The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #43 with Brendan Schaub

Episode Date: October 2, 2018

Joe is joined by Brendan Schaub to preview UFC #229 and some more future fights. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Still no main event for Madison Square Garden. I don't know. Four, three, two, one. Booyah. Yeah, no main event for Madison Square Garden so far. The rumors were John Jones and Gustafson, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why that hasn't materialized.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Are they just waiting to announce it until after the whole Conor Khabib thing? Why would they do that? I think if they announce something, it's got to be this weekend. I mean, what is it, November 3rd or something? It's soon. So it's a month. Super soon. Literally a month.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Today's the 3rd, right? 2nd? Today's the 2nd. Today's the 2nd. Yeah. Fuck, man. That ain't good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Maybe they just don't want to steal any shine from the Conor Khabib fight. I don't think so. I don't know, man. I think they just don't want to steal any shine from the Conor Khabib fight. I don't think so. I don't know. I think they just don't have a card yet. I think they were banking on Jones to fill that main event, but it's been tricky to fill that slot. But also, why not have, if you're going to do this, why not announce Nate Diaz doesn't pour as your main event? That's a great main event. I can ride with that.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Why not do that and then announce Jon Jones and Gusones and gus finn or john jones and kane if you want to but the main event is to be announced versus to be determined that's the weirdest main event i've ever seen i've never seen a fucking pay-per-view um a month out that says to be announced versus to be determined in the main event does that mean they have somebody booked and then not an opponent for them and they're not even announcing it? Or is it just like decided to just be funny and write both first? That's a very good point, Jamie. That's a good point, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:01:31 That's a very good point. I would say they have no idea. I think you just nailed it. I think they have a guy that they want to fight another guy. I'd heard, actually I heard from you. Damn, bro. They were trying to do John Jones versus Kane. That was the rumor mill that I got.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Little birdie told me. Yeah, I'm all over that. I would be all over that. This card's actually better than this weekend's card. Stylebenders fighting Derek Brunson. That's a great fight. That's the sleeper. That's the sleeper on that card right there.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We got Luke Rockwell, Chris Weidman, too. That's a good fight, too. I forgot about that. David Branch ain't terrible either. Where is Rockhold and Weidman on there? The bottom middle. What? They're not in order yet.
Starting point is 00:02:15 No. What? This thing's all over the place. It's like a puzzle? The guy who runs the UFC website took the month off. Rockhold versus Weidman. Very interesting. website took the month off rockhold versus weidman very interesting that listen gegard musasi was the that guy is the fucking sleeper of the 185 pound division the fact that he went over
Starting point is 00:02:32 to bellator very fucking fascinating to me he just wrecked rory mcdonald completely wrecked them it's tough to watch rory should not be fighting at 185 pounds especially against a guy who's fought at 205. He's held titles at 205. I agree. Especially a guy in Gegard Mousasi who's just as talented, just as skilled. Maybe better. Might be better in some other aspects.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Then when you go skill for skill, then size comes into play. And you saw how that pans out. Bert Krusche says Mousasi has a giant dick. How would he know? He was in a sauna next to him. Oh, that makes sense. You know what? Mousasi has a giant dick. How would he know? He was in a sauna next to him. Oh, that makes sense, though. You know what? Mousasi has that big dick energy.
Starting point is 00:03:09 He just carries himself like a straight badass, doesn't he? He does. Like, nothing really gets him going. You know why? Because he's a giant dick. Giant dick. You know what? Bert's probably right on this.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Makes sense. God, this makes sense. You're brilliant, Bert Kreischer. Well, he saw it. I mean, it's not even like he figured it out. I mean, he's got like eyewitness. He's seen that thing. He's there.
Starting point is 00:03:32 He's in the room. Nothing's ever made more sense than that. He's a hot cedar box with a big old sweaty dick. Dude, that Gay Guard Amsterdam dick. Everyone's like, how come he doesn't get more emotional? Because he has the fattest dick in the world. He swore it was bigger than his fucking water bottle. I go, fatter?
Starting point is 00:03:50 Fatter than the water bottle? He goes, dude, I'm telling you, it was giant. I'm like, wow. All right. That makes sense, man. It does make a lot of sense. Yeah, but Gegard Mousasi. Now Bellator is an interesting kind of predicament because they have that welterweight tournament going on.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Now you have your champ who's going to enter the tournament as the title holder in the first round supposed to fight john fitch who isn't an easy fight but he's just coming off a loss and got destroyed and also it looks like he had some nose damage which was his issue before yeah his nose had been fucked up for a long time and you know he decided to take a whole year off just to try to fix his nose just try to let it heal that's serious yeah whole year off i mean think about that was like part of the delay in his initial fight in bellator was that he left the ufc you know his nose got smashed in the robbie lawler fight i mean that was hard to watch remember when he was in agony on the ground because his nose just shattered he said every time he get hit hit, it'd just go white like sparks.
Starting point is 00:04:46 He couldn't see anything. It was a bad injury, man. Well, hey, there it is. There he is. One of the best fights of all time, by the way. One of the greatest fights. One of the greatest fights. For sure.
Starting point is 00:04:54 He earned that shit. Yeah. But now with Rory, what's sad too, and it's happened to me, it's happened to some other fighters, I'm sure. But Rory goes goes i just didn't get i just didn't feel like fighting i did i wasn't in wasn't in the zone just didn't feel like fighting gay guard musashi that night that's a annoying gay guard you know musashi who he he doesn't get enough recognition how good that he he is he's an absolute monster you got to think
Starting point is 00:05:21 about all the guys that he's beaten oh he's on like a six or seven fight win streak, which includes Chris Weidman, Vitor Belfort, Talos Leitis. Who's the guy in Bellator? The former champion? Shlomenko? Yeah, I always call him, I won't call him Shevchenko, that's fucked up. That's the girl. Shlomenko, something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Yeah. He's an absolute nightmare. He's a monster. He's the girl. But Shlomenko, something like that. He's an absolute nightmare. He's a monster. He's a monster. I'm surprised the UFC let him go. Now, when I say let him go, it just didn't match his contract, you know, because Bellator probably offered more, and they're like, ah, we're good. The UFC could use him right now at 185.
Starting point is 00:05:57 They certainly could, yeah. Well, I mean, it's like they had Yoel Romero. They've got Robert Whitaker, who's the champ. They've got so much going on at 185. But Gegard might be the best. I mean, he's certainly in the running. If you looked at it objectively, it's entirely possible. If he's not number one, he's number two.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Top three, easily. Number three, yeah. But also, you look at his fight. If him and Robert Whitaker were to fight, that's not an easy pick-em fight. You'd be like, damn, that's a fucking fight. You're my favorite game guard. You don't know. For how big and long he is and scrapping.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Listen, Robert Whitaker is a monster. He's phenomenal. My favorite 85er. But so is Musashi. So is Musashi. And Musashi has a full game, man. His ground game is phenomenal. And the biggest dick in the division.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Giant dick. That has to be taken into consideration for all this. No, Yoel's, I bet it's bigger. No way. I bet it's bigger. No, bro. He doesn't carry that energy. He's too aggressive.
Starting point is 00:06:54 What? Yeah, when you're that aggressive, you don't have that fat of a dick. There's no way he looks like that and doesn't have a big dick. I don't know, dude. You see Batman? Batman the comic drew a dick, and that's Batman. You know what I'm saying? Yeah the comic drew a dick, and he's, that's Batman. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, Batman has a dick now. What? The new comic, there's like this new like kind of X-rated Batman they're coming out with, and they show Batman's dick. That's how I pictured Yo Romero. This isn't Batman. This is nonsense. These are millennials. This is nonsense.
Starting point is 00:07:20 These are just fucking millennials that think they're going to rewrite history. They're making Iron Man a woman. They're crazy. Yeah, that's true. These people are out of their history. They're making Iron Man a woman. They're crazy. Yeah, that's true. These people are out of their fucking mind. Captain America's now a woman. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Iron Man's probably gay. There's a weird revolution right now in comics because they're trying to sort of social justice warrior up all the comedy, all the comic books. What's going on? What are you laughing at? It is true. It is true. Hulk Hogan's...
Starting point is 00:07:49 Look at this. DC Comics, sorry for showing everyone Batman's penis. That's your old Romero, bro. Yeah. No, it's good size. That's not real. That's not real. See, that's a comic book, and it's a comic book that's, by the way, was created in like
Starting point is 00:08:02 what was... Let's just take a guess when Batman was created. I'm going to guess like 1940. Super old school, 1940, 1950s, probably 50s. You can't rewrite Batman's dick in 2018. Also, think about the guy drawing it. Probably didn't have the biggest dick. Probably his tiny little dick.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And just mad. Yeah, mad. But maybe he thought that was massive. Probably thought it was the biggest dick he's ever seen. Yeah. Probably scared to watch porn. And then got backlash. He's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:08:27 I thought this was a big cock. And everyone's like, no, dude. Not for Batman. It's Batman, you prick. Yeah. Batman is the weirdest superhero ever because he's basically just a rich guy. He's Elon Musk on steroids and can fight. He's Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah. Yeah, basically. That's what he is. With a bunch of stuff. Yeah, no special skills. Well, he knows how to fight. Yeah. But he doesn't have any superpower. There's nothing. He. With a bunch of stuff. Yeah, no special skills. Well, he knows how to fight. Yeah. But he doesn't have any superpower.
Starting point is 00:08:47 There's nothing. He's still rich, dude. That's why I got angry at that Batman versus Superman movie. I'm like, bitch, Superman would... First of all, he moves so fast, he can make the Earth spin backwards in reverse time. Dude, he has lasers in his eyes for God. There's no fight. But they're like, Batman may a suit out of kryptonite. Superman would fuck him up before he even got the suit on.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah, it's not even a fight. How's Lex Luthor a valiant adversary for him? He's not. Okay. He's just bored. He's bored. Keeps that dude around like a side piece. He just wants to have some fun.
Starting point is 00:09:26 He's like, let this guy pretend he's kicking my ass. Venom drops this weekend. Yeah. Tom Hardy? You know what? Maybe I'm just a Debbie Downer, but I don't know. It looks all right to me. And I know I love Tom Hardy, too.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Venom is like an evil Spider-Man. What is that? He's like Spider-Man's alien. It's an alien? Yeah, it's an alien element that grabs someone's body. It's an alien that merges with his body. Yeah, and he's evil. I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Fucking kids today. I know. I know, man. I know. I mean, I guess it's better than remaking the Hulk for the 98th time. I'll take it. I mean, how many Spider-Mans are there now? There's like 80 Spider-Mans. Whenever Spider-Man starts making some money, they go like, nah, player. We got a new one.
Starting point is 00:10:12 We need a new one, bro. We got a new one. Tobey Maguire's my Spider-Man. Yeah. If your Spider-Man's anyone else, fuck you. Yeah, fuck you. Yeah. That's the real Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Hell yeah. It's like, they had two new ones since him, right? Isn't it? You've been to one guy that never even got any traction. Tom Holland. Who the fuck's Tom Holland? Sorry, Tom. They want to make.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I'm sure you're wonderful. They want to make Donald Glover Splatterman. I think he's the voice in this cartoon they just announced today. This comes out this. Into the Spider-Verse gets stunning new trailer ahead of New York Comic Con. I was talking to Chris Pratt about Comic Con. What'd he say? You know, because he's got to go there for Guardians of the Galaxy.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Oh, dude, he's probably like, what the fuck? He's like, he goes, I'm in the middle of this place, and I just said to myself, I don't belong here. Yeah. I don't belong here. It's a different vibe. He is the nicest guy. He goes to a bunch of UFC events, yeah? Yeah, he's been to one.
Starting point is 00:11:02 There's only one. Is that where you talked to him at? Yeah. He came hunting with us in Utah. Oh, nice. Yeah. That's been to one. He's only at one. Is that where you talked to him at? Yeah. He came hunting with us in Utah. Oh, nice. Yeah. That's cool. He's the fucking nicest guy.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Like, so normal around everybody. Good hunter? Yeah. Real good. Good archer. People forget he started off as a comedian actor. Yes. He was like the funny guy.
Starting point is 00:11:20 What was that show he was on? The Office? Parks and Rec. Parks and Rec, yeah. He was like the funny guy. He was pudgy back then. Now he's all jacked. Isn't it weird?
Starting point is 00:11:27 Someone was like, dude, you're going to be the next action hero. He's like, what? Here's a boatload of steroids. Do that. I don't even think it was that. I think he just lost the weight and everybody went, oh. You know, he was a wrestler in high school and college. Was he really?
Starting point is 00:11:38 In college? Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Good wrestler. I can't tell this story. I saw him wrestling with nogara yeah he actually looked pretty good who's wrestling with nogara yeah there's a video of him wrestling the good
Starting point is 00:11:50 yeah and i was like damn that dude knows what he's doing i had no idea he was a you know wrestling he bought a a farm in uh like outside of seattle and raises animals and actually has like a farm, like a real, I think the way they call it, just like very humane, ethical treatment of the animals. Like the animals are all like super adjusted to human beings. And then when they whack them, they just take them into a room and put one in their brain. And he does it or this is just his crew?
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's him and Noguera. Yeah, look at this. But for, you know, I had no idea. I just thought he was a normal actor. Like most time when you watch actors, brain and he does it or this is just his career it's him and nogara yeah look at this but for you know i had no idea i just thought he was a normal actor like most time when you watch actors like look at this bullshit yeah no you look at his setup everything yeah no he knows how to wrestle he wrestled in college and in high school well you know if he's feeling frisky the ufc is looking for fighters these days i don't know what he's looking good luck paying that guy that guy's making 20 million dollars a movie how the the fuck are you going to pay him
Starting point is 00:12:46 for that? We'll figure it out. That's Star-Lord, bro. Come up with your own whiskey, bro. Who's someone else besides Star-Lord, too? What other movies does he do? He's got a galaxy. Jurassic Park. That's right. Jurassic Park, too. He's the dinosaur wrangler, bro. He's the dinosaur wrangler Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:13:02 He speaks to the raptors. And here's the thing he came in like you know there was already jurassic park before and he came in with a new jurassic with the hotness with no hiccups no one was like bullshit with this new jurassic park there was none of that better yeah it got better the animation got better too the dinosaurs got super legit i haven't seen the newest one, though. It's fucking badass. Is it good?
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah. Loved it. Loved it. Freaked my kid out, though. A little one had a barrier head in my armpit during some of the scenes. Yeah, those fucking things are scary as shit. Those things look legit. They look real.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You know, they're redoing the Dress Park ride at Universal. They're redoing it? Yeah, they should. It's whack as fuck. Yeah, now it's just that T-Rex. No, the guy I was talking to, I heard an interview. The guy was like, no, we're redoing it with Yeah, they should. It's whack as fuck. Yeah, now it's just that T-Rex. No, the guy I was talking to, I heard an interview. The guy was like, no, we're redoing it with all the new dinosaurs, everything. Yeah, there's some good shit at Universal.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And then there's some stuff that you're like, what? Old school. Well, you know what's badass? The Harry Potter ride. Have you taken Little Man to the Harry Potter ride? No, he's not big enough still. He's only two and a half. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I think you have to be like 40 inches or some shit. But the Jurassic Park ride is whack. You know what's great the simpsons simpsons is dope i've done hilarious simpsons great that's a great ride dude as a grown-ass man just i got a babysitter for my kid and me my girl went to six flags oh dude six flags is badass so much fun you know what's surprisingly good kn Knott's Berry Farms. It's very old school, a little vintage. Some of the fucking rides are amazing. To me, they're a little suspect.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Like a year ago. Suspect like they might break? Yeah. Like the wood roller coaster. I'm like, really? It's like rattling. When's the last time someone checked this goddamn thing? I didn't go on that one, but I went on one where you're sitting in your seat like this, right? And then you go like this.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Clink. You go straight up. So your back, like if you fell, you would fall right on your back. It's over. And then you get to the top and you pause and then they turn you like this and then it's... Yeah! That's pretty fun. That's pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It was the best roller coasters i've ever been on not as i've skeptical hippo eyes because when you get there their whole theme is charlie brown it's like who the fuck's watching charlie brown these days everyone asks this spider-man marvel you got disney with mickey they got charlie brown my kids like who the fuck i didn't even notice charlie brown it was all like there's a Wild West theme area. Oh, it's random as shit at Knott's Bay. It's a bunch of random weird things. But their main slogan is Charlie Brown. Well, we had a good time.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Me and the family had a good time. We had a good time, man. You know what? I'll tell you what, though. Overall best ride I've ever been on, 100%, is Disney World. The Jurassic, not the Jurassic Park, the Avatar ride. The Avatar ride in Orlando.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It's called Flights of Passage, I think it is. Dude, beyond the greatest ride ever. It's all virtual reality. You climb into a chair like you're on a motorcycle. It pushes against your back and you settle into this thing and then you put these goggles on, like this headset thing on, and you're in full virtual reality and this is it.
Starting point is 00:16:11 God damn. This is the one where you're on the boat. There's two actual Avatar rides. This one's pretty dope too. That looks legit. That looks like Avatar World. Yeah. This one, that's pretty dope too.
Starting point is 00:16:22 That one, you're on a boat like Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah, this is it. I like the boats. The boat's pretty badass. But this one, you're flying in full virtual reality while you're riding on the back of one of those dragon things. I mean, I've seen better graphics on, but- No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You're just not getting- This isn't doing it. No, when you're there- I can't film their screen and just put it on YouTube. Yeah. It sounds nice, though. And if they film their screen, they're not even filming their screen in 3D, right? No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So he's just using his cell phone. That's why it looks all blurry. Is the line long as shit? Long as shit. Yeah. And then while you're doing it, you get breezes in your face and you smell things. It's fucking incredible, man. It feels real.
