The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 16, 2017

Episode Date: September 16, 2017

Joe sits down with Eddie Bravo & Jim Norton to watch the fights on September 16, 2017

Boom and we're live ladies and gentlemen with special guest little Jimmy Norton Thank you. Little Jimmy I didn't think you was gonna be here. This is a total surprise. This is awesome Yeah, I'm shooting something tomorrow and I wanted to watch the fight So I'm like you this probably I didn't think you'd be in town. You're always off like every time I call He's like, yeah, he's away. He's hunting. He's unreachable And I was just happy that you got back to me. Yeah, dude, it was perfect timing. You know, we had decided a while ago, well, I was supposed to be out of town, too.

And then decided to come back and make it back in time for this. I'm like, wow, we should definitely do a fight companion. So we decided to. But Eddie was available, luckily. Eddie, I will read your prize here. Should we be watching the UFC right now? Yeah, we are going to watch two different things at the same time, folks. This should be fucking complete chaos. The deal is that the Canelo Alvarez fight is supposed to start at 8 o'clock.

That's what they've been pushing. And I think they're doing that because they're trying to get a lot of people on the East Coast to buy it. Because after 11 p.m., you're like, Jesus Christ, I want to go to sleep. You know, because they were doing them a lot of times at like 9 p.m., 9.30. It's fucking midnight in New York. Yeah, it's crazy. You're tired. You know, it's a Saturday.

People can do it, but it's tough when it goes on 11, 12 o'clock at night. It's not wise, especially with boxing, because boxing has weak undercards. Not necessarily saying that this is a weak fight, but even if they have a good undercard what do they have like two fights right i mean how many fights they have you don't want to see more than that no i'm like a pay-per-view the worst part is when you when you watch one of these fights on the east coast by the time you get out the arena get your car it's you have time for one drink maybe and then they shut down bars well the good thing is the east coast they shut down bars at four, the good thing is in the East Coast, they shut down bars at four. Yeah, New York's four.

Out here, you can go back to your hotel room, take a shower, take a little power nap, and then you're ready to go to the after party, right? Yeah, it's over at like 10-ish. It's way better. Yeah, it's way better. I never watch boxing anymore either. I watch Conor and Floyd just to watch it, but I never watch, I think I watched the last Triple G fight.

That's it. I watch all of his fights, and I watch all Canelo's fights. And you know what's weird? When you're watching a guy start to slow down, like I watched Miguel Cotto's fight, and he won, but he's getting hit more than he used to get hit. He's like 36 now. I don't think they have UFC-style testing, though.

They don't have, like, USADA. They don't have a Jeff Nowitzki. So these guys can get away with a lot more. It's a little slippery. I don't have a Jeff Nowitzki. So these guys can get away with a lot more. It's a little slippery. I don't think they do steroids in boxing. That's hilarious. It's illegal. Dude, you know what you got to see?

Icarus. I don't know how to say it. Is it Icarus or Icarus? I would say Icarus. I-C-A-U-R. Yeah, but I would say that. It's one of those words that I've only read. Is it a documentary?

It's fucking amazing. And it's all on this Russian doctor that was like one of the top guys over there for steroids. And how much shit they can give you and you still test negative. Holy fuck. These guys are wizards. This guy is, they take this guy who's the main person in the documentary and they just pump him full of steroids. He's like, I want you to have a full CC of this and five of that. And he's shooting like six, seven

things in his ass. So they're filming an experiment? Yes. Oh, okay. They're filming an experiment with this Russian guy who's responding. One of the things they said was that out of the Russian athletes, there was some estimate in the high 90s of percentage of people that are on steroids. Who wasn't on steroids? Well, still., to this day.

In Rio, the Olympics were thinking about banning the entire Russian team. Their anti-doping program is so sophisticated and so state-sanctioned. Well, can they pass USADA testing, though? Could they pass that level? No. No. I mean, it depends.

See, the USADA thing, they'll show up at your fucking house. You have to give your whereabouts at all times. They will catch you. And the other thing is, they keep your piss and they keep your blood. And they keep it for a long time. I think like seven or eight years. And they actually just busted a guy who won the Olympics, I want to say 2008 and 2012 or something like that.

But I think it was two guys. I don't know. Maybe Jamie could find it. But they took away their gold medals, these Russian wrestlers. They busted them eight years later? Way later. They didn't have a test for whatever they were doing. So that's what happens.

It's like these guys are one step ahead, but then the tests catch up. You know? And then they find stuff in them. And they retroactively go and grab your shit from years ago. It's like when they save somebody's head like Ted Williams, hoping they can find a cure for whatever he died from and bring him back. That's why they freeze your body or freeze your head. Right. That's so crazy.

The freezing the head thing is so bananas. You're like, well, listen, for $5 more, we can keep your body. No, dude, you know, I'm taking a chance as it is. Let's just go with the head. Just the head. Yeah. Just the idea that they're gonna just keep your head frozen and Then you need to get like they don't wake you up Amongst the first people you get woke up after they figure out how to reattach heads to bodies, right?

You get woken up way later like what but they figure I just had a reanimate dead bodies That won't be that big of a deal But then detach heads on a new body like that's a couple more decades unless you talk to Ray Kurzweil He thinks we're gonna have that in 15 years. Yeah, it's very wishful timeline Is it possible to be such a famous fighter you have you're rubbing shoulders with the powerful the elite you're so famous Is it possible for the for a fighter't have so much fame that he has connections to the illuminati no the people that are testing group no the people testing for steroids that he would never get busted it's totally like it's a little winky winky certain is that possible it's totally possible but it's just super unlikely because there's too many pieces involved too

many people would know and it's uh also there no benefit to them. They would have to be getting paid shit tons of money. It's just so sneaky. Like, in order, if you have because you, what if someone dies? What if someone gets a shit beat out of them and winds up dying? And it turns out that these people got a hold of some money and that's what allowed them to not do drug

tests on this guy and this guy was on juice and then he goes in and beats someone to death? It's kind of hard to keep anything electronically a secret. I mean the head of the CIA couldn't make a fucking email disappear. Look at this. The Russians refused to return stripped Olympic medals. It doesn't matter if anything gets out. No one goes to jail. Hillary's

not in jail. Well, he stepped down though. He had to step down because he was having... I'm just saying... What were you saying, Jim? I missed it. I was reading the Russian thing. I was just saying electronically you can't... nothing's a secret anymore. What was his name, the head of the CIA who was cheating and he got busted in that stupid email? Yeah. Yeah. Petraeus.

Yeah, Dave Petraeus, yeah. And he was a war hero. Yeah, he ran the, what do they call it, the theater. Do you know the story behind him, though, how he got caught? I think they were investigating someone else, right? No, he was hooking up with a chick and the chick was a little mouthy didn't she write his book his biographer uh i think there was her and i think there was another one and the other one what might have been a part of some freaky marriage situation where the husband and wife bang other people or something it was it got It got heavy enough where it was weird.

Yeah. And one of the ways they got Petraeus out of there was through some sort of adultery clause, which is hilarious. Yeah, it's like a morals clause, right? This guy is one of the best killers in the military. And you tell him, if you bang other chicks, we won't let you kill people. It's crazy. I mean, this is all information that's coming from the mainstream media.

Who knows what really happened? Oh, those guys tell the truth. Who knows what's from the mainstream media. Who knows what really happened? Oh, those guys tell the truth. Who knows what's going on? Yeah, who knows what that is? Who knows why they made him do that? What pieces might have

fallen into play Frank Underwood style that allowed that to happen? Well, who did he piss off? It's like Elliot Spitzer pissed somebody off 10 years ago and they went digging

and they got him. Well, Spitzer went after the banks. It's really a shame about Spitzer because in any other era, Eliot Spitzer would have been probably like a big time hero. Like some sort of a clean them up cop type of guy

who's looking out for the good guy. The problem is there was some serious hypocrisy because it turns out that he was actually targeting brothels as well as visiting him Which is just yeah, man. You can't do that Like it's just that's even that's it's one thing if he just got hookers sure But the fact that the guy was arresting all those going out of his way for yeah

He's a real douche And it's like that's why I love to see these guys who? Legislate against gay people get busted in restrooms and stuff because you're actively trying to fuck somebody's life for sure and it's always those people It's always those people that care so much they get angry at gay people get busted in restrooms and stuff because you're actively trying to fuck somebody's life. For sure, and it's always those people. It's always those people that care so much. They get angry at gay people. It's just such a classic story. They've been hiding their whole life that they overdo it just so that no one sniffs them out.

It's such a classic cliche that you see it and you're like, oh God, so obvious. HBO did a great documentary on politicians who are outed like who were anti-gay but got outed as being gay you know what it's like it's like that really scrawny type of male feminist that's always like sticking up for women and saying like of course you are like it's such a cliche it's it's almost the same cliche right as the gay guy that's and it hates gay marriage and hates gay people because he's trying to cover it up.

It's usually these guys that are overwhelmed with lust. The women seem so impossible to get with that they morph themselves into this semi-real human being that only looks out for women's issues all the time, 24-7, doesn't see anything wrong with women, ever. You know that guy where it's like, you're not even real anymore. Yeah, it gets you to put on, then you're fucking allowed to walk among them and be comfortable, and they trust

you. And they call you an ally. You're an ally. Yeah, and they fuck the allies, so everyone wants to be an ally. Of course. Let's watch the UFC. Eddie Brown doesn't like boxing. But look, man be an ally. Of course. Let's watch the UFC. Any problem with boxing? But look, man, they keep punching each other.

It is interesting how it becomes way less interesting, right? Yeah, I haven't watched, I just can't watch anymore. Well, I watched

Mayweather versus Conor. I thought that was interesting. I was in Iceland for that. It was like 5 o'clock in the morning.

It was in a bar. And it was fun to watch because, you know, again, I wanted to see if Conor would do okay. But Mayweather against anybody else, I have no interest in. Yes, that was lots of fun. That was lots of fun. Dude, I like watching that guy fight, period.

I'm always, I watch Mayweather even if it's a boring-ass fight. Because what you're watching is some guy that just can do things that other people are not able to do. Yeah, he's great. He's one step ahead. I just don't enjoy him. I watched the Pacquiao fight, and I was like, what am I fucking doing here?

Yeah, you can't remember one round from the next. They all look exactly the same. What channel on... 219. 219, thank you, sir. So what we're going to do, folks, is just go back and forth from the fight. So you're a totally hardcore MMA fan, would you consider yourself?

He does a podcast. Me and Matt do the UFC podcast. That's right. I'm a fan. Matt's like the expert, and I'm like the guy who can do the more human side of things. Every UFC you're going to try to watch, unless you've got something going on. I watch most of them. I usually watch them the next day

on the Fight Pass, because I'm usually doing gigs Saturday night. Dude, Matt is great. I love Matt, dude. He's such a great guy. He is. Matt took Eddie and I into his gym in like 2001 or some shit. Remember that?

He took us to his gym. He picked us up at the train station. We took the train into Long Island. He picked us up in the train station, took us to his gym, showed us his apartment in the basement where he used to pee in a jug because he drank so much water He couldn't get out of bed He's asleep because he's fighting sure so he would just carry a jug and put it right by the bed and just piss in the Jug in the middle of the night. It was hilarious. Matt. Sarah is awesome. Yeah He's such a real guy like he's exactly that guy all the yeah, he's great. He's great

What a great move it is to have him on that Dana white looking for a fight show and to have him on your podcast He's such a real guy. He's exactly that guy all the time. Yeah, he's great. He's great. What a great move it is to have him on that Dana White looking for a fight show and to have him on your podcast. Well, he was on the podcast first, and I think that they asked him a couple of people, and when Dana brought up my name, he's like, yeah, I would love to, because we got along well. So it's a fun dynamic. It is fun. And you guys got gelled with each other. You know, you gel.

Yeah, it's silly. Yeah. But you can see, it's like you guys are friends. It's fun. And you guys got gelled with each other. You know, you gel. Yeah, it's silly. Yeah. But you can see it's like you guys are friends. It's fun. That's like a big thing, man. You know, and I think people underestimate that. It's one of the reasons why these TV shows sometimes are so stale and flat. They're stiff, yeah.

Well, they don't like each other. They're not friends with each other. You know? People like when they see people who actually, like Goldberg and I, like when we used to do broadcasts together, Goldberg's my friend. I really like that guy. And John Anik, same thing. Anik's my friend.

Dominic Cruz is my friend. I hang out with that guy. He's interesting. Paul Felder, I could hang out with these guys. That's big, man. That's why people like these kind of podcasts. That's why people like these kind of podcasts, that's why people like anything where people get together and they can hang out and you feel like a real camaraderie

versus like entertainment tonight. Thor is back, and boy, is he angry. Yes, he is, Mike. Thor is back, and the newest, most amazing version of Thor. Let's take a look. Like, those people don't, even if they are friends, you can't tell. Yeah, it's unwatchable, and it's unlistenable, and it doesn't feel... It feels like

nothing you can connect to. It's not silly. I don't know anybody I speak to like that. Exactly. No one's gonna tell each other to shut up on that show. I wonder if... With Wonder Woman now at the forefront of sports and technology and... Shut the fuck up. Yeah.

It's annoying. They have, have like these pre-scheduled scheduled promos that they do that feel so stale and everything's just stale that's why even on tv i go back and watch old dick cabbage shit like interviewing bishop prior in 1985 i'd rather hear a real conversation with dead moments yeah then then like a late night tv show now where everybody thinks they're on fire every time the cameras are on. It's terrible. It's most of them, these like entertainment shows, like shows on entertainment. Like, poof, that's hard to get right. Well, it used to be that the networks had all the power and there wasn't ever a content problem. It wasn't like, damn, we need content.

There was slots. There's Thursday 8.30, Thursday 9 o'clock. Those slots, there's just those slots. That's it. We got plenty of motherfuckers trying to make pilots. That's never a problem with content. Now, it's the opposite. Now they need content so

more people can get their shit out now. It used to be totally controlled. TV has always sucked. You can't watch 80. We watch TV shows that we grew up on because we had no choice. I would watch TV going Okay, what's the the best of this these terrible shows? I'll just watch that you're like fucking But we just don't think some of them were good back then too, right?

No, I think about the fall guy. Come on Watch the fall guy now TV didn't have to be good. You're right. They had all the control. Now, shit. It has to be good. And now you need content. The $6 million man.

It's a whole different world. I just love that. The Sasquatch episode where he fought the Bigfoot. Douchiest thing ever on television. I couldn't wait to watch that. TV sucks. Oh, this is a good fight. Gamaru Usman and Sergio Moraes.

This is a great fucking fight. Yeah. Gamaru Usman is a stud wrestler. Fucking serious athlete. And Moraes. This is a great fucking fight. Kamaru Usman is a stud wrestler. Fucking serious athlete. And Moraes is one of the best jiu-jitsu guys in MMA today. Yeah, for sure. Tapped out Krohn Gracie in his first black belt match. He's legit.

He's the guy that set up that mounted triangle, right? Nice and slow. Yeah. You know what he said once about one of his opponents? He said said it would be more likely that he got me pregnant than submit me he was talking about the improvements in his striking he's like in striking i think i have the advantage and on the ground it would be more likely that he got me pregnant than he submit me that's how badass that motherfucker is But Kamaru Usman is a stud He is super legit

Fantastic wrestler With really good striking Very strong guy Very dangerous Could be future superstar World champion guy He seems like the type of guy you have to take out Against Leon Edwards

Edwards is actually doing really well against him It seemed like in the first round And then once he had him on the ground He was finished Usman's a savage. He's so good. Well, how does he finish people? What do you got to watch out for?

Smashes them. Ground and pound. Vicious wrestler. He can do everything, man. He can submit guys. He's good at jiu-jitsu, too? Yeah, he's, you know, he's a super stud wrestler, but he absolutely can do all that stuff. What are his best submissions?

He's an American top team guy. So he's, like, a black belt in jiu-jitsu? No, I wonder what he is in jiu-jitsu. I wonder, like, if he's ranked. But there's a lot of guys that aren't ranked, like Michael Chiesa. Michael Chiesa, in my mind, is like a black belt. But he's not even ranked. Should that fight have been stopped, you think?

No, definitely not. Never. You don't stop chokes. Why would you stop a choke? You let a guy go to sleep. So his objection was fair. If the guy's unconscious, he was clearly not unconscious. Guys get out of shit. You gotta give if the guy's unconscious. He was clearly not unconscious. Guys get out of shit. You got to give him an opportunity to get out of shit. His arms were like this, man. Yeah, I've heard both. You're right. You're right. Yamasaki stopped it because he knows the next move. Yamasaki stopped it early. Yes. He should have let him go out. Yes. Yes.

But 100 percent Yamasaki, everybody, any black belt knows when a guy's about to go out. Before he goes out, his hands go like this, and that's what happens. And a lot of times, if you let go of the choke, you pop right back up and say you're all right. You're totally correct. But he should have let him go to sleep. Should have let him go to sleep. And here's the other thing. This is absolutely also possible, too. Some guys, when they're getting choked, they will concentrate just on their neck, and they will tighten up their neck.

And they won't do this and fight around with it. They will literally put all their energy and concentration on their neck and avoiding the choke by just squeezing and holding on their neck. If they think they have a little bit of blood flow, if they can force a little bit of blood flow, and they think that they can stay conscious longer than the guy can squeeze. I don't buy it for the long haul. I think on the long haul, a guy like, you know, someone who's a really good fighter,

like a Damien Maia guy, he's going to fucking put you to sleep. You can't do that on him. Right. The question is, can he do it on Kevin Lee? Kevin Lee. But even, but would your arms go that limp, though? He's very good. Your arms go that limp, though, even when you're tightening your neck.

Yeah, but he's not limp if he's doing this, okay? This is, his arms are here, right? So if he's concentrating on his neck, his arms are here. If he really does decide to stop doing this and just try to just concentrate on his neck, it's not a good strategy, but it might be something you would use if you thought you were fucked. Right. If you thought you were fucked, you're in a really bad spot, and you really can't peel his arms off, and you go, you know what, I might be able to just power through.

And he might not. He might have had a tap, or he might have went to sleep, or he might have gotten out. We don't peel his arms off. And you go, you know what? I might be able to just power through. And he might not. He might have had a tap or he might have went to sleep. Or he might have gotten out. We don't fucking know. Right. Because guys have gotten out of some crazy shit. In fact, earlier that night. There was a woman who got out, right?

She looked like she was gone. Who was she? Fuck, I forget that fight. What was that fight? Find out what the card was on the Kevin Lee Michael Chiesa fight. But the point is it's not dangerous. It's not like an armbar or taking punishment on the ground. Like when someone takes a couple

extra shots on the ground that aren't necessary that's bad. But if someone gets choked out, that's not bad. It's not bad. You gotta let them get choked out. You're not preventing any damage. Glenn, who just that fight that should have been stopped on the, I want

to say it was one of the prelims. Gavin Tucker? Yeah, Gavin Tucker and Rick Glenn. Against Rick Glenn. That was bad. Horrible. I saw Dana tweeting. I hadn't seen the fight yet. He's like, this referee sucks. And then when I watched the fight, I'm like, this must have been the fight he was talking about. Well, you know what the thing is? It was a slow beating. Rick was giving him a slow beating. He just kept

beating him up. There was no giant, big bombs. But it was an accumulation beating. Rick was giving him a slow beating. He just kept beating him up. It was no giant big bombs, but it was an accumulation of bombs that never ended. He was so workmanlike and professional. It was a very, very impressive victory. Is that why he didn't get,

I thought he should have got like a fight of the night or a performance of the night. I mean, I thought that that was pretty amazing and he didn't get anything for that. Which were the girls

that almost choked the shit out of each other? Was it Felice Herrig and Justine Kush? Yes, it was. Was that? Justine Kush and Felice Herrig. Is that the choked the shit out of each other? Was it Felice Herrig and Justine Kush? Yes, it was. Justine Kish and Felice Herrig. Is that the fight where she shit or no? Who won that?

I believe Felice did, right? When did that happen? Yeah, Felice won unanimous decision. Last week? No, that was a couple months ago. Was that the fight that Kish had that she shit? Allegedly shit herself. Oh, whatever happened, yeah.

I don't know if she did or not. Supposedly, that can be grounds to stop a fight now. It's like in the rules. If you shit yourself, it's too dangerous because there's all scratches and shit. If you have cuts, you can get the worst staph infection known to man. Plus, you may make a move to avoid being put in that that's going to put you in other kind of danger.

