The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #33 with Brendan Schaub
Episode Date: July 3, 2018Joe sits down with Brendan Schaub to discuss upcoming fights. ...
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Three, two, one.
Yee-haw! I walked in, you guys were watching soccer. I was hugely disappointed.
Dude, England's in penalty kicks.
Oh my god, is that okay? What happens?
It's the World Cup, man. If they win, they move on.
But the penalty kick thing...
And they just won. They just won. England just won.
We missed it? We missed it?
They just fucking won.
Are you guys rooting for England?
Yeah, I'm English, man. I'm half English.
Are you?
My mom was born and raised there, bro.
I thought you were black.
What's up, bro?
I know, most people do.
English, son.
So you really root for England?
Yeah, big time.
No shit.
Yes.
Wow.
Yeah.
I know.
Well, if US isn't in it, you know.
Do you know what's happening when they're playing, or do you only know when the ball
goes in?
No, I have kind of an idea.
I would say I'm a blue belt in soccer.
Really? A blue belt. Damn. Like, I wake kind of an idea. I would say I'm a blue belt in soccer. Really?
A blue belt.
Damn.
I wake up early and watch the games.
Only World Cup.
Wow.
Only World Cup.
Dude, I was in Boulder.
You know, Boulder's like the People's Republic of Boulder.
I don't have to tell you.
You're from Colorado.
You know what it's like out there.
I went to school there, son.
Boulder's rough.
Yes.
They're like super duper liberal.
And people were Unnaturally happy
About the World Cup
Like super excited that they know so much
About soccer and I was at a bar
And I was like ew
That'll make you hate it
But if you go to England
You'll feel good about it
But it was this certain type of white dude
Let's see you bro
They mean well They probably had a dad that was in the Navy or some shit this certain type of white dude. Let's see you, bro. You know? Let's see you.
They mean well.
They probably had a dad that was in the Navy or some shit.
Got bullied around at home
and they just went
the total opposite hard way.
No.
That shit happens, man.
He's a tough sell,
especially if you're like an athlete,
like a black athlete.
Oh my God.
That's why they struggle a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
Like, look at the beautiful mountains.
They're like,
bitch, I don't hike. I mountains They're like bitch I don't hike
I don't give a fuck about your mountains
That's why they struggle I think recruiting
Really?
It's so beautiful there though
Yeah if you're into fucking hiking
And fucking water rafting
The people are super nice too though
They're alright
They don't give a fuck about sports
Where if you go to like a southern school Georgia or Tennessee, you're a god.
You get your dick sucked every fucking period.
Is that bad that they don't care?
Or is it good?
It's bad.
It makes you work hard.
No, it sucks.
You got nature out there, though.
Eagles and shit.
Bears.
Fucking nature.
My dick sucks, bro.
Did you know that wolves and bears And wolves and grizzly bears
Are making their way back into Colorado
Really?
Yeah
About god damn time
Interesting
Why were they gone?
Well they killed them off in the 1800s
And then they reintroduced them to Yellowstone
And mostly they stayed around Wyoming
And Montana
Where Yellowstone is
And they made their way into Idaho
But now they've definitely spotted them in Colorado
and they also
a very credible source in fact my friend Adam
Greentree took video
of what he said was a grizzly bear
and he knows the difference he knows his shit
it was in the San Juan mountains in Colorado
last September so they think
that there's a population
of grizzly bears Adam would know
and if you watch the news like the local news in la which i do especially when i get depressed you there's a
bunch of black bears like in hot tubs and shit just popping up in pasadena just chilling in hot
tubs why do they love the tubs well they don't know that it's a hot tub they just know it's water
so like for them to find a spot that's filled with water it's probably terrible for them unless you
have a salt pool you know how hot it is doing the chlorine the chlorine
That's what I'm saying. Like if the Bears drinking all that chlorine is in that pool, you know
Yeah, that's like that's dick soup. Yeah
That cock soup from the black bears
Yeah, what percentage of hot tubs people fucking 100% is the answer 100 well in pasadena pasadena they're
just rocking it out out there yeah there's a lot of bears up there there's a funny video man of
this dude in pasadena and he's on his phone and he's walking down an alley and as he turns and
walks down the alley he's just on his phone and he's looking down he's not looking where he's
going he looks up and there's a fucking bear right in front of him and the bear doesn't do shit the
bear doesn't know what to do and he just runs. Both of them are like, what the fuck?
See if you can find that.
Homie is just not paying attention.
Dude, I would shit my pants. Oh yeah,
for sure. It's very dangerous. Like you saw the
homeboys in Seattle get fucked up
while one died by the mountain lion? Yeah.
That super hungry mountain lion? Yeah, just
on a bike. Apparently the mountain lion was emaciated.
It was all fucked
up and sick and
it only weighed like 90 something pounds, but it's still fucked both of those dudes
up. But they, they tell you like, Oh, use your bike as a shield and scare them off.
That line's like, what? I don't give a fuck about your Trek bike. Yeah. They hit it with
the bike. Apparently it didn't do shit. How about homeboy was like, dude, you're going
to attack. I'm going to run and get help. Way to go. Asshole runs off in that line and
goes, where the fuck you going?
And then kills him.
Homeboy got away.
You know, that happened in Beijing, too, with the lady who got out of the car and a tiger attacked her at the wild animal park.
Yeah, that's what you get.
She got out of the car.
The tiger attacked her.
Here it is.
Damn, that's a big bear, bro.
It's a big bear.
That's a fucking terrifying bear.
So this guy, he's on his cell phone.
Where's the... Dude, that's a fucking terrifying bear. So this guy he's on his cell phone Where's the?
Dude, that's a big ass bear. Here it is. Here it is watch the dudes on his phone
He's like fuck which is by the way the worst fucking thing you could do just got super lucky
See if you can pull back you can see like where the bear walks behind those bushes. Yeah right here
See if you can pull back You can see like
Where the bear walks
Behind those bushes
Yeah right here
This is hilarious dude
Look the bear is walking right there
The guy walks down
He's not even looking
Oh Jesus
Shit
Dude
So you're supposed to get loud right?
Like get as big as possible
Yes
You definitely don't want to run away
Because their instincts are to chase
Yeah but they say
When you get loud
And like challenge
I'm like you hear about that
It's funny I don't know why I'm. You hear about that? It's funny.
I don't know why I'm laughing.
You hear about that Boy Scout leader?
No.
Who they saw a bear and it's like, play dead or do your thing when you play dead or get
real big and loud.
They don't know exactly what to do, but I guess in the Boy Scout fucking handbook, it
says to get loud and make a scene.
I don't know if I got loud and made a scene and that bear was like, oh, cool.
Hey, kids kids watch this
ate him asshole first in front of the whole squad oh no yeah so they don't i don't think they know
exactly well the problem is bears are just like every other animal right like think about dogs
all dogs are different man some dogs just come over their house and they're like hey what's going
on how you doing and then some dudes come over their house their dogs checking you out like i
don't know motherfucker i'm not sure about you exhausting they get around you and the hair comes
up and you're like oh my god his hair is up the worst your dog has his hair up what's going on
here i think bears are probably just like dogs and that they're just they vary they say it also
depends where you're at like they walked into his cave so he's like you're in my house give me that
asshole oh that's terrifying i don't think for that cub scout you're like oh my god apparently the worst thing that could happen is you walk into
a female with their cubs game over yeah it's female grizzly with their cubs should just light
you up do you have no chance it's not like you're gonna what do you do i was listening some bitch on
the news because they're talking about black bears and hot tubs and if you run into one
this lady is saying go so. It's so hilarious.
Punch them in the nose.
Oh, my God.
Their noses are super sensitive, or go for the eyes.
Yeah, let me try that.
They bite each other's faces.
People have to understand.
And they fight with each other, which they do all the time.
They do all the time.
They're always fighting.
For sure.
I've seen bears in person fight in the wild.
I've seen it.
They just fight.
I've seen bears in person fight in the wild.
I've seen it.
They just fight.
Especially during the rut, like in the springtime.
They fucking bite each other's faces and it doesn't even look like anything happened. They're good.
They bite the shit out of each other and nothing happens.
So you punch that thing in the nose?
With your little bitch ass hands.
Like, what are you going to do?
Callan has an old bit where, he did it on a special, so you won't mind me saying it,
but Callan has an old bit where people go, oh, just
punch a shark in the nose.
Has he ever tried punching underwater? He's like,
oh, slow.
That's so true! I've thought that
exact same thing. I've thought
that exact same thing. Like, how much could you
generate underwater? Like, people
go underwater to work out.
You've seen that famous photo of Ali.
Ali used to do a lot of shadowboxing underwater.
And John recreated it.
Have you seen the John Jones one?
It's fucking dope.
That's right.
That's dope.
You know, GSP does a lot of work in the water.
He was the first one I knew that was doing work in the water.
And actually for, I mean, months, we'd drive down to Laguna Niguel where he was working out.
And we'd do these water workouts
And we're in the pool. We're in the pool for like two hours. I was like, bro
I did it for two weeks and he goes you coming in on Wednesday
And I go, it's the worst. That sounds more like someone with a mental disability
Stephen Hawking definitely sound like someone who doesn't know English that good not good good. So anyways, he goes, you're coming home Wednesday.
I won't do the accent again.
And I was like, nah, I'm not, man.
I'm sick of the fucking pool.
He'd be in there for like two hours.
He'd have these things.
He'd just be in there doing this stuff.
Well, he does a lot of jumping, which is really interesting.
I was thinking about it.
I was like, yeah, you could generate maximum force jumping in the water.
And it's probably like real easy on the joints in comparison.
It's easy on the joints, but I was listening to one expert talk about it.
Actually, I think Loren Landau was telling me this.
He's a strength coach for the Denver Broncos now.
He was saying it's good to mix in, but to do it every week all the time,
especially in the sand or water, you're not getting the same explosiveness.
You're not generating the same explosive power.
So you should mix it up
Yeah, it goes if you're just doing that you're actually it's actually make you less explosive Wow
See those just be like be bags the differ like land out but those dudes that are just on the cutting edge
They're constantly like comparing studies and just trying to get that little extra edge and it is so interesting now
It's so like the world of strength and conditioning
has never been, like, more complicated.
Because there's no more bro science, though, also.
Because there's actual experts who are like,
you can look it up now.
Right.
Like, back in the day, my buddy was like,
dude, just eat fucking egg whites,
which we know is a terrible thing.
Just eat egg whites and drink milk
and you're going to get fucking swole.
Yeah, everyone used to say that.
No, everyone had all sorts of weird fucking diets
or just take this BSN and it'll explode, and you'll be jacked, bro.
Yeah, there's so many variables still.
There's still some variables, but when it comes to the guys that get paid big bucks to train top-level athletes, they seem to all be kind of on the same page.
Correct.
Lauren Lando is one of my best friends.
A lot of plyometric stuff.
A lot of plyometrics.
Usually they all agree on similar
things. They might have this variation here
and this variation here, but most of them agree
on the same fucking thing. Meat and potatoes.
Lots of meat and potatoes. No one's saying you need to be
powerlifting only.
No one's doing anything stupid.
A lot of them are saying, you know, doing
max reps and multiple
days and all this stuff.
Like that's not the way to go anymore.
No.
Like the meathead days are over.
Yeah, it's over.
But I say, fuck that noise.
I still do the meathead days.
Yeah, I like it.
Sometimes like whatever.
It's fun to be a meathead.
Put a little metallic on.
Get those jean shorts out.
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
Yeah.
Nice three-hour workout.
Firas was on.
Looking for Deca.
Firas was giving us some insight into his philosophy on training.
What did he say?
It was the most interesting thing he said.
He's a smart, smart man.
About as smart as people get.
But one of the more interesting things that he said was that you should never feel sore.
He's like, you should work out and you should build yourself up to the point where you never feel sore
and never push yourself past your limit.
You should never be like, ah, never.
And working out or training too?
He was talking about training.
He was talking about everything.
He was talking about just do more of it in a day.
Interesting.
Yeah.
He was saying that if you do like sets, like do a set of like, here's a four instance.
I'm taking it out of context.
This is his example?
Yeah.
It was like if you did a certain amount amount i forget the numbers he was talking about but if
you did a certain amount of work let's just to paraphrase say if you do uh 20 chin-ups you do
two sets of 20 chin-ups you like you barely can get 20 and you're burnt out afterwards and you're
wrecked or instead of that you're doing 40? Either way, do 40 of them throughout the day, but do it five reps at a time.
But do the same amount of work.
How would you ever build stamina?
It's a good question.
But the idea being, well, I think it's a different thing.
But the idea being to get yourself into this position where you can train hard, especially with physical fitness type stuff, shouldn't break your body down totally.
You should just give your body down totally.
You should just give your body enough of a chance to fully recover and then build up.
I think we have to be a little careful with it
because Frost specializes in mixed martial arts
where there's so many disciplines
where you can't go balls to the wall in strength condition.
You can't just break yourself with wrestling.
You can't just go hard in sparring.
You have to kind of monitor those things and figure it out.
So I think it's a little bit of a biased thing.
He's right.
I think as far as it goes, it's mixed martial arts.
Lauren Landau has been saying that forever.
Because I'd go super hard in the weight room.
He's like, I'm telling you, tonight you have wrestling.
You're going to be screwed, man.
You've got to figure this out.
You've got to figure out this formula, man.
That was a long time ago.
Yeah, they think that doing weightlifting in lower reps more often is the way to do it.
Yes.
It's fucking interesting man but when you're training for a fight you're gonna have to push yourself right if you're gonna there's
gonna be certain things like whether it's hill sprints or whatever it is i mean you're gonna
push yourself to the limit and i remember is is bis being ngsp had the same concept and training
with both of them i remember bis being he would go so hard in practice like his his when he would warm up his repetition striking uh hitting mitts wrestling
jujitsu everything was super high pace like i'm this is where i get my cardio from i'm doing the
actual sport of it i'm not gonna go around to fucking sprints right i'm just gonna do more
wrestling rounds and gsp was very similar he'd go super hard in that aspect.
Yeah, GSP was a wizard with that stuff, man.
I mean, he was always at the cutting edge when it came to doing gymnastics.
Remember, he was really into gymnastics.
Did it with him.
Me, Mark Hart, and him would do it together.
So interesting.
My big ass, I'd watch him do all these flips like,
all right, man, let me try this bullshit fucking cartwheel.
And they're like, very good, man.
It's good.
You're getting better.
You're better. I'm like, fuck you guys.
Does anybody your size do
that stuff?
I was the biggest one in there for sure.
And the rest were all eight-year-old girls who were just
monsters.
And then Nate and GSP.
I just looked like this big Shrek character in there.
Gymnastics
is probably like the
sport that gets dudes the most jacked.
When you see like ring guys.
They're tiny though.
Right, but they're jacked.
But doesn't count.
You ever seen a skinny midget?
A skinny small person?
Have you ever seen like a real thin small person?
I'm sorry, small person?
They're all jacked.
Are they?
Yeah, they're all fat asses.
They're all jacked as fat asses, bro.
I don't think it's the same thing we're talking about
I'm saying
I'm saying they're smaller
So they're jacked
Like if LeBron got in gymnastics
He's not going to be jacked
What's the average size of
Like Olympic gymnasts
5'3
Are they really tiny
Tiny, stocky, jacked.
Jacked.
But they've also been lifting like that since like four months old.
All I was getting at.
Sorry, man.
Before you're horrific.
No, I correct this at small people.
Ableist rant.
Do you know what ableist is?
No, please tell me.
That's the newest thing.
No, what is it?
Say if you make fun of someone who has a disability, you're ableist, including stupid people.
Tall gymnast is no oxymoron.
Okay, the average height for adult male gymnasts is around 5'4 to 5'7.
Jonathan Horton is listed as 5'1, 5'6, 5'8.
The tallest one is my height, 5'8.
I mean, he's like the Dikembe Mutombo.
He's an outlier.
Who's the tallest?
The tallest girl is like 5'2".
Oh, Jesus.
So that makes sense.
And then our stud.
Does it say gymnastics stunts growth?
Is that really what they think?
They start super young.
It said that right below that.
There was an article, does gymnastics stunt growth?
Is that a real question?
Whether it stunts growth.
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
Is it a real question?
Let's see. Click it. Well, they say lifting's stunts growth. Right. That's what I'm saying. Is it a real question?
Let's see.
Click it.
Well, they say lifting young stunts your growth, right?
I heard that, but how do they know that?
They don't.
I've been listening since fourth grade.
Maybe you'd be fucking super giant if you didn't. I know.
Maybe I should have been fucking playing basketball.
Whether gymnastics.
What does it say?
Hold on a second.
Stunts growth explained.
Hmm.
I don't remember
Maybe there's drawn to it
You know
Maybe there's short people
Who are drawn to it
Makes sense
Well
For
It's absolutely a myth
Says
US Gymnastics
Mmm
Scientific community
Isn't entirely sure
But the idea
That gymnasts
Would have grown
To be a foot taller
If they had only
Hadn't spent the time
On the parallel bars
is absolutely a myth.
The best in the world is 4'8".
That's weird.
Simon Biles is 4'8".
Simone.
It's a girl, bro.
Simone.
Don't misgender her.
Her friends call her Simon.
Son of a bitch.
I should call her Sim.
Talking about Sim.
Sim's 4'8", bro.
Sim's 4'8".
See that recovery?
That's a crazy sport, man.
Everything is like ready, set, go.
It's all about doing it in one moment.
Someone says go.
It's there and then you have to nail it.
But you have a routine.
You have a routine.
You just got to hit it.
Fuck off at all.
Game over.
It's over.
A little slip.
All those months and months.
Will you watch gymnastics?
I'll watch a little bit.
But you won't watch World Cup.
I watch World Cup.
I'm just fucking with you.
I'm just saying, man.
Don't you understand?
Look, if I find out something you like, I'm going to start mocking it.
That's how we do.
That's how we do, bro.
That's how we do.
I'm just going to make sure.
We're here to make fun.
This is true.
If you can't make fun of some shit that I like, man, I like a lot of dumb shit.
You know?
Not too much dumb shit.
You did bring back fanny packs, though.
I brought them back strong
Super strong
Yeah you're the
I won't get credit for it
You and Crow Cop though
Let's be real
You gotta give Crow Cop credit
He's European
Less courageous
It is
Cause they've been doing it
Forever over there
But as far as US
As far as the US
It's me and Hulk Hogan
No Hulk got rid of it
A long time ago
Okay well
We crossed bridges
He had it And I had it at the same time.
He just let it go a while ago.
He was like a fucking relaying.
When did he let it go?
Oh, years ago.
I bet he didn't totally let it go.
No, that sex tape came and he said, fuck that.
I bet he still got one.
No, no way.
I bet he does.
Back in the day at Gold's, guys would have them.
There'd be steroids in those.
They would shoot up with their little bag?
Yeah, you could buy it off of them.
Look at that.
The Hulkster. You don't have one there.
That's pretty recent.
Those new balances are terrible.
That guy had a shitload of back surgeries, man.
Yeah, no shit.
What did you expect was going to happen?
He's coming back to wrestling.
He is?
I believe so.
WWE?
I think I heard that, yeah.
Probably for WrestleMania appearance or something.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
And Chuck Liddell and Tito are fighting.
So what else you got?
Ooh, what do you think of that?
Not my cup of tea, but you know.
You're going to watch it.
For sure.
I'm going to watch it.
Yeah, we'll watch it.
Might do a fight campaign for it.
Some people say it shouldn't happen.
Oh, no.
See, I don't think it shouldn't happen.
I look at it more like if, see, I think if Chuck Liddell was still an employee of the
UFC, getting paid $400,000 just to chill or whatever he was doing for the UFC,
he would not be fighting.
I think there's more of a money play, which bums me out.
Because I think Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz,
what they did for the sport, should be compensated for the rest of their lives.
It bums me out they have to fight to make money.
That bums me out.
I don't know if Tito does so much because he was very smart.
Chuck, it seems like maybe that's what's going on there.
But he also has been saying, now you've got to wonder where this is coming from,
but he has been saying that he misses it.
It was his favorite thing.
Yeah, I miss playing baseball.
And then he misses it.
Yeah, but it's different.
If we're going to live forever, if we're going to live forever,
I would say, yeah, definitely don't do it
because you're just going to keep damaging yourself. If you're not going to live forever, if we're going to live forever, I would say, yeah, definitely don't do it. Because you're just going to keep damaging yourself.
If you're not going to live forever, and you're-
How old is Chuck now?
He's 48.
So let's say we're going to live to 100.
Let's say Chuck lives to 100.
He's halfway there.
I'm being friendly right now.
Let's say he's going to live to 100.
You never know.
Athletes don't live long, brother.
Oh, I have another- what am I?
I'm 35.
30 solid years left in me.
So let's say Chuck is going to-
Medicine's son.
Science.
New shit.
I'm big though.
Great Danes, bro.
So let's say he lives to 100.
He's basically halfway there.
Right.
Dude, at the halfway mark fighting, it's just, it can't be healthy, man.
Like imagine being 50 fighting Joe.
Yeah.
And you're the exception.
You know, like you're in phenomenal shape. Yeah, but I don't want to get exception. You know, like, you're in phenomenal shape.
Yeah, but I don't want to get hit.
You don't want to get hit in the face.
No.
It's not going to be pretty.
Not in the head.
Especially if you had all those years of...
Listen, I'm not hating on it.
There's a market for it.
Do your thing.
Like I said, to me, it's more of a sad story.
Because, like, I think they should be compensated or, like, I want them to parlay their careers
like a Michael Strahan or Kobe Bryant,
where there are legends and then they move on to do great things.
I agree.
But I also, if they wanted to compete, if it was because they wanted to compete,
I wonder where it makes sense to tell them they can't or they shouldn't.
Because if they want to do it, if they both want to do it,
like if they had money and they're like, if they want to do it if they both want to do it like if they had
money and they're like so what is it about it is it the motivation that bothers me like what is it
about a fight like that is the fact i think it's the motivation you cringe a little bit right a
little bit because see i think tito did better financially you know i think tito's fine he did
really well in bellator he might actually want this fight just to fight chuck again i think tito's fine he did really well in bellator he might actually want
this fight just to fight chuck again i think so i think tito's on a different trajectory correct
yeah i mean he's been fighting and doing well over the last few years businesses and you know
yeah he's he's still a formidable guy. He's a beast.
Tito's a big fella.
Yeah.
Both great guys.
Now, I will say this.
Everyone who's fighting in these older leagues, or if Golden Boy, if that's your thing to do, like this Master League,
everyone fighting that league better pray to the MMA gods.
Vitor Belfort does not enter that fucking thing.
Juice to the gills.
Oh, he's going to.
Have you seen his tits lately?
Yes. Looks amazing. Fantastic. I'm so the gills. Oh, he's going to. Have you seen his tits lately? Yes.
You better.
Looks amazing.
Fantastic. I'm so happy with him.
He will wheel kick the fuck out of all those old dudes at the same time.
He really will.
Dude.
I was looking at his Instagram the other day.
I was like, oh my God.
Yeah.
Does something happens to Vitor when he fills up with super unleaded?
Dude, it's like peanut butter and jelly.
He's a different human, man.
Let him do his roids, bro.
Some people don't do well with roids.
They get all red and shit.
He looks great.
His skin's vibrant.
His tits are popping.
He's all tan.
His teeth get wider.
He's doing straight testosterone.
He's not.
I mean, when he was on.
See, think about this, right?
We know for sure.