Starting point is 00:17:00 It's the best ride I've ever been on, by far. I've been on some dope rides. That's numero uno with a bullet. By far? By far. Oh, wow. Yeah, I did ever been on, by far. Like, I've been on some dope rides that's numero uno with a bullet. By far. By far. Oh, wow. Yeah, I did it two times in a row. Dude, I'm a sucker for the old school.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I like the Haunted Mansion. Haunted Mansion's badass. It's one of the old school ones, man. And then they put in, what is it, Nightmare Before Christmas? Yes. Big Jack. Yeah, right around Halloween time. I love Halloween.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Love it. Yeah, have you taken him to Disneylandneyland yet oh yeah season pass oh it's the shit sometimes feel like he's getting spoiled because you know when i'm working my girl i take him and her friends and they go he's going when he's not in school he's in school now but two times a week you know disneyland oh yeah they go just to chill a little dude screwed when he told her i know that is so spoiled it was such a big deal when i was a kid it was such a big deal didn't you go with joey diaz and joey's family did you go with joey no that was eddie oh that's right eddie won't yeah that's gotta be a trip yeah fun it's uh disneyland when you have kids becomes a totally different thing it's a special place.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah, I was like, before I had kids, I was like, I'm not going to fuck at Disneyland. You know? Like, if I was 20 and someone said, hey, man, you want to go to Disneyland? I'd be like, why? What are we going to do? Are we going to ride a roller coaster and wait for an hour and a half? Split a funnel cake and suck each other off? What's wrong with you, man?
Starting point is 00:18:21 And those, what are those fucking, those, the ones, the brown sugar churros. Oh, dude, I love those. Nice churro. God damn, those are hard to pass out. God, the smell. Dude, you can't be on a diet and go to Disneyland. It's hard. The almonds they have.
Starting point is 00:18:36 They get you, bro. Oh, yeah. Roasted almonds. The churros do? No, not in the churro, but like the, yeah, the stands all over the place. Yeah, they have like the candied almonds. No, they have one thing that's guilt-free, though. That big old turkey leg.
Starting point is 00:18:50 That smoked turkey leg. That thing makes me feel sick when I see just these enormous people just chowing down, and then the meat's all pink in the middle for whatever reason. Well, it's smoked. Is everyone out of shape at Disneyland? It's a weird vibe. They're not out of shape. They're ambulatory.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Oh, dude. Yeah. There's more people that can't walk. Is everyone out of shape at Disneyland? It's a weird vibe They're just not out of shape They're ambulatory Oh dude Yeah There's more people that can't walk They're just on scooters Because they got so big Their body just stopped moving God Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:13 It's a strange vibe though You can't be on a diet and go to an amusement park You gotta accept that you're gonna fuck off that day For sure That's a fuck off day That's like We're gonna get some ice cream I'm gonna drink a regular soda
Starting point is 00:19:24 Ugh Ugh Dude I'll tell you where else you can't be on a diet Chicago I was there a few weeks ago That's a fuck off day. That's like, we're going to get some ice cream. I'm going to drink a regular soda. Do I tell you where else she can't be on a diet? Chicago. I was there a few weeks ago. I'm like, fuck it. Did you go to Illuminati's? I ate every pizza.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And I apologize to every crowd beforehand. That is not a pizza. That is a goddamn casserole. It is a straight. It's a casserole. It's a lasagna. It's a pie. It's a pie. It's a pie.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Dude, I felt so sick after them. But it was so nice going down. I felt so sick. That's a weird. It's a pie. It's a pie. Dude, I felt so sick after them. But it was so nice going down. I felt so sick. That's a weird sacrifice, right? You decide, I'm going to be sick for a few hours for just a few seconds of mouth pleasure. Yeah. And, like, again, I apologize to the crowds. I'm like, you shouldn't be doing this, man.
Starting point is 00:19:58 This is like a fighter missing weight. Like, it's such an asshole move. My face is all swollen from the sodium. Look at that. Look at that. Which one was that? That was at the place where it's the famous place
Starting point is 00:20:15 the grinder where it comes in a bowl. That is a gay dating app. It's also a delicious pizza. Chicago pizza. Chicago grinder? Oven grinder. I wonder if they're bummed out that Grindr is all sucking dicks and butt fucking.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I know, you thought you were going to get a deep dish and a blowjob. Here's your deep dish, bitch. But it's that same place where Al Capone and his men staked out before they did the St. Valentine's Day Massacre. Really? So it's like a historic place. Oh, so it's old as fuck. Two hour wait. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Two hour wait. You waited two hours for food. It's a two hour wait. It's a two hour wait. Wow. I put my name and strolled around. Oh, good move. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:00 You gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah. There's no freebies here. Don't give a fuck. Phew. That's a lot of food man They don't fuck around people get cold That's the thing if you live in a place where people get cold like Boston or Chicago people get thick
Starting point is 00:21:13 Do you think this yeah, they get stuff it starts to work out in the cold man No, not just that it like it insulates you and that makes sense if you want to live in you don't want to be shredded You know shredded near that water the wind comes off that lake. Oh, that makes sense. If you want to live in a place like... You don't want to be shredded. You don't want to be shredded near that water. I know. The wind comes off that lake. Makes sense. You ever been to Chicago in January? Yes. Woo! Miserable. Cold as fuck. Not my cup of tea. It's a great place to perform, though.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah. Audiences are amazing. Amazing. They're just fun. They're fun people. You know what they are? They're a unique combination of the Midwest and a giant city. Same as Toronto. Toronto is like that, too. Love Toronto.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But it's the same kind of vibe. It's a weird combination of really nice, almost small-town people that live in a giant urban city. And Toronto's a melting pot. To me, Toronto reminds me of New York, not with the hustle and cleaner. Yeah, way cleaner. I love Toronto. More polite people, too. Way nicer.
Starting point is 00:22:08 You get Indian people, Pakistani, black, Asian, white, European. You get everybody in Toronto. Now, on the other end of that, I was just in Seattle, Washington, and the crowd was all white. All white. That is the white capital. I was the darkest dude in the building. Yeah, them and Portland, they all white. All white. That is the white capital. That was the darkest dude in the building. Yeah, them in Portland, they're white as fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Even if you're black, after a few generations, you just turn white. And you start talking white. If you bring your family up there and you plan on staking out a black existence in Portland. Good luck. Good luck. Even if your kids only date other black kids,
Starting point is 00:22:44 after like 100 years, everyone's going to be white. Everyone. There's no son. There's no son. That son for three months a year? Look, there's a reason why people became white. I mean, everyone really comes from Africa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's one of the real reasons why racism is so stupid. Every single fucking human being came from Africa, just like every single fucking dog came from a wolf. human being came from Africa, just like every single fucking dog came from a wolf. Every person started out as an African. It's just as we move to shittier and shittier places with less and less sun, your body adapted. And basically, white skin is like a big old solar panel for vitamin B, or vitamin D, rather. And obviously, we don't. I don't know anyone who is racist these days, though.
Starting point is 00:23:26 They're out there for sure. But I don't have anyone that I even associate with. But even jokingly, you're like, I don't like Asians. Or I don't like... That is exhausting. I don't know any. No. Or any that are doing well. No.
Starting point is 00:23:42 It's a stupid mindset. It's a stupid mindset. It just really is. It's No. It's a stupid mindset. It's a stupid mindset. It just really is. It's dumb. Just as, I mean. It's very old school. Well, it's just, it doesn't benefit you in any way.
Starting point is 00:23:59 It's super detrimental for your view of the world, the way you interact with people. Just, it's dumb. I mean, I know so many cool people of every single race like what you know I mean, why would you stupid? It's like judging white people off a few small portion sample size of like mass shooters I think that dumbasses shoot up the high schools. Well this you know, there's like blowback the other way, right? Like there's a lot of people think it's okay to be racist against white people Because so many white people have been racist in the past, but that's just as foolish and just as short-sighted.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Everyone's different. Yeah, it's all stupid. It's like today with all this Me Too stuff, it seems like it's okay to be sexist against men because there are awful men out there. But there's also men that are nice and they're going to be nice to you. There's also some awful women out there who do have other agendas when they come out with these Me Too claims. There's a lot of that. Well, you're seeing.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I mean, we're seeing these cases now. We're seeing these cases get exposed for what they are. And the problem is that it casts doubt on legitimate cases. What is going on with my throat? Something about these goddamn caveman coffees. Really? Early in the morning. That makes me think.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I'm good, though. Sometimes it's dairy. Well, I'm like, damn, something. Did you think, if you were in Louis C.K.'s shoes, do you think he came back too soon? I don't think it's that he came back too soon. What I honestly think is he should say something more than what he already said. Not just go up like it's all good and like, all right.
Starting point is 00:25:32 There's not just – I mean he said – he put out – released a statement. These stories are true. They happened a long time ago, right? They happened like more than a decade ago. more than a decade ago. I think he should, and I think it might be even better to release a video rather than a written statement
Starting point is 00:25:51 because a written statement, the problem is it's impersonal. It's personal. Seems fake. Yeah, well, it's not even, not only that it's not as impactful, I want to, but what is he going to say?
Starting point is 00:26:02 It's like I can't fix it. Maybe if he donated a certain amount of money to certain causes or, you know, spent, you know, time in therapy or talked about it and X and maybe expressed himself and said that what was, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:20 what was going on through, through, through in his mind during that time when he did that thing and why it was wrong yeah and how he's changed his his way and how bad he feels about it how he's apologizing he has daughters i think i think you get all that done by just doing a video with his i think you'd go so much further for him if he didn't have a big production nothing he's a creative dude obviously a great comedian if you just went off the top of his head straight into the camera and posted on Instagram, it was like, hey, man, I've paid a price.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I've learned I have daughters. It's a horrible thing that I did. I mean, even stay away from I've paid a price because people don't really want to hear that shit. Like, what is the price? But they don't think he has. Well, they're crazy. He's lost millions of dollars. They don't realize that.
Starting point is 00:27:03 They think, oh, he's fine. He should get back on the road and touring. He's going to be a millionaire. Well, he's lost a ton of money off his shows, FX deal, development deal. And more importantly, his daughters have this image of him being this guy who jerks off in front of women. That's never going to go away either. No. So that's a pretty heavy stamp.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Which is deserved. Maybe not forever. But it's a complicated issue you know it's complicated like what was his psychology what was going on in his mind that allowed him to do that apparently he just started going up again he just went up again Sunday night oh yeah he just went he went up and I guess the the owner of the club was like dude I didn't know I was asleep and went up you know it's the crowd's discretion if they want to stay or leave. Well, the first time the owner was upset, and the second time they said something along the lines of, if anyone has an issue with someone who stops in, a.k.a. Louie, I mean, it's only Louie.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. Maybe Aziz, I guess. Really? Well, no. Yeah, apparently some people got upset about Aziz, too. Still? Yeah, dude, look, people got upset about Aziz, too. Still? Yeah, dude, look. People just like targets.
Starting point is 00:28:07 They like targets. They like negativity. They like negativity, but they also like targets. When they find someone who's a viable target, someone who's done something they can criticize, and they go, you, what have you done? You. Oh, you're still alive. You.
Starting point is 00:28:22 What have you done? You. Oh, you're still alive. There's people that just want to decide that someone's a horrible person, and they don't have this really well thought out, comprehensive view of the situation. They just attack. There's a lot of those people out there, man. And they think that they're justified, particularly if that person's famous and they're not they feel it's fair game yeah public forum so people were definitely upset at Aziz but much much more upset about Louie Oh
Starting point is 00:28:52 hundred percent when you stop and think about what Louie actually did creepy yes asked women if he could jerk off in front of them they said yes he did it if they said no he didn't I mean it's it's fucking look if you're working with a guy like that, he's like, can I jerk off in front of you? I'm like, Jesus Christ. Can you imagine? What the fuck? It would be a shitty work environment for sure. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And he is not handsome. Louis, I love you brutal to look at. You know what I'm saying? He's harsh on the eyes. It's not like Brad Pitt's asking to jack off in front of you. Right. Not that it's ever right, but do less on the feelings if Brad Pitt's yanking in front of you. I mean, all of it's no bueno.
Starting point is 00:29:32 It's a whole mess. Yeah. I mean, he obviously had some sort of a weird kink, you know? I wonder what that is. He probably started in childhood, maybe got caught and then got off on it. Right, right. Or he just never got chicks, and now he has this power because he's such a, you know. He didn't have the power when he started doing it though, man.
Starting point is 00:29:48 When he started doing it, he wasn't really famous. He was respected, but he wasn't really famous. But he was like this now, yeah. No. Which is, it's, you know, it's awful. But it's just a thing that he's stuck with now. So he's got to figure out how to ingratiate himself. He's got to figure out how to re-emerge.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And I think... He can do it. I think he can do it. I'm sure he can do it. Look, he's not an awful person. No. I just think he did some stupid things that are really gross and weird. But if he just...
Starting point is 00:30:23 I mean, and he has owned up to it i think he just you know make some sort of a sincere apology and then does something like what could you do to to i mean what do you help female comics maybe do a do he's done that he's tried to help but a lot of people accused him of trying to help them to try to cover up his tracks. Well, fuck, man. He has to do something. He has to go back to work. Yeah. I mean, it's been a year now, right? It's a year next month.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I think to expect him to just never work again seems ridiculous. It's crazy. And to not forgive him. There has to be a path to redemption for anyone who's done anything other than actual rape or murder right like for bill cosby i'm very happy he's locked up i think what he did is awful can you imagine being one of those girls that turned to him as a mentor and you wake up and you know you're you've been violated while you're out cold and you're drugged and you're confused and bill cosby did it to you and who the fuck is going to believe that his image is that's the thing about louis right like
Starting point is 00:31:29 louis image was like he's a pervert he's a weirdo he's always talking about jerking off like when you found out louis ck asked girls if he could jerk off in front of him and did it it's like not the most surprising no but with bill cosby it's here's a guy who is, and I'm not comparing the, the acts at all, but I'm just saying as far as like famous people have done something that, you know, became a scandal with Bill, with Bill Cosby, he was this moral guy. He was this like ethics guy and he wore sweaters. America's dad. He was America's dad.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And to find out that that guy was drugging and raping women. He's in fucking jail right now, which is crazy. He's gonna die, I give it, over under a week? You think so? That's the way it goes with those old dudes. Really? Yeah. He's 81. His eyes are so crazy. He can't see.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I think the one's good. But the left one's all over the goddamn place. Which one is the one? I thought the right one's good. But the left one's all over the goddamn place. Which one is the one? I thought the right one was wack. I think it's this one, but it is fucking. Yeah, it's looking the wrong way. It's going on its own way. Yeah, that's what you get, man.
Starting point is 00:32:36 He's going to die any day now. I think a path to redemption or a path to retribution would be good. A path to forgiveness. That's something that's important for all human beings who've made mistakes. I think it's important. We can't just cast people out if they've made mistakes. Agree. I also think it's important, too, with all this stuff is like Louis C.K. got lumped in with the big dogs like Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Then there's Louis C.K. got lumped in with the big dogs like Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein. Then there's Louis C.K. And, man, there is definitely different levels to this. Yes. These fucking crimes. No question. No question. How about one that flies under the radar, especially here in America, and I was just reading about it, how true it is. Who knows with Ronaldo, who, you know, in soccer, ask your boy Ian Edwards.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I mean, there's – He's a super, superstar. Superstar. It would be like – it would basically be like Conor McGregor getting caught doing something in our world. This is a new one, right? This is a new one, yeah. This girl, you know, she said he kept telling them no and then he anally raped her and then paid her $375,000 to keep quiet.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Now she's coming back out. But who knows? Human beings. We're capable of such amazing things and such fucking awful things. I might have to look that up, Jamie. I might have been drained. No, I think you're right about that. My brother told me about it.
Starting point is 00:34:00 He's usually on it. That's what I just read in the New York Post. Yeah, we should probably go back to fights, right? Renato likes that booty. Yeah, we should go back to fights. Literally. I don't know how we get that. Dude, how excited are you about your special being dropped today?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Nervous at all? I was nervous before, yeah. Are you nervous about it? Yeah, man. Because it's a body of work you've been doing forever. I cared about it. I worked on it for two fucking years, you know? And you edited it yourself? Reviews are awesome. It came out great. I heard it's great. Cared about it. I worked on it for two fucking years, you know? And you edited it yourself?
Starting point is 00:34:26 Reviews are awesome. Came out great. I heard it's great. I'm excited. You know, it's the best. I think the best one I've ever done. I really do. I think the last one, I think Triggered was the best one.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And I think this one's better than that. That's how it should go, right? Yeah, I mean, that's how it should go. Just keep working. Keep trying to refine it and keep, you know raise my standards i learned some stuff still all these years doing stand-up i'm still learning i learned some stuff in the editing process really yeah well i learned some stuff just watching i think i i listen to recordings all the time um but i think i'm going to step my game up now and after talking to burt kreischer yesterday
Starting point is 00:35:01 burt uh he records audio and he also records video. And I think I'm going to start recording video of all my shows too now. It's tough. Oh, yeah, because when you're doing these giant theaters, so there's not video. Because like when I was at Parler or wherever I go, they usually have video capability. So I get all the video. That's nice. Always get the video.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Well, the Ice House can do that for me. That's true. And I could definitely get someone to do that for me at the store. But I just think it's critical to see the way you move as well as hear. You've got to analyze all that shit and try to figure out what – you've got to be natural and in the moment. But you've also got to analyze all the particulars and find out what – I would watch two or three different sets because I film four shows. And I was like, why didn't I do that in the second show? Like the way I did it there, that's the way to do it.
