The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #180 with Daniel Rodriguez

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

Joe sits down with Daniel Rodriguez, a professional mixed martial artist competing in the Ultimate Fighting Championship’s welterweight division.www.ufc.com/athlete/daniel-rodriguez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. D. Rod. Free. Yes, sir. What a fucking crazy story. So let's fill people in. So you were a top contender in the UFC's Walterweight Division,

and then somehow another, you wound up getting arrested in Mexico. Yeah, man, right after the Kevin Holland fight, actually. I was celebrating. in San Diego, um, had some drinks and decided, you know what? Let's go to,

let's go to TJ. See what, you know. Always a phrase that is regretted. We're not even that far. When you're in San Diego and you're drinking, you could walk there. Shit.

Yeah, yeah, literally. So, um, decided to go to, to TJ for the, for the night,

you know, go celebrate my win. I was obviously in celebration mode. And I had an ounce of weed in the car, you know, and I've been across the border, a hundred times bro never had no issues never had no problems never got stopped pulled over us the last thing i would even think is that i thought we was legal in mexico i thought i thought so too like here

i thought everything's decriminalized down there uh apparently not man the the laws are like crazy crazy strict over there you know and and i've been in situations before where i could like just offer some money and get out the situation you know like 500 bucks at at the most you know they just let me on my way but got pulled over at the border and the border inspection um found found the weed in my in my backpack and I was thinking I wasn't in that situation where I could bribe my way out of it because it's Mexico I've been there before and I've been in these situations and no man I thought you know they took me to jail that night and uh I was thinking all right I'm just going to be here for the weekend I'll get out Monday you know go to court

And they're like, no, we'll see you in a month. I'm like, a month. You know, like, why? It's just weed, you know what I mean? And, yeah, eight months later. Holy shit. Yeah, dude. Jimmy, can you please look up what the laws are in Mexico for marijuana?

Because, man, I was reading something just a few years ago. Here it goes. Marijuana is decriminalized for personal recreational use in Mexico, but there's no legal commercial. market and buying it or selling it remains illegal. For tourists and visitors, possession is strictly prohibited. Wait, what the hell? It's tourist and visitors.

So for everybody else, you would be good. Like, if you were a Mexican resident, you would have been good. It looks like, according to this. Personal limits can possess up to five grams, and up to 28 grams is decriminalized. How many grams are in a house? That's one ounce? 28? Yeah, so it was approximately 28 grams.

So approximately you should have been decriminalized. But the thing is, I think it's if you live there, the border, transporting marijuana, including edibles and concentrates across the U.S.-Mexico border is either, in either direction, is a serious federal offense. U.S. customs and border protection strictly enforces federal laws prohibiting the import, export, of cannabis. wait a minute that's that's US but what about Mexico you got arrested by Mexican police right I got I got arrested on either direction wow but but I feel like if

you got arrested by Mexico anyway tourists while small possession is technically decriminalized for Mexican residents the Mexican government explicitly prohibits tourists from possessing or consuming drugs and you could face serious jail time so that's crazy like people would go over there going hey no worries I'm in Mexico it's decriminalized here But not for a fucking tourist. They were trying to give me six years, bro. Oh, my God.

Six years. Oh, my God. We had to do all kinds of stuff for me to get out. Did the UFC get involved? Hunter did. My management did reach out to Hunter, and they couldn't do anything. Nothing. The reason why.

Isn't it? Somebody who could get a little of that. All right. We'll get into that. We'll get into that. Because I'm out. I'm out. Right.

You know, and so I learned real quick how corrupt the system is over there. Everybody's trying to get, trying to get paid. And the reason why that I was in there so long is, I guess, at the time where I got arrested, the whole judicial system was going through an election at the time. So it was new judges. So all the judges that were like taking bribes and stuff before, they had all got they switched out the judges. So the new judges were there were like,

all right, we just got here. We're not trying to take no, you know, we're trying to play it by the book and get comfortable. So I was supposed to get released in December. And I guess, I don't even know if I could even really get in trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, don't get in trouble. They're worth it.

You tell me later. If it's anything super crazy. It's very corrupt. It's very corrupt in there. But, you know, You know, it's crazy, dude. Like, even being in there, um, so my whole experience, my whole experience in there was like so crazy.

How well do you speak Spanish? I'm, I'm, I'm a expert now. I'm like fluent. Because of that experience or before? Well, I had already been, you obviously, I had already known, I already know Spanish, but being in there, it's like, became fluent. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

But thank God you could speak it. I got arrested in Mexico. I'd be fucked. Yeah, so when I first got there, when I went to court the first time, one of the guards recognized me. And he's like, you know, I'm in handcuffs and shit. And he's like, yo, can I get a picture? I'm like, what?

What? So I'm right there taking pictures with the dogs, bro. That has been so surreal. Yeah, dude. Oh, my God, you're fucking top UFC contender in cuffs in jail. the fucking guard want to take a picture with you. While I'm in handcuffs

and the other inmates were like looking around like what the fuck who is this guy you know? Because like the guard was like yo this is this is such and such you know so as we're getting transported

to the jail which was the worst I mean I've been in jail before I'm like from the age of 15 like 23 I was constantly in and out of jail you know I'm from L.A.

You know, I was, you know, gang member and, you know, living in the hood. And this time around was a whole different experience. One, I'm in a foreign country. And so I get there and they put us like in the processing area. And the processing area is like probably about this big and like 20 dudes in there, all sleeping on the floor. Two dudes per bunk, three, three, I don't know, three bunk, three levels of bunks. And I was there for like the first, like the first ten days.

Jesus Christ. And it was hell, bro. It was the worst. Like I had, I don't know what kind of bugs there was in there, but they were like biting up my whole body. I had like, like, just, just bite. I don't know what it was, dude. It was like, I don't remember. Bed bugs, probably, something like that.

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It's like, I'm going to try to get you out of here, you know. And over there, the guards had tried to charge me seven grand, bro, to get me out of that cell and to move me into like a better, a better place. Because over there, if you got some money, you'll be all right, you know. And so right before that happened, the dude. that was like yo I'm gonna come back for you both don't you worry about it so how's this work does the guard come up to you and go hey I can get you in a cell put it across you 7000 yeah they come up to you and tell you that yeah so the dude that that was that was that I had got to the the prison with he comes back down and he's like hey he's like hey he's like hey

the guards came they pulled me out and they put me they put me they bring me to a whole different like section of of of the prison third the third floor in the second building and I go up there and I'm escorted by the guards and there's like a curtain it's like a curtain covering like the tier and I'm like what the fuck is going on like why is there a curtain and I get in there and they pull me to this dude and this dude's like oh you're you're a UFC fighter you know it turns out dude's like head of the cartel you know like a cartel leader and he's like he's like oh he's like I want to just show you around a little bit let you know how how we're running things over here you know kind of

just gave me the rundown and uh this dude had it made you know i get there and there's tvs in the fucking cell dude has a playstation he has like like a whole bunch of just all the amenities you can think of you know um he's like yeah he's like showing me around and shit kind of kind of showing me off and like hey there guys look look this guy look this guy you know he's a ufc fighter you know and i'm like all right you know what's going on here you know and You know, because it's jail, dog. I'm like, if anything happens, I'm fucking use all my experience to survive this motherfucker. Right, right.

And so he's like, just pretty much give me the rundown. He's like, yo, he's like, I run in here. This is like pretty much, you know, our, our, this is our home, you know. So that dude was facing some charges. He got released. And he was facing some charges. of him and his like 13 dudes. He got arrested with his whole crew.

Him and 13 dudes were all in that tier. So he had all his whole squad with them. And they had got arrested for dressing up as, like, government officials or like military dudes. And they would go like raid dope houses and take their drugs, whatever. So they had got all arrested for that. And they were facing some serious time. and I'm over here like too I just got a recipe a fucking ounce of weed

bro this is crazy he's like oh no you'll be out soon or you worry about it but if you want we could get you we can get you like accommodated and you could come up here with us you know you'd be my cellmate or whatever you could be wherever you want and I'm like all right he's like yeah but

it's going to cost you a little bit of money I was like oh yeah how much is like 3,000 and I looked at the guard the guard that was trying to charge me seven I was like he said seven he's like nah la la la he's trying to get more extra money out of you like but you do got to like pay to get up here and like kind of like pay rent a little bit you know to the guards so I'm like all right yeah yeah so I'm like all right cool so immediately I was like yeah let's do it so they keep like this brand new

like Nike track suit oh shit yeah and I'm like all right he's like we'll come we'll come up here tomorrow so I get there um I get there and then he's like yeah He'd just be my cellmate. So I pretty much ended up being like this guy's like, like, I ended up getting the feeling like I was like his protection kind of like or like, you know, like when we would go to yard, I just be like, he'd like, hey, walk with me. Like, and I would kind of like just, I got the impression like, like, all right, I'm his cellmate, you know, like I got this guy's back, you know, he got my bad guy, I got his.

And I really trusted him, you know, and that's one hard thing to do in. jail but like you catch vibes off people real easy you know and and and yeah dude it was just a crazy ass experience dude I ended up um we ended up working out with the with the working it out with the with the guards to to get me some fucking boxing gloves dude I ended getting some boxing gloves in there some some myths and it just so happened that the dude that I was cellmates with He had a little bit of boxing experience. So he had been a boxer before. So I was like, oh, perfect, you know.

And he actually knew how to hold pads and stuff. So I ended up spending this whole time. Please tell me you didn't spar him. No. No. No. No. That's how it goes south.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you're smart. You know what I'm saying? As you said boxing gloves, I'm like, oh, please tell me this doesn't end the way I think it ends. No, no, yeah, we ended up actually being really cool. And yeah, dude, I ended up pretty much spending this whole time, like, in a boxing fight camp, you know? Oh, wow.

Yeah, I remember I even made, like, a makeshift double-end bag. What I did was, like, I got balled up, like, a bunch of plastic bags, like, really, like, made it real tight and, like, so it's, like, hard. Do it in a sock. I was able to buy from the guards like a bungee cord yeah bungee cord and then set that up oh nice yeah and I made a heavy bag because they had like these big gallons of water and and I got the gallon of water and I wrapped it with like the mat from the from the bed so I was like and I just threw it in a bag and we had like a pull-a-bar in our in our cell and I made a I made a heavy bag out of that And then whenever we go to yard, I would just spend the whole time running that yard.

And I was just trying to do everything I could do to try and stay in shape, man. And it was just time went on, the time went on, the time went on, the time went on. What kind of food did they get you in his cell? It was all junk food, dude. Still? Yeah. Yeah. It was all junk food, like chips, noodles.

Damn. Soda, you know, water, condiments. So no protein? None, none, none. none whatsoever and I didn't think about that part you know because I was working out like crazy and I was getting shredded but as time went on my like like when I got out I was skinny as hell bro I was skinny as hell and and the only source of protein would probably be soy Jesus Christ yeah so yeah so they'll give like couldn't you bribe someone to bring in some fucking meat if you're the cartel

yeah yeah yeah well that's the thing like it was crazy like so towards the end towards the end towards like the final end of it, I guess the guards started cracking down on like a lot of the stuff that was going on. So we started to lose a lot of those amenities that we were getting in the beginning. And I was just, when I got out, I was just malnourished as hell, bro.

I saw you a picture later like of what I looked like when I got out, a completely different person. How much weight did you lose? I didn't really lose. that much weight, but it was just like more my muscles were just... Were you thinking about going to 55? We were like, damn, I might be able to make 55.

I've made $1.55.155. One time in my career. You're a big dude. You made 55? That must have been hell. Yeah, it was my, it was the worst fight camp ever. It was all based on just losing the weight. Losing the weight. That's hell. And then I was just so, I remember after that I made 155, I didn't even want to go to the gym for like a month, bro. I was like, dude, I need to, this, this, like, my body was just done, bro. Yeah, you're killing your body. Yeah.

What is this? Oh, yeah, that's some of the workouts I was doing while I was in prison. But no protein, unfortunately. Yeah, but no protein. So I was getting pretty shredded, like, when, and that, like, period in time, that was when we had, like, a lot of, like, we had food and everything was cool. And if you notice, oh, look at that, the double end back. That's nice, dude.

Yeah, dude. And you can see the TV in the back with the PlayStation, but, I mean, it wasn't. Dude, you're looking good. Yeah. Tighten those hands up. Nice, I bet. Yeah, man. It was just like a whole experience.

It was crazy because this guy, he'll be like, you know, the guards will come in and be like, hey, leave my door open, yeah? And the guards will actually leave this door open. So we were able to, like, walk around the tier and go talk to other people. Like me, I kept to myself a lot. Like, I've been in jail like a ton of times before. And I learned, I learned easily that, you know, you'll go like a long, you'll get by if you just mind your own business and not get involved in shit and not get involved with things. So I'm like, I would just stick to myself, you know, and just, you know, just get my workout on and avoid trouble. Avoid trouble, you know.

