The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #143 with Sean Strickland

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

Joe is joined by Sean Strickland, a professional mixed martial artist competing in the middleweight division of the Ultimate Fighting Championship.  www.ufc.com/athlete/sean-strickland

the Joe Rogan experience Joe Rogan podcast by night all day what's up Sean Strickland what's happening we made it happen I'm finally pseudo famous enough to be on the Rogan podcast you're pretty famous after Saturday night hey how's your eye oh man the guy was still pretty, the guy was trying to- It's still pretty red. The guy was trying to fucking salute his fuhrer, bro.

Fucking straight to the eye. He's Russian. You can't say that. He only moved to Germany when he was 15. Well, fuck, I don't know, man. Fucking life's weird, dude. Is he Muslim? We all know how that goes.

Oh, fuck. I'm about to get canceled. He's just joking. I'm just joking. Can't we just joke around, folks? Isn't this America? That was a great fight. It was a really, really good fight.

And it was really interesting, too, because that guy is so used to blowing people out in the first round. He came out so hard in that first round. And it was very interesting. You have a very interesting style there's no one like you stand straight up even the way you hold your hands is different than everybody else it's more of like boxing i like to box you know yeah i know it's funny like when he was throwing kicks he was kind of like giggling and laughing a couple times when he hit me in the team once or twice knocked the wind out of me in my mind i'm like you fucking pussy you like you've

ever been in a 25 minute fight before sir like we'll see how this we'll see how this adds up yeah that's the thing right it's like people need to understand that that like that if you're sprinting in the beginning you can't do that for very long well he broke quick i mean he like three minutes in i was shocked how fast he broke and i'll tell you when i knew he broke he took me down, there was a moment where he was on my back. I'm like, fuck, this kind of sucks. I was thinking, like, there's a moment. I'm like, oh, this kind of sucks. Well, we know what to do.

Get to a hip. Get your way up. Break the hands. But whenever I broke his grip and he let go, it was, like, soft. It was, like, delicate. Like, he broke like his, like, delicate. And I think I hit him. At that moment, I was like, what the fuck, dude?

So he's saving energy. He realized it was falling. No, he quit. It wasn't that he was saving. He just broke. So when you're fighting, you guys, wrestling's fucking hard. Wrestling's fucking difficult. And you have to make the juice worth the squeeze.

So if you take me down and you're on my back, you got to hold that position, loose grip for as long as you can. Maybe knee me in the back of the thigh, hit me in the head. If you could hold me there for 30 seconds and do light damage, that's 30 seconds of a round you won. And the fact that he didn't even attempt to do it, it was like, oh, man, you're done. You're fucking done.

I was watching it at home, and I noticed, like, at the three-minute mark, you know, there's a thing that you can tell, especially when you've seen so many fights, where you see a guy in the beginning and you see like how his body moves and then you see a diminishment yeah and I saw like at three minutes I saw the feet were heavier the movement was different he was still he still looked good but I was like oh he's already feeling it three minutes in wait Well, you know what threw me off? He fought my buddy, Saudi Sy. And, dude, Saudi Sy is a fucking savage. Like, he's a PFL champ. The fucking guy could strike.

And he wrestled hard against Saudi for, like, you know, a hard three rounds. So I went in there thinking, oh, this guy has, like, a tank. I watched him wrestle my friend. Yeah, it was shocking, man. But, you know. Well, he's only had two UFC fights. He had that one fight. Was it in France? Yeah, against, like, Dustin. Right. But Dustin's a fucking can, man. But, you know. Well, he's only had two UFC fights. He had that one fight. Was it in France?

Yeah, against, like, Dustin. Right. Dustin's a fucking can, dude. Like, he should not be in the UFC. Like, he, again, I like Dustin. He's a fucking yogi, dude. Like, he does more yoga than training. He came to Vegas.

I think I broke his nose in the first minute. And, like, and then he came to Extreme. I pretty much told Chris Curtis, I'm like, Curtisis if you let justin dustin walk out of this fucking round i will respect you less as a man you know like you're not part of our fucking team like if you if you let him have any success with you dude like i will respect you less as a man how did dustin get in the ufc so it's kind of i don't know who he fought but uh he picked up a guy or a guy picked him up and slammed him and broke his shoulder. Oh.

So his hype train was fighting a guy who doesn't belong here. So the guy broke his shoulder in the slam? Yeah. So now it's like, oh, Dustin slammed him or something happened, and then that's how he got signed. Yeah, Dustin's a fucking can. He's a fucking defector, bro. He's an American living in Germany. You can't respect that fucking guy. Oh, how dare he. He's a fucking defector, bro. Sorry, Dustin's a fucking can. He's a fucking defector, bro. He's an American living in Germany. You can't respect that fucking guy.

Oh, how dare he. You're a fucking defector, bro. Sorry, Dustin. I don't even know what country you represent, you motherfucker. I do not agree with the things Mr. Tricklin is saying, Dustin. But I do agree that there's something about those guys that are used to taking guys out in the first round. There's something about those guys that are used to taking guys out in the first round. There's something about those guys. A lot of these, like, daggy Muslim dudes, they're bullies, bro.

They're fucking, like, you know, that fucking Ali, that fucking cunt, the manager. I mean, I'm probably going to rub some people the wrong way, but fuck him. You know, I'm going to see him. We're going to go fighting after I say that. He's like, did you hear what Sean said about me? I'm like, yeah, you're a fucking cunt, dude. I like how he did the accent. Yeah, he's a fucking cunt. So like this fucking cunt, Ali, good thing. I mean, I don't give a fuck. He comes

to the gym and he watches me spar Marvin Vittori, right? And then we spar Marvin Vittori. I don't give a fuck, dude. Marvin's a friend of mine. I'm trying to help him. And then fucking three weeks later, you pull out this fucking guy to fight me, you know. And then you start betting a pair that he's going to beat me. Like, you fucking rat, dude. You come watch me spar, and you pull this fucking guy out of your hat, and you go bet Alex he's going to beat me. Isn't that standard, though? I mean, I don't know, dude.

I don't think managers should be in the gym. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. But don't you think they have to kind of get a bead on how guys look and what they're doing yeah but then it's rough dude when you like when you watch me spar and then you're handling the guy and then you're handling a guy like you know what i'm saying like that that's a rough one dude yeah it's a that's a that's tricky well that's why you know like elite gyms have closed door sessions yeah you know as it should be you

shouldn't fucking be able to go watch guys train. And again, I always tell guys, like my opponents, you want to come watch me train? Come watch me train. Bring your best sparring partner and come watch me train. Well, your style is pretty much the same in every fight. It's like a steady, forward marching, and you're just very good at energy conservation.

You're just very good at knowing when to sprint. Well, I mean, like three weeks prior to the fight, me and my other buddy named Robin Shafar, up-and-coming boxer. Well, boxing is the most shady, shady business there is in the fucking world. Oh, yeah. It makes UFC look like higher education. Yeah, boxing, you guys, it's's corrupt so he's about 16 to know and the guy could box man i've seen him put work on ufc fighters like i've seen him spar like

bellator champions the guy does work so we did like a no time limit 40 minute boxing just whoever quits oh jesus christ yeah just because we're just bored you know cte special oh fuck yeah dude fuck yeah so it's kind of funny he was actually going through some like personal shit and he beat me. He beat me that day. But like I was hitting him. I was like, dude, you just like, there's something like, there's something with you right now. And after we get done boxing for like 40, 45 minutes, he starts telling me his personal issues.

I'm like, oh, fuck yeah, dude. You were ready to die today. That makes sense. I feel, I'm about to go for a hike with my girlfriend, bro. You're contemplating fucking life here. Yeah, yeah. you win, dude. You fucking win. That's like when Buster Douglas fought Tyson.

You know, Buster Douglas' mom died. And Buster Douglas had always been like that really talented guy with a wicked jab who just didn't apply himself like many really talented guys. And then for that camp, he just went fucking full in. Yeah, some guys do when they have that like i mean fuck even walking even sometimes me when i walk out like i gotta tell myself like dude you are a fucking loser like like you are fucking you don't belong here like just go in there and kill this motherfucker you know like i always joked i always had like i had a teacher tell me in like 70th grade one of the one of the few years i went to school she i think it was like her name was like miss wadja i don't know history or some shit

she looked at me she said sean you're the reason you're the reason why they build prisons oh jesus christ you're a little kid imagine that naughty but she she fucking nail on the fucking head dude like i was a fucking shit bag you know right but shit bags can grow up and become actual men it's totally possible to dismiss a kid at that early an age no dude but life is strange man like like they do very good at isolating shitty people so i mean i mean like when i was in elementary school i was homeschooled in like third fourth grade until until like you know seventh grade i went back to school and then they spotted me right at the back like oh this guy's a problem he's a shit bag like and they'll so they isolate you they put you in like a school where

you start two hours later and you end an hour early because they they gotta isolate you high school the same shit went to a continuation school so society like they do well at saying, hey, this kid is going to be a problem. We just got to, like, he's like cancer. We just can't let him infect other people. Let's fucking put him away. And then you get older and you just go to jail. Same shit. But it's funny that those kids, a lot of those kids, they can do things.

They just need a direction. They need something. And martial arts is the best thing for those kids. Every one of them. When people say, what's the best thing about bullies or best thing rather to deal with bullies like teach them how to fight you teach bullies how to fight they're not going to want to be beating people up there if you teach them how to train with real people they're not going to be doing that man i always say like mma like even like soldiers with ptsd that's like you know i mean i have a little bit growing up, just not even know what the fuck.

I always thought, like, it sounds fucked up, but I've always, like, when you hear, like, soldiers talking about PTSD, I'm like, you fucking pussies. Like, this is how I was when I was a kid. Right. Like, well, you know, at 20 years old, like, you know, I can't go in public or I can't sleep at night. I'm like, what the fuck's wrong with you, fucking pussy? Like, give me a gun. I'll fucking shoot someone in the fucking head right now i don't give a fuck but then i realized that like me i grew up so fucked up that that was my way of life but i couldn't imagine being a

normal motherfucker just being a normal guy trying to fuck the high school prom queen going to parties and all of a sudden you turn 24 and then like the veil was lifted and you're like who the fuck am i so like once i kind of realized that i had a lot more respect for him but you know what i was going with that is like training man if you guys if you guys have some fucked up issues some demons man like train and a lot of people that train are fucked up so it's like you have this good like brother ship this bond yes yeah it's fucking did me wonders oh man me too did so many people i know too there's so many like lost people who are some of the most exceptional people that i know because they went through that i remember the first time in my life that i ever felt happiness

like even when i think about it it makes my eyes water i was like 14 years old you know i was just a fucking fuck up loser man and my mom brought me to an mma gym and i got the shit kicked out of me just fucking like got the bloody fucking nose you know paul herrera yep so paul herrera used to have a gym empire mma the headhunter but he never he never trained like he was never there he was always in the business trying to fucking pedal you know fucking juice or something so it'd just be me and like probably 14 to 21 year old we'd just be in the cage with four ounce gloves fighting so the first day i went there i mean fucking bloody no i was thinking of paul blintel paul horero was the guy who fought big daddy goodrich yeah he was yeah the elbows oh jesus with the

fireman's carry yeah so fucking the first day i trained there man i mean i got the shit kicked out i mean i was so happy i remember walking out like wow this is what it feels like to be happy like i've never fucking felt this you know you got it all out of your body yeah and i was like fuck i'm addicted i mean i like even going into that dude i was like i was like 14 15 i had like crazy racist views like i mean i was like a little fucking hitler, which is funny. I make fun of a boost, but like, let's shit you not, dude. Like I was like, I was on a fucked up path. Even like, you know, I always like wearing white shirts and boots and jeans. I stopped wearing this.

I used to wear this. This is all I wore when I was a kid, but I stopped wearing it once I started training because I thought it looked too much like a white supremacist. So I was like, I can't wear this shit. A white shirt? Well, because you wear your white shirt, your boot. You ever seen American History X? Oh, okay.

So, like, it's like the standard you look like a white supremacist. And I loved that shit when I was a kid. I loved that shit. That's what I wanted. Like, I wanted to look like a piece of shit white supremacist. So when I started training and I was like, oh, dude, you, like, you were lost. You were like, that's not who you are. That's not what you believe.

I, like, went away from it. I grew my That's not who you are. That's not what you believe. I went away from it. I grew my hair out fucking super long, got the name Tarzan. I didn't dress like that. And now as an adult, I'm comfortable with who I am. I'm not a racist. I love everybody. Now I could go back to my roots

of being just a white trash motherfucker. It's nice, man. I've really accepted who I am. Well, it's so interesting to watch people go through these changes in life in these trials through adversity and become like a very interesting person at the end of it oh yeah you know

like I you know I know you say a lot of outrageous shit and it's very funny but you also say some very good shit you know like this speech that you gave when you're talking about America like that speech the post fight press conference speech it's a fucking great speech well you know what it is you meant i i'm white trash like i like what i mean by that is like i am the future of america so like like both my parents work you know my dad's piece shit but you know fucking inhale

probably right now but both my parents worked they made good money but we were poor we were poor because after the cigarettes the bars and the fast food were fucking poor i mean like you know we had like fucking i can't tell you you'd find a piece of paper and you wrinkled up you use that fucking toilet paper you know every time i wipe my ass with a with a piece of fucking paper you get laying around but this is like it's like this unholy alliance that corporations are doing to america they want women working they want lower wages and they want more consumerism and it's like i don't mean it like i'm not sexist like oh put women back in the kitchen you know they suck and i love fucking women you know take off the burq, wear a fucking bikini, and huzzah. But you know what I'm saying?

But we're truly in a weird time to where corporations are eroding values of America. Well, they act within their best interests. And their best interest is to keep people, consumers, and make sure that people just pay attention only to stupid shit you you have walmart in the in the in your phone now you want to go i mean i can't even even me i'm to blame there's some times you guys where i'm like man i'm a little depressed i don't know i'm fucking in a bad mood i'm like i'm gonna go on amazon let's see what the fucking amazon fairy is recommending me today maybe i could maybe i could find something that'll give me a little serotonin boost find some happiness in a one click yeah and then so it's like you and then you have like

and then on top of that now we go full circle you have two parents working and i'm going mostly on the west coast you have shitty fucking kids dude las vegas graduation rates less than 50 percent high school dropout no ged i'm not one to not one to talk. But how do you raise a family, a successful family, when your kids are being raised by the system? Right. By fucking TikTok. After my fight, I had the doctor, you know, good guy, the doctor at UFC. He comes up to me. He's like, hey, why are you talking bad about Las Vegas?

I'm like, well, Dr. John, or whatever your name is, doctor. He's a cool dude. What school do your kids go to? And he just gets a big like smirk i'm like yeah i'm sure you're paying like 50 50 plus a year to educate your kids like so again man i mean where's the reset button maybe there is no reset button i think the reset button is teaching people that there's things that you can do in life that can transform you. And I think as weird as that sounds, a lot of people learn that through watching people like you evolve through fighting because it's the most difficult thing you do outside of war and being a cop and being a fireman.

It's the most difficult physical pursuit that a person can get involved with for a living. But again, we're talking on such a deeper fundamental level. If you have no belief, like we could say America's becoming atheist. Like we could say that if you have no belief, if you have no moral right, no wrong, and you're not taught this from like a stable family and you're being raised, I mean, like literally America's becoming like communist China where like, we're letting our school system dictate values and beliefs. We're letting the system tell you what your kids are. And again, I'm agnostic. So I'm not, I'm not telling everybody to go find Jesus.

You know, if you're going to find somebody, at least let it be fucking Jesus. Right. But I mean, how do you, how do you fix a moral decay of a society when that's just where we're going? Yeah. TikTok, man. Even, even fucking communist China will China will mitigate what shows on TikTok, but they give us utter fucking filth. But it's just, I know exactly what you're saying.

And, you know, I went through the public school system, but I did it in the 1980s. It was very different. It's getting worse. Yeah, it's a lot worse now. But, I mean, how do you, like, again, like, if you were, you know, if you were God Joe Rogan, how do you fix this? You got to pump a lot of money into inner cities.

You got to figure out a way to make programs. And there's places in this country that for decades and decades have been filled with crime and gang violence and drug addiction. And that's all they know. And that's the standard of their community. And that's what you grow up with. And that's all they know. And that's the standard of their community. And that's what you grow up with. And that's what you see. And if we don't fix that, the odds of those people coming out of there, I mean, there's a few that come out of there that become, you know, whether they're artists or athletes or whatever it is, they find a way through. They figure it out. But they're the rare ones. They're the rare ones, which we got to do is create systems where you have opportunity for kids and also

Mitigate the crime and mitigate the violence and whatever the fuck has to be done Look if they can dump billions of dollars into Ukraine It's not gonna aim if they could dump the billions of dollars into I mean There's so many different things that they pump money into, but they've never pumped any money into Baltimore. They never pumped any money into Detroit. Like, try to figure out a way. Like, if you can, like, think about, like, what Halliburton did during the Iraq War. They got these no-bid contracts where Cheney was the fucking CEO of Halliburton.