We all know absolutely 100% that people have cheated and taken steroids and got away with it.
We know that.
I know it.
You know that.
Especially in fighting.
Especially when the weigh-ins were the only day you had a pee.
Yes.
And there was no randoms.
They didn't just come by.
We know for a fact.
But when you watch someone who's just doing testosterone and what else he's doing?
With a human growth hormone and fucking
gigantic now I love that I love it too but what you get there it's a different
thing like for Vitor like something happens with him like when you when they
allowed him to take it like during the Rockhold fight and the Bisping fight
dude his body ate it up but that's a it's a kind of a different thing because
you're all it's like it's above board a different thing. Because it's above board.
You let him do it.
So he doesn't feel guilty about it.
You feel me?
He's finding a way where it's still legal when he was doing it.
Yeah, he was doing it legally.
He was doing it legally.
He got permission from the UFC to do it in the commission.
But if you go back before he did it,
like, did you see when he fought Sexy Yama?
Yes.
Dude, his body didn't look nothing like that.
It looked like a welterweight.
And everyone wants to go.
A lot of people go, oh, he did steroids, whatever sport.
Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds.
You take steroids, try hitting those fucking home runs.
Everyone was doing it.
In fighting, a lot of people were doing it.
I'm not going to say names.
home runs everyone was doing it in fighting a lot of people were doing i'm not gonna say names if so when john jones tested hot against dc right for whatever he does hot for if dc was doing the
same stuff would he have beat john the answer is no well it was a very close fight up until that
head kick right it was a good fight you don't you really never know what could have happened
i'm just saying let's say high level fighting right correct however but however that's what You really never know what could have happened. That's the thing about high-level fighting, right? Correct. However.
But however, that's what happened, so we have to judge it based on that.
If they are taking the same stuff, whatever you want to say John took, but if DC was saying,
do you think the outcome would have been any different?
My answer is no.
If they were taking the same stuff. See, the John thing, we've gone over this, but we probably should go over this again
if anybody doesn't know the actual numbers.
doesn't know the actual the numbers he tested negative then he tested positive for a minuscule amount was really small and then he tested negative again so whatever happened happened
in a very short window and it was an incredibly small amount of whatever that stuff was some call
it micro dosing yeah it could be that maybe we don We don't know really. Yeah. The thing about it is
that stuff is supposed
to stay in your system
for a long time.
It would be a stupid thing
to take
because supposedly
it's in your system
for weeks.
But we don't know.
Yeah.
Also,
the micro dosing shit
is real, folks.
That's real.
I mean,
that's what they were doing
in baseball.
They were taking
testosterone gummy bears
and they would only last like three or four hours.
And your body would metabolize them.
They said A-Rod would eat them during the games.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then by the time the game was over, it's out of the system.
Yeah.
And baseball.
Fucking gummy bears.
Baseball.
That was testing baseball players.
It was the dumbest shit.
But it was one of those weird American things.
Like everybody's like, I don't want my fucking athletes cheating.
Dude.
But if we had the Russians' about this just be cool, man
If I mean, what is it like like how do the Russians feel about like that documentary Icarus where that guy came on?
Claim that all the Russian athletes run steroids. They don't even address like yeah, no shit, buddy
Anyways, whatever let it whatever we're gonna get over it man. Kill a few whistleblowers over here. Don't mind us
Yeah, come over here. Let me know how it works out it go. Whatever, bro. We're just going to get over it, man. Kill a few whistleblowers over here. Don't mind us.
Yeah.
Come over here.
Let me know how it works out for you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wonder.
But the stuff with steroids, I think we put too much.
We almost put too much emphasis on the steroids.
Don't get me wrong.
It fucking helps.
It helps a lot of guys.
But if everyone was on the same thing, John Jones would still be the greatest all time.
He'd still be defeated.
Right.
Brock Lesnar would still be Brock Lesnar.
I think Kane would still be Kane.
I think everything would be the exact same.
I got to be serious here, man.
I think you're right if everybody was on.
The results would be the same if everybody was on.
The problem is like some people like Vitor, his body loves it.
He's made for it.
Yeah, his body's made for TRT replacement.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
So, I mean, good luck.
Good luck beating that dude.
Good luck with that.
Now that he's in the wild west of Brazil and he's looking for something.
On his Instagram, we talked on his Instagram, he finds his fan and he's like, how long you been a fan?
He's all, since the beginning, bro.
He's like, you want to see me fighting him?
He goes, let's do it.
Like gives him a wink.
I'm like, yeah.
Who's going to sign up to fight that fucking monster?
But here's the thing.
How does he get out of his contract?
Does UFC still have him under contract or did he retire?
He retired, but just because you retired, and I know because I retired,
your contract isn't void.
It's frozen.
They're very smart.
But it's Vitor Belfort.
I highly doubt all he's done for the UFC.
I guarantee you could talk to Dana.
Let him go, maybe.
Dana would let him go, I'd assume.
Yeah, that would be nice if they did.
The scary thing about Chuck is Dana, who's obviously very close with Chuck for a long time.
I don't know if they're so close anymore.
Dana.
This is Dana going, says, I don't think he should be fighting. Like, I don't want to see him fight again. I sure as fuck wouldn't let him fight here. I don't know if they're so close anymore. Dana, this is Dana going, says, I don't think he should be
fighting. Like, I don't want to see him fight again. I sure
as fuck wouldn't let him fight here. I hope he stops.
And when someone close to the situation
says that, I'm like, oh, God. But
he's going to do what he's going to do. Chuck
versus Vitor was one of the first fights I ever called.
Completed
his contract with the UFC last
month and lost to Lyoto Machida.
But it doesn't mean he's retiring.
The phenom took to social media to hint a return,
asked fans who they would like to see him fight next.
Oh, he's good then.
As usual for Vitor, though, his choices were a bit curious.
Who's he asking to fight?
Vandale?
He asked the fans, so he said Vandale, Chuck, Tito, Bisping, or Hendo.
Well, Hendo and Bisping's not happening.
Chuck, Tito, or Vandale. You tell me you wouldn't watch Vandale, Vitor, or Hendo? Well, Hendo and Bisbing's not happening. Chuck, Tito, or Vanderlei.
You tell me you wouldn't watch Vanderlei, Vitor, and Bellator?
I would watch that.
What if, say, imagine if Tito and Chuck fight, and Chuck wins.
Chuck wants to fight again.
He wants to fight Vitor again.
He beat Vitor in UFC 37 and a half.
And now it's like we're back to the future.
I would text Chuck, like, please don't fight Vitor.
He's a fucking, I feel like it's different with Vitor.
But wait a minute.
We don't know.
Chuck was clean.
How about get Chuck on the super sauce?
The ultimate ice man.
Stop fucking around.
Stop fucking around, bro.
You're 48 years old, son.
That's true.
You can't be eating mangoes and dates and fucking almond butter and think you're going to compete.
That's true.
With a sauced up Vitor.
I didn't think of that.
Come on, golden boy.
Yeah, you get that fucking.
Yeah, you can't fuck with any legitimate organizations.
No, why would you?
All these organizations that want to sneak up on you in the middle of the night and test your pee.
Oh, come on.
No, player.
No, come on, golden snitch.
Take a break.
of the night and test your pee? Oh, come on.
No, player.
No, come on.
Go and snitch.
Take a break.
How about there's guys like Josh Barnett, and even Liotto said this.
He goes, with signing with the UFC, because of USADA, and obviously they've all been busted
previously, so they have a little different agreement with them.
But they're saying, listen, well, Josh Barnett was not busted by Nowitzki, right?
It came out he never took anything, but he lost a year of his career.
Yeah, I don't understand the Josh Barnett case.
I'd like to have him explain it because it sounds like what I've read
sounds like he got fucked.
No, he did.
They even admitted it.
Tell me what you know.
They admit it?
They know for a fact he did not, right?
They came out that same thing.
They've had other guys, right?
Like the Dirty Bird.
What's his name?
Tim Means.
Tim Means. They came out that our bad. Over the counter. You didn't take anything. Yeah,'ve had other guys, right? Like, the Dirty Bird. What's his name? Tim Means. Tim Means.
They came out that are bad.
Over the counter.
You didn't pay anything.
Yeah, it's all good, right?
It took, like, some protein powder that was slightly contaminated.
And that came out as true.
And with Josh Barnett, it took a year to figure this out.
And then they go, my bad, bro.
Yeah, yeah, I know you missed a year in your older fighter.
And it's a year of not getting paid.
My bad.
You're welcome back now. And Barnett's going, fuck this, man. I'm out. Is that really what they did? I promise you that a year in your older fight, and it's a year of not getting paid. My bad. You're welcome back now.
And Barnett's going, fuck this, man.
I'm out.
Is that really what they did?
I promise you that's what they did.
See, that seems to me to be a case where you've made an error that you should compensate that fighter.
That's what I'm saying.
He should be fully compensated.
You can't force a guy if you made the mistake.
That's like a—I mean, I'm not a business person, but the mistake. That's like, I mean, I'm not
a business person, but if I was a business person,
I'd be like, well, this is a clear case of someone
owing someone money because you fucked up.
But what you saw
I was going to say is it was an investigation. It took us
that long to figure, to get to the bottom
of it. That's the process.
Yeah, but they were wrong, right? So if they were
wrong, so all their investigation
stuff they did that took so long to get to the bottom of,
you accused a guy who's innocent, right?
Yeah, but see, don't they say potentially flagged for PDs, right?
They don't say what you're flagged for, and then it goes into investigation.
But they don't say he's suspended or he testifies for this.
They say potentially flagged,, and there's an investigation.
Then it took a year to figure that out.
I think that the USADA, especially under the whatever guidelines that they had
coming in here, had a lot to work with, right?
There's a lot of fighters.
You've got to figure out who's – you've got to test this one more.
Oh, it's a nightmare.
I mean, it must be crazy.
It must be a nightmare.
I'm not saying it's an easy job.
I think it's too much.
It's a very hard job.
I think it's too much.
I think it is too much, too.
There's 500 fighters on roster.
But a legend like Josh Barnett, he deserves respect.
That's the youngest ever heavyweight champion.
Agreed, Joe.
And he's one of my favorite fighters.
And he's probably one of the smartest men to ever grace the octagon.
He's such a smart dude.
Very, very smart guy.
And I love Josh Barnett.
However, if you're Nowitzki and you look at the history of Josh Barnett, there's a reason
to have skeptical golden snitch eyes on him because he's tested positive previously.
Right.
That's what's going on.
I see what you're saying.
You know what I'm saying?
If you have a track record, I'm going gonna test over him a tad more vitor a tad
more than steep or dc how dare you i gotta just look at dc like no you're good dude how about
you're fucking super unleaded dc dc is 40 years old son dc is 40 years old on the natch with just
some powerful fucking herculean genetics just to get him on that Super sauce kid Bro Get him on that Vitor shit That gives you
Veins in your teeth
Veins in your ears
God damn it
He uh
Vitor
Dude when he was
There was a time
When Vitor was
They had to face off
With him and Rockhold
And you look at Vitor
Like how
It was when he was
Doing the mohawk thing
Dude it looked like
He had a stingray
Hanging off the back
Of his neck It looked like A fucking sting stingray hanging off the back of his neck.
It looked like a fucking stingray was back there.
His traps were like this.
He looked so scary, dude.
And this was even at the weigh-ins, man.
This was when the weigh-ins were the real weigh-ins.
Yes.
Brock told me, he goes, he looked right at him.
He's like, what the fuck is this guy on?
It was just Winstroll coming out of his eyeballs.
Just fucking tears of Winstroll.
It was just testosterone.
It was just whatever they let him take. You think he was on other things was on other things too oh my god i don't know what he was on
it's hard to tell from that picture because he's an actual 185 right there he's very very deflated
it's amazing the difference between some guys like when they weigh in like yoel when he weighs
in at 185 he still looks super ridiculous uber jacked at 185 you
can't believe he only weighs 185 when he gets a good scale but then but then he fucking
I mean he just puts all that meat back on your boy your boy uh Whitaker was like that motherfucker's
yeah I hear his interview he's like he said it was magic he's like it's magic see that man go
from that to that?
And he goes, and also you find him before, and he's aging, and this time he's even harder.
He's like, something's up there, son.
Yeah.
Here's the thing.
Maybe.
But you know what else maybe?
Maybe crazy Cuban genetics.
I think that shit's real.
Could be crazy Cuban genetics.
But how much more impressive, whatever he's on.
Let's say he is on something, Whitaker beat him twice.
Yeah.
There should not be a third fight.
I don't think this decision
was just in the second fight.
No, you're crazy.
I think there should
have been 10 eights.
No.
Under the new rules?
I think it should have
been a draw then.
I don't think Yoel
won that fight.
If you're going to give
Yoel a 10 eight,
then that's a draw.
Yeah.
A draw, I'm fine.
And I don't think
they give draws out enough.
I don't think they do either. Because then they're forced to have that that's what i'm saying
that i'm fine with i didn't think that a decision i thought like there's too many moments in the
fight where yoel hurt whittaker like really hurt him there was no moments in the fight where
whittaker really hurt yoel like really hurt Like, had him in deep trouble. There was one with that head kick that wobbled him a little bit.
Yeah, but man, the head kick was when,
I don't think that even fucking did much.
It wobbled his legs a tad.
A little bit.
But if you go round by round, watch that fight a bunch,
I think...
That actually was a good...
He landed with the foot, right?
Right in the face, top of the head.
Yeah.
But also, you go round by round,
just stylistically, I hadittaker winning three two and i went all right let's say i gave you all
when he fucked him up that i think it was a fourth or fifth i think it was both rounds you had him
in trouble i gave one a 10-9 to you all and then if you give a 10-8 you it would still be a draw
right which i'm fine with which makes more sense to me but i just people have a hard time with
decisions when the guy at the end of the fight is fucking the guy up.
Now, obviously, this is coming from someone who's a professional commentator, so I understand this is a ridiculous argument.
But the ridiculous argument is if we're going to judge what a fight is, we all know if you're watching a fight fight, right?
If you and I are in a fight and you're on top of me beating the shit out of me in the last few seconds when
the cops come in, that doesn't matter.
If I ran around this room and kicked your legs for the first two minutes and then you
got on top of me and were beating the fuck out of me for the last 20 seconds when the
cops came in.
You're talking prison rules, son.
You won the fight.
You won the fight in the streets.
But that's a fight.
But as a professional sport.
I understand, but this is a professional sport that's kind of a fight.
It's not just a box match.
It doesn't matter, though.
So in boxing, if I win the first eight rounds, right, and you're whooping my ass, nine, ten,
eleven, twelve, those first eight, what do we do?
There it is.
It's a good, no, it's a real good point, dude.
It's a real good point.
But the idea is, see, that didn't hardly do anything.
Oh, bro, he was on wobble.
But he was already tired, dude.
Look how wobbly he is already there.
How about the kicks by fucking Whitaker, too?
Whitaker is so good, dude.
And the fact that he fought that fight, most of it, with a fucking broken hand.
He beat him with one hand.
He beat him with one leg the first fight.
Come on.
No, he's phenomenal.
He threw that hand, too.
Oh, he got cooked there again.
No, he was in trouble, for sure.
A couple times.
I had one round of 10-8, so that'd be a draw.
See this right here?
This is a 10-8, man.
This is a 10-8.
Again, even if you give a 10-8, it should be a draw then.
Maybe.
He wouldn't win the fight.
Okay.
I'm with you on a draw.
Two guys are fighting.
It's a close round, but one guy drops him and has him hurt.
Everything up into that moment is close.
I think that's still a 10-8.
Jeez, damn, you're tossing 10-8s out like fucking...
I think 10-8s, it's gotta be, the difference is
someone almost got finished.
This is an almost got finished moment.
The legs go, the person falls, the guy gets on top,
the guard's pounding him.
See, I don't have a problem with 10-9. I think it has to be a clear
fucking bully beatdown
for a 10-8 round.
I think that should be a 10-7. I think we should make this shit make sense.
10-7 game? I mean, fuck it, why even fight? If you're at 10-7. I think we should make this shit make sense Game I mean fucking fighting 10 set of you gotta stop someone fuck. You gotta stop, bro
I really feel like this this scorecard this this 10-point must system is silly the whole thing silly don't the the judging
But the silliness yeah, you're right. We've been we've get that fucking horse
But the numbers like why do we need 10 points just because boxing always had 10 points? They're only using their hands.
They're not even using their elbows.
Just think about all the different things.
What's worth more?
Is a jab worth more than an elbow?
Oh, there's all, yeah.
Yeah, what's worth more?
A guillotine choke that you get out of?
How many points do you get for that?
You've got to figure that out, man.
But it's also predicated off styles, too, because what happens if, let's say I'm Brian Ortega.
Let's take Brian Ortega and Max Holloway. And Max Hollow and max hallway on the feet jabbing good distance control and brian really
can't get it going but then he pulls guard he pulls guard and he's fucking throwing arm bar
triangle leg lock and max is kind of defending but he's in trouble yeah they're not giving that
to brian down there right they don't know shit about the ground game they look at max on top
and go well when it was on the feet, he landed more jabs.
Let's give it to fucking Max.
Yeah, there's moments where a regular guy is on his back and they're right.
Correct.
Like a guy who doesn't have a good guard or a guy who just tries to hang on until the referee pulls him off.
But then there's some dudes who have their guard is like the scariest place to be.
You got to know what you're dealing with.
You got to know the premises.
Do you remember that kid, Paul Sass?
Fuck yeah.
Won so many fights by triangle.
It was ridiculous.
You'd see that guy fight off of his back and be like, whoa, he's moving quick.
He was closing shit up quick.
Dudes didn't know what the fuck was happening.
All of a sudden, they're jacked and triangled.
Dude, how about that Max Holloway, Brian Ortega fight?
That's a great fight.
Greatest fight at 45 since Conor and Aldo. Yeah, how about that Max Holloway-Brian Ortega fight? Greatest fight at 45 since
Conor and Aldo. Yeah, I agree.
I agree. It's such a dangerous
fight for Max. It's a dangerous fight for
both guys. I mean, this is the first, well, for
Ortega, it's not his first time in
world-class territory, right? He had
Cub and he had Frankie. He
won both of them in spectacular fashion.
Finish Frankie. Never
been done before. Never been done before.
But the crazy thing, I thought, just as crazy, maybe more crazy, was the way he finished Cub.
He almost got Cub in the first round.
Cub is a real Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.
And I know that Max finished Cub as well, but Cub was hurt in that fight.
I think he had either a broken jaw or...
Yeah, he went into the fight injured, yeah?
Something was fucked up.
Something, I remember that.
Something went real bad during the fight.
Anyway, all credit to Max.
He did finish him.
But it was the way, when they went to the ground,
Ortega locked up that darts at the end of the first round.
I was like, Jesus.
This is tight.
This was tight, man.
When they went to the ground,
and when he was cinching it up,
and then the buzzer went off, I seconds that fight yeah that fight's over that's fine that was
a tight fucking and he did the exact same thing again he went oh cool cool he just knew he could
do it the thing is his jujitsu is at such a fucking high level he's so dangerous you can't
really train for it either like just just be in the room with Ortega, you've seen triangles.
You've seen arm bars.
The way he sets up, it's so explosive.
And the angles he hits, you can't bring anyone in to duplicate that.
It's amazing.
It's so different.
And what's crazy about Brian is his story.
He's a guy who's not going to go in there and talk shit.
He comes from a super humble background.
And his demeanor inside that octagon when even earlier
in his ufc career when the the it was not going well for him and he found some way to he's finished
all fighters so found some way to get it done and i think it comes from growing up in that rough
background man yeah it doesn't fluster him he's like i just i need something he never gives up
he's like something's gonna come something's gonna come and i think that's huge in this max holloway fight because max distant control is fucking
second to none man it's gonna be tough for brian to get in there i think once brian can get an
underhook i think we're gonna see him jump to half guard something like that it's gonna be
interesting man it's gonna be interesting to see if brian could turn into a jujitsu match but the
thing about brian is he's so comfortable with his hands man. He's getting more comfortable for sure And doesn't train that doesn't have like a super team. Yeah, he's amazing
But Max Holloway dude when I saw the second fight with Aldo the second fight with Aldo
There was some moments in that fight where I was like geez. Oh, he's one of my favorite this dude's on another level
I know but he was overwhelming Aldo like he went into that fight
You know and the basically when they announced the, this is where his phrase
where it started to hit me,
it is what it is.
I love it. That was his attitude
to go fight an absolute future
Hall of Famer who was thought
to be the greatest featherweight of all time.
A guy who, you know, think about
some of his spectacular KOs of
Chad Mendes. I mean, he was
a monster when he was young. How about when
the Cub Swanson flying knee
in WEC? What? Dude.
He was a beast. And for him
to go into that fight and be like it is what it is.
Like it is what it is.
And he just smashed him.
How about he was going to fight fucking
Khabib? Oh yeah.
And if the commission
didn't pull him off the weight cut he would have fought Khabib on like how many days notice?
What was that?
Eight days?
Yeah.
Something like that.
Something fucking crazy.
That's how much of a badass he is.
Super short notice.
I also think the reason why I love this fight and so good for the UFC, especially just for the both of them, is Max and Brian are going to fight multiple times.
I think this is going to become a cool rivalry.
We're going to see them go from 45.
Whoever wins this, I don't really care who.
I love both those men.
I fucking love both those guys.
Whoever wins, I think eventually they're both huge for the weight class.
And Max is younger than Brian.
They're going to go to 55.
Even Max's team goes, he should be a 55er.
He's fucking huge for 45.
Well, you think about how much weight he had to lose to get to 55.
I know.
They pulled him off the weight cut to 55, which is crazy.
55, there's some fight for him.
But I think, and this is great for fighters, man, like with Aldo.
He was never that big until Conor came, right?
And there's this rivalry.
DC, Jon Jones.
Nate Diaz, Conor.
Like there's these rivals.
Ali Frazier.
Misha Ronda.
You know, Holly Ronda. There's all, you know, Holly Ronda.
There's all this stuff starting to happen.
And then people fucking tune in.
So I think for Brian and Max, they don't need to talk any shit.
They just keep being humble.
Their skills speak for themselves.
But people want to tune in for that.
And you're going to get a bunch of fights out of these guys, man.
I think you're probably right.
I'm fucking on my dicks hard about it.
Woo!
I know.
I love it, man.
I get goosebumps talking about those fucking two.
Yeah, they're pretty badass.
It's nice to see just any time you have a guy who's defending his title and you have
a guy who you legitimately think could be a champion.
And you look at the two of them.
I look at that fight and I go, I don't know.
I don't know what's going to happen.
Yeah, I don't either.
It just depends.
If Max makes one mistake, Brian capitalizes on it.
Brian's so dangerous so
dangerous what's interesting to me is when i first met brian years ago and he was in the gym remember
he was mopping mats and just doing his thing and henner would bring him on the road he even goes
on the road now with hen and they teach cops their their tactical stuff and they do these seminars
and he was like henner's little guy and i always took him serious because jitsu was ridiculous and
he trained with me and all the stuff but i never thought best in the world you know I've never like he never I know
yeah like what's up man and I seem when when they told me because I called him for a fight
and then um they go dude UFC's coming calling around I go not yet uh you know I'm cautious
Larry I'm like no no no no please he has to work on his stand-up. Don't fucking let him do it, man.
And then Henner's like, dude, he wants to do it.
And then fucking I was way off.
That motherfucker.
He got good with his hands fucking fast.
