The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - Sept. 26, 2015

Episode Date: September 26, 2015

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub & Eddie Bravo to watch the fights on Sept. 26, 2015.

There's something easy. Come on. No season 10 was the best. Here we go. We're going live. Don't say anything. Don't say anything. Alright, welcome to Fight Companion. If you never heard one of these podcasts before, this is not a normal podcast, but sometimes it becomes a normal podcast. So take a chance, bitch. Brendan Shobbs in the motherfucking house. What up? And my brother Eddie Bravo. Hello. Of course.

And we're watching the fights. This is Fight Night Live from Japan. It's Josh Barnett versus Big Country, Roy Nelson. That's the main event. Uriah Hall versus Musashi. That's a fight I really want to see. That's tonight, too. That's a big fucking fight.

That's a juicy one. I like that one. For Uriah, it's a big one, huh? It's a huge one for Uriah. And it's a big I really want to see. That's tonight, too. That's a big fucking fight. That's a juicy one. I like that one. For Uriah, it's a big one, huh? It's a huge one for Uriah. And it's a big chance for Musashi. Is it? Musashi has to take a chance. Yeah.

Musashi's giving him a shot, for sure. He's giving him a shot. I think if Uriah Hall shows up, that's Uriah Hall's best moments inside the octagon. Like, Uriah Hall, I think when he's sharp, is like one of the fastest fucking 185 pounds in the world. He's a monster. He's so fast. Athletic. You know what?

One thing, one of the most, to me, biggest curiosities about that dude is when he broke his foot. Fucked it up real bad. Like you could look down in between rounds. We were looking at his toe. His toe was jacked. The bone was sticking out of it. Hobbles back to his corner. Then the bell starts the next round.

He's throwing kicks with it. He's throwing kicks with it. He's throwing kicks with it and he's moving around like he doesn't feel a fucking thing. And then as soon as the round's over, I mean, he's wobbling. He'd barely walk at the end of the fight. That takes some serious mental toughness. For sure, which is Uriah's biggest knock, right?

His mental toughness. Exactly. I trained with the guy for a year. What do you think? He's, athletically, he's the biggest freak. He's his own worst enemy. If the Uriah Hall shows up with the right mind frame, yeah man, he's one of the best in the world. That's a big fucking if. And guess what? Mousasi has fought guys just like Uriah Hall. He's beat OSP, he's beaten Hector Lombard back in the day. He's fought big explosive guys.

I think OSP has mad potential. Don't get me wrong. And I think he gets better every time he fights. Like, the Shogun knockout was a big fucking deal. I was super shocked by that. The Pat Cummins knockout,

I was like, whoa. OSP is getting better every single time we see him. But, like, when it comes to the execution of techniques, there's some shit that Uriah Hall can do that OSP can't quite do. But OSP pulls it off against world-class competition.

Uriah Hall hasn't beat anybody. You're right. He's beating these kind of C-level guys. You're 100% right. That was my kind of original point was that Uriah Hall, like his movement inside the octagon, like when he's sharp as he can be, he can do some freaky shit. 100%. You see the Ron Stallings fight when he hit Ron Stallings with that right hand? Dude, that right hand's a goddamn laser beam.

Insane, yeah. Bang! Matrix shit. Matrix shit, right? It's just a matter of stringing together those moments when it's crucial. And OSP has definitely been able to do that more than him. Yes. 100%.

100%. 100%. But when it comes to those spectacular movements that Uriah Hall does, when I see OSP, I see a super strong, really tough guy who obviously works real hard and is better every time you see him fight, right? Like those fucking power left kicks he throws. He's a crazy athlete. Especially from the left side. Crazy athlete. Yeah.

And he's got total world championship potential. If that guy keeps accelerating at the pace he's at now, you can see osp at a world championship level in a year maybe even two years true 100 but what uriah hall does he does that every now and then you get these bursts of that next level shit you get these bursts of that ron stallings right hand the wheel kick that he knocked that kid out on tough and again he's not fighting this the highest level competition when he's pulling these techniques off. But they're there. They're there.

They're there, but he just hasn't done it, like you said, against a high-level guy. When he starts pulling that shit, like if he pulls that shit off tonight against Musashi, Musashi's kind of seen this, man. He's beat Jacare. He's beat some good, good dudes. He certainly has. He certainly has. And with Musashi, he just, I don't know what it is.

He's just fucking good, man. I'll take Musashi. His mind. Bro, is it your eye hole, 10th Planet guy? Not your eye hole. He's not? No, OSP. OSP is.

OSP is. I'll take Musashi. That's right. You know what? We already got a double or nothing. I owe him $1,000 from the last fight. Yes, you do. And we're just going to have a running tab?

Yeah. Double or nothing. That'll make everybody feel better. This way, nobody ever has to really get hurt and pay someone $1,000. It comes up to like $100,000. Well, then you've got to suck his dick or something. We have to work something out. For $100,000?

For $100,000? If you would just clean my bed out? I'm not saying I would do it. But you would consider it. But I'm not saying I would do it. But you would keep sitting up. I'm not saying I won't either. You would have to sit down with your friends. I'd have to talk to my wife about it. I'll take 100 G's, son.

I have to imagine how gay Brendan would have to be to let you suck his dick for 100 grand. She'd have to agree. Instead of 100 grand. You know what would be worse than just to pay him to suck his dick for 100 grand. He wouldn't do it for being gay. He would do it to get the fucking pictures, man. Me with a dick in my mouth. Listen, no.

You would have that forever. Those pictures are already out there. It was photoshopped today. Are you guys talking to me to get my dick sucked? No. No, that's how we do it. We do it slow. We make it normal.

No, but you'd be open to it, right? No, I mean, what the fuck, bro? It's not a big deal. Hey, I bet if anybody knows how to suck your dick right, it's a girl. It's not a girl. Has anybody ever photoshopped your face, Joe, like really, really good on some dude blowing another dude? Oh, for sure.

They have? There's the golden rule of the internet. If there's a picture of you out there, someone somewhere has photoshopped a dick in your mouth. I haven't seen it. That's the golden rule. Otherwise, you ain't doing shit. I've seen a ton of them on my own website.

Oh, okay. On the forums on my website. Nice. This dude named Floppo from England. He probably did a hundred of them. Floppo? Like, Floppo was just hacking off to those. Dude was hilarious.

He would have the most hilarious photoshops. Oh, my God. And with me, they always involved, like, a hundred black dicks. Like, I'd have 50 arms and shit. It was ridiculous. They were funny as hell, man. He's always done it with a funny sense of humor. But some people can do it, and they can get it so close.

Girls get really mad because famous actresses have been in porn scenes. They just put their body, and they morph a girl's body. Yeah, they're so good. You can do anything now with that stuff. With photo editing, they can literally have you wrestling a dinosaur. All they need is your face. Anything. Anything.

The chick from Game of Thrones, when they made her walk through the city naked, turns out it wasn't her body, right? Wow, is that true? Is her body dull? That's what Bretman said. I don't know if that's true. Well, he would probably know. I think it is true.

Remember that scene? I mean, it makes sense. I didn't watch that shit. If I was that chick, I would probably be like, look, you can make a dragon. You can't give me fake tits. I agree. Why do you have to see my real tits? That's creepy.

I don't want you guys staring at my asshole as I walk down the street. Asshole? Because she was totally naked, and you got like 100, 200 people that are working as extras that are the slaves and the peasant people, so they're all going to see her naked too? That's not fun. You're not going to see her ass all the way, unless she's like bear crawling through the city. I've been naked in a couple things.

I was naked in this thing that I did for news radio once. I had to be naked in front of, the whole idea was like, I was waiting for this chick in her apartment, and I was trying to, I forget the whole premise. I guess I was trying to get her to date me or something like that, so I lit a bunch of candles and I took my clothes off. Do they pay extra for that or no? No, I don't think so.

Do you have something over your junk or no? No, my dick was hanging out. And when she came in, I covered it up. I had to cover it up. That was the scene in the movie. Like, whoa, it's you. I forget the premise. It was on NewsRadio.

It was a long time ago. It was uncomfortable for sure. Yeah, and then there was another one that I did for the VH1 Fashion Awards. It was like 1997. I did this thing where I played this photographer that was crazy, and I didn't know anything about photography. I was just in it to try to get laid. That was the whole thing.

And I would say to the girl, do you have any problems with nudity? And she goes, no. And next thing you know, I'm taking pictures every while I'm naked. So I had to be naked in front of her. was european she didn't i was back in the day back in the day dude i was seven i was in line behind tony de souza remember that guy yeah remember tony that guy's a wild man from peru really good at jujitsu and everything he's a necktie he did exactly he did uh 2003 abu dhabi and when we were weighing in i killed myself to get down to 145

and I'm in line and he's in front of me and he's we both got our underwear on you see the Japanese press right there you see Brazilian press hoi the Gracie's sitting down right there where I'm waiting to weigh in Tony goes first he drops his underwear gets naked no one says shit he gets naked he weighs in he makes weight and then I come in and I was so close I go I guess it's cool to get naked. I pulled down my underwear. I pulled down my underwear. And the Japanese press come up quick and start taking pictures.

Of your dick. Of me naked, standing there naked. So I started doing kung fu poses and like most muscular poses. And then I did one pose. Then I went like this. Then I did the opposite of the Incredible Hulk. I got all submissive and just covered my balls like I was really shy and I got that's the picture they use they put that shit Joe is there anything that could pay you now to do that to get naked and fill some film some shit on TV

It's not that big a deal like what's the big deal your someone sees your dick It's not that big a deal. Like, what's the big deal? Someone sees your dick? Okay, people, we're so crazy about our bodies. No, I get it. No, I get it. But it's almost like, yo, Joe, on MTV Music Awards, we want you to be butt-ass naked on stage.

No, I don't think that would be something I would be into doing. You're past that. It seems very embarrassing. But the idea behind it is that there's something wrong with you being naked, you know, and like that we know what we that we all i mean look at these crowd of people right you watch these two dudes fight we don't even know who they are you watch these two this is a good scrap actually yeah it is homeboy just got dropped look at all those people in the audience and you'll notice they all have clothes on i mean it's kind of ridiculous clothes are kind of ridiculous you just want everyone to be naked no but this this idea that we've created this outerwear, like some sort of a fucking weird homemade hermit crab thing. Yeah.

We've created this outer shell that we must have on, except in the most intimate moments. I mean, there's something almost, there's almost something where the human race realized how sexual and fucking crazy it is. And like, look, the only way we're going to get anything done is if we invent clothes. Cover shit up. We just can't have people just fucking every time they run into each other. We started with jealous husbands at first. Jealous husbands just cover up their chicks.

That makes sense. Well if you look at the oldest civilizations on earth it's the Middle East right? And aren't those the ones who cover their women up the most? They're the smartest. They're like this. They can't see shit. Dude, they don't ever have to deal with jealousy or possessiveness. How cool is that?

Oh, man. That's genius. Those guys have like $50 billion. That's the least they could do. You don't know what you're getting, though. You know what I'm saying? It's like a cracker bet, John. You know what I'm saying? It's like a cracker jack. You know what I'm saying? There was like a Saudi royalty guy that was arrested in L.A. for sexual assault. Some woman came screaming out of his place.

She was like half naked or something like that. Really? Yeah, he was arrested. Recently. He doesn't have immunity. And it's one of a series of events that have happened with like really rich people from the Middle East in Beverly Hills over the last couple of weeks. Because the other one that happened was there was a race. I don't know if I talked about it with you.

Not with me. We went to Disneyland. They have this thing called Saudi Summer. And in the summer in Saudi Arabia, apparently it's un-fucking-godly hot. So a lot of people come over from Saudi Arabia to L.A. And they buy these crazy houses in Beverly Hills And they bring over these cars that these multi-million dollar cars like a Bugatti Veyron One-and-a-half million dollar car and they have Arab license plates on them

They don't even have like it's not even a registered car in America Yeah They bring them over here and they're allowed to drive them around and so they're driving these cars around and they're racing through the streets Of Beverly Hills and they get video of it. People get video of these people in million-dollar cars running red lights. This guy in a Porsche GT3 is chasing them, runs a red light, or runs a stop sign. It's fucking crazy to watch. So they're just wiling out out here.

These people are at, there's other people at the intersection. These guys are flying through the stop sign with a Porsche. Jesus. In Beverly Hills. Yeah. And so, as the car's pulling in, they're Ferrari smoking, and all these people are taking videos on them. People, like, the whole neighborhood is out. And they all have their iPhones.

They're videotaping it in the street. So that happens. And then right after that happens, this incident happens. And apparently a lot of these people, like, they're asking for diplomatic immunity because they're rich. Hey, man. But isn't that amazing? Yeah, I can't do that. Well, this is what they're saying.

Some of these people that do things like that over here, you can't prosecute them because they have something called diplomatic immunity. That's insane. What does that mean? You know what it probably means? Is to have a lot of dirt on the people running shit. We're going to come over and do whatever the fuck we want to do, or we're going to talk.

And more importantly, they make a fuckload of money. Shitload of money, yeah. Every day, all day, every day. Dude, look at this. Yeah, this is, these guys, watch this. The yellow car, now watch the Porsche. Look at this. The guy doesn't even stop.

There's cars to the left and to the right. That guy just blows through this neighborhood. Hey, man, not the Middle East. Can't do that here. Well, see, look at all these people in the street, and they're filming the Ferrari. That's like a million-dollar car. That's ridiculous. Yeah, I think that's a LaFerrari.

I think that's a million-dollar car plus. It might even be more than a million dollars. What was that, GT3? There's the Bugatti. There's the Bugatti Veyron. I mean, these guys have insane amounts of money, and they're buying up giant houses in Beverly Hills. What did Homeboy do with the girl though we get in trouble I Bet they don't know man. He shit. I don't know cash. I don't know I don't know what happened, but I know he got arrested

I have no idea what the the actual reality of the case is but I know the dude got arrested Crazy right guys watching narcos. I heard it's the shit Nothing you it makes Game of Thrones look like Harry Potter, dude And it's the shit. The best shit. The best. It makes Game of Thrones look like Harry Potter. Dude. Yes. I keep hearing. And it's true. Damn.

It's so good. I'm scared to get into it. It's just 10 episodes. I can't do it. So fun. I knocked out 10 in two days. Damn. Are you done with it yet?

Yeah, I just finished this week. Meanwhile, I'm stuck on a bad show right now. Empire. No, The Strain. Is Empire bad? I heard it's good. You know what? It's good.

The first season was good. If you don't have anything else to watch, it's good. Well, fuck that. No, if there's nothing else going on, it's better than watching whatever's on at 2 in the morning on regular TV. But, man, season two just started. I just watched the season premiere yesterday. Whoa.

Dude, Kenny Rogers is finally looking like Kenny Rogers again. They reversed some of that crazy facial surgery that they did on him. That was some sad shit, dude. He looked like Wanderlei Silva? Dude, no. It didn't look anything like him. They pulled his face way, way, way too tight. How do guys do that?

Girls do that too. Well, they go to a bad doctor. I mean, apparently if you go to a good doctor that knows what they're doing, they can tighten you up and it looks pretty good. I feel like they all look the same. They all look the exact same. I think the ones that we're recognizing are the ones that are terrible. I think that's why we say they all look the same.

I think there's some attractive older women that have had little nips and tucks. But I think when we see something like Kenny Rogers, there's something hideous about it. Someone chose to squeeze their face tight to erase some of the lines. It's a bummer, man. It sucks, too, because especially that guy. He was this beloved character. The whole The Gambler series. Oh, sweet left hand.

For fuck's sakes. But don't you think those guys, like those celebrities, like they're so used to people seeing them for that so they don't want to ever let it go? You know what I'm saying? Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. We never sync this fucking show up.

We never do. Jamie, pull up on the screen who these guys are because this is a wild fight. These guys need credit. Really good fight. The dude who stands southpaw, the guy in the red with white, he's got a nasty left hand. They're eating shots.

And these guys are tired, too. They're in the third round here. Are they from, like, tough Japan or some shit with those bullshit shorts? I didn't bring my laptop today. That little short says UFC Road to Japan. What is that? It has to be some sort of. Oh, this is like the.

Oh, my God. They're eating shots. So here's the gentleman's name. How do you say that? Mizuto Horata. Mizuto Horata and Teruto Ishihara. Ishihara is the guy with the crazy hair. Didn't they have like a weird like mock tough where barnett and nelson were the coach or some did they and there was like i'm so i was

like on ufc fight pass maybe some like that there's like the countdown to japan there's almost too many fighters to pay attention to oh for sure they're at the they're at number... Oh, shit. Comeback. Hirota. Oh, sweet right hand by Hirota. Oh, my goodness. That dude took a lot of shots, too. Dude, have you seen the Japanese ring card girl? Very pretty.

What? What an adorable young lady. What? Good for her. I just... I'm a fan of, of course, the American ones. Very beautiful. She might went to number one from there. Really? we've got booty see this creature let me ask you this about when it comes to girls bodies do you prefer 10 pounds overweight or 10

pounds underweight ooh 10 pounds over every time right listen up 10 pounds over little fat ain't gonna hurt nobody little little belly roll no one wants a bag of bones in the bed but i think the only reason they want to be skinny is for other girls yeah that's what i'm saying when you think when you see those girls walking around the ring they want to be like as skinny as possible like in this culture in our culture in brazil they don't they're not like that man those girls are thick but they have flat stomachs yes yes they're in very good shape the girls are in very good shape well yes they're in very good shape the girls are in very good shape well they're all in very good shape but there's just so much worry

about putting a little weight on anybody like a girl that has like a little like an extra 10 pounds i'm out for it yeah if i'm managing the ring car girls they're fucking eating mickey d's you know i'm saying at night they don't know that though i know you think that they think that no all they do is drink fucking coffee and water and ice cubes for dinner. That's all they fucking do. Especially a few days before. A hundred percent. Yeah.

Nah, nah, nah. Get that full rack of ribs, girl. It's crazy, right? It's crazy. It is weird. It's a weird thing because every guy I talk to almost universally has the same opinion. Like a little bit of body weight on a girl doesn't bother you at all. Dude, you're not my friend if you like skinny

No way There's some skinny girls are hot as fuck some girls are just sexy right agree There's there's girls but the point but no one they don't look hot if they look like they're hungry You know you're not supposed to look hungry. I don't want you to be all nervous Feed this poor kid Jesus Christ rice at the crib all the time when you come over that idea that these poor models have that they have to be These coat racks like shit. That's crazy. That doesn't even make sense What's like guys want to be real big. Most girls aren't even big muscular dudes. Just other dudes are. You know what I'm saying?

There's guys out there that'll look at a girl and go, Oh my god, she has an amazing body and she's really skinny and has big tits. They like the big tits and like no ass. There's guys out there like that. There's a balance thing that I think people recognize. And there's one thing that a lot of big weightlifter dudes do is if no one's coaching them, they'll get out of fucking balance.

They go way titty heavy and way bicep heavy. Then they get these skinny ass necks and you're like, dude, I know if the weight goes weird on you, you can't handle it. Look at that skinny neck you have. What is holding you together? Like your pillar. The whole column in the center is made out of dog shit

Like you can't do that. You can't have giant biceps and little skinny neck Yeah, it's crazy like those guys that compete in the Olympia Phil Heath is my boy But none of those guys are ladies man. You know I'm saying like they don't have all these They're so jacked I bet like you have to be one of those freaky Bodybuilder chicks to be into that. For sure. Or just be a girl. There's girls that are freaks, right?

They're freaks, but people like different chicks. But there's girls that are bodybuilder type chicks, but they're just not that big. They just started. They're like a year and a half into it. They're bulking. Where it's perfect. Yeah, it looks like they're in great shape. They're probably going to get too big in a couple years, but they're like white belts

of bodybuilding. If a girl has shoulders, man, if she has big shoulders, I can't do it. I can't fucking do it. You know, I have a theory about why a girl wouldn't be into a big bodybuilder dude, like that type of a thing. It wouldn't be bigger is better. Because I think evolutionarily, in the girl's DNA, she wants a man that can survive. Yeah. And I think everybody knows that a guy like that, there's so much wants a man that can survive yeah and I think

and everybody knows that a guy like that like there's so much maintenance involved first of all and staying that big it's so preposterous it's so unnatural

and how many flights of stairs can that guy go up before his heart explodes super fucked you mean for a regular person like built like

a chibra built like us a regular athletic guy in the gym, you know, I do a few things. These guys don't have, there's nothing in comparison to the demands that those fucking bodies have. Not to mention these bitches are eating fucking chicken breast and asparagus every other hour

and just sweating. And sweating. Sweating. And have no body fat. Like, they're literally close to blacking out every time they stand up. When those guys get down to that shred Oh, do their ass cheeks have like fucking rubber tire effect? Ridiculous, you know when girls cross that threshold of their asses and hips start they lift so much that it's almost like a guy's

muscular ass It's round as fuck from the profile. It looks fucking amazing. But when you look at its straight back, you're like, she's walking like a dude. Right? There's too much lower back. Or for having sex, like, this looks like Shane Carlin. Straight on.

That's hilarious. Oh, dude, did I ever tell you about this big 230-pound dude just punked me in front of a girl before? Oh, no. My aunt hooked me up with this chick. She used to always try to hook me up with chicks. And she's like, I got a new one for you. She works with me.

Her name is Dawn, and we're going to go out. So I went out with Dawn and my aunt. We went to go meet a guy that my aunt was seeing. But he brings this giant 230-pound linebacker. And so it's three dudes and two chicks. And I'm like, there's a little problem. We're at Bennigan's. And she wasn't drinking, so I'm thinking, this is probably not going to happen tonight.

So we got to go on the dance floor, and this girl's a freak. Zero alcohol. She's a freak. She's all over me, making out with me. I'm like, oh, I got this one. Thought it was in the bag. Bennigan's? Oh, my goodness.

Thought it was in the bag we take a break we take a break linebacker comes up and asks her to dance he's on the dance floor making out they're looking at me giving me this evil look like i'm like oh man this guy's totally dominating me punking me jungle like right there in front of my aunt and this girl. He's all over Don now, and he owns this girl. The club's over. The lights turn on. The lights turn on, and he's looking at me, and he's leaning against it. We're trying to figure out what we're going to do, and he's holding the lights, and he goes, where you at?

Where you at? Oh, my goodness. And I'm like, man, I'm right here doing nothing, just shriveling up. It turned into like a nightmare night. So it's this 1991. There's no cell phones. So the plan was to meet at my aunt's house, right? I'm like, okay.

I drove with them. I go, give me the keys. You guys drank too much. These guys have to follow us to my aunt's house. Watch this. There's a little Honda Prelude. I'm on the freeway. My aunt's going, you're going to lose them.

You're going to lose them. I'm like, no, I'm not. They're right behind me. Lost them. Got back home. My aunt's on the phone trying to figure, you know, because you got to go to a pay phone to get, then call the house. That can take 30 minutes.

Wow. Yeah, so I lost them on purpose. That's hilarious. I think you lost trying to pick up a girl with your aunt and then gonna If it works out if at the end of the story he has the best sex ever he and the girl they they smoke a Little weed and have the best sex of all time like that But if but if the innocent was that it, I had sex with her for 30 seconds. For 30 seconds.

You did? With Dawn? I wanted to get revenge on her. Oh, after all this? No, I didn't finish it. We get to my aunt's house. I take her right back to the... I had no idea.

I know I had 20, 30 minutes before they were going to figure out where the hell she lived. I lost them on purpose. Right, right, right. So I'm going to get a little revenge here. So she was all over me. She was just a wild girl. Had sex with her for 30 seconds, and as soon as I was done, she had just begun. I said, I got to move my car really quick.

I'm going to get a ticket. I'll be right back. See you. I got in my car. I was gone. Never heard from her ever again. I've never met a hot Don. Oh, I knew a hot Don.

