The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - Sept. 20, 2014

Episode Date: September 20, 2014

Joe is joined by Eddie Bravo and the hosts from "The Fighter & The Kid" podcast, Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen, to watch the fights on Sept. 20, 2014.

Yeah! And this is a live Fight Companion podcast. Brian Callen's supposed to be here, but of course he's fucking late. Brendan Schaub's here. Holla, Big Brown's in the house. And of course, my brother Eddie Bra is here. Oh shit. Eddie Bravo in the house. And we're just looking at the blank screen right now while Mark Hunt is going to face Roy Big motherfucking country Nelson tonight. Oh, shit.

Yeah, we can get some of that in there, too. We might not be able to smoke weed with Brendan Schaub in the room, though. I'll just hold my breath. December 6th. What's today? We have some time. About 13 weeks. I'll just hold my breath.

Can you do that? Are you good at holding your breath? I know you have awesome cardio. I'm like a fish. We're good. I'll just suck on this coffee all night real quick usually go to bed at 11 sip tea usually in bed by 11 sipping tea guys are you really yeah 11 p.m 11 every night wow are you training tomorrow no i trained twice today because i knew tonight's gonna be a doozy when you uh when you schedule like your when you ramp up for a fight, so you're fighting in December 6th.

When you're ramping up and training. Oh, shit, where's that? The Car to Beast, Vegas, Mandalay Bay. Two title fights, then my fight, Travis Brown. That's Vitor and Weidman, too, huh? And Showtime and Melendez. Oh, shit. And then us.

Big one. Good Lord. Any chicks fighting? Not yet. Not that I know of. I don't watch UFCs unless there's a chick fighting. I hear you. Speaking of chicks, the one tonight is, I'm telling you guys, she's a little monster.

Yeah, you got an issue with her. I do. This little filter thing keeps falling out. I got a little crush on her. Yeah guys she's a little monster you got an issue with her i do this little filter thing i got a little crush on her yeah she's kind of hot she was a little plump and she got in some serious shape yeah right and that's like an act like she's like curvy she's like kim kardashian but japanese yeah she's gotta come out and uh how cool would it be if she came out in uh the school girl uniforms? Yeah. Isn't that weird? Remember that dude that used to do that for Pride?

He used to come out with pigtails? Yeah, weird stuff. For K1. For K1, yeah. Dude, it's the national pastime is to be into school girls. How weird is that? Her biggest thing that she's ever done, she dressed up like a bunny. Ooh.

Why do I know this? I don't know. Dirty bunny. Maybe I did some research. And you know what's second? And by research I mean maybe I jacked off We'll let you know as soon as the fights start I don't know why the fights are a little bit late

It says 12.05 on my phone Amateur hour Smells like weed in here It says 12.05 on my phone I don't know if that means somebody fucked up or they're having a problem. We were watching it earlier, though, which doesn't make any sense. It was live from Japan. Goldberg and Brian Stan calling the action.

Maybe it's just a delay for the main card. By the way, I fucking love Fight Pass, dude. It's awesome. I fucking love it. I tweeted that Fight Pass is great. Everybody's like, you fucking chill. I know. It's great.

Fuck off. It's great. Any fight you could think of in the UFC, you could just watch it. You could just watch it. And it works. It was crazy. When I cornered Ben Saunders at the Tulsa event, I get there Friday night. I've never worked with Ben before.

He asked me to corner him like a week before, and he goes, dude, you want to come down? And he had been playing rubber guard off and on over the years, and he was playing a different version. He was playing a version I never played. And then he kind of moved away from it because I figured that he would have hit a dead end with that style. But I didn't want to say anything because it was kind of working for him. And then he got cut from the UFC. He went to Bellator. He'd win some.

He'd lose some. And I kind of lost track of what he was really doing. And then he saw the Hickson video, the video that we did here. And he Twittered me, direct message. He goes, hey, man, when are you going to do a seminar in Florida? He realized he was playing stuff wrong and he wanted to fix it. So I said, well, I don't have anything planned in Florida, but I do have a little rubber guard genius out there, a guy named Tyler Woolsey.

I go, let me hook you up with him. They hooked up. As soon as he got done with Tyler, he said, dude, I want you to corner me next week. Can you do it? I know it's last minute. And did it. And so Friday night, I want you to corner me next week. Can you do it? I know it's last minute. And did it. And so Friday night, I get there Friday night and go right to his hotel. He has fight pass hooked up, right?

So, because he was studying his opponent. His opponent, I think, it wasn't on, he wasn't, I don't think he fought in the UFC before, but he had fight pass. So I said, oh shit. So we put on, I wanted to keep it really simple for him with rubber guard there's it's so sophisticated and so vast there's pieces of the rubber guard that i don't even know how to play yet there's new pieces i'm like shit what are you guys doing over here right there's new shit that's incredible half guillotine a guillotine

from the rubber guard a guillotine with your leg involved it's on hold on a second it's on the fights are on yeah guys walking a guy's walking out right now. So what is this? I don't know what you got here. Oh, is it a different thing? Am I on the wrong thing? That doesn't make any sense. Live events.

Let's see. Yeah, you gotta press live event. Live now. That'll be it. So it didn't switch over from the pre... Oh, how weird. There we go. We rolling.

It didn't switch over from the pre... Oh, how weird. There we go. We rolling. It didn't switch over from the prelims. That's goofy. That's goofy. It's like a different stream. It's coffee. Bulletproof coffee. Not goofy. Brandon Schaub's got a little bit of a fucking coffee problem.

Addiction. And when I stop fighting, it's going to become drugs. Well, my point was with the UFC fight passes, I get there Friday night, and we kept it really simple. Simple rubber guard, mission control with elbows. it's going to become drugs. Well, my point was with the UFC fight passes, I get there Friday night, and we kept it really simple. Simple rubber guard, mission control with elbows. We put on Jason Day versus Alan Belcher. That was an amazing display of elbows from the guard.

And Matt Horwich versus Dan Miller. You know, just right there, it would have been hard to find those fights. You know, I guess you could go to MMA Core. It's always tricky, though, right? It's tough to find them. Yeah.. I guess you could go to MMA Core. It's always tricky though, right? It's tough to find them. But with UFC Fight Pass, man, boom. Any UFC fight.

Is it every single fight that the UFC's ever had? It's every single fight the UFC's had. There's another one of those too. There's everything. That's a full one too. Every single fight in Pride too. Even the early ones like UFC 2? Everything.

Everything. Everything. Wow. All the Strikeforce fights too. Even the early ones like UFC 2? Everything. Everything? Everything. Wow. All the Strikeforce fights, too. Because everything that I could think of came up, but I'm thinking maybe the old ones. Maybe UFC 1, even. I'm pretty sure. If I'm wrong, I apologize, but I'm pretty sure everything's in there. In between these fights, let's throw it on.

There's also a... Well, we can't. We can't. Otherwise, we'll go off the screen because it's running through my laptop. Oh. But we'll figure it out. I don't think there's anything that's not in there. I mean...

There's also a crazy show called UFC Now with a couple of cutie pies on there. Kapow. Brendan Schaub and Kenny Florian. What? What a show. What? Brendan's horny and shit, man. He's talking about himself.

He's talking about himself being a cutie pie. This is true. Oh. You're not even paying attention not even paying attention Jen Brown's actually a cutie pie He said Brandon Schaub Couple of cutie pies like Brandon Schaub Yeah I talked to the third person I'm sorry Oh I'm sorry Eddie I was barely paying attention to you I'm used to that with Callan

Don't worry I just keep on keeping on Callan's the worst with I just keep on keeping on. Callan's the worst with that. He'll get into modes where he wants to say something, and it doesn't matter what the fuck you're saying. What he has to say, it has no relation whatsoever to what you're saying. Wow, that's great.

I met a guy. He wrote a book. Why are you talking about economics now? How do we get into economics? He has this thought in his head. It's like a runaway train. He's just trying to get out of the way. It's insane, man. That's why he's so funny, too.

One of the things you recognize about comedians, it's that same thing that makes them really funny. It's this mad dog bum rush over to get attention. Madness. Nobody's better at like commanding attention than count you know what brian called me he was dead serious goes bro instead of selling t-shirts i got a great idea he's never came to me with an idea for shit he goes good koozies we should sell koozies oh god i went are you fucking kidding me yes who buys beer koozies still who mean what how much of a drunk are you like i need my

beer just a little insulated i thought you meant jacuzzis can you imagine the warehouse you would need to keep an inventory fighter and the kids jacuzzis that makes more sense than a koozie but they're both hilarious for a second i'm like thinking damn they're jumping on brian poor brian but then you said his idea i'm like oh no shit no wonder they always talk shit on him trying to sell jacuzzis well not only that i mean who the fuck's got room for a jacuzzi? Kyoji Horiguchi. I'm not familiar with him.

And who's his opponent? Do we know? We've got to pay attention here. I've got a badass jacuzzi. I've used it once. Seriously, in three years. Once. Let's see who these guys are that are fighting here.

Powerful Ariane in Japan. Hola. I hadn't seen her in a while. I thought maybe she was taking a break. Well, she's busy. She's got a TV show now. Really? Yeah. She's on Overhauling. Oh, shit. Yeah, she's the host of Overhauling. Yeah. Yeah, on Spike, right? That's Bud's show, Brian. Hiraguchi and

Delos Reyes. That's Bud's show, where they take a car and they completely redo it for like a week. He has nothing to do with that show anymore, though, right? Yes, he does now. That's Bud's show where they take a card and they completely redo it for like a week and they get it back to you. He has nothing to do with that show anymore. Yes, he does now.

Oh, he still does. He's back on it. He's back. Huh. Yeah, Bud owns it again or is a producer of it again. One of those things. Yeah, it was his show.

It was his idea. I don't know what happened. You know, I'm just happy he's doing it again. Oh, body kick. Oh, body kick. It's over.

It's over. You never know. No, it's over. He's doing the smart thing, recovering. He's on the bottom. You don't recover from that. You can if the guy stays on him. See, if the guy was smart

and he's a striker, if he's that good of a striker, he'd probably try to get away, right? Yes, 100%. Because that guy would be much more helpless in a non-clinching situation. The ref will force him to stand up, too. Leota Machido told me that. You get hit to the body, drop to your butt

to buy time until the ref stands you up. Well, Tito did that with him, remember? He caught Tito with that body shot, that knee to the body. That's right. That's pulling guard, though. That's a slick move by Tito. That's pulling guard.

He's being silly. But you're going to get finished. Eddie Brown was being sarcastic. He's a master guard player. And 90% of people won't catch that. I thought maybe he was saying it in MMA. 90% of people won't catch it. I'm just telling you right now.

I know the Eddie Bravo humor. You got to stand up. You got to stand up. To him, it's like chess moves that are really stupid. You see someone doing a dumb chess move, and you and I are like, what is he talking about? Yeah. Other people who know Eddie, you know exactly what he's doing. He's always said that.

I mean, we're seeing it. We saw it with your boy. Sometimes you've got to pull guard. We saw it. Sometimes you've got to. It shouldn't be your first option, but it should be in the third. It should be. Yes.

Look how good Ben Saunders' control was. It was amazing. Bro, if I'm for doom and Canes beat me up against the cage, I'm pulling half guard. Sometimes you have to. Meanwhile, this is a good fucking fight. Yeah, it is. Really good fight. He recovered.

Yeah, he got out of it, man. But that Haraguchi dude, that guy's got a nasty left kick to the body. Oh, he's trying to pay him back for it. Oh, he did too. He did too. Are these guys 45ers? I don't know. They look like 55ers. See, I was going to say 35. 25?

No! They're flyweights? Oh my god, they're giant. No way. Well, you know, no one is really a fucking flyweight anymore. They're all like 150 pounds and then flyweight for an hour. I mean, that's what's going on now with all these weight classes. Dude, you know, I had Mike Dolce on.

Jesus, Dolce was telling me that Nick Lentz walks around like a buck 70, a buck 75, and he gets down to 145. That's insane. And he was struggling to get down, and he gets down to $1.45. That's insane. And he was struggling to get down to $55 before he came to Dolce. Either way, there's going to be a diminishing return. You know what I'm saying? I don't care what Dolce says, and I love Dolce as much as the next guy, but no matter what you say, that can't be healthy. Does he have to be that big?

I don't know. No, but there's healthier ways to do it. Healthier ways, but there's no way he's performing at it. He says it the way Nick Lentz cuts, though. He was saying, yes, he walks around at 175 or whatever, and he does get to 45, but he does it. Oh, he hurt him again. Oh, Jesus.

These boys are scrapping. These guys are going after it. Oh. Horiguchi's a bad motherfucker on his feet, man. Jesus Christ. Nasty, striking. But Delos Rios got him on his back again. Oh, but he's getting eaten up.

Oh, these are hard shots. Oh, he's in trouble now. Oh, this might be it. That's it. That's it. Oh, the kid is in eminence. Oh, shit. The kid is here. The kid is here dressed like That's it. That's it. He's a bad motherfucker. Oh, shit. The kid is here. The kid is here dressed like he's going to take the SATs.

Is that a bottle of wine, you savage? Of course he did. Yeah. He would bring wine camping if you let him. He'd be that guy on our hunting trip. Brian, I'm on your side today, okay? I'm not going to gang up on you. It's not my gang up.

It's us two. It's me and you, kid. He likes it. Me and you, kid, against these guys. He likes it. You never have to worry about my feelings. Brian, before you came in. I feel too bad.

Seriously. I sacrificed my own integrity. You guys came down on me a little hard. You didn't believe my nose story. It was very, very bad. Before you came in, though. Look at that left hook. Before you came in, Eddie goes, we should sell koozies.

We should sell koozies. We should sell koozies. I was like, nah, I don't think so, man. Ask Brian. Eddie Bravo was thinking you should probably sell some sort of hot tub type equipment. I thought he meant jacuzzis. I'm like, what a dumb idea. Hot tub equipment. Hot tub equipment.

You just missed this. Haraguchi's a bad motherfucker. Dude, these are flyweights. Can you believe these are 125ers? I can't. That's insane. It's a perspective issue. Yeah, apparently it is. They might be

4'5". No, the height is up there. Crazy. It's on the thing. One guy's 65 inches, the other guy's 66 inches. I have a new boyfriend, so it doesn't really matter. Oh, Brian loves Akiyama. He's obsessed with Akiyama. He's a beautiful man. He's a beautiful man. You know he sings?

Voice of an angel? I know he sings. Yeah, YouTube him. Gigantic superstar. Correct. In like Korea, right? Sells out auditoriums. Is he Korean or Japanese? I think he's Japanese.

He's got an amazing voice. Well, he's a Japanese guy, but he's of Korean descent, right? I believe so. Sent from the heavens. I believe he has a Japanese name. Yeah. I think for some reason he's got some sort of a Korean background. I'd look, but my TV- Jamie, can you look that up? Yes, he's actually Korean sort of a Korean background. I'd look but my TV my

Jamie can you he's actually Korean Jamie Jim anyone glasses. He's half Korean half Japanese. No wine glasses, dude This is a man's place. He could use a coffee mug use a goddamn coffee mug You don't need a special glass for your fucking fruity drink Brian Brian looks like the Kimbe Mutombo look out. Look how much bigger Brian Stan is to this guy. He looks like Godzilla compared to that dude. So that's why. It's a perspective issue.

I'm with you. That guy's a bad motherfucker. Super bad. Wicked striking. There is no room for anybody but bad motherfuckers at 125 you better be a black belt in everything everything everything and in a black belt in cardio 70 and below you better be a black belt at everything yep oh you want to be because when you're that small especially in wrestling

and jiu-jitsu technique you have to be so technical to just survive in the sport look at that left side bam yeah in everything right you have to be so... In everything. In everything. I actually like watching the lighter weights. Dude, when you got a guy like a Hector Lombard out there... What? What do you mean? Who's terrified of that guy?

Who's not terrified of him? Hector Lombard is terrified of himself. That's how scary Hector Lombard is. Dude, I never saw anybody ragdoll Jake Shields the way he did. When he tossed him around, just smashed him in the first round like a fucking hurricane. Like refrigerators were flying down the street in Kansas. Like a fucking tornado. Booze!

Booze! Booze! Jake Shields is tough as fuck. He's beat some of the best. Jake Shields almost caught him at the end of that barrage. At the very end, in the guillotine. He almost caught him in the guillotine. He had him locked of the best. Jake Shields almost caught him at the end of that barrage. He almost caught him in a guillotine.

He had him locked up and the bell rang. The fucking buzzer rang with Jake on his neck. When you look at Hector Lombardi, you can't believe he gets down to 170. He's got cakes for days. I thought you saw him on the street from a distance. Nicest ass on the planet. Yo, Brian Callen, I was looking for a glass of wine. Oh, Bob, I'm sorry, man. I'm so sorry.

Hold on. The fuck, buddy? Hold. Get a little 2005 Bocayo in your... Do you actually know what it is? It's a 2005 Bocayo. Did you buy it on purpose? Yes, I did.

You knew what it was when you went out to buy it? How did you find out? You'll see. Taste it and you tell me. No, I believe it's good. I'm not questioning now. Because I'm a freak for wine. What do you know?

What do you know about wine? Because I like old world wines. What's that mean? The Europeans like earth in their wine. You taste that earth? You say that? It's like cheese, meat meat mushrooms just tastes good yeah i don't taste any of those things i taste wine california the american palate likes an obvious jammy big wine for the most part i go with the old world wines ladies and gentlemen serious question who who has the best ass in mma

without question 100 i've been doing a lot of deadlifts. Watch your PZQs. Without question, a couple of honeydews with cotton stretched over them. He's right. Without question, Hector Lombard. He's right. I couldn't peel my eyes from the man.

He was in the airport and he was going to security and he took his shoes off and I could not peel my eyes from his ass. Well, you know, there's a few guys like that in the UFC that move. They move it like a notch over everybody. Like Woodley, Tyron Woodley, when Woodley's on. Correct. When Woodley, when he knocked out Jay Heron.

Yeah. Just the movement. It's like, get out of the way. Just get the fuck out of the way. He's got this rush. There's certain guys that have this rush, and Lombard has it, too. You know they asked Woodley to fight Lombard, and he's like, no, I'm cool.

Straight up. By the way. Dana said he was like, Dana was like, no. He literally was like, no, I'm good. Same thing, too. Roy McDonald, they wanted to fight him. He's like, no, I'm cool, Same thing too. Roy McDonald, they wanted to fight him. He's like,

no, I'm cool, man. How crazy is that? That's not necessary. The baddest dudes on the planet are like, no, I'm cool. I'm good. How crazy is it that Dana will bust

these guys out like that? Well, hey, I mean, that's for his business. That's the best move. But it's not even like, you know, the guy's like,

oh no, hell no. It's like they won't even consider it. Oh no, no, never. Is that 100% true? Here's the thing. What are you selling? Like, you know, guys are like, oh, no, hell no. It's like they won't even consider it. Oh, no, no, never. Well, it's also... Is that 100% true? What are you... Here's the thing. What are you selling?

If you're selling a product like the UFC, I can see two arguments. I can see one argument where you're like, you shouldn't talk about that because that's private. That's the fighter's business. Right. But you're selling the baddest motherfuckers on the planet. Right. And the push is always like the Tank Abbott. Anyone, anywhere, anytime. It's one thing everybody loved about Tank Abbott. Anyone, anywhere, anytime.

It's one thing everybody loved about Tank Abbott was the fact that he'd fight anybody. Get off a bar stool. TJ Dillashaw. Cowboy Cerrone's like that. Cowboy Cerrone is exactly like that. It's a double-edged sword, though. It's a double-edged sword. Of course. Ask Rich Franklin about that. Oh, well, it depends upon your success. I mean, ask anybody

who fought in the UFC about the benefits. Are there guys out there? Wait, finish your point. What were you saying about, Joe, you were saying, you were talking about. The baddest dudes on the planet. But him saying that someone turned down a fight. Right. It's like, now you will believe him when he says, this guy will take any fight.

I can call him up at any time, like Donald Cerrone. He'll say that about Cerrone. I can call Donald Cerrone up and say, hey, I'm setting a fight with fill in the blank. He goes, all right, let's do it. He probably has a Budweiser in his hand. He probably finishes the Budweiser, then goes jet skiing, then probably fucking shoots some guns. What were you saying about TJ Dillashaw? Well, he's another one.

He'll fight anybody. TJ fought. I mean, they changed his fight to Joe Soto. The fucking day of the weigh-ins. The day of the weigh-ins. Burrow can't make weight. Falls. Hits his head. Joe Soto, who had won the Bellator title, lost it to Joe Warren.

Got signed by the UFC. Won a bunch of fights in a row. Good fights. Came to the UFC. His fucking debut. His UFC debut. He fights for the title against TJ Dillashaw. And Dillashaw's like, I to the UFC. His fucking debut, his UFC debut, he fights for the title against T.J. Dillashaw. And Dillashaw's like, I'll take it.

See, that's a little different. I think that's a little different. It was day of the fight. He's in shape. He's in camp. He's looking for a fight. That guy steps up. That guy's kind of screwed.

It's a different kind of animal to call somebody, like, yo, Hector Lombard, you got eight weeks. Like, cool, I'll take it. That is a different animal. Brendan, do you think there's fighters out there that get off on fighting the scariest guys? Oh, yeah. For sure. Who's like that? For sure. Like, they want the scariest guys.

Nick Diaz? Mark Hunt. Mark Hunt. He wants the scariest guys? Yeah, like, literally. Like, when me and him were going back and forth on Twitter, the stuff he would say to me, like DM me, I was like, damn, this fool's for real. It's like, I'm just looking for a

blockbuster fight. He just wants to whoop my ass. I'm trying to get paid and get a title shot, and he just wants to whoop my ass. By the way, this guy, Conor McGregor, seems like the kind of guy who'll take all comers. So is Dustin Poirier, man. Dustin Poirier's a bad motherfucker. That's a significant test

for McGregor. I think McGregor's sensational. I agree. McGregor's sensational. I'm a huge McGregor fan. McGregor's boxing is phenomenal. Well, his movement,

he just, he's like a snake, like his in and out. I'm telling you, Poirier is fucking legit. I agree. I can see him winning. He, look,

the way he beat Eric Koch, I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, that's a coin toss. Anybody could land a big shot and change everything. It's a really good fight, though. Those guys are both really technical. And McGregor is very unorthodox, man. He fights from a southpaw position.

