The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #177 - Protect Ya Neck

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

Joe is joined by mixed martial artists John Rallo, Matt Serra, and Din Thomas.John Rallo owns Shogun Fights and is the owner and head coach at Ground Control Mixed Martial Arts Academy.www.groundcontrolbaltimore.comwww.shogunfights.comMatt Serra is a mixed martial artist and host of “UFC Unfiltered” with Jim Norton and “Geeking Out with Matt Serra.” He is the owner and an instructor at Serra BJJ.www.youtube.com/@MattSerraBJJwww.serrabjjacademy.comDin Thomas is a mixed martial arts analyst, actor, and host of “Din Thomas’ Fight Court.”www.youtube.com/@FightCourt Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Make your sports picks with DraftKings Predictions, available in California, Florida, Texas and more. Download the DraftKings Predictions app today. Sign up using promo code ROGAN or at https://dkpred.sng.link/Ereb8/jbhu/dogs GUS III LLC d/b/a DraftKings Predictions is a CFTC-registered Introducing Broker and NFA member. Event contract trading involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for everyone. 1 per new Predictions customer. Opt-in req. Min. $5 traded. $50 issued in Predictions Dollars, which are site credits that are non-withdrawable, single-use, not redeemable for cash, and expire in 1 year. Predictions Dollars are used prior to any cash in your DraftKings Predictions balance. Ends 4/26/26 11:59PM ET. Market availability varies. Eligibility restrictions apply. Terms: https://dkng.co/predictionspromo. Sponsored by DK. Get Visible for just $20/mo for 1 year. Use code FRESHSTART. Switch & see terms at https://www.visible.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I told Rollo say this for the air. Because Rollo years ago, shit, this had to be like at least 10 years ago. 20. 20 years ago? It was like 2006, 2007. That's crazy. So 20 years ago, Roll. calls me up, but he says, Tommy Lee wants to meet you.

He wants to talk to you about something. I go, okay, sure. So we go to see his concert. That was when he was a rock and roll supernova, the TV show. That's right. So you had a TV show. It was in Long Beach. Right, right.

You and Eddie came. Me and Eddie Bravo came. And then afterwards, first of all, Tommy Lee has the dopest green room. Like, he sets his green room up like a fucking after-hours party. He's got like tapestries on the wall and candles and light. Yeah, you're walking like, damn. Like, he doesn't just walk into a cold green room. Like, I'm lazy.

Yeah. If I go on the road, I just, what's your green room? I'll go hang out in there. It's like it just walk. But he has it set up. Like everywhere is like calm and relaxing and spiritual. And so I meet Tommy and Tommy wants a fight kid rock in the UFC. Is this true?

What makes people think they can do this? It's for Pam Anderson's heart. Yeah. Well, this is how it started. This is kind of how it started. that was that way with Pam. Yeah. Like, you know, they both were married to her.

So Tommy and her are always going to be connected because of the kids. So she had split up with Kid Rock and Kid Rock was emailing her, texting her, I guess, you know, still trying to get with her. Tommy is with her. Not together, but, you know, they were together that day. And she asked him, you know, you're friends with him. Can you call him and tell him to stop calling me and shit? And Tommy's like, I don't want to get in the middle of that shit.

Oh boy. And she's like, you know, if, you know, please. So he winds up hitting, you know, him up and like, look, dude, you know, I don't really want to make this call, blah, blah, blah. Of course, Kid Rock took the heat. Fuck you, you know, blah, blah. So they're fucking each other back and forth. Goes away.

Now there was some MTV Awards thing. Okay. And actually, let me back up first. We were in Vegas for a New Year's thing. and there was this rumor that Kid Rock was supposed to come with his bodyguard and come to Tommy's room and attack him. So me, my man Kimo, who you know as well, you know, we're sleeping in Tommy's room hoping they show up.

And of course, they go to a different room. They do go to a room, kick a door in. I think totally for... So they actually went looking for him? For real? I don't think they went looking for them. I think it was a big publicity stunt. They signed some autographs.

and they keep it moving. So I'm saying to Tommy, I go, yo, dude, I go, fuck him. I go, you should fight him on pay-per-view. Imagine all the money that we make. I go, I'll fight his fucking security guy. Like, we'll fucking make a whole thing of it. And he goes, man, that's brilliant. Oh, my God.

So I go, I go, you know, I'm telling you, I said, you should do. I said, look, either you fight him and you beat him up or he punks out and you win either way. And he's like, he's like, yeah, yeah. like this. So he talks to his management, of course, it just goes by the wayside. Well, they're having some MTV Awards shit. Security's not allowed on the floor there. They had their own, like, you know, it was in a casino to have security for it. While he's sitting in there with Pam, Kid Rock Lake comes up kind of behind him and pokes him and Tommy sees him and he goes to stand up and Kid Rock suckers him there. He hit him. Yeah. What? And I'm home. My phone is getting blown

to fuck up. Like, what? How? happened with Tommy, what happened with Tommy? I'm like, I don't fucking know. Like, I'm not with him right now. And I get a call. I swear, like 30 minutes later and it's Tommy. And he's going, fuck him. He goes, I'm done with that motherfucker. I want to fight him. I'm going to fucking fight him now. I go, he goes, I want you to train me. I go, he goes, I'm going to move you out. I go, no. You're moving to me. I go, we're not going to be out here with all your little fucking ass kissers. I said, if you're going to do it, you're really going to do it. Is he working out at all at the time? No.

So, you know, the only working out he does is on the drums, which he does murder. So. That is a little bit of arm condition. Yeah, for sure. That's like a little punch. Definitely. And I can show you a picture of him with a choke on me. And it's legit.

Like, he did train with Horian. And I told you guys, he trained some with Billy Blanks. So, I know. Billy Blanks was, I've talked about this on the podcast. He was a bad motherfucker. He was a bad motherfucker. He was one of those, like, Raymond Daniels-type karate. point fighting character.

He's a tie-boy day. He's the Taibo guy, but we'll get to that. All right. Yeah, so I'll get to that. Props to Billy Blanks. I bring him in and I told him. I said, look, when we're going to Long Beach, I said, I know Rogan, I can have him come in and you can tell him your idea.

And he goes, all right, all right. So I bring Joe and Eddie, they meet him. He tells Joe he wants to fight him. Literally, and Tommy said his sanctuary was his management company at the time. I don't know if he still is or not. So they call Kid Rock's people supposedly and offer this fucking fight on pay-per-view. And Kid Rock's people wound up calling back and basically turning it down saying whoever loses is ruined for, you know, for life, I guess, because

looking like a bitch because they both have the rock and roll, tough guy, you know, image thing. So that's literally, did he say that in print? That's literally how it stopped. Was that in print? Whoever loses this is ruined? Oh, no, no, no. That was supposedly the response from Kid Rock's management to Tommy's management. That is correct. He would be correct.

Yeah, but if it's a good fight, like a Stefan Bader and Forrest Christians. Oh, my God. Well, that would be different. Then they both would win. I kind of forget who won that fight. Stephen Bader, Forrest, Grimmert. I know Forrest won. I know Forrest won.

But I kind of forget because the fight was so. Yeah, it was amazing. That was one of the most toss-up fights of all time. Yeah. Like, who fucking knows who won't have fight. And Dana did the right thing. He contracted both of them. We actually talked about it in the octagon right before he did it.

Wow. Did you really? Yeah. He should get both these motherfuckers a bonus. He's like, we were going to do that. I'm like, fuck yeah. It was amazing. Do you think if it wasn't for the ultimate fighter, it would have died out?

Who knows, man? But it was like lightning in a bottle. Because there was another good fight before that. Diego Sanchez, fuck Kenny Florian up, man. That was a one-way beating. But that was Diego Sanchez coming up. People got to see Diego fight too many fights. They got to see the later fights.

They forgot what a monster Diego was in his prime. Cardio animal. Question of his grappling. I mean, Marcello got him, but, you know, he hung with one of the best of all time. Just an ADCC. Yeah. Is he doing a fucking... I don't know.

Listen, man, you can only get hit so many times. Agreed. And he was halfway gone before. Well, he was always like just open-minded and weird thinker. Remember he had that guy that was training him that you had a little bit of a disagreement. What about that loser? Joshua Fabia. Yeah, he don't mention his name.

Yeah. Cut that one out here. That guy was demented. Well, he had Diego hanging upside down. He like smacking him in his face. Yeah, well, the video's insane. The video's insane. But Diego was like super, super open-minded.

Like he was willing to believe in magic. He was, you know what I'm saying? Kind of like he believed in himself so much that Diego was like, and he was also like doing weird stuff like he would chew meat and spit it out. He would just chew it down, like get all the juices from it and then spit whatever's left out. You wouldn't swallow the meat. But he was fun to watch. He didn't come out. He was a fucking animal.

He was a fucking animal. Steve Maxwell trained him for the fight with BJ Penn and got him in insane shape. But unfortunately, that was the fight where BJ. That was when BJ was training with the Marinavitches. He was leaping out of pools. BJ was unstoppable. Yeah, yeah. There was a time where I would say watch BJ in his prime.

I'll put that dude up against anybody. Yeah, there's no doubt. I always say he's the best 55 of all time. He was a Wolverine. In that window, right? In that window, when he beat Matt Hughes? Yeah, he was a human Wolverine. Yeah.

But you did a lot better with him than I did. I didn't want to bring that out. You did. You had elite world champion. championship caliber jujitsu yeah you know what I mean and a guy like him relies on jiu jitsu a lot you know and but BJ was just the I always there's two fights the Kenny four not I'm sorry Sean Shirk flight oh the Sean Shirk fight was he Merve-Heap prime B.J yeah yeah yeah and then what about

what about Joe Steven's that's another one too yeah but Diego was like more highly ranked than Joe yeah yeah he wrecked count uno well I mean he was a beast Matt he did the Matt Hughes when he took the title yeah it was Matt Hughes was just like, you're coming up to my weight class? Right. Yeah. You know, that type of thing. He was a wolverine.

There he was. They would fight people at 200. He fought Leoto Machita, 200 pounds. That's crazy. Yeah. He was a wolverine. He did a good guy about that. Fucking animal.

And did real good. Yeah. He was scary on the feet. Yeah. A natural 55er who fought as low as 45. Remember? He went down a 45 for a while. Bro.

Bejjjad was a monster in his private. And he was well-rounded, too, before guys were super well-rounded. Like, he threw hands. well if he just had the will to go through those Marinovich camps every fight he would have been unstoppable yeah they just BJ would you know he would just lose his focus a little bit I watched a YouTube documentary about like the rise and trajectory and then the later years it was really well done but it was all just talking about how did there's this prime BJ and that's when he was training with the

Morinovich's and incredible conditioning and he could just go fight and not worry about his conditioning do you think he it wasn't lazy Right? What do you think it was? A lot of friends, a lot of parking. He's the king of the island. He's basically the king of Hawaii. For sure. I think Peachie Penn was the king.

Everywhere he would go, people were like, it's PJ. I mean, he was the king in Vegas, man. In those prime years when he was the champ, he was a huge star. So I'm sure he's a huge star in Hilo. He's probably hanging out with the boys all the time, having a good time. Plus his family had influenced there, right? They had like money. He didn't come from poverty.

But it's just like that it just was really, real hard to maintain those kind of camps. Those camps are insane. He was also super, super talented. Super talented. And so it's like he didn't have to work as hard to still beat up people. Like in practice. It definitely came easy.

His flexibility and leg dexterity was in. Oh my goodness. I remember when I fought him and we were doing the rules meeting. This is the time where we could ask questions. Like they did everybody in the rules meeting. And I'm in the rules meeting and Frank Shamrock was in his corner. And Frank's like, are we allowed to in guard kick him in the head? I'm like, what the hell?

Like, he was talking about his flexibility, just wrapping around the back of my head and kicking me in the head from around. I was like, what the hell is this guy insane? Right. I was like, how the hell is he going to be able to kick me in the head from there? But apparently BJ had that flexibility to be able to do that.

Put his feet behind his head. He could do double lotus without using his hands. That's crazy. Like sit back and just fucking completely crop, but Lotus. Yeah. Like interlocked with no hands. That's insane. It's nuts.

His flexibility, his bananas. And he worked on it. It wasn't just like a natural gift, but how smart was he to figure out if you could use your legs like you could use your arms? There's so much fucking stronger. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I'm going to this? That's nuts, man. He can put his own fucking leg behind his head with no hands. That's crazy flexibility. That seems he was going to kick you while he were north-south. Yeah.

That is nuts. He's going to do that. That is nuts. But is that legal? No. There's a lot of goofy rules, right? Like, that's, there's a, I don't think it would be cool to stomp people in the head and soccer kick them. But at least knees to the head up.

Nees to the head should be okay. Yeah. For sure. Because if you're shooting on a single and you're holding onto it and your heads right there, that's a stupid place to be in real life. Yeah. Right. Let's just real life, a real fight. Why wouldn't the guy knee you in the head?

You're grabbing his knee. If he's, you're all in right here. All he has to do is knee you in the face, and he can't do it because you're on your knees. And let's be fair, like a knee when somebody's on their feet is worse than that. Yes. You know what I'm saying? That's not as bad. Yeah, that's not as like if you're on the front and I knee you in the head, that's still not as bad as if me just kneeing you right in the face.

Yes. Especially if you're like the Michael Venom Page fight. Oh, yeah. Cyborg. If you ever want to know, what's the most destructive strike in MMM? Yeah. The most amount of power you can generate is got to be a knee. A flying knee. While guys coming in?

When a guy's like shooting in on him. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the the jab, the kick to the knee. I agree. I'm not a fan of that. Obliqic kick? I agree. Yeah. You saw what happens if you hit it right when Khalil did it. Modestis. Modestis. Yeah, Modestis.

You know, my opinion there is it's just something that if you hit it right, it's an injury's coming. And not a good one. You can't It's not like a knee bar or something. Exactly. So I kind of think, if you can't kick a guy in the side of a knee for that reason, why should you be able to fucking... If you can kick in the knees, you should be able to kick in the nuts. I'm gonna be real.

I need the... What are we doing here? What are we doing here? We're pretending. Like, we're a cup and I can kick you in the nuts. There's some good cups out there. Oh, just get a steel one. It's crazy.

Like, why do we have some weird rules like that? Yeah, it's crazy because like every time somebody gets kicked in the nuts, you say it. You say it. Why don't you get a steel cup? The fact that no one has a steel cup to me, after all this time, it's unbelievable. And it's ultimate cheap code in grappling to him. If I got your beat with that thing on. Do you guys remember Amir Renovardi?

Yeah, yeah. That's a long time ago. Yeah, a long time ago. I trained with him at Legends, and he mounted me and he put his cup in my solar plexus. Like, I was ready to tap from his dick. You know, probably that is? All right, imagine my two-same. 65 deal about the feet.

You know what I mean? And I always wore a cup when I train, you know? And it's also, that's a lever for an arm bar? Oh, man. It's like a rock. A knee bar or anything. How you're going to slide your elbow past that?

You know, it's a weird fucking look when the guys wear the whole spandex and they have that steel cup. So they got like a big fucking dick and their fucking... The Shoney Carter Cup? Yeah, that's a yellow. Romero. You remember that Shoney Carter car? I think Eddie fucking talked about it for the entire fight.

It was a King of a Cage fight. And Shoney was fight. And he had a giant couple. And I swear Eddie just commentated about the size of the cup. It was hilarious. Bro, in the Taekwondo days, they had ones you'd put on over your pants. So you'd have your ghee pants on, and then you'd put these ones on over it, and it had like this big strap and go right up to your taint, like right literally to your asshole.

And then go all the way up like this and strap it in. But it was way better. It was way better because he had more... Is it like a box and cup? No, it was a type... It was just for Taekwondo. It was just literally designed to wear it. outside.

So you could kick one. And that's when I realized, like, oh, you can never wear regular cups. Like, regular cups move too much. It's just sitting there. And sometimes your nut gets caught between the cup and your leg. When you get hit there, it's way worse. And I think maybe the UFC should make that mandatory. A hundred percent.

Like, if you have to wear a mouthpiece, why don't you wear compression shorts? Yeah, for sure. Wear those, like, the diamond MMA ones. That's a cup I have. I like that. Legit. And if you don't want to wear steel, that's fine. You don't want to have dental floss up your asshole.

It's uncomfortable, but that's, I would think, if I was advising someone, I'd say, get a fucking steel cup before they outlaw it. Because they should have to outlaw it. You should have to wear that, though. I mean, it would eliminate all the nutshots. If you're smart, you would wear a steel cup 100%. If somebody kicks you in the nuts, it'll hurt them more than it hurts you. Like, it protects you from everything. It's uncomfortable.

That's all it is. Just uncomfortable. So what? I mean. So it's fighting. Yeah. Yeah, so was fighting, so was getting kicked in the nuts. Dude, I can't believe it's legal.

I really, it's like one of the, how do you have steel in there? Who, but who says that? I don't think anybody has a steel cup. A bunch of guys do. Do you see war at every fight he had? Oh, shit. Dude, it's, you imagine a guy diving on a double and you hip into him. Ooh, man.

You're slamming his face with your dick. Your dick is a rubber in metal. Your dick's covered in metal, and that's legal. Yeah. You have pads on your nose. knuckles. You have that pads on your knuckles and you've got an armor plate over your cock.

Yeah, I would definitely wear that if I was fighting. Yeah. I'm selling them. I'm just going to start selling them on my website. Because it's like there's no way that should be legal. Yeah. Like how is that legal? I don't know. It's fucking metal. You're bringing metal into

the equation. A foot can hit metal, a knee can hit metal. And you can do that and the fact that no one does it, it's Well, a few guys do it. We were talking about different guys who've done it that are currently doing it. And I know D.C. did it, but there's a few guys who still do it, and we were talking about it on one of the broadcasts. I don't remember which guys he was pointing out, but there's a few guys. Kenny Florian always wore a steel cup.

But the fact that not everyone does it is with Delagrott. Yeah, for sure. Delagradi, for sure. A, 100%. Damn. That's fucking interesting. You're here with Delagradi starts talking Thai? No, I never heard that.

He speaks fluent Thai. Does he really? He's got that. He's like a guy. Guinea from Boston. When he talks, he could talk to Thai people. It freaks them out. Really?

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See terms at DKNG.com slash predictions promo. Well, he's my man. I go to Boston and stay with him. Yeah, and his wife always cooks for me. What a great bunch of people. He's a maniac. I love that, dude. On the Ultimate Fighter 4, we didn't have assigned coaches, and he would just work with

us like any time we needed him. Yeah. You know what I mean? He was great. And he would let us tackle them and fucking mount them and fuck. You know what I mean? Yeah, he was awesome. Yeah, he's great, Mark.

He's a good dude. He's a really good coach, too. Yeah. You know, who was really impressive working with him was Kevin James. You know, Kevin James, you know, you think of him as the King of Queens. He worked with Mark a lot, and Kevin's been my friend for years, but I really hadn't seen him hit paths. I saw him hit paths with Delagrotti.

I was like, what the fuck, dude? I'm like, that's good. Like, this looks good. Mark will make you look good. Mark's a good fucking coach, man. He's a really solid coach. He gave Longo a black eye. He spawed one time with Longo, Kevin Jay.

Did he, Ronald was walking around, like, fucking Petey from Lillianna Razz? He's a deceptively fast dude. Yeah, he's athletic. You know, for a big dude. When I first met him, he was jacked. Like, he wasn't as big as he got it. one point in time, but he's always kind of seesawed back and forth, but he was a karate guy.

He was always doing karate when he was younger. He's super athletic. There he is. It doesn't look as good there. I think that's like, man, the oompsies. I think that's when he was just getting into it, honestly. But he had Delagrote staying with him a while, and Delacrote was training him. Yeah, I saw him

in Kilcliffe, just like blending in with the guys. Like, he wasn't like standing out, he was just at Kilcliffe. Training, yeah, blending in with the guys. He's a great guy. I've known him forever. I just seen him in either Becky or the wrath of Becky. Oh, yeah, that's right. It's not a bad show.

He plays a psycho. And the girl in it is great. Yeah. The girl's like a little psycho girl. That's a fun movie. It's fun. Yeah, yeah. I think it's the first one called Becky.

And he plays a villain. He plays... The other guy that did it was Joel McHale. Joel McHale played the second psycho in one of the other movies. I forget it was out of the first or the second one. I think he's in the second one, the wrath of Becky. Kevin was awesome. Good. These are good movies.

Kevin played a good psycho. Hey, did you ever see the Night of the Seven Kingdoms? No, I haven't seen that yet. I'm telling you. I'm going to watch it, though, because I'm in the middle of finishing the first season of game, the first year, the first all Game of Thrones. What, you're doing it over? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you've seen it already.