Just because you want your face mushed in that, you may do something that puts avoid being put in that that's going to put you in other kind of danger. Like, just because you want your face mushed in that, you may do something that puts your neck in jeopardy. That's a very good point. If someone's going 69 on you, if you're in like north-south position,

which is a legit position, and this dude just shit himself, that's super rude. Yeah, yeah, that's a bad place to be. But hey, man, it's life and death in there.

Kamaru Usman, here we go. Look at that. This is a good fucking fight. This is like a, ooh, what's going to happen here fight. Dan Mergliata. Dan slimming down. Yeah, he's only 500 pounds now.

That guy's gigantic. How tall is he? Huge. He's like at least 6'5". And he's not like a tall, thin guy either. He's a giant. For real though, he's probably 300 pounds. Easy.

Very interesting fight here. He's 170. Oh, yeah. 4'51 of the first round. 50, 49, 48, 47, if you want to sync it up with us. 42, 41. Marais is missing a tricep on his left arm. You know, Sarah's got one missing. Oh, no, he's got a bicep missing. Yeah. What happened missing a tricep on his left arm. You know, Sarah's got one missing.

Oh, no, he's got a bicep missing. Yeah. What happened to the tricep? His arm tore and he never got surgery on it. Or if he got surgery, it never came back. But look, you can see he doesn't really have a tricep on his left arm. Oh, he got hurt. He got hurt to the bottom.

Oh, shit. He's in a lot of trouble. He's in a lot of trouble. He's in a lot of trouble. He won't get on top of him. Look at that. He's hurt and he's on his back and he won't get on top of him. Yeah, but that's smart. Like, make him stand up if you're tooling off on him. But he's on his back. It's suicide. Yeah, but on his back

he might have a chance to do something. Standing up, he's getting tooled. I'm agreeing with you, Joe. I'm just... It's smart. It's interesting. Yeah, it's smart. I mean, wouldn't you tell him that I'm just... It's smart. It's interesting. Yeah, it's smart. I mean, wouldn't you tell him that if you were Kamaru's coach? Fuck yeah.

You're like, don't go on the ground with this guy. Let up. Kick his calf. Because isn't there that chance he's just going to wrap his arms around you and catch his breath? Oh, 100%. Hell yeah, he might sweep you. You might think he's more tired than he is. He might recover quicker than you think.

Next thing you know, he's got deep half on you. Next thing you know, ooh, he's swinging. He might have a better shot on his back than he does standing. Hey, how long before someone starts doing side kicks and front kicks to the calves and to the shins? How long before a shin kick comes back like in school? Remember when that hurt like a motherfucker? Kids would kick kids in the shins yeah but i think after that that silver wyman fight it's gonna break your toes yeah but not if you curl your foot back in a like a front kick

oh shit it's a legal kick right i think it's legal if you could side kick the thigh if you could uh wheel kick the head how how is anything to like illegal it's hilarious right yeah we well and almost i mean how many people that get hit on the back of the head that's one thing i was noticing about boxing tonight guys will complain while they're in the middle of an exchange if a punch hits the back of their head they touch the back of their head like hey you're cheating you're hitting me back here don't fucking hit me back here it's almost like an excuse for getting hit at all you never see that in the ufc in stand up you never see guys complaining about getting hit in the back of the head you hear

about it on the ground you know like you hear about like sometimes when a guy's trying to finish someone they'll hit them all over the place and sometimes they'll hit the head whether it's on purpose or not they only know but up, you never hear about it. Well, did you think that referee was pretty tall? Oh, he's out. He's out. Oh, shit. Wow.

That was sensational. I told you, Kamaru Usman is legit. That dude is seriously talented. Standing up was a smart move. Yeah, he could be the one. That guy could be A legit world champion I believe he's undefeated too

He has one loss Who's his loss to? It was like It was his second fight or something I think he's on a long A long winning streak Who's his loss to, Jamie? Kamaru Usman

I'm a problem, he says Oh man, for some reason I thought he was Like Nigerian He is Nigerian But he came when he was, like, Nigerian. He is Nigerian, but he came when he was young. I asked him that. Serious wrestler.

Serious athlete. Look at that back. Dude, everything. That's so thick. His speed. And the thing is, man, he didn't even start out as a striker. Jose Caceres. He wrestled in college? He got submitted way back in CFA 11 in his second pro fight.

Boom. Dude, look at the speed on that shit. What about this shot? Oh, take that, dude. Is that Dan just giving this guy an extra second to see if he can get back up? Oh, man. Dan steps back. Look, he stopped.

His eyes rolled back. I just wanted to see if the guy was conscious because if he rolled and then he was looking at him and he had his hands up, he would have let it go. Great stoppage. Great stoppage. That was perfect. So you don't think it should have been stopped before that punch? No, it's a violent sport. You know what? One extra punch. It's a violent sport. He could have stopped it but

he could have recovered. That was the perfect stoppage. You got to let it play out a little bit. And it's hard to do. Dan's one of the best in the business though. He's so good. You very rarely have complaints about Dan Mergliata. Fighters hate, all fighters hate Dan stopped early, you know? They all do.

Gavin Tucker actually said that. He thanked that referee for giving him a chance. But that's just a guy who's too tough for his own good. That was his first loss, though. I mean, he's a really tough dude, and, like, there was no way he was going to quit. But isn't his, like, orbital socket all fucked up? I mean, he's going to have a lot of things wrong with him. He got beat up real bad.

It was a bad beating. He took a beating for, I mean, the first round, it took a while before it got sort of lopsided. But then from the second round on, it was pretty obvious that Rick Glenn wasn't getting tired. And he was just pushing this crazy steady pace, and just Gavin could not keep up with him. And Rick was long and he couldn't get close to him.

And Rick just had this very workmanly approach, just kept on him. And the dude just started breaking. Just a guy who knows, like a guy who's been around for a long time, at least the way Frankie Edgar beat up on Yaya Rodriguez, a guy who's been around for a long time who knows how to beat the hot young guy coming up.

Well, Frankie Edgar's on a totally different level because Frankie can keep this ferocious pace that so few people can keep up with. Like, Yair thought he might keep up with it. He thought, like, maybe when I get in there, I'll be able to scramble this guy. I'll be able to keep up with him. My ground game's pretty good.

Probably worked on getting back up to his feet. Probably thought, I'll surprise him. I'll surprise him. And when we're kicking, standing up, he's not going to be able to deal with my shit. He just realized there's levels to this thing. Frankie Edgar is on that world championship level. Is that what he's thinking probably is? Like there's no way Frankie's going to get close enough to me?

I'm going to be able to keep him away from me? Well, or catch him coming in. Or Frankie might try to exchange with him on the feet. He has a chance to land something. Or maybe his takedown defense is better than you know frankie thinks it is there's a lot of thoughts that go into your head when you try to pull something like that off but it was if you were his manager there's not it's not the fight to make it's just not the fight it's the one of the worst fights to make i mean it's good to find out how you do against an elite wrestler but not the elite wrestler the guy who

is a lightweight world champion. Now he's coming down to 145, but the only guy that's been able to beat him is Aldo. That's a decision, I think, right? Yeah. I mean, Frankie's goddamn world class. Aldo might have his number. I don't know, but that doesn't mean that Frankie can't beat

a lot of guys. He fucked up Cub Swanson. He's world championship level, But sometimes guys, just for whatever reason, can't beat another guy. Joe Frazier was always a world championship level boxer. Could not beat George Foreman. If they fought 100 times, George Foreman would have beat him 100 times. Yeah, and that's got to get into your head after a while. I mean, Jones, Cormier only twice and plus all the stuff that happened. But there is always that one guy that you

just can't do anything against. Jones, Cormier only twice and plus all the stuff that happened. But there is always that one guy that you just can't do anything against. There's guys that have a solution to your style. Do you remember Sugar Shane Mosley? Sure. Vernon Forrest. Vernon Forrest just had this solution to Sugar Shane Mosley.

I believe he beat him twice. And it was like one of those things where Vernon didn't look the best. Rest in peace. He got shot, actually. It's a terrible story, man. Someone was trying to rob his car. He tried to stop someone from robbing his car, and they shot him.

The gas station in Atlanta, is that the guy I'm thinking of? Yeah. Didn't he chase the guys, too? He chased them, and they fucking popped them? Yeah. And apparently, he was a super nice guy. Yeah.

It's just a really sad story. But he could shine against Shane in a way that he couldn't shine Against other people Yeah But then like Ricardo Mayorga Knocked him out Remember

I believe that I don't remember the fight I believe Mayorga Knocked him out Definitely beat him I believe I actually met Shane Mosley At one of my first UFC events

He was there I want to say it's 2008 2009 It might have been a rampage fight 2009 It's weird to watch boxers and those things and how they react. It is weird, right? Watching Bernard Hopkins.

I sat behind Bernard Hopkins. And you know he had critical things to say. A bunch of guys rolling around. It looks gay. And then watching him and his trainers watch the guys on the ground. They're watching the stand-up. They were fine. But what they really got impressed with was the stuff on the ground.

Because that's the stuff you can't do. So it was interesting to watch him kind of watch his opinion change as he was there. Right. Yeah, I mean, they have to talk. The problem is there's like these camps, like, look at that. Boom! Look at that right hand. Good lord,

that was clean. Like, you see him shaking his head, he's totally out of it there. Look at that timing on this. Oh, that's so good uh but you know people just get lumped off into camps like what sports better that's it's so silly yeah it's so silly because boxing at its highest level like tonight well we're gonna watch and just hopefully like five or ten minutes they're walking out now now. Oh, shit. That is very compelling. Do you know,

that's one of the main differences right there, what you just saw Usman do. That's one of the main differences between UFC and every sport is the way the fighters treat the fans and interact with the fans.

Yeah. You just don't see that in any other sport. No, it's true. And there's a lot of events where people get to meet fighters. They do a lot of events, a lot of signings and shit.

You can go meet them and hang out with them. And you get invested in them and you get connected to them so then when they're on the prelims or the undercard, you still want to watch them fight. Yeah. There's a lot of good things. The UFC figured out that boxing had fucked up

and now boxing has kind of picked up the slack in a lot of ways. Rob Font, powerful Rob Font. He's Mark Delgrate's student very talented guy and they also figured out giving you the fights that you want to see

yep like just give you the fights don't make it wait five years like we did with Tyson Holyfield just put the fight together make it happen

you don't have ten different promoters working on it yeah it's hard to do that with boxing you know sure I mean this Canelo

Gennady Golovkin fight this is a unification middleweight title fight let's hard to do that with boxing, you know? Sure. I mean, this Canelo-Garnady Golovkin fight, this is a unification middleweight title fight. Let's go to it right now. It's very fucking hard to get these things to pull off. It's all the behind-the-scenes people. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. I gotta pee real quick.

You think the bathroom's safe now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gave it the mandatory hour. Yeah, it's a good hour. All right, let me try to find this. Jamie, where am I supposed to point this fucking thing? In there. Oh, that side.

Okay, now it's working. Big fight for Branch. Huge, dude. That they give him Luke Rockhold? That's kind of crazy. Is this his first fight in the UFC? No. No, he used to be in the UFC a while back.

And then, I guess I'm going to have to keep doing this. So, 219 Yeah, it's not working. 123 maybe. Okay, hang on a sec. This is the most boring part of the podcast ever. What did you just ask me?

David Branch. David Branch. He fought Gerald Harris way back in the day. He got slammed and KO'd. This is like his first fight in the UFC. He was in Gerald Harris' guard and he slammed him and knocked him out cold.

So it was a good fight up until that moment but he was in his guard. He was trying to work his guard and he got body slammed. And got knocked out from it. He got picked up in the guard like a Rona rampage? Gerald Harris is a stud. He didn't get picked up that high. It wasn't like that.

That's the craziest shit of all time. That wasn't the guard. That was a triangle. Triangle, yeah. So all that extra leverage. Think of that crazy extra. You get higher. Dude, that's terrifying.

That's the most terrifying slam of all time. Fuck yeah. We watched that the other day. You did the most terrifying slam of all time. Fuck yeah. We watched that the other day. You did? Yeah, we watched the head. The head collide as he slams into the ground, and you see Rampage's head smash into Arona's head. Dude.

Yeah. Nobody can slam people like Rampage slammed people. All right, folks. So Gennady Golovkin just walked out. Look at all those belts. Motherfucker has a lot of belts. Wasn't he on like a 23 or 24 first round knockout streak too? Something preposterous.

This last decision? Yeah. Something preposterous. Not first round knockout. They're both champions. Who's heavier? Well, Gennady Golovkin's been fighting at a heavier weight class. And Canelo fought Floyd Mayweather, I think, at 152.

And I think earlier in his career he fought lighter than that, I believe. Wasn't that way earlier, too, though, for him? Yes, yes. He was a young guy when he went pro, like real young. What's that? 23 straight. He had 23 straight KOs? In the first round.

Gennady Golovkin did? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah, 23 straight KOs. But then he went to – I don't think they were all in the first round. Oh, nokin did Is that what you're saying Yeah 23 straight KOs But then he went to I don't think they were on the first round No Okay

I'm just adding to his legend For no reason Most of them He would break guys down Over a few rounds Think about how that Mayweather fight All the hype and the promo How it blew him up

He's like From that fight He's like a national hero Canelo Canelo was already a national hero Not quite as big as he is now Yeah, I guess the Mayweather fight made a big but when just beat the shit out of Julio Cesar Chavez jr. That's terrible That was terrible fight. That was sad to watch. Yeah, my mom didn't know who Canelo was before that Mayweather fight now

She worships him. I don't love the dad either to be on my mom as Mexican as it gets Isn't it sad to watch a guy like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. fight a guy like Canelo? Like, you could tell one of them. I missed it. Oh, dude. I thought he was supposed to be good. He wasn't in the family business. He is good.

He's good. He's just not that good? No. Did he get knocked out? No, he got beat up. He went into a defensive shell. He just stopped firing back at all. He was just getting tooled on.

You know what he reminded me of? The kid in the bed and his bears. Remember the kid when he had his hold on the ball and he's so pissed off at his father and his father slapped bears Remember the kid When he had his Holding the ball And he's so pissed off At his father And his father Slapped him in the face And he won't throw

The ball home That's what he reminded me of During that fight Just like fucking Just kind of standing there Letting it happen It was hard to watch man I was like

This kid doesn't need To be doing this Like he doesn't really Want to do it Didn't it seem like He didn't want to fight? Yeah he definitely Didn't want to fight

You think he had Like a panic attack? No I just think He realized that there was Just a level of commitment That Canelo possesses That he just doesn't want to fight him. You think he had, like, a panic attack? No, I just think he realized that there was just a level of commitment that Canelo possesses that he just doesn't. And he knew it in the, um, there's, like, tells in their interviews. Like, Max Kellman does a very nice interview when he sits down with two fighters

and he sits in between of them and he asks them questions and they'll ask him questions and they have this, like, translate thing back and forth. But you could see, like, psychologically canelo had a big advantage over him you know canelo was just saying look you know his his fight career has been a disgrace i fought the best of the best and uh he is you know his father was amazing and he was an incredible world champion but uh he's just never lived up to the hype and you could see like you know he was like well i will know yeah it's not a good comeback

i'm gonna know that's a very poor comeback was he good though was he like before canelo he's always been good he's always been a very good fighter no he's he's lost to some fighters like maybe one or two i can't remember how many people he's talking about but he's one of the best he's just he just can't he can't get that belt he, I think, a few years ago. But he's always been a very good fighter. He's not a bad fighter. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. knows how to fight, for sure. He's just not at this guy's level.

But do you think it's because their fathers are both... I'm thinking about Marvis Frazier, too. When you grow up with boxing money, it's a little harder to be motivated than a guy like that. For sure. You don't have that kind of confidence, that kind of mean streak. It's not a coincidence that so many of these guys grow up in impoverished situations. But here's the thing.

Jon Jones, I don't think, grew up in. I mean, his family's still together. I think he had a comfortable financial childhood. I might be wrong about that. But, I mean, his family's all together. So it's, it doesn't, like, some guys are just better at it. Yeah, but I think there's much

more the other way than there are guys who grew up comfortably. There's some, like Bill Lambert, they said he grew up pretty comfortable and wealthy and was still, like, the biggest animal on the court. It can totally happen. You could have a kid that has all the money in the world but they just have some psychotic drive where they just want to be the best at something.

They want to prove they're not pussies. It could be that or it could just be there's people that just really love testing themselves. They just really love competing and you get a few steps ahead, right? You do it for a little bit and then you really start getting into it and then you get into it more and then it becomes you. It becomes your favorite

thing to do. It becomes your identity like even if you grew up with money you could still become obsessed with something sure and if you could become obsessed by being the best at anything it's possible it's just not as likely it's way more likely when it's a poor kid they grow up you know with a sense of urgency you grow up with uh like this knowledge in your head that hey man it might not always be okay like there could be a real bad time and a lot of times your motive for going after it is different too because you really do remember what it's like to have absolutely nothing so your motive is to

avoid that again yeah that's a very powerful thing it is a very powerful thing and you can't fake that by the way boxing is too much shit in the ring there's just too much business happening in the fucking ring. Stop it. Look at all these people in here. It's very unnecessary. There's 30 people in there. It's kind of like that in music, too, because the thought is that you have to grow up in the same kind of situation, you know,

impoverished, or like just a serious, broken family, lack of love. But then you have Chris Martin, the singer from Coldplay, He breaks the mold. It's like valedictorian, brought up with money, and just a happy life. He just wouldn't like making music. Yeah, exactly.

Bayless, that's, by the way, the referee, I think, who was shitting on Conor and Floyd fighting. Who'd want to see that? It's two different sports. Kenny Bayless did that? I'm pretty sure that's the ref that they did not want. Oh, that's funny. Well, you know, a lot of boxing people, like I was saying before, they want to defend boxing.

They want to be on team boxing. And honestly, I played a part of that a little bit when I had this thing with Lou DiBella. That's right. You were very good in that, by the way. Well, it felt like it was pretty easy. Yeah. He wasn't making very good arguments. It was terrible arguments.

The other problem is, I mean, you know, if I really went to war with somebody, I said, yeah, I got that guy. It was a terrible argument, and I'm a fan. Like, that's the dumb part. I'm a fan of boxing. Sure. And I probably know a lot. I bet if he and I sat down and we just started talking about classic fights, Hagler-Hearns, you know, Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Durant,

he would realize really quickly, I'm a legit boxing fan. I fucking love boxing. How many rounds did Hagler-Hearns go? Was that three? Yes. Who did he draw with? Hagler? Oh, Canelo?

I don't know. He had that fight with Mayweather, though, where Mayweather just, Mayweather did a genius thing. First of all, he made him cut a lot of weight, made him get down to 152, drained him up a little bit. And then, you know, he caught him before he reached the level that he's at now. Like, when he fought Amir Khan, he fucked Amir Khan up, dude, with a haymaker of a right hand. And, you know, when he landed that bomb and put Amir Khan to sleep, you gotta go, okay, this is a guy that's now at the fucking peak of his game.

So when he fought Mayweather, Mayweather caught him right when he was getting into it. You know, right when he was coming up. And that Mayweather fight, I think, took him over the top. When you fight a guy that's slick and is talented and fucking fast and the timing that Mayweather has, you realize there's levels to this thing. Is Golovkin fighting it the way he normally fights it? Yes, this is his weight, man. He's the king. This guy's a beast.

I know. The guys behind him look exactly like him, too. The good thing about this fight is, what's interesting is Golovkin, some experts believe that he might be slipping slightly. And Canelo is coming up. And the idea is that a year ago, Golovkin would have fucked Canelo up. This is what a lot of people believe. But now Canelo's better and Golovkin might have faded a little bit. What's the age difference?

I think Golovkin is, he's older for sure, but I think he's 35. See if you can find that young Jamie. I want to say he's 35 or 36. Yeah, Canelo's 27. Oh, he's younger than him. Golovkin is what? 34? I think he's younger than 36.

35. 35, okay. So, yeah, so that's like the last, unless he's juicing, that's the last of the squeeze. Eight years, yeah. When you're around, no, but I mean when you're around 35. Like that's when the decline happens

to almost everybody right 36 it slips 37 slips more 39, 40 very rarely see a 40 year old champion that's not on the sauce

yeah I mean that's why Randy Couture was such an amazing I mean it's really why Bernard Hopkins was the most impressive Hopkins Jesus yeah

he went into his 50s yeah and he still was outboxing world class fighters And dropping them He got fucked up by Joe Smith But Joe Smith is a monster Was that his final fight where he got knocked through the ring?

