the fight
Starting point is 01:33:31 and you like he keeps a toothpick and if you get used to just moving your hair back maybe that's kind of like your reset in your head you're just like okay i'm just chilling out getting my breath back and then you're coming with the combos. Who knows, man? On a psychological level, it could be there. True. If he's so used to it. It could be like a comfort zone thing. Guys are timing it. Like, Frankie Edgar timed it.
Starting point is 01:33:50 When he would touch his hair, Frankie would fucking come at him, man. The toothpick thing is so insane. The fact that he's fought world championship fights with a toothpick stuck inside of his mouth. That is weird. It's just like a comfort thing, you know what I'm saying? Some people use their breathing as a comfort
Starting point is 01:34:06 thing to relax their breathing and be like, alright, I'm good. I'm safe. I go back to my breathing. He does a toothpick. Some people think that chewing, like I had an old Japanese surfer, stoner, student named Yoshi, and he used to roll and do jujitsu and chew gum.
Starting point is 01:34:22 He said that when you're chewing, it keeps you sharper. Yeah, a lot of people believe that. A lot of people play pool, they chew gum. Really? Yeah, another thing I've heard is that when you chew gum before something, it's good because your body relaxes. Because it says, well, we can't be in danger. This motherfucker wouldn't be eating.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Damn. Yeah. I sure wish I chewed gum when I fought. Bro science. Bro science to the fullest. Bro science to the fullest. Damn yeah, that might be just a choose. I'm not my thought bro Or maybe maybe to the fullest there's some more bro science Oh, she got full of shit. How about your sharper because your body's going this motherfuckers eating? He's vulnerable you better keep those senses on point because right now I get attacked by some Wolverine that makes sense sure bro science But make sense To a new place right now and get attacked by some Wolverine. That makes sense. For sure bro science, but it makes sense. That's even broier. You took bro science
Starting point is 01:35:07 to a new place. That's even broier. I'm going to go with that. Oh, man. This is a good fight, man. Ooh, nice jab. I'd love to see what kind of contract Bellator offers Ben after this Do you think they're going to offer him one?
Starting point is 01:35:32 110% What if he loses? Oh shit, still offer him Oh no, no more Interesting I wonder why he abandoned that But he's going back to it. Maybe he likes it on the right side better.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Oh, shit. Maybe he likes it on the right side better. No, he lost it. Ben's jiu-jitsu transitions are nasty. Oh, man. That was a bad idea. I hate this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:58 I hate this. He's lifting him up. That is sick. That's nice. He's lifting him up and knee him in the face. Talk about a veteran. Talk about a veteran fucking move. That's a great move. That's nice. He's lifting him up and knee him in the face. Talk about a veteran. Talk about a veteran fucking move. That's a great move.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Hell yeah. That's a good move because that position is terrible. Touching the ground. You can't do much, man. People touch the ground. You can't knee him in the head if you don't know what we're talking about. Oh, shit. He fucked his face up, man.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Damn, son. Mas Vidal's face is a mess now from those knees. That was some slick shit. That was pretty slick. Hell that was dope i just think that that relying on that is crazy it is crazy and the the that gray area where it's the transition touching you hit a guy in the face and they stop it stupid stupid i like what herb dean does herb dean someone is doing that and they get nailed. He goes, you're playing the game. Yeah, don't play the game.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Herb's the best. Look at this combo, man. God damn, what a fucking round. Yeah, great main event. Dude,
Starting point is 01:36:56 why am I the only one pissing? Does no one drink as much coffee as me? I'm conditioned for this shit. You are. For real,
Starting point is 01:37:03 my body's gotten so used to it. I go three rounds. I'll be drinking coffee three hours. Do you just gorilla piss it when you get out of there? Yeah, it's ridiculous. Where's all that piss coming from?
Starting point is 01:37:17 Like a raging river after a storm. Dude, how come they don't have the round up there? Oh, they do. The three. Look at that. Look how they do that. That's weird. The dashes on the bottom. That's terrible.
Starting point is 01:37:34 And they're white. And it blends in with the ring. Yeah, that's a little odd, isn't it? How about the number three, you fucks? How about round three? Dude, how about the sponsors in Korea? How about the main sponsors, that massage chair in the middle? Okay is one of the other ones, whatever okay is.
Starting point is 01:37:52 See? Out there, that's the shit. It's like water. Sakuraba water shirt. Interesting. This is an interesting fight, right really good fight man back and forth hard hard to judge yeah i like a fight like this being five rounds too fuck yes because it's gonna get more clear as these rounds go on who the judges are from where did they fly them in are we talking
Starting point is 01:38:17 about some korean judges that's a good question because since sexy i'm a lost i gotta assume they're not korean because korea is notoriously bad for, or known for bad decisions. Because of the Roy Jones Jr. fight. Remember when Roy Jones Jr. fought in Seoul, South Korea in the finals of the Olympics. Lit that dude up like a fucking Christmas tree in Times Square and they gave it to the Korean. That's ridiculous. Remember that? That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:38:42 And then the Olympic committee, they got in trouble. There was all this allegations of bribery. Oh, it was so obviously dirty. It was so obviously dirty. You go and watch that fight. Roy Jones Jr. Roy Jones Jr.ed that dude. And he still lost the decision. It was awful. It was awful.
Starting point is 01:39:00 I've seen it in Taekwondo tournaments, too. Heavy favoritism. At least they used to have it. Dude, in boxing, it's the worst. In boxing, you never know what the fuck's... In the Bradley Pacquiao fight, we just saw it. Tonight is Vladimir Klitschko and Tyson Fury. That's a fucking fight.
Starting point is 01:39:15 I'm more excited for that than anything. I'm so excited for that. Hell yeah. Fury's undefeated. And not to mention, this is the first fighter that Klitschko's face that's bigger than him. Yeah, taller than him. See those elbows? 6'8", son. Yeah. Knocking dudes out. Yeah, and has a
Starting point is 01:39:30 really high work rate. Yes. Dude, so I think Klitschko's gonna beat Fury. The fucking fight is this monster. This dime piece of a man in England named Joshua. He won gold in the Olympics. You gotta see this dude.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Who is he? I think he's 6'7", light on his feet, athletic, knocking dudes out, undefeated. I'm telling you, this is the next motherfucker. What's his name? Joshua what? Dude, bring him up. Joshua. I forget his first name.
Starting point is 01:39:57 He's a heavyweight from England. Oh, his last name? What is his last name? Anthony Joshua. Anthony Joshua? And where's he from? England? Wait till you see this dude.
Starting point is 01:40:04 He has charisma. He's marketable. He's knocking dudes out. Anthony Joshua. Anthony Joshua. And where's he from? England? Wait till you see this dude. He has charisma. He's marketable. He's knocking dudes out. He's athletic as fuck. Brendan Shaw moving into sports management. Dude, tell you what. Wait till you see this dude, though. Pull him up, Jamie.
Starting point is 01:40:15 I want to see. Oh, my God. That's a real dude? That's a real dude. One gold. That's super heavyweight. Jamie, pull up a video of him boxing. Let's show a video of him boxing.
Starting point is 01:40:24 He's athletic, man. What's his name? Anthony Joshua. Anthony Joshua. How many fights does he have so far? Wins a super heavyweight boxing. Let's not. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Look at him in the Olympics. Give us a highlight reel, son. Let's get this hype train started. Look at those guns, though. Serious jab. Ooh, good fundamentals. See if you can find, like, a professional battle. There you go. Highlights, son.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Masvidalga kicking the balls. Perfect timing. This is a ball-kicking festival. That looks like Olympic boxing, bro. See if you can find one that's a professional fight. He's doing MMA now? No, no, no. He's boxing.
Starting point is 01:41:08 I think he's the next guy to compete with. Oh, here it is. Okay, here's him. Oh, Jesus. For how big he is, man? Look at all those people going crazy. That crowd is crunk as fuck. That's such a great statement
Starting point is 01:41:25 Dude look at that dude's body Interesting Wow that's what they've been waiting for right Yes Oh my god Look at him Works out like a pro athlete too For sure don't show him on the quad machine
Starting point is 01:41:40 Boy Highlight Real Nah So who's winning this fight We didn't even pay attention to the last round the quad machine. Boy, highlight? Real? Nah. So who's winning this fight? We didn't even pay attention in the last round. I think it's one and one and this round, I'm not sure. So right now
Starting point is 01:41:54 you believe one and one? Yeah. Though he did drop him in the first round, I would imagine he finished strong, Masvidal, in the first round so they would give it to him. So maybe one, two rounds to Masvidal, in the first round, so they would give it to him. So maybe two rounds to Masvidal then. That's what I would say. Well, the second round was Henderson, wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:42:11 Yes, that's why it would be two to one. So I'd give probably the first round to Masvidal, third round to – Even though he got knocked down? He didn't finish that strong. I mean, he beat him. Right, that's why I don't know. But it would be not realistically if you're going with that. We shouldn't score when we're not even paying any attention.
Starting point is 01:42:26 No, this is bro scoring. This is the first round. This is bro scoring, man. Bro scoring. Yeah, this is bro scoring at its finest. I haven't watched five minutes of this fight in its entirety once. I've seen about a minute 20 of this entire fight. I do like the way Masvidal moves, man.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Ooh, that kick to the body. His control and distance are really good, too. Knowing when to hit that switch kick, when to throw the body kick. Oh, man. It's a festival. It's a dick kick festival. Ooh, that looks bad. Good time for a piss break, though.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Jesus Christ. Benson's still sitting on the bottom. I was going to say that was pretty interesting. They gave him a stool to sit in while they waited for his balls to in. Well, I think it's the end of the fight. Oh, the round? But look at this. Oh, that was totally accidental.
Starting point is 01:43:11 They clashed knees, and it went right into the jig. Oh, time in. Okay. What? That was it. Yeah, time in, but it was one second. Okay. So then they bring the corners in.
Starting point is 01:43:26 So it was at the end of the fight or end of the round. It's just, it's interesting that more people don't wear those compression shorts like Diamond MMA cups. Which is amazing. They're amazing. Amazing. But it's very rare. Like fighters, a lot of them don't even know about them. A lot of guys like the Thai steel cup.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Do you like the Thai steel cup? No. No? It was also 50-50. Another thing you always got to worry about when you're dealing with those is if by any way it does pinch or nick it, you're still getting, now you're getting that smashed by the cup itself. Yeah. But the diamond cup was good, man.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Like the edge of your balls? Yeah. Yeah, dude, the edge of your balls can get caught with a cup on a kick. That's so awful. Yes. So awful. So what kind of cup prevents that? Or it doesn't matter?
