The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #139 with Bas Rutten

Episode Date: May 23, 2023

Joe is joined by Bas Rutten: a retired mixed martial artist, UFC Hall of Famer, actor, inventor, and author.  www.basrutten.com

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. We're up. Mr. Rooton, good to see you, sir. Been a while. It's been a while. Yeah. Yeah, it was exciting running into you out here in Texas.

You're a Texas resident. Texas. I got a hat and everything. I need a belt buckle. Oh, yeah. I got a hat and everything. I need a belt buckle. Oh, yeah. I got the boots, and I rode a longhorn. What was it? In this little village here somewhere.

Banderas. Like a big, big freaking longhorn. You got on one of those things? Oh, I got one. Yeah, I rode one. Did they let you ride them, or did they try to buck you off? No. He said, this guy is hanging out with kids, like six years old.

He's very, very calm. Those Longhorns are wild, huh? Dude, it's crazy if you say it. Giant. Yeah, everybody, the whole street will stop. When did you come out here? July 4th, the 4th of July last year.

Fireworks and everything. I was at the top building. We had an apartment for a year. So it was give us time a year to find a home, which we did. So we're probably going to move in next week. But the top building, it was the park, Atlanta Park in New Braunfels,

where they have the fireworks. And man, it was nice. They welcomed me on the 4th of July with the fireworks. That's nice. You finally get fed up with California, huh? Yeah. It doesn't everybody. It's crazy. It finally get fed up with California, huh? Yeah, doesn't everybody?

That's crazy. It's fucking, I would have never imagined five years ago that there'd be this mass exodus and that most of my friends would live out here now. It's crazy.

But also Ventura County, where I'm from, it's like Orange County, still the laws are a little bit easier, right? Then LA, LA. But you know, once it starts getting there

my wife already said for six years, we gotta go this is gonna go wrong well I was wanting always wanting to get out but I was so connected to the comedy store that I always felt like god I can't leave that place behind but then

when the pandemic hit it was like well I guess we're not even doing comedy anymore so fuck it yeah you know do it here and now you got one yeah now i got one crazy yeah life has been crazy the whole thing is crazy yeah yeah so you settling in out here and enjoying it we're loving it you know the people and every single person who comes to visit you know their whole is a little bit preserved, you know, the Texas mentality. But when they come off the plane, it's the first thing they say. Until now, like eight out of eight, people are so nice here. It's the first thing they say.

Yeah. So I think that we love it. We have a daughter, the middle daughter that I have. She still lives in California. And she didn't really like Texas, but now she's been here. And her fiancé, they were here last week, and I see it with him as well. He goes, it's really nice here. Yeah, it's different, and it's also less people.

The less people thing is gigantic. I don't think you can underestimate that enough. Yeah. Because I think—or overestimateimate that enough because overstate that enough I think that people get too used to too many people and then they view view people as a nuisance And I don't hear that hasn't happened. Yeah here when people just they're friendly. They're just friendly to people But they're different as well. Yeah, I think that well, they're armed It's like on a plane everybody should get a little baseball bat, you know Well, they're armed. That'll help, right? That helps a lot. It's like on a plane, everybody should get a little baseball bat when they walk in.

I'm going to hijack the plane! Or a taser. Or a taser. Yeah, but a taser with me and at the time when I was... Okay, so a friend of mine, Holbrook Eliny, from Mindhunter, that actor, he gave me a taser. So at my birthday, I open it up, I grab the taser, I put the battery in, I'm looking up, and not a single person is in the room. Everybody ran out. You see? Because he thinks you're going to try it on.

Oh, 100%. Any person I see, I'm going to try it. So I would do that on the plane as well. Immediately. It's the funniest thing ever i go where's everybody did you tase anybody yet no no no one you know not even yourself i really i want to try it i gotta go just jab my thigh one time just oh that i did i didn't even know my head you know yeah no that i did but i'm want to see if they, because they say it's impossible. And I might be fooling myself.

I think I can pull them out. But, you know. Some people can take it. I've watched videos. There's some people that are on certain drugs that they just pull those things right out of their body. I saw one where the cops had to shoot the guy because they tased him and the guy kept coming at him. And then finally he's like okay you're going to die now bang bang yeah yeah it was uh crazy though because some people just stiffen up yeah they fall down and this guy just i think i had mind over matter but then again this

i don't even know if it's mind over matter i don't know maybe it was a weak taser because that's one of the things that a friend of mine told me. And it's actually in a book. It's in one of the gray men books. That those tasers are like, especially the personal ones that people have. They vastly overestimate the stopping power of those things. Because girls think, I'm going to get you with this taser. Don't get the wrong person.

They might fuck you up even with that. It doesn't just debilitate people No, if you have a taser you can use 20 times That's not a good thing I'd rather have a taser that you can use only once Right Like a bomb Because the battery is drained out

So you know this thing is going to work Yeah, because batteries go dead on flashlights, right? I'm sure they go dead on tasers too People are running around with all this confidence Sure, that's how you create freaking heat, right? Yeah. There's nothing substitutes a 9mm. If you want personal protection, you want a small, like a SIG P365.

The Hellcats are very nice. You got the Shield Smith & Wesson. Oh, yeah. They're very nice, but they only hold like eight, one in the barrel. And that's the extended mag. Oh, you're out here now. I got to get you a Staccato. Staccato has a CS.

It's a very small micro 9mm with, I think it has 15 in the magazine and one in the chamber. It's so small. It just fits right in your hand. I was doing this. I interviewed a guy. I had this thing on Planet Boss. It's on Muscle and Fitness. So I interviewed a guy at the shooting range here, McQueen's Gun Club.

And it's amazing. You walk in with the stilettos. They call them here stilettos. How do you call those knives that jump out of the front and back? Yeah, stilettos. Stilettos, yeah. They're completely legal here. Yeah.

I go, you can sell them. I go, yeah, this is taxed, buddy. I go, oh, man, I'm loving it. Everything is legal here. Everything is legal, yeah, yeah is Texas, buddy. I go, oh, man, I'm loving it. Everything is legal here. Everything is legal, yeah, yeah. It's amazing. Literally everything. You can have concealed carry is just your constitutional right. Yeah, yeah.

Don't have to get anything. Amazing how friendly everyone is because of that. I'm not advocating for that. I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing. I'm just saying it's a thing. Just listen, when other people have it. People are less likely to get crazy. Yeah, also.

But if bad people have it, I want to live in a gun-free society. Yeah, as long as they have them, I have them. Yeah. Although there was a very sad story out here where a guy, someone was trying to break into his yard or something like that. Or someone climbed his fence. And he went out in his own yard. I guess someone called the police or he called the police. And he went out into his own yard with

an ar and when the cops saw him the cops shot him oh gee yeah yeah in his own fucking backyard yeah very sad yep well that's that's a lesson don't walk around with an ar in the middle of the night well when you see the cops put that motherfucker down yeah yeah I don't I don't know what the circumstances were obviously yeah but sad for the family yeah I think about yes always so so how is karate combat man I love it I I've been watching I've been watching a lot of saw James Vick fought in karate combat yeah and a lot of. And a lot of Glory guys fight in Karate Kombat now. James just wanted to invite me for a hawk hunting. I go, I'm into it.

I'm in. I would love to do that. I just came back yesterday from Miami. It was a great show. I got to get out to one of these. You have to. When is the next one? June 24th.

Where at? I think Miami. This one is Miami, Orlando. Give me an excuse to go the next one? June 24th. Where at? I think Miami, this one. It's Miami or Orlando. Give me an excuse to go back to Miami because I like Miami. Man, if you would because they've been asking for such a long time, you know, it's great. Maybe I'll take the missus. You know, if you go June 24th,

I'm planning on to take my wife as well. Oh, really? Yeah, I want to take her more on trips now because, you know, all the time crazy times are over. Yeah. And now let's enjoy a little bit. Don't you appreciate that now?

So much better. Oh, you can just get on a plane, no mask, everybody's happy. No, but also with me, my crazy freaking, like, okay, 15 years ago, you know,

I would come home at 8 o'clock in the morning completely drunk and at 9 o'clock I got a flight. Now I'm walking at the airport at 6 in the morning and I go, I'm feeling

great. Sober. Sober. Sober boss. How crazy is that? How long have you been sober for? Oh, you know, I do drink here and there, like a glass of wine or something, but yeah, for a while, I think for the last five years. Yeah, I'm taking it down to that myself. I enjoy the marijuana, and I enjoy some

other stuff that's safe and effective, but I am pretty much done with heavy drinking. I enjoy some other stuff that's safe and effective. But I am pretty much done with heavy drinking. I had a friend recently that got off the rails drunk, and it was so sad to watch. He was so debilitated that I was like, I think I might be done. Yeah. It was awful. When you're sober and you see someone just shit-faced, obliterated,

can't form sentences. Yeah. Terrible for you. No, it's horrible. It's horrible. That's why I don't go to the after parties anymore, which they had here with the last Karate Combat. So, yeah, coming back to that, these are just Wall Street guys who started this thing.

Karate Combat? Karate Combat. They wanted to start a boxing thing. His wife's brother, who doesn't even speak English, said we should start a boxing event or something and maybe we should get these Olympic level karate guys and do a full

contact show. And he goes, oh, let me Google. And they started Googling and they realized there's nothing like it. That's literally how it started. And then it's when they go to the ground, they can punch them on the ground for 10 seconds? Is that what it is? Five seconds? Yeah, George was with was uh with me george and pierre he's one of the hosts as well as um uh the wonder boy uh leo de bachita you know but he he was he was advocating about three seconds i mean why five seconds is already a short time i think you need to he says but three

then they they probably hit harder. You know, I go, whatever his reasoning is, but you know, I don't know, but it's a great rule to have. That's first of all, we haven't seen a knockout yet. There's takedowns.

You can use the pit as 45 degree angle walls. So you can literally walk up there and then drop a guy which you already saw. Well, you've had knockouts. Oh yeah, we had a lot of knockouts.

What do you mean by you haven't seen a knockout? You mean on the ground? Ground and pound. Oh, ground and pound. No ground and pound knockouts yet? Not yet. Well, we had the, of knockouts. What do you mean by you haven't seen a knockout? You mean on the ground? Ground and pound. No ground and pound knockouts yet? Not yet. Well, we had Elijah Averill just came in. He's a point karate guy.

And he was... I actually have some clips. He's the guy who trained with Raymond Daniels. And everybody was speaking about him. He's going to be great. Dude, yeah, you're one of my sisters. Here we go. Okay, so this is the first time.

This is a karate guy on the right, Abdallah Ibrahim. And that's Joshua Quahagan. And he thought he's going to. Oh! You see? Karate guys. Whoa, show that again. Show that again.

These guys with their hands down like that. Yeah. Oh, left hook. Left hook. Wow. hands down like that. Yep. Oh, left hook.

Left hook. Wow. And then there is on this, there's another clip there. They have a Bitcoin logo in the center? It was at the time, yes. Oh, these are Wall Street guys. This is a long time ago. I love the banked edges, too. I really do like that.

I don't like the cage. I feel like it just gets, even the cage. I feel like it just gets, even in MMA, I feel like it gets in the way of so much. Look at this. Boom! Oh, beautiful left hook. Over the shoulder. Didn't even see it coming. You know, and the great thing is if you

fall against the wall, you're not considered to be down. So you can do anything to your opponent. This is down. Once you're on the ground ground. Yeah. But on the wall, you're still okay. There's another clip with Elijah Everill. Here's the guy, the point karate guy.

Okay, watch this. Which one is it? Yeah, this is good. You can just hit play right there because that's it. Watch what happens when you go slow. Oh. You'll see this in slow motion. He wanted to kick him with that. You're going to see in slow mode the way he hit.

You can't kick once they touch the ground. Yeah. But you can punch. You can still punch. What do you think about that with MMA? Like pride rules versus. Watch his kick in the face now. That's a different thing.

As he's going down. Yeah. So he's touching. So he's kind of almost down. Yeah. And this is against the wall. He's allowed to do everything. This is not considered to be down if you're leaning against the wall. Interesting.

But you can, you're not down, but you can kick to the body when they're down. Can you kick to the body? Yeah. Kick to the body. Stomp. No, the head also. Not kicking the head, of course, yeah. Right, but you can kick the head when they're down. Yeah. kick the body? Kick the body. No, the head also. Not kicking the head, of course. Right.

But you can't kick the head when they're down. What do you think about that? Because like old school pride rules, there was something wild about it. And then obviously 1FC has sort of followed those style of rules in a cage, which is different because your head can get trapped in a cage and you can get stomped. Whereas in old school pride, it was the ropes and guys would get their head out of the ropes. I don't know.

Those stomps, once you saw Wendell A. Silva going to that, or Rona against Sakuraba, they're holding the ropes for the balance and they start soccer kicking somebody's face in. Yeah. What I do like always is knees to the head on the balance. Yes. And they start soccer kicking somebody's face in. Yeah. What I do like always is knees to the head on the ground. I rather have that than elbows. Elbows are most of the time are cuts. These are knockouts. Right.

You know, so do you really want to lose because of a cut? In a street fight, you wouldn't, right? Right. I mean, you wouldn't stop. So the losing by a cut, it's frowned upon for a fighter. It's still a loss. Well, there are some knockouts on the ground with elbows for sure. More and more now.

We see them more. But before, it was 98% guts. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because the turtle position, when someone shoots in a failed shot and they just hang out there because a person can't knee them in the head, boy, that's a very vulnerable position. you would never stay there in a street fight No, never, but you saw that the what I see with the Roger Huerta when he wasn't there. Yes

That was like I thought somebody's gonna get killed and I was a bad one. That was a bad one Horrible and that was also a guy much bigger than him, too. Like, Roger fought 155 in the UFC, and then he goes over, and in one, he's fighting these very big guys. And he's already messed up. He's falling literally on the ground for his balance. And then he gets soccer kicked. And then he gets soccer kicked full. That was scary.

Find that, because it was one of the worst KOs. And Roger, man, what an interesting story that is, and kind of a sad story, because he was very, very promising. He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. But that's the thing. That's the curse, right? They always talk about the Sports Illustrated curse, the cover. Mike Tyson

was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, too. Check that. Kid Dynamite. It's in my office at home. He was 19. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, no, no. That curse don't mean shit. For him, it doesn't. Yeah. He's a special guy.

Yeah. But the Roger Werther thing, what happened was he ran a foul. Some people were talking to him or I don't know. Him and the UFC didn't get along all of a sudden, which is crazy. Yeah. Because the UFC wanted to promote him he's this good looking guy he's talented he's tough as yeah and then winds up losing and then the ufc drops him because there was all sorts of conflict between the two of them and he's like i'm gonna go

fight other places and then he went over there and we lost him well you have these guys that are on this trajectory that if they you know, there's guys limited time Yes, do you what do you have like nine years to perform at your very best? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I get You're like a guy. Thank you. I can really find of him on there. Well, Daniel's right I think this I don't know if this is it. It doesn't seem to be a KO or anything Oh, no, it's just a crazy fight between no, this is not a Koji Ando It was a Brazilian guy. Okay.

Oh, Jesus. Yeah, you already, yeah. He's taken a lot of punishment. Yeah, you can already see that going. But you see the guys who are older guys still performing really well. I think Raymond Daniels right now, who's fighting for Karate Combat, you know, he's still freaking. Amazing.

And by the way, he fought, Oh, so he's over 40. He fought Rafael Agaiev, who's considered the goat of karate, right? Five world titles, 11 European titles. This guy's a freaking master. Everybody, when you would have to bet, you force to bet, you put your house on freaking Raymond Daniels.

Agaiev beat him. Really? Yeah, five-run fight. Yeah, decision. So history reflects it. Everybody, and the president, Adam Kovacs, he told me before, he says, Agayev is going to win. And I go, oh, man, that's a big, he says he's going to win. And now also after the fight, they say, oh, we have the blueprint. He says, no, because nobody's like Agayev. His reflexes, I mean, every time you saw Daniels move,

he was already in there. But now, you know, in Daniels' mind, because this guy, he's got to download everything that went wrong. Yes. And then you see him fight the next fight. He's a scary guy as well, the stuff that he does, right? Daniels is amazing. His ability to incorporate that point style karate and also into kickboxing. I mean, he had a lot of courage.

Like going into glory, you know, when he fought those guys, he really wasn't accustomed to leg kicks. And, you know, Joseph Valtellini beat him, and that's how he beat him, just chopped those legs, chopped those legs, and eventually head kicked him. Yeah, but the 720 punch, did you ever see that thing? Oh, my God, it was insane. And then he decided, because actually George Palmer, my commentating partner in Karate Combat, he asked him about it.

He says, were you first about to throw a kick? And he says, actually, I was. But then once he was in the air, the distance got close too fast. He knew he had to change it. And in the air, he was going, oh, did I leave the stove on? Oh, I'm actually right. And then he made it into a freaking right hook. Yeah, that is one of the...

Oh, here's the right hook. This is scary. This one's terrible. Boom. Oh, my God. Yeah. Watch this. He's already out.

Yeah, he's already out and turtled up, and that guy plants it on the neck. I mean, that is one of the worst KOs ever. And the amount of power that you can generate from that short a distance, I mean, he was already fucked up. If you back it up a little bit, Jamie, you can see. I just have to.

Oh, that's all it is? That's the best I can find. Yeah. I mean, he was already fucked up. And again, undersized, much, much smaller than this guy. And then the neck kick. Yeah. Horrible.

Yeah. Not good. But thankfully, we don't have that in karate combat ability. She executes those to the body. Oh, yeah. Yeah in karate combat ability she executes those to the body oh yeah yeah well george used to use those to the body george simpierre yeah yeah that's a great technique to the body for a downed opponent i mean that heel slamming down like that do you imagine yeah i remember i was talking to george yesterday about uh pointing right i like when you have gloves and you can point i would fight fight, fight, fight, point, and low kick.

And every time when you do that, you're painting a picture for your opponent, right? So he's attaching you pointing to the low kick and actually you throwing a low kick. And then once he gets used to that, of course, you break that pair and you're pointing high, and you're going high. And I said the master who did that was Dwayne Ludwig.

It was in a fight, and the guy is on the ground, and Dwayne walks up to him, and he points straight at his head, so the guy puts his guard up, one shot to the solar plexus. Fight was over. You see, stuff like that, I really enjoy when people do it like that. That's Ross Levine. You know that he's the middleweight champion

from Karate Combat. He's also with Bang Muay Thai. You see that guy fight, every organization is going to go. Yeah, see, I've only watched clips online. I've never watched a full event. Freaking 100% in control, whatever happens. It's, you know, once I... Pull up a video of him.

Yeah, go... Ross Levine. Ross Levine, Karate Combat 39. He's the main event. Just go to the second round because the first... And he's fighting a really freaking tough guy who's from the Olympic team karate in this country, Igor De Castaneda.

He just makes him look like a zero chance. Here we go. Okay, Ross is in the back. Look at his distance the whole time. Fainting. So underused in fighting. The way he stalks him. Sees everything.

Now, why do they have to wear pants? Is that just because it's karate? That's just for the karate, yeah. Then why don't they wear tops? You know, you should ask them. It seems like you should be able to wear shorts. It's like anything that would impede the movement of your legs. And I'm not saying that pants do.

They don't that much. But it's a little bit. No, but the gi does. You know, we saw this also with Hoyce Gracie in Sakuraba, right? He started pulling it over. So the gi is always a nightmare. So get rid of the gi. Keep the belt.

Long pants are okay as long as they're a little stretchy. Well, it's kind of cool because it shows you that it's karate. But I would prefer shorts because I feel like shorts I can move my legs better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, not much difference. Obviously, karate tournaments, Taekwondo tournaments are all fought with the gi on. Actually, Sambobo they go with shorts in some events at least oh but you see the control he has yeah everything he got

everything is caught and the way it's like the first time he knocked him out the guy falls back makes a spinning ushiro mawashi yodan gear to the head. Now, this is karate, but it's constant contact. It's constant action. It's not point. So where do these guys come from? Do they come from point backgrounds, kickboxing backgrounds? A lot of these guys came from the point background. You see them, the evolution.

I mean, in the beginning, they would literally throw one punch, they scream, and they stop while the opponent kept going. They go, oh, shoot. Yeah, I got to keep going, and they make combinations. Oh, you have to go off the ramp to sit in your corner, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's enough of this. Interesting. So did he, does Ross Levine, does he come from a point background?

He's a point background karate guy, but he went also to Glory. He went to other organizations. he's just an incredible fighter and now he's coming full circle back to karate and he's yeah he became the champion right away he took the old champions belt I mean it wasn't even a contest. So that guy in that situation he knew that he couldn't get kicked to the head so you can kind of sit there what is he complaining about? I have no clue, but it's not good. Just go to the very end. You'll see him, the way he drops everything.