He becomes the vice president of the United States. And then the company he worked for gets these no-bid contracts to rebuild shit we blow up Which is wild, but there's profit in that right? So what about figuring out a way to funnel that profit into fixing inner cities? If we have less losers we have a better America and if you give people more opportunity you have less losers You know so even let's go on the smallest scale of sex you have less losers you know so even let let's go on the smallest scale of sex like uh how old are you joe 55 when did when is the first time you started watching porn can i ask that question yeah it was uh vhs tapes came out when i was like i probably was like 15 15 or 16 okay so i mean we

had uh my brother so my brother's a few years older than me so he remembers things that i don't but he'll like tell me i'm like i'm like oh shit i forgot about that so i was watching porn in like early elementary school like first grade and second grade like because we had like a communal porn box oh yeah yeah like my dad my dad my dad had this like like an old school water heater box and just stacked with fucking porn right so you kids don't know about this, but we had, like, the communal VCR. So, like, you would go to watch Aladdin, you know, and all of a sudden, like,

Buttfuckers 29 is on the fucking TV. So I started watching porn when I was, like, I don't know, I was jerking off to fucking third grade, my fucking third grade teacher. But I was surrounded by that right right so so already i'm at this moral decay and it was like and i was the odd one i was the odd one man like i had to go fucking find the porn i had to go fucking my brother always jokes my brother always jokes that like when he would like take my dad's porn tape out of the vcr he would always have to rewind it to

where he started so no one knew he was watching porn but then he jokes oh man i always know where my dad's coming now you know the spot when you come you just shut the fucking thing off how gross but so yeah right fucking yeah dude my dad was fucking i'm surprised i'm not more fucked up but you know so what I'm saying. Is he alive now? No, he died of cancer. He's actually fucking, I'll tell you. But it's kind of funny.

Like, so I'm an oddity. I'm an oddity. I'm jerking off from a little fucking kid, you know. I'm an oddity. Like, I'm fucking violent. But now, but now, dude, you give a little kid a cell phone and you have two parents working next thing you know i mean you fucking go on instagram you got titties in your face like now we're like hyper sexualizing kids and i i think that's also a big moral decay because the

moment you become hyper sexualized and i can't stop thinking about fucking pussy and dick like right it starts fucking your brain up at such a young age. And it's a very unusual way to give it to kids where they have instant access to watching porn on their phone all day long. And we have no morals. There's no reason not to be a shitty person these days. You ain't going to heaven. Just fucking go fucking fuck the chick.

Come in her. Like, you don't got to raise your fucking kid. So I think one of the best things we can do as society is mitigate mitigate sex because that is like the gateway to like that's why we want to make money that's why kids want to sell drugs that's why kids want to go fucking party there is no fucking pussy like you know no one no one fucking like no one if like if there is no fucking pussy no one's going to a party like why the fuck why don't i go to a party and drink i'm gonna go to get fucking pussy you know? Right. Yeah.

I always joke. I say no one shoots up a school because they have too much fucking pussy. That's true. But there are some good things about it. There are some good things about it. Oh, for sure there's good things about it. But it is weird when it's, like, hyper-sexualizing kids. It's not good.

And then, like, you go and you see fucking kids these days, like, the shit they wear. Like, fucking, dude, put some fucking clothes on. You fucking like 16, your fucking titties are out. Well, they're being told that that's what gets them attention. Yes. You know, and they're being, they see it all the time on Instagram when a girl has like 5 million followers and every photo is a picture of her ass. Yeah, fucking assholes hanging out and shit, you know. Fuck, dude.

That's crazy. You had Norm Macdonald. Yeah, I loved him. I fucking love Norm Macdonald. He's a great guy, man. I love this skit about being famous. He's like, what do we have to do after they went to the moon? You had to go to the moon to be famous.

Now you just show your fucking asshole. Success, dude. There we go, man. Yeah, it's true. Norm was a gangster. He didn't even tell anybody he had cancer. Didn't tell anybody. He was a fucking man, dude.

My friend Adam, who's a very good friend of his, he didn't even know yeah he just fucking went off to canada to die a solid fucking guy too man like super solid good you never think he was like a solid moral human being but like as he got older he started showing that like hey i'm a decent human being like oh shit no he was a great guy he was a maniac though he was really just randomly for some reason twice i was on flights with him sitting right next to him just totally randomly shit it was crazy and uh one time we were on this flight and we're talking and uh he was telling me yeah i stopped smoking i don't smoke anymore and we're talking about smoking and this and that and i'm like what you know what was it about

smoking he's telling me the whole deal the we land, he goes right into a fucking store and buys a pack of cigarettes and he's lighting the cigarette up before he gets out the door. I go, I thought you quit smoking. He goes, I did,

but then I started talking about it. I want to smoke. I want to smoke, yeah. He couldn't, he was lighting it inside before he went out the door. Hey,

well, fucking man had a good life, dude. He had a great life. Fucking cancer, man. My dad died of fucking cancer. Fuck.

It's horrible shit. My dad, dude, he was so fucked up on pills that, like, he had every kind of cancer. Like, I mean, like, body, brain cancer. Like, every kind of cancer. And I think the doctors were like, dude, how did you not know something was wrong? Like, at

this point, you should have been like, there's something wrong with you, right? Right. Yeah, fucking A, dude, yeah. And then he was like like my dad was such a fucking coward though like he was the kind of guy like no norm did the right thing he's like i'm gonna go can i'm gonna die with dignity nah fuck that dude my dad was like give me all the drugs i'm just gonna ride this bitch out well if you're doing pills already and they tell you you're fucked nothing to do pills man you want to talk about like the corruption like i don't know't know. I'm sure your viewers have a lot of experience with dealing with people who do pills, man. It's horrible, dude.

It's the worst. And that Sackler family, they just fucking bribed their way out of being prosecuted for that. They just gave up $6 billion so that they're immune to prosecution. It's fucking evil shit what they did. They knew that stuff was addictive. They knew that people were going to get hooked. They knew it was going to ruin lives and kill people. I mean, you're in the entertainment area.

I'm sure you deal with it, dude. It makes you zombies. Like, pills suck the soul from you. When I was in my motorcycle accident, man, I fucking tore. I'm still missing my quadricep. I fucking left part of my kneecap on the road. And, like, I would not take pills just because I watched it my whole life growing up. It's like, fuck that.

I'm just going to be in pain for the rest of my life. What's wrong with your quadricep? So whole life growing up. It's like, fuck that. I'm just going to be in pain for a day. What's wrong with your quad, you said? So, it's torn. It's gone. So, you don't have a quad? Yeah, no. There's a little indent right there. See how it, like, dips in?

Oh, whoa. Yeah, so I got to the point where it's like, I mean, I can go get a fix. I'm going to be out for a year. So, you know, I'll deal with that. How would they fix it? Probably just, like, you know, maybe it would be a pain in the ass. They'd probably have to, like, lengthen it. It's probably dead now.

But, yeah, I think they probably could. But I'm going to be out for a year, two years. How much of it does it affect your movement? Have you compensated with the other muscles? If I was athletic, it would be really hard for me to fight. But I stand like a fucking tree, you know? I'm the easiest. Like, it's so funny. Guys will come to the gym, like D1 wrest tree, you know, like I'm the, I'm the easiest. Like,

it's so funny. Guys will come to the gym, like D one wrestlers. And I'm like, I'm like, listen, dude, you could shoot on me. I'm the easiest motherfucker to take down.

You're going to take me down, but you ain't going to hold me down. So I, luckily I, I stand like a fucking idiot. So I could, I could, you know,

it's not that bad, but if I was like an explosive wrestler, I'd be fucked. I couldn't track. Are you wanting me to fight anymore? It was my lead leg. It'd be hard to, because I wouldn't be able to absorb damage. But, yeah, so, like, yeah, pills, man, fucking scary. They're terrifying.

Dude, I'll never forget my dad, my fucking dad, dude. I'm, like, 17, 18, and I come home, and, like, he's laying in bed, dude. My brother's 19, 11. My mom bought us guns at, like, and I come home, and he's laying in bed, dude, my brother's 19, 11. My mom bought us guns at like super early. Dude, I was like in fucking elementary school with a loaded gun in my room, you know? Really? Yeah, it's white trash, dude. So I'm like 17, I come home, and my dad's sitting there, and my fucking brother's 45.

You know, really cool 45, and he's like talking about killing himself, and I'm like. Oh, God. And I'm like, dude, dad, like, I'm's, like, talking about killing himself, and I'm like. Oh, God. And I'm like, dude, dad, like, I'm like, dude, you should do it, man. Like, you should fucking do it. You told him to do it? Well, like, I'm like, dude, your wife's fucking her boss. Your wife's cheating on you.

Like, you're fucking poor. Like, you're a drug addict. Like, where's your path to success from here? You were telling him this at 14? No, I was, like, 17. I was, like, 17. I was like, where is your, I mean, fuck, dude, I were telling them this at 14? No, I was like 17. I was like 17. I was like, where is your, I mean, fuck,

I would have told him at 14. I probably would have at 14, I probably would have pulled the trigger. You know? But I was like, dude, I was training now. I was in a better place. So I was like,

I was like, where is your fucking path to success here? Like, where is your happy ending? I mean, there was that one point where I fucking took a gun, put his head, put his hand on the trigger and I said, just fucking,

you know, when you're a minor sociopath, too, you know, you kind of get power out of that. You kind of get a little kick out of it. Like, oh, yeah, I wonder if I can make him kill himself. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. But fast forward, fast forward. It's great you can laugh at it now.

Oh, dude. I mean, if you can't laugh at all your fuck that dude i mean i went through some shit growing up man but fast forward like fast forward man you fucking you know died 10 years later fucking cancer and if you would have just fucking some people you can't help dude there's some people that like i mean i'm not an advocate for suicide but there are some fucking motherfuckers in the world you cannot help yeah and if you would have just did it it would have saved himself 10 years of misery jesus christ yeah no dude my dad my the worst thing about my dad dude is like when i was a kid dude he was like

the monster dude he was like the fucking boogeyman and i remember this one time dude my brother fucking strapped like we're talking elementary school strapped a knife to his leg to go stab him like we're talking elementary school strapped a knife to his leg to go stab him and then he bitched out last second i remember like him taking off the duct tape around his leg just ripping all his hair out but yeah later in life i think the first time i hit my dad i was like 17 i headbutted and broke his nose he just fell down crying i was like so disappointed i was like you motherfucker you piece of shit, dude. Like, you're the biggest fucking coward, you know? Yeah, life's crazy.

I mean, how'd you, man? You had good parents growing up? My parents split up when I was five. Oh, shit. But I got a good stepdad. Okay. What about your dad? You talk to your dad?

No. You don't have a picture? No, I don't talk to him at all. Yeah. Fucking dude, men suck, man. Some of them do. I'm like a bull dyke, bro. I like fucking, I don't know why lesbians hate me

I'm with you fuck the men I like pussy I hate men There's good men out there But it's hard to be a good man It's a long path It's a very difficult path Fucking good men make fucked up kids They make fucked up

But there's not really many good men out there I'm going west coast it's hard it's hard to be a good man i mean it's a lot of work well growing up my neighbor sucked all my all the hoodlums i hung out with fucking suck right and that's all you know yeah yeah well it's like what we're talking about with inner cities like it's if that's all you know it's very difficult to see a path outside of that i mean if if i you know say i fucking had a kid when i was younger, like, I would have fucked that kid up. I would have fucked that kid up. I mean, white trash, trailer park. I mean, I wouldn't have beat him or put my dick in him, but, like, I would have fucked that kid up.

Right. It's actually funny. I always tell this story. My dad's dying of cancer, and he's doing, like, his, like, forgiveness speech. And I'm like, I'm going to fuck you. I'll go see you. He's like, Sean, you know i was i was really bad to you and your mom but uh but uh but at least i never put my at least i never at least

i never molested you oh boy i was like fuck yeah what a low bar cheers hey you never fucked me give me one of those oxys i could ride this out with you yeah man what the fuck man but i think also too that's why people like me, because most people are fucked up. They see me and they're like, oh, yeah, man, I was fucked up. I watched my mom get the shit kicked out of her, too. I've dodged a beer bottle on Christmas morning. So I think that's why people like me, because a lot of people are fucked up. A lot of people are fucked up, but you've managed to go through being fucked up to

becoming one of the best fighters in the world yeah that's the hard path oh man it was obsessive like like i mean when i was uh so i didn't really like when i was fucking angry dude like i mean i wanted to fucking kill someone so bad as a kid i'd walk around with a fucking knife just hoping i'd fucking just like fuck i still want to kill somebody it just would make me feel good you know i just fucking just oh i fucking love it but so you had that kind of anger growing up and i needed fucking so that's why i was also white white supremacist i mean could you picture being like can you picture i don't even know what this is like and no one even interjected in my life me being 12 years old walking around doing the fucking hell hitler salute with a fucking swastika on my arm at no point did anybody say like hey maybe we should help this fucking kid you know i was in a i remember like seventh grade i i took a permanent mark and i drew a swastika on my arm and the teacher took

me outside and like berated me like pretty much called me a piece of shit like do you know what that fucking means like you know like you're like just you're a fucking piece of shit at no point was he like hey man like why is this fucking like 12 year old kid right swastika on his arm right yeah it's fucking yeah the system's weird dude systems well life can certainly be weird if you get those circumstances but you're like best case scenario from those circumstances training man it's fucking training i dude, I was so fucking angry. Like, and that was the best thing about fighting for me is I could go in the garage every Friday night, Saturday night, and just hit the bag all night long.

And when my brothers party, my brother had these, like, so we didn't have, like, we had parents, but, like, my dad was probably trying to fuck the girls that my brother brought over for the high school parties, you know? So it's like so my dad was out there probably giving him drugs and shit so like i would just be in the garage with all these fucking parties and debaucheries and fucking threesomes and foursomes were taking place and i would just be in the garage fucking smack in the back and then like i was i didn't fit in so like it was it was really just a way for oh sean's not weird he's a fighter sean's not the fucking weirdo that

doesn't know how to talk to people. He's a fighter. And that gave you your identity. It gave me my identity. I mean, every night I'd be running at night. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, fucking.

Where did you start? What gym? Empire. I started when I was about 14. And where was that? Corona, California. And then I had my first, like, smoker fight at, like, 14. So, I mean, I'm fucking old now, you guys.

That was before amateur. How old are you? I'm fucking old now you guys that was before i'm old i'm 32 that was like before amateur mma so it's like pretty much what you would do is you would just show up they put chairs in they buy tickets and random people would just show up and you'd fight yeah so that's how i started and you didn't even want to fight i didn't want to fight i was like paul hair was a fucking scumbag he was just like you would show up and be like well if you're if you're training here, you're fighting here. Go sell tickets. Me being 14.

I mean, I think my first fight was against guys like 28 years old. Like, you know, my fucking nuts barely dropped, dude. But yeah, anger is a hell of a fucking thing, dude. Yeah. And it's impossible to grow up like that and not have anger. Fuck, dude. You know what's weird, though? And the thing is, though, it's not like, and I try to tell people, like, I'm not necessarily anger fuck you know it's weird though and the thing is though it's not like and i try to tell people like i'm not necessarily anger i'm not angry like like i would love to

fucking cut somebody open and i'm not angry like it just sounds nice like you gotta get that out of your system buddy i want to get a spar three times like yeah like you gotta understand man you gotta understand bro you gotta understand like, oh, go to therapy. Like, your brain, dude, like, the damage is done, bro. It's unfixable. Like, I mean, there is one. Don't you think that sparring and training is a form of therapy? I don't think I spar so much.

Yeah. And that's why I have such a good style where I don't get hit because I love to spar. And if I got hit, I couldn't spar. Well, your control of distance, your distance management because of all those rounds ufc did a test where they let us wore a mouthpiece and i think that like my whole training camp i like i barely got hit and i spar like i sparred the most and took the least amount of damage than anybody in the program because you spar so much i spar so much but you like is that the majority of your training yes i really spar i'll hit pads occasionally but it's all live goes.

Really? All live goes? What about strength and conditioning? You doing any of that? Not really, no. Really? It's just sparring? Just sparring, man. There's no better way to get in shape for fighting than fighting.

It's fun, dude. It's fucking fun, man. I'm such a nicer, better person. After I go and try to fucking kill a man, I come home and my girlfriend, even if she wants to pick a fight, I'm like, baby, it's okay. Don't worry about it. Don't trip. What did I fuck up? Tell me tell me tell me i'll fix it you know like like your training training's fucking nice dude yeah but i mean dude i don't like i think a lot of

people don't have these crazy homicidal urges dude i think we all want to fucking shank somebody shift somebody there's a lot of people out there that have that yeah there's a lot of unresolved anger bro i used to like i used to sleep in my mom's bed a lot right because i thought i mean we're talking about like well when i shunned it in like elementary school because i like i thought my dad was gonna fucking kill my mom so every night i would like i would go to bed thinking like oh shit my mom's gonna die tonight you know but his words not mine so like yeah i mean you got to learn to laugh at it right at least you didn't at least you didn't fuck me i mean i have some bad dreams but i'm just gonna say those are bad dreams right

jesus christ so yeah you know repressed memories are bad dreams it's it's always better to say bad dreams right yeah so i like like dude i used to like sleep out by her fucking and this is where Yeah. So I like, like, dude, I used to like sleep out by her fucking, and this is where fucked up too. Like I used to sleep by her door in here and fuck all the time because, you know,

because you're being a little kid, dude, like enlisting your mom, get fucked by your dad because like, you're so afraid of, she's going to fucking die. That's so crazy. Yeah.