He moves like a snake. He's tough to train for. He's got this in-and-out style that's very deceptive, man. There's a lot of dudes, and out style that's very deceptive, man. It's not, there's a lot of dudes and you see them throwing punches and throwing kicks

but they're very mechanical. They step forward and they just throw predictable combinations. You can get a rhythm on them. But McGregor's got like this wiggle. He's got this wobble

in and out. He can counter off things. Anderson Silva almost. Anderson Silva like him. He drags guys into these things and then counters. He'll,

he'll, he'll just duck come back with a right. He's just a really good boxer. Jack Slack did a great slip. He slipped the guy. It wasn't in UFC. He just does stuff that you don't usually see. I don't think he's ready for a top, top level guy.

I want to see him get built up. Dustin Poirier is going to be a hell of a match. It's a big test. It's a big test. Look, Poirier is no be a hell of a match. It's a big test. Look, Poirier is no fucking joke. He's legit. And the kid has been fighting for a long time. And he's not scared of him. And he's young. And he's not scared of him. That's the difference.

It's true. And a guy like Poirier is a guy that you could see a giant jump from him in just four or five months. Because he's in this confidence groove now. He beat Coke. He's at this stage where he's like, he knew Coke was about to fight for the title when the fight got called because of injury.

Coke was like set to fight for the title. Beast, yes. Yeah, he was ready to fight for the title. So Poirier beats him. It beats him convincingly. I mean, that's a big fucking win, man. He's a beast, man. You know how we're talking about guys who take whatever fight,

just go, yep, give it to us. There's a fine line, and this is where management comes into play. Because the fighter should always accept the fight. Always. A fighter should always accept the fight. Always accept the fight. Anytime my manager calls me, I go, yep, let's do it. It should be a manager's job.

I'd be like, probably not, homeboy. Right. The manager being the guy who his ego is presumably not attached to any bullshit. Because a true fighter is going to be like, yeah, I can beat anyone in the world. Give him to me. But when you're dealing with, say you have a client at 170, and they go, hey, we want to fight Hector Lombard in Australia where he lives. We want you to fly down there for 20 hours and get that ass whooped.

You better fake an ankle injury right quick. Worst case scenario. A manager is's gonna be like I don't think so I think we'll hold out a little bit Yeah, and there's I mean, you've I'm sure experienced it yourself

The difference between you now And you when you're on tough If you could go back and fight you When you're on tough You'd probably beat your ass Oh my god, I'd last 20 seconds See? I thought I was such a badass

I was so shitty Just super confident Just crazy confident That's so funny What do you think of the new tough? 20 seconds. See? I thought I was such a badass. I was so shitty. Just super confident. Just crazy confident. It's so funny. What do you think of the new tough with the girls? Did you see the first two episodes? Yeah, I did.

You know. Fucking love it. Do you? I heard it's really good. It's really good. You hear some badass checks. That Rose, that Rose. She's a beast. So I trained with her in Denver when she very first started.

She's your next Showtime Pettis. She can jump off the wall. She can do flying armbars. She's a little beast. She's just as good? Very good. Dude, have you seen her flying armbar finish? You've seen this flying?

She is going after this chick. Have you seen it? Have you seen it? Yeah, yeah. She's a beast, man. She's going after this chick. I mean, they're going to war. And Rose is chasing her down with combinations.

The girl clinches up with her. Rose throws a fucking perfect flying armbar. God damn. And taps her immediately. She's your next superstar. If she does well on this show, she's going to be your next superstar. What about her grinding grappling on the ground

and positioning? I don't know. That's the only thing I ever saw. She's more fancy. You know what I'm saying? I know what you're saying. I know exactly what you're saying. Because then someone might be able to take her down

and stuff her. A wrestler, yes. Yeah, you might be right. You might be right. You might be right. But God damn it. She's like very flashy. She's very flashy. See that arm bar though?

That fucking flying arm bar was ridiculous. That tells you something. She's doing flying arm bars. She's got to be at least a pretty good blue belt. At least, right? The way she did it. You got to see the way she did it. She did it like a goddamn black belt.

It was like- But you know, sometimes there's those people with like, they have one crazy move. And they're like, oh, do a shrimp for me. What the fuck? That's true. You can't even shrimp. But you can do a flying armbar. It's because they came to the gym.

Yeah, and the first day they came in, they showed them a flying triangle, a flying armbar. But they can't do anything else. The first fight, it was a huge upset. There it is. There it is right here. Do you remember when Pei De Pano fought Vinny Magalhães and Vinny Magalhaes caught him with a fucking beautiful flying trunk? Look at that. How wicked was that?

She's athletic. That bitch is wild, too. Look at her. She's jumping around. She has the right attitude. She has the right attitude, man. Look at her. She's crazy.

If you watch that again, if you watch it again, look at where her legs are on the arm bar. Eddie's not impressed. Look. Eddie said Ish don't think so. Ish don't think so. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, let's see it again. I'm just saying.

Let's see it again. Her legs are in a very bad spot as far as an arm bar. Let's see it. Look at her legs. Look at this. Boom. Look at her left leg. Look at her left leg.

It's between the two arms. No, her left leg. Look at her left leg. It's between the two arms. No, her left leg is between the girl's legs. Well, when at the end of it, it wasn't though, right? Yeah. Let me see. Let's see it again. It still worked. At the end, it wasn't.

I thought at the end, she finished it with her two arms in. Look at her left leg. Look at her left leg. Boom. Left leg. Look at her left leg. Left leg. Oh, you're right.

It's trapped in between the legs. Oh, shit. I don't know what that means. Eddie Bravo knows that. I don't know what that means leg. Oh, you're right. It's trapped in between the legs. Oh, shit. I don't know what that means. Eddie Bravo knows that. I don't know what that means. Eddie Bravo, you might know a thing or two about jiu-jitsu. You might know a thing or two. I mean, that was glaring.

Yeah, it's true. I didn't even see it. Well, you know, when you teach every day, I'm analyzing every... Like, I'm in analyze mode the whole time. I'm just looking at everyone's techniques. I can't help it the whole time. I'm just looking at everyone's techniques. I can't help it. Every time I'm just correcting. That's so true.

So you see everything. If she got into this situation, do you think she should have tried to finish it before she got her leg free? Or if she felt strong, should she have just gone for it the way she did? Because she was obviously tangled up like that. Again, that's hard to tell what was going on in her mind. Maybe she thought, I know my leg's in a bad spot, but she's just leaving her leg hanging, so I'm just going to keep it there. I don't know. She must be pretty confident in that.

See, that girl's right leg was just like dangling over. She wasn't using it to defend. But damn, how quick did she hit that fucking flying armbar, man? That shit was beautiful. She has the attitude to be a champion. I'll put it that way. She's wild, man. And that whole wild dance she did after she won.

She's definitely the hottest one. That's 100%. That's important, too. That's 100%. That's important. Are you kidding? Are you kidding? She's legit.

And she's attractive. She's legit. She's got a star. She's hot. By the way, she is beautiful. I mean, facially, her face is, she's like a little Angelina Jolie. Yep. She's a cutie pie. Very beautiful. She's a, she's like a little Angelina Jolie. Yep. She's a cutie pie.

Very beautiful. She's a straight up cutie pie. Pat Barry's girlfriend. So be respectful. Good work. Yeah, he did well. Yeah. Okay, so we got Keechie.

You're so lame. Hey, can I, can we back up? Kunimoto versus Richard Walsh now. Thanks for the invite to dinner, bro. What? Thanks for the invite to dinner. Brian. Hey, guys, there's fights going on right now.

I know, but, you know. Fucking selfish bitch. All right. Keechichi Kunimoto And Richard Walsh Fight companion to life Hey Brennan Thanks for having me

Salute my brother Unbelievable Powerful Eddie Bravo Catching the bad positioning On the legs Yeah right I didn't see it I'm with my family

That was nice Fix that Rose Fix it Pat Or just Just finishing bitches like that. Pat, come on. Oh!

Kunimoto. Pat, for sure, teach her that flying iron bar. Everybody goes to that deep half now, Eddie, huh? Keep your hands up, bro. I missed that. A lot of guys go to the deep half on the ground now, don't they? In and out. You gotta go in and out. You don't have time to play around.

Ooh, these boys are trading. That's not a thing where you can sit, right? The deep half, you just gotta go with it, right? In and out. Boom, boom. Slingshot. Bro. Everyone's growing their beard out, though, huh? Sexy. I can't do it. It's very lumberjack-like. You can't grow a beard, huh? You can't do it. Too smooth, huh? Travis Brown got me beating that area. Yeah, he does.

So, when you grow a beard, does it just look like a homeless banjo player type beard? Yeah, I look like Venice. Venice freaking selling bullshit art. Who's the giant asking me for spare change? Oh, Kunimura got cracked. Big kick. Oh, man.

Look at that. Walsh is a beast. Strong striker. He looks like Kit Dale. He does. A lot. Kuramoto is in beast. Strong striker. He looks like Kit Dale. He does. A lot. Kunamoto is in Japan. He cannot lose.

Kit Dale's got a funny Instagram page. Oh, Kunamoto's busted up, man. Somebody's busted up. It's a lot of blood. It looks like his nose, though. Oh, nice knee to the body. Yeah, that is like a standard, like, masculine look now. The big crazy beard.

Everyone's kind of doing it, though. Everyone's kind of doing it. It didn't exist just a few years ago. Yeah. It's weird. It was kind of like the tramp stamp years ago. It's in the 70s. It's all cyclical. Styles come and go.

Okay, Dad. I wonder what that is. What the fuck was that? What were you giving a lecture? Trends come and go, boys. But why is that? Why do some trends happen? Like, why do people often start growing beards?

Why? How about bell bottoms? How the fuck did that happen? Like, what is it? How does a trend start? Skinny jeans. Skinny jeans. Right.

Now you got big guys wearing skinny jeans. But what is it? It's so interesting how... I think it's a culture. Something happens in a culture and it manifests itself in how people decorate themselves. Pop culture. They see celebrities doing it and then they jump on it. Brendan, are you using the diamond cup? What do you use to protect your cap?

Yeah, diamond cup. Yeah. Is that really good? Only the best for this hobby. I hear you, brother. Have you ever uh fucked around with a thai steel cup i have yeah i feel like it gets more in the way of things especially grappling have you grappled in a lot well that's what i was no i have never grappled

in a thai steel cup but i would imagine that first of all you know i rolled with remember a mirror a mirror no the other renovati near renovati my bad I rolled with Amir Renovardi at Legends and he used to roll with a tie steel cup on and he would mount you he'd use it as a weapon it was really rude

the arm bars the arm bars are intense with it too the leverage strong guy anyway it's so crazy that is so crazy that

the IBJJF outlawed cups you're not allowed to protect your balls because they're so cups are so dangerous I agree with itlawed cups. You're not allowed to protect your balls because cups are so dangerous. I agree with it. I agree with it. You're not allowed to protect your balls. The leverage is intense, man.

See, I agree, but I think a cup that doesn't hurt, like a diamond cup, like a softer plastic cup, I think should be okay. That leverage, bro. There should be a foam one. There should be a foam one. You know what I mean? God damn it. I broke my balls once.

I had dick bleeding once. You know I only wear a cup when I'm fighting. I only wear a cup when I'm fighting. I never wore a cup in football all the years. Really? Only when I fight, I wear a cup. Because you might get kicked in the balls. Well, you have to wear it in the UFC.

I wouldn't wear one if I didn't have to. One of the militant guys lost a ball. One of the military guys. Because why? Because it's a liability? Lost a ball. One of the military guys. God, I forget his name. He's a really talented fighter.

And in training. And it was one of those things where you're like, I don't need a cup. We'll just go light. You told me this before. And you got me hooked up with the Diamond Cup since you told me this story. I still don't give a shit. What's the difference? Look what Lance Armstrong did with one nut.

But what is the difference between a regular- Think about it. Hogwatcher has one nut? Remember that? If you think about Lance Armstrong, man, first of all, Lance Armstrong, you could never do what Lance Armstrong was doing in the UFC because you'd get caught. You'd get caught. Simply.

They're going to do random tests. Are you saying because he's taking a lot of drugs he won the Tour de France? I think that maybe him taking a lot of drugs was one of the reasons why he won the Tour de France. I thought he still had one nut. I'm thinking some chemicals were involved. That guy was a fucking science experiment, man.

He was a fucking science experiment. Everyone was, though. Let's be honest, everyone was. Absolutely. You're 100% right. Chael Sonnen said it best. Chael Sonnen was talking about it. He was like, look, the guy was the best cheater. He goes, that's what he was. He was the best cheater. He probably had some genetic

advantages, but he was the best cheater. With baseball, too, they're like, oh, these guys, steroids, blah, blah, blah. The pitchers aren't steroids, too, man. I hate to tell you, it's a level playing field. Oh, it's over? We missed the ending. We're talking all this shit. Oh, he hooked him on the left hook. That guy is tan as shit.

Oh, nice. Oh, beautiful. Oh, it's gotta hurt. It's tough, though. Yeah, if there's anything to suck at in MMA or to not be as good or suck in comparison to your opponent, the scary thing is striking. God damn. That's why a guy like a Lombard is so fucking terrifying

because he does both. He does both. You ever see that video of him breaking that dude's leg in a grappling competition? No. You hear it snap. You've seen it, Eddie. Which one? Hector Lombard snaps on a dude's leg.

I don't remember. What part of his leg? I don't know. It looked like an ankle lock, so probably his ankle. Oh, God. Or down by the bottom of his leg. I mean, he just snapped this dude's leg. You hear it.

You hear the crack. I don't remember what kind of leg lock it was, but it was nasty. Did he hang under like Palahari style? He just snapped it. The guy screamed and it was over. He's a fucking freak, dude. Okay, this fight is not over, man. That was just in between rounds.

Jesus. Wow. That guy is still in there. By the way, who is fucking tougher? Like, if you had a generalization about a nation. Like, guys who can take it. I know what's happening. Japanese guys can fucking take it. Well, I actually know that...

Sakuraba. Samoans are no pun. Oh, they're the hardest. They've done some studies on people that can endure the toughest. Don't forget about the Mexicans. The toughest soldiers, they say, traditionally are Koreans and Turks. Their legendary ability to endure hardship and stuff. That's interesting.

But then again, Mexicans are tough. There's some Korean fighters that are really good. There's a few Korean fighters that are really good. Korea started to build this really good base now. Well, Korea was invaded 400 times. Home and Troy making a comeback. Is he? Yep.

That's what I heard. Looking for scrap. Is he getting his pituitary gland operated on? A lot of those guys have to do that. He's like 600 pounds. Who's going to fight him? Nobody. But Bigfoot was way over 300 pounds.

Remember he fought that dude, the big jujitsu dude, Eric, guy from Hawaii. Eric Pele? Oh, yeah. Remember Eric Pele? Yeah, yeah. Huge guy. Who fought him? Bigfoot did.

That's right. Back in the day. I think Eric Pele beat him. I think he knocked him out, right? Was that in Elite XC? God damn it. I don't remember. Find that, Jamie.

Eric Pele versus Bigfoot Silva. Man, I can't remember. Find that, Jamie. Eric Pele versus Bigfoot Silva. Man, I can't remember what happened there, but Pele was huge. She was like 300 pounds. This is, this, this. Big giant. They say Mark Hunt, you should hear Mark Hunt started camp at 340 pounds. What? What?

He's light. He's nice and light. From Mark Hunt. Oh, no. He's beautiful. He's in good shape. 340 pounds. That's perfect.

That's what you want. Barely made weight, had to cut weight. That's what you want. Barely made weight. Had to cut weight. That's the average 14-year-old tomorrow. Keeping all that weight on. Just the blueprint of healthiness. He's an animal. Dude.

I'm a Mark Hunt fan to the end. I'm a Mark Hunt fan. He's so fun. I think everyone's a Mark Hunt fan. You have to be. You have to be. He's so fun. And by the way, he's got some of the most beautiful walk-away KOs.

His KO is Stefan Struve. Tugscher? Mm-hmm. And yeah, yeah. Chris Tugscher. And how about Chuck Congo? God damn, that precision with that left hook he landed. Just bop, bop.

Scary dude, man. Oh, he's tough as fuck. And by the way, barely throws any leg kicks. He's got legs that are like fucking telephone poles They're the most frightening legs you think if that guy doesn't really throw them He would fuck guys up if he threw a lot of leg kicks me throws him occasionally and they have a lot of power behind I'll throw a head legs are enormous is they're fucking and even if you block it you can get fucked up dude anybody who? Doesn't incorporate leg kicks in their game, if they could

have been there when I was first starting to do commentary and I got to see Pedro Hizzo fight when he was in his prime. Kicking Randy Couture's leg off and shit. Everybody would be doing leg kicks. It's such a ruthless weapon when it's in the hand of a guy like Pedro Hizzo. Jesus Christ. I never heard

anybody's leg kick sound like that before. Correct. They inspired me to go and kick the bag like hundreds of times more. Just being there from him doing that made me want to work out. Your leg kick's pretty crazy, my man. I guarantee you. When we trained with Dwayne at your house, you were kicking it all hard. My best friend and my brother were there. You're like, Brendan, your turn.

I was like, God damn it. Joke and kick, ridiculous. Like a a motherfucker it's ridiculous speed and power it's hard to kick after him right it's weird like trying to follow him in comedy it's the same yeah i was trying to be funny i like made some joke here i go everybody or some stupid we've told some stories before man we man we got in the car and my brother was like you uh rogan gets hard on you huh i'm like yeah man better kicker fuck you guys all right big deal hey check check this out what he caught um maybe 15 years ago uh i was hanging out with joe we dropped off his car to get a new stereo and we had to kill like a two hour so So there was a gym across the street, a kickboxing gym, owned by some Middle Eastern brothers that were good at kung fu and kickboxing.

Awesome. We just go, we show up. Perfect. We show up and Joe's just hanging out and I asked the guy, I made it seem like we were interested in joining. So I asked him, I go, what kind of kicks do you guys throw here?

And he goes, oh, we throw a lot. So we do these kicks and those kicks. And I go, can you show me what kind of kicks you throw here? So he's all warming up, stretching out. And he's about to kick this bag. And he looks over at Joe. And he sees Joe shadowboxing a little bit. And he asks Joe.

Joe didn't want to. I wanted to set. I was setting him up. I wanted him to kick the bag first and then have Joe kick and look at his face. I've done this before, like at John Jock's. It was like an old thing that i did and i and i was setting him up but before he kicked the bag he looked at joe and says have you ever trained and joe didn't want he goes yeah and he goes in what in a taekwondo and then he goes for how long it was like uh quite a long time and he goes let me see what you got so then joe said okay so So Joe murders this fucking bag. Crushes it. He destroys the bag.

Crushes it. And after he gets done with this flurry of hurricane kicks, the guy goes, hey, listen. Fuck that noise. He goes, I do this for a living. If I have a kicking contest with him, I can get hurt and it affects my classes. I'm going to teach. If you guys want to come to the class, I'll show you the kicks in class. Smart guy.

Am I lying? Dude. 100% true. 100% true. He backed out of Instagram. He wouldn't kick it. Where he's kicking with Mike De La Grotte. Mark De La Grotte.

Whatever his name is. You know the guy's name. I watched that dude. It's on a fight podcast. He doesn't know Mark De La Grotte. Stop it. Stop. Shut up.

It's tough. Shut up, both of you. I watched that video 15 times. It hurts my heart sometimes. You only work with A fucking professional fighter It's Mark Delegate No listen man

You only work with A top 10 heavyweight No worries I've seen a lot of guys kick Like I've grown up in gyms I've seen Dwayne Lugwood You know I'm just saying

The hardest kick I've ever seen I'll go on record Saying this Is Joe Rogan It's not just cause he's my boy It's the hardest kick I've ever seen

We got in the car And I thought Everyone was gonna be Talking about my boxing, right? But no one said shit. Everyone was talking about Rogan's kicks. I was like, yeah, pretty cool. Fuck that guy. Anyways, you know, it's like, damn, man.

It's nutty shit, man. It's insane. If you haven't seen it, check it out. It's not Instagram. I started doing it when I was a little kid. So what? When I was commentating for King of the Cage back in the day, this was like in 2000, I would work with Joe every now and then. He was trying to show me some shit. And man, I was holding

bags from when I felt it. This was like 2000, 2001. And I'm thinking, are kicks from a guy this size supposed to be this hard? I didn't know. He was showing me how to hold bags. I'm like, this is... I can only imagine if I didn't have the bags how they would hurt on my arms.

You knew your arm would break. So at John Jocks, there was a bag, one bag in his jiu-jitsu school. And it was filled, the class was filled with guys that were black belts in karate. They were trying to add jiu-jitsu to their system. We had a bunch of black belts. So I wanted to know if maybe this was just normal. Maybe all dudes can kick like this. So I would say, I would have guys go, Dave, can you kick the bag right dude who owned a crowd so he would kick

and i go joe now you kick it and then everyone go oh it's like a shotgun and then we're like oh my god it is incredible so then i kept doing that over and over i wanted to just make sure just to make sure i was telling i knew what i was about. So I remember commentating for King of the Cage, and Rico Rodriguez was backstage, and we were hanging out, and he was the only one I saw that would throw turn-in sidekicks. And I felt Joe's turn-in sidekick. Right away, he was showing me how powerful it can be. And I remember taking a video of Joe doing turn-in sidekicks

in his old house in the garage showing it backstage at King to Rico Rodriguez there was no youtuber and I'm like look dude you got to take lessons from Joe Rogan you got to throw and he I remember him looking at the screen and you couldn't really tell on that little it was a little LCD screen for my video camera my video camera I'm sure and he was like I'm trying to show him there's no technology in 2000 at all I had had to show him with the LCD screen. And he was like, interesting, interesting. And he thought I was crazy. The guy from Fear Factor can kick like that. I watched that Instagram video.

I showed probably 50 people that day. You know who can kick like a fucking mule? And I would beg him to kick. I would beg him to kick Shane Carwin. I said, when you fight Brock Lesnar, throw this fucking kick. Well, he's pissed in that weird way. He's like, everything is too big. His shoulders are too big.