How old is he now? 52 or 53 And he was 50 when he last fought I think he was 51 or 52 He's perfectly coherent Here we go Round 1 ladies and gentlemen. Eddie Bravo, prediction?

I'm going to go with the Mexican. Dude, you got to go with your people. I understand. Norton? I got to go with Golovkin. Have to. Yeah. Because he's white?

Absolutely. I feel like either one of these motherfuckers could shock the world. Is Kazakhstan considered white? Well, yeah. I mean, it's definitely white if you go to a black neighborhood and try to say the N-word. That's all you need to know. Are you white? Well, can you get away with being in a black neighborhood and using the N-word? Do you have that type of credibility or do you not?

If you're Wesley Snipes Stark, you can get away with using it anywhere in the world, right? Sure. So Canelo's white? Canelo is actually Mexican, but he's got red fucking hair. It's crazy. Freckles. But if Kazakhstan is considered white, then why wouldn't Canelo be considered white? He is white, for sure. I mean, he's Russian. Or, you know, part of the former Soviet Union. That's right by China. Well, you know, a lot of these people have Mongolian in them a lot of these people is that why they're well No, it's like an Asian but it's that's Genghis Khan

I mean Genghis Khan they I think they said some insane number like 5% of all the men in Asia or all the people in Asia Have Genghis Khan's genes Jesus He's dumping loads all over the place. Fucked everybody and killed everyone. Killed like, you know, they don't even know how many millions, but somewhere between 20 and 70 million people died directly by his hand. You know what his daughter was named? Which one? Shaka.

Shaka Khan. I feel for you. I met her in a falafel place in New York Me and Godfrey chased her down the street and ran into me Oh my god Look at this 1 in 200 of the whole population of the world Is directly descended from Genghis Khan

Look at that Oh my god What years was he Was he alive It was like the 1200s It's basically 100% of China Oh dude this is a great fight huh What years was he alive? It was like the 1200s, I think. That's basically 100% of China. Yeah.

Oh, dude, this is a great fight, huh? Golovkin just double jabbed him. Ooh. That's a strong jab. That might be a big factor. He's used that jab before on guys and shocked them and outboxed them. Lemieux, he did that with. He came out and started popping him with the jab,

and a lot of people didn't expect that. He can outbox the shit out of people. He caught him. Yeah. Uppercut. Oh, shit. Yeah, those are blocked, though. Nothing's happening there.

Those are getting blocked. The jab is what you got to keep an eye on. Or the counter right hand of Canelo, too. He's a lot bigger. Who? Triple G. Yeah,elo, too. He's a lot bigger. Who? Triple G. Yeah, he is bigger. He's taller.

See how that jab keeps landing? His face is fucked up, and it's the first round. He's getting lit up with that straight jab. He's shaking his hand out. He's got a little attitude. He's shaking it a lot, yeah. Well, he gets angry at people and starts talking shit to them, and he puts his hands down and lets them punch him in the face.

When he was breaking this one dude down, as he was breaking him down, he put his hands down, started walking towards him, letting the guy punch him, just moving his hands slightly, and then fucking digs in on him. He's a mean guy, man. How mean? Yeah, he's mean. Isn't the psychology of that amazing, though?

When you drop your hands, a lot of times guys won't react immediately because there's a schoolyard humiliation of a guy doing that and you missing. It's really weird to watch professional fighters not always just go right in when someone's hands are down. Well, let me help you out with that. There's also a reason. When you drop your hands, you don't know where the punches are coming from. It's a different thing.

Like, it's very tricky. When someone drops their hands, you have to be very careful because things can come from anywhere. It's one of the reasons why Tommy Hearns when he jabbed he kept his hand down here and pop it up in your face it's you don't see it as much you don't see it as quick someone standing right here and you see this and you see that you see the hands a little bit more there it's a traditional pattern that you understand when someone has their hands down low

and they start right in their head shit can come wild from all over the place how many cards has a triple G headline only a few it's been mostly like an hbo fighter but because his his pay-per-views didn't sell well like one of them only sold like gannotti golovkin i forget who he fought but he was like 150 000 buys it's unfortunate because he's fucking like marvelous in there i mean who's the two best guys he beat? Kell Brook. Kell Brook's very good, and he broke him down. White guy?

No, he's a black guy from England. Really bad ass. World champion at a lighter weight. He was world champion, I believe, at welterweight, and he came up. Oh, look at this. Canelo. I don't like all that. It's a lot of wasted energy right there.

A little too much emotion. I mean, he roostered him. Got behind him. That's a lot of energy he just right there. A little too much emotion. I mean, he like roostered him. Got behind him. That's a lot of energy he just blew there. That happened a lot too in Connor. Yeah. Made with a lot. I think that was different though, you know.

Yeah. These guys are way more identical in terms of skill and career. But I'm seeing Golovkin get the better of these exchanges. They both jabbed each other at the same time. Stiff. You know, the age could really be a factor. You know, Canelo's never really taken a beating. He only had one fight that he lost,

and that was that fight with Mayweather. And he really didn't get beat up in that fight. He just got outboxed. Was that a decision? Yeah, unanimous, clear. Mayweather just showed him what's up. But he didn't knock him up in that fight. He just got outboxed. Was that a decision? Yeah. Unanimous. Clear. Mayweather just showed him what's up. But he didn't knock him out.

You know what I mean? It's like Canelo's beating the fuck out of some really good fighters. He's a super dangerous puncher. And Golovkin has been in way more wars than Canelo has. Canelo's figured out a way to avoid wars and just put it on people. It's just fucking really good, man. This is, for boxing, this is like as good as it gets. Yeah, it is.

Because Canelo's still getting better. You know, ooh, that's a sweet jab. I mean, he's 27 now, and this fight is going to make him better, too. You know, he's only 27. Golovkin, if Canelo managed to KO him, and he's 35, could be the end, You know, he's only 27. Golovkin, if Canelo managed to KO him and he's 35, could be the end,

you know, or at least the beginning of the end. He's not 25, but Canelo almost is. And part of the appeal is that he's 37 and 0. There's something

about undefeated fighters. I like those three G's on his belt. That's huge. Yeah, that's dope. Well, he's undefeated for a reason, man. He's a fucking master.

Yeah, Gucci should sponsor him. Ah, that's right. We want two of your Gs. Or the Freemasons. Just the other one put over your dick. Just put our Gs up top, and then your G over the dick. Hublot, the watch company, sponsored his dick.

Look. Isn't that funny that people care about that? Yeah. his dick. Look. Isn't that funny that people care about that? Yeah. Like that the UFC didn't want that. A lot of people felt like they see too much of that on boxer shorts.

It bothers them. I don't even notice it. Does it even help with sales or does it just get into your psyche and you don't even realize it's in there? It's a good question. I remember back in the day, cigarette companies used to sponsor fighters. Like boxers. Used to have cigarette companies on their shorts forget who did that you know what it might have been my Orga

Then who the fuck had a cigarette company sponsored them cigarette company sponsored boxers Do you ever see the old where they would sponsors cartoons and they would show Fred smoking a Winston like they would have like fucking I hate that show Flintstones. You hate the Flintstones? It fucking makes me sick. Despise Fred Flintstone. Why? I don't know. I just always hated them. Why? It's a weird one.

I'm not a big cartoon guy but that one I particularly hate. Look at that left hook to the body son. Woo! Boom! Golovkin with a crisp straight right. Look at that left hook to the body, son. Woo! Boom. Golovkin with a crisp straight right. This is as good as it gets for boxing, man. It really is. You know, you got a guy in Golovkin, undefeated, 35-0.

Been blasting everybody, wanting that big fight. And then Quirinello Alvarez, this proud superstar, steps up, wants this fight, and just, they knew the fight. They both called each other out. They both wanted, I mean, Canelo's always said he wanted to fight the very best. He's bleeding. Glovkin, it looks like he's, there's a cut under his right eye. Oh, left hook, and then another one behind it.

Wow. God damn, Golovkin's good. God damn, he's good. He landed some shots there, man. Woo! That was an interesting combination, the way he threw the left hook and then threw it again. A surprising left hook, the second left hook in particular. He's forcing this kid to box with him, I mean, to slug with him.

That's his style of fight. Canelo's a really good counter-striker. And what's going on here now is Golovkin is just really coming to him and Canelo's this is like a perfect fight in a lot of ways this is like the kind of fight you would hope but does Canelo want to stand there with him and trade

punches? Well he wants a counter strike but I mean Golovkin's going to come towards him so he has his opportunities I mean it's a brilliant fight like as far as, like, what, you know, stylistically, it's perfect. Has Golovkin ever even really been in trouble in a fight? Not really. He's been punched a lot, though. Never been dropped?

No, I don't believe so. I've never even seen him, like, stunned. He did have a really good fight in his last fight. Can you put Golovkin's record up so I can remember homeboy's name? He's had a couple of very good fights where, you know, people are coming to him very, you know, enthusiastic. Who was the last fight he fought? Sherman was the last?

Daniel Jacobs. Oh, Daniel Jacobs. Daniel Jacobs is the one. That guy, that was a really close fight. Awesome, awesome fight. But it was a unanimous decision for Gennady Golovkin, but Daniel Jacobs is fucking for real. White guy?

Black guy. Black guy. He's super good. So it was like, it was a big win. And, you know, everybody could tell watching the fight that Jacobs is super legit. I mean, we already knew it coming in, but. So, even though he didn't knock him out, it's still, he still won.

Damn, Canelo's fierce. Fierce. Both guys are fierce. Oh, that left hook to the body by Canelo. They're both so good, man. Oh, that uppercut. Damn. See, and then the other thing you got to think of is age, man.

The reality of age. 35 with some wars behind him versus 27 with really no wars. Just smashing a lot of people. Real good trainer. He's been the same trainer since he was a kid. What are you showing me, Jamie? What's going on? Is that the UFC?

Yeah. Oh, my God. You're amazing. How come we can't put it on that TV? It's on my computer. Oh. We got to fix that. Who are these guys fighting?

Arm triangle. Look at that. Oh, Gregor Gillespie. Yeah, he's going under Jackal. Folks, we should be on Twitter at the same time. We should be periscoping this. Look at that arm triangle. I don't use any of those live.

Once in a while I go on Facebook. I know it's supposed to help, but I just can't do it. Yeah, sometimes it's too much. He keeps going back to the arm triangle. He lost it last time, and then he went back to it. He likes it. Oh, no, he lost it again. Look, he's going to underjack it again.

You go right back to it. Easy on us. He goes right back to it. Look at that. That's the shit. You could tell. I knew he was going to do it because he's so good at it. Look at that.

There's no way. He's going to wear him out. He's got to keep him in the chopping block right there. He's got to not try to finish him Just keep him in the chopping block. What do you think of that way of defending? That was a nice way? Damn, when you grab you know, no, that's the way you do it doing it the way he's doing it. Oh, he's out I'm anyway, he's gone. It's over. Yeah tap. What was that? What with the San Jose finished off Neil Magnum with? Yes, he did. Smushed him.

Round four. Here we go. This is too ADD having the UFC play here, too. Dude, you turned it on at the perfect time. That end, you rarely see an underjack battle in the UFC like that. That was a battle. He tried it three different times. You rarely see that. you don't ever see that

That's Gregor Gillespie. He's a piece of fucking beast man Gregor Gillespie yeah That's a bad motherfucker right there. He's a beast have some good mount strategies. He wasn't trying to beat him up He was trying to show shots in a body Oh, man, Canelo just hit him with a hard left hook to the body and go let's see if they show them These guys are going at it man. This is crazy This is a fucking war man, I mean like we're watching like an all-time classic boxing war right now Oh

Look at that jab That hit him. It looks like I missed him. I missed them did I hit him I popped him fast ooh Hmm Eddie Bravo, would you be watching this if it wasn't for us? Yes, because he's Mexican. Ah Did you know it's gonna start eight There we start around 8, 8.30 Well, not usually They start at like 9 They decided to start this one early

Just to make sure the people in the East Coast Look at that, ooh Golovkin with that jab You think that was the thinking too? Like let's make sure people in New York and Jersey and Florida can order this? Yeah, for sure That's what, oh dude This is distracting

Shit Yeah, for sure. That's what, oh, dude. Ooh. This is distracting. Shit. All right. It was a good idea at first, but. He just did that thing by the way, he dropped his arms a little bit too. Yeah. He's boxing him up. He shook his head. As soon as they shake their head no, that means yes.

Yeah, does that ever mean the guy isn't hurt when he shakes? Because why would you tell him you're not hurt? Well, it does, kind of, like you ain't got shit. You could say that a guy, but the problem is when someone actually hits you and really dings you and then you do it, like, never. Well, maybe the no is saying, no, you didn't knock me down, not this time. Maybe that's what he means. Maybe.

It doesn't seem like it. Mostly what it seems like, thou didn't hurt. Like, that ain't shit. You didn't get me No one ever says you didn't knock me down. Yeah, except in like a Jake LaMotta movie That was exactly a great close-up on the ring is trying to fuck you Jab in that counter right together. These guys are so well matched. Oh look at that tight left hook by Triple G. He's hurt Triple G. No Can hurt. Triple G? No Canelo. You think so?

Yeah. What makes you say that? Because he keeps going backwards into the ropes. That body shot that you were talking about, right when that landed, he looked at his eyes. He went, oh, shit. You might be right. You might be right. I keep forgetting these are three-minute rounds.

And no, they're weird right? yeah you get into it and you're like oh fuck the belt you know what's interesting about that? it's easier to go 5 minutes boxing than it is to go 3 minutes wrestling UFC is like 5 minute rounds and boxing is 3 minute rounds

they just got used to it but one thing though is if you give a shorter round there is a good argument for a shorter round that argument is guys can go faster and harder in three minutes than they can in five because they have to conserve themselves right do you feel like boxing over the last year is uh making a comeback or not for sure okay i think i think boxing is in a good place right it's making a little comeback yeah and it might have something to do with the fact that there's a rivalry going on between UFC and boxing.

What sport is better? I think it's bringing more attention to boxing by the UFC fans. They're paying attention to boxing because there's this debate. Yeah, maybe. It's a good idea. Maybe the UFC is blowing boxing up. Well, it's also boxing's in a real good place right now. There's so many good fighters.

Lomachenko, I mean, these two gentlemen. Could you really do a three-minute round in UFC? I mean with jiu-jitsu and all that it just seems like it wouldn't work. No, you couldn't. What I would think is maybe a five-minute round of boxing would be kind of interesting But I think they're doing it right honestly because I think You know you could go hard and fast for three minutes and maybe it'll ensure a faster pace for the majority of the fight Than if you made guys fight five minute rounds. How often do they give out 10-8 rounds in boxing? When guys get dropped

quite a bit. It's pretty common. It was uncommon for a long time in MMA but it's more common now. Wow, that was good head movement there by Canelo. That's because of the rule changes, right? Yeah. Canelo avoided most of that. He's got Really good defense there

His defense is tight Good movement Ooh that's a good right hand to the body It's just like to get to this level What's exciting about this fight Is that to get to this level There's so much shit you gotta go through It's so rare That a guy comes out this good, you know

Like there's so few of them. It's even rare that you get two of them finally fighting Yeah, like this who else who are the top pay-per-view boxers? You're looking at it right now I'm going in this yeah, I'm what Florida who else boys are tired Manny Pacquiao is not drawing the numbers he used to. In his last fight, he fought and he lost to a school teacher. You know, his time is basically done. Where did he go to fight? Australia. What about in the heavyweight division?

No pay-per-view there? Well, Anthony Joshua's a huge star in London and in England and probably in Europe and the UK. In America, he's a big star with boxing fans, but sort of like how Triple G's a big star with boxing fans. Canelo's a huge star with actual Mexicans, like across the board. And maybe you could say that about Anthony Joshua

with England. You know, I'm not in England. Could very well be that. Oh, look at that right hand over the top. He said no. He said no? Uh-uh. I don't know about that. what do you think boxing needs to do to to keep uh the upward it's just hard it's just

hard you got guys like terence crawford he's a bad motherfucker you got lomachenko you've got some good fighters you've got andre ward is one of the best in the world the UFC light or the boxing light heavyweight champion Who's also the US gold medalist in boxing? He's a beast I think we got to do is give people the fights that they want not make them wait for it for two years And three years that's easier said than done. Oh absolutely. It's hard. It's what helped the UFC I think so much do that and they're shaking their hands at each other. Oh, this is crazy Canellas winging some shots. He's throwing them hard, man. Ooh!

Oh. Maybe he wanted to tie Glovgan out a little bit. Maybe. Glovgan. How do you say it? Glovgan. Glovgan. Glovgan.

Ooh, this is a good fight. Ooh, dropped his hands. He got popped with a jab. The fucking cologne on the back of his pants. Bijoon. Bijoon or Bijon. Yeah, that's a cologne. This guy Norman used to wear it in a department store I worked in.

Then he was arrested for stealing. He always smelled good, Norman. That's hilarious. The smells. Yeah, he smelled great. I was like, what is it? He's like, bijoon. People are weird with their fucking colognes, right?

Yeah. I have a whole fucking shelf full of them. Do you? Yeah. I don't know why I like them. It's overcompensation, I think. I used to wear Jakar. Oh, right? Yeah. I have a whole fucking shelf full of them. Do you? Yeah, I just, I don't know why I like them. It's overcompensation, I think. I used to wear Jacar. Oh, God, yeah, it was great.

That was like fucking, that was like Guido stuff in like 1988, 1990. You thought you had to wear it to get laid. Yeah. Girls like cologne. Capizios.

They like it. For some reason, they love it. They like it. Gotta wear it. Gotta wear what they like. I don't like a girl to wear perfume at all. I really don't like, I like natural. Yeah. I like it. Gotta wear it. Gotta wear what they like. I don't like a girl to wear perfume at all. I really don't like...

I like natural... Yeah. I like the fruity smelling, like the sweet... Look at this. Perfumes. Boom. Not the grandma perfume. Oh, son.

Yeah, I don't like any... I want it to smell like a fucking gorilla. Canelo shook his head, but that was a bomb that he got hit with. It grazed him. It's weird, male perfume. It's weird that we accept that, you know? Oh, look at that right hand. Damn, dude.

Golovkin's pouring it on. Oh. Golovkin is landing some shots, man. It's only the sixth round. This is just the sixth round. I don the 6th round Oh Canelo's firing back That's a hard shot to the body He hurt him to the body He hurt him to the liver

Golovkin's in trouble He's hurt to the body He knows it He hit him with the right hand to the liver He's landing Oh shit What a turnaround It's so hard to recover from that liver shot too

You gotta keep moving But you're diminished You ever been hit in the liver Jim I know you've had a lot of guys leg kick you and choke you I don't think anyone's ever purposely punched me in the liver I've had a lot of things done they were all unpleasant But they say that's a pretty bad one. It's horrible.

And to fact, I'm pretty sure that happened just now to Gennady Golovkin and you could barely tell watching him fight. Ooh, he got hit in the chest there. A little high. Ooh, this is a good fight. It's so back and forth. Yeah. I punched a guy in the liver in the fourth grade

Didn't do shit Yeah you gotta work On your technique son The fourth grade Means you were nine Are you sure you actually Hit the liver Fuck yeah

Totally bro Crushed it It's a horrible thing to kick When people get kicked In the liver Knee to the liver Might be the worst That's one of liver. Knee to the liver might be the worst. That's one of the worst. Knee

to the liver is horrifying. Ronda Rousey was so good at that. She would tie girls up in that judo clinch and then just knee the fuck out of their body. It was ruthless. She was so good at the upper body control.

She could tie you up so well from judo. Oh, Gennady Kolovin with the right hand to the body. She would just get a hold of girls, and then she started fucking nuking them with knees to the body. She did that to Sarah McMahon. God damn, this is good. Yeah, this is really...

So tense, right? Like anything can happen here. Fortunes can change. The drop of a hat! Woo! Canelo is firing them, right? Like anything can happen here. Fortunes can change. The drop of a hat! Woo! Canelo is firing them, huh? Both these guys do. 49-44.

49-44 power punches. God damn it. That is so insane. Favor of Golovkin. Is Ronda coming back, you think? I don't think so. She's going to wrestling, I think. You think it's over?