Starting point is 00:35:49 But I did it differently in this other show. I think the shitty part is watching yourself and listening to yourself. It takes a real type of asshole to do that. Right? It's the worst. It takes a real type of asshole to like it. Oh, dude. And it's like, that was good.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah. And it's you. Well, it's pretty good. Have you ever been over someone's house and they make you watch something that they did? Dude. Oh. This quarterback, Vinny Testaverde, he was a first round draft pick. He played forever.
Starting point is 00:36:17 We went to his house and he made me watch the recap of his last football season. No. A two hour NFL films recap of the Baltimore Ravens. And it was a two-hour nfl films recap of the baltimore ravens and it was a nightmare he made all of us sit there and recap it was so boring shut the fuck i promise i want to put a fucking bullet through my head but out of the respect of any test of and he beat my ass in basketball before that i stayed there and watched it. Who does that, though? I heard about a dude who he had a party over his house, and then when the people were over there, he made them listen to him sing a song.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Is it Brian Callen? Nope. Just kidding. Some other guy. I know who you're talking about because I think I was there. He played music and sang and was serious. During the middle of the Super Bowl, sir, put the Super Bowl on pause, and his band struck up a fucking song.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I looked around and went, is everyone a terrorist here? What the fuck is happening? Why is the game paused? I'm from Denver, Colorado. If you don't put that goddamn drumstick down, I'm going to flip the fuck out. That was the most Hollywood thing I've ever seen in my life. I went, well, I feel sick, and I'm going to leave now. I feel very sick.
Starting point is 00:37:36 In the middle of the fucking game, man, my Broncos were playing too. Oh, dude. People are so strange, man. I'm like, what the fuck? That's the most Hollywood thing I've ever seen in my life. Where I felt sick. Yeah, I've seen many of those. I was over someone's house once, and this guy ran outside to his car to get a video
Starting point is 00:37:55 to get us to watch a music video that he did, which was one of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life. People are great. And it was a music video, and it was a music video that looked like it was made for about $3. Oh, God. I was just like, what the fuck? And he's like singing all sincere in this music video. And we're all sitting around like we have to watch.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Like what the fuck? It's torture. Just compressing my chest in a vice. I'm like, I can't breathe. But you've never seen comics like play their hour special when they've had people over. I haven't seen that yet. But I'm sure it's happening. That's happening right now as we speak.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Right now, there's a guy who's like, come on, everybody sit down, sit down. It's time for my special. Come on, everyone get around. Yeah. All right. Yeah. We should probably talk fighting, though. What is he laughing at?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Bert did that? Bert Kreischer did that? No, he did that with his family, though. They had like a screening. No, they had like a specifically. Was it friends and family? It's friends, too? Yeah, but he. No, no, no. That with his family, though. They had like a screening. No, they had like a specifically. Was it friends and family? It's friends, too? Yeah, but he.
Starting point is 00:38:47 No, no, no. That's. I hear you. This is a different thing. Like he invited them to a screening of his special where that was the purpose. It wasn't like he threw it on in the middle of a party. Everybody sit down. Sit down.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Try to watch my special. Yeah, it's a little weird. Burn them. I'm enjoying the music and I got pizza here. That's a little different. Yeah, it's different. No, it was a screening and his agents were there and his managers were there and people that worked
Starting point is 00:39:11 at his... Do you have family come to your shooting your specials? No. Me neither. No. I don't like them at the shows. No, no, no. You know, if someone from my family comes and watches me, I mean, they come to a show yeah but they're not coming to the shooting of and i don't ever ask them to like if they want to like
Starting point is 00:39:31 but does your wife like to go or she's sometimes she i i have her come out like every six months or so just to see like tell me tell me is there anything new like what what's what's different because she's known you for so long, she would know. It's like, yeah. Here's the thing. If someone sees you every weekend, and I have friends that take their girlfriends on the road with them, and they get so bored with their act because they're watching a guy perform every night. Two nights in a row, two shows in a night.
Starting point is 00:40:06 They fucking, your act is nonsense to them. Dude, you're one of my favorite people on planet Earth. I'm at the comic store all the time. I've seen, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:13 you're set when you're in for this a bunch of times. And when I was leaving, someone's like, you're not gonna watch Joe? I'm like, dude, I've seen it,
Starting point is 00:40:18 man. It's not disrespectful. He understands. I've seen it though. I don't even watch like, seen it 10 times. I don't even watch my favorites. Even Joey, I'll sometimes leave the room
Starting point is 00:40:28 if he's on stage. You also don't want to get bored with someone's act. You can't watch them over and over and over and over and over again. But that's what happens with girlfriends. Girlfriends that go on the road with guys, they're watching two sets a night. What a terrible idea. Thursday,
Starting point is 00:40:43 Friday, Saturday blah and then they just think you suck just over it really this is what you do you tell the same story you pretend it's a new story and then if you have a new opening act like he's really funny like he's funny what about me he's funny I've seen you too many times like oh no yeah my brother used to think I was great he's really funny like he's funny what about me he's funny oh i've seen you too many times like oh no yeah my brother used to think i was great he's on the road to me every time and the other night go here we go again goes i feel like i could do your act i'm like motherfucker he's probably good right good he probably knows it by heart we used to do that in boston
Starting point is 00:41:19 we had a thing called joe biden night at stitches and joes. Joe Biden, who was the former vice president. People don't remember this, but in 1988, when he was running for president, he got busted retelling some of Kennedy's old speeches. Come on, man. This is in 88. Yeah. It was a big scandal. So we, and that kind of took him out of the running for being president for a long time. Although they're talking about it again for 2020.
Starting point is 00:41:49 But he, so we would do Joe Biden night at the comedy store. We're like, I would do your act. That's awesome. That's hilarious. People probably loved it. Oh, they loved it. It was, you know, like an off night. It was like a Monday.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Like you doing Joey Diaz? Yeah. It'd be fucking great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that would be good because I can do an impression of Joey. I know. Like a lot of it was just people just doing the material. Chris D'Elia does Callan.
Starting point is 00:42:11 It's fucking great. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, comedy's a weird thing. You know, you do it too many, I mean, that's one of the things about this special. It's like I got too close to it. You know, like when you're editing things and you're practicing it and you're doing it over and over again i know it's working i know i go to a client know it's gonna work i'm it's polished i practiced it i wrote it out i redid it i fucking edited it and changed it and twisted it and i know how to do it but i also don't want to hear it like i've
Starting point is 00:42:41 heard it too many times so you get too close to it so then when people are going to see it for the very first time you're like i don't know i don't know i hope they like it i just i came too close to it but you still get nervous even after all these years yes if you care you get nervous and it isn't it it's your it you're so close to this body of work like you said this is your baby you know i'm saying if someone's like dude that sucked like mother fucker yeah there's definitely people that are gonna think it sucks that's always gonna happen but my thing is the majority of my fans who like my comedy i want them to like correct and so for me it's like i was
Starting point is 00:43:16 confident i knew i did everything i could do i knew i know i'm a good comic and i know i've done everything i could do to make this my best one so i knew i was confident i knew it was a good comic and I know I've done everything I could do to make this my best one. So I knew I was confident. I knew it was a good special and I thought it was my best special. I'm very confident that it's my best special, but it's still, I'm too close to it. So I don't know. So I just like, I was wondering, I saw you post it. I'm like, I wonder if he's nervous about, I'd be nervous as fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:42 You get nervous. Look, it's a big deal. You know, Netflix put a lot of money and time and effort and promotion into this. And you don't want them to be embarrassed because they've been embarrassed a lot lately. They've had some fucking terrible specials that they put out. No comment. No comment. There's been some tough ones.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Anyway. You've got to take a couple swings. Anyway, it's Conor McGregor. Well, it's a good transition. This weekend, boy. I'll tell you this, dude. I'll tell you this. I'm not being a hater.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I'm not being some sort of Debbie Downer. I don't think it breaks two million pay-per-view buys. You might be right. I'm not seeing it, man. When Conor fought Floyd or when Conor, Nate Diaz too, I couldn't go anywhere. Without hearing about it. Starbucks, anywhere. Shoe store, car dealer.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Everyone went, dude, Conor Floyd, who you got, man? Everybody and their mom. Now, very rare. Maybe I want to my show, someone to bring it up. There's something that Conor didn't want to do for this fight, and that's massive promotion. So does that mean it's not as big? Like who's that following? Is that Conor or the UFC? Conor. It's both. He doesn't want to do for this fight, and that's massive promotion. So does that mean it's not as big? Like, who's that falling? Is that Conor or the UFC?
Starting point is 00:44:48 Conor. He doesn't want to do it. Well, the UFC has a model, right? And it worked in the Jose Aldo fight. That model is you just promote the holy fuck out of a fight. You travel the world. You promote the shit out of it. You scream at each other at press conferences.
Starting point is 00:45:03 You do all that stuff for months and months and months and those things sell like crazy. If it's Conor McGregor. If it's Conor McGregor. Who have they ever done it with besides Conor McGregor? Like that? No one really sells like that. A little bit with Ronda, I guess, but she didn't have the same kind of chops as Conor. So Conor's
Starting point is 00:45:20 the only one, but I don't know. Maybe it's because he had a layoff after the Floyd thing. I think it does well But I don't know. Maybe it's because he had a layoff. Maybe it's after the Floyd thing. I think it does well. I don't think it breaks Conor versus Nate, too. I don't think it breaks 1.6 million. What I think happened was Conor made $100 fucking million. And he was like, yeah, I'm just going to train.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You know what I think? I think there's that. And I also goes, that took so much energy to do all that, and everyone knows me as that guy. I have the toughest fight of my life coming up. I'm taking every precaution necessary not to overtrain, not to use all my energy. This, I'm in the fight of my life, and I'm going to train like it. I'm shutting down everything. You can post the fucking me throwing the dolly through the window 1,000 times.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I'll do the press conference on Thursday. Other than that, man, I have got to get ready for the fight of my life. That's the way I'm looking at it. I think you're right, and I think this is the fight of his life. I think stylistically it's a nightmare matchup. I think it's a nightmare matchup for both of them. I think anyone who goes, oh, Conor, he can't wrestle, he can't do this, he's just going to get taken down and pounded out.
Starting point is 00:46:23 You're so off it's not even funny. You don't do this. He's just going to get taken down and pounded out. You're so off, it's not even funny. You don't know the game, man. He absolutely is capable of stuffing a takedown or two in the early going. That's what's up. Because in the early going, he's got that stinger of a left hand. His movement. His footwork. His movement, his footwork, and Khabib is going to know that coming in.
Starting point is 00:46:42 He's going to be a little hesitant. He's not going to walk towards him like Edson Barboza did. Or he did in the Edson Barboza fight. He can't. Because Barboza is mostly kicks. Barboza throws a lot of kicks. A lot of tie-style kicks. And Khabib just put a tremendous amount of pressure on him and then got a hold of him.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But Conor's going to crack him with hands. And his footwork is way better. He's just way better at moving in and moving out. I think when people go, it's either Conor starches them and gets the KO, or Khabib just takes them down for five rounds and pounds them out. I think it's a classic fight. I think it's back and forth. I think it's a fucking dogfight.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I think it's a fight of our lives, man. I really do. I think you're probably right. I think you're getting a fucking great fight from two guys where there's more on the line than just win or lose. I think with Khabib and what he represents and talking to his team, his team captain, Josh Thompson, he goes, Khabib's going to retire after this. Really? He wants to beat Conor and retire. Really?
Starting point is 00:47:40 He wants to retire like the Floyd Mayweather of MMA, 27-0, beat the UFC's poster boy, and he walks off in the sunset. Unless they get him a super fight with GSP or something, he's done. Really? Wow. That's shocking. He's young. Very shocking. But think how long he's been doing this.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Yeah. His whole life. He's been fucking up grizzly bears. So he's like, all right, I'm over this, man. And not to mention, he lives with his family, man. He still lives with his mom and dad, his wife and his two kids, same house. Wow. That's the kind of monster you're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And then for Conor, I think it's a legacy fight where he's coming off the Floyd Mayweather kind of train there. It was a success either way you look at it. He made $100 million and he competed against the best of all time and lasted more rounds than anyone thought and trained for a complete boxing match, so his striking's going to be better going into this fight. But for him, it's not about the money. You see him, the one interview he's done on MacLife,
Starting point is 00:48:37 you can see it. It's like it's a vintage Conor. We go, oh, shit, we got one here, man. This isn't, you know, the Floyd Mayweather's more of a show. We didn't think he was going to win that. This one, you look at it, oh, shit, that's vintage Conor. This motherfucker's coming to fight. And he might get taken down.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yes, I guarantee you he gets taken down. That motherfucker's going to get back up. He's going to get up. He's going to keep getting up. And Khabib's going to keep coming. And we got a doc fight, man. I think both guys are going to be fucked up after this fight. It's going to be a classic.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It could be. Fast forward fucking. Khabib gets starched in seven seconds. People are just going to be playing this on a loop. Just playing this on a loop. Look, Khabib's got to get through the fire. He's got to get through the fire and the early going. He's got to close that distance, and he's got to do it with precision without letting his nerves affect him, right?
Starting point is 00:49:22 I mean, he's got all the shit-talking Conor's done to him. You've seen him rattle at the press conference. He's rattled. When he started talking about his dad, he's rattled. And I think we've also never seen Khabib fight with high stakes. Right. Like, when he fought Al Iaquinta, that wasn't high stakes. Al's an amazing fighter, but that's not the same as fighting Conor McGregor.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Right. When he's fighting Etienne Barboza, that's not high stakes. When you're fighting Conor McGregor, Connor takes all the chips on that poker table, puts it all in the middle, goes, I'm all in. You have to be all in.
Starting point is 00:49:52 I do well under these circumstances. How do you respond? Yeah. So for, we've never seen Khabib and everyone goes, Oh, his cardio is great. It is great. But when the fucking Irish nation is rocking that fucking arena and there's all this pressure, his heart rate's going to go up.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And he's going to be like, God, I fucking hate this guy. Khabib's never fought a guy who he hates. He hates Conor. Yep. Is he going to be overzealous and open himself up? Yep. There has to be something there. Like Aldo.
Starting point is 00:50:18 We don't know. Exactly like Aldo. Aldo was an assassin until that fight. Completely. One of the best of all time. Yeah. Still is. But that fight exposed how good Conor's psychological game is. Because months and months of being on tour with Conor, those press conferences, Conor
Starting point is 00:50:34 stealing his belt and screaming at him and getting in his face and then starches him with one punch. Oh. Amazing. But what else is interesting is, remember, Conor's an amazing counter-puncher. Well, to be an amazing counter-puncher, you need a guy to punch at you. Khabib's not going to punch at him. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Unless it becomes an ego thing like you did with Al or Edson Barboza where you just walk him down, there's no respect. He might throw some punches. So it's going to be interesting for Conor to find those angles when a guy's not playing the game. Well, it's also Khabib has had a history of struggling to make weight that he cannot struggle to make weight for this fight he's got to be on point he came in that press conference at 174 they said this motherfucker started camp at 180 something like he's he's never been more serious for a fight which for people listening if you're
Starting point is 00:51:19 saying like well buddy fights at 155 he used to, yeah. Yeah, and then get down to 155. And it was not good. I mean, the Michael Johnson fight, he struggled. He had, like, some real shutdown issues. And then the Tony Ferguson fight, they pulled him out of the fight. He can't have any of that nonsense this weekend. Oh, no. I don't think we will.
Starting point is 00:51:37 This weekend's got to be on point. The nonsense, the only thing where, like, Jamie Toney's going to the fight, I would never go to this fight. I think there's— What? I would not go to this fight for think there's what i would not go this fight for this reason i'm a complete pussy i think something's gonna happen in the crowd between the russians and the irish i think that why do you think that just the animosity between the two they hate each other so bad if this fight happens for connor
Starting point is 00:51:57 you're gonna have upset russians if it happens for khabib you have upset fucking irish i think it's it's gotten bigger than just a UFC fight. Really? I do, man. It's so hostile. You think you wouldn't go to this fight because the potential of the violence breaks out? Correct. I also don't like going to UFC fights.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I also don't like going to UFC fights. Why don't you like it? Because you used to fight? It's just stressful for me. I just, yeah, just super stressful. Do you feel like you're going to fight again when you're there? Yeah, I get the nerves. I'm just like, just super stressful. Do you feel like you're going to fight again when you're there? Yeah, I get the nerves. I'm just like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I go complete opposite of that now. I try to get more relaxed, you know, when I'm doing stand-ups. I don't want to be in that scared mode anymore. Yeah, that's interesting. My heart rate, I'm just sweating the whole time. I'm just like around, like sweating. I look like shit. Pull up that card.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Let me see the rest of the card. Dude, if you're Tony Ferguson, it's like, oh, yeah, and Tony's fighting. Right. I know. And he's fighting Pettis. It's not an easy fight for a comeback fight for Tony. I mean, I'm just amazed that he's able to fight again so quickly after knee surgery. You know what's interesting to me is I asked Josh Thompson, who knows Khabib, and obviously
Starting point is 00:53:01 you can talk to DC about it, but I go, dude, Tony's back. Like, if Khabib were to win, he'd fight Tony, right? And he goes, no interest. That fight does nothing to him mentally. He just doesn't care about it. I'm like, Khabib just doesn't care. Yeah. He's like, not with Tony.