Starting point is 01:44:22 No, the Diamond Cup, honestly, he hooked me up when I went to Chicago. He gave me one and that was the first time I ever used it. Do your balls ever get pinched? No, I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 01:44:33 It feels phenomenal. Diamondcupmma.com. So what do they do differently that prevents the balls being pinched? They have a crazy setup with the compression shorts and all these straps
Starting point is 01:44:44 and everything. And then the cup itself is like soft on the outside on the edges where it like connects to your leg, but then hard everywhere else. That's like regular cups. That's a real good design. That's like the cup I had in junior all-American football. I think it's different. Do you ever use one of those diamond ones?
Starting point is 01:45:00 Never. I got one for you. I never use cups. Do you want one? Oh, you don't want your work. I don't want cups. I don't either, son. Okay. I like my balls hanging. Dick swingers. Me too. Goddamn one for you. I never use cups. Do you want one? Oh, you don't want your work. I don't want cups. I don't either, son. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:06 I like my balls hanging. Dick swingers. Me too. Goddamn dick swingers. I like to rough my shit up like a cow's tail. I'm telling you, man, these diamond ones, you won't even notice it, and it will protect your dick. My knees are always protected. When you're drilling arm bars?
Starting point is 01:45:18 Your dick. Hey. You'll enjoy. Well, the other thing about the Thai cups were that people would use them for leverage. Like, they would say that it's like a leverage point for an armbar or something like that. It's like you have a rock there. You could break a stick over. You know?
Starting point is 01:45:33 It's like, it's not. Or back mount with a body triangle. It's just like hitting the spine. Or mount. Like, sometimes people mount you and they'll grapevine. Get that dick in your face. Or they'll, yeah, they'll get that dick right in your sternum. I call it the dick grinder.
Starting point is 01:45:47 If they could press the hard steel cup right in your solar plexus, that sucks, dude. He keeps doing that from the single. I know. It's worse than what, Eddie? Forget that. Eddie, you need to get on one of these nitro things It will wake your ass right up Yeah you're fucking around with that coconut water
Starting point is 01:46:08 I'm telling you I took one I am wide fuck awake But I already drank a cup of coffee And? I was like how does that compare to that? Dude I did a podcast with Tate They're both fresh as fuck I did a podcast with Tate two weeks ago I am not exaggerating
Starting point is 01:46:21 I think he drank four of these during the podcast He was so And he had coffee Regular coffee too Was he just talking like a motherfucker? He four of these during the podcast. He was so, and he had coffee, regular coffee too. Was he just talking like a motherfucker? Just wouldn't shut the fuck up. He couldn't. He was like he's on coke. He can't. He can't even blame a guy.
Starting point is 01:46:32 His fucking crazy beard. He's an animal. He's all excited about everything. Super enthusiastic. He's all tan. Yeah. He's just super enthusiastic about everything. He's just on crank.
Starting point is 01:46:42 He's on natural coffee beans. Super excited about everything. Fuck yeah, man. Those pickles. I love Tate. He's the best, man. He's the best. He's such a fun guy.
Starting point is 01:46:54 He's such a vibrant guy. So happy. Yeah, man. Fucking ugh. And he'll get deep. He will get deep. We got a slice of pizza the other day, and this fool fucking sat me down and got deep. I was like, damn, man.
Starting point is 01:47:05 I'm just trying to eat my pizza. Get the fuck out of here. Look at Benson with the takedown. Oh, shit. Lost it. Went for the back. Lost it. Masvidal on top looking for that darts again.
Starting point is 01:47:14 He's nasty with it, man. He likes that front choke. Two-man. Two-man hand fight, Ben. There you go. Back to defeat. Nice. Oh, right hand.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Oh. Great elbows. Oh. He's a little more polished, right,. Oh. Great elbows. Oh. He's a little more polished, right, with his combinations? Yeah, especially in tight. There's more fluidity to Masvidal's punching. Dude, Ben's hair is out of control now. Oh.
Starting point is 01:47:35 It's a takedown, son. Oh, that was perfect timing. Nice timing. That's a good Masvidal right back up to his feet. That's all greasy. Dude, Masvidal is nasty. He's a motherfucker. Nasty.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Dude, you know who I wouldn't mind seeing? Although Ben did beat him, but Masvidal versus Brandon Thatch. Got yourself a motherfucking fight, son. How is Thatch doing with the weight cutting now that he can't use an IV anymore? Does that have an effect on him at all? Yeah, he's a big-ass one. And he's also not that disciplined. So we'll see.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Hopefully he's doing it. Benson looking for the Kimura. Here, just in his face. That would drive me fucking nuts. Oh, he's going to have no room now. Look at this. Look at this, Seji Bra.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Look at this shit. Mission of Cornhole. That's this, Ejibra. Yeah, it's true. Look at this shit. Mission of cornhole. That's what we saw in the video. He's just going to pass. He's just going to push the leg down and pass. You think so? Yep. Not if Benson's good at this.
Starting point is 01:48:33 He's not. Benson can keep that left leg in play. It's all about the left leg. That's what I'm saying. He's going to pass. Oh, okay. He's passing over it now. Oh, boom.
Starting point is 01:48:43 He had to let go. He had to let go. It was all in that left leg, huh? Yeah, but he got lazy with it. Yeah, he did. He's going to pass. Okay, he's passing over it now. Oh, boom. He had to let go. He had to let go. It was all in that left leg, huh? Yeah, but he got lazy with it. Yeah, he did. He forgot about it. And never got hit once, though. He's also fatigued.
Starting point is 01:48:51 It's true. Good point. Yeah, he didn't control his posture the entire time. That's where it's at. Oh, oh. Do, do, do, do, do. This would be a good time to plug EBI. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Sunday. Sunday, December 13th, EBI 5. I just released the Countdown show. Just go to YouTube, EBI 5 Countdown show. It's dope, too. Did you watch it? Yeah, when he sent me the link, I watched it. Oh, cool, cool, man.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Yeah. Good, googly movie. Have you watched it, Joe? Yeah, it's awesome. It's great. Yeah, man, I'm pumped. It's a half hour. The whole Javi story, how... I don't know. How he took it in the last minute. Yeah, and now he's awesome. It's great. Yeah, man. I'm pumped. It's a half hour. The whole Javi story. I know.
Starting point is 01:49:25 How he took it in the last minute. Yeah. And now he's at 55. Different story. Yeah. Different story. Oh, yeah. Eddie Cummings is the 145 champion.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Now he's going up to 55, but no one gives a shit because he actually did 170 and tapped out Enrico Coco and he tapped out one of my guys. How can he move so well up and down and weight like that? He's so good with heel hooks, man, that he could do major damage at 170, 155, 145. It must be hard for him to make 145, though. He doesn't look like a 145-pound guy. Cummings probably walks around at 165, 167. That's what it seems like.
Starting point is 01:50:05 He did same day weigh in 145 EBI 4. That's impressive. That's on YouTube too. 1, 2, 3, and 4 all free on YouTube. EBI 5 is going to be on pay-per-view at budovideos.com slash EBI 5. Powerful. EBI.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Without a doubt, the greatest format ever for grappling competition. Agree. It's 100%. Not even comparable. You nailed it. It's amazing. You got it down.
Starting point is 01:50:30 It's so perfect because it's very exciting up until the final part because everybody's worried about the final part, but you solve the stalemate part and put them in bad positions and have them alternate between having the back mount with an over-under and having spider web. It's beautiful. It's the best. They actually get a choice. It makes it so exciting.
Starting point is 01:50:50 They actually get the choice. Dude, I might have a hard take if I drink another one, but I'm going to do it. You're going to be fun. And then we've got Denny coming back to defend his title, Denny Prokopos. And then Nathan Orchard at 155. That's a different animal because it's hard for him to make 55. He's going to be the tallest, longest man. And with his dead orchards and his leg locks, he's a...
Starting point is 01:51:11 Even more effective. Hanyaya's in there. Hanyaya. ADCC gold medalist Hanyaya is coming in. Hanyaya is a... I want to get a fucking shirt from him because he's got team constrictor. I always thought that was the dopest shit. I always wanted to ask him
Starting point is 01:51:26 when they were going into the Octagon. But he was fought on the undercard so I never got a chance to get back to him. Dude, I wish he was Team Constrictor.
Starting point is 01:51:33 I wish he was Team Honey Constrictor. What the fuck? That's your new shirt. Team Honey Dick. Team Honey Dick. Honey's just... Who says Honey Dick
Starting point is 01:51:44 more than you? You'd need a Team Honeydick shirt, man. For sure. Dude, I get so many tweets during UFC. Oh, this is UFC Honeydick. That's all I get. I'm like, no, I didn't say that, man. Hashtag Honeydick.
Starting point is 01:51:56 That's right. This is the last round. The final round. Oh. Masvidal has got some serious grappling. Serious grappling. Yes. The Darren Cruikshank fight.
Starting point is 01:52:08 As soon as you started grappling with Cruikshank, just shut all that down. Shut him down. Cruikshank, he's fighting soon, right? The Detroit superstar? I heard he did some porn for pay. Did he? You might have to look that up, Jamie. I don't want to start.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Oh, shit, look at this. I'm almost positive. Marcelo T. Look at this. Oh, he's trapped. He's caught with that hair. Oh, shit. Look at this. I'm almost positive. Marcelo T. Look at this. Oh, look at this. Oh, he's trapped. He's caught with that hair. Oh, he's caught. Quit going for the goddamn takedown.
Starting point is 01:52:29 He keeps spinning. Man, he's caught. He's caught. Oh, shit. He spins out. He's outside. He got it. Wow.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Very good defense. Wow, man. That is not good on your side. He's leading the game. Oh, shit. He's back again. Oh, shit. He keeps going to it.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Ben's confident. Okay, so that's a really close situation, right? That has to score for something. That has to be significant. That has to score like a knockdown. To me, he's in serious danger. Right, that's like a knockdown. Yes.
Starting point is 01:53:01 I mean, just because he doesn't get stunned and he doesn't get brain damage from that, that shouldn't factor in. That's as close as ending the fight as getting knocked down. Very dangerous. Maybe it wasn't that close. But it's a little different. If you do an arm bar and they get out of the arm bar, but they did hyperextend or break it or pop it, then you're still damaged and fucked.
Starting point is 01:53:21 I'll tell you right now, if you choke, you're still good after. If you got his back, if you took him down past his guard, dominated grappling, and then almost choked him, yes, 10-8. But from this kind of position, and then he throws a guillotine, but then they're still grappling against the fence. Ben was in trouble. He's not going to go through all that if it's not tight. But he kept going. It's got to count for something. Oh, big kick to the body.
Starting point is 01:53:43 Get taken down, son. Holy shit. God damn, his takedown defense. Goddamn, his takedown defense is on point. My word. Yeah, he was wrestling. Fuck, man. Really good. Hey, Ben's first team all ass, too.
Starting point is 01:53:55 He has some cheeks on him. He has some thick-ass thighs. He's like an NFL running back. Dude, he had some of the best ground and pound where he would stand in the guard and just drop bombs and stay almost in a horse stance. I remember WECs. Look at this world all the time. He rolled.