His hands are too big. He walked into fucking the Boulder Jiu-Jitsu school. He walked into Mal Easton's place. And I swear to God It took me a half a second To realize it was Shane Carwin Cause I thought I was

Watching like a movie I thought I was Watching a movie Where like Like the thing Shows up Bro He's that big

He was practicing kicks And we kept telling him We gotta use him You gotta use him This is right before I won the tough house This motherfucker Decided to start using him

Oh my god Tore my MCL The week before I won the ultimate fighter right before I went in the tough house. This motherfucker decided to start using him. Oh my god. Tore my MCL the week before I went into the ultimate fighter house. So I went in the house with a torn MCL. Oh my god. He kicked me once. I said, no more, you fucking behemoth. Well, I can only imagine. If you look at how big his hands are, if you see how hard he punches.

No more, you behemoth. The punching power is going to directly translate to kicking power. If a guy has freaky punching power, he's going to have freaky kicking power. Almost always. It's just a matter of, has, he's going to have freaky kicking power. Almost always. It's just a matter of has he put in the same amount of time. Wow.

This Japanese guy hung in there, man. Yeah, he's got this dude on his back. If he chokes him out, this would be incredible. Eddie, how funny is it that almost everybody

goes with the body triangle now when they take the back? You got to. Isn't it funny, though, that that used to be a thing? We used to say that all the time. I'm never going to disagree with Eddie Bravo, ever. I'm just saying, for my game personally in MMA,

I'm not a fan of the body triangle. Why? Flexibility sucks? No, I can do it. I can do it. Why aren't you a fan? I just feel like, especially guys are so good at defending, a blue belt in the UFC with those big gloves can defend forever.

So it's almost a stalling technique now. Unless you're just a Henner Gracie, Hiron Gracie, Eddie Bravo, fucking Verdun, fucking nasty on someone's back, you got to move. You got to move. You got to transition to arm bar. You got to transition to side control from it. I have no problems with that.

I'm not disagreeing. I wouldn't disagree with you. If I was going for the kill on the back, I would definitely put the body triangle in. I would. But if I wasn't, if I was thinking he's too fresh. In MMA, it seems like if you get a guy's back and he's fresh. It's tough to finish, man. To get about, I would transition to spider web, the armbar position.

I would go right to that. Just with Ronda. Ronda don't mess around with the back. But if you get someone's back late and they're kind of tired and hurt, that's when you put the rear neck a choking. That makes sense. Because guys are, it's hard with the gloves, like you said. They grab the glove, though. If you notice, and you're not allowed to, but they grab the glove.

So it's super tough, man. And it's tough to sneak the hand in around the neck because of the glove. It's tough to sneak the hand in around the neck because of the glove. Do you think that there could be an argument because of the fact that they're not fighting with anything on their feet? And they're kicking each other in the face. Like, why aren't they punching each other in the face with no gloves on? The reality being that if you punch incorrectly and if you were more wild and reckless with your punches, you would have to pay a price for it. So we're really more protecting hands than we even are the fighter and in fact it's probably better for your brain if you're getting bare knuckled if you're not allowed to tape your

wrists up and you're not allowed to put anything on your hands i'm sorry you just can't hit as hard you just can't you're gonna have some movement you're gonna have some movement in your wrists when you punch you can have a lot of movement with your kicks you don't to have some movement. You're going to have some movement in your wrists. When you punch, you can have a lot of movement. With your kicks, you don't have any fucking movement. You're shitting people in the head. There's no movement. Thicker, denser bone. And like Terry Adam, when Ez and Barbosa wheel kicked him,

there's no movement in your fucking heel, man. None. So the amount of impact that you can make with a heel like that, like a hammer. You're saying people should maybe wear pads on their feet. I'm saying the hands. No, I'm not saying that. No, get rid of the gloves.

I'm saying get rid of the gloves. Get rid of the gloves. I think there's an argument for getting rid of the gloves. You know why there's not? Mainstream media would be like, what? Bare knuckle. You fucking morons. It's a four ounce glove.

It doesn't do much. It's just perception. I think honestly it probably protects the hand more than it protects anything. I think Bellator gloves- From breaking the hand. Bellator gloves, they have a good idea because it's more curved and it's more padded and it protects the hand better. And why would there be padding in the back of the hand? Why do they have padding right there? Because you get back fist dudes. You get spinning back fist guys. Oh, Jesus. There should just be pads on the knuckles, not on the back of the hand, that big thick thing.

It's harder to get rid of than it is on the chokes. It's true, of the hand, that big thick thing. It's harder to get rid of by jokes. It's true, but the Bellator glove, the reason why it's so fat like that, the idea being that it's Everlast. They gave it to the Japanese guy. Pat, uh-oh. Whoa! Whoa! Maybe he won that second round. I don't know.

We were barely paying attention. Dude, that first round should have been 10-8. There's no way. This should have been a draw. I think what I was saying is the Bellator glove, it supports the medical part. And there's still four ounce? Yes, but there's more support because there's more. You would hate it even more,

Eddie, because there's like more stuff on top. It's like thicker on top. And the idea being, I think they... That's what she said. Oh, shit, Brandon Sharp. I think they found they found uh that they had way less handbrakes though once they started using it they had a bunch of handbrakes gloves yeah they're uh they protect that's significant because the handbrake can keep you out they'll take you out for it can right right but eddie do you see my argument or my not it's

not even an argument i'm not married to it i'll I'd be happy if they kept fighting with UFC gloves. But I think there can be a debate that it would probably be just as safe with no gloves and probably maybe even possibly safer and way better for grappling. Have there been less pokes to the eye or more or has it been basically the same? There's always like a steady amount. It happens all the time. Yeah. there's always like a steady amount it happens all the time yeah i would say no gloves uh if it's easier to knock a guy out good for the show good for the sport if it's easier to get submissions because you don't have all that shit uh that's good for the show it would if it adds k.o's and

add submissions get rid of them i think i think that um if uh i think if you have gloves on, you probably can KO people better. I really do. I think you have way more protection on your wrist. That's a big thing. Your hands are wrapped up. You feel real confident with it. It's nice and tight. Yeah, anything to get more knockouts and more submissions.

That's what we want to see. We're not paying for decisions. Yeah, and also, how much work is getting done's like how much how much work is getting done i mean how much work is getting done with those gloves on spend a lot of time wrapping the hands for what really again yeah gotta protect those hands man those hands are precious yeah i mean think about the cheekbones kill the cheekbones murder your eye sockets yeah yeah this is kind of weird, right? Why won't they pad up the eye socket?

Well, this is all, I think it's all remnants of boxing, you know? I think we have a lot of ideas. We have their scoring system. We don't have our own scoring system. Our scoring system is based entirely on the boxing scoring system, the 10-point must system. We just arbitrarily started using 10-point must because the athletic commissions had already prepared for it.

They already had judges that knew how to score a 10 for the winner, 9 for the loser. If it's a bad round, you score it an 8. I mean, this is a way different game than boxing. It needs its own type of fighting. I'm super into that. I know you are. I'm too excited, man. Don't you think that we need a more complex scoring system?

Fuck yeah. What about you, Eddie Bravo? When we worked together, Eddie Bravo used to do the in-round scoring at the UFC and it was fucking great because Eddie had a system.

Unofficial judge. Unofficial in-round scoring. What the hell is going on? So he would sit next to us. He would sit next to us and then in between rounds we would show a highlight or something

and then I'd say, Eddie, what do you think? And Eddie would say, I gave it to this, to this. I think Verdum did that and blah, blah, blah. And he would break down why. And he had a sheet, and on his sheet, he would write kicks on one side, takedowns on the other side, submissions on the other side,

and he would write, like, what type of submission, how close it was. And he had all that stuff laid out, and then afterwards, he would give a detailed reason why. I thought that Kane won that round because of this, and he would go over all the various aspects. You've got to write it down. It's so hard. I didn't write it down at first.

So many factors. There's so much that went on in that round. It's hard to tell, but if you could visually see it, I would write it down. Here's a question. If somebody attempts 10 takedowns and the guy stuffs 10 takedowns. The aggressor is more valuable.

Right. But then he gets one. Well, look, he wins the round for sure. He's winning the round if he's attempting more. If the guy's stuffing it, the guy is not giving up too much. So aggression should count as... Sure. It should be something.

What about if I'm a submission artist? I pull half guard, and I'm throwing all these submission attempts, all these submission attempts, and the guy's kind of getting out of them. I'm getting nothing. The judges see the guy on top. He's getting the points. It's true, but I see your point with that. Say that again.

A guy's trying to submit you. So let's say you and I are fighting. You pull guard, and you're throwing umiplata, triangle, arm bars nonstop for five minutes, nonstop. The whole time I'm defending, I win the round. That ain't right. That ain't right. And I'm doing no damage.

But let's say in that Ben Saunders fight, let's say that exact same thing happened every round. He ended up taking him down and just assaulted him with those elbows and rubber guard. But he didn't finish him. I think when it's that clear, the judges will give it to the guy on the bottom because it has happened before. It just needs to be clear with some serious threats from the bottom. That's up for debate. You would think they would.

I bet it would be 50-50 depending on where you're fighting. They should. How fucking crazy is that, though? They should. It's crazy. Think if the NFL NBA were like that, where it's 50-50. Yeah. Where it's like, ah!

Let's say Ben Saunders didn't- Don't leave it up to the judges. Yeah, let's say Ben Saunders didn't get the OMA plot, that the guy survived and the time ran out. Who would have won that round? You think the judges would have really gave it to the dude on top? Probably. He was in deep shit the whole time.

I know. But all they do is they just, a lot of them are just mentally geared towards he's on top, he's winning the round. Because they're uneducated with jiu-jitsu. You know what ends up happening? I'll tell you, some of these judges, man, they look at the replays.

And if in the truck they're showing one dude doing all that stuff, they go, okay, they must in the truck think that dude's dude doing all that stuff, they go, okay, they must in the truck think that dude's winning. So they do that. You think so?

They do that 100% for sure. 100% for sure. A million percent. 100%. A million percent. Not all of them. Not all the judges. Not all the judges.

But a few. But I know it's happened. Dude, this is the fight I'm looking most forward to. Because it's, I mean, this is a,

Brendan Shaw has a weird fascination with this fight. I know. I don't think it's about fighting. I'm kidding. It I know. I don't think it's about fighting. I'm going to just hug. I don't think it's about fighting. She's a thick young lady. She looks...

Look at her picture. Look at her picture for the UFC. You see how thick she is? Like a little Palaharis. Look at her arms. I think Misha Tate is very attractive. She might be the most attractive female athlete. She doesn't do steroids.

No way. Who? Look at that Japanese chick right there. Look at that. And then tell me. She's a cutie pie, too. First of all, Rin grew up doing gymnastics, judo. She trains every day.

Takes only one day off a month. She trains four hours a day. She has that freaking crazy work ethic. She's undefeated, too. Look at those arms, dude. Come on. She's undefeated. Undefeated, 16-0.

One drop. Dude, look at her. She's no joke. She's nasty on the ground. No joke. Right now, I'm a huge fan. All of a sudden, I hope she's awesome. Me, too.

I hope she doesn't get smoked. Well, what is that thing that she does? Look how yoked she is. Those weird photographs that she does. She does weird modeling. The too. I hope she doesn't get smoked. Well, what is that thing that she does? Look how yoked she is. It's like those weird photographs that she does. She does weird modeling. Oh, you mean the awesome, sexy pictures she takes, Joe? Yeah. I'm not saying it's bad.

It's called marketing. It's called marketing. You mean the awesome. I'm just saying if it was your mom, I would say it's odd. I got a question for you, Brendan. Are you going to a store, Brian? No, bro. It's in my car.

Okay. It's weird you have Brian's store in your car. If your opponent- He you going to a store, Brian? No, bro. It's in my car. Okay. It's weird you have Brian's store in your car. If your opponent... He's going to go to another party right now. Let's say Travis Brown wanted to fight you in a rash guard. And the commission, since they're allowing girls to fight in rash guards, they decide, ooh, let's make it... Leave it up to the fighters.

Would you allow... If it was up to you, would you allow Travis Brown to wear a rash guard in your fight? No. Why not? Because girls wear them all the time.

It's true. Why would you say no? But they're both in them. Would you say no or would you say whatever he wants, it doesn't matter? What would you say?

I would probably say no because if he wants to wear it, there's some sort of advantage that he thinks that he's gonna have by wearing it so he must be hella comfortable in this rash guard if i pull the power move i'm like nah son take that rash off because i'm not wearing one you know what i'm saying friended shop playing mind games but you can't you would think look look look but what could be the advantage? I don't know. You're nasty in a rash guard. What are you talking about nasty? Look.

Look at this. No, behind you. Brendan Chubb. Dude, she's yoked. Whoa. There's your girl. Look at those legs. There's all the photographs of her.

She gots all butt on her son. What about her arms, man? Her arms are massive. It's too much. It's a little much. I know, a little much. No, no. Because I think she would be kind of submissive.

It'd be kind of hot because she's like this super strong. I'm telling you. So what kind of advantage do you think you would have? Probably maybe a grip advantage. How? How would it grip you? Because let's say you're fighting a guy like Fabrizio Verdum who you're worried about is you're going to get a really good sweat and warm up on before, so I'm a little more slippery.

You know what I'm saying? You want to be slippery. Yes. Oh, I see. So you think that it would be an advantage because it would limit your defense. Yes. Especially with a guy like Verdum, right? That's what I'm saying.

You're dealing with a sneaky guard. What if Travis Brown wanted to wear that? You would object to it? Yeah, I'd slap him in the face. Really? Yeah. At the press conference, slap him in the face for even considering it.

I don't think that would go over well. What if the guy you were fighting... Help Jon Jones in D.C. What if the guy you were fighting... Let's see, who could it be? Did it help him? If he wants to wear a mask, I'm down for that.

What if you were fighting... Dos Carlos wore that in Pride? I'm down for that. And what if you were fighting Crow Cop and he wanted to wear a rash guard? Would you allow him? Think about it. He was not going to try to submit you.

I know, but I kept taking him down. You would want to submit. I fought Crow Cop. Oh, wait. That's right. You beat him, right? Knocked him out. I forget.

I forget. Yeah, and not only that. That was a bad example. It would be a bad example because a kickboxer would want to have a really good guard. And he wants to get up. Yeah. But if you're on the bottom how is that gonna help you with extra grip holding a guy onto you no just try to get stood up yeah yeah two bottles or lost game cro-cap did the same so just held so you so you would be against the day if you had to sign a petition against, are you for or against rash guards in MMA?

I honestly don't care that much. But if you wear a rash guard, I won't wear wrestling shoes. I'm going to kick you in the face. Wrestling shoes. What if you were going up against a guy like Paul Harris? Then no wrestling shoes. No wrestling shoes. I'm going to oil these things up.

Oil them up. I'm going to oil these things up. Warm up. Yeah. I'm going to put a little cocoa butter on them. And make leg locks illegal. I want to say the dude's name, but I know a dude who would lay in a mineral bath. He would take mineral oil and lay in the bath the night before. And then he would take a shower and dry off. And then he would make weight.

Soak in it. And even though he was not wearing any oil on him, he was so oily from the night before that as soon as he broke a sweat, it would all come through his pores, and he would just be like a fish. Just a seal. A heel. What? Do you think you could beat, in an MMA fight, do you think you could beat Gabby Garcia?

Are you being for reals? Yeah. Yeah. You think you could beat her? Yeah. Hell yeah. You're talking to a man. I would be in a jitsu match, my man.

Can you punch up Gabby Garcia? Look how big she is. I know. I'd punch her in a jitsu match. And then push images. She lost weight. She got slim. She shredded.

I don't care if she's 300 pounds. She shredded. Real quick. I like Misha Tate. I think she's very attractive. However. Rin Nikai. Yes.

Rin Nikai. Rin Nikai. I just feel like She can win this And it's gonna be good For the sport Could you imagine If she became The welterweight

Or the bantamweight champion If Rin Nikai If she's got all these Freak pictures of her In her underwear You know wearing Fucking like little Fucking bunny rabbit

Slippers and shit This is a dangerous fight This is a dangerous fight For Misha She's got head movement She's a dangerous fight For Misha She's 10 yards away.

Because she doesn't know what to expect. Yeah, but she could be setting her up. Look at this little bulldog. What is she doing? She could be setting her up. This Japanese bulldog. It doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't know what she's doing. No.

She could be setting her up. She's going to try to get her down. Oh, she doesn't know what she's doing. Come on. Okay. No, she's stiff. But she could still land, man. But she looked very stiff. Nerves. You got first UFC fight. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. striking. No, she's stiff. But she could still land, man. But she looked very stiff.

Nerves. You got first UFC fight. Fuck yeah, fuck yeah. UFC no. Oh! I bet she's real strong. Oh, dude, Misha Tate's going to fuck her up. Misha Tate's looking very good here.

Hey, Brian, for sure quit churning into the mic. Very aggressive. What the fuck is wrong with you? How long have you been in show business, my man? What the fuck is wrong with you? He wants to be on that mic so badly. I got hungry, sorry. Even when he's eating.

He can't push it away. It's my friend it's right there it looks like misha's gonna dominate yeah it does misha said very strong oh you train every day except for one check this out misha looks very strong and very aggressive and you know there's another thing that she's coming off of a fight where she wasn't oh that's what i what I'm saying. Wow. Ragged on her. Misha's jiu-jitsu is pretty solid, too. Yeah. Well, her overall technique is very solid. I mean, she's the only person to ever put Ronda in a compromising position in a fight. Mm-mm.

Liz Karmush. Liz Karmush. Oh, that's true. That's true. But that was when Ronda used to... She still does. She does that hip toss where she grabs a hold of the headlock. It's a headlock, yes.

And she gives up the back all the time with that. You know why? it's because she wasn't trained with a cage so she went she wasn't used to it and got a weird position she i just feel like she's so confident that it doesn't she feels like it doesn't matter if they get her neck or whatever she's gonna fuck them up that girl has such incredible like laser beam focus towards victory she doesn doesn't have any doubt. It's going to be that Beth Correa, Betch Correa. Betch Correa. That's going to be a great fight.

Is that going to actually happen at the next fight? She's got Ronda so pissed off. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, she's a giant.

She looks like a giant. She's tough. Well, compared to this chick, Rin Nikai. Well, Nikai's very thick, but it doesn't seem to be working out. Rin Nikai better figure something out here. Not that impressed, I got to be honest. Well, Nikai's very thick, but it doesn't seem to be working out. Rin Nikai better figure something out here.

Not that impressed, I've got to be honest. Well, she's very stiff. I mean, she can still win. Anything can happen. Fights are crazy. She can win with a submission. She's not going to win. She's not going to win striking.

You never know, man. You never know. She's not going to win striking unless she just has some. Oh! She got tagged with that knee. Misha's lighting her up now. Misha looks very smooth. Yes, she does. Misha looks great. up now. Misha looks very smooth. Yes, she does.

Misha looks great. Everything's getting close to taking her down. Oh, but I'm telling you, dude, weird things happen when people are durable. And this chick seems very durable. I'm not saying she's going to win the fight, but weird shifts can happen. Misha's a professional. She's too good. Rina Kaj's being like, holy shit, I'm in the UFC.

That's what she's thinking right now., holy shit, I'm in the UFC. That's what she's thinking right now. Oh, shit, I'm in the UFC. Well, this, by the way, this is like one of the best versions of Misha we've ever seen, if not the best. You don't think it's the opponent she's facing? I'm sure it has something to do with it. No, but seriously, she looks very good. Shaw, be nice.

No, he's being honest. I'm being dead honest. You're being dead honest. It's like when Overeem fought Frank Mir. I'm the biggest Frank Mir fan in the world. Everyone's like, oh my God, the Reem is back. Or was he fighting a human punching bag? Frank Mir did nothing.

Well, Frank's had a long career, man. And he got hit by a fucking car. I love Frank. Well, motorcycle accident, right? Yeah. He got hit by a car. He was on a motorcycle, and the car literally hit his leg. The car slammed into his leg

and Sam flew into the air. He still had great fights after that. He had good fights after that. Brock Lesnar? It took him a long time to recover. It took him a long time to recover. I think that was a devastating injury. For sure.

Frank's one of the best ever to do it. Ever. Well, without a doubt, one of the best submission artists. Without a doubt. Oh, she's hurt. It's over. She's hurt. It's over. She's really to do it. Ever. Well, without a doubt, one of the best submission artists. Without a doubt. Oh, she's hurt. It's over. Oh, she's hurt.

It's over. She's really hurt. It's over. Oh, boy. Misha's just too good. Chick's durable, man. Very durable. The sport needs Misha.

It helps. Women's fighting needs Misha Tate. Wow, Brendan Shaw. Imagine what Ronda would do to her. I'm telling you, because she's attractive, she speaks well, and she has some skills. Yeah. Oh, she definitely has some skills. Oh, shit. You know, what is a chick like Misha, though?

What does she do with a girl like Rhonda out there? That is kind of a problem, right? Oh, you're always going to be second place, but second place isn't that bad. It's like shake and bake. It's shake and bake. Shake and bake? Rhonda Shake. Misha's Bake.

Hey, Bake still lived in a nice crib. Bake still had a nice crib. Bake wound up fucking Shake's wife, remember? Yeah. Shake got crazy. Shake gets crazy.

I like Shake. Shake got crazy. I like to party. That was a great movie. He calls him up and he goes, hey, why is the TV on?

Why do you want the TV on the radio on the same time? Because I like to the TV on? Why do you want the TV on and the radio on at the same time? Because I like to party. Hey, how do you get the sound of the stereo but still watching the TV? I don't fuck his fucking home system. That's such a good movie. Great movie.

Shake and bake. But nobody, I'm telling you, man, they're not good friends. Look at my face. Rhonda always belittles her. No, they fucking hate each other. No, I'mittles her. No, they fucking hate each other. No, I'm just saying second place to that shit. Yeah, but being second place to someone as ruthless as Rhonda. When they were doing The Ultimate Fighter together,

and they were doing that thing where they were climbing the wall, and Rhonda wins, and she goes, fuck you, bitch. She hates her. She fucking hates her. Nobody does that. Everybody else, if it's Gilbert. Even guys don't do that. Rhonda's a different animal, man.