But it was crazy to see firsthand how the cartel operates. And it's crazy, man. They got their hands in everything over there. Of course. Everything. You know, there was 37 assassinations in Mexico last election. 37. Yeah.

Different political people. And I was talking to Ed Calderon. Do you know who he is? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's Ed Manifesto on Instagram. He used to work for the Mexican government. and then he became an American citizen and he was involved with prosecuting the cartel

going after them and stuff like that. And he was essentially saying that like the entire judicial system, all the mayors, everyone, if they get in, they're cartel members. Like no one gets in. No one is a mayor unless they're in the cartel. And when they're getting assassinated,

it's cartel assassinations. It's one cartel, you know, wants their guy in. And another cartel wants their guy in, and they just shoot the other dude. Yeah. 37. Imagine that was in America? 30, the last, like the midterms.

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he's like he's like yeah man I've killed like 30 cops in in my whole experience and he was in there for and they were just like telling me about all these things I'm like dude like everybody is involved in this shit it's crazy you know

and and over here like if you kill a fucking cop they're like they're coming after you but over there you know I guess it's just another thing killing killing over there's lower tier than the car

That's what it is. Yeah. The cartel have more money, more power, more influence. Yeah. And it's crazy how like murders just, they're not even that big of a deal over there. You know, while I was in there, I, I, I, I, I was reading or I saw that Mexico has the Guinness World Record for missing people, missing persons. Holy shit, dude.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. There's so many, like, it was so many hit men in there. It was crazy. But, you know, I didn't have to, you know, I didn't have. I didn't have I didn't get no shit from nobody you know everybody was like cool as hell well you're in easy to get along with dude yeah yeah luckily yeah didn't anybody ask you to train

him actually dude there's some dogs in there man I bet there's just one guy in particular I'm like dude you gotta fucking start fighting you like and he's like he's he was one of one of the military dudes and he's just a little fucking machine dude and in the time that I was there he got he got really good really quick you know and I'm like dude you got to like go to the gym down in tj uh that interim gym i have i had mentioned like yo even when i got when i when i got released um that man we we did a whole lot things to try to get me out man um there's a ton of fighters even try to pull some strings from me like yaya rogiguez you know uh brandy moreno he's from tj and and and nobody nobody could help me out man everybody

They tried to pull strings for me. Nobody came up with a number? Yeah. Eventually. What was, how was the number? Can you tell? I don't want you to get in trouble. Nah.

No, don't get in trouble. Yeah, but it was- Talk to me later. It was hefty. It was, it was not cheap. I bet. It was not cheap at all. I bet.

Everybody wants to get paid. Yeah, dude. Yeah, it was crazy, crazy experience, dude. And to get out. out of jail, you know, and then now I have this fight, I'm headlining, headlining UFC Serbia, first time in Serbia, fighting neurosmetic. When is that fight?

August 1st. Nice. Yeah, to get out of, to go through all that and then to have this opportunity, it's just crazy. And to be here, to be here is just crazy, man, because I didn't think I was going to get, I wasn't sure if I was going to get out, man. For good reason. A lot of people don't.

Yeah. You know, the United States prison system is fucked too, but nothing like Mexico's. Everybody that I've talked to that has any experience in Mexican jail. And I'm like, dude, it's not good. Yeah, no, man. It was crazy, bro. I just can't believe the cartel can't sneak meat in. We did sometimes.

Yeah, sometimes? Yeah, we did some. We had, they would bring us groceries, bro. Oh, really? Yeah. Because that's the first thing that I would want, man I would feel like, look, what do we got to do these guards? What kind of car do you drive, dog?

Let's upgrade that motherfucker. We got to do something. I can't be eating noodles. Yeah, man. Especially as hard as you work out. Yeah, I was working out like two, three, three hard workouts a day. You know, I'll do. So I'm kind of programmed, like, to just work out.

You know, I think from my prior. jail experiences before the only positive thing that I think that helped me and that whole everything that I've been through is like when you're in jail like I personally I'm like I would

I would think like dude you you got to be strong you got to be able to defend yourself you're like that's my whole reason for staying in shape you know when I started doing MMA it was just to be able to defend myself you know in situations

like if I ever did go to jail, you know, and the only thing that I, positive that I took from that is like when I got, when I, when I'll get released from prison prior, I just want to work out. I'm already programmed to, to just work out all day, you know, so once I found MMA, I was like, oh, this is perfect, you know, and, and how old be you when you first start training? 25. Wow. Yeah.

That's late? Yeah, dude. Turn it to a UFC contender. That's very impressive. Not a lot of guys started late. Did you have any sports experience before that? None, bro. Nothing.

That's crazy. None. I had been in no bullshit, though. I had been in probably around 200 street fights already, including all my jail experience. You know, when I was in juvenile hall, I was a straight knucklehead, bro. I was fighting like every other. other day. And it was just, it became just fun, just fun. Like if, like, you were like a, like a tough looking dude, it was like, hey, what's up, man, I want to scrap or what, bro? Like,

you know, I just, he's like, why? I'm like, because you're big, bro. I just want to fight you. Yeah, and, and with no training? You had no training at all? No, no training, man, just, just, just, just, just want to, just want to learn how to fight. Just want to be tough. By fighting. Yeah, yeah. So it's a crazy way to learn. Yeah, dude. Just and like dude you can't I mean like imagine getting a fight with your cellmate I got some crazy shit that's crazy shit yeah you gotta sleep together sleep at one eye open bro like yeah yeah and um yeah so that's that's the only experience I had prior to to to start in MMA and then I remember I stopped going to jail when I was like 23

when I stopped going to jail I started having kids and I'm like all right that I got to stop gang banging because I used to think going to jail was cool. I used to think it was cool because you get out and you just have like a little more respect. Like I thought it was cool. I thought like, oh, going to jail makes you a badass, you know. But once I started having kids, I realized like, all right, I got to take care of. I got human beings. I got to fucking I got to take care of and raise, you know.

So I started looking for every, any possible. way to try to live a decent life. And I've tried everything, man. I've had every job we could think of. But I've even had good jobs before, and I've lost them, you know, by just being on knucklehead and going back to jail. And I remember I got out of prison one time, and my cousin hits me up, and he's like, yo, come on my house, bro.

We're going to watch some fights and barbecue and stuff. I was like, all right, yeah, dope. I was like, who's fighting? He's like, some dude rampage. I'm like, who the fuck's Rampage? So I get there, and that's when Forrest Griffin had fought, Rampage won the light heavyweight title. And I'm like, yo, this is amazing, bro. And then I fell in love with Chuck Liddell.

And I'm like, dude, he's just like me, bro. He's like, knock him dudes out. You know? And I just obsessed with it. I just obsessed with it. So that was your first exposure to MMA? I had seen it before. like when it was Tank Abbott.

Oh, early days? Yeah, in the early days, but it never caught my attention. Like, because I had always been a boxing fan. I'm a huge boxing fan. And I grew up watching boxing, like, majority of my family functions growing up. They were all boxing events like Oscar de La Jolla, Mike Tyson, Mani Pachia, Flour Mayweather. And I was just, I loved boxing, you know.

And I remember, I mean, I did. have a little bit of experience before going into MMA because when I lived in the hood, I would always have boxing gloves and I would always make my homies fight each other. Like when we're all hanging like, hey, you go with him, you go with him. Because like, you know, we're all boys and I want them to like, I always wanted them to, to, like, hey, in case anything happens, the case we're all out and we get in a rumble with somebody or anything like that, like I try to make my homies more tougher, you know, because like, hey, you guys got to have my back, I got yours. And that's just that's just something we just did you know or like well we'll just go body shots body punches

you know right and just fight each other so that's kind of my background bro to be honest with you and and yeah man i just i just i just i just carried that into into the gym when i first went i remember what was the first gym you went to it's called it was called tap out in downtown l. okay at the time i think that's um i was trained with eddie bravo and and and he had more moved in 10th last so that's when I first when I first started I wanted to box and I remember the tap out Jim very well yeah yeah it was great Jim yeah and I remember when I first started going there I was working construction I was I was working on a on a high-rise in downtown LA and and I would um pass by every day I'm like man I want to go in there you know

but I never like would go in there I'll just pass by and I'll get home and I talk to my bed I'm out like, man, there's this gym called Tap, but I really want to go, you know? She's like, oh, yeah, but I was talking about all the time, but I never had like, I don't know, you know, it's kind of nervous, it's kind of nervous walking into a gym for the first time and, you don't know, like, what to expect, but I was just a fan.

And so I walked, actually, the way I got started was it was our anniversary, and as a gift, she gave me a gym membership. And then I went to the gym and the coaches were like, yo, dude, like, who is this guy, you know? But when I first went in there, I was like so raw and just so like street fighting experience. But I had power. I had some power. And, you know, I just fell in love with it.

And the coaches were like, even the days I wouldn't show up because in the beginning of it, I was still like, still had that knucklehead mentality. I'll still be out partying with my friends or not. show up to the gym and coaches will actually call me like yo where are you at you should need to be in the gym you need to be training so I guess what what helped me in the beginning was my actually my coach is like really noticing that I had like a talent you know I had I had potential and I just obsessed with them man and fell in love with the whole training experience and and I remember my first time trying jujitsu it was a skinny fucking skinny dorky looking dudes like hey you need to you need to come train

jujitsu man come train jutsu i was like nah because i remember right before i watched it and i was like oh man wrestling is gay dude dude wrestling is gay nobody trying to watch that you know and then obviously like you go through that experience i'm like all right so the skinny dude's like come man just try it out i bet you can't you know i bet you i bet you i could make you tap or whatever like no, no, he went and strangled me. You know, I'm like, oh, hell, no, I hate losing, bro. So I was like, and there's two different kinds of people.

There's people that will get their ass whoop and just like, nah, it's same for me. Or they get your ass with me. You're like, oh, I never want that to happen again. You know, so I would show up every day, determine, like, one day I'm going to win. One day I'm going to get him. One day I'm going to get them.

And that honestly kept me, kept me in the game, you know. It's amazing how little tiny dudes can fuck you up. Dude, that's the last thing I expected. I was like, what? Jiu-jitsu is the only thing that like, you know, in martial arts movies, there was always this myth that the little guy can fuck up all the bigger guys. But with striking, that's hard. Power is real, size is real, mass is real.

There's just too, you know, too many variables. If a guy knows how to throw a good one, two, you might be fucked. He hits you in the clinch. You can't get away from his clinch. He's too strong. He clubs you. You're fucked. Yeah.

But Jiu-Jitsu, man, there's not. no lucky punches in jujitsu and that's what's crazy when a little guy just annihilates you it's so humbling my first experience uh was a dude who was a purple belt i was a white belt and uh he was my size i was like this dude isn't that a bigger dude this is gonna be you know competitive not he just raped me just did whatever the fuck he wanted to do to me arm barbed me triangle me and i remember leaving going i am so delusional i had this idea in my head you know that i knew how to fight And then until I started doing jiu-jitsu, I was like, I don't know anything. I'm helpless, like completely helpless.

Yeah. But, you know, like you, the smart thing to do, like what you did is just go, I want to learn that. Yeah. And you having the courage to do that, you know, especially as a guy who didn't have any martial arts experience at all, just like throw yourself into it. It's very difficult to do, man, and especially at 25. Yeah. Because by 25, like John Jones had already been a UFC champion. and defend it multiple times.

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You know, like dudes have been in the gym since there were kids doing karate and boxing. You know, there is a thing, though, about having a lot of street fights there's a mental edge to being in a lot of conflict and a lot of combat. One thing I've always noticed about you when you fight, you're very calm. Like when you get in there, you're very relaxed. Yeah. And it's like life experience. Yeah.

That's a factor. Yeah, I just feel like in an MMA fight, it's a safe environment. Like, believe it or not, to me, it's safe. Right. You know, because I've been in, I've been in, because if anything goes wrong, the rest right there. Like, all right, there, that's it. It's done, you know? It's a fair fight.

You know, I've been in situations where I don't know if I'm going to live. Right. You know, if I don't survive this, I might die. Yeah. You know, and I think that I carry that a lot, you know, while I fight, and that's why I look so calm because I've been, I'm calm and hectic, like situations like that. Yeah, it's not the worst thing you've experienced. That's, for a lot of fighters, it's the most dangerous thing they've ever experienced.