Starting point is 01:54:12 Boston, though, lost the position. Oh, man. Dude, how can you score this fucking fight? Oh, he should have kept that. He's getting tired. Dang. Yeah, he's getting tired, and Ben's thriving. They're so slippery. Look at all that grease. Oh, Ben's thriving They're so slippery Look at all that grease
Starting point is 01:54:27 Oh my god This is crazy Look at all that grease Ben's grappling Ben's grappling the fuck Out of them right now Are you talking? What?
Starting point is 01:54:33 Google that Cruxshake stuff At your own risk Why? Eh I'm right right? Eh I think so It's unconfirmed rumor In 2008
Starting point is 01:54:41 Okay They don't call them Detroit Superstar for nothing There's some shit That's what I heard Is it the regular kind? I don't call them Detroit Superstar for nothing. Pictures popped up. There's some shit. That's what I heard. Is it the regular kind? I don't want to. It said something about
Starting point is 01:54:48 Solo and some other name. Solo? Like jacking? I'm not looking too hard. Solo jacking? There's nothing wrong with that little jack for You know what, man?
Starting point is 01:54:56 In the future, there's going to be Photoshop so realistic and CGI so realistic on everybody's computer. We're all doing gay porn. Whether you like it or not, there's going to be videos all doing You like it or not there's gonna be videos you get stuff
Starting point is 01:55:08 Well, there's been memes that make a sucking dick left and right, but that's just pictures They're gonna be able to do that shit with video in no time You know like any video you watch today highly suspect Oh, I grew of a news event a monster attack Bigfoot in the woods. They can make anything happen now. Don't get any started. They can make anything happen now. And in the future, you're going to be able to watch every celebrity you've ever wanted to watch. Fuck. I'm looking forward to that.
Starting point is 01:55:36 Yeah. Jennifer Lawrence. Dude, I'm fucking in. Marilyn Monroe. Sold. Tracy Lourdes and all of them together in a room. I'm in room going after it Chris Farley gonna blow up
Starting point is 01:55:46 David Spade sucking Chris Farley's dick all that's gonna happen all that's real then you're gonna get the holograms right where it's like a 3D right in front of you you're gonna watch it right in front of you and it'll be like it'll be so good, the holograms will be so good
Starting point is 01:56:03 you won't be able to see through them. They'll look like real three-dimensional objects in front of you. I can't wait for this. Yeah. You're just going to be shooting loads, and the loads will go through them. They'll disappear. You better set your shit up, though. No, the loads are going to be there.
Starting point is 01:56:17 You just have to have shit set up. Your own loads. Digital loads? Like if you were jerking off. It's like a litter box, a cat litter box. You just jerk into it. It's like a litter box, a cat litter box. You're just jerking to it. It's going to be crazy. What we're going to see in the next 20 years as far as the ability to artificially manipulate images and make things like that magic leap.
Starting point is 01:56:36 You ever seen that magic leap technology they're working on? They don't know how they're doing it because they haven't revealed it yet. But they show this elephant dancing in this person's hand. They show this little girl sitting on a bed. And a four-inch ballerina is dancing in front of her on the bed. And it looks real. What the fuck? Yeah, it's insane.
Starting point is 01:56:54 Is she holding something? I don't know. I don't know how it works. See, the thing is, in the images that they show, they haven't fully revealed it yet. But in the images they show people doing it it the people don't have any goggles on there's like it's not like there's some technology they have where you see it through like ski goggles look at this look at this like this is like under a deck shot directly through magic leap technology so like they they have these holograms that they can project in the air like that.
Starting point is 01:57:25 Like, look at that. I want that one. That's some Avatar shit right there. I know. Like, you're sitting there eating, and above you is the solar system spinning around. Well, the ones that they showed, they had one of them where it was a whale on the beach. It was crazy. Did you see in Robin Williams' Will, he has a contract where they can't use any of his name or likeness for future holograms
Starting point is 01:57:46 or any technology like this. Wow. How smart is that? He's like, I don't want to be recreated when technology can do that kind of stuff. He doesn't want to be like Tupac at Coachella. Yeah, he doesn't want any of that. Pretty smart to think of that shit. They should have like a real time solar system.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Pretty smart. Like where the Earth is in relation to the other planets, like real time. Pretty smart that they pretend that you're looking at The planets because they put it right over that girl's titties So like yeah, I am I'm looking at the solar system. Meanwhile Ferocious Is there some late like Ted type show with the latest technology and jerking off? Wouldn't you want to watch it?
Starting point is 01:58:26 That didn't make Ted. Who's winning? Oh, shit. It could have gone either way. I can't. Yeah. Wow. I didn't watch it close enough, but Split Decision sounds right.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Yeah. Oh, there's his wife and new baby. Man, the cardio. He doesn't get tired at all. What happened? They happened it went right to why they go right to Masvidal That it why would they do that So it's so infested terrible hold on Okay. He seems like he's accepting the defeat. It's weird they went right to him, though.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Never seen it before. First time ever. Someone fucked up. You think so? 100%. You can't go to him first though. Never seen it before. First time ever. Someone fucked up. You think so? 100%. You can't go to him first. Talk to the winner. It does seem weird.
Starting point is 01:59:32 Maybe they want to get... Maybe they do a different career. Unless Kenny Florin, and we didn't listen to the commentary, unless he was saying in the commentary that he thought that Masvidal won. This was a heck of a fight. This doesn't make sense. What do you think was the difference here in this fight against Masvidal won. This doesn't make sense. Damn, he's straight up. Damn, they're talking to Benson in Korean like he doesn't understand English.
Starting point is 02:00:08 Ben's mom's Korean. I know. Can I get an amen? Can I get an amen? Can I get an amen? Do his arms look tremendous? Huge. 170 looks great.
Starting point is 02:00:29 How's the interpreter going to actually interpret this? Let's keep this bus rolling. Bus. Roll. Bus and roll. Amen, amen, amen. Roll. Bounce.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Why do you? bus and roll a a man a minute bounce who I disagree well we weren't really paying attention that much Kenny I saw Kenny was on the stick fondling his luscious beard. Hmm. Let me pontificate. Hats off to Jorge George Mastro. Also stepping up and giving me this fight. Who's a bad butt son of a gun? A bad buck son of a gun? Is that what he said? Butt? He was trying so hard not to cuss there.
Starting point is 02:01:20 I think he said butt, right? He said a bad butt. Bad ass. Son of a gun. A bad butt son of a. He was trying not to say ass. Bad ass. Yeah. Son of a gun. A bad butt son of a gun. Bad bottom son of a gun. Hmm. Bad booty bandit? Bad booty bandit.
Starting point is 02:01:32 People might boo him if he did that boo. Big dick bandits. I get this texted to me or tweeted to me more often than not when I connect myself to you guys in some way. Big dick bandits. Big dick bandits. What does that mean? It's just a song that we sing Dick Bandits. Big Dick Bandits. What does that mean? It's just a song that we sing on the show.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Sing it for me. How's it go? It goes, Big Dick Bandits, Big Dick Bandits. It's like a- Why Bandits? Are you robbing banks with your dick? I don't understand. Robbing dudes' bitches.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Dude, at these live shows, they ask us to sing it. Me and Brian are starting this chant of Big Dick Bandit. Those live shows must be so silly. So fun. So fun. You're doing a lot of them. Didn't you do one Wednesday night? Like the night before Thanksgiving?
Starting point is 02:02:15 Yeah, Wednesday night. They're all sold out, man. That's amazing. Then the West Coast tour. They're all selling great. Like I was talking before, I'm just worried about the Seattle and Portland because they're huge theaters for us. You us, 800, 900 seats. That's big.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Yeah. Jesus Christ. What about Denver? Have you done Denver? No, we're doing a Midwest run and an East Coast run later in 2016. What are you going to do? East Coast? East Coast, we're going New York, Boston, I mean all over.
Starting point is 02:02:41 What are you guys doing for Boston? I'm not sure. Just do have Wilbur really get crazy go 1200 seats for sure come with us see what the fuck happens
Starting point is 02:02:50 for sure come with us I'm already there I'm already there April's 1st and 2nd I'm there I'm already there I'm already booked yeah
Starting point is 02:02:56 I'm already booked I just sold tickets I'm doing shit way in advance now that's how the like the UFC the problem is like the UFC doesn't announce
Starting point is 02:03:04 their schedule like as far in advance as usually do book like theaters and stuff like that so like a lot of times like well I'll come into a place like
Starting point is 02:03:13 they'll announce it like a couple months out and I'll go let me see if I can find a place where I can work it's too late yeah everything's booked if I'm lucky
Starting point is 02:03:20 I can get the comedy club on like a Friday night but a lot of times I can't even do that I have to take like a late show. You need theater, son. Fuck this noise.
Starting point is 02:03:28 I like comedy clubs, though. I bet. I'm just saying. Especially with UFCs in town, everyone wants to see your shit. Yeah. This is what I want to see. This fucking fight. God damn, I hope this actually happens.
Starting point is 02:03:40 Dude, it's happening. God, it's got to happen. It does. Aldo and motherfucking McGregor. Dude. We got to have the fight before McGregor puts more tattoos on, too. That tiger one. All right, man.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Someone's got to tell him. Slow down. Just slow down. Why would you cover your abs up, bro? I don't know. He has nice abs. But why would you do it? The tattoo's so good good it looks 3d
Starting point is 02:04:05 like a tattoo tiger in my belly it's too much it's too much and why why a tiger on the stomach it just loves tigers it just loves really into it i don't know man maybe it's like some spirit look at this boom how come they're not showing the short-haired uh rose pick they don't have they didn't update them and They don't want to. And the trimmed-haired Van Zandt? It is trimmed there. It's perfect. That's exactly how much she cut off.
Starting point is 02:04:29 I'm not kidding. I'm not mad at it. Good for her. You go, girl. She would look hot with a shaved head. Please. That girl would look hot with a crew cut. She's hot as fuck.
Starting point is 02:04:38 They're both hot as fuck. She'd have one leg and I'm on board. Yeah. I dated a girl who was completely shaved and bald when I first moved out to California. Really? By choice? Yeah, she's hot. She would wear weird wigs and shit.
Starting point is 02:04:49 That's kind of cool. She was hot. She must have been on heroin or something. She was just crazy. She was from Norway. Oh, she was a wild cat. Oh, Jesus, Louises. You don't shave your head just for the fuck's sake.
Starting point is 02:05:00 That's like some cleansing heroin recovery shit. She was smart as fuck, too. Very interesting person. I bet she was a freak in the sheets. Listen, I'm not a kiss and tell type of guy. But what was weird was doggy style. The back of the head, like, shaved. It was like, it was odd.
