The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - October 21, 2017

Episode Date: October 21, 2017

Joe sits down with Eddie Bravo & Brendan Schaub to watch the fights on October 21, 2017. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Boom and we're live fight companion Eddie motherfucking Bravo yo yo yo Brandon motherfucking shop we're here fight companion Darren Till versus Donald Cowboy Cerrone is the main event. And EBI tomorrow. Eddie Bravo, Invitational Jiu-Jitsu Tournament. Where is that? It's tomorrow. Is it at the Orpheum again? At the Orpheum, downtown LA.
Starting point is 00:00:36 You can get tickets at ebiofficial.com. You can watch it on UFC Fight Pass. And you also have a choice now to watch it on pay-per-view at inchbyinch.tv. That's cool. That's a great venue, too, man. That's a good move. So if you don't have Fight Pass, you can still get itbyinch.tv. That's cool. That's a great venue, too, man. That's a good move. So if you don't have Fight Pass, you can still get it. Yep, yep. That's my company.
Starting point is 00:00:49 But if you don't have Fight Pass, you should get Fight Pass. Fight Pass is the shit. And we're watching this fight on Fight Pass right now. And I'm not just saying Fight Pass is the shit because I'm a UFC employee. If you're a fan of the sport, there's fucking everything on Fight Pass. You will go down a goddamn rabbit hole. Pride fights. Everything. Strike force. You will go down a goddamn rabbit hole. Pride fights. Everything.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Strike force. Everything. You can watch so many fights. And there's also a bunch of organizations that you never heard of before that have awesome fights on it. Titan. Just the fact that you can watch any UFC fight ever. Just that alone is worth it.
Starting point is 00:01:21 It's an amazing library. Just that alone. Just boom. You can just remember that fight. Boom. You can watch it. Remember that fight. Boom. You can watch it. On demand an amazing library. Just that alone. Just boom. You could just remember that fight. Boom. You could watch it. Remember that fight. Boom.
Starting point is 00:01:26 You could watch it. On demand, son. And the pride fights. Yeah. Pride fights. That's what I like. That alone, it doesn't even need anything else. We should do some fight companions for old pride fights.
Starting point is 00:01:36 The best fights of all time. Go back to like Crow Cop versus Fedor. Vanderlei. Nog versus Fedor. Vanderlei. Vanderlei. Yes. Fuck yes.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Bob Sapp. Noguera. You know, come on, son. My question is, how long after UFC do they put the individual fights on Fight Pass? That's a good question. Anybody know? You're saying until they upload them? Yeah. There's a lot of people on this.
Starting point is 00:01:56 How long before we can see this fight on Fight Pass? Well, this better be a classic, son. This is on Fight Pass right now. No, no, I mean archived. Oh, it'll be archived right afterwards. You think so? How long does it take? Yeah, 100%. It's right afterwards.. This is on Fight Pass right now. No, no, I mean archived. Oh, it'll be archived right afterwards. You think so? How long does it take? 100%.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It's right afterwards. Just uploads right away? I don't think so. Because I've tried to check fights out that just happened and they weren't up. Maybe they were Fox fights. If it's FX or Fox Sports 1 or Fox Sports 2, they own those. True. Or Fox.
Starting point is 00:02:20 What? They own those. Yeah. They can't put those on Fight Pass? I don't know, but I don't think so. No way can Fox own it. Yeah, I think they do. That's part of the deal, son.
Starting point is 00:02:29 You don't pay all that money. They pay fuckloads of money. They don't want to pay fuckloads of money so you can just not have Fox and just watch it on Fight Pass. I mean, they should own it. I mean, they're paying for it. Yeah, but what are they doing with it? They ain't doing shit. They replay them all the time.
Starting point is 00:02:41 They replay. FS1. Last night was Cain Velasquez versus Bigfoot. And I watched that. Damn, they're starting to replay them on Fox. I do not. They've been doing it. I have it on my DVR.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Watch TV. So I watch TV. Not because I'm cool or I'm a hipster. Only because I'm too lazy to turn on the TV. I have UFC Fight Night on the DVR automatically set to record and it always is recording old fights. Always. Constantly. So anything that's been on fight
Starting point is 00:03:11 on FS1 or any Fox venue. Bro, I have FS1, Fox, Spike, Bellator. I have fucking AXS TV fights on that bitch. Boxing. Yeah, I love AXS TV. I love Lion Fight. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Lion Fight. They got some fucking amazing Muay Thai. I have some PBC boxing on there and shit. I have everything. So these dudes who are fighting right now, Pichotta and Wilson. Pichotta. I'm assuming Pichotta's the guy in the red and, yeah, the little thing on the bottom. That Wilson dude has a sick left kick, man.
Starting point is 00:03:45 He's throwing some nasty, hard left kicks to the body. But I don't know these dudes. I heard there were some good fights on the prelims. Artem Lobov, I heard, was good. Do you know who won that, Jamie? Do you guys know? No. Who did he fight?
Starting point is 00:03:56 I don't know, but he got head kicked. Artem did? Yeah. He lost? I'm not sure, but Conor was there, and he was trying to corner him, and the ref had to stop the fight. Andre Feely. Damn. Why did the ref had to stop the fight. Andre Feely. Damn.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Why did the ref have to stop the fight? Because Conor was an official corner man and was yelling out instructions, and the ref was like, hold up. You got to chill, man. Be professional. And Conor was like, my bad. My bad. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:16 You can't yell out from your outside of the cage? Well, he was cage side, and he walked up to the cage and was yelling instructions. Oh, I see. So homeboy was like, yo, you're not an official corner man. You only get three, not four, unless it's a title fight. So he was too close. Yeah, it was a distraction. He was like, you got to chill, man.
Starting point is 00:04:32 That's a good rule. That really is a good rule. That's a great rule. Yeah, you can't have crowds of dudes that are your friends yelling, calling you a faggot. There you go. Yeah, look at him. Look at his, I mean, he just shows up everywhere with cufflinks and a beautiful suit.
Starting point is 00:04:48 He's just walking around like he owns the place. Well, because he does. Well, because he does. He puts his hands at me. So it's Mark Goddard, too. Mark Goddard's a motherfucker. He is a motherfucker. He's not taking any bullshit.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Oh, this dude's got the choke. Standing rear naked. So I watched Bellator last night. Right. What is that dude, that Gracie dude? Hall's son? Hall's son? Do you know who he is?
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yes, I interviewed him. Neiman Gracie. Yes, yes. Bad motherfucker. Bad motherfucker. Some serious jujitsu. Choke some dudes out. How about that neck break?
Starting point is 00:05:17 7-0. Yeah, 7-0. Seven submissions. He's a bad motherfucker. Six submissions. Neiman Gracie. And who's his father? Halls.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Halls. How do you say it? Halls. The Halls that died in a hang glider accident? Yeah, that guy. Dude, you should have seen this neck crank, Eddie. Dude. I thought he was going to break this motherfucker's neck.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah. That dude looked every bit of 44, but I guess he's only 32 and has gray hair. The guy he fought? Yeah, he looks like Luke Thomas, but with gray hair. Yeah. Not young, son. Well, he had gray hair, but if you take away the gray hair, he didn't look old at all like Luke Thomas, but with gray hair. Yeah. Not young, son. Well, he had gray hair, but if you take away the gray hair, he didn't look old at all. I can't take away gray hair.
Starting point is 00:05:48 But he's ripped and looked good. For sure. Good defense, too, man. He had him on his back the whole first round, and it fought him off. But then Neiman switched it to a neck crank. It looked like it hurt so bad. Are you going to sink? Have we sinked this?
Starting point is 00:06:02 Oh, yeah. There it is right there. No, that's not it That was his fight at Mass Square Garden He won that one Choked one boy out Last night he had the dude's neck sideways It looked like it hurt so bad
Starting point is 00:06:12 Musashi didn't look great, bro So to sync this up We're at 25 seconds of the first round 23, 22, 21 And Pichota I don't know how to say his name Is on the back of Wilson. He's getting worked.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Oh, shit. He's got the choke. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. It's over. Game over. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I said wrap. No, no, no. Not much time. Not much time. I think he can hang on. Chin's tucked. Oh, it's under the chin. Oh, powerful.
Starting point is 00:06:38 He's going to hang on. He's out. He's good. Damn. That's the bell. But last night in Bellator, Musashi looked lethargic, man. I had to take off. I had to go to the comic store.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I missed that. You didn't see it? I missed that. He definitely won the first round, but then Shomenko? Yeah. It's a tough one. No. What is his name?
Starting point is 00:06:53 What's his name? Shomenko, right? Shomenko? Shomenko. Shomenko. Yeah, Shomenko. He hit him with an overhand left and closed up his right eye like his whole right eye couldn't fucking see.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And then the second, I thought Shomenko won the second round and the third, but they gave it to Musashi. Really? Musashi did not look like a world beater. No shit. No. Interesting. Maybe the UFC got rid of him just in time. It's too bad because against Chris Weidman, he looked like a bad motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:07:19 See, I don't think it's that, Joe. I don't think Bellator gets enough respect. Their guys are fucking tough at the top level. That's true. Shomenko hasn't lost a fight in how long he has spent for steroids but he's won like six in a row he's a motherfucker he is a motherfucker did you see when he knocked out melvin yeah like those look at that look at that eye boom bellator is going to be a tough going for everybody i think that's true i think that's true and that that also highlights how fucking
Starting point is 00:07:41 good rory mcdonald actually actually is. Look at Larkin. Not doing well. Yeah, well, Lorenz got KO'd by Paul Daly. Yes. You know, when you stand in front of Paul Daly, Paul Daly throws fucking bombs. That left hand is just a ridiculous weapon. Well, look at Ben Henderson. He's struggling.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Ben Henderson was on the downside. Struggle City. He was on the downside when he went there, though. True, but there's Struggle City. Yeah. That's just rough. He fucked up by trying to go 170. Oh. That was not a good one.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And the guy fought a nightmare. Phil Davis did well, but, you know, Ryan Bader beat him. You know, Ryan Bader, who was probably never going to be the champ in the UFC light heavyweight division. Now you never know. Now you never know. John Jones, though. But with John Jones in, he was really not. It wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:08:24 That's everyone, though. Right. Ain't nobody getting that title if John was there It wasn't good. That's everyone, though. Right. Ain't nobody getting that title if Jon was there. You know, you got to wonder, man. You got to wonder what the fuck actually happened when it came to this steroid stuff. As I talked to Nowitzki, a lot of these websites were posting that if Jon Jones could provide a supplement that had that stuff in it, he wouldn't get a suspension. It is possible that he wouldn't get a suspension. Nowitzki said, they just totally took me out of context.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And that's not what I said at all. Yeah, I listened to his interview. Yeah, what he was actually saying is it is possible to have tainted supplements. And people have proven it in the past that there's something in a supplement. And if you can prove that you took it completely accidentally, which guys have. You know who did that is Tim uh tim means yeah the dirty bird but he got suspended for a few months even even though but a few months for john would be a win yeah that wouldn't be shit but with it but with his history it's tough to believe it's just well i want to believe i want to believe too so bad i want back so bad and i think the ufc needs them so so they need them so bad, and I think the UFC needs him so, so bad. Oh, they need him so bad right now. What are you excited for these days?
Starting point is 00:09:26 See, go ahead. Go ahead, Eddie. I finally saw that documentary, Icarus. Oh, it's fucking amazing. Holy shit, right? Fucking amazing, right? It's the Russian dopey? Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:35 If you didn't know anything about that movie, and let's say Alex Jones said, the Russians, they're sneaking in the laboratories. They're sneaking in the laboratories in the middle of the night. In the middle of the night, they're switching the urine, the A's and the B's. I'm telling you, I know this. I have inside sources. You'd be like, how could they do that?
Starting point is 00:09:52 It's impossible. Yes. I'd believe that. Dude, that would be the end of Alex Jones right there. No. You went too far. Enough. You went too far.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Sandy Hook shit. Well, maybe. But this is enough. The Russians. It sounds so crazy that they were like breaking into the offices, switching the pisses. Well, they did it in Russia, though. It was in Sochi. They won 13 gold medals.
Starting point is 00:10:13 They had a record number of gold medals. Everyone was dirty. The dude said everyone was dirty. That guy's in serious hiding right now. Hell yeah, he is. He's like fucking, they got him tucked away. And Homeboy was worried about him, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was saying he's had fucking, they got him tucked away. And homeboy was worried about him, right? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah. He was saying he's that he's had like a depression before and then now he tried to commit suicide before. When that scandal first broke out in Russia,
Starting point is 00:10:32 when he was freaking out, he was in Russia and he was on the phone going, dude, they're going to kill me because I need to get, I need to point a ticket out of here. I was shocked that he was
Starting point is 00:10:40 able to leave the country. Yeah. Wouldn't you think that they were like, they would have someone on his ass? Well, Brian Fogle, who's the director of it, was on my podcast and he explained to me how they didn't think that he was a flight risk
Starting point is 00:10:52 because he was such the mastermind of the program. They never thought that he was going to take off. There's a bunch of reasons why he cited on the podcast that I can't totally recall why they didn't think that he was going to take off, but obviously they fucked that one up. Super fucked up. He was all, see ya.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Well, you know what's crazy, dude? How WADA, the World Anti-Doping Agency, and the International Olympic Committee are all in bed together. They're not policing each other. WADA's not policing the IOC. It's bullshit. That's why they let the Russians in. Even though they knew the Russians cheated in Sochi, they had irrefutable proof that
Starting point is 00:11:24 they cheated. All the stuff that you see in that Netflix, they had irrefutable proof that they cheated. Like all the stuff that you see in that Netflix documentary Icarus is 100% true. They still let them compete in Rio. All they did is they threw them a bone. They said, yeah, we're going to take out the track and field team. This track and field team has to go. So they took the track and field team out. They left wrestling, gymnastics, all these other dirty, dirty, dirty athletes.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Russia probably said, hey, listen, all these other dirty, dirty, dirty athletes. Russia probably would say, hey, listen, guys, if you guys have my back, we're going to go after you because everybody's doing it. Everybody's doing it. Who else is doing it? China's 100% doing it. They've already been busted a little bit, though.
Starting point is 00:11:57 You don't think the American Olympians are on steroids? How dare you? 100%. 100%. All of them? It's impossible to be. Like Russia?
Starting point is 00:12:08 No, not like Russia because it's not state-sponsored, but if you don't think a lot of them are on it. The amount of money that you can make. Brian was explaining this. Think about someone like Phelps, right? Michael Phelps, because he won. Because he won the gold medal. How many gold medals do you want?
Starting point is 00:12:21 A shitload, right? Most ever. That guy is a huge celebrity. He's wealthy. Whose phone is that? That's the Russian hack on Eddie's phone. That's Brennan's. The Russians.
Starting point is 00:12:33 The Russians got Eddie. So because of that, because of that, that guy makes fucking millions of dollars a year. But now go to the silver medalist. Who's that guy? Who fucks that guy? Ryan Lockey. But who is he? No one knows. Who's that guy? Who the fuck's that guy? Ryan Lockey. But who is he? No one knows.
Starting point is 00:12:46 He's a liar with blue hair. If you remember him. Oh, that's right. That's the guy that got busted in Rio pretending that they were robbing him. And he had white jeans on? Yeah, he was like, the police had me at gunpoint. You broke a bathroom door, you piece of shit. Yeah, he was like, they had me at gunpoint.
Starting point is 00:13:02 They told me to get on the floor. And I said, fucking make me. Remember? And then they was like, they had me at gunpoint and told me to get on the floor and I said, fucking make me. Remember? And then they're like, bro, you have white jeans on. If you got on the ground, why aren't they dirty at all?
Starting point is 00:13:10 He's like, I don't know. Clean ground. You know, Brazil is known for its clean floors. Now he's just the like, fucking biggest laughingstock
Starting point is 00:13:19 of all time. He's just a big old liar, man. Is it possible to win the 100 meters without being on juice? You know, that guy, Victor Conte from the Balco scandal, that guy that hooked up Barry Bonds and all those people with the indetectable stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:33 The ultimate snitch of all time. Yeah, the ultimate snitch. Because he got out of jail and then immediately started snitching away. Snitch, snitch. He says the entire track and field sport is a dirty sport. He said all of them. He's like, think about Jamaica. Jamaica wins all these gold medals.
Starting point is 00:13:50 He's like, what's going on? Why are they winning all these gold medals? Like, what's happening? He said, I'll tell you what's happening. They have a very sophisticated drug program. Jamaica? Yes. Like, they're not known for being, they've never been known for being sprinters.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Like, that's not their thing. It's kind of new that that's their thing. And they're the known for being, they've never been known for being sprinters. Like, that's not their thing. It's kind of new that that's their thing. And they're the best ever at it. Do we just think it's the fucking plantation? Like, what do you think it is? The bananas? What the fuck do you think they're eating? One of the things that Fogle pointed out is, like, we remember when Ben Johnson got tested positive when he fought, when he actually raced against Carl Lewis.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Remember that? He was the big deal. He was super jacked. Jacked. Gold chain. Apparently Carl Lewis tested positive too. Yeah, they're all doing it. They all were tested positive.
Starting point is 00:14:31 It's just that Ben Johnson's levels were so off the fucking charts. They were like, Jesus, but that was the first year they were testing. It's like pride days, man. It's like pride days. Yeah, like pride days. And that makes you think, I hate to say this, but it really makes you think about Fedor. There's Ben Johnson. Back in the day, son.
Starting point is 00:14:49 That's a good picture, but get a picture of him mid-sprint, Jamie. You can see how fucking jackamified he was. He was so fucking fast. Look at that. He looks like an NFL running back. He's so big. He was so big for a track and field game. Carl Lewis looks like he has AIDS back there.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Look at how jacked Ben Johnson is. He looks like Melvin Manhoef. That's what he looks like. Like that kind of build. Like Adrian Peterson. He's crushing those guys. These guys are all, but they're all on something. Every one of them is on something.
Starting point is 00:15:17 How come no white guy has got to hold some good shit? Go to that one. Go to that one, the one above. Jesus Christ. Or Brock Yeah The one I'm saying In the fucking
Starting point is 00:15:27 In the 100 meter dash Oh yeah White guys It's not our thing Fuck it It's not our thing Even if we get juice To the gills
Starting point is 00:15:33 It's not our thing That's I don't Where's the White stuff Yeah it's not We're not White guys aren't
Starting point is 00:15:42 Willing to go that deep We're just I don't know what it is We gotta go full Bane I wonder I wonder what it is Look at his eyes first of all What the fuck was he taking
Starting point is 00:15:50 Where his eyes turned yellow Well that's what they had said That his liver was struggling To deal with all the steroids In his system And it was making The whites of his eyes yellow Damn he'd still beat the record
Starting point is 00:15:59 With that Timex watch on That's some powerful shit Who has Look at that shit Why is it Did Timex slow you? That's some powerful shit. Who has, look at that shit. Why, is it the Timex slow you down? The heavy ass basic watch?
Starting point is 00:16:10 That's a light ass watch. Who spreads in that though? But that wouldn't really hold you back. You're talking aerodynamics, my man. Not a bad point. And the gold chain? The fucking Rick Ross gold chain? The gold chain's a big one.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Dude, he went, I'm so juiced up. His coaches try to have an intervention, say, dude, it's the Olympics, bro. Can you ditch the chain?
Starting point is 00:16:28 No, bitches like gold. I know bitches, and I know gold. They probably had arguments over it. The powerful G-Shock watch in the Olympics? Are you shitting me, sir? G-Shock? Look at that fucking thing. He does have yellow eyes, man.
Starting point is 00:16:43 He looks like a leopard. Like he's ready to leap on you And no one said anything Like, bro, your eyes and that watch Are a complete giveaway, my man What's going on with your eyes? Is he winning, though? He's gotta be
Starting point is 00:16:53 He's the fastest of all time For a second Who's that guy? Ben Johnson Oh, that's Ben Johnson? Yeah For a while Didn't Usain Bolt beat him?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Maybe, yeah Is that Ben Johnson there? Jacked! No, Usain Bolt was another time So who are the fastest guys of all time? Usain Bolt beat him? Maybe, yeah. Is that Ben Johnson there? Jacked! No, Usain Bolt was another time. So who are the fastest guys of all time? Usain Bolt's number one. Carl Lewis, Bolt. Is he number one ever?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yeah, Usain Bolt has the fastest time of all time. And then Ben Johnson, Bolt, Carl Lewis. How many sprinters can you name? Well, Usain Bolt. Marion Jones from females. But again, she snitched on herself You ever seen a snitch on yourself? Why'd she snitch on herself?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Cause I think there was some rumors And she was like I can't handle this anymore I was juiced to the gills I got a dick Oh man All time fastest Look at this
Starting point is 00:17:37 Usain Bolt Usain Bolt Usain Bolt Tyson Gay Oh Justin Gatlin Tyson Gay I know those That's a rough name
Starting point is 00:17:43 It's a rough name Tyson Gay There ain't a white guylin, Tyson Gay. I know those two. That's a rough name. It's a rough name, Tyson Gay. There ain't a white guy in fucking... No, not anywhere on that list. It looks like a cunt in there. Wow, look how far down you got to go to get to somebody you know. Usain Bolt, number 34. Like, Maurice Green.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Like, when do you get down to Ben Johnson? Do they have him on there or do they take it off? Yeah, they took him off. Ooh, Christian Coleman. I bet that's a white fella. They shouldn't take him off. I mean, if you want to punish him, punish him, but you can't take it off? Yeah, they took him off. Christian Coleman, I bet that's the one. They shouldn't take him off. I mean, if you want to punish him, punish him, but you can't take him off. It's like what they did with the Tour de France.
Starting point is 00:18:12 They took all the ones that Lance Armstrong won. They removed him as the winner. He won like eight times, but everybody was dirty. They had to go down to 15th place to find a guy. I think it was 18th.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Was it 18th? I think it was 18th place. Well, how about in the MLB? Find a guy who didn't test positive. I know. How about Major League Baseball? Like, no, Barry Bonds can't be in the Hall of Fame because you got tested positive. So stupid.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Who the fuck do you think was throwing the pitches? They're juiced to the gills too, you fucks. And what happens with Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire? Well, have you seen Sammy Sosa? That's how that works out. Triangle. Oh, that's a good one, too. Great angle.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Oh, he locked that up nice. Professional triangle right there. He knew exactly what he was doing. Yeah, that's pretty deep. It took a while to cinch it in, but he was relentless with it. Oh, he's got that. Oh, his arm, too.
Starting point is 00:18:58 It's a wrap. Oh, no, he's out. Oh, there it is. He liked it. Oh, the round's over? No way. Tight move. Is that the end of the round? I think that's why he went for that arm bar. Oh, there it is. He liked it. Oh, the round's over? No way. Tight move. Is that the end of the round?
Starting point is 00:19:05 I think that's why he went for that armbar. Wait, did he tap? That armbar really wasn't in, was it? I don't know. No, it didn't seem like the armbar. The ring, the stool. Damn. That was a good ending.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Oh, so it was the end of the round? Yeah. Oh, okay. So we got one more round. But if you want to see what happens when you don't make the Hall of Fame, look at, have you seen Sammy Sosa lately? Why is the referee checking his eyes? Oh, he took some punches when he was down.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah, I've seen Sammy Sosa lately. Something went crazy, he became a white guy. Crazy? Yeah, he just went from the back to a triangle, dude. That's totally pro. This guy's really good. Oh, dude, he fucked him up with that right hand. This guy's good.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Dude, Sammy Sosa's a different human being. I need to acknowledge this. What did he do? Look at his skin. He looks like Michael Jackson. Yeah, what happened? What the fuck? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Did he talk about it? Has he talked about Jamie? It looks like he just went, fuck it, I want to be white. Dude, go to the one in the pink hat. Go to the pink hat, sir. Okay, that's real. He used to be the greatest baseball player of all time for a second. That's what happens when you don't like guys in the Hall of Fame. Well, he might have fuck was he gay body up with all the steroids Is he open? Is he gay? Are you saying he's gay?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Is that what you say open? That's what happened when you don't like gays in the Hall of Fame I definitely didn't say that. I don't think he's gay. I think Simon Sosa still lays pipe I even though he's white now. We both heard gay. No fuck no. He just said is he gay? I heard you said gay. No way! You said gay. No though he's white now. We both heard gay. No, fuck no. He just said, is he gay? No, no, no, no. I heard you said gay. No way. You said gay. You said gay.
Starting point is 00:20:28 No, I did not say gay. You said gay, brother. Let's just be real clear. None of us have a problem with gay people. I love gay people. Hell no. I love gay people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I'm 10% gay. So if he's wearing a pink hat because he's gay, I'm cool with it. I don't pink shoes. I don't give a fuck. What's cooler than a guy sucking a dick? Look at this though yeah what happened so what does he say happened to him like because it's weird yeah he just okay that's a white guy yeah it's crazy and he was super dark he was dark black yeah maybe that was a tan. Maybe he got into tanning. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:07 No. Everything's changed. You know what? Look at him. Handsome. There is cream that some women do use to lighten their skin. This fight is over. What happened?
