The Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 6, 2025

Episode Date: September 7, 2025

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Here we are. Hey, Gordon Ryan in the fucking house. Brian Callan, Brennan, Brennan, Shob, let's go, let's go. Fike your opinion. Jamie, send me the link so I could. Did you send it to me? All right. We'll tweet it out.

to let all the folks at home. Look at Paul Felder. Looking like a guy from the 40s. Do you know what he majored in in college? Theater. That's right. Theater. Yeah, I know.

It is funny. It is funny. It is funny. He was at the comedy store one night and I was like, can you phone me at LinkedIn? Yeah. He was at the show and he was like, I was like, do you watch a lot of stuff?

He goes, well, I majored in theater. What's, Bisping did not major in theater and he's booking a ton of roles. He did the commercial I wrote. Yeah, I'm talking real roles. Yeah, your commercial was for UFC guys. He's booking, like, movies. Is he really?

Yeah, like legit movies. Bro, that guy, he's crushing it. You want to talk about a guy who has had to struggle. His fucking neck was so bad, dude. He could barely get out of bed to do podcasts and do his commentary work, and then he's in bed most of the day after that. And he has one eye. His one eye.

He's had his neck fused like three different times. I was on a plane with him when he was fucked. He was in a, he was in this right after his surgery with that, you know, know, brace. And he was miserable. I go, how are you doing? He goes, hey, you know. Bro, he's, he's been miserable for years, like, in intense pain for years. But he's better now, right? Yeah, he's, he's slightly better. We got him some, we hooked him up at Waste well. He got some, he got two knee replacements. So he's got two fake knees. He's got, his neck is all fucked up. Off from a fight tomorrow's like, I'll take it. Wow. Wow.

How about his last fight over there like, hey man, are you down to fight Gasselham in China? on eight-day notice. Yeah, right after you just lost the GSP and got dropped with the left hook. He's been fighting since he was 14, man. 14. Like, you can see video of him here. He's the face of European M.M.A.

He's at Mount Rushmore, if they had one over there. Bro, he was a beast. He was a beast in his day and fought undersized, you know, for a lot of his career at light, heavyweight. Yep. Just the fact the guy won the world title with one eyeball. I mean, imagine you got a wife and a family

in a future, you're in your 30s, you're like, well, I still have one eye. But here's my thing. It's so crazy. That's so gay. He's such a gang. I don't like that. Like, you have, like, your retina detached,

and I, like, you can go blind and the one eye you do have. And he got his retin attached in that eye, too. Yeah, so it's like, what's crazy is... That's what you're doing it. You're doing a sport where you can definitely lose that. Yeah, no, no. What's crazy, though, too, is the commissioner was like,

ah, he's good. Well, you know what he did? He memorized the fucking scale. The eyeball thing? We read, like, read the top chart. That's a junkie for fighting. That's crazy. We got to feed.

How many guys are looking for a way out all the time, you know? And this fucking guy? Yeah. Fights 10, 11 fights in the UFC with one eyeball. He's a legend. Legend. He's unbelievable. Face of him.

Mental tough. This is going to be an interesting fight. Benoit San Deney and Maricio Rufi. Yeah. Rufi is fucking crazy at 155. He's like a Brazilian Connor. but he's huge it doesn't make any sense

that he is 155 he's like 6-2 he's strong 6-2 he's huge he's on defeat in the UFC bro he wheel kicked Bobby green into another dimension he's super talent cardio's the only question hasn't fought

competition is he only 511 is he only 511? It says on Google I don't believe that Google be bullshit I think he's told on Jamie come on bro says 511 156 yeah my fantasy is 6 too I believe

he's taller than that. I've seen him standing next to like Drickus Duplice and all these other guys. He's like he's fucking tall as shit, man. Tough fight for your boy BSD in his hometown. Yes. BSD you take some chances, man. He does, but the thing is like

in striking Rufi has a giant advantage. And Rufi's not a slouch on the ground and Benoit San Deney really good at judo. Some of these guys who fight at 55 when you see them like the fact that Michael Chaser was able to make 55 at one point in his career is so ridiculous.

He walks around at 6-2, 200 pounds. They tore their fucking kidneys apart, man. Just break your fucking health. Yeah, you're drying your organs out like an old sponge. Like, yeah, you're Rodriguez at 45? That's ridiculous. Would you say Kabeb was the biggest 55er? No, Glacin.

Clayson, Tybalt. And I think that's the one guy that should have beat him. If you look at the record, you know, you look at it, like, Kabe's got an undefeated record. There's an asterisk. And that asterisk is Glacin. Glacin Teabow, that was a very fucking close fight that I thought Khabib lost. But it was early in Krabib's career.

It was before he won the title. But to your point, Khabib 55 biggest at like the championship level. Yeah, I guess. Tabal was never like world class. No. Well, he was world class, but he was never. Well, I'm talking like world class in the 55 division, like top five. He was never like tip of the spear.

Well, if you think that he almost won or could have won, He definitely could have gotten that decision over Khabi. He's right up there. But he's, you know, after a while. Early in Kibibb's career, to your point. True. There are 55ers way bigger than Krabbe. After a while, these guys, their body just can't do it anymore.

No. It's like, you know, how many fights can you have where you can still fight at your potential? Look at the size of T-Bow. That's so bad. I saw him. He was well over 200 pounds. Oh, yeah. I saw him at top team, and I couldn't believe how thick he was.

Bro, he's so thick. It made no sense. He had a perfect physique. Well, did the craziest thing to me is Pereira making he. Oh, that's the nutty. That's the nutty. That's the nuts. Hands down.

I met him. I was like a jacked 235 once and he was like way bigger than me and I was like, how the fuck does this guy make 185? And his hands? Let me take that back. He's tall to me. He's longer than me. Like, every part of him is bigger than me.

Like how does this guy make 1805? Yep, yep, yep. Rumble was crazy. Dude, I was doing warrior with him. He was 235. And I go, fighting at 170. When I say 235,

I remember I say saying to Sam Sheridan and I go, I'm sure and I go I feel bad about myself because I'm looking at fucking I didn't grow like I didn't look at him like I want to look like that I just want to look like him and he sucked down 70 it was a craziest shit ever well look at the size of him in the lower right he got juicy there's a while there he that's where I met him when he was funny at 170 I was like 12 years old what did he dive did he get sepsis or something liver something with his liver god damn it might have been liver it might have been some kind of a liver cancer or something he was so talented too he came in our gym and

like his prime and the coach was like are you right or left hand he's like whatever you want to do he's like well left or right man he's like literally whatever you want to do and he's like two hundred thirty pounds we're all oh shit oh okay organ failure due to complication some non-Hodgkins lymphoma a rare immune disorder and he had it for a long time he knew he had it that's horrible remember when he said I have to retire I'm retiring for other things yeah yeah yeah terrible and And then he died, like, shortly after that's crazy. It happened to my friend, just died, had, we didn't know, but he had bone marrow cancer. We didn't know?

And then he went to a restaurant, didn't he? Via Veneto. Yeah. Boy, Fabrizia, one of my favorite people. And he just, he stopped answering texts. And I was like, you know, what's going on? And he goes, no, I'm good, brother. I'm just taking a break from everybody, not you, but just like, you know, I'm taking a break and relaxing.

And I was like, this doesn't make sense. Turns out he was in L.A., and then I think he got septic or something like that. His family keeps it close to the best But that was a good buddy of mine But just crazy that I get a call And says, hey, he passed last night But this is Brian in a nutshell We do the show Monday

I'm like hey Benny's like good man Oh yeah My friend died Jesus Christ I don't know how to deal with it I'm not good with emotion Yeah It's hard when someone dies

Because it doesn't feel real It doesn't feel real Especially if you don't see them dead It's like what You're not there anymore I call you You don't answer My buddy calls me

And my buddy calls me and he goes, hey, man, just lay like this. He goes, hey, man, we lost Fabrizio last night. I go, what? Where is he? What are you talking about? He goes, he passed. I go, what? Because you had no clue.

I had no idea. You were such a good idea. The other day. Best food ever. They fucking released like the ZR1 X specs or Zer1 around like Nuremberg. I'm like, oh, man, let me send this to my dad. I'm like, always been fucking dead for five years. That's crazy.

You took it to another level. I'm sorry. Oh, my gosh. That's the Trump car He just My head just goes down My head just goes down Ah, never mind

Yeah, it's weird when people die It is It's very odd The ZR one's badass though Your dad would love You see that they did the Nuremberg fucking test And

It wasn't with Professor Drive Rang No it was with the engineer The Nuremberg is That's Nazi Germany You mean Nürberg ring Yeah Nebring yeah

I have no idea I have no idea I had to pronounce it. The nerve for trials. I just see it. I just see it. The one that begins with an end. I drove that ZR one, not the X, but the regular one.

I drove it around Kota. It's fucking incredible. It's incredible. It's like 1,100 horsepower. It sounds like just like the perfect vehicle. It sounds so good. It feels so good. It's got such handling.

It's so good, dude. You loved it? You loved it? You loved it. Does it have a traction issue? No. No. Giant-ass.

fucking wheels mid-engine giant-ass tires did the widest tire you can buy on a production automobile but joe would drive that shit then he calls me i'm like oh and you figure out a way to get one they sell some shit he too it's such a good car they they nailed it man it's like they first of all they nailed it with the mid-engine with the corvette the c-8 and then this is that times a thousand i remember one time i don't know anything about cars and joe pops the hood of this new Porsche he had and he kind of like he went like this the way you do a magic trick he goes like that and and i was like oh man i was like and you said something about it being dual aspiration i was like dual you know what i said dual aspiration

you just made up a term yeah i was like dual it has aspirations it's inspirational it was some dual thing i was like oh man it's got two lungs instead of one my car has one one he just pick he picks up yeah that's what i heard i heard dual aspiration all right so this is the first fight. Gomes is very good. He's from France. That's that dude right there. Very good striker. And then who is this gentleman? Some white guy.

That guy looks like him. They plucked him right out of Kentucky. Poland or Kentucky. I've never been to Paris. I've had us lay over there once. I have no desire to go. Great city. Great city. I've no desire to go. How do you say that the name? Rachala.

Ruchala. Ruchala. Ruchala. anybody who's fighting in France usually isn't French it's like by way of like Russia you know what I mean Armenia yeah France is very heavy in terms of its immigration

yes a lot of immigrants including Francis Francis and Gano that's where he went Oh that's right But even with Imov You know that was the buildup to this fight They're like he's not really French You know he's originally Dagestan

Yeah or Russian maybe right I think Dagestan yeah your fave Yeah my favorite Every time there's a Dagestan knocking somebody out He's like a jerking off Callan huh All over those daggy nuts.

You're working off their nuts, man. Look at the way they control, their top control, their flow wrestling, their transitions. How about that guy sent you guys in the text message chain today? That young kid, the Moitai kid. That axe kick, that axe kick. The thing about that kid, though, is I don't think he's a grappler. I think it's just Muay. That's why he's fighting in one.

It's always weird when you see a daggy and he's good at stand-up and not wrestling. What the fuck you've been doing? How about that? Yeah, well, that's share a bullet at 1-45. Six foot at 1-45 was kind of bananas. Oh, Sherr Bullets fighting Apollo Costa. Oh, that's a good. Here's another guy with one eye.

Yeah. Share a bullet's out of his fucking mind. Yep. He's a big boy. How the fuck he passed? What's the commission doing? You're good. He doesn't fight in America.

Where we have rules. No, didn't he fight? I don't think he fought in America yet. I don't believe so. Did he? I think you're right. I don't believe he's fought in America. They're like, you just stay out there.

I thought it's going to be tricky for Homslaught to fight here. But once Trump became president, they say, come on him, buddy. First round. If you want to sync up to us, it's 452, 451, 450, 449, 448. Here we go, first round. This is a very good card, though. Great card. Especially the last two fights.

Oh. For the locals, too, like, there's a bunch of big names in France on here. Like, if you're watching local MMA, all the top stars on this card. They stack this one, right. Yo, our bar, Kentucky can move. Is he from Kentucky? It is now. Gordon, you should take a couple of MMA fights, just turtle up.

And they've all been in Abu Dhabi. Yeah. Yeah. They're all in a part of the world. Like, my friend, not a problem. Not a problem, my friend. He did film a movie in Hollywood, though, so they allowed him to do that. Yeah, they allowed him.

Come over here briefly. And he was a pirate. They probably put an ankle monitor on him. 100%. He's not hard to find. That's true. That's true. Red bearded guy with one eye.

Was it, you know. Yeah, his only hiccup was Michael Venom Page. Well, that just shows you how fucking good Michael Venom Page is. That's the puzzle. I like MVP at 85. Yeah. I love my 85. Yeah, man.

The Canineer fight, I was like, oh, the size, this is where he might meet his match. We're like, man, he fucked him up. But the third round, canoneer got him on his back. And that's on MVP. Like, if you have a guy at that caliber hurt, fucking finish him, dude. Don't wait around.

How about Cannonier at 42? He looks like he's made a metal. He is. Hand me that lighter, buddy. It's interesting with MVP because he's, like, so hard to take down because he always has down block hands. Yeah. So all the punches come from the bottom.

And he also has a downblock. Yeah. But then once he actually gets put on bottom, he didn't, he couldn't get up. Those guys with that point fighting style are so hard to touch because they're so used to playing that tag game. And their ability to close distance is nuts. Yeah, when you're an athlete, like him, his speed. Oh, I mean, accuracy, too. I mean, he makes everybody look stupid.

He made Kevin Holland look stupid. It just looks stupid. I wonder what they do with him at 85, though, because you start going towards those upper echelon guys. It gets dicey. Well, it's going to be interesting to see. You know, it's going to be interesting to say. As long as he doesn't fuck around like he did in the third round with Cannoneer, I think people are going to have a really hard time even touching him.

Early on, for sure. He's just so fun to watch anyway. I would keep him as, he's just so entertaining. No, dude, there's so many super fights for it. 100%. Did you see what he say in the cannoneer? Calm down. Chill, bro.

I know. The middle of the fight. I know. After he punched him in the face, chill. Chill. Chill. Like, what do you do that? Nothing.

The guy just punches him in the face. And he's telling you to chill. And you swing in air because it's just like, oh, God. Think how good Ian Machado Gary is. I know. People sleep on Ian. He's such a beast man. Yeah, you can't.

Well, it just showed you how good Shavkat is. Yeah. Right? The only guy that's ever beat him by decision. Yeah. I mean, that was a good fight. They're doing Shavkat versus Sean Brady. That's a good fight.

I love that fight. That's a real good fight. That's a real good fight. I'd like to know what injury Shavkot had that led him to not take the title shot. Wild. Yeah. I mean, it must have been a serious. Yeah.

He had served. I know he had surgery, but apparently before the Machado fight, he was not going to take that fight. Like, he's that injured. But he took that fight, won that fight, and then had to get surgery. He had a lot of hype, too, and then just kind of like, zh. Yeah, people forget, man, there's so many good dudes, you know, those Carlos protest is coming up. How about that fucking knockout of Jeff Neal? Now he's fighting Leon Edwards.

Oh, pretty sure it's on Mass Square. Is it Mass Square Garden, Jamie? Pross is so much taller than I thought. Get you some with that. Oh, my goodness. for Leon. That's a tough fight. That kid's an animal. Prattas at smoking cigarettes, drinking. I can't. And Machado Gary beat him.

Yep. Beat him. People sleep on Ian. He had Machado hurt, though. He dropped him, remember? Is it Madison Square Garden? So Brady's fighting Shavcott? Yeah. Wow. I like that fight a lot. Brady's a little baby gorilla. Brady was impressive when he fought Leon.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He did most of the things right to keep him down. Yeah, and he's got like extra layers. of muscle on his back that make him look like a turtle Yeah He was his loss to

Who is his loss to? Bala Mahalah Bilal stop He got beat up bad You can that fight But he learned from it Edwards versus Pratt's Dude how about Pratt is just smoking

Sigs Yeah I know it's crazy Party It's like Joe Schilling I love it It's like whole persona is basically Like I want to prove You can be degenerate

Yeah He still fuck people like Well he can Yeah He's doing it He's that good But also Over 100 fights

Really? Yeah Really tie kickboxing, MMA, over 100 fights. You're a talented cat. Under 30. Come on.

Right? How old is he? How old is protest? I think he's 28. That's like those Russian amateur fighters. 32? Yeah. Oh, is he really?

Yeah. It's like Russian boxers. Their amateur careers will be like 150 fights before they even turn pro. Bro, the craziest guys are the ties. Boolcock just fought recently. He's 43. I think he has 287 fights.

So insane. What? So insane. But I think he had 287. But that's boxing in general, and kickboxing in general. Like, even the state, that's typically how it is. Like, those young dudes have so many amateur fights, but we're used to the Jake Pauls and this shit and people just jump to the top where it's kind of watering it down.

Yeah, they're brought up with people that are at their level slowly, especially with boxing. Speaking of boxing, what do you think about, like, next weekend? Can't wait. Oh, Canelo Crawford. See, I don't think it's to be that entertaining of a fight. What makes you say that? Why? I mean, I guess if Crawford

takes some chances, but he's jumping up such a high weight class? Canello by decision? I'll tell you what, though. Crawford looks thick. You see the photos of him that he put on his Instagram? He's got big legs.

I know. He's fucking jacked. I don't think that makes him faster? That's a good question. You think it makes them faster? That's a good question. Piss does, how dare you? I'm not sure.

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see dKNG.co slash audio. Look at that. Cowan's jerking off to this later. I am. 100%. I have a bono that could cut glass right now. There's a photo on one of the websites that shows him at when he's fighting at 47, ripped versus him fighting now at 68 ripped,

and he definitely looks thicker. He looks quite a bit thicker. Technical, he's better than Canello. I just don't see him being Canello. I don't know if he's better technically. Cannell's pretty good. Pound for pound, number one, the world. He's so good.

Crawford's so good. What he did to Errol Spence is unbelievable. But then also remember, Crawford hasn't fought in two years. Is it that long? Yep. He's greatness, though. Madrimov was two years ago? Well, the thing about Errol Spence, though, you've got to remember,

Errol Spence crashed his Ferrari and flipped it and flew out and landed on his head. Like, he got fucked up in that car accident. I know, but I don't think it had any do it. I think Crawford's just got a higher fight. Nah, I had to do something with it. A guy that gets that fucked up. Crawford's so good. Like, he does that to everybody.

Yeah, Crawford's so good. No doubt. He was like he was ejected from his Ferrari. Yeah. Lathen on his skull. It is crying. It was like he was fun. Go back to that.

You can't take that consideration. Callan, you need to take a screenshot of that and bring it into the bathroom. It's burned in my mind. It's burning into the bathroom later. I'll start crying. That's fantastic. When you come, you're going to cry. I'm full of shame.

As you're coming. Oh, no. And then I'll watch it. Then I'll look. look at it again and then you look at yourself in the mirror think about in boxing so you got canello crawford you got mike tyson floyd mayweather that's happening and they have jake paul giovante davis that's the state of boxing that's crazy let that sink in that's boxin right now 135 versus 200 that is so nuts they all they're all exposition

none of them are yeah they're exhibitions but what does that mean just means you don't really nobody wins they're not right it's kind of i mean it's weird i don't want jake to assume me they're not it's not like a real scrap it's not real really so they're not trying to knock each other no mike tyson and mayweather don't like each other they have not liked each other they have not liked each other yes but they like mike tyson and mayweather don't like each other if there's a fight that might be real like where mike tyson might say i'm going to knock this motherfucker out or i'm going to try to knock this mother it would be floyd they wouldn't yeah because if you look at like the jake paul fight no disrespect and if you look at the

Roy Jones fight, no disrespect. They looked like they were sparring. Yeah. Right? It looked like there was agreements made. Working. I do not know if Mike would honor any of those agreements.

Really? If there was a moment to crack. If there was a moment to really, could he hit him? I mean, that little motherfucker can move still. At 50 years old, he's so slick. Yep. He's still in shape.

He's still fit. They're both old as fuck. Old as fuck. But this is the boxing. How old is Mayweather? 67? Dude, Bernard Hopkins, Bernard Hopkins was still at the best in the world at 50. Yep.

I mean, that's incredible. That doesn't mean shit, though. With this. Because he was active fighting contenders. Kentucky's got Gomez on the ground. You're talking about two retired guys. Yeah. That's so weird.

It's just money grabs. It's so weird, though. Yeah, it is weird. It's money grabs. I don't like it, but it's fun. You know, it's something to watch. I'll hate on it, but I tune in. Yeah, I'll tune it.

It's, you know, but it's not really fighting. So Jake Paul is not going to actually be trying to knock out of your rod. The reason says exhibitions. If I had a guess. Yeah. The event itself would be a world-class venue be presented a global audience with new in-ring technology elements that will reshape how

boxing is presented and scoring is achieved for years to come. What does that mean? That shit has Abu Dhabi written all over. What does that mean? This is Tyson versus Mayweather. What does that mean? Where are they doing that? Are they doing that in Saudi Arabia? But of course. But of course. Because they have all the money. My friend. And they just go, what do you want to see? I'd always like to see

Floyd Tyson. Who wants to fight an alligator? He's looking, he's so much money. They got that oil money, dog. I'm really curious about Crawford-Kinello. Because they're actually kind of the same size, same height. They're not the same size. They're not the same size.

They look pretty much the same size. Once it made a career fighting that much heavier weight, it would be like a 135 or jump up to 170. They're the same size. Frame-wise. Yeah, but one guy made a career, fighting at 175. But right now, they're made a fight at 45. Right now, they kind of are the same size.

Well, right now. But one's a naturally gifted bigger guy and has competed at world-class level at that heavy weight. So you can't say they're the same size. You're going to change your game when you go up that much. Yeah, you're not going to be as fast. He had to put on a lot of weight. And one made a career at that weight comes.

The other one's just doing it for a money grab. He has a fight in two years. Well, he was doing it for legacy, and he is, he is like, he prepared for this. It's not like he just went, how to fight at 140. then jumped up to 68, three months later. Yeah. Like he really... That's a big jump, though, isn't it?

He did a lot of training. Put weight on, like real weight. Yeah. We'll see. I'm interested in that. Yeah. Just because I think Crawford's that good. I just don't think...

I think this is a problem with boxing. They built these things up like, you know, Jake and Tyson and people think to me this great product or Crawford and Canelo. And it's not... There's not much action. Bro, I'll tell you who's the real fucking deal. Moses. Moses It's Toma.

Do you know who that motherfucker is? The giant... That 20-year-old heavyweight? Oh, yes. Bro. Did you see what he did to Dillian White? Yes, he's a problem. He's a problem.

Yeah. That guy's a real problem. Is he only 20? 20 years old. He's just slightly older than Tyson was when he won the title, so he can't be the youngest guy to ever win the title. Damn. This motherfucker is so fast. He moves like a middleweight. Here's it, Tom.

Watch this guy. That's that Samoan, Samoan or whatever it is. Bro, look at the fucking skill. it's the skill the movement back and forth no joke either Dylan White's no joke look at the shit I'll be nice if he said his name right it's Dillian but it's all right bro he tune this guy up

one round man I mean again White is past his prime he's also gotten beat up White's gotten yeah sure Tyson Fury beat him up a lot of guys beat him up but this is the test you want for this young contender it's the way he did it he did it like I'm a world champion mop the floor with yeah didn't Deontte Wilder

starts him as well oh I don't know if they fought. I don't know if Deonté fought Dillian money. They're trying to do Deonté Wilder Francis. They're talking shit to each other. Take my fucking money. See, that's not an exhibition. The MMA boxing, take my, that, take my fucking money.

But Crawford. Canella's not an exhibition bubble. Who do you think it's knocked out in that one? At this stage of the game? I don't. You know what the problem with Wilder is? He did all that ayahuasca. He's too friendly. Whenever someone does too much ayahuasca,

I'm like, oh, he's losing. Or any ayahuasca. If you want to be a fighter? He did the interview at one time, and he's like, I just, I lost it. I lost the killer and think the killer. Really? Ayahuasca took his darkest. That happens a lot of guys.

Really? Yeah, they come back and they're just like too sweet. Some say all of them. My buddy just came back from doing a 10-day ayahuasca retreat. He's made billions of dollars. And he goes, I go, how was it? He was intense. And I go, oh, that's cool.

And he goes, I just have a deeper appreciation for my friends. Fuck you. Did you say that? It was great. He goes, I thought about you. I was like, oh, boy, this is getting awkward. I was great. thing by you should say hey give me some money yeah i know why he's still high i love it pay my mortgage

before i'm sorry before the swears off cut me a check hey do you tell roguer that time you did ialaska not it was mushrooms i don't want to get any of that what'd you do no no hey it just it got real bad tell him i literally did the god dose or whatever he didn't mean to he did i did three grams and i was in mother's vagina and then i did four more grams because i was invited to take more medicine and the sun sucked me into his mouth and spit me out into one of the upper rings of hell no no but tell what you're doing in real life and don't tell me what the word you're saying so i'm going to just say this i i i i was uh i apparently i was because i thought i was in hell apparently for four hours i was asking for a manager i was asking to speak to a manager yeah because i needed to get

out of there because i need to speak i'm not supposed to be in hell i don't believe i'm a good person i just tripped into a portal i need to get home but hell wrote him the realtor he was curled in a ball naked. I don't want to get in that. Farting. Perfusely. Farting. My buddy goes, you were in the fetal position farting so loud. Yeah. You're screaming. And screaming this word we can't say.

Screaming a lot of different words that you're not allowed to say. I'll tell you off. Dude, when he told me, I was like, what that's what they're illegal? Dude, I don't remember anything. I don't remember anything. And they tried to get me to do it. I'm like, get the fuck out of you.

You know what I learned? Don't do mushrooms anymore when I did this don't do seven grams when you're troubled you made me eat a whole chocolate bar on this podcast you see that you see that if you look at me in the video I'm like this it had to had to be done yeah but that's like three three is a three is a reasonable you get to around five and things get very straight then you start meeting aliens Joe now you stop alcohol yeah are you smoking more weed allegedly mm hmm choose how it goes I thought you stopped Smoking weight. I don't know why.

Maybe. They got to make that shit legal. I got to talk to the big guy. Donald, you want to make some friends? Tex-o. This is how you go. This is how it goes. You want to make some real friends?

They won't know what to do. See what he's doing right now? In Chicago? This is one of the funniest things ever. They are now saying they're going to look into taking gun rights away from transgender people. So what happens now is liberals have to defend gun rights. I love it. I know. It's genius.

This is like the ultimate trap. This is like the ultimate trap. It's like, do they fall into this? It's like the name and the guy sweating with the two buttons. It's like, first of all, he says things that he doesn't mean. Like, it's wild when a president says, we're looking into taking away Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship. You can't do that. I saw a meme yesterday.

It was like, imagine Rosie O'Donald moves to Ireland to escape Trump, and then McGregor just becomes the leader. He does very well, Mike. He really might win. I saw some video he posted, like, campaigning for it's at, like, 50 million views. Yeah. Apparently, he has, like, 60% in the poll. Wait, who's this? Connor McGregor, being the president of Ireland.

Wow. You know that motherfucker? It's basically Arnold Schwarzenegger, but for us, for the UFC. You know, movie star, two-time world champion. Now he becomes president. Actor, that's what I'm saying. Well, there's a real movement, you know, in England and in Ireland because of this sort of, like, unchecked immigration. Well, dude, Elon's gone off the fucking chain, too.

Yeah. Elon's making posts like, you guys got to fight back. Oh, yeah, man. Because people are getting arrested in England just for posting stuff on social media about it. Bro, they are arresting. They are arresting thousands of people in England. Didn't they say 1,400 a day? Who was on my podcast.

