The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 17, 2016

Episode Date: September 17, 2016

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub, Joe Schilling, and Eddie Bravo to watch the fights on September 17, 2016.

we're live fighter and the kid uh sans kid brennan shops here it's the kid sans the kid uh no we don't no we're not mad at brian callen we love brian callen brian callen's just in new york working uh so save it twitter trolls save it settle down trolls. Save it. Settle down. Something must have happened. Eddie Bravo. Eddie Bravo's here. No, Eddie Bravo and Brendan Shaw are not upset at each other. Stop it. Stop it, Twitter trolls.

Twitter trolls are fucking crazy. They try so hard. They hate each other. Look at the way they look at each other. I saw the way he looked at him when he said that. They hate each other. Meanwhile, we're like, how's your son? How's your kids? We love each other Meanwhile we're like How's your son? How's your kids? You know what I mean?

We're talking about our kids We're talking about The love of our lives For real Off camera People they hate each other Shout out to the Colorado Springs Fire Department

Donald Cowboy Cerrone's dad Gave me this shirt Sick Cowboy's dad works for the Colorado Springs Fire Department Colorado I will say that

I'm a little jelly I think it feels like You're trying to take Joe away from me You know what I mean? Springs Fire Department. Colorado. I will say that I'm a little jelly. I think it feels like you're trying to take Joe away from me. You know what I mean? It feels like that. It feels like that to me. I don't want to say nothing. I don't want to talk about it. Isn't that like high school where your new friend gets a friend?

Yeah. He's mad because he's trying to take him from him. That becomes a real issue with people. For reals. Like fucking grown men sometimes. You know, bro, I mean, you're hanging around with him all the time. I mean, I issue with people. For reals. Like fucking grown men sometimes. Yo, bro, I mean, you're hanging around with him all the time. I mean, I just wonder. I wonder, bro.

What the fuck's going on? I mean, what's happening with our friendship, man? I've had this conversation recently with an older friend. Oh, no. You know, it's also when dudes get older and shit gets stale in their life, you know, people start getting real desperate. They get real weird. If you know people start getting real desperate they get real weird if you if you know a dude who has a job that he doesn't enjoy and he's been doing it for a long

time and he's in a relationship it's not real a whole lot of fun and you know you stop hanging around with them a little bit it's like oh my god like everything's going dark yeah man everything's going dark where's the fun where's the fucking fun where's the fun there's no fun can't hang out it seems like nowadays with instagram the way it's set up, and Facebook, you can't fucking talk as much shit as you could like eight years ago on the internet when it was like it was cool to have like some stupid screen name like, you know, Red Dog 283 or something like that. And you're just anonymous.

There's still some of that like on the underground. You know, a lot of anonymous dudes there. They're like secret private guys. See, they're sort of anonymous, but the problem is their IP addresses are known. You're only anonymous if someone doesn't look. No one's anonymous anymore. Really? Yeah, you might think you are, but even if you're going behind a couple proxies, it's not hard to find you.

It's a weird world. There was a guy that was a troll on Reddit. It's a famous story because he was a guy that was a troll on Reddit. It's a famous story because he was like a real nasty guy, apparently. They found out where he worked. These people went after him. They found out where he worked. They found out who the guy is, and they got him fired. Jesus.

He got fired from his job because his fun shit, what he would like to do is he, you know, I mean, if you looked at it from a psychological point of view, you would say, You know I mean if you looked at it from a psychological point of view you would say this guy's like all bent up and like held back at work and he has some anger issues and he gets online and through this anonymous account he does a lot of mean shit and it goes after people. From work. Yeah yeah I think he I don't remember the whole story. I'd rather do that than shoot a place up. I mean who knows what level. I mean it might not that might not be the choice. It might be just he's an asshole.

You'd be surprised. But my point is, they found this guy. They found this guy and they got him fired. And that's just what they can do today. What are they going to be able to do? What happened with the nine-year-old? The nine-year-old from getting bullied at school and on the line committed suicide? Nine, kids.

Fucking nine. That is so crazy. I wasn't even smart enough at nine to figure out how to hang myself. Yeah, but you know what? The CIA should go after those people instead of fucking terrorists. That's true. They are terrorists. I mean, they are going after some people.

They went after that one kid. There was a kid who was a roommate in college with a kid who was gay. And he knew his friend was gay, so he set up a camera and filmed his friend having sex with a guy. And I don't know if he blackmailed him or said something, and the guy wound up killing himself. So now he's on trial for, I think, I don't know what they're saying, manslaughter maybe? Some new shit. Something awful. There was a similar case where this girl was, she knew her friend was like manic depressive, bipolar, and he would reach out to her for like help.

And she was like, you just need to kill yourself. You just need to kill yourself. And then they have all this, the texting history. And then she would send them links on how to do it. And then he finally did it. And he texted her, he goes, I think I would do it tomorrow night. She goes, you're so full of shit. You're not going to do it. Let me know if you do. And they end up doing it. So think I'm going to do it tomorrow night. She goes, you're so full of shit. You're not going to do it.

Let me know if you do. And they end up doing it. So now she's being charged with it. Yeah, she's real young. And here's the problem with that. When you're real young, first of all, they say your brain isn't even really fully formed. Doesn't even, like, your thoughts don't come in, like, the most logical manner. Until you're, like, deep into your 20s.

I think they say your your frontal cortex is probably shouldn't be talking science but I think the term was about it was about decision-making an impulsive decision-making particularly in young men experiencing text testosterone for the first time thinking about this think about your young right you're experiencing testosterone when you're 13 14 years old so you've got 13 years of confusing life. All of a sudden, you've got raging boners all the time.

I was just going to say raging boners. Yeah, and you're so baffled because you're so horny all the time. And sex is everything. It's selling TV shows and selling cars. It's all over the fucking boards. I used to jack off the covers of CDs. It is.

Look at those fucking girls in the volleyball games, right? Remember we were talking about that about that we're talking about the other day like how can they they're wearing thongs but the point is when you're young you do shit you might not even understand the consequences of what you're doing like the idea that this girl knew that this guy was going to kill himself and that being mean was anything other than for her just a fun game of being mean the magnitude of it yeah i don't know if you can really say that they know. I mean, it's awful that it got done. I'm not exonerating her, but I don't know if you could really treat that person like an adult.

Then add in head trauma if they played football or did martial arts. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Try playing football since you were six. Is that you? Yes, sir. Dude, you keep it together very well. You'd be surprised when I leave the studio.

I get online and just hang people. Did you see the new CTE study that they just released? It's an article that was out today where they're saying that it is not the amount of concussions, it's the amount of time you've been hit in the head. So it's sub-concussive trauma, like just jabs to the face

that don't even knock you out. That's it, way worse. Over long periods of time can be worse. You know, here's, like I was watching HBO Boxing the other night, and when Gennady Golovkin fought, yeah, Kell Brook. Amazing, amazing fight for as long as it lasted. I understand why Brooks Corner threw him in the towel. I was bummed out that they did, but he was going to get murked.

100%. He was getting murked. Live to fight another day. They were smart. They were smart. But I was upset because I was like, God damn, this is a good fight. Me too. And that kid, Kel Brook, is very good.

Anyway, point being, Bernard Hopkins is doing the commentary. And I'm listening to him doing the commentary. And I'm like, when you see a guy who's that great of a boxer, like Bernard Hopkins, and has been involved in boxing like pretty much his whole life. And he's almost, he might be 50 now. He's right around the right 49. I believe he is 50.

And the last time he fought, he fought Kovalev and got boxed up. You know, it was a tough fight to watch because you're watching really an older Bernard Hopkins getting hit hard by a murderer. I mean, Kovalev is so good. Top two in the world, yeah. But I was listening to him commentary. When you listen to a guy like that commentate, you're like, well, he talks pretty good now,

but what's he going to be like in 10 years? When you hear a guy that talks really well, deep into his 50s and 60s, like George Foreman, how did he pull that off? Some guys keep together, though, don't they? Roy Nelson should be drooling out of his mouth and shitting his pants. He's a smart, smart dude. Oh, look at this. Chaz Kelly

just did a Maximo Blanco on Maximo Blanco. No, you don't have that guillotine. No, son. Oh, he switched it up. He does have the dart, though. He has the dart. It's over. Oh, my God. It's over. No way he's going to sweep. No, he's going out. He's out. He's out. He's out, son.

Oh, my God. Tight move. How'd the referee not know he was out right there? Uneducated. That's like Tony Ferguson right there. No, that's Herb. That's Herb. That's Herb Deen. He's the best in the world.

Herb knows better. You know what, man? He gave him an opportunity. You know what? It's the angle. Herb, I usually give the ban for the doubt because he's one of the best. I think he is the best. There's nothing wrong with going out, though.

Him and John McCarthy. Let him go out. I agree, too. You can tap. It's McCarthy. Let him go out. I agree, too. You can tap. It's a fight. You're right. I agree, too, because going out doesn't hurt anybody. It looks like it hurts you.

It doesn't do anything bad to you. And even if you do lose some brain cells, what are we doing? Are we trying to save brain cells here? It'd be nice. Not in this sport. That's not what this is about. It's about the guys who are sacrificing their brains for us. That's what's going on.

I think Herb Dean and John McCarthy are equal. I think they're equal at the very top. I think they're the best in the world. McCarthy means numero uno. Numero uno. As far as dealing with them personally, when they come in the back and just the way I felt, if John McCarthy was working my fight,

I felt so much better. This is a beautiful darts, man. Look how he did this. He didn't quite get the guillotine, so he adjusts perfectly because as Maximo rolls out of the guillotine, he rolls right into the darts. Amazing transition. It was beautiful. I bet Chaz has hit that transition a hundred times.

Well, you could just tell. Yeah. You could just tell. Right away, you could tell. So natural. This was his shit, and his arms are long, and it was in deep, and he ain't going nowhere. He's fresh. It's over.

And by the look at the guy's face, too, he wasn't really defending right. He should have grabbed the inside of his thigh immediately when he put that on. I would like to hear what him and Herb were just saying to each other. Herb was asking him a question about how he set that up. See, Herb's a legit martial artist. Educated. But he loves it. When he's asking there, he wants to know.

Look at this. Dude, they both start off. Because that's what Maximo always does. He jumps at guys. Tight move. Perfect. Look how he set it up. He wants to know. Look at this. Dude, they both start off. That's what Maximo always does. Jump set, guys. Perfect. Look how he set it up. No one does that better than Verdum, though. Don't get it twisted. Goddamn, that was beautiful. Professional right there.

Oh, shit! Joe Schilling's in the motherfucking house! Joe Schilling in the building. Joe Schilling just showed up with an 80-pound watch on. How dare you ball so hard? How dare you ball so hard? How dare you ball so hard? How dare you ball so hard? Look at that thing. Gold on gold.

That's a fancy watch, sir. If I was a girl, I would be attracted to you just because of that watch. It's fancy. Yeah, I would say something about him. He's all tattooed up.

He looks scruffy and dangerous. He's got scar tissue. That's just the deal closer. They look at the watch and go, bam, that's it. That's it. He's got money to wrap Basically that's just saying

I got a lot of cash bitch Are you still balling In that crazy Corvette No not anymore What are you driving now Right now I just have My Range Rover Oh just a Range Rover

Just safe and comfortable Kinetic Motorsports though Should be something else Coming soon What Corvette was it A Z06 Yeah the Z06 Convert Never met at that

ZConvert It's a dope Dope car man Yeah you know what man Corvette, was it? A Z06? Yeah, the Z06 Convert. Never mad at that. Z Convert. It's a dope, dope car, man. Yeah, you know what, man? It's interesting to see how far they've taken performance cars and how far they have left to go, because there's nowhere left to go. Like, those insane Teslas, and when you put them on ludicrous mode and they're 0-60 in, like, less than three seconds. I don't fuck with the electric. It does nothing for me. It's very fast.

My dick goes, huh? Nah. But you bring a fucking nasty ass split window stingray or something like that? Yes, sir. But what about the environment? I'm sure we'll figure it out. Least of our worries. I just can't believe they haven't figured it out yet.

I just feel like there's gotta be a way. Like I read something about China. I just can't believe they haven't figured it out yet. I just feel like there's got to be a way. I read something about China. I don't even know if it was a real article, but they had developed a thing that was like a large building, and it was an air filter. It actually would pull the pollution out of the city air, and they built something. Like a giant powered filter that was the size of a building.

100% makes sense. It seems like you could completely clean the air but then the real trick would be to get it to run on pollution. If you had a filter that actually used the carbons in the air as its fuel and then sucked all that shitty air

in and pumped out clean air There's some smart ass people who can for sure work on that. Yeah, there's not enough money in it. Yeah, that's the problem. The car company's like, get the fuck out of here. After the last podcast we did, I remember we were leaving the conversation we had. We got into solar panels.

Yeah. And I'm confused as to how they work. You are super confused. Are there guys out there that have solar panels and they're just completely cut off the grid? And they're just using all their energy is from those solar panels. 100%. But it seems like every time you hear about these solar panels, the way it works is you send the energy back to the city. No, no, no, no, no.

And then they sell it back to you at a discounted rate. Something like that. No, no, no. Here's the deal. First of all, if you see someone who is like, I have a friend who has a house that's in Colorado that's completely off the grid. Never been on the grid. And it's all solar panels? All solar panels.

Beautiful. That's what I wanted. They have solar panels and they have a propane backup in case something goes wrong with the solar system or it goes down because it gets so fucking cold there. Solar system shit. It gets so cold there. Motherfucker's super paranoid. Super paranoid. Solar power system.

That's a solar system. Just to get the sun crazy. Turn it off for just a little bit. If our solar system shuts down, I'm good, dog. It's all good, baby. Excuse me. Solar power system. I don't know what the fuck at that point.

Yeah, electricity is your last concern. You're dead. CNN, the report. The fucking Earth's boiling. Mars is headed all the way straight. It's not going to hit us, but it's going to fuck up some satellites for a while. It's going to miss us by one light year. So, yeah, what they try to do, and this is what happens most of the time in L.A.,

like if you see someone set up a solar power system, it's tricky because it's not really independent. You get your power from the sun, but it pumps right back into the grid. You're connected to the grid still, but you don't have to be. It's just cheaper. I think in the city, exactly.

That's what they're pushing. They're pushing that. They're going, hey. It's like, why does the city need, oh, we need some space and we need your roof. Why are they concerned with that? You keep saying this and you're wrong about that. You keep using that analogy. I hope I'm wrong. Listen, they don't need the power from these people that have solar power.

Exactly. That's not what it is. What they're doing is they don't want to disconnect from the grid because they don't want to lose money. First of all, it's really hard to get off that grid. It's really hard to just get on electricity. Callan's been trying for how many months now? He's been doing it for like four months, going back and forth. So what they're doing is they're stepping in.

One foot in, one foot out. You've got to be all in. Well, doesn't he have a contractor that's doing it? I don't know, man. With Callan, you never know. You do never know. He's your friend. You would know. I mean, I know. He's my friend, too. I believe he's a... With Calen, you never know. You do never know. He's your friend. You would know.

I mean, I know. He's my friend, too. He's my friend first. You know what I'm saying? Who the fuck am I? You know what I'm saying? You're fucked, though, right? So you agree.

You're basically saying I was being sarcastic, but that's what I meant. No, no. What you're saying is you're thinking that somehow the grid needs the power. No. That's definitely not what it is. No. That's a joke. What it is is it's more expensive.

I said that as a joke. It's more expensive. No, that's a joke. It's more expensive. It's more expensive. When you just get solar power, okay, you don't need this massive bank of batteries. You don't need a lot of equipment. There's a lot of shit when you go completely off the grid so that when you cut your power off, you're not connected to anything. If you cut your solar off, you're still connected to the regular power grid, and you still get regular power if your solar goes down.

It's one of the advantages that people like about staying connected to the grid. You save money, too. The other part is, you definitely save money from solar power. And you get a tax rebate. 100%. You get a tax rebate. But you also can, if you make more power than you use, it actually goes back into the grid and you can get money from it.

Boom. That's what it is. But it's not like they need it. Of course not. It's sort of an incentive. can get money from it. Boom. That's what it is.

But it's not like they need it. Of course not. It's sort of an incentive. It's an incentive in a way to stay connected to the grid, which I think, for them, is like a survival technique. Because if everybody in California got solar, and if solar keeps getting better the way everything gets better, you're going to have a solar that's as big as this fucking table, and it's going to be able to power J-Lo's house. That'd be sick.

It's just expensive, though. It's getting on the grid. That's why people are doing it. It's getting better and better. It's just really expensive,. It's expensive. That's why people are doing it. It's getting better and better. It's just really expensive. For now, but it's battery technology needs to improve. There's a lot of issues. Elon Musk is on the ball with that shit.

He's created these batteries that sit on your wall. They hang on your wall, and they're a much smaller profile than the standard shit that most people have in their houses. So what does it do? Well, they're just large batteries that store the electricity from the solar power system. Okay, so you've got solar panels. Yeah. And then there's a battery.

Yeah, you need more. Yeah, it has to be collected. It's like, have you ever seen those solar things that you can use to charge your phone? They're pretty dope. It's like a laptop. Yeah, it's like your backpack or whatever. Yeah, and you lay it.

You can just let it sit on a rock, and it'll soak up enough energy from the sun to power your phone at the end of the day. Super lame if you need that. My friend who backpack hikes, my friend Adam, he's actually in Montana right now. He uses that to send these updates from the top of the fucking mountain. That's what he's using for his power. He's got this solar thing, and he just unfolds it. That makes sense if you do all that shit.

But if you live in L.A., don't bring that shit out. Just charge it in your car, huh? But if you have a car, yeah, that's probably a good idea. But if you're in an Uber all the time or something like that, what if you're responsible? If you're in an Uber. Look at that fucking thing. Just charge your cell phone. Ah, let me just get out my fucking backpack full of solar panels.

Damn, that's a little too big. Well, no, it folds up. See, it folds up and three panels collapse together, so it's like a laptop. It's three iPads. It's three iPads. Well, it's a little too big. Well, no, it folds up. See, it folds up and three panels collapse together so it's like a laptop. It's three iPads. It's three iPads. Well, it's not that much bigger than your fucking iPad.

There needs to be a solar panel on the back of your goddamn phone just like that. It ain't going like that. Well, that's on the new Fisker cars. Let's get there. Check this out. The new Fisker.

They got a new one. You know, they blew up and they kind of went out of business for a while. See, I still wanted one. It's only if they get wet. Well, these apparently won't blow up. What happened was, if you don't know the story,

there was a hurricane came. All the ones that were on the dock in North Carolina exploded when the water hit them. I was about to get one, too, for a steal. So now they have one that has a roof. Check it out, Eddie. Look behind you. That's a fisker.

God damn, that thing's sick. So the roof on these things is solar-powered. The roof can actually power the car, allegedly. That's crazy. Well, in somewhere like LA, it totally makes sense, right? Because we have so much sun. In Phoenix, shit. Seattle, huge.

Go ahead and pass on that car. Yeah, in Seattle, you'll starve to death outside of the road somewhere. It's so hot in parts of the country, you would think that, I mean, you could use all, there's enough heat to power everything. That car's sick though. See, what does it say? It says, does it say it'll pull the whole car? It guarantees about a mile and a half of propulsion per day. Wow. The solar roof feeds the main battery and generates about a mile and a half of propulsion

per day. That ain't shit. Yeah, that's a waste of my fucking time. What does that mean? A mile and a half per day? Okay, oh, listen to that. Park your car at the airport for a week and get home on the power of the sun. Maybe if you live seven miles away, but goddamn, you're pushing it.

God, I mean, that's stressful. Yeah, what if you hit traffic and you see that meter going down and you turn your radio off? You don't want to get off the grid on that one. You want that gas can right there i'd like gas me too man i'm old school the electricity is uh is a fascinating future for sure but man early adopters that you you're right now you're not really early adopter like a mid-time adopter but it's a pain in the ass when i rented rented one, they don't last that long. I went to the improv and back home and it was more than a half of a battery.

They're just not fun either. I enjoy driving. I love driving. I mean, it's in traffic, I don't, but I love driving. Got a BCH, something like that. In the Tesla, it's just, it's not fun for me. But you had that Prius.

How could it not be fun? And I fucking would kick it every time I got to get into it. I sold that thing so fast when the lease was up. To get the shit out of my face. I hated it. You don't think it's fun? I drove a Tesla once. It's not fun as hell.

Try driving a real sports car. Yeah, I don't know, man. And then jump in that. You're like, what? I think they're pretty badass. I see Eddie's point. I like them. They're so cool.

Finally, an electric car that looks cool, because pimps fucking drive those things. You know what I mean? The Fisker. The Fisker's a badass. Fisker's better looking. Fisker looks like a Maserati. Fuck the Tesla. Yeah, but the Teslas look cool.

Correct, sir. Finally. They look better than a Prius. Yeah. They definitely look cool. Like, Brian's, that white one, that looks pretty slick. Prius will bum you out. Yeah.

Prius will fuck your day up. It's transportation, though. I mean, that's what it is. There's a difference between a transportation vehicle and that Corvette that you were driving, that Z06 convertible. That thing is just a roller coaster ride. Yeah, it's stressful to drive it, too. Is it?

It's kind of stressful to drive it. Too much power? It's too much power. The Ferrari, I like the Ferrari better. They're about the same speed-wise. I mean, they're about as fast. You can't tell really. If I raced one and the other, it would be just as fast.

But like the Ferrari, the passenger is terrified, and you feel like you're in total control. And the Corvette, you're both fucking terrified. You have no control. Like the ass in just goes. It's 650 horsepower and 650 torque. It's just fucking crazy. That's why so many Dodge Vipers, when they first

came out, remember the first car really that was on mass production. It was 500 horsepower, 500 pounds of torque. It was just like crazy eyes off Mr. Deeds. They're like, these things are fast. I'm just running to walls and shit. They have a new Viper. Have you seen that new Viper that they have? The new one that's built

just for the racetrack, but you could drive it around the street? It's insane. Really? It's insane. It is like the closest thing you can get to a dick on wheels. Like a giant spaceship dick. Oh, they bring it up right now.

We all get boners. If you're a car guy, everyone get boners. Pull that thing up. Look at this thing. That fucking thing is so goddamn fast, too. It's just insanely fast. What year is that one,ie 2017 that's a scary ass car too i want that 1993 old school 40 g's viper they keep taking these things to racetracks and breaking the track record over and over and over again it's just a monstrous car

but ridiculous to drive acr is that right yeah, is that right? Yeah. It's the SRT ACR, I think they call it. Fuck you. They're so sick. It's a V12? I don't know what it is. I think it's a V10. People are getting away from V12s. I think it's a V10. What's the Viper of Ford? Jesus Christ. What's Ford like, baby?

The GT? Well, Ford has a Ford GT. That thing's sick. That's an amazing car. You see the new one? They got a new one coming out. No, I just remember the The GT or it has a Ford GT that thing sick best that thing is amazing Shelby Cobra about you see the new one. They got a new one coming out No, I just remember that pro like the old one the GT just looked like the door. It's just ugly This door was goofy Dana White had one of those I believe I dig him. What's the monster of Nissan? GTR they have one of the fastest cars ever accurate doesn't really have they have an NSX it's coming out The GT-R. They have one of the fastest cars ever.

Acura doesn't really have. They have an NSX that's coming out. Not Acura. I still like the NSX. NSX. The NSX is Acura. They still make those? They'd make a new one, but it's not like the old one. The old one was like a stick shift, light car, aluminum.

The new one is four-wheel drive, turbo, it's automatic. The Nissan GT-R, though, at my age, especially your guys' age, you'd feel like a dick driving. Because it's like, are you from Fast and Furious? The first time you ever got high, it was too supra ish a little bit like if you're in high school you'd be killing yeah killing it with a gtr yeah yeah if you like say northcutt pulls up to the club that's his fucking car that's what he's got this is he has one is it yeah he has a gtr perfect sense it's perfect perfect for him that is yeah i can't think of a handsome fellow with a slick ride.

Slick ride. Those are fun cars, though, man. Who gives a fuck what anybody else thinks when you show up? It's like 800 horsepower or something, I think. Listen, man, you think people don't think you're a douchebag when you pull up in that Continental GT? Easy. Bentley. Bentley Supersport. Whatever the fuck it is.

There's only 200 of them. Whatever it is. Big difference. It's a Bentley. Big difference. Show me the Bentley. It's exactly what I thought when I pulled up and parked outside. I was like, oh, this fucking douchebag.

I like the shape of that one the most. That's a dope car. That's a GTR. And that car is silly fast. Stupid fast. And they handle like a dream, man. I rented one of those. You could rent them from Hertz.

Hertz rents them in Austin. I rented one for a few days and drove it around. It was amazing. Great car, just not for me. You rented the Hellcat too, yeah? Yeah. How was that? Fucking awesome. Really? Yeah. Ridiculous. You're laughing when you're driving it.

Why can't you make this? Yeah, it's got 660 something fucking... Where do they go from there? 700, right? 750. It's just crazy. Where do you go from there though? It's crazy. Where does Dodge go from there? Who knows? Well, that's what we're saying about the evolution of this stuff.

They're trying to have unlimited growth in performance cars. It's going to get to some weird place where, I mean, it is already. If you can go and buy one of those Z06s, you could be 18 year old kid and go out and buy a corvette z06 and for for what that is it and don't you i realize the expense for what that car's performance is it's cheap oh it's a supercar for sure that's affordable well sort of affordable it's a $90,000 compared to other supercars though yeah at what point is the speed it seems like every year the zero to 60 gets beat. Yeah. At what point does it stop?