Starting point is 00:53:14 So he really just wants to fight Connor and then get out. Get out. Or fight GSP. From, from this, from Josh Thompson's mouth, from Khabib, he wants to beat the UFC's poster boy, Dana's poster boy, and walk the fuck out. Unless they give him a super fight. Who the fuck has ever been 26-0 as a champion?
Starting point is 00:53:33 I think that's the only one. Yeah, but 26-0 for sure. He's fucking fighting Daggy Stannis. Who else has been an undefeated champion? Undefeated champion? John Jones. Connor was undefeated. But John Jones, did he fight Matt Hamill before he won the title?
Starting point is 00:53:46 He fought Matt Hamill on the Ultimate Fighter. Roy Nelson, Brendan Chobb. No, no, no. It wasn't the Ultimate Fighter. Yeah, it was the Ultimate Fighter finale. Because I fought Roy Nelson. John Jones fought Matt Hamill. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Not on the Ultimate Fighter. No, you know when they do the finale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's a bullshit loss, though. Oh, my God. You got a loss from whooping a dude's ass so bad He smashed it
Starting point is 00:54:06 As far as undefeated champions Who? I don't think there's one Hennon Burrell Oh he won but he lost his first fight Hennon Burrell lost his first I don't know he was like He had like 30 wins in a row or some shit
Starting point is 00:54:24 But had a weird loss back in Brazil. Yeah, he lost his first MMA fight, rather. Ronda. Yeah, Ronda. Ronda was undefeated. Undefeated, yeah. Yeah, Ronda's only two losses were the two title fights between Holly and Amanda. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:54:38 What do you got there, Jamie? What are you pulling up? List of undefeated MMA champions. Ben Askren hanging around. Ben Askren's for sure one of them. Ben Askren to me, I've had him on the podcast, I've said this a hundred times. I love the guy. He's my, oh, Brian Ortega.
Starting point is 00:54:54 But Brian Ortega isn't really a champion. Well, these aren't champions, are they? These just undefeated MMA fighters. Yeah. Sorry, yeah, yeah. These aren't champions. Ben's the one guy who I'd love to see come out of retirement and fight Khabib. He's the one guy that's my biggest disappointment, that that guy never fought in the UFC. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:55:11 It's a fucking shame. But the thing is, Khabib wouldn't fight. Nobody knows who he is outside of the hardcore guys like you and myself. Why would you fight and maybe lose? Maybe get out-wrestled. Here's the only, if you're going to say something about Khabib, he's 27-0. He really, when you look at the body of work from Conor compared to Khabib, it's not even close. The wins that Conor has are remarkable.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yes. You look at the Max Holloway, Chad Mendes, Jose Aldo. What he did to Eddie Alvarez. I mean, ridiculous. That was ridiculous. Ridiculous. Yeah. Then Nate Diaz win, Nate Diaz loss.
Starting point is 00:55:42 You just look at the caliber of opponents that he's faced from a very young age. It's a nightmare. They look at Khabib. He's 27-0. His biggest win is probably Barboza. Dos Anjos when he was a little weathered. But, you know. But Barboza is a perfect stylistic matchup for him.
Starting point is 00:56:00 So, we don't know with Khabib. We know he's damn good, but how good? He's had one weird moment in his entire career that's again michael johnson when michael johnson cracked him wobbled him for a second and then he took him down and smashed him the gleason uh t-bowl t-bowl fight got a little dicey too did it yeah boy i don't remember that fight at all um but but with with michael johnson it's funny to me because michael johnson landed that big uh overhand and people go oh khabib has a weak chin i'm like well well he's never been dropped
Starting point is 00:56:31 he's never been yeah i mean he's never been michael johnson starched dustin poirier with one punch don't forget about that michael johnson can fucking punch he's explosive as shit yeah i mean he caught khabib and khabib got rocked for a second, and then weathered the storm, took him down, smashed him. It was a total dominant performance. Yeah, if you look at his performance, like, you look at his, rather, his resume, Pat Healy
Starting point is 00:56:55 was a tough fighter. Tough vet. That showed. Abel Trujillo, he smashed Abel Trujillo. Remember, Abel, he took down more times than anyone inside that 21-town times, I think. And he was a college wrestler. And a strong guy, too. Abel's strong as shit.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And that's Gleason Tebow. When is that? 2012? That's that juicy Tebow. Yeah, the real big fight was the Barbosa fight. And then Al Iaquinta was, I mean, as his last minute gets. And he still went five whole rounds with Iaquinta, which was interesting for a lot of people. Like, I talked to Eddie Alvarez after that fight, and he was, like, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I love Eddie. Very interesting. Yeah. I was like, you saw a lot of things in that fight, huh? And he was like, yeah. He's like, you know, once the fight got into the later rounds and he's still standing up with guys, he'll go, oh, all right. It's so interesting to me because when you talk to anyone from AK, obviously they're super pro Khabib, but they're like, dude, this isn't even a fight. Like, this is one of Khabib's easier fights.
Starting point is 00:57:58 He's definitely had way tougher matchups. I'm like, you're crazy, man. They're like, you should see Khabib go against Ed Ruth, who's an All-American Penn State wrestler. Like, he fucks him up. He takes him down. I'm like, what should see Khabib go against Ed Ruth, who's an All-American Penn State wrestler. He fucks him up. He takes him down. Like, what? But that's wrestling. That's that wrestling, that dance, that rhythm.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Conor's not on that rhythm. You're talking about a different animal. You're talking about a guy who is one of the best fencers in the game, meaning can jump in with one shot and put you out. And he can do it moving back. He can do it moving forward. He can time you, and he'll be very common there. You will get the very best Conor McGregor. He's also no slouch on the ground.
Starting point is 00:58:40 People think he's just going to get taken down and get crucifixed right away. You're out your goddamn mind. The guy trains with Dylan Danis. He's brought in these Dagestani wrestlers. He's training with the lead of the lead. You know what Khabib's going to do. It's way easier to train for Khabib than it is Conor. The dark horse fight on the card is Derek Lewis and Volkov.
Starting point is 00:58:58 That's a great fight. Alexander Volkov might be the best heavyweight on the planet. What's he won his last six fight winning streak? He's a guy who's flying under the radar. He's giant too. Knocked out. His last fight, he knocked out Verdum. People forget. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Isn't he like 6'8 or some shit? 6'8. Yeah. 6'8. Giant, tall, long dude who did real well in Bellator. World champion in Bellator. And he has massive experience. And you see him in that fight with Verdum.
Starting point is 00:59:23 He fucked Verdum up. I know, man. He's a problem interesting verdum just released a statement saying that usada asked him to snitch i know what's going on with the snitching stuff i don't know they offered him uh a lean more lenient sentence if he was willing to snitch and he goes fuck you i love verdum and john and then i guess john was like cool i don't know i don't either but John was like, cool. I don't know if John. I don't either. But that's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I don't either. I didn't hear John snitched. Did you hear John snitched? That's what the statement says. But John's manager says that he didn't. What statement from who? The statement from his manager. He just gave him a skeptical hippo face.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Dude. But no, I'm not saying John did. Let's be very clear. All I'm saying is he came out that statement., and then Malky goes, he didn't snitch. And then – Everybody's like, wait, what? Nowitzki was like, no, you said you were going to give us some info to help us out down the road with other people. So, you know, I don't –
Starting point is 01:00:19 What? Yeah, USADA had to release an official statement and went, hold on. Wait a minute. Because Malky came out and was like, no, we never agreed to say we're going to snitch. And then USADA's like, well, no, remember? Remember the contract you signed? Here's this section of the contract. They said they would help them out in the future with other people.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I mean, but bring it up, Jamie. John Jones, world champion, walking around wearing a wire. Hey, guys. My creatine just ain't working. God, anyone else just exhausted today? You guys are just so ripped. You got anything? What's your secret?
Starting point is 01:00:51 You got anything, bro? Why are you in a full hoodie and sweatsuit in the sauna? I don't, you know, I'm going to go out on a limb here. I don't think that John cheated. You don't think he cheated? No. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:04 It's very murky waters. I might be wrong. I don't think he cheated? No. I don't know. I don't know. It's very murky waters. I might be wrong. I don't think he cheated. I think he took something that was tainted. I think that's why they're only giving him a year off.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And I think, look, I had said it on the podcast before. You don't have any skeptical hippo eyes about how it's shortened sentence, it's ready to go
Starting point is 01:01:18 right around New York, right around the CSPN deal? This is the explanation for it right here. Malky says, there was none, but I keep saying that and everybody keeps running with it. Substantial assistance doesn't necessarily
Starting point is 01:01:30 mean it has to be on somebody else. It could have been on himself. What? So go up to the part that USADA said. That's what USADA released, that statement. USADA said there are two avenues, blah, blah, blah, antidoping policy allow for reduction of sanctions. One individual can get a sanction reduction if he or she provides information that results in USADA
Starting point is 01:01:48 or another anti-doping agency bringing forward an anti-doping policy violation against other athletes or support personnel. And or two, a reduction can be given if the information results in a criminal or disciplinary body bringing forward a criminal offense against individuals. Importantly, if the athlete or support personnel fails to continue to cooperate and provide credible substantial assistance, USADA will reinstate the original sanction. That's snitching.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Where I come from, but I don't know. Now, I don't think John snitched on anyone to get a shorter sentence. We'll find out if Jackson guys are popping left and right all of a sudden, but I don't think John did that. I think that's just in there maybe. Maybe. Or if, I don't know. We do not know, and I like to give John Jones the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 01:02:39 And I will say this. If I'm a UFC fighter, I am hiring Malkke to be my goddamn manager because what he's done with john what he did with um freaking all his guys what he did with uh your boy yo romero he goes to bat for them no one else is fucking with the golden snitch like malke does yeah and everyone else kind of just goes ah fuck we got busted man not malke man that dude's going to the end of the earth to fight for your freedom. Yeah. I don't know him that well. I don't know him as a person, you know, managers are managers.
Starting point is 01:03:09 But I'm saying if I'm the UFC, because they can't negotiate your sponsorship, it's Reebok. So what can they really do? Your contract, and now you've got to deal with USADA, who's a huge deal. Malky is this fucking dog right now that you want in your back pocket. And it's interesting that USADA has just released a statement that they're changing their policy. So say if you piss hot, they don't... And what's really interesting is Sean O'Malley
Starting point is 01:03:32 right afterwards said, yo, I pissed hot. He said they don't want to announce that people pissed hot. He goes, I pissed hot. He goes, let me tell you something. They're going to check my supplements and we think we've got it nailed. We think we know what it is. But in the meantime, this is why I was removed from the fight this weekend.
Starting point is 01:03:49 So they're not going to announce it. They're just going to pull you from the card. They're just going to pull you from the card. That ain't right. And they don't announce it. That ain't right. And then they go through the entire steps, and then if you're exonerated, you were never accused in the first place.
Starting point is 01:04:02 See, the problem is, with Sean O'Malley, whoever you are, Travis Brown, whoever, name any fighter you want. If you've ever been if it's even been hinted, if you've ever had an issue and you get that label, nothing like people just go, he's on steroids. They don't do a big announcement going, sorry, we didn't find anything. My bad. We saw. Hey, Josh Burnett. Sorry. Been out for 22 months my bad right what the fuck man right give me some sort of compensation that's true also you so it took you how long to figure this out i can't work during that time period right and because of you i can't work and you made a mistake
Starting point is 01:04:41 and you made the mistake how are we going to make this right? Oh, I bet. You can go fight now. Yeah. That's insane. Especially for Josh. He's like 37. He's not young. Or how about for- I think he's actually older than 37. Josh might be 40.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah, he's long in the tooth. He's been doing it for a hot minute. Yeah, I mean, he was- But think if you're Jon Jones, though, dude. Right. Let's say you're right and he didn't do anything. Nothing on purpose. And it was some bullshit supplement.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And he's been dragged through the mud, rightfully so, after hitting a woman pregnant and all that. But with this— That's a different thing, though. That's a different thing. With this, you're like, what the fuck, man? Right. I could have fought Brock Lesnar. I could have been living DC's life.
Starting point is 01:05:17 But because of this, I've been out. My name's been tarnished forever. Yeah, but there was something in his urine. There was a substance, and that substance is a performance-enhancing substance. The real question is, did it come like, there's a lot of people that got it from supplements. I mean, this is happening all throughout sports,
Starting point is 01:05:36 but then there's people that say, no, they're saying that it happened from supplements, but really that's just an excuse for them getting popped. That's what most people think the majority side with that the problem in John situation is that he tested negative and then he tested positive and he tested negative in a very short period of time which means the amount that was in his system is a trace amount which is not anything you could take that would impart performance enhancing benefit no they said it like
Starting point is 01:06:04 having a drop of steroids and a huge vat of water. Right. Like that's, it's not going to benefit him. It's not going to benefit him. Now some people, and not me, man, I'm with you. Maybe he did take something that he wasn't supposed to, but I don't think it helped his performance. But some people say, well, that he was microdosing.
Starting point is 01:06:20 So he didn't get it out of his system in time. That's why it's such a small trace amount. But at the time, if they would have tested him, it would have been a higher potency. Maybe. I don't think you can microdose this shit, though. I have no idea, Joe. I don't know. But listen, they said he didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Here's the shitty thing, though. Now DC's upset because they're like, KDC, we're going to strip you of one of your belts, and John's going to fight for it. But they haven't worked that out yet. Maybe that's why the Gustafson-John Jones situation still hasn't been resolved yet. Ding, ding. We're going to find out this weekend. Let me see the card.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Yeah, I think this weekend they'll have to announce. They have to announce something. It's a fucking month away, man. I mean, what else do you do? This is a great card. Obviously, the main event's ridiculous. But that Massacre of Garden card's a better fight. Better overall fight.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Yeah. No, I think it is too. This is, look, the big fights on this card are Nurmagomedov and Ferguson versus Pettis. Nurmagomedov versus Conor is a fight for the ages. I mean, that's absolutely one of the biggest fights in the history of the sport. That's a giant fucking fight. I mean, undefeated champion who just smashes and mauls people against one of the most enigmatic, charismatic fucking superstars of sports ever known. And he's coming off of a long two year absence from MMA where he fought the biggest boxer on the planet Earth, arguably the best boxer ever, and went 10 rounds with him.
Starting point is 01:07:45 And then he's going from that to fighting Nurmagomedov again for the title. This is a giant fight. Huge fight. Biggest fight in UFC history. For sure. Conor has changed the sport. I mean, he really has. Oh, forever.
Starting point is 01:08:00 He's a different thing. He's different than all the rest of the fighters. He's just different. He's different than all all the rest of the fighters he's just different he's so much more of a superstar yeah he's more literally like he's more of a he's the biggest celebrity yeah with the best talents they've ever had and not doing other things too he's like fuck your movies dude he's he's had some crazy i know firsthand he's had some crazy offers i'm like he didn't take that and i'm like no he didn't want to do it he says he wants to be loyal to the game he's like there's plenty of time for that bullshit when i'm done fighting brilliant yeah i mean that's the way to do it i mean i think that is
Starting point is 01:08:31 one of the things that did ronda in is that she was doing everything i mean they had her doing movies they had her doing tv shows that did her in but also the skill set with connor it's a little different he has a skill set yes yes well it, it's a more comprehensive camp, too. I mean, there was Achilles' heel with Ronda was the camp. I mean, look, if you're fighting someone like Amanda Nunes, you better be fully prepared. It's just different, too, you know, with the female division. It's still growing. So, you know, what she was in her time period was one of the best of all time
Starting point is 01:09:05 was the pioneer of the sport but you know they're so so much in their infancy of starting with mixed martial arts they're adapting fast so ronda didn't get better when everyone else got a lot better so i thought they caught up to her she didn't have the skill sets and i think there was i think you're right i think her her game didn't advance. But I think there was also, I mean, just, look, she was so fucking good compared to them in the beginning. She was just so good. And then she was doing everything. She was doing TV shows, movies. Just the wrong people around her.
Starting point is 01:09:37 From her management to her agent, Brad. Like, the whole thing was a nightmare. The whole thing's a nightmare. So she's doing all that stuff. It worked out, though. All these distractions. It worked out financially up was a nightmare. The whole thing's a nightmare. So she's doing all that stuff. It worked out, though. All these distractions. It worked out financially up to a point. Well, when I say it works out.
Starting point is 01:09:50 We're big ones. Big ones. I mean, it worked out in the sense where she's doing something now. She looks happy. She's in the WWE. She's a huge star over there. She's actually really good at it. She's killing it over there.
Starting point is 01:10:00 If you're in the WWE, apparently she's unnatural at it. So she's the champ over there not getting hit in the face so right guess that brain damage yeah well well you can still get brain damage yeah so i guess it kind of worked out yeah but i mean when you when you're talking about khabib and connor you're talking about the two most skillful lightweights of all time yeah one guy is a the best grappler we've ever seen in the ufc and khabib the other is the best striker we've ever seen in the ufc oneib. The other is the best striker we've ever seen in the UFC. One of them, for sure. I think he's the best as far as timing, as far as putting it all together, his movement.