He steps up to the level of competition, man.
Well, he definitely does.
But it's also he's so good at jiu-jitsu that he just took whatever that focus is
that got him so good at jiu-jitsu and applied it to striking.
And now he's just a winner.
He knows how to win.
You know what I mean?
He knows how to put shit together.
When he landed that uppercut on Frankie, and I was like, Jesus.
Vicious.
Like, Frankie's a hard guy to fucking hit clean.
What?
Impossible.
Yeah.
Unless you're Gray Maynard.
It's a fucking nightmare.
Well, and even Gray Maynard, he came back and won that fight.
Which was insane.
Which is insane.
Draw in the first fight, chaos him in the second fight.
Those fights were fucking chaos, man.
Some of the best.
But the fact that Ortega took him out,
I mean, some people say,
well, maybe Frankie's at the end of his rope.
He's in his deep into his 30s now.
What is he, 36?
Something like that, right?
36, 34.
Either way, though, it's Frankie Edgar.
Either way, it's Frankie Edgar.
Yeah.
And then he went on to beat Cub Swanson, what,
like four weeks later or some shit?
He's like, no, I'll do that in New Jersey.
Yeah. Yeah.
36.
Yeah.
Just phenomenal conditioning.
Dude, and then also on this card, you got DC fucking Stipe.
To me, it's like the first real, like we're in the super fight era.
To me, this is like the first real, real super fight.
Like GSP, Bisming, I was like, that's cool.
That's a thick ass GSP.
I guess that's super fight.
But DC Stipe is a fucking real super cool. That's a thick-ass GSP. I guess that's super fight. But DC-Stipe is a fucking real super fight, man.
That's a real super fight.
I love it, man.
You know what I'm looking forward to almost as much?
Francis Blackbeast.
That's right, son.
Derek Lewis, Francis Ngannou.
Woo!
I know everyone thinks to me a first-round knockout,
and they're just going to throw Kosh in the wind.
I think Derek Lewis
double legs him
either in the first round
or second round
and beats him via TKO.
Really?
Yeah.
Damn, how good
is Derek's wrestling?
I mean, he's an explosive dude
and he used to play football.
You know?
See, I think people
are making a mistake
going, oh, Derek's just
going to go on there,
Francis is going to go on there
and fucking plant their feet
and just fucking chuck the bombs.
I think you're wrong, man.
I think people think that are wrong.
I think Derek's going to mix it up.
If he's smart, I just, I think what I would do if I was them and what Derek and his background and Francis working on stuff, I think Derek's going to shoot.
The crowd's going to boo, but Derek's going to shoot.
And then his ground pound is fucking nasty. I don't know if the crowd will boo. If it's a good crowd, a crowd that understands the danger of Francis on his back and Derrick
on top, Derrick with big KO power, stop Travis Brown.
I bet they might be thinking, oh shit, this is going to get crazy.
Hopefully.
Because it's not like if Derrick takes you down, he's just going to hold on to you.
He's going to try to kill you.
He's not going to submit you.
No.
He's going to punch you with the right in the fucking face.
That Travis Brown TKO or a KO rather was ruthless.
It's one of the worst ones.
Bisping, Dan Hendo, and then that one for me.
It's like you don't want to see that replay.
Yeah, that was a rough one.
That was a tough one.
And Ganu, man, you got to get to him first.
The thing about getting to him is you're running into hammers.
You got to get to him.
You got to get to him.
You're running into him.
You just got to kind of stay back and then the cardio gets to him. But we only to him. You're running. You just gotta kind of stay back and then the cardio
gets to him. But we only saw him tired once.
But it was a big once. We've only seen him
out of the first round once, right? Yeah.
Stipe figured it out.
That's also Stipe.
I give France a lot of shit, but that's fucking Stipe.
He's the best. The most
accomplished heavyweight of all time. Yeah, I mean,
you have to look at him, his accomplishments.
You look at the guys that he stopped and the guys he defended his title.
Stopped Fabricio wins the title.
Stops Alistair.
Stops Junior Dos Santos.
I mean.
The only reason why Stiebe doesn't get enough credit as he should is because
all those guys are a step past their prime, right?
Like, to me.
Yeah.
And I love Stiebe.
To me, what's more impressive when kane beat
jds that was prime jds who was a motherfucker motherfucker and kane put his fucking head right
in the middle of his chest and did work after getting knocked out in the first round on fox
in the biggest fight in mma history that was Insane. Like that, to me, that's a little more impressive than what
when Stipe beat
JDS. Because that's JDS after
an ass whooping by Kane.
Rounds. It is more impressive.
Ten rounds of an ass whooping, basically. What's almost as
impressive is surviving that first round
against Francis. I don't know who
would have survived. There's not a lot of guys that would
have survived that round the way Stipe did.
DC. DC, man, I wonder. He ate that fucking punch from anthony rumble johnson how about that kick and
pop the fuck back up yeah oh god yeah jesus christ but john ko'd him with that yeah it's john jones
yeah john jones beats everyone we're talking about but maybe see the thing about francis i'm very
curious to see what he looks like no no that's not what i'm saying i'm very curious to see what he looks like in How dare you? No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm very curious to see what he looks like in this next fight.
Because we're going to find a lot about whether or not he's able to correct mistakes, whether
his conditioning is just one of those things with all that fast twitch muscle fiber, whether
he's not going to be able to go five rounds hard.
I don't think he's going to turn into fucking Nate Diaz or something like that.
I think it might be a tad better.
The way he can get better is not using all his energy
on power punches like right so maybe it's more of a experience thing but with derrick lewis he also
pedaled to the metal and hits hard as fuck too he does and he's been in you know he's been in some
serious trouble that travis brown fight like he was in serious fucking trouble man yeah he's uh
he's a warrior for sure i, that guy has been in some crazy
ass fucking fights. Crazy
fights. He's dangerous.
Both are super dangerous.
I mean, he wants that fight, too. Derek
Lewis is asking for that fight. They both wanted it.
They both wanted that fight. This is gonna be crazy.
Super crazy. I think
the craziest thing on the card to me is
how many people are riding off DC.
He's the underdog against Stipe.
Yeah.
I have DC beating him, man.
Do you?
Yeah.
I know you hate pigs, but when I break down the fight, I look at what that terrible picture
makes Stipe look super small and fucking DC look giant.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Look how small Stipe looks.
DC looks like he's a fucking gigantic person.
He looks like Brock Lesnar.
Stipe looks like DJ Dillashaw.
He's like 6'5".
What are they doing?
Stipe looks like a bantamaw. He's like 6'5". What are they doing? Stipe looks like a
bantamweight. It's hilarious.
Yeah, one says 76 inches, one is
71 inches. Now that bothers me, man.
The reach, the height, because DC's
dealt with that his entire career. Gustafson,
Jon Jones, those guys had even bigger reaches.
I think also one thing to take into consideration
is Stipe doesn't throw a lot of
kicks. He's not a big kicker.
Bingo, sir. Yeah, he's more of a boxer.
you know, DC's also going to be able to
get under him easier than any guy's
ever fought before. I mean, DC's, what, 5'11"?
Is he about 5'11"? If that,
yeah. You know, he's gonna, and he
fucking, he has top of the
food chain wrestling, man. Remember what he did to Henderson?
Dude, and Barnett!
Launched barnett in
the air launched him in the air fucking slammed him yeah barnett's a big fella yeah and can grapple
his fucking ass grapple his fucking ass off and dc took him for a ride son but the henderson fight
was the most impressive to me because henderson even though he's smaller than dc he's a fucking
stud and he was an olympic silver medalist himself and d know, man. And DC just ragdolled him.
See, and people go,
I see some people discredit DC a little bit
when they go,
when he won the Grand Prix in Strikeforce,
that was a different time.
Those heavyweights were older
and the games evolved.
When I look at Stipe,
I'm like,
heavyweights haven't really evolved that much, man.
You don't see a guy throwing a lot of kicks
and mixing up wrestling and jiu-jitsu.
You look at Stipe's game,
it's boxing
or wrestling. That's very
similar to what DC's used
to beating. So the times when he's in
trouble is a guy like Jon Jones who
fucking mixes up and he's a fucking nightmare.
But when you're just boxing,
that's what I'm saying. When DC
goes in a fight and you're just boxing
or wrestling,
the reason why DC's going to go down as one of the greatest of all time
is his mental game, bro.
His fucking fight IQ's
crazy.
He's tough as shit.
And if you look,
who else
does it the way John does, where
they're really good at everything? They win
by submission, they win by knockout,
they win by, you know.
Mighty Mouse?
You'd have to go to a lighter weight?
Those are the two, right?
Because even Kane, Kane would do Muay Thai and Kane would for sure wrestle in ground and pound, but he never really submitted anybody.
No.
Kane's thing was wrestling.
Just smash you.
Yes.
Outwork you.
Yeah, outwork you.
Get you exhausted to the point where you never even believed you could be that hard. Embrace the Yes. Yeah. Outwork you. Yeah. Outwork you. Get you to get you exhausted to the point
where you didn't you
never even believed you
could be that.
Embrace the grind.
Yeah.
Which DC has been
training with Kane
forever.
For this fight.
Yeah.
And who is Kane back
now?
Is he training?
Yeah.
He's helping him.
Wow.
So.
So when I look at that
I go right.
Kane style is almost
identical to fucking
steep base but steep
has a little more power
as far as cardio
wrestling. Yeah, Kane's better
at those things, man. Well, Kane was better
than anybody that ever lived for like two years.
Nightmare. Yeah, there was a moment,
I mean, and he just got injured so many
times. There were so many injuries with him.
But like, when you look at what he
was able to do with
real fucking tough guys,
just break them down.
Real tough guys. But, them down. Real tough guys.
But, you know, he's had shoulder surgery, back surgery, knee surgery.
I mean, after a while, everything was just given out because of the force of his will
and his workouts are so fucking tough.
Those guys at AKA, you know, like Dana was giving them a hard time at one point in time
saying something about, you know, that they're always getting hurt.
They win.
But that's how you get killers like Kane.
To get a guy that's got that kind of mind,
he's used to being in that horrible misery
of trying to break someone.
He's used to it.
Does it all the time.
So does DC.
They all do it all the time.
And then DC went, oh, I'll go there and train.
And remember, DC, before he went there,
he trained with us in Denver.
He wasn't that good. You know, DC, before he went there, he trained with us in Denver. He didn't, he wasn't that good.
You know,
obviously his wrestling
was ridiculous,
but he moved there
and then he just
followed suit.
Then you got John Fitch,
you got Kostchak,
you got fucking Khabib.
Khabib.
Luke Rockhold.
Yeah, man.
When Rockhold gets people
on the ground
and smashes them,
when he got Weidman
on the ground
and Weidman was stuck
under a building,
same thing with
Lyoto Machida.
You look at him and you go, oh, David Branch.
Same thing.
Gets you down, and his fucking top game is just murderous.
It's because of who he's training with.
He's training with those guys.
I have friends who watch him train down in Florida, and they were just saying his jiu-jitsu.
They wouldn't give me names.
They said world-class jiu-jitsu guys.
He's fucking up rolling, like just destroying. Noiu-jitsu guys. He's fucking up, Roland.
Like, just destroying.
No, he's a freak.
He's a freak athlete.
He's strong, and he's long.
He's got, like, long leverage, but he's also got physical strength.
He was supposed to fight Gustaf until he hurt his leg.
What happened to his leg?
He got a huge gash in it.
He had staples.
I think he posted it.
It looked fucking terrible.
That would be an interesting thing.
Now you've got Gustaf and Volkan.
No time. No looked fucking terrible. That would be an interesting thing. Now you've got Gustafson and Volkan. No time.
No time, son.
So you think Stipe and DC goes to DC by decision?
Yep.
Think he out-wrestles him?
I just think he out-works him.
I think he out-works him.
And I don't think it's a classic fight.
I just think hopefully more people appreciate DC after this.
I look at both of them.
They both have to embrace the grind thing.
And as long as
DC can avoid that big power punch early on, he's going to be fine. And he's so smart, man.
Well, I definitely think he's really smart, but I also think that Stipe is a really good striker
and he's a bigger guy and he's got a long reach and he's probably one of the best heavyweight
strikers that DC's ever fought. He's got real one-punch knockout power at heavyweight.
He throws clean shots.
He doesn't have any fat in his punches.
He'll stand here like this and drop one in on you.
He has a chin, too.
He eats fat.
It's his best shot.
He's got a chin.
He's tough as fuck.
He loves being champion.
I agree.
You know, he might have a lot to prove here.
And, you know, he doesn't throw a lot of kicks, but it doesn't mean he can't.
He can throw them if he wants to.
If he thinks that's part of the strategy and he wants to throw head kicks.
It'd be cool to see.
Have you seen him kick?
Yeah, I have.
He can kick.
He can kick.
It's the difference between kicking and practicing and pulling off against a world-class guy like DC.
He's a big guy, too, man.
But DC has tendencies, man.
That's why Jon Jones goes, I'm going to knock him out by head kick.
Because if you look at the video, DC's here.
He's down there, man.
He's susceptible to it.
So that's why he sees it.
Did John fake a right hand and then throw that left high kick?
He was setting it up.
He was throwing to the body, throwing to the body, yeah, and then threw it out.
And then you see DC go over and then just whack.
Yeah.
Let's see if you can find that clip of John Jones KOing DC.
Here it is.
Powerful, Jamie.
Oh, man, just landed it perfect. Powerful, Jamie. Oh, man.
Just landed it perfect.
Let me see that one more time.
First one?
Yeah.
You know what's interesting about this?
Go back to the beginning.
Watch this.
Dude, that was beautiful.
The way he did that.
God, I hope Jon comes back.
It was beautiful.
There was no fat in that at all man
it was beautiful
boom boom boom
think how good DC is
and for him to do that
amazing
ridiculous man
smashed him dude
look at this
so ridiculous
damn
he took a couple extra shots there
that he didn't need to take
well there's a lot of
damn
now they're even going back
at it on Twitter.
John Jones.
Here's the perfect case scenario.
If you're Scrooge McDuck and you're sitting down and you're looking at the UFC roadmap,
you're like, we love Stipe.
He's been a great champion.
But if they could plan it like you're fucking Vince McMahon in WWE,
you want DC to win and then John to come back.
And at heavyweight, you have DC, John and then John to come back and at heavyweight
you have DC, Jon Jones fighting for a world
title at heavyweight. And they have Brock going
I got next! Wade in the back going
I got next!
Coo-coo-coo-coo! Ratings, ratings, ratings
ratings, ratings, ratings.
Go and snitch, take a hike.
I like it. Let that sink in.
Another one is, would have
John's suspension last longer than we think?
We're assuming that John's going to get a suspension and he's going to be able to come back fairly soon.
Don't be the no fun, please.
Well, what if Brock comes in and Brock fights the winner of DC and Stipe?
Let's just say DC wins.
I'll take it.
Okay, and DC could beat Brock.
That's an interesting fight.
DC versus Brock is an interesting fight.
It's a great fight.
Brock's got hands as big as his table.
And he can wrestle his ass off.
He can wrestle his ass off.
The question is, can he do it clean at his age?
Because he took like 12 different tests.
What's this clean talk, bro?
We'll figure it out.
Just like the last one.
I think the UFC wants to make that paper.
You got to tell USADA to scram.
Get out of the picture for this one.
Hey, go grab a cup of coffee.
It's Brock and John.
Go grab a fucking cup of coffee.
But here's the thing.
No one's going to ever let that happen.
We're talking trash.
This is nonsense talk.
You're crazy if you think USADA is all clean like the U.S. government or some shit.
What are you saying?
First of all, you think the U.S. government is clean?
I'll call Eddie Bravo right now. That's what I'm saying.
I'll have him on his way over here.
That's what I'm saying.
USADA's like the government, son.
Everything ain't fucking done by the books.
If I'm Dana, I'm like, open up your glove compartment box.
Yeah, man.
You keep that and you keep your greasy mouth shut while these boys come over and punch each other in the face.
Don't fuck up our ESPN deal.
Wow.
And who wouldn't want to see that?
Yeah, maybe ESPN pulls them aside.
Take them into some smoky room.
Sit down there with some Cuban cigars.
What are we doing here?
Fine whiskey.
How long is their deal with USADA?
Do we know?
I don't know.
Do we have any idea?
I don't know.
Because they had to sign a idea? I don't know. Because he had to sign a contract.
I don't know.
I bet there's a countdown in Dana's office just every
day. 364 days.
364 days.
The whole thing is kind of crazy that it's self-imposed.
Right? What are you doing, man?
Well, it's a great move.
To sell. There's the move. Fertitta's so genius. Monster. imposed right what are you doing man well it was a great it was a it's a great move to sell to sell
yeah well there's the move for tita's so genius monster lorenzo's a goddamn genius he figured it
out and you know now he gets to just be a fan with four billion in the bank what what he's like yeah
i know you have to smash a few eggs and make an omelet, man. But it's a great success story because those guys were down $40-plus million in the hole.
Originally, yeah.
Yeah, when The Ultimate Fighter took off.
They had spent, they had lost $40 million.
What's that to them, though?
It's enough.
$40 is $40, but still.
It's enough.
If you lost a couple hundred grand, you would survive, but you'd be like, shit.
I'd be pissed, for sure. You'd be like, shit. I'd be pissed for sure.
You'd be like, fuck, this is not good.
It takes a long time to make that money.
Especially when I get to my boy to run and it's fucking up.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, exactly.
Dude, $40 million is $40 million.
I don't give a fuck who you are.
Well, if I'm a billionaire, I'm going to be like, I don't want that money going away.
I'm still going home to get my dick sucked.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, God, that sucks anyways still going home to get my dick sucked. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh my God, that sucks.
Anyways, let me walk in my giant mansion.
You got to think of how many different businesses they're running at the same time, though.
They had like 20 casinos, 20 plus casinos.
Palace Stations.
They had Green Valley Ranch.
Yep.
They had Red Rocks.
Red Rocks is dope.
Dope.
They just bought out Palms, too.
Dope.
Yeah.
Palms a little run down, but whatever.
The Nine, though.
That steakhouse there.
Oh.
That's one of the best steakhouses in Vegas.
And the Ghost Bar?
The Ghost Bar used to be dope.
That's old school.
I used to do stand-up there.
I've done stand-up at Palms.
In the Ghost Bar?
At Palms.
There's like one of the bars there.
One of the bars downstairs.
There's a Laugh Factory in Vegas, right?
There is now, yeah.
They're trying to bring it back. Dice
is there all the time. I think it's in the
Tropicana. Does that make sense? The laugh factory
in the Tropicana? Yeah, they just opened that comedy cellar.
Yeah, that's in the Rio.
The comedy cellar is supposed to be really good.
Who's running that, though?
Someone we know is running that, I thought.
The comedy cellar? I don't know.
Ian's there a lot, though.
Ian Edwards is doing it doing he says it's great
vegas to me is always a weird vibe obviously you're there during ufc fight we can do your huge
fucking stadiums but i'm saying as far as the crowds usually if it's not ufc crowd yeah it's
a different thing well there's so many things to do first of all right or you can be with slain
dion i could be on ecstasy right now why Why am I here listening to you talk? I could be watching Blue Man Group fucking rolling my ass off.
Why am I here?
There's so many things to do.
Have you ever been to one of those Cirque du Soleil's?
Sure have.
Have you been to Love, the one at the MGM?
Nope, but I've been to Zumanity with a friend and some drugs,
and it was one of the best times ever.
Ever.
Ever.
Ever.
How about when Disney uses those robot flipper things to do a Cirque du Soleil show?
How crazy was that?
I posted this online.
You didn't see it?
I saw this article about Disney's making acrobatic robots.
Dude, these robots flip through the air and land and jump into holes and shit.
In the middle of the goddamn park? These robots
that Disney's making, they're animatronic
robots, but here's what's fucked
up about it. What's to stop someone
from using these and making like a
super warrior with the same technology?
This is all under the guise of Disney!
These motherfuckers, I know what they're doing.
So, look at these things, dude.
That's a robot? That's a robot, son.
Look at this. Look at it swing and look at it things dude that's a robot that's a robot son look at this look at it swing
and look at it let go and tuck perfect and jump into a hole yo dude that's gonna be a killer robot
that we send overseas to fight battles look at that thing fly through the air and boom this is
nuts man i mean this is really insane stuff what the fuck they're doing with this they're gonna
have this like the pixar parade or some shit for the kids? I think they're gonna do this for movies.
For shit like that so that you don't have to
risk the lives of... Stuntman jobs. See ya.
Dude, that is so true. Stuntman.
Oh my god. Cuts.
Tate Fletcher.
Yeah, but Tate's acting.
He'll slide in. He'll be able to make it.
He's still gonna be a character actor. That's true.
He doesn't really do too much CGI
face on that. That's right.
Starts painting faces on there too.
They're not even going to need people for voices.
Half of that movie, Logan, the Wolverine movie,
he wasn't there.
What? There's a video you can
see where they show you how they CGI'd everything.
He wasn't really there for half of it.
They did it very strangely. That movie's depressing
anyways.
If you're a Wolverine fan, I was like, God damn, bro.
He's driving a limo and shit.
Oh, is that what he's doing after it's over?
He's like a limo and fucking Xavier, Professor X, is like in some weird fucking hut dying
and it's hot out.
It'll bum me out, bro.
Don't watch it.
I'm not watching it.
It's like that movie, The Wrestler.
That's terrible.
Yeah, it bumps you out.
Depressing.
X-Men first class all the way.
Anyways.
Yeah, Vegas is weird is what we're getting at, and Disney's trying to take over the world.
Disney's about to work with DARPA.
That's what's going on, son.
That's Boston Dynamics or whatever it is.
What's the company?
Yeah.
Boston Dynamics?
Yeah.
That makes the robots.
Dude, Disney does everything better than everyone.
He's not doing that this show.
It all breaks down.
This is all a robot?
It wasn't even.
It was just a stunt double guy.
What fucking hater released this?
Oh, so the stunt double guy does this?
And then they put him on top of that.
What?
That's so weird.
Him being a...
Oh, look at that.
They just have his face.
So if you can make a robot do all that stuff,
then you could easily just put his face on there.
Whoa.
Hugh Jackman got super jack.
Bro, he's on that VTOR diet for that.
He got so swole.
But why not?
But he doesn't look like that anymore, like in this one.
No, he had to do America's Greatest Showman.
You can't be all jacked singing and shit.
Right.
So they just mapped out his face.
But the thing is, if you see him in this one,
he doesn't look as jacked as he did in like the
earlier ones he's older he's older wolverine which is what he's supposed to be right if his body can
recuperate from anything why the fuck's he aging exactly come on why is he aging like that stanley
come on where he's losing some of his muscle but he's still throwing people through the air like
we're talking about he gets shot recovers right away but his fucking joints hurt his arthritis
is that what's happening? Did he have arthritis?
No.
No, he moves like it these days.
I don't know if he officially does.
I'm just saying it doesn't make sense.
How about they come out with another fucking Spider-Man?
Oh, thank God.
They need a new Spider-Man.
They never want to pay Peter Parker.
Dude.
When Peter Parker starts getting big, they go, yeah, well, guess what?
We're going to reboot it.
They just keep rebooting it.
They keep telling the same story over and over again with subtle differences.
My Spider-Man's Tobey Maguire, you fucks.
You fucks.
Anyone else, kick rocks.
I'll tell you what, though.
The only time that that's worked, though, The Hulk.