But I haven't seen it since like 2015 or 11. It's amazing. It's fucking amazing. I forgot so much. It's fucking awesome. This, you don't even have to watch any of the Game of Thrones because this takes place. 90 years before the first events of the Game of Thrones. Sir Dunkin the Tall.

And it is so good. It is good. So well done. And it's based on the novel. I'm a fucking nerd. I read the graphic novel of it by George R.R.R. Martin. Yeah, yeah. And I read it back in the day.

And it was, it's so great. And you know how they have like trial by combat? Yeah. And this one, not to give everything away, but this guy gets into it. And he has to do a trial by seven. So it's seven on seven nights. And it's like one of those things. He's a hedge knight.

It's fucking really... What I like about it is... Did you ever watch the House of the Dragon? Yes. It's a lot of cool shit. Yeah. But there's nobody to root for. There are a bunch of pricks.

One's worse than the other. I mean, back in Game of Thrones, John Snowy, you know... Ned Stark. Even some guys that are... Even just great characters and some guys that are on like the hound who's doing like the anti-hero.

But with this one, it's just a fucking good, solid dude, trying to do the right thing. Yep. And by trying to do the right thing, he gets into some trouble. And it's just, it gives you like, it's like being righteous and have like real heroics. Like, you know what I mean?

Like some shit that's missing nowadays because it's all about getting a fucking message in there or making such shit diverse, which I love, though. You know what's funny? B-E-I-D. Game of Thrones Game of Thrones

was like a feminist series if you really think about it. I mean, really was. But without any fanfare. Like, no, bringing it up. No one paid attention to it, but the baddest people on that show were the women. Circey Lanister was the baddest bitch in the world.

Aria Stark fucking killed everybody. Brayana Tar kept it together to all that shit. Brianna Farr fucked everybody up, including the hounds. I didn't realize. And you got the queen of dragons. Yes, and you got Tenerys. The queen of dragons, who's the baddest motherfucker on Earth?

You literally can't burn her. And she's got three dragons. It's a feminist series. I didn't realize that. It is. It's a completely feminist series, but without. It never even crosses your mind. Because it's so good you don't care.

It's not, it's not like dumb. You haven't watched that thing? No, I did. And House of Dragons is the same way. Right. Like there's some of these, like, Star Wars movies. where it's all women generals and you're like, shut the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up. And all the men are scared of them and they all get out of the room. Like, this is fiction. This is nonsense. Even though that's obviously fiction too, it's way better. A lady that has dragons.

The hottest bitch around, she's got dragons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She fucks a bunch of killers. She brings them into her bed. Well, because they do a good job of making them barbarians. What they do such a good job of making them.

flawed. That you don't even realize that they are the baddest motherfuckers in the world. But they're so, but they're flawed in a way where it's like it makes them human. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look at Circy Lannister. All of her kids gone. That bitch survives.

She's got a giant demon that watches over her. Yeah. Like she's in love with her brother. She fucks her brother. She had the, well, I don't, spoiler alert. But when she had that, uh, the priest that tortured her where she was in the cell when they finally got her. Yeah. And she's like, I'm ready to meet my mom.

just like, oh, you're not going to die today. Oh, man. And then the mouth. He had fucking John Rollo taking it off his own. Oh, God. That was that was John Rollo. Oh, my God. Oh, dude.

That was such a horrifying scene. It was such a great show. Is there a better, like, world universe? No. No one was safe on that show. You never knew that the biggest character could just get fucking murked at, like, the next episode. Pedro Pascal.

played that what was his character? Oh, yeah. When he got killed by the mountain. Prince Obrim. First of all, I never thought they would kill him. Like, that guy's an important character. He's bringing all this new life to the show. And all of a sudden, you see the mountain...

Get his... Knuckles into that guy's eyeballs and... Yeah, that was so crazy. Holy fuck, that was like one of the most disturbing murder scenes you've ever seen in your life. And he was doing great. He was taking a shit on him. He got too cocky.

Yeah, man. He worked him over. Thought he had him. You raped her! You murdered her! You killed her! You killed her! Some shit like that, he kept repeating it.

Yeah, and strutting around on the mountains on his back. Yeah, oh. What a crazy show. Such a good show. One of the greatest shows of all time. I'm telling you, you got to text me after you watch The Night of the Seven Kingdoms, because it's all out. You could binge it. I'm gonna do it as soon as we're done with this.

It's quick to season seven now. Six episodes. And each episode's like 30 minutes of some shit. You run through it. The House of Dragons never really dragged me in. It didn't. It was interesting. Yeah.

It was like, I liked it. But it wasn't the same thing. Definitely not. This I think this the new one is in my opinion better I thought oh the circuit the night Yeah so good it's so good there's parts in it that just get you going like fuck yeah Yeah yeah hell yeah I'm looking forward to I hope they lengthen it a little bit you know what I'm saying Six half hour episodes but I love the relationship between the kid and the dunk Yeah that was the whole that was the whole that was the whole yeah one thing I did love about house of dragons when they were trying to figure out who could ride a dragon

Oh, that was cool. And they brought all those people down there. Oh, yeah. Snitch. You have to have some Targaryian blood. And a lot of Targaryians fucked a lot of regular people, so they were searching for Targary and blood, just taking people out of the pub and just push them in front of the track.

That was crazy. She first asked one of the King's God. Like, you know, we tracked you back to whatever. And he's like, oh, it's a great honor. No, I want to do it. Yeah, buddy. Careful what you wish for, motherfucker. That scene was nuts.

That scene was nuts. Dude, the red, the red, the red, Fucking happens a crazy. You couldn't believe it was happening. No. Why I was happening like this can't expect because we're taking everybody happening. This can't be happening. Did you hate the ending as much as everybody's?

I did not enjoy it. It felt to me like they had to tie it up and like that da-da-da-da-da-da-a-no. You know, I would have been almost better if it was like no country for old men style ending. I think all shows should be like that because life continues afterwards, right? You don't have to tie it in. I'm not 12. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Once it got past the books, it took a hit. Well, that guy's a genius. I mean, the world that guy created in the complexity of all the characters, like Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister. Oh, my God. I mean, it's so good. Yeah, man. I mean, that guy was so fucking good, man.

They're already doing the Swan Sword, which is the second book of Game of Thrones of the Dunkin Egg Tales. Oh, nice. Awesome. That's his writing too? That's his, yeah. He did three books. It was a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, which they just did.

They're going to do a sworn sword, and then it's the mystery night. I don't know anything, but I know a lot of Game of Thrones shit. Don't ask me about anything else. Game of Thrones and Star Wars. Listen, man, you're my go-to. The world's so fucked up. You're way better off with that stuff in your head. That's why I do it, man.

It's such an escape, man, just to sit home and watch TV. That's all I do, man. Sit down and watch TV. Speaking of Star Wars, I got a text that. out of nowhere from George, St. Pierre. He loves it as much as me. It was just about the new Darth Mall animated series. Oh, no, he...

Oh, he's got it. And then he gave me back a report. He told me, he's like, oh, it's so far, so good. I told you, my brother's like, I know Matt's in the Star Wars. Tell him watch the new Darth Mall. You know, Jamie said... It's fun. I love George.

He's the best. I have the hardest time convincing people who he is. It's hilarious. What do you mean? When he comes to the mothership and people that don't have done anything, about MMA. They're like, what does your friend do? I go, that is one of the greatest

fighters that ever walked the face of the air. 100%. You're like, no, for real, I go, yeah, 100% in everybody's list of one of the greatest of all time. And he's like, hello, nice to meet you. It just seems so sweet and friendly.

Man, that's the problem with MMA is that like you have to convince people about how bad somebody was and it wasn't that long ago. I mean, it wasn't that long ago that George St. Pierre was the fucking greatest of all time. No, wasn't that long ago.

And now, but the fans are so new. They don't get it. They don't go back and watch it. They had to watch, like, go back and watch the John Fitch fight. Oh, man. Prime GSP. Prime. He was terrifying.

Incredible gas tank. Great flow between grappling and striking. Very creative. He put that shit together the best. It's why he had such success taking everybody down. He would set it up his level change. And he always, he ran through every takedown. It was never shooting.

He was so good at that. He was going to run you across the cage. George was for, And then I think Farasa Hobby was a big part of that too. Farasa hobby's a bad motherfucker. Yeah, he's smart. You ever watch his YouTube breakdowns? Sometimes, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's incredible.

Very, very, very astute. He's so knowledgeable of the game, of every aspect of it, you know. His brother is doing well. Yeah, his brother's fighting at the White House. He's fighting Sean O'Malley, and I think people are sleeping on him. Well, listen, he keeps winning. Yeah. He keeps fucking winning.

The one fight that he had that was kind of a little controversial was Aldo. Remember, Aldo almost had an out. Yeah, for sure. I'm not sure he won that fun. Neither. Because I think they're not being generous enough with the 10-8s in the 10-7s.

They don't do it enough. None enough. When a guy just tunes you up for like a minute and a half of the round and you almost go unconscious, you know, like that means a lot. I hate the fact that they don't use it enough, all because like Dana was like, oh, I don't like it. And now the judges are just like, no, we can't do it because. Listen, the scoring system.

sucks because we stole it from boxing. It's not, it doesn't have enough points. For sure. It should be like, you should get like a certain amount of points for different things, but it would be really hard to calculate. Because there would have to be subjective, like if Pereira hits you,

it's way harder than if someone's like, you know, Paul Craig. Right, yeah, no disrespect. But you know what I'm saying? The consequences are very different. So if he hits you with a left hook, it's different than if Pereira hits you the left hook. So that's subjective. But in terms of like what happens in the fight, you should be counting in submission attempts. You should be counting in takedown attempts.

Like, who was more aggressive? Who is more defensive? Who implemented their strategy? You should have like 100 points to work with. Absolutely. They got 10 points. Why are we only using two of them? It's nice.

It's nice. It doesn't make any sense because there's 10-9 rounds that are like, ah, could be anybody. And there's 10-9 rounds where he dominated. That's nuts. See, like, UFC BJJ uses that. And it works better for that because they're very. very liberal with the 108s and 107s. They use it a lot.

They're like, if it's close, it's a 109. If it's one-sided, it's automatically a 10-8. So they use it a lot. That does make more sense. But even in BJJ, I would say you'd need more points. You need like, it's like the difference between a 70-30 round where a guy's dominating you 70% of time and a 51-49 round is fucking huge. Yeah.

It's huge and it doesn't reflect it in the scorecards at all. Yeah. So, like, you could win a 10-9 round the first round where it's like you're barely ahead. Like, maybe I'll give it to you. And then the second round, that dude fucks you up. And he gets a 10-9 round because you didn't go down. Yeah. But he's head-kicking you and you're blocking it.

You're getting teeped. Your legs are getting kicked all the time. It's still a 10-9 round? That's nuts. Just because you didn't go unconscious, just because you didn't get knocked down? I think it's my ADD's kicking in. But we're talking about the close calls, close scoring. I thought Aljo, I thought he should have got that nod against fucking.

I thought you. I thought so, too. I didn't think there was a. The guy got on the, he got one reversal at the end, like a minute 30 left, and Aljo was winning that whole first round. Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling expert. He could be undefeated at 145. He's a nightmare because if your whole thing is grappling with people and you got to grapple with

Aljo, you got problems. Yeah. That dude gets your back. He's got a death grip. I mean, him and Yon 10-8 round, like he was just on his back. Dominated him in that second round. And they don't know, how is that not a 10-8 round? He's fighting Yusuf, Salal.

Yeah, yeah, Yusuf's allowed. And that's on the 25th of April. But I mean, I think, you know, if it hits the ground, I think there's levels to this. Did Aljo over Yon in the second fight? Was that like the best anybody's ever done with Yon? Oh, yeah, straight. Right? For sure.

His control is just so good when it hits the floor. That's the difference between him and Mara. Mara. Mara keep getting you down up, down up. Right. Aljo hits the floor. Yeah, you're not getting it. He just needs back exposure.

He's one of those, some guys they can't jump up on the back. It's not good for them. They're going to get tired. Dude, all day long. He'll just go up there, lock that shit on. If he doesn't get you, that's his round. The Sanhagen fight was, what a masterpiece. His grappling is so, so good.

He doesn't get proper credit. No, this is backtake some of the best in the sport, period. Man, they're not a big fan of his. They don't push. They're such a nice guy. I know, he does everything right. He's such a nice guy. You know the one fight with the neck.

That was, I think that was turned everybody against him. Those people are wrong. His neck was fucked up. He had to get his disc replaced. I mean, he should have validated the entire thing by the whipping his ass in the second fight. But they already decided they're stuck on it. They already decided. He had to get his fucking disc replaced.

It was real. It was a real fucking injury. He should be, he could be a two-time chain, a double division champ. I mean, he's, in my mind, he's undefeated at 145. Look what he did to Calvin Cater, which was, the Calvin Cater is a beast, but it was, if you didn't know Calvin Cater, if that's just the first fight seeing him, you'd be like, oh, that guy doesn't belong here, which he obviously does, he's a beast, but Alja, which masterful.

He's know what it is. He's good at not getting hit, so it's like, he's not giving you that back and forth, because and Longo says, you've seen 20% of what he could do stand up, and stand it up. Like, I'd ask him something, what his, he's like, he could put. his foot wherever he wants it. Like, about a kick or something. He's just really, really talented man. I hope he gets his shot.

If he takes out, you know, Yousef, I hope he, they give him a shot again. Because I think he could be a two-time champ. Well, listen, he's still a bad motherfucker. Like, he's a nightmare for everybody. Especially if he gets a hold of you. Yeah. But, I mean, people look at the one fight losses.

They look at the Sean O'Malley fight. Like, Sean caught him perfect. That's just how it goes. And, you know, his head wasn't really. in that because he didn't even want to be there Nope. Why didn't he want to be there? They made him fight that fight. He didn't want to fight. They did like a whole documentary on it where it was like

they kind of twisted his arm to be like you got to do this and they were And he injured? I think he was injured There was a quick turnaround. It was too quick a turnaround. He's the champ he didn't feel he should be forced into You know when he thought the number he thought they He thought the pay-per-view numbers was going to make up for it. He thought he's going to get all of money from it because he was like all right i'll do it shone o'malley's going to bring in the numbers then he said when it was over he saw the numbers he was like if i knew the numbers was going to be like this

i don't think i'd have did it really yeah so it didn't do well it didn't do as well as he thought he was going to do based on Sean o'malley's presence listen man it it takes a lot to get people to pay for something today there's too much other ways to seal it this paramount thing is genius in that regard Is it all you have to do is have that app, which a lot of people have already anyway. Yeah. That's genius. But to make people pay every time to watch fights, like, there's so much to watch today. Well, that was the one thing that my people at ESPN told me.

It was like, it's a big difference between being popular and then having people pay to watch you fight. Yeah. Like, you can be popular, but they know by paying you to fight. So it's a big difference. It's a giant difference. Yeah. Yeah, it's a giant difference. I like that it's on Power.

I'm a fan, though. Yeah. Save your tons. of money. I used to pay for every one of them. Just Netflix thing is nice too. It's good to see that there's like someone who's willing to throw a lot of money at MMA in another large arena, you know, like Netflix. What are you doing guys? Gina versus Rhonda. I think round one submission Rhonda. Yeah. Unless she wants to try to just stand up with her, which I doubt. I hope not. I don't know what Gina's been doing. You know, I don't know how long.

She went without MMA training at all. You know, I don't know she was recently a little heavy. I could say that she was shubby Now does she look great now? She looks great she looks great she looks great she got in great shape She's still like 43 years old. Yes, come on. But the question is like what was she doing in those? Was she still training some? That would be my real question Because if you just put it all down and you walk away for 17 years, I got to go I mean, but with the with the weight loss, with the weight gain that she had, there was no way she was training. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, she's back in shape and she obviously is Bucks and her ayes to do that, but how long like you're saying, was she down? And she has to develop a

grappling defense to one of the best female grapplers ever? No, Rhonda's... Her only hope is to keep it on the feet. And I still think she'd be it. She would pull guard and sweeper. Or armlock her. Her arm locks are amazing. Her arm locks are amazing. They're preposterous. You know, I think there's too many, there's too big a level that. her arm bars. Remember that Kat Zangano fight?

Cat charged at her. Cat threw her. That was the craziest thing ever. Got her in arm bar, like instantaneously. Yeah, what a stupid strategy that was. Yeah, she blanked out on that one. So crazy. That was such a sick transition, too.

No, but I saw a video with Gina hitting pads with John Wood that was kind of recent. It did not look good. How recent was it? I don't know. I don't know, but it didn't look good. I was just like, oh. It's hard to tell where they're at. I hope this is older.

She's a big girl. Maybe she can stop her from. taking her down or something. But also, it's also, what were they doing? Were they just working on slow motion shit? Were they just trying to get a movement or were they getting in a hard mid workout? I mean, either way, like just like mechanically, it

didn't look great. Mechanically. So I mean, but it could have been, it's like one of them things were like, this could be like her comeback session and she's just trying to get warmed up. But who knows? I mean, you know, who knows? Maybe she's, who knows? You just never know. I hope so. Yeah. I hope it's better than that. Round one

submission. I mean, probably right. I mean, come on. I bet, you know, if you had a polymarket, you can make some money on that. There's going to be a lot of bets on that. It's exciting, though, that Netflix is doing it. That's what I like. I like that there's another place people can go.

But how sustainable is this, though? That's my biggest question. Whoever's putting the money up for this is going to lose their ass, I think. You think they're going to make that money back? Right, but here's the thing. It's Netflix. Right. So Netflix has an insane amount of money, and they keep raking it in.

Like, every month people are paying whatever they're paying. It's as high as, like, what, $19 for ad-free? What is it? How much does a Netflix account now? I think it just went up, right? Yeah, they're kind of going up. Oh, that money is just coming in every month. They just got to give people exciting things to want to watch,

and they'll keep making more money because more people use Netflix. Like, it would seem like they're going to lose their ass, but they're not, because they have a completely different business model. Obviously, I'm not a businessman. 899 to 2699 per month. In fact, I'm a terrible businessman. But I would imagine you'll just make money by giving people awesome shit so they keep tuning it to Netflix.

So in that sense, they're not going to lose any money. Because there's a lot of MMA fans that probably subscribe to Netflix just so they could watch that fight. Right. So who's on the card now? It's like Felipe Linz versus Inganu. Right. Yeah.

Mike Perry versus Nate Diaz. Right. Oh, and Robillus to Spain. Yeah, the Spaniadee Yeah, and Junior Los Santos That one That one is like Who is it?

Robela's Despagna. That tall karate combat dude He's a Taekwondo blackball from Cuba Wait, was Junior? Yeah, how old's junior? He's 50 now. Is he 50? He's close.

But he's in good shape I actually did a week spoke at a high school A couple of months ago Yeah, I'm glad to hear that I mean at least these guys Get an outlet to make some extra money Yeah, man.

Who doesn't want to see Diaz was a Adriano Morise is a, you know, that's a, the more guy that's probably going to school them. But, I mean, they got some, they're giving guys some opportunities. So you got to like this. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.

It'll be a big show. A lot of people tune in. Diaz and Perry is going to be fucking bananas. That'll be really fun to watch. Yeah, that's, I mean, that'll be worth the price of this. Imagine if it's 10 years ago that fight, it would be really amazing. It's like if the G LLA went to fucking, it came true. The NFL?

Remember that? They just stole all their talent. Bro, Diaz versus Perry guaranteed dog fight. Just a guaranteed dog fight. That will not be a boring fight. I think the jih Tzu is going to be too much. I kind of think that too. I kind of think Nate might just drag them deeper, right?

We're going to see. You know, we're going to see. Oh, it's five rounds. Five rounds. That's crazy. Five rounds is crazy. I wonder why they agreed on that. Interesting.

Why do I think they agree that? I didn't realize it. Is the Gina fight five rounds or is it three rounds? When they first announced it said five by five for everything, but they've changed a bit. So it says five by five right there? Yeah, just for those two, though. This one does not. Doesn't say that anymore?

No. And it also says this is the main event. I mean, I can't imagine. Joe was in a round for five rounds. Well, actually it does. There it does. It says it real hard to see it. Yeah, five by five professional.

Yeah. Okay. Bro, Lorenz Larkin back of the day. I remember he fought Neil Magny. He was hitting him with oblique kicks to the chest. And I was like, I do not think I've ever seen anybody throw it that way. You ever see that fight? No.

I don't remember that fight. He tuned Neil Magny up. Lorenz Larkin was a bad motherfucker. I do remember that. Like, he was so sharp. His striking was elite. Yeah. And he would, when he fought Neil Magne, he, you know, Neil Magne is a tough fucking dude.