Starting point is 01:10:31 We've never seen anything like it. I think what he does is completely different than what Wonderboy does. We've seen a Wonderboy. I can go watch. I'm not taking any credit away from Wonderboy. I'm saying from Wonderboy coming over with his kickboxing background into UFC, we've seen some of that. Wonderboy's just the best at it. See, the thing is you've never seen Conor fight a guy like Wonderboy, whereas you've seen Wonderboy fight Darren Till.
Starting point is 01:10:52 You've seen Wonderboy fight someone who's that kind of a striker. You've never seen Conor fight someone who is as dangerous standing up as he is. Jose Aldo. Yeah, but it was a different weight class, really. Not at the time. He was so much bigger. That's what he fought, though, Joe. He's so much bigger than Aldo. No, you're right. Jose Aldo. Yeah, but it was a different weight class, really. Not at the time, that's what he fought though, Joe. It's easy to say that. But at the time, remember, Jose Aldo was a fucking assassin.
Starting point is 01:11:12 What he did to Jose, for whatever reason, puts a shade over Jose. Jose was so good, man. He was a killer. Striking was amazing. Everyone was hanging off his Brazilian nuts. And they get starched in 13 seconds we're like he's all right but then the question is like did connor catch him when he had already
Starting point is 01:11:29 taken in a lot of damage like after the second chad mendes fight people started to question because the second fight you know that was a war great fight my favorite fights of all time yeah no it's a good point but then and then he fights a young Max Holloway. You know, they're both young. That's not an easy fight. Beats Max Holloway and has a torn fucking ACL or MCL in his knee. Does that. He fights Dustin Poirier. Like, you look at the guy, like, Max Holloway, champion.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Dustin Poirier. He's fighting fucking Nate Diaz now. He could easily be the 155 champion. Eddie Alvarez, champion. Chad Mendes, champion. What do you know about, but you have a Chad Mendes super last minute notice. No cardio. Didn't have a camp at all. I'm just saying, a win's a win, brother. Chad Mendes, champion. What do you know about... Chad Mendes, super last minute notice. No cardio. Didn't have a camp at all. I'm just saying, a win's a win, brother.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Yeah, it's true. But there's a caveat next to that. For sure, but still. What are you hearing about Max Holloway? They're fighting. It just got announced. Is he okay again? What happened? Bad weight cut, from what I hear. Really? Bad weight cut?
Starting point is 01:12:24 So how the fuck is he going to make that weight again? Probably go, what did we do last camp and redo everything? He's so big, dude. He's so big. Ortega's big too, though, man. He figures it out. Yeah, but he hasn't been doing it as long. I think the thing about the weight cutting is,
Starting point is 01:12:41 and this is one of the things that I've been learning, talking to nutritionists and guys who diet and guys who get ready for bodybuilding competitions. Like talking to Lane Norton last week, he's a scientist, like a legit PhD as well as a guy who's competed in bodybuilding. He's like, your body does not want to do that. And your body tries to protect you from doing it. And the more times you do it, the more and more difficult it is for you to do. Weight cutting is the number one primary problem with MMA. A hundred percent. You got to listen to Conor McGregor's interview that did with Mac life. He talked about weight cutting. What did he say? It's just, I missed that part,
Starting point is 01:13:17 but he talks about it, how, you know, the weight cutting was an issue and how dangerous it is. It's not good. It's fucking terrible. He touches on that. Yeah. Dustin Po poirier talked about that too and he said that he thinks everybody should go up one weight class but then you know what is happening with this 165 pound title because they were going to have nate diaz fight dustin both those guys came out and said they're going to be fighting for the title they came up with that game plan which i love they tried forcing the ufc's hand did they yeah it was their idea which is brilliant that. Did you talk to them? Come on. I mean, that's their plan. And then the UFC's like, no, they're not.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Like, Dana goes, I don't know why they keep saying this stuff. Nate, they signed a contract. They're fine at 55. 65. No, they're not fine at 65. Really? No, they're not fine at 65. They made that up.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Nate Diaz and Dustin Poirier thought it'd be great to fight at 65 for a title. Really? That's not the UFC's idea. So. They made that up. Nate Diaz and Dustin Poirier thought it'd be great to fight at 65 for a title. Really? That's not the UFC's idea. The UFC had to come out. So they just made that up? So the UFC had to repost, like, no, it's 55. So it's like Dustin and Nate, hey, what's up? What's up, dude?
Starting point is 01:14:14 Made a bet for a title. Yo, yo, yo, let's do this, man. Let's say we're going to fight at 65. All right, fuck it. You know I'm going to fuck you up. I'm going to fuck you up. Yeah. I thought it was brilliant.
Starting point is 01:14:23 And they tried forcing the UFC's hand, and then Dana had to come out. I'm like, no. So people, and then when they told him it's not happening, you know, there's no belt. There's no 65-pound belt. Nate was like, oh, fucking, I'm out. What is this? This is Nate saying, I'm happy to announce I'm bringing a new weight division. What is that 165-pound belt super fighter division?
Starting point is 01:14:43 What does that mean? It's just them, just them trolling the UFC Which is hilarious And then Dustin goes It's been a long journey but here we are New York City first ever 165 pound title UFC 165 I like how he hashtagged Thug Jitsu
Starting point is 01:15:00 Shout out to Eve Edwards It's hilarious but then you look at it And Dana White. There's absolutely no truth to it. No. It just doesn't make any sense. But here's the thing. If there was truth to it, maybe you could sell that title better, that card better,
Starting point is 01:15:18 if that's the title file. That's exactly what you should do. They fucking teed it up for you. What are you waiting for? But have that as well as the main event. If you get another main event. Why not go, all right, fuck my ego.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Let's do it. Nate, Dustin, 165, world title, new division. Everyone's all crunk for it. If Jon Jones or whoever we're trying to get else, it works, great. That's going to hype this thing even more. But a month out, do that. I would love, Dustin Poirier and Nate Diaz can headline this fucking Mass Square Garden card.
Starting point is 01:15:49 It's insane not to announce someone. But I think they want something bigger. I think they want Jon Jones. But at 165 title, why not just the appetizer? That's a deep, heavy appetizer to sell tickets. Here's the craziest of crazy questions. Please. Here's the craziest of crazy questions. Please. Here's the craziest of crazy questions.
Starting point is 01:16:09 DC is supposed to be fighting Brock motherfucking Lesnar for the heavyweight title. Next year. But that's next year. Jon Jones versus DC for the heavyweight title in Madison Square Garden. It's not happening, but... Why not? Because DC said he can't. They want him to fight...
Starting point is 01:16:30 Can't what? Why can't he? Because he wants to fight at light heavyweight. Why? John and I think Dana want to fight at heavyweight, but he wants to do it at light heavyweight. He doesn't want to do it at heavyweight. He doesn't want to fight John at heavyweight.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Light heavyweight. That's what he's been saying. Listen, somebody needs to pull him aside, give him a fat bucket of Popeye's fried chicken because that's his favorite. By fat buck, you mean fat bucket of cash. That's what I was going to say next. Okay. I was going to say a briefcase slide up.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Back up the brink trucks. Leather briefcases that has those click, click things on it. You lift it up. If I'm DC, I'm not doing that. I'm going, hold up. I'm going to fight Brock'm not doing that. I'm going, hold up. I'm going to fight Brock in January, February. I'm going to get paid. I'm going to beat the shit out of Brock.
Starting point is 01:17:10 That's a big payday for me. That's a big payday. And then have John fight Kane. Have John fight Stipe at heavyweight. Let's see how he looks. If he looks human, I'll fight that fool. But if he looks like Uber Ream at heavyweight, I'll see you on the other side. And I'm fucking retiring.
Starting point is 01:17:25 That is a fight, right? Stipe versus John Jones at heavyweight, I'll see you on the other side. And I'm fucking retiring. That is a fight, right? Stipe versus Jon Jones at heavyweight in Madison Square Garden. That would be a giant fight. Huge fight. That's a giant headliner. That's a headliner. Fuck. What?
Starting point is 01:17:35 That gets my dick hard now. Here's one for you, though. Why not? See, Conor versus Khabib, the same biggest fight of all time UFC history. Right. Pay-per-views, I don't think so. But let's say DC were to beat Brock, John beat Stipe. John DC, the trilogy at heavyweight for the world title, you don't think that's bigger than this fight this weekend?
Starting point is 01:17:58 To me, it's bigger. No, it's not bigger because Conor McGregor's a bigger... What is this? We might see Daniel Cormier, John Jones trilogy at heavyweight. Aha. See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying? They're trying to force my boy DC into some shit he doesn't want to do, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Stay strong, DC. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Take the fight. No. Take the fight. No, fight Brock. Listen, John's been off a long time. Do you remember when he came back against Ovin St. Preux? Wasn't the best fight. That the fight. No, fight Brock. Listen, John's been off a long time.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Do you remember when he came back against Ovin St. Preux? Wasn't the best fight. That's true. This might be the time. What a great story for DC if he were to beat John and then ride off in the sunset. Imagine that. And then rides off in the sunset. Not to play devil's advocate. What if he gets head kicked again at heavyweight?
Starting point is 01:18:44 Loses both belts. And everyone's like, well, there you go. Well, look. John is, if not the best ever, he's one of the best ever. I think he's the best ever. With Mighty Mouse having lost, it's a real good argument. I think in terms of the overall ability to get things done, you've got to look at what he's done. He's never lost.
Starting point is 01:19:03 He only lost to Matt Hamill, and that was a bullshit loss. Look at the guys he's fought, too. Fought murderers. And the way he what he's done. He's never lost. He only lost to Matt Hamill and that was a bullshit loss. Look at the guys he's fought too. Fought murders. And the way he beat them too. Killers. Remember when he choked Leota out and just dropped him? Vicious. Just fell in a clump. And then what he did to fucking Vitor Belfort he submitted Vitor was like you're a black belt? Very cool.
Starting point is 01:19:20 After he got his arm broken, Conor McGregor not keen on facing GSP next but interested in Anderson Silva. Get that shit out of my, Conor McGregor not keen on facing GSP next, but interested in Anderson Silva. Get that shit out of my face, Conor. What? Why would he not be interested in facing GSP, but he's interested in facing Anderson? Anderson's a 185-pounder.
Starting point is 01:19:35 We'll see what happens next, but I don't think GSP is next. He doesn't have anything for me personally. I'm not going to shut the door on that down the line. You know what would be another great one? Anderson Silva. I think he thinks Anderson is slowed way down. George is not slowed down yet. George at 55 versus Conor is an amazing fight.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Well, at 70, it's an amazing fight, too. They're not fighting at 70. No? Nope. No way? Nope. Not happening. What makes you say that?
Starting point is 01:20:07 What makes you say that? What makes you say that? You've seen George, right? He looks pretty svelte. Well, I saw one picture of him when he was in the sauna when people say he's making a test cut to 55. Ask your boy for us. I'm not going to ask George. Ask George. Just call him up right now.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Call him up. You think he's going to give us a real answer on there? I've never called anybody. Me neither. Sometimes Brian does this. It's a nightmare. It's probably rude, right? Yeah, they're like, what?
Starting point is 01:20:32 You're on air. Hey, it's Rogan and Chubb. Is there any way you're going to fight? And they're like, dude, come on. See, the problem with that is he's leaning in, and that image of him at 170 is in the middle of a fight, so he's all pumped up with muscle. His muscles are inflated.
Starting point is 01:20:48 You know, he might actually be trying to make 55. He does look very slim there. This is what I've heard through the grapevine. GSP wants to fight, and the fight he wants is at 55, but it's only if Conor wins. Really? He doesn't think beating Khabib would be like a legacy fight for him.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Well, I'll tell you what, in terms of pay-per-view, that would be a giant fight. Conor GSP? Yes. Especially after GSP beat Bisping, got 800,000 pay-per-view buys after two, how many years out of the game? Four? Four. Four years out of the game?
Starting point is 01:21:23 Four-year layoff. Four-year layoff, comes back. And I'll tell you what, man, when he did my podcast, he's super lucid. He's there 100%. Oh, yeah. All that rest did him good. Brilliant guy. That rest did him good. Smart, smart guy.
Starting point is 01:21:36 That's a fight. That would be a giant fight. That's a giant fight. And he'd probably be vulnerable at 55. Yeah. It's a good fight for Conor. Good fight for George, too. Would he be faster? I mean, would he necessarily be vulnerable at 55. Yeah. It's a good fight for Conor. Good fight for George, too. Do you think he would be faster?
Starting point is 01:21:46 I mean, would he necessarily be faster at 55? I don't think so. I think he'd be so diminished. Yeah. I think he'd be solid. Obviously, his technique's still there, but I think at 70, that's George all day. 85, not so much. That boy looked thick.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Yeah, but he said he had a real hard time keeping that weight on. It fucked up his intestines. Yeah, whatever it was. It fucked up his digestive system. Boy, but he said he had a real hard time keeping that weight on. It fucked up his intestines. Yeah, whatever it was. It fucked up his digestive system. Boy, it was thick. He said he was eating all day, trying to keep the mass on. Yeah. That was a rough one. Yeah, he's got some sort of a stomach issue now.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Colitis? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And he said he got it from just eating like a fucking pig while he was training. Like, he was always, like, almost throwing up. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah, not good.
Starting point is 01:22:29 What else is on this card this weekend? Other than that, man. What do we got? Michelle Watterson, Felice Herrig, that's a good fight. That's a fun fight. You got Little Pettis fighting Juicy A Formiga.
Starting point is 01:22:42 Formiga. In the boxing world, you got Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury fighting, man. December. I'm doing the press conference Wednesday. I know. That's an interesting fight. It's a good fight, man. Did you hear what Teddy Atlas said about Deontay Wilder?
Starting point is 01:22:56 Just how hard he can hit? He called him Thor. That's hilarious. He's got that hammer. He's like Thor. How great's Teddy Atlas? He's great. That was a fun interview.
Starting point is 01:23:04 I didn't get to the very end but he mentioned something of it where he was saying how he thinks it's an issue and I never really
Starting point is 01:23:11 thought about it until he brought it up I've never thought about it how when boxing became a little corrupt and got a little weird for him is when the fighters
Starting point is 01:23:18 started to have their own promotions in with the boxing world right like the promoters and the fighters working together and now we're starting to see this now with the UFC. We're going down the same road with McGregor promotions in the UFC.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Now they're in cahoots, right? But he's also talking about how the promoters will take out the judges to dinner. And it's like that's a total conflict of interest. Even if you're not paying them, they're eating at the nicest places, drinking the nicest wine. That's so sketchy, man. Yeah. So sketchy.
Starting point is 01:23:48 It's legal in some sort of strange loophole-y way. It's very strange. Yeah. What else is coming up down the future? What else is going on? Like, what's another big fight? The December card, you got Cyborg Nunez happening. Now, the December card in Toronto?
Starting point is 01:24:05 No, December card in Toronto is Brian Or Nunez happening. Now the December card in Toronto? No, December card in Toronto is Brian Ortega Holloway. Right. And so there's another December card? The New Year's card. You know when they do it right before New Year's? Oh, so there's two pay-per-views? Pretty sure. Because the place that Valentina Shevchenko versus Cesar
Starting point is 01:24:19 Eubanks, what? For the vacant flyweight title, headlined UFC 230. But I thought... Joanna. Yeah. Hey. Is this just coming out today? I was about to show you a tweet that said that they were talking about moving it up and
Starting point is 01:24:35 it was in flux and then when I went to look for it... Oh wait, that's going to headline Mass Square Garden? What? I've lost all energy in my body. What? Oh yeah yeah because that gets my dick harder than dustin poor avers nate diaz for 165 pound title no no offense but i don't even know who sejara eubanks is and i'm the commentator for the ufc i've never heard of her and i'm not being a dick either i'm just saying as far as headline Mass Square Garden, you got
Starting point is 01:25:05 some nerve whoever put this together. Let's see a video on this young lady. I'm sure she's an absolute monster. I'm sure she is. Congrats. She looks scary. How many fights does she have? She's won in the UFC. She's one fight.
Starting point is 01:25:22 One fight in the UFC. She's four and two. Okay. And what happened with Joanna? She's one fight in the UFC. She's four and two. Four and two. Okay. And what happened with Joanna? She must have got injured or some shit. Yeah, I don't know. The previous tweet was this.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Well, this is Brett Okamoto. He's a reliable source. Remember, ESPN's in cahoots with the UFC now. Supposed to face Joanna, but that may change too if the switch happens. Okay, per sources, they've discussed moving Valentina Shevchenko. Is this the previous tweet? Yeah, this was the previous one. And then he made another one saying that it's locked in. Correct.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Wow. Okay, yeah. The fucking Britney Spears. Who's the dude? What's that guy's name? Christopher Castano. Chris underscore Castano. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:26:10 He put that Britney Spears. What? GIF. That is fucking hilarious. These poor girls. It sucks for them. But the magnitude of Math Square Garden, you're thinking it's going to be. I was thinking Jones fucking Cain Velasquez.
Starting point is 01:26:23 I'm thinking Stipe Jones, DC, something that would just blow my hair back. They're like, hold up. Valentina against the girls, 4-2 with one fight in the UFC for the flyweight title. Nico Montana, they stripped her because she didn't make weight for one fight. What? Those are your friends, Joe. Hey. Just kidding.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Listen, man, I don't want to be a promoter Fuck that You just keep doing your thing F-f-f-f-f-f-f-fuck that job Fuck You'll be working that one, though I was going to say We could have done a companion
Starting point is 01:26:54 Just freaking Yeah Went ham I know We could have Damn it When are we going to do a companion again? When is everyone together?