Yeah. And they step into that octagon. close that door and they're looking across this octagon and another train killer like oh boy this is the scariest thing that's ever happened to them yeah so this is a mental benefit that you have for having all those street fights and

even though you didn't start until late man the mental game might be most of the fighting you know yeah man when I step in there I'm just I'm just happy to be there you know like I I'm lucky to be out here I'm lucky to be having my freedom I'm lucky to be alive

you know so when I'm when I walking out to a fight like I just feel I just feel happy dude I'm just I'm just I'm just happy happiness like you know because while I'm backstage I'm like thinking how did I get here dude you know like I'm just how the fuck did I do this how did I make it this far you know and you know like a situation like like this like where I'm fresh out of fresh out of jail you know and and I'm like dude like I main event in Serbia against a guy from Serbia is crazy, bro. But you know what?

Just live that shit, man. I told myself like, dude, this is your opportunity to tell, like, to, like, this shit's a movie, bro. Like, my life is crazy. It is a movie if you think about it. I mean, very few people live that life. In and out of jail many times, locked up in Mexico for eight months, never known if you're going to get out. Next thing you know, you're head.

line at a UFC card. Yeah, man. Sitting here. Main event. Yeah, sitting here on the Joe Rogan experience. You know, telling my story is just, you know. Where's Eurus Medich ranked? Is he above you or both?

He's number 13. What are you at? 15. Yeah, so both of you guys, top contenders. I'm surprised throughout that whole process. They kept me in the rankings. Well, good respect to them, you know. Also, they probably realized you were probably working out in jail.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. But, I mean, it's not, you shouldn't be punished for something like that. You get stuck in a crazy situation. Yeah, man. Especially if you're coming from California where weed's legal. Everybody gets confused.

You know, you have that weed in California. Everybody is everywhere. It's totally legal. That's why it didn't even cross my mind. It didn't even cross my mind. I know. Hey, we didn't get in trouble for this. That's crazy.

Yeah. I would have never known those laws because I heard that it was decriminalized. I thought, oh, they don't, they got other. this shit to worry about. You know, they got cartel problems and fentanyl problems. They don't give a fuck if you're bringing in weed. Yeah.

Well, now I have a part of the process of me getting out. It's like I have to get, like now I have dual citizenship in Mexico. Now you do? Yeah. Because of getting out? No, no. My lawyers,

it was a part of me getting out. So like when you pulled up the, um, the, the, uh, decriminalized the laws for citizens the laws for citizens so that that was a process of oh so you became a citizen so the law was less for you yeah that's hilarious so it was a

ton of stuff that we had to do bro that is a crazy loophole yeah yeah so now before asking everybody should become a citizen of Mexico yeah man I ain't ever going back to Mexico I don't going back for a while bro I cannot see myself I don't even want to go back so especially since I released the footage of me working out in prison and stuff. Like, I don't ever want to go to Mexico, and for any reason, they're like, get his ass, you know, bring it back over. Yeah, and they probably would, too.

Yeah. At the very least, try to get more money out of you. Definitely. Especially after your headlined a UFC card. Yeah, and on top of that, like, like, releasing that footage was, like, definitely, like, a no-no. But since... How did you... Did they all have cell phones inside?

Yeah, so we had cell phones. Yeah. So were you texting your friends? You could text your lawyer, all that shit? Yeah. Did you worry that your text would be intercepted? No, no. Not at all.

Because I would text everybody or call everybody on WhatsApp, and I guess... Yeah, it's encrypted. Yeah, it's encrypted. And so when you're doing all this and filming all this, you just saved the footage, and then when you got out... No, I would send it. I would send it to, like, my friends. friends. So I sent it to one of my buddies and I was like, yo, save all this

stuff. Because when I get out, this is going to be it's going to be big, bro. You know? Well, I'm glad they didn't release it before you got out. Yeah. Yeah. You really trust your friends because that could have been fucked. Yeah, man. And the whole time, like, knowing you were

I was at, knowing you where I was going on and there was a couple rumors going around that I was backpacking in Peru. Another one was was one of my buddies like it's crazy how the internet believes anything bro like there's people thought I was building

wells in Rwanda like one of my buddies said that he's like oh he's building wells in Rwanda doing God's work and like people ran with that like hey actually people when I got released right away they were like oh Kevin Holland bailed him out

Kevin Holland bailed him out to get a rematch and people believe that That's hilarious. That's so funny. It must have been so weird. So when you're inside, did they have the internet? Could they watch fights? Yeah, yeah.

Actually, so they ended up putting like these self-like scramblers, like these towers that like mess up the signal. And we ended up getting, what's that, that Tesla thing, Starlink? We ended up getting Starlink. We ended up getting Starlink. You got Starlink in a Tijuana jail. Yeah. Oh my God, that's insane.

Yeah, we ended up getting Starlink and have Wi-Fi for a little while. And then I remember we ended up losing all that stuff because like every once in a while, they'd be like, hey, the guards will come. Like, hey, they're going to come to inspections. And, you know, so they would like hide everything. And I remember just one time they hit everything and they're like, oh, we're not going to give back to you guys. So we ended up, like, I'd say like by the fifth month, that's when like they really started cracking down and stopped bringing us like the extra food. And the food that, like the prison food in there, dude, is, it's the worst. It's terrible, terrible.

Tortillas, like with every meal, like five tortillas, rice or beans and like some kind of like soup. But the soup is pretty much, there's no. eating it it's it's a majority of it's like potatoes and carrots you know like so your only protein you're getting from beans yeah wow and it was just horrible dirty unsanitary what's the first thing you ate when you got out first thing I ate when I got out was um a double Western bacon cheeseburger from Carl's junior that can you been the best ever yeah man and And I couldn't even finish it because at the time, like, my stomach was so, like, I got, like, I got full as hell, man. Like, I was crazy.

And, man, I was so skinny when I got out, bro. It was crazy. So, like, this whole time, I just been, like, trying to just bulk back up, you know? So what did you wet? Did you wear yourself when you got out? When I weighed, I weighed myself when I got out. And I normally walk around around 200. and I was like around 180 you know but I looked horrible bro like I looked like I just cut weight

I looked like I was like I'm sure yeah it was it was it was like I was horrible but it was like it was like I was shredded or nothing I just had no muscle definition and it was just it was bad bro and I remember um when I first got out man I was like thinking like all right I tried like when I got out I hit the like I got out ready to just like all right I'm getting my life back I'm gonna train my ass off, bro. I was so out of shape. I was so out of shape, bro. And I was, like, really discouraged at the time, you know?

I was like, dude, I don't know. I think my fucking career is over, dude. I don't know how am I going to come back from this, you know? I was so out of shape. That's crazy because you were working out so much in jail. Yeah, but it was just because of the lack of food. Nutrition. Yeah, nutrition.

I was like so malnourished. Your body was just destroyed. Yeah, it was horrible. horrible bro and I almost thought like dude I can't do this shit anymore dude like I'm I'm not gonna I think my career might be over you know and I'll just in my head about it for a little bit and then and then you know like I was like nah you know I'm a fucking soldier dude I could bounce back from this and and you know I just I just really believed that through hard work you know I'll get back to to my old self and now I feel great dude how long did it take before you start feeling normal

but up I'm barely starting to feel like 100% now now yeah and when did you get out um it's been almost two months wow that's not a lot of time yeah and when is this uh the fight is August 1st yeah it's another not two months yeah that's good yeah and I feel I feel good now that's crazy though It takes you two months and then now you're back. You look normal, like physically. Yeah. You look healthy. So it took you that time to just put the weight back on and get your muscle tone back and all that shit.

That's a good thing, though, that you were always in shape. So you bounce back quicker. You have muscle memory. Yeah. And actually, I've honestly been enjoying this whole process of, of, like, when I first got out, I could only run like a mile and I was dying, bro. And through each run, I could see. my progress I'm like okay I'm getting better okay I'm getting better and I'm like I'm in

love with it right now I'm in love with like getting better and better and better 1% every single day you know I truly believe believed that through the work and to trust the work that I have ahead of me and I honestly think that by the time the fight gets here I'm gonna be in perfect peak shape that's awesome yeah what a crazy comeback story yeah you know yeah and and it's it's it's It's really just like a really deep personal one for me because from what, when I first got out to now, it's just like, it's crazy.

It's crazy how the body can bounce back and just get back into shape, you know? Well, it's crazy to the mind, too. I mean, you must be so thankful. Just every time you're training, yeah, you might be tired, but man, you must be so thankful that you're out and free and then you're working towards something big.

You know, you've got a big fight coming up and what a blessing. Yeah, man. And I'm just embracing the whole process, you know, and I'm just, you know, I'm all for it. I'm all in. Actually, going to jail and going through all that actually made me appreciate and value everything that I have going on right now. So I'm just, like, so grateful and so thankful that I even have this opportunity. And just signed a new contract with the UFC. six more fights.

Nice. And now I'm, main event, it's just crazy, dude. If you go on to win the title for me, how crazy would that pay?

Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That would be crazy. And, you know, you've beat Medich, you're in the top 13, you're close to the top 10, a few fights later.

Anything can happen in this sport. Yeah, and I would even tell dudes like that, like realistically, bro, like I can, like, four or five fights, go, like four or five fights that could be fighting for the championship, you know?

Maybe even less. This sport all takes as a few spectacular results. A few spectacular results and people get behind you and the crowd gets behind you and the next thing you know. Yeah, I mean, if I go out there and smoke this guy and it's going to be so much even bigger just because of the whole experience that I went through and like, man, you got out of jail and just fucking knock this dude out and, you know, why not? Like, why not, bro? You know, why can't I be that guy? You hear stories all the time Of these incredible stories

The people that become champions from nothing And been through all kinds of stuff Like why not me, bro? Listen, you never fucking know You never fucking know That's the crazy thing about the sport Yeah, anything could happen, dude Yeah, I mean, you got Makachev

As the title holder Which is, you know, One of the baddest motherfuckers to ever do it That's part of the problem Yeah He's got the opposite life That's a guy that's been Disciplined and Training

His entire life. You know, never, never fucked around, no drugs, no drinking, no nothing, just discipline.

Yeah. It's tough sell. It's different, different levels, man. Yeah. There's different levels to it. How old do you know? 39.

Yeah. Yeah. So I got like a couple more years left, man. So that's why. It's crazy while they stole eight months of like very valuable time. Yeah. And that's one,

that's one thing. That's one. The number one thing that I was like, man, like, I'm running out of time, bro. You know, I don't got a lot of time left, you know, so getting out. And like I said, like, I'm just taking it a lot more serious, you know? I'm sure. Where are you training now? So right now I'm in Vegas, training over at the P.I.

Oh, that's great. At extreme culture. And right now, and freestyle M.A. while I'm in Vegas and while I'm in California I go to a classic classic fight team training over at

Tonori and Ten Planet you know so I'm just but right now I'm in Vegas right now it's so much so much easier LA's crazy dude I'm on the road when I'm in LA

it's just I'm on the road all fucking days LA traffic is just a nightmare so that's why like I'm in Vegas right now because everything's so close together and so convenient and and it's also so high level there's so much high level training in Vegas yeah and the PI is an amazing resource for fighters you know as far as nutrition

cutting weight mean they'll get your meals for you they get your supplements for you they make sure that everything is you know safe for sport approved so you don't have to worry about testing positive for anything like the PI is amazing yeah such an incredible resource yeah right now it's a little bit crazy because they're letting like the slap fight guys go there and the Zufo boxing guys I think. Yeah? So yeah those guys

are using the slap fight guys train? I don't know how they trade like how do you how do you train for that bro you know? They do neck workouts I don't know. I guess that's it. Yeah right? Swinging things with your arms yeah I guess like cable machines

like you know what I'm saying like get a Cable should have your wrist to do this a bunch of times. Yeah. So they have at the P.I. They have like this thing that gauges your power and your strike. And they use that all the time. The Power Slap guys do? Oh, that's so silly.

Yeah. And then also the Zufo boxing guys are there too. So it's a little bit hectic right now. It's like a lot going on. Yeah, I could imagine. Yeah. Power slap guys, that's a different thing. I've never been to one of those.

I hear you have to go to one to like enjoy it. You have to be on acid. Yeah. To me, it's like, I don't know, man. I feel like letting someone just swing on you. And the thing is like if you get the first swing, you have a giant advantage. Yeah. The first swing is a crazy advantage.

That's dangerous, bro. That's just getting, you know, just getting whacked. And some of these guys, they get knocked out, yeah. Oh, 100%. It's not less powerful than a punch. You know, this is the idea that you're slapping like this. That's not what they're hitting with the palm of the hand. Yeah.

Right on your fucking jaw. Yeah. It's super powerful. You can only take so many of those in your whole life. You know, and you're lining up for those. Yeah, and I mean, you can imagine, like, their nerve damage on your face, too. Well, I mean, look, I'm for whatever you want to do. You want to jump BMX bikes.