Doreable guy. Durable, incredible discipline and endurance. Like, that dude's never out of shape. And he was just getting tuned. Look at this. I mean, he's throwing an oblique kick to the ribs. That one there, he just hit his arm and knocked him down with it. But earlier before that, he caught him on the rib cage with it.

Spot off! Look at that. Bro, that's crazy. He gave him a spot a kick. That's the second look at it. But right here, you're seeing him. He's blasting him with this kick that nobody throws like that. That's a crazy position to put your hips in.

That is crazy. He was sharp. How did this one end? He stopped him. Oh, did he? Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, Lorenz was all over him, man.

It was one of the prime performances that I've seen of him fight. Yeah, he had a good little run. He had a great run. During that run, and this was like, he came from Bellator, right? Yeah. And when he came out from Bellator, it was like he was still like red hot, like red hot. Yeah. Two guys that were in Belator, which is Pitbull and Aaron Pico.

They're getting ready to fight in his weekend. How much time do you think a guy like Pico's supposed to take off after Laron? We were just talking about that. Because I love his offense, man. He's a little raging bull. Animal. And strong, powerful. He just got caught.

And he got caught perfect. And he was just perfect. That's spinning elbow was... I think he got stopped more than once with a bad knockout like that? Yeah. He's been a fight ever. You don't want to go through your career. The kid from Kilcliffe.

Adam Burke? Yeah. Adam Berks. Yeah, he got him with a flying knee. Yeah. Damn, dude. You don't want too many of those. That's right.

But those put him out, man. You just see him just go, boop. Yeah. That Macy Barba one the other day. Whoa. That was just one of the greatest finishes in women's MMA history. Oh, no doubt. I wanted to reach out to Macy because I felt so bad.

I wanted to reach out to the doctor and say, what the fuck are you think? He's just so like, he's poking him with a fucking thing. So crazy. He's like, I'm like, guess I'm like, get some smell. I'm like, somebody, the cameraman, please get off this, or somebody talked to the doctor, because I don't know what the fuck. He was just over, like, man, this is fucked up. I don't think he knew exactly what was going on.

He probably has no experience in combat sports, right? He didn't realize that she got knocked out, and while she was out cold, she got strangled. She transitioned so fast. Like, she's out there. She's out cold already, and then she gets strangled. Like, that's never happened before. What's crazy is she was kind of still. reacting and then when they put her on her back she just it was well no she went limp as she was

trying to sit up she went limp you see right there like she was trying to get up and then as the guy has his arm around her she goes limp dude see there's like there's uh sea level cane and then there's south paul alexa when she fights south paul man she is dangerous then this confused doctor she's him right no i've seen this before hey crazy right he's like he's like he's like he Crazy. She's just, well, she's kind of coming to there, I think. She's blinking. That was just, holy shit.

And the speed that she took her back. Yeah. Left hand, boom, back, choke. Amazing. One shot while she was out still, cracked her again, got her back and choked her all like a lightning bolt. That was super impressive. But that's the same combination she hit Valentina with when she finished her. I feel like it's five minutes with us sitting there.

Left hand, boom, took her back. It took her a while. It took her longer, but look at this. So she's in trouble. Bam, right there. Out cold and then strangled. I don't think that combination of out cold and then strangled has ever happened before. No.

Because, I mean, she's seen what? This punch you, that's out cold, right? And then, boom. Sick. No, that's crazy. Crazy. Wow. She's tough, man.

Oh, man. All backwards in front of you after the knocked out, you know. Well, so here's the thing She gets up and when she gets up I think she faints Like I think she tries to get up And then he Mike puts his arm around her and she's out

I think she fainted That's just scary That's scary And she also had had some problems before With seizures Yeah She had to pull out of that fight with Aaron Blanchfield She had a seizure in the locker room

So they still allow her to fight Even though she's had seizures That's pretty crazy It depends on what's causing the seizures, right? If they know it's a medication that she was on, they get her off the medication. Like, I don't know what causes seizures. Well, that's just not going to help the seizures.

But it certainly wouldn't make me enthusiastic about fighting. It would have to fuck with your motivation if you're already having seizures. I wouldn't want to do it. And now after that, I wouldn't want to do it. Anytime you fight, that's a possibility. Yep. I mean, look at a guy who never once looked at took anything remotely. like that like Kamara Usman

and even in a fight where he's just doing so great and then that's the closest thing I seen to that which when he got stopped with that head kick and you know that's a possibility any time you make that walk that's why you got that fucking little feeling in you

you know before you walk out there the Kamara one was nuts too because John Anick was just saying because DC was like a lot of people would quit in this situation and John Anick said something along the lines of, but that is not the cloth from which he was cut. I know. And then as soon as

I mean that was like the most perfect timing ever. Ever. Like a movie. Like if you saw that in a movie like, shut up. Because I just came in and was like, yeah, I think he's broke. And then DC was saying it. And then John intervened with, he's not cut from that cloth. And boom.

Head kick. It was nuts. What is that new? Russell Crow's doing a new MMA movie. Yeah. Is that going to be? Is that supposed to be the UFC? No, I think it's supposed to be one. Yeah, one-em-se. Oh, yeah.

Interesting. Yeah, what that's going to be good? Yeah, but I mean, like, the fighter is like my age. I'm like, yo, what's going on here? Coming back. Like Randy Cotour won the title in his 40s, you know? Yeah, man. One has some wild striking fights, man.

Some of the absolute best stand-up fights in the world are happening on one. I watch it all the time. I never know when that shit's on. Where do you watch it? There's this fucking cat out of Dagestan. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Asodula, Imangazza. Aliyev?

Bro. This dude is, I think he's 135 pounds. I think that's what he fights at. And he's like 6'1. And just a laser beam striker. I just fucks people up. Like literally might be the best striker in the world. Is it just kickboxing?

Yeah. And he's getting in there with moitai. He's getting in there with world moitai champions and KO in them. Like three-time world Lumpini Moitai champions. Damn. Limpini Stadium guys. This guy is a fucking straight killer, dude. And he's from Dagestan, and he can wrestle.

Damn. You got to see if he can find, like, a highlight reel of his chaos. Because this is just, like, get on YouTube. The body shot was nasty. I watch this cat every time he fights. I just can't. He's so fucking accurate and he's so slick. How old is he?

He's 22. Oh, damn. Yeah, man, I'm telling you, this 22-year-old cat from Dagestan might be the best striker on Earth right now. This dude is so impressive And I'm telling you He's doing this to do To our world champions

Oh shit He's taking out world champion Kickboxers World champion Muay Thai fighters They're putting him in there with these Fucking assassins And he's making them all go night night Oh

Bro you got to see it in real speed Like you see his real movements It's so impressive Is he with Habib and M though I don't know where he's training out of But he's from Dagestan Bro He looks like Zabit

Yes Like a little bit more Robust Zabit But it's like It's different Like Zabit had more of a You know He had an incredible style

But it was almost like More Taekwondoish This guy's pure Muay Thai But he just fucks people up man Accurate too Oh he's spinning heel kicks Everything Neas the body

But it's the combinations The way he's throwing them He just finds these openings On people With this precision That you're like Mother fuck man.

It keeps the pressure. Damn. He keeps the pressure on too. He just flatlined folks. One after another flatlining people. Oh man. Bro, he's very fucking impressive.

And again, very impressive against world championship caliber moitai fighters. These are not scrubs that he's fighting. Damn. And one's putting these fights on all the time. And I was trying to tell Dana this. I was like, if you guys had

UFC striking, do you know how fucking exciting that would be? If just moitai with MMA gloves on. Well, they should do that. They're doing the BJJ now. 100%. They're missing out on a giant opportunity because how many people boo when a fight goes to the ground? Boo.

These guys never go to the ground. Right. It's just all stand up. And kickboxing is so much more brutal than boxing. Way more brutal. Yeah. It just didn't get a fair shake in America. I know.

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I could people bitch about ComZot. I could watch him do that to Drake us all day long. I don't give a shit. That's masterful. Masterful. Get him off you. Yeah, that's right. Get up.

People are like, oh, that's a shame and he doesn't take chances. Dude, get, he's not like he's not trying to beat the shit out of him. He's getting him tied up and he's beating him up and he's just, he's working him over. I mean, what do you want him to stand up in the crucifix? Yeah, what are you talking about it? Yeah, I mean, that's Drichus's his problem. Like, Drichis need to get him. Yeah, 100%.

And I don't, I don't believe in standups at all, period. I think the only time you should stand up is someone fouls. If someone does a foul and then, yeah. You have to stand it up, take a point away from them. Maybe then you stand them up. Yeah. You shouldn't reward a guy for having, like, a shit defense. If the dude on the bottom is the one that failed, put him back where they were.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right, yeah, definitely. But other than that, why are you letting people stand up? Why? The guy had to work so hard to get him to the ground. Maybe he's taking a break for a couple seconds and catch his breath. Yeah. You know, like, what the fuck do you want? Yeah.

Like, figure out how to get up. Yeah. Bottom people just have to be better. Also, you know how to fix that? Here's how you fix that. Knees to the head to a down to pot. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Then it's like, it's all out of the... Wrestlers, then wrestlers become super fucking dangerous. Mark Coleman won the Grand Prix with that shit. Didn't you see the smash machine? Yeah, bro. Did you like the smashing machine? I did. It was good.

I did. I thought the rock was amazing. I thought like his acting, like, like you didn't think it was the rock, you know? I haven't seen it yet. You thought it was Mark Kerr. Like, he even got a forehead thing. Yeah. You got like rubber put on.

his forehead or whatever the fuck. Give him a little like, yeah, make him more Neanderthal, a little cromeagnon. Give him a little Frankenstein forehead. It's almost scene by scene. It was almost like the same, pretty much the same exact thing as the documentary.

It was really good. The documentary, it's like the same shots, the same story. So if you've seen the documentary, which was great. Yeah, Caird was a great guest. I had him in the podcast. He was fun. It was really cool guest, you know. No kidding.

Yeah, he was really fun. It's just a real intelligent. to talk to. Like, where does he live now? Like, I forget. Is Arizona? Bro, I saw him in early UFC's when I was a backstage interviewer. He submitted Dan Bobish with his chin to his eye. I remember that. I remember that. That was crazy. I remember when he came on the scene, well, the UFC scene when it, with the old Ranger Stott needed a face knock out. Yeah, that guy. I remember Rip Rules as well. We were about to find out. Morty Hyenstein or something like that, the karate.

Hornstein. I don't know, man. My favorite Mark Kerf fight was against Fabio Gertel down in Brazil. That was crazy. That's where he got his name. Yeah, man, that's my shit. I was a big Fabio fan. I mean, if you can't have respect for that guy after that beating, he took.

Never fucking thought about quitting. Crazy. Yeah. Headbats and everything. Who said yes to that? Yeah, right? Let me pull you guys aside. No, explain physics.

Yeah. And now? I need to introduce you to steroids. That was the Kaban, physics and steroids. And like, no, you're not fighting, Mark Kerr. If you look at the time, that's when Jiu Chetsu still had that mystique about it. It's true. You know, back when they weren't really losing.

But that's when it's like the beginning of the end of like the guard started for MMA. It was like that. Because like those big wrestlers were just like, oh, you mean all I do is block his hips? And I can't do shit? Yeah. After that fight, there was, do you remember when Mario Sperry fought Igor Zenovi? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So Mario Sparry is like one of the first jujitsu black belts to lose in MMA. That's right, yes. We all thought jujitsu black belts were invincible, right? And Mario Sperry was elite. He was a really good black belt. Yeah. And so he fought Zenoviov and Zinov stopped him. I remember that, yeah.

And Mario was doing everything right, mounting him correctly, but then he would just do one of those weird, like, super big bridges. And then his, because he had endurance and he was able to just withstand his attack, he, He ended up cutting them or something towards the end. Yeah, it was a big cut. They stopped it from a cut, right? Speaking of old school guys, guess who was at the UFC last week? Marillo Boosterich?

Oh, yes. He was cornered in there, Jose Delano. Yes. He made him tap twice. Yeah. He also fought 45 minutes. Tom Erickson for 45 minutes. Oh, yeah.

I thought Marilla beat Chuck Ladell too. Honestly, in that fight. He might have, yeah. He was a bad motherfucker. He was really good boxing and insane jiu-jitsu, but really good boxing. One of the first guys from like that Carlson Gracie team along with Vitor. Good wrestler, too.

Like, he had good takedowns for a jiu-jitsu guy too. But that's my point. So he's at the UFC just cornering Jose Delano. And like, no one knows who he is. And I'm like, yo, I need to give a lesson on this guy. Like, he's one of my favorite fighters of all time. But no one knows who he is. That's crazy.

He's a legend. But, you know, there's so many people now that's like time just goes. Yeah, just no one cares. What a bunch of killers Carlson had back in the day, man. Dude, I was at his school in 96 when all that was going down, when right before Vitor got into the sea. Spario, La Boreto. Carlo Barreto.

Yeah, Carlos was trained there. Yeah, yeah. Sergio Cohen. He had a bunch of beasts, man, and we would watch them all train together. Mario Sperry was telling us a story about how he, when he was just starting out in Jiu-Jitsu, he made his girlfriend sit there and he just put her in. triangle after triangle after triangle she kept complaining

watching TV just practicing triangles on his girlfriend We were lucky to We were talking last night about how fortunate we were to come up when we did You know and like even back at Henzo's and you had Henzo You had Hyne coming through

You had half coming through you had Matt You had Ricardo you had Sean Alvarez Like we just had a ton of killers You know and back then I always joke about the tapout shit But if you saw somebody in an airport in the 90s with a tapout shirt on You were like where you train Then now then it went to like J.C. fucking pennies

Which is cool because it was Yeah Except forever 21 But it was pretty wild I had some tapout charts Everybody did Right Those guys were fun

Yeah definitely It was a weird time That time of MMA if you go back to like Like even when like you and I first met I was like when yet what year was that 2001 we met crazy That's crazy Because you weren't a commentator yet

But I fought Kelly Delante And you gave me a nice shout out I remember We need more of that jungle Jiu-Jitsu Like Matt Serra did When you toured I bought it up Yeah that's funny That was that was 2001

Because I mailed you a shirt Yeah that's right And then you called the academy And I'm like oh what's up That was funny man It's crazy But jih Tzu is so physical then.

Like it was a physical thing. Now it's so intellectual and like these nerds think they own it. Autistic kids got old jujitsu. And I don't think they own it. And it's like, yo, what are you talking about? They start talking about technique. It's like they're talking chest moves. Yeah. If you don't know the name, they're like, you don't

know that? It's like, dude, I know that's... What's the... When you're going for the... They call it the K-guard. I'm like, shit, man. I've been doing it since the 90s, man. Right. At first, I'm like, oh, what's the thing? They don't know the K-Guard? Then they show it, I go, well, yeah, it's never called it the fucking K-Gagra.

Yeah. But it's funny, you bring up Marilla Bustamante, we talked about Fabio-Giselle. Back then, and I know Jiu-Jitsu evolved, but if you take those guys, you put them in the Abu Dhabi, submission tournament, you put them in the BJJ, I-BJJ-F, and you put them in an MMA fight, their jiu-chitsu is the same. It carries over to all. And they may not win, but they're competitive. Yeah, but they can have a hard-rown, right?

game that can have it across the board where somebody who's just used to scissoring or just used to the legs. You know what I mean? That can transfer over it. Here's what fucks my head up. If you gunned to my head said to me, who do you think has the best jujitsu in MMA right now? My head would go Charles Oliver.

I was getting ready. But Islam Makachev finished him on the ground. So how can I say that? Right. So it fucks my head up because I'm like, if you think about like elite expressions of Jiu-Jitsu in the ground, like one of the most dangerous guys off his back, Oliver. Oliver is so dangerous everywhere. If he gets on top of you, you're fucked.

I mean, it was just that Max Holloway's defense is so tight and he's so tough that he didn't get finished. Right. A lot of dudes would have been out of him. How crazy it was that he was able to just manhandle him and take him down? I mean, Max, nobody took Max down like that. He manhandled him. It was bananas.

But I think Max is a guy that is like he can fight at 45. I think it was really hard when he went up to 55 and then went down to 45. But at 45 in his prime, it was a perfect weight class for him. When Oliver was fighting at 45, he was killing himself. Like he fought like, he just was fatigued easier. But then when he went up to 55, then he became Charles Olivera. You know, it was really all at 55 where he made his mark. He tried that shit, though, with Ilya.

He did try to take him down. and he tried to know. He's a different animal. He's in another level. Yeah, for sure. He's on another level. Super well-rounded, and people haven't really even seen that yet. He's on a level where I can't wait for his next fights.

Like, when he's fighting, I'm like, what is he going to do now? Yeah. Like, what is, because I think he's getting better. I think it's not just, I think the dude is like their approach to it. There's a documentary on YouTube. But they're, like, talking about how they break down all their fight camps and what they're doing and the different stuff that they train in. Like, these dudes are on another level.

I mean, when you think about, like, if a fight between, like, Ilya and Islam were to happen, like, think about, like, the magnitude of that of, like, not only just, like, star power, but just in terms of skill. Oh, my God. Like, breaking that down, like, in terms of skill. Oh, my God. Like, two of the best skilled fighters of all time.

Of all time. Yeah. That would be an insane fight. And I just really would like it if it happened to be at 55. Like, Ilya at 170 is a little unrealistic. Yeah, yeah, for sure. If 55 would be better. Because Islam at 170 is probably walking around a buck ninety six.

For sure. Yeah. Fucking jacked. I think Armand should be spoken about too. 100%. Yeah. Look how he thought. And he had a pretty good fight with Islam back when he, how many years ago?

He was like 21. Yeah. He was, I mean, scrambles. Although I do have to say, if the scoring was correct, I think, I think Oliver would have beat him in that fight because Olivera threatened him with submissions. That is true. A couple times. That's true.

A couple times. Like, that to me is more valuable than holding a guy down. Did Armin threaten he had an arm choke with him? No. He was kind of on the run, but he was kind of on the run more often than we remember. Armin was? Yeah. In terms of like inside the guard of Oliver.

Like, he was kind of, you know, he was on the run. It's dangerous in there, man. It's not like everybody else's. Like, there's only a few guys like him and, you know, Paul Craig. Bro, Paul Craig could latch on a fucking truck. Like that guy's beating world champions. Yeah. Think about it.

He beat Jamal. He broke his arm. He beat Ankyov. Uncle Ayov. Stopped him with like one second to go in the third round with a triangle. Yeah. He might have one of the best try. What was that one dude from back in the day that won all his fights by triangle?

Dustin. No, English guy. Yeah. I know exactly who you're talking about. Oh my God, it's going to drive me next. The little skinny English guy. Yes. He like was all triangles, like 11 triangles in a real.

Yeah. He had this one move, but if he can get you to the ground and latch his legs around you, you are Fuxville. Paul Sass. Yeah, Paul Sass. Shout out to Paul Sass. Yeah, he was a beast. You get you in that triangle. You're fucked.

And the Fabricio redumes another one, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he was that he triangled Fador when Fadour was Fadour. I always tell people, if you want to look at one of all-time greats in heavyweight, don't look at all losses and shit. Stop right here in the prime. who has tapped out more legends than Fabrice Ovidum. Minotaro, Fador, I mean, that is crazy. Just those two, Cain Velasquez?

Yeah, that's true. He's tapped out all the legends. And they weren't past the prime either. Fadro was securely in his prime. I remember watching that live thinking, oh my God. Oh, my God. He ran right into it. He ran right into it.

He literally did jump into it. Brilliant. His jiu-jitsu was like scary off his back. Fador had no respect for the guard. Just, you know, was trying to take his head off and just fed it to him. Yeah, man. He can't do that with a guy. Not a guy like that.

That's a different level. And plus, he hit Colby in the head with a boomerang. Remember that? There's nothing wrong with that. Give him some points for that as well. That was my favorite video of all the time. Because he hit him with the boomerang and then the bag. And then Colby was reaching out for the bag.

Yeah. You got to give him some points for that. At all the people that I thought I was definitely going to see on the White House lawn. It was going to be a Colby coming in a fight. I was like, how did you not have a Colby Covington fight at the White House? And I don't know. He's like super supportive of Trump, whereas Trump hats everywhere. And he's not a fight.

They didn't get him up. They didn't hook him up. I don't know. How did that not happen? I think Bo Nichol wanted to fight him. Yeah, but that's a different weight class. Bo Nichol's a big dude. He's at 85.