What do you think is behind Castaneda coming forward to just try and tie up here? Maybe he thought he was going to move forward. Yeah, like right there. Like, what is that? Why would you stop, right? Yeah, well, I think he's kind of already on his way out, right? So, look, he just slid down there instead of standing up now. It's at least a downed opponent

But now he has to wait for five seconds, right? Is that the strategy? Well, you could but he's just getting beat up, right? Yeah, this is but look how Look at this. Oh So you can do that you can kick to the face there because the guy's not totally down. He's just leaning against the thing. Anything goes against the wall. Interesting. And what a choice to make for him.

And he, the Castaneda, he was complaining about this. He said he wasn't out. So they had a rematch. Oh, boy. Yeah, indeed. Oh, boy. And then he got annihilated. It's unfortunate that some of these guys who are mentally tough, they're great fighters,

but they just have this one place that if you can take them to there, they'll crack. Yeah, beard, right? Yeah. Yes. Like tough, tough guys. But if you take them there, they fall apart. Yeah, but you go like, okay, with me, it was submissions. And I go, you know what?

Maybe I should learn this thing. And I start focusing two or three times a day only on that. Yes. And that's how you get rid of it. Yes. You're simply working on it. Yes. But there's a lot of catch up to do.

And there was always an issue in the early days of the UFC where those guys were the elite strikers. They just didn't want to roll because when they rolled, they would get dominated. But when they strike with people, they would dominate them. Yeah. And it's stupid. Yeah. It's just an ego thing. Do what you don't like.

Yeah. That's, you know, because that's most of the time. First of all, you don't like it because you don't understand it. That's what I say to people. But once you understand it, you know, you're going to love it. Like the submissions we need, once I got it, I go like, oh, this is way worse than boxing. We thought the tough guys were boxers and kickboxers. Yeah.

That's not true. No. You can dislocate, break any joint bone in the human body. That's a big power to have. For any guy can do that who's doing after a blue belt, so to say. Well, it's just, I mean, boxing has amazing knockouts, but it's just when a guy can control you on the ground and dominate you on the ground,

you don't have the same ability to defend yourself. You don't have the same ability to defend yourself. You don't have the same options. There's just so much going on. Yeah. It's like, I mean, it's, boxing is great to watch, but all, did you watch the Lomachenko? I didn't. We were busy. He got robbed.

He got robbed. Yeah. Yeah. I think he got robbed. I mean, the commentators were trying very hard not to say he got robbed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were dancing around close rounds and this and that, but I didn't see it at all.

I felt like Lomachenko won that decision. I'd like to go back and watch again, like with silence, and just sort of try to no commentary, just try to like really score each round. But to me, I felt like it was two rounds up for Lomachenko. Yeah. That's bad, you know, for guys like that. It happens all the time in boxing. It happens all, but it happens in the UFC, too.

Yeah, but boxing, it's worse there, right? It is sometimes, but when Marlon Vera fought Corey Sanhagen, one of the judges gave the fight to Marlon Vera, and it makes zero sense. I have watched that over and over again to try, because Corey Sanhagen's performance is fucking phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, he's an animal. It's top level.

And Vera is very freaking tough, too. Vera is an animal. Animal, yeah. He's a fucking animal. He's so good. They're the elite of the elite in that division, both top five guys. But Corey just fucking just chopping away at him, doing whatever he wants, man. It was amazing.

Yeah. Guys like that, man. That's why we have guys like Israel Adesanya. For him to lose and then to come back, you see, I think that's more powerful than any other person out there. You know, you can be undefeated. It's nice, but, you know, show people you're human. And coming back from that, and that was rope-a-doping, right? I mean, and my buddy right away sits next to me and goes, he's rope-a-doping.

You know, he's cage-a-doping, whatever you want to call it, fence-a-doping. But he was still looking just for the right moment. Oh, it was amazing. Amazing. Well, he had gotten very close to stopping him in one of the kickboxing fights and then dropped him with seconds to go, like one second to go in the first round of their MMA fight.

So he kind of knew he could get to him. Yeah. But it's that motherfucker so big. Dude, he was standing next to me. He came to Karate Combat. He's like 235 pounds. He's huge. This is crazy. All these guys. I'm next to me he came to karate combat he said he's like 235 pounds he's huge this is great all these guys yeah i'm next to jones i mean freaking tito everybody's giant it's crazy

i know it's all length ian gary i mean you're standing next to him dude that's that's a fun guy to watch oh my god undefeated so. Undefeated, so confident, and so intelligent. And beating Daniel Rodriguez like that in his last fight and being the first guy to stop Rodriguez, I mean, that's a big deal. He's got it, man. He's got it, whatever it is. He's got it, and he's on his way up. That's the thing, the it thing.

What is the it thing, right? Because how many fighters do you see, they constantly go for the belt, go for the belt, but they never really get the belt. And it's so weird. You go like, man, he should be a champ. But somehow, he's not. Well, there's guys that are so close.

They're so close, and they beat top guys, but they never get whatever it is. Yeah. Michael Johnson, who just got knocked out this past weekend. I mean, he knocked out Dustin Poirier. K.O.'d him with one left hand. He's the elite of the elite, and just at a certain point, and he's been K.O.'d real bad. Josh Emmett K.O.'d him really bad.

And then this past weekend gets K.O.'d really bad again. It's a shame. And everybody's focus is on that. And I go, like, you shouldn't. I remember there was a time that I was 11 fights undefeated, and somebody told me. He says, whoa, man, you're 11-0 right now. You lost 11.

I go, oh, crap. He goes, what? I wish you wouldn't have said that. You know, I was afraid it was going to go inside my head, and I want to make it tough, and then you start fighting not to lose. You start not taking risks anymore. Thankfully, I forgot about it. about it but yeah can you imagine you've got like this very tentative guy it happens to people a lot of people change up their style and they become more technical or

more boring or more safe or whatever you want to call it but they do and they think about it we get mike perry in the audience uh uh andre olov it. We did Mike Perry in the audience. Andrej Olowski was there also for the karate competition. Mike Perry, that's one of those guys. If you're a promoter, grab that guy. Oh, my God. Great on the microphone, great interviews. He's either going to get knocked out or he's going to knock somebody out. He'll roll the dice.

He's the perfect guy for any organization. Well, what he's doing now in bare-knuckle fighting is amazing yeah knocking out Luke Perry like that stopping him you know beating up Michael Venn and Paige who saw that coming yeah he's just so fucking tough that there's something about the pain that comes with bare knuckle that just suits him it's a mental thing. 100%. I think also we were talking about, Louis Rocha actually was talking about this,

the lightweight guy from Cardi Cobb, and he said, I'm going to win this fight because I thought I was in a lot of street fights. I have a different mentality than his opponent Bruno Souza had. He has a nice upbringing. He's a great fighter, but he doesn't have that little meanness in him at the moment when you need it.

You know, the controlled aggression like Bruce Lee would talk about. I think that's a big thing as well. It's certainly a big thing. Skill is everything, right? But then the mental aspect of it, sometimes Trump's skill, if you could overcome those moments where the opponent is beating you, if you could just find your openings and then put it on them. Some people are great when they're the hammer and not so great when they're the nail.

Yeah, I was talking about George as well. Bringing your fans. First time my mom and dad are here watching me fight, they go, I don't know if that's a good thing. Could be really good. Children is what gets me. Oh, the worst. Yeah, children.

When you see people bring their children, I'm like, oh, you have so much to think about. There's so much more now that you have to think about. I wouldn't let my kids watch. They could watch the replay, but they can't watch it live. Because what if something goes wrong? Right, right, right. You know? And my daddy going down there.

It's just not a good thing. No, no. And it's also there's one more variable that you have to keep in your mind while you're competing. I mean, some people can do it great. Some people can fight great with their kids in the audience. More power to them. But for some people, you watch them with their kid in the audience and they lose and they get KO'd.

You see the kid crying like, oh, my goodness. Why would you subject your children to that? It's so hard. If you've just been training for three years full to become an MMA champion, that is gone. Did you see the Mackenzie Dern fight this weekend? No, I didn't. Oh, my God. She's unbelievable, right?

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It was incredible. It was a breakthrough performance. She's always been elite? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It was incredible. It was a breakthrough performance. Like, she's always been elite in the strawweight division. But to do that to Angela Hill, who is, by the way, Angela Hill is so fucking tough. Great striker. The beating that she took in this fight never quit.

She came very close to getting arm bars, and she just would not fucking give that arm up. And she's getting hammer-fisted in the face. Yeah. Woo! Yeah. Angela Hill's so fucking tough, but Mackenzie Dern, my God. You never expect it to. If you see her in an interview, you go like, she's a sweet lady.

But her daughter was there for the first time, and her daughter's very young. And her daughter saw her face. Her daughter's crying. I mean, she won. She dominated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the daughter her daughter saw her face. Her daughter's crying. I mean, she won. She dominated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the daughter was like, what?

Like, it's hard. It's hard on those little kids. Yeah, don't bring family. My wife, I wouldn't bring because she would throw in the towel. If she sees a little tidy cut, she'll throw in the towel. I brought her to,

okay, she takes a sit. So I go into Japan. I had a fight twice in one month. Right? I said, I tell her, I said, why don't you come with me? I can stay there. Finally, I got some trading partners in Japan

that I can roll around with a little bit. So the first fight goes against Suzuki. Peter Ertz was there because he was just fighting also for the K1 and he came to watch. And I was the first guy to stop Suzuki at the time. But I remember when I need him and I hit him and he goes down on the ground.

I'm standing in my corner, it's an eight count, and my wife is walking away. And I go, where is she going? And they go, fight again. And later on I go, what were you doing? She says, I didn't like it because I thought you were going to hurt him a little bit. Because I'm there. You know, you're going to do

your extra very best to hurt the guy more. I go, no. Why the hell would you leave? I'm standing there and I just see her walking away. I go, what the hell is going on here? She thought you were going to hurt him more because she was there. That's interesting. And then, by the way, this is also funny. We're doing the laundry.

She's hanging laundry on the balcony and it is in Japan, in Tokyo. And suddenly she goes, oh my God, somebody jumped on the building. And I'm laughing and I think it's a joke. And she goes, no, no, really. So I'm looking, and there's this guy on the floor in, like, a really bad position. You know that he committed suicide.

He just jumped. And then you see people coming by. They just kick him. They keep walking. And then suddenly there's this little ambulance thing comes. They grab him up, put him away. But it was the wildest thing. So she saw him jump?

She saw him falling down. Yeah. That's a wild way to go. Yeah. They say that the moment they jump, they know it's a mistake. That one guy who jumped off the bridge in New York. San Francisco. San Francisco.

And he survived. Yeah. The freaking, what's it? The flipper brought him back up, right? Mm-hmm. Unbelievable, he said, you regret it the moment you step off. Of course. Well, of course. You know you're going to die.

I mean, I had a friend who did that in San Francisco. And he died. He died. Oh, I did. Yeah. He struggled with depression for a long time. And then someone sent him sent me a message that he tony killed himself i was like oh no and i was like how did he do it and

they like he jumped off the bridge it was like oh yeah because that's about how that's at least 15 seconds oh long bridge that's a big fucking drop and you don't die instantly i don't think either maybe you do i see these commercials on TV with people that are depressed. In the early days, I would be, come on, man, just think happy thoughts. That's what I literally, I'm the idiot who thought that. And then after my last fight, I had like a two and a half month period of depression. The most scariest thing I've ever had. Which fight?

Which fight was it? It was after 2006, the last fight I made. Like after seven years, I didn't fight against Ruben Valerio, the beginning guy. That fight? You had depression after that fight? After that, I think maybe because it was literally God letting me know, okay, the fight is over now. I was

so injured, and I thought I was okay, but I was so injured, I couldn't continue fighting anymore, and I think, I don't know. Were you injured going into the fight? Oh, yeah. Everything. Hamstring, rib was out. It was not good.

But thankfully, I got him. But then afterwards, I think that maybe got in my head that I couldn't, that this was it. And I was literally on the freeway thinking, you know, what if I drive my car against it? You know, and I go, what? What am I thinking? I go, and then I decided to make a list with all the good things in my life and all the

bad things. And then you're going to realize that the bad thing list is two things. Oh, yeah. And the rest is like, goes on, the good things. And I started focusing on it. And I understand, a lot of people, it's harder for them, and they are going to need medication. I tried medication. And I was freaking out.

I literally was thinking, if I wouldn't have had a family, I might have done it. It was that crazy. Did you get hit in that fight bad? No. No? So did you get hit at all in training that was bad? Nope.

No, no. I never had an eight count, not even in fighting. So I've never had, I've been very blessed. Yeah, so do you think it was just psychological? Because that is a thing that happens to guys with CTE. Guys that have had a lot of hits to the head, they start getting very depressed because their serotonin levels are all fucked up,

their endocrine system's all fucked up, their pituitary gland gets damaged. And they say it gets damaged even when you don't even get knocked out just your little jabs to the face oh i listen i've been training with peter er peter ohizo yeah that's a fun guy to spar oh my god you know he got me on a body shot one time and i was looking at the clock making sure that he could not see that i was looking at the clock yeah but you had a liver shot i go and then i start throwing on purpose a lot of crosses because somebody was hurt as

would never do that, right? So I was trying to convince him, and thankfully he thought I wasn't hurt. And then the bell went, and I go, dude, I looked at him. Oh, I'm so happy you didn't touch me there. Like this. And I would have gone down. The liver is awful. It's the worst.

Oh, my God. People were saying when Ryan Garcia went down against Tank Davis, and people were saying he quit. I'm like, have you ever been hit there before? Oh. Yeah. Everything just fucking freezes up. Where does my love for the liver shot come from? Yes.

First Thai boxing class, getting dropped by a liver shot. First class? Really? First class of the Thai box, tough boxer, karateka, but my hands are here. So as soon as they added punches to the face, you overcommit. You go too fast, so you're exposing your body. And I was training with Osman was his name. He was a class A fighter already, pro.

And he figured me out really fast. And he dropped me with a liver shot, and I remember asking him. I go, what is this? It's terrible. I went home. I spent three and a half hours in front of a mirror. Three and a half hours. My wife said, you're insane.

I would drink. I would drink a little coffee, relax, go back to the mirror. Only this. I was not going to drop my hands anymore. And the next day, I went back to the class. And I just cleaned 85% of the gym. And they go like, they thought I played a joke on them. I go, no, I spent three and a half hours in front of the freaking mirror.

That was not going to happen again. I was a little obsessive compulsive. That's the champion mindset. That's the only way to do it. Yeah, you need that. You can't have a bunch of other options of things you can do. You have to be 100% all in, fully obsessed. I'm thinking about a funny story when I lived in that building.

I used to live across the gym, and I had a mixed martial arts, had a Thai boxing match the next day. And my neighbors, there was stairs going up, left out of the apartments and right. I was on the right side. They were on the left side. So they have a mirror image apartment. So I know everything.

What we have, it's a mirror image there. And they were banging the music really loud. And it was 10 o'clock. And I go, I'll let it go till 11 o'clock, 1130. Okay, I'm going to go down and ask them. So I asked them really nice, please stop it because I have to do something tomorrow. I didn't want to mention anything because I can only trigger something. And they said, sure.

Closed the door, turned the music up. I called the cops. And I tell the cops, I said, listen, this is 86A. My name is Boss Ruth. You can tell them that I called you, so use my name. But please, this has got to stop. Because now it's like midnight, midnight 15, and I need to sleep.

So the police comes, but you have also a little balcony. And it's hilarious because the police comes, music is down. I'm standing on the balcony looking at them. They were on one floor behind me. And while the police leaves, they go, they're gone, turn it up. They're screaming inside, and they start blasting the music again, they go, they're gone, turn it up. They're screaming inside and they start blasting the music again. I go, okay.

So I put on a cap, you know, that I looked a little different, put on a jacket. And I walked out, down, and the guy opened up. I go, hey, what's up, party time? And he goes, hey, come in, come in. And I walk in, close the door, right behind the door is where the fuse box are. And in Holland, it's different. In Holland, they're like ceramic diffuses. Like big, they look like spark plugs.

Just twist them in. Yeah. And I opened the thing, and I just crushed. I stomped the whole thing, like holding the side of the door. I go, bam, bam. The whole place goes down. And they came running in the building. I go, I warned you guys. And nobody goes down. And they came running in the building. I go, I warned you

guys. And nobody came close. They saw it in my eyes. So the reason I didn't want to go there in the first place because I couldn't, my adrenaline, well, I couldn't sleep the whole freaking night because my adrenaline was so rocketing now after that whole experience. Thankfully, I beat him.

But that was the day before the fight. Oh, my God. The day before the fight, yeah. When you had the day before a fight, was there anything specifically you would do to try to relax or try to calm yourself or get ready? No. I always been a big thing, and then later on when I started understanding breathing better,

you know, like the vagus nerve to stimulate that one. On the morning I was doing that. Like I would be, this was with nerves, I use it with a low tone. I go, and I let my belly vibrate. Now, at the time, I didn't know what I was doing. Short inhales with longer exhales actually stimulating the vagus nerve. And other ways to stimulate the vagus nerve are also by humming and singing. So I connected two of them somehow.

But it made me very calm. If I had a headache, I do it the same thing, but I go higher pitch sound because then my skull vibrates. You see? And that always helps me with headache or if I'm nervous with my body. So yeah, that's what I would do. I would just relax and have fun. Video games, you know, only comedy. Nobody can say anything bad.

In the dressing room, we can't have aggression. Everybody needs to go right away. Get the guy's ass. I remember my last fight, my nutrition was there, and he wanted to hype me up. So he says, can I talk to you outside? It was just before, like an hour before the fight. He goes, listen, man, this guy tries to take food away from your family.

You got to stop right there. I don't need to stop. He goes, seriously? No. Because if I get angry, you don't want to get angry. You want to be in control. So he says, okay. It's interesting because some people do need that. Yeah, they need to get slapped in the face.

Oh, far away from that. My opponent's already going to try that. Why would I do that? Right? Yeah. Did you see how I say try that? I didn't say do that. Try that.

Right, of course. Slip that in there. It is interesting the different psychology like if you are a coach you kind of need to be a psychologist because you're dealing with all these different people different ways like some people they're they have amazing potential but there's just not that discipline some people you got to keep them out of the gym because they're training too hard they're going to over train yep yeah and i always found out that it's like it's the one in the middle it literally is i think the middle. It literally is.

I think the guys with too much talent, they don't have the stamina to back it up because they're always schooling everybody in the gym and nobody gives them pressure. Right. You know, and then of course, but if you have the guys like, the guys who are not really physically blessed, but still become a freaking champ. Tim Sylvia. Yes. I mean, if you see him walk,

his toes are inside a little bit. His motoric skills are not great. Yeah, pigeon-toed. Freaking world champion. Yep. And those guys are way harder to beat than a guy who is easy for them. Because instead of...

If I have to work for something two hours and they have to work six hours for the same thing to get to that point, they don't want to let that go. Those guys are the worst guys to fight. They're the toughest. So it always comes with something. And that's why I figured out in the middle, I know I have talent, but I'm not like a BJ Penn kind of talent. You know, that is like exceptional.

Three years black belt and then backing it up by beating the world champion. Three years wins the Mundial, which is insane. Imagine you meet a guy, you're like, what are you doing? Oh, I'm going to go take my first jiu-jitsu class. Oh, good luck with that. Then you meet him three years later. What are you doing? Oh, I just won the world championships.

In what? In the black belt division. In what? In jiu-jitsu. What? In what rank? Black belt. What? Yeah. In what rank? Black belt. What?

That's insane. Nobody even gets a black belt in three years. Freaking prodigy. I was a brown belt for eight fucking years. Yeah. BJ Penn was a special guy, man. When people talk about GOATs, I feel, unfortunately, they leave him out of the equation. Oh. But if you look at BJ in his prime, when he beat Sean Shirk, when he beat Diego Sanchez,

in his prime, when he was just smashing people, Joe Stevenson, BJ Penn was a motherfucker. Oh. I put that BJ Penn against any 155-pounder that's ever lived. Yep. And the striking, it picked up so fast. Oh, my God. Gomi. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Din Thomas. Animal. He knocked down a lot of fucking people. And his jujitsu was off the charts. Yeah, yeah. Off the charts.

BJ Penn was so fucking talented. But during that period when he was the GOAT, what happened was he got with Marv Marinovich, and he started training insane cardio. The Marinoviches had him training cardio more than anything else. It was all plyometrics. It was all these facts. They're like, you already know how to fight. Yeah.