Starting point is 01:27:01 When are you not working? I don't know When am I not working? Well, I'm I'm chilling out for a while now that that show that I did in Toronto on Saturday night was my last big show for a long time. How long are you going to chill? Quite a while. Because you've got to get another hour.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Yeah, I'm at like 25 minutes, 24 minutes. You're still going to be doing sets? Yeah. It might be nice to take a little break, though. I'm taking this week off. Just the week off? Yeah, just relaxing and then going to the be doing sets? Yeah. It might be nice to take a little break, though. I'm taking this week off. Just the week off? Yeah, just relaxing and then going to the UFC this weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Hanging with the family. Yeah, I'm just looking forward to just – I did it. It's out. Now I'm going to chill. And then I need to – we need to wait until October is over so I can do some mushrooms. Need to get some new material. Oh, yeah, you're in sober. Sober October.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Sober October. Are you going to do sober October? I don't drink or smoke, really. I have nothing to be sober of. So just say you're doing it. I mean, yeah, I do it year-round, but sure. Want to get involved in the fitness challenge? Yeah, that's easy. Let's do that.
Starting point is 01:27:55 I got an extra one of these things. Really? Yeah. All right, let's do it. Okay. I just worked out with you guys. Look at that. You're in.
Starting point is 01:28:00 All right, I'm in. Easy, easy. What is it? What do I get to wear? This thing right here. Can I turn it into a headband? No, you put it around your waist. Oh, sick. Around your chest. And then I download the app? Yeah. All right, I'm in. I'll get you one of those. I ordered an extra one. Fuck yeah, thanks, dude. All right. I'm in, dude. Yeah. But it's not much for me, though, because I don't
Starting point is 01:28:20 really drink or smoke or anything. Like, Stanhope's the big one, yeah? He's got to go to a doctor. Stanhope is getting measured. He's getting his blood work done, and the doctor's going to go, you should be dead. I met him for the first time at the comedy store. Super nice guy. Oh, he's the best. I've heard about him forever.
Starting point is 01:28:36 He's a really nice guy to me. He's a sweetheart. I just think he's going to be mean to me for whatever reason. It's my own complex, but he's super nice to me. You think they're going to be mean to you? Yeah. Yeah, because a few of them have been. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Some have. Yeah. Fuck this guy. Well, the people, they think you're infringing on their turf, you know? I get it. It's stupid.
Starting point is 01:28:53 I 100% get it. Comedy is everybody's turf. If you can do it, you can do it. As long as you don't steal, it's everybody's turf. As long as the crowd's laughing, you don't steal.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Yeah. If the crowd's not laughing, yeah, I don't belong to be there. Yeah. Don't steal, and come up with your your own shit and be nice to people and everyone should let you in we're all freaks and misfits the idea that one type of freaking misfit is okay but another type isn't yeah you know i had to deal with that my especially early on were you self-conscious early on because you're a bigger dude and you have tattoos were you self-conscious of it yeah that's why to this day i always go on stage with long sleeve shirts people
Starting point is 01:29:29 say oh like the one of the things that people said about um strange times like why don't you wear fucking shirts that fit you because i don't feel good in shirts that fit me i mean i don't mind wearing a shirt that fits me to the movies or to a restaurant or something like that. But on stage you're self-conscious about it? I like loose things that don't show muscle. They don't show any. I don't want anybody looking at my body. Yeah, I hear you. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:53 You couldn't go on stage with a fucking tank top on. People are like, fuck this guy. Any of his skinny jeans on? You know, fuck this guy. Exactly. Fuck this guy. It's not funny, man. But Theo goes on stage with a tank top. I know. And it's all good.
Starting point is 01:30:05 I know. Brian can. Yeah, it's no problem. Don't tell Brian he can. Brian will get upset. Come on, guys. Guys think I'm ripped. No, come on.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Do a lot of body weight work. Yeah. You know what? I found a legit massage lady. Oh, my God. This lady tortured me the other day. Do I know her? No. oh my god this lady tortured me the other day do i know her no she's um she is uh a trigger point
Starting point is 01:30:29 specialist and she gets she's a strong lady and she gets that fucking elbow in your back she's a big girl oh yeah she's a big yeah she's big lady that's how you know it's she's fucking strong she breathed hard yeah she broke me thats me, but it's good for you. Dude, my whole back to this day is still sore. It was two days ago I got the massage
Starting point is 01:30:49 and the areas where she broke down are sore. Like she fucked me up. Like she beat my ass. I could use that. Was it an hour long though? She did 90 minutes.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Was she dripping wet with sweat? Sweating like a pig. It's like pros and cons, right? It's like you either get the big girl who sweats and takes up all the oxygen in the room or you get the soft Asian girl and it and takes up all the oxygen in the room,
Starting point is 01:31:07 or you get the soft Asian girl and it's not a good massage. No, I don't want that. I want to get hurt. Yeah, me too. Because she loosened up a lot of shit that was bothering the fuck out of me. I realized the importance of that, and I haven't been doing it. I'll tell you what, when I do yoga regularly, I don't need as much massage, but I think even then you need it. You need everything to be kinked, all the kinks to be worked out broken down and yeah I love massages man you
Starting point is 01:31:29 know the Russian Olympic team I was reading something about Russian athletes they would get massages every day on tons of steroids yeah sure it makes sense did you ever have that guy Brian Fogle on your podcast Brian Fogle he's the guy that directed Icarus? No, I didn't. Did you see Icarus? I saw Icarus. Ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:31:49 You should have him on. He's amazing. Here's my thing, Joe. When you had Teddy Atlas on, for him to come on in three hours, you have that Brian Fogle or whoever. When they do three hours on this, there's not much more I can cover. Sure, I'll throw in some dick jokes or something. I'm talking about dicks and fashion.
Starting point is 01:32:04 But once they go here, I don't want to... You shouldn't think like that. No, no. They're conversations. They're conversations, but you covered it for three hours. Yeah, but believe me, you're going to cover it in a different way. It's always how it is. You're going to have your own take on things, especially as a guy who's actually fought
Starting point is 01:32:20 professionally and actually played football. My only thing is, it's my own thing is like if i hear it for on your show for three hours i don't want to go over it on my show i'm like i know this guy it's not a mystery anymore i see what you're saying i'm saying i see what you're saying but i don't think i don't think that way you know like i when i heard jaco on tim ferris i didn't say oh i don't want to have that guy on because Tim Ferriss covered it thoroughly, which he did. Different. Yeah, different. I hear you, though.
Starting point is 01:32:49 I hear you. Yeah. Like with Justin Wren. He's like, dude, coming to town, doing Rogan. I'll do yours after. I'm like, if you're talking about kids and water in Africa for three hours on Rogan, you really don't need to do mine, bro. He's being in Rafael Lovato.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Yeah, I love that guy. He's in his world, too. But again, you guys got this yeah like i'm not you know we're contributing to his uh fight for the forgotten we're donating money and we're also a part of uh the cash app donates five dollars every time someone signs up for the cash app um you use the promo code joe rogan all one word and the cash app sends you five bucks and the cash app sends you five bucks, and the Cash App sends Justin Renz Fight for the Forgotten.
Starting point is 01:33:27 That's cool, man. Five bucks. Yeah, they've raised thousands of dollars just doing that. And building wells. They've built two wells already. They're in the process of building more. You guys are doing, are you guys going to do a benefit, a comedy benefit? I would do anything.
Starting point is 01:33:39 I'll help out however I can. I'll help out, but he doesn't need to come on my show to do it. If he's going to go in here for three hours, I'll do whatever you want. Well, it's the same like, make sure I don do whatever you want well it's same like make sure I don't forget his name it's same like I was on the plane the other day man and this um I don't mess up his name and be a dickhead and uh
Starting point is 01:33:54 oh Ray Borg have you seen Ray Borg and his son no his son was sick right his baby's having these surgeries and I saw someone post a shirt that Ray Borg uh go to Ray Borg's Instagram or Twitter. And he posts a shirt. He goes, all these proceeds from the shirt go to help me pay for my child's medical bill.
Starting point is 01:34:13 And so someone goes, Shab, look into this. And so I click on it. And I see, you know, I have a two and a half year old son. I see his son on the, like the freaking respirator. Broke my heart, man. So I DM'd him. And Ray, I'm sure a bunch of people hit you up, man. There it is. I DM Ray cause he was that we need help with the medical bills.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I will pay for your medical bills, Ray. I will cover it, man. So when I, when I say here, I get emotional cause I see his son. When I say I'll help you, Ray, I'm dead serious, man. I'm not one of these guys who just, I don't need the publicity. I don't need any of that. I sent you my, I DM'd you my number. I will cover the medical bills, man.
Starting point is 01:34:51 I got you, brother. I got you, man. Hit me up. It's not a game. It's no publicity. I will take care of you and your family. That's it. Whoa, look at you.
Starting point is 01:35:01 You got all emotional. Dude, when I see his kid on there, man, fucking. Look at you. I've never seen you broken up like this before. I know. This took me by surprise. Sorry, dude. I'm good now.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Do you know Ray? I don't know him at all. Never met him. Wow. Never met him. So how much money does he need to raise? I don't know, but I'm fucking rich. I'm doing a show in Utah.
Starting point is 01:35:24 I'll donate all the money I make from my six shows in Utah to his medical bills. Beautiful. That's beautiful, man. Wise guys, St. Louis, October, I think 10th through the 12th. I'm doing four, I think it's six shows. I'll take all that money you can have it, Ray. That's beautiful. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:37 That's a beautiful place too. Great place, man. Yeah. Love Utah. Does he not have medical insurance? I don't know. I don't think it covers it. And he's a broke fighter. Yeah. He's a Does he not have medical insurance? I don't know. I don't think it covers it. And he's a broke fighter.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Yeah. He's a broke fighter, man. And I just, dude, I'm so fortunate, like me finding stand-up and I get so much cool stuff in the works and this Bravo show. I'm like, dude, you just can't take, take, take. Yeah. You know, I give to my family and all that. I'm like, we have to figure something out here.
Starting point is 01:36:03 That's beautiful. So when I saw that, I'm like, what the fuck, man? That's awesome, man. I love that. I love that about you. Yeah. Look at you. I know. I didn't mean to talk about it. I guess, I don't know. We got brought up on that, but I reached out to him and then I think he thought like, Oh, I'm sure. No, I'm not going to donate like a hundred dollars or something, man. Right. Yeah. Well, maybe he just was overwhelmed. You know, that's what I'm thinking. That's why I'm sure he listened to the show. I know he listened to Fire on the Kid. I just thought of it now.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Well, imagine the amount of time that it must be taking up to not just train, but also to deal with his son and his son's medical issues and the family and the bills and all that stuff. Yeah. My son stubs his toe, my heart drops, man. Yeah, it's hard, man. Falls on the ground like, what the fuck? Isn't it crazy? Did you ever feel so vulnerable in your life? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:36:47 I'm terrified of the world now. Terrified. I'll be driving my car. I'm like, you got to slow down, man. Do you think of people different now that you have a kid? 100%. I'm way more like, I'm more scared of the world. I feel like I'm more loving now.
Starting point is 01:37:02 I also, if I have friends who are shitty dads, I barely hang out with them anymore. I hold resent against them. Cause I'm like that dude, that little dude needs you so bad, man. Yeah. Yeah. Now I feel the same way. Yeah. Um, you know, the thing is like, I, I feel sad for people who don't make the transition.
Starting point is 01:37:21 You know, there's a, there's a transition to being a father that some people resist where it becomes a primary focus of your life. It becomes a big, big, big deal. But if you make that transition, the love that comes out of that and the change that it brings about in you and the benefits for your child, they're so substantial. Oh, I mean, and it's so cliche. Oh, it's the best thing i've ever done straight up man i've had a cool fucking life it is by far the best thing i've ever done i want a squad i want because the love i get from that little dude i'm like three of you would be even cooler yeah are you gonna have more yeah 100 yeah working on it right now yep 100 shooting live ones trying man trying it's fucking yeah yeah no this thing's working, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:06 You got a fucking tail. A tail. Yeah, they say take zinc. Take zinc and magnesium. Now I'm taking all these weird pills. Yeah. Get that. To get the loads. Get that cum going.
Starting point is 01:38:16 You got to save your loads, too. I know. You save your loads until the big day. Yeah, I went to a fertility clinic, and they were all, when's the last time you jacked off? Like, right in front of my girl. Yeah, I'm like, damn, bro. You're like, I don't. Damn. Never. I went to a fertility clinic and they were all, when's the last time you jacked off? Like right in front of my girl. Yeah, I'm like, damn, bro. You're like, I don't.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Damn, dude. Never. I forget. Never. I don't even do it. I don't need to. Look at me, bro. Dude, I had to go give them a sample.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Yeah. Just see how my guys are swimming. Just try to fill the cup. Well, first of all, it wasn't very professional at all. They're like, just go down there. Was your girl with you when you had to give them a sample? Yeah, man. Did she tell to help you? She was like busy talking, just go down there. Was your girl with you when you had to give them a sample? Yeah, man. Did she tell her to help you?
Starting point is 01:38:46 She was like busy talking to the guy in there. She was like talking to the doctor. He's like, he'll just take you to the back. I'm like, alright. What? Yeah. So you had to jerk off knowing your girl's in the other room? Dude, so I walk into this room. It's this Mexican dude just like, hey man, just go in there. Don't touch anything.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Just fill up the thing. Oh my god. And he goes, oh yeah, the porn's on here. It's like an old school TV, VCR, like old school. I'm like, dude, I don't need any of this. I have a fucking cell phone. Like, what the fuck? I've heard of Pornhub, you fucking old dinosaur. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:39:21 And he goes, we have magazines down there. What are you, from the 70s? What kind of bacteria is going to be on those sheets of paper? Get the fuck out of here And he goes We have magazines down there Barf What are you from the 70s? What kind of bacteria Is going to be on those sheets of paper? Marty McFly Oh I know Get the fuck out of here
Starting point is 01:39:30 Other dudes loads and lube I'll take it from here Yeah How sterile I would have been Super shady I would have told my wife You're coming with me
Starting point is 01:39:39 Dude I felt like it was embarrassing too Like I hand him the thing in a bag And he just looks at it Takes it out Look at your loads. Oh, dude. I felt sick. What if he opened it up and smelled it?
Starting point is 01:39:49 Nah, you good, man. Eat a lot of asparagus, bro. And then when you're walking back, just everyone knows that you're coming back. You just get done jacking off. Yeah. You should walk up with your arms up in the air like you scored the winning touchdown. Yes! Yeah!
Starting point is 01:40:02 Enjoy that. Fuck yes! But what happened, this is my thing. This is my my and i went kind of down to eddie bravo conspiracy i'm like what if you're like damn your sperm's not good dude we're gonna need more loads take your sperm take that like he's a big babies big dude we're gonna use his genetics right and they sell that shit black market there's a bunch of little browns running around you know what has happened many times, more than once, is these doctors at fertility clinics swap out other people's cum for their own, and they have a bunch of
Starting point is 01:40:29 their own babies running around. Like, these people have wanted specific genetics and this one red-headed doctor just shooting loads of the cups. And then everybody's like, hey, why does my fucking kid have red hair? What the fuck? Why is he all red-headed and nerdy, man?
Starting point is 01:40:45 One doctor got arrested. I think he fathered like 100 children. Oh, my God. Yeah, something crazy. Crazy person. More awesome. Give it back to the world. I think he's just a crazy person.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Spread his seed. Yeah, he was running a sperm bank or a fertility clinic, one of those, and he just decided, no, it's going to be all me, all my loads out there. Dude, don't you think for like a retirement plan for these athletes? Is this the dude? Yeah. What is that image? That's him.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Oh. Okay, he looks like shit. There's a bunch of these. 52 counts. There's a bunch of these guys. There's not just one. This was 1992. 92?
Starting point is 01:41:22 Yeah. No, I'm talking about like real recent. Dude, he got 280 years in prison oh yeah shit he got prison for that 280 years son 280 years for jerking off who could be sentenced oh dude don't you think if a retired fighter let's say or athlete just in general like kershaw walker someone pay him a million dollars for him to blow a load into a cup did you ever watch the hbo uh expose on becrum from the becrum yoga oh yeah he's fucking here he is indiana fertility doctor uses his own sperm this is 2016 around 50 times papers say wow this is a recent guy i think there's
Starting point is 01:42:01 been a bunch of these guys throughout history i think they should test every one of those guys. They should make sure that they're not doing that. Anybody run into a fertility clinic? I think it's just like you get bored over and over again. Guys are jacking off into cups, and you're like, you know what would make my day exciting? If I take out this load and put it in my load. British man, 600 children. There you go.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Wow. Fathered 600 children at his own fertility clinic. Wow. Repeatedly using his own sperm at his fertility clinic he ran. Hey, go. Wow. Fathered 600 children at own fertility clinic. Wow. Repeatedly using his own sperm fertility clinic he ran. Hey. That's some sketchy shit, man. See? I'm telling you, this is a normal thing. Guys are gross. Guys are gross. Men are gross. Have a woman run that thing. Women who
Starting point is 01:42:38 are anti-men, listen, I swear to God, we're not all like this, but I get it. I get it, too. I really do get it. I talked about it in my special. There's some creeps. Yeah, I mean I talked about it in not all like this, but I get it. I get it, too. I really do get it. I talked about it in my special. There's some creeps. Yeah, I mean, I talked about it in this last special. I was like, I get it. If I was a woman, I'd be a feminist.