Starting point is 00:21:18 He admits he bleaches his skin. Oh, he admitted he bleaches his skin. What? Oh, wow. That's weird. I wonder why he wants to do that. Dude, that's really popular. That's the second Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:21:29 No, no, no, because Michael Jackson had what I have. He had vitiligo. He has a condition, yeah. But he did bleach his skin, though. He did bleach his skin. He did bleach his skin. To even out skin tone. To even it out, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 But that's not what Sammy Sosa's doing. Sammy Sosa just decided to be all white now. He wants to be white. Yeah. People have done that before, man. Maybe Michael Jackson just wanted to be white, but he used that as an excuse. No, he legit had like a skin thing and it started to spread. And he's like, fuck, I don't want to look like this.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And just went full spectrum. Have you seen some models who have it? They're gorgeous. Yeah. And they just rock it. That black chick. I think it's sexy as fuck. Yeah, Winnie Harlow.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah, I call them the zebra models. They're sexy as fuck. They got like a cool look. Can we see them, Jamie? Yeah. Well, it's only- Zebra models? No, there's a few. Winnie Harlow look. Can we see them, Jamie? Well, it's only- Zebra models? No, there's a few.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Winnie Harlow. Why call them zebra models? I don't know what they are. Here's the triangle, right? But this is not the end of the fight. How did this fight end? Maybe he gave up in the corner. I think that was the last round.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah. Yeah. I think that was the third round. Yeah, I went to decision. Homeboy won. We're doing the worst job of paying attention to this fight. Dan Hardy with a beautiful green jacket. Powerful Joker colors.
Starting point is 00:22:30 So Sammy Sosa just decided to be white. Just fuck it. Say enough of this. Now can a white guy go black? No. I mean you can be a tanner. That's Jersey Shore. Tate gets.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Tate did a movie in Yeah, but he looks Indian. Tate did a movie in Tahiti. Well, you don't get black features. Well, no, but you don't get black skin. You get tan. You get super dark. Tate got so fucking dark, man. No, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I'm talking about going straight blackface. Black, black, black. Can you go blackface? No, that was Maurice Povich. Maurice Povich? What's his name? Maurice? Maurice Povich. Maurice? That's not's his name? Maurice? Maurice Povich.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Maurice? That's not like, if Maury went black, he'd be Maurice. Exactly. No, in Maurice Povich, there was a girl, some white girl who wants to be black. Oh, yeah? Have you seen this? Oh, the Catch Me Outside girl? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:20 She's like, really wants to be black. It's a white woman who, and the audience is all black, and they fucking can't stand her, and they're just burying her. Oh, is that the homegirl who got fired from her job? Look at this, what Sammy Sosa says. What happened was that I had been using the cream for a long time, and that combined with the bright TV lights made my face look whiter than it really is. I don't think I look like Michael Jackson, he added.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Apparently, Sosa has kept up his use of the cream over the years, which has led him to appear even whiter than he did in 2009. So he's been just getting whiter and whiter and whiter. Okay, go higher there. It's a bleaching cream that I apply before going to bed and whitens my skin tone, Sosa said during an appearance at Univision's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's a cream that I have that I use to soften my skin, but it has bleached me some. I'm not a racist.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I live my life happily. What? Bleached me some? Sir, you are completely a white man now. Bleached me some? I'm not a racist. Maybe there was a super racist white chick that he was trying to fuck and he's like, there's only one way. I gotta become white.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You never go full white unless she was just bad she just was like like the hodge Tennessee racist but with big old titties big plump pink titties and
Starting point is 00:24:35 now he's just fucked tiny little waist and just bubble butt he says it like it's no like it's I just put on a bleaching cream I don't I just put on a bleaching cream
Starting point is 00:24:43 it's no big deal I put a little bit on before I go to sleep at night. It's a little bleaching cream. What's the big deal? He's like, I don't see what the problem is. Meanwhile, he said he's even lighter than he was in 2009. I mean, he's talking about something that happened eight years ago. He's lighter than that now.
Starting point is 00:24:57 He's also a little mentally unstable because he also has white man hair now. He's like the straight white. Look at Tate. Look how goddamn dark Tate got. Jesus Christ. Tate's a savage. Look at the mendoirs too. Yeah. I mean, he's tan, but you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:25:14 confuse him for being black. Well, you would if he had black features and black hair. No. For sure. If he had an afro, you would say that's a light-skinned black guy. You think? Fuck yeah. 100%. Look how dark he is. Go back to that picture again Look at that He has dark as fuck
Starting point is 00:25:29 If we get Photoshop Steve to put a I mean if you change it A jerry curl on him He's probably already on it Yeah he's probably already on it We'll probably all be black by the end of this My favorite meme online is that One black dude is going like this.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Oh, yeah. Throwing that. If you never get in there. If you think about it. If you think about it. It looks like the Reading Rainbow guy. I don't know who that guy is. Derek Brunson.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Machida. Machida's back. Yeah, against Derek Brunson. He's been out for a minute. A hot minute. Yeah, that guy. You can't get Chido if you don't get into a relationship
Starting point is 00:26:05 he looks like Ben Johnson a little bit there's an animated gif of him doing it too it's even better an animated one yeah I haven't seen that one
Starting point is 00:26:16 yeah that's a part of an animated gif I like the clown under the in the sewer that shit is hilarious he could use that for so long
Starting point is 00:26:23 there he is that's the animated one Who is This is just some Dude I don't know It's amazing It's hilarious
Starting point is 00:26:28 I think he's a rapper Do you know Probably He's like I think he's a Jamaican rapper Did you know that they have Meme cards now And people
Starting point is 00:26:36 Like they have like Games they play With meme cards Really And he's one of the meme cards And there's always the one There's the one where I forget who it is Some Another rapper Where he's one of the meme cards and there's always the one there's the one where I forget
Starting point is 00:26:45 who it is. Another rapper where he's standing like this like what? Like that picture. That sounds awesome. And then there was the black lady with the hump for a neck and she's like what? You know that one? Yes. You need to tell. What? Hey have you seen the one of the kid
Starting point is 00:27:01 he's like in school and he's like this and there's a game? And it's like vegans when they haven't talked about being a vegan for a minute, yeah, yeah, that's hilarious Yeah, see the meme the game see look at this it's a fucking game you play this game like and they I don't know how it Works, but you deal these things out like these popular memes It's hilarious. I wonder if that guy gets laid for that meme. Probably not. Damian Maia versus Colby Covington.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Ooh, that's an interesting fight. Good fight. That's an interesting fight. You know what, man? I just wish Damian Maia was younger. Because without this sauce, without this special sauce, he's like 40 years old now. Yeah, but even when he was young, he was a beast. Oh, he's a beast.
Starting point is 00:27:45 He's still a beast. Remember he went on that whole kind of tear and then fought Anderson, terrible fight, back down, cut to 70, now he's a beast again. He's still a beast. He's 100% a beast. You wish he was young, why? Because I love the idea of a specialist. I'm always fascinated by a specialist, by a guy who just does one thing better than
Starting point is 00:28:02 everybody else. Can he do it to somebody? Like Ben Askren. The fight I would do is Ben Askren, Damian Meyer. I wish Ben didn't retire. Because I want that fight. Ben's never going to get in the UFC. He talked way too much shit about Dana White.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Are those days still there? I feel like Dana White doesn't give a fuck anymore. When you have that much money, you're like, what? Ben Askren? Yeah, let him in. I don't give a fuck. I don't know, man. Why have him in? And then what if he talks more shit about you? We need ratings. Why not? Ben Askren? Yeah, let him in. I don't give a fuck. I don't know, man. Why have him in? And then what if he talks more shit about you? We need ratings. Why not? Ben Askren doesn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:28:30 He's retiring, right? Yeah. It's a bummer. Undefeated. Retiring undefeated. But it's interesting because the only one who gave him any problems, really, was Jay Heron. Jay Heron got him to a split decision. A long time ago, though. Yeah, but it doesn't
Starting point is 00:28:46 matter. It was like a wrestler who could strike. A guy who was good enough to keep you away. You know, good enough wrestling to keep it from being a wrestling match, and he could strike. But Ben evolved from there, because Ben, with Woodley, with all these other guys, like, he evolved his game. So he talked to people, and they're like, dude,
Starting point is 00:29:02 he can handle the striking. There was one guy that gave him some trouble. Some Russian Dagestan type wrestler guy who claimed, it was on 1FC. He was calling Ben out saying, I can out-wrestle you.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I'm going to take you down. Really? And he did and he was on him for a while but Ben still beat him. He got him an arm trauma. It's such a shame he never got in the UFC, man.
Starting point is 00:29:19 It's a fucking shame. Huge tragedy. Except for that guy, everybody that he gets his mitts on, as soon as Ben like holds you or grabs you, his clinch is so high level that you just can't break free of his clinch. You know what's a bummer is one of the reasons, obviously you talk shit to Dana,
Starting point is 00:29:35 but that style for a lot of people isn't going to sell pay-per-views or get ratings because of that wrestling holding people down. He's getting good at submitting guys now, too. But the UFC doesn't care. But hold on. He's getting good at submitting guys now, too. But the UFC doesn't care. But hold on. Here's the problem with that logic. Floyd Mayweather's style of boxing is not fan-friendly either.
Starting point is 00:29:57 But Floyd, major superstar before that, he did knock people out, became the guy you'd either pay to watch him lose or win. Huge draw. Ben Askren, not a big draw. Stop right there. You're introducing him to people. He was not a huge draw before he started talking shit to people. He wasn't a huge draw until he became Money Mayweather. When he became the bad guy, that's when he became a huge draw.
Starting point is 00:30:11 He became a bad guy, but also fought Oscar De La Hoya, all these superstars. Ben Askren's not coming to the UFC and going, here's Conor McGregor, some superstar. Right. The UFC's not going to do that. He doesn't have the style either. But if he did, that would be very, interesting you know that's a huge if yeah but but what i'm saying is that's the only way that this guy could become famous is by shit talking the shit talking is what's going to make him famous like people wanting to see him lose that's what makes a guy like that famous because
Starting point is 00:30:39 his style is very appealing to guys like us they're like i want to see if he can do this you know what it takes a while to evolve and be a good finisher. And at first, for a while, they were just taking people down and just owning them and controlling them. But he's good at submitting people now. Hell yeah. He's a great grappler. Overall, he's great at everything.
Starting point is 00:30:57 So now, the Ben Askren we have now, you can't compare him to the Ben Askren from five years ago. That's gone. That's gone. There's a Ben Askren that's going to you can't compare him to the Ben Askren from five years ago. That's gone. That's gone. There's a Ben Askren that's going to take you down and choke you out now. Eddie, that's gone. That's a whole different.
Starting point is 00:31:11 That's gone. He's retired. Money will bring him back. Nobody's really retired. One FC allowed him to use knees to the head on the ground. What'd you say? One FC allowed him to use knees to the head on the ground, right? That's a good point, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's a big weapon. And kicks. You see what Brandon Vera did over there? Yeah. Kicking dudes in the face. Kicking them in the back of the head when the ground, right? That's a good point, yeah. That's a big weapon. And kicks. You see what Brandon Vera did over there? Yeah. Kicking dudes in the face. Kick them in the back of the head and they're down. Yeah. That's like, it's rough.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Not really shit. He's their heavyweight champion. Yeah. You think he's on the juice? They took off, they took out the soccer kicks though. Yeah. One I've seen. Well, did you see homeboy Roger Huerta get soccer kicked?
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yes. That was rough. Rough. That's why he can't have soccer kicks. He was fighting a Brazilian who was a big fella who was cutting to make 170, and Roger's not really a 170. He was 155 in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Decided to fight 170, and he was getting beat up, and then he went down, and this dude's soccer kicked him into the next fucking dimension. You can't have that and be a professional sport. It's just too brutal. It's too brutal. I don't know, man. I mean, he he didn't got back on track. Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:32:11 Mean it was a brutal brutal knockout. They're tough to watch That one was particularly you see when crow cop kick Ron Waterman. Mm-hmm. I mean, it's fucking it is hard to watch But why is it harder to watch than a regular head kick? That's my question It is hard to watch, but why is it harder to watch than a regular head kick? That's my question. Is it because of the regular head kick you kind of move more with it? And the soccer kick you're lying down already? They're harder to defend.
Starting point is 00:32:35 When you're lower, I think you can kick a guy. Generate more power. Yeah. Right? Yeah. For sure. Like Charlie Brown kicked someone in the face? I think I could kick someone just as hard to the body. I don't know. I think you'd be be surprised you mean kick harder on the ground fuck yes like think about an nfl kicker yeah i don't
Starting point is 00:32:54 know like kicking like straight like that no i don't think so dude i'm pretty sure that i could kick just as hard to the body as i could to the to the ground i don't think so joe i think the real question is up high i don't I think up high I would lose something. I'd lose a little bit up high just from the leverage. But I think body-wise- I think your leg going straight like this and low, I think that's where most of the power is going to be. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Boom. And guaranteed all shin. And guaranteed all shin. Depends on what kind of kick. Because here's the thing. You could spinning back kick someone in the face When they're down too That's another thing to think about Think about like
Starting point is 00:33:27 It's so dark It's so dark Turning side kick Yours Not all of them But think about that Like a dude gets hit He goes down on one knee
Starting point is 00:33:35 And you fucking Get down People are going to die You're a dead man People are going to die I mean if your face is right there And you took a full power Turning side kick to the face,
Starting point is 00:33:45 look at Brandon. He's so jacked now. He's so thick. This is the one when he KO'd the dude and kicked him to the head when he was on the ground. Remember when he beat Frank Mir? He was like, I'm taking light heavyweight, heavyweight over. You know what happened with him? That's a beautiful straight left. But look at this.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Soccer kicks to the back of the head. That shit's rough. Those kind of kicks to the back of the head. That shit's rough. Those kind of kicks to the back of the head are super dangerous. Forget that noise. Brandon Vera, always a good guy, man. Always a cool dude. He's a really good guy. Yeah, great guy.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Really good guy. I was always a fan of his. But, you know, he started out as a heavyweight and then dropped down to light heavyweight. But the big thing that happened to him in the UFC was he went through this big, prolonged contract negotiation. He wanted to get paid. He wanted to get paid, and when he came back, there was a tremendous amount of pressure on him. He just didn't perform the same as he did before. Then he fought Fabrizio.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Fabrizio Verdum got on top of him and put the squish down on him and beat the shit out of him. Fabrizio's mount. Ugh. This should be interesting. Jan Blachowicz. Mark Goddard, again, in the motherfucking house. Who is the gentleman Jan Blachowicz. Mark Goddard again in the motherfucking house. Who is the gentleman that Blachowicz is fighting?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Devin Clark. Devin Clark. Devin Clark. Do not know Mr. Clark. There's the golden snitch right to the left. Oh, I didn't see him. He made an appearance. He's right there checking piss.
Starting point is 00:35:00 He's got a little magnifying glass. You don't have a hit out on him. Shaking vials. Shaking vials. Shaking vials. If anybody should have a hit on him, it should be IMG, or WME, rather. Right. People that bought the UFC. Dude, you're fucking up our business.
Starting point is 00:35:14 They should find that Russian dude that they got in hiding. Bring him in. Bring him in. Give him promotion. Give Novitski some new position. Say, look, Jaffe did a great job, but we're going a different direction. Going a different direction. But we got a different job for you.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Kick rocks, nerd. No, keep him on. You don't want to fire him because then he'll talk some shit. Oh, Jeff, you got a new job. You're actually in marketing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's an amazing marketer. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 We need you to run the social media and shut the fuck up about piss tests. You have him run the UFC Performance Institute. Hey, we need you to run the social media and shut the fuck up about piss tests. You know what, you have them run the UFC Performance Institute. Hey, piss boy, you just stay Hey, piss boy, you stay at the UFC Institute now and just keep your mouth shut. You know what you're gonna make? You're gonna make shakes now. You're making shakes for the UFC fighters. No, no, no, you gotta give them a prestigious position. No, we say it's
Starting point is 00:35:58 prestigious, but you just do that and we pay you out the ass to shut the fuck up. How about you make some hemp protein shakes and shut the fuck up. Yeah, just have them monitor the dudes that are on the treadmill yeah job guys there you go guys put that hose in your mouth when they run with the hose yeah i was like what are you fucking rocky cold towel you guys need cold towel that should be his gig ultimate piss boy oh that's hilarious that ufc performance institute is amazing. I haven't seen it. I'd love to see it.
Starting point is 00:36:26 We should go live. You know, the next UFC in Vegas, you should come with me and we'll take a trip. I went there. I went there. Did you? A couple weeks ago. Oh, you had a meeting there about Fight Pass, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:36:35 About EBI? And combat jiu-jitsu. How'd that go? Good. Good. Good. You know, yeah. Did it?
Starting point is 00:36:44 Did it? Yeah. Did it? We're still in the good, good. You know, yeah. Did it or? Yeah. Did it? We're still in negotiations about combat jiu-jitsu, which is in three weeks. But it's looking good. And so it's like they've been doing a lot of promotion, I know,
Starting point is 00:37:04 of EBI on Fight Pass. Yeah. Like during the fights. Totally. We've had some nice promotion. They sat us down. They sat us down and said, listen, look what we do for you. They put a whole presentation.
Starting point is 00:37:19 It goes, every time we mention you guys on this show or that show, boom, you know how much that's worth? They broke it down for us. And we're like, fuck. That's pretty badass. It is. It's killer. Are you in contract negotiations that's what's going on um combat jiu-jitsu is a new it's a it's an offshoot it's a spin-off from ebi it's a hundred percent combat jiu-jitsu with palm strikes and you're trying to
Starting point is 00:37:36 sell that to fight we're putting on the show and the ufc wants to be part of it and i just really can't explain exactly how. But we're going to figure it out within the next week. Gotcha. But if you don't know what combat jiu-jitsu is, it's basically in between sub-only jiu-jitsu and MMA. It's not MMA, but it's not sub-only. It's right there.
Starting point is 00:38:00 It's for jiu-jitsu fanatics who are just interested in seeing. You know, there's like guys that are really into kickboxing and they know everything about kickboxing, but they'll watch MMA a little bit, you know what I mean? But they're into kickboxing. They're in the business. And then there's guys like that in boxing. They'll watch a little MMA. Well, there's guys like that
Starting point is 00:38:18 in jujitsu too. A lot of guys in jujitsu do not watch the UFC. You know why? Because they're so into jujitsu, they want to see jujitsu. They watch jujitsu do not watch the ufc you know why because they're so into jiu-jitsu they want to see jiu-jitsu they watch jiu-jitsu and mma but they're not interested in kickboxing just like a kickboxing guy is not interested in watching jiu-jitsu matches sure so there's a lot of different little genres and um combat jiu-jitsu is for the the jiu-jitsu freak that wants to watch jiu-jitsu competition with a little more realism a little bit closer to mma when you add
Starting point is 00:38:46 palm strikes the importance of each position changes tremendously like in the sub only games especially right well well in the sub only game that's one aspect in the sub only game uh the full guard is not important at all if you never want to play full guard that's on you you don't have to you could win abu dhabi in the point system without ever playing full guard. You could win. Full guard is so not important in sub only and in point grappling. Can you explain what you're allowed to do? What are you allowed to do in combat jiu-jitsu?
Starting point is 00:39:17 Strike wise? Can you punch at all? No, it's palm strikes. Only. When they're standing, it's just wrestling. It's not MMA. It's not MMA. Right. It's not MMA.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Just wrestling, standing. It's extreme jujitsu. You got to look at it. So wrestling is just, standing is just wrestling, but as soon as someone hits the ground, you can start throwing palm strikes. Right. You know? But no elbows to the body, no punches to the body.
Starting point is 00:39:38 No punches, just palm strikes to the body. Nothing. Just palm strikes. So it's like, remember the old Gracie in Action videos? Yeah. All those challenge matches in Brazil, they had rules. They were just palm strikes and jiu-jitsu. Those were rules. So after we
Starting point is 00:39:51 did the first combat jiu-jitsu tournament at EBI 11, that's when I first introduced it, Horian Gracie calls me. I never talked to Horian Gracie, ever. He called Rose Gracie to get my number. He wanted to call me. I'm on the phone with Horry and Gracie and he's thanking me for putting together combat jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:40:08 He goes, Eddie, this is how we used to do it in Brazil. I wanted Halleck to do this, but Halleck would not do this. This is what we wanted. Thank you. This is the real jiu-jitsu. I'm like, holy shit. The guy who invented the UFC calls me up. Smart man. What happens if a guy accidentally makes a fist?
Starting point is 00:40:24 It's a foul. It's like a foul. Do you get a point taken away? Like, can I keep making fists? Well, it's still no points. We call this finish only. Because in the first 10 minutes, if there's not a submission or a TKO,
Starting point is 00:40:36 I mean, that's the only way you could finish. Then we go into overtime, like EBI overtime. But there has to be a finish. So we call it finish only. So people can get knocked out. People can. They haven people get knocked out. People, they haven't got knocked out yet. We did two, we did two four man tournaments.
Starting point is 00:40:50 We did a girl one, the last show. And we did a, at EBI 11, like six months ago, we did the first one. Now we're doing a whole show. Combat Jiu Jitsu Worlds 1. A whole show. And Gary Tonin's going to be in it. Wagner Rocha's going to be in it. So tomorrow you're going to see Gary Tonin and Wagner Rocha going at it EBI style. And then three weeks later you're going to see them going at it with palm strikes.
Starting point is 00:41:11 How cool is that? The palm strikes is interesting because you remember when Boss Root and Burst on the scene in Pancrase was light motherfuckers on fire with palm strikes. Yes. Because he figured out instead of swinging like a bitch, what he figured out is you pull the palm strikes and throw punches. Just you throw in punches. You're going to break his hand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:31 That's why he started doing a lot of it. No, no. That was the rules. Yeah, I know. I know. But even when he went to MMA, he said he would keep the same thing, even if there was a rule or not, because he said he wouldn't break his hand. Well, you definitely can.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But he threw a lot of punches in MMA. For sure. But he would still throw hooks and stuff with open hand. It's not, look, the thing about the palm is it's not much softer than punching somebody, but you don't hurt your hand at all. If you've got a guy like Bas Rutten who really knows how to do it well, Bas has weird wrists. He could pull his hand way further than I can. He pulls his hand way back. Like, he gets his hand, like, back there.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah. So he's basically just fucking palm slagging a bitch. He probably works on it, too. I bet he does. It's embarrassing to get slapped. So what happens with combat jiu-jitsu is the importance of the positions change. Like, all of a sudden, when there's palm strikes, full guard is crucial. Guard is trouble.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah, guard would be trouble. You can't be half guard. Unnecessary in all of jujitsu. There's guys that win Abu Dhabi multiple times, never put anybody in their full guard. It's so unnecessary. But when there's palm strikes, it's the most important guard.
Starting point is 00:42:40 So it's better to prepare for MMA with that. That's another reason. So aspiring grapplers that want to start working on like mma type jujitsu and jujitsu positions and focus on the positions that are going to translate to mma better combat jujitsu will get their feet they'll get to practice they'll get to practice mma jujitsu without worrying about more getting head kicked or something you know what i mean that's what it's for it's MMA jiu-jitsu without worrying about getting head kicked or something. You know what I mean? That's what it's for.
Starting point is 00:43:07 It's for the jiu-jitsu fanatics that they like to see MMA when there's jiu-jitsu. Well, with combat jiu-jitsu, it's going to be mostly jiu-jitsu. Well, you know, whenever they move rules around on combat sports, it makes it interesting. That's what they did with K-1. They took Muay Thai and they said, you know what? This clinch. You guys clinched too much. The elbows cut people up.
Starting point is 00:43:26 You know, knees to the face. Let's cut all the fucking clinch with the knees to the face, like holding and kneeing. And let's just have it turn into kickboxing. Yeah, try to make it better. Yeah, they just tried to make it more exciting. Yeah. This is going to be for guys that like MMA when there's jiu-jitsu in it. Now we're going to get pure MMA style jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And we don't have to worry about the striking. We love Muay Thai. We love all that. But this is just for the hardcore jiu-jitsu guys. We're going to get a lot of data on what leg lock positions
Starting point is 00:43:53 are going to go out the door. Yeah, that's going to change. Because in the sub only game, shit, you can go for any goddamn leg lock you want. But when they're striking, we're going to, uh-uh, not with that one.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Right. And that one's too risky. Let's just stick with these right here. And that's what we're going to find out-uh, not with that one. And that one's too risky. Let's just stick with these right here. And that's what we're going to find out. Are guys working their ground and pound? Are guys getting a bag and just fucking bam, bam. Do they have to stay down, Eddie?
Starting point is 00:44:14 Can I, like, if I'm in guard and I'm on top, can I posture up? Yes. As long as the guy's on the ground, you could stand up. You could be in a horse stance and throw palm strikes. God damn. Someone's getting knocked out. And tomorrow at EBI 13, it's a regular Saboni 16-man tournament, but we're also having a four-man combat jiu-jitsu tournament with Richie Martinez.