Like, the problem is endurance. Let's give you the most insane gas tank, and then you go out there with so much confidence because you never have to worry about keeping your foot off the gas. Yeah. But what happened? This sounded to me like you were setting off. No, I mean, that's when he won. Well, he always won, but that's when he became BJ Penn, the motherfucker.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like if you could get time machines together, Yeah, I feel like it's like you could get time machines together. I would take Khabib when he beat Conor McGregor and face BJ Penn when BJ Penn fought Sean Shirk or yeah Yeah, Penn fought Joe Stevenson or BJ Penn fought Diego Sanchez like that BJ Penn versus that could be holy That fight gives me goosebumps just imagining it. Yeah. Freaking elbows. The split he left over to Joe Stevens' head. Oh, my God.

Yeah, there was blood everywhere. Remember? It was in a puddle. Plus, when you got him on the ground, like, that ain't no picnic. That's terrifying. BJ Penn was fucking amazing on the ground. Everybody says, you know, it feels like he's 250 pounds when you roll with him. Well, his legs move

like arms. Yeah. He has the most insane flexibility and dexterity. Yeah, this is BJ in his prime. Oh my god. Boom. Boom, shine, shine. Flying knee KO. Look at that. Dude, BJ Penn, when he was the GOAT, when he was on top, dude, he was fucking

unstoppable. He was so angry, too. It was the best. Yeah. Are they, like, letting... What is Mario Yamasaki letting that fight go? Oh, he was fucking unstoppable. He was so angry, too. It was the best. Yeah. Are they, like, letting—what is Mario Yamasaki letting that fight go? Oh, it was the end of the round. That's what it was. Boom. Uppercut. Left hook.

Check the timing on this knee. Step. Boom! And he's got those Ruka shorts with the black belt on it. Damn. Oh, my God. And Sean Shirk was a fucking pit bull. Oh, my God. Sean Shirk. He was on top for a long time. Oh, my God. And Sean Shirk was a fucking pit bull. Oh, my God.

Sean Shirk. He was on top for a long time. Oh, my God. And he had incredible fitness. Yeah. I mean, Sean Shirk was so fit. He was like one of the first guys that had like unbelievable strength and conditioning routines. And, you know, this is early days of the UFC's popularity.

So it's like people missed that. And I feel like Anderson Silva's another one. When Anderson was in his prime, Jesus Christ. When Anderson knocked out Vitor with that front kick to the face. Oh, geez. When Anderson knocked out Okami. When Anderson knocked out everybody. Knocked out everybody.

Forrest Griffin. The way he – the way. Oh, my God. That was even – Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a bunch of those guys that, unfortunately, they get left out of the conversation because people see them when they've, they should have quit. They should have stopped fighting.

Yeah. That's the case with BJ. That's the case with Anderson. Yeah. People see them when they should have walked away and they just, one more time. Or maybe they're getting a big contract. Maybe with the UFC, they fight and they can make half a million dollars, $750,000, a million dollars, and so, you know.

It's a, but, you know, we all think about that short little, I'm very blessed because I got a lot of injuries, and that's why I stopped, because everybody tells me, man, you were smart. You stopped at the end of your, at the peak of your career. I said, that was not me because that would have been a knucklehead who kept on fighting and eventually you are going to lose because you're going to fight guys

who have your age. They can work out five times a day, five times a week full power. You can't. You have to really make sure that when you do your high outputs, because otherwise you're not going to make it. Thankfully, I got injuries and that's what kept my my you had injuries before you won the heavyweight title you had a bad neck injury when you fought tk oh yeah when you fought tiosha gosaka you your neck was so up you could barely roll it was really bad yeah it was del

golar he threw me in my head i had head item in triangle choke that freaking guy man he was so powerful yeah daryl golar was a fucking beast slams me on the ground in the corner you know so my neck is completely jacked up yeah and that's that's the same injury that got aggravated when you did what what was it, Sons of Anarchy, when you were doing that movie, or the TV show? What was it that you did that wound up, where you had to get the neck fused? Oh, that was Lights Out. Lights Out. Yeah, the TV show.

There was this moment that the lead actor, I'm going to beat him, and he says, this is not realistic. This is boss. You know, he should come up with something. I do something illegal, whatever. There's other ways. There's no way I can beat this guy. And I said, what about this?

I jump on your back. You know, I forget to put the hooks in. And I slide off. I spike myself. So this is all on me. Oh, my God. It's your idea. Yeah.

And then I'm dizzy. You hit me in the throat, whatever. And then you want to do that? I go, sure. You know, you're invincible at that moment you know you think and I did it twice

and it was it was just this height that I just dropped but I remember like two months later looking in the mirror and looking at my wife

I go is my arm getting smaller this is weird and I wasn't using it because I had a lot of pain in the shoulder and then I had to do an autograph session in Boston for the UFC, actually.

They flew me out. And I went to the doctor. I said, I got to put a cortisone shot in there. There's no way I can do this weekend. And they put the cortisone shot in there. And so I now could use it. Because before, I didn't use it because it was hurting. And I couldn't lift my carry-on luggage.

Freaked me out. I go like, whoa, watch out. My other hand, I lift, I go, okay. So it's my arm, something's going on. I thought I lost all power. And that's when I realized it was my freaking neck. How is it coming back now? Is it?

Nothing. It's supporting muscles. They're doing it. You know, if I lift this up, you'll see. You see, it's all gone here. See? Oh, wow. That's crazy.

But it was. My whole arm was like this. It was a stick. So I got this. It's all atrophied. That's crazy. But it was. My whole arm was like this. It was a stick. So I got this. Biceps is coming very slowly. It's coming down. But literally, I started with two pounds. I couldn't pull the trigger from a gun.

Really? Yeah. So going, listen, I used to do nine-mile-an-hour pull-ups. Like people, I would do this in the subway with all the fighters. Hey, show the pull-ups again. Not stretch the arm, but from here, I could, like, nine-mile-long pull-ups. And going from that, not able to grab the freaking water out of the fridge,

that was scary. That was very scary. And then I went from two-pound curls, and I'm doing 15 now. And they say, oh, that's great. Yeah, over 12 years. So you went from two-pound curls to 15-pound curls. Yeah, but like I said, it's over 12

years. I got to do 45s. I have them on my left and then the little ones. I know you went to Waze to Well and they gave you some stem cells and you've done some stem cells. Where did you go before that? Did you go to Panama? I did Panama before all the way back. It didn't work anything for my neck injury because apparently there's a nerve blocked and it can't unblock a nerve. You know, it can only do so much. It's blocked because of the fused discs? I have no clue. Nobody can find out where it actually is located.

It's because it's like, it's been such a long time that they simply cannot locate. They tried everything with electricity and holding and it's stupid. Somehow they cannot figure it out. so I felt really good after Panama like physically it's not my what is it cholesterol levels it was bizarre I went from 220 because coincidentally I just took like a blood test tumor two weeks before I went to there and when I came back did another blood test two weeks before I went to there. And when I came back, did another blood test, it dropped 70 points. Seven zero points in like 10 days. And it was because of the stem cells.

It was the wildest. It was like 150. I go, what? It was 220. It was really bizarre. And I felt really energized. I remember the person who told me to go there. It was through Mel Gibson.

Mel Gibson. And his sister was talking about, she said, I feel energy coming out of my fingertips. I go, that's a weird thing to say. But then after my third session, because she had four sessions in four days, I called my wife and go, oh, I know exactly what she's talking about. Every morning I would wake up out of my toes and out of my fingers for six months straight. Really weird, but felt really good. Wow. Yeah.

I've never done the Panama. I've done ways too well, and I did it in Santa Monica, a few different places I've done stem cells. But it's healed injuries, big time. I had a full- length rotator cuff tear and i went i went in vegas dr roddy mcgee shot me up with um mesenchymal stem cells and uh i went to a doctor the ufc gave me a doctor in los angeles and he looks at my mri and he goes you're gonna need surgery and i go 100 he's like yeah i mean he goes i don't know how you're using it now. And so he goes, well, let me put you through some paces. Let me, let me see. He goes, resist this. And I just resisted it. And he goes like, huh? He's

like, resist that. And I resisted that. He's like, oh, he's like, okay, it's pretty strong. He goes, well, you know, it's good. It's a matter of time. Just, you know, you're gonna, you're gonna need surgery. So, you know, might're going to need surgery, so, you know, it might be better to do it now. Even though it hurts, you've got good muscles supporting it, and so that's the only reason why it's okay. So I got it shot up with stem cells. Six months later, I go and get an MRI. The rotator cuff tear is gone. Whoa.

Full-length rotator cuff tear. And Dr. McGee looks at me and goes, you know how fucking insane this is? Yeah. He goes, this is insane. And this was like the early days of stem cells in America where you could kind of get away with more. They were doing some wild shit that you've got to go to Mexico now again. Like Tijuana, the Cellular Performance Institute,

CPI down there that my friend Ed Clay and Eddie Bravo's been down there. A lot of UFC fighters have been down there. You know? They go to the extra step. It's incredible. Yeah,

they fucking dose you. They hit you with a lot of it. And everybody I know that's gone down to that place is phenomenal. Well, I went to Westworld for IV,

right, already. And I had to say the next day I called them, my muscle aches are way less. It was just after one day. Well, there's a definite

reduction in inflammation that comes with that, you know, but there's a lot of things you could do to reduce inflammation, but the healing thing is just incredible, and I

really wish, I mean, the problem is in this country, you know, without just blaming people, there's too much regulation when it regard to that kind of stuff. And it's not because there's a lot of evidence that people get injured by stem cells. I feel like there's a lot of pressure on them because there's a lot of drugs that people take when they're injured. And there's a tremendous

industry in those drugs, tremendous industry in anti-inflammatories is tremendous industry in those drugs. Tremendous industry in anti-inflammatories. There's tremendous industry in the pain pills. And a lot of that would be hit hard if stem cells were openly not just allowed, but allowed the way they're allowing them in other countries. It's everything. And they don't want that. They don't want to fix you. It's fucked.

It really is. I mean, if they could make it so. They don't want to fix you. It's fucked. It really is. I mean, if they could make it so that you have to take a pill once a month, and that pill is worth a lot of money, and they can profit off of it, they'd be like, all in. Yep. But this bile, I am just a giant fan of stem cells, and I'm a giant fan of peptides. Yeah, me too.

I always did peptides. Makes a giant difference. Trigger your own body to make more. Yes. It's the best. It is. It. Trigger your own body to make more. Yes. It's the best. It is. It's always better than a foreign substance in you. Yes.

And it's incredible what they can do now. Yeah. And we're really at the cusp of this. They're doing things now where they have stem cell eye drops for people that have eye injuries. I mean, the intravenous stem cells help with all sorts of neurological conditions and all sorts of issues that people have, particularly when they go to, say, Columbia, the bio-accelerator place, or Neil Reardon's place, which is in Panama. Yeah. It's fucking amazing what they can do now. So anyway, this shoulder, many years later, zero problems.

Zero problems. I do 90- pound clean presses with this jeez and i do windmills with it so i'm putting it in these compromising positions where i'm doing this with windmills with 90 pounds no problems zero pain yeah throwing full punches zero pain nice no problem pull a 90 pound bow back no problem no no issues at all and this was that close to getting cut and now it doesn't it doesn't bother me at all. And this was that close to getting cut And now it doesn't it doesn't bother me at all. I mean, it's like nothing wrong with it Like it's so wild right sometimes. You know the wildest thing that I one time had was that I had a really oh

The little pinkie a sticker because I hit somebody's hip like it is a karate key hit a hip and it was before a fight so I'm arriving at the at the pancreas for fighting. And the judge was a really good freaking body mechanic guy. I mean, everybody from around the world would go to that guy to have them look at him. Because he was just really good with tai chi and whatever he did. What is it? Acupressure, all that kind of stuff.

And he went to me and he says, okay, give me a hand. I relaxed it. And he pushed on three spots. I was like, oh, shit, shit, shit. He goes, no, just, and he wiped it out. He does it again. I go, okay. He says, okay, how is it now?

And I go like, I go, it's completely gone. Like zero pain. Not even a hint of it. And he just opened up the pain blockages that he said that he was pressing. And he was on the money, man. He said, go out, out, out. And the second time was already less than the third time. He says, it should be good now.

That's so weird. Right. Nothing. That's so weird. Yeah. What is it like now to rely on your left hand? Because now you're thinking about if you're going to fuck somebody up, you're going to left hand them. You're not going to throw straight right anymore.

No, no, no. No problem? My triceps would still work. Oh. Oh, no. I will knock you out. And my uppercuts are coming back. The punches are still good.

The uppercuts. Oh, yeah. The uppercuts are a little less. Yeah, a little less because of the shoulder. But the shoulder also came back. Also the hook. You know, I tell people when I'm doing shadow boxing, I say, donercut's a little less. Yeah, a little less because of the shoulder, but the shoulder also came back. Also the hook. You know, I tell people when I'm doing a shadow boxing, I say, don't look at my right arm because it's probably going to be a little off.

Look at the left foot I'm doing. But no, my crosses are there. So thankfully my triceps came back. Maybe in 12 more years you'll get a full bicep. Who knows? Well, I mean, maybe less. I don't even focus anymore. I mean, if they figure out some way to fix it.

I mean, it's just like the medical advances that are happening are so magical. Yeah. It's a really, really incredible time. It doesn't stop. This whole talks with Mr. Kaku you had, you know, with the quantum computers and all that stuff. Michio Kaku, yeah. And it's all going to be probably in our bodies, right? Yeah.

That something like that eventually is going to happen. Yeah. What do you think about that, boss? I'm very scared of that because they can hack me then. Yeah. I don't think if you – I know. That's how you go right to that.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's what I would do if I'm a bad guy. I'm going to hack him. That's a real problem. Yeah. That's a real problem because that's what I think the people that control the world, Thank him.

That's a real problem. It's a real problem because that's what I think the people that control the world, they would genuinely like to have a one world government, one economy that the entire world shares, a digital currency that goes with a social credit system. So they can turn it on and off. And they can do whatever the fuck they want with you. B.J. Penn just made some post about that. If you have an electric car and you get arrested, or if they're looking for you,

they could literally tell your electric car to drive to the police station. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that. Yeah. I would never go full electric. I don't think it's, you know, get an electric but also get gas on the side.

I have an electric car that I love. I have a Tesla, and it's fucking magic. Oh, yeah. The speed of that thing is magic. Yeah, 2.3, right? Oh, I have... It's faster. I think it's like...

What is the Plaid 0 to 60? It's fucking insane. It's 1,100 horsepower. It's so fast. It's so fun. I mean, and it's so quiet. It's just like... That's my calm car.

It's my car that I love when I just want to just when I want to drive to work and just just chill out and Think and listen to music I drive that car cuz it just makes no sound Yeah That's Super super fan it but it's very safe too in that if you have to merge on the highway. You just hit the gas Yeah, yeah, it's like you're teleporting. I love that car. I love it so much.

It's so good. There's a lot of things. They have a weird steering wheel. It has the yoke steering wheel, so it's not a wheel. But now they offer it in a wheel, so they fixed the number one problem that I had with it. You still have to keep your hands on it for at least a minute. Oh, to do auto driving? Yeah, because people hang weights on it or something.

I don't fuck with that. I don't fuck with the auto driving. I mess around with it every now and then just for fun, but I never let it drive me around. I keep my hands on it. Do you fuck around with it, Jamie? You got the full auto drive, right? You got that beta, right?

Sometimes, here and there. If I'm on a 10-minute drive, I would maybe use it for four minutes of that 10-minute drive. It's not ready for prime time yet. I'm not... Yeah. I'm on a 10 minute drive, I would maybe use it for four minutes of that 10 minute drive. It's not ready for prime time yet. I'm not, who? Yeah. I'm not fucking, yeah. But the thing is, the way Tesla's work, Tesla has the absolute

most advanced auto driving that's ever existed. And they're getting information from all these vehicles and improving upon it with every iteration. So they're always getting these software updates. They're constantly working on and these engineers are fucking wizards yeah and they're making it better and better and it does drive really nice but I like to drive yeah you know like I drove my 1993

Porsche today it doesn't have power steering it doesn't have a radio it doesn't have air conditioning it doesn't have jack shit yeah It doesn't have air conditioning. It doesn't have jack shit. Yeah. And it's air cooled. It's just. But it's fun. Oh, my God. It's not even fast. It's so much slower than my Tesla. But my God, it's a visceral experience.

Like your whole body feels it when you drive it. It's like. It's fun. It's exciting. I love that stuff. I love it. It's exciting. I love that stuff. I love it. Yeah, 93. This is when I started fighting.

Imagine that. That's how old I am. I'm a freaking fossil. I remember in 90, I think it was 94 or 95, I watched Pedro Hizzo work out at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu. And that was when I realized how hard someone can kick you in the leg oh yeah yeah I watched him kick the heavy bag and I don't think there's ever I've never seen a human ever in all my day I've seen a lot of

people kick yeah I've never seen a human kick harder than Pedro Pedro his oh he's an animal because he's got technique and he's got the weight and he's got these giant fucking legs yeah oh my god yeah kick about him. It's not fun. He was kicking the bag, and I remember thinking, one of those. I remember when he fought Rico Rodriguez. He kicked Rico once, and Rico was looking at his face. He's like, what the fuck is that? Freaking thank heaven. Yeah, look at that.

Look, he's spinning somebody around. The dude caught air. Pedro, Dan Severin fought him, too. air Pedro Dan Severin fought him too he stopped Dan Severin with leg kicks I mean his his fucking leg kicks

were insane I mean Randy Couture when he fought him like they they had to really convince Randy to fight him

a second time and you know he had he had battered his fucking legs Cameron Randleman too he knocked out Josh Barnett too and it was a lot of that. His fucking Muay Thai.

And he was Marco Huas' prized pupil. He was his number one pupil. Pedro Hizzo was the fucking man. He's another one that people forget. Pedro Hizzo, his fucking leg kicks, man. And I'm telling you, I've seen so many people kick the bag I know one has ever impressed me with a leg kick a low kick on the bag like Pedro Hizzo look at the size of his fucking legs yeah

I mean the tree trunks and he just had this power that was you couldn't take them And this is before the calf kick. You know this is early days. He was fucking people up with just kicking the thighs As soon as he hit you a couple times it was just like oh jesus christ everybody's just like that's it that's it i'm done i'm done please please stop this fight please referees were a little bit more lenient back then and these are fighters imagine this happening to a person on the street oh if you don't know what a low kick is and you're not flexing. Well, Forrest Griffin kicked a reporter. He has some deal with a reporter. He said, I'll do an interview with you.

Let me kick your leg. Oh, and he's not holding back. And he full power low kicked him and put a hairline fracture in this dude's tibia. Oh. Was it a tibia or a femur? It's a special. One of the major bones. We just had to sign some monogamy together.

Oh, this is it, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, God! Oh, you know, this is... He didn't even kick him full blast. No, I don't think you can. Literally, you're going to break. It would be evil. It would be evil.

It would be evil. Check himself. Treat him for a hairline fracture of the femur. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Don't.

Reporters, if someone says that to you, say, no, thank you. I would rather not interview you, sir. I'm at the Sacrosanct Shrine with my wife, and this whole bus, people are yelling out of the bus, it's the skits. And they stop the whole bus, and they come out of the bus as he skits and they stop the whole bus and they come out and they want me, pictures,

and they want me to hit them. Oh God. So I go, you know, and he goes, thank you, but they look at me

like asshole and I go, what is the look? And my wife says, I think you have to hit him harder. I go, you serious?

Yeah. I go, come back. Bonk. And he's going, ah! I go, oh, thank you. Oh, are you serious? Yeah. I go, come back. Bonk! And he's going, ah! Oh, in the shoulder? They loved it. And then I start kicking the crap out of people's legs. It's fun.

But, you know, they were much happier. That's the weird thing. They want you to hurt them, because somehow that makes it... I don't know. I don't get it. Didn't Jason Ellis let Chuck Liddell in his prime

punch him in the arm full blast? I think there's a video of that. That's not a smart thing to do. Jason Ellis is a psychopath, though.

Yeah. He's crazy. Yeah. Funny. He's very funny. I think he enjoys a little bit of pain. Yeah.

There's something about that gentleman that's a little bit off. Yeah, here it is. This is Chuck in his fucking prime, too. Oh, no. Oh, okay.

Oh, God. Oh! Yeah, oh. I don't, yeah. You just heard the sound of Jason getting knocked. Yeah. In the arm. Did you see Chuck's, he wanted to go.