He's an 85er. That's a, you know, Colby's not a big 70. Is he set to fight anybody? Is he set to fight anybody with him in a wrestling match? Yeah, that's going to be interesting. Yeah, I think Chris, a little big for him. Yeah, and I think that should go well for a while. Who is Joaquin fighting next?

Brady, Sean Brady. Is that in my am? No. No, that's in Jersey. In Jersey. Yeah, that's right. I'll be out of feeling next week with Brady. Shout out. Wachim was on a tear until Camarro got a hold of him.

Shout out to Brady. That's why that's one of his shirts. The two guys that are most worthy for a shot at the Welterweight title, I mean, you got to think Ian Gary, but you also got to think Camaro because he doesn't have much time left and he's a legend right one of the greatest welterweights

of all time and then he just beats Joaquin Buckley like that like Joaquin Buckley's a fucking monster Buckley was on the fast rise to Camaro that Wonderboy that he beat the shit out of Colby bro beat the shit out of him but Joaquin doesn't get tired either

which is crazy like you look at his physique yeah you think he gets tired he'll get cast out he just his he keeps that gas going for three fucking rounds. Full clip. Yeah, believe you. I know I've been watching them. I've been watching them for a month now.

No, Sean Brady, I think. Old Turtle Shell. Yeah, yeah. That back of his is so preposterous. He's staying at that weight, right? Yeah, he's not going down. Yeah. What about Oldberg and Jerry this weekend?

You know what, man? If you're looking at it on paper, If you just watch their movements, Olberg is really fast. He's really accurate. And he's slick, and he's a big, tall motherfucker with great skills. Yuri creates chaos.

And in that chaos, you don't know exactly how someone's going to respond when the guy's still there, when you crack him, and he's all over you, and he's doing wild shit. He's got a fucking ponytail at the top of his head. He's a maniac. But he's not faking it. Oh, no. He believes everything he says.

That dude, that's how that dude really lives. Like, he really does hit trees in the woods. He goes out there with a makiwara. He does all the hard style Japanese shit, and, you know, he spends time in the woods by himself alone. He does, uh, he swims under the ice. He does the... I saw that.

I actually saw a video. Like, fuck that, dude. I mean, you have to find where the hole is, and you got to come back. We had some people in there, too, just in case. He didn't that crazy. Listen, man, just look. at that dude, his ancestors

came over on a boat with a skull on it and they had fucking swords and they hopped off and started slicing people up. All them guys. That dude is a motherfucking Viking. Whatever he is, those warrior jeans, like that's in that that dude takes you to hell.

He just can't do it with Alex. He guts his way. That's it. That style just doesn't work with Pereira. That's what I'm wondering does he walk into one here because he's going to get hit. Khalil beat the living shit out of them for two rounds and then O'Berg, ran out of gas.

O'Berg's a big guy, too. Khalil's not a big, you know. If you look at him in comparison to some of the other guys in that way class. He can make 85. Here's one that people are sleeping on. Merzacconnell. Yeah.

You think, who? I'm leaning. I'm leaning in Palo's way. You almost sold me on that yesterday. But Merseeked kind of meant undefeated. Undefeated. Let me tell you something.

37 and fought nobody. I'm riding it. That's true. He put Rockish to sleep, though. Yeah. He put Rockies to sleep in the first round. Dude, he's slick. He does shit in there.

I'm like, he calls himself the professional. And it's like he seems like a hitman, like some Russian hitman the tire that comes to fucking kill people. He believes in his power. That's a fact. It's not just his power, man. It's his skills. When I look at him, I'm like, this is a smart guy.

Like he moves like a smart guy. Everything's calculated. Everything's technical. He's really hard to hit clean. He's a slick character And he does shit too Like he overreaches But he overreaches

I think on purpose To get reeds off you If he senses the guy's moving away He'll come in with big shots And he doesn't intend To try to get you to react And then counter Like that right hook that he hit him with

It was almost like a jab Yeah That he dropped Rockets with Yeah Just saw this movement That Rockich kept Doing over and over again Bang

Came in with like a straight right jab Almost like a hook jab Pallow's got a chin Look at that. Watch that again. Look how sleek this is. Boom! He's a killer, man.

We don't know what Paula Costa's going to look like at 205, though. He's never fought it that way. Well, it didn't he once when he did make weight for 85 against Marvin Vittori. Yeah, yeah. He forced Marvin Vittoria. He was like, no, this fight is in 205 now. Bro, Izzy fucked his mind up, I think. He definitely did.

But he looked the best he's looked his last fight. Like, he coppilov, he just ran through him. Dude, you go back to when he was walking. people down like walk down Yoel Romero. Paul Costa was a, he was a bizarre. I remember when he saluted Paul, Yoel Romero in the middle of the fight, that was my favorite part. Yeah, that was a great fight.

Yeah, it was a good fight. That was a great fight. But nobody walks down Yoel Romero like that. Yeah, I'm kidding. There's that one photo of him head kicking, Yol, and YOL's face is like all distorted. And you're like, how did he take that shot? This is neck.

You know, his neck is fused. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's all one piece. It doesn't move. It's connected to his, skull. That's crazy. Yeah. Isn't that nuts?

He's sending these comments. Look at that photo. That photo's bonkers. Imagine how tough you've got to be to Yuel Romero and take that to the head when you know your neck has been through an insane operation

where you have metal connecting the fucking spine of your neck to your head. They implanted monster traps to hold his head. Yeah, yeah. He's such a freak. Yeah, he is. athletic freak.

And you see, he just fought bare and uncle? Yeah, in 49. Yeah, and a lot of people disputed the decision. They thought he should have won. Yeah. In Russia. Yeah, I don't know. Yo-O. Romero is a bad motherfucker.

I don't know how he does it. He looks great. Yeah, I don't know how he does it. If you told me he was 32, I believe you. He's R-A-F as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, who did he beat Pat Downey? And then he came back, and he had that he lost the next one.

Yeah. But he was wrestled a legit dude. Dude, the guy that I'm most impressed with in that is Armand. Oh, I can't believe how good he is as a wrestler. Yeah. Who's the duty tech fault? Georgio. Georgio.

No, no, no. Lance. Oh, Lance Palmer. That's right. Oh, Lance Palmer's a legit wrestler. Bro. Yeah, Lance is a legit wrestler. For sure.

Lance was like, oh, he's never wrestled at my level. He's never wrestled guys in my level. Armin goes up there and Tech Falls him, bro. Georgio did better. Yeah. But even Georgia. Like you watch those videos that he does Where it's like about $100 to me now

Yeah,000 or whatever it is Yeah Armin is a fucking bad man dude He's a bad man I know it then Yeah If you want to fight for Ilya At 55 that's a very interesting fight

For sure Very interesting fight so Because he's hard to hit He's very slick and technical Super flexible Like you ever see those weird Like mobility exercises he does With twists and shit

With weights Crazy yeah Yeah It's crazy flexibility He's definitely in his prime, man He can't waste his life away right now Stop headbutton people Yeah, just do the right thing

Because you are in your prime right now And it doesn't last forever He probably he might already be champ If he could keep it together outside of the cage You know what I mean Like if the who knows what would have happened In the Oliver fight It was a proper fight

A five rounder you know He's staying busy though It's not like he's on the couch He's smart He's doing those videos with things Yeah yeah He put Mokai have to sleep A couple weeks ago yeah

Oh that was a little too much That was a lot. He kept that on too long. Yeah. But like he kept it, whenever they keep it on when the guys are already sleeping for too long, it's like, yeah, what's going on here? You know, you got to know he's out. What the fuck's happening? Maybe some unkind words were exchanged.

That's kind of my fault process. That doesn't have to like each other. Sure, that happened. Mokai was a hothead. Yeah. He's been known to say some things. Did he get kicked out of the UFC for? What happened with him?

I heard he was just, like, mean to people, like, mean to the staff. That's what I heard he was just like mean to the staff. You know, I wasn't even talk. I was talking about when he did it to a streamer. I'm not talking about that fight. Oh, we're talking about it. No, no, no. I'm talking about him doing it to, like, just putting somebody to sleep of his friends, the guys with his other.

I don't think I sold it. He was, him on a couch, and he put the guy to sleep. This is a regular Joe. Armine did this? Yeah, man. Jamie? No, no, no. Sorry, Jamie.

I'm not putting it on, Jamie. But, yo, yo, he put him to sleep, and he held that shit on for an extra, too many seconds. Look at this. Watch this. No, no, I'm telling you. Do you tell me if you think it's too long? That guy's neck makes me sad. But now look.

To know that he's going to do that to him. Now look, he goes to sleep. Now, ready? Let's see. Now he's out, right? He's last in a long time. Yo, neck down, man. What the fuck?

He's out already. Oh, that's really crazy. Been out. That's really crazy. You are Kimmel. That's really crazy. Yeah, that's so unnecessary. That's what I'm saying.

What the fuck? Yeah, that's a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Sorry, guys, I hate to bring the room down, but I'm going to use. The crazy thing is Armine knows he was out right away. Dude, that's what I'm talking about. Also, that guy's neck looks like it's never been choked.

I felt sad for what he was going to do to it. When I saw his neck, his neck is making me feel sad because I know that's going to hurt. That fucking gorilla, that dude's got a clamp on him, man. Little fuck is having soup for a week after that. Yeah, right?

That's a problem. Armand's fucking gritty. It's so incredible, man. I'm just very impressed with him, man. Very impressed with his grappling. I just wish he could keep it together. Yeah. I mean, his striking's not bad neither.

Like, he's okay. His first wife, but Islam was very close. Very close. First fight in the UFC. I don't even think you got a full camp. Probably not. I think it was a short-notice fight. And he fought very well.

You know, he's at the... It's just like crazy that fuck-ups have kept him from being at the time. The missing the title fight was the big one. Yeah. That was the craziest one. Like his back hurt. the day before. Like, come on.

It's crazy. Yeah. And you make a nod to Moikano go out there and not having prepared for him. He's good. Mekano look good against Duncan. Money.

Yeah. Money was getting on the mic. I like what he gets on that mic too. He says talking shit. He's awesome. I wish he would have started talking shit even earlier. Like, I always liked the guy,

but he's fucking hilarious. He might be the best in the business right now. He's funny, man. He's just not getting enough mic time. He needs more mic time. When he gets on the mic time. Money fucking Moikano It's Sterling

Their podcasts He's good You know he's good on there With him and I think Gilbert You know they all fucking bullshit That's the thing He's doing some streams on He's doing them in English

And in Portuguese But the Portuguese is doing better for them And he's like I'm making money off YouTube now Like so I don't care anymore I have my money Like I have a big stream of revenue Coming in from YouTube

Subscribe to my channel Motherfuckers Hey me motherfucker He's a character You need that. You need some personalities in that. Fuck yeah. He's good, too, remember?

Like, his fight with Benoit Sandini. Oh, yeah. Right? He marked him. Right? He marked him. San Danes is on his way to potential future title shop. That win looks real good.

Real good. You can't judge him on that short notice shit. I know. What do you guys think of? Hukets. He's so fun? He's so fun? He's so fun?

I think it's fun. I don't get it, man. I don't get it. I don't get it. Who are you talking about? I'm all four talking shit. It's not witty. It's not like it ain't funny.

It ain't witty. It looks like he's trying too hard. Exactly. I love it. No, I don't get it. He's like a pro wrestler. He's like pro russing. He's a smart dude.

Bro, you talk to that guy. He's a smart dude. He knows what he's doing. He's being a goof. And here's the thing about people that act really goofy and stupid. You kind of, you go, oh, that guy ain't shit. Like they can trick you. They can trick you.

You think he's going to beat Curtis? I don't know, man. Curtis is a lot. You know, it's a big step up. Especially this early in his career. Curtis has a lot of power. He's a big fucking dude. He's a better wrestler, probably.

He's a lot of MMA experience. But Hokit's a hard dude to solve. He's a really good wrestler, and he's fucking hyper-aggressive, and he's got... He's fast, too. He's a good base on it. He's fast. He's athletic. He's one of the guys that I have my eye on.

You think he can make 205, or you think he should... I mean, well, heavyweight's light, so... Perhaps. Maybe stay there. But really, we're just waiting for Gable. Yeah. Yeah. We're ready.

He's getting Romanolv, I think, is right? wrestling him and R&RF. I would not let him do that. I'd be like, what if you blow your ACL off? Yeah. What are you crazy?

Why are you doing this? You're going to be the heavyweight champion to the UFC. They've got to be paying. And Romanov's a big dude, man. Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, I think

Gid would, I think he'll be fine. But when you think of guys that are like a Mike Tyson in M.MA, like when Mike Tyson was coming up, that's what I think of when I see him. Yeah.

I'm like, how do you deal with that? Right. How the fuck do you deal with that? He moves like a cat. He's 240 pounds. Olympic gold medalist and he can K-O you smart-ass guy in his corner he's got John Jones as a mentor Are you fucking crazy fight IQ John's you know he's the highest one of the smartest guys Yeah you got that guy in your corner and everybody's saying I mean he's on the only guys that isn't even in the UFC yet that I had him on my podcast

I was like I got to talk I mean he's accomplished I think enough anyway He's already a fucking Olympic gold medalist NCAA champion He's young got to be mid 20s. Oh wow he's young he's young and he there's a They're doing it smart. You know, they gave him one of those, what do they call? Dirty boxing? Dirty boxing fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dude, did you see jump over? Jumped over the rope like it was nothing. It was pretty sick. He's such an athlete. He just stood there and leapt over the ropes after he won. And landed perfect. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like the Hulk. Dude, after he would, he won the NCAA championships. Like he can do like roundoffs and like the shit, like literally, boom, boom, boom, like a gymnast. It's fucking crazy. And I guarantee you that. attribute to the speed that he has and covering distance. He's dangerous, man.

Watch this. Watch this. Watch when he goes over this rope. That's crazy. I mean, that is crazy. He just stuck the landing and started twerking. Effortlessly. He's a monster, dude.

Real hard problem for people to solve. He wrestled named Gable. You better fucking be good. And named after Dan Gable. After Dan Gable. So he's been wrestling since he's a, toddler and he's just such a fucking athlete and so smart just dedicated did they're doing it smart too they're not just jumping him into the UFC right away he's

getting famous outside the UFC that's the way to do it sure that way you try to bring him along as much as you can yeah fuck your 10 and 10 come on son well when they sell them they got to get they're gonna give him more than that but the thing is you don't yeah he ain't get some people are of the opinion that you don't want to give a young fighter too much money early because it'll ruin their There's true that, but I mean there's truth that, but I mean it's not who's that for you to say though You know what I want my money exactly you don't get to determine that and I want my money Guess what I think the cream will still rise to the top I think the guys that are dedicated that have a lot like Floyd Mayweather when he was worth hundreds of millions of dollars would still never drink and

Run home from the club from the club so people driving his Rolls Royce is running behind it Yeah, I mean look at look at Armin man that guy's got money yeah give a shit got a private chat Yeah he's just Armand's got a private jet. At least he's always on a private jet. Seems like that. Jesus. Yeah, I think he's got some cash in it.

His family has tons of money. Yeah. But he still has the desire to be the best. Yeah, exactly. It's either in you or it's not with that, you know? Maybe that's why he can't get his attitude together too. Perhaps, right? He doesn't need it.

Yeah. A bit spoiled in that way, right? Yeah. Who's disciplining him? You know what I mean? He runs his town, I'm sure. What do you guys think about Hamzot and Strickland? Well, let me tell you.

This comes down to Strickland's motivation. Well, I mean, you've got to be fucking motivated. How many more shots is he going to get? Yeah, but I mean, he's worked with him before. I mean, I know they say that Comzat submitted him, but if you hear Strickland talk about it, they were doing positional rounds when you're starting on the back. It started on his back.

I mean, come on. But I think when they moved around, I think he feels pretty confident with it. He's a hard guy to keep down, Sean. Yeah. And who made Combs out look human? Gilbert Burns, Kamara Usman.

I mean, they made him look human, you know, and Dracus, again, you don't want to see that rematch, but in that fifth round, but in that fifth round,

he did get into some decent positions. He just got reversed right away. I mean, Sean, if there's any bit of blood in the water, he's fucking a finisher, you know what I mean? He'll stay on him or if he's hurt at all. He's durable.

I mean, and everybody's saying how underrated he's grappling is the guys that are working with him. So I mean it's all I've heard too and he's so hard to hit man He's got a weird style It's very weird it fucks you up and he's really good at moving back away from shots on He's circling out while the hands are in your face Yeah it's weird he also throws like looping shots on purpose sometimes like you would think it's bad technique

But he's like finding a way around your guard Yeah, yeah He's catching you with weird stuff and his fucking jab is on point Is that fluffy find you did you were you at the front? Where's you calling that one? No no I was there for that and you You could hear it. Like, you don't always hear that.

He was smashing fluffy. You could hear the thud in his jab when Fluffy was blocking him. And it was hard. He was mixing his kicks in there well. He's going to have to watch that. And he wasn't getting hit, man. The thing about him, if you watch him when he's on point, he's so fucking hard to hit. He just fucked up with Alex.

You just can't make any mistakes with Alex. It seems like everybody fucks up with Alex. He's the freak. He doesn't negotiate with you. He's just like, you fuck up, it's over. Do you think that, um, Do you think that translates to heavyweight with gone? I don't think so.

I think gone is a little bit too scary. I think God would decision him. Good chance of fucking dancing and jabbing his weight of victory. But that's what I'm saying. Like, gone is going to like, he's not going to play that game. I think Alex will fucking put him out. Here's one thing is gone has been 185 pounds since he was 12. Right.

Yeah. I mean, that's a big heavyweight, athletic, moves like a cat. And he's got world-class striking skills, man. Tom Aspinall fight, that first round opened up a lot of eyes. Like, he looked fucking good, man. He opened eyes all right. Open up fucking Tom's eyes. Hey, dude, I feel bad for Tom, man.

Me too. Talk about a guy that got the shit into the stick. I'm knuckled deep in his fucking eyes. Two surgeries. And everybody's like, ah, walk it off. Fucking poor guy. Really was. I just think that was handled poorly right after the fact.

you know, I think you have to address right after the fact that you have to probably tell people, look, what kind of injuries can be sustained from this? They're permanent. Look at Michael Bisbank, still can't see out of his right eye. You can't just have a guy go back into a fight when he can't see. It's crazy. It's crazy to ask. The guy's eyes been injured. If it gets hit again, it could rupture. Who knows? Who knows what kind of damage you have back there? So who do you think was irresponsible for that? Serra gone. I mean, but in terms of handling the situation afterwards, You think it was Tom's fault or the UFC for not being like getting his back on it? If I was doing a press conference afterwards, what I would emphasize first and foremost is how dangerous eyepokes are.

But I think we've neglected some simple solutions, you know, and I think there's got to be a solution that we use to stop these fucking fingers from going into people's eyes. Point deduction right away. Point deduction is the easiest. Yeah. One eye, you touch someone's eyeball with your fingers. Unless it's a complete scramble, you're doing this, his head happens to be there. Yeah. But if you're doing this when a guy's coming in and your fingers go in his eyes, one point.

Every fucking time. Every fucking time. For sure. No, no judge's discretion. Yeah. No, you know, no referee's discretion. Poking the eye. Ow!

One point. Did you ever ask Dana about the pride gloves? What happened to him? I did. You know, I don't. Because they should own that. I don't remember that tech, right? That's good.

The best stuff is Trevor Whitman's. Right. Just pay the man a little bit of money and do it. I was trying to broker something and I might still be able to do that to try to figure out a way to just like... Those gloves are perfect. The knuckles curve over. Your hands are in this position. It does not impede your grappling.

It's easy to do that if you want to, but the natural position is like this. So if you're doing this, it's because you wanted to do that. It's not like the gloves are forcing your hand open, like a lot of people complain about now. They can't get some mad scientist doing this? Here's the mad scientist. Cover the tips of the fingers. You don't use them anyway. True.

Nobody does this, right? So you're always grappling like this, right? Yeah, little mittens. Like a leather, with a leather top. I want to wear a mitton. So your thumbs are free. So you still have some potential eyepokes from thumbs. But that mitigates a lot of it.

That mitigates a lot of it. And you completely stop all this stuff. Because now you have a solid thing. Yeah. It's not going to go knuckle deep in one finger. goes in one finger's on your eyebrows and it's just fucking digging in that's crazy

that would all stop if you had a mittin well I mean there's not a lot of eye pokes in bare knuckle right right that is interesting and it's because they're always like this yeah because they're no it's true it's these guys they get in there and they're just like yeah

so the way to stop it really I mean it's take up waypoints and guys will be like this more yeah I wonder if there would be less eye pokes in just if you just about MMA with gloves on, if it was just boxing and no kicking and takedowns. Maybe it's like all the different possibilities of things that are happening. It's like they're trying to like avoid to take down and like...