Yeah. He left my podcast, went back to England and they arrested him. Oh, wow. Graham Linahan. I just had time. Tommy Robinson on line. You know Tommy Robinson is? Yeah.

So he got arrested for the same thing for a documentary and I just had him on. He got arrested for a documentary? Yes, dude. He did 18 months. What? He just got out. What was the documentary about? It was basically about his hometown, which he grew up to.

It started out with one mosque and now there are 49 in his hometown of Lutton. I think it's called Lutton. And basically just talking about the grooming gangs and stuff. It is crazy what they're doing. It's insane. Did you see the hiking men? immigration, the hiking band that they have in Canada. Yeah.

What is it too much? It was a hiking man. You can't go for climate change. Are you fucking kidding? I watched a video yesterday. They find you $28,000. Fuck on. Of a veteran, like, takes a video like, hey, I'm with the guys here.

I'm not on camera because they're not allowed to record them. But they said that if I walk into the woods here, I'm going to get a $28,000 fine. Are you fucking kidding? So he takes a video of him. He walks three feet into the woods, walks out. And then there's a video of him at the desk saying, it's a 28,000. It was like a $25,000 fine plus like $3,000 in like taxes and victim fees. Canada's so full of, Canada is such a mess.

Well, they are what we can be if we're not careful. If you have the wrong people running the country. Leon Omar, if all these tights, I mean, if it got to a point where some of these people, if you took away the natural born citizenship thing, like if you could be a president and never born in America, we'd be fucked. Super fucked. We'd be fucked. Because we're already fucked when they become mayors and, and, and. and when they become governed, if that starts happening, you're just going to import people from all over the world, and they're going to take whatever their country is and make that state it. Let me ask you this. Is it true that when you have, so if you have a bunch of illegal immigrants in your town, your your, your census numbers go up?

Yes. So, so congressional seats. Right. So the way it works is the census only counts how many human beings. It doesn't count how many illegal aliens. No, it doesn't care. It doesn't matter. That's what's going on. So that's why they were moving people in with buses.

So that's why they moved all these people to swing states. you're basically rigging these areas. And then they were trying to offer a pathway to citizenship and allow those people to vote, which would have completely rigged all the swing states. Wow. Yeah. I mean, Elon talked about it pretty extensively and documented it. It's a real thing.

And people push back about it. It's a dangerous conspiracy theory. But it's not because the census counts people. And the more people you have, the more congressional seats you get. If they just eliminated that, the Democrats would be cooked. I don't know if that's even legal, though. I think constitutionally it's basically the way it's set up it's supposed to be the amount of people it's not supposed to be the amount of legal citizens which it should be congressional seats I mean come on

it should be citizens especially when you're just opening up the border and you allow 20 million people to come in over a period of four years that is a massive percentage of the population of the united states nuts like 20 20 people it's like it's so much a huge percentage of the original population yeah Tommy Robinson told me 43 percent I don't know if this is true but I think it's something like 43% of the immigrants that come into the UK, and I think in Europe in general, are on the dole, but especially in the UK. So they're on the dole. They're literally on welfare. Yep.

And the main problem is that a lot of these people from certain countries don't assimilate. No. Because they are, you know, Islamic first, and then, you know, and essentially the whole idea is to get a caliphate, create a caliphate in the UK, which is insane. Yeah, that's what's happening. What's really insane is that they're doing it. But the thing is, like, who's allowing them? to happen. And what's the end goal? Did you see the new lady who apparently was just the

just got elected in the UK for like border patrol and it's just like her with Arabic or Farsi or whatever it is written behind her? Oh yeah, she wants surreal law. It's completely bananas. What? Yeah. This is the problem. It's like you want to assimilate great. It doesn't matter

where you're from, what your religion, who cares? But if you want to start overthrowing the very country that you're emigrating into, I mean, that's that's the problem is if you say something against it, then oh, you're racist. Yeah. I was having a conversation. with Constantine Cason. I'm not racist. I grew up in the Arab world.

I'm the farthest thing from, I love, I grew up with the Arabs and Muslims, so don't, you can't call me that, but that's fucking crazy. That's what every racist says. I'm not racist. Yeah, everybody, every racist. Here's the difference, though. Can I just say this? Yeah.

The biggest thing that the left does is this. You say there's a problem, which is a legit problem. You say, you know, London's now a minority country, there's these young Muslim men, for example, who are not assimilating and are becoming militant and fundamentalist. Okay, you say something like that. What then a leftist will say is they'll go, instead of like debating that issue, which is a problem, you're just stating a problem,

okay? They will say, oh, you're Islamic-phobic, you're xenophobic, and you're racist. So they diagnose you. They kind of, they're stealing this from Nick Fretas, by the way, so shout out to Nick Fretes, but that's what they'll do. They'll diagnose the person and their personality

and their character, not, they'll step outside of the debate. Yeah. So you can't have a conversation with people like that. No, no, you can't. I'm not, I'm just... But that's why it's scary, though, is because there's no talking point. There's no common ground that you can...

Discussion. You can't agree on anything. Right. So it's like, if I'm over here and you're over here, and we both can't meet somewhere in the middle, like men can't get pregnant. Exactly. At some point, you just have to fight. Right.

Because I'm going to stop it and call you a transphobe and turn my back on. You've got a divorce, or you have to fight. But don't you think that this is on purpose? I think it's to keep each other at each other's throats. It's to keep us in chaos so that they can implement more control. And it's working. Yeah. Well, is it?

Or are we starting to get wise to the fact that we're all being gamed? It's a battle. Yeah. It's a battle. Are the masses getting wise to it, though? Well, it's working on a lot of people. There's a lot of people that are just falling right in. They're falling right in line.

And, you know, and if you tell them that they're homophobic or xenophobic or transphobic, they'll do whatever the fuck they can to avoid that label. And so then they fall right into your trap. Although Trump did get elected and it seems like that that argument by the left is starting to lose a lot of it. Yeah, but he only elected by half the country, right? The other half the country didn't want them. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people.

So it worked on a lot of people. They were in the process of implementing a plan. And that plan, if it worked, would have made this country a one-party state. But disliking Trump and disliking those policies are two different things, right? So there are people that are conservative who don't like Trump. There are people that are moderate Democrats or Republicans who don't like Trump. My question is, you would know this better. How much of this stuff online is real?

Is real? Bots. Bots, how much? A huge percentage. Really? Still. It is like the opposite of real life. An FBI analyst said his money is 80% of the people that are posting on Twitter are bots.

What? Posting what, though? Just political shit? All kinds of stuff. Everything. Climate, politics, race, gender. China just got busted using chat GPT to run a host of different accounts, a bunch of different accounts that were all posting about USAID being shut down. They were posting about.

LBGTQ plus TA whatever the fuck issues just to divide us more just to divide us more so Brian Shaw told me that he posted a picture of him and Jordan Peterson he always gets a lot of you know he's a strong man and he said that he was getting all this like immediately just all these comments that were like how could you do this and stuff like that then he go to the profile and be like this is this doesn't feel like it's real yeah not a real person it's not a real person there's a giant percentage on Instagram a giant percentage on Facebook and on Twitter that are not real And it's legal, and you can do it, and I bet we do it too.

I bet corporations do it. I bet human. You can crowd fund, by the way, like say if Brian Cowan, if you, like, you hated Brendan Schaub, it shouldn't be the fighter and the kid. It should be the kid and the kid. Just me. Everybody agrees. You could literally go to a company and have them attack Brendan Chob, and you would pay for it, and they would use their boss. That's been done before on me.

Yeah, I'm sure. But it can be done on anyone. That's the point. is like any whatever your goal is say let's get rid of all red lights no more no more traffic lights you could do that you could have whatever the fuck you want have a bunch of fake people protest what a waste of fucking time you know you can't but it's not really it's not really it's well i guess it does sway with dumb people yeah especially if have a country doing it like china can do it to us correct but we can't do it to them right so we can't get into their system

they just they they have whatever they want the people know oh well we're in their own property And they run it against us, which is that might be the least of our problems. We let them buy land around military bases. They own a shit ton of land. My friend had his company attack that way. The biggest issue of China is definitely AI. Yeah. Yes.

The AI is like the next Manhattan project. But those two dudes you had on here with AI, they're saying we're actually still a step ahead of them. I don't know if they know. Did I summarize that? Yeah, you're right. They said that at the time, but I don't know if they know. Because here's the thing. They steal all the data from open AI.

They steal data from like GROC just got infiltrated by this guy who stole their shit allegedly and then sold it to Open AI and Open AI got infiltrated allegedly by China Like these you've got all these Chinese nationals that are over here working Yeah, that's how I was saying. Yeah, they're into the AI engineers and technicians. They're Chinese nationals. Yeah, because remember when we had Tulsi Gabbard This was like the biggest problem America's facing for sure 100% because we had Tulsi Gabbar on the podcast where I was like yeah Russian what I say Russian hacker I kept talking about Russian hackers, and she's like, hey, off the air, she's like, just so you know, we're better at hacking than they are. We have better hackers. So this whole thing keep talking about with Russians. I don't know, I kept saying Russians.

She was like, America actually has way better people to hack all that shit. But it's an arms race. It's an AI race. Yeah. The thing is, they're all together. It's the government with the corporations in China. They're all in lockstep. They're not like in battle with their corporations.

Corporations do what the government says. Exactly. Well, they tried that over here with Facebook. Like when Facebook, the FBI clamped down on them, told them to get rid of the Hunter Biden laptop story. And they did it. Well, they didn't at Facebook. They kind of limited the reach, but Twitter, they completely blocked it. But the other thing that they did was they told them to get rid of factual information about COVID.

Factual information. The government was contacting Zuckerberg. Why do you think that is? Because they did want vaccine hesitancy because they wanted to make more money. They wanted more people. Is it money? Or did they believe that the vaccine was saving lives? Money.

For sure, money. For sure. Really? Look at you. You're so cute. They just want to save lives. He's still one of those. No, Brian's still one of those guys.

I'm adorable. There's not a goddamn thing the government does. I really am. It's not a goddamn thing the government does for you. For you make your life better. Everything they do is to either get elected, raise more money, campaign, like more money, like raising money for causes. It's their own agenda.

You see in the UK now, they're like, like they're like we're going to deal we have a we have a solution to deal with mass immigration we're going to digital IDs so it's like they created an issue yeah and then they're and then they're going to give you a solution to give them more that's why what you think is how much fucking money do they yes down but what you just said what you just said about the government whether it's true or not that's a very important thing to keep to believe I have represented Luna on the podcast you know what she said to make sure we were talking about certain issues she goes they don't want to resolve those issues

because they could fundraise against them course how about they literally don't they don't reach resolutions but my question Joe is how much money do they need like well they always need money every week but my thing is like Pelosi like how much money is that big heavy bitch out she has the biggest it's like a half a billion half a billion and she just keeps going 400 million yeah well her that's her husband I mean he's a he's always been an investor you know yeah but the way he's doing is the way he's doing his insider trade right it doesn't mean it's not it doesn't mean it's all on the up and up obviously you know but I'm just saying how How much, how long does she need to go?

She's 82 years old. The answer to that is that government will continue to grow like a leviathan. And it does, what does it do? Well, that's why they want two parties here. They want no common talking ground between the two parties, so we just keep fighting. Well, that might be good. You want government to fight each other, right? You want this divide and conquer thing, so government moves at a glacial pace.

That would be the idea. Right? But government is the issue. Yeah. Remember when Elon was trying to start the American, the American wing? Remember that? He's like not Democrat Yeah, third party is never really

It's hard First of all, I don't think you're allowed to name it I think we looked into that You're not allowed to name your party The America party Because you can't call it America Because then if you go against it

You're going against America That's fair It's like the Patriot Act The genius of the Patriot Act Was I mean, I understand what What the fuck What Elon's gonna do

I don't know how that's gonna work In effect Like if he starts another party Oh there we go It's back Here we go You'll see he's leaving ESPN, ESPN said, won't you guys suck on this room? Is that staff on his tit right there?

Has he got staff on his teeth? Looks like a bruise. He's got something, but it doesn't... Could be a big toe to the titty. It doesn't look like staff. No. Staff is usually raised. It just looks kind of red.

It doesn't really look raised from here, but I can't tell. The worst one ever was Kevin Lee. Remember when Kevin Lee went to the aisle? He had like this welt. He had, like, makeup on it. Yeah. Was that when he fought Tony? Was it that fight?

That could be anything. That doesn't look raised, though. Dude, how about Tony got a win the other night? I can't see a YouTuber. I heard that staff doesn't come from the matter. It comes from the person you're rolling with. What's up, Jamie? Oh, that is staff.

That's staff. Oh, that's 100% staff. See the little whitehead up top? That's a pretty much of that fight. Wow. But if you're an antibiotics, I think it's 24, 36 hours. You're not contagious anymore. It's just going to drain your fucking cardio.

Damn. How effective is topical solutions on something like that? Do you have to take systemic? So I actually just had staff like a month ago. Of course you did. You've had it a thousand times. And I was like, and I actually I actually used fucking grok

to help me cure it without antibiotics. Really? So I had it on my back and I put the topical clindomysin pad and there's like liquid clandemison that you can like just rub on there and then there's a pad so I doused a pad in clindomysin and I taped the clindamison pad to my back

and then I broke one of those heating pads and I tape the heating pad to my back because staff, once you start getting above body temperature, it doesn't replicate. Yeah, like, I think it dies like 140 or 150 degrees somewhere around there. So getting a sauna. But, yeah, the problem is that you have to, it's

sustained over time. Like, you can't sit in 150 degree sauna for 24 hours. Right, right, right. So I kept the heating pad on there, and I would just change it like five, six times a day, change the pad, and it went away in like two weeks. It took a little bit longer, but I didn't have to take any oral. How's your stomach? And I'm like, wow, I wish I could, I wish I knew this 10 years ago.

I've rid of my fucking life. Fuck. How's your tummy? It's terrible. It is still? Yeah. I haven't been able to do like a hard session since like early 2024. Damn.

I just start dry heaving every time my heart rate goes up. Fuck. So I'm just like a skinny fat guy now. That's so nuts. Jesus Christ, dude. Have you tried fasting? Have you ever tried that? I've been forced fasted.

Like I just haven't been able to eat for two weeks. And I'm like... You haven't eaten anything in two weeks or just a little bit? Like just nothing. I just wasn't able to eat. Like just... Could only drink water. Yeah.

I was, uh... Like before I fought Roberto Jimenez, I was actually had to go to the hospital because I couldn't drink water or eat for two weeks. And I was in the hospital like three days before. You couldn't drink water? Oh, no. Just like two nauseous to get anything, keep anything. That is so nuts. I just like went to the hospital, got an IV, and then like flew to go.

Compete. All right. Here we go. What do we got here? Sola and McKee. You're standing straight up. You got to get at least one of them a nickname now. I feel like we're...

Yeah. that guy who so mckee is the guy with the tattoos yeah solo's gonna be a big fan favorite because he's a champion in a lower league out there oh is he yep they put a bunch of those cats on him so paris didn't or friends didn't even have m-m.a till really fairly recently around 10 years ago yeah because when francis was over there, there was no MMA, yeah. You couldn't fight there. And then finally they got, PFL did events in

Africa. And he didn't show up. Because he said they didn't use any like regional guys. That's why he wouldn't show up? Yeah. Really? Yeah, he was like, no, you didn't use any of my fucking guys. Wow. I think there's a chance Oh, nice shot. I think there's

a chance Francis comes back to the UFC now. I don't think there is. Why you say that? I don't think Dana wants that. All right. Well, you know. Dana had a bad experience with him. He didn't enjoy working with him But you don't think there's a chance Some of the other shot callers there go Dude, we can get him back Perhaps.

Him versus John? At the White House? Yeah. Or in Spanil. John on the White House card? I think John does the White House. I bet not. Dana goes, they go, what's the chance he goes? One in a billion.

Did he really say that? Yeah, he was one in a billion. I saw that. John responded with a great answer. He did have a great. Saying there's a chance. You're saying there's a chance. You're saying there's a chance. I'm a one of billion guys.

That's exactly what I thought when I saw it. And I was like, I was like, oh, so there's a chance. There's a chance. Yeah, 100%. This guy's getting caught. Good news is John's most recent case has been dropped, which is excellent. Yep. He wasn't even there, apparently.

I don't know. I only go with what my phone says, all right? Oh, I think I'm always with my phone. Listen, I think there should be a place. I think there should be a place in this country. that has no law one city just one city with no law just go to Mexico just maybe it's Albuquerque just one place with no law just like or maybe like a little gray area in between the states about the purge just 24 hours where there's just have one place where you can just

get buck wild well you can go down to Tijuana dude you can just live like talk to go to Mexico I mean but Ed Calderon I was listening to that podcast fuck that's a crazy podcast that that dude has seen it all. I can't imagine what he's actually seen. 37 assassinations in the last Mexican elections. Yeah, but they all dab. But all those politicians, they dabble with the cartel. So it's not like they're innocent. No, no, no, no. They're not

dabbling. They are all cartel members. That's what I'm saying. That's what's true. Well, do you have it in Germany? Yeah, they're all involved. Yeah. Seven of the right wing cabinets had just been, had just died. Yeah, then I looked into it. There's no foul play here. I'm like, but that's seven. That's a lot. Yeah. No foul play. Don't worry about it. But my thing when you had

Ed on, A, I'm never going to Mexico again. But B, fucking never, never, but B, too, I sent my wife that because she wants to take the kids of Mexico because she's from there. It's never fucking happening. And so I sent to that podcast. But when he was like, yeah, Trump's, you know, they have the drones, like, kind of following the cartel and all that to get information on him. And like, they're going to do something. They're sending people in there. But when he was saying the cartels, like in the government and the police units, they're everywhere, it's like, okay, so you're going to take out the henchmen.

That does nothing. Well, Calderon said... So my summarization of that podcast was like, oh, well, Mexico's fucked. There's nothing you can do. You're never going to get rid of it. It's too ingrained in the community. But Buckele, look what Buckeley did. He treated it like...

And it's also ingrained here. Like, when you go to Afghanistan, like, we're so far separated that it's not really... There's no saving it. Like the cartel can come up here and fuck with us. Correct. Well, Calderon said the only way to deal with it is treated like it's an insurgency. And, you know, when they had that conservative guy in charge, They actually did a lot to cripple the cartels.

But unless you treat it like an actual civil war, where you've got to treat it like this is a real insurgency. They have so much money. They buy so many politicians. They buy so many people. It's so difficult to beat them at this point. Because we let it get so bad. Mexico let it get so bad that when you have 37 people get assassinated in one election.

But how's that not on, if CNN wants to break some news, How's that not on the tracker at all fucking times? No, you have to hear it from me. You have to hear it on this spot. Did you hear this influencer, this TikTok influencer, killed her, her husband, and her 7-year-old and 13-year-old wrapped him in plastic, and put him in a truck. Did you hear about this? No.

This is a week ago. See, that's what I'm saying. In Mexico? Yeah. Yeah, and then the two guys. Because the husband was doing something with him. Yeah, and the two guys that the cops brought in were witnesses to it, they got kidnapped. Jesus.

Right out of the prosecutor's. But didn't, say, like, 91% of murders go unsolved? Yes. Yeah. Everything's just a cold case? I don't know, dude. I think any... If you're the 9% that gets busted, what the fuck you're doing?

You can walk there. You can just walk there. You can walk right into chaos. Yeah. You can walk there. From here, you can get there in a day. But if you're a tourist, a lot of times they'll leave you alone, right? Five hour drive.

Dude, when I was living in California, I had my Ford Lightning, and there's a shop down there that makes carbon fiber parts for lightning. I was like, I'll just go pick it up. I drove down there. And the guy working the custom goes, what are you doing? What are you doing? What do you mean, ma'am? We had to pick up some car parts.

He goes, listen, we knew you were coming because you're posting. You're coming down here. We knew you're coming. And we're good. And we're fans. We're good guys. We're good guys. But if we know you're coming, the bad guys know you're coming.

He's like, don't come back here, man. I'm like, really? He's like, don't come back. He's like, you're in a loud, orange Ford Lightning, and you're posting and you're coming down here. Yeah. Don't do that. Worth it.

Was it? I know, I mean, it's cool. Yeah, this carbon fiber offenders are tough to fight. Who would run for mayor? Look at that. From 2018 to mid-20204, 1,709 murders, attacks and threats reported against politicians and officials. That is crazy. Who's going to run for a fucking politics?

At least 37 candidates. Some people just, he disappear. You would think at 27, the guy would be like, fuck this, dude. Well, Calderon said the people are getting so sick of it. I think ultimately there becomes this. What are they going to do, be? A revolt. The population- And do what? And do what?

Get shot. They're so organized, though? Yeah, they're literally like military-organized. Well, they have military weaponry. And they have night vision. They have armies. I mean. That's what I'm saying.

What are you going to do? I don't know. A revolt and do what? Get murdered? I think you're going to see more of that what that happened, that Venezuelan boat that just got taken out in the middle of the water. I was seeing people saying that that wasn't a cartel thing and that what Donald Trump is committed.

It is a war crime. He blew up people from Venezuela for no reason. You don't think they know this this fucking boat filled with taped up satchels. Yeah. And Maduro? I can't believe that the Justice Department said Maduro, we have a reward for his arrest. $50 million. That's, they put $50 million on the president's head.

That's setting something up. They're setting something up. Oh, yeah. There must be some golden them there hills. yeah i got a feeling i got a feeling we got some some pretty some badass is kind of already down there well probably there's probably also some i mean between mexico and canada it's just a shit show yeah but canada is like so much safer yes canada you have your job you have your reputation destroyed and in mexico they kill your whole family it's kind of a difference uh in canada

one of 20 people in canada is assisted suicide what yeah one in 20 what yeah i'll send i'll send to Jamie so you can post it. It is so crazy. In other news, did you see that Roy Jones Jr.? Yes. Wasn't that cool? That was heartwarming. It was so amazing. The guy... How they gave him his gold medal? Yeah. That Korean guy who

got beat. I love that. It was heartwarming. It was really cool. I got emotional over it. Yeah, because there it is. Assisted dying now counts for 1 and 20 Canada deaths. That's how depressed they are. Well, they're doing it for people that are depressed. They're doing it for people. Oh, you

hurt your knee. But I'm not allowed to hike anymore. Okay, they killed 15,300 people last year. What a shit show. What a shit show. It was legalized in 2016, but it showed around 15,300 people underwent assisted dying last year.

Median age is 77 though. After being successful in their applications. The median age is 77. I kind of get that. So you can just do it for any reason? Yep. Yeah. Small minority of other cases, patients may not have been terminally ill, but sought an assisted death due to long and complicated illness that had significantly impact their quality of life.

Well, it really makes you think, like, what percentage of people are just suffering where life just fucking blows? Probably quite a bit. And are they doing it in those tanks? They're doing those, like, weird spaceship things? I don't know how they do it. You see them, they look pretty nice. They do in Oregon.

You could get assisted suicide in Oregon. How do they put them down? Do we know? I don't know. Is it an IV, or is it gas? Because there's a place in Sweden, I watch a documentary on it. He kind of just jumped in this little, like, alien ship-looking thing and just game over. He had his last meal with his wife.

I was like, all right, see on the other side and just out. B, you and I were talking on suicide one time, and I was like, I can't understand how anybody would do it. And a guy who I would come to my shows periodically, and he'd give me, like, he made knives and stuff. And he emailed me, and he goes, just so you know, I'll give you an idea of what it's like when you constantly play suicide. I was like, okay, and he goes, you ever been in Hassana and you can't stand another second you've got to get out because it's just too hot?

Think of being that with no doors all the time. For your whole life. Yeah, and I was like, holy fuck. And did he do it or no? He tried twice, I guess, and now he's better. Well, think about the kind of pain

that Bisping must have been in because of his neck, you know? But Bisbing's a guy, I bet you he didn't even consider it. No. There's a difference. No, he's probably trying to line up a fight. Think about Gordon. Think of the shit he deals with.

Still winning. You know what I'm saying? Being C-sick 24-7? I just can't understand how no one can figure out how to fix what's wrong. Well, I mean, the issue is that they know what the issue are, what the issues is, and they're just like, we're going to try to reset your gut biopium. I'm like, sweet, what's like the, like, agreed-upon baseline homeostasis for, like, what your gut biome is supposed to be. They're like, we don't know. There is, it's different for every person. So it's just, just eat nothing but kimchi for a year. I could do that, yeah.

Yeah. Or I could just kill myself. Don't do that. God biome. Yeah. That's like Afif Gannoon, and he's got that clinic. Because everybody always wondered, like, what happens if you take antibiotics too much? There you go.

Well, now we know. Yeah. Remember my psoriasis? You remember seeing how covered I was? Mm-hmm. And then Andy Galpin and Dan Garner gave me. Why are you laughing? You're such a piece of shit.

I know. I know. But I changed. I just studied. I know, I know. Get his face. It's like when, who was at Bobby Lay? It was like, I was brutally molested.

And yeah, I just started fucking crack. Died by a Down syndrome guy. He starts laughing. That's such a brutal. No, because Bobby, Bobby goes, all right, I'm going to say this again. If you, if you guys laugh, I'm fucking leaving. And he goes, he goes, viciously brutally. When I was, when I was, I was just avoid it.

I was brutally molested. I'm like, you don't say brutally, dude. No, I was about Bobby is like, Bobby might have been making that story. He was because he was the funniest. He was the funniest. Because every time he got worse and worse and worse And he's one of the funniest people ever He's funny as fuck

He's one of the funniest people ever Very funny I miss him So Santino man Will Bobby not talk to you anymore No we do we taxed We're good Interesting

But I miss him You text like three years ago No No but I miss it You don't tax like on a regular basis No I said we made up though Yeah He had said he told somebody to say

Hi to me And then I said hey You know I said He goes how are you I go I'm good and eternally sorry And he goes We're good And that's cool

Is he at the mother ship? That's a good fight. Lopez, Diego Lopez, John Silva. That's next weekend. Does Bobby come to the mothership much? He's been there. Yeah, I mean, he comes when he's in town. I try to get him to

move here. I've never moved to Austin. But when he was here, he met some nice ladies. Tim Dillon's take on Austin's hilarious. It's funny. It's so funny. He's like, there's like two good restaurants. I've been to him multiple times. There's no live music scene. It's six

buskers on heroin. He's here all the time He was here last week He's going to be here again this week He's the guy He owns two houses here He's just nuts He's very funny

He's just being silly So fun And then they write articles on it His take is really funny Is that it became like a whole thing Like the movements leaving Austin This shine has worn off It quoted me

Shane Gillis and Tim Dillon See how much we hated Austin I just said I miss The baseball dad's in L.A. That's all I said man that's hilarious i love it here yeah i i used to miss the comedy store until i opened the mother ship that was all i missed i love everything else about austin i have no problem sir i'd like them to clean up some of that homeless shit though compared to l a

yeah that's pretty bad on sixth where first of all what are you doing on sixth other than go to the club and get out of the club i do yeah don't know i got a dead rabbit sometimes that's the problem right that shelter's right there which is so nuts you get some people that are homeless trying to get clean and where do you put their shelter a block away from the biggest party fucking street in all of texas i know it's so dumb i'll be honest i haven't seen because i'm not i haven't been down to six at all i haven't seen a single homeless person yeah well they're very centrally located yeah it's all six street and i'm in like i'm like a weird bubble it's like pleasantville it's just there's no danger and i don't like it look at this look at this this is a matter of time that's it herb dean

seen enough yeah that guy that guy was just he was just did you see i feel i feel like this can't even be real but it it might be did you see they just opened a 65 million dollar transgender homeless shelter in new york well how does that mean how many that's fantastic how many homeless people are transgender i saw i saw it we could big a fact there's three people in there but well mom donnie is saying that he wants to set it up where people can go there and get snipped for free he's gonna win Huh? Hopefully. Yeah. To watch New York try to experiment with a socialist again?