Yeah, he gets crazy. He gets crazy when he hits it. That fucking switch gets turned. Oh, yeah. That's another one. Chuck Liddell in his prime was a fucking monster. Because he could take it. He could take a shot in the chin so good that he would just fucking wade forward,

almost daring you to hit him and just fucking, ah! And then when he would win, he would rawr! That was freaking exciting, dude. It was crazy, man. He made the UFC. In 2005, when the UFC became popular, it was popular because of the Forrest Griffin, that the big final between Stefan Bonner and Forrest Griffin and the Ultimate Fighter made the UFC.

Yeah, 100%. Everybody watched it on TV. They're like, what is this? This is wild. But then you got to see the UFC. Yeah, 100%. Everybody watched it on TV. They're like, what is this? This is wild. But then you got to see the champion. Yeah. You got to see Chuck Liddell when he was a fucking beast. Put up Chuck Liddell versus Babalu. See if you can find that.

He was hunting people. Yeah. He was hunting people. And he was a wrestler that never wrestled. He never used his wrestling in the octagon other than to get up. He just wanted to fuck you up. And he was really good at it, too. And trained by John Hackleman, who's old school.

Just old school. That place that he had in San Luis Obispo, the pit, where he would make these guys do it. He was like the originator of all these crazy workouts with wheelbarrows and shit. There he is. Oh, freaking kicking. Chuck Liddell, man. People forget. He was a fucking monster. Because he is. Oh, fucking kicking. Chuck Liddell, man. People forget he was a fucking monster because he was a big, tall,

light heavyweight. He was a huge guy, crazy power, and you couldn't take him down. Yeah. His wrestling was incredible. And Babalu was tough as fuck. Yeah.

Babalu was another guy, elite, elite fighter. Babalu was a fucking animal, man. There's a crazy babalu soccer kick knockout of this really thick muscled guy forget who the dude was but babalu cracked him and then soccer kicked him it's oh oh see if you can find that See if you can find that You gotta give Babalu his props Because Babalu was another guy

A guy that people forgot There it is Is that it? Yes I forget who the guy was So he gets Yeah, it's right before that Boom!

I mean, with wrestling shoes on back then, right? Because they would let guys fight with wrestling shoes Brad Kohler? Is that who it was? I forget who the guy was I think shoes. Brad Kohler, is that who it was? I forget who the guy was. I think that's Brad Kohler, who was another tank. God damn those early days. Those early days were wild.

They're crazy. When guys would fight with wrestling shoes on, which is very interesting because you could do so much more with movement and with that grip from the wrestling shoes. I just had an event where he asked me for a student of his for Karate Combat. So I went to the show, and he's already there. I go, oh, this is two months ago. They already allowed you.

I go, yeah, man, I'm looking forward to this. But you can see that he's trained by Yves, you know. But Yves, that was also one of those guys that you should keep an eye on. He did the one knockout that he did one time. Josh Thompson. The jumping knee when he had the single leg. Did you ever see that? Yes.

I always told my students, I go, if somebody has a single leg on you, imagine you jump up with the same leg that you jumped with, knee him in the face, and then land on that same foot again. And freaking Eve pulled it off. Yeah. He and then land on that same foot again. Yeah. And freaking Eve pulled it off. Yeah. He did it. Oh, Eve was elite, man.

Yeah. Eve was elite, man. So here, oh, this is the Josh Thompson KO. And this, by the way, this is when Josh Thompson was one of the best in the world. So it's in a scramble. They break loose here.

Josh Thompson gets up, and Eve catches him right here. Boom! Oh, and I remember that, yes. With a jumping round kick. And then Josh Thompson was the first guy to ever stop Nate Diaz. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Josh Thompson.

I was there. Same kick. Yeah, yeah. Head kick. Head kick of Nate Diaz. I was with Eve at an underground fight somewhere. I was with Eve at an underground fight somewhere. You know, the athletic commission would come in first,

and they said, okay, there's not going to be... They made up this story that it's going to be just wrestling. Two guys are going to roll against each other. And as soon as they left the building, they closed the doors. They said, okay, everything is on. And then the real fighting started. And I remember I was standing next to the cage, and he's on somebody, and he said, because I'm in his corner, I trained him.

And he starts, he's hitting the guy. It was just crosses, crosses, crosses. I go, Eves. And he looks at me. I go, left hook, right straight. And he goes, bang, bang, out. And I go, try and see you don't want to waste any energy. But he's always funny like that.

He goes, oh, just bam, bam. That's the nickname now. Bam, bam. Bam, bam. Bam, bam. Pass with the stairs, bam, bam. I had this story with Marco Huas. We go to Eves Edwards Bam Bam. Bam Bam. Bam Bam. Pass with the S. Bam Bam. I had this story with Marco Huas. We go to Yves Edwards in Houston, and there's this cup.

I'm drinking a Heineken outside, and this little cop is there with shades on in the middle of the night, you know, exactly, with the pumped-up arms. And he's telling me to get rid of my beer. So I said, sure. So I start drinking the beer. He says, stop drinking, stop drinking, stop drinking. But I finish it, I throw it away. He says, I told you to get rid of the beer. I say, sure. So I start drinking the beer. He said, stop drinking, stop drinking, stop drinking. But I finish it, I throw it away. He says, I told you to get rid of the beer.

I say, and I just did. Everything is okay. You want to go? And then he goes, no, he's from Holland. Like that's different here in America. Well, it is with drinking. It is. Yeah.

But anyway, the guy was angry and he left. It is an outside event. And there's a fence in between wherever it is. And the cop now comes over. He's sitting shotgun. He has his arm hanging out the window, still with the shades on. His partner's

driving and he's just deadlocking me in the eyes. So I moon him. Right? And Marco Hula stands next to me and I go because they start running after us and I say

now we gotta run and then we beeline the next day I wake up and Marco has his whole fingers like all bandaged up and still to this day I don't know what what happened

but then I said I said to him I said what did you do he goes you did that apparently I did it but he never said

what it was but you did that I did it but he didn't tell you what he had to do he did you do? He goes, you did that. Apparently I did it, but he never said what it was. You did that? I did it. But he didn't tell you what he had to do. He did not do it. He did not tell me. He didn't want to incriminate himself. Maybe it's too dark.

Oh, here's the flying knee. This is this. Yeah. Boom. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah, that was Elite XC, right?

Yeah, that was so badass. That was Kimbo was fighting on the same show. Yes. Elite XC was crazy. That was interesting, right? Yeah, that was so badass. That was Kimbo was fighting on the same show. Yes. Elite XC was crazy. That was interesting, right? Wasn't that CBS? I think it was CBS. Which was like the early, early

days and they took a wild chance. And that's when Kimbo had become, he was like the first guy to become popular from internet videos. Gigantic. Yes. I mean, we would go to freaking, we would go to a different state, they like to play video games, so we would buy a console somewhere.

But you can't walk on the streets with that guy. Everybody knows him. Oh, yeah. Well, he had a crazy look, too. The bald head with the beard, he looked so good. He was such a good guy, too. Everybody wants to help him. Oh, nice dude, man.

Such a good guy. The whole group, That whole entourage Freaking laughing all day long It's hilarious those guys are crazy Funny He fought that cop from Massachusetts In that wild fight That was a bare knuckle boxing fight

In a karate dojo Do you remember that? With the guillotine that you complained about. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Sean. He won the UFC. Gannon.

Sean Gannon. Sean Gannon went to the UFC. He fought Brandon Lee Hinkle. Yeah. And he got beat up. Yeah. But didn't he win before he was the wild card or something, the UFC before? I don't think so.

I think. Oh, I thought. Look at Kimbo back in the day. Look at him. What did Kimbo die of? He had like a heart attack or something? Heart attack, yeah. It's crazy.

Because he was pretty young. He was in his 40s, right? Yeah, so this was a brawl. This was back when Kimbo was the man. Everybody was terrified of Kimbo. But Sean Gannon, who was an MMA fighter, was also a cop and was just fucking incredibly tough and had wild cardio and really knew how to like extend himself in like a real war and this was a crazy fight the end of it face oh he dazed him yeah Sean Gannon's at the end of this his face was like completely hematoma yeah

so he got this guillotine and they said they judge fight in the ground no no but you didn't say anything about standing up there was like a lot of dispute about whether or not that was okay why they blurring out the back of his shirt probably middle fingers or something probably yeah once you let this go so this guy goes it look at this is akimbo's people are there's trying to separate this because there's some dispute as to whether or not a standing guillotine constitutes grappling. So then Kimbo gets him on the ground. Now, Kimbo's violating the rules because he's trying to ground and pound him. And Sean pushes him off.

Sean gets back up to his feet. And then they go back to war. And so they were giving them 30 counts. Not a 10 count, but a 30 count. Because at one point in time, oh, look at that liver shot. Oh, that was nice. That was a nice liver shot. And especially because he's Southpaw.

It's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bill Spence does that. You can see it. He's hurting from it. He's hurting from it. He's trying to shake it off. Yep. Again, again. There it is. Yeah, yeah. Bill Spann says that. You can see he's hurting from it. He's hurting from it. He's trying to shake it off. Yep. Again.

Again. There it is. There it is. It's the liver. The boss root and special. Boop, boop, boop. Yeah. And so this fight went on for, shit, I don't know how many minutes. Yeah, a long time. Fucking crazy. And the pace. Yeah, and so the

like when he knocks him down, he drops him, and so Kimbo goes down, and so when he knocks him down, he drops him. And so Kimbo goes down, and then they start the count. They separate him. They pulled Sean off of him. There's a lot of people involved in this. And then they give Kimbo like 30 seconds. Like, look how long they give it.

Play this out. Play this out. So they separate them. 17, 18, 19, 20, 21. Oh, look. Sean's face is so fucked up they're blurring his face. Look how fucked up his face is.

And he gets back up. Oh, come on. Yeah. It was over. It was over. Yeah. Yeah. It was over. It was over. Crazy. The early days, man. Those were the days. Those were the days.

See, if Kimbo was around now in bare-knuckle boxing, he'd have a place. That would have been his freaking jam. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, it's interesting. Houston Alexander's made a res jam. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, it's interesting. Houston Alexander's made a resurgence. Oh, wow. Houston Alexander's won four fights in bare-knuckle boxing, and I think he's 50. Jeez.

He's a fucking... And he's a radio DJ. He just won. 51, sorry. 51! 51 years old. Houston Alexander, man. When Houston Alexander burst onto the scene in the UFC, he was starchin' people.

51-year-old Houston Alexander survives brutal rib roasting, remains undefeated in bare-knuckle boxing. Incredible. And Houston, when he first fought in the UFC, God, what was his first fight? Was it a... Who did he fight? It says he knocked out Keith Jardine in 2007.

That's right. Pull that fight up. Houston Alexander versus Keith Jardine. Because Houston Alexander was all fucking... And this is 2007. Think of that. Think of that. 16 years ago.

He's fighting MMA. And when nobody had known him, nobody knew who he was, and he was a radio DJ. And everybody was like, look at this guy. All jacked and muscular, but fucking incredible power. I mean. Oh. Yeah, and he got tested, too, in that fight.

Yeah, but in the clinch. Look at his power. Wow, nice. I like that. Oh, the uppercut. This was a big, big upset at the time. Oh, I remember this. Yeah.

Yeah, I remember that. Bro. Houston Alexander was the fucking man. Yeah. He fought Kimbo in the UFC. They had like a decision fight,

but it was a crazy war. Look at that. Houston motherfucking Alexander. We have a problem. That's been used too many times.

Yeah. My new name is Houston. Look at that. Look how jacked he was. Woo! And amazing. He was the guy from the actor.

Oh, common. And John Wick. Common. He's a rapper. Yeah. Oh, the guy from the actor? Oh, Common. And John Wick. Common. He's a rapper. Yeah. And John Wick 3. Or 2. Yeah, John Wick 2. Yeah. Houston Alexander. 51 years old. Still thrown down. Crazy. He's basically my age. Bare knuckle boxing

and winning. Look at that. Amazing. Still a bad motherfucker. Houston Alexander remains undefeated in bare knuckle boxing. Man. That's amazing. Yo Romero. Yeah.

Yo Romero. Still the least. No one knows how old he is because he was born in Cuba. He might be 100 years old. But the coca leaves. But that guy, boy, the fucking athleticism that guy had. Everybody that fought him said hitting him is like hitting metal. Yeah, yeah. And they all say he's using it.

It's always clean. I love that. I love that. He was a part of the Cuban program. This sounds really freaky. No one really knows what they did with him when he was young. Oh, for real? Yes.

Here's the thing. I've told this story before. Unfortunately, I'll tell it again for other people who haven't heard it. He fought for the UFC, and then they brought him to a doctor. He had a fractured orbital, and they brought him to a doctor, and the doctor calls the UFC and goes, where did you get this guy? And he goes, yeah, he's amazing right he goes no no no You don't understand. I've never seen a human being like this

He goes the tendons in his eye are three times larger than normal He goes in his orbital fracture has already started healing because this is insane. Yeah, yeah Who knows what the fuck they did over there in Cuba because I think think they took some pages out of the Russians, like when they created Alexander Corellon. Yeah. Because Corellon. That's a freaking animal. Corellon, there's a photo in my gym out there of Corellon.

And I put that photo up just to remind me what a pussy I am. Because it's Corellon and his teeth are hurting and he's lifting this guy up in the air. Find that photo of Corellon because it's fucking wild. That photo. I have a giant photo of that in the gym out there. Look at that motherfucker. It's scary. He was like 6'2", 300 pounds, and he moved like a cat.

Yeah. And he was famous for hoisting people up in the air and fucking slamming them on the ground. People would lay flat on the floor, and he would still suplex them. Go to Alexander Carell and highlight. Yeah, because they were just- Terrified. I'm on the ground people would lay flat on the floor, and he would still suplex him go to Alexander Carell and highlight yeah because they were just Fight his wrestling was so different because he was killing you with the ground yeah, he was smashing Basically beating you up with the ground yeah, everybody else is trying to wrestle though. He was trying to Mean undefeated it up until he fought Rulon Garnett.

Look at this. The athleticism that this guy had. It was crazy. Look at the size of that motherfucker. Look at Ivan Drago. By the way, the idea that he's clean is just shut the fuck up. Just stop. Just let that all go.

Who cares? Just look what's possible. Look what's possible with Russian science and technique. Obviously the technique was stellar too, but the training, the discipline, everything. And this guy was a motherfucker, dude.

Look at that. Boom! And these are 270 pound men. Big men. Heavyweights. And he was so fucking terrifying. Amazing. What happened with the Rulon Gardner thing? I know he beat him, but it was something controversial.

It was a new rule. The new rule was, it's Greco-Roman, and the new rule is if you could separate the grip, it was one point. And Rulon separated his grip. But that rule didn't exist before then. It doesn't mean anything Yeah, yeah, they gave him a point for that I guess it's because there wasn't enough points being scored in some of the matches. Yeah, so they changed this They didn't change it for Rulon. They just changed it and rule on one and rule on was another beast

They listen to that history like a plane crash. Everybody's dead. He swims to the shore Like a plane crash, everybody's dead, he swims to the shore. Is that what happened with him? Oh, dude, he almost lost his foot, frostbite, everything. He survives everything, this guy. That was a different thing, right? The frostbite was a snowmobile accident. Oh, I thought it was from the swimming back to the shore after the plane crashed. With Rulon, the thing was the...

So Rulon was also an enormous country-fed motherfucker who was a hell of a wrestler. Hell of a wrestler. And he went off to fight in pride. Remember? Yeah, but that's what I mean. I helped him with Ryan Parsons. That's why I was in the corner. That's where you heard these crazy stories.

Yeah, and that was 0-0. And then Rulon got him to separate the grip at one point in time. And that was it. You find it? Yeah, I think that was it. That find it? I think that was it. That was it? That was it. He just won.

And then when they come back, he's up 1-0. Yeah, interesting. They went to the tape to check about his grip here. So he gets right there. He just changed his hands. That's crazy. That's crazy. And that's the great Jeff Blatnick doing commentary.

Yeah. Good guy. Rest in peace. The nicest. So nice guy. The nicest. Instrumentals. Yeah. Also in the rules in peace. The nicest. Son, it's a nice guy. The nicest. Instrumental. Yeah.

Also in the rules. Together with Big John. Yeah, instrumental also in bringing credibility to the UFC because here you have this guy who's this Olympic wrestler, this elite wrestler who is embracing MMA and talking about how important it is. Yeah, and this is what they would do. They would flatten out. Nick Gardner was hanging in there in the clinch.

Yeah, Rulon, like you said, he's a freaking animal too, man. Oh, my God. He's a special human being. Why don't you go to the Olympics? You know, you're freaks. One point, and Rulon Gardner, gold medalist. Wow. And then he went off to fight in pride,

and when he was fighting in pride, he was jabbing people, just fucking hitting them with that giant canned ham fist of his. Boom, boom. I'm just thinking about the karate guy who won the gold medal by getting knocked out. You remember? Oh, yes. The last Olympics. Yes, yes. I go, imagine, you wake up and you say, what happened?

You're the world champion, dude. Because in karate, in the Olympics, you're not supposed to hit him hard. But he bopped into it when you saw it. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. This is karate combat. Try to have those guys fighting full contact in the karate combat cage. So unfortunately, it didn't happen. Yeah.

So this dude, he went right into that kick, and he lost because of that in 2020, which is insane. I mean, it literally makes zero sense. Insane. Yeah, because he dipped into it. Of course. He bumped into it. It's 100% legal. 100.

And look at this. He's got the COVID mask on, too. That's crazy. Remember that crap? We're never going to forget those stupid masks. Oh, I was so happy we didn't do that with our gym. Yeah, that's nice. I just taped everything off.

Yeah. And then we just let everybody go on the inside, on the backside. And not one had COVID. Everybody's rolling at the gym. Everybody's doing it. Just be freaking healthy. We were lied to. Yeah.

It wasn't something that was terrifying and dangerous to fit people. It just wasn't. It was dangerous to people that already had comorbidities. 94% of the people that died had some massive comorbidity. Multiple comorbidities for some of them.

It's just... It was a strange time. Obviously, there was a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on right now. If you go and try to think about what should have been done or shouldn't have been done but most people that were healthy should have been left alone. That's it especially with the ventilator stuff there's a lot of people died there. Oh that was another report that just came out. The ventilators, the people that died in the ventilators died from the

ventilators. A giant percentage of them. They shouldn't have been put on the ventilators. And this doctor was saying that they put people on the ventilators to protect the hospital staff and the doctors and the nurses. Because these people had COVID and they figured, well, let's just put them on a ventilator. And they didn't realize they were destroying their lungs. But how – I still, to this day, I can't get it. So there's a lot of people who need to be in on it then, right? Even the doctors? I don't think they were in

on it. I just think that they didn't know what was going on. Brainwashing? Yeah, I mean, and then there was also people telling, you know, there was Fauci and all these people that were telling people that this was this horrible, devastating illness that was going to destroy

everyone and no one was safe. You have to get vaccinated. No one's safe, which is crazy. Yeah. Especially, did you get it? Did you get COVID? No, no, no. You never got COVID at all?

Oh, I had COVID, but I did ivermectin, and it was five days. It was good. I had no problem. And I've been traveling. We went to Budapest. We did everything for the Karate Combat shows. But that was the,

I don't know if you ever saw the show with the background, with the people flying. We go back in the future. We go in the past. We go to the roots of Okinawa. It's all because of green screens that we had with the Unreal Engine that they created. And now it's live because in the beginning, they couldn't

do live shows with it. So that's recently, like three years ago, now you can do it live like The Mandalorian, you know, Blade Runner. They all use that, those movies. And now that's the technology

that Karate Kombat uses and now it can be live. So before it was live to tape. Yeah. You know, and everybody had to shut up. Nobody could say if they won or lost.

Oh, wow. They go, stop betting. Well, there was definitely some MMA fights where the results were available, but the public didn't know about them and people bet on them. Yeah. Yeah. I had heard about a bunch of those.

VFX. Wow. That's incredible. That's amazing. They did it all with a green screen. They. That's incredible. That's amazing. You did it all with a green screen. They did it, man. Wow. We're doing a really good job.