Really? Oh, yeah. What was her full name, though? Donna? She was hot as fuck. No, I don't was her full name, though? She was hot as fuck No, I don't remember It was just Dawn She was hot as fuck

She was way too smart Damn I was way too stupid at the time I was like 21 And she was at least my age Maybe a year older She used to work for this comedy club That I worked at

She graduated from Harvard With a degree in women's studies Jesus Yeah, we had terrifying conversations I bet She's way too smart Way too educated for me Don's not fucking around

At the time I was I knew it too Never even tried to hit on her Never tried to pick her up I'm like You're intimidated Way too stupid for this girl

By the brain Oh yeah yeah yeah for sure She was hot too And Yeah I just wasn't ready for that Damn our boy Kakuno Back at it Kakuno and Diego Brandao Was his last fight Tony Ferguson?

I think it was We got Merc God damn Tony Ferguson Scary Tony Ferguson is just He's capable of fighting 100% of his ability When he gets in there

Ooh he has a tough fight next though He's got a very tough fight But Tony Ferguson does not fold up shop He's like as steady as a rock He's so game He's so game I haven's got a very tough fight. But Tony Ferguson does not fold up shop. He's, like, as steady as a rock. He's so game. He's so game. I haven't seen a guy game like him since Ray Diaz. Oh, he's scary.

Since Nick Diaz. Yeah, it's insane. He's scary. Tony Ferguson is scary. And his work ethic is incredible. You can tell. Yeah. You can tell.

For sure, he gets better every fight. But this next one's a real, I mean, this is where we decide where he's going to go. You know what I'm saying? 100%. He wins this one, off to the races. Habib Nurmagomedov, for people who don't know what the fight is. Habib Nurmagomedov is undefeated. He's a former world Sambo champion and one of the best grapplers in MMA.

He's a fucking octopus. And he beat the champ already, Dos Anjos. He's beaten Dos Anjos and he ragdolled them. He ragdolled Dos Anjos, especially in the second and third round. He starts breaking guys with his pressure. His fucking takedowns are nasty. His ground and pound is nasty. He's so dominant in grappling. But

he's coming off that injury. A long layoff. So if there's any time to catch him, it's now. And you know, who knows how much damage he had done to his knee because there was more than one injury. There were several injuries. It wasn't just like, hurt it, got it repaired, did the proper due diligence, and then came back.

There was another injury, I believe, during rehab, right? No, so he hurt it, had surgery, went to rehab, did all that, got better, hurt it again. Yeah, see? So we're dealing with a real problem here, and it also could be one of the reasons why he's so fucking good.

He's so good because he's this relentless ferocious bulldog, dude You know I mean that motherfucker doesn't take a step back. He attacks attacks. That's all those boys that aka though Yeah, well you're right think about it. Well, but particularly him especially with the ground to though James got like that too Yeah, but look hit look at his knees and look at and look at DC Yeah, he's had a knee injury, But that's, you know what, man? It's like, don't, isn't that like a part of that package? Like a part of that package is your red line in your body. That's what comes with the territory, right?

You're going to break some shit. I sparred DC one time. I was like, what the fuck? What the fuck are we doing here? It's pressure, huh? No, it's just calming. Every round. How many want to go?

Shop eight? Nah, man. I'm cool. Jesus Christ. He just keeps coming. Keeps coming. I've never seen anything like it. That's what happens when you work with Kane.

You know, him and Kane both feed off of each other. And I think that was like a huge contributing factor to who he is right now. Oh, I agree 100%. You get that Olympic drive and then those two get together. Both of them together. What? Just fucking sharpening each other. And he tossed Rockhold into the mix.

Oh, yeah. Fuck, man. And a bunch of other guys there now, too. A ton of other guys. A bunch of other guys there now. But Rockhold right now on fire. That's a big fight, that fucking December fight. I think it's the best fight in middleweight history.

Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. I think other than the Anderson-Weidman, the first fight, before Weidman knocked him out. Before that fight, that was the biggest fight in history because Weidman was a crusher. We knew Weidman was a crusher. We saw what Weidman did to Munoz. We saw this dude who just looks unstoppable.

He's just tough as shit, super solid wrestler, knockout power. And then Anderson was the motherfucker. And before that fight, that was the biggest fight in the history. Before that, when he got in, I feel like we've seen the best of Anderson. I think now... We didn't know that, though. We didn't know that. The fight before that was the Bonner fight, man.

The fight before... Joe, look at me. But he looked like he was in the Matrix. Joe. No, you know. I know, it's Bonner, though. You're right. You're right.

Bonner's not at the same level. But the way he won was so shocking... It was insane. I agree. ...that everybody was terrified of him after that. And Bonner's on at the same level, but the way he won was so shocking. It was insane. I agree. That everybody was terrified of him after that. And Bonner's on some shit. And he was on some shit.

And then before that, he had destroyed Chael, the Vitor front kick. I mean, look, Anderson hadn't even been in trouble except for the Chael fight, and everybody knew he came into that fight with injured ribs. Pretty much after the fight, everybody knew, right? True. I just feel like Weidman's beating dudes in their prime right now. He has. Rockhold's beating dudes in their prime.

You're talking about fucking monsters. And now these two meetidman's beating dudes in their prime right now Rockhold's beating dudes in the when you're talking about fucking monsters and now these two meet the both young in the prime Before Weidman and Anderson fought Weidman Anderson rather was considered the greatest pound-for-pound fighter ever. I agree I just think at some point it maybe it was that fight maybe was in camp He lost that that edge You know I'm saying it could have been that he lost edge, or it could be Weidman's just that motherfucker. He's just that good. He could be that motherfucker. But before that fight, I think that was the biggest fight of all time.

And I think it still holds up. I think this is right up there with that, though. I just feel like style-wise, Rockhold, Weidman's a better style matchup. Like, Weidman— I don't know, man. I do. I thought Anderson Weidman was an amazing style matchup. I didn't.

Because I was like, how is Weidman going to deal with him on the feet? You know what? Because I feel, because I was going off Chael and Anderson, and Chael could kind of do whatever he wanted. Kept taking him down, kept taking him down, right? That first fight.

First fight. And kind of basically beat him, then ended up fucking up at the very end and getting caught in that triangle. Right. I feel like Wyman's a better striker than Chael, better wrestler. So I feel like you put those together,

if he wanted to, he could make it a boring fight and win that fight every time. You got a good point. And, you know, you got a good point, especially about Weidman's submission ability. Ooh, he's nasty. His submission ability is definitely better. Chael's is underrated. I mean, Chael did submit Shogun. He caught him in that guillotine.

I don't think anyone expected that. Chael can submit guys. Who did he arm triangle? Did he arm triangle Stan? Stan. He's a motherfucker, man. He's a strong, powerful wrestler. You know chael's been had inconsistent performances but like when he was at his best like in that anderson fight especially dude he's not how about the marquardt

fight he's nasty i mean chael sonny can fight super i agree he's a tough as tough as they come i love you know and weidman is a really good wrestler, but I think Chael, at his best, he showed the same level of wrestling ability. But as far as a mixed martial artist? As a mixed martial artist? Chris Weidman striking is nasty. Much more dangerous with his power. Did you see the Raya Hall fight? Did you see that fight?

Yes, back in the day. Nasty. In the same left hook. Chael's never been a really good striker. No, not nearly like that. But Weid In the same left hook. The same left tuck. Chael's never been like a really good striker. No, not nearly like that. But Wyman can put it together. Like GSP style. He looked good in the Anderson fight.

The first round when he caught Anderson with a straight left. True, he did. He came out striking. But the difference, I think, is that Wyman is a crusher. He crushes guys. And he has you hurt. He turns into a fucking monster. Monster.

And he turns it on and smashes you. You saw that in the first Uriah Hall fight. You've it in a bunch of the the munoz fight was one of the most terrifying elbow man i think wyman rockhold is definitely a fight for the ages but i i'm as excited about that as i was the anderson uh wyman fight for some reason i'm more excited about it well then i kind of i couldn't get any more i mean both of those fights to me, like, that's like the top of the heap. I agree. I see that. But you know what I'm saying?

I don't think this is the biggest one ever. I think they're both like the same level of huge. I think the Anderson-Weidman fight is just as big as this. This is this, you know, that fight was a crazy fight. And the way it ended with Anderson clowning him and Weidman catching him with that left hook. I mean, while it was happening happening I could not fucking believe my eyes I think it kind of fucked Weidman because that no one took him serious and then they fight the rematch then fucking answers leg falls Off right now we're like fuck man

But then Weidman finally kind of gets his credit when he fights Machida right and then he destroys Vitor Yeah, but he's still like Weidman to me should be the biggest star in the UFC Yeah, all-american dude beats the very best at 185. I don't give a fuck what division you want to talk about. 185, he's American, he speaks well, he's super smart, right? He's a family guy. I don't know why he's not a bigger star. You got a really good point, man.

That's a really good point. I mean, it's not like he doesn't have the ability. No, he's like fucking our Nolan Ryan. You know what I'm saying? You think it's because people just don't know? I don't know what it is. He's not a shit talker, right? He's not a big shit talker, but inside the octagon, he is a motherfucker.

Dude, he's got something. There's something about him that you can tell. Like when guys go eye to eye with him, like they see it in him. It's weird. There's a few guys like that. Like when guys lock eyes with them him, they see it in them. And he's one of those. And that's why the Anderson stare down with him was so interesting.

When Anderson got mouth-to-mouth with him, and Weidman looked at him and goes, I'm not afraid of you, dude. But there was a reality to it. There was a reality to it that Anderson was like, oh, shit. He's in some shit. What have I done? You know Weidman wants to fight at, he wants to fight Jon Jones. He wants to fight Jon Jones at Madison Square Garden.

But it's still illegal, though. 100% thinks he can beat him. Well, it's illegal and John Jones has some shit going on. Well, I don't know what's going on with the John Jones situation. I know he comes fresh out of prison and beats the fuck out of anyone in the world. He might not have to go to prison. What do you guys think about the...

I don't know what the rules are to you. I have no idea. I wish him, I want to see him back, man. I just don't want him to keep repeating this kind of behavior. I like John. At his best, John's a fucking really interesting, intelligent guy with a crazy amount of stress, a crazy amount of responsibility. We don't have a fighter like him in the UFC right now. We just don't.

Well, he's definitely different than everybody else. What about Nick Diaz? What do you guys feel about that? The worst travesty I've ever heard of in any of the regulatory decisions that I've ever heard about. Isn't the senator getting involved as well today? Is he talking shit?

They took his livelihood from him. Five years for Nick Diaz is over, man. Not only that, they did it based on one test that's not nearly as accurate as the other two tests. The other two tests, which were run by the World Anti-Doping Agency, the ones that take blood, those are way more accurate. And those, he passed two of them. He passed two of those blood tests. It's so fucked up.

And then they take this urine test, and they run it through this laboratory, but urine is just not nearly as accurate. It's just not. So them getting on him for that is fucking crazy. And then, you know, I think they were upset that he took the fifth. Okay. Four minutes, 56 seconds right now in the Coccuno-Diego Brandao fight. This is an interesting fight. Coccuno, if you've never seen him before, he's got a weird style.

Oh! Brandao cracked him! A style that does not work, everybody. Well, Tony Ferguson lit him up. That style did not work with Tony. Well, he's getting lit up right now. Oh, shit. He got cracked again.

Hey, for sure keep your hands up, though, huh? Diego Brando throwing some bombs. Jesus. Diego's ragged on the right hand. Oh, that fence. Diego's got him fucked up. That's it. Diego Brando.

Vicious stoppage. Good God. Vicious stoppage by Diego Brando. That was like Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler and shit. Oh, my God. It was like bully beatdown. Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler went a full round, believe it or not. Went into the second round when Hagler stopped him.

God, that was an ass whooping. Jesus Christ. Maybe let's go back to the drawing board, huh? Put your hands up. Well, Kakuno, he used to have a lot of success with that. He has like a 45-degree front kick that he throws. Have you seen it? It's like a combination of a roundhouse kick and a front kick it's real weird and we hit guys right in the liver

with it and it's it's nasty man eddie you've seen it before you're the one who told me about it you were the first one who told me about you you're like have you ever seen this guy in japan he's throwing this kick you go i don't think it's a roundhouse kick but it ain't like a front kick it's like something different it's in between he between. He's throwing like a side snapping front snap kick with the balls of your feet to the liver. Not anymore. You know what? When you throw a round kick, when you throw a round kick and you hit with the shin, it's probably the most powerful way you can throw it because your foot doesn't give in.

Like when you throw a kick with your foot, your foot kind of gives a little, and you can hurt someone, but it's nearly effect as effective with like the ball of the foot as it is with the heel for sure the heel is way more effective because the heel doesn't have any give like this you can have a little bit of resistance because of your foot and it's like hitting someone almost like with like a cushion behind it yeah but the way kakuno was doing it you could tell he had done it so many times, and his technique was so sharp. There was not much movement in his foot. And when he would pull his foot back, he would really dig the ball of the foot in there.

It was like really high-level stuff. Like a lot of Kyokushin guys are really good at that. They develop that ability to throw those front snap kicks. The technique gets so sharp that at the end of it they're so good at like thrusting the ball of the foot in there yeah i think it's another one of those kicks man we're starting to see more of like cowboy uses that a lot now he used that on jim miller he's throwing that like front kick to the body oh yeah but you're it's the same thing you're hitting the guy with the ball of the foot anderson did it connor did it to chad connor did it connor

does it a lot to the body yeah anderson did yeah face yep anderson did it to the body. Anderson did it. Conor did it to Chad. Conor did it. Conor does it a lot. To the body, yeah. Anderson did it to the face. Yep, Anderson did it to the face. I think he was the first. He was aiming just for the liver. But he hasn't done it in the UFC. He's done it a few times in Japan, and he's got some heavy hands, too.

He has a great combo where he'll open you up with the hands just to land that thing and then vice versa. Well, he hit Tony in that fight. He definitely caught Tony with some good shots. Tony can take a punch too man i just think tony hits even harder you know tony yeah he might be the hardest hitter he's wait ferocious tony ferguson's ferocious hey back to that ds thing though what do they do what can you do i think they sue i think they take it to court and i think they win easy i don't think there's a problem with winning. I think if you look at the facts, the fact that he passed two WADA tests that are much more stringent, the fact that, you know, there's a threshold, like they don't want you to be high while you're competing.

I think that's reasonable, but the threshold is very low. The threshold is so low, you know, or so high rather that like you could have smoked pot a couple of days ago. Yeah. And you should pass, according to Jeff Novitsky. And Jeff Novitsky should know, right? So, I mean, I think they're reasonable about it. I think what's unreasonable is they're not willing to take any consideration of those other two tests. Like, if they looked at the chain of custody from the time, like, the blood was drawn, it was all done to the water standard, which is, you know, world anti-doping, right? If it was done to that standard, they should accept that.

100%. Those are better, more stringent tests. And, in fact, they shouldn't even need to perform their own tests. As long as there's no suspicion of corruption, there's no suspicion that someone's changing results or trying to protect a fighter. And the UFC doesn't do that. Look, I mean, if they did, I mean, look at all the fucking different people that have been popped. You know, they wouldn't want those guys popped. Although, did you hear the Belfort thing?

Did you hear that thing? I was just going to bring that up. I don't want to piss on your parade. What's the latest? I don't want to piss on your parade. I thought about it while I was saying it. While you're saying it, I was like, well, when you're best friends with Lorenzo. Well, he had, apparently, they had accidentally sent out some results of one of Vitor's tests

before he fought Jon Jones, and he had been flagged as having high testosterone. But I think this is while he had a testosterone exemption. So I think the issue is not that he used testosterone. I think he was allowed to then. That was back when the UFC was kind of involved. They were allowed to have testosterone use exemptions. I believe he is. So I don't think he was doing anything illegal.

I think it was just high. So I think, like, they were talking about it in an article where the doctor would tell you, like, say if your upper threshold is, like, 1,200, which is apparently, like, really crazy, right? If the doctor saw that you were at 1,100 when they test you, they're like, look, you're a little high. Like, 10 above 10 is high,

so we want you to drop your dose down a little bit. That's what their explanation was. Do we know what Vitor was at? I know at one point he was tested at 1475. Good God. That's super silverback. Werewolf, hyena dick. That's fucked up, man.

That's dangerous as fuck. But people have tested real high before. Nate Marquardt was actually pulled out of a fight. Rick Story fight. Charlie Brenneman took his place last minute and won against Rick Story. Crazy fucking fight. Biggest fight of Charlie's career. And they pulled Nate out because of his results.

He was that high. He was that high. Like, he had an exemption. Yeah. And they looked at his results, and they're like, what? What? What are you doing? And I know Nate.

You know, I know Nate well. I know the— It's tough. It's when fighters are relying on doctors. Here's another issue. There you go. You don't—like, who the—could you tell him how much to take? I could—the only one who knows how much he's going to take to put him in his legal limit is his doctor.

Now, if his doctor gives him the same amount every week, and then he's giving it to him on a Monday, and Nate's getting tested on a Friday, he's had a chance for his levels to naturally go lower. There you go. But when a guy's about to fight, the doctor may likely say for best performance, like if you want to fight at your best,

you should have it as high as possible. So take your injection right before you weigh in or something along those lines and that way it'll be at its peak the next day or even if you're used to getting a shot on monday and you're flying out to the fight on tuesday you do a day late can fuck with the results you know what i'm saying that nate's not used to yeah but the point is that like when he was at the peak like whatever his peak was that if that was the normal that he was taking at that level like that's not even human. These are what you call hyperhuman levels,

what doctors refer to as hyperhuman levels. You get to certain levels, like 15, 1600, you're like, Jesus Christ, you go to those freak bodybuilder levels. What are they at? What are the bodybuilders at? Do we know? Those guys, they're not even human.

They take so much growth. They're not, they're so ridiculously muscular Those guys aren't even human. They take so much growth. They're so ridiculously muscular and so just overwhelmingly cartoonishly powerful. Like, you look at just striated. They get addicted to that, man. Dude, I look at those guys and I think, what's the end of the road like for those guys? Like, how long can you run at that level? I think you just get fat after a while. No, no, look at...

You can't. No, look at... What's his face? Homeboy from England. Dorian Yates is one of the best of all time. Yeah. He's in his 50s now. He's fit, healthy.

He looks thick. You know, he's thick like you. Yeah. He's not thick like freakish. Yeah. He's thick like an athlete now. You know, he looks good, man. And he's super open about it.

Talks about all the shit he took. Talks about what everybody does. I mean, he's super open about it. about all the shit he took talks about what everybody does i mean he's super open about it tells you exactly what his dosage were he wasn't you know there wasn't any higher than anybody else but he also highlights that the reason why he got so good the reason why he was mr olympia was he was willing to fucking work harder like it wasn't just the drugs no they're all in juice there's a difference it's a work ethic however not a sport not a sport not a sport not a sport it's something different it's hard to put it you know like how can you say that that is like boxing boxing is a sport soccer is a sport you're trying to win right you're trying to do something faster and move quicker when you don't move like your your whole thing is standing

still this is your shit your shit is this this. Standing still. It's, um, it's an art form. It's not one that I'm really into. You know, when you think about it, it's pretty homosexual, man. It's other dudes judging dudes' body. Think about it. You know what, man? There's definitely a little weirdness to it.

I wouldn't say homosexual. It's, uh, self-congratulatory. There's something, uh, There's something silly about it. You ever see my boy Kai Green before? Some shit that he did to make ends meet? Um, what? I'm preparing myself. Yo, what?

Oh, no. You know what I'm talking about, Jamie? What are you looking for, brother? Like a beer or something? Yeah, grab some, man. Yeah, I'll take one. Thank you. Yeah, Kai Green who?

Yeah, I'll take a beer, brother. Brandon. He did not call me Brandon. Brandon. Before we get going, thanks to Grillo's Pickles for hooking us up again. Those are the best. They're the shit. He's growing now.

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Pickles are good for you. They're like one of those weird snacks where it's okay to eat. Sure. There's nothing bad about it. It's true. I believe you. You know the pickle juice has electrolytes. I'm not sure.

I want to believe you. I want to believe you, too. Well, certain ones have sugar in them. Certain ones have sugar in them. But the pickle juice, people drink for electrolytes. We used to have it on the sidelines. This is the Tyron Woodley-Johnny Hendricks fight. Didn't Woodley say that Johnny Hendricks bit him?

Didn't he say he bit him or some shit? He grabbed his face. But see, you know what, man? That's like a frozen moment in time. It's real hard unless you see the actual video of what it looked like when the hand made contact with the face. But see, you know what, man? That's like a frozen moment in time. It's real hard unless you see the actual video of what it looked like when the hand made contact with the face. Because everybody knows that in the middle of a crazy

grappling session, occasionally a hand will go where it's not supposed to go. And who gives a shit if you've been there? Look at the kind of shape he's in. Wow. Yo, they're both in amazing shape. Both amazing fighters, man. It's a really interesting fight, man. Woodley is training a lot now with Duke Duke Rufus help is striking out. Yeah, that's his biggest promise is striking really

Wouldn't say it's his problem. I think he's you know, I think his He's almost got like too much of a gift in his power and speed and when you you use that gift You know, he can do shit like the way he can move he can move like as fast as anybody if not faster than anybody but that requires a lot of energy and you got to know when to do it when not to do a lot of oxygen yeah so i think he has because of that he has a it's compared to a guy who doesn't have that kind of horsepower he has like a unique situation to have to he has to really like figure out when to sprint and when to lay back.

And I think you saw way more of that in the Kelvin Gaslam fight. And that was a fight that he worked with Duke. Duke is like such a smart, polished striker that I think Tyron can only get better training with him. But at the end of the day, what's scary about that dude is always that fucking bum rush, man.

See, I think with Woodley, that's what he has to do. Like with Woodley, I don't think you say, hey man, let's drag this into later rounds and try and beat Johnny Hendricks. You ain't gonna beat him that way.. See, I think with Woodley, that's what he has to do. Like with Woodley, I don't think you say, hey man, let's drag this into later rounds and try and beat Johnny Hendricks. You ain't going to beat him that way. You know what I think?

I think you get better at everything. I think that's it. I don't think like saying, hey, the only way you can win this is a sprint. I think that guy's getting better and I think they're all

getting better. So you think he can up his cardio? 100%. Really? I think he changes his approach. Changes his approach just slightly. Be a little bit more efficient

and just know, just know when to sprint, when not, and I think that comes with experience too, don't you? I agree. He has a lot of fights though. He does have a lot of fights. But you know, coming into it as a wrestler, when you think about the actual amount of strike, here you see him like, look how fast the fucking dude is. Jesus Christ. He's a fucking monster.

I think when you look at his actual striking experience though, it's not nearly as much as say, his grappling experience. 100%. You know, so he's got to catch up in a certain way. That was a crazy fight. Him and Koshtak, Jesus Christ. That was the big one, the Jay Heron fight.

That was the one where you say, Jesus, if this dude bum rushes you, you've got a fucking terrifying problem. But then it didn't work in the Rory McDonald fight. Rory McDonald figured out a way how to solve the riddle that is that big right hand and the bum rush, kept his hands up high, and did the extension thing with his arms. He was throwing a lot of jabs.

Rory's going to drag you into later rounds. Well, Rory avoided all the craziness. He avoided all the craziness. And that's Firas, dude. Firas Ahabi's a wizard. You ever see his breakdowns? He breaks down fights and talks about technique and why guys are good. He's one of my favorite guys on the planet.

I think as far as MMA coaches go, he's number one. He's the best I've ever been around. Well, Matt, he was pretty goddamn good, too. He's revolutionizing guard point. Yeah, he is. Think about his guys. GSP and then Roy McDonald. He's had those guys since day one.