Starting point is 00:44:36 We just missed a knockout. Jan Blachowicz just knocked somebody out. He's a real veteran. He's bodied up, too. He's a real vet with a body on him. Yeah, he's jacked. He's very wide. Yeah, he is. Set his shoulders on him. Let's bodied up, too. He's a real vet with a body on him. Yeah, he's jacked. He's very wide. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Set his shoulders on him. Let's watch what happened in the replay. Might have missed a couple leg days, whatever. Just stopped the fight for some reason, and then they came back right away, knocked him out or something. They stopped it, then were like, go, and he knocked him out. Yeah, I missed the way he stopped it. I was trying to reset the clock, and I looked back up, and it was over.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Well, we'll get a look at the replay here. Here we go. Left hook. Left hook counter. That wobbled him. Oh, he choked him. Oh, he got him in a standing choke. Wow, look at that.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Look at that. That's pretty dope. He was pretty concussed. It's better than a knockout right there Oh sweet Left hook, he's all messed up It's way more dramatic than a knockout right there Standing Rear naked choke, against the fence
Starting point is 00:45:37 No hooks Somebody had some ridiculous elbow knockout yesterday Oh no How about Heather Hardy Have you seen this Eddie So she was a ridiculous boxer elbow knockout yesterday. Oh, no. How about Heather Hardy? Oh! Have you seen this, Eddie? So she was a ridiculous boxer. I mean, one of the best female boxers of all time.
Starting point is 00:45:52 She's like, hey, I want to try MMA. She had a good first fight in Mass Square Garden. She fought last night. This girl had three fights. No, no. The girl had zero MMA fights. No, she had three MMA fights. Three amateur. Amateur.
Starting point is 00:46:02 This is her pro debut. In Bellator. Her pro debut. But she was a kickboxer. This is her pro debut. In Bellator. Her pro debut, but she was a kickboxer, and she kicked this girl's fucking face in. Well, Heather rolled like you're doing boxing. Christina Williams. Heather rolled like you're doing boxing, and that girl went, hey, boom. Well, the girl was beating her ass before that. Did you see her elbows?
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yes. Like, Heather was like, what the fuck are these? Yeah, she didn't know what to do. She thought she was in a safe position, and also the girl was lighting her up from the outside with kicks. She was a kickboxing champion. Undefeated in kickboxing. Undefeated in taekwondo, I think. Undefeated in boxing.
Starting point is 00:46:33 So the girl knew how to strike. I root for Heather, man. You hear her story, it's fucking fascinating, man. What's her story? Well, she was living with her mom, her grandma, and she had a daughter. And they were all living in a one-bedroom place in New York. And she was like, I'm going fucking crazy being in the house with the baby all day. I just need an hour to go work out.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Someone's like, oh, there's a boxing gym down the street. She walks in the boxing gym, starts to work out. And they're like, damn, you're not bad at this. Boom. Next thing you know, monster. It's because she didn't run into that chick. Monster. Well, box.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And I think Heather would be hurt. I don't know. That girl could fight, man Monster Well box And I think Heather would I don't know That girl can fight man Box and be a different story I don't know about all that Heather's super high level Boxing joke She is But that girl can box too
Starting point is 00:47:13 She has an undefeated Kickboxing record as well Yeah I hear you Heather's a monster But her control of distance Was what's important And when she was
Starting point is 00:47:21 Standing in front of her She would kick And then she'd move To another angle She'd mix it up Non-stop And Heather just wanted to kind of get in close and play that dirty boxing game. Well, the big thing was the distance. Christina Williams was fighting completely outside.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I mean, if you've got to close the distance and you can't throw kicks. Like, if you're a boxer and you can't throw kicks, and the other person can box a little and they can kick good, like this girl can, you're fucked, man. Those kicks hit you a couple times in the arms, and all of a sudden those arms don't work so good anymore you know and then you're super nervous kick in the rhythm then you see heather there she tried rolling like you do from a left hook or something like that and that fucking kick hit her so hard man shin right to the face her nose is just destroyed like she's never gonna look the same
Starting point is 00:48:03 again it's pretty girl too yeah they're gonna have same again. She's a pretty girl, too. Yeah, they're going to have to redo her. It's a bummer because they're belterous bank on her to kind of be the next big thing to carry that women's division. Not that a loss kills her. That kind of loss is a tough one because you get your face caved in. Again, your face caved in is not just losing. Talking about cyborg style? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Michael Fenn and Paige? Yeah, the face is so fucked up like that like you just gotta wonder like how long would it take before that girl could even fight again did you see michael venn and page professional boxing debut granted the motherfucker he fought was four and 70 whatever he murked that dude and he did it in a weird way yeah hands down leaped for the straight right blasted him and then just stepped on the ropes and looked away. How exciting is that kid? He's fun, man. He would be a big star in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:48:49 With the right matchups, yeah. Yeah, and Bellator, they just do not get the credit that they deserve. I mean, I agree. No one gets the credit they deserve, but he's a big star over there. In London, he's big. Him and Paul Daly is going to happen. Oh, yeah. Well, I hope it happens.
Starting point is 00:49:03 It's going to happen. It is a video, Jamie. You find a video of Well, I hope it happens. It's going to happen. It is a video, Jamie. You find a video of the punch. There it is. It's kind of crazy. Watch how he does this. His style is so... Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Look at him. Look at him. He's over the ropes. He's hilarious, man. Yeah, he's kind of comical. That is a serious right hand. Holy shit. There's so much stepping into it, so much kind of comical. That was a serious right hand. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:49:25 There's so much stepping into it, so much momentum behind that. Rory McDonald was on my show talking about how he'd like to fight him eventually. That'd be a fun fight. Although if Rory just came in with some wrestling shoes, it would just pick him apart. He would dismantle him. The problem is Rory's not easy to hit. He's very good on his feet.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Oh, Rory, stay behind the jab if he wants to. If he got a hold of Michael, Michael's fucked. Which he would do. Yeah, Roy, stay behind the jab if he wants to. If he got a hold of Michael, Michael's fucked. Which he would do. Yeah, he's just too high level. Rory has just one of the most comprehensive games in the 170-pound division in the world. He's the best welterweight in the world. He very well could be. He beat the UFC champ.
Starting point is 00:49:56 He beat Woodley, yeah. But then lost, you know. I think, you know what, man? Rafael Dos Anjos fighting Robbie Lawler. God damn, that's a good fight. It's a good fight. We're going to learn a lot about Dos Anjos Fighting Robbie Lawler God damn That's a good fight It's a good fight We're going to learn a lot About Dos Anjos at 170
Starting point is 00:50:08 Dos Anjos at 170 Looks like a fucking murderer Looks scary He looks like the same guy At 155 I think when When he was making that Mad run at 155
Starting point is 00:50:17 You know When he got to the end And he lost to Alvarez He was just cutting Too much weight He couldn't do it anymore Too much weight But now you see him at 175
Starting point is 00:50:24 He looks more comfortable. He's got more power. And he's beating the fuck out of people at 170. I mean, he ate Neil Magny the fuck up. He ate him up and ran through him. It was like a world champion fighting a journeyman. That's what it was like. Not even a journeyman. It was like, listen, I love you, Neil,
Starting point is 00:50:39 but it looked like fucking amateur hour. Yeah, he smashed him. Well, Neil's always going to have problems with the real elite guys on the ground. Elite grapplers, that's his downfall. That's his Achilles heel. Everyone else he can fucks with. You know, he beat Kelvin Gaslam. He's beat top-level guys.
Starting point is 00:50:54 But if they're really, really good on the ground. But let's be honest about why he beat Kelvin. Kelvin was overweight, and he came in, and he tried to cut too much weight, and he was just diminished. I think Kelvin in shape is just way too much for him. That's my opinion. I just think Kelvin is one of the best in the world. I'm not saying he's not, but matchup wise, even at 70s can be a tough fight for Kelvin.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Kelvin can do things to him that he can't do to Kelvin. Kelvin knocks people dead and he doesn't. Neil has got incredible cardio, long reach, but he just kind of picks guys apart. Long range. Bring in the deeper rounds. Most impressed with him was when he fought Hector. Hector Lombard. Oh, Lombard, yes. Because Lombard had him dead.
Starting point is 00:51:34 He had him on queer street. I mean, you can say what you want about Neil, but he beat Hector Lombard, Johnny Hendricks, and Kelvin Gaston. Yep, yep. World class. I mean, he's definitely a world class fighter, but that's how good Dos Anjos is. Dos Anjos is. Dos Anjos kicked him one time to the legs.
Starting point is 00:51:47 His legs went whoop. Well, when he took him down, it was fucking. Took him down with a leg kick. Ate his ass up. Yeah, he leg kicked him to the ground. I mean, have you seen the size of Dos Anjos' legs at 172? He's a monster. He's so much bigger.
Starting point is 00:52:02 It's just so much healthier for him. All these, I just, Dana said something recently that he doesn't think that more weight classes are the solution to weight cutting. I disagree. Well, what's the solution? Whatever we're doing is not working because no one misses more weight than at 55 and 70. Well, how about Kevin Lee? I mean, if they've got everything locked down, how does Kevin Lee barely make it to 155 and looks like he's on death door and he's 19 pounds over two days who has it locked down you're saying i'm saying they don't have it locked fuck no it's the biggest issue well besides a lot some other things but it's one of the biggest issues in our sport and now kevin has said kevin has said he can't do it anymore he's gonna he's gonna move
Starting point is 00:52:40 up he said this weight cut damn he said that. Yeah, he's going to move up. That staff ain't helping nobody either. Yeah. Kevin Lee. He's going to 170. Yeah. You just got to do same day weigh-in. Yeah. Nobody will take a chance.
Starting point is 00:52:53 No one would kill themselves if it's same day weigh-in. They wouldn't take a chance. Yeah. That's why like IBJJF does that. EBI does that. Same day, you're going to take a chance. You can't take a chance. You just got to compete at what you're really at.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. If you got a day to recover, they go, damn, I got a day to recover they go damn i got a day to cut all this i can kill myself i'll have 24 hours to recover but when you don't have like ibjjf they make you weigh in and then you fight right a minute later but but you know i love kevin he knows but you know tony cut a bunch of weight he figured it out but tony was like three pounds over like a couple of days out. Yeah. But like two weeks before Tony goes down, he has it down to,
Starting point is 00:53:31 he's a soldier, dude. I mean, but then, but also if you're Dana, you, you need more weight classes cause it's fucking your, your,
Starting point is 00:53:38 your business up. Cause Khabib, I mean, yeah, we can't put any money on them. You can't, Connor's never going to fight him. He's not fighting Tony next
Starting point is 00:53:45 Tony don't wanna fight him Like dude You can't even make weight He's gonna fight Barboza Maybe Who's gonna fight Barboza Khabib Is he
Starting point is 00:53:52 Khabib That's a great fight Yeah Apparently He's got According to Cormier He's got a new nutritionist And the nutritionist
Starting point is 00:53:58 Has got him on point It's a discipline issue He's gotta keep the tiramisu away Yeah Tiramisu I don't give a fuck if You know It's definitely a discipline issue But it's got to keep the tiramisu away. Yeah, tiramisu. I don't give a fuck if, you know. It's definitely a discipline issue, but it's also a psychological issue.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You think Tony's going to fight Conor? You think that's going down? He has to. He has to, right? I think Conor made that post. Conor made that post to Tony. Recently? Yeah, he made an Instagram post.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Talking about the GTA post? Yeah, Grand Theft Auto with him holding a gun, driving a boat. Because Tony did it first. Because Tony did it first, right? Well, Tony was talking shit about him. He called him McNugget and all this different shit. Yeah, but Tony posted... He's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:54:28 But didn't Tony originally post the GTA meme and then Conor responded with his or vice versa? I think it's vice versa. I think Conor went at Tony. Look, Conor's smart. He realizes that Tony's an unusual, eccentric character. Yeah. He wrote Tony.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Conor is an unusual... Look, he's got a bag of cash in the back connor's an unusual eccentric character tony's an unusual eccentric character too and tony look tony has the longest win streak in the ufc's 155 pound division he is the interim champion and he's the logical fight he's won 10 in a row for god's sakes in the toughest division in the world yeah he's a bad motherfucker no doubt here's the legitimate champion here's the logical fight. He's won 10 in a row, for God's sakes, in the toughest division in the world. Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker, no doubt. Here's the problem. Legitimate champion. Here's the problem with that.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And I 100% think Conor has to fight Tony next. If you want to be taken serious in your legacy, you have to fight Tony. But if you're Conor's business decision makers, you're going, look at Tony's draw for pay-per-view, though. It's going to be tough for us to sell this thing. Well, yes, but not with Conor connor like connor sells like fucking crazy and connor versus tony sells because tony's a legit threat connor versus my mom sells right but connor versus
Starting point is 00:55:36 a legit threat sells like connor fighting someone sells but connor versus a legit threat is where it gets tony is the big fight that's's the big fight right there. I agree. El Cucuy, are you kidding? He's arrived. He's a character. Yeah, but. Eddie, I'm with you, but the pay-per-view numbers were fucking awful. They were terrible.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Well, well, you know. Don't get me wrong. It takes two to tango. It does. Not for Connor. Kevin Lee isn't the biggest name on the planet. Everybody respects him in the game Because they know he's a beast
Starting point is 00:56:06 He's coming up Fucking people up Choking people out Left and right They know he's a beast But the world really didn't know him yet Correct You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:56:13 The world doesn't know either of them And there was a lot of controversy They know Tony now The world knows Tony The world knows Tony There was a lot of controversy It depends On Kevin's win over Kiesa
Starting point is 00:56:20 The world knows Tony For sure The whole world doesn't know Tony But the MMA world knows Tony, for sure. But the regular people are the people that you need to get a hold of in order to really buy pay-per-views. Because the world knows Nate. And that's where the businessmen, the WMEs go, well, let's do Nate. Which, if you look at any poll, I did a poll, Eric Hawane did a poll, MMA Junkie.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Everyone goes, no, Tony Ferguson's the fucking fight. You're talking hundreds of thousands of votes. People go, Tony Ferguson's the next fight. But WME's of thousands of votes. People go, Tony Ferguson's the next fight. But WME's going, yeah, but the money's over here. Yeah. But the Nate fight's not going anywhere. And how long are you going to let Conor play this kind of weird make up a fight game? Well, here's the thing with Nate.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Nate made $4 million over two fights, and he don't give a fuck. He's like, pay me. You got to pay me. But the UFC's going to pay you for what? You've lost four out of your last seven. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but he beat Conor. And then the second fight, he arguably had a draw with Conor.
Starting point is 00:57:13 But he lost. He lost a decision based on a couple of people's opinion. That's all that matters, Joe. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't. Public opinion means a lot. If you went online and you asked people who you think won that fight, I bet you would get very close to 50-50 Nate versus Conor.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Doesn't matter. But it does matter in terms of how you sell the fight. It doesn't because to sell the fight, if Nate would have won if those three people had Nate winning, you don't have a third fight. You could have a third fight after he beats Eddie Alvarez. No, not twice in a row. Sure. After you beat Eddie Alvarez, you absolutely could have a third fight after he beats Eddie Alvarez. No, not twice in a row. Sure.
Starting point is 00:57:45 After he beat Eddie Alvarez, you absolutely could have a third fight. Yeah, absolutely. Not if Nate beat him twice. Not true. Not true. Especially if he beat him by the same decision. If he had the exact same fight and Nate won that decision, which was entirely feasible, right?
Starting point is 00:58:00 The second fight was so close, you could easily have given it to Nate. If Nate wins that second fight... He's beat him twice in a row. You don't think that after Conor knocks out Eddie Alvarez the way he did, if Conor fought Alvarez, knocked him out, you don't think you could sell a third fight because it was so goddamn razor close? God, 0-2, I guess. You're looking at the numbers.
Starting point is 00:58:20 See, the problem with decisions is these decisions are solidified by three people that oftentimes don't even have a fucking background in MMA. Correct. And get decisions wrong all the time. That doesn't mean a lot to me. What means a lot to me is how close the fight was. That's what means a lot to me. If a guy goes 0-2, it's going to be tough to tell me on Trilogy.
Starting point is 00:58:37 What do we have, Jamie? The scorecards from that fight. Yeah, 47-47, 48-47, 48-47. That's as fucking close as it gets. It's a majority decision. One guy scored a draw. Glenn Trowbridge. I do not remember what I thought, whether I thought it went to Conor or went to—
Starting point is 00:58:56 You know what? I don't think I watched it again. I'm pretty sure I only watched that fight when I was— It was a close fucking fight. Very close. Super razor close. We've seen decisions in fights that weren't as close go to the other guy. But no one got robbed in that fight.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I wouldn't say Nate got robbed. I would say that it's a controversial decision because anytime you have a majority decision, there's some controversy to it. But my point is you could easily sell that fight Even if Nate had won I think there's other fights to sell Bigger fights What is a bigger fight? If Nate fought Connor You think there's a bigger fight than that?
Starting point is 00:59:36 Hold on Joe I'm trying to follow you So you're saying if Nate beat him twice The third fight is going to be a big fight right now? You see this beat him stuff It's the same's going to be a big fight right now? You see, this beat him stuff, it's the same exact fight. The same exact fight takes place. God damn, man. Winning and losing matters. The same exact fight.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Those three random fucking people, they decide, you know what, this 47-47, I'm going to go 48-47 Diaz. And then the 48-47 goes, you know what, I think it's the opposite. I think it's 48-47. It's a make-believe world. It's not a make-believe world
Starting point is 01:00:07 because it's entirely feasible that that could have happened. But that never happened. And Tony has a belt. Jesus Christ. Are you listening to me? It's entirely possible that could have happened in the exact same fight. It's still the same fight. The fight was very close. Those guys are rivals, man. And Nate choked him the fuck out in the first fight. Correct.
Starting point is 01:00:23 That's always going to be there. So even if Conor got real close, Conor's such a superstar that if he lost a close decision in the second fight, you could absolutely make an argument for a third fight, especially with one or two spectacular performances like the Eddie Alvarez fight. So if we're going off that, we can do any fight. Let's do Jose Aldo. You could say, oh, that was a freak accident at 13 seconds. Let's run that back. That's a huge draw. I think you could run that back.
Starting point is 01:00:47 For sure. And then let's run Eddie Alvarez back if he beats Justin Gaethje. The thing about Eddie Alvarez was he beat the shit out of Eddie Alvarez and then knocked him out. Eddie was never in that fight. Let's bring Chad Mendes back because he took it on six-day notice. It's not a bad idea, but Chad's
Starting point is 01:01:03 fighting at 145. So where do we stop? I don't see what's so difficult about it. What are you saying? I don't understand what you're saying. I'm just saying the Nate fight, it could have gone either way, but it didn't happen. So you can make – Conor in any fight is going to be big. But winning and losing does matter at the end of the day. To the general population, it does matter. It does matter, but when the fights are the exact same,
Starting point is 01:01:23 you could easily see the decision go one way or the other. You know there's fights that you've watched where you say, you know what, the guy got the decision, but man, I don't agree with it. You just said that with Musashi and Shomenko. Yeah, it happens all the time. That's part of the game. I look at that fight, if I look at a fight like that, I absolutely want to
Starting point is 01:01:40 see that fight again. I don't care if one guy got a decision from three people that I don't agree with. That's fine. I guess we're kind of saying the same thing. I'm saying any fight Conor does is going to be big. Any fight Conor does is going to be big, but I think we both agree
Starting point is 01:01:56 that the big money is in the Nate Diaz fight. Correct. But it's not the smart fight to do. The big money would be in the Nate Diaz fight even if Nate beat him in the second fight. I really think that. I don't think so. I disagree with you there. I do because I think Conor's a giant superstar. He's not going to be less of a superstar and I think Nate would be a bigger star. How many times can
Starting point is 01:02:11 Conor lose to him? In fact, I think it would be worth more money if Nate beat him in the second fight. I think Nate would be a bigger star. Tony and Conor is about as big as a fight you can get in a lightweight division. Because you trained Tony. In UFC history. In UFC history. Tony against Conor is about his biggest fight you can get in a lightweight division in UFC history. Because you trained Tony. In UFC history.
Starting point is 01:02:26 In UFC history. Tony against Conor. And that's like Duran versus Leonard. I don't think it's the biggest fight, but I think it's what the purest is like. It's up there. It's what the purest is like. It's among the best lightweight unification.
Starting point is 01:02:39 It's because Conor's coming off of the Floyd Mayweather high. Oh, dude. People know. Let's say if Nate. First of all, Eddie, before you rip my head off, I agree. Tony and Conor 100% have to fight next. He's a star in our world. In the big world, he's not.
Starting point is 01:02:56 He's a star in our world. Now he is. In the big world, he is now. But let's say Nate. Well, hold on a second. You think you can go to the gas station right now and go, hey, man, who's Tony Ferguson? Depends on the guy who's there. If he has a UFC shirt, he'll know. Okay. Pretty much. You can go to the gas station right now and go, hey, man, who's Tony Ferguson? Depends on the guy who's there. If he has a UFC shirt, he'll know.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Okay. Pretty much. If he has a WWE shirt, probably not. What if he has an Affliction shirt on? It all depends. If you go to the average person and ask them who Nate Diaz is, way more people are going to know who he is than Tony. Now, hear me out, Joe. Hear me out, Eddie.
Starting point is 01:03:21 What if Nate... Floyd Mayweather is still a bigger name. They could do a rematch and have another big fight bigger than Kukui. But I'm talking about for the UFC, fuck everyone outside the UFC. UFC has millions and millions of fans. Well, Nate's a bigger name. All over the world. All over the world.
Starting point is 01:03:38 He has the interim belt. He has to fight him. No, you're right. There's a discussion. He has to fight him. There's a discussion. You're right in terms of as a purist. Correct.
Starting point is 01:03:47 But Joe, what if this? What if Nate took another fight? As your average UFC fan, I'm right, as your average UFC fan. What if Nate fought Barboza or Khabib and beat them? Think how big that Nate fight would be with Conor then. That's a big if, though. The problem with that is Nate's lost to a lot of guys. We're talking about an if world right now.
Starting point is 01:04:03 We're talking if Conor lost. But we're not right now because we're talking about what pieces are in play right now. What do we have right in front of us? So we're going to do right now. So if you're doing it right now. Nate. Well, if you're going by what the fans have voted, Tony would be the fight that the purists want. But this is the fans that listen to Ariel Helwani or you.
Starting point is 01:04:21 These are hardcore people. In order to make money, you have to get those people, and then you gotta get the people who know it peripherally. Well, then Nate Diaz or Paulie Malignaggi is the next fight. No, they don't even know Paulie Malignaggi. How dare you? They don't. Until he fights, unless Conor fights him in boxing,
Starting point is 01:04:38 the boxing fans. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, boxing. But I mean... Well, if taken all that out of context, Nate is the bigger fight, no matter how we paint this picture. Yeah. The fight you should do is Tony, though. Do you think that Paulie Malignaggi versus Conor is a bigger fight? Simple, but gotta get Tony new sunglasses.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Do you think that Paulie Malignaggi versus Conor is a bigger fight in boxing than Nate versus Conor is in MMA? I think whatever Conor does is big. It doesn't matter. But I think Nate versus Conor is bigger in MMA than Pauly versus Conor is in boxing. Probably. Yeah, because Pauly's not like a Floyd Mayweather where he's going to get all those boxing fans.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Pauly was good and he's a big name, he's on Showtime, but he's not Floyd Mayweather big. Yeah, it's just a different thing. You have the whole Nate frickin' fan base. You got the Conor fan base. Then you have WME behind that with the hype machine. Yeah, and they've severely lightened the sanctions on weed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 But if you're WME, you're going, what are we going to make the most? I'm sorry, not if you're WME. If you're Conor's business planners, you're going, how do we make the most money? It's a McGregor promotion in boxing. We're going to make more money doing that, fighting Pauly, and it's safer than fighting Nate or fighting Tony. That's true. But if Conor loses two in a row in boxing, that severely diminishes his star in MMA.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Comes back to MMA. And by the way, they'll strip him of his belt. If he fights another, we've got to strip him. They ain't doing shit to him. USC, who's going to do it? He does whatever he wants. He might fight at heavyweight if he wanted to. They're not going to do shit to him.
Starting point is 01:06:15 He's too much of a draw. But Tony or Nate is a dangerous fight. Either fight is a dangerous fight. Tony and Nate are more dangerous than fighting Pauly. What is that? Oh, Nate did his own. Nate's his own GTA fight. Tony and Nate are more dangerous than fighting Pauly. Nate did his own. Nate's his own GTA post. What does it say? It doesn't say anything. There's no comment. Monument? What is that?
Starting point is 01:06:33 That's just an account. Just that? I mean, regardless, I'm watching any of them. There's a Tony Ferguson one, too? Yeah, Tony has his. Tony might have been the first one to do it, I think. Tony Ferguson. I don't see one.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Oh, there it is. Snapdown City. No, that's not it, is it? There it is right there. It's a video or something. He's running with bears and Big Bear. Look at him. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I like that he trains up there, man. It's really interesting. Does he always rent the same place up there or does he rent different places? Different houses. So he just goes like Airbnb or something like that for a month and a half? How many weeks does he stay up there? Six weeks, something like that. Guy's got phenomenal cardio.
Starting point is 01:07:22 He was so calm in that fight too. It's like he knew that Kevin was just going to eventually fade out. Did he know about Kevin's staph infection? No, but I noticed it right when he got on the octagon. As soon as he got on the octagon, I'm like, dude has staph on his chest. You didn't see that? The way Tony responded to it, they said, did you know he had staph? He goes, yeah, I was trying to punch it.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I was using it as a target. I noticed it. I was calling it on on the i can't believe you said something what'd you think about the fight why did you think i why did you think i wouldn't say i don't know i don't because if you didn't know it was staff i was like oh fuck i knew it was staff i like that looks like staff and i said to dc we've had staff enough times yeah yeah i'm just saying if you have twice yeah i know what staff looks like. I'm like, that ain't good. That's a bad one. When he saw staff, I'm like, he's super screwed. Already it was
Starting point is 01:08:12 a tough matchup. Staff and antibiotics? No, he didn't go on antibiotics. He said he did, I thought. No, he said he didn't. He said he didn't take the antibiotics because he didn't want it to wreck his cardio. But the staff itself wrecks you. I thought Tony looked amazing. No, he did look amazing. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:08:26 When I was saying it and I said to DC, I go, hey, man. I go, that looks like staff to me. Does that look like staff? And DC's like, yeah, it looks like staff. Someone was in DC's ear saying, don't say anything. Someone was telling him in the production, don't talk about the staff. Don't talk about the staff. And then you just go, that's staff.