How many events are you guys having a year? Eight to ten this year now. Yeah? Yeah. The chairman. And then we have the vice president, Kovacs, who used to be a gold medal winner in the Olympics 2009

not the Olympics on the world championships in 2009 I believe and he's gathering everybody together but then you see that fight you know

the Rafael Agaia you know for Raymond Daniels it would suck but it put freaking karate on the map nobody would have expected that

the same what you saw with Joshua Quay getting knocked out by Ibrahim that was a guy who was only doing point fighting and now the guy that you just saw kicking Quay getting knocked out by Ibrahim. That was a guy who was only doing point fighting. And now the guy that you just saw kicking the guy in the face

was his very first full contact match. The guy never fought full contact. Oh, wow. So he just came straight from point. So these guys are doing freaking phenomenal, you know? I always said that that was the one thing that was missing from MMA. Before Michael Venom Page entered, I was like, a really elite point fighter the way they can close distance is so different so but badass it's incredible yep their ability to blitz and leap

forward like those guys are so accustomed to doing that against other elite black belts like fainting fainting fainting, fainting, fainting, and they dive in. For a regular fighter, an MMA fighter, maybe a plotting kind of a guy, they're sitting ducks. But you can see, Wonderboy, Ryota Machida, that's a different level, man. Wide stance, and they're still

moving really agile. How about Wonderboy still fucking winning? Still winning. He's 40 years old. How old is Wonder Boy? Is he 40? He's got to be 40. With the fact that he beat, you know, Kevin Holland, who's a motherfucker. The way.

Yeah. Like, fighting. He was standing here, and he fights a kick through the guard. I mean, his timing is bizarre. I just did a seminar with him, and his father, Ray, what is it, in Kentucky? Somerville, Kentucky. They're good people, man. He makes you feel good all the time.

Is he in North Carolina? Is that where he is? South. South Carolina? That's where he is now? Yeah. Yeah, those guys, man. What Wonderboy did, first of all, Kevin Holland did the craziest thing in that fight.

He agreed to not go to the ground. He was like, let's not go to the ground. Let's just stand up and fight. Like, okay, now he doesn't have to think about takedowns at all? Good luck. God bless. This is not what you want. This is not what you want.

That was not a smart decision. That was to Kevin Randleman to me in the elevator the day before the fight. It opens up, and I'm by myself, and there he is. And he gets in, and the door closes closes and we can see each other's reflection. Is this you and him in the room? Oh, no. And I go, something. He goes, I'm doing good.

I'm doing good. He says, listen, if you promise to keep your feet on the ground, I won't take you down. So if I wouldn't kick him, he would not take me down. Wow. I go, serious? Yeah. I go, huh?

I say, let me think about that because because I'm just laughing, and he's laughing. So the elevator goes open. I say, okay, good luck tomorrow. He goes, yeah, you too. So the elevator closes. So we're in the fight, and the first thing he does is slapping his thigh, like, kick me. And I go, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

You just said. So my plan was not going to kick anyway. Because against a wrestler like that, if I kick, he's going to grab my kick and that's it, right? So as soon as he invited me, I thought, oh, I got you. I'm going to act like I did a roundhouse kick and I'm going to turn it into a front kick. So if he thinks it's a roundhouse kick and he's going to shoot in, I'm going to kick him straight in the face with the front kick, with my heel, fights over, bada bing, bada boom, I won.

That was the game plan. Didn't work out like that. So as soon as I made the kick, he backed away. And I go, wait. He backs away from my kicks. Let's start kicking. And then the second kick, I threw a two down. That was a fight where you won

that fight primarily off your back. Yeah, that's what Big Joe said. Because you can't just lay on top of a guy, and you are smashing with elbows and punches off of your back. Yeah. His son just won the Nevada championship this weekend on Saturday basketball. Yeah, I was posting about that, the basketball team. So that was really cool.

Kevin Randleman was such a freak. So athletic. Remember when he knocked out Mir Kevin Randleman was such a freak. So athletic. Remember when he knocked out Mirko Krokop? Dude. Crazy. And then the second fight right after that,

the suplex is Fedor Emelianenko. Yeah, that's right. When is this gonna happen? Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. But Fedor, man. The fact that like seconds later

he catches him in an armbar. Yeah. Kettleman to Kimura. Special guy. Oh my God. Fedor was, you know him in an armbar. Yeah. Killed him in the Kimura. Special guy. Oh, my God. Fedor was, you know, when we look at goats. He's got to be in there. He's got to be.

He's got to be in there. There's no one. I think Jon Jones. If you want to say who's the best ever. Yeah. God, it's hard to argue with Jon Jones. Yeah. Never lost.

Beat everybody. Fought everybody. Yep. Smashed everybody. And then goes up to the heavyweight and makes it easy. Yep. Never lost, beat everybody, fought everybody. Yep. Smashed everybody, and then goes up to the heavyweight and makes it easy. Yep. I mean, obviously you can't do MMA math, but if you look at what Francis Ngannou had, a long fight with Cyril Ghosn, and Jon Jones just took him apart instantaneously. In seconds, yep.

You know? He's an animal. And he's super talented. Super. This is a guy that if he stays straight like on everything also the outside

fighting you know it's gonna be very hard to beat he's got no patterns right he doesn't have any pattern

it's constantly switching it's like hard to figure a guy like that out I was training him I was interviewing him before a fight in Albuquerque

and they flew me over for inside MMA. And he says, what are you doing afterwards? I said, oh, I go to the hotel. I'm going to eat something. He says, man, can you train me for an hour? I go, sure, yeah, I would love that. So we're on the focus mitts, and I hit the fourth shot, and he goes, toot, toot, toot. I say, go faster. You're faster than this. He goes, pa, pa, pa. I said, toot, go fast. I said, just think this, ta, ta, ta-da. Da-da-da-da. Just think that in your head. And he goes, da-da-da-da.

And he stops and he looks at me and goes, dude. I go, yeah, because this is how I work with sound effects. If you keep them high paced, your body will automatically trigger and you're going to be that fast. I go, dude. So two weeks later, I have Greg Jackson on the show. And he's walking in on Inside MMA. I go, Greg, what's up? And he goes, I'm doing good.

He said, what have you been doing to the gym? I go, what do you mean? He says, everybody's making these stupid, crazy sound effects. I say, are they faster and more explosive? He goes, yeah. I go, you're welcome, dude. Where did that come from? Is that something you just invented yourself?

I always did that. I put combination, only reload punches, there's a beat. So if I say two and a cross hook, will be two and then a cross hook. So pa-pa, pa-pa. That's the first, in my mind, it's already. When I throw a combination, it's immediately identified with a pattern. So with three shots, one, two, three, and then 11 shots crossed, ta-ta-ta, ta-ta.

That's in my head right away. Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. And I've always been doing that somehow. It's really weird. I got this crazy, crazy student. He's the lead actor of Night Agent. Did you hear about that new show on Netflix? It broke the top five of highest viewers ever from the top five. So it's big.

Gabriel Basso is his name. And he's a great actor. He was in Hillbilly Elegy. He was one of the main guys there. The story was about him. But anyway, this guy is a freak. Like he trained two and a half months with us. Yes, he had some experience before but

when you give him instructions he immediately does it like Kevin James is like one of those guys but then this one is like when I came home my wife said how is he I go he's me but way better than me and the way he hits the first time I told him when I saw him I said if you get in a street fight

do not hit the person in the head you're gonna kill a guy I mean that's how hard he hits. 185. He jacks my arms up. It's like bizarre. But listening to instructions immediately does everything you say. So he's on a movie set for 10 weeks,

and he calls me. He says, hey, I'm going to be home in between before I start shooting the movie, the Netflix show. I have like 10 days. I want to fight. You've been training. He says, a little bit on the back.

I go, you sure you want to do that? I said, yeah, I just want to know how it feels. I go, okay,

so let me make some phone calls. So I make a phone call. I got in contact with George Francis. He's owning a Thai boxing company and we find a guy for him.

He's 7'1". He's a tall guy, 6'5". And I said, you want to do that? He goes, yeah, yeah,

sure. I go, and they're already asking me are you sure because he never fought I said listen man the guy is a freak but I don't know

how he's going to perform under pressure but that's always the big question mark but it looks to me since he's an actor and since you know he's dealing with pressure

the whole time I think it's going to be okay but you never know but I think it will be okay oh there's him this is the fight this is the fight yeah so he comes up with this song the atlantic commission lady goes like that's a stupid song he goes hey hey while he's walking

up hey that's my song don't talk bad about my song. He's like completely like whatever. Just very relaxed. Yeah, and I tell him, I said, what do I do? I say, left hook to the head and a cross to the body. Boom, there's the liver shot starts. This is just, this is the very first time that he fought, right? So I tell him, I want you to throw a left hook to the head who's undefeated 7-0 left hook and then he throws a left hook

with a cross to the body and he comes from a movie set he didn't train a lick you gotta know that as well right I mean he hasn't been sparring and in his second time of training

second day training he broke his hand or hurt his hand. I wanted the cross to the body. It's coming, boom. There we go. There it is. So now he gets an eight count and he's looking at me, what do I do?

I go, do the same thing. Who crossed to the body? And then he just just once that connects yeah that guy afterwards went like that i've never been hit like this boom oh it is funny if some people just have natural power it's very weird isn't it yeah but also without like i said without training never been in there, just wanted to do this. I go, dude, are you sure? And then his right hand, he hurts on the second day of training, which, by the way, he had only seven days.

There he goes. Yeah, this is it. Wow. Just across to the body. Power is a strange thing. It's like you either have it or you do not have it. He just did that. I just saw him post yesterday something. They have these bars that you grab with the fingers.

You know, those flat things you have to pull up. 86 kilos he lifted. Jesus. So it's grip strength. It's flat, the bar, right? What is that, like 190 pounds? What is 86 kilos? Yeah, that's around that. Jesus Christ. That's crazy, right?

That's crazy. He just does it. And then he's a drummer, a crazy drummer. Then he's an artist. He makes drawings. Well, his agency gets a phone call from some art gallery saying that he could be the next big thing. Wow. So he's just a guy who could do anything. He can do anything.

Wow. There's people like that out there. Oh, yeah, and a bunch of them that we don't even know. Yeah, I know. That's what's wild. That's scary like that out there. Oh, yeah, and a bunch of them that we don't even know. Yeah, I know. That's what's wild. That's scary. Maybe the aliens. Well, that's where a guy like Houston Alexander just slips in the mix and knocks out Keith Jardine.

Like, where the fuck? There's a lot of those guys out there. Yeah. There's guys out there. There's freaks out there. Yeah. Isn't that the great thing about life? It is a great thing about life.

It's an interesting thing about life, though. You would never imagine that certain people have certain skills or that certain people just have an ability to learn things. Do you believe, you have to, right? Aliens are already living among us, right? Aliens?

Now we're talking, boss. Now you're talking my language. Why can't they? Like freaking Yoel Romero. You're talking about that, right? Three times bigger. Yeah. I don't think he's an alien.

No, no, but I mean. He's a product of a sports program that's very elite. Also, there's genetics. There's incredible training. There's a lot going on, but I don't think the aliens are even remotely interested. No, no. No, no, no. I'm not saying that, but there's got to be. If even remotely interested in it. No, no. But no, no, no.

I'm not saying that. But there's got to be, if they live among us, there's got to be freaks, right? But they cannot expose themselves, right? Because otherwise everybody would know. Maybe that's John Jones' secret. Maybe he's an alien. Yeah, got to ask. Maybe Mighty Mouse is an alien, too.

Yeah. I don't think so. I think, I mean, I think if there are aliens amongst us, they're watching us to make sure we don't blow ourselves up. That's 100%, yeah. Especially, but that's why they hang out at the nuclear sites a lot, right? Yeah. I've had so many conversations with people that are-

Yeah, Ryan Graves. That was a nice interview. Very interesting, right? But the cool thing was, you know, because that's when I put it together with Mr. Kaku that you had also, but they were talking about when they would arrive, the aliens were already waiting for them. They knew exactly where they were going to go.

And I go, that's quantum computers he was talking about. There's no more secrets. Yes. You see, so they're already way ahead. I mean, if they're just a thousand years more advanced than us, just a thousand, it's impossible to understand what they're capable of. And now maybe a million years. Imagine if they're a million years more advanced than us. Just a thousand. Yeah. It's impossible to understand what they're capable of. And now maybe a million years.

Imagine if they're a million years more advanced. Yeah, yeah. No, that's what I tell people. We, our age, we saw every, I saw our TV change from black and white to color. Yes. From 12 channels, you have to press the button and it turns orange, like click, click. Yes. You know, 12 buttons.

That was it. Remote control. Oh my God. Yeah. You know, and then we would go out, you know, 12 buttons. That was it. Remote control. Oh, my God. And then we would go out. It was pretty much universal. We would go to other people on the outside. They're watching TV, and we would change the channel. And we thought it was hilarious.

And I just started hitting the TV. And then the phones and the cell phones. I remember the first time there was an answering machine. I was like, this is the craziest thing. Yeah. You can call someone and leave a message. Yeah. This is nuts.

Yeah. I had a voice dialer. You know, there's things you say, home, and then you hold it against the phone. You go, do-do-do-do-do-do. And then it would call. Oh, yeah. My buddies go like, oh, my God. I said, they're going to have this in phones.

You watch. He goes, oh, they're going to be phones. Without a wire, 100%. I said, they're going to have this in a wire 100 i said they're going to have this in there i guarantee you that there has to be you know yeah now it's it's crazy what we're experiencing now is the probably the biggest change in human civilization that the world has ever seen and it's happening right in front of us just with the internet and then with social media and smartphones and all these things that have happened since you know the early

1990s to what we're experiencing now I remember when I first came to Hollywood in 1994 I got a computer my friend Robbie took me to Comp USA remember Comp USA and I had a computer and a dial-up modem was a Took forever just to download text. Oh. Just to watch text. But I was like, this is insane. This is insane.

We had the Commodore 64. 64 for 64,000 kilobytes. That was it. Played everything on it. Freaking Tetris. Yeah. That's not even a picture on a freaking phone right now. I know.

It's nothing. It's crazy. That's not even a picture on a freaking phone right now. I know. It's nothing. It's crazy. It's crazy. I remember in also 94, 95, Maurice Smith was fighting for Pancras, and we came in his hotel room, and he had speakers in every corner, and he had a computer.

And I go, what's that? He goes, it's a computer. He says, it's got to be with now in 10 years. It's going to be the biggest thing ever. I go, that thing? He goes, just mark my words. Wow. He was right.

He was right. He had speakers in his hotel room? Yeah, he had connected speakers at every corner. He had a speaker so he had a good sound system in his hotel room. Yeah, it's funny. You know what I had? Pelicons with targets everywhere.

That's my hotel room. Pelicons? Oh, yeah. In Japan, you can buy these Glock. When I traveled to Holland, they stopped me and they go, boss? He says, this is the real one. And they put my Glock 17 next to it. I go, okay, yeah.

A little close. Exactly the same. Especially because it's ceramic. It's also plastic. But I was really good with them because they always asked me, why did you learn how to shoot? I go, that's a little it. In Japan, I would just shoot little targets. you know so but I was really good with them because they always ask me why did you learn how to shoot they go that's a little it

in Japan I would just shoot little targets we would shoot each other on the street the guys the fighters we were only allowed

to shoot each other and below the waist below the waist oh god but imagine they play video games and they go pong

those are fucking powerful too man those were okay they were like little plastic balls. Did you see the guy, the samurai guy on, what is it, Stanley Superhumans? You saw the show, right? Where they shoot the pellet gun at him, and with a samurai sword, he cuts it in half.

Wow. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And you see that in slow motion. So the guy, I think it's 500 feet a second, the gun shoots, and he's just standing with his sword. And as soon as the guy shoots, you see him cutting it,

and he freaking hits the pellet. You look it up. Okay, we'll find that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, look at this. There we go. That's insane.

How crazy is that? That is insane. That's insane. How crazy is that? That is insane. By the time they moved the sword into position, the pellet would have traveled past them. Wow.

And then he finds the pellet sliced in half. Dude. Yeah, there's people like that out there. Practice over and over and over and over again. There's this guy who comes to pick somebody up for an interview, and he's on a tandem and he's blind. What? And he picks the interviewee up, the Stanley Suburban, you go... Oh yeah, he uses...

Echolocation. Yeah. And they bring him to a different city, so he doesn't know anything. They put him in front of a phone booth. And I'm not talking a phone booth. You open up and you see the phone. He goes, that's a phone. I go, okay.

That's a car. That's a trash can. That's a smaller car. Wow. Yeah, just by making sounds. Dude, so people out there, man, I love that kind of stuff. Putting plates to your head, did you see that?

Ceramic, anything. Doesn't need to be metal, wood. With his mind, he can wrap, grab anything and attach it to his head. What? Yeah, it's also a Stan Lee's. How? He said his mind will trap it. And then he does it with ceramic plates.

It sticks to his freaking forehead. It's not a trick? It's not a trick. Scientists are literally going after him. But that's the same with Joel, Joel, Joel. What's his name? Greenstein? Did you ever hear about him?

Oh, dude. The Mighty Adam? No. You never heard about the Mighty Adam? No. You never heard about the Mighty Adam? No. Hallelujah, man. This guy, 130 pounds, strongest man in the world. People go, yeah, right.

Six of 12 pennies, he'll bite in half, bite straight through. You go, nah, that's not true. No, no, no. He has dentists and doctors. They're writing journals about this guy because it's impossible what he's doing. You give him a horseshoe and he says, what form do you want to have it?

The question mark, he goes like, he says he becomes one with it. He says, I just become one with the metal. He just bows Benson in front of his face. What is his name? Joel Greenstein. The Mighty Adam. So what is this from?

He stopped the plane. 1928? Yeah, around there. He's fighting. This is in the time when the Nazis came and the propaganda. And this was in New York. And there's this article about him. A newspaper article

that the police says we came there to save the crowd from him not to save him from the crowd because he was tearing those Nazis a new a new one wow good started wrestling left Poland for the United States yeah I'm gonna try to find it's just a bunch of articles about him but he bit through nails broke chains and held down an airplane with his hair yeah some other guy tries it he freakin died his assaulted by six men sent them all the hospital that's handily beat up 20 Nazi sympathizers Wow dude they shot him in his forehead like a 22 because the guy was in love with his wife and he wanted his wife didn't penetrate the skull jesus christ yeah here's something there's this is at the very old language here i don't know he's gonna do something he's talking i have audio

i think the nail is to the lumber let's examine it he used his hand to put the nail is through the lumber. Let's examine it. He used his hand to put the nail in wood. Whoa. Watch this. He's bending nails with his teeth. He bites through them. Look. What the fuck?

Dude, I read his book. It's exactly the same as I said. Clean living. No smoking. No alcohol. No squandering your life nights by playing cards in stuffy rooms. And keep oxygen out of your lungs. And inhale monoxide and dioxide.

And get cancer of the lungs and also weak heart and heart attack and kaput. Whoa. Weird. Dude, his book, it's insanity. You go, there's no way this is possible. And they go to a dentist and he checks out his teeth and while he's doing it,

he bites the metal thing that is in his mouth, bites it in half. And the guy writes about that. What are you going to do against a guy like that? and while he's doing it, he bites the metal thing that is in his mouth, bites it in half. And the guy writes about that. What are you going to do against a guy like that? 135 pounds. Well, there's people that are just built different, right? I mean, you've got to think.

There's guys with big noses, little noses, guys with little dicks, giant dicks. People that are built different. Yeah, yeah. There's a big spectrum of how people are built. Yeah. I like how you go from noses to dicks. That's what it is, right? It's like big brains, small brains. Some people's brains work great.

Some people's brains are just like dog shit. Yeah. I mean, that's a weird thing, you know, going back to power, like why people have power. Like you can't predict. Why people have power like you can't predict you can get a guy who's like first day of classes? And yeah, you have them hit a heavy bag and you just go Jesus Christ. What the fuck is he doing? Why is he how can he do it? And then you have someone who looks athletic and you have them do it and they just can't generate any power Yeah, very strange

You saw that guy who goes dressed up as the maintenance guy to these big gyms and he's like a world champion powerlifting But he dresses up like he's a guy who just works there. No and he starts telling all this hilarious He's bodybuilders you big giant guys. He says you you do it wrong. You should do it like this They go do it you work here man. Look at me. Look at this muscle and then the little guy just start bench pressing with their weight What's this guy that little guy yeah oh so he's wearing that outfit to kind of hide his physique for abs training, you know? Yes, you can touch me.

What's up, guys? Welcome to my channel. There's this Anatoly on YouTube. I didn't know he had a big YouTube channel. I've just seen his videos. Oh, he does, yeah. So he's a big-time powerlifter. Oh, yeah. And there's nobody stronger in the world than powerlifters.

Just doing those cleans and presses and the full-body exercises. It does a few times. And he's doing it with slides on. just doing those cleans and presses and the full body exercises. Look at the guy. He does it a few times. And he's doing it with slides on. It's fine. Oh, that's hilarious. I'll tell people their form's bad. It's my favorite.

He's doing hammer curls with 100-pound dumbbells. Look at that guy. Look at how the bar is bending. That's insane. Anatoly on YouTube. He's got 16 million views.