Well, there's a few guys right now that I think they're all in the mix. I think your boy Mark Henry's in the mix. For sure. For sure. He's so underrated, that guy. But he's all striking. Mm-hmm. He is all striking.

Like, Firas is black belt in jiu-jitsu, ridiculous kickboxer, great boxer. I'm just talking about, like, straight MMA coach. Monster. Didn't he wrestle in college too? He did something. But you know what, dude? How do you fuck with Matt Hume? I mean, look at Matt Hume's best student.

His best student is pound for pound the best guy on the planet Earth today. Mighty Mouse may be fighting guys that are small, and they may be not the same sort of talent pool. But you can't tell me John Dodson is a motherfucker. He's a motherfucker. John Dodson is a goddamn motherfucker. And Mighty Mouse shut him down and did so in the most efficient and impressive way I've ever seen. Mighty Mouse is top five.

Barely got hit. He's not my number one. He's top five. Okay. Well, you know, it's all subjective. Oh, I agree. But he's my number one. I think he's the best.

And you watch Matt Hume and him work together You watch all the strategy that's involved and all the thinking and all the technique and the footwork He's a mother those two guys man. You want to have a super team Jesus Christ for rasa Hobby and Matt Hume on the same team well What's impressive with Matt Hume is at that at that let lighter weight you have to be good at fucking everything No holes no zero holes and Mighty Mouse has that he's good he's a black belt and everything world-class and everything he's also so fucking sneaky man he's so sneaky like

when he's when he's moving on those dudes like when I'm watching him move on dots and I'm like this motherfucker in his footwork like it's never the same beat you know what I'm saying? It's not like one, two, one, two, one, two. Yeah, there's no tendencies. There's all this sporadic shit that your brain has to try to process. And that's something that Firas has talked about, too. Like, overloading a dude's mind with possibilities.

And I think Firas is really the only guy I've ever heard articulate it. But you can see it in the movements of Mighty Mouse. That's clearly what they're trying to initiate. Bro, let's talk about Chris Weidman needs to do something. Mighty Mouse, we got to figure something out. I know, right? We got to figure something out. We need a gimmick.

I don't know if he comes in with a cape. I don't know what the fuck. We got to do something, man. I don't know, man. We got to figure something out. I just hope if we keep talking about him, people eventually figure it out. I don't think that's enough. So what's the big fight for Mighty Mouse? Maybe Henry Cejudo?

No, fuck no. Henry Cejudo's a big fight, but now Henry Cejudo says he won't fight in Vegas because of Nick Diaz. And he doesn't even smoke weed. He doesn't even smoke weed, but for him, it's a matter of principle. Every UFC fighter should do this. You want to make a fucking change, just say, hey, we're not fighting in Vegas. You think they'll change it, or they'll just say, fuck it? I think they would.

There's so much money. You think they're going to change it? I do. I think they're going to lose the lawsuit, first of all. I'm pretty sure they're going to lose the lawsuit. The lawsuit's for real. They're going to go. Oh, 100%. They can't let this happen. And by the way, they've already lost when they had a lifetime ban on Vanderlei Silva. They lost that. You can't do that.

You can't give a guy a lifetime ban. You can't callously take away a man's livelihood when he didn't even test positive. I agree. Vanderlei didn't do the right thing by avoiding the test. He ran. He ran. We don't know what he was on.

We don't know what the situation was. We know what he said. Okay? But all I'm saying is we lay it out. I agree. You have to punish him for sure. Right? There has to be some sort of punishment.

But the idea of taking away the man's livelihood as a punishment for escaping a drug test that if he was positive for would only get at the time, I think it was a nine-month suspension that was mandatory, right? You can't do that. It's insane. That's a tyranny. Don't you think just these fucks who check guys' piss and blood are the baddest dudes on the planet just trying to flex their muscle. They go home at night like, yeah, he's banned for life. I fuck that dude. Well, you know what it is, man?

I think it's the same problem that we have with cops in a lot of ways. It becomes a game of trying to win. Because when you hear about prosecutors and when you hear about cops that are hiding evidence and prosecutors that are avoiding avoiding evidence or they withdraw evidence that shows that they're the Person that they're trying to convict may be innocent. Yeah, you hear about those stories you go How could someone do that the need to do that will also because they want the score they want to win Why do people cheat when it comes to like card games or pool you want to win? Why do they do they do it because they want to win it becomes a score thing and when you're arresting people It becomes a score so fucked up man. Yeah, it's fucking think about think about if all the fighters got together

Like you know what you want to treat our boy Nick Diaz like this We're not fucking fighting in Vegas, but the big dogs do yeah Connor Rhonda right fucking cane right now Until you change this until you change us. We're not coming there mighty mouse T We see fucking change really, really fast. A lot of people were disappointed in something Mighty Mouse said earlier this week. I didn't read the quote, though. He said he would fight. But there was a quote that people were upset about, a very particular quote.

I don't remember what it was. I don't know what it was. I want to paraphrase it. Can we get Mighty Mouse a PR guy something? I don't know what's wrong, man. Can we get Conor McGregor in his ear or some shit? I don't know what's wrong. What about that case where those kids in Paradise Lost, they get accused of murdering these boys in the woods

because they thought the dumbass cops in the small town, they thought it was a satanic ritual because the animals would come and they'd eat the balls and they'd eat the dick. Oh, the documentary, you're talking about the documentary? Yeah, that documentary, Paradise Lost. You gotta see this in three parts. Oh, the animals would eat the balls and dicks so they thought that these guys ate the balls? Satanic, this is satanic!

So they went to the high school and found the goth kids and fucking prosecuted them. So what happened to the boys? They were in jail for like 17, 20 years. No, the boys who got their dicks eaten, how'd they die? They ended up- They got their dicks eaten off! They got murdered, they got murdered, but they went got their dicks eaten. How'd they die? They got their dicks eaten off.

They got murdered, but they went after the goth kids because they thought it was a satanic murder. Who knows who did it? So they never found the guys. But when you look into the story, man. Some shit. It's deep, dude. It's three parts.

Paradise Lost. Dude, they were in jail. And they knew it. And when they finally figured out that they didn't do it, they decided to say there was so much pressure with the Supreme Court that they didn't want to lose so bad that they said, hey, we'll let you guys out of prison right now, but you got to admit that you did it.

Wow. It was so – they let them out. Instead of dragging on another couple years, they let him out as long as they... Admitted that they did it. Yeah. Oh, my God. They let him out.

So they got them off the hook, and then they let him out. They still won. They got a conviction. That was the most important thing. By the way, George Roop is in the middle of fighting Mitsugaki right now. Four minutes, 22 seconds into the first round. It's a fucking scrap so far. I haven't seen George Roop fight in a grip of fighting Mitsugaki right now. Four minutes, 22 seconds into the first round. It's a fucking scrap so far. Bro, I haven't seen

George Roop fight in a grip. Did I just miss something? Well, Mitsugaki, the last... Did he have a fight after the Dominic Cruz fight? No, I don't think so. Dominic Cruz made him take a vacation. Straight vacation. It's time to just lay back. Just fucking chill out. Figure out what the fuck just happened. I hear ya. Dominic Cruz

came out like a wildebeest. Fighting TJ Dillashaw. That's a fight. Fuck. That's a motherfucker a fight I hope he stays healthy I hope he's me doesn't fall off he's a beast dude he came running like some sort of a wild animal at him I mean that was what it was like fuck this warm like a Tasmanian they just went swarmed on him yeah yeah and then after when I was talking to him he's like dude I barely even remember with a fight He just saw red. He just went into the zone, like immediately into the zone. See, one of the things I like about Dominic specifically is the way he thinks about fighting.

And you see that when he does the UFC analyst position, when he starts talking about, like, especially post-fight breakdowns, what guys did wrong. And he's really's really aware of movement and technique. Very on top of the sport. Constantly. Him and DC are probably the two smartest guys I know about the sport. As far as current fighters talking about the sport, you listen to Dominic Cruz talk, you're like,

Jesus Christ. He was helping Cheo out before. I forget who Cheo was going to fight, but we were working out together and he was discussing these angles and his footwork. I was like, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's his Ph.D. in footwork. Yeah, he's a wizard. And I think he opened up a lot of guys' eyes as to how frustrating that shit was.

You know, I think a lot of people, you know, he's one of those, there's these innovators, there's these fighters that will take, like, these steps. And when they take these steps these steps like you see everybody else go oh it's a copycat league yeah oh for sure i mean well as a sport i mean i think the sport is still first of all there's more variables i think in mixed martial arts than there are in any other combat sport by far right we could easily agree to that and i think that just the unique demands of combat sports the the ability to keep your motions in check and to deal with getting your fucking bell rung, getting blasted while you're in there.

There's those variables. There's so many. And then the different ways you can fight. The fact that you can take a fight to the ground. The fact that you have to avoid a guy trying to take you to the ground. The fact that while you're thinking about the guy trying to take you to the ground, he can punch you in the face because you're looking for there's so many variables going on. We're not even remotely done with figuring

out what's the best way to do this thing. I don't know if we ever will be. I don't think we ever will. I think it's constantly evolving. Just while it's based off your personality. Jiu-jitsu alone, you don't have enough time to master at all. There's no way. There's too many techniques in jiu-jitsu to master.

You add the wrestling, and then you add the kickboxing. And body type. And certain body types. Sure. The Haja Gracie body, right? Arguably the best, right? That's the best body for the long, strong guys. His striking's getting better, right?

Haja Gracie? It seems like, I don't know if he's still fighting, but his last fight, he won and it looked like his jab was- Did he decide to stop doing MMA? I think so. Yeah, he's focused on jiu-jitsu. Did he? Yeah.

I think he decided- He won his last fight and then just said, fuck it? I think so. Yeah, he won his last. I'm not positively retired, but I know he's doing way more jiu-jitsu. It seemed like his striking was finally coming together. One of the nicest guys ever, man. Good footwork and good jab.

Good dude. I'm a big fan. Me too. I'm a big fan of his jiu-jitsu too. But you know who impressed the shit out of me in the Neil Magny fight is Damian Maia. I was like, Jesus Christ, he's a boa constrictor. I mean, I knew it from the Rick Story fight. I saw it in the Rick Story fight.

I'm like, this is like a next-level constrictor, especially when he gets down to 170. He's a big-ass 170. At 185, he was like a good size. He wasn't undersized. But at 170, you can tell that with his technique and then the strength and leverage, the long limbs advantage that he's having,

God damn. He's on a tear right now. Woo! Super tear. But it's the way he took the back, and then when I talked to him about it afterwards, after the fight, he was talking about the adjustments that he had to make

to get Neil Magny's back and to finish him off because of how he was defending. I'm like, this guy, he's on a very, very high level. Very high level. Super high level. Thank God. I can't think of a worse matchup on a very, very high level. Very high level. Super high level. Thank God. I can't think of a worse matchup for Neil. Then Neil took that fight against Eric Silva and then won that fight, so he's back on track.

Yeah. The Eric Silva fight was a good fight. It was weird. It was weird to see Eric Silva look like that, right? Yeah, super weird. A lot of people had questions about the way he looked physically. This is just something we're going to have to deal in the middle of this this drug testing environment now like everyone's under suspicion right and when you come in and your body looks

radically different than it did before immediately people are gonna suspect don't you think people have the right to suspect for sure you think steroids and boxing yeah yeah boxing's been around for 7,000 years and they haven't figured out how to keep that together? They don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck. Let me tell you something right now. Let me tell you something right now. The amount of testing that the UFC fighters go through is above and beyond anything you

ever see ever in boxing, ever. Unless you get a Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao type situation where they agree. Then it's similar. They agree to water testing. Yeah. But even in that one, we found out that Floyd took an IV. Yeah. Bro, you're not allowed to take an IV.

Without getting it cleared. In boxing? Yes. Really? With under the U.S. anti-doping agency rules because you can use an IV, and the IV can mask the use of any sort of steroid you're on. Yeah.

Bro, you ever seen Evander Holyfield back in the day? That was steroids? He could have won like third in Mr. Olympia. He's fucking jacked. Well, when he went up from cruiserweight. And he got tested positive. He didn't test positive, but he got linked to a steroid clinic under the name like Bully Holyfield or some bullshit.

Tyson ever fucked with that? He got fucked. What about Tyson? What do you think? What do I think? If I had to bet my entire life savings on it? 100%. But I don't know for sure.

Who knows? I know professional sports. I'll tell you what, though, man. When Tyson came out of jail, remember when we saw Jack Tyson? Damn, Ichigaki just cracked George Rube with two big shots. Remember Jack Tyson? Oh, yeah. When Tyson fought, was it Kevin Ferguson was his first opponent right out of jail?

Is that what his name was? Kevin something? Ferguson, that's right. Is that right? Yeah, that's right. I feel like it's wrong. There was an Irish guy. Tony Ferguson?

No, no, no. Who was the Irish guy that he fought the first time out of jail? I want to say Jacob Bryan? I feel like Ferguson's right. No. What's that? Peter McNeely.

That's it. Jacob Bryan is a guy who fought in the UFC. What am I talking about? Yeah, he is. Light heavyweight. Yeah. And heavy. Yeah, Peter McNeely.

When Tyson fought Peter McNeely, did you ever see what he looked like from that fight? Jamie, pull up a picture of Mike Tyson versus Peter McNeely, did you ever see what he looked like from that fight? Jamie, pull up a picture of Mike Tyson versus Peter McNeely. Fresh out of prison? He looked like a bodybuilder. He looked like a bodybuilder. Enjoy that fight. Radical six-pack.

Fucking super buff. So he was getting good nutrition in jail. Everyone gets swole like that in jail. From those fucking three square meals a day. Terrible food they give you, apparently. Who the fuck would sign up for that fight? Tyson? Oh, shit.

Hey, that's like fighting John Jones out of jail or prison. Enjoy that. I know, right? It's going to be a motherfucker. Well, also, the amount of people that were paying attention to that because they felt like Mike Tyson got railroaded. Like, that was a questionable decision, like, what had happened to him. True.

And the lawyer's sort of strategy for dealing with the case was that the girl should have known. She should have known where she was going. At 3 a.m., no hotel room? Yeah, that she should have known, but also she should have known because of the guy that Mike is. Like, their strategy was to, like, make it look like he was just a bad guy. Look, you should know. He's out there murkin dudes you know go watch the Marvis Fraser fight and expect to what do you think's gonna happen you get alone with that that was

essentially their strategy a lawyer strategy and that shit just didn't work Judge is like, get the fuck out of here with this. But the girl had apparently, allegedly, she had a false rape accusation already before the Tyson one. So it's her thing. So it wasn't, you know, look, man, some of these people out there in this wild world are crazy as fuck. It's tough, man. You don't know. You don't know. You never know. If Joey Diaz was Mike Tyson's lawyer, what would that sound like?

Listen, cocksucker, everybody knows you're a fucking creep. You're out there banging bitches. You're showing your giant dick to the fucking general public. You're going to plead the fifth. I'm going to fucking talk for you. Listen, Mike, you're the baddest of all time. We're going to get you out of this. The girl should have known.

She should have known. It's 3 o'clock in the morning. The fuck do you think you're here for? We're gonna read books. What are we gonna do? We're gonna hold hands. We're gonna break out the fucking Ouija board and conjure up your grandmother. Suck the dick.

I got you in a fucking hotel room. It's a limo ride. You ate lobster? You ate lobster? Did you eat lobster? Well, you suck dick. You eat lobster, you suck the dick. Guaranteed. I bite Cristal because you're my friend. Come on.

So she claimed he just straight raped her. I don't know what the exact claim was, but... It was a while ago. There was, like, I really shouldn't be even saying what the evidence was because I barely remember, but there was something similar to... she had come up to the room, she had taken off her panty shield in the bathroom, and they were saying that says that she was getting ready for sex,

which doesn't necessarily mean that. It could mean she didn't need it anymore, it was funky, she took a leak, she wanted to take it out of her vagina. That's what the garbage is for. You know? I don't know. I don't have one of those. Yeah, I don't know either, but.

But. So far, yeah. There was no, I don't think there was anything that, you know, could have, I don't think there's anything that could have been done while it was going on to make it, if you're not there, right, to make it accurate, if you're not there, if you're not the woman or you're not the man, when you're describing something that happens, when someone's alleging that someone raped you.

You're kind of fucked when you're Mike Tyson. You accuse him of rape because we're all like, yeah, I can see it, but did he do it? I don't know, man. I don't know either. And I think that whenever- The court says he did. The court said he did and they put him away.

He still says he didn't. And I think, I don't know. I don't know. The court says he did. The court said he did, and they put him away. He still says he didn't. And I think, like, I don't know. I don't know. When you find out that someone had already gotten off of a false rape accusation, that doesn't necessarily mean that they can't get raped still. You know what I mean? True, but it means bitches be crazy.

But it would be like a crazy cry wolf, right? Bitches do be crazy, but who knows what the original circumstance was. I know. And she was really young at the time, too. She's super hot, too. She's super hot. So you never know. Maybe she was dating some other animal or something. Who knows?

But I tell you, you're guilty right away, especially in the public. If you're an athlete, big dude, scary dude, you're guilty right away. How about the scariest boxer of all time? I mean, Mike Tyson in his prime was the scariest boxer of all time. Hands down. No one came close. When he would go in there with that towel cut off, no fucking socks on. I was scared at home.

Jesus Christ, he was a monster. But anyway, who knows what the fuck happened. That was my point. But anyway, when he got out of jail, pull up that picture, Jamie. Did you get that picture? I was close. You were close? Well. He's so picture, Jamie. Did you get that picture? I was close. You were close? Well.

He's so shredded, dude. Bro, that motherfucker Fedor's on some shit right now. You seen him? How dare you? I'm not saying he's on some shit. I'm saying he's on that prison workout program, bro. Oh, is that what he's on? Yeah, he's jacked.

He's getting three square meals a day. Oh, hell no. Look at that. Jesus Christ. Oh, hell no. Oh, my God. Pull up. Go full screen with that picture. Oh, hell no. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. Go full screen with that picture.

Oh, my God. Why does it say Tyson got prison officer pregnant? Damn straight he did. Look at that fucking monster. Did he? He did? I don't know. That could be some bullshit. Go to that visit page, please.

Let's find out if that visit page. No, what am I, TMZ? I don't even want to read that. Of course he did. Go back to the photo. Fuck, I don't want to hear this story. I don't even want to read that. Of course he did. Go back to the photo. Fuck, I don't want to hear this story. I don't even want to. I want to give it the time of day.

I want to admire his body. Damn, he fucked a prison guard. Of course he did. The animal. That's always in rap videos. Like, that was Tupac, right? Wow. Wasn't that one of Tupac?

When I get free. Yeah, dog. Remember he was talking about the girl, the prison lady? The two guys who escaped the prison earlier he was talking about the girl the prison lady Two guys who escaped the prison earlier this year. They were fucking the prison guard. Yeah, you can't have girls now You got a honeydick him in to give me keys to get out body on Tyson Jesus Christ If he could mean we mean that that I mean is that the optimum look though when you're fighting For him it was. For that fight.

Kevin McNeely was like out of his league. You know the Japanese anime where there's like girls that are cops and detectives going after criminals and the criminals always fuck them? You ever see that? Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, that's like the theme of it. They're always going after them and they almost catch them. They catch them,

he seduces her, he fucks her and he escapes and she's constantly trying to... Well, you know that's gotta happen, right? Female cops and, like, super gangster dudes who have tons of money and big dicks. You think this happens in real life? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, especially... All those cartoons are based on...

inspired by real events. A situation where, like, the girl has to go undercover... And then, you know, watch this undercover, she falls in love, starts getting dicked. So I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. The guy tries, you know, watches undercover, she falls in love, starts getting dicked. So I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. The guy tries, you know, she tries to pull the card at the end and arrest him, but she can't do it.

The end of the episode is the same. She almost has him, and then he just fucking talks her into sucking his dick. What is up with those weird Japanese anime ones where they have octopuses? They all have like octopuses. They're getting fucked by like multiple armed animals. Hold up. This is a cartoon? This is a cartoon?

This is real life. No, anime. You know what I'm talking about, right? Yeah, but I don't know why. What is that about? They fuck octopus? Yeah, is it just tentacles? Is it tentacle porn?

Is that what they call it? Yeah, I'll pull something up so you can see. They love sushi men. That's funny, because I'm just, for the last couple days I've been really into going on YouTube and just watching intelligent octopus documentaries where they test their intelligence.

Do you know that off the coast of Washington, they have a problem with, there's certain areas that they have a problem with in the water where octopus attack you, and they got it on film, like attacking these divers and shit. I love octopus, man. Have you heard of this? Well, they're predatory. Have you ever seen the video of them eating sharks? No.

Damn, like a giant squid or something? Pull up the video of octopus kills a shark, because there was a problem that they had with this aquarium, where these sharks were dying and they thought that like someone was stealing the sharks or they thought that maybe like one of the other sharks was killing the sharks. They couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on.

So they set up a camera and in the hidden camera they found out that octopuses are gangster as fuck. Fuck yeah, they're so smart, it's incredible. They hide in these rocks and they pretend to be the color of the rock. They could change their color to look like their background, like they camouflage themselves. And while this shark is swimming by, the octopus just fucking explodes out and grabs him and eats him alive. That's one of those bullshit sharks though. Well, it's a small shark, but it's just, when you put

these motherfuckers in captivity, the sharks don't give a shit. As long as they have food, they're kind of dumb. But octopuses are not dumb. Octopuses are smart as fuck. I love a good octopus. Octopi. Yeah, I love them. I think you're supposed to say octopi. Might be one of my favorite animals. Does it actually capture on film? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's awesome.

He's about to murk this fucking sissy shark. I think I've seen this, but the footage ain't that good it's not bad dude once they knew that the octopus was doing this they set up all sorts of cameras you see how they edit this they edited it i bet i mean this is that was probably taken three weeks we gotta edit it well i think both both scenes are probably you know what i mean like all this other stuff like all this stuff this is like we gotta build a story. Eddie Bravo knows a little bit too much

about the business. You know a little too much about the business. Anytime I watch a Discovery Channel, I'm like, how do they get the cameras all over this fucking...

They're weaving a story? How many cameras do... How do they get the camera in the water like that? Eddie Bravo can't watch a fucking superhero movie. It's like, come on. You know he's gonna win.

He always wins. Like, why would you watch it if you know what's going to happen at the end? Why would you watch it? Do you think he's going to lose? Did you think he was going to die? At the end, it was over. Were you shocked? Were you surprised?

Like, whoa, the good guy won. The good guy always wins. I want the bad guy to win. Why can't the bad guy win? I want the bad guy to win once. I like Narcos, all right? That's what I want to watch. Here it goes.

Watch, watch, watch. This is it. Bitch, come here. Oh, got his ass. Little bitch-ass shark. Oh, shit. Yeah. And is it. Bitch, come here. Oh, got his ass. Little bitch ass shark. Oh, shit. Yeah. And he just squeezes the life out of him?

Jacked him. Well, their tentacles, man. That's great footage. Their tentacles are not just strong as fuck, but the suction cups have prongs. They reach out and cling and rip things apart. Like, it's not as simple as, like, those are just, like, soft suctions. Holy shit. That's great footage. Don't they have a hook, Joe? It's not as simple as those are just soft suctions. Holy shit. That's great footage.

Don't they have a hook, Joe? It's amazing footage. Don't they have a hook in their mouth? Yeah, and if they lose a leg, their leg just grows right back. They're so gangster. And they have eyeballs that are really effective, but they're so different than ours. It's like a completely different branch of the evolutionary chain. Yeah. Ain't that a bitch if you're a shark? Yeah, what's crazy is when they're born,

from day one, they're on their own. So that's why they're so skittish and they hide all the time. But if you raise octopus in an environment where they don't have anything to fear, they go right up to you. And there's these octopus in this cove. I'm watching all these documentaries.