Starting point is 02:05:18 Like, at least we were looking at each other. I could see, like, you're pretty. You're a girl. Even though you don't have any hair. Dude, I've been there. I've been with muscular chicks and my dick doggy stomata yeah, not like that. I was in my 20s I was still it was too young to handle weirdness. I agree. No I was 26 can't handle weirdness at 20 Let a fuck your whole game up. You're just too weak
Starting point is 02:05:41 You're not ready for yeah, you're not. Any one thing can kill your boner. You need experience, man. Put you in a fucking spiral of panic. It was a good-ass fight, man. Yeah, it was a really good fight. Good card, man, overall. Fuck, yeah. For whatever we paid attention to.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Shit, man, for Ben, though. We should just get together at 5 o'clock in the morning some days and just have a podcast. Just fucking do it. Just watch TV. It doesn't matter. Have Flintstones on or some shit. It doesn't matter. Watch Fox News and talk about the girls delivering the news.
Starting point is 02:06:07 Bunch of chicks with skirts on. Let's talk about them. CNN brings the heat, though, with chicks. Do they? Oh, what? It's new? I watch it every morning. I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:06:15 It's just the way they operate. Well, they have to probably compete with Fox, because Fox is bringing in them she-devils. Those blonde, white she-devils. And Telemundo. If you watch. And Telemundo. If you watch news on Telemundo. I can't handle that. I can't handle that. It's too hot.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Can't pay attention to the news. All them senioritas giving out the news. The ruby red lipstick. They don't even fight around with natural skin colors. I wish I got that channel as a teenager. I ought to jack my shit raw. Do they have that on YouTube? Them Spanish ladies my shit raw. Do they have that on YouTube? Them Spanish ladies doing the weather?
Starting point is 02:06:46 Do they have them on YouTube videos? Have you seen that Spanish girl on Telemundo doing the weather? Oh, fuck. Her body is ridiculous. She's an angel. I was 10 seconds. More of an angel than sexy ama? No, let's not get crazy.
Starting point is 02:07:03 You used that twice. Yeah, I did use that twice. You gotta be careful. She's a legit Latin angel, man. Really? Yes. Damn. She crossed over because she was on TMZ and shit.
Starting point is 02:07:11 She's so fine. Really? There she is. There you go. Oh my God. Look at that ass, son. Oh my goodness. Is that real?
Starting point is 02:07:18 Yeah. That's a weird ass. Major smoking hot storm front. How dare you, Eddie Bravo. It's a weird ass. Weird in that it makes my dick dance. Yeah, weird that my dick's filling up with blood. If that's what you mean by weird.
Starting point is 02:07:29 Look at her ass in the right hand, the last frame. Oh my God. It's like, it's insane. I don't know. First of all, it's really rude that she sticks it out like that. It's her left cheek that's kind of weird. The right cheek is perfect. Eddie, bro.
Starting point is 02:07:42 Isn't that funny that a girl's totally allowed sticker ass cheeks out like that Like if a guy like walks around like this like pump a chest out and throws his arms back the guys I'll lose Like she if she stands like that for long she's gonna blow a disc blow a disc. 100%. That's not safe. That's so dangerous. It's so dangerous. You can't carry anything with your ass on like that. It's so dangerous. If she tried to carry like a lunchbox she might fucking have a herniated disc.
Starting point is 02:08:11 Dude, she's my girl. She's walking around like that all the time. Is there a video of this? I'll carry her wherever she fucking walks. Click that shit. That's so fun. The ass on the right hand side is off the charts insane. Yannick Garcia, is that how you say it? Oh my god. Bro, simp. Yeahannick Garcia, is that how you say it? Oh my God. Oof.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Bro, Siv. Yeah, you know, there's that Latin body, that voluptuous, like, what's that girl? There is the second video. Sofia Vergara. Oh, shit. Ferrara. Oh my God, look at that video. I'm telling you, bro.
Starting point is 02:08:39 What? Yes. That's a weather girl, son. Oh my God. Get your fucking weather from Mexico. See what happens. What the fuck? Okay, so she Oh, my God. Get your fucking weather from Mexico. See what happens. What the fuck? Okay, so she doesn't even have to arch her back.
Starting point is 02:08:49 Who the fuck is that guy? Who's that guy? Is that a guy talking about her? Is he breaking down her body? Yeah, he's breaking down her booty. Y'all weren't ready for that, were you? Shows off booty live on TV. Good Lord.
Starting point is 02:09:01 It makes our weather girls look like fucking shit. Here's a little fucking pro tip to the guy doing the video. We don't need to see you. We can hear you. Yeah, just voice over, son. Yeah, we don't need this. This is not necessary, sir. This is interrupting with the girl's booty.
Starting point is 02:09:16 Yeah, we don't want to see your lame ass. Stop. Jamie, please, get away from him. Quickly. Find another video. There must be other videos. This is outrageous. What is that? Dead fish or some shit?
Starting point is 02:09:26 Yeah, that booties compilation Yes, oh, oh my god. There's a compilation of her What other girl has a weather who has a body like that on planet Earth doing the weather a good girl like her? Hmm so important it is very important. I bet their ratings through the roof Jesus meanwhile in America we get that fucking guy the black guy lost all the weight So important. It is very important. I bet their rating was through the roof. Jesus. Meanwhile, in America, we get that fucking guy, the black guy who lost all the weight. What's his name? You know who I'm talking about?
Starting point is 02:09:55 Al Roker. Al Roker. Oh, my God. Fuck you, Al Roker. Fuck. Fuck. We get that black guy lost on the way. Oh, my God. That's so stupid.
Starting point is 02:10:09 It's so stupid. Look at her. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. It looks like she's topless right there. No, no, no. It's just red. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:10:18 You find a hotter weather girl and come talk to me. Yeah, I don't think. Well, girls don't get hotter. There's like a level of hot. They just get different. I agree. You know? They don't get hotter. There's like a level of hot they just get different I agree, you know, they don't agree hotter. It's like a nice. Yeah, it's just it gets to a certain point Like okay, this is just hot. She's just Undeniable she's a 10. Yeah, no guy looks at goes
Starting point is 02:10:36 But there are that's one of the most hilarious things about guys online Elbows are way too pointy bro. that's that's the standard one that people always mock off but there's there's so many guys that will talk shit about like unbelievably smoking hot chicks oh my god they talk mad shit online she ain't nothing to me bro maybe a six maybe a six Bro, real tits. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Dude, the internet and social media is fucking vicious. They're the most. Like Rhonda can't go on social media right now.
Starting point is 02:11:16 She needs to stay off her. She needs to post and never look at it. What if she laughs at the memes? What if she's having fun with it? Hey, Eddie, look at me. She's not. You don't think so? 100%.
Starting point is 02:11:24 That ought to be devastating. That's horrible shit, man. You know, that's a kind of KO, too, that you got to go, man, hopefully she recovers 100%, and she's back, and everything's great. But you don't have to recover 100% from a KO like that. Like, head kick like that, that's a bad knockout. Well, what about your confidence, too? What about, you know a bad knockout well what about your confidence too what about you know obviously health issues what about your confidence confidence is a factor invincible
Starting point is 02:11:50 you think you're a the best muffler on planet then all of a sudden it's like nah you're just like the rest of us yeah i mean that that certainly can be a factor but confidence i feel like maybe you could get that back through Meditation or through hypnosis or through something or through just hard work and determination maybe but the physical stuff like if it's bad It's bad. I agree like look at TJ Grant's a good example TJ Grant got one concussion He was in line to fight for the title. He has never fought since and now he's we went back to work Is he done done job? Yeah, and where's he working at like a mine in in canada god god he went to we went tj grant remember tj grant yeah lit up gray mainard look fucking fantastic elbows real his elbows devastating ridiculous nasty technique nasty technique tough fucking guy he's working at fucking hortons or some shit that's a bummer
Starting point is 02:12:40 those mining jobs like in al Alberta, they make good money. I mean, he had a good chance to be a world champ. Could have been a world champ. I mean, he might not have won the first time at the title, but he had real legit world-class skills. 100%. He could have made a good run. How about Chris Holdsworth? Same thing. Concussion.
Starting point is 02:12:59 He's got a problem. He hasn't fought since. Didn't he have an ACL, too, or something like that? Perhaps. Some kind of surgery. Maybe. Some kind of surgery. Maybe. I i remember joseph valtellini glory champion how to relinquish his title concussions if connor has a bad loss if he gets like KO'd and gets caught real bad head kick or something i mean damn hey let's well you know what man i think like look at first of all holly holmes all over the the place now. She's on every fucking news show.
Starting point is 02:13:25 She's all over ESPN and all these different sports shows. She easily could have a gigantic pay-per-view in her next card. People are excited about her. Only if it's Ronda. Maybe, but if it's not Ronda, she might have half a million. It's possible. If she has a good fight. It's tough.
Starting point is 02:13:42 But the amount of positive publicity she got out of that. Everyone's a fan. People are going to want to see her fight again. And if they see her fight someone like Cyborg maybe. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Yeah, yeah. Or at 140. If she says, I'll step up to 140.
Starting point is 02:13:58 And she fights Cyborg at 140. I think she fought as high as 150 when she was kickboxing. I don't think she'll. I love Holly. I think she fought as high as 150 when she was kickboxing. I don't think she'll... I love Holly. I think she's great. I don't think she'll ever be as big of a star as Ronda, no matter how many fights she She might not be. Ronda's had this perfect storm of personality and hatred and destroying girls in 16 seconds
Starting point is 02:14:18 where it was like this perfect storm. What if she becomes the next Cynthia Rothrock, man? She's going to be like the greatest B-movie. That's hilarious. Yeah, dude. B-movie. Cynthia Rothrock. That's hilarious. Yeah, dude. You just pulled that shit out of your ass. Dude, I was just saying.
Starting point is 02:14:29 I mean, she was like a forms champion, Cynthia Rothrock. Do you remember? Yeah. Her and, well, Kathy Long, actually. She was a kickboxer. Gina Carano, Holly Holm. I don't know. I'm just fucking...
Starting point is 02:14:41 That would be a crazy fight if Gina Carano came back. That makes sense. Let's just play devil's advocate. Let's say, and there's a good chance I'm not even hating, but let's say Conor were to lose. Who's the UFC superstar? John Jones. I'd say Aldo if he beats him. Oh yeah. No. Not in America.
Starting point is 02:14:57 John Jones. John Jones is the biggest. John Jones would be the next megastar. But how come Aldo can't be a megastar but Anderson was? I don't know, man. Because he's smaller? Is that what it is? I think so. That's the way America works.
Starting point is 02:15:10 If he beats Conor, he'll be on another level. It could also be the middleweight division's been for how long? Middleweight's been forever, and then Aldo is kind of still the only and the new division. But if Aldo crushes McGregor, people will just make comparisons to Ronda. Like, you guys overrated him. Yes. That's definitely what will happen. 100%.