On that video, yeah. 1.86 million subscribers. 16 million views on that video. That's nuts. See guys like that. Yeah, there's guys out there. Yeah. And you got to watch out

because you haven't been fighting as well. And then you make a statement against the wrong guy, right? Chris Horodesky. Imagine that guy on the street. Hey, baby face. You want to go? Right. Right.

Horodesky was a perfect example, right? He was such a cute like a cute guy. He went to the International Fight League, remember that organization? I was one of the coaches there. Yeah. And Sean Tompkins, he said, watch him. And he fought a guy from Hansel Gracie's team,

and he go, dude, he's a kid. He says, just watch him. He was like 18 at the time, right? Oh, yeah. And he just annihilates the guy. Became an instant favorite because the baby face, you know. It's like, but just a freaking killer. When you see a guy like that, you wonder.

Like, he was so young when he fought in the UFC. Yeah. I wonder, like, maybe if he got in the amateurs longer, maybe if they set... One of the problems with joining something like the UFC is that you are in with the elite of the elite. And if you keep winning, you can only win so many times before you're going to fight someone who's a motherfucker. And if you're 20 years old, unless you're're Jon Jones who fights Shogun for his you know 20 22 years old yeah he wins the world title becomes the youngest ever UFC champion that's but that's so rare that's one so many guys get ruined yeah because they weren't really quite ready for that

level and unlike boxing where they'll like get you ready for that by exposing you to different styles, exposing you to, you know, this guy's long and lanky, this guy's a body puncher. It's egos and it's managers. Are you listening to your manager? And if he's a good manager for you, he will do it the right way.

Right. But otherwise, if they look at the big money, like all these guys in Japan, they go, I can fight Chakrabart for $100,000. They go, if you lose horribly, you'll never be back. Just know that. Yes. Yes.

If you get a guy to, like imagine if you were training today, training people today and you got a young guy, would you want him to fight? Here's the other problem. If you want him to fight in other organizations, boy, there's some murderers in these other organizations that people don't even know about. These assassins. I'm sure the PFL has them. I know Bellator has them. I know 1FC has them.

There's some stone cold killers over there. Just fighting a lot. That's what I say. And for the pressure in the beginning, don't tell anybody you're going to fight. Do it out of state. So then if you lose, you don't even have to tell people. If you win, you can say, hey, I just fought and I won. I think that's the best way because I think it's very hard for a fighter right now

with all the pressure on the social media. They don't fight for themselves. They fight for the people, and I think that's a big problem to have. You don't need to – don't give a crap about anybody. If you just care about yourself, only in fighting, of course. You don't want to, don't give a crap about anybody. If you just care about yourself, only in fighting, of course. You don't want to be a douche. But if you really master that, and I think that I at that time, that was it. People say, why do you think it works?

I say, because I fight for me. Yeah, but for your family? I go, no. Not for your family? I say, no, because that's too much pressure on me. If I fight for me, and I just only about me, I don't give a crap. And that means I will fight at my best. And once I fight at my best,

chances I'm going to win is very high. And then my family automatically is going to be taken care of, right? Right. So once you start putting, oh, I got to win this because otherwise I can't do this or can't do that, that's a bad one.

Well, it's not a good thing to focus on. The best thing to focus on is your performance. Focus on fighting. Focus on technique. Focus on, yeah. The flow. It's everything. on the best thing to focus on is your performance to focus on fighting focus on technique focus on yeah the flow it's everything where did you develop this mindset did you figure it out on your own did you learn any of it from other people well I absolutely didn't have it in Thai boxing like they always said oh this is a great kickboxer from Holland yeah I knocked a lot of people out

but it wasn't pretty I was just very blessed with genetics. But I was the dojo fighter. So I was really good in the dojo, but I couldn't put that same game under pressure yet. And that changed the first fight in Japan. Really? Yeah, because I think it was my mind. I was a hothead. Like, what is it?

Nine knockouts, eight in the first round, one in the second. That was all knockouts. and that was in Thai boxing. And I realized if I go to Japan on the day of the fight, I found out there was freaking, he was 32 pounds heavier than I was. I didn't know there was no weight classes. And then I found out there was only one round, but it was 30 minutes.

I go, shoot. So I figured that if I explode in the first three minutes and I can't put him away, well, I got 27 more minutes to go. So maybe I got to calm down. That's when the R started coming on my hand for relax. Coincidentally, rustig. That's the Dutch word for it. And I remember my very first fight. Tell people what we're talking about because you talked about it in the other podcast.

But you used to write an R on your hand. For rustig. But it coincidentally starts, the words are the same, relax. what we were talking about because you talked about in the other podcast but you used to write an R on your hand. Rustig. But it coincidentally starts, the words are the same, relax. And I just, because at my corner,

I never had a coach. I trained myself. So if I would get hit, the only thing they shouted, stay calm, stay calm because I'm a hothead. I want to play back right away. And I remember the very first time,

it was, it was the wildest. It's almost like I had two voices. One is the voice who wants to finish it, finish it, go in for the kill, and the other one says, no, take your time, take your time. And there was this thing that happened.

First of all, I started fighting, and I heard everybody speaking, the American people who were sitting there. I knew what they were talking about, which was weird already. Just before the fight, this is like literally standing in front of my opponent. Why would I hear all these people?

And then we started fighting. And the first thing that happens, I kick him in the head. And as soon as I plant my foot, I blast forward. And he was 6'3". So I hit him with a palm strike, knocked him out.

He's on the ground. Now the crazy stuff happened. So I want to run, because it was an eight count. I want to run to my corner because once I'm in the corner, that means I give him less rest, right? That's when they start counting. But something in me told me not to do that. And this is really wild because it was almost like I wasn't in control of that. So I wanted to go to the corner.

And then this person said to me me because I saw his eyes were open He says no it was way more important to to step there Give him a beat look at him and then turn around walk very slowly to your corner because somehow this is what the guys This is what I got that will be way more intimidating for him than for me running to the corner And the blue While I'm walking back, I'm thinking, go faster, go faster, and it's, no, just go calm. And then you see me hanging like this. Wow, but you're your own coach.

It was the wildest, crazy. It was freaking all over the place, and then that one person, whoever it was, said to me, stay calm, stay calm. We're just relaxed. And I'm like, you see me hanging like nothing. It's all an act. If you pull the fight up, it's like, I want to run to the corner. And then I just look at him, give him a beat.

And I walk very slow. But like I'm saying, there was this inner thing going on. It was just bizarre. And that was it. And then from that moment on, every fight, I was like, wow. I even felt better than in training. Because everything would slow down. It was an experience.

It's interesting how sometimes a very high pressure moment will open up like a new level of your ability. That's it. Yeah. The bubble, that's what I call it. I'm in the bubble and it's like, I only allow the things that want to come in, I allow. And for the rest that I don't need, I'm not.

It's the most peaceful feeling. And now I know why. I read the Stolen Focus book from Johan Hari. That's a really good book. And he says, it's because in fighting, my mind would be calm. Because my ADD, I'm all over the place. I have six conversations going on while I'm talking to you. I mean, it goes really, it's very hard to control. But in fighting or in training really hard, sparring, it's completely, that's gone.

I got one focus. Because if I don't focus, I'm going to get knocked out. So fighting to me was always a very comfort thing to do. It was so relaxed because peace finally in my head. And yeah, that's it. And then I used the ADD just for my workouts to go crazy and crazier But then again, you know, it's great to have but once you stop fighting, that's the trap, right? Now we're gonna replace that good feeling and it's probably alcohol or drugs. That's when everybody goes down

Yeah, yeah For so many fighters It's very difficult to find your identity after your fight because for fighting, fighting is your whole thing. It's everything. It's everything. And the only thing also, that's the problem. You don't branch out

or you have other fighters who start already branching out before they're a champion. Oh, I say don't do that. Focus on that first because everything else, once you start losing, it will be gone.

Yes. You need to first, what made you really good? Focus on that. And once that career is over, go to the next career. I'm not saying like when I came to America, I started acting within three months. I started taking acting classes because I knew eventually I was going to need that. So I thought maybe it's better to be prepared for that, but just didn't say it to anybody.

Yeah. for that but just didn't say to anybody yeah the the transition is very hard for almost everybody it could because fighting requires so much of you i mean when especially you're fighting the ufc you're training probably at least twice a day you're involved in recovery you're monitoring your food you you're you're doing all sorts of different things to try to keep your body healthy, massage and saunas and all that jazz, and then it's over. Yep. And then you're 35, 36 years old, and you realize, like, I can't do this anymore. What am I going to do?

Yep. What do I do? And it's one of the things I admire the most about Khabib. He just said, that's it. I'm done. I'm at the top of the game my mother doesn't want me to fight anymore yep good for amazing yeah undefeated you know just says I'm done that's it and he could be the only one in in 50 years from now who did that

smart yeah there's very few guys I mean uh that have ever done that I mean in boxing it's Andre Ward you know retires uh at the peak and you know know when Canelo Alvarez knocked out Kovalev they offered him Canelo Alvarez and it was for quite a bit of money and Andre Ward who's a brilliant man said I think I serve boxing better by retiring by staying retired being a commentator smart man you know he's a guy that fought most of his career with one arm. Do you know the story about Andre Ward? Andre Ward tore his shoulder apart when he was very young, and they didn't do surgery on it.

And so because they didn't do surgery on it, it never got better. And so he didn't get surgery until he was a world champion. And his shoulder was fucked up. Like, he really beat everybody. Carl Frotch, he beat all those guys with one arm cheese just fucking left hooks and jabs and occasionally throw a right hand But his shoulder was so fucked up. I think one of his major One of the major tendons was detached. So like the shoulder was like barely there sort of like TJ Dillashaw and it is his last fight TJ Dillashaw in his last fight.

TJ Dillashaw's had fucked up shoulders forever. For a long time. Forever. Yeah, but you think so his opponents didn't know at all that was the best kept secret? I don't think people knew. You see, that's very important. Because if people would know, you see how they changed the game immediately. But it's wild how that goes, you see, just by knowing that.

But then again, you have other people like freaking Ronda Rouseonda rousey that oh what's she gonna do arm bar me yeah okay good luck stopping it right doing it again yeah doing it they're so good at one thing that you can you know it's gonna happen but you can't stop it like patch and glory throws that left kick there you go yeah yeah yeah there's there's guys that are like that. They just have this one thing. Paul Sass used to fight in the UFC, and he triangled everybody. It was always triangles. He always won by, maybe won a couple of times by leg lock, I think.

Yeah. But his whole thing was triangles. Everybody had to stay away from his triangle. And it's like, how is this guy going to beat everybody with a triangle? He figured it out. Paul Harris. Yeah, Paul Harris. Leg lock, leg lock, leg lock figured it out but yes yeah unfortunately for that

guy though he didn't want to let go yeah yeah it's a crazy guy yeah against jake shields he started hitting him yeah yeah because he's got a lot of power as well oh he's a tank yeah i mean he was like 5 7 185 pounds yeah like and it's crazy when you talk to me so very soft-spoken yeah very quiet i think i always felt like that was when i would interview him i always felt like that was almost fake yeah like the calmness was all coming like this fucking hurricane going on that guy's mind oh yeah well he had a horrible existence a horrible childhood his childhood was very very very hard yeah lives on the street of the jungle right here i mean, he lived a very, very poor existence. And that's why he has that horrible scar across his chest.

I mean, he got cut open and never really got medical attention. Cut open how? Like stabbed or something? I don't know what happened. Write a movie about that guy. But he had that huge scar across his chest. But Paul Harris was uniquely terrifying because you knew that not only was he gonna leg lock you, but he wasn that huge scar across his chest but paul harris was uniquely terrifying

because he you knew that not only was he going to leg lock you but he wasn't going to let it go yeah yeah and he was going to be i mean he he even did it to jake shields he got jake shields in a in a kimura yeah i was there and didn't let it go yeah i started hitting him afterwards yeah yeah it's scary because guys like that can really ruin your career. They can ruin your career. Ruin your career. Your knee, I mean, that's it. That was the guy with, I did the heel look because I saw the heel look a day before on a big screen. Really?

This is how I got my fifth degree black belt. That was an honorary black belt. I'm with John Blooming, who is the highest gaijin next to Masayama in Kyokushin. He's got the 11th degree. And we're standing, We see this big giant. This is a preview for the fights for the next day in Japan. Giant screen on the side of a wall. And we go, hybrid wrestling, pancreas.

We're here. And the first thing we see is me knocking out my first opponent. Oh, dude, it's the preview. So we're looking. And I see this guy sitting in half guard, grabs the foot, and he falls back. And I say to John Blooming, I go, hey, that's a cool move, I got to remember that.

Next day I'm fighting. I'm in that position. So I go, might as well try. So I grabbed it, but I never did it before. So I had no clue. So I grabbed the heel hook, an inverted heel hook, think about that, and I just fell backwards. So I grabbed the heel hook, an inverted heel hook. Think about that. And I just fell backwards. Oh. Yeah.

Broke his shin freaking in half. So first we heard the clack. So I let go. I think his knee is blown out, right? Because that will be it. And the referee's asking and he's feeling his knee and he goes no, I'm good. Well what happened was that his shin was like half snapped because that's what we heard. And then

he kicks me with that leg. Oh, God. Yeah, and I just put my weight in it, and then you see it bending. Has anybody ever come back from that shin snapping? I mean, Tyrone Spong would never really kick box again after that. Anderson was never the same after that. Chris Weidman still hasn't fought in MMA after that. There's reasons that you turn over a kick.

I always say this to people. I'm trying to figure something out here. Like, okay, imagine this is the shin bone. I tell this to people, right? It's straight. It's very hard to break like this. Very easy to break like that. Right? Much easier. This is thin.

This is really thick. That's your shin, if you think about it, because it's like this on your shin. Right. So if you hit it with the flat part, you know, like a Tyron Spong, he's kicking really fast. Jose Aldo kicks really fast. But I always said it before, you got to watch out. Because if you have somebody checking that kick, he's hitting with the flat part of the shin. Sure, it's fast. But it's very dangerous when you connect with something solid

and that's how he broke his shin bone right you gotta hit it on the edge that's it that's why the thighs are doing that because the thighs they're livelihood and if they don't do it they're freaking gonna break their shin and that's it it's interesting because you don't think about that when you think of your shin but if you think of your shin

the part that you really kind of have to turn it over because the part if you if you Have it stare if your your leg is pointed straight Your shin the flat part is on the inside. That's it And if you throw it without turning it over that part will snap Yeah, yeah, and if you have a stance like I have like I'm the open stance my toes are pointing 45 degrees This might this might check. Yeah, and I'm not even moving back. I'm the open stance. My toes are pointing 45 degrees. This might check. Yeah.

And I'm not even moving back. I'm just doing this to keep my body weight in there. Right. It's going to feel to you like you hit the freaking wall. Yes. Super solid block.

And then if you kick wrong, that's it. You lose. The Uriah Hall, Chris Weidman one. Oh, scary. Oh, because Chris Weidman just throws full power first kick.

And Jariah Hall, who's an excellent striker, just turns it over, turns it out, and crack. We have an open stance. Karate Combat, we're in Greece. I'm commentating. Main event. Seven fights, 55 minutes was the show. Everybody got slaughtered. The standing open stance and the

first guy, the guy from France, David Donner, gives him a full inside low kick. And I'm saying he should not do that. In an open stance, because in karate combat you cannot hit the thighs. It's below the knee. So shin on shin. And I go, he shouldn't do that

because this is how you break your shin. I say it, two seconds later he kicks again and snaps him in half. So you've had one in Karate Kombat too. For sure, yeah. Karate Kombat, you can't kick your thigh? Not the thighs, you know. Why not? Because it's the karate rules that they have over there and it keeps the

fight a little bit more separated. But this is the great thing, you know, because they were actually telling me, because you talked about this before in the show, about Karate Kombat not having the the thighs i really love the thighs as well also i love knees to the face well they're allowing it now you just cannot grab okay you know but you can throw it loose to the body and to the face that's uh really nice flying knees flying knees yeah but the great thing about karate Combat is we're not the owners. The fans are the owners.

You know what? We have a token, the karate token, it's cryptocurrency, and you can come. This is another thing. It's up gaming, we call it. You cannot lose. Wait. You cannot lose. You put your tokens on a fighter.

If that particular fighter wins, 90% of those tokens go to you. 10% actually goes to the fighter as well. So they try to get a lot of... Oh, it's really cool. Nice. I like that a lot. Oh, I love it, you know? And if you lose, you don't lose your tokens.

You go, whoa, what's the catch? Okay, Karate Kombat, they decide, we decided that we, you know, for the first three years, we'll take that hit. Really? Yeah, so they want people to go engage,

and we don't say anything. Rafael Agaia is the interim champion right now, and he is the interim champion because fighters, the fans, wanted to fight against Raymond Daniel first before he fought Joshua Quahagen. We listen to the fans, and we do what they want us to do. And that's it. So you, with you saying,

I want to have ties included, you can petition on the app and you can say, listen, I would like to have ties. And if more people support you, they will allow, there's going to be a new rule that kicks to the ties.

Get on it, people. How cool is that, right? That's great. So they listen to the fans, they get 10% of the fighters. And if a lot of people are betting, that could be really good for the fighters as well to get a little bit of extra dough. I really like the idea of a token that's attached to an organization. That makes me excited about crypto tokens because look at this.

Okay. All new Karate Combat app is now live. So this is how it works. Grow your – so it's a dollar sign and then karate token. Stash every time your fighter wins. Climb the, so that's a great idea. It's a great idea also that it goes to the fighters as well, 10%. If the UFC implemented something like that, I think that would be very successful.

I think it's a very, very good idea. I think so too. Probably one of the most unique ideas that I've heard in a long time in implementation of crypto token that I think so too. Probably one of the most unique ideas that I've heard in a long time in implementation of crypto token that I think is fantastic. It's the Wall Street guys who started this organization. And then, you know, in the beginning, they are just study groups to find out who's the most. And they realized that Conor McGregor, like two out of ten people,

would know him instead of ten out of ten. Then they realized Dragon Ball Z, ten out of ten, would know that in that age group. And they go like, wait a minute, if we start combining the two, this is how they literally did that stuff. And then they say, hey, what if we do cryptocurrency and we can engage him on the app?

And boom, we got Dave in there. Dave is super, I don't even want to say that. I'm not going to say what I want to say. But this guy is no no he's like the top docs in cryptocurrency and he came up

with this idea for the karate token that's a great idea that's a great idea I really like that idea because if a fighter if a lot of people are gambling on him

and they're winning money you know like like when Israel Adesanya fought Alex Bejeda I think Drake bet like a million dollars on him something crazy and won wouldn't it be nice wouldn't it be nice Adesanya fought Alex Pejera, I think Drake bet like a million dollars on him. Something crazy.

And won. Wouldn't it be nice? Oh. What about you? I think he was still favorite. Israel was favorite. But meanwhile, Pejera was putting it on him. The calf kicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His ability to throw those calf kicks with no telegraph. He like lifts up the

leg. Boom! And he's not turning the hip over. But that's why. Yes. He's got to watch out with that. It's the same block again. Another thing that I really love from him that he does, he doesn't turn his benches over. I don't do that either.

I don't believe in this whole crap. If it comes naturally, let it go. But if you start focusing on it, a lot of people already do it here. You see, you start telegraphing. And once you start doing this, this is almost the same as an overhand. i let you get used to this and now an overhead is a complete different punch it can set you up way better by doing that this is way more penetrating yes and when you bring the elbow up well that's the thing about bajeda that people don't give him enough credit for he's very clever and very technical because everybody just thinks about the power. His power is so extraordinary. But then you realize he's not hitting hard all the time.

He's not like a guy just like Melvin Manhoof. Yeah, yeah. Everything is hit. Melvin was one of my all-time favorites. Monster. Oh, my God. Freaking Mark Hunt knocking him out. In one punch.

I think also the cup. Did you see that? I think I'm the only one who caught it. I go, sure. So he knocks out Mark Hunt. He flies down, and Mark hits his head on his cup. Is he wearing a tie cup, a steel cup? Yeah.

So I think it's a double whammy. I think already the punch was it, but it's a boom, boom, and then he goes down. I think it's crazy that they still let fighters wear steel cups. I think it's crazy. But I think it's good because you shouldn't really be kicking someone in the nuts anyway. And if you kick someone in the nuts and you're going to shatter your foot because you're going to hit a steel cup.

So they won't allow it? They do allow it. Oh, you have to? I don't understand people not using a steel cup. I don't. Either that or I think the Diamond MMA system is excellent because it's a compression cup and you can take a full blast shot to the nuts.

Did you try? Yeah. I've knocked on it a few times. Do you pack me style? I got a really bad dick injury once from jujitsu from someone passing my guard. That's what happened. I swear to God. He was passing my guard and he tried to slam his knee through to pass my guard.