Exactly. That's what we're saying. Well, the electric ones are beating everything. That Ludacris shit, they're getting nuts. Yeah, they're pretty close. I think that Tesla- The older model was the insane button and now it's Ludacris button. Yeah. It cuts to Ludacris.

Yeah. Like the meatballs or whatever, there's going to be all those fucking buttons. Ludacrous speed Ludicrous It's a weird car, man It's a weird car You know, it's ridiculously fast But yeah, I mean

How fast do you need to go? They're gonna get it down to probably like one second I wonder if the government's gonna like step in I mean, they keep you from doing certain shit How come they don't keep you from driving motorcycles? I was thinking that while I was watching this guy Zip past me on the highway today. He's with a girl on his back.

I was like, oh, please don't fall. I'm just watching him going, please don't fall. I don't want to see you guys turn into meat. I don't want to pass you on the road. It's so insane. Five minutes on the road. Dude, on Thursday, I was in the Beverly Hills Hills area. I'm coming down.

And I'm at the light. I had a long day. I'm like, god damn, that was a long day Hills, like, hills area, and I'm coming down, and I'm at the light. I had a long day. I'm like, God damn, that was a long day. Like, feeling sorry for myself for whatever reason. And this fucking car is making a left-hand turn, and these young kids aren't paying attention. They're, like, talking and looking back. Probably going 60. I'm like, oh, this ain't good.

Kadush! The front of both the cars is basically ripped off. Engine, I mean, just a complete shit show. The kids that hit the car get out. They're fine. Like some foreign kids. Girl was pretty hot. Anyways, they get out. But the car that they hit was like a Cadillac CTS

or whatever, brand new, with the temp tags. An older lady gets out. I'm watching like, what the fuck is this? This old lady gets out and she's crying. She goes to the side that got hit. Her husband's there and they can't get him out. He's unconscious, can't get him out. So I'm like, shit, I better do something.

So I pull off the side. I run over. They're finally getting him out. And I look at him and his fucking grill. He must have hit the front. And his teeth, his lip, just lip just blood everywhere man this guy was gangster he's like did you see what fucking happened do you see i didn't want to be a witness there's a million other people like i sure didn't man good luck but i called 9-1-1

you didn't want to be a witness you know well i helped them there's enough people around where they can there's literally 50 other witnesses i don't know if you should have admitted that. Believe me, they had it. They had it. I had to get going. I had to get home to my son. I had to get home to my son, man. I hope they have it.

No, they got it for sure. That's intense. There was literally 50 people around saw the same shit. They don't need freaking my play-by-play on it. That sounds a little better. They don't. They're play-by-play on it. That sounds a little better. They don't. They're fine. There's cops everywhere.

They're fine. CSI was on that shit. So whose fault was it? Was it the kids' fault? The kids, yes. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. God damn, man.

It is amazing when you think that someone just can give you a car when you're 17 years old. I remember being, well well I got in a bunch car accidents when I was 17 too bad but I was so stupid I was so dumb I was so dumb and completely reckless and the idea that someone just gave me a 2,000 pound plus thing with an engine it's nuts man you just barely know how to fucking pay attention to the brakes and the oil, and you're barely, and you're part of this. Now add cell phones into the mix. The kids are addicted to cell phones.

They're texting and Twitter and all that shit. Just got to shift a little to the right, my friend. Good stack. Just scoot that hip out, readjust. Nope. Nope. Nope. Good stacking. Hey, Eddie, do you still do the teepee?

Is that still legit? Damn. Remember the teepee? Yes. It's still totally legit. It is, right? I just haven't gone to it in a long time. You've got to be kind of fresh to pull it off.

No, it all depends on where your opponent's hands are. Generally, guys have their hands up here. The teepee is like a triangle variation where you reach behind the knees with S-grip, right? Was it S-grip? Yeah, it's like this instead of. Because you don't have to be fully closed, what you're saying? Yeah, you don't have to be fully closed. You actually go all the way up to the ankles.

And he's wrapping his arm around your leg so you really can't adjust. So then you just go here, go around, and... It's tight now. Get people to sleep with that shit. It works. Oh, this guy's doomed. Yeah, it should be over, but he's gotta pull his left arm out.

All he has to do is keep... This guy's gonna keep throwing punches at him. He's gonna go out. That shit is terrible. It's so him, he's gonna go out. Yeah. That shit is so tight. It's a terrible defense. It's so tight. Oh, it's over. He's in trouble now.

Yeah, pull the head down. He's gonna tap. Pull the head, pull the head, pull the head. He's gonna tap. He's about to tap. Nah, he's about to tap. This guy's tough as fuck, man. Damn, that's some good stacking.

He's adjusting. No, he lost it. He lost it. Wow, he lost it. That's some good stacking right there. Yeah, it really is. But he doesn't have it anymore. Nope, he's out. He's breaking that shit open there. Yeah, it really is. But he doesn't have it anymore. Nope, he's out.

He's breaking that shit open with his shoulder. The cage is helping him too. God damn it. Endurance. So much of a factor. You know, I'm starting to listen to Nick Curzon. Schilling, I know you're training with him. I'm starting to listen to him more and more.

And one of the things that he said that I was like, wow, that's such a controversial thing to say. He's like, when you're in camp for a fight, you should be doing all strength and conditioning He goes you already know how to fight. He's like you should be literally concentrating almost entirely on your gas tank I was like wow Like think about that like skill work up until fight camp preparing for fight camp How long did you massive strength and conditioning? How long would it be in his book?

And I never I never understood it really it's like God Joe's the most important Garch How long is your camp, though? Massive strength and conditioning. How long would a camp be in his book? It's a good question. Jacques Roche said that, too. And I never understood it, really. It was like, cardio is the most important. Cardio. How's your cardio? Cardio. Cardio. I think it makes sense.

It depends what level you're at. If you're CM Punk, go ahead and just kind of mix everything in there. That didn't matter. That didn't matter. I was just saying from experiencing, because he doesn't have doesn't have – if you're a Joe Schilling – That's rare though. Yeah, but if you're a Joe Schilling, you have world-class striking and you're in a striking contest, for sure get in shape because you're not going to learn how to throw a jab or a right high kick any better. It's just repetitions, right?

So your cardio and strength condition makes sense. If you're a young guy, man, I disagree. if you're a young guy man I disagree well I just think that's his it's accurate but it's like

he's a Eddie's gonna tell you that you should do nothing but work on your jiu jitsu I'm gonna say you should do nothing but work on your fucking striking

your coach is gonna work like your boxing coach is gonna say you need to work on your skill your strength conditioning coach is gonna say the same thing you know and the truth is

you gotta work on everything all the time if you're gonna to work on everything all the time. If you're going to do MMA, it's all the time. Do you, though? He has a point, though. But here's the other thought, right? When you see a guy like Damian Maia, it's a one-trick pony with one fucking amazing trick. His stand-up is pretty good, though.

Damian Maia can stand up. He's got good stand-up. For sure. But his game is very obvious what he's going to do. It's not like he's mixing up things. You don't know he's going to high kick you. For a while there, he was trying to kickbox. And losing.

And then he changed his whole strategy. He changed the whole... Same thing with Sakuraba towards the end of his career. His strategy was always like, I'm just going to stand with dudes and maybe take them down. Then at the end of Sakuraba's career, he decided, holy shit, I better take dudes down and choke them out because I've been knocked out way too many times. But with Maia. Ben Rosilva did that too. Go ahead.

But if Maia fights Wonderboy, he's sure as fuck not Just there's what we know the right plans from both guys to don't you think that my got better at his ground game? I mean he got better at his overall mixed martial arts game Once his stand-up got good enough where he wasn't nervous about it Yes Like if you watch him fight his timing is excellent and his stand-up defense is very good because he's I'd his Knowledge of when he's in trouble when he's not I think he knows who he is fine Yeah, and that's a big

part of winning in the octagon. You know, and that part of that state, you know, wanting to be a kickboxer for a few fights, that attitude, I think he needed to go through that. He needed to get through that because every jiu-jitsu guy's biggest fear is standing with someone in the octagon and having the whole world watch you get

knocked out. They got, you know, generally, it takes a while to get to that point where Joe is where he's going to pass. Yeah, but he's mounting. Look at this. Hanging on to it. Oh, yeah, that's tight. Jesus Christ.

I would like to see those hands are gripped here. But it looks pretty goddamn tight. He's all right. Yeah, he could have got that stopped right there, right? Mm-hmm. It's hard to tell what he has Remember that when fucking Was it Takata lied and said that

Hoist was choked out Remember that shit Takata lied Was it Takata Yes that's right Was it him No it wasn't Takata Takata's the guy who

It was Yoshida Yoshida Oh he said he was out And I stopped it And he wasn't or what What do you mean His hand kind of went limp And people were like, you know, they'd post that little gif of him going limp.

Right there. Yeah, it was Yoshida. Yeah, that's right. Yoshida, who was in a, wasn't he an Olympic gold medalist in judo? Some high level. Something like that. Yeah, I think he was a gold medalist. So he goes for the Ezekiel choke.

Hoist is fine. Hoist never taps out. And by the way, Hoist would have just gone unconscious. 100%. 100%. And he did go unconscious. I mean, there was a fight where he fought Waleed Ishmael. He went unconscious.

Looking at his hands. Yeah, but look. He's fine. They pull him off and he's wide awake. You can't tell right there, can you? The refs will fuck up. The refs with earpieces. Well, like in the Verdum-Travis Brown fight, the ref fucked up, huh?

Oh, yeah. Pretty bad. Yeah. Like, you can't have timeouts. Yeah. I wish I got timeouts. You just can't have timeouts. The referee definitely fucked up there.

That was well played, though. I mean, of course you're going to do that. Well, I think he was probably thinking about stopping. I mean, his finger was snapped in half. I mean, we couldn't tell what was going on. From a punch, though. Yes, from a punch. But like from that ref's perspective, if you're,

because sometimes your finger does, you know, grapple or whatever, your finger comes out of the glove and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, fix my glove. And they fix your glove. So like the ref didn't know until he looked at it. Yeah. The ref didn't actually stop it, right? The ref did stop it.

But that stop was good because everyone was cool with it. Can you imagine if he would have stopped the fight? That would have sucked. Who cares? He wanted to see the fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, oh, let it go. Fuck it. Can you imagine if he would have stopped the fight? That would have sucked. He wanted to see the fight. Like, oh, let it go. Fuck it. No, no, we're good. Everyone's good.

Well, the way that turned out, not too much. Who cares what the rule is? We got to have rules. But if he had a dislocated finger, I think everybody would agree really quick if there was a button to vote. Say, do we let, do we, give him a couple fucking seconds. His fucking finger is twisted off. But where do you stop it at? Where do you stop it? Ah, fuck, I'm gonna come around, my joint hurts. Hold on, time

out, let's restart this shit. You wish you would've stopped it? You have to have rules. There's no exceptions. You have to have rules for a reason. So you wanted it to stop? I don't, the rest of that fight was complete shit, I wouldn't mind it. But here's the thing, Fabricio Verdun, here's the deal though, according to the ruse, Fabrizio

Verdun was well within his rights to keep punching. 100%. So when he punched him, the referee hadn't stopped and he was saying he was calling timeout but you can't really do that. You can't do that. And then the fact that they just kept going afterwards, he decided I'm just going to fight with a broken finger, which is admirable,

right? But it's like, okay, but what would have happened if you didn't stop? I mean, when he broke your finger with that punch, how much different is that than breaking someone's thigh with a leg kick? When they get hurt, you don't stop. You keep going. Think if they stop with a leg kick, be like, hold on, hold on, hold on. Fuck, my shin hurts.

Here's a perfect example. And they're like, how bad is it? That's not broke. Keep going. All right, cool. When someone breaks your forearm, That happens all the time. It happens all the time. Someone blocks a kick and they get their forearm broken.

They stop the fight. You know, they stop the fight. Every time. That's what they do. Well, Verdun went into that fight with a broken foot, too. But so when you're, you know, you catch a punch, and it was one of those weird Chuck Liddell style overhand rights that kind of literally comes down. On the finger.

And it came down on his finger. That's so weird. Yeah, what's that is a good? It's a Is it illegal to break your opponent's fingers no not like that you know, it's really target small joint Yeah, there's no joint manipulation of the fingers or turn But since it wasn't on purpose, you know, just like an eye poke. It's not legal But if it happens you don't stop the fight, you know, you're just like an eye poke. It's not legal, but if it happens, you don't stop the fight.

Did you see the eye poke? You just let it go. It was an accident. Eye poke, accident, finger snap off. Oh, it was an accident. Look at this heel hook. He has nowhere to go. He's got no left leg here, too. Left leg's not in play.

If he could kick him in the face right now, shit. That'd be a different story. He should be able to. He should be. Didn't one FC change? Didn't they go back to no kicks to the head? Yeah, they had enough. They just put a lot of really bad highlights recently.

Some fool's getting soccer kicks bad. Well, did you see the Roger Huerta one? Yeah, I saw one. I remember which one. Is it online? Can we check that out? I remember seeing one recently. It was fucking we check that out? I remember seeing one recently It was fucking nasty

Yeah I love Roger Last fight? He fought 170 And Roger fought 155 In the UFC And he fought a big Brazilian dude It wasn't his last fight

His last fight He lost a decision But it was a bad knockout So he had a fight Since Yeah he's had more than One fight since I believe

I think Brandon Vera In that same league Kicked a motherfucker In the face too I'm sure Good Brandon bear in that same league kicked a motherfucker in the face, too I'm sure yeah, good luck in kick by that dude So I see soccer kicks are very different when there's a cage because you can't get your head out of the way if it's ropes You can get your head under the ropes and you can kind of move and get away from thing here it is. Boom I

That'll do it, but that's a fight, though. Yeah, well, he was already hurt and in bad... Some place called that a curvy. A bad place. If it was up to you, Brendan, would you allow that in the UFC or keep it the way it is? I would not keep it the way it is. What about you, Joe? Unless you hate ratings and sponsors.

I would totally allow it, right? Totally allow it. The dude's bent over. I'm looking at it from a business. Remember when those guys used to drop knees from north-south all the time? Yeah. Oh, that was the best. And it changed the way the grappling occurred.

It changed it completely. Well, here's the thing. Well, the new rule is a down fighter is four points on the ground, not three points on the ground. I like that. So if you have a guy on the ground and he's covering up in the turtle, all you have to do is hold on to one of his arms. You pick one of his arms off the ground, and at least by my definition, you could start kicking him and kneeing him in the face. Right?

If you can't hit a downed opponent because a downed opponent. If he's on all four and you just take one off. Right. You just pick one up and you start blasting him. Well, guys were fucking around with it. If he sits up and he's on his knees, now it's only two feet. Or is that four, because he's got two feet, two knees? Yeah, is it?

I don't know. Is that a downed opponent? What do you consider? A knee counts, right? Right, but two knees. But if you're on your knees. Okay, so if a guy's down, once his hand cups off the ground, that's when it's legal. But his knees are on the ground, still not legal, right?

Is that how it goes? Yeah, still not legal. Right. Yeah, that's right. But if a guy, so if a guy, with the new rules, if a guy had his feet flat on the ground and he was touching the ground with two hands and you just pulled one of those arms up, you could do whatever the fuck you want. Yep, correct.

Right. That'd be some new training. Oh, but if you're on your knees. Your knees are down. I think when both fighters are on the ground, you should be allowed to kick to the head. Right. That'd be some new training. If you're on your knees, then it's good. You drew up. You're a downed opponent. I think when both fighters are on the ground, you should be allowed to kick to the head. Because I think if a guy can up-kick you from the bottom, bullshit. That's bullshit.

You should totally, like when someone's going for an arm bar, you should be able to kick the fuck out of their face. It's fighting. Fuck. Why are you allowed to defend yourself from the bottom or me coming at you, but I can't strike you the way I want to? And it gives you an unrealistic sense of what's real and not real on the ground because there's a lot of stuff that goes on in the ground that wouldn't happen if the guy could just kick you in the face. Because if you're lying in a weird position,

the guy just blasting shins to your face, you're going to stop what you're doing and have to readjust, and you're going to have to make that a part of the equation. You're going to have to prepare for that. I think that downward elbow shit on the ground is stupid too. Poor shit. It's total bullshit. Makes no sense. They didn't even change that. I don't think they brought it up.

If they were going to make that rule about the ice breaking or whatever the fuck their reason was, if I'm standing up and I do that, then okay. On your knees, you're not going to have any power to really break. It's not like you're dangerous. And it's fighting. It's not like you're dangerous. Yeah. And it's fighting. It's no more dangerous than anything else.

Anything that's on the fence, allow it. If it's on the fence, if there's an argument, allow it. It's fighting. Right, yeah. But if everyone collectively says, hell fucking no, then yes, those are the ones. I mean, it's fighting. Don't you think the UFC represents what true fighting really is? 100%. It should.

There should be that still. Dude, I think we should get rid of the cage. I think they should hold it in a space the size of a basketball arena. It should be like a basketball floor and there should be no fucking cage. And they just run. This is what I think. If I'm the king of the world

and I get to make the new rules Of the UFC We get rid of the gloves No gloves No hand tapes That's all bullshit It's out the window You should start a show

On Indian Reservation You can do anything you want That's what I'm saying That's easy What about eye gouging and shit No gloves Do it Well you eye gouge

Immediate deduction of one point Immediate Two eye gouges You're out The fight is over Dude if you did that On Indian Reservation Headbutting should be legal.

If you got me in an arm bar, can I bite your ankle to get it off my face? No, you can't bite. See, it's not real, Joe. Biting is not civilized. It's not real. Biting and eye-poking are the only things that I think of. Not civilized. Here's the thing about biting.

What about ball shots? Biting is super dangerous as far as bacteria and stuff like that. I want dudes dying on my show of staff. But blinding and shit, look, we know we could poke each other in the eyes this is this not fighting that's just a green I can't hit the you can't reach into my package and grab my hog eyes and dick don't touch the hog bro head kids no head kicks to the back of the head legal elbows to the back of head lead that changes everything elbows to the back of the head when you you

don't even need rear naked chokes. Once they allow the elbows, you get to the hooks and boom, boom. Legal. All that legal. Three shots, they'll tap you quick. Soccer kicks, legal. You guys are barbarians. Stomps, soccer kicks, legal. Let's do it.

No cage. Rogan fighting champ. RFC. Start your own league. Have that basketball court at the fucking thing. We have a basketball court for basketball, and basketball is boring as fuck. How about that? Depends who you ask.

We got that big ass place for football. Look at that giant space. How about that? They got that big ass place for football. Look at that giant space. How about two dudes meet in the middle of a fucking football arena? How about that, son? And go where? And go crazy. God damn it, Joe. The problem with the basketball arena thing is you're going to have to change all these

other rules to force them to fight. Exactly. You're going to have to make yellow cards. You have to make all that shit because even sparring in an open room where there's a big mat, it becomes one guy doesn't want to fucking spar, and you're just walking around the room chasing him. Good. Let the 50,000 people that will come to my shows boo.

Let them boo. By the way, here's another thing I'm doing. Here's another thing I do if I'm king of the world. I bring Ben Askren into the UFC. Immediately. I agree 100%. It's a disgrace. It's a disgrace. He fucks up everybody.

It's ridiculous. You see what he did to Korskov? Yes. He sunned him. Took him down, manhandled him, did whatever the fuck he wanted. Let's just go over this real quick. Let's just cover this real quick. Headbutts.

You'll have CM Punk fight, but not Ben Askren. Oh, yeah. The UFC. Yeah. What the fuck world are we living in? Money, that's money. What are you talking about? It's a very good point.

It's a headline right there. Didn't like five billion people watch him? Yeah. No, it was... He's 800,000. He's a star. He made a ton of money. He made a half a million dollars on paper, what they show, and people were complaining

about it. I'm like, do you know how many eyes that guy brought to that show? Yes, he's worth that money. He's a very, very famous guy. And I think he handled it really well. Like, as far as like his post-fight speech, his interview,

the way he talked about it, he handled it really... He gave Mickey Gall a real weird speech to him after it was over. But you also gotta realize in some cases, you gotta believe in yourself

the way I believe in myself. Bitch, I just beat you to death. You just got humiliated. That's not really where I want to get my advice from. He went into WWE mode right away, right? I think that's his world, man. This is really his first venture into reality. And, you know, I mean, you go out there and you think everything's going to go great because it's gone great your whole life with no competition.

And then all of a sudden your first competition is in the UFC. How is it going to go any other way? It's insane. But maybe he liked it. Maybe he was like, fuck him. He says he did. He says he did. There's no way they let him fight again.

There's no way. If he liked it, most people were like, fuck that. I'm not going to go with my family there. He could totally fight again. He could totally fight again. In the UFC, no. But not in the UFC. He's got to fight as an amateur. Joe, he can't. And he's got to learn. He ruined that shot again. He could totally fight again. In the UFC, no. But not in the UFC. He's got to fight as an amateur.

Joe, he can't. And he's got to learn. He ruined that shot. You can't fight an amateur. When you fight pro, you can't fight amateur. Oh, is that how it works? Yeah. Okay.

There's no going back. Well, then you can fight pro. But listen, you just got to fight people that are of the same ability as you, people that are learning. You know what they should do? Yeah, he should go on a regional circuit and fight guys with similar experience, have a whole documentary like getting back to the UFC and fucking sell that thing. Yeah, it would be huge.

And drop the CM Punk. What's his real name? Phil Brooks? Yeah. You're Phil Brooks, motherfucker. Drop the CM Punk thing. I like keeping it because he had that name before he came to WWE. That was his name.

That's why he owns it. That's why he's allowed to use it still. And everybody knows him as that. It's a smart move as far as like marketing I think that guy could still go on the regional shirt circuit and fight people that are just starting out they're just starting out just like him and he could probably become like a competent fighter a competent professional fighter but that's something that takes a long time it's not like he has any handicaps I love he has a will if he has a will handicaps. I love how positive you are. If he has a will and he has the desire, because he enjoys it apparently. If he has a will and he has a desire and he wants to test himself, I firmly believe that

that guy could go and become a competent professional fighter. No, I didn't say that. I said a competent professional fighter. I think he's a smart guy. I think he's a tough guy. I just think this was his first real combat sports experience. I don't think that's a smart guy. I think he's a tough guy. I just think this was his first real combat sports experience. And I don't think that's a small thing. I just think they did him a disservice.

Granted, he made whatever, seven figures after pay-per-view bonus. I just think they did him a disservice. If he actually wanted to pursue this as a career, Dana, the commission, his coaches went, listen, man, you've got to take the necessary steps like everyone else did because there's no turning back. Once you go to the UFC, man, you're in and out, brother. Well, you know, guys have come back. They've gone to other organizations and come back. At 38 with no skills, trained for two years, it's not likely. It's not likely, but it's also not likely that you become a professional fighter at 37 as well.

None of these things are likely. Well, there's a reason for that, though, right? Well, most people are doing something else by the time they're 38, and it's not their career path. It's very rare that someone decides to go into that at such a late stage of life. But look, if he's in good shape and he's a healthy guy, what he needs to do is, if he wants to learn, just train all the time. Train all the time and take your time in getting involved in competition again. Because you can't get in an argument with someone when you only know four words. Yeah, I like the guy.

It's just not going to work, right? And it's the same thing as a fight. He's fighting this kid who I watched Mickey Gall fight in the UFC his first fight. I'm like, this fucking kid is good. Look how he takes that guy's back. Remember, he only has three fights. Mickey Gall has some serious work to do as well in that division. He has a long ways to go.

And he dismantled CM Punk. He has a long ways to go. And he dismantled CM Punk. But he's a legit brown belt. Legit brown belt, but he still has, if you look at the spectrum of that division at 170, he has a lot of work to do. Of course. He has a lot of promise. But he's still very new. Well, that was kind of what CM Punk was

saying to him, because he was saying that he didn't belong in the UFC, and the only reason why he was in the UFC was to fight CM Punk. He was kind of saying that. But what the kid's UFC and the only reason why he was in the UFC was to fight CM Punk. He was kind of saying that. But what the kid's doing is being smart. He's just self-deprecating. He's a smart fucking kid. I like how he called out Sage Northcutt.

Me too. Said he was corny. Me too. It was really good. Really good. Dropped a few F-bombs. He did crazy little fight speech. I'd watch that fight.

Oh, fuck yeah. And you know what? What's fucking, does Sage have a fight coming up? I don't know, dude. That's the heartthrob fight. Those two. Couple one-two cuties. Couple dime pieces going at it.

I don't know what Mickey Gall drives. Hopefully something cool. Yeah, he's going to have to drive American and then shit on the other dude for driving a Japanese car. Yeah, Ford, hook him up. America gets after him. Yeah. I didn't even know.

That feller's got a Japanese car. Hook him up, Trump. Yeah, someone's got to get him up. And not even know. That fella's got a Japanese car. Hook him up, Trump. Someone's got to get him up. And not even like a Corvette. Like a Camaro. It has to be a Shelby, bro. Mustang. Mustang. The new one. Just shits on him. Juan Canero back in the action. Kenny Robertson. This is a good fight. Kenny Robertson's slick.

Kenny Robertson's the one that hit that weird leg lock. You remember that weird leg lock he got from a scramble? It was a real strange knee bar. I was like, dude, I don't think I've seen one of those before. I don't remember. A while ago. Yeah, I'm trying to remember how he hit it.

Dude, how about... Oh, here it is. He fought Ben Saunders. Who the fuck is that? Yeah, that's just Kenny Robinson talking. Why, they have it in the video? He's solid. Solid wrestler.

Good jiu-jitsu. Looks every bit of 47. The knee bar is? He's no joke, man. Kenny Robinson. No, Kenny Robinson's very smart. That was a tough fight. Him knee bars? He's no joke, man. Kenny Robertson. No, Kenny Robertson's very smart. That was a tough fight. Him and Ben Sonner, that was tough.