Yeah, I think so. I don't think she wants to do it anymore. You know, for whatever reason, you could break that down psychologically all day. You know, Matt Serra had a great line that I never forgot. He said a long time ago

that everybody likes to be the hammer. Oh, yeah. But nobody wants to be the nail. Yeah. And there's always... If you're the nail, can you come back? Yeah, and there's always going to be the hammer. Oh, yeah. But nobody wants to be the nail. Yeah. And there's always... If you're the nail, can you come back? Yeah, and there's always going to be fighters out there

that you can't take down and you're going to be forced to stand. Sure. And the level of striking right now with the girls is at an all-time high. And if you ain't on top

of your striking, even if you get really good, it's still Russian roulette. Yeah. These girls are... Some of them are so good. Like Shevchenko and Amanda Nunes. Yeah, so, you know, what are you going to do if you can't take the person down? You have to strike.

And then it becomes a kickboxing battle. How good is your kickboxing? Kickboxing battle where you hope and pray that something goes wrong and you get it to the ground. Hey, you know what? Ronda has good striking. It's not terrible, but even if it was great, there's a lot of great strikers out there. So at the end of the day,

you're going to be forced to win a kickboxing tournament at the very top. It's going to be very hard. She didn't wrestle her whole life. She's doing judo at an Olympic level. She has great takedowns. She was able to ragdoll most of her opponents,

but right now, man, it's going to be very hard for her to take these girls down right now. She's going to be forced to strike. So then it becomes, you know, she could win some, she could lose some. How many people did she beat that were strikers as good as Holly Holm or Amanda Nunes? None. None of them were as good as her. The only one who was close was Kat

Zingano, and she caught Kat really early. First round, right? Yeah, with an armbar. Kat just charged at her and got caught with an armbar. Kat just charged at her and got caught with an armbar. Yeah, I think Rhonda said Kat deserved better. She knew that that was just kind of a fluke. You know what Kat said? The reason why she charged at her like that is because she took a furious beating

in that Amanda Nunes fight. She won the fight, but she got fucked up in that first round, like real bad. And she's like, I didn't want to go through that again. She goes, I just want to charge at her and get a hold of her. Imagine if Ronda Rousey decided to, on the girl she couldn't throw or take down, plan B is a flying guard pull. She had the guard for it.

She has an amazing guard, amazing armbar from the guard. Her plan should have been, in my opinion, to get the fight to the ground, try to be on top, try to use your judo. If that didn't work, we have to go to pulling guard. The problem with someone like Amanda Nunes is that's not going to happen. You don't think she can pull guard on Amanda Nunes? No.

You can pull guard on anybody. I think you're going to get eaten up with punches when you try to get close. Amanda's got some long-ass arms. In order to pull guard, you've got to pull off a legit shot to get them to react, to get them to sprawl. And that's when you pull guard.

When you're under them and they sprawl, you time it perfect. It's a technique. It's just like a takedown. Was that the biggest problem with Ronda? That was never Ronda's game. Her game was all upper body. But her guard is amazing. Her guard's amazing.

Just like in that fight with Sergio Morai, he was on his back, hurt, and his opponent wouldn't get on top of him. Let's pay attention to this, because some shit is happening here. Golovkin cracked him. We're still going to be able to watch the Rockhole fight, too. Ooh, so exciting. Yeah, it's only 8.30. This fight's nuts, man.

He's really impressive off the ropes, too. Golovkin? No, Alvarez. Oh, yeah. He's impressive everywhere. They both are. I mean, these are two legit world champions. That's why this is so exciting.

I haven't seen Golovkin on the ropes much at all this fight. No, because he's been taking it, too. Canelo. And that's his style and when that's what's so interesting about this setup is that everybody knew that canelo is a really good counter puncher i just got really good timing he just seems a bit too small canelo yeah oh that jab really there's a size difference man there's definitely a size difference but he's thick you know i just think frame wise i think you're right but i think the money is where he's at you know i mean i think this fight is a big

big money fight i don't know how many good fights there are for him at 54 what big names there are i think he struggles to make that weight too who glubgin no canelo i think he struggles even to make that weight, too. Who, Glovgen? No, Canelo. I think he struggles even to make 60. And this is at what? This is 60. I think 154 is a real struggle for him. Because Mayweather got him down to 152.

Mayweather's so smart. Just lose a little bit more weight. We'll talk. A little more weight. Just a little more weight. And the thing about connor like what he did to connor's very smart too which was just make him fight make him work get him get him tired and then start putting it to him to start piling it up wearing him out

piling it up wearing him out yeah when you saw mayweather unloading you're like oh yeah that's right yeah he's fucking floyd mayweather he's one of, if not the best boxer ever. And Conor did catch him with a couple things. Ooh, look at that jab. Son. Oh no. HBO pay-per-view went blank for a second there. They all panicked.

Can you imagine? Let's see. What do you think here? He's definitely losing the rounds, but he is fighting back. He's putting up a good fight. So you think Canelo's losing? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's got like 19 more head shots for Golovkin.

Yeah, they have Golovkin ahead 3 points, 65 to 68. But the thing is, it looks like Golovkin is trying to put him away. He's not just content to beat him. He's putting massive pressure on him here. You know, I mean, and you saw Canelo take a big, deep breath. And as we get into the 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, Canelo fades a little. He fades a little. He throws hard power shots.

And I know he keeps working hard on his conditioning and he works harder than anybody. But it's just that style is exhausting. Well, plus Golovkin wants to put him away because he hears people talking about his age, too. I mean, you know, everyone's saying, does he have it anymore? Is he slowing down? Yeah, that's the consensus. Oh, good shots to the body. Good shots to the body by Canelo.

He might have hurt him again. He might have hurt him again to the body. Golovkin's not firing at him. See? Ooh. He's catching his breath. Yeah, he got ripped to the body, dude.kin's not firing at him. See? He's catching his breath. Yeah, he got ripped to the body, dude. Another one right there.

This is such a good fight. If every boxing match was like this, boxing would be huge. The thing that's genius about Mayweather is he managed to never be in one of these. Yeah, he really did avoid everything. He avoided all of it. He never got beat up.

He only got hit clean like seven times, eight times his whole career. And he's made the most money. Made way more than anybody else combined. Like double or triple at least, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, he's for sure the number one moneymaker ever. Oh, without a doubt. He's not even close.

Didn't this put him into a billionaire category? In the neighborhood. You know, who knows exactly what the deal is. Dude, they got 6.25 something million pay-per-views. That's insane. I wonder what he's saving up for. I wonder what he wants that he doesn't quite have enough money. He's just balling.

He's balling out of control. Doesn't he owe taxes too? I think he owes money too. He owed a little bit before this fight. He might buy a basketball team. Oh, look at that uppercut. The big thing is him not going too crazy and spending it all and blowing it all.

He's smart. He doesn't seem like a dude. I think they have one more fight. I mean, he does buy mansions and shit and all sorts of Rolls Royces, but... Well, you know, when he got... Quality cars. He was, like, way deep in the tax...

Oh, he got caught with an uppercut. Nice uppercut by Canelo. He was definitely, like, in big tax trouble before we got bailed out with a fight in the tax. Oh, he got caught with an uppercut. Nice uppercut by Canelo. He was definitely in big tax trouble before. We got bailed out with a fight in the past. You think they rematch? I think they rematch. They should. Why not? I think Conor would have to beat somebody good

in a boxing match. And he would also have to have a real training camp. I think boxing's over for Conor. Oh, I don't think so. One more fight like that? Because people will buy it now because Conor went to the 10th round. He got fatigued. There's still a motive for people to buy it.

Yeah, I mean, look. He went the very first fight against the greatest ever. There's so many big fights in MMA. You're right. There's so many fights. You're right. There's that too. But the thing is, if there's a legit big fight, like say if Canelo Alvarez steps up and says that he wants to fight Conor McGregor. I don't think Conor will do it.

He might. I think Conor maybe realized you got to specialize. You can't do both. Especially the difference between Canelo and Floyd. Floyd was just a brilliant boxer. Canelo's a murderous puncher. And he'll fuck you up. He'll hurt you. There's also a promotional difference

too. Conor and Floyd are pretty much very similar guys and they both understood what they were doing promotion wise. I don't know if Canelo is that guy. Well, he's not going to promote it that way but he's got, oh, look at that uppercut. That shit's genius. He's got the support of the American people.

What about Glovekin versus McGregor? Ooh, look at that uppercut. He would do it. I don't know if McGregor would take that fight. No, that's not a good fight for him either. Neither Canelo or Glovekin is a good fight for him It's a terrible fight for him. Those guys are different. They're they're they're this you know Like look at what the way these guys fight especially with this is how Golovkin fights every fight. I bring big drama show

That's what he calls it Dude I dude I mean this is one of those fights we're going to be looking back on someday look at those shots of the body this is one of those fights that we're going to look back on and go you remember when we watched that fucking fight holy shit

he just shook his head at him Golovkin's putting tremendous pressure on him he's trying to break him. Yeah, he's keeping him against the ropes for 80% of the fight. It's not just that. It's the pace that he's fighting at. He's trying to make him wither. He sees something. You think he sees him fading?

Yeah, he sees him trying to catch some breaks. He's still super dangerous, but Golovkin catches he's seeing Canelo trying to catch his breath. He was splayed out on the seat in between rounds. His feet were all out. Yeah, see if I know this, and I don't know that much about boxing,

I know that Canelo has what people think of as an endurance problem. And it's not a big mystery. He just kind of fades a little bit. He just got tagged. He might get fucked. Oh my god! It comes back to the big right hand. It's not that he doesn't work hard. It's just that his style is just so explosive and he's got so much muscle that he carries around.

That style requires you to be in fucking sensational shape. Well, does it mean anything that is a counter puncher? Cause they're always getting hit first. So you got to take a little bit more too. No, not necessarily. His defense is outstanding. Look at that. Look how good he ducked under that right hand. His defense is amazing. It's just like he's never been hit like this before.

And not with a guy like Golovkin who's just putting it to him. He's been hit by a guy like Floyd who just caught him with good, clean scoring shots, snapped his head back a couple of times, but nothing like this. Not like a mule kicking you in the face. This is a different thing because Golovkin is trying to break him. He's not just trying to win. He's putting himself in danger.

He's putting himself in danger to prove that he's the best. And that's a different thing. That's a different kind of person. He's not making the kind of money that these guys are making. He's hungry as fuck. See that uppercut?

Ooh, baby! And again, he's not making the kind of money that these guys are making. He's hungry as fuck. See that uppercut? Ooh, baby. And again, he's not making the kind of superstar money that he just saw Conor and Floyd make. And the only way that he can make it is to bring big drama show. And so he's just coming for death. What's he getting for this fight? Who knows? I think it's probably depending upon the pay-per-view sales. Yeah, I literally have no scale for what these guys make.

I have no clue. A million? He's got to make at least a couple million, right? Canelo makes millions. Canelo is a superstar. He's going to sell, I mean, he would sell fucking a million pay-per-views if he was fighting an Uber driver. And I'm not joking.

Ooh. Ooh. So he's a bigger draw than Golovkin. Oh, yeah. Canelo's getting five. Triple G's getting three. Nice. So he's a bigger draw than Golovkin Oh yeah Triple G is getting three Nice Is that amazing he's getting two million more No if you know how famous he is it makes sense

He's huge Like that guy goes viva Mexico And the fucking roof almost falls off I'll tell you what man Mexicans and Irish They make you reconsider the idea of patriotism very very proud people like when you hear the Irish people

that were in town in Vegas when Conor was fighting you ever see that video of Mandalay Bay the whole Mandalay Bay which the fight wasn't even there the whole Mandalay Bay filled to where you couldn't walk with Irish people and they're all singing together. Yeah.

It was insane. And that wasn't even where the fight was being held. We saw them at the garden outside in November. It was fucking, I was with Matt, it was freezing outside. These maniacs have short-sleeved shirts and tank tops. Damn. Yeah, didn't we walk to the garden together? We walked there to the, leaving the garden, it was freezing that night.

I remember. Yeah. That's right, there was protests in front of Trump's apartment. Yeah, that's right. How fun was that? It was awesome. We had a walk. Little Jimmy, me, and Cam.

And weren't you there? Young Jamie was there. Was Tony there, too? Brendan, Mischief Maker, was there. Look at that. Oof. Oof. Oof. God damn, look at that. Oof. Oof. Oof.

God damn, look at that left to the body and that right over the top. Holy shit, what a fight this is. But we had to walk because there were so many people protesting Trump. Oh, he stunned him. He got hurt. Golovkin got hurt. He stumbled. Woo!

Canelo hit him with something. Oh, look at that jab! Oh my goodness! Oh! He caught him again. Oh my god, this is a fight. He's back. This is a fucking fight.

And this is the 10th round, kids. Oh my god, this is amazing. And the ref hardly ever has to hold, pull them apart. Oh my god, no. These guys are going for blood. Golovkin is a fucking savage, man. Savage.

He's got like 82% Genghis Khan blood. Right? If you had to guess. You're right. The ref is not stepping in that much. He hasn't had a chance. He has no need to. This is a war.

Especially the way Golovkin fights, man. What a pace he puts on you. You just don't get a chance. He has no need to. This is a war. Especially the way Golovkin fights, man. What a pace he puts on you. You just don't get a chance to breathe. He's just on you. Like he stays in a phone booth no matter what. And there's no breaks. He pops a jab. You step back.

You're right back on you. Look at this. He's just right back on him constantly. Look at this pressure. Right hand. You've got to understand how terrifying this is when you're fighting a guy like this that doesn't get tired, continues to push on you,

and that's why Canelo has to take some breaks. Yeah, then you start just trying to get out of his way. He doesn't really want to be up against the ropes like this. He has to fight like this. He really doesn't have the energy to just meet him in the center and go kablooey at each other. So Golovkin's pressure and constant forward movement that's a big factor here he's controlling where this fight takes place another weapon yeah it's ring generalship he's completely controlling where the fight takes place and he's showing much more desire to win he's trying to stop Canelo

Canelo's trying to catch Golovkin as he's trying to stop him. There's two very different things happening here. Doesn't mean that Canelo can't still put the lights out on him, but what's way more impressive is what Golovkin's doing. He's just swarming him, man. See? Canelo grabs

him after that. See that? That's right. He throws that shot and he grabs him. It's because he's wilting. See his legs just give out there? Dude, he's wilting. See that? That's right. He throws that shot and then he grabs him. It's because he's wilting. See his legs just give out there? Dude, he's wilting. He is. He's getting fucked up. He can still come back hard because he's a fucking animal and he's a world champion. But the bottom line is he's starting to fade.

We're in the 10th round. This shit's getting weird. Look at that. He's still got some good head movement, though. I'll tell you that. That was nice. The cardio is incredible Tremendous fight

Incredible Tremendous Golovkin's cardio Well Golovkin's another Big Bear guy Is he? Yes he is What's a Big Bear guy? Goes to Big Bear to train

Same as El Cucuy Tony's a savage dude I've watched that guy train for six hours straight dude Tony Ferguson His cardio is fucking through the roof Through the roof He's an animal You should see the shit we're doing up there.

Crazy, crazy shit. Don't you love Big Bear, man? Isn't it peaceful up there? It's cool. What do you do up there? Do you just run? You work out there. You're at a very high altitude.

Low oxygen content in the air. They say, Eddie, honestly, the best thing to do is not to train up there. They say the best thing to do is to live up there and to train down. To go down to sea level. and to train like down like to go down to like sea level like drive an hour go down to sea level train there and then go do everything else up up top because your body will adapt because the altitude especially when you're sleeping up there but you'll have more work output you'll get more work in with your body at uh sea level yeah but what do i know i'm not a scientist son dude tony don't

need more work dude tony goes forever no i'm sure but i mean he could be even better is what i'm saying i just think that that's what the science is i mean it doesn't mean anything tony's obviously adapted to big bear well fuck that's such a good fight man such a good fight kevin lee yeah so hell yeah it's gonna be great kevin lee is a is a serious threat you know he's not taking him lightly very serious threat they're both very serious but if you look at their opponents tony's been through some you know he he fucked up edson barbosa uh josh thompson uh rafael dos anjos those are big names, big, giant fights. The Dos Anjos one was very fucking impressive. Very impressive. That was an incredibly impressive fight.

And then the other one that was really impressive to me was the Barboza fight. Because Barboza's stand-up is top of the food chain. And Tony was cracking him and then finished him in a crazy, bloody darse. Wasn't that all bloody and everything on that darse? Yep, yep. And Edson Barbosa is considered probably top three most dangerous strikers in the UFC. Oh, yeah. That guy will light you up with wheel kicks, head kicks.

Everything. He's so fast. He's so powerful. He has the first wheel kick KO in the UFC. You know, in the highlight, you could see Ari Shafir in the background going like this. Yeah. You know, in the highlight, you could see Ari Shafir in the background going like this. As he gets hit and cracked, he hits Terry Edom with this crazy wheel kick. It was the first wheel kick KO in the UFC, and it was the perfect one. Why did Aldo stop?

It seemed like Aldo, I noticed it in the Frankie Edgar fight, really stopped kicking or throws a lot less. Is he hurt? Oh, good question. It's a very good question. It could be because he's got injuries that don't allow him to kick anymore. It could be that it's easier for guys to take him down when he kicks. You'd have to talk to him. I'd like to talk to him.

But he didn't use it very much on Max Holloway. But if you go back to the Uriah Faber fight, it was like his biggest weapon. Yeah, but I noticed against Frank Yegum that he's not throwing a lot of kicks. I wondered why. I thought Frankie was probably trying to time those kicks in the rematch. That made total sense to me. What didn't make sense is how he didn't use them

that much against Max. But, you know, Max is a motherfucker, man. Well, he said he wants to box now with Jose Aldo. Yeah. I've heard that, but that doesn't take away

from the fact that in an MMA fight, his kicks are one of the most deadly weapons in the sport. In his prime, man, he was so fucking good. But like everyone, it's just like they reach a time. Oh!

Golovkin caught him with the right hand. Ooh! This is a crazy, crazy fight, man. Like, you usually don't get these fights. 96-95 Golovkin power punches landed. Wow. That's incredible. These guys are just battering each other.

Oh, the good left hook, too. You know, Golovkin, I mean, Canelo, rather, is absolutely a champion, and that's the reason why he keeps firing back and he won't wilt. And he keeps using good head movement, but there's no doubt about Golovkin's putting it on him. One more round. So exciting. And then we get to go to see David Branch and Luke Rockhold.

How are we so lucky? Look at this. Some Jesus shit going on. Yeah, I don't know what that is. That's got to be a relative. Who is that? That's got to be a relative. Canelo's mom or something?

She was like, this is, got that moment. Come to Jesus moment. Del San just looks so much better at 170, doesn't he? I missed that fight, but he did get an arm try. I saw the finish. Put the smash on Neil Magny. Put the smash on. You don't want to talk about how big his legs look.

That's a big win. Giant. He just looked massive. Yeah, well, he's filled in. This is what his body's supposed to look like. He was starving himself. It's a terrible idea. I mean, he's filled in. This is what his body's supposed to look like. He was starving himself. It's a terrible idea. I mean, he was a beast at 155.

I mean, he was smashing guys and running them over. But he got to a point where he really could not make the weight anymore. I mean, he was in real bad shape when he made the weight for Eddie Alvarez. He's thick, man. He's a thick dude. And at 170, I mean, he's a fucking animal. He kicked Neil Magny's legs out from under him. And then he got on top of him and just put the smush on him.

It was just so high level. How did he get him down? Got him down with a kick. Kicked his fucking leg out from under him. And then jumped on him? Yeah, just jumped on him. It was a beating. I mean, it was...

Canelo's going for it. He has to know he needs a knockout. Yeah, he's got to know. 12th round. Ooh, behind the ear, in the clinch. Ooh, look at that uppercut. In the clinch, pulling the head down. Going MMA on him.

That jab of fucking Golovkin is so slick. Oh, Canelo! Canelo with the... Oh, shit! Oh, Canelo with the combo! Golovkin caught him with a left hook. Goddamn, Golovkin has a chin, man. Let me tell you that.

An unbelievable chin. I mean, he took some... Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Oh, shit! What a crazy fight! This is amazing. Oh, my God, this is amazing!

Oh, and Canelo landed a right hand! This is a crazy fight! Holy shit! Look at that jab. Popped right out with a jab. And a right hand real tight in the clinch. Constant pressure. A minute 30 to go.

Does he take over? Does he take over? Does Canelo have enough to sustain? Arms down. Swinging and missing. Trying to catch some blood in there. Throwing some punches that just don't have the steam on him anymore. And Golovkin.

And Golovkin has to know he's ahead and he's still coming after him. Yeah, he's a fucking spider, dude. He's like a spider trying to suck the blood out of a fly. He's just on you. Like, almost like... Just so predator-like.