And I didn't, I wasn't wearing a cup and he hit me right on the dick, not on my balls, on my dick. And it hurt like hell, but I just kept going. And then afterwards I went into the locker room and my jockstrap had blood in it. There's a bunch of blood in my jockstrap.

I was like, Oh Jesus. And I pissed and blood was coming out of my dick. I'm like, okay. So I was like, do I go to the hospital was coming out of my dick I'm like okay so I was like do I go to the hospital or do I treat it

like a broken nose so what I did was I went home and I jerked off because I figured if my dick still works then I'm not worried about it

and the fucking I jerked off into the toilet bowl this is how gross I am and this fucking disgusting thing came out. I go, okay, well, let's see if it works tomorrow. I mean, I want to make sure it's not infected.

And I never wound up doing anything with it. But, you know, people are like, but it's your dick. I'm like, yeah, but if it was really, if I really was worried, you know, I mean, it's an injury. Your nose is always bleeding, right? How many times have you broken your nose? Listen, I did the same thing. I'm standing at the end of the class. I just had a sparring session, and now I'm teaching kids' class.

And I'm standing in front of the mirror pushing my nose straight because it got broke again in training. So this guy walks in who has two sons with me, and he says, hey, if you want, I can fix this. I go, what do you mean? He says, I'm a plastic surgeon. I can put a plastic nose in there. So I have a plastic nose, see? Plastic? Yeah, plastic surgeon. I can put a plastic nose in there. So I have a plastic nose, see? Plastic? Yeah, plastic silicone.

I can't break anymore. Yeah, so he replaced this, so it's not a boxing nose, but I simply can't break anymore. Oh, so you have this piece here, instead of being hard like mine, it's a silicone. It's silicone. Push it down again? That is crazy.

I didn't know they could do that. Me neither. And he did it right away. So that was it for free. I go, I'll take that. Wow. That's nice. So I never had my...

It was out of place though in the UFC when I fought Randleman. It was on the side. Oh, no. That's when they asked me. That was literally because it was funny. I think the day before or the day of the fight, I don't remember that. We were talking about the nose bone into the brain, right? I said, it's a myth.

It's bullshit. But then a friend of mine says to me, if your nose is already broken, then it might happen, right? So this is in my head. So now, boss, your nose is broke. And then you say, I look at Big John. I say, do you believe that nose bone into the brain thing? He wrote that in his book. That's hilarious.

And he goes, no, I saw it. Fuck it, I'll write it. Yeah, I was always, man, if I hit you right in the nose, it'll go right in your brain. No, but it's just people, they always say, oh, I'd like to die in a cage. Not me. I like my life.

I'm very happy living. I don't want to die. If there's a reason, a possibility I might die, nope. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to take the risk. Why would I? Yeah, why would you? So many people in the UFC, I mean, Justin Gaethje just got his nose fixed.

He had a deviated septum. You think? Oh, God. But his nose was so closed off. When he would talk, you would hear it like this. He would talk like that. You could hear that his nose was so closed off. When he would talk, you would hear it like this. Yeah. He would talk like that. You could hear that his nose was always stuffed up.

And there's so many fighters that you hear him talk. And that was me until I was 40. And I finally got a deviated septum operation. They cleaned out my nose. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. It was amazing.

I used to go to yoga class. And the guy was like, you got to breathe out of your nose. I'm like, I can't. He's like, you can't. I go, no, it was amazing. I used to go to yoga class and the guy was like you got to breathe out You know so I'm like I can't he's like you can I go no I can't yeah, my nose is done That's like this and it just like the inside of my nose was like cauliflower ear Yeah, the same kind of shit because if you get it broken enough it the blood pools up and it calcifies Yeah, so the doctor had to clean it out And he showed me all the shit that he cleaned out of my nose after it was over It's like a little cup yeah filled with just fucking horrible shit that was inside my but afterwards. Oh my god freedom

It's like almost like your Tesla Anybody who needs that please listen to me get it done get it done get your deviated septum fix I know six weeks. I know, six weeks, I know. But six weeks later, I was rolling. I was training again. It goes fast. But it was just the difference. My cardio was up by 10%, like immediately. Oh, immediately, yeah, yeah.

Everything becomes better. Calmness, nerves, calm down. I couldn't smell shit. You could fart in my face. I didn't know what was going on. Yeah, and with food, that's a problem. Oh, with food, that's a real problem. Yeah, if you can smell the wine.

I had that one time for like a couple of months. You can smell anything. You can blow smoke in my face, whatever. And then you don't taste the steaks, no nothing, the red wine sauce, nothing, the wine. Oh, this is a very expensive bottle of wine. They don't give it to me. It's a waste. I mean, yeah, just give me the alcohol.

What percentage is that? Double that. Bring it back. Yeah, man. The nose thing is such a problem because noses are so vulnerable. It's such a soft, stupid thing to have that right in the middle of your face where you're getting hit all the time. But it's in training. It's in training.

I never had it in fighting. Well, Randleman. But Randleman's punches, he was hitting me and sliding over my face. So he hit it completely out of the socket. You know, that wasn't good. And another thing that wasn't good is that I lost contact. I have bad eyes, like minus five and a half. Like if I'm sitting in front of you and you look down,

your face is straight, you look down, I can't tell. You know, so I was always wearing contacts in the fight. And then one eye, I lost the contact. And then the other eye was filled up with blood. And then I'm upside down the whole time on my back, swallowing the blood. That's why you see me in the contact, and then the other eye was filled up with blood, and then I'm upside down the whole time on my back, swallowing the blood. That's why you see me in the corner. I try to throw blood up.

I was swallowing my own blood. That was making me nauseous. It's just annoying. Yeah, it's not good. But when you look back on your career, boss, you were, in my opinion, you were the first guy that I ever saw that was like a very high level striker that was entering into mma because a lot of mma striking in the early early early days

was kind of or the alando veet was good but he was very small yeah very small he was like 180 pounds and he's fighting these like he fought remco pardue remember that fight oh yeah of course pounds and he's fighting these like he fought remco pardew remember that fight oh yeah of course remco got him inside control and just bring your elbow elbow elbow freaking those you were the first guy like especially the kosaka fight pull up that fight pull up when boss rootin made his debut because they put a lot of pressure on you too because the poster the poster of the ufc for that event was the greatest martial artist alive. Yeah, and I said, they messed up right there.

I told them specifically the greatest looking. El Guapo. They pulled the word looking off. Yeah, man, I had that poster for the longest time. I don't know what the fuck ever happened with it. This is the next UFC heavyweight championship. It was just your face. The poster of that UFC event was just your face. It was badass.

Yeah. This is boss. Look at this puppy. So for me, this is UFC 18. And this was, Jesus, I don't think I was working for the UFC anymore. I worked for the UFC for UFC 12 to probably like 16 or something like that. 98? Yeah.

I think by 98, I was already done because they were, because I never was there for one of your fights, was I? Nope. I only watched it on television. But I remember watching you fight. I was like, oh, this is exciting. Because this was the first time we saw like a real elite striker. And, again, I have to tell people, you couldn't even fucking spar.

You couldn't wrestle before this fight because you had a fucked up neck. Teosha Kosaka was an elite guy. He trained with Maurice Smith. He was a very, very good guy. But this final, right here, this final barrage, when you won your UFC debut, that to me as an MMA fan and as a martial artist, was very exciting. I had so much because John put it in his book as well. I walked back to the corner after the first round,

and I knew I was getting behind because I couldn't do any takedown defense because the ground was hard for me because of my neck. And while I'm walking up, I see the worried look on the guys' faces, and I go, I said, don't worry about it. I got him. I say, you just shout when I have one minute left, and I'll knock him out. And I turn around, and Big John stands here with a smile on his face. So he turns around, and he's like shaking his head.

He just heard me say. And then we go to the fight. He goes, one minute. And 10 seconds later, I knocked him out. And then Big John gave me his shirt. Oh, wow. He goes, dude, that was the wildest thing. So he gave me the shirt that he was wearing in the cage afterwards.

That's the picture. Look at that. Is this the next UFC heavyweight champion? Yeah, that was cool. Look at that. Make that a little bit bigger so I can read it. What does it say on anything? Look at that.

Boss Rootin. The world's greatest martial artist. Look at that. No pressure. Live on pay-per-view. That. Look at that, man. No pressure. Live on pay-per-view. That was a big deal, man. The weigh-in was in the hotel room.

That was your debut. Oh, the weigh-in was in the hotel room. Yeah, those weigh-ins were just ridiculous. Yeah. And also, the drug testing was ridiculous, too. Oh, shoot. What drug testing? It was nothing.

It was nothing. It was crazy. What a fucking career you had, though, man. I love it. What a fucking career you had though, man. I love it. What a career. You're such an important part of MMA history. Huge, huge part. I'm very happy everybody's coming to me.

They always say the same thing. What if you could have fought now? And I go, I'm completely happy. You know why? Because all the champs you're going to get now, that's good. We're in the pioneer section. That means there can only be a certain group. It can never get bigger. We were the guys who started it i said that will be forever there 5 000 years from

now we started yes that's cool i enjoy that yes yeah i mean you you were a very very important part of mma history again because you were the first like really elite striker in the UFC. You saw guys who were good strikers, who were solid guys, but you were a cut above. And it was a very exciting time. And it was also the time where you're sorting all this out. You have to realize, if you go back to UFC 18, people were still sorting out what's effective, what's not effective. Oh, yeah.

Mark Coleman came along, all sudden everybody wanted to be 265 pounds because he was taking everybody down smash butts were legal yes yeah Jesus headbutts no no gloves when did when Mark Coleman fought Dan Severin the first UFC in UFC 12. No gloves. No gloves. Yeah. You know, they just taped up the base of the hand to keep your hand together if it broke.

Dude, the story that I heard, because I talked to Ken, of course, because first time when I was fighting in Japan, it was September, and Ken was talking to me that he was going to do this crazy thing. Ken Shamrock. Ken Shamrock.

I go, dude dude because it was in November and this was in September and he went did this thing and then afterwards I talked to him he said it was hilarious there was a moment in time that everybody was sitting backstage and they were watching the fights and everybody was expecting that

any moment now the promoter could come in and would say okay you're going to lose you're going to win you know. Right. Because they still thought it could be fixed because otherwise it's too crazy. And then they saw Shia Oskar kicking the teeth out from the sumo guy. Yes. And they go like, it's real. You know, that was a reality check right there in the dressing room. You saw everybody's demeanor changed at the moment that happened.

And I think one of the most important things was that Hoist won. Because you got this guy who didn't look the same. I mean, Ken Shamrock was fucking jacked. He was just jacked. He looked like a UFC champion. He looked like what everyone was terrified of. And Hoist Gracie tapped him. And he was like 175 pounds and skinny and wearing a gi.

And everybody's like, what is going on? How is this possible? Yeah. I was going through all my magazines because I wanted to clean out. I take out of the magazines, make pictures of it. Because otherwise you have way too many magazines. Like these Japanese badass magazines where you have a fight. You have like eight pages of pictures.

And they have the best pictures. And one of the magazines was hoist on the cover you know and he's lifting his arm and the look in his eyes i actually made a picture and i sent it to him i go where is this guy you know because freaking violence yeah you know it's very scary he just won no smile he's like freaking That was badass, man. And didn't have a lot of experience doing that. Yeah. It wasn't like he had had a lot of MMA fights. Yeah.

Or a lot of no rules fights. His brother Hickson did. Yeah. Hickson fought a bunch of them. But Jesus Christ. Yeah. That changed martial arts forever. Everybody thought.

1993 changed the fucking world. Yeah. It changed the fucking world. Yeah. We all thought the kickers and the bunches. 30 years ago, boss. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I. We all thought the kickers were the bunches. 30 years ago, boss. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

I know. I remember the first time I watched it, it was like, there was two big revelations for me in my martial arts. One was going from taekwondo to kickboxing

and realizing how easy it was for me to get punched in the face. Yeah. I was like, oh my God. Because I thought that I was just going to

kick people in the face and knock them unconscious. I was like, these guys aren't even that good at kicking. Yeah. you know because I came from this elite Taekwondo Oh, yeah, and then I'm getting this fucking battered in training was like oh god made me reassess and then leg kicks Yeah, the leg kick one was like oh fuck and then the next one was jujitsu My Taekwondo teacher had that too. I came back from Thai boxing and he said also, he said, leg kicks, eh, it's not effective. Say you want to spar.

And then when I tied it together, he says, just check it. I go, you won't because I keep you busy. And then I start nailing him with it and he goes, we're gonna add low kicks. Yeah, that's good. For me it was 1988, my friend Dana Rosenblatt, his buddy from Richie V vasipoli's karate studio

was this guy was very adventurous guy who i forget his name but he went over to thailand and he trained in thailand for quite a long time and he came back all cut up because he had a bunch of thai fights and he got cut with elbows and this guy was living in thailand and training in thailand in 1988 and i was like, like what is going on? And that's when I first started incorporating that and started learning low kicks. But I was like, oh, my God, I'm so vulnerable. Like you didn't realize how vulnerable your legs were. And especially because you never did it.

So it's all tender. Right. It's the ultimate Charlie horse. I had a terrible stance for it, too, because I stood very wide. You know, I was like very wide like this. And boom. Oh, no. And that was before calf kicks, which is crazy.

Like, you know, I talked to Michael Bisping and he's like, I fought my entire career, won the world title. He won the world title, never got calf kicked. Yeah. Which is so interesting. It's the most interesting thing. Yeah. But it's the same. You know, we still don't see clotheslines.

Those are punches that you can defend. Sure. If I give you a clothesline, it will loop around, it will still hit the back of your head, the legal part, you know, you just stay outside of the Mohawk. Where are they? Right. You know, we saw with Junior Dos Santos and McCain when they were fighting,

he dropped him, and I go, ah, here we go. And then the next fight in the rematch, it went the other way around. Oh, finally people got it. And then it disappeared again. I go, dude, here we go. And then the next fight in the rematch, it went the other way around. Oh, finally people got it. And then it disappeared again. I go, dude, it is such an effective. If I get in a street fight right now, I clothesline the guy. That's the first thing I'm going to try it out. Just full stiff arm.

You have no clue. If I do this on the back, I can give you a head kick full, and I give you a clothesline. Clothesline beats the head kick. Really? If I hit the back, you'll see the whole back fold around my arm. Really? It's bizarre.

It's really bizarre. You can be in full defense. It'll go around, poof, hits the back of your head. How come no one's doing that? No clue. Completely illegal. Maybe that's the next thing. Maybe they're going to learn it from this.

I hope so. Because I never think of that, but there is a lot of power in that. But the one thing, don't stretch your arm. Because if you do, if he hyperextends, you know, so it's better to miss him. So you want to have a slight bend. Slight bend, and I hit with this part. Dude, if you see me doing this on a bag, it's a very scary thing. I want to see.

We got a bag. Yeah, well, we'll do it. Okay. Yeah. I'll film it. I'll film it. So show everybody afterwards. But yeah, whatever the tech...

You know, here's another one that really never made it into the UFC, but it has been in other organizations, is Axe Kicks. Oh. There's this one gentleman, I forget his name. Andy Hoog. Oh, of course. Andy Hoog. Of course, Andy Hoog.

I mean, Andy Hoog was the master at it. He was... Oh, my God. Those K-1 days. Oh, to this day. Oh, so good. Yeah, we just saw it. How the fuck?

Explain this. How does pride go from 90,000 seats, Saitama Super Arena, to there's nothing like that over there in Japan now? Like, how did it just go away? Once they realized that the mafia was associated with it. Yeah, isn't that crazy? Mike Bonanno. Oh, the Mafia was associated with it. Yeah That's oh, yeah, it's a great guy he killed himself did Mike Bernardo do yeah He was I liked him a lot. Oh look at that. Yeah, he's

And you look at this Oh Miracle Crow cop. Yeah, don't yeah Andy.og was the master of the axe kick. It's just so flexible. There's one guy who fights in the UFC. Excuse me, fights in MMA. I've messaged him back and forth. I apologize to him. I just get too many messages. But there was a video of him KOing somebody with an axe kick. I'm like, oh, well, there you go.

He was like this elite Taekwondo guy and then started training in MMA and just has this crazy axe kick And you just don't expect it. Yeah, you know nobody does especially if you're fighting someone and they're standing southpaw and They have that right shoulder forward and he brings it around the outside. So you see it until it's too late Yeah, so you're standing like this. You don't see it until it's all Jesus Christ Yeah, and it slams this with the heel it anyway, oh, Jesus Christ. And then boom! Yeah. And then it slams down. It's with the heel. Anyway, collarbones.

Oh, yeah. I mean, everything is going to snap. But this dude is really good at the face. See if you can find it. Let me see. Yeah, this is the kid. Watch this. Watch this.

Boom! Whoa! Yeah. What is his name? What is this guy's name? There it is. Alfie Davis. Alfie Davis. That's freaking. Yeah. What is his name? What is this guy's name? There it is. Alfie Davis. Alfie Davis.

That's freaking. Yeah. So Alfie Davis, this gentleman has a background in Taekwondo, clearly. If you watch, back it up a little bit so you can see a little bit more of it. We'll show some more of his fights, too, because he does this a lot. I don't know where he's at right now, but he had that sort of Taekwondo style. Look at this. Step boom. You know you just don't anticipate it. You think he's gonna kick you in the body So you're doing this and all sudden his foot is over his head. Yeah

See if there's more videos of him incredible Is there more of those? It's the same one, yeah. So there's other fights of his. So he fights, does he still fight in Bellator? Says that's seven months ago.

Anyway. So watching these guys that have these extraordinary kicking skills, as long as they learn the other stuff. But the thing is about learning the other stuff. It's everything. It's everything. You know, with me, last loss by Ken, knee-barred me, and that was it. I go like,

okay, I'm either going to learn this freaking game, or I'm going to stop. It's stupid, you know? I might win the title, but then if somebody submits you, I'm losing it again. It makes no sense. It's my job. And I found one training partner, and we just started rolling two or three times a day. I won my next eight fights by submission after my last loss.

They were like, what the heck is going on? I flipped it around. One with submission control, the other one all finishes, seven. Do you think that's what you call ADHD or obsessive, whatever it is? 100%. Yeah, I focus on that. Like with me, if I want something I want it now if I can't have it now

it will be happening tomorrow I'll do everything in my power to master whatever I need to master in the shortest amount of time and I will sacrifice everything for it

that was always my thing you know like my stamina you know it was I was a severe asthma patient I was scared to inhale it with me

so I didn't want to get tired so it was my weakness. And then I realized, wait a minute, why do I brainwash myself? And I started doing it. I started getting tired and it was great. I go, no, I love this!

I love this! I want to get more tired! And I kept on hitting. And then I slowed it. And I'm telling you, like within three, four weeks, now I certainly wanted it. And that changed my whole that's when i started really training bringing training to the next level then i really oh if i can do it with that i should be able to do this with everything you know that's when i start toughening up and you know all these things shin calcification all that stuff i never

focused on that but then i go hey why not you know if everything is strong and it feels better it's for your opponent it's going to feel much stronger so let's start working on that but then I go hey why not you know if everything is strong and it feels better it's for your opponent it's going to feel much stronger so let's start working on that and then that was it what did you do for shin calcification

just kicking a bag but we had a I have to say this we had a bag with regular sand in it so then the lower you kick it so what I would do

I would put a measuring tape around it so I knew the exact place, the spot, and I would kick that for like the next 10 days only there. And then only when I felt it's okay, I would do it one line below it,

like literally this, and I would start kicking that. First of all, great for my aiming, you know? And second of all, you know, every time it gets harder, the lower I kick, it gets harder. By the way, aiming for people, it's so important, you know? And then you all, you know, every time it gets harder, the lower I kick, it gets harder. By the way, aiming for people, it's so important,

you know? And you go like, oh, dude, it's not normal. You see a lot of guys just hit the head, just hit the body.