Everything. And blocking kicks. Yeah, everything. So that's why you're doing this. Because like Muay guys do this all the time. Boxing guys very rarely do that. No. Very rarely.

Yeah. Unless they're showing off and they're about to hit you with a big right hand. Bang! Like Deonté Wilder. Right. Yeah, he'll be... Yeah. Old school.

Deontai Wilde Wilde. Why I would literally like hold his fist in front of your face and then wing one. Wing a nuclear bomb at your head. I think you just got to discourage guys to close your hands. Cover the fingers. Does he fight with Joshua? Covered. Covered.

I don't know. I don't know. I thought I heard something about that. That's a tough fight. He's too skinny for that. At this point, he looked good in the Chesora fight in moments. There was moments. He said, I love you, and then Chesora said, I love you too.

Oh. And then he hit him. Knocked him out of the ring. Jesus. Deonti said he backed off on him because he saw he was hurt and he wanted him to go home to his family. I love you too and he fucking knocked on the ropes. Deonti did ayahuasca and I think a lot of times when a straight up assassin like Deontay Wilder meets God. Oh, man.

You probably takes a lot of that mean out of your heart. Oh. You need a little of that mean to land those haymakers. You got to be angry. It's true. Yeah, you don't want to be half a hippie when you're going in and a shit. You want to talk about one-punch power though. That guy might be.

be the greatest of all time. Deante? He was like... 48 knockouts in 49 fights? He was fucking people up. And he was not a great technical boxer.

He started late in life. That right hand just was fucked Thor's hammer was dropping on people's heads. Teddy Alice always calls it the eraser. Any mistakes you make, that right hand erases them all. I always wanted to see him fight in Gano. That would have been wild.

That should have been a fight. That would have been the fight to make. Him and Ingano would have been the fight to make. Them two bombing at each other. They could actually still do that. Yeah, why not? They could still do that. Like, Ingano, if you want to look at it from a business standpoint, man, that guy's killed it, right?

Yeah. Went over, got that crazy contract with the PFL. He got a chance to fight Tyson Fury. Knocks him down, becomes a legend. Then gets a big money fight with Anthony Joshua. That doesn't go so good. And then he has his reintroduction to MMA. He fights that dude, Hennon.

Right, the six-eighthwin. He takes him down, smashes him, beats him down. So he made, what, $20 million in that fight? Something crazy like that? He had a crazy contract, right? Yeah. And he had a contract where his opponent had to make at least $2 million. Who does that?

Yeah. How do you not love the guy? I know. How do you not love that? Right. He puts it into his opponent must make at least $2 million. Yeah. I don't know, man.

And now he's got to be making a lot for this Netflix thing. Netflix thing they got to pay him because they need legit names. Yeah. And, you know, Felipe Lins, he fought at light heavyweight in UFC, right? Yeah. Yeah. I worked with him a bit at Top Team, and I mean, I just, this is a big moment for him. It's all I can say.

Like, I don't know how he's going to do. It's a big moment for him. Yeah. I'm happy Nate is making that money. Mike Perry, too. I'm happy for them. Yeah, I heard those guys are getting paid. It's nice because this is a thing where if a fighter is in contract negotiations,

they have their last fight on the contract, and they decide not. to sign until after the fight. They do make that decision, which legally they can do, right? Yeah. And on a sudden, Netflix is calling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially if you win big, if you win big, some stunning knockout. For sure.

And then, you know, you come over to Netflix and make, what, 12 a fight? That's nuts. And that forces everybody. It forces everybody's hand. That's what business is supposed to do. That's how it's supposed to operate. That's good for the fighters. That's the most important thing.

And that's good, right? But that's just like, that's why I'm hoping that this Netflix thing can be sustainable. I hope so too. Yeah, because if they're just doing one-off, it's like, again, I'm a terrible business man. Yeah. I'm terrible at it. Yeah, me too. But just give the money to the fighters.

They're the ones who fight. Without that, you got nothing. Everybody's making plenty of money. Yeah. Come on. It's going to be big, though, for sure, this thing. Everybody's going to watch it, I think. 100%.

It'll be huge because everybody has net. They're going to watch it. It's going to be crazy. Rhonda could become a superstar again. Well, she's already a superstar. But, I mean, if she wins again, then people start talking about, like, maybe Rhonda's going to come back to the UFC. And then maybe Ron is, like, a W-W-E moment. Rhonda and Dana shake hands on a stage with, like, Erica Kirk fireworks going off behind them.

And Drusky dance. Rhonda, Kayla Harrison, White House Lawn number two next summer. Oh. I don't think she would do well in the UFC But this is great for her She's done with the WWE and all that stuff Yeah I bet it's probably hard for a

I mean she probably enjoyed the job It was a great job Made her a lot of money But it's probably hard for an elite competitor To do these stage things She's an elite competitor Because like instinctively she just wants to do Compete

100% She doesn't want a fake compete I mean some guys did it right Kurt Engel turned out to be a real good pro wrestler, you know, despite being a gold medalist. It's a great gig. Don't get me wrong. But I'm saying for someone who still could fight.

Oh, you got you. Yeah, angle was done at that point when he went to pro wrestling. I went to that. I won the Olympics with a broken neck. Jesus. Savage. I just went to the headquarters in Connecticut. It's pretty well.

Oh, nice. Yeah. I saw you did something with that. She's very nice, Stephanie McMahon. Nice. And I seen that whole fucking place. If you're into WWE, it's like a fucking nerdgazzing. I'm not really into it.

Bro, Tony Hinchp. But if you were? But if you were? Oh, my God. He's already been there, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. He's working with them now. Is he?

Yeah, yeah. He's doing stuff with the WWE. Is he writing for him? He's going to be in some shows. He's going to be a bad guy doing some things. Oh, my goodness. He should be like a manager. He's so happy.

He's so happy. That's great. I don't know how much I could talk about this. I have to be quiet. I don't know how much this is public. but they're doing a, they've already announced and they're doing some stuff with Kill Tony and he's gonna roast like WWE people

they're gonna do some stuff like that they're doing a lot of collaborations together it's perfect that guy's a giant wrestling fan and he loves it yeah the guys that love it love it he fucking and he's the best roaster too man when I be saying if it to fights I don't say shit I'm like yo I don't want him gumming at me he had Dana's back

that's my boy yeah he had Dana's back for the fucking time we had to do that that thing at the laugh factor oh yeah yeah Dana's like yeah we're gonna do this thing and nobody's coming in prepared me well he had Tony Hinkcliffe yeah he wrote his same old said like two months prior that's hilarious yeah

Tony's the best of that shit he's the best of cracking people cracking on people and cut people down but the people that love that soap opera like world of the WWE it's I don't hate on it I know what they love it it keeps you entertained man they like

it, you know what I mean? They're really smart at mixing things up and bringing in new characters and having new crazy moments. And if you're a nerd like Tony, like, yeah, it's like, I think they go nuts. It's like you're, it's like the same escape. It's like a male soap opera. Yeah, but it's like the same kind of escape that you get if you're watching Game with Thrones.

It's just an escape. It's silly. This is crazy. Oh my God, he's back from the dead. See, I, but that's what I draw the line. I just, I can't do that. I draw the line there. I can't do that.

And I ain't got no problem with it. I just can't do it. I'm in the same camp as you. It's not my thing. I don't watch it, but I respect it. I respect how hard it is to do. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

It's fucking incredible to do. Remember, Matt, we wrestled it in Memphis. Yeah, we did a little thing in the street. But we were just winging it. Yeah. I was hoping you just let me get a submission. You go, you fight me off. Come on, man.

I mean, it's strapped. I hurt my knee. It was tough, man. I didn't want. I was like, damn, this is harder than I. Oh, those guys take a beating, for sure. You can learn how to fall, but you're still falling. I met Hulk Hogan twice.

Well, I met him before when he did a promo with me with the UFC. It was when we were on, I think we were on Spike back then. But I met him a long time ago, and he was like, he was six foot five. He was this giant fucking dude. I was like, holy shit, it's Hulk Hogan. And then I saw him the last time he did my podcast, and he's like four inches shorter. And it's all from getting all of his spine fused. Damn.

I'm not to say you're the same height now. I'm like, wait a minute. What about what happened here? He was like a big guy still, but he used to be a giant. It was like this towering fucking crazy guy, bald head. Thunderlips. He was so fun. That dude was so fun.

But that's how many back surgeries he had. And he said it was all from that move that he had. We dropped down. Oh, no kidding. And then the big seat drop. Exactly. So the seat drop, every time he does that, he's compressing his discs. 300 plus.

Yeah. 300 fucking pounds. Every night. dropping down every night and just blowing his back out. His back was just destroyed. Wow. Destroyed. Every vertebrae destroyed.

Every disc blown apart. Herniations all throughout. It barely could walk. I was watching the Princess Bride the other day with fucking Andrean. Anybody want a peanut? Yeah, he's fucking great. My name is Diego Montoya. Love that.

You're kidding my father. I better die. Such a great movie. This is a great movie. Great movie. Yeah, I put that on for the family, have the kids watch it. It's a classic. It's great.

Yeah, that's one, last ages. It goes through generations. Look at that, fucking. Yeah, yeah, it holds up. Fucking love it. You know? They don't make them like that anymore. I just saw that Project Hail Mary.

That's a nice one for the family. What is that? It's what Ryan Goslin goes to space and fucking has to save the world type of thing. But, you know, it's more than that, but that's pretty much it. the premise. Where are these Artemis people at now? Are they passing the moon yet? They passed it? What happened? So they, when did they, did they land yet? Are they back yet?

Where are they? It should be probably back in the next day or two. Well, who's going where? They went around the moon. They went all the way around the moon? All the way around the moon? They didn't land? No, no. They just went around and saw the dark side in the moon. Yeah, they took photos of the dark side. Oh, really? Yeah. They did crash on Friday. Splash on Friday. I was getting ready to say, What? They crashed. So they land tomorrow.

Wow. So the dark side of the moon is only dark when the moon's not. It's not dark. Like the sun still hits it the same amount the sun hits the light side of the moon. Is that true? Yes. I used to think, I'm a retard. I used to think that the reason why we only see one side of the moon is because the moon doesn't spin.

That's what I thought. No, no. The moon not only spins around us, but it rotates. but when we see it, the only time we see the moon during a full moon or a quarter moon or whatever it is is when the sun is hitting the side that's always facing us.

Right. So when it goes the other way, there's a different side that's facing us but we don't ever get to see it because it's dark. Right. That's what it is. So they took pictures of the other side. Exactly.

Yeah. And there's aliens everywhere. I was about to say, yeah, what's on the other side? Yeah, yeah. This pyramid. Civilization on the other side? What's on the other side? And in that movie, he finds an alien, by the way.

Oh, he does? It's not really a spoiler. It's in the trailers. I had that guy Bob Lazar on again recently. Who's that? You want to see a great documentary? It's fun. First, I would say, Jeremy Corbell's documentary, which is Area 51, Bob Lazar and Flying Saucers.

Is that what it's called? Bob Lazar, Area 51, and Flying Saucers. So this guy was a back engine. He was an engineer, and he was hired to work on these spacecrafts. He didn't know what the fuck they were. And they told him, like, try to figure out this propulsion system. They brought him into this hangar. And this is in, like, 1988.

And it's a flying saucer that looks exactly like that thing on the desk. Jesus. And it has an American flag sticker on it. And so he was like, oh, it must be ours. And then he gets in it. And it's like, what the fuck is this? It's made for people that are three feet tall. There's no controls, no buttons, nothing.

Why are you looking at me, motherfucker? Why? Jerry only got to confess that. Why are you? Three feet tall. You look right at me. son of a bitch but he's got a new one out called S4

I recommend it to anybody they did like CGI and they Daged him on Netflix or YouTube No it's on Amazon Some other places What's it called again S4 S4?

I just saw I was just watching a series What you on that Ancient Apocalypse Was I not? Yeah you was in that Oh with Graham Hancock Yeah that's right

That's right yeah Graham was my man Do you know Rodrigo Gracie Yeah Good buddy of mine, my old roommate, he's a fucking wacky guy. He's fucking funny.

Funny as shit. So, you know, we were just out to eat last night with Dan O'Hur. We were talking about him. God, I love that guy. And he's like, oh, he's great. And he's, oh, I'm glad that Haredigo's matured. I was talking about how to, he's doing good. He just visited me. He did my podcast, and he did a seminar at my place. So, you know, I was catching up with him. So he told me he was

visiting Area 51 with his wife. and he goes so yeah you know I always wanted to go there so me and fernanda we drove down there and no nothing was happening so then I'm driving back you got to drive back hours through like the dark desert right so he's driving back and he goes Fernando fell asleep so I had my laser pointer so I'm just pointing at a sign pointing at this he goes mad and then I saw blue lights in the distance he goes oh I could I want to make contact he goes what oh he goes she was sleeping So I started taking my laser pen and pointing at it.

He goes, and I didn't think nothing of it. And then all of a sudden I'm driving. And I hear a yellow circle around my car. And I wake up Fernandez. She's like, what did you do? And he's like, I just took my laser pen. It was a helicopter fucking following him. And he goes, he goes, he was getting down to like almost my roof.

I didn't know what to do. They had a yellow spot around my fucking car. So she told me, we called the police. So they go, look, there's a helicopter following us. And they go, are you in A? They said the car, everything. They go, the authorities are waiting for you at the rest stop, up or whatever.

So he goes to the rest stop, takes his laser pointer. He gets, they throws it in the garbage. I don't know why. And then he comes out, they're like, look, they put him in cuffs. And he goes to his wife. He goes, go in there, get the laser pen. It's in the bathroom.

She goes in the men's room through the garbage, finds it. So they're saying, all right, you were, you were shooting, interfering with a military helicopter or whatever it is. Like, in other words, it's a major crime here that he could be facing. He goes, mad. He goes, I was shitting myself. The two pilots come over. One of them takes off the helmet. Calliflower is.

He goes, fucking thank. He trained under my cousin. He goes, the guy's bowing to me. He goes, my wife's yelling at me. So he got out of it. The guy trained under there. He's a brown belt. Oh, my God.

How lucky. That's so lucky. I go fucking Artigo, man. Only you, bro. Yeah, they probably thought they were trying to, like, fuck with planes. Because kids do that. They shine laser beams at planes. It's like a real problem.

Is it? It was getting their eyes while they're fucking flying the planes. The lasers go all the way up to a plane. I used to be with Artigo on 27. street. He's like, Pat, watch this. We'd be at the window. The guy's walking down the street. Fucking, he's like, ah, look at him.

Jump on the fuck cover. He's going to hell. That's what you doing. That's fucking whites and that's still getting them in trouble. That's so ridiculous. A lot of people would think it's a laser sight on a rifle. Exactly.

That's what the fuck he's doing. Take that down. Don't do that. Don't do that around here. He thought he was making contact. He's making contact. He's got a chopper. Yeah, they keep talking about making contact I'm tired of hearing about it Let's do it already

God damn it yeah I want to see it Yeah It's just dick teasing us Nah shit I don't think But you're a sci-fi guy Oh man Have you watched the Dune movies or no?

No I know I was just You don't want to give it a shot I do I don't have any time They were good When I get home too Like if it's like late at night

When I'm home And I'm by myself watching shit I don't want to watch anything like that I want to watch documentaries I was about the same say, man, take a week off of a documentary on the fucking Pyramids. Dude, we're not going to find out what I have

with the pyramids next week. The Dune movies are so fucking good. I heard they're amazing. Josh Rowan is great, and now they got the Dune Messiah coming out. Yeah, they got a third one coming out. Yep, third one coming out. And this guy can't miss. Everybody keeps telling me how awesome they are. They are good. They're very good. I tried to watch. It was kind of slow.

Yeah, you know what? You get that. Just so. Yeah, it's kind of slow. Senting opinions. I don't know. Hey, you know what else? Who else is coming out with a movie? Who?

Ah. Come on. Just like we planned. You told me, bring that shit up. No, no, he came out with a... They paid him. Flowers. Yeah.

I did a show from, so. That's why Dean picked up dinner last night. Yeah, no. No, I did that because of my new job. A harrow amount. I tell you right now, he wants to give me a heart attack when you reach for that fucking bill. Is this a movie that you put together? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's what it's produced? Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's about a female in an abusive relationship. Wow. Look at you, Mr. Sensitive. There it is. There it is.

Oh, boy. No shit. The multi-talented. Yeah. You know, nothing to do with cage fighting. Look at that. Dean Thomas. That's incredible, dude.

Congratulations. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm going to start shopping at the film festivals. Yeah, next week. That's awesome, dude. That's awesome. Yeah. I like when people spread their wings.

You got to. You're like, you know, life is short. You don't want to be in a box. You know, you want to be able to do all kind of different things. And you can do whatever the fuck you want. You can do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah. So I try to do whatever the fuck I want.

I'm telling you, that's how to live. Yeah. That's how to live. There's too many people out there not doing what they want to do. That's a hell. It makes me sad, actually. It's a sad existence. You know, and a lot of people are doing it because, like, you got to take care of your family

and I get it and I respect it, maybe you have a good time at work, that's great. But if there's a thing you want to do while you're still breathing. I know, do it. You should do it. You should try. You least try it.

Get it out of your head. I feel so fortunate when I fucking have my day-to-day. You know what I mean? Because I'm not like, you know, pro-mate, no bleach. And my podcast I'm having fun with And UFC Unfiltered Dude, it's just such a perfect little thing for me I don't want to do anything else

Beautiful It's so much fun That's the there's a lot of power in saying no Oh You know Saying no to things I don't want to do anything more Like just

Enjoy what you're doing Yeah You don't have to keep piling on But the thing is once things start going good You start saying Oh I better not say no to nothing No Yeah yeah yeah

I should do that I'll find the time but once you get to the point where you can say no that's a great place to be oh it's the best place is your heart in it or not do you want to do that

exactly shoot man the day to day your day to day life that's what I love about Longo Longo's you know it's funny he's holding for my daughter now which is so great she had her first kickboxing

imagine one I told you but like he sent us the pictures in the group chat yeah yeah it's amazing right but it's a proud moment

oh so proud and it's just so cool man when I see him holding for like that's awesome Like, you know, he just, that guy just doing it. He's the same thing. You and him, if Paramount was smart, they would do a fucking, a whole series of you and him,

traveling to fights, working with people, hanging out, and cornering each other. You guys in the corner are some, it's fucking, I'm like, keep the camera on Sarah. Ain't that the truth? It's the truth. We always talk about it in the commentary. Like, it's fucking awesome watching you guys in a corner. Good technical advice, but it's just fun. You guys are fun together.

Just on an amateur card, we just got brought back together for one of my fighters, Adrian, this little young Filipino guy. He's a nurse. Always smiling. They're all nurses, brother. He went in. My wife's a nurse, too, Filipino. But he went in there, and he's just like,

I just have just my one wish is to have you and Ray in my corner. He's such a nice kid. So we went in there, we cornered him. We didn't have to work the corner of the first round. He flatlined this guy. Nice. Oh, man. So, yeah, man.

You guys are great on your podcast. These are great on your podcast together, too. Yeah, that's what I mean. You got a crazy friendship. It's perfect. It's like the banters, hilarious. The two of you guys, you compliment each other perfectly.

It would be a great show. I'm telling you. They've been to do something soon before the first episode is me and the guy's taking Longo to a home. He's not getting any younger. Hey, guys, field trip, Longo. Where are we going?

Don't let him talk to you like that, Ray. I'm in your corner, Ray. We're fucking road trip to the fucking home, Longo. No, no. Lago's got a lot of life Oh my God What do you think of Gilbert Burns versus Mike Malat

Is Gilberns lost four in a row But he did it to all killers You know what I mean? A lot's a tough guy Malad just getting better Only lost once to Neil Magny In a fight that he was doing great in But then he got Neil Magnet

Because that guy's fucking Never gets tired Never gets tired Ultimate discipline always in shape He rideed the ship since then And that kid's like the next captain Canada. He's doing people. They make an unfair comparison like,

oh, you're the next George, that type of thing. But he's his own fighter. He's got a great skill set, good head on his shoulders. Family of studs, his brother's like an ice hockey. It's a good test for him, Gilbert, at this stage of his career, you know? Yeah. See if he still got it. Yeah.

You know, he's the first guy to make comes out look human. But when Morales did that to Gilbert, I was like, Jesus Christ. Morales is terrifying. He looks so big. It doesn't make any sense. I know, yeah, I know. He doesn't make any sense. So when I was with Brady, when Brady got beat by him, and the way it, the way, and he looked okay, right?