You want to ride bulls. You want a power slap. Have at it. This is America. Have a good time. Yeah, but it seems like at an MMA gym, it should be MMA fighters. I don't, I mean, the boxing is probably a good crossover. Like, you could probably get some good work with some of those guys.

Yeah. You know, and then also seeing high-level boxer train is good. It's great for your technique. It's great for just raising the level up in the gym. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's really dope. I love the PI, man. And Vegas in general, like, there's so many killers out there, you know.

It's one of the best places. in the world for MMA training. You got Extreme Couture. Think of how many killers are training out of there. You know, you got, there's so many, you got syndicate. There's so many places, man. Yeah. It's incredible.

So much Jiu-Jitsu. Robert Drysdale's there. There's so many guys that are there. Tenth Planet there. There's so much Jiu-Jitsu there. There's so much M.A. there. I mean, if you're a fighter, it's like, one of the best places to live. Yeah, I remember when I first, when I first went out there,

I was in about 2020. I was on Cowboys camp. And he went out there, and that's when I saw first hand, all the amenities from the PI and, like, all the, the whole Vegas experience. And so I decided to move out there. So I lived out there for like two years. And I've just been going back and forth ever since.

It's worth living there just for the PI. Yeah. You know, and then there's so much moitai there. There's so much everything. There's so much great training there. Yeah, yeah. There's a ton of, there's a ton of gyms like you said, man. Yeah, there might not be another city in the country that's like Vegas in that regard.

Yeah. Think about boxing. You've got Floyd Mayweather's gyms there, which is crazy, right? There's a bunch of other gyms there. You got high-level boxers there. You got high-level moiety guys there. You know, one-kick Nick has his place there. There's so much high-level training in Vegas.

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Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com slash j-R-E. That's better-h-E-L-P-com slash J-R-E. Yeah, sometimes I even go to. the Andrew Kuanis gym Oh yeah Yeah Anthony and Chiti They have their own gym Yeah

Okay Yeah they were with one kick nick right Yeah Yeah Fucking crazy town Yeah man Training and again like I can't say enough Like every time

I've been to the PI bunch times But when I first went there Before they were really open When they were really getting rolling I was like this is incredible Like if you're a fighter You have a place that has all the recovery stuff All the high end

Top notch recovery stuff recovery stuff, cold plunge, saunas, all the, all the, everything, like all physical therapy, supplements. They, when I found out, they make food for you, I was like, this is crazy. Yeah, I love that part. I love, I'm always, I'm always there, you know, you could go there, order whatever you want, you know, and just like, sure, steak and rice, you know. Yeah, well, they just want you to be healthy, which is, makes sense.

It's so smart that they did that. When they did that, I was like, what are they doing, dumping all this money in that? Who's going to go there? And then when I went there, I was like, oh, I get it. They went all out. They went all out. And it's just, if you want your fighters to be at the very best to compete in the UFC, what better way than provide the best world-class facility on Earth?

And then to put it right there in Vegas. And now they have a bunch of them, right? They have one in Mexico. They have one in, I think they have one in Singapore. Yeah. They have a bunch of them. It's awesome. So smart.

Such a smart move to do. You know what would have been crazy? if you were on the White House card. Dude, that's going to be major, dude. That's crazy. It's going to be major. I wish it was inside, but it is going to be crazy. It's so funny watching people lose their mind over it, you know, in all sorts of different ways.

Lose their mind over it because they hate the political situation in this country, lose their mind over it because they feel like it's a waste of money, why they're spending so much money. This country's in debt. We've got problems. Why are we having a fight? And then other people are like, fuck yeah. You know, I mean, there's no more American thing than having a UFC fight on the White House lawn. It's so America. It's so Trump.

It's so crazy. You know what I mean? A UFC fight on the White House lawn is bananas. Yeah, man. Even the fight card is amazing as well. Fight card's incredible. The only thing that bothers me is that it's outside. Yeah.

These guys are, they're fighting for world titles. I mean, Ilya might be, is not just one of the best. right now, he might be one of the best that ever did it. It's very possible that he goes down in history as the all-timer. I mean, he's so good. And for him to have to defend his title, the world title outside with bugs and humidity and heat. Yeah, you've got to take into account the weather.

It's a whole different environment. It could rain. It could thunderstorm. Who fucking knows? It's D.C. It's the East Coast in the middle of the summer. I mean, it's crazy to have a fight outside in June. in DC.

Yeah, I've fought outside before. It's definitely a different, different vibe, different energy. Where'd you fight outside? I fought outside for Combat de Americas. It was somewhere in Arizona, and it was a nighttime fight. That's Camel McLaren's organization, right? Yeah. Love that dude.

I've also fought in the summer, in the daytime, and I had a fair once. Oh, my God. Yeah. In California? In California. What was the temperature? It was hot as hell, dude. The mat was hot as hell.

It was like at a fair in the middle of the summer or summer. Oh, that sucks. The mat's hot. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, dude. Was it canvas or was it like Matt? I think it was Matt. Oh, Jesus.

Yeah, it wasn't canvas. So not just that, but it gets slippery as fuck too then. Yeah, dude. It was hot as hell, bro. Did you ever see King of the Cage wet and wild? You ever see that? No. King of the Cage put on a fight in the middle.

middle of a rainstorm and just let people fight. Just like, I think they just said, look, you know, if you want to fight, you get paid. This is it. It's going to rain out. And we're going to have to fight because it was outside. Yeah. So this is back when California did not have MMA. It was illegal, but it was legal on Indian reservations.

So we would go to these Indian reservations for King of the Cage. So back when Eddie, I think Eddie was the commentator at that event. I'm not sure. But he was one of the main commentators at King of the Cage. And my friend Bud, who's my neighbor back in California, I actually sold him my old house. Real good friend of mine. He was one of the owners of King of the Cage. And they were just putting on these events in fucking these Indian reservations when it was totally illegal in California.

So we would just drive to the Indian reservations and watch. And one of them, it poured. I mean, it was outside. The whole thing was outside. They just set up a cage outside. And it's fucking pouring, dude. And these guys are slipping all over the place. And it's crazy.

They're fighting with wrestling shoes on. And it was just, some of them did at least. And it's fucking ridiculous. Like there's no way you should fight like this. Yeah, my actually, actually my pro debut was for King of the Cage outside on Indian Reservation. What year was this? I want to say 20, 2017, maybe. So they were still doing them outside even then.

Yeah. Wow. At a Suboba Casino. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we would. Yeah.

See if you can find the King of the Cage footage for wet and wild. It was one of the craziest events I've ever seen in my life. I'm just imagine you're basically fighting on ice. You're slipping all over the place. Everybody's sliding. This is it. Look, they're trying to mop down the cage in between the fights. I mean, it's ridiculous.

Like, what are you going to do? You're not going to dry it out. I don't know why they were trying to do this. But they were trying to at least give them some sort of, like, not sopping wet environment. Dude, that must have been so hard to fight on. Oh, look, they're slipping. Oh, they're slipping all over the place. At least they had wrestling shoes on, because I don't remember what year this was.

The ref with the ponchos is kind of funny. I know, it's crazy. All the officials have ponchos. I mean, it's fucking pouring right now. I don't remember what year it was. It's, I think it said it right there, 2001, I think. Ah, okay, that makes sense. So that, I think that's illegal days.

I'm not 99% sure that's the illegal days. Of course it is, because they weren't shoes. But it was, the whole event was just, insane. And imagine like trying to get a submission on someone who's literally soaking wet. Yeah, I do. I mean, it's impossible. It's so crazy. But I mean, these dudes will remember this forever. This event, like, everybody was there. Look, you see the rake. Oh, it's pouring. I mean, why are they even, but why are they bothering, like sweeping the water off? You're not going to dry it out. And look at his feet, man. His feet are sliding all over the place with wrestling shoes on. It's crazy.

In a situation like that You're almost like better off Like immediately going to the ground But even then Like how are you going to even get a choke People are Everyone would slide out of everything It's like

Fighting someone who's oiled up Look at it's drying them off That's crazy Yeah Yeah but The White House one I just hope it doesn't rain I hope they figure out a way to kill the bugs too

I've been investigating online. There's a bunch of different machines that they sell for like outdoor events and these they kill every bug within like a mile radius. They set these things up and all the bugs just go to it and get zapped and at the end of it they dump it out. There's like a fucking like a big bag of bugs. So if they set a bunch of those up around the perimeter, maybe they can at least minimize the amount of bugs that are out there because you have, in the DC area you have a lot of gnats. Imagine fighting and you got a gnat in your eye. You're in the middle of moving around.

Something goes in your mouth. You know? Yeah, is there a lot of them out there? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's moist. That's the thing about D.C. It's humid.

It's a human environment, especially in the summer. And Jamie and I checked, was it 100 degrees there? Yeah, it's current. I mean, we're getting closer to the dates. The forecast is getting better. It's currently set to be a high of 85, low of 69. 69 is nice. No rain and, well, isolated thunderstorm.

the two days before. But that doesn't, I mean, I know what that means. That doesn't mean anything by the time it gets to June. Yeah. And is it June 11th? So it's on the 14th. 14th? 14th and 12th and 13th both have isolated thunderstorms.

12th and 13th and it's on the 14th. Oh, fuck. And the one on Friday it says considerable cloudiness and fog after midnight. I think the fights would be over by them probably. Well, the fights are Sunday. Right. No, I'm just saying like that means at night it's getting. Yeah.

Well, the thing is if it's, The lows 69, that's nice. So if it cools off by the time the main event starts, or the last few fights. But the first few guys that get after it, they're going to probably be fighting in the daytime. Yeah. You know, you never know. They might just spray some chemtrails and change the weather. You know?

Yeah, they might. You never know. Oh, if anybody's going to do it, it's Trump. Do you see the thing that he posted? He's got like this whole drone army on the roof of the... the ballroom now? Oh, no, I didn't do it. So, you know, they built...

They will. It's not done yet. Oh, it's not? No. Oh, well, he posted pictures. Are they AI? Yeah. Well, not.

I mean, it's just a rendering. Oh, that's all it is? Oh. How far along is the ballroom? I think they're pretty far. I'm going to show you the picture that they're posted, but it's not... It's like a rendering of what it will do. Oh, that's fake?

Yeah. Okay. Why would you tell people what you're going to do? Well, you're going to be able to see. that they can't hide it. That's not what I saw. I saw one that looked like it was during the daytime. Yeah, drones are... But obviously that's, yeah, that's what I saw. That's the one I saw. So that's what's gonna look like. Yeah, drones are crazy, man. Bro, drones with missiles and guns flying around on the top, all controlled by AI. Oh boy. What could go wrong? War is a whole other

thing these days. Yeah. Yeah, it's spooky. You ever seen some of that footage from Ukraine yeah drones is flying around bombing dudes just bombing dudes just dropping down on guys and exploding and there's fucking hundreds of those videos now you get it a one of those Instagram algorithms we watch a couple of them and then next thing you know they're getting recommended to you over and over yeah dude that's crazy um you know one day I'm talking talking about something with my buddy next thing you know it's all over my phone my feed. I know. Yeah, it's crazy. It's weird. We're just accepting the fact that our phones are listening to us all the time. Yeah. You know what I got trapped in recently? Algorithm of schizophrenic people.

What does that mean? Dude, it's all crazy people that like one guy is like, hi, I'm Joseph Wilson. I am the legitimate president of the United States due to constitutional like crazy stuff. Like crazy people. This one lady, this one lady, this one lady is crazy. She's like, I forget what famous actor she was saying, they're trying to kidnap me and put shit in my vagina. She's just completely insane. And every day, it's like some new accusation. Someone's after her. Someone's tapping their phone. Someone's communicating with her through her ceiling fan. Like, yeah. But I don't know how Instagram knows that these people are schizophrenic and keep sending me schizophrenic people over and over and over again. I know, right?

Well, you're, if you're watching them, you're all, it thinks you want to keep watching. I understand, but how does it know who's schizophrenic? It must, there's got to be, there's internal tags on every post. Right, but isn't that nuts? I don't know how it's, yeah, how schizo got in there. But it is, or whatever the word is it's using. Yeah, I don't know what the word is, but it knows these people are fucked up. So it's sending me all these crazy people, like, completely insane people.

One lady who thinks everybody's a man, she thinks Rosa Parks secretly a man, everyone's secretly a man. Everyone's secretly a man She's like pointing out like collarbones Look at them look at this is a man Kim Kardashian's a man Everybody's a man It's fucking nuts man And it's just schizophrenic people

And I'm like okay so Instagram must know These people are schizophrenic Because they're all like I'm telling you It's like three out of ten videos Instagram recommends me Are people that are completely crazy So it must know these people are crazy And it's just setting them my way

Yeah Same for me, dude. I was talking to my buddies, I don't know, something about like sardines or something. Next thing you know, I'm like, look at my phone. I'm like, dude, what the hell is all this shit about sardines? I know. Back to back.