They don't really aim for their shots. Like, if I'm, if I'm Thai boxing you and you're wearing shorts, oh, that's shorts,

whatever logo is on there, I'll pick out one more, one little piece on it, spot on it, and I will deliver my little piece on it, spot on it, and I will deliver my low kick, every low kick on the same spot. Once you start training yourself like that,

you know you automatically start doing it. And think about this. If you have the power to knock somebody out with three low kicks, but you spread them out over three spaces, now you're going to need nine low kicks in order to do it. So you see,

so this is how, if you kick me here in the gut, you can kick me, but you can't punch me here in the gut, you can kick me, but you can't punch me here in the solar plexus. Okay, so why do I start hitting the solar plexus, the jaw, the spleen, the liver, you know, really aiming for your shots, and that automatically

puts you also better in the zone. Because my first fights, I was hitting a silhouette. I just hit whatever I could hit. Didn't really matter where i would connect i just tried to finish the job now i'm completely different now it's like really waiting oh he's breathing in oh let's hit him at the moment he's breathing in you know like that's my second fight how i want that i use that a lot on your right kicks if you throw a right kick and

then with my stance well you're exhaling when you kick you're inhaling when you pull back Oh, I'm going to use that against you I'm going to block the kick And then while you're recoiling it I go straight to the body That's straight This power You go down You can do 5,000 sit-ups a day

You breathe in and I connect That's it You're going to go down You see, and I really like those moments I do this with legs You know, I push you I push and simultaneously kick. So I make you weightless, the muscle is relaxed,

and then I kick you with the shin. Sure, I cannot generate a lot of power, but you don't need a lot of power. It works really well. Like my last fight, actually, and that was not me time. That was pure luck. But he stepped at the moment his foot was up, I kicked him. And I remember my shin.

I literally had click. My shin was touching his thigh bone. I felt just a skin click. First thing I thought, I won. And I saw him limp, and I kicked him one more time. Fight was over. But that was the moment that his muscle was completely relaxed. But like I said, that was not me timing it.

That was just luck. Are you going to open up a gym out here? No, I don't think so. I want to go do some seminars and doing that kind of stuff. I still own the gym in Thousand Oaks. It's going really well. We got these new great wrestling coaches now also. They're going to start like in two weeks, I believe.

So we added wrestling now to it. I mean, we got these crazy fitness challenges. What we do is a man challenge and a woman challenge. So the woman challenge, it's for six weeks. I'm going to pull up a picture. You're not going to believe this. So this is a woman who won the competition. You get a free membership for a year if you win the competition.

This is six weeks. She gained actually 2.1 pounds. really whoa six weeks damn and all the other 18 ladies in the class they know this is 100 real because they wanted to be the number one so this is all this is crazy right that's incredible that's hard work that's hard work and that's and then people don't know they this is the worst part don't you hate it when people see you? I was always like, oh, steroids. If you look good, and then these overweight people who don't take care of their health, first thing they say is, you're using steroids. I say, wait a minute.

So you're using anti-steroids then. What do you mean? I say, you look like shit. I'm firing right back when they do it. I can't stand it. No, live with me for two months. Well, you had phenomenal genetics, though. Yeah, yeah.

Don't you have that weird genetic variant that allows you to keep extra muscle? Isn't there something? Don't you have something weird, though? I had an insanely high testosterone level when I was 19. I think I toned it down to 2,400. No, I thought it was 2,800. What? Yeah, they said they never measured anything like it.

My mother was there with me. And they go like, is he a handful? And she goes, you have no idea. Because she said, this is really crazy high level. Yeah, and I burn like a maniac. So I'm 3% of the population. We did this swap, you know, for something. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Yeah, and it's like, so I can eat six large pizzas a day. I'm the same weight now population. We did this swap for something. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. I can eat six large pizzas a day. I'm the same weight now as when I started fighting. I never lose weight or gain weight. What do you do for exercise nowadays? I just work out 40 minutes. This morning, I did a treadmill. I do the incline all the way up.

We have a higher one. It goes like 25%. It's pretty gnarly. Yeah, I've got a 30% one. It's awesome. Oh, I love it. I need one like that you know so it's pretty gnarly yeah i've got a 30 one it's oh i love it yeah i need one like that oh because my knees i can run but i can walk so then i just go up and i just go 40 minutes straight what i do is also i do uh 10 minutes backwards and then i do another 10 minutes forward and then five minutes backwards walking backwards is very important to balance everything out how are your knees are still fucked up? Yeah. There's no scarlet on the kneecaps.

So that sounds like the easiest problem is the worst problem to have in the knee. Because they can't fix it. Oh. You know, it's not like they can't take the kneecap out and replace it. It's not working like that. But, you know, I do cable punch routines. Really good for your core. Really good for power.

I do the reverse punches. Everything I do is superset. Everything I do is supersets. So I do 10 exercises. I do 20 repetitions minimum, all four sets, 32 minutes. People go, there's no way. Yeah, but I don't take a rest. That's why I like to do supersets. I'm resting.

This muscle group is resting while I'm training this one. So you're training strength, but you're also training conditioning. Always, because that's in my head now. What if something happens on the street. It's always good to have a little bit of gas in the tank. So that's what I do. And I just watch my food. But like I crazy, I eat two, two and a half pounds of sweet potatoes. That's my breakfast.

That's just that. Two and a half pounds of sweet potatoes? Yeah. And then just that. No water, no salt, nothing. Just that. No water, no salt, nothing on it, just that. Then I have these shakes, these crazy carnivore shakes that I have. They're like 125 carbs a shake.

I doze a couple a day, drink them in between because they just keep burning. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. But how old are you now? 58. 58 and your body's still burning like that that's wild I grow like you see pictures of me

like last week I started on Saturday because normally I always throw these challenges out people say with steroids I started TRT on Saturday last week because they realized that my free testosterone was lower

and it was affecting me mentally it was like something wrong with me and I told Brigham I go like dude something is wrong. I'm too emotional. Something is off. You know, this is for a while already.

And I, but I have pictures. He says, dude, you look freaking awesome. He says, yeah, and I don't use anything, you know? So I was always very proud of that. And to people who said it, I say, take the bet. Yeah. I'll go six months. Every day you can test me.

Every single day you might test me. Yeah. There are people out there that are just different they're just different yeah you know so now kind of because i was very proud of that but now i had to for my mind and i have to say though i've i start like a weekend i worked out in uh in in in miami uh on a treadmill no i did a shadow boxing routine my audio workout and uh after i just did some a little bit TRT, it's like only 2.5, it's like 50 milligrams. And then I said, okay.

I texted them. I go, I'm feeling good now. Mentally, I feel different. So it is doing something to your mental state as well. I had no clue. For sure. That's a big thing with guys that have pituitary gland injuries when they get depression. A lot of it is your body's not producing testosterone anymore.

You see? So I'm very happy I started with that. Everything also, I had this wound of my, that I cut myself with a knife, like really weird. It opened up in my pocket while I was pulling my pants up. It's something stupid, but it was a cut. It's been there for two years. Really?

I go, my wife every time goes, like you, but now when I started last week, it's almost gone now. So it helps with that as well. Although my white blood cells were good. Everything was good. It was just my free testosterone was a little low.

Well, it's good to get everything checked. That's ways to build. Well, it's fantastic for that. Yeah. It's great to get everything checked. And some great people.

Ron White walked in. Yeah. Ron White's the man. Yeah. No, Brigh fantastic for that. Yeah. It's great to get everything checked. And some great people. Ron White walked in. Yeah, Ron White's the man. Yeah. No, Brigham is awesome. I love Brigham. And anybody that's listening, listen to the podcast that I did with Brigham Bueller. It's an amazing podcast where he breaks down all the problems in the medical system and all the problems with the insurance system. in the medical system and all the problems with the insurance system and that there's so many different things that can benefit you

that are fantastic for your health that are not covered by your insurance. You know what it is? I know this is going to sound like a lead way, but breathing. Yes. What people don't have any idea about is that 95% of us are breathing wrong, incorrect. Google it. Because I was thinking I was breathing correct.

And if you stand in front of the mirror, you take a deep breath, you're raising your shoulders, you are breathing wrong. That's it. Four to six of these shoulder-raising breaths is the same as one belly breath. Take the lowest number, four. So imagine you come out of a hard-fought round

and you got one minute to recoup instead of 40 times raising your shoulders. You can do the same amount of air by 10 times. Not only that, if you're raising your shoulders, your necks, your traps, your neck muscles, everything needs oxygen, right? Yeah. You're lifting and lifting. That's why fighters, people who are overweight, their breathing is much better than people who are lengthy. Because they don't want to carry that weight upwards all the time with breathing,

so they automatically start breathing diaphragmatically. But that completely changed my life. Really? Diaphragm breathing. Diaphragm breathing and then strengthening those inspiratory muscle training. It's not a gimmick. Just go on a published medical website, journal. You push in IMT,

and you will have 1,200 reports there about what it does. Every endurance athlete in the Olympics, guess what they're doing? It's inspiratory muscle training. Well, you also have that breath trainer that you developed. That's it, yeah.

That's a device, so just tell people about that. So, okay, so I'm breaking this thing. What I want to say first is, so you breathe wrong. Don't say, I woke up, I've been breathing since I was a baby. I know how to breathe. You don't. That's good until you're about five and a half years of age.

And that's when we start breathing wrong. And the reason is because that's the moment we start going to school. And that's when we start wearing belts and sitting all day long in the classroom. And that's when you go to the doctor. And the doctor puts a stethoscope on your chest. They take a deep breath. Oh, this is where my lungs are. You know, that's what you think, but it's not.

The lungs are lower part here. Let me stop this. Then, of course, boys, girls, oh, you start to get interested in the different sex. And then suddenly you realize, wait a minute, if I keep breathing through my belly, they think I'm fat. This is literally the reason that people start breathing the wrong.

You know we're the only animal, the only mammal that breathes wrong? Really? Only the humans. Everybody. Look at a baby. You see the belly breathe? Perfect. Okay.

So know this right now. You're breathing wrong. 95% of you are. And if the 5% probably have breathing classes. You and bow hunting. You think chest breathing is good? Or you think diaphragmatic breathing. Every

sniper, go to a Tim Kennedy. I guarantee you he's freaking horizontal breathing. Diaphragmatic breathing. So that's number one. Then I go into the next attack. Nose breathing. Because everybody says, I breathe through my nose. Yeah, okay. What if I smash your nose in? What about that?

What if you have a cold you have to fight? You can't breathe through your mouth? Come on, don't be stupid. Yeah, but this thing, you know, it works through the mouth. You're only using it for about five minutes a day. And it will strengthen your breathing muscles, which, by the way, you have 11 pounds of breathing muscles. That's a lot.

And with breathing muscles, I say the mover for inhaling is your diaphragm and your intercostals, which say the mover for inhaling is your diaphragm. And your intercostals, which are the muscles in between your ribs, the external intercostals are for inhaling. Expands your chest. I'm going to go in a little bit how that works. Because that's why I brought this weird thing here with me. What do you got?

This weird, it's a steamer, a vegetable steamer. But I'll transform it into a diaphragm in a little bit. Why did you bring a vegetable steamer? Well, I'm going to show you. So now let's take another part. How does your endurance increase? What do you think is the reason? You train really hard, I know, but what happens when you train really hard?

Your recovery gets better. Your body gets accustomed to it and conditioned. That's it. You train the muscle over and over again, it becomes more efficient. Right. And the word efficient already says it, uses less oxygen, therefore your stamina increases. Boom. Okay, good. Let's go to the next one. Metaborflex. That's a nice word for gassing, right? So just gassing. This is what happens when you're gassing. Let's say you're running a hill, a very steep hill, 45 degree angle. It's a hard one, hard one, hard one. And suddenly it feels like you hit the wall. What happens at that moment is that your body starts redirecting

oxygenated blood and it takes it away from your legs because it sends it to your number one priority in the body, which are your breathing muscles. Because if your breathing muscles don't work, you die. If you can't expand your chest, you die. Okay. So endurance works. Muscle training over and over again gets more endurance. Okay. But my freaking intercostals and my diaphragm, they steal the blood.

Blood stealing is literally a medical term. Away from my limbs as soon as I'm getting tired. Okay. What if I update those 11 pounds of breathing muscles? What if I give them more endurance over and over again so they become more efficient? Now you delay your gassing, but that's normally, let's say, happens here, happens there.

That's why every single endurance athlete in the Olympics will actually use inspiratory muscle training. It blows my mind that you have coaches here. Oh, he's the coach of the year, coach of the year, and they don't spend time on breathing? You're an idiot, a complete idiot. You remember I was on your show and I said 15% to 20% you get more? Well, I lied about that.

That's for 95% of the people, and the difference is more than that. Whoa, that's a big statement. Four to six of these breaths is the same as one. It's a big thing. I can let you hear a message from Lyoto Muchida, who was doing it for three months, got COVID, then started training with his fighters. He says, dude, I outworked everybody.

My breathing was so in control, he's freaking out. That's how crazy it is. You see, so now, and now you have to understand how breathing works, because we all believe that our lungs do the work. Lungs are two bags. You can't have strong lungs. There's no muscle in your lung. If you cannot expand your chest, you die. So when you expand your chest, you create a vacuum between your body and your lungs and that vacuum opens up your lungs. So for people who go like, oh, what is a vacuum?

Just imagine your lungs being glued to the inside of your body. And if you expand your chest, that's how you pull the air in. So if you think about this, your chest doesn't expand because you put air in it. Your chest expands. That's how you pull the air in. So that's a little weird thing to think about. But just focus on that. Now, the chest expansion, I already said, is done by your diaphragm and your intercostals. Now, Dr. Beliza Vrenic, she's actually a person,

a world-renowned breathing expert. Joey Diaz set me up with her. And Joey said, you should meet her. So I went to visit her on Fifth Avenue in New York in her office. This is five, six years ago.

First thing she does is measuring my chest expansion, right? So she, and I know why she's doing that because the more I can expand, the more air I can pull in my lungs. So she says, okay, exhale, inhale,

and she goes, she says, no, no, it's not possible. Do it again. And I do it again and she goes, wait, and she walks out,

comes back with another doctor. I go, what's going on? She says, if I don't bring him, he's not going to believe it. I go, what do you mean? I said, well, normally when somebody break our record

by chest expansion, it's like an eighth of an inch maybe half you almost went two inches more than everybody else let me see your chest expand give me a breathe it's these low parts here they're completely expand yeah but you see what you're doing you see what you were doing you're raising shoulders only focus on this you're still raising your shoulders. This thing is going to freak you out, man. You're going to get...

So I just keep my shoulders down? Grab the bottom of your chair. Grab the bottom of your chair. And then just... That's breathing with time. That's breathing. Every person wants the stamina of who? Tony Ferguson, Michael Chandler.

My God, what do they do? Look at them breathe. 80% of the UFC fighters breathe incorrect. Those guys, you will not see any movement. They breathe perfect, and that's why they have the advantage. So now watch this, right? So this is the diaphragm is a thin dome-shaped muscle tendon mixture.

And this, it separates the chest cavity from the abdominal cavity, right? This side here is attached to the lower part of your ribcage. That's where it's attached to. And what, this is what the diaphragm does. It actually massages your intestines and it massages your heart as well.

It lines your spine. You should read the reviews with people with back problems. Back problems are gone. This is all published medical journals, all backup. This is what the diaphragm does. It just expands. It's exactly, because from that angle, this is what it does. It drops down, it massages everything, it goes back, drops down. But that drop down is an expansion. This happens in the center of your body that together with your intercostals will open up your chest. That exhaling is done by your obliques, your core, and your internal intercostal muscles. Those are for the exhale.

Also a very important muscle to train. But if you train both at the same time, not good. Both separately, very good. So this one is an inspiratory muscle trainer. I brought two for you so you can choose if you want a blue or a green one. Listen, don't let the look fool you.

It's a simple, stupid this is it, yes, weight training for your breathing muscles. You can throw it against the wall, you can step on it, you can do anything. You buy one, you never have to buy another one. It comes with 16 different settings. It's very basic. Why does it look like this?

Because I had the idea when I was 14. You think a 14-year-old kid came up with electronics? No. This was it. This was actually also the reason I could bypass all the patterns, and I have the pattern for this. So what it does is just controls the air intake. So if you inhale, this side has a flap that will close off, which will force you to inhale to this side.

This one comes with 16 different settings. Now, in the beginning, my asthma was cured within three weeks. Imagine, I was walking around with an inhaler everywhere I went. Every workout session, inhaler before. Every fight, inhaler before. Three weeks with this freaking prototype, gone. Whoa, now I'm up to something. Said it to my friend in Holland who has asthma.

Eight days later, he calls me. Dude, I want to sell him in Europe. He's selling him in Europe right now. Asthma is gone. I go, dude, we're up to something here. Now I have a commercial. If your asthma is not 70% or 80% gone or more in one month, I'll give you money back.

But I'm going to need to see you doing the freaking four minutes a day, though. Because we all go, four minutes a day? I can do this. No, you can't. We're a whole bunch of pussies. And pussies, I say, pussie, I made an abbreviation for pusillanimous. Lack of courage or determination or cowardly. That's what we are.

And I say we, because we all are certain things. We just give up really fast. Oh, we got, oh, I want an extra drink. Yeah, you're a pussy. You see? Pussy anonymous. This one for you, since you are an athlete already, I'll put this one number. I'll put you number four.

So what you're doing is you put it in your mouth. That's what he said. And you exhale. So officially, just try it now if we're sitting straight. Okay. And keep your shoulders low. And exhale completely. And then inhale by pressing your belly forward.

Explosive. And then explosive inhale. Inhale. Explosive inhale. I see your chest coming a little. Keep it down. There we go. That's core.

Now we're doing it. This is just sitting straight. But if you do this with an exercise, there's two exercises. I feel it. I feel it. I feel like a workout of these muscles. That's right. I'm feeling these muscles in a different way

than I feel doing anything else. You know, you want to freak out even more? I want you to just lean over a little bit. Lean on your legs. Just completely relax. Oh, you can do this actually. Here. So yeah, just lean. Like this? Yeah, but lean over. Okay. And now put it in your mouth. And then when you want to inhale, focus on your back muscle, the lower part of your back muscle to expand. Do that. Because we have breathing muscles 360 degrees circumferential those muscles i never worked out

once i started adding this exercise to it my stamina got insane you go also i feel the muscles on my back oh yeah i feel it you don't want to do 30 repetitions like this because tomorrow felt like you did a very hard back workout that you're going to walk around. I'm in. Listen, boss, I'm going to use this every day. I'm going to check in with you in a month. I'm going to use this. I will 100% do this. Because you are the guy who actually does it. Okay, one thing that I want to say for

the people, right? If you use it for endurance and you do it before endurance workout, think about this. You're tiring your breathing muscles. I got an idea. How about I do that in the cold plunge? I'm going to kill two birds with one stone. Oh, look, Jesse, that's what I always do too. Yeah.

So I'll change my cold plunge from three minutes to four minutes, and I'll just do that the entire time I'm in the cold plunge. All right. Because that tightens you up. That tightens up your... Oh, you're going to... You watch what's going to happen. Exciting.

Look at that. Dude, it will change you. I'll guarantee you. But I just want to know for the people, if you buy for endurance and you do it before endurance, it will backfire. It's like you have to move, but you do a biceps workout. It's not really going to help you. You've got to build up. You've got to build up.

So in the beginning, what I say to these people, do it in the evening so your braiding muscles can rest during the night. And then the next day you're going but the difference you're going to notice you watch I don't have to say anything we have the highest ratings

on Amazon I mean we beat every other product out there I'm 100% going to do this and I'm 100% going to check in with you I'm going to let you know yeah perfect

I'm excited me too thank you yeah no thank you boss this is a good fucking time tell people how they can

get that oh o2trainer.com it's on Amazon it's everywhere read the reviews guys Amazon has reviews that you cannot mess Thank you. Boss, this is a good fucking time. Tell people how they can get that. O2trainer.com. It's on Amazon. It's everywhere. Read the reviews, guys. Amazon have reviews that you cannot miss.

Rod, if you're the number one choice. I feel it right there just doing that. Immediately. I feel it. And I felt it on my back, too, when you made me lean forward. Yeah. I really do feel it. And plus, it will align your spine.

You know, diaphragmatic breathing is good for it. I have a singing school from Australia that's buying it. You know, because projecting and acting, it's all breathing, all diaphragm. You watch. And by the way, don't believe products that say that we can give you bigger lungs. This is another last thing I want to say. If you have an athletic workout, stretch your freaking chest muscles. This is important.

You lose from the age of 28, you lose about 30 milliliters a year, which means 300 milliliters in 10 years. This is important. You lose, from the age of 28, you lose about 30 milliliters a year, which means 300 milliliters in 10 years. I'm 58. That means, if I would never do any chest stretches,

I would have lost almost a liter from the only six liters I have. Women have four liters. Men have six liters. One and a half gallon, one gallon.

See, talk about an advantage with the transition. Never mind. But they just have 30% bigger gallon, one gallon. See, talk about an advantage with the transition. Never mind. They just have 30% bigger lungs. Whatever. But just make sure that you know that. If you want to do stamina,

just do it after the stamina. It goes out of us. Brother, I'll check in with you. Thank you very much. Boss Root, you're the fucking man. Always appreciate you. Welcome to Texas. My man. I'm here. Thank you. All right. Thank you.

Bye, everybody.