So there's one night, there's one fucking night, dude. And this is just like, and mind you, this is nightly. This is nightly, but this night stands out the most and my mom fucking dumb bitch i love my mom she's amazing i mean she's terrible but she's amazing you know she grew up in a boxcar how do

you fix that so her dad her dad was a piece of shit so one night like i'm like probably like third fourth grade and i went to go sleep in my mom's room my dad's like fuck that they're having a bad fight i'm like fuck so i'm like laying out by the door trying not to fuck him you know and i'm like fuck it like i just don't feel good about this tonight i don't feel good about it tonight so i like crawl under the bed crawl under the bed and uh we had like dog there's no white trash bro like you got white trash it's got like like fleas everywhere like fleas so i'm like i'm high into the bed now there's fleas i think there's a fucking dildo me so maybe like third grade there's a fucking deal next to me this fucking fleas jumping all over me oh man so my dad my dad gets on top my

mom and she says I saw I'm gonna fucking kill me was just rough so I know maybe they're gonna grab the deal who afterwards so my dad gets on top my mom he starts fucking like strangling her right and he's like i'm gonna fucking kill you tonight so maybe a little kid i get up i'm like fuck the only thing i see is the guitar my sister's guitar she's so mad at me about i grabbed the guitar just fucking smack it up his head grab the phone call a cop run down the hill oh my god my mom that dumb bitch bells him out of jail oh jesus christ but you know like and this is where it's fucked up dude like my mom like my that's where like my mom grew up in a fucking boxcar in death valley bro like yeah like how

do you you know how do you fix that generation of fuck you do yeah well yeah no that's the way you do by becoming you i don't drink yeah for sure that's literally the only way like someone has to come out of that they go like there's a way out of this. And, well, the thing is, dude, I'm not, like, I mean, I had a little interesting childhood, you know, a lot of repressed memories and bad dreams and shit we don't need to talk about. But, like, man, I'm calming, dude. I'm calming. I'm way more than you think. Yeah.

They just don't have a voice. Yeah. And this is, like, you know, like, tell the black communities, the poor communities, man. I'm fucking guys without fucking dads. Like, fucking rough, dude. Fucking, yeah, life is hard, dude. Life's fucking hard. Yeah.

But it really is. That's the best path. Like, martial arts are the best path to recover from that. Yeah. The only issue with martial arts, though, dude, and this is what I tell people people and if you got a kid who's trained and let's just say you're training what i'll what i'll tell you dude and this is factual and you guys should always understand this i tell every everybody that comes in the gym i had one guy a little billy bob's a pancreation champion i'm gonna go that's cool and i tell him this when i was a kid like 14, training at a gym, and there was a guy named Zach Light.

I don't know, fucking old school. I remember that guy. But he was like, you know, I'm like 14 years old. This guy's like a hero to me. I'm watching him teach cardio kickboxing. I'm watching him teach like jiu-jitsu and like he'll spar and fuck me up. I'm like, oh, man, this guy's so fucking cool. He's the life that I want.

And then hindsight, this man probably hates his fucking life. He's probably fucking half brain dead he's teaching cardio kickboxing classes for 20 bucks 20 bucks a class so it's like whenever you look at you see fighters and you want to be this understand most of us most of us end up poor broke and regretting our life choices like it's easier ways to make money guys i i think that's true i love fighting if it was fighting i'd probably be a fucking i want to be a serial killer i'd probably just be a just a fuckhead in jail with a swastika on my arm but don't you think that like that path if if you're you you be 100% obsessed to become successful.

But even then, man, I mean, I see guys so often in life. It's kind of funny talking about UFC and money. I was, uh, I have a buddy named, I'm gonna fuck his name up. Sorry, Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, some Brazilian guy, a contenders guy, really good, really good guy. Um, he's trying to fight Bo Nickel. Anyway, UFC guy, he just bought his first house having a kid dude like the average house in brazil to buy is like two hundred thousand dollars like maybe even

less i mean that's like a nice house a nice house an average house in america is four or five so it's like you know you you see a lot more foreigners in the sport and you're like why are there more foreigners in the sport america's pussies and like no because they can afford it you go when you fight they said they're signing guys at 10 and 10 like literally 10 and 10 like 10 and 10 on four fights man in three fights you get cut so they they sign these brazilians these daggies what the fuck you want to call them they go home with their 20k and they're living life good they're living life good how do you live on 20k and 20k and pay your manager and pay your trainers and pay your gym fees and food and proper nutrition so again i think that's also a big reason why we're we're

seeing less americans because you know they're taking our jobs like fuck dude like you know it's easier to import a man it's easier to import fighters and they go back home to dagestan brazil and they live on their let's just say they make shit shit money they're happy well it's also who's talented and why they why are they so driven and who's training them and what what kind of environment are they america is the best we have the best athletes in the world man if there was like nfl money in in the uc again i people think that i hate on UFC. Dude, I make more money in the UFC than I should make in my entire fucking life. Like, I am a fucking company man. Like, if it wasn't for the UFC, bro, I'd be a piece of shit.

I'd be a fucking drug addict. But if there was NFL money in the UFC, we would dominate. Dominate the UFC. There would not be one foreign fucking champion. But do you think that a lot of those guys who play sports, like they play football or they play basketball, do you think they would want to fight? Because you

have to have a very different kind of mentality to want to get into a ring or a cage with another man. It's different than playing a sport. If it was a high school... The pressure, the consequences. If it was a high school thing and you could go get a d1 scholarship and you could leave the ghettos by by being an ma fighter 100 100 they

would do it fuck yeah man so how do we fix that like money in the ufc how the matter i mean fuck i don't know you know more about that than me um well there's money in the ufc for guys like you oh yeah there's money in the ufc but that's yeah I can see But that's also in boxing The UFC is better than boxing When it comes to how undercard fighters get paid Again and this is I'm a company man when it comes to UFC guys Like most people Most people

Most guys Like even if they make fucking 80k a year 90k a year That's better than what we should have made We're like We're fucking I'm a fucking loser But

How do you fix it man? I don't know. I don't think it needs to be fixed. Well, it's better now than it's been before. Let me just say, UFC has the most pay discrepancy. Like, when you're talking about, like, top earnings to lower earnings, I think UFC probably has the most. Boxing is worse.

Well, boxing is worse. But, I mean, we could say, let's exclude boxing, but there's way more money at the top and way less trickle down. But I don't give a fuck. But it's so hard to get to the top. I mean, imagine just trying to explain to someone what you've done

to become a top contender. You only need to have one fuck-up, one slip-up, one mistake, two bad losses, an injury. But here's the thing, dude, guys. I'm not like, even though we're fucking whores, dude, we're prostitutes. And I'm not like, you know, I'm not like, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. We take our fucking clothes off and go fight a man.

Like, come on, dude. What the fuck? But it's not. It's like porn. But it's also the ultimate form of entertainment for people that are watching. There's nothing more exciting. Oh, yeah. Good fight, man.

Gaethje versus Chandler. Your fight this weekend. When you started turning it on in the second round, I was at the fucking edge of my seat. I was like, he's got him. But Gaethje versus Chandler. Oh, my God. That was front row on that one.

Insanity. Fucking lost short in their life on that one. Yeah. But, you know, but again, I'm not one of those guys bitching and complaining about pay. I get paid good money. I shouldn't be be here i shouldn't be making what i'm fucking making in life ufc gave me an opportunity and you don't know how many how many how many opera ufc is a common man sport right now fucking you know fucking jamie if he wanted to he could

train it probably not gonna happen but he could be in the ufc if he wanted to anybody could do it you yeah you let me restart my life and tell me to go be in the nfc if you wanted to anybody could do it you yeah you let me restart my life and tell me to go be in the nfl probably ain't gonna happen go be in the nba 100 not gonna happen ufc is a common man sport any any person on this planet could wake up one day and be like i want to be a ufc champion and they could make it get it done yeah i mean not that easy but you you know right i know what you're saying yeah yeah man Yeah, man. UFC's fucking great, dude. It's the best sport in the world, and anybody can do it. Well, it's not for everybody.

That's for sure. And for a guy to get as far as you've gotten, it's the rarest of the rare. I mean, you think about how many people are training, how many people have aspirations, and then filter them all out to how many people get to headline a main event. Ideally, though, if I could talk to a kid and they were to tell me they want to be at UC a main event ideally though if i could you know if i could talk to a kid and they were to tell me they want to be you see if i tell them don't do it don't yeah i would say that too it's so much it's america it's so so easy to make unless you're fucking completely fully obsessed i mean unless that's what you want to do that's the thing you

think about all day long because if you don't there's someone out there that does and there's a lot of you see if i was guys that suck. There's a lot of motherfuckers that suck. I mean, I get some. Extreme is like open doors. Anybody could come. Guys are in camp. There's some guys that are badass. But there's some UFC fighters I'm like, dude, you fucking suck.

How the fuck did you get here? How the fuck did. What short notice fight did you get? You are a sacrificial lamb. Well, there's definitely a few of those. Oh, there's a lot of those in the UFC. A lot of those. That's a weird one, the short notice fight against the top contender.

Like, you see some of those every now and then. You're like, Jesus. Generally, that's how you get in the UFC, though. You generally get in the UFC by, I mean, I think I took a two-week notice, a week notice on my first UFC fight. And that's why if you're not in the UFC, you've got to stay ready. You've got to build make way. You've got to stay fucking ready.

But, yeah, man, greatest fucking sport in the world, dude. Fucking love the UFC. Hopefully I can fight Izzy, the China's little slut. What is the status? So right now Whitaker is fighting this weekend against Drekas Duplicy. Yeah, yeah. And that will probably determine. That will determine.

But, I mean, nobody, I mean, fucking dude, how many times, like, this will be their third, fourth fight with Whitaker and Izzy? Yeah, but the last one was so close. That's why it's interesting to people. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, we'll see what happens with Duplicy. I think they want to fight on the Australian card. So we're in the works.

I think Izzy wants it. I think Izzy wants it. I think the management wants it. You know, so we're in the works. And fucking Izzy wants it. I think Izzy wants it. I think the management wants it. So we're in the works. And fucking Izzy, man. I can't stand that fucking guy. You see that? I love that guy. How come you can't stand him? Well, you gotta interview this guy, so you gotta be nice. No, I love him.

Did you see that thing when he was like, you look at the color of my skin, you think I'm from Africa. Have you seen that? No. Oh my god, you gotta see it, dude. We gotta see it. But he is from Africa. Well you seen that? No. Oh, my God. You got to see it, dude. We got to see it. But he is from Africa. Well, no. There's more.

Oh. I am not African. I am Chinese. What? You've never seen that? Oh, man. You got to watch. You got to.

Guys, if you guys watch this, can you, on your time, pull up Izzy Cringe. He says, I'll quote, you look at the color of my skin you think i'm from africa but i am from i am chinese like dude that level of fucking i played it because i do a little podcast the man dance and my buddy chris curtis you know i like to have a black guy on my podcast makes you look a little bit more wholesome and kurt never seen it too and i'm like kurt you know as a black man let's uh Did he say this when he was fighting in China? Yeah, he was fighting in China. But like that level, like I always call him China's little slut.

Oh, Jesus. Because like, dude, I mean, could you picture, like here's the thing, you guys. We have all done things. We have all been a whore to somebody. We have all been friends with somebody we shouldn't have been friends with. We have all been buddies because maybe he could plug me in this. Maybe he could give me a dollar. But like that level of fucking being a slut dude like my god how do you and then and then later on in life they they called him out for it they called him out for it he was like because they're

fucking paying me that's why and like dude then it makes you even a bear whore now you're like now you're getting defensive like oh yeah no i can't stand fucking and then he's like the video of him jerking His dog off you see that Don't sit around watching people jerk There's a video of you jerking your dog off. I wouldn't watch it. There's a video of him like fucking jerk his dog off I'm fucking sure Jamie seen it man. That's Jamie has not seen it. I can guarantee you would have told me about it I'm looking for this quote. I Some what type it in it's bringing up stuff because he fought in China you were saying something about that

it comes up as a short a YouTube short like Izzy's cringe moment and there's also a video of him jerking off his dog and like dude the guy is a fucking oh man and the fucking nail polish and god Izzy just fucking sucks you guys we need to bring back the old

Anderson Silva dude come back come back Anderson come back Fucking nail polish. And, God, Izzy just fucking sucks, you guys. We need to bring back the old. Anderson Silva, dude, come back. Come back, Anderson. Come back. But you've got to admit, the dude is talented as fuck. Oh, the dude can fucking fight, man. People always say, like, why do you talk shit on Izzy? Like, I never say the guy can't fight. I'm not sitting here saying Izzy's not a champion.

I'm not sitting here saying Izzy might not be one of the best kickboxers in the world. I'm saying that Izzy is China's slut. If he was in prison, he would turn you out. He would slut if he was in prison he would turn you out he would turn you in like he would sell you out like like there is not the character of izzy is so so low and this is coming from me you guys i just told you how fucking you know at least my mom and dad have sex well i thought she was gonna die so this is coming from like i'm an expert on like shitty people right it is he man china's china's and then the thing with the drake is remember when he got all mad at drake is because

drake has talked about being african yeah like motherfucker you aren't african you are chinese your words quote for quote drake has lived in africa his entire fucking life he never woke up one day and says you know what china's giving's giving me money. I'm Chinese now. You know, just fucking... If I ever fight Izzy, you guys, I'm gonna go get a little Chinese flag that says slut on it. Oh, boy. And I'll bring it to the weigh-in for you

guys, and I'll hand him his little Chinese flag that says slut just for Izzy. Do you think this is... Is this talking shit about him like this? Could this possibly fuck it up? No, I mean, I don't fucking know. I mean, wouldn't you want to hit the guy that says that you jerk your dog off? I don't know.

First of all, I didn't say he jerked his dog off. He jerked his dog off. I'm just reiterating the video. Okay. Man, you got to see this, bro. I don't have to see it. Oh, it's great. Don't ever want to see a dog get jerked off picture I got a picture so is he telling about you when as you take a couple of step backs and you're gonna be thinking about his dog off the whole fucking time

that's why I don't want to see it but yeah no guy's a great fighter fucking hands down great elite that that went over pahita that was, you know, man, he's also genetically so advantaged. Like, if Izzy was a normal-sized motherfucker, I'd walk through him. The only reason why I'd be a tough fight is because he's fucking, what, 6'4", 6'3", 80-plus-inch reach. There's nothing wrong with that, dude. But also super fucking talented. It's like you could beat—there's a lot of tall guys that just— No, I mean, middleweight.

There's not many guys with his stature. How tall was Magomedov? Not even close. Magomedov had, like, a 76, 77-inch reach, 78-inch reach. I mean, we're talking about, like, NBA level 6'3". Like, getting past 5, 6 inches of reach is a hard fucking thing to do. Yeah. Hard fucking thing to do.

Well, I was always – what is this? Culture and protocol? Oh, no, you got to do yeah hard fucking thing to do well i was always what is this culture and protocol oh no you gotta do that you gotta uh it i didn't it's a short bro go black i promise this one isn't short this is a little longer but but it's on like the main if you just click on uh i am the black dragon i was born in nigeria i grew up in new zealand but i have lived in china so i've embraced the China brothers my teacher seafood in James one comes from China and he has been teaching Chinese Kung Fu in New Zealand for almost 50 years now you're giving Lynn since I was a teenager you're're giving this man too much.

Izzy, I am Chinese. What are you thinking? I'm a black man. Put it in the microphone so we can hear it. Come on. Please, look at my heart. How about you take a look at me? What are you thinking?

I'm a black man. I'm from Africa. Come on. Please, look at my heart. Haven't you seen it yet wait a second pulls the flag out yes i'm a chinese i have a chinese heart there's a chinese heart i yes i am chinese i have a chinese heart but what i'm saying dude that level like china's a little slut you guys that fight needs to happen you guys and i'll do you one i'll do you guys a favor i'll bring a little chinese flag i'll write slut on it on it just so he can wave it like he did when he was getting money from him.

Oh, boy. Like, even me. I always joke about, like, dude, fuck China. Like, fuck China. Oh, God, I'm going to get kicked out of the UFC now. Is that my phone going off? I think so. You're playing new videos.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. That's what you get for using an Android. Yeah, fuck, man. Those fucking things just go off. But yeah, no, man. Fucking China, dude. Like, how do you even...

Like, after the fucking, like... Fucking... How do you even... Well, this was a long time ago, wasn't it? Yeah, I guess this was before, like, they were fucking... Yeah, we were in... Locking Muslims up. We didn't have this thought about China.

Like, I didn't even think about China 10 years ago. Yeah. China was just like, oh, they make stuff over there. China's the fucking enemy, dude. Well, it's a sketchy part of the world because they have an authoritarian government that controls all their corporations. Yeah. And that's what America wants. And they want to see that.