It's crazy, bro. It's creepy how the ads target you. Yeah, and brainwashing me into buying sardine. Well, it's like, how much is it listening? Did you see that post, I'll send it to you, Jamie, that Kim.com posted about Palantir. Did you see that? It's from February where they got hacked, apparently. Maybe. Is that what it is?

Yeah, it's what it's set. I'm if we probably sell the same one. Yeah, I'm sure. It's very recently that I saw it. I didn't check the date on it, though. I could send it to you. Yeah, I got it. I think it's good.

Yeah. It's from February 16th. Yes, that's it. That's the one. It's not showing up right here, though. Want me sent you? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing I just had was like a Russian website.

Okay. Click this. No problem. Definitely. That's another one like Britney Griner. That poor lady. Oh, yeah. She did nine months.

They wanted to put her away forever. Yeah. They were trying to put her away. Exchange like some Russian arms dealer or something like that. The merchant of death. Guys responsible for thousands of people being dead. So this is from Kim.com. Palantir was allegedly hacked, rather.

An AI agent was used to gain super user access. And here's what the hackers allegedly found. Peter Thiel and Alice Carp commit mass surveillance of world leaders and titans of industry on a mass scale. Massive scale. They have thousands of hours of transcribed and searchable conversations of Donald Trump, J.D. Vance and Elon Musk. They have backdoored the devices, cars, and jets of world leaders and accumulated the biggest archive of blackmail material. Palantir is creating nuclear and bioweapon capabilities for Ukraine and is working closely with the CIA to defeat Russia. They believe they're one year away.

They plan to achieve this by keeping Russia busy with meaningless peace negotiations. Palantir is responsible of the majority of Palestinian deaths in Gaza. They've developed the AI targeting for Israel. Palantir is an arm of the CIA. And all data from international clients is copied into a seat. So the problem is this is like alleged. Is there a community notes on this at all? No.

Really? Just Kurt Metzker. He's the number one post When can we see these hacked materials, though? What are the hackers doing with it? If they aren't exposing the whole thing, then fuck them. Yeah, they only, he... How does he know, community knows on it?

He posts a lot of things that sometimes are true and sometimes are not true. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know his background? Do you know the story behind that guy? Me or? Yeah.

General, yeah. So his back... I first found out about him a long time ago. He's a very wealthy guy. He lives in New Zealand. and he ran a site. Was it a... It was like super upload or...

Yeah, like one of those uploads, mega upload. Yeah, I think that's what it was. And they targeted him because they said that people were uploading things that were copyrighted material and I think they were trying to... They were trying to get him out of the country.

Extradited on... I think they still wanted to come back. Yeah, fraud charges related... It's on the screen to a mega upload. He denies wrongdoing. Hughes U.S. authorities are pursuing a vendetta against him on behalf of politically influential Hollywood Studios. 2018 New Zealand Court of Appeal upheld the lower courts ruling.com appeal to the Supreme Court of New Zealand, which ruled in 2020, that dot com could be extradited to the United States, but that he could challenge the decisions through judicial review. His extradition order was eventually signed on August of 2024.

he's remained free in New Zealand while continuing to pursue judicial review of his extradition order. He launched another cloud storage service called Mega, although he severed all ties in 2013, severed all ties with the service in 2015. He also started and funded the Internet Party. The party contested in the 2014 New Zealand general election under an electoral alliance with the Mana movement and contested the 2007. 17 general election independently, but failed to win any seats at either election. He was a famous guy in the early days of the internet. Did you ever see those videos that he made, like these cartoons? Yeah, I'm trying to remember some things that I remember.

I don't, yeah. Yeah, there was like cartoons that he did where he was like killing dictators in the cartoons. What did he call? Internet Party, Moment of Truth, Extradition. See, if you can find. on Kim.com early animated videos. He's big on the Seth Rich conspiracy here. He should be.

The Seth Rich one is wild. The Seth Rich one is one of the ones where I just, I don't understand why anybody isn't think that that's crazy. This guy gets assassinated after he supposedly gave WikiLeaks all sorts of inside information on the Democratic Party about how they kept people out of the election, how they were running things, and then he winds up getting whacked. And they're like,

no, it was a robbery attempt at three in the morning. They left his watch, they left his wallet, they left everything, his phone, they just killed him. See if you can find his videos.

He has some crazy videos. I want to say these are from like the 90s, like late 90s or early 2000s. He was, I don't remember, I don't even know what he was doing, but he was very wealthy. He had this crazy house

and his hot wife and he would show videos. of it and shit and I think this guy's just been persecuted because of that sight that he had and he's fucked now They just keep going after him I don't know if he's right about this Palantir stuff so I probably shouldn't have been saying it, but But you do know that like in worst case scenario a gigantic corporation could have the power to surveil everyone all the time Everyone's online. Yeah, I mean they can they can see you now with Wi-Fi. They know where you are in a building at any given time with the Wi-Fi in the building.

Oh, that's crazy. Crazy. They use Wi-Fi, and they can get a literal image of you walking around your house. They know where you are in any given time because of the Wi-Fi. So if they tap into your Wi-Fi, they know where you are. They're there's, boom. There's targeted strike in the upper right bedroom. It's crazy.

It's really nuts, man. Because this is, this wasn't, here it is. This is from like, this is some old internet stuff. This is a flash video. Yeah. 90s flash video. Yeah, this is it. Give me some volume.

I'm surprised that even has sound. It's going to be a very crude sound. Yeah, this is what he did. I remember this. So this was the 90s. So this is the same guy. It's a very interesting guy. He's getting in a boat.

Yeah, it's called Kimball Special Agent. I mean, it was made in the 90s. This is 30 years ago. He's screwing around with internet graphics. He's so weird. Catches the helicopter. He lands on the ground. He's standing on top of Microsoft?

What does he doing? Oh, there's Bill Gates. Boy, people hated Bill Gates even back then. That's crazy. It's assassinating Bill Gates. What the? Fuck. It's so weird.

Oh, he didn't kill him. Just wrote Linux around him. So he got in trouble for these? Nah. No. No, not really. I mean, I think people just thought those were silly. He got in trouble for that mega upload site.

So the way it used to work is, you remember, do you remember Napster? Yeah. Right. So Napster worked where you could take songs, you could upload them, and anybody could download these songs. The way Mega Upload worked, and a lot of these upload sites is you could take a film. and you could turn it into a digital file and say you take like avatar turn into a digital file and upload it and people could then download it and watch it on their home Entertainment system through the internet just download the file

plug an HTML cord from a computer into the TV and boom you're watching movies Yeah, and you don't have to pay anything and the thing was it's like all this stuff was copyrighted material and I think his argument was like yeah, but I'm not uploading it. I'm just I'm hosting this service and they're like well this service is used to do illegal things so you're in trouble so it's like I don't know what the argument is there I don't know who's right do you understand it Jamie yeah you explained it but I mean it's a most people would go like copyright law American copyright law only matters in America I don't know if that's the argument he was making but that's true too right because he's in New Zealand and this house this site was hosted in Hong Kong

Mm. Yes, this is on January 20th, 2012, they seized more than $300 million, or Hong Kong money, it's $40 million in American money. Damn, son. He denied any wrongdoing. I wonder how he's earning money now. I wonder if they took all his money or... I mean, they did, they did, I just looked it up.

Mega is like a cloud service website now. I don't know if he owns it or runs it. He's trying to do cryptocurrency stuff. I'm sure he was big into Bitcoin when it started. He's probably doing okay. Yeah, I don't know what the story is, but I'm kind of rooting for him. He has a fun character online. Oh, he's very fun online.

I don't know if he's right about the Palantir stuff, but forget about Palantir. We know that what's happening now in terms of you talking into your phone about sardines and then your phone's showing you as. They're definitely listening to something. Grok said it's unverified. As of February, oh, so this was Grock commented on it. Kim.com's claims about a Palantir hack and related allegations remain unverified. Major outlets like Reuters, BBC, and New York Times show no coverage. Palantir's site has no statements.

Some sources echo the post, but no independent evidence confirms it. Right. But you've got to think if you know a dude who's deeply connected into the hacker world, it's that guy. Right? Yeah. I think he's the most public one. Yeah. He'd be the guy.

that would know some shit. I wouldn't be surprised. If it's not Palantir, and I'm not accusing Palantir of anything, but there's got to be at least one point in time, there's going to be a corporation that has the power to do those things, and that's what's going on

with all this surveillance shit that people are missing. I'm sure there already is, you know, they're already doing that, you know? Yeah. I mean... 100%.

If I was an evil person running some... Hackers? corporation. I would do it. Especially if I thought it was right. Yeah. I'm doing the right thing. I can imagine like China probably has. Of course. You know.

A hundred percent. Also, I forgot what I was reading that someone got arrested. I think like some government official or something got arrested and admitted to being a spy. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. Well, there was a mayor in California. Oh, yeah. In Arcadia, California, there was a spy for China. She was the fucking mayor. The mayor of a city was working for China.

Yeah, and admitted it. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, China's playing a long game. They infiltrate universities. They give money to universities. They fund programs. They give money to research labs.

They sell cell phone towers at a discounted rate to the military. And these dumb motherfuckers put them around where their military bases are. Yeah. I've had guys that are, you know, CIA guys on the podcast tell me about that, how dangerous it is. That they've bought farmland all around these military bases. Yeah. Yeah. What's up?

Did you say something? I thought you said something. Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy that they are even allowed to do that. Like, you imagine you're in conflict with another country and they buy land right next to your house. You're like, hey. Yeah. What are you doing?

Forget about your house. A fucking military base? anybody buying any land around a military base should be thoroughly vetted there should be different laws if you want to buy land around a military base it should be like no yeah background check for sure

not just background check like you should be American citizen A and you should have like a legitimate verifiable reason for owning this land like you're a farmer or you're gonna put fucking windmills up there whatever you're gonna do it should make sense it shouldn't be like all you have to do is have money and you could buy land right next to a military base. Yeah.

Where they're doing, who knows what. Yeah. And, you know, China has, like, some of the top, you know, some of the, like, you never know what they're technology. Yeah, the technology. Oh, their technologies off the charts. Yeah. They're drone technologies beyond ours. And they have, like, crazy drone displays where they have enormous dragons.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They fly them over the sky, like thousands and thousands of drones. and they make a dancing dragon in the sky. Like, whoa. So they're all coordinated, but some sort of a computer program and they all work autonomously.

It's nuts, man. Like, their cars are insane. China's cars, they have electronic or electric cars that are beyond anything we have here in America. And they can't sell them here, which I think is kind of crazy. I think that's kind of fucked.

It's kind of, I mean, I guess we're in competition with China, but, like, it should be, survival of the fittest when it comes to cars. Like, if you're making the best fucking cars and you happen to be in China, they should be over here. Right. You know? Yeah. I mean, it would

suck if I was Ford and these Chinese cars were way better than anything that we're making here. But everybody that I've talked to, and I've talked to some guys that work for major automobile organizations, and they went over to China and they're like, oh my God, we're fucked. Like, these cars are insane.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, just Tesla alone. I know, I know not China, but, I mean, Oh, those cars are insane. Yeah, they're pretty dope. But they make them here, and they make them in China too. They made a lot, they were making a lot of them in China during the pandemic because the pandemic didn't really close things down in China the way it closed things down here.

But they have electric cars now that have like these insane suspensions. They go zero to 60 in one and a half seconds. They're nuts. Yeah, there's this dude that I follow online. God, what's his name? Forest Auto Reviews. I'm trying to remember, but he does these quick reviews, and somehow or another,

he always gets these Chinese cars. I'll find his name. You know what he is? No, but I was, I mean, I don't think this is his channel, but I'm looking at the Ziami S.U.7. I can find his video if you want me, too. Yeah, these cars are nuts, man. It looks like a Tesla, but...

Oh, that's the dude. It is? Yeah. What is his channel? This isn't his channel, I don't think. Somebody else uploaded it? Maybe, I don't know. maybe maybe somebody else

uploaded it I think it's the same guy let me find it I think it's Forest Auto Review no that's not him he's not that guy hold on

yes Forrest Jones that's it so he keeps finding he keeps reviewing these just scroll down for his videos go to his video section

I'm not if you search you can just narrow it down more but it didn't really work One year ago, a Tesla minivan, or China minivans? They have some crazy shit.