She literally has hate in her heart. Oh, yeah. I don't hate anyone in the UFC. I don't hate anyone. No one. Ronda literally hates Misha Tate or hates a few people. She's on some bitch. She's on some next level shit. She's on some demonic next level shit. She's got some fury in her

and... And you don't want to be Misha Tate receiving on the end. But you want to be me sure Tate on receiving on the then But you need to be not only do you need to match her skill set which is good fucking luck But you need to be able to match that intensity man Really fuck this is Rinda Kai. Okay This girl's over here attempting this half-ass double leg. She's freaking, I don't know what she's doing. You turned on her.

I did, man. In one round. You turned on her. You turned on her. Oh, my God. You were going to date her. Dude, you were getting married. Bro, I was crying.

Man. I was planning out our kids and shit. I know. You were in love. Not with head movement like that. No. No. No. Oh!

Excuse me, sir? She doesn't have what it takes to take her down. Get this and Brennan might like you more. No, she's not going to finish any tape. I'm all over this. She's checking her oil. She's checking her oil. She doesn't have any oil in there, man.

It's lube. Misha was knuckle deep in that ass. That's oil. Knuckle. Knuckle deep. Women, it's not an oil situation. The knuckle deep meter hits red hot Friday night. Misha's going to take over with a knee.

Can you imagine lube made from real butt oil? Well, if a guy has oil, does a gal have oil as well? Would you call it checking your oil? Yeah, everyone has butt oil. Checking your honey. Checking your honey pot. Come on. Butt oil.

Checking your honey pot. This is a Butter oil. Checking your honey pot. This is a pathetic conversation. Checking the Kool-Aid. 10% butter oil. Let's not do this because this is bad for the sport. I agree. We're on a weird path, man. I was trying to stay out of it.

But you guys dragged me in. It's not our fault. It's none of our fault. We've been drinking and we're not responsible for our words. Correct. No, I am not. I'm just drinking coffee. I'm sober as shit. But things like that. But it's late. It's none of our faults. We've been drinking, and we're not responsible for our words. Correct. No, I am, though. I'm just drinking coffee. I'm sober as shit.

But things like that. But it's late. Like getting kicked in the junk. I don't ever know what to say. If a girl kicks a girl, I'm not coming up with a new thing to say. Have they shown it in slow motion? Have they stopped the fight? Have they stopped?

No. Never. What about a titty shot? What about a titty shot? That would hurt. What's going to happen? Are you going to show it in slow motion? Show the ball shots in slow motion.

That's my point. And everyone goes, ooh. The whole stadium goes, ooh. By the way, I joke about it sometimes. You know, I'll make light of it. Like, oh, that is not fun. You know, I'll say something like that. But I'm not going to say that if it's a girl.

If it's a cunt punt. Hey, you said that, Eddie Bravo. Excuse me. Nakai's on her back. Nakai's on her back. Nakai's on her back. How did that happen? Never let her get her back. Bro, what did I tell you, man?

Weird shit happens when people are durable. Oh, no. She is the weird shit happens. This little fire hydrant just keeps on keeping on. Oh, Brendan Shaw's back on the crowd. He wants him back. He's back on. He's back, baby.

You get this, we give you big brown. But listen, she's shaking her. Easy, easy. She's doing a good job. You don't win one and get the brown. That's not good for me. Let's see if she holds the back position. She's too short.

She's going to shake her off. She's trying to switch to a body triangle. But no, look, she's hanging on, man. She's kind of hanging on. She's going to be in her guard now for sure. She's going to end up in guard. But let's see what kind of guard she's got. Maybe she's got a good guard. No, those legs are too thick. She ain't got no guard. She's going to be in her guard now for sure. Let's see what kind of guard she's got. Maybe she's got a good guard.

Those legs are too thick. She might have some nasty leg locks. She might have some nasty leg locks. Misha's a very good grappler. She's a better grappler than she is a striker. 100%. You're right. Rinne Kai is a

durable little gal. She's game. Taking shots. Yeah, but now she's got Misha time for dropping bows. Oh, shit. She's trying to set up an arm bar. Look at this. She's good hips.

She's going for it. She's got good hips, man. Active hips. This is a tricky situation for Misha. She better be careful. This chick's legit. Legit off her back. But Misha, good defense.

Good, strong. On top again. Here comes the knees, son. Little attempt there. The more she can slow Misha down on her feet, the more she turns into a grappling match. She got some good positions, man. I mean, she didn't come close to finishing.

She's winning this round right now. You're in Japan, too. Remember. Remember the last fight with someone. I wonder if they're using Japanese judges. I got a text from Dana saying that in the fight that we were talking shit during the whole fight, the referee grabbed the guy's glove. I don't know what the situation was because we were just laughing and having too much fun.

Just right now? We missed everything. Yeah, we missed a fight. He's listening to it? Yeah, yeah. Dana was going crazy. And he texted me and he's like, I'm sure that if I saw it, I would have called it. But I told him in the text message, I go, dude, we didn't even see it.

We were talking so much shit. This is the worst way to watch a fight ever. Ever don't know we got some weird tangents we're barely paying attention to amazing fights but it's so fun this is my favorite way to watch fights ever oh and the kai's got that single oh boy we were doing this uh this my comment oh boy We were doing this video breakdown Of Brian Carraway the other day And it's funny Brian Carraway On his resume

Like they have You know the resume Like the fighter's resume They gave me Like fought in Strikeforce Fought in Elite XC 13-4 record Said girlfriend Misha Tate

It said boyfriend of Misha Tate It said girlfriend of Misha Tate I thought it said girlfriend Misha Tate It said boyfriend of Misha Tate That was in, Boyfriend of Misha Tate. I thought it said, Girlfriend Misha Tate. It said, Boyfriend of Misha Tate. That was in his bio. That's, you know, he's a good fighter.

He's 4-1 in the UFC. He's a very good fighter. He's beaten some very good guys. It's just his girlfriend is hot. And they want the world to know. They want the world to know. Misha saved his mom's, she went into,

she had an asthmatic attack. And Misha saved her life wow yep misha saved saved whose life his her mother brian carraway oh look at this this is what she went for she went for a tape around nikai got her back damn i like it there's something right there do you see something right there what do you see right right there? What do you see right there? What do I see where? Here? Well, she's completely on the side. Arm triangle position. You know what I love, Eddie? Tell me about this.

Are you doing that arm bar where the arm's in? That arm bar where everybody's doing it now? Like a lot of guys are doing an MMA where the arm's trapped inside the legs. Like past the arm to the side. From side control, you're saying? Yeah, like the arm gets past to the side. It's like this? Yeah, it's totally stretched out,

and then the guillotine goes on over it. You know what I'm talking about? I don't know what you're talking about. A lot of guys have been doing it where they're getting the arm completely pinned up to the side. He gets scared. I think this is one-to-one.

He gets scared. Real kick, I think this is one-to-one. I'm just going to throw that out there. You guys, have you seen Brian Cowan's wig, wheel kick? He does a wheel kick with a wig. It's a beautiful wheel kick. Oh, look at that. Oh.

She got her back again. Damn, she likes jumping on backs. That was a good little combo. She turned it on there. Japanese bulldog. That looks like a very shiny outfit, man. Misha's clinging to that Kimura attempt here. This chick is so strong, man.

Look at her. Oh! She's coming back. She's jumping on the back really quick. Oh, now she's got to flatten out. She's jumping on the back really quick. Once that hook, once that hook. That's a good sign.

That means she's back. Dude, you're right. She's durable. I'm telling you. What did I tell you, boys? You're right, dude. I got instincts. I've been doing this a while.

Never count out the Japanese bulldog. She's about to trap that. I'm trapped. Her legs are too short. Are you rooting against Misha Tate now, bro? Me or Brian? Any one of us. Is anybody here rooting against Misha Tate?

No, I love Misha Tate. Okay, if you could choose to be on a tropic island with one of them for a year. Don't do this to me, bro. Don't do this to me. Don't doisha Tate. Don't do this to me. Don't do it. You have a thing with a Japanese chick. You would have a whole family by the time the rescue party came. She is a cutie pie.

Look at her. I'm too light in the ass for her. She's on that back, son. She's on that back. Brandon, you can handle it. They're both very attractive. You find her attractive. Both of them.

Well, let's admire them for their skill, gentlemen. No, that's why it's attractive, because their skills are ridiculous. Oh, Misha's out. But she's struggling, man. Oh, elbow. Big elbow. Misha looks a little tired. Misha is tough.

Well, angry, man. I thought she looked a little annoyed. That whole combo where she, that take down to the back, that was really smooth. How much more difficult is it for a beautiful girl? She's tired. How much more difficult is it for a beautiful girl to She's tired. How much more difficult is it for a beautiful girl to fight? Oh, big elbow. It's a lot more pressure.

I met this girl the other day who said she wants to get into fighting. She was stunning and I went, why? Why would you do that? This is what I'm saying. A girl like Misha, she has a beautiful face. Look at Vanderlei Silva. Everything. She's beautiful. She's a great person too. Very nice person. Smart too.

Yeah, but let's think about Vanderlei Silva is also a mixed martial arts fighter. Now, I've been a fan of Vanderlei Silva from the golden days. Retired today. His face has changed so much from impacts and scar tissue and damage.

We remember when he fought Dan Henderson, he had this he was actually a handsome guy. He had this one look. And then over the years of just getting smashed, his nose completely flattened out. And then he had to get an operation to open his nose passage up. Mayhem Miller's the same way. Mayhem can't breathe out of his nose. His nose just doesn't work.

So crazy. Just smashed. Now, a girl like Misha Tate, that was my point, she is in the same sport as them. It's very possible. She's not getting hit like a man, though. She fought that Betch Cohea. She'd get hit.

She fought that. You're talking about the exception. When she fought Kat Zingano, Kat Zingano stopped her. That's true. She had a beautiful elbow, too. What about that elbow? That's true. Nasty elbow.

But on average, Wanderlei Silva's going against Crow Cop. No doubt. All these true. Beautiful elbow, too. What about that elbow? Nasty elbow. But on average, Wanderlei Silva is going against Crow Cop. All these monsters. Where a jab can break your nose. It's a little different. It's a good point. But still, you're a girl. We're going to let my daughter fight. Look at the scar. Let's think of a

big scar that happened in MMA. Joe Lozon. He's got this big scar that he had to get. He had to get that Graston method. From what? From a knee. I believe it was a knee or a kick from one of his fights. What's a Graston method? They take like a piece of metal and it's all about breaking up the scar tissue.

They use it for injuries. Athletes use it for... It's like a high-tech form of that rolfing stuff. Right. It's like breaking down... Have you ever done rolfing? Yes. Fucking painful, right? Yeah, it's painful. But it's good. But which have you ever done rolfing yes fucking painful right

yeah it's painful but it's good but effective it leaves a mark for forever rolfing you're fucked up you're saying

you're saying a girl like Ronda Rouse let me tell you has a really pretty face yeah man they could get a giant like fucking gash across their face

like we haven't seen that yet but how weird is it gonna be when there's a chick that has like like Jean-Jacques Jean-Jacques has that cut from fighting Frank Trigg. He was shooting in for a takedown. He got caught with a knee.

And he has, I mean, he had perfect surgery done on it. Like, you can't pay attention. But Jean-Jacques is a manly man. Yeah. If he has a scar, it doesn't hurt the way he looks. Makes him more handsome, really. A girl, you're like, ooh. Yeah. A girl with a four-inch scar across her face. A scarlet letter, you know what I'm saying?

It's not going to change much. Guys are so I'm saying? It's not going to change much. Guys are so horny. A scar's not going to stop them. It's interesting. She keeps going for that single leg. Look at this. See that? Well, actually.

Think of a girl like Gina Carano, though, man. That face. A guy super pretty. Do you see what that's happening? Does that count as a point when she takes her down like that and stands right up?

If Gina Carano had a 21-year-old scar, it wouldn't matter. It's like a boxing match. Fuck. But I'm saying that that should be scored, right? When you take somebody down in a single leg? Yes, it counts. When they pop right up.

It depends on the judges. So if you take somebody down, somebody stands right up, it's kind of neutral, right? Take her down a little thing. She's hanging in there, man. Damn. Oh, wow. I bet you they give it to Wren. Bet you they give it to Wren.

Crazy. Really? They might. Two rounds, right? She's a superstar, too. She bet you they give it to Wren. Bet you they give it to Wren. Oh, you're crazy. Really? They might. Two rounds, right? She's a superstar, too. She got the back twice. You know what I like? I like the Ultimate Fighter, how they have two rounds and a third.

If they go a third, the third decides it. That's a great idea. Don't you think? It's not a bad idea. They used to do that in K-1, too. I think that's a good idea because it eliminates that. Misha is disappointed. Those fights where you have three rounds and the first two are kind of close, but the judges gave it to the same dude.

And then the third round, the other guy ends up beating his ass and he still loses. It's true. You know what was weird, though, in the tough house when I was on it, when you go two rounds, I'm like, you wouldn't know. You go back to your corner, I'm like, we're going a third. Like, Jesus, man. I think it's easier to score that way. I agree. For the fighter, it's kind of cool, too.

You know what I would do? If round one went by and it was uneventful, could have went either way, I would just not even score that round. I would wait until the next round. If we had another round like that, I would give them one apiece. I agree. You know what I mean? Why would you automatically give someone

a round when it could have went either way and they didn't land anything? Who are they going to give it to? Man, I don't know. We were talking so much shit. We would be the worst judges of all time. Ever! We don't even know who the guys were. We'd be worse than Vancouver 174 judges.

They're going to give it to the time oh shazam let's see unanimous here booze are there any booze they don't even jump into japan they just respect the warrior watching fights in japan it's awesome man because while the fights are going on everyone's dead quiet. It's really cool. Is she going to call out Ronda here? She needs to go to wild card and work on her striking. Powerful Bryan Stan looking slick. Got that bob cut.

Look, it's not my favorite sexy accent, but goddamn Japanese is pretty hot. There's something about it. Not on my top. It's not my favorite. It's not my top 10. There's something uniquely sexy about it. Really? The English accent. That's the about it. Not on my top. It's not my favorite. Not on my top. There's something uniquely sexy about it. Really? The English accent. That's the best one.

A chick with an English accent. That's the best shit. Well, Spanish is pretty hot, too. Yeah, Spanish. I'd say Spanish. I'd say Spanish. Pretty good. Well, you're Mexican.

That's not exotic to you. Although that modern family chick, that Cuban chick. Oh, my goodness. Sofia. That's, Jesus Christ. It's impossible to get hotter than that I'd have kids with her right now If they called me

I'd do it right now I want to hear the story They need to do an episode one special Like how did he get hurt They need to rewind Boom And go back Who got hurt

Like how Ed O'Neill got it He got cash They need to get into that Like that story How did they meet Where did they How did he pull that off Maybe he's rich as shit

And she's a Freaking Maybe he's got a dick like Donald Cerrone's arm It's true It's a big veiny White dick Like not giant Not like Shane Carwin's arm Just like a fucking strong 155 pounder Strong lean

155 pounder who throws hard knuckles With an aggressive attitude. That's what his dick looks like. On weight cut, Dave. He just pulls it out. He's just fading. He pulls it out like he's fucking fighting a fire. Just holds it up. A vein. A vein inside my index

finger. And he's fighting a fire. It's hypnotic. Just a big old angry piss hole. Like a fucking, one of those snake fish. What's with your piss hole, bro? One of those fish that can crawl out of a lake and walk for a mile. That's what it looks like. And you can see it breathing. It's just breathing.

It's got gills where the cock flares out in the mushroom head. It's got gills. And it's slimy. It's always slimy. Always just wet. In the middle of the desert, he pulls it out. His dick is glistening. It has a runny nose. It's glistening. It has a run middle of the desert. He pulls it out his dick is Salmonella like aliens tongue The jeans and the length and the size of your boy, man. Fitness sticks. Yoshiro Akiyama!

Vascularity. Come on, Yoshiro Akiyama! There's got to be something like that already, right? By the way, Amir Sadala, if I'm not incorrect, he has been out for a long time. Two years. Jamie, pull out Amir Sadala's record. He's been out for two years. He's been out for two years, for sure? Pretty sure.

Wow, he was a really good fighter, and then he fought Ludwig, and Ludwig kind of picked him apart, and that was a big loss. Ludwig broke him. Ludwig really lit him up. Because he was really becoming a very good striker. Very high volume. He was into that Muay Thai style. But Ludwig was on another level.

There's certain guys when they begin their career and they face a guy where they can't do anything, and they never come back from it. It's weird, right? It was a style matchup. He had lost to wrestlers before it came back stronger but duane ludwig when he's on was one of the most technical most proficient and most educated strikers in mma ever ever ever he's so educated which is why he's such a good career on both sides of his why he's such a good trainer the reason why he's such a good trainer is because he's so educated in all tactics and he's been there and he's been there that's most trainers have it when we were working out with him man i saw him correcting all these little things with

you and all i could think of is god damn if shawb could work with this guy every day if you could work with duane every day it would change your game a lot. You're a sponge. And when you're with that guy and he's showing you stuff and he's a freak. I love Dwayne. He's a sponge and a freak. He's trying to just fill you up and you're like, come on, show me what you got. And you guys, that was a fun workout session to watch. That was so much fun. But that fight was just a bad fight for Amir.

It was the wrong style. Dwayne was too goddamn good on his feet. And Dwayne came into that fight healthy. That was always Dwayne's thing. He always cut too much weight. He's never healthy. He trained too hard. He's been fighting for so long

and kickboxing and fucking, you know, it finally caught up to him. When he got to the UFC, and Dwayne's a guy where if he came in now, you're talking superstar with his skill set and his work ethic. It's just he was a little too late. You know what I'm saying?

Obviously, coaching's worked out for him with T.J. Dillashaw. Tremendously. I'm just saying, you fast forward and start Dwayne 10 years later, he's a superstar with his work ethic. Dwayne is not genetically gifted. He's got a regular athletic body. It's his intelligence and his knowledge and his drive and his focus. And his demeanor.

His demeanor. Listen, when we'd come to the gym and they were sparring, Dwayne would be the first one in the cage. Me and Shane would look at each other and be like, I ain't going with him. You go. Is that right? I ain't going with him. You go. We'd argue.

He had to go first with him. He would walk through everything. Keep going. Walk, walk, walk. Damn. Yeah, he was a fantastic striker. With heavyweights. With guys.

And he would talk to us. Like, you better not. Don't take me down. Don't be a bitch and take me down. talk to us, like, you better not, don't take me down. Don't be a bitch and take me down. And I'd be like, okay, better not take Doyle down. Damn. So I'm sitting there striking with his ass. Damn.

What do you think about, are you practicing turning sidekicks or wheel kicks? Not wheel kicks. Yeah, we talked about that. Can we listen to his walkout music, please? He comes out with soprano's music, Brian. It's boring. I hate that old music. So you've actually taken a lesson from Joe?

No. On turning sidekicks? No, no. Man, that would be a good fucking idea. He's right here. He's your boy. Well, we did a little kicking stuff. I know.

We did something. I mean, think about our hardy kicks. I'm telling you, this December 6th fight, I'm telling you. He's got it. We got some stuff. I believe you. I will have the best training. The Mali guys I'm bringing in He's got it We got some stuff I believe you We have the I will have the best training The Malik guys

I'm bringing in To mimic Travis Brown I'm telling you We got it You'll be just fine We're working on Dealing with that Front

Side kick Or the front Snap kick he does Well everybody's doing That oblique kick It's the biggest fight of my life That Jackson's camp They're really

They're hitting that oblique kick He's not at Jackson's anymore though But he's still gonna train there He's not He's not definitely not He's doing the whole camp In Gl still going to train there. He's not. He's not. Definitely not. He's doing the whole camp in Glendale. Okay.

At Rhonda's camp. Well, look. He still learned a lot from Winkler. Oh, 100%. And he still likes to use that oblique kick. He's still going to have that stuff. Gee, just Christ. How jacked does Akiyama look at 170?

Bodied up. We call that a dime piece. Most dime piece. He's 11. He's 11. We've got to make a new meter. He certainly isn't 11. He makes GSP look like a little pudgy.

He does. And he's got a beautiful voice. No, but he does. That's kind of impossible. Golden tonsils. No bullshit. He is fucking unbelievable. And those gold trunks.

Did you see GSP in Captain America? He did a good job. Oh, fuck yeah, he did. Yep. He's good at playing a martial arts killer. Who would have thought he had the greatest welterweight of all time? He's also good at playing one of the greatest fighters of all time. What are the odds?

The kid's shredded. Look at Akiyama. He's doing very well. That's the right weight for him. That's what you get when you sing. But he's usually at 185. When you practice singing, your body has to be in very good shape. How much vagina is he getting?

I think he's only had a couple of fights at 170. If not, this might be his debut. I think this is his first. What's he usually fight at? 185. His whole career. You ever see the fight with Lieben? I did see that fight. One of the greatest fights ever. As far as entertainment value. Entertainment. Technique-wise,

no. Entertainment for sure. Look at where his lats are. Look at how low those lats are. That's judo, son. Those are chimp lats. That's judo, son. Is that what it is? That's judo.

He's a famous singer, and he's a famous Japanese MMA fighter. And he's 39. Do you think he's the married, I'm going to be faithful celebrity, or do you think he's just running shit? We don't know. What do you think? I think he's running vicious, vicious We don't know. I think he's running vicious trains on Japanese women.

They do some weird shit where they like shit on each other. They dress up as buddies. This is bad for the sport. I'm not saying he does it. I'm not saying he does it. You've gone too far, man.

I'm saying this might be the shoutiest podcast ever You've gone too far, man. You mean when they wrap their heads in saran wrap and they breathe out of sores? This might be the shoutiest podcast ever of all shouty podcasts. It is 2 a.m. almost. It's 2 a.m. and we're lit up like Christmas trees in here. No, I'm only drinking coffee, my man. I'm drinking. But when you do wrap your face in saran wrap.