Yeah, they've done it a bunch.
They started off with that Australian dude from Chopper.
What's his name?
Eric Bana.
Eric Bana.
He was number one.
Wasn't thrilled about him as The Hulk.
Not his fault. It wasn't his fault. It wasn't the best movie. Eric Bana. He was number one. Wasn't thrilled about him as the Hulk. Not his fault.
It wasn't his fault.
Wasn't the best movie.
Bad script.
And then Ed Norton, pretty good as a Hulk.
Fan of Ed Norton.
I was like, okay, I could buy this.
But then Mark Ruffalo, best Hulk.
Best Hulk.
I believe him.
Me too.
I believe he's really a scientist.
Me too.
I believe he really understands genetics.
Yeah, you gotta do that.
Like Christian Bale's the best Batman.
You're talking about real actors.
I agree.
Sorry, Ben Affleck.
I agree.
How about Michael Keaton was Batman?
Who the fuck casted-
Michael Keaton was a good goddamn Batman.
How are you gonna cast Michael Keaton?
How about this?
George Clooney's Batman too.
He's a fucking Mr. Steel, you're a girl.
I bought George Clooney.
I brought-
Did you?
I didn't buy it for a second.
Oh, when Jim Carrey was the Riddler And then Tommy Lee Jones
Was Two-Face
Those are the best Batmans
When they were like
Oh we need to make this more real
I'm like fuck you
I liked Arnold Schwarzenegger
As Mr. Freeze
Wait a minute
Who was the Riddler
Jim Carrey was the Riddler
When who was Batman?
George Clooney
No
Batman Returns bro
Wow
But Christian Bale
Or Batman Forever
Sorry
Christian Bale is the best one
It's too real Do you know Christian Bale Was Batman. Or Batman Forever, sorry. Christian Bale is the best one. It's too real.
Do you know Christian Bale was Batman only like six months after he was the machinist?
That's insane.
Yeah.
He got super skinny.
Really insane.
He's such a B-side guy.
I mean, he was down to like almost nothing.
He was dying.
He was eating like a can of tuna and an apple a day.
That's insane.
You know what kind of willpower you have to have to let your body literally rot away to
this skinny thing for a movie?
Just for a movie.
You don't have anorexia.
You don't have a disease.
Think how much you love the craft of acting to do that.
Yeah, man.
Everybody trying to be the Joker these days, though.
That's like the big one.
Tony Hinchcliffe.
He's trying.
He wants to be.
Jared Leto went, excuse me, Tony, take a hike.
Tony wants to be the Joker.
Yeah.
So look, he went from that to that.
121 to 195. That's all natural. That's insane. There was another movie in between, I think. Tony wants to be the Joker. Yeah. So look, he went from that to that. 121 to 195.
That's all natural.
That's insane.
There was another movie in between, I think.
Oh, there was?
Yeah.
The Equilibrium.
There's another picture here.
Dude, you're telling me that's not Photoshopped at all on the left?
No.
That's what he looked like.
No, that's what he really looked like.
That is so unhealthy.
Oh, dude, it takes years off your life.
I mean, you're putting unbelievable stress on your organs.
He's such a good actor.
He's a beast.
He's English. You know that? I thought he was Australian. Is he's a beast he's English you know that I thought he was Australian
is he?
I think he's English
is he?
I think so
I thought the best actors were English bro
a lot of them are Australian
they'll throw you for a loop
Jackman's Australian
but Jackman like as an actor
like Christian Bale
watch your words
he does some stuff
Wolverine?
look I'm a fan
don't get me wrong but Christian Bale. Watch your words. He does some stuff. Wolverine? Look, I'm a fan.
Don't get me wrong.
But Christian Bale does some stuff like an American Psycho.
Okay, that's another one.
Dude, he was in The Fighter? When he played Mickey Ward's brother?
Oh my God.
Dude.
He's up and down the whole time.
185, 121, 190, 135, 190, 145.
Him in Reign of Fire, he is bodied the fuck up.
Yeah, so he got down skinny again to play Mickey Ward's brother.
A meth addict, yeah.
Yeah.
I forget Mickey Ward's brother, but his brother fought Sugar Ray Leonard.
Yeah.
This was in between two.
Rescue Don, I don't know.
I never saw that one.
Dude, he's such a beast.
That fucking, that dragon movie was dope for one of them silly, dumb movies.
Which dragon movie?
He was in a dragon movie.
What was the dragon movie he was in?
Wasn't he in a dragon movie with Matthew McConaughey?
What?
It was in the future.
Yeah, everybody had to live underground.
Did you do all the drugs?
I did them all.
They had to live.
That was it.
Reign of Fire.
Oh, Reign of Fire.
With dragons?
Yeah, that's the dragon movie.
I've never heard of that.
That's where Reign of Fire is. Oh, damn. There's a dragon movie. Yeah, Matthew McConaughey's jacked in of Fire. Oh, Reign of Fire. With dragons? Yeah, that's the dragon movie. I've never heard of that. That's where Reign of Fire is.
Oh, damn.
There's a dragon movie.
Yeah, Matthew McConaughey's jacked in that movie.
Oh, man.
Super jacked.
See, he got super skinny for Dallas Buyers Club when he had AIDS.
Yeah, he did it too.
He's another one.
Yes.
See if you get a picture of Matthew McConaughey jacked.
Dude, I heard rumors about Tom Hardy.
Shirtless.
Matthew McConaughey shirtless, Reign of Fire.
See, right right there that picture
where he's got a vest on
look how jacked he looks
damn
yeah he was jacked
for this movie
I've never heard of that movie
it's a dumb movie
is it
is it bad
it's just dumb
it's so dumb
it's entertaining
it's silly
you know
these dragons
fuck everybody up
and you know
dude remember how bad
I used to hate on dragons
until I watched
Game of Thrones?
I would clown on all you guys for watching dragons.
I watched Game of Thrones.
That dragon burns, spoiler, you fuck,
it's been out for nine years.
He burns that fucking frozen wall.
I'm talking standing ovation.
I was in the middle of my living room slow clapping.
Those dragons are fucking scary.
The one turns into a fucking white walker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Woo.
Make it dig hard.
It bends and his eye just goes, and it's a white walker eye.
Everybody who works on that show, listen to me.
Don't ever cancel it.
Just keep going.
It's over, bro.
You're never going to do anything better than that.
It's the greatest show of all time.
I know.
I don't know what you're thinking.
Just write some new episodes.
Figure out some new shit.
It's the greatest show of all time.
They just rap?
No! They rap? No!
They rap?
No, they'll be back
God damn, look at that Mr. Stewart
Damn
Matthew McConaughey jacked
Jacked
He's jacked
I feel like for me to get that
Skinny and thin
I would have to go on some
I'd have to get some role
Like Dallas Buyers Club
Look at that one right above that
Right above that
Right above your cursor
Right there
Right there
Someone different
Oh, who's that?
That's Bradley Cooper.
Bradley Cooper, bodied up too, son.
Look at him.
But wouldn't you do all the steroids to play these roles?
I think they call me to be Batman.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, let me go down to Gold's Gym and see what I can do.
Yeah, you would have to.
You would have to.
You'd have to go on the carnivore diet, drop your body fat down.
Why wouldn't you, though?
Yeah, intermittent fasting.
Yeah, just the whole.
Cryo every day.
Yes.
It would be training camp.
Get shredded.
Be training camp.
You would want to have that scene where you're putting on your fucking outfit and you're just talking.
Oh, I'd be like, we need more scenes where I'm shirtless.
How hard I work for this shit.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Deadpool shit.
Oh, Ryan Reynolds?
Ryan Reynolds.
Is that Ryan Reynolds?
Yeah, that's Blade.
That's Blade.
Blade 3.
That's Ryan Reynolds in Blade 3.
But who's that guy? Not this. This is just another Blade. That's Blade. Blade 3. That's Ryan Reynolds in Blade 3. But who's that guy?
Not this.
This is just another guy.
That's next level.
See, that's what you got to try for.
That's what you got to try for.
No one ever tries for that.
Dude, chicks don't dig that, though.
Other dudes dig that.
Shut in your fucking mouth.
Other dudes.
We dig that.
Shut in your fucking mouth.
You ask girls, they're like, no, I don't like fucking.
Yeah, they say that because they're trying to make you feel better.
Oh, my God.
I think it's so gross.
I like guys that are soft, like you.
I like to grab your back and feel all fat.
Look at Ryan Reynolds with his fucking Apex.
No, bro.
Disgusto.
Not Ryan Reynolds.
Oh my God, get away.
I mean, I definitely don't want his dick in my mouth.
Eat up, babe.
I'd like to feel a little belly fat on my nose.
Get a full rack of ribs.
Now, fuck, end the shake.
Watch it down with the shake. Watch it down the shake.
I like a man who's just relaxed like me and doesn't want to do much.
That's what I like.
Please, dude.
They're trying to make you feel good.
They're trying to make you feel good.
I'm pretty jacked.
All I'm saying is-
I'm not saying you are fat.
We're both fat compared to that guy.
Dude, both of us are fucking Adele compared to that guy.
I'm saying that's unrealistic.
That's too much. Oh, someone has body image issues. guy. I'm saying that's unrealistic. Like, that's too much.
Oh, someone has body image issues.
No, I'm saying that's too much. You're like one of them girls that complains about chicks with little waists and big tits.
Oh, my God.
I have body image issues.
Oh, no, I appreciate men more than people think I'm gay.
I appreciate so many men.
I have body image issues because of these women that are unattainable.
They have these unattainable bodies.
That's not real.
And it's fucked up.
You're putting a standard on women.
That's not real.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had a friend once. I had a friend once that said this.
She was talking about someone's girlfriend.
She's like,
I just wish she had a real girlfriend,
like a real woman.
I go, what are you talking about?
And she's like, look, look who he's dating.
It's a typical pretty girl with blonde hair
and a nice body.
Why doesn't he have a real girlfriend?
I go, what is a real girlfriend?
That's so crazy.
People are real people.
You're hating on someone because they're attractive?
Because it's not you.
Yeah.
Why would you assume that she's not super nice and really friendly and really smart?
Because you're prejudiced.
Because you're just looking at her and deciding that you're hating.
Now, is she a dumbass?
Probably.
But does that matter?
You know what I'm saying?
It does not matter. It's all right. She might not be as smart as you. How much Now, is she a dumbass? Probably, but does that matter? You know what I'm saying? It does not matter.
It's all right.
She might not be as smart as you.
How much of that is her fault?
This is as I've gotten older and wiser, even when I meet dumb people.
I'm like, how much of it is really their fault?
Maybe they're just not into that stuff.
Maybe they just got a bad roll of the dice with life and with genetics and the whole ball of wax.
Sometimes a bad roll of the dice is you're genetically
gifted if you're a girl or a guy
and you look super pretty and things come easy to you
and you never have to read a book or get
balls deep into a sport or something like that.
And that's, to me, that
can be a curse. Yeah. Dude, there's a
curse to that because then things get easy.
Like you want your daughter, she don't want to be tens.
You want them like sevens.
Strong sevens. Strong sevens.
Strong sevens.
There's certain guys' types, but they still got to educate themselves.
You don't want them to blow out asses and big titties.
You want them just like, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
You don't want Nicki Minaj as your daughter.
And that ten, the ten's a sprint.
Seven is an ultra marathon.
Yeah, to me, they have a long road.
Seven can stay a seven for many, many, many years many years it's all good especially like age and our black go to the gym yeah they
could hang in there but they gotta work for it like you don't want to just give it to them you
know what i'm saying the problem with some tens that go to eights can't handle it well even when
they're eights they're still hot but in their mind but in their mind they're not anymore and
they get really freaked out by it but no testarossa it was hot in the 80s they're eights, they're still hot but in their mind, but in their mind, they're not anymore and they get
One old testarossa it was hot in the 80s. They're so hot. They were tens
This one they had the gated shifter. Yes, you drive one now you're like what the fuck is going on Oh stupid Fred Flintstone car. I think do I have to get out and do this?
No, but meanwhile, they're worth like a million dollars or something. I tried buying one. Yeah
But meanwhile, they're worth like a million dollars or something stupid. Yeah, I tried buying one.
Yeah?
Did you?
I wanted one.
I go in these weird fucking...
I almost bought a DeLorean the other day.
I knew a lady who had an old Ferrari.
She bought an old Ferrari.
In like 2015, she bought like one that was the one from Magnum PI.
Oh, the 364?
Is that what it is?
I think so.
It's a cool little car, but it was just always breaking.
That's a problem.
You know, those things, they're just not going to, it's not, you can't drive across country
in that car.
No.
Not if somebody's been driving it every year.
Yeah.
They'd be fun though.
I'd love to have a bunch of cars.
I would like to have a bunch of cars too.
You do have a bunch of cars.
Oh yeah.
Don't jump into this conversation.
I'm still hustling.
Don't try, hey, don't try to relate to me on this.
Dude, you're fucking hustling your ass off. But you have all the cars. I don't hustling. Hey, don't try to relate to me on this. I'm hustling too, dude. You're fucking hustling
your ass off, but you have all the cars.
I don't have all the cars. You know what I've been
getting into, man? Old, plain-looking
BMW M3s. Like an
E46 M3. Oh, wow.
Alright, I'm down for that. Stealth. Dude, get
an 8 Series with that
V12. Maybe, but I'm talking about old
cars. I'm talking about like a 2005.
Me too. That 8 Series, I'm talking like 1994, bro. Those are gross. V12. That's but I'm talking about old cars. I'm talking about like a 2005. Me too.
That 8 Series, I'm talking like 1994, bro.
Those are gross.
That's when the lights go up.
Yeah, that thing's sick.
That's where I draw the line, when the lights go up.
Can't do it, son.
Testarossa of the BMW.
You like the 95 3 Series?
Yeah. When they came in that canary yellow?
I did.
I did like those.
I like the ones with the big wing in the back.
Yeah, those are cool. The M3 the big wing in the back yeah the m3
with the wing on the back everyone loved those tiny ass little car too man you go near those
cars today they don't make anything that small anymore or not no bmw doesn't at least look at
that those white lights on the side so you're that's a dope looking that's an e36 right that's
an e36 bmw yeah um google uh silver e46 bmw you're thinking about getting one of those i'm thinking out of
all the cars i know right well that's your style i guess yeah are you gonna buy it to run into
look at that look at that i like that you know what i like about that that's not that that's
not a 95 yes it's 2005 what i like about that yeah that's not 2005 yeah it is that's an e46
the back's different yeah no not so what they look like that's, yeah. That's not a 2005. Yeah, it is. That's an E46. The back's different.
No, not what they look like.
That's an M3.
That's exactly what it looks like.
I'm a fan of the model.
It's a very plain looking car.
But you know what some people do with those?
They just juice the shit out of the engine and change the suspension.
And the thing about it, it's a light, small car that moves well.
I think that car probably only weighs about 3,000 pounds.
Google how much does a 2005 BMW M3 weigh.
Those old Porsches are light as fuck too, though, man.
Just Google how much does it weigh.
What does it say?
The weight?
I mean, we could go by 10 of these right now, Joe.
No, no, no.
3,400 pounds.
So that's pretty light in comparison to like a new one.
I bet the new ones are 300 or 400 pounds heavier than that.
That's a big deal.
The new ones are way faster.
Way faster.
Way faster.
Way faster.
Way cooler.
Let's be real.
But they take these and they put crazy engines in them.
Oh, they blow them out.
Juice them up.
Because it's a smaller car
that's one of the original like cars i remember kids just fucking jacking up with a big exhaust
on you buy the shirts do you ever see a kid that spends so much money on a really shitty accord
and puts crazy civic i mean bro just because they sell it at pet boys doesn't mean you have to put
it on the goddamn car why do you have all that shit all over the car? What are you doing and why? And it was so loud.
I'm like, car's not even fast.
Yeah.
It's...
They have that horrible four-cylinder drone.
Oh, dude, that's fucking nuts.
Those kids thought they were so cool.
Well, I guess it's cooler than the car as it is.
No, probably not even.
Because what it is is just transportation.
You're supposed to just accept what it is.
It's peacocking.
Yeah.
Like, look at this.
And the girls are like... Again, you're not doing that for girls. You're doing that just accept what it is It's peacocking Yeah Like you're like Look at this And the girls are like
Again you're not doing that for girls
You're doing that for dudes
Exactly
Other dudes are like
Yeah that's pretty cool
Girls are like
What the fuck is that thing
Yeah look at that
Honda Civic
Nothing makes my dick go limp like that
Like a Civic
They can make those things fairly fast though
Can't they
Yeah I just thought
The SI one you're talking about
Yeah
What is that Ford Focus GT?
Is that that little tiny car that's supposed to go fast as fuck?
Yeah.
That's a tiny little car, right?
You want something like that, though.
You want that Subaru WRX STI.
The Ford, yeah.
How much does that thing weigh?
That's a tiny little car, right?
That thing looks like shit.
right that thing looks like shit 3,200 pounds is a tiny little car bro dude you brought up 95 BMWs Ford Focuses and civics well you know man you know I have
that white car the the white 911 RS. Fuck yeah.
That car ruins me for everything else because it's so light.
That car only weighs 3,000 pounds.
That thing's insane.
Ruins me for everything else.
Nothing else fun to drive?
Everything's fun.
I love cars.
That thing is just a different animal.
It's like the difference between like a dog and a cheetah like one of them was like dogs
run pretty good they do a pretty good job but then you get cheated like Jesus
what but what if you got a dog what if yeah that's a weird but what if you got
a 911 T what how lights a 911 T and then soup the send it to shark works just to
blow the ass out the front oh one of the new ones you mean yeah yeah things light
as fuck they're very light yeah the 911 teaser, I'm sure they could do something like that.
Yeah, because they don't even have, you know, they don't even have a handle.
They have nothing.
They have no back seats.
They're super light.
Yeah.
What did they get them down to?
I forget, but.
Is it GT3 weights?
I want to say they're lighter, aren't they?
They have a GT3 touring package.
I want that thing so bad.
Yeah, so it's GT3 without the crazy wing and it just, because most of the people are not taking them on a track. You're just driving a fast car around town. I'm 35. I can that thing so bad. Yeah, so it's GT3 without the crazy wing and it just because most of the people are not taking them on a track.
You're just driving a fast car around town.
I'm 35. I can have that thing.
So the GT. 3200.
Is this the GT3 or is this the T?
That's the T. 3200. That's pretty
goddamn light. For a Porsche? Yeah.
0-60 for 3.4 seconds.
Yeah, but you can soup that fucking
thing up. Yeah. I wonder.
What is the horsepower?
What does it say?
See, what they're doing with, yeah, that's a 370.
That's not even the S engine.
No, man.
That's the regular engine.
They're all turbo now, though.
Go to 911 GT3 Touring.
I bet that's just as light, but that's got like 500 horsepower.
Dude, that's my next ride, I think.
Whoa.
I either want that or a McLaren, man.
Well, you have that GTS, which is a very fast car, too.
It's fucking great.
There was a big article about one of those recently.
I know.
People, they say it's one of the best daily driver's Porsche. Wow, that's 3,100 pounds, son.
Bro, 500 horsepower, 3,100 pounds.
That thing must be amazing.
This is what I want to do.
I want to get a Touring.
I want to order it.
I want it in that mint green.
Look how pretty that is.
They just nailed that shape.
You know, I love, it's one of the more interesting things about cars is just the physical shapes,
like what they've managed to make iconic.
Like the Porsche is such an iconic shape.
They don't need to do anything.
They'll do little subtle changes to the back and the exhaust.
That doesn't bother me.
Yeah, they just keep kind of tweaking it a little bit, but they keep that shape.
Like every 911 looks like a 911.
Like if you look at a 2019 Mustang and then you look at a 1965 Mustang, you're like, how do I know this is the same thing?
I know.
You can barely tell this is the same thing.
know this is the same thing. I know.
You can barely tell this is the same thing. But you could have a 911 next to, like, you could have
that 964 that's
like a 91 next to a
2019, and you can go, oh, I see.
They're both 911s. 100%.
Yeah. That's the only car that I can think of
like that. Because old Ferraris
don't look like new Ferraris at all.
Not at all. I guess the new
Challengers look like a little bit like the old Challengers.
Yeah. A tad. Yeah, they retroed it out a little bit.
Camaros, they're trying to go back to it.
Camaros did like a new take on it.
The newest ones even.
Look at that.
Oh, son.
Come on.
Come on.
That is a GT3 RS in all green.
Seinfeld gets like those and shit.
That's an amazing car, man.
That car's more than 500 horsepower.
I think that thing's got 520.
And they're so light
and just designed for track.
You like that?
You think you're a dickhead
for driving around town?
Oh yeah, for sure.
Lime green,
of a lime green car
that says GT3 RS on it.
Dude, mine says GTS
and it's fucking hot orange.
You should only wear
a golf club shirts
from exclusive golf club
Golf clubs that no one could join if you try that and then have those loafers on with no socks
Just smell like
Just in the shit. I should smell like
What's that? What is it called when you pass down money to your kids? They have one of those accounts?
What about sounds trust funds? Yes, it. You smell like a trust fund.
I'll tell you what, man.
All the handicaps you get in life, one of the biggest handicaps you get is a trust fund.
There's something that happens to kids, at least most of the ones that I've ever heard
of, not just security, but a large income just given to them by their parents.
Where they don't have to work on it?
Yes.
You know, I read a statistic the other day.
It's like they're 400% more likely to die before the age of 40 when they have that much money.
Jesus Christ.
400%.
400%.
400%.
I know a couple people that have had one of those deals where they had one of those.
And did you like them?
No, they were a mess.
They fucking sucked.
They felt, I felt sad for them.
I know.
They felt like they weren't really done like if you're an
egg and you still got that gooey stuff on top it's like it's not quite done rich kids are counting on
inheritance to pay for retirement well off young people hold on where you going well if young people
say they need money from relatives and friends to guarantee their golden years stay golden
see that's just clickbaity that's just click-baity. No, that's bullshit.
That's just some click-baity shit.
I just saw this article the other day.
You guys just mentioned it.
It's like 63% of them or something.
Oh, 63% of affluent children between the ages of 18 and 22 say financial stability retirement
will depend on inheriting money.
You know, it's just, that's one of the things that Tim Kennedy said when he was on the podcast.
He said, hard times make hard men, hard men make easy times, easy times make soft men.
Preach, Tim Kennedy.
To preach.
But what do you do with your kids?
Like, my kids grow up in Santa Monica.
Martial arts.
For the girls, you think they're going to be balls deep in martial arts until they're like in ninth grade? No, no, no.
Just to get, I think you've got to get a certain amount of actual hard work in your life.
I think martial arts is going to do that for them.
I think there's something to it.
There's something to goal, like valuing goals and to working towards things and then being
in difficult situations.
Well, you could say sports, though.
Sports, yes.
Sports in general.
Yes, for sure.
I think all sports.
But I think martial arts in particular it's more personal like when someone strangles you when someone
gets your back and then sinks that fucking body triangle on you and you're fighting it off and
then they get you and you have to tap that's very personal you'll get humbled for sure but most
people don't deal with those kind of things in life i think the experience of dealing with those
things in life is very valuable because you can relax more. You can relax more. You know, there's some people-
Confidence.
Yeah. Well, it's not just that. You've experienced bad things. Bad things in terms of like
bad defeats, losses, getting smushed, having to tap. There's a lot of people that have never,
like how many times you ever roll with a guy that never rolled before? And the moment you start
rolling with them, you get them on his back and they start hyperventilating and panicking.