Starting point is 02:15:30 They're like, oh, UFC, just the hype train, blah, blah, blah. See, but the thing is, the hype is real. Like, you look at his fights. There's no hype. He hasn't lost in 10 years, you fucks. It's real. But both, Conor and Aldo, both of them, that's real. I mean, you look at Conor destroying Mendes, beating the fuck out of Seaver,
Starting point is 02:15:51 blasting Poirier out in the first round. I mean, it doesn't compare to what Jose Aldo has done at all. No, but the Brandao KO. But he's legitimately skilled, 100%. That's an exciting fight. The what-the-fuck-is-going-to-happen factor is very high, right? You look at that fight. Super high. It's like The what the fuck is going to happen factor is very high. You look at that fight and you're like, what the fuck is going to happen?
Starting point is 02:16:09 You could speculate all day, but the best is what's going to happen after. Whoever wins, you'll be able to go online and they'll be the I told you so dudes. 100% lined up. Lined up. It's so weird, man. What kind of dude gets on social media, way to go, Joe Rogan,
Starting point is 02:16:26 Eddie Bravo, and Ben? Way to go. I don't mind that. That doesn't bother me. What is kind of crazy is the ferocious beating they're giving Ronda. Ferocious. I feel like she asked for it, though. When you post
Starting point is 02:16:42 that night before the fight, you fucking fake-ass bitch. Hey, it, though. Like, when you post that night before the fight, like, you fucking fake-ass bitch, blah, blah. Hey, man, relax. So when you act like that and you don't shake hands and you're an actual, you know, when you go after these girls you don't have a reason to, then people are like, you know what, now you're being a bully. And so when you lose at that level. Yeah, you're being a goon, man. Yeah, you're being a goon.
Starting point is 02:16:58 She was a goon. Goon's a good word. Goon's a legit word, man. That's a good word. You know, when I started using that word again, Eddie Bravo was back before we knew that North-South Choke was legit. And Monson got someone a North-South Choke, and you said, he gooned him. I said, he gooned him? He gooned him.
Starting point is 02:17:18 He gooned him. That's a great word. I remember I started using that word a long time ago. Because think about how long North-South chokes have been legit. But there was a while where we didn't know that a North-South choke was legit. Monson made that shit. And Monson is such a tank. He just assumed that he gooned him.
Starting point is 02:17:32 Who bought that choke? Like, come on, man. You're just squeezing on his head. That's what we thought. Goon squad, son. Meanwhile, you're really good at that. That's my shit. I love North-South chokes.
Starting point is 02:17:42 I'm like a purple belt with that thing. Every now and then I'll put them on. Carwin was a beast. North-south choke is like all the elements of the head and arm choke, which is always my favorite, but you don't put pressure on your own neck. Yeah. You don't have as much pressure on your own neck. Marcello's really good at them.
Starting point is 02:17:56 It's easy to save it. Marcello will fuck you up. My neck's all fucked up from head and arm chokes, man. I think Hany Yaya actually got one in the UFC. Yes, he did. Maybe one or two. Yeah, I think he did too. Yeah, you don't call people a goon anymore when they do it. No, it's a nasty technique. Super nasty.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Yeah. Who else fucking did that? Someone did that. It was Juan Canero. Did he nail one? Did he land one recently? I feel like... Mark Munoz? Because he did that three fights in one night. Somebody got that north-south choke recently. I don't remember. Whatever. It's a one night. Somebody got that north-south choke recently. I don't remember.
Starting point is 02:18:25 But that's a super, whatever. It's a super effective technique. But when you said it, you were like, he gooned him. And I was like, I remember. I don't think I made that up. I think it's. Oh, I don't think you did either. But you said it to me.
Starting point is 02:18:35 It's a great term. But yeah, it's like. Ben just brought it back. Goon. She's like, she's being a goon. She's being a goon. See, I think you're totally right that she brought it on herself in a lot of ways. And what makes someone excited about a guy like Floyd Mayweather pulling it off and laying
Starting point is 02:18:50 those stacks of paper, if he did get KO'd, can you imagine if Manny Pacquiao landed a bombing right hook? Same shit. He would get so much hate. Oh my God. But meanwhile, when Manny got knocked out by Manuel Marquez, I mean, there was almost none of that. There was like, whoa. There was like meme
Starting point is 02:19:05 here. You felt bad for him because he's a good person. He's not mean or has, he doesn't have bad intentions. He's like, well, I hope the fight goes good. Floyd is a very good boxer. Yeah, I love everybody. Like, all right, cool, man. I don't want to see that guy lose. Thank you, Jesus. That was weird, man. For as much as
Starting point is 02:19:21 she is getting kind of memed on and people messing with her and whatnot, would you say that's probably the most expensive head kick knockout anybody's ever been paid? Yeah, probably. Right? No one ever probably made as much money as she did. When you think about, she has a percentage of pay-per-view buys. That was over a million pay-per-view buys.
Starting point is 02:19:41 No way. Yes, it is. A million pay-per-view buys? Over. Over. That was the biggest UFC ever, then. No. No.
Starting point is 02:19:47 Brock was? Some of the GSP fights. GSP's, Brock's, yeah. They cracked a million. I didn't know that. Brock did. Brock's probably the biggest UFC star. There's still no one to compare Brock.
Starting point is 02:19:56 This rematch, the rematch with Holly Holm will probably break records. Well, that's why Holly's not going to fight anyone else, because that's the UFC's fight. records. Well, that's why Holly's not going to fight anyone else, because that's the UFC's fight. But wouldn't you say that from just the injury alone, just the head kick alone, she needs, like, when Freddie Roach was willing to work with Pacquiao
Starting point is 02:20:13 again after the Juan Manuel Marquez fight, he said, I want you to take a year off. I agree with Ronda. Go do all the movies you want. A year. You think so? A year? But Holly's not going to wait a year. Then Holly's going to have to fight somewhere else. The other thing is the pressure from the UFC and Dana and Rhonda being so close. It's going to be tough for her to be like, no, I want to take a year off.
Starting point is 02:20:31 Right. But she needs a significant amount of time. Even if it's not a year, it should be several months with no contact at all. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Now, are the people surrounding her, if they're looking out for her best interest, are they going to allow her to do that? Let's see who's really in her corner.
Starting point is 02:20:47 Someone in her corner should say, take a year off. Let's just clear everything. Take a year off and do your thing. And she, with her strong will, she might think she can come back sooner than she can, right? And that's where your fucking people around you should be like, no, we know you want to. Here's what we're, this is the game plan. Her manager should be like, here's the game plan. She needs to take a year off, but of everything except wrestling, she should move to Iowa,
Starting point is 02:21:11 buy a ranch. You know what I mean? You can't fly him here. Buy a ranch, then you got to sell that ranch after you win. Maybe rent a ranch. Bring all your girlfriends out there. You know what I mean? Rant. And wrestle.
Starting point is 02:21:22 Definitely rent Iowa. Wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle. Good luck selling some shit from Iowa. Go to Oklahoma for a couple months, Iowa for another couple months, Illinois. Just hang out with all them wrestlers. Or just make a shitload of movies for a year and then just do your thing. Well, not only that. I mean, there's some good wrestling in California.
Starting point is 02:21:37 You don't have to. Fuck yes. You're going to get plenty of good wrestling. She needs to get away from all this shit. She needs to go find a cornfield. No, she needs a break, man. Cornfield? Yeah, cornfield and run.
Starting point is 02:21:45 Run it during the day. Like that Kevin Costner movie? Yes. Field of Dreams? How long before the HBO Ronda movie comes out? Just Ronda. Oh, man. That stuff's tough to sell now.
Starting point is 02:21:55 Rousey. That's tough to sell now. Rowdy. It isn't if she comes back. If she comes back. Tough to sell? Are you kidding? This is the best.
Starting point is 02:22:01 It's better than ever now. Are you kidding? Only if she wins a comeback. Remember when Rocky lost against Mr. T the first time they fought twice in Rocky 3 and he got his ass kicked in the first one? Do you know that? Remember that? That set up, that main event.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Hey, this is not real. You're talking about the main event. I know. That's fake. No, but what I'm talking about, if it's in the movie, that's how you get people excited. Eddie Bravo's high. You know what? He got beat.
Starting point is 02:22:23 One hour sleep. He got beat. And ambient. Hey, Rocky got beat like at in one hour sleep. He got beat at like... You're on ambient. Hey, Rocky got beat like at the one hour 20 minute mark. You're talking about Rocky?
Starting point is 02:22:29 God damn it, Eddie. God damn it, Eddie. He got knocked out at the one hour 20 minute mark. I thought, how could this be? How could he lose?
Starting point is 02:22:36 It's the movie over. But the movie wasn't over. How could this be? It wasn't over. Right now, there's still 45 minutes left in the Ronda movie. This is where she comes back. It only works if In the Rhonda movie This is where she comes back
Starting point is 02:22:46 It only works if there's a comeback This is where she moves to Iowa Instead of Rocky Going to the fucking The mountains She's gonna go to Iowa By herself No girlfriends or nothing
Starting point is 02:22:54 Do they just write that part Or do they actually show Hey you know what She's working on her autobiography Right She's working on the Rhonda story Well now she's got the best part of it Well she had the book already
Starting point is 02:23:03 She's got the The book's already come out They don't this here There's no end chapter in that Yeah, they need a fucking fill an extra chapter down. This is our chance to be Go Rocky three on you know, what's really crazy is that she's the favorite in the rematch Yeah, pretty not like I don't know what that's fucking in. So what are you basing that? Who's making the odds? Someone already made odds for a fight
Starting point is 02:23:28 That's not gonna happen Like there's odds for John DC already But you can't Can you bet? I don't think you can bet yet So there's odds They've established odds just to what? Just to jerk off?
Starting point is 02:23:42 Here's a look Have a look It seems to me that Just to what? Just to jerk off? Probably. Here's a look, yeah. Have a look. Jack off online. Yeah. It seems to me that you can't make Holly anything but the favorite. I couldn't imagine. We saw them fight.
Starting point is 02:23:55 We saw how it played out. We saw how strong Holly looked. We saw Holly take Rhonda down. We saw Holly completely light her up standing. I knew early in the first round, Rhonda was in trouble. Trouble, yes. Right away. You see that look on her face. Well, it's also Holly's movement.
Starting point is 02:24:08 Agreed. She was so light on her feet, and she was countering so well. I was like, unless Ronda lands a bump. She did land one good left hook, but it was right before Holly took her down. She landed one good left hook that made her sit down. She does boxing fights, and she eats some fucking shots from world-class boxing opponents and just keeps on keeping on. Did you see the one fight where she got KO'd?
Starting point is 02:24:29 Yes. That's hard to watch. The fight's great, though. It's back and forth like a motherfucker. But it's a brutal KO. It's a brutal KO through the ropes. Dude, I had a guy in Starbucks ask me. I wanted to slap the fuck out of him and throw this scolding hot coffee on him.