Look at the bottom of his lats, the line. Jesus Christ. He doesn't have a lower back, dude. By the way, I got a nice back. It's hard for me to give it up. He's got a beautiful back His judo His judo's insane

But he looks He was always like A very fit Thick guy But at 170 He looks like a fucking alien Wow He's shredded

Look at him Strong Boyfriend Dude I'm gonna start bowing Before my fights Wait a minute It says boyfriend on his banner I hope so

That's his girl Right there Japanese people are weird They said oh Amir Sadal, he took two years off. Hey, we got one flight to Japan. Fight this dime piece for us. But the dime piece is taking some time off, too. Dime piece is busy making bank singing.

Singing. And having orgies. That doesn't keep you hungry. Singing at the stadiums. I agree. That body keeps you hungry, though. What's Amir Sadal been doing for a living these days? He hasn't fought in two years.

He's been teaching. Lats of the year. Come on. Who has better lats than him? He looks pretty bouncy. Who has better lats? Amir's movement was always good, man. It was just Dwayne was just a step ahead of him in that fight.

And Dwayne hurt him with like a left hook, I think. Left hook, yeah. Amir's never been known for his power. I feel like Akiyama's going to have some power. Yeah, that is true. Akiyama has some brutal, brutal power. Although that's a big weight cut for Akiyama, isn't it? Come on, seriously. like Akiyama's going to have some power. Yeah, that is true. Akiyama has some brutal, brutal power. And he can toss them. Come on, seriously.

From the beginning, he's going to have more power. Am I just stoned out of my mind? Oh! I'm tripping on his lats. No, he's very big, Eddie. Those lats. And he has a chin, too. Akiyama can take some punishment.

Oh, he took him down. Guys, I want to use this expression. He's a high-level judoka. But Sadala has some good jiu-jitsu. He won some fights in the UFC in his Ultimate Fighter. Dude. He won some fights with arm bars. He's fighting a high-level judoka.

With beautiful skin. Akima. It's good skin. It's almost gold. It's almost gold. Dude, it's not almost. You can take almost out of that statement. He's got gold skin.

Fuck big ground. How about big gold? You're damn right. Jesus, man. That's not almost. You can take almost out of that statement. He's got gold skin. Fuck big brown. How about big gold? You're damn right. Jesus, man. That's medium gold. We call him medium gold. He makes me look like shit. He's a beautiful man.

Well, there's some Asians that cross into that darker realm of skin. They got a little Polynesian in them. Yeah, Polynesian. He's literally Polynesian. Well, the Thais can get really dark. Or maybe he's just straight Japanese and just fucking goes to the tanning salon. He's Korean. He can goes to the tanning salon. He's Korean.

He can go to the tanning salon. You know what? Can I tell you guys something? It's 2014. You can get that shit. He comes from a different land. He's a golden man. Passing guard. He's got a deep Brazilian.

That's my boyfriend right there. Oh, he jumps right back into it. Why would he step back in? You guys are grapplers. He didn't like it. Okay. He didn't like something. He thought maybe he was going to get his back took.

No, he had the underhook. Yeah, he wouldn't. But why would he go backwards then? That's a sign of... His shorts say body, right? Unsure passer. Some guys like to hold this position too, right? Because they're not comfortable.

Side control. Like half guard for ground power. Most guys who are heavy top grapplers stay in half guard. They're comfortable there. They can do damage and control. Randy said he would have more escapes. Yeah, that's what

Randy was saying. I think his skin is straight up gold. Let's just undevelop Jiu-Jitsu. It's distracting. All I can see is his gold skin.

As well, that's the only thing that matters in this fight. How about the gold shorts to go with the gold skin just to let you know. I love those shorts. Gold on gold,

bitches. Those shorts are perfect. It's like a black-on-black Mercedes. Rolling down the street with high tint. And that boyfriend patch on his shorts. What the fuck is that? What is the boyfriend?

Sexy Akiyama. Do you remember when Sakuraba used to go into the cage with a shirt that just said water? Water, yes. Water and glasses and weird fake glasses. In the Japanese, water just looks so good. It's just like an ancient symbol. Like the word water. Like it's just

beautiful. He was just full of irony. Full of irony. The symmetry to them. The words, right? It looked like hieroglyphs. Wow, we wear goofy shit. We wear Japanese shit.

Dudes have Japanese things tattooed on them. They don't even know what it means. Brian got in, I think it was Chinese. He thought he was getting Brian tattooed on his arm

and it says waterfall. He didn he was getting Brian tattooed on his arm. It says waterfall. He didn't know. He wanted his name tattooed on his arm, and the dude fucked it up. Waterfall. Probably an American dude. Oh, big elbow by Akiyama. Akiyama looks heavy on top. Well, he's such a good grappler.

Those judo guys are so goddamn strong. Yep. Gonzaga is similar to this. Judo guy. Judo guy. Gonzaga is another one. Like Shane Carwin in a lot of ways, his knockout power. When he gets onto the scale, he walks onto the stage where the scale is.

It's a different thing. It's like a stone man is walking off. He's fighting Mitriona. I know. You know what? Sadara just turned that standing clinch against him, you know? Yeah, he's back up. Look at this.

This is a real legit judoka. Amir Sadala. Oh! Back kick. Back kick. No extension. No extension. No extension.

He hit it and then he pulled out of it. Well, and I kind of jammed it, right? Well, it's not that. No. These guys, they don't have the extension it's a they're doing the technique in a way that works too close but it's not the most no even when it's in close man still extend you could extend it whenever you throw that kick it's never bouncing off ever you never bounce off you always extend and land always it's just a

matter of they're doing it wrong. It's a complex technique. There's a lot of steps to the spinning back kick or turning side kick. They're two totally different kicks, really. But everybody started, we always called it the turning side kick in the Taekwondo schools. But when I started doing kickboxing, they would say, show them that spinning back kick. So I would start calling it spinning back kick because I figured that was the karate guys. That's what they called it

But it's a side kick The knee comes up high and there's an extension That's how Akiyama threw it There's the back kick version how Chuck used to throw it With the toes down and the heel up And that's a powerful kick too It's like a donkey kick It's a little different

But you can fuck a guy up with that too It's all a matter of reps And most importantly When you do the reps you have to extend and a lot of guys don't extend. They bounce off of it. Your shorts as body friend all of them

all the ones he throws if they land perfectly, very hard to survive. If we have a video of you hitting somebody with one, that video from that Taekwondo tour, you finally have something that's online. That was a nice one.

It landed. It was good. He just didn't extend. See how he bounced off? It should have been the opposite. The right leg should have been forward. At the end of it, it should have been so much force going forward that his right leg was forward. It should have been a no- no denial thing.

And if you, you throw a front kick, front kick is a perfect example, because it's a pretty easy technique to master. You pick the knee up, it's very normal mechanics, but when you throw a front kick, you almost always go forward with the kick. You very rarely throw a front kick and then pull it all the way back behind you. That's not, it's not a natural movement, because to do the front kick and put weight into it, you're going to naturally step forward. You should do the same thing with a turning

side kick. It's just people, they just haven't been taught right. That's all it is. There's the one thing that drives me nuts. Nice high kick by Sadala. There's the one thing that drives me nuts out of all martial arts techniques. It is that one technique. The spinning back kick or the turning side kick. It drives you nuts. It's the one that drives me nuts because I know

the potential of it. And then I've shown it to people, and they go, I didn't even know this. I'm like, I know you didn't know. There's a lot of people that don't know it. It's just a matter of doing the technique correctly. Like Dennis Seaver, he does it correctly. Fuck yeah, he does. When that guy throws it, that motherfucker extends. And you never know what's coming.

Because he'll throw that shit only like once or twice in a fight. Wouldn't you say you and him have similar builds for that kick, though? That's why he's so good at it? No, because my friend Larry Jones had a better turning sidekick than me. How big is Larry Jones? Larry was like 6'3", 6'4", somewhere around then, and he fought at heavyweight in Taekwondo tournaments. Larry, I was always short, but Larry was always, he had these ridiculous legs.

They would go up to his tits, And he would throw this front leg sidekick. You couldn't fuck with it. The reason I developed my front leg sidekick the way I developed it was because of my friend Larry. His is way superior to mine. There was like three guys that had these vicious front leg sidekicks. Like Conor McGregor almost, right? No, no. Way better.

Way better. But he's pretty good with those. Yes, he's good with it. You see guys who've been doing it their whole life. I'm telling you, there was this. They can break your insides, man. They use it as defense. As you come in, they'll time it and use your body.

As you move in, they'll back kick you. They just don't have all the other stuff. Yeah. They're just missing all the other stuff. Akiyama keeps getting hit with this head kick, man, this left high kick. Yeah, but Amir's just grazing him with it. I know, you're not committing to it. My friend Leroy Rodriguez, he had kicks, front leg kicks, that were so fucking fast,

when people would spar him, like when he was in his prime, he was like one of J. Kim's top black belts. Oh, big right hand. Nice right. He tagged him. Nice right. Akiyama's got a vicious right hand, man. This dude, him and Larry Jones, this other dude, his name was Major Battle.

That was his real name. Larry Leroy Major Battle. The black guys in Puerto Ricans. You walk into the gym, don't fuck with Larry Leroy Major Battle. Meanwhile, three of the nicest guys you would ever want to meet. Leroy's still a good friend to this day. But if you saw those guys throw front leg kicks it would change your whole idea of what's possible with those things oh especially oh he's hurting oh no amir's in

trouble oh amir's still throwing that kick he got tagged again it's tough man just amir's pretty good at keeping guys off of him but he's getting tagged about this he's got to get some distance here good ground and pound man but look amir's got the feet on the hips. But those judo guys are always so good standing up. So heavy. Dude, he's got him dead to rights here. Look at this. Oh, look at this, Amir. Going for a try.

Throwing up some shit. Not going to work. Oh, man. Yeah. Akiyama said, oh, you guys put words on your shorts? Fuck that. Check this picture of a watch out. I have gold skin, bitches.

I got gold skin. Picture of a watch. I'm a chosen one. Check out my dick. It's right between your legs. Amaratsu. Amaratsu. The sun god, Amaratsu, has chosen me to be his messenger.

But my point was, when I'm talking about these kicks, Shob, you got long-ass fucking legs, dude. You could throw some vicious kicks. If you ever met my friend Larry, who's like your size, and you saw what that guy can do with his front leg, he would fold bags in half with his front leg sidekick. Just... Just extend.

You know, his big black guy. And just long fucking legs. And just extend. Folding bags in half. With a front foot sidekick? He would kickbox guys, long fucking legs and just extend. Ugh. Ugh. Folding bags and abs. Folding. And you couldn't... With a front foot sidekick? He would kickbox guys and dudes who had never

faced a guy that had a front leg like that, they had no idea what to do with him. Right. They couldn't figure out how to get in on him. Really hard.

The problem with it though is it was all being developed when there was no leg kicks. So I think a good Thai guy would just start attacking his legs and it would limit a lot of the techniques you could pull off.

But those guys were all above-the-waist kickboxers, and he was fucking them up. And all that tells me is that that's a technique that's not being utilized. Oh, good up kicks by Amir. Thai guys don't use back kicks, though. Sometimes they do. Some of those guys do, especially the guys, the Muay Thai guys from Holland. They'll mix shit up.

Badarhari, that motherfucker throws wheel kicks. If you're going to raise a fighter from the time he's five and on, Muay Thai guys from Holland, they'll mix shit up. Badarhari, that motherfucker throws wheel kicks. It's almost better. If you're going to raise a fighter from the time he's five and on, it's almost better to get him into Taekwondo early to get him used to the aerials and all the fancy, crazy kicks. But that's the question. And then at 12, get him into Muay Thai. So he'd be learning Muay Thai, but he'll still throw those spinning kicks.

But they're both two different distances, and it's two different techniques. Yeah, but it's not. So if you had a five-year-old and you had to train him, what do you start him with? Do you start him with Taekwondo? Yeah. And gymnastics. It's also you're going to develop the dexterity for those weird moves that are super dangerous when you get really good at them. Like, you know, Eddie always equates, oh, look, it's the dog.

It gets out from the back door. Almost. Is he out? Yes. Nice. I put my kid in jujitsu at five. Well, Eddie always equates Oh look it's the dog It's out from the back door Almost Is he out? Yes Nice I put my kid in jujitsu at five Well Eddie always equates it That's not a bad call either

But Eddie always equates it to Like rubber guard techniques Because like If someone If you teach someone Rubber guard techniques And it's the first time They've tried it

Like oh this shit isn't gonna work I'm not flexible enough Well that's the same thing If you show someone a wheel kick You tell me the wheel kick's Never gonna work Hold a pad For a guy like Barboza Hold a pad And someone a wheel kick you tell me the wheel kicks never gonna work Hold the pad for a guy like Barbosa hold the pad and let him wheel kick right and you hit that pad you go Oh shit, I need to know this. Yep

There's always a force is a prize opponent to really focus on that and you're gonna be tired away from us You got to be terrified of that wheel kick. Yeah, I got terrified of us You gotta be terrified of all of his case part of the training camp Yeah, stay away from that motherfucker Every day they're gonna be dealing with it Stop two fucking guys In the UFC with leg kicks I mean his kicks are brutal

Look what Jon Jones is doing I would suggest And I don't know shit because I've never fought in MMA But I would guess I would hypothesize If you want to be a striker, or you want to be a fighter, rather, in the UFC, if you're interested in

fighting in the UFC and challenging for the belt one day, do what Jon Jones is doing as far as everything on your feet, including the wrestling, and the striking especially. He's throwing everything. Jon Jones is throwing everything.

Spinning back fists. Spinning back elbows. Turning side kicks. Kung fu kicks to the side. Improvising. There's not a kick that he hasn't thrown. Can't plan for it. Maybe the jump spinning inside crescent kick.

We really haven't seen that one. Only in Jackie Chan movies. That's the last kick. That's the last of the kicks. Well, you know, there's a spinning crescent kick that's really effective. Do you know what I'm talking about? When you're coming in with this side like this. Oh, no, I know, I know.

We haven't seen that one. Well, it doesn't work too much, for me at least, it didn't work too much this way. Like the inside crescent kick I gave up on a long time ago. What if you heard a guy standing and he's kind of, and then you finish with that motherfucker. Have you ever seen me do a spinning crescent kick i never showed you that yeah you showed me everything i'm sure no no i bet i haven't it's like you hit like this with

the outside of the foot like that you spin i haven't seen a knockout with that either we haven't seen a knockout with that it's a close range kick it's a weird kick you do it from a different range i never did it but my friend Shorter was really good at it. My friend Ed Shorter knocked out guys with that. He had a wicked spinning crescent kick. He would throw that more than he would throw the wheel kick. It was an awkward technique. I think Jon Jones throws everything except those.

I think we saw those are the last new kick I think was to make a big impact in all of MMA and how everyone trains is that front snap kick and the rear snap kick right to the jaw, right to the chest. Travis Brown be throwing them. I know you've been studying that shit. And also Josh Thompson throws them a lot. Cerrone throws them a lot. And, of course, Kakuno is known for that shit. So now that is the hottest kick right now.

That's the newest, hottest kick that people are actually spending time trying to master it. When before, there was no special time spent for that front snap kick. But now it's real. And we even talked about that on video. That's the craziest thing ever. We talked about it years ago. You know what's the next kick, man? I asked you in your gym.

I didn't think so. I said, why haven't we seen the front snap kick to the fucking jaw? And then you said some great shit about it. And then, boom, that's when Anderson or... Landed on Vitor. Yeah, that was the first one. And then Machida on Ranniketour. And then now everyone's fucking throwing them.

And then your boy Travis Brown on Alistair Overeem. Yeah. You know what I think the next one is? The axe kick. Axe kicks are very effective, man. We don't really see them. Holly Holm throws them. There was this guy, this Canadian guy.

His name was Jersey Long. And that was one of the reasons why I realized how effective and powerful axe kicks were. There was this guy, John Lee, who had a really good axe kick, who was a national Taekwondo champion. Why haven't we seen it in MMA more? Because we haven't seen a guy who was really good at it. There's a guy named Jersey Long that was from Canada

and he had a fucking axe kick that was like a rifle shot. It would just, it would be up and on your jaw before you knew it was happening. It's just like,

bah! He just had this. We're going to see that. He would be sparring and he would just step in full split and slam you on the head with that heel.

Jesus Christ. He knocked my friend Larry Jones out cold. Or maybe, you know, in the beginning. and jesus he knocked my friend larry jones out cold or maybe you know in the beginning larry maybe in the beginning my friend that i was telling you how good he is yeah that's the guy got knocked out cold by let by this guy jersey long you know we've seen it in k1 a few times but no legit well andy hoog andy hoog and i andy hoog had all sort of technique we haven't seen the spinning wheel kick to the leg yes hoog was the master at that he would dig that heel into the leg it was. Hug was the master at that. He would dig that heel

into the leg. It was a straight movie kung fu kick. Yeah. Where he would get down, squat down, do like a spinning break dancing move and do a wheel kick to the guy's thigh. A low wheel kick. It's like doing a wheel kick but almost on your ass. Sadala trying to set

something up. What was the greatest crazy movie technique of all time? I say it was Rio Chonan submitted Anderson Silva with that fucking flying flying heel hook. I think that was like the greatest all time movie technique in an MMA fight. That's happened

in grappling. Yeah, but in like fighting Anderson Silva in an MMA fight. It's true. And you're Rio Chonan. Rio Chonan. Hell of an underdog. You're fighting the guy at Shoot the Box. He caught him in a good time.

Anderson wasn't at Shoot the Box anymore. You know, they had, like, uh. He was at Anderson-Anderson at the time, though, wasn't he? No, he wasn't quite. He wasn't quite. The match before me and Hoyler went the first time in 2003, went against a guy named Charles Pearson the match right before me and that guy did a fucking flight the exact same heel hook that Rio Chonan did on Anderson and almost had him he almost tapped out Hoyler Gracie a lot of people don't know

that Hoyler escaped by the skin of his teeth and then got his back and then choked oh my god have you since the fight? We talk all the time. Okay. Yeah, we hang out and party and shit. Just checking. He got you again, you fuck.

The guard, oh, you weren't here for the guard talk. Eddie Bravo has the weirdest sense of humor, man. He sneaks things out. We talk all the time.

Eddie Bravo, no bullshit. If he wasn't such a great jiu-jitsu fighter and he wasn't so into musicians. I'd make a great troll. He would be a great

fucking comedian he just didn't have the time to get into it I talked to him when he was going on stage he went on stage like 8 or 9 times really?

I did a few times whatever a couple times it didn't work out oh he stopped I had this no no he dominated

he dominated though how did he get on top? did they just end the fight? did we have the worst commentators ever. I've been watching it, though. I've been watching the worst thing. It's totally like missing the fight. Imagine if the UFC said, listen, man, we've been thinking about your commentary.

We heard you've been doing this fight past thing. You're fucking terrible. You guys are awful. You don't even pay attention to the fights. Brian Stanton's doing these all from now on. See, that was good movement by Akiyama. Very relaxed. Even though the head kick was coming. Just slid out of the fights. Brian Stanton's doing these all from now on. Oh, see, that was good movement by Akiyama. Very relaxed, even though the head kick was coming. Just slid out of the way.

Nice right hand. Akiyama just dominated this fight. He's such a stud athlete. But see that? That's like some blue belt shit. Yeah. But that's also on a moving target. You know, he's also tossed it.

Yeah, he's fighting an MMA fight. That's the one technique that I think. I'm telling you, man. There's going to be some Francis Carmel dude who knows how to throw a fucking axe kick. You see that cut, Francis? I believe it. I believe it. One by one.

Every Kung Fu kick that was once laughed at is one by one. They're all coming back. I'm telling you, that is the one. God damn you guys love you some Kung Fu and Taekw one. They're all coming back. I'm telling you, that is the one. God damn, you guys love you some Kung Fu and Taekwondo. It's all coming back.

I won a Taekwondo tournament with an axe kick. Isn't that more exciting than it does actually work? I love some of that up in this bitch. It's way better than all those Kung Fu kicks

actually work than they don't work. Brandon Schaub, could you imagine if you fucking axe kicked Travis Brown in the head? Could you imagine how nutty the world would go if you had the first axe kick KO in the UFC?

You step in and blam! On a 6-6 kick. How crazy would this be? For six months, Brandon Shaw fucking goes nuts. You decide for six months to just really dive into kicks. And you want to, in six months, you want to transform yourself into this fucking vicious kicker wouldn't that be crazy dude you're a sponge i could do it for you're a sponge i don't have no time for that shit you have to find a real trainer you found the right trainer

who could teach you teach you that style of kicking dude you would be a you would be fucking guys up the amount of power you have in your legs i've seen you sprint i. I've seen you lift weights. I've seen you do deadlifts. All these things you're doing, what are you building? You're building up your core, your whole column, but you're also building up your fucking legs. That apple bottom is ridiculous. That apple bottom is launching bones

at your opponent. Just launching bones. That's what you're doing. You're launching shin bones. If there's one bone you wouldn't want to get hit in the fucking face with it's the shin bone number one what a terrible blade of a bone that's the one bone that's shaped like a weapon all these other ones are covered up with meat true you know even an elbow like you got to catch a motherfucker on the point of an elbow to otherwise you're hitting with a forearm smash and there's a lot of meat involved in the forearm smash when you shin someone to the dome that's a fucking that's a weird edged bone

man this is a weird feeling true that fucking comes at you 60 miles an hour on your head especially from something intense creepy fuck who really knows how to kick hard. Some man-hoof dude. Man-hoof. Some man-hoof. Oh, some scary fucker. Just throwing these laser beam kicks at your head. Through his man-hoof at you.

I'm telling you, anybody who doubts me, you just needed to see Pedro Hizzo in his prime. Brian, where'd you get those golden pickles from? They're inside. They're in their room. They're good, right? They're addictive. You want me to see Pedro Hizzo in his prime. Brian, where'd you get those golden pickles from? They're inside. They're in their room. They're good, right? There's a couple of bottles. You want me to get them out? Get them out, man.

Should we get them out? Yeah, get them out. Should we get them out? Get them out. Get them out, man. They've got many, many jars in there. Grillo's pickles are very generous. They sent me a giant fucking case of them.

They're the best pickles of all time. Real quick, this is the latest I've stayed up in, oh, about 10 years. Dude, you're going to be fine. Since college. Oh, yeah're going to be fine Since college Oh yeah, I'll be fine It's only 2 o'clock in the morning I know You got training tomorrow?