Just constantly. Look, he's not backing off. He's not boxing. This is not a boxing match. He's trying to fuck him up. That's the Golovkin style that makes him so exciting man that's why Mexican fighters love him

they do right yeah yeah Mexican fight fans are big Triple G fans to the point where his last fight he goes ah muchos gracias he knows man because he fights like

a world class top of the food chain Mexican boxer in a lot of ways. God damn, he's good. This is fucking fantastic. Yeah, those are just hitting the gloves. Yeah, Canelo's tired, man. He's real tired.

There's still 20-something to go. But he's still hanging in there, man. That's that world champion heart. Still swinging. It doesn't get any better than this. For boxing, especially after the Conor McGregor-Floyd Mayweather fight, this is a fight that's like, hey, this is how it's done. This is the real deal.

I mean, obviously, Floyd did it how it's supposed to be done, but that wasn't two fighters on the same level. Look at this. This is crazy. These were... That's absolutely Gloff's fight. These are both great moments for boxing, though. The Mayweather-McGregor and this are both really, really great for boxing. Brendan Schaub, I should say this before the decision gets announced,

said that if Golovkin didn't win by some ungodly lopsided beatdown, that he could lose a decision because of corruption. He goes, because that's how boxing rolls, and there's way more money in Canelo winning. So that said, now that we know that... Tecate sponsor. That's true. Well, apparently the audience is like half Mexican. He's a superstar

in Mexico. Just a superstar. What are you talking about? Canelo. So let's see if Brendan Schaub predicted this correctly, because we think... It has to be Golovkin. The unofficial scorecard guy had it for Golovkin by several rounds. We think it was Golovkin, clearly, although Canelo fought a great fight. Have there been bad decisions?

If Canelo wins, when was the last time there was a decision like that? Tim Bradley, Manny Pacquiao. Who won that? I believe Bradley won, but Pacquiao should have won And then Pacquiao came back And outboxed him It was worse It was worse

If I remember correctly So what was the reason? Boom look at that Boom Boom Boom Oh Jesus Canelo

Oh my goodness This is the last round That was When Canelo just tried To put it to him And Golovkin's like Come on come on come on I'm from Kazakhstan.

Boom. Just boom over the top. Goddamn. Just war here. Look at that jab. He literally just paid back every punch he took in the combination. Just sharp jab, too. His jab's so snappy.

Okay, change it. Ah! Give me a guess, Eddie Bravo. For sure, Glovegan. For sure, right? Unless there's corruption, like Brandon said. He's not crazy to say that. I doubt it.

There could easily be corruption. Boxing's not that bad. We're saying this. Look at this. They got it 116-112 for Glovegan. Harold Letterman here. Harold Letterman. They gave that last...

I thought Glovegan ran away with it. They gave 10-9 on that last fight? I mean, that last round to fucking Canelo? Yeah. You know what I really like? I don't know why they did that. I like how these girls just stand there and smile. They're doing a really good job.

They're always smiling. It seems easy. Dude, it's hard. You gotta be frozen in that smile. Oh, them fucking clapping in the back. It drives me crazy. I hate it. I love it.

I love their focus. They're focused on not being even remotely normal. Adelaide Byrd. The job, their focus, their job is to stand there. Smile. In some psychotic way if they were a guy. Like, if they were a guy, if they hired a guy to stand there in a nice suit and tie and stand there like this, could you fucking imagine how crazy it would be

if you hired guys to stand behind fighters with giant smiles on their face and just not, especially if they were in their underwear. Just imagine that. Imagine guys in a Speedo standing there like ripped, like holding a Takate sign with a big giant smile on their face. That happens on Santa Monica Boulevard during the parades. But it doesn't happen during a big fight on pay-per-view, Eddie Bravo. You silly goose.

One day when... Hey, let's hear the volume. Let's hear it. Is this a split decision or no? One fourteen, one fourteen, a three-way split. This is officially a draw. Told you, son. Oh, shit. Boy, they fucking, boxing fucking stinks.

Told you, son. Boxing fucking stinks. Boxing fucking stinks. Brendan. Brendan Schaub is a sage. He's right. Boxing fucking stinks. Why is he mad?

Because he knows. He knows he got fucked. He knows it's bullshit. Canelo got fucked? Well, he's going to feel terrible now. He knows he got his ass kicked. That's bullshit. Canelo got fucked? Well, he's going to feel terrible now. He knows he got his ass kicked. That's a draw? There's no way that's a draw.

How is that a draw? No, it's... Hold on a second. He's acting like if he was happy, then that would mean that he thought he lost. So the fact that he looks pissed, that's smart. He's going, I should have won. This is bullshit.

No, no, no. He's going to be mad. He knows it shouldn't have been a draw. I think he's mad because he didn't win. He threw 200 more punches. I'm sure he's mad he didn't win, but he's definitely mad that he got outboxed and they made it a draw. He landed 50 more punches.

Yeah. How the fuck is that a draw? Boxing stinks. It's not even close. Look at that, though. Power punches. Different. There you go. That's the difference. Very close. It's not even close. Look at that, though. Power punches. Different. There you go. That's the difference.

Very close. Maybe. Oh, the higher percentage. Oh, I can't stand it. Yeah, but it's a higher number landed, too. 114 to 110 in total power punches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's a weird thing, though. When you're looking at it numbers-wise, it mean, it's one way of looking at it. But, like, one big shot that's a power punch and then another power punch that doesn't do anything, they're both power punches. You know what I'm saying? Like, one shot that really fucks you up and your legs go and you get wobbly, that's a power punch. And another power punch is a shot that lands in the same spot but doesn't do anything. They're both power punches. What do these colors mean? Do you know what I'm saying?

What does the blue ear mean? I don't know. Look at the number of punches that landed on Canelo's face. 109 on his right side and 95 on his left. 210 landed to 127. Yeah, big difference in how many landed to the head. 44?

Golovkin landed way more. Wait a minute. It said only four shots were landed to the head. 44? Gennady Golovkin landed way more. Wait a minute. It said only four shots were landed to Canelo's body? That doesn't make any sense. Is that really what it said? Let's hear what he says. Let's hear. Let's hear this.

Hold on a second. What happened tonight? Good move. Go right to the Mexican fans. Fucking smart move. We probably can't play this without getting yanked off of YouTube. So we're going to go to the... By the way, first of all, I didn't think that last fight was... I mean, that last round was 10-9 Canelo. No.

How is he not fucking angry about this? I mean, why am I angry about it? He's getting paid. Big drama show. 219, I think. He retains his belt, so nothing really changes for him, and he gets all that money. Now that you're record. And then the rematch is going to be insane.

The rematch will be insane. He's thinking about those dollars. 219. Good job by Brendan, man. Fucking good call. Yeah. He nailed it. The fighters were amazing, but the organization, it just stinks. Brendan, man. Fucking good call. Yeah. He nailed it. The fighters were amazing,

but the organization, it just stinks. Brendan nailed it. Can you hear this? Are you guys hearing this? What? No. Okay.

What am I hearing? What he thought. I don't want to hear it. If he's not saying I got really lucky that they gave me that draw, I don't want to hear what he's saying. If he thinks he won, he's stupid. Still, that was a want to hear it. If he's not saying, I got really lucky that they gave me that draw, I don't want to hear what he's saying. If he thinks he won, he's stupid.

Still, that was a great fight. Amazing. I love it. I don't, you know, I mean, I do care, but I don't care. I do care that I think that I thought that Golovkin won, but I don't care. It's a great fight. I like seeing great fights. Decisions mean less to me as I get older because I look at it

and like, okay, what am I doing? I'm basing how I feel about something based on an inaccurate assessment by people that don't necessarily know what they're doing. Would I take advice on whether or not an episode of Game of Thrones is good from three people I thought were knuckleheads? What if there's three judges for TV shows? Well, the Game of Thrones finale, I gave it a 100. Let's go to these judges. Nope, we decided it gets a 40. No fucking way!

And you go to school the next day, like, dude, you hear? Fucking Game of Thrones final got a 40? Bro, we lost! It got a little ridiculous at the end. Shut your mouth. Oh my God. I thought this last season was the best one.

Shut. Oh, come on. Okay, let me ask you a couple questions. It got a little ridiculous at the end Shut your mouth Oh my god I thought this last season was the best one Shut Oh come on Okay let me ask you a couple questions I loved it Remember when they first escaped The white walkers Didn't like the water have something to do with it Like they got on a boat

And for some reason they can't get in water right That's the thing Right Right If it's their ice Are you spoiler alerting the fuckers No no I'm just saying You're gonna spoiler alert Something Don fuckers? No, no, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You're in a spoiler alert.

Something. Don't do this. Something about the water. Right. They can't hang it. There was a few holes. There was a few holes in the plot. And now, when, who the fuck tied those chains around that dragon and dragged it up?

Who went scuba diving and tied that dragon up and dragged it up? You probably have to assume. Are they that strong? They're not that strong because those dudes are fucking them up. They're not that strong. Who's carrying those gigantic chains down there underwater, tie up the dragon, and drag it up? Who's doing that? They did.

Well, they're all dead, so they probably don't give a shit about the cold water. They couldn't go through the water. They can't get into water. He's right. So how did they do it? That's a big hole right there. It's a big hole. I'll accept the dragon.

I'll accept it. It's a very good point. It's a very good point. The dragon I can accept. That's a very legitimate point. What happens when they hit the water, though? I don't remember. They's a big hole. I'll accept the dragon. I'll accept it. It's a very good point. It's a very good point. The dragon I can accept. That's a very legitimate point. What happens when they hit the water, though? I don't remember. They don't like water.

But they don't like it. Who the fuck wants to keep them from getting to ships? So islands. I can keep them from going to an island. That's why these other guys are like, fuck this, I'm going to an island. I'm going to wait on the Iron Island. Right? Is it possible they just lower the things down?

No, no. Bravo. Nailed it. They cannot get into water for some reason. They established that several times. And then all of a sudden, they cut. They don't show how they tied this goddamn dragon up with the chain. It's like one of those chains that you hold Navy ships to port, you know?

Yeah. And who tied them up? They just cut to them dragging them out. Watching that dragon get pulled out, I can suspend a little. I can live with the inconsistency of the dead people dragging the dragon out of the ice water. I can live with the inconsistency. I can live with that, but I'm with him.

I didn't even notice that when I was watching the show. I didn't either. That they went in the water. And I love Game of Thrones, man. I haven't missed shit. They fucked up. That just got me. They fucked up.

Yeah, they fucked up. It's a big hole. You're right. Big hole. God damn it, you're right. Maybe like in the lost episodes, they'll show how the fuck they tied that dragon up

and dragged it up. Or maybe it's just a big ass stupid hole. Yeah. And did anyone catch it? And you know what else? No, no, no. Did they say,

fuck it, let's do it anyway? You know what bothers me? What? Is we're led to believe that these different kingdoms like King's Landing and all that, are like countries away. But man, they are traveling too damn quick. They get from one city to the next city.

They're at the wall. And then they meet. And then they're in the snow. Come on. And then they're in the Bahamas. And then they're walking over mountains. Like, dude, this can take months. And then they're walking over mountains.

Like, dude, this can take months. It's almost like that whole kingdom is like Redondo Beach, West Hollywood, North Hollywood, Compton. Yeah. It takes 20 minutes. This fight is Mike Perry. It was supposed to be Mike Perry versus Tiago Alves. He couldn't get out of Florida, right? Isn't that what he said?

He couldn't get out of Florida, Alves? Is that what happened? Yeah. He was stuck in Florida and Mike Perry said, we came up early so I don't want to hear that shit. Is that really what happened? I believe so, yeah. That's terrible. Do you ever think like when they show the armies walking through like fucking no man's land, like who's carrying the fucking food? And where

where's the water at? Hey bro, you're fucking my high up. When are they taking shits? I always think that. When are these motherfuckers taking shits? That's a good point. Like, what kind of sewage system do they have? How bad is the breath?

They're just walking across deserts and shit. And not shitting. Yeah. In ancient Rome. There should be dudes taking pisses in every scene in the background. There was a big issue in ancient Rome. Like, people got diseases

because they would shit in the streets. Let's talk about that. Let's bring that in. scene in the background. There was a big issue in ancient Rome. People got diseases because they would shit in the streets. Let's talk about that. Let's bring that in. Make it more realistic. I need to see more shit. You're right, man. Or food. Come on. Explain how these fuckers are eating. I'd love to see Khaleesi dropping a deuce off the side of that fucking castle. How great would that be? That'd be great.

Oh, man. Maybe the queen. And those shots. I don't know. Those tight shots where they show Khaleesi on those shots. I don't know. Those shots. Mother of dragons. Those tight shots where they show Khaleesi on the dragon. I don't care for that. Remember the Superman TV show?

It just looks like that. Dude, she's the mother of dragons. You don't think she knows how to ride a dragon. Her hair is barely going and she's barely holding on. That's like somebody watching you in a jujitsu match. Like, oh, come on, man. He strangled that guy with his legs. We've got to have a couple guys falling off the dragons every now and then.

She gotta fall off the dragon every now and then. Didn't someone almost fall off the dragon? Oh, no, that was the Harry Potter ride. She gotta fall off. She's gotta fall off once or twice. Come on, man. She's just like barely gripping the dragon. I do hate those shots when they go to her riding the dragon.

It drives me nuts. Yeah. I do. It's like some John Wayne shit. You guys are both gay for each other. Because I thought that was the most awesome thing ever. I love the show. Don't get me wrong. I. I don't like those. It's like some John Wayne shit. You guys are both gay for each other. Because I thought that was the most awesome thing ever. I love the show. Don't get me wrong.

I love it. I love it. When she was riding that dragon, I was standing up cheering. Because it looks green screen. The dragons look better without it. Isn't it kind of weird that all the rulers are women? Like what kind of- Some feminist shit.

Isn't it? We're all full of murder. Just keep that murder coming. I'm happy. Look at it. It's like a bun. It's perfect there. Look how fake that looks.

Dude, come on, man. Yeah, it's terrible hold it out of that dragon Do you know how many spikes would be inside of her pussy right there? Yeah? I mean where the cape should be like a saddle Where is it safe to stick your box? You're gonna ride that thing between spikes, but look at the spikes Look at the size of the spikes. Yeah, look how gross they are and scary and pointy. Probably disease covered. Somehow or another. Oh, yeah. Her grip strength must be incredible. They never show her training. Dude, her grip strength's out of this world.

She should have like a rock climbing wall in her castle. Maybe she takes one of those spikes and she puts it down in her pussy and she just clamps a hole of it. And that's how she's flying. Does kegels the whole time? She just has a spot that she can lock in. Like a ball and socket joint. Is this another really bad one? Oh, it's the dragon's way bigger than that like yeah the dragon's way bigger than

i hate the way she's holding on you're right her whole body is on spikes that isn't right when they show the dragon sometimes it looks tremendous it's huge yeah this is that might be an old episode that looks like a moray eel right that might be smaller though it might be younger oh that might have been earlier days oh you're right you're. Because it did get bigger. You're right, you're right, you're right. It kept getting bigger. You're right. Okay, I'm wrong. Didn't she use it to kill a bunch of people, man?

Some people in some of the last episodes. Didn't she get out of the chain? Look how big it was there. Oh, my God. That's a full-grown dragon. Okay, I get it. Hold on a second. Look at that thing.

Dude, that's badass. The movement of the dragon is amazing. And you know what? I will say this. I know that motherfucker's CGI, but when that white walker threw that spear, I was like, when it missed the first time, I'm like, fuck you. I know.

I feel like it's alive. Lee versus Ferguson. They got me with the dragon. I believe it. They're going to try to do Johnson versus Borg again? It was a virus though, right? That kept him out? He's missed weight a lot.

Oh. He's missed weight a lot. Ray Borg has missed weight several times. And I don't know if he got sick while he was cutting weight, if other people were around him. But it's just, you know, boy, that's a big opportunity to get sick for. And it can happen for sure, but oof. Yeah. I guess they have to do it again.

They already trained for it. One of the judges gave it 118 to 110 for Canelo You're kidding Adelaide Bird Adelaide Bird did that Wasn't Think about her record in the UFC Terrible

118 to 110 for Canelo Adelaide Bird That's so crazy Is that a woman or a man She's a woman. She's a very nice lady. Wow, is that fucking bad. She's gonna get torched for that, no? That's terrible.

I hope she stays offline. But they have no accountability. It doesn't matter. Nothing happens to them. They just keep right on being fucking horrible. That's terrible. Yeah, it's not good. I better piss. There was one woman who got she got in serious trouble for several really bad decisions and she wound up retiring

because it was like people were threatening her life Mike Perry's a bad motherfucker he's scary it's hard see that j think, like, if, I don't know, a casino owner or whoever is running, like, the gambling, the guy at the top, if he wanted to, let's just say. Rig it? If he wanted to rig it, would you go after, how would you do? Go after the judges or the fighter? I got your explanation, too. What explanation? For the Game of Thrones thing.

Okay. Multiple tweets have come that said that they can't swim, but they can go in water. They just sink to the bottom. Oh, so they sacrificed them. But who's carrying those chains? They're not strong enough to carry those chains. Those chains were gigantized. They just sink them. I don't know. They get hundreds

of them. They can't swim. They just sink. But wait a minute. They drag the dragon out. If they're strong enough to drag the dragon out, why aren't they strong enough to take the chains in? Dude, a lot of holes in there. That doesn't make any sense. Less holes now. Or whoever put them down there is still down there. Makes sense. They just sacrifice them, let them stay at the bottom of the water.

They can't get out. That doesn't make sense. So they're just walking around, chaining them up? Why can't they just walk out? You know how hard it'd be to chain them up? Even if you had cranes and all this shit, to chain that thing up, you'd have to have james cameron down there with that little submarine trying to scope it out for a while you know what i mean try to bring that up like the titanic keith peterson another excellent referee

that would be way harder than the titanic a dead body no it wouldn't be harder than the titanic titanic's like miles deep into the water like 13 000 feet000 feet down? Yeah, it's crazy how deep it is. But it's steel and has shit to hook on. You could just hook it up. Look at this. Ooh. His hair does usually, does his hair usually look like that? No, he's going Jersey Shore for this fight.

He's a ruthless guy, though. Super powerful fucking knockout artist. Very dangerous. Yeah. When he knocked out Ellenberger, I was like, wow. He's just real reckless and angry. Alan Joban handled him, though.

Joban did a really good job. He had one loss. He's smart. I think that's his loss. I think he's 10-1. I think that's his loss, but, you know, that's a good fight for him. Joban fought a technical fight and beat him. And for a guy like Mike Perry, who's a super dangerous up-and-coming dude,

that's a good fight for him Learn something, you know Got leg kick there as long as they they just learn, you know Long as fighters don't get discouraged fights like that are always good for them because then you just realize there's a higher level And the only way to reach that higher level is you gotta you gotta see it Fuck is this a pre-run or is this live? Oh, it's live. Oh, this is live. This is the co-main, isn't it? This is the co-main?

Yeah. Yeah. Kid's fucking ferocious, man. Look at that knee to the head. Look at this. Fucking fighting him off so good. Good Muay Thai right there. Hey, good Muay Thai, good clinching, but most importantly, just relentless attack.

Look at him. Boom. Dead elbow on the clutch. Boom. There's the knee. That's it. That's it. Boom.

Is that what he does? Yep. Ruthless. He's a ruthless motherfucker. Yeah. That guy is relentless. And it's just like all attack. It's all attack. All full bore. All out. Just trying to smash you all the way. is a guy like Joe Band who's going to fight a very smart technical stand up fight. Like Joe Band did a lot of footwork, a lot of movement, but he also made him pay. He made sure that when he comes charging out, I'm like, you're not going to get away with that. Boom, we would catch him with some stuff

and he realized, ooh, this guy can hurt me. It was enough for him to keep Perry off him. Look at this shit. Elbow and tight. That's nice. That's nice. Look at this. Boom! That was tight. That's nice. That's nice. Look at this. Dome. That's it. Limpville.

Population one. Bam. Hammer fist to the back of the ear. Did this guy have any kind of camp though? No, he did not. I don't believe. You don't see a lot of tight clinches. Well, you remember Anderson and Rich Franklin? That was enough for like 10 years.

Do you think it's because, because obviously it's a clinch that has a thousand levels and we need a lot of work. Do you think it's because most fighters don't specifically work on developing that clinch and controlling people from that clinch in their training camps? Or it's just something that's low percentage in MMA? Not a good decision. It's not that it's low percentage. It's there's less of a chance of getting in an MMA because you're essentially

allowing a guy to get double underhooks on you. I mean, if you think about what you're doing when you're clenching someone's head. Anderson was so good at it, man. He had such a tight squeeze. And it's like anything else. You know how some people just have a sick gable grip. Some people just have just a sick squeeze. Well, there's levels.

Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Developing an R fighter, spending time developing that. Oh, yeah, for sure. In Thailand, they drill with that. No, no, in Thailand, they specialize in it. They're working on it. They spend time on it.

Yeah. You don't see it that much in MMA. You think it's because it's low percentage or- Well, it's also you're committing to this, right? You're committing to this. It's just guys are too good. You give a guy a double underhook and he's tripping you and he's on top. People don't want that.

And it's also guys are good at keeping their hands on the hips. That's what Rich Franklin fucked up. But there is a reality, though, that if the guy has, like if you have your hand on a guy's hips and the other guy has got you in a Thai clinch, he can elbow you from that clinch while you're grabbing onto his hips, and you're not really going to be in a good position to stop it if he's fast. It's a very good position to be in. You know, if a guy is worried about your knees, and he does commit one hand or maybe even two to the hips,

like you catch him with a couple of hard ones, a lot of guys will just switch to elbow, like right from here, just bam. And it's a ruthless, ruthless thing. Elbows are so nasty. It's really kind of amazing that we cover up the knuckles because you break your knuckles because you break your knuckles a lot you never break your elbow fucking smash bricks with your elbow no problem nobody ever breaks their elbow fighting unless you get kicked you know but like hitting

somebody you might get like little chips like anderson had a bunch of chips in his elbow that he actually had to get removed like bone chips and shit stuff that snapped off same thing with alan joe bond i'm sure serious problem with with his elbow didn't gerald i think gerald's treatment had a bunch of floating around shit in his elbow too a lot of guys get that i think he was the third choice for this too i think really yeah there was one guy they had um and he couldn't do it and i guess i don't know who was second well you watch how fucking ferocious Perry is you realize why Tiago didn't want to take this with no camp or fuck with a fucked up camp what was fucked up at his camp didn't he have a he's got to get out of Florida for the hurricane that was like a week before though I think he got pulled from the fight that's what they both came from Florida that that's I think what uh what the reason he gave was

let me make sure that's right he's talking some shit about Tiago right now That's, I think, what the reason he gave was. Let me make sure that's right. He's talking some shit about Tiago right now. Everybody wants to see me beat up Robbie Lawler. Look at him. Wow. Everybody wants to see me beat up Robert DeLauro. Ooh, what a crazy thing to say. What a great fight that would be, though.

Good Lord. This is a fucking interesting one. If he really does do that, if Tiago doesn't fight him, and then he wants up and... Because he didn't get hurt in this fight at all. He just swarmed him and KO'd him. He could probably fight again in a few months. I wonder what they're gonna do if they're gonna rematch

Or make the remake rather the Tiago fight or whether they really do give this kid Robert. How about Ponzinibbio? That's a good fight. That's actually who I thought they were gonna wind underneath they put in McConner and Ellison Okay, yeah, I don't want to hear any of this nonsense yeah yay we're going to the game okay what do you give a fuck you just knocked a dude unconscious he's just an enjoyable guy though yeah ferocious fighter yeah just like his style is just marauding ferocious full attack reckless a lot of a lot of uh confidence in his ability to take a shot, a lot of confidence in ability to knock people dead.

Like, boom, landed that. Like, that's it. And then have one of these. Great fight would be him and Alan Joban again with the history rematch. Yeah, it could be. Doesn't Joban have a big fight coming up? Does he? Why do I think Alan has a big fight coming up?

Maybe I'm making that up. I don't think I am, though. I think something was just announced. I don't know. It's saying that Diago lost his dog and was living with his family at the gym because of the hurricane. So maybe he did it before camp. That'd be right. Yeah, fuck all that.

Being at the gym with your family. And he's got a kid, That'd be right. Yeah, fuck all that. Being at the gym with your family. And he's got a kid, a really young kid. Yeah, I get it. That clinching is insane. Insane. He's a beast, man. And that's how Alan fights, too. He's got a serious clinch, too.

That's the motherfucker right there. That's the picture on my phone. I took my girlfriend off and put Francis and Ganu. Look at his hat. I love it. He's like Idi Amin up in that bitch. Here we go. Did they find anyone for him, by the way, or no?

After Dos Santos dropped out? No. They don't know what's going to happen with Junior. What the substance was. They said it was a very small trace amount of a diuretic. So it wasn't like a steroid. But a lot of times guys use diuretics to mask steroids because it flushes it out of your system quicker.

So like I say, if a guy is doing something, he wants a test negative, apparently you can flush some stuff out with diuretics. Okay. Because it just drains all the water out of your body, and you keep pouring more water in, and it flushes things out quicker, I think. I don't understand how that works. So diuretics are illegal? Yes. Hmm. That's what Chris Cyborg got that works so diuretics are illegal yes that's what

Chris Cyborg got popped for a diuretic but then they gave her a use exemption because she has a legitimate reason

for using it like a medical condition when will they know what he took or will they never know they know what he took there's a process of

they have to it has to play out like what do they think happened what's a process of they have to it has to play out like what do they think happen what's the evidence like they're very very thorough about it it's one of the things i really appreciate about that jeff novitsky is that he one of the things he said about john jones he said before you judge him we have to let this process play out and he's right like did it play out not yet i mean they they got the B sample the B sample is positive as well But it was a lot of weird shit was going on like a lot of his chiropractor was tweeting that John

Passed the blood test free John and like this is so irresponsible Because like anybody who looked into it even for a moment would realize that they don't even test for that stuff in the blood They only test for that stuff in the blood they only test for that stuff in the urine so there was no like when they said his blood test was clear of it it's because they didn't test for it it's a it's a urine test so like it was so disingenuous so then they waited they got the b sample they tested that yup same exact stuff so it's in there so the question is now not whether or not it was in his body, but how did it get in his body? There's a big issue with a bunch of sports guys. What,

what is it? Baseball guys that are getting popped with that stuff. Brendan Shaw brought that up as well. That apparently that stuff, Toronto ball, Toronto ball, whatever the fuck it is. T-ball is in a ton of supplements. You can get in a lot of that gnc over the counter muscle builder bullshit all those testosterone boosters so maybe that could be but you're not supposed to take that shit you shouldn't take that shit you have to come back off a suspension like shouldn't you be sending everything in that's that's it's crazy but they're tainted supplements are a real issue but obviously the thing is don't take any fucking supplements unless they're absolutely approved and certified. And you can get supplements that are approved and certified.

And then there could be a random bad batch. That's totally possible. That happened to somebody. Supplements where a guy never really took a steroid but got popped because something was in a supplement. That happened to Tim Means. Tim Means took some shit from GNC, just some normal shit that's supposed to be

some stuff you could buy off the shelf. And he tested positive and he told everybody what he took. They went to different stores independently, pulled that stuff off the shelf, tested it. Yup, there it is. Steroids. But he still got a six month suspension or did he do a year? Yeah, he's not supposed to pulled that stuff off the shelf, tested it. Yup. There it is. Steroids. But he still got to suppose it's a six month suspension. They do a year. Yeah. He's not

supposed to take that stuff. Like even though it's not illegal, you just, you have to approve everything. And then on top of that, they have a list. They have a, you saw a list on the website that you can go to and find out what's tainted and what's not. Holy shit, dude. It is the craziest thing you've ever seen. It's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of supplements. It's like, there's so much shit that makes you piss hot. It's crazy. What's the most common? What's the most popular? I don't think there's a most popular. They start with muscle farm type stuff. Yeah. They're starting with a, and they work on their way through B and C and D. Yeah, dude, I'm talking hundreds of things. Like Novitsky pulled the website up, and we were laughing.

We were laughing at how many things there were, because it's so absurd. Is there anyone who doesn't take anything, any supplements? Do you know of any fighters that take the most minimum? Sure. There's some guys that just take fruits and vegetables. Yep. Like, uh... The ones from Monsanford and Sundell are, those are tainted.

Monsanford and Sundell? By Nato de la Raja. Just all fruit and vegetables. Yeah, those are tainted. Mon Sanford and Son? By Nato de la Ranja. Just all fruit and vegetables. Yeah, those are tainted. Those are genetically modified. They have a shelf life of 20 years. He posted a Joe Hogan for mayor sign that somebody had put up somewhere. He did?

Yeah. He might not have. Somebody else did, I guess, And they were just talking about him. Jogging. But I think that there's a lot of tainted supplements, for sure. But I think there's a lot of guys using steroids, too. So it's like, which one is it? Did John Jones take a tainted supplement?

Or was John Jones using steroids? Those are the only two options at this point. Because that stuff's in his body. Oh, the other option is somebody dosed him. I thought of that too. What's the next step? How do they find out? Well, they have to do some sort of an investigation.

He has to come clean, talk about everything that he's taken. They have to, if he took something that is not on their list of approved substances and he didn't claim that, if that's the case, he needs a goddamn babysitter. If that's really what happened, if it really was a tainted supplement and just some normal bullshit from a supermarket health food section, who the fuck knows? If it's really just some nonsense, he needs a babysitter.

He needs someone that's around him that he trusts and respects, some mentor figure that does not allow him to take anything stupid and tells him hey man you're the baddest motherfucker of all time and you're about to get put on the shelf for four years over some nonsense matt serra raised a very interesting point about again it was just a speculation but is it possible that this was happening because all those fights happened before USADA. USADA, yeah, except for OSP. Well, there's always going to be that speculation if someone pisses hot. You always got to think, well, if they piss hot in USADA

and back when it wasn't very sophisticated and the drug searching wasn't that sophisticated, maybe they were doing it the whole time. You got to wonder, you know? That's why a guy like Tony Ferguson is so fucking spectacular You know you look at a guy like Tony Ferguson, and he's just got mad focus and work ethic He's just for real He's just ferocious in his in his in his focus and his intent like that guy doesn't need steroids

He just needs food and life. You know he's just gonna keep going He just needs food and life, you know? And he's just going to keep going. He just needs a place to work out, and he'll build it, too. That's the crazy thing. He's up there in Big Bear building gyms. Builds his own fucking rolling room. He's got video of it and photos of it and shit.

They matted out a room. He nailed all the boards down and shit. He built a bag stand. Yeah. Like a workout little... Of course he did. Yeah, he's... Why does he do that? He just likes the act of doing it. He is the kind of guy that if shit at the fan

And we it was an apocalypse Like he's the guy that you're gonna want yeah to hang out with he's gonna build your house He's gonna shelter yeah, and all you got to do is just make sure everything's clean when he gets I'm not that guy Like a beta and I beg clean when he gets i'm not that guy you just grow up like a beta and i beg yeah well that's what community is all about supposed to have one of those guys one guy like you supposed to have one guy like eddie i mean that's that's what a real community is the idea that everybody has to be the guy that could build a bag stand but he can he does everything man he cleans he cleans the cabin he's on fire dude he's just always on fire. He'll go for a run through these hills and these mountains and these streets,

and he'll have a crew with him running. And I'm in the car because I have a torn ACL, so I'm in my car following them. And he'll beat them by so much and then come back for them and then go and then come back for them. These are all professional athletes. His endurance is insane. He's into doing extra credit.

If we're going to do 10 rounds of sprints, he'll do 12. He's always going to go extra. What's going on with your knee? Tore ACL, tore MCL. Is it partially torn? Is that what the deal is? Yeah, it's not torn. Did you talk to Dr. Roddy McGee?

He's talking about surgery. And my doctor, we're talking about let's try to rehab it and see what happens first and then you could always get surgery later he said has it you know with me I told you that all I did was just stretch out and I just stood up and my knee just fell apart right it came out and I had to pop it back in. And then I got an MRI the next day. And it came back partial tear on the ACL, torn MCL. You really don't need surgery for the MCL. Those, apparently, they just heal by themselves.

You just got to stay off them. What's the difference between the ACL and the MCL? The ACL, I'm on the fence. I could have surgery right now or I could try to rehab it. What's what? ACL is the anterior cruciate ligament. It's the ligament that stabilizes the knee, keeps it from popping forward. I've had both my ACLs reconstructed.

From fighting? One of them from jujitsu, one of them from taekwondo. And it popped out three weeks later. I was doing a seminar at 10th Planet Oceanside, and right there in the middle of the seminar, boom, it came out again. Yeah, it's going to pop out. I'm in front of it. I'm just like, ah. If it pops out that much, man, I would go to a different doctor.

I'd go to Roddy McGee, man. Just go to him in Vegas. I talked to him. And he seems totally legit. But what he's talking about is the surgery, the new kind of surgery that they're doing. The new surgery, the healing is only three months. They don't use a cadaver anymore. Now they reattach, and you're a perfect candidate for it

because your shit's not totally torn apart. They reattach, and they re-sew it up. And one dude did it, and five months later, he competed in the Olympics. The recovery time is so much different because what they're doing now is repairing your ligament, whereas before, what they were doing is putting in an artificial ligament, and then that ligament would act as a scaffolding. So not artificial, but a donor.

Like I have a donor on my right one. Cadaver? From a cadaver. You could do cadaver, patella, or hamstring. I had patella on my left and cadaver on my right. How's your left feeling? Both of them are awesome. Left is awesome?

Both of them are awesome. Apparently, people are moving away a little bit from cadavers because sometimes you can get an infection. Like Benji Radek, he had his ACL, a cadaver ACL, and he got infected somehow. I think he got infected from the surgery. He got staffed from the surgery, which is super common. Yeah, it's common from the cadaver. It's the actual tendon.

Well, you know, MRSA is just something that's in hotels. I know the doctor that I'm going to is the one who did his. Yeah, but there's no way to tell whether it was from the actual surgery itself, from cutting you open. Because a lot of people get it from any sort of simple operation, they can get MRSA. He stopped doing cadavers. He don't do cadavers. He just does patellas. Well, now what Dr. McGee was saying is the most latest cutting-edge shit.

You don't even have to do that. Now what they're doing is they're taking this torn stuff, and he had pictures of it and images of the actual surgery. They stitch it together and rope it down and literally stitch it together. And they have this technique that they do. And then you're up and moving. You're up and moving, and within three and moving and within three months it's 100 instead of six months what's the technique where they just kind of cocoon it with a bunch of rows of stitches crazy looking like apparatus the way they were doing it the way they had it

stitched up like some crazy fishing knot but uh apparently it worked amazing because they he had some videos of this guy a few months post-surgery doing box jumps and I was like this is crazy doing side box jumps like hopping on top of things hopping on top of another thing jumping over things left and right I was like that is incredible for someone to go from ACL surgery do like that was a that's a recipe for blowing your knee apart three because I remember after I got in mine for like six months I was terrified to do anything like and when i first came back to jujitsu i was terrified i was like oh oh oh like every time i roll it's like please don't fall apart please don't fall apart because if you fall apart six months so hard to do and how long till you're doing it when you're like all right it's not

gonna fall apart a couple months like eight months and i realized i was like this is pretty good i'm feeling pretty good. I didn't throw any kicks forever. I didn't kick the bag forever. And when I did jujitsu, like if anybody even went for my leg, I would tell them, like, please don't yank on this one. This one's still ginger. And it was like, I wouldn't like try to explode with it and push off with it.

I was real gentle, gentle on it. This fight's about to go down. Ha, ha, ha. What do you think eddie bravo initial thoughts i don't know does luke rockhold get the same guy after getting KO'd by bisping that's a hard hard one to call it's been a long time outside the octagon jim norton what do you think you're the host of ufc uncensored uh i'm taking david branch oh new yorker goes with the new yorker you have to david Branch moving towards him, dropping some shots. Luke Rockhold's got a powerful left kick.

Yeah. Strong left kick. And he landed it a few times to the body already. It's a legit kick, and he catches you with it way outside. And Luke Rockhold's super hard to take down. He trains all the time with Daniel Cormier and Cain Velasquez. He's got all these monster wrestlers over there, Habib Nurmagomedov. You think Branch wants to take him down?

He might. He's got a very good ground game. Doesn't Rockhold have a spinning sidekick KO finish? No, he got wheel kicked in the head by Vitor Belfort. And then he got Chris Weidman tried to wheel kick him, and he took Weidman to the ground and beat the fuck out of him. Yeah, that was the beginning of the end right there. It was crazy because up until that, it was like a really competitive fight.

Branch is doing a good job of circling to his left to avoid that left kick. Oh, but he landed it right there. Branch is doing a real good job. Oh, he's putting Rockhold in danger. There it is. There it is. There it is. There it is. There it is.

Oh, he teed off on him. Oh, my God. Rockhold's in trouble. This is a real fight. Oh, my God. He's taking Rockhold down. That's how you know Rockhold's in big trouble. I think he should have stayed standing.

Rockhold's super hard to take down. He should have stayed standing. Maybe, but he lets him know. He could take him down. God damn, this is legit. And he just looked over at his friend and waved and said, I'm okay. Or his coach, his corner. But he didn't look okay.

He got hit with bombs, man. You're never okay when you get hit with those kind of bombs. You might not have gone out, but you're not okay. See, fucking MMA is so much different than boxing. These two fights highlight it. You guys barely know who Mike Perry is, right? But meanwhile, he's so invested in that fight. Chaos, right?

And this fight, this is fucking chaos. In so many different ways. 118 to 110. That's going to ruin my fucking weekend. Adelaide Bird, she's a very nice lady. I can't say anything terrible. But that's where it is. She's always very pleasant.

She always waves and says hello. I mean, just because I don't think I agree with her in boxing. Yeah. Not mad at the lady. At what point do judges get removed for poor officiating? That's a good question. Or does that ever happen? Well, back in the old days, the Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn't being run very well.

Bob Bennett, the guy who runs it now, is an animal. He's on the ball. He's really good. And he's really smart. And he's just a real easy guy to talk to, too. And, you know, he wants what's best. But that's the boxing commission, though, right? Totally different commission, right?

No, he's Nevada State Athletic Commission. It's the same thing. Yeah, he handles all that stuff. So most likely he'll probably be looking into that. Do they ever get booted, though, if it's not corruption? If they literally just think this guy sucks at making decisions, do they ever get kicked out like you've fucked up too many times? It's a good question.

I don't know enough about boxing. I know when there's a bad decision, and I know names that I keep hearing, but it's not like I know MMA judges. That's a disgraceful score. Disgraceful, I agree. And has she had a disgraceful score disgraceful agree and has she had an us another yeah They're just like she's had some terrible decisions in terms of what I think about the call. Oh look out for the knees son He's trying to trip branch down Luke Rockhold super strong super strong top game branch might be fading a bit here

nope Branch still looking at wings from shots One of the things that branch thought was a big factor in this fight was his boxing. But he's got to avoid those kicks, especially the left one, man. The left one's the big one for Rockhold. And he'll do it off the switch. Ooh, that's a nice right leg kick. He'll do it off the switch, and he's got a nasty question mark kick.

His question mark kick is what he used to crack Bisping with because he hits you with the body shots like over and over and over again and Then he gets you reaching so he throws one like this to the body and then at the last minute He whips it around over the top. He's nasty with that really good with that. That's like one of his best techniques That in his left power kick that left power kick to the body. It's just so good He stopped cops to Philippou with that left body kick as well. Oh, we so good he stopped cops to filippo with that left body kick as well oh he went jumping round kicking a nice straight left he said no no no he certainly looks like he recovered yeah he recovered for sure oh he just clipped david branch with a right hook

look rocco does not want to go out like that bisping fight see here's the clinch what you're talking about yeah see it's just way harder to pull off. There's just too much scrambling in MMA and looking for takedowns and stuff. Look at that, Luke Rockhold, get in the back. Get in the back. Oh, shit, David Branch almost goes down.

Oh, look at that. Luke Rockhold on top, very dangerous on top. Super strong, and Branch is tired as fuck, man. Rockhold looks like a surgeon here branch is doing a good job that protecting him one thing Rockhold's got to watch out for us his legs What is wrong the Henzo Gracie school? What's his motive and put him up against the cage when he's nobody smash the wall? They can't move he wants to just hold them somewhere.

Ooh, look at that makeup. Dude. Look at that shit. Yeah, just smash them. Rockhold came on strong towards the end of that round. There's nothing more claustrophobic than watching that when someone's mushed up against the cage. Like that Khabib-Johnson fight. That's probably the most claustrophobic I've ever been watching a fight

That was one of the worst ones ever There's an art to smashing a guy against that fence Keeping him there and landing shots And wearing him out and just smashing him It takes you back to when you're 10 years old That's how I got beat up when I was a kid You're just helpless in a corner Dude, that happened to me when I was 14

That's when I started wrestling This guy took me down in the locker room And he was was, like, going to punch me in the head, but he decided not to because it was so easy for him to take me down. He just grabbed me in a headlock. I didn't even know if we were fighting. Like, I didn't know what was going on. Like, we were looking at each other, and he was talking some shit, and I wasn't exactly sure, like, what we were going to do.