Yeah. Three hard rounds. Dude, how about your boy Chael Sonnen signing Bellator? Good move. Very good move. Smart move for him. Listen, man, I hope Shane Carwin does it, too. Not necessarily that I hope Shane doesn't sign with the UFC.

I hope he signs wherever he gets the best deal, 100%. But I think it's good to have guys like Rory. It's good to have legit world-class fighters over there. I like it. I think competition's good for everything. It's good for everybody. It elevates everybody everywhere. With Chael, it was like last night I was watching

Bellator and they had Chael do it. He does this whole gangster shit-talking. Remember, he hasn't been around in a while. So when you used to like freaking Conor McGregor shit talking, when CM Punk, it was like Hot Tub Time Machine. Like, it was a little old school. And I talk Chael. I love Chael.

I fucking love Chael. But I was like, eesh, this is tough. This is old school. It certainly seemed prepared. Yes. Yeah, but isn't that always how he did it? It was always like

WWE promo. Yeah, but it was more natural, but also there's no, like, he's calling out Tito Ortiz, you know, and there's like no real animosity.

And then Tito tweeted back like, I'm gonna show you the bad guys at the bad girl party. I'm like, god damn it. We had two 40-year-olds talking shit on Twitter. Look at Joe. Silence. And I love, god damn it. We had two 40-year-olds talking shit on Twitter. Look at Joe.

Silence. And I fucking loved Joe. I loved to see him fight, but seeing his shit talking compared to Conor's, it's like, well, Conor took that torch and ran with it. Yeah, I had dinner the other night with Maynard from Tool. Maynard Keenan is a buddy of mine. Yeah. He's in jiu-jitsu. He's a purple

belt. Loves jiu-jitsu. Loves MMA. And we were talking about the UFC, and he goes, god damn it. Why the fuck is it becoming a WWE? He goes, this is making me sad. He's in jiu-jitsu. He's a purple belt. Loves jiu-jitsu. Loves MMA. And we were talking about the UFC. And he goes, God damn it. Why the fuck is it becoming the WWE? He goes, this is making me sad. He's like, everybody's trying to be Conor McGregor. And they're coming up with these corny fucking pre-fight promos. It's tough, man. And he's like, oh.

It makes me just want to not. Because he's just a fucking super smart genius dude. Purest of the sport. And he loves martial arts. So when he sees non-martial artist type behavior, like pro wrestling type behavior, I'm like, look, they're just trying to sell themselves. TJ Dillashaw is talking about it.

He goes, I just beat the fucking number two contender. I'm ranked number one. Give me the fucking rematch. What do I got to do? He goes, I'm not a shit talker. I'm not going to do that. I'll tell you, I'm not fighting anyone but that. I went, I don't know if it's enough. Is there any way you can watch like Ric Flair or some shit and just pick up a couple?

Yeah, come on. Can you just pick up a few things? Like watch Macho Man and just start spitting some game online. It's sports entertainment. But the thing is, you can't, like Connor is that guy. That's him. Like that's how he talks all the time. He's a sharp shit talker from Ireland and he knows how to fight, and he knows how to talk,

and it's an unusual combination. Yes. Most guys don't know how to talk that know how to fight, and most guys who know how to talk don't know how to fight. Correct. When you can talk that much shit and fight that well... You're a unicorn. Well, he's a unicorn also. He can fight. The mind-fuckings he puts

on dudes, because he can talk so much shit, the love of all those people that are behind him, all those Irish people, and then the mind fucking from them screaming at you all the time the entire six weeks up until the fight. And then the shit that he says about you and the fact that he might very well sleep you. Correct. He might very well drop that nuclear left hand on your face. Rumor is Eddie Alvarez and him tangoing. I know a little something that I wish I could tell. Drop it. Well, drop that nuclear left hand on your face. What rumor is Eddie Alvarez and him tangoing? I know a little something that I wish I could tell. Ah, drop it, son.

Hey, just give me an eyebrow raise. Let's just, let's just, let's just, let's just. If it was a rumor, there's the Kenny Robertson arm bar, or leg lock. He took it from the back. That's what it was. Oh, yeah. Crazy, right? Yeah, I remember that one.

Damn. Motherfucker stretched out. Yeah. See, that shit wouldn. Oh, yeah. Crazy, right? Yeah, I remember that one. Damn. Motherfucker stretched out. Yeah. See, that shit wouldn't work with me. Yeah, you're too stretchy. But then you got Ron Carnero, who's a jiu-jitsu black belt, really good on the ground. Super high level. He'd fight forever.

Yeah. Carnero's nasty. On the ground, Kenny's going to have a hard time. He sure did, sir. His jiu-jitsu's very nasty. Very nasty. Yeah, it's an interesting fight, man. With Eddie and Connor?

Yeah. If it happens, allegedly, at Madison Square Garden, if it happens, allegedly, in a couple months. Yes. Maybe it is going to happen. Maybe it is going to happen. But if it does happen... Eddie's a big boy. Think that might happen, Joe?

Eddie's a big boy. Eddie can grapple. He can grapple. People forget that motherfucker can wrestle his ass off. He's a fucking grinder. And whatever endurance issues Conor may have, he better iron those fuckers out before you go to town with that guy. You know I'm the biggest Conor McGregor fan on the planet.

I love that guy. But looking at his potential opponents at 155 and at 70, it's like, fuck, man. It doesn't look pretty. And Eddie's a rough matchup for him. It's probably his easiest. It really is. I don't think it's an easy one at all. I'm saying at 55,

they're all fucking tough. They are all tough. Stylistically, if you're like, God damn, I guess Eddie's the best matchup, that's saying a lot. Because Eddie's a fucking nightmare. I don't think Eddie's the best matchup at all. Who would you say is?

First of all, Eddie's known for having a chin. He's known for having a chin and known for being able to bounce back from getting hurt. He's got massive heart, and he fights at his best when the chips are on the line. Like in Dos Anjos' fight. Nobody gave him a shot in that fight. Who gave him a shot in that fight? He was probably like a at least 2-1 underdog, right? For sure.

He's going into that fight with a dominant champion, Rafael Dos Anjos, who just got done stopping Cowboy Cerrone in the first round, working Nate Diaz, beating the shit out of Pettis for five rounds. You're looking at Dos Anjos going, holy shit, this guy might be able to run this division for a long time. And Alvarez clips him. And he looked real

good before he clipped him. He looked fast and sharp. He had some sleeper fights before then. We didn't see the real Eddie Alvarez until that fight. That's the fucking Bellator. That's the fucking free agent that we want to see. The Gilbert Melendez fight, the Petis fight. Jesus Christ. He's gotten better.

You know, part of it is he's gotten better. Well, the UFC jitters are real. No matter if you have 30 fights or apparently if you have zero, if you're CM Punk, those jitters are real. Where is he training now? Who, Eddie Alvarez? Is he with your boy Mark Henry? He's with Mark Henry. That's a big part of it. And Frankie Edgar, and he's wrestling at Rutgers. He's a monster, man.

I'm telling you, Mark Henry is a motherfucker, dude. They have Barbosa. They have all those guys. But you look at the top five, and for Conor, it's fucking tough, man. Yeah, it is tough. But I think that's part of the reason why Eddie looks so good now. He looks so fucking sharp. You can't discount the fact he's training with Barboza, he's training with Frankie Edgar,

and he's absorbing from Henry. He's the mastermind of Mark Henry. He's a bad motherfucker, dude. He's the most slept-on trainer. Mark Henry, the most slept-on trainer. It's because he doesn't want to be in the limelight and he hates that stuff. But if he was more outspoken, I mean, Jesus Christ, he'd be all over the map. Rashad pulled me aside at one of the UFCs and was just going on and on about what a

bad motherfucker he is. I've never seen anything like him. He still checks in on me all the time. I don't fight anymore. I worked with him for maybe two or three weeks and he would have, I'm telling you, man, like a pad like this in his basement. I had sores on my feet because I was barefoot in his basement doing footwork nonstop. He had notes for fucking days.

Like he's obsessed with it. Yeah, he's brilliant. Clearly on the spectrum. Makes the best pizza in fucking New Jersey and the world, too. I heard. I heard he's a silly cook. Oh, what? My God. That motherfucker's pizza is off the charts. And that's a place where pizza is, like, highly

praised. Like, you gotta come with some real pizza if you wanna make a living selling pizza in New Jersey. Coaching up world champions and making mean-ass pizza. I don't think that's an easy fight. I'm not saying it is, Joe. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying if you look at those top five, none of them are easy

at all. The future doesn't look great at 55. I can't say that either. Look at that top five. Tell me the best matchup. Nate is clearly one of the best. Nate's clearly one of the best 155 pounders. Diaz? Yes. He's better at 55 than he is

at 70. Yeah, well 70's not really fighting at 70. I mean he fought Rory at 70. He fought... I'm just saying he fought Conor at 70 and that was a tough outing. But they did that because that's what they did the first time when they took the fight last minute. He wanted to have the exact same conditions. Correct. That's why Conor did it at 70, and that was a tough outing. But they did that because that's what they did the first time when they took the fight last minute notice. He wanted to have the exact same conditions. That's why Conor did it at 70 again.

But Nate's a 155-er. And at 155, like when he fought Michael Johnson, when he's shredded, he looked at his best, right? He's a better Nate Diaz. Yeah, and if you see the Nate Diaz that beat Michael Johnson at 55, he's one of the best fighters in that division. Hands down. Hands down. Not even close. So Conor just beat him.

I mean, obviously a very close fight, very close decision. But I think it was probably a fair decision. I don't have to go over it and score it. I haven't gone over it and scored it. It was a fair decision. I mean, I don't think anyone lost in that fight. But going to the judges, I did have Conor slightly edging that fight. I think you look at the damage done.

He did more damage. He dropped Nate. You know what Nate says about that? I saw Nate at the grocery store randomly, and he was saying that he was falling on purpose to dupe Conor. And he goes, I knew the first three rounds were going to be, he's so fast, it's going to be tough. So when he hit me, the plan was to fall down,

to get him to follow me down. He goes, because I couldn't take him down, so the plan was to get him to follow me down there. Ooh, that's interesting. That's a risky game plan. That's a very risky game plan. That's from the horse's mouth. That's one of those,

is that one of those I'm meant to do that things? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know Nicky has enough to be like, you serious? That's the Pee Wee Herman defense. Yeah.

Either way. I meant to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Either way, Nate's one of the best in the world. He's more of a nightmare at 55 is what I'm trying to get to. Yeah. I agree.

He's a tougher fight at 55. I think, yeah. I mean, I think he fights better when he's lighter. You know, it probably sucks to get down there, but you're lighter and you move faster. He has better cardio. Yeah. This is going to be a good fight, man. This will be a good, but you're lighter and you move faster. He has better cardio. Yeah. This is going to be a good fight, man. This will be a good fight.

Kenny Robertson and Juan Carnero. I haven't watched 30 seconds. Robertson with a nice knee to the body there. So I think what I love about Conor is that that's what he wants to do. I don't think he can make 45 anymore. Me neither. His camp says he can't either. No way.

It's just too hard. He looks so bad. So he has the 45 belt. He just beat Nate at 70. Then let's say he mercs Eddie Alvarez, so he's the 145-155 champ. What? Then what do you do? I kind of want to see him rematch Aldo, though.

I kind of do. God, I don't. I kind of want to see him fight again at 45. Nothing bad. When they say it's too tough for him now, without the IVs and stuff. Carneo got their back. This is no good. Ooh, I like how he butterflies that back leg.

Let's see if that works. Ooh, look at that. To the back. Look at that. Very nice. He squozes way to the back. Yeah. Ooh, look at that squeeze.

That's nice. Good wrist control. I think there's better fights at 45 when you think of Aldo, Max Holloway. Oh, shit. Oh, Kenny, good job recovering. Look, he's got the underhook. Oh, still battling. Right here.

There he goes. Oh, he goes underneath. Underneath. Underneath. Deep half. Oh, shit. You got it. Cone narrow. Oh, he goes underneath. Underneath. Underneath. Deep half. Oh, shit. Conero. Oh, Kenny Robertson with that wrestling.

Very nice. Nice escape. Kenny Robertson's got some weird hand movements he does right before he punches. Very kush. Keith Jardine-ish. Yeah, yeah. He lets his hands go limp and then wiggle around. I wonder if he does that on purpose.

I wonder if there's a strategy behind that. Like maybe to remind himself To fight loose Hmm Or maybe it's just a tick Yeah Maybe it's like one of those twitches Like Boss You know Alex Davis

Boss used to write big R's on his hands When he was fighting Yeah For relax Yeah to make him relax Yeah Pancreas. That's so easy said than done.

Yeah. Especially when you're fighting someone who just constantly puts pressure on you. Mm-hmm. But going back to that cardio thing, man, when two guys are skillfully very similar, but one guy's just got some stupendous Marv Marinovich style gas tank and he knows

how to fight but now he's just got this unbelievable gas tank you're talking about that Cain Velasquez yeah like well Cain knows

how to fight obviously but well the scariest thing about Cain is the volume he puts on his cardio

at heavyweight it's insane you tell me dude you tell me a better you tell me a better heavyweight matchup besides maybe Uber Eam and Brock, besides Stipe versus Kane. That's the fucking fight of the century, son. It's amazing.

Besides a roided to the dick Over Eam versus a juiced up Brock, which I was all for. I was like, oh, hell yeah. That was sick. But a supplement-free. But supplement-free Kane versus supplement-free Stipe, sign me up. It's a great fight. They're very similar, man. Stipe is so gangster.

Out of the two, which would you rather see, though? Juice City. But not now. In a heartbeat. No, no, no. Not in 2016 or 2017. You're not trying to see juiced up Reign versus juiced up Brock now. Well, if they hadn't had that first fight, I would.

Yeah. If you bring them back to the same place they were, the same place they were at the time. Oh, I agree. That's amazing. Alster's first fight in the UFC. You know what? Brock making a comeback after losing his title. Nah, I disagree.

Steve Avers came to the fucking fight, man. Listen, you don't have to disagree. We just have... We want different things out of this world. You gotta be a disagreement. There's nothing wrong with that. I want Jew City. You want Jew City on a football field?

I want Pride 2003 on a football field. What the fuck is wrong with them? On a football field. Because I think the cage is an artificial boundary. And I think it plays a big factor in movement and a big factor in the fight. I mean, how much fucking footwork do you need for a 25 foot or 30 foot cage?

30 feet's a big cage. Is that bigger than it used to be or no? You can have the cage the way it is. But have a border where if you pass that border, you gotta get back inside. So the cage never becomes a factor. So if you're fighting and you take a guy down and his ass

scoots outside of the boundary line but there's still 50 feet in any one direction. If someone's driving forward, you take that guy, you move him to the middle of the cage or the middle of the mat and you assume the same position. That's not hard to do. They did that in Pride all day long. They could do that.

They have replays. They could see exactly where a guy was set up. The referee holds on him. Ready, set, fight. And you go back to fighting again. That way there's never any artificial cage that's in the way that helps you get back up to your feet. Everybody would have way harder a time getting back up to their feet if there was no cage. If you couldn't wall walk, it's a big factor. And getting the takedown.

Oh, yeah. Getting the takedown would be completely different, too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Drop down, scoop your hands together. Because the guy can't move. He can't keep backing up and pummeling under. But it's hard to take guys down when they're against the fence and they're just leaning on the fence.

There's an art to that. Correct. And if the fence wasn't there, they'd get taken down easier. Via check congo, yeah. It's a factor. The cage is a factor. I like that factor. It's part of the game. It's a factor. The cage is a factor. I like that factor. It's part of the game.

Yeah, me too. I think there should be a sport like a fence wrestling sport. Like, I don't watch NASCAR, but I don't watch it anyways. It feels just freaky. Elevator fights. And you've got to take the guy down, and the guy's got to use the fence to get taken down. You've got like a minute to take him down or something. The guys that get really good at that translate to MMA a lot better, right?

Yeah, maybe. I think that we would be better off, though, if it wasn't a factor. That's not going to happen. I just think it's too late for that. This is what I think. I think fighting as a sport should be as pure as possible. And it's not as pure as possible. I think

kicks on the ground, soccer kicks, stomps, no cage. No gloves. What about mouthpiece? Yes. Mouthpiece is good because if you get punched, it's going to go straight through your fucking lips. Your teeth go through your lips.

You can't have that bacteria. You can't have that bacteria, Joe. People get stabbed on their knuckles. Bacteria, staff. Rogan's FC. I can see it coming now. You could get stabbed on your knuckles, though.

That is a good point because when guys punch guys with bare teeth, like in street fights, they get stabbed all the time. Yeah, more common than you'd think. It's real dangerous. If you don't treat it, your fucking hand falls off.

Gangrene and shit. It's nasty. Human mouth is gross. But just between the cage and the soccer kicks on the ground, how different the sport would evolve in five years. It would change. Just how different the techniques you guys would be using. Everything you'd be doing.

Kicks on the ground to the face, they should already do. That would be combos where a guy's mounted like Vanderlei used to do Yeah, you get the mount throw a couple punches then stand up and stomp and walk away Yeah, that's a combo right if a guy should can up kick you you should be able to stomp him. Yeah, 100% 100% it changes the game of jiu-jitsu like tremendously especially elbows to the back of the head Dude, you better make a move quick quick you can't get turtled up you can't get turtled up just like that you should be able to fuck a dude up for turtling how many dudes just get broken by that though how many careers would get caught way short you see it coming and like after a while the ref would go you know if you do this and hold it for three seconds and the guy didn't move, you stop the fight. You don't have to connect.

I was like Gary Goodrich in one of his earlier fights. He got him in the fucking crucifix. Oh, my God. That was probably the worst knockout of everything. I was thinking when Gary Goodrich grabbed a guy's dick. Yeah, I went full. Crushed a guy. What?

Yeah, the Pedro, a dude in Brazil. He reached into his pants and grabbed his dick and balls and crushed it. Crushed it. I turned his nuts into peanut butter. For real? That actually happened. There was no rules. There was no rules.

Zero. All sweaty and shit. Just crushed them nuts. The dude was wearing briefs. Brazilians like wearing those pro wrestling briefs. Gary Goodrich versus Pedro. Right there. Vicious groin attacks.

That's it. Yeah. Damn, Jamie's good. That's after the fight. He's trying to, hey, man, you know, I'm just doing my thing. I'm sorry, Vicious groin attacks. That's it. Yeah. Damn, Jamie's good. That's after the fight. He's trying to, hey, man, you know, I'm just doing my thing. I was like, fuck you. Jamie's on fire. What do you mean doing your thing?

Grabbing my dick like that. Squoze your balls and dick. Peanut butter. Yeah, that's not good. So Kenny Robertson on top. Juan Carnero on the bottom looking for the arm triangle. Not pulling it off. It's going to be hard to do anything else.

I'm excited for Uriah Hall, Brunson. Me too. But he's coming after him. So, Eddie, in this position, right, you want to underhook on that side, right? The side that has the half guard. The guy on the bottom wants to get the underhook. Obviously, the guy on top wanted to keep that underhook and keep that head and arm. And Cornero went right to it.

He knows what he's doing. He went right to it. Went right to that underhook. He's not playing. He's a pretty decorated guy, though, huh? Yeah, he's super talented. Super talented. I was going to say Alex Davis, his manager, was telling me about rolling with him.

What a nightmare it is. Nightmare, huh? Yeah. He's got to get in there and go. He's got to go under. He's got to stay there, yeah. This is the difference between just straight grappling and grappling with a dude like Kenny Robertson who's allowed to punch you in the face, elbow you in the face.

It's going to change some things up. It changes everything. Oh, there he goes. He's going to the leg. Oh, shit. Can he do it? Oh, slippy slip. Very nice.

Paid for that, too. Oh, look at him. He's mounted. He's mounted. Oh, good shrimp. Butterfly. Full guard. There you go.

Now, this is where a rubber guard comes into play. Left, right arm pinned to the mat. I'm not sure he has the flexibility to play rubber guard. I'm not sure. But if he could, it's a good place for it. He had that Eddie knowledge. He could. Well, it's a flexibility issue, too.

He's a friend of mine. Oh, nice elbow. I gave him the DVD once, but I don't think he's flexible enough. God damn it, they're not working, Eddie. Huh? They're not working for him. Maybe he didn't study it. He never went to it. That flexibility, son.

When someone's a rubber guard player, they go to it right away. You can just tell that's their stance. Yeah, it's your comfort zone. He's trying to set it off off of wrist control on the left arm. Nothing wrong with that. As long as you keep that clench. He's keeping that right arm tight. Oh, look at this.

Good adjust. Good adjust. Oh, look what he's doing there. Holy shit, that's like a rat guard doing there. Holy shit. That's interesting. That's like a rat guard right there. That's what it's called? There's a guard called Rat Guard, and he's doing it right now. Love the name.

Rat it up. Rat it up. He's trying to go past that elbow. Wow, it's working. He's trying to go past that right elbow, but he's not sure how to commit it. Oh, shit. He got him. Oh, my goodness.

He got him. That's amazing. That's legit. Damn. Oh, my God. That was amazing. Successful rat there. That was beautiful. Yeah, I got to look into that. And he amazing. That's legit. Damn. Oh, my God. That was amazing. Successful rat there. That was beautiful.

Yeah, look at that. And he goes into a mounted triangle. Kenny looked hurt, too. Yeah, that probably did not feel good. That did not look fun. Dude, I need to learn that. Ratguard is actually the guy who made it up. I forget his name.

Best name ever. I love it. Anyways, he's been doing it for like now 10 years now. And he always called it rubber guard for guys that have no flexibility. Because I think he had an accident. He had an accident. His hips all fucked up. So what Roan was doing right there, that's legit shit.

Oh, obviously. It worked. I mean, look what it did. It changed the fight. It kept telling me, dude, it's real. It's real. I swear. I'm like, I don't know.

He's looking for that arm triangle. Look at that. Oh, he's going to try to go for a Kimura now. That's real. I swear. I'm like, I don't know. He's looking for that arm triangle. Look at that. He's going to try to go for a Kimura now, but it's too high up. That's the guy right there. That's the master rat. Jamie needs a raise. Goddamn. Jamie is fucking on the ball.

Goddamn. And the coffee tonight is extra fucking fresh. That's caveman coffee, son. But now he turns it off. With a Jamie touch, though. I take back what I said. Take it back. There it is.

So this is rat guard. So that second round, though. I take back what I said. Take it back. There it is. So this is rat guard. So that second round is over. He's got the grip down. A lot of guys, they like to play the rubber guard positions. Hi, rat boys. It sounds very rat-like. It is. Listen.

But I have actually a damaged leg. So you notice at certain angles I can't play. And this, I developed the rat guard as an alternative to the rubber guard because I have a paralysis in my leg. So, what I'm gonna do is most people play low. There's no way we're watching this whole thing while we're in the middle of a podcast. Just the first control. The first thing he does. Okay. If you hate ratings. Just watch, watch.

Yeah. Just that first little control of you. Show a whole Rat Guard video. I'm pulling my legs in, put my hand on his ear, and push. As if I'm going for a guillotine. However, I'm not going for a guillotine. I'm grabbing my shin here or my leg under here. That's exactly what he was doing. Yeah.

And then he swept him with it. He swept him with it and he turned it into a triangle. Mm-hmm. Okay, here we go. Round three. Powerful rat master. Oh, shit. That's going to blow up now.

That's interesting. Juan Carnero on the ball, recognizing all sorts of different moves. That's one of the most important things about jiu-jitsu, right? Being able to understand all the new shit that's going on. Yeah, I never went to it. I never bothered playing it only because i do have the flexibility i didn't need to do that but fuck seems like an interesting i'm sold now yeah i'm all over it now see carnell's gotta be super nervous now i mean uh robertson's gotta be super nervous now being uh reversed in a position like that put in a a bad spot. His jiu-jitsu is really good, and he's got good wrestling.

So that was a legit accident. Oh, reverse, son. Get out. Get out, son. Oh, my goodness. Nice exchange. Nice. Robertson is.

Oh. Oh, see? This is where Nick Kershaw comes into play. Get that cardio up, son. I would like to know what is the very best method to prepare. I would really like to know. Is it possible that Juan Carnero could have done something different and could be like Mighty Mouse here in this third round?

Or is it simply a function of being 170 pounds, being a bigger man, cutting the weight down? Is it? I'm sure genetics have something to do with it. For sure. I just want to know. You can train your body to gas. I mean, that's what real sprinting is,

training your body to gas and recover, gas, recover. You're on a clock. Gas, recover. Gas, recover. So you do it so much so you could be fucking dead tired in a match, and you're like, I'm going to recover in about 20 seconds. The fights are so unpredictable. You can train your body to do that.

It's tough to train like that to a T a t it is i don't think there's a perfect answer you know it's there's i mean there may be but it's about optimization like how could you take a guy like whether it's carnero oh shit beautiful left hook or anybody any fighter for that matter and train them physically to like a perfect state like turn woodley into fucking demetrius johnson yeah but well you wouldn't i mean obviously johnson doesn't have the kind of horsepower that woodley has either when you have that's why i'm saying genetics is a huge part of it like the vehicle the vessel you're messing with you know what i like can only do so much what i did was swim sprints and what i liked about that is first of all i hate running but when you're doing swim

sprints no matter how exhausted you get i give you 20 of them or whatever that's what I was doing no matter how exhausted you get at 14 15 and 16 when you're sprinting across the pool your your breathing has to be perfect so there's all this chaos going on in your head and you're sprinting across your breathing has to be perfect or you swallow water right so that that's the beauty and then there's you know the then there's the impact. There's no impact. It's a natural movement.