We're in California I did double today to make up for it If you were in Hawaii, it would only be 11pm That's how you got to look at shit, man We should all be in Hawaii Right through that door Right through that door There's a curtain

Pull that back There you go We should all be in Hawaii Let's be realistic If we could all make a choice to bail and go to one place and bring our families and everybody exist it'd probably be like the big island i'd be one i want to be bj penn's neighbor i'd love it just all hang out together make our own little village just hang out just bang hawaiian chicks no you can't do that our wives are this shit we're married we're not we're kidding.

These are jokes. We're married. What I think we would do is have a good time by the water, be with our families. Oh, did you guys collide? We scared each other. Eddie Bravo and Brennan Shaw just scared the shit out of each other. There's a rumor. Hey, Brennan. There's a rumor that Tyron Woodley.

You guys want me to move to Hawaii right now? No, that Tyron Woodley. You're thinking about it. I'll move to fucking Hawaii. That's what I'm saying. You know what we'd do to some... That's not what I just said. Hey, we're married.

I just said we won't do that. Bro, what are you saying? We would go fishing. You guys can put masks on and watch me. Okay, fine. I'll hold the video camera. I was there a few months ago. Oh, shit.

Oh, Miles Drury and Takanori Gomi. Oh, shit. This dude was telling me that you got to go there like in March or April to the big island. He said that's when the whales, they're either breeding or giving birth. I don't remember which, but he said they're everywhere. He said it's almost dangerous to be out in your boat. Wow. Because you're out in the boat and the whales will breach like 20 yards from you.

Guy was killed on a sailboat that way. Killed on a sailboat. That guy was a pussy. I would have saw the whale I wouldn't have panicked I would have dove in the water I would have just gone in the water Just hold the whale up

And I would have yelled help Because their ears are really good And they would have come by Here's a trivia question we've already asked How much does a blue whale's heart weigh? Same as my dick As much as a car If you put my dick next to a blue whale On heart weigh. Same as my dick. Much as a car. As much as a car. If you put my dick

next to a blue whale on a scale, it would balance out. Blue whale's heart weighs 1,500 pounds. That's about what my dick weighs. Close.

That's about. Well, my dick is made out of dark matter. Gomi fought Nick Diaz, right? Yeah. Yeah. He fought Nate. Nate and Nick.

Both of them lit him up. Nate lit him up with strikes then i believe caught him in an arm bar and uh nick caught him with a gogo plata how big of a star was gomi back in the day nick tested so high for marijuana they believe he might have been high while he was fighting oh no oh yes. Oh, yes. He won. You know, people were arguing, like, oh, you know, that, like, the pain that he got when he got hit with those shots, he didn't feel it because he was high on marijuana. That's the one thing that you have to argue. Like, well, marijuana is prescribed for pain. Yeah.

I mean, it is. True. Right? I mean, I would imagine it would help your ability to absorb pain. That's a real argument. You guys absorb pain. That's a real argument. You guys tell me. That's a real advantage. You tell me.

You never knows the Mary Jane better than anyone. When I was sparring, when I was doing kickboxing, I wasn't smoking weed back then. I didn't. If that was true, everybody would be high fighting. But they can't. They get tested. Everybody gets tested. That doesn't make any sense.

But getting punched in the face hard with a right, I don't think we's going to help you with that. It helps if you're Nick Diaz. I bet Nick Diaz gets in there lit up. I bet he doesn't give a fuck. I just feel like he wouldn't give a fuck anyway. Maybe they wouldn't be fighting but off the off-scene. Nick Diaz would eat your jab sober or high. A lot of guys don't like to train technique

high, though. It's kind of interesting. They say they don't learn things as good high. Like when someone's trying to show you a stutter step and an attack like sometimes they get a little bit twisted up But when they can just flow with what they know once it's in the DNA, that's where the weed comes in Right. Yeah, when you're high muscle memory work on instincts way You flow. Yeah Yeah, yeah, but when you're not high there's glitches

here and there because you have so much shit on your mind you're thinking about stupid shit I actually came up with some bits

when I smoked some weed and drank some wine I actually was that 10 years ago I was on stage and I came up with some bits

are you saying that as if it's a new thing it is that's how you do comedy you get high and you go on stage and you come up with new shit

you're ridiculous that's hilarious hey bro what'd you say about 10 years ago That's how you do comedy. You get high and you go on stage and you come up with new shit. You're ridiculous. That's hilarious. Hey, bro. What'd you say about 10 years ago? What'd you say? Because I'm about to... This Sunday... What happened?

This Sunday, I'm doing my one hour. Come on down. When he said he was high making new stuff, I said, was that 10 years ago? Are you saying that I'm right? Oh, he's being mean to you. Is that what you're saying? When was the last time you saw me do stand-up? I've seen you stand-up about 60 times.

I'm saying if I come down to Irvine on Sunday and I see El Gato, I'm going to choke you out this day. Dude, first of all, don't kill my friend's confidence. He's about to go film a special. He can't kill my friend. No, he knows this. Don't bring up the nature of his bits, which will fucking ruin him for the thousands of people that listen to this podcast. So let's not delve into any material.

It's not just that either. You're working thematically, so my one hour, you'll see completely new stuff. Totally new. I'll be there then. Thematically. You'll be there. This makes my dick hard. I feel conflict between you two guys.

Is this because of the fighter and the kid? He didn't invite me to dinner tonight. What? Didn't you have a set? What's up, bro? You told me you had a set, man. You said you had a set. You live in Phoenix. At 11, bro. I don't get calls anymore. You guys still friends? I'm in camp,

though. Yeah, but my field... Oh, now he's in camp. He is in camp, though. You can't get needy. He's weird. I know. It's weird when he gets in camp. Well, he has to be. It's the end of it. I know. He knows. I'm really not in camp, though. You can't get needy. He's weird. I know. It's weird when he gets in camp. Well, he has to be. I know. He knows I'm... I'm really not in camp yet. What can you do, though?

They tell you you gotta fight. I trained three times a day. Meanwhile, we gave Callan a hard time for chewing on Mike, and everyone's chewing on Mike. You hear that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've been chewing on these pickles like a fucking... Shob was giving him the hardest time, and he was chewing right into that fucking mic.

I was fucking... He's only 35 years old. Yes, he is. I deep-throated these hot-ass pickles. Those are delicious. They are delicious. I don't like... I'm not into that.

You want a pickle? Yeah, I'm not into these. Those taste like caca. No, we're out. We're out. Those taste like caca. Yeah, we're out. These are...

I'm not a fan of these. These are sea salt pop-pops. Those pickles are fucking... I ate all the really good shit. Straight pops. Those pickles are fucking straight heaven. Those pickles are the best ever. Aren't they good, Kellen? You know what, though? When you chew on a pickle, though, the mic's going to pick it up.

They're so fucking crunchy and fresh. Like, you could go in the other room. I can hear that shit. I wish we had some of them sriracha cashews. God damn it. Right now, I could go for some fucking sriracha cashews. It's like we have to eat pickles, though. Do you have a warrior bar here?

I don't have shit here. Everyone's asking for shit. No, man. All we have is hot ass pickles. We need to stock up. We've got pickles. And stevia. Pickles and stevia.

Yeah, we need to get more snacks here. If someone ordered a pizza, I wouldn't yell at you. I don't think pizzas are going to deliver at 2 o'clock in the morning, brother. Where are we living? In New York City? We're in the valley, son. Shit shuts down. I live in Venice, son.

There's pizza everywhere. And the door to your studio is kind of scary looking. Of course it is. You should be scared. There's a werewolf in there. Open the door. Can you imagine? You deliver a fucking pizza.

You open the door. You see that thing? Yep. I'm Yanni. Yanni's working overtime. We got to stock some snacks in this bitch. and you deliver a fucking pizza, you open the door, I see that thing. Yep. I mean, I mean. I mean, I mean, he's working overtime. Yeah, we got to, we got to stock some snacks

on this bitch. Well, I got a new nature box coming this week. Nature box. Do you guys use that? Do those Mario bars taste like, like sweet or what?

No, no, no, no. Well, it's cranberries and buffalo. Dude, it's super healthy for you. 140. What does it taste like? It tastes good. It tastes like a beef jerky type bar.

Beef jerky. But it's easy to chew. More fresh, right? There's no artificial preservatives. There's no... Artificial sweeteners? No, no, no. There's nothing.

There's nothing artificial in it. It's brand new, right? We've had it for a couple months now. I would look and tell you exactly what's in it. Cranberries. They sent me 10 of them in a box. I ate them in two days. I felt sick.

There's 14 grams of protein. 140 calories. Jamie, go grab another bottle of them. Get another one, man. Those Warrior Bars are something else, man. Really good for you, too. Only 2 grams of fat, 140 calories, 14 grams of protein. It's just super healthy.

And that's how they used to preserve them, I guess. They used to use cranberries and sea salt. When they used to have to get sea salt, man, they used to have to take salt water from the ocean and boil it down. Actual fucking sea salt. So what do they do now? I don't know boil it down. Actual sea salt. Actual fucking sea salt. That's how they got their salt. So what do they do now? I don't know.

But they still call it sea salt, right? I mean, some of it is sea salt. Some of it is iodized. I mean, some of it is made in a lab, I guess. I don't know how the fuck they make salt. Salt is a stone. I know the Himalayan. Oh!

Miles Jury! Jury's a beast, man. Oh, Kobe's fucked. He's, oh, it's over, dude. It's over. Damn, Miles Jury with a big win. Fuck, he's good, man. With a big win. Well, you know what? Big right hand Oh Kobe's fucked He's Oh it's over dude It's over Damn Miles Jury With a big win

With a big win Undefeated Jury hasn't lost yet The kid keeps getting better too He's putting in the work man He's putting in the work He's down there at Alliance in San Diego huh

Yeah That's a big KO He has a jiu jitsu gym too In San Diego Miles Jury does? He has his own jiu jitsu Yeah No shit What happened there man He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu gym, too, in San Diego. Miles Jury does? He has his own jiu-jitsu? No shit. What happened there, man?

He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu. Damn, I didn't know that. Yeah, jiu-jitsu's his strong point. He's just a nasty-ass striker, too. Damn, and he's a tall kid. Look at this. Look at this. Good movement.

Very smart fighter. Bang! Oh, that was a nice right hand. Oh, oh. Nothing you can do. Well, Gomi is this weird kind of striker. He's a knockout puncher, but everything is home runs. It's all home runs.

And it just doesn't seem like he's setting things up in any traditional way. The game's passing by a little bit, let's be honest. But is it the game passing by, or is he not as fired up as he was when he was younger? Both. He doesn't have the body that he had when he was younger too. Oh my gosh, they're good. It's fucking tough.

Those pickles are insane. The hot ones too. Yeah, I like the hot. They got like habaneros and shit. If you got balls, you eat those

after you eat the pickles. Dig in there. Powerful Miles Jury. The kid's really impressing me. Undefeated. Me too. Super impressive.

He's going to be tough to beat. Yeah, his gist is really good, Eddie. Damn. 11th first round finish. That's incredible. Boy, these pickles are not easy to get into, though. I'm going to be honest.

He won the English tough. I forget. No, no, no, no. He's from America. No, he's just a beast from San Diego. He's from Alliance. He's a Cali kid. Yeah.

What? I thought he was English. No. Oh, shit. You're confusing him with Dan Hardy because they're both sexy. He's a cute guy. That's a bad motherfucker right there. Fuck yeah, dude.

Look at his movement, man. Very nice. Look at this setup for this right here. See his movement against Diego Sanchez? Yeah. Ridiculous. Very good. Bam, good ground and pounding.

That was his first big win. The Diego Sanchez, he's putting a lot of weight behind those punches, too. A lot of length and a lot of weight. Diego was his first big win. He outclassed Diego. It was a good fight, man. Do you practice up kicks, Brendan? I don't.

You shouldn't be giving this up on the air. Oh, okay. Charles Brown can text me if he wants. Look, it's really the only thing to really counteract that ground and pound from the horse stance position. Oh, you're saying the up kicks. Oh, yeah, yeah. My bad. I thought you were saying from stitch.

Yeah, 100%. You've got to be good at closing. You've got to be really good. That's the perfect spot for him to avoid submissions and be able to throw punches and stay standing on your feet and squat. Yeah. Because you could reach the face and right there there's no submissions. Yeah. But the only thing you've got to worry about is those up kicks.

Yep. Because you're in a perfect spot for an up kick. So you would think that most MMA fighters would work on that a little bit, right? Yeah, we do. There's levels, man. I still haven't seen anybody throw kicks off their back as hard as hoists. I'll tell you what, man. He is very good. Crow Cop's freaking nasty, Adam. He hit me with an up kick to my knee and to the face.

It was like boom, boom. You would think a kickboxer would be the best at them, right? It was literally like that movie Rush Hour. Which one of y'all kicked me? It was like boom boom. You would think a kickboxer would be the best at them, right? It was literally like that movie Rush Hour. Which one of y'all kicked me? Well, you know who the first guy was to kick really good off of his back? One of the most impressive early day Henzo Gracie against Oleg Tektarov.

Remember him? He KO'd him from his back and then stood up and blasted him in the face with a punch and broke his hand. Do you remember the story? That was bare knuckled. The story was nobody like Henzo actually practiced up kicks to get really good at them. And Murillo Bustamante thought, because I guess they were close, thought it was a waste of time. Look at that, son.

Until Henzo pulled it off. Oh, bitch. Oh, shit. Large portion of head strikes. Dude. Is that to your head or from your head? That's delivering. Son.

Damn. Minimum 300 attempts. Wow. Not a big deal. It's whatever. Not bad, brother. We got work to do. My man's in shape.

I'll go train right now, son. I got some kettlebells here. Don't tempt it, brother. I'm all hyped up on fucking bulletproof coffee, and I've ate about 17 hot pickles. I'm either going to shit my pants or get a workout in. You pick, gentlemen. I want both. Both will make you sweat.

No, dude, I got kettlebells here and an archery target. We get crazy. We get fucking crazy. I'll pull that out. Look how thick that dude is. You get into bows and arrows or what? Nah. I love it.

It's fun. It's fun, man. Hey, I thought you were going to make fun of me when we went to your house. Sure. I got some. crazy i don't think that dude is you get into bows and arrows or what not really it's fine hey i thought you're gonna make fun of me when we went to your house sure i got some when we went to your house and you released those chickens i was scared as shit around the chickens i told my brother i told my brother and my friend my friend clob i was like fuck man uh rogan released those chickens i was scared as fuck hey but i was trying to act tough i'm not i'm not used to like wild animals release those chickens i was scared as fuck man. I'm not used to wild animals. We're just those chickens. I was scared as fuck, man. Well, I'm starting to develop a farm.

That's my first step. My first step is having all these chickens. I got like 24 chickens. I think it'd be nice. I want to do it personally, but I think ultimately the best move would be, and I've said this before, the best move would be if friends, you know how Uriah Faber lives? Lives on a corner. I agree, man. They own all these houses. They own the whole corner. The whole neighborhood. It if, like, friends. You know how Uriah Faber lives? He lives on a corner. I agree, man.

They own all these houses. They own the whole corner. The whole neighborhood. It's like the whole neighborhood. It's a dope move. It's you and your homies. If someone could figure out how we could all do something like that. And who lives with Uriah Faber?

All his family? Well, Uriah Faber has his own house, but Chad Mendez lives right next to him. And Uriah owns a few houses, too. He rents it to all of them. Yeah. It's all his training camp homies and his friends all live in the same area. They call it the block. It's a brilliant idea.

So they have like this whole area where they're all like, they go grilling together. They have parties. They have people come over. And they're super friendly dudes. So it's like a real warm, fun environment. And all this camaraderie. They all live together like that. And I've always felt like that would be the best thing if like all of our yards board each other and then you fucking grow

vegetables together that would be dope when i was a kid dude when i was a kid when i was a kid my dad was in this thing my stepfather was in this um it was like a cooperative thing in school and they would grow plants together and they would all work it was in the university and they would all grow like a bunch of different and i remember going there and thinking this is what a great idea this is like everybody would contribute like some days like he brought me down there on like a tuesday and i remember it very clearly because this goat attacked me this fucking male goat like i was hanging out i was little man i was like seven years old and this fucking goat starts headbutting me and i'm grabbing the goat like i was hanging out i was little man it was like seven years old and

this fucking goat starts headbutting me and i'm grabbing the goat and i'm freaking out and then he came over and jacked the goat and like get the fuck out of here bitch pushed the female goat started attacking me when i was holding on to the male goat because she decided i was the enemy i've been not only as a fucking dirty cunt i've been feeding her just a few minutes ago yeah i remember so I remember it very clearly But I remember this thing What a great idea to have a bunch of vegetables Growing right there

And if you do that and you've got chickens Just vegetables and chickens You've got days of food I'm down for the chickens and vegetables How about we just get a bunch of badass cars We like share cars We get girls There's drugs

So dirty retire That's that's one wait till you retire at least hey, but not in Calabasas will stood when did Michael be a jang No, you what I'm thinking right now Sometimes you forget you're on there Fucking slick DJ time. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Dude, Mike Over looks sharp. He looks sharp.

When did Mike Over start DJing? He could be running the tables at Hakkasan. What is that? The one at the MGM? Yeah, Hakkasan. The back of Mike's head. He looks like he was taking a nap. How dare you?

I'm just saying. He's wearing headphones, man. He doesn't have the luxury of the shaved head. You're the one who called him a DJ now. I can't say he's a nap. He's a sweet guy. How dare you? You're a three-piece suit. I like him. He's great. Three-piece suit shaved head. You're the one who called him a DJ now. I can't say it's not. Sweet guy. How dare you. Three-piece suit.

Three-piece suit, man. Great guy. He's a sweetie. No, I like Michael. He's a sweetie. Oh, he's a good guy. We were talking about this before. Yeah, we were.

We weren't on air. We were talking about Mark Hunt Bigfoot and the difference between the kind of punishment that Bigfoot was able to take in that fight, which is incredible. And then his last fight with Orlovsky, two shots and he's down. Oh, you're talking about when he's off TRT? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. Crazy advantage he gives guys. Is that the case, or is it just the case of the standard

thing of seeing guys just have Daniel Cormier knocked him out, you know, there's a bunch of fights, he's taken a lot of damage in fights, Cain Velasquez fucked him up in his last fight. I'm just saying, man, when you're on TRT and fighting down in Australia, and you're eating right and left hands from Mark Hunt, and then you fight in Brazil off TRT and you get knocked out with one punch,

God, it's a good argument, man. I'm not saying it is, but it's a fucking good argument. Kind of, but isn't it also, look, the Hunt fight. Because Arlovsky punched me in the face several times. Didn't feel shit. You know what I'm saying? And Bigfoot's been taking punishment before. It's weird, man.

Right, but isn't it true, though, that sometimes you get punched in the face, and you're just getting punched on the cheek. True. Or you're getting punched here. It's placement. It's placement, man. You can get one dink across the tip of the chin and the legs just go. It's not even the chin. Most of the time it's behind the ear on the side of the head or behind the ear.

That's what I'm saying. Marshall got tagged tonight. He got tagged right behind the ear. Marshall got hit there. When DC fought Bigfoot, he tagged him behind the ear. Cain Velasquez got hit behind the ear against JDS. I got hit behind the ear against Big Country. I got hit behind the ear against Big Country. It's all about placement, man.

Big Country's really good at that looping right hand and lands it. The best. Casting style, right? He lands it a lot of different ways. If I was a betting man and you made me pick, I would say Roy is going to land that. He's going to wobble hunt, then he's going to take him down and TKO him. Wow. That's a crazy thing.

In the second round. Do you remember when Roy was just a grappler? Yeah. It was a long time ago when Eddie and I first met Roy. A long, long time ago. He really doesn't use it anymore. It's crazy. It's crazy because the dude didn't even start striking until 2009.

When I interviewed him in the boom, look how fucking hard he hits, bro. Oh, God. When I interviewed him in the uh boom how fucking hard he hits oh god when i interviewed his mentality he's ferocious and his chin is iron granite chin the only time he's been stopped is arlovsky stopped him i think that's the only time and that was a ridiculous situation because he had arlovsky down in side control and they stood him up. It was ridiculous. It was pathetic. But see, he didn't even start striking until 2009. I mean, think of that. He's knocked out Noguera, knocked out Mitrione. You see, knocked out Dave Herman there.

There's Tukshir. Oh, that was... That was Kongo. Boom! Look at that right hand. Boom! Left hook. Boom!

Dude. Roy's also a smart fight so when the going gets rough in this fight and they're trading bombs Hunt has to keep trading what's Hunt gonna do take him down nope Roy can't take him down Roy's gonna say fuck this abandon ship emergency break boom I'm taking it down right I can win the fight. Huck just says, nah, I gotta keep throwing. You fought Roy. That's the difference. Is he the hardest hitter that you've ever fought? No. Well, it's tough. Shane's the hardest you've ever been hit by. Yes. Roy hit me behind the ear.

Roy landed three right hands. Two were straight on. I didn't feel anything. Like we said, hit me here, hit me here. Then the one I turned on a jab, it hit me behind the ear, and that was the ending shot. So I really didn't feel it. He's so good at landing that shot, too. But if you look case by case, Roy has

to be the hardest hitter. You know what I'm saying? It's amazing. It's the leverage, and the way he throws that right hand, just reckless as shit, and all the power. And also this fucking confidence in his chin. I mean, Junior Dos Santos hit him with everything but the fucking kitchen sink.

How about Verdun? Dude, he thought he won the Verdun fight. Yeah, eating those knees. He was like, that guy never hurt me. I mean, he's a fucking animal, bro. He's an animal. You know what's tough, though? And everyone here loves Roy.

At some point, that crazy durability chin, it could be this fight. It could be ten fights from now. It just goes away. It's like, oh, shit. Or he is just that country motherfucker that you hear about that lives up in the mountain and chops wood with his face and doesn't give a fuck. He could fight 170. There's no one like that, though, is there? You think Fado would be that guy.

Right. He could fight 170. No, not 170. I'm kidding. I'm being silly. He could fight 170. No, not 170. I'm kidding. I'm being silly. But, I mean, he's got a lot of weight on him. Well, he's weighing about, like, what is he weighing? 250?

260. 260. Is it possible that that beard could absorb punishment? No, no, no. Is it possible? Nah. No? Otherwise, Kimbo Slice would be the champ.