There's this octopus in this cove... You're a little too inocuous, though....where they're not afraid at all. You go into the water, they come right up to you. And there's these octopus in this cove. I'm watching all these documentaries. There's this octopus in this cove where they're not afraid at all. You go into the wild, they come right up to you and look you right in the fucking eye. They go right up to you and swim around and check you out. They're not scared of shit. But in the wild, since day one, they're by themselves. Their mothers don't raise them.

They're just skittish and they're just hiding and shit all the time. Well, I think when they come in contact with people, too, if they have any sort of means of communication, they would let them know that people are dangerous. Like if they are really smart. Yeah. I don't know how smart octopus are. Crazy smart. I know, right?

Yeah. I don't know how much information they can transfer to each other. There's all these videos of them doing. They learn really, really quick. Like they'll take an octopus, a wild octopus, they put it in an aquarium, and then they put a crab in some glass container where they could see the crab

and they can't figure out how the fuck to get the crab. But then in the next container, they have an octopus that knows exactly how to get him. So the fucking octopus is watching the other one open shit up and he's right there in the octopus like All excited going going like this bro. Oh shit No, I do it so then they give them they give they give them another fucking crab in this glass container and that octopuses quick

Can you look up octopus attacks human? They got an octopus on a diver's head. I'm going to take a picture of you with that shirt. On a diver's head. Octopus attacks human. I'm not worried about a fucking octopus. Dude, that's way scarier than a shark. I get it.

I get it. I'd rip the fucking octopus. Dude, I would rather be in the water with a shark than a killer octopus. A killer octopus? You're in too deep into this octopus. How big would the octopus be before you start freaking out? We're talking about a giant squid?

Like Moby Dick squid? You'd have to start getting nervous at a certain weight. But here's the thing. 200 pound octopus, I'm out. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Fuck that, dude. Especially in the water, it wouldn't even take that much. It wouldn't even take a 70 pound octopus. I'm talking about like the thing. 200-pound octopus, I'm out. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Fuck that, dude. Especially in the water, it wouldn't even take that much. It wouldn't even take a 70-pound octopus.

I'm talking about like that thing. I'm talking about like... Look at what you're saying. He's on his head. In the water. He's on his head. Look. If you're in the water, okay, a really big one, like a 50, 60-pounder could kill you.

It's real possible. I guess he could drag me under. He's stuck. They could drag you and they could bite your tank. They could bite your neck. Bite my tank? They have beaks, dude. I guess he could drag me under. He's stuck. They could drag you and they could bite your tank. They could bite your neck. Bite my tank? They have beaks, dude. I mean, they can tear flesh apart.

Are you watching this? They're not fast. You're right. They're not fast. But if you got caught up in one of these in a tangle in the water, how are you going to swim? How are you going to swim away? What if it cuts your cable?

If it's that smart and it cuts your scuba cable,'re a dead man for sure unless you can get to a knife He's taking off his mask jumped on his mask Dude I'm telling you look at this Jack look at yank it off. Yeah, but he's got to be careful right? Oh my god. That's a big yes I'm not talking about one of these Moby Dick squid Do this isn't have a problem in Washington off the coast Octopus that attack. How many people die a year from octopus? Look at this. Look at the beak. See?

See the fucking beak? I'm not worried about octopus, bro. That's a bad B movie, right? Like a bunch of 20-year-olds go camping off the coast of Washington. Jamie, rewind that because it's like that thing from the alien, from the movie Alien. Look at the tongue that comes out. Look at this. Meanwhile, homeboy's on the screen crying his eyes out.

Dude, they might be aliens. Or they might live in the ocean. I'm going to go with Joe on this one. They're right there. Here they are. Look at this poor diver. They're animals from another planet. Yeah, this guy's getting

jacked. I think it was just trying to test him. But, you know, they found these fossil remains of what they think was an enormous one. The problem is when these things die, we don't know how big they used to be. You know, we know like Megalodon existed, but we know that basically because of his jaw. We don't know how big their beaks were. And there's times they can't find their bodies because their bodies deteriorate. but they have fossilized remains of enormous suction cups in like an octopus's tentacle formation that they think indicates that those mysteries of the Kraken, where they would talk about this enormous fucking octopus that could take down a ship and sailors would see them at sea and be terrified of them. That's some scary shit.

That's some scary shit could have been bullshit But they have these fossilized versions now of those tentacles of suction cups that are making scientists reconsider And they think there might have been an enormous one like they never even saw that giant squid until like a few years ago I'm just saying the octopus now not scared Dude dudes are gonna train octopus to jerk them off watch. That's the future No, man Little pokers in those tentacles. You got to clip them. Clip the pokers.

Clip the pokers like a cat. Like, you know, you give your cat. What do you do to the gerbil when you put it in your butt? You tape him up. You break his jaw, right? No, they don't do that. No, you pull his teeth out. Yeah, right?

You guys have the wrong Richard Gere manual. Come on. You break their jaw, right? No, you shave them down. No, no, you just pull the teeth out. You put them in a giant condom, like a bicycle ear tube. For real? Oh, that's...

No, they'll get a break. That's bad, bro. Dude, go raw dog on them. They go raw gerbil on them. Wait, but if you want to do it safe... Go raw. If you want to do it safe... You got to break their jaw.

...you wrap them up in a bike hose. Dude, I would never do it without breaking their jaw. Just put it inside you. A nice hammer fist. You just hold their head down and go, just one little. And that's it. So Josh Barnett versus Roy Nelson is the main event here. And this is interesting watching Josh Barnett back in the fucking Pride days.

He hasn't fought in a while. No, he hasn't. He hasn't fought since Travis Brown, correct? Correct. But he's been doing Metamorris, but that's a different animal. He's been killing in a while. No, he hasn't. He hasn't fought since Travis Brown, correct? Correct. But he's been doing Metamorris, but that's a different animal. He's been killing it at grappling. Submit Huron Gracie. That is not easy.

Yeah, he's a beast, dude. Submit a Dean Lister, too, who's even bigger than Huron. Dean Leister. There you go. Leister. Leister. Leister. Not like Leister Bowling.

He was one of the first guys to submit Dean in like fucking 15 or 16 years. Like forever. How long has it been, Eddie? In competition? I think. I think the first time ever, right? In competition. I don't know if it was ever.

I thought. I mean, maybe it was like as a black belt ever, but whatever it was, it was super impressive. Eddie, are we betting on this main event and co-main event? What? We're betting on the main event. Not the co-main event? I got Barnett. A thousand on Barnett? 1,000 on Barnett?

See, I think Barnett's going to win, but I'll bet you for the sake of it. You guys don't think that Roy Nelson can pull it off? I think he can. Can he make his way out of there? I think Josh is too experienced to eat that one. I think guys have figured out Roy, right? And it shows because he's won one of his last four fights. He's won him four of his last five, I think.

Yeah, I don't know, man. I think Roy. Granted, he's been fighting tough, tough guys, I can always turn the lights out on you man But when you're fighting a bet like Josh Barnett, man, they go. All right. You got a huge right hand cool We're gonna we're gonna minimize that I'm gonna get you into the cage and really, you know We talked about Roy being a black belt, which he is don't you wrong under Henzo Gracie, but Josh Barnett's a motherfucker He's gonna get you down. He's gonna get you down. He's gonna get you down.

He's certainly a motherfucker. And if you remember Frank Mir versus Roy Nelson, remember Frank coming against Cage, was taking him down, kind of whooping his ass? So when I see that, I think Barnett's looking at that footage going, all right, we're gonna get him against Cage, we're gonna get him down and do work.

Yeah, I don't know about that fight. Because how impressive was Josh against Frank Mir? Super impressive. I mean, he against Frank Mir? Super impressive. I mean, he made Frank Mir look like it was towards the end of his career, and then Frank Mir after that went on this big comeback, right? He took time off, though. Yeah, but when you looked at that fight, that's a big part of it, right? The time off is a big part of it.

That's a really important point, actually. I think Josh Barnett is super crafty, man. He knows so much. He's such a veteran, bro much he's such a veteran bro he's such a veteran but we look at him in the ufc especially this comeback he's one and one right he beat mayor which at the time it wasn't like the mayor now but he smashed him smashed and he did it in a pretty ruthless way charged his ass hit him with that knee yeah well he also then he got then he got murked by travis brown he did and then he took a bunch of time off. He got Travis Browned. That one technique that Travis used on Gonzaga and he used on Elbow.

Yeah. Elbow with that wide spread that he has. That's all we trained. That's all we trained. And his fucking takedown defense is so nasty. He's so wide. He's so fucking tall. That Elbow comes fast, too.

I just think Barnett with Roy, I think Stipe was the first one to be like, alright, let's just avoid this right hand and go to work. And Josh is such a smarter fighter than all these other guys. Well, I think it's super interesting, but we're also assuming that Roy hasn't figured out that he needs to make some adjustments. It's too late, brother.

I don't know about that. Really? I don't know about that. I disagree. See, what I know about Roy is he got good at jiu-jitsu enough to be a black belt, enough to be a highly considered black belt, beat Frank Mir in that grappling competition. Like, to get that good at grappling, you have to be able to solve problems. So if he is really good at this one thing that he already knows, he's really good at knocking people out. You're talking about a young guy when he competed and all that.

Yeah, but don't you think that he's just as hungry now as probably he's ever been before? I never see that guy looking like he's lost his enthusiasm for things. He's always been trying to fight the best guys in the world. I mean, and he's had some spectacular results against high-level guys. Like, look at the Czech-Congo fight. When he knocked out Czech-Congo, Czech-Congo was pretty highly regarded, right?

Has Czech-Congo ever been highly regarded? Yeah, after the Cain-Velasquez fight, especially. God damn, that was a while ago. It was. And he still lost that fight. And then he knocked out Pat Berry. That Pat Berry fight showed he can come back.

That was a long time ago and he still lost that fight. You gotta stop doing that to me, man. Bro! Stop making that face. Listen, man, Pat Berry had him on Queer Street. He gave him his mailbox. 100%. Gave him the keys to his apartment.

And Pat, you know I love you. You know I love you. But Pat Barry's not a world-class guy. But at that time, Pat Barry had never been knocked out before. And Chet Congo knocked him out with one punch. That's a fact. That is a fact. Chet, Pat had not been knocked out before.

And that sort of started like a series of bad losses that Pat had. He fought tougher guys. Pat is a wild dude. Easy, Brandon. He came hard and strong and had him hurt bad. For sure. That was an amazing fight. One of the best that Pat had. He fought tougher guys. Pat is a wild dude. And he came hard and strong and had him hurt bad. For sure. That was an amazing fight. One of the best of all time.

And then Congo came back and knocked him out. So I think Congo's pretty highly regarded, in my opinion. In the UFC. And then after that, Roy knocking him out. I'm pretty sure that's the way it happened. I'm pretty sure Roy knocked him out after he had the war with Pat Bear. That's correct. That's correct.

I just think that Roy has some stupid power. And you never know with a guy like that, man. When a guy has that kind of stupid power, if Roy hits you, if you fuck up, if you zig when you should have zagged. It's over. The dude can shut it off. But when you get to a certain level and you only have one thing. I'm not saying Roy only has one thing. When you get to a certain level and you only have one thing,

I'm not saying Roy only has one thing, but if your right hand's a motherfucker and you get to a certain level, these pros pros go, okay, not getting caught with that. And it's shown because he's one in four in his last five. I think, you know, it's cute, too, that he has that look, you know, with the big belly and he rubs his belly and he gets on top of the octagon. But I think the reality is he would move better and fight better if he didn't have that. A hundred percent. It's amazing how far he's gotten with all that extra body fat.

It's amazing. Oh, he's world class. He can make 155. That's a stretch. That's a bucket. First of all, how dare you? How dare you, sir? How dare you?

How is that a cover of the UG right now? Come on. Fucking front page. Eddie Bravo says Roy Nelson could make 155. If he got his diet together? No. Come on. He'd be a legit 205-er. A legit 205. If he got his diet together? No. Come on. He'd be a legit 205-er.

A legit 205. He's a thick dude, man. But, I mean, look, maybe he could skinny the fuck out of himself and make 185, but if he did, he would probably be in hell. 205. 205 is reasonable. Okay, but if he weighs, what does he weigh, 250? What do you think he weighs?

Yeah, 255, 250. How many pounds overweight do you think he is? If you look at that big, giant belly. Probably 150. No, I don't know. How much is that overweight? I mean, like, how much is that percentage? Joe Riggs used to be 300 pounds, and he fought at 300 pounds,

and then he got down to 170. Yeah, but Joe Riggs was a different thing. Roy Nelson's not that tall. I think when he first started losing weight, Joe was really obese. I think it was a different kind of leg obese, arm obese. Like, Roy's successful. Yeah. You know, he's successful.

Well, it's weird because he's only got it in the belly. Like, his arms aren't fat. His arms are like a stocky guy arms. Are they? They're not like his belly. His belly's this giant belly. And his legs are normal size. He's not like muscular.

He doesn't have the definition of shoulders. Well, look at Mark Hunt. His arms are like my gallons. Mark Hunt carries his body fat all over the place. He's got his body fat in his arms. He's got it in his legs. But Roy has it mostly in his belly. He has it all in his belly.

I'm not a nutritional expert, so I could throw some bro science in your way. I'll take some bro science like a motherfucker. I don't, we have to fucking, someone called Dolce immediately. We need to find out. I don't know what, what makes a guy's gut stick out more? Like, when you see a guy and he has a giant belly, but everything else seems sort of normal size. Like, what is it? Is that a diet thing?

Is that a genetic thing? Is it just his genetics where all the fat goes to the stomach? There's so many guys with giant bellies, but their legs are kind of normal. Yeah. It's like a girl though, because sometimes girls eat and they just have these fat asses, bro. So it goes all over their asses. And then their arms are skinny. For Roy, it's in the stomach.

I used to work with this guy, and he was a construction guy, and he had the weirdest body of all time. His legs were normal sized, his arms were were normal size his face was barely fat and then his chest was fairly normal and then he had this crazy fucking belly that didn't make any sense just you would just look at his belly and go what in the fuck but then i thought about it one day i was like all that guy would have to do is get rid of that part of his body and he's like a guy who plays softball on a regular basis hitting the gym taking a spin class he looks like a normal guy it's a big if though sometimes it's uh sometimes it's a kind of uh uh hormone issue right like his hormones are so i don't know i don't know

we're guessing this is straight bro science science when you know nelson's a that could be a show just bro bro science just a a bunch of dudes talking about science. Just straight bullshit. Very vague. Dude, I saw this documentary, bro. Oh, shit. It's a hormone thing. I don't fucking know. Sometimes it's good to not have Google nearby.

True. Just to have dudes. It's funner. It's way funner. It brings us back to the old days. As long as no one likes to pretend, they don't like to pretend that they know what the fuck they're talking about. Because that bro science goes down the chain you know because that whatever you tell me that i tell someone exactly yeah i mean how many times i've said that so many times i heard

you know what i'm pretty sure that's why i always do that i'm pretty sure it's a weird thing though man like people's people's diets you know I've been paying attention to my sugar intake lately over the last few weeks. They say that's key, right? But I'm shocked at how much sugar is in things that I didn't know. Do you know that low-fat milk, for the most part, has sugar in it? Eight grams, son. They put sugar in low-fat milk because otherwise it's just nothing. Milk has a ton of sugar. And by the way, low-fat sugar, or low-fat milk rather, don't drink it. It has nutritional value none because all the thing like vitamin D

Vitamin K vitamin E they all have to bond to fats So like the there's no fats in the milk, so it's like you're just drinking water. I don't fuck like nonsense I like milk. I like almond milk. Yeah almond milk and rice milk almond milk again Same thing though if you read the ingredients that shit is all sugar. Ah son. You can get zero sugar Same thing though if you read the ingredients that shit is all sugar ah son you can get zero sugar Unsweetened sweet and sweet delicious Sugar most of the stuff you get though has the like the Trainers if you get like do have on sweetened now Duncan trussell called me up. He's like dude fucking I found the best almond milk It's so amazing taste so good. It's good for you

How does it taste good? He goes, it's delicious. I go, ooh, did you check to see how much sugar's in it? And so we did it on the phone, and it was just some stupid amount. And it was from like a little baby glass that you know you're not going to have. You know you're going to have a big glass. I know if something tastes good, it has sugar in it. That's my biggest problem. That's my sugar by five.

We're sweet tooth, man. Sometimes I wonder why I work out so hard so I can eat like shit. Do you want some mangoes with chili on them right now? I'm never mad at that Jamie Where are those like fresh mangoes? No, no, no like dried mangoes. This is my problem lately I have I have an issue mango sticky rice, baby. I have an issue I'm avoiding sugar and that my number one issue is these fucking Trader Joe's mangoes with chili on them They have I know it's got sugar in it I don't even want to read the label. I'm addicted to sugar bro. These things right here, dude

Do you like those Eddie? Oh you get any one of those two please. Well cuz I'm Mexican yes, yeah This shit is delicious who makes this one. No, I'm strong next I know it's got sugar into it What does it say on the back? It's almost like it's so good, it's like, let's figure out what it doesn't have and then put that free. You know, cholesterol free. Does it have cholesterol? Okay, cholesterol free. Well, yeah.

Of course there's no cholesterol in it. That's silly. No lead. It's so funny that it says- Lead free. No nuclear energy. Non-mercury. That's hilarious. No mangoes have mercury. No-mercury. That's hilarious.

No mangoes have mercury. No mangoes have cholesterol. What are you using, butter to make your mangoes? Cholesterol-free. That's so stupid. It's gluten-free. It better be. Shit.

If it's made out of bread, then it's not really a mango, you fuck. Eddie Bravo opening it up. Chico Camus, Horigiguchi Horiguchi's first fight since he lost to mighty mouse could be very interesting Horiguchi's fast as too and Chico Caymus is pretty slick I thought Chico Caymus look real good in his uh how much sugar intake the first ingredient is mango second ingredient sugar sugar fuckers they didn't even try and hide it by saying hi Toast corn sir

Say fuck it. Just let him have it. I wonder if one's better for you Haraguchi dude Haraguchi's fighting Chico Caymus. I forgot about this fight. This is a good-ass fight I thought Chico Caymus look really good against your boy Henry Cejudo. That was a great fight How bad was it? How bad is who does a great fight. How bad is Cejudo? Cejudo is a bad motherfucker. How bad are artificial sweeteners when soda companies advertise we use real sugar? How bad is aspartame?

Jesus Christ. At this point in time, that's all people want, man. I'm addicted to it, bro. I'm addicted to it. You want real sugar. Yeah, people want real sugar now, man. They feel like it's too risky to get involved with aspartame. All of it's bad for you, dude.

The reality is, like, you're only supposed to get sugar from actual foods. Like, sugar from fruits, sugar from apples, you know, sugar from things that taste sweet. That's how you're supposed to get your sugar. Like, this creepy way that we've got of, of like sucking all the sugar out and stockpiling it and then injecting it directly into our bloodstream in the form of candy. Like that is, that's a drug. Oh, it's beautiful. And it's completely alien to our system.

I feel great though. But you know who needs it apparently is those super triathletes and marathon runners and shit. They need sugar, dude. They say people who are real explosive need it for the like to be explosive well who's that guy that was only a body type who's the guy that was fighting MMA the giant a fought Tim Sylvia Tim Sylvia beat the fucking shit out of him he was a strongest man Oh strongest man. No, no, no. Ray Mercer. No, no. Hold, hold, hold. Fuck.

Starts with a P. I can't remember his name. He's from Poland, right? He's from Poland. He fought... Pudzianowski. Pudzianowski. Thank you very much.

Real meathead. Yeah, he's the biggest of big. He's a giant dude. Ten-time world's strongest man contest. Yeah, super powerful dude. And he eats a lot of candy, apparently. He eats chocolate, right? Yeah, a big part of his training.

But I guess he's just blowing his sugar levels out of his muscles so much. When you're on so much steroids, it doesn't fucking matter. Do you remember that real buff guy that was the mascot for King of the Cage? You remember King of the Cage? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy who was a huge bodybuilder. So they would use him for in-between shots of fights. Why don't you explain how crazy that was?

So I was there. What he was. So I was there when he had a photo shoot, because I had to do a photo thing, because I was a commentator. So they were going to knock out a bunch of photo shoots. And he's sitting there in the waiting room with a gigantic bag of Skittles. And he's killing Skittles. And he said,

you got to get the biggest pump. You need sugar running through your veins to get the biggest pump. Wow. Sugar. I don't know. He was eating Skittles right before this photo shoot. Sugar makes the world go round, man. These dudes that lift that much weight, I think they just blow their sugar out of their body.

I think their requirements are just so high. But how crazy was that King of the Cage thing? Because the whole thing was they had these MMA fights, and then they had this guy that was supposed to be the king of the cage. And the guy who was supposed to be the king of the cage was just an actor or a bodybuilder. He did jujitsu. But he wasn't fighting. No.

He wasn't the king. It wasn't like he was the guy that was at the top of the heap. He was the guy that locked the cage before the fight. Yeah, but it wasn't his organization. He was just a guy that Terry and Bud hired. This guy's awesome. The whole thing was very strange. What it was is Boz Rutten owned, he was part owner, right, in the first one.

So the logo was like Boz Rutten, buff with a bald guy. So when Boz Rutten bolted from King of the Cage, they kept the logo, but then they just turned it into a real dude. That's hilarious. Bro, these things are a motherfucker.

They're so good, right? I'm going to eat this entire bag. Of course you are. I told you, this is my problem right now. Bro, I think my mom had like maple syrup

in her titties when I was young. Straight up, man. I cannot get enough of it. Oh, that's so silly. Meanwhile, this is a good fight. Chico Camus and Haraguchi.

I'm not going to lie to you guys. I haven't watched one single fight. Haraguchi's fast as fuck, man. Mighty Mouse. How do you guys remember these? I'm sitting here listening to you guys talk about fights, and I feel like I'm not a real fan. No, you're a real fan, but you're running

a hundred fucking jiu-jitsu schools. But you're 100 times more busy than I am, and so are you. Yeah, but this is my job, Eddie. That's part of our job. I mean, my job especially. I'm the commentator for the UFC. I mean, I'm supposed to be in Japan right now. There's no way.

He should know some shit. There's no way you can have all that information about all these fights and fighters and what happened in these fights in the second round of the third fucking round and all that shit unless you watch them again. Well, that's why he's the best in the world. You watch UFC twice. You watch them twice. It depends on the fight. There's some I watch. You know too much, dude.

You have no time for shit. He doesn't sleep, though. No wonder you haven't watched narcos yet. I Just remember them dude. It's a different thing when you're calling fights, especially when you're calling fights you you remember more Okay, that makes sense. Dude, you know tonight's a wilder Yes, you you watch fights twice. Are you watching all day? You wake up and I gotta watch fights. When do you watch these fights?

Come on, man. You have to have a good memory to be a comic. To do an hour-long set and to do a new hour-long set every year or so, you gotta change it up. You have to remember old shit. You have to remember new shit. You have to be able to memorize things. You have to.

You're super talented. Can I ask you something? How do you deal with your children farting? Do you laugh at the farts? Yeah, I think it's hilarious. The five-year-old has figured out it's hilarious though now. It's trouble. She won't stop farting.

So my wife gets bummed out, and I think it's hilarious, so I'm laughing. So there's no cooperation. So the five-year-old the other day, she's in bed, reading stories. She grabs the back of her knees, rolls her butt back in the air, and blasts one up in the air. You start laughing? I'm fucking howling. I think it's

hilarious. That's tough, bro. But your wife doesn't think it's funny. It's absolutely funny. But she doesn't think I should necessarily encourage it. She said, you shouldn't fart. And I'll say, hey, all right, you got to stop farting. But the problem is, in my house, like, laughter is valued very, very, very heavily. For sure, yeah. In my house, it's always laughter.