They panic because they've never been there before.
Professional football players, basketball players I've rolled with, they get down like, oh, shit.
Oh, no.
They realize they can't get up.
And then you start closing the gap on them.
Here's the problem.
My only problem with martial arts, if you're just going to go down that road, is when you're in that dojo where the fuck you're doing the martial arts when they leave they know that's there not many people have seen it right
like if you and i are rolling and we don't know each other you tap me out i leave there not too
many people see it the other class might see it when you're professional sports and we're playing
basketball or football and the game's on the line and i get embarrassed because i drop the ball or
i whiffed and struck out and the entire audience sees it and I have to deal with that and then come back from it and be like, all right, I can deal with this, man. I've,
I fucking struck out. I play a game next week. Right. I got to go through class. People can
make fun of me. I'll figure this out. To me, that builds a little something different.
Yeah. It's also teamwork, right? That's a big part of life. Yeah. Part of life is being able
to work with other people. Yeah. Being able to perform under pressure.
But also facing that adversity and knowing.
Because if you tap me out, when I go to school, no one knows that.
That's true.
It's whatever.
When my class knows I threw an interception, like, fuck, shopped through that interception,
man.
That's true.
Everyone's like, dude, what happened?
You're like, I know.
I know.
Wait till Friday.
We'll see what happens Friday.
Oh.
Yeah.
Bill Buckner had to leave Boston.
He had to go in like fucking... He had to go into hiding.
Yeah.
The ball went between his legs.
Everybody freaked out.
Dude, I remember people walking around.
People were walking around the neighborhood while that was like...
Trying to find him.
Kicking the snow and angry.
They were just so angry.
People were leaving their houses.
It was like there was reports of it all over Boston.
That people would just slam. They couldn't deal
with it anymore. They would just slam the
car, the front door rather, and just walk
out into the street. Like, what the fuck?
Everybody out there smoking, looking at each other
like, how the fuck did he drop that ball?
Imagine you'd be that guy.
Tragic. Look, all of it
is rough. I think sports are definitely great
for kids, for anybody developing.
Even for adults, I think they're good.
I think competition's good.
The problem with people is they,
they,
they,
they get nervous about trying new things or doing things.
Or,
and I think one of the things that gets you over nerves is having done difficult shit before.
And one of the things about jujitsu is that that's such a claustrophobic feeling.
Like when you're,
when you're locked up in a triangle and you're just trying to get like a hand in there to protect you just just try and you're
feeling the squeeze you know like fuck i might have to tap and you try and you make your way
out of it that being able to do that in your life like knowing i've been in a bad spot before
knowing i've been someone's been on top of me before and i didn't think I'd get up I think it's a very valuable thing for people to experience
and I think it's a good thing for people to learn like it if you could start out
as a white belt and just deal with that stuff that you get up until like blue
belt and purple belt we start developing some skills and putting some taps on if
you can get through that man you can get through anything a guy can get to purple
better a girl can get to black belt or brown belt.
Those people, that man, that woman that can get that far, they can do a lot of shit.
Goddamn, bro.
That a lot of people can't do.
For sure.
For sure.
For sure.
I think giving your kids that opportunity is a massive thing.
And I know your kid's going to learn how to fight.
How the fuck is your kid not going to learn how to fight?
Already it's an issue.
Because I watch a lot of fights.
So when I come in the house, right when I get home today,
because he sees all the fighters, boxers, and UFC guys,
they fight with their shirts off.
When I walk in, he goes, Papa, Papa.
He takes his shirt off and goes, Papa, Papa.
I'll show you a video of him hitting mitts.
I'm like, I don't know what to do.
Encourage him.
Yeah, kind of.
Tell him you don't have to fight, son. Daddy encourage him. Yeah, don't you tell him not don't you don't fight son
He only does it with any made good. Yeah, he only does it with me
Podcast you're not getting hit
Daddy's on the road
But like you seen Eddie Bravo's kid do martial arts, yeah, dude seen Henners
I haven't that motherfuckers on a teddy bear Kenner just post
He's on a teddy bear doing like arm bars on teddy bars on teddy bears. And he's, you know.
Eddie does drills with his kid.
He posts videos of drills he does with his kid.
His kid is learning the system.
I think that's good.
Fuck yeah.
His kid's going to be an assassin.
You know what kind of jujitsu Eddie Bravo's kid's going to have?
Pretty gnarly.
Because he's around his kid all the time.
Eddie is a diligent father.
He loves being a dad.
Here's Kenner's little boy.
This is Kenner's kid. He gets the mount. Look Here's Henner's little boy. This is Henner's kid.
He gets the mount.
Look at this shit.
Look at him.
That is hilarious.
He takes the back.
Look at that.
He's like two and a half, I want to say.
That is hilarious.
This kid is taking the back at two and a half.
That is so funny.
Crazy horse, get on his back.
That is hilarious.
He is the best teacher in the world.
Of course.
Yeah.
That's amazing. No one explains it better than the world. Of course. Yeah. That's amazing.
No one explains it better than Henner.
I think Henner, too.
This is like his biggest pupil in terms of jujitsu.
I mean, obviously, Ronda Rousey was his most famous pupil.
Look at that arm bar that kid's got.
That's amazing.
Ronda had an arm bar before she got there.
She did.
Exactly.
But Brian Ortega has everything.
He's got everything.
He can choke you.
He can take your back.
He can fight you off his back.
Brian came in there and didn't know anything.
He was a tough gang member wannabe.
Well, I shouldn't say wannabe.
He was a tough gang member from the streets.
Couldn't afford it, so Henner took him under his wing.
That's amazing.
And now he's the number one featherweight in the world, not named Max Holloway.
That's amazing.
Such a cool story.
Henner's such a good instructor, man.
I love listening to him talk, too.
He's so enthusiastic.
He's contagious.
I agree.
He does those videos online.
He could sell anything.
We're going to make watermelon juice, guys.
Come on.
We're going to do it.
You're like, okay.
Watermelon juice.
I've had a lot of coaches since I was a very young kid, and I've never had anyone as far
as a better coach than Henner Gracie.
Wow.
I know, man.
They're from the source, man. I mean, think about that. Yeah, gracie wow i know man they're from the source man
i mean think about that yeah but there's a lot of there's a lot of those guys from the source but
they just they're not they're not henner and all those guys are great but as far as like as far as
egos and just being like a cool like you can hang out with henner anywhere and he's like a great
time that's awesome and he knows a thing or two about everything like he's like you say surfing
and he has a black belt in surfing.
Fruit.
Didn't he open up his own place now?
He has his own jiu-jitsu place? Yeah, they left his dad's place. They went right up the street.
Now him and his
Huron. Huron? Yeah. Oh, that's amazing.
Where's that at? It's right up the street.
It's still in Torrance. Very close.
The facility's ridiculous. Is the old place still open?
Torrance place?
I'm not sure.
I don't know the details on that, but I know Henner and Huron are doing their own thing now, and they're killing it.
That's awesome.
Yeah, dude, it's very lucrative in Southern California.
Think about how many jiu-jitsu schools.
Especially if you're, I mean, Henner and Huron.
Top of the food chain. But as far as business mind, too, that's what makes Henner so special.
His business mind is insane.
Yeah.
He started the Gracie University. That was all his all his concept is it really he came up with that well listen for
someone who lives in the middle of the country that's a great thing i mean it's not as good as
being instructed by him of course not but if you live in the middle of the country and you don't
have access to other instruction that is a great note in wyoming or some shit and you can go online
is that a real place snowed in my well? Well, if you're Snowdon. Oh.
You know what I'm saying?
Sounds like a town, though.
Sounds like a nice place.
It does.
Like a ski resort.
I know.
Snowdon?
You ever been to Snowdon?
Oh, yeah.
We go to Snowdon every year with the McGraws. I love Snowdon.
Yeah, we fly.
Snowdon.
We fly together.
We drink cocktails.
It's amazing.
Snowdon.
We're going to Snowdon.
I'm going to wear my fur.
I don't care.
I'm wearing my fur for PETA.
It sounds like a legit place.
Yeah.
It does.
Have you ever been to Wyoming?
I've been to Wyoming.
Yeah.
Dude, I just went to Idaho for the first time.
I was just in Boise.
Oh, you met the Black Rifle guys.
My best.
Great guys.
How great is he?
They're all great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They were awesome.
Did you go hunting with them or no?
No.
No.
No.
Hunt with those motherfuckers.
Okay.
They hunt humans, but yeah, hey, that's not
I'm just saying it's again on the humans. You can hunt fucking elk
Yeah, a lot of those guys who used to hunt humans become hunters. It helps them sort of cope with society
They also have you know have a special skill set. Yeah, there's a little bit of that good with the guns
Not even with just guns a lot of them get into bow hunting. Oh, yeah a lot of them I figured you and Matt would get along. Yeah, great guy. Great guy, right? Yeah, and the a little bit of that. They're very good with the guns. Not even with just guns. A lot of them get into bow hunting, in fact. Oh, yeah. A lot of them.
A lot of veterans.
I figured you and Matt would get along.
Yeah, great guy.
Great guy, right?
Yeah, and the coffee's badass, man.
It's delicious shit.
I got my own coffee coming out.
I know.
That's what I heard, kid.
I know.
Black Rifle Coffee, Brendan Shop version.
What are they calling it?
The Big Brown Blend?
Big Brown Coffee.
It's my own brand.
How about Big Brown Blend?
I like that, too.
It's the Big Brown Coffee Co.
I like that, too.
Big Brown Coffee Co.
Black Rifle, yeah.
Nice. Your own brand? I know. Damn, son. I know, man. Branching out. I know. You like, with the Big Brown Coffee Co. I like that, too. Big Brown Coffee Co. Black Rifle, yeah. Nice.
Your own brand?
I know.
Damn, son.
I know, man.
Branching out.
I know.
You like, what are those things?
Entrepreneur.
Yeah.
I guess.
Like a fucking boss businessman type character.
What's up, man?
Fuck.
What's up, dog?
But Idaho was nice?
Dude.
They said the show was fucking great.
It was really fun.
It was a big ass place.
It's beautiful outside.
Yeah.
It's where the UFC is.
UFC's there in July.
What card is that?
That's Junior Dos Santos versus...
He's fighting that Russian character.
Who's he fighting?
Volkov?
No, not Volkov.
No.
That's the fucking fight.
Forgot about Volkov.
I know.
Volkov's the darkest of Dark Horse.
Ivanov.
Ivanov.
Wasn't he the guy that was the Bellator champion at one point in time?
No, that's Volkov, bro.
No, but I think he was first.
So, yeah, Blagov, Ivanov.
Blagov, Ivanov.
Ivanov, yeah.
Blagoy Ivanov.
I think he was, just Google him.
I think he was either a him. I think he was
He was either a World Series of Fighting Champion might be that it's not I think you're right on World Series That's not Bella tours, is it?
Maybe World Series of Fighting
Let's see. Oh, he's world series. He's World Series of Fighting. Yeah, he's a tough motherfucker. That guy's a crazy story, too
He was stabbed and he almost died. See if you can find that story. It's a it's a tough motherfucker that guy has a crazy story too um he was stabbed and he
almost died see if you can find that story it's a it's a crazy story god they're doing jewish no
favors he was stabbed i think more than once i'm pretty sure this is the guy but just just google
his name and stab sure you're not talking about darren till no no no no darren till as well i
mean lee murray as well. Everybody can stab.
Yeah, a lot of people got stabbed.
Everybody can stab.
But I think he got stabbed.
The heart.
Yeah, he got stabbed in the heart.
God damn.
No, I'm serious.
Let me see his-
Bellator is-
You see, he did fight in Bellator too.
Ivano reportedly stabbed in the heart, clinging to life support.
Right.
Yeah, so this was like 2011.
What year was this?
2012.
Let's see.
He's World Series A fighting champion
He's so good with shit
That I shouldn't even know
Um
Yeah
He got stabbed in the heart
So he fought for Bellator
And then he went over
To World Series
And now he's in the UFC
And his first fight
Is Junior Dos Santos
Damn
No that's not his first fight
No
I feel like he's fought already
In the UFC
No way
That's his first fight Is it? Okay So that's his first fight. No. I feel like he's fought already in the UFC. No way. That's his first fight.
Is it?
That's his first fight for sure.
I must be thinking about the World Series of fighting.
Yeah.
That's his first fight.
Because he fought Josh Copeland in the World Series.
He's a tough motherfucker, this guy, though.
Very tough.
Tough.
It depends what junior we get, you know?
Right.
And this is a junior that also had a USADA scare.
Something happened with him, but then they let him off the hook, right?
We never hear... Right? To me, that's the problem with USADA is they go, Something happened with him, but then they let him off the hook, right? I don't, we never, right?
To me, that's the problem with USADA
is they go, this guy flagged,
but then if they get, you know, proven innocent,
there's no big write-up,
there's no big announcement.
Like, there should be a fucking siren
Maybe he didn't get proven innocent.
Maybe it was, wasn't it diuretic
or something like that?
Yeah, it was diuretic.
Maybe he didn't get proven innocent.
I mean, when was the last time he fought?
Maybe he just hasn't.
It's been a fucking grip.
Was it Stipe?
Yeah.
Stipe was last fight?
How long ago was that?
May of last year.
It was a good fight.
So how much time do you get suspended?
It depends what you're up to.
Six, 12 months, right?
Depends what you took.
Right, but if you're going to take a diuretic, is it the same as taking juice?
No.
If you took a steroid, you get longer, right?
Yeah.
Hmm.
It's all weird, man.
It's super confusing, right?
It's almost like what they say about the Tour de France.
Tour de France.
Notice how I pronounce it like Brian Callen would?
Dude, I appreciate that.
Tour de France.
Tour de France.
They say that it's healthier actually to do that with drugs than it is to do without drugs.
It's so brutal on your body that when they take-
Tour de France?
Yeah.
Don't you think fighting's the same way?
Yes.
Like it's so taxing on your body?
Yeah.
That was my point. Yeah. i really do but i don't want it i wouldn't want everybody to say they have to be on it like everybody has to be on it i wouldn't want i mean that seems like
maybe we shouldn't do it if you have to do that jude dos santos admits he's still scared of usada
i won't say it doesn't bother me hmm i wonder what the uh actual He was flagged, but he was proven innocent.
That's insane. There's no
huge announcement about it. See, that's dangerous,
right? Because if he...
I mean, how long did he get sat out for?
It was months, it said, and he hasn't fought
since then. He almost fought again right after.
See, but you're guilty. It's like if a
girl accused you of sexual assault, right off the bat
if that goes on Twitter, you're assumed
guilty. With these guys, it's, oh, he's a drug user.
But then I had no idea he was good to go.
I had no fucking clue.
I know.
I saw the announcement that they were making that fight.
I went, oh, yeah.
Oh, he's back.
He's back.
Who was he supposed to fight, though?
He was supposed to fight someone else, and it got rescheduled, I believe.
Am I wrong about that?
Francis Ngannou, no?
It's Francis, right?
Oh, Jesus.
He was supposed to fight Francis.
It was in September.
It's a motherfucking fight.
Oh, my God.
The one thing I wish the UFC would do better, even this isn't the UFC, but it'd be great
if they did, is announce when a guy is vindicated, when he's good to go.
Yes.
I need a fucking celebration because it's a birthday, so they're good to go.
The other thing is when guys retire.
So many guys retire, let's do something for them.
A guy like Rashad Evans, UFC Hall of Famerer one of the best guys to ever do it great, dude
He put the UFC on the map. Let's do something which they do for him
I need fucking something or celebration of his career some just I need something man. You just can't go
Yeah, thanks for the times. Here's a tweet. I just I don't feel like that's right not for everyone
But for a guy like Rashad
We need something
Won the ultimate fighter
Won the light heavyweight title
Think of his rivalries with
Fucking
Jon Jones
Jon Jones
Quentin Rampage Jackson
He's been two tough fighters
Never fight
Like he's had some crazy times
Yeah
It's funny man
Fighters
People think about you as
You know
Your fights you have late in your career
They forget the crazy fights That you have late in your career they
forget the crazy fights that he had earlier in his career oh my god see i think the ones that he was
doing these past whatever four or five which were tough to watch i don't think of rashad like that
yeah it's a he's a different guy and there's something that happens to fighters or to human
beings uh when they don't want to do it anymore. And I mean, I think it happens with every job.
But if you don't want to do it anymore and you're a printer, it's not like if you don't want to do it anymore and you're a fighter.
Correct.
So if you don't want to do it and you're a fighter and you kind of half-ass it and you're in there with a guy, you know, like Glover Teixeira, like Anthony Smith.
I mean, he's in there against dangerous guys that are trying to kill him.
Hungry lions.
Yeah, it's just, it's a bad place Yeah, it's just a bad place to be.
It's a bad place to be.
You got to be all in in this.
But it's not a sad thing because, you know, like that ridiculous safety for the Seahawks retiring
because they had some neck issues.
He tried to figure out he's a pro baller.
And he retired after eight years.
I went, damn, eight years.
That's a good run, man.
How long has Rashad been fighting? that's a good run, man. How long has Rashad been fighting?
That's a fucking run, man.
Dude, he won season two as a heavyweight.
As a heavyweight.
Yeah.
Remember he fought Bad Brad, what was his name?
Brad Imes.
Brad Imes, that's right.
And then remember his fight after that with Sean Salmon?
Ooh, the head kick.
He goes, Dana was giving him a stink eye because the fight was boring,
and then just, ta-tack!
And fucking, remember when he knocked out Chuck Liddell?
That was like the first.
And he did this to his heart.
Yeah.
He knocked him out with one punch.
Dude, the special, when I think about Rashad, he was so special to me in my career because
he was like in our camp and he was like the guy.
When he won the belt, I remember he was training with us, won the belt and came back.
And it was the first time where like he would speak truth to us because at the time I had a girlfriend I was super in love with.
I didn't want to leave and go to training camp, all this stuff.
He's like, dude, how old are you?
I tell him, he's like, I'm telling you, it's going to be different, man.
You got to make decisions now based off this.
And he would just drop knowledge about the professional life of fighting.
And I remember when he won the belt, he was sitting down.
He came back like a week after training.
And I go, dude, fucking crazy.
Did you just feel like out of this world?
He goes, I feel the exact same, man.
Nothing feels different.
I feel the exact same.
He goes, it's cool.
And you want this goal.
And you achieved it.
And I have the belt.
He goes, back to work, man.
He goes, I thought I'd feel completely different.
He goes, got to get better.
Now I got to get better.
He goes, I feel just like you do, man.
I felt right before I won the belt he fought machida when machida was
machida machida machida dude there was a time for a couple of years where machida was just put it on
people scares getting the FC for a while he was such a weird guy to fight man because he'd be
like doing this yeah he'd be doing all this weird, and then he would blitz in on you.
Nobody knew what to do.
Knockout power, man.
In his last fight with Vitor, like, good Lord.
That was one of the best knockouts ever.
See, pull that up.
Pull that Lyoto Machida KOs Vitor Belfort.
And now he's in Bellator.
Bellator making some waves, son.
Getting saucy over in Bellator, right?
How saucy?
How saucy thing he's going to get? Dude, whatever Vitor's on. I think Bruce Lee Getting saucy over in Bellator right How saucy How saucy thing he's gonna get
Dude whatever Vitor's on
I think Bruce Lee type saucy
He's gonna look like
Ryan Gordon
Dude how about
He knocked him out
He's almost too respectful
Oh he knew man
He knew
I mean he was out cold
I'd almost rather have you celebrate my knockout
I know right
Douche!
Like, this is embarrassing.
This makes it more embarrassing.
Hands on the hip, and then bow to him while his fucking eyes rolled back.
Yeah.
Damn.
And then, you know, I guess the UFC wanted to work with him a little bit,
but he just went to Bellator, because he goes,
you saw it, it was way too strict, man, I'm out.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Can we see in real time?
Or do they only have it here? Look at this, man. Look how he. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Can we see in real time? Or do they only have it here?
Look at this, man.
Look how he fakes that in.
Boop!
Boom.
One more time?
See, what's interesting is, like,
Vitor always would talk about
standing square.
You know, when I first started
trading at Carlson Gracie's
in 1996.
Old school.
It was before Vitor made his UFC debut
That's when I first started Jiu Jitsu
And Vitor was 19
The phenom
He was always talking about
Oh here it is in real time
Look how he moves man
Liotta's so sneaky
Look at that
That is phenomenal
Give me that one more time son
In real time
Then he gets down on his knees
But look at Machida
The way he's moving here
So sneaky I mean he didn't even see that coming in real time. Then he gets down on his knees and bows. But look at Machida, the way he's moving here.
So sneaky.
I mean,
he didn't even see that coming.
He's looking at these crazy hand movements.
Dude,
and remember before this
he beat Andrews,
who's a big up-and-comer
football player at Alabama.
Yep.
He beat him,
starts Vitor,
went,
I'm out.
Yeah.
Now he's at Bellator.
You get Roy McDonald,
Gagarin,
Mousasi,
there's some fun
fucking fights over there.
Well,
I think he sent his brother over there to test the waters.
Like, tell me how many times I make you pee.
Yeah, let me know.
How's that going, bro?
What kind of house can they go to next time?
Get that Ryan Bader rematch.
There's some cool fights over there.
Oh, yeah.
Especially if they let him get saucy.
I mean, he's 40 years old.
Come on.
The other scary thing about Bellator is that uh dazon days on days dazon
where the fuck they're gonna call it is giving them they gave them a nine-figure deal who
you ever heard about this dazon deal i don't know what you're saying dazon what is that it's
their streaming service so now they signed with them so now bellator you remember how they had
tape delays now you can stream it digitally. You get that now.
For free?
High quality.
I think you have to pay for it.
How much?
I don't know.
But you can stream it on your phone?
Their first one's going to be free.
Their first welterweight big fight is going to be free.
Everybody wins in Bellator deal with days into streamed live events.
So think about who they got, right?
Okay, they got Gegard.
His people just contacted me.
I'm going to get Gegard Mousasi on the podcast.
Love it.
He's fighting Roy McDonald.
Yep, so they got Gegard, they got Roy McDonald, two absolute world-class fighters.
Absolute world-class.
Top of the food chain.
Maybe the best 185 and the best 170 in the world.
Certainly in the argument, right?
100%.
Then, you know, look, Ryan Bader's never looked better.
Ryan Bader's never looked better.
He's in a heavyweight tournament right now. He may not ever beat Jon Jones, but he's never looked better. Ryan Bader's never looked better. He's in a heavyweight tournament right now.
I mean, I'd never beat Jon Jones, but he's never looked better.
You know what I'm saying?
Phenomenal.
I mean, he looks fucking incredible.
When he knocked out King Mo.
He could be heavyweight champion.
He could be heavyweight champion.
And he's light heavyweight champion right now.
And who knows, man?
Maybe him going up to heavyweight would be better for him.
I mean, maybe he doesn't have to cut weight.
Maybe he could fight more, especially as an older guy in his 30s.
If he can beat Mitrione, that says a lot.
Well, he's really gotten better and better and better.
He's never stopped getting better.
Then, of course, you got Paul Daly, one of the most exciting motherfuckers in any weight division,
who's got a nuclear missile for a left hand.
His last fight was tough.
Michael Venn and Page.
Phenomenal.
Who did Paul?
Well, Paul Daly's last fight with Fitch was brutal, man.