And they want that social credit score system. They want the centralized digital currencies so they can control what you buy. It's actually kind of funny, dude. Like, I talk so much shit on Muslims, guys. I can't help it. Like, I just talk shit on everybody. Like, I talk shit on Jews. I talk shit on Christians.

But at no point is a Jew coming up to me. At no point, dude. I talk shit on Jews all the time. At no point am I, like, opening up my inbox and I'm seeing, like, a Palestine flag talking about fucking cutting my head off. Muslims all the fucking time. All the fucking time, All the fucking time. Every time I fight a Muslim, dude, it's like, you guys should see my inbox, man.

It's fucking spooky. Do you read that stuff? I'll skim through every blue moon just to laugh. I mean, I carry a gun on me. I want to kill a motherfucker. Just make my day, motherfuckers. Jesus Christ, Sean. Jesus Christ, Sean.

The UFC is going to have the hardest time taking clips out of this one. You know, because sometimes they take clips out of like fighters interviews and they make promos.

This one, good fucking luck, kids. Yeah, fuck, man. All those guys working for the UFC, I salute you. You got a fucking

Bro, they had to cut my last press conference. They edited it out. I started talking about that girl that like, say my name, I remember your name. What are you talking about? The girl that like say my name i remember your name what

are you talking about the girl that died dude and like everybody fucking posted a fucking picture of her like dana god dude this is your aren't you like a fucking guy this is your guy right i'm just trying to remember what you said so she died amateur girl really shitty amateur fighter she died the letter got put to dana and dana posted her and says i know your name because in the in the journal diary the letter the the thing says i know your name who is this girl do you wear this jamie oh this is no no that's not her that's not her dude dana white posted about it oh okay but anyways so it's a bit it was a big fucking thing, and I kind of went hard on the Instagram, and I got a lot of shit for it.

So someone, yeah. How did she die? I think car accident. But again, someone brought it up in the press conference, and I just, you know me. I'm like a pseudo-comedian. I'm not quite funny, but I'm there. I'm almost there. So every time I make a really good point, I got to fucking ruin it.

You know? It's like, I got to fucking ruin it. But again, I don't want to be a fucking politician. I don't want to be a philosopher. I'm a fucking comedian that hits people. Yeah. So what Dana White did was fucking great, dude. I think that's awesome, man.

Someone showed him the journal, and he's like, you know, what Dana White did was fucking great, dude. Like, I think that's awesome, man. He fucking, you know, someone showed him the journal and he's like, you know, fucking I'm Dana White. I know your name. You know, blah, blah, blah. But then you had these fucking bandwagon motherfuckers, dude. You had, like, Joaquin Buckley, just the little, the cringe lord he is. Joaquin Buckley, dude. That guy's Instagram is fucking rough, dude. I like Joaquin Buckley. I actually want to hang out with him on Saturday.

I like him a lot. I'm actually gonna hang out with him on Saturday I like him a lot I'm gonna hang out with him on Saturday but man every time I see his Instagram it makes me wanna fucking fight him he's just a cringy motherfucker dude go look at Joaquin Buckley you'll know what I'm talking about so you know that little fucking attention whore he is little Buckley

cool little kick Jesus Christ Sean and the same thing same thing with fucking Stephen Bonner bro you got these fucking sluts bro you got these sluts that just like they wanna be

they wanna be like different than so he posted a picture of her and like and I'm like oh god damn it dude don't do it Sean don't bring this up

don't bring this shit up and you did and then I brought it up and I was like guys at the end of the day dude she's a hot young white woman that's the only fucking reason day dude she's a hot young white woman that's the

only fucking reason why and she's fucking trending no one gives a fuck about her dana white again on applaud to dana white that was a message directly to you but all you have the fighters in the repost button this and that you guys are just fucking fags you literally guys are just doing it for attention and what i said there's a lot of that what i said a lot of things that people do with a virtue signal there was a brazilian fighter and he mind you guys i'm a piece of shit i mean i'm just telling you how like i try to fucking kill my dad i'm like my my brain doesn't work right but this brazilian fighter died not too long ago hit by a bus ex ufc fighter and my first my first thought when someone told me it's like oh fuck man he can't dodge a bus can't't fucking dodge a punch, right?

that's why he's not in the UFC anymore mind you guys, I've been hit by a truck, I almost fucking died once, so you know it's like I have a black best friend here I've been there, you guys it almost fucking happened to me but that was my first response, was like but why is this man not trending?

this man probably left a family he probably you know he left a life he's not trending because he's a dirty fucking brazilian and no one gives a fuck about him if you were a hot young white woman you motherfucker would be trending you would be on espn our beloved you ex-uc fighter died and it's just like man we just live in this fake world it's so fake but that, we just live in this fake world. It's so fake. But that is a problem with social media, is that people have this opportunity to try to portray a version of themselves

that might not be honest. Oh, it's so fake. Or like when Stefan Bonner died. That motherfucker was gone, dude. I mean, I had a talk with Forrest, and Forrest kind of reprimanded me about it. Because, you know, rightly so, you guys. I'm an asshole.

I say things that are way off the cusp. There might be, like, an ounce of truth to it, but 90% of it's bullshit. Right. So, Stephen Bonner added me on Instagram. I'm like, oh, shit, Stephen Bonner. I'm a fucking fanboy. I'm going to fucking add him back. And then he would, like, post shit, send me messages, and I'd block him right out of the back.

I'm like, you're fucking nuts, dude. You're a fucking pill addict. i want nothing to fucking do with you right what was he sending you messages about just crazy like he just like he's just like a liberate like he like he's a libertarian dude but like a lot of it just like you know like just fucking nuts bro like his gym closed down during covid nuts but and this and that thing i got shit on and i was the only one that was like, fuck Stefan Bonner, man. That guy was fucking nuts. He was a fucking drug addict.

Like, I don't give a fuck about him. Like, I didn't go and fucking force the oxys down his throat. I didn't fucking make him OD. So everybody got me shit on that, and they all posted about it. And I'm like, listen, I didn't like the guy, and I blocked him. But where were you guys when his life was falling apart? Where were you guys when he was publicly saying my gym is failing i i can't i can't i can't keep the doors open they're locking me out where the fuck were you guys you guys weren't fucking anywhere you don't give a fuck about him

you never gave a fuck and then when he dies this is an opportunity and then and i'm not saying i'm not going to say names or anything but i've had i'm a fuck i can't remember who it was but i've had conversations with people who they didn't joke about it but it was like yeah that guy was fucking nuts and yet they're posting something it's just fake dude like just if you're gonna joke about his crazy ass dying and like him being a pill addict then you go and post about like oh yeah stephan bonner he was a great guy like no motherfucker he was a fucking pill addict you all knew we all fucking knew there were so many people involved in his

life that could have stepped in and i don't think you should have i've dealt with pill acts my whole life i think you should throw in some oxys and be like huzzah man enjoy i ran into him when he was sober i ran into him and he cleaned himself up i was uh no yeah when was this salt lake city about a year and a half ago. Oh, shit. He went through a stretch that he was clean. And I was doing a show out there and he came to the show and he came and he brought this stem cell doctor who runs this Utah stem cell clinic. And he was clear eyed and we had a fun talk.

It was cool. Well, that's what Forrest said, too. That's what Forrest said, too. And I told Forrest, I'm like, Forrest, I'm just telling you, dude, I've i've been i mean i was watching my dad snort oxys off the kitchen table when i was in elementary school like i know drug addicts the guy's a fucking drug addict and i was like and i'm not saying forrest is a stand-up guy i i think forrest did reach his hand out multiple times to help him but you know people know people aren't involved dude like imagine like your closest friend like if they were like addicted, addicted to drugs.

You would be, like, you'd be involved. Like, Chris Curtis, man. Chris Curtis has a little white baby on the way. You know, a little mixed breed. Chris Curtis, I'm proud of you, man. You're fucking making that money. You got your white wife. I'm happy for you.

We have a podcast together. It's nice. But if right now, like, if Kurt was addicted to Oxy. You would help him. I would fucking help him without a doubt. Yeah. I would fucking, I would help him. Or maybe he just didn't have someone like that in his life yeah and also sometimes those guys they burn so many bridges that by the time the shit goes sideways they don't have

anybody that's going to stick their neck that's why we talk about in segue to homeless people people like oh man like i will fucking i won't give a dime to a fucking homeless person dude you'll fucking be homeless go drink the sewer water like because you gotta think about me piece of shit but there was always someone in my life that's okay you can sleep on my couch for a weekend you can sleep on my couch for a week come train here sleep on my couch like if you're such a big piece of shit to where like there's not one person you can't call one person and be like yeah but it's like you're saying that because you knew people from training, people that knew you, and you could sleep on their couch.

There's some people that never have that. They never find a thing. They never have anybody in their life that's any good. There's circumstances involved. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. But there's circumstances involved with some people where they just never get a break.

Yeah. Like, I got better breaks than you did, but you got better breaks than some homeless guy so okay to that point i um my family home my mom lives in fallbrook fallbrook california it's a very it's a migrant migrant uh community there's this guy named juan fucking juan man he motherfucker i don't even think the guy can't even read or write. He's just, he's a migrant worker. He, man, he raised a family. Right.

Works his fucking ass off. Like what I'm saying is you have this Mexican guy that comes across the border legally, no license, no anything. Can't read or write. And this motherfucker is raising a family, a successful family. You know, even if I think he only has one kid is an American citizen, but raising a successful family. So it's so hard for me, man. It's America, dude. I know what you're saying. It's hard, bro. I know what you're saying, but it's, you got to recognize that some people have way worse circumstances, even even in me. Fuck. Yeah. I mean, I like, fuck you. I knew, I know girls have been fucked by their dad

their whole life. Like, You know what I'm saying? And some of my friends, bro, at Disneyland. I met a guy in South Africa who had to fucking kill his mom. Like, crazy. I'm fucking Disneyland. That's why I can laugh and joke at it. I think about this guy. Every time I feel like a bitch, you guys, every time I feel like a fucking pussy,

I look in the mirror and I think about my buddy in Africa who had to smoke his mom. Why do you have to smoke his mom? So again, what they do is they, uh, like they'll come into your village or wherever the fuck you're from and they want to like, they want to like brainwash you. And what's the best way of doing that? And then by like having to do something so fucked up, like, you know, and then if they, if they could get you to do that, then you're pliable. then they could give you drugs and they could like make you into a rebel and so they talked him into killing his own i i don't think it's like that i think the mom is like i think the mom is like dude kind of like if you don't do it they're gonna kill you too like

the mom is probably like encouraging him to oh jesus christ so what i'm saying you guys is probably like encouraging him to fucking. Oh, Jesus Christ. So what I'm saying, you guys, I tell myself that story once a week at least. And I'm like, dude, you're, don't be a pussy. Wow. But you know, sometimes like, it was kind of interesting.

I was telling you, our security team, by the way, Joe has a pretty solid ass security team. You guys don't want to come fuck with this guy. All like Navy SEALs, Special Forces and shit. It's a little overkill fucking Joe. Not really. Fucking more than Biden over here. No, it's not. That's a little overkill fucking Joe. Not really. Fucking more than Biden over here. No, it's not more than Biden and not overkill.

I could tell you some stories. Oh, yeah. I would imagine. I would imagine. But, you know, man, every now and then, again, this has nothing to do with that guy. He was a saint. But you got to do some bad shit, though. Like I was telling your security team, because, you know, I'm sure they've all done some bad shit.

Like my buddy Chris Curtis. So irrelevant, but it's a funny story. This construction worker comes to the gym. And it's on YouTube. It's on Instagram. He comes to the gym. And then Kurt's like, spar him. I'm like, Kurt, you should let me spar him. You should let me do the work.

And Kurt's like, no, I want to do it. I want to do it. So Kurt's being so nice, pulling head kicks and, like, just hits him with a body shot he falls and he stops i'm like you're such a fucking bitch dude you're such a fucking pussy so afterwards he's like sean like he has a family like he has a family like i'm not gonna take this man out of work like he just he just he doesn't know so afterwards the guy says something to kurt like uh like oh man if i was was in more shape, I could have did better with you or something. And then Kurt goes straight angry black guy. Kurt's like the whitest man you ever know.

But the moment he gets angry, bro, it's like full fucking bonics, angry fucking black man. And I'm like, Kurt, you had your chance. Like, you got to stop, dude. He's like trying to fight him now in the park, in the gym. Like, dude, you had your chance. So the guy was saying to him. Yeah, and then all of a sudden, Kurt just goes like straight angry black guy and he's like fuck that hole and we're all holding kurt back and i'm like kurt you had your chance and and sometimes you like you just

got to be comfortable doing fucked up shit like there's probably nothing i could do where i would like lose sleep at night nothing nothing sociopath no i mean maybe like like killing a family member or something or like yeah there's probably nothing i kind of want to find out like i kind of be curious like there's a part of me like i would never want to do it but like is there something i can do that would like make me say oh man i don't like myself well you're lucky you're in the right business but you know what i'm saying if kurt that what i told kurt like if it was me i would have fucking oh i would have fucking starched that guy as he's falling. I would have dropped a fucking people's elbow on his ass.

But man, you just got to push this. You got to fuck a fat chick every now and then, you know? You're so lucky you found fighting. It's so hilarious. You're going to look back on this conversation someday and go, God damn, when I was 34, I was out of my fucking mind. No, dude. I think I'm saying You're gonna look back On this conversation someday And go god damn When I was 34 I was out of my fucking mind

No dude I fucking I think I'm gonna be this way But like You think so? Have you ever done something really bad Like really bad Really fucked up

Not really Nothing really No nothing like that Nothing Oh man Nothing where I lose sleep over it The way we're shit than that No

I've done a much luckier life I've done things Where I should have lost sleep over That's the problem But there is this moment Where I'm like Man I really, I'm kind of curious. Like, I wish like I could just do something super, super heinous. Just to see how you react to it.

Just to see if I feel bad. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. You know. You'll be fucked up if this conversation comes out after you've done something really bad. No, I live in the straight and narrow. Maybe it's some shit in the past, but yeah, I live in the straight and narrow now. That's what I'm saying.

So like, embrace that. Don't be thinking about this. Bro, I live in. straight and narrow. Maybe it's some shit in the past, but I live in the straight and narrow now. That's what I'm saying. So embrace that. Don't be thinking about this. Don't even entertain those thoughts. You know what I fucking did after my fight? I didn't go chase pussy. I went fucking hat in and out with my girlfriend and watched a fucking baking championship after my last fight. A what championship?

A baking championship. Really? I watched a fucking baking fucking cook-off with my girlfriend, guys. That's perfect. I'm fucking boring. I don't do shit, you guys. Well, that's whatever. You probably have no energy after training no i'm fucking right as ryan dude are you kidding me no i i like boredom is my boredom is my achilles heels dude like

and that's why i isolate my i get this voice in my head dude and you see my press conferences i get this voice in my head and i think it's like I think the clinical term it's like antisocial personality conduct disorder so when you're a kid you have conduct disorder then it spirals and like antisocial personality disorder and it's like it's borderline sociopathic but one of the one of the big traits is a self control I have fucking no self-control dude well that's also a factor of getting hit in the head a lot but it it was like that when I was a kid. I get this voice in my head

and it tells me to fucking do something and then I like, it just sits there and I'm like, I'm doing it. I'm fucking doing it. I'm still in this car. I'm doing it.

Growing up with no guidance. Yeah. Growing up with fucked up family. Growing up with fucked up circumstances. That's why, dude, I isolate myself. Like, I'm mad. People are like,

oh yeah, show them. Like, do you want to go hang out? Go watch? No, fuck no, I don't. I want to sit at home, fucking maybe play a video game, get good food. That's good, though. That's good that you recognize that, that you don't want to put yourself in situations. Like, I can't say no.

I can't say fucking no to anything. Well, your life is going so well right now, too. It would be a fucking horrible shame if you fucked it up. Yeah, fuck, man. Because you gave in to the demons. Yeah, demons. No, dude, me and my demons are fucking buddies, dude. I always say it, dude.

I always say it. I'm not religious, obviously. But if God and the devil were real, the only person who's ever been there for me has been the devil. 100%. Out of my back 24-7. Again. 24-7. But it's true. You're going to get a bunch of DMs from Satananists now but it's true like but you gotta think about it like like evil deeds have been my friend like when i was again when

i was a kid and i had to do fucked up shit hit my dad with guitar like i had to like you know become a sociopath i had to like turn shut sorenters man the devil man 24 7 have my back 24 7 made me made me have like moral fluidity like i could do bad things now and i could not not feel fucking terrible about it yeah are you happy with that though do you like that or do you wish you were a better person you know it is dude i again i'm not a bad person i for the most part like i hold doors for old ladies like i right i. I'm a pretty decent human being. It's just evolution, bro. It's like evolution of being a sociopath.

It's like it's a purpose. When you go like, and this is where like, this is where like it was hard for me to understand. And you don't, you know, you don't even know this until you get older. But like I evolved. My brain, my brain thought the world was different. And then all of a sudden you become an adult and you're like, the way my brain formed and grew up isn't the way the world is. Like my brain trained me that the world's brutal.