Hell yeah. We laugh about everything. And we joke around about stuff all the time. And we're always like, if something we're always like if something goes wrong, even if something goes wrong, they do something that they shouldn't do, there's always some laughter involved. For sure. So when she finds out that she can make us fucking howl laughing

by sticking her butt in the air, they just start doing stuff, man. They think it's funny. Here's the argument, Joe. Don't you want to be ladylike, though? She goes to middle school and starts ripping farts. You got the shitty girl in school. Nope. I want her to be a nice person and I want her to be however she wants to be as long as she interacts with

people in a positive way. She can't be ripping farts in school. Listen, bro. Do you rip farts in school? No. Come on. Exactly. Right? But when you're at your house and someone says, alright, well, you can't rip those farts when you're in the teacher's office, okay? That's legit. All you have to do is teach the kid when to fart and when not to fart.

That's why I think also teach them about swearing. Don't keep swearing from them. Just tell them. Notice, when Daddy talks to the guy at the Lexus dealership, notice how Daddy doesn't use the word cunt? Yeah, because cunts, you can't say cunt to the Lexus guy. You know, you've got to know when to be appropriate and when not to be appropriate. But don't, because you don't want them figuring it out through other people, you know? Why should you hide anything from your kids?

If you think that it's okay to use certain words, you should use those words in front of your kids. But you should use them when you think they're able to discern when to and when not to use them. So I don't swear. Very rarely do I accidentally fuck up and swear in front of the kids. So you try not to. Try not to. Okay. But as time goes on, I will absolutely start swearing more. Not yet, though.

When they're older. When they're too young. I let little ones in every now and then. On accident? No, on accident, but sometimes not. Sometimes not on accident. What kind of swear word are we talking here? Not bad. Like occasional fuck and every now and then a shit. That's not bad. But even the fuck, it's, but sometimes not. Sometimes not on accident. What kind of swear word are we talking here? Not bad.

Like, occasional fuck and every now and then a shit. That's not bad. But even the fuck, it's like, Jesus Christ. Have they repeated it yet? No. No, but the shit one, when the little one was three. This was hilarious, dude. We were skiing, and we put all our stuff in the bag.

We were leaving, and she forgot to pack her helmet. And I go, honey, you forgot to put your helmet in there and she goes shit my wife just bit her hand she turned away she didn't want to laugh and I went and I turned and looked away I'm like it was she didn't know how funny it was yeah to her it was like it's just a normal shit that's great but to hear a three-year-old say oh shit what's. What's weird is around my wife, she doesn't laugh. She doesn't want to encourage laughter. She's trying to teach him to be proper.

But around me, he knows he could fart, and I'll laugh. And if it's just me and him, I'll fart. He'll fart. I'll go, bah, bah, bah, bah. We're farting back and forth. We're high-fiving each other with farts. Oh, that's ridiculous. But then when mom's around, we're in the bathroom,

and then he farts, I got to hold it in, and he's looking at me, and I got to keep a straight face. He's like, don't throw me under the bus over here. And I'm like... I don't want to hear it from her, so I just like... And then she's looking at me, knowing that I'm holding it in. Oh, that's so funny. He feels so confident around me.

Like, when Daddy's around, he could just blow those... So that's a problem that we're having right now. He looks identical. That's so funny. We're having a that's so funny We're having a fart problem I mean, I think if you can hold them in it's like it's a nice thing to do It's hard enough holding my farts in it's hard enough holding my farts in around my wife I have to hold she I don't want to fart around or she doesn't want me to fart But I'm not gonna hold my farts in around my son, too

That's like having two wives. It's tough. You know what I mean? It's tough, bro. Around my son, he's going to get it. I am not holding shit in. I'm going to blow fucking ass around him. Another headline in the OG.

Eddie Bravo farts around son. Holds it around wife. I can't hold. It's hard enough around the wife. Oh, dude. Horiguchi just tag cameos. This is a great scrap, man. We're missing out on an amazing fight.

I feel like all the fights have been crazy. They haven't. We're just talking about farts. Rhinos. We're talking about octopus for a solid hour. Animals and shit. Headline. Octopus farts.

And I said before this podcast that this podcast would not be a regular podcast, but it kind of is. It's not a fight companion podcast. That's the big lie. Yeah. We're barely talking about fights. People talk shit. We don't even talk about fights.

We haven't seen each other in a while, folks. I know, man. We've got to catch up. It's fun. It's the best. Fucking hate these things. Yeah. People do get mad, but you don't have to listen.

Yeah. For the most part, it's all positive. Chico Camus looks super good in this fight, as does Horiguchi. They're both tagging each other. Look how Horiguchi's got that crazy wide stance. Hey, what time is it over there in Japan right now? Does anyone know? It's 11 a.m.

Yeah, it started early for our view and pleasure. Dude, big right hand there by Horiguchi. This is 11 a.m. now, Eddie? Something like that. So they probably start at like 9 or something? If you're on those prelims, you're waking up early. Do you adjust? You must adjust way in advance.

Dude, I saw your Instagram. You're doing jiu-jitsu at 7 in the morning. What the fuck's up with that? That's how I roll, man. What time do you wake up? He really just gets up at 7 and takes a photo and puts it up of the night before his training. We roll the night before, yeah.

It's like 7 in the morning, he before, yeah. I usually wake up early. It's like 7 in the morning, can't sleep. I usually wake up early, man. You party all night. I usually wake up early. You do jujitsu at 7 in the morning? Yeah. Jesus, you're one of those dudes.

God damn. A lot of guys like that, man. I was looking at- That's mid-sleep. Doesn't your boy down in San Diego? Boogie, yeah. Doesn't Boogie have a 6 a.m. or 6.30 a.m. class? I think he switched it up, though.

I think he finally broke down. I think he doesn't do that anymore. That's 6 a.m. jiu-jitsu. But there are people. Thank God there are people like you. I follow Boogie on Instagram. Boogie Woogie. I mean, I'm not trying to do too much shit.

I'm not trying to do too much shit at 7 a.m., but. I like that, though, man. I like to get a good workout in in the morning. Me, too. I feel good. What time do you wake up these days? Depends. If I have to take the kids to school, you know, depends.

But a lot of times, I'll take like. 10.30? I'll take like an 8 o'clock yoga class. Really? Yeah. God, I really want to start doing yoga, man. I just can't. I don't know.

I'm being lazy when it comes to yoga. I'm getting very close to being able to do jiu-jitsu again. My shoulder's not bothering me anymore. I'm going to get another MRI to get it looked at. But ever since the... Is this Deontay Wilder? Yes. Is this the highlights?

Is the fight over already? Yeah. Oh, Wilder got fucked up, dude. Who's Deontay? He had some big fucking black eyes, man. Look at his eye. Oh, shit. Boom.

Oh, my God. Wilder cracked. Oh, my God. He got cracked. Dude, crazy story. What's wrong with this guy's win? Is this a decision win? Was it a decision?

TKO. 11th round TKO. He stopped him in the 11th round? Yeah. Deontay's for real. Deontay's a fucking monster, man. I want to see that fight. He hasn't been fighting that long.

I got recorded. I'm going to see that one. I love watching him fight. Wow. He got a serious fucking black eye. I fucked up. I didn't record it, God damn it. Ooh, I don't miss some NBC boxing.

Wasn't there another fight on tonight? Isn't there another boxing match on tonight? Is there something on HBO tonight as well? I don't know. I just know this was the big one. He has a crazy story, though. He trained for like three years and that fool's on the Olympic team. It's crazy.

He's getting better, too, all the time. You know, he was, it's really interesting. He was one of the guys that was in line for Tyson Fury. Tyson Fury, they offered him this fight, and instead he took the Vladimir Klitschko fight, and Vladimir fucked his calf up. I know, postponed, right? Yeah, now he's, you know, he's shit out of luck. But Wilder's smart, you know, not taking a fight with Klitschko yet.

He's not ready for that. Well, he's just, you know, he's getting ready. And Klitschko is— Getting older. Unless he's doing drugs. You know, that's the thing. And I'm not saying that he is, but I'm not saying that he isn't. I agree.

He's 39 years old. He looks fucking great. He looks fucking amazing. And I just—I don't know. I don't know who's doing what. You can't speculate. But this is the reason for bringing it up, though, because if he is doing drugs, he can keep that high level for a much longer time. Especially at heavyweight.

Yeah. If he's not doing drugs, you've got to wonder how much time he has left. I agree. At 39 years of age, the wheels could fall off at any moment. You know how many fights? That guy has hundreds of fights. You have to think about his amateur career and his pro career. I think he's like 63 and three or some shit like that well his brother was a

competitive kickboxer and I think he was too I want to say he was just kickboxer no no no boxing his brother fought pka karate style above the waist kickboxing cheese with the crazy long pants on he must been a motherfucker yeah he was a bad motherfucker He actually got knocked out in in kickboxing and like that PK karate style I forget who he fought but he fought some guy was I feel like he got knocked out by a kick Look up Vitaly Klitschko gets ko boss dude. I love watching the Klitschko fight He was an animal man when he was at his best

I watched the Shannon Briggs fight the other day. Him and Shannon Briggs. What a war. Jesus Christ. You guys keep up with boxing and UFC? Holy fuck. Boxing's great right now. We talked about Shannon Briggs on the podcast recently.

Shannon Briggs, I went back and forth with him on Instagram now. About what? A couple times. Because he's awesome, man. Every video he does, he... Is this Klitschko Gets Knocked Out? Shannon Briggs has these motivational videos

on Instagram. You've got to follow his Instagram. Because he's always like, let's go, champ! Let's go, champ! Oh, talking shit to Vladimir, right? Not just talking shit to Vladimir, but talking positive shit like, come on, champ! You've got to put away them sodas, champ! You've got to drink water, champ! You've got to be healthy, champ! You've got to get a fight. Not just talking shit to Vladimir, but talking positive shit like, come on, champ. You got to put away them sodas, champ. You got to drink water, champ. You got to be healthy, champ.

You got to get up early, champ. Can't be staying out late partying, champ. And everything is like, let's go, champ. He's like, champ. Oh, it's great. It's hilarious. But he's funny when he does it, too. Like, he's laughing and cracking jokes.

Was he the cat trying to get the fight with Vladimir? He was like, Vladimir was on the boat. Will you eat? I eat, champ. Will you eat? I eat. He ate his food. Yeah, man. Vladimir threw some water on him. Yeah, he's trying to hype up a fight, man.

It just never happened. Well, it might happen now. It might happen now. You think? Yes, it's very possible it'll happen now because Briggs just won. He just knocked out his opponent, I want to say in the second round, but he looked real good, dude. I mean, I don't know who the dude was that he fought, but he looked real good, dude I mean, I don't know who the dude was that he fought but he looked sharp and it was impressive and

He's got a big following on social media like a lot of like Snoop Dogg made this video where he was smoking weed and Snoop was like take a big puff. Let's go champ I'm fucking with you champ. I'm out here for you champ. I'm smoking this joint for you champ. It's hilarious getting that support Well, he's he's like it's super positive like all the stuff that he does is very positive you see that snoop dog video with the little dicky you ever heard of the little dicky yeah yeah yeah no little dicky the white guy yeah the jewish rapper yeah he's great he's got that song save that money okay and then he did a song he's got a bunch of songs he's awesome he's incredible he's like the most incredible rapper ever but he did a song with snoop dog and there's a cartoon that goes along with it incredible it's called

professional rapper holy shit him and snoop dogg are going back and forth really oh he's trying to get signed he's trying to get snoop dogg to sign him and snoop's all why should i sign you and and dude it's it's one of the most brilliant rap songs ever, man. Damn. It's funny as shit. That's high praise from Eddie Bravo. Yeah, dude. I was completely floored. Little Dicky. Cut to the KO here, will you?

For the love of God. We're watching a 15-minute video of these two guys in long pants throwing shitty kicks. God damn it. Not looking good here. But the dude who's the—there it is. Wheel kick. Boom. He got wheel kicked in the mug.

See that again. Can you rewind that? Back that up again. See, the dude. That was Klitschko? Boom, yep, that was Vitaly. He got wheel kicked in the head. Back it up a little bit further than that.

He started doing contact karate? No, no, this was kickboxing. And this dude. With no ring? No, no ring, but it was above the waist kickboxing. But the dude starts getting loose with his kicks. Look at this bang That was nasty. That was nice

Whoop, I mean shit happens Yeah, well anybody who gets hit by that is fucked. I mean he's sitting his head up How long ago is that a long time ago by that video fucking 1987? It was a long time ago Good year. I think the tally is older than the date on the bottom and yeah but tali's like a couple years older yeah and vladimir is 39 so that could have been from you know 92. now there you go that makes sense people are just figuring out muay thai back then they didn't know they didn't know that that no kick into the legs is just stupid as it took a few guys going over to Thailand. It took like when Rick the Jack Rufus, who the fuck did he fight?

He fought some real high-level Thai guy. Had the guy hurt real bad. He was not really that high level. His record was like not impressive at all. The guy that Rufus fought? Yeah, he may have been famous and a legend and all that, but looking at his record, he was like 13 and 6 or something like that. Oh, really?

Yeah, that's a crazy match. It was one of the first fights that we ever got to see a guy who really knew how to throw leg kicks, though. Fucked his legs up? Yeah, he fucked his legs up. But it was interesting because... He beat him by leg kicks, and they had to put him in a stretcher,

Rick Rufus, in a stretcher because he couldn't walk. And Duke, who gets interviewed after the fight, was like, well, not a lot of skill involved in that. He just didn't know. He didn't know. It's kind of funny, because now he's like one of the best Muay Thai for MMA coaches in the country.

It's hilarious. You watch that when his brother got his legs kicked out. We didn't know then. No one knew then. When I first saw UFC 2, I was blown away by Hoyce. I was doing karate at the time, and to me, I was thinking, this is probably just primitive- karate at the time And to me I was thinking

This is probably just primitive ass wrestling That's what it looks like It looks like a real wrestler would fuck him up Yeah But then I went in and got choked out 37 times And realized Oh shit It's not primitive wrestling

It's highly advanced wrestling I had three big steps In like From going from Taekwondo Like I thought that Taekwondo was like the best way to fight stand-up until i started kickboxing and i started boxing just straight boxing with people to get better at kickboxing and then i realized man like my boxing is so far behind these guys

and i thought my hands were so much better than they were but at least i have kicks and then i started sparring with this kid um this kid named dana rosenblatt who went on to be like new england middleweight boxing champion very good boxer he fought on tuesday night fights a bunch yeah yeah you were only boxing with him yeah yeah we did some kickboxing too but we did a lot of only boxing but the point is he had a friend that was fighting in thailand he had this friend that was crazy would go over to thailand and fight fight the thais and he was just he was a real pioneer this dude was like one of the first americans to start going over there training in thailand and fighting thailand we hadn't really heard about it then and so dana

and i were going over some of the techniques and we were talking about some of it and we were talking about like the elbows and the kicks and we were practicing some of it and just him hitting me half-assed on the leg like not trying to hurt Yeah. Just him throwing a leg kick and feeling the shin slam into my leg, just like that, just thump. I remember thinking, oh, no. Like, oh, no. Like, this is all missing. I didn't know about this. Like, how did I not know about this?

Yeah. Like, this is critical. Yeah. And then the clinching and the knees to the body and then the elbows from the clinch, I was like, Jesus Christ. Like, there's a giant hole missing in all the standup. And then, you know, it never really took off because of that PKA karate shit. You know, the PKA karate kind of like spoiled people to the idea of kickboxing. I think that like Dana White said that I think he's right, man.

I think like a lot of people in this country that are like in our 40s, and we look back on that stuff on TV, if you don't study martial arts You think of kickboxing is like bad Brad Hefton like with the shiny red shorts throwing like as many they have to show like throw Like six kicks around yeah, otherwise they lose points remember that yeah So we throw these little flippy kicks, and they would get in there with some sloppy boxing So it was like flippy kicks and sloppy boxing and nobody wanted to watch it It just wasn't that good It wasn't that evolved till like Rick Rufus came, and a few guys came along that were real dynamic.

But it never really caught on. It still hasn't, right? Like kickboxing here, which I don't get. Like K-1, like Glory, or even what did Bellator put on? What was that? They put on something called Dynamite that was part kickboxing and part uh mma but here's here's what i think though man i think kickboxing's dope and i like watching it but you know what's better muay thai muay thai is better you know because it's it's the full

fucking arsenal of punching kicking elbows and knees and the clinch i watched uh the uh lion fight that was this past weekend yeah i enjoyed I enjoyed the shit out of it, dude. The first fight. Dream killer Bolanos. Did you see that fucking spinning elbow he knocked that dude out with? No. Oh, my God. There was two spinning elbow KOs. Like, dude, elbows are big, man.

It's a big weapon of Muay Thai. I don't think there's any reason to take that out. I don't think there's any reason to take elbows out. I think if organizations like Glory and those, if guys want to just kickbox, let them just kickbox. But let dudes elbow, man. Aren't they worried about the cuts? Don't you think so? I don't know what they're worried about.

Are those shows successful? On AXS TV has a limited exposure. There's not as many households that have AXS TV. I don't even think on Spike it does well, though. Glory doesn't do that well. It doesn't do as well as it probably could, for

whatever reason. People don't know who these fighters are yet. It's not something that people have been accustomed to. Get your fight kit. But watching the fucking Muay Thai on AXS TV, dude. I love it. Nasty. And this guy, Joe Nottawant, have you ever seen him? 25-year-old love it. Nasty. And this guy, Joe Nottawant, have you ever seen him? 25-year-old Thai guy?

Nasty fucking kicker dude. One of the nastiest kickers I've ever seen. The dude just throws punches to close the distance. Like his hands are up way high. Brutal left kick. Left kick to the body. Left kick to just chopping this dude down. And then once he gets close

in on him, he finishes him with actually two elbows to the back of the head jesus kind of fuck he blasts him with one elbow and then as the guy's going down he just fucking tomahawks the back of his neck i want i i record the those lion fights i watched the first one one guy was like two and one one guy i think it was pro debut and they fucking went at it have you seen yons and clive you see yons and cl clive no holy dude there's the lion fight is getting these guys from thailand that are super high level thai fighters and you're seeing some wild wild fights because of it how much of those guys on lions fight makes anyone know that's a good

does anyone know someone asked me last night and i said i don't know 500 i think the the the guy who's making his debut i I was like maybe a thousand I was trying to think back to my debut in MMA. Maybe a thousand. I get paid 800 I think it's the most underappreciated thing going on right now lion fight I really do those fucking fights are super high level entertaining super exciting super entertaining wild wild shit people getting dropped Oh my god, they're getting knocked the fuck out dude. Just figure out how to make kickboxing entertaining Well, it is a Muay Thai It's not just I think there's a part the part of the problem with kickboxing is you're able to do this

You're able to do that Alistair Overeem thing where the gloves come up real high and you just wait in and then they throw kicks And punches the kind of trade right there's some they do. And it's, look, at the highest levels, like when you're watching guys like Nikki Holskin and motherfuckers. I mean, it's fun to watch at the highest level, no doubt. But I think you should have the other elements. I think if it's a stand-up fight, those other, if you can shin a guy across the head, okay, can you shin a guy across the head?

It's legal? Okay, there's no shin pads. All right, so why can't you elbow him? Yeah, anything should go. Nothing more dangerous than that. Exactly. So what are we doing here? Are you limiting weapons? Why would you limit weapons in stand-up? If you limit weapons in stand-up, then you get an

unrealistic sense of the development of kickboxing technique. The development of MMA as far as stand-up striking. Because the guy's at the highest level. If you see a guy like a Kevin Ross or one of these super high level kickboxer guys, and you see that becomes a standard, and then that standard goes like an Artem Levin or a Joe Schilling.

You see that high standard of style of kickboxing, and that becomes the guys who are fighting in MMA aspire to that level. The higher the level is in kickboxing, the higher the level is going to be in MMA as well. But as soon as you limit certain techniques, like you say, well, they can't throw elbows and they can't throw knees, well, then you're going to get a distorted perception of it in MMA because in MMA you can do those things.

What are they saying? What's shut down? What's the reason for that? They got a reason. If a guy was right here, they would say, it's because... K-1. That's how K-1 did it.

That's how the Japanese did it. And what do they think? Everybody followed suit. What do they think? I don't know, man. They're doing it for a reason. The Japanese do shit for a reason. I think they think it's more exciting.

I think by taking away the clinch, you make guys fight more. You know, you make them, they can't clinch up as much. Because if you watch Muay Thai, a lot of it takes place in the clinch. They throw nasty elbows to the body, a lot of sweeps. They trip each other. Don't you think it's barbaric? I don't mean to cut you off. Don't you think it's because of barbaric, too, like with the elbows?

I don't know. Especially with the American. Why have it in MMA, then? Why is it in MMA? But you can snap them, right? A lot of it's not them, right? You can kick someone in the head. Everything's in MMA, stand-up-wise, that's in Muay Thai.

Everything. True. I'm thinking on the ground. Well, on the head. Everything's in MMA, stand-up-wise, that's in Muay Thai. Everything. True. I'm thinking on the ground. Well, on the ground, there's that one dumb rule. That's it. That rule's so dumb, but that's it. The one 12-6 elbow rule. That rule's ridiculous.

It doesn't make any sense. The rule, if you don't know what it is, you can't go down on the clock from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock with an elbow. I think it's too dangerous. It's only because the people that were in the athletic commission had seen a guy break a brick with that. They saw that

and they're like, you can't hit someone in the head. They could die. Yeah. No 12 to 6 elbows. So you can't even do it to a thigh, which is hilarious.

Bro, did you see that homeboy that boxer in Australia died? Who? Some, uh, God, he was, uh, God, he was,

uh, whatever, he had like 30-something fights. He died in, he got knocked out, didn't wake up, they took him to the hospital,

he died in the ring. Yeah. Doesn't that happen two or three times a year? No. It happens, I don't think so. It happens every now and then.

Yeah. This was the last one. Someone tweeted it to me. I thought they tweeted it to you too. I thought you looked at it. I might have. Um, it just happens, you know. It's a part of boxing.

It's a scary part of boxing. Bobby Raczak's got this documentary on Gerald McClellan. He did a little doc on him. That's a crazy story, man. Yeah. I saw that fight live. Not live. What happened?

On TV. Nigel Benn and Gerald McClellan After that fight, you know, Jeremy Clowness. I don't he was awesome Yeah one point time he was one of the scariest boxers alive and he was They were thinking that he would be next in line fight Roy Jones they were looking at Roy Jones and Roy Jones was coming up and after he'd beaten James Tony and Gerald McClellan was like a destroyer, just smashing everybody.

But he used to cut a lot of weight, man. He cut a lot of weight. And back in those days, I think you had to weigh in the day of the fight. I think you would, and they didn't know anything about IVs. They didn't know anything about that shit. And when you do that, you risk your brain, man. You just do. That Novitsky guy was on here, and he was saying that they think it might take more than 70 hours.