Starting point is 01:08:43 They're all, fuck. Staff. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. don't talk about the staff don't talk about and then you just go that's staff this is before before anybody i noticed it before anybody i noticed it immediately he took his shirt off he ran to the octagon i'm like that's staff so the truck saw before the truck was saying to dc don't say anything and dc's like yeah that looks like staff he said it anyway you gotta acknowledge it yeah what are you going to do? He did an interview where he said that they brought it up. Someone said it to him, and he's like, no, I'm going to talk about it anyway. You have to.
Starting point is 01:09:15 We're just going to ignore fucking staff? That's dangerous. But it's also a huge issue. Did Tony wash himself with bleach and shit afterwards? Yes. What did he do? He jumped in the shower. Yeah, man. Did he have defense soap?
Starting point is 01:09:24 I don't know. I hope so. Defense soap makes these little wipes, too, now. Well, he's fine. shower. Yeah, man. Did he have defense soap? I don't know. Gee, I hope so. Defense soap makes these little wipes, too, now. He's fine. You can put him on staff. Look at the size of that fucking staff infection. I forgot he had them mounted. Me, too.
Starting point is 01:09:35 I forgot about that, too. End of the first round. He escaped, though. Yeah. Kevin's a talented fucking dude, man. Oh, super talented. He's young. Look at the size of that staff infection, though.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Jesus Christ. Some of the worst staff I've ever seen. That's a huge, huge, pus dude, man. Oh, super talented. He's young. Look at the size of that staph infection, though. Jesus Christ. Some of the worst staph I've ever seen. That's a huge, huge pus-filled fucking hole. How bodied up is that dude, by the way? For reals. Jacked. How the fuck did he make 155, too? Because he looks all of 190 right there.
Starting point is 01:09:58 He's dead on the scale. Yeah, he looked very bad. He looked like a cryptkeeper. He looked very bad. But that's a terrible staph infection. I'll tell you what, Tony versus Conor is a fun matchup, man. It sure is. That's a great fight.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Tony has survivability. He's got crazy endurance. You've got to kill him. He is crazy in a good way. He is crazy where you're going to have to kill him. He can get things off from everywhere. He can beat you from the ground. He can beat you standing.
Starting point is 01:10:23 He can knock you out. He throws these weird off-angle punches. He's got a great chin. He's super durable. The elbows from the guard, that was what changed everything. So talented. Yeah, that's where Kevin was in trouble. Most fighters don't know this.
Starting point is 01:10:35 They think that in the mount, 12 to 6 is illegal, right? These straight down. But the upside down mount is full guard. 6 to 12. They're still the 12 to six, but they're on their back. Those are totally legal. Most fighters still don't know that
Starting point is 01:10:50 and they don't throw them. Which is strange. They don't throw them. But you know who was the master of that shit? Jose Pele Landy. Oh, yeah. Oh, gee. He was the first Anderson Silva to shoot box.
Starting point is 01:10:59 That was the first one. Anderson Silva was like his little protege. Jose Pele Landy, when he fought Makako back in the late 90s and Valituda Mecca and all that stuff. Remember what was that? Bare knuckles. Remember that? In high school gyms, they had a rivalry.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Makako was a, he still fights now. Makako was a jujitsu guy and Pele was the Muay Thai guy. But anytime Makako would take him down in full guard, Pele would put his feet on his hips and throw those 12 to 6 from the guard and fucking would brutalize Akaka. That's some power. It's like, you didn't want to take this. That's all you focused on from the full guard. Did you guys train a lot of it?
Starting point is 01:11:35 It's hard to train those, but in full guard we'd say, remember, always, always. Look at Ben Saunders. It's part of the game. Rubber guard and elbows, they work hand in hand. Remember when Jason Day fought Alan Belcher? Exactly. Jason Day versus
Starting point is 01:11:49 Alan Belcher, he threw like 22 elbows for mission control. He had a mission control. It's part of the system. If you can't get him in a position where you want him, just get to Michigan throw and throw elbows. But in the situation in Tony's fight
Starting point is 01:12:05 kevin lee didn't want to stay on his feet he wanted tony on the ground so when you have a situation like that where tony's winning the stand-up he wants to stand up but you got a wrestler on top of you now you can put your feet you can put your feet on the hips because if kevin wanted to keep the fight standing let's say he was beating tony standing then tony putting his feet on the hips would be bad because then Kevin would stand up and now we got to drag him to the ground again. But since Kevin didn't want to stand, now you're free to throw those 12 to 6 from the bottom. You put the feet on the hips. Because Kevin has to put the pressure so it's perfect. You just hold yourself up.
Starting point is 01:12:42 And you can't even fire back. When you got your feet on the hips, your knees are blocking the up. And you can't even fire back. When you've got your feet on the hips, your knees are blocking the shoulders. So dudes can't even fire back. And if you set the pace first, he's got to block. He doesn't have time to throw because you're coming straight with those elbows. You watch that fight. Kevin, he was confused with the elbows. That threw everything off.
Starting point is 01:13:00 That's what set up the submission, too. I'll tell you what's interesting is in the fight with Tony and Conor, I'll say that's next. If Tony goes, you know what? I'm going to do my weird movement, but I'm just going to grapple the fuck out of you. I don't know how good of a fight you have. Because Tony's an amazing wrestler. People don't realize how good of a wrestler he is.
Starting point is 01:13:17 It's not a good fight for Conor, I'll tell you that. If Tony doesn't want to be a good fight, if Tony goes, you know what? You think you're the best standing up? I think I'm the best. Watch this. You have a classic on your hands. But if Tony goes, you know what? You think you're the best standing up? I think I'm the best. Watch this. You have a classic on your hands. But if Tony goes, I'm just going back to my wrestling days. You're fucked.
Starting point is 01:13:31 It's not great for Conor. I think it's still great because if he finishes him, it's great. If he gets Conor to ground, beats him up and strangles him. I'm saying for Conor. For Tony, it's great no matter what. I think it's a dangerous fight for Conor. I think it's a very dangerous fight. I think it's dangerous for both guys. Super dangerous for Conor. Tony's the's a very dangerous fight. I think it's dangerous for both guys. Super dangerous for Conor.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Yeah. Tony's the most dangerous guy in that division by far. He doesn't do anything to— You know what I'm thinking about judging, about we're talking about the arbitrary three people. I think that's a very flawed system, and I think it's completely unnecessary today. I think today, with access to voting and online voting. A fan vote? Not a fan vote. A vote of experts. A panel of experts.
Starting point is 01:14:10 You get a bunch of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belts that are also MMA journalists, different referees and judges have a panel of like, you know, I guess Who know what's going on? How does the Academy Awards work? I don't know how it works. but i would assume it's a bunch of people that are experts in the film
Starting point is 01:14:28 who are in the business it's a good idea joe yes that's a great idea no well that's different oh man it's crazy right documentary and an open secret watch that shit i keep hearing about an open secret watch it's about holly? It's about Hollywood, right? It's about Hollywood managers who manage kids. It's a racket, man. Did you hear that that kid from Strange? They're just grooming these kids. Dude.
Starting point is 01:14:55 That kid from Strange Things? The sucker dick. Stranger Things. Stranger Things. Yeah. He just left his manager and they're alleging sexual abuse. They just left their agency. See if you can find that.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Owen Benjamin. The curly haired kid. Oh, yeah. He's in it too. Owen Benjamin just put it on his Instagram today because Owen has been taking a lot of heat online because he said that a three-year-old kid shouldn't be fucking transgender and people give him a hard time saying he's a bigot. Like, are you out of your fucking mind?
Starting point is 01:15:22 What's up with this transgender shit going on? Stranger Things actor dropped agent because of sex accused of sexual assault disney star follows suit jesus christ this is nuts watch an open secret and they tell they go through we do they pick they're accusing people it's on it's for free i think on vimeo yeah you can watch it for free on open secrets on youtube or something you know what what Sturgill Simpson told me? He said the same thing exists in music. What? He said in music, there's a bunch of pedos and pederasts in music as well.
Starting point is 01:15:52 The entertainment business all the way through. Music. This is about music and movies and TV. It's about the whole entertainment business. So it's women and kids. Mostly kids. Mostly kids. And sometimes dudes. You know, Terry Crews said that he was attacked. Well, not attacked. Mostly kids. Mostly kids. And sometimes dudes.
Starting point is 01:16:05 You know, Terry Crews said that he was attacked. Well, not attacked. Some dude grabbed his dick. Some dude grabbed his dick in front of his wife. But some famous dude grabbed his dick. You know who else said that? Who was that fucking big time football player that was in that weird movie with John Travolta? Howie Long.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Howie Long said the exact same shit was happening to him. Someone grabbed Howie Long's dick? Guys were coming after Howie Long. Guys were propositioning him, trying to tell him this is what you have to do to make it in the movie business. Like suck dick or fuck girls. You know who else it happened to? Hulk Hogan. Same thing happened to Hulk Hogan.
Starting point is 01:16:34 No way. Yes. Hulk Hogan got molested trying to be in movies? Hulk Hogan got propositioned by a high-level movie person that told him this is how the game is played. And did he do it and make those terrible movies? No, that's why he's not in movies. Or why he's in any good ones. Tell you what, you look at guys who are killing it, super skeptical,
Starting point is 01:16:49 yeah, what did Vin Diesel do? It's coming out now. Shit's coming out now. Donald Sterling, look at these beautiful black bodies. What is that? Something that I heard about before he got in trouble that this is why a lot of players didn't want to play for him because he was known to bring people down in the locker room to look at his players showering and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:17:05 And they were just like super uncomfortable. Jesus Christ. What is wrong with it? Why is everyone so fucking creepy? Why can't people be cool? Be cool, man. But hey, man, my idea about, we go back to the- Watch your kids.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Watch your motherfucking kids. Don't let your kids be around weird fucking agents and take any conditions. No, don't let your kids get into acting. Do not let your kids get into that shit. Has it ever worked out? Well, you know, the other thing is, like, look at what happened with that Sandusky guy. That guy was taking care of kids. Like, his whole thing was like, hey, I do charitable work with children.
Starting point is 01:17:38 You know, I do charitable work, and I take care of these kids. Called it the summer camp. Yeah, I'm just all about helping kids. It's all about helping kids. They're our future. How about Callan with the summer camp guy's dick sucked by a counselor? I think he got jacked off. His friend guy's dick sucked.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Damn. How about that guy? It's funny because it's Callan. I'm not advocating any of this. What's that famous guy? He's a famous dude in the UK who died, and then they found out. What's that guy's name? Jimmy Seville.
Starting point is 01:18:04 That guy. What'd he do that guy was a kid fucker he was super famous yeah super famous for what he had a big talk show
Starting point is 01:18:12 in England and for years he was like Benny Hill yeah that's the guy no shit no shit he fucks kids look at the picture above him look at that picture above
Starting point is 01:18:20 with the red glasses above with the crazy hair one more oh my god if you left your kid alone with that fucking guy you should be slapped imagine that guy Look at that picture above with the red glasses above with the crazy hair one more. Yeah You left your kid alone with that fucking guy you should be slapped imagine that guy putting his dick in your mouth Is there a documentary on him? Yeah. Yeah, what's that called? Cuz holy shit kept this a secret for a long time because this guy was like a a big star over there Look at his motherfucking like a secret kept it a secret? Like the media?
Starting point is 01:18:45 The people that worked with him. Like everyone knew that he was a creep. What about- Louis Theroux. Go back to that? What about law enforcement in the UK? You know what I mean? Louis Theroux's new Jimmy Seville,
Starting point is 01:18:56 Seville, is that how you say it? Seville documentary is a horrible misstep. Oh. I don't know. Louis Theroux is awesome. I doubt that he fucked anything up.
Starting point is 01:19:04 That guy makes some of the best fucking documentaries going. He's a monster. It's probably some... Yeah, someone who's a hater. Exactly. There's a lot of fucking haters out there. Dude, think about that. Think about all the shit that's going on. Donald Cerrone.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Yeah. Yeah, man. There's a lot of Jimmy Savile, Gropes Teenager and newly released Louis Theroux footage ugh powerful shitty have you seen the stuff
Starting point is 01:19:31 that Joe Biden you know Joe Biden the former vice president dude there's videos on him like at the White House and taking pictures with kids dude
Starting point is 01:19:38 yeah looking weird have you seen that dude really haven't seen him have you seen that shit he's like he's groping him and shit I just think he's super awkward those guys run when you're untouchable when there's no way you're going to get busted
Starting point is 01:19:48 for anything, murder, child molestation, dude, you don't give a fuck. You just do it out in the open. I don't give a fuck who you are. You grab my kid anywhere that's not appropriate. There's a lot. He's like, dude, that guy's a sick bastard. It looks like we set earmuffs there and just told our secret. Yeah, I mean, the problem is you taking like a screenshot
Starting point is 01:20:07 I've heard the audio you could hear that what he says to these what's he say creepy ass shit I get like what like do they just he just keep he's taking pictures all these kids and he's just like Just whispering in their ear and oh you're beautiful biography of a big government creep These are stills but there There's video of this. These are stills, but there's actually video of this shit. And this is, by the way, what you're seeing in public, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:31 He don't care. They don't give a shit. Well, it's not that he doesn't care. It's just that's a small version of probably what he's like behind closed doors. If you're a big Hollywood actor, or maybe you're not, and you didn't get sexually harassed, are you pissed off? You're pissed off right now. You know what I'm saying? You're like, what the fuck, man? If you're an actress, and you worked with Harvey Weinstein, and you never't get sexually harassed? Are you pissed off? You're pissed off right now. You know what I'm saying? You're like, what the fuck, man?
Starting point is 01:20:46 If you're an actress and you worked with Harvey Weinstein and you never tried to get him to suck his dick, you're like, what is wrong with me? You ugly. Yeah, you ugly. What the fuck is wrong with my face? They're really going after him. That seems weird.
Starting point is 01:20:58 It doesn't seem weird, dude. Hell yeah, they're going after him. That guy's entire business. Here's the thing. He's one of many. There's got to be like a bunch of people that ran their business that way but weinstein there they say like in hollywood like my agent's like oh no yeah it's about time you got caught i'm like what the fuck everyone knew
Starting point is 01:21:15 this like everyone knew did you see his contract it was in his contract the way he had his contract set up was like they had a certain amount of money that he would have to pay if he had a sexual harassment claim against him. It was a thing for him. Yes. He had so many claims. First offense was $100,000. Second offense was $250,000. Third offense was $750,000.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Fourth offense was a million. He had it written into his fucking contract with Miramax. His contract with the Weinstein company. He owned Miramax, right? I don't know. Explain that contract. Like, he'd have to pay $100,000? Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Yes. They're protecting themselves from sexual harassment. When they sign him, they go, okay, the first time he fucked with one of these guys is going to be $100,000. The second time, it's $200,000.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Holy shit! Yes. That's how big of a problem it was. It was so known of what he would do. And look, even Quentin Tarantino said that he did it to his ex-girlfriend. What? Quentin Tarantino said he knew about it. Yeah, he did it to Mira Sorvina.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Dude, and could Harvey Weinstein get any fucking uglier? He is a shittiest man. He's got a young ass wife. He's so gross. He looks like a troll. No, what he looks like is a sexual predator in a Harvey Weinstein movie. Correct. Like if it was a shitty Lifetime movie.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Like, come on, let's do a little bit on that. That looks unrealistic. He's hideous. I think, you know what? He's so bad looking. Listen, the girls that he's harassing, most of them bitches are fucking trash anyways. You know what I mean? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Here's the thing. Jesus Christ, Eddie. I think they're distracting. What about the kids? Fuck them bitches. What about the kids that's going on? Let's focus on that. Well, I don't think those girls are trash. I think they're just actors. But here's? Fuck them bitches. What about the kids that's going on? I don't think those girls are trash. I think they're just actors.
Starting point is 01:22:47 But here's the question. Here's the problem. This is what Whitney told me. Whitney said- Yes. She knows her shit. She knows her shit. What she said is there's a lot of girls that aren't saying a word because they did fuck
Starting point is 01:22:58 them. Of course. And they fucked them for parts. They fucked them for editing. Of course. They fucked them for a lot of things. That's the rumor. But this is a standard thing that Weinstein would do, and women agreed to it because he
Starting point is 01:23:12 was a powerful motherfucker that could get them the world. Oh, hold up. Make them superstars. However many, whatever, 50 girls are coming out with claims against him, he's probably fucked 5,000 who aren't coming out. I think that's probably a real number. And ridiculously hot girls we all know about. Now, would I suck his dick to be the next Batman?
Starting point is 01:23:30 Yeah, probably, man. Donald Cerrone, Darren Teal. They need to focus on the kids. There we go. Well, that's certainly an issue, but that wasn't the thing with Harvey. It's a way bigger issue than these chicks trying to fuck for parts. You know what I mean? Well, don't you remember Bryan Singer?
Starting point is 01:23:43 Remember that guy who's the X-Men guy? That guy got busted because some 17-year-old boy was saying that he got used by him at a party, and they would pass him around to all their friends, and they had all these boys. What guy? Bryan Singer. From X-Files. No, no, no, X-Men. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 01:23:57 X-Files. I thought you were talking about the guy with X-Files. No, X-Men. Bryan, the director, the famous director. Yeah, that's the guy. He's in the movie, An Open Secret. I'm sure. It's about him.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Hold up. He was just some dude, like gay 17-year-old? The director of X-Men. Here he goes. Look at that. The sad turn behind LA party scene that took down Bryan Singer. Like he would have all these like young boys with him. And there's a picture of them at a pool.
Starting point is 01:24:22 It is fucking hilarious. There's like, look, scroll back up. Look at this picture. Like look a pool. It is fucking hilarious. Scroll back up. Look at this picture. Look at him and all these young boys. That's him on the right? That's him above with the glasses. Or no, the one with the arm wrapped around. He looks like Yellow Bastard from Sin City.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Next to the guy with the glasses. It's him with his arm wrapped around. Oh, gotcha. Wrapped around that boy. He put his hand on the kid's chest. That kid looks like he's all of 16, right? So there's a picture of him at a party that he threw at his place that is hilarious. Where's that picture?
Starting point is 01:24:49 Because the party has all these young twinks in a pool, and the pool's lights are red, like they buttfucked so much that they just bled out, and the whole pool became red. Oh my God, Joe. Look at that. Tell me that doesn't look like that. What the fuck, man? That's Party at Brian's house. Holla.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Jesus Christ. Are they all underage? No, probably not. Well, then nothing's wrong with them if they're not underage. I don't know how many of them were, but some of them apparently were underage. Holy shit. It just seems like- It's a cock fest.
Starting point is 01:25:19 If you're a young boy and you're trying to be an actor in Hollywood or a singer, how are you going to avoid that shit? Look at these fucking parties. All these guys hands on each other. Well, the thing about gay guys, right, is like a lot of gay guys like guys that look younger. They like like cute guys. Twinks. They call them twinks. You don't have a lot of hair.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Twinks Twinks They call him Twinks You don't have a lot of hair Which is really funny Because Andy What the fuck's his name From The guy from
Starting point is 01:25:48 That runs Bravo What's that guy's name Oh Andy Cohen Yeah that guy He got in trouble For saying Twink And he's gay Really
Starting point is 01:25:54 Yeah he's gay as shit He's awesome People are just getting mad At everything Twink is like a Thin Hairless Like
Starting point is 01:26:02 Well groomed Young Skinny and shaped Kid They call him Twins guy sorry Darren Till walking into the octagon
Starting point is 01:26:08 let's actually watch this fight because I get creeped out we all have kids I feel sick after all that talk it makes me sick Jesus Christ man yeah
Starting point is 01:26:16 well Corey Feldman apparently has been talking a lot about it too yeah everyone thought he was crazy well he is crazy but the question is
Starting point is 01:26:24 why is he crazy like is he crazy because he was mol well you know he is crazy but the question is why is he crazy yeah like is he crazy because he was molested i mean he doesn't say he doesn't name names but maybe he will if someone said 80 of kids in hollywood or in the entertainment business have had some kind of run-in with uh someone trying to molest him would you believe it yes 80 yes i would say, I don't know, I don't want to give out crazy numbers. I would say a large number. I wouldn't be surprised by it.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Like the Russian Olympic team? No, I don't think it's that bad. I don't think it's that bad because I think there's legitimate agents, there's legitimate managers and I think Disney has a pretty great record of putting on those kids shows.
Starting point is 01:26:58 But they probably could never get any work. They're probably legit but those ones don't get any work. It just seems like it accelerates, like they just hook each other up and they're just looking for... You're bumming me out. Some of them do.
Starting point is 01:27:08 There's definitely predators that are organized. Definitely. No one ever made any advances at you, Joe? No. Never. Nothing. Not like, hey, come give me a bad breath. I had a comic.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Alex Jones said he got molested in Hollywood. Alex Jones did? Alex Jones talked about that. He was probably roofing himself. Walked into a party. Remember, he was in that movie with Keanu Reeves? Put a camera on me. He was probably roofing himself. Walked into a party. Remember he was in that movie with Keanu Reeves? Put a camera on me.
Starting point is 01:27:28 He was in a movie with Keanu Reeves. Yes, yes. That one animated called Awake or something? Waking Life. Waking Life. Yeah, it was a great movie.
Starting point is 01:27:36 He was in that. He was driving. This was before anybody knew who Alex was and I was friends with him even back then. But they animated him ranting,
Starting point is 01:27:44 driving down the street. See, play some of that. Play some of that. There it is. This is all the involvement of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line. Lay down, GI. Lay down, GI. We saw it all through the 20th century.
Starting point is 01:27:57 And now in the 21st century, it's time to stand up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this rat maze. We should not submit to dehumanization i don't know about you but i'm concerned with what's happening in this world i'm concerned with the structure i'm concerned with the systems of control it's great animation my life and those that seek to control it even more i want freedom that's what i want and that's what you should want it's up to you my favorite all-time Alex Jones clip is when he keeps getting mad and swearing and then he says, I apologize. I shouldn't have said that.
Starting point is 01:28:30 And he just eats a whole compilation of him frequently. So he did that one movie and got molested? Instantly. Even though he was animated, they molested his animated character. Hey, that's what he said on his show. I don't know if it was during that movie. Alex is at least 10% crazy though. You agree, right was during that movie. House is at least 10% crazy, though.
Starting point is 01:28:46 You agree, right? What was that? He's at least 10% crazy. But on the stuff that he reports on Infowars, I would say he's about 85% correct. That's probably a good number. At least 80, right? Like 80%, he's talking about some stuff that's probably legit. Occasionally, he goes off the rails.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Yeah. That hurts him. Yeah, but that's okay. You can't be 100% right. No, but the problem is he's always looking for conspiracies that might not exist. And then people can discredit him because of the misses. We got to take some swings ahead of the home run. You know what?
Starting point is 01:29:16 It's true. You know what? When you're making all these accusations, you know, against criminals, a couple of them are not going to stick, you know, and you might be wrong about a couple of murderers here and there, but they're still murderers. So we should focus on the fact that Alex Jones on InfoWars, if you think that's a fake news station to get, then you've been brainwashed because that's where most of the truth is coming from. It's coming from InfoWars and the mainstream media, the mainstream media is trying to convince
Starting point is 01:29:43 you that InfoWars is 100% fake news when they're the fake news. Bro, my man, Cowboy needs Propecia. Does he? Yeah, a little bit. It looks like he's here saying, see ya, Cowboy. Really? You'll see it.
Starting point is 01:29:55 You'll see it. Wait till you see it. You guys know I love Cowboy. Wait till you see it. I think he just got messed up hair. Sir, wait till you see it. I like the see ya, Cowboy part. I thought that was funny, Brendan.
Starting point is 01:30:05 See ya. Uh, maybe. No one has a receding hairline like that. I do. My shit's way worse. Look at mine. No, it is not, Eddie. I like the new hairstyle you're rocking.
Starting point is 01:30:17 I like that. High fake top. Looks nice, yeah. You look like a guy from Fury. You seen that movie? You caught me freshly haircut I do this all the time But when you see me
Starting point is 01:30:27 It grows out a little bit Right Once every two months I cut my hair We got a big day tomorrow So you gotta cut your hair Hell yeah Hell yeah
Starting point is 01:30:33 I still have You know Denny's doing Combat Jiu Jitsu tomorrow? Oh shit Is he really? Yeah we I put together a special match It's an alternate match
Starting point is 01:30:40 For the four man tournament That Boogeyman's doing Boogeyman is doing Combat Jiu Jitsu Holy shit Think about that shit And then Denny Is fighting another black belt alternate match for the four-man tournament that Boogeyman's doing. Boogeyman is doing combat jiu-jitsu. Holy shit. Think about that shit. And then Denny is fighting another black belt in just an alternate single match, which is going to be like a little super fight.