It's harsh. You're a victim. You have to be a predator. You have to be a bully. You have to hurt people. You have to crave power. You have to want sex. And then you turn to an adult and you're like you're like oh man that's not how life is but don't you think that you continue to evolve if you evolve past that don't you think you continue to once you

once your base brain like you could you could slowly change like you could brainwash yourself to think fucking i'm a chicken if i if I slowly go through the process of brainwashing myself. But once those foundations are set, dude, it's hard to unset them. Have you ever done psychedelics? No, no. Nothing? Drugs scare me, dude. Drugs do.

I mean, I'm a dick. Like, fucking look at me, dude. Uh-huh. Coffees, black rifles. Yeah, fucking yeah, man. I like what you said about the, he was telling me about the Rittenhouse thing, man. Thanks for clearing that up. Because I used to not drink this shit.

I used to not drink this shit. Well, yeah, they got a real bad fucking rap because a lot of right wing people did the dumb shit that left wing people did. Yeah, so I'm not. They turned on him for no reason. They were wrong. And they weren't like turning their back on Rittenhouse. They just factually said they don't because everyone was saying

they sponsored Kyle Rittenhouse and gave him a t-shirt to wear when he got out of jail so that being said dude don't fucking trust the media right even me I was like

fuck Black Rifle I even said that I was like fuck those guys are the salt of the earth I had a hat from them they gave me a bunch of free shit once

and like now I can go back to wearing their fucking hat yeah wear their hat they're good dudes I know them very well Evan Hafer I hunt with him every year. We go elk hunting together.

Yeah, so fucking from the horse's mouth itself, you guys, they didn't fucking, you know, just miscommunication. No, they're about as right-wing and pro-America as you get. Yeah, Kyle Redden is a fucking dork though, right? Fucking 80. I was a kid. 17-year-old kid. Bro, that was a point though, dude.

Did you watch that video? Yeah. You want to talk about a man who fucking sits there in his underwear all day and practices reloads. Right. Bro, he even hit the slide. I don't know what it's called. You know the little butt on the AR-15 that no one even knows why it's there? The motherfucker even hit that once he put the mat or once he...

Fucking nuts, dude. He knows how to use her gun. I mean, he was being hired to go in to protect one of the businesses they were worried about being burnt down oh he was hired to do that yeah man it was his friends yeah i thought he was just like a white kid that wanted to be here no no it was an indian family that owned i think it was a car dealership and they were worried about their car dealership getting burnt down, so they asked him to come and help. No shit. So when they say, oh, he drove across state lines.

Yeah, he drove 15 minutes away. It was 15 minutes away. He drove to help his friends, and he went there because they were worried about their businesses being looted. You know, obviously, who the fuck is sending a 17-year-old with an AR to go and guard a business? It sounds insane. You watch that guy on the subway fucking choke that dude out? Yeah, I need to see the whole video.

I need to see like how long he held that choke because if the guy, you can't hold a choke for a minute. So me and me, I'm the same way. I'm generally like

on the Republican leaning side where I'm like, yeah, like, you know, I thought the cop that killed George Floyd

was guilty. I thought that, I think that like, I think George Floyd was probably a royal fucking piece of shit. I don't think we should put statues in... What happened? I don't think we should put statues in his honor, but... In your custody, in your care...

Yeah. And the fact that man's like, hey, I'm fucking dying, and you're just like... Right. My wife's fucking the neighbor. I don't care. I'm gonna hold this joke till I feel better. Right. So I think that guy was guilty.

But yeah, that guy on the subway, dude, 100%. You can't like... Yeah, but the guy was threatening people. And the guy had a long history of assaults and crime. But I mean, dude, you do jujitsu. Like how long do you hold a choke to kill a man? Well, I do jujitsu though. I wouldn't have done that.

Yeah. I would have just... Once I got the guy's back, I would have just held on to it and just not squoze his fucking neck. I hope he gets off. I hope he gets... Again, again, the guy was. But I don't know what happened. So the guy was just. Did the guy die from asphyxiation or did the guy have a heart attack because he was on drugs?

Because this was the thing that they said about George Floyd is that he was going to die of a fentanyl overdose anyway. I don't know if that's true, but I don't know what the case is with this guy. But I do know that there was another guy who was holding him down that was a black guy that they conveniently left out of all these outrage articles. Yeah. And they tried to make it a white on black thing. Yeah. I'd be curious. I'd be curious if I will say one thing. If it wasn't fentanyl, he died of the 100 percent guilty. You can't you can't hold a choke for no you can't hold a choke. But it's also like some people don't know that they don't all look. Anybody can teach you how to do that. That's not hard to do.

It's not like doing a wheel kick. It's like a very easy movement for your body to do. Every fucking kid, when I was a boy, when we would watch pro wrestling, they knew a sleeper hold. Everybody knew it. So it's like if he doesn't know any better and he doesn't know that you can't hold on to a choke because he's not trained. I know he was a Marine, but how much –

They don't teach you shit. They don't teach you shit. So who the fuck knows how much this guy actually knew? When I'm looking at the way he was squeezing the neck, it didn't look like he knew what he was doing. Yeah, I know. You know what's fucked up, though, dude? None of this cool shit ever happens to me, you guys.

I walk around the earth all day long like you're just waiting for it. I'm like fucking – I don't think – I think people would recognize there's something off about this guy. Maybe I'm going to go to the next car. Bro actually i actually almost killed a guy once what happened gun to the head gun to the head uh fucking yeah i fucking thank god i didn't pull the trigger i was at a fucking party dude and you know some again me being an asshole my buddy goes to grab me and i fucking hip toss him and he puts a hole in the wall so i'm like i'm like night I'm 19 I think I was going through a pretty big pretty bad court case at the time so I was already like facing two felonies on on a parole or I was on bail sorry and uh fucking the girl girlfriend comes downstairs said you gotta leave and I'm like you know all right woman like my bad

I fucked up like hey he's your friend I don't even know you guys I was invited or he attacked me he's my buddy but fuck it so anyways as i'm walking to the door she comes down again she says my boyfriend's upstairs and like you got to pay for the wall too and like she had this look dude she had this look like kind of like scared you know so me being a fucking you know fucked up sociopath like oh i gotta hurt somebody i'm like well if he wants to pay for the wall he can come fucking suck my dick and earn the money next thing i know dude he comes out and says fucking shotgun fucking racks it right to my fucking head and mind you dude guys if somebody wants to kill you generally you're dead like if somebody puts a gun on you and you don't get the fucking and you don't get plugged right off the back there's a chance you're gonna walk out of that one so you should

probably just do what they say. So anyways, I put my hands up, and I'm, like, begging. I'm like, dude, please, no, man. Don't fucking shoot me, dude. I'm so fucking sorry. I just want to leave. I want to leave. And then all of a sudden, I grab the gun, just fucking start slamming his head

to the wall. Boom. Fucking falls down, even in the face. Take the shotgun, point at his head. I shit you not, dude, right when I'm about to pull the trigger, his girlfriend jumps on top of him and starts crying and like begging for his life. So you were going to pull the trigger. Fuck yeah.

But like, but then it's like, it's not that, but no, the problem, the problem was like, the problem was the only way I wouldn't have done it. Like, that's a hard case to beat. That's a hard case. Like you have the gun, he's defenseless. Like, oh, it's a hard case to beat. Yeah, you ain't beating that case. Ah, fuck.

I mean, maybe. Maybe. I say I felt threatened. I don't know. But the problem was I was also fucking fined two felony GBIs. Not good. Yeah, man. Fucking A, dude.

But yeah, I was going to be my first confirmed kill, you guys. I was kind of sad it never happened. Well, I'm glad. Come on, dude. You got to want to smoke somebody. You probably carry a gun. You got to. There has to be a. Come on, you gotta want to smoke somebody. You probably carry a gun. There has to be a time in your life you fucking wanted. I would like to go to my grave without ever

killing anybody. Why? Why? Are you religious? Because I don't want to be involved in that. Let's just say you get one free pass. Someone's son. Raise your son not to be a fucking asshole. Listen to you, man. But listen to things That happen in your life

And think about people That have had worse things Happen to them I would rather go through life With minimal conflict That's how I started Fighting again Is my dad arrested

So I was I mean fucking I'm just rambling It's probably my time To wrap this bitch up But Just rambling on About my fucking life

Hey what else Would you guys like to know I lost my virginity Yeah He doesn't count though just rambling on about my fucking life. Hey, what else would you guys like to know? I lost my virginity. He doesn't count though. It wasn't, it wasn't consensual, but, but, uh, yeah, no, fuck man. I got arrested when I was, uh, like 18. But prior to that, I was like, dude, my life sucks.

I'm sleeping on a gym. Have you ever slept on a mat? You guys, it's really hard on the shoulders, right? You on a mat usually it just kills your shoulders yeah it's not good after like about a fucking month of sleeping on a mat i was like fuck my life this sucks i don't want to be fighting anymore so i go to arm recruiter i'm like hey man you guys are supposed to be easy to get into i don't have a high school diploma how do i join you guys he's like well all you need is 15 college credits and then you could blah blah blah sign up for this and you could get in so i'm like sweet 15 college credits that's only like a couple semesters or semester so i go sign up at a community college get my credits

the night i go to a party and then that little voice in my head a little voice in my head that tells me to fucking do something bad fucking comes in my head and i fucking hurt two people i'd go get surgery so facing two felony gbis i had to pay my lawyer had to pay my bail mint bail bondsman and then king of the cage uh hit me up and like hey we have a fight in south africa in like two weeks you want to go and i'm like fuck yeah i'm about to go back to jail right now i need money fuck yes Fuck yes, I have to pay my bail bondsman. So, yeah, I fucking went and took a short notice flight at South Africa, and here we are with the Joe Rogan.

Wow. Life, dude, strange, right? It is strange. You ever been arrested, Joe? No. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. It's fair?

That's fair. Well, I mean, you know, you can always, like, tell, like, I don't know, you just paint a picture of a man. Like, you know, there's always, like, tell, like, I don't know, you just paint a picture of a man. Like, you don't, there's not really much about you, Joe. Like, you're just Joe Rogan, the podcast man that believes in aliens and does drugs. Like, we don't really know what makes Joe Rogan tick. I mean, you know, Fairfax was awesome. I watched that shit all the time when I was a fucking kid.

She was fucking awesome. But what makes me tick is obviously very different than what makes you tick. Yeah. We're finding that out today. But you got to ask yourself. I want you to embrace that you're a better person than you were then. It seems like you kind of like fall back on this I'm a piece of shit thing. It's almost like you use that as like a little bit of a shield. Yeah, fuck yeah.

Yeah. You don't have to do that. Because I don't think you are a piece of shit. I don't think you are a piece of shit. But it's also society. What does society allow? i think you hold on to that a little too much okay let me tell you something let me tell you something okay let me tell you this how i look at it okay let's just say you believe in god let's just say okay joe rogan the christian if he's muslim this conversation go very differently but we'll go we'll go okay so society allows you to be a decent human being but let's just say in your heart in your heart of hearts right you're fucking the world ends and your fucking family's

hungry and you go fucking kill your neighbor and feed them to your family i'm assuming you would do that right if it came to you and your kids that's the plot of every apocalypse movie i agree so you would do that. So if society is allowing you to be a decent human being, yet you were not a decent human being because you would do this if the situation had arised, are you a decent human being with who you are?

I think you have to take into consideration all the experiences that you've had in your life. And I don't think it's as simple as are you a good human being or are you a bad human being? Here's the thing. Are you a better human being than you used to be? 100%. Did you get through one of the most horrific childhood stories that I've ever had anybody talk about? 100%. And you can't expect someone to come out of that and be a monk. You can't expect that.

Just the sheer amount of trauma that you've experienced, like you were talking about PTSD, 100% you've got that. Yeah. 100%. The sheer amount of trauma. And I think you hold the I'm a piece of shit

and you hold that up as a shield to sort of protect yourself and give yourself like a way out of this. You know what it is too, man? I have such little, like I have such little respect for humanity. And this sounds like, again, I love life. I'm happy. I have good friends. My girlfriend's amazing.

Right, but you don't have, you have respect for some aspects of humanity. You have respect for some people. But you have respect for some people. Some people don't suck. Curtis doesn't suck. Your friends don't suck. I almost broke up with my girlfriend once. I shit you not, dude. I'm still fucking mad at her, dude dude. I still fucking mad at her,

dude. So fucking mad at her. We're walking. And I was like, but I want to get to know you a little better. I want to get to know you a little better. I was like, what would have happened if I were to kill somebody?

She said, I'll call the cops. And I was like, you have a magic wand and you can make it go away. Guy's still fucking dead. Fucking kids are still orphan, but you can make it go away. Would you,

would you wave your fucking wand? She's i'd put you in jail well she's a girl first of all a you're not supposed to ask those questions bro it was like you're painting a scenario that's impossible it was like a week it was like a fucking week of me and her like mad at her and she's then she's mad at me she's like you really gonna leave me for that i'm like babe like i'm not saying this could happen but like, like, okay, for instance, I use this scenario. We were walking. We were fucking. And I was like, babe, like, you need to understand.

This could happen. Chris Curtis is fighting in fucking, I don't know where it was, Florida. And there's this homeless guy walking. And then Chris Curtis and Chris Curtis's wife or girlfriend, whatever the fuck she is, right? Baby's mama, whatever you want to call her, is walking. And this homeless guy on drugs veers off and starts following him. We're probably like 20 yards behind him. And they start walking in this alleyway.

I mean, clearly, dude, if you were there, the guy's fucking following them. And me, being a sociopath, I'm like, I'm going to kill this motherfucker right now. We're in a dark alleyway. I'm going to spike this motherfucker's head on the ground, and we're going to fucking just be on our merry way. And we have two attractive women to be our witnesses. So I fucking, I'm walking. All of a sudden, Kurt sees and starts running at him. And I'm like, Kurt, what the fuck, dude?

Like, we were about to fucking kill this guy. And now I'm thinking, now I'm starting to think I'm a piece of shit. I'm like, dude, now I'm starting to think, man, did you just use your woman as bait to kill a man? Because I'm thinking everything is fine. Everything is fine. He's probably just a crazy motherfucker. He's probably just going to go grab their ass and then give me an excuse to spike his fucking head on the ground. So I'm really mad at Chris Curtis now.

I'm like, you motherfucker, dude. You've ruined this. You've ruined our opportunity. But anyway. But that's also easy to say when it didn't happen. Yeah, yeah. now i'm like you motherfucker dude you've ruined this you've ruined our opportunity but anyway but that's also easy to say when it didn't happen yeah yeah but i mean again in my brain it's like dude you like but you you you keep saying you hate humanity but you don't well i don't hate no i just you love some people i know what we are but you love quality people the problem is you just don't have a wealth of them in your life and you haven't had a wealth of them in your life you've

had a very small number of them that you only met once you started fighting so i gave my girl that story and she was like i was like that's what i'm saying babe like there's a situation where this could happen i might need you to embellish the truth but that's that's not even embellishing that's self-defense if someone actually does attack your girl but it was like you know i would have it would have been pushed but yeah anyways That's the most justifiable thing ever. I mean, what would you do, man? Your wife? 100% I'd do what you just said. No, no, no. What if your wife does something just fucked up?

What if she has like, I don't know, I'm trying to think of a scenario. What if she fucking shoots the mailman on accident and you can make a wand and make it go away? Would you do it? That's a good question. Good question. Fuck yeah, you'd do it. Yeah.

Yeah, you'd do it. Yeah. so does that make you a decent human being well there's sometimes people make compromises and sometimes people have to make very difficult choices doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad human being but it's not a good choice it's not a good situation to be in either i'd hide the body go get a sawzall and fucking just fucking do something with it. Vegas is big, man. A lot of fucking desert. Oh, man. How many holes are out in that desert? Fuck. That was hilarious. Like when Lake Mead started shrinking and they started finding all these bodies.

Fuck, dude. They found a ton of bodies in fucking oil drums and shit. Fuck, dude. I cannot imagine. I was on a hike the other day in Vegas. My chick likes to... I hate fucking hiking, dude. Fucking hiking. You like to hike? Well, you like to go hunt shit. I could do that. Like, you want to go grab a gun and walk through the... I could go do that, man.

But just, like, wandering through the fucking desert. I'm like, oh, there's a fucking rock. There's a fucking... Some people do it because they need to get out in nature and they just like to get a little exercise. Men only hike, dude, because in the back of our brains, we think there's going to be a waterfall with fucking naked women underneath it that's the only reason good luck finding that in vegas

and the moment yeah yeah and the moment you realize there's no waterfall with fucking pussy underneath it you're gonna be like why the fuck am i doing this some people like hiking they didn't grow up like you fuck if you come who like dude you just it's the same shit over over Yeah, but it's a peaceful thing for some people. They just like that. Yeah And you fucking do DMT and lame but it's thanks and shit. You're a fucking hippie Yeah, I am a little bit of a hippie, but it's different people man different people They come from different walks of life different circumstances, and they have I don't think you're a bad guy Sean No, I think I think you use that as a little bit of a crutch. I mean, it's nice.