It's just 72 hours, right? 72 hours for your brain to completely recover from being dehydrated like that. And the crazy thing is most of the deaths in boxing are in the lower weight classes. They're not in the heavyweight where the guys punch the hardest. It's in the lower weight classes, and they think it's because of dehydration. They think that's a significant factor in a lot of these guys dying and hemorrhaging getting brain hemorrhages in the ring and dying they think Dehydration is a significant factor so homeboy died Well Jeremy Clown didn't die, but he he but he was a superstar. He was a superstar. He was a world champion

He was on the rise, and he hurt Nigel Ben bad knocked him through the ropes, okay? But Nigel Ben was a bad motherfucker Nigel Ben fought knocked him through the ropes, okay, but Nigel Ben was a bad motherfucker Ben fought with a afro sheen. Yeah, we had a dreadlocks He had crazy dreadlocks and Nigel Ben got back in that ring and was fucking slinging and they they clashed heads and Gerald McClellan went down and I think that was when he went to his corner and he just stopped the fight I think it was right after a head clash But I think he had when he went to his corner and he just stopped the fight. I think it was right after a head clash. But I think he had been hit a couple times.

Nigel Bennett tagged him. I mean, they were teeing off on each other. And then there was a big collision of heads. And Gerald took a knee, I think, and stayed down for the count of eight. And then I think never got up. I think sat on a stool and then collapsed. I'm pretty sure that's how it went. He didn't die, though? No.

Why the fuck would they make a documentary of this? he's almost he's blind from that yep he's blind he can't talk he barely talks barely remembers uh anything about his career um he's been taken care of by sisters his body's completely atrophied and uh it's really sad to see, man. And if you go back before that fight, he was the motherfucker. He was like one of those guys like Gennady Golovkin or something like that. I bet he sat for boxing, though, financially. No, I don't think so, man. I know. I'm obviously 100% joking.

How dare you? Yeah. Fuck, that's a bummer. I think Roy Jones has done some stuff to help, but apparently a lot of people think that that was what had fucked Roy Jones up early in his career and made him play safe. Here's Uriah Hall is about to fight Gegard Mousasi. Oh, shit.

Eddie, you got Uriah or no? No, no, I got Mousasi. All right. Mousasi, very confident. Want to bet on this one too? No, I got Mousasi. Damn, Mousasi's pressuring him real early, man. Not scared.

Jesus Christ. If he gets him down early, oh, yeah, this one's not going to last very long. He got him down real early. It's hard to keep him down. Okay. Oh, man, he hurt him, too. Tagged him with a right hand on the ground and pound. Musashi all over Uriah Hall.

Musashi's a motherfucker, man. What are the arm bars on? Oh, Jesus. Big left hand. Jesus Christ, Musashi's all over him. Super aggressive. Musashi's got some nasty ground and pound. I don't know how good Uriah Hall's guard is.

How good's his guard? You've got to have a good guard. Musashi's got a nasty ground up I don't know how good Uriah Hall's guard is How good's his guard? You gotta have a good guard Musashi's got a high level ground game, man Yeah, if there's a knock on Uriah It's his ground game Oh shit He's getting teed off on These are dangerous shots This is exactly how you fight Uriah, though

A lot of pressure Don't let him sit back Does he work on his guard a lot? Do you know? I don't know. Not from what I saw. Who's his main trainer right now? It's the guy who was training Chael, right?

Yeah, that black guy. What is his name? I forget. Racist. Look at that. See how he just... Footwork. He's about to crucifix him here and go to work with elbows.

They're going to stop at TKO. He's going to do too much for him. Oh, man. It's too much. him oh man you're right he's got a frame up with that left arm he said why don't you fly all the way to japan you know what he keeps the pressure look at that look at that the pressure can't get back pressure such a smart fighter man you look at the guys he's beat jacare hector lombard i mean hend. It's just such a list, man.

Oh, nasty, nasty elbow. Oh, man. Jesus Christ. His ground and pound is fucking ferocious, and it's intelligent, too. Mm-hmm. He does a real good job. Smart fighter, man. Oh, shit.

That was a big elbow. The amount of shots that he gets in versus attempted is very high. He's going to break your ass. He knows when he can tee off on you and when he can't. If you look at his percentage of landing ground and pound strikes, he's pretty high. Dude, look at the arm triangle. Oh, shit.

The arm triangle is coming this way. It's over, son. Does Uriah Hall know to hold on to that guard? Well, his hands caught it, and he doesn't have it. Yeah, he's fine. He's fine right now. But you know what? Back now.

Look at this crucifix. See, I did do a crucifix. I always get that left leg trapped. Oh, look at this. Uriah Hall can still explode a little Explode a little but he doesn't have the confidence try to get up. No he's gonna be worn out He's got some worst cases got half guard and double under hooks, right? Just doesn't have the seat set to get up and use it reverse

Yeah, it is the other side Hang on to that head. Isn't that funny Eddie? He would have to have his head on the Right hand side For it to be more effective On his right hand side On his Yeah On Gay Gar's left side Yeah

Tell you what That's a long ass flight Back home to the US From Japan Oh look at that Mount escape Look at that Nice

Attacks of the leg That was a very nice Mount escape And this is some good Swamp walking by Gay Gar I know you're at home Working this jiu jitsu

With Jason Manley Who's a fucking monster Leg monster Really Well that's not bad Right there Not good I know you're at home working his jiu-jitsu with Jason Manley, who's a fucking monster, leg monster. Really? Well, that's not bad right there. Not good. At least he's attempting to get out of that position. Yeah, at least he got out of the mount.

He's going for the leg again. There's hope now. He's trying to go for the leg again. He's just way, way shallow. He's working with Manley, though. He's way shallow, though. He's got to let go of that leg right now. But he's going to give up his back and going for it.

Look, he's going back to it. Oh, back in his guard again, though. But Kegar is smart. He didn't play the game right there. He just said, well, I'll just wind up in your guard again. Such a smart fighter. Yeah, and he knows how to pass professionally. Not to mention.

But that's not a good defense of the pass either by Uriah. What is he doing? But he doesn't have it. He doesn't have it. Oh, shit. Look at that. Oh, my goodness. Oh, Uri. Look at that. Oh, my goodness. Oh, Uriah turns it around.

Oh, my goodness. That was beautiful. Look at that. That's some Jason Manley shit, man. I'm telling you, that's Jason Manley stuff. You must know. Because the way he did it from having no fucking control of the legs at all, that's classic.

That's what Jason Manley teaches. But isn't that a classic defense? Yeah, Jason Manley's really good at rolling Camaras. Yes, that's his he explodes to kamara's that's the classic right the over commitment for the camorra and then there's a spinning far side arm bar counter that's so good george st pierre matt hughes right yeah yeah but he he he initiated the camorra uri hall yeah and uh thought about spinning it on him but he spun back on him.

Look at this. Look at this. Mount and then back control. 45 sec to go. Not good for you to be in this position. If you're fighting Uriah, you want to take away his explosiveness. This is doing it. It is.

Let's see how good his defense is from here. Because Gegard doesn't have the air goes. Body triangle now. Wear him out with that body triangle, son. He's got to get him down again. I mean, this round's going to be over. He's going to survive. Can he take him down again?

He took him down pretty easily. Motherfucker! It's over. He's got it. He's got it. He's got it locked in there. He's got it locked in. He's got the head.

Oh, yeah! I thought it was over. You see how he just snatched it? He never left. 13 seconds. He lulled him to sleep, and then he just snatched that thing. I don't want him to tap, man. Me neither. I want him to keep going. I want him to keep going. He got it. He got it. You He lulled him to sleep, and then he just snatched that thing. I don't want him to tap, man. Me neither.

I want this to continue. He got it. He got it. You're right. Let him break it, Joe. Woo. Oh, damn. How great is a fight when you want to see the next?

Don't tap. No, no, no. Don't tap. Come on. Keep going. But that was a pretty slick. Gay guy came out like a motherfucker. Slick rear naked, man.

Very slick. Look. Octopus. You know what is funny? That they have this commercial, this fucking monster from the swamp, the kraken or something, kills these dudes. How much different is that than an alligator? They see those bitches all the time.

Dude, alligators are stupid as fuck. It's scary when they're smart, dude. Nothing's scarier than an octopus. That's true. That's a B movie right there. Any problem. That's some scary Nightmare on Elm true. That's a B movie right there. Any problem. Fuck it. That's some scary Nightmare on Elm Street octopus movie that comes out of the water.

They can come out of the water. At night, they could stay out for 30 minutes. Dude, I saw some gnarly ass- Because it's all cool. I saw some gnarly ass crocodiles in Costa Rica, man. Yeah, I saw some too. And if it's raining, oh shit, if it's raining, that giant killer octopus could fucking track you down up the mountains.

It can hide in trees and shit. Think about that. Did you ever see the octopus that climbs out of the fish tank and goes across the floor? It happens all the goddamn time. There's a million videos on YouTube of that shit. It's incredible how many octopus videos there are on YouTube. Round two, baby. Round two.

So here's the question. The first round clear to Gegard, right? Total control. But Uriah. I mean, can it take him down again? Yeah, can it take? Total control. But Uriah. I mean, can it take him down again? Yeah, can it take him down again? I think Uriah's going to be hesitant. You know, Chael Sonnen took Anderson.

Oh! Spinning back. Oh! Fly me! Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Oh, shit, son. Don't stop it.

Don't stop it yet. No, no, don't stop it. Don't stop it, you dumb motherfucker. Don't stop it, you dumb bitch. That's Gegard. He's getting smashed. Oh, shit! You got to stop it yet. No, no, don't stop it. Don't stop it, you dumb motherfucker. Don't stop it, you dumb bitch. That's Gay Guard. He's getting smashed. Oh, shit. You got to stop it now.

Holy fuck. Dude, he landed that spinning kick. God damn, man. He landed that spinning kick. See, this is what I was saying before the fight, that this guy has moments where his movement. He got you in that discussion. His movement is so extraordinary.

You were saying the best things. You were. You were saying all the right things. Well, meanwhile, you were right in the first round. In the first round, you were perfectly right. He really did what you thought he would do in the first round. But could he do it again? That's how you fight him.

Super high level. Chael Sonnen took Anderson Silva down the first round. He was all over him. And I thought, man, can he do that for five rounds? And he couldn't. Here's the thing. I mean, could Uriah Hall have the explosiveness left in that second round after getting mauled in the first two?

Look at this. Boom! Spinning back kick to the fucking mud and flying knee. Come on, son. See, what I'm saying, man, what I'm saying about look at that movement. When you see, they're probably going to show it one more time, but look how there's no fat in that movement. The way he throws this, watch this. movement. Boom! They're probably going to show it one more time, but look how there's no fat in that movement.

The way he throws this, watch this. Look. Boom! Dude, you don't see that coming. There's no give. I agree. You can't train for that. No!

Well, you can train to never be close while he's doing something. That timing's tough. Oh, shit. His speed is so good, dude. That'll be a highlight. Both of those hits will be a highlight. Forever. Forever. Mousasi's a legend.

This is a legit stoppage, man. This is a legit stoppage. I know Mousasi would probably say it's not. He's not doing anything. You've got to give it to him, man. What a win for Uriah. Holy ball. That was spectacular.

That was amazing. See, and that's kind of what I meant. That's kind of what I meant when I'm talking about what he can do in moments. That's exactly what you meant. That's exactly what I meant. Well, if Uriah gets offseason and has confidence from this, good luck to the next guy he fights. I was side with Brendan. I'm like, Brendan's making all the valid points here.

But you were right. We were both wrong. But meanwhile, he did threaten off his back in the first round with that arm bar. So you know that he is working on his jiu-jitsu. He's 100% working on his jiu-jitsu. Because that was pretty slick, the way he set that up. And he caught Musashi off guard. With a high-level coach, too.

Jason Manley's a monster. Well, I've been around guys like that before. These guys who can pull off those wild spinning techniques like from the taekwondo days yeah and i know like what a high level looks like and his is a super high level man and he's he's just so physically sharp like he's so fast like once he gets the technique down and he obviously has it down perfect it's he can pull the trigger faster than almost anybody you're going to bring in to imitate there's really only one knock on your eye. It's always been his mental state. Right.

And that win over Mousasi is fucking enormous. Giant. Giant. And especially a stoppage win by a jump spinning back kick to the face. Especially after coming back for that first round, right? Got destroyed. Couldn't go any worse. People learn the mental game. The mental game can come from experience.

Because I remember Gary Goodridge, back when he first started fighting, he tapped his first loss or his second loss, he would tap really quick. Just from the stinging of the punches on the ground, people would tap to the stinging. But then by the end of his career, he was kickboxing K-1, taking full-blown shots.

And he learned to survive and take those shots. Yeah. No, he did. And Gary went on to fight some serious fucking contenders in K-1. He fought some high-level guys in K-1. And in MMA, too, man. Gary fought a lot of crazy fights. Can we please see Uriah Hall and Leona Machida next or what?

Boom. Joe Silva, you're welcome. Or Uriah Hall versus Michael Bisping. How about that? Bisping has a fight against Whitaker, and then Anderson Silva wants to fight him after that. Against Whitaker? Whitaker in Australia. So wants to fight him after that. Against Whitaker? Whitaker in Australia.

So this fight takes your eye all over the top? Robert Whitaker used to fight at 170, right? I think so, yeah. Now he's going to fight at 185? In Australia. Bisping's on that card. That's interesting. Interesting, right?

Weird fight for Bisping. Who's Whitaker lost to? He got stopped by someone who's like a really good striker. What was that? Pull up Robert Whitaker's record but that's it's a it's a when bisbee can tell me that we're on set and he told me that went that's an interesting fight for you big big big big big win for uriah hall doesn't get much bigger than that number six in the world you gotta put your eye in the top ten makes joe rogan look like he knows what the fuck he's talking about. Oh, shit.

Whitaker lost to Thompson. Steven Thompson, that's the guy. Wonder Boy. Wonder Boy. He's another one. When he got more and more comfortable with takedown defense and grappling, and he's spending so much time with Weidman working on his wrestling, then you got to see it in the Ellenberger fight. You got to see what a motherfucker he is.

Because they're not worried if the fight goes down there anymore. Exactly. They're like, ah, if it does go down, then I'm alright. Well, they know that they can defend, and they also know when they are standing, you can't fuck with Wonderboy, dude. You gotta... No one can. It's also a different style, because, like, just like Uriah Hall, Uriah Hall has more of a karate style than he does a Thai style. Like when he throws leg kicks and stuff, when he throws round kicks,

he throws them without the windup so they land quicker. There's not as much – like a lot of the Thai guys, they're doing these steps and everything is coming round. They're chopping, but everything is coming round. Uriah's throwing shit. If you don't train with a guy like that, you don't know those movements. You don't know, oh, if I'm standing this close to him, he can jump spinning back, kick me in the face quicker than I can get away from him. It's the Machida effect. When Machida first came on, guys were like, what the fuck?

He can do more, though. Machida never did this. Machida never did that. He never did that in a fight. He ate that fucking horse kick to the face. Machida would throw round kicks and knees and punches, and he did that jumping front kick to Randy. But I'm saying at the time, people haven't seen it. His movement in and out, and guys couldn't get the distance, and they're getting knocked out.

That's true. Now with Uriah, I think Gegard thought he was safe and ate a fucking heel to the face. Dude, I mean, that kind of speed from that distance and the way he does it with no windup, man. He's a crazy athlete. There's no telegraphing it. He's a great athlete, but it's also intelligent preparation. True. Because to train someone to throw those things on a trigger like that

with no windup at all, that's the ultimate goal, is to have an athlete who's a really good athlete who also listens and trains intelligently to the point where there's no windup. He just jumps and kicks. God damn, what a win. What a fucking win for him. Eddie, you could have made your money there, bro.

Was he a Tiger Schulman guy? Is that where he started? Yes. Is it? Yes, yep. Amazing. He's a second-degree black belt, right? I think so.

You know what's amazing? Tiger Schulman was like, blam, look at that. Jesus Christ. He ducked right into it. Beautiful. And then this. Nasty. I think Musashi might have thought it was a wheel kick.

Instead, he hit him with that jump spinning back kick to the face. God. Look at this. Boom. Oh, my goodness. That is insane. And then that knee, dude. Oh, my God.

I think this is how people expected your eye to fight coming off the ultimate fighter. Remember? He lost that one fight. There was a little bit of let down, and then he's just doing work now. It reminds me of Pele. Well, you know what, man? If the fucking fight went the way the first round went, you wouldn't be saying this, which is what's amazing.

You know, like, you were right and I was right. We were both right. But he figured it out. He figured it out, man. He's obviously made adjustments. Good luck whoever fights him next. Well, he's going to learn from that first round, too, that that could happen to him in the grappling. So he's going to have to concentrate on his grappling even more.

He's going to have to bring it up to another level. True, but he knows he survived. He was in some dangerous shit, man. He was. Mounted. He almost got choked. Side control. I mean, how close did he come to tap?

In triangle. Rear naked, right? Yeah, rear naked. Twice. Oh, that was close. That was close. Damn. Think about that. It makes the

victory even sweeter. It's an amazing win. How about this fight? Not this one, but DC versus Alexander. It's a very interesting fight. You wonder what Gustafson can do on the feet. Can he keep DC off of him?

Can he keep the fight standing? Does he try to take DC down the way he tried to take john down does he try to you know like to to let him know really early on hey i can take you down too does he try to do what what jones didn't take him dc down that's not happening you would say that but right you wouldn't think he would take jones down yeah took him down twice he's different though well also you got to think john took dc down the move but the the word was that john did not take the gust of some fight down either. Took him down twice. DC's different though. John took DC down. But the word was that John did not take the Gustafson fight very seriously in training. That's what I've heard.

That is the word. We're not lying about that. Whether or not that would have played a factor, whether or not Gustafson would have been able to take him down anyway, we don't know. I feel like this fight's not getting enough hype. It's getting no hype. Zero hype. I haven't heard anybody talk about it.

It's because Jon Jones is right there still. He's the elephant in the room. Will Jon be both of them? So it's like, all right, well, there you go. Eddie just nailed it. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. Zero hype.

I mean, and Jon is just so, everybody knows he's so good. He's so special. And that's also what's tragic about it, you know? What a great comeback story, though. Amazing. if he could pull it off it's amazing jesus christ look at josh barnett the triathlon runner look at the records just a ton of fights yeah josh barnett looks leaner than i've ever seen him ever it's the best in shape i've ever seen him how much did he weigh good question he still has to be 50. you think high 40s for sure he's a big boy what's the guess how much josh barnett uh if he was yeah i'm gonna say 240 245. i'll say 48 248. can we find out let's see

we'll find out here 245. what does it say we need the official way it's not the old one yeah the problem is they a lot of times uh when they like when i read these things off uh at the fights like they have a uh a tale of the tape maybe we go to the video of the way in it's got to be that but what i'm saying is is for heavyweights, the only way you hear it is if, like, Bruce Buffer's saying it correctly, 39. Because, like, sometimes on my sheet that I'll get, like, say, you know, I get a sheet from the UFC that shows a fighter's record, and I'll get the weight that they used to weigh in other fights.

Like, sometimes they'll be heavier or lighter. So it says 239? Whoa, Nelson, 269. Whoa. So he was over? Yeah, by four pounds. Oh, fuck, I forgot. Barnett Oh, my God. So he was over? Yeah, by four pounds. Oh, fuck, I forgot. Barnett was 239.

Who said 239? I said it. Powerful Jamie nailed it. Hold up. He can't be 269. Otherwise, he got penalized, right? Must have had to either give up 20% of his purse or lose the weight. Hold up, bro.

He got fatter? Maybe he lost the weight. Wouldn't be hard, right? I don't know, bro. He probably was shocked. Dude, that Uriah Hall fight, I still can't get over. That was fucking amazing. Yeah.

And it was what we're saying. He can do some shit, man, that not a lot of guys can do. Yeah, man. And I knew guys like that. I knew a lot of guys like that from my Taekwondo days. There was guys that just had this ability to explode with lightning fast spinning techniques that if you weren't ready for it,

dude, you got lit up. You got fucked up. Fucking Rothwell and Stipe are fighting real soon, right? That's a great fight. There was this kid that I used to know. His name was Larry Jones, and his legs went all the way up to his ribs. His like started here he was a tall dude he was

like six foot three maybe somewhere around then but his legs were like way longer than it's weird he looked like the monster just had like legs that were perfectly designed for kicking you and this guy when I wouldn't talk about like talented dudes like physically talented dudes who could throw kicks that no one saw coming, I used to watch this guy kick, like, the bag, and I would just be marveled. Just, like, marveled. Like, I couldn't believe what he could do with his legs. He would throw these, like, front leg side kicks that would just bend this bag in half because he was a big dude.

You know, Larry was probably, probably like 220 natural pounds six foot three lean didn't lift any weights built for kicking built for kicking like he's all of his weight i mean it might not have been even that heavy it might have been like 200 pounds now that i think about it but he wasn't a weightlifter at all like it was all just throwing kicks and running up hills and shit like that but he would he would kick the bag and you just go what the fuck man like you've never seen anything like it he would throw these spinning techniques and ever since that I was like well how come I haven't seen a guy who could move like that in MMA and then you start slowly seem like Barbosa can do it you know a few other guys can do it they can move like that with that kind of speed

and their spins Barbosa has the quickest kicks I've ever seen in my life never seen anybody quick does he have a fight scheduled? I hope so. I don't think so. I was telling Michael Jai White, you know who he is? Big, giant, karate guy. I was just telling him about Joe Rogan's turning sidekicks and all the stories and all that shit, and he's at my gym.

He's big. He's like 6'4", 240 pounds. Did karate his whole life and shit. And I'm telling him about Joe Rogan's turning sidekick, how amazing it is. And he goes, okay. And I go, let me see you throw one. So he throws one.

After all this shit I talk about Joe at Legends, where 10th Planet Headquarters used to be, he fucking throws one turning sidekick, breaks the bag, the chain, off the ceiling. He breaks it off the ceiling and lands. I'm like, oh, shit, Chris Reilly's gonna be fucking pissed. We're trying to put it back up. I'm holding the bag up.

It's like the chain totally broke off, and then we just left it on the ground as a ground-and-pound bag, but I couldn't say anything about Joe Rogan anymore. This motherfucker just broke this bag. Michael Jai White is an athlete, dude. He has clean technique, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's got clean karate technique, man. I think he hopping side kicked it, right? Turning side kick. It was a turning side kick, blew the bag off the ceiling. Yeah, well, they weren't very good at keeping those bags on the ceiling. I assume that i should point out i broke that chain too before did you yeah i broke that you did yeah

i was talking about the video with gsp and going fuck that was a different bag though remember that was a center bag and the gsp bag was a bar back to the far right a couple people broke that back but you gotta be a motherfucker to break that back. That chain was really chintzy. Oh, okay. But when he hit it, he hit it perfect. I've seen him do a lot of other stuff, too. I've seen him throw a lot of kicks.

He kicks real good. Holy shit, he's huge. He's giant. Well, he's a super athlete. When you watch Michael Jai White in movies, watch him do all that stuff in movies, that guy can do that shit for real. What's he do now? He makes a lot of TV shows and shit. He's always doing something I saw him always stay calm. Yes the craziest thing is I

Coordinated some fights for never back down to some of his fights He wanted some high-level jiu-jitsu in there and if you go to him you watch never back down to dude He's twist during and crotch ripping people. Oh, yeah If you watch Never Back Down 2, dude, he's twistering and crotch ripping people. Oh, yeah. That's right. I forgot when you guys went down there for that. It's crazy how quickly and on the spot those fights get put together because we're just on the set.

Just figuring it out. And we're like, okay, this next fight, we have a basic idea of it. We go over it like three times and we just start filming. Bro, this is the heaviest I've ever seen Roy. Yeah, he's pretty big, man. That ain't good. That's not a good sign. Could be a power gut, son. I don't know.

It might be. Maybe not, though, right? Oh, my God. If I lose this one, that's $2,000. Did you bet on Roy? Did you bet on Roy? No, no, no. I have Roy.