And it makes you focus on your breathing when you're at your worst possible state. I think also for jujitsu, it's really good because it's not just leg dependent. Because when you're running, your arms rarely get tired. What's getting tired are your legs, like almost only your legs, your lungs and your legs. Your arms are obviously playing a part because you're pumping your arms and you're moving, but they're not getting nearly as tired as your fucking legs. Yeah.

When you're swimming, your arms get tired as fuck. Full body. Yeah. Tired as fuck. It worked great for me. And if you wear flippers, I bet your legs get even more work, right? Because of all the resistance. But you can also do flippers on the hands to Doggy paddle you don't even have to swim you just have to sprint, you know, and yeah, yeah, it's some bullshit. Yeah, yeah

You really you really need to get if if you want to do it right you get with a swim coach So you can get efficient. Yeah and learn how to really do it. Kenny Robertson coming on strong here. Nice jab by Carnero. You can do it on your own. You don't need a trainer. The cool thing about swimming is if you do it on a clock where every time the clock hits 12, you sprint. However long it takes you to get across the pool, it could be 25 seconds, it could be

23 seconds, 27 seconds, you rest until that clock hits 12 again so so what you end up doing is you don't need anybody to tell you to push you're sprinting for that rest time it's a it's a mind fuck that's the beauty of the sprints in the water too you're sprinting to rest because you know if you fuck up and you just like kind of give up halfway through you're gonna fuck up the rotation the clock now you fucked your whole system up yeah i love you got to do that 20 times across a pool. You go to 24-hour fitness. It's like a 20-yard pool.

I don't know, maybe 30-yard pool. Do it in the ocean if you're gangster, son. Haunting arrows, running out of gas here. It's kind of hard in the ocean. Where do you stop and where do you go? You stop in a fucking shark eye. You got to have a clear start and stop point. Yeah, or you're just doing it for time.

Exactly. You can do it for time. Well, that's a whole different scenario. This is just for pure sprinting. Yeah, but you're doing it off time until it hits the 12, right? Do they make heart rate monitors that work in the ocean? I don't know. I bought the new fucking iPhone 7 because I thought it could go in the ocean for this reason.

Then I find out you can't go in the ocean with it. The iPhone 7 doesn't go in the ocean? Well, that's the salt, though, right? Salt is really bad for you. No, they say the water, like even if you drop in fresh water, you have like a couple minutes to blow out. It's certified at 30 minutes. Oh, it's not really waterproof? It's like 30 minutes at 9 feet deep.

What do you do for cardio? Your cardio must be nuts. Punch people in the face. Cardio is pretty good. Smoke cigarettes. You got a big fight coming up. What are you do for cardio? Your cardio must be nuts. Punch people in the face. Smoke cigarettes. You got a big fight coming up. What are you doing for your cardio? Well,

I do a lot of running. Sprints? Yeah. How do you set it up? You don't just go jog. No, I'll jog at least three days a week, three to five miles. And then I'll do sprints. I used to do one mile sprint twice a week. like three to five miles and then uh i'll do sprints like i used to do like uh how do

you do your sprint one mile sprint twice a week a full mile as hard as you can go yeah and i would try to keep track of that what's your time son my fastest time ever which i think is still on my instagram was like a 5 28 or something like that that's rolling and that was somebody in the car like next to me yelling at me like keeping me motivated the whole time and just going to like I couldn't go anywhere Jesus Christ have you ever gassed in a fight

where you lost because you were just gassed you didn't do proper cardio yeah you have number of times and then after that you're like fuck that

I'm gonna get on your cardio's probably on point next fight yeah for sure that next fight it's just you know there's so many

there's so many aspects of your just your daily life that'll fuck up your cardio or fuck up your training camp. You were saying where if Cornelio would have done something slightly different. It was like maybe his girlfriend was pissed off at him. You don't know what else happened in his life. It would just be crazy.

And then you're like, well, did I fuck this up because I didn't train properly or because my fucking car broke down? Whatever else happened in your life. Interesting. Keeping peace in your life with anything you're trying to do if you can keep peace in your personal life gigantic. Everything man. Or you get sick or you broke your

fucking toe and now you can't run for the last couple weeks or you twisted your knee or your shoulder joint was fucked up and now I can't do my swim sprints. All the shit that goes on behind the scenes with fighters, it's what... How many guys do you know, Joe, especially in entertainment, being comedians who are out chasing tail all the time and they're distracted? Yeah, that'll do it.

Athletes too. I know athletes who do the same thing. Yeah, it gets in your way. Yeah, it gets in your way. You trip over your own dick. And people also use it as an excuse. Correct. They don't do everything they could do, so they always have that thing in the back of their head that there's room for improvement.

And, yeah, next time. Next time I'll get it together. But, you know, most of the time that next time never comes. Your brain will give you these sort of escape routes. And that's one of the ones that unfortunately, it seems so counterintuitive, but it happens to a lot of people. I've never seen more of it until I came to LA. Carnero won.

He lost that last round. Leads to look like it. From what we're seeing. Because Kenny Robertson was coming out strong, but take down, reversals, submission attempts. Obviously we didn't score it the 30 seconds I thought

saw I'd give to Canero well the last round was what was interesting to me was cause Kenny kept charging after him this is where Kenny reversed him

is this all in the last round no boom beautiful right hand boom with the left hook yeah it's it's hard you know we're talking shit while we're watching

these things yeah it's tough yeah i was talking about i was thinking about carl's junior to be honest that fucking ad got me carl jones in for some junk food right now really yeah i had a little junk food now i'm fucking oh you cheated a little bit i cheated a little bit would be understandable yeah you went off i went off like a rocket i went off like fucking denzel washington flight where he you remember when he got to the little oh you didn't see it he's an alcoholic and they they give him a mini fridge with just tons of stuff he's trying to recover he just goes fucking nuts that was me yeah and now i'm back on it now i hope but that commercial fucking took me back to some dark places. The problem is if you get off ketosis, you've got to do something to get back on it again.

Come on, son. I get the supplements. You taking ketones? Yeah. Ketosis. You're doing the low-carb thing? Yeah. Yeah, I've been on it for grip now.

You haven't done them. I feel great. Really? Yeah. I'm also not fat anymore, so it's a plus. Big happy with that? Yeah. It'm also not fat anymore, so it's a plus. Big happy with that. Yeah. It's a super plus.

Rick Glenn and Evan Dunham. God, Evan Dunham. That motherfucker been fighting for a long time, man. Still around. Yeah, I got some right here. Still around and cracking. He's a guy with phenomenal jiu-jitsu and just says, I want to bang. Yeah, he's got good striking, too, though. His striking is good. Pretty good. His jiu-jitsu and just says i want to bang yeah he's got good

striking too though his striking pretty good his jiu-jitsu is phenomenal yeah real good yeah it's gonna be an interesting for what is this batman nonsense they're showing us in this commercial today's national batman day is it really yeah my kids uh we're all about it today national just to play batman day dude it's Batman Day. Dude, it's National Batman Day, Dad. I love Batman. I was like, fuck, I didn't know. Hmm. Batman, the Telltale Sea.

Oh, so they made a DVD? No, it's a video game for Xbox. Oh, it's a video game? Yeah, a video game. I'd play the fuck of that if I didn't have a kid. We just bought a Batman toy from the deck. Worships Batman. Boys love it.

Today is National Batman Day. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. My six-year-old told me this morning. National Batman. If you get around, get around. Should I wear this shirt? They're not going to know.

You should have. Send me a text. Where's your Batman? I would have rocked the Batman. I got the old school Adam West tee. It's fucking dope. I got it from Junk Food. Did you ever read the story of Adam West and Wonder Boy, whatever his name is, Boy Wonder? They were just fucking everything that moves back down.

No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wrote a book about it. The dude who played Robin wrote a book about how much pussy they were getting. Oh, my God. I want to read that. Good charts. Good for him.

They were a big deal. Those are the stories they never talk about, usually. They never talk about that shit. Guys always keep that shit secret. Are you telling me Robin was getting pussy? I have a hard time believing that. Dude, are you crazy? Not Robin was in the corner watching Batman Fuckers.

Urkel gets pussy. Come on. Urkel. Yes. If you're on TV, that's a wrap, dude. It's a wrap. He probably got so much pussy, he's still catching his breath. He'll come back on TV in another year or so.

He's like, I'm not ready. I'm not ready to come back. I'm just recovering. Dude, have you seen that? Get my electrolytes in order. Corey Feldman. Dude, Corey Feldman put out a... He made an appearance on some talk show with his band and their own girls in angel suits.

Have you seen that? It's a nightmare. It's a fucking nightmare. Oh, my God. I saw that today. It was incredible. It was incredible. It was amazing. He was at a minor league

baseball game doing the same shit and there were seven people. Yeah, that's what we were looking at, right? There was that band. Holy shit. It's Corey Feldman's Angels.

How could it be worse? It's hysterical. It was on Today Show. Please show us. It was on Today Show. They put them on here I think to fuck with them. This is it.

This is it. The Today Show put people on to clown them. Look at this band. He got trolled. It's like his dance to fuck with them. This is it. This is it. The Today Show done put people on to clown them. Look at this band. He got a troll in. It's like his dance to start his performance. Oh, my God. That is sick.

Can you play it up there? This is viral, right? So if you play it up there, no one's looking at it, right? No one will see it. You can't play this sound? Just give us a little something, something. Hey, for sure make Lost Boys remake and quit doing this grab ass with these angels. Listen, do you think it's up to him?

It's not up to him. He could, well, yeah, it's probably not up to him. Look at this. He thinks it's up to him. It's a crazy promo. Look at this. Michael Bisping versus Dan Henderson for the UFC Middleweight Championship. Holy fuck.

This is crazy. It's fucking insane. That's going to be a wild ass fucking fight in Manchester because those Brits are going to go bananas. Bisping's never lost there. And also, you got a four-man tournament of just the fucking who's who monsters fucking waiting in the wings

with Jacare, Rockhold, and Melbourne. How about Yoel Romero versus Chris Weidman? What do you mean a tournament? They're doing like a one-night tournament? No, I just call it a tournament. But whoever wins that is fucking... You can't say tournament when you're next to Joe Schilling. I get excited when I hear this.

I'm like, they should fucking do that tournament that night. Kickboxing, live. Cancel the main event, just do the one night tournament. Real tournament. I'm talking UFC tournament, where I make them up in my mind. Did you see Jason Willis and Simon Marcus the other night? I did. Crazy, right? Yeah. Crazy. It was weird how

first of all, not weird that Willness knocked him out because he could knock anybody out, but weird that Simon, at the end of that round when he was letting him punch him, was that odd to you? Yeah. I mean, kind of. I think Simon and his coach had a falling out recently, and I think that it might have something to do with him losing. Oh, yeah?

That's always true. He looks so good in that first round. Simon's always been that kind of, when you fight Simon, it's very ego-based. I don't know if ego-based is the right word. He's a tough guy. You know what I mean? Right.

So even in that fight, when Jason would do well against him with land shots, you would see Simon like, and then come back with this big thing. And I think that's what it was. I'm going to drop my hands and let this guy hit me. It also looked like he was slowing down a little bit. He looked a little tired, yeah. He's so jacked. He's so jacked for a fighter.

Especially for a kickboxer. How about that chick that fought Misha Tate? Amanda Nunes? No, no, not her, not her. Shit. Who fought Joanne Calderwood, the Brazilian that yoked Brazilian? Oh, yeah, yeah, Jessica Andrade. Holy shit. She's a beast.

She dropped down to 115. She's fighting at 135. She's too small. Because she's only like 5'3 or 5'2, I think. She might be 5'2. You know what? Pull that up because she might not even be 5'0. She might be like 5'0 tall. Little beast, though. She's so five two. She's very she might be you know what pull that up because she might not even be five She might be like five feet tall little beast though. She's so jacked how her back is just

Vanderlei how did that happen and with you side and I'll say son listen. It's natural. Okay. Some of my just Jack Oh, she Jamie natural. I don't know She's five three She might be lying. She looks like Sean. We're in a weird day and age where anybody that has muscle has to be douching. Yes. But it is... There are freaks, for sure.

It's weird to me when I see girls that are built like dudes. Yeah. I've never had that. Or dudes that are built like girls. I mean, if dudes... If chicks that are built like dudes are not on the juice, then who the fuck is? Show me the ones that are. Damn, they must be way bigger.

Hold on, though, because there's levels of testosterone naturally in some people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there are some girls that are just naturally jacked. And wouldn't you think most girls that sign up for fighting

are going to be... Can we see other pictures, Jamie? They tend to have more testosterone just naturally. I would assume. Maybe. Just from hanging out in all the gyms. Just from taking fighter loads

if you go down that road you're usually not going to win fucking Miss America unless you're Paige Van Atten from having sex

with fighters the hot loads coming in there might be some truth to that they're all on EPO and testing all kinds of crazy shit

how do they end up becoming wanting to be fighters they're at the gym all the time hanging out exactly and they're like

oh I've been here for three years. And I think I learned some shit. I think I know some shit. I can make some money too. They've shown about women is that women, when they are forced to be the breadwinner, when women, like when they become single or they have to take care of their kids, they have to work, their testosterone ramps up.

It actually changes. When they're forced into a position where they have to earn their money out there in the competitive world, they actually develop more testosterone. Don't ask me where I got this. Ask me in Sight My Sources. Maybe it's because she's short. She's jacked. There's no doubt about it. Look at Liz Carmouche. She's jacked too. She missed no days doing curls. Zero. She's a tank. She just got... She has a new fight, too. Yeah, right?

Did they announce that? Yeah, they did. I forget who. Who is she fighting? I forget. Yeah, I don't care. Hey, I don't give a fuck. Hey, how about Badahari versus fucking Rico Verhoeven?

December 10th. We got a real expert here. Oh, man. Badahari, I'll always be a fan, but I think timing-wise, I think that Rico's going to beat him probably. I like that they gave Badr a long time to train. Yeah. I mean, we're here in September, and he's been training hard since August.

Yeah. He's put all these videos on Instagram marking the days. Is he jacked? Yeah. What? Of course he's jacked. What? I mean, they're like, they got, he's got September, October, November, and December.

Rico Verhoeven is fucking huge. Jacked. You meet that guy, like, in person, you're just like, fuck. Did you see him beat the fuck the other night on that Silva guy? Yeah. God. Anderson Brayson. Anderson Brayson.

Yeah, he beat the fuck out of him. That guy's not that big, though. I mean, he's big. He's not big enough. He's not, like, shockingly huge, like, fucking. Anderson Brice. Anderson Brice. Yeah, he beat the fuck out of them. That guy's not that big, though. I mean, he's big. He's not big enough. He's not, like, shockingly huge, like, fucking. No, no. Rico literally just toyed with him. Rico's huge.

But he also has sick cardio. Yeah. He's a sick athlete, too. He's a great athlete. Shredded, too. He was part of Tyson Fury's sparring for his fights. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. Which is genius. He did that a couple years ago. That is super genius. Powerful Bruce Buffer in every show. That motherfucker travels. That motherfucker, they go, hey, you sure you don't want a break?

Nah, I'll go to every show. Yeah, he does every fucking show. Now he's doing his podcast. I cut his podcast the other day. It was pretty good. That motherfucker blew his knee out, too. He blew his knee out in a karaoke contest. Missed three days. Fucking came back in a white tuxedo. I talked to him about that. That motherfucker blew his knee out, too. Yeah, he blew his knee out in a karaoke contest. Missed three days. Fucking came back in a white tuxedo.

I talked to him about that. In a tan. I told him to get the surgery. He's like, Joe, I think I'm not going to get the surgery. I go, why? He goes, I don't want to take the time off work. I'm like, are you fucking out of your mind? I go, get your knee fixed.

No, he's gangster, man. In that world, man, you got to hustle. That world. It's like being a quarterback in the NFL. Tom Brady, you slip up. There's someone behind you. You're going to get on that mic and come up with something instead of this time. Who's the guy behind Bruce Buffer?

There's nobody behind Bruce Buffer. There's someone waiting in the fucking wings. Who's the guy biting at his heels to scream fucking let's get it on. Probably some adopted brother they don't know about. If some dude comes in and tries to do Bruce Buffer while Bruce Buffer's gone, he'll be booed out of the fucking arena. I think he'd be surprised. He's going to have to do his own shit. I think he'd be surprised.

Are you crazy? Because there's Bruce Buffer and there's Michael Buffer. So let's get ready to rumble. Right? And it's time. Then you get some new dude in there who just fucking remixes it. Yeah, but that's not going to happen because we would know who that guy is. It's a black dude.

He would already be doing it somewhere. Comes in beatboxing. It's a black dude, for sure. Beatboxing is not going to work in the Midwest. I disagree. Nobody could do Bruce Buffer. Nobody. Nobody. He's the best. Oh, I'm not saying they are. They're going to do their own shit and flip the script. That's what Bruce is worried about and right now you're fucking with him.

That's why I haven't taken any days off. He's never taken a day off. No, thanks a lot. You're crazy if some young kid's not just thinking about it. These guys are going off here. We're talking shit, and Evan Dunham just landed a beautiful combination. It's hard not to root for Evan Dunham. He's been doing it for so long. He has, man.

It's a tough fucking game. Ooh, beautiful shot. That's great timing. Very good timing. I don't know anything about his opponent. Is he still training out of Vegas? He was with Extreme Couture for a long time, right? He was with Ray.

Yeah. Did you see him? I don't know. I don't know where he's at now. He's got his own school now. Did Ray stop training, guys, once he signed up to do the World Series of Fighting thing? No, he was there the other day with Brad Tavares. Brad Tavares, who's been one of his students forever.

For a while. Brad looked real good, man. Real sharp. He had a big winning streak and then fell off a little bit, but he's back now, right? Well, he fought Yoel Romero, son. That'll do it. That'll fuck your whole schedule up.

That'll make you realize. That'll fuck your life up. There's some people that can just move different than you can. We're built different. And you're a lot older, sir. He's a freak. So it's Yoel and Weidman and then Jacare. Look at this.

Look at Japanese necktie right there. Look at that. The Japanese necktie. He's Japanese necktie. Oh, he got out. Beautiful escape. You see how he freed his leg? Yeah.

That's what it was all about right there. Yeah. Is getting that leg free. And he pulled it off. He was in deep shit. Deep shit. That was one of the first Japanese neckties ever in the UFC. And he pulled it off. He was in deep shit. That was one of the first Japanese neckties ever in the UFC. Yeah, it was perfect.

That's what I meant by tournament, Joe. You know what I'm saying? Like a real tournament. You know what I'm saying? Joe and Joe. Joe squared. You know what I'm saying? It's not a real tournament, but in my mind, I was like,

we got ourselves a middleweight tournament. Well, Jacare versus Luke Rockhold, too, is very interesting. Especially because Luke's been getting all that model pussy he might be exhausted that's a he's in that demi lovato new york model that shit will fuck your life up son yeah or or take your next level i just i'm shocked that uh that he's not fighting weidman again i felt like that would be the fight to make. Me too. The fight to make would be Weidman versus Rockhold 2, not Jacare versus Weidman. What do you do with Jacare and Romero? They already fought.

One more time. We had a little problem with the drug test last time, boys. We're going to run it all back. Run it back. Let's see what happens when you're not on the hap-a-song. Let's run this shit back. You both got to be clean. I like Weidman versus Romero.

I like Weidman in there. I see. I was under the impression that Jacare won that fight for some strange reason. I did too. I guess Romero won a decision, but then it turned out

that he tested positive for some peptide or something like that, and they found the supplement that he said he took. They tested it. It was positive, so he gets a shorter break.

Check this out, man. There's plenty of time left, and he's on his back. And tested it. It was positive. So he gets a shorter break. Check this out, man. There's plenty of time left, and he's on his back. And Denham is the finisher. We still don't have any info on John, right? So this is the spot where Kenny Robertson caught that knee bar. It's right here. Very similar, yes. Right here.

And you do it with the head as well, right? So the guy can't lean back. To be honest with you, I don't know. Oh, he's got the best one right. He got the choke. It should be over. We're talking about all this jiu-jitsu. There you go. you, I don't. Oh, he's got the best one right. He got the choke. It should be over. We're talking about all this jiu-jitsu. There you go.

Ba-ba-boom. Oh, man. Oh, he is squirming. Oh, it's over, son. It's over. Go ahead and just touch that elbow for me. Go ahead and touch that elbow for me. Is he going to gut it out?

Oh, he's gutting it out. Oh, it's getting tighter, son. Yeah. Oh, it's over. Oh, now it's over. Go to sleep, sweet prince. Go to sleep. No, no, no.

Oh, shit. Body lock. Body triangle. Oh, he's out. He got out of it. Motherf prince. Go to sleep. No, no, no. Oh, shit. Body lock. Body triangle. Oh, he's out. He got out of it. Motherfucker. Shit. Amazing.

Amazing. Brilliant defense. So do you go for it again 58 seconds ago? 100%. Yeah, you go for it again. He might go for an armbar right here. Yeah, I haven't done him. Looking good.

He's been fighting forever. So this is a position. Look, he's looking for an armbar. Look at that. Look at that. He's ready for it. Look at this. He's been fighting forever. So this is a position. Look, he's looking for an arm bar. Look at that. Look at that. He's ready for it. Look at this. He's going for it.

Shift to the hips. There he goes. Right back to the... Wow. Yeah, he's attacking. Yeah. 30 seconds. Not much time left.

It's so rare that you see someone hit that arm bar from the back when they're going for the choke Or even take him to the truck and hit him with the calf slicer Or a twister Oh, he's going to try to pin that arm Oh, there he goes Oh, lost it Oh, shit Didn't get the hips up in time

Trying to pin that arm There's a lot of grease going on there In a Gracie style Yeah Look at that Oh, one more time Flatten him out Poundage

Go for poundage Oh, he got half guard back How about fucking Oh, almost fell off. Flatten him out. Poundage. Go for poundage. Oh, he got half guard back. How about fucking... Oh, almost fell on him. That was a nasty elbow from the bottom. Dude, how about Stipe's ground and pound on Overeem? Dude, Overeem... I've been thinking about that this whole time.

Like, how fucking hard did he hit him with those three shots? Perfect shots, too. Fucking perfect. Perfect placement. When that guy was stacking him earlier, and he kept fucking hitting the guy in the head, and we're just talking about the triangle. I'm like, he has some of those fucking steep-A shots. But also, Overeem's not exactly, you know.

His motherboard message board has been hit a bunch of times. Yeah, well, that's why after the fight I said I don't want to do interviews with fighters after they got knocked out again. I appreciate that. We should never do that. We all appreciate that. When he said that, when he said that the guy tapped. As I was watching it, I was like, oh, don't fucking talk. When he said the guy tapped, I was like, fuck, imagine if he tapped.

Like, are we going to see a tap? Like, I had no idea. You don't know if you missed something during the actual calling of a fight because it's happening live and it's so chaotic. And it's right after Alistair dropped him. Then he went for the guillotine. Then all of a sudden they're on their feet again. It happened so fast.

When he said it, he was so adamant. That's got knocked out. I know. What about the truck in the back, though, Joe? Aren't they going, Joe, he didn't tap? Do you really want to show this? No, they don't know. They don't know.

They watched the fight live. They watched the fight live. You want to find out. You want to find out whether he tapped. Maybe he tapped. Maybe he didn't. You find out. It's entertaining.

It's totally possible that if he did tap, that someone saw it in the truck, they would have said it. But they didn't say it. But they're like, we'll play it for you. And I said, okay, we're going to play it. And so they had it queued up. They played it. And then he was still insistent. And I'm like, okay, well, maybe it's the other hand.

But I was thinking, man, this does not look good. No. Made him look worse. But it has to be solved. It has to be resolved. I agree. You know, when a guy says the guy tapped, you have to show it. Can't And then, like, but I get. Made him look worse. But it has to be solved. It has to be resolved. You know, when a guy says the guy tapped, you have to show it. Can't have a world champion. Yeah.

It's part of the game. Let's check it out. You have to show it. Yeah, I thought you hit really well. You have to show it. That was the right thing to do. But I wish we didn't interview him at all. I wish, you know, I think the guy has to have a chance to.

He was completely unconscious. And it took him a while to get back up to his feet. And to have a conversation with him about strategy about where it went wrong it's insane it's crazy it doesn't make any sense he's never no other sport does that but he doesn't have the leg at all right but but like i gotta switch it to a darts this is serious shit and if it's not a knockout a guy get loses and gets submitted or whatever this sucks i wish i would have won yeah even in other sports. What are we going to say to you? This sucks. I wish I would have won.

Yeah, even in other sports. Like the NFL, if a guy has a concussion, he's not doing interviews, man. He's not right in the head. If a guy breaks his leg or tears a knee, they're not interviewing him. Because what the fuck is he going to say? You know what kind of fucking frame of mind that guy's in? It's nuts. So you're 100% right, Joe.

I love that. Well, you know, it's something I had suggested a long time ago back when we interviewed Mirko Krokop after Gonzaga knocked him out. I was looking in his eyes. That night you guys interviewed him? Yeah. What the fuck? I interviewed him right after the fight. And I was like, we can't do that anymore.

And I said it to him and we just kept doing it. What if it's good for ratings? Like if they get knocked out, guaranteed interview. It can't be good, though. I'm not doing it anymore. I mean, they don't even show them on the ground anymore.

They pan away on the camera. Did they tell you yes or no, Joe? I don't care. I'm not doing it anymore. You're gonna do it. I'm not doing it. Sir, look at me.

When guys get, shut the fuck up. You're gonna fuck up. If guys get knocked the fuck out. You don't wanna talk to them? If guys get knocked the fuck out, if someone really wants to talk to them,

they're gonna have to talk to them. I'm not talking to anybody anymore. Bruce Buffer's going to jump in that bitch. How do you feel? Bruce will do a great job. Well, it's time. Joe, I'll take it from here. It's time for me to interview you.