And then all of a sudden, we were grabbing each other, and he just got me in a headlock and threw me on the ground and held me there and could have easily punched my face in to this day i owe him a debt of gratitude changed your life he did change my life because he made me realize like oh my god and then i had a friend my friend steven arduino he was a wrestler in uh high school and i was already doing uh martial arts then and i just had no idea how easy it was for someone to take me down. We went outside on the grass and he was like, I can take you down easy. I was like, no you can't.

He's like, boom. I was like, fuck that. Try again. Boom. I was like, oh my god, I gotta start wrestling. So those two events led me to wrestling class. I wrestled in high school and I was terrible. I was probably one of the worst wrestlers in high school history. I got one takedown i would never take anybody down i was always afraid that i was going to catch a knee in my teeth so i would just sprawl on dudes that

took down they tried to take me down that was my game plan but regular people when i'd get in a fight i would take them down and i always felt like i was cheating but i didn't care because you use wrestling yeah i go you know what i don't give a fuck. If someone fucks with me, I'm going to double leg them. And then I'd get like twister psych from a punch to their stomach. I did that to a soccer player. He was talking shit in school, and I took him down. Isn't it funny that you would think that it would be cheating? I didn't think it was real fighting back then.

So when I saw Hoyce, when I saw Hoyce in UFC 2, I'm like, oh shit, you could take dudes down and fight? That's legit? He's hurting that leg, by the way. Rockhold is really hurting that leg. Both guys are hurting their legs. Rockhold has been landing a bunch of hard leg kicks on Branch, too. This is a serious fight.

No, that's what I mean. He's been hurting Branch's leg. Oh, yeah, but Rockhold's hurt, too, man. This is a real fight. Very good fight. Is it funny now, like, a fight where two guys take each other down? It's, like, totally standard. Like, no kids today would ever think that would be cheating.

Like, that's how you fight, motherfucker. If someone takes someone down, like, oh, shit, ground and pound. Kids know the moves. Yeah. Side control. You see fight videos, just street fight videos, where someone takes someone down and they tap? Like, that's, like, the understood move now?

It's hilarious. But look, if people can tap in street fights, the world would be a better place. Yeah. Because if somebody leaves you alone after you tap and they let it alone, like if two guys agree to fight and then someone taps and then the guy respects the tap, that's good. That happens. I hope it does. I hope it happens more often.

I guess it all depends on what push you to fight to begin with, though. Yeah, for sure. You're not signing the contract. Some guy fucked your chick. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Boom. Some of the craziest shit is girls fighting because it's so primal,

especially when they don't know how to fight. Yeah. And they're grabbing hair and just screaming. Wings come off. It's awesome. They're all just wailing at each other. See, the thing about Rockhold is he's so used to this shit because he's in the gym with DC and Kane doing this.

So there's very few guys that are going to have the kind of clinch game that Rockhold's going to have. And the kind of grappling, like grinding skills that Rockhold's going to have because he's been doing it with these fucking monsters. Look at that. Yeah. And he's passed. Oh, the full mountcha.

Full mountcha. Not good for Branch. Super bad for Branch. Let's see if he gives up his back and trying to get out. That's super dangerous. Don't panic. Let's see if he panics. He's got to figure out a way to defend himself.

Oh, look at this. He's giving up his back. He's giving up his back. Giving up his back. He's going to handcuff him. Oh, he got that back. Oh, he's flattened. This is terrible. Plenty of time. Branches in a world of shit. Dude, Rockhold does this to everybody, man.

He gets on top of you and he just smashes you. It's so impressive. He did this to Vitor, right? Look at his top mount. No, he did it to Liotto. Liotto Machida. Oh, Branch is in trouble. Vitor wheel kicked him in the head, remember?

Oh, that's right. Dude, Branch is in serious trouble. He's going to flatten him out. That's a serious mount, man. That back mount is out of control. His mount and his back mount, his top game is just fucking ferocious.

Oh, Branch is done. He's done. He's waiting for them to rescue him. He's just covering up. Dan's giving him a lot of chances here. He's taking a fucking

bad beat. He tapped. He tapped. He tapped. That's it. Tap to strikes. Tap to strikes. Great fight. Fuck yeah, that strikes. Great fight.

Fuck yeah, that was a great fight. Dude, Brock holds top game. Might be the best in the fucking division. He might be better than Romero. He might be better than Shaq. He's a black belt, right? Yeah, he's a black belt. Under who?

I don't know. I don't know who they're... It's not... Oh, it's an AK. It's not Dave Camarillo. Maybe it's Dave Camarillo. Yeah. How long has he been an AKA? It's forever. Is Dave Camarillo. Maybe it's Dave Camarillo. How long has he been at AKA?

It's forever. Is Dave Camarillo still in AKA? No. But a lot of guys train with him still. A lot of guys still go over there. Did you start his mouthpiece? Yeah. Threw it to somebody.

That's a joy. Would you suck on that? No, I wouldn't. Would you put it in your mouth? No, I wouldn't. Girls would. Some girls would. Some girls want to get pregnant with that spit.

I'll get you pregnant. I guess Girls would. Some girls would. Some girls want to get pregnant with that spit. Get you pregnant. I guess it would depend on the fighter. Boom. I got a text message from Vinnie Shorman. Fucking Adelaide Bird again. A lot of people are aware that Adela Byrd doesn't have the best decisions. Boom, boom, boom, boom. She's trending.

Jamie knows who's trending. Would you ever know who's trending? Never. Not even with me. Would you ever have any idea ever who's trending? What was that? Would you ever have any idea who's trending? No.

Just ask Jamie. Oh. Is Justin Bieber still trending? He's not allowed to be. Is he still on top? He can't be. Can't you trend two different ways, too? Like, locally?

Like, I've had guys go, dude, you're trending, but I'm not. It's like a fucking local. Like, in Jersey, I'm trending compared to other Jersey people. Nice. How does that work? How do you trend in Jersey? I don't know. There's a way to do it location-wise, like, where it gets your hopes up and you realize,

oh, no one fucking cares. Luke Rockhold, put the beat down. But I'll tell you what, man, David Branch made it a scrap. Made it a scrap for the beginning until Luke Rockhold wore on him. With that pressure, that clinch, and that wrestling, too. I'm telling you, man, all those years with Kane and DC, I mean, you don't get any better wrestling than that. You don't get any better, more savage, big, giant dudes than those two. Think about it.

Olympic-class wrestler and arguably the greatest UFC heavyweight ever. But who helps Kane like that? Because obviously he's heavier than Quame. Not much. Not much. DC walks around all the time at 235, 240. He even said he was feeling kind of slim, like, this time after the fight. You know, we did commentary last weekend.

And he said he was usually, he'd be at, like, 235 by now. But he was lighter than that. I think he was, like, 215 or 220 or something like that. But he'll get up to 235. So, like, Kane's 240. So, they're in the neighborhood of each other. Like, five pounds difference with a world-class grappling like those two guys have. They're just going to war constantly.

It's always a problem though for big guys, guys 250 and above, finding training partners. It's tough. Especially in jiu-jitsu schools. Man, it's tough. We don't have very many big guys. Right now, in my class, I think the biggest guy, 200 pounds. That's crazy. That's it.

What a fight, man, huh? Isn't that crazy? Luke Rockhold. I'll tell you, dude, when that guy gets people down, they are not getting up. He has one of the best fucking top games. You don't see a lot of tap outs due to strikes. A lot of people don't do it. They don't believe in it.

A lot of people have said like, that's a bitch move. I don't think it is even, even a little bit. I think it's a smart move when you're getting hit and you're getting fucked up and you know, you're not going to recover, you know,

and the fight's over. There's no need to take extra shots. If you know that you're done, just tap. But it's seen as a bitch. They see fighters do this. Well, a lot of people, like George St. Pierre, that's one of the things that BJ Penn was taunting him about,

how he tapped with strikes against Matt when Matt beat him. Matt beat the shit out of him and clipped him with a big right hand early, got on top of him, banged him out, and then GSP tapped the strikes. And BJ was like, I would never tap the strikes. But really, maybe some of those career fights he should have tapped the strikes. Yeah, if you know you've got nothing left, why not? Yeah. Getting out of what?

Is that about Bisping? I don't know. That's some bad trash talking. I'm thinking it's Bisping? I don't know That's some bad trash talking I'm thinking it's Bisping Because he's saying it's his fight So I think he feels He should be fighting for the belt And not GSP

Oh man You're getting credit for taking that And surviving that first round Yeah he was in trouble dude He was in trouble for sure That tight clinch stopped the strikes Yep This is what stops everything man His fucking smush game in that first round. Yeah, he was in trouble, dude. He was in trouble for sure. That tight clinch stopped the strikes. Yep. This is what stops everything, man.

His fucking smush game. Look at that step over mount. Made no resistance in getting that mount. He just overwhelmed Branch. Branch just couldn't keep up that pace. You know, Luke Brock holds... I mean, he's the reason why he was the champ. He's fucking world class.

November, Madison Square Garden. Whoa, so he's telling GSP to back out. Well, there's people who still think that GSP is not going to make that fight. Yeah, there's a lot of people who think that GSP's crazy now. He's lost his marbles. Why? Didn't he keep delaying it? Well, because of the time lapse thing and the

ufo thing that he kept talking about aliens like he was obsessed with aliens to the point where they wanted to leave it out of uh one of the ufc countdown shows no way he talked a lot about it yes yeah he's trying to tell us we're not listening there was some he talked about it on my podcast man talked about uh he thinks that like sometimes he that sometimes he'll be missing time and then he'll be somewhere else. It wasn't comfortable listening to. Didn't you point it out to him that that was some kind of a trauma? Yeah. Well, that's one of the main signs of trauma.

Loss of memory is one of the big ones. When you start talking about missing time and aliens like whoa okay why would you think it would be aliens when you got hit 800 times like he's he was hit more than 800 times in his ufc career he's like no no no i'm fine with that aliens are fucking with me dude damn it's crazy maybe it's true maybe it is imagine if we're like we're joking around about it I mean while every night while GSP sleeping his body freezes The room fills up with blue light little dudes like fucking walk right through the walls And he's like no don't take me again

They want that perfect super athlete GSP DNA they take him to the spaceship. This is a cartoon. Yeah, they want to get that DNA. They want that perfect super athlete GSP DNA. They take him there and they have a whole Under Armour lab in space. They do an anal probe in him and then he turns around and goes, I am not impressed. Why is it always your butt, man? They're always playing with your butt. Regular doctors don't. Something about the butt.

I think it's like that's how they they test the blood see what you're eating plus they probably know it bothers us i bet you could learn a lot from shit dude what if they started giving poop samples like that was more accurate than than piss i mean we have no problem with piss samples shit samples we didn't shit like hey pee in the cup pee in the cup everybody's like all right can't believe you're making me do this but i'll do it like if ups made you shit in a bucket yeah cellophane the top we found a new there's a new blood drug test but we need your shit it's the only way you're really no way you're gonna yes you're gonna be this yeah you can't fake the shit and we have to have at least four pounds of it

Dude getting the friends to shit for them Dude, I need your shit. Dude. Dude. Dude. You just hide in the fucking air duct You have like a bag of shit like tap the wall twice and you drop down like a fucking demon Take a shit in my bucket and climb back up there, bro. We're gonna get caught demon take a shit in my bucket and climb back up there. Bro, we're gonna get caught. We tested his shit. Listen, you been eating good? Like, you eat a lot of fiber? Like, can you shit on command? There's gonna be dogs that can smell.

There'll be, like, steroid-sniffing dogs. They'll just send a fucking beagle in. If they start eating your shit, that means you're guilty. Dude, I got this puppy, and when he was little, as the shit would be coming out of his butt,

he'd be turning around trying to eat it. Damn. He's taking a shit, he's like, oh, I'm gonna get some of that. No. Puppies are weird, man. They smell shit, and they're babies.

They think it's food. Yeah, they don't understand. That's a bad move. Literally, like soft-serve ice cream coming out of his ass. Don't their noses like a thousand times stronger than ours? Yeah, but they don't think it's bad. Can you imagine what shit smells like to them?

They like the smell of shit. It's so bad, they like it. It's like it just flips out of like it's a defense mechanism. Well, no, they like rotting bodies too. Dogs. Yeah, dogs find like a dead beaver or some shit. They'll roll around in it. They like it on their skin. It's skin It's really we're supposed to like it

Maybe we've been brainwashed into not liking it because we're supposed to eat bugs right we're supposed to eat Insects right it was a smart thing to eat right wouldn't it be I mean we wouldn't need to go to supermarket if we'd like Bugs which is eat bugs we just trap Are we supposed to eat them or only up to a certain point like once you can make shit? There's no need to eat them anymore. I think we're supposed to eat insects. Yeah, I was listening to a lecture about this where they were talking about, okay, no, it was Terrence McKenna.

That's who it was. And he was talking about how we used to be insectivores. And so that reward system is still in our consciousness. That's why people get super excited when they catch a bug. System is still in our consciousness. That's why people get super excited when they catch a bug I'll give you like that's why people like those butterfly kept catchers They're like they collect butterflies and shit and they capture them like there's a whole like group of people You know you can't trophy hunt like no one like no you know like people don't like trophy hunters

Yeah, like it's gross you go over there shoot rhinos and put them on your wall Collecting butterflies is totally fine. Nobody gives a fuck about butterflies. They kill them once they get them, right? Well, they don't last long anyway, so that's actually, I guess, the mindset. But there's people that collect them, like serial killers. Are they in a fight? They have these butterflies pressed up on the glass, and they've collected all these from all over the globe.

Aren't they beautiful? They're killing all these bugs. They're like trophy hunters, but for bugs. That's one step above throwing a fat girl in your well. Anybody out there fighting for bug rights? Well, I'll tell you when it could happen. It is possible that it could happen someday. There's a bunch of different people in different parts of the world that eat crickets.

And cricket protein is really rich. It's very good. Cricket protein is very good for you. Yeah, cricket protein powder right there. People are starting to turn towards crickets for animal protein, for vitamin B12, for a lot of things. And a lot of people that might have ethical issues with eating animal protein don't have it with bugs.

Maybe insectivore will be a thing. People don't want to necessarily commit to being vegan, but they don't want it with bugs like maybe insectivore will be like a thing like people don't want to necessarily commit to being vegan but they don't want animals to suffer but they're cool with eating crickets like that that would actually be a good health move like you could get a lot of really rich protein like look at all the fucking look at all the shit that's in in like in crickets like how many crickets how many crickets you get out of 10 gallons of water? They're going to be in there anyways? So for 100 gallons of water, you get 71 grams of crickets versus 19 grams of chicken.

I don't really know what this means. I don't either. It's just a weird thing. That must be protein. Protein versus the amount of weight of body mass of the animal. Because I would imagine crickets use very little water, right? They're creepy little bugs. That's how much they use to create that much.

Yeah, yeah, how much water they use to create that much protein. Right, whereas cows drink water, chickens do. They need actual water. How long before some asshole comes out and tries to defend cricket rights? It'll happen. It'll also happen with robots. As soon as we start making human-looking robots that do shit for us, somebody will start to say you have to treat them a certain way. It may or. It'll also happen with robots. As soon as we start making human looking robots that do shit for us, somebody will start to say you have to treat them a certain

way. It may or may not happen in our lifetime. Robot rights. Without a doubt. Guaranteed. There's a real problem that if we figure out that plants have consciousness, and they know that plants do have some consciousness. Do they really? Yeah, they know there's some communication going on between plants. It's just not what we think of as consciousness. First of all,

because it doesn't entail moving. But there's some sort of information that's being passed on. In fact, plants have chemical reactions to being preyed upon. Like plants change their flavor profile. Like they'll make themselves disgusting for animals to eat

just based on whether or not an animal's trying to eat them. So if something eats them, it changes the smell of all the animals around them, or all the plants rather, around them, and then they change, like for the acacia bush, they study these things when they go downwind. Like one will get eaten by a giraffe, and then the wind will catch the other trees, and the other trees will become inedible to the giraffe.

It's fucked. It's crazy. There's some sort of communication. Do they feel pain? I always ask I have my stuff trimmed Once in a while I'm like Does that fucking Does that hurt? I really The woman with the

Smappy in the face You can't abuse plants It's a good question Like what is pain though Right? Because our pain Might have to do Entirely with movement

In our central nervous system Which plants definitely Don't have So even though They're a living thing They might have consciousness But they might not Be experiencing pain

But they do know That they have some Crazy relationship With fungus and that the fungus are extracting minerals from the dirt. There's like mycelium under the ground and they have some sort of relationship with the root system. And there's a whole community and there's like exchanges going on and like these ecosystems of plants. Like when you see a jungle, we think about a bunch of individual plants. But they're all working together. They're all like synced up in some way that we're too stupid and self-centered to consider.

Plants give me the creeps. I like them. They fucking creep me out, man. I'll beat the fuck out of a plant. Just because there's bugs and there's so much about them I don't get and the fungus, they really do freak me out. Anybody thinks they understand plants, look at Venus flytraps, okay? That's a plant that kills bugs.

Look at this fucking plant in I want to say Ecuador. Is that where it's from? There's this plant that looks like a flower and mice and rats go around the edge of it because it smells sweet and it smells like rotting meat in there and they fall in

and this thing closes up on them and they absorb it and eat it. They eat rats. Oh, that goes right there. Check that out. Can you back that up

so I can see it? They used to sell Venus fly traps. You could order one. Remember that shit? Look at this shit. You could order one. This mouse is like,

man, this shit smells good. Whoops, I'm in there and now I'm dead. Can't get out. Is it slippery on the sides or does the plant do anything? The whole thing is just super slippery. The mouse, it. Whoops, I'm in there now. I'm dead. Can't get out. Is it slippery on the sides? Does the plant do anything? The whole thing is just super slippery. Like the mouse, it has a delicious smell.

So the mouse comes there and just falls right in the hole. Like it's an accident. A frog, bitch. Boom. Venus flytrap eats a fucking frog, son. Ugh. And how does the Venus flytrap actually eat it? Crush it to death?

What if it's an accident? What if it's not trying to eat it? It's like just a reaction and then they just die and then somehow it just, like fertilizer just feeds it but it's an accident. Like that rat that fell in that plant, that could be just like a glitch in the design. Like dude, rats just falling in and it ends up being fertilizer anyways. Well, all sort of changes in plants or in animals is all like natural selection, right?

So there has to be some random mutations, and then some of them stick. I think the plant's going, fuck, another rat. Shit, it's going to just smell the place up. God damn it. Or maybe mice were eating it, and slowly but surely figured out a way over millions of years to trick those

fucking mice into falling into a big... I think it's just a coincidence. It's a coincidence. So wait, they fall in there and they starve to death? How do they die? No, they get absorbed by the plant. What is this? Is there...

I don't know. There's some sort of a digestive breakdown that happens. That just digests them while they're alive? Something happens. Oh, what a shit way to go. Oh, ho, ho, ho. It eventually dies in there. But the frog, with the Venus flytrap, I didn't even know they could eat a frog. That's a fucked up way to go. It eventually dies in there. But the frog with the Venus flytrap, I didn't even know they could eat a frog.

That's a fucked up way to go. Yeah. A plant clamps down on you. Imagine if you're walking through the jungle. They need to try to breed gigantic ones of those. Dude, why can't they? And plant them in your house. That's something you would have, right?

You had piranha. What's all the crazy shit you had Besides piranha That was the craziest I was thinking about getting crocodiles at one point Are they legal or no? You wanted a lion Exactly

Dude Venus flytrap That's gangster Yeah And breeding giant ones Yeah big ones Big ones Hire some scientists Some what do you call those dudes

Botanists Treeologist Yeah treeologist A tree scientist That's actually a great idea Someone should do that Some, what do you call those dudes? Botanists. Treeologists. Yeah, treeologists. A tree scientist. That's actually a great idea. Someone should do that. Make giant ones.

That's your security system. What climate do you need for a Venus flytrap? Why don't you come try to rob me? I dare you. I love you, bro. Perfect. You can grow them here? Yeah. But you know what, as an animal, what a dick you must feel like when a plant catches you?