Oh, okay. But it seems like a sure bet, but anything can happen. There's no sure bets. There's no sure bets, but yes. When a dude punches as hard as Roy does you fucking never know man I just think Barnett's gonna close the distance drag him to the mat and do work Michael Jai white is a black belt in kill cushion the journey to zero begins now bring it You know John Wayne has done anything you have to spar like multiple people in a day

He's done those those crazy kill cushion competitions where you know I could to get your black belt Yeah, that they make you fight like fucking 10 different you talked about that on my podcast 30 guys in one day yeah they did that's real they'll make you spar like 30 guys like each guy how long a few minutes he is very it's it was he's so big so fast and so strong I'm sure there's no problem for him she'll kiss you he's a monster weird style too, because they punch full blast to the body, and then they kick full blast to the head, and they stand right in front of each other, and they don't wear any pads.

So there's a lot of kicks coming out of nowhere. Or just kick to the head, right? No, you can't punch to the head. Just kick to the head. Yeah, yeah. That's all you can. That's a weird fucking game. Well, a lot of those guys went off into kickboxing.

A lot of those guys in the early days of kickboxing, a lot of those guys were kilkishing guys that learned how to punch. Learned how to punch the face, learned how to box. But their kicks were extraordinary. They would throw kicks from real weird angles because they would stand like Rock'em Sock'em Robot style right in front

of each other sometimes and then throw those chopping... I'm pretty sure Fatosa's first style was Kylkechen. A lot of those guys would throw that Brazilian kick. That was like part of the style. Who was the Brazilian on K1 who was throwing axe kicks? That was Feitosa, right? No, it was another guy.

It was like, was it Filho? Francisco Filho? Yes. Both of them, Glaube Feitosa Filho are two high-level Brazilian guys. We haven't really seen axe kicks land in MMA yet, have we? Oh, not really. We haven't seen that. We've seen cartwheel kicks.

You know, Alan Joe Bond's throwing them. He's known for cartwheel kicks. How crazy is that? Yeah, so was, what's his name? Anthony Pettis? Dwight Anderson Silva. Fuck's name. Dwight Anderson Silva?

Brian Ebersole. They would call him that. It was his joke. Oh Anderson Silva. Fuck's sake. Dwight Anderson Silva? Brian Ebersole. They would call him that. It was his joke. Oh, yeah. That's right. That was his nickname was T-W-A-S. That's ridiculous. Ebersole.

That's awesome. T-W-A-S Ebersole. He was a silly dude. He's a dude that he just retired. He had the arrow shaved in his chest. I could see that guy having a podcast. Like a successful podcast, right? For sure.

Because Chael Sonnen, holy shit, dude. He is a murderer. Have you heard his podcast? Is it great? He crushes, dude. He smashes. It's perfect for him. He's going to be the new Jim Rome.

He's so good. Good. It's perfect for him. He just signed with World Series of Fighting, too, play by play. Good. You know, look, man. Like I can talk. Chael Sonnen is one of the, until Conor McGregor came along, I said he was the greatest shit

talker of all time. Yeah, yeah. But Conor took shit to another level. Watch The Ultimate Fighter. Oh, man. Dude, Conor is wicked with shit talking. Look at Josh Barnett lean as fuck. Trying to get that modeling contract, son.

Said, fuck this, fuck. He's been hanging out with Victor Webster too much. Hasn't he been doing a lot of movies and stuff? Movies, yeah. He's done a lot of acting, right? He's been doing some wrestling stuff in Japan, like the fake wrestling. Pro wrestling? Yeah, yeah.

Don't say fake, bro. Sorry. Have some respect. I'm so sorry. They're in Japan right now. Yeah, you're right. Josh Barnett, best catch wrestler. Damn, Roy's almost 40?

261, it says. All of a sudden, Roy Nelson's a hipster. But hey, why does it say 261? That guy is tough on that belly. Is it 269 or 261? Says one to me. He probably took a giant shit and he came in and weighed himself again and he was 261.

The YouTube video at the weigh-in is 261. Okay. You know what? Bruce Buffer, I was on his podcast. That motherfucker can host. Have you been on Bruce Buffer's podcast? I've been on Bruce and Chase. He's a natural host. I was shocked how good he was. That guy's a professional host. Have you been on Bruce Buffer's podcast? I've been on Bruce and Chaz. He's a natural host. I was shocked how good he was.

That guy's a professional host. He's really, really good. Well, think about how good he is as an announcer. No one's better. Never been a better announcer ever. The difference between ring announcer and holding down a show. Well, he has no off button. He has no off button. I've seen him at restaurants in fucking Venice.

Like, Brendan, how you you doing just getting back from my karate lesson yes bruce buffer brendan when we surfing coming back from abu dhabi uh he hooked my ass up man he fucking hooked me he's the man bruce buffer we uh man it's a long story but he got me he used all his miles to get me a business class. I had economy coming back from Sao Paulo. That's so cool, man. Yeah, he was so cool. He hooked it all up. That's so cool.

I needed like 50,000 miles or something to do that shit. Wow. It was crazy. He hooked it up. That's so cool. That's a 15-hour flight. Yeah. Sao Paulo to LA direct, business class.

That was huge. I just did it. That was huge. I just did it for the Ronda fight. I flew Rio to Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo one way. There's no one direct route from Rio? No.

There's no direct flight to Rio. You fly to Miami and then you fly to Rio. Or you fly Atlanta to Rio. But Sao Paulo is a direct flight from LA. So I just went that way. Dude, I feel like these guys have to fight each other before they retire, right? It's like two vets man It's a good fight

This is gonna be interesting Barnett's such a fucking vet So is Roy Barnett thinks you know that he just has way too many tools And he fights too smart He thinks that Roy is just too one dimensional And it's interesting like that his approach to this fight Was to get lean and to watch his diet

Whereas you know That's like counter Completely counter to how Roy behaves. It's such an interesting fight, man. Yeah. Roy isn't hiring no dietitian. There's two fucking pure fighters, two vets, man. What was Roy's last fight?

Roy's last fight was when he got knocked out by Mark Hunt. And then he fought again after that? Before that, he fought. No, he hasn't fought. Before that, he knocked out out by Mark Hunt. And then he fight again after that? Before that, he fought. No, he hasn't fought. Before that, he knocked out Noguera. And then before that, he lost. Do you remember this shit? He had a giant victory over Noguera, which was crazy huge.

In Abu Dhabi. That KO was terrifying. True. It was scary. I never want Nog to fight ever again after that. Terrifying knockout. But so then he lost to DC, Frank Mir, beat Nog, got knocked out by Mark Hunt, and now he's fighting this.

Yeah, the Mark Hunt one exposed some holes in his striking. Mark Hunt is just so slick and experienced. Oh, damn! That's what I'm saying, dude. You gotta be always careful of that shit from Roy. Come on, Big Roy. He got a thousand on his son. It's amazing that he gets that entire mullet in that little hairball.

Eddie Bravo, if you lose your $2,000 in the hole, you might have to rub his feet or something. Dude, I'm going to need my cash, son. We're going to keep it rolling. I'm going to keep it rolling. I'm going to need my cash, son. We talked about it. All right? I'm going back on that shit.

I get lucrative, son. Oh, big kick by Barnett. Yes, come on, Josh. The journey to zero begins today. Barnett looking for the guillotine. Oh, look, he's trying to take him down. Holy shit, son. Roy takes him down. Oh look he's right Have we ever seen this Roy Jones Roy Nelson taking someone down yes croak up What did that work and I'm the ultimate fighter to crucify people Roy's guys head pin up against the cage

Roy's heavy on top see man If if Josh Barnett gets tapped here, you know, how goddamn crazy that you know Roy's got his head pinned up against the cage. Roy's heavy on top. Let's see, man. Look at him grabbing the fence. If Josh Barnett gets tapped here, you know how goddamn crazy that would be? You know what? He's got the underhook on the wrong side here. Look at this. He's got the inside underhook on the... How much time does Josh spend on his back?

That's a good question. As a catch wrestler. That's a good question. He went for an armbar against Ted Williams, you know, 15 years ago. That was in 1998, son. Do you remember that shit? Yeah, it's old school, man. Dude, you remember?

I thought I had you. God damn it. Remember Ted Williams got mad? You always talk about how good the guard is, how important the guard is. Oh, dude, that was an article. Ted Williams was like, why don't you try doing the guard on me? Like, well, you're not the same size. What are you talking about?

Grappling Magazine, he had an interview and it said the guard is dead. He's the one who started the guard. The guard is dead. He started the guard is dead. He needs a row at Verdum and then re-advise that statement. For reals. I'm sure he doesn't feel that anymore. No.

Revising statements from 15 years ago. A lot of people had some ideas about what didn't work. Who the fuck thought spinning kicks worked back then? I thought head kicks would never work. Just like most people, most UFC fans, head kicks only worked in movies. And Ted Williams was right when he saw the state of the guard that was in Gladiator Combat. Yeah, everyone sucked at it. Or King of the Cage.

You weren't seeing the best of the best. You'd have to be almost at the jiu-jitsu competitions or in the labs watching guys train. Dude, back then, king of the cage 2000 why are they standing up it was rare to see a guard pass people didn't even know that's shit why are they standing that's pure shit what is that oh josh brandon keeps throwing that left kick they want action brendan action dude it's bullshit josh is pushing him here. Boom. Knees. Nasty. Nasty knees. Oh. Dude, you can't come straight in like that against fucking Roy. Come on, Josh. Come on, Josh.

Oh, Jesus. Jesus Christ. This is a cracker. Josh is going to get in trouble with this right hand. Boom. Come on, Josh. Oh, nice uppercut. I think that fucked Roy up.

Oh, my goodness. Look at Roy's face. Roy's got a tremendous chin. Has he ever been knocked out? Mark Hunt, son. Yeah. Walked away KO. Josh Barnett is like really pouring it on.

He's showing some excellent cardio here. He has to. He's down this round. That might have been his plan, though, in this fight, to come in so lean, just really pour the pace on him. That makes sense if you want to make a run for it. Nice kick to the body. Great body kick.

Damn. Oh, my goodness. That hurt. Oh, elbow. God damn. Look at Josh. Come on. Well, think about Josh.

Bring it to zero. Bring it to zero, baby. Look at that sneaky uppercut Barnett's been throwing, elbow. Elbow. God damn. Look at Josh. Come on. Well, think about Josh. Bring it to zero. Bring it to zero, baby. Look at that sneaky uppercut Barnett's been throwing, too. Josh is looking for that arm drag. If you're Josh, you want to make a run at the title, you got to have cardio, man. Mm-hmm. Oh. Boom.

Big knee. Well, you know what, man? A loss like that Travis Brown fight, this guy's a warrior. You know, that lights a fire under a motherfucker. Yeah, they said he was fucking pissed. Of course. He was pissed when he came on my podcast. He was talking about it.

He's mad about it? Yeah, well, that Travis had done the thumb across the neck thing, his thing. He thought that was super disrespectful. And he said he wasn't up for that fight. I've heard all sorts of stories about Barnett's camp, that fight. We have a mutual training partner, and he said Barnett's camp was pure shit. So he's super upset about that fight. Oh, man, you know. When a guy's been fighting for that long,

when a guy's been fighting for that long, it's probably hard to get up like that for every camp. Holy shit! Bro, he takes him down again! What? He's winning this round! Has Roy evolved? He's evolving into a good jiu-jitsu. But he never, you would never know. He never tried easy. Look at this, Barnett trying for that straight armjitsu. But he never, you would never know. He never tried to use it.

Look at this Barnett trying for that straight arm bar from his back. Dude, you can tell Barnett's... You know what? He lost this round. I mean, Roy got this round. 100%. Is this going to be five rounds? This is five rounds.

Oh, shit. Which is bad for Roy, I feel like. Yeah, one of five, man. Yeah. This is interesting. He's going to pass right here. Watch. He's going to go.

Oh, look at that knee slice. Oh. Henzo Gracie black belt son Yeah, it's more like more than black though. He was with Mark Lehman longer than well. Henzo game is black Well, Henzo game is black, but yes, you're right. You're right. So it's Mark Lehman. He did train with Mark He trained with Mark for a long time Good ground and pound by Roy good fucking ground and pound from the half bar net off his back Interesting that he's able to take Barnett off his back. Wow. Interesting that he's able to take Barnett down twice.

Do you think that being leaner, losing weight, makes you a little more vulnerable to takedowns? Because the guy doesn't have to throw as much weight around? Does that make any sense? It does kind of make sense. But only a little bit, right? A little bit. Because it's only like 20 pounds.

Well, that's why there's weight divisions in wrestling. Bigger guys can take little guys down easy, and little guys can't take bigger guys down right but i mean how much people are killing themselves the question is like how much of barnett's weight loss is like he's lost some fat clearly right to get down like 10 pounds what do you think is it barnett wrestling college how much lighter is it probably 15. he was two six was he 234 right now he used to be like 264. he lost 25 pounds really 25 he was always 265. he was always let's find out what he weighed in for the travis brown fight you know what he was

actually 265. he was more like yeah he's about 265. but um so he lost some fat right now do you wrestle in college josh barnett josh i don't think he did i don't think if he did it was probably a junior college um so i'm not that shocked that he's being taken down here. It's not like he was a world-class wrestler. Dude, no one takes Josh down, really. It's pretty rare, but he's a black belt catch wrestler. D.C. ragdolled him. But you know what?

I think, yeah, D.C. did. D.C. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Come on. Oh, shit. Come on, Josh. Roy is throwing haymakers.

Get that money, Roy. I'll send you 50%, buddy. Dude, Roy Nelson does not look like he's in bad shape here. I know. Don't let the gut fool you. And here comes a hard shot by Roy. Dude. God damn it.

Roy has. Look at Roy's throwing kicks. Roy's got some hammer, son. Look at that. He is hurt. Jesus Christ, Roy hits hard. Josh has some big ass legs. That's how I get it.

Sorry, bro. I was about to go even gayer. I was about to say he has some juicy thighs but a flat ass. That's a bad look, son. This is interesting. I remember hanging out with Roy Nelson years and years ago. I never, ever imagined he would be a UFC superstar knocking people out. That's the last thing I ever would imagine.

Dude, we had breakfast with him at the hotel in that little cafe before he ever had an MMA fight. And we knew him as a jiu-jitsu guy. Yeah, he was a dude who was really good at jiu-jitsu. Yeah, I fought Roy with four fights. Oh, Jesus. He turned into a brawler. Ooh, good check hooked by Josh.

248. 248. So he wasn't that much heavier for that fight. He was only 9 pounds heavier for his Travis Brown fight. He looked like shit, man. Right. His body looked like shit. He's put on muscle and lost fat.

But he definitely hasn't lost 25 pounds, according to that weigh-in at least. But he looks good, man. This is about his good fit. He doesn't look weak is what I'm saying. So Roy's taking him down. I really don't think that that's the factor. I think it's just Roy's catching him in transitions. Oh, shit.

Nice straight left. Oh, fuck, bro. Barnett. These boys are trading. Barnett also looks like he's been turning it on. Like he turned it on in the stand-up. Oh, look at that. After initial flurries.

That was beautiful. Bro, he hurt him. That was beautiful. Very good combos. That's beautiful. Dude, he's kind. He hurt him. That was beautiful. Very good combos. That's beautiful. Dude, he's kind of fucked him up there. And he's pouring it on him. Boom.

And he's switching southpaw. Barnett's striking was great. Oh, nice. Elbows. Jesus. Boom. Yeah, and he's waiting for Roy to get tired before he pours it on, too. Damn.

Fighting crafty in the beginning part of the round and then he hits around three minutes in he starts really turning it off some veteran shit yeah well he also knows roy you know could do oh shit roy can do a lot of damage but he's trying to touch the ground you can't be at your best with that body there's no way boom yeah there's physically there's just no girls like that but but let's bro let's say roy let's say Roy gets down to 220. Is he going to be the same power puncher? Or does that right hand go away? That's a super good question.

And that's his shit. No one could know, right? You don't know until he tries it. And he's never tried it. I mean, we might see a better Roy than ever. Jesus Christ, Josh is looking good. He's relentless here with his stand-up. Who's bleeding?

It's Josh's nose on Roy's shoulder. Look at Roy's. Roy's in agony, man. He's taking here with his stand-up. Who's bleeding? It's Josh's nose on Roy's shoulder. Look at Roy. Roy's in agony, man. He's taking some big breaths. Josh keeps hitting that solar plexus, too. Dude, you know when Josh would have Stitch corner him, which this hurts him for sure, not having Stitch, because he used to only fight with Stitch. Before he went in lockdown, he'd tell Stitch, let me die in there.

Jesus Christ. I used to tell Stitch the opposite. Don't let me die in there. For reals. I'm like, hey, I'd say, Stitch, look at me, bro. Don't let me die in there. For reals. I'm like, hey, I say Stitch, look at me, bro. Don't let me fucking die in there, bro. Oh, my God.

Josh would say the exact opposite. I remember thinking, God damn, that's gangster. What's that, Jamie? It was 265, that fight. Oh, okay. Boom. So it was incorrect. 25 pounds.

Yeah, you're 100% right then. That's 100% right. More so, right? right damn this is nasty it's gonna be interesting this thing goes all five there's no way damn I think it was 26 pounds right Eddie know what they said you know just 239 so he lost 26 pounds that's insane insane. Talk about dedication. Oh, man. That elbow. Nasty. You think Josh is mad that Reebok didn't make it speedo, Reebok?

Nah. Dennis Hallman's pissed. Oh, yeah. Josh used to always fight in those fucking undies. Boom. There's that knee again. Oh, man. His clinch is nasty, this fight.

I don't see how much Roy's done. Oh, Roy's done. He is tired. Unless he's playing possum. That's not a possum. Oh! Roy's done. He is tired as fuck. Unless he's playing possum. That's not a possum. Oh! Roy with a big kick! Crazy!

What? Kung fu panda! Oh, and fucking Josh comes back. Unless he's playing possum and he throws a head kick. Crazy. That would fucking suck. Bad coming. He throws a head kick.

And rocked him. But then Barnett rocked him back. Is that his first head kick ever? I would assume so. especially in the UFC. That was some straight panda bear shit, man. You see that tattoo he has on his shoulder? That's his, he had a shirt apparel line back when he was like a purple belt in jiu-jitsu, 808 or something like that, or something like that.

And that was like, he was going to make his money that way with his shirt on. He had dragon skins. He had dragon skins. He had dragon skins. What's that? Remember the rash guards? He had a really good brand of rash guards that was his. I think that's it. I think that's the logo.

I think that's it because I used to love his shit. That's the tattoo. He sent them to me once. He had the best rash guards. Really? Yeah. He just stopped doing them? I don't know, man.

That's a good question. But he had rash guards with a really good material He just stopped doing them? I don't know, man. You know, that's a good question. But he had rash guards with like a really good material that like wicked sweat away from you. They were really good rash guards. Roy's always been a smart guy, man. Mark your words. He's always been on the outside of that shit. It was like a tough texture. It was soft,

but it was a tough texture. And the idea I think was that it was really good for grappling because it wouldn't tear as easy as like a regular rash guard, which is meant for surfing. That's cool. Yeah, he's always been kind of the smart guy doing different shit. He's always gone against the grain. Always. That's been Roy, man.

So what happens now after that second round? That second round was crazy. Now it's 1-1. It's 1-1. But there's no way this goes all five. I think Barnett TKO's him in the third. Or Roy hits him with one of those fucking head kicks. What are we talking about? Could you imagine?

If Roy landed that head kick and Barnett toes curled, we'd be like, what in the fuck? Greatest knockout in heavyweight history. Here we go. Round three, man. Fuck, man. Both these guys are so fucking mentally tough. You're not breaking either one of these guys. Oh, nice uppercut.

You know, it's almost like Roy has to empty the gas tank early because he's got to try to hurt Josh while he can, too. Those takedowns are fresh. He keeps getting them down like this with a body lock, and then he trips them. Oh! Those knees are nasty. Barnett's not even attempting to take him down.

I think that's interesting. It is. With Barnett, how heavy he is on top. Well, I think once Roy got on top of him, too, in that first round, that was no fun. No, he said, you know what? Fuck this. Well, Roy's got a respected game. His grappling game.

Oh, yeah, man. Although we don't see it very often in his fights, it's very high level. Everybody knows it. He's strong as fuck. He's no joke. These are good knees inside of the leg here. I'm more impressed with Barnett's stand-up, how far it's come far it's come along in the clinch until he's working on Muay Thai He does a lot of crazy shit to like Josh does savant and stuff like that. He has like a savant trainer

He's an interesting dude man. Very smart guy man. Are you for against male? UFC fighters wearing rash guards guards would you be against that it's kind of girls wear a long sleeve though i don't know i don't think they wear rash guards right but would you be happy with just chest i would i mean i would think rash guards would mean like because there's a big problem with greasing obviously in mma people are always a big people are accusing anytime a fighter is going to fight some guy that's known for jiu-jitsu if he doesn't grease up nobody's checking he'd be an idiot now how do they check you get patted down what happens hey where's the test look at this they'll wipe you off from the clinch yeah that's a bummer they don't test

that what are they that's a wipe, bro. That doesn't mean nothing. No one gets busted. If they give you a mineral oil bath the night before and then they wash you and wipe you down. There's oil still there. No one's ever been busted. The only way to really do it would be after a fight. There'd be a guy that's assigned to that. He takes a swab and does it like that across your back.

I don't think it's an epidemic. I don't think it's a huge issue. I think everyone complains. People are always complaining that people well if you're gonna fight a guy who's a nasty submission guy and you know that you could take a mineral oil bath the night before and take a shower and soap up the day after and it will still have an effect that won't be measurable because like people are smoother and slicker after they do that even after they take a shower and even with you and then when you put the vaseline on that's a huge issue.

When you put Vaseline on fighters' eyes, that shit gets all over the body because the guys touch the face, they're grappling, it gets on their back. All of a sudden, the guy's filled up with Vaseline. For sure.

But we remember when Anderson Silva wiped it off his face and wiped it on his shoulders and his chest. Clay Greedy got in trouble because his brother would slap it on him. You know that? When you slap him,

you get in trouble. He can't slap him anymore. All I'm saying is I think they should let fighters wear Reebok rash guards. Clay Greedy got in trouble because his brother would slap it on him. You know that? When he'd slap him, he got in trouble. He can't slap him anymore. Yeah. All I'm saying is I think they should let fighters wear Reebok rash guards. You know how much money Reebok would make? I don't think they'd make any more money than they're making with these shorts. We know the fighters aren't going to make more. Reebok rash guards would be huge.

I don't know. They haven't touched that market. Do you remember when Pat Miletic fought Carlos Newton and Jeremy Horn, like, I think it was that fight where he put Vaseline on Pat's neck. It was one of the fights where he put it on. It was like a miscommunication. That's a bad idea to stand like that. Maybe Jeremy fucked up.

I don't know who fucked up, but there was somehow, maybe Jeremy thought that Pat said put it on my neck. I don't remember the details. Oh, shit, this fight is crazy. Roy Nelson's hurt. He just took a big, deep breath. Oh, look at that. Now he's looking for the single.

Oh. Dude, if he gets him down with another single leg. Look at this. Roy Nelson trying to snap that leg straight. That's exhausting for Roy, by the way. Mm-hmm. Yep. But is it more exhausting than standing up and dealing with the barrage of strikes that

Josh keeps putting on him? What kind of testing do they do in Japan? That's a great point. Of what? UFC testing. Asfador. Asfador. Is the USADA doing it?

Who's doing it? Well, aren't the UFC fighters all tested randomly now? That's what I think, right? But September 30th, you have to fill out this sheet where you've got to give them your location, your whereabouts, so they can come get you any time. Right. But, like, what is... I wonder how they're getting tested after this fight.

Do you think fighters are not doing roids anymore because of this? Do you think they're scared and they're like, what are they doing? What do you think they're doing to get around these new testing schedules? It's always going to be an issue. Some of them for sure are going to stop doing it. 100%. Some of them.