Like, you know, a guy, oh, he's 170 pounds. And the next day, he steps into the cage, and we're just looking like, oh, my God. He was huge. Massive. Massive. Yeah. And when you're that much taller and you're the better striker, God, that's a good advantage. Yeah, it's a huge advantage.

Like, you just, because you can stand six feet away from a guy and just be like, whew, woo, gull, Bulgari last week. Oh, my. Oh, man. You're talking about it. Like, I know Man Soar. He trained it with ground control as a kid. And before he went off to college and all.

And I mean, the only thing I can say, first off, obviously, he was not ready for him yet. But he definitely showed a lot of heart because he fucking stayed in there and took it. Almost too much heart. Yeah. I was just thinking the exact same thing. I hope he comes back. I mean, that was a bad beating.

Personally knowing him, I felt horrible watching that. I was like, he wasn't ready for that yet. Yeah. When you get an elite striker, you've got to realize that guy beat Pereira in glory. Yeah. Pereira knocked him out twice after that. But in the first fight, he beat Pereira. I think people thought he looked like ordinary in his first couple.

Like, he came out with a new version, and it was fucking impressive. He's fucking good, and he's training with Pereira now. And Glover's camp. Yeah. That's a great fucking camp. And Glover has so much knowledge. Yeah. He's, that guy was in the dark for six years.

where he couldn't get into America. And during those six years, he was the boogeyman. Everybody talked about Glover. They're like, there's a guy that's in Brazil. He can't get to America. But if that guy gets here, he's fucking everybody up. And that was Glover. Glover was a, he was always training with truck.

Truck and in Hathlman. Yeah, yeah, in SLO. And they're in Danbury, Connecticut. That's so, and that's. And that's, they're not on the beach. They're not in Vegas. They're not out there. They ain't shit to do out there.

Yeah, all they doing is training. Yeah, dude. Just nothing but Lyme disease. in the woods. Right? And federal prison in Danbury. Yeah. Yeah, Connecticut is a good place to just not get distracted.

Just get to work. Danbury is where Rodrigo Gracie broke my elbow. I was there. Yeah, you was there? I was there. Niagara? You know I was there. Niagara, yeah.

Damn. Did you have to get pins in it? No, they, I mean, they reset it, cast it. No pins. He told that story at the seminar. Oh, he did? Yeah. I had to bring that up.

Man, I was like 25 years ago. He said it because we weren't close at the time. Oh. And I was yelling shit, but I regret that too. I don't want to win. When did you yell? Break it. Break it.

Because he let it go. He let it go. And you didn't tap. Well, yeah. And right, which was great. And then I was yelling at him for letting it go, which I was just psychotic. Because you're my friend now. Yeah.

At the time, it was just. Well, to be fair, like, if I knew it was going to break, I would have tapped. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know it was going to break. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

That's what the story he told. Then he said that Hensel yelled at him too after that. For letting it go. Why'd you? What are you getting soft? Why you let that shit go? I got to get Henzo in here. Oh, man.

He's the best. He's definitely. We were going to do it at one time, but he was only in Austin for a short amount of time, and I didn't have anything open. I couldn't get him in. I'd love to sit down with that guy. What a legend. Yeah.

Stories for days. And he's one of those guys, like, you hear about a guy getting a black belt, and you go, okay. And you go, he'll get a black belt from him. You're like, oh. Okay. Definitely. It's like Henzo Hickson, Jean-Jacqueso.

There's a few of those guys that are like, okay, that's a real black belt. Like, I mean, Henzel's New York place is like one of the most legendary places in the history of Jiu-Jitsu. If you had to write a history of Jiu-Jitsu, the Hensow Academy in New York City, holy shit, man. 100%. When he came over, he came over in 96. We had like an in-school tournament. You know what I mean? It was great because Craig Cucock already had two schools for.

He had a Jersey school and... Where's that guy? No clue, man. No one knows what he is? That was my first... My first instructor. But he was not an easy guy to... He'd never let you get too close.

I bought all the tapes. I learned... I learned... I learned a Mountescape from those tapes. It worked one day. I was like, oh shit, it worked. He was a very good teacher. I was one over two years.

Before Henzel came over. It was an early Brazilian Jusatu Blackbell. He was a Blackbell, like early 90s, right? Like the Steve Maxwell era. He was one of the earliest ones. I found out about him through the Gracie newsletter that I was applied to at like 17. I used to get that because I would buy the tapes. You get a newsletter.

And one newsletter, it was like every few months. It was announcing the first American Black Belt. And then like two newsletters later, they disowned them. They had a business. But then I found out through Black Belt magazine that he was teaching in the village one day a week in the city. I go, all right, they might have disowned them, but they couldn't take away his skill set. There was no place to learn on the East Coast, except for. Maxwell and Philly.

Yep. So that's how I found Kukuk, and then he parted it up with Hensow. And then I went with Hensel when they broke up, obviously. Why did they break up? I remember Hensel took me out to eat one time, and he's like, look. And I always got along with Hensel so much better right off the bat. Like, Hensel was just so warm and great. And he'd invite me over his house, and he was just such a, and Craig was always kind of a wall.

He was a big German guy, just, hmm. But I remember. One time he told me, like, look, something with the business where he wasn't felt like he was being treated fairly. I'll just leave it like that. And then he goes, look, he goes, no one likes Craig. He goes, if you go with him and me, he goes, people will go with him because of you because they like you. But I want you to come with me. I go, look.

I go, and at first I'm like, is any, you know, I was a young kid. I didn't know. I go, it was any way you guys could make up. He goes, man, if it was Brazil, he'd be already dead. I go, all right. Okay, Enzo. All right, I get you. So much for that.

So I went with Henzzo and Craig kind of left him. So, Matt, where are you in the pecking order in terms of American black belts from Hensel? I'm the first American under Hensel. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's something that could, that's my biggest achievement right there. You know, he took me under his wing, Hensel.

Again, I was a purple belt. He got me out of a security guard booth, taking me to Japan to corner. to corner him versus rings because he wanted to hit me to see what it's like backstage dude I didn't do anything yet I'm like oh shit really Japan so he would just do stuff like that yeah he put a lot into me so

I can't thank him enough dude that's that fucking camp you just think about how many elite blackbelts Hensow produced and then think of the John Donner branch of it yeah I know yeah right generationally like it just it dominates all the generations of

Jiu-Jitsu. Especially now if you think of what Donahur's done. Yeah. Oh my God. I mean, his prize guy, Gordon Ryan, greatest of all time. For sure. But I mean, even on the other side, who they don't get along with so much now, like Nicky Rodder and them are still from Donaheher. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And all elite of the elite. Yeah. It's a crazy lineage. That's a guy that just put 100% of himself into it and he's got a genius mind. I remember he didn't even own a television until my buddy Chad LeBron who was moving back to Virginia, gave him something. He gave him one so he could watch. It had, I think, a VHS and a DVD thing where he wanted to just study wrestling tapes and

Japanese tapes. He just used it just a study. I have a question for you. Whatever happened to Eddie Wolverine? Yeah, so I asked him about that last night. What's his last name again? Cummins. Cummins.

What did he say? He got into some kind of business now. He's not really training as much. God, that guy was good. Yeah, he was good. It was leg locks, man. Early in the day. Like, as the leglock revolution was unfolding,

Yeah, that was John's first, you know, savage he put out. I remember. And, you know, just super, super technical, you know. Yeah, little guy, too. And trained a lot of those guys in leglock technique, too. You know, they all shared techniques. Oh, yeah. I think it's just amazing that John drives.

He never drove in New York. So I got here. He goes, oh, I drove. I go, you fucking. With a rash guard on and a fanny bag and Adidas sweatpants. He was dressed up last night. He had an all black's polo shirt on. I go, yeah.

from New Zealand. Yeah. Yeah. And New Zealand. Matt asked him. He goes, what, what? No rash guard? And he goes, oh, I got dressed up for you.

And he goes, oh, I got dressed up for you. Right. Stop wearing the rash card everywhere. Right. It is crazy. That's Hollywood wear. He's teaching at King's Way now, Gordon's School. Now that Gordon's done competing, he's got that school going on.

He's like a character in a movie. Like, he's not supposed to exist. That her? Yeah. He's a philosophy major at Columbia. who falls in love with Jiu-Jitsu because he's a bouncer. Who bounce that scores? Yeah, right?

He's just like jacked, like powerlifter bouncer who played rugby. He was like 220, he was yoked up. Jacked. And so then he learns Jiu-Sy because obsessed with Jiu-Jitsu. But his body's all fucked up from rugby. He's got a fucked up knee, then his hip gets fucked up. So he can't really compete, but he is such a jiu-jitsu fanatic that he trains the best guys of all time.

It's kind of nuts. It is nuts. And that's all he cares about. Like, he doesn't give a shit about anything. He doesn't give a fuck about social media. Look at John Beckley. That's one of my favorite pictures. Oh, my God.

Full head of hair, jacked, looking ready for a gay date. John Deftly. I was like he's wearing a skirt on. Yeah, it does. He was a really jacked trance. John definitely would rock a headgear, too, when he wrestling for sure. He was a bad motherfucker, dude. Bad motherfucker.

I know a lot of people who rolled with him that were shocked. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, John would do privates and wrestle everybody all day long. Yeah, he lived it. He still lives it. It's all he does. And it's just so, you know, fortunate that you get a guy who's that smart, like, in everything.

Like, he's really well-read history, all kinds of, like, he's a very interesting guy to talk to. But it becomes obsessed only with jujitsu. He didn't have a family. Yeah. He doesn't have. He's a wife and kids got to take care of. I love that. Choking people.

When you have this out here, it's like a routine now. Now, every time we come out, I get to. dinner with him. I don't see him too often. Right. It's great. It's like a little reunion each time we come to town. I'd be with him how many days a week. We'd just train and go to Baritoville. They were in Puerto Rico during the pandemic and they were

having a hard time there and I was like, come to Texas, baby. Come on down. I'll tell you. You're the Pied Piper. They all ended up here. Well, it's a fun place, man. It really is. Well, I heard the whole Puerto Rico thing was good for a while though. I was talking to Nicky Ratt about that. He said it was great. He was like just

like being in Puerto Rico with your friends and like a frat house training in jihitsu all day it was like amazing well especially because they were shut down yeah and in Puerto Rico you have outside like you can get light into the room so it kills the fucking staff better yeah right how many guys got staff from that

the basement jiu jihitsu right right right a lot of people got staff there's a lot of funk that gets on those mats that if you're not careful fucked up his belly with all the antibiotics yeah that's from staff Dude, my fucking belly, Joe, on the way here, on the way to the JFK, I told me. Because I always got my issues, but I usually give myself, like, if I'm going somewhere, like, on a car trip or anywhere, like, I clear out for at least an hour and a half to two hours.

Like, I'll give myself, I'll have my espresso in the morning, two Celsius, and then I just let it go to work and I'm pushing on my belly. Because things get stuck in there. So I thought I gave myself enough time, and I was going to JFK from my house, 30 minutes. It was 9 in the morning. 10 minutes into that fucking car trip I go I'm not fucking making it I go I'm not I go I'm not man The guy was my driver was such a good guy

What a nice guy I gave him a fifth I give him a fucking tip good tip So we're driving I go I go lie Let me just keep watching videos on my phone I'm like let me just try to let my mind go somewhere The clock wasn't moving I look back I go that's another minute I go I'm not I just no way I'm making this

So I'm on the bell parkway It's not like you could just pull over So I go you know I go, buddy, I go, I go, I go, I'm sorry, man. I go, I'm not going to make it. I go, we got to, we got to pull over. He goes, oh, he goes, oh, the, the, there's no way really to pull over. You want me to take an egg?

I go, go, go, go off an egg. I go, you can I have to do something? I go, I'm not making it. I go, can I get your, I go, can I have your 7-Eleven cup? I go, he goes, oh, do you have to pee? I go, no, I'm going to shit in your cup. I go, no, I go, I'm sorry. I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I know it was, it's just, it's going to happen.

And it's my biggest fucking fear. And it's coming to life. So this guy, no, it's okay, no, he got over. We almost hit a fucking car. I'm on the side. There's not even bushes or anything. There was some, like, some like, brush. Nobody could see you behind the car.

Everybody saw me. You know, this guy. You said a top of your head. I got out as I'm taking my pants down, fucking. And I'm going, thank goodness, I made it. And fuck, I get back in, I go, buddy. You shit in the cup? No, I didn't, I did shit.

I just piss. Oh. But it's like, well, I mean, I felt my asshole purples, but nothing. You know, when you feel like, you know. But does it, it's like that with you, when you have to pee too? Sometimes I have to do both. Like, I'm like, I have to pee, but I know to really get it all out, I have to push it. Hey, everybody.

How's my ass? So, but it's. With P, though, like, you can't just hold P? Man, I can, but not to this. Not like how you used to be able to? Well, it's not like, it's one of those things where I have to clear out in the morning and I thought I totally cleared out. But sometimes I'm like, I'm good.

I pushed out totally. And then it kind of just gets something else in the chamber or something. I'm like, oh, no, no. There's still something left. So we're driving. And I'm like, when I get the feeling, it's such a horrible feeling. because it's not about willpower. It's not about thinking of something.

I'm like, dude, it's going to fucking happen. This is the day that I just piss myself. It's going to, but thank, dude, I gave a custom tag. I gave him $70 for the trip. I gave him a $50 tip. I go, dude, thank you, bro. You're a fucking hero. This guy fucking saved my fucking ass.

Because someone else, I'm like, they'd be like, hey, dude, fuck off with it. Or don't do this in my car. Right. Dude, I'm like, it's happening. And I go, give me a cup. He's like, oh, do you have to pee? I go, obviously.

But, dude, he made it. But I couldn't do it. Dude, I fucking, a 30-minute drive there, I couldn't fucking make it. That's crazy. It's scary. But as you get older, it's hard to hold it, man. But now, I think it's my ulcerative colitis has to do with that.

It has to have something to do with that. But, because that sounds crazy. Dude, I, I, I've had it before. But, like, I don't know if I told it. I maybe said it the last time here, We were going to an aquarium out east with my family. And it was one of those things, just like this. And I get out of the car, and then we're looking, and I'm like, I can,

and then I see there's like a line out to do. I go, I'm not making this. There's no way I'm making this. So I go, honey, she goes, okay, go, go. So I fucking, there's like a post office with those, those bushes that come straight up, like they're all tight together. I fucking smush myself through. The second I take my dick out, fucking bees coming around my fucking head.

I go, dude, I'm going to get stung because I'm not. going out with my dick. And fucking, I didn't get stung, but I definitely had some on the front of my pants. What are you going to do? I'm a very clean person. Thank God you're not a woman.

Imagine being a woman in that situation. Oh, man. Right? There's no hiding it. Oh, hard on. Yeah, man. These are the things you've got to deal with when you get older a little bit. I am getting my stem cells that's hopefully going to help me.

What is the cause of alternative collitis? What do they say causes it? I don't know. I mean, I think some of it's, my history, I know one of my brothers had Crohn's, which is even worse, Crohn's disease. To level up. Yeah, man.

So I know my grandfather, when he was getting older, though, he had some shit. Have you ever, like, swore off pasta? Well. Just, like, taking, like, months off? I wouldn't, like, try to go carnivore. I did go gluten-free for a while, you know. But, you know, even espresso, I go, come on, man.

I got to live. I know. I'm with you. Every time I go to New York, I have to eat Italian food. Like, I'm looking forward to made the Jersey shows so I can get some fucking New Jersey Italian food. I gotta take you to Talios, bro. You love this pizza, bro.

Let's go. You loved it. Oh, yeah, I'm trying to come up next week? I'm sure. I love it. I'm sure. I love pizza. No, no, just their fucking, no bleach, no probate.

Don't get me stuff with this. But it's so, I could eat it. I can eat three slices on the way to my school, and I'm not fucked up. I could train and it's fucking, if I did that with a fucking regular slice of pizza, Dude, I want to take a nap, you know? So even my wife now orders the zero-zero flower.

From Italy. Yeah, we get that shit. She bates the bread. She makes the pizza. She makes fresh bread. I feel like out of Game of Thrones. I'm dipping in my soup. The Vegas place I took you to.

Guytonos. All Italian flour. All handmade pasta. Yeah, tonight we want to go to a place. Hey, let's go. I want to fucking do that thing. Get to my fucking hotel and shit myself. If you did that, if it would have an effect.

You know who cured his fucking ulcerative colitis is George St. Pierre? How did he do it? He said it's one of the reasons why he was stopping fighting. Fasting. Really? Yeah. He was fasting did that? Yeah, but that's not that hard.

Yeah, I mean, you just stay busy enough. You're busy, definitely. Yeah, you just eat a big dinner. Want a cherry cola? What is that? Cherry cola. Ooh. Dude, you know you got...

Yeah, you got him all... It all started from here. Sorry. It all started from here. But it is tasty. Ooh, that's delicious. Yeah. Oh, that's good.

I love it. They're illegal in California. They are? Isn't everything? Why? You can't have flavored nicotine in California. Why? What the hell is that about?

Is that like... Because they just want to be able to tell you what to do. Yeah. That's a symptom of the... You can go buy whiskey. You can go to CVS and buy a jug of whiskey and drink yourself to death. But you can't buy flavored... But you cannot buy flavored zins.

That makes no sense. That makes zero sense. You can't buy flavored vapes because they don't want to encourage kids. Because you know how kids are. They just want to... They want flavored zins. I hear I'm talking about it all the time. So fucking stupid.

It's so stupid. California's just so dumb. They just want to tell you what to do. It's a bunch of nannies. And if it's legal, they're going to tax it and regulate it. Exactly. And everybody's moving out. People just flee in that state like it's on fire.

Everybody's coming here. They're coming here. They're going to Tennessee. They're going to Florida. They're going anywhere. They can just be left the fuck alone. I think of hell, it has to be. New York's not much better.

No. Well, hell, everybody's running out of there too. Not me. I'm there for life. I'm not going to way. Yeah, it just sucks when the government gets goofy. And you're like, what are you talking? about now that Kathy Holtrell lady is saying go to Palm Beach and get get those people to come

back to New York remember before all of you go move to Florida that's what she said Which is a crazy thing to say that's a crazy thing to say it's so delusional But that guy that lady's nuts anyway yeah She said the vaccines were a gift from God like she said she talks crazy It's like people were so tired of Cuomo they're like who else? Okay fine you run it You know what I mean it's like How did that lady become, like, your best choice? That seems nuts.

That makes me concern that Stephen Corby is doing the next fucking Lord of the Rings. Who is? He's like he's writing the movie or something, him and his son. And I know he's a fucking little bit of a wheel. Wait a minute, Colbert? Yeah. Colbert report? Peter Jackson was making an announcement.

I know all the nerd news. Peter Jackson was making an announcement about a new Lord of the Rings movies coming out with, and I'm partnering up with, well, let me show you. And all sudden they go to Stephen Corby reading a Lord of the Rings book. Oh, hey, you know, they planned it. And he's like, yeah, I took it from this part of the thing. So you're going to have any dancing syringes in there?

Poor Tolkien, they shit all over his thing. That rings of power is just a fucking mess. Piece of shit. What is that? Orcs were feelings. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're making orcs with feelings. Yeah, like, yeah, they were like, yeah, they were like kids.

They were like little kids. It was weird. What? Yeah. It is, what is this? Rings of Power, the Amazon series of the Lord of the Rings, is the biggest pile of shit next to the Aculite. Everybody's shit on our fucking childhood or shit on,

they shit on the major franchises that had some really good lore. Like everything from Star Trek, what the fuck they did with that? Dude, everything, Disney Touch, they fucked up. Marvel, everything. How do you fuck up orcs? No, no, they made them terrifying. Yeah, no, they weren't terrifying. How do you fuck up the whole?

Hulk. They make him smart and they made him a pussy. Donald's kicked his ass and he never got his balls back if the Donald's kicked his ass. Yeah, that's an orc, bro. Yeah, now watch him with the helmet. Click on that dude with the helmet. They look like they have feelings.

Jesus Christ. Oh, no, yeah, they're making them like they're discriminated against. Oh, no, it's fucking brutal. That guy's got feelings for real? Yeah, he had feelings and yeah. No, they're not supposed to have feelings. There's no more good for a human. It's supposed to be like demons.

Nope. No, no. No. No. I want on the lower right-hand corner with the fucking helmet on. Look at that. Oh, fuck, yeah, dude. You don't know his backstory.

He might be a good guy. They were like, no, father, no father. I don't want him to be a good guy. Me neither. I want orcs, old school, like from the movies. That's why that night of the seven kings was refreshing because it had no bullshit in it. There you go. Wow.