Fitch is going to Fitch, though gonna Fitch though Okay but why make that fight
That's what I'm saying
Why do that fight
What are we doing here
Why would you diminish
Fitch is gonna Fitch bro
And why would you
Diminish Daly
Like in terms of
He was upset
Marketability
After the Larkin fight
So he KOs Larkin
Who Larkin always felt like
Was a dark horse
At 170
Especially after he
Fucked up Neil Magny
Smoked Neil Magny
I was like dude This, this guy is something.
He's got a lot of weird skills, man.
Larkin's got a weird way of moving.
He's got that oblique kick that he does to the body.
But then he struggled in Bellator.
He came over there.
He's fighting Lima.
Lima's a motherfucker.
So he struggled with him.
Lima beat him.
But it was close.
He lost two in a row.
And then he got KO'd.
Yeah.
See, man, you're in a slugfest.
You're in a slugfest with Paul Daly, dude.
That dude has got something crazy in his left hand.
But you know they're doing Paul Daly, Michael Venn, and Paige next.
I know.
Paul Daly signs new Bellator contract, accepts Joe Schilling's call out.
Oh, Jesus.
Joe Schilling versus Paul Daly in MMA.
Yes, Joe Schilling.
Schilling's fighting MMA now.
Paul Daly's not taking anybody down.
They're going to stand, son.
That's interesting.
If it was a kickboxing match, I'd be more excited.
But do you think Paul Daly's going to try to take him down?
After all the shit he talks about guys taking him down?
I don't think there's a chance in hell.
Yeah.
I'd rather see Joe Schilling fighting kickboxing.
One of the best kickboxers in the world.
MMA's tough for him.
He wants to fight MMA now. That's what he's doing.
I'll watch it. Here's the problem.
The problem that Joe's been having is they don't give him
enough money in kickboxing.
Bellator kickboxing even, it's just not
materializing. Because he's not with Glory anymore, right?
He's Bellator. Yeah, I know, but he was in Glory
or no? Right, yeah. He was in Glory
and then he came over to Bellator a couple
years ago and he's fought well. He's had some great
fights. Yeah, I loved watching him fight in kickboxing.
But for whatever reason, Bellator kickboxing just does not have the appeal.
Kickboxing doesn't have the appeal.
That's crazy to me, man.
I do not understand.
I do not understand.
Really?
I do.
I do not understand.
I do.
If boxing is popular, how is kickboxing not popular?
I don't know.
I watch boxing.
I'd much rather watch it than kickboxing.
Did you watch Rico Verhoeven's last fight?
Sure did.
Fucking that was amazing.
It was cool.
Against Ben Sadiq.
I'm not stopping my plans for it, though.
You're not stopping your Friday night for it.
I would if I didn't have shit to do.
I know.
But have shit to do.
We've done Glory Fight Companions.
Have we?
Yeah.
I did a Glory Fight Companion with Joe Schilling.
And who else did it?
I was in here.
Well, listen, you would have been here.
True.
I never miss Fight Companions.
You're going to make fun of the things I love, like I made fun of your soccer.
I see what you're doing.
There you go.
Full circle.
You're coming down on me.
Full circle, sir.
I got to find something.
Dude, I love kickboxing, man.
No, I enjoy kickboxing.
I think Glory puts out the best product.
I think Glory's phenomenal.
I'm actually bummed out that Lion Fight is not on AXS TV anymore.
They lost their deal with AXS TV.
Well, if you had done Fight Companions for Lion Fight,
Bryce would still be around.
I think we did one.
No?
No.
I think we only did Glory.
Come on, bro.
Fight Companion for Glory.
Bam.
That's right.
Eve Edwards and Joe Schilling.
Son?
2016.
Son? I would have done it since then. I just didn't have time, man. Okay? and Joe Schilling. Son. 2016. Son.
I would have done it since then.
I just didn't have time, man.
Okay?
It's because it's kickboxing.
I still love it.
But you would shut fucking down for, you know.
Well, we only did one Bellator, too.
We only done one Bellator ever.
What was that?
That was a big Bellator.
Yeah.
Who was that?
Who was fighting?
It was all KOs and submissions.
It was amazing.
It's an amazing card.
Shane Carlin fight? No. Shane hasn't fought. Come on card no she doesn't want bro you shut your mouth Jamie Jamie's like
doctor Jay fucking dork how dare you Shane Carwin she's never fought You know better than this. You son of a bitch. The wrong name came to my head.
I apologize.
Think who the fuck was it?
It was a big Bellator.
You, me, and Eddie did.
It was a phenomenal night.
Was it Fedor Mitrione?
It was 198, but it's not.
Was it Fedor Frank Mir?
Frank Mir.
Oh, yes.
Bombs on bombs on bombs.
Yeah, Fedor Frank Mir was chaos.
Yes, that was a good night.
You know, Frank Mir, I really appreciate that guy.
I appreciate the way he thinks and talks about fighting too, and one of the things he said
is like, remember Fedor hip-tossed him, slammed him on his back, and he said he just got up
and just wanted to swing at him.
His ego got the best of him, and that wasn't the plan.
The plan wasn't just recklessly abandon and engage on him.
No, I would do that with Fedor.
Yeah.
But he almost beat him.
He almost beat him.
He had him wobbled.
Well, this is the thing.
I think Fedor gets you into his groove.
Like, he did that with Arlovsky.
He's done it with a lot of people.
He gets you into his groove, and then he cracks you with something.
Game over.
He's done it to Brett Rogers.
But I think that I was curious to see how that fight was taking place,
because in the beginning, Frank was catching him.
He caught him, yeah, and then rushed in.
But Frank also said ring rust is real.
He's like, dude, I need the experience.
I haven't felt that kind of nerves and stuff going into a fight in a long time.
It's been a long layoff for me.
How long had he been off, two years?
Two years.
He's like, I just need to get back in there.
You know Josh Barnett's supposed to sign with him.
Bellator? Scott Coker's on the phone Josh Barnett's supposed to sign with him. Bellator?
Scott Coker's on the phone with Barnett, and they've worked together before,
so you know that boy Barnett gets in there.
Yeah, Mario Batali's in the kitchen right now making some sauce.
He's chopping up some basil and some garlic.
Barnett, get saucy.
Get saucy.
Dude.
Let him get saucy. Barnett saucy against Ryan Bader? Well, who do theyweights, it's trouble. Get saucy. Dude. Let them get saucy.
Barnett saucy against Ryan Bader?
Well, who do they have?
They have Bader.
They have...
Chael Sonnen.
Chael Sonnen.
Frank Mir.
Remember when Josh stopped Frank Mir?
How does he realize how good Josh is?
Josh is a nightmare.
He's a nightmare.
Remember when he beat the brakes off Roy Nelson?
Beat the shit out of him for five rounds.
Beat the shit out of him.
And showed some serious cardio. Some serious shit out of him for five rounds. Beat the shit out of him. And showed some serious cardio.
Some serious cardio to do that for five rounds.
Yeah, Josh is a nightmare for all those dudes.
Oh, he's phenomenal.
Yeah, he might be Bellator heavyweight champion.
He could.
Especially if you let the man sleep in.
You know what I'm saying?
Hunk.
Hunk.
Why wouldn't you?
Oh, just trust his pain.
Don't hate on him, man.
Just look at it.
It's all yellow and healthy.
Older with just skills for days. Leave him alone. Yeah, that trust his pain. Don't hate on him, man. Just look at it. It's all yellow and healthy. Older, just skills for days.
Leave him alone.
Yeah, that's the problem.
When those old dudes get a hold of that juice, they got all those years and years of learning
and experience.
And then all of a sudden, their body starts moving like a young man's body again.
That's why TRT Vitor was so fascinating.
He might go over to Bellator.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Well, he might sign with Ryzen, but he might go to Bellator.
But if he goes to Bellator.
Even Bellator for Vitor, he's like, dude, you know what you guys test a little bit? I don't be surprised if, well, he might sign with Ryzen, but he might go to Bellator. But if he goes to Bellator. Even Bellator for Vitor, he's like, dude, you know you guys test a little bit?
I don't even want that.
Like, Bellator's testing's too strict for me.
I don't want that.
Well, that was one of the things that Rory, not Rory, that Gegard Mousasi was talking about guys fighting him.
Who was he bringing up that he would need extra testing from?
He was just talking about this.
Gegard was just talking about this.
At 205? Or
85, do you remember? At 85.
Who was it? Machida, that's right.
That's right, because he lost
a decision to Machida over in
Bellator. He wants extra drug testing
for Leo to Machida if they rematch. I don't
trust that guy. He said, whoa.
Bellator's going, no problem, man.
We'll do extra. We'll make sure on it.
Looks like pee. Tastes like pee.
Instead of once, we did it twice.
Leota confirmed it's pee pee.
We let him know six months in advance when he's going to be tested.
We give him a heads up. He's going to test it a lot.
We post-dated all his urine samples.
He has a full schedule. You want it too?
We have 12 urine samples. We took them all on the same day, but we got them.
That's what they need to do, man.
Even that's too strict for a fucking V-tour, though.
Hey, have you heard anything about Tony Ferguson?
How's his knee doing?
I don't know.
What is going on with him?
I don't know.
Eddie just had shoulder surgery a couple weeks ago.
He just took his, I think actually a week ago,
just took his stitches out.
It must have been bad for him to have surgery
because I remember the last time I saw him.
I saw him at the Tommy store.
He's like, he's going like this backstage.
I'm good, man.
I'm good, and he's doing this.
Well, it must not have been good.
He must have done something and hurt it again
and realized he just should go ahead and bite the bullet
and get the surgery.
I need to get them stem cells or whatever.
Stem cells?
I need them stem cells
in this left knee.
Team Dagestan breaking.
If the negotiations
on the fight, okay this is Russian
translation, Team Khabib
versus Notorious MMA
will not be achieved, then
next week UFC announces
fight Team Khabib versus Tony Ferguson
XT UFC 229 October 6th. How can he come back that quick?
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
This isn't even real.
I mean, MMA Team Dagestan?
That doesn't work.
Yeah, but wait a minute.
Let me think of when Tony...
Go to Tony Ferguson's Instagram.
They show him breakdancing, right?
When did Tony Ferguson have his surgery?
That was before Brooklyn.
So before Brooklyn was what?
How many months ago was that?
Two months ago?
Correct.
There's no way.
How does he do that?
And from what I hear, Conor versus Khabib is happening.
It's fucking happening.
This year.
Really?
That's what you hear?
That's how the UFC gets him out of jail?
I don't think they give a fuck.
I mean, we'll find out what's going to happen in July, right?
So just go to the actual images.
Yeah, go back.
And then scroll down.
Let me see that one right there, where he's moving around.
There's a video.
Let me see that.
This is him recently.
Hmm.
He's moving fucking slow.
Yeah, he's just controlled.
I mean, Tony's an absolute freak. So when he he's ready to go he'll be ready to go but it almost hurts him because he's such a freak and he wants it so
bad he might not be ready you know right and he might hurt himself yes but he's got to be with
state-of-the-art guys man um it's tony ferguson there was that one up there with the so he's
doing that one right there no right you just had it there you go look at, so he's doing that one right there. No, right, you just had it. There you go. Look at this.
So he's getting on his knees and crawling across mats.
Shit.
This does not totally look like a guy who's ready to fight, though.
It looks like he's just breaking down.
And to fight Khabib in October?
Scar tissue.
That'd be a little tough.
Strength, flexibility, motivation, creativity increasing tremendously.
Not 100%, but close.
Champ.
Strap.
11 weeks out. 11 weeks out.
11 weeks out.
That's not much time, man.
That's not even three months.
That's a weird thing.
It's like, you know, these guys, they have incredible willpower
and incredible endurance and incredible, like, just the focus
and drive and discipline to get better, but your body has to heal.
If I'm the UFC, I'm paying to, and I don't know how stem cells work,
but if I'm Dana, I'm paying for Tony to see a stem cell doctor every week.
Yeah, I don't even know if that would totally help.
I mean, maybe it would help.
I think everything helps a little bit, right?
It's not like you can really measure it.
Like you've got a body chart where I can look at your diagnosis and go, oh yeah, look, after we shot the stem cells in, look, your number
here.
It's definitely going to help though.
Your tissue went up 35%.
It's better than eating fucking fruit roll-ups.
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm sure he's, I don't know what he's doing. I would assume he's
doing something.
I would do growth. I would do a shitload of growth, which you might get flagged for. I
don't know what they're doing with testing, but.
I don't think you could really test for growth. I'm honest with you.
If do blood work.
I don't think they're really – yeah, man.
I think it's real iffy whether or not they can catch you doing that.
The IGF one.
To catch growth and it's half-life, you have to do blood work.
So I don't know how they test these days.
How do they test when they randomly show up?
Do they get blood and urine or just urine?
I have no idea.
They've never – I've left this one to happen.
Those guys could probably get away with it.
Correct.
But it's such a dangerous
move if they flag you with it and then
you're out for a year. Yeah, but
if I'm injured and I have a doctor's
prescription for HGH to recover,
I'm doing all the HGH stem cells. But would they let you do
that? Would the UFC allow? You can't
even have a fucking IV. Like, while
he's going through all this, he can't take an IV.
How lame is that? Like, if he feels dehydrated,
how stupid is that? Terrible. What are we doing? Well, how about this? What if he wants to get an IV. How lame is that? If he feels dehydrated. How lame is that? How stupid is that?
What are we doing?
Well, how about this?
What if he wants to get an IV NAD drip, which will help him recover?
I know.
What if he wants to get an IV?
That's not even outlawed.
What if he wants to get IV vitamins, like a vitamin infusion?
You can do that.
But if you're in the UFC business, why wouldn't you want that guy to be on all the hgh he can get just to recover his knee
so he can fight khabib to fight for 155 which we're all vying to see yeah that's good for
business who gives a flying fuck what he's how he's doing you'd want him for sure on the stuff
that you can do like platelet rich plasma or you know dude send him down to panama
fucking like a david lee song. Panama. I agree.
Look, the thing about Panama and going to like Dr. Neil Reardon and doing all that shit that Mel Gibson was talking about on the podcast with his dad.
Yeah.
That stuff's legal. It's legal in Panama. You go down there and they'll do shit that- TJ went down there, right?
TJ's gone down there twice. He's gone down there twice.
And it's all legal.
Totally.
If TJ's doing it, it's legal.
It's totally above board. You're allowed to do it.
I'd fly that fucking doctor in here and I'd have you can't do it here
You have to do it in Panama because they're doing things that aren't legal in the United States. Well, all right either way
Private jet Tony's ass. Well, you know I'm saying I'm saying
Anyone gets hurt. We got this. Yeah cover this. There's not enough money though
See the thing they said that the UFC made more money last year than ever before, right?
It's like a record year.
A lot of it was like all these deals.
But do you know how much money they must have to pay every month for that loan?
They have a $4 billion purchase.
That's so much money.
Yeah, but they just signed a huge fucking nut with ESPN and the streaming deal, ESPN Plus. But do you think they have enough money where they could
fly guys down to Panama
every time everybody gets hurt? All 500?
I'm talking about
special treatment. I'm talking Tom Brady.
If I'm the New England Patriots, I'm flying down there
by any means necessary. Okay, when do you take
it off? When do you not allow it? Do you let Michael
Chiesa fly down there?
Nope.
You're shaking your head no.
No.
Damn.
What if he strangles Pettis?
No.
You son of a bitch.
What's he ranked?
What's he ranked?
You son of a bitch.
We'll have to find out.
It's also, Pettis hasn't exactly been on a hot streak.
Okay, Kevin Lee.
Send Kevin Lee down there?
Probably.
We'll send Kevin down there.
We'll send Kevin Lee down there.
We'll send Kevin down there.
He beat Michael, didn't he?
Choked him out, didn't he?
He did, didn't he? Didn't he? Kid's got a lot of star power too, doesn't you? He beat Michael, didn't he? Choked him out, didn't he? He did, didn't he?
The kid's got a lot of star power, too, doesn't he?
A little star power.
I'm like a shitty promoter.
Yeah.
You know, there's levels to this game where, like, if LeBron gets hurt, we're flying him somewhere.
Yeah.
Michael Chiesa, number nine.
Kevin Lee, number five.
Okay, do you fly down Dustin Poirier?
Ooh, you don't.
This is tough, right?
Bro, you're giving me trouble with all these fucking guys.
Dude, I gotta look at pay-per-view numbers.
No, he's lost two.
We're not flying down.
Wow.
You don't fly him down.
Maybe you can win two now.
You're on fight nights.
Can you charter a plane and get a bunch of them in at once?
See, now you're talking.
10 for one deal or something?
From the Michael Johnson fight
with Justin Gagey, he gets flown down
for the rest of his fucking life.
Can we inject brain cells? Yes.
We're going to go through the ears.
If we inject brain cells in there...
We're going to get him to lie with his head on one side.
We're going to fill his ears up, let it soak into his brain.
You know there's holes in his ear.
And then lie down on the other side, fill them up with stem cells.
Just go right through the
nose we're going through the whole body i mean i'm giving khabib connor tony eddie alvarez and
nate diaz a fucking frequent flyer card into that bitch do you know that um that's something that um
kyle kingsbury said he did he did some sort of nasal exosomes right and then do you remember
him talking about that did he talk about that on the podcast or off the podcast he's into all kinds of crazy state-of-the-art shit oh he's a freak
he's a big fella yeah that's a big fella that Kyle Kingsbury jacked super athlete too does
everything to try and get the best body possible well now that he works it on it too like that's
his job correct you know he's on the on top of everything new that's coming out, what can help, and what's the newest,
latest, greatest shit.
So you're saying he injected testosterone right into his nose?
No, I think it's exosomes.
What's that?
I think it's the shit that makes stem cells effective.
Into his nose?
Was he talking about that?
Was it Ben Greenfield?
God damn it.
I think it was Ben Greenfield.
This is why I think it was. Okay, now I remember. Ben Greenfield? Ben Greenfield? God damn it. I think it was Ben Greenfield. This is why I think
it was. Okay. Now I remember. Ben Greenfield? Ben Greenfield crashed his bike hard and really
hurt himself. Hit his nose? Yeah, he hurt his head. Okay. And one of the things he did,
that's who it was. One of the things he did to mitigate CTE is have exosomes shot up his
nose. He did it IV, had it done up his nose, and he did like a full
body exosome treatment.
Do you know who Ben Greenfield is?
I've listened to one of your podcasts.
You gotta have him on your show.
On Fire Kid? Yes. First of all, he's a
super genius. Tell Brian to shut the
fuck up while he's talking. I can't.
I feel like he should be on Brian's podcast.
No, but he's
also a super athlete. He does a lot of crazy shit
Like Tough Mudders and all that stuff
But he's on the ball
When it comes to the latest and greatest stuff
He did a whole article for was it Esquire
Or when he shot his dick up with stem cells
And talked about all the different things
He did to his dick
PRP and stem cells
And he self administered it
And he's a super genius
oh man then
but Brian will take
over the conversation
that's what I'm saying
tell Brian to shut the fuck up
I know
or leave him at home
I know
or tell Brian
we don't have the podcast
that day
you know the French Alps
where they train the skiers
hey
god damn
Greenfield's here
he's here just today
please let him talk
let him go
please let him talk
when Ben's here
I'd just wind him up
and let him
drop science on me
dude that dinner that you posted with all those smart people were you guys trying to solve the world crisis go please i'm yeah i when ben's here i just wind him up and let him tell me drop science on me dude
that dinner you're at what they posted with all those smart people were you guys trying to solve
the world crisis or what was going on there where'd you guys eat eating talking shit like you
talk shit like we talk shit probably no they're smart guys smart shit though right no there's
some shit talking especially sam harris is very funny believe it or not yeah he's very really
smart dude yeah he's real funny eric weinstein is very funny uh Believe it or not. Yeah, he's very funny. Smart dude. Yeah, he's real funny. Eric Weinstein is very funny.
And Peterson.
Was that right?
Yeah, and Jordan Rubin, or Dave Rubin, rather, is, Dave Rubin's a stand-up.
And then Jordan Peterson can be funny sometimes.
He's just insanely smart, though.
Does one person start the topic and then you guys go around like a round table?
No, we were all just talking.
And sometimes we were all talking together and a couple times we broke off into separate conversations.
Yeah, you go into groups, don't you?
Yeah.
It was a lot of people.
Yeah.
You know?
Those big dinners are tough because you don't really talk to it.
You break off in groups.
Who's close to you, you know?
Yeah.
It was fun, though.
It's fun knowing people that are way smarter than you.
That's my entire friend.
All my friends are smarter than me. I thought about this the other night. Oh, wow. Everyone's smarter than you. That's my entire friend. All my friends are smarter than me.
I thought about this the other night.
Oh, wow.
Everyone's smarter than me.
That's cool.
That's what you want, though.
Yeah, you don't want to be the one who has the answers.
If you're the smartest guy in the group, you're fucking, that's not good.
You don't want to be the guy with the answers.
Just like you don't want to be the toughest guy in the room.
Yeah.
You don't want to be that guy.
No.
You need tough training partners.
You also need tough training partners to get good.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't want to be the best fighter in your gym.
Well, really interesting people. it makes you crave interesting conversations.
It makes you more interested in different subjects.
They motivate you the same way like if you were training with Brian Ortega, you'd want
your jiu-jitsu to be tighter.
You get motivated by watching them.
It's like I did a podcast, I think, Drinking Bros with Matt Best and those guys.
And they're all super high-level military guys.
They're asking me about fighting or whatever.
And we're doing our dick jokes.
I'm like,
no,
hold on.
Cause I want to hear what they say about the military.
Cause they have this fucking,
they have their black belts in military and all that combat experience.
So I flipped the script on them.
It was fucking fascinating.
Well,
your,
your listeners are going to hate this cause they probably don't know this,
but it went by in like missions and how it goes down.
I was fucking fascinated,
man.
I don't want to talk. I was fucking fascinated, man. It is.
I don't want to talk.
Right.
I want to hear them talk.
Have you ever done a podcast with Jocko?
No, I fucking, uh.
Do you know Jocko?
I don't know him at all.
Well, you do.
I woke up earlier than the other day and felt like, uh, tweeting him like, what's up now,
bitch?
Ha, you woke up earlier than Jocko?
Yeah.
What time were you up?
Uh, I think like four something, but he posted, he was up at like five something.
Jocko's a caricature. I'm like, got your ass. He's, he's been on the carnivore diet before it was the carnivore diet he just eats steak
i look at him i think that's steak you know no i need him on the podcast for sure he would be a
great guest i know we i think uh someone goes man we need to get choco on fire in the kid i put let's
do it and he goes he goes i'm there but we just got to figure it out. Yeah, I'll give you his number after the show. But he's one of those dudes where if you read his stuff enough and pay attention, it will increase your motivation.
It just will.
He's the real deal.
He has this video called, have you ever seen his video, Good?
Have you ever seen Good?
No, please play it.
Oh, my God.
How long is it though?
It's going to give you a rock hard boner.
What is it, a couple minutes?
Two minutes long? It's tough to
motivate me. It's one of my favorite.
I watch this at least once every six months.
I'm not bullshit. Really? Yeah.
Play it on the podcast. Go full screen
and give me some volume
and don't start it prematurely you
son of a bitch. Let it load up.
Let it load up.