It's always an issue, though. Levitsky said that was pretty interesting. He said they figured out a way to make testosterone from animals that's undetectable. Like now they can tell. They make it from yams. They make it from some wild yam. I don't know how the fuck they make it. Your boy also was talking about microdosing, too, right?

Boom, kick to the body. Boom, to the head. Oh, shit. Oh, look at those big shots. Look at Roy with the bolo punches. Bro. God damn, what a fight. What was that, round three?

That was round three, yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, he was talking about microdosing, but he was also talking about a new form of testosterone that they've been able to do, that they make out of animals. I guess the test before could show that it didn't come from an animal, that it came from

some plant. Plant form. The way they create it. So now, apparently, they're able to do that. We were also talking about the Tour de France. What's so funny? What are you laughing at? They had that band Europe singing the final countdown.

I'm not going to make fun of them, but I can just imagine their manager calling them and saying we got some good news and some bad news. The good news is we got to a national commercial. We got some good news. The bad news is they got to a national commercial. We got some good news. The bad news is they're going to make fun of you. Yikes.

They don't give a fuck. It's like a microwave oven. They probably didn't know. The managers, they don't tell them until they get there. And then in the middle of the commercial shoot

and they kind of figured it out. Oh, shit. They're goofing on us. You think they give a fuck, though? Yeah. They're not doing shit. But it's still their song. I mean, they're still doing it.

It's not like they're changing it. National campaign, son. Here we go. Round four, championship hounds. What do you think? This is actually fought at a pretty fucking good pace. Barnett with the high kick, man. Full kick to the body.

Jab to the face. Barnett's still got gas. Look at him. Yeah, he's pouring it on, too. What do you have, Barnett, up three to one? Two to one. Two to one? I haveett up three to one two to one two to one i'm up two to one if i was really absolutely doing back to zero i'm gonna hashtag back to zero i watch

back to zero as soon as this is over but when you think about the first round didn't barnett do way more damage on the feet than roy taking down twice and dominated right but didn't barnett do more damage on the feet than he did but doesn't matter does it down twice and dominated. Right, but didn't Barnett do more damage on the feet than Roy did when they were on the ground? He did, but doesn't matter in judging. Does it? No, doesn't matter. I don't know, but shouldn't it matter?

Shouldn't it matter? Like, who got hurt more in that first round? I would say Roy did. I would say Josh did more damage standing up. Two takedowns though? Oh, three. Oh, look at that, look at that sweep. Woo, look at that.

And immediately needed a body. Great job. Damn, if he didn't decide to go for it right there, he would've been on his back. Sweet! Woo! Look at that. And immediately needed a body. Damn. Great job. Damn, if he didn't decide to go for it right there, he would've been on his back. That was a fucking lightning quick decision. You gotta keep going with that whizzer. Bam.

Josh Barnett is just, he's in better shape in this fight than I've seen him in a long, long time. How do you feel about someone stomping on your feet? Is it dirty or is it part of the game? It's fighting. Part of the game. No, it's not dirty?

Josh Barnett tying his arm out, punches to the body, knees to the body. Ba's fighting. Part of the game. No, it's not dirty. Josh Barnett tying his arm out. Punches to the body. Knees to the body. Bro, I ate that entire bag of mangoes. They're so good. They're delicious. Some of the best snack food ever. Whoever figured out how to do that shit, it was genius.

Mexicans. I know. I put that online, and that's all Mexicans kept saying. Be nice to those Mexicans. It was Mexicans. We invented a lot of shit that we didn't get credit for. All that NWA shit, that's all Mexican. Low Riders, Impalas, the fucking outfits. It's true. That's all Mexican. We invented a lot of shit that we didn't get credit for. All that NWA shit, that's all Mexican. Low Riders, Impalas, the fucking outfits.

It's true. That's all Mexican. Oh, shit. It's true. And still people make fun of us. Well, it's just because we're so close to Mexico. We invented gangster rap. Oh, shit.

Uppercuts. Oh, shit. How fucking tough is Roy Nelson? Boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, my goodness. Josh Barnett. Oh, shit. Fucking born it on. Get out of, boom, boom, boom. Oh my goodness. Josh Barnett. Oh shit. Fucking Barnett on.

Oh, look at those elbows. Get out of there, Roy. Oh, look at those elbows. Nasty elbows. Look at that chin of Roy Nelson. Oh my God, and Barnett keeps mixing it up. If Roy took him, I mean if Barnett took him down right now, this thing would be over. Jesus Christ.

I think he should just go more elbows. He's battering with these fucking punches. These elbows and the uppercut. Oh, shit. He doesn't know what's coming, whether it's an elbow or an uppercut. And Barnett just keeps changing it up. It's weird how Roy's face is it. Such a professional job.

He's doing such a professional job of mixing up his technique. You know? Does he still have his podcast? No. He doesn't have his podcast? No. He doesn't do it anymore? Nope. He's a great guest. I love having him on as a guest.

Super interesting guy. Super smart, man. Those fucking elbows. He's going to break his elbow. Oh, shit. And Roy comes back with an elbow of his own. Josh Barnett is in crazy shape. Look at this.

Take down. Take down. Fuck. Take down. Attack the leg. Josh getting back up to his feet. Oh, got his back, son. Get the hooks in, Roy, Roy. Look at this.

Does Josh roll for a leg? Does he roll? Damn. He's got to stand up. Is that his style, catch wrestling? Yeah, he'll try to roll for a leg if he got his leg in between him. Stand up. He doesn't have his leg in between him anymore.

Stand up. There we go. But if he gets his leg in between him, he will drop and roll. Look at this. Look at that. He's going right to Sakuraba. I'm impressed with Roy, man, getting him down. Sakuraba. Look at this.

He's going for that Kimura. And he uses it to stand up. Look at that. He makes Roy defend it, and then. Stands up, goes to the fence, turns around. Smart man. This is a great fight, man. This is a great fight.

I'd love to see Barnett versus Orlovsky. Oh! That would be really good, actually. Great fight. I'd love to see Barnett versus Orlovsky. That'd be really good, actually. Round five is going to end right at three hours. Okay, well, just we'll restart it in between rounds. We can't leave the people hanging here. What if something crazy happens and we don't have it on film? After this round, you have to start?

Yeah, because we're at three hours. Because the fight is going over. Because I guess no one thought that the fights would go that long. But how is that possible? Because Uriah Hall went... They give you a three-hour block? Is that what they do? I think so. In the stream or something? But all the fights went to decision except for Uriah, though.

Right. That's probably what it is. Damn. This is a great fight. I like Josh's southpaw style too with that fucking left kick it keeps wrong left knee it seems like Josh is definitely a fat tired of course he is how could he not Roy is too though look at both of them Josh head position position come on that's exhausting yep it's exhausting if you're really he's adjusting stays on it's hard to pull off a

technique a counter technique when you got someone's head up you're Roy. He's adjusting every time. He's adjusting. Stays on you. It's hard to pull off a technique, a counter technique, when you've got someone's head up your jaw. I'll tell you what, man. Both these guys have been in there with just the best of the best. Think about Roy's fights in the UFC. Yeah, but if you think about experience-wise, wouldn't you give Barnett the edge seeing all the fights he had in Pride? 100% in Pride. 100%. The only one missing from his resume was Fedor in Pride.

True, true. But if you go to UFC experience, it's Roy by far. Yep. What happened? What happened? Did he hit him low? Yeah, hitting the nuts. Get that rest, Roy.

Right at the bell. It's the end of the round. Wow. Let's see this. Oh, Jesus. No, that's the gut. No, hold up. Hold up.

Let's see if he gets it. I think this is earlier in the round. This is just the beatdown. Yeah. Jesus Christ. These are awesome combinations. No, hold up. Hold up. Let's see if he gets it. I think this is earlier in the round. This is just the beatdown. Yeah. Jesus Christ. These are awesome combinations. There's a vicious uppercut. Oh, bro, you know who Roy fought after he got knocked out by Hunt?

Overeem. Right to a leg lock. Look at that. Oh, that's right. That's right. Roy fought Overeem. That was a good fight. That was a good fight.

And Overeem had to stay the fuck away from him. Fuck, yeah. And Roy knocked him down once. Overeem's JDS next, correct? What a fight that's going to be. Holy shit. It's been forever. Wouldn't you want to see Overeem versus Barnett?

I would love that. That would be fucking interesting. Super interesting. That would be very interesting. I got Barnett in that fight. I just think he's tougher. Wow. They never fought each other in pride, huh?

Nope. That would be a great fucking fight, man. I think Barnett-Orlovsky, Barnett-Overeem. There's a bunch of good fights in the heavyweight division. What? The fuck? Heavyweight's an easy-ass job to make fights. JDS and Overeem is a great fight, though,

and there's been a lot of shit-talking over the years. They hate each other, huh? Yeah, I wonder... I mean, it's a good time, because Overeem's got some confidence now. Is it a good time? I think so. I don't think so. Well, I think so time cuz over he's got some confidence. Is it a good time. I think so I don't think so. Well, I think so because JDS sets of trouble. It's a good time for

I think it's a good time for over him. It's bad. Yes for JDS That's what I mean And I think that if it was earlier it would have been a good time for JDS and a bad time for over it I agree Josh Barnett pouring it on. I agree 100%. So I think like right now though is like the closest it's been. You know, I think I would have given Overeem an edge

if you would have the Overeem that fought Brock. That motherfucker took over the world. That's the only fight ever in my life they would have called me. I'm like no good man not interested no i'm hurt what do you got i don't know make something on it yo stop feeling it bro that overeem the 265 pounds shredded overeem regardless of substances that enhance that position that motherfucker was terrifying so that guy i like that guy i like him over uh a lot of people maybe even

over junior dos santos but bro i like him over june dos santos and kane at the same time fuck that guy was on another level i don't know though i don't know if he would be able to do that to kane in that fight i mean would he been able to keep you got to think first of all we're looking at the results but we're not thinking about the players because Josh, I mean, Brock Lesnar was coming off a stomach surgery. I don't care. He had 12 inches of his colon removed. Overeem was touching him and just, fuck, it looked like it hurt.

Yeah. I mean, look, Overeem's terrifying. There's no doubt about it. No, that Overeem is. This new Overeem, he's not as terrifying. Well, it's not the same guy, you know, I mean, physically. No, not even close. But we don't know how much of that fight was over him

and how much of it was Brock Lesnar really should have been fighting. I agree. What MMA legend, UFC legend, did Valentine over him beat? Randy Couture. Huh? Hold up. He beat, Valentine beat. You just heard Joe say it.

Don't act like you're just, he's like, Chadwick, you just said Randy Couture. He guillotined Randy Couture, tapped him. But I guess he never fought in the UFC. He also beat Ray Cepho, which is old school, but he got him in a neck crank. Right, but Ray's more of a K-1 legend than he is a UFC legend, right? Yeah, that was the last time I heard him.

I like how you were thinking about it when he said it. I was about to go there, too. Hold, hold, hold. Ensign, anyway, armbarred Randy. Remember that fight? Yeah. Ensign kicked Randy with some crazy hard kicks off of his side. Like he was lying on his side, almost like a semi-butt scoot.

That's how Hoist does it. Sakuraba, too? Hoist was throwing off his back some serious kicks to sakuraba's knee yeah oh my god he does have a kimura but he doesn't have the legs right and that's roy nelson that kimura is not going to be it's going gonna be hard. Dude, Josh Brineck. You know Randy... Oh, go ahead. Ensign was like on his side throwing roundhouse kicks to the leg.

Fucking hard kicks, man. Like, I remember thinking like, whoa, I didn't know you could throw kicks like that from your side. Like, that's the first time I've ever seen a guy do that. Oh, shit, Roy. Not much time left. Oh.

Nasty knee to the body. How about Randy Couture said if Bellator would have signed Fedor, he'd want to still fight him. Did he really say that? He did. How old is Randy Couture right now? I thought he said he doesn't. I thought he said he was interested in that fight.

Well, if he's interested, we don't know who Fedor is fighting in Japan. If Japan really wants to make some money, that's the fight. How old is Randy Couture, though? 52. 52? 52. Hey, man, let's not do that, huh? How about no? Hey, I'm all for 52. 52? 52. Hey, man, let's not do that, huh? How about no?

I'm all for it. Fuck no. I'm all for it. Let's make 50 the new 40. Bro, what if it's Kimbo Slice? Let me make sure that Randy Couture is 52. Could you look that up? Bob Sapp, Fedor, New Year's Eve.

No, what if it's Kimbo Fedor? Oh, that would be horrendous. He's 52. If horrendous, you mean awesome. No, man, that would be so wrong. Dude. That would be so wrong. Dude. That would be so fucked up. A juiced up Fedor versus Kimbo. Ken Shamrock looked fit.

And he's like 50-something, right? Ken Shamrock was shredded. But if Fedor comes back and he's at his old skill level, that's a terrible mismatch. I mean... That's a big if, bro. Well, if they're letting them fight in Japan and if Japan doesn't have any we're not saying I just want to get it right out of the way

don't accuse me of accusing him of juicing but let's just say let's just say we go back to the Vanderlei oh look at these companies Roy Nelson's gonna go for it Roy Nelson's going for it he is going for it

fuck it 15 seconds oh shit Josh looked up at the clock 12 seconds to go Kick to the body by Barnett. Roy Nelson's going for it. He is going for it. Fuck it. 15 seconds. Oh, shit. Nice combo. Josh looked up at the clock. 12 seconds to go. Crush back to corner. Oh.

Go, Roy. That was a hard shot to the forearm, man. He threw a sidekick. Damn. Oh, Roy's with a big shot. What a fucking fight. What a fucking fight. Damn. That's what you expect out of those fucking two.

Did we make it out of three hours? We're over three. We're over three? Whatever. Mother trucker. Whew. Barn's what you expect out of those fucking two. Did we make it out of three hours? We're over three. We're over three? Whatever. Mother trucker. Whew. Barnett by decision, right? Probably.

I think so. Most likely. You never know, though, right? 3-2? I bet they give it to him 3-2. Never know. I mean, we've seen crazier shit. Takedowns in Japan.

You never know. Boom. Boom. What a great fight. I'll tell you one thing. Unquestionably, Josh Barnett looked as good as he's ever looked. Like his physical shape, like the combinations. This is the best Roy's looked too in a long time.

Roy was way more prepared than his body would let you think. Right? If you looked at him. 100%. I mean, he obviously went five hard fucking rounds. You can never judge Roy by his look, though. Hurt him in the fifth round. You know, he still had power in the fifth and final round.

And took him down four times. Took him down in the fifth round. Took Josh Barnett four times. And took him down the fifth. And hurt him in the fifth, too. Banged him. I think he ate some hard fucking kicks to his arms, too, man. So a guy like Roy, he's won one in his last five.

What do you do with that? Never let that guy go. He's always fun. He's always fun to watch, man. Can't let that guy go. No. I'm saying if you're Roy. Not if you're Ozzy, Dana White, Sagan, let him go.

It's hard if you're Roy. It's hard. What do you do? Honestly, what he needs to do is what Josh just showed. He needs to get in some serious shape. Redefine himself. Take some time off. Well, yeah.

I mean, look how much better Josh looked with a dietician. I mean, I guess it's a guy he trains with. It's a guy who's prescribed his diet for him, who's monitoring his diet for him. But look how goddamn good he looked. Five hard rounds against a bomber like Roy Nelson. That was a scrap. Scrap. Yes.

And Josh looked great in the fifth and final round. He looked amazing. I mean, still had real good wings. I thought they both looked amazing. I think Roy was pouring it on at the end there. Sure as fuck was. But now let's imagine if Roy had done the same thing that Josh did. Would Roy have won that fight? Who knows, man.

If Roy had done the same thing that Josh did as far as monitoring his diet, but could still hit that fucking hard, lost the body fat, had more gas in his tank, was able to pour it on more. Was able to counter more off the cage. The difference in this really wasn't Roy striking, was it? It was his takedowns, his grappling. That was a lot. So let's say he loses weight and starts taking pitches down.

And not losing the position because of scrambles. Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, not conserving his gas tank. Yeah, man. He got in tremendous shape. Let's say he got down to 185. Can you imagine how good his jiu-jitsu would look? Oh, my God.

Incredible. I mean, who knows 185? We're kind of talking crazy. 185 is fucking nuts. Asking the guy to lose 85 fucking pounds. Even 205. You're talking about a different game. He's a big guy jiu-jitsu.

Top heavy. You know what I'm saying? That's his game. You don't know how light he could be. What could it be? 185 ain't happening, gentlemen. Come on, man. Look at that.

No, no. You might be wrong, though. You might be wrong. 185 ain't happening, gentlemen. Come on, man. Look at that. No, no. I don't know, man. You might be wrong, though. You might be wrong. Because look, what if he loses 50 pounds? Okay, if he loses 50 pounds, he's 210. If he loses 210, he's Chris Weidman. And then he gets, yeah, and then he gets shreds. But just stop and think about that.

No, I'm with you. It sounds fun. Hey, Eddie, you want to bet 10 Gs Roy never gets an 185? 10 Gs. Josh Barnett, the War Master. Congratulations, sir. He's not even breathing heavy. Well, I mean, he's recovered.

No, he's tired for sure. It's a hell of a fucking fight. Hell of a fight. Jesus Christ. Hell of a fight. God damn, Josh Barnett. Let me see if he says some crazy pro wrestling shit. Crank that shit up.

Because sometimes he says crazy pro wrestling shit. Yeah, they're usually good. He picked me up once I felt like a pillow After the fight he was still jazzed up After the Frank Mir fight He hoisted me up in the air Like a throw rug

Just like a fucking Like a scarf Like a welcome mat You know those welcome mats That's what I felt like Josh should have satanic tattoos Oh he's gonna talk in Japanese. He talks Japanese.

He does. That's where the money comes from right there. They love him over there, man. Hell yeah. He speaks Japanese, man. What a stud. Wow. He's getting big laughs.

Isn't it? He's such an unusual dude. Yeah, he's a weird bird. I respect the fuck out of that guy, though. Oh, me too. I mean, I'm not going to hang out with him, but for sure. What? You wouldn't hang out with him?

I probably would. We're just so different, man. You would love him. You would love him. Really? Yeah, he's awesome. I'm a big fan of Josh Barnett as a person. I like hanging out with him. I love having him on Really? Yeah, he's awesome. I'm a big fan of Josh Barnett as a person. I like hanging out with him.

I love having him on the podcast. He's great on your podcast. Smart motherfucker, dude. As smart and as well-read and as nuanced in his thinking as anybody I know. And he's a professional fighter at the highest level. Nothing I did in here was good enough tonight. Nothing I did in here was good enough tonight. He's a fucking monster.

He's on a fucking bender right now. That's not the right word. Bender. Bender. It's a horrible word. Or drugs. He's on a run is what I meant to say. Yeah, he's on a stretch.

He's doing well is what I meant to say. He's on a real bender. Ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen. Open mouth, insert foot. It would be one thing if I didn't do this for a living. She's looking at Josh Barnett. Oh, my God.

Are you looking at her eyes? She wants that baby face dick. Hi. Hi. He's like Godzilla over there, bro. Tomo arigato. You know, Rampage destroys in Japan. He still destroys Asians in America.

How dare you bring that up? That's all he likes. He's not here to defend himself. That's all he likes. Hey, you know they're talking about having Rampage fight Rumble? Why would they do that?

I've heard Rampage Shogun. Oh, I like that. Oh wait, or is Dan Shogun? It's Dan Shogun. Well, Shogun just had shoulder surgery. He's been in a sling. Like his arm's been in a sling. But he's back training. Is he? He was in a sling like really recently. Really? Yeah, like reallying. But he's back training. Is he? He was in a sling, like, really recently. Really?

Yeah. Like, really recently. There was photos of him, I think on Instagram or something like that, of him in a sling. I heard Rampage Shogun. That's what I heard. That'd be a crazy fight. That's the next fight. That's a crazy fight.

But if Shogun did have shoulder surgery, I don't know what surgery he had or why. I'm assuming. You know what? I might be making this up. Because I'm assuming it was a shoulder thing because he had his arm in a sling. It could have been something as simple as bone spurs pulled out of his elbow, which is a quick turnaround. A lot of guys do, what does it say?

Surgery, what does it say? Early 2016 return. Yeah, so it's probably shoulder. What does it say? Does it say what kind of surgery? Young Jamie? Shoulder. He's taking off his gloves. probably shoulder. What does it say? Does it say what kind of surgery? Young Jamie? Shoulder. He's taking off his gloves.

Right shoulder. Yeah, it was shoulder surgery. See? You don't hear shit. No, I just guessed. I did hear Shogun Rampage. Well, so... From a reliable source.

Well, now if Shogun is not going to be able to fight until 2016, I wonder what they'll do. Because... Well, you know what? Black on black crime, son. But most of the fights up until December are already accounted for anyway. Especially the big blockbusters. They're already accounted for anyway, so maybe that is the fight.

But Rumble versus Rampage would be crazy for as long as it lasted. That's a crazy fight. What if Rampage wins? What if Rampage can take it and KO's him? I love Rampage. I What if Rampage can take it and KO's him? I love Rampage. I don't like that fight for him. Scary fight.

Rumble's terrifying right now. Fucking terrifying. How good did he look in that Gustafson fight? He's like Wolverine style. Terrifying. That Gustafson fight scared the fucking shit out of me. Well, then he knocked fucking Homeboy to next week. Dude, he's a monster.

Straight monster. Yeah, he's so good right now. And you know what? I think he's coming off of that Daniel Cormier loss. He's upset monster straight monster. Yeah, he's so good right now, and you know what I think he's coming off of that Daniel Cormier loss he's upset with himself and training even harder even more focused 205 is really wide He's Instagramming a whole shitload of pictures of his dog, so you know dogs. Yeah, you know He's taking it serious. What does that mean? You know what it proves that he's he's an emotional an emotional person and his heart is in the right place. Because he Instagrams pics of his dogs?

Yes. That's weird, man. Interesting take on it. You know what bothers me when guys post quotes all the time? Well, guys or girls. Guys or girls post quotes. It pisses me off. I post memes.

I don't know. I had to stop following a friend because he kept posting quotes. Frank who? I said a friend. I'm not going to blast him. What kind of quotes are you talking about? Just bullshit. Like what?

Be strong and follow your delight. Successful people don't hate on others. Just bullshit like that. You know what's got a funny bit about motivational dudes online is Chris D'Elia. Does he? It's pretty fucking funny, man. Because Chris D'Elia doesn't work out at all and he's got like

this really funny bit about guys who tell him like, I think he says like hashtag fucking He hates beast mode stuff. What about

I hate beast mode stuff? Yeah, hashtag eat a dick. You see my shoes? I like Einstein quotes. Someone sent me these beast mode shoes and he wrote on there

like those fucking suck. Then sent me a text and was like why don't you go fuck yourself with those beast mode shoes. he wrote on there like those fucking suck then sent me a text it was like once you go fuck yourself with those beast mode shoes i put hey man relax i didn't fucking design them it's fun to say hashtag something a lot of comedians say that hashtag suck it hashtag people say that all like i catch myself doing it too it's like a really funny thing that people are doing you know what's crazy is when i think things. When I post a meme, I can see my followers rise, but when I post anything like anti-vaccine or any kind of...

Dude, I lose hundreds. I lose hundreds. It goes down. It's like 72,000.8 and then it was point seven point six So mad reach to do what people don't like conspiracy I lost you know what I clean them out. It's a filter. I need to clean those fuckers out Whatever. I try to watch a video tower seven go down and free fall speed You're gonna tell me that it burned. It was 9-11. Hey, I'm cleaning them out I gotta go to the comic store. So we gotta wrap this bitch up. We gotta wrap this bitch up chemtrails tower seven

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