Starting point is 01:30:53 So let me tell you what Vinny Shorman says about this guy, Darren Till, because Vinny Shorman's very high on him. You know Vinny's a big-time Muay Thai commentator. He knows a lot of shit about Muay Thai. Till's a monster. He said Darren Till was beating men At 15 years of age, went to Romania Won an 8 man tournament
Starting point is 01:31:08 Fought 2 fights with a broken foot at 17 Started training Colin Heron from Kaboom A guy who was a super Thai boxer himself, now a successful MMA Gym, known as Colin for 30 years Top coach, Till's super Determined,ived in Brazil too
Starting point is 01:31:25 And he's a real rags to riches story He got stabbed He had to go to Brazil Because he got stabbed twice This guy right here? Yeah He got stabbed in England He's Brazilian?
Starting point is 01:31:34 In Liverpool His coach was like Yo man if you want to be successful You need to move to Brazil Move to Brazil Why? When I'm defeated there Just because there's so much shit in Liverpool
Starting point is 01:31:41 He got stabbed in Liverpool At a party Because people are so fucking crazy Yeah He's running with a rough cut A lot of stabbings going on I saw a crazy statistic Where the stabbing is through the roof, right?
Starting point is 01:31:51 And no one's banning knives England has a lot of stabbing I'd rather get stabbed than shot Well, if you ban knives How are you going to cut your steak? Alright, here we go Darren Till, Cowboys of Rony Scissors, Joe
Starting point is 01:32:00 Here we go Scissors They're going to start Look how big Till is, first of all. Yeah, Till is legit. He's fucking huge. He's a legit welterweight, and Donald just swung and missed with a leg kick. Donald's a slow starter, man.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Till's got some good – oh, Donald went for the takedown. Till's takedown defense is good. Very good. Till defended. Such a dangerous fight. He could have pulled guard right there. Till's a super high-level kickboxer. You see good distance control already.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Oh, shit. Oh, he just tagged him. He clipped him. Not clean. Did you hear how Till got this? Oh, my God. Oh, Jesus. You got to come forward at Donald if you're going to beat him.
Starting point is 01:32:40 You can't let him sit back and get comfortable. Well, he's a bigger fighter, too. Look up. Oh, shit. Dude. Oh, shit. He just dinged him. This can't let him sit back and get comfortable. Well, he's a bigger fighter, too. Look up. Oh, shit. Dude. Oh, shit. He just dinged him. This is a bad fight for Cowboy. He's got to shoot and pull guard here. Yeah, this is a bad fight for Cowboy. He's got to shoot and pull guard. Oh, my God. He's getting tagged. What else is he going to do?
Starting point is 01:32:55 Cowboy doesn't move his head, man. Cowboy's firing back. Cowboy's not out of it. You've got to remember all the times Cowboy's been in trouble in the past. He's a slow starter, man. Once he gets going, he's trouble. This guy legitimately might be the best striker he's fought. There it is.
Starting point is 01:33:10 There's his chance right here. Jump on his back. Oh, he's got good get-ups. He fought in Brazil, man. You know what I'm saying? He fought in some weird Brazil fights. I'm sure he's been taking down a bunch. Good defense.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Back up to his feet. I don't know anything about this guy. Fuck. I didn't either at first, and I talked shit about him. He lashed out at me. I did my research. I went, oh, fuck. This kid is a big deal.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Oh, are you talking about this main event? Yeah, I was talking shit about him. Good knee to the body by Cowboy. What's his name again? Darren Till. Darren Till. Fascinating story. Powerful Liverpool story.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Here's the thing. Donald has been doing a lot of other shit, too. Hasn't he been doing a movie? A movie, yeah. Oh, we clipped him. TV show, right? Clipped him low. Clipped him in an uppercut there.
Starting point is 01:33:54 And then you got young Till, who's a monster. This is all he's thinking about. It's the biggest opportunity of his life. Nice jab by Till. Looking very good. And good distance control on the feet. How relaxed he is for his first main event is crazy. And he's fucking, I can't get over
Starting point is 01:34:09 how big he is. Oh, dude, he's tuning Cowboy up. And he just doesn't respect Cowboy's striking. His hands are low. Look at how low his hands are. He doesn't really give a shit. Well, you gotta think Cowboy striking is good for MMA. But at the level that, you you know you're talking about like glory or you know lion fight like real high level muay thai guys how far did he go what did he do well darren like i was just saying
Starting point is 01:34:35 one tournament in romania oh fuck that up that is nasty vinnie shorman who's a bit i'm trying to watch this and talk at the same time Vinny Shorman oh that's a good kick to the body by Cowboy Vinny Shorman's very high on this guy he says he's a very legit Muay Thai fighter
Starting point is 01:34:51 like the the people who are in the know in the business are super high on Darren Till super super high and you're seeing it here just from his distance control and his footwork
Starting point is 01:35:00 and movement like every time Cowboy's trying to kick him he's just sliding away he's look at his beautiful right jab too and he's a sliding away. Look at his beautiful right jab, too. And he's a southpaw, too.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Oh, shit. He's landed that straight left, and he's set up, will land that uppercut. He's done that twice to Cowboy. Cowboy keeps ducking down. Cowboy's getting lit up, man. He's getting lit up, and he's not having much success. You know, if you're the UFC, though, and you're looking for, you know, fresh stars and new blood,
Starting point is 01:35:28 this is what you do, isn't it? Yeah, it is what you do. And Cowboy's the guy that will fight anybody, anywhere, flies to fucking Poland to fight this kid. You know, and said, I didn't watch any footage on him. I don't know shit about him. I heard he's a good stand-up. Good, I love to strike.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Which is why we love Cowboy, but it's a double-edged sword, isn't it? Yeah, well, especially when you're a big name. Like, Cowboy's a good stand-up. Good. I love to strike. Which is why we love Cowboy, but it's a double-edged sword, isn't it? Yeah. Well, especially when you're a big name. Cowboy's a huge name. So for Cowboy to fight this guy who is arguably one of the best strikers he's ever fought, and he didn't really look into him much. But it does nothing for Cowboy. So you beat him.
Starting point is 01:35:57 They go, yeah, you beat a guy we've never heard of. You lose to him. Oh, he just got hurt. He just got hurt. Darren just lit him up. This fucking Oh Elbowed him Fuck bro
Starting point is 01:36:06 This kid is fucking Cowboys in big trouble Knees Till Cowboys in big trouble Oh shit This is it That's it
Starting point is 01:36:15 Cowboy just got stopped First round Smashed Ran through What a story Damn He just got ran through I love Cowboy
Starting point is 01:36:24 But what a story We got a new Contender here got ran through. I love Cowboy, but what a story. Contender here at 170. He just ran through Cowboy. Just ran through him. What about him and like literally just smashed Donald Cerrone. Wow. Just smashed him. This guy has the ability to maybe
Starting point is 01:36:38 contend for the belt. 100%. Him and Woodley? Dude, he's only 24. He's 24 with that extensive of a striking. And he just turned into a fucking star, at least in our small group of MMA fans. This is on Fight Pass. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:56 The problem. There might be 40,000 people watching. Us talking about it might hopefully help him out. It might not even be 40,000. I highly doubt it. This is bigger than that. However, watching this. You put a YouTube video doubt it. But this is bigger than that. Like, however, watching this. You put a YouTube video taking a piss gets more views than this.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Oh, we have 40,000 watching on here. Yeah, we're beating them. Yeah, we're beating them. But then when it goes to iTunes. It used to be like 2,000. Remember those days? 1,200, 1,500. But look at that elbow he landed on.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Jesus Christ. Oh, dude, he tuned Cowboy up. I mean, that is just an absolute beating. I hate seeing it for Cowboy. And this is the reason why Cowboy's so big, but then it's also like, fuck you, man, because you're never going to be world champion fighting like this. Well, it's also Cowboy
Starting point is 01:37:36 has had a few of these fights recently. Masvidal beat the shit out of him. The Robbie Lawler fight, his last fight was a rough fight. I don't think Cowboy won that fight, but it was a controversial fight. Yes. Back to the judges. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:48 You know, some people think Cowboy won. I think Cowboy lost that fight 2-1. I think he lost two because especially, like, Robbie really came on strong in that last round. The first round, if you have 10-8, it'd be a draw, but. Cowboy is shaking his head. His nose is smashed. He's lost three in a row, brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:03 That's a rough go when you're Cowboy's age. Lost three in a row, brother. Yeah. That's a rough go when you're Cowboys age. Lost three in a row and just got murked by a young kid. A 24-year-old kid just lit him on fire. 24-year-old stud, though.
Starting point is 01:38:13 At least it's not just some random fucking guy. That's why you don't fight randoms in Poland, though. Right. Plus, he should be at 55. He's a 55er. I mean, he's one of those guys
Starting point is 01:38:21 that went up to 170 like Dos Anjos. Generally, I don't know if you can say that, though. It does work, though. I mean, not that one of those guys that went up to 170 like Dos Anjos. And generally, that doesn't work. I don't know if you can say that, though. It does work, though. I mean, not that often. How often?
Starting point is 01:38:28 Because we were just talking about Kevin Lee. Cowboys kill themselves at 55. But he was dominant at 55, Cowboy. Never championed. He got closer to a belt at 70 than he did 55. Did he? Well, I mean, he lost the belt at 55. This is what we have to worry about.
Starting point is 01:38:43 We have to worry about how the Cowboy show ends. Because Cowboy getting stopped like that in this fight, you've got to wonder how many more of those are we going to see and what toll is that going to take on Cowboy. Because of that style that he has, because of the fact that he's willing to fight anybody, and because of the fact that he spends his money like water. That's the game you play, though.
Starting point is 01:39:03 It's Cowboy. That's the persona he has. You're Cowboy. then once that stops i know that what i'm saying is i know i'm with you gotta worry about how this how this story ends because when you're 34 you don't get younger you just get older but he's still a name so how many more fights will they give him oh look at this look at that that that right-left combo he just landed on him. We should back this up and watch it again because he tuned him up. I'd love to hear what Till's saying. Look at this. Boom.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Oh. That was it right there. That was wicked. Damn. I can't get over how fucking big this kid is, man, for that weight class. Give me some volume, Jamie. He's giving Cowboy a lot of love He's amazing for that as well
Starting point is 01:39:54 Dan Hardy speaks English too He knows what he's saying You know, English, English From England Mike Perry. He'll fuck. Mike Perry will jump in that fucking cage. He will fuck Mike Perry up.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Who is that guy? Mike Perry? Platinum Mike Perry. He's a tough guy. He's a knockout artist. He knocked out Jake Ellenberger. He's a tough guy. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:40:24 He fought out of Joban. Joban outstruck him. Till would piece him up, I think. He's crazy, man. He is crazy, but skill-wise. He's nowhere near Till. He's not even on the same planet. Not even in the same part of the universe.
Starting point is 01:40:41 All he does is really box, yeah. Well, he's an animal. I mean, Mike Perry's a fucking animal. No doubt about it. Animal. Is he English? He's a strong guy. He's got some serious power.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Perry's from here. Perry's from Florida. Yeah. Strong guy with serious power, but he's way outclassed. When he fights a really good striker like Joe Banson with footwork, they just avoid the big shot and just pick him apart. Yeah, but- But if you play that game, he will knock you to fucking Pluto.
Starting point is 01:41:05 This is a different guy, though. This Darren Till, this is a different guy. You know what I wish? Just like Vinny Shorman was saying. You know what I wish? Jamie, where's the remote? Right here. Run that bitch.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Yeah, run that bitch back. Let's watch this again. I wish they would, and obviously they can't because you need the fight on fight pass, but I wish they would air it tomorrow tomorrow on fox sports so you could so till it's like more recognition because how many people are going to see this beat down that's a good question but the thing is like if they air it on fox sports does fox sports own it then how does that work i don't know you do something he's got a brazilian flag with his english flag yeah because he lived there for a while training that's wild eight years i think a while man eight years so
Starting point is 01:41:42 he was like a little kid when he went over. That is so nuts. He's 24 years old, and this motherfucker's already this good. God damn. What's this? Doom! Come on, man. That is so crisp. What show did he come up on?
Starting point is 01:41:56 I don't know. I don't know. It's only going back to this part. Vinny just texted me. He says, I told you he is special. Well, but a lot of odds makers barely had cowboys the favorite cowboys like a minus 120 so there's a reason for it you know yeah the people in the know know till's a fucking monster oh crazy shit man it's interesting called out mike perry after that maybe just wants to get another win but mike perry's not is very high. Is he ranked in Jiu-Jitsu? I don't know. It's a good question.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Take down the fence. He's down in Brazil. Yeah, he was there a long time. He also speaks Portuguese. I'm sure. So have him fight in Brazil. It'd be interesting. Right? Yeah. I think the Brazilians would totally back him. Look at this shit. You could just put up some stuff from your phone.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Let's watch the fight again. I'm trying to rewind it. It won't let me rewind it. Fucking Cowboy's nose is shattered. It won't let you rewind it? I don't think you can. Yeah, you can, but you have to use the remote and click on it and then scroll backwards. Just doing that. Is it because it's streaming?
Starting point is 01:43:05 Yeah, I think so. It's still going on. Yeah, it's still going on. Cowboy's nose looks fucked. It looks fucked. Both nose. I feel for the dude. Yeah, me too. Is it my phone? Yeah, it is my phone.
Starting point is 01:43:20 I love Cowboy. When you take a fight like that, you know? But it's what we're saying. It's like how does that story end? How does anyone's story end? Yeah, but how does this story end is very different than how does the George St. Pierre story end. George St. Pierre retires. Now he's coming back.
Starting point is 01:43:36 He's fighting Bisping. The Cowboy story is different because Cowboy was never the champion, and he loves this rough and tumble life. He loves the fact that he can just get on a flight and fight in Poland and go and kick this young kid's ass. But when it doesn't work out like this, he just made a star. He let a dude become a star off him. For guys like us and people that visit the websites, look at that fucking straight one too, man.
Starting point is 01:44:04 And that elbow in the clinch. He's setting him up with a lot of shit, too, like throwing the straight left, but then turning it into an uppercut. Yeah. Boom! God damn. He dropped it on him, too.
Starting point is 01:44:16 I wish we had another angle of that. Ooh! It's weird, because his fights before this, you would see his stand-up as good, but he was winning by decisions. He won a split decision. He had a draw. Really?
Starting point is 01:44:27 Yeah. What? Maybe. He was knocking people's socks off early on. Maybe Cowboy had a terrible training camp, or maybe the jet lag just fucked him. I think this dude's just realizing he's just that good. I think he's getting comfortable, yeah. He's that good.
Starting point is 01:44:40 He's 24, and he's also realizing. Look, just watching his movement in this. I'm not saying Cowboy had a bad training camp. I'm saying this kid's that good. He's 24, and he's also realizing. Just watching his movement in this. I'm not saying Cowboy had a bad training camp. I'm saying this kid's a motherfucker. The way he landed that uppercut, the way he landed that one-two, that jab left. Mike Perry asking for this fight is like, I guess he's there to support. No, Till called him out. I know.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Which is weird. He just wants to fight him. No, because he's a name. Mike Perry's a name. God, from Cowboy to Perry, though. He just wants to fight him. No, because he's a name. Mike Perry's a name. God, from cowboy to Perry, though. Good fight. Fun fight. Let's him, like, he's going to fight a brawler.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Let's him show his skills. I mean, I would think that's a good fight for him. Look, this dude's just standing in front of him. Great matchup for him. Yeah, it's a great matchup for him. Perry has a fight already, though. Who's he got to fight? I forget, but I'm pretty sure he has a matchup already interesting very interesting
Starting point is 01:45:29 just a difference in the level of technique you know and what till can do he could do everything you know he's not just a guy who just wades in and throws haymakers i mean he's like very very technically proficient but hey look he could look, he could get fucking knocked out. Mike Perry can knock out anybody. You fuck up and you zig when you should have zagged. Oh, there you go. That's a great fight. That's a fucking tough fight for him, too.
Starting point is 01:45:54 That's a great fight. Santiago Ponzinobbio is a beast. Santiago just beat Gunnar Nelson. Yes. It was with a finger poke, but still. Yeah, that was a fucked up finger poke. It was more than one finger poke. Well, he beat him by finger poke. He didn't knock him out that was a fucked up finger poke. It was more than one finger poke. Well, he beat him by finger poke.
Starting point is 01:46:06 He didn't knock him out. He beat him by finger poke. Well, he stopped him. Yeah, the finger pokes were so fucked up. Yeah, so fucked up. And when you see the replay of the finger pokes, you're like, wait a minute. It almost looks like he threw it as a part of his combination. Like four times.
Starting point is 01:46:19 I didn't see that fight. Did Gunner ever get him to the ground? No. Gunner got fucked up early on from the eye pokes. If you don't watch it, like in slow-mo, if you just watch it, oh my? Did Gunner ever get him to the ground? No. Gunner got fucked up early on. From the eye pokes. If you don't watch it, like in slow-mo, if you just watch it, oh my God, Gunner looks like shit. He's getting rocked. What's going on here?
Starting point is 01:46:31 You go back watching slow-mo and it's just eye poke. Poke. Poke. Against the cage. Poke. Motherfucker's doing an uppercut like that. Fucking poked both eyes. Here's the stoppage again.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Ding. Ding. Ding. Oh, man. The elbow already did it. The elbow's the stoppage again. Ding, ding, ding. Oh, man. The elbow already did it. Elbow's what broke his nose. Yeah, everything did it. I mean, he just beat the shit out of him, man.
Starting point is 01:46:51 And Cowboy just crumpled. When was the last time you saw Cowboy do this? I mean, this is like Dos Anjos. Pettis days, maybe? Dos Anjos. Well, Pettis was just a kick to the body. Yeah, but he crumbled. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:47:01 Like it wasn't even a competition. Rough, man. Rough. Heartbreaking. Yeah, fucking real heartbreaker man but for that kid you know that's a god damn great story good kid too and and obviously you got to build stars that's how you do it i mean that fight pass but yes that's what happened right not on fight no that's it's not the way to do it does Does UFC give out the numbers on Fight Pass? Like, do they tell you? Nope.
Starting point is 01:47:26 They don't even tell you? They're like Netflix. No numbers. Smart move, right? Why give it up when you don't have to? You'd give it up if you were killing it. So, okay, let's look at this, man. I mean, shit, dude.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Bisping versus GSP. Now, I'm hearing that that's not selling well. Yeah, from what I've heard, too, it's not doing great. Hmm. That's unfortunate. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Which one's not doing great? GSP?
Starting point is 01:47:55 GSP versus Bisping. It's not doing great. Not like you'd think, no. Here's the thing, though. That's what I feel. If you really stop and think about it it that was four years ago is the last time you fought johnny hendrix the people that are into the ufc now different post ronda rousey and post conor mcgregor like the casual fans post lesnar the hot the hardcore fans like you and i
Starting point is 01:48:16 we're gonna go we're gonna watch that fight for sure like okay i'm gonna see what bisping looks like you know uh fighting a guy like ge St. Pierre who's smaller than him, a guy who's taken four years off. Bisping's got this opportunity to make a shitload of money. And then George, how's George going to look? It's a tough sell. I haven't seen him in four years. It's a tough sell, even for the hardcore fan. No, that's a great fight.
Starting point is 01:48:38 That's a great fight. Bisping and GSB is going to be a great fight. I'm looking forward to it for sure. People keep, even now, people keep, they don't give Bisping the respect. I agree. He keeps winning. He's not going to get it even if he beats GSP. That's the problem.
Starting point is 01:48:52 All right, he took four years off. He might. And he's a seven-year. He might. And it doesn't matter if it doesn't sell two billion. Fuck the dudes, the casual fans. Fuck them. We got enough real UFC fans.
Starting point is 01:49:03 You can't run a business like that, Eddie. No, you don't. I don't care about that. All we care about is the match-ups't run a business like that, Eddie. No, you don't. All we care about is the match-ups. That's a good match-up. No, you don't. The world doesn't work like that. But we don't run the business, so for us, Eddie's right. I agree with Eddie. As long as they're putting these fights on, I think it's a great fight.
Starting point is 01:49:17 I don't care if my aunt watches it. You two would rather watch a GSB who's taken four years off fight for the middleweight title than him fight a guy who's an actual champ at 85 like Whitaker. Yeah, I don't mind. I'm in no hurry. That's not what we're saying. First of all, Whitaker's injured and he can't fight right now.
Starting point is 01:49:32 Whitaker has a pretty serious tear in his knee ligament. So that's one thing. This is also an opportunity for Bisping, who's been in the game forever, to make a shitload of money. I like that. I like Michael. I like the fact that Michael has an opportunity to make a fuckload of money here I like that. I like Michael. I like the fact that Michael has an opportunity to make a fuckload of money here. I like this fight because... So you need it to sell well? No, I don't need
Starting point is 01:49:50 it to sell well, man. Yeah, you do if you want to make... But if you want to make money, it has to sell well. Yeah, but I'm not in the business of selling pay-per-views well. I'm in the business of... I know, brother, but you just said you wanted him to make a lot of money. Well, he's going to make a lot of money either way. He's going to make more money in this fight. I guarantee there's some sort of a guarantee. Pay-per. He's going to make more money in this fight. I guarantee there's some sort of a guarantee.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Pay-per-view points where you make your money. Like your life-changing money is pay-per-view points. Ask Mighty Mouse. Ask John Jones. Ask Conor McGregor. I'm sure. But don't you think that George St. Pierre is at least going to do half a million pay-per-view buys, maybe more? I like to think so.
Starting point is 01:50:21 It would be heartbreaking if he doesn't. I like to think he's going to do at least a half a million, maybe more. I think around 700. This stuff's weirded me out, man. This weird shit that he's doing where they're touching things. He's moving things and touching things with his feet. Have you seen how jacked he looks? He looks jacked.
Starting point is 01:50:36 He looks super swole. What if he pisses hot? I don't think he cares. I think if he's just one and done, he's like, hey, I fought, whatever. I'm gone. See ya. So I did not know. And when you get popped, you get half your money, your win money taken away?
Starting point is 01:50:50 25%. Yeah, they take some of your money. Only 25%, though. Even if you won? Yeah, look at Lesnar. My bad, huh? 25%, there you go. Give me this.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Yeah, I'm very curious about this fight. Very curious. Yeah, listen, I'm balls deep in MMA. I think it's a fun fight. It's not the fight that I'm very curious about this fight. Very curious. Yeah, listen, I'm balls deep in MMA. I think it's a fun fight. It's not the fight that I'm not like farting at the mouth for. It's a lot harder to take people down these days, too. The GSP was taking everyone down five years ago. This means damn tough to take down.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Yeah, it's going to be a little harder. I'm not sure the GSP is going to be able to take people down like he did five years ago. I'm not sure. I'll tell you what, though. I think you're probably right. I think you're probably right. This matchup, it's all right. It's by nowhere near the best fight on the card.
Starting point is 01:51:34 You look at that card, it's a fucking heater. Do you think that's a recent picture of George? No, not at all. No? Not at all. I think it is. You think? He looks a little.
Starting point is 01:51:43 He doesn't look as good? He's a little soft oh that's fair yeah all right a little bit like look we just saw kevin lee he's thicker than a snickers down there yeah jesus christ thick that's that's a johnny hendrickson that bitch kind of heavy like around the middle yeah eating a lot a lot. But there's a big difference between that and Kevin Lee, right? Kevin Lee was jacked. Jacked. When he was on top, that picture of him on top of Tony when he was dropping bombs on him?
Starting point is 01:52:13 Jacked. Jacked. George does not look that good. But then again, if he's clean, which he kind of has to be. Have to be. I think he's 35 now. He's not young. How old is George?
Starting point is 01:52:28 He's 35 now he's not young how old is george i mean he's 35 you can be in great shape at 35 but really it completely helps if you were super active for a long time are we looking at the tip of his dick in that picture what's that all about he has a fat dick if that's so yeah how about why don't you guys photoshop that out please i want to look at it dude he has a fat dick in that picture that's all i can see mike perry here first of all send that fucking jacket in a time machine back to the 80s i think i have that jacket but um crank the volume up in this jamie let's hear what he has to say he's gonna drop some f-bombs i guarantee it good and we gotta sign the paperwork and we're gonna make it happen i'm pretty sure and it's gonna go down i look forward to it but i got work to do first Damn.
Starting point is 01:53:10 He sounds like a rapper. Yeah. Well, he's got a tattoo above his eyebrow. Sounds like he's about to drop some sick beats. Donald. Against Donald Cerrone. Not against the cowboy. That's not the cowboy that wins fights. That was Donald that shows up. And I wasn't happy with Donald's performance. Weren't happy.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Donald was a merc, Perry. Darren didn't get a tough fighter tonight. He got someone who gave up in the first round. But that definitely wasn't the case. You know that that's not what we're going to see. Donald didn't look great like him. This should keep Mike Perry off the microphone from now on. Like, hey, we're going to work on this.
Starting point is 01:53:52 I think he needs a joint limp biscuit. I love it. Enjoying limp biscuit? What does that mean? Well, he sounds like a white rapper. Oh. You're coming to England to face him. That'd be really, really fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:54:02 I mean, the crowd obviously are behind him as well. They're really fired up. Do, do, do, do, do. Do you feel like that win catapulted him up towards the top ten and put him on an even playing field with you? Or do you still feel like you're ahead of him? Mike Perry.