One of my
direct subordinates, one of my guys that for me he would he would call me up or we
pause this real quick what's his background navy seal commander i'm in say no more okay
direct subordinates one of my guys that worked for me he would he would call me up or pull me
aside with some major problem some issue that was going on And he'd say boss we got this and that the other thing and I look at him and I'd say good
and finally one day he was telling me about some issue that he was having some problem and
He said I already know what you're gonna say. I
Said well, what am I gonna say? He said you're gonna say good
He said that's what you always say when something is wrong and going bad you always just look're going to say good. He said, that's what you always say.
When something is wrong and going bad, you always just look at me and say good.
And I said, well, yeah.
When things are going bad, there's going to be some good that's going to come from it.
Didn't get the new high-speed gear we wanted?
Good. Didn't get the new high-speed gear we wanted? Good. Didn't get promoted?
Good. More time to get better. Oh, mission got canceled? Good. We can focus on another one.
Didn't get funded? Didn't get the job you wanted?
Got injured? Sprained my ankle? tapped out good got beat
you learned unexpected problems good we have the opportunity to figure out a
solution that's it when things are going bad don't get all bummed out don't get
startled don't get all bummed out don't get startled don't get frustrated if you can say the word good guess what it means you're still alive
it means you're still breathing and if you're still breathing
breathing well now you still got some fight left in you so get up dust off reload recalibrate
re-engage and go out on the attack.
Gangster.
Dude, when it comes from a guy like him, it has a different meaning behind it. Different meaning, yeah.
When those guys speak, I listen, man.
I hear that sometimes when I run.
When I'm running hills and I'm tired, I just go, good.
Good.
Just keep going.
I'm tired.
Tired?
Good.
You're supposed to be
working hard good fight with your girlfriend good bring it bitch it's having that attitude though
like making that switch in your mind to just look at things in a different way everybody can do that
everybody that's not unattainable when you listen to something like that the real beauty of something
that inspires you like that is you hear it and then you can actually put into action this is but do you ever have a problem being self-motivated joe like i've like don't get
wrong that's fucking fantastic i've never been a guy who's been drawn to the motivational stuff or
i just never have been i've never needed it i've been blessed in that regards i don't know what it
is i like it even when bad things happen, I'm always super positive. Always. That's great.
Now when I say bad things, I'm not comparing my bad situations to fucking Jocko in Ward. Right.
I'm talking whether it's when I lost a fight, if something's going wrong, in standup,
and something business-wise, I don't get some, I'm usually all good. I'm usually pretty positive.
You are. You're a very positive guy. I think that's one of the secrets to your success is that you look at things in a good way and you have confidence and you act.
I tell all these young stand-ups, I go, Brandon Childs has been doing comedy for two fucking years.
You've got to look what he's doing.
This is when an athlete goes after something.
You have the work ethic of an athlete and the mindset of an
athlete, but you're also funny. See, the thing about comedy is a lot of people that are really
funny are also, we're sob, we're, we're personal saboteurs. We self-sabotage. We are impulsive.
A lot of times get addicted to things. It's like real, like the type of person that becomes a
standup is a person who says ridiculous shit. They say things that are socially unacceptable things because they know it's going to get a rise they hang around with
a bunch of other degenerates like you and me hang around and you get you this is a certain style of
person yeah like a joey diaz style of person but you're an athlete who has those attributes so for
you like what i tell like young guys in particular i go this highlights the importance of discipline
it doesn't make you less funny.
That's a cop-out.
A lot of people think that discipline makes you less funny.
Comics have these weird cop-outs.
You don't want to be a guy who works hard.
You want to be a guy who's funny.
Some guys are funny and it's effortless.
That's nonsense.
Working hard in everything.
You should work hard in everything.
Everything that you try to do, you should put.
The more attention and more focus you put on it, the better you're going to get at it.
Correct.
Yeah, I just don't want to be a loser. You know what saying i also just i don't want to embarrass myself or people either if they pay for a ticket i'm like dude jesus christ well
also you can do it you can do it correct you know you can do it so if you can do it just keep doing
it yep get better at it keep working at it keep swinging it's a fascinating thing to do for a living, man. You know? It's the best. Fuck.
Are you kidding me?
But disciplined, man.
So I've never necessarily had a problem self-motivating, but I've always drawn inspiration from a lot
of different sources.
Really?
Yeah.
I go to The Rock's Instagram page every day.
Every day.
No bullshit.
Because he's always hustling.
I see The Rock.
He's always fucking flying around in a jet.
He's always in the gym.
Just a little bit.
But The Rock inspires you, but Kevin Hart doesn't on jets?
No, no, no.
He does too.
Really?
Not on jets.
The jet thing is I get that.
That's funny.
But when Kevin Hart's in the gym all the time, that inspires me for sure.
To work out.
He's constantly in the gym.
It doesn't mean I'm going to work out because of Kevin Hart.
No, I get that.
I was going to work out already.
But you're just like, fuck yeah, let's get it.
I like watching people kick ass.
There he is.
Bam.
The rocker.
I also like people kicking ass.
I don't hate anyone.
I root for everyone.
It's almost a problem where I root for everyone.
I almost think it was my downfall as a fighter and as a football player.
I would root for everyone.
I didn't hate anybody.
I want everyone to do well.
But it helps me in comedy. I want everyone to do well. But it helps me in comedy.
Like, I want everyone to, I want everything to be good.
Yeah.
Like, I did a show at the Ice House, and like, you need someone to open up for you.
And so I called Emily at the comedy store.
I'm like, hey, do you have two door guys who are vying for spots?
She's like, fuck yeah.
Give me a list.
So every show, I'm always trying to bring the door guys in.
That's beautiful.
Because I'm like, how can I, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, I want everyone door guys in. That's beautiful. Because I'm like, how can I? You know what I'm saying? It's like I want everyone to do well.
That's beautiful.
Because when I look at like what inspires me is like when you post a video in the crowds in Idaho or whatever or Chris D'Elia or like the crew.
When guys are doing like to me, it's trying to keep up with that.
Because I feel like we're in this race, right?
We're in this race together and everyone's fucking beast and animals and you gotta
you're gonna fall back in the pack man be a loser and get fucking eaten by these lions or you keep
running with these monsters yeah that's how i look at it well it's it's a great attitude to have in
anything if you want the people around you to do well it's a great attitude to have with everything
that's been it's one of the major secrets to my success for sure is have a bunch of people around you that are kicking ass and then helping them.
Helping everybody.
Promoting everybody.
Letting everybody know.
And encouraging everybody.
And then when everybody's doing great and everybody's – it's just – it feels – it's a good feeling for all involved.
When people go selfish and they only want a good thing to happen to them and they get upset if good things happen to other people, that's poison, man.
But the jealousy doesn't work.
It does the opposite of work.
There's an actual quote about that,
that jealousy is one of the rare emotions
that achieves the opposite effect that it intends to
because you intend to diminish someone
by being jealous of them,
but in fact you diminish yourself.
Yeah, you're putting energy into things you can't control
and it does not matter.
Yeah, I forget who made that quote,
but it's even uglier when it's jealousy amongst friends.
Oh, the worst.
We all have seen it.
100%.
It's weird.
It's a weird thing to see.
It's weird.
To me, when I was fighting,
it was weird to see people who,
I won't mention names,
but we're all in the same group
and a guy would be fighting.
You could tell they didn't want him to succeed.
I'm like, dude, we just went through an eight-week camp.
It's going to be tough.
I'm like, tough?
I'm like, oh, you're jealous, man.
With his success, you can go on your own path.
That's a weird thing, man.
With comedy, I thought I'd get it way worse.
I thought people were going to fucking hate me when I walked in the store, laugh at you.
But I don't see it around there.
And if I do it, they're not saying it to my face.
No.
Because our group's there.
Well, it's also once you're proven to actually be funny, you're in.
Nobody gives a shit.
Everybody just wants you to be funny.
But if you were like some guy who was like maybe an actor that was kind of half-assing it
and people would come to see you just because you were an actor but you weren't really trying,
you didn't respect, which we've all seen in the past well there's been a bunch of those people that tried to get sitcoms back in you know the early days and during the sitcom days
when there was a lot of comics like that were getting these deals and then they would do a
sitcom based around them very few of them ever became like a seinfeld or something like that but
but they gave it a lot of deals man developmental And so there was a lot of actors who got into comedy and put together like a quote unquote
act to try to get a deal.
Like they would do it because they would look at it seeing like, look, if they're just going
to audition for shows, it's really difficult to stand out from the crowd.
I mean, unless you look like Luke Rockhold or you got some, you know, you're the perfect
Ryan Reynolds looking fella.
Yeah.
It's fucking hard.
Fuck yeah.
And then if you're a girl, like you have to be like really hot or you have to be really
big.
Like you have to, something has to be funny about you, right?
Well, if you're a standup, there's no rules.
Like you can be Ali Wong.
You can be Roseanne Barr.
You can be, I mean, there's no, you just have to be funny.
Yep.
Like anybody.
That's all that matters.
Right.
So a lot of actors looked at it like, oh, I'll just put together an act.
And oh, man, stand-ups would hate them.
Oh, my.
They'd hate them.
I'm sure it wouldn't go well either.
No.
It's within whoever it is.
Let's say fucking John Goodman started doing stand-up, right?
And he came on stage and went, oh, fuck, that's John Goodman.
And after about three minutes, like, okay, that's John Goodman.
What the fuck are you going to do, man?
Well, that was Michael Richards you know Michael Richards wasn't he didn't really have a background in stand-up he had a background I didn't know that yeah he was like he would do like
he would it wasn't it didn't have like an act he would do like he would fall down on stage and play
like he was doing Kramer the character he was Kramer yeah it was very strange and I don't know
if he did it for a long time and then stopped doing it for a long time
and then started doing it again after Seinfeld.
But before he had that, you know, air quotes, incident at the Laugh Factory,
you know, we'd seen him a couple of times and it was weird.
You know, it was like a really, really famous open mic night guy.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, strange.
It was like a guy who's super famous but really hasn't been doing it that much.
Because you're going up at the Laugh Factor comedy store.
You got to remember, it's murder.
They're not booking those people.
So it's murder is wrong for whatever reason you got in, but you're on that lineup with
Bill Burr and you and D'Elia.
And you got to go up and the crowd's used to seeing high level fucking stuff.
Yeah.
This was like what?
2006 or some shit?
When did all that go down with him?
Brian said he was at the Improv and drove over there.
Well, I had gotten back to the Comedy Store, and I think it was Brent Ernst.
I think he saw, yeah, he was over at the Laugh Factory when it happened,
and he came back, and he was like, yo, I just left the Laugh Factory.
He goes, fucking Kramer's up there throwing the N-bomb.
And I was like, no, what happened?
He goes, dude, it was crazy.
He lost his shit.
He was getting heckled.
So we had heard about it, but then when the cell phone video got leaked TMZ released that shit
everybody was like
oh wow
game, set, match
like this is a new thing
dude
yeah
it was weird man
I was
I was doing a set
in the belly room
the other night
and I've never seen
Brody Stevens do stand up
I've never seen him
and then he got up there
and just
he can't
again I know who he is
obviously he's always around
but I've never seen him
and then he just came out
like doing crowd work and not using the mic.
And I looked at Sam and I go, what the fuck's he doing, man?
He's like, you've never seen him?
I go, just watch.
And it was so funny, man.
He's going to do it forever.
And it's just fantastic.
Oh, my God.
He does crowd work.
He does warm-ups for so many television shows for so many years that he's super comfortable just talking to people.
Yes.
Yeah.
It was fucking
I was dying
the special came out recently
I think it's on iTunes
oh really
live from the main room
they taped it
and doing that set
the Kinnison set
the spot
no shit
dude that's so cool
wow
when did they do this
it just came out
maybe a couple weeks ago
yeah he was talking about it on stage
good for them
that's awesome
he can go around
and he'll go
Iowa and they're like yeah from there he goes there you go and moves on to the next person like Jesus Christ man Yeah, he was talking about it on stage. Good for them. That's awesome. He can go around and he'll go, Iowa.
And they're like, yeah, from Iowa.
He goes, there you go.
And moves on to the next person.
I'm like, Jesus Christ, man.
It was so funny.
He's a weird guy.
He's like, I'll be here till 2 a.m.
It's 10.
I'll 2 a.m.
I'm like, what the fuck?
That's how he kicked it off.
I'm like, what is going on right now?
Well, his style is so unusual because on paper, you would never understand where the punchlines are.
But then when you hear him say, you can't stop laughing.
I was dying.
I don't know if he writes it or if he just does it.
I wonder.
I'd like to ask him if he writes stuff down or if he just does it.
There's a few guys like that that are just funny the way, like Theo's like that.
Funny the way they say shit.
Yes.
Theo says shit that I could say the same shit, it wouldn't be funny.
Correct.
But he says it and it's fucking hilarious.
Yeah.
That's the king about comedy, man.
Like nobody really knows what funny is until you hear it.
But there's also something, Steve Simone, he was saying, because I was telling him, he goes, man, you're here a lot.
I go, yeah, I'm trying to just jump on anyone's
shows because I want to make sure it's not my crowd
because you've got to figure out what's funny because you
just played your shows. I don't want to be that guy.
He goes, who told you that? Who the fuck told you that?
He goes, everyone here is trying to get their
crowds. He goes, when you're on the road, you want your
crowd, man. I'm like, I know, but when I'm
here, I want to make sure it's not my crowd
because I feel like the funny uncle at the barbecue if it's my crowd you don't find out
what's working like the ice house like if it's my crowd at the special sizes i've walked off
feel like kevin hart like what the fuck that was a fucking a plus but then you go to the comedy
store and it's not your crowd like that was a d that was a fucking d that's true but if you go to
the ice house and it's your crowd and you actually record it and listen to it-
Which I do.
That's important.
You can tell what is actually going to work and what's not going to work.
You can tell.
And then you can tighten it up.
So you have extra confidence at a place like the Ice House to do different shit.
To me, what it's like, it's like cross-training.
Like, it's not a bad idea to do some kettlebells and run some hills and do jiu-jitsu.
It'll probably make you jiu-jitsu better.
And I think just doing crowds where no one knows who you are is great,
but doing crowds where they know who you are is great too.
And as long as you're paying attention, you get a different thing from each one.
Yeah, you're right. 100% right.
Yeah, I mean, you also get different things from different size rooms.
Dude, there's certain things that will work at the Laugh Factory in certain pockets that won't work anywhere at the comic.
It's so strange to me.
It's a weird thing, man.
It's very strange.
It's as strange as it gets.
You can feel different energies.
It's so cool.
It's so fascinating, man.
It is, right?
If you want to talk to someone about the comic store and the history of it, Steve Simone just fucking did it.
Oh, yeah.
He knows a lot of shit.
Steve's been around for a long time and couldn't be a nicer guy.
Might be the nicest guy in the world.
He might be the nicest guy that's ever lived.
Almost like there's a darkness back there that I want to meet.
I know.
I want to know what's going on there.
I want to push him.
Come on.
He's doing this new bit about his dad.
I was like, can we come from a good family, it sounds like.
Where's this come from, man?
Nice guy from a good family.
Just one day. He was opening up for Artie in
San Francisco. Oh, was he? Yeah.
The Cobbs. Cobbs is an interesting
room. It used to be the tiniest room.
It used to be like 150 people. A little tiny
room on the road, but it was so good. Everybody wanted
to do it. And then they moved to that place, which is
like 450. 450. Giant
ass ceiling. It's a big place. It's in crowd there
too. Very liberal. Well,
that's San Francisco, man. San Francisco
highly educated, very progressive.
You're doing a different kind of comedy there.
Did an abortion joke.
They didn't like it?
That's hilarious.
More of a reference, but it did not
go well. And you can feel
it. Is can feel it.
Is there anything worse?
Nope.
But, you know, what it is is when you run into a subject that people don't accept, you've got to ask yourself, okay, does my sense of humor different than theirs?
Or did I do a shitty job in figuring out how to get that subject to them?
You know, because some subjects, like, there's quite a few bits that are going to be in my Netflix special that when I first started doing them, they weren't that good.
There was something missing.
Like I knew there was something there, but you don't, you only know so much when it's written.
You really find out what's good when you try it on stage.
And then that's when it sort of comes to life.
It's like I have almost every bit that i've ever done written in some way
but they're all rarely the way i do them yeah you know once you get on stage with it that's when you
start fucking with it and figure out how to do it you're more of an outline yeah and then we get on
stage like yeah but it's you know along the way sometimes it just tanks you know that has to
happen some guys stick with it though don't they that's so crazy like
this isn't where i tell you just the other night man it's not working move it around but a good
beating like doing it where it doesn't work makes you just refocus like let me go back and look at
this thing and figure out why these people got upset oh you know what if i just do this first
then they'll know where i'm coming from first they'll let me get away with that because they
won't think i'm an asshole you know it's it's weird and you finish you're especially finished editing yourself yeah that's
uncommon right well i didn't have much to edit in terms of like content it was just how much
should i cut out and where what you know what show was the best one that was what it was like
really a lot of the best one was the first show see i heard tony as soon as you guys got done
because i text you and i text on and he goes i don't even know why we're filming a second one A lot of the best one was the first show. See, I heard Tony, as soon as you guys got done,
because I text you and I text Tony and he goes,
I don't even know why we're filming a second one.
Home run off the first.
It really was out of the park.
Boston's fun, man.
Wilbur, right?
That Wilbur Theater is amazing.
Because it's like a theater, but it's also like a comedy club.
There's 900 or 1,100 people in the room.
And I think it's like 500, 300 or something like that yeah reminds me of the palms if you're you've come to the palms yeah the palms it's like people
right on top of you yeah it's like yeah they're right on top of you where most theaters so far
you can't feel it kat williams did the palms one time when we were there i didn't get a chance to
see him though god he's fucking funny yeah he was there i think he was there like the day before the ufc or something like that my brother went and saw
uh kevin hart he was at pepsi center oh yeah i went i wonder how how the fuck do you pull off
stand up at the pepsi center jay goes i know and my brother's a little bit of a hater by nature
because he can't be that good and i'm like dude he's like the most successful comic ever touring
in these stadiums i bet it's pretty fucking good and he goes in there and there's like a round stage like 360
and he goes dude it was incredible best best he's ever seen wow which is crazy so fucking
powerhouse man guys are hustling performing powerhouse yeah interesting right it's interesting
when you see those super winners those super winners that
just push the envelope of success it's weird you know those those qualities are very strange
it's also strange in comedy because someone kevin hart might be your cup of tea but then they might
hate bill burr which it's very strange to me that's silly well i don't i shouldn't say hey
but yeah i know maybe you know what I'm saying?
Like Bill Burr might be just okay to you, but Kevin Hart, you're number one.
Yeah, but that's okay.
That's normal.
I mean, there's always going to be people that have different tastes.
That's the same with music.
That's the same with books.
For sure.
100%.
Yeah.
It's a crazy time for stand-up, though.
If you think about how many different comedians are really good right now and have specials.
It's nuts.
Netflix is blowing up.
Blowing up.
Do you know Russell Peters was the first comic to get a Netflix special?
When did he get his?
A long-ass time ago.
Really?
I heard him in an interview talking about it.
I think it was with Sway in the Morning.
And he goes, yeah, I was the first one.
They say, how much did they pay you?
And he talks about it.
Really?
He goes, 10% of what Chris Rock got paid. Wait a minute. When was he the first one. They say, how much did they pay you? And he talks about it. Really? He goes, 10% of what Chris Rock got paid.
And they looked it up.
Wait a minute.
When was he the first one?
What year was it?
Old school.
Really?
Find out.
Look it up.
Find out.
Russell Peters comedy special.
Russell Peters is a monster.
I had one on Netflix in 2005.
I think Russell Peters beat you.
Probably.
If he was first.
Pretty sure he said he was first.
2005, goddamn.
Goddamn.
I didn't even know Netflix was back then.
Yeah, nobody knew.
That was part of the problem.
It's like when everyone's going on,
when people are like, my special's on C,
so I'm like, oh, fuck.
So what else is going on this weekend with the UFC?
What other fights are there?
Well, you got the Ultimate Fighter finale on Friday.
Is there any other on that card?
Stylebender.
Pull up.
Ooh, Stylebender.
Brad Tavares versus Stylebender?
Brad's a motherfucker, man.
I think Brad beats him, but I think, I love Stylebender, but Brad's been quietly 4-0,
but also Brad is a guy who, the rumor is he's injured going this fight.
He was going to call the fight off.
He's injured.
How dare you say that online?
No, it's all over.
It's out.
Is it?
Yeah, it's out.
What's he injured with?
I don't know.
He's supposed to pull out, but he's going through it.
So it depends.
People forget Brack can fucking wrestle too.
Hmm.
That's a fucking juicy fight.
That's a tough fight for Stylebender.
From Nigeria 13 and 0, son.
He's a motherfucker.
He really is.
He's so exciting.
Damn. That's very good. Let really is. He's so exciting. Damn.
That's very good.
Let me see the regular UFC card again.
That's a big fight.
So that's the headline fight?
Yeah, and it's Ultimate Fighter, which is...
You see they're selling the Ultimate Fighter house?
That's how you know Ultimate Fighter is done.
They're selling it.
They're selling it.
Really?
Five mil, son.
You want it?
Five mil?
What?
Good investment.
What did you say?
It's like 19 bedrooms.
People peed all over that house.
Oh, dude.
You're going to go in there, it's going to smell like a dude's balls.
A dude's jacked off in those closets with no cameras.
Hotfail Sun Tzu, Rob Font.
That's a good fight right there.
That's a very good fight.
Gokhan Saki and Khalil Rountree Jr.
Rountree, that's a motherfucking fight.
That's a real good fight.
Dude, Felder Mike Perry.
That's a fucking fight.
That's right.
Remember? Felder at welterweight. Very interesting. That's a fucking fight. That's right.
Felder at welterweight.
Very interesting.
He's a big dude.
Felder has to cut some serious weight to make 155.
Dude, Felder's a monster on the mic, too.
He's a great commentator.
Very smart.
Paulo Costa and Uriah Hall.
That's very interesting.
Vitor 2.0.
I'm not saying Paulo Costa's on all the drugs, but how does he pass this fucking test?
Whose nose is clogged up for that sniff test?
Whose allergies are kicking in that day?
Hopefully got their inhaler.
Dude, the fuck?
Like, what?
Bitch.
How does Novitski just not live wherever his house is?
Dude, he is first team all the way. Is Lando Venata on that card, too?
Go down there.
Yeah, look at it.
It's close. Jakar. Is Lando Venata on that card, too? Go down there. Yeah, look at it. It's close.
Jakar close and Lando Venata.
That might be the sleeper of the night, folks.
Yeah, I get this.
No one's even talking about that fight.
What's on Fight Pass?
That's crazy.
Dude, Hooker and Burns is a motherfucking fight, too.
Gilbert Burns, Dan Hooker.
Holy shit, what a card this is.
Yeah.
Dude, this card is insane.
Great card.
This is an insane card because people aren't even
talking about this Hooker Burns fight.
Dude, you know what's going to be sad though? I think the pay-per-view
numbers. Oh, how dare you.
You never know. Stipe versus DC.
They might get into the twos.
What do you think? 200s? Well, and a lot of people
like Max Holloway and Brian Ortega, you don't
think it can make it into the twos? Hell yeah,
200. 200 would be a nightmare, sir.
250 was the last one, right?
Which was terrible.
Not good.
See, I'm hoping it does around 500 to 600.
Make GSP fight again.
You need GSP back.
Bring GSP back.
He was the last one to get real good numbers.
He got 850, right?
I know.