Joe, I'll take it from here. Thank you, sir. I know you hate this part. I got a raise. I'm doing it out of respect for the game. Yeah, I don't think we need to. I think the UFC agrees. It's better for the game. Yeah, I don't think we need to, and I think the UFC agrees. It's better for the sport. What made Alistair look bad, and I think if you gave him a few hours or even a day to

talk about it, he probably would realize that that never happened, and it was just his brain was scrambled. Well, even Stipe, when you're talking to him, he's like, yeah, he hit me with a kick. No, sir, that was a punch. Well, he said the guy kicks hard. He said he kicks hard. It didn't make any sense. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. He did get like, yeah, he hit me with a kick. No, sir, that was a punch. Well, he said the guy kicks hard. He said he gets kicked hard. It didn't make any sense. I mean, what the fuck are you talking about?

He did get kicked hard in the body. Yeah, he did. And, I mean, he could have been mentioning that, but he probably didn't realize what knocked him down. He was concussed, too. Yeah, most likely. Oh, yeah. Oh, sir?

Yes. Yeah, the way he got dropped. You don't get, yeah, flatline dropped. And he got staggered more than once. He got staggered twice, at least twice in that first round. Dude, so much pressure on CBA hometown. I was so happy for him, man. Dude, you ain't heard roars like the Cleveland crowd for Stipe.

It's like Dublin for Connor. It's crazy. Cleveland is maybe a little more. Finally, Cleveland. Bring it back. It's not quite like Dublin. But they love him, man. And Cleveland is a badass town, man.

I had heard that it was experiencing this resurgence. It's a fun town. Those people were fun. Because of LeBron and Ohio State. I've always been a Browns fan. That's terrible. I'm not really into football that much anymore, but I did watch last week's Browns game

on Fast Forward on DVR. I didn't even watch their defense. I just fast forward to their offense, and they played like shit, and usually you feel like garbage after spending three hours watching football, and your team scores one touchdown. You're like, I fucking wasted my whole day

sat through all these fucking commercials for this bullshit-ass performance. You feel like shit, but when you fast forwardforward through it all and you realize oh I wouldn't have wasted my time I went through the whole game in 20 minutes I felt great they look like shit you're not how you watch it three hours for me if I would have just sat through this shit, it's beautiful. You didn't want to do that back in the day because there's too many spoilers.

Everybody's watching TV and there's just spoilers everywhere. But now you're like, everyone's like in their own little compartment on the internet. I'm like, I never know the goddamn scores. So you can DVR a game. That's what I'm going to do tomorrow. I'm not going to spend a kill a Sunday watching football and wasting my time. I am with my son. I force him to watch it at six months old. I'm going to watch it at two in the morning on Fast Forward.

It's the greatest. Well, now we know that. You know, they might have done it or they're doing it soon. Is Canelo Smith tonight? Yes, sir, it is. And it's a good fucking fight, if you know about the Smith family. I thought maybe that would be on. Four brothers.

I think it's on right now. Two of them are going to be world champions. All four pro boxers. It's nuts, man. That's a that would be on. Four brothers. I think it's going right now. Two of them are going to be world champions. All four pro boxers. It's nuts, man. That's a tough fight for Canelo, too. That Smith is a fucking monster, man. Is he? I didn't really know anything about him.

He's tough, tough. Dude, after that Kell Brook fight, I want to see Canelo versus him. Triple G. Yeah, Gennady Golovkin and Canelo would be the shoot. Dude, how about Kovalev versus fucking Andre Ward in November? That's amazing. We should do a fight campaign for that. Okay, I'm in.

Yes! If I'm here. If I'm not doing something better. Who's celebrating online? If I'm not doing something more important. People are crumped for that. We should do a fight campaign for Turkish oil wrestling. We should.

We've got to find out when the date is, like their world championships. Get Callum in here and get real good. Oh, dude, Callan, take over. That shit is only on YouTube. You have to go there live and bring your phone. Can you imagine the comedy? The Callan would come out of Callan's mouth. He would be crushing it.

He probably has a Turkish accent on deck. He's probably done it before and shit. We should. They've got to have world championships. There's got to be some Hickson of Turkish oil wrestling. Yeah. He's too busy sucking dicks. It's like, instead of getting drunk and gambling, this guy just blows guys.

He sucks too many dicks and he has to take time off. And that's when he starts losing. Too many dicks. So he's talking in interviews how he cut the dick out. He's like, no more dicks. I haven't had any dick in training camp, and I feel really good. I dig one dick on Sunday. That's it.

Cheat day. Cheat day. Cheat day. Cheat day. Other than that, one cheat day sucks dick. Dude, you can't wait until Sunday. It just sucks dick. It's like, when does Sunday count?

He's waiting. Midnight. On this fight, I thought that was the third round. Sunday night. That's how much I'm paying attention. I thought that was the third round. I thought that was the end of the fight. Evan Dunham'm not paying attention. I thought that was the third round. I thought that was the end of the fight. Evan Dunham still going strong.

I know. They raised their hands after that round like it was over. And I thought, damn, that was quick. We're not paying attention. Yeah. That's one of the craziest things about kickboxing is that when you go to the third round in those tournaments, if it's a draw, they'd make you guys fight a fourth round. What the fuck is that when you go to the third round in those tournaments if it's a draw they'd make you guys fight a fourth round what the fuck is that feeling like it's it's it sucks i'm not gonna lie

it sucks because going into that third round you're like fuck this is it all or nothing fuck motherfucker how to do this and then you're like you go back and look at your coach and like he's gonna be the next round you're like fuck no like with that simon fight i remember like thinking i don't want to i don't fucking want to and we had to go another round and it ended up working out great for me

but I was not happy about it you guys should if you guys both agree to flip a coin at the end it's like do you want to fight do you want to fight okay let's just flip a coin

I'm sure he felt the same way too he didn't want to go he didn't want to do it either well he kept spitting his mouthpiece out I think his nose was shattered or broken

so he couldn't close his mouth because he couldn't breathe so you get all this blood and shit and you're like fuck I can't breathe and then his mouthpiece out i think his nose was shattered or broken so he couldn't close his mouth because he couldn't breathe you know so you get all this blood and shit and you're like fuck i can't breathe and then his mouthpiece kept coming out hey so uh which happens a lot actually when you see guys on their noses like bleeding like crazy is usually when you'll see the mouthpiece start falling out because he just can't breathe brendan i got a question real quick well hold on real quick our boy uh callan he's doing shows in new york and there's an explosion half a mile from him, so his show got canceled. What?

Yeah, he just texted me. He's like, hey, brother, I'm sure you saw the news. My show got canceled because there's an explosion in New York. What? What's he talking about? Terrorist shit? Hillary falls flag right there. That's not that big of a deal, quote, unquote, they're saying online right now.

Their body double. Hold on, let him talk. She died on the 11th. Guys, let him talk. 25, 26 people have been injured, no deaths. There's a second device. It's an explosion. They're not calling it a bomb. They're not saying terrorism. Nothing crazy like that right now.

Oh, come on. Callum was, he said, half a blocker. He says half a blocker, half a mile in one. So I don't know, but he said his show's canceled and it was nuts. Alex Jones said it. He goes, there's going to be a false flag event. Watch Hillary's on her,

on, apparently, she's not looking too good, Hillary. She's super sick. That's what people are saying. Well, like September 11th,

she left the event early and like passed out. Yeah, she's fainting. She's collapsed and fainting and shit. She's having coffee fits. She's got like a fucking

shit bag in her pants. Manhattan explosion. Alex Jones had some physician on and he said, she's collapsed and fainted she's got like a fucking shit bag in her manhattan explosion alex jones had some physician on and he said she's showing signs of some kind of brain tumor or something but alex jones is so far like he used to come across like he had like good shit but he was just kind of crazy and now he's like so far the other way that i just can't take him seriously like even if his shit is true like he just like, oh, the globalists, the elites. I'm not giving you my gun, mother. You just get so far gone.

It says the explosion wasn't terrorism, but it was done intentionally. So that means someone from here would do it. But isn't terrorism terrorism? Maybe someone just wanted to get rid of their building. It's got a shitty building. He was calling it. Thank God, Kellen's all right. He said, you know what?

With all this Hillary shit going on, they're panicking. They don't know if they're going to stick Bernie Sanders in or they're going to put Biden in or they're going to suspend the election,

keep Obama in longer. They're about to make a big ass decision right now. Hillary apparently is You're so excited. I'm just happy I was waiting for this to happen.

I got a text from Callan that said that explosion next door is a cold fuck. That's just what I hear. I don't know shit. That's just what I hear. Who knows? But Callan's said that explosion next door is a cold fucking thing. That's just what I hear. I don't know shit. That's just what I hear. Who knows? But Callan's okay.

This could all be a trick. Well, I mean, whenever you're dealing with someone like a Hillary Clinton and she's super sick and you're leading up to the election and she just doesn't look healthy. She's fainting and stuff. No, she's old, man. She's old and she's of poor health and she had a serious conting and stuff. No, she's old, man. She's old, and she's of poor health, and she had a serious concussion a few years back. Concussion? Real bad.

From what? She fainted, fell down, and hit her head. Have you seen that? And apparently had a brain aneurysm, and was bleeding internally. That's how, I'm not saying it had anything to do with Parkinson's or these fainting spells that she has. Usually when you have this disease,

whatever it is, they usually die from the falls. They usually die and they just crack their head on the cement and that's what they die from. Alex Jones had, he's saying, according to his physicians, he's saying that he's got a connection in the Secret

Service. It's a fucking scrap We're watching a crazy fucking crap shit about Hillary Clinton The world here that's what we're talking about when I thought about just some Son look at One oh, he's uh, he's on zombie mode. Oh, shit. He's going for it, though. Karate Kid zombie mode.

Oh! Armbar, and then it's over. Oh, sick! Get it, son! Oh, fuck! The bell? It's crazy. God bless you, Evan Dunham.

Can you imagine if you would have hit that armbar? Dude, how nice was Verdum's flying fucking sidekick? I loved it. I fucking loved it. And he kept doing the fucking cartwheel clicks. Guys, we can't talk over each other. It's horrible to listen to. So let's regulate them.

Tell them. We got to definitely not do that. But yeah, it was a crazy kick. He's done it before, though. He did it when he fought Overeem in Pride. People forget. It landed him? He did it before, yeah.

Oh, shit. Really? Yeah. Wow, that's interesting. That's like It landed him? He did it before, yeah. Oh, shit. Really? Yeah. Wow, that's interesting. That's like a Chinese connection. A little fact for you guys. He's done it before. Jumping fucking sidekick.

That is nuts. He jump kicked fucking Overham in Pride and ran straight at his ass. The gif is so good. It's like just so fucking good. Dude, it fucking wobbled Travis Brown, too. Yeah. He's like, oh, shit.

Dude, he caught him on the jaw. He throws a lot of wheel kicks, man. I like him a lot. Dude, how about Verdum said, check this out, flying fucking sidekick

on your coach. This is Sparta. Front kick. Get your bullshit gym out of here. Front kick. That was real weird after the fight.

Edmund was screaming at him. I'm like, what do you think is going to happen here? I think watching it, I thought that he thought that when he was fucking, I think Edmund at some point thought that Travis actually won that fight

and that he got robbed in a decision or something. And that's why they were booing? That's what I thought. No, I think there's a lot of pressure on Edmund. And he saw him doing this shit and was like, oh, come on over here. I think there's a lot of pressure on Edmund because, you know, it's like, fuck, man, you've got to win a fight.

Travis moved his whole camp there. He's looked like pure caca. There's a lot right in this fight he just lost the cane so if you hear him in the corners there's desperation he's losing his voice and then when that shit happens when your fighter fights like that I think he was just so furious and he's an emotional guy but you're talking the number one heavyweight in the world he's gonna twist your fucking face off when you talk to him like that. And he's Brazilian. In Brazil, they'll just fucking smack you for no reason.

Verdum's a nice guy, too. Verdum's a fucking grand human being. One of the nice guys in the world. You're lucky that was an ovary or someone like that. Yeah, it was all very weird. It was very weird because I didn't see it until afterwards. I was climbing into the cage to do the post-fight interviews when he kicked him. So I didn't see him kick him, but all of a sudden, Edmund went flying, a bunch of people in there, and Rafael Cordero was trying to kick Edmund's ass.

Rafael Cordero was fucking furious, and Edmund was screaming at Rafael Cordero, and Rafael Cordero was ready to throw. So they cut all that off. He was really considering what he should or shouldn't do at that moment. You don't want that. That motherfucker is bad. don't want that motherfucker. He was a bad motherfucker. And Rafael Cordeiro was right in front of him considering what he should or shouldn't do. And they were trying to move Edmund away from him.

But he had said some nasty shit. I don't know who said what or what, but there was a lot of extremities. Did you see Dana? We didn't see any of that on TV. Dana came in and was like, God, come on. We got CM Punk before this. Now we got this bullshit. You got a Brazilian and an Armenian.

Brazilians and Armenian have one thing in common. They don't take any shit on the street. You say anything to an Armenian on the street, you're going to get fucked up. Armenian.

Same thing. Armenian. Isn't that right? Armenian. Armenian. Armenian. Armenian. Armenian.

Yeah, but I'm saying... Potato, potato. God, Italians, Italian, whatever. Italians. I have Armenian students. They don Armenian. Armenian. Yeah, but I'm saying... God, Italians, Italian, whatever. Italians. I have Armenian students. They don't say shit. They're Armanian. Armanis.

Like in a suit? But the difference is one of them's ranked number one in the world and will rip your fucking dick off and the other guy's just a guy. Both races are down to fight at any time. That's what I'm saying. But one can fight better than the other. That's where you got to know your role. I don't know.

That's up. I don't do it. Not one race. Edmonds was a really good kickboxer have you ever heard of carndar or bedian sir are you being serious yeah he was at one point i mean what'd you say edmund was a legit kickboxer back in the day compared to i mean not to fucking verdum right yeah he's a he's a piece of corn in the shit compared to verdum verdum's so big too he's such a giant and He's top three

best heavyweights of all time. He just happens to be one of the greatest guys in the world. You know what I'm saying? He's a really good dude. He should have kept his mouth shut. Which one? Edmund. Who knows what was said? You can't say that unless you know what was said. Well, I know what you shouldn't

do is approach a fighter and try and fight him as a coach. We know that. I don't give a fuck what he said to you. Yeah, super controversial move. I think that he just was watching, and he was pissed off his guy lost, and then fucking Verdum starts doing this shit, and he was like, hey, motherfucker, don't do that shit. And then Verdum was like, who are you talking to? That's exactly what happened right there.

He went back and forth. He was like, you don't fucking talk to me. Well, Verdum said the reason why he front kicked him, he goes, because I could tell in his eyes he was going to throw a punch at me. He goes, I could have done something a lot worse, which he's right. Did Verdum flip off the audience? No, hell no. He was crying because they were booing him.

And then he was doing thumbs down. They weren't booing the fact that he won. They were booing that the fight was lackluster. Correct. Yeah. Right. It was interesting. And he wasn't booing that like, oh, fuck you.

The crowd was right. The fight like oh Fuck you It was like The crowd was right The fight was like Verdum was like We just fought our fucking asses off We're doing some shit They're in the fucking cage Throwing down

So no matter how it goes down The audience should never Fucking boo Hold on You gotta take this Into consideration The audience is there It's in Cleveland

Stipe beat Verdum For the belt They all know that They're there for Stipe They know that Verdum Was the guy Stipe Beat for the belt So they're beat Verdum for the belt. They all know that. They're there for Stipe. They know that Verdum was the guy Stipe beat for the belt. So they're against Verdum anyway. He's like the invading

team. Okay, I get it. You're right. It wasn't a good fight, but I was amazed that Travis was able to recover when Fabrizio got his back. That I was like, wow. That dude's got heart. He's got some very good defense, too.

Because Fabricio had him down, had him hurt, then had him down, and then took his back. And I was shocked that he didn't finish him. I'm like, that's pretty impressive. Especially considering that Travis had a broken finger. His finger's fucked up. You see the pictures of it? I did see the pictures. What's more impressive, though, is for Doom fighting and throwing a spinning or kicks and the fucking flying kick with a broken foot. You know he went into the pictures. What's more impressive, though, is Verdum fighting and throwing a spinning kick

and the fucking flying kick with a broken foot. You know he went into the fight with a broken foot. Which foot? I'm not sure. That is impressive, though. That is impressive. How impressive is that? I wonder if it was the broken one he kicked him with.

That would be ridiculous. How gangster is that? I thought that was like a mental warfare thing that I thought was kind of awesome. I don't know the situation, but say Verdum wasn't in the best shape and needed to be a slower paced fight. And you come out and you do that flying fucking push kick. With a fractured foot, look at that. And then all of a sudden you're doing fucking cartwheel kicks because you don't give a fuck if he gets on top of you when you're on the ground. Wow.

And then next thing you know it's a slow paced fight and you get to win. I thought it was cool. That fight's tough, man, because both guys are under so much pressure because if verdum loses he goes the back of the line he's older this is his fucking second time in the fc yeah trash brown he's one out of his last five he admin all this pressure so there's so there's just high tension man yeah very high tension there was a lot going on how old is verdumumna? He's like 40. 39? Yeah. Yeah, he's 39. You know, it's interesting because the Alistair fight,

like the way Alistair was avoiding exchanges and getting out of the way, it's so, like you're watching a totally different fighter now. It's so interesting. Like, you remember his fight with Todd Duffy when he was the destroyer? And he's just... He's not in Japan. He's not in Japan. Yeah. I know, exactly.

And then with Brock, same thing, pre-Usada. I mean, that Alistair had such a different style. Now he's moving around a lot. He's got his hands out. He's running away from exchanges and picking his spots and trying to fight at a really reserved pace. He's trying to preserve his energy and pace himself. But what technique, and maybe you would know better, Joe, but what technique do they ever teach in any martial art where you run like that?

I don't know. It's called get the fuck away from Steve Bang. It's weird, right? There was a lot of talk about it after Conor did it to Nate, negative, positive, whatever. You're talking about fatigue and stuff like that. But that was exactly what it looked exactly like that. But Connor did it later in the rounds.

When you're doing the first round, when you're not tired, that's just, I mean, that's your straight technique, son. Well, I think if we do it on a football field, like Joe wants, you're going to have those opportunities. People are going to be like, hey, man, this is too close. I need to fucking run away from this brother. Yeah, Brent and Sean Metamorris running. And get their shit together.

Give me a football field, I'm out. Time to run or get down. Get down! Remember when Max Holloway and Ricardo Llamas just looked at each other and pointed at the ground and said, let's do this. And they just swung for the last 10 seconds of the fight. There's going to be guys that do that too.

And there's going to be guys that ouster it. God bless them. Have you ever seen ouistair like that never not alistair never seen it but you also have a straight lefty dropped him it was beautiful though it was amazing and it was off of that runaway the other thing that i was thinking is like and even in nate when nate and connor when it happened when you do that like runaway thing you're getting a reset and then like for example with, with Nate. Nate's been getting kicked in the leg a lot. You're walking around the fucking ring.

He runs away. You're walking to him, walking to him. He's set now, and he's waiting for you. As soon as you come in a distance, that guy gets, like, the jump on you. Right. You know what I mean? Which is... It's weird.

It's a thing. Well, it's a thing. Well, you don't have to move forward. Yeah. You know, you don't have to advance. You can just wait for him. That would be kind of interesting if he just stood there as the guy runs away. I've never seen what Overeem's doing here, ever.

Well, you know what, man? He got tagged a couple times, and I think he also realizes that Stipe is a fucking dangerous guy. And at this stage of his life, he's not that good at taking a shot. He's just not. And then what scenario would have been better for him to do in that moment than to do that? That was the fucking right thing to do. That's self-defense right there. You're in a bad position. You're like, oh, fuck, I gotta get

back to where I'm set. I'm gonna reset this thing. Then why don't more guys run? If that's the best form of technique... If it's a five-round fight for heavyweight, you're gonna... I don't think it's the best. I mean, but if that's what he had at that moment, you know, I mean, it's not the best.

There's guys that fight maybe not in that division, but there's guys that fight, like, maybe not in that division, but there's guys that fight. Okay, here's a perfect example. Kane. Kane would never do that. Never see that. You're never going to see that ever. It's not even in their brain to run.

They don't have that mechanism. Kane's going to turn, plant himself, fire back, try to take you down, try to crack on you, whatever it is. You know, and probably Verdum is not going to run like that either. Verdum's going to look for the clinch or he's going to try to take you down as you move in like that. Name another heavyweight that'd run like that. Nobody. Nobody currently. Nobody currently.

And there won't be a trend of it, I would guarantee that. No, I think that was a high pressure situation and he thought that was his best move at the time. But if you looked at what he did with Junior Dos Santos, he did a less extreme version of that. He did a lot of moving away, but he landed hard shots and then ultimately knocked Junior out So everybody forgave him for it, correct? But it's that kind of movement moving away from the conflict and picking a steepest chance to win too is if you look at steep

A's wins he when he gets a guy against the cage he goes to work Yeah, so maybe he was like, you know what? I'm just gonna reset go the center keep going reset Because we know how good Stipe is with his game plan and backing me up to the cage. I don't know anything about his grappling. Tell me Stipe. I heard he's a really good wrestler recently. I didn't know that either. College? I heard he was a wrestler. Let's pull it up.

College wrestler at Cleveland State. So division one. Also a real good athlete in other sports. What about Jiu Jitsu? Well, baseball. He's a baseball player. Wanted to play professional baseball. His Jiu Jitsu is very good. What belt? Not offensively. What about jiu-jitsu? Well, baseball. He's a baseball player. Wanted to play professional baseball. His jiu-jitsu is very good. What belt? Not offensively. What's cool? Defensively. I don't think he's not high-level trained, but his defense

is amazing. He's like Rashad Evans when it comes to defense. Not really. No submission wins? No, no. Not a big submission. What about his striking specifically? Boxing. Golden Gloves champ from Cleveland. Very good technique. You see when he had Alistair against the ropes? Golden Gloves champ from Cleveland very good technique You see when he had a little bit college wrestler Division one college wrestler

College baseball player do you see when he had Alistair against the ropes or against the cage and just hit crisp combinations This fight is a mother fucker head like a pitbull you can take a shot This fight's going to be fun. I'm excited for this fight. It's going to be a cool fight. Yeah, it should be a good one. Yeah, the heavyweight division's in an unusual position right now. It's really interesting to see what happens.

Really interesting to see how well Kane's recovered from his surgery. Obviously, he looked like a monster again against Travis. That looked like the Kane of old, you know? Kane's steeped in the fight. It's the only fight. Yeah.

What do you guys think about Tony Ferguson versus Dos Anjos? That's a motherfucking fight. And it's in Mexico City, kids. God. We're going to be in Big Bear for four weeks. Yeah, he Instagrammed a picture from Big Bear. Is he at Tito's old joint? No, he's going to rent his his own house and me, Gio,

Chai, Compella, Boogie, we're all gonna go up there and rotate. That's a great fight, man. When Tito was in his prime, he bought Oscar De La Hoya's training camp up there. It's dope as fuck, man. I heard it's amazing. He had the cage set up there and he would do all his training. I think Tito said he still owns it. Does he?

I know he was on our show and I think he said he still owns it. Mosley has one too. He rented it out to Canelo. Now Canelo has a spot in San Diego. A lot of guys are talking about how being at altitude or being a big bear doesn't work as far as altitude wise, but guys will still do it to get away from the world and get focused on it. What do you mean by

it doesn't work certainly works there's like a lot of arguments about it's better to sleep low right or to train low

and then sleep high and then people go up there to Big Bear which if you're not there I guess the argument is if you're not there for a long enough period of time

that you're actually getting less out of your workouts because it's harder because you can't breathe and you get less reps which is the whole concept behind it

I do like the when you were asking what i do for cardio like i'll do uh i've been doing it for fucking years and years now probably since i really took off my career was a high altitude training with the i have like a machine that pumps nitrogen so you're actually getting less it simulates whatever altitude that you want and what do you do like a sprints on a treadmill i'll do like uh as soon as i sign the papers if i have six weeks eight weeks however long it is for the fight like i just start sleeping and using it when i sleep and then as i have my cardio gets good and i'm starting to feel confident in my cardio and i need to start working it and testing it then i'll start doing like uh tabata sprints with the fucking the mask at 10 000 feet on the treadmill

kirsten has me do it on like a treadmill a lot or not treadmill a rowing machine but then i'll even do pad work i do bag work i'll do all kinds of shit with that fucking thing you're not you're talking about a device or you're talking about that training mask thing the no fuck that mask not that i was gonna say i mean actually it's a hypoxico is the brand and it's this big machine word and it pumps nitrogen and so at the same you're taking the same breaths but like volume wise of those same breaths where i'm breathing oxygen now it would be 80 oxygen and 20 nitrogen which lowers the amount of oxygen you breathe and what that does is it tricks your it sends this makes your body go oh fuck i'm not getting enough air out of each breath. I need to be more whatever.

So your body will release red blood cells from your bone marrow, and that's how you increase your red blood cell count. Boom. That's interesting. Which is what they – it's like, yeah, it's blood doping. But it's on a way lower, I think, scale. It's a form of it, just legally. But my coach notices it right away when I started using it.

Like your lactic acid buildup and your cardio will increase every time you do it. And you do how many of those a week? Like when you're in peak training? When I'm like peaking? It depends on, like I said, every camp's different. But I'll try and at least twice, three times a week. But you're sleeping with it too. And then I'm sleeping in it at night, yeah.