Starting point is 02:24:42 He goes, hey, man, heard the fight was fixed. Oh, my God. I get that a ton. People ask me, hey, I heard that fight was fixed. You fucking moron. Yeah, Rondo's like, let's fix this fight. And in this fight, you're going to outclass me on the feet. And then the second round, fucking kick my head off.
Starting point is 02:24:59 Because that's how we want this to go down. People are so dumb, they shouldn't be able to talk. There's some people that are walking amongst us that might as well be like shrews out in the forest. Straight up. Foraging for roots and berries. 100%. They might as well be, but they live in a society where they can get a job doing some stupid- Move this box over there.
Starting point is 02:25:16 Okay. God, I hate my job. It's a weird world, man. And they go and do that, and then they get health insurance, and then they survive. And then they fucking- They go to the hospital, and someone way smarter than them fixes whatever things wrong with them for reals man and they pretend like they're people but they're not they're like talking shrews dude this guy was like mad because i looked down and go are you serious and he goes dude it's not it's not crazy
Starting point is 02:25:36 to think that i'm like no it's fucking insane it's not crazy it's just stupid as fuck stupid as fuck that's like you shouldn't be able to comment on fighting. If you think that that looks like a fake fight, that's like me looking at an airplane going, how's that flying, bro? It's metal. I know. Bro, how's some metal fly? It's crazy, man.
Starting point is 02:25:53 Just shut the fuck up. It's really that stupid to think that fight is fake. There's a conspiracy theory where they're like, ah, let's have Ronda lose. No, that's the worst thing that could happen for them. Let's not do that. Speaking of conspiracies. What do you got, Eddie?
Starting point is 02:26:05 No, I'm just kidding. That was a perfect segue into Tower 7. Do you think Rocky's real? Kim Charles. Rocky. I'm not saying it was real. I'm just saying that's how movies are made. That's what movies are made of. She's in the middle of a real movie. No, I get it. No, she's in the middle
Starting point is 02:26:22 of some real shit. Yeah, some real shit. This ain't a movie. This story might not end like Rocky. Oh, we totally understand what you're talking about. I get it. She's in the middle of some real shit. Yeah, some real shit. This ain't a movie. What a change. This story might not end like Rocky. Oh, we totally understand what you're talking about. Rocky 3. You look at a long time ago. We got it. Holly Holm is Clubber Lang. Don't you get it? If you look at the difference between her life just a couple of months ago
Starting point is 02:26:37 and her life now, boy, she's on after Brazil, she's on top of the fucking world, right? She's cheered in Brazil, beats Betch Gohea by KO. The whole thing is just spectacular. The whole world falls at her feet. Was it ESPN or Sports Illustrated called her the greatest female athlete ever? She's on the cover of Ring.
Starting point is 02:26:54 Who was it? Damn. Cover of Ring magazine. It was either ESPN or Sports Illustrated. One of them. But whatever it is. She won an ESPY for fighter of the Year, beat up Floyd Mayweather. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 02:27:06 And then Holly Holm said, that's cool. Check this out. Shadoosh! And then fucking. Shadoosh! Kick that bitch into fucking 1997. And now here we are. That head kick, too, man.
Starting point is 02:27:19 The way she did it, where Ronda was like stumbling back and she didn't even see it coming. It's like Eve Edwards. Dude, every person tells me in her camp, every person goes, yeah, bro, no injuries. Well, no, I get that. But her brain's probably pretty fucked up. No, man, no injuries. Like, look at me in the fucking eyes. How can you say that?
Starting point is 02:27:39 How can anybody say that? It's insane. It's dangerous for the sport to pretend that that wasn't a devastating KO. Devastating KO. It's dangerous for the sport to pretend that that wasn't a devastating KO. Devastating KO. It's dangerous. That's the worst head kick KO in the history of combat sports. For women. Not for men.
Starting point is 02:27:54 Cro Cop and Gonzaga. Gonzaga, Cro Cop. All Cro Cop's fights in pride. That was different. No, I'm really- Hold, hold, hold. That was way worse. The reason why it's so big- That was way worse.
Starting point is 02:28:01 The reason it's so big, we've never seen someone of that caliber knock the fuck out like that. Like, we've never seen someone of that inner prime star get knocked the fuck out by a head kick. In that way, you're right. In that way, you're right. Yeah, that would be like if Vitor did that to Jon Jones when they fought for the title. Yes, exactly. If Vitor, like, rock-holding him with a wheel kick.
Starting point is 02:28:21 Then you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. But when Krokop and Gonzaga fight, it was big, but Crow Cop was on fucking TMZ every day. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. Star-wise, yeah, it's the biggest one ever. And it was pretty goddamn devastating.
Starting point is 02:28:35 And then when you consider the fact that she got lit up for all those hard shots in the first round. Taken down. Yeah, taken down. But really, the shots that she ate to her face, and then the big head kick comes in the second round. Taken down? Yeah, taken down. But really, the shots that she ate to her face, and then the big head kick comes in the second round. Like, boom. After missing that crazy wild left hook,
Starting point is 02:28:53 Holly ducks under, looks like a ghost. But you see interviews where everyone's like, no, her lip's fine. Doesn't matter. No, it's not, man. No, her lip got fucking split. She has stitches. Okay, but she got fucked up.
Starting point is 02:29:04 She had her on the ground for a bit. She had her on the ground for a bit. She had her in the car for a bit. She didn't really have the arm hooked. She didn't have the arm hooked. Yeah. Like, it wasn't really that close. Yeah. But the thing about, like, the KO is, it's not about what you're seeing on the outside.
Starting point is 02:29:18 Obviously, her nose is bleeding. She had blood in her mouth. Whatever stitches she had to have on her lip, that's all going to heal up. That's fine. But inside the dome, that's a head kick. Brain's a brain. Honestly, the face plant, too. The face plant was in the shots at the end.
Starting point is 02:29:34 Those didn't help. When's the last time you saw females get fucked up like that? Yo, and Holly's got some thighs on her, dude. I bet there's a lot of pop to those kicks. Fuck yeah. Because the way she bounces around the octagon. That's some serious force Did you see Rhonda called it before on a like Jimmy Kimmel? Yeah, she thinks she's gonna kick me in the head, but I don't think so
Starting point is 02:29:56 You're gonna get me frustrated. She called it all. Yeah, she really did. You know, I think There's you have to live a stoic singular existence to be a fighter at the highest level when you're fighting someone as dangerous as like a holly home and that's what holly did she lived a stoic singular existence she lived for a purpose you know she did her media obligations but she trained like a fucking wild beast she didn't have any movie distractions didn't have all this other stuff since Since she was 15 with the same staff. And she's got nasty skills, man. And she's been in world championship fights
Starting point is 02:30:30 multiple times. Meanwhile, why didn't we see this coming? I agree. If you go back to that fight podcast, the last of the fight. No, we all said it was ridiculous. I thought that Amanda Nunes would be a more dangerous fight. I thought they were honeydickers.
Starting point is 02:30:44 She had just finished Sarah McMahon. I agree. She's got KO power. I agree with you. She fucked Kat Zingano up in that first round. I was like, she's a dangerous fight. Yes, man. Amanda Nunes is dangerous.
Starting point is 02:30:54 But we're all wrong. If you look at it, we're all wrong. All wrong. But if you go back and if- The Raquel Pennington fight is what really threw me off. I agree. Her previous- Split decision.
Starting point is 02:31:02 Her previous fights, I was like, I don't really see it. She looked good. But if you go back and look at Holly's resume, you're like, oh, fuck yeah, man. Fuck yeah. When she was bouncing around in the octagon, too, you're like, she's got some serious movement. There was no one that- She's big, too. Rod that ever fought the move like that.
Starting point is 02:31:23 Compare her to Alexis Davis. I mean, there's just no comparison in the movement. No, she made Sarah McMahon look like a tortoise. You know what I'm saying? Sarah McMahon's like a tank, you know? Yes. She didn't even try to hide it. She came right in the ring.
Starting point is 02:31:35 She showed exactly what she was going to do the entire time. She always does that. As she's coming in, while they're doing the name call-out, she's like, I'm going to be going left and right. When Ronda went to throw that left hook and she just and Ronda ran into the cage, she turns around like, what the fuck? She was already stunned and dazed.
Starting point is 02:31:52 Like the fucking Matrix. She was already in trouble. Yeah, she had eyes right here. Like fucking, oh God. It's not Snowflake. It's weird for the world to see that, but I think, like we were saying, ultimately, I think for martial arts it's good.
Starting point is 02:32:06 Because you have to know that you've got to have all your ducks in order and you have to know that you've got to be able to do everything. And stay humble, my friends. And stay humble. Stay thirsty, my friends. Stay thirsty, my friends. Stay humble, motherfuckers. Otherwise you're going to get kicked into humbleness. But there's a lot of money in not being humble.
Starting point is 02:32:24 I was going to say, I was about to say. Conor McGregor. There's a difference, though. Conor McGregor, he talks some shit, but after the fight, he gives respect and he's humble. Hugging guys. Like, he's a great champion. You know, this guy has great skills. Ronda's not like that, man.
Starting point is 02:32:38 Right. That's why everyone, these memes and all this shit's coming out. Even Floyd Mayweather's humble. After he's like, dude, he's a great fighter, man. Right, right, right. Yeah. That's the difference. I see what you're saying. What is that? What is that from? I think it's this anger that she
Starting point is 02:32:51 has to fight with. It's this hole that she's had since losing her dad. It's just this dark darkness. You know what I'm saying? It's tough, man. Dude, you just killed my day. He just went there. He just went there. Yeah, that's dark. Yeah, she gets real. It's like for martial artists, though, when you watch that fight, it's such an important lesson that regardless of hype, regardless of past accomplishments, regardless of past performances that have looked spectacular, you've got to analyze all the movements.
Starting point is 02:33:22 Especially in the UFC. Everything. Especially in the UFC. Like boxing, you can start off a round or two. You might see a boxer go down four rounds, whatever, and they come back. In the UFC, there is no, all right, I'm going to figure it out. No, man. Especially at a world-class level.
Starting point is 02:33:36 They're going to murk you out. There's so many ways to lose. Yeah, that's a big thing. You don't have room for error at that level. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's pretty crazy. You don't have room. You don't have room for error at that level. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's pretty crazy.
Starting point is 02:33:51 Pretty crazy to watch such a shift, like a changing, not just a changing of the guards, but like just a shifting of reality. Is there a Dwayne Ludwig of wrestling? A guy who's taken dudes that weren't that good at wrestling and now they're just taking everybody down? Leicester Bowling. Leicester's done a great job. Muscle Farm Gym. Leicester's great. They have TJ Dillashaw there now.