You know what I'm saying? That dude had a gnarly-ass beard. Straight up belly. I remember when I trained with him, I was, like, guillotine. I'm like? That dude had a gnarly ass beard. He's got straight up the best beard ever. I remember when I trained with him, I was like guilty. I'm like, oh my God. You jerry curled all over your hand. I mean, he has got a, there's no reason. Kimmel Slice had the best look of all time.

You know what? Giant musket. Nicest fighter I know. The greatest guy. Nicest fighter I know. He's a sweetheart. You know who I'm having on my podcast, man? Kid Cudi. Kid Cudi. Houston Alexander. Aren't you having Kid Cudi on? Yeah, I'm having Kidest fighter I know. He's a sweetheart. You know who I'm having on my podcast, man? Kid Cudi.

Houston Alexander. Aren't you having Kid Cudi on? Yeah, I'm having Kid Cudi on on Monday. That's fucking huge. Me and my brother are huge Kid Cudi fans. Yeah, he's awesome. When he sits down, he'd say, Big Brown loves you. I'm going to tell him.

Big Brown loves you. I'll probably even walk out to one of his songs if he's cool. Yeah, for sure. Dude, I'll tell him. I'll tell him on Monday. Give Big Brown a shout out. I'll walk out to one of his songs. I'll tell him on Monday, man.

God, he's good. Yeah, he's good. But I'm going to get Houston Alexander on, too. He's another motherfucker. God damn, Houston Alexander. He had some power. He had some power. You want to talk about Styles makes fight?

How about when Houston and Kimbo slide? Everyone's like, oh, shit. This will be the fight of the century. Literally, the whole fight you watch like this. It was a tough fight. It was so boring. They were both exhausted. And no one committed because they both have knockout power.

It was weird. How about when Houston Alexander fought Keith Jardine? Nobody knew who he was. Oh, I know. Caught him. Alexander can punch, man. God damn. Mark Hunt's a scary dude, man.

And he's familiar in Japan. Listen, if he's a star in Japan, dude. He was the K-1 Grand Prix champion. He's fought some of the best of the best of all time. If you have a tattoo on your neck, do not talk shit to a guy. Man, it looks like they packed out a stadium here, huh? Good crowd? That's a good point.

That's a legit point. There's a lot of guys in Venice with dirty feet with neck tattoos. Neck tattoos. And like fucking all skinny. I'm just saying Mark Hunt has the gnarliest tattoo. I think that's his son's name by the way it's just i'm pretty sure that's his son's name that he had uh written in kanji on his neck you know me i'm always coming up with like schemes or you know something to get a guy to fight me i want this big fight and with hunt we're talking

shit back and forth i said fuck it let's put our fight purses online. I win. I get all your money. You win. You get all mine. Thinking he'd be like, nah. He was like, cool. Cool, man. We'll ask Dana. You know, knowing damn well Dana's not here. We'll ask Dana. We'll see how it goes. He shut that shit down real quick. Well, didn't Bisping

just offer that to Luke Rockhold? Stole a page out of Shobbs, Buck. Yeah, he did. Me and Bisping talked about that. Yeah, Bisping, he was being really funny about it, too. Saying, since I get paid about five times more, it's much more valuable to me. Bro, let's talk about this, though. Mark Hunt. I'm really excited about this fight, guys.

I can't wait for this fight. Let's talk about Mark Hunt real quick, though. Just a couple years ago, if you remember, he got taken down by Chris Tuster. He lost to McCorkle by submission. McCorkle caught him in submission. McCorkle caught him in submission. McCorkle caught him in submission. He went to that weird fight in Denver with Rothwell where they call it the worst heavyweight fight of all time.

So you're like, damn, Marcon is not doing well. Look at this motherfucker now. Killing the game. Killing the game. Well, that Rothwell fight, man, was in Denver. And if you don't live in Denver, good luck fighting in Denver if you weigh 260 pounds. Listen, if you're not in shape in New Zealand, when you get to Denver, you're also not going to be in shape.

If you're not in shape in California, when you fly to Florida, your fat ass still ain't in shape. That is true. I used to fly train partners in, and they'd be crazy out of shape. Bro, this altitude. You're fat as shit, bro. No still ain't in shape. That is true. I used to fly train partners in and they'd be crazy out of shape. Bro, this altitude. You're fat as shit, bro. No, it doesn't matter. Where'd you come from?

Jacksonville? Yeah, you're fat in Jacksonville. You know what I'm saying? It'd drive me nuts. How disappointing must that be for professional athletes? They come in, professional athletes, to work with you. And their shape, the kind of conditioning they're in. We would send them home the next day.

Would you? Yep. Beat it, nerd. Go kick rocks. Beat it, nerd. Go kick rocks, geek. Beat it, nerd. So don't they say that the best way to do it is to sleep at sea level and train at altitude? They say like- No, sleep at altitude, train at sea level.

Yes, that's what I meant. Yeah. Train at where there's no altitude. Right. And then sleep. Why? Because your body, you get the harder work rate at sea level. You have more reps in. There's plenty of oxygen.

More reps. More energy exerted because you're not struggling. But there is a benefit to living and training up there, but it's not as much of a benefit as sleeping up there, but training is here. See, I used to train at obviously high altitude and live at high altitude. I feel 10 times better living in California.

I get better training. My body recovers better. I breathe better. Do you ever feel the difference? I'm flushing in L.A. More oxygen. Oh, you're getting very excited. Sorry, man.

Those pickles got me crunk as shit. I'm also going to shit my pants in a second. It's also, there's a habaneros in there. I know. That's what it is. Beautiful. And I drank seven cups of coffee. Do you, like, if you were going to fight in Denver, would you go to Denver and prepare?

Yeah, I would. Kind of have to, right? You know what? But Joe Silva said he's never going to put heavyweights on a Denver card again. Because of that? Thanks, Rothwell and Hunt. Thanks. Thank you, sir.

It's hard, man, if you're fucking not from there, man. Real quick, Mark Hunt's 9-8, number six in the world. That's fucking gangster, man. 9-8. 5-10, 264. Hey, real quick. If you're in the NFL and you throw 9 touchdowns, 8 interceptions, you don't have a job. I'm just saying.

Yeah, but this isn't the NFL. This is Mark Hunt. I agree. He's K-1 Grand Prix champion who knocked out Czech Congo. K-1 Grand Prix champion who was the shortest fighter ever. Like, the difference between his height... God, this is a good fight.

Man, they look exactly the same. His fight and Stefan Struve's height, it was the most disparity in size ever in a heavyweight fight. And Hunt landed a leaping left hook that destroyed Struve's jaw. Broke his jaw. Warm cheese against caramel. This is an interesting fight, man. Very interesting.

Hunt certainly has more weapons. But he's also been in more wars. I disagree. I don't think Hunt has more weapons, but he's also been in more wars. I disagree. I don't think Hunt has more weapons. Stand up. I'm saying overall. I'm saying it's an MMA fight. No, no. He definitely doesn't overall. He's got some tits. He's got more weapons standing up. 100%. But Roy arguably has

more power in his one weapon. That one weapon. And Roy isn't known as a good wrestler. He has trips. He has trips. He has trips. Yeah, but Mark Hunt has been working on his takedown defense. Dude, Mark Hunt's left hook is from fucking outer space. He knocks aliens out with that shit.

Mark Hunt's easy to take down. Holy shit, son. He just tagged Nelson with a good shot. Holy shit. Damn. Can you imagine if this is the first fight where we see Roy get stopped? It might be. It might be. He might not be able to take Mark Hunt down.

I think Roy's too smart, man. Very good at slipping in and out of shit, too. He's really good at that check hook. Oh, Roy goes for the takedown early. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. I told my brother on the way down. I said, boy, he's a shooter.

He's a Roy. He's smart, man. Oh, he cut all that weight. You take him down early, it's going to exhaust him. He's not going to have the same power. Well, not only that, Hunt is a very skillful striker. He's not going to just stand right in front of you. Like you see when Roy went to throw that right hand, Hunt slides right out of the range of shit.

Just out of the range of shit. Poke him in the eye. Wouldn't that be the worst if the fight stopped and I poked him? It's all the way in Japan. Right now. This entire night would be ruined. Yeah, isn't that sad? At least no one would have gotten hurt. I fucking hate the glove situation, man.

I feel like there's got to be a way to... Oh, yeah, he poked him right in the fucking eye. He said it, too. He goes, sorry. He said, enjoy your victory with one fucking eye. It's so disappointing, man. I mean, nobody means to do it. That's a Muay Thai thing, too, you know?

They train that with the glove on. He's all right. He's all right. He's going to keep going. Beautiful, beautiful. They need to come up with a solution, Big Brown. What's the solution? Is it something that covers the

fingertips oven oven mitts right oven mitts finger condoms oven it's obviously not no gloves no gloves no solution at all for that you have to have the fingers out man for grappling yeah i know yeah but is it oh beautiful left kick to the body damn. He put some fucking pop in that. Mark Hunt's a skit. Ooh, good right hand. Ooh, right hand. But Nelson gets angry. Remember, Hunt's been KO'd before by Melvin Manu. Yeah.

He did. He did. In 18 seconds. Melvin Manu is a motherfucker. Straight up scary. Meanwhile, we're going to fight with Robbie Lawler. Hunt is so much faster than he should be. He's beating the shit out of Robbie Lawler.

There's that leg kick, man. You just get kicked by a telephone pole. That's not a normal knee. What kind of knee is that? Look at the size of that knee. That's three knees. Roy's throwing some serious shit. He is.

Three knees. But you know what? If Hunt's smart and he keeps sliding towards his right after he lands shots, he takes away some of the right hand. Slide to the right. Because Roy very rarely throws lefts. His left is a measuring device. Yes, exactly.

I mean, he'll throw a left to get you thinking about it, but that right hand is the bomb diggity. With me, he threw a double jab. See, there's the right. A double jab to a huge right hand. That's his thing. He goes, bop, bop, shakes it, and then big right hand. See, the thing about a striker like Hunt, like, look how slick he is.

He's slick. Yeah. He's basically 300 pounds right now, too. Moving like a fucking ballerina elephant. Oh, and there's a clean right hand he landed. See, there's a disparity in technical advantages. 100%. Like the technical advantage that Martin Hunt has.

His movement, too. Yeah, his movement is, but that's also a technical advantage. Yeah. 100%. He knows exactly where he's coming. And look, if he avoids the right hand, see? It's all the avoiding the right hand, though. He doesn't have to worry about knees or kicks.

He's just worried about that right hand. And at his level, if they go, all this guy has a right hand, he's going to go, oh, cool. It's a totally different animal. You're dealing with a K-1 Grand Prix champion. But now you're talking about a guy who's very who can stick in there and has better cardio than you. Maybe. Who knows who's got better cardio so far.

But right now you're just dealing with Mark Hunt. I mean Mark Hunt was fat but it doesn't mean he's out of shape. Just because he's 290 pounds he could have been starting off at 340 and gotten really good shape at 290 and had to cut down to 265 and still be able to kick some fucking ass for three rounds or five rounds. Apparently, you're right.

It's five rounds. I'm very excited. I'm very excited when I found out. I knew it was five rounds, but I forgot for a second. Oh, that's what I wanted to talk to you about. That's deep water. Did you hear that? I don't know if this is true, but if it is true.

Oh! Roy tagged him! Roy got him with a left hook, too. Fuck yeah, he did. Someone said that Junior Dos Santos, the Stipe Miocic fight, he requested a three-round fight for the main event. Did you hear that? Is that true? Oh, good body shot.

I heard he wants a three-round fight. Why do you think that is? Maybe those two fights with Kane, those fucking horrible five-round wars, man. Maybe he doesn't want to do that to his body. If I'm Stipe, I'm saying, nope, five rounds. Biatch. wars, man. Maybe he doesn't want to do that to his body. If I'm steep, I'm saying, nope, five rounds.

Batch. The other thing that Hunt is good at is rolling with shit. He doesn't get stiff. Hunt looks a little tired. Not to me. He doesn't get stiff with stuff. He rolls. Like when things are coming at him, he rolls away from things. See that? He takes a lot of the power

off of those punches when he does that. And for someone who's not used to a guy that's that slick like that, it also... Ooh, look at that, Roy, with the leg kick. Spun him around. It also makes you very tired because you're decelerating your own punches instead of hitting something. Yeah, missing a punch makes you more tired than actually hitting someone. Yeah. When you're fighting a guy...

That's why Ali would wear guys out so well. Yep. Because he would just be standing in front of him and they would just be fucking eating air sandwiches look at that beautiful movement you know what that is man that's just knowledge just knowing where the punches are coming from it's just experience man uh roy looks a little tired his head his head's always in the right spot yeah Yeah. Well, it's so tough. If he knows that you have two weapons, right? I mean, Roy only hit him with one pretty good leg kick.

It's a pretty good leg kick, though. Not game-changing. No, but pretty good. Now, here's a couple of good combinations. Roy landed a great left hook right hand. That was the... Yeah. Boom.

There's a nice right hand. Right to the eyeball. Boom. And look, slides away. Boom. There's one over the top. That tagged me a little bit. He kind of rolled with it, though. He rolled a nice right hand. Right to the eyeball. Boom. And look, slides away. Boom. There's one over the top. That tagged me a little bit. He kind of rolled with it, though.

He rolled with the left hook. But there's a good leg kick. But then he rolled with that, too. He moved around with it. Yeah, he rolled with it and just went with it. But it's like when Roy mixes it up, anytime a fighter mixes it up, he opens up all these other possibilities because he creates new variables. If you introduce new variables, like that's why GSP was so so good you never knew what the fuck he was going to do so that extra half

of a second when you're thinking what is he going to do then he executes something just that extra half of a second is such an advantage that along with the comfort level that a guy like gsp had from all those championship fights is one of the reasons that led him to be one of the great fighters of all time is that he was so good at being unpredictable. You didn't know if he was going to strike or try to grapple. And guys would be thinking, what's he going to do? Fuck, he already did it. And then you're always playing catch up.

Yeah. I talked to Nate Marquardt about that, who was his main training partner, and he would always say, you didn't know if he was going to shoot a double leg on you. Oh! Oh, he took him down. He got his back right there. Look at this. See, Hunt rolls all fours. Oh! What if he was going to shoot a double leg on you. Oh, he took him down. He got his back. Look at his back. Look at this.

Hunt rolls all fours. Oh, what if he gets him? Oh. He's high. Look at how thick. Look at how thick his legs are. Roy is very good, though. He's very good.

Oh. He's almost out. He's out. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Hunt's out. And Roy had to adjust his knee pad. That's out. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Hunt's out. And Roy had to adjust his knee pad. That's interesting.

What's that about? It was uncomfortable. Yeah, but, I mean, what's up? Do you think he's got a knee injury? Oh, back fist. That's a big, big moment for Hunt, right? Yeah, getting up like that. It's the fact that he could.

He was able to escape. Dude, he's tough to keep down now. It's all his training, it looks like. He's so fucking strong, too. Look at the back on that fucking dude. It takes a while to get it all together. Some people would have quit. He just kept going, and now he's finally, he's hard to take down, and he's got a little bit of jiu-jitsu.

And he's 290 in 510. That helps. Yeah, that helps a little bit. Did he-jitsu. And he's 290 in 510. That helps. Yeah, that helps a little bit. Did he get down to 265? For a little bit. For about 10 minutes. So he had to cut to 265? Yeah, he lost 19 pounds in one day.

They said he lost 19 pounds in one day. So he's at least, you know, a solid 284. Yeah, a solid 284. That's so ridiculous. That's so ridiculous. That's so ridiculous. What if he got down to 205? But meanwhile, he fucking moves good.

He moves good. But you know what? Mike Dolce made some really good points. He was talking about Cain Velasquez. He was like, yeah, he's the best of all time. Yeah, he's awesome. And Fedor, yeah, he was fucking amazing in his prime and probably, oh, nice right hand. But he goes, he would have been even better if he lost that body fat.

I disagree. Really? I disagree. I think you need some body fat. Listen, and like I said, we all love Mike Dolce. It's not a bodybuilding competition. If Fedor or Cain Velasquez both had six packs, they wouldn't have the same cardio. That's interesting.

I think you need some of that fat to have some of that cardio. But when you're trying to cut weight down 135, yeah, heavyweights, yeah, for sure. So why would Cain go, wait a second, I have the best cardio in the game. Let me change my diet and get this six-pack because Dolce thinks I need to be lesser fat. Plus, he's going to alienate a lot of people that love Roy Nelson because Roy Nelson looks like the average American. Oh! Big left hook.

Shit! Oh! I've never seen Roy like that. Big left hook. Mark has got a vicious left hook, but Roy Nelson fires back. This is what Roy wants, man. Man.

If you didn't know Roy Nelson was a UFC fighter and you saw that dude by a swimming pool and you talked shit to him, what a fucking colossal mistake that would be. A huge mistake. Oh! Roy Nelson was a UFC fighter, and you saw that dude by a swimming pool, and you talked shit to him. I know. Fucking colossal mistake that would be. A huge mistake.

Oh! Oh, shit! Oh, my goodness! Oh, my God! Oh, my goodness! Oh, my God. Mark Head. That is a bad, bad... Oh, my God.

Mark Head is a motherfucker, dude. Oh, my God. He is a motherfucker. He faceplanted Roy Nelson. I've never seen that. Holy shit. Faceplant. I've never seen Roy Nelson take a shot like that. He is a motherfucker. I've never seen that. I've never seen Roy Nelson take a shot like that. Holy shit. Wow.

Oh, no. That's fucking scary. What do you mean, oh, no, you hate Mark Hunt? No, I'm just saying, wow, that was crazy. No, you said oh, no. You said oh, no. It was brutal. Explain yourself.

Eddie Bravo turned on you. He was with you. Explain yourself. He turned on you. He said oh, no, no. Look at this. I'm a big country operative. Oh, no you. He was doing his show. Like, I'm a... He said, no, no, no. Look at this. Look at this. I'm a big country operative.

Oh, no. Look how Mark Hunt walks away, too. It looks so painful. I love how he does that. That walk away. He's done that to three dudes now. How expensive. Look at this.

Right up cut. To no. Boom. Look at this. Right on the chin. Look at that walk away. Mark Hunt is the king of the walk away KO. He tripped right there.

Look at that. But that's the referee got in his way. No, no, no. Watch. Watch it again. The referee pushed him. Bullshit. Watch this.

Boom. The fucking referee pushes him, man. So what? Hey, Andy. What's up, man? He should have blocked the ref. Put a forearm in his neck. That shit was bananas.

The referee ruined a beautiful ending. That referee ruined a beautiful walk-off KO. That was crazy. Still a beautiful walk-off KO. Got caught right in the chin. Well, he got caught by one of the best strikers in MMA. Period. Hardest hitter.

By far the hardest hitter in the division. Seriously, seriously. Out of all the heavyweight fighters, nobody moves like him with a striker. He's harder than Junior Daszak. He's like a professional bodybuilder. What did you say? Harder than Junior, harder than Kane. 100%. But he moves so smooth. He moves like a big black guy, right? He's like a professional bodybuilder. Would you say? Harder than Junior, harder than Kane. 100%.

But he moves so smooth. He moves like a big black guy, right? He's so smooth. Oh, wow. I'm not touching that. Wow, yeah, that's all you, Doug. With cream. No, but you know what I'm talking about, right?

With cream. You know what I'm talking about? Nobody moves that smooth. Roy's no, but... Kane moves professionally. Kane moves professionally, but he moves like a brother. Well, I think what Samoans have, one of the things that they like, there's so many guys like David Tua, Mark Hunt, they have incredible ability to generate power.

Such a beast. Like David Tua. Do you remember David Tua when he was in his prime? Yes. What? John Ruiz. Jesus fucking. Fucking.

Luizus. He had unbelievable success. Luizus. Jesus, Louises. And no one has a bigger fucking jaw. Like, who's got a wider Mount Rushmore jaw than Mark Hunt? He takes a tremendous bomb. How old is he?

I think he's like 38 or 39 or something like that. Every bit of 38. Thank you, Jesus. He looks 29. Who's that trying to moan next to him? I'll tell you what, he's in his fucking prime. That's a fact. Is there any heavyweight out there you've got your sights set on that you'd like to fight next?

Oh, that's cute. Aw. Boom. You've got to like Mark Hunt, man. He's a great guy. I hung out with him at the airport. Him and his training partner. He's a sweetheart. Really, really fun guy to hang out with and talk to.

Very friendly. He's so calm in there, too, man. So calm in there. You know, what you were saying earlier about him, about his career being... Here's one further. When he first got signed by the UFC, they had a strike force contract.

They didn't want to honor it. They had his pride contract. They didn't want to honor his pride contract. Not that they didn't want to honor it, but they didn pride contract yeah they didn't want to honor his pride contract not that they didn't want to honor it but they didn't want him to fight they wanted to pay him off and he said no i want to fight not that they want to honor of course they would honor any contract but he did they didn't think that he was like you know ufc material what's happening it's going up they didn't think he was ufc material they thought you know he'd lost a few guys and he said look I want to prove it to you. And then he loses his first fight, and fuck.

Then they give him a second chance, and then, man, on a roll. That was super impressive. That was insane. He lost how many straight? Well, he lost to McCorkle, and then he lost after that to Junior Dos Santos. Is that the next loss, or was there a loss in between? No, he lost to McCorkle. Did he lose that decision in Denver?

That's a good question. He won it? Did he beat Brennan Schaub? I mean, not Brennan Schaub. He's right here. Ben Rothwell? Ben Rothwell in Denver. I forget.

I know it was a decision. Let me pull it up, Mark Hunt. Oh, damn. I've never seen Roy get taken out like that. Fuck, that was beautiful. Amazing. Dude, that shit was beautiful. Dope-ass picture on Wikipedia.

Hey, have you guys seen Josh Barnett and Renato Laranja do a scene from Brokeback Mountain? No. Of course I haven't seen it. Have you seen it? No. Oh, my God, dude. Go Renato Laranja Show, episode four. Josh Barnett, Hinata Laranja, doing a scene from Brokeback Mountain.

It's fucking... Brennan, what did I say? It's incredible. What do we got here? I said we need to start reenacting. So the Silva fight was a draw. But wasn't that fight changed because of the drug thing? Didn't they disqualify?