Oh, Jesus. Well, give the guy a chance. Who knows? Maybe it's awesome. I said he had a cameo in Desolation of Smog. Oh, no shit. They did an animated series at The War of Rohem, which was a piece of shit. They made a girl boss in there.

They had all the cool dudes get killed, and the girl's killing everybody, and she knows everything. And they took it from, like, one, like, she was in, like, one paragraph and fucking into the thing, and they just gave her this big backstory of being a badass. It's like the Fantastic Four with the female Silver Surfer. She appeared in maybe one or two comics. This bitch is not a main character, no shape, know how but boom there's there she is. Is the real silver surfer

in it too? No. No. They'd got they seem silly. Exactly. Not it? So there was a female silver surfer for a while? No. Like very sporadically. Like maybe appeared in one or two. It was actually his, now you're getting on my nerd side. It was

his wife before he was the silver surfer. Like Shalabal, it was his chick. And the Russo brothers they are they are they they've been hitting it out of the park with every Marvel movie they did yeah so they're doing doomsday which is going to be coming

which is basically going to be they're putting out end game again in theater in the theaters and it's going to be like directly like it's going to take place directly awesome good good well I heard ruin King Thor's coming so I'm fucking ready for that they did winter soldier it's like the highest level of Thor

oh that's fucking cool let's keep going oh my guy you're such a nerd He's fucking great I don't know is his comedy The highest level of Thor The highest show of Storr is such a crazy thing We're a grown-ass man

It's a big ass, fucking grown-ass man The highest level of Thor That stuff's my WWE I love that shit Because I grew up on the comics I love comedy But they ruined those fucking movies, man It's fucking Thor

Ragnanock was fun Dude, love and thunder Horrible Oh, my friend the rock monster And his life made ball. Right. What the fuck? Why, though?

What does that have to do with anything? You got to give credit to the D.C. movies then. Because they never ruined Batman. Right? The most recent Batman's, at least, the Christian Bail Batman's and the new one of Robert Pattinson. It was still pretty dark and like, dark. Yeah.

Just like, yeah. There was like, there's no bullshit in them. There's no, it wasn't. They didn't. They fucking murdered that, Thor did kill him. And Gore, like Christian Bale played Gore in that movie. In the comics, that is the, fucking best Thor story

Gores like first of all he did on the movie but he's killing every killing all the other gods like I mean Thor his fucking dad had to get a whole crew to come and fight this guy and none of that really

was showed in the movie at all it was horrible loving thunder it was never I didn't know he was such a nerd oh for comics yeah I didn't know why didn't they do it like the fucking oh wow looking him there see if you can look in the comic, like the comic version of

Gore, because it's not even close. So this is already out? Well, that was shit. That was shit, loving fun. Damn, look out. Look at his... Click on that, what your cursor's on. What the fuck, man.

Yeah, they wrecked. He was a perfect guy to play it, but they just ruined the character. Yeah, he can't play him Christian Bell. Yeah, they should have done it just by the comic books. He shouldn't be able to rewrite history like that and fuck it up. See, it's Gore the God Butcher. Yeah, that's ruined King Thor, just in case you were wondering. Jesus Christ.

How many like Thor's the same guy? It's just levels. Oh. Explain that. Uh-oh. Whoa. Damn, he looks good in the movie. That's pretty dope.

It's probably also just the rendering, because I don't know that they've shown stuff like this year. When does the movie come out? Later this year. Dune's Day comes out this year, and so does Dune Messiah. It's a good year to be a nerd. Yeah. Well, the nerd movie sell the best if you think about it. The comics book movies are like 100% guarantee.

Harry Potter. Yeah. The Harry Potter show that they do it on HBO. I read, find out if it's true. Put this in a perplexity. Our wonderful AI sponsor. If they made, it cost them $100 million each episode. What?

The new one that's coming out? This new one, apparently it's so highly produced. It's like they've risked a billion dollars. Oh my God. It's supposed to be insane. The Harry Potter? But it's Harry Potter. And I feel like you can't miss.

with Harry Pye. Except with trans people. There's a lot of controversy with the casting because they did a race swap with Snape. Snape? He's like a guy that's $100 million per episode. That's going to be a rough one, man, because his backstory is not good. It hasn't been confirmed yet. Several recent reports claim the budget is around $100 million per episode.

Jesus. Seven planned season, eight episodes per season, 56 episodes total. That per episode figure implies an estimate. total production cost of about $5.6 billion. It looks like it's done well. I saw the coming attractions. How are you?

You have to. If you're going to do a Harry Potter, you're going to do it to the maximum. I got to get into Harry Potter because there's not a lot of black characters in it, but there is one. There's one now. But you know,

but before that, the one character, guess what his name is? I'm not guessing anything. Dean Thomas. Shut the fire. I swear to God. Get it out of here. I swear to God.

Really? I want my royalties for this. I want my royal. How was it spelled? You got another goddamn job. It doesn't spell the real way, but, yeah. There it is. There it is.

Dean Thomas, my favorite side character. Yep. Not many blacks, but out of here. The one is Dean Thomas. So why is it controversial because they race swap this game? Because his backstory was, I think he was in love with Harry's mom and then they fucking, I think they all beat him up and stuff. It's just not a good look.

You know what I mean? Because he plays Black Snape. So you're implying that they beat him up because he's black? Well, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it's not. I'm saying to make him like a character that's, I don't know. Why does he like Meek Mill? It could be interesting.

It could be interesting. If they just follow the books, it's going to be amazing. I, you know, I missed the book. I was a little bit older. My kids loved the Harry Potter. You know, people, adults read the books and shit. I think it's the most successful books of all time.

Is it? Yeah. I think so. I think it's like right up there with the Bible. Damn. I feel bad for that lady. Find that out. Put that into her privacy.

She got crucified for just saying. Compare the sales of Harry Potter. She stuck their guns, though. She got crucified for being logical and reasonable and telling the truth and trying to protect women and all these fucking people's, these actors are still saying she said problematic things. I want to hold them down. And say, tell me what she said that's problematic.

Yeah, that was a bit unfair to her. It's just thought it was a lot. There was an article written about this one actor that did it where it said he is more concerned with being on the right side of Hollywood than the right side of history. And that's accurate. Yeah. Because these people all don't want to offend these dorks in Hollywood that are out of their fucking minds. Enormously commercially, commercially, what does that mean? Enormously commercially successful.

But the Bible has sold far more copies overall. Harry Potter series has sold over 500 million copies, estimated for the Bible's around 5 to 6 billion copies. How many copies of the Quran have been printed? I mean, there's also multiple versions of the Bible, and there's seven books of Harry Potter, so there's not seven, you know. Right, right, right, right. You could break it down, so there's 45 books in the Bible, and those are all sold. Yeah, but most people buy it as the Bible. Correct, I know, but there's also the King James Bible.

There's the Boston Bible. And there's the Old Testament and, yeah. So by fewer copies, Harry Potter book sales are estimated to have generated about $7.7 billion in revenue. Not a Harry Potter in every hotel room in the country either. That's true. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, they keep that Bible in that hotel room just in case.

Right. That's a weird thing, right? Yeah. Why do they do that? Well, I think someone donated it. Like, there was a Bill Hicks joke he did about it back in the day. I forget. There was a name on the Bible.

Like it was a da-da-da Bible. Like someone, like one family donated Bibles to like every hotel room. The Gideon Bible? I think that's it. Is that it? Might be. I mean, that's one of the names.

The Gideon family. I think that was the judge. That was part of the guy. Who the fuck are the Gideon? I was so depressed. When I got here, I brought my Metaquest and I realized I brought two right controllers. I'm like, no.

I had my headset on. I go. No. No. No. I'm playing A. I'm playing the game now? A new game.

What's the game? Jamie, get ready for this. Forefront. 16 on 16. There's tanks. There's fucking choppers. F-O-R-E front. It is,

forget about Pop 1, forget about contractors. I know I hyped them up on here before. This fucking game is just pure adrenaline. Okay. I just wanted to stay back. I just wanted to get that out.

Joe. I'm telling you, you used to like the quake shit. Yeah, I want to see what it looks like. This, forefront is so good. Here it is. This is it. 16 on 16. Yeah, that's, but where's the gameplay?

This is the, you have to, I love the sniping. Oh, you give me my behemoth, and I am fucking taking people out. Did you just bring that dude back to life? Yeah, they fucking hit him with the defibrillator. But it is so, look at the tanks. But you're seeing this through your VR. It is so much fun. Me and my brother-in-law, Edwin,

we go on this motherfucker and we take souls. You can get on a bike? You could do the four-wheeler. They have anti-aircraft. They have carriers, ACPs, they have tanks. How do you have a life outside of this? Well, I don't.

That's the problem with these things. Listen, I have a house of women, you know. They're watching love on the spectrum, and I'm playing this. The problem is these are too good. They're too fun. They can take your whole life away. No, I got a two-hour time limit on. I play into my parents.

battery dies. That's good. You know? Two hours, that's all those things last? Well, around that, hour and a half. Hey, after a day making people more dangerous, do my podcast. You know, I deserve. Oh, you deserve. I deserve it. I deserve it. I deserve it. I'm just scared. I'm scared. I watch it. I get scared. You should. Hey, we could squat

up. No, no, no, no. Come on. You would get addicted to this. No, no, yeah, yeah. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It was like... I can't play to you. It was like a cracker that couldn't get his lighter working today. I'm like, ha! No! Because that's how I like to kill time here when I'm fucking... I made a decision a long time ago to never bring a, like, a gaming setup with me on the road.

I'm like, I can't do it. Everywhere he goes. I start playing. I'll be up to 4 o'clock in the morning. I'll be... Any first-person shooter where you're running around a map and there's another dude on the map and you've got to get a rocket launcher and fuck him up. It starts to feel real.

It feels very real. Me last night, then I had to go back to... What is this one? Old-fashioned whack it off. What does it look like? Oh my God, it's Doom. It's Doom in VR. Oh, no, this is a problem.

I got to find this. But Doom is... I actually think this is the single player of Quake 1. Yeah. Oh, it is Quake 1. Yeah. Oh, wow. You like the Quake stuff.

Love it. But I'm more of a Quake 3 arena guy. Because Quake 3 Arena, like, show them some Quake 3 arena. They got the graphics down, and then they had it set up where everything was online. So you didn't have to, like, buy the new VARTA. version of Quake and download it to your computer and run it and play it and no it's online so you just log in and you're playing this streaming it's fucking phenomenal it's like that now with the matter of you just get updates show some highlights of game play so you can see what it looks like oh this is the VR version oh Jesus Christ

why you showing me this don't show me this because I was going to tell you next that the Applevision pro is being updated now so we can play with higher don't do this to me dude don't do this to me this is my game I fucking love this game As if you had a Starlink I could get it to this on the planet? Shut the fuck up I'm not doing this

Is it a battle royale You just gotta kill everybody? Yeah The problem is man I start doing it And if I start fucking people up I can't stop It's fun dude

And I got pretty good at it Not like you know I could win tournaments Good but I got pretty good at it Like I fucked these guys up The dudes in the studio I fucked up Oh dude I would get real addicted to it

And I'd start getting Yeah that's a problem And I start playing online and just going into rooms. Next thing you know, your life is ruined. Oh, this is one of my favorite maps. You bounce out to this one

and everybody could see you, so they're all sniping you when you try to come back when you get the God power. Now you just fucking destroy everyone. You speak in my language. Yeah, look at this, bro. You got a rail gun, precision movement.

Boom, look at that. That's the rail. Look at the rail gun, bro. You've got to have super accuracy. Boom. And while you got God power, you just have to hit them once. Boom.

Boom. Look at that. Oh shit. This guy's got timing. This is a dick. This is like, you're watching, I'm watching people smoke crack. And I'm going, oh, give me that pipe, baby. Give me that pipe.

It's so funny. But if that was VR, I would never have a life. I don't have a life. I can't do it. It's just helps balance me out. You know what it's like, dude? It's like jujitsu if you never got tired. Yeah, well, that's why you have the battery life on it.

That thing gets tired. Imagine jih Tzu if you never got tired. You just never get tired. You would just do it all day. If you never got hurt, you never got tired. You would just be training constant. Especially if you were fucking people low. Oh, my God.

You're always winning and tapping people out. Once you got to a certain level, I mean, this is, to me, straight crack. Oh, dude, that looks fun. Come on, how fun is this game? You're swapping weapons instantaneously, and you have certain weapons set to different keys. Like, my rail gun is always this middle-the-wheel button. I hit that motherfucker-upor. I get the rail gun.

And you can adjust your speed of your mouse, depending on the weapon. Do you hear the other players? Do they complain when you use a certain weapon? I don't know if they use that with this. I never did. I don't... When you chat with Quake, you would have to pull the menu down and chat.

If you have a bunch of people talking while you're playing, it's going to ruin your game experience. Yeah, sometimes with this... I would shut that off. I don't want anybody talking shit. I just want to kill you. They're like, good job. Yeah, good job, Unk.

They call me Unk. Good job, Unk. You have to use a shotgun pussy. I try to be mature. I'm like, you're dead, you little fuck. You're dead. You should use a shotgun, cock sucker. Yeah, yeah, they complain when I kill them.

They're like, what are you, 30? You're playing a game? I'm like, well, I'm actually 51. Thank you, kid. I'll take 30. What is the old guy's on? He's like 30. I'm like, well.

I remember when I was in high school, I found out Madonna was 26. I was like, oh, she's old. Dude, I would have been getting ready for a fight at 35. I was getting ready for Trigg. And I had Gianvalante there. Now he's older than this now. Dude, how does it feel to be 35? I go, dude, fuck you.

I'm still fighting. Fuck you, man. I bring that up to him now. He's like 40 now. I say you caught up to me a little, you know? Yeah, man. You know? It's weird.

We're all dying. I know. It is. I mean, I think about it, like, we don't got much time left. Slow to process. I'm 58. What are you, Johnny? 57.

Yeah. Oh, you guys could have worked at high school together. You're like a class above. I'm 51. Young man. I'm still only 49. You're full of shit. I'm 49.

Keeping it together. Yeah. All right. I like it. I thought you would be like a Brazilian. Haldrigo Gracie used to lie about his fucking age, like a chick. I go, dude, you're my age. What is I say, fucking 29 still?

No one knows how old Yowell is. Yeah, I bet. He's probably older. I know. Might be older. It does feel weird when you say 51. Like, when I say 51, I'm like, oh, 50s. And I'm almost fucking 60.

You never really picture you'll be at age. Yeah, me too. I'm almost 60. I mean, when we were growing up, though, 60 was broken down. Yeah, that's a big difference from. Shout out to Ways to Well. Yeah, right? Life med for me.

Waste to well. Do you hang out with younger guys? Because I hang out with all young people. You're in the gym. You're with younger people all the time. I'm always with younger comics. Unless it was Ron White. Right.

It's those worlds. And I bet you when you hang out with Ron White doesn't feel like you hanging out with an old man. No. It's like me in Longo. That guy's awesome. He's a gem. Longo's 67.

He'll just say, he'll throw away something. It'll just be so funny. We'll be dying laughing. He's a natural. naturally funny dude and just a sweetheart of a guy he was good in tires also oh he's great and i like that show yeah well you know he's homies with chain Shane's always there too tonight it's but that's again like young people that are doing the thing we all love to do having fun just just like a jujitsu gym just like anything else you don't i mean this idea that you have to one day grow up like that's

not true i'm here to tell you it's not true you should grow up in some ways like be a good dad take care of your taxes you know that kind of stuff what you look at me after that you But after that, shut up. Shut up. Have fun. That's me in a fucking nutshell. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with you playing those games. Just don't tell those kids how old you are.

I don't do. They call me an old man. This guy sounds 30. I'm like, you little fuck. Yeah. But it's fun, no. Don't have a heart attack for real. You have to take any shit breaks in the middle of your VR experiences?

No, but I'm not above keeping in those little bass that when they get wise. I'm squatting down on him in my fucking thing You can tee bag a guy after you kill him? They get him out of the eye will teabag somewhere I don't give a fuck You don't outgrow that So you actually squat physically and it does it?

Maybe My wife's like, what are you doing? He deserves it, honey That's crazy That's crazy Sometimes different than a video control You're actually squat That's crazy

You get my squats in Have you seen those multi-directional treadmills Yeah, but I'm not... Yeah, but I'm not... Yeah, but I'm not running. My knees aren't good for that. So there's a treadmill, like a circle,

and it goes in any direct... Omnidirectional, I think they call it, and you're strapped in with a harness that keeps you from... And you just move. You move like you're running. You would be in same shape. Yeah.

There would be some people in better shape. Oh, do you... You would think how good that would be for your footwork? Like, if you could have a VR... There's a good VR boxing game. And one of the things that I noticed when I was playing it was when my feet were hurting. Because I was doing it on...

concrete on cement and I was wearing like Converse All-Stars and you just push it off your feet all time. I was like oh my god I'm getting a footwork out this is crazy like it was gassing me out because you really see the guy and he pops you everything goes white like you got stunned like boom yeah and you're going to get them back right yeah you're moving you're moving around stuff there's a bunch of them I got to get into those they're tired that's tiring I did that before it's stupid is when you hold the gloves like if you hold the hand things like this it shows the like this. So when you're punching, it looks like you're punching them wrong. So it fucks your head up. Yeah. You know what I mean? So when you're twisting to punch, it's showing this and it

fucks your head up. Give it a fucking wing chunk pitch. Yeah. So like if you punch like this, it'll look like the knuckles are coming up, but you're doing this. Oh, yeah. Figure how can't they get that? They should get that right. It should be where your hands are positioned. Exactly. So if you hold it like that, it should be the gloves are like that, and then you turn it like that and it looks. So that way it doesn't fuck with your head while you're punching that thing because it's weird. Clearly the, you know, developers. Yeah.

Some boxers. Get to that program and fix that. But I think there's some real benefit in it, for real, because first of all, it's harder to hit air than it is to hit a thing, right? So you get a little workout doing that. The things don't weigh much, but you'd always put like a little wrist weight or something. Or someone can make a controller that has lead in it that has a couple of pounds for

each one. You get good endurance doing it. And you're doing a lot of footwork drills. It's like you're Lomachenko. I mean, definitely moving around them. Good for you. And it's also. showing you how to move away from things and counter.

There's a bunch of different things that you could actually apply to, it's better than real shadow boxing. Yeah, I was going to say it's like, it's like intense extreme shadow boxing. Yes, yes. It's like you're really visualizing because there's an actual thing in front of you. I think there's benefit to it. I think it would help you. I mean, 100% I think there would be benefit.

Yeah, and you're not getting hit, right? So it's timing where. Not getting the CTE along with you. It's not going to replace sparring. You're always going to need a spar, but it'll give you a lot of, like, neural pathways to different movements that you'll have, like, programmed in you

in a fight with zero consequences. Right. That's great. Yeah. You can't do it with Jiu-Jitsu, unfortunately. But you probably could with a robot one day. Right. You get a good AI robot, you know,

that's not going to spaz out on you and rip your fucking head off. I would never trust that, right? Imagine if the AI got mad if you could be tapped in too many times. I'm going to show you my heart. Real Strength Dean. Dean, in this next row, I'm not going to go easy. What?

What do you mean? I'm watching. You know what? Put your eyes out. You got me into this. Only because they look human, the cyclons. I'm watching the Battlestar Galactica. I started watching it.

It's great. It's really good. What is that on? I'm almost on the first season. It was on the sci-fi network years ago. It was an un-appreciated series. It's one of the greatest sci-fi series of all time. of all time.

The reboot of Battlestar Galactica. And I was super skeptical. Because Battlestar Galactic when I was a kid, I loved it. Everybody was a big movie, it was a very camping. And then all of a sudden, Skywalker was a girl now. It was like what? Starbucks. Starbuck was a girl now.

Katie's amazing. She's great now. That fucking series rules, dude. It's complex, great writing. I'm on the first season. I'm almost done with it now. I got like an episode left. Way better than the original series.

It's really, it's really fucking. It's phenomenal. It's really good. And the sirens scare the fuck out of you. And they're hot chicks. Yeah. It's ruined your life. Oh, my favorite.

Oh, it's good. Yeah, everybody's favorite. It's great. It's a great fucking series. John James Elmos or whatever? James Elmos. Yeah, he was great. Is he alive?

Did he die? I don't know. James Almost. Is he alive? Edward James. Edward James Almost. He was great in that. He was great in that.

Mexican prison movie. Remember that? Yeah, what was that? Blood in blood out. Yeah, blood in blood out. You got in trouble with that. They wanted to kill him because they made it out like these dudes are fucking each other in jail. Oh.