So bad. How fucking humiliating. Imagine if you were walking through the jungle. It's probably the retards, huh? Caught by some plant that they didn't know about yet because there's like Hundreds of thousands of different species in the Amazon and there's places in the Amazon that people just don't go This is no one there, and if there are people they like these uncontacted tribes They find these villages like what the fuck are you doing here? And they're like what are you like this people to this day that are like these uncontacted tribes in the middle of the Amazon

I read somewhere that 90% of the bugs in the Amazon don't have names because they just evolved so quick They just can't keep up with the evolution. I don't know that's sure enough Oh, no, there's a bunch of bugs that don't have names, but I'll tell you this one I went to coast I got tricked into going to Costa Rica once We were going Costa Rica party Cancun. I was thinking Cancun the whole time going to Costa Rica once. I love Costa Rica. I thought we were going to Costa Rica, party Cancun. I was thinking Cancun the whole time. Going to Costa Rica, there's a bunch of people waiting. I'm thinking Cancun, Cancun.

I didn't know we were going into the jungle. We went into the jungle and went at night to sleep in the jungle. A mansion in the jungle. That's a mansion I could have. But still, you're in the middle of the jungle. And at night, holy shit, I just doused myself. I bought all the off at the, they had a village and they had like a little convenience store. I cleaned them out because I'm scared of bugs and I didn't want to really let anybody know that I was a big pussy about bugs.

I got tricked into going. I literally used off as gel in my hair and put it all over my face because I knew when that sun went down, it was going to get nuts. Even in the mansion, you were worried about getting bitten? We were all hanging out outside. It was so hot. And the mansion has open ceilings. It's open air. Oh, dude.

It was a complete nightmare. But my point is at night, every night, we'd all sit in front of the pool. First, you'd see all the frogs coming out of nowhere. And that first night, it was so trippy. The that live there go you're gonna love these frogs don't be scared they're the ones that are gonna save your ass all these frogs are everywhere and all of a sudden the bugs just start coming out and it's it really is like braveheart it's a bunch of frogs and you see them you don't have to wait and you just see them just going after bugs it's just a war and the guy the guy that lived in the house that was watching the house, he goes, you're going to love this.

It's just chaos. So they're preventing you from getting bitten. What was that? They're preventing you from getting bitten by just eating the fucking bugs. The off was preventing that.

I was cool. They didn't come around me, but I swear, only once did I ever see a bug of the same species. They were all different. They were all moths that looked like mosquitoes,

that looked like centipedes, that look like stick. They were all different. And it was all open air, too, right? So they were flying in your room and shit? Dude. I could talk about this for an hour, but they tricked me. It was a nightmare.

Did they trick you on purpose? Because the people that liked it, they're the kind of people that have a giant spider moth lands on their shoulder. They go, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. You know, like one of those dudes? You know what I mean? Yeah, they're unafraid of bugs. You know those dudes that don't give a shit about bugs?

If you like Costa Rica, if you want to move there, you're 100% one of those guys that doesn't mind bugs. Did you have a net around you when you slept? You're supposed to, but no one told me to bring a fucking net. And there was no more nets. You had to bring your own net? What a shithole. Dude, the first, I walked in there. As soon as we're driving in this bus through the jungle, I'm going, oh my God.

How many days? Seven. It was a nightmare. Every night was a nightmare. It was a nightmare, but I had to keep it inside. Because there was girls, and I was single. It was like a slasher movie. And so I didn't say anything.

I just knew it. I'm like, damn, I thought it was going to be like Cancun shit. So we get we get to the mansion. We get to the mansion. I have. And they go, your room's there. Your room's there. Everyone's got their own rooms.

There's a couple of couples. They had a room. And as soon I'm already tripping. I go, fuck, when the sun comes down, holy shit, I'm a big, gigantic vagina when it comes to bugs. Like, moths scare the shit out of me. I'm a big pussy.

And we're going into the jungle. That's all I was thinking about. Oh my God. Oh my God. So as soon as I walk into my room, I notice that it's all open air. And I look up and there's about 40, 50 bees in my room, 40, 50 bees. Are they nesting in your room? They're just flying all over the fucking place. So I dropped my bags and I go downstairs and the guy that's watching the mansion, old Vietnam vet,

white guy who left civil, all those guys that live down there, they leave their jobs, they leave their family, they try a new life, then they hate it. And now they can't go back. Now they can't go back because they left everything. But anyways, so i went downstairs and i talked to this vietnam vet i'm like is there supposed to be a bunch of bees in my room like ah just turn on the ceiling fan on low don't turn it too high it'll just you just want it to be uncomfortable for them and then in a couple hours they'll be gone they don't like that little breeze i'm like okay all right and i'm thinking what about at night when the bugs just flood in and he said oh you need a you need a net to sleep in like shit where do you get those it was uh they're usually sold out you know and they were

sold out there was no net so i slept every night every night i first of all i was complaining about the bees. I was like, I had to let it out. I held it in. And I said, dude, do you guys have bees in your room? They go, yeah, we got bees too. I'm like, oh my God. So I started complaining about bees. And then a girl goes, okay, Captain Bee Watch, we get it.

You don't like bees. And then at that point, I'm like, fuck, I got to shut the fuck up. No more peep out of me. No, someone calls you Captain Bee-watch cunt is the appropriate response Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I never said shit. I held it in Every night was a nightmare. I slept in the sheet like completely covered you could just hear And we know that when I had to take a leak the bathroom again if you like that You don't you don't care about bugs. So they want crazy shit like a bathroom.

When you open the door and there's a bathroom, there's no walls and there's no ceiling. It's like an outside bathroom. They like that shit. They like that shit. Who would like that? People that don't mind bugs. If you like the jungle, that means you don't mind bugs. It's like there's like, I think 60% of the population that don't mind bugs.

40% are terrified. I'm terrified. It's like there's like I think 60% of the population that don't mind bugs. 40% are terrified. I'm terrified. Did you ever see those videos of that guy that pets hornets? I watched videos of this guy that go on YouTube. There's a guy who will gently stroke wasps and hornets. He has like really fucking creepy fingernails. But he touches

bees. That's probably my greatest fear is bees. Every night. Nightmare. I'll never go to a jungle ever again in my life. Did you get ever go to a jungle you get stuck again in my life? Did you just don't know how much off on me? I was completely doused it off pets the bees, but he actually does it with other this one probably has that's looks It looks like I'm not stinging him. Yeah, that one probably has no stingers probably in Japanese hornet They're away from the nest, but this one may not have a stinger. But this guy, he does it on the nest. I've seen guys petting them on the nest.

Yeah, this guy could live in Costa Rica, no problem. That might not have a stinger. He'd fucking love it. I don't know, man. That looks like a stinger to me. People love those things. Yeah, they put honey on their finger and it just fucking, it comes up. Yeah, that thing's trying to jack him, man.

Is it trying to sting him, though? Yeah, he's just avoiding it. He keeps trying to jack him. I wish Is he trying to sting him, though? Yeah, he's just avoiding it. He keeps trying to jack him. I wish I had those powers. I wish there was a pill that could make me feel like that. Why would you want to do that? I would take some pharmaceutical. Get rid of the fear of bugs.

You gotta be on it every day. Let me ask you this. What if the shit hit the fan? North Korea blows up the United States. United States blows up North Korea. We go to war with Russia. We go to war with Russia. We go to war with China. This place is a disaster, but you can live in Costa Rica still. It's safe.

You just got to deal with bugs. Eddie? I would go. You would get dapped. I would deal with it. You would adapt. I would deal with it. You'd adapt.

You would adapt, but I couldn't. Bugs really, it's a really weird, I don't know how anybody can be comfortable around them. You'd get used to it. I have silverfish in my apartment They fucking disgust me Those little creepy things They're creepy Fucking horrible

Tell me creepy about them I was doused I doused myself every morning With fresh coat Did that make you feel creepy? I didn't give a shit No I mean like Did it make your body feel weird?

Fuck no It was worth it The bugs didn't want I had too much on me Did you shower? Dude I put it all over my face All over my hair, in my balls. I didn't want to get bit in the dick.

There's this stuff. You know what lidocaine is? Sounds familiar. Painkiller? Yeah, it's like a numbing cream. I had a bad sunburn once, like real bad. I was in Mexico, and I was sitting out on the beach, and I was not paying attention. And I didn't realize how bad I got burnt.

My back was on fire. I mean, it was like serious, serious pain, especially if I'd start sweating. And so I got some of this lidocaine stuff. And it says like only put like two pumps of this shit. Put it on your back. Of course, I put like 13 pumps. I put it all over my back because my back is in agony. And then like an hour plus later, I started feeling like shit.

Like nervous, like sketchy, like shaky. And I was like, oh my god, I've got like, this is like almost like a cousin of cocaine. You know? It's like it's doing something to me. It's not like getting me high. Did you want to clean the house? No, no.

I felt shaky and creepy. Did you want to have sex? I didn't want to eat. I didn't want to do anything. Well, it probably didn't go into your skin right to your fucking central nervous system. What if it got you horny as fuck? What if it got you? Dude, go party. You got any line of cane, bro?

But it makes your dick numb. That's like the thing. It's a numbing cream. My dick would wilt with a numbing cream. I need to feel it. Never stay hot. When I was a kid, my problem, when I first started having sex young, I was 13. My girlfriend was 13.

She talked me into it. I didn't want to have sex. I was cool with dry humping, but I was cool with that. I was really aggressive. It took like 10 months to get to dry humping. It took a long time. But once I got to dry humping, I would not, she would not. We were done.

We never got beyond. We hit a big wall. We plateaued. But my problem when we ended up having sex and after the 10th time she started crying and i asked her what's going on she goes this is not what i thought it was gonna be like and i didn't know what the fuck i did wrong so i told my brother was older and he was really experienced with girls at that point and the first thing he said is well how long you fucking her i said i don't know minute

90 seconds i don't know he goes dude that's why she started crying dude you gotta hold that shit so i had a problem i was premature ejaculation like that was my big problem so so uh my brother gave me this cream called it was called stay hard it's on the poor shops yes it was called ssta just without the Y hard and I use that just to you know so I could last a couple more minutes I really work I remember guys would always say that they always talk about that so yeah the reason one of those guys could do that they put this shit on their dicks they don't feel anything yeah that's why they could fuck so long yeah five minutes It worked for five minutes for me,

and then my shit just went right through it. First time I almost came, I was getting blown. Me and my friend were hanging out, and I had my dick through a Hulk doll, and my friend is blowing me. I didn't know what cum was, so I felt the cum coming, so I ran to the toilet and stood over it,

and nothing happened. It was a real dud. This dude that I know that was in the porn business told me that back in the day, they used to literally inject some sort of chemical into the vein in their dick. Caverjet, they use. To make their, what is it? Caverjet, they still use. They still do that.

But it can fuck your dick up so bad, it can turn purple or black because the blood doesn't leave it. It's called Caverjet? Caverjet. I think it's cavered jet Yeah, I've talked to guys who have used it and they said one guy said that his dick almost what if the party died I know no no no I think he needed to have the blood drain drained But he had a real problem with it

He said he wouldn't do it again what if it got so bad in the porn industry that they got their own like form of USADA They were testing porn stars for Viagra. Oh my God. Like it wasn't fair. They tested porn stars for Viagra, the business would collapse. Can you imagine? You go back to those 1970s days when John Holmes had a limp snake.

Yeah. He was trying to like shove it in chicks. Or Arbola. Remember Arbola? He looked, he was the fucking, the worst looking guy ever. But John Holmes, isn't that the guy with the giant dick? Yeah, yeah, he died today. Johnny White. Yeah.

John Holmes. Out of all medications ever invented, isn't Viagra the giant dick? Yeah, yeah, he died today, Johnny Lott, yeah. Out of all medications ever invented, isn't Viagra the most effective? That's the one that works the best. It has the least... It's bad for your heart.

It's bad for your heart. It was made for your heart, but I mean, it was a side effect that it worked on your dick. Yeah, but now... It's wonderful. But the side effects of it,

like pretty mild stuff. Stuffy nose. Yeah. But how many people are dropping dead of that? Are people dropping dead of Viagra? What does it say? Penile fibrosis from this coverage act is one of the...

Oh, coverage act? Penile fibrosis. What is that? What's penile fibrosis? That sounds like a dick disease. You're saying it's like we would know what the fuck that is. You have to explain that shit to us. It's like psoriasis of the dick.

Deformed penis shape, yeah. Deformed penis shape? Yeah, that probably sounds like it fuck that is. You have to explain that shit to us. It's like psoriasis of the dick. Deformed penis shape. Deformed penis shape? Yeah, it probably sounds like it stays that way. I wonder what it looks like. Maybe it curves down. Give me a look at that. Nah. That's good. Damn, there's some KOs tonight. I guess we missed a bunch of KOs.

So we found out that Brendan Schaub is a fucking genius. He's a soothsayer. Is that the word? He sees the future. He's a prognosticator. He's dead right. He's right.

He couldn't give it to Golovkin unless he killed Canelo. I wonder what the general public thinks about the decision, whether or not they think it was a good decision. We don't know. We're insulated. I wanted to hear that interview. He didn't speak English anyways, right? No. Forget what he thinks. Of course, I'm sure

he thinks he won. I would like to see I don't think he thinks he won. What if he says, you know what, I didn't win. He deserves it as a bad decision. What if he says something like that? That would be ballsy. That's a ballsy move. Guys have done it. Someone said that recently in the UFC, right?

Yeah. There was someone. Who was that? He won a bad decision, and he's like, you know what? I didn't win. Yeah. Who was that? I don't know, man.

I see too many fucking fights. Are you going to be there on October 7th for Tony's fight? Fuck yeah. Beautiful. Fuck yeah. Vegas? Yeah. It's going to be insane, man.

He's training like a fucking machine, dude. I'm sure he is. Holy shit. His jujitsu is sharper than ever. Man. You know, it's going to be a great fight. It's going to be a great fight. Very interesting fight. Big step a very, very interesting fight.

Big step up for Kevin Lee. Yeah. He's a, he's an animal. He's a beast. He's explosive. He's fast. He's got a really good rear naked choke.

He likes getting the back and putting a anacondas in body triangles. He likes that. He likes that. Super, super well-rounded. Yep. Yep. And surging.

He's like a surging young guy, you know, only like 25, but you got to kill Tony to beat him. You really do. You got to surging. He's like a surging young guy. Yeah. You know, only like 25. But you got to kill Tony to beat him. You really do. You got to kill him. He's a savage. There's no way.

He's going to fight to the death. Does he rent the same house every time when he goes up to Big Bear? Does he do like- No, a different house. Yeah. Do you ever see Tito's place? I think it was still for sale a while back. We just work out at his house.

We just turn the garage out, turn it into a little jujitsu room. We just fucking work She's still fighting Tito yeah, he's got a couple more fights going on. He's thinking supposed to fight Chael Sonnen again, and he wants to fight Chuck Liddell, I think this is Chuck have any interest in that yeah, and he's a cash Tito used to have the sweetest setup up there He had crazy big log houses like two of them and one of them is fighters would stay in that he was training with one of them He would stay in and he had a whole gym set up with a full-size octagon the whole deal pretty fucking dope Mm-hmm, it was for sale for a while

I don't know if anybody bought it But Tito was one of the first UFC fighters to realize that I just fucking hit up the big bear man Get that working up there. It's worth it. How old is Tito? I would say now he's probably 37, 38. Oh, I thought he was a lot older than that. Wow. And you feel by going up to Big Bear? Find out how old Tito Ortiz is. I really thought he was a lot older than that. I've been aware of him

I guess since 2000. You know, when you do a camp up there, you feel like you've done everything right. You've done everything you can. So mentally just being up there yeah right mentally yeah you think like i'm doing i'm up in big bear that's like there's nowhere else to go that's the spot right there is that as high as you can train in i think in california it's smart you don't want to go any higher um you like i said the the best

guys now most of the time they try to work at sea level and sleep up high is that like for endurance is that what uh glovgen does he doesn't work out in big bear no i think he works out whatever the fuck he does yeah don't doubt that shit because that guy went 100 all 12 rounds and he wasn't tired at all at the end well for sure it's definitely beneficial the question is is it the maximum amount of benefit? It doesn't need to be more maximum. Maybe it does. Maybe he could have had an extra burst.

We know what Big Bear does by watching Glovega. Doing it the new way might be better, but who's proven that? Let me see a fight. Let me see a high-level fight like that. Let me see 12 rounds like that. Oh, you went down. You trained at sea level and then slept.

I mean, I could see that working, but we already know what the Glovekin style works. We already know that. We know that. It's a good point. Why fuck with it? We know it works. Because if one of them works better, if one of them works better. I think that would be like shit. We don't even know if that even works at all.

No, it does work. They definitely know it works. Who does shit. We don't even know if that even works at all. No, it does work. They definitely know it works. Who does it? I don't know. I know that they've done these studies on oxygen utilization. NIST, do they do those studies? They do what's called VO2 max tests. It's very clear.

I don't know. I just watched Glovekin against Canelo, and I saw his ass. I wouldn't change shit. I wouldn't go, you know what? This might be better. Let's try that. Imagine if he had 10% more endurance and he stopped Canelo. And Canelo trains at sea level, which is interesting.

I don't think it had anything to do with endurance. I think Canelo's just tough. No, it's because of that woman. That's what he had to do. You know what? Canelo had incredible cardio, but Glovekin's cardio was clearly better because Canelo was dropping back. He couldn't keep the pressure.

He wanted to rest a little bit. Glovekin was clearly in better shape. What is on Kamaru Usman's shirt? What are all those little gold things? Those are lions? It doesn't matter. As long as it's gold, man. That's all that matters. Gold lions? Look at those glasses. I hope they're not even real glasses.

I like those glasses. Come on, man. Those are some dope glasses. That's what I'm saying. I hope they're just dope, clear lenses. My cardio is so fucking terrible. I can't're just dope, clear lenses. My cardio is so fucking terrible. Like, I literally, I can't do 10 minutes on a treadmill. You can do 10 minutes on a treadmill. You got to start at four and then work your way up to five and then eventually six. Dude, I'm so tired.

This is the apnea fucking. I walk up the steps and I'm like, ugh, like I shouldn't be feeling this. Yeah. It's fucking awful. You got to do something about that. I know. I might get the surgery again and then go with the math. Because Matt keeps telling me, take jujitsu.

But I'm like, I'm exhausted all the time. I really want to take it. But it's like that weird. That sucks, dude. Yeah, it's fucking awful. Sleep apnea is rough. It's a rough thing, man. Yours is all fucked up, too, because it's like central nervous system stuff, right?

It's not. It's both kinds. Both kinds. My fucking blows. Speaking of which, let's wrap this bitch up. I got to head to the comedy store. Can I leave a couple dates? Fuck yeah October 10th

Tuesday October 10th At the Ice House We're doing Me and Sam Tripoli Tinfoil hat comedy We're gonna just Make fun of comedy Conspiracy theorists

And then Oh you're doing his podcast? Is that what it is? He's doing it live? No no it's a comedy show Comedy show At the Ice House It's nothing but

Conspiracy theory themes. Oh, you know he's got that podcast, Tinfoil Hat Conspiracy Show. No, exactly. That's why we called it that. Oh, cool. Just going to- What's the date again? Tuesday, October 10th.

October 22nd, EBI 13, Gary Tonin, the Lightweights. We're going to have Richie Boogeyman doing a four-man combat jiu-jitsu. And then November 12th is Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds 1 with Tonin. Again, he's fighting three weeks before that without strikes. And then Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds 1, Gary Tonin's going to fight with palm strikes. We're going to do the same thing. A lot of the—Mac Danzig's doing it. Diego Brandao's doing it.

Cole Miller's doing it. Wagner Rocha's doing it. AJ Aghazarm is doing it. Nathan Orchard. Dude, it's going to be fucking nuts. Jiu-Jitsu with palm strikes. That's a crazy lineup. That's your lineup?

Yeah. What date is that again? That's on Sunday, November 12th. We're doing it at the Florentine Gardens. People aren't going to remember the date, but what's the website where they can go check out all of it? On Instagram, at CombatJJWorlds. CombatJJWorlds. I got my tour

kneeling room only. Starts September 22nd in Seattle and then I just go all the way through February doing every major city. Oh my god, you're an animal. What are you doing? Just trying to get tired? No, I would love to do another special, man. I gotta do something. I can't, you know,

I feel worthless enough when I'm working, much less when I'm not, so I got to just keep busy. Beautiful. So, jimnorton.com for dates. All right, fuckers. That's it.

Good night, everybody. Bye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Are you going to the comedy store?