A tent? Is it one of those tents? Well, I had the big tent and my chick didn't like it and the tent was like too big shit it was like too big because there's like a room in a room it gets hot and then it smells like you're sleeping in a fucking tent it smells like soup i had one myself mine was like i was like oh it smelled like soup yeah don't fart in that yeah no well it's a big ass like your whole night up it's a big ass tent it has like my fucking dressers and, it's a big-ass tent. It'll fuck your whole night up. It's a big-ass tent. It has my fucking dressers and it's a fucking room in a room.

So then I ended up getting a... A pod? No, I fucking made it. It's actually really... I wonder if I have a picture. You made it yourself? It's pretty impressive. The air that we breathe.

I got these plastic bins at Home Depot, the biggest plastic bin I could find. I cut one wall off of it. I'm not even kidding. You made your own hyperbolic chamber? I me drone thing in the back and then I got a sheet like a tarp and I hang it so it's inside of the Inside like when I lay in there's like a fucking plastic bent over my head damn you MacGyver There's a plastic tarp which lays over the sheets or whatever and those pumping the that's how you sleep. I love that word

That's so it definitely works, sir. That's so gangster. Oh, it definitely works, dude. That's so gangster. You MacGyver the hyperbolic chamber. Dude, I'm going to see if I find it on my phone. God bless you, man. You can't be paranoid

of close paces when you're in a spot like that. Your chick sleep with you too in there? That's the only way that she would do it because she didn't want the big ass tan anymore.

So then, now I have like, sometimes she'll get in there and be like, she didn't like it. And then it's really way too close. That's hilarious. Shit, she anymore. So then, now I have like, sometimes like she'll get in there and be like, she didn't like it. And then it's really way too close. That's hilarious. Shit you do.

But that, it does really increase your, like your cardio is way different. Have you slept, have you been in one of those Joe? No, no, I never slept in one of those.

I used to own one. Yeah, the soup thing's hilarious. What'd you own? The tan? They have one. Look at that. Hyperbolic or hyperbolic?

Hyperbaric. So it was less oxygen like when I was younger? Yes. Yeah, and it was one of those like pods and I'd sleep down there.olic? Hyperbaric. So it was less oxygen like when I was talking about. Yes. Yeah. And it was one of those like pods and I'd sleep down there. Well, hyperbaric. Yeah.

So I watched all these things. You see that one on the top left? It's like just over his head. Yeah. It looks like he bugs out. That's what I used to. Derek Brunson, Uriah Hall. This is going to be a quick one, gentlemen.

Brunson's trying to take Uriah Hall down. Fucking Pratty Joe making your own shit. That's insane. Yeah. Slaying those dogs. Aren't those hyperbaric chambers? Or hypo-baric or hyper-baric? They're two different things, right?

Yeah, one of them pumps tons of oxygen into you, which is supposed to be really good for knockout recovery and stuff like that. And then what I have is it decreases your oxygen. You're basically suffocating yourself

all night long. Which one were you saying, Joe? And then your body's like, oh, fuck, you need to be more red blood cells because you're dying. Which one of Shannon pumps the pure oxygen? That's the hyper. That's what I had. Is it Barrett?

Isn't it Barrett? That's what I had. I thought it was hyperbaric. I think it's hyperbaric. Hyperbaric, that's what I had. But it was soft, so I guess it wasn't working as well. So then I went to a guy in L.A. that had a hard one. It was like this thick glass.

Yeah. Well, I know Uriah Faber used that after the Aldo fight to repair his leg after he got leg kicked. Yeah. It was a brutal fight to watch. His leg swole up. Derek Brunson with a good knee to the body. I don't see this fight last long. Well, Brunson was able to stop the bum rush, which is big.

He got a lot of time, though. See that spinning kick? Powerful Jamaican shorts on your eye hole. It's not just spinning kick, man. It's his straight shots. He's so efficient with his movements when he's striking. He's tough to take down, man. He was with us at rain.

He's a fucking freak athlete. I think his distance is really hard to read to his movement patterns and the distance that your highest strike from is oh with the left brunson banks the damper shilling oh that is a wrap oh my goodness oh dance it dance it i'm not mad at that dance wow you're right just can't get on track. What do you think about that stoppage? I think that was a little... You know me, man.

Eddie needs to see that dance. What do you think I think? You think it was premature. You think it was way premature. Let's see the replay. It's Herb Dean again. I mean, Herb Dean is a bad motherfucker, dude. If Herb thought it was premature, he might have been...

Or if Herb thought it was time, he might have been able to see something. You know why? You know what kind of triggers a little bit? Is Uriah went for a single leg on Herb thought it was premature, he might have been. Or if Herb thought it was time, he might have been able to see something. You know what kind of triggers a little bit is Uriah went for a single leg on Herb Dean. That's usually a bad sign. He did after the fact? He sure did. It was after he stopped it, right? Yeah. He went for a single leg on Herb.

Hmm. We're supposed to put up a clock to sync this up. Do you have a clock that syncs this up, Jamie? I've been putting it up the whole time, yeah. Okay. We're supposed to put up a clock to sync this up. Do you have a clock that syncs this up Jamie? Okay So I was almost thinking about rewinding it, but that'll fuck up our clock right Brunson saying title shot You gotta relax show it. Yes. You see in title show. Yeah, you gotta relax. Let's check this out here Makes it good to Left hook beautiful. He's he's pounding them boom boom. He's pounding him. Boom, boom, boom.

He's not really doing much there. Did he get hit? He's lifting his arms up. Now watch this. Watch this. This is how you know he's fucked up. Watch him shoot this beautiful single leg unheard. Oh, what a left hook.

Boom, boom, boom. Right on the chin. Oh, my goodness. Right on the chin. Miss. Oh, his head's not moving. Look at this. I ain't hitting him.

No, no, no. You got to give a guy a chance to recover. Yeah, he wasn't even hitting him. That was a little premature. He was fucked up, though. I mean, he definitely got tagged. He was fucked up from getting dropped. I don't agree with that.

He was trying to move. You know what? Herb's a little off tonight. Can we all agree on that? We're all friends. We all love him. I don't know. He's definitely...

Every now and then, you know. I think this was off. Cut him some slack. This was off. He does such a great job. Yeah. Herb's having an off night. Everyone has an off night in the office sometimes.

I don't know, man. I mean, it's interesting because I would have liked to see Brunson actually finish it, finish it. I mean, I think maybe if you gave him more time, he would have been able to finish it conclusively, and we wouldn't be sitting here doing this. And it was still, because you don't want to take anything away from that left hook. That was beautiful. You know what? That was a little premature. I agree with that, Eve, this time. I think it was premature as well. That left hook was money. That was beautiful. You know what? That was a little premature.

I agree with that, Eve, this time. I think it was premature as well. The left hook was money. The other ones didn't get in there. Because you know what? When he shot that single leg to get up on her right away, he was like, what the fuck, man? He grabbed it and was like, oh, shit. Come on, man.

He's like, why is your leg here? Why do you have pants on? What's going on here? I mean, he was turned up and probably closing his eyes, you know? Turtled up, trying to avoid the punches that were coming at his face. Who knows? It just seemed like they didn't land. It's like he got hit with that

one big shot, he goes down, but then the two afterwards, they were kind of deflected. His head wasn't... He wasn't doing what a guy who was conscious would do with his head or neck, I feel like. He was certainly conscious. It's a matter of how compromised he was. Yeah, well, because if you look at it, the head's not moving at all.. Well, he was certainly conscious. It's a matter of how compromised he was. Yeah, well, because if you look at it, the head's not moving at all.

You know what I'm saying? Like his head's not reacting to anything. His arms are up stiff and it's not moving. But it was enough to stop the two punches that he was trying to throw at him from hitting him. Well, is that him or is that bad shots on Brunson? If we're on the fence about that, I think you'd let it go. I agree with you on this one. I agree with you on this one. I agree with you on this one.

Here's where you give Herb Dean the benefit of the doubt, though. He said Herb was looking in his eyes while all this shit was going down, and he might have not been there. I agree. He might have been off in the dark lands. Or Herb had a late night last night. Herb's angle, different from the camera, it actually looks like he's getting hit. Yeah. Whereas our angle is just as better.

Hmm. Maybe. You know? Yeah. I would say that Herb has the best view ever, though, right? Ever. He's like he's getting hit. Yeah. Whereas our angle is just as better. Hmm. Maybe. You know? Yeah. I would say that Herb has the best view ever, though, right? Ever. He's like on top of him. Ever.

It's interesting. It's hard to really predict. Where are they tonight? Hildago. Where the hell is that? Where is that? South Texas, near the border of Mexico. Oh, shit.

For our show, I put hashtag where the fuck is Hildago. And then some guy's like, I'm from there, asshole. If you're from Hildago, relax. What's the closest major city to Hildago? Mexico. Juarez? Juarez? Yeah, I actually don't know.

I have no idea. Don't quote me on that. Yeah, if you want to fly in, you've got to fly to Mexico, and they take you over on some sort of a shuttle. Am I right? Yeah. Right on the border. Oh, it is right on the border. Public school's paying off, son. Wow, that's

really right on the border. How many miles is it from the border of Mexico? Let's just do it in Mexico, huh, UFC? Holy shit. I mean, it's right there. Was I right about Juarez? They should have just brought in all Mexican fighters and treated it like a Mexico City card. And then have cartels as the security be sick.

Right? Be fucking sick. And then they all come out to mariachi bands and narco songs. Yeah. They're all at the Canelo fight, but yeah, that'd be a brilliant idea. That's right. That's why they do it at night. It's in Dallas Stadium, son.

Is it? How about Liam Smith? He's never fought outside the UK. And they're like, oh, cool. Here's Canelo in Dallas Stadium sold out. Get you some. Wow. I'd love to see that fight. What is that, 50,000 people?

60-something, isn't it? 60,000? Canelo can sell some fucking tickets. What's interesting is Gennady Golovkin can't. I know. It's weird. Like, he does pay-per-views. They don't do well.

They really don't. No, that's why he fought on HBO last week. Yeah, he's not really a pay-per-view fighter. But, man, in my eyes, there's no more exciting fighter maybe ever. He's blood and guts. He's got nasty fights. He's up there. He's got nasty boxing, beautiful movement.

Then he gets on the mic and goes, big drama show. I try big drama show. All right, man, we need something else. You got to take English lessons. Crank. Here it goes. So he's down. Boom. Boom. See the limp left hand?

You see the limp left hand, though? Not doing much. I don't know, man. It's hard to see from there. Let's see it from here. We can all agree on this. Boom! That was a beautiful left hook. No, those don't land, man. Here's my thing is that he's probably still fucked up from that shot While he's down there

But you didn't stop him from the shot And then those three things that he threw All missed What changed? Yeah, it's certainly controversial But he was definitely fucked up on the ground there But he wasn't getting more fucked up when he stopped it It's too bad it's controversial

Because Bronson landed that perfect left hook. He would never want to take anything away from that moment. That's nothing on Bronson, right? But it is if everybody says it's a bullshit stoppage. It makes you feel bad. It should be clean. You're going to have to give your eye half your paycheck now.

I hate to be shitty about it. Could they fucking please put a 145 pound weight class in instead of having Cyborg starve herself every time they let her fight? It doesn't make any sense. Well, because at 145 she's going to kill a bitch. At least at 140 she's dehydrated. What poor soul is going in there to fight this girl?

Could there be a scarier fighter than Cyborg? The woman, Lena Landsberg is her name, and she's a world Muay Thai champion. I don't give a fuck. She's actually very badass. Fantastic. Fly down Brazil and fight Cyborg. Yeah, in Brazil. She's going to punch you in the face so hard.

Now, you want to talk about Mike Tyson effect? There you go. There you go. Why don't you relax? Who's Lena Landsberg? I don't know. She's a world Muay Thai kickboxing champion. Oh, shit.

Very good striker. She's got nasty elbows, particularly kickboxing champion. Oh, shit. Very good striker. She's got nasty elbows. Particularly good in the clinch. Knees to the body. I bet she's fantastic. Elbows over the top. Yeah, I bet she's great. Anyone want to bet on that?

Yeah, I bet you. Didn't even know what she fights like. Did you see what happened when she fought Yarina Barsch? I don't care who Cyborg. Did you see when she fought Yarina Barsch? I sure didn't. I've seen Cyborg fight. Jermaine Durand-Ame is the same weight class.

135. Dude, she's bad. Yes. For those two, that was so bad. Yeah. Oh, God. Dog. Yeah, Cyborg's a monster.

She's terrifying. She beats the shit out of chicks. But she lost to Jarena Barge in a fight where Barge dominated her. There's Lena Landsberg. She's good, dude. She's a good kickboxer. She's got good striking, good movement. She's good, dude. She's a good kickboxer. She's got good striking, good movement. She's good, man.

That's her shit, right? That front kick jab? Well, she throws a round kick and then she comes from behind it when you're recovering with her right hand. But she's got good elbows and a clinch, too. The question is, is she going to be strong enough to keep Cyborg off of her? That's the real question. Is she going to keep her head enough to use her movement and her technique? She's fucking good, dude. She's a good striker. Doesn't go past two rounds. I

Don't think so. Too bad Brian Callen's on here to bet you in a way where- Here he is with 12 fucking grand That's what I was gonna say if you let me keep time. Sorry. For real? Are you a child-trainer or is that thing? You got me fired up, Joe. I'm done betting Callum until he pays me. Callum bet him, and then he lost the second. He's like, let's go double or nothing. They bet six grand. He lost.

He's like, double or nothing. So he loses again, and now he's ghost. I haven't heard from him. Yeah, he's hiding in New York. Until New York had that bomb. He goes, brother, I'm safe. Let's just forget about the money, huh? Yeah, exactly.

He set the bomb so he doesn't have to pay you. I had your money. We got blown up. It's fucking crazy. He was in a suitcase. I need more time. This is going to sound amazing. Yeah.

You can't bet those large sums unless you're going to pay up. That's a lot of money. The juice is running. Paying a friend. The colonel is a pimp? Did you guys see that? Yeah. George, what the fuck's his name, right?

George Hamilton? They have a different Carol Sanders every week now. I like the pimp one. Rob Riggles won that one. For sure. They should keep that one forever. I'd like to see Arsenao. So what was your two bets?

He bet on Overeem. Conor Diaz. So he bet on Diaz in the first fight, and then he bet on Overeem In the Stipe fight But he's the one That wanted to And I go Dude I don't want Just pay me my money

He goes no no no Overeem Stipe And he goes You get to pick first I'm like I'll take Stipe But you gotta pay me He goes fine

I'll take Overeem So when he lost You guys have done Podcasts since then What kind of conversations Have you had about The money that he lost He's like

Do I have to check in my car? Blah, blah, blah. And then we do the show and then after he just dips out. So you ask him, point blank, are you going to pay me? Yeah, and he's like, I swear I'm going to pay. He said, I swear I'm going to pay. The thing is, it's tough when he's up front. What are you going to do?

Where am I going to fucking... You're going to not pay him for the t-shirts. Yeah, that's what I could do. I could just not pay him for merchandise Or are you just going to accept the fact that Everything with him is sort of theater That's what I'm going to accept I would never take money from him I mean if you gave me a check

It's a lot of money man If you lost $12,000 And came to him With $12,000 in a bag And just handed it to him, pushed it over to him. He said, are you sure? And you're like, yeah, you won. Do you think he'd give it back to you?

I do. Really? I do. You wouldn't know Brian better than me, but I feel like you would. I'd just keep going double or nothing until he wins, and then there you go. That's what he was hoping.

Yeah, you'd just keep going. But I won't bet on that, because you can't make a bid out of it. You see how big you can go before, he's eventually going to win. You'd be surprised. Can he owe you

$250,000? He's not going to pay you but just see how high you can go. Well then no one cares. Tell him he goes. Well no one cares if they know that

he's never going to pay then why care, why bet? Well here's the thing. You they know that he's never going to pay, then why care? Why pay? Well, here's the thing. You see how high you can go. I have to hold him accountable. If Callan is on a plane that gets hit by an asteroid and he dies, you go after his family. Yeah, oh, yeah.

I'm going to tell his wife, God, this sucks. I'm going to need that $12,000. I got to document it on air. We've talked about it. He owes me $85,000. You know what? Let me just take this test. I'm going to get out of here. And listen, $85,000. Let me just take this test. Listen, 12 becomes 24 real quick.

Real quick. 24 becomes 48 real quick. You know how it becomes 24? Because he wanted to bet on Yoel versus Weidman. Because I want Weidman. No, he wants to go more. He wants to go Yoel. Keep going.

Keep going. No, he has to figure it out. Just keep going. Come on, man. That's entertainment right there. Eddie Bravo is 100% right. But pretend like you really want the money so that your audience- Yes.

You can't pretend I really want my fucking money. This is show business, Brendan. I don't bet like that with friends. I'll bet a friend 100 bucks. I don't mind paying a friend 100 bucks, but I don't want anybody giving me $1,000. Me neither. It feels shitty, man. It feels like that would hurt.

I agree. I don't want to take away from his kid's horse riding lessons or some shit. That just seems like... That's a weird thing with rich dudes. If you're like a Lorenzo Fertitta or some sort of super rich dude type guy, if you're going to have a bet, that shit has got to be preposterous. For you to care? Just to get your heart rate up.

Yeah, just for you to care? Yeah. Mark Cuban and Lorenzo Fertitta, they get drunk together one night and they decide, let's get down. You want to have a bet, motherfucker? And they get crazy and they look at a $50 million bet. No, they're betting like private jets.

You know what I'm saying? Different level. I don't know, man. You thought they were rich before. Holy shit. How's Lorenzo partying these days? I'd say he made a gold spaceship, and he's just going to have a window where only his dick hangs out.

He's going to fly all over the place. If you had a trillion dollars, wouldn't you just go everywhere in a helicopter? You would just like, what? I don't know, man. Why fuck with traffic? Can you imagine the stereo system he has in his helicopter? Holy shit. Nothing changes for those guys.

Yeah, I think they were already so super rich. They're just more super rich. And if I had to guess, he's probably going to get into the football game because he's a big fan of football. Oh, kids coming to Vegas. Kids play football. Isn't that what you said? Yeah, they're talking about that. And there was a Raider front office looking at the facilities for

practices already. A Las Vegas NFL team? Oakland Raiders will go there. Interesting. I guarantee you the Fertittas will have some part in that. They're great guys. They're brilliant. You know what I've also heard? And I don't... It could be true. I don't know. This is from guys

dealing with them. Since the sale, everyone says Dana's so much better to deal with on negotiations. I guess since sale, he's just way cooler to deal with now. For whatever reason, maybe, you know, who knows. But they say he's just way – you know, not that he wasn't impossible to deal with, but just his demeanor is completely different in a positive way. Interesting. Which is cool to hear.

Yeah. I mean, he was already – Dane has been super rich in a positive way. Interesting. Which is cool to hear. Yeah. I mean, he was already, Dana's been super rich for a long time, but there's super rich. And then there's like, how many hundreds of millions of dollars did he make from that chat? 400 or something like that. He hasn't got all of it yet. It's like over years, but still. Yeah, whatever.

Yeah. There's like a level. From what I've heard from people that are going through negotiations right now, they're like, dude, it's crazy. He's like, he's way better to deal with. Interesting. That's awesome. Yeah.

I'm very curious to see what these guys, you know, Ari Emanuel is a super savvy entertainment dude. You know, his knowledge about the business is pretty much unparalleled, or at the very least at the top of the heap. It's him and then CA. He's got some crazy connections. It's going to be interesting to see what they can pull off because, you know, I don't know how long

the deal with Fox goes on, but, you know. I think it's another two years. I was having a conversation with Dana way back before they were doing this Fox deal. They were talking about

buying a network at one point in time, and it was like right before the economy collapsed. If they wound up buying that network, one point in time, and it was like right before the economy collapsed. If they wound up buying that network, who knows where the fucking sport would be. You know what I think is going to happen? I think once the Fox deal is up, and I may or may not have heard this from some smart, smart people involved in it. You know how the NFL and NBA, it's just not on Fox, on CBS, NBC.

They think ESPN, Fox, like they're not going to just be on one network with just Fox. Have the lightweights and the welterweights on NBC. You're going to see ESPN promoting UFC fights big time, some big fights. You're going to see Fox doing it, similar how the NBA and NFL is. That makes sense. They just did an NFL game this week, broadcasted on Twitter live on Thursday night. It was on the actual app, like on the website or on your phone. It was on Twitter live on Thursday night. It was on the actual app on the website or on your phone. It was on Twitter.

So you could watch the game on Twitter. It said it was trending and then next to a little live button. Whoa, that's intense. That's intense. Do you guys have those things, those little stands that you put in your bed and you clip your phone where you could just watch your phone like shit?

No, I hate my phone. Because generally, for the longest time, I'd have to hold it, kind of set it. You know, if I wanted to watch anything on my phone. Now, my wife got me to stand. You're addicted, huh? Yeah, where it's an awesome clip where now I look forward to getting in bed

and just watching Netflix. Why don't you get an iPad? Yeah, why don't you just put on the TV, though, huh? Ridiculous person. I do that, too. I do that, too, but it's nice to get in bed. Because, you know, if you take an iPhone here and you hold it to your face like this, that's like sitting in the last row in a movie theater.

No, it's not. It's exactly the same thing. It's going to fuck your eyes up. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. No, it's not. Yes, it is. No, your eyes don't move very much.

No, no, no, no. When you're looking at the last row of a movie theater, you're looking at this big thing. Yes. It's still a big thing. You're moving your head around. A lot of shit's going on. This thing is, you've got to like, oh, there's a little thing right in front of me. at this big thing yes it's still a big thing you're moving your head around a lot of shit's going on this thing is you got to like oh there's a little thing right in front of me i gotta pretend it's big think about it think about it next time thinking about it get in when you're lying in bed turn off all the lights and then put your phone like this

close and it's it's like it's the exact same proportions that if you're sitting in the last row in a movie theater yeah kind of oh look at this these guys are getting each other's face right before the fight. Well, you know they have those VR goggle headsets. It's actually a phone. You slide a Samsung phone into this VR goggle, and it becomes like a virtual reality headset. Aren't Samsung phones blowing up? They're blowing up, yes.

Is that real? Like crazy, dude. Oh, my God. The Note 7. That's going to destroy Samsung. It's going to destroy them. It's going to hurt. Who the fuck would get a phone?

One of those. They blow up? Oh, are people dying? Dude, people's houses. Oh, they actually blow Samsung. It's going to destroy them. It's going to hurt. Who the fuck would get a phone? One of those. They blow up? Oh, are people dying? Dude, people's houses... Oh, they actually blow up. I like what you're saying. They're blowing up. This dude in Florida videotaped his house.

His house caught on fire from a fucking Samsung phone. Have people died from Samsung phones? Blowing up, literally. Yeah, look at that. That's not good. Oh, no. They're done. Can you imagine the stock right now with Samsung? Oh, it dropped radically. Oh, shit, they're done. There was one where stock right now with Samsung

Oh, it dropped her. Oh shit. No more microwaves. Nothing. He's there's one where a guy was in his driveway. He had his car His phone charging just sitting on his console Bursting the flame came out his dog was barking his fucking cars on fire a blaze in his driveway from his goddamn phone They videotaped the whole thing. So he's like, what the fuck is this? Do your kids ever go through your phone and look at videos and shit? You let them watch cartoons on your phone every now and then, right? Imagine.

Yeah, imagine if it blew up on them. Oh, man. Well, a six-year-old boy did apparently get burned from a phone blown up in his hand. If they're recalling these phones, imagine how many people got fucked up from them. Dude, they recalled a million phones. Holy shit. A million phones. I wonder how many accidents. Can you find Imagine how many people got fucked up from them. Dude, they recalled a million phones. Holy shit. A million phones. I wonder how many accidents.

Can you find out how many accidents, Jamie? Is that possible? It just said there was like 25, 26 reports of burns and 55 reports of property damage, including fires. That's a lot for a fucking phone. I bet that's zero for iPhone. I bet zero iPhones are blowing up. Yeah, well, this is the first time this has ever happened with any major manufacturer. I've never heard of anything like this before.

Just like that thing you were talking about? Those cars back in the day, like Pintos and shit, were killing people, right? But that was from accidents. They'd get rear-ended, and the gas tank was in a bad position. How about that thing you were talking about? Elon Musk came up with a battery that stores solar energy. How fucking dangerous would that be? Like some kind of cell that's

holding all this energy? Holy shit, you'd want to put that in the back shed. Like, on the other side of the backyard. It's a good point if it blows up like these Samsung phones, right? Yeah. Real good point. Because think about how small the phone is, and think of how big the battery bank must be to power your fucking

J-Lo mansion. Oh, that's what the energy companies do. That's what I come back to. They can just start false flagging houses blowing up. You had a ticket, sir? Solar energy is blowing up houses. That's an easy one. And then everyone's like, oh, we're going to stay on the grid. Fuck that sun shit.

Yeah. Here we go. What do you think about this fight? What do you think about this fight? Tremendous amount of shit talking between these two. Wayne's a really good fight. It's a really good fight, man. They're just playing.

Johnson is, it's very interesting because he's, at times, like, looks real good striking. But the question is, does he have enough to hang with Poirier? And does he choose to strike with him or does he try to take him down? Like, what is he going to do here? It's going to be really interesting. Poirier pretty much has the same strategy always. Presses forward and tries to strike. Looks great at this weight class, though.

Jamie just pulled up some shit where they're ready on Tesla for blowing up, right? Put that back up, Jamie. It said Tesla. Look at this. Tesla spontaneously catches fire, burns down during test drive in France. You know what? They should put that on. All they got to do is put that on CNN all day for a week.