They're not? Yeah. Even if they are. Yeah. Don't talk about it. Snitches get stitches. Yeah, man. I think people died because of that movie.

No. Yeah, I think people were killed. Yeah, I thought that heard something about that. Yeah. Makes you not want to go to jail. Well, I just don't think they let these dudes know how they were going to portray him in jail. and I think, you know They weren't happy about that

Severe disrespect Is he alive? Edward James Almost? Yes. Oh, good for him. He's phenomenal in that show. Phenomenal in that show. Yeah, it's a great show.

Yeah, yeah, I just got a... I think I heard you talking about it and I put it in... I got on Amazon Prime. I bought the first season. It's fucking good. There's another Amazon series. What's it called?

Not the eclipse. The expanse. Yes, yes. That's supposed to be phenomenal. I watched a bunch of those. I got to get back into that. Sometimes it gets a little chatty. I watched a couple of them.

I was like, I could see this could be really good, but my wife wasn't into it, so we abandoned it. It's good. I keep hearing. I keep hearing. I hear once you get past, like, the first few episodes, it really picks up. Yeah, it's good. It has Thomas Jane. What's Thomas Jane?

Oh, yeah. He played the Punisher. Yeah, he's in that, at least the first season. It's good. The guy who's the lead guy, he reminds me of John Snow. Really? He looks like a guy. skinnier John Snow.

On Apple they had... John Bernthal played the Punisher, right? Yeah, there was a bunch of people played him. How many people played the punisher? Well, I mean, the guy from run... Didn't Dolph Lundgren do it in one point in before? Yeah, that's back in a day. Did he?

Dolph Lungren did? They gave him fake stubble, and it was obvious. It was like, literally like the makeup lady didn't even try. She just smudge some fake. It's the worst that didn't face stubble you've ever seen in your fucking life. See if you can find that. Dolf Lundgren, face stubble. from the Punisher.

It's like you're looking at that go like, just leave him unshaven. Yeah, he was cool as him. There's a guy from Rome, Stevenson. I know, but you can't see it in there. Like a photo from the actual movie, it looked like, why does he have smudges all over his cheeks? Yeah, I like Barrenthal

the best. The new Spider-Man movie, he's going to be in it, the Punisher. The Punisher is supposed to be gigantic, though. He's supposed to be like that dude that plays Reaper. I thought Ray Stevenson. I don't. Adam Richer.

Yeah, Adam Richmond. He's supposed to be like Adam Richmond. He's supposed to be, that's what the punisher is supposed to be. It's supposed to be a giant jack dude who kills everybody. And good for Richer for smacking that guy around. Yeah, like I deserved it. You know, he looks like he's running with his kids. The guy got in his face, made him drop his bike, got in his face again.

He deserved a smack to do. He pushed him off his bike. Yeah. You know. How hell? That guy looked like a retard. Well, he said he was drunk, so the guy smelled like booze. I know shit.

Smack him up. He was asking, they showed the cops version of the video when they went to his house. He was like, could you run. of toxicology on that guy because I think he's drunk. He smelled like liquor. The guy tried to knock him up. But you see that guy? What are you doing?

Why are you pushing that? He's real lucky he had that camera on. You know what I mean? Oh, 100%. 100%. Because if you only got to see him beating that guy up, that would have been a real fucking problem because that guy denied it. But he had a camera going on his chest pack.

Luckily. Yeah. You see that guy grabbing the bike and pushing him. Yeah. Got put hands on him first. In front of kids, man. So many people out there deserve a lot. If you're on a bike and you fall on the bike.

falls in your leg like you fucking idiot yeah you know you're dangerous you break someone's fucking like that way you drunk fuck a hundred percent warranted when I went to go see that project Hail Mary the other day dude this this motherfuckers I got the second row and sure enough the first row like five teenagers dude they don't even they have their phone and it's bright and you see it like they don't give a fuck the lady there's a couple next to me older The lady comes out, she takes her thing out. I'm like, I feel like saying,

you should know better lady. What the fuck? And the kids, I want to say, a couple times I got up and then they put it down, I'm like, I know I'm going to say something. And if I get the wrong response, am I going to smack a 15-year-old? Am I going to smack?

If I get a, hey, fuck you, you guy, what's going to happen? Because I'm not totally normal. I mean, you know what I mean? I just don't want to. Because this right and is wrong. A whole generation has not been checked. They're going to get smacked because they're valid.

And I just see UFC fighter a smacks 15-year-old. I didn't see that happening. But anyway, I got out of there without nothing. But it's just so annoying. These kids are so addicted to their phones. They can't put them down for five seconds. And movies too, yeah, it's crazy. In movie theater.

They can't stop texting people. Yeah. They're not enjoying anything. Everything they're doing, they're getting distracted. Yeah, which is crazy. I feel like talking to their parents. That's not going to help. You know?

No, you got to smack them. Someone's got to smacking. Yeah. Man, I'll tell you. That happened. Our generation, if you acted a fool, you got slapped. Yeah, if you talked mouth in a movie theater, someone's going to get up. You know, if you were loud in a movie theater.

Yeah. People would get up and, hey, shut the fuck up. Yeah. Like, I've seen that happen many times in movie theaters. Yeah. People almost getting fights. They don't do that no more. That is, there's no repercussions, I think, a whole.

what did Mike Tyson say What do he say? He said something like A lot of people You get used to talking shit When I'm getting smacked So you get punched in the face Something like that

Yeah And it's just true Like people just don't worry about anything You know But there's also so many streamers That are doing these things online Where they're provoking people on purpose That it's almost like

Normalizing fucking I hate that Yeah I like when they get smacked Yeah they think it's like They're creating content By harassing these people Fucking but old people

Like just walking up to people In the store and doing shit to him. I don't understand it. Tiki elbowed that kid in the face. Oh, yeah. Fuck that kid. He's starting shit with everybody.

I was happy to see Tiki fucking fucking fucking. I mean, I look at that. I'm like, that's warranted. I mean, you're in my face. Tell me you're going to fuck me up. I could do this. He said he's going to fuck him up, and then he got close to him like he was going to bump into him.

Yeah. Well, I mean, you know what? They don't even give a shit because they get clicks. I don't think they give a shit. That's because they're getting hit by, like, regular people. Except for the Tiki case, but they're getting him by regular people. But I'm waiting for the opportunity to lay these five on somebody's chin. They'll be the first.

I'm trying to put somebody out out here. They'll press charges, they'll sue you. Also, you know, if you knock somebody out and they fall and hit their head and die, that's a fucking problem. Yeah, that'd be a problem. And that's a real possibility. The body shots. Strangle them and lay them down to you. That liver shot.

Right, but you know you're not going to throw a body shot. This is crazy. These dummies got in a fight with the four or a UFC heavyweight champion in the current. So funny. Bare knuckle boxing champion in the world. You dumbasses. That was hilarious when I saw this. Look, he's just teeing off on dudes.

Imagine you get an Andre Arlowski's face. How the fuck do you not know who he is, first of all? Again, my point is exactly. How do you not know who Andrea Olavski is? So dumb. They got their bodyguards next to them to try to go. Shout out to that dude. When's bare knuckle boxing?

Oh, Alasky's a stud. Yeah. I mean, he's still getting after it. And he still seems to enjoy it. Like, almost 30 years in the game. And he's the guy that you kind of. rode off his chin a while ago and then all of a sudden it's like I never saw a chin make a comeback oh incredible comeback dude Freddie rich said he thought he could really be a contender if he just

had a you know proper chin like he said his boxing skills were there well I mean there was so many times where he got clipped like the fadour one was the wildest he was winning that fight he was dude he was good in a middle of a jumping knee oh it's a big mistake laces out moment right Fador, that motherfucker just found ways to win. He just found ways to win, man. Sure did. Remember when Randleman? Was it Randomman?

He came back. He still beat him yet. He'll beat him yet. Then he Kimmored him. Yeah, like, a couple minutes later. They ain't easy to Kimora or gorilla. You know what I'm saying? And Randleman was so explosive.

It was so fast. That guy was just nothing but face-twitch muscle fiber. Pre-E-Sodda, 100, 100. Right? He had the worst staff I've ever seen in my life. Oh, he had a whole leg, right? He had holes in his armpit. He lifts his armpit up and you could see the skin was gone.

You could see the tendons and all the ligaments. Jesus Christ. See if you can find it, Jamie. It's the craziest thing. Because staff, if you don't get that shit treated right away and you let it get systemic, I mean, it probably led to his early demise. It probably was something that led to him dying early, rest and peace. Look at that.

That's his armpit. That's his armpit, dude. Keep his fucking wallet in there. You know how crazy that is? You know what that kind of hole is and what that does to your body? Ah, damn. Because it's not, even when that heals up, like, it's going to take a long time for your body gets back to normal. Ooh, man.

Staff's scary, man. Staff's real scary. Oh, come on, man. I want to say. I want to say, Pete Spratt fought a fight when he had, then he fight one, he got bit by a brown recluse, like his leg had a fucking hole in it. Well, those are scary. Those fuckers. Damn.

They necrotize you. They, like, their venom burns a hole through your muscle tissue. Oh. Oh, it's horrible. You've ever seen brown recluse spider bites? No. It's like first just swells up and you get like a big zit on it and then it eventually eats the tissue underneath the venom.

Fucking spiders. Yeah, you got to get that treated right away. And even then, it's like really dangerous. People die from it. Brown recluse are scary fucking spiders. See if you can find brown recluse spider injury. Nasty dude. Yeah.

Creepy little fucking bugs out there. I think I'm going to get the eggplant roll aty later. we'll see what else we have I just want to show you one more gross thing that we could move on bland like damn

yeah oh come on man oh is that a water balloon burns a hole in you yeah what are those things live at I don't want to get bit by that Texas they're all over the place

we're so lucky they're little oh you got that shit out here those things but imagine that was as big as a bear Yeah, oh, you know, We're just glad you to pray and man it's as big as a bear Dude, in Long Island, I guess We just got some assholes out there

But we don't got to worry about fucking Things getting flesh off and shit It's a few serial killers Yeah, a few serial killers Guys wearing wife beatties, that's it I was just watching this video Where they said the most popular job for serial killer

Is those long-range truckers Makes sense? Yeah I mean, you got, I mean, you're on the road Got a lot of access to a lot of different people. Yeah, and also you think you just kind of... Keep it moving. Yeah, keep it moving, yeah.

Before they even know what happened, you're gone. Yeah. There's a bunch of them that are linked to potentially to long-range truckers that they've never solved. Really? Yeah. They don't catch a lot of those guys. That's what's fucked up.

You want to think that life's like a movie. Where they catch them all? They don't catch them in the end. But random killers are some of the hardest to catch because they just show up, kill somebody to leave. and there's no rhyme or reason to it they just wanted to kill somebody so there's no like motive

it's hard to tell and if they've done it and not gotten caught for a few years if they're clever like a lot of these guys like the Zodiac Killer he was brilliant he wrote things in code they had the

I don't even know if they ever cracked all of it they still don't know who the fuck it was they did that movie yeah I saw that movie right yeah they kind of made it like it was the janetta guy I don't think they know

I mean unless there's some new data unless there's some new information I think it's an unsolved mystery, but he was obviously brilliant. So you got a really smart guy who's just randomly killing people and he's also taunting you with letters, leaving letters behind.

It's got to be a little more difficult now with all the cameras and shit. What has John Don ever been up to? Does he have an hour? Was he in Illinois from Guido Beach? Was he in New York at that time? The dark lord trying out new techniques.

That's fucking great. All right, boys, should we wrap this up? Man, good times. Oh, one more thing we should probably talk about. The White House card. Ooh. Yeah. You going?

Yeah, unless things get crazy between now and then. But the idea of them fighting outside in Washington, D.C., in the middle of summer. Nice humility and heat. Crazy to me. You ask someone to dehydrate themselves to cut weight. You know, I mean, think about Gaichi. Gaechie's going to cut. He's got a cut to get to 55.

Ilya probably doesn't have to cut too much. But you're fighting for the world title, and you're fighting outside. The noon time has now been corrected, which is more sense. We get good weather. So the pay-per-view or the main card starts at 8 p.m. Eastern. Hey, I was in the middle. I was in Abu Dhabi when they did that. That's a little better.

Yeah. But also, it can rain. It can easily rain. There's going to be bugs. Imagine getting lit up by mosquitoes. While you're mounting a guy, you hear him, and you hear them? Will they put a tent up over the... I don't know what they're going to do.

Dude, back in the day, they'd have King of Cage, it was like raining out and shit. It was called like Wet and Wild or something. Yeah. It's a mess. That was a good one. Fights outside are a mess. It's a mess. It's a terrible idea.

I hate it. There was a couple of inches of rain in that cage. That was a crazy show. If you're fighting in an elite world championship level, you should be fighting in a controlled environment. Period. Right. It's already a problem enough. To fight, to deal with the air.

Yeah, why cause the extra factors? Yeah, and all these different variables, you might not get the best fighter. Right. And it also might severely impair someone who's had gone through a big weight cut. If it's really hot out, I don't know what it's going to be like, but we looked it up. Wasn't it last year at that same date? I think that was 20, I guess, four, but still, it's like average. It was like 100 degrees.

A hundred degrees. A hundred degrees. Yeah, dude. With the humidity. I live it there. I live in Baltimore. It'll be hot and huge. Everybody's dealing with the same thing, though, so it's not like somebody's got something different to deal with it.

Right, but it's not fair. Because people deal with them differently. If you're having world championship fights where you're going to decide who's the best in the world, it should be in controlled environment. Yeah. You know? The White House, baby. It's still the fucking. We were not legal in New York when I was fighting, and now we're at the fucking White House.

It's crazy. That is wild. They're doing it. I support all crazy things, so. I'm going too, so. Yeah, well, you have to. You have to. It's your job.

It's my job, too. I just got, I just got the call for clearance. I'm going, so. I'll be watching on Paramount Plus. Yeah. Jimmy wanted to go. He's like, can we go? I'm like, oh.

I'm like, how many people are going to be outside in the audience? That's the question. I don't know. Like, how many people are going to, is it going to be a round thing? Well, apparently, I think on Saturday's broadcast, they're going to announce, like, how it's going to look. So, like, that's part of the, I think, part of the allure for watching Saturday shows. They're going to announce how it's supposed to look. It's exciting, though.

You've got to say, fuck it. It's crazy. It's definitely crazy. I mean, it's a good card Saturday. We do it. Yeah. Oh, this card, you're saying? This card coming out?

Oh, yeah, Saturday's a very good card. I'm telling you, the Merzikonov and Paula Costa one is the one that I got my eye on. I'm like, that could be very interesting. Mm-hmm. Very interesting. Because Paulo's a big fucking middleweight. It might do him good later in his career to go up to light heavy weight. I think so.

And Mursa Connoff's not a big white head of his, Bob. No, he's not. He's only 5'10. Yeah, he's short. Yeah. Oh, he's got weight to cut too. I mean, he's not exactly. He ain't, he ain't, Palo.

No, no, no, not even close. He definitely carries much more body fat on him. Who is he fought? That's close to, is he fought anybody? Rockich. Stop Rockich. Well, yeah. That's it.

That's it. But he hasn't, it's been hard for him to get fights. They made Dana a little taller there. They put lightning in the... Trump's tall. The only thing he said would stop the fight. Yeah, well, that could be it. Yeah, that would suck.

Imagine if someone died from getting hit by lightning. He raised their hand up at the end of the fight, they get hit by lightning. That'd be a bad look for the UFC, I think. I just don't... Bruce Buffer gets it. I like the idea on paper, but the fact that I'm going to be there... Sequin Jack and attracted to the lights. Christ, this is going to be...

Crazy. People are probably going to protest it. It's going to be nuts. Yeah. It's going to be a lot of protesters out there. For sure. All this stuff in the world going on and get the whole fights at the White House. It's true. Because it's going to be a lot of pro-Trump people in that audience. It could be a mess. Well, that's what they like. You know, a lot of people that are running this world like when there's fights in chaos. That's a fact.

They like rioting and they'll connect it to Trump and they'll spin it and connect it to whatever the fuck they want to. I just want to see some good fights. Cyril Gahn and Pereira's a very good fight. Yeah, it's an interesting fight. Very interesting fight. Just because of Gond poking everybody in their eyes, I'd be happy to see him lose. But, I mean, the size is real and he's got legit skills. Legit skills.

That tie to Evasa fight? Remember those combinations he didn't tie with? Acting skills also, K.O. on Netflix. Setting up the South Lawn will begin one month out compared to a few days out in normal arena. Dana and Donald will have 200 tickets each to assign to who they want. 84 from each will be choosing for a VIP event inside the White House prior to the fights. Most of the rest of the tickets will go to military personnel. The event will have custom fight kits for all fighters on the card.

Wow. And then more to come Saturday with... More to come Saturday. So there'll probably be an announcement at the UFC that we'll have to talk about. It should be interesting. Nobody's giving Justin a chance here. Justin's a fucking animal, dude. I mean, he's...

And look how... Technical he fought when he had to fight for the Zeev. Fiziv. Yeah. And he's a very technical fighter. Yeah, if you go by the way he fought Patty, he kind of just walked Patty down. It's just like, was just, I'm gonna create chaos. You also gotta kind of give Patty a little break where he did get poked in the fucking eye early.

True. True. Did he get more ones? I mean, I think too, Gage he fought with staff. Did he? Pretty much everybody thought so. Yeah. Oh, that thing on his neck?

Yeah. He said it wasn't. And he's seen ingrown hair. I mean, he can say, you know, he's not gonna tell everybody he's got through. day off before to fight. I could say it after the fight. He looked good though. You know?

He's a fucking animal, dude. And the only reason I think that is he don't really get tired and he seemed like he's mentally so tough he just pushed through the tired but you could see he was fatigued at the end of that fight. Well, he's a complicated riddle on the feet too. He's a good stand-up fighter man. I mean, when he knocked out Dustin with that head kick, he's fucking. Oh yeah.

He's fucking good. I'm a gaugey fan. He can crack. Love to see him do it. In the early days, man. He was one of the wildest guys to watch ever. That Michael Johnson fight was mad. Just madness.

It was a pretty crazy one. He just goes, let's jump off the cliff together. They did a Thelma and Louise there. Right. I mean, that's what he does in those fights, man. He was one of the best early in his career at throwing leg kicks from really close distances. So close. Yeah. He got away from that.

I wonder why he got away from that. Could be injured shins. You know, could be knocked a lot of guys out with his hands. just wanted to do that more. I mean, I thought that was one of his greatest weapons is being able so close to just crazy, right? Like a weird flexibility of the hips

to do that and generate power from in close. With what, the right hand or the kick? Yeah, the kick he does so close. You'll do it in a collar tie and kick you. Nuts. And with power. Yeah. Definitely has a chance.

I mean, you know, I mean, people will just kind of not even give them a shot. I'm like, why not? That's how good, I'll. Yeah, no, I get it. He gets hit a lot, and they're just putting the equation together. He's there to get it. Ilya, man.

I mean, I've got that one-punch. It's ferocious. And look at the guys he's done it to, you know, Volcanowski, Charles, Max. Max. In a row. Ryan Hall. Three K-Os in a row against world champions. That's crazy.

Guys who are not used to getting finished. Yeah. Not like that. You know. But, you know, think about how durable Charles. For him just one shot like that, take him out, that's crazy. That's crazy. For Max.

I mean, Max did well in the first round. He did. But until he got hit. Until he got it. And he had never been knocked out. He's a different dude. You know, there's levels that this game achieves as people get better and better and better and watch everyone around them. And Ili is like, this is the next highest level, right?

You know. Now everybody's shooting for that. Boys, a lot fun. Good times. I love when we do this. It's so fun. He's just some of my favorite podcast. Oh, man.

I love coming out here. Such a good time. And also, I need to find out what's going on in the nerd world. If you want to find out what's going on in the nerd world, Matt Serra Channel on YouTube, I talk all about that geek shit. That's it. Sometimes I play VR, and I do movie reactions where it's like the mystery science theater where I talk to this screen.

Talk shit. Yeah. I talk during a movie a lot. Dean, what do you got going on? My movie, Flowers, short film coming out, and I got a new show on. Paramount Plus called Deep Waters with Jorge Masvedow, Chris Wyden, and Dustin Poyer. That starts next Monday every Monday. I like the name.

I like the name. It's awesome. Deepwater's coming out. And we're still doing ground control. Just open to school in Sykesville. Dustin Porey's actually coming out to there and the spot next door to a stratosphere on May 16th. Shogun still going. So ground control, USA.com, showgunfights.com, and at Bmore, MMA.A.

Look at you, bro. Promoter, coach, gym owner. Hustling. Hustling. All right. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Always fun. Bye, everybody.