I heard an interesting take yesterday. Where apparently a lot of the super rich people in New York actually want them to win. So they're like, yeah, go ahead, fucking, we're not going to be affected. You guys fucking see how it goes. New York City opens first taxpayer funded transgender homeless shelter in New York. Progressive political theater. That is adorable. 150 beds for trans and gender non-conforming individuals, nowhere to sleep.

Those are expensive beds. Wow, that is really wild. Nations first. What is gender non-conforming? Do you get to choose if you're gender non-conforming? What if I just decide I'm gender non-conforming? I think all I have to do is just say it. Yeah.

If I just say, I'm gender non-conforming. Okay. Well, that's what's new about that transgender movement. It's rooted in what? A feeling. It's not rooted. So you can be a minority and a minority on the same level or even bigger than a black man. Ask Dave Chabelle because you feel like one.

You know, it's weird, though, your daughters are older. Have your kids asked you? Like, when that transgender shooter, just the, what was that last week? The mass shooter? Seven of them in a row. Yeah, I'm saying this last one. It was all over the news. We had the news on when my kids ask me about it.

Because kids kind of have a better understanding. Meaning it's very black and white. Where they're like, wait, dad, he's a, or she's a girl? No, that's a guy. Right. He's like, but she thought she was a girl? girl I'm like she felt like it but she's a man he's like oh that makes it there's no the lines the thing is in the manifesto this guy said that he regrets going trans and he doesn't want to chop

his hair off even though he hates his hair he doesn't want to chop it off because he'd be like giving in to all the people that said he wasn't really a woman in the first place but he regrets ever doing it in the first place here's my here's my take on it it's not about transgender people being more violent has nothing to do with that there are people that are completely out of their minds. And one of the manifestations of that is to decide that you're a different gender. Gender dysphoria. So what happens is, but now when you stigmatize that, when you say you're not even allowed to talk to somebody about maybe they might be a little confused because that's considered conversion therapy. What happens is you're now lumping those two things in.

So in other words, you, this kid was obviously. No one is not allowed to talk to someone about being confused about their gender. No, so. They're saying you don't have to tell your parents. No. So there are, there, there was, in California, there was legislation presented and a number of states was said, when a child says, I feel like a girl, but I'm a boy. And a psychiatrist tries to treat that as an abnormality or a mental illness or a confusion. Are you saying you can't question it? You can lose your license. Yes, you can lose your license. Why? Because Miriam Grossman, I had her on, she wrote Transnation, I think. And, and that can be consistent. considered malpractice and you can get sued and lose your yeah so then the real problem is the psychiatric drugs because they're all there you go and what I'm saying is that if you might have a kid who's profoundly disturbed in a in a number of ways one of the manifestations of that is saying I'm now a girl or whatever it is that should be a signal maybe many times that your

kid is not well and let's take a look at what the fuck is going on yes yeah yeah yeah But if you say that, then you're anti-trans. Of course. That's what I, and how many mass shooters have we had? Clearly, there's a fucking issue, man. Right. There's an issue.

Right. Doesn't mean all trans people are bad, but these mass shooters, we've got to figure it out. Can't keep going down this road. I'm getting in touch with my friends. I'd say we just keep going down this road. We don't have a choice.

As long as we disarm them all. This is what they're going to do. I can't wait to disarm them. I can't wait to see them. the left defend gun rights yeah i'm going to open up a transgender gun club in awesome fuck it let's go the left will never oppose me if i just like i say well i'm going to open up a gun club only for transgender and non-binary conforming people whatever it's good gender nonconforming have you tried to have any of the really far left professors on your podcast no i've had them in the

past have you yeah yeah yeah how's that go not so good no yeah yeah i i uh Thaddeus Russell, I had a very long and stupid conversation with him about the difference between men and women. There's no difference. And I'm like, so if you get a boy puppy, if you get a puppy and it's a boy puppy and you wanted a girl puppy and they say, well, there's no difference. What do you fuck are you talking about? Like, this is the dumbest conversation ever. But at least Thaddeus is a guy who will have the debate. Most of the left won't even talk to them. Yeah, but it's not a good one. You're just talking circles. It's nonsense. It's nonsense. You talk in circles. Yeah. Like I thought we were on the same page. I was like, no.

way off you're saying nonsense and does he have kids I don't think he does or I'm not sure I shouldn't say I have no idea but the bottom line is biology is really simple double X X Y sometimes there's a mistake sometimes there's an error and you get X X Y sometimes you get hermaphrodites and there's sure that that is a real thing but it's super fucking rare yes what this is is a social contagion and Abigail Shreyer wrote a fantastic book about a call irreversible damage that she highlights how they're happening in these clusters of a lot of girls who are autistic yes and let's get to the bottom of that's like anorex what's causing all that how come one in every 12 kids who's a boy in california has autism now because that's what's going on that's what's going on in california which has one of the

strictest fucking vaccine policies one in 12 did i say vaccines cause autism maybe i will Well, RFK's getting to that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And now Florida doesn't demand vaccines for kids. Yeah, that's dangerous to me. I knew you'd jump on that train. Of course, it's dangerous, Brian. What are you talking about?

Tennis. So, so, so, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You need to bail on the tetanus thing. What do you mean? Educate his ass. Suzanne Humphrey's explained tetanist. She's not a vaccinologist. I know that woman.

What are you talking about? So you're saying we shouldn't have vaccines? She's a medical doctor that absolutely understands tetness. She said, tetness, all you have to do is keep the wound open and clean it. Oh, that's such bullshit. It's not bullshit. It's not bullshit. Do you only people die of tetanus every year?

Very few. What about? Okay, so let me ask you a question, Mr. Joe Rogan, Mr. Scientists. Are you saying that we shouldn't have... Don't do that. Don't call me, Mr. Scientists. I'll start mocking you, and it's so much easier to mock you. So are we not... So you don't believe in vaccines?

You don't think we should have vaccines? It's not that I don't think you should give a kid at Hep B vaccine when they're a baby. Different subjects. No, the MMA vaccine is absolutely connected to a host of serious, debilitating fucking problems that kids have gotten from them. There's a lot of problems because they don't test vaccines in a double-blind placebo-controlled setting. They test them against other vaccines.

You know that, right? Yes, I do. Excuse me. Let me just say something. Yes, you're right. You can make the argument for Hep B. Here's why. Because the chances of a child coming in contact with the kind of activity that causes

Hep B is different. Sexually transmitted disease and needles. So now you say this. You say this. That chance is zero. The chance for vaccine injury with the Hep B is not zero. is non-zero. Okay, so I understand that math, okay? What I'm trying to say to you is that there are certain diseases, pick up a history book, smallpox, diphtheria, mumps.

Have you ever looked at, tetanus, polio, paralytic diseases? Have you ever educated? Polio, please stop. No, I won't. I know you think it's just, I've read, I've heard Susan Humphreys. This is a long conversation that we're not going to have on this podcast because I'm going to get angry because I've researched this for years. Right. Let's just not. But you're not a scientist. I don't have to be a scientist to know that. Yes, you do. Brian, shut the fuck up. I don't have to be a scientist to read research, to understand that they were spraying DDT all over the fucking country

when everybody was getting polio. Do you know that? Yes, I do. You know the first instance is a polio? They happened in rural communities where they're all farmland and agriculture, and then cows were getting them, and horses were getting them, and dogs were getting them. Let me make a statement. They were calling it, paralytic polio.

Do you agree with the following statement? It's not just... I'm not going to do this with you, Brian. But it's not just about... It's not just about... Hold on. Joe. No, Brian.

I don't want to do this. But it's not just about... We're in the middle of a fight companion. It's annoying. All right. But it's like... Yeah. Yeah.

Anti-vax. But be anti-vax. It's not anti-vax. Questioning why there's so many, though. My kids are all vaccinated. And they're vaccinated, but they went on a delayed schedule. They delayed schedule. So did mine.

So did mine. You're not? Yeah. Good for you. I don't think you need to. No, they're healthy as fuck. Yeah. Between the two of them, they have 12 touchdowns this week.

two home runs I think the problem is that the pharmaceutical drug companies have an exemption because of what they did in the 1980s with Reagan where they allowed them to never worry about being sued and that's when they ramped up the fucking schedule and that's also the correlation when you look at all the fucking host of all sorts of diseases and issues just start happening with kids

autism it's through the fucking run there's a lot of other autoimmune issues there's a lot of there's a lot of like serious problems I think there are three things that have pushed us beyond our biology and the reason we don't have a lot of children dying in nutrition, sanitation and vaccines. And I think anybody says otherwise is, you know, I think it's crazy. But you can't say all vaccines, be it didn't say all vaccines. But he's not saying all vaccines. But he's not saying all vaccines.

It sounds like he is. Brian, you don't know what the fuck I'm saying. You don't. Well, I know because you're, you don't want to talk about it. Brad, I don't want to talk about it in the middle of a podcast because it'll completely derail the podcast. And I'll start showing you statistics. If you look at when people stopped getting all of these diseases and then when the introduction of vaccines happen, it's at the end. After the diseases that already gone through the population, most of those diseases were eradicated by sanitation and nutrition.

There was a huge problem in this country. People were living in fucking squalor. I agree. But there's still pathogens that are very dangerous. Sure, there are. So the problem is that these pharmaceutical drug companies are fucking insanely entirely. corrupt. They've been corrupt for a long fucking time, and there's a revolving door between the FDA and these pharmaceutical drug corporations. They go from the FDA into these positions. They have this golden parachute, and then they ramp up the fucking schedule every year, and it's not about public health. None of it is about looking out for you. All of it is about making money. That's the problem. Who wants to do some smell and salt? O'Kai's good. Who wants to do some smell and salt? Chuck one over here, Jamie. We got some? Where's the Okai from?

From your mother's pussy. Hey, that's out of line. Hey, that fucking, that burn is too far. Joe and I always have these arguments, Gordon. Yes. This one's weak. Is it? Yeah, it's a little old.

It's a little old. Get you going, though. What did it? We got seven of them over here. God, get you some, Brian. Get that big fucking dick nose Besides to watch your friend suffer What are the actual

I don't know let's find out Pop one of those See if it cures your tummy It wakes you up though It might help your stomach Or could make me nauseous I'll say Yeah if he fucking projectile

Bollers on the Buddha Great Don't do it Well Gordon you might throw up That's good for you This one's basically dead What is it actually supposed to do though It just jolt's your system

And like this guy's got like He's got like 15 of them laying around Every place I go Yeah He goes to the green room He's got, like, 30 bottles. I get everybody addicted to the greener. Once you gave me it, I was like, I want more of that shit.

Once I do it once, I want to do it. I want to keep doing it. It's supposed to wake you up? Yeah, they'll wake you up. Guys will do it before the lift super heavy. So I know that. Why don't you fucking do it right now? Just a party?

Hey, just to get away from the vaccines before he broke and kills Brian. I brought it up to feel back. I was hoping. I was somebody you, right after, right after he sniffed it, and Brian was going to bring vaccines back up. Yeah, he was going to put a table over. Dude, Joe and I used to have arguments about acting class. We'd get in shouting fights.

He used to tell me that vitamins weren't necessary. Oh, yeah, yeah. Vitamins aren't necessary. I'm talking to a doctor. I'm talking to a doctor. They don't do anything. This is me and him at a fucking restaurant in Seattle. Brian, please shut the fuck up.

Yeah, but then I started taking vitamins and I called him up. I go, dude, I feel great. He goes, fucking I know. I wish you could go back in time and not take vaccines. Why am I so healthy? I never got psoriasis. This is crazy. Hey, shut up.

Turns out I had autism the whole time. No. Dude, we've been in Austin for how many months now I've been trying to give them to Waze to Whale for how long? I finally fucking went. I got my levels test. Dude, how is it? My test. My test, the best.

So I just got my level's test with Brigham. It was awesome. And I got stem cells. Nice. So check this out. I got, I go, I worked out at, uh, archetype. This is Marvin Vittori's brother? Is it?

They look very similar. I worked out. I meant to call you about this. So I work out and I kind of forgot I had to go. So I, I probably shouldn't have worked out. Didn't sleep much, but my test is the lowest it's ever been, which is 785, not bad for my age. That's very good. Not bad, right?

That's very good. Now, my free, though, is low. It's like 45. And she said it should be 151. But then I did a bunch of research on chat GPT with PubMed, and I looked at, I talked to a couple of doctors, and they said, if your test is that high because I have a lot of energy, they go, just be careful because you've got to test it again. So she at Wayswell, they go, we don't want to put you on anything yet because we want to test

because your magnesium is a little low. and your D-H-E-A or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're going to put me on that because their, my test is really high. Yeah, just take TRT and get me. Oh, oh, hold that, no, no, no, he's right. So, magnesium is huge. And I talk to, low magnesium, that's huge.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I talked to my boy, Mike Isretel, who gave me that, he told me, I said, if I wanted to get huge, give me the steroids stack. And he goes, do you want, do you, you don't mind if your liver becomes styrofoam? I go, just fucking hit me with it. And he gave me the stack. I saw that clip. Oh, dude, it's great. Yeah, he's a freak.

He's amazing. What was he talking, DACA and all that? He's got his Ph.D. Was he telling you to take DACA and everything? And also, he's on everything. Oh, yeah. Have you had him on? He's hilarious.

Oh, I love that guy. Here we go. Shit, I think the Komenade is next. Oki and Jones. Is the Komein next? Yep. Nice. That's what I'm looking for.

Me too. Rufi and Benoit. If you had the gun to your head, who do you have, Imovov or Bahalo? I know you don't like. This is Bahalio's toughest fight, I think. in the UFC. Imovad has a better strength of schedule, too.

I usually go by that. Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely faced the tougher competition. He's coming off of a CAO of one of the all-time greats. I don't think either one gets... Oh, he just fucking popped them.

Oh, oh, oh, damn. Oh, please end fast. I don't think... Get to the main fight. Oh, he's getting dinged. He's getting dinged. Tough, though. There you go.

Yeah, well, he's moving. He's definitely moving, but he keeps getting popped on a chin. I don't think. I think the winner of Imavov in this fight, Hamzot. No. I think the winner of Fluffy and RDR fight. Because I think that's more like you end in a finish.

Bro, Jones has got a fucking chin, I'll tell you that, because this dude keeps getting cracked. And Oki can crack. Yikes. And he's throwing haymakers at him. Yeah. I think... Looking like a young Kevin Randleman.

Bahalo's... His defense is really good, striking wise. Well, he's really good all around. That team, that fighting nerds team is so good. They're crushing it. They're so good. Where are they out of? Brazil. Brazil. Yeah, that's Jean Silva,

that's Carlos Prattez, Maricio Rufi, Barhalio, now Mikhail Oleg Sejuk. He's over there with them now. Wow. Came over from Poland and he's like, fuck it, let's go. I feel like those polls and stuff, those Russians have such good fundamentals and defense. They have good bones.

Yeah. Like when Yombovich used to fucking go shin to shin to shin with people He had Magamatov was just fucking limping all over the place Like what the fuck are you doing? Just going shin to shin to shin when it crack He's such a dense dude My shins are like fucking touch him You flick them I'm like ah

It's all those vaccines I got bird bones I would have been a great fighter if I didn't have bird bones See I'd like to see DDP at light heavy Really? Yeah I think you'd fuck some dude up. Don't you think they would out wrestle him there? The problem with that guy is now after what

Hamzad did to him, everyone's going to out wrestle. The word's out. If you get him the right matchups, then when, if he got the ankle. The thing is, though, most guys are not at Hamzot's low. Most people aren't as good at keeping, at riding. Oh, oh, oh, oh my God. It's turned around. Look at this. Oh, my God. No, he doesn't have it under. Um, he's laying down. I'll tell you what, too. I was in Hobbson. This guy's got tired. I mean, you got to think how much energy He blew pretty good at riding chest to chest, and he's much better than pretty much everyone at riding chest to back. Dude, I went to Homs out to camp, and I didn't want to be biased.

I called Joe when I left. I went, dude, I've never seen anyone look like that. And I was like, I've been out of the game a little bit. Last person I saw that dominant in camp was John. Dude, I'm talking national champion wrestlers, all-American wrestlers, world-class ju-class ju-su guys. He was fucking them up. And was kind of going light, and then the coach yelled something

and whatever Chechen, and he just fucking mopped the floor with everybody. Back to back, to back. Do you think that Bo Neckle has taken a little page from that whole game, which is, I'm going to just blast W or grabbing. We're going to find out. They just announced a fight for him. Yeah, but what do you do with

Renee? It's different, though. Yeah, when he fought Reiner Derritter, first of all, what do you do? You're going to get him to the ground, and then what happens? You're going to get strangled. Like, Derritter's way better with his back. Way better with Jiu. And what if he reverses you? gets you on your back you know like so he didn't want that also derruder is way

so that's why he didn't do you're six four and he's a giant one eighty five giant is big oh oh my god oh wow thank merit no wow let it go damn these guys are exhausted this was a crazy first round yeah it was but now that this guy weathered the storm what a fucking chin jones Dude, what a chin, because this dude takes some bombs. Other dudes, he's going to be gassed. Is everybody going to move into a crucifix now, too, after that fucking DDP fight? How many times did he get him into Crucifix? Man.

Last time he saw that was so nuts. I think it was like a full five minutes he had him control. Bananas. But wasn't doing too much damage there. No. But I also think it's a mistake where people are like, oh, the Hamzat style is boring. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's how he fought DDP.

These next guys, like, he's a finisher, man. He's a fucking savage. Yeah. Well, he wanted to win, right? He's got a Kimmore again. But also, to your point, Joe, he wanted to win. It's also his first time. And I know it's Hamza and he's this big, there's all this hype.

Remember, it's his first chance at a title. You're fighting DDP. You don't want to risk it on your feet. But he even went in the corner, with Sruiken was in his corner. He was, I want to stand. Strugan was absolutely not. Keep doing what you're doing. We have it in the bag.

He's like, keep doing what you're doing. I want the box. I want the king. He also learned a valuable lesson because if you look at his fights in the past, like the big, the big question was cardio was cardio was will he will he fade in the fourth and fifth whereas ddp just never stopped i don't think that got answered because if i if you did a ufc fight and you were just on top the old time doing jih Tzu i don't find out much about that because that that's what you do but he learned an important lesson from it that if if you can ride the

guy and make him carry body weight for the full amount for the full time of the match doesn't matter how good the cardio is there's such a discrepancy and work rate that even if it's even if his V-O-2 max is much higher than yours, he's going to get past tires than to get past it. So he learned a tactical lesson where he just basically just recreated what Khabib does. Like with Gilbert, he was just striking the whole time

and you saw he started to get... Also, Gilbert has a guard. Yeah. Gilbert has a very dangerous guard, and I think that was part of the problem. And he was compromised at 170, I think. He's so big. How we got to 70? I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, I think you're right. Compromised at 170. That weight cut was brutal. He's a legit 6-2, isn't he?

He's big, man. And he's strongest shit man which is really crazy that he got himself to 170 and still maintain any strength that wrestling strength christ yeah i don't know who's going to beat him at 85 brookey is tired he is tired he went all out to get the finish well chel sun and famously said that once if you go for a finish and you do not get it you won't win a decision it's not always it's not interesting but it's a very it's a very astute quote yeah you use all your adrenaline oh Which thing at Chale matches with the two? I heard that was a buggy chokes.

I heard that was a kind of exhibition though. They look fake. Yeah. Looked at work? Yeah. They looked fake. Yeah, I believe it was fake. I think it would happen anyway.

Perhaps. I mean, they tapped them once before in a real match. Yeah. They had a match at ADCCC. And Chale also took it on like a day notice. Yeah. So that's how that should go. I'm sure he was in mid-camp anyway.

Gordon, have you ever rolled with any of those high-level Russian wrestlers or daggies? No. I mean, there's some Sambo guys. We had, like, a couple of smaller guys that used to train out of Ricardo Amato's camp. But, like, none of the big guys, no. I was listening to you talk about the importance of watching, studying the minutia, like, tape, like sitting there and watching, like, almost the way of football play. Our watches tape.

Nobody does that, huh? Yeah, they do. They do. I'm saying with Jiu-Jitsu. They do, but most people just don't know what to look for. Oh, nice spinning elbow. Yeah, you just break it down. They look for their wrong things.

They're just surface-level things most of time. Like, Sarukin and Hamzot would watch hours of tape. Really? And if they, and they'd watch it with no commentary, and they'd watch hours and hours to pick up tendencies from the guy. And if the guy only did it once, they'd watch, like, five of his fights really only did a move once it's on his rep so they're watching tape all the time all pros are yeah at this level yeah you don't make but but if you if you look at the wrestling that the daghistani guys do in fighting there's no real place to study that wrestling you have to

create your own system because it's not jihitsu it's not wrestling like if you look at freestyle wrestlers freestyle wrestlers historically in the ufc don't hold anybody down like they you get they take downs are scored by the actual takedowns in freestyle wrestling yeah i always i i always i I always wondered why, but that's a good point, not control. Yeah, the takedown and when we were fighting means nothing. It's the control that actually scores. Like, can you hold the guy down and actually keep him down and do damage? That's why the daggies are dominant.

Is that why Yuel Romero never used his wrestling? Because he was so, I think that was a cardio issue. Yeah. Well, he's so explosive. He would put guys down, but he wouldn't hold him down. Yeah, no. Like when Kabib and Hamza put guys down. Oh, Jones is fucking Okie up.

Keep him down. Or George put a guy down, like he would keep him down. Yep. Okie's in real trouble. And George did a better job at punishing guys as they got up. Oh, these elbows. Comes out and Kabib do a better job. Oh my God.

Of controlling. Of controlling and making the carry body weight the entire time. Yeah. Oki still. Jones has some fucking cardio, man, because this is a crazy pace. And they're in the middle of the second. He's just smashing this dude. They're about to stop it.

They're about to stop. Oh, my God. He's going to go out. There we're going to go out. Co-made event, baby. Come in a hut. Wow. What a comeback.

Wow. Paul Craig is fighting first. Oh, Paul Craig. That's my favorite guy to watch when he's on his back. Yeah, his car. Because Paul Craig can pull some shit off. He's one of the rare guys. I think he's lost six times last to eight.

Yeah, he loses. But he just, the UFC just resigned him. Oh, he's finding Modestispocaucas. He's fun to watch. I like him at Light Heavyway, too. When he got down the middleweight, I was like, boy, how hard is that? You're so big. Are there any Americans left in here?

There's no Americans. There's no American champions in the United States. Taylor Harrison. Oh, Kayla Harrison. She's the only one. Males. No males. I don't know.

Is she going to fight Nunez at 45? At the White House? At the White House? 35? 35? Make it 45 for her. I mean, that's just painful. She made 35 to win the title.

That's the champ. She's the champ of 35. That fights at the White House. She was at the White House yesterday, I think. How does she suck that way? It is kind of crazy that Amanda Nunes has been the 45-pound champion, and then they just abandoned the weight class. Yeah.

Because there's like three big matches. And she was running through them. You know, like her match is at 45. Yeah, I saw Kayla at one of the UFC's and just. like when she was probably 175 i mean it's obscene she's just she's the she looks like glace and tebow she's incredible she's just incredible like just you know a body like that i'm too light in the ass but you know i appreciate it yeah would you like her to grab you and just throw you around shut up joe count's like if she only had a huge car she's got in my mouth against my will

if she only had a beard she's my type but she's just missing the car one of them one of them beards like Gordon Ryan type special operator beards. No, I think she's I think yeah she's pretty girl she's and you're talking about the greatest judoka ever out of America and Yuenna and Jenjek when she's I thought she was very hot

you don't see her when she's all skinny and stuff I saw her at the UFC and a dress she looks a lot better now Jesus yeah she's she's starving herself to make that weight her whole life she was great great fighter but Kayla Harrison's supposed supposedly that's the she's going to fight in the White House Guard

Valentina Shevchenko is uh I find her very attractive yeah cool let me share that with you guys you like how she got a gun tattooed on her hip I do yes I do yes I do sir it's very she's a real life black widow you can take kind out of that sentence she's the real life black widow like the lady from the Avengers yeah shoots guns yeah like really good do no shit really good marks woman I guess you would say she's fighting whaley yeah that's gonna be that's interesting very fun to watch well at this point in her career it seems to me that, you know, she doesn't wade into the fire like she did when she was younger, you know. Smarter, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you can't take- And she grapples heavy, too, if she has. Very good grappler, very good grappler. But Jean-Weilly is a demon. He's a demon. She comes out, and she could do everything. Artificially crazy. She's got to deal with that wrestling, though.

That's the one thing. Yes, that's a problem. Yeah, well, it's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting to see if Jean-Wealy is even stronger at 125, because I don't know how much weight she's cutting. You know, I don't know how much weight she's cutting. hard that 115 cut is right when you're down that low 10 pounds is a giant difference it's so big there's never been any movement on just making another weight class in the middle of that guy there should be there should be a weight class fellas it should never happening

why there should be a weight class every 10 pounds for men boxing yeah no boxing is a lot more boxing a lot more it's just they just need it where there's tweeners like 85 to 205 is bananas 20 pounds It's crazy. Well, hold up. Remember, I would fight at 1.230, 235. Every guy I thought was 265. Right. Think about from 206 to 265 is a weight class. That's insane. It is insane. Really, I should be a cruiser weight. Yeah. Yeah. There should be a 225 weight class. Remember when we were trying to figure out that name the other day for the weight class in boxing? I think it's called Bridgerweight. I think they're calling it bridge or weight. There's like a 220-something weight class. Meanwhile, I would... Meanwhile, the gorilla over here couldn't make 225. And he'll tell you he can, but he could. Well, you could, but it would be horrible. I could. It would be dehydration. I could, because I'm not doing tons of cardio now.

If Pereira can make 185, he can make it. He's got big bones. But the thing is, like, big, strong muscle guys actually can lose more weight. That's why Yol could do it, because your muscles are mostly more. Is that right? That makes sense. Yeah, bridge your weight. That's it.

We couldn't remember what that was the other day. That's an awesome idea. Yeah. It's a good move. I think that they should have legitimately, a weight class every 10 pounds in MMA, and I don't think that's bad. You have a ton of talent. 205, and you can get a little crazy there and go 205, 225, and then I think for heavyweight,

it should be unlimited. It shouldn't be you have to make 265. The problem is you get the big sloppies. So what? Big sloppy. They don't have a problem with that in boxing. You already have big sloppies now. Yeah.

Look at Moses Itama, right? Boxing doesn't have a problem like that, right? That kid is only like 250 or something like that, or 240 something. I mean, the UFC has a problem at 2. 265, like there's no talent right now. There's just no big guys. Right, but you don't have to be 265. You could be 300.

You could be 205. Like a Brock Lesnar. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look at Brock Lesnar or Francis, if he didn't cut weight. Like Francis cuts away, or Tim Sylvia in his prime when he was... Falsé. What is... They just have a problem of finding,

manufacturing big guys right now. Francis is... Yeah, I think Francis at his highest is probably around 300. What? I had dinner with him one night, and he was It was 295. What? Seriously? And there's no fat on him?

No. I was staying next to him and his fucking quad, like his leg was like a size of my fucking torso. Jesus Christ. So he had to cut weight to get to 265. Imagine that. So did Carwin. So did Lesner. I'm so horny right now.