Find a good one. I don't know if it's electric. It's just a luxury car, though. Yeah, this is it. This is electric. Look, look at these things. They're nuts. ...with this gorgeous speaker.

I also get two wireless charging pads with a fan to keep them cool. I have this gorgeous drive mode selector. I have cup holders right in here, and I have a dash cam that can do this. Oh, that's crazy. Great selfies. For the blicky. I have built-in-framed.

that slot in right here. If I push this button, I have more storage space and I can do this. If I push the button on the side of my seat, that'll fold down my armrest. My seats are heated, ventilated, and massaging. I have an area right down here for my phone. I have built-in sunscreen shades. If I push this button, my cup holder comes out and I can do this. This is $37,000. And these cars are not available in the US? That one's 37? Is that one? No. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong video. That sounds like it cost more than 30. It says luxury cars. What car is that? Does it say?

Doesn't say in the description? No description has been to add to his video. See, go over to the beginning, see what it says. Inside I get a moon roof, pillows in my headrests. These heated, ventilated and massaging seats. I get a passenger screen. Yeah, so they're doing wild shit over in China with technology. And they have full surveillance on their population.

You can't say shit over there. Yeah, they have like facial recognition. Oh, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, you can't step out of line at all. They'll make you turn you into a handbag. They don't fuck around over there. Yeah.

You know, they have, do you know that bodies exhibit? Do you know what that is? Yeah. Like the dead bodies exhibit? I think there's one in Vegas. Exactly. They get their bodies, most of them, from China. And they're, yeah.

They're called, like, Chinese, I think it's undeclared bodies. So, like, if you die within a certain amount of time, if someone doesn't claim your body, unclaimed bodies, if someone doesn't unclaim your body within like 30 days, they just can turn you into a statue. Wow.

Well, here's the problem with that. In order to do this process where they turn you into a statue, it has to take place within 48 hours of your death. So there's no way they're waiting a month. Yeah. So they have to start this process

like pretty soon after you die. And they have this process called plasticination. and they take the bodies and they basically strip all the fat from the body and they turn it into this plasticized statue of all your muscles and tendons and ligaments. And so you're out there like playing basketball and like you could see like the rib cage and all the ligaments. That was a dude that was probably tweeting the wrong thing or he worked for a company and he fucked up or he was banging someone's wife or he was doing something and they turned this dude into a statue. and now he's at the Luxor in Vegas playing golf. For real, we looked into it.

There's not just me saying this. There's a bunch of stories online about these different bodies and how they've found ones with bullet holes in them. They found one of them was crazy. So this lady was having an affair with a mayor in this town in China. And she was an online or a television broadcaster. She was like a news lady or something like that. And she was having an affair with the mayor.

The wife finds out about it. The lady goes missing. She gets scrubbed from the internet. Turns out the lady was pregnant. She was eight months pregnant. She goes missing. Then all of a sudden this pregnant lady appears at the body's exhibit with the baby inside of her. Same exact size, same features, everything as this lady.

The wife of the mayor who she was having an affair with, The wife was the manager of the plasticination factory where they turned everybody into statues. Damn. Damn. And these bodies, there's no skin on them? No skin. It gets even crazier.

Years later, she gets arrested for killing another person. She gets arrested for poisoning some English businessman. And then it goes to trial. Well, the person who stood trial for her, the person who stood was not her. There's pictures of the lady on the stand. It's a different lady. So she must have paid someone off to get convicted and go to jail, like paid their family off or something like that, and she got free.

So this is all alleged, by the way. Yeah. All alleged. But you could see the video or the body is still exhibited, the body of the pregnant lady. So there's a pregnant lady, and you see a cross section of her stomach where she's like holding under her stomach and you see the fetus inside of her stomach. So we're supposed to believe that this undiscovered body, this unclaimed body of a pregnant lady with an eight-month-old fetus inside of her body, that they find it. And then somehow or another, they know it's cool, so you can just turn it to a statue. But you have to do that within 48 hours of someone's death.

But no one claimed it, which takes a month. None of it makes any sense. Yeah. The whole thing is nuts. Some of them are people that, like, I'm going to die. I want to donate my body to this exhibit. Okay. If you're crazy, that's what you want to do, that's cool.

But that's not all those people. Some of those people are, it's a very sketchy circumstances. See if you can find that image of the pregnant. I wonder how often or how many times that happened. Like, the pregnant body, like they never investigated it. The family wanted to, the family wanted to investigate it. They wouldn't let them. Exactly.

They were trying to do that, but they wouldn't let them do it. These people have, like, obviously have immense power. If she got someone allegedly, got someone to stand in the line for it. And this is like in China? This is in China. So look at this. This is the baby. Pregnant woman and the fetus inside of her.

And so the family looked at the face and they're like, Jesus Christ, oh, someone stole the fetus? Oh. Also, I was digging. There's another scandal that happened in 2024 with a bunch of corpses in China too. Well, there's a video where this investigative reporter visited one of these plasticination factories and there was bodies that were laying down. There's a video of it.

You could watch the video. These bodies are laying down they have sheets over their head and they have their arms tied behind their back and the sheets are bloody. So it looks like they all got whacked and they're all at this plant getting ready to be turned into a fucking statue. It's creepy as shit, man.

This body was, they just stole the fetus. Two women in L.A. stole it. Two women? This was 20 years ago. probably stuffed it inside of their belly. Look, you're probably on my Instagram algorithm right now. There's another scandal they have where over 4,000 bodies were in a scheme, a corpse scheme, they said. Oh, my God.

They were being sold. Families thought their body, their family member was being cremated was not. They were being sold into, I was trying to find out what they were using. Oh, that's a lot of bodies. Jesus Christ. They were using them for bone grafting. Oh. So, uh, alogenial.

bone graft products. Oh, that's another thing, one of these schizophrenic ladies was telling me, and that is true, that a lot of these women are getting fat that's taken from cadavers.

So they take fat from cadavers, and then they inject that fat in their ass to give them a BBL, like no bullshit. And Whitney Cummys, I told, I sent it to Whitney.

She's like, oh my God, it's literal dead ass. That's such a funny line. Because that's what it is. I mean, it's dead tissue. You're taking a dead person's fat, and they're stuffing it in their ass. Cadaver fat transfer, utilizing processed human donor fat. Who has become a major emerging alternative to traditional autologous fat transfers,

like traditional Brazilian buttlifts or BVLs, and synthetic implants. How does it work? Instead of harvesting fat from your own body via liposuction, surgeons use donated human fat harvested via authorized tissue banks, allegedly. The fat is rigorously screened, sterilized, and processed to remove all the donor's DNA, cells, and genetic material. What remains is a structural clumpy butter. So hot. Clumpy butter ass is so hot.

Matrix of collagen, proteins, and growth factors. When injected into the body, this matrix provides immediate, volume and also acts as a biological scaffold that encourages your own natural tissue to integrate and grow into it. Yeah, that's gross, bro. Dead ass. Actual dead ass. And women are doing this.

See if you can find a video of them doing it. I was thinking like, man, how are you? You don't want to? They call it zombie filler. Oh, it's so nasty. That's so nasty. How bad do you? Just do some squat.

You lazy bitch. Yeah. But that's, people like a real ass anyway. The ass and the legs, it has to match, folks. Yeah. It has to match. Can't fake it. It's like, you ever see those dudes that they don't really have muscles, but they get oil injected into their arms? Yeah, and it's just like, it's all weird.

Weird, like, it's almost like a fake tit. Yeah. I saw his Brazilian dude. He had it on his biceps. And his traps. Giant traps. Giant crazy shoulders, big tits, crazy. And he's like flexing and doing all this stuff.

But it looks weird. Because it's your body, it's like, it doesn't fit. Yeah. It doesn't fit your body. That's the same thing when a girl gets a crazy fat ass and she's got these toothpick legs because she's lazy. Yeah. Like that doesn't fit your legs. This is, you're wearing a diaper.

This is crazy. Don't do that. Yeah, man, dude, women. Come into the process. Women go to the extreme. I know. Yeah. Well, the thing is, I think if you do just a little bit, just a little bit of dead ass, maybe it's nice.

Yeah. You know, I bet there's girls that have done it that you go to the wrong. right doctor like this Beverly Hills dude he's like I got you just enough you just gonna plump that sucker up just a little bit just a little bit yeah a little bit a little bit a little bit a little bit a little bit a little bit of dead ass little bit of distant touch just to touch your death that's pretty gross like for someone to put someone else's clumpy butter and it's fucking completely disgusting how do your body even react to that or how to like not well yeah not well and then to have all that They take out the DNA and all this other stuff.

What if they don't? What if that's bullshit? What if the DNA's in there? What if you start getting weird memories? You know? Yeah. Weird memories from ass tissue, like weird nightmares. Those fucking photos here are rough.

Let's go. Pull them up. Right here. Ho! Elderly male, fresh cadaver underwent a layered dissection of all bucks. So they're taking fat from an elderly guy's face? Actual dead body? Whoa.

Does it matter where the fat comes from? I guess not. I guess it's just fat. So this is a dead guy and they're peeling. So who sold his body to some fucking laboratory would they do this? Yeah. Have the clumpy butter in this. Look at that in the upper right corner. A whole crazy.

So this is pre-deadass and post-dead-ass. See, that's not bad. It's not bad, but that lady could have done that with the gym. True. That lady could have done that with, she didn't go crazy there. That's just a little dead ass. Just a touch. That probably looks good on the side

If you turn it sideways Does there any photos where they show? This video there says one shot cost 20 grand Let's see that guy He looks like a demon Well these videos are That's not even a real shit state That's an AI

It falls down a weird Weird path here Oh my God Yeah I'm not showing those photos either It's disgusting So they're just Sucking fat at a dead people

I had one of my knees reconstructed with a cadaver graft on my ACLs I got a they use a the Achilles tendon because the Achilles tendon is thicker and stronger than the actual ACL and they put it in my right knee it's never been a problem holy works great well from from your from your own from your own from a dead dude oh okay oh oh what's that that says gluteal augmentation so that's but right right it says fat grafting So that would be putting fat into the butt.

Oh, where's that scar? Bro, that scar's gigantic. You can have this... I just got a fork holding it open. Look how green everything looks in there. Oh, that looks so nasty. It looks like bad cheese. That's disgusting.

That looks like... You know, when you go to see like dry-aged meat and you pass by those... Yeah. They have the dry-aged meat container. So you're going to get... your fat put in your ass or an implant, but then you have this massive scar. Boy, I mean, these pictures are gnarly. That is another head. Look at the ear right there. So that's where they're getting the fat. How much fat do you have in your head?

Oh, well, that says temporal augmentation by intermediate fat pad filler injection. So that's someone getting that done to their head. Maybe it's like tightening up the skin. Yeah, maybe, right? Like a filler. Oh, yeah, there you go. She says here. Oh, she looks good. That actually looks good.

So that's from her fat graph. Sorry, I can't show these photos, guys. You have to Google it. Sorry, folks. Some of it's disgusting. But if you look at people's face when they get older, that's one of the things that happens is you lose collagen and fat in your face. And that does make sense that putting it in would be better.

See, that looks like hell. Both of them look like hell. Don't do that. Go to the gym. Lazy bitch. What is that one to the right of it, though? That one to the right, yeah, like there. So she got a little bit of a bubble butt from that.

But again, go to the gym. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah, look at the rest of the body. Yeah, go to the gym. This is crazy. Questionable tattoo. Yeah, questionable choices.

You get dead ass. You get dead people's tissue pumped into your butt so that more people want to fuck you. Like, hey, find Jesus. Go find Jesus. Okay. If you are out there, I don't give a lot of advice, but this is my advice. If you're out there and you're thinking about getting dead people's fat pumped into your ass, you probably need Jesus.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, DBLs are kind of going out of style, man. Yeah. I think people think they're gross. They should. Naturales are making a comeback. Yeah. Just work out.

Like, there's a lot of ladies that had flat butts that they put in the time, they put in the effort. And now you're like, damn. You can do that too. Yeah. Anybody can do it's just the process. Yeah. People don't like that process. People just want quick results. Exactly. And they don't want to work for it. They want OZMPIC and then they want dead ass. They don't want to lose the weight. Like a nice combo they could put together. And now they're saying and then put it back where you want it. Yeah, Retruetide. What is that called? Red a True Tide. Red a True Tide. Red a Trudite and Deadass. They should have like a one-stop shop. Yeah. Now they're saying, OZempic eats up your bones. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, definitely. So everybody's. everybody's fucked because they've been taking it well it's not just that it also kills your desire this is what's weird like people are falling out of love when they get on ozempic like they lose their desire really yeah the people lose ambition they lose desire they also lose addiction like people that are addicted to cigarettes people that are addicted to alcohol and gambling apparently ozempic helps that because you're

basically killing desire like your your desire to go and smoke a cigarette you're you're desire to have a drink. Yeah. It gets killed by Ozzympic. Yeah, it also changes your whole face, right? Oh, yeah. It eats up all your... That's a problem.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a problem. Especially for ladies as they get older. Like, the more fat you have on your face, the better you look. Like, when your skin gets real thin and starts draping over your bones, like, you know, that doesn't look healthy. Yeah. It looks like a problem. You're like to cut weight.