Starting point is 01:42:50 I get it. We're fucking gross. But not all of us. Not all of us. I would never jerk off into 600 cups and pretend it was someone else's. That would never even cross my mind. That's not me. But I know that there's guys like that out there.
Starting point is 01:43:04 That does not surprise me in the slightest. But if he's some fucking fat, gross guy with a little tiny dick and some woman with this banging ass and little tiny waist and big old titties comes in and she's
Starting point is 01:43:20 like, you know, we're just trying to get pregnant. We're really struggling. So we decided to go the sperm donor route. Like, yeah, we got a super athlete and he's a genius. Another guy. He's a genius. Doctor uses his own sperm to father 11 kids. Look at this guy.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Old ass. Look at that wig he's wearing. Look how old he is. God dang. He's got a broom on his head. Jesus. That might actually be his real hair. He might just be cut away.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Fuck no. Let me see another image. That's the worst wig I've ever seen. Let me see that. No, that's his hair, man. No, no. Let me see another image. That's the worst wig I've ever seen. Let me see that. No, that's his hair, man. No, I don't think so, bro. Back it up. Back it up.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Back it up. Back it up. Pause. Go full screen. No, you can get wigs like that. I don't think so, dude. That's his hair. You can see his scalp.
Starting point is 01:44:00 You can get wigs like that, dude. Bro, that's his hair. You're crazy. He's just got whack hair. Why would you get a wig and get it all gray and fuckedigs like that, dude. Bro, that's his hair. No. You're crazy. He's just got whack hair. Why would you get a wig and get it all gray and fucked up like that? Because you're 90. At least you're 90. Like, why do you want a wig?
Starting point is 01:44:15 What, do you just want your head to be free? He's trying to fuck bitches, bro. He obviously has a problem. I see dudes with fucked up hair, and I just want to go up to them and go, listen to me, man. There's so much freedom in shaving your head. Let it go. Just look at me. I've never been happier.
Starting point is 01:44:28 Really? Shave your head. It's easy for you. If I had hair, I'd shave it. If I had hair, I'd shave it. No, if you had the set of hair like you did in your 20s, you would not shave it. Bro, come on. 100%.
Starting point is 01:44:38 I would absolutely get a crew cut. I'd get it buzzed down. You'd have it shaved, huh? Little nubs. Yeah. You had some nice hair, man. There's some good pics. Barely.
Starting point is 01:44:46 It's an illusion. My hair was going quick. I've always had thin hair. Fine. It's very fine. They're not thick hairs. But I swear, even if I... I shaved my head.
Starting point is 01:44:58 The first time I shaved my head back when I was fighting. I was like, so stupid. I didn't want anybody to grab my hair. That was my thought. If you shave your head, someone can't grab your hair. So stupid. But I was like uh so stupid i didn't want anybody to grab my hair that was my thought if you shave your head someone can't grab your hair yeah so stupid but i was like 17 or 18 but i remember thinking like god this is so freeing it is nice like yeah you don't think about you just wash and then go there's no nothing but you you got a stylish coif you get a little shade well when i was fighting i didn't when i was fighting i shaved because i remember i was getting ready
Starting point is 01:45:23 for a jujitsu tournament and i was fixing my hair in the mirror, and I was like what the fuck man I was just gonna help that I shaved it the next night That's good move and I did that for my entire career until I retired and like it's time to get my sexy on Whoo I grew this shit out. Whoo. Yeah, I can't be having it You you don't have cauliflower ears and a shaved head like Bravo's not hiring that guy my bro relax So Bravo hired you and uh are you liking it over there i do like it what is that like working for bravo i know i thought you were gonna make fun of me when they when uh so jerry o'connell who's on the show with
Starting point is 01:45:55 me he came he saw one of my sets came in the back and you and brian were back then i was like i'm about to get roasted by rogan and fucking callan you guys are so nice about it why would i make fun of it so i thought it's a good gig. It's a great gig. It's perfect for your personality to make fun of shit. Yeah. Originally, I didn't think it was a good gig.
Starting point is 01:46:10 You know, the guy who does, one of the producers who does Below the Belt on Showtime, Michael Davies at MC Row, I was talking with him. He goes, we're doing this Bravo show with Andy Cohen. And he goes, you watch Bravo? I go, all the time. He goes, no, you don't.
Starting point is 01:46:24 I go, literally all the time. Give me a question, name a show. And he's like, you really do? I go, all the time. He goes, no, you don't. I go, literally all the time. Give me a question. Name a show. And he's like, you really do? He goes, dude, we're putting this show together. You should audition for it. And I was like, I felt weird about it. I talked to my agent.
Starting point is 01:46:33 I'm like, I don't know if that's for me, man. He goes, just audition. See what happens. But then I went in there and did a chemistry test with Jerry O'Connell. And he's hilarious. Oh, Jerry O'Connell. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 01:46:44 He came backstage. Yeah. Yeah. See,. Oh, Jerry O'Connell. Yeah. That's right. He came backstage. Yeah. Yeah. See, I didn't put the two together. Yeah. I didn't realize that he was backstage cause he was doing that thing. Yeah. Jerry's a very nice guy.
Starting point is 01:46:51 He's nice and he's funny as hell. And I thought, all right, this won't be too bad. Like I know my real housewives, but I was like, how many of those shows do you watch? I watched real housewives, Orange County, married in Medicine, Atlanta, New York, Below Deck. My wife, she's been DVR and keeping up with the Kardashians. Oh, yeah. And it was on the, you know how when you turn on the TV, it's already recording, so it's playing? So I sat there, and as the show was on, my jaw got more and more slack, like this.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Yeah, it does. It's pretty crazy. My eyelids got heavy and I just got... All of a sudden you had a fake ass. It droned me in. It made me dumber and dumber. It had to get you in. My brain started drying out.
Starting point is 01:47:37 I changed it quickly. No, I gotta run. I had to put on Neil deGrasse Tyson's shirt. I gotta run. Quick. Put on Cosmos. I think I like it for me because fighting, what I do when I cover fighting, when I was fighting, it's so serious, man.
Starting point is 01:47:50 That's how I got into that stuff. I was like, dude, I just got done sparring Shane Carlin. Let me go home and eat a bag of Twizzlers and watch Real Housewives of Orange County. Watch some silliness. And then it freaking, here we are. Sometimes it's fun when those bitches go off on each other. They're so mean. And you know, the thing is like when you when you get them on camera, and then they know they're
Starting point is 01:48:08 on camera, so they try to be extra mean on camera. Oh, dude. Yeah, they know exactly what they're doing. Hey, I'm just keeping it real. I'm just being real, bitch. You're being real. You're being real cunty. I know.
Starting point is 01:48:19 It's cool seeing Jerry O'Connor, who's been in the industry forever, but then Andy Cohen, who's a producer on it, and then we had Kelly Rip on the show. It's just around these entertainment monsters. I like to see the way they work. And they're there for a reason. You see Kelly Rip and how fast she is and how professional she is. She's a monster. Or Andy Cohen, who puts all this together.
Starting point is 01:48:38 He's a monster. Is she still doing that show with Michael Strahan? She does it now with Ryan Seacrest. The same show? Same show. It's called Kelly and Ryan. So Strahan retired? He went to Good Morning America. Oh, okay. And there was a little bit of beef. I don't know exactly what happened.
Starting point is 01:48:55 With her and him? Yeah. She was like, I can't believe you're leaving. And there's some weird beef, I guess. What if he gave her the beef? I don't think so. He might have, though. I bet he has a big fella. Yeah, big old fella. Great football player, too.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Seems like a real friendly guy. A little too friendly-ass, maybe. A little too good on the mic. Very charismatic. Dude, he's amazing. And made no attempt to fix that gap in his teeth. Zero. Kind of like that.
Starting point is 01:49:24 Me, too. I saw Matt Runyon one time. He zoomed up it. He's fast as shit. He's a super athlete. So fast. Yeah, he's a super athlete. I mean, still.
Starting point is 01:49:34 You know what's amazing? That a guy that's been playing that much football has knees. Like, how does his knees still work? I agree. It's very strange. What's going on there? I'd like to get an MRI. Maybe he got injected with some freaking stem cells and all that.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Maybe. Some new means. Mm-hmm. Dude, they fixed me the fuck up, man. I still need to do it. I keep saying I'm going to do it. My fucking right shoulder was so jacked, and now it's like I don't have a problem with it at all. There's nothing wrong with it.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Your whole body feels better? Well, they do it intravenously, and when they do it intravenously, it takes care of little things. And it takes care of things over a course of a few months. Like over one and two. And by the way, what I had done here in America is nothing compared to what Dr. Neil Reardon is doing down in Panama. What T.J. Dillashaw went down there. That's why T.J. thanked him when he beat Cody and he won the title or defend the title against Cody. And, uh, that's why Mel Gibson was on
Starting point is 01:50:29 talking, you know, with Neil Reardon. Yeah. Everyone swears by it. Dude, Mel Gibson's dad was 92 on death's door. Couldn't walk. Now he's a hundred and walking around. Goddamn. Yeah. Just they go there every few months, every few months get jolted. But what you do, it's not as good, but it's similar. Yeah, well, they do it in America. It's not as extreme, and they're doing tests on it. They're called exosomes. They used to think it was stem cells that were doing all the regenerative work, but now they think that stem cells are releasing exosomes.
Starting point is 01:51:03 So now they just take exosomes, and they put exosomes with platelet-rich plasma and they inject them directly into injuries. And they're having tremendous results. Tremendous results. Dude, I had a fucking full-length rotator cuff tear. I remember you had a huge problem. It's gone. I need it for my neck.
Starting point is 01:51:21 My rotator cuff tear is gone. It doesn't exist anymore. I got a new MRI. There's no more tear. That's fucking magic. That's some magic shit. Most people would have to have surgery. Yes, I was going to.
Starting point is 01:51:31 I was trying to put it off. That's what I was trying to do. I was like, eventually I'm going to have to have surgery. Now I'm like, I don't need surgery. I just need it for my neck. What's going on with your neck? It got injured during the Travis Brown camp and then in my last fight, which was four years ago, which is a crazy thing about long, four years ago,
Starting point is 01:51:48 when I went to go take down Travis, all his weight, he sprawled and landed on my neck. And if you look at the tape, my neck folds like this with his hips on top of me. I showed this, in my neck. And ever since then, it's been fucking just not great. Did you ever get an MRI? I got one
Starting point is 01:52:03 a while ago and there's one the, what do you call them? One of the things are dead. One of your discs? Yeah, one of my discs is like black. Black? Yeah, I guess one of the discs. There's an issue with one of the discs. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Yeah, I know. Black? Yeah. What's that about? I don't know. They don't know what that means? They did. This was a while ago.
Starting point is 01:52:21 I should do it again. That was right after the fight. I should do it again. After the podcast, we'll talk. Because I'll send you to my doctor. I just sent Kenny Florian down there. Oh was a while ago. I should do it again. That was right after the fight. I should do it again. After the podcast, we'll talk because I'll send you to my doctor. I just sent Kenny Florian down there. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, I could use it.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Yeah, they're doing – well, one of the things they do for discs, they do stem cells as well, but they also do something called Regenikine. That's the thing that Kobe Bryant and Peyton Manning, they were going to Germany to get done, and now they do it in America. They've been doing it in America for quite a while now. That's what fixed my neck. When I had bulging discs in my neck and my hand was going numb, Regenicain fixed me. I need to do something.
Starting point is 01:52:51 I just got to make it a priority. Yeah. I've been so busy, I haven't been able to stop. It's nice, though. Yeah. Look at you out there hustling. Hustling. Little Birdie told me you got a Showtime special coming out.
Starting point is 01:53:01 Got a comedy special coming out in January. Oh, shit. Are you going to film it in January, or it's going to come and film it in january where are you filming it the spreckling theater in san diego oh shit what day big boy arena i think it's on the 27th how many uh shows you're filming two nice that's good i know four is ideal but two we're doing two. Four is ideal, but two is good. Yep, it's that Saturday. It's the 20, or no, that's the 26th. 26th? You in town? I am now.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Yes. Shop special. A-U-B special. Bam, son. Big boy moves. Yeah. All right. Let me write San Diego there.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Okay, location, San Diego. Yeah, big boy moves, man. Do you feel weird about filming something you you feel pumped about that super pumped about it I uh super pumped about super excited about it I know the the product the quality is gonna be great I guess for me it's more of like like I told you you're the first person I told but I uh like I wouldn't go to the comedy store and like be like, oh, what's up dude, doing a comedy,
Starting point is 01:54:06 you know, like I just, I feel weird around other comics because I feel like they're going to judge me like, what the fuck, you're doing a comedy special. I can't listen to them.
Starting point is 01:54:12 It's not that I listen to them, I just don't, I feel like that, like if maybe there's comics who've been doing it for 10 years and they have no big time special, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 01:54:21 I don't want them to hold resentment toward, not that I can deal with any of that, but that's why I don't share it with everyone. Well, I tell comics the difference between you and them is that you have a professional athlete's work ethic. Yeah. And comics have very little work ethic. Yeah. They're lazy as fuck.
Starting point is 01:54:36 That's the number one problem. If you say, what's the number one problem with comics? Jerking off in front of women. Number two, lazy. And I'd say number three, just self-sabotage like a lot of comics i see doing the same material over and over i'm like well that listen me getting a special on showtime doesn't take anything away from you it's good level playing field they they give out a ton just because uh chris delia got a special on netflix doesn't mean they took it away from you. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:05 There's room for everybody. There is. Yeah. Either you're just not funny or you're not putting in the work. I have nothing to do with it. Or, yeah, I mean, guys don't like to edit either. That's another problem. They don't like to chop their things down and boil them and make them better.
Starting point is 01:55:19 You know, they have a bit. They say it a certain way and they like to say it that way forever. Can't do that. No. Comedy is a living thing. It's like a living art form. a bit they say it a certain way and they like to say it that way forever can't do that no comedy is a living thing it's like a living art form it's constantly changing and evolving like i had a friend come to see me and then they came to see me four months they were like dude that fucking bit is totally different i'm like yeah you gotta tweak it yep gotta always be tweaking i think the only way for me to tweak is doing on stage i can write it out different but i only find it on
Starting point is 01:55:43 stage 100 so i have to do those full weekends thursday friday saturday that's where it's at two two two two and just roll yeah i find that even with theaters when i'm doing two theaters a night i get more done than just one like one of the things about these big places you're just doing one show yeah you're better you're really better off like one of the things I'm looking forward to is somewhere around December, I'm going to start booking clubs. I'll do Oxnard. I'll do Levity Live in Oxnard.
Starting point is 01:56:12 I'll do the Comedy Works in Denver. Yeah. I'll do maybe even the Punchline in San Francisco, even smaller. Or Sacramento, you mean. San Francisco, too. Is there a Punchline? Isn't there? I'm doing Punchline in Sacramento in November. That's great, too. That's a great little gig Isn't there? I'm doing a punchline in Sacramento in November.
Starting point is 01:56:25 That's great, too. That's a great little gig. But it's near a lot of cracked out people. I've been there before, man. The parking lot's sketch. I stay far away, drive on in. Yeah, that parking lot's sketch. Yeah, it gets a little sketchy there.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Yeah, Red Van almost got killed walking back to the hotel. Jesus Christ. I don't stay at the normal yeah the parking lot's sketchy but the club's awesome so you start doing yeah that's the that's the deal you do you know you have to have those four set weekends five set weekends where you just you know like you'll have a bit that you come in on thursday and then by the time saturday rolls around that bit's alive it's cracking yep you know but it's also one of the great things about being able to work so much in la like thursday night i did four sets uh tuesday night three sets no i did three at the store and one of the improv jesus yeah i did two main room shows i
Starting point is 01:57:16 had my show in the main room i did skylar stone show in the main room and then i did the or and then before that i did a show at the Improv. I liked Improv. Improv's not bad, man. You know, now that they pushed that fucking piano to the side. Piano out of the way, yeah. Jesus, that piano was stupid. Like, how many people use that fucking piano that you're blocking half the stage? Just Brian Callen.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Does he use it? He'd get on there and act like he's playing the piano. It was hilarious. But not anymore, Brian. They got rid of it. Sorry, Brian. Sorry, B. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:44 I mean, who would use it? Chris Robinson. Yeah, that's it. Sorry, Brian. Sorry, B. Yeah. I mean, who would use it? Chris Robinson? Yeah, that's it. That's it? That's it. Just an old school thing to do? Well, yeah. I think it's like a witty thing to have around.
Starting point is 01:57:56 Like how many people will have a piano in their house actually play the piano? What a dick move. Have a piano in your house? Especially if you have the back part open. Oh, I know. Like you're Mozart or some shit. Like you're going to fucking run a whole town. I wish I could play the piano, I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:58:12 I'd have people over and play it. Would you interrupt the Super Bowl? Press pause? Like we're going to take a moment and I'm going to fucking play this. I will now play a concerto. Everyone put your pizza down. Yeah, we're going to drink white wine And I'm gonna play the piano Just the biggest dick move ever
Starting point is 01:58:27 Do you ever think You get to the point Where you're so pretentious You're willing to go to a musical A musical? Or the opera I'll go to some musicals bro I went to Hamilton
Starting point is 01:58:35 By myself in New York Like a psycho Why'd you do that? And I left early Why'd you do that? I like plays And theater I went to see Annie At at the hollywood bowl was it good no you took your kids yep yeah it wasn't good you don't like that stuff though nope see
Starting point is 01:58:52 i like that stuff i was thinking about all sorts of other things i was going over my act while it was happening i couldn't enjoy it i was so bored i know the story that's part of the problem that's it's like going to see king kong hey guess what king kong dies at the end you fuck spider-man 2 i'm over it yeah i mean yeah we know the story yeah spider-man's gonna live he's gonna become spider-man i mean maybe there's some possible twists and turns if they're gonna redo it but at the end of the day king kong dies true and annie they didn't change a goddamn word were your kids loving it or they were like no they're a little bored too that's a problem yeah but you know it's bullshit. No, they were a little bored, too. See, that's a problem.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Yeah. But you know what's a fun one? Well, this might be too much. How old are your kids? Eight and 10, the little ones. They have Nightmare Before Christmas live there where Danny Elfman comes? Yeah, we've done that. That shit's dope.