Starting point is 01:54:18 He's got a great record. I'm number 15. I don't know where that puts him on the rankings, but rankings don't matter. They've never mattered since I got here. It's fair. I don't care how hard I hit you with my, but rankings don't matter. They've never mattered since I got here. It's fair. I don't know how hard I hit you with my right and my left hand. He wants to box.
Starting point is 01:54:27 I look forward to any MMA fighter that want to box with me. Santiago Ponzinibbio is going to be the first example of that. The dude to his right, what's that guy's name? The guy with the bow tie? I don't know, but he seems scared. He seems scared to say anything. This makes me uncomfortable. You've got to have a focus on Ponzinibbio. He's a very dangerous fighter. This makes me uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Dum-dum-dum-dum-dum. Mike Pele looks mad at the world. Focus on the things, the aspects of Santiago's game and do what I got to do to focus on him and beat him. And very similar styles in Darren Till and Santiago. What's that face? Very similar style. I mean, not similar at all, sir. I guess they both throw punches, correct? I look forward to it, man. I can't wait to do it.
Starting point is 01:55:22 And I look to skyrocket myself off this kid's undefeated record. I'm ready to take that O from that boy. It's weird talking about that fight when you have a huge fight. Be careful what you wish for. Be careful what you wish for. Look at him rocking back and forth very emotional. I like him. Very intense.
Starting point is 01:55:39 That motherfucker hits hard. Hits like a Mack truck. He hits hard. Yeah, he reminds me a lot of Lineker. He's just a fucking nightmare if you get hit by him. But if you can avoid it, it's an easy game plan. That Jake Ellenberger fight, man. When he caught Jake with that big fucking elbow.
Starting point is 01:55:55 Dude, but that November 4th guard. First of all, Cody Garbrandt, Dillashaw. Fucking ridiculous fight. Very, very interesting fight. Ioana Rose. Ridiculous. That's ridiculous. Dude, Wonderboy Masvidal. Fuck you. Love it very interesting fight. Joanna Rose. Ridiculous. That's ridiculous. Dude, Wonderboy Masvidal.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Fuck you. Love it. Love it. Love it. Then the big rig's back. Big rig's back. He got rid of the steakhouse. He might make weight.
Starting point is 01:56:15 I can't promise you, but he's back. He's at Jackson's now. Nah. That's like moving to Florida when you're older. That's like moving to Florida when you're older. That's just what people do when they get older. It's like retiring. I'll be like, I'll try out Jackson. Let's go to Albuquerque.
Starting point is 01:56:33 I'm going to try a real camp. Yeah, let's try this out. It was interesting listening to what Johnny Hendricks was saying about training in Texas. He was like, I got to be careful when I spar with people because if I go too hard, then they won't come back. Who am I training with? Dude, you've got to find a real camp. Yeah, what? Any camp I've ever been to, you go too hard, you get fucked up.
Starting point is 01:56:51 Go to AKA and let me know how that goes. Well, that's what he was saying. He was saying, finally, I can go to Jackson's and I'm getting pushed. He's like, where I am in Texas, I'm just not getting pushed. But he left that team takedown. Remember, they had some gnarly dudes there. He left them. There was a lot of shit going on with that, though.
Starting point is 01:57:06 You know how that worked. Yeah. He had a weird deal. They had like 20% of all the shit. Yeah. They took, like, they gave him a salary, and then they took like half his money. But the thing is, the guy put a lot of money into everything. So I see his perspective, too.
Starting point is 01:57:21 It's like they put together a training facility. They hired all these coaches. They had all this stuff going on. They paid for everything. They gave them a salary. And then when it came time for that investment to pay off, they wanted half the money. And I don't know how they worked it out. If you're Johnny Hendrickson, you're a national champion from Oklahoma State,
Starting point is 01:57:41 and someone's like, hey, eventually we're going to take 50%. You're like, fuck you man right well I think what happened was you know once he started getting that world championship money you know that's probably when he was like hey then he opened the Big Rick Steakhouse which god bless him that's the problem
Starting point is 01:57:57 that's the bigger problem opening a restaurant is like notoriously one of the worst investments you could ever make restaurants and gyms celebrities go under. Gyms are bad, right? But gyms don't have the same kind of overhead that a restaurant does. And the dynamics of a restaurant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:11 They just don't go well. And if you get a couple of bad reviews, you don't bounce back. Game over, son. Unless it's a Mexican restaurant, you don't have to have a clean restaurant if it's Mexican food. You're not making money.
Starting point is 01:58:20 You don't have to be nice. Remember when we show up to El Torito? What was that place on Fairfax? Is up to El Torito? What was that place on Fairfax? Is it not El Torito? What is that place? Los Benitos. Benitos. Benitos.
Starting point is 01:58:32 You show up, and it's like a little taco shop, and there's a Mexican guy in the back. He's making a burrito. And you say, hey. And he looks over. And you go, hey, can I get two carne asadas? And the guy just kind of looks at you, and he waves at you, or kind of just nods at you. And you're like, cool, this is get two carne asadas? And the guy just kind of looks at you and he's like waves at you.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Or he kind of just nods at you. And you're like, cool, this is going to be a great place. If that was a white guy that did that, they'd be shut down. If it's good, I'll put up with it. I think it's so good. I don't give a fuck. Bonito's is 24 hours a day. What is it, on Beverly? On Beverly and Fairfax.
Starting point is 01:58:58 God damn, I'm hungry now. It's so good. You can call me Cracker and make my burrito. It's so good. That place is off the charts good. Yeah, and it's a 24-hour joint, so it's like a late night after-comedy store. I'll post-make that shit. Chicken burrito stop.
Starting point is 01:59:11 People don't care. Woo! You'll go there at 1 o'clock in the morning. You might wait 20 minutes in line because it's a big-ass line. There's a Mexican restaurant in the valley. They closed down for a week because they got shut down for rodent infestation. It was in the newspaper and everything. My wife sent me the link.
Starting point is 01:59:27 As soon as they reopened, we were waiting in line, like Backstreet Boys tickets or something. You know what I mean? We were just, we don't care. We ate there yesterday. We don't give a shit. They closed down the kitchen because they had too many rodents. If it's good food, too, I'll put up with it, man.
Starting point is 01:59:42 I'll put up with a lot of stuff. And Chinese food, same thing. They don't have to be nice. You know, when you go to Chinese food and there's a big group of you guys, they're like mean and shit. And no one cares. If it's authentic. But if it's white, oh, you can't.
Starting point is 01:59:57 White, you got to be high. Yeah. Of course. You have to be really nice if you're white. You know what I need to get back to? There's a fucking Thai place that Rob came and took me to in Thai town. You know where Thai town is? I guess it's on Hollywood or Sunset or Hollywood?
Starting point is 02:00:12 Hollywood. Hollywood, when you go east, if you go east on Hollywood, there's a whole section of, you know where it's from? It's right across the street from Jumbo's Clown Room. You know that strip club, Jumbo's? That's where everybody always makes fun of it. I don't know anything about strip clubs. Yeah, I hear you. Me neither, but that's what I hear.
Starting point is 02:00:29 But it's right across the street, and it's like legit late night Thai food. So good. I fucking love Thai food, man. So good. Legit. I know you've eaten there, Eddie. I know we've eaten there together. On Hollywood Boulevard? Oh, you mean Toy? No, not that place. That's on Sunset. talking about you're talking about that's a good spot too well
Starting point is 02:00:48 you're talking which one what street is way further down on hollywood yeah it's on hollywood uh thai patio maybe it's on the right hand side hollywood boulevard on the north side you know what it is you know how you go down hollywood and it goes you almost have like that arch that you pass through that takes you into like th town Arch? Isn't there an arch? Am I imagining shit? Arch in the Thai town sounds awesome That's the one with the yellow
Starting point is 02:01:15 Look at this This chick wants to be black This is the chick from Mori Povich Get the fuck out of here Mori Povich Look at them titties There's video of this What? This is the chick from Morrie Povich that Eddie was talking about earlier. Get the fuck out of here. Morrie Povich. Fuck her wannabe black. Look at them titties. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 02:01:27 Is that real? There's video of this. Can you play a video clip of this? Oh my God. And this is so... What a non sequitur, by the way. Jamie just pulled up this fake black woman. Jamie said, fuck your time with the giant titties.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Look at this. Give me some volume. Look at this. Does she talk black? Yes. The Morrie Povich show, Can You Change Your Race? He's still killing it. He's like quietly making millions.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Now, at this age, Martina desperately wanted to look like Pamela Anderson. Okay, fair enough. So after 10 years and several cosmetic surgeries, Martina transformed her looks into this. But she wasn't done. The crowd needs to chill. Six months ago, Martina made worldwide headlines with her most shocking
Starting point is 02:02:11 transformation yet to chemical injections and body modification. Martina now considers herself a black woman. Look at the black guy. It's an all black crowd? Yeah, it's an all black crowd. I wanted to look like a Barbie. Oh, she's not American. I wanted to create a more beautiful body.
Starting point is 02:02:33 Look at that. Like a Barbie with long blonde hairs and long legs, but much bigger breasts. Martina began to dream about having plastic surgery to look like her idol, Pamela Anderson. Oh my God, this bitch is crazy. Bitch, you look nothing like her. Look at those fucking basketballs. That's what you're doing. Well, the teeth make sense.
Starting point is 02:02:55 Wow. Whoa. In 2012, I got very... These are the biggest titties I've ever seen. They're so stupid looking. Chester's sitting down. Very the biggest titties I've ever seen. They're so stupid looking just to sit down Thousands of dollars on plastic surgery Martina was ready for her most shocking What's now and the brown owner of a black skin today
Starting point is 02:03:29 She is To be fair Her hair do you think that's just skinned the fake tan did this went over didn't did a lot of fake? I've never seen a fake tan there. She come look at her look at those stupid tits those tits are so distracted preposterous god we are sick does she use the n word i mean i've heard of people doing fake things on mori before tricking them just making up a story so hold on but those tits can't be fake what is she saying hold on maybe they can be like myself but I also like to do photos.
Starting point is 02:04:07 But on the photos, I can see if you have the curves of Pamela Anderson, the photos would be much more better. So you wanted to look like Pamela Anderson because you liked her curves. Yeah. And so then you became what you thought was Pamela Anderson. A little bit more. But now. Could that be a fake little fake tit thing that goes over her shoulders and her arms?
Starting point is 02:04:30 That's how they do it in movies. Yeah. It could be. It sure doesn't look like it. What does it say on her neck? Black. Black souls rock. Black gods rock.
Starting point is 02:04:39 Black souls rock. Black girls rock. Oh, girls. I got porcelain on my knees, on my knees. I get my first little. Whoa, look at that. It's so dark. Girls rock? Oh, girls. Whoa, look at that. It's so dark. I want to see her boyfriend. She's single as fuck, son.
Starting point is 02:04:58 She has seven cats. Can we fast forward to the boyfriend? Maybe there's a boyfriend in there. No, there's no boyfriend. Are you sure? There's no boyfriend. Here's what she says Maybe there's a boyfriend in there No there's no boyfriend Are you sure There's no What she says There's no boyfriend
Starting point is 02:05:09 No boyfriend shown his face Shit What the fuck Yep Oh no no no Oh no I have to learn a lot i know you have to learn a lot yeah i see her skin is black yeah but you're not a black person but here's the thing all people came from africa originally like the only reason why people have white skin at all is because we moved to colder climates it was more cloudy and we didn't have vitamin D. So you're basically like a solar panel for vitamin D.
Starting point is 02:05:47 That's what white people are. That's why people in England are so fucking pale because it's always raining. And that's exactly what it is. Like everyone came from Africa. All human beings came from Africa. So she's not really black because that's not really her natural skin color.
Starting point is 02:06:02 Dude, that is the greatest thing you've ever said for mankind. She's not black for a lot of reasons. It's a giant problem that people have with this idea of race. Like the only reason why people look different is because we move to different climates. Like everyone comes out of the same thing. Sort of like all dogs come from wolves. All humans come from Africa. All of them.
Starting point is 02:06:23 Everybody originated there. That's the motherland. So the only reason why they look different than you is because of natural selection, because the people that live there, you know, you're obviously you need that melon in your skin to protect you from the sun. That's how people evolved.
Starting point is 02:06:38 And then as soon as people started going to all these colder climates and all these climates that have a lot of cloud cover, the people's bodies started changing. And their bodies started changing to try to absorb more vitamin D. That's exactly why people have white skin. Can they take hyenas and breed them to be like miniatures? They could, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 02:06:57 I saw a guy with a pet hyena. You know, they did it with foxes. They've done it with foxes and taken foxes and really quickly, within 10 years, turned them into a completely different thing with a weak jaw and floppy ears. To be pets? Yeah. Well, what they did was they took foxes and when they had a fox that exhibited any aggression at all, they killed it. And so then they would breed them again and then any fox that showed any aggression at all killed it
Starting point is 02:07:25 and then they kept doing this and they were doing this generation after generation to try to see how many generations it would take to turn a fox into like a really docile sort of house pet sort of a deal stupid study it's not stupid because it's fascinating to find out how long it takes because we thought it would take like hundreds of years for an animal to change it's essentially its appearance like it's its physical appearance is very different than a regular fox change their coloration change how their ears their ears don't stick up anymore they flop down and show submissiveness same with dogs right like all dogs come from wolves in the original wolves um the people kept as pets they would just get closer they're the ones who got closer to the people by the campfire.
Starting point is 02:08:06 The people would feed those wolves. And then they would use those wolves to alert them that other animals were coming nearby. The wolves stayed close to the campfire because the wolves knew that people were going to give them food. Then the wolves started protecting those people because that's where their food source was. And the people worked out this relationship with wolves. What country? This is the human race before there was countries. Forever ago.
Starting point is 02:08:26 This is probably, you know, we're talking more than 10,000 years ago. But the fox study was how long ago? Very recently. I think it was in Russia. I think that's where they did this fox study. Yeah, we're not doing that in America. You're not killing all those foxes. Was it in the 1950s?
Starting point is 02:08:36 Yeah, I got the article here. And so it's a ruthless study. But they found out pretty quickly that you can select. You can change the way these things look based on which ones you breed with which ones. And you've got to think, when people migrated out of Africa and they moved across Asia and moved through the Bering Strait and into North America, I mean, they're dealing with brutal cold. A lot of times they're completely covered up because it's so fucking cold. Look at that.
Starting point is 02:09:01 Foxes are more naturally stubborn than dogs. Little cutie face. They're very playful, those little guys. Even in the wild. I love a fox as a pet. You ever see Grizzly Man with a dude made friends with a fox? Like a wild fox in Grizzly Man. Like stole his hat and was playing with him.
Starting point is 02:09:16 Grizzly Man's the guy that died, right? Yeah. Yeah. He got fucked up. How about those flying foxes? What the fuck is up with that? Flying squirrels, you mean? Are they flying squirrels?
Starting point is 02:09:24 There's no flying foxes. I think there's flying foxes. Really? No? up with that? Flying squirrels, you mean? Are they flying squirrels? There's no flying foxes. I think there's flying foxes. Really? No? I know there's flying squirrels. There's these weird, gigantic, fox-looking, vulture, bat things in Australia that just hang out in the city. They're just like in the city.
Starting point is 02:09:36 You can just see them in there. They're scary, but there's- I think it's just a kind of bat. It's a bat. Oh, yeah. They have like a fox face. Yeah. They look like foxes.
Starting point is 02:09:42 Yeah. I know what you're talking about. They're scary as fuck, and they're just like right there in the city. Those things are sweet. Australia is so radical. My friend Adam Greentree was sending me videos he took of these saltwater crocodiles. Whoa. Is that a regular bat? Australian flying foxes.
Starting point is 02:09:53 It's just some flying foxes. Yes. Bro, that is a flying fox. Yeah. You're right. How crazy is that? Is it actually a flying fox, or is that what they call a bat? That's what they call it.
Starting point is 02:10:01 Everything is flying foxes. Look at it. It looks just like a fox. It's a fox with wings. Come on. Look at that shit. That is fucking insane. it. Everything says flying foxes. Look at it. It looks just like a fox. It's a fox with wings. Come on. Look at that shit. That is fucking insane. Those are just in Sydney, just hanging on the tree.
Starting point is 02:10:09 That thing is sick. That is insane. Well, you know how we always look at pterodactyls? You know how we look at pterodactyls and we always assume that they have wings like a bat? That's what everybody always thought. But now they're finding out that so many dinosaurs had feathers that it's entirely possible that pterodactyls were birds.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Didn't they think the T-Rex were covered in feathers too, right? It's very possible. There's not a lot of evidence. Sounds silly. It's scary. Well, there's definitely evidence that some dinosaurs had feathers. They found fossilized dinosaurs with feathers. But this is all recently.
Starting point is 02:10:39 Over the last few decades, they're starting to find more and more of them. There's a museum that I went to in Montana, and they mocked out a velociraptor with feathers because look, birds, like you look at like an owl, that's a fucking dinosaur, man. They're the closest thing to a dinosaur, right? Closest thing to a dinosaur. They're ruthless, dude. Did I tell you about the fucking, the wars that I'm having in my backyard? With what?
Starting point is 02:11:00 Dude, there's fox war, not fox wars, There's hawk wars going on in my yard. Hawk wars? They're killing each other. The hawks? The hawks? The hawks? The hawks? Birds are killing other birds and they behead them.
Starting point is 02:11:10 So I started going online and reading about it and they eat their head. And I'm like, what the fuck eats a hawk's head? Well, apparently when birds of prey will kill other birds, one of the things they do is eat their head. They eat the head. They pull the head off. To show like dominance? I don't know, man. I don't know what's going on but jesus christ but one of my neighbors
Starting point is 02:11:28 saw um a hawk eating a hawk baby like right up the street from me and i watched these hawks like swoop down and one of them slammed into my chicken coop like there's like these juvenile hawks and i think one of the things that's going on is i have a fence in my backyard And it's we just put up a glass fence and these birds just fucking we've marked like 15 birds Dude, why'd you put a glass fence? It looks beautiful. You see the whole view with these birds They don't understand that it's a fence and they swoop down so you clang and they get K the fuck. Oh Just had trauma Video camera security a lot of wasted footage You should have a video camera, a little security camera. You know, a lot of wasted footage because it only happens like once a month.
Starting point is 02:12:09 But it's happened quite a few times where birds have flown down. We found them just like drunk, wandering around the backyard. CT'd up. Just hammered, CT'd the fuck up. Blood coming out of their nose. Like I found them with blood coming out of their nose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:26 They get KO'd. So I think we've killed a bunch of hawks this way. Hawks have died. We haven't killed them. They killed themselves. Yeah. Evolution, bitch. But these other hawks, these juvenile hawks are now like kind of taken over because of
Starting point is 02:12:41 that. And I think one of the ones that got killed, one of the hawks that got killed, look at that fucker. Look at that. He's eating a bird. He decapitated a hawk. Yeah, there it is. He's decapitating a hawk.
Starting point is 02:12:51 Jesus Christ. God, they are fucking monsters. Dude, they're so ruthless. Owls are so goddamn ruthless. They look so cool, don't they? They do look cool, but it's weird that we've made these things out to be these wise, cute creatures that give a hoot, don't pollute. The Tootsie Roll Pops.
Starting point is 02:13:09 Yeah. The Tootsie Roll Pops guys. There's owls everywhere. They're ruthless, man. Dude, I've never seen an owl in person. They're fucking straight up predators. Really? What do you mean everywhere?
Starting point is 02:13:17 I see them all the time. Oh, look at this bird. The bird's trying to get away. Like, not today, bitch. Birds are fucking scary. Not today. Today I will hold you and eat your head. So I found a decapitated bird in my yard, and I posted a picture of it on Instagram,
Starting point is 02:13:35 and then I started reading up on it. Apparently it's when birds kill other birds, they'll do that. They literally bite their fucking head off. Is it like a territory war thing, like a gang thing? I think when these birds... My theory, it's a shitty theory because I'm not really qualified to have a theory on this, but I think that these birds slamming into that fence
Starting point is 02:13:54 and a few of them dying have kind of upset the gang situation in my neighborhood. Bird fullers? Yeah. Dude. Owls are so ruthless. And they ain't shit compared to eagles. Bird fullers Yeah Dude Owls are so ruthless And they ain't shit compared to eagles Eagles are the most ruthless
Starting point is 02:14:11 Have you ever seen those harpy eagles? Are they huge? Giant They're just How big? Giant Huge There's an eagle right there
Starting point is 02:14:19 They kill monkeys They go after monkeys And they eat a lot of What are those little slow things? Sloths. Who eats a fucking sloth, man? Harpy eagles. That's fucked up. Google harpy eagles eat sloths.
Starting point is 02:14:32 I think Thursday was official sloth day, if you're a sloth fan. I think harpy eagles are the biggest eagles in the world. I'm pretty sure. That thing is jacked. Oh yeah, they're ruthless. Look at this motherfucker swoops down what about vultures man they're big they're big they're the scariest ah no because they're not
Starting point is 02:14:51 predators like that sloth is a goner that's a bummer that's a rat i like a sloth man but nature just made them like real easy to eat but they really don't get fucked with though oh they do they're not out in the open are they when? But when they are, they get jacked. They're so goddamn slow. These harpy eagles, they eat monkeys like crazy. They swoop down and jack monkeys. And one of the things they found on ancient primate skulls, they found all
Starting point is 02:15:15 these weird scratches and all this evidence of predation. And now they think that that... Ooh, he's like, come on, bitch. He's doing his little left and right. Now they think that that, ooh, he's like, come on, bitch, what's up? He's doing his little left and right. Now they think that that scratching is probably some sort of an ancient eagle that was preying on ancient
Starting point is 02:15:31 hominids. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Birds are a real problem. I like how they filmed this and put this and edited this together. Come on, man. Yeah, it's not like it happened like this. It's all taken in different years. Yeah, but you gotta like suspend disbelief just to watch them jack a monkey. Dude, what's the
Starting point is 02:15:48 big ass bird that grabs the goats and drops them from the mountainside? Those are golden eagles. You ever seen that shit? Falcons? They grab goats, son. Muslim guys with falcons. Falconry, yeah. They use them to hunt. They hunt rabbits and shit with them.
Starting point is 02:16:03 I'm talking about that bird that picks up a straight up goat, flies them up and like, have fun, my man. Boom. I'm pretty sure those are golden eagles. Yeah, golden eagles hunt goats. Those are big goats. I think those are the biggest eagles in North America. Those are big ass eagles.
Starting point is 02:16:16 Look at that shit. Worst way to die, period. Yeah, they grab these goats and they're like, come with me, bitch. Like, cool, man. They just drag them down. All they're doing is dragging them down. And the goats sometimes drag the eagles down, too. The eagle takes a hit, too.
Starting point is 02:16:29 Then they get him up. Look at that. See ya. Dude, that's so rough. See ya. Dude. Boom. And then the eagles are like, ooh, dinner.
Starting point is 02:16:36 Nature is a motherfucker. Nature's so ruthless. That whole video's a bad motherfucker. And then you're kind of out of it. Then he starts eating your asshole. I don't think you're kind of out of it. Dude, how long did he have to wait for that to happen? I know, right?
Starting point is 02:16:49 With the camera? Whoa. That was, he caught it perfect. I know. That's a ruthless fucking bird. Unless they bring the eagles. They drug him up. Look, look.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Like chum in the water. They build Cosby up, those goats. They get them all hungry and shit. Yeah, let the eagles loose. Let them loose. Open the cage. There we go. Get the shit. Yeah, let the eagles loose. Let them loose. Open the cage. There we go. Get the camera.
Starting point is 02:17:07 I got to change the lens. The battery's dead. Oh, man. Have you ever seen them ones that they use in Mongolia where they chase down wolves? Oh, is that it right here? Yeah. They're foxes. Oh.
Starting point is 02:17:19 Well, they use foxes and even wolves. But they train these golden eagles. That's a big fucking bird. Look how big that bird is. And they put a GoPro on the bird's head. Holy shit. And they sent the bird down. The bird just put the whack down on these poor foxes.
Starting point is 02:17:32 And they eat the foxes or they're just doing it for the coats? They kill them. Oh, the people? I don't think they eat them. They might. You know, apparently some trappers and pioneers were big on eating eagles. Or not eagles. Wolves.
Starting point is 02:17:45 They ate a lot of wolves. Like some famous trappers, like wolves were their favorite food. Whatever that lady's Eskimo or whatever, she is stressed out that this thing's not going to catch it. I think that's just what she looks like. She's living a hard life, son. Look at that. Look at the fucking fox trying to fight back. The fox trying to fight back and those claws are just fucking your life up.
Starting point is 02:18:06 It's a vice grip. Oh, he's going to get that beak involved soon on that neck. I think they'd have to put the chase in later. Like train foxes and have them running and shit. Is that bitch holding a whistle? I think that is exactly what it is. Yeah. That fox put up a decent fight.
Starting point is 02:18:23 The wolf one is even more disturbing oh the fox is trying man he's trying but he's just getting we got ourselves a fight here yeah well not really because the fox can't even bite him they're so smart they just grab a hold of him birds stress me out man it's just weird they figured out how to train these things man when you call your eagle stand against the wind oh that makes sense so the eagle can hear you you want to win if you saw if you saw one of those things coming right at you what strike would you use that overhand knife strike i would just come over i think you got a grapple with an eagle you come out with the problem is if you get your arms i don't think if you hit them they're they're not heavy enough
Starting point is 02:18:59 for it to make like a lot of impact when you hit them you know i'm saying it's not like you're hitting a dog right if you punch a dog in the face, a dog weighs 70 pounds, they're there. Boom. What's the stance you're getting? You see it coming. You have your arms out. Hands outstretched like this.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Hands out like this. Peep it. Grab the feet. Like a movie Time Fighter, right? Yeah. Boom. I'm trying to grab shit, and I'm trying to tear it apart.