Mark Hunt. I remember when I was trained at Amal Easton's place in Boulder and Carwin walked in. He didn't even look at a human being. It looked like one of the Avengers. It looked like the thing. You look like the thing. He was so big. First time I met Carwin, I look at him, I go, I go, fuck.

I go, I don't know what I do if I had to share a jail cell with you. And he goes, I didn't even know him. He goes, you'd suck my cock. And then he picked me up. I didn't even know I picked me up. And he squeezed me. And I started tapping. He goes, that's 30%.

That dude had giant fists. Yeah. His fists were preposterously. It's like 4X, 4x, right? Yeah, something. Yeah, he was 285. He had the biggest glove ever. You have the history.

He was your man. sparring partner right it's good for your head it's all I had just punching each other in the baseball he's a great team you push you bro how good is Lorone Murphy fuck he's how good about poor Aaron Pico yeah is that what they're gonna do they did it what do you mean got knocked out their own Murphy fucking spinning elbow in Pico oh oh oh oh I thought you said Poree and Pico sorry I got a speech impediment I thought you said that I was like what the Poirier what I was so confused I was like Pico's going at 55 but he just got knocked down he was too

He looked so, I got that. Pico looked so good. He looked so good, man. Yeah, he's so slick. He's too aggressive. Pico's too aggressive. Look at even Pico. Pico took him down. Yeah.

Amazing wrestler. Yeah. And couldn't hold him down. Yeah. That's right. It's a good point. Right? If you had that daggy wrestling.

Yeah. You could control him more. But even the first 26 and I looked at my wife, I go, Pico's and get knocked out. She's like, what the fuck? I'm like, he's way too aggressive. You can get away being that aggressive at these lower levels, Bella, Tor, PFL, all that. All that shit. Right.

When you're fighting a world-class guy, dude, they're going to use that aggression against you and you can get fucking... You're not just going to get starched. You're going to get so fucked up. I thought it was a lucky shot, and then I was like...

Oh, God, I don't know. That's the vaccine's talking. That's the vaccine. It's the vaccines. There's a few guys. Oh, look at that fucking... What is that choke? Is that an anaconda?

I can see the start of it. I look how he gets over and starts barking. He's in that fight nerd camera. right yes yes he's one of the best that's a good fight that's a really good fight him and it's in san antonio in it next saturday he's supposed to be in mexico yeah yeah Lopez guy well who did he lose to never the reason last fight who is it vokovsky yeah the champs guy vulcanoski yeah to come back by the way at that way class too at his age at his age they should leave uh murphy versus uh wokenops i talk to

rob font is doing his camp with us there's the choke if you want to analyze it gordon that it's almost it looks like a figure four guillotine, but Bryce tried to turn out of it. Jesus. I think it started when he was chest back. Yeah. Remember that was Bryce's discipline fight because he praised Hitler. It's a figure four guillotine and he tried

to turn out what he didn't... Oh, it couldn't. You're not getting out of it. Yikes. Yeah, I talked to O'Malley about like, I said, what is it about Marab, his chain wrestling and stuff? And he was like cardio. He's so, he's actually he said, Sean said he's fucking strong. He's way stronger

than you can imagine. Like he's just You know, some of these guys have just made a medal That motherfucker worked so hard Marab? Yeah. So hard. When D.C. went to visit him

the day after he won after he won the title off of Sean, he was running. What? The day after D.C. went to his home in Vegas and he goes, Marob's out running. And D.C. made a video.

Can you believe this motherfucker? He's a free... He, like, showed his gym and everything. The day after the fight. The day after the fight. So Sunday, he went to visit his friend and who just won the title, Marab is running.

Well, dude, he was, when he was doing, when he was wrestling with the gold medalist Henry Sehudo, He was winking and saying shit to Mark Zuckerberg, Cajside. He's like, I, in the fight. How about he picked him up? Picked him up like a doll. Kissed his back.

Yeah, just threw him to the ground, laughed. Rob has the best weapon in UFC history. What? Cardio. It's cardio. He's also just so good. It's straight, too. And what you got to like about him is he's super active.

Where most champions aren't, he wants to fight all the time. That's a thousand pounds. Well, he trains so hard, and he trains constantly. And, you know, when I talk to guys who train with him in the gym, they're like, you can't even watch, just watch him hit pads as nuts. Really? He just says everything full blast, full blast all the time. And so he's gotten acclimated to just this insane workload. And he loves it.

Yeah, same work rate. Also, he's from a part of the world where, like, George is tough. Yeah. That's a tough part of the world. One option. One option. Fight your way out. DC was on Shay, Shea, show, Shannon Sharps. And they're asking them, they're like, what is about the Dagestanians?

and DC gave a great answer. I love the interview. He goes, it's not that they're better athletes or that any of that stuff. They're not better athletes than we are. It's just they have no other option. So like,

because Shannon goes, well, your son has all the resources. Yeah. But over there, they have nothing. So my son has all the resources. Yeah, he's like, they have to make it. Where my son can fall back on his dad.

Over there, there's no fallback. So they train their ass off. Because they have to. Also, the hunger. the drive to succeed yeah in Russia it's supported those countries like you get a doctorate and boxing and shit like you know you're you get a you get a state stipend yeah it could be for when the championship owns like half of Russia yes he does that's the award yeah like try to get him to fight again man like he's like why why would I do that yeah I to put myself through that

plus he's got to weigh 200 pounds now yeah he's thick he's very thick he's big his boy is I think Islam money has like two or three left, max. Maybe two left. Really? Yeah. What makes you think that? In his interviews, he talked about it. Really?

Yeah. John Fitch said when he would wrestle, and John Fitch is an insane wrestler, and John's probably 200 pounds walking around. In fact, it was 205 when I was talking to him. And he said, when he would wrestle Khabib, if he could stand up once in practice with him, it was a good day. Jesus. Like, that's John Fitch.

It is very fascinating what you're saying, Gorge. that there is a giant difference between just regular freestyle wrestling and control-based m-ma wrestling yeah it's it's completely different the different different rules different scoring criteria like the the takedowns themselves score and the higher amplitude the throw the more points you score whereas when you're fighting especially at the heavier weights you don't want to lift the guy fucking over your back multiple times you get tired and the more the more energy the throw the more the higher amplitude the less control you have when you land americans just need to adapt to that style it again they don't have some secret it's just we need to adapt our style to it yeah well they

adapt it early on and that's yes that's the secret there's so much to it though there's so much to it but if you if you look at dougainty guys they are they are significantly better than the americans and everyone uh at riding chest to chest and especially riding chest to back like it's pretty easy to hold the guy down if you just stuff them in half guard and you ride chest to chest. But when the guys start to turtle and they turn away, like, Khabib, the only thing they ever fucked up Khab was when guys grambied on him, like a guy, I forget who he fought earlier his career, gram beat a few times actually got away. Actually, reversed them one time. I acquaintance. Yeah. And then, but and then Khamzot actually follows

Grambees pretty well. Like DDP tried one Grammy, I think it was, and Hamzot followed through. Yeah. Their ability to ride chest to back and just keep hands on the floor the whole time. So the entire weight the entire like for like 22 minutes in their way DDP was carrying hum that's entire body weight it's also their risk control so they take they take away their foundations yeah one of the most anxiety filled moments I ever had calling a fight was when he got Michael Johnson and when Kabeeb got Michael Johnson and a Kimora and Michael wasn't tapping I'm like oh fuck please tap please tap because it was like full on and you're not getting out if he wanted to he could

snap to show was that when he was talking to him saying come on yeah he said you know I deserve this you know I deserve title shot him. You know, I deserve this. Come on, tap now. Give it would have been like, you know, you're right. I mean. What was actually interesting in the Hamdot fight was no, and no one talked about this, was he actually ended up in bottom position at the end of the fight. Yes. And he ended up in half guard. He couldn't get up and DDP passed him into Mount and then briefly took his back. He fucked it up and he fell off. So everyone forgot about it. But Hamzad himself wasn't that good of getting up when he was in bottom position. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a very good point. He did a really good job at holding the guy down. But when he actually, he actually, got put in bottom position

it's funny because if he's he knows how to hold the guy down so in theory he should be able to reverse engineer that and say yeah I'm doing this this and this to hold the guy down so I need to deny him the ability to do this this this but I'd be curious on Hamzat's camp how often guys are getting him

where he's working on his back nobody nobody well that's that's his problem he should be putting himself in those positions 100% you know another good matchup that's coming Bo Nickel is fighting

Oh, I just saw that I forget who it is though Rodolfo Adolfo yeah What about him? Is he a really great Jiu Jizu? World champion

You ever seen his body? Adolfo He makes Glaz and Tebow He looks like a fatso Yeah Show me Rodolfo Vieira's body You never seen Hadovo? Adolfo is a freak

He's a jizu guy Oh my god He's one of the freakyest bodies You've ever seen in MMA And an amazing jujitsu World-class Jiu Jizzo I think that's a tough matchup for Hadovo God damn it

Oh that guy's fucking awesome I saw him at Meta Morse. Bro, he's a beast. He fought somebody. He's ridiculous. He's a beast. Yeah, I'm built for dance. This is such bullshit.

Look at that. But in M. M.A, his striking is much improved. He's getting a lot better. He's getting better. Has some experience. It's a good fight for Bo. He's better than fucking Power Costa.

That just shows you how fucking dangerous Fluffy Hernandez is because Fluffy cooked him. He finished him. Fluffy be fucking people up. He fucks people up. He breaks him. Someone was calling him the middleweight Marab. and it's like that like he melts guys

he melts guys and it's interesting because he doesn't have like a world class background in wrestling he quit wrestling I think his freshman year in high school so he doesn't have like this extensive wrestling background dog that guy's a dog remember you me and Matt Mitreone we were backstage and Rodolf had his shirt off

and he's just standing like that when at my fight it was at your fight me Matt Mitchon and you and we were both look we're all looking at him like this just like like teenage girls just like the fuck is going on that guy's body. He has a preposterous build.

Proposterous. It's interesting, though, how he doesn't have a lot of submissions in the UFC. Guys avoid it. Guys avoid it, keep it on the feet. It was like Bouchesha, too. He came over, you know, he's doing well in one championship, then came over the UFC, and he got fucking dealt

with, man. I love Bouchesha. But just didn't translate. And then Boudet, the guy who beat him, they cut. Yeah. I didn't watch that fight, but from what I understand, Boucher had a hard time holding him down. He had his back so many times and he was getting high. It's like, but I need to know the logic. How does a guy

win a fight and then you cut him? Boring. Do UFC's there for entertainment? They did that. Was it that boring? I mean, that's how you're supposed to fight that guy. Like, Ham, you could say Hamzod's fight with DDP was boring then. Oh, I loved it, but I see what you're saying. I see

what you're saying, but with him it's, you know, heavyweight, no finishes and he had a body of a, you know, a lunch lady. But we can't sell this. We can't. You're the toughest lunch lady in the world. We can't fucking selling. I mean, cutting him off of win against Bouchetia is kind of rough. I agree. They just had a lot of hype coming. They didn't cut, they didn't cut them. They didn't

re-sign them. That's the same thing. Hey, tomato. Talk your boy, Dana. I don't. I would be the worst for that because I would be like anti-marketing. I would be, there's the number system. Let's figure out what the number system is. So number one, the champion, always has to fight number too. Yeah, that's it. I get it, but I mean, I feel like we're trying to see what the best guy is. If it's football or baseball or anything like that, like you have to, you do this and that's how you get to the number one. You'll see it in

Craig's got to be careful that overhand, right? But they'll make more money than me. They'll make way more money than my version, which takes place on a football field. Dude, you and Eddie in that fucking football field and no gloves. No gloves. No gloves. Years of argue. Up kicks allowed. soccer kicks allowed, stomp's allowed. Some pride. Old pride.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But better. God. Because Pride didn't have elbows. True. Which is really bananas. When you think of,

that's where they drew the line. Think what Rampage Jackson did? Do you remember when Ricardo Rona, that crazy slam off the triangle? Yeah. Now imagine that's okay. But you can't elbow guy. No.

No, that's where we draw the line. I don't even have standing elbows. Like, Van der Leight like stomps, like stomped kick. Yes. Do they even have, did pride even have standing elbows? I don't remember name one elbow that's wild

so crazy and you see crocops soccer kick guy in the face yeah they're like that's good that is so crazy

they didn't even allow standing elbows that's where they draw the line dude they used to have headbutts you could be in somebody's garden to start no no

that was UFC that was early days they used to do that yeah maybe early days of pride had that because early days of pride was like 94

and there was still head butts back then because I remember when I was working for the UFC in 97 Mark Coleman was using headbutts from the guard God. They would use headbutts, yeah.

Yep, and with wrestling shoes on. Jesus, come on. Yeah, bro. Everybody got on the sauce, and Mark Coleman was around, son. Everybody got saucy. That's a rumor. Everybody got saucy, because that dude would hold you down and headbut the fuck out of you. Do you want to talk about somebody on the sauce

when you look at Mark Kerr in his heyday? Oh, my goodness. Cast in America, besides Randy. I was there when... He was there when... He'd wrestled 188 in college, senior year, I believe, and he was 260. And then he was like, this is gay.

I was there when I'm going at 285 Kerr, when Kerr fought Dan Bobbitt and he stuck his chin in his eye Stuck his chin in his eye sock And grabbed the back of his neck And just like, look God I'll tap Look it, that's me interviewing him

I was with you, Bobba Size of that motherfucker I was with you that we went to that fight And we talked to him afterwards Crazy How about the rock? Look at that picture him next to it, the sad truth Oh my God, that's crazy

How about the Rock had to get on more steroids To play him in a biopic That's how big Mark Kerr was Oh, yeah If you wanted to do legit We need you to play Mark Kerr We need you get on more steroids I hear Rock got like

They got a eight minutes Danny's natural did Yeah Well Rock lost a lot of weight He lost a lot of weight He lost a lot of weight You've seen him now He's slimed down all

I bet getting that big Probably felt like shit Well someone was like Hey your heart's gonna explode right And number two You're 50 And your heart's going to explode Your heart's working

overtime And you don't have the forged Internals And he also He wants different roles He doesn't want to just play the action. Right, right, right, of course. Yeah, they all want to do that.

That's why, Batista, that's why he... Oh, that's right. Yeah. He lost all that weight, too. And people are like, oh, you look so scrawny now. And he was like, I'm 6-4-240. Yeah. He's like, I need a break, too.

My fucking body, man. Like, the difference between him at 300 pounds being very unhealthy. He was so much better now. Yeah, I saw him in an interview recently. I love that guy. an actor but the thing that he did on the Jimmy Kimmel show where he was like mocking Trump and like punching the heavy wag and calling him a oh that was bad bag of milk so cringy who is this yeah he think you're a tough guy yeah fuck dude okay he's 80

like what are you're punching the bag yes so what is this who told who said you should do this have you ever seen because if he wins this is a bad look well i bet you got paid though it's like Travis Kelsey with Pfizer yeah he did you get like 20 20 i was making fun of they told me how much he made I went I get it he was uh yeah he probably said give me that Biden dose Batista had a saline in it yeah what's that

have you seen Batista had an end of the fight yeah he had one MMA fight took a guy down the prime belt and jujitsu big fucking strong you always gotta be careful with celebrity belts life's at matter what I think it's teacher who's got one that's it's ill legit is there

because everybody brings up that money bird guy you trade with him yeah I'm friends with him Gordon Gordon Gordon Derek everyone thinks that Derek is going to go out and beat an 8th CCC champion. Well, that's... Of course.

It's just not... Oh, Paul Craig's getting beat up. It's not how it's going to work. But, I mean, if he trained with, like, a guy, his... Like, he's 45 years old, or 42 years old. Like, if he trained with, like, a 42-year-old black belt, he'd do it fine. That's all you need to hear. Because everybody was, like, so against it and saying that because he's rich...

But here's the thing, if you're rich and you have discipline... Oh, Jesus. And, oh, did you kill him? That's it. Yeah, that's bad. That's really bad. Oh. What was that?

That was a weird stoppage. It was bad. No, not really. It was really bad. No, no, no, no. I mean, like, he stepped away. Yeah. Oh, it was after the bell.

Oh, we didn't hear the bell. Oh, yeah, yeah. Bukakis had the worst fucking knee injury I've ever seen in the UFC. Really? Khalil Roundtree's side kicked him in the knee. Remember that? It was horrible, dude. He totally bent his knee sideways and down.

See if you can find that, Jamie, so we could all cringe. I can't watch that. Go on it. I guess when it comes to give him that Roundtree Modestis Boccas I guess when it comes to giving that rich guy

The Black Belt I think for people that do Jiu-Jitsu it's like There's different levels to black belt Like if you're never gonna compete

And he got him what Two years It's three and a half It's it That's the thing It's the time It doesn't fucking matter Like just get better

A Jiu-Zitsu The belt are irrelevant First of all Good point It's like it just Explain irrelevant Like there's Just focus on getting better

A Jiu-The belts are irrelevant Agreed I didn't come up the mark and give him his black belt. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I mean, listen, I didn't give him his black belt either. But Jake Shields did it. Jake Shields is very legit. And so if he said he's a black belt, I just take it at face value. Oh, I don't. Okay, watch this. Watch this.

Oh, Jesus. Bro, and that's Khalil Roundtree, who's one of the nastiest fucking kickers in the sport. Knee is shot. Oh, look at him. He's just laying there in agony. And you know that's 10 months. Oh, at least. He had to get it reconstructed. But now Bukakis has some big ass legs. Here's the elbow that took Paul Craig out. Oh, my God.

Isn't that crazy how sideways that goes? Fuck that. That goes so sideways, dude. It just blew it apart. God. Your knees are made for this shit. But he trained seven days a week. Look at this.

Like four hours a day. Who does? Derek. That's a lot. That's legit. Yeah, man. If you've got discipline. With legitimate champions.

And he has like some of the best ability to recall information that I've ever seen. Like, I can teach him something. I could teach him something Autism Why autism? I can teach him something And I come back a year later And he's like he's like

Oh we worked on this this and this last time I guess he would do a black belt As far as knowledge Rolling with you guys But as far as competition goes Like is he executing it in Against other guys Besides you guys

He doesn't compete He has no aspirations No no he means a training Like does he go against other Like purple belts brown belts So he trains He trains with the guy So he comes in the training

him so he doesn't have like a lot of looks like he doesn't go to like a normal gym and train which I think is something that's important to do just for your just personal journey in jiu jihitsu but but if he like we like we just open the new school we just open Kingsway and we have like we have a bunch of black belts

who come from other schools and you know he goes against this for the last like 10 years I'm used to being around like a shitty black belt to me is like a guy I competed at a world level and I call my submission on that's like my my like definition of a shitty black belt like That's so quick.

But there's level. Fuck you, Gordon. No, there's levels. When you actually go to a gym and you see, like, what your average black belt is, that it kind of brings you back to reality. And you're like, oh, this is what most black belts are. Like, if Derek rolled with, like, a regular black belt in a gym, you'd do fine. Maybe, right?

Because he's not doing it. It's like when Brian told me he's really good at tennis. And I said, are you paying the instructor? I didn't say, I was really good twice. But I, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you're paying the guy. I train with normal black belts at a gym. And I train with Derek when I go there.

like he i'm telling you he would do fine against the normal black belt well then that's what it is like you would know like like he's not gonna he's not gonna go out in one world but like if he had if he had to compete against like an average black belt he's been doing jiu jutsu for you know 10 years and he does it for an hour at a random gym in kentucky like you would hold his own like he would i mean he would probably beat him up to be honest way wayne mcculloch said about me on a radio station i like that he brought it back to you no i'm gonna tell you to his point to his point, Wayne McCulloch, William McCulloch goes,

I put Brian in the I'd laugh even saying it. He goes, he goes, I put Brian in the ring with anybody. Meanwhile, meanwhile, even a remotely good amateur would not be the fuck out right away. It's not just that. Being in the ring

with anybody, it doesn't mean anything. It just means once you watch you get punched. Also, I never put Brian in the ring with Mike Tyson. Also, I never, I never, I would spar with these guys if they were good, they would take it easy and they'd move around with a 48-year-old actor. It's like he's a He's a 42-year-old hobbyist who's worth $100 million and focuses on making money.

Yeah. And also trains four hours of that. He sounds awesome. Everyone's giving him shit because he used it to market himself and was like, you're too fucking stupid to get a black belt in three and a half years and I'm not. That's why everyone's upset about him. Well, he does train hard every day. It's a great idea because I had no idea he existed and now I'm defending him.

Yeah. I've defended him based on what you said. Who is this guy on me? Actually, he's here right now. He did the 1030. Paul Craig just retired. good for him yeah that's enough

I mean that guy's been a gang of times and he's a great guy he's a great guy it's very smart too I'm sure I get to a point though right where you get to an age

and by the way has a fucking submission victory over the champion magamana Akhalyev caught him of the triangle his triangle is so tight it's so quick too he got on Kalava

yeah with one second to go dog one second to go in the third round whipped up a triangle and fucking he made him tap with one second to go that's how tight it was

and had the COVID vaccine the day before that's what's incredible yeah yeah at all but gordon you can see why some people if a guy gets his background two years you're like okay what's going on three and a half but you're right you're just fashion j pet but how much did he really train so like this is the idea that we always say this is what i always say what like when people talk about jake paul they say oh jake pa's fucking youtube this now i go pull all push all that away yes but that doesn't mean he can't be good at something right and also the kid was a wrestler in high school in college legitimate athlete like If I just watched him, if I watched him knock out Tyrone Woodley, just watched him, I'd say, that kid's a prospect.

He's fun, he's exciting, he's young, he's got one punch, go-to-sleep power. Yes, if he didn't have all that baggage, but I put out-out, but that's the baggage, it's psychological. You look at him like, he's the YouTube guy. Yeah, so a rich guy, like a Moneyberg guy or a Zuckerberg, you say, oh, he can fuck that guy. But if he's got discipline and he can hire the best trainers, if he really doesn't, and he does have discipline. he's tough if he's actually mentally tough he's here today he's in austin he did the 10 30 to 12 class and then he's taking he's taking three two-hour privates with john carlo luke and marigali that's legit so he's that's what i'm saying 30 until it's like seven o'clock at night you can't

not just that and he's also been really successful in something else we applies that discipline to that sure not only that workload if he's doing that many hours and he's doing it every day it's a lot this is the gordon ryan method right your method has always been not just study harder than everybody else but you don't take days off that's a giant factor yeah it's a giant factor i've talked i talk about him all the time because that training 365 days a year you wouldn't take one day out kind of nuts no no no days off i mean if i'm sick or i have staff or my legs hurt i can watch but i'm always there thinking about this sport with joep is my thing with jake paul is take all that baggage away you would still if this is if boxing had a uh a belt class system you would

still say Jake is a blue belt with his experience. You wouldn't say he's a black belt. He's not a master of the sport even though he's dedicated to whatever the last four or five years. But this goes back to my original point, which is just belts are just fucking, they are yeah, this belt thing. Like blue belts can be the black belts now. Like, you know, it's... They certainly

can if they're strong and they're fast and they get tight technique and the black belts got a... So it's like a bad neck. It's a really good black belt. Yeah. Or if it's a bull. Jim I came from there was no blue belts. I don't know what the fuck we're talking about. When I get a black belt in three and a half. No, but I also don't have any black belts. Like my standard for a black belt is like so unrealistically high that I don't even, I don't have a black belt.

Have you not given a black belt? No. Eddie had this kid. I don't have any boy. Eddie had this kid that was division one wrestler. I wish I could remember his name because he was a fucking nightmare. Every time I roll, it was so ridiculous. We would do neon belly drills and you start with neon belly.

And this dude would throw me off him like I was a pillow. And then when he would get on top of me, knee on my belly, I was going nowhere. I was stuck there. We're the same size. We're the same size. was crazy fucking strong. Now, that guy was a blue belt. Do you know what I'm saying?

Like, he was just an elite wrestler who, you just show him a few of these things, and he already knows how to move his body and control people. He doesn't know how to do it, um, a plot or a proper handball. He didn't, he's terrible off his back. Yeah, he's not a black belt. But he's also, but the thing is, he could fuck black belts up. Yeah. He could because he could pass your guard, he would smush you, he would guine you.

But he was a D1 wrestler, right? He was a D-1 wrestler who was jazzed. He had this powerlifting routine that he would do. He would not skip powerlifting workouts. He's like, it's the most important part of my game. He was all clean, all powerlifting, deadlift, snatches. It was all, that's all he did. To the other one of that, we've had D-1 guys come in to the academy and they get fucking smoke.

That can happen to. That could happen to, but this kid was training. But he was training for a couple years. There's been blue belts or purple belts that come in and get fucking starch, man. It takes a long time to learn. What I'm saying is that this guy loved MMA. He was an elite wrestler. And he was two years in a jitsu, but he was a blue belt.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So he's a blue belt, but you're in fucking trouble. I just gave Jason Nolfa's blue belt. Jason Nolfo's, like, having matches with, like, Renato Canuto. Like, he's, like, having, like, he had matches like Tyrotolo. Like, he's having, like, competitive matches. And did you give him his bluebell?

Because of experience? Well, he's, like, a world-class wrestler. Yeah. That's such a fact. He's like American wrestling legend. I think this is, I've always said this, but I say it again, that's the best base. 100%. If you could dictate where the fight takes place, that's the most important thing.

Look at all the champs. Yeah. All fights start striking, but look what happens to a lot of these guys that have striking. And like, did you see when Chaos Williams fought Gustafson? Yes. That fucking Viking did? No. He just, Chaos Williams, his terrifying power, terrifying one punch, just has a highlight reel of

starching guys with one shot. this fucking Viking just got a hold of him and just absolutely rag-dalled him for three rounds to the point like you felt bad for chaos at the end just beating the shit out of him like I've never seen anybody beat the shit out of chaos it's grappling the wrestling is so goddamn important if you can do that and you can hold a guy

and you can dictate where the fight takes place that's number one even if a fight starts standing because chaos is fucking dangerous and Gustafson got caoed earlier today he got caoed by that rush cat that I thought was going to be a grappling match Alexander Guff said he doesn't have no no oh okay I'm sorry completely different Andreas Gustafson but his fucking strength is insane this guy does one-armed barbell snatches with 175 pounds what to say for a pound that dude

he's like the strongest guy yeah you find some video there's a video compilation of him weightlifting it's insane this is him yeah that's like crazy look at how much he got stopped today in the first round what is he what does he fight at 170 oh my god so my point is at least in the chaos williams a good example the grappling is so god damn important it's number one number one for sure yeah number one for sure dictate where the fight goes i'll keep on the feet go to the floor and if you're fighting for 20 years like you take so much less damage than a striker that's the thing that one talks about it's like look how much damage like a like a gabib took in his career versus 100%.

But that's why I always say it's... Kibb got touched four or five times his whole career. But that's why I say it's always way more impressive what Izzy's done, what Alex has done. When they're strikers, and they don't have

an option to grapple. And you know they're going to keep it on the feet and they get to that championship level, that level of difficulty is so much higher than what Kabe or these other grapplers are doing. Because you know they're not, they're only going to do one thing. They're just going to... Like Pereira. That's what I'm saying, Alex.

Alex is the best example. They're going to knock you out. Yeah. They have no other way to win. That's all they're going to do. And they get to the championship level. He was the guy I was the most excited about when he came over from Glory. Because I'm a glory fan.

Yeah, you've been talking about him first. I was like, dude, you got to watch this. He starts everybody in Glory. Man, I just always knew. You always remember from gyms, right? There's always a guy in the gym that you're like, how are you doing that? Like, how are you hitting everybody so hard? Like, how are you hitting?