Fuck. That's it. And then that's it. It's so easy to get rid of good technology. Well, they had a problem with Teslas early on where if underground debris or ground debris, like if they rode over some rocks or something like that and it damaged the undercarriage, they could have some issues. So they fixed that issue somehow or another.

They probably like polyurea coated the bottom of the cars or something. It says they put a titanium shield on the bottom. There you go. That helps. Oh, man. It's so easy to get rid of Tesla. This is an interesting fight here, man michael johnson at one point in time was looking real good he was climbing that ladder six fight win streak but the nate diaz

fight set him back quite a bit he got dismantled in that fight that was the best nate's ever looked good luck being that nate yeah nate looked real good man and i was talking to ludwig about it he was talking about how the way nate throws his one two He goes like most people go one two Like the left hand and then the right hand Comes behind it With Nate they're coming at you at the same time It's like They're coming together

Yeah he's like it's a totally different rhythm It's over That's a wrap son Hold up yeah for sure Jump the fuck in there On that one Oh my goodness Oh my goodness Oh my goodness

Henry Hooft And Michael Johnson Michael Johnson Got it done He's doing the Give me my money He's doing the Johnny Manziel

Michael Johnson Oh Stand over you Oh Well you're not doing any fans He just said Fuck you bitch Wow

It's a fight He said fuck him And he just said Fuck him you, bitch. Wow. It's a fight. He said, fuck him. And he just said, fuck him. A lot of shit talking. Wow. There must have been some serious shit talking before this. Oh, look at him. He's cussing him out now.

Boy, you're talking shit to him. Yeah, you can't. You can't do that at this point. Why don't you guys fight? Oh, wait. You can't do that at this point. You can't. Remember when Tank Abbott fought Nelmark?

He fought somebody. Steve Nelmark. No, no, no. It wasn't Nelmark. John Latua. No, no, no. It wasn't him. It was a Taekwondo guy.

Forget his name. But he fought a Taekwondo guy. Forget his name. But he fought a Taekwondo dude who fought in the earlier UFC. And Tank fucked him up. And he fucked him up too long. And the ref tried to stop it. John McCarthy tried to stop it. But he hit him like an extra shot. And then the guy tried to fight Tank after that for fucking him up.

It was so weird. He wanted to fuck him up for fucking him up. Dude, they're trying to rally Johnson. They're just being like, dude, calm down. Oh, what's going on here, man? Because he keeps talking shit. Beautiful. He's totally out of position. Dustin Poirier's

feet were totally out of position and Johnson landed a perfect shot. Look, the referee lost his shoe. Powerful black sketching. First time ever. That's what you get for wearing fucking sketchers. Boom, bam. It's interesting from the other angle because his feet were completely out of position. And then he cracked them again. Damn.

Look at this. Look at where Poirier's feet are. Look at where it lands. Great defense by Johnson. Yeah. Boom. Beautiful. Bam, bam, bam, bam.

How cool would it be if he had a line to the truck from here? Like you could talk you know you know when you're working the show look at that look at that fucking walk dude it took security and even dan margiela yanked him down the cage was like dude calm down even the cut man was like dude chill he's still talking shit yeah he's still doing that give him my money thing yeah give me my paper wow see see this where I was like why are you cutting away From the controversy Put it on let's hear what these guys are saying to each other

Let's see what Johnson was saying to him I'd much rather see that than this Yeah mic him up I love me some Dan Hardy but I'd much rather See those two jawing at it Well you know there's time for that And then there's time for this after that's done It's true

There's also time for a fucking burger, King. Let them jaw at each other. Come on, folks. Let's see what they said. I mean, they must have said some awful shit to each other for Johnson to knock him out and still be mad. He must have been saying some more awful shit for securing the cut, man. Like, hey, let's relax a little. You won, my man.

Pretty amped up. It's always weird to me when guys are mad after the fight. Like, you won, man. You physically beat me up. Let's relax a little. You won, my man. Pretty amped up. It's always weird to me when guys are mad after the fight. Like, you won, man. You physically beat me up. Let's relax. Yeah. It's always weird to me. Wow.

That's a setback and a half for Poirier. But that high you get. That high, like, I'm a fucking conker. Now I don't have to take any shit. Now you just want to fuck more people up, right? I could only imagine, because I've never, ever fucked anybody up. I could never imagine. i've never ever fucked anybody up i can never imagine all i do is is uh have you had animosity joe showing you have you you beat a guy let's say there's bad blood before you guys fight do you carry on do you hold that bad blood in the locker room you kind of get it out i think so yeah usually usually have you ever fought a guy where it's just bad

mad shit talking like it was like out of control on twitter and shit uh yeah i've had i had like a couple like beefs like that where we had like multiple fights me and levin had three fights me and uh i fought simon mark you guys are on twitter telling each other to fuck off and shit uh not really i don't think twitter it was more like interviews like back and forth myspace the levin one was weird because levin pulled out of your fight and then he fought simon marcus after that and and just stopped fighting at one point in time right like what what happened in that fight with uh simon and levin i was there and i still don't know what happened uh i think um he got a uh a warning or something for hold for holding or i think uh he got an eight count i think they fell between the ropes and the and levin didn't get

back in the room the ring fast enough so they give him a standing eight count and he got pissed but yeah he just quit like halfway through the fight just got up like walked out of the ring and he hasn't really fought since has he no i don't think so you were saying that you didn't think that he wanted to fight anymore it was like one of those things like the reason why yeah i can't imagine anybody like i lost like i had respect for him even though we had like it was like we're rivalry but and then when he did that i just you're like the champion and you're representing kickboxing and you're representing your country and you're representing all this like shit and you're representing kickboxing and you're representing your country and you're representing all this shit and you quit because you took your ball home and then gave up your world title.

It was ridiculous. You know what I mean? Yeah. He got out of the ring defending his title and quit. Yeah. That was just weird to me. You don't see that, you know? It'd be interesting if Johnson talked shit here.

Well, I think he's calmed down because they just hugged each other, you know? Let's hear what he's saying. Pay me, baby, what's up? Wow. See, everybody's going WWE. Well, but pay me what's up. Maybe if it's a contract. Crank.

Bang. Regression. Nation. Fight. Dude. Well, but pay me what's up. Maybe it's a contract crank recognition fight dude This is a beautiful combination look at this crank bang Mmm Don't don't make Nate Diaz get in shape now Is he a Division I wrestler as well? Yeah, very good wrestler

It's just weird how the referee lost his shoe Do you tie your shoes? What's going on, buddy? Those are Skechers, sir Have you ever lost your shoe in a scramble? Those are Skechers Maybe they should be wearing wrestling shoes That's a great idea

You know what? Chandler gave him a flat tire if you watch that back No one should be wearing Skechers in a street fight. You mean Poirier or Johnson? I'm just kidding. Oh, look at this. Kaboosh! Oh, beautiful.

How did he lose it? How did he lose the shoe? Look, where is it at? He lost it. Oh, right there. Oh, that's a bad angle. I think Chandler gave him a flat tire. That's Dan.

You know what? The shoe was probably too small because Dan's feet are so fucking big. He probably didn't have any shoes that fit him because Dan Mergliato is a giant is a giant man It's like a size 18 shoe couldn't find with the mall. He's a fuck. Give me the 16 He looks like you should be wearing those new balance because they're extra wide foot You know I'm saying like people really wide feet have those new balances those weird old new balances Maybe put the 16 on but he said I just won't tie him old new balances?

Maybe he put the 16 on, but he said, I just won't tie them. It's not going to be a problem. I'll wear these. It's not going to be an issue. Like sandals. I won't tie them. Hey, you know that

SAP function for the UFC, that SAP? Yes, for Spanish. Yeah. You can hear the Spanish commentary. What if the UFC came to you and said,

we want to add an option to listen to the fight companion? See, the problem with that is then we would have to guarantee we're going to do it. We don't always want to do it. Yeah. You know?

Like, sometimes we're out of town. Like, the beautiful thing about the fight companion is we're independent. You know? We get together, and we really would be doing this anyway. What if they drove $2 billion? Okay. Yeah, what do I got to do? But you'd also have to-

I want to hang out with Lorenzo in Italy. I want to get a yacht and be like, what's up? Is that the end? Is that the end? Is the yacht? The yacht and the helicopter and the private jet, that's the last shit, right? That's the last shit. There's nothing over that.

No, islands. Islands. Island is the last shit. Islands where you land your yacht or your helicopter. Yeah, by the time you have an island, you already have a yacht and a helicopter. And a jet. Yacht's like you're a white belt at being a billionaire, right? Yeah.

It's like, okay, you got a yacht. That's cute. Standard. You know there's Uber boat. So you're a billionaire starter kid. Oh, dude, he got lit up. God damn. That was a ferocious stoppage.

That was ferocious. What's the latest on jetpacks? I mean, you were doing that joke in 2000 about how, why the fuck? Because they had jetpacks in the 70s. That was in 2006? In the 70s. They had jetpacks on chips. I don't know if you're over 40, you might remember chips with Eric Estrada.

I love chips. Yeah, they had fucking jetpacks back then. You're telling me that? That was real? That shit should be mastered. Yes, they've had jetpacks. You could, you could. I don't think they had jetpacks. Jetpacks back then. You're telling me that? That was real? That shit should be mastered. Yes, they've had jetpacks. You could, you could. I don't think they had jetpacks.

Jetpacks are real. I don't think that was real. Well, look at Rocket, man. No, no, no, no, jetpacks. No, hey, if they weren't real, I believe it. Listen, I was in. We were brainwashed. I believe it.

Hold on. I was in Denver with my boy Willie from KBPI in Denver. Love Willie. Love that dude. 1067. And Willie took me into the parking lot. They had a show that they did live from the parking lot where a dude flew a jetpack.

So jetpacks do exist, but the dude who flew it had two ACL braces on. I said, what? I go, what's up with the ACL braces? He's like, dude, I fucking crashed this thing so many times I tore my legs apart. He goes, at this point, I'm not even going to bother getting it fixed. Yeah, they have them.

But the one that this guy had, this is a much newer prototype. With Willie and the gentleman who we saw, this was like 2000. Yeah, let's get some good looks at this. So back then, they could only do it. He said they could only fly for 30 seconds. So what would happen is he would go 15 seconds up, and then it would take about... He really wanted to go down. He said, I'd like to land in about five seconds.

He's like, because I've needed a buffer. At like 30 seconds, you're basically out of juice. That's awesome. Complete waste of time. Hey! But for now, see, the thing is, virtual reality... They've been working on that for 50 years, dude! They've been working on this forever!

Virtual reality used to be a waste of time, too, until the computers and the technology caught up. Now, they have virtual reality that'll freak you the fuck out, man. There's a crazy virtual reality... Not the one you showed me. No, no, no, no, you never did it. You never did it. I didn't show you anything. Yeah, you didn't.

No, I didn't. No, I didn't. What did you you show me you never put a goggle on you never went no i saw the graphic no no no no no no no no you're seeing it in two dimensions it doesn't mean anything when you put that goggles on and you're looking around this world even if the graphics aren't perfect they freak you the fuck out really yeah people get vertigo they get weird you're walking a wire in a canyon. You're like, holy shit. I'm scared of heights. Even in this fucking... I was in some hallway. There's a boxing one.

There's a boxing one. It's weird because you hold these handles. You gotta hold them like this for your fist to look like this in the game. It's very strange. It looks like you're hitting the guy like this with your hands, look like this in the game it's very strange so like it looks like you're hitting the guy like this with your hands but you're really doing this in the air it's so it's not a hundred percent like boxing technique but you could change that i mean you could definitely

change it to you're putting something in your hand wherever position your hand is in that's the position the gloves would be in and then it would feel a lot more natural but it's very this is what it looks like it's very rudimentary right now. But as far as like movement and as far as like teaching someone how to avoid punches and counter, you don't feel anything when you hit them, but you do have to move correctly in order to hit them. What happens if you throw the right technique? The punch just, it doesn't catch up with it? You should have it. No, what happens if you do throw?

It doesn't matter because it's not based on how the punch actually, what position the glove is when it lands. It's based on whether the glove lands. Wouldn't it be cool to do it with some kind of helmet that has electroids that connect to your brain where you can kind of feel when you get hit? Yeah, get zapped.

Yeah, a little zapped. That gives you Parkinson's quicker than actual head trauma. Well, here's what happened. The dude in the video game caught me with a punch, and when they catch you, you see a flash. That's kind of cool. And it gives you the same

feeling that happens when you get punched. You're like, oh shit, I better move. Yeah, but it gives you that, oh shit, we're in trouble. That's pretty dope. It gives you that same little weird endorphin rush if you get actually punched in the face. It's very interesting. Very interesting. So what I'm thinking is, if someone develops a program where they take a guy like you,

and Joe Schilling does his kickboxing techniques, and you literally, I mean, it's going to have to be one or two more versions of this, improvements, but it's going to have to be like one or two more versions of this, improvements. But it's going to get to a point where it's virtual, to a point where it's super high resolution. So they could hire a guy like you to throw kicks and punches in a computer simulation where all of your different kicks and punches are all programmed in there along with patterns that you might use. And someone can actually practice fighting you without fighting you. Like your opponent. Yeah. That's crazy. Kind of nuts. Like you would get used

to seeing you across the cage. That would be illegal to steal someone's fucking moves. Can you imagine your trainer sold your fucking program to the enemy? Like imagine all your training where you need a partner that you're doing that it's like you're're basically doing eye training at that point it's a drill where you're doing actual like real-time head movement and you could wear that shit you could dude i'm

telling you sitting on my couch laying in bed and i'm doing that shit all the time it's attached to a cord so it would be weird for like spinning things it would be weird if you're trying to throw spinning elbows or spinning kicks or move too much you know if you had too much footwork you might get tangled up in this but how long for this motherfucker's wireless and once that thing's wireless then you just wear a helmet and you're basically in some enter the dragon room because you set these things up and where duncan had it he had it in his office which is essentially like the same size of this room you got a camera up there and a camera up there and it makes a grid on the ground. And that grid on the ground is the

battlefield. That grid is where you duke it out. There's an archery game and that grid represents a castle and these invading armies are coming and you're shooting at them with bows and arrows. Dude! It's already in a backpack, so it's off of big wires. It's not fully wireless.

That bitch got some Xbox on her back. That looks wireless to me. Which version is this, Jamie? It's the Vive. It's the same thing you used, but the whole computer is on her back. Can you buy them? Is that an Alienware? Is there a place where you can try them out? It's a company, like MSI, I believe.

Are they for sale, Joe? You can buy them. I thought maybe Duncan got a prototype. No, I mean for him to try it out. Eddie, you can try it out at Duncan's house. No, you can buy them. You can buy them right now. Duncan's house. I thought maybe Duncan got a prototype or something. No, I mean for him to try it out. Yeah, Eddie, you can try it out at Duncan's house. No, you can buy them. Yeah. There's not a place where you can go like an internet cafe

where they had a bunch of these. For now. They put you in a room, eight bucks an hour. You're just going to knock yourself out. It's going to happen. I'm telling you this technology is going to change the fucking world. There's no arcades anymore, right? Yeah, there's no arcades. Is there?

Yeah. Let's try going to Castle Park. I take my son there like every once or twice a week, Castle Park. We were there today. That shit's packed. Damn, there's still arcades. There's always, dude, as long as there's kids, there's going to be video games and arcades. Because on the weekends, and miniature golf, they don't even have to take care of the fucking miniature.

Well, miniature golf makes sense. It's packed on the weekends, man. During the summer, you got kids, you want to take them to fun places. Arcades are killing it, though. There's arcades that do it right. Those Dave and Buster's are everywhere. They're all across the country. I take my kids to Dave and Buster's constantly.

All kinds of crazy games. Anything for kids. I get the big blockbuster movies for kids all the goddamn time. Everything's for kids and music for kids and fucking Britney Spears and Justin Bieber. I get it. You want to make your kids happy and all that bullshit. They like that bullshit. Britney Spears.

Nintendo Glove. I take my kids to Toys R Us. Britney Spears is not for little kids. It's for like secretaries. Neither is Bieber. It's like horny secretaries. Yeah. Britney Spears.

Girls are just sitting there typing, thinking about dick. You're going to be taking your kid to Toys R Us eventually. Just let him get on the bikes and then he's just gonna be riding his bike like the shining and shit and you're just following me, you know, you take him there to ride the bikes and then eventually one of the Cashiers there one out of three times will say you can't just be riding these bikes Like all through the through the every aisle around the whole giant Toys R Us in Burbank Well, I like seeing what I was just there with my son the other day at baby's ours Toys R Us in Burbank? Well, I like seeing what, I was just there with my son the other day at Baby's R Us Toys R Us.

It's one, now it's like one big ass place. The toys are very similar when I was there. It's still Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, G.I. Joe's action figures, Micro Machines, but they're really not Micro, they're just regular now. But same shit, really.

Dude, your kid's gonna be on your phone going through your pictures and shit. No, hell no. No, that's gonna happen. No, that's gonna happen. For sure it's gonna happen. You're gonna be sitting when you're kidding he's like can i see a video can i see the video you're gonna be watching a video he's gonna want to see it too what are you gonna say no you're gonna be sitting there you guys gonna be looking at videos together music

videos and shit on your phone watch it's gonna have a pokemon go account on your phone yeah it's gonna have youtube channels it's so he It's not... Nothing's easy, but having a business where kids come for entertainment, man, that's like... Once you figure that out, that's forever. Like, there's a place called

Dizzy B's in Valencia. It's a giant place with these tubes and slides, and the kids go nuts. They're Billy B's. Have you ever heard of Billy B's in Valencia? Gigantic tube place, tube tube park where all these crazy it's fun for adults I go in there with my kid we start sliding down it's it's it's awesome

what are you showing us virtual reality yet no this is the jet man Dubai these guys are flying on these self-propelled I think they have to leave from a plane whoa but once they're in that shit it it's like a... How long do they go for? Holy shit. I think they have gas of some kind. Oh my God. Dude, that's amazing.

They said, fuck your 30 seconds. I wonder how long that tank lasts for. Holy shit. These guys are human planes. Those are birds. Oh my God.

That's insane. Look at that shit. Look at that thing. Is that real? That's not real. That's real. It's real. It looks fake.

No, it's real. It's fake. It's a real video. That's like, in the future, this is what it's gonna look like. No, it's real. It's fake. It's a real video. That's like, in the future, this is what it's going to look like. No, no, no. We're working on it. We need like investment. They're trying to invest in it.

If they show them right now on the skyline. No, Eddie, it's real. This is 100% real. I've already seen this. Oh, you've seen it? Yeah. This is real. Dude, look how close they are to the jet engines.

So bad. So dangerous. What if it catches fire like a Samsung phone, just burns your dick 30,000 feet only catches your dick on fire and then it goes out so your dick is gone that takes suicide bombing the whole fucking level right just imagine i would just undo those straps and i'll be like we're done here we're done here we're just gonna go 30 000 feet and out fuck your flying squirrel suit yeah it's just not my way didn't red one? Weren't they the first to do it? But it wasn't jet propelled. It was like a suit.

They still parachute though, right? That's so crazy. One false move and they're dead as fuck. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. They're not landing them right. They're parachuting. Yeah, they're chemtrailing the fuck out of Dubai.

Oh my God. Yeah. My friend Andy, he does those wingsuits. See, that's insane. Which is even crazier because he doesn't even have an engine behind him. And they're like right... Have you ever seen him crash on one of those things? Oh, yeah.

I saw the video of one guy from a GoPro, like from his point of view where he hits the ground. He just timed it shitty. It'll fuck your night up. He's going a hundred something miles an hour, too. See the moment the guy hit the bridge? No, no. It's not good. It's not hard. You can't see the aftermath of it. You can just see him hit. There's people hit the bridge it's not good you can't see the

aftermath of it you can just see him hit there's people watching it's not good I'd love to see it Jamie let's end this fucker with that let's end it with the guy running to the bridge what is it it's people love fucking thrills man I mean why do we like this Johnson Poirier fight because we love thrills

right we love craziness oh Jesus and people love watching things they love doing thrilling things and some people just have to they just have to go so far to get their dick card this guy dies coming in he's coming in a gorge there's a bunch of people on a bridge and he was trying to be a little bit of a hot dog they said and trying to go really closer than he was supposed to go like one guy went under the bridge and one guy went over he's the guy that was going over. I had a friend who was into this. Hold on a second.

Hold on a second. Boom! Donski. Oh, my God. He just hit the bridge? Oh, shit. That sound is him hitting the bridge? Hold on.

Play that back. And see that other guy? There's another guy that's behind him. Yeah, he went under. Play that sound again. Hold on a second. Yeah, that's game over, son. Whoa.

Play that one more time. Play that one more time. Listen to that sound. Listen to the sound. They knew before. The guy said, oh, shit, before. Dude. I knew a guy who was training for this.

You've got to do so many skydiving jumps To do this And by the time he was Like qualified to do Like a base jump So many of his group have died That he decided to back out It's like too many people are dying These guys die all the goddamn time

These guys One wrong move and you're dead It's over Oh shit Oh no These guys... That's him hitting the wall and bouncing off. One wrong move and you're dead. It's over. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Fuck, man. Holy shit.

God, you just can't have any mistakes. Oh, look what it did to the bar. That's an efficient... Oh. Who's that? That's something else. lens. Who's that? That's something else. You could go down a wound rabbit hole on YouTube. When I was a kid, you had to work to get a copy of Faces of Death. You had to actually go out.

You had to seek it. You had to go to that weird area, the video store. You had to hope somebody else hadn't rented it before you. Any little fucking kid whose parents aren't paying attention can go on YouTube now and watch dudes bounce off of cliffs and buildings and get run over by trucks. ISIS. Car accidents. Hell yeah. If YouTube doesn't catch it, those things, they stay on for a while.

And fucking high school kids are probably the first to find those things. You got a smart little fucker. He's on that under web looking at all sorts of shit. God, man. The input to someone's mind. Is that real? Under web? Dark web. That seems like such a... little fucker he's on that under web looking at all sorts of shit god man what the the input is that real under web dark dark web that seems like such a called the underwear like trap like yeah it's an under web you could do all not the black webs for real shit yeah but it just seems like it's a trap a trap well that's not you can't do all sorts of crazy shit. They've arrested people. Exactly. The guy who created that website, what was the website?

Silk Road. Silk Road, yeah. He's actually in jail for life for facilities. He's out? No, I was going to say he's not out. There's a pretty interesting, I don't know if it's a documentary is the way you want to word it, but on Viceland show. I can't remember the name of it, but they take a guy onto the dark web. They show you like this is going on a website. Here's the eBay. Here's how you can buy stuff with Bitcoin. it, but they take a guy onto the dark web. They show you, like, this is going on a website.

Here's the eBay. Here's how you can buy stuff with Bitcoin. Oh, look, there's heroin. Where do you get the, like, how do you trade my cash for Bitcoin? I wonder if that's been tightened up because of the trial. The trial was really crazy because it turns out that the DEA agents, the people who are investigating them, wind up stealing the Bitcoin money. So the investigating guys wind up stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And then the guy who created the whole thing still wound up going to jail. So there was obviously some fuckery and shenanigans and real corruption going on. And this dude's in jail for life. He's in jail for life. But they said that, see, I don't really know what he did. But I think they said that he was trying to get someone murdered. That was like one of the the possibilities right that someone had uh suggested they murder somebody and he was trying to set something up well that makes sense you can't be ordering killings of people watching that movie that uh alex winter made that he was in the deep web and

you can learn a lot about it yeah he didn't believe it alex didn't believe it it was an interesting documentary i watched the documentary before alex came. He didn't believe it. Alex didn't believe it. It was an interesting documentary. I watched the documentary before Alex came in. He didn't believe it, but the reality is he doesn't know. You don't really know what a guy did or didn't do unless you were there. It's just... We know the cops were liars, though. They were stealing money.

The very cops that were in charge of the case were stealing money from the account. The whole thing is so crazy jamie is anonymous like how do they still work how does that work what is do you know because anybody can be in you don't you know there's no like fucking meetings it's just a bunch of people online that are tired of bullshit smart people i'm down with that really really smart people yes but how do you know it's not fake like how come because they're all, but how do you know it's not fake? Like, how come, because they're all wearing masks, how do you know people aren't putting fake, how do you know the fake anonymous videos are the real ones?

Anybody can be, anybody can be, I mean, I don't know. I mean, how would you, I would have to talk to someone who's legitimately anonymous to get the full details. It's still going strong and they're still fighting crime, right? They definitely do. They definitely catch people that have done fucked up shit. Oh, yeah. What was the latest thing they've done? Well, I remember one story about a girl who

was throwing puppies in a river. Remember that shit? And they found her, and they doxed her information. You know, they've done some things. You know, they've closed down and hacked into databases, and companies are doing shady shit. What's going on here? I don't know if this is new, but Ari did a podcast

with a couple guys that were in Anonymous or they claim to be in Anonymous. So if you want to find that out, you can check out SkepticTank79 and listen to Ari talk with a couple guys. I'm just confused

as to how it's organized. Excellent. Is there an anonymous, like an official, there's an official Twitter? No. Who runs that? No, no, no.

There can't be because then people would know who they are. I got to say before I forget, Ari Shaffir's latest podcast is with Henry Rollins, Those Who Wander Are Lost. It's fucking amazing. That Henry Rollins guy is crazy. He's crazy. Have you had him on here?

He goes all over the world. No, he's amazing. That'd be amazing to have him on. I have a total newfound appreciation for him after listening to him on that podcast. They told me his work ethic. We work with the same guys for our live shows, and they were telling us about Henry Rollins and his work ethic on the live shows. It's insane, man. I can only imagine.