Starting point is 02:19:19 I'm trying to Rampage Jackson. I'm trying to get my feet on its dick, and I'm trying to pull them legs apart. Yes. Yeah. Yes. I'm trying to make some Kentucky Fried Chicken with some drumsticks. Yeah I'm trying to pull them legs apart. Yes. I'm trying to make some Kentucky Fried Chicken. Some drumsticks. Yeah, you got to pull those legs apart.
Starting point is 02:19:30 You got to slam his fucking head into the ground. He's going to land on your arms, right? You're like this. He lands on your arms. You're giving him that. You're getting tore up. Maybe you give him one arm. You give him one arm like this.
Starting point is 02:19:39 Maybe you take your shirt off and wrap that bitch around your arm. This is the way I'd stand up. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Bitch. That's it. Yeah. Wash. Yeah. Bitch. That's it.
Starting point is 02:19:48 Yeah, and you got to grab them talons. You got to grab the feet. I don't think they attack with the beak as much as they attack with the talons and eat with the beak. They come feet first. Yeah. Like this. Like when they catch a salmon. How are they going to get around this? Think about how powerful they are.
Starting point is 02:19:59 What if you had to grab a salmon? What if a salmon is in the river? You got to reach in and grab with your hands. Not a chance. They swoop down and fly with it. They snatch it out of the water and fly away with a salmon.
Starting point is 02:20:10 If you had long ass nails, you'd probably be able to grab them too. Birds are gnarly as shit. You'd have to have some serious talons. They're also not very cuddly. They're cunts.
Starting point is 02:20:19 Yeah. They're fucking evil. Why would you have to pet a bird? Any like tribal cultures that let their nails grow and they sharpen them and they use them as like weapons
Starting point is 02:20:26 in war? We have bitch nails. Our nails fall apart. You know, our nails fall apart if you get them slammed in a door. Maybe because we don't use them.
Starting point is 02:20:33 Maybe they're supposed to be baby nails. Well, we don't really need a claws. Oh, that guy just caught a salmon? Maybe we're supposed to have claws. That guy's a beast.
Starting point is 02:20:39 I mean, that's that water, the two-inch water. Yeah, this is different, man. These things are... And look how long his nails are. He's gonna eat it too? Yeah. He's gonna bite into that thing? with, this is different, man. These things are... And look how long his nails are. He's going to eat it, too?
Starting point is 02:20:45 Yeah. He's just going to bite into that thing? He's going to catch salmon with bare hands and eat it raw. Ooh. You're not supposed to really eat salmon sushi, even, because some of them have parasites. I ate the shit out of it. It's not smart. I feel great.
Starting point is 02:20:57 You can get parasites. I feel great. This guy's going to eat it raw. Yeah. Well, a lot of people do. But when you talk to people that want to play it safe, they say you shouldn't eat anything that's freshwater. Don't eat freshwater fish raw.
Starting point is 02:21:09 Well, this guy begs the differ. You think it's gross, but do you like sushi? You don't eat sushi. You don't like sushi? Yo, Eddie's got the... I used to go... When Eddie and I would go to restaurants, I used to lose my fucking mind because Eddie's like, no cilantro.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Super picky. No onions. That's how Calendly is. That's how Brian is. Nice and simple. I don't eat all that shit. If the meat's good, why do, no onions. That's how Calendars, that's how Brian is. Nice and simple. I don't need all that shit. If the meat's good, why do I need onions and shit on it? Give me some good meat.
Starting point is 02:21:30 The best is going to Fogo with him, though. Then there's no bullshit. You just get the meat. Flip that bitch over. God, when's the last time you went to Fogo to chow? We went in Vegas. We chowed it up. Pecania.
Starting point is 02:21:41 We gained like fucking 10 pounds. God damn, we feasted. Sounds nice. Oh, so good. I hadn't been there inanya. We gained like fucking 10 pounds. Goddamn. We feasted. Sounds nice. Oh, so good. I hadn't been there in forever. We had a good time. Well, you don't really have, I was going to say munchies, but when you get high, I mean, you get high so much, it probably doesn't fuck with you.
Starting point is 02:21:55 I never got the munchies from pot, man. Pot never, no. I mean, I get hungry like normal, but pot was, it never gave me munchies. Because now you're off pot, your diet's easier. It die makes food tastes way better though. That's for sure does Yeah, you smoking a little bit. I mean I do too and night. Yeah, do you use it to write? No, you don't write No, you should try to write. It's done. Yeah, since you're doing stand-up. You should definitely write high. Yeah, dude That's that dude. That's why you know what what i do though i do both i write sober and i write high i do both and sometimes i listen to george carlin talk about that once he was saying
Starting point is 02:22:29 that he likes to write sober and then he touches everything up punches it up when he's high well that makes sense yeah like smoke a little weed and then go over the material back there what's funny about it yeah yeah i like both man i like writing writing sober and writing high but when i write high it's like I just get these gifts. It's like the universe gives you these gifts. You're like, where is this even coming from? But is it funny, too, when you're high and then you look back over and when you're sober, you're like, oh, what the fuck was I thinking?
Starting point is 02:22:54 Oh, it was definitely that. I used to have a bit about it. I literally wrote down, a unicorn is a donkey from the future. And then I went down and looked at my notes. I'm like, what the fuck does that even mean? Exactly. It's fucking hilarious. This is what it is
Starting point is 02:23:05 probably something funny thing about it that you didn't write down exactly and you forgot i was so high but i wrote it down and then i went over it after the fact i was like what the fuck is wrong with me yeah i wrote that down i've written a bunch of shit down like i have to every now and then because a lot of what i write down if i I'm high, I'll write down some shit at the comedy store or something like that. And then I have to go over my notes when I'm sober. I'm like, eh. Are you doing it on your phone? Are you doing it on your phone or are you doing it physically?
Starting point is 02:23:33 Well, I always write physically, like with a computer. And then I write notes. Wait, physically with a computer? What does that mean? Physically with a computer? Okay. Like physically write. I thought physically was like with a pen and paper.
Starting point is 02:23:47 No, but this is probably the wrong way to say it, but I have three stages, right? I write with a computer, but then I write things down on paper. Like if I have to do a set, I write a set list out with paper. I'm really interested in this new Samsung, man. The Samsung Note 8? Yeah, because the Note 8, you write on the lock screen. You don't even have to open up an application.
Starting point is 02:24:08 I like that. You write on the lock screen, and you write it with a pen. You could write like 100 pages of notes just on the lock screen, and you could save them. Have you seen that shit? Mm-mm. Why doesn't Apple do that shit? They'll jump on it. No, Samsung's got it, man.
Starting point is 02:24:22 Apple gets sued left and right for patents. They got sued for these new animated emojis that are coming out with on the iPhone X, X, whatever it is. See, my phone's so fucking rough right now, I need one. What year are you at? I'm at the 7 Plus. But look, it's horrible. It's awful. My wife got the 8.
Starting point is 02:24:40 It's the shit. Is it nice? It looks just like this, but the camera's way better. The camera's wicked. And you can get it right now. But the thing about the new one, the X, the X is weird, man, because it doesn't have a fingerprint thing where you open it. You open it with your mug.
Starting point is 02:24:56 With your face? You stare at it. I don't like that. And it opens. Oh, my God. That's almost too much for me. Someone just get your phone and just do this. Hey, what's up, man?
Starting point is 02:25:02 I like your face. You can go get the 8 right now? The 8. Yes. yes you get the eight right now i need to get that bitch tomorrow the eight is basically this phone but way better yeah it's the exact same this is a seven but the eight is the exact same phone it has like all the state but i'll tell you what man my phone has been fucking up lately you have the old one right yeah mine too apple does on purpose go get that new one bitch they do i know it says you need an update i'll do the update because they play those games they drop that bug so my phone's fucked and as soon as you update then you're fucked you're fucked i held it off for a while
Starting point is 02:25:33 oh i'm going super strong i'm going super strong my phone not only is it freeze but now when i like say if you sent me a text like today it happened you sent me a text saying which door should i go into and i replied to you. And then I went to look at my phone and there was no place to reply. It didn't exist. I couldn't pull it up. So I went, I hit the home button and then I reopened the text messages back to the same thing. So I had to physically like swipe up and close out the text message program and then start it up again just to
Starting point is 02:26:05 get a dialogue where I could like press, you know, the keys in. Yeah, that's thin. You wouldn't let me press the keys in. That's Apple telling you to get a new phone. That happens to me too. You need yourself an iPhone 8. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:14 I think I'm at the six still. I don't even know what this is. Damn, man. That's the three. Jamie, see if you could pull up a video on the Samsung Galaxy Note 8. This Galaxy Note 8 has got me very, I'm very curious. But there's a bunch of things that Apple does that keeps you on the tit. Yes.
Starting point is 02:26:31 One of them is that AirDrop. I've been anti-Apple forever. The ones I went to, it's so easy, man. It's pretty easy. It's so easy. What, the AirDrop? Yeah. AirDrop is pretty good.
Starting point is 02:26:39 Where do you use that? I use it all the time. For what? Like if we made a video right here, I would AirDrop it to you. Because you can't text it because the file is so big. If you airdrop it, it just comes right there. Instead of it texting, it just goes through Bluetooth because you're near me and it sends it to you in full. So this is it right here.
Starting point is 02:26:54 This is the Galaxy Note 8. It's fucking huge and it's all screen. They have a little bit of room for like the speakers on it, but the screen is gigantic. Oh, I like that. And they pull that pen out. That pen is so dope, dude. It lets you do all kinds of shit. Like if someone sends you a picture, you could highlight things with that pen.
Starting point is 02:27:10 Dude, you're selling the fuck out of me right now. I'm in the market. You could write notes with your hand. See, this to me is big because then I don't have to take a notebook with me. I don't need an iPad or anything like that. Yeah, you write it. Like, look at this. This guy wants to highlight some shit.
Starting point is 02:27:24 Look, you could translate things. God damn. Like if it's in another country, like do that and boom, you write it. Like, look at this. This guy wants to highlight some shit. Look, you could translate things. God damn. Like, if it's in another country, like, do that, and boom, it translates shit for you. It charges wirelessly. Yeah, look at how much spokesbone
Starting point is 02:27:33 from the Galaxy. Look at that. Ooh. But Joe, how does it work? If I went from the Apple phone to that, does all my shit transfer over or no? Yeah, sort of. The problem is,
Starting point is 02:27:43 the real problem, I tried it with the Google Pixel just for shits and giggles. The real, look at that. Like, he's writing notes with that thing? for over or no yeah sort of the problem is the real problem i tried it with the google pips pixel just for shits and giggles the real look at that like he's writing notes with that thing come on son on the lock screen the real problem is uh i messages so like say if someone's like used to sending you i messages you send them my messages it doesn't want to send you a text it wants it wants to continue to send i messages and it takes a long time to switch over. I actually called up Apple, and I said, I want you to remove me from the iMessage database.
Starting point is 02:28:12 Like, remove my email from iMessage. Remove me. And they said, why? And I said, because I got a Google phone. They said, why did you do that? I said, that's none of your business, bitch. Remove me, motherfucker. So they removed me from the iMessage database, and it still wouldn't work.
Starting point is 02:28:25 I mean, it would work half the time. That's kind of a bummer. That's a deal breaker for me. All the people that had Android phones all worked great. Yeah, but how many people have Android phones? I know a few people that have Android phones. None of my friends. Ian Edwards has one.
Starting point is 02:28:39 Steve Rinella has one. I have a few friends that have Androids. Rami Warren has one. But the majority don't, so you're going to have some issues. Yeah, and you don't get – I get sad when I see green text. I like blue. Me too. It bums me out when I get green.
Starting point is 02:28:52 I'm like, oh, fuck, man. I'm like, he's got one of them phones. I judge people. People do judge people. Somebody, some comedian had a bit about it, I think. Really? I think that's cool. You know, hooking up with a girl and you know she's broke when you get a green text from her.
Starting point is 02:29:04 Or a broke screen. Like someone, ah, dude, your phone bums me out. I had a friend say, ah, your phone bums me out, man. Because it's broken? The screen's all broke. My case is all jiggity. I like that. It means you're living your life.
Starting point is 02:29:14 Yeah, you're right. The only thing that's cool about the green text is the person you're texting with doesn't see that you're texting. Yeah, the bubble. Yeah. Sometimes you're like you know that you're texting and sometimes the bubble yeah sometimes you're not writing anything you're just reviewing the text your conversation trying to figure out how you and they think that you're writing something and then they they then you see that they're
Starting point is 02:29:33 writing something then they stop like oh they're not sure they're not sure how to reply that i did i've done that to my wife where i'm about to text something then I don't and then she'll say why were you thinking about something and then you change your mind what were you thinking about like I wasn't thinking about that you were thinking about something
Starting point is 02:29:55 you were about to write some shit and then it turned off what were you thinking tell me what were you thinking I'm like I was gonna say I love you so much. I was going to use the kissy emoji, but I decided no, it's not appropriate for this
Starting point is 02:30:10 I took off the thing where it says red. Oh, yeah. I was just going to say that. That's a bad. You might have that on there. What? When you get a text message, if you look at it and you send the thing, like if you look at it, that person knows you looked at it.
Starting point is 02:30:23 Yeah, if you opened it up. No, it says red. I don't like that. It says. Yeah, if you opened it up. I don't like that. It says red. I don't like that shit. I don't like that shit. Maybe I'm busy, man. Sometimes I never, it's like if someone texts me,
Starting point is 02:30:31 I might just go straight to the text, you know, just to see like what their message is because I don't have time. Right. You know, you don't have time for everybody. It's also fucked up though.
Starting point is 02:30:39 The other day, I got 39 text messages. I counted them. From a psycho or a bunch of people? No, in the day, 39. I can't keep up with all that. 39 different people. I counted them. From a psycho or a bunch of people? No, in the day. 39. I can't keep up with all that. You can't. 39 different people text messaged me.
Starting point is 02:30:49 Is my job just replying to texts? That's a bummer. Because if that's my job, then I have to sit down and just, and then people just go, hey, what's up? Like those don't get a reply. Hey, what's up? What's up? Call me.
Starting point is 02:31:00 It's either my family or answer a non-question yeah maybe i'll get back to that like for me it's like right now i gotta answer these and i'll try to catch up to those you go to one you you lock yourself away doing a podcast for three hours you're gonna have a million messages you don't have time to you got to get in your car this is one of the few times that i guarantee that i'm not going to communicate with anybody any other way so one of the few times like doing a podcast, that's one of the cool things about these kind of conversations. This is the only way we have these conversations. I agree. Even if we're eating dinner, we don't have these kind of conversations.
Starting point is 02:31:35 You're distracted with something else. You're distracted. You're checking your phone. There's a lot of shit going on. The art of conversation is lost on a lot of people. One of the ways we practice it is by doing these Podcast yeah, this is like a real hangout. Yeah Your phones are off. Yes. Have you had anyone come here try to keep on stay on their phone? Yes, get the Russell Peters cannot leave his phone alone. I can't be on the show that he cannot leave his phone alone So I was gonna Come on Russell He's always like, yeah, yeah. Oh, no. So I was going to. No, hell no.
Starting point is 02:32:05 Hold on. I go, Russell. Come on, Russell. Everybody's here. We're right here. A million people are listening. Hey, but it is. You know what?
Starting point is 02:32:13 That's a bummer. Everyone's got a phone. Everyone's got a phone. And everyone's got a lot of work to do on the goddamn phone. It's nice to be able to hang out with somebody. And you're like, let's just get on our phones together. And we'll talk every now and then. And I'll show you a video. And we're cool. And we're not offending anybody.
Starting point is 02:32:26 Everyone's just on your phone. There's nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. It's all Andrew's fault. You know what I mean? It's like we got business. I want to hang out with you, but I got to do business and we could talk when there's something to talk about,
Starting point is 02:32:37 but then I got to handle some shit. For sure. Don't you notice from doing a lot of podcasts how if you have conversations with some people, some people are just not really listening to you. Not in podcasts, but in the real world. You get good at this. You do podcasts a lot, so you're really good at having conversations.
Starting point is 02:32:53 But when you go out in the real world and have conversations with people, there's motherfuckers that just aren't listening. They're just talking. They're talking at you. They're not even responding to what you're saying. They're just thinking about what they want to get done in their agenda. They're in a different conversation in a text. They're like texting someone else in some serious business and they're like, uh-huh.
Starting point is 02:33:10 No, no. I mean when you're having a conversation with someone and they're not even tuned into what you're saying. There's a lot of people that are just bad at talking. Bad communicators. And those people are bad at podcasts. Every now and then I'll get one of those people on a podcast. Are you even here with me?
Starting point is 02:33:23 Yeah. Are you listening to me? It's work. Yeah, it's work. Because you're constantly trying to come up. Constantly. And you're trying to bring them in. Trying to get them to hook on something.
Starting point is 02:33:33 Trying to get them to go to a store. Connect with me. Please connect. Come back. Oh, it's exhausting. And what's a bummer, too, is the audience feels it. Oh, yeah. Because they're like, oh, this guy sucks.
Starting point is 02:33:42 Dude, yeah. I've talked to people after I had someone on. They go, hey, that guy something was off, right? Yeah, it was a little off, wasn't it? He's like, it seemed like he was on some drugs or something. That's another thing I'm finding is how many fucking people are on speed. Really? What? Adderall. Where?
Starting point is 02:33:58 Well, that's not technically meth. It's not crystal meth. Adderall is meth. It does the same thing. But when you're on Adderall is meth. It really is like... It does the same thing. No, it does the same thing. But when you're on Adderall, you're like, you got a prescription. You don't feel like you're a meth head. There's a difference between...
Starting point is 02:34:12 You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. There's a difference between the... People on Adderall still have their teeth. For a while. Not all of them. Before we started the show, this is the same guy who told me caffeine is bad for you. You told me caffeine is the same thing as Coke.
Starting point is 02:34:25 Well, he's not doing it at all. Caffeine is a cousin of Coke. They're in the same – caffeine, they're in the same – unless – I mean, this was mainstream information, so maybe I'm wrong. It's a stimulant. It's a stimulant. But it's like – because they used to put Coke in Coca-Cola, right? Yes. No, but they still use coca leaves to make the flavor. Do you know that cocaine, like the number one provider of medical cocaine is Coca-Cola?
Starting point is 02:34:51 Do you know how this works? Coca-Cola buys coca leaves. They have like coca leaves that you would get cocaine from. That's the flavor. It's secret to the flavor of Coca-Cola. Shit's delicious. Delicious. That's Coke flavored soda.
Starting point is 02:35:02 It's just better than Pepsi. Coca-Cola forgets. It's just better than Pepsi. It really is. It's just better. It's the best. In a can? Forget it. That aluminum soda it's just better than pepsi cola forget it's just better than pepsi it really is it's just best in a can forget that it's just better oh yeah it's in your blocks i love it you get the mexican sugar i love that shit but the way they make it is with coca leaves they extract the cocaine from the coca leaves and the company that extracts the cocaine from those coca leaves they sell it to like they use it as medical cocaine escobar enterprises it's fucking crazy man it's crazy that's medical cocaine medical cocaine damn when are they going to legalize that well medical cocaine they use
Starting point is 02:35:34 for surgeries and shit what if you could do medical cocaine you can snort things down numbs things like like locally without like you know instead of like novocaine novocaine by the way related to cocaine lidocaine lidocaine i had that shit when i had my nose fixed they put the lidocaine how many doctors are taking this uh medical cocaine and and doing crazy things with it do you remember joel wallach you think dead doctors don't lie you turn me on to that yeah you turn me on to that what was he a coke head no he was a doctor was into minerals. He was talking to you about how it's weird that people who are veterinarians know that if you have livestock, you have to supplement the minerals in the livestock. But people don't think about mineral deficiencies in food when you talk about people that have
Starting point is 02:36:17 a regular diet, especially when they don't have a vegetable-rich diet. Yeah, with animals, with livestock, you don't have a health insurance. So you got to, they know, farmers livestock, you don't have a health insurance. So you gotta, they know farmers know you gotta give them these minerals. Otherwise your livestock is going to be shit. So there's no, but when it comes to humans, we don't look at it the same way,
Starting point is 02:36:34 but you know, you know, a lot of people do. They understand the importance of minerals, minerals now. But Joel Wallach, one of the things he was talking about is how we put all our faith in doctors when it comes to to health, but how
Starting point is 02:36:45 little education doctors actually have in nutrition, and then how many doctors are doing drugs? How many doctors are like... The ones I know. Free pills? You think they have access to all that you don't think they have? What are they doing?
Starting point is 02:37:01 What's going on? The ones that I've heard of that I've hung out with, I mean, they party hard, man. They have access to a lot of stuff. They make a lot of money. They're party hard. They're people. Coke. Smart.
Starting point is 02:37:13 Yes. Coke. Goddamn cocaine. What is that? Adderall. Amphetamine. Amphetamine, aspartate. Yeah, it's fucking amphetamine.
Starting point is 02:37:25 And Joe, you're saying people that come on here are on it? 100%. I've had a bunch of people that I've asked, just flat out asked them. Because they're just going. Yeah, but they talk so fast and there's so much going on. I'm like, there's no way this guy isn't on speed. And then it'll come out later in the conversation that they're on Adderall. That they take Adderall, they have a prescription.
Starting point is 02:37:43 They're always like, well, I have ADD. Oh, it's that ADD. I got ADD too, motherfucker. I can go get a prescription. Have you ever taken Adderall? No. I took it and didn't shut the fuck up. But I couldn't focus on anything. I took it in college to write a paper, and someone come in like, hey, how's the pizza?
Starting point is 02:37:59 And I'd go on a fucking rant about pizza. I got nothing done. That's like speed. Yeah. Speed is supposed to be good for organizing, though. And growing up, I was, you know me. What's the downsides of batter on speed? You lose your teeth?
Starting point is 02:38:14 Well, it's not just that. I think your heart is just like overworked. Too many beats. I think it freaks you out. Fast pounding or uneven heartbeats, pain or burning when you urinate. That's banging chicks that are on speed. Taking more than usual feelings of extreme happiness or sadness, tremors, hallucinations, unusual behavior, or motor tics.
Starting point is 02:38:36 Dangerously high blood. High blood what? Not terrible. Let's be real. Not awful. Well, see, there is a lot of people that are on this stuff on a daily basis. Dangerously high blood pressure, severe headache, buzzing in your ears, anxiety. Talking more than usual.
Starting point is 02:38:54 There's a lot of people that are on this. A lot. Like, there's... And entertainment. Let's take it, not just entertainment, journalism. Journalism is a big one. This guy who was in here, who's a professor, actually told me that he knows so many fucking journalists. And then I started asking journalists
Starting point is 02:39:07 and they confirmed it with me. Like, yeah, everybody's on it. And I go, everybody? He goes, everybody I know that's a successful journalist has taken Adderall. I go, why? He goes, because you've got deadlines, you can work, you don't get tired, you get things done, you focus. He goes, you've got like laser beam focus. I go, how many of them are abusing it? He goes, they're all abusing it.
Starting point is 02:39:24 Damn. It's like steroids for writing. Yeah, right? He goes, they're all abusing it. Damn. It's like steroids for writing. Yeah, right? PDs for writing. So let me ask you this. If you had to guess, what's the number of prescriptions every year for Adderall in the United States? Let's guess.
Starting point is 02:39:35 You'll say that again? The number of prescriptions every year for Adderall in the United States. I have to know what the prescriptions are. I'm going to say 5 million. I'm going with 30 million. 30? I was going to say 20 to 30 million. Yeah. I'm going to say $5 million. I'm going with $30 million. $30? I was going to say $20 to $30 million. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:47 I'm going high. How many people are on it right now? How many people are on Adderall? See, they don't do it that way. They write prescriptions written. So say if you get three months worth, you might use it four times in a year. So you would be four. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:01 So let's find out. I'm saying $30. I'm going to go $20. $20. I'm going. I'm saying 30. I'm going to go 20. 20. I'm going to say a little lower. I'm going to say five. Well, knowing what I said, you're still going to go with five? Five, Eddie?
Starting point is 02:40:11 Come on. 10. 10. It's peer pressure, bro. Don't give in. I'm going to go with 10. Stick with five. What do we got?
Starting point is 02:40:18 The best I could find is from 2012. And it says roughly 16 million Adderall prescriptions are written for adults between 20 and 39. That's pretty good for 2012. However, that's five years ago. Adults doesn't include kids, which a lot of kids took it in school and then into college and are now those probably reporters that I'm talking about. It's about 20. Five years ago, those kids are 20 now, right?