There's guys you'd watch them hit paths. You're like, okay, what the fuck are you? doing different than everybody else that's Pereira Mike Brown hit things it's like you see him right hook that fucking punch machine you know that punch machine yeah he got 190 with his right hand his left hands his power hand dude Mike my his left hand was hurt yeah so he threw a right God Mike Brown said that about this is his highlight real said Dustin Poir said Dustin Poirer knocks guys out all the time I hate he dose and Porre is a terrific puncher absolutely but Pereira is a different thing man you're talking about

a one in a million guy really the power this guy has is one in a minute it's nuts and it's built he's built like a praying man he's built different he's built like a fucking alien man his ass is this high it starts in the middle of his back he is a legitimate amazon warrior like

absolute legit amazon warrior his family comes from an amazonian tribe so he the power this guy has you see a sister oh yeah she's a fucking beast she's fucking good man and technically this is when he knocked out izzie the first time dude to terrifying puncher and then by the time he got to glory he went up from

85 and put some mass on and that's when he started fucking people up when he was a two-time glory champion in 85 and 205 god did they fast track him he's a LFA starch some dude they put him right in the U.S. right in the U.S. Starch's Micheladus with that flying knee oh my goodness and then starch is Sean Strickland and then he had that one fight where Bruno Silva made the fuck of that that dude uh I forget who he's fighting that that guy there's so many guys in here like he fought jason willness and head kicked him and then flying need him in the head jason willis the world champion dude like an elite world champion good god i know they have to have that this is him

against dustin jacobovi watch that left hook one more time one more time that is fucking crazy power do you look at boom look at power god it's just different man there's every now and then a guy you'll see a guy hit the bag, you'll see a guy hit pads, you see a guy punch someone in the ring, and you're like, what is he doing different? That's Pereira, like maybe the best example in kickboxing I've ever seen. Because everybody knocks guys out. They're all killer strikers, but his was different. There was a finality to what he did to people.

Look at that. Oh, my God. Yeah. Bro, and these are big-ass gloves, right? Yeah. These aren't MMA gloves. No, no, no, no, they're 10. Yeah, they're 10s.

But it's still. Those also world-class strikers he's not gonna fuck out. Yeah, this is Jason Willness. Oh, my God. Flying knee. Those are world-class guys, Brian. Jason is Willis is a world champion dude. He head kicked him first, and then he flying-kneed him out.

Oh, my God. Bro. Yeah, he's not doing this against. So, no grappling. I mean, he had zero grappling. And, in fact, he had one MMA fight. He got taken down a rear-naked choked. So that guy got taken down a rear-nick-knocked choke, which highlights how fucking important grappling is.

Yeah, 100%. Then he hooks up with Glover. so that was the big thing glover to share it teaches him how to wrestle at least a little bit teaches and then slowly over time you see it getting better and better inside the octagon take down defense standing up all that stuff but then you get to a certain point where there's not i don't give a fuck if goren's teaching whatever there's not enough hours in the day to make up that gap when you get to a certain level at the ufc like for ddp there's nothing we can do for him to beat homz out there's not enough time in his life to beat homz out in wrestling he's not

21 years old, we're like, all right? Now you need to get Russians in there and they're like this, what you're going to do. He can't get better. Yeah. You can't get better. But Hamzot is extraordinary. Yeah, he is. He's extraordinary. He's extraordinary. He can't make up that. He said, he said, it wasn't his strength. You think you can't go in. Yeah. I think it's possible. I have to pee

before I watch this fight because I'm excited about this. I think one of the worst backgrounds to get into with MMA, unfortunately, is jujitsu with no wrestling and no striking. Classical jihitsu. Yeah, you're fast. The worst. The worst. The worst. The worst. The worst. Because you have no ability to dictate where the fight goes.

Yep. So there's also an agreed upon unspoken rule in Jitsu where one guy plays top, one guy plays bottom. Correct. And the way that the point system is set up in Jitsu is that the guy on bottom stays on bottom, the guy in top tries to pass. There's a show in a Hamzot highlight really here now. No, no, it's okay. So go ahead. Keep going.

So it's usually it's usually the guy on top is patty cake, patty cake, patty cake, opportunity, passes scores, backs away, paddy cake, patty cake, passes scores. So, the jitsu guys never actually focused on holding anyone down,

which is why when they actually go to fight people, they just have zero ability to keep them in bottom position. And if you look at the finishers, like people are minimalists in jiu-jitsu, whereas the ideal for jih Tjitsu is a maximalist. Like, you do the minimum amount of work to win. So they pat-a-cake, pat-a-kig, side control three points and they stall for the rest of the match.

Whereas if you actually go in and you look at guys who actually work towards finality, then you have guys who are actually good finishers. And so if you just combine all this, like even Hidalpho versus that guy Fluffy, is his nickname, like he got to good positions. Like he mounted him, he took his back multiple times, but he spent his whole career just winning on points. So when he actually went to finish him, like there's just, you don't have the mechanics to do it. You seem that fascinating that fascinating, that the rule set.

that kind of, it really kind of ruined a lot of what made Jiu-Jitsu important. Yeah. The rule set did. The number one thing that no one talks about in my career, which separates me, is the fact that when I put people in bottom position, no one ever stands up. And if they do stand up, they've used so much energy standing up that I wasn't even worth the stand-up in the first place. Like, everyone that I fight knows my passing is so good, and they know my pins are so good.

Like, I know that they, if I get chest-to-chest-chast and pass them, I'm going to finish them so everyone's like I'm fucking getting up like I fought Andre I fought Yuri I fought all these guys like no one everyone knows if I'm in bottom position I'm gonna get my guard pass and if I get my guard pass I'm gonna finish so like I need to get up like my life depends on it and nobody even gets close

and so like and if they do it sounds like bragging but that's 100% true if they do like when I fought Wagner like you were there like Wagner tried his absolute harsh to stand up when he was fresh and just if you look at He fought everybody else, fought Craig,

fought everyone else, he just kicks away, kicks in the hips. He fought MMA, kicks in the hips, stands up, and he's back up. And so it doesn't allow him to keep pressure over time. I just put him on bottom, and they just never got away. And then the one time he did get away, it was so late in the match, he was so exhausted that I just let him up, and then I just put him back in the bottom position. So no one talks about the fact that I can hold people down,

but the number one issue with classical jihuzzi guys is that they never spend any time holding people down. So when they, first of all, they can't take them down. And if they do get on top, the guy just stands up. Yeah. Yeah, and also no striking at all. So going into it with that, going into MMA with no ability to take a guy down, no real experience in holding guys down, and then no ability to strike. And poor finishes. So even if you jump guard, for example, and you're on bottom because you never spent your time actually working on like submission finishing mechanics. Right. There's guys who can't even finish him from bottom position. Guys who win jiu-jitsu tournaments that don't even attempt to submission. They just get mount. So if you're on top, which is unlikely, because you can't take the guy down,

it's unlikely you're going to hold top position. And even if you are in bottom position, you're not dangerous enough to actually finish the guy. So it's like classical jih Tzu is just getting phased out. And we call it scrimmage wrestling. What the Dagestani guys are doing is going to be phased in. Like they just... I like how someone was mocking you about scrimmage wrestling, and then it got used on it by Nikki.

Like, I'm not denying it's wrestling. It's just a different kind of wrestling. And if you look at every historical piece of information, like you look at Aaron Pico, took the guy down, he's an amazing, you know, classical American wrestler, couldn't hold him down. And then Hamzat was like the next match. He takes the guy down, rides in the whole, like had 23 minutes on top. The only reason he didn't have like a full, almost 25 minutes was because he got stood up like, you know, midway through one of the rounds. I think it was like 23 minutes of control time. Like I'm not saying it's not wrestling.

It's just a different kind of wrestling. When you teach jiu-jitsu, like when you start. with somebody. Do you start from what is the system? How do you start? Are they on the bottom first? But wait, before you get to that, this scrimmage wrestling thing what I was getting to is like, someone was mocking that. I was like, why are you mocking a term?

Like, are you trying to pretend he doesn't know what he's talking about? It seems crazy. But then the exact same thing got done to him. Yeah, correct. He was like, oh, like... Got done to him in the match with Nikki Rod. That's hilarious. It's like, everyone just thinks you could just come in as a collegian or freestyle wrestler and dominate him. That's just

not the way. Like, there's so many things in wrestling that work perfectly. There's so many things that don't work at all. There's so many things that don't make sense to do. Like a fireman's carry. Like you hit a fireman's carry next thing you know the guys are in a crucifix on you. Right. And there he has your back or you're in your triangle. Do you remember when Big Daddy Goodrich fought Paul Herrera?

Paul Herrera took him down, got him into fireman's carry and Big Daddy Goodrich locked his legs up, locked his arm up, and elbowed him. Oh, I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. It was fucking crazy. So never do a fireman's carry then? It was back when there was, it was, here it is. Look at this. Watch this. This is back when there's no tapping either. Oh, my God. I remember this.

He was out right away. The referee should have stopped this 80 elbows ago. Hey, hey, he's dead. And by the way, stop. Bro, bro. It's added a little extra here. They added extra to it. Did they add it?

It says 50 elbows in the head. I know because it repeats itself here. It's a loop. But what is the actual number? Let's see if we can find the actual. Just find Big Daddy Good. Oh, shit. We're watching Mauricio Rufi and St. Dini.

It's already started. Oh, these are nice. Oh, Rufi. just popped in with a jab. These comedy mothership cigars are nice bubble. Yeah, it's a foundation cigars. Shout out to them. It's like, now's this, now this connection, like, take down scores nothing.

Now, can he actually hold him down from this position? Well, St. Denis is pretty good at holding guys down. I mean, clearly not on your level of it, but he does have a very pressure. And so you look like Ruffie, didn't even try. He just accepted bottom position. So it was like, there was like there's no, like, now he's trying to get up, but he's already got. It's a great game playing by. Oh, Santini, this is huge for him, full mount already?

Because if you're questioning guy's cardio, wears ass out early. Oh, look at that. He's going for the arm triangle. He's going hard for it. Look at this. And if you look at the pacing, too. Oh, my God. I think he's going to get it.

It's called. Father's milk. Really? You just bury him in your teeth. I thought that was when you smother a guy. Yeah, that's what it looks like you're doing. Well, no, this is an arm triangle. He's isolating the right arm.

What do you do? Come out in a single leg? Double leg? A bunch of double legs to waist up to a rear up to a body lot. Mauricio's almost up. Nope. He's got to lock the triangle. Oh, he's got his back now.

Now he should go power half or he's going to get taken up. Jeez. This is terrible for Rufi. Terrible. Oh, he can get him off. Shake him off. Check him off. He's done.

He should have went in power half. I can stand up. Just stand up. What did he do instead of power half? What did he? Uh, he just, he stayed with two hands over the shoulders. And then the guy just kind of misaligned the body triangle. So see, like, he had a takedown.

and he couldn't hold him down. Right, and now they're back at their feet, and Ruffy's fucking dangerous at a distance, dude. Look at that. Nice knee to the body. He's dangerous to the distance, and it's nice. Do you know how mentally fatiguing it is

and put a guy down and not be able to do any damage? And then it's not just physical. It's like, I put the guy down, and then he fucking got up on me, and I couldn't do anything to him. He's like some special forces, French guy. Yeah.

What is his exact military? Like, what his experience? Whatever they're fine. fucking Delta team is over there. Is that what he is? Oh, he's one of those guys. Their version of it? Yeah, but there's like...

The French are no joke. He's no... This dude's no joke. He's an intense motherfucker. He was thanking America for helping France in World War II in one of his post-fight speeches. Jesus. Like, I love America. You helped us in World War II.

I'm like, whoa. The crowd's like, what? 80 years ago? So he's got his back again. He's got him... French Army Special Forces Command. Yeah. So far, this is not a good round for Rufie.

So now. So now we know. about Rufi's grappling because what we've seen from him is just well also Santini is a beast he's a beast he's a beast now now look at full mount again who we can survive this arm triangle arm triangle is trying it again by BDS Gordon do you guys start with like traditional guard triangle as you start so what what what kind of athlete am I trying to build oh it depends an elite Brian Callant style yeah yeah if I'm trying to build an athlete from the ground up yeah

and I have time to work with him I always start them in bottom position because bottom position is the hardest to learn most people start standing standing is actually the last thing I teach them really I start yeah because if you can get good

submissions and get off balances from bottom position good guard retention and good escapes pin and submission escapes those are the first things that I do so are are more guys asking to come in the camp he's yelling at something he's complaining about something Rufie is complaining about something. So he's holding the glove?

So he's holding something. Yeah. He's holding shorts. Homs not asked me to train like a year or so ago. In Newport? No, he was in Sweden. I'm like, I'm not going to Sweden right now. He does camps in Newport now.

Yeah. It's not too bad for you. Yeah. Okay, so he... I can actually train harder. It would be great. He had his hands in his shorts. Yeah, he can't be doing that.

He's holding on to the shorts, I think. Is that what he's saying, Jamie? Hopefully he's grabbing his dick. Hopefully he's crap. That was a fight once, a bit with Big Daddy Goodrich as well. He fought this dude, the Pedro, and he reached his hand into the guy's junk and fucking crush his nuts. No. Yes, he did.

It was legal, too, in Brazil, in Brazil. Yeah, there was no rules back then. He reached his hand and crushed the man's balls. How bad do you want to win, bitch? Oh, God. Is it true that, is this bullshit or when D.D. D.D. D.C. DuPlessi had. his finger in Kamsat's ass?

Is that true or Kamsat was a... Ryan's on TikTok a lot. I'm sorry, guys. Excuse my fucking friend. Okay, here we go. Edit that out. 50 seconds left. Oh, Rufi's swinging.

But he's got to be so exhausted now, and now he knows he can't get taken down. Never seen Rufi like this before, man. This is interesting. He's supposed to like this. Well, I mean, you've got to think of the guys that Sondonis fought, too. He just fought Dustin Pornier.

Oh, yeah, strength of schedule. St. Denise, way higher. Hanata Moikano. Yep. He fought some pretty elite guys. He lost him, Icona, right? Yeah. He got beat up.

Yeah, he does. But you see, like, even this. Like, when you're standing, there's so much less that has to go wrong for a good guy to get beaten by a guy who's much lesser. Like, when you're grappling someone, so much has to go wrong in order to lose the guy who's worse than you. So, like, if he took him down in the first 30 seconds of the round and he remained in top position, like just rotting him there would have been like almost zero danger in the round which is like what could be even Hamza do

right whereas in this guy's that last 50 seconds if you're here you get knocked out versus if you're on the ground you got a lot of shit that has to go wrong to get yeah especially when you're tired that's the thing it's like you have to make choices do I move now am I too tired to explode out of the way I see him winds up so I try a duck like what do I try you don't have that like when Atama fought Dillion White

the in and out footwork Wild. Woo. That, like, after something like that, that shit's gone, right? So you can't really get out of the way as easily. That's what St. Denis's banking. Like, even if I don't finish him, let's drain this fucking gas tank so his footworks not as good.

So he's not as dangerous on the feet. But there's such a good test for Hoofee, because he really hasn't beat those high caliber guys yet. It's such a good test? Here's a real question. Do you think that what guys like Marab and then Fluffy as well, but maybe to a slightly lesser extent, do you think what they're showing is that just like, some people can do those 100-mile races.

They're like Goggins, and Cam Haynes does. And that we think that a marathon is hard, but it's just because that's all you're trained for. But guys like Cam do a marathon literally every day. It's just you've got to go past where you think the boundary is. And a guy like Marab can keep that kind of pace up for five minutes. Because he's in that 100-mile running. Yes.

You know what I mean? Is he genetically gifted where he can do that? Or is it just all mentally? He says not. He says he used to smoke cigarettes. He doesn't know any better. That's true. They say that like Prefontein, those guys have harder bones in their feet and stuff like that.

Well, that's also from use, though. Yeah. That's from use. That's the same kind of thing. Yeah, you get that from kickboxers. Yeah. You get that from weightlifters. Oh.

Because I'm, oh. Chanteney, I'm sorry. I'm going to say it. His hands are down a lot of times. He's close. Oh, he just got elbowed hard. That's why he gets caught, man. He got elbowed hard.

He gets reckless, too. He does get reckless. Well, he does get reckless. Well, he's a very violent man. But here he got him down again He's got him down again He's down to train He's got it

He's right He's down to train Oh Roofie reversed him Oh this is huge That means he's tired That's what I was talking about Scrimaging Yeah

Like Rufi was just like I'm not accepting And every previous takedown He was like I'm accepting bottom position This time he was like I'm not getting put on bottom And he just kept moving Until he's in top position

And now he's gonna let him stand up So every time this happens Oh boy Ben Wazes is more and more trouble He's just got to be clean here And just don't get wide If Benoit gets tired, he's going to be in trouble. He's kicking with his hands down like that.

He's going to get caught. Between these guys and a guy like Khabib. Yeah. Yes. St. Denis tried to take him down in the first round and tried to finish him in the first round. So he had more submission attempts and more, he worked towards submission a lot more than like a guy, like a Khabib would. But now he's a lot more tired. Like Khabib and Hamsat spend the first, like, if it's a five-round fight, the first like two to three.

three rounds and just riding the guy like there's no submission attempts they're the sole focus is keep the guy down control them make him carry body way you know see this is the thing if you get to like 155 pounds and you're a striker you know that is at the weight where like most these guys can knock each other the fuck out like if this guy fought iliot to poria he'd get knocked the fuck out right and or he could knock ilia to the fuck out like it's so tight when you're at like a championship level and you're that fast and hit that hard, that's a wild game. What you're saying, Gordon, is like, it's so important for people to hear because that is the clearest pathway to success.

Like, complete control on the ground. It's the least amount of damage you take. Right. It's safest post-career. Correct. Yes. Sentini, look at this. Look at this.

That's tight. That's tired, dude. Look at this. That's not fun. He's got how much time? Two and a half minutes left. Fuck that. He's got to pull this.

the hand down. He pulls the head down. He's down underneath this gym. He's battling it. Ooh, that is close though Jack. Oh, he's putting the squeeze on the jaw. That's got, that's just... Oh, he starts turning belly up. Oh, he tapped. He tapped. Wow. Benoit Saint-Dine. That is the biggest win of his career. Yep. Oh, my phone. Right in France. Yeah, that's a huge win.

That is a fork in the road. That is fucking huge. That's the first loss for the finding nerds, yeah. And that's a big one, man. That's a big one. Because Roofie was the ninja, you know? Roofie was the guy that hit Bobby Green with that wheel kick. Yeah. And Rufie was the one... Yeah, he's gotta be feeling it right now. I mean, that's his boy.

And then the captain of the nerds is fighting the main event. Benoit just started shooting at the ground. He could have turned out because he was actually budged against the fence, so he wouldn't have been able to follow him. That's a fucking beast, man. That dude's a fucking beast. Good for him. Good for him. Yeah, he's a beast.

And the thing is, it's like he didn't get deterred from his loss. from his losses either. You know, he gets beat up on Wicano, didn't get deterred, beat up by Dustin Poirier, and he loses about those, doesn't he wins that last one. That last one, he didn't look great. Strong mind. Look great tonight.

He took it on short notice. To do that to Rufie, that's big, man. That's big for him. I wonder. Well, maybe we don't know how good Rufie is, you know? Yeah, well, we know how good he is standing, you know? Yeah. He just got submitted.

Sandin he was working on his wrestling a lot, I think, here. Well, he started, his background was judo initially. Yeah, his grappling. He's really good grappling. You know, not fighting MMA that long. He's only been fighting MMA for a few years. Wow. Really?

Oh, yeah. Damn. And really didn't start striking until later. God. Yeah, he's kind of a freak, man. I asked him in a post-fight speech. I said, like, how did you get so good, so quick? Like, I thought maybe, like, he'd have some insight.

I don't think he understood what I was saying. But he's, that is kind of remarkable. Uniquely violent man, you know? It's used to have violence. Yeah, it's a different, like, level of understanding of violence. Yeah. But you pulled up his background, Jamie. his back, look at he's shooting people.

Look at this, and cut and throat. Yeah, he's no joke. I'll fuck you up. First Marine infantry paratroopers regiment unit of the French Army Special Forces Command. He served as a French Special Air Service Operator in Maui during

the war, and more generally in West Africa, fighting terrorist groups. That's an elite motherfucker right now. Fighting terrorist groups. Boca Haram and stuff. Terrorist groups in West Africa. Jesus Christ. So that's why he's so fucking violent. And he's all

He only started in combat sports in 2017. He walked in a gym at 2017. Well, I think he had a judo career before that, though. This is, I think he did judo first, right? When he was younger, didn't he? Does it say anything before that? Yeah, practice judo. At a good level.

His mother was a teacher. His father was a, oh, French Army officer who practiced judo. So he trained in judo in France and Germany at the age of eight. Okay, yeah. Yeah, at the age of eight and learned a black belt. It doesn't say at the age of eight, he got a black belt. It said he, beginning at the age of eight, and then he earned his black belt. He played football and rugby in his youth.

So he's a beast. They mean soccer when they say football. He's been moving his body on a high level for a long time. Yeah, violent dude. Rugby. You're also killing dudes in West Africa. Killing dudes in West Africa. Yeah, if you're a S-S guy like that, you were doing that for real.

He looks like it. Like when you talk to them. Yeah. You know? It's a very different consideration. Also, by the way, when you're in war time like that, you're not as nervous. You don't expend a lot of energy, you know, with the nerves beforehand. You have more energy.

Well, it's like what you've seen is so much worse than what you're about to do, right? You're just going to go into a fight. Yeah. And it's probably the only job that you can do, you know, an actual combat. Which gets you. To fight the UFC, you're like, yeah, it's whatever. Like, name another job you can do where it's going to get you ready like that. Yeah.

Yeah, everything's a step down. Nothing, nothing. Yeah, that's the only thing that's going to make you calm. Fuck. Having survived war and then fighting in the octagon is a cake walk. Yep. Especially to make it in that elite division. Well, think about what Francis went through, you know?

Think about what that guy went through. Didn't he walk through the desert? Walked through the desert like seven times, dude. They kept arresting him and bringing him back to the desert. Fuck. Yeah. They try to, they literally try to kill you. Yeah.

They try to take you when they capture you Morocco and then drop you off deep in the desert. and then every time he'd get a ride back God he did it seven times over like a long time like over a year a year and a half or something as a homeless person in Morocco in that guy there's not a quit no no no he's been through hell

I fought the desert fuck face he was living outside with like a tarp and then when he got to France he told me he was living in a parking garage he was sleeping in a parking garage you can't compete that how about his fucking luck right his son passes away which is horrible and then he's riding a motorcycle

hits a young lady she passes away yeah it's fucking terrible horrible horrible it's so scary but it's like think about what that guy's been through and then like what it what is a fight for him you know yeah but even he after the steep amyocitch fight he was kind of fucked up in the head hell yeah and like when he fought Derek Lewis like barely engaged yeah we thought that fight was going to be hey bro we're like here we go like this one's going to be chaos I think my prediction was this won't go past two minutes yeah I thought it was just really be hammered Like the worst time ever.

It was crazy. Houston, Alexander and Kimbo. Yeah. That's right. Right. That's right. Yeah. That was a very disappointing fight.

But then he came back after and started starch and fools again. Who did he knock out first? Was it Jr. or Kane? Junior, right? Junior D' Santos. Yeah. He beat the brakes off of a junior. And then he caoed Kane.

Well, Cain's leg. And he cao Curtis leg. Did he hit him first and then Cain's leg went or did Cain's leg go and then get hit? I think he hit him in an uppercut. And Kane had some knee problems for quite a while. You know, I mean, Kane's body kind of, like, was not strong enough for his mind. Well, his, wasn't his spine in a cage? Wasn't his spine in a cage?

I think they had to do some crazy surgery on him. But the most important thing, he had a butt, yeah. They posted a picture up. He is a gray beard. He looks, no one's fucking with him. How long is he in prison for him? Supposed to get on, I want to say January? It's crazy that they made him go to.

jail at all and any more than he already went yeah it's just because he was I mean he shot the wrong guy right yeah shot the the step dad it was also a creep but he was firing the gun into the public places like on the highway so he was going into car really do that shit can't have that so that's where they got I can't have that yeah that's a bad idea you don't want to encourage that also if I'm Kay and I have his skill set fuck a gun dude don't you want to hurt this dude with your bare hands I think he wanted to kill him yeah do it with your hand I mean I at least planning a little better yeah like if he planned that a little better they may he may have gotten

I think it was rage. I think he found out, and he just went, I'm going to go kill this guy. Yeah, for sure. I mean, how could you not have that kind of get it? I get it, but he didn't kill the guy, and I was in jail. Yeah, I know. That's true.

And the guy got out before Kane did. The guy was out in the street before Kane was. Like, if you're going to kill the guy, fucking... Put him in the same cell block as, Kane. Here's your new roommate. Enjoy this. A guy like that has to be in protective custody, right? They'd have to hide him.

Yeah. Touch kids? Yeah. Yeah, you touch kids and get in jail. They want to get you. But even when he gets out, he's out now. He has to go in hiding. The street to get him.

Especially Kane, the way he's connected. Good luck, bud. Enjoy the rest of your life, you fucking creep. Yeah, it's a horrible, horrible, horrible story. I don't think he should ever get out, but. So Kane, back to his physical issues, like, he had, like, shoulder problems, knee problems, back problems, neck problems. And it was just like, that guy trained so hard. All those boys did.

D.C., Khabibb, Rockhold, Josh Thompson. They used to go full, too. They were so good, too. It was such a lion's den. Yeah. You know, such a... A young Mokachev was there. Like, they're monsters, man.

Yeah. Yeah, and if you just think about, like, Kane in his prime, though, like when you beat Nog... Best heavyweight ever, I think. One of them. The real travesties that we never got to see Kane versus Fador in their prime. That was the real travesty. That would have been the fight. You know, that is...

You know, that's, that's the, that's like the fight. That's the one where you go, yeah, if there was one fight I could have made, yeah, that would have been it. Kane in his prime versus Fador in his prime, because their primes overlap, too. Well, Fadour's kind of towards the end, though, but he's still good. He was still pretty fucking good. When Kane was coming up and Kane became the champ, Fador was still Fader. How would Fader do now, you think? But he's, you know, in, oh, if he was young Fador, young Fader is going to fuck people up in any generation.

Now you look at the headweight division, like you have Aspinon, there's a far drop-off. Like, the heavyweight's never been nice. However, we don't even know how good Aspinall is. Like, every fight he's had. And the poor guy, the poor, he just became champion at the wrong time. There's just nothing for him to prove himself. He's also so much bigger. A guy like Aspinall is, his frame is so much bigger than Fador's, I think, right?

He's a lot bigger. Yeah. He's a big boy. He's a lot bigger. He's 265 or something. He's a lot bigger, but Fader was a special fighter. He was special, too. Do you need to watch, like, his defense?

Remember with Crow Cop? You ever see the... The Crocop? They're both in the prime. He was... Throcock was throwing those power high kicks, and he would lift his knee all the way up here and catch it. He was catching a lot of the body kicks on his knee.

God. His defense in that fight was amazing. There was a... Somebody made a compilation of Fador's defense that fight. Like when Crocop hits him with a body kick, he takes out his supporting leg. He was so good, and he could submit guys like that, too. He'd catch arm bars. out of nowhere.