Starting point is 02:34:08 Neil Magny. She's got to get on the wrestling. That year off should be wrestling every day. There's a bunch of guys. Kenny Johnson. There's a ton of good guys, yeah. A lot of people could help her with wrestling. That's all she should be doing.
Starting point is 02:34:18 Brendan had a good point about her knees, though. I was going to say that, too. Adaptation, man. I mean, everyone's different. If you've got bad knees, you've got to pull guard. Like, Ronda can't do road work. She can't do road work because of her knees though i was gonna say that too adaptation man i mean everyone's different if you got bad you gotta pull guard like ronda can't do road work she can't do road work because she doesn't do road work no like you see her jog on the sand but she can't jump on the road and do work to fuck her knees up wow do you think she's been doing judo since she was in diapers that's some shit man all their tossing all the knee movement yeah i had a body that i shredded knee
Starting point is 02:34:43 from judo judo's gnarly, man, in the gi. Especially doing it at her level. What? Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah. Well, I wonder if they could get that stem cell shit and shoot it in there. I'm sure. Pump it back up. It's gonna be very interesting times, because Holly's also
Starting point is 02:34:59 34, so you gotta think, like, how much longer can she compete at this level? Like, without any performance enhancing drugs? I would just be honest right at when you start hitting the 30s like it starts to wane the body stops Especially with her experience. Yeah, like when we were kids Boxers when they would hit like 34 35 it was over We got one you know NFL running backs as soon as they hit 30 game over. If you're 28, they're a little sketchy. Really?
Starting point is 02:35:27 30, you're taking the back of the shed. Isn't that crazy? Is that because of the damage that you take? Yeah, man, all the wear and tear. After 30, it never works out. After a couple knee surgeries and you're running back, that's why there's been so many scrambling quarterbacks. They come into the NFL, and this one's going to scramble his way to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:35:49 And their scramblers are hard like Michael Vick. But then they get hurt once, they get hurt twice, and now they can't scramble. Now they're forced to throw in the pocket. Then their careers fall apart. What's going to be interesting to see in the UFC after, let's say Ronda were just like, you know what, fuck this noise, I'm out, I got so much money. I'm Scrooge McDuck of girls. So he she pieces out.
Starting point is 02:36:09 You know what I'm saying? What happens to women's MMA? Because you can paint it how you want, but there's no... Ronda made women's MMA. She's a superstar. There's no other headliner like her. It would be Gina. It would be the same thing. Nope. Nope. You can't have Paige as a main event on a pay-per-view. Would never happen. Yes, you can. No, you can't. Against Johanna? Are you kidding? No, no, no. It would be Gina. It would be the same thing. Hold, hold. Paige fans out. Nope, nope. You can't have Paige as a main event on a pay-per-view.
Starting point is 02:36:26 Would never happen. Yes, you can. No, you can't. Against Johanna? Are you kidding? No, that's not a main event. What? That's not going to sell pay-per-views.
Starting point is 02:36:31 First of all, look. That's what they said about Ronda. No, they didn't. No. She was a superstar since day one. Well, Paige doesn't have the kind of skills that Ronda has yet. She doesn't have the finish rate. She doesn't have the X factor.
Starting point is 02:36:41 She might be able to develop those because she's real young and she's only been fighting for a short amount of time. Paige, she's very scrappy. She's very attractive, too, which is a plus. She trains hard. She fights hard. She's not Ronda Rousey. Not yet, but she could be. I'm just saying right now, if Ronda dips out, Holly Holm versus Misha Tate is a co-main event.
Starting point is 02:37:03 I would love it. It's a co-main event. There's a dude as a main event. There's no other girl right now who would carry a pay-per-view card. I think Holly Holm can. You're batshit crazy. I think Holly can.
Starting point is 02:37:11 No, you're crazy. The UFC knows that. I think Holly can carry a card. I think Joanna versus Paige Van Zandt will be a... That could headline a show. That's a fight night. You don't think Misha Tate
Starting point is 02:37:19 versus Holly Holm could headline a pay-per-view? Not at all. What about Cyborg-Holly Holm? Cyborg-Holly Holm. I think that's a co-main event. He's getting all. What about Cyborg-Holly Holm? I think that's a co-main event. He's getting aggressive. What about Cyborg-Holly Holm? Hell yeah, that's a main event.
Starting point is 02:37:30 Yeah, but it's a main event, but does the general public know who Cyborg is? That's what I'm saying. They could change that real quick. No, they can't. They just roll out the marketing machine, boom. They got so much power. They could blow Cyborg the fuck out of the wall.
Starting point is 02:37:43 I disagree. If you want to go deep with the marketing, do you mention the fact that Cyborg's tested positive for steroids? No, you can't. You don't even bring that up. You can't? Well, what? Don't even bring that up.
Starting point is 02:37:54 The media's gonna find out and just, I mean, because if you have Cyborg, listen, Cyborg has skills- But doesn't that make it like, doesn't that add an element? More enticing? But with her looks, with her looks, and it's like, what the fuck? Rocky IV. That's Rocky IV. Who's gonna buy that? They're gonna be like, what the fuck are we doing? Well, everybody,
Starting point is 02:38:08 me, Matt, you, we're some bros, but the general population, no, I love women. I hate them. Bro, come on. Bro, I mean, would I pay for that leather girl to get in the outgun? Yeah, I would, alright? That's a pay-per-view. Is she a headliner?
Starting point is 02:38:23 Oh my god. Her and Paige Van Zandt. I'm just saying what Ronda did for the sport, there's no one even close. No, not right now. Not right now. Every other girl's a cover now. Right. But you go to cyborg footage. What was amazing about cyborg, when she beat Gina, was how terrifying she was.
Starting point is 02:38:40 It was a different kind of force. I agree. And that was eight years ago. And she was fucking swole, and she was chasing down Gina. It was a different thing of force. I agree. And that was eight years ago. She was fucking swole, and she was chasing down Gina. It was a different thing. Scary to see. It was a very aggressive, powerful energy. Now, if you add that to accusations, and you show the positive test results.
Starting point is 02:38:58 And then she's your champ. You can have a quick. Okay, then she's your champ. Then what happens to women's MMA? It goes. What would it even be for the title? Six months of sprawl training. It would probably be...
Starting point is 02:39:08 Mike Tyson, bitches. Just six months of sprawl training. She comes out flying knee you in the head. Can you imagine how fast that girl could explode? Think about how she explodes off the line to tennis. They have to explode left and explode right. Hand-eye coordination? Teach her a flying knee.
Starting point is 02:39:28 Shaboom! Oh my God. Just launches through the air. Boom! Not ass, just ten minutes behind. Shadoom! Ten minutes? Fucking sick.
Starting point is 02:39:38 I wish, man. I'm just saying, women's MMA, if Ronda pieces out, has a long ways to go. Right. And Cyborg isn't your answer. No, it's true. If Cyborg's your champ, it kills women's MMA, if Ronda pieces out, has a long ways to go. Right. And Cyborg isn't your answer. No, it's true. If Cyborg's your champ, it kills women's MMA for a little bit. How dare you? And Holly doesn't have the personality to carry the torch like Ronda does.
Starting point is 02:39:53 I think she does. I think she has that Ronda Couture personality. I agree with you. There's room for that. There's room for that great American good girl that everyone's going to be behind, who's an amazing, the best striker in women's MMA. Chris Weidman's that guy. Then why isn't Chris Weidman the brand new Couture?
Starting point is 02:40:06 Yeah, but Chris Weidman didn't knock out Ronda Rousey. It's not the same thing. If there was some male version of Ronda Rousey that was like, fuck the world, some like- Fuck the world. Junie Browning type character that became a world champion. I haven't heard that name in forever. You brought out Junie Browning, son. I'm just saying a male version of that.
Starting point is 02:40:27 Like a really brash, aggressive. But they would have to be really good, too. They would have to have the skills to back it up. They would have to be undefeated. It would have to be like a new entity. A male Ronda Rousey. Like if he knocked out and just flattened Jon Jones, Chris Weidman would be fucking king of the world.
Starting point is 02:40:45 Yes. He wants to fight Jon Jones. Yes. Yeah. But you know what? What's interesting is, like I said, he's like 190-something now. Like 193. That's tough eating, right?
Starting point is 02:40:55 Yeah. It's interesting. Like I wonder what he's doing. He should be 170 then. Well, that fight might not happen because Jon's getting bigger and Chris is getting smaller. What if Chris goes to welterweight? Good luck. Good luck, everybody.
Starting point is 02:41:07 I want to see those pictures of him at 190, man. I know. He's got to be really skinny for 190. Yeah, I would imagine. Because he was walking 210, 250. He was a big boy. Yeah, big boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:18 Weidman is such a freak. Such a beast. He's a beast. And like John Jones, grew up with his brother beating the fuck out of him. Yeah, man. That's a big factor with a lot of fighters. It really is, man. You're in competition in the house all the time.
Starting point is 02:41:32 My record against my brother, I was one out of 3,000. Just a shitty, shitty record. Just beat the brakes off me all the time. We had to go to anger management. It got so bad. Really? Oh, yeah. It got so bad.
Starting point is 02:41:44 Because you're so tight now It's funny Yeah we're super tight That's weird How that works like that Yeah he's a serial killer Brothers have issues like that It's like Matt Hughes
Starting point is 02:41:52 And his brother Look the same They looked exactly like each other And they would beat the fuck Out of each other Look at John Jones His two brothers Are straight freaks
Starting point is 02:42:00 One's one of the best players In the NFL Just the three of them Beating each other up My brother would fuck me up He, I would have to be a slave He was four years older than me like when he was 12 I was eight and my mom in a summer vacation. I was the remote control. I turned off the lights Are you guys close now? Yeah, we're cool. Yeah. Yeah, I was just like we're cool
Starting point is 02:42:22 No, no, we're great Sounds really good. No, we're cordial. No, no, we're great. That's got to suck. It's got to suck if you beat your brother up and your brother becomes a martial arts champion. You're like, shit. He's a blue belt.
Starting point is 02:42:32 He's a blue belt. He's coming. He's a blue belt, whatever. He's a blue belt, man. Totally. Far cry from any problem. It's a little bit of a step. He used to sock me 10 times in the shoulder for every time I'd fart. He could fart any time he wanted, but if I farted, I'd have to take socks to the shoulder.