Starting point is 02:40:40 They could be 15, now they're 20. Yeah, this only started with age 20, so kids that were in high school were 16, 17, 18. They don't have updated statistics? I just tried to type in 2016, and this is an article from 2016 using these stats. Interesting. Very interesting. It's crazy, because it is speed,
Starting point is 02:40:58 and you can get it prescribed to you. All you have to do is say, oh, I just can't focus, I'm tired all the time, I just don't know what to do. Okay. They just write your speed. Wouldn't it help you in writing, too? Really, everything. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:41:10 Some people say it doesn't help you creatively because you're so like, that it's better for organizing things and moving your notes together. Painting your house. Like the late, great Robert Schimmel. Do you know who Robert Schimmel was? Stand-up comedian. Hilarious. Dear friend hilarious dear friend great guy died a few years back um he accidentally took adderall he uh was he thought he was he had actually had a heart attack and um he went to try to he thought he was taking his heart medication he took the wrong shit he took
Starting point is 02:41:41 someone else's adderall called his his doctor, and he's like, what do I do? He goes, how much did you take? And he looks at the bottle, tells him the dose. He goes, you're going to be fine.
Starting point is 02:41:50 He goes, you're just going to be up for a while and you're going to be very speedy. And so he just said, I just organized my notes. He said, I just got in front of my computer
Starting point is 02:41:58 and I couldn't stop organizing. Just going over my notes and just pulling out pages after pages and writing things down. Jesus Christ. He said, I've never been more focused in my life he was I'm scared to try it again I wonder what's like working out on it a lot of people work out on it we had a lady in here recently who said she works out on
Starting point is 02:42:15 it so she gets pumped I goes nuts I bet you know when I was 19 when I was 19 there was this 23 year old heavy metal chick who had some speed, and she was hot at the time. And we did it a little bit, and my dick was so goddamn small. And she was determined to blow it up. She was determined. Such a dick? I kept saying, I'm sorry, it won't work. It doesn't work. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 02:42:45 Because of speed. And she goes, don't worry. I got all day. And she just went on forever. And she did eventually resurrect it. God bless her. Wow. It was wicked.
Starting point is 02:42:55 That's the fucking speed made her want to suck that dick all day long. She was determined. She had a heart. No way was she going to give up. No. Imagine how long it would take. Imagine. When you do speed, your dick does not work.
Starting point is 02:43:10 Really? It just shrinks up. Shrinks up? Yeah. Whoa. That's not good. No, don't fuck this up. It's terrible.
Starting point is 02:43:17 I don't recommend it to anybody. It was terrible. I was young. I was 19. She was hot. A lot of pool players used to take speed. They said it helped their game. They'd take a bunch of different kinds of speed.
Starting point is 02:43:30 To focus on the ball? Yeah. Pools are very intense focus and tiny adjustments you're making. You've got to really concentrate on the angles and what you're trying to accomplish. It's a very mentally taxing game when you're gambling. So a lot of these guys, they gamble for like 10, 12-hour sessions. Here's a question for your Golden Snitch friend. If I have a prescription for Adderall, can I fight in the UFC?
Starting point is 02:43:54 No. What if I have a real deficit? Crazy Tim Crater actually got pulled from a card because he had a real deficit, and he was on Adderall. They pulled him from a card way back in the day. This was like Ultimate Fighter days when he was off the Ultimate Fighter. When he was the Wild West. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:44:12 Adderall, the new drug of choice of many major leaguers. Wow. Meaning baseball, though. No, but look, this is football, you're saying. That's weird they're showing that. That's just a weird video. Yeah, baseball, I've always heard they fuck with Adderall nonstop. Adderall is legal and easily obtainable but also dangerous if abused use in major league
Starting point is 02:44:29 has reached absurd level baseball that's absurd dangers have used but yeah but the thing is like also if you use it you might be the best fucking baseball player alive and make a kajillion dollars it does provide you with energy that you wouldn't normally have. It's cheating, says Dr. Richard Lustberg, New York State licensed psychologist and member of the American Psychological Association. Yeah, baseball. You try to make money.
Starting point is 02:44:58 Yeah, it's weird. You've got 15 years to make money in baseball. I'm injecting Adderall into my veins if I'm baseball. You're shooting it right into my dick. Right, my turkey baster. Correct. Why'm shooting it right into my dick. Right, in my dick hole. With a turkey baster. Correct. Why not?
Starting point is 02:45:08 Correct. You're trying to get paid. But in fighting, if you legit have a problem, yeah. But what is that problem? See, that's the problem. It's never been clearly defined to me. I've talked to a bunch of psychologists and psychiatrists about it. I'm like, what is ADHD?
Starting point is 02:45:21 I'm like, how do you define it? And you define it by a series of characteristics that people have. But you could just say you have those. I mean, you could complain about all sorts of things that are on the list. It's not like they test you. Like, oh, you have syphilis. There's no blood type. Hey, man, let me test you.
Starting point is 02:45:38 Oh, yeah, bro, you got a disease. It's not like that. You guys are older than me, but even when I was a kid, if you were distracted and couldn't sit still, you just think he has a lot of energy, needs to play or go outside more. No one was fucking taking medication. UFC exec, Frank Meir was not denied an Adderall therapeutic use exemption by Nevada Athletic Commission. So what did he say? So he got one.
Starting point is 02:46:03 So he got one. Interesting. For Adderall. He was granted one by USADA. That's interesting because maybe Tim Crater could have been granted it. But it was public. I'm not saying anything that people don't know about. They were all talking about it at the time.
Starting point is 02:46:21 You know what? I think that for the people who really need it, this has got to be very frustrating to see people use it and abuse it. I told Brian Callen, I was like, you have ADD like I've never seen before. You think so? But he's all over the place. And he was like, oh, for sure I have ADD. He went to a doctor.
Starting point is 02:46:38 The doctor was like, nah, you're good. Really? Yeah, the doctor was like, you don't have it. He's not on Adderall? I told him to fire his doctor. Brian's not on Adderall? No, he's on nothing. He played it wrong. He's on life. Fitzall? I told him to fire his doctor. Brian's not on Adderall? No, he's on nothing. He played it wrong.
Starting point is 02:46:46 He's on life. Fitzsimmons is on it. Brian didn't want it. He was on, actually, he's on Ritalin. Fitzsimmons is on Ritalin. What's the difference? I don't know. Speed.
Starting point is 02:46:53 It's speedy. He did the podcast the other day, and his knee was like, he does a lot of this. Like tapping on stuff? He does a lot of movement. He's constantly moving a lot. And someone asked him on Twitter, what's that about? And he's like, Ritalin. Weird.
Starting point is 02:47:06 Yeah. And he just wanted on this to talk fast and for his podcast. No, no, no. He's been on it because he is legitimately, he has legitimate ADD, which whatever the fuck that is. Yeah, I was going to say, we don't know what legitimate ADD means. Okay. Let's, excuse me, let's define it.
Starting point is 02:47:23 Like, let's try to see if someone has a definition. What is legitimate ADHD? What do you think it it is what do you guys think it is i think it's someone who can't focus on fucking anything and they're distracted by everything well it's also yeah there's definitely that it's also patterns and patterns of like behavior that you develop in your life but there's also probably people that have a legitimate disease there's legitimately something wrong with their brain the question is how many people legitimately have something wrong versus how many people are just abusing it cuz it's just assholes yeah they just want to use speed get all that energy and get fired up is it possible is there any chance maybe in some cases
Starting point is 02:47:58 ADD or some kind of brain dysfunction is caused by the vaccines maybe? Is there a possibility that it's a vaccine? Who knows? Oh, you're taking it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. There's definitely side effects to almost every medication that you take for certain
Starting point is 02:48:13 people. Adult attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, ADHD, is a mental health disorder that includes a combination of persistent problems such as difficulty paying attention, Brian Callen, hyperactivity, Brian Callen, impulsive behavior, Brian Callen, adult ADHD can lead to unstable relationships, Brian Callen, poor work or school performance, Brian Callen, and low self-esteem. Not Brian Callen. Not Brian Callen. The doctor went, no, you don't have low self-esteem.
Starting point is 02:48:41 Can't give it to you, bro. And other problems. What are the other problems? We don't even want to talk about those. And other problems. What are the other problems? We don't even want to talk about those. And other problems. Be specific, motherfucker. This is a medical diagnosis. But if you read that, that's basically every kid you've ever met.
Starting point is 02:48:53 Yeah. Well, here's the problem. Ever. You get kids. Kids are filled with energy and they want to play and they want to have fun. But they don't want to sit there. They don't want to be stimulated. They don't want to sit there and fucking listen to your shit.
Starting point is 02:49:02 Yeah. Talk. They sit in some uncomfortable bullshit plastic chair, listen to some monotone asshole who's teaching them nonsense they don't give a fuck about. We're doing the schooling wrong. It's not the kid's issue. I think that's a big part of it.
Starting point is 02:49:14 But parents want to give it to their kids because they just want their kids to pay attention. You know, I had a neighbor who got their kid on Ritalin. There was nothing wrong with this kid. He got the kid on Ritalin. He was just like this all day. Stupid parents. He was just like this all day. Stupid parents. He was just like.
Starting point is 02:49:26 Fuck, focused as fuck, though. He just listened. Hey, focused as fuck. He just listened. Probably killing video games, too. Probably, right. Just kick you, kick you, kick you. Get him in front of Madden.
Starting point is 02:49:34 Hell yeah. Just fucking killing everybody. Running plays on bitches. Yeah. Yeah. Probably didn't have a lot of friends, though. It's definitely dangerous how many people are medicated. But the real question is how many people actually could use the medication versus how many people are medicated
Starting point is 02:49:46 because doctors are cunts. I'd like to meet someone really who has that problem, who really has ADD and figure it out. How about some of them kids were seriously abused as kids and they just come out and they're all just fucked up. That's definitely a possibility. A lot of abuse going on. Well, there's also like emotional abuse.
Starting point is 02:50:04 People just yell at their kids beat their kids there's kids that people get ignored kids don't have friends people grow up with parents that are just assholes and they're just their whole life is like they're constantly walking on eggshells they're all fucked up psychologically because of it it's a bummer man yeah it's a bummer dude you hear i can't read horrible stories but i read some story about some guy in texas that he's his three-year-old daughter wouldn't drink her milk. So he made her stand outside by a tree and she disappeared. Brother.
Starting point is 02:50:30 He went back out 15 minutes and she was gone. And the police went looking for her. They can't find her. She disappeared. Did you hear in the interview what he said? What he said? He goes, yeah, I put her out there. And they go, what do you think happened?
Starting point is 02:50:40 He goes, there's been a lot of sighting of coyotes in the area. And they're like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Coyotes? I read that. I read that exact article. I couldn't sleep that night, man. I could not stop thinking about it. It has to do with kids.
Starting point is 02:50:52 It fucks my world up. Oh, hell yeah. You left a three-year-old outside. Because she wouldn't finish her milk. And she has a disability. Oh, my God. She has a disability. She wouldn't finish her milk at like one in the morning.
Starting point is 02:51:02 Coyote ate his kid. So this fucking moron, who they've already taken the other kid away. It was one in the morning? One in the morning. Oh, my God. Wouldn't finish her milk. So this moron puts out a at like 1 in the morning. So this fucking moron who they've already taken the other kid away. It was 1 in the morning? 1 in the morning. Oh, my God. When it finished her milk. So this moron puts out a tree at 2 in the morning. And then they've already, child custody already came, took one of the kids away before.
Starting point is 02:51:14 Oh, my God. It's. People suck, man. So almost like, definitely that kid got eaten by a coyote. I'm not a violent guy, but that guy, I would fuck up for free. Yeah, that guy doesn't need to be alive. That guy should be tortured. That guy should be tortured. The fact that he could do that to a baby. The fuck is wrong with you, man? fuck up for free. Yeah, that guy doesn't need to be alive. That guy should be tortured.
Starting point is 02:51:25 The fact that he could do that to a baby, a three-year-old, and his own daughter. And I think about that. I think of my kid. I think how scared he'd be by the tree. It fucks my world up, man. So missing Todd. She's still missing, right? There's no update on that.
Starting point is 02:51:37 No. They never found her. She probably got eaten. That guy deserves the death penalty. Near coyotes. Jesus Christ. Meanwhile, he probably killed her. He made that story up.
Starting point is 02:51:47 You might be right. You might be right, Eddie. You might be right. You might have. That guy deserves the death penalty. Where's the proof? The story. That sounds like, hey, I got to tell him something.
Starting point is 02:51:55 He did it either way. Yeah, exactly. If he just left her outside, if he knew there's coyotes around, he's asking his kid to get eaten by a coyote. He might have wanted the kid to get eaten by a coyote. Because he's a bad person. Because he's a piece of shit. Raising a kid tests you.
Starting point is 02:52:09 There's some people that are just fucked in the head. Damn, we shouldn't end on this. We definitely shouldn't. What else you guys got? Let's not end on that bullshit. It's sad. I know. Too much sadness, man.
Starting point is 02:52:19 There's a lot of sadness, my man. A lot of good shit, too. Yeah. There's a lot of great shit in the world, but God damn, there's a lot of fucking morons. Yeah, that'll fuck your day up. And you can't, the thing is, you can't fix them. Like, a guy like that, like, once a guy does that to his daughter, what do you, you know, you're not fixing that guy.
Starting point is 02:52:38 That guy's dead. Think about that guy has friends, too. And if he's like, how was your night last night? Oh, my fucking kid wouldn't finish his bottle, so I left outside what who the fuck do you hang out with who else are you hanging out with where you can talk like that everyone thinks it's all good you know the thing is like you can't forgive someone for that no you have to kill them what how do you forgive someone for doing that to a baby like if someone beats a baby to death, there's no returning from that. You got to torture them.
Starting point is 02:53:09 And then people go, it's a mental illness. You got to publicly torture them, publicly. But is that really good? Does that fix anything? Does it like? Yeah, it'll scare people. Well, there's the bigger picture and people go, listen, it's a mental illness issue. So we need to fix them.
Starting point is 02:53:23 And it's like. Yeah, the mental illness issue is a weird to fix them and it's like yeah the mental illness issue is a weird one because i saw something about huff post had something about pedophiles and they eventually took it down i think but this guy was saying i'm not a monster i'm a pedophile and he's basically saying that he has these thoughts he just doesn't act on them and everybody was like what holy fuck what the fuck are you what they say that for everything right for if you if you rape kids if you're a child molester, if you shoot people, it's a mental illness. The real child molesters are running this planet.
Starting point is 02:53:53 Those are the ones. You open the door. Fucked up. Those are the real ones. Do you hear that Donald Trump's going to open up the JFK dump? How about that? All the dump of documents from the JFK that had been sealed up by all the other presidents, like the JFK assassination investigation, they sealed some documents up because they're too sensitive. I know.
Starting point is 02:54:11 Whatever those documents are. Why wouldn't they shred those documents? I don't know. Why would damning documents exist? Because these are people from 1962. Also, Trump for sure focused on something else than this. Well, hey, this is not a bad thing to focus on. There's so many other things we could focus on, but I hear you.
Starting point is 02:54:29 Yeah, for sure. But first of all, no one really can be president. Let's be honest. There's not a single person that could focus on the economy and health care and international relations and the environment. There's no way. There's people who could do a better job, though. Yes, for sure. But there's not enough time in the world to focus on any of those things.
Starting point is 02:54:45 You know what he should focus on? Donald Trump should focus on the Vegas shooting. He hasn't said shit about it. That's how we're ending it. You know what I mean? You think there was some shady shit going on? But here's the thing about this Kennedy assassination. One of the reasons why, if I was him, I would focus on the Kennedy assassination is they might fucking kill him.
Starting point is 02:55:04 Like, it's entirely possible that he's thinking that he could get assassinated. 100%. Absolutely. You know how many people want to kill him? Maybe that's why he's opening it. Maybe. I would. If I was him.
Starting point is 02:55:13 I wouldn't think there was any files. Like, why would those files exist? They should have been burned a long time ago. Yeah, you would think so, right? There's no files. And also, doesn't he have the highest security of all time? Like, they pay the most to protect him out of all time because there's such a threat now? Oh, he has crazy security.
Starting point is 02:55:29 You ever seen the doors on his limo? They had a video of him. I was – God, I can't stop coughing today. I was looking at this image of him. There was a video of him getting out of the limo, and I was like, look at that door on that fucking limo. And then I went to some images of the limo. The limo door is like that thick. Is it different than
Starting point is 02:55:49 Obama's though? I don't know. Isn't that the standard one that Cadillac makes? I never looked at the other one, but I mean the doors are fucking ridiculously thick. They're bomb proof. Yeah. Yeah, they're sick. That would be the dopest car to drive around in. You'd be like, fuck you. Fuck everybody. Fire away boys. to drive around in. You'd be like, fuck you. Fuck everybody, yeah. Fire away, boys.
Starting point is 02:56:06 Just drive me around, man. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You'd be in there sipping tea. Whatever. Pinkies up. Whole world. Yeah. They make a car that you can buy.
Starting point is 02:56:16 There's a company called Devrolo, D-E-V-R-O-L-O, and they make a car like your truck, a Toyota Tundra, but they make a car like your truck, a Toyota Tundra. But they make that motherfucker bulletproof. I used to work for a company that used to bulletproof vehicles for two weeks. It was a fiberglass. They do it in fiberglass. Really? I couldn't hang.
Starting point is 02:56:34 Yes, I quit. It was too hard. Oh, the fiberglass fumes and shit? The dust. There's fiber. Oh, dude. It's a shitty gig. We made cars for diplomats and for like mobile check cashing vans.
Starting point is 02:56:45 Those are the big things. That makes sense. And then private cars. You just fill the doors up with fiberglass, just sheets of fiberglass. Really? Yeah. That's it? But what about the windows?
Starting point is 02:56:56 I don't know. I don't remember how the windows are. The windows are thick as fuck. I don't think the windows are a different factory. Just bulletproof underneath. Make it bombproof from underneath. Fiberglass the shit out of the doors. But this Devrolo company, they do consumer cars.
Starting point is 02:57:14 And I don't know what they do with the windows. In Brazil, they're popular. Bulletproof cars? I'm sure. Hell yeah. Brazil, Mexico. Here's the President's update. New Cadillac presidential limousine to debut later in 2017
Starting point is 02:57:26 Cadillac just runs that shit You bet your ass it's Cadillac It's called the Beast Oh, what a fucking clever name The Beast A.K.A. The Beast That thing can't be cheap Wait a minute, they're selling it to anybody?
Starting point is 02:57:40 How come I can't buy what the president has? Come on, bro What do you think how much one of those limos goes for? Anybody? No, no, no. I need to get one. How come I can't buy what the president has? Come on, bro. What do you think how much one of those limos goes for? What's the money? I'm going to say $600,000. Oh, no, no. If the taxpayers are paying for it, that's $30 million.
Starting point is 02:57:59 Who's paying for it? Oh, okay. It's that tax money. Shit. No bid contract, a billion dollar limousine. Two plus three plus two layout means it can carry chief executive and a couple of aides on most journeys. Passenger compartment would still offer conference style seating for five and the rear passenger doors will still be positioned to the front of the rear quarter windows that will partially obscure the two rear seats. If I was president, I wouldn't have a Cadillac like that. Would you have?
Starting point is 02:58:26 Something like that, but the front end would be a Viper. So American. I'd have the Punisher war van. That'd be sick. And I'd put a fucking white skull on the side of it, too. Could do like a big-ass long Bronco, just something so fucking American. Mmm, a Bronco. That'd be sick.
Starting point is 02:58:39 Maybe a Ram, Dodge Ram. Yeah. Mmm. Yeah. Bulletproof a smart car. Bit of a bummer, man. Those things are so ridiculous. How many of those things get crushed?
Starting point is 02:58:49 You don't see a lot of them, though. You see a little of them in Hollywood. I feel like they're dying out. You think so? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People don't want to save gas that much.
Starting point is 02:58:59 You can't get laid. They're so lame. They're so funny. You go to a car wreck, it's like a motorcycle. You're dead. Yeah. A girl riding a Prius with you. Like, oh, he's just really clean.
Starting point is 02:59:09 He's green. Vegan chicks. He's really into the environment. Who's that? Chad Ochocinco. Chad Ochocinco has a hooked up smart car? Yeah. What is he doing these days?
Starting point is 02:59:19 That's a big smart car, right? That's a special one? He was rumored. They tried to do a flag football league, him and T.O. and a couple other players that used to be in the NFL, and they did a pilot game, I think, to try to see if anybody was interested. But he's managed to stay fairly relevant. Yeah, he's really big on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:59:35 He goes around the world, I don't know what world, but the United States and challenges people in FIFA. He says he'll play them at their game. Yeah, he's really good at soccer. He's good at physical, I mean, like real soccer, too. He just keeps his name out there.'s good at physical, I mean, like real soccer, too. He just keeps his name out there. Flag football, sir, absolutely not.
Starting point is 02:59:49 Same as that 303 basketball league. Get the fuck out of my face with that. He's got a hooked up smart car. I've never seen a hooked up smart car. I don't want to see a hooked up smart car. Matt Black, rims, vented rotors. No, you're not into it? Nope, not for me.
Starting point is 03:00:00 You're angry. It's just not for me, man. You look a little angry. Just not for me, you know. Yeah, it looks like you're taking offense. Yeah, those are not the best cars to drive around in. No, fuck no. These seem super dangerous.
Starting point is 03:00:16 Prius got cool because Leonardo DiCaprio, you know, rocks them. You know he doesn't really rock them. He just rocked them with a photo shoot and he hopped out of that and right into his Ferrari. I just see you, bitches. While he's getting blown. Snorting Adderall. Does Brian still have the Tesla? No. Oh, he does have the Tesla. Sorry. Yeah, he does have the Tesla.
Starting point is 03:00:36 It's all fucked. You know Brian, he doesn't care about cars. You gotta have a Tesla. Might as well. You know what I mean? That's a dope car, man. Is that a Tesla? Fisker? Fisker Karma? They caught on fire though, didn't they? Well, they did. I mean? That's a dope car, man. Is that a Tesla? Fisker? Fisker Karma? They caught on fire, though, didn't they? Well, they did. The old ones did.
Starting point is 03:00:52 When they had that hurricane that hit the East Coast a couple years back, they had all these bitches parked near some water, and the tide came in, and they all blew up. When they went underwater, they just started exploding. Boom, boom. You can get for cheap if it rains, you're kind of fucked, but they're cool. Well, I think they've fixed that. No, they're out of business. No, they're back. Are they back?
Starting point is 03:01:09 Yeah, Fisker's back. Damn, I want one. They have a new car. There's all the cars. Look at them all. They're all just fucking cinders. They all just blew up and caught on fire. That is fucking hilarious, man.
Starting point is 03:01:19 Look at them all. Fuck. Imagine the people that own them. They're like, hey, you fucking piece of shit. What if I drive through a puddle? Damn. Our car's going to blow up? That's a sweet ride, though.
Starting point is 03:01:32 That's like a step up from Tesla. Those are the... It's way cool. That's Leonardo. Not Justin Bieber had one. Yeah, the Biebs had the golden one. The chrome one. The chrome one, yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:41 I think that's the future is electric cars. It's just they're not quite ready for prime time right now. God, I'm just not – I just can't get it. I know for the environment, I get it. I like that aspect. I just can't get into it, man. Yeah. I get into a Tesla, I'm like, God, it bums me out.
Starting point is 03:01:54 They're better for the air. I know. For sure. I know. But environmentally, there's a lot of concerns with those things, like how they extract the minerals that they use to make the batteries and the lithium. Lithium comes from a lot of, they call them conflict minerals. It comes from a lot of really poor areas where people are forced to mine these things.
Starting point is 03:02:14 They have no other way to make money. There have been a bunch of articles written on it. Isn't that how all shit's made? Pretty much. Cell phones. You can say that about everything. Well, here's the thing. It's just cell phones.
Starting point is 03:02:22 Cell phones, like coltan that they use to make cell – is that how you call it? Coltan? I think it's called coltan. It's a mineral that they use to make cell phones. And for the longest time, at least, it was like a lot of it was being made in the Congo. And these people were essentially like almost slaves, like mining this stuff. They used little children. They used child workers to mine this stuff.
Starting point is 03:02:42 There it is. It's a lot of stuff, though, isn't it? Coltan. Conflict minerals in the Congo. Documentaries have. There it is. It's a lot of stuff though, isn't it? Coal tan. Conflict minerals in the Congo. There's documentaries been done on this. It's horrible. So in the Congo, this is one place that's particularly rich with coal tan. And these poor, poor, poor people.
Starting point is 03:02:56 Like a level of poor that you and I just will never understand. And we need that for our phones? Yep. Yep. It's a key ingredient in cell phones. And I think maybe laptops too. But for our phones. Yep. Yep. It's a key ingredient in cell phones. And I think maybe laptops, too. But definitely cell phones. It's fucked up, dude.
Starting point is 03:03:11 You know, it's just a weird thing, man. You've got a phone, right? If you've got a phone made by any of these major companies, a lot of them get made in China. People are jumping off the roofs of the buildings right now. Or are they just working? What's going on right here? They're getting paid. Well, they just working? What's going on right here? They're getting paid. Well, they're getting paid very little money.
Starting point is 03:03:28 But compared to us or compared to other people there? That's the standard payout there, right? Yeah, I mean, maybe they're balling. Maybe they're happy to have a job. Are they hanging themselves like in China? I don't know. They seem like they were cool. Apple had to put up a net so many people were jumping off the buildings.
Starting point is 03:03:44 They were just sifting through the gravel Chilling With their headphones on Listening to podcasts People die doing it all the time Yeah they're listening to like How stuff works Listening to
Starting point is 03:03:54 JFK docs They're listening to TED Talks On Coltan Like no this is not how it goes Motherfuckers I'm in Knee deep in mud right now Looking for this
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