Starting point is 01:59:36 That was good because they- I went last year as a grown man. They also play, they have music, but they also play the movie. But they have the actual characters. Yes. Like the lady from Home Alone, the mom. Yes. She's the voice.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Mm-hmm. Danny Elfman. Yeah. Danny Elfman has that big dick energy. Does he? He just rolls up there like, you don't give a fuck. He's got that Scientology energy. Is it Scientology?
Starting point is 01:59:55 Yeah. Oh, man. He's got that Tom Cruise energy. Wow, bro. That weird energy. It does work. Spaceship energy, bro. That's spaceship energy.
Starting point is 02:00:05 It seems to work. Spaceship energy. That's a new one, bro. Doesn't seem to bother them? It does work. Spaceship energy, bro. Spaceship energy. Spaceship energy. That's a new one, bro. Doesn't seem to bother them. That's hilarious. That's a good show, though. But I went to Hamilton. I had no idea. I was there for a night.
Starting point is 02:00:14 I was shooting that Bravo show. I'm all by myself. Went and got a nice, proper meal. Oh, so you did this recently. That's like three weeks ago, dude. So you got a proper meal by yourself? All by myself. Got the prime rib.
Starting point is 02:00:23 Just ordered the prime rib. Very keto. Ate by myself. Expensive little meal. I'm like, whatever. So you got a proper meal by yourself? All by myself. Got the prime rib. Just ordered the prime rib. Very keto. Ate by myself. Expensive little meal. I'm like, whatever. See ya. Went online. Bought a not a cheap ticket to Hamilton. Sat there and was like, oh, this is cool. So you just decided to do this because you're on Bravo. Let me do some other gay things. Nah, man. Just trying to live, bro.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Trying to embrace the New York vibe. Broadway. Live. Everyone's been talking about Hamilton forever. Are they really? Who are you talking to? It's the talk of the town. This is the first time anybody in front of me
Starting point is 02:00:50 has ever talked about it. Literally. Maybe in my circles, bro. I just feel like... It was a big deal, so I get there, right? And I'm like, all right, this will be cool.
Starting point is 02:01:00 And they rap the entire time. And so an hour and a half goes by. I'm like, oh, that was fun. And we go half goes by. I'm like, oh, that was fun. And we go to get up. I'm like, well, that was good. And the guy's like, that's intermission. There's another hour and a half. I went, no fucking way.
Starting point is 02:01:13 So I thought, you know what? Let's not waste money. I don't want to disrespect the talent. Let's just sit down. So I sat down, started to get back up. This fat dude started to sing. I went, you know what? I'm fucking out of here.
Starting point is 02:01:22 And I walked out. And as I'm leaving, the guy working goes, he knew goes shub who leaves early who leaves hamilton early i went i do and just fucking got out it's like dude i can't do it man when i was 18 years old i was dating this girl and she took me to see cats that's an old school one yeah it's not your thing it was a murderous assault on my attention span. They're tough. They're crawling around like I'm a cat. La, la, la, la. It is the worst piece of shit. I couldn't believe how bad it was.
Starting point is 02:01:55 Nick Kroll had a great thing. He goes, can we stop pretending you're in the fucking, it's the Thomas Jefferson day? He goes, what the fuck is this? Why are you guys acting like you're in the middle of a fucking war zone? You're on a fucking stage. I was laughing so hard because that's his background. Cats? No.
Starting point is 02:02:10 He was in a war zone or Hamilton? No, no, Hamilton, all these. Look at this. Look how bad this is. I'm a cat. Dude, she must have been the hottest girl ever to get you to go to this thing. She was hot. I'd put up with some shit, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:25 Well, I mean, she was 18 too. We were both 18, and we were both like, maybe this is what adults do. Let's go do this. Let's pretend to be adults. And then you were bored. Was she bored, or was she all into it? She was just like, sorry.
Starting point is 02:02:37 I thought it was going to be good. My bad. I mean, she had never been before. It was one of those things, you know? You hear, like'll we're going on a date let's go to a musical okay yeah let's go see cats see i'm not i've never been i won't ride it out i won't be like oh let's just get through this even if a movie a movie if it's boring i'm out man i found see ya good for you see you gotta be able to do that gotta just pull
Starting point is 02:02:59 the tree like this sucks otherwise they're torturing you. The worst. Yeah. That's the worst, man. When's the last time you saw a good movie? What's the last good movie you've seen? God, with the kiddo, it's tough to go to the movies. You're going to see Little Feet? You're going to take your kid to see Little Feet this week? Have you seen it? No. I want to see it. I bet it's good.
Starting point is 02:03:16 Hell yeah, LeBron James is in it. That's a lot of people say that's the first sign they knew that he was going to go to the Lakers. For sure. When he started doing movies. He's like, oh, he's doing hollywood he's going hollywood i've been watching a bunch of shows on like netflix like have you seen sinner or jessica biel no that's amazing really good she should have won the goddamn emmy what is that an encore show or something like it was on usa it
Starting point is 02:03:39 was on usa and they brought over to netflix that shit on net, now it's on Netflix? Yeah, it's on Netflix. Straight up? And it is straight up. It's intense. The first episode, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. That's damn good. Mm. I haven't seen a good movie in a long time, man. You watch Ozark? No.
Starting point is 02:03:55 I watched the first one. Couldn't get into it. I know. What? I know. People need to. What? I know.
Starting point is 02:04:00 What? What? I know, bro. What? People love it. They're on season two, right? I'm on season two, episode nine. And you love it? Ooh. Dude, if I get What? I know, bro. What? People love it. They're on season two, right? I'm on season two, episode nine. And you love it?
Starting point is 02:04:07 Ooh. Dude, if I get a show I like, I will just fucking power through that thing. It's a good show, man. I'm telling you. Give it a chance. I'm on it. Yeah, I got to get on it. It keeps getting better, too.
Starting point is 02:04:16 You're the second person who told me now. It's fucking good. What about Strange Times or Stranger Things? Yeah, Stranger Things. Strange Times, yeah. Stranger Things. Have you seen that? Yeah. You've seen that, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's good. Stranger Things. Have you seen that? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:25 You've seen that, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's good. It's amazing. They're doing season three now. This is the best time ever to be a lazy fuck and just sit in front of the TV. There's more content. And it's not like the content's going away.
Starting point is 02:04:36 That's what's really crazy. Dude, I laugh at shows. Like, I'll watch Good Morning America or something in the morning. When commercials hit, I laugh. I'm like, you silly fucks. I'll change channel. What is this? I'm like, what are you doing? I'm just going to go to something else. I'm not dealing with this. It's like AM radio.
Starting point is 02:04:50 I know. It's so old school. Commercials. Yeah. Interrupting them. I get mad when people do commercials in the middle of podcasts. Do you do commercials in the middle of your podcast? No, I do them all up front. That's right. I do them all up front. That's how you do it.
Starting point is 02:05:03 I mean, obviously, I've learned from you. Fuck all that interrupting. I think people get Get them all up front. That's how you do it. I mean, obviously I've learned from you. Fuck all that interrupting. I think people get upset and they'd rather not buy. I think if people were inclined, they're like, you know what, Chob? I'll try the Squarespace shit out because you advertise it in front of your podcast.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Get it fucked up in a row. We've had some that ask for mid-roll, but it's very rare. Everything's up front. everything's up front. Yeah. Everything's up front. It's the way to do it, man. Everything, even with FM radio, like I'd go into certain cities and I just had this conversation
Starting point is 02:05:32 with my agent. I'm like, dude, I'm not doing press anymore. Yeah. I'm not doing press because also it's a different animal for me because these big sport FM radio stations bring me on. Conor McGregor, Khabib, break it down. I'm like, I got my own show, bitch. It's during the show time.
Starting point is 02:05:45 It's during the below the belt, my podcast. Listen to that. Me breaking down Conor Khabib's not selling any comedy tickets. If you want to talk about comedy, you want to talk about just life, I'm down. You want me to break down the fucking Broncos game or Khabib-Conor, it's not happening, man. Well, there's also a problem with if you're lucky, your personality goes well with them. But I've had many during my days of doing the road and doing radio, I've had many times where I just did not vibe with the person who was the DJ. Not at all.
Starting point is 02:06:14 And it became a real issue. Yeah. And then you come off as a dick. Like some things I'd be like, I don't want to talk about that. Like, you don't want to talk about it? No, I don't want to talk about an ex-girlfriend. Do you want to talk about an ex-girlfriend? Like, what are you doing, man?
Starting point is 02:06:24 Yeah. Like, what are you doing? Like like you just try to make things controversial because you're not interesting yeah or or when i make you uncomfortable oh dude or i'll you and dana white what's the deal there i'm like no deal what do you mean what do you want how am i going to make this and sell comedy tickets right how's that going to work dude well it's just they're not that good no there's a reason why they're on radio. There's a lot of people out there doing it that are just not that good at it. There's some who are great. I used to think that when I was doing it.
Starting point is 02:06:49 When I was doing radio, I'd be like, you're just not an interesting person. No. You're like noise in between people that are talking, that are interesting, that you're interviewing, in between music. Yep. And you have a giant ego. Yep. Huge.
Starting point is 02:07:03 They have the biggest egos. Yeah. And also it's so old school to move tickets. It doesn't make sense to me. Well, you know what's more old school and more gross? Those morning TV shows. Good morning
Starting point is 02:07:16 Dallas! Hi! We're here with Brendan Shaw from the UFO. And he's here to talk about knuckle fighting or something. what do you do dude i did one in spoken and it's the last literally i was like oh i'm out there's no more i'm never doing this again there's no more uh here we are with brendan schwab brendan ufc nfl comedy where do you stop real quick how about
Starting point is 02:07:41 the weather and had me read though and i went what they go the rep you want to take the weather from here? I went, I literally, I'm like, you want me to read your weather report? You should stick your butt out like that one Mexican chick with a giant ass. Have you ever seen her? Oh, in the, in the Mexico, dude. Oh, she makes me sweat. I would read her weather.
Starting point is 02:08:01 Is she Mexican or South American? I forget. This is one. She's Mexican. Oh my Jesus. Oh dude, she is. Oh my God. See would read her weather. Is she Mexican or South American? I forget. She's Mexican. Oh, my Jesus. Oh, dude, she is. Oh, my God. See, that's different.
Starting point is 02:08:09 I would do that radio station. You should look at her before you jerk off into a cup. Here she is. Look at her. Oh, my God. Look at her. She's wearing almost nothing. Dude.
Starting point is 02:08:17 Look at the booty. Look at that booty. They can't help but stare at Garcia. What is her name? Mexican? Yanet Garcia. Break the internet. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:08:27 Her body's off the charts. Temperatura. They're doing it fucking right, aren't they? Yeah, that's how you do it. Yeah, I mean, who gives a fuck if she knows anything? Who, you know? Who knows? Who knows?
Starting point is 02:08:40 She got 1.3 million. Probably more than that now. For just having a blowout ass. That is a blowout ass, too. Jesus Christ. Perfect body. Look at her. Look at her in her underwear.
Starting point is 02:08:50 Oh, my God. Dude, she is gorgeous. She's pretty goddamn hot. See? Now, that makes sense. What you should do is go out there and get down to your underwear and stick your ass out. I need to do some shows in Mexico, it sounds like, and do some press. Remember how I said no press? Correct. I'm here to do the Mexican weather. And I'm just here to do some shows in Mexico. It sounds like I can do some press. Remember how I said no press?
Starting point is 02:09:05 Correct. I'm here to do the Mexican weather. And I'm just here to do the weather. Only here to talk about clouds coming in. She just broke up with a pro gamer, Call of Duty gamer. Oh, so she's single, huh? She was dating a nerd? That's amazing.
Starting point is 02:09:20 Rich nerds, though. Nerds are coming up. Rich nerd. Those Call of Duty nerds are coming up. Those video gamers. I just heard about her recently for some reason, and that's what it was. Pro gamers might as well be golfers now, right? Dudes get paid.
Starting point is 02:09:31 Yeah, right? They might as well be golfers in terms of money. Them and YouTubers. Like, just straight YouTubers, a lot of them, stupid money. Paid. Paid, son. And no major network, nothing. Nothing. If you ask freaking Logan Paul, come on, Good Morning America, he's like, suck it. paid paid son and no major network nothing nothing if you say
Starting point is 02:09:46 if you ask freaking Logan Paul come on Good Morning America he's like suck it what the fuck he dumped her to work on Call of Duty
Starting point is 02:09:52 he what he dumped her to work on his Call of Duty let me see this kid she probably wanted too much dick oh he's a handsome fella handsome old Mexican fella
Starting point is 02:10:01 he might have something else in the works blow out booty yeah like other dick. How does he pass up on her? Just let her ride it while you're playing the game. Dude, maybe she's terrible in bed, though. That's not even physically possible.
Starting point is 02:10:15 You know what? You're right. When you're right, you're right. That's like saying there's a bad Porsche to drive. It's just no. They're all great. You can fix it up. There we go.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Whoa! Jesus Christ. That's the two of them together? Yeah. And he broke up with her. Dude! I'm confused. Is he into cock?
Starting point is 02:10:31 There must be something wrong with his brain. Look at him. He's jacked, though. Dude, he's flexing while he's playing. Me too. He's probably nasty on sticks. Look at her, though. Good googly moogly.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Dude, I would give it all up. Look at that. Good Lord. Good Lord. Good Lord. Good Lord, the body on that lady. Damn, he dumped her. He's like, move on, bitch. Listen, man, those guys are coming up.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Breaking news. I'm out. Pro gamers coming up in this world. Dude, apparently. It's a different life. Drop some breaking news on us. Yeah, I just got tired of that one. There's someone out there tired of fucking Beyonce.
Starting point is 02:11:04 You know what I'm saying? That's what I heard. His name's Jay-Z. That's what I heard. Yeah, but people get tired of that one. There's someone out there tired of fucking Beyonce, you know what I'm saying? That's what I heard. His name's Jay-Z. That's what I heard. Yeah, but there's, you know, people get sick of it. People get sick of it.
Starting point is 02:11:09 If you like it, then you should've put a ring on it. Uh-oh! Uh-oh! Uh-oh! Any other fights to talk about?
Starting point is 02:11:17 We done? I think we're done. I think we're done, brother. We covered it all. When is the fucking next fight, companion? Let's figure that out, Jamie. Pull up the schedule.
Starting point is 02:11:23 Let's figure it out, man. I'm on the road damn near every weekend, but let's figure it out. What do we got, Jamie? 27th, the 10th, maybe. Wait a minute. October 27th might be a possibility. Frankie Edgar, Korean Zombie on November 10th. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:11:42 October 27th, Volkan Ozdemir versus Johnson. Right? Click on that. Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith, rather. I was going to say Anthony Johnson. Is that? You said that's the 27th?
Starting point is 02:11:54 Yeah. I'm in Phoenix with your boy Ari and Big J doing a show with Theo and Brian. I'm a bitch. That sounds like better. I know. That sounds like more fun. You should come with us. Wish I could.
Starting point is 02:12:05 Wait a minute. What is the Denver one? The Denver one is Cowboy versus Mike Perry, too. Oh, that's a motherfucking fight. That's November 10th? What are you doing there? Let me see. November 10th.
Starting point is 02:12:16 Oh, I'm in town. I'm in town. That's it. Fight Companion. I'm putting it in right now. Yes. Fight Companion. I'm putting it in my calendar, too.
Starting point is 02:12:25 That's a scary one for Cowboy. That's a fun fight for everybody. Look at this card. Benavidez versus Ray Borgs on that card. Cowboy, Mike Perry. Koreans, Zombie versus Frankie Edgar. First team all dime pieces in Yoder versus Cooper. Oh, look at this.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Raquel Pennington returns against Jermaine Durandamy. She's like, yeah, fuck all that 145-pound title. She said, fuck your title. I'd rather fight on the undercard. What is the dime piece one? Yoder versus Cooper. Now, the UFC pictures aren't flattering, but if you look at their Instagram. Did you see Mackenzie Dern made a
Starting point is 02:13:05 video for Joey Diaz saying she's going to kick his ass after a whole thing. She was joking though? Smelling her ass. Was she joking though? Yes. She's hilarious. Darius on that card too. That's a good card, man. Fight Companion, Denver. Fight Companion, Denver. It's in.
Starting point is 02:13:21 We're locked up. Alright, that's it. Alright. TFATK.com. I'm at Salt Lake City. That is October 10th through the 12th. And after that, I'm in San Francisco. Cobbs. After that, Sacramento.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Woo! Boom. TFATK.com. TFATK.com. Thanks, brother. Thanks, brother. Bye, everybody. Oh, we'll be right back with Rhonda Patrick.

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