But see, I think this does around between 400, 600.
Yeah?
What do you think, Jamie?
I hope so.
Jamie made a weird face.
I have no idea.
It's tough to tell these days, man.
I think they need to get rid of the pay-per-view model. It's obviously not working anymore. What do you think, Jamie? I hope so. Jamie made a weird face. I have no idea. It's tough to tell these days, man. I think they need to get rid of the pay-per-view model.
It's obviously not working anymore.
What do you think they should do?
I think they should put these for free.
I think they should put them on ESPN, these major fights.
How are you going to pay people?
Well, the pay-per-view model.
The top four NBA guys are getting more than the top ten NFL quarterbacks,
and those games are all free.
So there's a model somewhere.
Right.
There's a model.
But this model's not working.
Yeah, but NBA is way more popular than the UFC.
Well, yeah, yeah.
I'm sure, but it's also free.
Right.
But also the sponsorship deals, the endorsement deals,
they have major endorsements.
Right, but there's only so many endorsements they're going to get behind.
Cage fighting. It's such a crazy sport. Well, fucking Harley's only so many endorsements they're going to get behind. Cage fighting.
You know, it's such a crazy sport.
Harley Davidson, Ford, Bud Light, Miller Light.
We've had some big ones.
More now, right?
Yeah.
Roughly the same amount of people also.
Same amount of fighters, same amount of NBA players.
About 500 or so.
Yeah.
550.
Yeah, there's no comparison in terms of overall viewership, though.
Like, what is a big basketball game?
NBA Finals.
35?
A million, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They big basketball game? NBA Finals. 35?
A million, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
They're killing it.
I'm just saying,
I think that the pay-per-view model is so old school,
especially now with illegal streaming.
Me and Jay were talking about it.
If I'm not that guy,
because I fight,
I'm not trying to steal money from the UFC,
but there's a link I can go to
every time that's in HD
I don't have to pay a fucking dime for.
Really?
Everyone.
So many of my friends do that.
I have so many people.
They're going to jail when Uncle Fester finds out.
So when the numbers are low, you got to take that into consideration.
Most 18 to 36 males can figure it the fuck out.
They're not like, $70?
No.
I wonder.
I wonder if you just had it free, if the numbers would be.
Well, I don't know, man.
You've got to make a big fucking risk to do that,
because you've got to think of how much money the UFC has to pay every month
to make that loan, to make that monthly nut.
That's on them.
That's not the fans' problem.
That's true.
The other problem is, think how expensive it is to be an MMA fan these days.
So I've got to fork out money for ESPN Plus now, just to watch.
How much is that?
Was it $9.99?
I don't know.
You could call it low end, $5 a month.
I think it's $10.
Okay.
Okay.
$9.99.
So you got that, right?
When does that go live?
Because the fight pass is still-
2019, January.
So I got to pay for that.
So that's money, additional money.
And then pay-per-views.
There's one every month.
So if I want that, that's $70.
So that's $80 a month just to be a UFC fan.
Yeah.
Now if I want to watch Dizon, Dizon, Dizon, Bellator,
I've got to pay, how much is that going to be?
$9.99 to watch the Bellator now.
Is that what it is?
It didn't say.
I was looking.
Let's say it's $9.99.
Less than that, I'm assuming something's wrong with the streaming service.
Well, if they just had a free streaming service and then had ads,
do you think they could make it up?
I'm sure. But my point is it's getting expensive to be an MMA fan, do you think they could make it up? I'm sure.
But my point is it's getting expensive to be an MMA fan,
and you're losing fans.
And the numbers are in decline.
So obviously there's a business model problem.
What if they made a deal with Netflix?
They tried that.
Netflix, Amazon, those guys didn't want to play a game.
They went, your audience isn't big enough.
Really?
No, they went, well, Twitter went, we'll use the NBA.
We're going to go the NFL route because the other sports are too big.
Hmm.
Twitter.
What if they showed it on Twitter?
Can you get Twitter on your TV?
You could send, if you have it on your phone, you could almost,
everyone has it.
Yeah, you could just send it to the screen.
Yeah, what if your phone runs out of batteries in the middle of the fight,
your friends call you a pussy?
We'll plug it in.
Sometimes it's not linking.
It's not playing off your phone directly
now when you do it
I do it through
Apple TV
but you could do it
through Google
Android right
you could do like
Google Play
you have like a stick
that sticks in the USB
for sure
yeah there's a little
symbol
interesting
I mean that all
used to be science fiction
just a little while ago
but I see shit
on my like
someone sends me
a YouTube video to watch
if I'm home watching something on Apple TV I'll just stream it right to the TV 100% science fiction just a little while ago, but I see shit on my, like someone sends me a YouTube video to watch.
If I'm home watching something on Apple TV, I'll just stream it right to the TV.
100%. That's amazing.
Is that us?
Oh, hi.
Oh, what up?
There's a little symbol like on the top by the bar.
It's just a broadcast to a TV thing.
Yeah.
It's just, I feel like UFC has this old school model right now, but with the UFC Plus, ESPN
Plus, it's at least headed in the right direction.
But the pay-per-view model, especially as expensive as it is to be a fan right now,
they're making it tough.
I think it's going to come a time where you're not going to need any streaming service.
You'll just be able to type a website address into your television and it'll be universal.
Everybody will have that.
I think that's real close.
Like a lot of people getting rid of their cable.
Yep.
Dish.
Apparently young kids, they never watch cable anymore.
Ever.
Yeah, they just don't watch it.
I'm a Dish fan, but most young kids don't fuck with any of it.
Yeah.
Like what?
Dish what?
That's interesting, right?
Comcast, huh?
The only thing it's good for really is live events.
Yeah.
That's it.
Everything else.
Netflix is more popular than broadcast cable and more in TV viewing.
Hmm. Hulu TV viewing. Hmm.
Hulu and YouTube.
Wow.
The thing I read said it's got more viewers than all of those combined,
but I don't know if that's accurate.
Broadcast, cable, Hulu, and YouTube.
Netflix has more than everything.
See, if Netflix got the UFC, that would be crazy.
For the UFC.
For the UFC.
Netflix, like, do what? What if they just bought it? They could. What if they just said, we have so much money. That would be crazy For the UFC For the UFC Netflix like
Dude what
What if they just bought it
They could
You know if they say
What if they just said
We have so much money
Like how much is your
How much is this
Four billion
Four billion
Okay
We'll just buy it
Write them the check
We'll just buy it
It's like
A pair of sneakers
That you're never gonna wear
Just let them fight every day
We don't give a fuck
Just air it
They could do it man
I wonder
Yeah that would be But then how would you figure out how people get paid?
You'd have to give numbers, right?
It would have to be in the contract because that's one thing about Netflix.
They don't want to give away the numbers.
So if you have a comedy special on Netflix and you ask them, hey, how's it doing?
They go, it's doing really well.
Yeah, but you know.
But really happy.
Yeah, but you know because like you, they go, you want to do another?
You're like, well, it must have went pretty well.
Now if you do a special on there and you're like,
how are we doing? Like, all right.
Yeah, keep on keeping on, man.
Do you want to do another? We're all set.
It probably didn't go well. You don't have exact
numbers, which I feel
like is a little hairy, a little dicey
because you have no negotiating power.
Yeah, it's super dicey.
Because if you're like, hold on, let's say
you, for instance, you're like, hold up.
100 million people watch this?
I need more fucking money.
Right.
Like to them, is 5 million watching good?
Is 100 million?
Where are we at here?
Nobody knows.
Negotiate.
That can't be right.
Like, that can't be good.
But it's their business.
They started it.
The thing is, like, you don't have to do it there.
Don't you think?
But you could do it on HBO, and then you'd get real numbers.
Or you could do it on Showtime and then you'd get real numbers. Or you could do it on Showtime, and you'd get real numbers.
Or you could do it on Amazon.
Jeff Bezos tells you to go fuck yourself.
Do you think you're at a disadvantage if you're not on Netflix these days?
Because here's my argument that I had with Brian about things,
shooting a special, is Netflix is the king, man.
And if you're you, if you're Bill Burr, if you're Kevin Hart,
not Kevin Hart, if you're fucking Chris Rock, any of those guys, right?
They're paying you a massive amount of money and they're promoting it.
But if you get lost into that shuffle, because they have so much content now,
it doesn't pay off.
I don't know.
You know, Gaffigan, interestingly enough, decided not to do it.
And he could do it anywhere.
And he decided to do it on all platforms.
So he doesn't have it on Netflix, but he has it on a bunch of different things.
See where Gaffigan put his special up.
But he did it on his own site, right?
And released it very Louis C.K. style.
Yeah, I think he actually, I think it's available on Amazon.
I think it's available on a bunch of different things.
He's so established, though.
Yeah, true.
Gaffigan's a motherfucker.
People still ask him to do his Hot Pockets.
Yeah, that's a good point because I think that they probably, no matter where he goes,
his fans are very loyal.
They'll go seek it out.
He's one of the biggest in the world.
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm saying if you're like, let's say you're a guy like Brian Callen, where are you going
to get the most exposure?
Honestly, YouTube.
The most exposure would just be release it for free. For free. Would just release it for free.
For free.
But that's very expensive to do.
It says Gaffigan's Noble Ape initially will be released on multiple pay TV and digital
platforms, including Apple's iTunes, Amazon Video, AT&T, Charter Communications, Comcast,
Cox Communication, DirecTV, Holler at DirecTV, Dish Network, oh shit, Google Play, and Sony
PlayStation.
That shit says Walmart's Voodoo.
Walmart has Voodoo?
That's why they bought that thing.
Microsoft's Xbox and album version will also be released on the same day in digital and physical formats.
That motherfucker going sizzler.
A $5 download via Louis C.K. Net.
Yeah, it's interesting.
Because I think that he could do it.
So if he does it and then it really works
out well, maybe Kevin Hart might do
that too. He might say, listen, I could
charge $4.99. Well, he could do whatever
he wants. He might be like, hey, I'm Kevin Hart.
I could just have, people are going to go
watch my special. I'll just put it somewhere.
You can do that. Yeah, there's a small handful.
If you're a smaller level comic, let's say B-list, you can't do that and
make money. People are going to see it. So maybe you get money back when you go on the road. It's
like, holy shit, that was great and it's free. So you go on the road and doing theaters now maybe.
Well, that's the thing. Do you know how many comics have done that and had a YouTube video
that became a giant smash and then were selling out theaters. What is that girl,
Angela Johnson?
You know Angela Johnson?
Yeah.
She's on Mad TV.
She has that hilarious bit
about the Vietnamese girls
doing her nails.
Yeah.
That bit got on YouTube
and she was selling out giant-
Crypto Jail.
Yeah.
Yeah, Crypto Jail.
She's hilarious.
She's very funny.
Yeah, fucking hilarious.
She was selling out giant places.
Well, to that extent,
not that Chris DeLeon
is similar to that,
but Chris DeLeon's Snapchat, his videos were so funny.
Yeah.
It made him insanely popular.
He's so silly.
Amongst other stuff, but that's one of the – he had millions of followers on there.
Yeah.
So you go into City and he's a brilliant comic and he's one of the biggest in the world now.
He's so silly.
He's a unique kind of silly.
It's a weird silly.
You would hate us if you saw our text every day about shoes and fashion.
The Yeezy dad shoes came out.
I'm like, dude, I can get them.
You want a pair?
He's like, yes.
What are Yeezy dad shoes, Jamie?
You're going to hate them.
Well, you might like them.
You like them more than the 350 Boost.
Sweat these, boy.
Sweat these, boy.
Converse.
Sweat these, boy. Oh, sorry. boy. Converse. Sweat these, boy.
Oh, sorry.
Dude, I'm not.
Those are dope.
Red suede.
I know.
I'm wearing these just for you.
When did you get those?
Converse actually sent them to me.
I would never have bought these.
I was going to say, there's no way you're in a store and got those.
They sent me those, but I put them.
I said, I'll wear these motherfuckers.
Hell yeah.
Those are fucking dope.
Those are Yeezys, those things?
Those are Yeezys.
Those are Yeezys.
And you like those?
No, I don't.
Are you a San Jose Sharks fan?
No, I do not.
It looks like a shark.
No, let me just say this.
That was the first Yeezy, and I can get them. They're coming out. But I went, I'm going to pass. you, a San Jose Sharks fan? I do not. That looks like a shark. No, let me just say this. That was the first easy, and I can get them.
They're coming out.
But I went, I'm going to pass.
I'm going to pass on those.
And I go, Chris, you want these?
And I went, Chris, these only look good on small guys.
He goes, you're right, but I'm smaller.
I go, with the right outfit and small jeans, you can wear them.
He goes, you're right, Brent.
And we're going back and forth.
And I screenshot it.
You guys are serious.
And I said to Brian, I went, fuck you.
Because Brian likes to wear those boots to make him look like he's an Italian painter.
Correct.
And wishes he was taller.
Yeah, he's got those boots with like wooden heels with leather soles that are really slippery.
Very strange.
And then they have zippers on the sides.
I'm like, what the fuck are you wearing?
You're supposed to wear these when you're in Catholic school.
Like, why are you wearing this as a grown man who's 51 years old?
Yeah, he's crazy.
He never had a period of time where he dressed like his age.
Never.
He's like finally old as his dress.
Yes.
Like he is now the age he's supposed to be.
He like got older and fell into his established wardrobe.
Not anymore, bro.
What?
Oh my God.
What is this?
I don't know.
The fuck is happening?
That's not Brian.
Why does he dress like a skater?
That looks just like him.
Wait a minute.
Are those slides?
That does look identical to him.
Wait a minute.
That's Brian.
I think that's him. Dude, that's fucking Brian. That's does look identical to him. Wait a minute. That's Brian. I think that's him.
Dude, that's fucking Brian.
That's Brian Callen.
Dressed as a tool.
Make that face bigger.
It's very blurry.
Dude, what is happening?
That is Brian Callen.
Are those slides?
That's recent because his hair is leaving.
Are those slides?
Is that black socks and slides?
Oh, my God.
That's Brian Callen.
For a special, he wants me to dress him, and I'm going to get credits on a special.
Don't, don't, don't. Let him be himself. Well, no. Say dress the way you want to dress, bro. No, to get credits on a special Don't don't don't let him be himself
Say dress the way you want to dress bro
That's what I told him
It is him
There he is
Those are black socks and sandals
Or are those
No they're not
Those are skate shoes
Look at him he's wearing skate shoes
Roll down those shoes.
I was hoping that those were black socks.
Me too. Asian style.
I thought they were black socks and slides
because they're so gross.
Where the white stripe goes over the top.
Proper use of slides.
Is that the proper use? Black socks?
Is that how you folks do it?
Is that how everybody does it?
Tight move, Joe.
You can do it with slides, but you can't do it with flip-flops, correct?
Like slides and socks is okay.
Correct.
Why do they have rules like that?
It's the streets, bro.
You know what it is?
It's gross if you like that sock in between your toe with that bar with a flip-flop.
Like a fucking master splinter or some shit.
Like you're a ninja.
Like you got those ninja shoes on.
Remember those ninja shoes?
I fucking-
I'm out of them, man.
What are they called?
Tabis or something like that?
Oh my God.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Remember when dudes
would wear those kung fu shoes?
Do you remember
those kung fu shoes?
You didn't grow up
on the East Coast, did you?
No.
A lot of dudes
in like the 1990s
and certainly in the 80s
would wear kung fu shoes.
Just as whatever? They would dress up like they knew kung fu.s would wear Kung Fu shoes. Just as whatever?
They would dress up like they knew Kung Fu.
They would wear like Kung Fu pants. Those things.
Oh my, those are tods.
Those are called tods these days.
Those are Kung Fu shoes, son.
Dudes would wear Kung Fu like they knew Kung Fu because they had those shoes on.
They'd be like, damn. Dude, I'm not mad at them.
Those are different. Those are more
fashionable. Yeah, those are fashionable.
Those first ones you show are some bullshit.
Somebody had a bit about it, about dudes in the ghetto.
I think it was, do you remember that guy that had a bunch of fucking,
he had a bunch of specials on HBO, Robert Townsend.
Remember that?
Remember Robert Townsend?
Remember he had a bunch of HBO specials where he had a bunch of different comedians on?
I feel like someone on one of those did a bit.
Did a kung fu bit?
About dudes in the ghetto who dressed up like they wore kung fu outfits.
I'll tell you who I don't fucking trust.
Dudes that wear aqua socks.
What do you mean by aqua socks?
Like blue socks?
No, bro.
Aqua socks like if you went to Waterworld or like a water park aqua socks wearing a mountain public do nothing drives a fucking girl up worse than
aqua socks really dries them up dude bring a fucking auger you can still get them at walmart
and shit who wears them my dad wore them when i was a kid those yes who wears those you walk
around with those on yeah if you're at the water park. So you get traction. Okay, that makes sense.
But dudes wear them in real life?
Yeah.
Hmm.
Like some assholes.
Maybe they want to be a superhero.
Maybe they're just ready for water at all times.
Like, what is the purpose of those?
So you don't slip on the outside of the pool?
Yeah, because it's all hot and shit.
Okay.
To quit being a pussy.
How about that?
Hmm.
But those are, like, very similar to, like, minimalist shoes.
See, those are cool.
See, you bring up cool ones, Jamie. Wait, wait, wait. You're fucking me. Hold on. How is that cool? Because those are dope, bro. You like that? But those are like Verily similar to like Minimalist shoes See those are cool See you bring up cool ones
Wait wait wait
Hold on how is that cool?
Cause those are dope bro
You like that?
Well that's some shit
You would run in
Yes I would
I know that's what I'm saying
I'm talking about the original
Aqua sock
But it's different
See that one right there
That you just showed
That last one
The last one
The one above that
The one that looks like
A normal sneaker
Yeah like that
Like that yeah
Those look real similar
to the shit i wear when i run some tibias i run the with those uh they have like nothing to them
they're still running with those yeah i love those they dude my feet are way stronger because
of running that way 100 made a big difference it definitely made a difference yeah because your
feet have to work way harder it's not like um if you run in a pair of like I like to run in like Solomon
Speed cross shoes because they got a lot of traction you could run on anything
You don't worry about where you're stepping you just stomp on shit
But you don't you don't your foot doesn't have as much engagement
Like when there's no cushioning at all and it's a thin layer your foot is like pushing off and gripping some shit but you
can't just jump strengthens your feet you just can't go fucking full no can't operate into that
which i tried yeah it'll fuck you you get that plant you got that planner i did that
i'm back to cushy shoes yeah the easies and shit oh you like those but you don't run anymore right
i need some i need i need to inject some shit into my leg.
I need to go full fucking V-torn in my leg.
Dude, I'm telling you.
They can do that now.
Homeboys around here, right?
Yes.
They're doing all kinds of shit now, son.
You know what else we should do?
You sure just don't cover that shit?
We should do it on air.
We should get NAD drips.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe they'll do it in here.
It's supposed to be insanely painful.
If you do the push NAV where it's like 15 minutes, it'd be funny if we did a podcast.
It's supposed to make your guts wrench like someone's stomping on your stomach.
But if you get through it, you get through it in 15 minutes versus eight hours.
Hold up.
15 minutes and what's it do?
It's supposed to be incredible for anti-aging.
I'm down for that.
Yeah.
15 minutes of glory?
15 minutes of like, ah!
Just the worst podcast of all time.
I would think it'd be a fun podcast because for the rest of the time, you'd be fine.
So beforehand, you'd be fine.
And then for 15 minutes, you'd be like, oh, I shit my pants.
And then you do that for 15 minutes.
And then how happy we'll be after 15 minutes.
After it's over, you feel great.
We'll have Talon in here making fun of us.
Yeah, eating cheese and shit.
Yeah.
No, he can't eat cheese anymore.
Psoriasis is too bad.
What?
He has horrible psoriasis.
He can't eat cheese?
No.
What's he eating?
He's on some weird diet.
He refuses to take the proper medication.
He's one of those guys, huh?
He's on a diet.
Isn't it funny that he would make fun of anti-vaxxers, but he wouldn't take medication?
That's fucking crazy.
He's crazy.
What medication does he not take?
Does it fuck with him or something?
No, he says it solves it for a little bit, but it's not a complete problem.
It's my diet.
I'm like, dude, whatever you're doing, just use the goddamn ointment.
Well, you know, George Peterson said-
Go see the psoriasis kid in Tampa, by the way, this weekend.
Oh, where's he at?
Tampa Improv.
Tampa Improv.
Psoriasis kid.
Don't look down on him from the third floor, though.
Tampa Improv has three floors.
Yeah, I know.
Look down from the top.
You see that bald spot.
Yeah, I know.
You want to sit lower level.
You don't see his legs or his bald spot.
Tampa Improv, that's a weird area.
That's like Igor City, right?
Igor, yeah.
I was just there.
Did you like it?
I loved it.
Fun people.
Hell yeah.
I love Texas, man.
Jordan Peterson cured his psoriasis with a carnivore diet.
He did that carnivore diet where all he eats is meat.
That's all he eats.
Red meat.
And he got rid of it.
Yep.
That's all he eats.
Brian should fucking try that,
man.
Whatever he's doing,
his legs are so bad.
Yeah.
That sucks,
man.
Psoriasis is a rough one.
Stress too.
You know,
he's torn a lot.
Stress.
He's been traveling.
He has a show coming up.
Yep.
He has a special. A has a show coming up. Yep. And he has a special.
A lot of shit, son.
So how many times are you going up a week now?
Last week I went up four times.
Damn.
Yeah, at least three.
I'm stressed out. Three nights?
I'm stressed out this week because I'm on the road on Saturday, Oklahoma, and I'm doing
a set at the Ice House and hopefully a set at Laugh Factory, too, if I can make them.
But I always want to be at the Ice House and hopefully a set at Laugh Factory too if I can make them. But I always, yeah,
I always want to be at the Comedy Store, man.
Yeah, anywhere you can get up though, man.
You do the Ha Ha at All?
No.
It's a good spot.
Just go down there.
I'm going to do,
Neil Brennan has a show,
West Side Comedy Club, I think.
Yeah, I heard it.
Is that in Venice?
Venice, yeah.
Santa Monica.
Oh, okay.
I heard that's really good.
Yep, me too.
I think Callum was telling me about that too. That's close too. Yeah, it's close to you, yeah. Santa Monica. Oh, okay. I heard that's really good. Yep, me too. I think Callum was telling me about that too.
That's close too. Yeah, it's close to you,
right? Super close. Alright, so anything
else? Is there anything else we need to talk about before
we wrap this bitch up, young Jamie? Covet it, right?
Anything crazy that happened during the podcast
you need to let us know about? No?
Nothing? Nothing crazier today. Not today?
Crazier than normal. I'm in Spokane
next week. Spokane, Washington.
Okay. And then first two weeks of August, Texas. Can't get enough. I'm in Austin,ane next week Spokane, Washington And then first two weeks of August
Texas, can't get enough
I'm in Austin, Cap City
And then Dallas Improv second week
Get you some Texas
Addison Improv, that one?
No, I think it's Dallas Improv
It might be Addison
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Joey Diaz.
Oh, snap.
Oh, shit.
That's right.
Tomorrow's 4th of July.
Oh, Josh Barnett sent me a text message.
He said, I'd be more than happy to come on and explain the whole deal with USADA.
Boom.
Boom.
Shout out to Josh Barnett.
Shout out to the War Master.
All right.
Tomorrow, Joey Diaz, 11 a.m. See you.
Bye.