But I do know that if someone did fuck with you, you would spike them on the head. Yeah, fuck it. That too. Well, the shitty thing is as we talk about this, it's going to be a really hard case for me to fucking beat. Right, if something happened. This is going to be fucking used as court. For sure. What I'm saying, you guys, I just recently found Jesus Christ.

That's the move. Bro, you know, it's funny. Speaking of religion. So I make fun of fucking everybody, Jews and Muslims, everybody. But Muslims are fucking nuts, dude. They get very, very, very, very upset if you talk any shit about Islam.

So there was a guy named Albert Derov. And we have a lot of Muslims at the gym. And I fucking love these guys, dude. They're fucking solid motherfuckers so one day albert durov i mean i would go hard on muhammad like everything that you weren't supposed to do i'm like well let me show you this doodle oh jesus christ hey twitter check this out right i don't give a fuck it's america so one day fucking you know albert durov comes up to me and he was like hey sean could i talk to you i thought he was gonna show me a move albert

durov is a great wrestler so i'm like all right sure i'll be your wrestling dummy for all these little muslims come in the cage and they're like and i go to like get on like like what we didn't guard what position we in here albert he's like no no no no sit sit sit down sit down sean like oh fuck me puts his hand on my leg muslims dude you're super touchy-feelsy i mean it's so fucking weird man like fucking even even in a bunch of muslim guys here it's like fucking it's it's a friendly super friendly guys super fucking friendly it's so odd especially because of religion so he's like sean sean sean in my country i cannot be friends with you i'm like what are you fucking talking about he's like, Sean, Sean, Sean, in my country, I cannot be friends with you.

I'm like, what are you fucking talking about? He's like, you say things about Islam. Like pretty much saying that like I cannot be friends with you because what you say about Islam. Right. I've never, I mean, I make fun of Jews, Christians, fucking Scientologists, fucking, you know, I make fun of everybody. Right. So after that, they fucking, after he caressed crest my leg and rub my head a little bit. I was like, fuck it, dude.

I'm going to lay off Islam. So Albert Durov is why I fucking, you know, I give Islam a fucking pass, which makes me a sellout. No, it doesn't. I like it. Listen, man, there's fights that you should pick, and it's not necessary. Also, it's like that belief system helps people, keeps them disciplined, keeps them on a good path. I mean, how many great fighters are devout Muslims? It's a pretty high percentage.

I mean, it's one of the most popular religions in the world. Yeah. It's one of the most popular religions in the world, but it's also a religion that embraces discipline. Yeah. 100%. I mean, you go through Ramadan. You're not eating all day. You're not drinking any water all day

I mean the fact that guys But it's also not really compatible with American values It's not compatible with some aspects of American values Especially when it comes to women, gay rights Things along those lines Well I mean it sounds reasonable to me There is a God And God in his rightful wisdom

You know as he created the earth And he created the people He said these fucking whores we need to cover this up. I mean, that sounds fucking reasonable to me. I mean, I just said I don't want women working. Maybe I'm a fucking Muslim, you guys. I like pork, though. God damn it.

Well, you said you don't want women working because you recognize the importance of a mother's role. It is a job. It's just not a job that pays money. Because of that, it doesn't get doesn't get supported it's the the fact that raising a kid is a fucking insanely difficult proposition and the fact that we expect people to rate three we expect expect people to raise kids while they also are doing you know a job a fucking eight hour a day job and then commuting and being exhausted your mom worked my mom worked yeah okay what did your guy ask for your mom my mom was a secretary okay

what'd your stepdad do he was an architect oh fuck okay that's funny so you you and you were well he went through school when i was a kid so like we were poor when when i was young we were very poor welfare food stamps the whole deal and then as I was in high school, he started making money. How old are you when you're like, hey, I want to be a comedian? 21. 21? Yeah. Did you go to college?

You think about doing stand-up? No. I think you do a little bit. Oh, fuck you. I don't try to be funny. I just am retarded. Yeah. Well, gym funny is a funny kind of funny.

Like, that's how I got into comedy. Oh, yeah. By making people laugh in the gym. It's locker room talk on steroids. Locker room talk on steroids. Also, there's like, it's gallows talk, too, because everyone's sparring. There's a lot of nerves. Yeah.

It's easy to crack the ice. It's fun. Oh, man. Dominic Cruz has a fucking weird gym. I mean, you should read Dominic Cruz. Alliance? Yeah, yeah, Alliance. Yeah.

I mean, he's also in a cult, by the way. Khalil Rowntree's in a cult, too. What do you mean? They're in a cult? Yeah, they're like in a weird fucking cult. I mean, you can treat him like Dominic Cruz. Alliance? Yeah, Alliance. I mean, he's also in a cult, by the way. Khalil Rowntree's in a cult, too. What do you mean? They're in a cult? Yeah, they're like in a weird fucking cult. What cult? I can't stand Khalil Rowntree.

What? I love that guy. God, this fucking, he just, because he doesn't know these people intimately. Well, I love him talking to him. Has he been on the podcast?

I enjoy talking to him a couple times, yeah. He's a dirty fucking feminist. What? Like, I'll tell you a story. I can't stand this fucking guy. You guys like, you seem to not like most people. don't like you and chris curtis against the world well i'll tell you why i'll tell you why so i used to run a wrestling class at a gym i was at

and somebody invited round trim like god damn it why'd you invite this guy he's just a fucking pussy so we're training right and guys i give some good speeches i get some good fucking i get some good hot raw raw speeches so i'm like when you guys are wrestling you got to pick the fucking baddest motherfucker and you got to go with them and if i see you going real krill around tree i know that's not what you fucking did you're being a pussy so i said that speech as like a raw raw moment for khalil to be, fuck you, Sean. I'll show you. I'm gonna show you fucking what's up. And I thought it was gonna make him step up and fuck me up. But instead he stormed off the mat. He just fucking walked off

the mat. And he was like, Sean, I don't respect you. I don't like you. I'm like, yeah, because you're a fucking feminist pussy in a cult. So what cult do you keep saying cult? So there's like this weird like Las Vegas like I think I don't quote me on this, dude. I heard somebody was telling me Dominic Cruz was in it, but I don't want to fucking, Dominic

Cruz did fuck a chick I was into when I was like 16. So I'm so salty at him. Like, you know, like, like, bro, like the hottest, like, you know, the hottest, I think she became a stripper. When you were 16, you're still holding a grudge. I was like 17. I was like 17. Oh, that's hilarious. And it was holding a grudge. I was like 17. I was like 17. Oh, that's hilarious.

And it was like, you know like that one when you- Half your life ago. You know when you get the hottest piece of ass ever? I'm like a kid, dude. And this girl, she's a little older than me. She's like a little model. I'm like the fucking best piece of ass I've ever gotten in my life. Sex with her on the beach at Laguna.

It was awesome, right? It's actually kind of funny. I was having sex with her on a beach. And there was like a fish run. All of a sudden, I'm having sex with her. And there, and there was like a fish run. I'm having sex with her, and there's just camera flashes all down the beach. And yes, I did not stop. But continue.

Back to my story. So I'm so salty because later in life, I mean, he's on his road to being a fucking champ. He might have been a champ at the time. So she went over there and started fucking him. What is this cult thing that you keep talking about? Let me say it. But they laid in bed. She was like, he's such a,

I'm so, I hate myself for knowing this. I hate my, but I'm going to tell you guys. I'm like, I know you guys need to know it because she has such a weirdo. He just lays in bed and watches fucking fight videos and plays with the cats all day. And I'm like,

well, fucking a man. That's how you become great. That's how you become great. That's why I'm not fucking you anymore. But I got to start watching. What does that have to do with being in a cult? So anyways fast forward I just want to tell you the fucking story. Sorry. Yeah, this is good This is fucking your fans like fighting. Yeah, you guys know Dominic is the fucking weirdo and he stole my chick

Fucking dweeb right fuck him. I love that dude, too She really liked Dominic. He's awesome. I I talked to him every time I do like pre fight media. He's there I love Dominic. He's awesome. I talk to him every time I do pre-fight media. He's there. I love Dominic. He's like, fuck you, dude. Anyway, so there's this weird church. It's like a self-help cult. And one day Khalil came and took somebody out of training.

And I was like, oh, I don't want to. The kid didn't want to fucking go. Chris Curtis is the witness to this. And the kid didn't want to go. And it was kind of like a weird abduction situation. Yeah, he's like in a self-help weird group. But no, no, you guys, let me tell you guys about Khalil. If you knew him on a personal level, you would fucking hate him,

unless you're a dirty feminist. There is this girl named Alina. Alina, she's a PFL girl. This is a true story about Khalil. Let me tell you why I hate Khalil. Tell me why. Alina, PFLfl girl shaved her head and kind of looks like a man now but you know whatever you know she had to make weight i guess

so alina dude she's like fucking 5 10 big dude she's big dude like she's like like she's big dude she's not like she's not a sexual predator i mean she looks like she could be a sexual predator so khalil roundtree is showing somebody a move and she walks up to to alina a ukrainian girl and like puts her like in a move and the ukrainian girl who looks like a fucking i mean dude she looks like you guys google anyways she's like oh sexual harassment but she said it jokingly and like if you see her it's it's funny right and roundtree's like that is not funny. I'm a black man in America.

You cannot even joke about that. And we're all like, black guys, white guys, we're all sitting like, dude, Cliff, what the fuck is your problem, bro? Like, it's a joke, man. But, yeah, he's just a fucking girl, dude. Like, on a personal level, you guys don't want to hang out with that fucking guy. Okay. I like him. Oh, yeah, you like him. I enjoy talking like him. Oh, yeah, you like him. I enjoy talking to him.

Well, yeah, you- But I'm not in that situation with him. Yeah, you were going to tell him- But you're also very- You're going to tell him that you don't want transgenders in the sport, and next thing you know, he's going to fucking accuse you of touching him under the desk. Really? No, I mean, he's a feminist, dude.

Is he like a self-proclaimed feminist? Yeah, like he's just like- I think people say things like that sometimes Because they think it's a good thing to say I'm going to tell you guys another insight No, it's great, it's great Because the guy's not here to defend himself No, this is factual

I was hitting on a chick once And he ended up dating this chick So this is before I knew Khalil kind of sucked And I go, yo Khalil You salty motherfucker, man I was talking to that girl and you I go yo Khalil like you salty motherfucker man I was talking to that girl and like you ended up snagging her up like you motherfucker I'm jealous right he goes to the PI and I guess this is after they broke up so I thought like a couple years past it would be funny now if I tell him that like you know I was you fucking snagged her from me

right and a couple years pass and I tell him this and he goes to the PI, and he files a complaint in the performance institute that I brought this up, and I made him feel, like, uncomfortable or sad. Oh, Jesus. And the guy at the time around the PI, he had it come up to me. He was like, yeah, man, Sean, I got to tell you this. Like, you know, I can't tell you who it was. And I'm like, dude, it was funny. Like, everybody in the physical therapy team was laughing. Like, it was fucking funny.

It wasn't bad. But yeah, I don't know. So yeah, you're right. Clue's a great guy, guys. Fuck yeah. I love Clue. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying.

It's like your sense of humor with a sensitive person could create real problems. But I didn't know that people, people like make formal complaints at the ultimate fighting championship performance institute that's what i'm saying then mind you i went crazy i even asked the pt team i'm like guys that i'd like because you know so i'm an asshole and i say a lot of crazy shit i'm like did i go overboard yeah sometimes khalil's a very sensitive guy and i think you know he's gone through these journeys where he's all in and shut up and then not all in and fighting that was actually really funny by the, when he told his mom to shut up when she was like coaching him.

He like looked over, shut up, mom. Oh, did he? He didn't see that? He was like mid-fight, bro. He like told his mom, shut up, mom. That is distracting for your mom screaming. Was it at the Apex Center? Oh, fuck.

No, I think it was like a big fight. Oh. Yeah, yeah. Fuck me, dude. But yeah, I guess I'm just a cunt, dude. There also is that, you guys. You're just, listen, I like you, but I get people like you. I've been around people like you my whole life.

I get it. I know what it's like. You know, there's a lot of people like you out there in the world. It's like as long as you understand what a person like you has been through and who you are, it's fun. I mean, Khalil, again, the thing about Khalil. I think you make life a little more fun. Khalil might be the first trans female athlete in the UFC. Jesus Christ, stop it. He's already fucking sensitive.

That's one thing that I'm happy the UFC would never allow. Oh, dude, every time I go on the news, I think Joe Rogan's a big egg hating on the trans community. What the fuck is going on with people allowing biological men to compete against women? I mean, out of all the sensitive shit, I'm a pretty sensitive

person. I'm pretty open-minded, but gotta like somebody sent me like a video of a guy in a dress with a hard-on in a bathroom have you seen that video taking photos have you ever trained with a woman have you ever like trained so you know gabby garcia that sure i trained with her once and i was like and i was like fuck before we trained i was like told the coach, like, dude, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? Dude, she's bigger than me. She's huge. And I was like, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? And she's on all the Mexican supplements.

Yeah, dude, no. Her fucking clit is probably bigger than this fucking can. You know? I'm like, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? And he starts laughing. I'm rolling with her. And then she was just weak. Like, she just felt like a fat chick.

Yeah. And after that, I was like, oh, fuck. Yeah. There's a weird thing going on in this culture with gender. And it's not good. You know what it is? It's not good. I don't see it.

There's no more battles, man. There's women are working. There's no more racism. I mean, there's still racism, but, you know, it's equality. Like people just need something to fight over. Well, it's also an easy way where you can become special. I mean, the New Jersey just said that there was a 4,000% increase in kids identifying as non-binary. First of all, what the fuck does that even mean? And allowing someone to

say they're non-binary to me is like, listen, you don't have to embrace masculinity and you don't have to embrace femininity. You don't have to, but And you don't have to embrace femininity You don't have to But you got a dick or you got a vagina Yes, I mean, we're just We're making people special with no effort And if you just say you're a they and a them And everybody has to say that

And if they don't say that, you can yell at them Which is what, you know I'm surprised you don't tell the line, dude I'm shocked that you take that opinion Fuck that line Fuck that line Because that's crazy. This line, the line of biological males competing against females, that's the line.

This is a true story, man. And again, like, the guy in the hair room, fucking Sean, the storyteller, fucking, I was at Team Quest and there was a fucking, a transgender, fuck, I don't know what the fuck you'd call him. A woman? Male or woman? It was a fucking, he had a dick and he wore a dress. Okay. So, you know, whatever the fuck you'd call him a woman male or woman it was a fucking he had a dick

and he wore a dress okay so you know whatever the fuck you'd call him and this fucking guy dude he would go spar

and my girlfriend my ex-girlfriend at the time would go spar these women and like break their fucking noses and like

and like fuck them up and like there's a lot of that there's a lot of that or like they would go fucking he would go in the locker room

he has a family he had you know later on in transition he had a fucking family go in the locker room you know my girlfriend their big titties am i actually the big titties hanging out right and they're walking around their dick hanging oh i'd fuck i'd fuck him up it's crazy it's crazy that first of all there's a thing called autogynephilia it's a real thing and it's a thing where there's a fetish where men get sexually aroused by pretending that their women are dressing up like women, but they want to fuck women. Yeah.

And so they're heterosexual. So they want to have sex with females, but they identify as a female for this kink. And, you know, there's also trans people that for whatever reason, nature threw them a curveball. They're in the wrong body. Yeah, but- But you can't fucking compete against women. Yeah, but man, I'll tell you what- It's not fair in any way, shape, or form.

Every now and then you'll meet kids, right? And like, masculine father. And you're like, oh man, that kid's gonna be gay for sure. Like, you meet kids, dude, and they already got the lisp. It's like, dude, you're like fucking 10 years old and your dad's in the military. Yeah, but gay is normal. Gay is just nature. So that's another thing, dude.

I'm pro. Like, I'm pro. Like, if you're a dude, if you're a dude and you want to suck a dick, go suck that dick, dude. Suck all the dick. I know. You said that about if you had a kid. I thought that was hilarious. Don't get me wrong.

If I have a kid and I think he's gay, I'm going to do everything I can to make this kid not fucking gay. I might even take him to therapy. If he has a list and starts walking around like this, dude, I don't want to fucking gay as a kid. But that's reasonable. If you talk to gay dudes, you talk to gay dudes and gay dudes don't want to fucking gay as a kid but that's reasonable if you talk to gay dudes you talk to gay dudes and gay dudes don't want gays as a kid being gay is fucking hard man you gotta like yeah but if at some point my kid turns 18 he's like dad i like to suck dick i'm like kids suck all that dick you want get all in there get the white dick get the black dick get the yellow

dick all the dick dude yeah you know get a, get a boyfriend. Hopefully I like him. It'll be an interesting Thanksgiving. Well, this is the weird thing about this whole LGBTQ, like, coalition, like a group of people all connected together. Because a lot of my friends who are gay, they don't like what's going on with this movement because they think that a lot of people who just would be gay are getting convinced into becoming trans they're getting convinced into becoming that they're they're they're they really are you know we're losing right you know you know we're gonna lose this fight i don't know about that oh we're gonna lose this fight for sure you know what does that mean so it's like you gotta understand we're gonna they're gonna look back at us as like like we're going to be the old racist white guy. We're going to be the old racist white guy on the porch saying,

I remember my day when fucking black people couldn't go to school. That's how we're going to be viewed. I remember my day when chicks had vaginas and dudes had dicks. Eventually, this is what the system wants. This is what the system gets. I don't think the system wants anything. I don't think that's what's going on. I think there's what the system wants. This is what the system gets. I don't think the system wants anything. I don't think that's what's going on. I think there's what I said earlier.