I know. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucked. It's fucked that that's a part of our society now. And it's just praying on people's lack of discipline and lack of understanding of the benefits of going through a process and achieving a result.

Because of all these ladies that wanted to do this, instead, if they just went to a gym, started eating healthy, they would feel better, they would think better, their body would look better, everything would be better, and they wouldn't have to get dead ass. Yeah. Yeah, it's just people being really self-conscious, you know, about themselves. Like I know a hot hot ass chicks that I'm like wait you take Ozempic why like why oh just like a little you know I'm like you don't need it

I think some women say there's a real benefit to taking a micro dose after a certain age I was watching a video this lady is talking about how micro dosing these gLP ones is actually beneficial for some women after a certain age because it helps reduce information it does a bunch of different things to them but I don't know do you gain the weight wax if Like there's people that just, oh, I'm just going to do it like really overweight people. They're just who obviously like have struggle, do it struggle with diet and working out. When they get off, do like they gain all the weight back, like everything else? Most likely if it's a psychological issue, the moment you get off of it, that psychological issue is going to return. Because that like shrinks your stomach or something, right?

Yeah, well, it does. But it's basically you're starving yourself. Just like when you got out of jail, you barely could eat that double cheese. Burger? Yeah. Right? It's because your stomach shrank, because you weren't eating much. That's kind of the same thing that happens with those Empic. I mean, what happens to them when people say, oh my God, it makes you lose bone mass, it makes you lose muscle mass. Right, but so does starving yourself. That's one of the things that happens when people, they go on these crash diets, they go, I'm just, I'm 30 pounds overweight, I'm just not going to eat. Okay, well, your body's

going to find food somewhere, so it's going to eat itself. And yeah, your body will eat fat, but it's also going to eat muscle tissue. It's also going to eat bone tissue. Your body's going to consume itself to survive, which is crazy. So these things that you're getting these side effects of like bone loss and muscle loss, that's what would happen if you just stopped eating, too. It's your body doesn't have any nutrients. Just like when you were in jail, you weren't getting any protein, you weren't growing any muscles. Yeah.

Your body is not getting the nutrients that it needs. So it's just shrinking. So Redatututide, is that how you say it? I believe so. So that, the difference between this red at truchide, this. This one is a different one in that this one allows you to have all the weight loss, but you don't lose the muscle loss. It's not the same thing. I want to show you a picture of what I look like, bro.

Oh, yeah, please do. It was horrible. You got my number. Send it to me, and I'll send it to Jamie. All right. It's shocking, bro. Holy hell, bro. If this Red at Two Tide, am I saying it right?

Red a True Tide, Red a Two Tide, whatever it is. This one, they think, is going to be incredible. because this one is going to give you all the fat loss, but none of the muscle loss, none of the bone density loss. And I wonder if it's going to be the same for like desire and whether it's going to fuck with addictions and all those other things too.

Because I was reading this thing where employers are, they're getting upset at people taking GLP-1s because it changes their ambition. I saw that too. I've been trying to find that article ever since I saw it and I can't find it. And it's not.

Not that it is, but it makes me wonder if it's like... Right, propaganda. Propaganda against it from the people who are selling the good stuff now. They don't want to get replaced. It could. Put it into perplexity. See what AI, our AI sponsor. Are people working?

Yeah. Habits change. Do, are their employers who are having a problem with their employees taking GLP-1s? because it affects their work or ambition. I think what they were saying was ambition. It's making people less ambitious, which kind of makes sense because I think a lot of people, their ambition is probably an addiction. They're probably addicted to kicking ass and doing things.

Here it goes. Yes, but the main employer issues with GLP wants today are cost coverage and side effects impacting attendance and productivity. not a clearly documented widespread loss of work ambition. I'd be the same thing kind of probably. Yeah, productivity. Sure, if you're not as ambitious. But attendance is that unless you're injured, you're hurt. I might just show up.

You might just like I don't even feel like going. Right, right. So side effects and performance, common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, plus headaches and fatigue can result in comfort, increase absenteeism, and are tied to workplace performance issues if unmanned. legal and HR complexity, employers must balance, cost control with ADA, HIPAA, and non-discrimination rules when deciding coverage and when asked about employee medication use. Evidence of motivation and ambition.

There are anecdotal stories, media and personal accounts, of people feeling less driven or shifting life priorities on GLP-1s, but these are not yet backed by large workplace-specific studies. so employers are not treating lost ambition as a primary policy issue but i bet they're thinking about it yeah i bet they're thinking about it i mean it makes sense did you find it uh i'm having a sense to me or no okay yeah what you looked like right when you got out yeah yeah yeah it was crazy dude i can't find her right now i'm not having someone send it to me though okay no worse i'm kind of embarrassed to show you but i got i got to see this because you because i got to See this because if you see me now, I'm that holy hell, bro.

Yeah. Crazy. Good before and after is great. Yeah. The people that are really brave are the ones that say, I'm going to get in shape. So here's what I look like right now. And they post that on the internet. Like, whoa, that's crazy.

Yeah. But that's also, it's a good way to hold yourself accountable. You know? Yeah. You want a bunch of people to shit on you. Fat shaming works. I know it's not nice. People don't like it.

When someone calls you a fat fuck and you're like, oh, man, I'm gonna, yeah, my friend. Like, if you start thinking it, you go to work. Yeah, man. Yeah. A little bit of hard work, you know. A little bit of hard work, you know? Well, listen, if there's a way

where massively obese people that are dying can get healthy, and if it's a GLP1, I'm all for it. But for everybody else, just get to work. And you'll respect yourself so much better. Like right now, like you can look in the mirror and go, damn, I look so much better than I did when I got out of jail.

Yeah. Because you could have stayed looking exactly that same way, right? If you got discouraged when you were saying, like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to do this. I have no endurance. I don't know if it's ever going to come back. A lot of people would have just quit right there. Yeah. And if you quit right there, you wouldn't be able to appreciate the results when you kept going.

And that's the case with everybody that's at a bad place right now. Just go to work. Go to work. Write it down. Go to work. Put it together. Yeah. Yeah, and yeah, man, I think it just makes you that much, like, stronger and, like, aside from the work, but, like, internally.

100%. You know, makes you value yourself so much more in health. Absolutely. You know. It's also good for your brain and your brain's ability to do tough things. If you get through something difficult, you realize, like, oh, I've been here, like, the next time some fucked up shit happens to you, like, I've been here before. I know it sucks right now, but I'm going to just trust. this process.

Exactly. Keep on trucking. So right when I got back to work and I was like, man, I'm in the phase right now where it sucks, you know, like waking up sore as hell. I remember the first time I did leg day. I couldn't even fucking walk, dude. Did you have somebody walking you through it, like how to do it correctly where you don't overdo it in the beginning?

Because, like, did you work with a trainer or anybody? Yeah. Yeah. like over at the PI. So when we first got started, we obviously didn't want to like, because I was so eager to just get back in shape and it was tough, you know.

But that's like one of the things that, like while running, like I love to run. And it's like one of those things where like a lot of people, they reach to the point where they get tired and then they just stop. You know, they'll just quit.

you know and like you got to push yourself more and more harder and more harder next thing you know you catch a second wind and you know you're you're jamming but when i first first started i swear dude like i would like so when i first got out my my oldest son he he wrestles for high school um and he was like oh you're gonna wrestle you want to wrestle you know he knew i was out of shape i'm like oh man he might he might get me you know so in my mind i'm like all right i got one good take down in me and yeah

sure enough we wrestled and then shot for that take down got the takedown and got up and now I'm just like

whoa whoa and like he just ragged alled me after that he just ragged all me man and then actually a couple days ago

I got back from Vegas and I hit him up I'm like what's up now you know like what's up now and yeah man from that first

that first that from that first workout to this one, you know, we made it through a whole, a whole workout, you know, so it's such a good feeling because I got really, like, really discouraged, bro. I'm not even a lie. And it was points where I was like, got real emotional. I was like, dude, how am I this tired? Like, this is crazy, you know? And then I just always told myself, like, dude, you've made it through so much in your life

that you could come back and you can bounce back for this. This whole process has been like to me, it's like a comeback, comeback story, you know? Of course. And it's just about trust in that process. It's just so hard when you used to be at one point, and now you're way, way, way below that. And you've got to build back up to get to where you used to be, you know.

But that's kind of a blessing. There's a blessing in that because you realize, like, after it's over, it's like, wow, I did it. I did it. I pushed through all that bullshit. I got my body back in shape again, and I'm back. Like, when you get done with your camp, when you're peaking and on that last week, you're going to feel so good. Yeah, man.

Honestly, I feel great now. And, like, I feel like I've done such a great job and actually recovering more, doing, like, a lot more recovery stuff. And I've been incorporated that so much. And before I used to just go, go, go, and, like, now, like, I take the time to recover. and I've been taking this stuff from regenerate. What is that? Regenerate is like N-N-N-D or something like that. Oh, okay.

Yeah, stuff like that. So it's N-M-N, so it's like a precursor to N-A-D. Yeah. So you can find that stuff? UFC provides it? Yeah. Okay, so that means it's third-party tested. Regenerate.

Hmm. Does that, who, who makes that? stuff do you know I know I know that they're they're definitely UFC approved approved and like I think they might even sponsor Thorne is the main supplement company that you that the UFC uses right yeah because they're all third-party tested it's like safe for sport yeah the it's true shield certified products for professional athletes and yeah I started I started taking that like about two,

two fights ago. And, yeah, I feel great. I guess it's like NAD, like some kind of anti-aging or something like that and stuff.

Yeah. It's, it basically lengthens your telomeres. And it is, it sort of brings your body back to like a level of recovery that it had when it was younger, allegedly.

There's a lot of, there's a lot of people that take IV, NAD, You know, you can get it in the subcutaneous under the fat injections. They do it that way too. Yeah. Yeah, but I think some of the best ways is actually NMN, that stuff. Because what it does is it's like a precursor and your body just makes more NAD that way.

Yeah. I take it. Yeah, it works. I take it before I go to bed every night. You know, Andrew Huberman was telling me about it. He was saying he noticed that when he really felt like it was working, one of the things that he noticed was that his fingernails were growing quicker. And that's the same thing with me.

I texted him the other day. I go, this is crazy. Like, my fingernails grow way quicker than they used to. And I think it's because of that. That's crazy. I just noticed that, too. And that would be going crazy too. Yeah.

Well, I think it's your body's ability to regenerate, you know, and heal. And, like, for fighters, like, there's nothing more important than your ability to recover. from a hard workout so you can get to another one. Yeah, and I spent a lot of time, like, in a hyperbaric chamber. And now there's this thing, like, this pimpth, pmmph, yeah, PMF or something like that. And it's like an actual, like, a whole bed and just like, just kicks up like, like, just, some of like electric, like little pulses. And I'll be taking naps on that thing.

So some of the stuff, I don't even know what it does. does and I was like oh it's for recovery I'll do it you know hyperbaric works and it works in the same way that n-a-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-work in that it lengthens your telomere it's like they did a study out of a university in Israel I believe it was where they put people on a protocol of for 90 days they did 60 90-minute sessions at a hyperbaric chamber and they show that their telomere increase was equal to a 20-year difference in biological age so So it makes your cells younger because you're infusing them with energy. You're infusing them with oxygen.

Every time I do it, when I do it for like a series of it, when I get like real consistent with it when I have the time, I always feel better. I'm always like, why don't I do this all the time? Yeah, yeah, I'm in there like four or five times a week. That's huge. That is one of the best things ever for your recovery, especially as you get older, you know,

because it makes your body react like a young body does, you know? Yeah, so I'm over here, racing against the clock man so I'm like trying to do everything possible to to for my body just to recover from these hard-ass workouts you know how long was it after you got out before he started sparring again um I recently just started sparring about three weeks ago so you gave yourself yeah so what I wanted to do was was definitely get in shape got get getting good enough shape so like because if you go to extreme and you're out of shape you're gonna you're gonna Yeah, they're going to. It's going to be very demoralizing.