He goes to these weird places. He picks a spot in the world, travels there, and spends like a month there, and just brings a typewriter or rather a uh a camera and maybe a laptop and you know his clothes and shit and just lives with these people and just just goes to like koala lampore okay let's try that place goes by himself goes and hangs out takes uh photos during the day and at nighttime writes stories about it you know and he writes stories for a bunch of different publications i don't want to give away any more of it because it's just an awesome podcast. Interesting dude. Yeah.

Ari ran into him. I think Ari was in Stockholm and he was doing stand-up and Henry Rollins was there doing something else and they met up. Yeah, he's an interesting guy. Yeah. Talented guy. I mean, I always thought he was very smart and interesting and very passionate about a lot of things, but hearing him on Ari's podcast gave me a whole different appreciation for him.

I feel like you guys would connect. Maybe. On certain things. I think it'd be fun. Maybe you'd hate me. Or maybe you'd hate him. I don't think so. No, you guys would be friends.

Yeah, I think listening to him on Ari's podcast, I would find him completely fascinating. the aries podcast i would find him completely fascinating i just really uh respect that completely um off the beaten path choice of just deciding he goes to these places and he'll just go and you know hang out in afghanistan or go he's kind of always been a guy who's done it his way which you can appreciate yeah i mean he started off as a musician and then now what he does is he writes and he does like these spoken word things yeah apparently he's doing a run at largo in december so i might go down there and check yeah they say his live show is badass and it sells out like a motherfucker well i mean it's uh it's interesting he's kind of like kind of doing stand-up but not you know he's really just telling

stories about things so he's not confined which is um you, you know, a lot of people find like podcasts very freeing because it's one of the few times that comics aren't confined to this constant need to be funny like all the time, like over and over and over again. Like sometimes it shows that are just funny back and forth, funny back and forth, but you don't have to. Like sometimes there's a moment in a podcast where you just have to, you want to kind of explore something. You can't really do that on stage though.

You know, like a comic can't really do that on stage unless they do some sort of a weird artsy one person show. You know, but a guy like Rollins, he doesn't have like any defined pattern that his shows have to follow. Yeah, he's not in a box. Yeah. He's not a comedian. Like he can get up there and do, I know he has his guitar. He tells these epic stories from his life. Yeah.

You're right though. He can do whatever he wants his life. Yeah, you're right, though. You do whatever he wants. You're not going to that show going, make me laugh, clown. I need to laugh in the first 10 or 15 minutes. Go, go. Well, it's kind of interesting what you guys do with Fighter and the Kid, too. It's because you're doing a podcast, but you do a podcast live. And you're doing this podcast live, and it's kind of a comedy show, but it's kind of whatever

the fuck you want it to be a show. You can kind of make your own sort of format of entertainment. The live podcast format is a new form of entertainment in a way, and I've only done a couple of them. I did one of my own and a bunch of other people's ones. And the interesting thing about it is it's not the same thing when an audience is there. When you're doing it live, it becomes way more of like their attention span is taken into consideration much more.

Yeah. And Brian had the great idea to perform. Like it's a performance. You know, they're scripted parts. It's broken up into segments. Because when he decided to do it, I did my research and I went to some of the live podcasts. I'm like, dude, these people are loyal fans devoted. But this is boring man

it's just two guys on a mic talking there's not much to see and especially if you're in a comedy place like if you're doing the store or you have to pray improv where they're used to seeing big acts and people who entertain you gotta kind of do your thing man you're not gonna be able to just talk like buddies you gotta have a plan yeah if you're doing a big venue for sure. If you do it like Kevin Smith used to have this little theater in Hollywood. And I did a podcast there with him. I did one with Norton there. I did my podcast there with Norton a long time ago. And his theater only seats, I don't think he has it anymore, but it only seats like 40 people.

It's like this tiny little place. It's essentially like an acting studio where people would take acting classes and then you know they'd come down to the stage and perform and then like it's it's a it's it was so intimate was bizarre what was this format was it like a podcast because then i don't think you have to put on a show as much exactly yeah podcast yeah but it's a podcast in front of a really small super super, super intimate crowd. Like almost too intimate. Like Wally George. Remember that?

Wally George. Remember Wally George? I do, but I don't. From the 80s. Was he the guy with the weird hair? Yes. And he was on Late Night? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, that's right. He was a cable TV guy. I was in the audience of one of his shows because they would cut to the audience. He filmed in Anaheim. There he is. Wally George. He filmed in Anaheim. I got to piss.

Oh. Guys, keep this going without me, will you? Keep this going without me, will you? You don't remember Wally George or T. Young, though, right? I don't. Wally George. He's like an insane... What's he from?

He had this... I guess it was like, you know, that... What's it called? Free access TV? Public access. Public access TV show. It was Channel 6 in Denver, Colorado. And he filmed in Anaheim.

And his character was a total D-bag. But super Republican D-bag and yelled at people. He was just over the goddamn top. He was doing it for ratings? Hot seat. That's the name of it. It was insane. Do you still do your podcast, Eddie? No, man. You should stop doing it for ratings? Hot Seat. That's the name of it. It was insane. Do you still do your podcast, Eddie?

No, man. You should stop doing it. Yeah. It's just maybe I'll come back and do it. Maybe I will. But we did like 60 or 70 episodes, something like that. I don't even remember. I never go back and listen to them.

And I said enough shit. I'm like, do I want to be a fucking host? I don't want to be a host of shit. Maybe I'll change my mind. Maybe I will. But I don't want to be that guy that says the same shit over and over again because when you're running a show,

you do. You have to repeat that story because some people haven't heard it and then the people who have heard it, your hardcore fans are like, here we go with that fucking show. Depends on your guests too because did you have a partner,

or was it just you running it? Man, I'd have a room full of people. I just invited five people at a time just to have this conversation, just like this. I wanted four or five people to talk, but after a while, I do, I get sick of hearing myself

tell the same goddamn story. I think I've said enough. I think I've said enough. I mean, do I want to be a host of some shit? Well, listen, man. I really don't feel like I want to be a host. If you ever get the itch to do a podcast, you know you can always do this one. You know?

You can always come on and do my podcast. Well, no, no. I'm not talking about being a guest. I was asking about him doing his own show. But I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you just want to do it occasionally and just get the itch out, you know you got an open invitation.

You know what? Have you heard of that show Rockline? It's been on for 30 years bob coburn klo s big sure like that guns and roses kiss like all the big biggest like rock legends would get on klo s right once a week it's called rock line it's huge in la the um well bob coburn came down with uh some kind of cancer whatever and the show's on hiatus and the producer of the show he wants me to bring my podcast back and he said dude let me put together something for you and I'm on the fence about it I'm on the you know if we do this I'll you know who knows who knows who I don't know I

don't know listen you're a fun guy listen to man just do it I'm like it's not like you don't sign a contract or anything just do it I didn't know. Listen, you're a fun guy to listen to, man. Just do it. I might do it. It's not like, don't sign a contract or anything. Just do it. It'd have to be, just like you said, it'd have to be in a way where if I want to just do it on my pace, I don't want people like, oh, you've got to do four shows. Well, you have a studio. You have a studio, you know?

Yeah, you don't. You could always do it there. My studio actually sucks because it's a rehearsal studio, and sometimes I'll have guests, and there's a drummer that practices. I've done podcasts where the drummer's just shredding for two hours. Well, that's a problem studio and sometimes I'll have guests and there's a drummer that practices. I've done podcasts with a drummer just shredding for two hours. It becomes a problem. Well, you don't want it, Joe's right. You don't want, same with the companions.

Let's say someone's like, oh, we want to take this on and pay you guys a jigillion dollars. It takes the fun out of it if it's work. If we have to see each other once a week. Listen to me. A billion's different. If I decided to try each other once a week. Just take that money, bitch. Listen to me. Well, a billion's different. If I decided to try to do that just to test it out, maybe I'd take you up on your offer and maybe, you know, who knows? Maybe, you know.

Sounds like you don't know. I don't know. I'm one of the fucking fans. I don't know. Yeah, man. You have options. That's a good thing. Listen, if you ever want to do it from here, like, one day, just for a goof, just bring it back one day for a goof.

We could do it together. I might do that. I might do that. I think that you should do whatever the fuck you want to do, and you stop doing it for a reason. You stop doing it because you're so overwhelmed with responsibilities, with family, with jiu-jitsu teaching, with running EBI. It's not a priority. There's a lot going on. Especially with that.

Jiu-jitsu teaching with running EBI. It's not a priority. There's a lot going on. Especially with that. It's like, fuck, am I going to have a podcast, run EBI, run 10th Planet, make music? Fuck. There's a lot going on. There's too much. There's too much.

And then I got my son there. These are the most important years of his life. And I'm hanging out with him, and I'm trying to shut things off. I'm really focusing on trying to just shut the world off. Was your podcast making money? No. No. I never tried to even look for fucking sponsors, man.

I was just doing it on my own free time just for the fun of it. And I think I've said enough, man. All the episodes are still up on YouTube. I don't want to fucking repeat any of those stories. Let me tell you something, man. Even having sponsors is a fucking responsibility that you have to consider. Yeah. Because what if you have a sponsor that's not good?

Like, what if you have a sponsor that rips people off or something where it goes wrong? Like, there was a sponsor that came to me. It was like an Uber for nannies, for, like, people taking care of your kids. That's a brilliant idea. Like, you could, like, call someone. That's a great idea. It's a terrible idea. You don't even know this person.

What if they behave like Uber drivers? Yeah, I'm trying to make sense of you, too. That's idea. You don't even know this person. What if they behave like Uber drivers? Yeah, I'm trying to make sense of you, too. You don't even know these fucking people. And I heard it for a second. I go, no fucking way. I was like, no fucking way. But if they guaranteed that their babysitters run through a rigorous background check. You've got to be careful of that stuff.

And I've had this conversation with Joe before, too. Certain sponsors. We've turned down, I won't say the name of the company two mega sponsors because cal and i a don't believe in the product b our our audience like get the fuck out of here this isn't real you guys just do it for a paycheck so we turn them down we had one that was a suit company and super suit suit okay and you would have to go get tailored, and they send the suit in the mail, like these world-class suits. What's wrong with that? Well, what's wrong with that is both mine and Callan's came in the mail,

and they were just so shitty. They were just like, we can't do this, man. Because dude's going to order suits, and then they come all shitty, and they're like, dude, this is, you know, can't have it. Yeah, that ain't good. You know how it goes. Well, that's smart that you guys did that.

That's smart, because the last thing you want to do is disappoint your fans in a way like that where you can avoid it. You know, it's one thing if you get tricked, but if you could avoid it. It's just hard because right now it's really opening up the market as far as people that are advertising on podcasts. But they're still, they're not like mainstream names. You don't hear like Chevrolet advertising on podcasts or, you know they're not like mainstream names you don't hear like chevrolet advertising on podcasts or you know samsung imagine if samsung did well they should if you go back and listen to shit on them well well if they're smart they would because there's no better platform for loyal listeners than a fucking podcast who's gonna listen to rogan talk for whatever six hours a week nine hours a week they're dedicated man i'm till there's nothing like it well it's tv ain't shit a 30 second commercial ain't shit

do people want to fast forward no one's watching i have 500 fucking channels i never watch tv i watch tv i watch tv sports no no i watch net i watch netflix i generally don't i'm always on my apple tv i'm always on netflix always on the apple always on Netflix. Always on the Apple. Always on Netflix. The only time I watch regular TV is when The Ultimate Fighter comes on or something. I'm just saying the advertisement as far as TV is kind of dying. When I fast forward through football. Podcasts, if they were smart, man, with your audience or someone like Dan Carlin or NPR, that's where it's at these days for advertisers.

Well, they will more and more. They will more and more as they grow. Dan Carlin told me he's in a weird position because he gets a fuckload of downloads, but he does his podcast so infrequently that the best model for him as far as cash is actually to do it through subscriptions. So when you order it from iTunes, especially the older episodes, it costs $1.99. That makes sense for him. But let me tell you something.

It is worth so much more than that. His fucking podcasts, they're like a work of art. Correct. Who? Dan Carlin. I'll send you a link to Hardcore History. Wrath of the Khans, all about Genghis Khan and the Mongol Empire. Dude.

If he was our history teacher, we would all be fucking so into history. Love history. He's such a dynamic. He was on last week on my podcast. He's such a dynamic guy. We were just talking about him. What's his name? Dan Carlin.

I love that dude. He's so awesome. You guys opened the show with Flat Earth stuff? No, no, no. Who's that guy? Not Dan Carlin. He's too smart for that shit. What's that?

Michael Shermer. Yeah, Michael Shermer. Dan Carlin would have slapped somebody if you brought that up, though. Yeah, he's not really into Flat Earth. But he's got such a deep knowledge of so much fucking history, and he prepares for months to get these things ready. That's how it's different, right? Like a lot of podcasts, like you said on the show,

you just turn on and you're having a conversation with your buddies. Carlin has to fucking go balls deep into how he he's gonna articulate it the plan and there's you know they're starting finishing it's history so it's not an opinion well we were talking about and i was like you know what we're doing is a podcast what you're doing is like an audio art piece it's like a work of art that's also historically accurate it's like an audio book yeah it's way different you you termed an audio show, he's way more of a... And now I use that all the time. Where does he get his...

He obviously knows everything about Genghis Khan. Where does he get his information from? He gives you a bunch of different references that he uses from various history books. And he also shows the discrepancies in the opinions. How one person believed it was this, but another person... So he gives you a balanced perspective too. but then relays the undeniable facts. So he tells you when there's some vagueness in history, which I really appreciate too, because he's not dogmatic.

He doesn't have like one idea in his head of how things absolutely went down. So, and he's just so entertaining, man, because he has a background in talk radio. So he's just so good at being a professional broadcaster. And then the guy's a maniac when it comes to history. So he did this series on World War I. I had no idea how fucking crazy World War I was. No idea how nuts it is. I haven't heard that one.

Dude, they're all good. He's brilliant. Did you know that Hitler was actually a soldier in World War I? Wow. Did he talk about that? And not only was he a soldier, but he was one of the most he got like hardcore Purple heart type shit from Germany. He did the hardcore shit. He wanted a true good. Hold on real drop Well, what's it you might have read that from one of those sites I mean, I've never heard that.

I've heard that. He was a hardcore... He's won serious awards. He was a war hero. He was a war hero. That's why they got behind him, because he was so hardcore. Eddie's right on this, I feel like. Is he? What does it saying here?

Look at all this stuff. The worst job, the most dangerous job was sending messages to the front line from headquarters to the front line. That was the worst. He volunteered for that. He got hurt and he could have got discharged, but he was all fucked up. He didn't want to get discharged. He wanted to go back on the front line. Super decorated, huh? Yeah, he's super crazy. Super crazy. That's interesting. Some would say gangster. I never, he didn't bring that up at all. But that wasn't, you know, obviously if you're going to do a piece about World War I, Hitler doesn't play a big part unless you're going to continue with World War II and talk about his serving.

It's a good transition. Yeah, I guess. For World War II. If he does a World War II one, yeah, for sure. I did not know that. That's interesting. That's interesting. That's interesting. There's a lot of shit about World War II that, fuck, man, that I didn't know. It's fascinating shit how World War II connects to JFK, how that all comes together.

Fuck, it's gnarly shit. It's way better than fucking Game of Thrones. How dare you? Way better because it's real because it actually really happened to find out exactly. Way better because it's real because it actually really happened to find out exactly. Because what you get in high schools, you get basic Jack and Jill versions of what the fuck happened. You don't get down. Oh, this guy was shot and then the world went to war.

Fernand and whatever and Hungary. There's so much crazy shit involved. It really is like some kind of miniseries. Like you want to get into World War II and JFK. A lot of movies on World War II. It's an kind of miniseries. You want to get into World War II and JFK? A lot of movies on World War II. That's an eight-season miniseries. It's so complex. There's so many players. Jesus, God damn Christ.

Bro, if Callan was here right now, he would drop some knowledge on us about it that he remembers. Does he remember a lot about World War II? Is he a World War II buff? I don't think so. He loves history, though. So he'll drop it, even if he doesn't, though.

That's what we do. That's what he does, and I just listen. There's a moment in history where you go back and look at it, and things will never be the same. Now, Arthur Wright once wrote... It's the author, and I don't know. It does not

matter. Time had Adolf Hitler as man of the year one year. I did know that. Did you know Time had Adolf Hitler as Man of the Year one year? I did know that. Did you know that? Seems like a mistake. They also had Key and Peele. Isn't that the weirdest shit ever? Yes.

Wait a minute. What? Really? They had Key and Peele on the front cover of Time. He was Man of the Year for Time Magazine. Yeah, but that's not Man of the Year. Nah, still dope, though. Before they turned, before everything went wrong.

But at first, United States was totally into Adolf Hitler. They were into him. Eddie is dropping some serious World War II knowledge on your ass. Now, was Hitler not a vegetarian? I don't know. I'd go with no. I think that was a rumor that Hitler was a vegetarian. He also did a shitload of drugs, correct?

He might have been, I think he was on meth, right? Do you know that he was an architect in all the major buildings in Germany? He designed them. He was on meth, right? Do you know that he was on meth? I heard meth. You know, he was an architect in all the major buildings in Germany. He designed them. He was into designing not only the buildings, but you know those giant Nazi parades with all the giant crazy shit? He choreographed and designed all that shit. I mean, what a slogan for me to use. It's called The Architect of Doom.

It's about Adolf Hitler. That's why he started hating the Jews, because he was trying to get into this art academy that was run by Jews, and they denied him. Bro, do a World War II podcast. There you go. Dude, I'm a white belt with that shit. Eddie in World War II. You guys just haven't even walked into the gym, that's all.

I'm a white belt. It says that prior to 1937, he ate meat. And then after 37 on, towards the end of his life, he started becoming vegetarian. That's why he became evil. That's why he got crazy. Apparently he had chronic flatulence. That's another thing I heard. He just farted nuts out.

Dude, they tried to smear him. Yes, and he sucked boys' dicks too. He always farted. They're just like a smear. Terrible, terrible man. Vegan farting on meth? Can you imagine that? It'd bring that up.

Yeah. How many leaders had fart problems? They probably, like 80% of leaders probably had fart problems. They're drinking scotch all fucking night. Well, the meth thing is crazy because apparently, like, a lot of world leaders were on speed back then, right? Like, that was a big issue. Now, one of the things about Hillary Clinton that popped up was that she was on, I think

it was ProVigil or NewVigil. ProVigil. ProVigil is a it's like that stimulant that fighter pilots use to stay awake. Like it keeps you on point. It's illegal in the Olympics now because it's some sort of a performance enhancer.

So she's supposedly on that shit? Well, she's on that. It's supposed to be like the limitless pill. This is why I'm bringing this right? It's supposed to be like the limitless pill. Who said that? How would they find that out? Who let that be, guys? This is why I'm bringing this up. Snowden? This lady was telling me that her friend's husband is on Adderall. She was going off about Adderall.

She's like, my friend's husband's on Adderall. He takes it every day. And Hillary's still. Takes it every day. He takes that Adderall. He says he needs it to keep up the pace of the day. That is meth. Yes.

It's a form of meth. They've proven that it's the same as meth. It's like you're taking a controlled dose of meth the day. That is meth. They've proven that it's the same as meth. It's like you're taking a controlled dose of meth every day. How many people are out there just taking meth? You watch Breaking Bad? A lot. Yeah, but that's meth meth. How many people are out there taking Adderall? That's meth meth. Jamie, pull up

how many people are on Adderall. Say, how many people, how many prescriptions of Adderall per year? That fighter pilot drug's called what? Let's take a guess real quick. Let's take a guess. On Adderall? Yeah, how many people, how many prescriptions of Adderall per year? That fighter pilot drug's called what? Let's take a guess real quick. Let's take a guess. On Adderall? Yeah, how many people on Adderall? How many prescriptions? Because that's all you really know. How many prescriptions are written? I don't know

what that means as far as people. I think... 10%? How many million? Give me a million. How many prescriptions? 300 million. Dude, I think there's 300 million people in the States. It's 3 million. 3 million.

3 million people on Adderall? Or 1.7. I'm going to go 6 million. 6 million people on Adderall. You don't think there's way more than 6 million? Well, let's find out. On Adderall. Jamie, how many prescriptions in 2015 for Adderall?

I'm looking right now. Dude, think about that. Like the prescription drugs, how legal they are, how destructive they are, how dangerous they are. And they're totally legal. And you know what? And everyone just sits there. Everyone just sits there and is like, oh, everything's fine. I just believe everything they fucking tell me.

Did you see Arizona? That's the craziest shit ever. Right there. Did you see Arizona? They're trying to legalize weed. That's the craziest shit ever. Right there. Did you see Arizona?

They're trying to legalize weed. And the number one funder to go against the legalization of weed is from the company that makes that fucking crazy pain drug that's many times stronger than Oxycontin, fentanyl or something like that. Oh, everyone's dying from it. The shit that they think killed Prince. Fuck, man. The shit that killed Prince. That's something that Joey would say. But it is the shit that killed Prince, that's something that Joey would say. Yeah, but it is the shit that killed Prince. They said it was $500,000 this company donated in Arizona to try to stop this campaign to legalize weed. Shouldn't that be, that should be a fucking felony.

Yeah. Anything that can be considered a crime on humanity, if you can prove that, that should be a fucking felony. 100%. You can't just do that shit. That's a crime on humanity, if you can prove that, that should be a fucking felony. You can't just do that shit. That's a crime. People are fucking dying and getting crazy off these prescription drugs and no one says shit. Look at tobacco. Nobody says shit.

Look at alcohol. No one says shit. Thank God. But damn. No one say shit We gotta get out of here I gotta do a spot at the store So I gotta wrap this bitch up Bring her home

But um Fun times boys Fun times As always Find the Kid live San Jose Thursday And then Brea and Oxnard In October son

Where's the schedule You guys got right TFATK.com TFATK.com Man I really think You should come up with Look at that 16 mil, son.

I'll be in 10th Planet Decatur, Alabama this Saturday. 10th Planet Decatur, Alabama this Saturday. We found, Jamie found something. 16 million prescriptions. That was in 1999. In 99. Okay, it's way more. It's way more now.

Way more now. And that's fine. Three million. I had to laugh at that. But I was, how many people are using those 16 million prescriptions? Like how many prescriptions? Like how long does a prescription last? Do you get one every three months?

Does that mean that a person gets four prescriptions a year? So you divide that by four? No. Is that how it goes? I think you get it every 30 days. You don't do it every day either. It's every 30 days, right? You're not supposed to take it when you need them.

I think it's when you get prescribed by a doctor. Hold on, son. Just stop the nonsense. If you're hooked on Adderall, you're taking that shit every day. Yeah, but the doctor's not giving them to you to use every day. Sure they are. Yeah, I know. I was on Adderall when I was in high school.

Yeah, no, you get it for every day. Yeah. I know a guy who has an Adderall patch. He had a patch. Adderall patch? No, it was a Ritalin patch. It was a Ritalin patch that they gave him. Prozac patch?

He's on another level. No, it was a patch. No, it was a patch. It was a patch. They gave him a patch. It was some sort of, it was either Prozac patch? He's on another level. No, it was a patch. It was a patch. They gave him a patch. It was some sort of, it was either Prozac or Ritalin. But he was on Adderall as well. He tried a bunch of different things.

But he was on Adderall. Was he cool? Every day. Very cool. Very cool. But he was struggling with fatigue issues. He's not a vibrant guy. Taking a lot of naps during the day?

I don't know. I don't think he did. He hustles. He works. But I think he was having some problems. Successful dude? Yeah. Real successful dude. Good dad? Great guy. Sweet kisser.

He drives a Prius. He drives a Tesla. But he was on it every day, Jamie. They do prescribe it for some people every day. I wasn't saying that they don't prescribe. I thought they didn't prescribe it every day. I think it's a refill of 30. I think there's a lot of people that take it every day okay i was i didn't i wasn't saying that they don't prescribe i thought they didn't prescribe it every day i think it's a refill 30 no i think i think there's a lot of people that take it every day yeah that's how it's prescribed 30 because they're not going to

give you fucking 120 pills no i think i think they do i think they do and i think if you take one a day like that's how they i think they can do it i don't think it's thought of as being like the danger that it is fucking idiot or at least most people like you or I They think it's gonna help you but kids are snorting that shit and taking classes For reals for tests. I know people abuse it. I wasn't yeah. Have you ever taken it? I take it No, nothing done. I will chat your fucking air Nothing done real chatty Cathy on that shit I did it once in college I got nothing done That's hilarious

Someone coming like What are you doing? Hey where are you going? Just fucking going off man Oh my god Bad idea Well that's it Joe Schilling

Joe Schilling 187 on Twitter Joe underscore Schilling on Instagram Correct? Yes sir Dude I'm on the ball Boom I'm on the ball He's on the ball

Brendan Schaub Don't call him Brandon Brendan I'm on the ball. Boom. I'm on the ball. He's on the ball. Brendan Schaub. Don't call him Brandon. Brendan. I'm sorry about that, by the way. I'm sorry about that. I know I fuck up, but... Fuck up. It's a hard one.

We hope everybody in New York's okay. Brian Cowell's okay. And appreciate the fuck out of you people. Next one we can do with these, we'll do it. Is there one next week? Is there one next week? When's the cyborg fight? I think there's one in Brazil next week, maybe. Is that the cyborg fight? Is cyborg wearing a bitch next week? I'll check next week? When's the cyborg fight?

Is that the cyborg fight? Is cyborg wearing a bitch next week? We gotta do one for that. The Canelo fight. Do we miss it? Spoiler alert! No, no, no! Alert! Canelo fought tonight? Thank you.