Like, he had a fully multifaceted game. So insane. Probably the best... So explosive, too. The best guy in the heavyweight division ever that could do that, that can transition from a knockout blow

to a triangle choke or an arm bar just like that. Like, when he catches arm bars, he would catch him... Boom. Yeah, so fast. So fast. He was probably the best heavyweight ever of that,

don't you think? Yeah, and the transition. The guy who could do both of those things, like lightning speed? he was so good dude those nougar fights oh my god that was when no gara was in his prime son

no gara was in his prime and fadour just could not be denied his ground impound was fucking terrifying the best yeah the best he was so good he fought um Orlovsky who was training with freddie roach

in affliction boxing was great and then fader just caught him man no arlofsky was winning that fight I know but he tried to fly me I know I know and he was a

fucking god bro he caught him in the air with a picture perfect right hand and he'd walk out like he'd just finish playing cards yeah it wasn't even warmed up he'd just walk out like i just finished playing cars i'm gonna i'm gonna beat this guy even in mid battle dude his expression would never change never change you've just seen that they're doing slow motion when kevin randleman's throwing him on his head and he's just like dead eye yep just relaxed mid arizo yeah been here before never freaked out and then within a minute he come order and then isn't it weird his brother just wasn't

as good no his brother was a wild man though but it's just not his Yeah, his brother, his brother had a better tattoo. His brother was connected. His brother had a tattoo of the Grim Reaper holding the baby. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Bro. Bro.

That guy's in some dark, he's scary. Shit. Yeah, there was a lot of dark tattoos that dude had. He was scary. Yeah, he was a suspect. Remember when he fought James Thompson? James Thompson came out, the animal. He came out fucking raw, and Emilio just picked him apart.

Fucked, pop up. There was that other big Brazilian cat, too. Remember that other dude that he flatlined in a similar way? Big Brazilian guy who was a heavyweight. I know you remember that. I don't know his name, but yeah. But he flatlined that guy, too. Watching what it takes against.

What he does now? I think he was in legal trouble. Who is this? Alexander Emilien Echon. Fado's brother apparently is a wild fella. He's got some trouble. He's a wild fella. He served some time.

I think Fader is super close to Putin. Oh, yeah. So he probably calls him and he's like, hey, my brother fucked up again. Is there any way? Maybe. I don't know. Because that Chechnine guy was mad at him once. Cardiof? Yeah, Cardiof. He was mad because Fador

criticized them having young kids fight each other. Oh, interesting. Did you see Hamza when he got his belt and flew back to Chechnya and he gave that war load the belt and he was wearing it? Like, he was like, thanks, dude, and he kept it. Yeah. Yeah, that guy's been sanctioned by

like more countries than any other ruler. like he's not uh he's kind of a wild guy to be friends with yeah yeah i would imagine like the biggest mafia lord did you ever see him in homzat roll no oh yes i had yeah it's a good yeah i did it's a good bro how about homzot and sarukian rolling yeah sirrucian is very serukian very good serukian very good that dporia is going to have all his all the problems with all the problems yeah it's his tough it's his tough it's his tough it'll still be favored though really really good you think he's going to be favorite no i know he is yeah yeah yeah i hear it will be Yes.

I think he's got two erasers. Yeah. He's got two erasers. And he grew up wrestling. Yeah. Sarugian can also strike, though, and his wrestling is ridiculous. Oh, not like Topperia. His strike is pretty good.

His striking is good. Nobody on this planet would say it's as good as Topperius. I think we can give him this problems. Would you put your money on Topporia, though, in that fight? I wouldn't put money on that fight. I'd say what Topperia has, listen, Sirukin knocks people out. He's a very good striking. Yeah.

But what Toporia has. is that weird power yeah the same thing we're talking about Pereira he's got that weird power he does get hit though that but he does get hit but he wants to get hit he wants to throw himself in there so he can get those counters off because he knows when his land it's over so in that sense you haven't seen those kind of fight like what he stopped three legends in a row legends legends in a row shut him all max hallways never been knocked out it's one of the greatest three fight wins this is good strike i think sirukians i would i would probably say for surukians wrestling get the job done we're not talking about and it might be a boring fight we're not talking about

wrestling though dude to go from striking to go from knocking out wokenovsky to knocking out max holloway to knocking out olivera that is the greatest three-fight win streak in the history of sport chaos all flat lines that's different yeah but sarukian doesn't get hit a lot he's a really good wrestler's transition is big for the weight class yes which is probably why they fucked up in the last one when he got pulled from the fight that's right Because he's probably cut in too much weight. But the knock on Ciruca would be when he fought Charles Oliver, who Tupier just starched, is if that was a five-round fight, he probably would have lost it. Interesting.

Look at this. But Surrugan's definitely as tough as a slow-mo KO. Oh, my God. Hit him twice. Bro. Like, nobody's ever done that to Oliver like that at 55. The last time he got KO'd like that was Cub Swanson probably. Old school.

Remember that? Yeah. That's right. There was a time where Charles Oliver was just not all in. He just wasn't, like, fully focused. He had, like, quit in them. I thought once you show signs of quit, you're fine. He found it somewhere else.

He found it. He found it. Yeah, he had a very interesting, like, psychological study. Yeah. Most guys at that level that quit, like, that overtly, like, don't make it. Yeah, it never comes back. He's the one guy. He turned it around.

And I held it against him forever. I never picked him. Once I know a guy has quit in them, I'm a lot. I'm like, I'm out. I never picked them. And then he kept proving me wrong. Yeah. He's an extraordinary case.

Very unusual case. So, Sarukian and Taboria would be the fight. But the thing is, like, I almost think the general public doesn't know enough about Sarukkah. That's true. I almost would say, like, listen, you fucked up. You didn't make weight. You're probably a little too big fella.

Why don't we give you one more contender? They did that. Put on a show. They're giving them a fight. I'm pretty sure it's hooker. I think it's hooker. That's a good. one. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Hooker's a dangerous guy. Is this

going to be a five-rounder? I don't know. Who is Hooker with taking into some deep water? Yeah. That Hooker-Porye fight? That's an all-time classic. Crazy. That was a classic. Five-round made of that. Oh, there it is. UFC Qatar. Guitar's bringing that loop. Damn. What is Hooker ranked right now? He's in the top ten, I believe. What is Dan Hooker read? I'm actually kind of surprised at that fight. What is Dan Hooker ranked? Dan Hooker's, he's another one of those dudes. He's just like... He's my CTV. He's a dog. He just wants to fight. He's a guy

who do bare knuckle. Yeah, he'll do anything. Yeah, he's down for whatever. He got the win over Mattow's Gamrod. That was a great fight. Yeah. He was scheduled to fight Justin Gaichie early this year before withdrawing due to hand injury. Yeah, he hurt his hand, remember?

Pulled out. Yeah, that's right. He's a dog. that Strickland fight with Imov? Yeah. Wow. Rock and Sockham Robos. Strickland melts guys. He puts a pace on guys. I love the way he fights. Fuck. He constantly

puts pressure on you and he's constantly got you moving backwards. Hard to hit, slips, you know, all that. What Gordon is talking about with grappling, Strickland employs a lot of that same sort of strategy with the striking. He keeps you backing up all the time. There's a factor to it. Obviously, Pereira

knocked him out. He's more susceptible. He's not control the situation and you have wild strikes coming your way but by always having you back up you're going to get way more tired nobody runs backwards he's a pressure fighter yes he gets right in your growth he's a pressure fighter but he doesn't have the power

you know like he's a pressure fighter it creates volume be able to look at Nick and Nate Nick and Nate did the same thing like they're not knocking guys out left and right but they're just constantly walking you down and they have better cardio and it's the thing is it's like all he has to do is just keep hitting you at 50 percent. If he hits you a lot of

50 percent. For 25 minutes. And really hard to hit, man. He does that shoulder roll thing. Yeah. I'm surprised he's not taken down more, but his takedown defense, he's way harder. If you look at most of the champions, they have one thing that they're better than almost everybody else in the world that, and they're good, sufficiently good at everything else.

Strickland's not better than anybody at anything. Like, he's not the best striker, he's not the best wrestler, but he just has pressure. Right. And cardio. So much, so much can be said for just walking guy. guy down and putting pressure now obviously like a guy like Pereira is used to it yeah uh so welcome he countered him as he was coming in but like for most guys he just walks him down and puts pressure like dude cabib does enough cabib just like literally walks that guy so he doesn't even shuffle

like look at the cabb versus edson barboza like he knew that edson wanted to keep him at range to kick him so he literally he literally just walked at him so that edson couldn't shuffle back fast enough and he was 100% exhausted like inside of a round there too yeah this is this is exciting it's very exciting I spent a lot of pressure on him involved fighting in France and plus you know if you put on a good performance you can fight for the title yeah you're

next like Dana didn't commit because it's basically a four-man middleweight tournament so Dana's not committing so he's letting them put on a show he's saying who wants it more right he's a big boy if you do it by decision which most these guys aren't finishers these two aren't well him knocking out of Sonia like that was crazy

I did not expect that I thought that was going to be a close fight it was tough he's every bit of six three he's a big boy did i watch the contender for the first time i never watched that best fight show on tv you've never seen before i never have it it trumps ultimate fighter did you see it my boy um uh jean paul le bozeneani uh got in there and his dad had been training forever i know his dad had been training him since you was seven there there's video of him doing it and and uh just to watch that kid he wanted to do everything else his dad goes no you're gonna you're wrestle and you're going to fight and he made it to the ufcc fucking jiu-jitsu's sick we'll see

well this guy's coming in his own you know it's like i think the strickland fight taught him a lesson yeah it takes so long just put so much pressure on him and he's got that he's got a weird style too where he throws that teep from the front foot yeah strickland is like constantly teeping you and constantly got you move and he moves back really well and punches are thrown on him and he's got his hands like this i want to see how he's arms out I'd love to see that fight What age do you think fighters peak typically?

It depends what weight class. Yeah, well, it's wild when they're like really lightweight and they're still in it, like Volkadovsky. Like usually after 30 at the lighter weights What is this, Jamie? That's it. Lebo's neoni, write this. So watch this.

He won by knockout. Yeah, he won by knockout, but check this out. Jimmy, I'm going to send you a video right now. Yeah, this kid is special. He threw that kick off of the kick and punch at the same time. Watch this. Jamie, I'm going to send you something.

Boom. See how he did that? Came over the top? No, he throws the jab and, yeah, he threw it over the top, but he did the jab and the kick at the same time. Style Bender does that a lot. That's such a slick move. There's a video of him practicing that move with his dad at seven years old.

That's nice. Watch this. Boom! Oh, my goodness. That's nice. Yeah, that contender series is awesome. It's very good. It's brilliant.

And look how many guys have come out of that. And they're now fighting in the UFC. So many. Dude, how about that UFC Paramount deal? Yeah, it's crazy. Great. It's a lot of money. What is it, like $7 billion for seven years?

No. Because it's basically... Is it $7 billion? Well, that's Jamie. What are you doing, Brian? You're in the middle of the cameras. You know you don't have to walk over to text them. Yeah, don't you know what's number?

Air drop them or some shit. So you see this move? Watch this. Watch when he's a kid. Look at this with his dad. Look at this. Oh, that's crazy. Now watch this.

Ready. He's doing his, this is when he's in first grade. Now, boom. Oh, that's crazy. How cool is that? Well, those guys that do have that, like, traditional karate background. The thing about karate in particular is that you're not really getting hurt and you're throwing a lot of kicks and you learn leg dexterity.

And it's like, especially like Taekwondo, you learn leg dexterity that regular people don't have. It's like just how you're talking about, like, there's a level of cardio that you would need to run a marathon, and then you think, well, that's about as good as anybody could ever get. And then there's guys that come along 100 miles. There's also that with what you're seeing with MMA, with cardio and MMA, but it's also that with everything. It's that with, like, grappling, with striking, with kicking, with everything. We're used to, like, a certain level of it. But if there's, if elite, like, Taekwondo guys really figured out Muay Thai and then wrestling and. and grappling you're in trouble

yeah like these guys they can throw wild wheel kicks at you and spinning side kicks to the body and it's their thing and their timing yes because they've gotten way past the level that everybody else is at that's right that's right yeah I think he rolled with you uh didn't he

he was like 17 though you probably don't remember but um he was very complimentary obviously his jihitsu Eddie braw was talking about that kid's that kid's jiu jihitsu is so crazy though and now he's in the UFC. We have Gordon Ryan's Abu Dhabi belt right there.

Damn. Donated to the studio. Look at that, son. I guess I'm so many now. I just give men's gifts. That's amazing. Is someone out there some doctor fix his tummy, please? Fuck.

You have one, and then I'm waiting. I'm waiting, like, I'm going to give Trump one. Oh, wow. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. I love that it's gold. I love it that it's gold. How many people are hitting you up for those White House tickets?

Oh, quite a few. Hey, how about your boys over here? You probably won't pass any kind of tests that you need to get in there. No, we've been to the White House. Shob and I have been to the White House. Who invited you to the White House? Some guy who was back in the dad, he was a fan, but he was a Secret Service guy. Oh, wow.

I was all up in there. Yeah, yeah. When Obama was president? Weird. Was it? That long ago? That was why. I was when Bush was pretty.

Dude, how? That's wild. What does all this talk about them arresting Obama? What is all this? Silly. Is it real? No. It's not really going to start doing that, going to rest in former presidents?

That's a bad idea. By the way, you have to arrest. Bad idea. Every one of them, that's a lot. Yeah. That warfare, that legal warfare, look the size of Barahlo. He's 6'4. It's going to be a good fight, son.

He's a big boy. Again, these guys are both 185. God. This is crazy. They're not 180. These are 200 plus pound guys. Him sucking weight is so hard for him. Burhalo.

Borhalio. Yeah, it looks like him. He looks like a 200-pound guy. Oh, he is also 32. Is he 32? Yeah. Is that true? You think it was like a young kid. Wow, Imlovak is a 20-something, 27?

28, I think. 29, maybe? This is a good fight. There's a good fight. Very good fight. Man. Baralio is really, really explosive. Look at him.

Probably the better athlete. I wonder how much it fucks with them. watching Rufie get tapped right before. That's what I was just thinking it can be good. Your first loss with the nerds? I know, and he's a good friend of yours, training partner. You all went through training camp for this night, and he gets mud stomped? Right.

And maybe you know how you go with him. Mud stomped? We just get your shit pushed in, and you're like, oh, we just did an entire camp not to get taken down. And then that guy, we didn't last a chance. That's fucking, there's definitely some doubt in that. You're like, oh, shit, our camp's not. the best yeah bro's huge what was uh imamov's uh kickboxing background before he became an

mhm a fighter he has a background striking right isn't am i wrong no he has a background striking because it doesn't it certainly looks like it when i'm looking at the way i mean everything looks real like that stutter step that he did before he delivered that right hand that's really high level man and look at how he throws that front teep to the body he's fucking good man remember strickland beat him i think trickling took it on short notice

bro strickland puts that pressure on you i'm telling me it and it's a different style it's a weird fucking style remember that fight strickland kind of broke him front yeah he kind of broke him i think he just overwhelmed his cardio to the point where it became defensive that's what i would say because tricklin just keeps that pressure

and look what he did is he same shit he keeps that pressure on you see that'd be a good fight for Izzy oh yeah I think Izzy wants that fight I think they're actually talking about that fight Strickland's uh suspensions up in November something like that

anger management from jumping in the ring and punching I don't know if it's true but I saw a thing on the internet it could be fake but it also could very well be real that he got kicked out of anger management because he kept threatening to fight the teacher I think that was just a meme Barhalla, almost got the trip.

Yeah, almost got that trip. But Imov is no joke, man. No joke. Grappling, too. Very good defense. But standing up, he seems to have an advantage. And he's doing a really good job of keeping him on the fence. My name, Musassi a little bit.

Yeah, a little bit, right? Yeah. That was a guy that didn't get his flowers. That was a guy who did not get his flowers. Fucking killer. Degar Musassi was a fucking animal. You know, he used to train with Fador. Oh, really?

Yep. That makes sense. Remember Musassi, we started the big dick energy rumor about it? And then his manager told me, he was, hey, yeah, he loved it. Of course he loved it. We're saying he probably has a big dick, and he probably does, man. He was so smart. So smart, man.

Very well read. Yeah, and very high fight IQ, too, just intelligent, his approach to fighting, but ferocious. But then he went to Bellator. They put him on the shelf forever, dude. He was going to sue him to get out. But he's too old now. Like, how old is he now? It's fucked up.

He was like three years in there. Yeah. How old is Gaygard Musassi now, Jamie? 54 Then when he knocked out Weidman Fuck yeah Remember knocked out

Jokre Sousa With that upkick But Sousa then got that What's that? It's 40 Yeah, see It's over It's over

I mean if you're clean Oh, oh Nice shot You can fight in other organizations And keep the Train Kepa Rowe In 42 and I feel fantastic I remember when

Remember when Sousa put him In that guillotine though It's just like Jacaray just caught him him a second crazy well you know jockey's jacqueray yeah yeah he's a beast i can't believe you see you see strickland's uh tweet about rampage's son he's like we're both head to anger management just one of us can have a felony on their record or one of us is going to be able to own a gun afterwards that's a good fight man yeah bohalio's closing the distance now yeah

this is interesting so there's a thing about him breaking when he fought Strickland, if you think he broke. He melted, yeah. Like, did he, but did he just run out of cardio, or did he lose his enthusiasm? He was given as good as he was getting, though. They were, they were socking it out to the last minute. But he broke him. He broke him, yeah.

I mean, he certainly overwhelmed him. He certainly overwhelmed him, but. But you can tell just the guys from his face when he wants out. It's also an intelligence thing. It's an intelligence thing. if you know that you don't have enough left like here's an example last round of strickland versus out of sanya strickland's like fucking come on come on he's coming towards him what is he going to do yeah all right let's do it knock me out like fuck that like you're exhausted you get dropped in the first round

you got you're losing the fight you know you're losing the fight stay defensive just get out of there you could say oh he broke him but isn't that just a smart move if you don't have anything left yeah if you can't do it like you know you're too fucking tired to fight the guy off Are you supposed to, what are you supposed to do, throw yourself into the fire? I mean, you could try that. That doesn't usually work. How many guys point to the ground now? But the thing is, like, you want a guy who just wants to fight to the end, too.

So it's like, it's more entertaining. I know. It's like, what do you favor? Do you favor intelligence and tactics and live to fight another day? Do you look at it in terms of an entire career? Like, if you just decide to throw down right there and you're exhausted and you know you're exhausted, and you only got a couple of seconds of haymakers, in you. And then you get

caoed and flatline. You're at the jaw. You get your jaw wired shot at the hospital. I hate it. You spend at least six months. I love seeing fighters that don't get hit. Like that skill, the ability to take less damage to me is what now as somebody who's such a fan of fighting, that's what I love. Right. But then you have

Max Holloway last round against Dustin Poirier, winning the fight, pointed at the ground, and the universe rewards him with a highlight real chaos of just strike. Gage. It's crazy. Strikers will, in general, be bigger stars than Grapplers. Always.

But Grapplers will, in general, be more successful. Yeah, they have a higher winning percentage, for sure. But the stars are always strikers. Always, always, always. Look at Connor, look at Izzy. Always. The biggest stars are always strong. Yep, yep.

Always. Yeah, they put on that. Well, the casuals, that's what they know. Like, oh, he punches him, he knocks him out. Oh, man, I don't care who you are. It's such a, everybody's so talented now. It's just crazy. I know.

It's really interesting. You know, it's that way with everything. It's that way with everything. They're watching each other? You're my son. My son at nine years old. Oh, oh. You watch these baseball players.

You're like, these kids are fucking nine. This is how good everybody is now? Yeah. Because they specialize. It's like singers. They specialize. They also, they get to see what it looks like on YouTube. I think that's a big thing.

I agree. Yeah. I think everybody watching everybody is making everybody else way better. 100%. Because there's a lot more shared knowledge now. Yes. Because when we were coming up, it was like, whatever, the best kid in the neighborhood, if I was the best kid, it's like, oh, man, this, I'm so good. But I didn't see the kid in fucking Cuba playing.

Exactly. And now the kids are privy to it. They're like, oh, shit. Well, you got people like Gordon Ryan breaking down jujitsu. Like that didn't ever be a case. There's a kid in jihitsu. His name is Daniel 220 Volt, I think it is, on Instagram. Dude, he's like fucking eight years old.

He's, like, shredded with an APEC. And he's like flying arm bars and shit on kids. It's fucking insane. That's so crazy. got like 600,000 followers. He's like nine years old. That is so insane. He just goes in and just crush him. But to that point, the kids are pushing himself so much now

and specializing in each sport, and they're getting fucking good. But like Tommy John's surgery's up 80% with kids under 13 years old. Oh, they're doing it on purpose? Just to give them an advantage? Some of them, because they're throwing so hard now. This is kid. Who's this? Oh, my God.

There's one. Try to find the one where he's doing a flying arm bar. It's pretty recent. Oh, it's up at the top. Look how jacked is in that one. There's one. Oh, shit. Look at this. Oh, my God.

We're missing out in a good fight, boys. Sorry, this is supposed to be a fight. The kid was part of the time. Boy, Hollywood just landed a right hand. We touched on a lot of subjects. Yeah. The thing about a guy like Imam that I was going to get at with the cardio is much like Connor, like these guys that are real fast and explosive, that is like sprinting a lot.

That was a nice right to the bar. You can't do it. Like you're not going to find a guy with crazy knockout power and great cardio. Right, right. So the difference between him and Marab is Marab just kind of mauls you. Yeah, he's moving fast and powerful. But once he gets a shot or two off, he's shooting on him. Shoot every time, no matter what.

And that pressure is going to make his strikes even more effective because you never know when the strikes are coming. You know, boxers used to do this thing, they still do where they run for like an hour and a half and you keep your heart weight at a certain level, not super high. And that's how you build new capillaries and stuff. Armstrong would do that, too. Yeah, what do they call that, Zone 2 training? Yeah, over, over... Fighters, fighters, do you know, for the longest.

But boxers would do it for, like, literally run an hour and a half and stuff. Yeah, UFC guys do that. Really? Yeah. I think all elite athletes in all sports are doing stuff like that. Yeah, all the secrets are out now. There's no... Yeah, now the secrets.

Now it's a talent. You get to this level of the talent thing. Like, the technical, when you look at how technical everybody is now, like this fight right now, this is an awesome fight. If these guys were just kickboxers, this would be an awesome fight. awesome but this is like a high level fight yep and they're not their their cardio's great like look at this they're both well still early it's a second round yeah there's another there's not a lot of wrestling very smart chel sudden unquote he was saying that no one can fight full blast for 25 minutes it's just too long fights are too long yeah that's what i was going to get to it's like okay but

isn't that like no one can if you run a marathon you will die i'll tell you right now you want 26 miles. Your kidneys will dysfunction. That's right. You will bleed out of your pancreas, and you will die. There's people that'll tell you that, right? Cam Haynes ran 220 miles or something like that? More? Yeah, he's run more. I think the Bigfoot 240

is 238. I hung with him in Eugene. Oh, nice right hand. Oh, right hand back. Oh, they both landed good shots there. Oh, Emovoff. Dude, this is good. How do you score this fight? I ain't fucking know. We barely paid attention. We were watching a little kids strangle each other. We were lots of little

kids do arm bars. I think if you get back to vaccines. Let's get back to that. I knew we were going to touch on it. When I was a kid, you know, when like martial arts was on television, it was on TV, like maybe like PKA karate would be on TV. Yeah. You know, remember those days, like on ESPN? Like maybe like once a month on a Saturday you'd watch two dudes in karate pants throw bad kicks at each other. Yep. Yeah, yeah. Imagine like kids growing up and seeing this now. I know. From the time they're like babies, they're seeing elite level MMA. Yeah. Elite level grappling, striking. And then if they're like become fans and they get crazy, then they get fight pass.

They start watching UFC Brazilian jiu-jitsu matches. You know what the big difference now is? There's the UFC video game. So like I learned sports through video games. Me and my brother play Mad in their techno ball. So I knew everything about football, the rules, everything. all the players but now they have the UFC game so my kids like know who

Hamzad is not when he fights through the video game so they see him like oh there's Hamzaa because they pick him all time in the game and they know to use his wrestling that's crazy but that makes sense yeah I played like I don't know 10 years ago I played like the first UFC

video game and I would get so fucking mad because I like couldn't do the moves on the ground that I know how to do I'm like fucking what's the board of the buttons that was a nice right hand Yeah, it was. Look at that. That was good right hand back by behind.

Yeah. It was a good fight. Yeah, it is. The place is bad. They've never figured out a way that's probably not a way until they get, like, real, something that can, like, really change your actual experience, like, what you're seeing, where they could make a virtual reality game with grappling. But you can with striking, at least with boxing. Boxing, yeah. They have those.

It's fucking good, dude. It's good. I'm dripping as well when I do it. It's competitive. Like this thing's coming at you, throwing punches at you. You'd like it, Brian. You look ridiculous, but yeah.

You look ridiculous. No, I've done it. It's great. Yeah, but you hold your gloves the wrong way, unfortunately, because if you punch normal like this, the gloves are like upside down. But it's a workout. That's a real workout.

Oh, he heard him. Oh, that hurt him. He hurt him. Yeah, snapped his head back. Oh, now he's seen blood. Oh, body shot. Nice. Oh, shit.

Bro, Emovoff looks good. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. Bohalio looks like he's recovered though He's He's dirty He's getting touched Yeah

He's getting touched And I just don't think either of these guys Beat Hamza Yeah I gotta deal with that Whole wrestling thing Good luck with that Good luck to everybody That's a really hard puzzle to solve

I think for a guy like Imovov too What we're seeing is this version of him That learned a lot from the Strickland fight You know I mean, I think a guy like that We got a need in the balls Did he?

Yeah I think a guy like that Goes through a loss like that And he's like, okay I got to up my cardio I got to up my pace I got to not let people push me around I got to learn from that

I didn't expect that Because if you see strick on the outside You don't know And that's what I think That's where fighters make Their biggest growth Either they make so much growth And get so much better

To become contenders Or they go the fucking opposite way That's why I'm hoping it happens With Bow Nickel If I have to watch him fucking strike again. I'm going to freak the fuck out. Dude, use your goddamn grappling, man. Get

with someone to help you with your grappling. They put him in there fast too. Like, they're super fast. Like, RDR. It's the UFC, baby. But that's the thing that, like, Ed Torr says it. Like, if you go to the UFC, be ready to fight anybody they offer. Don't say no to anybody. Otherwise,

don't come. But is that smart? If you're developing a fighter? It makes no sense. It's not really smart. But the thing is, like, some guys can pull it off like John, right? So John did it. You know, I remember John against Gustafsson or Bonner? No, Guzmao, like one of his first fights. And I remember thinking, like, where is this guy coming from?

Like, this is crazy. This guy is so good. Well, you saw him against Jake O'Brien. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Boom. Yeah.

Oh, bro. He was something special. So that guy got thrown right into the fire. 22 years old fight Shogun, you know, in New Jersey, wins the title. It's crazy. But you're in the big leagues. but he's a freak most guys

if you were raising them and training them you would you know if you were raising them through the career you'd be like we need to test you like boxing does like we need to test you against a real solid grappler. They've done that with Patty Pimlet now they're doing that they've done well with him they do well with Sugar Sean O'Malley

because they I think the UFC's learned like with Darren Tilt he's such a talent look who he's doing now they pushed him way too fast way too fucking fast and it fucks these guys up bro Till can fucking strike he can crack Man, he's made a career for himself. He can strike.

Yeah. And that knockout of Luke Rockhold was crazy. Brutal. That was crazy. I think the UFC did learn, but the UFC can only do so much. They can only do so much. And the sugar shone, they're all right, here's Peter Young. I think Darren had neat problems, too.

I think that's part of the thing. He asked for his release so he could get on that assaye and get his injuries and heal up. That makes sense. Because he's like, I can't do this because he has a test me all time. Release me. They didn't cut him. He asked for his release. Most people think he was cut.