Starting point is 02:42:50 Wow, how rude. Jesus, man. Sounds like he was a bully. Weird fart games. Meanwhile, Eddie liked the punishment, so he's farting on purpose. Hit me. Hit me. Here we go go Fart battles
Starting point is 02:43:08 Brother and sister fart battles Any brothers or sisters Ben? Yeah I got three brothers I actually got a twin fraternal twin I didn't know that He doesn't do martial arts he's actually Extremely passive on a physical level But he was into like
Starting point is 02:43:24 Politics And what but he was into politics and whatnot. He was a, man, I forget what it is. House of Representatives out in Florida. So on a political and verbal level, he was always the guy that would sit there and run his mouth and I would get angry and emotional and punch him. Is he physically similar to you? Physically? I mean, he's tall too. I'm more more more built
Starting point is 02:43:50 But I definitely have my older brother. You know do karate and then try damn spinning back kicks on me and fucking random She hate you stand right there. No way fuck you dude dick. What an asshole. Yeah, that's why you can't leave boys alone We're chitting is man to each other then they cover up the crime. Oh, that's why you can't leave boys alone. Weird shit happens, man. Learn shit to each other. Then they cover up the crime. Oh, yeah. How did he get buried? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:44:10 He fucking died and shit. But it's amazing. Like, John Jones, right, grows up with two super athlete brothers. All three of them beat the fuck out of each other. Rhonda, three sisters, picked on her. Yeah. Yeah. There you go, man. Isn't that interesting sisters, picked on her. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 02:44:25 Isn't that interesting how that works like that? It's interesting. It's interesting. Like, Wideman, I don't think Wideman, I shouldn't talk on this because I don't know, but I know he had fights with his brother. Oh, yeah. I don't think they talk too much anymore. I bet the Noguera twins are totally tight.
Starting point is 02:44:40 They seem like they're like- Yeah, they seem different, right? They grew up competing. Yeah. They seem different. They don't seem like, But what do we know? They seem like they banged chicks together growing up. That's any fantasy.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Yeah, you wish, Blamey. I can see them now, kicking off their... It was a metaphor. In their geese. Fucking chimp. That's my guac. Are you big knock or little nog? You tell me girl
Starting point is 02:45:07 You're the same nog It's one of them nogs I don't know who it was I'm not sure So Ben you're on the Boston card Yeah That's a good card Yeah really good
Starting point is 02:45:20 It's a TJ Dillashaw fight with Not Hennon Burrell Cruz Dominic Cruz That's a fun.J. Dillashaw fight with Hennem, not Hennemborough. Cruz. Dominic Cruz. That's a fight. Damn. Big, big, big fight. Big fight.
Starting point is 02:45:29 Huge. Big fight. Just poor Dominic and his fucking injuries. I'm curious to see how, I hope Dominic makes it to the fight. I'm curious to see how that fight goes down. It's still January. That's a whole month of training. It's a long time.
Starting point is 02:45:40 That's a fucking crazy fight. Holy shit. Great, great, great fight. Those guys just fuck people up. That's all they do. T.J. needs a fight like that. It's going long time. That's a fucking crazy fight. Holy shit. Great fight. Those guys just fuck people up. TJ needs a fight like that. It's going to boost. Because, you know, beating Hennon Burrell, the U.S. really didn't know who he was. So like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 02:45:51 We know he's a big underdog. But Dominic Cruz, granted, he's been out of the limelight. He's a motherfucker, man. He is. And goddamn, how good did Dominic Cruz look in that Mitsugaki fight? I wish I hadn't seen him fighting forever after that. Like a demon. He beat the shit out of that guy. And TJ
Starting point is 02:46:07 looks sensational in the Barauri match. Look at that card, son. Oh, you got Anthony Pettis, Eddie Alvarez. Oh, shit! Brown Mitrione's a beast of a fight. Oh, shit! Boach Herman. Oh, my God. First fight of the main card so far. Cruikshank Felder. Possibly.
Starting point is 02:46:23 Detroit superstar. I love watching Detroit's Crookshank. Holy shit. Dude. Trinaldo Pearson. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:46:29 Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:46:30 Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.
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Starting point is 02:46:31 Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:46:31 Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:46:31 Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Man, this card. Trinaldo and Ross Pearson. Bro, this is a fight night? Yeah. God damn, dog. This is fun.
Starting point is 02:46:47 Fox Sports 1. Holy shit. Dude, Darius is on the undercard? Yep. First fight, man. And now is he fighting? Against Tysomoff. Tysomoff is a bad motherfucker, dude. Dude, this should be a pay-per-view card.
Starting point is 02:46:59 That's a great card, man. This is stacked. Look at Domino's. You're doing this one? Yeah, I'm doing this one. Is this Fox or Fox Sports 1? I think this is Fox Sports 1. You're doing this one? Yeah, I'm doing this one. Is this channel? Is this like the network? Is this Fox or Fox Sports 1? I think this is Fox Sports 1.
Starting point is 02:47:07 Is it? That's incredible. How is that even possible? Dude, how about- It's because they made it a world title fight, so decided to have a really strong undercard to back it. That feel like Cronshaw is a motherfucker. I wasn't supposed to do this fight.
Starting point is 02:47:21 This was like last minute. Not last minute, obviously, because it's not until January, but fairly last minute, they asked me to do this fight. This was like last minute. Not last minute, obviously, because it's not until January. But fairly last minute they asked me to do it. I wasn't scheduled to do it. So that means, that's why I can't, I'm not even going to be there for the weigh-ins. I won't get there until Saturday morning or Sunday morning. They're bringing the heavy
Starting point is 02:47:37 hits. It's on Sunday, too. Might be like after a football game or some shit. Dude, how about Dominic Cruz? 20-1, son. 20-1. Yeah. Who did he lose to? Dominic Cruz lost to Uriah.
Starting point is 02:47:50 Uriah. Guillotine. Uriah, that's right. Knowledge. Good call, son. WEC. Yep, WEC days. Yeah, and then he beat him
Starting point is 02:47:58 in the rematch. You? Rogan did. Oh, Rogan. Damn. WEC, son. That's a good fight. It's a great fight.
Starting point is 02:48:04 It's going to be interesting to see who's got better footwork and movement. I would assume TJ's the favorite, Jamie. Yes. Well, it's because he's been active, right? Yes, that's a huge factor. That's going to be a great fight. Damn, Don Rucuzo has long titties. I can't wait for Pettis and Alvarez.
Starting point is 02:48:19 I know, right? You guys coming to the show? Are you going to Vegas for McGregor? Conor McGregor? No. You're not? No. So you coming to the show? Are you going to Vegas for McGregor? Conor McGregor? No. You're not? No. So you coming to the show?
Starting point is 02:48:28 EBI's here? It's on Sunday, yeah. Yeah, I'll come for sure. You're going to be able to make it? Dude, you never invite me. You're going to come back and boom? You're not going to get in trouble with the wife or anything? I'll figure out a way to market my wife.
Starting point is 02:48:37 It's going to be nuts. That'll be fun, man. Denny, Javi, Cummings. Yeah, and you could also, if you're not going to be there, you could watch it on pay-per-view. Yeah, budovideos.com slash EBI5, Sunday, December 13th. If you can make it live, though, go live. It's so fun to see live.
Starting point is 02:48:54 Yeah, it's crazy. It's such an exciting format. It really changes grappling by adding that element of putting them in bad positions after it's over. It's so awesome. So far, people are digging it, man. So far, the first four shows have just gotten tremendous reviews. Everyone loves it.
Starting point is 02:49:11 It's kind of hard to have a bad show. I mean, it can happen, but when you have 16 black belts and it's a tournament and you see, it's like UFC 2. Yeah. It's kind of hard to fuck that up. Yeah. Man, it's hard. With Cummings in there
Starting point is 02:49:25 everyone's fucking worried about his leg locks and he's right there gonna fucking chainsaw his way to the finals probably you know but he's gotta get through
Starting point is 02:49:33 he's gotta get through Javi Hany and then you know there's Rafael Domingos he's a Damian Maya prodigy
Starting point is 02:49:41 Ruben Alvarez another leg lock he's an east coast leg lock he's from Florida East Coast leg lock guy. He's from Florida. Yeah, I know. He fucks people up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:49 Man, and then Kim Terra, Kyle Terra's brother's in it. Nathan Orchard. Fuck, man. It's going to be crazy. Sunday, December 13th, budovideos.com. budovideos.com slash EBI5. And the first four are available at YouTube. The live show shows obviously a
Starting point is 02:50:05 pay-per-view where we're we're giving out 20 uh last show eddie cummings won it and he got 20 000 and that was 145 a pound division that that usually doesn't happen at 145 so um uh all the money goes to the winner it's winner take all um so we have to do pay-per-view. And about a month later, a month and a half, two months later, I put it on YouTube and let everyone watch it. So VIP front row is available, reserved, and general admission. Like I said, if you're in town and you're free that day, you really should go and see it live. Especially if you're a fan of jiu-jitsu at all. You'll see the most exciting format of jiu-jitsu. Wild ass fucking fights.
Starting point is 02:50:46 And when these fights go to a draw, and then they put them in bad positions at the end, it gets fucking nuts. Yeah, it's nuts. It's so fun. It's such a great idea. Such a smart way. Just trying to make it fun.
Starting point is 02:50:57 Good for you. Just trying to make it fun. That's dope. Entertaining. We got big things planned. EBI 6 is going to be in Mexico City. That's going to be $50,000 grand prize. Absolute division.
Starting point is 02:51:10 Damn, son. Mexico City. Boom. Mexico. My man's going international. We're going to have a Rio trials. Rio, did you know, trials for that in February? And then Sao Paulo.
Starting point is 02:51:20 We're going to go to Rio, have trials. Sao Paulo, have trials. International, son. What? This is going to be, it's going to be to Rio, have trials. Sao Paulo, have trials. This is going to be nice. That's beautiful. One of the guys that's co-producing this from Televisa, which is a huge network in Latin America.
Starting point is 02:51:32 I like how you said that. Me too. Televisa. Ay, ay, ay. Tomas tus huevos. I got that Spanish accent down. Si. Si.
Starting point is 02:51:43 Hijo de la frenada. So that's it, folks. This fucking thing's over. Good fights. Real good fights. Next time we talk, it'll be post Aldo and McGregor and Weidman and Rockhold and Yoel Romero and Jacare and Max Holloway and Jeremy Stevens And Damian Maia and Gunnar Nelson. Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:52:08 Fucking googly boogly. Insane. All right, Ben Saunders MMA. Ben will be fighting on the January card on Fox Sports 1 against the lovely and talented Pat Cote. Brendan Schaub, you might know him as the fighter from the Fighter and the Kid podcast. Storming through the ranks of iTunes. Kicking ass all over the world for their live shows.
Starting point is 02:52:32 Be there. He'll sing Big Dick Bandits while looking deep into your eyes. Get your West Coast tour tickets now. TFK.com, son. Plenty of gear, including mugs. He's an official fighter in the kid. Mugs and t-shirts. Lots of different t-shirts that Chael Sonnen keeps jacking.
Starting point is 02:52:52 Keep jacking his shirts. He's devious. That's how you know you're doing something right. He's smart. On YouTube, EBI 5 Countdown Show. Watch that right now. Boom. That's it, folks.
Starting point is 02:53:02 See you soon. Much love. Bye-bye. Peace. I got money.

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