Who FCs? It was a draw, so there's no winner, though. But it was a draw anyway, right? He got Bigfoot's money and bonus money for the fight of the night. So he lost Junior Santos. Before that, he beat Stefan Struve, Chet Congo, Ben Rothwell, and Tuck Scher. So McCorkle was the loss. Just the one loss.

And then he won four in a row. Then he fought Dos Santos. And then he had the war with Bigfoot. Crazy. But he lost a whole shitload right there. But all the ones he lost. He did lose one, two, three, four, five. He lost six in a row.

Dude, he got submitted by Musashi. He was in the middle of it. Look at the guys he was fighting, though. Killed by Manho. Look at the guys he was fighting in those six losses. Six in a row. Josh Barnett beat him. Fedor was an interesting fight, man.

Remember when he had Fedor in an armlock Remember that He hit him like a Kimura but he couldn't finish it Those are some monster opponents Those early days though he was a pure striker No nothing He didn't know what he was doing He was learning

But he beat Mirko Krokop In his prime And he beat Vandele Silva A lot of people think he was the guy that ruined Vandele, because Vandele fought him as a heavyweight. And Vandele was the 203-pound champion. He was fucking everybody up at 203 and went up and fought. And he actually, I believe, if I remember correctly, he was light when he fought Hunt. I think he was only like 199, and he fought Hunt.

That's crazy. It was light for him. Yeah. Like, when he fought Crow Cop, he was super heavy. He was heavier than Crow Cop. If I remember correctly, Vandeley was like 218 and Crow Cop was 214.

Wow. Vandeley was just... You said that Crow Cop was the strongest guy you ever felt, right? Yeah. What did he weigh when you fought him? 221 or something like that. Maybe 220.

And at that weight, he was 247. Did he feel stronger than you were? Just like, just like, so like a rock. Like couldn't move him. You know how some guys

you move and they're like tilt, like kind of budge? Do you think it's like a statue? The legs? That guy has giant legs. He has a good base.

I just think he was like, there was no fat on him. Just like, that grown man strength when I fought him, you know? Yeah. You know, you're talking about a guy who's been kickboxing for so fucking long. And I think, I would imagine that a guy who's like a really strong kickboxer, like a Hunt or like a Crow Cop, those guys that develop those monster ass legs and they have good

balance from throwing kicks. Once you teach those guys like take down defense it becomes very difficult because they're dealing with such a ridiculous base yeah like crocop has some giant ass fucking legs you want to talk about a guy with a ridiculous highlight reel stud i'm so tired Brian Brian looks exhausted Why are you so tired? I just had such a long day

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It's actually one of the best things I've ever done. Oh, that's hilarious. What's the name of the show? The Goldbergs. It's such a funny show. It's a sitcom? Jeff Grohl is in it. Sitcom?

Wendy McLennan, who is in Bridesmaids. It's a really funny show. I heard Bridesmaids is a funny fucking movie. So you're a part of the show? Fuck yeah. Is it really funny? Great movie. Have you ever seen it, Eddie?

It's on YouTube? It's a fucking American classic. It's called The Goldbergs. Okay. You ever see Bridesmaids? No. Never saw it? It's supposed to be really funny.

It's a pretty funny movie. It's an amazing movie. Dana White tells me it's really funny. Dude, it's a classic. It's an American classic. It's supposed to be really funny funny. It's pretty funny movie amazing movie tells me it's really fun. It's a classic American classic It's fun. Yeah, you know who else hasn't seen bridesmaids Al Qaeda Isis fucking see bridesmaids American go see fucking bridesmaids No It's been about about three years.

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You know the last funny movie that I saw was? Was This is the End. It's a pretty funny movie. It's pretty fucking hilarious. How funny. What's the dude from Eastbound and down character dude yeah you see me spouting down oh yeah yeah yeah it's amazing awesome I love the amazing He fucking pours all the water I don't want to give up

Spoiler alert It's been out for six years Spoiler alert Spoiler alert It's a million o'clock Nobody's out People get mad at me for fucking spoiler alerts For fights that happen like the day before

I'll say oh I just finally got around to watching Blank fight Wow what a fucking huge win for Blank They go fucking spoiler alert You're online shith. You're online, shithead! You're online, you're reading the Twitter feed of a fucking MMA commentator for the UFC.

What did you think was coming your way, stupid? You looking for flower arrangement tips? What do you think I'm gonna talk about? Why are you on my fucking Twitter feed? Do you go on MMA Weekly's Twitter feed too and go, whoa, spoiler alert! They're fucking news sites, stupid. You know what has to hurt people's feelings?

When I see you talk shit to 120, you go, dummy. That hurts my feelings a lot. That's something you and I talked about a long time ago. That was when, remember, sometimes when you call somebody a simple name, I almost cut this guy off. Remember that guy who was this huge guy looking at me, and I pull up next to him, and he goes, you got a fucking problem? And he was this really big, giant guy, fat and really big. And I looked at him, and I go, what?

And he goes, you got a fucking problem, man? And I go, you're fat. And he goes, ah! And I just drove away. Like little insults like that You're dumb or you're fat I would just start laughing If I pulled up to someone and said

Hey man you got a fucking problem He goes you're fat I'd be like Ah you fuck But it would hurt my feelings If they're like you're a fucking dummy I'd be like damn bro You dummy

You fuck Some people are dummies man Some people are dummies I did that to a girl talking in a show Some people are dummies, man. Some people are dummies. I did that to a girl who was talking in a show. Yep. A heckler. You went, no, no, no, no, no.

You're dumb. I've had that more than once. I'm not sure which event you're talking about. Yeah, that's perfect. You're dumb. You're dumb. You know, that was a real problem with fucking doing stand-up at that comedy store. Nobody does the crowd. Nobody takes care of the crowd.

So you're constantly... Crowd control. Comics shouldn't have to deal with that shit. That shit should all be done by bouncers. Any improv you go to, that never gets out of hand. They squash that shit like that. They know what they're doing. I think I can tell the story.

Yeah, what? It happened tonight. Tonight? What happened? Yeah. like that they know what they're doing i think i can tell the story yeah what happened tonight tonight what happened yeah uh i was at i was at the laugh factory and there was a dude in the front row talking like an asshole and to the point where i i kicked his leg a little bit i went hey you gotta shut up in the middle of my set i go hey you gotta shut up and he goes oh sorry sorry and then he kept talking i went through my set it was fine it went well and dane dane cook follows me and i'm watching dane and the guy is doing the same thing and dane literally and literally in the middle it went like this he just and tweet if i'm exaggerating dane goes you shut

the fuck up right fucking now or I will knock you the fuck out. You say one more fucking word, I'm going to knock you out and send you the fuck out of here. Like right in this face. Sounds like Dane Cook's been doing some Taibo or some shit. The fucking show, you asshole. And the whole place started clapping. How great would it be if the guy stood up and whooped Dane Cook's ass? Right, I was like, Dane, in front of everyone.

Here's my prediction. Dane was ready to go. That guy was a plant put by Jamie Massad. He's like, buddy, Dane Cook is going to be on. I want you to warm up with Brian Callen. You go, you tell a joke, you talk to girls, you speak on phone. And then when Dane Cook come on, he be so mad. He's like, this fucking guy heckled me, I'm Dane Cook.

And then we get on tmz uploading it to youtube i'm sure somebody videotaped brian do me a favor tell them the dream you had that you told me i i tell them the dream i think you tell me if this is normal i think it's appropriate okay this is my business partner this shit. I had a dream I had a boyfriend. Okay, that's not Martin Luther King. Martin Luther King had a totally different dream. I had a dream. It started, Sibber.

I had a dream. And what were you doing, Brad? This is hilarious already. No, listen to this shit. And he fucked me. He had a dream he was having sex with a man. Well, I'm glad you told me this after I told Steve Rinella that I don't want to share a tent with you.

Because he asked me, he goes, is it okay if you share a tent with Brian? Fuck yeah, I do. I snore like a werewolf, dude. I've never heard anybody snore like this. You look like a snorer. I'm a snorer, bro. Dude, you don't even know. I have an irregular neck.

It's the craziest, loudest snorer. I thought you handled that though. Didn't you handle it with the mouthpiece? I have a new mouthpiece. I have a new mouthpiece. This is the last time we went hunting. Well, I got one about seven, eight months ago. This is like the third or fourth version.

Bro, I think I had sleep apnea because I wake up. It wasn't fitting right, man. It kept falling out. The last one. Yeah, it kept falling out. But the new one, it's uncomfortable, but it fits great, and it keeps my tongue in place, makes no sound. It looks exhausted.

I sleep like a baby. I make no sound. None. Finish your gay story, though. I want other people to judge you. I'm sorry. I make no sound. None. Finish your gay story, though. I want other people to judge you. I'm sorry. I was talking about snoring. And I was like, I'm straight, man.

And I have a boyfriend. And this guy keeps fucking me. And this is bad. And I was like, I'm in my dream. I was like, I'm straight as shit. And this guy's fucking me. And I got to keep this a secret. I'm not sure how to make sense of this.

That's a bit. Is that a bit? No, it's not a bit. He needs it to be. Bro, fuck. He was dead serious when he told me this. I'm not sure how to make sense of this That's a bit Is that a bit? No it's not a bit It's a bit He needs it to be He was dead serious When he told me this And I literally

Was just looking at him like this Bro This is your next hour It's gonna start with this What? Write it down Write it down Right now

The possibilities are endless With this dream Is that not weird? This dream can go wherever Have you guys ever Have you ever had a dream like that? No Never

Ever in my life Dude I was like And the guy had a big back He had a dream like that? No. Never in my life. Dude, I was like, and I was like, and the guy had a big back. He had a back on him. And I was like, damn, man. And I remember, and I didn't tell you this part. We were having cocktails and I was looking over and I go,

I gotta fuck this guy again. And I was like, this is not normal. I feel like I was sliding down a ice glacier. Yeah, I fucked this guy again. All that great shit. It was crazy, bro. I'm fucking this guy again.

I'm straight, man. I'm fucking straight. I fucked this guy again. The theme of the dream was disturbing how many jokes you have arguing your sexuality. I know. Because a big part of your act is arguing your sexuality. I said he's 50% gay, and I don't have an issue with it. We got Brody Stevens up to 84%.

Remember? He started the podcast. He said he was probably 10% gay. By the end of the podcast, he told me he was 84% gay. I was with Brody in Thailand. He said 15%. After that dream, I said full 50%. Do you think you're gay? No. A little bit? No, gay. I was with Rodney in Thailand. He said 15%. After that dream, I said full 50%. Do you think you're gay?

No. A little bit? No, I wish I was. When we went hunting, we were gone for six. The first time, we were gone for six days in Montana. The second time, we were gone for five days in Wisconsin. That's 11 days of gay jokes. I mean, the kid is relentless.

It never stops coming. It's a storm of locusts that there's no end. It shows up on a satellite. It shows up on a satellite. It's like swarming across you. It's actually not all too much. Crops die. Rivers get choked.

The fucking, the rivers get choked, leaving, like, there's no water that gets to the farmlands. Never get tired. Fucking crops dry up. There's actually something with that. You know who is actually more obsessed with male beauty than Brian Callen

Yoshihiro Akiyama well yeah I mean that's my boyfriend but Big Brown Big Brown is don't try pushing on me yeah but it's a different thing

you had dreams you're attracted you had dreams you had sex with a man no one else has that shit here that's weird

Brian why are you saying that he's attractive to men? Because you're attractive to men too. Yeah. Are you attractive? You're attractive, right? I would imagine

you're an attractive guy. I'm a cutie pie. You're a beautiful man. Yeah. Not bad. Right now he looks like pure shit. That's a good move.

I've never seen you look so tired. By the way, this is how guys are. Like, Brendan gave me his cold. I was around his cold and I had to go perform. I was sick as shit for two weeks.

Crazy sick. I had to perform in San Antonio, and I'm dying. I'm like, I'm just slogging through. And I call him up, and I go, bro. I go, he goes, how you doing? I go, I'm not doing well, man. I'm sick, and I got two shows tonight, and you gave me your cold. And this is what I hear on the other end of the phone.

Ah, ha, ha, ha. I mean, you were dying laughing. Well, because your guys get it. You know what? Because I got in his fucking. Yeah, I don't think chicks think that's funny. No. But guys love it.

I got in his fucking Prius. I get in there and he goes, I'm sick as shit. He goes, I'm never sick. Spray saline solution in his nose. And he goes, this is why. Two days later. He kept telling me this. Two days later, he's sick as fuck.

He kept telling me this for weeks all i heard from him was there's a way you never get sick i don't get sick anymore i spray the saline solution in my nose yeah they got my cold so four days later i go yeah throat starting to hurt now moving down your chest he goes yeah i said enjoy that for about another eight days i was sick as meanwhile though i wasn't sleeping. That's why. Well, you would normally. Your immune system is so superior to the average male. It's very true, dude.

Thank you for saying that. I crush. I crush all disease. Well, you know, he eats a lot of jalapenos. And I meditate. He only eats factory farmed fish. Right. Nothing from the ocean.

And I'm God's favorite, too. That helps. factory farmed fish. Right. Nothing from the ocean. And I'm God's favorite, too. That helps. Even his Brazilian character is a gay Brazilian character.

That's true, dude. Remember that? Yeah. That was one of the greatest impersonations ever. One of the most hilarious moments of our life. You gotta write that down.

Take that sheet of paper off the top. I had a dream that I had a boyfriend and he was fucking me. Yeah, just remember that joe rogan my snogger thanks for the idea i had a dream i had a boyfriend he was fucking me the best part is you go i gotta fuck this guy later i know you gotta tell them i'm exhausted i gotta get fucked you must tell them i gotta fuck this guy he had a back i remember his back was very wide.

And he fucks you throughout the dream like constantly. Yeah, it was bad. It sounds like you're a gift. And there's nothing you can do. I feel like running and sometimes you do run but you're like in slow motion. I didn't like it in the dream. And then you try to shoot him but the bullet goes really slow. You ever have a gun and you shit and the gun falls apart and then the bullet's really slow?

Yes. A classic dream. It's a classic dream. A better example is like, have you ever been like- Guns never work. You know when you see a movie that's really scary and you feel that chill up your spine where you're like, fuck, this is scary. Like you're so uncomfortable and scared.

Sex with the guy felt the same way. I was like, this fucking sucks. But gotta do it. all of us are dreaming of Brian's like yeah you have that you mean Jack and a guy off super slow and it just never ends and every now and then throwing that you tried to escape when you had the gun I should I lied but you just wanted to I had shit I tried there was demons in my consciousness

they represented the mistakes of my youth and you're wherever you guys go you're in your underwear like wherever you go you're in your underwear for some reason

it's freezing cold you have to huddle I hate you but we had to cuddle to stay alive naked and afraid yeah and all new

gay as shit naked and afraid I was treating his frost new gay as shit, naked and afraid. I was treating his frostbite while he was fucking me. I was like, mosquitoes and hard-ons. Oh, my God. Fuck, dude. Listen, we ran out of time. We're three hours in.

Shit. This was awesome. Powerful Mark Hunt. Congratulations to Mark Hunt. Beast. Yeah. Yeah, that was fucking phenomenal and you know we kind of saw it materializing right kind of saw it materializing

saw how smooth he was meanwhile the only guy in this room who has to actually constantly fight that guy is brennan brown this guy big brown not an easy job he's probably still mad at you deep for sure i'm sure if i beat travis he could be next let's get through Travis that's a crazy job you have bro and the crazy you want to be a fighter huh there's only a couple more minutes to go but if you had to think of like this Travis Brown situation where he leaves Jackson's and now he's training with Edmund is that a good thing or do you think that that shows any sign of like you know sometimes people are in a state of turmoil. You know, they feel like they need to change.

They lose a little bit of confidence and they try to switch things up. Is it good to switch things up? It can be good. Listen, I moved to L.A. and switched things up. Obviously, I know Rhonda very well and I know that camp pretty well, I would say. And I'm not going to go into detail, but I think it's a great thing for me that he's training there. I'll put it like that without going into detail. What did you just say?

It's a good thing for you or a good thing for him? It's a good thing for you. Good thing for him. It's a good thing for me. That's what he said. Whoa. He would say that, though, even if he didn't even mean it. No, I promise I wouldn't.

I just wouldn't say shit. Right. I'm 100% dead serious with you. I no reason you know you know you made a mistake by going 100 whoa what if he hears this and changes his mind don't give a fuck wow brendan so do you think brendan i'm not worried about him i'm not worried about him yeah you used to train about me did you used to train there where Where? No. Where he's training. You never trained with what he's doing? Nope.

Never trained with Edmund, but you did do some training at Jackson's. Oh, because you might have someone telling you how they're training because you know people. No, not at all. You have connections. Not at all. Is that what you mean? Nope.

Not even close. I would never do that. So you know what the training is like at Jackson's. It's a pretty high level training. Yeah. And he decided to leave that. Yeah. Jackson's has training partners for days can i just speculate can i just speculate

do you think there was any issue with the fact that ovrium came into the camp no not at all not at all because travis beat him will never fight him again i don't think that had anything to do with it easily fight him again though that could happen nah you don't think so? No, never They would never do that Oh boy Well, if someone said Rank number three Let's say Yeah, no No, listen, man Listen Rankings There's a chance

Yes, rankings don't mean shit Yes But the chance of them fighting again Them doing rematches Are not good Unless you're at a very high level Alright, here's my opinion I completely disagree

One of the reasons I completely disagree Is the depth of the heavyweight division The depth of the heavyweight division Is not that There's not that broad. There's not that many people. Well, he trains with Andre Orlovsky. Yeah, it's true. So you think he was just like, fuck it, I'm out of here. But look,

because Orlovsky stays, and Orlovsky's fighting Overeem, or Orlovsky and Overeem are in the same camp, just because they're both heavyweights, it doesn't mean that Travis Brown agrees with that. So Travis Brown could have been in a situation where he felt like he was one of the top heavyweights in camp, he beat Overeem,

then all of a sudden Overeem moves in. And then on top of that, he loses the fight with Verdum. He doesn't like how he felt in that fight, feels like he needs to add some things to his game. And one of the things that he said, he said he didn't know how to fight. He said he knew how to go out there and fuck guys up,

but he didn't know how to fight, like the technical aspects of fighting. Which is kind of, it's interesting saying that when he's like you're dealing with mike winklejohn you know he's like an outstanding striking coach like one of the best in the world winklejohn i've seen winklejohn coach monster he's a wizard so travis is working with him and then he goes from that saying that he really didn't know how to fight and edmund is teaching him how to fight i mean it's interesting, look what Edmund's done for Ronda. She was a negative striker in the beginning.

Goddamn, she looks good now. And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Ronda can... It took her a while, because I was even doubting. I was even thinking, damn, is she ever going to be a serious threat on her feet? She's becoming a serious threat. Fuck yeah, dude. And at the rate she's going, another couple years, two or three years, Ronda might just stay standing for a while longer, you know?

Well, that's that Chuck Liddell type thing, you know? If you can't take her down, what the fuck are you going to do if she can knock you out on the feet? Yeah. When Ronda blasted Sarah McMahon with that knee to the body, that was a big fucking message. You know, that was a big message. Sarah McMahon. Last time we were here, you said you didn't feel that Ronda Cyborg was a good...

Like you weren't happy about that potential matchup. Yeah. Have you changed since then? Because has there been anything? I just don't think you would be good for the UFC with Cyborg's history with steroids and Ronda being very pretty and being in movies it's not going to be good if she were to lose to cyborg that's all i'm saying i think cyborg's a great fighter i don't think as a marketing standpoint and for the future of the fc cyborg as your champ is a good thing do

you think that she should be out forever because of the fact that she did that no when you give her she keeps winning she keeps winning yeah give her a shot she's got to have a shot at the title everyone theon silva almost got a fucking shot. She's zeroed in. I think she should be all right. Cyborg is zeroed in on Ronda. That's all she's thinking about. What else?

Every girl. That's where the money is. But every girl. It almost seems like it's inevitable. Come on. Gina Carano, they're like, hey, fight. You want to be relevant again? Why don't we bring you back?

You tap out in like a minute or so. And we'll do all this marketing. And then you get out. Everyone wants to fight Ronda. Yeah. They know they're not going to win. The marketing they get from it is insane. But the fight that most MMA fans want to see from Ronda. MMA, not mainstream.

Yeah. But it would be beautiful. Mainstream, all the regular girls. It wouldn't be good. They'd be probably behind Ronda because Cyborg's... Yeah, everyone would be behind Ronda because Cyborg... She had some steroid abuse before and all that stuff. But still, that's what makes it an amazing fight is you have a chick who's super yoked, crazy looking.

Cyborg is the perfect nickname for against Ronda, the pretty judo girl. I think that is going to be the fight of the millennium. You know, Cyborg, she's not built like that anymore. She doesn't look like that anymore. She looks like a strong woman now. She does not look like she used to look. Yeah, well, still. As far as

women's MMA, that is probably the biggest money fight right there. That would be huge money-wise. Gina Carano would be bigger. The mainstream knows Gina. Yeah. The mainstream doesn't know Cyborg at all. They see Cyborg, and they're like, oh, I don't want to see this.

One countdown, and it's over. Gina, count down, and that's over. You know what I mean? Well, I think it's sellable. It's totally sellable. It's a terrifying fight. I think it's completely sellable. Not only do I think it's sellable, I think if she keeps winning, it's a must-have fight.

I mean, I don't know if it's ever going to take place, but if Cyborg, if you go back and watch the fucking video of her beating up Gina Carano, beating up a lot of other That was tough to watch. When she fought Gina, you're like, what are we doing? It was like bully beatdown. We got like 30 seconds left. You know what I'm saying? It's rough to watch, bro.

It's rough to watch. It's rough to watch. You're like, what are we doing? You want to be your champ? You think that inspires other little girls when they see Bully beatdown style? Cyborg versus Gina? If you're looking at it as a promoter's point of view, yes. Real quick, that's all Dana looks at.

That's all Dana looks at. But as far as the fans go, I think Cyborg is going to be the biggest MMA fight of all time. No. We're out of time. We're turning into a pumpkin. It's three hours in. Ustream's going to cut off. Thanks, everybody.

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