He asked for his release. Oh, that makes sense. And I was just starching dudes outside the UFC. Bro, he looks so good against Rockholds. I'm like, this guy might have a career as a legitimate boxer. Because, like, he started off as a Muay guy. He actually had some boxing, some boxing bouts too. Yeah, he's good, man.

He's fucking good. You want to what, vouch next? Yeah, Carl Frotch. But Carl Frotch is 150 years old. You guys are missing out. These guys are in each other's grill right now. I know. We are missing.

They're at mid-distance here, just banging it out. great defense how the defense is outstanding I just think this is great I just think Kamsat eats these guys he takes him down he takes him down if you're that close to him he finishes both of them

it just says what it is you think so that's it that's it bro he looks good but it's the difference in like his faints like as he's moving in everything's very precise very much

he does I like that that's nice Oh, I poke You like his footwork, right? Joe, it's Taekwondo He's got this stutter step That he does when he's coming in Where you think he's coming in

And you relax a second And he like He lulls you to sleep a little bit Yeah, it's high level This kid is a stud Oh, that sucks See, this is where you like Let that time run, baby

Let's get this lung capacity back Let's slow this heart rate down Let them boo That's fine right if you're in his corner yeah yeah let him boo let him boo let him boo no one ever takes a full five ever it's never been done really it's never been done that's crazy no one's taking the full five wow it's a lot of pressure dude five minutes was a long time when you're in there to fucking plus the crowd like i've been kicked the nuts by gonzag i poked in the eye by croakop that's

and you think you want the five minutes and the crowd's like fuck you like okay i'm good not fine i'm good and you're not god God, these guys are evenly matched. That was a pretty deep shot. Yeah, it was. He got in well, but he didn't fully commit to it. And we are only in round three of a five-round fight. He doesn't want a gas.

I really don't know how I score this at this point. Because we haven't barely been paying attention. No, I'm in Washington. From the small fraction I see, Imovaz up two rounds. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I thought he definitely. He definitely won that last round.

Yes. He's landing the more effective strikes. But again, you ain't getting a title shot against Hamlet fighting like this. It's just the... Well, it depends on how it ends. Yeah, correct. Who's RDR fighting again? Fluffy Hernandez.

Oh, oh, there you go. And this is where... Again, who knows, Joe? You know, you're the expert. But when you said RDR's the best match for Hamzot, I think it's his easiest. Really? Yeah. Wow.

I think he knocks him out cold. Oh, standing. Yeah. I don't think you bother. Who's that? Yeah. That's a good point. He's been knocked out before.

He got dropped by Whitaker. And the difference in between his stand-up versus Hamz-Stand-up is pretty significant. Also, the fact that RDR will be concerned about the takedown. Yes. Means that he's going to be. Open it to really open up standing. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, if you watch what Hamzot does, those guys, like those- Cheryl. The second he does start to get comfortable standing is when Hamzot put him down. That Mershot fight? He went, boom, bam. Yeah, what he knows, he's got an advantage, he can strike.

He can strike, it's clean, fast. And he loves to strike, like, even against DDP, he's like, let me fucking light this guy up. You know? Sruiken's like, no, no, no, just keep doing what you're doing, dude. Let's get to check and get it the fuck out of it. And he's getting all the criticism from the fan base. You're boring, boring champion. You know?

He has the pedigree to do it. Yeah, he does. I mean, won't you're champion? That's the most important thing. Yes. Just keep winning. Now you're making real money. I'm curious what the UFC is going to do with the payout because his pay-per-view points before

and now that's gone, you know? Right. Do you think they do it based on how many people watch? That's weird, right? But that's the best way to do it. Right? So it's like ratings on a TV show. If you've got friends ratings, you get a lot of money.

You get a percentage of the ad revenue? I don't know how you would do it. It's way above my TV. I don't know how you would do it, but I would imagine something like that would be reasonable. The idea is that, like, if more money is being acquired by the company, if they're making more money now, it would be great if the fighters get paid more money. That just makes sense. And I think the UFC is going to do that. They're going to do it.

Even if the UFC doubled everybody's pay, they're still only putting out 50% of overall pay. So for the UFC, it's a win-win. We're always running this. We're always more busy with this, man. He's way more busy. looks good in this round yeah and this is the thing it's like these rounds they you know this is only a minute in and this is the fourth yeah so he's got a lot of fighting left to go and barrault's been busy but joe you'll hear you'll hear guys argue fighter pay and they compare it to the nfl and

NBA and they go it should be 50 50 and i i don't agree with that because any league that's ever done above what the ufc's done they're all out of business there's only one promotion ever in the history of fighting that's right that makes a profits the UFC. And it's not the NFL. It's not the NBA. It's different. So it's hard to argue that they should do it any different. Again, even if they doubled everybody's pay, it's only 15% of the profit. They can do it. It's nothing. And you can always fight somewhere else. That's a tricky one you could. Yeah, you could. Yeah, that's a good argument. But then it's like, if you want to look at your overall career, like what your potential for stardom is, there's no

question if you go to this just elite guys that got paid really well in the pfl that nobody knows who they are and then maybe they made more money than the UFC but they won't get the same kind of sponsors they won't get the same assignment close you're out you're basically you went from the NFL to CFL yeah I mean I I I see both sides but at the end of the day you want to make Connor money yep do Connor ship correct that's true oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh boy himov gives us back though oh these dudes are throwing down damn these dudes are throwing down God excellent

His defense is such a high level fight. They're both their defense is really good, really good. They're just strictly boxing basically right now. Not a whole lot of kicks, right? No, too close. Also, neither guy can get the other down. They've tried. It's also tiring.

Yeah. My vote was throwing some kicks earlier. He threw a lot of front kicks to the body, too. They keep tying up like this, but there's no like real shots. you know right they're just grappling against cage giving rest both have great cardio exhaust oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

dude damn that was a nice one too not connected oh god somebody's gonna get you're open up now oh these boys are swinging this is they're very close to getting cracked each one of those punches is missing by an inch Yep.

God. This is when it's the most terrifying if a guy has a giant advantage when you're like deep into the fourth and you're exhausted and he's got a giant strike to the advantage. He just got caught again. And maybe he tried taking him down

and it didn't work out. So Imovov was born in Dagestan but then moved to France? Is that how his French citizenship? Okay, that's a longest time. from when he's not yeah but that's enough you got the soul yeah of the country in his bones culture of work ethic well it's like what a history of combat sports man daggistan yeah it's crazy it's not a big place

Armenia Azerbaijan mm-hmm Armenian I think how many Armenians have been fighters both fight wrestling and boxing wrestling kickboxing MMA a huge part of the culture same with Azerbaijan same I also love Armenians back in L.A. They were real men. They're great. They were men. You ever see in, this is like probably two years ago in L.A.,

they tried bringing in like the trans shit into Armenian district. Did you see what happened? Do you see all the hairy Armenians? Just a line of G-wagon showed to the school. Just colonel G-waggland. They don't fuck around. They enjoy that. Armenians aren't here in a P-Faddy.

Yeah. They would, they're like, no, this ain't happening. No, not with our kids. School board, but our bad. Yeah, bitch. Good luck with that. Don't fuck with the Armenians. Yeah.

They're a tight group. Tight group. Yep. Had to be. Yeah, they tried bringing in, like, safe rooms in Armenians. Oh, oh. I just caught him with a nice left hook

and at her right hand. God, they're a couple of rugged fucks. Their faces look pretty clean. Probably it was a little more beat up. Yeah. Dude. Kid me right now? But imagine how much

of much of time this takes off your fighting career versus if they just grappled the whole fight oh yeah oh yeah well not just your fighting career man your your whole life your life yeah your brain yeah i mean this is a car accident when you think about the kind of pressure that this fight puts on your just every yeah everything your lungs your heart your brain your bones But what a thing But you're not even considering the eight weeks in camp Right

You're going in there The fight's just One part of it The camp Fucks you up You have If you have hard enough Training partners

You're getting fucked up In camp What was the worst injury You ever went into a fight with I got I got knocked out Three days before I fought

No Giro Oh my God And I got knocked out Four days Before I fought Rothwell Oh my god Shane Carwin Sir

Oh my god That is so I would watch him sparred these giants And they would go full And I was just like so horrified And you didn't even warm up You guys would just start banging I was like are you fucking kidding

That is so ridiculous He literally wouldn't warm up I'm not kidding It's so ridiculous to fight three Three days after being chaoed That's so crazy We just didn't know any better And then people like

Oh shop doesn't have a chin It's like yeah Yes and no Fuck you yeah I had knocked out by Carwin right before this You had your fucking nose shattered by Crow cop

it's just such a nutty sport man last round it's also the best sport it's the best sport yeah I mean it's everything the thing is sparring in practice correct it's everything yeah it requires everything that's for sure well the thing is it's like it transcends all languages cultures everything everybody

everybody can watch this know exactly what's happening but also to your point Joe you're watching this you're knowing these guys are taking years off their life yep like that's what you're dealing with I love when people say horseback riding uses every muscle in your like there's some fights like just inge tony ferguson that are hard to watch right it's hard to watch that's hard because it should have been stopped yeah

waiting for well it that's also how this game goes it's how the game goes he's tough he didn't want to quit he was trying to fight to the bitter end oh my god that's the rory and robbie luller oh my god that's the ultimate example that that's like that's also like that's like you lost five years of your life off that

boxing they would stop the game for that's the name of the fucking game yeah but it's like when it's expressed that purely yeah it's like something special to watch it means a horrifically violent fight the two fights that one was the ferguson gaichi fight and the other was the ortega olovsky uh vulcanowski fight that was awful i would have stopped that way earlier we knew who the winner was there's a few fights where you just go oh i wish this guy would just stop just the corner would say this isn't enough that's when your corner has to throw in the towel fighters are too tough for their own good.

Or fucking Frankie and Gray Manor. Oh, my God. But he won. But imagine if he's on the towel then. Yeah, exactly. He's done the towel, then he fucking loses. Bro, in his prime Frankie Edgar was a fucking durable dude. And the thing about him was he was a real 155.

He wouldn't stock weight. An actual 55. He actually weighed 155. He's beating these dudes who were cut in crazy weight. Didn't he fight 45? He did eventually. He did eventually. Later, yeah.

And then he fought 35. Yep. He's about to fight bare knuckle, right? he's getting a million bucks though is he really yep whoa for real for real for real damn i get it poked again yeah me too fuck yeah i get it three three two minute rounds fuck yeah i get in the eye again for hall you got a poke you might have to get my point he's fighting jimmy rivera who's no punk but million bucks they're gonna give you a good matchup jimmy river was good when he was in the ufc he's on my face solid striker yeah and like very compact yeah

Dude. Needing the balls, poke twice. Fuck. He's going to get my point. Sometimes I think I have a problem because I watch every fight. Prelims up. I watch every fight. Then I'll watch BYB backyard brawling.

I'll watch BKFC. Whatever fight, I'll just, I watch all of it. So you think you have a problem because you like it? I can't get enough of it. We're all watching it right now. We're having fun. Like, why would that be bad? Yeah.

But like I'll go home and watch the prelims and shit. I probably will too. Yeah. There's a few fighters. on the prelims that I'd like to check out. And then I also like to watch some of the fights that I was talking through. Me too.

Yeah, you haven't lost your enthusiasm for watching fights ever. Mike, Jeremy Stevens, fucking take my moaties. Mike's jacked. That is going to be crazy. It's tough to watch the chicks turn each other into a pulp. I don't like.

Especially when Paige Van Aet was fighting, I'm like, please don't know. Save your face, girl. When they're ugly, it's fucked up the same. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, bro. Bro, these guys are cracking each other. Oh, boy. That's going to be the only clip.

Watch your fingers, bro. He's got to watch his fucking fingers, man. Annihilated. So what is he doing? Is he sticking his hands forward? Yes, every time he comes through, he comes in with those fingers. That's a big fucking problem. He's got his, he's poking his hands out.

You can't do that. Oh, my God, he's totally doing it. No, it's a big problem because it fucks your whole, your rhythm up and everything else. Also, if you can take advantage of it. Bro, he's doing it again. I know. It's also a way to become world champion. That's John Joe.

He keeps getting to body locks, and he, like, locks his hand, and he unlocks it. He must feel some kind of danger. There's no proper shots. Barhalo's worrying about those fucking fingers now. He, like, shoots a shitty shot and legs up to the way as well. And then let's go. And then let's go. I know, it's very strange.

Like, a takedown would be big. Huge. Yeah. It is kind of weird that Goddard isn't, like, saying anything while he's extending his fingers. Yeah, get those fucking fingers out of my face, dude. You're not, literally not supposed to do that. I know. That's.

I mean, what is the law? I think that is the rule. You can't be doing this when people are trying to extend your hand. You can't go out like this. You're up? No. No.

Can't extend any fingers now. Can you do this? Because now every time you go in, you don't worry about getting pumped in your eye. Well, why do we have extended fingers in the first place? Why don't we cover those things with leather? We've been over this, man. Yeah, we didn't cover it again.

Someone's not listening to us. Look, eye pokes a real problem But the fingers like this They don't help you with grappling You don't do this Here's the problem So they changed the gloves before Knockdowns went down like 60%

So UFC's all fuck that But the real issue is As soon as Mov touches his eye You should automatically deduct a point I guarantee you he doesn't do it again The reason he's getting away with it is because Hey don't do that again He's like yeah no doubt

That's a very good one too Done three times in a row That's true too If you take if there's no If there's absolutely black and white, you touch their fucking eye, you lose a point, guys are going to stop doing it. 100%. But they're too Lucy Goosey. You've got to take them down here.

And nutshots, too. Any nutshot, fence grab, any of that shit, would take a point. It's not even up for debate. The thing about nutshot, with the proper cup, you don't even get hurt, but you can pretend you got hurt. Yep. And then you get that. Six seconds. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, he caught him twice.

Oh, shit. Oh, no. Oh, no. what a fight what a fight dude that was a crazy fight i'm involved decision it's like i told you imov decision i'm thinking maybe i'm above here i don't know but yeah it looked like you moved like when it when a fight like that like it's almost like it takes a couple of seconds for these dudes could chill and hug each other oh yeah you know what i mean like for a couple seconds like yeah that was like remember robbie waller after he fought fucking uh was it

uh henderson uh johnny hendricks johnny hendricks yeah and and just after he won after the fight. He just kept looking at him like this, just sitting there with his lip ball fucking, I mean, he's so game. Robbie Lawler, I don't know if you make a human being tougher than Robbie Lawler. Animal in his prime. One of the greatest knockouts of all times, him versus Melvin Man. Oh my God, and Melvin

Minos were eating his legs up. He was eating his legs up. Like bowling pants. And remember in New York when they were protesting and he was on the bus? No. Oh, yeah. He was on the bus. They're, you know, they're protesting on the streets and there was a UFC fucking like black van.

filled with fighters and robbie lawler's one of them and everyone's like oh my god they're about to break in and he goes sit down conserve your energy we're gonna need it because those doors open they're gonna have problems and think of about robbie loller walks off that fucking boss good luck and some blue-haired ladies like you son of a bitch yeah yeah enjoy that he can beat up a quiet what was that protest about was it a gaza protest was that what it was no it was black lives matter i think was it yeah so what year was this and they do matter joe i've always had what what year was that when all the chaos is going on

has that always been there that that guy that picture yeah really yeah Palestinian protest yeah and the fighters have nothing to do with it they're just trying to get to the arena so it was a Gaza thing so this was what time was this what year was this Jeremy? 2 years ago 20 23 yeah wow it's that crazy that Gaza shit's been going on that dude have you seen what Gaza looks like now like the surface of the moon decision oh here it goes 49 46 seems like unanimous decision imovov for sure

Nassardine imamov wow he's not getting called it like yeah you called it well I mean who else then who's getting the winner of already are fluffy well it really depends on what that fight looks like yeah because this was a fucking war this was a good war he might not have stopped him but he put on a show both of their stock went out the they both went after it yeah it was a good fight you didn't think it was a good fight it's a good fight it's a good fight it ain't getting get you a title shot hmm interesting well what would they sought the UFC's standards okay but like who is the big star behind these guys now behind imovov so imovov just has this great performance he's ranked number two he's on tv right who's the big star other than him

Do you mean to fight? I could leap, probably, could jump them? Fluffy and RDR. If there's a finish there, they're guaranteed to get it. If they get a finish, which that fight should be a finish. But let's say that one's boring, too. Your biggest star is Strickland. Right.

He's the biggest star. And he beat him of us. And he'll talk shit. Right. And we can build that fight for a pay-per-view. I wonder if you can get right back in there like that. He comes back in November, December. Right, but does he go right back into a title shot or does he have to fight somebody?

Because he lost to Dreykis. Yep. He hasn't lost anybody since then. Uh-uh. That was quite a while ago. And that fight with Drichus was pretty close. I had him win in the first one. Yeah.

You know, he also had staff going into that side of the fight. Which is a way bigger deal than you would think. Yeah, an average person would think. Yeah, drained your cardio. Just because of the, you've got to take the antibiotics and fucks me do. The antibiotics and just the staff itself. Zaps your energy and cardio. Really?

Yeah. And you're also fighting one of the most physical guys in the division who's a fucking bulldog. Drichus is an animal. Yeah. He never gets tired. He just fucking throwing haymakers at you. He keeps punching. What do you do with DDP now?

I don't know. It's a good question. It is it crazy? Like, he was UFC champion, the king of the world, on top, and then just gets manhandled for five rounds. He's going to turn to a gatekeeper until he thinks he's ready for a title shot again. If Hamzaa keeps beating. But it's tough if he needs Hamzaa to either move up or move on, you know, because no one wants to see that for five rounds. Well, let me say this.

You're a grappling expert. If they hired you, if they said, listen, we know we have to make some changes and we want a real genius to look at my game. What can I do? If I work with DDP seven days a week for a year, Jesus Christ. He could be a bare minimum competitive with the comments out that he fought. At the bare minimum.

But then remember, if he does that with you seven days a week, he has to forego all his other shit. Probably should do that anyway. Yep. Right? How about that? What a return story that is? Yeah, I agree. So that's the issue is you need to split everything up.

But right now there's such a discrepancy in the grappling that needs to take priority. Like, he could do grappling seven days a week and then spend time keeping his other skill sharp or striking sharp. In the morning. But he just got dominated across the board when he took the grappling. Like he couldn't, not only could you not stop. takedown, but he also couldn't get up. And when he did get position on Hamzat, he couldn't hold it.

Correct. I wonder what's like a protocol. Like, if you continue to add work, like if you start off with 10 miles, then you want to work to 11 and 12 and 13, you start off like training in MMA. You start off at this pace, and then you have a heart rate monitor on.

You want to push it faster and hard. I wonder what the fucking threshold is if we've even seen it yet. I really wonder. Because we've always had these ideas before guys like Marab that there's these physical limitations That a guy can't fight every minute of every round But yeah, they can so are we there yet or is this like one of those things where no one knows yet because they haven't limited up here Yeah, yeah because I mean sports like the four minute mile

Oh You know there's there's things like that yeah where guys just have to see it they go hold on that's possible Right, and then like well if he can do it. I can do it Well the sports only shared years old. I know I'm not nuts and And it really in this form is only 20 years old Because like 2005 go back and watch a 2005 UFC fight It's pretty different pretty different than what you've seen yeah pretty different

The athletes the technique it's there's nothing like this there's no other sport like this If you look at the sport now like you have guys who are like specialists in one thing and then You know like Pereira's a great striker and then he's like decent everywhere else or you know It could be a great grappler and then he's you know got decent striking and you know, 20 years from now, people are going to be specialists in fucking everything. Yeah, they're going to be doing it from the time of their kids. See, we've said that, but we haven't seen it. They said that 10 years ago.

They've said that, and it did, for whatever reason, you might be right, you might be right, but the specialists have always dominated. Yeah. The thing is, it's like, if you're a specialist, those people are also just meatheads, so that's another issue. Fair. But doesn't it come down to? Because those guys that are specials are so dominant in that one aspect.

that it blankets everything else so because they control where the fight's going to go like like like the the finality of of m-ma in my opinion should be a situation where a generalist m-ma fighter can be competitive with specialists across the board in every martial art so could hold it can you can hold the zone with the world's best boxer his weight world's best is just a guy his weight world's best wrestler and his weight world's best you see i don't think that's possible going listen who you're talking to dog but you might be able to just got a some autistic protege that's willing to put it so for example and they make peptides legal hours in the day so so for example like uh you know i'm saying so for

peptide for example um like with wrestling like i'm that i'm never going to be the best freestyle wrestler in in the world but under an ADCC rule set i can hang with anyone any Olympic champion under ADCC scoring criteria in a wrestling match. So, like, you're not going to be, the MMA guys won't be beating the best guys in their domain, but they can be competitive enough with the best guys in the world. Where they're not going to get finished. Yeah. Like, like, they won't, you know, if a guy is, you know, this finality I'm talking about,

if a guy is wrestling in the Olympic champion, maybe he gets taken down four times for every two that he hits. So he was losing every match, but it's a guy. at least competitive. Stuff like that. So he's getting finished, you know, for every one finish. Who's the closest it's ever come to putting it all together? Well, not.

GSP? I think, George. George and John. But I also think the only way can get to that point is getting real athletes in the UFC. Like legit athletes where guys, whether they were going to be all-stars in MLB or NFL, they start coming over to the UFC. And we're not seeing that. And it's because it's kind of the nature of the way of America.

like a set up and it's not it's not just the athletes too you they need to be extremely intelligent athletes correct correct but it's the same thing with like the reason dagestanis are so dominant in fighting is because they're not their athletes aren't playing football they're not playing soccer they're not playing baseball they're literally all all those young men are just doing wrestling it's embraced by the culture yeah and here in america like you like i've talked to eddie about it like i'm like your kid's not fucking savant and jiu-s like no because friends aren't doing it they want to do what their friends are doing so it's friends playing baseball so he played baseball yeah yeah you can't cool so it's a

cultural thing yeah you can't compete the fucking national sport is fucking people up no that's like they're so into it can't compete with us when it comes to other sports not even fucking close no not even close put a basketball good luck yeah didn't they do a football game in salpalo yesterday yeah they did that's wild chief charges that's wild no they lost really yeah Have you ever been to a, because they watch soccer. Do you ever been to a football game? Like a soccer game, rather? No.

What they call football? No. Like a real one? Yeah, real one. Have you been? Yeah. Is it cool? It's fun.

First of all, there's no breaks. Like, you know why they can't have it on TV? Because there's no room for commercials. They don't take time off. You have to be in shape. I love watching the World Cup. They average 10 miles. These dudes all have crazy fucking legs.

Like ridiculous and the streamlined upper bodies and they're just fucking cardio machine. Soccer, if you see soccer in Europe, those kids start at people like messy and all of them. They start at six, even younger, and they go to special schools. Well, all they do is play soccer. That's the only thing. So I have a tiger got a buddy in L.A. And his dad was from England. And he was the best seven-year-old I've ever seen in soccer.

I was like, what the fuck are we doing? His dad played semi-pro. So he grew up doing it. His footwork, I was like, this is insane. And then he just wasn't at school one day. I'm like, where the fuck is this kid at? And Tiger's like, oh, he moved to England. So I text his dad who has buddies with him.

I'm like, yo, man, what the fuck? He's like, oh, Manchester United picked him up. I'm like, yeah, he's seven. He goes, yeah, he's in the feeder program. They take the feeder program. It goes all the way up, all the way up. And those kids, but most of those kids don't make it. So what happens is you play your whole life and you don't make it on the Premier League.

And now you're just a good soccer player. And thanks for the time. Tennis is the same way. But there's no guarantee in anything. Nothing. Nothing. If you can't. Tennis is the same way.

Tennis is the same way. It's a privilege. It's not a right. Pro sports are very cutthroat. Yeah. And the most cutthroat is when you're fucking throwing bones at each other inside a cage in your underwear. This is the most cutthroat of all. And the shortest career span.

Yeah. Year and a half. Yeah. It's the thing about someone like Aaron Pico who was wrestling on the international circuit at 16 years old. and boxing so that he was raised. Golden Globet. Yeah. He was amazing. And so his skill set is so complete. But then there are those little factors, right?

You rush. Maybe you're, maybe when in the big show, you kind of, you, you. Yeah, but forget about him. What about Lorone? Lorone has been quietly one of the most elite guys that no one talks about in that division. But because that division's too crazy. That division is just filled with animals. It's all assassins. It's like a fucking just a killer's den. Yeah.

So Lorone had to make a big statement, and that was a big one. But to Gordon's point, like when you're talking about like smart fighters, that's the difference. Like a John Jones IQs through the fucking roof. Yeah. Tom Aswell. Like, like, Izzy's a very smart guy. How you train. Strickland is a smart guy.

His fight IQ is very high. Staying injury free is a huge thing. Strickland is invested all his money, too, you know. Wicked smart. Yeah, he's, of course. Yeah, you think he's an idiot because he says crazy shit, but that's also why he's Smart of a fox. Yeah.

Playing the game. Any of those guys. Like, I always look at, like, how well do you stay injury-free? You know, how do you train? How much damage do you take in training while getting better? It's a whole science. That's what I was talking to what I love about Brian Shaw. He deadlifting 1,200 pounds for 13 years in a row.

And one of the few guys who really didn't get injured. That's nice, but he's friends with Jordan Peterson. So pass. I know, pass. Pass. Hard pass. Exactly. How big is he, by the way?

Remember, I brought him to the green. dude it's not even a human it's so weird vikings like whatever whatever those Denver water thing yeah it's something from the brine show yeah something from the bible did you i told him a private oh you did right what was that like i made i'm drilled big den i'm like i'm like i'm like fucking that's funny he was like i want to do m-ma so he's like we did like a little bit oh that's right yeah m-m-a fight we did like some stuff on like kind of guitar may like arm triangles from mount and we did some war wrestling stuff and then his fight that didn't happen right no it didn't happen he got swindled but he he was

he was serious, I brought him with Cody Donovan I bought him, he went to high altitude. Bro, he's 400 pounds. He was drilling with fucking Big Dan on the wall and I'm like showing him like dumping a single as the guy's leg, second leg comes towards you, locking a double, putting him down. And I'm just like, I grab Dan and I just like circle him down.

Dude, Dan's 6 foot 7, 330 pounds. So Brian just does the first move, locks both legs and just picks him up over his head. He's like, whoop and fucking puts him down on the ground. He did the same thing with Derek Wolf. Derek Wolf's All-Star him, 285, pounds like you know Viking and just picked them up

Derek was like it's it's so suffocating he just got underhooks and I'm going to pick you up and move you over here and just throw I mean you're not doing anything he's too big he's too big so that's like in the Bible that's right he's he's he's Goliath yeah the guys who come over the hill and everyone who runs because they're giants

they did a they did a Dexterous ass they can't be just one of him right what he is is like the echoes of the past well they they looked at his bones his bone density they doesn't have giantism actually it's a different thing he had his bone density is uh is is they've never quite seen anything like it he has the i think the densest bones they've ever recorded they said it's one in five hundred million people have bones that dense he's him and a hippo him and like four other

dudes on earth he's got a rino he's got rhino he's a real freak but it's weird just when you're standing next to him like okay this is a different thing like this is a gorilla oh this is a chip you ever hear annie galpin talk about they took a muscle tissue from one of these one of the greatest Olympic lifters of all time and this guy not only been training but have been taken a certain you know certain Russian concoctions and they found that his muscle fibers were akin to a rhinos like the density were akin to I'm going to say it again a fucking rhino ladies gentlemen like it was a different density some people are just different like I'm around kids all the time you can just grab a kid and you're like dude what the

You're pretty bad bad. That's how I saw my grapple fucking Thor. Oh, yeah, that's another guy, right? It was like, the best part is, he's like, I want to do a private. I was at the, I was at the PI because we were doing UFC Fight Pass the next day. So I had to compete the next day. So I taught him private, I'm like, I can't train because John will kill me if I get hurt,

and you're pretty likely to injure me because you're fucking 450 pounds. He's so big. So we do a private, and the camera guy's like, can we just do one roll? Can we just do one roll? So I'm like, look around, and like, I see John, like, doing his fucking workout on the, in the corner, and I'm just like, all right, he's like 100 feet away. He probably won't see us start rolling. But if we were already rolling, I'd already be too late.