I think there's an out. And I think there's also a lot of people that are teaching school that don't have children of their own. And that also they get social value and social brownie points for embracing gender ideology. Because it's the like. But how many generations until we lose how many generations until depends on what happens one one thing that well this is this is the question are we at the fall of an empire because if we are at the fall of an empire i've talked about this before but douglas murray who's his british intellectual who's also gay by the way he says

that at the end of every empire they become become obsessed with gender. And that is one very weird thing that I never saw coming. If you came to me just fucking 10 years ago and said that gender and transgender ideology would be the thing that the president would be talking, he'd be sitting there with Dylan Mulvaney getting interviewed. Day 365 of womanhood. Imagine. That's like fighting in the UFC you started training a year ago. You're interviewing the fucking president? You've only been a woman a year?

What about all these other actual biological women that are running around that have been a woman their whole life? And you get in only because you're... You could be a woman of the year and not have a dick, bro. Exactly. There's a reason why men are better than women. Look, we even make fucking better women. Well, Caitlyn Jenner was like woman of the year six months into being a woman. The whole thing is nuts.

And it's, again, it is a way where people become special without doing any work at all. But I'm saying your kids' kids will. Maybe. I don't know. I think it's turning around. I think people are pushing back against it now because they're realizing how fucking insane it is. But there's certain people that are just lost in the trance and they're just pushing it. Are these people like, are they 14 year olds?

Are they kids? No, they're adults. But yeah, but young kids too. I see it with young kids today too. There's a lot of young kids that are pushing back against this. Oh man. I mean, I remember, dude, I remember when I was a fucking kid, dude, it wasn't like when I was a kid, there were still hate crimes against gays.

Like, I mean, I'm 32, you guys. So like, it was fucking weird. I mean, I remember. I kid, there were still hate crimes against gays. I'm 32, you guys, so it was fucking weird. I'm sure there's still hate crimes against gays today. Again, there's hate crimes against gays. There's always shit, but it was common practice. It was like, we bullied the fuck out of gays. I remember there was one kid, I wrote,

he wouldn't let me cut in the lunch line. I mean, my buddy literally pinned him against the wall and wrote fag on his white shirt and ended up being gay. Crazy progress, man. Progress in the last line i mean my buddy literally pinned him against the wrong real fag on his white shirt and then being gay like a crazy progress man progress in the last 10 years and again i'm like you guys i was an angry hateful fucking kid you know like like i if i could go back i'd fucking wave my wand and what the fucking happened you know do i feel bad probably not but i was an angry cause and effect but man the amount of progress that happened for the gays in such a short period of time wild yeah and you know i think a lot of people think that amount of progress has happened for the trans movement too but i think what has to happen is things go too far and then they even

out and then we for what's really going to be a fucking long string of lawsuits which is 100 common is these detransitioners these people that were forced to transition or encouraged to transition when they were kids which is fucking insane when i hear people talking about hormone blockers being reversible like what but but what at what cost like what is going to happen like there's a lot of people out there that no longer can have children they don't have their penis anymore they don't have their ovaries, they don't have their ovaries anymore. You know what it is, dude? They cut their breasts off.

It's social media. I'll tell you what, social media is a fucking plague of the earth. Everybody wants to be special. Yes. And, you know, if you're, to transition, it's a way to be special, to support that, the way to be special.

And you immediately get love because of it. And it's a way to become special without putting in any work. If right now, if I like, if I put a fucking wig on and i said i mean look at all these navy seals that fucking cut their dick off or when next thing you know they become special how many navy seals are cutting their hair ever watch that one dude kristen beck yeah yeah he like on the podcast he threatened that he went back to being a man again he threatened that little jewish kid what's that little jim ben Ben Shapiro. Oh, that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bro, I would love if that shit happened to me. I'd be like, all right. I felt the same way. I never smacked a woman, but I'm going to count this as a woman. Yeah. That one was nuts, threatening him because he was saying that he's a man. Well, I mean, but what I'm saying though, it's like, dude, everybody wants to be special. Exactly.

I'm like pseudo famous. It's not weird. But you're becoming special through hard work. So you understand what it's like to be special. Everybody wants to be special, but they don't want to fucking – not everybody wants to work. And if there's a pathway for young kids, especially this generation where everybody wants a quick fix for everything, if there's an instantaneous pathway for you to become special, all you have to do is make your hair blue and say you're a they and you wear a dress to school. I got to ask something before we run out of time. Okay. What about affirmative action ending? How do you feel about that? I don't think that- Oh, CNN, it's either CNN's going to love you or hate you. No, no, no. Fuck CNN. I don't think that's the

solution. I don't think affirmative action is a solution. I think the solution is what we talked about earlier. Finding these impoverished crime-ridden communities, whether it's white people in Appalachia where they're all on fucking pills, or whether it's black people that live in Baltimore or Puerto Ricans that live in the Bronx, whatever the fuck it is, we have impoverished communities. We can't just leave them alone. We can't just let—that's where everything's fucked they should elevate the quality of education elevate the quality of life and it should

be a gigantic project that the whole country gets behind that's what I think is the way to fix things well I mean systematic oppression is a real thing it's a real thing on white people and black people yes like I always tell people man like it's actually kind of funny I got in a I got I got a shit storm because i said what's his name he's a d1 wrestler black guy

and i said he was like the one and i made fun of him for not being black what the fuck's his name phil haas i said like phil haas went and trained with me and like he was such a pussy like he was like he was like i was like hey man like you're a middleweight i'm a middleweight let's like bang a little bit he's like shawn are you sure are you you're a middleweight. I'm a middleweight. Let's, like, bang a little bit. He's like, Sean, are you sure? Are you sure you want to spar hard? I'm like, yeah, dude. Let's fucking fight. But, dude, you're an unusual guy.

You have to understand, like, just that alone. How many guys are, like, just banging all day for training? So, anyway, he quit. How many guys? I mean, I can't. Think about what your style is. But listen, my segue to that. Okay.

I used to train at a black gym at Millennia with Lorenz Larkin. One of my – Jonathan. Yeah. I mean, one guy had a fucking bullet. That's a great gym. Every time you would grab his arm, he'd be like, oh, you're moving my fucking bullet. He got shot in San Bernardino. So my experience of black people were like –

Hardcore. Hardcore. Like, I was the white – I was the fucking, like – like, when you get arrested, you guys, at least in California, whenever you get walked to your cell, they segregate the whites and the blacks and the Mexicans. Whites and Mexicans roll together. Blacks roll separate. They're segregated, at least in the county I was in. And, bro, you walk by this fucking cage. You walk by this cage, and you've got these black people.

And that's how kind of millennia reminds me. We've got these black people crowding the bars with their fucking big old beard like talking shit to you like i remember forget dude i got i got in my jail cell and there was a guy named spider and he's like laying down he's helping make my bed he's laying down the rules i'm like i told him i was like dude i'm not like i'm not racist dude like i don't hate anybody i told this guy this he's like yeah that's not how it works here. It's either you're with us or you're with nobody. And I start thinking about walking past that. Walking past that, you know,

black segregation. And I'm like, you know what, man? I'm going to have to put some thought on this, but I think I don't think I'm going to be getting tattoos anytime soon, but I think I might be riding with you guys. So anyways, that's kind of how millennia was. I'd walk in there and I'd fucking be like the little white kid with long hair.

And then I was like, Oh, you fucking, you know, the Tarzan powder. And I got the shit kicked out of me by his black guys. And I will forget this black guy comes up to me once. I should draw the Wilson.

I got the bull in his arm. He goes, Sean, it doesn't matter how nice you are to me. You could walk in here and fucking, you know, be nice to me. Ask me on my days.

I'm going to fuck you up regardless. And I was like and that's like kind of when it hit me like oh yeah like i gotta go in there i gotta get the big dick i gotta get the big black metaphorical dick you know i need those big old chocolate fucking nutsack so now i walk in there like you know fuck you wilson you guys ready to fuck and i started doing better i started becoming more of a presence so whenever i told that about uh phil haas everyone's like oh sean strickland's racist he thinks that all black people are ghetto and violent and you know in hindsight there is some truth to that because i did say that and that is kind of what i was implying but what i meant by that though is i like those people. To me, you are a fucking nerd.

You're this white person that I don't fucking like. I like the ghetto, the trashy, the boxers. Hardcore dudes. Yeah, I like the guys. We're like, yeah, fuck this guy. I like those guys. Guys who like to talk shit when they spar like you. So Phil took it as an insult, but to me it's like I was insulting you

because I respect those people. I don't respect you, Phil. I think you're a dirty fucking motherfucker i think you're a pussy i think you're privileged i think you have a d1 education i think you're a fucking bitch and then you know my boys back at millennia i love those fucking guys i fucking love those guys when did you start training the way you train now where most of your training is just sparring except well i mean again i i spar i i fight i fight so i'm allowed to train i hate i hate fucking fighting fighting sucks dude half my paycheck goes if i lose like fighting sucks man i hate that oh it's stupid we talked about it with um i had matt sarah dean thomas and my friend john rollo on the podcast guys fight it's like guys fight way hard it's like slavery, man. Again, I'm not saying UFC slavery, but slavery only ended for one reason.

Because it's a shit means of production. If you pay guy people money, they work harder and they do more. And that's kind of how MMA would be. If you guys just paid a little bit more money guaranteed pay it would be like the new form of capitalism guys would fight i mean there was when i fought no one is no one's incentivized to fight harder for a win bonus they're fighting as hard as they can when i fought jared cannear again his corner won that for him dude it was crazy i mean i had the announcers coming like i it was like kind of a boring fight but you won and like his corners yelling like all

this i'm like those punches aren't land dude i have a chin of a girl you guys seen alex knock me out you touch my chin i fucking fall asleep i don't want to tell you but you know that that third fourth round came and i'm like you know dude he's none of these punches are landing i don't have one mark on my face like i'm landing him i'm rocking him you know like i'm winning this fight i'm just gonna fucking jab him just coast and win this bitch and then that's why i was so upset about the fight but But if they were like, hey, Sean, guarantee pay. Maybe we double triple what you made. I would have went in there, bit my mouth

and said, all right, motherfucker, let's bang. But, you know, half your paycheck. Gone. Also with bad judging. Half your paycheck with a decision that people don't even agree with. And you lose half of your money. That happens all the time. You know what my mistake was? I should have put Chris Curtis in my in my corner because like because kurt would have talked like so whenever there he

he threw a couple combinations all miss and the court and his course coach is like yeah man those are great those are all fucking landing i'm like when you box man when you box a lot of punches look like they land but they're missing by like right and you're turning your chin if you go in a slow motion i mean after the jericho near fight i had bruises all over my chest because that's where he was landing and i kind of wish i had kurt in my corner just to tell his corner to shut the fuck up and say no motherfucker those aren't landing what are you talking about right right that is a crazy thing though especially at the apex boy that can influence judges because the apex there's no fucking crowd noise you can hear everything everybody i mean my whole chest was just bruised

but i mean those aren't landed punches right so yeah no i really wish they would change that but yeah i wish they would too that's the that's my only complaint about the ufc really i mean i wish people got made more money and i wish people didn't have a fucking win bonus it's just like they don't have that in boxing. Yeah. And I see other MMA organizations adopting it too, and I'm like, man, this is an opportunity to stand out. Don't do that. Have you ever got to know any boxers on a personal level? Yeah, I've known a few boxers. Man, it's so shady.

It's the shadiest business. Like, guys, most low-level boxing fights, until you get to 20 fights, 18 fights, generally these guys are paying their opponents to fight. Very often. That's why when you go look at a boxing record, it's like, what the fuck did you lose? You've had 100 fights. You're like 1 in 99.

There's a lot of setups. But again, it's not that they want the setups. It's hard to get because these fucking boxers are like princesses. They know how important their record is. If they take one bad loss and it goes from 16 to 1, it's a fucking restart. That's one thing that I really do love about MMA is that when fighters lose, it's not the end of their career. And the sport and the culture of sport has embraced the fact that guys get better through losses. Boxing is also easy, though.

It's definitely easier. Yeah. But I mean, like... But it's different. I mean, I wouldn't say easy, but it's just... At the highest levels, it's not easy. I mean, when you watch, like,

Lomachenko, Devin Haney, there's nothing easy about that fight. Yeah, fuck. Lomachenko's so fucking good. Fuck, he's good. I was telling my buddy Robin, 16-0 guy, and I was like,

what we spar on Friday. I'm like, Robin, what did you do all week, man? Tell me. Tell me about your fucking week, Robin. He goes, well, I ran. I hit pads. I did bag work. I on Friday I'm like Robin what did you do all week man tell me tell me about your fucking week Robin he goes well I ran I hit pads I did bag work I ran I'm like well I fucking I wrestle I grappled on fucking Monday I sparred on Tuesday I wrestled on Thursday I sparred on you know I sparred on Thursday Tuesday and like now me and you are boxing sir yeah boxing is fucking that's why it's definitely easier and also the less guys pull out of fights for sure

because you have less injuries when you're not getting wrestled and you're not That's why I fucking... It's definitely easier and also the less guys pull out of fights for sure because you have less injuries. When you're not getting wrestled and you're not doing jiu-jitsu. That's why Francis, I mean, that's why fucking Francis wanted to do boxing. Boxing's easy.

Well, also, he wants a big ass payday. He's like 37, 38. Dude, I really wanted to watch him fight Jon Jones. I did too. I did too. It'd be very interesting.

I think Jon Jones hates me though. Jon Jones hates you? Why? I just go hard on him, dude. He posted some fucking thing. And we're both sponsored by monster too and almost fucking ruined my sponsor deal yikes but uh like uh he posted something and i don't follow john again i like john john jones is again i don't think john jones is the greatest because you get popped for that kind of steroids i think they should be lifetime bans for steroid use lifetime fucking ban fucking ban. It'd be one thing if, like, you have a tainted supplement.

Like, let's just say, like, this was tainted. And I'm like, you know, this is what it was. Joe Rogan fucking gave me this. Right. Maybe, whatever. But a lifetime ban, dude, for intentional use. Do you know that he intentionally used, though? I mean, I wasn't.

Imagine ruining a guy's career if you're wrong. I mean, I'm sure fucking Jamie could pull it up. But I'm pretty sure it was like some shit right well here's the thing derrick from more plates more dates.com you ever see that guy that guy is the most knowledgeable when it taught when he talks about blood work and blood testing and whether or not there's indicators that show that you know someone had taken something. But his take on that is very different. And also his take on even Daniel Cormier. He was saying that Daniel Cormier is like, something's wrong with his blood work too.

But I don't know what that means. So I go hard on Jon Jones. He posted something about like, I think his kid got like, and again, this is me being fucking CTE half retardation. His kid got like a dog like came out some crazy shit happened but the kid was fine nothing injured i didn't know the story okay he said you know like i love the lord and savior jesus christ and i like retweeted i'm like bro like the only one that you fucking like is a devil man like should we go through your fucking highlight reel you hit a fucking pregnant lady you drove away you. You smacked your wife. Like, you got a highlight reel, bro.

You got a long, long highlight reel being a piece of shit, you know? So, yeah, that almost fucked my mentorship deal. Yikes. But, I mean, it's true, though. Like, I hate these motherfuckers, dude. Like, this is what I'm going to do. If I ever do something really bad to you guys,

I'm going to be like Jon Jones. I think those guys don't want to be bad. I think there's a lot not we're not just talking about John I'm talking about a lot of people that embrace the Lord I think they generally hate what they've done and they feel terrible and so then so that I go to Jesus to try to like cleanse themselves and try to find a better path I think it's because they're not bad people they just recognize they've done bad things, especially when they're partying and getting fucked up. Well, that's what's funny too.

Like I'm the piece of shit, dude, but like, I've never, like, I mean, I've never hit a fucking pregnant lady and you know, that's fucked up, dude. Yeah. And then drive away, drive away, dude. You didn't stop. I mean, hell, I'm certainly some indefensible. Yeah. So what I'm saying, you guys, John Jones, you know, it's funny enough.

Like I'm always like like me and like uh bahamuhammed i think i said some shit about palestine they should bend the knee or some shit and it's just kind of like palestine would be way the moment palestine would be way better if they threw out hamas and they went to israel and said hey let's make this shit better it would be way fucking better but then you have somebody like bahamuhammed who born living in miami he's probably fucking you know barely ever goes to palestine yeah fuck yeah and fuck you israel like you know propagating war instead of like where's my instead of bringing the olive branch and saying hey this sucks how do we make it suck less he's like no fuck you israel like you're you're you're a coward bro you You sit here in America and you say divisive shit from your couch on your Twitter thumbs.

So, you know, he tries. You just like causing problems. But it's truth, dude. It's facts. I know what you're saying. Like, it's fact. That's a complicated issue, though. The Israel-Palestine thing.