Yeah. Yeah. So I definitely wanted to get my, get myself in good enough shape. So like this whole time I've been doing like a whole bunch of like weightlifting stuff and technical stuff and and and a lot of S&C stuff and and and all that. Strength and conditioning. Just getting your body back and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So just recently I'm like, I feel I feel I feel good enough to to spar and and yeah. and having pretty hard sparring sessions. Well, you were a guy that was known for your endurance before. You're not a guy that fatigues and fights very much. You know, and you always push up a good pace too. So for you to get back to where you used to be

and have that same style, like you have to be in shape first. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I've been getting ready just to start getting ready, you know? Right, right, right. Do you wish you had more time than August, or do you think it's a good enough time period? I think it's a good enough time, especially like the way I feel now. And you have two months to go.

Yeah, and I have like another eight, eight, nine weeks, something like that. That's nice. Have you been to Serbia before? Never been. I've been watching videos of like the Serbian crowd, like in basketball. Yeah, it's wild. Bro. That shit is wild.

So in my mind, that's what I'm, that's what I'm expecting. I'm expecting, like, to be chanting and crazy. Have they had a UFC in Serbia? This is the first one. Whoa. We played those Serbian basketball games a bunch of times. Here we go. Outside one.

They got fires and shit. I don't hear anything. I don't know. Yeah, so I had looked, I had looked this up because I'm... Listen to these people. They treated like war. Yes. Like the audiences, they chant like a war is going on.

Yeah. In the middle of a basketball game. And, you know, all these Serbians that are coming over and dominating an American basketball, well, guess why? Yeah. Tough motherfuckers. That's originally why. I had looked this up a long time ago.

And what was it? Nicola Yokic. Yok is one of the top NBA players. And I was like, when I fan boy over, like, and I love basketball. Basketball is like one of my favorite sports. I always like look into like the background of the basketball player where he came from. And I had already seen the Serbian basketball crowd. Like, man, I'd be dope to go to like a, uh,

a basketball game in Serbia, you know? Yeah, I'd be careful what I ate and drank. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He could go over there to fight their main dude in the main event. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Just get them in a shirt.

Yeah, I don't like, dude, that's crazy, man. It's like... Especially they've never had a fight over there before. Never had a UFC over there? I'm not accusing the Serbians of doing. I mean, like, it might be a few unscrupulous gamblers. A few people. Yeah, so...

Look at this. Here we go. This is a basketball game I mean they got war drums They got war drums they're pounding Bro, this is Viking shit Yeah I love it

So this is what I'm expecting I love it I love it I want to go see a basketball game over there Especially fighting their guy Oh yeah it's gonna be nuts Yeah for sure But it's gonna be exciting It's gonna be so weird for you

Just to when they shut that cage Like oh my God I'm back Yeah I was in jail in Mexico I was in a different kind of cage yeah like a way less preferable cage yeah wild man what a crazy fucking story you know yeah man and and I get to um you know tell a whole keep the story going you know make it even make it even better yeah does it does it piss you off because like you had so

much momentum after beating Kevin Holland like that was a big victory for you yeah it couldn't have happened out of at a worse time man I know because Kevin's a tough guy and a tricky guy. And that was a Welterweight fight, right? Yeah. And fighting him at Walter Wade, that's where he's at his best. You know, Kevin at Walter Wade is really, that's where he belongs. Yeah.

For you to beat him, that's huge. Yeah, dude. He's such a tricky guy too, man. Yeah, it was an amazing fight, dude. It was. I hadn't been, I don't think I've had a fight like that in my career where so much going on. I was almost, I dropped him in the second.

You know, I was blew my fucking. gas tank trying to finish him and then come the third round he drops me and then almost finishes me and I bounce back and then end up on top it's like this these are those are the fights that I train for bro and my mind that's what I'm training for you know it's like and it couldn't have worked out and couldn't that fight was amazing I had that's my third time being scheduled to fight them and um finally finally happened and it was an amazing fight it was everything I expected it to be and I expect this fight to be an absolute war as well, you know. Dude, you know, it's got a couple knockouts.

You know, it looks pretty good. He's a very skillful guy, very skillful guy. Euros Medich is no joke. He's very good. Yeah. It's going to be a good fight. Yeah. It's perfect.

Yeah, I'm going to bring it, you know. For sure. I'm bringing that. You always do. Fair, yeah. But for that, man, it's going to be so emotional for you. Like, having that moment, like, realize that you're fully all the way back?

Yeah. I can't imagine. Yeah, man. What is the craziest shit you saw in jail in Mexico? The craziest shit I saw in jail in Mexico? I'm not really too crazy, man. Really? Yeah.

I would imagine Tijuana jail is pretty fucking crazy. Was it because you were in sort of a protected area? No, to be honest with you, the area I was in was kind of like, It's like the VIP section, bro. It was like, everybody was like there, like someone with money or like, you know, well, we paid to be there, you know, it wasn't like that protected. It was kind of dangerous in a sense where like at night all the cell doors are open, you know, so it's kind of like a little dangerous on that.

A little sketchy. Yeah, a little sketchy. Nobody got killed or anything while you were there? Not in my section But in other sections of the jail People got killed? Yeah How many?

Since the whole time I was there I'd tell you like two or three You know but I don't know the craziest thing I saw in jail Probably Probably some of this I bought an ounce of weed

You bought an ounce of wheel That was the last thing I would buy If I was in jail for weed I bought an ounce of Were you worried about they're going to piss test you or anything? Yeah. No, no. Well, the guards brought it in, so I was figured like, how my God,

how might be the trouble for this if the guards are bringing it. That's crazy. The guard sold you weed. That is wild. How much is an ounce of weed in Mexico? About $300. It's crazy, bro. You could pay for girls to come in, bro.

Really? Yeah. They have, like, a menu. Shut the fuck up. And you can't get a steak? I'd be like, keep the ladies. Can you get me a rib-eye? Yeah.

Dude, we had a, we had a barbecue one time. Yeah? Yeah, we had a fucking, we literally had like a barbecue. It was like, well, not on a grill, but when I first got there, we had like these hot plates. And the leader would always, like, do stuff for the whole tier. You know, like, he'll always like, Oh, today we, you know, like every once in a while, say like once or twice a week, maybe. Nah, not once or twice a week.

I say like once or twice maybe every couple weeks. Like we'll get like pizza, like the order pizzas and shit. Really? Yeah, dude. And for like, I think it was like a thousand, 500, you could like order a chick, bro. Like a thousand bucks for like a thousand five hundred, something like that. And they'll put you in the conjugal rooms with some random chick and you could, you know, have your time order for like three, four hours or something like that. So you could basically, if you have money and influence, you could kind of do anything in there.

Yeah, I mean, if you got money, you'll be okay. I guess. Yeah. As okay as you're going to be in a Tijuana jail. Yeah, but, I mean, you're still locked in a cell. I mean, we would only go, we would only get two days of yard for one in a, one in a, one in a, one. an hour and a half, you know, an hour and a half. And the whole time I spent it running.

Wow. Trying to run, trying to keep my cardio up. And it was crazy, dude, because I was, like, the only dude out there, like, working out, you know. And honestly, by the time I left, I had everybody, like, working out, running or, like, doing some kind of, like, it was crazy how I, I, um, my, just me, working out and doing like my daily thing just like affected other people you know like sure yeah it's like how i remember like i would have like i would come out to on the tier and um i've been like doing doing workouts with with dudes right there you know and like i said there's a couple dudes in there that are some dogs you know and uh yeah hopefully hopefully if if they do get out you know he can they

contact you if they get out do you have your information yeah i'm still in contact with them well that's cool hopefully you can get them set up man did you get the picture in oh my god yeah i'll send it to you send it to me i'll send it to jamie the world needs to see this wow is it crazy looking at it yeah did you send it yeah for it to come in here but yeah man so the two the you said a few people got killed did you know those people no no i don't know but when this picture's crazy yeah when uh stuff like that happens like there's obviously like you hear because because um oh you know what a lot of dudes were overdosing in there really yeah from fentanyl i think so bro a lot of dudes were in there like

doing heroin and stuff yeah yeah yeah that picture's crazy though huh it is crazy yeah and then like to It's crazy, dude. It's crazy how I've bounced back from that. Wow, you look so thin. Yeah, dude. Just malnourishment at its finest, bro. Oh, my God. Yeah, you look like a dude who's just getting out of prison.

That's what you look like. Yeah, so that's the first... What do you got, a burrito there? Some tacos. So that's like right after I had the burger. I only took like two bites of those tacos. I'm like, yo, I'm full. I'm imagine.

your stomach must have been super shrunk. But yeah, you could see where you lost all your muscle mass. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So to bounce back from that and to be, to, you know, be in decent shape right now. How many guys died of overdose while you're there? About three or four of them.

Damn. So you could kind of get anything you want, really, in jail. Yeah. Any kind of drug. Could you get steroids? I don't think so. I try to get protein. Protein powder?

Yeah. Yeah, some protein powder, but we never, it was never able to happen. That's crazy. They get your heroin, no problem. Yeah. Protein powder? Oh, it's kind of an issue. Yeah.

That's ridiculous. That's crazy. Yeah. I had turned myself until like a little gym, man. I was like just trying to stay busy, man. I always told myself like, man, there's for some, this is, there's got to be some way that there's going to work out for me, you know? and you know I ended up I ended up having to you know pay a nice amount of money you know to be here to be here today it's a lot bro I'm sure we'll talk about that later

but I'm listen I'm glad you got out you know I had only heard about it um maybe a few months ago I'd heard about it like I want to say three four months ago because someone had asked where you were like you know someone's saying you know who we haven't seen a while is D-Rod. And then someone said, dude, I heard he's locked up in Tijuana. And I was like, oh, no. I'm like, what, that fucking hat. Like, that could be it forever. You hear someone's locked up in a Mexican jail.

You're like, that could be it forever. Never hear from you again. Yeah, man. I'm so happy to be out, dude. I can only imagine. I can only imagine. I mean, listen, it's, you don't appreciate the sunshine until you

experience a lot of rain. Unfortunately, that's how people operate. You know, you get real accustomed that things being great and then you don't feel good about it anymore. You need like a little bit of that in your life sometimes, just a little bit of a wake-up call to let you realize, like, you should be so happy and so thankful that you get to experience this life, especially the way you're experiencing it. I mean, what a dream to go from being a guy who's in and out of jail, fucking up your whole life to being a top 15 UFC Walterway contender

and arguably one of the toughest divisions in the sport, if not the toughest. I mean, the UFC welterweight division is fucking crazy. You got Carlos Prattes, you got Sean Brady, you got Morales, you know? Yeah, dude.

And before I got arrested, we were, I was going to fight protests. Wow. I would have fought him in Brazil. Woo! Yeah. That would have been wild. Yeah, dude.

And yeah, I mean, it's crazy to see, like, how the division has changed. Like, right now the top five dudes are Ian Gary, Protes, Morales, Machachev's champion. And it's completely, like, different now from when I got arrested. Did you see the JDM protest fight? No, I wasn't able to see that one. Prattice looks so good. He's so clever.

That's a tricky striker, man. And he's so long, so long for the weight class. It's almost like his arms belong to a dude who's seven feet tall. You know what I mean? Like his arms and legs are so long. He's so slick. Yeah. When I first got released, we were planning to fight Leon Edwards.

Yeah, but I think it would have been. been July 11th and that would have been way too soon. It would have been too soon, you know, but I mean the August fights a couple weeks after that, but, you know. That's a big factor though. Those couple weeks when you're dealing with like your body recovering from what you've been through, that's August sounds right. July sounds early. Yeah. Yeah. So now I'm going to, I'm going to be ready, bro. I'm in super good shape. Um, and, you know, I just got to, I just trust all the work that's ahead of me, all the work that I have lined up and all the recovery.

And just, it's like, like I said, man, like just appreciating everything, you know, like my life, bro. I've been out of jail before and no one ever gave a fuck, you know. Like now I'm out and I have these amazing opportunities and I'm sitting here talking to you, bro. It's crazy. And more importantly, you got a big fight coming up, so that's very exciting. I'm very happy for you, brother. I can't imagine what you went through. I can't imagine what it felt like,

wondering if you're ever going to get out, you know, and thank God you had the resources. You knew the right people, and they figured out I'd do it and turned you into a Mexican. That dual citizenship, that's wild. Yeah. Well, I can't wait to hear all about it off air.

But congratulations on getting out. I look forward to your fight. I'm really pumped. I'm really pumped for you. I'm very happy. Very happy you're out. Yeah, man. Biggest fight in my life coming up, man. I'm just embracing all the work and just everything, bro.

Just everything. I'm living the whole process. Well, I can't wait to see the fight. So congratulations. I know the people are rooting for you. So thank you for being here, man. There's a lot of fun. Hey, thanks for having me, bro.

My pleasure. My pleasure. All right. Bye, buddy.