I'm like, all right, fucking, let's do it. And that guy is just like, I think he was close to 400 pounds, maybe when we... Good God. Last time I saw his... I think I saw it, but you got him. And I let him start in top side control because we were doing side control. First of all, I was doing it... I was teaching him and Martins Lichis, or I don't know how to pronounce his last name,

and other strong men, side control escapes. And they immediately, I'm like... just drill the move they immediately just one of them's bottom side control one of them's top side control and it just immediately degenerates into a full live roll they're just fighting from side control for a full hour and I'm like I just drilled the move and they're like they just can't do it so I let them both start from top side control so Thor locks on from top side control and I'm like all right go and he squeezes me so hard that I'm like if he could do this for 20 seconds he's going to asphyxiate me just by like just like my my lungs cannot expand from this because

position. So, like, I just, like, brought my knee knell together and, like, swept them and, and, like, mounted him. I saw him right after. I finished him in, like, 30 seconds. And I did it with Martins, too. He actually wrestled in high school. So he was a little bit more self, like, aware, like, with his body. He was actually a little bit harder to deal with. But I hit, like, a six sweep on him. And, like, as I went, he, like, used the momentum and just, like, rolled through. I had, like, perfect body position. He, like, went to go roll through. And I'm like, well, guess we're going back on bottom. And then, like, I rolled them through again and then adjusted the second time but it's it was interesting for sure i saw thor i love that i did i took you 30

seconds though it's like it was kind of tough because it took me 30 seconds i did a photo shoot with thor right after he rolled with you and he was telling me about it he's like i'm with this gordon wrang i'm like that's my buddy i said you know he's like the michael jrond jujitsu he's i i don't understand man you had me just doing all this stuff and i go you thought you were going to do well and he goes well yeah i'm like oh buddy no you just don't know you just don't know fucking chance dude i was like and he's probably going up 50% man yeah well that's like that's like they just don't know they had a pro come in a big guy he he was a male stripper but he had a couple pro fights in boxing and he knocked he he brought another guy and he knocked the dude out

and you brought a guy in the spa yeah you're not supposed to do that so wayne mcculloch who fought at one 19 yeah way no this was at maybe uh maybe it's boxenberg yeah way no this was at maybe uh I think it might have been at, no, it was at Gloveworks. You're doing Tybo? And, yeah, I was, but he wasn't. I was. And he goes, Wayne goes, hey, we don't do that here. You don't take it easy?

And the guy went like this to Wayne, stuck his tongue out, knocked his buddy out again. Really dangerous. Twice. Yes, really dangerous. So Wayne goes, Wayne goes, stay in the ring. And doesn't even put headgear on. And this giant dude, like 220 just jacked and juiced and killed. He's had this boxing.

and Wayne just throws and Wayne just goes that and hit him in the fucking in the liver and apparently I wasn't there I heard that he went he made this high pitch just fell to the ground

and that was all she wrote kids just fucking ate his liver and said don't do that in my gym and just got the fuck out guys just don't know yeah yeah that's crazy don't fuck around there's so many nuts that come into gyms

and want to spar bro Tim uh Tim Kennedy and your boy Shane invited me that archetype boxing and he goes bring your son I'll bring mine so when we're going the kids ago so I bring my boys there's a bunch of guys there and there's a guy and he has double knee braces on

which is always a red flag double fucking knee brace I'm like that's weird and he has his ears pairs bald head I'm like oh this can't be good double knee braces what kind of knee braces are we talking about like the ones you get from Walgreens you know where he's just like

I haven't washed up yeah yeah you're like this guy's And it was Chris Angel. But he's talking about UFC, whatever. Now, everyone in that group is a black belt. Everyone. All tough dudes. Everyone's really good.

And we're, you know, we're just kind of, we're moving around with each other. You know, it's sparring. And this new guy and Tim goes, hey, don't go with that guy. And everybody goes, dude, I didn't read my DMs. Apparently I invited him like months ago and he fucking showed up. I didn't know he's going to be here today. He goes, but I don't know him. He was trying to knock people out.

so he's going with his friend Shane Shane Steiner yeah and they're going I see him grab Shane's head and go boom boom and Shane's like Shane's very nice Shane's super nice and we're like what the fuck collar tie? Yeah I mean he's going and you never do that we're just touch sparring

no he's going to be full go so I'm like oh buddy and then Tim goes stop stops around a little you stop he goes you and me you and me you and me are going to go so I get my son I go watch this watch this he goes why you go just watch watch so Tim's like you're ready and the guy's like, get me, start the clock.

They're like this, and then fucking Tim, just, fuck this dude out. I'm just annihil him. He goes, you good? You good? And he goes, I'm good, man, I'm good. And he's one of these guys, he goes, I needed that. I'm like, what the fuck. And Tim, by the way, wasn't even, I saw the video

of that, and Tim was being very nice. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many nutty dudes like that. What do you think was going to happen, dude? There's so many videos online where guys don't know how to box it all and they go into a gym. What are you doing? Put the gloves on man i'm a fucking street fighter okay there's so many videos of those you see that troll that dante wilde invited to his gym was like you came in i'll fuck you up yes this little white dude

a white feeder shows up oh that kid that kid's crazy goes let's do it and wilder's like oh sign these forms so you don't sue me okay put your gloves on and just fucking well he was saying he was saying shit about his daughter and that guy that guy's a mess he's actually truly crazy that doesn't matter a piece of shit he just invited him into your life congratulations yeah yeah yeah i know Fucking nut back They're all nuts Deonté and Francis Is probably the only fight

That I'd be interested in seeing From either one of those guys right now I agree 100% Deonté Francis would be I mean maybe there's another fight for Francis In heavyweight boxing But the real fight for Francis is obviously the UFC title When was the last time Deontay fought

It's been a while Yeah He spent some hard time since he did that Iowa skia Did he fight after that Jang fight? No He got knocked out by Jang. He has a high high interest um so was that his last fight the jang fight francis and gano offered lucative

return to boxing by former world champion your power against my power you ever hear how teddy atlas talked about jante waller's power because he'll hit you he'll hit you so hard he'll hit you in the face and shatter your ankles he called it the eraser oh because he was like all the errors that he made he erases him with one punch and his technique's not great back foot's off the ground, but just fucking whack. It's extraordinary. When he fought that, was that Brazil? I was working for a showtime. They sat me and my brother

in New York next to that Brazil's family. And I didn't know it. And he's walking out, there's only people cheering. And I'm like, oh no, my brother goes on. I'm like, we're next to fucking Brazil. This is a dead man walking. This can be the worst fucking time ever. But it shows you the chin that Tyson Fury has. Because

Tyson Fury ate one shot that on the top of the head that went all the way down to his fat, it's fat wiggled. Crazy thing in the world. Just like an earthquake. It went through his body. It gets up like the Undertaker. It's the craziest shit I've ever seen my life.

Well, that was the first fight. This was the second fight where he got dropped, I think, three times. Yeah. Still came back and knocked him out. Wild. Wild. His chin is insane. He took that left hook, went down, and everybody's like, well, it's definitely over.

He took a right hand and then a left hook, right? Wasn't that what it was? Left hook on the way down. Flat. Like, he's out cold. Out, out. Rises and then wins the remainder of the round. Wow.

And then realized, in winning the remainder of the round. into the round how to fight him that's right get him back and up just push him push him forward yeah I think he's done yeah I think he's done he was thinking about one more Usick fight he was talking about usick he's the closest than anybody's to solving Usik the early rounds that first fight it looked like he was solving him yeah usick is so special he's special oh he's I watched them break like real boxers break down what he does like how the traps he said never lost sir it's unreal cruiser weight heavyweight Olympics.

That's never seen to feed. Fought it started at 88. I mean, he's a natural cruiser rate or something. He's not even a... Yeah, he fought Betterbeave in the Olympics. Yeah. Better Veevee is another one.

Better V is another one. He's another one. He just throws ones and twos and just fucking bring... Oh, dude, three, four years ago, he was the scariest fucking one being alive. Oh, my God. But he's 40. Yeah. But he's obviously 40, you know...

Different 40. He's not getting the Golden Snitch sniffing around his peepee. Dude. Golden Snitch is nowhere to be found this day. No. I don't know what they do. Because when he's in those fights with Bevall, what kind of testing do they do? Be cool, man. Because they're talking about a trilogy, man.

Do you think I'd be cool? I don't know, man. You know, this is the thing, Gordon. Like what they're doing with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu on this UFC thing where you have to get drug tested. Like, are they drug testing everybody? They said they were going to start testing in 2026. What that means, I don't know.

But that means that the only... They should have a multiple choice test. It means that they're going to have to sign people exclusive. It's also, Jiu-Jitsu has been juicy for so long. Like there's so many guys that are juicy that are in Jiu-Jitsu. It's like... Like the last 30 years. This is all going to be caveman talk because they have that two things coming.

One is that peptide that you can take and you will, it literally has no endocrine. It doesn't change your endocrine thing. I think it blocks your myostatin. So you're going to be able to build muscle with almost no sound. crazy. And then the second thing is with this CRISPR Cas9 shit, now if you have like high cholesterol, they can get your liver to stop making the kind of cholesterol. You become that person that makes very little cholesterol and has low cholesterol naturally. And so that's what they're going to do. So statins are going to be a thing of the past as well. Because with Christopher

Cas9, you can get one quick gene editing thing and it's coming down the pipe fast. Not just that. Gary Nolan was on here and he does cancer research. He's out of Stanford. One of the things he was talking about was they're going to develop a cream that you could rub on your skin. that doesn't make you so you're no longer susceptible to sun radiation the way yeah because he's got like that weird gene where he has a lot of melanoma all over his skin because he has an actual expression of a gene that like is you're much more likely to get it and he was saying he's got like cuts all over his body where they have to always cut these things off yeah but that's a gene they can edit that and they can edit it with a cream and I says is this possible he's like oh yeah it's going to happen I can't wait come on

Well, they're going to turn old ladies in the hot again. That's going to get weird. Did you hear the guy who owns the L.A. Times who has all those cancer patents? He said they've got this where they boost your helper T-cell. And Newsweek did an article about this. They are, first of all, they're curing bladder cancer. How old is she? That's Martha Stewart?

84. Is that a real picture? Is that like an Instagram filter? She just posted it like this week. That's crazy. That's insane. Money, money, money, mine. But the body still sucks.

Money. The body still sucks. How do you know, Brian? Don't be so negative. Yeah, don't be a hater. How do you know? Maybe she had a banging body under there. But that 80-year-old skin just feels a little different.

Not when you get that super special. CRISPR cream. That young crisper cream all over your body. We're going to be 80 and jacked, buddy. It's going to come back. You and I. 80 and jacked and smelling like a baby. You're going to smell like a baby.

What's the side effects? What if they start focused on hair, B? Huh? You guys get back. Both have long locks. I would shave my head even from my hair now. That's coming down the pipe too. You're too.

No, no, they got the peptide. No, but I like it. No, but you can't. But the thing is like, I don't want to talk to it. Fucking haircutter. You ever been kidnapped where they just hold you there? I told her, you are not gonna fucking treat me like that. Good for you, stand your ground.

Oh my God. Oh my God. You're never 40 minutes. Hey, you're fucking trapped. Meanwhile, you can't go anywhere. They fucking sip, sips, sit, well, you. They said, well, you know, I get it. I see your point.

She's out of line. She's definitely out of line. They got that peptide that also you rub on your thing that grows... UCLA. Revives new hair. I can't wait. Yeah, they've developed some sort of drug that actually grows, like, legitimate hair. They're revitalizes your follicles completely.

They're turning back. They're taking skin and making skin young again. They're doing weird shit, man. Yeah. Damn, she's got the gobble. Look, this is... This one is 82. This one is 83, and then this one is 84.

Is she getting something done every year, or are they just like... I hope so. She's really dedicated to the cause. She's trying to up her craft. But look at Chris Jenner. She's the Gordon Ride of plastic surgery. Yeah, man. She's got a lot of money. No days off.

No time off. She's got a lot of money. If I can pay my mortgage off. She wants to look hot. You know what I mean? She wants to look hot. Yeah. Let's go.

I got bills. Yeah. The thing is like, what is your, you know, what is your body pot? Like, what's the hottest body an 80-year-old woman has ever had? Like, what's a... Raquel Welch, bring her up for a sec. I bet she's... That's some jeans, right?

Some, some ladies have those. How old... Sophia Lorenz jeans? Yes. Yeah. Or... Sophia Braga. Yeah, she's like 50.

She's insane. She's insane. She's insane. She's insane. I've seen her in person. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. J-Lo's a freak.

And again, look, those Latin genes, though. Yeah, it's a factor. Yeah, you ain't seen no white. girls like that i've seen a white girl i've seen an 80 year old english woman who looked at no 60 year old 60 she was beautiful i've just turned 62 i've just i've just turned 62 what is the uh accent with turn i want you to google what is the hottest 80 year old lady i just did i just did i'm fine jim's so good your google searches fuck for life oh there you go all right well there's like a dude that's coming there is that 71 year old frank zane is the hottest 80 year old lady

There's that 70-year-old. What is that? That is ridiculous. That's an 80-year-old grandpa crushes it. No, you know who's really, really amazing? Who's the guy who sings Jesse's girl? Rick Springfield. Dude, check out Rick Springfield at 72.

Oh, yeah. He's like 72 and he has no shirt on on stage. Dude, it's crazy. Whoa. Bring up Rick Springfield. He's just bodybuilders. Forget all these girls. Okay, Christy Brinkley.

She's 63. She's good. Age is a bitch. Bring up Christy Brinkley now. Shut the fuck up, Brendan. Why are you ruining everything? Look at her right there. Sixty-7.

Pretty fucking good How about that? Who's the English girl married to Q Grandy? He's in, 68. Liz Hurley. Liz Hurley. Liz Hurley. Oh, yeah, she's hot too.

Dude. She's incredible. She's a good one. She's incredible. She's probably 60, maybe my age. Keep it together, ladies. Keep it together. I know, man.

That's discipline. They have to lift weights. When you get to a certain point, the only way you're going to keep your tissue. You should always lift weights. Yeah. You got to lift weights. Oh, fuck. You should see my boy.

Here, I'm going to show you the best. She's 60. God dang I'm going to send you a video she's 60 did you see the photo of her sitting next to Bill Clinton yes and you're like oh yeah

oh yeah I'll show you the best because he was a fan of hers oh yeah I'm gonna show you the best body at 74 years old he was I'm a fan of yours I've always I've always admired what the fuck is he wearing bro he's wearing the I'm about to fuck

Elizabeth Hurley collection You're damn right he is I've always been a fan of the way you present yourself on camera Dude, he's crushing him It's incredible Weirdo man Yeah, what is that outfit? They had a bullfight

Is he a bullfighter? Is he a bullfighter? I don't know what the fuck you is Imagine you're a president, former or other And they ask you to wear that You're like, no, I'm good I think I'll wear a regular suit So I don't wind up in a fucking

Can I just wear the regular shit? Did you see the picture or the video of Cuomo giving a speech with the, I think it was Muslims, and one of the dudes he brought just had a do-rag on like this game that they're all trying to fit in, and he just was wearing a fucking blue du-rack. Oh, my God.

I'll show you the best body is 74. There's nobody. Nobody liked this. Oh my God, that's so funny. You're going to find Rick Springfield. Yeah, no, no, no. This is Shane. Shane Steiner's his father. Shane's father. Who's Shane Steiner?

Shane's my buddy, who owns the helicopter? Oh, he's rich-ass dad. You guys see his dad. I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything like it. I'm going to send you a video. How many times did Jack go off to it? Well, I'm not going to talk about it.

See you wait too long. That's a personal question. Well. Well, Jamie, how do I get this to you? Text, man. Just walk over there and have to take a screenshot. Fuck. Oh, here it is.

This is so stupid. Just walk over there to have them take a picture of your phone like he did last time. Yeah. Grandpa. Send it to Jamie, Grandpa. All right, I'm sending it. Jamie, is your airdrop on? Yeah.

Holy shit Gordon Ryan stays outside the AirDrop EcoSphere James Pro He's one of the rare birds Got a phone is that Android No it's my Android now

I still haven't switched over yet Yeah did you get it I thought you had both Yeah I do have both But I haven't been using the other one I'm going to use it as my primary phone Once I have to switch a bunch of shit over He was a world champion bull rider

He's 74 years old He was a bull rider Yeah world champion How's he not completely broken and he owns like half of austin because he's up because he's built like that and he never he never stops working out yeah it's ridiculous 74 fuck you Jesus that's ridiculous that guy looks incredible he's unbelievable I've never seen I kept looking at him last night I was like I can't get over the shit that's that's his shoulders are this wide oh yeah

that's a discipline yeah and it's the whole family do for a living he's a billionaire He's a billionaire. Which is weird, right? Steinner Ranch. The Steiner's own the largest cattle. Yeah, yeah. But they're all beautiful people. And the whole family, they're all cowboys.

You ever go to that Steiner Ranch Steakhouse? Yeah. I was there last night. I was there last night. Yeah, last night. And the nephew, Rocker, is the world champion bucking Bronco rider. His brother, Sid, is like the world champion.

He had the cameo in Yellowstone. Yeah, that's right. Oh, really? That's right. What a crazy thing to get good. The whole family's built like this. riding horses yeah bucking broncos and bulls bull riders and buck they're all wild boys because then the son shane only gets around by helicopter that's right Shane only Shane doesn't drive you used to

train at roka with us and you used to hear the helicopter coming and he's right he just lands into detention pond I was saying he picks me up every day to go work out and my neighbors like what the fuck it's he'll be there at nine exactly I got to run a friend of mine his daughter was taking this gymnastics class and one of the kids would get dropped off by helicopter that's Tim, dude, his daughter does gymnastics. That's insane. I'm like, what a flex. He's the best guy. I think there's a bunch of guys that do that, though. I don't

think it's just one. I think Austin has a weird Texas, you can just, like, land them anywhere. As long as you don't, as, I think it's like, the rules are, like, as long as you don't obviously go against any FAA rules. Don't take out any power lines. And you have, like, you have, like, the landlord or, like, just permission from the person, like, he just land a church.

He threw over my house. Didn't Tim have a helicopter for a while? That was Shane. Tim and Shane are best friends. Oh, that was Shane's helicopter. Tim will get out when he's shooting hogs. Tim will stand on the skis and shooting, Tim, and Shane's like, please wear your seatbelt. And he's like, shut up. I've done this.

That's my dad, that's just, he's so out of his mind. They try to get on skis and come down low enough to jump off the skis onto a wild pig's back with a hatchet. And they tried that and it didn't work because they missed the pig. And apparently Tim kind of fell face version of the fucking dirt. Jesus Christ. I'm going to kill a pig from your helic. They're like, you want to try that? I go, I'm not going to fucking do that.

But imagine if you had a GoPro on your head and it worked. I know. It's like, the fucking coolest thing. I can't get involved with that shooting pigs out of helicopters thing. I've seen the videos. It's pretty wild. It's fun to watch. You don't want to do it?

It just doesn't seem like the right thing to do. Well, it's pest control. First of all, the first time I would do it. I would do it. You just don't. I just can't. If I had to do it, like if I had a ranch. It's actually hard to do it too.

Because you got to shoot, I think it's the way you do it is a specific way. way. It's like not easy to get it. I thought about it because Ted Nugent invited me to it and I was like that's not the craziest fucking thing you could do in your life. Let's go pig hunting. Out of a helicopter. Well, farmers will pay to do it. That'd be cool. Farmers will pay because they decimate your corn and stuff. Remember the first time we talked about it?

Yeah. You're like, you're like, you're like, $700 trillion a year in damage to the crops. You're like, look it up, Jamie. And then it was like, it's only $3 million a year. I mean, you're both like, maybe we shouldn't be fucking kill all these pigs. It's not just $3 million. It's more than that, right?

It's got a million a year. I was reading some articles that sounded... I was reading some article that sounded like Clickbaitie bullshit, but it was about these 500-pound super hogs that are coming out of Canada. Yeah. This is like the latest thing we're supposed to be scared of. Like giant super hogs out of Canada that are invading America. Yeah, well, Canada...

But, like, how are they so big? Like, why are they so big? Why do you have 600-pound pigs? They get that big. Well, it's like that picture I say of that deer that got eaten fucking stomach first in front of my house. Oh, yeah, yeah. What the fuck did? Was that a mountain lion?

It's probably bobcat. Could be coyotes. Could be a lot of things. They do have mountain mines in Austin, actually. They do. Yeah, they do. We got some kind of a cat on our camera, and it's tough to tell perspective. But someone thought maybe, because it was really black and it was night vision.

It was before we upgraded the cameras. It looked like it might have been a German Shepherd, but it was weird. It moved like a cat. But you know how German Shepherd have that weird thing, but they kind of like lower in the butt? Yeah. They move a little more cat life, which is one of the things that I think why they can go so fast, like Belgian Malamaw. How about that Dutch Shepherd? That thing you send me, right?

Insane. But this thing was in front of my house. I asked the animal control. Go ahead. Well, they were like, there's a large predator, like bring the dog inside. And then I went and watched the video of it. And I was like, what the fuck is that? Like, what is that?

Yeah, I asked animal control. I'm like, what the fuck would do this? They're like, usually if it's like wolves or coyotes, coyotes, there would be blood. everywhere. They eat them and then it bleeds out, but everything was clean. So it was probably one animal did all the work. Yeah. No it might be a mountain line. Well,

whatever the fuck this thing was, it was in the shadows it was hard to pick up, but it looked like a cat. It looked like a pretty big cat. How about the cats? You see how big those mountain lines are on Idaho and in Colorado? They're not like your 100-pound mountain lines. They're 200-pound cats. You've seen the one Derek Wolf killed? Yes. It's the biggest thing

ever seen. Massive. That one in L.A. You know how big he is? is and they see him holding that wolf up i mean holding that mountain line up it's crazy that that one in l-a and woodland hills was they said it was plus 200 that big dude just on the fucking cameras yeah well they take down elk they take down elk with their face yeah and they eat dogs like crazy when they find them in california when you know they have to do those depredation things they're they have a problem mountain line they found that 50% of their diet is pets what really in san francisco oh northern california bay area well leopards in india do that a lot they just snatch your dogs man everything but there's

kids missing and shit yes especially in the old days of the hollywood hills there's stories about kids missing they never figured out what happened that's that's probably a mountain life there's a lot of them up in that whole park area up there in in colorado there was a family hiking and the six-year-old there was there was all in the line and a mountain line came out of the bush just grabbed that six-year-old and disappeared oh my god i don't know where can you imagine oh my god no i I cannot imagine. Have you seen the one that we have on the studio wall? The one that's a photo with the cat with a Hollywood sign behind it.

He's wearing a collar. It's LA to me. That photo is LA to me because it's completely retarded. Like everything about it is retarded. They built in. They build them a runway? Oh yeah. This one is dead, but they're building other ones a runway.

They're spending millions of dollars so they can cross the highway safety and kill dogs. So this fucking, this thing has a collar on its neck too. So it's this huge mountain, like, Jimmy, pull that picture up, if you could put it, please. It's a huge mountain lion with a collar on his neck, with the Hollywood sign, perfectly illuminated in the background. It looks fake. Yeah, I know. But it's like, this is how goofy that town is. You have giant predators.

And instead of, like, killing them, when you find them, what you do is you collar them and release them so you know where they're killing everything. That's the photo that we have on the wall back there. Look at that side. Look at his front paws and stuff. Who took that photo? It's like a famous photographer, right? Give that guy's flowers. They can jump a school.

bus that they can lengthen that they can Steve I was not winter Steve Winter look at that crazy that photo is that's a great picture I stare at that picture all the time but that that represents L.A. to me now as just dumb 300 it's just it's all it makes no sense at 300 pounds that and you get a tiger well dude I was in Abu Dhabi and they had they had like baby ligers oh god like just at the size where you're like okay like if they bite you they could start doing some damage probably like you know this big like It was clearly still a baby, but it was like this big. Probably like, I don't know, 60 pounds.

And they're like trying to get everyone to pick them up. And they're like, they go hold them. Like, if they know that you're scared, like they can sense that you're scared, they won't let you touch them. So I'm like giving this fucking thing. So I pick this thing up. And the fucking, it feels like you're like trying to move around like steal cables. Like their legs and their fucking paws.

It's like they feel like concrete. Yeah. Like they're so dense. Yeah. You ever grab a chimp, a baby? Chimp? No. They made a wood. They feel like they're wood. Yeah. Their backs feel like they're literally wood. You have talked about this one we had on news radio. It was like a scene in news radio that wound up getting cut, but I had to do a thing with a baby chimp and this

thing climbed on my, with a diaper on, climbed on my back and whack me in the back. Just playing. Just having a good time. Wack me in the back. And I was so stunned by how strong it hit me. I was like that was crazy. I feel like it was made out of wire, like corded, like steel wire. That's right. Just a different kind. a muscle yeah but imagine that in a cat that's like on your neck and you know there's it is uh let you relax just relax bites through your skull oh i've seen that with the monkey tears the guy's head off or it cares the guy's scalp apart fucking goes the right oh i hate looking at that yeah don't show them oh it made me put it up on the screen for everybody

oh i saw this this is insane he goes to run away and he just like pulls like half of his fucking scalp just for no reason just feels like it yeah it's a bad situation he just felt like it fuck you yeah guy didn't do anything wrong he's trying to be peaceful they're not good pets i am at peace i am at peace with this monkey no me and a monkey are good friends they don't make good pets baboons will challenge you especially the males yeah and they have large teeth yeah animals all right so this has gone full circle yep um vaccinate your pets yep i'm gonna be at the covina laugh factory this weekend come see me Friday Saturday Sunday.

We'll be wearing a lab coat on stage. That's right. I'll be wearing a lap coat, preaching about. If you want to learn about vaccines come to my show at the Coupina Laugh Factory. I'm releasing my special that I shot at the mothership in one month from today. Nice. YouTube? Yeah, YouTube.

I've been sitting on it. I was shopping around, but I've been sitting on it. YouTube's the best anyway because it's access. Access is everything. Yes. And I saw your set the other night. It was very funny. Thank you, buddy.

Did you like it? Very funny. I don't want to say the material that you were talking about, but we'll talk later. And Fire and Kids just dropped the Patreon. Oh, yeah. Patreon.com slash T-F-A-T-K And you do the show Totally nude

On the Patreon, right? Yes, we do. Big nuts out finally. That's right. We don't get suppressed on it. Is Patreon surprised you like that or would you have to go to OnlyFans if you want to show your nuts? We were talking about me doing a Patreon where I show my nuts. How about it's just like red hot chili pepper style?

Yeah, but if I just put my nuts in different situations and we took, we did video and pictures of just my nuts. I wonder if I'd make any money. That's going to make less money. No one wants to see nuts. You should see these nuts, though. They're good nuts. They're big. I got big nuts.

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Is it Kingsway.com? Kingsway Jiu-Jitsu. Kingswayjitsu.com. All right. That's it. Goodbye, everybody. Love you guys. Love you guys.

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