I've tried to understand that many, many times. Talked to many, many people about it. It is fucking complicated. Well, the problem is, Palestine, you lose. You lose. You just gotta bend the fucking knee, dude. And this is what I said about Ukraine, too, and I got a lot of shit. I was like, you guys, Ukraine

just needs to bend the fucking knee. And everyone's like, why would you say that about Ukraine? I'm like, because there's no path to success. Yeah, but it's even more complicated than that. Ukraine's problem is, there's NATO forces encroaching oh yeah no we put closer to yeah yeah we put missiles provoked imagine if china allied with mexico and we're like hey we're gonna right and this is not in any way saying that what putin did

wasn't fucking horrible yeah no putin's a piece of shit yeah but all that is the whole thing is calm but i got so much shit for that because i was like yeah ukraine should just been and by the way vysolensky is a fucking piece of shit the president ukraine you know he's like throwing political parties in jail like he's a piece of shit itself i don't know how we even i don't know how we look at him like them like a democracy but i was like yeah ukraine has just been the knee and everyone's like oh sean why would you say that why would you say that you have doomed your country. I mean, did you see the pictures of the cities?

Just rubble. Rubble. Like, everything's fucked. And it's only, I mean, it's not over. But it's not over. So they're going to keep bombing things. How do you come back from that as a country? Your kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids,

they are 100% going gonna wake up every day with the ukraine flag and let's say that happens but they are gonna be in utter fucking poverty you fucking doomed your and again it sucks and the same thing with like um with with palestine the situation sucks although israel is way better than fucking russia the situation sucks but like in the grand scheme of things, man, you just like, you just doom your kids. You just, every time you sit there and you send out a tweet,

you're just, you're making your kids live in poverty and fucking war. That's rough, man. It's fucking rough, dude. It's very complicated. All those things are very, very complicated and having a conversation between two meatheads on a podcast. Oh yeah, wearded but it's like dude i mean could you picture like

like i mean if if you were on if you were on your tweet tweeter right now talking about like fuck israel and all that i would be like joe you're a fucking idiot dude like all you're doing is it'd be one thing if you were there fucking lighting kite bombs from schools it'd be one thing if you were the guy on the if you were the guy on the ground in a hospital launching rockets at israel i'm like well at least you know at least you fucking at least you're living it but just to be in miami doing on the tweet a tweet just shitty man like just fucking people just shouldn't have to die dude shouldn't have to die no they definitely shouldn't have to die and there's also so much money involved in war that's the scariest thought the scariest thought is that people are willing to make decisions that they know is going to cross thousands and thousands of people their lives.

You know, like with how much money we gave to Ukraine, I talked about this in a press conference. That would have financed cancer for like American cancer treatments for like five, ten years. Like, fuck, dude. We don't like, it's so crazy. Like, there's nothing. You're just hopeless, dude. It's utterly fucking hopeless, dude. Yeah.

It's probably not something that we can fix. No, we'll never fix you. I do want to know about, before we wrap this up, about your training. About, like, when did you learn, like, what made you, like, do so much sparring? Like, when did you sort of embrace that? Because one thing that does separate you from everybody else is this timing and control of distance that you really only get from a lot of sparring. And so there's guys like Max Holloway, who's the elite of the elite, who said at this point in time, I don't spar anymore because I get banged up too much in sparring. You know, he said that to you, but I ran into him and I asked him, and he kind of laughed. He's like, no, dude, I still spar. I just don't just don't think but here's the thing about max holloway he is so

fucking good there's not many people who spar him that hit him right same with me it's like again i could get knocked out max get knocked out i could go spar every single day all day long and i could say i don't really could take damage because i proved it that stupid mouthpiece they had me where right but you know again it just comes obsessive. I started training because I was an angry fucking kid. It turned out I love sparring, and it just makes me happier. Has other people in your gym sort of embraced that when they see your success with that? So you know what it is, dude?

You have people live in this world fantasy. Like, again, not naming names. I train with great guys. But I've talked to some guys, and they're like, well, naming names i i train with great guys but i've talked to some guys and they're like well in a fight a lot of guys say well training is not a fight training is not a fight and you know in a fight even though i don't train or spar hard i'll turn it up and i always tell these guys dude like i know you say that but i'll fucking put 10 g's on the on the ground right now you match it or whatever Whatever you want to do, you match it. Spar me three to five rounds, and I will bring you in such fucking misery

that you will fucking quit. And a lot of fighters, man, we got to say things and make ourselves feel better. We got to say, like, oh, in a fight we do this, in a fight we do this. Right, right. And so you think the best approach is just to fight all the fucking time.

All the time but again my style is not taking damage like Chris Curtis it's hard for Chris Curtis to spar 24-7 because that man like

he's like a fucking in the pocket like no matter what he's taking damage right so it's just easy man when I don't take my style is like

evolved around liking to spar this is good for the brain dude you know this you gotta start doing DMT. Go lay in your fucking float tank. But it's interesting because there's no best way to do anything. Yeah.

It's like what is bringing you success? And what brings you success is unique. Also low self-esteem, man. And this is like we talk about a guy like Jon Jones. Again, I'm not sure that I talk. He's probably one of the best fighters ever fucking fighting in the UFC. Having low self-esteem is rough, and a lot of us have super low self-esteem. Like, a lot of us fucking look in the mirror and, you know.

Like, you take someone like John Jones, that motherfucker was inventing moves. He was like, when he was back in the day, like, dude, he was inventing. That spinning, like, when he had the leg. I actually did against Rye Hall. I was so fucking stoked. I'm a fan of Jon Jones, right? Let go of the single leg, boom, spinning back up. Well, that was Jon Jones.

Yeah. But you got to understand, Jon Jones is a fucking super athlete. Since birth, man, that kid was told that he was fucking gold. You know, his brothers are fucking gold. He's gold. So he goes in there and is just like, I'm fucking – I'm made of gold. I can just go fucking do that. But he opened up his world title fight with shogun with a flying knee exactly but you take you take a lot of us who has like low self-esteem like especially like my buddy chris curtis

it's nice going to a fight no i sparred alex i fucking sparred artem levin i did i sparred me and francis aghani who had a fucking you know i've sparred for me and francis aghani who had a fucking three-round war. Really? Oh, yeah. I banged with Francis. Yeah, me and Francis banged. Jesus Christ.

What is that like? So heavyweights are easier to hit and not get hit, but the problem is they just touch you, dude, and it feels like you're hit by a truck. But I always tell Francis. By the way, you obviously see Francis. Francis is the fucking greatest guy. He's a great guy great guy bro he's like you talk to francis and you're like and you're like dude you're a fucking saint it's funny i walk guys been through some

shit i thought we're up is it funny so i walked into the gym once it was like my birthday the day for him it's like why didn't you tell me it's my birthday and i was like those fucking birthdays are for women and children i don't fucking celebrate birthdays francis is like sean sean what is what is a birthday what does a birth i was like francis he's like there was no presence in the salt mines there was no cake in the salt mines like it's like fuck francis like oh man it made me made it make me feel like a fucking pussy the most sincere guy bro the most sincere guy was like francis no offense man but i would never want to i would never want to date a girl you you dated just because like i mean maybe like six of these combined and francis i'm not even joking bro i'm like i mean i'm being comic i'm joking he's like sean sean sean you don't when you know the

way of a woman he's like you can make a woman you know climax with a woman, he's like, you can make a woman, you know, climax with the finger. And he's like, he's like having this heart to heart talk with me about like pleasuring a woman. And I'm like, Francis, I'm just making a joke. I'm just fucking with you,

bro. But yeah, the most, the sincere, yeah, but sparring for us is fun. I mean, I've like spar for us.

Like, come on, you fucking bitch. Let's fight. Wow. Cause he scares me. He scares the fuck out of me. He's a big,

scary black man. He scares the fuck out of me. He scares the fuck out of everybody. Yeah. But like, the power that guy has is fucking ridiculous. But what I'm saying though, you fucking bitch, let's fight. Wow. Because he scares me. He scares the fuck out of me. He's a big, scary black man. He scares the fuck out of me. He scares the fuck out of everybody. Yeah, but like that's- The power that guy has is fucking ridiculous. But what I'm saying, though, it's like when he scares me, like that little voice,

me hiding underneath the bed from my dad and like that little child fucking looks at him and feels fear. I'm like, I gotta fight that motherfucker. I sincerely hope he's successful. I hope that him leaving as the heavyweight champion, and I really hope he gets a boxing match. But boxing, they're fucking stringing him along, man.

They keep promising him this fight and promising him that fight, and no one's going to fight him. Yeah. Yeah. You know? But, no, he's doing the good PFL thing. I mean, he's in there. But he's not going to fight in PFL until 2024, which is crazy.

Yeah, but, man, fuck that. I don't understand why. Yeah, fucking A, dude. It's just money. I'm sure he doesn't have to fight in PFL until 2024, which is crazy. I don't understand why. Yeah, fucking A, dude. It's just money. I'm sure he doesn't have to fight. He has fucking money. Well, yeah, but he wants the real money. I don't have to work again for the rest of my life. Go fuck yourself in money. Yeah, and I really hope he gets that. I think they

fucking dangled that out in front of him. Yeah, and then he got hyped up. It was like, you see what these boxers are making. My box making my biggest thing dude like the pfl everyone's like oh sean like you why do you talk so highly of pfl and bellator like dude i want everybody to win competition competition's fucking good i want good for everybody johnny eblum yes he's my boy he's a beast he oh i fucking love johnny one of the best 185 pounders on earth fuck dude me and johnny eblum have wars man i fucking the guy. I want him to fucking make money. I want Sadie Boussai to win the championship.

It's like people are so brand loyal, and I'm a company man, but it's like I love In-N-Out, dude. I fucking love me some In-N-Out. Fucking love In-N-Out. But I also want five. I don't really like five guys. I like five guys. It's too greasy, bro.

It's too greasy. Too greasy? Interesting. They give you jalapenos and bacon. The fries are like mush, bro. They're great. The fries are great. What are you, a communist?

You don't like Five Guys? Oh, yeah, maybe. The fuck is going on? But what I'm saying, though, right, is I want Five Guys to lower their prices. I want them to fucking steal in and out. You want competition. I want competition, man. America's based off competition. Yes. And that's the problem. Not enough competition to fucking steal in and out. You want competition. I want competition, man. America's based off competition.

Yes. You know, and that's the problem. Not enough competition, you guys. Agreed. So support, you know, what I would say is support Bellator, support PFL. If you're a fighter. Support one. Support everybody.

One FC, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's better for everybody. I like, I love that Farah Tang guy, dude. That guy's a whoo. He's fun to watch. Bro, I watch that guy always hype me up.

He's just like fucking... Yeah, oh, he's a little animal. But when you're this fucking big, you know, things hurt a little bit less. Well, there's some reality to that for sure. Yeah, but it's like

watching a woman just way fucking better. He's a bad motherfucker. I hate watching women fight, by the way. God, I hate it. I love that Mighty Mouse fight with him.

I really love that fight because it's a wild idea. Like, have one round Muay Thai, second round MMA. Yeah, I mean, I like that Mighty Mouse fight with him. I really love that fight because it's a wild idea. Like have one round Muay Thai, second round MMA. Yeah, I mean, I like that, but just stick to Muay Thai, dude. Well, that would be good for him to just stick to Muay Thai, but I love the fact that Mighty Mouse took that challenge on. I love that. Well, it would be cool just to be like, why does it have to be like,

hey, I need to beat you at MMA. You are a kickboxer. You are an MMA fighter. it's two fucking different sports right yeah but it's like exciting to see let's see what happens see if he could survive the first round and just pure Muay Thai no takedowns no nothing that clown shows that Jake Paul match it's a fucking clown show what are they doing is he still fighting ideas that's still going on oh that one yeah I thought because he's got a PFL contract as well right yeah so i think he's gonna fight in pfl you know dude he's one

of those guys make me so mad they just they game the system so well fucking he's such a i'd say smart dude like clever all that fucking money from tiktok and just like he the motherfucker the guy and everyone's the guy's fighting anderson silva the guy's in there boxing Tommy Fury. Who the fuck is Tommy Fury? When's the last time Tommy Fury boxed? Before he fought Jake Paul. Four months before that. It's a thing you're saying, but he's

skilled. He's a part-time fighter. He did it on a reality TV show. I would fuck Tommy Fury up. I would fucking put hands on him and Paul. But like what I'm saying, yeah, he's a good looking dude, man.

I don't fucking know. Have you thought about doing straight boxing? I've been like, I've had guys talk to me and be like, dude, you would fucking cry. Because that's what you

really enjoy, right? Yeah, I like boxing. You don't throw a lot of kicks. I know you have real good jiu-jitsu, but it's not like you're taking guys down and submitting them. If the money was right and someone was like, but it's not like you're taking guys down and submitting them.

If the money was right and someone was like, hey, we'll pay you this money to box, yeah, fuck that, do it. But, you know, everything is money, dude. I'd fucking, Joe Rogan, if somebody fucking came here and put a fucking million dollars on this table right now and said attack Joe Rogan, I would attack Joe Rogan and deal with the court case later. I'd have special forces guys come and shoot me.

You know? Well, I think you got some real amazing opportunities coming in the UFC. And then if something opens up for a boxing match. But either way, dude, I'm not poor. The Paul guys, they're like your size. Yeah, dude, I'm not poor, which is nice. Yeah, I'd fucking put work on it. It's nice, right?

Dude, not being poor, you guys, is so nice. I mean, fucking Rogan has that, like, go fuck yourself money. Rogan has the fucking, I don't have to do shit for the rest of my life money. But you're still doing shit, bro. I applaud you for that. Yeah, you gotta still do shit. Well, the problem is, when you stop doing shit, you die. You just become a lazy old sack of shit. Yeah, your brain starts going away. Yeah, but the beautiful thing

about having money is now you don't have to think about it. Now just do what you enjoy doing. So I just do what I like doing. Is it weird that you could just wake up and just, like, I want to buy a motorcycle. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, it's weird. Like, there's nothing you could think about just like, I want to buy a motorcycle. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, it's weird. Like, there's nothing you could think about. Like, I want to go buy an airplane. I can buy a fucking airplane.

Yeah, but that's when it gets wild. Like, when people start buying houses and airplanes. Because, like, then you'll run out of money. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you could run out of money. You could be a billionaire and run out of money. But you can go buy, like, a $300,000 Cessna and give no fucks. Yeah.

Yeah, fuck, it's weird. It's weird. Yeah, especially growing up poor. It's very weird. Yo, black rifle guys But I don't think about money What I've done with it, I've recognized Okay, that's an aspect of my life that's covered

So let's just not make any decisions based only on money Whereas when I was younger Like when I hosted Fear Factor I was like, oh, it's good money, I'll do it But I would never do anything like that now It's like I don't want to do anything just for money So now I just do things that I really enjoy your kids they're gonna work or you're gonna be like a hundred percent a hundred percent yeah yeah you listen this life is not if you just

give people everything fucking ruins them it ruins them fucking ruins them they win the lottery when you're 18 your life is gonna be hell yeah you're gonna you're gonna build a business and also your kids just fucking ruin their kids are drug addicts. It just seems... Look at Hunter Biden. They found coke in the White House. Did you see that? Did they really? Yes! They shut the White House down.

They found cocaine in the White House after he visited. Oh, man, dude. I think it's hilarious. They're trying to cover this up. Would you vote... If it was Trump versus Biden, would you vote for Trump? Or would you just not vote? I would vote for Trump over Biden.

I said that before. I said that before I'd vote for Trump over Biden But I voted for Libertarian in the last election I voted Joe Jorgensen in the last election But I think Robert Kennedy has a real good shot I think he has a real good shot And we're more than a year away from the election I think people are waking up

I was watching this The press secretary get grilled today All the different journalists Are starting to act like journalists. Fucking right. They're going after her, asking her all these questions about these fucking emails and these WhatsApp chats that show that there's very clear bribery going on. Yeah, fuck.

Pay to play, man. And she's trying to like, oh, I'm not going to get into that. I'm not going to talk about business, family businesses. You know what's so know about america though like and then joe or fucking joe biden like talking about oh you would need a plane to take on the government like americas are such fucking pussified we're like americans are so fucking pussified dude that like it's like it is factual that we have sold this country is factual that we lied for iraq like we have done so much fucked up shit it's not we it's giant corporations that can lie to people in order to make money but

as americans we all sit there and be like huzzah who's next yeah but we didn't we don't know what's going on that's the problem is the media's bought and paid for but we do know what's going on now we know now we know what was going on but even then but even, what do you think is going to happen in the next election? They're going to find some other stooge on the Democrat-Republican party. We're going to vote for them, and the cycle continues. We'll see. Yeah, it's fucking damn soon, dude. Fucking A, guys.

Listen, Sean. I'm down for the revolution. Rogan's down for revolution, guys. Let's go fucking storm the Capitol. It'll be fun. Congratulations on your fight, uh i really look forward to seeing you next time you're in there against anybody and everybody whoever it is i'm a fan hey man i'm pseudo famous now i made i made the fucking rogan let's go let's fucking go all right

thanks bye everybody